### Human: And remember we were chatting, see how you go with that, but I'm happy to have a session with you and Mum in the future, if you'd like that. We've spoken about that and we plan that together.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Totally your choice. But we planned it so that Mum didn't feel-- hopefully wouldn't feel that she's feeling blamed and we're trying to work it through together. How you feeling?### Assistant: Good.### Human: Good. Good. Because I saw your face like, "What is she talking about."### Assistant: I have no idea about that, no.


### Human: Totally your choice. But we planned it so that Mum didn't feel-- hopefully wouldn't feel that she's feeling blamed and we're trying to work it through together. How you feeling?### Assistant: Good.### Human: Good. Good. Because I saw your face like, "What is she talking about."### Assistant: I have no idea about that, no.### Human: Maybe Mum had left until it's closer to the date to have a chat about it.### Assistant: I wish she might not have told us and just brought us anyways, yeah.


### Human: Good. Good. Because I saw your face like, "What is she talking about."### Assistant: I have no idea about that, no.### Human: Maybe Mum had left until it's closer to the date to have a chat about it.### Assistant: I wish she might not have told us and just brought us anyways, yeah.### Human: Has that happened before?### Assistant: Yeah, she has done that before, yeah, so.


### Human: Maybe Mum had left until it's closer to the date to have a chat about it.### Assistant: I wish she might not have told us and just brought us anyways, yeah.### Human: Has that happened before?### Assistant: Yeah, she has done that before, yeah, so.### Human: Well, I've definitely given you a heads up because Mum had said she would be chatting to you to check that's something you're interested in, and you can definitely bring it up with Mum and go, "Hey, I was following up that you were still having that session."### Assistant: Yes. Yes, she has done that a few times where she doesn't tell us and then just brought us, so. Could be anything.


### Human: Has that happened before?### Assistant: Yeah, she has done that before, yeah, so.### Human: Well, I've definitely given you a heads up because Mum had said she would be chatting to you to check that's something you're interested in, and you can definitely bring it up with Mum and go, "Hey, I was following up that you were still having that session."### Assistant: Yes. Yes, she has done that a few times where she doesn't tell us and then just brought us, so. Could be anything.### Human: That was definitely happening. It definitely would have been discussed with Mum, is the plan, and probably she would've been aware.### Assistant: I don't think he is either.


### Human: Well, I've definitely given you a heads up because Mum had said she would be chatting to you to check that's something you're interested in, and you can definitely bring it up with Mum and go, "Hey, I was following up that you were still having that session."### Assistant: Yes. Yes, she has done that a few times where she doesn't tell us and then just brought us, so. Could be anything.### Human: That was definitely happening. It definitely would have been discussed with Mum, is the plan, and probably she would've been aware.### Assistant: I don't think he is either.### Human: he's not either?### Assistant: I doubt it.


### Human: That was definitely happening. It definitely would have been discussed with Mum, is the plan, and probably she would've been aware.### Assistant: I don't think he is either.### Human: he's not either?### Assistant: I doubt it.### Human: Definitely let Mum know because she did tell me that she was going to have a chat to you about it.### Assistant: When is it?


### Human: he's not either?### Assistant: I doubt it.### Human: Definitely let Mum know because she did tell me that she was going to have a chat to you about it.### Assistant: When is it?### Human: yes, because I wrote it down because I was going to check when you'd like our next session to be, on a Tuesday or before we have that appointment, the family appointment, to see what you were feeling would be a better option for yourself.### Assistant: Before that, would be easier.


### Human: Definitely let Mum know because she did tell me that she was going to have a chat to you about it.### Assistant: When is it?### Human: yes, because I wrote it down because I was going to check when you'd like our next session to be, on a Tuesday or before we have that appointment, the family appointment, to see what you were feeling would be a better option for yourself.### Assistant: Before that, would be easier.### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: Just in case for some reason I'm not up to it or-- yeah. Before that.


### Human: yes, because I wrote it down because I was going to check when you'd like our next session to be, on a Tuesday or before we have that appointment, the family appointment, to see what you were feeling would be a better option for yourself.### Assistant: Before that, would be easier.### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: Just in case for some reason I'm not up to it or-- yeah. Before that.### Human: Yeah. And we can definitely chat it through together if you like of what you'd like to say in the session. Would that be helpful?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: Just in case for some reason I'm not up to it or-- yeah. Before that.### Human: Yeah. And we can definitely chat it through together if you like of what you'd like to say in the session. Would that be helpful?### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Yeah? So you can have a think about. So 3:30 would work right before, or would rather 3:00 to 4:00 and then have a half an hour break before the family session?### Assistant: When's this?


### Human: Yeah. And we can definitely chat it through together if you like of what you'd like to say in the session. Would that be helpful?### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Yeah? So you can have a think about. So 3:30 would work right before, or would rather 3:00 to 4:00 and then have a half an hour break before the family session?### Assistant: When's this?### Human: This is in two weeks, on a Thursday.### Assistant: On a Thursday. Maybe do Tuesday or someday a week before we do it.


### Human: Yeah? So you can have a think about. So 3:30 would work right before, or would rather 3:00 to 4:00 and then have a half an hour break before the family session?### Assistant: When's this?### Human: This is in two weeks, on a Thursday.### Assistant: On a Thursday. Maybe do Tuesday or someday a week before we do it.### Human: Yep. So a week before would be next week. Or we can do the same week, if you like. Your choice.### Assistant: The same week, but a few days before maybe.


### Human: This is in two weeks, on a Thursday.### Assistant: On a Thursday. Maybe do Tuesday or someday a week before we do it.### Human: Yep. So a week before would be next week. Or we can do the same week, if you like. Your choice.### Assistant: The same week, but a few days before maybe.### Human: Yeah. So if we did the Tuesday, so I've written that down thinking you might want a different day, if we did 12:00 o'clock, would that be all right?### Assistant: Should be.


### Human: Yep. So a week before would be next week. Or we can do the same week, if you like. Your choice.### Assistant: The same week, but a few days before maybe.### Human: Yeah. So if we did the Tuesday, so I've written that down thinking you might want a different day, if we did 12:00 o'clock, would that be all right?### Assistant: Should be.### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Should be all right. If not, Mum will change it.


### Human: Yeah. So if we did the Tuesday, so I've written that down thinking you might want a different day, if we did 12:00 o'clock, would that be all right?### Assistant: Should be.### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Should be all right. If not, Mum will change it.### Human: Yeah. I can write it down and Mum can call to change it.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yep.### Assistant: Should be all right. If not, Mum will change it.### Human: Yeah. I can write it down and Mum can call to change it.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: And you can let Mum know that I was following up that you were aware of the family session and you can have a chat with her about it. We've definitively got. Was a late booking, so maybe Mum hasn't had a chance yet to have a chat with both of you because you've been at Dad's place. But you definitely have a heads up now, so it's not a surprise. And we definitely book things in together, so if you're not told that you're coming, it's your choice if you want to come. And that's really i### Assistant:


### Human: Yeah. I can write it down and Mum can call to change it.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: And you can let Mum know that I was following up that you were aware of the family session and you can have a chat with her about it. We've definitively got. Was a late booking, so maybe Mum hasn't had a chance yet to have a chat with both of you because you've been at Dad's place. But you definitely have a heads up now, so it's not a surprise. And we definitely book things in together, so if you're not told that you're coming, it's your choice if you want to come. And that's really i### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: And you can let Mum know that I was following up that you were aware of the family session and you can have a chat with her about it. We've definitively got. Was a late booking, so maybe Mum hasn't had a chance yet to have a chat with both of you because you've been at Dad's place. But you definitely have a heads up now, so it's not a surprise. And we definitely book things in together, so if you're not told that you're coming, it's your choice if you want to come. And that's really i### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: It sounds like she's got good intentions, but that communication's probably a good reason for why it'll be good to see her. Like you've just said, "I'm open to it, but I'd like to know so I can get ready for it too."### Assistant: Yeah. Normally if something came up, she'd text straight away about it, but. When was it booked?### Human: I'm not sure because that was me who booked it in and that was from mum and Mum had said for both of you. When I spoke over the phone, she said she was going to check that both of you were open to the idea. So it sounds like--### Assistant: I guess you and I will have a chat about it.### Human: Yeah. Maybe there's just been some miscommunication and Mum hasn't had that chat to both of you yet, and I'm a step ahead of myself when I've had that chat with you.### Assistant: Yeah, I'll speak with him about it to see what we do, if he wants to, and if he does, we'll do it, if he doesn't, and we'll chat to Mum about it.


### Human: I'm not sure because that was me who booked it in and that was from mum and Mum had said for both of you. When I spoke over the phone, she said she was going to check that both of you were open to the idea. So it sounds like--### Assistant: I guess you and I will have a chat about it.### Human: Yeah. Maybe there's just been some miscommunication and Mum hasn't had that chat to both of you yet, and I'm a step ahead of myself when I've had that chat with you.### Assistant: Yeah, I'll speak with him about it to see what we do, if he wants to, and if he does, we'll do it, if he doesn't, and we'll chat to Mum about it.### Human: Yeah. And what are your thoughts about having that?### Assistant: To be honest, I wouldn't be 100% sure.


### Human: Yeah. Maybe there's just been some miscommunication and Mum hasn't had that chat to both of you yet, and I'm a step ahead of myself when I've had that chat with you.### Assistant: Yeah, I'll speak with him about it to see what we do, if he wants to, and if he does, we'll do it, if he doesn't, and we'll chat to Mum about it.### Human: Yeah. And what are your thoughts about having that?### Assistant: To be honest, I wouldn't be 100% sure.### Human: What would you like to get out of a session with both of you and Mum?### Assistant: No idea, to be honest. I guess I feel uncomfortable speaking about sort of stuff with Mum, so I have no idea of what'd I do, that sort of thing, so. Yeah, I have no idea.


