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Okay, thank you. I think you are excited. Today we |
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are coming to the, you know, this fourth lecture |
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of, you know, poetry. And I think most of you are |
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excited because they have something to say. So, as |
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usual, let us start by having |
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somebody to read her report. |
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Fighting for survival can't be abandoned since no |
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one can stop dreaming of the sweet memories in |
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life. We all want to retrieve every sweet moment |
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and live it again with the same people or maybe |
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with others. And this is me having the same course |
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for the second time gives me a flashback of the |
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sweetest moments I have ever spent in my life. |
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When I see the girls reading their creative |
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reports with a victory smile, I remembered that |
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smile I must have drawn when I was reading my |
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first report. But when the same creativity comes |
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with the same words I heard in the past, it must |
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be something incredible. Since the music of |
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alliteration metaphors paradox are heard again, I |
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completely recognized the reason behind giving |
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them the term aesthetics. So I admit it's a |
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privilege more than a resentment to repeat the |
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same course again. Good, thank you. So you are |
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affirming what I'm doing here. Thank you for this |
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report. Yes, you can attend the course more than |
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once, but every time you have something new. Yeah. |
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Okay, yes. Let's see if you can. |
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Good morning, everybody. Having been ill for a |
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couple of days, I was compelled to miss the poetry |
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class. Though I came back last class and was quite |
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thrilled at the nicely air-conditioned room with |
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the air that was tickling my still warm face, the |
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cameras were behind me and Being not having not |
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prepared yet I was trying to sing further in my |
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chair and hide between the colorful heads in the |
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class. The poem being discussed however seemed |
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pretty fun and easy to analyze. Dr. Akram's |
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exploration investigation of the various aesthetic |
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and figurative elements were really nice and were |
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really exciting and got me more and more more and |
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more excited. I feel excited about the class and |
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there it goes with the next with the next class my |
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journey of exploration will begin. Thank you very |
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much. Okay, I know like most of you are willing to |
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read, but I don't like to disappoint you. You can |
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just read, come and read it quickly. Next time I'm |
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going to choose randomly. Okay, go ahead. My last |
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lecture in this class because I escaped from this |
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class. Okay, so you're coming back. You're an |
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attorney. Yes. Escaping from that room is what I |
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did. So nice, so, so comfortable. But I was just |
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like a bird in cage that could not fly. Move |
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camera one. Switch camera two. That what, what the |
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men in that room keeping said. Walking upstairs |
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with my friend. Showing me her report with little |
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shy. What amazing job you do. It, it touch me, it |
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touch from me the sky. Go ahead. beneath the hope |
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that gives life to whose heart is dead. Kick out |
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your fright and just try. One day your struggle |
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will end and we'll see the shine of success laying |
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in your bed. With determination one could not be |
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but guy. Finally she started reading and my heart |
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with pleasure flied. Wow, great doing, my |
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professor said. Then, with our interesting poem, |
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we go deep and high. The time passed away, and one |
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idea didn't leave my head. Can I write well as my |
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friend? Yes, you can do whatever live in your |
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side. Just be strong and don't let it die. This is |
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very interesting. I like this report because it's |
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creative. It has some poetic aspect. And I like it |
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also because it runs against the motif of the |
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poem. Because you see in the poem, the poet was |
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frustrated, the poet was disappointed, and it |
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seems like he has already, you know, made up his |
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mind, like to relinquish, to give up, you know, |
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any attempt of hunting, you know, the deer. But |
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here, here we have a student who is persistent, |
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who's not going to give up. You see? Good. So |
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today's class is going to be a little bit |
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different. Like it's practical more than me just |
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talking. I know that I assigned you to read the |
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first part of the critical plan. So just I want |
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first at the beginning to see what you have |
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understood. Then we're going to go through or to |
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go again through like the aesthetics to show you |
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the aesthetics and to see how we can link between |
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like the aesthetics and the meaning of the poem or |
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let's say the possible meaning of the poem. So let |
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me ask you, what do you think of the first part of |
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the critical plot? |
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Yes. Yes, please. When you want to be excited |
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about, you should answer some questions. Yes. |
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First, you have to understand |
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the course and language and read it again and more |
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again in order to understand it deeply and then So |
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any poem, we don't have like just to go to the |
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poem without asking ourselves some questions. |
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Because I think asking questions will help us to |
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have a better understanding of the poem. So this |
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is very important. So who's speaking to whom? What |
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is like the setting of the poem in time? What is |
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the setting of the poem in place? And so on. Like, |
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I think it is very important here when we, like in |
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this poem, who's speaking? You know? Who's |
