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+AmV16f169J4-00002-00000400-00000567 gay stories podcast +AmV16f169J4-00003-00000568-00000737 um thank you +AmV16f169J4-00004-00000738-00001135 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00005-00001136-00001311 so we just set up a big booth at pride +AmV16f169J4-00006-00001312-00001447 and so many people didn't want to stop +AmV16f169J4-00007-00001448-00001639 by because we were very mormon and +AmV16f169J4-00008-00001639-00001847 [Laughter] +AmV16f169J4-00009-00001848-00002039 don't let the the name letter gay +AmV16f169J4-00010-00002039-00002255 stories fool you +AmV16f169J4-00011-00002256-00002479 really the podcast was set up as a soft +AmV16f169J4-00012-00002480-00002791 landing for what i often call gabies +AmV16f169J4-00013-00002792-00002966 little baby game mormons who fall out of +AmV16f169J4-00014-00002967-00003303 the closet and usually only hit a hard +AmV16f169J4-00015-00003304-00003551 surface i started the podcast to try to +AmV16f169J4-00016-00003552-00003806 create resources to connect people and +AmV16f169J4-00017-00003807-00004047 and give people an opportunity to fall +AmV16f169J4-00018-00004047-00004206 out of those closets +AmV16f169J4-00019-00004207-00004567 in a healthy soft and manageable way so +AmV16f169J4-00020-00004568-00004759 they can stand up and run and thrive +AmV16f169J4-00021-00004760-00004991 like matt and so many others that's what +AmV16f169J4-00022-00004992-00005118 we tried to do with the latter gay +AmV16f169J4-00023-00005119-00005311 stories podcast it originally was named +AmV16f169J4-00024-00005312-00005535 the gay mormon stories podcast opened by +AmV16f169J4-00025-00005536-00005711 the open stories foundation when the +AmV16f169J4-00026-00005712-00006006 church said mormon is now taboo uh i +AmV16f169J4-00027-00006007-00006183 tongue-in-cheek renamed the podcast of +AmV16f169J4-00028-00006184-00006359 the latter gay stories podcast and i +AmV16f169J4-00029-00006360-00006751 don't know which they prefer +AmV16f169J4-00030-00006752-00006927 but that's just a little premise behind +AmV16f169J4-00031-00006928-00007078 what we do and really we're giving an +AmV16f169J4-00032-00007079-00007287 opportunity for all people in or out of +AmV16f169J4-00033-00007288-00007583 mormonism to share their stories and i +AmV16f169J4-00034-00007584-00007710 and i think that's maybe something we're +AmV16f169J4-00035-00007711-00007895 going to talk about a little bit about +AmV16f169J4-00036-00007895-00008095 tonight and as you watch more of the +AmV16f169J4-00037-00008095-00008295 episodes of mormon no more you'll see +AmV16f169J4-00038-00008296-00008574 that there isn't just one way to gay +AmV16f169J4-00039-00008575-00008883 there are multiple levels +AmV16f169J4-00040-00008884-00009287 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00041-00009288-00009495 and regardless of where you are on at +AmV16f169J4-00042-00009496-00009735 the or where you're at on that journey +AmV16f169J4-00043-00009736-00010006 there is a story there is a road map +AmV16f169J4-00044-00010007-00010319 there is very in a very real way +AmV16f169J4-00045-00010320-00010567 pavement and asphalt to help you move +AmV16f169J4-00046-00010568-00010831 forward and no more or fewer boulders +AmV16f169J4-00047-00010832-00011103 few more mountains few fewer areas that +AmV16f169J4-00048-00011104-00011310 we have to carve in order for our +AmV16f169J4-00049-00011311-00011583 community to make a better uh a way of +AmV16f169J4-00050-00011584-00011799 progress so for that i want to thank +AmV16f169J4-00051-00011800-00012046 this panel who continues to pave and +AmV16f169J4-00052-00012047-00012214 make this trail a little easier for +AmV16f169J4-00053-00012215-00012374 those little baby gays who are falling +AmV16f169J4-00054-00012375-00012830 out of the closet tomorrow +AmV16f169J4-00055-00012831-00012999 all right so i want you to get to know +AmV16f169J4-00056-00013000-00013183 um this panel as well before we jump +AmV16f169J4-00057-00013184-00013303 into questions so we'll start with you +AmV16f169J4-00058-00013304-00013519 brad and then we'll just pass the um +AmV16f169J4-00059-00013519-00013847 we'll pass the mic along +AmV16f169J4-00060-00013847-00014079 okay hello my name is bradley talbot i'm +AmV16f169J4-00061-00014080-00014354 the founder of color of the campus +AmV16f169J4-00062-00014355-00014775 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00063-00014776-00014983 what is there anything specific i'm +AmV16f169J4-00064-00014984-00015422 episode 2 so i'm the next one +AmV16f169J4-00065-00015423-00015638 and my mom is featured as well +AmV16f169J4-00066-00015640-00015863 she honestly needs the recognition she +AmV16f169J4-00067-00015863-00016143 does amazing +AmV16f169J4-00068-00016144-00016255 um +AmV16f169J4-00069-00016256-00016399 is there anything specific you want to +AmV16f169J4-00070-00016400-00017055 know um +AmV16f169J4-00071-00017056-00017158 um +AmV16f169J4-00072-00017159-00017194 so +AmV16f169J4-00073-00017195-00017303 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-00074-00017304-00017511 i think lighting the y was really what +AmV16f169J4-00075-00017512-00017688 caught people's attention +AmV16f169J4-00076-00017689-00017983 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00077-00017984-00018167 um +AmV16f169J4-00078-00018168-00018494 it changed my life um +AmV16f169J4-00079-00018495-00018671 and i don't know what i was thinking i +AmV16f169J4-00080-00018672-00018791 knew it was gonna be a big deal but i +AmV16f169J4-00081-00018792-00018903 didn't think it was gonna be that big of +AmV16f169J4-00082-00018904-00019030 a deal +AmV16f169J4-00083-00019031-00019135 um +AmV16f169J4-00084-00019136-00019286 i thought people would forget about it a +AmV16f169J4-00085-00019287-00019463 week or so later and we would be able to +AmV16f169J4-00086-00019464-00019727 move on and i ended up not being able to +AmV16f169J4-00087-00019728-00019911 do any school work for the next month +AmV16f169J4-00088-00019912-00020127 because i was trying to recover +AmV16f169J4-00089-00020128-00020286 um +AmV16f169J4-00090-00020287-00020511 but i think that's um +AmV16f169J4-00091-00020512-00020655 when they reached out to me they reached +AmV16f169J4-00092-00020656-00020822 out through that account called the +AmV16f169J4-00093-00020823-00020991 color the campus and +AmV16f169J4-00094-00020992-00021239 um told me kind of about what was going +AmV16f169J4-00095-00021240-00021455 on with this and if i wanted to be +AmV16f169J4-00096-00021456-00021953 involved and i said yes i'd love to so +AmV16f169J4-00097-00021954-00022319 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00098-00022320-00022511 hi everyone i'm rin +AmV16f169J4-00099-00022512-00022671 i'm also episode 2 i'm one of the +AmV16f169J4-00100-00022672-00022847 anonymous byu students they interviewed +AmV16f169J4-00101-00022848-00023039 so i will be moderating my answers as i +AmV16f169J4-00102-00023040-00023263 am still at byu and i +AmV16f169J4-00103-00023264-00023903 don't want to get kicked out for this +AmV16f169J4-00104-00023904-00024150 and i got involved with the mormon no +AmV16f169J4-00105-00024151-00024414 more um i was going to call it a podcast +AmV16f169J4-00106-00024415-00024639 it's not a podcast it's a documentary uh +AmV16f169J4-00107-00024640-00024830 the usga of which i'm a part i'm on the +AmV16f169J4-00108-00024831-00025030 new student outreach thing and i run the +AmV16f169J4-00109-00025031-00025622 queer mentors program +AmV16f169J4-00110-00025623-00025887 hi everyone my name is matty easton i'm +AmV16f169J4-00111-00025888-00026078 jeffrey our holland's favorite byu +AmV16f169J4-00112-00026079-00026183 student +AmV16f169J4-00113-00026183-00026279 yes +AmV16f169J4-00114-00026280-00026487 we love you jeff we love you +AmV16f169J4-00115-00026488-00026583 um +AmV16f169J4-00116-00026583-00026799 i got involved through the podcast and i +AmV16f169J4-00117-00026800-00027007 have to be honest they have become you +AmV16f169J4-00118-00027008-00027199 know my second and third mom i'm so +AmV16f169J4-00119-00027200-00027390 inspired i even want to look like sally +AmV16f169J4-00120-00027391-00027590 so that's why i dye my hair nice to meet +AmV16f169J4-00121-00027591-00027831 y'all +AmV16f169J4-00122-00027832-00028014 you can usually tell the phase of gay by +AmV16f169J4-00123-00028016-00028374 the color of the hair so +AmV16f169J4-00124-00028375-00028758 i don't know nan i saw you with some uh +AmV16f169J4-00125-00028760-00028918 some blonde hair was showing up in those +AmV16f169J4-00126-00028919-00029111 episodes +AmV16f169J4-00127-00029112-00029295 that's right that's what it is doing +AmV16f169J4-00128-00029295-00029390 i'm +AmV16f169J4-00129-00029391-00029551 as i mentioned my name is kyle ashworth +AmV16f169J4-00130-00029552-00029735 i'm also in season two as i worked with +AmV16f169J4-00131-00029736-00029879 abc and +AmV16f169J4-00132-00029880-00030118 i'm sorry episode two uh in covering the +AmV16f169J4-00133-00030119-00030335 color of the campus with the podcast and +AmV16f169J4-00134-00030336-00030407 uh +AmV16f169J4-00135-00030408-00030599 broadcasting that live stream which was +AmV16f169J4-00136-00030600-00030855 a total success there were thousands of +AmV16f169J4-00137-00030856-00031046 people that watched the live stream of +AmV16f169J4-00138-00031047-00031183 uh the lighting of the y in the +AmV16f169J4-00139-00031183-00031374 transgender colors and then surrounding +AmV16f169J4-00140-00031375-00031718 byu's potential arresting of the uh +AmV16f169J4-00141-00031719-00031918 family members and and and community +AmV16f169J4-00142-00031919-00032062 members who were up on the hill so +AmV16f169J4-00143-00032063-00032255 that's an exciting part this uh episode +AmV16f169J4-00144-00032256-00032358 two +AmV16f169J4-00145-00032360-00032774 no spoilers +AmV16f169J4-00146-00032775-00032959 okay lena your turn +AmV16f169J4-00147-00032960-00033181 i'm lena osborne sally's wife +AmV16f169J4-00148-00033182-00033623 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00149-00033624-00034087 spoiler we got married +AmV16f169J4-00150-00034088-00034351 uh we had a post go viral on same-sex +AmV16f169J4-00151-00034352-00034583 parents instagram which is a really +AmV16f169J4-00152-00034584-00034862 great platform for queer moms and dads +AmV16f169J4-00153-00034863-00035023 and these and thems and +AmV16f169J4-00154-00035024-00035279 for people to see it's just normal super +AmV16f169J4-00155-00035280-00035462 normal families look however they look +AmV16f169J4-00156-00035463-00035639 and it doesn't have to be just one +AmV16f169J4-00157-00035640-00035790 specific way +AmV16f169J4-00158-00035791-00036167 and yeah the the producer from abc +AmV16f169J4-00159-00036168-00036359 she's diane sawyer's producer she +AmV16f169J4-00160-00036360-00036599 reached out to us she's gay and with a +AmV16f169J4-00161-00036600-00036839 woman and has a child and and just said +AmV16f169J4-00162-00036840-00036990 i want a passion project will you do +AmV16f169J4-00163-00036991-00037230 this with me and we were like hell yeah +AmV16f169J4-00164-00037231-00037611 we're gonna do +AmV16f169J4-00165-00037612-00037883 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00166-00037884-00038167 it thank you for being here you you've +AmV16f169J4-00167-00038168-00038394 heard enough from me today i think +AmV16f169J4-00168-00038395-00038551 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-00169-00038552-00038735 uh that is the only the second time i've +AmV16f169J4-00170-00038736-00038951 seen it and i was a wreck back there in +AmV16f169J4-00171-00038952-00039223 the back and so i'm recovering i got a +AmV16f169J4-00172-00039224-00039511 little pep talk from this one uh +AmV16f169J4-00173-00039512-00039590 so +AmV16f169J4-00174-00039591-00039879 thanks for being here it's a very tender +AmV16f169J4-00175-00039880-00039967 time +AmV16f169J4-00176-00039968-00040239 to relive all that it's super hard and +AmV16f169J4-00177-00040240-00040390 also +AmV16f169J4-00178-00040391-00040646 i'm so like overwhelmed by the love and +AmV16f169J4-00179-00040647-00040799 support that we've received it's just +AmV16f169J4-00180-00040800-00041495 like incredible so thank you +AmV16f169J4-00181-00041496-00041695 for yeah first first time i've seen it +AmV16f169J4-00182-00041696-00041807 other than +AmV16f169J4-00183-00041808-00042046 on my couch at like one in the morning +AmV16f169J4-00184-00042047-00042423 with lena +AmV16f169J4-00185-00042424-00042849 i'm nan i'm sally's mom +AmV16f169J4-00186-00042850-00043518 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00187-00043519-00043743 i am proud to be here +AmV16f169J4-00188-00043744-00043902 and uh +AmV16f169J4-00189-00043903-00044174 just like sally said in the +AmV16f169J4-00190-00044175-00044358 in this episode she said never in a +AmV16f169J4-00191-00044359-00044471 million years +AmV16f169J4-00192-00044472-00044671 could you have told me that this was +AmV16f169J4-00193-00044672-00044918 going to be my life +AmV16f169J4-00194-00044919-00045135 and i feel the same way +AmV16f169J4-00195-00045136-00045390 never did i think this is what where i +AmV16f169J4-00196-00045391-00045518 would be +AmV16f169J4-00197-00045519-00045718 but i couldn't be happier to be here +AmV16f169J4-00198-00045719-00045935 this is where i want to be +AmV16f169J4-00199-00045936-00046655 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00200-00046656-00046891 hi i'm rod i'm sally's dad +AmV16f169J4-00201-00046892-00047199 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00202-00047200-00047558 i just want to say um you know +AmV16f169J4-00203-00047559-00047727 we're in it because they filmed us and +AmV16f169J4-00204-00047728-00048030 and we're sally's dad +AmV16f169J4-00205-00048031-00048223 i'm sally's dad she's her mom +AmV16f169J4-00206-00048224-00048327 um +AmV16f169J4-00207-00048328-00048590 the real courageous people +AmV16f169J4-00208-00048591-00048823 are the matt easton's +AmV16f169J4-00209-00048824-00049023 and the brad talbots +AmV16f169J4-00210-00049024-00049262 and the kyle ashworth and the sally's +AmV16f169J4-00211-00049263-00049462 and lena's of this world +AmV16f169J4-00212-00049463-00049679 and i am +AmV16f169J4-00213-00049680-00049996 honored to be here with them +AmV16f169J4-00214-00049997-00050615 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00215-00050616-00050927 same +AmV16f169J4-00216-00050928-00051199 uh my name is sam i'm sally's little +AmV16f169J4-00217-00051200-00051454 brother and her favorite mannequin to +AmV16f169J4-00218-00051455-00051566 dress up +AmV16f169J4-00219-00051567-00051679 uh +AmV16f169J4-00220-00051679-00051766 we +AmV16f169J4-00221-00051767-00051919 all of us look the same because sally +AmV16f169J4-00222-00051920-00052166 styles us +AmV16f169J4-00223-00052167-00052302 and +AmV16f169J4-00224-00052303-00052503 i dyed nan's hair +AmV16f169J4-00225-00052504-00052766 blonde +AmV16f169J4-00226-00052767-00053487 and yes that's me i'm sam +AmV16f169J4-00227-00053488-00053726 hello i'm joe i'm sally's uh youngest +AmV16f169J4-00228-00053727-00054150 brother great to be here +AmV16f169J4-00229-00054151-00054342 i don't remember my fourth birthday +AmV16f169J4-00230-00054344-00054630 party that's a +AmV16f169J4-00231-00054632-00054775 spoiler that's the one line i get the +AmV16f169J4-00232-00054776-00054975 whole show so +AmV16f169J4-00233-00054976-00055175 out of all the side characters i am the +AmV16f169J4-00234-00055176-00055463 sightest of the side characters +AmV16f169J4-00235-00055464-00055871 happy to be here +AmV16f169J4-00236-00055872-00056199 sam sam's uh sam takes the stage in the +AmV16f169J4-00237-00056200-00056335 like the third +AmV16f169J4-00238-00056336-00056599 episode a bunch so you got that to look +AmV16f169J4-00239-00056600-00056726 forward to +AmV16f169J4-00240-00056727-00057030 yeah you blew my questions thanks sam +AmV16f169J4-00241-00057032-00057191 i had one question +AmV16f169J4-00242-00057191-00057326 i actually um +AmV16f169J4-00243-00057327-00057447 i appreciate +AmV16f169J4-00244-00057448-00057815 the candidness sally of of your response +AmV16f169J4-00245-00057816-00058063 to seeing this for the second time i +AmV16f169J4-00246-00058064-00058359 wonder as you uh have now watched all +AmV16f169J4-00247-00058360-00058559 four episodes been here with a student +AmV16f169J4-00248-00058560-00058742 with the audience and and then being +AmV16f169J4-00249-00058744-00058950 