### Human: Yeah. And what are your thoughts about having that?### Assistant: To be honest, I wouldn't be 100% sure.### Human: What would you like to get out of a session with both of you and Mum?### Assistant: No idea, to be honest. I guess I feel uncomfortable speaking about sort of stuff with Mum, so I have no idea of what'd I do, that sort of thing, so. Yeah, I have no idea.### Human: Would that help to focus on that next time together, and we can write down some dot points together?### Assistant: Yeah, I guess.


### Human: What would you like to get out of a session with both of you and Mum?### Assistant: No idea, to be honest. I guess I feel uncomfortable speaking about sort of stuff with Mum, so I have no idea of what'd I do, that sort of thing, so. Yeah, I have no idea.### Human: Would that help to focus on that next time together, and we can write down some dot points together?### Assistant: Yeah, I guess.### Human: Yeah? Totally your choice.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll think about it when I have the appointment, I guess.


### Human: Would that help to focus on that next time together, and we can write down some dot points together?### Assistant: Yeah, I guess.### Human: Yeah? Totally your choice.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll think about it when I have the appointment, I guess.### Human: You can think over it the next week and then see what could be helpful and we can brainstorm it so you're feeling comfortable. And mum's really experienced with working with the family and letting everyone have their voice in what's going on. So I'm hearing you'd like things to be a bit different with Mum, but you're not sure if change is possible. Is that my understanding?### Assistant: Just whether or not I want to talk about sort of what I've gone through.


### Human: Yeah? Totally your choice.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll think about it when I have the appointment, I guess.### Human: You can think over it the next week and then see what could be helpful and we can brainstorm it so you're feeling comfortable. And mum's really experienced with working with the family and letting everyone have their voice in what's going on. So I'm hearing you'd like things to be a bit different with Mum, but you're not sure if change is possible. Is that my understanding?### Assistant: Just whether or not I want to talk about sort of what I've gone through.### Human: What's stopping you from talking about it, you think?### Assistant: Mum.


### Human: You can think over it the next week and then see what could be helpful and we can brainstorm it so you're feeling comfortable. And mum's really experienced with working with the family and letting everyone have their voice in what's going on. So I'm hearing you'd like things to be a bit different with Mum, but you're not sure if change is possible. Is that my understanding?### Assistant: Just whether or not I want to talk about sort of what I've gone through.### Human: What's stopping you from talking about it, you think?### Assistant: Mum.### Human: Mum? What about it?### Assistant: How she takes things when you say it. She doesn't exactly take things well. She gets very angry sometimes. Just in her eyes, she doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong. That's just her. She doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong most of the time.


### Human: What's stopping you from talking about it, you think?### Assistant: Mum.### Human: Mum? What about it?### Assistant: How she takes things when you say it. She doesn't exactly take things well. She gets very angry sometimes. Just in her eyes, she doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong. That's just her. She doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong most of the time.### Human: Yeah. So how do you think you could have that conversation now knowing that there's this potential appointment with Mum?### Assistant: I don't know. I guess I'd wait until Mum spoke about it to speak about it with her. I'd speak to her before.


### Human: Mum? What about it?### Assistant: How she takes things when you say it. She doesn't exactly take things well. She gets very angry sometimes. Just in her eyes, she doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong. That's just her. She doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong most of the time.### Human: Yeah. So how do you think you could have that conversation now knowing that there's this potential appointment with Mum?### Assistant: I don't know. I guess I'd wait until Mum spoke about it to speak about it with her. I'd speak to her before.### Human: Yeah. I hear both of you work as a united front together with talking things through?### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. So how do you think you could have that conversation now knowing that there's this potential appointment with Mum?### Assistant: I don't know. I guess I'd wait until Mum spoke about it to speak about it with her. I'd speak to her before.### Human: Yeah. I hear both of you work as a united front together with talking things through?### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Because things potentially won't change if you don't do some other work, potentially, so that could be good to have that space, and maybe it is the first session, you don't feel too comfortable to say too much and hear what Mum has to say, but it could also be a good place to go, "Hey, Mum, I do feel you take things personally, but this is how I'm feeling," so you can have that skill of being able to be confident, and it's at a place where someone can mediate that conversation too.### Assistant: Yeah. And I guess I'll think about it over the next week.


### Human: Yeah. I hear both of you work as a united front together with talking things through?### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Because things potentially won't change if you don't do some other work, potentially, so that could be good to have that space, and maybe it is the first session, you don't feel too comfortable to say too much and hear what Mum has to say, but it could also be a good place to go, "Hey, Mum, I do feel you take things personally, but this is how I'm feeling," so you can have that skill of being able to be confident, and it's at a place where someone can mediate that conversation too.### Assistant: Yeah. And I guess I'll think about it over the next week.### Human: Yeah. That sounds like a good plan. That's totally your choice. It could be a good option for you to have the space with Mum. And we can definitely talk about it too, but we will talk about unless you're feeling, "No, I don't really want to." It sounds like it can be a bit tricky with Mum, and the best way to be able to talk about it is to have her in the room so you can talk it through, which can be pretty scar in itself.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Because things potentially won't change if you don't do some other work, potentially, so that could be good to have that space, and maybe it is the first session, you don't feel too comfortable to say too much and hear what Mum has to say, but it could also be a good place to go, "Hey, Mum, I do feel you take things personally, but this is how I'm feeling," so you can have that skill of being able to be confident, and it's at a place where someone can mediate that conversation too.### Assistant: Yeah. And I guess I'll think about it over the next week.### Human: Yeah. That sounds like a good plan. That's totally your choice. It could be a good option for you to have the space with Mum. And we can definitely talk about it too, but we will talk about unless you're feeling, "No, I don't really want to." It sounds like it can be a bit tricky with Mum, and the best way to be able to talk about it is to have her in the room so you can talk it through, which can be pretty scar in itself.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: What are you thinking?### Assistant: I don't know. I'll think about it over the next week and see what I want to do about it and speak to you about it.


### Human: Yeah. That sounds like a good plan. That's totally your choice. It could be a good option for you to have the space with Mum. And we can definitely talk about it too, but we will talk about unless you're feeling, "No, I don't really want to." It sounds like it can be a bit tricky with Mum, and the best way to be able to talk about it is to have her in the room so you can talk it through, which can be pretty scar in itself.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: What are you thinking?### Assistant: I don't know. I'll think about it over the next week and see what I want to do about it and speak to you about it.### Human: Sounds like a good plan because we definitely want everyone to feel like it's their choice around it, and I'm hearing it might be something Mum just hasn't gotten around to having a chat about that week, because she definitely said she wanted to check with you boys to check that you both came, like , for young men. And we can check you on this stuff and see where you're feeling with it. Sound good?### Assistant: Yep.


### Human: What are you thinking?### Assistant: I don't know. I'll think about it over the next week and see what I want to do about it and speak to you about it.### Human: Sounds like a good plan because we definitely want everyone to feel like it's their choice around it, and I'm hearing it might be something Mum just hasn't gotten around to having a chat about that week, because she definitely said she wanted to check with you boys to check that you both came, like , for young men. And we can check you on this stuff and see where you're feeling with it. Sound good?### Assistant: Yep.### Human: I'll turn this off.### Assistant: Two session seven, RV, first of the eighth. .. How have you been since-- it was two weeks ago?


### Human: Sounds like a good plan because we definitely want everyone to feel like it's their choice around it, and I'm hearing it might be something Mum just hasn't gotten around to having a chat about that week, because she definitely said she wanted to check with you boys to check that you both came, like , for young men. And we can check you on this stuff and see where you're feeling with it. Sound good?### Assistant: Yep.### Human: I'll turn this off.### Assistant: Two session seven, RV, first of the eighth. .. How have you been since-- it was two weeks ago?### Human: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty well.### Assistant: How's school?


### Human: I'll turn this off.### Assistant: Two session seven, RV, first of the eighth. .. How have you been since-- it was two weeks ago?### Human: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty well.### Assistant: How's school?### Human: Yeah. Good.### Assistant: Good. And new friends because you said last time there was some new people you were hanging out with. How are they?


### Human: Two session seven, RV, first of the eighth. .. How have you been since-- it was two weeks ago?### Assistant: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty well.### Human: How's school?### Assistant: Yeah. Good.### Human: Good. And new friends because you said last time there was some new people you were hanging out with. How are they?### Assistant: Good.


### Human: How's school?### Assistant: Yeah. Good.### Human: Good. And new friends because you said last time there was some new people you were hanging out with. How are they?### Assistant: Good.### Human: Good. Same old. Yeah. What would you like to focus on today?### Assistant: I'm not really sure to be honest.


### Human: Good. And new friends because you said last time there was some new people you were hanging out with. How are they?### Assistant: Good.### Human: Good. Same old. Yeah. What would you like to focus on today?### Assistant: I'm not really sure to be honest.### Human: Totally all good. We'd spoken about sleep in the family session last time. Did you want to focus on either of them first?### Assistant: Don't really know.


### Human: Good. Same old. Yeah. What would you like to focus on today?### Assistant: I'm not really sure to be honest.### Human: Totally all good. We'd spoken about sleep in the family session last time. Did you want to focus on either of them first?### Assistant: Don't really know.### Human: Your choice. Or something--### Assistant: min.


### Human: Totally all good. We'd spoken about sleep in the family session last time. Did you want to focus on either of them first?### Assistant: Don't really know.### Human: Your choice. Or something--### Assistant: min.### Human: --else. That's fine too.### Assistant: I have no idea whatsoever.


### Human: Your choice. Or something--### Assistant: min.### Human: --else. That's fine too.### Assistant: I have no idea whatsoever.### Human: Whatsoever. Did you want to start with sleep because I know I've got that here? Do you remember what we'd spoken about last time? How is your memory?### Assistant: Not exactly.


### Human: --else. That's fine too.### Assistant: I have no idea whatsoever.### Human: Whatsoever. Did you want to start with sleep because I know I've got that here? Do you remember what we'd spoken about last time? How is your memory?### Assistant: Not exactly.### Human: What was our plan around if you heard a noise at night? Do you remember that? There were three things you were going to do.### Assistant: Oh, that's right.