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speaking? Yeah, like it's very important. Like a |
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courtier? You know, the poet? An ordinary man? |
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Like, who's talking? And to whom? And I think, you |
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know, how many voices we have in the poem. It's |
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very important to know, like, how many voices we |
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have in the poem. Because, like, realizing this or |
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finding answers to these questions will help us to |
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draft our, you know, let's say, initial critique |
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of the poem. Good. Let's see if somebody else, |
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like, what do you understand from what you have |
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read? Yes? |
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So let's go through the question. The first |
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question, what is like, who's talking, I think? |
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What is the first question? The setting of the |
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poem in time. Do you think this is very important, |
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my question? Does this give us clues? And if we |
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are talking about this poem, You know, and I |
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think, you know, we have now in mind like the |
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setting of the poem. How does this help us? Yes, |
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Ana. I'm sure that it's like an essential aspect |
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that when we know the time that the poem was |
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written and we know the culture of that time, the |
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features of that time, the cases and everything |
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that happened in that time, that the poem itself |
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reflects what happened in that time. So sometimes |
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it is a reflection, sometimes it is like, you |
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know, an expansion of an idea, sometimes it runs |
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against the prominent ideas of the time. See? So |
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it's very important to understand the setting of |
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time, like when it was, when was the poem written? |
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Yes? I think it is important to know the time |
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because we have to know the period because it's, |
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every period has a specific origin. |
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expectations, right, because the poets were |
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writing for the readers of the time. And, of |
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course, they knew what they expected. Yes, Jahan? |
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I think sometimes it is actually essential, but |
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sometimes it really doesn't matter. Sometimes you |
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have a text that means something back in time, but |
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when you read it now, it gives the meaning a whole |
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different dimension. So it also gives it richness. |
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when you don't really attach it to a specific |
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period of time. When you just take it as a chance. |
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You are right, but this depends on what kind of |
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critic you are. If we are dealing with new |
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critics, of course, like Jehan studied, like |
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schools of criticism. Like, yes, if we are dealing |
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with new critics, we have to forget anything |
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underground. But nowadays, the most prominent |
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schools of criticism are |
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the cultural critics and the neo-hystericists. The |
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neo-hystericists think that the poem was a kind of |
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dialogue between the text and the age itself. |
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Okay, but thank you. This means we don't have, |
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culture of the time. You see what I mean? Because |
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the poem in time? And then, what is the setting of |
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the place. Because sometimes, like, the place |
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of our poet as, you know, a courtier, a man who |
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happened to him. So I think the place, sometimes |
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we are affected by the place. So if you are |
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talking about Like, you know, the place of the |
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the royal family during that time. a sport like |
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like to go hunting and I think hunting has to do |
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with like it is very it is a leisure activity you |
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aristocrats for high class people so I think all |
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of these might come to our mind okay what other |
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questions we have Who's the speaker? Do you think |
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it's very important to know who's the speaker? |
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Who's the speaker in the poem? Who's the speaker? |
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man. But don't you think, like, the man here, the |
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speaker voice is stronger than any voice? And even |
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when he let her speak about herself, he chose |
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something, you know, a certain thing, no limi |
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tangere. That was a little bit offensive, if you |
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want to say. So he subsumed her voice. I mean, he |
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whom? Like to whom? I think in the poem. |
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well? To the king. Imagine yourself the king. What |
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you be happy or you would not be happy? Why? |
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and listen to this? You know? No? Why? |
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about his wife, you know? Good. Who thinks she |
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would be happy? Yes. Yeah, he gave up. And I |
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setting, the place, what is the poem about? This |
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about? So let me, because this is what I want you |
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about? It's about courtly love. What do you mean |
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courtly love? Women from the high class fall in |
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love with a man from the low class. Fall in love |
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with a woman from the high class. Okay, so this is |
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an exercise of masculinity. But let's see, let's |
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put this, because this is one of the strongest |
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themes. It is a possible theme. Do you have more |
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people who are having nothing, you see, the weak. |
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unattainable goal. It is about power, you know. |
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attainable, you know, ambition. Like everybody of |
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hindrances that impede like the achievement or the |
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fulfillment of this. Okay. Now I think we have |
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happen in the poem. I don't know how you can make |
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critique. What are we going to do with this? Yes, |
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this is a patriarchal consonant. The patriarchal |
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argument is distributed. You might think of the |
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doing, he's trying, because Sir Thomas White was |
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experimenting, and we don't have like here, you |
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know, we have in this state, like he's not |
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consistent. And even you can do it like this, or |
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you can end by EE, which is a couplet. If you look |
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couplet? So all these things you might ask when |
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itself. See what I mean? I'll leave this for you. |