being able to field some of the +AmV16f169J4-00250-00058951-00059487 audience reactions was mormon no more +AmV16f169J4-00251-00059488-00059638 a documentary that exceeded your +AmV16f169J4-00252-00059639-00059879 expectations what was your overall +AmV16f169J4-00253-00059879-00060030 thought regarding +AmV16f169J4-00254-00060032-00060638 the end product +AmV16f169J4-00255-00060639-00060782 i didn't +AmV16f169J4-00256-00060783-00060863 i +AmV16f169J4-00257-00060864-00061142 i'm like all eckhart tolle now so +AmV16f169J4-00258-00061144-00061382 like meaning i was trying not to have +AmV16f169J4-00259-00061383-00061679 expectations like i did this and the +AmV16f169J4-00260-00061679-00061863 whole time i was like +AmV16f169J4-00261-00061864-00062103 i'm doing this for the experience that +AmV16f169J4-00262-00062104-00062238 this +AmV16f169J4-00263-00062239-00062415 that that i'm having and for the people +AmV16f169J4-00264-00062416-00062606 that this is going to help and i knew i +AmV16f169J4-00265-00062607-00062847 just let go of control i like complete +AmV16f169J4-00266-00062848-00063111 control because the editors they have +AmV16f169J4-00267-00063112-00063254 all to say so +AmV16f169J4-00268-00063255-00063494 if i tried to like have this big +AmV16f169J4-00269-00063495-00063766 expectation that was just causing myself +AmV16f169J4-00270-00063767-00064006 suffering so i kind of like let that go +AmV16f169J4-00271-00064007-00064215 from the beginning and just try to be my +AmV16f169J4-00272-00064216-00064423 highest self the whole time and +AmV16f169J4-00273-00064424-00064519 and +AmV16f169J4-00274-00064520-00064815 be as real as i could without um you +AmV16f169J4-00275-00064816-00064991 know hurting my kids i was thinking of +AmV16f169J4-00276-00064991-00065199 my kids the whole time and just trying +AmV16f169J4-00277-00065200-00065294 to be +AmV16f169J4-00278-00065295-00065471 like +AmV16f169J4-00279-00065472-00065663 trying to put forth +AmV16f169J4-00280-00065664-00065759 um +AmV16f169J4-00281-00065760-00066126 something a product that was going to +AmV16f169J4-00282-00066127-00066382 help me but me five years ago you know +AmV16f169J4-00283-00066383-00066550 and uh +AmV16f169J4-00284-00066551-00066823 it it has blown me away it's i thought +AmV16f169J4-00285-00066824-00067006 that that it turned out really good +AmV16f169J4-00286-00067007-00067279 there's a few um little +AmV16f169J4-00287-00067280-00067503 editing things that were kind of hard +AmV16f169J4-00288-00067504-00067863 for lena and i were um +AmV16f169J4-00289-00067864-00068038 it's tv right so +AmV16f169J4-00290-00068039-00068382 they they conflated a few things and and +AmV16f169J4-00291-00068383-00068631 that's okay i mean that's tv and that's +AmV16f169J4-00292-00068632-00068831 kind of like why you have to let go of +AmV16f169J4-00293-00068832-00069079 control overall the message obviously +AmV16f169J4-00294-00069080-00069303 came across we've been inundated with +AmV16f169J4-00295-00069304-00069535 love and just like this has changed my +AmV16f169J4-00296-00069536-00069847 life and thank you for doing this so um +AmV16f169J4-00297-00069848-00070335 i think the response speaks for itself +AmV16f169J4-00298-00070336-00070526 lena you originally talked about being +AmV16f169J4-00299-00070527-00070782 stupidly in love +AmV16f169J4-00300-00070783-00071006 which i love that i love that line +AmV16f169J4-00301-00071007-00071126 um +AmV16f169J4-00302-00071127-00071238 and when we were in the beginning +AmV16f169J4-00303-00071239-00072255 episode nan you were stupidly mormon +AmV16f169J4-00304-00072256-00072638 and i say that with the kindest of +AmV16f169J4-00305-00072639-00072791 descriptors +AmV16f169J4-00306-00072792-00072991 my question is actually as a mormon +AmV16f169J4-00307-00072992-00073279 family when your child comes out this is +AmV16f169J4-00308-00073280-00073447 this is an arena we don't spend a lot of +AmV16f169J4-00309-00073448-00073615 time talking about the parents +AmV16f169J4-00310-00073616-00073815 perspective it's it's often really +AmV16f169J4-00311-00073816-00074150 difficult for the person to come out uh +AmV16f169J4-00312-00074151-00074303 you have now put on display through +AmV16f169J4-00313-00074304-00074487 mormon no more your whole family's +AmV16f169J4-00314-00074488-00074799 experience with sal's coming out um i'm +AmV16f169J4-00315-00074800-00075023 curious what your how your family has +AmV16f169J4-00316-00075024-00075247 grown uh and what were your thoughts +AmV16f169J4-00317-00075248-00075471 originally when she came out +AmV16f169J4-00318-00075472-00075671 with the lens of mormonism and then not +AmV16f169J4-00319-00075672-00075871 giving spoilers away as we go through +AmV16f169J4-00320-00075872-00076055 the the series +AmV16f169J4-00321-00076056-00076359 and maybe just a brief intro as to how +AmV16f169J4-00322-00076360-00076591 that has shifted or grown in +AmV16f169J4-00323-00076592-00076662 in +AmV16f169J4-00324-00076663-00077087 expectation +AmV16f169J4-00325-00077088-00077287 when sally came out +AmV16f169J4-00326-00077288-00077655 it was first of all a big surprise +AmV16f169J4-00327-00077656-00077823 but as you can see through all these +AmV16f169J4-00328-00077824-00078006 photos and family videos it shouldn't +AmV16f169J4-00329-00078007-00078526 have been a surprise +AmV16f169J4-00330-00078527-00078782 when we watch him now we're like how did +AmV16f169J4-00331-00078783-00079071 we not see something there but anyway it +AmV16f169J4-00332-00079072-00079247 was a big surprise +AmV16f169J4-00333-00079248-00079471 that took a little bit of time to +AmV16f169J4-00334-00079472-00079606 to adjust to +AmV16f169J4-00335-00079607-00079959 but then after that it was all systems +AmV16f169J4-00336-00079960-00080079 go +AmV16f169J4-00337-00080080-00080382 i was on board i think all of us were on +AmV16f169J4-00338-00080383-00080671 board joe was on his mission when sally +AmV16f169J4-00339-00080672-00080935 came out she called him on his mission +AmV16f169J4-00340-00080936-00081135 and he just said +AmV16f169J4-00341-00081136-00081447 i'm here with you sally i love you i was +AmV16f169J4-00342-00081448-00081823 really proud of our family for that +AmV16f169J4-00343-00081824-00082047 as a mom +AmV16f169J4-00344-00082048-00082287 the biggest thing +AmV16f169J4-00345-00082288-00082503 i had to learn +AmV16f169J4-00346-00082504-00082782 was to how to show love to sally in a +AmV16f169J4-00347-00082783-00083118 way that she felt loved +AmV16f169J4-00348-00083119-00083262 because my +AmV16f169J4-00349-00083263-00083550 usual ways +AmV16f169J4-00350-00083551-00083791 weren't going to work as much now +AmV16f169J4-00351-00083792-00084006 and i had to figure that out +AmV16f169J4-00352-00084007-00084103 and +AmV16f169J4-00353-00084104-00084375 there were plenty of times that i +AmV16f169J4-00354-00084376-00084655 didn't do that very successfully +AmV16f169J4-00355-00084656-00084926 um but sally +AmV16f169J4-00356-00084927-00085150 you know we talk about holding space for +AmV16f169J4-00357-00085151-00085399 our loved ones and their new +AmV16f169J4-00358-00085400-00085494 life +AmV16f169J4-00359-00085495-00085767 sally held space for me +AmV16f169J4-00360-00085768-00086047 just as much as i held for her so when i +AmV16f169J4-00361-00086048-00086294 said something that later i learned hurt +AmV16f169J4-00362-00086295-00086415 her feelings +AmV16f169J4-00363-00086416-00086655 at the time she didn't say anything and +AmV16f169J4-00364-00086656-00086871 she did not take offense +AmV16f169J4-00365-00086872-00087199 which allowed me to not be nervous about +AmV16f169J4-00366-00087200-00087462 how i spoke and what i said +AmV16f169J4-00367-00087463-00087559 so +AmV16f169J4-00368-00087560-00087655 she +AmV16f169J4-00369-00087656-00088031 she helped me and led the way in that +AmV16f169J4-00370-00088032-00088343 our whole family has grown in ways we +AmV16f169J4-00371-00088344-00088559 didn't know we needed to grow +AmV16f169J4-00372-00088560-00088735 i didn't know i needed to grow i was the +AmV16f169J4-00373-00088736-00088926 relief society president i've got it +AmV16f169J4-00374-00088927-00089167 covered +AmV16f169J4-00375-00089168-00089382 well +AmV16f169J4-00376-00089383-00089494 but +AmV16f169J4-00377-00089495-00089638 this was +AmV16f169J4-00378-00089639-00089847 i look at it now like +AmV16f169J4-00379-00089848-00090094 sally gave us the gift +AmV16f169J4-00380-00090095-00090494 of the opportunity to expand ourselves +AmV16f169J4-00381-00090495-00090615 and to grow +AmV16f169J4-00382-00090616-00091091 and i will be forever thankful +AmV16f169J4-00383-00091092-00091567 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00384-00091568-00091935 the episode hinted or brought into um +AmV16f169J4-00385-00091936-00092175 kind of the worldview your podcast +AmV16f169J4-00386-00092176-00092494 coming out coach +AmV16f169J4-00387-00092495-00092799 sorry peace out peace out +AmV16f169J4-00388-00092800-00092950 then the coming out coach +AmV16f169J4-00389-00092951-00093231 i'm wondering is it was it easier to +AmV16f169J4-00390-00093232-00093423 come out of the closet or come out of +AmV16f169J4-00391-00093424-00093718 the church +AmV16f169J4-00392-00093719-00094038 great question for lena first yes +AmV16f169J4-00393-00094039-00094206 well i feel like i +AmV16f169J4-00394-00094207-00094294 um +AmV16f169J4-00395-00094295-00094487 my answer is not +AmV16f169J4-00396-00094488-00094703 typical because i was a convert to the +AmV16f169J4-00397-00094704-00094791 church +AmV16f169J4-00398-00094792-00095150 and so i had those lovely 18 years +AmV16f169J4-00399-00095151-00095359 outside of mormonism my formative years +AmV16f169J4-00400-00095360-00095518 where i was taught +AmV16f169J4-00401-00095519-00095847 to have an inner knowing and to to trust +AmV16f169J4-00402-00095848-00095999 my inner knowing and to build that +AmV16f169J4-00403-00096000-00096238 confidence in myself and so when i was +AmV16f169J4-00404-00096239-00096462 baptized at byu when i was 18 and i was +AmV16f169J4-00405-00096463-00096767 a faithful member for 20 years of my +AmV16f169J4-00406-00096768-00096871 life +AmV16f169J4-00407-00096872-00096982 i +AmV16f169J4-00408-00096983-00097294 feel like every time i felt the spirit +AmV16f169J4-00409-00097295-00097631 it was that recognition of self and so +AmV16f169J4-00410-00097632-00097887 when i left the church i just gained +AmV16f169J4-00411-00097888-00098199 that i owned that again i got ownership +AmV16f169J4-00412-00098200-00098447 back of this thing that i gave away +AmV16f169J4-00413-00098448-00098615 and so it didn't feel foreign it felt +AmV16f169J4-00414-00098616-00098855 like i was coming back to myself +AmV16f169J4-00415-00098856-00099343 does that make sense +AmV16f169J4-00416-00099344-00099438 so +AmV16f169J4-00417-00099439-00099735 i gave a talk on easter sunday that was +AmV16f169J4-00418-00099736-00100055 my last time ever going to church +AmV16f169J4-00419-00100056-00100406 and i i was there she came to she came +AmV16f169J4-00420-00100407-00100582 to see me speak +AmV16f169J4-00421-00100583-00100662 and +AmV16f169J4-00422-00100663-00100871 it was an interesting experience +AmV16f169J4-00423-00100872-00101111 actually because and i said the talk to +AmV16f169J4-00424-00101112-00101199 you +AmV16f169J4-00425-00101200-00101591 yes i remember that too +AmV16f169J4-00426-00101592-00101782 [Laughter] +AmV16f169J4-00427-00101783-00101982 she it was probably the only dress left +AmV16f169J4-00428-00101983-00102150 in her closet i was already out of the +AmV16f169J4-00429-00102151-00102343 church for like a year and a half at +AmV16f169J4-00430-00102344-00102758 that point yeah so and i you know i +AmV16f169J4-00431-00102759-00102975 saw the audience and i just remember +AmV16f169J4-00432-00102976-00103127 everyone in the pews +AmV16f169J4-00433-00103128-00103230 kind of +AmV16f169J4-00434-00103231-00103382 feeling like there was this distance +AmV16f169J4-00435-00103383-00103558 between us that kept +AmV16f169J4-00436-00103559-00103742 getting bigger and bigger as i got +AmV16f169J4-00437-00103743-00103999 through my talk and it felt like these +AmV16f169J4-00438-00104000-00104190 cinderblock walls were being built and i +AmV16f169J4-00439-00104191-00104278 just +AmV16f169J4-00440-00104279-00104502 i felt this growth and this evolution +AmV16f169J4-00441-00104503-00104758 happening while i was speaking the words +AmV16f169J4-00442-00104759-00104951 and it was an a different kind of talk +AmV16f169J4-00443-00104952-00105151 than the average shock you would hear in +AmV16f169J4-00444-00105152-00105278 church it was +AmV16f169J4-00445-00105279-00105358 we +AmV16f169J4-00446-00105359-00105566 don't need to judge people we should we +AmV16f169J4-00447-00105567-00105743 shouldn't ever say what is the thing +AmV16f169J4-00448-00105744-00105927 hate this +AmV16f169J4-00449-00105928-00105999 love +AmV16f169J4-00450-00106000-00106175 love the sin hate this whatever you know +AmV16f169J4-00451-00106176-00106543 what i'm saying hate the sin +AmV16f169J4-00452-00106544-00106710 love this sinner +AmV16f169J4-00453-00106711-00106910 yes i wanted to just do away with all +AmV16f169J4-00454-00106911-00107110 that and i was +AmV16f169J4-00455-00107111-00107519 very um open about how i felt because my +AmV16f169J4-00456-00107520-00107766 sweet son was sitting in the pew and +AmV16f169J4-00457-00107767-00107902 he's you know talking about his +AmV16f169J4-00458-00107903-00108158 sexuality from two years old and so in +AmV16f169J4-00459-00108159-00108358 my mind i'm like this is not a safe +AmV16f169J4-00460-00108359-00108478 place for him +AmV16f169J4-00461-00108479-00108671 and so by the time i finish that talk +AmV16f169J4-00462-00108672-00108910 it's like i came to terms with myself +AmV16f169J4-00463-00108911-00109151 that this was going to be my last sunday +AmV16f169J4-00464-00109152-00109254 in church +AmV16f169J4-00465-00109255-00109583 and it was that friday i came out so i +AmV16f169J4-00466-00109583-00109783 never went back so i i would say it +AmV16f169J4-00467-00109783-00110102 happened at the same time for me +AmV16f169J4-00468-00110103-00110295 yeah +AmV16f169J4-00469-00110296-00110590 you're privileged +AmV16f169J4-00470-00110591-00110702 uh +AmV16f169J4-00471-00110703-00110951 yeah um i would say leaving the church +AmV16f169J4-00472-00110952-00111278 was harder uh for sure because it's like +AmV16f169J4-00473-00111279-00111439 everything i knew was an existential +AmV16f169J4-00474-00111440-00111751 crisis like i was a wreck i did not i +AmV16f169J4-00475-00111752-00112071 was super super super traumatized +AmV16f169J4-00476-00112072-00112247 uh coming out +AmV16f169J4-00477-00112248-00112415 wasn't that hard +AmV16f169J4-00478-00112416-00112599 compared to like getting divorced so it +AmV16f169J4-00479-00112600-00112823 was like breaking up the family and +AmV16f169J4-00480-00112824-00112958 telling my husband and going through +AmV16f169J4-00481-00112959-00113158 that was very difficult +AmV16f169J4-00482-00113159-00113543 coming out at that point um i was +AmV16f169J4-00483-00113544-00113719 uh like i heard somebody say the other +AmV16f169J4-00484-00113720-00114007 day it's it's 2022 if you're not gay +AmV16f169J4-00485-00114008-00114343 grow up +AmV16f169J4-00486-00114344-00114599 it's good right +AmV16f169J4-00487-00114600-00114710 so +AmV16f169J4-00488-00114711-00114943 i wasn't mormon anymore and i was like +AmV16f169J4-00489-00114944-00115263 not you know like scared to be gay but i +AmV16f169J4-00490-00115264-00115686 i was married and all that so yeah +AmV16f169J4-00491-00115688-00115799 we have a lot of mixed orientation +AmV16f169J4-00492-00115800-00116078 marriage stories we can share yeah +AmV16f169J4-00493-00116079-00116278 and i think one important part you kind +AmV16f169J4-00494-00116279-00116527 of hinted to it is that i didn't choose +AmV16f169J4-00495-00116528-00116839 to be gay but i did choose to be mormon +AmV16f169J4-00496-00116840-00117015 and one of those is intrinsic and the +AmV16f169J4-00497-00117016-00117334 other one i had a control over and so +AmV16f169J4-00498-00117335-00117519 that's an easy or +AmV16f169J4-00499-00117520-00117686 maybe a better way of navigating that +AmV16f169J4-00500-00117688-00117766 world +AmV16f169J4-00501-00117767-00117927 thank you for bringing up byu because +AmV16f169J4-00502-00117928-00118063 then i look i'm like really this is like +AmV16f169J4-00503-00118064-00118199 the b what we have the osborne's and +AmV16f169J4-00504-00118200-00118543 then the byu section +AmV16f169J4-00505-00118544-00118663 it's like oh president hinckley's old +AmV16f169J4-00506-00118664-00118783 quote you're not much to look at but +AmV16f169J4-00507-00118783-00118990 you're all the lord has +AmV16f169J4-00508-00118991-00119254 this is what we get from byu maybe elder +AmV16f169J4-00509-00119255-00119671 holland was right +AmV16f169J4-00510-00119672-00119863 i'm just kidding +AmV16f169J4-00511-00119864-00120031 that's true +AmV16f169J4-00512-00120032-00120231 i want to start with you brad um +AmV16f169J4-00513-00120232-00120478 so you've now graduated from byu +AmV16f169J4-00514-00120479-00120710 you colored the campus literally in +AmV16f169J4-00515-00120711-00120910 rainbow colors +AmV16f169J4-00516-00120911-00121278 what have you seen change at +AmV16f169J4-00517-00121279-00121558 byu through the course of your advocacy +AmV16f169J4-00518-00121559-00121783 but also just public advocacy and +AmV16f169J4-00519-00121783-00122158 shining a light on byu's terrible or +AmV16f169J4-00520-00122159-00122399 complicated history with lgbtq students +AmV16f169J4-00521-00122400-00122790 and the community +AmV16f169J4-00522-00122791-00122878 so +AmV16f169J4-00523-00122879-00123286 i started at byu in 2017 +AmV16f169J4-00524-00123288-00123527 and um +AmV16f169J4-00525-00123528-00123751 i've shared this a few times but +AmV16f169J4-00526-00123752-00124031 uh during my freshman year i took the +AmV16f169J4-00527-00124032-00124134 infamous +AmV16f169J4-00528-00124135-00124319 eternal families class +AmV16f169J4-00529-00124320-00124431 um +AmV16f169J4-00530-00124432-00124671 and i actually took it with my then +AmV16f169J4-00531-00124672-00124951 kind of girlfriend which was interesting +AmV16f169J4-00532-00124952-00125078 um +AmV16f169J4-00533-00125079-00125231 it didn't work out +AmV16f169J4-00534-00125232-00125447 and +AmV16f169J4-00535-00125448-00125654 there was a time where the professor was +AmV16f169J4-00536-00125655-00125919 talking about lgbtq experiences and +AmV16f169J4-00537-00125920-00126127 things like that and there was a kid who +AmV16f169J4-00538-00126128-00126271 was like couple rows away from me and he +AmV16f169J4-00539-00126272-00126551 raised his hand and he said you know i +AmV16f169J4-00540-00126552-00126719 don't care if you want to be gay i don't +AmV16f169J4-00541-00126720-00126854 care if you want to be trans i don't +AmV16f169J4-00542-00126855-00127143 just why do i have to be their friend +AmV16f169J4-00543-00127144-00127375 why do i have to go out of my way and +AmV16f169J4-00544-00127376-00127566 reach out to somebody we're not going to +AmV16f169J4-00545-00127567-00127775 get along +AmV16f169J4-00546-00127776-00127990 and i wasn't out +AmV16f169J4-00547-00127991-00128239 at that point and i remember thinking +AmV16f169J4-00548-00128240-00128383 like +AmV16f169J4-00549-00128383-00128558 you don't even know me +AmV16f169J4-00550-00128559-00128766 and you already don't want to be my +AmV16f169J4-00551-00128767-00128934 friend you don't care +AmV16f169J4-00552-00128935-00129047 um +AmV16f169J4-00553-00129048-00129263 had some other experiences with other +AmV16f169J4-00554-00129264-00129614 classmates roommates family members +AmV16f169J4-00555-00129615-00129823 and eventually just found myself +AmV16f169J4-00556-00129824-00130095 just totally alone and i thought +AmV16f169J4-00557-00130096-00130558 there is like no one who cares about me +AmV16f169J4-00558-00130559-00130919 and so i was inspired to +AmV16f169J4-00559-00130920-00131111 start color the campus i actually had a +AmV16f169J4-00560-00131112-00131319 dream +AmV16f169J4-00561-00131320-00131599 funny how that happens +AmV16f169J4-00562-00131600-00131847 i had a dream that i painted campus in +AmV16f169J4-00563-00131848-00132007 rainbow colors +AmV16f169J4-00564-00132008-00132223 um and it happened a few times it was +AmV16f169J4-00565-00132224-00132583 recurring and i was like what is that +AmV16f169J4-00566-00132584-00132799 that's weird +AmV16f169J4-00567-00132800-00132935 um +AmV16f169J4-00568-00132936-00133183 but one thing led to another i started +AmV16f169J4-00569-00133184-00133383 an account i was still like pretty +AmV16f169J4-00570-00133384-00133639 closeted um i started an account i was +AmV16f169J4-00571-00133640-00133759 like i'll just be anonymous and just +AmV16f169J4-00572-00133760-00133975 start like sharing things and what if we +AmV16f169J4-00573-00133976-00134135 all just like wore rainbow like it +AmV16f169J4-00574-00134136-00134271 doesn't mean anything just like wear +AmV16f169J4-00575-00134272-00134399 rainbow +AmV16f169J4-00576-00134400-00134735 um just to show like i don't need to +AmV16f169J4-00577-00134736-00134847 know you +AmV16f169J4-00578-00134848-00135023 but i will be your friend +AmV16f169J4-00579-00135024-00135511 because i felt like +AmV16f169J4-00580-00135512-00135751 because i felt like so many people +AmV16f169J4-00581-00135752-00135975 didn't know me and didn't want to be my +AmV16f169J4-00582-00135976-00136095 friend +AmV16f169J4-00583-00136096-00136278 um +AmV16f169J4-00584-00136279-00136502 and it grew it started with just like my +AmV16f169J4-00585-00136503-00136735 family and then it grew to bigger and +AmV16f169J4-00586-00136736-00136919 then it got huge +AmV16f169J4-00587-00136920-00137031 um +AmV16f169J4-00588-00137032-00137111 so +AmV16f169J4-00589-00137112-00137407 the the change has been really +AmV16f169J4-00590-00137408-00137631 overwhelming and inspiring to see by the +AmV16f169J4-00591-00137632-00137854 time i graduated i was like there are +AmV16f169J4-00592-00137855-00137975 people +AmV16f169J4-00593-00137976-00138287 who love me and care about me and want +AmV16f169J4-00594-00138288-00138447 to be my friend +AmV16f169J4-00595-00138448-00138678 um there's so many other groups on +AmV16f169J4-00596-00138679-00138847 campus that have started +AmV16f169J4-00597-00138848-00139102 that have told me that i inspired them +AmV16f169J4-00598-00139103-00139199 to +AmV16f169J4-00599-00139200-00139343 start +AmV16f169J4-00600-00139344-00139583 their organizations and more people are +AmV16f169J4-00601-00139584-00139743 talking about it which really that was +AmV16f169J4-00602-00139744-00139959 the biggest thing that i felt was hard +AmV16f169J4-00603-00139960-00140143 was no one wanted to talk about it and +AmV16f169J4-00604-00140144-00140335 so we couldn't get anywhere now +AmV16f169J4-00605-00140336-00140487 everyone's talking about it sometimes we +AmV16f169J4-00606-00140488-00140647 talk about it too much +AmV16f169J4-00607-00140648-00140823 um +AmV16f169J4-00608-00140824-00140902 so +AmV16f169J4-00609-00140903-00141078 it's it's really great to see and it's a +AmV16f169J4-00610-00141079-00141327 totally different and i +AmV16f169J4-00611-00141328-00141519 can only imagine if i had seen that when +AmV16f169J4-00612-00141520-00141687 i had first started byu i would have had +AmV16f169J4-00613-00141688-00141871 a very different experience and it would +AmV16f169J4-00614-00141872-00142583 have meant the world to me so +AmV16f169J4-00615-00142584-00142719 i do have a question specifically for +AmV16f169J4-00616-00142720-00143126 you wren as well being a student at byu +AmV16f169J4-00617-00143127-00143311 byu has done a number of things for +AmV16f169J4-00618-00143312-00143590 better or for worse to try to +AmV16f169J4-00619-00143591-00143902 navigate the its lgbtq relationship +AmV16f169J4-00620-00143903-00144054 given what brad just talked about and +AmV16f169J4-00621-00144055-00144287 you still being a current student at byu +AmV16f169J4-00622-00144288-00144447 and byu's +AmV16f169J4-00623-00144448-00144783 inclusion of the byu office of belonging +AmV16f169J4-00624-00144784-00144975 an organization trying to bridge these +AmV16f169J4-00625-00144976-00145135 gaps between +AmV16f169J4-00626-00145136-00145543 sexuality and their reality +AmV16f169J4-00627-00145544-00145814 was brad effective is the byu office of +AmV16f169J4-00628-00145815-00146143 belonging effective and what can byu do +AmV16f169J4-00629-00146144-00146431 at this point to help students like you +AmV16f169J4-00630-00146432-00146790 feel seen noticed and wanted at a church +AmV16f169J4-00631-00146791-00147039 education system school +AmV16f169J4-00632-00147040-00147375 all right that's a big question +AmV16f169J4-00633-00147376-00147631 okay so i think brad is super effective +AmV16f169J4-00634-00147632-00147790 i remember rainbow days were one of my +AmV16f169J4-00635-00147791-00147935 first like +AmV16f169J4-00636-00147936-00148102 interactions with other queer members on +AmV16f169J4-00637-00148103-00148278 campus and it was like +AmV16f169J4-00638-00148279-00148502 so amazing for me to find out i wasn't +AmV16f169J4-00639-00148503-00148695 alone i started byu 2018 it's only a +AmV16f169J4-00640-00148696-00148902 year after brad i've got a year to go i +AmV16f169J4-00641-00148903-00149223 switched my major too many times +AmV16f169J4-00642-00149224-00149366 um +AmV16f169J4-00643-00149367-00149551 and and i just wrote a paper on this and +AmV16f169J4-00644-00149552-00149671 i just published it so i feel like i +AmV16f169J4-00645-00149672-00150031 should be like really prepared for this +AmV16f169J4-00646-00150032-00150119 so +AmV16f169J4-00647-00150120-00150302 regarding rainbows i think they're super +AmV16f169J4-00648-00150303-00150487 great they're super effective they are +AmV16f169J4-00649-00150488-00150671 one of the most vocal shows of support +AmV16f169J4-00650-00150672-00150966 on campus for byu's queer students +AmV16f169J4-00651-00150967-00151287 so thank you brad um +AmV16f169J4-00652-00151288-00151447 then the opposite belonging they're +AmV16f169J4-00653-00151448-00151671 still getting it up and running +AmV16f169J4-00654-00151672-00151814 what they have right now is the office +AmV16f169J4-00655-00151815-00152119 of student success and inclusion which +AmV16f169J4-00656-00152120-00152359 they do like confidential events but +AmV16f169J4-00657-00152360-00152511 they don't get great turnout as far as +AmV16f169J4-00658-00152512-00152671 i've seen i feel like the +AmV16f169J4-00659-00152672-00152823 organizations that are making the most +AmV16f169J4-00660-00152824-00152990 change of byu students is things like +AmV16f169J4-00661-00152991-00153159 usga which meets weekly during the +AmV16f169J4-00662-00153160-00153271 school year and +AmV16f169J4-00663-00153272-00153399 rainbow days +AmV16f169J4-00664-00153400-00153559 um +AmV16f169J4-00665-00153560-00153678 what was the next part of the question +AmV16f169J4-00666-00153679-00153975 what can byu do to best support queer +AmV16f169J4-00667-00153976-00154071 students +AmV16f169J4-00668-00154072-00154287 um +AmV16f169J4-00669-00154288-00154447 well this might be a little radical to +AmV16f169J4-00670-00154448-00154832 say they could give us rights +AmV16f169J4-00671-00154833-00155511 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00672-00155512-00155775 like +AmV16f169J4-00673-00155776-00155943 like first of all i want to be able to +AmV16f169J4-00674-00155944-00156143 date without like being scared i'm going +AmV16f169J4-00675-00156144-00156302 to get kicked out +AmV16f169J4-00676-00156303-00156543 um +AmV16f169J4-00677-00156544-00156711 i want to be able to wear my little crop +AmV16f169J4-00678-00156712-00156926 tops and not get told by my ta who's an +AmV16f169J4-00679-00156927-00157087 elderly lady but that's not honor code +AmV16f169J4-00680-00157088-00157214 appropriate +AmV16f169J4-00681-00157215-00157335 um +AmV16f169J4-00682-00157336-00157590 that happened to me on last wednesday +AmV16f169J4-00683-00157591-00157766 like the lady was like you need to pull +AmV16f169J4-00684-00157767-00157887 your shirt down that's an undercut +AmV16f169J4-00685-00157888-00158087 appropriate i was like i'm sorry i was +AmV16f169J4-00686-00158088-00158207 showing less than an inch of skin i +AmV16f169J4-00687-00158208-00158566 didn't realize it would be an issue um +AmV16f169J4-00688-00158567-00158678 i think +AmV16f169J4-00689-00158679-00158863 in more +AmV16f169J4-00690-00158864-00159207 solid terms we could +AmV16f169J4-00691-00159208-00159502 how do i phrase this +AmV16f169J4-00692-00159503-00159726 i think what byu needs to do is to show +AmV16f169J4-00693-00159727-00159871 more vocal support for students and +AmV16f169J4-00694-00159872-00160071 actually like stop persecuting questions +AmV16f169J4-00695-00160072-00160278 i have a friend who's actually also in +AmV16f169J4-00696-00160279-00160414 the documentary +AmV16f169J4-00697-00160415-00160614 um as one of the other anonymous byu +AmV16f169J4-00698-00160615-00160831 students and they are currently +AmV16f169J4-00699-00160832-00160983 under investigation from the honor code +AmV16f169J4-00700-00160984-00161119 office +AmV16f169J4-00701-00161120-00161247 so +AmV16f169J4-00702-00161248-00161407 i think we need to stop investigating +AmV16f169J4-00703-00161408-00161575 queer students for things +AmV16f169J4-00704-00161576-00161719 that straight students want to get +AmV16f169J4-00705-00161720-00162383 investigated for +AmV16f169J4-00706-00162384-00162623 and i think that we just need to be more +AmV16f169J4-00707-00162624-00162790 christ-like and show love to our fellow +AmV16f169J4-00708-00162791-00162943 man because christ never said anything +AmV16f169J4-00709-00162944-00163287 about being gay +AmV16f169J4-00710-00163288-00163759 thank you thank you +AmV16f169J4-00711-00163760-00163878 i want to talk about one of the leading +AmV16f169J4-00712-00163879-00164151 causes of death in utah and especially +AmV16f169J4-00713-00164152-00164487 among this population suicide +AmV16f169J4-00714-00164488-00164687 and the white stole +AmV16f169J4-00715-00164688-00164911 i've interviewed you +AmV16f169J4-00716-00164912-00165143 i didn't know i had no idea of the white +AmV16f169J4-00717-00165144-00165283 stole story +AmV16f169J4-00718-00165284-00165719 um why i mean i know harry i know how +AmV16f169J4-00719-00165720-00165911 important the harry fisher story is to +AmV16f169J4-00720-00165912-00166231 you matt +AmV16f169J4-00721-00166232-00166535 why in +AmV16f169J4-00722-00166536-00166783 in that opportunity where you took that +AmV16f169J4-00723-00166784-00166990 white stolen your hands what was it +AmV16f169J4-00724-00166991-00167102 about +AmV16f169J4-00725-00167103-00167390 him of all people that caused you to do +AmV16f169J4-00726-00167391-00167831 what you did and then maybe +AmV16f169J4-00727-00167832-00168087 by doing what you did i mean writing a +AmV16f169J4-00728-00168088-00168278 little tribute to him and then maybe +AmV16f169J4-00729-00168279-00168414 give the audience a little bit of a +AmV16f169J4-00730-00168415-00168551 better understanding as to your +AmV16f169J4-00731-00168552-00168975 relationship with paul uh harry's dad +AmV16f169J4-00732-00168976-00169199 absolutely um i think the documentary +AmV16f169J4-00733-00169200-00169326 probably said it best so i'll try to +AmV16f169J4-00734-00169327-00169526 keep it short but +AmV16f169J4-00735-00169527-00169783 yeah i remember being a freshman and +AmV16f169J4-00736-00169784-00169999 and the first gay person i ever +AmV16f169J4-00737-00170000-00170135 personally knew +AmV16f169J4-00738-00170136-00170375 um died by suicide within three months +AmV16f169J4-00739-00170376-00170575 of me meeting him and +AmV16f169J4-00740-00170576-00170719 um +AmV16f169J4-00741-00170720-00170951 and i thought i was gonna end up the +AmV16f169J4-00742-00170952-00171087 same way you know i mean sally you +AmV16f169J4-00743-00171088-00171335 mentioned the same thing i think that +AmV16f169J4-00744-00171336-00171495 unfortunately the reality is is that +AmV16f169J4-00745-00171496-00171671 probably every queer person you talk to +AmV16f169J4-00746-00171672-00171854 has thought about taking their own life +AmV16f169J4-00747-00171855-00171966 um +AmV16f169J4-00748-00171967-00172287 if not they're one of the very lucky few +AmV16f169J4-00749-00172288-00172519 um and so when i decided to put harry's +AmV16f169J4-00750-00172520-00172766 name on my stole i +AmV16f169J4-00751-00172767-00172878 i wanted +AmV16f169J4-00752-00172879-00173063 to honor him like i said i wanted to +AmV16f169J4-00753-00173064-00173287 carry him across that stage and i wanted +AmV16f169J4-00754-00173288-00173495 to say for every future harry fisher out +AmV16f169J4-00755-00173496-00173631 there in the crowd +AmV16f169J4-00756-00173632-00173719 um +AmV16f169J4-00757-00173720-00173935 i'm we've got your back you can do this +AmV16f169J4-00758-00173936-00174126 you're gonna pull through +AmV16f169J4-00759-00174127-00174238 and um +AmV16f169J4-00760-00174239-00174351 and we can +AmV16f169J4-00761-00174352-00174535 have a amazing time we you know +AmV16f169J4-00762-00174536-00174719 we can yes +AmV16f169J4-00763-00174720-00174887 i uh it is +AmV16f169J4-00764-00174888-00175054 like kyle said it's uh one of the +AmV16f169J4-00765-00175055-00175207 leading causes of death among our +AmV16f169J4-00766-00175208-00175566 population especially here in utah and +AmV16f169J4-00767-00175567-00175743 we will never stop talking about it +AmV16f169J4-00768-00175744-00175911 until it stops happening and +AmV16f169J4-00769-00175912-00176135 unfortunately the reality is is that +AmV16f169J4-00770-00176136-00176295 every general conference when it comes +AmV16f169J4-00771-00176296-00176551 around the trevor project lines are full +AmV16f169J4-00772-00176552-00176871 of of people who are idealizing suicide +AmV16f169J4-00773-00176872-00177223 um i've called that same line um before +AmV16f169J4-00774-00177224-00177414 and um +AmV16f169J4-00775-00177415-00177590 yeah something's got to change and it +AmV16f169J4-00776-00177591-00177807 starts with us here in this theater but +AmV16f169J4-00777-00177808-00178031 it cannot end here and um that's one +AmV16f169J4-00778-00178032-00178319 thing that i know for sure +AmV16f169J4-00779-00178320-00178663 oh yes yes +AmV16f169J4-00780-00178664-00178854 um so as you seen the documentary uh +AmV16f169J4-00781-00178855-00178990 that actually was the very first time +AmV16f169J4-00782-00178991-00179175 that i ever met paul fisher +AmV16f169J4-00783-00179176-00179343 um i +AmV16f169J4-00784-00179344-00179454 i knew it +AmV16f169J4-00785-00179455-00179623 harry's story obviously impacted me but +AmV16f169J4-00786-00179624-00179814 i didn't know his family at all after i +AmV16f169J4-00787-00179815-00180047 graduated things got crazy i moved out +AmV16f169J4-00788-00180048-00180263 of state and then the pandemic kid and +AmV16f169J4-00789-00180264-00180431 so i actually never had a chance to meet +AmV16f169J4-00790-00180432-00180695 this family um and so when sally and +AmV16f169J4-00791-00180696-00180831 lena reached out and said hey we're +AmV16f169J4-00792-00180832-00180983 doing this documentary i get interviewed +AmV16f169J4-00793-00180984-00181238 i tell them my inspiration and they said +AmV16f169J4-00794-00181239-00181431 matt you got to give that stole to +AmV16f169J4-00795-00181432-00181575 harry's family and i thought yes i've +AmV16f169J4-00796-00181576-00181831 been waiting three years to do this um +AmV16f169J4-00797-00181832-00182023 harry's harry's dad is actually not a +AmV16f169J4-00798-00182024-00182175 member of the church +AmV16f169J4-00799-00182176-00182390 his mother is so there is some conflict +AmV16f169J4-00800-00182391-00182654 i know in their family with um their +AmV16f169J4-00801-00182655-00182838 their own religious identity +AmV16f169J4-00802-00182839-00183023 but meeting paul +AmV16f169J4-00803-00183024-00183231 was just so special i mean it was this +AmV16f169J4-00804-00183232-00183511 person that i finally got a chance to to +AmV16f169J4-00805-00183512-00183783 tell harry's family um that he really +AmV16f169J4-00806-00183784-00184063 did save my life and and uh i hope i can +AmV16f169J4-00807-00184064-00184311 do the same i i know that sally and lena +AmV16f169J4-00808-00184312-00184583 rin and and um bradley +AmV16f169J4-00809-00184584-00184743 that's what we're here to do is to save +AmV16f169J4-00810-00184744-00184895 these lives +AmV16f169J4-00811-00184896-00184999 thank you +AmV16f169J4-00812-00185000-00185247 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00813-00185248-00185447 sally you brought up that same uh +AmV16f169J4-00814-00185448-00185719 sediment uh suicidal ideation and and +AmV16f169J4-00815-00185720-00186038 the risk of suicide at lgbtq uh mormons +AmV16f169J4-00816-00186039-00186295 in particular experience +AmV16f169J4-00817-00186296-00186471 navigating this journey +AmV16f169J4-00818-00186472-00186847 i wonder what your thoughts are about uh +AmV16f169J4-00819-00186848-00187087 young sally who's questioning who and +AmV16f169J4-00820-00187088-00187207 what she is +AmV16f169J4-00821-00187208-00187495 would a documentary like mormon know +AmV16f169J4-00822-00187496-00187726 more would it have made a difference in +AmV16f169J4-00823-00187727-00187847 your journey +AmV16f169J4-00824-00187848-00188263 and the same question to you lena after +AmV16f169J4-00825-00188264-00188350 wow +AmV16f169J4-00826-00188351-00188511 i +AmV16f169J4-00827-00188512-00188735 i didn't even know any +AmV16f169J4-00828-00188736-00189095 i didn't even know of any out gay people +AmV16f169J4-00829-00189096-00189359 like other than what ellen when she came +AmV16f169J4-00830-00189360-00189431 out +AmV16f169J4-00831-00189432-00189519 and +AmV16f169J4-00832-00189520-00189823 i'm serious like i lived in north idaho +AmV16f169J4-00833-00189824-00190095 in coeur d'alene idaho and +AmV16f169J4-00834-00190096-00190254 yeah +AmV16f169J4-00835-00190255-00190550 and um very mormon and +AmV16f169J4-00836-00190551-00190647 um +AmV16f169J4-00837-00190648-00190854 you guys you know like they protected me +AmV16f169J4-00838-00190855-00190959 from +AmV16f169J4-00839-00190960-00191175 anything that was like queer curious +AmV16f169J4-00840-00191176-00191343 they're like no no they're not +AmV16f169J4-00841-00191344-00191647 no and they just like nope i know in +AmV16f169J4-00842-00191648-00191863 fact like you had a friend that was gay +AmV16f169J4-00843-00191864-00192087 when we lived in houston and i knew it +AmV16f169J4-00844-00192088-00192238 but you guys wouldn't talk about it you +AmV16f169J4-00845-00192239-00192526 know so it was +AmV16f169J4-00846-00192527-00192823 not only taboo but like very unknown and +AmV16f169J4-00847-00192824-00192983 this would have completely i would have +AmV16f169J4-00848-00192984-00193166 been just like +AmV16f169J4-00849-00193167-00193350 mind blown +AmV16f169J4-00850-00193351-00193550 if this would have come out when i was a +AmV16f169J4-00851-00193551-00193878 kid and would have definitely +AmV16f169J4-00852-00193879-00193990 you know +AmV16f169J4-00853-00193991-00194447 made me +AmV16f169J4-00854-00194448-00194831 have more courage you know like not only +AmV16f169J4-00855-00194832-00195007 not only would it have helped me to feel +AmV16f169J4-00856-00195008-00195319 better about myself but would have +AmV16f169J4-00857-00195320-00195502 changed the trajectory of my life for +AmV16f169J4-00858-00195503-00195766 sure +AmV16f169J4-00859-00195767-00195895 love you +AmV16f169J4-00860-00195896-00196214 okay so unfortunately +AmV16f169J4-00861-00196215-00196383 members of the church +AmV16f169J4-00862-00196384-00196543 including myself +AmV16f169J4-00863-00196544-00196775 we don't consider leaving the church +AmV16f169J4-00864-00196776-00196990 until something like this happens within +AmV16f169J4-00865-00196991-00197190 the four walls of our own home +AmV16f169J4-00866-00197191-00197471 it's like when it affects you personally +AmV16f169J4-00867-00197472-00197599 all of a sudden you have to really think +AmV16f169J4-00868-00197600-00197695 about +AmV16f169J4-00869-00197696-00197878 is this a safe environment for my family +AmV16f169J4-00870-00197879-00198007 member and +AmV16f169J4-00871-00198008-00198247 and so on and so forth but +AmV16f169J4-00872-00198248-00198463 what i'm hoping that this documentary +AmV16f169J4-00873-00198464-00198719 will do is eliminate that step +AmV16f169J4-00874-00198720-00198919 so that people can see +AmV16f169J4-00875-00198920-00199207 the humanity in all of our stories +AmV16f169J4-00876-00199208-00199438 and how they kind of summed it up at the +AmV16f169J4-00877-00199439-00199695 end of the docu-series with sal and i +AmV16f169J4-00878-00199696-00199790 and +AmV16f169J4-00879-00199791-00199975 we're all so different but we're +AmV16f169J4-00880-00199976-00200143 literally all the same +AmV16f169J4-00881-00200144-00200295 you know we struggle with the same +AmV16f169J4-00882-00200296-00200614 things we have suicidal ideation across +AmV16f169J4-00883-00200615-00200799 the lgbtq community +AmV16f169J4-00884-00200800-00200983 and so on and so forth and i think there +AmV16f169J4-00885-00200984-00201214 is something really beautiful about the +AmV16f169J4-00886-00201215-00201390 message of the documentary for those who +AmV16f169J4-00887-00201391-00201583 are still currently going to church and +AmV16f169J4-00888-00201584-00201702 believe +AmV16f169J4-00889-00201703-00201966 in the church and that is that +AmV16f169J4-00890-00201967-00202087 if you +AmV16f169J4-00891-00202088-00202350 can just see the similarities between +AmV16f169J4-00892-00202351-00202607 yourself and the people on the screen it +AmV16f169J4-00893-00202608-00202790 will feel personal doesn't have to +AmV16f169J4-00894-00202791-00203023 happen in your own home does that make +AmV16f169J4-00895-00203024-00203678 sense yes +AmV16f169J4-00896-00203679-00204014 the osborne's you're not off the hook +AmV16f169J4-00897-00204015-00204175 you're in a situation i often call +AmV16f169J4-00898-00204176-00204350 forced free agency +AmV16f169J4-00899-00204351-00204566 you had no choice in accepting and +AmV16f169J4-00900-00204567-00204783 understanding this whole world +AmV16f169J4-00901-00204784-00205031 as as lena and sal have talked about it +AmV16f169J4-00902-00205032-00205294 is um when we sit around a kitchen table +AmV16f169J4-00903-00205296-00205431 we realize that the people that we're +AmV16f169J4-00904-00205432-00205710 talking about are no longer the things +AmV16f169J4-00905-00205711-00205871 we've heard about over the pulpit +AmV16f169J4-00906-00205871-00206055 they're no longer the +AmV16f169J4-00907-00206056-00206303 promises and +AmV16f169J4-00908-00206304-00206534 awful things that prophets and preachers +AmV16f169J4-00909-00206535-00206782 and pastors and parents have often said +AmV16f169J4-00910-00206783-00207006 about the lgbtq community +AmV16f169J4-00911-00207007-00207151 so uh +AmV16f169J4-00912-00207152-00207358 what things have you learned +AmV16f169J4-00913-00207359-00207598 as parents navigating this world and +AmV16f169J4-00914-00207600-00207886 especially to your brothers sally +AmV16f169J4-00915-00207887-00208175 how can the lgbt how can the lds +AmV16f169J4-00916-00208176-00208446 community be a better ally but even more +AmV16f169J4-00917-00208448-00208686 broadly as parents as family members and +AmV16f169J4-00918-00208687-00208903 then as community members building on +AmV16f169J4-00919-00208904-00209094 what lena has talked about how can we do +AmV16f169J4-00920-00209096-00209319 better in this space to support +AmV16f169J4-00921-00209319-00209934 both sides of this aisle +AmV16f169J4-00922-00209935-00210255 me +AmV16f169J4-00923-00210256-00210534 i still go to church +AmV16f169J4-00924-00210535-00210751 i go to church on sundays +AmV16f169J4-00925-00210752-00210831 uh +AmV16f169J4-00926-00210832-00211127 and i'm in a transitionary period where +AmV16f169J4-00927-00211128-00211255 i'm going to church +AmV16f169J4-00928-00211256-00211542 uh but i'm not really believing much of +AmV16f169J4-00929-00211544-00211687 it +AmV16f169J4-00930-00211688-00211879 and it's a it's a weird space to be in +AmV16f169J4-00931-00211880-00212271 and um it's +AmV16f169J4-00932-00212271-00212494 it's hard because i i hear a lot +AmV16f169J4-00933-00212496-00212639 of +AmV16f169J4-00934-00212640-00212975 of people talk about how do we how do we +AmV16f169J4-00935-00212976-00213271 help to help the mormon community be +AmV16f169J4-00936-00213271-00213494 more accepting of +AmV16f169J4-00937-00213496-00213871 lgbt people and +AmV16f169J4-00938-00213871-00214094 me right now i'm trying to do that like +AmV16f169J4-00939-00214096-00214310 as i go to church and i have my gay +AmV16f169J4-00940-00214311-00214542 sister and she's super cool and awesome +AmV16f169J4-00941-00214544-00214767 and i love her and i look up to her and +AmV16f169J4-00942-00214767-00214998 i try to advocate you know i try to tell +AmV16f169J4-00943-00215000-00215191 everybody about her and i try to do all +AmV16f169J4-00944-00215192-00215287 i can +AmV16f169J4-00945-00215288-00215479 but my situation at church me going +AmV16f169J4-00946-00215480-00215687 every week is unsustainable +AmV16f169J4-00947-00215688-00216063 um and every week it's harder to go +AmV16f169J4-00948-00216064-00216398 and every week i feel more +AmV16f169J4-00949-00216400-00216639 angry +AmV16f169J4-00950-00216640-00216855 and it's it's more and more difficult to +AmV16f169J4-00951-00216856-00217031 be there +AmV16f169J4-00952-00217032-00217310 as i see as i see +AmV16f169J4-00953-00217311-00217431 uh +AmV16f169J4-00954-00217432-00217767 youth and my ward who are gay and +AmV16f169J4-00955-00217767-00218055 and struggle and i hear things +AmV16f169J4-00956-00218056-00218255 that their parents +AmV16f169J4-00957-00218256-00218463 are saying to them or i hear things over +AmV16f169J4-00958-00218464-00218671 the pulpit +AmV16f169J4-00959-00218671-00219055 so it's a difficult question and +AmV16f169J4-00960-00219056-00219279 and i don't know if i have an answer but +AmV16f169J4-00961-00219280-00219311 um +AmV16f169J4-00962-00219312-00219423 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-00963-00219423-00219542 i think +AmV16f169J4-00964-00219544-00219887 visibility is key and uh to +AmV16f169J4-00965-00219888-00220198 to try to promote +AmV16f169J4-00966-00220200-00220471 i wear my pride pin every week to church +AmV16f169J4-00967-00220471-00220791 um i try to i try to help out you know +AmV16f169J4-00968-00220792-00221103 thanks +AmV16f169J4-00969-00221104-00221334 the other day i i took a i took a +AmV16f169J4-00970-00221335-00221494 handful of pins to church and and gave +AmV16f169J4-00971-00221496-00221894 them out to all the youth and uh +AmV16f169J4-00972-00221896-00222055 and um +AmV16f169J4-00973-00222056-00222127 i +AmV16f169J4-00974-00222128-00222415 i paint my nails a lot and so we had a +AmV16f169J4-00975-00222416-00222582 my deacon squirm we painted our nails +AmV16f169J4-00976-00222583-00222719 and then passed the sacrament the next +AmV16f169J4-00977-00222719-00222998 day +AmV16f169J4-00978-00223000-00223519 no son +AmV16f169J4-00979-00223519-00223767 just trying to be you know like get +AmV16f169J4-00980-00223767-00223982 people out of out of their comfort zone +AmV16f169J4-00981-00223983-00224103 a little bit and +AmV16f169J4-00982-00224104-00224246 let them know that it's okay to be +AmV16f169J4-00983-00224248-00224471 different and it's okay to be +AmV16f169J4-00984-00224471-00224615 uh +AmV16f169J4-00985-00224616-00224831 you know gay people aren't scary it's +AmV16f169J4-00986-00224832-00225087 not it's not it's not bad you know my +AmV16f169J4-00987-00225088-00225255 sister is not +AmV16f169J4-00988-00225256-00225767 bad and um +AmV16f169J4-00989-00225767-00225887 yeah +AmV16f169J4-00990-00225888-00226151 it's hard man it's hard but i think this +AmV16f169J4-00991-00226152-00226423 this show is huge and i hope i hope +AmV16f169J4-00992-00226423-00226606 people watch it i hope +AmV16f169J4-00993-00226607-00226806 i hope people in my word watch it i hope +AmV16f169J4-00994-00226807-00226991 those those parents of those gay kids +AmV16f169J4-00995-00226992-00227469 watch it so bad +AmV16f169J4-00996-00227469-00228191 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-00997-00228192-00228679 sam is awesome +AmV16f169J4-00998-00228680-00228823 the week before the last general +AmV16f169J4-00999-00228823-00228951 conference when elder renlund gave a +AmV16f169J4-01000-00228952-00229119 talk about heavenly mother he +AmV16f169J4-01001-00229119-00229310 in sacramento he prayed to heavenly +AmV16f169J4-01002-00229311-00229752 mother at the pulpit it was +AmV16f169J4-01003-00229753-00230223 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01004-00230223-00230391 um +AmV16f169J4-01005-00230392-00230582 i was on my mission in australia when +AmV16f169J4-01006-00230583-00230703 sally came out to me i had about two +AmV16f169J4-01007-00230704-00230919 months left and +AmV16f169J4-01008-00230919-00231087 she's like my mom +AmV16f169J4-01009-00231088-00231215 messaged me and she's like hey sally +AmV16f169J4-01010-00231216-00231310 wants to talk to you i was like oh +AmV16f169J4-01011-00231311-00231503 that's not good like +AmV16f169J4-01012-00231504-00231710 my mom tells me my sister wants