text,target "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:25:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB3716F1E for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:24:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:24:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9382jK20076 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:02:45 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030802.g9382jK20076@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: zawodny Subject: Wed. OSXCon Panel Discussion Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:02:45 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000213.html Date: 2002-10-02T10:09:11-08:00 Which was the better UI? Mac OS 9? Mac OS X? Windows? Nobody can agree. Tim O'Reilly didn't like Mac OS 9. He gets OS X. Traditional Mac users are a bit annoyed by OS X. They think it's a...",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Aug 16 11:27:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22DE441A8 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:03:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7FLo8719439 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:50:09 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B688029409A; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (h00045acfa2be.ne.client2.attbi.com [65.96.178.138]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AFF294098 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from louie@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7FLkvf05632; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:46:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: louie set sender to louie@ximian.com using -f Subject: Re: It's a small world From: Luis Villa To: Jesse Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org In-Reply-To: <20020815213504.GO2724@pallas.fsck.com> References: <20020815203806.GM2724@pallas.fsck.com> <1029444667.5235.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20020815213504.GO2724@pallas.fsck.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Message-Id: <1029448015.5235.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 15 Aug 2002 17:46:55 -0400 On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 17:35, Jesse wrote: > Short version: > T-Mobile Broadband is in the process of wiring every starbucks in the area > (T1 backhauled to some ~local POP + 802.11) as part of what I'm told is a > national rollout. The Diesel is close enough to the Elm St starbucks for me > to get reasonable net throughout most of the cafe. > > The rumor is that they'll be announcing that they've got boston covered on > the 21st. I've heard from at least one source that they're actually going > to announce a much wider national rollout at that time. It's not cheap [1], but > for soemone like me who's running a ~virtual corporation, it's well worth it. > > [1] https://accounts.tmobilebroadband.com/net_offers_promos.htm Very nice. Not sure it's worthwhile to pay for that when I'm already paying for cable modem at home, but... still nice to know I have the option. FWIW, slummerville actually has the internet- not just broadband, but actual broadband competition, which I gather is rare. I had ADSL and two cable options when I moved in. Luis http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 24 17:55:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E58B16F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:55:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:55:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8OGQ7C11927 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:26:07 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44E62940C6; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from jamesr.best.vwh.net (jamesr.best.vwh.net [192.220.76.165]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B035829409A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17772 invoked by uid 19621); 24 Sep 2002 16:23:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon) ([64.125.200.18]) (envelope-sender ) by 192.220.76.165 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2002 16:23:01 -0000 Subject: CO2 and climate (was RE: Goodbye Global Warming) From: James Rogers To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Message-Id: <1032885762.24435.78.camel@avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 24 Sep 2002 09:42:42 -0700 On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 13:53, Jim Whitehead wrote: > > You have not explained why the increase in CO2 concentrations is not > contributing to increasing global temperature. There are a number of reasons to think that CO2 is not important to controlling global temperature and that much of the CO2 increase may not be anthropogenic. Some recent research points worth mentioning: Recent high-resolution studies of historical CO2 concentrations and temperatures over hundreds of thousands of years have shown a modest correlation between the two. In a number of cases, CO2 level increases are not in phase with temperature increases and actually trail the increase in temperature by a short time i.e. increases in temperature preceded increases in CO2 concentrations. The more studies that are done of the geological record, the more it seems that CO2 concentrations are correlated with temperature increases, but are not significantly causative. There is a lot of evidence that CO2 levels are regulated in a fairly stable fashion. I don't believe anyone really has an authoritative answer as to exactly how this works yet. With respect to absolute CO2 concentrations, it is also important to point out that our best data to date suggests that they follow a fairly regular cycle with a period of about 100,000 years. At previous cycle peaks, the concentrations were similar to what they are now. If this cycle has any validity (and we only have good data for 4-5 complete cyclical periods, but which look surprisingly regular in shape and time), then we should be almost exactly at a peak right now. As it happens, current CO2 concentrations are within 10% of other previous cyclical concentration peaks for which we have good data. In other words, we may be adding to the CO2 levels, but it looks a lot like we would be building a molehill on top of a mountain in the historical record. At the very least, there is nothing anomalous about current CO2 concentrations. Also, CO2 levels interact with the biosphere in a manner that ultimately affects temperature. Again, the interaction is not entirely predictable, but this is believed to be one of the regulating negative feedback systems mentioned above. Last, as greenhouse gases go, CO2 isn't particularly potent, although it makes up for it in volume in some cases. Gases such as water and methane have a far greater impact as greenhouse gases on a per molecule basis. Water vapor may actually be the key greenhouse gas, something that CO2 only indirectly effects through its interaction with the biosphere. CO2 was an easy mark for early environmentalism, but all the recent studies and data I've seen gives me the impression that it is largely a passenger on the climate ride rather than the driver. I certainly don't think it is a healthy fixation if we're actually interested in understanding warming trends. Cheers, -James Rogers jamesr@best.com",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Aug 21 00:40:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B806743C32 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:40:46 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7KNcPZ30025 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:38:26 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE192940B4; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561BA294099 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17hIYV-00043y-00; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:36:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: To: Digital Bearer Settlement List , fork@spamassassin.taint.org From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: Experts Scale Back Estimates of World Population Growth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:36:15 -0400 The demographic transition, where birthrates are lowered by increased life expectancy, seems to be happening faster than the experts have anticipated. I attribute this apparently precipitous decline in ""sustainable"" development to the twin evils of increasing personal freedom and economic globalization. Somebody oughta pass a law to prevent those things, of course, before it's too late. The People's way of life *must* be preserved in its natural, pre-industrial state, or we'll lose it forever. ;-). Cheers, RAH http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/20/science/earth/20POPU.html?pagewanted=print&position=top The New York Times August 20, 2002 Experts Scale Back Estimates of World Population Growth By BARBARA CROSSETTE Demography has never been an exact science. Ever since social thinkers began trying to predict the pace of population growth a century or two ago, the people being counted have been surprising the experts and confounding projections. Today, it is happening again as stunned demographers watch birthrates plunge in ways they never expected. Only a few years ago, some experts argued that economic development and education for women were necessary precursors for declines in population growth. Today, village women and slum families in some of the poorest countries are beginning to prove them wrong, as fertility rates drop faster than predicted toward the replacement level - 2.1 children for the average mother, one baby to replace each parent, plus a fraction to compensate for unexpected deaths in the overall population. A few decades ago in certain countries like Brazil, Egypt, India and Mexico fertility rates were as high as five or six. As a result, United Nations demographers who once predicted the earth's population would peak at 12 billion over the next century or two are scaling back their estimates. Instead, they cautiously predict, the world's population will peak at 10 billion before 2200, when it may begin declining. Some experts are wary of too much optimism, however. At the Population Council, an independent research organization in New York, Dr. John Bongaarts has studied population declines in various countries over the last half century. He questions the assumption that when fertility declines begin they will continue to go down at the same pace, especially if good family planning services are not widely available. Sharp fertility declines in many industrialized and middle-income countries had already challenged another old belief: that culture and religion would thwart efforts to cut fertility. In Italy, a Roman Catholic country whose big families were the stuff of cinema, family size is shrinking faster than anywhere else in Europe, and the population is aging rapidly as fewer children are born. Islamic Iran has also had great success with family planning. ""Projections aren't terribly accurate over the long haul,"" said Dr. Nicholas Eberstadt, a demography expert at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. ""Demographers have been surprised by just about every big fertility change in the modern period. Demographers didn't anticipate the baby boom. They did not anticipate the subsequent decline in fertility in industrialized Western democracies."" What's next? Demographers can agree generally on a few measurable facts and some trends. The world's population, now 6.2 billion, quadrupled in the 20th century, and changed in drastic ways. In 1900, 86 percent of the world's people lived in rural areas and about 14 percent in urban areas. By 2000, urban communities were home to 47 percent of the population, with 53 percent still in the countryside. Between now and 2030, when the global population is expected to reach about eight billion, almost all the growth will be in cities. But urbanization is not necessarily a bad thing for the environment, said Dr. Joseph Chamie, director of the United Nations' population division. ""Moving to cities frees up the land for forestry, agriculture and many other activities,"" Dr. Chamie said. ""You're getting people concentrated, so you can probably recycle more easily. People change their lifestyles. The Indian moving from the boonies of Uttar Pradesh to the city of Lucknow gets educational opportunities, cultural opportunities, all sorts of political participation. He can be influenced by advertising and public relations campaigns. Immunization will be better, and family planning."" As births fall and lives are extended, the global population is getting older. The over-80 age group is the fastest growing. But not everywhere. For example, the United Nations calculates that life expectancy at birth is being slashed in countries hardest hit by AIDS. In South Africa, the life of a baby born now should be 66 years; AIDS has cut that to 47. In Zimbabwe, the drop has been to 43 years from 69. In Botswana, it is 36 years, down from 70. Another cautionary sign from projections is that where populations are continuing to grow fastest, societies and governments may be least likely to cope with the results, including strains on natural resources - farmland, water, air, forests and animals. Last year, the organization published a report and wall chart, ""Population, Environment and Development,"" plotting and analyzing population changes as its contribution to the debate surrounding the Johannesburg summit meeting. The United Nations estimates that the world's current population, 6.2 billion, is growing at an annual rate slightly over 1.2 percent, producing some 77 million people. Of this growth, 97 percent is taking place in less-developed countries, said Dr. Chamie, whose position at the United Nations makes him chief keeper of the world's statistics. Six nations will dominate this growth, and in this order: India, China, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh and Indonesia. Thus, though fertility is declining unexpectedly in a poor country like India, which has more than a billion people, the actual numbers continue to rise rapidly because the base is so large. India is gaining as many people annually as China, Pakistan and Nigeria combined, the United Nations says. India is projected to have at least 100 million more people than China by 2050, even if China's one-child policy is relaxed. Small families are now the norm for the Chinese, whose standard of living has risen above that of the people of India by many measures. Among industrialized countries, the United States alone has a growth rate comparable to that of developing nations. It now ranks seventh in growth, Dr. Chamie said, but 80 percent of that growth comes from immigration. In Europe, populations are shrinking, even with more immigration. With much of the population bulge predicted in Asia, the East-West Center in Honolulu has just published a report, ""The Future of Population in Asia,"" which finds cause to fear considerable environmental stress in a region where population densities and numbers are often great. Asia, the report notes, already has 56 percent of the world's population living on 31 percent of its arable land, and more than 900 million people exist on less than $1 a day. ""Asia faces the most acute pressure on arable agricultural land of any region in the world,"" the report says, adding that expansion of farmland has been made at the cost of forests. Acute water scarcity, a significant loss of biodiversity and more urban pollution seem inevitable. Twelve of the world's 15 most polluted cities are in Asia. By 2020, the report predicts, Asia will be producing more carbon dioxide emissions than any other region. ""When looking at current and future environmental concerns in Asia,"" the report concludes, ""the number of people to be fed, clothed, housed, transported, educated and employed may not be the only issue, but it is an issue that cannot be ignored."" -- ----------------- R. A. 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Is it nevertheless worth it? > In particular, if this RPM is installed together with (very many) > others, are those %pre, %post etc. skipped and an 'omnipotent' > script called that e.g. updates TeX's file database? > > Tschoe, > Torsten. -- Chris Kloiber _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Fri Sep 13 16:49:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617DC16F03 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:49:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:49:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8DEJGC21884 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:19:16 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2C03F162; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFD13EA28 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8DEIoH01540 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:18:50 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8DEInk01536 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:18:49 -0400 Received: from dimebox.bmc.com (adsl-66-140-152-233.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [66.140.152.233]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8DE29w21593 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:10 -0400 Received: by dimebox.bmc.com (Postfix, from userid 1205) id 1428F38DAB; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:18:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dimebox (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dimebox.bmc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A90338DA2 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:18:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 In-Reply-To: <26040.1031911795@munnari.OZ.AU> References: <23204.1031891193@dimebox> <200209130231.g8D2VO021580@hobbit.linuxworks.com.au.nospam> <26040.1031911795@munnari.OZ.AU> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Elz message dated ""Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:09:55 +0700."" To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Linking message [was: Re: Patch to complete a change...] MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hal DeVore X-Image-Url: http://www.geocities.com/hal_devore_ii/haleye48.gif Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <25618.1031926721@dimebox> X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:18:41 -0500 >>>>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, ""Robert"" == Robert Elz wrote: Robert> That (the way I have it configured, and it sounds as if Robert> the way Tony does too) just does a move (rather than Robert> select as target without moving). Ah. I had forgotten that was settable. Preferences, Folder Display, ""Action when Target Button clicked..."" set to ""Select only"" will change it. I seem to recall that the button that is used as ""Target button"" is configurable but I haven't had enough caffeine to recall where that is. --Hal _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Dec 2 11:23:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E4616F6C for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2230802637 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:03:01 GMT Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339472940D6; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:02:02 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from homer.perfectpresence.com (unknown [209.123.207.194]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188542940A5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-154-230-120.jax.bellsouth.net ([68.154.230.120] helo=regina) by homer.perfectpresence.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18Ifux-0007bX-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:02:39 -0500 From: ""Geege Schuman"" To: ""Joseph S. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com X-Mailing-List: cypherpunks@ssz.com X-Unsubscription-Info: http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr X-List-Admin: list@ssz.com X-Loop: ssz.com X-Acceptable-Languages: English, Russian, German, French, Spanish Gooday, With warm heart my friend, I send you my greetings, and I hope this letter meets you in good time. It will be surprising to you to receive this proposal from me since you do not know me personally. However, I am sincerely seeking your confidence in this transaction, which I propose with my free mind and as a person of intergrity. I have kept it to myself for a long time, and now I need to act, as time is not on my side. I want you to open-heartedly read through and give me your most needed support. I got your address from an internet directory, in my search for a contact. 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Mon, 9 Sep 2002 05:04:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 5390 invoked by uid 0); 9 Sep 2002 10:11:56 -0000 Date: 9 Sep 2002 10:11:56 -0000 Message-ID: <1031566316.99762.qmail@ech> To: List Member Reply-To: FIAZ-feedback-4@lb.bcentral.com From: ""Aleksandar Gligoric"" Subject: SPS se odrekao Slobodana Milosevica MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lerami.lerctr.org id g89A4HE9013144 X-Status: X-Keywords: Socijalisticka partija Srbije, predvodjena grupom starih socijalista na celu sa Milomirem Minicem, konacno se odrekla politike i herojskog drzanja predsednika te stranke Slobodana Milosevica, saopstenjima, da jedan ,,slabo obavesten covek ne moze, pogotovu ne iz zatvorske celije upravljati tako velikom partijom kao sto je Socijalisticka partija Srbije, pa zvao se on i Slobodan Milosevic''. Socijalisti koji za sebe danas kazu da vise nisu idolopoklonici Slobodana Milosevica, neprestano, u kontaktima sa clanovima i simpatizerima te partije, pokusavaju da razdvoje odbranu Slobodana Milosevica u Hagu, od politickog zivota u Srbiji, pripisujuci Milosevicevim braniocima iz nacionalnog komiteta za oslobadjanje S. Milosevica, ,,Sloboda'' da im je cilj da uniste Socijalisticku partiju Srbije. Iako je zbog istih takvih gledista, svojevremeno najpolularniji socijalista, posle predsednika te stranke, prof. Branislav Ivkovic bio iskljucen iz redova SPS, danas rukovodstvo SPS koristi jos teze i grublje kvalifikacije na racun njihovog predsednika, pritom ne strahujuci da bi bilo ko od njih mogao biti iskljucen iz partije. Ne retko se poslednjih dana, u rokovodstvu partije cuje da partija nije Slobodan Milosevic, i da on ne predstvalja tu partiju, vec da su partija Rukovodstvo i Glavni odbor te stranke. Medjutim u clanstvu i medju simpatizerima te stranke, stvari se ne odijaju bas po planovima rukovodstva. Procene idu dotle da se na septembarskim izborima ocekuje da Bata Zivojinovic osvoji tek 1% glasova. Clanovi partije, najveci deo njih i danas veruje svom heroju, Slobodanu Milosevicu. Po clanstvu partije, ovih dana u rukovodstvu partije, oni koji su predsednika te stranke pogresno informisali poslednjih godina, kada su shvatili da im je ,,odzvonilo'' pokusavaju da sacuvaju sebe eliminacijom predsednika Slobodana Milosevica. Mladi socijalisti, kojih i nema bas mnogo, kako se SPS svojevremeno hvalio, izgleda su na strani predsednika te stranke. Tako se u nastupima na opstinskim odborima, mogu cuti uverljivi govori Dejana Stjepanovica i Igora Raicevica, i po neki Milinka Isakovica iz redova mladih socijalista, clanova organizaciono politickog odbora predsednika SPS. Obracanja ovih mladih ljudi, medju clanstvom partije imaju do deset puta vecu tezuni, nego li obracanja profesionalnih politicara koji za sobom vuku teret proslosti. Stav rukovodstva mladih socijalista, se razlikuje od stava saveta mladih, koji su takodje na strani predsednika. Branko Ruzic i Dejan Backovic, svojevremeno najveci branioci i zastupnici lika i dela Slobodana Milosevica, danas su se pretvorili u njegove najvece kriticare. Pokusavaju na sve moguce nacine da minorizuju grupu mladih koja ga podrzava. Cak se poslednjih dana cuje, da je najbolji recept da se rukovodstvo mladih odrzi ikao je protiv Sloba, da se povezu rodbinskim vezama, pa se tako predsednik mladih socijalista Beograda, Ana Djurovic udala za Branka Ruzica, predsednika Mladih socijalista Srbije, koji je za kuma uzeo Dejna Backovia, svog potpredsednika. Backovic se ovih dana zeni, jednom mladom socijalistkinjom koja je clan saveta mladih, a u isto vreme i sestra jednog od clanova IO GO SPS-a, za kuma uzima jos jednog mladog socijalistu iz Saveta mladih. Sve u svemu, mladi u SPS se drze kao italijanske mafijaske porodice 60-tih u SAD. Sta ce se do kraja price dogoditi ostaje pitanje, no clanstvo i simpatizeri ce oceniti rad svog rukovodstva na predsednickim izborima. Pimato se samo, sta ce da rade, ako im Bata prodje losije od Seselja koga je predsednik Slobodan Milosevic podrzao za predsednickog kandidat? _______________________________________________________________________ Powered by List Builder To unsubscribe follow the link: http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/sp?c=15279&s=90B245569C3B981A&m=4",1 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Oct 7 12:06:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B662216F6B for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:04:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:04:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (postfix@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g978PQK24187 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:25:26 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF86F341D0; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:26:09 +0100 (IST) Delivered-To: linux.ie-ilug@localhost Received: from smtpstore.strencom.net (ns1.strencom.net [217.75.0.66]) by lugh.tuatha.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C80C340D5 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:25:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from enterprise.wasptech.com (mail.wasptech.com [217.75.2.106]) by smtpstore.strencom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8011CEF2D for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:35:44 +0000 (AZOST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Subject: RE: [ILUG] Drop in replacement for Ingres Database? X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Message-Id: <45130FBE2F203649A4BABDB848A9C9D0032D4D@enterprise.wasptech.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Tnef-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ILUG] Drop in replacement for Ingres Database? Thread-Index: AcJr4AXtAf+q9LoESn2UoGgwDFTbZQB+OAjQ From: ""Fergal Moran"" To: ""ILUG"" Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:18:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:18:21 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dogma.slashnull.org id g978PQK24187 > From: Paul Linehan [mailto:plinehan@yahoo.com] > > There are two open alternatives that I can think of > that don't appear to have been mentioned > elsewhere in this thread. > > > One is Firebird (this is my personal favourite). > It is http://FirebirdSQL.org and you can > purchase support contracts here > www.ibphoenix.com. Indeedy - I had never even heard of firebird until we started a new job last week with a client who uses it. So we popped it onto a box downstairs and wow - it is fast. Comes with some lovely client tools also. Supports all the db goodies, transactions, stored procedures, triggers. > It's really amazing to think how much they've got > out of a db that is only 4 MB in size - that's 10 > times smaller than the Oracle *_client_*. > > > Having said all of the above, Oracle is really > a super product, but ya pays ya money... > IBM's db2 is another cheaper alternative to Oracle. Free single developer license downloadable from their website. Fergal. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Oct 3 12:55:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C173C16F1A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:53:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:53:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92MXEK32150 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:33:15 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052ED29416D; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F429409C for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id 03F8B3EDCD; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025D63ED4E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:37:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Apple Sauced...again Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Over on Arstechnica (www.arstechnica.com) I saw mention of a Wired article that goes into the many wonderfull ways Apple is showing its love and respect for its users. http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,55395,00.html There is a good rundown of all the whys and whatfores over at http://arstechnica.com/reviews/02q3/macosx-10.2/macosx-10.2-5.html ""True to form, industrious third party developers saw that they could gain a competitive advantage by supporting this more capable user interface in their applications. Apple's private menu extras APIs were reverse engineered and leveraged to great effect. The architecture was so popular that an application for managing predefined sets of menu extras (third party or otherwise) was in development. All of that changed with the release of Jaguar--but not because the private APIs had changed. If they had, third party developers would have updated their applications to work with the new APIs, as they have resigned themselves to doing by choosing to use private APIs in the first place. But what actually happened in Jaguar was that Apple added code to forcibly exclude all non-Apple menu extras. Other parts of the API did not change. But when a menu extra is loaded, it is compared to a hard-coded list of ""known"" menu extras from Apple. If the menu extra is not on that list, it is not allowed to load. It's easy to laugh at Steve Ballmer's sweat-soaked gyrations as he chants ""developers, developers, developers!"", but Microsoft clearly understands something that Apple is still struggling with. It is in a platform vendor's best interest to encourage development for its platform. In Apple's case, this doesn't mean that they have to bend over backwards to make every single system service and UI element ""pluggable"" via public APIs. That's clearly a lot of work, and not something that needs to be the number one priority for an OS in its infancy. And in the meantime, if third party developers want to sell into a market that requires the desired functionality to be added in ""unsupported"" ways, then they must be prepared for the maintenance consequences of their decisions. But for Apple to go out of its way--to actually expend developer effort--to stop these third party developers, while still failing to provide a supported alternative, is incredibly foolish. """,0 "Return-Path: tim.one@comcast.net Delivery-Date: Sat Sep 7 20:45:18 2002 From: tim.one@comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:45:18 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] understanding high false negative rate In-Reply-To: <15738.13529.407748.635725@slothrop.zope.com> Message-ID: > TP> I'm reading this now as that you trained on about 220 spam and > TP> about 220 ham. That's less than 10% of the sizes of the > TP> training sets I've been using. Please try an experiment: train > TP> on 550 of each, and test once against the other 550 of each. [Jeremy] > This helps a lot! Possibly. I checked in a change to classifier.py overnight (getting rid of MINCOUNT) that gave a major improvement in the f-n rate too, independent of tokenization. > Here are results with the stock tokenizer: Unsure what ""stock tokenizer"" means to you. For example, it might mean tokenizer.tokenize, or mboxtest.MyTokenizer.tokenize. > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 8> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 0.000 10.413 > 1.398 6.104 > 1.398 5.027 > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 0> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 0.000 8.259 > 1.242 2.873 > 1.242 5.745 > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 3> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 1.398 5.206 > 1.398 4.488 > 0.000 9.336 > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 0> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 1.553 5.206 > 1.553 5.027 > 0.000 9.874 > total false pos 139 5.39596273292 > total false neg 970 43.5368043088 Note that those rates remain much higher than I got using just 220 of ham and 220 of spam. That remains A Mystery. > And results from the tokenizer that looks at all headers except Date, > Received, and X-From_: Unsure what that means too. For example, ""looks at"" might mean you enabled Anthony's count-them gimmick, and/or that you're tokenizing them yourself, and/or ...? > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 8> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 0.000 7.540 > 0.932 4.847 > 0.932 3.232 > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 0> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 0.000 7.181 > 0.621 2.873 > 0.621 4.847 > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 3> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 1.087 4.129 > 1.087 3.052 > 0.000 6.822 > Training on & /home/jeremy/Mail/spam 0> > ... 644 hams & 557 spams > 0.776 3.411 > 0.776 3.411 > 0.000 6.463 > total false pos 97 3.76552795031 > total false neg 738 33.1238779174 > > Is it safe to conclude that avoiding any cleverness with headers is a > good thing? Since I don't know what you did, exactly, I can't guess. What you seemed to show is that you did *something* clever with headers and that doing so helped (the ""after"" numbers are better than the ""before"" numbers, right?). Assuming that what you did was override what's now tokenizer.Tokenizer.tokenize_headers with some other routine, and didn't call the base Tokenizer.tokenize_headers at all, then you're missing carefully tested treatment of just a few header fields, but adding many dozens of other header fields. There's no question that adding more header fields should help; tokenizer.Tokenizer.tokenize_headers doesn't do so only because my testing corpora are such that I can't add more headers without getting major benefits for bogus reasons. Apart from all that, you said you're skipping Received. By several accounts, that may be the most valuable of all the header fields. I'm (meaning tokenizer.Tokenizer.tokenize_headers) skipping them too for the reason explained above. Offline a week or two ago, Neil Schemenauer reported good results from this scheme: ip_re = re.compile(r'(\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3})') for header in msg.get_all(""received"", ()): for ip in ip_re.findall(header): parts = ip.split(""."") for n in range(1, 5): yield 'received:' + '.'.join(parts[:n]) This makes a lot of sense to me; I just checked it in, but left it disabled for now.",0 "From IA@rogers.com Mon Aug 26 15:15:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF10044155 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:13:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from rogers.com ([211.248.58.1]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA23062 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:02:40 +0100 From: IA@rogers.com Reply-To: Message-ID: <016d65d07e1e$5137c3e6$0ad50ab6@amvwkp> To: Internet.Access@webnote.net Subject: Market Internet Access - No Investment Needed Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 05:48:48 -1000 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Market Internet Access No Investment Needed Premium Internet Access for only $14.95 per month or less! 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References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020730001727.0498be60@techdirt.com> From: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Home-Page: http://www.teledyn.com Organization: TCI Business Innovation through Open Source Computing Message-Id: Reply-To: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Url: http://www.teledyn.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 31 Jul 2002 01:04:14 -0400 What confuses me is, because these ""scam"" artists are laying out all the contact information right out on the table, why don't the police simply pose as recipients of the scam email and trap them? I mean, I get no less than a half dozen a day and they should be real easy to corner. The only answer must be that the authorities in the countries in question must be in on the scam, but isn't international fraud (and kidnapping and murder if the reports I've seen on the media are true) isn't this an Interpol thing? I mean, the perpetrators are not exactly hiding, are they? What I really don't understand is why I keep getting more of these. Don't they know by now that I already made my millions on the first one? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com ""Computers are useless. 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Something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word Thanks Justin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From webdev-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 20 18:52:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CC943C34 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:52:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7KHrrZ18007 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:53:53 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16734; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:53:50 +0100 Received: from mail.go2.ie ([62.17.153.101]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16693 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:53:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [62.17.153.101] claimed to be mail.go2.ie Received: from k100-50.bas1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net (k100-50.bas1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.100.50]) by mail.go2.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973DA1105 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:53:12 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: [Webdev] PHP+Javascript request From: Nick Murtagh To: webdev@linux.ie In-Reply-To: <3D612ACA.4050100@heanet.ie> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020819181835.00ac0eb8@holly.csn.ul.ie> <3D612ACA.4050100@heanet.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-2mdk Date: 20 Aug 2002 18:49:35 +0100 Message-Id: <1029865776.2182.6.camel@gemini.windmill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: webdev-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: webdev-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-Beenthere: webdev@linux.ie On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 18:28, Dave Wilson wrote: > IIRC, if the query string contains > > varname=FIRST&varname=SECOND > > then PHP will create a variable called ""varname"" with result SECOND. > However, if the query string contains > > varname[]=FIRST&varname[]=SECOND > > then PHP will create an array with varname[1]==FIRST and varname[2]==SECOND By far the coolest solution to this would be to ""fix"" php :) Take a look at main/php_variables.c in the php source distribution. You could mess around with the variable is_array in php_register_variable_ex() and see if you can force all variables to be arrays :) As far as I can tell the reason they do this is to save time by not having to work out which variables have multiple values. Nick _______________________________________________ Webdev mailing list Webdev@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/webdev",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Oct 3 12:54:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7DE16F03 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:53:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:53:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92KRGK27278 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:27:16 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C04294179; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC2129409C for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17wq58-0000da-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 16:26:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: To: Digital Bearer Settlement List , fork@spamassassin.taint.org From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: Re: Optical analog computing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:25:26 -0400 --- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 03:21:05 +1000 To: ""John S. Denker"" From: Greg Rose Subject: Re: Optical analog computing? Cc: ""R. A. Hettinga"" , Digital Bearer Settlement List , cryptography@wasabisystems.com At 01:30 AM 10/2/2002 -0400, John S. Denker wrote: >""R. A. Hettinga"" wrote: >... > > ""the first computer to crack enigma was optical"" >1) Bletchley Park used optical sensors, which were (and >still are) the best way to read paper tape at high speed. >You can read about it in the standard accounts, e.g. > http://www.picotech.com/applications/colossus.html But Colossus was not for Enigma. The bombes used for Enigma were electro-mechanical. I'm not aware of any application of optical techniques to Enigma, unless they were done in the US and are still classified. And clearly, the first bulk breaks of Enigma were done by the bombes, so I guess it depends whether you count bombes as computers or not, whether this statement has any credibility at all. Greg. Williams/Zenon 2004 campaign page: http://www.ben4prez.org Greg Rose INTERNET: ggr@qualcomm.com Qualcomm Australia VOICE: +61-2-9817 4188 FAX: +61-2-9817 5199 Level 3, 230 Victoria Road, http://people.qualcomm.com/ggr/ Gladesville NSW 2111 232B EC8F 44C6 C853 D68F E107 E6BF CD2F 1081 A37C --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ""... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience."" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 29 11:08:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21D244160 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:06:02 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7T0n0Z21570 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:49:01 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kDSh-0002yw-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:47:03 -0700 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com ([204.127.202.61]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kDRu-0001sK-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:46:14 -0700 Received: from localhost ([12.229.66.144]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020829004607.SVKQ11061.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@localhost> for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:46:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Brian McNett To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:45:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:45:49 -0700 On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 04:38 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Just a few notes: > > - It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone > in various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a > good example) even if they do officially ""respect"" copyright law. A lot of spam which *appears* to originate from China, and even a lot which advertises websites hosted there, is sent by, and is done for the benefit of, companies based in the US. The spam often appears to originate there because it's coming from open http, or squid proxy servers. It's hosted there because these spammers are now persona-non-grata on all US ISPs. One hardly needs to involve the Chinese government in a case where a US citizen is violating US law. > - Law suits take time. Between now and conclusion of the first court > case, we could have years of spam in our mail boxes! The first court cases were actually concluded years ago. These include many legal precedents which are used to protect the rights of ISPs to block mail, and to terminate service to spammers. > - Contact information can change: phone numbers, PO boxes, stolen > cell phones, temporary email addresses, etc. Surprising then, how much information you can find on the current whereabouts of long-time spammers like Alan Ralksy of Detroit, Michigan. Ralsky is a guy who even gives interviews to the news media. If you can connect a specific corpus of spam to him, his street address is well known. Ralsky is a prime candidate for lawsuits in any state with an anti-spam law. Thomas Cowles is another long-time spammer, but last I heard he'd been jailed for stealing computer equipment from his business partner, Eddy Marin (also a long time spammer (You've heard of PopLaunch, right?) > - Spammers do not always remember to include contact information! I > don't understand it either, but nobody said they were bright. Also, > some spam is non-commercial or sent by a third-party (for example, > ""pump and dump"" stock scams), so contact information is not strictly > required for the spammer to get their way. Back when I was working at MAPS, there was a flap over a pump-and-dump spammer, Rodona Garst. Seems she had an open file-share on her laptop, and when she forged the wrong domain, the real owner hacked in and posted all her private information on a website. Oh, look, it's still there, including the nude photos: http://belps.freewebsites.com/ I recall this well, because the SEC was VERY interested in confirming the validity of the information found online. There were some ""interesting"" conversations. This summer, the SEC released the following: http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/33-8113.htm Yes, the investigation took two years, but the financial penalty for operating a pump-and-dump scam isn't small. 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""Duncan"" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ beberg@mithral.com",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Thu Aug 29 10:58:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033143F99 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:58:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7SM9oZ12169 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:09:50 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7SM81J23338; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:08:01 +0200 Received: from unknown (80-24-132-206.uc.nombres.ttd.es [80.24.132.206]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7SM6XJ23146 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:06:33 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: ALSA (almost) made easy Message-Id: <20020829000606.5906404a.matthias@egwn.net> In-Reply-To: <1030568564.10902.22.camel@bobcat.ods.org> References: <20020828004215.4bca2588.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1030507320.3214.39.camel@herald.dragonsdawn.net> <20020828100430.378c3856.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1030546780.3214.54.camel@herald.dragonsdawn.net> <20020828112645.B13047@ti19> <1030551945.10627.4.camel@wanderlust.prognet.com> <20020828190006.2200a154.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1030567737.10901.9.camel@bobcat.ods.org> <1030568564.10902.22.camel@bobcat.ods.org> Organization: Electronic Group Interactive X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) Reply-BY: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 19:02:00 +1000 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux power! X-Message-Flag: Try using a real operating system : GNU/Linux power! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:06:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:06:06 +0200 Once upon a time, Ville wrote : > > Thanks a *lot* ! The RPMs seem to be fine, they worked for me out of > > the box (on vanilla Valhalla w/latest errata). > > ...except that I don't see an init script in the RPMs, a sample one > designed for RH is supposed to be in ""utils/alsasound"". Could you take > a look if it can be included? It doesn't need to as Red Hat Linux already sets correct permissions on all ALSA audio devices for locally logged in users (through the console.perms file) and the modules.conf files takes care of loading the right modules on demand. Also, aumix and the scripts that come with Red Hat Linux still work for controlling the volume, so it's still saved and restored when the computer is halted, even using ALSA. I'm glad you got your card working with these! I'm now wondering if I won't maybe buy an amplifier that supports Dolby Digial decoding (my current one ""only"" does PRo Logic) since I've read that ALSA supports the S/PDIF optical output of the sound chip of my Shuttle! (http://freshrpms.net/shuttle/) >>From what I can tell after only 2 days using it : ALSA rocks, especially since having a full OSS compatibility results that it breaks nothing at all! :-) Matthias -- Matthias Saou World Trade Center ------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta System and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain Electronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23 _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Oct 7 18:41:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687B916F16 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:41:20 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:41:20 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net ([193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g97HbUK10039 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:37:30 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g97HU3f14660; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:30:03 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g97HStf13170 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:28:55 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: RH 8 no DMA for DVD drive Message-Id: <20021007192851.11d250b8.matthias@rpmforge.net> In-Reply-To: <1034011232.8419.65.camel@bobcat.ods.org> References: <1033953429.13890.4.camel@AMD1800> <1033954359.28832.4.camel@athlon.ckloiber.com> <1033964717.1263.8.camel@AMD1800> <20021007085643.5b9bb88c.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1034007312.2296.8.camel@bobcat.ods.org> <20021007183629.40ab9860.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1034011232.8419.65.camel@bobcat.ods.org> Organization: freshrpms.net / rpmforge.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) X-Operating-System: Red Hat GNU/Linux forever! X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux... use Linux... use Linux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:28:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:28:51 +0200 Once upon a time, Ville wrote : > I assume that you won't %ghost or remove these and the modules.conf > change on uninstall, though. So people who are installing this RPM and > are unfortunate enough to have a DVD drive (or just an ordinary CD, > non-DVD drive) that doesn't support DMA will be left with a system > without a working CD drive, even after removing the RPM. And without > ever knowing what struck them. You can't remove the DMA setting from > modules.conf either unless you're sure that ogle added it there and > nothing else needs it. I've never heard of any CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive having problems with DMA... although there probably is since Red Hat decided to default disabling it a few releases back :-/ Normally, even if you try to enable DMA and your device doesn't support it, it simply don't be able to make the change, and that's it. The problem IIRC is with crappy hardware that is supposed to support DMA but doesn't work as expected when it's enabled... maybe Chris could confirm this? ;-) I guess I'll settle for the /dev/dvd link change as described and putting the DMA tip in the %description :-) Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi Load : 0.00 0.05 0.14 _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From info@internationalfreecall.com Mon Jun 24 17:44:03 2002 Return-Path: dmeizys@host11.websitesource.com Delivery-Date: Fri Mar 29 05:36:51 2002 Received: from host11.websitesource.com (host11.websitesource.com [209.239.38.72]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2T5aoA09701 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 05:36:50 GMT Received: (from dmeizys@localhost) by host11.websitesource.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id g2T5anS15641; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:36:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200203290536.g2T5anS15641@host11.websitesource.com> To: users@spamassassin.taint.org From: Free Phone Calls! 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Replying will re-subscribe you to our marketing tips newsletter. info@newslist.net",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Aug 1 20:15:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF0440F0 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:15:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71J9U227061 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:09:32 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64815294164; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212AA294163 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (A17-129-100-225.apple.com [17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g71J6ik24988 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:06:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (to0202a-dhcp108.apple.com [17.212.22.236]) by scv3.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g71J6iT02065; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Pics and thanks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Cc: CDale , fork@spamassassin.taint.org To: Tom From: Bill Humphries In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:06:45 -0700 On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:59 AM, Tom wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, CDale wrote: > > --]Leave it to Tom to put the one w/ his son's wanker in the center. > > Heck, why hide perfection:)- No bias here, nope none whatsoever. That reminds me of a Robin William's routine from the 80's concerning his witnessing of the birth of his son (back in the day, the presence of dad on the OB floor was still, well, rather Marin-ish). ""It's a boy, and he's hung like a bear!"" ""That's the umbilical cord, Mr. Williams."" -- whump http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 9 15:00:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD866440D9 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:59:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79Dx1b03691 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:59:01 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11513; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:55:28 +0100 Received: from mail.tradesignals.com ([217.75.2.27]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11484 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:55:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [217.75.2.27] claimed to be mail.tradesignals.com Received: from docaoimh.tradesignals.com (docaoimh.tradesignals.com [192.168.1.26]) by mail.tradesignals.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79Dt9T25483; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:55:09 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by docaoimh.tradesignals.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g79Dt9i07708; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:55:09 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: Donncha O Caoimh To: kevin lyda , irish linux users group Subject: Re: [ILUG] galeon and keyboard focus... Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:55:09 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20020809142147.B3331@ie.suberic.net> In-Reply-To: <20020809142147.B3331@ie.suberic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200208091455.09808.donncha.ocaoimh@tradesignals.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugh.tuatha.org id OAA11484 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie I get a different effect. I open new links in a tab, and they ""open in the background"" or the current page still remains selected. Unfortunately the other tab gets the focus. The same happens with pages (re)loading in other tabs -> the current tab loses the keyboard focus which can be very annoying when filling in forms or even when scrolling using the mouse-wheel. Donncha. On Friday 09 August 2002 14:21, kevin lyda wrote: > ok, in a galeon browser window i open a new window by middle-clicking > a link. the window comes up under my mouse. however, keys i type go to > the first window. anyone else have this problem, and did they solve it? > i use sawfish as my wm with sloppy focus. > > kevin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From msquadrat.nospamplease@gmx.net Mon Jul 22 18:22:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E843440C8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:22:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFhbI08581 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:43:37 +0100 Received: from mailc0911.dte2k.de (mail.t-intra.de [62.156.147.75]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30702 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:28:49 +0100 Received: from mailc0909.dte2k.de ([10.50.185.9]) by mailc0911.dte2k.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:27:21 +0200 Received: from nebukadnezar.msquadrat.de ([62.226.214.7]) by mailc0909.dte2k.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:27:21 +0200 Received: from otherland (otherland.msquadrat.de [10.10.10.10]) by nebukadnezar.msquadrat.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386)) with ESMTP id E8034413E; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:28:07 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: ""Malte S. Stretz"" To: SpamAssassin Talk ML Subject: Re: [SAtalk] http://www.spamassassin.org Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:30:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: In-Reply-To: Cc: Justin Mason X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200207220930.41698@malte.stretz.eu.org> X-Originalarrivaltime: 22 Jul 2002 07:27:21.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[378D14E0:01C23151] On Monday 22 July 2002 07:00 CET John Rudd wrote: > On Sunday, July 21, 2002, at 08:30 , Bob Proulx wrote: > > > http://www.spamassassin.org > > > Is anyone besides me having problems getting to the site? Jepp. The same is true for Justin's private page jmason.org. traceroutes to both these servers die at the same point: | mss@otherland:~> /usr/sbin/traceroute spamassassin.org | traceroute to spamassassin.org (212.17.35.15), 30 hops max, 40 byte | packets | 1 nebukadnezar.msquadrat.de (10.10.1.111) 9 ms 1 ms 1 ms | 2 212.185.255.161 (212.185.255.161) 54 ms 54 ms 55 ms | 3 212.185.255.162 (212.185.255.162) 55 ms 54 ms 55 ms | 4 F-gw13.F.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.18.46) 63 ms 62 ms 62 ms | 5 rt007ffm.de.vianw.net (194.231.40.201) 63 ms 62 ms 61 ms | 6 r1ffm.vianw.net (213.2.254.45) 62 ms 63 ms 62 ms | 7 r2ffm.vianw.net (213.2.254.42) 63 ms 63 ms 63 ms | 8 There're probably some problems with Justin's webserver; I'm shure he's already looking into this as it affects his own website, too :o) > > What site is that one? Isn't this site on sourceforge the official > > home page? > > > > http://spamassassin.sourceforge.net/ spamassassin.sf.net is the US mirror, also accessible through us.spamassassin.org. > They appear to be the same page, but until recently I could get to the > www. spamassassin.org one, but it hasn't been responsive the last couple > days. For me it worked until yesterday or the day before. > But then, I also haven't been able to get anyone to answer my questions > about user_prefs files (not the one from earlier today, but from a couple > days ago). About this question: No, that's currently not possible. But I was thinking about implementing a feature like this; it might be in the next release. Malte -- -- Coding is art. --",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Sat Sep 7 21:53:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6060316F1F for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:52:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:52:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g875g8C08186 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:42:09 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624FC2940CE; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B0F29409E for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Intellistation ([66.31.2.27]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020907054108.EMT9751.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@Intellistation> for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 05:41:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson Organization: Electric Brain To: FoRK@xent.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) 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Now following the death of my father, the immediate family of the late President Kabila has met and concluded that some savings and security vault of the former President should be moved out of the troubled Democratic Republic of Congo with immediate president of Democratic republic of Congo by the late Kabila has been appointed president of democratic republic of Congo by the late kabila's national executive council and the country top military brass, and properties worth millions of US$ to relocate the late president kabila's assets and properties with millions of dollars to over sea country where there is good political climate. We have concluded arrangement to move/transfer the sum US$42M to a finance and security company in London through a Diplomatic courier services. The family through a diplomatic contact during my father's regime, conclude an arrangement to lodge/deposit the above sums with the GLOBAL DIPLOMATIC AND SECURITY SERVICES in LONDON - U.K! . 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Based on your anticipated efforts and contri! bution the family has resolved to give you 20% commission and the remaining 80% will be reclaimed by the family. It will be my pleasure to be able to co-operate with you on terms that you may wish for the successful completion of this project. Thanks and remain blessed. 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I'd rather recommend | [ writing ] a short C program to access the file status directly, | and output the ctime directly (seconds since the epoch, i.e. perfect | | for numerical comparison). some systems have a stat(1) tool --- don't think it's GNU -- which, when given the `-t' option, does exactly what Lars is suggesting: $ stat -t /etc/motd /etc/motd 21 8 81a4 0 0 303 79 1 0 0 1028070983 830730492 1013296719 minor problem is the `-t' format is not actually explained in the man page, but its fairly easy to work out (or you can just look at the source). also, since the filename is printed as the first ""field"", bizarre filenames (e.g., ones which contain spaces or newlines) can confuse a simple script. cheers! -blf- | (Another way is to use GNU find -printf with a custom format [ ... ] -- Innovative, very experienced, Unix and | Brian Foster Dublin, Ireland Chorus (embedded RTOS) kernel internals | e-mail: blf@utvinternet.ie expert looking for a new position ... | mobile: (+353 or 0)86 854 9268 For a résumé, contact me, or see my website http://www.blf.utvinternet.ie Stop E$$o (ExxonMobile): «Whatever you do, don't buy Esso --- they don't give a damn about global warming.» http://www.stopesso.com Supported by Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, and numerous others... -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Wanting to sort like that is not common; I'd be surprised if exmh has a widget for it. You can achieve what you want with the command-line mh tools, though. I suggest doing the following from a shell prompt: sh -c 'for f in ""`folders -recurse -fast`"" ; do sortm +""$f"" ; done' (The command ""sortm"" will sort a particular folder, and ""folders -recurse -fast"" prints out a list of all of your folders.) 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--= Multipart Boundary 0925021429--",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 24 10:49:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5EA16F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:49:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:49:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8O3vIC19867 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 04:57:18 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33257294239; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BBD29409A for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17tgkb-0002Fb-00; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:52:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: To: ""Geege Schuman"" , ""Owen Byrne"" From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: RE: Comrade Communism (was Re: Crony Capitalism (was RE: sed /s/United States/Roman Empire/g)) Cc: ""Gary Lawrence Murphy"" , ""Mr. FoRK"" , , ""Digital Bearer Settlement List"" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:32:14 -0400 At 7:44 PM -0400 on 9/23/02, Geege Schuman wrote: > First, misattribution. My apologies. Rave on... Cheers, RAH ""Where all the children are above average..."" -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ""... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience."" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 20 11:52:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1149343C51 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:51:53 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7K9kbZ00671 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:46:37 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26161; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:45:41 +0100 Received: from kbs01.kbs.ie ([213.190.156.48]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26137 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:45:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [213.190.156.48] claimed to be kbs01.kbs.ie Received: by KBS01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:02:33 +0100 Message-Id: <55DA5264CE16D41186F600D0B74D6B09247297@KBS01> From: ""Brian O'Donoghue"" To: ""'ilug@linux.ie'"" Subject: RE: [ILUG] linux pthreads problem Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:02:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Cunniffe [mailto:vincent@cunniffe.net] > Sent: 20 August 2002 10:43 > To: ilug > Subject: Re: [ILUG] linux pthreads problem > > Padraig Brady wrote: > > Vincent Cunniffe wrote: > > > >> > >> Possibly. However, the amount of memory in use is stupid : > >> > >> I start 50 threads, and the memory usage goes up to 411436 VSZ/840 RSS. > >> > >> Then I stop those threads, and the usage stays there. I start another > 50 > >> threads, and the usage goes up to 821036 VSZ/1040 RSS. So, it's neither > >> freeing the resources correctly nor reusing them :-/ > >> > >> I've found several other people seeing the same VSZ issue with > pthreads, > >> spread over a long time, but no solution as yet. > > > > > > Err, Is your code fixed now? > > You need a seperate pthread_t per thread. > > I've tested it with and without separate pthread_t's, and the problem is > identical, unfortunately. > > Regards, > > Vin > > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription > information. > List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie Are you using pthread_join(somethread,0); When you are closing off your instanciated thread made from pthread_t*somethread ? -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 26 22:18:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D76343F99 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 26 Aug 2002 22:18:17 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7QLDMZ09780 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 22:13:22 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08232941D6; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from seawall.homeport.org (Seawall.Homeport.org [66.152.246.82]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503A5294099 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightship.internal.homeport.org (lightship.internal.homeport.org [10.0.0.11]) by seawall.homeport.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCE9568; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lightship.internal.homeport.org (Postfix, from userid 125) id 372302C92B; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Shostack To: Kragen Sitaker Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: the underground software vulnerability marketplace and its hazards (fwd) Message-Id: <20020822100808.A72593@lightship.internal.homeport.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from eugen@leitl.org on Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:42:12AM +0200 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:08:09 -0400 Hi Kragen, This is an interesting analysis. I think that there are a couple of nits I might pick (for example, I don't expect that the market will be well developed with highest bidders for while), I think that the most important issue, which is that end users won't be able to fix their systems, is almost passed over. I know that you know this, and you allude to it, but your essay is getting passed around, so you might want to add to it bits about the sysadmin and others. There's one other point which you don't make, which I think is very important, which is that research into defining and addressing classes of vulnerabilities can't happen without libraries of available vulnerability code. I can think of three researchers into automated methods for addressing vulnerabilities who griped, uninvited, about the quality of the existing vulnerability sites. Doing research into a set requires that you have enough examples, in the open, that you can define a set, and that the set is added to from time to time so you can make and test predictions. I feel fairly confident in saying that without full disclosure, we wouldn't have Stackguard, ITS4, Nissus, or snort. And the security admin's job would be a lot harder. Adam On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:42:12AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: | -- | -- Eugen* Leitl leitl | ______________________________________________________________ | ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://eugen.leitl.org | 83E5CA02: EDE4 7193 0833 A96B 07A7 1A88 AA58 0E89 83E5 CA02 | | | ---------- Forwarded message ---------- | Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:24:54 -0400 (EDT) | From: Kragen Sitaker | To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org | Subject: the underground software vulnerability marketplace and its hazards | | On August 7th, an entity known as ""iDEFENSE"" sent out an announcement, | which is appended to this email. Briefly, ""iDEFENSE"", which bills | itself as ""a global security intelligence company"", is offering cash | for information about security vulnerabilities in computer software | that are not publicly known, especially if you promise not to tell | anyone else. | | If this kind of secret traffic is allowed to continue, it will pose a | very serious threat to our computer communications infrastructure. | | At the moment, the dominant paradigm for computer security research | known as ""full disclosure""; people who discover security | vulnerabilities in software tell the vendor about them, and a short | while later --- after the vendor has had a chance to fix the problem | --- they publish the information, including code to exploit the | vulnerability, if possible. | | This method has proven far superior to the old paradigm established by | CERT in the late 1980s, which its proponents might call ""responsible | disclosure"" --- never release working exploit code, and never release | any information on the vulnerability before all vendors have released | a patch. This procedure often left hundreds of thousands of computers | vulnerable to known bugs for months or years while the vendors worked | on features, and often, even after the patches were released, people | wouldn't apply them because they didn't know how serious the problem | was. | | The underground computer criminal community would often discover and | exploit these same holes for months or years while the ""responsible | disclosure"" process kept their victims, who had no connections in the | underground, vulnerable. | | The problem with this is that vulnerabilities that are widely known | are much less dangerous, because their victims can take steps to | reduce their potential impact --- including disabling software, | turning off vulnerable features, filtering traffic in transit, and | detecting and responding to intrusions. They are therefore much less | useful to would-be intruders. Also, software companies usually see | security vulnerabilities in their software as PR problems, and so | prefer to delay publication (and the expense of fixing the bugs) as | long as possible. | | iDEFENSE is offering a new alternative that appears far more dangerous | than either of the two previous paradigms. They want to be a buyer in | a marketplace for secret software vulnerability information, rewarding | discoverers of vulnerabilities with cash. | | Not long before, Snosoft, a group of security researchers evidently | including some criminal elements, apparently made an offer to sell the | secrecy of some software vulnerability information to the software | vendor; specifically, they apparently made a private offer to | Hewlett-Packard to keep a vulnerability in HP's Tru64 Unix secret if | HP retained Snosoft's ""consulting services"". HP considered this | extortion and responded with legal threats, and Snosoft published the | information. | | If this is allowed to happen, it will cause two problems which, | together, add up to a catastrophe. | | First, secret software vulnerability information will be available to | the highest bidder, and to nobody else. For reasons explained later, | I think the highest bidders will generally be organized crime | syndicates, although that will not be obvious to the sellers. | | Second, finding software vulnerabilities and keeping them secret will | become lucrative for many more talented people. The result will be | --- just as in the ""responsible disclosure"" days --- that the good | guys will remain vulnerable for months and years, while the majority | of current vulnerabilities are kept secret. | | I've heard it argued that the highest bidders will generally be the | vendors of the vulnerable software, but I don't think that's | plausible. If someone can steal $20 000 because a software bug lets | them, the software vendor is never held liable; often, in fact, the | people who administer the software aren't liable, either --- when | credit card data are stolen from an e-commerce site, for example. | Knowing about a vulnerability before anyone else might save a web-site | administrator some time, and it might save the software vendor some | negative PR, but it can net the thief thousands of dollars. | | I think the highest bidders will be those for whom early vulnerability | information is most lucrative --- the thieves who can use it to | execute the largest heists without getting caught. Inevitably, that | means organized crime syndicates, although the particular gangs who | are good at networked theft may not yet exist. | | There might be the occasional case where a market leader, such as | Microsoft, could make more money by giving their competitors bad PR | than a gang could make by theft. Think of a remote-root hole in | Samba, for example. | | Right now, people who know how to find security exploits are either | motivated by personal interest in the subject, motivated by the public | interest, motivated by a desire for individual recognition, or | personally know criminals that benefit from their exploits. Creating | a marketplace in secret vulnerability information would vastly | increase the availability of that information to the people who can | afford to pay the most for it: spies, terrorists, and organized crime. | | Let's not let that happen. | | | | | This is the original iDEFENSE announcement: | | From: Sunil James [mailto:SJames@iDefense.com] | Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:32 PM | Subject: Introducing iDEFENSE's Vulnerability Contributor Program | | | Greetings, | | iDEFENSE is pleased to announce the official launch of its Vulnerability | Contributor Program (VCP). The VCP pays contributors for the advance | notification of vulnerabilities, exploit code and malicious code. | | iDEFENSE hopes you might consider contributing to the VCP. The following | provides answers to some basic questions about the program: | | Q. How will it work? | A. iDEFENSE understands the majority of security researchers do not publish | security research for compensation; rather, it could be for any of a number | of motivations, including the following: | | * Pure love of security research | * The desire to protect against harm to targeted networks | * The desire to urge vendors to fix their products | * The publicity that often accompanies disclosure | | The VCP is for those who want to have their research made public to the | Internet community, but who would also like to be paid for doing the | work.The compensation will depend, among other things, on the following | items: | | * The kind of information being shared (i.e. vulnerability or exploit) | * The amount of detail and analysis provided | * The potential severity level for the information shared | * The types of applications, operating systems, and other | software and hardware potentially affected | * Verification by iDEFENSE Labs | * The level of exclusivity, if any, for data granted to iDEFENSE | | Q. Who should contribute to the VCP? | A. The VCP is open to any individual, security research group or other | entity. | | Q. Why are you launching this program? | A. Timeliness remains a key aspect in security intelligence. Contributions | to some lists take time before publication to the public at large. More | often, many of these services charge clients for access without paying the | original contributor. Under the iDEFENSE program, the contributor is | compensated, iDEFENSE Labs verifies the issue, and iDEFENSE clients and the | public at large are warned in a timely manner. | | Q. Who gets the credit? | A. The contributor is always credited for discovering the vulnerability or | exploit information. | | Q. When can I contribute? | The VCP is active. You are welcome to begin contributing today. | | To learn more, go to http://www.idefense.com/contributor.html. If you have | questions or would like to sign up as a contributor to the VCP, please | contact us at contributor@idefense.com. | | Regards, | | Sunil James | Technical Analyst | iDEFENSE | | ""iDEFENSE is a global security intelligence company that proactively | monitors sources throughout the world -- from technical vulnerabilities and | hacker profiling to the global spread of viruses and other malicious code. | The iALERT security intelligence service provides decision-makers, frontline | security professionals and network administrators with timely access to | actionable intelligence and decision support on cyber-related threats. | iDEFENSE Labs is the research wing that verifies vulnerabilities, examines | the behavior of exploits and other malicious code and discovers new | software/hardware weaknesses in a controlled lab environment."" | | http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork | -- ""It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."" -Hume http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 16 12:00:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F6143C32 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:00:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7GAufa13873 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:56:41 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22255; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:54:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.19]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22214 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:54:39 +0100 From: prosthesis@eircom.net Message-Id: <200208161054.LAA22214@lugh.tuatha.org> Received: (qmail 12108 messnum 566459 invoked from network[159.134.237.77/kearney.eircom.net]); 16 Aug 2002 10:54:09 -0000 Received: from kearney.eircom.net (HELO webmail.eircom.net) (159.134.237.77) by mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 12108) with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 10:54:09 -0000 To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] Mirror a website Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:49:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-Ip: 159.134.221.29 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie You could try HTTrack, available here: http://www.httrack.com/index.php It does recursive grabs of stuff, gets pictures etc. Hello everyone, by the way. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1F9BE.12E451A0--",1 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Sep 26 16:42:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5047016F74 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:21 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:21 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QFVlg25067 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:31:47 +0100 Message-Id: <200209261531.g8QFVlg25067@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: zawodny Subject: Yahoo Finance RSS Beta Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:31:47 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000187.html Date: 2002-09-23T11:47:57-08:00 Got a stock ticker for which you'd like to have an RSS news feed? Help test the beta RSS feeds we've put up o Yahoo Finance. Take your favorite ticker, say YHOO, and put this URL in your news aggregator:...",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 26 19:44:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E64E43F99 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:44:42 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7QIgfZ04806 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:42:42 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B46294164; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2495E294162 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id 55E983EE34; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6013EDEC; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:43:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: Jim Whitehead Cc: FoRK Subject: Re: How unlucky can you get? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:43:23 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Jim Whitehead wrote: --]a sledgehammer)? We hadn't done anything unusual to the toilet in the recent --]past -- just normal use. I've *never* heard of this happening to anyone I --]know. The guts, yeah, they fail all the time. But the storage bowl -- never. --] Do you have any Tesla nuts inthe hood? Them hooligans and thier beams.. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Sep 25 10:23:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7E116F03 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:23:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:23:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8P83fC18326 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:03:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200209250803.g8P83fC18326@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: boingboing Subject: Bond-Barbie Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:03:41 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://boingboing.net/#85488621 Date: Not supplied Barbie has been made over as a Bond girl: [IMG: http://www.craphound.com/images/bondbarbie.jpg] As James Bond, Ken has matured nicely with rooted hair, with slight silvering at his temples, wearing a midnight blue tuxedo, and authentic recreation of the classic tux by Brioni, the famed clothier. Linda Hemming, the award winning costume designer in charge of this year's James Bond film, outfits Barbie doll. She wears a blood red gown with a glittering gold lace overlay and a gauzy red shawl with a gold filigree design. Her gown is cut up the side to reveal lots of leg as well as not so discreet hip strap that anchors Barbie's cell phone. The set is slated for release in November, to coincide with the premiere of ""Die Another Day,"" the new James Bond film. Bond, James Bond, meet Barbie, just Barbie... Link[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks Derek!_) [1] http://www.barbiebazaar.com/featured.htm [2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/jsxte7PqRiA",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Sep 12 13:39:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686C716F03 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:39:40 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:39:40 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C0KdC09588 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 01:20:42 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782582940AE; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5A429409A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id 935633ED61; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B813ECF4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Since we were on the subject... Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Gays, gay sex, gay marriage.....wooohooo its been a mano e mano week and thursady will be the mass market consumer period on it. The WWE's gay marriage cermemony is in the can, that is its been filmed last night for thursady nights Smackdown. Did they do it tastefully? Oh come on its the WWE for cripssake, of course they didnt. Did they use it ot promote an story line? Despite the WWE throwing away more good story lines in the last 2 years than a wood chuck who could chuck wood if the enviromentalists did not slap lawsuits on them, the sotrywrites seemed to have finaly hit on a big tie togther event for several story lines. But of course, no one here watches the WWE, and not even because you would rather watch old Divxs of the ECW, so this little bit is probably fallign on the old killsawfiles. SO I wont be bursting anyones thursdaynight plans if I smarkout and say that B and C waver near the final vows, the blame is falling on Ricco, thier ""manager""*, for pushing them to carry out their ""gay"" act far too long and just when things look to be heating up with that story arc......the mask comes off the justice of the piece as he pronounces that they have gone 3 minutes, yes 3 minutes, too long.....Yep, its the Bisch and in come Rosey and Jamal to attempt a stomping on Stpehnie McMahon. Hopefully they did not get off a kick like they did on the first lesbain back on Mondays raw as that broke a rib. Of course the editing truck boys might change some none or all of this around, so if thursday nights tape play reveals them hitch and on thier way to a honeymoon, thats the luck o the smarkies. I doubt it will be edited much though from the way I heard it. So the bottomline is, they really were not gay all along, they were play acting and it got out of hand because Ricco made them, Steaphnie gets a face push while the Bisch gets a thursady night special 3 min heel push, thus furthing the story arc of the brand split. Rosey and Jamala get heat and B and C get a new Tag Team to play with. Ricco..who knows, maybe some heat time would be good for him as a single. All this of course at a time when the ratting are in the bottom of a 4 year valley of gloom, the last 2 years have been mostly squandered on borken story arc promises and bad acting, and to top it all off Mick is no longer ont he sceen so...bang bang...how can it be all good? Well, its back to my growing ECW divx collection where Tajiri was the shiz and Mick cut promos unrivaled by any of todays mic monkeys. * Todays managers are a far cry form the managers of the 80's/early 90's. Ricco is nota Paul Bearer or a Jimmy Heart at all but more like a buddy who goes to the ring with them and occasional interferes..ugh.",0 "From pudge@perl.org Wed Jul 24 03:00:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64C0440CD for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:00:45 +0100 (IST) Received: from cpu59.osdn.com (slashdot.org [64.28.67.73] (may be forged)) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O21O413504 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:01:26 +0100 Received: from [10.2.181.14] (helo=perl.org) by cpu59.osdn.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17XBMD-00056u-01 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:54:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:00:29 +0000 From: pudge@perl.org Subject: [use Perl] Stories for 2002-07-24 To: yyyy-use-perl@spamassassin.taint.org Precedence: list X-Bulkmail: 2.051 Message-Id: use Perl Daily Newsletter In this issue: * Book Review: Web Development with Apache and Perl +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Book Review: Web Development with Apache and Perl | | posted by pudge on Tuesday July 23, @00:26 (books) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/23/0327228 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ [0]belg4mit writes ""I picked up [1]Web Development with Apache and Perl thinking it would be about mod_perl, in my mind Apache + perl = mod_perl. It's not."" This story continues at: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/23/0327228 Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/07/23/0327228 Links: 0. http:///pthbb.org/ 1. http://manning.com/petersen/ Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved. ====================================================================== You have received this message because you subscribed to it on use Perl. To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Wed Aug 28 10:46:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5B94415A for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:45:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S1APZ05113 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 02:10:25 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9FF3FEC4; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3213F6EC for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7S18TP24258 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:08:29 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7S18TY24254 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:08:29 -0400 Received: from blackcomb.panasas.com (gw2.panasas.com [65.194.124.178]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7S0rSl17185 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:53:28 -0400 Received: from medlicott.panasas.com (IDENT:welch@medlicott.panasas.com [172.17.132.188]) by blackcomb.panasas.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA30178; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:08:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200208280108.VAA30178@blackcomb.panasas.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5.9 07/25/2002 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Robert Elz Cc: Chris Garrigues , exmh-workers@redhat.com Subject: Re: Anolther sequence related traceback In-Reply-To: <12683.1030438738@munnari.OZ.AU> References: <1030372078.11075.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> <1030118301.3993.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> <16323.1030043119@munnari.OZ.AU> <6853.1030345218@munnari.OZ.AU> <12683.1030438738@munnari.OZ.AU> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Elz message dated ""Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:58:58 +0700."" From: Brent Welch X-Url: http://www.panasas.com/ X-Face: ""HxE|?EnC9fVMV8f70H83&{fgLE.|FZ^$>@Q(yb#N,Eh~N]e&]=> r5~UnRml1:4EglY{9B+ :'wJq$@c_C!l8@<$t,{YUr4K,QJGHSvS~U]H`<+L*x?eGzSk>XH\W:AK\j?@?c1o List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:08:12 -0700 You can also duplicate thiswith MsgChange - noshow at the Tcl prompt in the Log window. I suspect that the sequence parser, which understands things like 5-22 to mean messages 5 through 22 is confused when asked to add/remove message ""-"" from a sequence. If we are allowed to assume 8.2 or higher, which we can't really, then we could add if {![string is integer $select(sel)]} { # bail out of message select mode } to the SelectTypein procedure. We can probably survive with if {![regexp {^[0-9]+$} $select(sel)]} { #bail out of message select mode } >>>Robert Elz said: > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:27:56 -0500 > From: Chris Garrigues > Message-ID: <1030372078.11075.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> > > | Tell me what keystroke made it happen so I can reproduce it and I'll > | see what I can do about it (or if I can't, I'll hand it off to Brent). > > Don't worry too much about it, you seem to have plenty of other things > to do in the immediate future, and this one isn't so critical that people > can't use the code in normal ways. > > But, to make it happen, type (with normal key bindings) any digit, so the > code thinks you're trying a message number, then backspace, so the digit > goes away, then '-' (other junk characters don't seem to have the > problem, I have just been playing). That will do it (every time). > > That is: 0 ^h - > > Once you get into that state, the same traceback occurs for every > character you type, until a message is selected with the mouse. > > This is looking like it might be easy to find and fix, so I'll take a > look at it later. -- Brent Welch Software Architect, Panasas Inc Pioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network www.panasas.com welch@panasas.com _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 19 11:03:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC994406D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:55:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7H52D619369 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 06:02:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF53829409D; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832F7294098 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([24.61.140.132]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020817050125.DGSN1186.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@localhost>; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 05:01:25 +0000 From: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Educational Reply-To: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <32120604960.20020817010121@magnesium.net> To: Gary Lawrence Murphy Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re[2]: Al'Qaeda's fantasy ideology: Policy Review no. 114 In-Reply-To: References: <58113821767.20020816230818@magnesium.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:01:21 -0400 Hello Gary, Oh I don't know if I'd go to the point of 'hate lit' -- Its an interesting, albiet a bit troubling theory. Its not touchy-feely, nor liberal friendly, but I wouldn't necessary say hate lit. >>>>>> ""b"" == bitbitch writes: GLM> b> My only problem with this article ... GLM> I know I'll get my share of flames for saying so, but my only problem GLM> with this article is that it is some of the scariest subtext hate-lit GLM> propaganda I've seen come out of the US since the March of Tears, and GLM> twice scarier that it is not seen as such. -- Best regards, bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Thu Sep 26 16:29:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C812516F16 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:29:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:29:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QE8Ag21413 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:08:11 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6343F15B; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32C43EA6B for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8QE4FD31358 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:04:15 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8QE4Ff31354 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:04:15 -0400 Received: from austin-jump.vircio.com (IDENT:TjGUmy/2hMGCR/pkXTjQk+pjvGJ6rQSH@jump-austin.vircio.com [192.12.3.99]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8QDkBi08547 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:46:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 13375 invoked by uid 104); 26 Sep 2002 14:04:14 -0000 Received: from cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com by localhost.localdomain with qmail-scanner-0.90 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4225. . Clean. Processed in 0.331783 secs); 26/09/2002 09:04:14 Received: from deepeddy.vircio.com (@[10.1.2.1]) (envelope-sender ) by austin-jump.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Sep 2002 14:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 16172 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 14:04:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) (?oK+kvfmi7M9NMJlIUSwajTM4UMF+IU7I?@[127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Sep 2002 14:04:09 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Anders Eriksson Cc: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Bug report: msg n+1 marked read In-Reply-To: <20020925212231.7D4503F2F@milou.dyndns.org> References: <20020925212231.7D4503F2F@milou.dyndns.org> X-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg X-Image-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/chris.gif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""==_Exmh_-1577134449P""; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1033049049.16162.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> From: Chris Garrigues X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.62 Reply-To: Chris Garrigues X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:04:07 -0500 --==_Exmh_-1577134449P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Anders Eriksson > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:22:26 +0200 > > > It seems that something changed during the last 3-4 weeks. > > 1) In a folder, msgs 1-n is read, n=current, n upwards is unread. > 2) change to another folder > 3) change back to the original folder and you'll see msg n+1 being > highlighted as current for a split second, that it changes back to > n=current. > > Kind of annoying since it marks msg n+1 as read. I haven't seen what you describe, but I just saw something close to what you describe. I think the message that's being incorrectly highlighted as current is related to the current message in the other folder rather than being n+1. I'll have to investigate a bit more to identify and fix the bug, but there is something going on here. Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 716 Congress, Suite 200 Austin, TX 78701 +1 512 374 0500 World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers. --==_Exmh_-1577134449P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE9kxPXK9b4h5R0IUIRAq5fAJ43lzUupVkBkj6iJ5Rn7BsBQH5AywCfTAl2 TJnhSBCb4C+1vyt/QjnVOOQ= =94lB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1577134449P-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Oct 9 10:55:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FAB16F1C for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:52:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:52:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g98MwbK05339 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:58:41 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904F22940DE; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F68229409A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17z3IZ-0007ta-00; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:57:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: To: Digital Bearer Settlement List , fork@spamassassin.taint.org From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: The Disappearing Alliance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:18:20 -0400 http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/printer.jsp?CID=1051-100802B The Disappearing Alliance By Dale Franks 10/08/2002 For over two generations, the countries of Western Europe have been our closest allies. We stood beside each other through the darkest days of the Cold War as partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. We celebrated with them over the fall of the Soviet Empire and the liberation of Eastern Europe from the yoke of communism. Tragically, a generation from now, we may be bitter adversaries. Europe has increasingly fallen under the spell of a political ideology that Hudson Institute scholar John Fonte has termed ""progressive transnationalism"". The key doctrines of this form of post-communist progressivism contain some fairly pernicious ideas. Among these are the deconstruction of nationalism, the promotion of post-nationalist ideas of citizenship (i.e. a ""global"" citizenry), a redefinition of democracy, and the pooling of national sovereignty into multinational groups such as the United Nations. The European Union, itself a multinational organization built through the pooling of sovereignty by European nations, is post-democratic. While there is a European Parliament, the EU's power resides mainly in the unelected European Commission (EC) and its unelected President, who face few limits to their power. Instead of a limited, consensual form of government, where elected representatives promulgate constitutional laws, the EU has an appointed, oligarchic executive, along with a large attendant bureaucracy, whose orders are not constitutionally limited in any real sense. Moreover, the EU has been unwilling to accept the democratically expressed wishes of the people themselves when those wishes conflict with the results desired by the EU's political elite. Both the EC and the European Court of Justice regularly overturn the national laws of democratically elected EU member governments. This is a step backward in Europe's political development. European criticism of America is on the rise, and the European list of complaints about America is a long and growing one. They dislike the fact that our republican system of government is not based on proportional representation. They hate the fact that our citizens own guns. They despise the fact that we execute murderers. They resent the fact that our economy is so large, and that Americans consume so much. They also resent?and fear - the fact that we have the ability to project American power anywhere in the world. On August 9, 2002, Adrian Hamilton wrote a column in the UK's Independent newspaper, in which he identified the US as a rogue state who should be restrained, perhaps by a European military invasion, followed by a decade or so of occupation. Fortunately, the article is satirical not because it exaggerates the way European progressives view the US, but rather because the impotence of European military power makes the idea of an invasion of the US literally fantastic. At least, for now. Despite the tongue-in-cheek nature of this editorial, however, the fact remains that America is increasingly viewed this way by the European intellectual and political elite. The Europeans actively desire a world where the United Nations keeps in check the activities of sovereign states. Because they have built such a system in Europe, they feel it's valid for the rest of the world. America, however, is the biggest obstacle to such a system. The Europeans cannot understand why America places a higher value on the ethos of national sovereignty and limited, consensual, and constitutional government, than it does on compliance with international ""norms."" They view all departures from such norms as aberrant. Because the UN member states all have an equal vote in prescribing international norms, they assume that, since the process is ostensibly legitimate, the results must be as well. The trouble with this idea, of course, is that it gives the views of non-democratic, authoritarian states the same weight as those of free, democratic societies. It sanctifies the process, with no regard to the actual results. Thus, they are unable to make any moral distinction between the US refusals to join in a given international effort because we wish to preserve the liberty of our citizens, and similar refusals from Iraq because its dictator wishes to maintain his firm grip on power. Our repeated references to the US Constitution, and our unwillingness to bypass its provisions to comply with international norms, are incomprehensible to them. They assume, therefore, that our refusal is based on arrogance, rather than on a commitment to constitutional rights. None of this bodes well for the future of Euro-American friendship, or cooperation. If the Europeans continue to reject traditional liberalism in favor of the new progressivism, their criticism of the US will rise, while their tolerance of our differences will fall. Obviously, in such a political atmosphere, the opportunities for conflict will inevitably increase. That thought is frightening enough. Even more frightening, however, is the thought that such a conflict might be averted by our own acceptance of the new ideology of transnational progressivism. -- ----------------- R. A. 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  Free Personal and Business Grants