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the rhythm. I don't know what you are going to do |
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with rhythm. Yes, we have rhythm, and as you see, |
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the rhythm is a kind of iambic pentameter. But not |
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all the poems like this. We have some verses like |
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we have extra syllables. But this is, as you see, |
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but as, but as, for me, unless, I may, no more. |
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unchi, unchi, unchi. Like unstressed, stressed. |
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for me, unless I may know more. So, it is iambic |
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pentameter, and I don't know what you are going to |
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It's musical, of course, but it is like this, ti |
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tam, ti tam, ti tam, ti tam. Can you link it with |
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anything related to the feeling of the poem, the |
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feeling of disappointment, the feeling of |
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whatever? So it's very important. If you cannot, |
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leave it. But I would encourage you to make use of |
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reflect upon this, you know, because if we are |
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talking about like frustration, like hope and |
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frustration, so it is, you have this |
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interchangeable effect, you know, it might be. I |
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don't want like to rule out something to say, |
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okay, sorry, Here are some of the themes. You |
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might embrace some of them. And I would leave |
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these themes. When you read, it's about attainable |
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love. |
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As you see, the speaker chases a woman whom he |
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cannot and must not reach, and must not reach. |
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She's a taboo. She is something you cannot reach. |
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You know what I mean? For she is a prize of the |
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ruler of the land. So nobody can challenge the |
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king. And I'm not sure whether the poet was |
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antagonist or accomplice with the king. So he |
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might be like a media machine for the king, hey |
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hunters, if you are trying to do like this, this |
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is your fate will be. So he might be admonishing |
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them, warning them. If Annabelle approaches, let's |
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say, what is related to the king or something the |
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king owns, you'll be in trouble. Do you see what I |
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mean? Shakespeare, in most of his plays, promoted |
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that culture, like the king was divine and nobody, |
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you know, in the kingdom should think for a moment |
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to contest that power. Otherwise, he would be |
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ostracized. Ostracized means like marginalized or |
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treated badly. You see what I mean? Good. Another |
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theme is like bowing to absolute power. Like this |
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is what I'm talking about. The king is a power and |
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so you are You know you are showing veneration and |
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submission to that culture These are possible |
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themes you can add to the courtly love |
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Unattainable |
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goal And you can read I can leave this for you |
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like on the page to read And |
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here we have all the metaphors we talk about you |
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know and I think the alliteration, so you have the |
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metaphor, the alliteration, you have the metaphor, |
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you have the paradox. So all these are elements |
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that you should use when you write. But now, with |
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all these things in mind, how to start is the |
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biggest question. How to start? Now, I think it's |
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very important, to contextualize the poem, it's |
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very important to write the first paragraph. |
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Because if you write the first paragraph in which |
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you have to articulate your thesis, your thesis |
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statement, the topic sentence, and the topic |
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sentence, when we are talking of the poem, should |
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include the main idea of the poem. So you might |
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say, let me just help you. This poem seems to be |
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about, let me write even. |
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So I might start saying, |
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This poem, or I might, it's good to say, Huzo Lesz |
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Zohan is |
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a poem or is a sonnet. I prefer like, if you, it |
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is different when you say it is a sonnet. It is a |
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sonnet, you show that, you start to fuse. It's a |
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sonnet written |
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by |
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Poet or courtier. Poet, and you say he's a |
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courtier. |
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The main theme of the poem seems to be about... |
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The main theme of the poem, after that you say, |
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the main theme |
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Okay, the main theme of the poem seems, |
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I don't want you to say it is, because this is a |
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possibility. We don't want to exhaust any other |
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possibility by saying it is. So the theme might |
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be, seems to be about courtly love. |
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The theme of the poem seems to |
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be about, |
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after articulating this, |
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It's about courtly love. |
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After this, it's very important now to say what is |
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courtly love and to relate this. |
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The persona who represents the poet is greatly |
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frustrated. Now, this is what we say, the |
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elaboration. And look here, the elaboration is |
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very important. Why? Because the way you are |
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elaborating, it means you are creating your |
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controlling ideas. So the poet is greatly |
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devastated because of the changeability and the |
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inconsistency of a woman or the woman. So here, |
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When you say the changeability, when you say this, |
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like, it means you are enunciating your, like, |
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controlling ideas. And this is in itself like how |
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we start, okay? Now I would leave you to work in |
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groups, I'll give you like 10 minutes for this |
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exercise, and listen, like groups of three or |
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four, and just like try to write, make use of the |
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whatever figure of speech, but I think, you know, |
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some of you might need to write about the theme, |
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okay? So here, like group of three, write about |