to call +AmV16f169J4-01013-00231711-00231975 me for something i knew something was up +AmV16f169J4-01014-00231976-00232158 she's like hey i'm gay i'm like oh +AmV16f169J4-01015-00232159-00232358 like you know i gotta excuse my french +AmV16f169J4-01016-00232359-00232534 um +AmV16f169J4-01017-00232535-00232815 got a deal yeah that's true +AmV16f169J4-01018-00232816-00232991 um +AmV16f169J4-01019-00232992-00233110 so it's about +AmV16f169J4-01020-00233111-00233310 six months after coming home i fully cut +AmV16f169J4-01021-00233311-00233510 ties with the church um +AmV16f169J4-01022-00233511-00233742 you know due to uh +AmV16f169J4-01023-00233744-00233894 uh you know i just gonna be comfortable +AmV16f169J4-01024-00233896-00234055 um and and +AmV16f169J4-01025-00234056-00234239 you know being involved with sally and +AmV16f169J4-01026-00234240-00234503 lena and seeing their life and then +AmV16f169J4-01027-00234504-00234631 um +AmV16f169J4-01028-00234632-00234831 experiencing the the authentic love that +AmV16f169J4-01029-00234832-00235039 they had that i you know i didn't uh +AmV16f169J4-01030-00235040-00235158 like a lot of people didn't have a lot +AmV16f169J4-01031-00235159-00235310 of experience with with the lgbtq +AmV16f169J4-01032-00235311-00235463 community before that +AmV16f169J4-01033-00235464-00235646 a couple things i'll say about about +AmV16f169J4-01034-00235648-00235758 supporting +AmV16f169J4-01035-00235759-00235998 i have a good friend from from kansas uh +AmV16f169J4-01036-00236000-00236182 his name is ted lasso +AmV16f169J4-01037-00236183-00236487 uh +AmV16f169J4-01038-00236488-00236871 he's a sexy mustachioed man um +AmV16f169J4-01039-00236871-00237006 uh +AmV16f169J4-01040-00237007-00237206 yeah so he one of one of the things he +AmV16f169J4-01041-00237207-00237382 said um +AmV16f169J4-01042-00237383-00237558 it's a show called ted lasso by the way +AmV16f169J4-01043-00237559-00237734 he said on his show his fictional +AmV16f169J4-01044-00237735-00237919 character um +AmV16f169J4-01045-00237919-00238246 he says uh be curious not judgmental +AmV16f169J4-01046-00238248-00238542 um so people you know if you're an +AmV16f169J4-01047-00238544-00238823 active lds person and you're wanting to +AmV16f169J4-01048-00238823-00239063 um to sort of support more +AmV16f169J4-01049-00239064-00239303 seek to understand ask questions one +AmV16f169J4-01050-00239304-00239551 thing and then be honest um +AmV16f169J4-01051-00239552-00239679 there's something that people said to me +AmV16f169J4-01052-00239680-00239831 after i come out to church +AmV16f169J4-01053-00239832-00239998 after i left the church they would say +AmV16f169J4-01054-00240000-00240223 you know i love you no matter what +AmV16f169J4-01055-00240223-00240527 um i let oh that's okay like it's we we +AmV16f169J4-01056-00240528-00240687 can still be friends no matter what like +AmV16f169J4-01057-00240688-00240967 come on like don't say that um +AmV16f169J4-01058-00240967-00241127 i +AmV16f169J4-01059-00241128-00241279 had be willing to have honest +AmV16f169J4-01060-00241280-00241487 conversations and and +AmV16f169J4-01061-00241488-00241719 say you know okay what i believe my +AmV16f169J4-01062-00241719-00242063 doctrine is that uh is is this you know +AmV16f169J4-01063-00242064-00242263 how does that make you feel and and be +AmV16f169J4-01064-00242264-00242406 willing to engage in those hard +AmV16f169J4-01065-00242407-00242710 conversations where two beliefs clash +AmV16f169J4-01066-00242711-00242991 and be okay and and break down walls to +AmV16f169J4-01067-00242992-00243239 come to a better point of understanding +AmV16f169J4-01068-00243240-00243351 um +AmV16f169J4-01069-00243352-00243510 instead of just like +AmV16f169J4-01070-00243511-00243663 you know there's a lot of cop-outs where +AmV16f169J4-01071-00243664-00243798 you just say you know i love you no +AmV16f169J4-01072-00243800-00243958 matter what and then +AmV16f169J4-01073-00243959-00244079 you know that that's that's really +AmV16f169J4-01074-00244080-00244303 surface level to me um so seek to +AmV16f169J4-01075-00244304-00244471 understand and be willing to be honest +AmV16f169J4-01076-00244471-00244706 and have hard conversations +AmV16f169J4-01077-00244707-00245294 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01078-00245296-00245487 i want to say just one thing i want to +AmV16f169J4-01079-00245488-00245679 disagree with you sorry +AmV16f169J4-01080-00245680-00245894 you said um +AmV16f169J4-01081-00245896-00245982 we were +AmV16f169J4-01082-00245983-00246430 forced free agency forced to see this +AmV16f169J4-01083-00246431-00246534 um +AmV16f169J4-01084-00246535-00246734 i don't i don't think that's true i +AmV16f169J4-01085-00246735-00246951 think we have friends +AmV16f169J4-01086-00246952-00247191 um and acquaintances whose kids have +AmV16f169J4-01087-00247192-00247351 come out +AmV16f169J4-01088-00247352-00247389 and +AmV16f169J4-01089-00247390-00247542 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-01090-00247544-00247751 it's not happening in their world +AmV16f169J4-01091-00247752-00247910 they don't tell anybody about it they +AmV16f169J4-01092-00247911-00248039 don't talk about it +AmV16f169J4-01093-00248040-00248303 when sally came out it was +AmV16f169J4-01094-00248304-00248567 really big and once we got you know +AmV16f169J4-01095-00248567-00248767 ourselves under control +AmV16f169J4-01096-00248767-00248951 then we talked about it all the time and +AmV16f169J4-01097-00248952-00249103 we told everybody +AmV16f169J4-01098-00249104-00249294 and the whole time +AmV16f169J4-01099-00249296-00249567 this went on unbeknownst to us we have +AmV16f169J4-01100-00249567-00249927 two for two very good families that were +AmV16f169J4-01101-00249928-00250151 very good friends with us who have gay +AmV16f169J4-01102-00250152-00250439 kids who never breathed the word oh nan +AmV16f169J4-01103-00250440-00250734 your daughter's gay really oh wow how +AmV16f169J4-01104-00250735-00250910 are you +AmV16f169J4-01105-00250911-00251223 unbeknownst to us they have a gay child +AmV16f169J4-01106-00251223-00251494 and and never breathe the word of it +AmV16f169J4-01107-00251496-00251727 so i don't think everybody is forced i +AmV16f169J4-01108-00251728-00252046 think you have to +AmV16f169J4-01109-00252048-00252362 make a choice +AmV16f169J4-01110-00252363-00253046 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01111-00253048-00253415 yeah kyle is that what you meant +AmV16f169J4-01112-00253416-00253598 right yeah yeah it's through mormon +AmV16f169J4-01113-00253600-00253751 goggles but i think you needed to say +AmV16f169J4-01114-00253752-00254110 that i appreciate you saying that um +AmV16f169J4-01115-00254111-00254463 now what was the question +AmV16f169J4-01116-00254464-00254767 how was our family grown um +AmV16f169J4-01117-00254767-00254975 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01118-00254976-00255167 one thing i wanted to say when when the +AmV16f169J4-01119-00255167-00255463 byu kids were talking um is that and +AmV16f169J4-01120-00255464-00255582 kyle +AmV16f169J4-01121-00255583-00255671 that +AmV16f169J4-01122-00255671-00255903 the people that really need to see this +AmV16f169J4-01123-00255904-00256119 probably won't see it +AmV16f169J4-01124-00256119-00256287 um +AmV16f169J4-01125-00256288-00256630 and i hope if any of you guys have a way +AmV16f169J4-01126-00256631-00256958 to get more people to see this um please +AmV16f169J4-01127-00256959-00257230 please let us know we'll plead with you +AmV16f169J4-01128-00257231-00257423 know the producers and see if they can +AmV16f169J4-01129-00257423-00257639 put a little extra money in to maybe you +AmV16f169J4-01130-00257640-00257903 know get this out for some people +AmV16f169J4-01131-00257904-00258030 uh +AmV16f169J4-01132-00258031-00258319 i i have gotten countless messages from +AmV16f169J4-01133-00258319-00258527 people who have experienced healing +AmV16f169J4-01134-00258528-00258703 through this they may already be out of +AmV16f169J4-01135-00258704-00258998 the church but it's important to +AmV16f169J4-01136-00259000-00259255 be seen and recognize yourself and in +AmV16f169J4-01137-00259256-00259494 our story and it's it's a very healing +AmV16f169J4-01138-00259496-00259671 experience for +AmV16f169J4-01139-00259671-00259887 for so many people and they may not be +AmV16f169J4-01140-00259888-00260063 mormon anymore but +AmV16f169J4-01141-00260064-00260382 maybe they'll speak up at the table more +AmV16f169J4-01142-00260383-00260791 because of it +AmV16f169J4-01143-00260792-00261087 i think this is um something that many +AmV16f169J4-01144-00261088-00261375 nuanced and fringe members of the church +AmV16f169J4-01145-00261376-00261694 have needed to get that like last push +AmV16f169J4-01146-00261696-00261782 out +AmV16f169J4-01147-00261783-00262055 and i've had hundreds of dms of saying +AmV16f169J4-01148-00262056-00262215 now i'm gonna get my name removed i +AmV16f169J4-01149-00262216-00262375 finally made the choice because i watch +AmV16f169J4-01150-00262376-00262534 your show and i think that's so +AmV16f169J4-01151-00262535-00262791 important to understand is like +AmV16f169J4-01152-00262792-00263015 yeah maybe the people who really need to +AmV16f169J4-01153-00263016-00263263 watch it right now aren't watching it +AmV16f169J4-01154-00263264-00263471 but it's gonna be on hulu and it will be +AmV16f169J4-01155-00263472-00263630 there as a resource for people for a +AmV16f169J4-01156-00263631-00263751 long time +AmV16f169J4-01157-00263752-00263982 you know kind of like podcasts and +AmV16f169J4-01158-00263983-00264158 mormon stories and letter gay stories +AmV16f169J4-01159-00264159-00264391 it's these resources that we have that +AmV16f169J4-01160-00264392-00264575 they're the gift that keep on giving for +AmV16f169J4-01161-00264576-00264823 years and years to come totally agreed +AmV16f169J4-01162-00264824-00265055 yeah it's not going anywhere yeah +AmV16f169J4-01163-00265056-00265223 i just want to say how proud i am of you +AmV16f169J4-01164-00265224-00265430 guys holy +AmV16f169J4-01165-00265431-00265775 i have the best family ever +AmV16f169J4-01166-00265776-00265967 it's amazing +AmV16f169J4-01167-00265968-00266215 it's a it's just a i'm being selfish +AmV16f169J4-01168-00266216-00266399 right now but it's a really surreal +AmV16f169J4-01169-00266400-00266687 experience and super sentimental for me +AmV16f169J4-01170-00266688-00266943 to have you guys up here with me +AmV16f169J4-01171-00266944-00267158 i love you i helped raise these guys you +AmV16f169J4-01172-00267159-00267430 know super special +AmV16f169J4-01173-00267431-00267606 i i wanted to close that we're going to +AmV16f169J4-01174-00267607-00267758 do a couple of audience questions but i +AmV16f169J4-01175-00267759-00267903 wanted to close out the panel discussion +AmV16f169J4-01176-00267904-00268055 with something that just stabbed me a +AmV16f169J4-01177-00268056-00268255 little and that was +AmV16f169J4-01178-00268256-00268519 the topic of mixed orientation marriages +AmV16f169J4-01179-00268520-00268751 and especially the relationships that we +AmV16f169J4-01180-00268752-00268895 each have with our +AmV16f169J4-01181-00268896-00269095 former spouses i was in a mixed +AmV16f169J4-01182-00269096-00269255 orientation marriage you each were in a +AmV16f169J4-01183-00269256-00269471 mixed orientation marriage i've i have a +AmV16f169J4-01184-00269472-00269775 super amicable ex-wife um +AmV16f169J4-01185-00269776-00270119 lena you have an amicable ex-husband +AmV16f169J4-01186-00270120-00270215 but +AmV16f169J4-01187-00270216-00270375 the part of the mormon no more that hurt +AmV16f169J4-01188-00270376-00270582 me the most was the relationship between +AmV16f169J4-01189-00270583-00270727 you and shane +AmV16f169J4-01190-00270728-00270943 um in terms of healing what message +AmV16f169J4-01191-00270944-00271171 could you give to those +AmV16f169J4-01192-00271172-00271382 non-straight spouses in mixed +AmV16f169J4-01193-00271383-00271663 orientation marriages to help better +AmV16f169J4-01194-00271664-00272095 this subject and to help bridge that +AmV16f169J4-01195-00272096-00272215 divide +AmV16f169J4-01196-00272216-00272343 between +AmV16f169J4-01197-00272344-00272606 the new reality and the old family those +AmV16f169J4-01198-00272607-00272910 families that we once created and had +AmV16f169J4-01199-00272911-00273055 i think you can speak to the mixed +AmV16f169J4-01200-00273056-00273287 orientation because +AmV16f169J4-01201-00273288-00273519 your her husband left two years before +AmV16f169J4-01202-00273520-00273775 she did it was really hard for you +AmV16f169J4-01203-00273776-00273934 left the church yeah +AmV16f169J4-01204-00273935-00274199 well yeah so +AmV16f169J4-01205-00274200-00274358 yeah he was out of the church and i was +AmV16f169J4-01206-00274359-00274503 fighting it and then +AmV16f169J4-01207-00274504-00274734 and then i realized i'm gay i did not +AmV16f169J4-01208-00274735-00274910 stay in my marriage for very long +AmV16f169J4-01209-00274911-00275095 knowing i was gay like +AmV16f169J4-01210-00275096-00275310 i had a friend one of my best friend's +AmV16f169J4-01211-00275311-00275567 husbands had been cheating on her and it +AmV16f169J4-01212-00275568-00275791 was really raw and happening and i was +AmV16f169J4-01213-00275792-00276015 like i would never ever in a million +AmV16f169J4-01214-00276016-00276255 years step out on my husband like it's +AmV16f169J4-01215-00276256-00276503 not a thing so i knew +AmV16f169J4-01216-00276504-00276606 when i +AmV16f169J4-01217-00276607-00276863 felt the feelings and and realized and +AmV16f169J4-01218-00276864-00276999 accepted my +AmV16f169J4-01219-00277000-00277175 sexuality that +AmV16f169J4-01220-00277176-00277487 it wasn't like i wasn't gonna +AmV16f169J4-01221-00277488-00277734 do anything about it until i had taken +AmV16f169J4-01222-00277735-00277991 care of things with him and so +AmV16f169J4-01223-00277992-00278351 it wasn't uh it was not a long time +AmV16f169J4-01224-00278352-00278510 um +AmV16f169J4-01225-00278511-00278823 and i know that's hard but also it was +AmV16f169J4-01226-00278824-00279079 my integrity you know and i didn't +AmV16f169J4-01227-00279080-00279167 wanna +AmV16f169J4-01228-00279168-00279295 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01229-00279296-00280206 um +AmV16f169J4-01230-00280207-00280439 is the source the subject for me in the +AmV16f169J4-01231-00280440-00280647 whole with this whole situation i mean +AmV16f169J4-01232-00280648-00280871 uh because it's not it's not it's not +AmV16f169J4-01233-00280872-00281039 done you know like i'm still +AmV16f169J4-01234-00281040-00281247 co-parenting with him it's it's still +AmV16f169J4-01235-00281248-00281510 hard um i haven't talked to him about it +AmV16f169J4-01236-00281511-00281751 yet and uh +AmV16f169J4-01237-00281752-00281958 you know i think if i was speaking to +AmV16f169J4-01238-00281959-00282158 the to the spouses i would say it's not +AmV16f169J4-01239-00282159-00282287 about you +AmV16f169J4-01240-00282288-00282503 and that's sad but it's not it's not +AmV16f169J4-01241-00282504-00282727 about you they're not trying to do this +AmV16f169J4-01242-00282728-00282882 to you +AmV16f169J4-01243-00282883-00283334 and um +AmV16f169J4-01244-00283335-00283551 it's not a choice for me it's not a +AmV16f169J4-01245-00283552-00283758 choice for your part for your spouse and +AmV16f169J4-01246-00283759-00283943 it's it takes a lot of courage for them +AmV16f169J4-01247-00283944-00284054 to do what they're doing if they're +AmV16f169J4-01248-00284055-00284282 telling you this +AmV16f169J4-01249-00284283-00284647 and to look at the long term look at +AmV16f169J4-01250-00284648-00284895 what you want out of your life +AmV16f169J4-01251-00284896-00285006 and +AmV16f169J4-01252-00285007-00285223 see what holding a grudge is going to do +AmV16f169J4-01253-00285224-00285423 for you and your family and what letting +AmV16f169J4-01254-00285424-00285567 it go is going to do for you and your +AmV16f169J4-01255-00285568-00285751 family which +AmV16f169J4-01256-00285752-00285927 which outcome do you want +AmV16f169J4-01257-00285928-00286119 it's a choice there too +AmV16f169J4-01258-00286120-00286271 and uh +AmV16f169J4-01259-00286272-00286510 i'm sad about it um +AmV16f169J4-01260-00286511-00286647 but +AmV16f169J4-01261-00286648-00286903 uh +AmV16f169J4-01262-00286904-00287082 it could be worse +AmV16f169J4-01263-00287083-00287367 so and it could be better so you