 

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Getting Business Grants

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In Egypt, about 80% > > of the population in Cairo lives in places where they are officially > > illegal. > > If the situation in Egypt is anything > like the situation in the Philippines, > it's because people (due to a strange > desire for jobs) squat on land which > they don't own.* The Philippines suffers from a Spanish-imposed aristocratic landowner class, the same as in most of Latin America, with the serf-like relationships that go with it. You have multiple generations of peasants/squatters that cultivate and live on the lands almost as a human parts of the property package. The problem in the Philippines is that the landowner class is fading, but the peasants are still operating under the old economic assumption even though it isn't being imposed on them in most cases. In a number of areas, you have landowners that don't use their lands during bad years (i.e. when sugar prices fall too low or some other condition that makes planting unprofitable in the global economy) and in some cases have all but abandoned them, but when they come back to plant crops several years later they find the same peasants living on the fallow land as scratch farmers to survive and waiting for the landowner to come back and give them something to do. The government's solution to this was to ""redistribute"" fallow land to the peasants that lived on them, and created a number of problems in the process. First of all, it meant that all the agricultural producers had to plant crops all the time (profitable or not) or the government would seize the land and give it to someone else, which is not economically optimal by any means. Second when they give it to the peasants, they use it to become scratch farmers, which is not a particularly productive economic activity, and the landowners generally let them do that for free when the land is fallow anyway. Third, the peasants generally *prefer* to work for the landowner rather than own the land themselves; they make more money, have more opportunities to become middle-class, and enjoy a better lifestyle under that arrangement. So the result of all this is that the landowners either run an economically sub-optimal agriculture business to protect their lands, or they risk having their land seized without compensation and given to the peasants/squatters who will gladly sell it back to the plantation owner rather than becoming scratch farmers, another economically sub-optimal solution. The only real role of the government in this arrangement is to be a drag on the economy. And I don't know about 20 years for land titles in the Philippines. It takes a little longer than in the US (though not much), and you may have to bribe someone to make it work well in an expedited manner, but it isn't that onerous in the regions I'm familiar with. Speaking as a former Philippine plantation owner. (Yes, really. On Negros and Cebu. 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If we were to do it in Lucan, that would be another story ;--) Do we have many takers? CW ------------- On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 09:22:27AM +0100, Wynne, Conor mentioned: > When are we going to have a pint? Tuesday next week. Boars Head, Capel st. Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Serial # 9e45tYu2-ssI3USA",1 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Aug 9 15:39:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7373B440FB for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:34:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79EWrb07882 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:32:53 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01773 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:31:53 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17cvhL-0001av-00; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:24:03 -0700 Received: from adsl-67-118-106-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([67.118.106.171] helo=frontier.limbo.net) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17cvgt-0001nm-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:23:35 -0700 Received: by frontier.limbo.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id C6F6630E945; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chip Paswater Cc: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Razor-users] keep submitting known spam? Message-Id: <20020808152638.A32536@frontier.limbo.net> References: <20020808111842.J1593@rover.vipul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from craig@deersoft.com on Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 01:54:07PM -0700 X-MY-PGP-Fingerprint: 4D42 5220 2EB4 21F4 39C4 BDDA C948 F15C DE2E F798 Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:26:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:26:38 -0700 > > To reiterate, the idea behind Razor is to turn 1 bit of > > information from > > the user (this message is or isn't spam) into a comprehensive > > filteration > > system. Everything from computation of signatures for content > > identification, to assignment of confidence and trust, distribution of > > signatures, etc is done automagically. > > Well, a little more than one bit -- you have to transmit the > signature, plus now the entire message body. Plus your ID. > Plus the rights to all intellectual property contained in any > email message you submit (I guess technically there are no bits > in the rights assignment) Perhaps a feature can be added to razor-report, so that it checks whether a message is spam before it submits it. If it is spam, then don't send the body, 4 signatures, etc, just up the ""rating"" for that individual spam. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 10 11:07:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB6816F03 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:07:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:07:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8A28CC12363 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 03:08:12 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A982942F0; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7198F29409A for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Intellistation ([66.31.2.27]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020910020728.OFEI9751.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@Intellistation> for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:07:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson Organization: Electric Brain To: ""FoRK"" Subject: Re: Recommended Viewing User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200209092206.33219.eh@mad.scientist.com> Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:06:33 -0400 On Monday 09 September 2002 09:51 pm, Geege Schuman wrote > ever notice how the feelings evoked in some dreams stick with you all > day?i'm sure it's some neurochemical process initiated during the dream > that is still cycling thru - like a deja vu, triggered by memory > processes, where > you don't actually remember but you feel like you're > remembering. Absolutely, and I've wanted to recapture it. I've done some writing based on dreams, and there is a mysterious ""mood"" to that feeling that drives some creative stuff for me. I've never tried to write music in that state, but I will next time. Eirikur",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 9 16:04:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891CF440E2 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:59:45 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79EZZb08384 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:35:35 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01041 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:56:14 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04656; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:48:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.19]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04625 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:48:25 +0100 Message-Id: <200208082048.VAA04625@lugh.tuatha.org> Received: (qmail 93744 messnum 529542 invoked from network[159.134.237.90/chester.eircom.net]); 8 Aug 2002 20:47:54 -0000 Received: from chester.eircom.net (HELO webmail.eircom.net) (159.134.237.90) by mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 93744) with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 20:47:54 -0000 From: ""wintermute"" To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] Gentoo Linux Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:24:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-Ip: 159.134.176.67 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Mark Page printfd APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR 80 CHAR LINES IN WEB MAIL (will get a mail client for this soon, honest) > Has anybody on the list installed/used this distro? If so wouldn't mind a bit > of help. > > Burnt the ISO's from the latest Linux Format magazine. Took a couple of > attempts to install but got there. My problem - I have a standard dial-up > modem and the installation gives you the network card setup so internet > download is out of the question, but, I installed the Stage3 tarball which > puts the .tgz files on your harddrive. > > So methinks, I have the software there and all I need to do is install so as > 1) get the necessary programmes to connect to the net and 2) install any > other programmes I might need. > > What actually happens is that if, for example, I attempt to install the KDE > package, the system goes looking for any dependencies on the net despite the > fact that the dependencies reside on my hard drive. Obviously I can't install > anything. > > Have checked all docs on the web page and nothing deals with a standard > dial-up modem or how to tell the package manager to look for the dependencies > on the hard drive. > > Anybody able to help me here? > > Thanks in anticipation. Yup I'm running it on my k6 233 laptop. It's tres sweet. I would recommend getting wvdial, opening a virtual terminal dialing the internet and then emerging the packages you need. I did my install over my home lan and the lan in work (which has DSL - running Linux as firewall/router/mailserver of course). But yes you will need at least wvdial to make this puppy happen me thinks. In fact it looks as if the base install comes with wvdial for just this kind of instal. But I just found this on the Gentoo site for you. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=4691&highlight=modem Specifically quote: If it is not too obvious, these are the steps I took. * Boot off the install CD * modprobe serial * setserial (if needed) * create mount point for other distribution * mount other distribution * chroot'd to other distribution * su - to regular user * ran wvdial * switch consoles and install as normal And yes I do give better technical support to people who use distros I like. I'm only laughing on the outside My smile is just skin deep If you could see inside I'm really crying You might join me for a weep. <> -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Habeus -- Why? X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <829DCAD0-BAC5-11D6-AD60-003065C182B0@radparker.com> <1030567825.3271.TMDA@omega.paradigm-omega.net> In-Reply-To: <1030567825.3271.TMDA@omega.paradigm-omega.net> X-Habeas-Swe-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-Swe-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-Swe-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-Swe-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-Swe-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-Swe-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-Swe-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200208281548.21264.matt@nightrealms.com> Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:48:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:48:21 -0700 On Wednesday 28 August 2002 01:50 pm, Robin Lynn Frank wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2002 01:34 pm, Brian McNett wrote: > > Also, that little haiku is a copyrighted work, so not only CAN > > Habeas sue, they MUST sue to protect their copyright. And since > > it's a trademark as well, that's a double-whammy. Habeas has > > some pretty high-powered legal people, who will gladly go to > > town on violators. > > The whole point here is to give them the legal leverage they > > need to put spammers out of business, and not only block mail > > from them, but allow through the things that really AREN'T spam. > And if a spammer forges headers??? There must be *some* way of tracking a spammer down, since they are planning on making money from the spam. What a court would consider evidence of being the spammer is another question. -- Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. ICQ: 132152059 | Advanced SPAM filtering software: http://spamassassin.org ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing real-time communications platform! Don't just IM. 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Date: 19 Jul 2002 14:25:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: ""Adam L. Beberg""'s message of ""Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:28:54 -0700 (PDT)"" Message-Id: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org ""Adam L. Beberg"" writes: > > VCs don't care about the success of the venture or the jobs of those > > involved in it, they aren't ""funding innovation"" or stimulating growth > > or fueling the economy. > > Possibly replace ""own"" with ""take from you ASAP with dilution"". Their goal > is to take what you have by any means nessecary and sell it to someone else > for more then they paid within 7 years or less. That's what they do, nice > and simple. Your based-on-GPL-thing gives them no way to do that, so you are > irrelivant to the VC/investment world. 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",1 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Tue Jul 30 16:08:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7F0440F1 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:07:56 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UF87q01475 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:08:08 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g6UF03823764; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:00:03 +0200 Received: from mail.addix.net (kahless.addix.net [195.179.139.19]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g6UExF823562 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:59:15 +0200 Received: from wolf359 (cic.ision-kiel.de [195.179.139.139]) by mail.addix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16476 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:59:04 +0200 From: Ralf Ertzinger To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: building as non-root / newbie question Message-Id: <20020730170021.4ee67dc2.ralf@camperquake.de> In-Reply-To: <20020730142853.32654.qmail@linuxmail.org> References: <20020730142853.32654.qmail@linuxmail.org> Organization: [NDC] ;-) X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:00:21 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:00:21 +0200 Hi. ""Kevin Worthington"" wrote: > into /home/dude/redhat etc. by running > #rpm -ivh foo.src.rpm Do this: echo ""%_topdir /home/dude/redhat"" >> /home/dude/.rpmmacros and make sure the directory structure (RPMS, SOURCES, SPECS, SRPMS, BUILD) is there. -- R! _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From secprog-return-510-jm=jmason.org@securityfocus.com Mon Sep 23 18:31:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747B916F03 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:31:17 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:31:17 +0100 (IST) Received: from outgoing.securityfocus.com (outgoing2.securityfocus.com [205.206.231.26]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8NFICC22953 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:18:12 +0100 Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [205.206.231.19]) by outgoing.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with QMQP id AAB618F4BC; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:21:13 -0600 (MDT) Mailing-List: contact secprog-help@securityfocus.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list secprog@securityfocus.com Delivered-To: moderator for secprog@securityfocus.com Received: (qmail 13967 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2002 08:06:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:00:42 +0000 From: redhat To: SECPROG Securityfocus Subject: Re: use of base image / delta image for automated recovery from attacks Message-Id: <20020920230041.A1139@xlnt-software.com> Mail-Followup-To: SECPROG Securityfocus References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i X-Loop: redhat@rphh.org X-Meow: Your pets will be disembowled if you do not keep up payments. reply to the mail from Ben Mord (bmord@icon-nicholson.com): > Hi, Hello, < ... snipped for brevity ... > > ... This concept could also be > applied to the application servers, and even the database server partitions > (except for those partitions which contain the table data files, of course.) Although the data might just be the information that needs protecting. > Does anyone do this already? Or is this a new concept? I've seen this implemented for a shell server, although they chose to have their root on a CD-WR in a CD-R drive. Which meant that even when compromised it was only possible to examine other users data. AFAIR(emember) they just swapped CD's when a root exploit was found. > Thanks for any opinions, NP blaze your trail -- redhat 'I am become Shiva, destroyer of worlds'",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Oct 4 11:03:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C9F16F1A for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:02:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:02:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93LQFK15644 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:26:16 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F14329417E; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mail.lig.net (unknown [204.248.145.126]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9BF29409C for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lig.net (unknown [66.95.227.18]) by mail.lig.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8186A131; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3D9CB788.6050602@lig.net> From: ""Stephen D. Williams"" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Living Love - Another legacy of the 60's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 17:32:56 -0400 Normally, I disdain any kind of mysticism, even when it is associated with fairly good ideas. Just a big turnoff. A good example would be the difference between Yoga/TM and the more scientifically pure, but related, relaxation techniques including ""betagenics"", hypnosis/auto-hypnosis, etc. (This was one of the many topics I obsessively absorbed as a teenager.) Or Tai Chi etc. vs. Tai Bo / G-Force Dyno-Staff. I have to say however that, having found this while looking for something completely unrelated, it has some cute truisms. I particularly like their addiction to non-addiction. Additionally, the Mindprod treehugger site has some interesting quotes, etc. To my internal ear, nearly all of these 60's based new-age vernacular seem to assume that you are a simple child (of the 60's?) who needs some religion-like couching of ideas to relate and internalize. Very irritating, but taken in small doses it's interesting to compare and contrast with our (my) modern mental models. I found that a few of the principles could be used to explain and justify US/UN foreign policy and actions. http://mindprod.com/methods.html http://members.aol.com/inossence/Kenkey.html http://www.mindprod.com/ (Apologies for the embedded HTML.) We create the world we live in. A loving person lives in a loving world, A hostile person lives in a hostile world. Everyone you meet is your mirror. You make yourself and others suffer just as much when you take offence as when you give offence. To be upset over what you don't have is to waste what you do have. The past is dead, The future is imaginary, Happiness can only be in the Eternal Now Moment How soon will you realize that the only thing you don't have is the direct experience that there's nothing you need that you don't have. Love a person because he or she is there. This is the only reason. Happiness happens when your consciousness is not dominated by addictions and demands~ and you experience life as a parade of preferences. The purpose of our lives is to be free of all addictive traps, and thus become one with the ocean of Living Love. sdw -- sdw@lig.net http://sdw.st Stephen D. 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I tried to compile but it did an error message: I've been working on a .src.rpm for it. Their rpm and spec file is very dirty, so I""m cleaning it up. I think I have all the build-req's and the install req's sorted out, but I need more testers. http://geek.j2solutions.net/rpms/k3b/ Please try it. -- Jesse Keating j2Solutions.net Mondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org) Was I helpful? 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I am finding it necessary to whitelist a _lot_ of mailing lists. Some, such as yahoogroups, I can't whitelist because the from: address is the person making the post, so I will have to whitelist on another field when I can modify my code to do so. I wonder if someone is not being careful about their submissions, or if these are bad mailing lists that don't drop bad mail addresses that become trollboxes in time. Any employee who has left my company more than three years ago is eligible to become a trollbox. I figure after three years of bounced mail, the list should have figured out they aren't here any more. Fox ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "Return-Path: ler@lerami.lerctr.org Delivery-Date: Mon Sep 9 05:04:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lbrout12.listbuilder.com (lbrout12.listbuilder.com [204.71.191.16]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/20020902/$Revision: 1.30 $) with SMTP id g89A4HE9013144 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 05:04:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 5390 invoked by uid 0); 9 Sep 2002 10:11:56 -0000 Date: 9 Sep 2002 10:11:56 -0000 Message-ID: <1031566316.99762.qmail@ech> To: List Member Reply-To: FIAZ-feedback-4@lb.bcentral.com From: ""Aleksandar Gligoric"" Subject: SPS se odrekao Slobodana Milosevica MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lerami.lerctr.org id g89A4HE9013144 X-Status: X-Keywords: Socijalisticka partija Srbije, predvodjena grupom starih socijalista na celu sa Milomirem Minicem, konacno se odrekla politike i herojskog drzanja predsednika te stranke Slobodana Milosevica, saopstenjima, da jedan ,,slabo obavesten covek ne moze, pogotovu ne iz zatvorske celije upravljati tako velikom partijom kao sto je Socijalisticka partija Srbije, pa zvao se on i Slobodan Milosevic''. Socijalisti koji za sebe danas kazu da vise nisu idolopoklonici Slobodana Milosevica, neprestano, u kontaktima sa clanovima i simpatizerima te partije, pokusavaju da razdvoje odbranu Slobodana Milosevica u Hagu, od politickog zivota u Srbiji, pripisujuci Milosevicevim braniocima iz nacionalnog komiteta za oslobadjanje S. Milosevica, ,,Sloboda'' da im je cilj da uniste Socijalisticku partiju Srbije. Iako je zbog istih takvih gledista, svojevremeno najpolularniji socijalista, posle predsednika te stranke, prof. Branislav Ivkovic bio iskljucen iz redova SPS, danas rukovodstvo SPS koristi jos teze i grublje kvalifikacije na racun njihovog predsednika, pritom ne strahujuci da bi bilo ko od njih mogao biti iskljucen iz partije. Ne retko se poslednjih dana, u rokovodstvu partije cuje da partija nije Slobodan Milosevic, i da on ne predstvalja tu partiju, vec da su partija Rukovodstvo i Glavni odbor te stranke. Medjutim u clanstvu i medju simpatizerima te stranke, stvari se ne odijaju bas po planovima rukovodstva. Procene idu dotle da se na septembarskim izborima ocekuje da Bata Zivojinovic osvoji tek 1% glasova. Clanovi partije, najveci deo njih i danas veruje svom heroju, Slobodanu Milosevicu. Po clanstvu partije, ovih dana u rukovodstvu partije, oni koji su predsednika te stranke pogresno informisali poslednjih godina, kada su shvatili da im je ,,odzvonilo'' pokusavaju da sacuvaju sebe eliminacijom predsednika Slobodana Milosevica. Mladi socijalisti, kojih i nema bas mnogo, kako se SPS svojevremeno hvalio, izgleda su na strani predsednika te stranke. Tako se u nastupima na opstinskim odborima, mogu cuti uverljivi govori Dejana Stjepanovica i Igora Raicevica, i po neki Milinka Isakovica iz redova mladih socijalista, clanova organizaciono politickog odbora predsednika SPS. Obracanja ovih mladih ljudi, medju clanstvom partije imaju do deset puta vecu tezuni, nego li obracanja profesionalnih politicara koji za sobom vuku teret proslosti. Stav rukovodstva mladih socijalista, se razlikuje od stava saveta mladih, koji su takodje na strani predsednika. Branko Ruzic i Dejan Backovic, svojevremeno najveci branioci i zastupnici lika i dela Slobodana Milosevica, danas su se pretvorili u njegove najvece kriticare. Pokusavaju na sve moguce nacine da minorizuju grupu mladih koja ga podrzava. Cak se poslednjih dana cuje, da je najbolji recept da se rukovodstvo mladih odrzi ikao je protiv Sloba, da se povezu rodbinskim vezama, pa se tako predsednik mladih socijalista Beograda, Ana Djurovic udala za Branka Ruzica, predsednika Mladih socijalista Srbije, koji je za kuma uzeo Dejna Backovia, svog potpredsednika. Backovic se ovih dana zeni, jednom mladom socijalistkinjom koja je clan saveta mladih, a u isto vreme i sestra jednog od clanova IO GO SPS-a, za kuma uzima jos jednog mladog socijalistu iz Saveta mladih. Sve u svemu, mladi u SPS se drze kao italijanske mafijaske porodice 60-tih u SAD. Sta ce se do kraja price dogoditi ostaje pitanje, no clanstvo i simpatizeri ce oceniti rad svog rukovodstva na predsednickim izborima. 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What images did you serve to the sunrays to boot them over tftp/dhcp? > > Hi Damian. > > SuSe has a Sparc version I previously been running on a Sun > Ultra 5 at > least. Worked fine, albeit a bit slow... ;) > > //Anders > -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 29 16:42:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB0C43F9B for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:42:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TFYvZ18369 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:34:58 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kRI7-0008KP-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:33:03 -0700 Received: from moonbase.zanshin.com ([167.160.213.139]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kRHG-000488-00 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:32:10 -0700 Received: from aztec.zanshin.com (IDENT:schaefer@aztec.zanshin.com [167.160.213.132]) by moonbase.zanshin.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g7TFW8J23933 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:32:08 -0700 From: Bart Schaefer To: Spamassassin-Talk Subject: Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why? In-Reply-To: <3D6E255A.CB569D9B@hallikainen.com> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT) On 28 Aug 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Dan Kohn writes: > > > Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself > > on your installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to > > only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all > > violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will > > quickly remove us from the next release. But, you're trying to kill > > Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise. > > I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a > score. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle > for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base. I have to agree here. If Habeas is going to die just because SA does not support it, that's a serious problem with the business model; but that is nobody's problem but Habeas's. A possible solution is for Habeas's business model to include some kind of incentive for users of SA to give it the benefit of the doubt. I have yet to think of an incentive that fits the bill ... On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Justin Mason wrote: > I don't see a problem supporting it in SpamAssassin -- but I see Dan's > points. > > - high score: as far as I can see, that's because SpamAssassin is > assigning such high scores to legit newsletters these days, and the > Habeas mark has to bring it down below that. :( IMO we have to fix > the high-scorers anyway -- no spam ever *needs* to score over 5 in our > scoring system, 5 == tagged anyway. This is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all its incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject at SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10). If some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1, there'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their thresholds to 5. On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: > But I agree that there needs to be more focus on eliminating rules that > frequently hit on newsletters. If any newsletters actually use the Habeas > mark, that will be one way to help. Newsletters won't use the mark. Habeas is priced way too high -- a factor of at least 20 over what the market will bear, IMO -- on a per-message basis for most typical mailing lists (Lockergnome, say) to afford it. On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > Habeus has come up with a very clever way to use existing law to battle > spam. It seems that at some point they could drop the licensing fee to > $1 or less and make all their income off suing the spammers for > copyright infringement. Sorry, that just can't work. If the Habeas mark actually becomes both widespread enough in non-spam, and effectively-enforced enough to be absent from spam, such that, e.g., SA could assign a positive score to messages that do NOT have it, then spammers are out of business and Habeas has no one to sue. There's nobody left to charge except the people who want (or are forced against their will because their mail won't get through otherwise) to use the mark. Conversely, if there are enough spammers forging the mark for Habeas to make all its income suing them, then the mark is useless for the purpose for which it was designed. Either way it seems to me that, after maybe a couple of lawsuits against real spammers and a lot of cease-and-desist letters to clueless Mom&Pops, then either (a) they're out of business, (b) they have to sell the rights to use the mark to increasingly questionable senders, or (c) they've both created and monopolized a market for ""internet postage stamps"" that everybody has to pay them for. The latter would be quite a coup if they [*] could pull it off -- they do absolutely nothing useful, unless you consider threatening people with lawsuits useful, yet still collect a fee either directly or indirectly from everyone on the internet -- effectively we'll be paying them for the privilege of policing their trademark for them. I don't believe they'll ever get that far, but I don't particularly want to help them make it. 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Once I receive your reply, I will send you the Text of Application for immediate Application of Claim. Thanks for your anticipated assistance. Yours faithfully, DR.WALTER IBE --=====================_889472414==_ Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
UNION BANK OF NIG LTD.
35 MARINA,
LAGOS ISLAND

DEAR Sir,

First, I must solicit your confidence in this transaction, this is by virture of its nature as being utterly confidencial and top secret. though i know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried, but i am assuring you that all will be well at the end of theday. we have decided to contact you due to the urgency of this transaction,let me start by introducing myself properly to you. I am the manager Bills and Exchange of Foreign Remittance department of Union Bank of NIgeria (U.B.N. Headquarters Lagos NIgeria) formally Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS-AG Zurich Switzerland). In accordance with Federal Government Policies on indiginalization Law on company and Allied matters of Jan 1977. I am writing you this letter to ask for your support and co-operation to carry out this transaction.We discovered an abandoned sum of US$20 million(twenty million US Dollars) in an account that belongs to one of our Foreign customer who died along side his entire family in November 1997 in a plane crash. Since this development,we have advertised for his next of kin or any close relation to come forward to claim this money, but nobody came to apply for the claim. To this effect,I and two other officials in my department, have decided to look for a trusted foreign partner who can stand in as the next of kin to the deceased and claim this money.We need a foreign partner to apply for the claim because of the fact that the customer was a foreigner and we don't want this money to go into the Banks Treasury as unclaimed fund. Every document to affect this process will emanate from my table and I will perfect every documentto be in accordance with the banking law and guidelines,
So you have nothing to worry about.We have agreed that 20% of the money
will be for you, 10%for expenses incurred on both sides, 10% will be
donated to the charity organization while 60% will be for my colleagues
and I. If you are going to help me, indicate by replying this letter
and putting in your BANK PARTICULARS, PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS.

I await your immediate reply to enable us start this transaction in earnest.
Once I receive your reply, I will send you the Text of Application for
immediate Application of Claim.

Thanks for your anticipated assistance.

Yours faithfully,

DR.WALTER IBE



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I've been waiting for Hettinga to regale us with one of his well-tuned micro-cash-bearer-settlement-geodesic-finance rants. 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",1 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Sep 13 20:45:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769B216F03 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:45:22 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:45:22 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8DIijC30740 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:44:46 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17pvMK-0005TS-00; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:40:04 -0700 Received: from [209.176.10.157] (helo=linux.eopenex.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17pvLP-0008Ke-00 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:39:07 -0700 Received: from www.mp-i.com (printer.net-nation.com [209.176.10.8]) by linux.eopenex.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8DIXhU28824 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:33:47 -0400 From: ""vernon"" To: ""spamassassin-talk"" Reply-To: vernon@comp-wiz.com Message-Id: <20020913183343.M49078@b2unow.com> In-Reply-To: <20020913151635.M21128@b2unow.com> References: <20020913151635.M21128@b2unow.com> X-Mailer: MP-I.com Messaging OpenWebMail 1.71 20020827 X-Originatingip: 67.81.72.77 (vernon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean X-Mailscanner-Spamcheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-3, required 5, IN_REP_TO, FROM_NAME_NO_SPACES, TO_LOCALPART_EQ_REAL) Subject: [SAtalk] OT: DNS MX Record Clarification Please Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:33:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:33:43 -0500 This may be a little off topic but thought people here would have a better response to this elsewhere. 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Thanks, V ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner at comp-wiz.com, and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Sun Sep 8 23:50:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBC216F1A for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:50:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 08 Sep 2002 23:50:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g88HOEC03926 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:24:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA012940F0; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03002940C4 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.100] ([64.173.24.253]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H240092BQYV6K@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for fork@xent.com; Sun, 08 Sep 2002 10:23:19 -0700 (PDT) From: James Rogers Subject: Re: whoa In-Reply-To: To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:55:00 -0700 On 9/8/02 7:38 AM, ""Gary Lawrence Murphy"" wrote: > J> ... If you want a region of the globe mapped out to a very > J> high resolution (e.g. 1-meter), they can scan the area with > J> aircraft LIDAR and add it to the database, thereby making that > J> region zoomable to the resolution of the database for that > J> area. > > Can you give us an example of an application where 1-m resolution > would be worth the considerable expense? An example: Being able to model RF propagation in three dimensions for a metro area when deploying wireless networks. By having every single tree and building detail and similar, you can ""see"" even tiny dead spots due to physical blockage and signal attenuation. Overlay this with fiber map data for yourself and your competitors (when you can glean such data), which is also useful at this resolution, and you have a very slick way of modeling existing network deployments in excruciating detail and optimizing further deployments to maximize coverage and bandwidth. Take that and tie it into a slick geo-physically aware real-time network monitoring and management system and you've really got something... 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    ***",1 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Thu Aug 15 10:51:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB2B43C4B for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:49:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7EJvO401232 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:57:24 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27741; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:56:40 +0100 Received: from odin.he.net (odin.he.net [216.218.181.2]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27704 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:56:30 +0100 Received: (from dbiassoc@localhost) by odin.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) id MAA31265; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:56:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:56:09 -0700 Message-Id: <200208141956.MAA31265@odin.he.net> X-Authentication-Warning: odin.he.net: dbiassoc set sender to poneil@dbiassociates.net using -f From: ""Paul O Neil"" To: Ronan Cunniffe Cc: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] DHCP X-Mailer: WebMail 1.25 X-Ipaddress: 207.213.78.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie > Quoting Paul O'Neil : > > > Excuse me for asking an old question here but Ive been running SuSE with a > > cable modem for a couple months. About 5-6 weeks ago the internet access > > was > > not working and I rebooted noticing I came up with a new IP address, and it > > worked fine. How does it work exactly when the cable company releases and > > renews an ip address. Do they merely setup their system to issue new ip > > addresses when cusomters reboot their computer or does it take affect > > immediately and it caused the internet disruption that required a reboot or > > at least a network reload? If so, can this be detected automatically and > > taken care of or is that just how it works? > > A DHCP client daemon (dhcpcd, pump) can do this automatically. Some cable > companies apparently reassign the same address over and over when the leases run > out, so you get away without a daemon for long enough to make you think you > don't need one. :-) > > Ronan > > Is what your talking about, this process is running all the time. root 422 0.0 0.4 1332 500 ? S 03:18 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -D -N -Y -t 999999 -h cable-modem-1 eth0 If alright then maybe coincidence, I'll wait and see when I get another address. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Oct 1 10:37:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF2116F17 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:37:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:37:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g91805K15325 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:00:05 +0100 Message-Id: <200210010800.g91805K15325@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: diveintomark Subject: Best Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:00:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/09/30.html#best Date: 2002-09-30T16:06:50-05:00 _Heather Hamilton_: Very Best of the World's Worst[1]. “After watching last night's premiere of ""The Very Best of the World's Worst Drivers: 2"" I tried to figure out what it was about these very best worst drivers that made them the very best, but not really _the_ very best, because if they really were _the_ very best, wouldn't they have been featured on ""The Very Best of the World's Worst Drivers: 1"" ?” [1] http://www.dooce.com/mtarchives/09_30_2002.html",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Wed Sep 11 13:42:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB1316F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:42:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:42:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8AIwYC12426 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:58:34 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA593ED6C; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx2.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (nat-pool-rdu-dmz.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.200]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D850E40193 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx2.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8AFvEN06460 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:57:14 -0400 Received: from mx2.spamassassin.taint.org ([172.16.26.25]) by int-mx2.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8AFvDd06453 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:57:14 -0400 Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8AFews27980 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:40:59 -0400 Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id GQF37091; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:56:48 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7FF5D04; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:56:47 -0700 (PDT) To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Cc: Rick Baartman Subject: Re: Sorting In-Reply-To: Your message of ""Mon, 09 Sep 2002 22:06:58 CDT."" <3642.1031627218@dimebox> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=""Multipart_Tue_Sep_10_08:56:11_2002-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ""Kevin Oberman"" Message-Id: <20020910155647.0B7FF5D04@ptavv.es.net> X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:56:47 -0700 --Multipart_Tue_Sep_10_08:56:11_2002-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > From: Hal DeVore > Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org > Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 22:06:58 -0500 > > > > >>>>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, ""Rick"" == Rick Baartman wrote: > > Rick> This is dangerous; I have to remember to re-scan each > Rick> folder I enter. Is there a safeguard for this? > > Nope. Regenerate the cache in the script > > for f in `folders -fast -r` > do > echo sorting $f ... > sortm +$f > scan `mhpath +`/$f/.xmhcache > done > > --Hal Here is the little script I run I run nightly from cron. It does a general tidying of things including sorting and updating the cache. I didn't write it and I'm afraid I have lost track of who did, but it's worked well for years. I run a similar one to update the glimpse indices nightly. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 --Multipart_Tue_Sep_10_08:56:11_2002-1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=""swasort"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #!/bin/tcsh -f # # Sorts all folders # # We don't want to sort the drafts folder (and the folders ~/Mail/.glimpse/) # # default field to sort .: date # default scan width ....: 100 # set MH_DIR=/usr/local/nmh/bin set MAIL=/home/oberman/Mail # update $MAIL/.folders $MH_DIR/folders -fast -recurse -all > $MAIL/.folders # thru all folders ... foreach i ( `cat $MAIL/.folders | grep -v \.glim | grep -v drafts` ) # sort the stuff $MH_DIR/mh/sortm +$i -datefield date >& /dev/null # and update the cache $MH_DIR/scan +$i -width 100 > $MAIL/$i/.xmhcache end --Multipart_Tue_Sep_10_08:56:11_2002-1-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Sat Sep 7 21:52:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4938B16F1A for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:52:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:52:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g871S7C02024 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:28:08 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1F42940A2; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from isolnetsux.techmonkeys.net (isolnetsux.techmonkeys.net [64.243.46.20]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 31EAE29409E for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16015 invoked by uid 501); 7 Sep 2002 01:26:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 01:26:31 -0000 From: CDale To: Eugen Leitl Cc: bitbitch@magnesium.net, ""Adam L. Beberg"" , Subject: Re[2]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:26:31 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, CDale wrote: > > > It also depends on what the fad is or what is in style. (: > > DNA's idea of fads is on the 100 kiloyear scale, unfortunately. As long as > current fads don't involve in-vivo rewrite of the genome, homeoboxes > including (now there's a problem for you, homeoboxing the adult), they're > not all that smart an idear. I forgot what we were taking about. (: > > > Actualy our silly antiquated ideas about relationships and love have > > resulted in the bleedings of many upon many a page (and musical > > instrumnet, and canvas) What's the problem if we dash a little Mrs. > > Art is sure nice. However, if art is our first priority we're kinda > fux0red, if we've set our sight on a sustainable culture. Nah, didn't say art's our priority. Said our ideas about relationships and love are. > > And let me tell you this: just because a child happens to be > > single-parented (what a word), does not mean that child is > > dysfunctional or lives in a dysfunctional home. The govt/media/church > > Our firmware is not built to be single-parented. You can counteract that > somewhat by exposing the kid to a community of close friends, but not too > many do that. I see it a lot in the south. Also family. > > > has tried to make it look like there is a disintegration, when in > > fact, there is a coming together of other family members and friends > > to raise children. It's not decaying -- it's changing. Nothing wrong > > with change. > > I don't know what exactly is wrong, but something is definitely wrong. > This is way too important to be left to just our intuition of what is > right and what is wrong. One thing that's wrong is who some of us choose as babysitters. Too many kids are put in front of the television for hours each day, to be influenced by what the media and government thinks is important. I learned a long time ago that what they think is important and what is are two different things. I threw the TV out when Xi was 9. She's got her own place now, and still doesn't have one. YaY! Another thing that's wrong is what goes on in public schools. Some allow a bit of individuality, but only for a class or a short period of time, depending on the teachers, most of the time. I dunno how many times I've seen Xi come home from school absolutely miserable or outraged about something that happened at school. She made it to college, though, whew. It's a big problem to tackle, and I don't know the answer. I like the idea of the voucher system, because in a way it is a way parents can vote more efficiently for how their kids are taught. > > > > At least from the viewpoint of demographics sustainability and > > > counterpressure to gerontocracy and resulting innovatiophobia we're doing > > > something wrong. > > > > > > Maybe we should really go dirty Tleilaxu all the way. > > > > > > > Maybe y'all should buy m-w some more bandwidth. > > m-w? > merriam-webster. (: C -- ""I don't take no stocks in mathematics, anyway"" --Huckleberry Finn",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Oct 1 10:37:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB2016F18 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:37:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:37:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9181BK15570 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:01:11 +0100 Message-Id: <200210010801.g9181BK15570@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: fark Subject: The worst Freddy Krueger costume ever Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:01:11 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-1,8412059,1717/ Date: 2002-09-30T23:25:21+01:00 [IMG: http://www.newsisfree.com/Images/fark/xent.gif ([X-Entertainment])]",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 20 11:52:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7448743C4C for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:51:49 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7K9XRZ32672 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:33:27 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25208; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:32:04 +0100 Received: from milexc01.maxtor.com ([134.6.205.206]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25177 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:31:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [134.6.205.206] claimed to be milexc01.maxtor.com Received: by milexc01.maxtor.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:31:54 +0100 Message-Id: <0D443C91DCE9CD40B1C795BA222A729E01885603@milexc01.maxtor.com> From: ""Wynne, Conor"" To: ""'Colin Nevin'"" , ilug@linux.ie Subject: RE: [ILUG] staroffice 6.0 installation freezes under RH7.3 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:31:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie No problems installing OpenOffice 653??? and 1.0. Had some issues with bz2's being corrupted but fixed when downloaded again. I am downloading the src of 1.01 at the mo to se if it will work any faster compiled for my architecture. Regards, CW ------------ Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has ever installed StarOffice 6.0 (or Open Office), and if any have experienced any problems with the install freezing ? I'm using RedHat 7.3 kernel 2.4.18-3, and glibc 2.2.5 ? I might try downloading OpenOffice instead if it is unresolved!!!! Cheers all, Colin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Jul 22 19:24:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB35440C8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:24:46 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MG13Y16341 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:01:03 +0100 Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27722 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:34:37 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g6LDJ2C10288; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:19:02 +0200 Received: from basket.ball.reliam.net (basket.ball.reliam.net [213.91.6.7]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g6LDHsC06663 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:17:54 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (pD9EB58B9.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.88.185]) by basket.ball.reliam.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 957473DD2 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:17:41 +0200 (CEST) From: che To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: Ximian apt repos? Message-Id: <20020721151211.7140ecdb.che666@uni.de> In-Reply-To: <20020721145013.4dc253d6.che666@uni.de> References: <1027203479.5354.14.camel@athena> <20020720211551.6fb70f27.kilroy@kamakiriad.com> <1027218043.3516.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20020721051108.0fd207d5.che666@uni.de> <20020721142007.03c02bc4.che666@uni.de> <1027252799.12983.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20020721145013.4dc253d6.che666@uni.de> Organization: che X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:12:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:12:11 -0400 On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:50:13 -0400 che wrote: > On 21 Jul 2002 23:59:59 +1200 > Mark Derricutt wrote: > > > On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 06:20, che wrote: > > > > > The server mentioned above works again now :)! > > > > Any problems with the rpm's they provided? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > RPM-List mailing list > > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list > > #redhat 7.3 > rpm http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 73 > rpm-src http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 73 > > #redhat 7.2 > rpm http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 72 > rpm-src http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 72 > > thats the correct lines to be added to sources.list for the repository > > i just did a apt-get install gnome-session its still progressing :) > after apt-get install gnome-session i did another apt-get upgrade (25 more packages) and it works now... i am in gnome 2.0 wohooooo :) looks very great very ""tidy"" only error message i got was about a mixer applet on login (no biggie to me) even the old sawfish still works. yet its great and works cant say anythign negative yet :) just btw. if someone knows any other nice repositorys please post em :). thanks in advance, che > _______________________________________________ > RPM-List mailing list > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From pudge@perl.org Wed Sep 11 13:43:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E488B16F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:43:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:43:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from cpu59.osdn.com (slashdot.org [64.28.67.73] (may be forged)) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8B20FC29875 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 03:00:15 +0100 Received: from [10.2.181.14] (helo=perl.org) by cpu59.osdn.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17owlg-0001Mr-01 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:58:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:00:29 +0000 From: pudge@perl.org Subject: [use Perl] Stories for 2002-09-11 To: yyyy-use-perl@spamassassin.taint.org Precedence: list X-Bulkmail: 2.051 Message-Id: use Perl Daily Newsletter In this issue: * DynDNS.org Offers Free DNS To Perl Sites +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | DynDNS.org Offers Free DNS To Perl Sites | | posted by KM on Tuesday September 10, @08:23 (news) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/10/1225228 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ [0]krellis writes ""[0]DynDNS.org today [1]announced that it will provide free premium DNS services (primary and secondary DNS hosting) to any domains involved in the Perl Community. 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To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Mon Sep 2 12:20:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29F343F99 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:20:16 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7THrQZ23177 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:53:26 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kTE9-0001nO-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:37:05 -0700 Received: from [208.7.1.205] (helo=everest.mckee.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17kTDU-0002ED-00 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:36:24 -0700 Received: (qmail 7071 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 12:32:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO belvoir) (208.7.1.202) by 208.7.1.205 with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 12:32:22 -0000 Message-Id: <010501c24f82$947b3340$7c640f0a@mfc.corp.mckee.com> From: ""Fox"" To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Razor-users] Collision of hashes? Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:36:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:36:17 -0400 The following was personal correspondence between two people. I can't fathom how Razor thinks it is spam: > > We are struggling with the decisions related to wether or not to > go ahead with our plans to purchase an OCR and forms > scanning solution. > > An outside consultant mentioned that he had heard that not to > long ago you folks were considering implementing OCR > technology to reduce data entry costs and improve efficiency. > If you could let us know if you did move foreward with any > plans in that direction it would be of great help to us. May I ask > what initialy prompted you to consider OCR? Did you decide it > could help your compamy? What software did you go with? > Would you recomend we take a look at it? > At present we are still planning to continue our research until > we decide which OCR system best suits our needs, then > implement it quickly. > > If you are just starting to consider this > technology feel free to stay in touch. We will let you know what > we decide on and if it works for us. > > If you cannot advise on this please forward this E-mail to the > proper individual in your company who might be able to help with > this. > Thanks, > Jay ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Oct 3 19:28:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D45816F03 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:28:40 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:28:40 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93HkOK07821 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:46:28 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17x9wH-0008HB-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 10:39:05 -0700 Received: from 12-236-11-40.client.attbi.com ([12.236.11.40] helo=cynosure.darkridge.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17x9vX-0007mb-00 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 10:38:19 -0700 Received: (from jpr5@localhost) by cynosure.darkridge.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id g93HcEm05276 for razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:38:14 -0700 From: Jordan Ritter To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Razor-users] problems with hubris and/or discovery Message-Id: <20021003173813.GE2299@darkridge.com> References: <016601c26b00$e23f0c70$f2812d40@landshark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature""; boundary=""ey/N+yb7u/X9mFhi"" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016601c26b00$e23f0c70$f2812d40@landshark> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Copyright: This e-mail is Copyright (c) 2002 by jpr5@darkridge.com X-Spamadvice: Pursuant to US Code; Title 47; Chapter 5; Subchapter II; 227 any unsolicited commercial email to this address will be subject to a download and archival fee of US$500. 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Various routes across the Internet backbones have been disappearing, repropagating, and disappearing again. This has caused and exacerbated several problems which we are working on correcting right now. We apologize for the inconvenience.. Best,=20 --jordan On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:18:25PM -0400, Sven Willenberger wrote: # trying to report spam [razor chooses hubris] I timeout on the connection # (which seems to have gotten slower all morning) and receive the following # error message: #=20 # razor-report error: connect4: nextserver: discover1: Error reading socket # connect4: nextserver: discover1: Error reading socket #=20 # I then try to run razor-admin -discover and receive the same error ..... # problems with the servers today? only one discovery server? #=20 # Sven #=20 #=20 #=20 # ------------------------------------------------------- # This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek # Welcome to geek heaven. # http://thinkgeek.com/sf # _______________________________________________ # Razor-users mailing list # Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net # https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users --ey/N+yb7u/X9mFhi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9nICFpwQdAVEbU7oRAiw+AJ966WR+zA0g47m0E7SkgCMbivfLkgCeOtGc V2cgz8USK1UPYH7YJwh1SyM= =dZej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ey/N+yb7u/X9mFhi-- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "Return-Path: ler@lerami.lerctr.org Delivery-Date: Wed Sep 4 06:56:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from localhost.localdomain ([202.88.149.8]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/20020902/$Revision: 1.30 $) with ESMTP id g84Bu1X2026577 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:56:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server ([202.88.149.167]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07716 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:54:03 +0530 Received: from 10.0.0.6 by server ([10.0.0.1] running VPOP3) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:50:10 +0530 To: From: ""Deepak Nagpal"" Subject: 11th Convergence India 2003 exhibition & conference Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 16:55:29 +0530 Message-Id: <37503.705196875002000.233756@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server: VPOP3 V1.3.0b - Registered to: The GodFader X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Status: X-Keywords:
    Dear Sir/Madam,
     
    I got this email id from your website.
     
    Our organisation, Exhibitions India Pvt Ltd organises the annual Convergence India exhibition and conference in New Delhi, India during the month of March. Convergence India is the longest running international trade-show and the only forum in India to showcase the convergence of voice and data networks, delivery of content, television and entertainment applications, broadcast, telecommunications, fixed and mobile networks, internet, computing etc.
     
    For the same, I would like to contact the concerned person in your organisation. Could you please advise his/her complete contact details or please forward the following mail to him/her. In case you are the decision maker about participation in international exhibitions, following this mail is some information on our annual event.
     
    Thank you in advance.
     
    Sincerely and with best regards,
     
    Deepak Kr. Nagpal
    Executive Marketing
     
    Exhibitions India Pvt. Ltd.
    A-17 2nd Floor
    DDA SCO Complex
    Near Moolchand Flyover
    Defence Colony
    New Delhi 110 024
    Tel:  +91 11 463 8680-84
    Fax: +91 11 463 3506, 462 3320
    email: exhibitionsindia@vsnl .com
    website: www.exhibitionsindia.o rg
     
     
    INFORMATION ABOUT THE EVENT
     
    Exhibitions India organises the Convergence India  exhibition & conference, which is the longest running international trade-show and the only forum in India to showcase the convergence of voice and data networks, delivery of content, television and entertainment applications, broadcast, telecommunications, fixed and mobile networks, internet, computing etc.
     
    Exhibitions India invites you to participate at the 11th Convergence India 2003 exhibition & conference, which will be at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi, India during 11-13 March 2003.
     
    The Government of India has recently mandated the Conditional Access System for distribution of satellite television channels. This has created a whole new marketplace in the Indian cable industry. Once this bill is made an act, it will be mandatory for cable operators to distribute pay channels through a set-top box.

    India has an estimated 38 million cable homes! The implementation of this change will require massive investments in set-top boxes, conditional access software and the upgradation of headend networks - a great oppotunity for you to tap this huge market!! Exhibiting your products at the 11th Convergence India exhibition will give you an opportunity to meet all your  targetted visitors under a single roof.

    Other exhibits will be from various industries including high speed networking, internet telephony, mobile and satellite communications, network infrastructure, optical access networking, portable communication devices, t&m and interactive media, VoIP, wireless access, 3G, m-commerce, multimedia broadband services via satellite, conditional access technologies, satellite receivers and transmitters, encoders, decoders, and the latest in broadcast, cable and satellite equipment, mobile phone accesories  etc.

    We successfully concluded the 10th Convergence India 2002 exhibition and conference at New Delhi - the event had 176 exhibitors from 17 countries displaying their equipment and technologies to a discerning audience of 16,093 visitors from the industry, government, related trade associations. The event got extensive coverage from the media - both print and electronic. The three day high profile conference had over 1374 delegates. Highlights of the event were country pavilions from USA, FRANCE, CHINA & the VoIP Technology Pavilion.
    More about the next event:
     
    Convergence India is certified by the US Department of Commerce since 1994.
     
    UK Group Participation : Trade Fairs Support,UK

    Co-organisers:
    - Ministry of Communications & IT, Government of India
    - Association of Basic Telecom Operators
    - Cellular Operators Association of India
    - Indo-American Chamber of Commerce
    - VSAT Services Association of India
    - Telecom Equipment Manufacturers Association of India (TEMA)
    - Internet Service Providers Association of India (ISPAI

    Supports:
    All India Aavishkar Dish Antenna Sangh, India, Cable Operators Federation of India, India, Economics, Finance & Trade Commission of France (UBI France), Electronic Component Industries Association, India, Global VSAT Forum, UK, International Broadcasting Convention (IBC), UK, National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), USA, Swiss Multimedia Association, Switzerland, Telecom Users Group of India, India, The Institution of Electronics and Telecommunication Engineers, India
     
    Participation Cost:
    Shell Space:    US $ 250 per sqm (minimum 9 sqm)
    Raw Space:     US $ 220 per sqm (minimum 18 sqm)
     
    Please visit our website (www.exhibitionsindia.o rg) for further details. 
     