### Human: Whatsoever. Did you want to start with sleep because I know I've got that here? Do you remember what we'd spoken about last time? How is your memory?### Assistant: Not exactly.### Human: What was our plan around if you heard a noise at night? Do you remember that? There were three things you were going to do.### Assistant: Oh, that's right.### Human: I know it's in the back of the brain there. In a memory there.### Assistant: I decided to myself that it was nothing, and if I still wasn't 100% sure, see if I can find the courage to get up. And if I--


### Human: What was our plan around if you heard a noise at night? Do you remember that? There were three things you were going to do.### Assistant: Oh, that's right.### Human: I know it's in the back of the brain there. In a memory there.### Assistant: I decided to myself that it was nothing, and if I still wasn't 100% sure, see if I can find the courage to get up. And if I--### Human: And there was one in between the two.### Assistant: The first one was turning over.


### Human: I know it's in the back of the brain there. In a memory there.### Assistant: I decided to myself that it was nothing, and if I still wasn't 100% sure, see if I can find the courage to get up. And if I--### Human: And there was one in between the two.### Assistant: The first one was turning over.### Human: Yes. Good memory. How did you go with them? How has sleep been?### Assistant: I haven't really done it as much because I'm starting to fall asleep now a lot earlier.


### Human: And there was one in between the two.### Assistant: The first one was turning over.### Human: Yes. Good memory. How did you go with them? How has sleep been?### Assistant: I haven't really done it as much because I'm starting to fall asleep now a lot earlier.### Human: So tell me about that. What time are you going to sleep? Because last time you were adjusting to the time zone, so you were saying sleep was pretty easy.### Assistant: At the moment I start falling to bed at around about 10:30.


### Human: Yes. Good memory. How did you go with them? How has sleep been?### Assistant: I haven't really done it as much because I'm starting to fall asleep now a lot earlier.### Human: So tell me about that. What time are you going to sleep? Because last time you were adjusting to the time zone, so you were saying sleep was pretty easy.### Assistant: At the moment I start falling to bed at around about 10:30.### Human: And falling asleep at 10:30. That's amazing. That's a huge difference from-- I think when I first, first met you it was like 3:00 AM you couldn't fall asleep till. What do you think's changed?### Assistant: I don't know to be honest. I really have no idea. It might have been the weeks away because I don't even really know what caused me to have all of the-- yeah. To have all of these problems with sleeping. So I don't really know what happened. I found that I've been a lot more tired. Falling asleep around about 10:30ish now for the past three weeks.


### Human: So tell me about that. What time are you going to sleep? Because last time you were adjusting to the time zone, so you were saying sleep was pretty easy.### Assistant: At the moment I start falling to bed at around about 10:30.### Human: And falling asleep at 10:30. That's amazing. That's a huge difference from-- I think when I first, first met you it was like 3:00 AM you couldn't fall asleep till. What do you think's changed?### Assistant: I don't know to be honest. I really have no idea. It might have been the weeks away because I don't even really know what caused me to have all of the-- yeah. To have all of these problems with sleeping. So I don't really know what happened. I found that I've been a lot more tired. Falling asleep around about 10:30ish now for the past three weeks.### Human: Past three weeks.### Assistant: What?


### Human: And falling asleep at 10:30. That's amazing. That's a huge difference from-- I think when I first, first met you it was like 3:00 AM you couldn't fall asleep till. What do you think's changed?### Assistant: I don't know to be honest. I really have no idea. It might have been the weeks away because I don't even really know what caused me to have all of the-- yeah. To have all of these problems with sleeping. So I don't really know what happened. I found that I've been a lot more tired. Falling asleep around about 10:30ish now for the past three weeks.### Human: Past three weeks.### Assistant: What?### Human: Any--### Assistant: Sorry. Past week and a half or something like that.


### Human: Past three weeks.### Assistant: What?### Human: Any--### Assistant: Sorry. Past week and a half or something like that.### Human: 1.5, yeah, weeks. And has it been that you're hearing things or seeing the shadow? Because last time you were talking about the nightlight, and you can turn that off.### Assistant: Yeah. I haven't really been seeing a lot of things in my room, and I haven't really been hearing things either.


### Human: Any--### Assistant: Sorry. Past week and a half or something like that.### Human: 1.5, yeah, weeks. And has it been that you're hearing things or seeing the shadow? Because last time you were talking about the nightlight, and you can turn that off.### Assistant: Yeah. I haven't really been seeing a lot of things in my room, and I haven't really been hearing things either.### Human: And what do you think that's about?### Assistant: I don't really know. So I've been normally going to bed at around about-- well, going into my room around about 10 o'clock, and I haven't.


### Human: 1.5, yeah, weeks. And has it been that you're hearing things or seeing the shadow? Because last time you were talking about the nightlight, and you can turn that off.### Assistant: Yeah. I haven't really been seeing a lot of things in my room, and I haven't really been hearing things either.### Human: And what do you think that's about?### Assistant: I don't really know. So I've been normally going to bed at around about-- well, going into my room around about 10 o'clock, and I haven't.### Human: Around 10:00 PM. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. And I have found out really, you should fall asleep. I haven't heard any noises, seen anything. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure why.


### Human: And what do you think that's about?### Assistant: I don't really know. So I've been normally going to bed at around about-- well, going into my room around about 10 o'clock, and I haven't.### Human: Around 10:00 PM. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. And I have found out really, you should fall asleep. I haven't heard any noises, seen anything. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure why.### Human: Are you feeling--### Assistant: Maybe because I've got a clear head. I don't know.


### Human: Around 10:00 PM. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. And I have found out really, you should fall asleep. I haven't heard any noises, seen anything. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure why.### Human: Are you feeling--### Assistant: Maybe because I've got a clear head. I don't know.### Human: Yeah. And what is it about that you feel you've got a clear head?### Assistant: I don't know. It just feels like--


### Human: Are you feeling--### Assistant: Maybe because I've got a clear head. I don't know.### Human: Yeah. And what is it about that you feel you've got a clear head?### Assistant: I don't know. It just feels like--### Human: That's a good thing. I'm just--### Assistant: --there's nothing on my mind. Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. And what is it about that you feel you've got a clear head?### Assistant: I don't know. It just feels like--### Human: That's a good thing. I'm just--### Assistant: --there's nothing on my mind. Yeah.### Human: Nothing on my mind. Yeah. That's what I'm hearing. Okay. I'll draw another piece of paper, such is my scribbles. So when you're increased feeling, stressed, or things on your mind, yeah? On your mind. Then that increases noises. Is that a-- I hear a yeah. Yeah?### Assistant: hours. The past week and a half, nothing's been really on my mind. So I can sleep. Wake up the next day. Go back to school. I've been enjoying school a lot more.


### Human: That's a good thing. I'm just--### Assistant: --there's nothing on my mind. Yeah.### Human: Nothing on my mind. Yeah. That's what I'm hearing. Okay. I'll draw another piece of paper, such is my scribbles. So when you're increased feeling, stressed, or things on your mind, yeah? On your mind. Then that increases noises. Is that a-- I hear a yeah. Yeah?### Assistant: hours. The past week and a half, nothing's been really on my mind. So I can sleep. Wake up the next day. Go back to school. I've been enjoying school a lot more.### Human: That's a huge difference because even two months ago you were like, "I'm not really enjoying it." What's made school--### Assistant: I think the fact that I'm now-- next year I'm doing it.


### Human: Nothing on my mind. Yeah. That's what I'm hearing. Okay. I'll draw another piece of paper, such is my scribbles. So when you're increased feeling, stressed, or things on your mind, yeah? On your mind. Then that increases noises. Is that a-- I hear a yeah. Yeah?### Assistant: hours. The past week and a half, nothing's been really on my mind. So I can sleep. Wake up the next day. Go back to school. I've been enjoying school a lot more.### Human: That's a huge difference because even two months ago you were like, "I'm not really enjoying it." What's made school--### Assistant: I think the fact that I'm now-- next year I'm doing it.### Human: Wow. What's made that decision ?--### Assistant: I guess the fact that I--


### Human: That's a huge difference because even two months ago you were like, "I'm not really enjoying it." What's made school--### Assistant: I think the fact that I'm now-- next year I'm doing it.### Human: Wow. What's made that decision ?--### Assistant: I guess the fact that I--### Human: --for next year?### Assistant: --don't like the whole idea of going to university or just doing-- I sort of learn a lot more practically. So if you put something in front of me, and it was a drawing or something like that, I'd more likely be able to understand that. If you just wrote it on the board or something like that. And I've sort of picked things up by watching people do them or doing it myself.


### Human: Wow. What's made that decision ?--### Assistant: I guess the fact that I--### Human: --for next year?### Assistant: --don't like the whole idea of going to university or just doing-- I sort of learn a lot more practically. So if you put something in front of me, and it was a drawing or something like that, I'd more likely be able to understand that. If you just wrote it on the board or something like that. And I've sort of picked things up by watching people do them or doing it myself.### Human: Yeah. So you're a more hands-on kind of person.### Assistant: And Mom said I've always been like that, and it's only recently that my math-- I'm enjoying my math because it's a more hands-on, more practical side of things. And now with this, I'm not just sitting in a classroom all the time. I'm actually getting outside, doing trade school on one day of the week.


### Human: --for next year?### Assistant: --don't like the whole idea of going to university or just doing-- I sort of learn a lot more practically. So if you put something in front of me, and it was a drawing or something like that, I'd more likely be able to understand that. If you just wrote it on the board or something like that. And I've sort of picked things up by watching people do them or doing it myself.### Human: Yeah. So you're a more hands-on kind of person.### Assistant: And Mom said I've always been like that, and it's only recently that my math-- I'm enjoying my math because it's a more hands-on, more practical side of things. And now with this, I'm not just sitting in a classroom all the time. I'm actually getting outside, doing trade school on one day of the week.### Human: Is that next year, or is this--### Assistant: This is next year.