know +AmV16f169J4-01264-00287368-00287630 like i think um +AmV16f169J4-01265-00287631-00287823 it's good for people to see both sides +AmV16f169J4-01266-00287824-00288063 it's good for people to see like how how +AmV16f169J4-01267-00288064-00288239 it can be done and and then the +AmV16f169J4-01268-00288240-00288510 situation and and i can't control it +AmV16f169J4-01269-00288511-00288775 um but like everybody that's listening +AmV16f169J4-01270-00288776-00289015 who's a spouse like does shane seem +AmV16f169J4-01271-00289016-00289319 happier or paul i mean +AmV16f169J4-01272-00289320-00289510 paul was there bawling at our wedding +AmV16f169J4-01273-00289511-00289663 and like he's such a big part of our +AmV16f169J4-01274-00289664-00289879 life i mean he babysat our kids last +AmV16f169J4-01275-00289880-00290071 night so we could come here all seven of +AmV16f169J4-01276-00290072-00290151 them +AmV16f169J4-01277-00290152-00290375 and and he and he loves it he came to +AmV16f169J4-01278-00290376-00290615 pride with us yesterday +AmV16f169J4-01279-00290616-00290782 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01280-00290783-00291063 it's just like it's a joy it's a real +AmV16f169J4-01281-00291064-00291303 it's a real special joy to have him in +AmV16f169J4-01282-00291304-00291534 our life and um +AmV16f169J4-01283-00291535-00291758 so i think that i think that speaks for +AmV16f169J4-01284-00291759-00291982 itself +AmV16f169J4-01285-00291983-00292167 anything else to add lena +AmV16f169J4-01286-00292168-00292343 um i i don't know if this answers your +AmV16f169J4-01287-00292344-00292495 question but +AmV16f169J4-01288-00292496-00292575 for +AmV16f169J4-01289-00292576-00292687 paul and i +AmV16f169J4-01290-00292688-00292958 just to set the record straight we both +AmV16f169J4-01291-00292959-00293119 came from really +AmV16f169J4-01292-00293120-00293287 crappy situations +AmV16f169J4-01293-00293288-00293551 my mom has been married four times my +AmV16f169J4-01294-00293552-00293782 dad's been married three times his dad's +AmV16f169J4-01295-00293783-00293934 been married three times his mom's been +AmV16f169J4-01296-00293935-00294127 married three times so if you add all of +AmV16f169J4-01297-00294128-00294415 those up like that's a lot of divorce in +AmV16f169J4-01298-00294416-00294551 one family +AmV16f169J4-01299-00294552-00294671 and so +AmV16f169J4-01300-00294672-00294815 from the beginning of our marriage we've +AmV16f169J4-01301-00294816-00295039 made that commitment irregardless of how +AmV16f169J4-01302-00295040-00295215 many problems we had we just stayed for +AmV16f169J4-01303-00295216-00295454 that purpose but once i figured out i +AmV16f169J4-01304-00295455-00295719 was gay it was like well we can rewrite +AmV16f169J4-01305-00295720-00295919 the story and the handbook on what it +AmV16f169J4-01306-00295920-00296063 looks like to be divorced because we +AmV16f169J4-01307-00296064-00296263 know our parents did a really terrible +AmV16f169J4-01308-00296264-00296367 job +AmV16f169J4-01309-00296368-00296471 you know we +AmV16f169J4-01310-00296472-00296671 still to this day i mean my well +AmV16f169J4-01311-00296672-00296887 actually at the wedding my parents +AmV16f169J4-01312-00296888-00297110 were kind to each other +AmV16f169J4-01313-00297111-00297295 yes this whole experience of me coming +AmV16f169J4-01314-00297296-00297447 out and getting married to a woman it's +AmV16f169J4-01315-00297448-00297623 like they said hi for the first time in +AmV16f169J4-01316-00297624-00297823 30 something years so seeing you and +AmV16f169J4-01317-00297824-00298127 paul and seeing paul and i yes yes +AmV16f169J4-01318-00298128-00298375 that's a huge part of it too so wow we +AmV16f169J4-01319-00298376-00298543 don't have to be jerks to each other +AmV16f169J4-01320-00298544-00298663 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01321-00298664-00298823 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01322-00298824-00299039 and two i think +AmV16f169J4-01323-00299040-00299303 paul and i had gone through a lot of +AmV16f169J4-01324-00299304-00299510 difficulty some of you know our story +AmV16f169J4-01325-00299511-00299703 but we almost lost our twins when they +AmV16f169J4-01326-00299704-00299887 were babies and that was really really +AmV16f169J4-01327-00299888-00300071 traumatic he's fought in two wars in +AmV16f169J4-01328-00300072-00300254 iraq and afghanistan it's like there are +AmV16f169J4-01329-00300255-00300399 worse things that happen to you than +AmV16f169J4-01330-00300400-00300647 getting a divorce and so +AmV16f169J4-01331-00300648-00300727 our +AmV16f169J4-01332-00300728-00300951 our children didn't choose this +AmV16f169J4-01333-00300952-00301087 we don't want them to feel like they're +AmV16f169J4-01334-00301088-00301303 missing out in any way it's always been +AmV16f169J4-01335-00301304-00301582 an and not an ore for us it's more +AmV16f169J4-01336-00301583-00301743 abundant right there's more room for +AmV16f169J4-01337-00301744-00302030 more people and +AmV16f169J4-01338-00302031-00302279 we love having him be a part of it and +AmV16f169J4-01339-00302280-00302503 we would love to have shane be a part of +AmV16f169J4-01340-00302504-00302575 it +AmV16f169J4-01341-00302576-00302775 you know +AmV16f169J4-01342-00302776-00303095 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01343-00303096-00303230 all right thank you to the panelists +AmV16f169J4-01344-00303231-00303406 thank you for your contributions to the +AmV16f169J4-01345-00303407-00303654 story and for continuing to share and +AmV16f169J4-01346-00303655-00303927 and push this forward to help to help +AmV16f169J4-01347-00303928-00304039 all of us we're gonna forego the +AmV16f169J4-01348-00304040-00304215 audience questions for this segment just +AmV16f169J4-01349-00304216-00304375 because we want to give you a little +AmV16f169J4-01350-00304376-00304630 extra time outside to meet with the +AmV16f169J4-01351-00304631-00304839 osborne family and and the other cast +AmV16f169J4-01352-00304840-00305030 members so we'll be back for segment +AmV16f169J4-01353-00305031-00305343 number two after our uh second episode +AmV16f169J4-01354-00305344-00305582 airs a little later tonight +AmV16f169J4-01355-00305583-00305703 thank you for being here thank you for +AmV16f169J4-01356-00305704-00306039 supporting uh this cast that is amazing +AmV16f169J4-01357-00306040-00306303 and you've just seen 25 percent of +AmV16f169J4-01358-00306304-00306567 something that is incredible and in my +AmV16f169J4-01359-00306568-00306734 opinion one of the most +AmV16f169J4-01360-00306735-00306951 valuable resources we have at the +AmV16f169J4-01361-00306952-00307223 intersection of lgbt street and lgbt and +AmV16f169J4-01362-00307224-00307503 lds avenue where +AmV16f169J4-01363-00307504-00307879 this mormonism and sexuality and reality +AmV16f169J4-01364-00307880-00308087 all intersect +AmV16f169J4-01365-00308088-00308310 we've seen a number of things that i +AmV16f169J4-01366-00308311-00308519 might call the mormon movement happening +AmV16f169J4-01367-00308520-00308758 in media lately and i think it's been to +AmV16f169J4-01368-00308759-00309006 our benefit to be able to highlight the +AmV16f169J4-01369-00309007-00309206 marginalized stories of the latter-day +AmV16f169J4-01370-00309207-00309527 saint community in or out of mormonism +AmV16f169J4-01371-00309528-00309782 for many of us mormonism has very very +AmV16f169J4-01372-00309783-00310063 deep roots and if we've removed that +AmV16f169J4-01373-00310064-00310319 tree from our landscape still remnants +AmV16f169J4-01374-00310320-00310551 of that tree exist and they will forever +AmV16f169J4-01375-00310552-00310719 and i think highlighting a lot of these +AmV16f169J4-01376-00310720-00310879 stories helps us all become better +AmV16f169J4-01377-00310880-00311063 people and understand the lived +AmV16f169J4-01378-00311064-00311247 experiences of this community so thank +AmV16f169J4-01379-00311248-00311367 you for being here and thank you for +AmV16f169J4-01380-00311368-00311495 supporting +AmV16f169J4-01381-00311496-00311719 episodes and stories and families like +AmV16f169J4-01382-00311720-00312056 mormon no more +AmV16f169J4-01383-00312057-00312327 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01384-00312328-00312495 my name is kyle ashworth i'm the host of +AmV16f169J4-01385-00312496-00312654 the latter gay stories podcast and for +AmV16f169J4-01386-00312655-00312791 those of you who weren't here for our +AmV16f169J4-01387-00312792-00312919 first um +AmV16f169J4-01388-00312920-00313182 uh opportunity to screen i'll just give +AmV16f169J4-01389-00313183-00313423 you another brief background but uh the +AmV16f169J4-01390-00313424-00313623 latter gay stories podcast is not +AmV16f169J4-01391-00313624-00313799 necessarily something that is endorsed +AmV16f169J4-01392-00313800-00314279 by 50 north temple +AmV16f169J4-01393-00314280-00314503 as you can imagine i'm not quite certain +AmV16f169J4-01394-00314504-00314663 i'm going to get a christmas card from +AmV16f169J4-01395-00314664-00314999 the hollands or the oaks this year +AmV16f169J4-01396-00315000-00315254 however uh the podcast really was +AmV16f169J4-01397-00315255-00315558 created to help create uh some resources +AmV16f169J4-01398-00315559-00315879 for lgbtq people who are navigating +AmV16f169J4-01399-00315880-00316223 in or out of mormonism uh particularly +AmV16f169J4-01400-00316224-00316471 those who were impacted by this topic +AmV16f169J4-01401-00316472-00316830 who or specifically lgbtq growing up as +AmV16f169J4-01402-00316831-00317054 a closeted mormon myself in a temple +AmV16f169J4-01403-00317055-00317327 marriage with children +AmV16f169J4-01404-00317328-00317454 i thought a mission marriage and +AmV16f169J4-01405-00317455-00317663 children would fix me and just doing all +AmV16f169J4-01406-00317664-00317823 the right things would make it all go +AmV16f169J4-01407-00317824-00318143 away and like your story it doesn't and +AmV16f169J4-01408-00318144-00318391 when you i love lena's line where she +AmV16f169J4-01409-00318392-00318551 says you just can't run from the truth +AmV16f169J4-01410-00318552-00318719 or hide from the truth and and when the +AmV16f169J4-01411-00318720-00318943 truth does knock on your door and you +AmV16f169J4-01412-00318944-00319206 answer it what is it that you do so that +AmV16f169J4-01413-00319207-00319391 really was the premise behind the latter +AmV16f169J4-01414-00319392-00319615 gay stories podcast was to create better +AmV16f169J4-01415-00319616-00319871 visibility towards this community +AmV16f169J4-01416-00319872-00320110 so i want to thank you and thank uh this +AmV16f169J4-01417-00320111-00320351 this group as well so uh we did record +AmV16f169J4-01418-00320352-00320463 the first +AmV16f169J4-01419-00320464-00320710 uh screening and the comments uh and the +AmV16f169J4-01420-00320711-00320927 questions that we had as a panel and +AmV16f169J4-01421-00320928-00321079 then we are recording this one as well +AmV16f169J4-01422-00321080-00321247 so you can go to uh the latter gay +AmV16f169J4-01423-00321248-00321463 stories platforms on facebook and +AmV16f169J4-01424-00321464-00321575 youtube and +AmV16f169J4-01425-00321576-00321767 instagram and all the socials and +AmV16f169J4-01426-00321768-00321999 re-watch uh the first and this episode +AmV16f169J4-01427-00322000-00322191 as well and we invite you to share that +AmV16f169J4-01428-00322192-00322391 and share that with the mormon no more +AmV16f169J4-01429-00322392-00322567 hashtag to help us get a little better +AmV16f169J4-01430-00322568-00322767 visibility but also just to really get +AmV16f169J4-01431-00322768-00323023 the behind the scenes view of +AmV16f169J4-01432-00323024-00323182 the stories that you didn't see in the +AmV16f169J4-01433-00323183-00323399 documentary and some of the things that +AmV16f169J4-01434-00323400-00323647 might need to be clarified and maybe the +AmV16f169J4-01435-00323648-00323854 soft focus taken off and we get a little +AmV16f169J4-01436-00323855-00324134 more um clarity on some of those +AmV16f169J4-01437-00324135-00324415 backstories so you can watch for that +AmV16f169J4-01438-00324416-00324527 and +AmV16f169J4-01439-00324528-00324791 maybe we should start by just uh +AmV16f169J4-01440-00324792-00325110 letting you get to know a little bit +AmV16f169J4-01441-00325111-00325382 more of this this panel +AmV16f169J4-01442-00325383-00325734 and i'll ask each of you uh what +AmV16f169J4-01443-00325735-00325895 episode you're in +AmV16f169J4-01444-00325896-00326030 and then just tell us a little bit about +AmV16f169J4-01445-00326031-00326230 yourself and what episode you're in and +AmV16f169J4-01446-00326231-00326519 why uh your story was featured we'll +AmV16f169J4-01447-00326520-00326895 start with you paulie +AmV16f169J4-01448-00326896-00327158 hey everyone my name is paulie chokey +AmV16f169J4-01449-00327159-00327558 mendoza and um my story is in the fourth +AmV16f169J4-01450-00327559-00327934 episode um my mormon story i guess you +AmV16f169J4-01451-00327935-00328078 could say is +AmV16f169J4-01452-00328079-00328367 super long lots of trauma um but we +AmV16f169J4-01453-00328368-00328454 focus +AmV16f169J4-01454-00328455-00328719 probably we all have lots of trauma um +AmV16f169J4-01455-00328720-00328975 one of the key factors in my episode is +AmV16f169J4-01456-00328976-00329351 about my husband and i um and also about +AmV16f169J4-01457-00329352-00329582 our daughter who we got pregnant when i +AmV16f169J4-01458-00329583-00329806 was not married and we were asked to +AmV16f169J4-01459-00329807-00329934 pray about giving our daughter up for +AmV16f169J4-01460-00329935-00330071 adoption +AmV16f169J4-01461-00330072-00330519 because i was not married and i was 27 +AmV16f169J4-01462-00330520-00330775 and not treated with dignity in any way +AmV16f169J4-01463-00330776-00330951 shape or form so we'll probably get into +AmV16f169J4-01464-00330952-00331230 that more but um yeah my story has lots +AmV16f169J4-01465-00331231-00331463 of things into it and i'm happy to be +AmV16f169J4-01466-00331464-00332151 here with you all +AmV16f169J4-01467-00332152-00332334 uh my name is bradley talbot i didn't +AmV16f169J4-01468-00332335-00332582 mention this in the uh first panel that +AmV16f169J4-01469-00332583-00332782 we did by you see him pronouns i'm the +AmV16f169J4-01470-00332783-00333030 founder of color the campus +AmV16f169J4-01471-00333031-00333367 um and i got involved because i had +AmV16f169J4-01472-00333368-00333558 people shine pretty flashlights and it +AmV16f169J4-01473-00333559-00333791 got attention so +AmV16f169J4-01474-00333792-00334078 the lighting of the rainbow and trans y +AmV16f169J4-01475-00334079-00334191 um +AmV16f169J4-01476-00334192-00334278 and +AmV16f169J4-01477-00334279-00334439 someone reached out to me and said hey +AmV16f169J4-01478-00334440-00334582 we're doing this story do you want to be +AmV16f169J4-01479-00334583-00334799 involved and i said absolutely and so +AmV16f169J4-01480-00334800-00335104 that's episode two +AmV16f169J4-01481-00335105-00335503 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01482-00335504-00335671 hi everyone i'm +AmV16f169J4-01483-00335672-00335999 one of the anonymous byu students um in +AmV16f169J4-01484-00336000-00336439 episode two i use they them pronouns and +AmV16f169J4-01485-00336440-00336575 boy were you supposed to say anything +AmV16f169J4-01486-00336576-00336727 else +AmV16f169J4-01487-00336728-00336975 what is it about yourself oh +AmV16f169J4-01488-00336976-00337071 um +AmV16f169J4-01489-00337072-00337191 i actually only get one line in the +AmV16f169J4-01490-00337192-00337415 documentary but i did do an hour-long +AmV16f169J4-01491-00337416-00337858 interview where i cried for most of it +AmV16f169J4-01492-00337859-00338254 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01493-00338255-00338495 um hi everyone i'm maddie i'm also known +AmV16f169J4-01494-00338496-00338719 as elder holland's favorite student so +AmV16f169J4-01495-00338720-00338791 uh +AmV16f169J4-01496-00338792-00339063 thanks chad shout out to you um i might +AmV16f169J4-01497-00339064-00339263 look a little different um +AmV16f169J4-01498-00339264-00339471 obviously it's because sally is my muse +AmV16f169J4-01499-00339472-00339710 but honestly if i want to be honest it's +AmV16f169J4-01500-00339711-00339943 your it's your four-year-old son ozzy i +AmV16f169J4-01501-00339944-00340127 mean his hair is amazing i'm so inspired +AmV16f169J4-01502-00340128-00340351 