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    ",1 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:25:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA82B16F16 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:24:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:24:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9382hK20068 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:02:43 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030802.g9382hK20068@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: zawodny Subject: OSXCon: Development Lessons from Bare Bones Software Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:02:43 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000215.html Date: 2002-10-02T17:02:15-08:00 This talk is not supposed to be technical or marketing, but more of a ramble. We'll see. :-) ""Living above the Curve"" BB is a strange company, as they've been Mac-only are have been in business for over 10 years....",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Sep 23 18:31:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C26216F03 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:31:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:31:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8NFu4C24239 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:56:04 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g8NFg1f01477; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:42:01 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g8NFfRf01318 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:41:27 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: sylpheed-claws Message-Id: <20020923174120.73573065.matthias@egwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20020923080924.27618d2b.hosting@j2solutions.net> References: <20020919221046.7484dec6.hosting@j2solutions.net> <20020920104055.201c2986.matthias@rpmforge.net> <20020923080924.27618d2b.hosting@j2solutions.net> Organization: Electronic Group Interactive X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) Reply-BY: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 19:02:00 +1000 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux power! 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:41:20 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:41:20 +0200 Once upon a time, Jesse wrote : > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200 > Matthias Saou wrote: > > # But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon > # as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-) > > It got updated (; So did my build if the original source is what you were mentioning ;-) One drawback : They changed from pspell to aspell apparently, and it requires aspell >= 0.50 which isn't even in Rawhide, so spell checking is disabled for now until I take a decision about it :-/ If I build recent aspell packages, they may not be upgraded when ungrating to the next Red Hat Linux release (the final version of the limbos and (null) betas), which is maybe not really desired. 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Sure does explain FoRK :-) not yet abandoned, Rohit khare@alumni.caltech.edu Some Friends, Indeed, Do More Harm Than Good September 10, 2002 By MARY DUENWALD Friends are supposed to be good for you. In recent years, scientific research has suggested that people who have strong friendships experience less stress, they recover more quickly from heart attacks and they are likely to live longer than the friendless. They are even less susceptible to the common cold, studies show. But not all friends have such a salutary effect. Some lie, insult and betray. Some are overly needy. Some give too much advice. Psychologists and sociologists are now calling attention to the negative health effects of bad friends. ""Friendship is often very painful,"" said Dr. Harriet Lerner, a psychologist and the author of ""The Dance of Connection."" ""In a close, enduring friendship, jealousy, envy, anger and the entire range of difficult emotions will rear their heads. One has to decide whether the best thing is to consider it a phase in a long friendship or say this is bad for my health and I'm disbanding it."" Another book, ""When Friendship Hurts,"" by Dr. Jan Yager, a sociologist at the University of Connecticut at Stamford, advises deliberately leaving bad friends by the wayside. ""There's this myth that friendships should last a lifetime,"" Dr. Yager said. ""But sometimes it's better that they end."" That social scientists would wait until now to spotlight the dangers of bad friends is understandable, considering that they have only recently paid close attention to friendship at all. Marriage and family relationships - between siblings or parents and children - have been seen as more important. Of course, troubled friendships are far less likely to lead to depression or suicide than troubled marriages are. And children are seldom seriously affected when friendships go bad. As a popular author of relationship advice books, Dr. Lerner said, ""Never once have I had anyone write and say my best friend hits me."" Dr. Beverley Fehr, a professor of psychology at the University of Winnipeg, noted that sociological changes, like a 50 percent divorce rate, have added weight to the role of friends in emotional and physical health. ""Now that a marital relationship can't be counted on for stability the way it was in the past, and because people are less likely to be living with or near extended family members, people are shifting their focus to friendships as a way of building community and finding intimacy,"" said Dr. Fehr, the author of ""Friendship Processes."" Until the past couple of years, the research on friendship focused on its health benefits. ""Now we're starting to look at it as a more full relationship,"" said Dr. Suzanna Rose, a professor of psychology at Florida International University in Miami. ""Like marriage, friendship also has negative characteristics."" The research is in its infancy. Psychologists have not yet measured the ill effects of bad friendship, Dr. Fehr said. So far they have only, through surveys and interviews, figured out that it is a significant problem. The early research, Dr. Fehr added, is showing that betrayal by a friend can be more devastating than experts had thought. How can a friend be bad? Most obviously, Dr. Rose said, by drawing a person into criminal or otherwise ill-advised pursuit. ""When you think of people who were friends at Enron,"" she added, ""you can see how friendship can support antisocial behavior."" Betrayal also makes for a bad friendship. ""When friends split up,"" said Dr. Keith E. Davis, a professor of psychology at the University of South Carolina, ""it is often in cases where one has shared personal information or secrets that the other one wanted to be kept confidential."" Another form of betrayal, Dr. Yager said, is when a friend suddenly turns cold, without ever explaining why. ""It's more than just pulling away,"" she said. ""The silent treatment is actually malicious."" At least as devastating is an affair with the friend's romantic partner, as recently happened to one of Dr. Lerner's patients. ""I would not encourage her to hang in there and work this one out,"" Dr. Lerner said. A third type of bad friendship involves someone who insults the other person, Dr. Yager said. One of the 180 people who responded to Dr. Yager's most recent survey on friendship described how, when she was 11, her best friend called her ""a derogatory name."" The woman, now 32, was so devastated that she feels she has been unable to be fully open with people ever since, Dr. Yager said. Emotional abuse may be less noticeable than verbal abuse, but it is ""more insidious,"" Dr. Yager said. ""Some people constantly set up their friends,"" she explained. ""They'll have a party, not invite the friend, but make sure he or she finds out."" Risk takers, betrayers and abusers are the most extreme kinds of bad friends, Dr. Yager said, but they are not the only ones. She identifies 21 different varieties. Occupying the second tier of badness are the liar, the person who is overly dependent, the friend who never listens, the person who meddles too much in a friend's life, the competitor and the loner, who prefers not to spend time with friends. Most common is the promise breaker. ""This includes everyone from the person who says let's have a cup of coffee but something always comes up at the last minute to someone who promises to be there for you when you need them, but then isn't,"" Dr. Yager said. Some friendships go bad, as some romantic relationships do, when one of the people gradually or suddenly finds reasons to dislike the other one. ""With couples, it can take 18 to 24 months for someone to discover there's something important they don't like about the other person,"" said Dr. Rose of Florida International. ""One might find, for example, that in subtle ways the other person is a racist. In friendships, which are less intense, it may take even more time for one person to meet the other's dislike criteria."" Whether a friendship is worth saving, Dr. Lerner said, ""depends on how large the injury is."" ""Sometimes the mature thing is to lighten up and let something go,"" she added. ""It's also an act of maturity sometimes to accept another person's limitations."" Acceptance should come easier among friends than among spouses, Dr. Lerner said, because people have more than one friend and do not need a full range of emotional support from each one. But if the friendship has deteriorated to the point where one friend truly dislikes the other one or finds that the friendship is causing undue stress, the healthy response is to pull away, Dr. Yager said, to stop sharing the personal or intimate details of life, and start being too busy to get together, ever. ""It takes two people to start and maintain a friendship, but only one to end it,"" Dr. Yager said. Friendship, because it is voluntary and unregulated, is far easier to dissolve than marriage. But it is also comparatively fragile, experts say. Ideally, the loss of a bad friendship should leave a person with more time and appreciation for good ones, Dr. Lerner said. ""It is wise to pay attention to your friendships and have them in order while you're healthy and your life and work are going well,"" she said. ""Because when a crisis hits, when someone you love dies, or you lose your job and your health insurance, when the universe gives you a crash course in vulnerability, you will discover how crucial and life-preserving good friendship is."" http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/10/health/psychology/10FRIE.html?ex=1032684795&ei=1&en=2a88a6d1b985c977 HOW TO ADVERTISE --------------------------------- For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters or other creative advertising opportunities with The New York Times on the Web, please contact onlinesales@nytimes.com or visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help@nytimes.com. Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Oct 7 18:28:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBDE16F18 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:28:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:28:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net ([193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g97GiXK07957 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:44:34 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g97GbEf28185; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:37:14 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g97GaYf20550 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:36:34 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: RH 8 no DMA for DVD drive Message-Id: <20021007183629.40ab9860.matthias@rpmforge.net> In-Reply-To: <1034007312.2296.8.camel@bobcat.ods.org> References: <1033953429.13890.4.camel@AMD1800> <1033954359.28832.4.camel@athlon.ckloiber.com> <1033964717.1263.8.camel@AMD1800> <20021007085643.5b9bb88c.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1034007312.2296.8.camel@bobcat.ods.org> Organization: freshrpms.net / rpmforge.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) X-Operating-System: Red Hat GNU/Linux forever! X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux... use Linux... use Linux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:36:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:36:29 +0200 Once upon a time, Ville wrote : > > BTW, I think I'll kake it so that my ogle package automatically inserts > > this ""options ide-cd dma=1"" to /etc/modules.conf! It currently creates > > the/dev/dvd link to /dev/cdrom (which will work most of the time, if > > there's only one drive) if no /dev/dvd exists. > > Eek. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that's a good idea. > Outputting a message in %post and providing a README of some kind would > be better, as well as perhaps adding a note in %description. Why ""Eek""? :-) If no /dev/dvd exists, it'll create it. If /dev/dvd exists, it won't touch it. If someone installs ogle (a DVD player), I'm assuming the hardware is recent enough for software playback and that the drive is a DVD-ROM... all of them support DMA! But since that change requires a reboot or a manual change, I'm still hesitating to integrate it :-/ My goal is to allow users to install a DVD player through synaptic and play DVDs in no time. Outputting a message in the %post section of a package is always a bad idea, putting the tip in the %description sounds good though. Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi Load : 0.07 0.14 0.16 _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Wed Oct 9 10:52:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0A116F22 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:51:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:51:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g996xEK23238 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 07:59:14 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g996u5f26135; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:56:05 +0200 Received: from python (80-24-132-206.uc.nombres.ttd.es [80.24.132.206]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g996tHf25655 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:55:17 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: Zoot apt/openssh & new DVD playing doc Message-Id: <20021009085508.7d183613.matthias@rpmforge.net> In-Reply-To: <1034134030.26329.85.camel@ckk.rdu.spamassassin.taint.org> References: <20021008163613.0c1dcc72.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1034134030.26329.85.camel@ckk.rdu.redhat.com> Organization: freshrpms.net / rpmforge.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) X-Operating-System: Red Hat GNU/Linux forever! 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Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Sep 6 11:42:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C4F16F77 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:39:53 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:39:53 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g869r9C29228 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:53:09 +0100 Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19090 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:41:25 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8052829425A; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F792940AA for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cynosure.stanford.edu ([80.7.27.124]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020905220745.IIXA23840.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@cynosure.stanford.edu> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:07:45 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905150722.054fb3c8@rescomp.stanford.edu> X-Sender: extant@rescomp.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org From: Hussein Kanji Subject: RE: sprint delivers the next big thing?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:07:44 -0700 i agree with rob. i think if the phones (and mms is building traction in europe in handsets), this might be interesting. bottom line is will it a) help sell phones and b) bill enough time on the wcarriers networks? anyone remember the polariod photo sticker fad? low quality, small in size. but kids totally dug that stuff. seems like every adolescent girl had that stuff at one point. and it never replaced or aimed to replace digital cameras or normal photographs. i don't think mms photos will be a substitute for other photography - developed at the local 1 hour joint or digital photos on your pc. i think it expands the market and forms a new category. the extent of the category size is the big question (will it be a fad or will it a sustained market). that's consumer behavior and marketing. but i don't think the technology adoption will follow a substitution of another product on the market (in this case, digital photos or normal photos). europe's the one to watch - more teenagers have wireless phones and if the pricing and marketing is right, they'll figure out what to do with it once the carriers how to figure out how to market it to them. -h >From: ""Rob Shavell"" >To: ""'Mike Masnick'"" >Cc: >Subject: RE: sprint delivers the next big thing?? >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:10:50 -0700 > >right Mike, > >i will agree to disagree but i take your comments to heart. my opinion is >only that this is one of the last frontiers of communications ('instant >show') that we cross easily (though you are right as rain on pricing). i am >mildly amused at the level of skepticism and innatention it is getting. > >my premise is that the world will change in dramatic and unexpected ways >once there are a billion 'eye's' which can instantly share what they see >amongst each other. that doesn't mean that people will stop talking on >their phones, or that people will spend more time w/images than voice. just >that it is fundamental. from news to crime to privacy to dating to family >life to bloopers and practical jokes, i believe there will be an explosion >of images unleashed specifically by cell phone integrated lenses because of >their utter ubiquity that dwarfs all pictures taken in the history of >photography by orders of magnitude and in short order. and yes, changes >things 'big time'. > >rgds, >rob > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Masnick [mailto:mike@techdirt.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:58 PM >To: Rob Shavell >Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org >Subject: RE: sprint delivers the next big thing?? > > >Not to keep harping on this, but... > >At 11:36 PM 8/20/02 -0700, Rob Shavell wrote: > >>content: who cares about content? that no one can think of 'useful' >content >>is always the business persons mistake. the content is the users >>communications. its anything and everything. avg person could easily send >>half dozen pics to a dozen people a day. mainly humorous i'd guess. who >>cares if content is trivial in nature. picture speaks a thousand words. > >This does nothing to answer my question. I *do* care about content. Hell, >if I could be convinced that people would send stupid pics back and forth >all day, I'd have a different opinion of this. I just am not convinced >that they will (stupid or not). > >While a picture may be worth a thousand words (and this is the same >argument the guy who works for me made), how many people do you know who >communicate by pictures? Sure, it sounds nice to say that a picture is >such an efficient messaging mechanism, but how often do you actually find >yourself drawing someone a picture to explain something? > >I don't buy it. > >For most messages, text works fine and is the most efficient >mechanism. For some messages, pictures do the job, but I would say not >nearly as often as words. Why do you think Pictionary and Charades and >such are games? Because images are usually not the most efficient way to >get a message across. > >>misc ramblings: i suppose you skeptical forkers would have said the same >>thing about '1 hour photo' processing. trivial, who needs it, i get better >>resultion elswhere. and yet, it had great decentralizing impact - the >plant >>had to be downsized and pushed to the retail operation - the digital >camera, >>and finally the integrated digital camera phone brings this cycle of >>decentralization in photography to a logical conclusion (which will put the >>photo giants to bed) and change the world in a meaningful way. also, SMS >>didn't take off because its easy, it took off because it costs less. its >>greatly ironic the carriers often trumpet the 'profitabilty' of their SMS >>traffic over others because of its ratio of cost to bandwidth. in reality, >>SMS cannibilizes the voice rev's they bought their networks to handle. > >Again, this is the same argument my colleague made (along with ""you just >don't understand kids today, and they'll run with this""). I wasn't saying >that MMS wouldn't take off because it wasn't high quality or that it wasn't >easy. I was saying that I couldn't see why people would use it in a way >that ""changed the face of communications"". > >I'm looking for the compelling reason (even if it's a stupid one) why >people would want to do this. Sure, if they integrate cameras into the >phone, and the quality improves (even only marginally) I can certainly see >people taking pictures with their cameras and occasionally sending them to >other people. But, mostly, I don't see what the benefit is to this over >sending them to someone's email address, or putting together an online (or >offline) photoalbum. > >I don't think 1 hour photos are trivial. People want to see their own pics >right away, and the quality is plenty good enough for snapshots. That's >one of the main reasons why digital cameras are catching on. The instant >view part. I'm guessing your argument is that people not only want >""instant view"", but also ""instant show"". Which is what this service >offers. I'm not convinced that most people want ""instant show"". I think >people like to package their pictures and show them. That's why people put >together fancy albums, and sit there and force you to go through them while >they explain every picture. Sure, occasionally ""instant show"" is nice, but >it's just ""nice"" on occasion. I still can't see how it becomes a integral >messaging method. > >What's the specific benefit of taking a picture and immediately sending it >from one phone to another? There has to be *some* benefit, even if it's >silly if people are going to flock to it. > >I'm searching... no one has given me a straight answer yet. > >The *only* really intriguing idea I've heard about things like MMS lately >are Dan Gillmor's assertion that one day in the near future some news event >will happen, and a bunch of people will snap pictures with their mobile >phones, from all different angles, and those photos tell the real story of >what happened - before the press even gets there. > >Willing to be proven wrong, >Mike > >PS If the wireless carriers continue to price these services as stupidly as >they currently are, then MMS is *never* going to catch on.",0 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Thu Jul 25 11:01:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6836440D3 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:01:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OLWu409182 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:32:56 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAC33EACF; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142923EB08 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6OLViQ24849 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:31:44 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6OLViR24842 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:31:44 -0400 Received: from austin-jump.vircio.com (IDENT:7jf6k3NCD1qDx0vP6kn1aP5G39cGPx8L@jump-austin.vircio.com [192.12.3.99]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6OLK0s09807 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:20:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 31684 invoked by uid 104); 24 Jul 2002 21:31:43 -0000 Received: from cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com by localhost.localdomain with qmail-scanner-0.90 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4213. . 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Processed in 0.330578 secs); 24/07/2002 16:31:42 Received: from deepeddy.vircio.com ([10.1.2.1]) (envelope-sender ) by austin-jump.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2002 21:31:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 760 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2002 21:31:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2002 21:31:42 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: [fwd: error exmh 2.5 07/13/2001 ] X-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg X-Image-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/chris.gif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""==_Exmh_566017948P""; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Garrigues Message-Id: <1027546301.610.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.57 Reply-To: Chris Garrigues X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:31:40 -0500 --==_Exmh_566017948P Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=""----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0"" Content-Id: <524.1027546300.0@deepeddy.com> ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Content-ID: <524.1027546300.1@deepeddy.com> Am I the only one for whom typing control-L to the main window causes this error? 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Chris ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-ID: <524.1027546300.2@deepeddy.com> Content-Description: forwarded message Return-Path: Delivered-To: cwg-exmh@deepeddy.com Received: (qmail 17767 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2002 21:29:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jul 2002 21:29:14 -0000 To: cwg-exmh@deepeddy.com Subject: error exmh 2.5 07/13/2001 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:29:12 -0500 From: Chris Garrigues Message-ID: <1027546154.17532.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.57 Wed Jul 24 16:29:12 CDT 2002 cwg got an error Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 TK version 8.3.3 TCL version 8.3.3 Linux deepeddy.vircio.com 2.4.18-ac2v5 #1 SMP Sun Mar 31 07:41:15 CST 2002 i686 unknown bad text index ""header + 1 line"" while executing ""$t index ""header + 1 line"""" (procedure ""SeditBeautify"" line 3) invoked from within ""SeditBeautify .msg.t"" (command bound to event) ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Content-ID: <524.1027546300.3@deepeddy.com> -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 716 Congress, Suite 200 Austin, TX 78701 +1 512 374 0500 World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- --==_Exmh_566017948P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE9Pxy8K9b4h5R0IUIRAnOgAJ0Uw/GSsuOnUXG7x5WtJOJIYYweqgCghNc3 9HJtUPNX1D90p7rGch2Ry38= =0Che -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_566017948P-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Sep 11 19:42:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FA416F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:42:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:42:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BFdKC21045 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:39:21 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0F32940FB; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-mx1.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.36]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A3F29409A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Tycho (dhcp-63-177.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.63.177]) by cats.ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id g8BFbsq13928 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:37:54 -0700 (PDT) From: ""Jim Whitehead"" To: Subject: RE: Microsoft buys XDegress - more of a p2p/distributed data thing... Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <029801c25960$db348560$640a000a@golden> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-Ucsc-Cats-Mailscanner: Found to be clean Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:35:31 -0700 XDegrees was at the WebDAV Interoperability Testing Event last year, so there may be some DAV under the hood there someplace. - Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com]On Behalf Of > Gordon Mohr > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:00 AM > To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org > Subject: Re: Microsoft buys XDegress - more of a p2p/distributed data > thing... > > > Mr. FoRK writes: > > ""Files can be cached on multiple systems randomly scattered around the > > Internet, as with Napster or Freenet. In fact, the caching in > XDegrees is > > more sophisticated than it is on those systems: users with high > bandwidth > > connections can download portions, or ""stripes,"" of a file from several > > cached locations simultaneously. The XDegrees software then reassembles > > these stripes into the whole file and uses digital signatures > to verify that > > the downloaded file is the same as the original. A key component of this > > digital signature is a digest of the file, which is stored as > an HTTP header > > for the file."" > > This ""more sophisticated than [Napster or Freenet]"" part seems > to be the same behavior implemented in many other P2P CDNs, > such as: > > - Kazaa > - EDonkey/Overnet > - BitTorrent > - Gnutella (with HUGE extensions) > - OnionNetworks WebRAID > > ...though the quality of the ""digest"" used by each system varies > wildly. > > - Gordon >",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Jul 19 14:32:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9310B43FAD for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:32:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDUlJ32430 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:30:47 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07130; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:30:09 +0100 Received: from roeex01.renre-europe.com ([62.17.152.2]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07103 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:30:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [62.17.152.2] claimed to be roeex01.renre-europe.com Received: from localhost.localdomain (ThisAddressDoesNotExist [172.17.1.250]) by roeex01.renre-europe.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PGQ2R2QQ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:54:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [ILUG] How to copy some files From: Mark Kilmartin To: ilug@linux.ie In-Reply-To: <20020719132842.GA2506@bagend.makalumedia.com> References: <20020719132842.GA2506@bagend.makalumedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7 Date: 19 Jul 2002 14:29:34 +0100 Message-Id: <1027085376.4944.9.camel@klein> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie How about rsync. It doesn't only work for remote files. MArk On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 14:28, Niall O Broin wrote: > I have about 60G of data which I need to copy from one disk to another. > However, I'm not sure how I should best copy it. The problem is the bulk of > the data is images and most of these image have two directory entries i.e. > there is a hard link to each file. If I copy them using cp -a or my usual > favourite of find .|cpio -pmd other_dir it's going to copy each file twice, > which is not what I want. dump / restore would take care of this if the > source filesystem wasn't reiserfs :-( Any suggestions ? > > > Niall > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. > List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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return 0; +; return 0; } EOF -if (eval ""$ac_cpp conftest.$ac_ext"") 2>&5 | - egrep ""SHUT_RD"" >/dev/null 2>&1; then +if { (eval echo configure:1283: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then rm -rf conftest* shutrd=yes else + echo ""configure: failed program was:"" >&5 + cat conftest.$ac_ext >&5 rm -rf conftest* shutrd=no fi -rm -f conftest* - +rm -f conftest*, fi @@ -1298,7 +1302,7 @@ echo $ac_n ""checking for socket in -lsocket""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1302: checking for socket in -lsocket"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1306: checking for socket in -lsocket"" >&5 ac_lib_var=`echo socket'_'socket | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'` if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 @@ -1306,7 +1310,7 @@ ac_save_LIBS=""$LIBS"" LIBS=""-lsocket $LIBS"" cat > conftest.$ac_ext <&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then +if { (eval echo configure:1325: \""$ac_link\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then rm -rf conftest* eval ""ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes"" else @@ -1345,7 +1349,7 @@ fi echo $ac_n ""checking for connect in -linet""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1349: checking for connect in -linet"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1353: checking for connect in -linet"" >&5 ac_lib_var=`echo inet'_'connect | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'` if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 @@ -1353,7 +1357,7 @@ ac_save_LIBS=""$LIBS"" LIBS=""-linet $LIBS"" cat > conftest.$ac_ext <&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then +if { (eval echo configure:1372: \""$ac_link\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then rm -rf conftest* eval ""ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes"" else @@ -1392,7 +1396,7 @@ fi echo $ac_n ""checking for t_accept in -lnsl""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1396: checking for t_accept in -lnsl"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1400: checking for t_accept in -lnsl"" >&5 ac_lib_var=`echo nsl'_'t_accept | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'` if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 @@ -1400,7 +1404,7 @@ ac_save_LIBS=""$LIBS"" LIBS=""-lnsl $LIBS"" cat > conftest.$ac_ext <&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then +if { (eval echo configure:1419: \""$ac_link\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then rm -rf conftest* eval ""ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes"" else @@ -1439,7 +1443,7 @@ fi echo $ac_n ""checking for dlopen in -ldl""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1443: checking for dlopen in -ldl"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1447: checking for dlopen in -ldl"" >&5 ac_lib_var=`echo dl'_'dlopen | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'` if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 @@ -1447,7 +1451,7 @@ ac_save_LIBS=""$LIBS"" LIBS=""-ldl $LIBS"" cat > conftest.$ac_ext <&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then +if { (eval echo configure:1466: \""$ac_link\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then rm -rf conftest* eval ""ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes"" else @@ -1489,12 +1493,12 @@ for ac_func in socket strdup strtod strtol snprintf shutdown do echo $ac_n ""checking for $ac_func""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1493: checking for $ac_func"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1497: checking for $ac_func"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'ac_cv_func_$ac_func'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext <&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then +if { (eval echo configure:1525: \""$ac_link\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then rm -rf conftest* eval ""ac_cv_func_$ac_func=yes"" else @@ -1544,20 +1548,20 @@ echo $ac_n ""checking for h_errno""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1548: checking for h_errno"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1552: checking for h_errno"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'herrno'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext < int main() { printf (""%d"", h_errno); return 0; ; return 0; } EOF -if { (eval echo configure:1561: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then +if { (eval echo configure:1565: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then rm -rf conftest* herrno=yes else @@ -1580,20 +1584,20 @@ echo $ac_n ""checking for optarg""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1584: checking for optarg"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1588: checking for optarg"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'haveoptarg'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext < int main() { if (optarg == (char *) 0L) { return 0; } return 1; ; return 0; } EOF -if { (eval echo configure:1597: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then +if { (eval echo configure:1601: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then rm -rf conftest* haveoptarg=yes else @@ -1616,20 +1620,21 @@ echo $ac_n ""checking for in_addr_t""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1620: checking for in_addr_t"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1624: checking for in_addr_t"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'inaddrt'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext < #include int main() { in_addr_t foo; return 0; ; return 0; } EOF -if { (eval echo configure:1633: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then +if { (eval echo configure:1638: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then rm -rf conftest* inaddrt=yes else @@ -1645,12 +1650,12 @@ echo ""$ac_t""""$inaddrt"" 1>&6 if test $inaddrt = no ; then echo $ac_n ""checking for in_addr_t""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1649: checking for in_addr_t"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1654: checking for in_addr_t"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'ac_cv_type_in_addr_t'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext < #if STDC_HEADERS @@ -1681,20 +1686,21 @@ echo $ac_n ""checking for INADDR_NONE""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1685: checking for INADDR_NONE"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1690: checking for INADDR_NONE"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'haveinaddrnone'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext < #include int main() { in_addr_t foo = INADDR_NONE; return 0; ; return 0; } EOF -if { (eval echo configure:1698: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then +if { (eval echo configure:1704: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then rm -rf conftest* haveinaddrnone=yes else @@ -1717,20 +1723,23 @@ echo $ac_n ""checking for EX__MAX""""... $ac_c"" 1>&6 -echo ""configure:1721: checking for EX__MAX"" >&5 +echo ""configure:1727: checking for EX__MAX"" >&5 if eval ""test \""`echo '$''{'haveexmax'+set}'`\"" = set""; then echo $ac_n ""(cached) $ac_c"" 1>&6 else cat > conftest.$ac_ext < +#endif #include int main() { int foo = EX__MAX; return 0; ; return 0; } EOF -if { (eval echo configure:1734: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then +if { (eval echo configure:1743: \""$ac_compile\"") 1>&5; (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5; }; then rm -rf conftest* haveexmax=yes else Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.1.2.1 retrieving revision 1.1.2.2 diff -b -w -u -d -r1.1.2.1 -r1.1.2.2 --- configure.in 27 Aug 2002 23:07:13 -0000 1.1.2.1 +++ configure.in 28 Aug 2002 23:29:04 -0000 1.1.2.2 @@ -26,9 +26,11 @@ AC_CACHE_CHECK([for SHUT_RD], shutrd, [ - AC_EGREP_HEADER(SHUT_RD, sys/socket.h, + AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include +#include ], + [printf (""%d"", SHUT_RD); return 0;], [shutrd=yes], - [shutrd=no]) + [shutrd=no]), ]) if test $shutrd = yes ; then AC_DEFINE(HAVE_SHUT_RD) @@ -73,7 +75,8 @@ AC_CACHE_CHECK([for in_addr_t], inaddrt, [ - AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include ], + AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include +#include ], [in_addr_t foo; return 0;], [inaddrt=yes], [inaddrt=no]), @@ -86,7 +89,8 @@ AC_CACHE_CHECK([for INADDR_NONE], haveinaddrnone, [ - AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include ], + AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include +#include ], [in_addr_t foo = INADDR_NONE; return 0;], [haveinaddrnone=yes], [haveinaddrnone=no]), @@ -99,7 +103,10 @@ AC_CACHE_CHECK([for EX__MAX], haveexmax, [ - AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include ], + AC_TRY_COMPILE([#ifdef HAVE_SYSEXITS_H +#include +#endif +#include ], [int foo = EX__MAX; return 0;], [haveexmax=yes], [haveexmax=no]), ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing real-time communications platform! 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    ",1 "Return-Path: ilug-admin@linux.ie Delivery-Date: Sat Jul 27 18:02:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RH2oi11099 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:02:50 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23208; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:01:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.18]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23172 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:01:12 +0100 Message-Id: <200207271701.SAA23172@lugh.tuatha.org> Received: (qmail 6320 messnum 30063 invoked from network[159.134.159.50/p306.as1.drogheda1.eircom.net]); 27 Jul 2002 17:00:40 -0000 Received: from p306.as1.drogheda1.eircom.net (HELO there) (159.134.159.50) by mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 6320) with SMTP; 27 Jul 2002 17:00:40 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: John Gay To: kevin lyda Subject: Re: [ILUG] Optimizing for Pentium Pt.2 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:58:12 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200207262228.XAA19581@lugh.tuatha.org> <20020727015716.A6561@ie.suberic.net> In-Reply-To: <20020727015716.A6561@ie.suberic.net> Cc: ilug@linux.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-BeenThere: ilug@linux.ie On Sat 27 Jul 2002 01:57, you wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:24:30PM +0100, John Gay wrote: > > A while ago I asked what other packages I should optomize for Pentium. > > One person answered GlibC. This got me thinking about GCC itself, so I > > asked on another list and got a few answers, most were ""don't even think > > about it"" but a few suggested GCC and one pointed me to Linux From > > Scratch. > > why? > > or more specifically, what do you mean? on one hand you can optimise > how gcc is compiled. all that will do is make it generate the exact > same code just a smidge faster. and since gcc is such a memory pig, > you'd do better to buy more ram to up your fs cache hits and to keep > gcc's heap out of swap. > To explain what I mean: According to the PGCC site, GCC by itself is not very good at taking advantage of the pipelining features introduced with the Pentium family. The PGCC patches are supposed to make GCC generate tighter code, but your point about compiler bugs is well taken. This is why I am taking things slow and looking into these things. As Isaid, the PGCC site does not seem to have been updated in at least a year or more?!? I am also looking into GCC itself. Now that the 3.1. series is out, it might be better than when the PGCC patches were written. The bottom line is, Pentiums have better instruction sets than the original 386 instructions that they still support. The Pentium also started introducing pipelining so properly generated code can be upto 30% faster than equivulent code that performs the same function! As for why optimise GCC if it will only produce that same code only slightly faster? The speed is based on a percentage of the total compile time. The first time I compiled the qt libs, with only 16M and a LOT of swap, it took over 48 hours. I've now got 128M in the box but at 200Mhz any increase, distributed over such a long compile is still considerable. > on the other side you can look into patches to gcc that affect it's > code generation. um, ok, but keep in mind that compiler errors suck. > i can't express that enough. compilers should just work. perfectly. > always. doing anything that might affect that is, in my opinion, insane. > they're hard to trace and you'd better have a deep knowledge of what's > going on to either report bugs to the patch developers or to fix it > yourself. plus my understanding is that gcc would need major changes > to get large speed boosts on x86 chips. > My understanding, and I've followed the development of the Intel family since the 8080, each generation since the 386 has introduced better and faster instructions. I.E.: The 486 introduced I.E.E.E floating point instructions by incorporating an FPU on board. The first few generations were flaky, so Intel disabled the dodgy ones and sold then as 486SX, I.E. without the FPU. Later generations were better, this is why you only find slow 486SX's ;-) Therefore 486's, with working FPU's can calculate floats faster than 386's, but you must generate the proper codes to take advantage of this. The Pentium's improved the FPU logic and introduced pipelining. The first generations of Pentiums had faulty FPu logic programmed into them, the Pentium Bug, but subsequent ones were fine. These added instructions are faster again then the 486 equivulents. Also, the pipelining needs careful instruction ordering to take full advantage of it's speed improvements, again, something the compiler must know about to utilise to full effect. According the the PGCC site GCC does this poorly, but that info seems to be dated, GCC3.1.x might be better. This is one of the areas I am researching closely to get an answer. MMX added the ability to perform matrix calculations on int's with single instructions and using special DMA features within the Pentium to speed this up. Two problems with this: 1) int's are not very useful for most matrix calculations, floats would be betters. 2) this is not something that can be optimised well by a compiler. It need to be identified and provided for in the sources. I.E. not much use to anyone, but makes great ad copy ;-) The PentiumPro improved the pipeline enormously. Again, a properly written compiler should be able to optimise for this, once it can organise the code properly. The PIII added MMX-type instructions for floats! Now this IS useful! Graphic-Intensive programs can take greate advantage of this, but it must be provided for in the source code. Compilers can not, usually optimise for this sort of thing. XFree86 and DRI are two prime examples that do provide for this, so the PIII can run XFree86 and DRI quite a bit faster, IF it's compiled for these SSE instructions! Not sure what improvements the P4 introduce? I think it's mostly just speed improvements rather than any execution changes. So, The difference between the 386 and the PentiumMMX 'should' yield a significant speed boost if optimised correctly. There are faster floating point instructions and pipelining that need optimising for. I'm not sure if GCC can optimise properly for the pipelining, at least the PGCC group found significant improvements to add to GCC2.95.3 to gain speed improvements of upto 30%. 30% of 48 hours is 14.4 hours. Of course none of this will have any effect on O/I bound processes but GUI's are mostly CPU bound. I am also finding out about object pre-linking optimisations which should give even better performance for QT and KDE. Now if I had another PIII for my box, I could take advantage of those SSE instructions to optimise XFree86 as well! > kevin An, of course, I've loads of time on my hands now and I need something to keep me busy. At least I can say that I've sucessfully built a full Linux system, including KDE3 from scratch when I'm done ;-) Cheers, John Gay -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:24:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA18C16F69 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:23:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:23:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9381VK19994 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:01:31 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030801.g9381VK19994@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: boingboing Subject: Don't do the brown WiFi, the brown WiFi is BAD Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:01:31 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://boingboing.net/#85515860 Date: Not supplied Rob ""Pringles Can"" Flickenger and others at the O'Reilly OS X con have tracked down the cause of the annoying flakiness in the wireless network here -- every 20 or 30 seconds, you start getting ""connection refused"" messages from your browser and other net-utilities. It turns out that running the great network-spy app Etherpeg[1] (or other ""promiscuous"" network sniffers) and the built-in firewall in OS X at the same time causes your computer to begin intercepting every packet sent out on your segment of the wireless network and respond to it with a ""rejected"" message. So today, Rob (and everyone else who knows about this) is going to run around and tell people running Etherpeg to _turn off the firewall_ (and vice-versa). Ah, fickle networking, you are such a stern mistress! Link[2] Don't do the brown WiFi, the brown WiFi is BAD (_Thanks, Rob!_) [1] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/1414 [2] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2086",0 "From newsletters@the-financial-news.com Mon Jun 24 17:03:16 2002 Return-Path: newsletters@the-financial-news.com Delivery-Date: Sun May 12 12:28:25 2002 Received: from wtnserver (80-25-218-178.uc.nombres.ttd.es [80.25.218.178]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4CBSMe10393 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 12:28:23 +0100 Received: from EI2 by wtnserver with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.2.R) for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 13:21:37 +0200 From: ""The Financial News"" Subject: Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program To: zban@taint.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 13:19:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-Library: Indy 8.0.22 X-MDRCPT-To: zban@taint.org X-Return-Path: newsletters@the-financial-news.com X-Mdaemon-Deliver-To: zban@taint.org Reply-To: newsletters@the-financial-news.com Message-Id: X-Keywords: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=""=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf""; This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Financial News, May 2002 Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program =22...Science Network will supply to countries and developing regions the technology and the necessary support for the production in series of Mini-plants in mobile=20containers (40-foot). The Mini-plant system is designed in such a way that all the production machinery is fixed on the platform of the container, with all wiring,=20piping, and installation parts; that is to say, they are fully equipped... and the mini-plant is ready for production.=22 More than 700 portable production systems: Bakeries, Steel Nails, Welding Electrodes, Tire Retreading, Reinforcement Bar Bending for Construction Framework,=20Sheeting for Roofing, Ceilings and Fa=E7ades, Plated Drums, Aluminum Buckets, Injected Polypropylene Housewares, Pressed Melamine Items (Glasses, Cups,=20Plates, Mugs, etc.), Mufflers, Construction Electrically Welded Mesh, Plastic Bags and Packaging, Mobile units of medical assistance, Sanitary Material,=20Hypodermic Syringes, Hemostatic Clamps, etc.=20 Science Network has started a process of Co-investment for the installation of small Assembly plants to manufacture in series the Mini-plants of portable=20production on the site, region or country where they may be required. One of the most relevant features is the fact that these plants will be connected to the World=20Trade System (WTS) with access to more than 50 million raw materials, products and services and automatic transactions for world trade. Because of financial reasons, involving cost and social impact, the right thing to do is to set up assembly plants in the same countries and regions, using local=20resources (labor, some equipment, etc.) For more information: Mini-plants in mobile containers By Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles. Programa de Co-inversion =22...Science Network suministrara a paises y regiones en vias de desarrollo la tecnologia y el apoyo necesario para la fabricacion en serie de Mini-plantas de=20produccion en contenedores moviles (40-foot). El sistema de mini-plantas esta dise=F1ado de forma que todas las maquinas de produccion van instaladas fijas=20sobre la propia plataforma del contenedor, con el cableado, tuberias e instalaciones; es decir, completamente equipadas... y a partir de ese momento est=E1n listas=20para producir.=22=20 Mas de 700 sistemas de produccion portatil: Panaderias, Producci=F3n de clavos de acero, Electrodos para soldadura, Recauchutado de neumaticos, Curvado de=20hierro para armaduras de construccion, Lamina perfilada para cubiertas, techos y cerramientos de fachada, Bidones de chapa, Cubos de aluminio, Menaje de=20polipropileno inyectado, Piezas de melamina prensada (vasos, platos, tazas, cafeteras, etc.) Silenciadores para vehiculos, Malla electrosoldada para la=20construccion, Bolsas y envases de plastico, Unidades moviles de asistencia medica, Material sanitario (jeringas hipodermicas, Pinzas hemostaticas, etc.) Science Network ha puesto en marcha un proceso de Co-inversion para la instalacion de peque=F1as Plantas ensambladoras para fabricar en serie las Mini-plantas=20de produccion portatil, en el lugar, region o pais que lo necesite. Una de las caracter=EDsticas relevantes es el hecho de que dichas plantas quedaran conectadas al=20Sistema del Comercio Mundial (WTS) con acceso a mas de 50 millones de mercancias, materia primas, productos, servicios y las operaciones automaticas de=20comercio internacional.=20 Resulta obvio que por razones economicas, de costes y de impacto social, lo apropiado es instalar plantas ensambladoras en los mismos paises y regiones asi=20como utilizar los recursos locales (mano de obra, ciertos equipamientos, etc.) Para recibir mas infromacion: Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you received this in error or would like to be removed from our list, please return us indicating: remove or un-subscribe in 'subject' field, Thanks. Editor =A9 2002 The Financial News. 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    The Financial News, May 2002

    Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program

    =22...Science Network will supply to countries and developing regions the technology and the necessary support for the production in series of Mini-plants in mobile containers (40-foot). The Mini-plant system is designed in such a way that all the production machinery is fixed on the platform of the container, with all wiring, piping, and installation parts; that is to say, they are fully equipped... and the mini-plant is ready for production.=22

    More than 700 portable production systems: Bakeries, Steel Nails, Welding Electrodes, Tire Retreading, Reinforcement Bar Bending for Construction Framework, Sheeting for Roofing, Ceilings and Façades, Plated Drums, Aluminum Buckets, Injected Polypropylene Housewares, Pressed Melamine Items (Glasses, Cups, Plates, Mugs, etc.), Mufflers, Construction Electrically Welded Mesh, Plastic Bags and Packaging, Mobile units of medical assistance, Sanitary Material, Hypodermic Syringes, Hemostatic Clamps, etc.

    Science Network has started a process of Co-investment for the installation of small Assembly plants to manufacture in series the Mini-plants of portable production on the site, region or country where they may be required. One of the most relevant features is the fact that these plants will be connected to the World Trade System (WTS) with access to more than 50 million raw materials, products and services and automatic transactions for world trade.

    Because of financial reasons, involving cost and social impact, the right thing to do is to set up assembly plants in the same countries and regions, using local resources (labor, some equipment, etc.)

    For more information: Mini-plants in mobile containers

    By Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor


    Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles. Programa de Co-inversion

    =22...Science Network suministrara a paises y regiones en vias de desarrollo la tecnologia y el apoyo necesario para la fabricacion en serie de Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles (40-foot). El sistema de mini-plantas esta diseñado de forma que todas las maquinas de produccion van instaladas fijas sobre la propia plataforma del contenedor, con el cableado, tuberias e instalaciones; es decir, completamente equipadas... y a partir de ese momento están listas para producir.=22

    Mas de 700 sistemas de produccion portatil: Panaderias, Producción de clavos de acero, Electrodos para soldadura, Recauchutado de neumaticos, Curvado de hierro para armaduras de construccion, Lamina perfilada para cubiertas, techos y cerramientos de fachada, Bidones de chapa, Cubos de aluminio, Menaje de polipropileno inyectado, Piezas de melamina prensada (vasos, platos, tazas, cafeteras, etc.) Silenciadores para vehiculos, Malla electrosoldada para la construccion, Bolsas y envases de plastico, Unidades moviles de asistencia medica, Material sanitario (jeringas hipodermicas, Pinzas hemostaticas, etc.)

    Science Network ha puesto en marcha un proceso de Co-inversion para la instalacion de pequeñas Plantas ensambladoras para fabricar en serie las Mini-plantas de produccion portatil, en el lugar, region o pais que lo necesite. Una de las características relevantes es el hecho de que dichas plantas quedaran conectadas al Sistema del Comercio Mundial (WTS) con acceso a mas de 50 millones de mercancias, materia primas, productos, servicios y las operaciones automaticas de comercio internacional.

    Resulta obvio que por razones economicas, de costes y de impacto social, lo apropiado es instalar plantas ensambladoras en los mismos paises y regiones asi como utilizar los recursos locales (mano de obra, ciertos equipamientos, etc.)

    Para recibir mas infromacion: Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles

    Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    If you received this in error or would like to be removed from our list, please return us indicating: remove or un-subscribe in 'subject' field, Thanks. Editor
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     --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf--",1 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Sep 10 11:22:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4A116F03 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:22:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:22:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89LqYC01056 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:52:34 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17oWM7-0004YZ-00; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:46:03 -0700 Received: from [208.48.139.185] (helo=forty.greenhydrant.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17oWL9-0002FQ-00 for ; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:45:03 -0700 Received: (qmail 28567 invoked by uid 501); 9 Sep 2002 21:44:57 -0000 From: David Rees To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Razor-users] log problem Message-Id: <20020909144457.A28394@greenhydrant.com> Mail-Followup-To: David Rees , razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020909170821.01d096c8@mailhost.disaster.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020909170821.01d096c8@mailhost.disaster.com>; from rob@darkphyber.com on Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 05:10:23PM -0400 Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:44:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:44:57 -0700 On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 05:10:23PM -0400, Rob wrote: > I just set up razor and spamassassin, but I keep getting this error in my > mail log file > > razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method ""log"" on > unblessed reference at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 212. > > I have looked through the archived list and the only thing I have seen > about this error is a possible permission problem on the log file. Yeah, the answer isn't here in this list, it's on the spamassassin-users list. I just asked it late last week. Hint: Add -H to the spamd startup flags using the latest version of spamassassin. -Dave ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? 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Build it in! http://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-Sightings mailing list Spamassassin-Sightings@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-sightings",1 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Thu Oct 3 12:22:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6403D16F16 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:22:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:22:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92N1VK00712 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:01:32 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870D83EBE8; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC323ECDA for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g92N10M15340 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:01:00 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g92N10f15334 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:01:00 -0400 Received: from dimebox.bmc.com (adsl-66-140-152-233.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [66.140.152.233]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g92Mg5i19652 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:42:05 -0400 Received: by dimebox.bmc.com (Postfix, from userid 1205) id 126E937EBF; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dimebox.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dimebox.bmc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8637EBE for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:00:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 cvs 10/01/2002 with nmh-1.0.4 In-Reply-To: <22745.1033456497@munnari.OZ.AU> References: <3703.1033415613@dimebox.bmc.com> <20020930185727.5ACA84A3@gray.impulse.net> <22745.1033456497@munnari.OZ.AU> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Elz message dated ""Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:14:57 +0700."" To: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Working My_Mark2CurSeen MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hal DeVore X-Image-Url: http://www.geocities.com/hal_devore_ii/haleye48.gif Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <16828.1033599653@dimebox.bmc.com> X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 18:00:53 -0500 [I wrote this last night but it appears I never sent it... still haven't had time to dig in to it...] >>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, ""Robert"" == Robert Elz wrote: Robert> No, but using PickMarkSeen (and pick(ids)) as an Robert> alternative to just doing Robert> Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results Ah. Neither Ted nor I were particularly up to date. I pulled down the lates from CVS and am now running with it. I miss the blue ftoc lines but I'll sort that out soon, iirc Chris said it's a simple resource change. Ted's code to ""ketchup"" made use of some of the procs that went away in the sequence generalization. I've fixed it up... almost and it looks like this now: proc Cabeen_Mark2CurSeen {} { global exmh mhProfile msg set results {} Exmh_Status ""Clearing unseen up to cur..."" red Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msg(id) set unseen [Mh_Sequence $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) ] foreach elem $unseen { if { $elem <= $msg(id) } { lappend results $elem } } busy Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results Exmh_Status ok blue } The ""almost"" is because it's not updating the highlighting on the ftoc. I'm too tired to go figure out how to fix that just now and have to move on to other stuff. If someone wants to forward me a clue feel free. Now that I've got all of Chris' sequence stuff I discovered that my sequences are ... cluttered. --Hal _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 22 18:41:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E307F47C68 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:41:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MHbqZ17896 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:37:52 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17hvtH-0003kF-00; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:37:03 -0700 Received: from neo.pittstate.edu ([198.248.208.13]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17hvsH-0008RU-00 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:36:01 -0700 Received: from [198.248.208.11] (macdaddy.pittstate.edu [198.248.208.11]) by neo.pittstate.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7MHZLW7031540; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:35:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020822171604.GB16421@kluge.net> References: <200208221905.33723@malte.stretz.eu.org> <20020822171604.GB16421@kluge.net> To: Theo Van Dinter , ""Malte S. Stretz"" From: Justin Shore Subject: Re: [SAtalk] 2800 sightings this month Cc: SpamAssassin Talk ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" ; format=""flowed"" Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:35:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:35:46 -0500 At 1:16 PM -0400 8/22/02, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:05:33PM +0200, Malte S. Stretz wrote: >> Ummm... has somebody noticed that spamassassin-sightings is the fourth most >> active list for this month on [1]? 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For example, the simplest Chinese IM is Pinyin where you phonetically spell out each character using the pinyin romanisation rules. For example, Zhong Guo (Chinese for China) is entered by typing 'zhong', then you're prompted with a list of possible matches, with the most common first in a numbered list, so you hit, say, 2 for the second in the list, then similarly for 'guo' 3. You can see, that, regarding keystroke counts, it's not that much different to English. However, until you get familiar with the sorting order in the 'possible match' lists, it can be a little slow. Other input methods are more keystroke-efficient, losing the phonetic simplicity of Pinyin. Chinese characters are almost always pronounced as a first-part-second-part, so zhong is 'zh'-'ong'. One input method assigns single letters to the possible first and second parts, so 'i' might represent 'zh' as a first part and 'ong' as a second part, so you'd enter zhong as 'ii' and a digit to choose from the possible matches. I think the Microsoft Global IME has a 'stroke' mode where you can build up a character stroke by stroke, but you'd only use that when you know the character you want but you don't know how to pronounce it. > > some XIMs compose ""in place"", others do it on a special line, > and some seem to do it in a special window (or the root?). > also, some(/most?) XIMs apparently support a US-ASCII input > mode as well --- _not_ a general Latin-alphabet input mode, > which seems to require another TLA, called KBD, and which > apparently doesn't work when an XIM is also being used? --- > implying you have to switch back and forth between US-ASCII > input mode (what us English-speakers would call ""normal"" > keyboarding/typing), and the other input (e.g., Chinese). > I'm not sure, but I have the impression the switch is often > a toggle, and something like . Probably most often Ctrl-Space. That's what the Microsoft Global Input Method Editor uses and what xcin uses IIRC. Regarding the original poster's question - here's what works for me on Red Hat 7.2 o Make sure the xcin and ttfonts-zh_CN RPMs are installed. (The fonts might not be essential, I think XFree comes with usuable Chinese fonts in the XFree86-fonts RPMs o Select Chinese (Simplified) as the language in GDM when logging in. Everything should 'just work'. If you've got the default clock in your GNOME panel, you should now see it in Chinese. A lot of the menus will also be in Chinese, but you should be able to find your way around. Use Ctrl-Space to toggle between Chinese and English input. When in Chinese mode Shift-Space toggles between something that I don't understand, but it blocks exiting to English. So if you can't use Ctrl-Space to get back to English, try hitting Shift-Space, Ctrl-Space. Fire up a GNOME terminal. In Chinese mode, type zhong 1 guo 1 and you'll see the Chinese for China. Getting this to work while selecting English at the GDM screen is left as an exercise for the reader. Looking at /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput and /usr/share/doc/xcin should give enough info. Later, Kenn -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Jul 25 11:08:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BB0440D8 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:07:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OIsc401600 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:54:38 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F404C29414A; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from dream.darwin.nasa.gov (betlik.darwin.nasa.gov [198.123.160.11]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A6C29414A for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cse.ucsc.edu (paperweight.darwin.nasa.gov [198.123.160.27]) by dream.darwin.nasa.gov ( -- Info omitted by ASANI Solutions, LLC.) with ESMTP id g6OIqMg06645 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3D3EF738.3050704@cse.ucsc.edu> From: Elias Sinderson Reply-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020611 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: [Baseline] Raising chickens the high-tech way References: <135.11be3f63.2a7000bc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:51:36 -0700 Sorry, Karl, your confusing things. Thos is saying that selective breeding should be counted as genetic engineering, whereas you are extending his definition to include the attration that your parents felt... Unless your parents were selectively bred like livestock to produce you, I don't think you can make that case... :-) Elias Karl Anderson wrote: >ThosStew@aol.com writes: > >>Of course was genetic engineering. It used the fundamental mechanism of >>genetics (inheritance of traits), and not randomly, but >>intentionally--breeding for long fur, fat hams, whatever. 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Yeah yeah yeah. I tried it (over a year ago) and it sucked like a new vacuum cleaner. Although I expect that it will be a lot better by now. What I would really like to see is Gnome on one of the Sun Ray thin terminals. > Out of curiosity, does `normal fashion` mean that you still have to do the > interactive customisations or is it like Solaris jumpstart where you can > specify everything on the install server, do `boot net - install` go home, and > come in to a fully installed and patched desktop the next morning? Er, I mean normal fashion for a Linux install. This would be distro specific, anyway. I am sure it would be possible to do an automated install with a few script changes. I would not be surprised if Debian does this already. I do know that if you pass extra parameters on the boot command, they are picked up by silo. So: boot disk linux would not prompt for selection but would boot straight through. From there it is a matter of tftp'ing the correct config file and the install would be automatic from there on. > I don't see why this should be a _major problem. The prom (ie the ""ok"" > prompt) > is almost at the hardware level and hence dosent depend on the os so you > should be able to connect to that easily enough. Once the machine is installed > cant you just log in over the network? The network is the computer after all > (sorry couldn't resist!) The problem is that the time between linux booting and when the console tty drivers are started can be a black hole, without error messages or log in prompts. The other problem is that sometimes Linux will drop in to the PROM on shutdown instead of powering off or rebooting. Without a serial cable or keyboard it is not possible to reboot the box without flicking the power switch hidden at the back of the case. I think if the console is ttya/ttyS0 it will drop into PROM. 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A war with Iraq could really kill 'em: While aggressively adding attractions, Disney boosted its profit by steadily raising admission prices. The strategy worked, helping deliver record profit for Disney year after year. ""The strategy was build, build, build. Every year there was something new,"" said David Koenig, a Disney historian and author. ""It was an astounding growth period.... Now they're overexposed.""... Theme park operating income for Disney this year is expected to fall 27% to $1.16 billion, said Prudential Securities analyst Katherine Styponias. By 2003, she said, the business could climb to $1.49 billion, depending on whether the U.S. goes to war with Iraq. Link[1] Discuss[2] [1] http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-disney6oct06,0,1287712.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dbusiness%2Dmanual [2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/iewxPJy39cF7",0 "From iiu-admin@taint.org Fri Jul 19 15:11:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A58443FB5 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:11:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JE8bJ02842; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:08:38 +0100 Received: from mail.kerna.ie (ns.kerna.ie [194.106.143.66]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JDxLJ02068 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:21 +0100 Received: from ram.kerna.ie (ram.kerna.ie [194.106.143.99]) by mail.kerna.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11795 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from bender.kerna.ie (bender.kerna.ie [192.168.42.133]) by ram.kerna.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07121 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:20 +0100 Received: (from james@localhost) by bender.kerna.ie (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6JDxIT37074 for iiu@taint.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:18 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from james-iiu@now.ie) From: James Raftery To: iiu@taint.org Message-Id: <20020719135918.GD24934@bender.kerna.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [IIU] IE nameserver problems Sender: iiu-admin@taint.org Errors-To: iiu-admin@taint.org X-Beenthere: iiu@iiu.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Irish Internet Users List. See http://iiu.taint.org/ List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:59:18 +0100 Hi, Four of the IE nameservers are publishing out of date DNS information. The four listed below are publishing the IE zone from last Friday. They are six days behind reality. 192.16.202.11 NS.EU.NET. 192.93.0.4 NS2.NIC.FR. 198.133.199.102 GNS1.DOMAINREGISTRY.IE. 198.133.199.103 GNS2.DOMAINREGISTRY.IE. The upshot of this is that correct DNS resolution for IE DNS data that has been added or updated since last Friday is going to be intermittant. If you're lucky your resolver will query one of the five nameservers that are publishing an up-to-date zone. Unfortunately, five out of nine aren't good odds. Don't forget, if you lose the gamble your resolver is going to cache the bad data for up to two days. 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ATB, james _______________________________________________ Irish Internet Users mailing list Irish Internet Users@iiu.taint.org http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 20 11:51:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEE443C3A for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:51:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JMWUZ11875 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:32:30 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32559; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:30:52 +0100 Received: from elivefree.net (mail.elivefree.net [212.120.138.42]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA32525 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:30:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host mail.elivefree.net [212.120.138.42] claimed to be elivefree.net Received: from [213.116.40.178] (HELO elivefree.net) by elivefree.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0001612493 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:30:38 +0100 Message-Id: <3D617173.F806D59D@elivefree.net> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:30:12 +0100 From: Anthony X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: ga, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] hwclock References: <3D60D081.6070008@physics.dcu.ie> <20020819123308.GB1474@calm.mc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie > will have problems though if you use Windows, as it will tell wrong time > for half the year, and will reset the clock when you boot into it after > the change in time (this might be fixed in XP/2000, I don't know). > Even if you set the hwclock to localtime, you will get problems when you > boot into windows, as both Linux and Windows will try to alter the > hwclock (maybe there is a way to suppress windows doing this). > m Hi there, I recently delved into how the linux system clock and the hardware clock interact with each other when I set up ntp on my system while connected to the net. However, I didn't realise that Windows altered the hw clock as there was no mention of it in any of the docs I read. I still dual-boot on a regular basis and if Windows is sneakily messing with the clock, I'd be interested to know in what way it is and how it couild be stopped from doing so. Everything seems to work fine since I set the system up but I still don't like to have these gaps in my knowledge. Regards, Anthony Geoghegan -- The worst sin towards our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them. That is the essence of inhumanity - George Bernard Shaw -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Unfortunately, the plugins are incompatible with the > previous 1.2.x ones, and since not many/all have been ported yet, I > prefer not to release the package on the main freshrpms.net site for > now. You could go the same way as the others and call it gkrellm2 and conflict with v1 if the executables or paths are the same. -- Hey, you're right. I don't want to call a destructor on my objects, I want to call a *destroyer*. Gozer has come for your memory, little PersistentNode! -- Joel Gluth _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Sep 25 10:23:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E2E16F03 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:23:45 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:23:45 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8P80NC18088 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:00:23 +0100 Message-Id: <200209250800.g8P80NC18088@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: scripting Subject: Lance Knobel of Davos Newbies does a quick review of Tony Blair's case agai Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:00:23 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/24#When:4:19:42AM Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:19:42 GMT Lance Knobel[1] of Davos Newbies does a quick review of Tony Blair's case against Sadam Hussein. 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QED. My typical Java-to-C conversion doesn't increase the lines of code by more than 20%, and a fair portion of that is the implementation of additional features that drove us to do the conversion in the first place. Some things are substantially more succinct when written in C than in Java. C and most other mature languages have an endless collection of libraries. I personally don't use anything beyond the core libraries of any language that much though. On a tangent, I find libraries nearly useless for a great many things due primarily to the fact that most of them are so general that a given non-trivial API almost always has a context in which it will function in a pathological manner. Code reuse is wonderful and all that, but libraries frequently make design trade-offs that won't work for me even if they theoretically do exactly what I need. Unfortunately, it isn't particularly easy nor does it make a nice simple API to design a library that really is optimizable to a wide range of design cases. I've built a small collection of flexible psuedo-polymorphic APIs over the years that I tend to use, but it is a pretty ugly solution for code reuse when you get right down to it. -James Rogers jamesr@best.com",0 "From gbarcoe@netnation.ie Mon Jun 24 17:05:41 2002 Return-Path: gbarcoe@netnation.ie Delivery-Date: Tue May 21 16:40:35 2002 Received: from mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com ([213.105.180.140]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4LFeYe15300 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:40:35 +0100 Received: from saffron.via-net-works.ie (saffron.via-net-works.ie [212.17.32.24]) by mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g4LFeXD26655 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:40:34 +0100 Received: from applejuice.dialups.via-net-works.ie ([212.17.34.18] helo=sever.netnation.ie) by saffron.via-net-works.ie with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17ABkN-0000VZ-00 for jmason@netnoteinc.com; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:40:24 +0100 Received: by SEVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:57:19 +0100 Message-Id: <7F238E950238D611A38F00E018C55F74094F67@SEVER> From: ""Garry Barcoe, Net Nation IT"" To: ""'yyyyason@netnoteinc.com'"" Subject: Candidate update 21.05.02 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:57:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain X-Keywords: Dear Justin, Net Nation IT Recruitment Candidate Update Newsletter Our goal is to help you achieve your companies goals by providing you with the best candidates on the job market today, with excellent and professional service. www.netnation.ie Tel: 01 635 9760 This month Justin, we have excellent IT candidates available, along with some excellent IT Sales Super Stars. **Stop Press** Net Nation IT Recruitment will save up money on your contracting rates. 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Regards Garry Barcoe Net Nation IT Recruitment 68 Pearse Street Dublin 2 Tel: 01 635 9760 jobs@netnation.ie www.netnation.ie",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Aug 22 10:47:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBF443C43 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 05:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:46:21 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7LIZUZ05268 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:35:32 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D286F294189; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mail.evergo.net (unknown [206.191.151.2]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 22C142940AE for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19500 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2002 18:30:27 -0000 Received: from dsl.206.191.151.102.evergo.net (HELO JMHALL) (206.191.151.102) by mail.evergo.net with SMTP; 21 Aug 2002 18:30:27 -0000 Reply-To: From: ""John Hall"" To: Subject: RE: The Curse of India's Socialism Message-Id: <006b01c24940$d2aa35a0$0200a8c0@JMHALL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:30:27 -0700 I don't know who said the below. 1) Measured in money, you are wrong. Different ethnic groups achieve at widely different rates. Always have. A lot of research has been done on that topic, Sowell among others. 2) If you exchanged the population of India and America, in a generation India would look like America. In Two, America would look like India. 3) As Bob said: 'valuable resources' has notin' to do with it. See Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, ... > > > > I'm sure that if someone checked the statistics, that the number of > > ""successful"" vs. ""unsuccessful"" (how to define those?) Indian > > immigrants in the US is statistically similar to the number of > > successful vs. unsuccessful Scotsmen. I'm not going to, though. > > > > India is poor because it always was poor. Unlike other countries > > in the region (including Ghana, Nigeria, et al) that have emerged > > from the ashes of Imperialism with strong growth, India is not > > blessed with a strong base of valuable resources. > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Aug 6 11:08:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75374412A for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:04:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72NTEv15890 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:29:14 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17aljs-0004z9-00; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:21:44 -0700 Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=neofelis.ixazon.lan) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17aliS-0000ur-00 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:20:17 -0700 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 504) id CFFCA3C47A; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: ""cmeclax po'u le cmevi'u ke'umri"" Reply-To: cmeclax@ixazon.dynip.com To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Razor-users] False Positives on EFF Messages X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3D4B0146.20604@perkel.com> In-Reply-To: <3D4B0146.20604@perkel.com> Comment: li 0x18080B5EBAEAEC17619A6B51DFF93585D986F633 cu sevzi le mi ckiku MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080219195506.20486@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:19:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:19:55 -0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 de'i Friday 02 August 2002 18:01 la Marc Perkel cusku di'e > Hi everyone, > > I'm the systems admin for the Electronic Frontier Foundation and I'm using > razor running under spam assassin there and one my own personal server. > Generally it works fine with near 0 false positives - except - that almost > all the false positives I've seen are on messages that originated at EFF. > > So - I am wondering why RAZOR is catching EFF email and how is this > happening. Below is an example of what I'm talking about. I added code to my procmailrc (on the other account) so that anything that comes on Bugtraq and is in Razor is revoked. Bugtraq is moderated, so spam doesn't get through it. The recipe revoked a message about an hour after I added it. :0 Wc | razor-check :0 a { :0 * !^(some Bugtraq-specific header) !fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com :0 E | razor-revoke } cmeclax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9SxOd3/k1hdmG9jMRAqz2AJ4yYsmri9qP3l8c61T9SFL5yQ1y6gCeJA71 CretKENIo9OyI7HgLm112jI= =jodf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "Return-Path: skip@pobox.com Delivery-Date: Mon Sep 9 20:19:04 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:19:04 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] deleting ""duplicate"" spam before training? good idea orbad? In-Reply-To: References: <15740.52432.861148.597750@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> Message-ID: <15740.62504.533596.995365@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> >> I wrote a script some time ago to try an minimize the duplicates I >> see by calculating a loose checksum, but I still have some >> duplicates. Should I delete the duplicates before training or not? Tim> People just can't stop thinking . The classifier should work Tim> best when trained on a wholly random spattering of real life. If Tim> real life contains duplicates, then that's what the classifier Tim> should see. A bit more detail. I get destined for many addresses: skip@pobox.com, skip@calendar.com, concerts@musi-cal.com, webmaster@mojam.com, etc. I originally wrote (a slightly different version of) the loosecksum.py script I'm about to check in to avoid manually scanning all those presumed spams which are really identical. Once a message was identified as spam, what I refer to as a loose checksum was computed to try and avoid saving the same spam multiple times for later review. >> Would people be interested in the script? I'd be happy to extricate >> it from my local modules and check it into CVS. Tim> Sure! I think it's relevant, but maybe for another purpose. Paul Tim> Svensson is thinking harder about real people than the rest Tim> of us, and he may be able to get use out of approaches that Tim> identify closely related spam. For example, some amount of spam is Tim> going to end up in the ham training data in real life use, and any Tim> sort of similarity score to a piece of known spam may be an aid in Tim> finding and purging it. I'll check it in. Let me know if you find it useful. Skip",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 19:58:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913016F21 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:57:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:57:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8UHJUK09309 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:19:30 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C382940EB; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from jamesr.best.vwh.net (jamesr.best.vwh.net [192.220.76.165]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 916262940EA for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 36539 invoked by uid 19621); 30 Sep 2002 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon) ([64.125.200.18]) (envelope-sender ) by 192.220.76.165 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Sep 2002 17:15:59 -0000 Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the First Amendment (fwd) From: James Rogers To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org In-Reply-To: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net> References: <3D9879E9.7020708@permafrost.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Message-Id: <1033407397.13480.34.camel@avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 30 Sep 2002 10:36:37 -0700 On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 09:20, Owen Byrne wrote: > In my experience, this is classic ""American"" behaviour, and I don't > think its on the increase outside of the US of A. In my experience, this protest behavior is really only an issue in ""ultra-liberal"" coastal cities, which is where I normally live. It is part of the culture and that behavior is viewed as acceptable. For comparison, contrast this with the character of the arguably more serious protests against Federal government abuse in the inter-mountain West. They have a very different idea of what constitutes acceptable protest practice. Those protests remain largely civil and polite, if heated and aggressive, and those involve a far greater percentage of the local population. And unlike 99% of the liberal coastal city protests I've seen, the people protesting in the inter-mountain West are actually facing immediate dire consequences from the activities they are protesting and are strongly motivated to protest in a manner that gets results. Some of their tactics, such as the practice of many businesses and restaurants in northern Nevada to not give service to anyone known to be in the employ of the BLM and related agencies, have been very effective at forcing dialog. I don't recall anyone characterizing their protests as impolite, rude, or violent, but then they have more to lose. -James Rogers jamesr@best.com",0 "Return-Path: guido@python.org Delivery-Date: Fri Sep 6 16:06:26 2002 From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:06:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Deployment In-Reply-To: Your message of ""Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:01:51 CDT."" <15736.50015.881231.510395@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> References: <200209061431.g86EVM114413@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> <15736.50015.881231.510395@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> Message-ID: <200209061506.g86F6Qo14777@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> > Dunno about the other tools, but SpamAssassin is a breeze to incorporate > into a procmail environment. Lots of people use it in many other ways. For > performance reasons, many people run a spamd process and then invoke a small > C program called spamc which shoots the message over to spamd and passes the > result back out. I think spambayes in incremental mode is probably fast > enough to not require such tricks (though I would consider changing the > pickle to an anydbm file). > > Basic procmail usage goes something like this: > > :0fw > | spamassassin -P > > :0 > * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes > $SPAM > > Which just says, ""Run spamassassin -P reinjecting its output into the > processing stream. If the resulting mail has a header which begins > ""X-Spam-Status: Yes"", toss it into the folder indicated by the variable > $SPAM. > > SpamAssassin also adds other headers as well, which give you more detail > about how its tests fared. I'd like to see spambayes operate in at least > this way: do its thing then return a message to stdout with a modified set > of headers which further processing downstream can key on. Do you feel capable of writing such a tool? 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Message-Id: <20020808155657.A6008@rover.vipul.net> Reply-To: mail@vipul.net Mail-Followup-To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net References: <20020808204451.GC1767@darkridge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from craig@deersoft.com on Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 03:17:52PM -0700 X-Operating-System: Linux rover.vipul.net 2.4.18 X-Privacy: If possible, encrypt your reply. Key at http://vipul.net/ Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:56:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:56:57 -0700 Craig, The problems with missing hashes are being addressed I write this. It should be fixed soon and it has nothing to do with TeS algorithms. cheers, vipul. On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 03:17:52PM -0700, Craig R . Hughes wrote: > I'm talking specifically about the last ~24 hours where it seems > like things have not been working. People who've been using the > Outlook plugin have been telling me they've been seeing really > bad performance, which I've been attributing to the problems > which have been discussed here and on sa-talk. I'm not saying > it's completely not working, or that it has no chance of being > fixed 15 minutes from now, just that it's not currently working, > and there have been a number of ""hiccup"" periods in the last > couple months. Plus, it's hard to deny that we don't know yet > if the trust network is going to work or not -- it only just got > switched on, and that changeover seems to have corresponded with > people noticing things have stopped working right. > > C > > On Thursday, August 8, 2002, at 01:44 PM, Jordan Ritter wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 01:36:15PM -0700, Craig R.Hughes wrote: > > > > # Razor2 seems to have been a long time in coming, [...] and doesn't > > # currently work. > > > > Quite a strong statement, Craig, one which over 30,000 active users a > > day would strongly disagree with. > > > > > > --jordan > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Razor-users mailing list > Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users -- Vipul Ved Prakash | ""The future is here, it's just not Software Design Artist | widely distributed."" http://vipul.net/ | -- William Gibson ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Jul 29 11:29:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A322D44168 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:25:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2Q5i12315 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 03:26:05 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A0A29409A; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1159A294098 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31188 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Jul 2002 02:23:41 -0000 Received: from ppp-192-216-194-138.tstonramp.com ([192.216.194.138]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user bitbitch) by webmail.magnesium.net with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1253.192.216.194.138.1027823021.squirrel@webmail.magnesium.net> Subject: Re: And Away We go From: To: In-Reply-To: References: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Cc: , X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:23:41 -0700 (PDT) >> Fear not poor Tom, between the pain & endorphins and/or massive >> amounts of drugs, she should remember little of the process. Her body >> is designed to block out the whole event, so that she can tell other >> women ""oh having the baby wasnt so bad, you should have one!"". Why >> else would any woman be willing to EVER have sex. > > This tells me two things: > 1. You are truly male. > 2. You are a male who has a very narrow view of what sex is about. > > (: > > C Having not had a baby meself, but having listened to my mother and countless others retell the tale, I'd reccomend to Adam a few bits of advice: 1) We don't generally have sex just to get preggers. You'd never get laid if that was the case. BUt hey, if we can convince you that the reason women don't have sex with you adam is because they don't want to carry your embittered, angry child, well hey. Girls Win! 2) Birth control. Let me say this again because Adam has forgotten the last 50 years (at least for the pill) BIRTH control. 3) For many women with men who can actually uh... satisfy, sex is great. Maybe you're lacking in this department ? ;) So moral of the story: Women, keep telling Adam that no one will have sex with him because they don't want to get preggers with his angry, bitter children and go through the pain of childbirth. yea.. thats it. ;) > > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Fri Oct 4 11:02:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE5816F1E for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:02:02 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:02:02 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g948wPK10662 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:58:30 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g948t2f06646; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:55:02 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g948sLf03042 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:54:21 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: Mplayer Message-Id: <20021004105413.5264a403.matthias@rpmforge.net> In-Reply-To: <3D9D3D32.5080404@punkass.com> References: <20021002.siy.77121800@www.dudex.net> <3D9BEC4A.2050900@punkass.com> <20021003110510.1c619b15.matthias@rpmforge.net> <3D9D3D32.5080404@punkass.com> Organization: freshrpms.net / rpmforge.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) X-Operating-System: Red Hat GNU/Linux forever! X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux... use Linux... use Linux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:54:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:54:13 +0200 Once upon a time, Roi wrote : > The new spec didn't even want to build the package > something with config.mak Now that is weird! :-/ > Also this new spec looks like the old one, it got libdv and libdv-devel > in the BuildRequires so I just used the normal spec and removed it > manully. Indeed, my boo-boo :-( Fixed now. BTW, about the ""mplayer -vo sdl"" black screen problem you reported, I was unable to reproduce it on my hom 8.0 computer, it worked as expected. Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10 Load : 0.10 0.15 0.16, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (1:47) _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 2 16:22:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7D844156 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 16:21:58 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g823QqZ17868 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 04:26:53 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B43229410A; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 20:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from barrera.org (cpe-65-172-233-109.sanbrunocable.com [65.172.233.109]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF12294099 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 20:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (127.0.0.1 [127.0.0.1]) by MailEnable Inbound Mail Agent with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 01:10:39 -08:00 Message-Id: <3D72BA8F.30303@barrera.org> From: ""Joseph S. Barrera III"" Organization: Wings over the World User-Agent: Mutt 5.00.2919.6900 DM (Nigerian Scammer Special Edition) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FoRK Subject: Re: Java is for kiddies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 18:10:39 -0700 Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote: > problems.... Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the > same problems over and over again when there are some many more > important and interesting problems (high level) to be solved ????? Amen! Doing it in an (unecessarily) harder way does NOT make you more of a man (or less of a kiddie). - Joe -- The Combatant State is your father and your mother, your only protector, the totality of your interests. No discipline can be stern enough for the man who denies that by word or deed.",0 "From spamassassin-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Oct 4 11:08:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F3316F73 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:05:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:05:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g944tnK03832 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 05:55:49 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17xKUS-0003W7-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:55:04 -0700 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17xKTV-0000Pd-00 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:54:05 -0700 Received: from user-2injgi2.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.121.194.66] helo=belphegore.hughes-family.org) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17xKTO-0006ze-00 for spamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 00:53:59 -0400 Received: by belphegore.hughes-family.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id 92EA622876; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: bugzilla-daemon@hughes-family.org To: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo Message-Id: <20021004045106.92EA622876@belphegore.hughes-family.org> Subject: [SAdev] [Bug 1054] New: Split up FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS Sender: spamassassin-devel-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-devel-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: SpamAssassin Developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:51:06 -0700 (PDT) http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1054 Summary: Split up FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS Product: Spamassassin Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 Component: Rules AssignedTo: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net ReportedBy: matt@nightrealms.com The current FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS triggers on any from where the user name ends in two or more digits. I think this should be split up into different numbers of trailing digits, so that rules with different S/O ratios can get different scores. So I've made test rules that look from From names that end with two, three, four, or five digitis, and one for six or more digitis; I also put in a test rule that looks for Froms that end in a single digit, just the sake of completeness. Here is what I got: OVERALL% SPAM% NONSPAM% S/O RANK SCORE NAME 15113 4797 10316 0.32 0.00 0.00 (all messages) 100.000 31.741 68.259 0.32 0.00 0.00 (all messages as %) 1.244 3.877 0.019 1.00 0.64 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS6 0.576 1.459 0.165 0.90 0.43 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS5 4.982 10.694 2.326 0.82 0.38 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS4 3.434 6.337 2.084 0.75 0.35 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS3 8.979 12.383 7.396 0.63 0.30 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS2 8.847 6.817 9.791 0.41 0.22 0.01 T_FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS1 I should note that I get rather bad S/O's for FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, probably because so much of my corpus is made up of Yahoo! Groups traffic, which seems to have a lot of users that like sticking numbers at the ends of their names. 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Looney"" To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] rpm dependencies Message-Id: <20021007083001.GJ16947@jinny.ie> Reply-To: ilug@linux.ie Mail-Followup-To: ilug@linux.ie References: <3D9F1C06.1010204@linux.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D9F1C06.1010204@linux.ie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Os: /Linux 2.4.18 X-Url: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen X-Gnupg-Publickey: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen/public.asc Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:30:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:30:01 +0100 On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 06:06:14PM +0100, Padraig Brady mentioned: > OK I'm upgrading vorbis on my machine and I'm getting > the following: > > # rpm -U libvorbis-* vorbis-tools-1.0-1.i386.rpm > error: failed dependencies: > libvorbisfile.so.0 is needed by SDL_mixer-1.2.0-4 > libvorbisfile.so.0 is needed by xmms-1.2.5-7 > libvorbisfile.so.0 is needed by tuxracer-0.61-5 > > This is because the new libvorbis.rpm only has libvorbisfile.so.3 > So is this a problem in the other packages depending on > a specific version (libvorbisfile.so.0) rather than on the > generic libvorbis.so ? 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(thread changed slightly) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:48:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-Ip: 194.145.131.198 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Rick Moen wrote: > Don't like SuSE's product licensing? Write your own distribution. You > can even grab most of what you need _from SuSE_. All you have to do is > heed the licensing terms on the individual pieces. How unimaginably difficult is this to do? There are as far as I know, no Linux kernel hackers, nor distros that originate from this fair island right? Right. Yes it might be very,very difficult and subject to abject failure in sticking together a distro.... call it Dolmen Linux (or other), no doubt the packaging system would be one of the first places such a suggestion would stumble. Some (like me) favouring a FreeBSD style ports system others favouring a Debian style system and others still favouring *rpm style packaging. That said other *LUG have done interesting things like making blackbox. Perhaps making a distro would be ..... umm.... fun. Just a pseudo random thought. I'm only laughing on the outside My smile is just skin deep If you could see inside I'm really crying You might join me for a weep. <> -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Sep 11 19:42:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB50A16F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:42:20 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:42:20 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BIQeC26236 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:26:43 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3AF294197; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from venus.phpwebhosting.com (venus.phpwebhosting.com [64.29.16.27]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D715929409A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32002 invoked by uid 508); 11 Sep 2002 18:24:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hydrogen.leitl.org) (62.226.149.78) by venus.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 18:24:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (eugen@localhost) by hydrogen.leitl.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BIOej25918; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:24:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: hydrogen.leitl.org: eugen owned process doing -bs From: Eugen Leitl To: Gary Lawrence Murphy Cc: Udhay Shankar N , Adam Rifkin , Subject: Re: storage bits In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:24:40 +0200 (CEST) On 11 Sep 2002, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > So then why does my webhost _still_ only give me 200MB? Because ~10 krpm server SCSII doesn't follow the curve. Most rackspace is ridiculously expensive/unit, so people don't use low end EIDE hardware there.",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 17 11:30:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABEC16F03 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:30:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:30:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8H9JaC03588 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:19:37 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2CD2940D8; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from venus.phpwebhosting.com (venus.phpwebhosting.com [64.29.16.27]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7132229409F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24536 invoked by uid 508); 17 Sep 2002 09:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hydrogen.leitl.org) (217.80.40.43) by venus.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 09:18:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (eugen@localhost) by hydrogen.leitl.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8H9IXY03200; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:18:33 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: hydrogen.leitl.org: eugen owned process doing -bs From: Eugen Leitl To: ""Stephen D. Williams"" Cc: Gary Lawrence Murphy , Udhay Shankar N , Adam Rifkin , Subject: Re: storage bits In-Reply-To: <3D8684B4.7060801@lig.net> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:18:33 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > To make what work? I already pointed out that a single drive is > comparable between IDE/SCSI. Alas, that's wrong. Both the drives are faster (10..15 krpm vs. ~7 krpm, faster seek), and the EIDE protocol is ridiculously dumb (queing; disconnect). > I think you're wrong with recent releases. I'll check this week. > There's also JFS and XFS. None of them are production quality. Right now only ext2 and ext3 qualify. It will take a good while (a year, or two) before we can trust anything else. > >SCSI has got advantages still, particular if it comes to off-shelf > >high-density racks. > > > Check out RaidZone.com. Have you looked inside a dual-CPU 1U Dell? Three drives are easy to get in. Anything else would require a redesign, and would in nontrivial thermal engineering issues. > A number of vendors are putting the Promise IDE hardware on the > motherboard. All that remains is the proper drive socket. I can't think of a single major vendor who sells 1U systems with hardware EIDE RAID. > Additionally, you can get hardware IDE raid as a pair of drive bays or > even an IDE-IDEx2 controller that can be screwed into a 1U chassis. I believe you that stuff can be found, if one is looking for it. 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Hey, look at that! DROPPRIVS If set to `yes' procmail will drop all privileges it might have had (suid or sgid). This is only useful if you want to guarantee that the bottom half of the /etc/procmailrc file is executed on behalf of the recipient. Of course, removing setuid/gid bits on programs that don't need it is always a good idea. A general rule of system administration: don't give out permissions unless you absolutely need to. ;) --=20 Randomly Generated Tagline: ""The cardinal rule at our school is simple. No shooting at teachers. 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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FoRK Subject: Netscape 7 Review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originalarrivaltime: 09 Oct 2002 17:28:03.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[39072E40:01C26FB9] Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:27:59 -0700 This is my Netscape 7.0 Review. o They finally got the email search speed back up to where it was in 4.7.x o Setting up user mail accounts doesn't have that really odd, sometimes it lets me sometimes it doesn't problem that previous versions had. o I still have to manually update all my address books by hand but at least it lets me import them as Netscape 4.x address books (there's not 6.x import as they just assume it works--which it doesn't) o The mail filters are still broken and have the same problem that I've tried to report since 4.0.2 where you can't store a mail filter of the type: Age in days, is greater than, 21 (or some number) Gawd I'd really wish they'd fix that freakin' bug, it's the single biggest annoyance that I have with Netscape as it's one of the most effective anti-spam tools that I have. o Webex doesn't support Netscape 7.0 and the plugin doesn't work which causes problems when you want to use Webex to work on something with someone remotely. I've given up trying to report bugs and any changes to the source I send always get lost. Greg -- Gregory Alan Bolcer, CTO | work: +1.949.833.2800 gbolcer at endeavors.com | http://endeavors.com Endeavors Technology, Inc.| cell: +1.714.928.5476",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Aug 21 18:16:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC0843C36 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:16:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7LHH8Z02989 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:17:08 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A90A29417A; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com (unknown [212.2.178.26]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5AF294162 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com [192.168.2.14]) by mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7LHD4p06600; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:13:04 +0100 Received: by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9972E43C32; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8745133D88; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:10:34 +0100 (IST) To: ""Gordon Mohr"" Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: The Curse of India's Socialism In-Reply-To: Message from ""Gordon Mohr"" of ""Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:00:36 PDT."" <004701c24934$45af7950$640a000a@golden> From: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org (Justin Mason) X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 0A48 2D8B 0B52 A87D 0E8A 6ADD 4137 1B50 6E58 EF0A Message-Id: <20020821171034.9972E43C32@phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com> Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:10:29 +0100 ""Gordon Mohr"" said: > If you plan to spend most of your time in that broke/ > unemployed/unexceptional mode, please, leave North America > for Scandinavia. hmm, I might, at least they've got affordable DSL there, and haven't signed a DMCA-like law yet ;) --j. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "Received: from hq.pro-ns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq.pro-ns.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MHVlhY023443 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:31:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cpunks@hq.pro-ns.net) Received: (from cpunks@localhost) by hq.pro-ns.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6MHVlVw023439 for cypherpunks-forward@ds.pro-ns.net; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:31:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from slack.lne.com (dns.lne.com [209.157.136.81] (may be forged)) by hq.pro-ns.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MHVdhX023379 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:31:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cpunk@lne.com) X-Authentication-Warning: hq.pro-ns.net: Host dns.lne.com [209.157.136.81] (may be forged) claimed to be slack.lne.com Received: (from cpunk@localhost) by slack.lne.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g6MHVb805606 for cypherpunks@ds.pro-ns.net; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:31:37 -0700 Received: from delta.poolee.ca ([209.216.140.218]) by slack.lne.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g6MHVUg05597; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:31:33 -0700 Received: from 24.55.128.155 ([217.59.66.205]) by delta.poolee.ca (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002071721591787:4407 ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:59:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000016081046$0000613f$000078bf@> To: From: ""Maire Lira"" Subject: Your Vehicle Warranty PFYEXHF Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:43:22 -1900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 (High) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-Msmail-Priority: High X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on delta/PINC(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 07/17/2002 09:59:20 PM, Serialize by Router on delta/PINC(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 07/17/2002 09:59:39 PM, Serialize complete at 07/17/2002 09:59:39 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=""iso-8859-1"" X-spam: 100
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When time comes for evaluation, there isn't a line on O> the page saying ""Helped others to succeed with their projects."" And yet, in my experience, it still happens, but always ""unofficially"" and ""off the record"". It's as if we believe that ""the gods"" will punish us if we are seen to have behaved in a human fashion while on company time, either by being caught red-handed, or having the paper-trail finger us later. Yet even CEOs will ""pull strings"" to make things happen, and, also in my experience, those are the moments when things actually do happen. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com ""Computers are useless. 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Processed in 0.321256 secs); 26/08/2002 13:39:54 Received: from deepeddy.vircio.com (@[10.1.2.1]) (envelope-sender ) by austin-jump.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Aug 2002 18:39:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 15683 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 18:39:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) (?Eb56NnaDnu2iOMAsaAJvGe2zQ07H1k7j?@[127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Aug 2002 18:39:50 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Anders Eriksson , exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Exmh && speed In-Reply-To: <200208261822.g7QIMk7P005756@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020826180041.913C73F05@milou.dyndns.org> <200208261822.g7QIMk7P005756@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg X-Image-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/chris.gif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""==_Exmh_1581673767P""; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1030387189.15657.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> From: Chris Garrigues X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.57 Reply-To: Chris Garrigues X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:39:47 -0500 --==_Exmh_1581673767P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:22:46 -0400 > > I'm perfectly willing to can-opener that code and see where the CPU is > going, but only if nobody is slapping their forehead and mumbling about > a brown-paper-bag bug... ;) As I mentioned in my email to Anders, it's certainly in my code and I don't have time to work on it right now, so I would not be offended if you worked on it. 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Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 716 Congress, Suite 200 Austin, TX 78701 +1 512 374 0500 World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers. --==_Exmh_1581673767P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE9anXzK9b4h5R0IUIRAqiEAJsEF+hfbYPkHDm0L6E8Q+a7yy/0pACcDZXl u6aC2B1PKjc336D56TZvdxc= =x6ru -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1581673767P-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 24 17:55:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6380A16F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:55:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:55:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8OFN0C09794 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:23:00 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B8B2940B5; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from jamesr.best.vwh.net (jamesr.best.vwh.net [192.220.76.165]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D2D629409A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14882 invoked by uid 19621); 24 Sep 2002 15:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon) ([64.125.200.18]) (envelope-sender ) by 192.220.76.165 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2002 15:20:37 -0000 Subject: RE: liberal defnitions From: James Rogers To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1032881662.24435.8.camel@avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 24 Sep 2002 08:40:17 -0700 This situation wouldn't have happened in the first place if California didn't have economically insane regulations. They created a regulatory climate that facilitated this. So yes, it is the product of over-regulation. -James Rogers jamesr@best.com On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 05:17, Geege Schuman wrote: > from slate's ""today's papers"": > The New York Times and Los Angeles Times both lead with word that > a federal judge ruled yesterday that the nation's largest > national gas pipeline company, El Paso, illegally withheld gas > from the market during California's energy squeeze in 2000-01. > The judge concluded that El Paso left 21 percent of its capacity > in the state off-line, thus driving up the price of gas and > helping to induce rolling blackouts. > > and this is the product of overregulation?",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 10 12:32:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1127B16F17 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:32:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:32:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9A849K14143 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:04:09 +0100 Message-Id: <200210100804.g9A849K14143@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: Brown accused of backtracking on regional museums Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:04:09 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-4,8723997,215/ Date: 2002-10-10T03:26:54+01:00 *Arts:* Curators despair at 'shortfall' in chancellor's funding.",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 5 12:51:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BD016F20 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:51:10 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:51:10 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85BdWZ17228 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:39:32 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17muyW-0002r7-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 04:39:04 -0700 Received: from relay05.indigo.ie ([194.125.133.229]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17muxX-0001Og-00 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 04:38:03 -0700 Received: (qmail 67415 messnum 1193219 invoked from network[194.125.172.167/ts12-167.dublin.indigo.ie]); 5 Sep 2002 11:38:00 -0000 Received: from ts12-167.dublin.indigo.ie (HELO spamassassin.taint.org) (194.125.172.167) by relay05.indigo.ie (qp 67415) with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 11:38:00 -0000 Received: by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id F10F516F49; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:26:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from spamassassin.taint.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE314F7B1 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:26:30 +0100 (IST) To: SpamAssassin Subject: Re: [SAtalk] My SA went crazy. 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    GH1 is the highest concentration of orally administered GH1
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    WHAT IS GROWTH HORMONE (GH)?