### Human: Yeah. So you're a more hands-on kind of person.### Assistant: And Mom said I've always been like that, and it's only recently that my math-- I'm enjoying my math because it's a more hands-on, more practical side of things. And now with this, I'm not just sitting in a classroom all the time. I'm actually getting outside, doing trade school on one day of the week.### Human: Is that next year, or is this--### Assistant: This is next year.### Human: Next year. So just checking because you haven't done anything, you being in the usual school. Does your school do the same? You're going to look at me blankly and go what--### Assistant: I think they do. I think they do because there's a few kids that are doing well this year.


### Human: Is that next year, or is this--### Assistant: This is next year.### Human: Next year. So just checking because you haven't done anything, you being in the usual school. Does your school do the same? You're going to look at me blankly and go what--### Assistant: I think they do. I think they do because there's a few kids that are doing well this year.### Human: Yeah. And so what trade will you do, or you're thinking?### Assistant: I'm doing certificate two in plumbing, pre-apprenticeship.


### Human: Next year. So just checking because you haven't done anything, you being in the usual school. Does your school do the same? You're going to look at me blankly and go what--### Assistant: I think they do. I think they do because there's a few kids that are doing well this year.### Human: Yeah. And so what trade will you do, or you're thinking?### Assistant: I'm doing certificate two in plumbing, pre-apprenticeship.### Human: Certificate two plumbing. I'm writing it down so that I can memorize it because my way of remembering things is I write it down, it goes more in my brain. That's why you'll see me write a bit because it helps me remember. What's the choice of plumbing?### Assistant: Well, I did go through-- well, I didn't go through-- I went through a very long time of-- my mom's always been a nurse, and my dad was a nurse. And when we were born, he decided to change because they needed flexible time, so. Because Mom and Dad were both waking up extremely early.


### Human: Yeah. And so what trade will you do, or you're thinking?### Assistant: I'm doing certificate two in plumbing, pre-apprenticeship.### Human: Certificate two plumbing. I'm writing it down so that I can memorize it because my way of remembering things is I write it down, it goes more in my brain. That's why you'll see me write a bit because it helps me remember. What's the choice of plumbing?### Assistant: Well, I did go through-- well, I didn't go through-- I went through a very long time of-- my mom's always been a nurse, and my dad was a nurse. And when we were born, he decided to change because they needed flexible time, so. Because Mom and Dad were both waking up extremely early.### Human: So they were doing shift work.### Assistant: And Mom was doing nights. So Dad went out and did his-- his job was just building at this stage. When we were born, Mom would stay home with us when we were newborn, and then Dad would come home, Mom would go off and work nights at the local Hospital. So we've grown up with Mom being a nurse and Dad always being a builder. A carpenter. So dad and I were both very set on becoming carpenters or builders. Anything to do with wood because that's what we've grown up around. We've grow


### Human: Certificate two plumbing. I'm writing it down so that I can memorize it because my way of remembering things is I write it down, it goes more in my brain. That's why you'll see me write a bit because it helps me remember. What's the choice of plumbing?### Assistant: Well, I did go through-- well, I didn't go through-- I went through a very long time of-- my mom's always been a nurse, and my dad was a nurse. And when we were born, he decided to change because they needed flexible time, so. Because Mom and Dad were both waking up extremely early.### Human: So they were doing shift work.### Assistant: And Mom was doing nights. So Dad went out and did his-- his job was just building at this stage. When we were born, Mom would stay home with us when we were newborn, and then Dad would come home, Mom would go off and work nights at the local Hospital. So we've grown up with Mom being a nurse and Dad always being a builder. A carpenter. So dad and I were both very set on becoming carpenters or builders. Anything to do with wood because that's what we've grown up around. We've grow### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: So they were doing shift work.### Assistant: And Mom was doing nights. So Dad went out and did his-- his job was just building at this stage. When we were born, Mom would stay home with us when we were newborn, and then Dad would come home, Mom would go off and work nights at the local Hospital. So we've grown up with Mom being a nurse and Dad always being a builder. A carpenter. So dad and I were both very set on becoming carpenters or builders. Anything to do with wood because that's what we've grown up around. We've grow### Human: ### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant: And this is certificate three. Is that--


### Human: And why plumbing or the sparkie or carpentry? What is it that--### Assistant: I don't know. I found it just that bit more interesting, and obviously, I wanted to sit and look at something different. Obviously, it goes plumbing, carpentry, sparkie on that side of things.### Human: Yeah. Because I'm hearing bricklayer wouldn't be for you because it would be quite routine. Doing the same thing, yeah?### Assistant: So it sort of-- and so yeah, Dad told me to go out, look at some different things, that sort of thing, and I sort of looked at plumbing, and I saw it is sort of interesting. "Oh, what's that about?" And I was speaking to one of the people that-- because our school had some people come out and talk to us about some jobs, and sort of spoke to me about it, and sort of I found it interesting, and all the stuff you can do. In fact you can do gutters, sewage, fire sprinklers, normal household plum### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: Yeah. Because I'm hearing bricklayer wouldn't be for you because it would be quite routine. Doing the same thing, yeah?### Assistant: So it sort of-- and so yeah, Dad told me to go out, look at some different things, that sort of thing, and I sort of looked at plumbing, and I saw it is sort of interesting. "Oh, what's that about?" And I was speaking to one of the people that-- because our school had some people come out and talk to us about some jobs, and sort of spoke to me about it, and sort of I found it interesting, and all the stuff you can do. In fact you can do gutters, sewage, fire sprinklers, normal household plum### Human: ### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: And this is certificate three. Is that--### Assistant: So--### Human: --the one you're doing next year, is that right, or is it the one--### Assistant: Next year it'll be certificate two.### Human: Certificate two. Yeah. I did write two there, see? I wrote it down and didn't go into the memory.### Assistant: Yeah. So I'll be doing certificate two pre-apprenticeship--


### Human: --the one you're doing next year, is that right, or is it the one--### Assistant: Next year it'll be certificate two.### Human: Certificate two. Yeah. I did write two there, see? I wrote it down and didn't go into the memory.### Assistant: Yeah. So I'll be doing certificate two pre-apprenticeship--### Human: Pre-apprenticeship. Yeah.### Assistant: --next year, and I'm pretty sure-- yeah. Sorry. Next year's year 11.


### Human: Certificate two. Yeah. I did write two there, see? I wrote it down and didn't go into the memory.### Assistant: Yeah. So I'll be doing certificate two pre-apprenticeship--### Human: Pre-apprenticeship. Yeah.### Assistant: --next year, and I'm pretty sure-- yeah. Sorry. Next year's year 11.### Human: Next year's year 11. You have got it right.### Assistant: Year 12 I think we do two again.


### Human: Pre-apprenticeship. Yeah.### Assistant: --next year, and I'm pretty sure-- yeah. Sorry. Next year's year 11.### Human: Next year's year 11. You have got it right.### Assistant: Year 12 I think we do two again.### Human: Finish it off or so. Is it over two years?### Assistant: I think it's a two-year course. And then I can go off to london to get a certificate three.


### Human: Next year's year 11. You have got it right.### Assistant: Year 12 I think we do two again.### Human: Finish it off or so. Is it over two years?### Assistant: I think it's a two-year course. And then I can go off to london to get a certificate three.### Human: Which is? Which is it? - that does it here, or is it--### Assistant: There's Melbourne Polytechnic. So they have one in Preston, Bundoora.


### Human: Finish it off or so. Is it over two years?### Assistant: I think it's a two-year course. And then I can go off to london to get a certificate three.### Human: Which is? Which is it? - that does it here, or is it--### Assistant: There's Melbourne Polytechnic. So they have one in Preston, Bundoora.### Human: There's another one somewhere. Yeah.### Assistant: Somewhere else. And you can go off and get a certificate three, and that's what most employers expect. So--


### Human: Which is? Which is it? - that does it here, or is it--### Assistant: There's Melbourne Polytechnic. So they have one in Preston, Bundoora.### Human: There's another one somewhere. Yeah.### Assistant: Somewhere else. And you can go off and get a certificate three, and that's what most employers expect. So--### Human: That's the standard. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. That's the standard. So if someone was certificate two, and you're certificate three, you'd get looked at over them because they see you have more experience. So yeah, I think it's two-year. So I'd do the certificate two in plumbing over the two years until I finish year 12, and then I can go off, and I can do step three, step four, step five, and that's it.


### Human: There's another one somewhere. Yeah.### Assistant: Somewhere else. And you can go off and get a certificate three, and that's what most employers expect. So--### Human: That's the standard. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. That's the standard. So if someone was certificate two, and you're certificate three, you'd get looked at over them because they see you have more experience. So yeah, I think it's two-year. So I'd do the certificate two in plumbing over the two years until I finish year 12, and then I can go off, and I can do step three, step four, step five, and that's it.### Human: Five or is to six, you said? You said five.### Assistant: I think it only goes up to-- I think it's five. Yeah.


### Human: That's the standard. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. That's the standard. So if someone was certificate two, and you're certificate three, you'd get looked at over them because they see you have more experience. So yeah, I think it's two-year. So I'd do the certificate two in plumbing over the two years until I finish year 12, and then I can go off, and I can do step three, step four, step five, and that's it.### Human: Five or is to six, you said? You said five.### Assistant: I think it only goes up to-- I think it's five. Yeah.### Human: Five. I think it's five years. Good job with the math.### Assistant: Yeah. So it goes all the way up to certificate five. So I can do certificate-- I think there's only four-month courses, and extremely--


### Human: Five or is to six, you said? You said five.### Assistant: I think it only goes up to-- I think it's five. Yeah.### Human: Five. I think it's five years. Good job with the math.### Assistant: Yeah. So it goes all the way up to certificate five. So I can do certificate-- I think there's only four-month courses, and extremely--### Human: Oh, so it's not very long. Yeah.### Assistant: --quick compared to other jobs. I was so like, "Oh, I don't want to sit in--" because my cousin's doing nursing, and she's-- doesn't go in a lot, and it's mostly online, but she's doing it-- I think it's a two-year course. And my cousin did ag science, and he did--


### Human: Five. I think it's five years. Good job with the math.### Assistant: Yeah. So it goes all the way up to certificate five. So I can do certificate-- I think there's only four-month courses, and extremely--### Human: Oh, so it's not very long. Yeah.### Assistant: --quick compared to other jobs. I was so like, "Oh, I don't want to sit in--" because my cousin's doing nursing, and she's-- doesn't go in a lot, and it's mostly online, but she's doing it-- I think it's a two-year course. And my cousin did ag science, and he did--### Human: Agriculture science. Yeah.### Assistant: --three years. And I also had four kids that have gone into university. So four cousins that have gone into university.