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the possibility. And I want you, this, like to |
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make use of the You know, figures of speech. You |
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know? So they might say, Cortado, what about the |
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figure of speech? They might say, you know, |
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terrible goal, what are the rules? You might also |
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make use of the right and the left. Tell me how |
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the right and the left are very important. So, |
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okay. So here you work out the possible theme. |
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Here you try to tell us how the figures of speech |
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are related to the theme. And here, you know, |
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If you need any help, I'm just coming around. |
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Okay, let's see. Let's see here like those who |
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wrote about the possibility. Yes, please. So you |
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think that the poem is still courtly love? |
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Okay, |
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but we cannot write like you are defining courtly |
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love, you know, not talking about the theme of the |
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poem. Okay, now, like, when you write about the |
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theme of the poem, you have to elaborate, you |
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know, it only, but don't give a definition of the |
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court levau. Otherwise, you know you're, this is |
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like the aggression, like you're not writing about |
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the poem. Okay, let's suppose that the poet is, |
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436 |
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the poem is about court levau, and the poet is |
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frustrated, disappointed, because of the |
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inconsistency of the lady, because of, you know, |
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the dishonesty because of her fickleness, okay? |
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And he was like to remove any blame to exonerate |
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himself. Now, in the poem, we have, let's say, the |
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metaphors, we have the rhythm, we have a very |
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good, I haven't thought of that. Yeah, it is |
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stressed, unstressed. Like again, this, it is like |
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fluctuating, it keeps fluctuating and this |
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fluctuating, I don't know, I have thought of it |
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also like when a hunter is hunting, you know, he |
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has hopes of catching them, these hopes are |
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smashed, okay? It's like panting up. Somebody who |
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is running, you know, he's panting out because |
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why? He cannot. Thank you. I have never thought of |
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like the rhythm fitting with the meaning of the |
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453 |
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poem in this way. Okay, let's shift to the theme |
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group. I want a theme other than Cordula. Okay? We |
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want a theme other than Cordula. Yes? Yes? Class |
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division. |
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Okay, |
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so like she wants to say that the theme is the |
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class individual. Okay, do you have anything in |
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the figures of speech to substantiate that or to |
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help us in developing that theme? The allegory |
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itself? Yeah, very good. He can't say and express |
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feelings. He just mentioned the allegory. Yeah, so |
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do you want to say like He afraid from the king. |
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You know or normal people like are not given like |
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they don't have the right to express themselves. |
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Yes. So they opt for the use of allegory. Yes. |
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Good. |
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Also the metonymy of diamonds and ferrets. The |
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metonymy, thank you. The metonymy of diamonds. And |
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also like ferrets. We were talking about the |
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metonymy of the diamonds like this shows like |
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diamond It has to do with richness, appearance. |
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Appearance like richness. Okay? Good. |
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Yes. |
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Caesar, the word Caesar, you know, is also like an |
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economy, like standing for the power. For the |
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power. The upper class or the royal family had all |
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the power in its hand. Good. Let's see. Let's go |
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back to the rhyme and rhythm. Can you manipulate |
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it? Because I think the art of criticism is an art |
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of manipulation and persuasion. You have to |
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manipulate. They say it's about power. It's about |
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class division. |
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So what do you want to say? |
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It's a problem, huh? Yeah. Okay. So maybe, I don't |
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know, maybe we can say that the fact that he |
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actually did change in the run, even he did change |
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the meter itself, it shows you that he's actually |
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starving for power, or maybe he's trying to have |
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some sort of control or sort of Ah, very good. To |
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get a grip of something and do change it as he |
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pleases. Yeah, like, so this change, like, it has |
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to do with his attempt, like, to change. Yes, he |
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cannot. He cannot, but still, like, he's trying. |
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I'm trying. Okay, I got disappointed, but somebody |
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might continue, you know. However, like, it is |
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very disappointing, but at least I have tried to |
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change and the, you know, Just to try, it's a good |
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thing in itself. Well, thank you very much for |
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manipulating. So look here, we can manipulate any |
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figure of speech, we can manipulate any aesthetic |
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element to serve our purpose. And you should be |
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very happy because I'm not like just asking you to |
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say one specific theme. You can talk about |
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different things because what is the poem? So if |
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we say it is about this, it means like we finished |
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the whole poem, okay? I think I should, we should |
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stop here, but it is now, this is the first |
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experience with a poem like this. Next time we are |
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moving to another poem, another poem, we're going |
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to read another song, which is a description of |
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strength. description before, I mean, written by |
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Henry Howard Carroll of Surrey. He was |
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contemporary. And it's very important when you |
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respond, like, to pay attention to details, like, |
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the differences between the two poems. So thank |
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you very much, and yallah bless you. |
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