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    GH is one of many endocrine hormones, such as estrogen, progesterone, test= osterone,
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    THE ETERNAL FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH?

    Our bodies naturally produce GH in abundance when we are young, and its pr= oduction
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    profession and the wealthy have been privy to its benefits. Another proble= m has been
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    effective administered through injections. However, a new technology devel= oped by
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    GH production falls by 80% from age 21 to 61

    Growth hormone declines with age in every animal species that has been tes= ted to date.
    The amount of decline in humans falls approximately 14% per decade.
    This results in the growth hormone production rate being reduced in half b= y the age
    of 60. Humans produce on a daily basis 500 micrograms per year at age 20, =
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    of 70 and 80, nearly everyone is deficient in growth hormone which results= in SDS,
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    aging which the medical community has determined is not a normal occurrenc= e.
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    After numerous clinical studies, the following was determined
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:59:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie > > Ok, Iknow this is blatantly OT but I'm beginning to go insane. > > Had an old Dell Dimension XPS sitting in the corner and decided to > > put it to use, I know it was working pre being stuck in the > > corner, but when I plugged it in, hit the power nothing happened. > > I opened her up and had a look and say nothing much. 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List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From pudge@perl.org Wed Jul 31 03:00:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A838F4407C for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:00:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from cpu59.osdn.com (slashdot.org [64.28.67.73] (may be forged)) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6V21a229694 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:01:37 +0100 Received: from [10.2.181.14] (helo=perl.org) by cpu59.osdn.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Zimu-0002Z0-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:00:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 02:00:29 +0000 From: pudge@perl.org Subject: [use Perl] Stories for 2002-07-31 To: yyyy-use-perl@spamassassin.taint.org Precedence: list X-Bulkmail: 2.051 Message-Id: use Perl Daily Newsletter In this issue: * Mac OS X Conference Registration Opens * New Pumpking is Crowned +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mac OS X Conference Registration Opens | | posted by ziggy on Monday July 29, @22:58 (events) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/30/0317236 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ [0]gnat writes ""[1]Registration is now open for the O'Reilly [2]Mac OS X Conference. 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Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/07/30/0317236 Links: 0. mailto:gnat@oreilly.com 1. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/19/register.html 2. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/macosx2002/ 3. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2002/view/e_sess/3281 4. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2002/view/e_sess/3114 5. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2002/view/e_sess/3155 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | New Pumpking is Crowned | | posted by pudge on Tuesday July 30, @16:15 (releases) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/30/2016230 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ [0]Dan writes ""One of the many things that's come out of this year's TPC is the appointment of a new Pumpking. No, not Hugo van der Sanden, who hopefully everyone knows is taking on the task of 5.9 and 5.10. No, I'm talking about the inimitable Michael Schwern, who's now holder of the perl 1 pumpkin and, I'm assured, is well on the way to a new maintenance release. Details are over on [1]dev.perl.org. Join the porters list and help Schwern out!"" Yes, he said ""perl 1"". Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/07/30/2016230 Links: 0. http://yetanother.org/dan/ 1. http://dev.perl.org/perl1/ Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved. ====================================================================== You have received this message because you subscribed to it on use Perl. To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Fri Oct 4 10:59:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB70E16F17 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:59:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:59:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93MWhK17771 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:32:43 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g93MR1f30385; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:27:01 +0200 Received: from python (80-24-132-206.uc.nombres.ttd.es [80.24.132.206]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g93MQSf26521 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:26:29 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: apt.conf suggestion Message-Id: <20021004002618.1b352b30.matthias@rpmforge.net> In-Reply-To: <1033681684.3133.100.camel@bobcat.ods.org> References: <1033681684.3133.100.camel@bobcat.ods.org> Organization: freshrpms.net / rpmforge.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) X-Operating-System: Red Hat GNU/Linux forever! X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux... use Linux... use Linux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:26:18 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:26:18 +0200 Once upon a time, Ville wrote : > how about applying this to the default apt.conf shipped with the > freshrpms.net apt package? I found it a bit weird when the behaviour > changed between the old 0.3.x and the new 0.5.x versions so that when > doing a ""apt-get upgrade"", it wouldn't tell me *which* packages were to > be upgraded, just that it was about to upgrade something... Indeed, I found that strange too, then I noticed the ""-u"" switch and used that... but your solution is much better :-) The next apt build will incorporate this change (not worth a rebuild for this, and as some relatively important cnc7 bugs are currently being fixed, I'd say cnc8 isn't far off!). 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    --DeathToSpamDeathToSpamDeathToSpam-- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-Sightings mailing list Spamassassin-Sightings@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-sightings",1 "Return-Path: nas@python.ca Delivery-Date: Thu Sep 5 23:49:23 2002 From: nas@python.ca (Neil Schemenauer) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:49:23 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] all but one testing In-Reply-To: References: <20020905190420.GB19726@glacier.arctrix.com> Message-ID: <20020905224923.GA20480@glacier.arctrix.com> Tim Peters wrote: > I've run no experiments on training set size yet, and won't hazard a guess > as to how much is enough. I'm nearly certain that the 4000h+2750s I've been > using is way more than enough, though. Okay, I believe you. > Each call to learn() and to unlearn() computes a new probability for every > word in the database. There's an official way to avoid that in the first > two loops, e.g. > > for msg in spam: > gb.learn(msg, True, False) > gb.update_probabilities() I did that. It's still really slow when you have thousands of messages. > In each of the last two loops, the total # of ham and total # of spam in the > ""learned"" set is invariant across loop trips, and you *could* break into the > abstraction to exploit that: the only probabilities that actually change > across those loop trips are those associated with the words in msg. Then > the runtime for each trip would be proportional to the # of words in the msg > rather than the number of words in the database. I hadn't tried that. I figured it was better to find out if ""all but one"" testing had any appreciable value. 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Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:23:52 -0700 Received: from usw-sf-sshgate.sourceforge.net ([216.136.171.253] helo=usw-sf-netmisc.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17wjPX-0005vM-00 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:19:31 -0700 Received: from usw-pr-cvs1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.5.1.7] helo=usw-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-netmisc.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 17wjPX-00056q-00 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:19:31 -0700 Received: from yyyyason by usw-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 17wjPX-00014T-00 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:19:31 -0700 To: spamassassin-commits@example.sourceforge.net Message-Id: From: Justin Mason Subject: [SACVS] CVS: spamassassin/t db_based_whitelist.t,1.6.4.1,1.6.4.2 db_based_whitelist_ips.t,1.1.2.1,1.1.2.2 Sender: spamassassin-commits-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-commits-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-commits@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:19:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:19:31 -0700 Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t In directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4019/t Modified Files: Tag: b2_4_0 db_based_whitelist.t db_based_whitelist_ips.t Log Message: fixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path Index: db_based_whitelist.t =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/db_based_whitelist.t,v retrieving revision 1.6.4.1 retrieving revision 1.6.4.2 diff -b -w -u -d -r1.6.4.1 -r1.6.4.2 --- db_based_whitelist.t 24 Sep 2002 18:51:38 -0000 1.6.4.1 +++ db_based_whitelist.t 2 Oct 2002 13:19:28 -0000 1.6.4.2 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ use lib '.'; use lib 't'; use SATest; sa_t_init(""db_based_whitelist""); -use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 3 }; +use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 8 }; # --------------------------------------------------------------------------- @@ -16,17 +16,17 @@ %patterns = %is_nonspam_patterns; $scr_test_args = ""-M Mail::SpamAssassin::DBBasedAddrList""; -sarun (""--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org"", \&patterns_run_cb); +ok (sarun (""--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org"", \&patterns_run_cb)); # 3 times, to get into the whitelist: -sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb); -sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb); -sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb); +ok (sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb)); +ok (sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb)); +ok (sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb)); # Now check ok (sarun (""-L -a -t < data/nice/002"", \&patterns_run_cb)); ok_all_patterns(); %patterns = %is_spam_patterns; -sarun (""-L -a -t < data/spam/004"", \&patterns_run_cb); +ok (sarun (""-L -a -t < data/spam/004"", \&patterns_run_cb)); ok_all_patterns(); Index: db_based_whitelist_ips.t =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/t/db_based_whitelist_ips.t,v retrieving revision 1.1.2.1 retrieving revision 1.1.2.2 diff -b -w -u -d -r1.1.2.1 -r1.1.2.2 --- db_based_whitelist_ips.t 24 Sep 2002 18:51:38 -0000 1.1.2.1 +++ db_based_whitelist_ips.t 2 Oct 2002 13:19:29 -0000 1.1.2.2 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ use lib '.'; use lib 't'; use SATest; sa_t_init(""db_based_whitelist_ips""); -use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 3 }; +use Test; BEGIN { plan tests => 8 }; # --------------------------------------------------------------------------- @@ -15,18 +15,18 @@ %patterns = %is_nonspam_patterns; -sarun (""--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org"", \&patterns_run_cb); +ok (sarun (""--remove-addr-from-whitelist whitelist_test\@whitelist.spamassassin.taint.org"", \&patterns_run_cb)); 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If somebody maximizes their gratification by slaughtering people, we shouldn't just try to understand them. We should try to stop them. You seem to have forgotten this in your moral relativism. Everybody is justified in their own head. This doesn't mean we forgive mass murders, or ignore their acts. They are still guilty and abhorrent. We do understand them better when we see them as a flawed human being, like any one of us. > When both sides can call the other ""evil"" to the cheers of their local > public and media, you can bet something's rotten in the state of Denmark. Calling ""the other side"" evil is a time-honored tradition. It is less of a stepping point for an analysis of the situation than it is for an analysis of human nature in general. > I guess that's why I live in the woods. Bears and racoons I > understand, but I really just don't 'get' people. People require a touch more effort. -- njl http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Oct 7 20:37:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290C316F16 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:37:02 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:37:02 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g97JOmK13925 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:24:49 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE5E2940D6; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from isolnetsux.techmonkeys.net (isolnetsux.techmonkeys.net [64.243.46.20]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B46D32940D5 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28151 invoked by uid 501); 7 Oct 2002 19:20:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 2002 19:20:33 -0000 From: CDale To: bitbitch@magnesium.net Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: The absurdities of life. In-Reply-To: <3283394680.20021007145936@magnesium.net> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:20:33 -0500 (CDT) It was a kick when an apt manager kept mailing me a notice that I owed them .08. I just waited to see how many times they'd mail me a notice. 7 times by the time I left and paid them the .08. Funny thing was, I lived right behind the office where it was mailed from. (: Cindy On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 bitbitch@magnesium.net wrote: > > > So I get a check from Pac Bell today (SBC as they're called now). > Turns out, they went to the trouble of printing out, signing, sealing > and stamping a check just to refund me for a whole $0.33. > > They easily spent more than this just getting the materials together. > Why the hell do companies bother to do this crap? I mean, isn't there > a bottom line in terms of cost effectiveness? I don't think I missed > the .33, but I sure as hell would have appreciated lower rates in lieu > of being returned pennies. > > I'm truly stuck on this though. I don't know whether to frame the > check, burn it, or cash it in. Maybe I should find a way to return to > sender, so they have to spend -more- money on giving me my .33 dues. > > > Does .33 even buy anything anymore? Funny bit of it, is I couldn't > even make a phone call these days. > > *boggled* > BB. > > -- ""I don't take no stocks in mathematics, anyway"" --Huckleberry Finn",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 17 23:29:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813E816F03 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:29:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:29:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8HHmaC20997 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:48:36 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE79A2940F3; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from permafrost.net (unknown [64.5.214.38]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D39BB29409F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14583 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Sep 2002 17:38:52 -0000 From: ""Owen Byrne"" To: Chuck Murcko Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Hanson's Sept 11 message in the National Review Message-Id: <20020917173852.GB5613@www.NT-NETWORK> References: <96394F38-CA61-11D6-A53C-003065F93D3A@topsail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <96394F38-CA61-11D6-A53C-003065F93D3A@topsail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:38:52 -0300 On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:19:13AM -0700, Chuck Murcko wrote: > Probably because we have this pesky 1st Amendment thing here. Still, > lots of us in the States have developed a disturbing tendency to shout > down or (in recent years) shackle in legal BS opinions, thoughts, and > individual behaviors we don't agree with. > Except that parroting the party line doesn't really require much freedom of speech. Now if you had posted something from a left of center source, you would have been shouted down in flames, buried in ad hominem attacks, and probably get your name added to an FBI list. Besides the basic rule in the United States now is ""I'll defend your rights to say anything you want, but if it isn't appropriately neoconish, well, don't expect to work"": HHS Seeks Science Advice to Match Bush Views By Rick Weiss Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, September 17, 2002; Page A01 The Bush administration has begun a broad restructuring of the scientific advisory committees that guide federal policy in areas such as patients' rights and public health, eliminating some committees that were coming to conclusions at odds with the president's views and in other cases replacing members with handpicked choices. ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26554-2002Sep16.html Owen",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Wed Aug 7 06:44:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B08D440C8 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 07 Aug 2002 06:44:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g775fak12384 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 06:41:36 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354D33F4A5; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CC43F4A5 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g775d1U07100 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:39:01 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g775d0q07096 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:39:00 -0400 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (root@[192.204.191.242]) by mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g775Q0l29971 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:26:00 -0400 Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g775ctVk012949 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:38:55 -0400 (EDT) To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: curses interface to nmh In-Reply-To: <4058.1028618719@kanga.nu> References: <20020806014000.48D429E@whatexit.org> <4058.1028618719@kanga.nu> Comments: In-reply-to J C Lawrence message dated ""Tue, 06 Aug 2002 00:25:19 -0700"" Message-Id: <12948.1028698735@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:38:55 -0400 J C Lawrence writes: > Tom Reingold wrote: >> Years ago, there was a package called mh-e which was an emacs >> interface to MH. I don't know if it's still around or works. But >> it's an idea. > Its still around, its actively maintained, and its quite well evolved. I useta use mh-e regularly, but I never figured out whether it could handle exmh's multidrop mechanism, which is something I've grown to rely on. Does that work in recent mh-e versions? I'd love to use mh-e when reading mail remotely, if it can handle my multiple-inbox- folders setup... regards, tom lane _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Fri Sep 20 11:30:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E349816F03 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:30:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:30:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8K8kFC29305 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:46:15 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g8K8g1f28052; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:42:01 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g8K8fMf27995 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:41:22 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: sylpheed-claws Message-Id: <20020920104055.201c2986.matthias@rpmforge.net> In-Reply-To: <20020919221046.7484dec6.hosting@j2solutions.net> References: <20020919221046.7484dec6.hosting@j2solutions.net> Organization: freshrpms.net / rpmforge.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) X-Operating-System: Red Hat GNU/Linux forever! X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux... use Linux... use Linux... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200 Once upon a time, Jesse wrote : > Have you thought of bumping up sylpheed-claws? I see sylpheed got a > bump... show some claws love? (; Well, in sylheed's ""claws"" branch you need to wait a bit for the developers to backport all the updates from the main branch before getting a release with the same version number. Right now, the latest ""claws"" release is still 0.8.2claws : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25528 But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-) Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10 Load : 0.18 0.23 0.33, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (4:47) _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "Return-Path: marklists@mceahern.com Delivery-Date: Mon Sep 9 17:26:51 2002 From: marklists@mceahern.com (Mark McEahern) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes package? In-Reply-To: <15740.44036.651321.285627@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> Message-ID: [Skip Montanaro] > That has the nasty side effect of placing all .py files in the package. > What about obvious executable scripts (like timtest or hammie)? How can I > keep them out of the package? Put them in a scripts folder? // m -",0 "From iiu-admin@taint.org Fri Jul 26 17:13:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EE8440E8 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:13:17 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QGCxr09485; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:12:59 +0100 Received: from mail04.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail04.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.20]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6QGBar09444 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:11:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 12902 messnum 1110424 invoked from network[159.134.176.195/p195.as1.cra.dublin.eircom.net]); 26 Jul 2002 16:10:28 -0000 Received: from p195.as1.cra.dublin.eircom.net (HELO tron.nua.ie) (159.134.176.195) by mail04.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 12902) with SMTP; 26 Jul 2002 16:10:28 -0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20020726165855.03a40810@dogma.slashnull.org> X-Sender: antoinmail@dogma.slashnull.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: iiu@taint.org, iiu@taint.org From: Antoin O Lachtnain Subject: Re: [IIU] OCTR unlicensed band changes ... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726162611.02dd6cf0@gpo.iol.ie> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20020726133547.028d0a10@dogma.slashnull.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii""; format=flowed Sender: iiu-admin@taint.org Errors-To: iiu-admin@taint.org X-Beenthere: iiu@iiu.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: iiu@taint.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Irish Internet Users List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:59:22 +0100 Does that mean that you could reach further, but you couldn't take up as much bandwidth then? a. At 04:27 PM 7/26/2002 +0100, Bernie Goldbach wrote: >Hi, > >I believe the higher allowance nationally comes with a prescribed specific >frequency constraint, so if you want 2 watts, you will have to confine >yourself to a tighter limit of the open spectrum. That could affect >deployments that channel-hop when they encounter degradations in signal >strength. > >regards >Bernie Goldbach >::talking to signs:: > > >_______________________________________________ >IIU mailing list >IIU@iiu.taint.org >http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu -- Antoin O Lachtnain ** antoin@eire.com ** http://www.eire.com ** +353-87-240-6691 _______________________________________________ IIU mailing list IIU@iiu.taint.org http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Aug 12 11:05:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954FA4414E for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:55:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79MJib27680 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:19:44 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32051; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:15:54 +0100 Received: from hawk.dcu.ie (mail.dcu.ie [136.206.1.5]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32018 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:15:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host mail.dcu.ie [136.206.1.5] claimed to be hawk.dcu.ie Received: from prodigy.redbrick.dcu.ie (136.206.15.10) by hawk.dcu.ie (6.0.040) id 3D36BB4A00082CCF; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:15:46 +0100 Received: by prodigy.redbrick.dcu.ie (Postfix, from userid 666) id 288A8DA4A; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:15:46 +0100 (IST) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:15:45 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Colm_MacC=E1rthaigh?= To: Paul Linehan Cc: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] ILUG newsgroup(s)? Message-Id: <20020809231545.A2206@prodigy.Redbrick.DCU.IE> References: <20020709103958.GA670@skynet.ie> <20020809180733.63093.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020809180733.63093.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com>; from plinehan@yahoo.com on Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 08:07:33PM +0200 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 08:07:33PM +0200, Paul Linehan wrote: > Is there any way that the mailing list can be > turned into newsgroup? yep, mail to news gateways are common. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Mail2News.html -- colmmacc@redbrick.dcu.ie PubKey: colmmacc+pgp@redbrick.dcu.ie Web: http://devnull.redbrick.dcu.ie/ -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Oct 9 15:09:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6ED16F18 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:08:57 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 15:08:57 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g99DSAK03914 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:28:11 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17zGi0-0007gK-00; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 06:17:04 -0700 Received: from [207.106.111.252] (helo=digby.pffcu.org) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17zGh9-0005LD-00 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 06:16:11 -0700 Received: from tasker.pffcu.org ([200.1.1.57]) by digby.pffcu.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4GL6DPAK; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:16:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (sc@localhost) by tasker.pffcu.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g99DF4904395 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:15:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: tasker.pffcu.org: sc owned process doing -bs From: Samuel Checker To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Razor-users] Razor and Pine Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:15:03 -0400 (EDT) I've been testing Razor, invoked from sendmail/procmail and so far it seems pretty copacetic. Last night's spam to the list provided a good test - the spam itself as well as several of the responses were flagged, as other list members reported. This morning I piped the messages out from pine, being careful to use the RAW mode, to razor-check -d. None of the messages come back as spam, even the spam. Since folks revoked the false positives, I understand why they would not come up, but not the spam itself, unless that also was revoked. Is this spam just a bad one to test against, or is there some setting in pine or razor that I am missing? -- sc ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From p10almg@msn.com Thu Aug 2 02:19:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@netnoteinc.com Received: from mail.reed-ramsey.com (unknown [208.241.169.82]) by mail.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 916E511410E for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 01:19:55 +0000 (Eire) Received: from mxjjy.msn.com (ATHM-209-219-xxx-247.home.net [209.219.228.247]) by mail.reed-ramsey.com; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:19:10 -0500 From: p10almg@msn.com To: cglkb@msn.com Reply-To: tedhaefner3617@excite.com Subject: Do you have enough money for all your bills? 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That is a fully retarded view of economics, and pretty much the same kind of clueless oversimplication that led to the blackouts. There are a bazillion factors that affect game strategies, which is what the state of California messed up and the energy producers exploited. I'm not convinced that the only way to prevent future energy debacles like the blackouts is to reregulate. Ultimately we have to blame the people who crafted the game rules in a way that invited blackouts and exploitation. Given that the particular set of rules crafted by the state of California sucked, does there exist a set of rules that doesn't suck? If there does exist a better set of rules, then reregulation isn't necessarily the answer. You can't blame businesses for being profit maximizers. Yes, the people involved were heartless and corrupt. But mainly they just did their jobs. The guilty parties are either the mathematicians and economists who wrote the rules or, if the mathematicians and economists said there were no good rules, pro-deregulation politicians who went ahead anyway. - Lucas",0 "From pudge@perl.org Mon Sep 2 12:36:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD6F44155 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:36:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from cpu59.osdn.com (slashdot.org [64.28.67.73] (may be forged)) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8120FZ25772 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 03:00:15 +0100 Received: from [10.2.181.14] (helo=perl.org) by cpu59.osdn.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17lK0a-0006gd-00 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:58:36 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 02:00:20 +0000 From: pudge@perl.org Subject: [use Perl] Headlines for 2002-09-01 To: yyyy-use-perl@spamassassin.taint.org Precedence: list X-Bulkmail: 2.051 Message-Id: use Perl Daily Headline Mailer Perl Ports Page posted by hfb on Saturday August 31, @13:40 (cpan) http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/31/1744247 Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. 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Owen --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/3900215.htm Internet can level the political playing field By Mike McCurry and Larry Purpuro NOT many months from now, people across the country will experience one of the great recurring features of American democracy. At shopping malls, on factory floors, at church socials and even on our front stoops, we will be approached by individuals who want to represent us in public office. While chances are high that we won't know them personally, they will walk up to us, offer a handshake and a flier and ask for our votes. Just as technology is affecting every other area of communication, it has begun to affect the way political candidates communicate with voters. In this year's GOP gubernatorial primary, California Secretary of State Bill Jones, who faced better-funded candidates, acquired the e-mail addresses of more than a million potential California voters and sent each an unsolicited e-mail asking for support. That day, he might have chosen any of the more traditional -- and more expensive -- methods of contacting voters, such as direct mail, radio spots or TV ads. But he spent only about 2 cents per message, instead of 35 cents or more per message for direct mail or in another medium. Had Jones chosen direct mail, radio or TV, that communication would have been equally ``unsolicited,'' as defined in the e-mail world. Few voters would have ``opted in'' to receive campaign information from Jones through any of those channels. The response to Jones' e-mail effort, however, was swift and intense. He was lambasted by anti-spam advocates, and media coverage was almost entirely negative. To be fair, some of Jones' tactics could have been refined. He used a less-than-perfect list and no standard-practice ``paid for'' disclaimer in the message. His detractors, however, attacked him not for his tactical miscues but because the e-mail was sent unsolicited. In fact, Jones' online campaign may have been his most visible asset. In an era of cynicism toward money in politics -- money typically spent on other unsolicited communication mediums -- Jones tried to level the playing field. No one likes commercial spam. It is irrelevant and untargeted and can be highly intrusive and even offensive. But as a sophisticated society, it's time to differentiate commercial spam from very different unsolicited e-mail sent by political candidates to voters. The debate is particularly relevant in light of legislation in Congress that would constitute the first federal law to directly address spam. We believe e-mail is no more intrusive than direct mail, telemarketing or TV advertising when it comes to politicians seeking to reach voters. A simple link in good e-mail campaigns allows recipients to opt out of future mailings. Direct mail takes at least a phone call or stamp to be taken off a list, and viewers must repeatedly endure TV ads. When a candidate lacks a large campaign war chest, he or she can use the Internet to provide constituents with information to better prepare them to perform their civic duty of casting educated votes. With more than 60 percent of all potential voters in this country possessing e-mail accounts, it makes sense that political candidates use this medium. Candidates might avoid some of the tactical problems encountered by the Jones campaign if they use the technologies available today that better ensure quality of e-mail lists and target content to specific recipient groups. But the broader point remains. When a political candidate sends a voter an e-mail, that recipient can choose to delete the message without opening it, unsubscribe from the list, read it or even reply and engage the sender. That choice should belong to the voter -- not to anti-spam advocates whose efforts are better focused on commercial e-mail. Political candidates should be free to communicate with voters as best they can, and let voters decide what to do with that information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike McCurry, former press secretary for President Clinton, is CEO of an advocacy management and communications software company. Larry Purpuro, the former Republican National Committee deputy chief of staff, is founder and president of a political e-marketing firm. This was written for the Los Angeles Times. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From jjc7y7676668t04@hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 17:08:42 2002 Return-Path: jjc7y7676668t04@hotmail.com Delivery-Date: Thu May 30 23:16:37 2002 Received: from hotmail.com (IDENT:nobody@[210.90.86.121]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g4UMGYO26031 for ; Thu, 30 May 2002 23:16:35 +0100 Reply-To: Message-Id: <021b58d34a3d$4363e3b5$3ed24cc7@mvwrwg> From: To: Subject: The instant drugstore 6537DW-6 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:04:16 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Keywords: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=""----=_NextPart_000_00C3_00C72E6D.E0387B16"" ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_00C72E6D.E0387B16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 KCVyYW5kJSkNCg0KDQpGcm9tIHRoZSBwcml2YWN5IG9mIHlvdXIgaG9tZQ0K QWxsIHlvdXIgcGVyc2NyaXB0aW9uIG5lZWRzIGVhc2lseQ0KRXZlcnl0aGlu ZyBmcm9tIHNleHVhbCBhaWRzIHRvIGRpZXQgYWlkcw0KRG9jdG9yIG9mZmlj ZSB2aXNpdHMgbm90IHJlcXVpcmVkDQpBdmFpbGFibGUgMjRYNw0KDQpodHRw Oi8vd3d3LnF1aWNrcnhtZWRzLmNvbS9tYWluMi5waHA/cng9MTYzNTYNCg0K DQp0b20xOTUyMTU2NDJAeWFob28uY29tDQowNzAzQkRjVDEtNzgyc1FjSjE3 NzdKRVhEMy04NTRGc1lnOTkzMXlCWnY4LTYxMGlvaU03MjEwRVFlczktNWw1 OA==",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Jul 26 07:31:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBAF440E7 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:31:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q6Wd429384 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:32:40 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEBA294115; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp1.auracom.net (smtp1.auracom.net [165.154.140.23]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190B2294108 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maya.dyndns.org (ts5-043.ptrb.interhop.net [165.154.190.107]) by smtp1.auracom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g6Q661E23593; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by maya.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6EA311C39A; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:07:15 -0400 (EDT) To: ""Gordon Mohr"" Cc: Subject: Re: Asteroids anyone ? References: <001301c23359$d8208130$0100a8c0@PETER> <2784.192.216.194.113.1027554358.squirrel@webmail.magnesium.net> <20020725154846.M85654@networkcommand.com> <01fe01c23456$5d862760$640a000a@golden> From: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Home-Page: http://www.teledyn.com Organization: TCI Business Innovation through Open Source Computing Message-Id: Reply-To: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Url: http://www.teledyn.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 26 Jul 2002 01:07:15 -0400 >>>>> ""G"" == Gordon Mohr writes: G> Gary Lawrence Murphy writes: >> 20,000 years ago, one of them the size of Mt Everest just ever >> so slightly grazed us and left a scar 400km long in the side of >> South America G> Do you have any further information about this incident that G> would me find more details on the web? Good question. This was covered in one of the amateur rags, maybe Sky and Telescope or even Scienterrific American, long before there was any web to speak of, but you'd think a 400km gash in the Earth would be pretty easy to find ;) I remember it from an issue perhaps in the very late 80's or early 90's. It's interesting to note that NT7 and many other NEO bodies are all on trajectories that approach the Earth from under the ecliptic, so with the Earth tilt, South America becomes a pretty good target. In trying to find you a site through Google, I turned up several different impact sites in Venezuela and Brazil, with ages ranging from 251M to 70 years, but not the 400km gash from the above story. The only google refs I found from that period is one in Arizona (famous impact crater) and another in NM; do wish I had noted the actual South American /country/ that contains the scar; Venezuela sticks in my mind but I can't be certain. http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/images/meteorcrater.html -- Gary Lawrence Murphy TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com ""Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.""(Pablo Picasso) http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Jul 31 12:31:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA73440C9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:31:03 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VBRI219204 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:27:18 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00490; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:25:50 +0100 Received: from homer.jinny.ie ([193.120.171.3]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00452 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:25:42 +0100 Received: from jlooney.jinny.ie (fw [193.120.171.2]) by homer.jinny.ie (8.9.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id MAA32217 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:25:12 +0100 Received: (from john@localhost) by jlooney.jinny.ie (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6VBPgP24510 for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:25:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: jlooney.jinny.ie: john set sender to jlooney@jinny.ie using -f Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:25:41 +0100 From: ""John P. Looney"" To: Irish LUG Subject: Re: [ILUG] Fwd: Linux Beer Hike Message-Id: <20020731112541.GW4594@jinny.ie> Reply-To: ilug@linux.ie Mail-Followup-To: Irish LUG References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Os: Red Hat Linux 7.3/Linux 2.4.18-3 X-Url: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen X-Gnupg-Publickey: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen/public.asc Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:02:01PM +0100, Satelle, StevenX mentioned: > I dislike being forced to learn something and mostly refuse to do it. Did you burn yourself often, as a child ? John -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 2 23:01:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5254316F2C for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:01:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 23:01:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g82HZrZ12867 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:35:54 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E386D2940D7; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D08294099 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id AACD03EBEB; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96463EBD0; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:37:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: vox@mindvox.com Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: SChoolHouseRocks DVD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Of course they had to do this AFTER we purcahsed these all on vhs, and yes it is now run by the great evil empire known as disney...but we got the new School House Rocks DVD anyway and man is it an amazing item. First off , my 8 year old has been singing them since she was 6. Second off, these are much easier to rip to divx and mp3. Third, new songs, remastered originals and other dvd goodies. Its a 2 dvd set so its well worth the 17$ we paid for it. Even if you dont have kids, run do not walk to pick this one up. Man, I would sure love to have a *nix Rocks for the kids.",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Mon Sep 2 13:12:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DEC4416D for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:38:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g81K1WZ02392 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:01:35 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3607E3FCDB; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131FF3EA2C for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g81JuqY32303 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:56:52 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g81JupY32299 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:56:51 -0400 Received: from orion.dwf.com (bgp01360964bgs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net [68.35.68.128]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g81JfLl20760 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:41:21 -0400 Received: from orion.dwf.com (localhost.dwf.com [127.0.0.1]) by orion.dwf.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g81Ju7SO002623; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 13:56:07 -0600 Received: from orion.dwf.com (reg@localhost) by orion.dwf.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g81Ju6TE002619; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 13:56:06 -0600 Message-Id: <200209011956.g81Ju6TE002619@orion.dwf.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/25/2002 with nmh-1.0.4 To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org, Ingo Frommholz Cc: reg@orion.dwf.com Subject: Re: ARRRGHHH Had GPG working, now it doesnt. In-Reply-To: Message from Ingo Frommholz of ""Sun, 01 Sep 2002 16:14:11 +0200."" <200209011414.g81EEBP05889@eva.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Reg Clemens X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 13:56:06 -0600 > Hi, > > On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 00:05:03 MDT Reg Clemens wrote: > > [...] > > in messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS > > gives > > > > Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDDF997A > > Can't check signature: public key not found > > > > So, something else is missing. > > Yes, the public key of the signature you want to check :-). > > Are you really sure that you have the public key of the message's > signature? If not, try downloading it or try to check a signature from > which you know you have the public key. > > > Ah, sorry for not making that clearer. But no. Previously (v1.0.6 of GnuPG) there would be a slight pause at this point while it went out to get the public key from a keyserver. Now, whether I have the key or NOT, I get the failure message. 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    --DeathToSpamDeathToSpamDeathToSpam-- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-Sightings mailing list Spamassassin-Sightings@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-sightings",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Jul 25 22:39:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7898440E7 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:39:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PLbb400313 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:37:37 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3512940E3; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mithral.com (watcher.mithral.com [204.153.244.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8413F2940DE for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6580 invoked by uid 1111); 25 Jul 2002 21:35:42 -0000 From: ""Adam L. Beberg"" To: Tom Cc: Subject: Re: USA USA WE ARE NUMBER ....six. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:35:42 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tom wrote: > ""Around the world, there is a growing sense that democracy has not > delivered development"" Sakiko Fukuda-Parr UN report author Or perhaps it is the unregulated and out of control capitalism used as a tool to concentrate wealth and form a greed-based society? I notice the top 5 have a good amount of socialism in their systems to regulate the capitalism, especially in things like health care and education. Just look at our health care - no insurance = no care. 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""Duncan"" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ beberg@mithral.com http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From Steve_Burt@cursor-system.com Wed Aug 28 10:55:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876C943F99 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:55:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.72]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7S9gNZ18555 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:42:23 +0100 X-Egroups-Return: sentto-2242572-53141-1030527749-zzzz=spamassassin.taint.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2002 09:42:29 -0000 X-Sender: steve.burt@cursor-system.com X-Apparently-To: zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 28 Aug 2002 09:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 83424 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2002 09:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Aug 2002 09:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailgateway.cursor-system.com) (62.189.7.27) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2002 09:42:27 -0000 Received: from exchange1.cps.local (unverified) by mailgateway.cursor-system.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:43:38 +0100 Received: by exchange1.cps.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:42:26 +0100 Message-Id: <5EC2AD6D2314D14FB64BDA287D25D9EF12B50F@exchange1.cps.local> To: ""'zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com'"" X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Egroups-From: Steve Burt From: Steve Burt X-Yahoo-Profile: pyruse MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com; contact forteana-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:42:25 +0100 Subject: RE: [zzzzteana] Digest Number 2453 Reply-To: zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >JUST as the pyramids of Egypt were built in honour of great kings, it was >fitting that sandy replicas were created on Weymouth beach in memory of the >king of the castle. Fred Darrington, who became the world's most famous sand >sculptor, died last week aged 91. His grandson, Mark Anderson, who has taken >over his Dorset seafront pitch, is determined that his grandfather's name will >not be forgotten, despite the impermanence of his creations. Can someone please tell me what a ""pitch"" constitutes? I have an idea it is somewhat like the spots street musicians claim, but this sounds more formal. ------------------ Just an area of the beach by the prom where he's allowed to make his sculptures. Weymouth is where I spent my teenage years. My mum and one sister still live there. So I'm pretty familiar with the sculptures; pretty impressive, and very big. (I think he uses some sort of armature for some bits - it's not just sand) They usually get vandalised, though; after a lot of drinks, it obviously is a good idea to break into the enclosure and kick all the sculptures to bits. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Oct 9 10:52:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3993116F1A for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:51:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:51:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9980uK25233 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:00:56 +0100 Message-Id: <200210090800.g9980uK25233@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: Doesn't smell like team spirit Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 08:00:56 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-3,8688976,215/ Date: 2002-10-09T03:15:14+01:00 *Football:* It's a safe bet that Kurt Cobain hated sports. 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List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Mon Jul 22 18:21:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FDF440C9 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:21:49 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFG0901260 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:16:00 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA32607 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:04:04 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17WegI-0005Dz-00; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:01:02 -0700 Received: from ns2.wananchi.com ([62.8.64.4]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17WefC-0006Vm-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:59:57 -0700 Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (FreeBSD)) id 17Weco-000GDd-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:57:26 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Message-Id: <20020722145726.GZ39585@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Fortune: People need good lies. There are too many bad ones. -- Bokonon, ""Cat's Cradle"" by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 X-Best-Window-Manager: Blackbox X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:46PM up 49 days, 8:31, 3 users, load averages: 1.04, 1.03, 1.06 Subject: [SAtalk] Personal/Site-Wide SA Glitch (Spamassassin+Exim) Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:57:26 +0300 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:57:26 +0300 Hello People, I am new to SA but (2) problems I do have. I run SA from my own home for personal use and it seems to work but I see this in my procmail log: procmail: Executing "" ~/bin/SpamAssassin/spamassassin -P -c ~/bin/SpamAssassin/rules"" dccproc: not found dccproc: not found Can someone enlighten me on why I get that? FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE, SA-2.3.0 Secondly, I've tested (now on Three boxes) SA for site-wide usage but I believe I am missing something major because I've also had my setting checked/verified. The problem is that the site-wide setup does NOT seem to work. Why? 1. I have my local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin 2. I have spamd running, and mail delivery logs show that all e-mails are being passed thro SA. My local.cf contains: ENABLED=1 OPTIONS=""-F 0"" # rewrite_subject 0 report_header 1 defang_mime 0 required_hits 7.0 report_header 1 use_terse_report 1 subject_tag **SPAM** wash ('tty') ~ 337 -> exim -bt engingwarez@runjiri.co.ke eng.ngware@runji.co.ke deliver to enginngware in domain runjiri.co.ke director = spamcheck_director, transport = spamcheck However when I check the mail delivered to this mailbox, SA has _not_ added any headers to it. PERTINENT: I also run a Virus Scanner called DRWEB via Exim's system filter and the rules that I have applied are: if not first_delivery or $received_protocol is ""drweb-scanned"" or $received_protocol is ""spam-scanned"" then finish endif Some enlightenment would bail me out, I believe. Thanks -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington ""The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD."" GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) ""We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"" -- Vroomfondel ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Sep 6 11:40:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8725D16F03 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:39:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:39:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g869kOC28806 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:47:47 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19327 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:52:16 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15843; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:50:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail05.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail05.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.21]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA15809 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:50:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 46890 messnum 300912 invoked from network[159.134.112.65/p112-65.as1.bdt.dublin.eircom.net]); 5 Sep 2002 23:50:14 -0000 Received: from p112-65.as1.bdt.dublin.eircom.net (HELO calm.mc) (159.134.112.65) by mail05.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 46890) with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 23:50:14 -0000 Received: from mconry by calm.mc with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17n6O5-0000Fh-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 00:50:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:50:13 +0100 From: Michael Conry To: eric nichols Cc: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] PCTel modules Message-Id: <20020905235013.GC887@calm.mc> Reply-To: michael.conry@ucd.ie References: <20020905221736.822B53942@sitemail.everyone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020905221736.822B53942@sitemail.everyone.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On 0020 -0700 %{!Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 3:17:36PM -0700}, eric nichols wrote: > Hello again. I tried all the suggestions for the PCTel driver and at > the end of it, everything still goes smoothly until I type ""make"" > after I get the output from the ./configure. > > However, there were a couple of things I noticed along the way. After typing > * cp configs/kernel-2.4...config .config > * make oldconfig > * make dep > The 2nd to last line I got back said that the modversions.h file was > not updated. When I looked at this path to the modversions.h file, it > was 281 lines and every line started with a # mark. > Is it the case > that nothing is read on a line after a # mark (or am I just thinking > of another language?) and so should I delete the # at certain places? No that is appropriate content for the file. I'm not a C programmer, but I think that these sort of things (#include ) are instructions to the compiler processed by a pre-processor in the compile process, and include all sorts of symbols/functions e.g. ""#include "" gives you maths type functions. Since they start with ""#"" they are ignored in the final compilation. Regarding the rest of the compile process, you need to tell the PCtel software to look in the right place for the kernel headers/source. I recall from your previous mail that there was a flag --with-kernel-includes=/usr/src/linux-2.4 which could be passed to the ./configure script (with the appropriate directory in place of /usr/src/linux-2.4). This might allow you to persuade the code to compile against the correct headers. I think this is the right way to proceed. Alternatively, maybe the steps above regarding ""make dep"" and so forth should have been performed in the directory where the make process is looking for modversions.h & Co. I don't think it is a good idea keep moving files into the directory as you describe below. First of all you will move modversions.h (which you have done), then you would have to move all those *.ver files, after that, there will almost certainly be a need for further header (*.h) files. This could be quickly done, but is probably bad (those files don't really belong there). For what it's worth I think you are very close to a successful compilation. m > > Also, when I was in the pctel directory and typed ""make"", I noticed > that a different subdirectory is taken to a different modversions.h > file. Inside this other file, there's nothing at all. And so I moved > the modversions.h file with 281 lines to the empty modversions.h file > - and got a different reply after ""make"". The output after I moved the > file over mostly looked like this: > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:11:33: > linux/modules/adb.ver: No such file or directory > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:12:37: > linux/modules/af_ax25.ver: No such file or directory > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:13:36: > linux/modules/af_ipx.ver: No such file or directory > > The odd lines being the path and the first half of the other lines are > what's written after the # in the modversions.h file. Should there be > a file at each of these (one at each of the 281 lines of the file) > that I'd have to compile/make? -- Michael Conry Ph.:+353-1-7161987, Web: http://www.acronymchile.com Key fingerprint = 5508 B563 6791 5C84 A947 CB01 997B 3598 09DE 502C -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Sep 20 11:32:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A0316F03 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:32:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:32:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8JHLgC29973 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:21:43 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFB229410C; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from panacea.canonical.org (ns1.canonical.org [209.115.72.29]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D0329409C for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by panacea.canonical.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E51EC3F522; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:18:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kragen Sitaker To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Cc: webmaster@worldwidewords.org Subject: Re: Avast there matey Message-Id: <20020919171804.GA18065@canonical.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:18:04 -0400 Owen Byrne writes: > [quoting http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-shi2.htm] > *SHIVER MY TIMBERS* > > /From Tad Spencer/: ""Please could you tell me where the phrase /shiver > my timbers/ originated?"" > > This is one of those supposedly nautical expressions that seem to be > better known through a couple of appearances in fiction than by any > actual sailors' usage. > > It's an exclamation that may allude to a ship striking some rock or > other obstacle so hard that her timbers shiver, or shake, so implying a > calamity has occurred. It is first recorded as being used by Captain > Frederick Marryat in /Jacob Faithful/ in 1835: ""I won't thrash you Tom. > Shiver my timbers if I do"". It seems implausible to me that ""shiver"" here means ""to shake""; I don't recall seeing the word used transitively in that sense, and web1913 lists that sense as ""v. i."", or intransitive. The transitive sense of ""shiver"", which we no longer use but which people used widely in the 1800s (web1913 doesn't even list it as archaic or obsolete), means ""to shatter into splinters, normally with a blow"". Shivering a boat's timbers, of course, leaves you with no boat. (Shivering some of them, which will happen if you hit a rock hard enough, leaves you with a sinking boat.) So, ""Shiver my timbers if I do,"" can be reasonably interpreted as a more vivid way of saying, ""May I die suddenly if I do."" The interpretation suggested by Quinion, ""May my boat be damaged,"" neither makes as much sense in context nor obeys the normal rules of grammar. I've sent a copy of this to Quinion.",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Aug 19 11:02:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4043144197 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:54:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7IBfX607848 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:41:33 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14617; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:40:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from redpie.com (redpie.com [216.122.135.208] (may be forged)) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14582 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:40:10 +0100 Received: from justin ([194.46.28.223]) by redpie.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA23605 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 04:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: ""Kiall Mac Innes"" To: Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:47:09 +0100 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [ILUG] OffTopic: PS2 Mod-chip installation... can anyone do it? Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Sorry i know this is off topic: Ive recently gotton my hands on a mod chip for my PS2 and its needs to be solderd into the PS2, but i have never solderd before and the guy i got it off reccomended that i do not attempt to install it my self... if anyone can do it or knows someone who can e-mail me at kiall@redpie.com. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS LIST... once again sorry for the OT... Kiall Mac Innes -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Wed Aug 14 11:00:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC3444147 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:52:03 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7E981408020 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:08:01 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7E941J01629; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:04:01 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7E92XJ21375 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:02:33 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: xine problems Message-Id: <20020814110203.45ff2d74.matthias@egwn.net> In-Reply-To: <200208132145.51754.nick@permflux.org> References: <200208132145.51754.nick@permflux.org> Organization: Electronic Group Interactive X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) Reply-BY: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 19:02:00 +1000 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux power! X-Message-Flag: Try using a real operating system : GNU/Linux power! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:02:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:02:03 +0200 Once upon a time, Nick wrote : > I'm no longer able to play encrypted dvd's using the xine rpm from > freshrpms. > I think it was about a week ago when I last rented some dvd's, worked > just fine, but apparently since the latest xine update on freshrpms, it > won't anymore. > The output is : > > input_dvd: Sorry, this plugin doesn't play encrypted DVDs. The legal > status > of CSS decryption is unclear and we can't provide such code. > Please check http://dvd.sf.net for more information. > > I'm pretty sure it worked with the previous freshrpms release... Any way > of rolling back updates ? If you get this message, it means that you're using the ""DVD"" button, which is the default DVD plugin and doesn't support decryption. You should either use the ""d4d"" one (no menus) or ""d5d"" (with menus). 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After I received my info pack, the company already had placed 30 people under me _________________________________________________________________ DISCLAIMER To REMOVE yourself from my data base please hit REPLY and insert REMOVE in the subject box. 7211iAHr5-883Pbxd6893ZUNf7-464YxFl31",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 9 19:27:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A372D16EFC for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:27:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:27:29 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89E6FC18201 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:06:15 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAF6294101; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool-162-83-147-92.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.147.92]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D35A2940EC for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lgonze@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89DxI203461; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:59:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: lgonze owned process doing -bs From: Lucas Gonze X-X-Sender: lgonze@localhost.localdomain To: bitbitch@magnesium.net Cc: FoRK Subject: Re[2]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) In-Reply-To: <10770315074.20020909094137@magnesium.net> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:59:18 -0400 (EDT) > So Eugen, how many of your homo friends have -had- 3k lovers? > > In fact, thats a general question for FoRK proper. Uh, zero. I'm sort of offended at having to take this question seriously, like being black and having to actually explain that black people don't all sing and dance. I'd guess that gay men compared to straight men have a linearly greater number of sexual partners on the order of 1.5-2X. But then again, it not a monolithic or homogeneous community. Who knows? 3K is utter shite. - Lucas",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Oct 1 10:42:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFD316F49 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:39:46 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:39:46 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g915hGK12278 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:43:17 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDBC2940F6; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9FA29409E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from golden (adsl-67-119-25-240.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.119.25.240]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with SMTP id g915g485531044; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 01:42:04 -0400 Message-Id: <006d01c2690d$42a02cc0$640a000a@golden> From: ""Gordon Mohr"" To: ""Mr. FoRK"" , References: Subject: Re: Dinosaurs Eggs and the Origins of Good and Evil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:41:57 -0700 Neat stuff. Seems to combine elements of Scientology/Xenu and David Icke (http://www.davidicke.com/icke/temp/reptconn.html). - Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Mr. FoRK"" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: Dinosaurs Eggs and the Origins of Good and Evil > One of the most bizarre pages I've seen on the Web. At first I thought it > might be some sort of back-story to a RPG, but, nope, it looks like somebody > believes this. > > === > http://www.viking-z.org/r20i.htm > > M09. Dinosaurs Eggs and the Origins of Good and Evil. > DINOSAURS. Reptoid ETs are reported to be 12 foot high crocodiles walking on > their hind legs. This is a description of a dinosaur. It now appears in > Remote Viewing that the Reptoid ETs, dinosaurs and dragons are all linked > together and that they all originated on Earth. The Erideans who are Reptoid > derivatives have a home planet (in the Eridanus system) like all other ETs. > The Reptoids have no reported home planet. They also come over as entities > with little brain who control their bodies directly by spirit. This is a > description of a ghost or disincarnate entity regardless of how people see > them. Thus it could be that the Reptoids, Erideans, Nordics, Anunnaki, but > not the Greys, all have origins on Earth and have a strong link to Earth > even if they choose to live elsewhere. The Greys do not appear to have a > renal or urinary system and this points to them not originating on Earth. > The definitive work on dragons is ""The Flight of Dragons"" by Peter > Dickinson. If dragons did exist in the flesh, they did not survive the long > bow. Targets do not come much bigger. > > Truth is stranger than fiction. Thus the writer's current scenario is that > there were a race of dinosaurs which developed psychic intelligence to guard > their eggs and young, and who probably preferred to live underground. They > survived the wipe out of the dinosaurs 50 million years ago with difficulty. > They evolved into the Erideans and transferred to a more hospitable planet > (for them) possibly with the help of another race of ETs who wanted slaves > but otherwise had no interest in Earth or mind control. > > Thus it appears that the current Reptoids are the Spirits or ghosts of the > dinosaurs. They must have been powerful to survive 50 million years and also > to appear to some people. They have appeared to the writer in remote > viewing. They are living on as vampire entities. Such immortal minds are > contagious and can easily jump race and species barriers. If they can be > encouraged to reincarnate, then the power sources of the black magicians and > mind controllers will disappear. Encouraging them to reincarnate will help > so called immortal minds to disappear as immortal minds have great > difficulty surviving reincarnation. Purging people's dinosaurs should remove > all perverse psychic abilities not under their control. They are a source of > Satanic Guardian Angels and demons. They control us by owning our psi. Thus > if we regain ownership of psi, we must relinquish their control and that of > all other mind controllers. Encourage people to regain ownership of their > psi. > > THE ORIGINS OF LOVE, HATE AND PURE MALICE. The following scenario appears to > hold water and can account for the origins of our Universal Subconscious. > > Dinosaurs laid their eggs and buried them either underground or in piles of > rotting vegetation (a good source of beetles and grubs for young > hatchelings). They did not sit on their eggs to keep them warm, which made > them very vulnerable to drastic climate and temperature change. In order to > keep away predators some at least developed psychic mind control. To do this > they had to capture ownership of the psi of potential predators. This is an > act of hatred and outward looking. While a few dinosaurs did develop the > ability to bear living young, most did not. The dinosaurs got in first and > so their mind control tends to override all other latter minds. They have > become the source of all Satans, devils and demons. > > Birds on the other hand developed the ability to sit on their eggs and keep > them warm. A hen bird normally lays a series of eggs (say one per day) and > only starts sitting when the clutch is completely laid. Thus all eggs tend > to hatch together as they all have an equal period of warmth. This is > primarily an act of love but inward looking. Bearing live young is not > suitable to a bird of the air. A pregnant pigeon would not fly very far. > Antarctic penguins tuck a single egg between their legs to keep it warm, > even if they are standing on ice. > > Mammals developed live bearing of their young which is also primarily an act > of love and inward looking. This is especially true as a mammalian female > can not desert her young in the womb in case of emergency as can a bird > sitting on a nest. > > Dinosaurs developed hate and mind control of others to protect their young, > while birds and mammals developed love. Birds and mammals certainly do hate > all enemies of their young, but this is secondary. > > If one wants to purge the sources of malice of say a black magician, then > purge his dinosaurs and his dinosaur eggs. Unfortunately most of our > religions are based on dinosaur protection of eggs and thus mind control, > regardless of the front they put out to the public. Religion tends to > concentrate on ""How to Brainwash your Neighbour"". Conscious thought has > built many mighty empires, theologies and slave control systems out of using > ""How to care for and protect one's young"" as a foundation. > > Thus the foulest form of abuse possible is to call something ""A load of > dinosaur's eggs"". Purging the dinosaurs and dinosaur's eggs of any entity > tends to purge all malice back to its roots. > > It looks as if mighty immortal minds have built up from small beginnings, > aided and abetted by various occultists and other. As they will insist on > vampiring the living for energy to avoid reincarnation and disturbing the > serenity of the writer, he encourages them to reincarnate. > > ITEMS FOR INSPECTION. For mind control to take place, then someone must take > control or ownership of the target's psi and pleasure centres. Check for the > following. > > Nest of dinosaur's eggs, holy dinosaurs, etc. > Eggs, controllers or owners in peoples psi, pleasure centres, pain killing > hormones, abilities, etc. > Mind machines. > The original engraving or engram. > GOD and SATAN appear to be job titles and not entities in their own right. T > hey appear to be dinosaur engravings or engrams. No doubt dinosaurs were the > first job holders. > TIMETRACKS are worth investigating as our complete history from the start of > time. > > My, our, Man's timetracks, etc. > The time tracks of the Universe, Universal Subconscious, Galactic > Subconscious, etc. > EXTINCT RACES of ETs can cause problems when they live on in vampire mode. > Their virtues may known to channelers but they can also have vices. Whenever > one hears of races which have evolved on to higher planes, suspect that the > higher plane is a vampire one. One may never know what they looked like or > other basic characteristics, which makes linking back a trifle difficult. > Every extinct race, etc. > BLOOD ANCESTORS are also worth investigating as minds can be passed down via > genetic linkages. Some of these can be over 2,000 years old. > Every blood ancestor, ancestral mind, genetic mind, etc. >",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 22 18:41:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947DD47C67 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:41:24 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MHYcZ17839 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:34:38 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17hvqO-0002io-00; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:34:04 -0700 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17hvpz-0007Ng-00 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:33:39 -0700 Received: from user-105nd99.dialup.mindspring.com ([64.91.181.41] helo=belphegore.hughes-family.org) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17hvpw-0000t6-00; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:33:36 -0400 Received: from balam.hughes-family.org (adsl-67-118-234-50.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.118.234.50]) by belphegore.hughes-family.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5399CA3FEB; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Highest-scoring false positive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Cc: SpamAssassin List To: ""Karsten M. Self"" From: ""Craig R.Hughes"" In-Reply-To: <20020822000239.GJ30870@miles.freerun.com> Message-Id: <47DAEAB9-B5F5-11D6-A91E-00039396ECF2@deersoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:33:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:33:33 -0700 Interesting. It's possible, of course, that the shitty economy is hurting the spammers as much as anyone else. But if you've been aggressively reporting, then it could just be that. Could be your upstream ISP is being more aggressive too... C On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, at 05:02 PM, Karsten M. 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    ",1 "From spamassassin-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Jul 30 18:41:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5ED440A8 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:41:18 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHX3208423 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:33:03 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17Zapq-00042l-00; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:31:02 -0700 Received: from [213.105.180.140] (helo=mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17Zaoz-0001t4-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:30:09 -0700 Received: from phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com [192.168.2.14]) by mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UHU7p12140 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:30:07 +0100 Received: by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5BC0A4406D; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EA233F3A for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:29:08 +0100 (IST) To: SpamAssassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net From: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org (Justin Mason) X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 0A48 2D8B 0B52 A87D 0E8A 6ADD 4137 1B50 6E58 EF0A X-Image-Url: http://spamassassin.taint.org/me.jpg Message-Id: <20020730172908.5BC0A4406D@phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com> Subject: [SAdev] Alternatives to the GA Sender: spamassassin-devel-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-devel-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: SpamAssassin Developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:29:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:29:03 +0100 BTW Ken Shan suggested making a set of corpus data publically available, so that different classification algos can be tried out. 