### Human: Oh, so it's not very long. Yeah.### Assistant: --quick compared to other jobs. I was so like, "Oh, I don't want to sit in--" because my cousin's doing nursing, and she's-- doesn't go in a lot, and it's mostly online, but she's doing it-- I think it's a two-year course. And my cousin did ag science, and he did--### Human: Agriculture science. Yeah.### Assistant: --three years. And I also had four kids that have gone into university. So four cousins that have gone into university.### Human: Yeah. I'm like, "Four kids. Yeah."### Assistant: So one's doing forensic science, and she's only just gone to uni. And also one that's done stuff to do with genes and--


### Human: Agriculture science. Yeah.### Assistant: --three years. And I also had four kids that have gone into university. So four cousins that have gone into university.### Human: Yeah. I'm like, "Four kids. Yeah."### Assistant: So one's doing forensic science, and she's only just gone to uni. And also one that's done stuff to do with genes and--### Human: Genetics.### Assistant: Genetics. Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. I'm like, "Four kids. Yeah."### Assistant: So one's doing forensic science, and she's only just gone to uni. And also one that's done stuff to do with genes and--### Human: Genetics.### Assistant: Genetics. Yeah.### Human: Something under biology class.### Assistant: It's something under that sort of-- I'm not 100% sure. And she's done a couple of years. I think she did two, and she has to still go back and do more because she found out that she didn't do enough subjects. So she had to go back and do summer school this year to finish off, and then she can look at getting a job. So I was sort of like, "I don't want to sit there for two, three years doing that sort of stuff." So when I found out they're only four-month courses, if I was to get all the way


### Human: Genetics.### Assistant: Genetics. Yeah.### Human: Something under biology class.### Assistant: It's something under that sort of-- I'm not 100% sure. And she's done a couple of years. I think she did two, and she has to still go back and do more because she found out that she didn't do enough subjects. So she had to go back and do summer school this year to finish off, and then she can look at getting a job. So I was sort of like, "I don't want to sit there for two, three years doing that sort of stuff." So when I found out they're only four-month courses, if I was to get all the way### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: Something under biology class.### Assistant: It's something under that sort of-- I'm not 100% sure. And she's done a couple of years. I think she did two, and she has to still go back and do more because she found out that she didn't do enough subjects. So she had to go back and do summer school this year to finish off, and then she can look at getting a job. So I was sort of like, "I don't want to sit there for two, three years doing that sort of stuff." So when I found out they're only four-month courses, if I was to get all the way### Human: ### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: And I can see you're really excited about this. Yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. I could even do-- so I can even go up to certificate four and do another month, and then have two, three years and go, or have a year and then go, "You know what? I want to go off and do all the way up to certificate five," and then that's another eight months. So they're not long.### Human: And it sounds like for you, that's what you're after. Something not too long.### Assistant: Yeah. Something that's not too long because I hate being in a classroom, and I've always been outdoors.### Human: And the--### Assistant: With sport, that sort of thing. So--


### Human: And it sounds like for you, that's what you're after. Something not too long.### Assistant: Yeah. Something that's not too long because I hate being in a classroom, and I've always been outdoors.### Human: And the--### Assistant: With sport, that sort of thing. So--### Human: And is footie, as we have it written down here, is that where it is now, or has that changed now? ..### Assistant: Coming into finals, Wednesdays and Fridays and Sundays will all be free. So from--


### Human: And the--### Assistant: With sport, that sort of thing. So--### Human: And is footie, as we have it written down here, is that where it is now, or has that changed now? ..### Assistant: Coming into finals, Wednesdays and Fridays and Sundays will all be free. So from--### Human: Wednesdays and Fridays. Yeah. That's a big change.### Assistant: Yeah. So Sundays will be all-- yeah. So Sundays will be free. Friday after school will be free. And Wednesday after school will be free. So basically, I go from doing heaps of stuff to doing nothing.


### Human: And is footie, as we have it written down here, is that where it is now, or has that changed now? ..### Assistant: Coming into finals, Wednesdays and Fridays and Sundays will all be free. So from--### Human: Wednesdays and Fridays. Yeah. That's a big change.### Assistant: Yeah. So Sundays will be all-- yeah. So Sundays will be free. Friday after school will be free. And Wednesday after school will be free. So basically, I go from doing heaps of stuff to doing nothing.### Human: Yeah. So what's that going to be like?### Assistant: And then Tuesday's coming for Calder Cannons, I'm pretty sure.


### Human: Wednesdays and Fridays. Yeah. That's a big change.### Assistant: Yeah. So Sundays will be all-- yeah. So Sundays will be free. Friday after school will be free. And Wednesday after school will be free. So basically, I go from doing heaps of stuff to doing nothing.### Human: Yeah. So what's that going to be like?### Assistant: And then Tuesday's coming for Calder Cannons, I'm pretty sure.### Human: So we can talk.### Assistant: If I get invited back to Calder Cannons, I can do the--


### Human: Yeah. So what's that going to be like?### Assistant: And then Tuesday's coming for Calder Cannons, I'm pretty sure.### Human: So we can talk.### Assistant: If I get invited back to Calder Cannons, I can do the--### Human: Is that likely, that you'd get invited back?### Assistant: Depends how I went. Because we did little practice matches against the Knights and all that sort of stuff. So other things, like the Calder Cannons. So we went off and did matches against them, just here in the city. And so it'll either be the fact that if I did well enough, I'll be invited back, and if I didn't, obviously, I'll just continue at college level football. And then stick around to next year, and then--


### Human: So we can talk.### Assistant: If I get invited back to Calder Cannons, I can do the--### Human: Is that likely, that you'd get invited back?### Assistant: Depends how I went. Because we did little practice matches against the Knights and all that sort of stuff. So other things, like the Calder Cannons. So we went off and did matches against them, just here in the city. And so it'll either be the fact that if I did well enough, I'll be invited back, and if I didn't, obviously, I'll just continue at college level football. And then stick around to next year, and then--### Human: And you're okay with either if it happens.### Assistant: I guess if they are cutting you, it's for a reason. It's not the fact that, "Oh, we're cutting you--" they're just going to cut you. oh, and that gives you something to improve on. So if they go, "Oh, your fitness wasn't up to scratch," or, "Your kicking wasn't up to scratch," I can spend from the end of footie season all the way up to next year's footie season trying to get them on track. So that means that if I'm going out and kicking the football more often, or I'm going out and


### Human: Is that likely, that you'd get invited back?### Assistant: Depends how I went. Because we did little practice matches against the Knights and all that sort of stuff. So other things, like the Calder Cannons. So we went off and did matches against them, just here in the city. And so it'll either be the fact that if I did well enough, I'll be invited back, and if I didn't, obviously, I'll just continue at college level football. And then stick around to next year, and then--### Human: And you're okay with either if it happens.### Assistant: I guess if they are cutting you, it's for a reason. It's not the fact that, "Oh, we're cutting you--" they're just going to cut you. oh, and that gives you something to improve on. So if they go, "Oh, your fitness wasn't up to scratch," or, "Your kicking wasn't up to scratch," I can spend from the end of footie season all the way up to next year's footie season trying to get them on track. So that means that if I'm going out and kicking the football more often, or I'm going out and### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: And you're okay with either if it happens.### Assistant: I guess if they are cutting you, it's for a reason. It's not the fact that, "Oh, we're cutting you--" they're just going to cut you. oh, and that gives you something to improve on. So if they go, "Oh, your fitness wasn't up to scratch," or, "Your kicking wasn't up to scratch," I can spend from the end of footie season all the way up to next year's footie season trying to get them on track. So that means that if I'm going out and kicking the football more often, or I'm going out and### Human: ### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: You're getting such a nice way of, "So how can I improve if they haven't chosen me?"### Assistant: So it's not the fact that they're just going to get kicked out. "You're kicked out now. See you. We won't have you back. You may never come back." But if you try hard enough and you have the motivation to do it, you're most likely to come back.### Human: And I'm hearing you definitely have that motivation, and a really nice, "Okay. They didn't choose me for this reason, but if I improve, they could choose me." Such a nice way to think about it.### Assistant: Yeah. So it just all depends. It'll come down to, obviously, how I went in the normal football season. They'll look at how I went in there.### Human: Yeah. And how is your-- you had an infection. Have you been able to play, or how is that all going?### Assistant: That's technically fine because it's healed up.


### Human: And I'm hearing you definitely have that motivation, and a really nice, "Okay. They didn't choose me for this reason, but if I improve, they could choose me." Such a nice way to think about it.### Assistant: Yeah. So it just all depends. It'll come down to, obviously, how I went in the normal football season. They'll look at how I went in there.### Human: Yeah. And how is your-- you had an infection. Have you been able to play, or how is that all going?### Assistant: That's technically fine because it's healed up.### Human: Because you said Mom got some tests and stuff done.### Assistant: Yeah. Well, it's perfectly fine now, but it was--


### Human: Yeah. And how is your-- you had an infection. Have you been able to play, or how is that all going?### Assistant: That's technically fine because it's healed up.### Human: Because you said Mom got some tests and stuff done.### Assistant: Yeah. Well, it's perfectly fine now, but it was--### Human: n. Oh.### Assistant: But yeah, it's perfectly fine now.


### Human: Because you said Mom got some tests and stuff done.### Assistant: Yeah. Well, it's perfectly fine now, but it was--### Human: n. Oh.### Assistant: But yeah, it's perfectly fine now.### Human: You can see that the skin's-- yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. That's where it was, right under the ankle, and that's all the skin that's all dried off.