by him so so excited to be here +AmV16f169J4-01503-00340352-00340527 my name is kyle ashworthy i actually +AmV16f169J4-01504-00340528-00340639 have you in my phone as matt the +AmV16f169J4-01505-00340640-00341015 commandeer oh +AmV16f169J4-01506-00341016-00341430 well let me know +AmV16f169J4-01507-00341431-00341678 i'm also i'm in episode two as well +AmV16f169J4-01508-00341679-00341871 covering the cover of the campus or +AmV16f169J4-01509-00341872-00341975 color the +AmV16f169J4-01510-00341976-00342167 color the campus +AmV16f169J4-01511-00342168-00342430 i know it is a lot um highlighting a lot +AmV16f169J4-01512-00342431-00342606 of uh the +AmV16f169J4-01513-00342607-00342791 literal play-by-plays as we go through +AmV16f169J4-01514-00342792-00342967 the lighting of the y the byu police +AmV16f169J4-01515-00342968-00343103 department +AmV16f169J4-01516-00343104-00343334 the potential arrests the misdemeanors +AmV16f169J4-01517-00343335-00343503 the it's pretty intense so it was really +AmV16f169J4-01518-00343504-00343671 fun to be able to to help with that +AmV16f169J4-01519-00343672-00343863 aspect of it and +AmV16f169J4-01520-00343864-00344006 keep up with a little bit of drama so it +AmV16f169J4-01521-00344007-00344191 was really fun +AmV16f169J4-01522-00344192-00344495 we watched it was amazing +AmV16f169J4-01523-00344496-00344869 good job kyle i'm lena osborne +AmV16f169J4-01524-00344870-00345230 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01525-00345231-00345615 a new bride +AmV16f169J4-01526-00345616-00345871 we're just so so thankful that you all +AmV16f169J4-01527-00345872-00346078 took the time out of your sunday evening +AmV16f169J4-01528-00346079-00346287 to come and watch with us and i was +AmV16f169J4-01529-00346288-00346575 shocked to see how many hands were up +AmV16f169J4-01530-00346576-00346806 self-restraint you guys practiced some +AmV16f169J4-01531-00346807-00347078 serious restraint we it came out at 901 +AmV16f169J4-01532-00347079-00347263 pm california time thursday and we +AmV16f169J4-01533-00347264-00347447 stayed up obviously +AmV16f169J4-01534-00347448-00347606 way too late +AmV16f169J4-01535-00347607-00347799 but again thank you so much for taking +AmV16f169J4-01536-00347800-00348166 the time out to be here with us +AmV16f169J4-01537-00348167-00348519 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01538-00348520-00348951 i'm sure you're tired of my voice by now +AmV16f169J4-01539-00348952-00349182 thank you it means a lot it means really +AmV16f169J4-01540-00349183-00349399 a lot for you guys to be here i +AmV16f169J4-01541-00349400-00349558 i know that i wouldn't have been able to +AmV16f169J4-01542-00349559-00349791 say yes to doing this documentary if i +AmV16f169J4-01543-00349792-00349903 didn't +AmV16f169J4-01544-00349904-00350151 trust this community like +AmV16f169J4-01545-00350152-00350471 we show up for each other and it's +AmV16f169J4-01546-00350472-00350671 pretty amazing to feel the love and +AmV16f169J4-01547-00350672-00350910 support that we've felt already so +AmV16f169J4-01548-00350911-00351567 thank you thank you so much +AmV16f169J4-01549-00351568-00351848 i'm nan i'm sally's mom +AmV16f169J4-01550-00351849-00352158 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01551-00352159-00353095 i'm in episode one two three four +AmV16f169J4-01552-00353096-00353358 um +AmV16f169J4-01553-00353359-00353503 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01554-00353504-00353791 um +AmV16f169J4-01555-00353792-00354015 did i say on this first episode that i +AmV16f169J4-01556-00354016-00354278 failed did that show up on episode one +AmV16f169J4-01557-00354279-00354639 no oh at some point in the show +AmV16f169J4-01558-00354640-00354887 you see me and i say +AmV16f169J4-01559-00354888-00355054 i was taught my whole life that the +AmV16f169J4-01560-00355055-00355191 whole reason +AmV16f169J4-01561-00355192-00355319 um +AmV16f169J4-01562-00355320-00355510 that i'm here on earth is to raise a +AmV16f169J4-01563-00355511-00355663 righteous family +AmV16f169J4-01564-00355664-00355863 and to keep them on the straight and +AmV16f169J4-01565-00355864-00356134 narrow path and i feel like i've failed +AmV16f169J4-01566-00356135-00356391 and i say that in the show but earlier +AmV16f169J4-01567-00356392-00356606 today when we did this first round of +AmV16f169J4-01568-00356607-00356799 this panel and i sat here and watched +AmV16f169J4-01569-00356800-00357110 all my kids or most of my kids +AmV16f169J4-01570-00357111-00357254 support each other +AmV16f169J4-01571-00357255-00357347 and uh +AmV16f169J4-01572-00357348-00357471 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-01573-00357472-00357719 just show up in such a big way +AmV16f169J4-01574-00357720-00357982 and be so brave to be so vulnerable i +AmV16f169J4-01575-00357983-00358143 just thought +AmV16f169J4-01576-00358144-00358367 this is if this isn't success i don't +AmV16f169J4-01577-00358368-00359478 know what it is +AmV16f169J4-01578-00359479-00359882 i'm rod and i'm sally's +AmV16f169J4-01579-00359883-00360134 dad have the privilege of being sally's +AmV16f169J4-01580-00360135-00360382 dad um +AmV16f169J4-01581-00360383-00360495 i'm in +AmV16f169J4-01582-00360496-00360695 i don't know where i am i'm i'm in i'm +AmV16f169J4-01583-00360696-00360847 in a lot of them just +AmV16f169J4-01584-00360848-00361110 little tiny bits but i'm glad to be here +AmV16f169J4-01585-00361111-00361575 thanks +AmV16f169J4-01586-00361576-00361734 i'm sam +AmV16f169J4-01587-00361735-00361951 you haven't seen me yet i'm uh +AmV16f169J4-01588-00361952-00362110 in the other episodes +AmV16f169J4-01589-00362111-00362375 one two two three four uh +AmV16f169J4-01590-00362376-00362682 i'm sally's little brother +AmV16f169J4-01591-00362683-00362839 and +AmV16f169J4-01592-00362840-00363927 i'm a cute boy +AmV16f169J4-01593-00363928-00364039 every time +AmV16f169J4-01594-00364040-00364239 before i come to one of these events i'm +AmV16f169J4-01595-00364240-00364933 always sure i am not gay +AmV16f169J4-01596-00364934-00365319 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01597-00365320-00365687 and i'm joe thanks +AmV16f169J4-01598-00365688-00366078 also a little brother +AmV16f169J4-01599-00366079-00366551 oh i love them +AmV16f169J4-01600-00366552-00366903 your hair's not blond enough to be gay +AmV16f169J4-01601-00366904-00367351 we can change that +AmV16f169J4-01602-00367352-00367623 all right sally and lena um how did you +AmV16f169J4-01603-00367624-00367903 get involved in this project um what was +AmV16f169J4-01604-00367904-00368103 the impetus what started it and did it +AmV16f169J4-01605-00368104-00368319 meet your expectations +AmV16f169J4-01606-00368320-00368447 watching +AmV16f169J4-01607-00368448-00368623 now the four episodes and listening to +AmV16f169J4-01608-00368624-00369047 audience reactions +AmV16f169J4-01609-00369048-00369199 so +AmV16f169J4-01610-00369200-00369510 we had a beautiful photo shoot from this +AmV16f169J4-01611-00369511-00369734 gal that flew down from oregon to take +AmV16f169J4-01612-00369735-00369895 photos of our family she has a queer +AmV16f169J4-01613-00369896-00370063 daughter she's ex-mormon she wanted to +AmV16f169J4-01614-00370064-00370367 add to her repertoire and her portfolio +AmV16f169J4-01615-00370368-00370510 this queer couple and all these +AmV16f169J4-01616-00370511-00370743 beautiful kids and she did it for free +AmV16f169J4-01617-00370744-00370895 and it was gorgeous and amazing and +AmV16f169J4-01618-00370896-00371078 we're gonna have those photos forever +AmV16f169J4-01619-00371079-00371239 but little did she know that one of them +AmV16f169J4-01620-00371240-00371502 would go viral on the same-sex parents +AmV16f169J4-01621-00371503-00371710 platform we were asked to share our +AmV16f169J4-01622-00371711-00371967 story there and one of our producers +AmV16f169J4-01623-00371968-00372143 claire who's an executive producer for +AmV16f169J4-01624-00372144-00372447 diane sawyer reached out to me and said +AmV16f169J4-01625-00372448-00372630 i want to start a passion project will +AmV16f169J4-01626-00372631-00372775 you do this with me +AmV16f169J4-01627-00372776-00372991 and we were like okay +AmV16f169J4-01628-00372992-00373087 sure +AmV16f169J4-01629-00373088-00373223 let's do it +AmV16f169J4-01630-00373224-00373319 uh +AmV16f169J4-01631-00373320-00373543 the second question was +AmV16f169J4-01632-00373544-00373719 did it meet my expectations i think it +AmV16f169J4-01633-00373720-00373887 exceeded my expectations in a lot of +AmV16f169J4-01634-00373888-00374175 ways i think it's beautifully shot i am +AmV16f169J4-01635-00374176-00374375 obsessed with all of the stories that +AmV16f169J4-01636-00374376-00374671 were shared paulie and brock and bradley +AmV16f169J4-01637-00374672-00374895 maddy easton obviously our son +AmV16f169J4-01638-00374896-00375095 adopted um +AmV16f169J4-01639-00375096-00375310 but their stories were really powerful +AmV16f169J4-01640-00375311-00375454 and i +AmV16f169J4-01641-00375455-00375654 feel so honored to be able to watch our +AmV16f169J4-01642-00375655-00375863 love story on screen and to have that +AmV16f169J4-01643-00375864-00376047 memorialized wait till you get to +AmV16f169J4-01644-00376048-00376239 episode four the first kiss it's my +AmV16f169J4-01645-00376240-00376630 favorite part +AmV16f169J4-01646-00376631-00376975 but yeah what about you yeah +AmV16f169J4-01647-00376976-00377271 i went into this um trying to be really +AmV16f169J4-01648-00377272-00377382 like +AmV16f169J4-01649-00377383-00377551 buddhist about it and not have +AmV16f169J4-01650-00377552-00377839 expectations you know uh because i knew +AmV16f169J4-01651-00377840-00378015 we wouldn't have +AmV16f169J4-01652-00378016-00378254 ultimate power they had the editing +AmV16f169J4-01653-00378255-00378423 power so i didn't know how this was +AmV16f169J4-01654-00378424-00378543 gonna turn out +AmV16f169J4-01655-00378544-00378654 and +AmV16f169J4-01656-00378655-00378871 it's blown me away we've had an amazing +AmV16f169J4-01657-00378872-00379175 reception and +AmV16f169J4-01658-00379176-00379391 even uh it's weird to watch yourself on +AmV16f169J4-01659-00379392-00379702 tv you know and um there are little +AmV16f169J4-01660-00379703-00379919 things like my hair cut and stuff that i +AmV16f169J4-01661-00379920-00379999 know +AmV16f169J4-01662-00380000-00380319 that i'm annoyed with but +AmV16f169J4-01663-00380320-00380599 and they did take some editing um +AmV16f169J4-01664-00380600-00380758 they dramatized +AmV16f169J4-01665-00380759-00381102 things a little bit uh like in episode +AmV16f169J4-01666-00381103-00381367 four when they they you'll see that i'm +AmV16f169J4-01667-00381368-00381639 i apparently had cold feet +AmV16f169J4-01668-00381640-00381815 they made that a little bigger than they +AmV16f169J4-01669-00381816-00381919 then it +AmV16f169J4-01670-00381920-00382191 a lot bigger than it actually was but +AmV16f169J4-01671-00382192-00382358 it's tv and +AmV16f169J4-01672-00382359-00382510 um +AmV16f169J4-01673-00382511-00382599 i +AmV16f169J4-01674-00382600-00382839 i know this is bigger than us this isn't +AmV16f169J4-01675-00382840-00383119 really about us this is a way way bigger +AmV16f169J4-01676-00383120-00383454 issue you know and i feel honored to be +AmV16f169J4-01677-00383455-00383702 able to tell our story and +AmV16f169J4-01678-00383703-00383991 and have it be a movement you know like +AmV16f169J4-01679-00383992-00384095 this and +AmV16f169J4-01680-00384096-00384415 so yeah i'm i'm really thankful it felt +AmV16f169J4-01681-00384416-00384567 it felt cosmic you know i'm not +AmV16f169J4-01682-00384568-00384727 religious anymore but +AmV16f169J4-01683-00384728-00384871 something it feels like it was written +AmV16f169J4-01684-00384872-00385143 in the stars you know it's it's just +AmV16f169J4-01685-00385144-00385544 happened and so i feel super thankful +AmV16f169J4-01686-00385545-00386071 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01687-00386072-00386263 i really want to try to make for those +AmV16f169J4-01688-00386264-00386430 of you who will re-watch this i want to +AmV16f169J4-01689-00386431-00386591 try to make both panels a little +AmV16f169J4-01690-00386592-00386758 different um +AmV16f169J4-01691-00386759-00386927 so there's +AmV16f169J4-01692-00386928-00387143 obviously just not repetitive +AmV16f169J4-01693-00387144-00387310 so i'm thinking i want to start with you +AmV16f169J4-01694-00387311-00387582 rod first um the osborne family +AmV16f169J4-01695-00387583-00387806 spokesman of this group +AmV16f169J4-01696-00387807-00388254 um +AmV16f169J4-01697-00388255-00388567 the patriarchal leader yes +AmV16f169J4-01698-00388568-00388767 and it actually ties into that you uh +AmV16f169J4-01699-00388768-00388975 mentioned in this first episode early on +AmV16f169J4-01700-00388976-00389215 when sally came out uh one of the first +AmV16f169J4-01701-00389216-00389358 places you went was to your +AmV16f169J4-01702-00389359-00389567 ecclesiastical leader was to your church +AmV16f169J4-01703-00389568-00389799 leader and that church lead i don't know +AmV16f169J4-01704-00389800-00390030 bishop stake president +AmV16f169J4-01705-00390031-00390287 but that leader gave you some advice my +AmV16f169J4-01706-00390288-00390430 question is +AmV16f169J4-01707-00390431-00390639 how true now that sally's been out for a +AmV16f169J4-01708-00390640-00390806 number of years +AmV16f169J4-01709-00390807-00391054 how true was that advice how close was +AmV16f169J4-01710-00391055-00391334 it to reality and did that advice +AmV16f169J4-01711-00391335-00391567 influence your family for better or for +AmV16f169J4-01712-00391568-00392071 worse concerning this topic +AmV16f169J4-01713-00392072-00392199 thank you kyle i think that's a great +AmV16f169J4-01714-00392200-00392358 question um +AmV16f169J4-01715-00392359-00392751 yeah soon after sally came out um +AmV16f169J4-01716-00392752-00393071 it was very difficult for me uh +AmV16f169J4-01717-00393072-00393310 i just i just didn't know what to think +AmV16f169J4-01718-00393311-00393439 at the time +AmV16f169J4-01719-00393440-00393663 um +AmV16f169J4-01720-00393664-00393871 i think i got pretty depressed +AmV16f169J4-01721-00393872-00394030 uh just +AmV16f169J4-01722-00394031-00394430 because i was confused about +AmV16f169J4-01723-00394431-00394895 about you know what is now our place +AmV16f169J4-01724-00394896-00395078 what is her place now in the in the +AmV16f169J4-01725-00395079-00395287 family what happens when you know after +AmV16f169J4-01726-00395288-00395551 we're dead where's sally um +AmV16f169J4-01727-00395552-00395887 so i had really soon thereafter a temple +AmV16f169J4-01728-00395888-00396110 recommend interview +AmV16f169J4-01729-00396111-00396367 and i went to uh went to my bishop i +AmV16f169J4-01730-00396368-00396567 didn't say anything to my bishop +AmV16f169J4-01731-00396568-00396799 but i i went there was a friend of mine +AmV16f169J4-01732-00396800-00396991 that was in the state presidency that +AmV16f169J4-01733-00396992-00397239 interviewed me uh a guy that i i still +AmV16f169J4-01734-00397240-00397527 respect very much +AmV16f169J4-01735-00397528-00397687 and uh +AmV16f169J4-01736-00397688-00398143 i told him hey you know i'm i'm really +AmV16f169J4-01737-00398144-00398343 i'm really in a difficult place right +AmV16f169J4-01738-00398344-00398471 now my daughter +AmV16f169J4-01739-00398472-00398767 is gay and i don't know what to think +AmV16f169J4-01740-00398768-00398943 anymore +AmV16f169J4-01741-00398944-00399302 and uh he just said +AmV16f169J4-01742-00399303-00399575 it'll all work out +AmV16f169J4-01743-00399576-00399734 and uh +AmV16f169J4-01744-00399735-00399951 i remember sitting there +AmV16f169J4-01745-00399952-00400182 thinking that's not very comforting not +AmV16f169J4-01746-00400183-00400319 comforting at all because that's not +AmV16f169J4-01747-00400320-00400478 what we teach +AmV16f169J4-01748-00400479-00400671 i didn't say that to him +AmV16f169J4-01749-00400672-00400854 um +AmV16f169J4-01750-00400855-00401182 but that set me on a course to start +AmV16f169J4-01751-00401183-00401519 finding stuff out on my own and +AmV16f169J4-01752-00401520-00401727 i really did +AmV16f169J4-01753-00401728-00402087 from that point on i really +AmV16f169J4-01754-00402088-00402310 got into history and the development of +AmV16f169J4-01755-00402311-00402487 doctrine and +AmV16f169J4-01756-00402488-00402687 um +AmV16f169J4-01757-00402688-00403110 i call