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Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-devel mailing list Spamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Sep 11 14:10:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E2116F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:10:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:10:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BD4KC15488 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:04:20 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D538D2940D0; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp1.superb.net (smtp1.superb.net [207.228.225.14]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A29629409A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 06:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19867 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 13:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maya.dyndns.org) (207.61.5.143) by smtp1.superb.net with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 13:03:44 -0000 Received: by maya.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 584B91CC98; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:03:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Udhay Shankar N Cc: Adam Rifkin , FoRK@xent.com Subject: Re: storage bits References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020911114003.02e170f0@frodo.hserus.net> From: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Home-Page: http://www.teledyn.com Organization: TCI Business Innovation through Open Source Computing Message-Id: Reply-To: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Url: http://www.teledyn.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 11 Sep 2002 09:03:37 -0400 >>>>> ""U"" == Udhay Shankar N writes: U> At 12:32 PM 12/28/00 -0600, Adam Rifkin wrote: >> I repeat, IBM 76.8Gb ultra dma/100 hard drive at Fry's for >> $375... ""home of fast, friendly courteous service! (R)"" U> less than two years later, we have 320 GB for the same price: So then why does my webhost _still_ only give me 200MB? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com ""Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.""(Pablo Picasso)",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 19 11:04:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782E4440F9 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:55:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7HFhc602968 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:43:41 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93542940E8; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp1.auracom.net (smtp1.auracom.net [165.154.140.23]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14C42940E3 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maya.dyndns.org (ts5-043.ptrb.interhop.net [165.154.190.107]) by smtp1.auracom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g7HFAh107766 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by maya.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id A34D61C336; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:15:36 -0400 (EDT) To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Al'Qaeda's fantasy ideology: Policy Review no. 114 References: <58113821767.20020816230818@magnesium.net> <32120604960.20020817010121@magnesium.net> <20020817070601.GG9238@ibu.internal.qu.to> From: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Home-Page: http://www.teledyn.com Organization: TCI Business Innovation through Open Source Computing Message-Id: Reply-To: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Url: http://www.teledyn.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 17 Aug 2002 11:15:36 -0400 >>>>> ""N"" == Ned Jackson Lovely writes: N> On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 01:51:25AM -0400, Gary Lawrence Murphy N> wrote: N> By choosing that term you are certainly attempting to frame the N> debate by choosing a fear-charged word. And ""moral relativism"" is not? N> If somebody maximizes their gratification by slaughtering N> people, we shouldn't just try to understand them. We should try N> to stop them. The history of crime and punishment illustrates the need for /both/, and while there are slaughter-maxima people living in Queens (or Montreal or Milan or ...), I would not condone blanket justifications to ""cure"" everyone who looks like them with suspended rights and violence. Do we suspect every tall black man because of OJ Simpson? By the logic of that article, which is apparently endorsed by at least a few FoRKers, should I keep all Americans at an arms distance for fear I'll be infected with the same paranoiac blood-lust meme-virus? After-all, it's a disease, just like a plague, right? Ok, ok, so maybe I /do/ keep a few Yanks in quarantine, fenced off with chickenwire out in the back 40, but that's besides the point. At least I feed them. Wait, wait ... enough tit-for-tat, how about a technical question: How would _you_ /know/ if you _were_ infected? Wouldn't the schizophrenia of the diseased meme be transparent to you, perfectly bonded into your reality? N> People require a touch more effort. Spoken exactly like those people I do not understand, because the specist statement is patently false by /all/ measures known to science, yet they so adamantly believe the farce is truth. Would you also believe the Earth is at the center of the Universe, put here for our exclusive enjoyment because God loves us best? ""To the enlightened mind, there is no difference between a Brahmin and a dog"" --- guess which moral relativist said it and where. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com ""Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.""(Pablo Picasso) http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Fri Sep 27 10:41:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C8B16F16 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:41:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:41:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8R81bg00941 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:01:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200209270801.g8R81bg00941@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: ask Subject: Sourceforge sells out Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:01:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/archives/2002/09/24.html Date: 2002-09-24T02:35:59-08:00 You are not still using sourceforge, are you? If you have any hopes that they are anything but yet another business giving away a free service, then see this: Selling Microsoft VisualStudio on the ""open source development platform"". Nice touch. Click on the image for the original screenshot....",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Dec 2 11:20:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BAA16F75 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:15:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:15:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB23NI806040 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 03:23:18 GMT Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id gB23M3o00493; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:22:03 +0100 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id gB23L5o31267 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:21:05 +0100 Received: from eecs.berkeley.edu ([63.192.217.110]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H6H006E82N39V@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for rpm-list@freshrpms.net; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 19:21:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Liblit Subject: Re: alsa:bass and treble In-Reply-To: <1038772033.1784.4.camel@Novastar> To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Message-Id: <3DEAD19F.1090706@eecs.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021127 References: <1038772033.1784.4.camel@Novastar> X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 19:21:03 -0800 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 19:21:03 -0800 Nova Nova wrote: > bass and treble settings do not seem to have any affect on the sound. 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Any questions please call 1-888-406-4246. 4405QbGO0-443kDbe8564dZal0-578oOQX1596BvIM5-482gIom4113Kxl54 http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",1 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Sep 23 18:31:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A306316F03 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:31:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:31:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8NFCmC22638 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:12:48 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g8NF63f09696; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:06:04 +0200 Received: from fep07-app.kolumbus.fi (fep07-0.kolumbus.fi [193.229.0.51]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g8N7Xof04723 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:33:50 +0200 Received: from [10.104.155.83] ([62.248.241.5]) by fep07-app.kolumbus.fi with ESMTP id <20020923073338.MLTG14491.fep07-app.kolumbus.fi@[10.104.155.83]> for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:33:38 +0300 Subject: Re: New testing packages From: Peter Peltonen To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net In-Reply-To: <20020919.6le.46623700@www.dudex.net> References: <20020919.6le.46623700@www.dudex.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7 (1.0.7-2.2) Message-Id: <1032766369.1927.14.camel@jersey.fivetec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: 23 Sep 2002 10:32:49 +0300 Date: 23 Sep 2002 10:32:49 +0300 BTW: I just a found a quite nice looking apt repositry for all kinds of audio apps at http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ Peter On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 23:28, Angles Puglisi wrote: > Matthias Saou (matthias@rpmforge.net) wrote*: > >- I've rebuilt a new ""alsaplayer"" package based on Angle's one. > > Cool, one less package to maintain :) > > One interesting thing about alsaplayer is that RedHat's XMMS package in RH8 will > probably not play mp3 files. But alsaplayer does play mp3s ""out of the box"". > > Also, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version > of alsaplaer will be pretty cool, but I have no idea when it will be ready. > > -- > That's ""angle"" as in geometry. > > > > _______________________________________________ > RPM-List mailing list > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Oct 1 10:36:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F2316F03 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:35:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:35:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g91804K15308 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:00:04 +0100 Message-Id: <200210010800.g91804K15308@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: diveintomark Subject: Colophon 3 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:00:04 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/10/01.html#colophon_3 Date: 2002-10-01T00:23:58-05:00 _Dean Allen_: About the author[1]. “The funniest thing Dean has ever witnessed was some footage of narcoleptic dogs in a Nova documentary on sleep disorders.” [1] http://www.textism.com/about/",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Mon Sep 30 10:55:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F1C16F16 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:55:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:55:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8S4Hlg13281 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 05:17:47 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F023F135; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1563F050 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8S4A3327814 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:10:03 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8S4A3f27810 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:10:03 -0400 Received: from dimebox.bmc.com (adsl-66-140-152-233.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [66.140.152.233]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8S3pii26259 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:51:44 -0400 Received: by dimebox.bmc.com (Postfix, from userid 1205) id BE1FB37EAA; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:09:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dimebox.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dimebox.bmc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B169637EA9 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:09:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 In-Reply-To: References: Comments: In-reply-to Paul Menage message dated ""Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:34:14 -0700."" To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Help! I've lost my exmh-unseen window! MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hal DeVore X-Image-Url: http://www.geocities.com/hal_devore_ii/haleye48.gif Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <15850.1033186192@dimebox.bmc.com> X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:09:52 -0500 >>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, ""Paul"" == Paul Menage wrote: Paul> so you don't really need the unseen window unless you're Paul> using more sequences than just ""unseen"". I use a virtual window manager and keep the main exmh window and the detached folder list on one virtual desktop but the unseen window is set to show on all desktops. Got no help for the problems, but just pointing out why some of us find the unseen window invaluable. --Hal _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Fri Oct 4 11:02:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE4116F6C for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:01:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:01:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9480fK08823 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:00:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200210040800.g9480fK08823@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: 'Flipping' Goldman fingered Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:00:41 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-5,8535465,215/ Date: 2002-10-04T02:39:00+01:00 *Business:* Congressional report offers damaging summary of bank's dotcom boom years.",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Sat Oct 5 12:37:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E867A16F16 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:37:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:37:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9580oK02570 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:00:50 +0100 Message-Id: <200210050800.g9580oK02570@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: Bosnia goes it alone for first full poll Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 08:00:50 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-6,8572781,215/ Date: 2002-10-05T03:05:36+01:00 *World latest:* Hardliners battle for control of divided parliaments and presidency.",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Fri Sep 13 13:36:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568FD16F03 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:36:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:36:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8DBXaC16246 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:33:37 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67FE3EA26; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2401C401C5 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8DBW9904558 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:32:09 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8DBW9k04554 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:32:09 -0400 Received: from hobbit.linuxworks.com.au (CPE-203-51-196-87.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.51.196.87]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8DBFTw26632 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:15:29 -0400 Received: (from tony@localhost) by hobbit.linuxworks.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8DBUZL24217; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:30:35 +1000 Message-Id: <200209131130.g8DBUZL24217@hobbit.linuxworks.com.au.nospam> To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org From: Tony Nugent X-Face: ]IrGs{LrofDtGfsrG!As5=G'2HRr2zt:H>djXb5@v|Dr!jOelxzAZ`!}(""]}] Q!)1w#X;)nLlb'XhSu,QL>;)L/l06wsI?rv-xy6%Y1e""BUiV%)mU;]f-5<#U6 UthZ0QrF7\_p#q}*Cn}jd|XT~7P7ik]Q!2u%aTtvc;)zfH\:3f<[a:)M Organization: Linux Works for network X-Mailer: nmh-1.0.4 exmh-2.4 X-Os: Linux-2.4 RedHat 7.2 In-Reply-To: message-id <26495.1031914530@munnari.OZ.AU> of Fri, Sep 13 17:55:30 2002 Subject: Re: bad focus/click behaviours X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:30:34 +1000 On Fri Sep 13 2002 at 17:55, Robert Elz wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:26:30 +1000 > From: Tony Nugent > | I can cut'n'paste from exmh's message display window into spawned > | gvim processes, but not into anything else. > > That's odd. I cut & paste between all kinds of windows (exmh into Not so odd, this issue came up several weeks ago (with no real resolution). > mozilla, xterm, another wish script of mine I use for DNS tasks (but > that one I guess is to be expected) netscape (when I used to use it, > but I suppose it and mozilla are the same codebase, approx) - in fact > I can't thing of anything it fails for, that I have noticed. > > What is an example of an ""anything else"" that it fails for for you? Everything else :) I can't even mark text in an exmh message window and then paste it into a terminal window, the cut buffer seems to be completely empty (and its previous contents are no longer there either). > kre BTW: talking of spring downunder... I'm in Queensland. It almost feels like early summer already (winters here are dry and warm, much better than cold wet miserable Melbourne :-) Despite some recent rain (first in months), we are already into a drought, with an El-Nino on the way it is only going to get worse... (the last one in the 90s caused one of the worst droughts ever seen here in aussie). Cheers Tony _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:24:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D85816F6B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:23:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:23:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9380KK19938 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:00:26 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030800.g9380KK19938@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: diveintomark Subject: Insanely complicated Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:00:20 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/10/02.html#insanely_complicated Date: 2002-10-02T09:34:51-05:00 _Ian Hickson_: My faceless enemy has been defeated[1]. “My arch nemesis over the last couple of weeks has been the very poorly documented Hebrew Traditional Numbering System.” [1] http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1033524738&count=1",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Sat Sep 21 10:42:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E77D16F03 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:42:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:42:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8L1VlC02067 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:31:47 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA6529417E; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4C729417F for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.61.113.164] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020921013046.UJKD21615.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[24.61.113.164]> for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:30:46 +0000 From: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: bitbitch@magnesium.net X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <63161136381.20020920213031@magnesium.net> To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Fwd: Re[2]: AA Meetings the Hottest Place to Meet Women With Big Bucks In-Reply-To: <162160870749.20020920212606@magnesium.net> References: <162160870749.20020920212606@magnesium.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:30:31 -0400 And of course I forget the link that I did find. http://www.constitutioncenter.org/sections/news/8b4.asp Neither NPR nor the first amendment foundation seem to have the article I was looking for declaring the study. Even if its half true, its still frightening. It makes me want to pass out CATO bibles... -- Best regards, bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Sep 26 16:43:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3016F6C for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:42:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:42:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QFWBg25116 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:32:11 +0100 Message-Id: <200209261532.g8QFWBg25116@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: newscientist Subject: Balloon flight challenges deflate Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:32:11 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-3,8251868,1440/ Date: Not supplied Technical problems beat a transatlantic record attempt, as the weather beats an altitude record attempt - for now",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Oct 2 11:43:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6B216F16 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:43:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:43:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9280OK31670 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:00:25 +0100 Message-Id: <200210020800.g9280OK31670@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: diveintomark Subject: There are four lights Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 08:00:24 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/10/01.html#there_are_four_lights Date: 2002-10-01T12:53:57-05:00 One year ago today, my (now former) manager told me to shut down my weblog and remove all traces of it from my server. He tried to convince me that the Internet was too small to mix the professional[1] and the personal[2]. One year ago today, I gave him my answer[3], and the rest is history[4]. Today, to celebrate this anniversary, I would like everyone to read my resume [5], admire this full-screen picture of my cat[6], and link to this post[7]. There are four lights. [1] http://diveintopython.org/ Dive Into Python [2] http://diveintomark.org/archives/2001/09/22.html#addiction_is dive into mark 9/22/2001: [3] http://diveintomark.org/archives/2001/10/01.html#write dive into mark 10/1/2001: [4] http://diveintomark.org/archives/2001/10/ dive into mark October 2001 archives [5] http://diveintomark.org/resume/resume.html my resume in HTML format [6] http://diveintomark.org/images/j.jpg J, 1024 x 768 [7] http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/10/01.html#there_are_four_lights permanent link to this post",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Fri Sep 27 10:41:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BF216F16 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:41:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:41:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8R80sg00720 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:00:54 +0100 Message-Id: <200209270800.g8R80sg00720@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: fark Subject: Man finds lost marbles after 70 years.... 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List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Fri Sep 6 11:38:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391BB16F1C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:37:36 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:37:36 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g869puC29076 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:51:56 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19323 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:51:59 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D082A40C27; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D1B4025A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85Mvlb14608 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:57:47 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g85Mvkl14604 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:57:46 -0400 Received: from ka.graffl.net (ka.graffl.net [193.154.165.8]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g85Mfk121532 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:41:49 -0400 Received: from fsck.waldner.priv.at (fsck.waldner.priv.at [213.225.31.166]) by ka.graffl.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g85MvaYU031202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:57:37 +0200 Received: from fsck.intern.waldner.priv.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fsck.waldner.priv.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g85MvZWb002051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:57:35 +0200 Received: (from waldner@localhost) by fsck.intern.waldner.priv.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) id g85MvZm0002050 for exmh-users@redhat.com; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:57:35 +0200 Message-Id: <200209052257.g85MvZm0002050@fsck.intern.waldner.priv.at> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 (debian 2.5-1) with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Changed location of incoming mail. exmh not working!! In-Reply-To: Your message of ""Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:40:53 PDT."" <200209052140.g85Ler718109@siva.sandcraft.com> From: Robert Waldner X-Organization: Bah. Speaking only for me humble self. X-GPG: telnet fsck.waldner.priv.at for public key X-GPG-Fingerprint: 406F 241A 9E21 CF92 1DED A0A8 1343 7348 9AF9 DE82 X-GPG-Keyid: 0x9AF9DE82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""----------=_1031266655-417-16""; micalg=""pgp-sha1""; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 00:57:32 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. It has been signed conforming to RFC2015. You'll need PGP or GPG to check the signature. ------------=_1031266655-417-16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:40:53 PDT, Siva Doriaswamy writes: >Recently, my incoming mail (or spool) location moved to another disk. >I'm not quite clear how to reconfigure procmail/rcvstore/exmh to accept >mail from the new location. How do you feed procmail? Not with a .forward, I'd guess. How does mail enter your system anyway? Per fetchmail maybe? Or direct SMTP-delivery? Or does it just magically hit your spool? Lotsa questions... cheers, &rw -- -- Booze: because one doesn't solve the world's problems over white wine. ------------=_1031266655-417-16 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=""signature.ng"" Content-Disposition: inline; filename=""signature.ng"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9d+FfE0NzSJr53oIRAtvLAJ9Dq7N0j3WXKRCwPClW+S3mc9uvjACfc8F1 tcsFzzucvnl9rvSegUfuBZU= =G2/X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------=_1031266655-417-16-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Jul 26 04:14:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1018440E7 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 04:14:05 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q3EH420499 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 04:14:18 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3761294107; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp1.auracom.net (smtp1.auracom.net [165.154.140.23]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEAF2940E2 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maya.dyndns.org (ts5-013.ptrb.interhop.net [165.154.190.77]) by smtp1.auracom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g6Q2hSE04548 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by maya.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id EDD261C39A; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:51:21 -0400 (EDT) To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Asteroids anyone ? References: <001301c23359$d8208130$0100a8c0@PETER> <2784.192.216.194.113.1027554358.squirrel@webmail.magnesium.net> <20020725154846.M85654@networkcommand.com> From: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Home-Page: http://www.teledyn.com Organization: TCI Business Innovation through Open Source Computing Message-Id: Reply-To: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Url: http://www.teledyn.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 25 Jul 2002 22:51:21 -0400 >>>>> ""J"" == Jon O writes: J> Has anyone considered the fact that these occurrances appear to J> be increasing. I'm aware that maybe more publicity surrounding J> some and certain agencies have been granted more funding, but J> I'd like to see some data which shows if these are increasing J> or not. I've seen data that shows 1200 rocks (TV-set sized and smaller) crashing into the Ottawa skies /every/ /single/ /night/, and that's just the background noise. Plots of that data show us passing through hundreds of 'tubes' of debris, each indicative of some other larger something out there, only a small handful of which have been discovered. This is without even considering the one's headed this way out of the Oort for their First Big Trip. One thing you will just have to get used to is hearing news of a possible collision; we have only started funding the projects to look for these things since Hollywood took an interest with Armageddon, and we have only just recently turned on a bunch of new toys to do automated sky surveys. There are also some new (and very clever) amateur projects co-ordinating multiple telescopes to detect these criters, one of which plans to network dozens of ground based machines around the world. You may remember a few years back the 2028 doomsday story -- consider them good ghost stories, then go back to work. 20,000 years ago, one of them the size of Mt Everest just ever so slightly grazed us and left a scar 400km long in the side of South America before it scooted out into space. First nations people would have been there then, and it would have seriously ruined their day. Orbital elements tell us that our modern technology would have perhaps given us 90-min advance warning. The near-miss earlier this month wasn't seen until it was already past us; we can't detect rocks on their trip behind the Sun, and when they come out slingshot to relativistic speeds, well, it's just too darn late to do much of anything about it. On the inbound trip, even at their max full-moon angle, these things are most often magnitude 16 or way worse, which is many magnitudes fainter than what you see in the deepest dark-skies; no one thought to paint them shiny and white. They day before it ""hits"" my software says NT7 will be magnitude 14 -- it's easier to see the space station. What's worse, the Sun is not a smooth hard spheric marble, it's a twisted gelatinous hunk o' hunk o' burnin' love, so the precise warp curve of space right near it's backside is (ahem) somewhat problematic to compute precisely. It's also spewing considerable plasma flux in all directions, and then there's all these other big gelatinous roaming globs (Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune) and some significant roaming rubble (us), and damn it, they are all spinning too, and most of them have a magnetosphere! Shit. Forget it. Learn to play the banjo. Take peppermint Rye-Kee Shee-At-Zoo relaxation therapy and oodles of Ag-nasial I&I-drop suppliments, eat no kind of frozen portion, and floss. Good planets are real hard to find, so enjoy the one you got while it's here. Call your ma. Do an anonymous kindness for your better half, another for a total stranger. Having all the best toys is useless when they all spontaneously combust from a global Wormwood shockwave. You should be diggin' it while it's happenin' Like, just live your life like there's no tomorrow, ok? Don't bank on being able to redeem yourself later. Yeah, sure, Osama could whack you with some nail-coated fuel-air bombs, heck a mis-informed TopGun could do it too, but the Good Lord could do it too, with pure, clean and galactically EnviroFriendly kinetic energy, and He don't stand in line for no Airport Security Check. Hell, fire and brimstone are classically given in the reverse order; best to be on the impact side of the planet. Learn to stop worrying and love the Rock. Besides, the rats and cockroaches will survive, and they already know how to kickstart evolution right back into Enrons, WorldComs and Calcuttas. They even have all our wiring and plumbing diagrams and half of our socks. Are we going to get hit? Yup. When? Every 65 million years and, oh my lord, will you /look/ at the time! Where/what/when? Space is pretty big. Take the largest thing you can imagine, double it, and add 10%: That is just the local pancake region between us and the Sun. There's the whole rest of the disk of the ecliptic and, which is where the NT7 observation came from, it has only recently occurred to the meteor hunters to ""look up"" (or down); almost the first shot looking /out/ of the ecliptic disk, and hoo-whee there's this big sucker on an ""11 tries for a dollar"" close encounter of the smack-em-good kind. This is what I love about astrophysics: we have theories as good as anyone else (way better than psychology), and we debate and argue and expound and conference and bellow and blurt about them, but every time we turn on some new kind of robot sensor device to actually /look/ at Reality, well she slaps us right in the face and says in her best Mae West ""Guess again, boys"" -- no other science gets that chance (ok, maybe some do) and there is nothing, _nothing_ more worthless than last semester's astronomy text. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com ""Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.""(Pablo Picasso) http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 2 16:22:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2E34415E for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 16:22:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g82DZtZ03051 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:35:56 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9302940A0; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 06:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from homer.perfectpresence.com (unknown [209.123.207.194]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D3D294099 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 06:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-154-230-7.jax.bellsouth.net ([68.154.230.7] helo=regina) by homer.perfectpresence.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17lrM4-00041F-00 for fork@xent.com; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 09:35:00 -0400 From: ""Geege Schuman"" To: Subject: Er Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Antiabuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse: Primary Hostname - homer.perfectpresence.com X-Antiabuse: Original Domain - xent.com X-Antiabuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-Antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - barrera.org Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:33:47 -0400 use this address instead, please. prerogatively, geege",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:24:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0583016F76 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:23:54 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:23:54 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93820K20019 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:02:01 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030802.g93820K20019@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: Currie returns to pile scorn on Major Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:02:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/215,4,215/ Date: 2002-10-03T04:21:03+01:00 *Politics:* Ex-lover tours studios to denounce former PM.",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Jul 25 11:10:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93D5440D8 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:09:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6P2ab425874 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:36:37 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0535D294169; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp1.auracom.net (smtp1.auracom.net [165.154.140.23]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB822294161 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maya.dyndns.org (ts5-017.ptrb.interhop.net [165.154.190.81]) by smtp1.auracom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g6P2ACO11408 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by maya.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6A12D1C39A; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:15:53 -0400 (EDT) To: fork Subject: Ah ... so they ARE coming for your porn next ... 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    ",1 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Aug 12 11:07:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377914415E for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:56:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7C59ub30453 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:09:56 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26751; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:08:57 +0100 Received: from puma.dub0.ie.cp.net ([62.17.137.250]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26714 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:08:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [62.17.137.250] claimed to be puma.dub0.ie.cp.net Received: from AHOLM.elivefree.net (10.40.2.248) by puma.dub0.ie.cp.net (6.7.009) id 3D4AB18800007DF5; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:08:06 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020812060425.026632b0@mail.elivefree.net> X-Sender: anders.holm@mail.elivefree.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:05:32 +0100 To: ""Damian O' Sullivan"" , ""'Albert White - SUN Ireland'"" , ilug@linux.ie From: Anders Holm Subject: RE: [ILUG] Sparc Solaris (was: Dell GX260 V Redhat 7.3) In-Reply-To: <214A52C16E44D51186FB00508BB83E0F7C0D60@w2k-server.bcs.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii""; format=flowed Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Hi Damian. SuSe has a Sparc version I previously been running on a Sun Ultra 5 at least. Worked fine, albeit a bit slow... ;) //Anders At 14:32 09/08/2002, Damian O' Sullivan wrote: >I use gnome here on half a dozen sunray 150 boxen. Been trying to get linux >on them for along time with mixed results.. Has anyone succeeded in this? > > > -> It does work on SunRays. Just install it normally on the > > server, the sun > > install will make the necessary changes to the dtlogin screen > > and you can just > > select gnome from there. AFAIK you can do this for any window > > manager. But I > > don't admin sunray servers so I'm not fully aware of the > > issues or exact > > requirements. > > > > Cheers, > > ~Al > > > > >-- >Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie >http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. >List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Oct 2 11:43:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9542916F03 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:43:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:43:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92826K31757 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:02:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200210020802.g92826K31757@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: US rejects Iraq inspections deal Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 08:02:06 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-3,8457381,215/ Date: 2002-10-02T04:58:04+01:00 The US has rejected an agreement between Iraq and the United Nations on arms inspections, vowing to block the inspectors' return unless they are backed with threats of military force.",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 6 14:42:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5D44138 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 14:41:10 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g76DgOk32640 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:42:24 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00834; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:39:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from pheriche.sun.com (pheriche.sun.com [192.18.98.34]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00799 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:39:07 +0100 Received: from sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM ([129.156.220.30]) by pheriche.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21335 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:39:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sionnach.ireland.sun.com (sionnach [129.156.220.28]) by sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id g76Dd4l08850 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:39:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from sionnach (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sionnach.ireland.sun.com (8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g76Dd4fE009771 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:39:04 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200208061339.g76Dd4fE009771@sionnach.ireland.sun.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: ilug@linux.ie From: Albert White - SUN Ireland Subject: Re: [ILUG] ffs In-Reply-To: Your message of ""Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:19:41 +1000."" <20020806131941.89321.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 14:39:04 +0100 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Hi, > has anyone got information on enabling ffs support in > the kernel, i was looking around, and information on > the subject seems to be sparse. I have no clue about ffs but... In the 2.4 kernel source Documentation/Configure.help there are various kernel options CONFIG_JFF* that enable it. http://developer.axis.com/software/jffs/ and http://sources.redhat.com/jffs2/ are the URLs cited in that documentation. They have links to mailing lists and archives which may be able to answer more specific questions. If you mean Amiga ffs, then thats selectable in the kernel config also :) Cheers, ~Al -- Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems. Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may be fiction rather than truth. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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The right to speak is not the same as the right to be heard by the audience of the speakers choice. Disruptive protests might be a means to create awareness - but that's a pretty lame way to do it. If it truly is the only way, then I'm all for it, but disruption for the sake of showing how committed the protesters are is pretty weak.",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Sep 26 16:42:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58A816F6F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QFUOg24832 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:30:24 +0100 Message-Id: <200209261530.g8QFUOg24832@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: morbus Subject: Two New AmphetaDesk Hacks Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:30:24 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: 4538e94b3b2c6b19041756b37b1f9916 Date: Not supplied Since the AmphetaDesk source code is so easily modifiable on any platform, I've been seeing some interesting hacks and modifications lately. The most powerful of them is l.m. orchard's newest template[1], which provides an insane amount of new features, including hiding old items, click counting, and an outline based format. More than likely, a revised version of his hack will appear as a selectable template in the next version (AmphetaDesk v0.94). Also of interest is Brian Cantoni's FTPStore[2]: _""FTPstore is a slight addition to the AmphetaDesk news aggregator. The modified code will retrieve the personal channel list from an FTP location during startup and store it back to the same location during shutdown. This provides a simple method to keep your saved channels in a network location. If you use AmphetaDesk at home and at work, for example, this feature will let you keep your list of channels in sync.""_ It's a major improvement for AmphetaDesk users with multiple machines. [1] http://www.decafbad.com/news_archives/000228.phtml [2] http://www.cantoni.org/software/amphetadesk.html",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 5 12:39:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE6D16F22 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:39:21 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:39:21 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85BIUZ16473 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:18:30 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17mucI-0006th-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 04:16:06 -0700 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17muc0-0002ux-00 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 04:15:49 -0700 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17mubx-0001pe-0D; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:15:45 +0200 Received: from nebukadnezar.msquadrat.de (520061089980-0001@[217.80.6.207]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 17mubq-0pKN0KC; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:15:38 +0200 Received: from otherland (otherland.msquadrat.de [10.10.10.10]) by nebukadnezar.msquadrat.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386)) with ESMTP id 92DF53BF4 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: ""Malte S. Stretz"" To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [SAtalk] PerMsgStatus.pm error? User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: X-Accept-Language: de, en X-Habeas-Swe-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-Swe-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-Swe-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-Swe-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-Swe-7: Warrant Mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-Swe-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-Swe-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200209051318.24194@malte.stretz.eu.org> X-Sender: 520061089980-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:18:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:18:24 +0200 On Thursday 05 September 2002 04:10 CET Mike Burger wrote: > Just loaded up SA 2.40 from Theo's RPMs...spamassassin-2.40-1 and > perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.40-1 on a RH 7.1 system with perl 5.6.1 running > on it. > > I'm getting messages that seem to indicate that SA can't find > PerMsgStatus, like so: > > Sep 4 21:01:59 burgers spamd[17579]: Failed to run CTYPE_JUST_HTML > SpamAssassin test, skipping: ^I(Can't locate object method > ""check_for_content_type_just_html"" via package > ""Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus"" (perhaps you forgot to load > ""Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus""?) at > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line > 1814, line 21. ) > >[...] > > Any ideas? Perl doesn't complain that it can't find PerMsgStatus.pm but the function check_for_content_type_just_html(). Do you probably have some old rules files still lurking around? This test existed in 2.31 but is gone/was renamed with 2.40. Malte -- -- Coding is art. -- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? 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    Enter here and see how ",1 "From exmh-users-admin@redhat.com Wed Sep 11 13:43:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6806516F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:43:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:43:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8ANseC22497 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:54:41 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F893EA8B; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-users@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8613EA78 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8ANsem12415 for exmh-users@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:54:40 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8ANsek12411 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:54:40 -0400 Received: from lin12.triumf.ca (IDENT:DxS4pR8U5YoPdULv16q3n6j+mSk51O0Y@lin12.Triumf.CA [142.90.114.144]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8ANcGw29293 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:38:16 -0400 Received: from lin12.triumf.ca (baartman@localhost) by lin12.triumf.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8ANscL17172 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:54:38 -0700 Message-Id: <200209102354.g8ANscL17172@lin12.triumf.ca> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 X-Url: http://www.triumf.ca/people/baartman/ X-Image-Url: http://lin12.triumf.ca/me3.gif To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Sorting In-Reply-To: <200209102131.RAA22275@blackcomb.panasas.com> References: <200209102131.RAA22275@blackcomb.panasas.com> <200209092111.g89LBH703076@lin12.triumf.ca> <200209092354.g89Ns8g04304@lin12.triumf.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Rick Baartman X-Loop: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-users-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: exmh-users@spamassassin.taint.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:54:38 -0700 Thanks Brent: now it's clearer (to me) what's needed. I've used the global sort and J C Lawrence's re-scan, but there is still a vulnerability there: If I have an instance of exmh running, the folder I'm visiting will have its new, correct .xmhcache overwritten with an incorrect one when I switch folders. I can cron the sort and re-scan process, but I should kill running exmh's first. Best would be to have a button for ""Global sort and update all scan caches"" in the exmh More... menu -- rick >>>>> ""Brent"" == Brent Welch >>>>> wrote the following on Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:31:48 -0700 Brent> There is an ""Update all scan caches"" menu entry that rescans your Brent> folders similar to the short scripts folks have shared around. It Brent> runs in the background. _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Mon Sep 30 13:37:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4581516F03 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:37:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:37:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8T81Ug03483 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:01:30 +0100 Message-Id: <200209290801.g8T81Ug03483@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: ask Subject: Mac OS X browsers Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 08:01:30 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/archives/2002/09/07.html Date: 2002-09-07T22:25:08-08:00 Rael is plagued by MSIE instability on Mac OS X. I use a recent nightly build of Chimera as my default browser. 0.4 has some issues with plugins (or with QuickTime anyway) on 10.2, but the 0.5 builds are working great. Fast too! Mozilla is ugly. MSIE is slow and unstable. Opera (on OS X) doesn't render too many pages. OmniWeb and iCab are not keeping up. Chimera rocks. I have used ChimeraKnight to do the updating. It also makes...",0 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Wed Sep 11 21:52:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2055B16F03 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:52:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:52:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BKhcC31373 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:43:38 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0312B408EB; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11BB3F5C6 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8BKfWH05116 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:41:32 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8BKfWk05112 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:41:32 -0400 Received: from qiclab.scn.rain.com (postfix@qiclab.scn.rain.com [205.238.26.97]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8BKP3w11308 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:25:03 -0400 Received: by qiclab.scn.rain.com (Postfix, from userid 177) id DBB6324E06A; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) >Received: by joseph.doink.com (Postfix, from userid 11334) id 348DD2FEAB; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dOink.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joseph.doink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113BA4BDC3; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Hacksaw Cc: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Reply-To: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Message-Flag: After so many viruses, why are you still using Outlook? X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: exmh bug? In-Reply-To: <200209112011.g8BKB71c016315@habitrail.home.fools-errant.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kevin Cosgrove Message-Id: <20020911202630.348DD2FEAB@joseph.doink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:26:27 -0700 Here's a message that works fine for me: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: kevinc@doink.com Subject: gpg test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/x-pgp; format=mime; x-action=encrypt; x-recipients=""D165C0CC, D165C0CC"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:18:58 -0700 From: Kevin Cosgrove Message-Id: <20020911201900.492892FEAB@joseph.doink.com> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 10/15/1999 blah, blah, blah -----END PGP MESSAGE----- It could be that your content type of text/plain is messing you up. Your config stuff looks substantially the same as mine. Cheers.... On 11 September 2002 at 16:11, Hacksaw wrote: You may assume the X's were originally a valid address. X-em-version: 5, 0, 0, 4 X-em-registration: #01E0520310450300B900 X-priority: 3 X-mailer: My Own Email v4.00 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Discussion From: ""XXXXXXX"" Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 05:47:46 -0500 (06:47 EDT) To: hacksaw@hacksaw.org *gpgRfc822: 0 *gpgChooseKey: 1 *gpgRunTwice: 1 *gpgCacheIds: persistent *gpgMinMatch: 75 *gpgShowInline: none *gpgShortMessages: 1 *gpgAutoExtract: 1 *gpgKeyServer: pgp-public-keys@keys.pgp.net *gpgKeyQueryMethod: hkp *gpgHKPKeyServerUrl: keys.pgp.com *gpgKeyServerURL: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/htbin/pks-extract-key.pl?op =get&search=0x%s *gpgKeyOtherMethod: exec echo ""can't find $id"" > $tmp *gpgComment: Exmh version 2.5 08/15/2002 *gpgModulePath: /usr/lib/gnupg *gpgCipherMods: skipjack idea *gpgDigestMods: tiger *gpgPubkeyMods: rsa *gpgPgp5Compatibility: 1 *gpgCipherAlgo: 3des *gpgDigestAlgo: sha1 *gpgCompressAlgo: zip _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From alana8802f25@wu-wien.ac.at Wed Sep 11 13:57:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by zzzzason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2359916F03 for ; 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(A&E, 8 pm EDT) who has seen the original? if it's airing now on the west coast, do catch it. gg",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 23 18:32:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67F216F03 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:32:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:32:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8NGhxC25817 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:44:00 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768F82940E3; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from sunserver.permafrost.net (u172n16.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.172.16]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57C729409A for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.198] (helo=permafrost.net) by sunserver.permafrost.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17tWA9-00072J-00; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:34:21 -0300 Message-Id: <3D8F4288.2000103@permafrost.net> From: Owen Byrne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Geege Schuman , Gary Lawrence Murphy , ""Mr. FoRK"" , fork@xent.com, Digital Bearer Settlement List Subject: Re: Comrade Communism (was Re: Crony Capitalism (was RE: sed /s/United States/Roman Empire/g)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:34:16 -0300 R. A. Hettinga wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >At 11:15 AM -0400 on 9/22/02, Geege Schuman wrote: > > > > >>Most of them seem to have Ivy League educations, or are Ivy League >>dropouts suggesting to me that they weren't exactly poor to start >>with. >> >> > >Actually, if I remember correctly from discussion of the list's >composition in Forbes about five or six years ago, the *best* way to >get on the Forbes 400 is to have *no* college at all. Can you say >""Bootstraps"", boys and girls? I knew you could... > > Sure - discussion in Forbes - rigorous research, that. Especially when the data in their own list contradicts them. I continue to look at the list and all the ""inherited, growed"" entries. I guess if I read it enough times my vision will clear. >[Given that an undergraduate liberal arts degree from a state school, >like, say, mine, :-), is nothing but stuff they should have taught >you in a government-run ""high"" school, you'll probably get more of >*those* on the Forbes 400 as well as time goes on. If we ever get >around to having a good old fashioned government-collapsing >transfer-payment depression (an economic version of this summer's >government-forest conflagration, caused by the same kind of >innumeracy that not clear-cutting enough forests did out west this >summer :-)) that should motivate more than a few erst-slackers out >there, including me, :-), to learn to actually feed themselves.] > > >The *next* category on the Forbes 400 list is someone with a >""terminal"" professional degree, like an MBA, PhD, MD, etc., from the >best school possible. > >Why? Because, as of about 1950, the *best* way to get into Harvard, >for instance, is to be *smart*, not rich. Don't take my word for it, >ask their admissions office. Look at the admissions stats over the >years for proof. > > I, at on point, looked into Stanford Business School. After learning that tuition was > 20K, no financial aid was available, and part-time work was disallowed, this smart person decided that I was not willing to spend the $150 application fee (non-refundable). During attendance at my local business school, I was told repeatedly I should have gone for it - to quote a prof, (Northwestern MBA), it has nothing to do with the education you receive - in general European (and Canadian) business schools are better and more innovative - its the connections. He used the words ""American nobility."" >Meritocracy, American Style, was *invented* at the Ivy League after >World War II. Even Stanford got the hint, :-), and, of course, >Chicago taught them all how, right? :-). Practically *nobody* who >goes to a top-20 American institution of higher learning can actually >afford to go there these days. Unless, of course, their parents, who >couldn't afford to go there themselves, got terminal degrees in the >last 40 years or so. And their kids *still* had to get the grades, >and ""biased"" (by intelligence :-)), test scores, to get in. > > ""invented"" being the right word. Dubya went to Yale and HBS. I guess ""practically"" gets you around that problem. > >The bizarre irony is that almost all of those people with ""terminal"" >degrees, until they actually *own* something and *hire* people, or >learn to *make* something for a living all day on a profit and loss >basis, persist in the practically insane belief, like life after >death, that economics is some kind of zero sum game, that dumb people >who don't work hard for it make all the money, and, if someone *is* >smart, works hard, and is rich, then they stole their wealth somehow. > >BTW, none of you guys out there holding the short end of this >rhetorical stick can blame *me* for the fact that I'm using it to >beat you severely all over your collective head and shoulders. You >were, apparently, too dumb to grab the right end. *I* went to >Missouri, and *I* don't have a degree in anything actually useful, >much less a ""terminal"" one, which means *I*'m broker than anyone on >this list -- it's just that *you*, of all people, lots with >educations far surpassing my own, should just plain know better. The >facts speak for themselves, if you just open your eyes and *look*. >There are no epicycles, the universe does not orbit the earth, and >economics is not a zero-sum game. The cost of anything, including >ignorance and destitution, is the forgone alternative, in this case, >intelligence and effort. > >[I will, however, admit to being educated *waay* past my level of >competence, and, by the way *you* discuss economics, so have you, >apparently.] > > > Its interesting but in this part of the World (Nova Scotia) a recent study found that college graduates earn less than graduates of 2 year community colleges (trade schools). They did decline to mention that the demand for some trades is so great that some of them are demanding university degrees to get in. Just for the record - the average salary for a university graduate (including advanced degree holders) here is C$ 21,000 -- < $14,000 US. No wonder half of San Francisco has set up here - we have a whole whack of call centers that have arrived here in the last couple of years - I think they hire some entry level IT people for around $10 ($6 US) an hour, which of course, fits perfectly for me - my entry level job, in 1986, paid $11.00 an hour. The fundamental difference is that most of the jobs that require a trade are *unionized*.In other words, in this part of the world, for the vast majority of people, union dues are a better investment than tuition. The counter-argument to this is that many college graduates leave for better work elsewhere, but the counter-counter argument is that we are the thin edge (one of several really - prison labor in the US would be another) of third-world wages and work practices coming to North America. I worked at a company that had a 14-year wage freeze. The fact that they could maintain that (and prosper) just says volumes about the economy in this part of the world. I met many people there, like me, who felt that was fine, I can vote with my feet. They didn't quite realize that just about every large employer in the area has similar, or worse, policies. Anyway eventually they started a union drive. During the vote, retired employees were brought in by the employer (rumours were that they were paid the going rate for a vote around here - a bottle of rum) and somehow allowed to vote . The union filed a grievance - which was denied - by a Minister of Labour, who, hey, guess what - used to be a VP at the company. That's free labor markets at work. The business continues to prosper - as I was told when I was there - it is a cash cow as long as the JOA (Joint Operating Agreement) with the competing paper is in place. And if you think that any of those wonderful American companies, out of some free-enterprise belief in competing for the best talent, are going to do anything about that, sorry, most of them received generous subsidies, in return, I'm sure, for an understanding about the labor markets here. > >BTW, if we ever actually *had* free markets in this country, >*including* the abolition of redistributive income and death taxes, >all those smart people in the Forbes 400 would have *more* money, and >there would be *more* self-made people on that list. In addition, >most of the people who *inherited* money on the list would have >*much* less of it, not even relatively speaking. Finally, practically >all of that ""new"" money would have come from economic efficiency and >not ""stolen"" from someone else, investment bubbles or not. > >That efficiency is called ""progress"", for those of you in The >People's Republics of Berkeley or Cambridge. It means more and better >stuff, cheaper, over time -- a terrible, petit-bourgeois concept >apparently not worthy of teaching by the educational elite, or you'd >know about it by now. In economic terms, it's also called an increase >in general welfare, and, no, Virginia, I'm not talking about >extorting money from someone who works, and giving it to someone who >doesn't in order to keep them from working and they can think of some >politician as Santa Claus come election time... > > Much as I like to accept what you say - I do believe in free markets , I have difficulty finding any - except of course for labor markets, which governments go to great lengths to protect (well unless the supply is tight) It was a great run with the technology industry - producing most of the self-made billionaires on the list, but now we've got a government-sponsored monopoly, and the concept of ""more stuff, cheaper"" which it has always promised - seems to be disappearing. A particularly galling example is high-speed internet access. An article I read a couple of years ago that it is an area where the pricing approaches of the IT industry (cheaper, better or you die) and the telecom industry (maintain your monopoly through regulation, and get guaranteed price increases through the same regulators) meet. Sadly to say, the telecom industry seems to have won. The whole entertainment industry/RIAA/Palladium thing seems to be another instance where actually giving value to the customer seems less important than using regulation to reduce competition and substitute products in order to produce profits for the favored few. > >In short, then, economics is not a zero sum game, property is not >theft, the rich don't get rich off the backs of the poor, and >redistributionist labor ""theory"" of value happy horseshit is just >that: horseshit, happy or otherwise. > >To believe otherwise, is -- quite literally, given the time Marx >wrote Capital and the Manifesto -- romantic nonsense. > > I usually agree - but when there's a Republican in office - I feel like they're the biggest believers in the Manifesto, in reverse. Create a reserve pool of labor, reduce the rights of that ""proletariat"" you've just created with bogus ""law and order"" policies , concentrate capital in the hands of a few (ideally people who can get you reelected) and the economy will take care of itself. Oh, and lie - use the word ""compassionate"" a lot. I guess I tend to believe that a certain amount of poverty reduction actually helps a modern capitalist state - the basic economic tenet of the Republic party seems to be the more homeless under each overpass, the more efficient the rest of us will be. And the facts are, for most people in the Western world are declining standards of living, declining benefits, disappearing social safety net, greater working hours, essentially since the entrance of women into the work force (not blaming women in any way, they have a right to work but its now 2 wage-earners in each family and still declining standards of living) is the reality. Again to quote that wonderfully liberal document I keep coming back to - the CIA world factbook - on the US economy: ""Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households"" Owen",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Jul 22 19:50:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4864440C9 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:50:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MHQY403544 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:26:35 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22824 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:47:44 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25916; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:46:58 +0100 Received: from mail.magicgoeshere.com (nw152-60.indigo.ie [194.125.152.60] (may be forged)) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25845 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:46:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host nw152-60.indigo.ie [194.125.152.60] (may be forged) claimed to be mail.magicgoeshere.com Received: from bagend.magicgoeshere.com (ts15-163.dublin.indigo.ie [194.125.176.163]) by mail.magicgoeshere.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E8FF8FD for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:31:33 +0100 (IST) Received: by bagend.magicgoeshere.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 14BB93C1AE; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:47:40 +0100 (IST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:47:39 +0100 From: Niall O Broin To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] GPL & PHP Question Message-Id: <20020719224739.GC3854@bagend.makalumedia.com> Reply-To: ilug@linux.ie Mail-Followup-To: Niall O Broin , ilug@linux.ie References: <200207192053.VAA32306@lugh.tuatha.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200207192053.VAA32306@lugh.tuatha.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:53:16PM +0100, awhalley@eircom.net wrote: > The setup is as follows: > I develop a piece of code using PHP 3.0.9 which is, to > my knowledge, GPL. PHP is released under the GPL, yes. > The piece of code runs on my server and is an integral part of a system > that I have developed for a client. I did not recieve payment for this > particular piece of code but I did recieve payment for the system. My client > now wants to use a different service provider but keep my code. > Do I have a right to claim intellectual property rights for my little > piece of code that he did not pay me for or do I have to give the client the > code under the GPL. Exactly what rights you would have to the code depends on the contractual arrangement you have with your client, and I'm betting that that's not at all cut and dried. However, I have been in this situation where a client was using code I developed and then decided that he should own the code. Push never came to shove (at least, not yet :-) ) but my understanding of the situation vis a vis software is that in the absence of any contract granting ownership of the code to another party, it remains with the person who wrote it. I didn't take legal advice on this but my customer did :-) and his lawyer told him that I was right and would most likely win in court. So much for the ownership of the code vis a vis you and your client - now for the GPL issues. Code compiled by a compiler which is GPL software (e.g. gcc) is not itself covered by the GPL unless its author chooses to make it so. This is perhaps not made clear enough in the GPL text and is a particular piece of FUD which Microsoft loves to toss about. Similarly, the copy of PHP which is part of your customer's system is covered by the GPL. You can charge him whatever you like for it but you must provide him with acces to the source code, and you cannot restrict what he can do with it (in this case, move it to another service provider). However, you have not (I take it) chosen to license YOUR code under the GPL so the conditions of the GPL do NOT apply to it. If OTOH you had written some code which modified PHP as such, and then distributed (whether for a fee or not) that modified PHP, then the modified code must be licensed under the GPL. But this applies to a modification to PHP itself and NOT to your scripts which run under PHP. The relevant clause is 2(b) which says (though Lord knows why I'm quoting when locate COPYING will turn up a shedload of copies of the GPL on just about any Linux box - 540 on this box) b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. Your PHP scripts do not contain, nor are they derived from, PHP, in whole or in part. > I know this is not strictly a 'Linux' issue but any help would be appreciated Microsoft has very much made this a Linux issue - it has attempted to imply that any company using GPL software must make everything it owns public and it must be true - that nice man from Microsoft wouldn't lie, would he ? Niall -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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    ",1 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Jul 29 11:27:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CAF44125 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:25:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RAF1i19229 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:15:01 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14444 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:30:28 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19657; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:30:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.18]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19581 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:28:43 +0100 Message-Id: <200207262228.XAA19581@lugh.tuatha.org> Received: (qmail 28021 messnum 30580 invoked from network[159.134.159.187/p443.as1.drogheda1.eircom.net]); 26 Jul 2002 22:26:57 -0000 Received: from p443.as1.drogheda1.eircom.net (HELO there) (159.134.159.187) by mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 28021) with SMTP; 26 Jul 2002 22:26:57 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-15"" From: John Gay To: ilug@linux.ie Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:24:30 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [ILUG] Optimizing for Pentium Pt.2 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie A while ago I asked what other packages I should optomize for Pentium. One person answered GlibC. This got me thinking about GCC itself, so I asked on another list and got a few answers, most were ""don't even think about it"" but a few suggested GCC and one pointed me to Linux From Scratch. After having a good search around the lfs site, I've decided I'm going to give it a whirl. I've got a spare box and loads of free time, so why not ;-) The lfs site, however warns NOT to use optimizations when compiling GCC or GlibC? A quick google found PGCC, a Pentium optimizing patch for GCC, but the site does not seem to have been updated in quite some time? So, my general plan, and I'm taking my time with this: Partition the hard drive for the lfs set-up with 4 partitions, /, /usr, /var and /home. Install a base Debian system into the /home partition so I can build the rest of the system into the other partitions. Using Debian, build the initial packages into the / and /usr partitions. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_2D6F23_01C23D65.BB2D3AD0--",1 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Jul 31 17:12:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EE5440A8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:11:58 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VG16232259 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:01:06 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14577; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:57:57 +0100 Received: from smtpout.xelector.com ([62.17.160.131]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14460 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:57:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [62.17.160.131] claimed to be smtpout.xelector.com Received: from [172.18.80.234] (helo=xeljreilly) by smtpout.xelector.com with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 17Zved-0000sZ-00 for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:44:51 +0100 Message-Id: <007601c238aa$61bcbcb0$ea5012ac@xelector.com> From: ""John Reilly"" To: References: <3D351C3E@webmail.ucc.ie> Subject: Re: [ILUG] removing lilo Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:53:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Lacking a DOS boot disk, I just looked for a different way to do it yesterday. You can use lilo -u /dev/hda Sourced via google search ""remove lilo"" which returned http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q315224& Much handier if you only have tomsrtbt or something similar. jr ----- Original Message ----- From: ""jac1"" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: [ILUG] removing lilo > hi, > i recently had to wipe linux from my pc but forgot to restore the original > MBR (NT). Anyone know how i can do this? linux is entirely gone and no boot > floppy. formatting the entire disk doesn't do it either. > > > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. > List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Wells"" To: Patrick Cc: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Authentication Error Message-Id: <20020724141339.GD3208@fsckit.net> References: <20020711084825.W60740-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> <20020723211828.Y98572-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020723211828.Y98572-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Copyright: This email is Copyright (c)2002 by razor-users@fsckit.net. All rights reserved. X-Bofh: Do you feel lucky? X-Jihad: I will hunt down all who spam my account. Try me. Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:13:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:13:40 -0400 On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 09:21:58PM -0700, Patrick is thought to have said: > Today's error(received multiple times) was: > > Jul 23 21:16:39.288680 report[98557]: [ 2] Razor-Agents v2.12 starting > razor-report ./jobspam > Jul 23 21:16:46.597147 report[98558]: [ 1] razor-report error: reportit: > Error 213 while authenticating, aborting. I believe this is fixed (or at least there's a workaround in place to try again) in 2.125 > I really like the concept of Razor but I find myself wondering if it's > really a good idea for the developers to be passing off what appears > to be alpha-quality software as production-ready.... 