### Human: n. Oh.### Assistant: But yeah, it's perfectly fine now.### Human: You can see that the skin's-- yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. That's where it was, right under the ankle, and that's all the skin that's all dried off.### Human: It'll slowly grow back.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll always have a flat ankle now. I'll always have a bit of skin missing on the end of my ankle, so it won't be fully-- but yeah, it's healed and it's okay to touch.


### Human: You can see that the skin's-- yeah.### Assistant: Yeah. That's where it was, right under the ankle, and that's all the skin that's all dried off.### Human: It'll slowly grow back.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll always have a flat ankle now. I'll always have a bit of skin missing on the end of my ankle, so it won't be fully-- but yeah, it's healed and it's okay to touch.### Human: That's good because nothing worse than you do that and it really hurts.### Assistant: Oh, but at that stage I couldn't-- this ankle here, that amount of pressure then was absolutely killing because it would spread out over my ankle like that.


### Human: It'll slowly grow back.### Assistant: Yeah. I'll always have a flat ankle now. I'll always have a bit of skin missing on the end of my ankle, so it won't be fully-- but yeah, it's healed and it's okay to touch.### Human: That's good because nothing worse than you do that and it really hurts.### Assistant: Oh, but at that stage I couldn't-- this ankle here, that amount of pressure then was absolutely killing because it would spread out over my ankle like that.### Human: It'd be very painful.### Assistant: And I couldn't walk for-- I found it hard to walk because I would be walking with my foot like that so the pressure was off the leg. It was all--


### Human: That's good because nothing worse than you do that and it really hurts.### Assistant: Oh, but at that stage I couldn't-- this ankle here, that amount of pressure then was absolutely killing because it would spread out over my ankle like that.### Human: It'd be very painful.### Assistant: And I couldn't walk for-- I found it hard to walk because I would be walking with my foot like that so the pressure was off the leg. It was all--### Human: Not your usual way of walking.### Assistant: Yeah. So I'd be walking like-- I'd be walking with-- instead of walking like that like you normally do, I'd walk sort of--


### Human: It'd be very painful.### Assistant: And I couldn't walk for-- I found it hard to walk because I would be walking with my foot like that so the pressure was off the leg. It was all--### Human: Not your usual way of walking.### Assistant: Yeah. So I'd be walking like-- I'd be walking with-- instead of walking like that like you normally do, I'd walk sort of--### Human: m. Yeah.### Assistant: Invert my foot in so the pressure wasn't exactly on the inside of my shoe. So it was extremely hard with running as well. Now I can run perfectly fine in boots and that sort of stuff. So I guess, yeah, it's gotten a lot better from what it was.


### Human: Not your usual way of walking.### Assistant: Yeah. So I'd be walking like-- I'd be walking with-- instead of walking like that like you normally do, I'd walk sort of--### Human: m. Yeah.### Assistant: Invert my foot in so the pressure wasn't exactly on the inside of my shoe. So it was extremely hard with running as well. Now I can run perfectly fine in boots and that sort of stuff. So I guess, yeah, it's gotten a lot better from what it was.### Human: Even in the two weeks we're seeing you, it sounds like it's improved so much.### Assistant: It's improved a heck of a lot, considering when it first happened and the files that Mom had of it. And now, the fact that it's gotten to where you wouldn't even know it was there.


### Human: m. Yeah.### Assistant: Invert my foot in so the pressure wasn't exactly on the inside of my shoe. So it was extremely hard with running as well. Now I can run perfectly fine in boots and that sort of stuff. So I guess, yeah, it's gotten a lot better from what it was.### Human: Even in the two weeks we're seeing you, it sounds like it's improved so much.### Assistant: It's improved a heck of a lot, considering when it first happened and the files that Mom had of it. And now, the fact that it's gotten to where you wouldn't even know it was there.### Human: And how are things going with Mom at the moment?### Assistant: All right.


### Human: Even in the two weeks we're seeing you, it sounds like it's improved so much.### Assistant: It's improved a heck of a lot, considering when it first happened and the files that Mom had of it. And now, the fact that it's gotten to where you wouldn't even know it was there.### Human: And how are things going with Mom at the moment?### Assistant: All right.### Human: All right. What's changed that it's all right?### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure to be honest. I sort of just haven't bothered to-- I sort of just-- when I get home Mom's like-- don't do a lot of stuff with me anymore. It's sort of steering away from her. Not too much. The fact that she feels like we're totally trying to ignore her and not doing anything with her, but sort of keeping her out of-- sort of it's more her and I doing stuff than rather Mom.


### Human: And how are things going with Mom at the moment?### Assistant: All right.### Human: All right. What's changed that it's all right?### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure to be honest. I sort of just haven't bothered to-- I sort of just-- when I get home Mom's like-- don't do a lot of stuff with me anymore. It's sort of steering away from her. Not too much. The fact that she feels like we're totally trying to ignore her and not doing anything with her, but sort of keeping her out of-- sort of it's more her and I doing stuff than rather Mom.### Human: What do you mean? Just so I'm understanding.### Assistant: So it would just be mom and I on the computers, and it wouldn't be exactly Mom being around us. That sort of thing. So it was only just mom and I sort of not confrontating with Mom as much. So--


### Human: All right. What's changed that it's all right?### Assistant: I'm not 100% sure to be honest. I sort of just haven't bothered to-- I sort of just-- when I get home Mom's like-- don't do a lot of stuff with me anymore. It's sort of steering away from her. Not too much. The fact that she feels like we're totally trying to ignore her and not doing anything with her, but sort of keeping her out of-- sort of it's more her and I doing stuff than rather Mom.### Human: What do you mean? Just so I'm understanding.### Assistant: So it would just be mom and I on the computers, and it wouldn't be exactly Mom being around us. That sort of thing. So it was only just mom and I sort of not confrontating with Mom as much. So--### Human: And how are you not confrontating ??### Assistant: By sort of not talking a lot to Mom as I used to. Trying to avoid me saying something, or me getting angry at Mom or something like that. So sort of avoiding that side of things.


### Human: What do you mean? Just so I'm understanding.### Assistant: So it would just be mom and I on the computers, and it wouldn't be exactly Mom being around us. That sort of thing. So it was only just mom and I sort of not confrontating with Mom as much. So--### Human: And how are you not confrontating ??### Assistant: By sort of not talking a lot to Mom as I used to. Trying to avoid me saying something, or me getting angry at Mom or something like that. So sort of avoiding that side of things.### Human: And is that the way you'd like things to be? Would you like them to be different?### Assistant: At the moment it's working, so, and I'm a lot happier because of it.


### Human: And how are you not confrontating ??### Assistant: By sort of not talking a lot to Mom as I used to. Trying to avoid me saying something, or me getting angry at Mom or something like that. So sort of avoiding that side of things.### Human: And is that the way you'd like things to be? Would you like them to be different?### Assistant: At the moment it's working, so, and I'm a lot happier because of it.### Human: Do you think it'll work in the long term, or would you like it to look different?### Assistant: I guess it'll work till the end of the year at least. And then obviously, we've got to address what we do then. Whether or not we keep being with Mom as much as we are because at that stage, things don't exactly get taken to court.


### Human: And is that the way you'd like things to be? Would you like them to be different?### Assistant: At the moment it's working, so, and I'm a lot happier because of it.### Human: Do you think it'll work in the long term, or would you like it to look different?### Assistant: I guess it'll work till the end of the year at least. And then obviously, we've got to address what we do then. Whether or not we keep being with Mom as much as we are because at that stage, things don't exactly get taken to court.### Human: Yeah. Because you're 16 then. Yeah.### Assistant: Because we're 16. That's my understanding of it at the moment. That and I sort of don't want to take it to court because we're sort of getting to the point where we can make our decisions. That sort of stuff, so.


### Human: Do you think it'll work in the long term, or would you like it to look different?### Assistant: I guess it'll work till the end of the year at least. And then obviously, we've got to address what we do then. Whether or not we keep being with Mom as much as we are because at that stage, things don't exactly get taken to court.### Human: Yeah. Because you're 16 then. Yeah.### Assistant: Because we're 16. That's my understanding of it at the moment. That and I sort of don't want to take it to court because we're sort of getting to the point where we can make our decisions. That sort of stuff, so.### Human: And how would you like things to look like with Mom? I know that's a big question.### Assistant: Sort of seeing her for a few days, and spending that time without-- I guess, without it being annoying or getting annoyed by Mom.


### Human: Yeah. Because you're 16 then. Yeah.### Assistant: Because we're 16. That's my understanding of it at the moment. That and I sort of don't want to take it to court because we're sort of getting to the point where we can make our decisions. That sort of stuff, so.### Human: And how would you like things to look like with Mom? I know that's a big question.### Assistant: Sort of seeing her for a few days, and spending that time without-- I guess, without it being annoying or getting annoyed by Mom.### Human: Without being annoyed by Mom. Yeah.### Assistant: So being happy while we're there, instead of being miserable. That sort of stuff.


### Human: And how would you like things to look like with Mom? I know that's a big question.### Assistant: Sort of seeing her for a few days, and spending that time without-- I guess, without it being annoying or getting annoyed by Mom.### Human: Without being annoyed by Mom. Yeah.### Assistant: So being happy while we're there, instead of being miserable. That sort of stuff.### Human: That sounds like a really lovely thing that you'd want. Are you planning to have the family session this week?### Assistant: I have no idea. Mom still hasn't spoken to me about the family session at all. So I don't know if it's happening at all.


### Human: Without being annoyed by Mom. Yeah.### Assistant: So being happy while we're there, instead of being miserable. That sort of stuff.### Human: That sounds like a really lovely thing that you'd want. Are you planning to have the family session this week?### Assistant: I have no idea. Mom still hasn't spoken to me about the family session at all. So I don't know if it's happening at all.### Human: What are your thoughts about it? I can definitely check if it's still on.### Assistant: I'm not exactly keen on it.