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The sins of 40 years ago have been compounded at the hands of two kinds of literally irrational fanatics, first those in religion, and now those in government. As a result, a large part of 10 million square feet of once perfectly usable office space, devoted, at least ostensibly, to commerce, will be ""granted"" away in a potlatch that only government, and special-interest ""communities"", (or ""stakeholders"", or whatever the cryptosocialist psycho-rabble call themselves this week) can organize to such perfection. All this in probably the *only* city in the country that was founded by a *business*, explicitly for the purpose of *commerce*. Not religious fanaticism. Not colonial expansion in a monarch's name. *Commerce*. If they *really* wanted to make a point to the superstitious luddites who collapsed those buildings (using probably the only sharp objects on a plane full of government-disarmed passengers) the so-called ""authority"" should disband itself and sell its property off to the highest bidder and let the *market* -- the cure to all luddism, foreign and domestic, government and superstitious -- decide. If the new, *private* owner wants to sell, or give away, a space for a memorial, fine. They could sell tickets and donate the money to the families of the dead and injured. Probably great for marketing the property, at least during the lifetime of anyone who remembers the event. And, of course, if the new owner wants to build something twice as tall, or with twice as much space than the original 10 million square feet, splendid. Whatever the market will bear. In these days of increasingly ubiquitous trans-national geodesic internetworks, of strong financial cryptography, and of exponentially decreasing transaction costs in formerly monolithic industries, economics and freedom can, and will, prevail over both superstition and statism. It's probably too much to hope for an actual market in lower Manhattan mega-real-estate to prevail this early in the game, but it's going to happen sooner or later. And, whenever it does, *that* will be a fitting memorial to those who died at the World Trade Center. Cheers, RAH - ------- http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB1031705210159756235,00.html The Wall Street Journal September 11, 2002 REVIEW & OUTLOOK A Living Memorial As we write these words, we can look down from our offices into the six-story crater where the Twin Towers once stood. Like everyone else, we want that site to be rebuilt in a way that honors those who died a year ago. But we also think the best memorial to those who perished would be a living one. The site of the World Trade Center calls forth many emotions, especially today: anger, grief and respect for the many acts of heroism that took place there. But underlying it all is the memory of the enormous vitality that distinguished the towers before they were attacked and was a large reason they were targeted. The best expression of the spirit of New York and of those who died would be to once again see thousands of people from dozens of countries working, meeting, shopping, eating -- that is, engaged in the sort of productive work and play that used to take place there. Osama bin Laden should not be allowed to have turned it into a cemetery. But restoring this memory is not what the discussion in New York has been about. So far no one is talking seriously about the vigorous rebuilding of downtown Manhattan, which lost 100,000 jobs when the Trade Center fell. Instead the discussion centers on the size and scale of the memorial, and on satisfying every political interest now clamoring for a piece of the action. New York's political leadership, and its financial and media elites, are squandering a historic chance to rebuild a better, more prosperous city. This is in part the fault of the commission tasked with figuring out what to do with the site. In consultation with New York Governor George Pataki, who is thinking primarily about his own November re-election, the commission made the decision to focus first on the memorial. The Manhattan Institute's Steve Malanga argues that the commission would have been better off setting aside a limited space for the memorial, getting on with the rebuilding and then returning to the memorial. This is in essence what the Pentagon has so successfully done -- rebuild immediately and set aside two acres for an outdoor memorial, a design for which has yet to be decided. A big part of the problem in New York is that the city's anti-development activists know an opening when they see one. They want the World Trade Center site -- and even some surrounding areas - -- transformed into an enormous park. These political advocates have had plenty of practice at turning proposed development projects in New York into a nightmare of delay and litigation, and the World Trade Center site is now getting the same treatment. Worse, they are cynically using some bereaved family members to advance their own anti-development agenda in the name of ""honoring"" the dead. One family group even called a press conference to reject as disrespectful a proposed train line under the site. We are not experts in designing war memorials, but we're confident that a gigantic park in the heart of the world's financial center isn't the appropriate choice for those who died a year ago. The great cities of Europe and Japan, devastated in World War II, have all rebuilt, and with memorials that are integrated into modern urban life. Perhaps the most powerful is found in Rotterdam, the Dutch port city reduced to rubble by German bombing, where survivors erected a statue of a man with a hole where his heart used to be. In this country, the practice has been for the names of war dead to be inscribed on the walls of institutions with which they were affiliated. If you walk into Nassau Hall at Princeton University, you'll find the names of 644 alumni who died in the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II, Korea and Southeast Asia. No one thinks it disrespectful to the dead that the life of the university goes on around the walls containing their names. In New York now, it would help if political leaders looked beyond the emotional tug of the victims and their families to the city's future. Rudolph Giuliani, now that he's out office, wants the entire 16 acres devoted to the memorial. Governor Pataki has called for no structures on the ""footprints,"" which, being in the center of the site, would severely curtail options. Mayor Michael Bloomberg initially raised his voice in favor of commercial development but was bloodied by the press and has since ducked for cover. Maybe things will be different after this anniversary is past. Maybe those responsible for the World Trade Center site will start thinking more about the next 50 or 100 years than the past 12 months. The best way to honor the dead is by reviving normal life and commerce. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.5 iQA/AwUBPX9zD8PxH8jf3ohaEQI2aACgv7mtb5VKTpRj5MJQt1OyzyifzusAn273 fgNkOntna6+SmLO8TB4XYbC2 =09az -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. A. 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Unlike everyone else, they decided to search my suitcase. The security lady asked for permission and then took everything out: clothing, umbrellas, a jacket, and a box of crackers. She searched all the pockets: nothing. Apparently the jacket was suspicious; She sent it through again. Nothing. The lady in the next lane waved a 10-inch knife and asked the lady in my lane if it could go on. I can only assume she answered yes. She put everything back in and sent it through again. Still suspicious. They took everything out. It looked like this was going to take a while, so I used the opportunity to put the tickets I was holding back in my bag. When I looked back up, the security woman was brandishing a scissors and saying ""This can't go on board."" ""I don't remember packing that,"" I said. I let her confiscate it. I called my Mom. She doesn't remember packing it either. Is there some sort of terrorist plot to plant scissors in innocent-looking people's suitcases? I can't see why this would be useful. How would they know what plane I'm on? Once I'm on the plane how would they get the scissors? They could threaten me, but if they have a threatening implement already, then why do they need the scissors? Perhaps it's some sort of Matroishca-doll system. They use their fists to get the infant to give them the squeaky mouse, they use the squeaky mouse to scare the toddler into giving them a copy of _A New Kind of Science_, they use ANKS to bludgeon a 5th Grader into giving them a wedge block, and they use the wedge to get me to give them the scissors. Those are some pretty clever terrorists. *Update:* False alarm. My Mom called. Apparently it was the scissors she was using to cut loose threads from my tie last night. It must have fallen in. The nation can go back to Yellow Level Terrorist Alert. === Waiting for Wireless === Now I am at O'Hare Airport, sitting outside the Admiral's Club while businessmen walk in and out. I am looking for a wireless signal, the signal I used last time I was here, but not finding it. Of course, last time I was here, I had an Admiral's Club card. This time I have a Mileage Plus Card, but despite the airline ologopoly--or perhaps because of it (have to keep up appearances, you know)--I doubt they will accept it. === Irony === According to the announcement I just heard, Mr. Valenti is going to miss his flight. I think of what I'd say if I ran into him. ""Jack!"" I'd exclaim, as if we were old pals. ""Going to the Eldred case?"" Of course he was. ""Going to be a good one."" ""Hey, remember when you had that debate with Lessig?"" I'd ask. ""You said you were starting a new task force to make movies legitimately available on the Internet. What ever happened to that?"" I imagine him mumbling and looking down at his watch. His plane is going to leave soon; he has to run. Another announcement: Mr. Michael McKenna needs to call his office. Good thing these airline announcements keep me up to date. === Automatic Flush Toilets === Now I am short and the sensing system was mounted up tall in both instances. In the first, at my old high school (where you think some people might be a little short...), the flush went off once accidentally. OK, I thought, I can handle one mistake. Then it went off again. Here at the airport, it misfired three times. This is annoying and inexcusable. Have they not heard of user testing? Do they expect only tall people to use these bathrooms? This problem must be remedied immediately. I recommend releasing a Service Pack on the manufacturer's web site. === Arrival === I've arrived in D.C.--once again, I'm sitting a block away from my hotel on the sidewalk borrowing someone's connection. Trip was very smooth, had lunch with Lisa and went to the Spy Museum (pretty cool, but could have been better). Now for the meetings and parties. Sorry for not responding to your email. I'm rather busy. ;-)",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Fri Aug 16 11:05:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B744E43C4D for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 05:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:58:35 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7FLno719433 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:49:50 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7FLbRJ31340; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:37:27 +0200 Received: from python (80-24-132-206.uc.nombres.ttd.es [80.24.132.206]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7FLaYJ16859 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:36:34 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: making rpms from already-compiled source trees Message-Id: <20020815230424.25d8a83e.matthias@egwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20020815164938.59299be9.ralf@camperquake.de> References: <20020815050336.GB2408@marvin.home.priv> <20020814221418.012b296f.hosting@j2solutions.net> <20020815055904.GA2681@marvin.home.priv> <20020815064512.2c7d5f3e.hosting@j2solutions.net> <1029421888.1847.1033.camel@turner.gestalt.entity.net> <1029422204.14538.2.camel@trial> <20020815164938.59299be9.ralf@camperquake.de> Organization: Electronic Group Interactive X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) Reply-BY: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 19:02:00 +1000 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux power! X-Message-Flag: Try using a real operating system : GNU/Linux power! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:04:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:04:24 +0200 Once upon a time, Ralf wrote : > Skipping all RPM build parts except for the actual packing is not > possible Actually it is (sort of). To answer partly the original question, this might have been useful once the %files error was corrected : rpmbuild -bi --short-circuit This will skip all the way to the %install and start from there. Of course, you need to have already done everything else before, and this will _not_ produce any rpm files, but will at least tell you if everything is now able to finish successfully. Sure, it's not perfect since if the %files error was actually because entries were missing you'll notice it only once the package is really installed. But for multiple typos in the %files section (like when you're writing a spec file after 2AM ;-)) it can come in handy :-) It's also very useful if you need to override some Makefile variables during install, when the simple cases like ""%makeinstall"" or ""make install DESTDIR=%{buildroot}"" don't work. It keeps you from redoing all the unpacking and building processes. Matthias -- Matthias Saou World Trade Center ------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta System and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain Electronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23 _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Sep 26 16:34:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664D16F18 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:34:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:34:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QFSTg24435 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:28:29 +0100 Message-Id: <200209261528.g8QFSTg24435@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: joelonsoftware Subject: We're trying to decide if FogBUGZ 3.0 should support custom fields. Histor Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:28:28 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/news/20020912.html Date: Not supplied We're trying to decide if FogBUGZ[1] 3.0 should support custom fields. Historically, I am opposed to custom fields in principle, because they get abused. People add so many fields to their bug databases to capture everything they think might be important that entering a bug is like applying to Harvard. End result: people don't enter bugs, which is much, much worse than not capturing all that information. You can always ""page fault"" to get the information if the original report forgot it. Rather than having a field in every bug where you enter the version numbers of every DLL on your machine (this is an actual customer request), information which is likely to be relevant only for a tiny percentage of bugs, why not just have the programmer-assignee look at the bug first, and if they think it might be dll-version-related, only _then_ bounce the bug back to the originator asking for the DLL info? Similarly, it's always tempting to add a field in which you ask for the OS version in which the bug occurred. This sounds logical, but trust me: adding fields like this is guaranteed to do one thing and one thing only: reduce the number of bug reports that get into the system in the first place. Only a small percentage of bugs are really OS dependant and you can always include that info in the text description of the bug if it happens to be relevant. (But then how do you search for, say, all bugs which only happen on Windows 98SE? Aha! You can't. Ever. Even with the custom field. Because not every bug has been regressed on every version of every operating system, so this search doesn't make sense in the first place. The info wasn't captured. Do a full text search for 98SE and you'll find some of them. Life is imperfect.) Life would be more perfect if every bug report included megabytes of information -- a complete dump of every byte on the hard drive and in RAM on the computer in question and while you're at it, a photograph of the tester's workspace. But the goal of a bug tracking database is to _keep track of bugs_, which, all else being equal, takes priority over making it easy to find them. I have heard countless stories of development teams where the bug tracking package was so high-ceremony that people were afraid to enter bugs in the system, because they didn't know what all those fields were. The _real_ bug-""tracking"" happened in email, post-its, and hallway conversations. Great. A pretty common question we get on the customer service line is, ""does FogBUGZ support custom fields?"" Rather than giving our usual answer (""no. on purpose."") over the last few weeks I've been saying, ""can you please tell me what fields you would need? We're trying to decide whether to implement that feature in 3.0 and we want to know why people need it."" The interesting thing is, almost all of the fields people ask for _are already in FogBUGZ,_ and the other ones, in my educated opinion, shouldn't be fields. And in fact, our existing customers are certainly happy without custom fields. One of our biggest site licenses was sold to a semiconductor company, and I myself wanted to add a custom field for them to keep track of versions of the circuit design, but I didn't, and they never needed it (even though they had been keeping track of it with the old bug tracking package which had custom fields), and they are happy and keep buying more site licenses. But the dilemma for us is that many customers are evaluating bug tracking software and they consider the lack of custom fields to be a major weakness in our product. ""Gosh, even Filemaker has custom fields."" Righto. It's true. And who am I to tell my customers they are wrong? One person who I was talking to yesterday would have used a custom field for something that we already have a built-in field for. This would have made their database confusing and inconsistent and would have definitely caused more problems than it solved. But it's still rude of me to tell customers that we don't have that feature _for their own good_, even though it usually is, and we're losing some sales because of it. Sigh. I guess we could have a custom fields feature but hide it and make it so hard to use that people don't use it. 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My story remains the same, take >>>it or leave it. I've said the same words to white supremacists as to >>>suburban leftist punks as to homeys as to French Irish, etc. etc.: >>> >>>I don't have to agree with anything you say. I *am* obligated to >>>defend to the death your right to say it. I don't give a rat's ass >>>where you say it, even in France. I don't care where the political >>>pendulum has swung currently. >>> >>>Chuck >>> >>> >>I had to laugh at Rumsfield yesterday - when he was heckled by >>protestors, he said something like ""They couldn't do that in Iraq."" >>Meanwhile, from what I could tell, the protestors were being arrested. >> >>Owen >> >> > >Trying to shoutdown a speaker or being loud and rowdy while someone else is >trying to speak (in the vernacular, 'getting in their face') is rude and >disrespectful. And persistently getting in someones face is assault, a >criminal offense. If these people have something to say, they can say it >with signs or get their own venue. And here is something else to chew on... >these protesters are NOT interested in changing anyones mind about what >Rumsfield is saying. How likely are you to change someone's mind by being >rude and disrespectful to them? Is this how to win friends and influence >people? Either these folks are social misfits who have no understanding of >human interactions (else they would try more constructive means to get their >message across) or they are just out to get their rocks off regardless of >how it affects other people, and that is immoral at best and downright evil >at worst. > >Bill > > Polite and respectful protest is acceptable then. No dumping tea in the harbour or anything like that. I think the primary purpose of loud and rowdy protests is to get on television, and that the tactics can be justified as a reaction to a systematic removal of alternative viewpoints from that medium. 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From: Julian Missig To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net In-Reply-To: <20020724.FRs.59646600@www.dudex.net> References: <20020724.FRs.59646600@www.dudex.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 (1.0.5-2.4) Message-Id: <1027537563.18947.12.camel@fuggles> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: 24 Jul 2002 15:05:57 -0400 Date: 24 Jul 2002 15:05:57 -0400 On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 03:50, Angles Puglisi wrote: > Lance (lance_tt@bellsouth.net) wrote*: > > > >well, from the looks of things, Evolution mail client isn't supported > >just yet, so I reckon I'll wait a bit. 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Subscribe now at http://www.idg.net/subscribe 7132",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 24 15:52:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CEB16F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:52:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:52:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8OCl1C03831 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:47:01 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC3B29425F; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C818529409A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ThosStew@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id 1.138.14d4d29a (30960); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:46:08 -0400 (EDT) From: ThosStew@aol.com Message-Id: <138.14d4d29a.2ac1b890@aol.com> Subject: Re: SF Weekly's Ultimate SF Date lineup :-) To: khare@alumni.caltech.edu, Fork@xent.com Cc: arvind@bea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:46:08 EDT In a message dated 9/23/2002 6:30:31 PM, khare@alumni.caltech.edu writes: > why you're writing with a double of scotch :-) because, obviously, after the inevitable second double, you won't remember anything you say unless you write it down :-) Tom",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 24 15:52:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F6916F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:52:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:52:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8OCDxC02791 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:14:00 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AD1294237; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from homer.perfectpresence.com (unknown [209.123.207.194]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9B229409A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-157-233-109.jax.bellsouth.net ([66.157.233.109] helo=regina) by homer.perfectpresence.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17toaj-0003A5-00; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:15:01 -0400 From: ""Geege Schuman"" To: , ""FoRK"" Subject: RE: liberal defnitions Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001b01c2637e$643836f0$0200a8c0@JMHALL> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Antiabuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse: Primary Hostname - homer.perfectpresence.com X-Antiabuse: Original Domain - xent.com X-Antiabuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-Antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - barrera.org Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:11:52 -0400 per john hall: ""The opinion that EITHER we are spending too much OR we have too much regulation is pretty much anathema to liberal politics."" no it's not. geege",0 "From mort239o@xum2.xumx.com Mon Jun 24 17:08:50 2002 Return-Path: mort239o@xum2.xumx.com Delivery-Date: Fri May 31 06:02:33 2002 Received: from mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com ([213.105.180.140]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4V52WO17821 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 06:02:32 +0100 Received: from xum2.xumx.com ([208.6.64.32]) by mandark.labs.netnoteinc.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g4V52T711214 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 06:02:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:06:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200205310206.g4V25xx16853@xum2.xumx.com> From: mort239o@xum2.xumx.com To: bazzbgulvm@xum2.xumx.com Reply-To: mort239o@xum2.xumx.com Subject: ADV: FREE Mortgage Rate Quote - Save THOUSANDS! kplxl X-Keywords: Save thousands by refinancing now. 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It doesn't matter if those two intend what they are doing, they are engaged in a 'selected sort'. It has been brought up that a boss no longer marries his secretary. Now the female law partner selects another high earning mate (at least associate law). So instead of two couples making $140K a piece (100K + 40K) you have one pair with $200 and one pair with $80 and this has some interesting social effects. And one of those effects is the difference in their children (on average). > -----Original Message----- > From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of Karl > Anderson > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:15 PM > To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org > Subject: Re: [Baseline] Raising chickens the high-tech way > > Elias Sinderson writes: > > > Sorry, Karl, your confusing things. > > No, it's just a silly discussion, but that's what picky semantic > discussions turn into :) > > > Thos is saying that selective > > breeding should be counted as genetic engineering, whereas you are > > extending his definition to include the attration that your parents > felt... > > Yes, I'm saying that if he extends ""genetic engineering"" to include > selecting animals to breed, he must extend it to include selecting > people to breed with. > > > Unless your parents were selectively bred like livestock to produce you, > > I don't think you can make that case... :-) > > I'm saying that my parents selected each other, and that they did so > because (among other reasons) each wanted the other's genes to be > mixed with their own in the offspring that they were planning. > > What does it matter that they were selecting to produce their own > offspring, rather than the offspring of two unrelated animals? > > -- > Karl Anderson kra@monkey.org http://www.monkey.org/~kra/ > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Jul 22 19:22:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE319440C8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:22:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFHo902473 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:17:50 +0100 Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31741 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:16:28 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g6MCD1C26082; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:13:02 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g6MCBrC15168 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:11:54 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: My Repository... Message-Id: <20020722140722.0cde1e6d.matthias@egwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20020722063623.260bb332.kilroy@kamakiriad.com> References: <200207220742.g6M7gIe29136@localhost.localdomain> <20020722061619.326b0142.kilroy@kamakiriad.com> <20020722063623.260bb332.kilroy@kamakiriad.com> Organization: Electronic Group Interactive X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) Reply-BY: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 19:02:00 +1000 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux power! X-Message-Flag: Try using a real operating system : GNU/Linux power! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:07:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:07:22 +0200 Once upon a time, Brian wrote : > Also- I noticed this repo has about an 8K bandwidth. Is there a way > I can put this behind the others, so I don't hammer it for things > that are at other repos? I'm respectful about bandwidth, having > lived on dialup for so long. Now I'm on fiber optic and it's a whole > other world... Sure, just use ""os"" and ""updates"" from apt.freshrpms.net for instance then add the lines for that repository with only the module you want/need (here it's ""testing73"" I guess). Matthias -- Matthias Saou World Trade Center ------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta System and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain Electronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23 _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From sentto-2242572-56023-1034083490-zzzz=spamassassin.taint.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Oct 8 14:40:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD3F16F21 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:39:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:39:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.88]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g98DYTK17380 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:34:30 +0100 X-Egroups-Return: sentto-2242572-56023-1034083490-zzzz=spamassassin.taint.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2002 13:24:50 -0000 X-Sender: tom@swirly.com X-Apparently-To: zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 8 Oct 2002 13:24:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 78721 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 13:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2002 13:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crank.slack.net) (166.84.151.181) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2002 13:24:48 -0000 Received: from [10.0.0.153] (pool-162-84-145-37.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.84.145.37]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2F63EB37; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:29:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: secret@ax.to Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: To: fort@yahoogroups.com, zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com From: Tom Ritchford MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com; contact forteana-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list zzzzteana@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:24:39 -0400 Subject: [zzzzteana] Pravda reports cities on the moon! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/",0 "Return-Path: anthony@interlink.com.au Delivery-Date: Sat Sep 7 04:44:50 2002 From: anthony@interlink.com.au (Anthony Baxter) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 13:44:50 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] understanding high false negative rate In-Reply-To: <200209062026.g86KQqJ03393@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> Message-ID: <200209070344.g873io020676@localhost.localdomain> > Looks like your ham corpus by and large has To: jeremy@alum.mit.edu in > a header while your spam corpus by and large doesn't. But this one > does. Interestingly, for me, one of the highest value spam indicators was the name of the mail host that the spam was delivered to, in the To: line. So mail to info@gin.elax2.ekorp.com was pretty much a dead cert for the filters. -- Anthony Baxter It's never too late to have a happy childhood.",0 "From pudge@perl.org Mon Sep 2 12:32:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEBC44155 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:32:36 +0100 (IST) Received: from cpu59.osdn.com (slashdot.org [64.28.67.73] (may be forged)) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7V20SZ19024 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 03:00:29 +0100 Received: from [10.2.181.14] (helo=perl.org) by cpu59.osdn.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17kxXD-0006Oi-01 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:58:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 02:00:28 +0000 From: pudge@perl.org Subject: [use Perl] Stories for 2002-08-31 To: yyyy-use-perl@spamassassin.taint.org Precedence: list X-Bulkmail: 2.051 Message-Id: use Perl Daily Newsletter In this issue: * Two OSCON Lightning Talks Online +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Two OSCON Lightning Talks Online | | posted by gnat on Friday August 30, @18:37 (news) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/30/2238234 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ [0]gnat writes ""The first two OSCON 2002 lightning talks are available from [1]the perl.org website. They are Dan Brian on ""What Sucks and What Rocks"" (in [2]QuickTime and [3]mp3), and Brian Ingerson on ""Your Own Personal Hashbang"" (in [4]QuickTime and [5]mp3). Enjoy!"" This story continues at: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/30/2238234 Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/08/30/2238234 Links: 0. mailto:gnat@frii.com 1. http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/ 2. http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/movies/lt-1/ 3. http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/audio/lt-1/ 4. http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/movies/lt-2/ 5. http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/audio/lt-2/ Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved. ====================================================================== You have received this message because you subscribed to it on use Perl. To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 23 18:32:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245616F03 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:32:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:32:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8NFvDC24423 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:57:13 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792D12940DE; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D48C2940DD for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17tVVj-0001Cs-00; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:52:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: To: Digital Bearer Settlement List , fork@spamassassin.taint.org From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: Rebuild at Ground Zero Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:18:55 -0400 http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB10327475102363433,00.html The Wall Street Journal September 23, 2002 COMMENTARY Rebuild at Ground Zero By LARRY SILVERSTEIN Earlier this month, we New Yorkers observed the solemn anniversary of the horrific events that befell our city on Sept. 11, 2001. All of those who perished must never be forgotten. The footprints of the fallen Twin Towers and a portion of the 16-acre site must be dedicated to a memorial and civic amenities that recall the sacrifices that were made there and the anguish that those senseless acts of terror created for the victims' families and, indeed, for all of us. But for the good of the city and the region, the 10-million-plus square feet of commercial and retail space that was destroyed with the Twin Towers must be replaced on the site. About 50,000 people worked in the World Trade Center. Those jobs are lost, along with those of another 50,000 people who worked in the vicinity. Together, those jobs in lower Manhattan, for which the Trade Center was the economic stimulus, produced annual gross wages of about $47 billion, or 15% of the annual gross wages earned in the entire state. Some of the firms have relocated elsewhere in the city and region, but many have not. New York City is facing a budget deficit. Without additional jobs, the deficit may become permanent. This is one reason for the importance of rebuilding. If we do not replace the lost space, lower Manhattan never will regain the vibrancy it had as the world's financial center. Love them or hate them, and there were lots of New Yorkers on both sides of the issue, the Towers made a powerful statement to the world that said, ""This is New York, a symbol of our free economy and of our way of life."" That is why they were destroyed. This is a second reason why the towers must be replaced, and with buildings that make a potent architectural statement. In recent weeks, redevelopment proposals have been circulated from many sources. Most of these focus not on the Trade Center site, however, but on all of lower Manhattan. Further, many believe that the 10 million square feet either could be located elsewhere, scattered in several sites, or simply never rebuilt. These proposals miss the point. What was destroyed, and what must be recovered, was the Trade Center, not all of lower Manhattan. Except over the towers' footprints, where there must be no commercial development, the office and retail space lost has to be rebuilt on or close to where it was. Access to mass transit makes the site ideal for office space of this size. That was a major reason why the Twin Towers were leased to 97% occupancy before 9/11. None of the other sites proposed for office development has remotely equal transportation access. With the reconstruction of the subway and PATH stations, plus an additional $4.5 billion in transit improvements planned, such as the new Fulton Transit Center and the direct ""Train-to-the-Plane"" Long Island Rail Road connection, the site becomes even more the logical locus of office development. And New York will need the space. Before 9/11, the Group of 35, a task force of civic leaders led by Sen. Charles Schumer and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, concluded that the city would need an additional 60 million square feet of new office space by 2020 to accommodate the anticipated addition of 300,000 new jobs. The loss of the Twin Towers only heightens the need. As for those who say that 10 million square feet of office space downtown cannot be absorbed by the real estate market, I would simply point out that history shows them wrong. New York now has about 400 million square feet of office space. All new construction underway already is substantially leased up. New York had 48 million square feet of vacant office space at the beginning of the recession in 1990. By 1998, this space had been absorbed, at an annual rate of about 6 million square feet. We are seeking to rebuild 10 million square feet on the Trade Center site over a period of about 10 years, with the first buildings not coming on line until 2008 and the project reaching completion in 2012. This is an annual absorption rate of about a million feet, much lower than the 1990s' rate. Those who argue that New York cannot reabsorb office space that it previously had are saying that the city has had its day and is entering an extended period of stagnation and decline. I will not accept this view, nor will most New Yorkers. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a recent interview with the New York Times that the city ""has to do two things: memorialize, but also build for the future."" I believe that the Twin Towers site can gracefully accommodate -- and that downtown requires -- office and retail space of architectural significance, a dignified memorial that both witnesses and recalls what happened, and cultural amenities that would benefit workers as well as residents of the area. The challenge to accomplish this is enormous. But our city is up to the task. Mr. Silverstein is president of Silverstein Properties, a real estate firm whose affiliates hold 99-year leases on the World Trade Center site. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ""... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience."" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Aug 7 14:22:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E69440CD for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:22:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g77DLnk31134 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:21:50 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17cQfT-00018O-00; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 06:16:03 -0700 Received: from med-core07.med.wayne.edu ([146.9.19.23]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17cQfI-0005zp-00 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 06:15:52 -0700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Subject: RE: [Razor-users] What's wrong with the Razor servers now? Message-Id: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Tnef-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Razor-users] What's wrong with the Razor servers now? Thread-Index: AcI95uZYty6JbCTTTZ2zyQUcXNqGpgAK8pNwAABpySA= From: ""Rose, Bobby"" To: Cc: ""ML-razor-users"" Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:15:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:15:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dogma.slashnull.org id g77DLnk31134 The problem is clearly because the info isn't syncing between the servers. If I run the check against honor which is where it was reported then the check is positive. If I run the check against apt or fire, it's negative. -----Original Message----- From: Rose, Bobby Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:05 AM To: mail@vipul.net Cc: ML-razor-users Subject: RE: [Razor-users] What's wrong with the Razor servers now? It's still doing it. I reported a message as spam 10 minutes ago and the check keeps coming back false. What's funny is that message that I'm testing with it the sample-spam.txt message from SpamAssassin and I know it's been reported before. -----Original Message----- From: Vipul Ved Prakash [mailto:mail@vipul.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:45 AM To: Rose, Bobby Cc: ML-razor-users Subject: Re: [Razor-users] What's wrong with the Razor servers now? Hi, We were rolling out changes to TeS and catalogue servers over the last two days. Any glitches you might have experienced would have been due to the upgrades. The upgrades are now complete, and things are back to normal. Several new features in TeS will provide better accuracy, specially with regards to false-positives. cheers, vipul. On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 06:54:04PM -0400, Rose, Bobby wrote: > I'm still seeing this. It reports to honor.cloudmark.com but checks > against apt.cloudmark.com. What is the sync delay between these > boxes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rose, Bobby > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 2:05 PM > To: ML-razor-users > Subject: [Razor-users] What's wrong with the Razor servers now? > > > I noticed a low count of razor'd spam messages. So after digging, if I > razor-report a message the diags say that it was accepted but if I > turn around and run a check on the exact same message that was > reported, then it doesn't find the sig and as such isn't spam. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Razor-users mailing list > Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Razor-users mailing list > Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users -- Vipul Ved Prakash | ""The future is here, it's just not Software Design Artist | widely distributed."" http://vipul.net/ | -- William Gibson ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Jul 25 18:56:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3B1440E6 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:56:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PHug420971 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:56:43 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BC72940DE; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from tripper.magisoftware.com (tripper.magisoftware.com [208.179.190.4]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C432940B5 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from endeavors.com ([208.179.190.254]) by tripper.magisoftware.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id GZTGFK00.96Y for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:54:56 -0700 Message-Id: <3D403BD7.8080602@endeavors.com> From: ""Gregory Alan Bolcer"" Organization: Endeavors Technology, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FoRK Subject: Covalent.NET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:56:39 -0700 [1] Covalent works with Microsoft to provide ASP.NET capabilities for Apache 2.0. ASP.NET actually has some really elegant tools for doing load testing and analysis. Perhaps Microsoft's desire to embrace, extend, and extinguish comes from a scathing Gartner report recommending not to deploy IIS for enterprise applications at all. Now users get the best of both worlds: all the development tools of ASP.Net and the security and reliability of Apache. Greg -- Gregory Alan Bolcer, CTO | work: +1.949.833.2800 | gbolcer at endeavors.com Endeavors Technology, Inc. | cell: +1.714.928.5476 | http://endeavors.com [1]http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/07/25/020725hnapachenet.xml > With help from Microsoft in Redmond, Wash., Covalent said it was able to develop a > module for its Enterprise Ready Server that would allow ASP.Net applications to run on > Apache 2.0. However, organizations that use the freely available Web server won't be able > to run ASP.Net applications unless they purchase Covalent's software. Zemlin said that the > company doesn't plan to release an open-source version of its .Net module. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From KV4nWPbovS0LLVR@sky.seed.net.tw Sat Sep 7 22:05:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by zzzzason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E909E16FA5 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:57:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:57:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from john000 ([202.64.208.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g87010C28948 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 01:01:00 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 01:01:00 +0100 Received: from titan by ara.seed.net.tw with SMTP id Hj5t3pNT4kz68k; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 07:51:45 +0800 Message-Id: From: marketing@securepro.com.hk To: AGRICULTURE@dogma.slashnull.org, SPAIN.TXT@dogma.slashnull.org, SWITZERLAND.TXT@dogma.slashnull.org, 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(8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9A803K13841 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:00:03 +0100 Message-Id: <200210100800.g9A803K13841@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: diveintomark Subject: Wedding music Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:00:03 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/10/09.html#wedding_music Date: 2002-10-09T23:41:26-05:00 It's confirmed: Dora and I will be walking down the aisle to the sounds of the Triangle Tuba Quartet[1]. That is just too cool for words. [1] http://www.duke.edu/~ieisen/ttq.html",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Wed Oct 9 10:51:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680ED16F17 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:51:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:51:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g993a8K17381 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:36:08 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g993S1f10437; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 05:28:01 +0200 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.31]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g993R3f32233 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 05:27:03 +0200 Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9937LX06956 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:07:21 -0400 Received: from pobox.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (pobox.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.156]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g993R2f05090 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:27:02 -0400 Received: from ckk.rdu.spamassassin.taint.org (ckk.rdu.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.57.72]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g993R2a06030 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:27:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Zoot apt/openssh & new DVD playing doc From: Chris Kloiber To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net In-Reply-To: <20021008163613.0c1dcc72.matthias@rpmforge.net> References: <20021008163613.0c1dcc72.matthias@rpmforge.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Message-Id: <1034134030.26329.85.camel@ckk.rdu.spamassassin.taint.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: 08 Oct 2002 23:27:10 -0400 Date: 08 Oct 2002 23:27:10 -0400 On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 10:36, Matthias Saou wrote: > Hi there, > > Two new things today : > > 1) I've had to install a Red Hat Linux 6.2 server because of an old > proprietary IVR software that doesn't work on newer releases :-( So I've > recompiled both the latest apt and openssh packages for it, and they are > now available with a complete ""os, updates & freshrpms"" apt repository at > apt.freshrpms.net, for those who might be interested. Gack. Did you try 7.3 with the compat-glibc first? Or does it require an antique kernel? -- Chris Kloiber _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Sep 2 13:13:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0CD47C7C for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:43:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g82Am8Z29220 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:48:08 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31421; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:47:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from relay05.indigo.ie (relay05.indigo.ie [194.125.133.229]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA31379 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:46:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 97613 messnum 1200606 invoked from network[194.125.130.10/unknown]); 2 Sep 2002 10:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO win2000) (194.125.130.10) by relay05.indigo.ie (qp 97613) with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 10:46:25 -0000 Reply-To: From: ""Justin MacCarthy"" To: ""Dermot Daly"" Cc: ""Ilug@Linux.Ie"" Subject: RE: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:46:57 +0100 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Hi Dermot, if have a look at one of the dists. like www.smoothwall.org, it will save you lots of time and effort, and should do eveything you want. Justin > -----Original Message----- > From: ilug-admin@linux.ie [mailto:ilug-admin@linux.ie]On Behalf Of > Dermot Daly > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:46 AM > To: ilug@linux.ie > Subject: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system > > > Hi All, > I'm trying to set up the following: > > 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an > ethernet card for LAN connectivity > 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for > DNS/DHCP etc. > > Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0. > > I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem > problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing > is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the > default route or something). > > Is there standard ""out of the box"" Linux tools that will carry out > portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable > addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0 > interface). > > Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need > to follow ? > Thanks, > Dermot. > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription > information. > List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie > > > -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 6 11:53:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A11441E7 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:48:21 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g74BENv26148 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:14:23 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17135; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:12:12 +0100 Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17082 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:12:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219] claimed to be webnote.net Received: (from lbedford@localhost) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11216; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:12:01 +0100 Message-Id: <20020804121201.A11194@mail.webnote.net> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:12:01 +0100 From: lbedford@lbedford.org To: deedsmis@aculink.net, ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] One Command -- Four Types References: <200208041036.g74AaBr31977@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <200208041036.g74AaBr31977@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net>; from SoloCDM on Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 04:36:11AM -0600 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 04:36:11AM -0600, SoloCDM wrote: > I tried several ways to force the command ln to create a link with > an option attached . . . it wouldn't work. > > How are there four (/bin/dnsdomainname /bin/domainname > /bin/nisdomainname /bin/ypdomainname) different types of hostname > links with their own separate options? > There's a switch statement in the program on argv[0]. It's not including any options in the link. L. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From iiu-admin@taint.org Wed Jul 24 14:04:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F05440CD for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OD41414189 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:01 +0100 Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OD31414147 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:03:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:03:01 +0100 Message-Id: <20020724130301.14145.68146.Mailman@dogma.slashnull.org> Subject: IIU post from friendsworld@lovefinder.com requires approval From: iiu-admin@taint.org To: iiu-admin@taint.org X-Ack: no X-Beenthere: iiu@iiu.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Sender: iiu-owner@taint.org Errors-To: iiu-owner@taint.org X-Beenthere: iiu@iiu.taint.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Irish Internet Users List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: IIU@iiu.taint.org From: friendsworld@lovefinder.com Subject: humour Friendship to share ! Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list At your convenience, visit: http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/admindb/iiu to approve or deny the request.",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Sep 16 10:44:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by zzzzason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F0B16F03 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:44:16 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:44:16 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8G7YiC17031 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:34:44 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25155; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:33:46 +0100 Received: from coolre42001.com (node1f6f6.a2000.nl [24.132.246.246]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA25119 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:33:36 +0100 Message-Id: <200209160733.IAA25119@lugh.tuatha.org> X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host node1f6f6.a2000.nl [24.132.246.246] claimed to be coolre42001.com From: ""ilug"" Reply-To: ""ilug"" To: ilug@linux.ie Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:33:38 +0200 X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6900 DM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugh.tuatha.org id IAA25119 Subject: [ILUG] MICHAEL ! ilug Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ilug , From;Mr.Michael Kamah and Family, Johannesburg,South Africa. My Dear , Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my family urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the best way to contact you because of the nature of my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact information from your country's information directory during my desperate search for someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating and managing some family fortunes. My name is Mr.Michael Kamah, the second son of Mr.Smith Kamah, of Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crises in our country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained and ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our president,Mr.Robert G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our country,my father and my elder brother were brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in their struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our house.My father,during his life on earth was a prominent business man who trades on diamond and gold from some foreign countries .He publicly opposes the crude policies and crime against humanity on the white farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced media law restrictions to protect their wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers after winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and ! confiscate all accounts and assets of our black indigenes[that included my fathers assets and accounts] who oppose his policies and render support to these white farmers,along with the assets of these white farmers themselves,that are being presently confiscated.I therefore decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source of livelyhood. During my fathers life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Eight Million and Six Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$8.600.000.00],in a trunk box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a cash and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business customers, awaiting instructions to be moved to its destination,which he never completed before he met his untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down,killing and confiscation of his assets as one of those who render support to the white farmers in our country,I therefore humbly wish to inform you of my intentions to use your name and adress in making sure that this fund is lifted out of Africa finally,to the Europe office of the finance company and also seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me clear and accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and blocked by the present Mugabe's! regime.My mother is presently with the valid document covering this deposit. Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; 1. I want you to be presented to the Finance and Security company as the person I contacted to assist my family for this purpose, with whose name and adress myself and my mother will forward to them their office in the Republic of Togo as the person that will clear this money when they lift it out to their europe office. 2. To finally assist me in accommodating and managing this money in any lucrative business in your country for at least three years. Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour and much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you keep every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future and yourself rendering this help.Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you read this very request. Best Regards, Mr.Michael Kamah and family. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Build it in! http://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Jul 31 21:06:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC836440CD for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:06:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VK17207441 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:01:07 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25479; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:58:37 +0100 Received: from linux.local ([195.218.108.229]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25450 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:58:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [195.218.108.229] claimed to be linux.local Received: from linux.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linux.local (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g6VJwhX12224 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:58:43 +0100 Message-Id: <200207311958.g6VJwhX12224@linux.local> To: Irish Linux Users Group Reply-To: Irish Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [ILUG] inputting chinese characters in Redhat 7.3 In-Reply-To: Message from Brian Foster of ""Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:57:50 BST."" <200207311757.g6VHvoX11572@linux.local> X-Mailer: [nmh-1.0.4] MH.6.8, SuSE Linux 7.3 X-Url: http://www.blf.utvinternet.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""utf-8"" Content-Id: <12221.1028145523.1@linux.local> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:58:43 +0100 From: Brian Foster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugh.tuatha.org id UAA25450 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie | Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:57:50 +0100 | From: Brian Foster | | | Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:11:49 +0800 | | From: Fergal Daly | | | | 7.3 seems to support Chinese input out of the box, it's got | | miniChinput and some other stuff no documentation. [ ... ] | | Can anyone tell me what I should do? | | I've no idea, but a relevant/useful source of info could | be the «linux-utf8» e-list: | | http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html | http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/ |[ ... ] | w.r.t. X11 applications [ one approach is to use ] | what's called an XIM (X Input Method). [ ... ] sorry for replying to my own post! a google for ""xim linux"" found a number of hits. try (I've haven't finished reading this myself, but it seems good): http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/ (CJK stands for Chinese Japanese Korean.) the above is probably best read with a browser that groks UTF-8. cheers! -blf- -- Innovative, very experienced, Unix and | Brian Foster Dublin, Ireland Chorus (embedded RTOS) kernel internals | e-mail: blf@utvinternet.ie expert looking for a new position ... | mobile: (+353 or 0)86 854 9268 For a résumé, contact me, or see my website http://www.blf.utvinternet.ie Stop E$$o (ExxonMobile): «Whatever you do, don't buy Esso --- they don't give a damn about global warming.» http://www.stopesso.com Supported by Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, and numerous others... -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 13 10:30:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC9E4413B for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 05:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:22:20 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7D9Aeb24723 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:10:40 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03680; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:09:38 +0100 Received: from lhidns.gov.ie ([193.1.228.222]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03649 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:09:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [193.1.228.222] claimed to be lhidns.gov.ie Received: from gw.educ.irlgov.ie (educ-gw.gov.ie [192.168.6.1] (may be forged)) by lhidns.gov.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13418 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:08:58 +0100 Received: (from fwtk@localhost) by gw.educ.irlgov.ie (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA14004 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:28:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from unknown(10.0.0.13) by gw.educ.irlgov.ie via smap (V2.0) id xma013992; Tue, 13 Aug 02 11:28:06 +0100 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: [ILUG] SUSE 8 disks? (thread changed slightly) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:08:38 +0100 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Message-Id: <9C498074D5419A44B05349F5BF2C26301CFA8F@sdubtalex01.education.gov.ie> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Tnef-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ILUG] SUSE 8 disks? (thread changed slightly) Thread-Index: AcJCqHcSy7R9PwDESLGG4g7dJO4XCQAAB64Q From: ""Ryan, Shane"" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugh.tuatha.org id KAA03649 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie hmm, I've never used gentoo so I'll have to take your word on that. Perhaps something similar to that Ximian RedHat dealy would be cool. Like a gui installer for slackware![1] ;] shane [1]I'm shure Patrick V. would love that.(not) -----Original Message----- From: John P. Looney [mailto:valen@tuatha.org] Sent: 13 August 2002 10:01 To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] SUSE 8 disks? (thread changed slightly) On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:55:49AM +0100, Ryan, Shane mentioned: > It *is* a good idea though. I've been > wondering about the same thing for a couple > of months now but always considered it too > complicated to carry out. (If that makes any > sense at all). It is to complex. Look at the mess that is gentoo. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Hi folks, Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, but I am trying to do on my linux desktop what I used to do with some other os software. I'm trying to use a combination of some bash scripts and some perl to generate reports from a couple of ascii files. Eventually these will run on a server and get the files by ftp, analyse them and mail me the results. As I'm no programmer (by any stretch of the imagination !) I'm getting a bit lost. I can deal with single files (eventually) using grep, egrep, awk, and a nice perl script called 'total' which i found while googling. Problem now is that the data I'm trying to report on is split between two isam files. File 1 contains Docket Number, Line Number, Item, quantity, price, duedate File 2 contains Docket Number, Customer, Shipping date, invoice number. To make some sense of the data, I need to relate the Docket number between the 2 files, so that I can generate a report by customer. My first reaction is to look at mysql, and import the ascii data into 2 tables so that I can use sql queries. Is this the way to go, or should I delve a bit deeper into perl ? Any advice welcome. Thanks, Declan -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 17 18:42:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831BA16F03 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:42:36 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:42:36 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8HHKeC20202 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:20:48 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8BE2940DE; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from hughes-fe01.direcway.com (hughes-fe01.direcway.com [66.82.20.91]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAC029409F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinnaker ([64.157.32.1]) by hughes-fe01.direcway.com (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license dcc4e84cb8fc01ca8f8654c982ec8526) with ESMTP id <20020917171953.BJNK977.hughes-fe01@spinnaker> for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:19:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Hanson's Sept 11 message in the National Review From: Chuck Murcko To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <96394F38-CA61-11D6-A53C-003065F93D3A@topsail.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:19:13 -0700 Probably because we have this pesky 1st Amendment thing here. Still, lots of us in the States have developed a disturbing tendency to shout down or (in recent years) shackle in legal BS opinions, thoughts, and individual behaviors we don't agree with. You can just ignore it if you wish. But I must feel obligated to defend to the death your right to do so. Chuck On Monday, September 16, 2002, at 06:54 AM, Robert Harley wrote: The usual crud. Why do morons ranting and beating their chests in the National Review (or similar rags) merit FoRKing?",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Jul 24 01:31:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83314440CD for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:31:18 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O0UL406687 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:30:21 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17XA0a-0006A5-00; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:28:04 -0700 Received: from pluto.trimble.co.nz ([210.86.12.194]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17X9zf-0004ct-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:27:08 -0700 Received: (qmail 9520 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2002 12:27:03 +1200 Received: from unknown (HELO thoth.trimble.co.nz) (155.63.248.21) by pluto.trimble.co.nz with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Jul 2002 12:27:03 +1200 Received: (qmail 16426 invoked by uid 403); 24 Jul 2002 12:27:03 +1200 Received: from jhaar@trimble.co.nz by thoth.trimble.co.nz by uid 400 with qmail-scanner-1.13 (trophie: 5.500-0829/325/46694. sophie: 2.10/3.59. spamassassin: 2.31. Clear:. Processed in 0.08928 secs); 24 Jul 2002 00:27:03 -0000 Received: from crom.trimble.co.nz (10.3.0.198) by thoth.trimble.co.nz with SMTP; 24 Jul 2002 12:27:02 +1200 Received: (qmail 17731 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2002 00:27:02 -0000 From: Jason Haar To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Microsoft developer newsletter tagged as spam Message-Id: <20020724002702.GC16347@trimble.co.nz> Mail-Followup-To: Jason Haar , spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net References: <0FCA00EE04CDD3119C910050041FBA703A6693@ilpostoffice.main.net56.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0FCA00EE04CDD3119C910050041FBA703A6693@ilpostoffice.main.net56.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Organization: Trimble Navigation New Zealand Ltd. Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:27:02 +1200 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:27:02 +1200 This MSDN mail thing reminds me of how I've documented this feature of SpamAssassin here so that our users understand it. I define ""Solicited Commercial Email"" vs ""Unsolicited Commercial Email"" - the latter being SPAM. As SpamAssassin basically looks for ""Commercial Email"", both get hit, and that's something they must understand. Our SA documentation further tells users to filter off their SCE before applying a SA rule - gets rid of 100% of the problem as the users know who is sending them SCE. -- Cheers Jason Haar Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd. Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417 PGP Fingerprint: 7A2E 0407 C9A6 CAF6 2B9F 8422 C063 5EBB FE1D 66D1 ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Sun Sep 22 14:11:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013C316F03 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:11:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:11:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8M1hpC16146 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 02:43:51 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847482940AE; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7116929409A for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAX (adsl-66-122-60-240.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [66.122.60.240]) by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8M1hGI7171706 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:43:25 -0400 From: ""Max Dunn"" To: Subject: RE: sed /s/United States/Roman Empire/g Message-Id: <000101c261d9$6ef54340$6401a8c0@MAX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:43:16 -0700 > As I've said before, American > Indian Reservations are quite > possibly the only place on the > planet where you can find trailer > park shantytowns where every > household is bringing in a > six-figure income. I wish I > could be exploited like that. Like what, like the rare exception case you've raised or like the ""on average"" case mentioned in the post you were replying to? Max",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 19 11:03:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0453D441A1 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:54:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7GMMC605701 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:22:13 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555CF2940B5; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from relay.pair.com (relay1.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A4A45294098 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 71540 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2002 22:20:54 -0000 Received: from adsl-66-124-225-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO golden) (66.124.225.138) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 22:20:54 -0000 X-Pair-Authenticated: 66.124.225.138 Message-Id: <00aa01c24573$2cbf10f0$640a000a@golden> From: ""Gordon Mohr"" To: References: <20020816204431.ADEF4C44E@argote.ch> Subject: Re: Elliptic Curve Point Counting, made easy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""Windows-1252"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:20:48 -0700 Robert Harley writes: > Here are some numbers with the new algorithm for counting points on > elliptic curves (over fields of characteristic 2). > > In 1998, Reynald Lercier set a record at 1663 bits in 330 days of CPU > on 266 MHz Alphas. In 1999, Frederik Vercauteren set a record at 1999 > bits in 65 days of CPU on 400 MHz PCs. > > I've been working on the problem since then. These were measured just > now on Rajit's 750 MHz Alpha: > > 1009 bits: > Lift: 4.8 s + 0.64 s precomputation. > Norm: 2.6 s + 0.31 s precomputation. > > 1663 bits: > Lift: 18.5 s + 2.1 s precomputation. > Norm: 7.0 s + 1.9 s precomputation. > > 1999 bits: > Lift: 29.4 s + 3.6 s precomputation. > Norm: 16.6 s + 3.4 s precomputation. > > 15013 bits: > Lift: 1 h 39 m + 13 m precomputation > Norm: 39 m + 1 h 41 m precomputation Not knowing one whit about elliptic curve math, can you provide some expert interpretation of these results? It looks like the old record for, say, 199 bits, has been blown out of the water by a factor of ~100,000. Does this mean that Eliptic Curve encryption is now easily breakable? Or faster than before with no loss in strength? Or stronger? 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We're actually investigating switching from Sparc/Solaris to Intel/Linux. I would much prefer to be using Linux at work so I'm pushing for this. It definately doesn't help when you're given a bog standard Dell box and linux won't work with the graphics card on it. At the moment at work, if we want a new workstation, we just buy whatever Sun's latest system is, we jumpstart it, and that's it, it's up and running. Basically the whole installation procedure is ""boot net - install"" This is exactly what you need when you are administering a large group of workstations. You don't have the time to check dells website every time you want to buy a machine, you'd spend your life on Dells website and messing around with drivers and compiling new versions of X. That's fine if you've got one machine at home, hey, I've done it myself, but when working with a large bunch of systems, it's impossible. On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 04:02:38AM -0500, Stephen_Reilly@dell.com wrote: > > bad thing. Just a bad thing for those that hope a distro will > > work out of > > the box. > > It's still quite easy to find out, pre-purchase, what components if > any are going to give you problems with a specific distribution/version. > With Dell just check the support.dell.com site, match the system, look for > downloadable drivers. From these if there aren't any linux drivers you can > usually find out the chipset of each device. Plug them into google with > ""linux"" and see what people have to say about them. Generally speaking when > you buy the system you'll be told the make/model of each device rather than > the chipset, so further investigation is necessary. > > The cavaet, of course, is always to know exactly what you're buying. > In most people's cases unfortunately it's not the person who bought the > systems that will be configuring them. > > steve > > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. > List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie -- --------------------------------------- Declan Houlihan deccy@csn.ul.ie http://deccy.csn.ul.ie/ --------------------------------------- -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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In-Reply-To: <20021001.558.00260600@www.dudex.net> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:44:15 +0200 (CEST) > Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*: > >As Red Hat does, I really don't recommend trying to upgrade between betas > >or from a beta to a final release either. Simply backup your /home, /etc > >(and /root and/or /usr/local/ if needed) then reinstall cleanly, it'll > >probably save a few hassles and you'll get the cleanest possible system ;-) > > I think this is probably the best way, because I think (maybe) with upgrading you > do not always automatically get the latest feature enabled in some config file > because RH would rather take it easy and not update that config file (you get a > rpmnew instead of rpmsaved file) so they get less calls to support that way. If you dislike Red Hat, why use it ? This was a really bad argument against using Red Hat that makes no sense at all. I for one am GLAD that they a) don't overwrite your config files on a whim (be GLAD they don't do some sort of autodetection and changing crap) b) tell you on rpm upgrade what config files you should look at because formats have changed. Red Hat is not ""taking it easy"" on this, it's putting control in the hands of you, the maintainer of the machine. Don't be lazy. > Anyway, I have tons of media files in /home/* probably 5 to 10 gigs at least, my > laptop's CDROM takes 700MB at a time (obviously) and compressing media files is > dumb because they are already compressed. Dumb question: how to backup huge data? > Network backup to another box? I do not have a box with a tape drive, but maybe box > with a large HD with much free space could take the backup (oops, I do not have a > space computer with a large HD with much free space). You don't need to backup /home if you are careful enough. You did put /home on a separate partition, no ? Just install rh80 and tell it to use the same partition as /home and tell it to NOT format it, but keep the data as is. If you didn't put /home on a separate partition, then you really do need to make backups. Use an nfs or smb mount from another machine to backup and rsync straight to the mount, or if that's not possible, rsync over ssh. 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Each tiffin carrier has, painted on its top, a number of symbols that identify where the carrier was picked up, the originating and destination stations and the address to which it is to be delivered. After the tiffin carriers are picked up, they are taken to the nearest railway station, where they are sorted according to the destination station. At the destination station they are unloaded by other dabba wallahs and re-sorted, this time according to street address and floor. The 80 kg crates of carriers, carried on dabba wallahs' heads, hand-wagons and cycles are delivered at 12.30 p.m., picked up at 1.30 p.m., and returned when they came. The system relies on multiple relays of dabba wallahs, and a single tiffin box may change hands up to three times during its journey from home to office. Link[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks, Tom!_) [1] http://in.news.yahoo.com/020920/43/1vfdw.html [2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/H96NaZc8PTyq",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Jul 30 05:27:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52A2440EF for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:27:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6U4Saq07392 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:28:37 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16464; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:25:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from escargot.esatclear.ie (escargot.esatclear.ie [194.145.128.30]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16431 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:25:38 +0100 Received: from esatclear.ie (p-airlock019.esatclear.ie [194.165.169.19]) by escargot.esatclear.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25320 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:25:37 +0100 Message-Id: <3D461484.7030003@esatclear.ie> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:22:28 +0100 From: Paul Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020725 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] Optimizing for Pentium Pt.2 References: <200207262228.XAA19581@lugh.tuatha.org> <20020727015716.A6561@ie.suberic.net> <200207271701.SAA23172@lugh.tuatha.org> <3D4359EE.9050405@esatclear.ie> <002a01c23664$b7326d40$f264a8c0@sabeo.ie> <3D44BE4F.8070603@esatclear.ie> <20020729100846.359298c3.lbedford@netnoteinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Liam Bedford wrote: > that is the CVS version, but it seems that more breakage is to come with the > kernel :( Limbo seems to be able to compile its own kernel with its own gcc 3.1. That said, I don't want to know what kind of patches Redhat are applying to that kernel. The .spec file alone is 128KBytes! One of the patches is 2.4.19-ac10. Redhat don't seem to have patched Limbo's gcc too heavily. Paul. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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    [COMPARISON OF INTERNET ADVERTISING METHODS]:
    =========================================================
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    =========================================================

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    ---- --- -- - -
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    -------- ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- - -
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    ----- ---- --- -- - -
    A EUROPEAN 2001 BENCHMARK STUDY
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    ---- --- -- - -
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    ---- --- -- - -
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    ---- --- -- - -
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    =========================================================
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    =========================================================

    ------ ----- ---- --- -- - -
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    ------ ----- ---- --- -- - -
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    ---- --- -- - -
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    ----- ---- --- -- - -
    [SOUND TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE?]

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    --- -- - -
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    ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- - -
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    ----- ---- --- -- - -
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Processed in 0.45655 secs); 22/08/2002 16:54:15 Received: from deepeddy.vircio.com (@[10.1.2.1]) (envelope-sender ) by austin-jump.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Aug 2002 21:54:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9069 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 21:54:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) (?qa8Nj+W90BKiXmUEK2N6dnYAHT1le0P7?@[127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Aug 2002 21:54:12 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Anders Eriksson Cc: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: CVS report In-Reply-To: <20020822211425.849EB3F27@milou.dyndns.org> References: <20020822211425.849EB3F27@milou.dyndns.org> X-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg X-Image-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/chris.gif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""==_Exmh_592622610P""; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1030053252.9051.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> From: Chris Garrigues X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.57 Reply-To: Chris Garrigues X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 16:54:11 -0500 --==_Exmh_592622610P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Anders Eriksson > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:14:20 +0200 > > > >>>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, ""Chris"" == Chris Garrigues wrote: > > Chris> --==_Exmh_267413022P Content-Type: text/plain; > Chris> charset=us-ascii > > +> From: Anders Eriksson Date: Thu, 22 Aug > +> 2002 20:23:17 +0200 > > +> Oooops! > > +> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to > +> change folde r (which fail) > > Chris> ~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently > Chris> I did so after you checked it out and before you sent this > Chris> mail...I hoped I was fast enough that you wouldn't see it. > > Chris> Try again! > > > Works like a charm. It's like the box was on drugs or something. > > However, while testing it a selected my favourite folder (l-k) and > marked ~400 messages unread. THAT took forever, or about as long as > Catch-up Unseen did before. Any suggestions? That's fixed now. I thought I'd caught all the occurrences of that particular coding stupidity. 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But for most people, changing their company's or ISP's server requires years of lobbying, while they have total and immediate control over their own MUA. That said, I agree that we should offer a good solution to postmasters, and I trust that your ideas are right on the mark! --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)",0 "From rssfeeds@spamassassin.taint.org Tue Oct 8 10:55:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922DA16F18 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:55:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:55:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9880QK06038 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:00:26 +0100 Message-Id: <200210080800.g9880QK06038@dogma.slashnull.org> To: zzzz@spamassassin.taint.org From: boingboing Subject: Curried radiation burns Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 08:00:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://boingboing.net/#85537496 Date: Not supplied Curcumin, the chemical that makes curry yellow, turns out to be a good compound for treating radiation burns resulting from cancer therapy. Link[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks, Cheryl!_) [1] http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N07347915 [2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/THKNJnrnHdDd",0 "From danny@spesh.com Mon Aug 26 15:16:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1268044166 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:15:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from prune.flirble.org (prune.flirble.org [195.40.6.30]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7NJmtZ05959 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:48:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 65940 invoked by uid 7789); 23 Aug 2002 19:23:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ntknow-help@lists.ntk.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes Delivered-To: mailing list ntknow@lists.ntk.net Delivered-To: moderator for ntknow@lists.ntk.net Received: (qmail 65889 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 19:21:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:21:21 -0700 From: ""Danny O'Brien"" To: NTK now Subject: NTK now, 2002-08-23 Message-Id: <20020823192121.GA15812@spesh.com> Reply-To: tips@spesh.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Excuse: innocent bystander in Winer vs Lessig mud wrestle _ _ _____ _ __ <*the* weekly high-tech sarcastic update for the uk> | \ | |_ _| |/ / _ __ __2002-08-23_ o join! mail an empty message to | \| | | | | ' / | '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / / o ntknow-subscribe@lists.ntk.net | |\ | | | | . \ | | | | (_) \ v v / o website (+ archive) lives at: |_| \_| |_| |_|\_\|_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/ o http://www.ntk.net/ ""Using a laptop computer in the shadow of Big Ben, we identified 26 parcels of confidential computer information."" - and inside each was a delicious chocolate treat www.sundaymirror.co.uk/homepage/news/page.cfm?objectid=12125585&method=sm_full >> HARD NEWS << here falls shoe two Well, it's getting late, and the government hasn't fallen, so we better roll the presses on the bad news. The CAMPAIGN FOR DIGITAL RIGHTS published its first in-depth analysis of the EUCD. For this exciting installment, CD-R has concentrated on what it does to people who have to circumvent copy protection to do their job. The short summary is: if they're not a teacher, a prison warder, disabled, or the cops, they can forget their jobs. If you're anyone else - like a musician, or a cryptographer - and the copy protection says you can't make a backup, you can't. And even if you *are* a teacher or other exceptional person, you'll have to ask the Secretary of State if you can crack the protected CD. In writing. Each time. http://uk.eurorights.org/issues/eucd/ukimpl/ - oh, don't worry, it gets worse http://www.stand.org.uk/weblog/archive/2002/08/21/000243.php - what you can do to stop all this But there's plenty more to ooze out of the law than that. One of the big questions about the EUCD is ""is it the European DMCA, or what?"". Well, the DMCA spurted bad juice in many different directions, but one way in which the two are similiar is over ""circumvention devices"". Distributing DeCSS, the DVD lobby have claimed, is a crime under the DMCA. DeCSS is code that was also a magically dangerous artifact: a circumvention device. Circumvention devices are about to become illegal here. Specifically, three months in chokey (or two years if you really nark the judge), for those who ""distribute otherwise than in the course of a business to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the copyright owner"" one of them. ""Otherwise in the course of business"" is legalese for ""as an ordinary punter"", so it's not just mod-chip sellers who are liable. Anyone who distributes such satanic machines is also a perp. http://www.stand.org.uk/weblog/archive/2002/08/21/000243.php - what you can do to stop all this That's not going to go down well with ANDREW SIMMONS. Regular NTK readers will remember Andrew as a lightning rod to lawyers. Not only was he John Doe #13 in the American DeCSS case, but in a completely unrelated affair, he waws threatened with all manner of nastiness just for publishing his list of doomed dotcoms on his Website [NTK 2000-09-22]. In the last week, he's had another letter via Demon, finally ordering him to remove his shiny ""circumvention device"" (aka DeCSS) from his site. It sounds like the lawyers may have shot their wad a tad early: the EUCD rules don't kick in until Christmas. But when the new laws do hit, and if what Andrew's preposterous correspondent says is believed in a UK court, hosting DeCSS *will* mean jail. There's been some talk about how the EUCD rules are better than the DMCA, because they specifically exclude computer programs from the new rules. Well, it looks like DeCSS is no longer just a computer program. From now on, it could become a special ""nick me"" tag for your Website. http://www.xenoclast.org/free-sklyarov-uk/2002-August/002923.html - here we go again http://www.stand.org.uk/weblog/archive/2002/08/21/000243.php - CLICK ON THE DAMN LINK >> ANTI-NEWS << berating the obvious surely approaching the end of the PUERILE GOOGLE MISSPELLINGS soon: http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22penny+farting%22 vs http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22whitewater+farting%22 - we suspect some people are using ""poofreading"" deliberately, but probably not ""potable document format"", or the enigmatic: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22To+Be+Set+Browser+Caption%22 ... presumably meant ""interfaith"" (unless of course they're Mac loyalists): http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/23/dohfaith.gif ... banner ads haven't been getting any less inappropriate either: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/23/dohcruz.gif ... A Keyboard, Yesterday: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2208216.stm ...""A levles"" in ""Phisics, Information Technoligies, Languges"": www.elance.com/c/fp/main/viewprofile.pl?view_person=insspirito&catid=10231 ... ""Alcohol makes others better-looking"" - scientists' shock finding: http://www.msnbc.com/news/796225.asp ... not judging them or anything: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/23/dohsin.gif ... experience required in handling the *really* big accounts: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/23/dohgod.gif ... >> EVENT QUEUE << goto's considered non-harmful Is it just us, but just 5 years after Lara Croft appeared on the cover of ""The Face"", could it be that the PlayStation is now even cooler than ever? As if anyone had any doubts, next week's PLAYSTATION EXPERIENCE (from Thu 2002-08-29, Earl's Court, London) features exclusive demos of imminent releases, teen band ""Blazing Squad"", skateboarding, BMXing, plus DJ sets from the likes of XFM bootleggers James Hyman and Eddie Temple-Morris. And, best of all, Sony are charging you a mere UKP8 (plus booking fee) for the privilege of allowing them to market all their upcoming titles to you. http://www.ects.co.uk/pressmore.html?type=1&articleID=43 - still, Gareth ""Gaz Top"" Jones is hosting the ECTS awards http://www.caextreme.org/ - coin-op collectors hit San Jose in 2 weeks' time http://www.cobd.co.uk/yakfestpage.htm - Llamasoft all-dayer in Oxford pub end of Sep http://www.frightfest.co.uk/programme2002.html - this weekend: horror film fest in London, with ""Lupo"" >> TRACKING << sufficiently advanced technology : the gathering The crazy counterintuitive conditional probability world of BAYES THEOREM has a reputation for making judges look stupid in DNA-testing murder cases, and search-engines look even stupider when they suggest ""relevant documents"" - but it's getting a bit of a re-renaissance in the spam filtering world. Tradition states Naive Bayesian alone doesn't work well enough at filtering by example, so it's good to see dozens of people independently sloshing around the noospere looking for better tweaked solutions. Including, of course, leading noosphere cadet ERIC S RAYMOND, whose Bayesian BOGOFILTER is fast, has extra smarts, and is up to version 0.2. Unfortunately, as with Raymond's abandoned kernel configurator and recent anti-gay anti-islam anti-vegetable rants, it requires taking on board just a *bit* too much extra baggage to really take off. Rennies' IFILE around has been around for a while, and has support for MH and mutt. Gary Arnold's BAYESPAM is something he knocked up in Perl for qmail; a good start if you want to try this yourself. Which you should, because nobody's cracked it yet. http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html - what i did after i invented another new language http://www.sjdm.org/mail-archive/jdm-society/2000-November/002244.html - so, given a probability of 1% that a judge has understood Bayes before http://tuxedo.org/~esr/bogofilter/bogofilter.html - of course some say the bogofilter should be on ESR's outgoing mail http://www.ai.mit.edu/~jrennie/ifile/ - leading by example http://www.garyarnold.com/projects.php#bayespam - ""Don't hurt me, I'm a C programmer!"" >> MEMEPOOL << ceci n'est pas une http://www.gagpipe.com/ worth it for the elaborate assembly instructions/ blank page excuses alone: http://www.log.dial.pipex.com/things/ ... http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20020822/ts_nm/bush_dc_14 vs http://www.theonion.com/onion3724/bush_vows_to_remove.html ... be a bit funnier if it read them out in her voice as well: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/l_tabraham/jbrr.htm ... hey, in future, why not try sending us these while they're still vaguely topical?: http://www.chthonic.f9.co.uk/24/ vs http://thesurrealist.co.uk/24/ ... When Audiophiles Attack #5 (or #6?) - THE QUANTUM PURIFIER: http://www.bybeetech.com/ vs http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/galleries/gallery_q/morse.html ... when oh when will the bloggers tire of putting a new word in front of ""chalking""?: http://zapatopi.net/psychalking.html ... just one small step closer to ""Star Trek"" warp drives: http://physicsweb.org/article/news/6/8/11/ ... doing well for ""teaser openings"": http://humanity.berlios.de/usr-bin-perl/ ... CRONENBERG to direct (one of two) upcoming JUDGE DREDD movies?... bloody students: http://www.elve.net/rtips0b.htm ... >> GEEK MEDIA << get out less TV>> the week's late-night sci-fi selection starts off with Yul Brunner 1970s post-apocalyptic beat-em-up THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR (12.40am, Fri, C5), John ""The Last Seduction"" Dahl's bonkers brainscanner UNFORGETTABLE (2.05am, Fri, C4), and the seems-to-last-an-eternity STARGATE (11.05pm, Sat, BBC1)... the BBC have swiftly replaced the advertised showing of serial killer psycho-profiler ""Messiah 2"" with repeats of THE LOST WORLD (9.15pm, Sat, BBC1)... and, considering what came after, AMERICAN PIE (9.05pm, Sat, C4) may be eventually regarded as one of the great teen movies of all time... it's a double- Arnie fertility-horror double-bill in TWINS (6.20pm, Sun, BBC1) and JUNIOR (4.50pm, Mon, BBC1)... Nell McAndrew and Rhona Cameron contribute to a slightly vague interpretation of ""celebrity"" in I'M A CELEBRITY - GET ME OUT OF HERE! (8pm, Sun, ITV)... WHEN [DIANA] DIED - DEATH OF A PRINCESS (9pm, Sun, C4) contains ""scenes of nudity and religious ritual"" - funny what people find offensive nowadays ... and Jeff ""Tron"" Bridges plays the other half of that K-Pax double-act in STARMAN (2.30pm, Mon, C5) - all together now: ""You don't understand, Mrs Hayden: that *thing* is no longer your husband!""... archaeology imitates ""Coneheads"" in ANCIENT MURDER MYSTERY: RIDDLE OF THE CONE-SHAPED SKULLS (8pm, Mon, C5)... odd scheduling for Bill Murray's kid-friendly identity mixup THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO LITTLE (11.05pm, Tue, BBC1)... and if only they'd got hold of Tim Burton's recent ""reimagining"" to show after the run of BATTLE FOR/ FAREWELL TO/ BACK TO THE PLANET OF THE APES (1.30pm, Tue-Thu, ITV), you could have watched the franchise deteriorate before your very eyes... FILM>> good to see Time Magazine's staff staying cool long enough to publish their final ""Humanity Doomed"" collectors' edition for the backstory of ""X-Files"" director Rob Bowman's ""2000AD""-style Brit-set monster apocalypse REIGN OF FIRE ( http://www.capalert.com/capreports/reignoffire.htm : ""Here's to evolution!""; many deaths by incineration; child permitted in hardhat construction area; massive tattoos)... it's Martin ""Bad Boys"" Lawrence and Academy Award nominee Tom ""In The Bedroom"" Wilkinson - together at last! - in funnier-than- you'd-expect ""Galaxy Quest""/""A Knight's Tale"" hybrid BLACK KNIGHT ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2001/black_knight.html : [Lawrence] does all sorts of mugging and facial contortions at the camera that some kids might want to imitate; we hear the King fart at dinner; some kids might want to imitate all of the action-based fighting that occurs)... or there's badfilm stalwart Heather Graham and ""My Cousin Vinny"" Academy Award winner Marisa ""In The Bedroom"" Tomei in clumsy Bollywood porn comedy pastiche THE GURU ( http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ : Contains strong sex references and language)... DRESS DOWN FRIDAY>> after an unexpected 3-month hiatus - because, hey, who buys t-shirts in the summer? - NTK's online store is back to full strength at http://www.geekstyle.co.uk/ and now features lengthy explanations of exactly what PayPal will attempt to charge you. Also new this month: lots of designs now available in XXL, including the ever-popular 404 /SHIRT/TIE NOT FOUND, a glow-in-the-dark variant of the ZX font BORN TO RUN one, plus slightly more limited numbers of the arcade-style HI-SCORE TABLE and the last few remaining souvenirs from June's EXTREME COMPUTING show. Oh and copies of Mark Bennett's BLACK ICE magazine (for just US$7 plus postage and packing) - Brighton's very own answer to ""Mondo 2000""... meanwhile, your entries have continued to flood in, a leading contender being CHRIS HOWE's possibly Designers-Republic- influenced http://www.geekstyle.co.uk/images/chrismessiah.gif - though his email address appears to have changed recently, so if anyone knows where he is, could you ask him to get in touch? We also enjoyed JAMES SWIFT's politically motivated http://www.3dengineer.com/tshirts/privacylogged.gif , BRUCE's heartfelt http://www.growf.org/shirts/crack.gif , and ASHLEY POMEROY's whimsical http://www.ashleypomeroy.com/arpshirts.gif - but remained puzzled by people sending us what appear to be parodies of our existing parody designs, from OWAIN KENWAY's http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/dsky/1337spotting.html through to JOF's http://www.overhope.org.uk/misc/revolution.jpg and PAUL ""THE FRIDAY THING"" CARR's perhaps over-self-explanatory: http://www.geekstyle.co.uk/images/tft-shirt.jpg . And if your design skills aren't up to this high standard, you can of course just mail us a text slogan, so long as it's at least as funny as SIMON LIPSON's ""NTK: ROTFL meets ROT-13"", ANDREW SIMMONS' ""NTK: Notes you don't want to save, and for link evaluation"", or PHIL SOUTH's ""Frieze - Marther - Farquhar"" - but designed to look like it's the name of a law company!... meanwhile, the http://www.geekstyle.co.uk/images/ gallery reveals the ""Buy One, Subvert The Mass Media, Get One Free"" contest to be hotting up once again, as 25-year-old web designer GRAEME DAVISON ""just happened"" to be wearing the shirt that spells ""fuck"" in ASCII URL-encoding when he was photographed by THE NORTHERN ECHO about his trip to see ""Attack Of The Clones"" open in LA. Even though this was only a local newspaper, the judging panel felt he deserved the full prize (of another t-shirt), as the story goes on to cover the ostensibly pointless nature of the entire exercise. 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Beberg"" To: ""Joseph S. Barrera III"" Cc: Subject: Re: The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates.. In-Reply-To: <3D6A488C.7000609@barrera.org> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:09:28 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Adam L. Beberg wrote: > > Fair use needs to be clarified a bit > > That's an understatement!!! Yes, it is :( > > How else do i ever have hope of finding a job working for someone > > that makes things people are supposed to ... *drumroll* pay for. > > Well, you could damn well get a fucking better attitude. I practically > handed you a job the other week and you pissed all over me. I'm done > helping you. You have joined a very exclusive club that up to now has > only had my sister as a member. Forwarding me stuff from a list is hardly handing me a job. I tracked them down, they dont exist anymore, like 99% of the things I track down the req's are pulled or there is a freeze. The real problem is you cant even train for jobs now, since they _demand_ 7-10 years at a job paid to do the wierd collection of skills they want. But I'll get lucky eventually and someone I know will be a hiring manager. - Adam L. ""Duncan"" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ beberg@mithral.com",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Wed Aug 14 11:00:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3261644148 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:52:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7E9Js408293 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:19:54 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7E9H1J23300; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:17:03 +0200 Received: from python (gw01.es3.egwn.net [212.9.66.13]) (authenticated) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g7E9GcJ23205 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:16:39 +0200 From: Matthias Saou To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: Problem with my spec file Message-Id: <20020814111509.1d51dbca.matthias@egwn.net> In-Reply-To: <001201c2435a$2e4051c0$6501a8c0@viper> References: <001201c2435a$2e4051c0$6501a8c0@viper> Organization: Electronic Group Interactive X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) Reply-BY: Tue, 24 Jul 2000 19:02:00 +1000 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux power! X-Message-Flag: Try using a real operating system : GNU/Linux power! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:15:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:15:09 +0200 Once upon a time, Victor wrote : > Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? it's like make doesn't take > the PREFIX override... It's crazy. I don't get it... > OS: TurboLinux6 rmp3.0.6 make 3.79.1 > > I just don't get this. It should work... > [...] > > %build > %{__perl} Makefile.PL LOCAL_RULES_DIR=/etc/spamassassin > INSTALLDIRS=vendor PREFIX=%{_prefix} > make OPTIMIZE=""$RPM_OPT_FLAGS"" PREFIX=%{_prefix} > %install > rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT > %makeinstall PREFIX=%{buildroot}%{_prefix} \ > INSTALLMAN1DIR=%{buildroot}%{_mandir}/man1 \ > INSTALLMAN3DIR=%{buildroot}%{_mandir}/man3 \ > LOCAL_RULES_DIR=%{buildroot}%{_sysconfdir}/spamassassin [...] Well, first you need to look at the Makefile.PL to see if it uses the PREFIX you're trying to pass to it or not. Maybe you'll need to ""override"" other paths when doing the ""make"". Second, the ""%makeinstall"" macro automatically overrides many common values like ""prefix="" or ""datadir="", so it's completely redundant with the ""PREFIX="" you're passing to it. Take a look at the ""Makefile"" you have at that point to see how the ""install"" target is, and what it uses. Last, as Chris suggested, you can take a look at an existing package, like the one in Rawhide ;-) Matthias -- Matthias Saou World Trade Center ------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta System and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain Electronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23 _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Fri Oct 4 11:02:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337416F6D for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:01:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:01:45 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9480oK08852 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:00:50 +0100 Message-Id: <200210040800.g9480oK08852@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: zawodny Subject: RSS Critical Mass Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:00:50 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000221.html Date: 2002-10-03T21:59:32-08:00 Is it just me, or is RSS really, really close to critical mass. 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Beberg"" , Subject: Re[2]: Selling Wedded Bliss (was Re: Ouch...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:16:29 +0200 (CEST) On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, CDale wrote: > It also depends on what the fad is or what is in style. (: DNA's idea of fads is on the 100 kiloyear scale, unfortunately. As long as current fads don't involve in-vivo rewrite of the genome, homeoboxes including (now there's a problem for you, homeoboxing the adult), they're not all that smart an idear. > Actualy our silly antiquated ideas about relationships and love have > resulted in the bleedings of many upon many a page (and musical > instrumnet, and canvas) What's the problem if we dash a little Mrs. Art is sure nice. However, if art is our first priority we're kinda fux0red, if we've set our sight on a sustainable culture. > Dash on them? (: Or cayenne. Or ginger. (mm ask me about ginger > root play). > > And let me tell you this: just because a child happens to be > single-parented (what a word), does not mean that child is > dysfunctional or lives in a dysfunctional home. The govt/media/church Our firmware is not built to be single-parented. You can counteract that somewhat by exposing the kid to a community of close friends, but not too many do that. > has tried to make it look like there is a disintegration, when in > fact, there is a coming together of other family members and friends > to raise children. It's not decaying -- it's changing. Nothing wrong > with change. I don't know what exactly is wrong, but something is definitely wrong. This is way too important to be left to just our intuition of what is right and what is wrong. > > At least from the viewpoint of demographics sustainability and > > counterpressure to gerontocracy and resulting innovatiophobia we're doing > > something wrong. > > > > Maybe we should really go dirty Tleilaxu all the way. > > > > Maybe y'all should buy m-w some more bandwidth. m-w?",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 30 13:53:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CBF16F19 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:49:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:49:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8TErFg15436 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:53:16 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3772940A9; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97682940A0 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from endeavors.com ([66.126.120.174]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H3700J8CFZOE4@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for fork@xent.com; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:52:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Alan Bolcer Subject: Re: EBusiness Webforms: cluetrain has left the station To: FoRK Reply-To: gbolcer@endeavors.com Message-Id: <3D971165.1CA9D617@endeavors.com> Organization: Endeavors Technology, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en, pdf References: <3D95C839.8E8701FD@endeavors.com> Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:42:45 -0700 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > Although it's like a total shock to 99.999% (5nines) of all the > employed website designers out there, the truth is webforms /can/ > accept ""U.S. of A"" as a country. Incredible, but true. Web forms can > also accept /multiple/ or even /free-form/ telephone numbers and can > even be partitioned into manageable steps. All this can also be done > without selling exclusive rights to your wallet to the World's > Second-Richest Corporation (assuming Cisco is still #1) and vendor > locking your business into their ""small transaction fee"" tithe. Ah, but you've just gotten to the crux of the situation. There's good design and bad design. There's good testing and bad testing. The problem is, anyone can design a good Web form, but nobody does. I think ""best practices"" hasn't caught up on main street Web enablement yet. There's some really great packages on how to do this stuff and in fact the usability people knew that Web forms needed to be fixed 5 years ago, so that's why we got XForms and XHTML. You can shoot yourself in the foot and people usually do. What the problem is, they don't even recognize that they're gimpy--ever. They just keeping trundling along making a mess of everything assured in their job security that they can build Web forms without even caring if they can be used or not beyond their test machine. If you had a piece of software and a security warning came out 5 years ago on it, would you run that software? Wouldn't you have patched or upgraded something so fundamentally broken 4 years and 11 months ago? What I want to know is why would someone use Web forms best practices from 5 years ago? I mean you can get a college degree in that time. Imagine if the next version of Microsoft Windows or Red Hat Linux forced you to use a tiled window manager? Sure, tiled windows were the best we had for a brief period of time, but they are completely useless except for some terminal based replacement applications. The bottom line is, if you can't get across the bridge, then it's broken regardless of whose fault it really is, and it's the business that needs to take responsibility as they are the ones that wanted to put the bridge there in the first place. Greg",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 19 11:03:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3672A441A3 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:55:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7H4rC619195 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 05:53:12 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7232940C1; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp1.auracom.net (smtp1.auracom.net [165.154.140.23]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028272940C1 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maya.dyndns.org (ts5-033.ptrb.interhop.net [165.154.190.97]) by smtp1.auracom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g7H4Phn19351 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by maya.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id BCCF31C336; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:50:37 -0400 (EDT) To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Al'Qaeda's fantasy ideology: Policy Review no. 114 References: <58113821767.20020816230818@magnesium.net> From: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Home-Page: http://www.teledyn.com Organization: TCI Business Innovation through Open Source Computing Message-Id: Reply-To: Gary Lawrence Murphy X-Url: http://www.teledyn.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 17 Aug 2002 00:50:37 -0400 >>>>> ""b"" == bitbitch writes: b> My only problem with this article ... 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L. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 19 11:05:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766C2441B1 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:55:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7I39T623434 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 04:09:32 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96222940C1; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03974294098 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17gGPR-0001aU-00; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:07:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: To: Digital Bearer Settlement List , cypherpunks@lne.com, cyberia-l@listserv.aol.com, dcsb@ai.mit.edu, irr@tb.tf, fork@xent.com From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: IP: The FCC NPRM on the Broadcast Flag Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:06:58 -0400 --- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ip-sub-1-outgoing@admin.listbox.com Delivered-To: ip-sub-1@majordomo.pobox.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 21:27:04 -0400 Subject: IP: The FCC NPRM on the Broadcast Flag From: Dave Farber To: ip Sender: owner-ip-sub-1@admin.listbox.com Reply-To: farber@cis.upenn.edu I am in data gathering mode preparatory to writing a response to the FCC NPRM on the Digital Broadcast flag. While I was at the FCC I had a set of opportunities to hear out the media companies about that and I was unconvinced then that it was a good idea. I am more convinced now that it is not wise. I am interested in Ipers opinions on this -- for and against and will share the responses when I digest them. (as well as credit the ideas in the response (with or without attribution -- your call)). Dave For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ""... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience."" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Tue Aug 27 00:00:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5D043F9B for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:00:58 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7QMsVZ13137 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:54:32 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596833F0F3; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA623F9F3 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7QMj9S03166 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:45:09 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QMj9Y03162 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:45:09 -0400 Received: from austin-jump.vircio.com (jump-austin.vircio.com [192.12.3.99]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QMUFl20693 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:30:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 5815 invoked by uid 104); 26 Aug 2002 22:45:09 -0000 Received: from cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com by localhost.localdomain with qmail-scanner-0.90 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4219. . Clean. Processed in 0.363928 secs); 26/08/2002 17:45:08 Received: from deepeddy.vircio.com (@[10.1.2.1]) (envelope-sender ) by austin-jump.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Aug 2002 22:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 6638 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 22:45:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) (?mUS5Vc4pF2qLz/mLmfOBxJqd0SxJJKFu?@[127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Aug 2002 22:45:05 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Anders Eriksson Cc: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Exmh && speed In-Reply-To: <20020826223448.0009A3F21@milou.dyndns.org> References: <20020826223448.0009A3F21@milou.dyndns.org> X-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg X-Image-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/chris.gif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""==_Exmh_-1977488590P""; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1030401904.6628.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> From: Chris Garrigues X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.57 Reply-To: Chris Garrigues X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:45:03 -0500 --==_Exmh_-1977488590P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Anders Eriksson > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:34:43 +0200 > > Just one more info. I measured the time spent wrapping the stuff in > Ftoc_Next with time {} so the data is for real. One difference > between mine and Valdis' setup (judging from his trace) is that I use > the address book. I've been doing that for ages so that can't be the > problem. Assuming it's my fault (which it probably is since nobody else has really been in there), it's most likely related to the number of sequences in a folder. I'd guess that something is either being called that shouldn't be or is being called more times than it should be. > Is there a way to get the log to print time with higher granularity? Not that I'm aware of. If you look in the code, there are various places where the time function is called in order to see how long it took to do things. You'll probably want to borrow that technique. Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 716 Congress, Suite 200 Austin, TX 78701 +1 512 374 0500 World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers. --==_Exmh_-1977488590P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE9aq9vK9b4h5R0IUIRAkZrAJ4uCzn3j+5JlaqhDeEOVBMZlSATqwCdGO8z gy5px3yMpRraa8JkwHRwmM0= =fGBe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1977488590P-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Jul 24 14:15:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09133440CC for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:15:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODB2414451 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:11:02 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1568E294134; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6299D29410C for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 05:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ThosStew@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id k.135.11be3f63 (4419); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: ThosStew@aol.com Message-Id: <135.11be3f63.2a7000bc@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Baseline] Raising chickens the high-tech way To: dl@silcom.com, fork@spamassassin.taint.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:08:12 EDT In a message dated 7/23/2002 6:02:27 PM, dl@silcom.com writes: >If we're willing to count artificial >selection as genetic engineering, Of course was genetic engineering. It used the fundamental mechanism of genetics (inheritance of traits), and not randomly, but intentionally--breeding for long fur, fat hams, whatever. The degree to which the engineers--farmers, breeders--understood exactly how the mehcanism works is only marginally relevant to the question of whether it was engineering. Science progresses. Over the years, centuries, their, our, knowledge increased, and domestication became more effective. Bit by bit the mechanisms became known--Mendel making a major breakthrough. The first hybrid grains (which date from the 1920s) represent another step. Watson and Crick another, etc. But it's engineering--just as Roman architecture was civil engineering, even if they knew less about the mathematics behind it than we do today, just as Galen was a physician, though laughably ignorant by our standards. 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    ",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Sep 19 16:26:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B3B16F03 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:26:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:26:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8JDjkC21962 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:45:46 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A413294167; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from hotmail.com (f91.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.91]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B461629410C for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:41:34 -0700 Received: from 216.30.74.2 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:41:34 GMT X-Originating-Ip: [216.30.74.2] From: ""Russell Turpin"" To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Hanson's Sept 11 message in the National Review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-Id: X-Originalarrivaltime: 19 Sep 2002 13:41:34.0606 (UTC) FILETIME=[451532E0:01C25FE2] Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:41:34 +0000 Robert Harley: >>BTW, I wasn't aware that the 1st Amendment mandated that crap must be >>FoRKed. Chuck Murcko : >It doesn't, BTW. It says the right to free speech shall not be abridged. >That means *you* can't say anything may not be FoRKed or printed or >whatever. Actually, it means just the opposite. The first amendment guarantees Harley's right to say just that. For the outlets where he has editorial control, it even guarantees his right to CENSOR content published through those outlets. The first amendment doesn't limit Harley's speech, and it is neutral with regard to the selection policies of FoRK and other private venues. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Sep 24 10:47:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2115716F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:53 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:53 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8O80CC26584 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:00:12 +0100 Message-Id: <200209240800.g8O80CC26584@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: scripting Subject: After posting my comment yesterday about next things I want to do, I'm star Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:12 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/23#When:8:11:28AM Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:11:28 GMT After posting my comment yesterday about next things[1] I want to do, I'm starting to get job offers. Hey I wasn't expecting that. But I like it I like it. Especially in this stinkin economy. On the other hand can you imagine _me_ with a job? "";->"" [1] http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/22#whatsNextForDave",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Aug 21 13:08:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A1C43C36 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:08:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7LC87Z23405 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:08:07 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17hUGM-0006px-00; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 05:07:02 -0700 Received: from line-zh-102-185.adsl.econophone.ch ([212.53.102.185] helo=dragon.roe.ch) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17hUF5-0002Iz-00 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 05:05:43 -0700 Received: from roe by dragon.roe.ch with LOCAL id 17hUEr-0007Qt-00 for spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:05:29 +0200 From: Daniel Roethlisberger To: SAtalk Message-Id: <20020821120529.GA27260@dragon.roe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: SAtalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [SAtalk] German spam corpus / foreign language spam Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:05:29 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:05:29 +0200 I've been lurking the SA lists since I installed SA on a production machine a while back. While SA did a surprisingly accurate job on detecting English language spam, it did not succeed very well on German language spam, which I keep getting increasing amounts of lately. I've got a lousy results with out of the box scores, very few spam is acually cought. What is the strategy with respect to foreign language spam recognition in SA? I've seen extremely few non-english rules. Is there foreign language rule development going on? Has anybody done work on German spam? In any case, I've started spam/nonspam corpi consisting of only German (and Swiss-German, respectively) messages, to be able to help with German rules. Anybody willing to contribute to the corpus feel free to resend/bounce German spam in a sane way to spam@roe.ch . I cannot be bothered to subscribe to SAsightings just for the odd German spam every hundred++ messages.. how about a list for foreign language spam sightings? Has anybody done this before or am I on the edge of duplicating effort here? I've been thinking on this a bit. I think it would be best if there would be general provisions for foreign language rules. In the spirit of the ok_languages option; let users easily enable or disable rules in certain languages. Like a foreign_rules option which could be used to control which foreign rulesets are active. Usually people would want to use checks in all languages which are in the ok_languages list. Is there any development or are there plans along those lines? Are there other people willing to contribute to effective spam filtering rules in German language? Any kind of feedback is welcome, even flames ;) Cheers, Dan -- Daniel Roethlisberger OpenPGP key id 0x804A06B1 (1024/4096 DSA/ElGamal) 144D 6A5E 0C88 E5D7 0775 FCFD 3974 0E98 804A 06B1 >> privacy through technology, not legislation << ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Aug 1 04:27:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31AC440A8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 01 Aug 2002 04:27:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g713RR218337 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 04:27:27 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17a6ST-0006NG-00; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:17:01 -0700 Received: from smtp-gw.dmv.com ([64.45.128.8]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17a6Ra-0003Mm-00 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:16:06 -0700 Received: from mail-gw.dmv.com (mail-gw.dmv.com [64.45.128.6]) by smtp-gw.dmv.com (8.9.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id XAA91180; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:16:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sven@dmv.com) Received: from homediet (dogpound.dyndns.org [64.45.134.154]) by mail-gw.dmv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g713Q8e80425; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:26:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sven@dmv.com) Message-Id: <00e701c23909$ee063bb0$0201a8c0@homediet> From: ""Sven"" To: Cc: References: <00df01c238fc$f04ac060$0201a8c0@homediet> <20020731193146.B17700@rover.vipul.net> Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Smrazor, Milter, and Max connections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:17:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:17:07 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Vipul Ved Prakash"" To: ""Sven"" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Smrazor, Milter, and Max connections > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 09:44:08PM -0400, Sven wrote: > > With v2.14 of razor client and using Solaris 9 with sendmail 8.12.5 I have > > managed to get smrazor working (milter) -- sort of ... With light server > > loads, it seems to do fine; however during peak traffic times (or peak > > catalogue server usage???) , the smrazor milter stops and sometime dumps > > core as well. Does anyone know of a limit in terms of number of > > messages/minute that can be theoretically processed? I have noticed timeouts > > occuring (I set the milter timeout per message to 15 seconds) often in huge > > lumps and the occasional ""Could not get valid info from Discovery Servers"") > > ????? > > 15 seconds is more than enough timeout... There's no request/minute limit, > and we are not close to hardware limits on any of the servers. > > Could you send me relevant sections from the log file as well as > your config? > >>From the maillog: Jul 31 22:52:20 cartman sendmail[21081]: [ID 801593 mail.error] g712pocb021081: Milter (smrazor): timeout before data read Jul 31 22:52:20 cartman sendmail[21081]: [ID 801593 mail.info] g712pocb021081: Milter (smrazor): to error state Jul 31 22:52:22 cartman sendmail[21091]: [ID 801593 mail.error] g712pocb021091: Milter (smrazor): timeout before data read Jul 31 22:52:22 cartman sendmail[21091]: [ID 801593 mail.info] g712pocb021091: Milter (smrazor): to error state >>From razor-agents.log Jul 31 17:35:43.637025 check[21171]: [ 1] razor-check error: nextserver: discover0: bootstrap_discovery: Jul 31 17:35:43.987175 check[21168]: [ 1] razor-check error: nextserver: discover0: bootstrap_discovery: Jul 31 18:36:34.652485 check[8241]: [ 1] razor-check error: nextserver: Could not get valid info from Discovery Servers Jul 31 22:01:09.162201 check[9973]: [ 1] razor-check error: nextserver: Could not get valid info from Discovery Servers >>From smrazor.err [07/31/2002 22:52:22] (1144) Error reading from razor-check (156a78) (21092): timeout [07/31/2002 22:52:42] (1144) Error reading from razor-check (16b948) (21221): timeout [07/31/2002 22:52:42] (1144) Error reading from razor-check (165348) (21227): timeout [07/31/2002 22:57:21] (1144) Error reading from razor-check (16d118) (22911): timeout razor-agent.conf # # Razor2 config file # # Autogenerated by Razor-Agents v2.14 # Wed Jul 31 11:38:43 2002 # Created with all default values # # see razor-agent.conf(5) man page # debuglevel = 3 identity = identity ignorelist = 0 listfile_catalogue = servers.catalogue.lst listfile_discovery = servers.discovery.lst listfile_nomination = servers.nomination.lst logfile = /var/log/razor-agent.log min_cf = ac razorhome = /etc/razor razorzone = razor2.cloudmark.com rediscovery_wait = 172800 report_headers = 1 turn_off_discovery = 0 use_engines = 1,2,3,4 whitelist = razor-whitelist Realizing that the above, after looking at it, is pretty much no help, changed debug to 9 and output the results to a text file. It is attached but the crux of the messages resemble: Jul 31 23:11:14.633544 check[5689]: [ 7] Can't read file servers.discovery.lst, looking relatve to Jul 31 23:11:14.634218 check[5689]: [ 5] Can't read file /servers.discovery.lst: No such file or directory or Jul 31 23:07:19.115412 check[26156]: [ 6] no discovery listfile: servers.discovery.lst Jul 31 23:07:19.115878 check[26156]: [ 5] Finding Discovery Servers via DNS in the razor2.cloudmark.com zone Jul 31 23:07:19.174862 check[26155]: [ 8] Connection established Jul 31 23:07:19.175667 check[26155]: [ 4] 216.52.13.90 >> 29 server greeting: sn=N&srl=30&ep4=7542-10&a=l Jul 31 23:07:19.176887 check[26155]: [ 4] 216.52.13.90 << 12 Jul 31 23:07:19.177344 check[26155]: [ 6] a=g&pm=csl Jul 31 23:07:19.214020 check[26124]: [ 6] Found 1 Discovery Servers via DNS in the razor2.cloudmark.com zone Jul 31 23:07:19.214729 check[26124]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery Server 216.52.13.90 Jul 31 23:07:19.215383 check[26124]: [ 6] No proper port specified, using 2703 Jul 31 23:07:19.215833 check[26124]: [ 5] Connecting to 216.52.13.90 ... It would appear that even though there is a specified home directory, razor-check cannot read the .lst files and must apparently run discovery at each lookup????? This, btw, is occuring on two separate servers ... Sven ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Jul 26 07:05:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0735440E7 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:05:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q66d427995 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:06:39 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8456929410C; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from mithral.com (watcher.mithral.com [204.153.244.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 918F429410B for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8371 invoked by uid 1111); 26 Jul 2002 06:04:46 -0000 From: ""Adam L. Beberg"" To: chris arkenberg Cc: Subject: Re: USA USA WE ARE NUMBER ....six. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:04:46 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, chris arkenberg wrote: > Perhaps people are starting to notice how profit motive drains the > meaning out of their lives. Kinda sucks to be an ant farming for the > corporate lords. Funny how most of the rest of the world is more and > more apprehensive towards American Democracy. Drains what? My wallet you mean? America _is_ greed, that's who and what we are. > I just went to DC for the first time. I was awestruck by the > monuments, the words of Thomas Jefferson, the Spirit of Democracy set > in stone. Amazing to think that in little more than 200 years our > government could be so far removed from those honorable principles. > Adam Smith presumed that the marketplace would regulate itself > through morality, good faith, and responsibility. Those old white dudes could never see a world that wasnt ALL deeply religeous (science wasnt up to speed yet). How could you not hold these principles as just how you should act? They got that religeon and government should not be the same thing, they didnt get that when society doesnt have any beliefs are all (capitalism is more atheist then communism ever was) it quickly goes to hell as some people have 100 billion and all the rest have too dolla a day. Having been raised in a generally ethical way, it was a big jump to learn to run a business. Lots of lessions in being ruthless, and a few about being sure to hire large Italians to do debt collection (it works!). > Corporate America seems to feel that those principles stand in the way > of making the real bucks. No shit, really? Seriously, if you're not all about screwing over the customer, there is no place for you in the ruling class, and you certainly cant play the American game. > Ah, socialized medicine. Siestas. 6 week vacation leave. I hear Spain is > nice this time of year... That's living, here we only work, buy, and work more to buy more, like rats on a wheel. I can't wait to be rich enough to move somewhere nice, if they will let me get out alive that is. - Adam L. ""Duncan"" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ beberg@mithral.com http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Aug 28 10:49:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359AF43F9B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:48:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S91AZ17260 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:01:10 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12592; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:59:28 +0100 Received: from mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.25]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12553 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:59:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host smtp-out-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.25] claimed to be mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr Received: from mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.69) by mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D6246E800347B50 for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:58:49 +0200 Received: from bolsh.wanadoo.fr (80.8.224.71) by mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FFB7009BCDDF for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:58:49 +0200 Received: from dave by bolsh.wanadoo.fr with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 17jykN-0003gD-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:04:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:04:19 +0200 From: David Neary To: ILUG list Subject: Re: [ILUG] converting strings of hex to ascii Message-Id: <20020828110419.C7705@wanadoo.fr> References: <20020827182940.A6217@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Paul Jakma wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, David Neary wrote: > > > > Actually the following would be in some way sensible: > > > echo -e ""`echo ""$enc"" | sed 's/%\([0-9a-fA-F]\{2,2\}\)/\\\x\1/g'`"" > > > > Why {2,2}? Why not {2}? > > the above was something along the lines i was attempting, once i > realised it was a straight swap. but i couldnt get awk's gensub to > insert the \x for %'s and ='s. Perl's pack() would do the job... > > PS the late reply is because the footer on the original mail (If > > you received this mail in error yadda yadda) got caught in my > > spam filter, and ended up in my junkmail directory. > > might not have been the footer - check my headers. :) Actually, it was worse - a bodycheck showed up a ""remove"" URL. I need a new spam filter (but I want to be able to process false positives, rather than dump them). Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Marseille, France E-Mail: bolsh@gimp.org -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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You can learn more about how to get this software for your own site at : http://www.webdesignhq.com ------------------------------------------------- If you would like to unsubscribe from this newsletter, just click the hyperlink below: http://www.webdesignhq.com/omnivore/vlist/vlist.php?action=out&address=Users@iiu.taint.org",1 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Mon Oct 7 18:54:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0744416F03 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:54:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:54:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (auth02.nl.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g97HkkK10443 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:46:47 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g97Hf3f27840; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:41:03 +0200 Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g97HeXf27563 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:40:33 +0200 Received: from AMD1800.okie-web.com (dialup-65.57.28.171.Dial1.KansasCity1.Level3.net [65.57.28.171]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g97HeP1H527048 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:40:26 -0400 Subject: Re: transcode build problem (was: RH 8 no DMA for DVD drive) From: Alvie To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net In-Reply-To: <20021007185430.7c7e9245.matthias@rpmforge.net> References: <1033953429.13890.4.camel@AMD1800> <1033954359.28832.4.camel@athlon.ckloiber.com> <1033964717.1263.8.camel@AMD1800> <20021007085643.5b9bb88c.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1033997998.1665.6.camel@AMD1800> <20021007155913.3b24ae76.matthias@rpmforge.net> <1034008552.1872.10.camel@AMD1800> <20021007185430.7c7e9245.matthias@rpmforge.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Message-Id: <1034012428.1872.28.camel@AMD1800> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: 07 Oct 2002 12:40:26 -0500 Date: 07 Oct 2002 12:40:26 -0500 On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:54, Matthias Saou wrote: > Once upon a time, Alvie wrote : > > > This is only the last part of it.I used 'rpmbuild --rebuild --without > > avifile transcode.0.6.1-fr2.src.rpm'. > > > af6_decore.cpp:305: 'WAVEFORMATEX' > > is used as a type, but is not defined as a > > type. > > af6_decore.cpp:306: parse error before `if' > [...] > > All of these ""af6"" are related to avifile6 support :-/ > Normally, my 0.6.1-fr2 build of transcode defaults to *not* use avifile, > but you can use ""--with avifile6"" to force recompiling against it. > > Do you have an old avifile installed maybe? > Can you check the ""./configure ..."" line run at the beginning of the > rebuild process to see if it does include the ""--without-avifile6"" option? > Yes it was there. You guessed the problem correctly in an earlier e-mail There was still remnants remaining from an old failed avifile installation. The transcode src.rpm now builds perfectly. Thank you VERY much! You are GOOD. Alvie > Matthias > > -- > Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ > Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi > Load : 0.23 0.14 0.14 > > _______________________________________________ > RPM-List mailing list > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Aug 12 11:06:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7724244158 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:56:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7AN8Ib07334 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:08:18 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19362; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:05:32 +0100 Received: from mail.go2.ie ([62.17.153.101]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19330 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:05:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [62.17.153.101] claimed to be mail.go2.ie Received: from k100-20.bas1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net (k100-20.bas1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.100.20]) by mail.go2.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3298010DE for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:04:56 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: [ILUG] slashdot EW Dijkstra humor From: Nick Murtagh To: ilug@linux.ie In-Reply-To: <3D52537D.8000104@heanet.ie> References: <200208081032.LAA09312@lugh.tuatha.org> <3D52537D.8000104@heanet.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-2mdk Date: 11 Aug 2002 01:04:45 +0100 Message-Id: <1029024286.3017.11.camel@gemini.windmill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 12:18, Dave Wilson wrote: > Despite being one of Dijkstra's brain-damaged children who learned BASIC > at an early age :) I never use GOTO anymore (or any of its bastard > offspring like break, continue, fudged function calls with sleight of > hand in the variables). My code is longer than it might be if I had used You don't use break? What about case statement blocks, or leaving a for or while loop when you know you're finished? -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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On Dienstag, 27. August 2002 05:41 schrieben Sie: > [Question about require tag] Oops, sorry. Now I found out that there is a noewsgroup ... :-) Tschoe, Torsten. _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 12 11:08:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E76440F1 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:56:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79MRZb27985 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:27:37 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309D7294145; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from relay.pair.com (relay1.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E8F8E294144 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16183 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2002 22:18:49 -0000 Received: from adsl-66-124-225-184.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO golden) (66.124.225.184) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 22:18:49 -0000 X-Pair-Authenticated: 66.124.225.184 Message-Id: <015101c23ff2$bb9ded40$640a000a@golden> From: ""Gordon Mohr"" To: References: Subject: Re: David Friedman: Mail Me the Money! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""Windows-1252"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:18:47 -0700 My ideal mailwall will allow message passthrough in many ways: - Sender membership on my personal whitelist or any one of many other external whitelists I respect - Payment of a small fee (via a website and PayPal link) - Demonstration of special per-message effort, either via... - a computational challenge (hashcash) or - other challenge that requires human-level flexibility & followthrough (sender manual whitelisting) - Inclusion of a legally-enforceable guarantee that the mail is not an unsolicited commercial pitch -- one example of this class of guarantee would be a posted bond - By convincing some analysis software agent of mine that I want to see the mail, based on its content and distribution list There's no need to do only one. Some might overlap; the manual process for passing a message through might require the assertion of a legally-enforceable guarantee about the messages' contents. Passing certain tests once might add an address to the persistent whitelist. Any slightly determined and legitimate correspondent would be able to find multiple ways to get their mail read, while spammers would face a situation where the marginal cost of reaching me is much, much greater than the expected return. 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This week, some small things, and a few bigger ones, are selected in the report. Read below. This story continues at: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/09/1147243 Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/09/09/1147243 Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved. ====================================================================== You have received this message because you subscribed to it on use Perl. To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Sep 26 16:42:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5061516F49 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:41:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QFVpg25072 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:31:51 +0100 Message-Id: <200209261531.g8QFVpg25072@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: zawodny Subject: ru stupid Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:31:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000185.html Date: 2002-09-19T22:30:15-08:00 Dan thinks it is evolution. To me it's stupidity, laziness, and apathy. I have to respectfully disagree. Or maybe I'm just being stubborn. For whatever reason, whenever I get e-mail from someone who: Writes ""ur"" instead of ""you are"" or...",0 "From webmake-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Aug 6 12:39:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A037C44165 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:26:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g752Rcv25373 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 03:27:38 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17bXZK-0005YD-00; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:26:02 -0700 Received: from ns2.oplnk.net ([216.90.3.140] helo=mail.oplnk.net) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17bXYj-000653-00 for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:25:25 -0700 Received: from earthman.oplnk.net (66-100-35-58.oplnk.net [66.100.35.58]) by mail.oplnk.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D3F613E0F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:29:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Alan Jackson To: webmake-talk@example.sourceforge.net Message-Id: <20020804212526.67969dc5.ajackson@oplnk.net> In-Reply-To: <20020710125149.2BCB2440A9@netnoteinc.com> References: <20020708202855.C4062@lin.home> <20020710125149.2BCB2440A9@netnoteinc.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [WM] Exclude pages from site map Sender: webmake-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: webmake-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: webmake-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of WebMake. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:25:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:25:26 -0500 Is there a way to exclude a set of pages from the site map? For each page in the site I also create a ""printer friendly"" page, and I would like to exclude all of those form the sitemap. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Alan K. Jackson | To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | alan@ajackson.org | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ webmake-talk mailing list webmake-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmake-talk",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:24:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58CF16F74 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:23:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:23:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93813K19971 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:01:05 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030801.g93813K19971@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: boingboing Subject: Fight Piracy -- Regulate Potty Chairs! Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:01:03 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://boingboing.net/#85516395 Date: Not supplied >>From Ed Felten's ""Freedom to Tinker"" site, regarding the TinkleToonz Musical Potty.: This handy toilet training aid offers a ""magical, musical land of potty training,"" by playing a tune whenever liquid is deposited in it. Since it plays digital audio, it qualifies for regulation as a ""digital media device"" under the Hollings CBDTPA. If the CBDTPA passes, any newly manufactured TinkleToonz Musical Potties will have to incorporate government-approved copy protection technology. Link[1] Discuss[2] [1] http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/cat_fritzs_hit_list.html [2] http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/CnsZyygHAwp",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Sep 4 19:11:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C6416F1F for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:11:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:11:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84I75Z13842 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:07:06 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A7B29420F; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-mx1.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.36]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE02C2941DD for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Tycho (dhcp-60-118.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.60.118]) by cats.ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id g84I5JT12707 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: ""Jim Whitehead"" To: ""FoRK"" Subject: CD player UI for toddlers Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Ucsc-Cats-Mailscanner: Found to be clean Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:03:03 -0700 So, like many young children, my daughter Tatum (age 21 months) *really* likes music. She also likes to have control over her environment, and this means she wants to be the one putting CDs into the CD player, and getting the music playing. By watching Tatum, I've discovered that you can learn a lot about UI design from watching 21-month-olds use technology. There is definitely a market niche for a toddler-friendly CD/MP3 player. The CD player we have combines play and pause in a single button, but doesn't provide *instantaneous* feedback that the button was pushed, instead requiring you to wait until the music starts, 5-10 seconds. This is a UI disaster. Since Tatum doesn't get feedback right away, she presses the button again, thereby pausing the CD before it even plays. She'll only ever get music if she presses the button an odd number of times. This happens a surprising amount of the time, since she eventually hits the button again when the music doesn't play. For toddlers, pressing play must cause the music to start immediately, within half a second, for the toddler to get the causality and not press the button multiple times. As well, pressing the button multiple times shouldn't change the semantics, like an elevator button. No matter how many times you press, the elevator still comes to that floor. The play button needs to be the same. The back-hinged door mechanism feeding the CD into the player is also a UI disaster for Tatum. Since the door hinges on the back, Tatum has to angle CDs to put them in, and take them out. Putting CDs in isn't much of a problem, but taking them out is. Since Tatum grabs CDs by the back edge, that edge comes out first, hitting the lid. Tatum eventually forces and wiggles the CD out, a process that's hard on the CD and the player (but which hasn't yet resulted in the CD player being broken). Surprisingly, it hasn't been a problem getting the CD hole onto the spindle -- Tatum seems to understand this concept, and the CD load area geometry naturally guides the CD. Tatum's CD player also plays tapes and has FM radio. For a toddler, this is a mistake. Tatum doesn't understand the need to flick a switch to put the player into a specific mode. She understands putting a CD in, and pressing the play button. She sometimes understands the buttons for advancing a song, but uses them erratically. As well, the radio feature has both FM mono and FM stero, a distinction totally lost on Tatum. Tatum only understands the binary distinction of music/no music. What would the ideal toddler CD player be like? It would immediately start playing a CD after it was loaded. As soon as the CD load door was closed, it would give some audible feedback. It would have a single large play button. The other typical CD controls would be larger than normal, but at least half the size of the play button, and located far away from the play button, so there is no chance of them getting accidentally pressed on the way to play. The play button would be a bright color that is different from the color of the player, and different from the color of the other CD control keys. The device would only play CDs, no other functions. The CD load area would flip open at least 80 degrees. It should be small, approachable for a toddler. It should be possible to repeatedly drop the player from a height of 1-2' without affecting the player. - Jim",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Aug 14 11:01:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A135743C36 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:52:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7DJL0415153 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:21:01 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2E32940A6; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from Boron.MeepZor.Com (i.meepzor.com [204.146.167.214]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263E72940A5 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Golux.Com (dmz-firewall [206.199.198.4]) by Boron.MeepZor.Com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7DJJKR20997; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:19:20 -0400 Message-Id: <3D595E66.25A7C063@Golux.Com> From: Rodent of Unusual Size Organization: The Apache Software Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Flatware or Road Kill? Subject: A message for our times Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:30:46 -0400 I'm not up to forking the text, but for your entertainment: http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/bug_count.html -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ ""Millennium hand and shrimp!"" http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From mikej@aol.com Mon Sep 9 19:31:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by zzzzason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2896916EFC for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:31:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:31:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from aol.com ([200.72.19.107]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g89HotC25947 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:50:55 +0100 Reply-To: Message-Id: <016c58d11c3e$1381a0d1$5db47ed1@yxxpql> From: To: Subject: Earn $139,000 a year as a DAY TRADER! Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:45:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It was the Spring of 1979. I was just a tall, goofy looking kid in middle school with buck-teeth and freckles. Each day in the cafeteria, I walked from table to table ... Stealing other kids' lunch money. No, I didn't rob them with a gun or a knife - I just made them a little deal. ""Let me borrow two dollars today,"" I said, ""and I'll bring you five dollars next week."" The investment was too good to pass up, and other kids were throwing their lunch money at me like gravy on mashed potatoes. Of course when ""next week"" rolled around and I couldn't pony up the cash, I promised to pay them even more the week after that, if they would just let me keep their investment a little bit longer. 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I've now tried > multiple ways to make it just transparently work on 5.00503 and failed. > If anyone has any bright ideas please jump in. > > You see anyone upgrading from the CPAN shell will get a failure on the line: > > use ExtUtils::MakeMaker 5.45; Quite some modules from CPAN do have a line like this nowadays (I think or read so somewhere, respectively). And the Perl error message is very clear: ""ExtUtils::MakeMaker version 5.45 required--this is only version 5.4302 at Makefile.PL line 2."" > Because it never gets chance to reach a ""WriteMakefile"" line with a > PREREQ_PM => { ExtUtils::MakeMaker => 5.45 } option. So the CPAN shell > can't automatically upgrade this module. I cannot think of any way > around this. I could think of a solution: We could remove the ""use"" line and add the version to PREREQ_PM. After WriteMakefile() we could add the lines require ExtUtils::MakeMaker; ExtUtils::MakeMaker->VERSION(5.45); to do per hand what 'use ExtUtils::MakeMaker 5.45' does automagically; `perl Makefile.PL` will die with a ""Uncaught exception from user code: ExtUtils::MakeMaker version 5.45 required--this is only version 5.4302 at Makefile.PL line 103."" there but we've got a Makefile. But I don't know if CPAN will run the make anyway... > To add insult to injury, the PM_FILTER part gets run during pm_to_blib, > which would be fine, except ExtUtils::MakeMaker doesn't let you write a > MY::pm_to_blib - it's non-overridable! So even though we could > potentially copy the 5.45 ExtUtils::Install::pm_to_blib code somewhere > into the spamassassin codebase (I tried that first), we can't cause the > Makefile to call our code :-( We could call the preprocessor on install time. That's not a very clean approach but could work. We can also overwrite pm_to_blib in the Makefile directly per postamble. We already have a useless line ""pm_to_blib: spamassassin doc/.made"" there. Adding some commands in this section gives some make warnings (""Makefile:933: warning: overriding commands for target `pm_to_blib' Makefile:877: warning: ignoring old commands for target `pm_to_blib'"") but does work. Not a very good solution either. > So I'm *strongly* against the current use of ExtUtils::MakeMaker 5.45 > usage (if this were an Apache project this would be my veto vote), and > really hope we can find another way. The ""use MakeMaker::..."" error message is IMHO quite clear, so I think it's ok to require the user to do a manual update of ExtUtils::MakeMaker before the SA installation. But that's just my opinion ;-) I'll ask on makemaker@perl.org for the best solution. 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That is, people need more than refutations, they need a compelling alternate explanation (hint: climate variability doesn't cover all the bases). - Jim",0 "From exmh-workers-admin@redhat.com Tue Sep 24 19:48:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D61016F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:48:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:48:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (listman.spamassassin.taint.org [66.187.233.211]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8OHftC14906 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:41:55 +0100 Received: from listman.spamassassin.taint.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCC9404E3; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: exmh-workers@listman.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AD74058F for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.spamassassin.taint.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8OHTdg25948 for exmh-workers@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:29:39 -0400 Received: from mx1.spamassassin.taint.org (mx1.spamassassin.taint.org [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8OHTdf25944 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:29:39 -0400 Received: from austin-jump.vircio.com (IDENT:o9SX/V2vSkSNogAwP663lVz/JOIlGdTy@jump-austin.vircio.com [192.12.3.99]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8OHBni01193 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:11:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 17610 invoked by uid 104); 24 Sep 2002 17:29:38 -0000 Received: from cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com by localhost.localdomain with qmail-scanner-0.90 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4224. . 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Processed in 0.36098 secs); 24/09/2002 12:29:38 Received: from deepeddy.vircio.com ([10.1.2.1]) (envelope-sender ) by austin-jump.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2002 17:29:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14155 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 17:29:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO deepeddy.vircio.com) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by localhost (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2002 17:29:37 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Scott Lipcon Cc: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: traceback in new exmh In-Reply-To: <20020924023505.8CAE937B@mercea.net> References: <20020924023505.8CAE937B@mercea.net> X-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg X-Image-Url: http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/chris.gif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=""==_Exmh_-1249285507P""; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=""application/pgp-signature"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1032888576.14149.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com> From: Chris Garrigues X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.57 Reply-To: Chris Garrigues X-Loop: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org Sender: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org Errors-To: exmh-workers-admin@spamassassin.taint.org X-Beenthere: exmh-workers@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:29:35 -0500 --==_Exmh_-1249285507P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Scott Lipcon > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:35:05 -0400 > > The speed is a problem for sure - It takes a long time to do the > rescanning of sequences (I associate it with hitting the 'flist' > button, or when my background flist goes off). I'm running on a > pretty fast system (Athlon 1700+, 512Mb RAM, 10k RPM ultra SCSI disk) > and hitting flist used to take no more than a second. The big > difference might just be perception, because the the old code just > updated all the folders (count + color) all at once, instead of making > it look like there is 0 unseen, then counting its way back up. > > I doubt I'll have much time in the immediate future to hack at this, > but if I do - can you suggest areas that might be the best to > optimize? If not, do you think we can put in some preferences to > disable some of the more intensive features? I'd rather disable all > the sequence support (except unseen, of course) and have reasonable > speed. I suspect people on slow machines would find the current > state unusable. If I knew where the problem was, I'd fix it myself. Finding it is probably more work than the actual fix. > > > > This is because of your Hook_MsgShow_update_unseen which is calling a fun > ctio > > n > > which no longer exists. > > > > I suspect you need > > Seq_Del $exmh(folder) unseen $msgid > > now instead of > > Mh_MarkSeen $exmh(folder) $msgid > > > > Thanks. I'm not sure I'll need it with the new sequence code, but I > might. Does your new code commit sequences immediately? The old code > didn't, so I put that in to help keep my mh and exmh windows in sync. Yes it does. Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 716 Congress, Suite 200 Austin, TX 78701 +1 512 374 0500 World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers. --==_Exmh_-1249285507P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE9kKD/K9b4h5R0IUIRAp9DAJsF2W+5cvbayu3szYhYW7TUdAb64QCfT3/t vgMbAAyyOjJW465cwD6wpfk= =0Rwl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1249285507P-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list Exmh-workers@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Sep 5 11:30:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E88116F7A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:28:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 05 Sep 2002 11:28:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84MJ5Z21570 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:19:05 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9926D2942CC; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from dream.darwin.nasa.gov (betlik.darwin.nasa.gov [198.123.160.11]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679302942CA for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cse.ucsc.edu (paperweight.darwin.nasa.gov [198.123.160.27]) by dream.darwin.nasa.gov ( -- Info omitted by ASANI Solutions, LLC.) with ESMTP id g84MHeh28258; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3D768684.30702@cse.ucsc.edu> From: Elias Sinderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Whitehead Cc: FoRK Subject: Re: Gecko adhesion finally sussed. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:17:40 -0700 Jim Whitehead wrote: >Great, this is half of what I'd need to become Spider Man! Now all I need to >figure out is how to do that spider web shooting thing. > Heheheh... So becomming a university professor was your second career choice? ;-) Seriously though (or not, as the case may be), The Amazing Spiderman had many other abilities to help him out. Most notable, perhaps, was his 'spidey strength' and 'spidey senses'. The strength to weight ratio of a spider is so high that Spiderman is able to throw a bus several city blocks with little effort. His endurance is similarly enhanced as well. As for the spidey senses, well they're really great, but AFAIK not really well explained in the comic series. Spiders have multiple eyes, ears, noses and tongues which Peter Parker did not visibly have. There have been a few attempts to explain his heightened reflexes, from the biological to hidden methamphetamine use, but none seem to do the spidey sense justice... I seem to recall Spiderman being able to detect the presence of well concealed weapons and even sense evil-doers while they were in their street clothes. Perhaps the spidey senses are the result of some sort of quantum entanglement? Elias",0 "From Sidney22@webmail.co.za Wed Dec 4 11:58:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DCA16F21 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:57:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:57:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB43eQ825135 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:40:26 GMT Received: from wwxw ([202.99.212.171]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19892 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:41:54 GMT Received: from mx1.mailbox.co.za [65.147.20.174] by wwxw (SMTPD32-7.05) id AD1214C00CA; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 00:17:22 +0800 Message-Id: <0000632d0ef2$00004330$000030d6@mx1.mailbox.co.za> To: From: ""Kirk Umfleet"" Subject: Did you complete this? 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    ",1 "Return-Path: ler@lerami.lerctr.org Delivery-Date: Tue Sep 10 13:57:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mx7.airmail.net from [209.196.77.104] by mail5.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.56) with esmtp for sender: id ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:53:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.black-ring.iadfw.net ([209.196.123.141] helo=mail.airmail.net) by mx7.airmail.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 17oq5b-0000uj-00 for ler@209.196.123.6; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:50:19 -0500 Received: from mx2.airmail.net from [209.196.77.99] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.56) with esmtp for sender: id ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:50:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tide.iadfw.net ([206.66.12.73]) by mx2.airmail.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17oq5U-000CMa-00 for ler@airmail.net; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:50:12 -0500 Received: from kfep01.dion.ne.jp (kfep01.dion.ne.jp [203.181.105.163]) by tide.iadfw.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8AIoAw33413 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:50:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from vip@99-81.com) Received: from access-w5961wae ([211.5.54.44]) by kfep01.dion.ne.jp with SMTP id <20020910185009556.VVSY@kfep01.dion.ne.jp> for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 03:50:09 +0900 To: ler@tide.iadfw.net X-Mailer: Easy DM free Message-ID: <20020910.1852410828@vip-99-81.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 03:52:42 +0900 From: Vip-mail Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTCQ+NUJ6OS05cCIoPF5HLiEqPVAycSQkJE45LT5sGyhC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Airmail-Delivered: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:54:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Airmail-Spooled: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:53:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Evolution-Source: imap://ler@mail.airmail.net:14343/ X-Status: X-Keywords: <$B;v6H $B;aL>(B:Vip-mail $BFMA3$N%a!<%k<:Ni$$$?$7$^$9!#(B $B:#8e$3$N9-9p$,$4ITMW$JJ}$O$=$N;]$r(B stop-vip@e-project-web.com $B$^$G$*Aw$j2<$5$$!#(B $B!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y(B $B""v%j%C%A$J=P2q$$$O(BVip-mail$B$G""v(B Vip-mail$B$,%O%$%/%i%9$J=P2q$$$r%W%l%<%s%H!y(B $B7HBS(B3$B%-%c%j%""$H(BPC$BBP1~$N=P2q$$%5%$%H""v(B $B:#$^$G$N=P2q$$%5%$%H$KK0$-$??M(B! $B=P2q$$$OM_$7$$$1$I%5%$%H$r;H$&$N$O$HLB$C$F$k?M(B! $B:#D>$0(BVip-mail$B$K(BGo!!!!! http://www.vip-jp.net/?sid=2 $B=w@-L5NA$OEv$?$jA0(B!? $BCK@-$K$O$*;n$7%]%$%s%H(B50pt$B%W%l%<%s%H!y(B $B=w@-$O%j%C%A$JCK@-$r(BGET$B$7$h$&(Bo($B!f""`!e(B)o $BCK@-$O$*;n$7%]%$%s%H5$$KF~$C$?L<$r8+$D$1$h$&(B($B""`!c(B)b $B=P2q$$$r5a$a$k$J$i(BVip-mail$B$K:#D>$0%""%/%;%9(B $B""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-""-(B http://www.vip-jp.net/?sid=2 $B!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y!z!y(B $BFMA3$N%a!<%k<:Ni$$$?$7$^$7$?!#(B $B:#8e$3$N9-9p$,$4ITMW$JJ}!""G[?.Dd;_$r4uK>$5$l$kJ}$O$=$N;]$r(B stop-vip@e-project-web.com $B$^$G$*Aw$j2<$5$$(B",1 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 9 16:04:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05369440E3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:59:53 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79Ebhb08662 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:37:43 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00514 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:39:12 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01408; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:37:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from wonka.esatclear.ie (wonka.esatclear.ie [194.145.128.5]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01373 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:37:25 +0100 Received: from debian (mpage@c-airlock159.esatclear.ie [194.145.132.159]) by wonka.esatclear.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10847 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:37:23 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: Mark Page To: ilug@linux.ie Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:36:54 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080820365405.00338@debian> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [ILUG] Gentoo Linux Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Has anybody on the list installed/used this distro? If so wouldn't mind a bit of help. Burnt the ISO's from the latest Linux Format magazine. Took a couple of attempts to install but got there. My problem - I have a standard dial-up modem and the installation gives you the network card setup so internet download is out of the question, but, I installed the Stage3 tarball which puts the .tgz files on your harddrive. So methinks, I have the software there and all I need to do is install so as 1) get the necessary programmes to connect to the net and 2) install any other programmes I might need. What actually happens is that if, for example, I attempt to install the KDE package, the system goes looking for any dependencies on the net despite the fact that the dependencies reside on my hard drive. Obviously I can't install anything. Have checked all docs on the web page and nothing deals with a standard dial-up modem or how to tell the package manager to look for the dependencies on the hard drive. Anybody able to help me here? Thanks in anticipation. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Sep 26 11:03:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A915716F17 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:03:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:03:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8Q81bC06474 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:01:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200209260801.g8Q81bC06474@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: scripting Subject: Medical notes Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:01:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/25#medicalNotes Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 12:49:48 GMT Mixed news from yesterday's heart checkup. First, I went seven minutes on the treadmill. That was pretty good. My heart was racing like it hadn't since I was in college. They also did an extensive ultrasound on my carotid arteries[1], they're in the neck and supply my head with blood. More good news there. They're clear, free of plaque, healthy, not diseased[2]. So it appears I just have coronary artery disease, not general artery disease. That's good because there would be a risk of stroke if they were sick, and not a whole lot they can do about it (as they can with the heart). Now there was some not-good news. A small part of my heart isn't working very well. There are a few possible reasons for that, some fixable, some not. I asked the doctor, does this mean I'm going to die sooner, and he said no. Does it mean I have to restrict what I do, he said no. So what does it mean? Really not much, other than I should watch, as before, for recurring symptoms, the ones that brought me into the hospital in June. If they come back, we'll do an angiogram, and maybe an angioplasty, but the likelihood of another bypass because of this is small. That's quite a relief. I don't like the idea of part of my heart not working, but what can you do about it? [1] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=carotid+arteries&spell=1 [2] http://www.vascularweb.org/doc/190",0 "From neugens@libero.it Fri Aug 23 11:04:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED4A44164 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 06:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:03:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MJiiZ22036 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:44:44 +0100 Received: from outgoing.securityfocus.com (outgoing2.securityfocus.com [66.38.151.26]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06503 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:44:51 +0100 Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [66.38.151.19]) by outgoing.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 3B4388F353; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Mailing-List: contact secprog-help@securityfocus.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list secprog@securityfocus.com Delivered-To: moderator for secprog@securityfocus.com Received: (qmail 10062 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 17:41:11 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" From: Mario Torre To: secprog@securityfocus.com Subject: Encryption approach to secure web applications Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:15:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200208222015.15926.neugens@libero.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dogma.slashnull.org id g7MJiiZ22036 Hi everybody! I'm writing a web application in java (tomcat + jsp/servlets + database access with postgreSQL). This will be released under the GPL and will eventually be useful as a framework for other web applications. The application main focus is e-commerce, but not limited to that. I would like to use some form of cryptography to protect data on the database, but I have some problem figuring out the right approach. Above all, how to store passwords and keys in a shared web server. A problem that I was unable to solve is how to store keys for encryption/decryption. The api that I'm using is the jca (jdk1.4.x), and the methods of saving generated keys in keystores fails always. I can serialize the object, and store in the database, but this is not the most secure approach: this key is needed to decrypt data in the database, but the database is accessible from the web application. Assuming that I can find a good and secure place where to store the database password, I can use a different database with different user... Argh... to complex and doesn't really solve the problem. Where I can found good documentation about this topic? There is another approach that I would share with the list, something I thought that can be of bit interest, but probabily wrong and insecure. After all, I'm a real beginner in secure programming, and I'm here to learn methods and technics. First of all, I need a secure way to keep database passwords secure, so I have to keep them separate from the main server. The right approach could be using a small java bean application that run as normal user (not tomcat, so it is not shared with other web services or, worst, the nobody user), that has no shell login, but has a default home directory or a place where it can hold passwords and keys. The web application could then open an ssl connection (could be done in the init method at server startup) to get database passwords. The small bean could check via code signature/rmi/whatever else that the source is the right one, and handle all the database connections, or give the db connection/password to the main web application. In this way, we solve the problem of keeping the keys and passwords in shared directories, and also, an attacker should get root/bean user account to read data. This is not perfect, and works only if your provider gives the opportunity to configure a separated java application (that means, really, another server running in the background). Any suggestions? Thank you, Mario Torre -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html",0 "From quinlan@pathname.com Fri Aug 23 11:33:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C5643F99 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 06:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:33:56 +0100 (IST) Received: from proton.pathname.com (adsl-216-103-211-240.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.211.240]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7NAVFZ20272 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:31:15 +0100 Received: from quinlan by proton.pathname.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17iBiq-0005K9-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:31:20 -0700 To: zzzz@spamassassin.taint.org, craig@deersoft.com Subject: FYI - gone this weekend Cc: quinlan@pathname.com Message-Id: From: Daniel Quinlan Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:31:20 -0700 I won't be reading email until Sunday night or so. Good luck with 2.40 and don't do anything I wouldn't do. ;-) - Dan",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Oct 4 11:07:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F97F16F1C for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:04:03 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:04:03 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93KOEK13766 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:24:14 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17xCVx-0000UX-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:24:05 -0700 Received: from relay07.indigo.ie ([194.125.133.231]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17xCV8-0004Tu-00 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:23:14 -0700 Received: (qmail 85140 messnum 1024118 invoked from network[194.125.173.131/ts13-131.dublin.indigo.ie]); 3 Oct 2002 20:23:11 -0000 Received: from ts13-131.dublin.indigo.ie (HELO spamassassin.taint.org) (194.125.173.131) by relay07.indigo.ie (qp 85140) with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 20:23:11 -0000 Received: by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id C3E6C16F03; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:23:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from spamassassin.taint.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0200F7B1; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:23:09 +0100 (IST) To: ""Malte S. Stretz"" Cc: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [SAtalk] 2.42: est release? In-Reply-To: Message from ""Malte S. Stretz"" of ""Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:31:49 +0200."" <200210022031.49748@malte.stretz.eu.org> From: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org (Justin Mason) X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 0A48 2D8B 0B52 A87D 0E8A 6ADD 4137 1B50 6E58 EF0A X-Habeas-Swe-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-Swe-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-Swe-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-Swe-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-Swe-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-Swe-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-Swe-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-Swe-9: mark in spam to . Message-Id: <20021003202309.C3E6C16F03@spamassassin.taint.org> Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:23:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:23:04 +0100 Malte S. Stretz said: > 1046 is fixed. But what about > 1011 (add a notice about IRIX and -m to the docs), > 1031 (cygwin's EXE_EXT), > 1043 (a cosmetic but rather disturbing one ;-), all now fixed! > 1004 (TO_MALFORMED borken), WONTFIX ;) > 1006 (packaging related)? eh, will leave this for 2.50. ;) OK, if there's nothing moderately serious shown up tonight, I'll release it tomorrow AM (GMT). --j. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Sep 10 11:07:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BD916F03 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:07:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:07:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8A9hXC25466 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:43:36 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D6F2940DF; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from venus.phpwebhosting.com (venus.phpwebhosting.com [64.29.16.27]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DE5529409A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13570 invoked by uid 508); 10 Sep 2002 08:25:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hydrogen.leitl.org) (217.80.40.110) by venus.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 08:25:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (eugen@localhost) by hydrogen.leitl.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8A57f100842; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:07:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: hydrogen.leitl.org: eugen owned process doing -bs From: Eugen Leitl To: Ned Jackson Lovely Cc: Subject: Re: The Big Jump In-Reply-To: <20020910004617.GB1045@ibu.internal.qu.to> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:07:41 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Ned Jackson Lovely wrote: > In '87 a guy named Gregory Robertson noticed a fellow parachutist Debbie > Williams had been knocked unconscious. He shifted so that he was head down, > hit about 200 mi/h, and caught up with her and pulled her chute with 10 seconds > to spare. IIRC it's ~180 km/s spreadeagled and ~210 km/h head-down.",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Mon Sep 30 13:37:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F0416F03 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:37:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:37:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8T81Kg03449 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:01:20 +0100 Message-Id: <200209290801.g8T81Kg03449@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: gamasutra Subject: Kanu at the double Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 08:01:20 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-0,8357898,215/ Date: 2002-09-29T00:39:56+01:00 *Football:* Kolo Toure was among the goals as Arsenal gave Leeds a good hiding at Elland Road.",0 "From bcbalbstr2@hotmail.com Mon Sep 2 16:27:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.spamassassin.taint.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15D64416F for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 16:26:22 +0100 (IST) Received: from seagull.cpinternet.com (mail.cpinternet.com [209.240.224.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7VC5HZ01049 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:05:17 +0100 Received: from bsa01.vac-bsa.org (mail.vac-bsa.org [209.240.238.223]) by seagull.cpinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7VASmWT006287; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 07:03:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hpbbse.bbn.hp.com (grains.nic.in [164.100.243.60]) by bsa01.vac-bsa.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Q6LNKPJP; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:23:08 -0500 Message-Id: <000029b40114$00004eac$000016c5@novomoskovsk.ru> To: , , , , , , Cc: , , , , , , From: bcbalbstr2@hotmail.com Subject: Fw: NORTON SYSTEMWORKS 2002 CLEARANCE SALE! 11058 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:18:21 -1600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: bcbalbstr2@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/html; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Norton AD