### Human: That sounds like a really lovely thing that you'd want. Are you planning to have the family session this week?### Assistant: I have no idea. Mom still hasn't spoken to me about the family session at all. So I don't know if it's happening at all.### Human: What are your thoughts about it? I can definitely check if it's still on.### Assistant: I'm not exactly keen on it.### Human: Yeah. What makes you not keen on it?### Assistant: Because I know she won't listen because we've done a lot of stuff in the past with Mom and Dad, and she hasn't exactly listened.


### Human: What are your thoughts about it? I can definitely check if it's still on.### Assistant: I'm not exactly keen on it.### Human: Yeah. What makes you not keen on it?### Assistant: Because I know she won't listen because we've done a lot of stuff in the past with Mom and Dad, and she hasn't exactly listened.### Human: And how has she--### Assistant: She doesn't because that's just Mom. And our uncle, which is Mom's brother, knows that she's never going to-- she's never going to listen because if something is her idea, she's used to it. So that's what--


### Human: Yeah. What makes you not keen on it?### Assistant: Because I know she won't listen because we've done a lot of stuff in the past with Mom and Dad, and she hasn't exactly listened.### Human: And how has she--### Assistant: She doesn't because that's just Mom. And our uncle, which is Mom's brother, knows that she's never going to-- she's never going to listen because if something is her idea, she's used to it. So that's what--### Human: She died.### Assistant: That's just her, and he said that she's not going to change for a very, very long time, until she ends up losing something that-- - or us going in different direction away from them. She may end up listening or figuring out. But she said at the moment she may only realize that until she's a lot older, when she looks back at what happened.


### Human: And how has she--### Assistant: She doesn't because that's just Mom. And our uncle, which is Mom's brother, knows that she's never going to-- she's never going to listen because if something is her idea, she's used to it. So that's what--### Human: She died.### Assistant: That's just her, and he said that she's not going to change for a very, very long time, until she ends up losing something that-- - or us going in different direction away from them. She may end up listening or figuring out. But she said at the moment she may only realize that until she's a lot older, when she looks back at what happened.### Human: And would it be helpful too if you had the session on Thursday, to plan together what you'd like to say?### Assistant: : I'm just not keen on talking to Mom.


### Human: She died.### Assistant: That's just her, and he said that she's not going to change for a very, very long time, until she ends up losing something that-- - or us going in different direction away from them. She may end up listening or figuring out. But she said at the moment she may only realize that until she's a lot older, when she looks back at what happened.### Human: And would it be helpful too if you had the session on Thursday, to plan together what you'd like to say?### Assistant: : I'm just not keen on talking to Mom.### Human: Yeah. Because you're saying Mom won't listen. Is that--### Assistant: Yeah. And just sort of I don't like having these sorts of conversations with Mom.


### Human: And would it be helpful too if you had the session on Thursday, to plan together what you'd like to say?### Assistant: : I'm just not keen on talking to Mom.### Human: Yeah. Because you're saying Mom won't listen. Is that--### Assistant: Yeah. And just sort of I don't like having these sorts of conversations with Mom.### Human: Would it be--### Assistant: Because it always ends here.


### Human: Yeah. Because you're saying Mom won't listen. Is that--### Assistant: Yeah. And just sort of I don't like having these sorts of conversations with Mom.### Human: Would it be--### Assistant: Because it always ends here.### Human: --helpful to say that's the topic of conversation? To go, "I'm really not comfortable because I feel nothing's going to change." Is that something you could say?### Assistant: To be honest, I don't know.


### Human: Would it be--### Assistant: Because it always ends here.### Human: --helpful to say that's the topic of conversation? To go, "I'm really not comfortable because I feel nothing's going to change." Is that something you could say?### Assistant: To be honest, I don't know.### Human: Because that says a lot to me, you saying that will-- "I currently don't know if there's any point in talking because I don't feel things can change." That's a really hard thing to say. Totally your choice of what you will say, but I thought we could use the space to practice that to see what you feel comfortable-- how it sounds.### Assistant: Yeah. It's just at the moment I might rethink it. It's just at the moment I sort of just want to keep going because I know that we'll start talking about stuff, and I'll either get angry or-- and then I'll end up being unhappy. And that's what sort of happens--


### Human: --helpful to say that's the topic of conversation? To go, "I'm really not comfortable because I feel nothing's going to change." Is that something you could say?### Assistant: To be honest, I don't know.### Human: Because that says a lot to me, you saying that will-- "I currently don't know if there's any point in talking because I don't feel things can change." That's a really hard thing to say. Totally your choice of what you will say, but I thought we could use the space to practice that to see what you feel comfortable-- how it sounds.### Assistant: Yeah. It's just at the moment I might rethink it. It's just at the moment I sort of just want to keep going because I know that we'll start talking about stuff, and I'll either get angry or-- and then I'll end up being unhappy. And that's what sort of happens--### Human: As in here right now, or in a session with Mom?### Assistant: In a session with Mom because I've spoken to Mom in the past, and it's taken me weeks, even longer to get over it because I--


### Human: Because that says a lot to me, you saying that will-- "I currently don't know if there's any point in talking because I don't feel things can change." That's a really hard thing to say. Totally your choice of what you will say, but I thought we could use the space to practice that to see what you feel comfortable-- how it sounds.### Assistant: Yeah. It's just at the moment I might rethink it. It's just at the moment I sort of just want to keep going because I know that we'll start talking about stuff, and I'll either get angry or-- and then I'll end up being unhappy. And that's what sort of happens--### Human: As in here right now, or in a session with Mom?### Assistant: In a session with Mom because I've spoken to Mom in the past, and it's taken me weeks, even longer to get over it because I--### Human: So--### Assistant: --get so angry, or--


### Human: As in here right now, or in a session with Mom?### Assistant: In a session with Mom because I've spoken to Mom in the past, and it's taken me weeks, even longer to get over it because I--### Human: So--### Assistant: --get so angry, or--### Human: Can we do a hypothetical? If you have the session on Thursday, you start feeling angry, what can you do? Because I'm hearing that's what you don't want to happen. So if those feelings-- what happens in your body when you start feeling angry? Because that's the first step to recognize.### Assistant: I end up don't listening. Not--


### Human: So--### Assistant: --get so angry, or--### Human: Can we do a hypothetical? If you have the session on Thursday, you start feeling angry, what can you do? Because I'm hearing that's what you don't want to happen. So if those feelings-- what happens in your body when you start feeling angry? Because that's the first step to recognize.### Assistant: I end up don't listening. Not--### Human: Yeah. Not listening. Yeah. Is there anything that goes on in your body?### Assistant: Sort of just bottle it up.


### Human: Can we do a hypothetical? If you have the session on Thursday, you start feeling angry, what can you do? Because I'm hearing that's what you don't want to happen. So if those feelings-- what happens in your body when you start feeling angry? Because that's the first step to recognize.### Assistant: I end up don't listening. Not--### Human: Yeah. Not listening. Yeah. Is there anything that goes on in your body?### Assistant: Sort of just bottle it up.### Human: Yeah. So if you start feeling you're bottling it up, what can you do in that situation?### Assistant: I don't know.


### Human: Yeah. Not listening. Yeah. Is there anything that goes on in your body?### Assistant: Sort of just bottle it up.### Human: Yeah. So if you start feeling you're bottling it up, what can you do in that situation?### Assistant: I don't know.### Human: What do you think would be helpful? So what's important for me is that you can feel that you're okay in a session so that you're not feeling then not okay for a few weeks. And I can pass this information on to her also, so she knows. So I can throw out a few ideas if that'll be helpful.### Assistant: Yeah.


### Human: Yeah. So if you start feeling you're bottling it up, what can you do in that situation?### Assistant: I don't know.### Human: What do you think would be helpful? So what's important for me is that you can feel that you're okay in a session so that you're not feeling then not okay for a few weeks. And I can pass this information on to her also, so she knows. So I can throw out a few ideas if that'll be helpful.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Yeah. So it could be you go, "I'm not feeling okay. I'm going to walk out for a break." You could have a system of a word or a card that you put down, saying, "I need a break," or, "I'm not feeling comfortable." What do you think could work?### Assistant: I don't know.


### Human: What do you think would be helpful? So what's important for me is that you can feel that you're okay in a session so that you're not feeling then not okay for a few weeks. And I can pass this information on to her also, so she knows. So I can throw out a few ideas if that'll be helpful.### Assistant: Yeah.### Human: Yeah. So it could be you go, "I'm not feeling okay. I'm going to walk out for a break." You could have a system of a word or a card that you put down, saying, "I need a break," or, "I'm not feeling comfortable." What do you think could work?### Assistant: I don't know.### Human: I can see in your face now, "I'm really not comfortable with this session," and I'm pretty sure it is booked in. It'd be good to either chat to Mom about it, or if you are coming in here-- because I want you to feel okay in the session.### Assistant: Yeah. Mom at the moment is the fact that she doesn't see harm. She sees it as something wrong with us, not with her, and she sort of does this sort of stuff helping us, but the fact that she actually should be getting help for herself. The reason why we did headspace was to get help for us from all that sort of stuff, and yeah, but she never did anything for her. And that's what was really-- the problem was the fact that the way she was dealing with stuff when we spoke about Dad when we were


### Human: Yeah. So it could be you go, "I'm not feeling okay. I'm going to walk out for a break." You could have a system of a word or a card that you put down, saying, "I need a break," or, "I'm not feeling comfortable." What do you think could work?### Assistant: I don't know.### Human: I can see in your face now, "I'm really not comfortable with this session," and I'm pretty sure it is booked in. It'd be good to either chat to Mom about it, or if you are coming in here-- because I want you to feel okay in the session.### Assistant: Yeah. Mom at the moment is the fact that she doesn't see harm. She sees it as something wrong with us, not with her, and she sort of does this sort of stuff helping us, but the fact that she actually should be getting help for herself. The reason why we did headspace was to get help for us from all that sort of stuff, and yeah, but she never did anything for her. And that's what was really-- the problem was the fact that the way she was dealing with stuff when we spoke about Dad when we were### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: I can see in your face now, "I'm really not comfortable with this session," and I'm pretty sure it is booked in. It'd be good to either chat to Mom about it, or if you are coming in here-- because I want you to feel okay in the session.### Assistant: Yeah. Mom at the moment is the fact that she doesn't see harm. She sees it as something wrong with us, not with her, and she sort of does this sort of stuff helping us, but the fact that she actually should be getting help for herself. The reason why we did headspace was to get help for us from all that sort of stuff, and yeah, but she never did anything for her. And that's what was really-- the problem was the fact that the way she was dealing with stuff when we spoke about Dad when we were### Human: ### Assistant: ### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: And do you think you have a problem?### Assistant: I don't see myself as having an attitude problem whenever-- all that sort of stuff that she says that I do. She says I have an attitude problem, or it's because of someone--### Human: What do you mean--### Assistant: --else, but she doesn't accept that it's not the way-- she always saw it as the fact that she is doing no wrong, and that she's not hurting anyone by doing anything, and the fact that she's doing the best. She may be doing the best, but in her eyes it's-- in my eyes especially, she's not--### Human: So I'm hearing that in her eyes she's doing the best she can, and to you it's why I'd like Mom to do a few things differently, but that's really hard to say to Mom because you feel she won't listen to what you say.### Assistant: Well, she doesn't because she has an idea in her head, and she doesn't-- she'll have an idea in her head, and she'll pretend she is listening to someone else, but really, she knows what she's going to do, and that's whatever she wants to do, and that's how she's always been. And I was speaking to Dad, and when we used to be annoying when we were kids, she used to punish us by hitting us with a wooden spoon, and Dad said that he didn't want that. Yelling at us was something. So that is someth


### Human: What do you mean--### Assistant: --else, but she doesn't accept that it's not the way-- she always saw it as the fact that she is doing no wrong, and that she's not hurting anyone by doing anything, and the fact that she's doing the best. She may be doing the best, but in her eyes it's-- in my eyes especially, she's not--### Human: So I'm hearing that in her eyes she's doing the best she can, and to you it's why I'd like Mom to do a few things differently, but that's really hard to say to Mom because you feel she won't listen to what you say.### Assistant: Well, she doesn't because she has an idea in her head, and she doesn't-- she'll have an idea in her head, and she'll pretend she is listening to someone else, but really, she knows what she's going to do, and that's whatever she wants to do, and that's how she's always been. And I was speaking to Dad, and when we used to be annoying when we were kids, she used to punish us by hitting us with a wooden spoon, and Dad said that he didn't want that. Yelling at us was something. So that is someth### Human: ### Assistant: And then I found out that she'd gone out and already bought a computer. She said she had no idea what she was doing, I had a better idea, and the fact that I said to Mom-- she spent $600 for it, and I said that it would have been-- they would have A, lasted longer, it would have been a lot better than the one she'd gotten. For $700 I could have gotten something that's three times as better as what we have and would last a lot longer because it's second hand. And our computers alread


### Human: So I'm hearing that in her eyes she's doing the best she can, and to you it's why I'd like Mom to do a few things differently, but that's really hard to say to Mom because you feel she won't listen to what you say.### Assistant: Well, she doesn't because she has an idea in her head, and she doesn't-- she'll have an idea in her head, and she'll pretend she is listening to someone else, but really, she knows what she's going to do, and that's whatever she wants to do, and that's how she's always been. And I was speaking to Dad, and when we used to be annoying when we were kids, she used to punish us by hitting us with a wooden spoon, and Dad said that he didn't want that. Yelling at us was something. So that is someth### Human: ### Assistant: And then I found out that she'd gone out and already bought a computer. She said she had no idea what she was doing, I had a better idea, and the fact that I said to Mom-- she spent $600 for it, and I said that it would have been-- they would have A, lasted longer, it would have been a lot better than the one she'd gotten. For $700 I could have gotten something that's three times as better as what we have and would last a lot longer because it's second hand. And our computers alread### Human: ### Assistant:


### Human: Yeah. So it sounds like the way they parent is very different.### Assistant: Yeah. Dad was always the fact that yelling or talking would be a better option than hitting or with force, and that's how Mom grew up, and that's how she-- and that's how she's had it, so that's how she does it. And Dad grew up with being spoken to or yelled or that sort of thing instead of being hit, and that's what he didn't agree with. And the fact that he said that Mom's always been like that, and her uncle said that she's always been like that because when she gets an idea in her head,### Human: Would it be helpful to talk to Mom about cutting the session?### Assistant: So I've sort of given up on talking to her, and--### Human: Is that something where you feel you go, "At the moment I feel it's really hard to talk to you because I feel you dismiss me"?### Assistant: Well, I think it makes me a lot happier when I don't talk about that sort of stuff. I sort of try to push that stuff aside so I can be close enough to a kid with a normal life because obviously, it's never going to be normal.


### Human: Would it be helpful to talk to Mom about cutting the session?### Assistant: So I've sort of given up on talking to her, and--### Human: Is that something where you feel you go, "At the moment I feel it's really hard to talk to you because I feel you dismiss me"?### Assistant: Well, I think it makes me a lot happier when I don't talk about that sort of stuff. I sort of try to push that stuff aside so I can be close enough to a kid with a normal life because obviously, it's never going to be normal.### Human: What is a normal life?### Assistant: Having two parents that live together with their kids in one house. That sort of thing.


### Human: Is that something where you feel you go, "At the moment I feel it's really hard to talk to you because I feel you dismiss me"?### Assistant: Well, I think it makes me a lot happier when I don't talk about that sort of stuff. I sort of try to push that stuff aside so I can be close enough to a kid with a normal life because obviously, it's never going to be normal.### Human: What is a normal life?### Assistant: Having two parents that live together with their kids in one house. That sort of thing.### Human: And why is that a normal life?### Assistant: Because that's what most kids have.


### Human: What is a normal life?### Assistant: Having two parents that live together with their kids in one house. That sort of thing.### Human: And why is that a normal life?### Assistant: Because that's what most kids have.### Human: Is that what most kids have though?### Assistant: Most kids do.


### Human: And why is that a normal life?### Assistant: Because that's what most kids have.### Human: Is that what most kids have though?### Assistant: Most kids do.### Human: Well, I would say--### Assistant: Some kids have other lives, where they either don't have a dad, they don't a mom, or they don't have parents at all, and I see that as the fact that they don't exactly have-- yeah. They don't have something that every kid is born into, where they have a mom and a dad, and they both live together, and they both are in some sort of building.


### Human: Is that what most kids have though?### Assistant: Most kids do.### Human: Well, I would say--### Assistant: Some kids have other lives, where they either don't have a dad, they don't a mom, or they don't have parents at all, and I see that as the fact that they don't exactly have-- yeah. They don't have something that every kid is born into, where they have a mom and a dad, and they both live together, and they both are in some sort of building.### Human: And that is ,--### Assistant: A house or--


### Human: Well, I would say--### Assistant: Some kids have other lives, where they either don't have a dad, they don't a mom, or they don't have parents at all, and I see that as the fact that they don't exactly have-- yeah. They don't have something that every kid is born into, where they have a mom and a dad, and they both live together, and they both are in some sort of building.### Human: And that is ,--### Assistant: A house or--### Human: So ---### Assistant: --apartment. That sort of stuff.


### Human: And that is ,--### Assistant: A house or--### Human: So ---### Assistant: --apartment. That sort of stuff.### Human: Which is society's expectations because there's a lot of people, Mom and Dad aren't together, some people have two moms or two dads. It's not necessary that it's a mom or dad, and things can happen, and things can change, but I can understand you've grown up for 14 years, roughly, with Mom and Dad.### Assistant: Yeah. I grew for a long time with me knowing that, and then I've considered that-- now, looking back at it, I considered that that was my normal life, and it's changed, and I've found myself a lot happier when I was back there. So I sort of push that sort of side of stuff away. All the things to do with court. Stuff to do with Mom and Dad--


### Human: So ---### Assistant: --apartment. That sort of stuff.### Human: Which is society's expectations because there's a lot of people, Mom and Dad aren't together, some people have two moms or two dads. It's not necessary that it's a mom or dad, and things can happen, and things can change, but I can understand you've grown up for 14 years, roughly, with Mom and Dad.### Assistant: Yeah. I grew for a long time with me knowing that, and then I've considered that-- now, looking back at it, I considered that that was my normal life, and it's changed, and I've found myself a lot happier when I was back there. So I sort of push that sort of side of stuff away. All the things to do with court. Stuff to do with Mom and Dad--### Human: Because that's--### Assistant: --away, and sort of focused on friends, socializing, sport, that sort of stuff, and sort of tried to get it as close to what it was like before it all happened.


### Human: Which is society's expectations because there's a lot of people, Mom and Dad aren't together, some people have two moms or two dads. It's not necessary that it's a mom or dad, and things can happen, and things can change, but I can understand you've grown up for 14 years, roughly, with Mom and Dad.### Assistant: Yeah. I grew for a long time with me knowing that, and then I've considered that-- now, looking back at it, I considered that that was my normal life, and it's changed, and I've found myself a lot happier when I was back there. So I sort of push that sort of side of stuff away. All the things to do with court. Stuff to do with Mom and Dad--### Human: Because that's--### Assistant: --away, and sort of focused on friends, socializing, sport, that sort of stuff, and sort of tried to get it as close to what it was like before it all happened.### Human: And these are the things that I can feel you have control over. Your friends, sport, but with family, you haven't had a lot of control over. Am I hearing?### Assistant: Yeah. And I've spoken to a friend about that, and he said that he doesn't really bother about his mom and dad at all, not being together. He sort of focuses on the fact before that. And--


### Human: Because that's--### Assistant: --away, and sort of focused on friends, socializing, sport, that sort of stuff, and sort of tried to get it as close to what it was like before it all happened.### Human: And these are the things that I can feel you have control over. Your friends, sport, but with family, you haven't had a lot of control over. Am I hearing?### Assistant: Yeah. And I've spoken to a friend about that, and he said that he doesn't really bother about his mom and dad at all, not being together. He sort of focuses on the fact before that. And--### Human: So those things that were there before parents separated. Is that right?### Assistant: Yeah.