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    ",1 "From neugens@libero.it Fri Aug 23 11:06:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCE24415B for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 06:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:04:22 +0100 (IST) Received: from outgoing.securityfocus.com (outgoing3.securityfocus.com [66.38.151.27]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MM0XZ26628 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:00:33 +0100 Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [66.38.151.19]) by outgoing.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 86064A316F; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:50:00 -0600 (MDT) Mailing-List: contact secprog-help@securityfocus.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list secprog@securityfocus.com Delivered-To: moderator for secprog@securityfocus.com Received: (qmail 21232 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 21:14:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" From: Mario Torre To: secprog@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: Encryption approach to secure web applications Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:49:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <200208222015.15926.neugens@libero.it> <00da01c24a15$561376c0$0201a8c0@home1> In-Reply-To: <00da01c24a15$561376c0$0201a8c0@home1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200208222349.00463.neugens@libero.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dogma.slashnull.org id g7MM0XZ26628 Hi, Thank you for the useful replies, I have found some interesting tutorials in the ibm developer connection. https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec1 and https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec2 Registration is needed. I will post the same message on the Web Application Security list, as suggested by someone. For now, I thing I will use md5 for password checking (I will use the approach described in secure programmin fo linux and unix how-to). I will separate the authentication module, so I can change its implementation at anytime. Thank you again! Mario Torre -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html",0 "From social-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 2 16:32:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BCF44104 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:32:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Ekjn01518 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:46:45 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03192 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:18:11 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09918; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:17:23 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tcd.ie (relay.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.32.56]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09873 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:17:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host relay.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.32.56] claimed to be mail.cs.tcd.ie Received: from mail.cs.tcd.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.cs.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0047F5917 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:17:16 +0100 (IST) Received: from foleys.dsg.cs.tcd.ie (foleys.dsg.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.36.58]) by mail.cs.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30405F5952 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:17:15 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: [ILUG-Social] Re: [ILUG] Fwd: Linux Beer Hike From: Arkaitz Bitorika To: social@linux.ie In-Reply-To: <20020731123822.A14110@ie.suberic.net> References: <20020731114006.B11938@ie.suberic.net> <20020731123822.A14110@ie.suberic.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 02 Aug 2002 14:12:30 +0100 Message-Id: <1028293950.4603.6.camel@foleys> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: social-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: social-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group social events X-Beenthere: social@linux.ie On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 12:38, kevin lyda wrote: > and see, that would be my retort to any overly zealous irish speaker. > there's a huge opportunity for a fully irish computing environment in > free software. and yet i don't see much action from official irish > organisations. the reason mandrake and some others have the irish > support they have is because of individuals like donnacha. Just a note to say that the Basque government has payed for having Mandrake translated to Basque (and release all the changes), so that you can just install it and the desktop and apps can be in your language. I think that whichever organization (Irish government I suppose) is in charge of promoting Irish here could learn a lot from them. The Basque government used to pay MS for translating Windows, but they got pissed off because it was extremely expensive and the translations would come out when the software was already obsolete. Now they promote Free Software while helping the language at the same time, I think it's a win-win situation ;). cheers, Arkaitz -- Irish Linux Users' Group Social Events: social@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/social for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Jul 31 22:42:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946E440CD for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:42:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VLgS210416 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:42:29 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17a14c-0002wW-00; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:32:02 -0700 Received: from habanero.hesketh.net ([66.45.6.196]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17a13o-0005oI-00 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:31:12 -0700 Received: (from schampeo@localhost) by habanero.hesketh.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g6VLV5g20168 for razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:31:05 -0400 X-Received-From: schampeo X-Delivered-To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Originating-Ip: [] From: Steven Champeon To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Message-Id: <20020731173105.B19323@hesketh.com> Mail-Followup-To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: [Razor-users] can't call method ""log"" issue - solution Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:31:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:31:05 -0400 I see that Robert S. Wojciechowski Jr. posted about this issue on 7/26, but I don't see any responses. I get that error when calling razor-report from a sendmail alias, but not from the command line as a different user. The way I solved it was to run razor-admin -create and razor-admin -discover with a -home argument set to the global /etc/razor directory, which is explicitly specified in the args to the alias pipe. The manual page, which suggests that /etc/razor/razor-agent.conf will be loaded first, does not also say that razor-admin will then create a .razor directory in the user's home directory if it does not exist (although this /is/ pointed out in the razor-agents(1) page. This may lead to some minor confusion if the user is trying to set the discovery and other defaults for a default (e.g., /etc/razor) install. The workaround is as I say above, namely, explicitly specify the path to razorhome on the command line, e.g. razor-admin -home=/etc/razor -create razor-admin -home=/etc/razor -discover hth, Steve -- hesketh.com/inc. v: (919) 834-2552 f: (919) 834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Sep 25 10:23:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E071816F03 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:23:35 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:23:35 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8P80OC18100 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:00:24 +0100 Message-Id: <200209250800.g8P80OC18100@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: scripting Subject: Wired: ""An urgent business proposition and requests for urgent assistance f Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:00:24 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/24#When:4:10:18AM Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:10:18 GMT Wired[1]: ""An urgent business proposition and requests for urgent assistance from a so-called Nigerian official were heeded by a Detroit bank secretary in the latest example of how the ubiquitous e-mail scam actually works."" [1] http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,55329,00.html",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Wed Oct 2 11:44:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDC816F03 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:43:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:43:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92836K31829 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:03:06 +0100 Message-Id: <200210020803.g92836K31829@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: newscientist Subject: Viruses that also hack computers on the rise Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 08:03:06 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-2,8443955,1440/ Date: Not supplied A new internet worm marks a worrying crossover between virus writing and hacking, say experts",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Jul 31 18:33:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51354410D for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:33:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VHNN202887 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:23:23 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19229; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:21:22 +0100 Received: from mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19185 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:21:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254] claimed to be mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr Received: from mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.61) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D1838B6012EC005 for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:20:39 +0200 Received: from bolsh.wanadoo.fr (80.8.224.71) by mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D2A78FA00A4D937 for ilug@linux.ie; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:20:39 +0200 Received: from dave by bolsh.wanadoo.fr with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 17ZxE0-0006vU-00 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:25:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:25:27 +0200 From: David Neary To: ""ILUG (Request)"" Subject: Re: [ILUG] Re: C++ and C Mailing Lists for Beginners and Advanced Message-Id: <20020731192527.A14333@wanadoo.fr> References: <200207311043.g6VAhuq10699@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <20020731125129.B11532@wanadoo.fr> <3D481E58.55223704@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D481E58.55223704@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie SoloCDM wrote: > David Neary stated the following: > > Try the following newsgroups - Beginners: news:comp.lang.learn.c-c++ > > I tried news:comp.lang.learn.c-c++ and it wouldn't work. Is there a > typo? Yup. It's alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ Sorry about that. I've never used the group, so I can't vouch for it's usefulness. But a few people I respect a lot direct people there for beginner type stuff. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Marseille, France E-Mail: bolsh@gimp.org -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Jul 30 19:52:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46894440C8 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:52:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UIkl211868 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:46:47 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22472; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:44:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.19]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22441 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:44:51 +0100 Message-Id: <200207301844.TAA22441@lugh.tuatha.org> Received: (qmail 76762 messnum 6734 invoked from network[159.134.158.154/p154.as1.drogheda1.eircom.net]); 30 Jul 2002 18:44:20 -0000 Received: from p154.as1.drogheda1.eircom.net (HELO there) (159.134.158.154) by mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 76762) with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 18:44:20 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-15"" From: John Gay To: ilug@linux.ie Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:51:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [ILUG] RE: When is a WAV not a WAV? ANS: It is?!? Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Well, after playing around with these strange wav files I realised I didn't even have sox installed. A quick apt-get install sox fixed this. Sox does reconise these AND even plays them in stereo! Following info from the CD-Writing HOW-TO I used sox to convert the Sgt Pepper's wav to cdr and wrote it to CD and now I've got a CD with ONE track that is the entire Sgt Peppers Album! Not too sure how over 500M of cdr reduces to only 51M of wav file but there it is?!?! And I've got loads of Beatles Albums and singles in these strange wav files! KEWL! Now I don't need to go buying them! Cheers, John Gay -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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But > then it uses the PROM copy of the kernel (dodgy 2.2.16 > kernel), which doesn't know ext3, so wants to fsck up my disk. Boot prom on a cobalt? Is this an old mips based one? How did you get to it? -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Sun Oct 6 22:54:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DEE16F7A for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:53:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 06 Oct 2002 22:53:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9680ZK15233 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:00:35 +0100 Message-Id: <200210060800.g9680ZK15233@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: Bin Laden is still alive, reveals spy phone satellite Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 08:00:35 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-0,8597652,215/ Date: 2002-10-06T02:28:03+01:00 *World latest: *Osama bin Laden is alive and regularly meeting Mullah Omar, the fugitive leader of the Taliban, according to a telephone call intercepted by American spy satellites.",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Aug 12 11:07:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453A74415D for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:56:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7BIMnb09833 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:22:49 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03307; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:20:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from linuxmafia.com (linuxmafia.COM [198.144.195.186]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03285 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:20:20 +0100 Received: from rick by linuxmafia.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17dxK1-00063A-00 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:20:13 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:20:12 -0700 To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] SUSE 8 disks? (thread changed slightly) Message-Id: <20020811182012.GD25331@linuxmafia.com> References: <1029023717.2993.4.camel@gemini.windmill> <20020811134458.74257.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020811134458.74257.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: Rick Moen Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Quoting Paul Linehan (plinehan@yahoo.com): > Anyway, I should have initiated a new thread for my different request > about S.u.S.E. CDs. You'll probably want to buy a retail boxed set, e.g., via mail order. The only editions of SuSE for i386 that are lawful to duplicate and redistribute are as follows: SuSE Evaluation: This is a single-CD ISO9660 image, currently at v. 7.0. If you don't mind having only one disk's worth of SuSE, and being several revisions behind the boxed-set editions, this is quite good and recommended. SuSE Live Eval: Another CD image, currently at v. 8.0, but this one doesn't install to hard drives at all: It's a demo disk. SuSE FTP Edition (for lack of an official name): Not a CD image, but the contents of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/ . You would have to mirror the ftp directory tree, and then figure out how to install (e.g., over NFS). Currently at v. 8.0. There are three (non-redistributable) boxed-set editions, at different price points. I'm assuming in the above that you're talking about an i386-architecture computer. Slightly different answers apply for Alpha, IA64, SPARC, PPC, SPARC64, PPC64, or S390. -- Cheers, ""Teach a man to make fire, and he will be warm Rick Moen for a day. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm rick@linuxmafia.com for the rest of his life."" -- John A. Hrastar -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Tue Aug 20 11:51:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A7F43C38 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:51:36 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JLPZZ09998 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:25:35 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29957; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:24:29 +0100 Received: from hibernia.jakma.org (hibernia.clubi.ie [212.17.32.129]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29921 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:24:15 +0100 Received: from fogarty.jakma.org (fogarty.jakma.org [192.168.0.4]) by hibernia.jakma.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JLWCD01993; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:32:12 +0100 Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by fogarty.jakma.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JLWAX14622; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:32:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: fogarty.jakma.org: paul owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:32:09 +0100 (IST) From: Paul Jakma X-X-Sender: paul@fogarty.jakma.org To: Vincent Cunniffe Cc: ilug Subject: Re: [ILUG] linux pthreads problem In-Reply-To: <3D611AF5.7080703@cunniffe.net> Message-Id: X-Nsa: iraq saddam hammas hisballah rabin ayatollah korea vietnam revolt mustard gas X-Dumb-Filters: aryan marijuiana cocaine heroin hardcore cum pussy porn teen tit sex lesbian group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Vincent Cunniffe wrote: > The process list initially shows a single main process : > > 16877 1.0 0.2 1824 540 pts/1 S 17:14 0:00 ./heartbeat2 > > When the client runs, connects, and sleeps for 5 seconds : > > 16877 0.0 0.2 10024 604 pts/1 S 17:14 0:00 ./heartbeat2 > 16887 0.5 0.2 1796 720 pts/1 S 17:15 0:00 ./client > 16888 0.0 0.2 10024 604 pts/1 S 17:15 0:00 ./heartbeat2 > 16889 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/1 Z 17:15 0:00 [heartbeat2 > ] > > When the client exits, and the thread should finish, it doesn't : > > 16877 0.0 0.2 10024 604 pts/1 S 17:14 0:00 ./heartbeat2 > 16888 0.0 0.2 10024 604 pts/1 S 17:15 0:00 ./heartbeat2 > > This second thread never goes away, but no more threads accumulate, > and the total memory consumption rises by about 8-9MB every single > time a client connects. > > C++ bug, linux bug, pthreads bug, coding error? hmm... with pthreads there is always one thread which acts as a 'thread manager'. do the number of processes accumulate? or is it just that the # of threads is == # of threads you're expecting + 1? if the latter, ttbomk that is normal. ie, you dont create the thread until the accept() returns. so up until then its a normal programme (ie no thread manager). after that you will always have +1 processes (for the thread manager). also, the stack for further threads is allocated from the heap. (see sigaltstack() ) possibly glibc does not brk() back the space, just like malloc()/free() does not always release the space to the heap again (as most programmes will allocate memory / threads again soonish anyway). > Regards, > > Vin regards, -- Paul Jakma paul@clubi.ie paul@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam@dishone.st Fortune: The Official Colorado State Vegetable is now the ""state legislator"". -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 12 11:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B55444168 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:56:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7A0dub01964 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 01:39:59 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8512940DF; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6242940CF for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119ac86.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.49.6]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17dKEu-0007HO-00; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 20:36:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rahettinga@pop.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: To: ""Russell Turpin"" , fork@spamassassin.taint.org From: ""R. A. Hettinga"" Subject: Re: David Friedman: Mail Me the Money! Cc: Digital Bearer Settlement List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:57:44 -0400 At 6:21 PM +0000 on 8/9/02, Russell Turpin wrote: > Personally, > I wouldn't know where to hide the bodies. But if > the government didn't have this -- um, fussiness -- > about shooting vermin, the spam problem would > disappear rather quickly. ...which reminds me of my favorite David Friedman quote. See below... Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ""The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and great nations."" -- David Friedman, _The_Machinery_of_Freedom_ http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Sep 4 16:53:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F011016F20 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:52:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 04 Sep 2002 16:52:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84FLxZ07451 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:21:59 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17mbxo-00019X-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:21:04 -0700 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17mbxL-0002od-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:20:35 -0700 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mbvd-00087j-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:18:49 +0200 To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mbvb-00087W-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:18:47 +0200 Path: not-for-mail From: ""Adrian Hill"" Message-Id: References: <20020904185631.55728f6b.lars@unet.net.ph> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.50.185.99 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031152726 31216 212.50.185.99 (4 Sep 2002 15:18:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:18:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [SAtalk] Re: Custom actions for high scoring spam Sender: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talk about SpamAssassin List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:20:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:20:25 +0100 Thank you Lars for your reply to my query. > SA doesnt do any of these. It is probably a function of whatever scanning system/MDA > you're using (amavis, procmail, whatever). What exactly are you using? I am using SpamAssassin as part of the MailScanner package (using sendmail as the MTA). It integrates nicely in there, and shares a configuration file with SA. All very neat. > SA in itself does nothing really. You need a frontend (procmail, amavis, etc) > at some point in the mail delivery chain that can hand over the message > to SA and do whatever other processing you want. I thought that SA rated a message with a certain score, then did a certain action (such as store | deliver | delete) based on the configuration given. I was hoping there were some other actions that I could custom-program in. Again, many thanks, Adrian ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? 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Williams"" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0rc2) Gecko/20020512 Netscape/7.0b1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: ""Mr. FoRK"" , fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: SunMSapple meta4 of the day References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 21:35:28 -0400 Clearly, it is US/NATO = Sun/IBM/OSS, USSR = MS ""Where we want you to go in our 5 year plan?"" sdw Tom wrote: >Im feeling a bit farklempt having spent the night at Todais with the >family so talk amongst yourself..here Ill give you a topic > >The current state of IT can be thought of in terms of the Cold war with >the US and the UUSR being MS and Sun/IBM/OSS (does it matter which side >is which?), Apple as Cuba and the US legal system as the UN. > >Discuss. > > -- sdw@lig.net http://sdw.st Stephen D. 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I started coding with C, then C++, and >moved on to Java... And, I think that: Looks like a case of ""MY experience is comprehensive, YOUR'S is anecdotal, THEY don't know what they're talking about"". >1. The people who pay the wages don't give a flyin' heck what programming >language you write things in... they just want it to work. In my experience, they do care. It has to work certainly, and in particular it has to work with what they've already got, and it has to work on client's systems. My limited experience of Java started a few years ago when support on Linux was so terrible that I ran away screaming and haven't come back yet. Microsoft has announced that they plan to remove Java from Windows. They took it out of XP already and it has to be installed with a service pack. Somehow, I can't imagine them removing the ability to run C programs. >2. C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory >management over and over again. Can't say I spend any noticeable amount of time on memory management issues, apart from the fact that I frequently need > 4 GB. >It's about design patterns, architecture, high level stuff... If your problem just requires application of a ""design pattern"" to solve, then it's trivial anyway irrespective of language. >I am amazed by the amount of time wasted by people talking about low >level problems that have been solved 10 million times over and over >and over again... You appear to be gratuitously asserting that C programmers waste time on irrelevant low-level problems and Java programmers don't. Depends entirely on the programmer, not the language. >3. Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform... Buzzword. >a monolithic set of API's or a crap load of different API's slicing >and dicing the same problems 50 different ways? Unsupported assertion. >4. If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you >can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within >the same magnitude of cost as Java.... Dunno. E.g., I ported a wee 15000-line C program to Darwin on PowerPC in a few minutes yesterday. Sure if it was badly designed it would be 10 times the size and harder to port. If it depended on unavailable libraries it would be much harder. Portable code is easy to port. At least that is the case when then language you used is available on the target platform: I also run on ARM systems with no proper Java. >5. Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a >person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the >individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is >to reverse engineer C (large applications). You can pay a good programmer to solve your problem now, or else get some kids to hack spaghetti Fortran in any language and then pay for maintenance headaches ad infinitum. >6. Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance >difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more. Whoah!!! Performance matters to me every day. (Right now I'm taking time out to write email while waiting for a job to run). Sure I could wait 5 years until everyone's PC is fast enough to generate random EC's in no time, when any twit will be able to program inefficient code that is fast enough and the market will be overrun by competitors, or I can do it now when very few people can. >The end goal is the scientific or business problem to be solved. Yes. >And for those problems, languages such as Java, SmallTalk, and others >allow you to think more high level than low level. Thinking of bits >and bytes takes too much gray matter away from the real important >problems.... It's true! I admit everything! Mea maxima culpa! Working in C makes me spend all day thinking base, rank thoughts about hard-core bitography! Not. Actually I spend most of my time thinking in high-level mathematics. >Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same problems >over and over again [...] Dunno, and frankly I don't see the relevance to the issue at hand. I'm sure Java is fine for some stuff, as is C or whatever. Horses for courses. Bye, Rob. .-. .-. / \ .-. .-. / \ / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ \ / `-' `-' \ / `-' `-'",0 "From quinlan@pathname.com Tue Sep 17 23:30:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF15F16F03 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:30:37 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:30:38 +0100 (IST) Received: from proton.pathname.com (adsl-216-103-211-240.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.211.240]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8HKVLC25673 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:31:21 +0100 Received: from quinlan by proton.pathname.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17rP0f-0004fo-00; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:31:49 -0700 To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org (Justin Mason) Cc: spamassassin-devel@example.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin and unconfirmed.dsbl.org References: <20020917142054.5C4E916F16@spamassassin.taint.org> From: Daniel Quinlan Date: 17 Sep 2002 13:31:49 -0700 In-Reply-To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org's message of ""Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:20:49 +0100"" Message-Id: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes: > Folks who've been hacking on the DNSBLs: would it be worthwhile commenting > this in HEAD, seeing as it only gets .77 anyway? > > Sounds like the (a) broken server and (b) low hitrate combine to make it > not-so-useful IMO. No, in my opinion, it's purely a bug in SA (or the libraries we use, which is the same thing) that we don't handle outages of network services better. The rule is useful and it does help reduce spam, we should keep it. I have a feeling the DNSBL rules will cluster a bit more heavily around the 1.0 to 2.0 range once we start using the new GA on them. Also, 0.77 was a slightly conservative number. Since I didn't have real-time data, I typically used the lower or median number of different periods (most recent month, two months, six months), depending on the trend of the period data (better performance for recent messages -> favor recent scores, worse performance for recent messages -> favor lowest scores, never pick the highest number unless the rule was very accurate and the highest number was for the most recent data). 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Not a deb-head, but I also have a problem regards NVidia. I've two machines, pretty much the same hardware. athlon 1700XP's, both have NVidia cards, one Gforce3 Ti and a Gforce2MX, both use the same driver module. Both have same kernel version albeit it compiled for their particular hardware. One works perfectly, the other fails to load. When I check with lsmod, I can see the NVdriver is loaded, but not used ;--( Thus when I startx, it bombs out. IU still have X with the default nv driver and crappy accelleration --> 650fps with glxgears [should be over 2000fps] Its not a hardware issue with the cards as I swapped them over and get the same symptoms. I reckon my mobo is cack, I've tried swapping slots around, reserving resources etc all to no avail. Should there be an interrupt for the nv card? I haven't checked the other box yet. Regards, CW ------------------- On Tue, 03 Dec 2002, Mark Page wrote: > Was running Debian Woody perfectly well until I installed the NVIDIA 3D > tar packages. You probably stil are ;) > Both the kernel and GLX packages installed with no problem and I then > amended the XFree config file appropriately (according to all > instructions). Neither GDM nor KDM will now fire up returning me to the > console screen. ie X is broken. > Running startx I isolated the problem to a failure to load the nvidia > kernel module - By cd'ing to the kernel module file and re-running 'make > install' I can get a workable xserver so you fixed X. > minus the preferences you would get from either gdm or kdm and to be > honest the GUI is horrible. If X is working and you get a brief Nvidia splash screen then this is likely nothing to do with the driver itself. You should be able to use kdm or gdm with the nvidia Xserver. What exactly did you change in your XF86Config? Will gdm/kdm not start? > I followed the nvidia suggestion of 'make install > SYSINCLUDE=/path/to/kernel/headers' and whilst this appears to install > ok upon reboot I am back to the same console login and having to go > through the same reinstall of the kernel module. I have tried rewriting > the XF config file to it's original state with no success. Well, this sounds like the NVIDIA kernel module isn't loading on boot. When it *is* working do a quick /sbin/lsmod and look for the module name (something like 'NVDriver'). Then put this on a new line in /etc/modules in order that linux will load it on boot. You can just do modprobe nvdriver to load it by hand. Your make install did this as well as reinstalling the driver in /lib etc. You should also get a message saying loading the nvidia driver taints your kernel (which it does, in the sense that it's not open source). > Is this a problem anyone else has encountered and what is the best > solution? Can I rid myself of the tar file installations and find some > specific .deb packages? The nvidia driver source is in the Woody tree. http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/nvidia-kernel-src.html so you can do apt-get install nvidia-kernel-src and then compile, although I've always gone the route you're doing now. Ideally the nvidia driver would be a part of the kernel from day 1. However, nvidia have not open sourced it (most of the above source is pre-compiled object code), but in order for it to work with your specific kernel you must compile against your kernel headers (as you did). As debian has lots of potential kernels they can't have one nvdriver package and have chosen instead to provide the source. Actually I don't know if they're permitted to distribute binaries by nvidia's license anyway. Gavin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. 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Looney wrote: > I've found a decrepit raq3 that I'm going to resurrect, as soon as I work > out what's up with the console. > > I'm using 115200 8n1 with minicom, and I'm getting wierd stuff like: Should it be 38K4 - a fairly common baudrate for serial port connections? Though if you are getting this much, the baudrate may be right. It looks like high ASCII so it may also be worth playing with the tty type (ANSI/VT etc). > So it looks like some sort of setting mismatch. Various places on the web > say that cobalts are setup with 115200 8n1 serial ports, but someone could > have changed it on this particular box. Regards...jmcc -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From spamassassin-sightings-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Jul 19 18:21:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56546440C9 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:21:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JHK4J18232 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:20:04 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17VbQB-0004pl-00; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:20:03 -0700 Received: from consort.superb.net ([209.61.216.22] helo=f7.net) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17VbPG-0001Vp-00 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:19:06 -0700 Received: (from spamassassin@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6JHJ0b05323 for spamassassin-sightings@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:19:00 -0400 Received: from edamame.c9m.tv (w077.z064003084.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.3.84.77]) by f7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6JHIuA05312 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:18:56 -0400 Received: (from cham@localhost) by edamame.c9m.tv (8.11.6/8.8.7) id g6JDg7M23763 for matthew.simonton@blade.net; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:42:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200207191342.g6JDg7M23763@edamame.c9m.tv> To: matthew.simonton@blade.net From: ""S. B. Woo"" Subject: [SA] EM1- Aren't we accorded equal opportunity already? Sender: spamassassin-sightings-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: spamassassin-sightings-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: spamassassin-sightings@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:42:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:42:07 -0400 AWL version=2.40 Aren't Asian Pacfic Americans (APAs) accorded equal opportunity already? Unfortunately, no. APAs are not accorded equal opportunity in workplaces presently. Equal opportunity means: ""For every man, woman and child to go as far and rise as high as their ambition and ability will take them."" Statistics, mostly gathered by government studies, show that AAs have only 1/3 the opportunity of all other Americans to rise to the top in the academic world, corporate world, the federal government. There seems to exist an invisible resistance to AAs' developing to the maximal of their potentials -- A Glass Ceiling. Let's look at a concrete case. A lot of our best people are employed in universities. Their average performance has been outstanding. What's their chance of rising to the top? University administrators are recruited almost exclusively from the ranks of faculty and professionals already employed in universities. Hence the ratio of [administrators / (faculty + professionals)], broken down to races, is a measure of the opportunity enjoyed by American citizens of different races. Nationwide, that ratio for blacks (non-Hispanic) is 0.21. That is, for every 100 black faculty and professionals there are 21 black administrators. The ratio for Native American is 0.20; for white (non-Hispanic) is 0.16; and for Hispanic is 0.15. However, it is only 0.06 for Asian American. Get on the Web and check it out for yourself! Source: Dept. of Education - , Table B-1f. The above dismal picture emerges from the supposedly ""enlightened"" academic world. The situation in the corporate world, state and federal governments is worse. In E-Mail 2 & 3, we present a strategy to induce the two major political parties to help us fight for equal opportunity and help make our beloved nation ""a more perfect Union."" There has already been progress on account of that strategy. Behold how the glass ceiling in the federal government is being shattered, owing significantly to the bloc-vote organized and delivered by 80-20 in the 2000 election. Sincerely (members of Steering Comm., titles for ID purposes only) Rajen Anand, Secretary, Federation of Indian-Am. Assocs., Tong S. Chung, Founding President & Current Chairman of the Board, Korean American Coalition, DC chapter, Alex Esclamado, Nat'l President, Filipino-Am. Political Assoc., Kenneth Fong, C.E.O., Clontech Laboratories, Yu-Chi Ho, Harvard Univ., member of Nat'l Acad. of Engineering, Stephen S. Ko, MD, Founder of Asian Am. Political Coalition N.J., Tony Lam, Councilman, Westminster, Los Angeles, California, Michael Lin, former Nat'l President, Org. of Ch-Ams (1994-98), Adeel Shah, Co-founder & Chairman/CEO of Telnia Corporation and President, US-Pakistan Business Council Washington, D.C., Peter Suzuki, Immediate Past President, National Asian/Pacific Am. Bar Association (NAPABA), Henry Tang, Chair, Committee of 100, Shaie-Mei Temple, Founding President, OCA-women New Orleans Chapter; Strategic Consultant, Chang-Lin Tien, Chancellor, Univ. of Calif., Berkeley (1990-97), Chun Wa Wong, Univ. of Calif., Los Angeles, Fellow, Am. phys. Soc., S. B. Woo, Lieutenant Governor of Delaware (1985-89) Jenny Yang, President, Assoc. of Chinese Am. Professionals; Co-founder, Houston 80-20 * * * * * * * * * * * 80-20 is a national, nonpartisan, Political Action Committee dedicated to winning equal opportunity and justice for all Asian Pacific Americans through a SWING bloc vote, ideally directing 80% of our community's votes and money to the presidential candidate endorsed by the 80-20, who better represents the interests of all APAs. Hence, the name ""80-20"" was created. -- For unsubscribing, return this email AND add the word:REMOVE. -- -- To get on 80-20's supporters list, reply with the word:ENLIST. -- MsTo: matthew.simonton@blade.net ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-Sightings mailing list Spamassassin-Sightings@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-sightings",1 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Aug 1 18:43:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88982440F3 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:43:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g71Hfj224525 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:41:47 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E242F2940EF; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-mx2.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.35]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247542940A9 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Tycho (dhcp-63-177.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.63.177]) by cats.ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id g71HcK017409 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:38:21 -0700 (PDT) From: ""Jim Whitehead"" To: ""FoRK"" Subject: Tablet PC Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-Ucsc-Cats-Mailscanner: Found to be clean Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:36:32 -0700 Last week I had a chance to see some TabletPC's demonstrated, and I was very impressed. * Handwriting recognition was good, as was the ability to parse text from diagrammatic or graphic elements. * TabletPC form factors, while not perfect, are quite usable (light, relatively thin, some can convert from laptop to tablet use by flipping the screen). * Pushbutton switching between portrait and landscape screen orientation. * TabletPCs I saw came with built-in WiFi. * Good to very good integration of handwriting into existing applications, and there is a very nice new note-taking application specifically for handwritten notes. * Good set of APIs for adding handwriting into existing applications (at the most simple, it's only a few additional lines of code) * Prices of the hardware will be around mid-range laptop (will vary by model) I believe the TabletPC will be very successful, and is a much bigger deal than the relative lack of press coverage would suggest. I'm definitely starting to think about how I could incorporate one into my routine... - Jim http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Jul 24 05:34:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5AC440CD for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 05:34:02 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6O4Yt420289 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 05:34:55 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17XDfz-0007hz-00; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:23:03 -0700 Received: from h-66-134-120-173.lsanca54.covad.net ([66.134.120.173] helo=stealthgeeks.net) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17XDf4-0002en-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:22:06 -0700 Received: (qmail 98578 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Jul 2002 04:21:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2002 04:21:58 -0000 From: Patrick To: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20020711084825.W60740-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> Message-Id: <20020723211828.Y98572-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Razor-users] Authentication Error Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Today's error(received multiple times) was: Jul 23 21:16:39.288680 report[98557]: [ 2] Razor-Agents v2.12 starting razor-report ./jobspam Jul 23 21:16:46.597147 report[98558]: [ 1] razor-report error: reportit: Error 213 while authenticating, aborting. I really like the concept of Razor but I find myself wondering if it's really a good idea for the developers to be passing off what appears to be alpha-quality software as production-ready.... /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong answers \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Thu Oct 3 12:25:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C9D16F7B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:24:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:24:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9381vK20008 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:01:57 +0100 Message-Id: <200210030801.g9381vK20008@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: guardian Subject: Iraq invasion a 'hair-trigger' away Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:01:57 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/215,0,215/ Date: 2002-10-03T04:21:07+01:00 Washington has revealed its intention to use UN weapons inspections as a possible first step towards a military occupation of Iraq.",0 "Return-Path: neale@woozle.org Delivery-Date: Wed Sep 11 08:10:29 2002 From: neale@woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: 11 Sep 2002 00:10:29 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] stack.pop() ate my multipart message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So then, Neale Pickett is all like: > Maybe there's some subtle interaction between generators and lists > that I can't understand. Or something. Being as I'm baffled, I don't > imagine any theory I come up with will be anywhere close to reality. And then, just as I was about to fall asleep, I figured it out. The tokenizer now has an extra [:], and all is well. I feel like a real chawbacon for not realizing this earlier. :*) Blaming it on staying up past bedtime, Neale",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Aug 20 23:38:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B519D43C32 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:38:15 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7KMZTZ27238 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:35:32 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15452940AF; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from axiom.braindust.com (axiom.braindust.com [64.69.71.79]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1F3294099 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (muses.westel.com [204.244.110.7]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by axiom.braindust.com (8.12.5/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7KMYZeH012169 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:34:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: The Curse of India's Socialism From: Ian Andrew Bell To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:34:18 -0700 I think that this and other articles confuse Socialism with Bureaucracy. Libertarianism as implemented in North America is not exactly the shining pinnacle of economic efficiency. Just try starting a telephone company in the US or (even worse) Canada. It can take a year or more to get the blessing of our own ""Permit Rajs"" at the FCC, PUC, and PTTs (or, in the decidedly more socialist leaning Canada, Industry Canada and the CRTC). Yet, despite all of this intense regulation and paper pushing, as well as regulatory scrutiny by the FTC, SEC, and IRS, the executives of Telecom Companies have managed to bilk the investment community for what looks to be tens of billions of dollars. They finished their routine with the a quadruple lutz -- laying off hundreds of thousands of workers when it all came crashing down. So.. tell me again.. how are we better off? -Ian. On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 12:09 PM, John Hall wrote: The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else -- by Hernando De Soto Is something I'm reading now. My impression is that France is not anywhere near the ""Permit Raj"" nightmare that India is (and became). Nor has its market been closed like India's has. But De Soto's work is perhaps just as important or more so. He hasn't dealt specifically with India, but I recall examples from Peru, Philippines, and Egypt. In Lima, his team took over a year (I think it was 2) working 8 hr days to legally register a 1 person company. In the Philippines, getting legal title can take 20 years. In Egypt, about 80% of the population in Cairo lives in places where they are officially illegal. India hasn't been helped by its socialism. Socialism has certainly helped strangle the country in permits. But perhaps De Soto is right that the real crippling thing is keeping most of the people out of the legal, official property system. Putting most of the people in the property system was something the west only finished about 100 years ago, or Japan did 50 years ago. It wasn't easy, but we live in a society that doesn't even remember we did it. -----Original Message----- From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of Robert Harley Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:24 AM To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: The Curse of India's Socialism RAH quoted: Indians are not poor because there are too many of them; they are poor because there are too many regulations and too much government intervention -- even today, a decade after reforms were begun. India's greatest problems arise from a political culture guided by socialist instincts on the one hand and an imbedded legal obligation on the other hand. Nice theory and all, but s/India/France/g and the statements hold just as true, yet France is #12 in the UN's HDI ranking, not #124. Since all parties must stand for socialism, no party espouses classical liberalism I'm not convinced that that classical liberalism is a good solution for countries in real difficulty. See Joseph Stiglitz (Nobel for Economics) on the FMI's failed remedies. Of course googling on ""Stiglitz FMI"" only brings up links in Spanish and French. I guess that variety of spin is non grata in many anglo circles. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Thu Aug 8 14:11:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0617A44135 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:32:33 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g78CGD201928 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:16:13 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29489 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:32:38 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09223; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:21 +0100 Received: from homer.jinny.ie ([193.120.171.3]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09179 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:07 +0100 Received: from jlooney.jinny.ie (fw [193.120.171.2]) by homer.jinny.ie (8.9.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id LAA19989 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:30:36 +0100 Received: (from john@localhost) by jlooney.jinny.ie (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g78AV2K02355 for ilug@linux.ie; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: jlooney.jinny.ie: john set sender to jlooney@jinny.ie using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:01 +0100 From: ""John P. Looney"" To: ilug@linux.ie Message-Id: <20020808103101.GA1853@jinny.ie> Reply-To: valen@tuatha.org Mail-Followup-To: ilug@linux.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Url: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen X-Os: Red Hat Linux 7.3/Linux 2.4.18-3 X-Gnupg-Publickey: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen/public.asc Subject: [ILUG] Cobalt question Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Try this little problem on for size: I've installed Redhat 7.3 on a raq3's disk. But fscked if I can get the kernel in /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 to boot. It's insisting pulling the kernel from ... somewhere else. The old cobalt kernel. I've booted the disk with a redhat rescue CD, and installed grub on the MBR and hda1 & hda2 (just in case). No luck. The cobalt BIOS says ""Booting default method - From disk"". Any ideas how I can get this thing to boot *my* kernel ? Anyone care to guess how the cobalt boot process ? Google seems very quiet on the subject of the cobalt boot process, and what is there doesn't seem to work. Simple stuff like: (how to boot a different kernel) http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-developers/1999-December/022014.html And, on boot: Cobalt:Main Menu> bfd /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 First stage kernel: Decompressing - done Second stage kernel: Decompressing - done Linux version 2.2.16C28 (konkers@unicron.cobalt.com) Note the descrepancy between what I want to boot, and actually booted. Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From pudge@perl.org Tue Jul 23 03:04:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CD5440C9 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 23 Jul 2002 03:04:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from cpu59.osdn.com (slashdot.org [64.28.67.73] (may be forged)) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6N21P419292 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 03:01:25 +0100 Received: from [10.2.181.14] (helo=perl.org) by cpu59.osdn.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Wosk-0006Jx-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:54:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:00:30 +0000 From: pudge@perl.org Subject: [use Perl] Stories for 2002-07-23 To: yyyy-use-perl@spamassassin.taint.org Precedence: list X-Bulkmail: 2.051 Message-Id: use Perl Daily Newsletter In this issue: * This week on perl5-porters (15-21 July 2002) * LAN Party at OSCON +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This week on perl5-porters (15-21 July 2002) | | posted by rafael on Monday July 22, @03:21 (summaries) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/22/0725254 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ OK, you know already the big news of the week, don't you ? This report will tell you what happened behind the scenes of the 5.8.0 final releasing. This story continues at: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/22/0725254 Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/07/22/0725254 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | LAN Party at OSCON | | posted by ziggy on Monday July 22, @13:06 (events) | | http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/22/179214 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ [0]cwest writes ""At [1]O'Reilly [2]Open Source Convention, [3]Aaronsen Group Ltd, [4]DynDNS, and [5]Stonehenge Consulting are hosting a great party. 15 gaming class computers will be networked together as the base of a killer [6]Quake 3 Arena fragging. The bar will be open for your drinking pleasure. The party is open to all OSCON attendees and participants. Come rub elbows with the best programmers on earth and simultaneously destroy them in Quake."" The [7]LAN Party will be held on Thursday, 8pm - ??, at Quinn's bar (main lobby, Sheraton East Tower at the conference). Discuss this story at: http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/07/22/179214 Links: 0. http://www.dyndns.org/lanparty 1. http://oreilly.com/ 2. http://conferences.oreilly.com/os2002 3. http://www.aaronsen.com/ 4. http://www.dyndns.org/ 5. http://www.stonehenge.com/ 6. http://www.quake3arena.com/games/quake/quake3-arena/ 7. http://www.dyndns.org/lanparty/ Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved. ====================================================================== You have received this message because you subscribed to it on use Perl. To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Aug 9 16:07:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D671440E7 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 16:01:11 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79EYEb08096 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:34:15 +0100 Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01353 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:35:37 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2550E2940F7; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537EF2940EE for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id 235543ED5F; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B613ECE7; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: ""Adam L. Beberg"" Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: Perhaps Apple isn't as user-friendly as we thought... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:21:16 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Adam L. Beberg wrote: --]Yea, Apple sucks, my crappy iMac hasn't crashed once in 2 years. When all you do on it is pout on emaillists and watch asain bukaky porn wheres the strain? Striken as anecdotal...oh and I had a win98 box running wsmf server stuffs (apache, dbs, shoutcast etc) up on dsl without so much as a hicup for over 1.5 years other than the various game realted hijinks tribes would pull. So if its raw uptime ou want,....tools and craftsman time. 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You learn something new every day! This would make things >> quite a bit easier. I assume it can handle a mailbox full of mail to >> report rather than a single piece of spam from STDIN. I'll check the >> docs on that though. > >Unfortunately not, it's a one at a time thing. If it would help >you, I have a script that I use which handles a mbox file at a time, >strips the SA stuff, reports to razor, and can then do things like >open relay checks, reports to spamcop, etc. It's available via: >http://www.kluge.net/~felicity/random/handlespam.txt I'll give that a looksie. I've been running a week's worth of maillog relay= IPs through rbcheck every Sunday. Found quite a few. I should break up the list and run multiple rbcheck instances. Just haven't gotten there yet though. I think I'll have either MIMEDefang or Procmail keep a copy of messages over a certain score for daily razor-reporting. I could just let SA do it too I suppose. Say, maybe you can tell me what I'm doing wrong in SA. I added report_header 1 to my /etc/mail/mimedefang/spamassassin/sa-mimedefang.cf but it didn't appear to change anything. I bounced over another copy of spam to my spamtrap and it still created the SPAM: attachment. sa-mimedefang.cf has this in it now: required_hits 1 auto_report_threshold 100 ok_locales en rewrite_subject 0 report_header 1 use_terse_report 1 defang_mime 0 skip_rbl_checks 1 I can't figure out if that was the write cf to modify or not. I also have a /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf but it's empty. I think I might be taking too many bites out of too many pies at once. :-) The required_hits changes I made to sa-mimedefang.cf seem to have worked. I don't know why the report_header change didn't though. Any ideas? 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Aug 19 11:06:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935E144105 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:56:03 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7J8aV614632 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:36:34 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530902940A0; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from venus.phpwebhosting.com (venus.phpwebhosting.com [64.29.16.27]) by xent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3072B29409D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20426 invoked by uid 508); 19 Aug 2002 08:34:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hydrogen.leitl.org) (62.155.144.61) by venus.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2002 08:34:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (eugen@localhost) by hydrogen.leitl.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7J8YMf16772; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:34:22 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: hydrogen.leitl.org: eugen owned process doing -bs From: Eugen Leitl To: Rob Shavell Cc: Subject: Re: sprint delivers the next big thing?? In-Reply-To: <00ce01c2474b$b1daeff0$6765010a@einstein> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:34:21 +0200 (CEST) On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Rob Shavell wrote: > down in the tech world than mobile visual communications.. and yet no one > seems to give much of a damn that right now that 2 persons can take photos > and share them instantly across space. this is one of the biggest - and The word ""trivial"" comes to mind. > last - fundamental changes in human communications. will be as big as the > browser. Remote realtime streaming video is neat, but sharing pictures? You invoke big words rather readily. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From rpm-list-admin@freshrpms.net Thu Sep 5 11:46:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08D916F1E for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:45:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 05 Sep 2002 11:45:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from egwn.net (ns2.egwn.net [193.172.5.4]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85AcKZ15026 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:38:20 +0100 Received: from auth02.nl.egwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g85AY1J22104; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:34:01 +0200 Received: from bonzo.nirvana (pD9E7E2B4.dip.t-dialin.net [217.231.226.180]) by egwn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/EGWN) with ESMTP id g85AX4J12145 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:33:04 +0200 From: Axel Thimm To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net Subject: Re: apt and a hybrid system Message-Id: <20020905123258.A9886@bonzo.nirvana> References: <20020905.RoT.47903400@www.dudex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020905.RoT.47903400@www.dudex.net>; from angles@aminvestments.com on Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:11:23AM +0000 X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:32:58 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:32:58 +0200 On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:11:23AM +0000, Angles Puglisi wrote: > If I can use apt, can I use it to get updates from these 3 different places: > 1. the (null) up2date Redhat upgrades > 2. the (null) files at Freshrpms.net > 3. the regular RH7.3 files from freshrpms.net You could build your own apt-repository. Just mirror the needed directories (e.g. by using a wget cron job), symlink the needed rpms and recreate the repository. It is already worth the trouble, if you have more than one installation. 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A. Hettinga"" Subject: Re: The 3rd Annual Consult Hyperion Digital Identity Forum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:13:32 -0400 --- begin forwarded text To: rah@shipwright.com From: hacker@vudu.net Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 06:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The 3rd Annual Consult Hyperion Digital Identity Forum The guy messed up his own URL. It should be http://www.digitalidforum.com which redirects to http://www.consult.hyperion.co.uk/digid3.html ""R. A. Hettinga"" wrote: > > Dear All, > > See www.digitalidentityforum.com for more details. Speakers include > Microsoft and Liberty Alliance, UK central and local government, > law > enforcement, financial services (Egg and RBS/NatWest), EC Research > Centre, a > psychologist and others. Look forward to seeing you there. > > Regards, > Dave Birch. > > -- > -- David Birch, Director, Consult Hyperion > -- > -- tel +44 (0)1483 301793, fax +44 (0)1483 561657 > -- mail dave@chyp.com, web http://www.chyp.com > -- > -- See you at the 2nd Annual Digital Transactions Forum in > Singapore > -- October 16th/17th 2002, see > http://www.digitaltransactionsforum.com/ > > --- end forwarded text > > > -- > ----------------- > R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> > The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>; > 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and > antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman > Empire' > > For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a > message to > "dcsb-request@reservoir.com" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ""... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience."" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Jul 25 11:08:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34387440DA for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:08:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6OL0H407368 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:00:17 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDED294157; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8762294156 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id C5D693ED52; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C475F3EC45; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:55:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: Luis Villa Cc: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: RE: USA USA WE ARE NUMBER ....six. In-Reply-To: <1027536843.3463.79.camel@10-0-0-223.boston.ximian.com> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:55:03 -0400 (EDT) On 24 Jul 2002, Luis Villa wrote: --]The report, apparently, makes that point as well. Tom seems to have --]taken things a slight bit out of context. :) I was simply posting, I did nto even comment of the fsking thing. So back the F off biotches. Jezz, add too much and they jump on you , dont add anything but your name and they fill in thier own versions....Two fingers in the air. I LOVE YOU ALL. -tom http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Jul 22 18:12:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29B2440C8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:12:24 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFIS903037 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:18:28 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31189 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:44:53 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19571; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:44:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from mail1.mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19546 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:44:14 +0100 Received: from dialup152-a.ts551.cwt.esat.net ([193.203.140.152] helo=Hobbiton.cod.ie) by mail1.mail.iol.ie with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17WZce-0002cR-00 for ilug@linux.ie; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:36:56 +0100 Received: (from cdaly@localhost) by Hobbiton.cod.ie (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g6LMJuB26227 for ilug@linux.ie; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:19:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:19:53 +0100 From: Conor Daly To: ilug@linux.ie Subject: Re: [ILUG] When is a wav not a wav? Message-Id: <20020721231953.D22357@Hobbiton.cod.ie> Mail-Followup-To: ilug@linux.ie References: <200207202147.WAA03958@lugh.tuatha.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200207202147.WAA03958@lugh.tuatha.org>; from johngay@eircom.net on Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 08:48:30PM +0100 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 08:48:30PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, John Gay thought: > > xanim can, and does play them correctly though. Unfortunately xanim does not > have any position control so you just have to listen to the album from start > to finish. > > What I would like to do is split up the tracks and convert them the mp3 for > xmms. I'm jsut not sure what tools would be able to handle these strange > compressed wav's that only xanim seems to recognise? I like the albums, but No idea if it can do these ones but mxv (or MixViews) has lots of configurables and it's whole purpose is to edit wavs. I've used it to split up tapes into individual songs. Not sure of a URL but the author is at MixViews@create.ucsb.edu Conor -- Conor Daly Domestic Sysadmin :-) --------------------- Faenor.cod.ie 11:29pm up 59 days, 8:46, 0 users, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 11:17pm up 2 days, 5:54, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Sep 24 10:47:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E0D16F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:31 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8O80bC26634 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:00:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200209240800.g8O80bC26634@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: boingboing Subject: Great DVD interaction tool, probably illegal Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://boingboing.net/#85481626 Date: Not supplied DVDSynth is an open source project that allows you to splice in your own footage, alternate audio, subtitles, etc, to any DVD. This means that you can insert your own non-sucky subtitles, make and circulate edit-lists that make highlight reels for your favorite movies, etc, etc. It all amounts to a sweet tool for making the audience into the _former audience_, participants in entertainment. Of course, it's also illegal under the DMCA, since the tool also necessarily circumvents the copy-prevention in pre-recorded DVDs to accomplish its ends. 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charset=""us-ascii""; format=flowed Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:22:19 -0600 Ned Jackson Lovely wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:37:31AM -0600, Marty Halvorson wrote: > > A Forest Service official has stated flat out that the tree lovers need to > > understand their responsibility in contributing to the number of > > uncontrollable (i.e., crown fires caused by very dense tree stands and > > under growth) fires by their suits to stop any tree removal from the > > forests managed by the Forest Service. > > Boy, that is rather strange. I've always been under the impression that > the uncontrollable forest fires were the result of the Forest Service's > long-standing ""10:00 A.M. policy"" If you'll look closely, I said the Forest Service official claimed it was the tree lovers lawsuits that prevented removal of trees by any means as at least partially responsible. The lawsuits prevented the Forest Service from implementation of any project that involved tree removal. These projects were designed to address the tree and undergrowth density that resulted from previous management policies. In other words, Forest Service projects to clean up the mess resulting from their previous forest management practices are prevented by tree lover lawsuits. > 40 years after the end of the containment policy there is still a lot of stuff > left to burn. Exactly, and tree lover lawsuits are preventing the removal of that stuff. The result: Fires like Cerro Grande. > I can't imagine that artificially planted replacement > forests ... There are very few replacement forests planted these days. Those that are, are mostly planted on private land as commercial tree farms. Peace, Marty Halvorson marty@halvorson.us http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "Return-Path: guido@python.org Delivery-Date: Fri Sep 6 15:31:22 2002 From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:31:22 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Deployment Message-ID: <200209061431.g86EVM114413@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> Quite independently from testing and tuning the algorithm, I'd like to think about deployment. Eventually, individuals and postmasters should be able to download a spambayes software distribution, answer a few configuration questions about their mail setup, training and false positives, and install it as a filter. A more modest initial goal might be the production of a tool that can easily be used by individuals (since we're more likely to find individuals willing to risk this than postmasters). There are many ways to do this. Some ideas: - A program that acts both as a pop client and a pop server. You configure it by telling it about your real pop servers. You then point your mail reader to the pop server at localhost. When it receives a connection, it connects to the remote pop servers, reads your mail, and gives you only the non-spam. To train it, you'd only need to send it the false negatives somehow; it can assume that anything is ham that you don't say is spam within 48 hours. - A server with a custom protocol that you send a copy of a message and that answers ""spam"" or ""ham"". Then you have a little program that is invoked e.g. by procmail that talks to the server. (The server exists so that it doesn't have to load the pickle with the scoring database for each message. I don't know how big that pickle would be, maybe loading it each time is fine. Or maybe marshalling.) - Your idea here. Takers? How is ESR's bogofilter packaged? SpamAssassin? 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Message-Id: <20020721151211.7140ecdb.che666@uni.de> In-Reply-To: <20020721145013.4dc253d6.che666@uni.de> References: <1027203479.5354.14.camel@athena> <20020720211551.6fb70f27.kilroy@kamakiriad.com> <1027218043.3516.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20020721051108.0fd207d5.che666@uni.de> <20020721142007.03c02bc4.che666@uni.de> <1027252799.12983.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20020721145013.4dc253d6.che666@uni.de> Organization: che X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net Errors-To: rpm-zzzlist-admin@freshrpms.net X-Beenthere: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rpm-zzzlist@freshrpms.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Freshrpms RPM discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:12:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:12:11 -0400 On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:50:13 -0400 che wrote: > On 21 Jul 2002 23:59:59 +1200 > Mark Derricutt wrote: > > > On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 06:20, che wrote: > > > > > The server mentioned above works again now :)! > > > > Any problems with the rpm's they provided? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > RPM-List mailing list > > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list > > #redhat 7.3 > rpm http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 73 > rpm-src http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 73 > > #redhat 7.2 > rpm http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 72 > rpm-src http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 72 > > thats the correct lines to be added to sources.list for the repository > > i just did a apt-get install gnome-session its still progressing :) > after apt-get install gnome-session i did another apt-get upgrade (25 more packages) and it works now... i am in gnome 2.0 wohooooo :) looks very great very ""tidy"" only error message i got was about a mixer applet on login (no biggie to me) even the old sawfish still works. yet its great and works cant say anythign negative yet :) just btw. if someone knows any other nice repositorys please post em :). thanks in advance, che > _______________________________________________ > RPM-List mailing list > http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Sep 24 10:47:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3711416F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8O805C26529 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:00:06 +0100 Message-Id: <200209240800.g8O805C26529@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: aaronsw Subject: TRAMP Update Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/000611 Date: 2002-09-23T23:21:12-06:00 Finally finished up (most of) TRAMP, my RDF interface for Python. (If you don't use RDF or Python you can probably safely skip this entry.) New in this version: RDF library abstraction (because rdflib's organization currently sucks), write values in addition to reading, and unit tests, all with that old TRAMP flavor you've come to know and love. _But wait,_ it also comes with an entire page of explanation/advertisement[1] if you're not already convinced. RDF/XML got you down? Tired of having to go through contortions to deal with data? Want to write Python and be standards-compatible at the same time? Need a module to implement the psuedo-code you had on your slides? * TRAMP may or may not be the answer to these problems!* Enjoy, and get a free bonus prize if you can tell me[2] why it's called TRAMP. [1] http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/tramp [2] mailto:me@aaronsw.com",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 9 16:05:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59159440DD for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:59:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79Ed3b08819 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:39:03 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00305 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:07:50 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA32750; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:06:20 +0100 Received: from florence.ie.alphyra.com (IDENT:qgSdufUD3/NJsnJ521pE5VnrTXxRzFxf@itg-gw.cr008.cwt.esat.net [193.120.242.226]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA32717 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:06:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host IDENT:qgSdufUD3/NJsnJ521pE5VnrTXxRzFxf@itg-gw.cr008.cwt.esat.net [193.120.242.226] claimed to be florence.ie.alphyra.com Received: from dunlop.admin.ie.alphyra.com (IDENT:CC0f5u60ueaorKp3yFhdVTp7Zp65KNNi@dunlop.admin.ie.alphyra.com [192.168.11.193]) by florence.ie.alphyra.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g78J6CQ32271; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:06:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:06:12 +0100 (IST) From: Paul Jakma X-X-Sender: paulj@dunlop.admin.ie.alphyra.com To: kevin lyda Cc: irish linux users group Subject: Re: [ILUG] TMDA (WAS --> slashdot EW Dijkstra humor] In-Reply-To: <20020808195245.C24688@ie.suberic.net> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, kevin lyda wrote: > the more the merrier indeed. > - makes it harder for spammers to do their work. however, tmda isn't > an smtp proxy normally. well, smtp being store and forward, what is an smtp proxy? :) that's why i said ""proxy"". probably, the most effective way to stop spam in the long-term is to configure your email server to use the SPEWS blacklist and a good open relay blacklist. SPEWS: to force ISPs to take action against spammers SPEWS /will/ list entire ISP netblocks /if/ the ISP consistently ignores/fails to take action on abuse reports over the course of several months. however, they're pretty quick at delisting once action is taken. in the long-term, and in absence of global and effective anti-UCE regulations, it's the only realistic way to get to a spam free internet. Open relay lists: to protect against relays obviously. > kevin regards, -- Paul Jakma Sys Admin Alphyra paulj@alphyra.ie Warning: /never/ send email to spam@dishone.st or trap@dishone.st -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Fri Aug 2 10:47:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF00440F1 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 05:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:47:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g729fT214937 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:41:29 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30322; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:39:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from holly.csn.ul.ie (holly.csn.ul.ie [136.201.105.4]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30294 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:39:42 +0100 Received: from skynet.csn.ul.ie (skynet [136.201.105.2]) by holly.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C612B6B9 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:39:12 +0100 (IST) Received: by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix, from userid 2196) id 45411E508; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:39:12 +0100 (IST) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:39:12 +0100 From: Stephen Shirley To: ""Irish Linux User's Group (E-mail)"" Subject: Re: [ILUG] Quake 3 Message-Id: <20020802093912.GA19703@skynet.ie> Mail-Followup-To: ""Irish Linux User's Group (E-mail)"" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:41:52AM +0100, Gregory McRandal (ext 722) wrote: > I've installed Quake 3 onto my computer and it starts to run up ok but as > soon as the graphics start it bails out. It complains that there is an > error in sis_drv.o, the line before this says that it is starting Quake in > 24 bit depth, now from http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsis630.shtml I > understand that the sis630 won't do 24 bit depth. So is there a way to make > Quake start up in 16 bit depth? I've done some ""google""ing but drawn a > blank..... Hmm. Check to see what colour-depth your X session is running in. Try changing DefaultDepth to 16 (in /etc/X11/XF86Cnfig-4), and restarting X. Letting us know what distro you're using would help too. Steve -- ""Oh look, it's the Pigeon of Love."" -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Jul 22 18:12:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E709B440D0 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:12:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from webnote.net (mail.webnote.net [193.120.211.219]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6MFhbI08583 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:43:42 +0100 Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by webnote.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30833 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:52:43 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14804; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:48:37 +0100 Received: from homer.jinny.ie ([193.120.171.3]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14773 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:48:31 +0100 Received: from jlooney.jinny.ie (fw [193.120.171.2]) by homer.jinny.ie (8.9.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id IAA16614 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:13:15 +0100 Received: (from john@localhost) by jlooney.jinny.ie (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6M7m9s01589 for ilug@linux.ie; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:48:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: jlooney.jinny.ie: john set sender to jlooney@jinny.ie using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:48:08 +0100 From: ""John P. Looney"" To: Irish LUG list Message-Id: <20020722074808.GF3234@jinny.ie> Reply-To: ilug@linux.ie Mail-Followup-To: Irish LUG list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Os: Red Hat Linux 7.3/Linux 2.4.18-3 X-Url: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen X-Gnupg-Publickey: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen/public.asc Subject: [ILUG] FAT undelete on linux ? Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Has anyone used (successfully!) a fat undelete program on Linux ? Something like a simple version of the norton disk tools would be fine. Actually, most likely the MS DOS ""undelete"" program would do... Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "Return-Path: skip@pobox.com Delivery-Date: Mon Sep 9 15:11:16 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:11:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes package? In-Reply-To: <20020909131606.GA1136@cthulhu.gerg.ca> References: <15738.34711.467756.145336@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> <200209080247.g882lNt17033@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> <20020909131606.GA1136@cthulhu.gerg.ca> Message-ID: <15740.44036.651321.285627@12-248-11-90.client.attbi.com> >> If and when we package this, perhaps we should use Barry's trick ... Greg> It's not a *trick*! It just requires this Greg> package_dir = {'spambayes': '.'} Greg> in the setup script. That has the nasty side effect of placing all .py files in the package. What about obvious executable scripts (like timtest or hammie)? How can I keep them out of the package? 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Fri Jul 26 00:46:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00845440E7 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:46:32 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PNmb407543 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:48:38 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464482940F2; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from crank.slack.net (slack.net [166.84.151.181]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9F52940E3 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crank.slack.net (Postfix, from userid 596) id 5FAF93ED56; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crank.slack.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4A93EB48; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom To: ""Joseph S. Barrera III"" Cc: chris arkenberg , Subject: Re: USA USA WE ARE NUMBER ....six. In-Reply-To: <3D407B58.3070102@barrera.org> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:46:26 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: --]And, having realized that, a lot of them are now having babies. --]I can't believe the number of friends at work who are now pregnant --]or have already just had their babies. We hope that in the next generation we can bring back what we once thought of as our future, or more aptly thier future will be a shade better than what ours is turning out to be. I cant help but appologise to my wifes bulging middle in these last few dyas of the pregancy. I wanted so much more for him. My daughter and I talk about this in the ways an 8 year old can with a 39 year old. She realizes things are not all they could have been, but shes sort of ready for the challange. She told me the other day she would get to the moon if I dont. Gota love kids, they say the coolest things at just the right times. As for profit and the drive towars it...moeny is simply a tool,simply one way of many to facilitate living the life you want. Too many have taken the tool for the goal, the race for the prize and the notion that first is all. Yea yea, this sad burlesque. -tom http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From iiu-admin@taint.org Thu Aug 22 10:46:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD25143C45 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 05:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:46:04 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7M9bAZ00868; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:37:10 +0100 Received: from hawk.dcu.ie (mail.dcu.ie [136.206.1.5]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7M9aKZ00845 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:36:20 +0100 Received: from dcu.ie (136.206.21.115) by hawk.dcu.ie (6.0.040) id 3D6203D30000F758; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:36:25 +0100 Message-Id: <3D64B072.4070904@dcu.ie> From: Bernard Michael Tyers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: ga, en-ie, eu, en-us, de-at, as MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Open Tech list , iiu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IIU] Printer cartiridges looking for a good home. Sender: iiu-admin@taint.org Errors-To: iiu-admin@taint.org X-Beenthere: iiu@iiu.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: iiu@taint.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Irish Internet Users List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:35:46 +0100 howdy all, I have in my possession the following: 2/3 Apple toner cartridges M20 45G/A for laser writer 300 / 320 / and 4/600 PS 1 Apple toner cartridge M2473G/A for laser writer 16/600PS / pro 630 / pro 600 1 Cannon EP-A cartridge 1 Cannon EP-E cartridge (the numbers might be a little less) Does anyone have one of these printers? Does anyone want to give me the change in their pockets, or the price of a pint for them? They would make a great Christmas present! If so you can call the printer cartridge hotline on the number below. If lines are busy call later. But do call NOW! Bernard ""I should be a host on QVC"" Tyers -- Bernard Tyers * National Centre for Sensor Research * P:353-1-700-5273 * E: bernard.tyers@dcu.ie * W: www.physics.dcu.ie/~bty * L:N117 _______________________________________________ IIU mailing list IIU@iiu.taint.org http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Jul 31 17:12:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FA6440C8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:12:05 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VGBY200322 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:11:34 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15216; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:33 +0100 Received: from milexc01.maxtor.com ([134.6.205.206]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15183 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host [134.6.205.206] claimed to be milexc01.maxtor.com Received: by milexc01.maxtor.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:21 +0100 Message-Id: <0D443C91DCE9CD40B1C795BA222A729E01885536@milexc01.maxtor.com> From: ""Wynne, Conor"" To: ""'jac1'"" , ilug@linux.ie Subject: RE: [ILUG] removing lilo Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:08:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie ""Good"" ol dos fdisk /mbr should do the twick But...but... Jac, your a big linux head....why? regards, CW ------------ hi, i recently had to wipe linux from my pc but forgot to restore the original MBR (NT). Anyone know how i can do this? linux is entirely gone and no boot floppy. formatting the entire disk doesn't do it either. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Mon Sep 2 13:13:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zzzz@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0430947C7A for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for zzzz@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:42:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g82AaFZ28780 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:36:15 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30726; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:35:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host root@localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lugh Received: from [193.95.181.146] ([193.95.181.146]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA30670 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:34:56 +0100 Received: from athens.itsmobile.com by [193.95.181.146] via smtpd (for lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 10:26:06 UT X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""us-ascii"" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:45:50 +0100 Message-Id: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Tnef-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What HOWTOs for SOHO system Thread-Index: AcJSbGP3hSOj275NEdaF/AABAgjiLA== From: ""Dermot Daly"" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugh.tuatha.org id LAA30670 Subject: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Hi All, I'm trying to set up the following: 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an ethernet card for LAN connectivity 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for DNS/DHCP etc. Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0. I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the default route or something). Is there standard ""out of the box"" Linux tools that will carry out portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0 interface). Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need to follow ? Thanks, Dermot. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Wed Jul 24 14:15:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB19440CD for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:15:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6ODG3414691 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:16:03 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024D929414A; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B4829410C for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 05:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ThosStew@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id 2.186.b3487c0 (4419) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:08:11 -0400 (EDT) From: ThosStew@aol.com Message-Id: <186.b3487c0.2a7000bb@aol.com> Subject: Re: SimPastry To: FoRK@xent.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""US-ASCII"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:08:11 EDT In a message dated 7/23/2002 8:45:18 PM, ejw@cse.ucsc.edu writes: >Pastry is a generic, scalable and efficient substrate for peer-to-peer >applications. Pastry nodes form a decentralized, self-organizing and >fault-tolerant overlay network within the Internet. Is it made with lard, butter, or vegetable shortenings? http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Jul 31 11:19:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F001440C8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:19:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (root@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VAEv215553 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:14:57 +0100 Received: from lugh (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28005; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:13:15 +0100 Received: from mail.aculink.net (65-173-158-7.aculink.net [65.173.158.7]) by lugh.tuatha.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27973 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:13:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lugh.tuatha.org: Host 65-173-158-7.aculink.net [65.173.158.7] claimed to be mail.aculink.net Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net ([204.118.157.88]) by mail.aculink.net (Merak 4.4.2) with ESMTP id EDA37003 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:20:20 -0600 Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/ver) id g6VAhuq10699; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:43:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:43:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200207311043.g6VAhuq10699@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-No-Archive: yes From: SoloCDM Reply-To: , To: ILUG (Request) Subject: [ILUG] C++ and C Mailing Lists for Beginners and Advanced Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie Are there any mailing lists (non-newsgroups) for C++ and C Beginners and Advanced programmers? Links are welcomed! -- Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Tue Aug 27 00:53:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0480643F99 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:53:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7QNnfZ15088 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:49:42 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF8F2941C9; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from argote.ch (argote.ch [80.65.224.17]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1B129417F for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argote.ch (Postfix, from userid 500) id 4DAC7C44D; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:40:02 +0200 (CEST) To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Subject: Re: A biblical digression Message-Id: <20020826234002.4DAC7C44D@argote.ch> From: harley@argote.ch (Robert Harley) Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:40:02 +0200 (CEST) John Hall: >Ran across a site which claimed to explain the original meaning of the >Ten Commandments. It seems some of those meanings have evolved a bit, too. You mean that ""Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's ass"" used to be about donkeys??? Inconceivable!!! 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In-Reply-To: <200209021953.g82Jrerq003365@orion.dwf.com> References: <200209021953.g82Jrerq003365@orion.dwf.com> Comments: In-reply-to Reg Clemens message dated ""Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:53:40 -0600."" From: Brent Welch X-Url: http://www.panasas.com/ X-Face: ""HxE|?EnC9fVMV8f70H83&{fgLE.|FZ^$>@Q(yb#N,Eh~N]e&]=>r5~UnRml1:4EglY{9B+ :'wJq$@c_C!l8@<$t,{YUr4K,QJGHSvS~U]H`<+L*x?eGzSk>XH\W:AK\j?@?c1o List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion list for EXMH users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 19:01:49 -0700 2 things - first, the switch parser changed in a subtle way with 8.4 - byte-code compilation was added, and it is slightly more strict in its parsing than the original parser. You can only have a comment where Tcl would expect to find a command. Switch has a ""pattern - body"" strucutre, so if you goof and put a comment where it is trying to find a pattern, both of you will be confused with the results. The subtlty arises with extra whitespace and newlines. I can't give you the exact case, but I know exmh had one example that stopped parsing correctly, and was arguably wrong before. 2nd - I've managed to remain fairly ignoranat of the PGP support in exmh, so you'll have to dig in yourself or see if someone else on exmh-users or exmh-workers is having similar problems. >>>Reg Clemens said: > > If you haven't already, you should enable the debug log under > > Hacking Support preferences and look for clues there. > > > > >>>Reg Clemens said: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 00:05:03 MDT Reg Clemens wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > in messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key I D BDD > > F997A > > > > > Can't check signature: public key not found > > > > > > > > > > So, something else is missing. > > > > > > > > Yes, the public key of the signature you want to check :-). > > > > > > > > Are you really sure that you have the public key of the message's > > > > signature? If not, try downloading it or try to check a signature fro m > > > > which you know you have the public key. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, sorry for not making that clearer. > > > But no. > > > Previously (v1.0.6 of GnuPG) there would be a slight pause at this poin t whi > > le > > > it went out to get the public key from a keyserver. > > > Now, whether I have the key or NOT, I get the failure message. > > > > > > Its as if it cant find gpg to execute it (but I fixed that path), so th ere > > > must be something else that I am missing... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Reg.Clemens > > > reg@dwf.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Exmh-users mailing list > > > Exmh-users@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users > > > > -- > > Brent Welch > > Software Architect, Panasas Inc > > Pioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network > > www.panasas.com > > welch@panasas.com > > > > > Partial solution. > And this MAY be related to using tcl/tk 8.4b1, as I had a similar > problem about a month ago elsewhere in EXMH (which you found). > > But first. > I really feel like something has changed out from under me > with my making no changes to EXMH. Namely, when I first got > GPG up and working (for reading signatures) all I did was > touch the 'Check Signature' button' and it went out and queried > the keyserver for me. > Now Im getting a separate box, after the failure to find the > public key on my keyring, asking me of I want to 'Query keyserver' > > I KNOW that I never had to touch a 'Query keyserver' button in > the past, but there it is now, and I havent touched EXMH. Spooky. > > I have been working back and forth between GPG 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 > but its not clear how that could be the problem, as Im now getting > the 'Query' message when running either... > > --- > > OK, enough about my confusion. > The CURRENT problem seems to be a COMMENT in a SWITCH statement > at line 86 in pgpWWW.tcl. Tcl 8.4b1 doesnt like it and I get your > popup box. Remove it and no popupbox, but EXMH hangs (sigh). > So, not a complete solution, but at least a start. > > Thanks for the interest. > > Reg.Clemens > reg@dwf.com -- Brent Welch Software Architect, Panasas Inc Pioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network www.panasas.com welch@panasas.com _______________________________________________ Exmh-users mailing list Exmh-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Mon Sep 9 14:34:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEC016EFC for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:34:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:34:30 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89B4DC10789 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:04:14 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8722941D5; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 04:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76F29409C for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 04:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 216-164-236-234.s234.tnt3.frdb.va.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.236.234] helo=TOSHIBA-L8QYR7M) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #6) id 17oMJg-000417-00 for Fork@xent.com; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 07:02:52 -0400 From: ""John Evdemon"" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Recommended Viewing Message-Id: <3D7C479A.6222.1C08076@localhost> Priority: normal In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:02:50 -0400 On 8 Sep 2002 at 22:15, Geege Schuman wrote: > who watched Lathe of Heaven? (A&E, 8 pm EDT) who has seen > the original? > By ""original"" if you are referring to the old PBS version, I liked that version much better. Much more thought provoking.",0 "From ilug-admin@linux.ie Wed Dec 4 11:53:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D71016F16 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:53:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:53:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (postfix@lugh.tuatha.org [194.125.145.45]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4Bmd813007 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:48:39 GMT Received: from lugh.tuatha.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugh.tuatha.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4895134248; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: linux.ie-ilug@localhost Received: from mahler.ucd.ie (mahler.ucd.ie [137.43.12.63]) by lugh.tuatha.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D43C34247 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:49:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gavin by mahler.ucd.ie with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18JY74-0005x2-00 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:54:46 +0000 From: Gavin McCullagh To: ""'ILUG@linux.ie'"" Subject: Re: [ILUG] Linux Install Message-Id: <20021204115445.GC22559@fiachra.ucd.ie> Reply-To: Irish Linux Users Group Mail-Followup-To: ""'ILUG@linux.ie'"" References: <3C0F11345BD5D611BD8D00902733977E12C077@exchcl.epa.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C0F11345BD5D611BD8D00902733977E12C077@exchcl.epa.ie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Gnupg-Publickey: http://fiachra.ucd.ie/~gavin/public.gpg X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.18-686 i686 Sender: ilug-admin@linux.ie Errors-To: ilug-admin@linux.ie X-Beenthere: ilug@linux.ie X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Irish Linux Users' Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:54:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:54:45 +0000 Hi, I think you need to give us a little more detailed information. On Wed, 04 Dec 2002, Gianni Ponzi wrote: > I have a prob when trying to install Linux (tried RedHat, Suse) on my > laptop. You get _exactly_ the same problem with Suse and RedHat, is that right? What versions of these have you used? > I can start the install but after about 2min, the whole pc just > dies. As in freezes, reboots? Do you get any errors? > I know it's not a Linux prob and here is what I have encountered: > > I had the same problem when installing Win on it and eventually sorted it > out by disabling the infrared port. Did you disable it in the BIOS or in windows? > I'm guessing this might be same prob although I'm not sure. I am very new > to Linux so it's not that easy for me to work it out. I did manage to > follow the setup procedure at one stage (using images on disks) and it > cuts out either as it's trying to verify what CD-Rom I have or just after > (hence my suspicion of the infrared port again). 1. What laptop is it? What is the Processor and how much RAM does it have? 2. You cannot simply boot off the cdrom? It must be quite an old laptop then or else cdrom booting is disabled in the BIOS. Is the cdrom external or strange in some way? Gavin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie",0 "From fork-admin@xent.com Thu Sep 19 11:05:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF0F16F03 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:05:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:05:28 +0100 (IST) Received: from xent.com ([64.161.22.236]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8J3eiC03141 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 04:40:45 +0100 Received: from lair.xent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81B92940FA; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fork@spamassassin.taint.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav37.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.94]) by xent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D033729409E for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:39:35 -0700 X-Originating-Ip: [207.202.171.254] From: ""Mr. FoRK"" To: Subject: Oh ma gawd - funny site of the day... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=""iso-8859-1"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-Id: X-Originalarrivaltime: 19 Sep 2002 03:39:35.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C6B00C0:01C25F8E] Sender: fork-admin@xent.com Errors-To: fork-admin@xent.com X-Beenthere: fork@spamassassin.taint.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Friends of Rohit Khare List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:44:08 -0700 This is for those that have interacted with D Winer ""Dave's idea of love is fucking everyone else without so much as a reach around. You're supposed to just shut up and take it."" http://winerlog.inspiredsites.net/ =========== Who's the real monster? It seems good Ol' Uncle Dave is once again trying to savage anyone that dares to disagree with him. It seems Ben, Kevin and Bill are making too strong a case. So here we Dave's attempt to fool you into thinking they're some sort of monsters, violent ones no less. Anyone who works with Hemenway or Kearney should be aware that these people are nothing less than monsters, who will stoop to any level to get their way. Yeah sure Dave, whatever you need to believe. The truth is these folks do a fine job of actually helping others and improving RSS in general. Each with their own brand of attitude, to be sure, but they seem to be pretty focused on actually helping things move forward. How is that being monstrous? Is Dave trying to slander their good names and thus poison the public's perception of them? If you haven't already, contact them and ask them how they feel about this foolishness. 9/18/02; 10:07:38 AM - Discuss Dave deflects what he can't take the time to understand It's really quite pitiful. When normal people don't understand something they usually try learning about it. They read up, ask questions and seek the help of those that understand it. This before shooting their mouths off and looking like fools. What Dave does is just the opposite. Posts a link to something he doesn't understand Get's a bunch of e-mail from people who do understand it Derides the idea as being 'too much trouble' and blogs it. Expects others to do research for him Abuses anyone who tries to help him Pontificates, incorrectly, about only part of the issue Realizes he's been a fool but refuses to correct himself Plods forward pedantically trying to defend his idiocy Tries making the educated people look like fools. Sends private e-mails to them trying to scare them off. Exposes any private e-mail they write, out of context. Deflects and runs off to some new topic, repeats from #1 His continued diatribes about RSS-1.0 and it's use of RDF reveal this to be true. Dave doesn't get the idea of the semantic web. He'd rather have you follow his stupid ideas than dare admit that the work of others is worth trying. One reader wrote to us with a good analogy. ""It's like that movie The Poseidon Adventure. Dave's like the purser ranting and raving that the passengers should follow him and march toward the bow. I don't know about you but I'd rather be with the fat lady swimming toward the engine room. The ship's fucking sinking and I don't want to be following the idiot."" Dave's idea of love is fucking everyone else without so much as a reach around. You're supposed to just shut up and take it. After all, why would good ol' Uncle Dave want to hurt you? It's all about love, right? To hell with asking you if you want to get shafted. And if you dare complain, he savages you. Then he tries to make everyone think you're the one causing all the trouble. We've news for you Dave, we're wise to your tactics and we're talking amongst ourselves about it. We're routing around you damaging behavoir. That's where we're coming from. If you have an example of how you've tried to help Dave, please drop us an e-mail about it. We'll keep it strictly confidential of course. Send it along to zaphod@egroups.com 9/12/02; 10:13:11 AM - Discuss Trying to talk with Dave is like trying to wrestle a pig... The trouble is, you get dirty and the pig seems to like it. Another developer tries talking to Dave and discovers it's fundamentally impossible: His basic response was just that RDF was a joke and the Semantic Web developers are doing a terrible job. In the span of less than five minutes Dave makes such an ass of himself that people at other tables start whispering ""that guy is an idiot..."" The zaphodim, however, are veteran pig wrestlers. If you've got a similar tale from the mud pit, be sure to drop us a line at: zaphod@egroups.com. 9/11/02; 2:17:58 PM - Discuss (1 response) Aha! Some backing down by the whining one? It would appear the 'dictator release' strategy that Dave's been trying on his crappy little set of RSS hacks is failing to gain support. I'm going to push back the caveat-removing on the 2.0 spec by 24 hours. Still have work to do on the sample file, I want to look into the RFC for time-date specs, and get started on the Radio implementation of 2.0. I have to prepare for Seybold tomorrow, and I want to a little memorial for 9-11. A busy few days for a guy still recovering. Also, it would be great if people who make content tools could review the 2.0 spec and see if there are any deal-stoppers. Hell yeah there are deal stoppers, like nobody wants it nor will they use it! The poor Radio customers! The poor Salon blog users! They're going to be dragged unwillingly into producing XML content that nobody will use! So with the flip of his mighty upgrade switch Dave is going to turn all their content into totally unsupported garbage!!! Ya better speak up now folks otherwise your content is going to start getting rejected! Of course at the same time Dave tries to play the sympathy card. What utter fucking nonsense. This past weekend, the blogosphere excoriates him for his 'blame America' bullshit. Then the RSS community tells him to get stuffed with his dictator release of RSS. Now he's trying to pretend we should be nice to him because he's still recovering? Uh, Dave, if you want to take a rest from the battle then stop picking fights. We'll still kick your ass regardless. That's what years of your abusing people has gotten you Dave. No sympathy anymore, none whatsoever. 9/11/02; 1:56:10 PM - Discuss Dave is Scary on 9/11 Posted on Scripting News on 9/10/2002: Note: During the day tomorrow there will be no updates to Scripting News. I'll be in SF at Seybold, leading a discussion on Web Services for Publishing with people from Amazon, Apple, Google and Jake Savin of UserLand. I may be able to update my Radio weblog, but only if there's something really important to report. So best wishes for a happy and safe 9-11. What kind of asshole wishes people a happy 9/11??!?!?!?!??!! Obviously someone who doesn't have a clue nor lost anyone in the tragedy. 9/11/02; 7:56:06 AM - Discuss Yeow and we though we were harsh! Wow, apparently Dave's sticking his neck out quite far these days. Craig Schamp practically keel-hauls him with this one. He wraps it up with: The man seems to show over and over that he's nothing more than a whining buffoon Give that man an honorary Zaphodim membership card and secret decoder ring! Related links over at PhotoDude, Richard Bennett, Andrea Harris, Reid Stott, Jeff Jarvis, Ipse Dixit, and the Fat Guy. 9/9/02; 12:29:45 PM - Discuss RSS 2.0: code name ""Hitler"" If Dave tries to steamroll RSS 2.0 through without formal community consensus, here now we call it the ""Hitler"" release of 2.0. ""No objections""? No, he means ""No objections I choose to hear."" Dave is simply not listening. People are objecting all over. 9/6/02; 9:00:02 AM - Discuss Referral log funnies Every now and then we check the referral logs to see what's pointing back to us. We sincerely apologize to the pool soul that used this search. 9/5/02; 12:15:07 PM - Discuss Luserland Attempts to Trademark ""RSS"" Dave has waxed and waned about intellectual property rights and how any BigCo that tries to patent its technology or methods is corrupt or morally bankrupt. Scripting News is full of examples. So we found it surprising, as did many others, when Luserland software tried to patent the term 'RSS' back in 2000. Here's the patent application: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78025336 This was apparently just between the start of the RSS 1.0 development efforts, and the publication of the specification. Winer knew about the RSS 1.0 stuff - indeed, he complained about it bitterly at the time. Could Dave be any more transparent?!?!??!?!!!!!!! Since when has Dave been required to follow anything he says he wants others to do??? A good quote from before he filed the patent application: Tim O'Reilly says patents are OK, he's just against stupid patents. In the spirit of Touch of Grey, Tim man, patents are lock-in of the worst kind. There's no way to route around them. 9/4/02; 6:06:51 AM - Discuss When's a Permalink not a Permalink? When Dave writes an item, then removes it!!!!!!!!!!! The permalink links to nothing at that point. So apparently the ""perma-"" part in permalink is permanent. For everyone except Dave. Too bad his little attempt at a definition fails to mention this...!!!!!!!!! 9/2/02; 6:16:03 PM - Discuss",0 "From rssfeeds@jmason.org Tue Sep 24 10:47:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.spamassassin.taint.org Received: from localhost (jalapeno [127.0.0.1]) by jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2377D16F03 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from jalapeno [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:47:47 +0100 (IST) Received: from dogma.slashnull.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8O80aC26625 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:00:36 +0100 Message-Id: <200209240800.g8O80aC26625@dogma.slashnull.org> To: yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org From: boingboing Subject: Janis Ian interviewed on Slashdot Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:00:36 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; encoding=utf-8 URL: http://boingboing.net/#85482094 Date: Not supplied Janis Ian, a brave and talented recording artist (and budding and talented science fiction writer) has done a terrific interview with the Slashdot groupmind about her views on the music industry. Seriously, diversity is something record companies can't afford anymore - not the majors, at any rate. I'd go to this article, posted at Linux Journal, which quotes a Newsweet article (July 15,2002) by Steven Levy saying ""So why are the record labels taking such a hard line? My guess is that it's all about protecting their Internet-challenged business model. Their profit comes from blockbuster artists. If the industry moved to a more varied ecology, independent labels and artists would thrive--to the detriment of the labels, which would have trouble rustling up the rubes to root for the next Britney. The smoking gun comes from testimony of an RIAA-backed economist who told the government fee panel that a dramatic shakeout in Webcasting is ""inevitable and desirable because it will bring about market consolidation."" That's really it in a nutshell. ""Market consolidation"" means the less artists they have to promote, the less ultimate dollars they'll spend. The smaller the playlist, the greater the chance that audiences will buy something from that playlist alone - because that's all you'll be able to find out there. Link[1] Discuss[2] [1] http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/23/133228 [2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/8nEQCxZaP8U6X",0 "From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Tue Aug 20 10:57:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C4043C32 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 05:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos [127.0.0.1] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jm@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:56:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JHTkZ02364 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:29:46 +0100 Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17gqCB-0001p0-00; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:20:03 -0700 Received: from h-66-166-21-186.snvacaid.covad.net ([66.166.21.186] helo=nexus.cloudmark.com) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17gqBf-000678-00 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:19:31 -0700 Received: (from chad@localhost) by nexus.cloudmark.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7JHHRp21235; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:17:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: nexus.cloudmark.com: chad set sender to chad@cloudmark.com using -f From: Chad Norwood To: Steve Price , razor-users@example.sourceforge.net Message-Id: <20020819171726.GE5484@nexus.cloudmark.com> References: <20020819141417.GS367@bsd.havk.org> <20020819144150.GA1800@darkridge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020819144150.GA1800@darkridge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [Razor-users] Re: turning off checksums per MIME part Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:17:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:17:26 -0700 The way Razor breaks down mail is simple. If a mail contains MIME boundaries it is split on those boundaries, each MIME part is considered when marking the mail as spam. In 2.14, there are different 'logic methods' for detecting spam. The default method 5 requires all non-contention parts to be spam for the mail to be marked as spam. A part is considered under contention if its not clear if its spam are not, and is relatively rare. Sounds like you are not using 2.14, or maybe you're misinterpreting the log files. Feel free to send me the log files if you think there is a bug. Also, as jordan says, if you get a legit mail marked as spam (based on whatever MIME stuff is going on), you should revoke it (which sends all parts in) so TeS can take care of business. cheers, chad On 19/08/02 07:41 -0700, Jordan Ritter wrote: ) If I understand you correctly, you should revoke the message en total, ) because this is one of various inputs that TeS uses to understand what ) parts are under contention. ) ) As for your question specifically, Chad can answer that (sorry, I ) don't know). ) ) --jordan ) ) On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 09:14:17AM -0500, Steve Price wrote: ) ) # Is there an easy way in Razor v2 to turn off detecting a message as ) # SPAM if one of the MIME parts was found in a previous SPAM? I just ) # received subscribe request to a moderated ecartis list and it was ) # detected as SPAM because it contained an empty text/plain part and ) # an ""empty"" (to iMail anyway) text/html part. In reality there were ) # no MIME parts to this message since the body of the email contained ) # instructions from ecartis along with a forwarded copy of the ) # subscribe request which happened to be a multipart MIME message. ) # Sure there were MIME boundaries in the forwarded message but the ) # message as received wasn't a multipart MIME message so Razor should ) # not have detected any of the MIME boundary headers in the body of ) # the forwarded message. I realized I could whitelist the part that ) # is listed but it would seem that the detection of MIME boundaries ) # should be reserved for messages that actually have multiple MIME ) # parts and not every message that looks like it might. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? 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