it profound disappointment +AmV16f169J4-01758-00403111-00403367 it was profoundly disappointing to find +AmV16f169J4-01759-00403368-00403654 what i found uh you know in our history +AmV16f169J4-01760-00403655-00403854 and uh in the development of our +AmV16f169J4-01761-00403855-00403951 doctrine +AmV16f169J4-01762-00403952-00404223 um and i mean that in the sense of made +AmV16f169J4-01763-00404224-00404295 up +AmV16f169J4-01764-00404296-00404478 um +AmV16f169J4-01765-00404479-00404734 so um +AmV16f169J4-01766-00404735-00404878 anyway +AmV16f169J4-01767-00404879-00404982 i think +AmV16f169J4-01768-00404983-00405182 that's all been i think that's all been +AmV16f169J4-01769-00405183-00405278 great +AmV16f169J4-01770-00405279-00405454 right +AmV16f169J4-01771-00405455-00405702 yeah it's it's it's brought us to where +AmV16f169J4-01772-00405703-00405999 we are now and and i think it's awesome +AmV16f169J4-01773-00406000-00406151 i am +AmV16f169J4-01774-00406152-00406423 i'm so happy that uh +AmV16f169J4-01775-00406424-00406797 i see what i did not see before +AmV16f169J4-01776-00406798-00407230 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01777-00407231-00407471 it's rare for the boomers to be willing +AmV16f169J4-01778-00407472-00407890 to do that huh it's pretty amazing +AmV16f169J4-01779-00407891-00408175 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01780-00408176-00408439 nan i have a similar line of questions +AmV16f169J4-01781-00408440-00408743 um from the mother's perspective when +AmV16f169J4-01782-00408744-00408927 often we talk about the patriarchal +AmV16f169J4-01783-00408928-00409087 order uh now let's talk about the +AmV16f169J4-01784-00409088-00409334 matriarchal order um the mother who +AmV16f169J4-01785-00409335-00409575 holds the family together the glue and +AmV16f169J4-01786-00409576-00409782 often part of that glue is this and we +AmV16f169J4-01787-00409783-00409982 mentioned it in the first episode this +AmV16f169J4-01788-00409983-00410318 celestial bond where the path to +AmV16f169J4-01789-00410319-00410518 exaltation and immortality and eternal +AmV16f169J4-01790-00410519-00410743 life leads through the temple and +AmV16f169J4-01791-00410743-00410982 through the celestial kingdom +AmV16f169J4-01792-00410983-00411174 sometimes mothers of gay children will +AmV16f169J4-01793-00411175-00411503 mourn the loss of the celestial break +AmV16f169J4-01794-00411504-00411607 where +AmV16f169J4-01795-00411608-00411799 there's a belief that the family can +AmV16f169J4-01796-00411800-00412174 never be strong again because of a big +AmV16f169J4-01797-00412175-00412382 revelation like this was there a +AmV16f169J4-01798-00412383-00412687 celestial break in your personal +AmV16f169J4-01799-00412688-00412951 experience your family experience and if +AmV16f169J4-01800-00412952-00413374 so how did you heal from that +AmV16f169J4-01801-00413375-00413470 sally +AmV16f169J4-01802-00413471-00413759 and shane left the church a year and a +AmV16f169J4-01803-00413760-00414022 half two years before sally realized she +AmV16f169J4-01804-00414023-00414239 was gay i think leaving the church +AmV16f169J4-01805-00414239-00414422 allowed her to start thinking outside +AmV16f169J4-01806-00414423-00414607 the box and therefore she started to +AmV16f169J4-01807-00414608-00414863 realize things about herself +AmV16f169J4-01808-00414864-00415118 so sally was +AmV16f169J4-01809-00415119-00415310 doomed from the celestial kingdom back +AmV16f169J4-01810-00415312-00415526 then +AmV16f169J4-01811-00415527-00415703 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01812-00415704-00415887 um +AmV16f169J4-01813-00415888-00416063 i +AmV16f169J4-01814-00416064-00416278 i am a future thinker +AmV16f169J4-01815-00416279-00416663 and um to my chagrin and from the minute +AmV16f169J4-01816-00416664-00416966 i had each one of my kids i i had a plan +AmV16f169J4-01817-00416967-00417191 for them and i knew what they were going +AmV16f169J4-01818-00417192-00417447 to do in life and i i +AmV16f169J4-01819-00417447-00417599 knew how they would +AmV16f169J4-01820-00417600-00417799 look and how i would love them so much +AmV16f169J4-01821-00417800-00418039 they would just feel it in their bones +AmV16f169J4-01822-00418039-00418222 sally was my only daughter she was going +AmV16f169J4-01823-00418223-00418447 to be a ballerina for sure +AmV16f169J4-01824-00418447-00418710 i had a little teeny tutu when she was +AmV16f169J4-01825-00418712-00418974 born just because i knew that's what her +AmV16f169J4-01826-00418975-00419126 future was +AmV16f169J4-01827-00419127-00419318 so +AmV16f169J4-01828-00419319-00419479 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01829-00419480-00419531 um +AmV16f169J4-01830-00419532-00419735 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-01831-00419735-00419847 sally +AmV16f169J4-01832-00419847-00420166 one by one all my kids showed me that um +AmV16f169J4-01833-00420167-00420422 that picture that i had practically +AmV16f169J4-01834-00420423-00420735 painted on my mantel in my head +AmV16f169J4-01835-00420735-00421039 was not gonna be the real picture +AmV16f169J4-01836-00421039-00421191 and +AmV16f169J4-01837-00421192-00421431 that was super hard for me +AmV16f169J4-01838-00421432-00421814 super hard i just knew if i followed the +AmV16f169J4-01839-00421815-00422007 recipe the church gave me +AmV16f169J4-01840-00422008-00422159 really carefully +AmV16f169J4-01841-00422160-00422359 that i could make that +AmV16f169J4-01842-00422360-00422655 picture come true and man when they +AmV16f169J4-01843-00422656-00422775 showed me +AmV16f169J4-01844-00422776-00422975 when one of the kids would do something +AmV16f169J4-01845-00422976-00423159 that would say +AmV16f169J4-01846-00423160-00423318 i don't want to be like that in the +AmV16f169J4-01847-00423319-00423575 future boy i just buckled down and just +AmV16f169J4-01848-00423576-00423783 said oh yeah you know you are going to +AmV16f169J4-01849-00423784-00423903 have short hair and you are going to +AmV16f169J4-01850-00423904-00424143 wear a white shirt to church and +AmV16f169J4-01851-00424143-00424318 all that kind of stuff +AmV16f169J4-01852-00424319-00424518 um +AmV16f169J4-01853-00424519-00424870 and here i am +AmV16f169J4-01854-00424871-00425103 my family does not look anything like +AmV16f169J4-01855-00425104-00425310 the picture i thought i had +AmV16f169J4-01856-00425312-00425566 and it looks so much better +AmV16f169J4-01857-00425567-00425751 and i +AmV16f169J4-01858-00425752-00425951 yeah +AmV16f169J4-01859-00425952-00426110 so much +AmV16f169J4-01860-00426112-00426407 um lena was not in that picture +AmV16f169J4-01861-00426408-00426687 uh that i had for my future and i'm so +AmV16f169J4-01862-00426688-00426847 glad she's in it +AmV16f169J4-01863-00426847-00427083 um +AmV16f169J4-01864-00427084-00427359 i i feel like +AmV16f169J4-01865-00427360-00427439 when +AmV16f169J4-01866-00427439-00427647 sally came out she gave our family a +AmV16f169J4-01867-00427647-00427807 gift +AmV16f169J4-01868-00427808-00427887 to +AmV16f169J4-01869-00427888-00428247 the the opportunity to stretch and +AmV16f169J4-01870-00428247-00428543 grow in ways we would not have if she +AmV16f169J4-01871-00428543-00428799 hadn't come out so i am +AmV16f169J4-01872-00428800-00429007 i am grateful for that +AmV16f169J4-01873-00429008-00429104 love you mom +AmV16f169J4-01874-00429105-00429470 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01875-00429471-00429639 all right we're not gonna leave out the +AmV16f169J4-01876-00429639-00429999 last of the osborne family +AmV16f169J4-01877-00430000-00430270 joe and sam you have now +AmV16f169J4-01878-00430271-00430487 had this experience um +AmV16f169J4-01879-00430488-00430655 for better or for worse +AmV16f169J4-01880-00430656-00430855 invade your world um +AmV16f169J4-01881-00430856-00431047 and i'm sure there's some negative +AmV16f169J4-01882-00431047-00431222 criticism that you've received regarding +AmV16f169J4-01883-00431223-00431422 your sister coming out and maybe even +AmV16f169J4-01884-00431423-00431583 the documentary +AmV16f169J4-01885-00431584-00431775 there's also the positive aspect of it +AmV16f169J4-01886-00431776-00432110 you were serving a mission um when uh +AmV16f169J4-01887-00432112-00432831 sally came out +AmV16f169J4-01888-00432832-00433055 i'm not gonna i had a fun comment too i +AmV16f169J4-01889-00433056-00433214 gotta keep my comments +AmV16f169J4-01890-00433215-00433470 reserved so i'm just curious uh so +AmV16f169J4-01891-00433471-00433631 you're serving a mission your sister +AmV16f169J4-01892-00433632-00433807 comes out what were what were your +AmV16f169J4-01893-00433808-00434079 expectations or immediate motivations +AmV16f169J4-01894-00434080-00434279 after hearing that and then +AmV16f169J4-01895-00434280-00434447 just both of you briefly give us kind of +AmV16f169J4-01896-00434447-00434631 what the world has looked like +AmV16f169J4-01897-00434632-00434814 navigating this forward after the great +AmV16f169J4-01898-00434815-00435366 coming out and the documentary +AmV16f169J4-01899-00435367-00435575 it's funny sally wasn't girly enough so +AmV16f169J4-01900-00435576-00435775 my mom raised two boys who wear earrings +AmV16f169J4-01901-00435776-00436041 and paint their nails +AmV16f169J4-01902-00436042-00436943 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01903-00436943-00437103 yeah i was uh i was on my mission in +AmV16f169J4-01904-00437104-00437518 australia i had about two months left um +AmV16f169J4-01905-00437519-00437807 and my mom this was like after they made +AmV16f169J4-01906-00437808-00437951 the change just barely where you could +AmV16f169J4-01907-00437952-00438287 like call home every week um +AmV16f169J4-01908-00438288-00438487 my mom messages me and like hey sally +AmV16f169J4-01909-00438488-00438639 wants to talk to you i was like that's +AmV16f169J4-01910-00438639-00438799 weird like +AmV16f169J4-01911-00438800-00439014 my mom messages me and says my sister +AmV16f169J4-01912-00439015-00439231 wants to talk to me about something +AmV16f169J4-01913-00439232-00439559 uh i knew it was was something was up so +AmV16f169J4-01914-00439560-00439695 um +AmV16f169J4-01915-00439696-00439927 sally calls me and she says i'm gay and +AmV16f169J4-01916-00439928-00440183 i say oh you know like +AmV16f169J4-01917-00440184-00440343 i'm a missionary like +AmV16f169J4-01918-00440343-00440910 i i gotta say that +AmV16f169J4-01919-00440912-00441295 yeah that shucks um +AmV16f169J4-01920-00441296-00441414 um +AmV16f169J4-01921-00441415-00441735 my immediate reaction was was uh +AmV16f169J4-01922-00441735-00441951 sort of like silence to my companions +AmV16f169J4-01923-00441952-00442118 just like not knowing what to do +AmV16f169J4-01924-00442119-00442399 um the next like night i lived with +AmV16f169J4-01925-00442400-00442607 another companionship and i they were +AmV16f169J4-01926-00442608-00442775 like dude what's wrong i was like +AmV16f169J4-01927-00442776-00442999 my sister told me she was gay and like +AmV16f169J4-01928-00443000-00443166 all three of them were just like stone +AmV16f169J4-01929-00443167-00443351 faced like had no idea how to react and +AmV16f169J4-01930-00443352-00443599 i was just like yeah and we like +AmV16f169J4-01931-00443600-00443775 kind of just like we didn't really know +AmV16f169J4-01932-00443776-00443903 what to do and at that point i was +AmV16f169J4-01933-00443904-00444022 pretty conditioned to just put my head +AmV16f169J4-01934-00444023-00444159 down and work +AmV16f169J4-01935-00444160-00444279 um +AmV16f169J4-01936-00444280-00444414 i didn't really have a lot of experience +AmV16f169J4-01937-00444415-00444591 with gay people so i came home and i i +AmV16f169J4-01938-00444592-00444775 didn't really know what to expect and i +AmV16f169J4-01939-00444776-00444991 first time i met lena i hopped out of +AmV16f169J4-01940-00444992-00445199 like sally's van fresh off the mission +AmV16f169J4-01941-00445200-00445343 you know very +AmV16f169J4-01942-00445343-00445527 uh rm like +AmV16f169J4-01943-00445528-00445759 um and she was like oh my gosh joe hey +AmV16f169J4-01944-00445760-00445895 like i've heard so much about you this +AmV16f169J4-01945-00445896-00446055 is crazy and i was like i was this +AmV16f169J4-01946-00446056-00446287 person that wants to be my sister like +AmV16f169J4-01947-00446288-00446510 um but you know +AmV16f169J4-01948-00446512-00446870 this is kind of weird but quickly um +AmV16f169J4-01949-00446871-00446983 i saw +AmV16f169J4-01950-00446984-00447310 how normal they were um +AmV16f169J4-01951-00447312-00447422 you know +AmV16f169J4-01952-00447423-00447622 that's kind of messed up to say but like +AmV16f169J4-01953-00447623-00447855 it's true like i i growing up mormon and +AmV16f169J4-01954-00447856-00448087 super conservative i didn't +AmV16f169J4-01955-00448088-00448270 really i had this idea of what gay +AmV16f169J4-01956-00448271-00448455 people were like and any any member of +AmV16f169J4-01957-00448456-00448679 the lgbtq community and they they very +AmV16f169J4-01958-00448680-00448814 quickly sort of washed that +AmV16f169J4-01959-00448815-00449087 preconception away um +AmV16f169J4-01960-00449088-00449255 and i just saw how happy they were and +AmV16f169J4-01961-00449256-00449551 how authentic and how real it was +AmV16f169J4-01962-00449552-00449655 and +AmV16f169J4-01963-00449656-00449807 uh it took me about you know not too +AmV16f169J4-01964-00449808-00450110 long i i quickly started the process of +AmV16f169J4-01965-00450112-00450287 um eventually within about six months +AmV16f169J4-01966-00450288-00450391 you know just +AmV16f169J4-01967-00450392-00450551 cutting all ties with the church um +AmV16f169J4-01968-00450552-00450679 because i i +AmV16f169J4-01969-00450680-00450791 um +AmV16f169J4-01970-00450792-00451047 it just it just didn't make sense um +AmV16f169J4-01971-00451047-00451247 and so +AmV16f169J4-01972-00451247-00451470 um yeah just just to echo what what my +AmV16f169J4-01973-00451471-00451583 mom said +AmV16f169J4-01974-00451584-00451847 um sally and lena gave gave our family a +AmV16f169J4-01975-00451847-00452055 gift they gave me the gift of +AmV16f169J4-01976-00452056-00452255 um being able to like look inward and +AmV16f169J4-01977-00452256-00452470 see an example of you know what what do +AmV16f169J4-01978-00452471-00452703 we all say oaks that guy's man +AmV16f169J4-01979-00452704-00452831 like come on +AmV16f169J4-01980-00452832-00453047 like +AmV16f169J4-01981-00453047-00453327 god damn everything yeah so +AmV16f169J4-01982-00453328-00453503 um +AmV16f169J4-01983-00453504-00453710 it's been a it's been uh +AmV16f169J4-01984-00453712-00453935 just really a gift to experience that +AmV16f169J4-01985-00453935-00454022 and +AmV16f169J4-01986-00454023-00454470 i'm super grateful +AmV16f169J4-01987-00454471-00454783 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-01988-00454784-00455103 my adderall's wearing off +AmV16f169J4-01989-00455104-00455327 i'm a little fidgety sorry +AmV16f169J4-01990-00455328-00455447 um +AmV16f169J4-01991-00455447-00455743 i uh still go to church +AmV16f169J4-01992-00455743-00455847 uh +AmV16f169J4-01993-00455847-00456183 every week and my wife is no longer not +AmV16f169J4-01994-00456184-00456383 in the back uh in this session watching +AmV16f169J4-01995-00456384-00456822 me and she won't watch this caitlyn um +AmV16f169J4-01996-00456823-00457095 so i can talk a little bit but um +AmV16f169J4-01997-00457096-00457295 i am +AmV16f169J4-01998-00457296-00457551 i +AmV16f169J4-01999-00457552-00457718 when my siblings left the church it was +AmV16f169J4-02000-00457719-00457910 earth shattering i say that later but it +AmV16f169J4-02001-00457912-00458095 was yeah it flipped my world upside down +AmV16f169J4-02002-00458096-00458239 and i +AmV16f169J4-02003-00458239-00458391 i was angry +AmV16f169J4-02004-00458392-00458518 um +AmV16f169J4-02005-00458519-00458614 and +AmV16f169J4-02006-00458615-00458822 for a long time +AmV16f169J4-02007-00458823-00459118 i couldn't even think about my older +AmV16f169J4-02008-00459119-00459310 siblings +AmV16f169J4-02009-00459312-00459455 my three older siblings that left the +AmV16f169J4-02010-00459456-00459543 church +AmV16f169J4-02011-00459543-00459895 and um for a while i prayed for them +AmV16f169J4-02012-00459896-00460047 and +AmV16f169J4-02013-00460047-00460287 and uh and then after a while i couldn't +AmV16f169J4-02014-00460288-00460447 even do that i couldn't even think about +AmV16f169J4-02015-00460447-00460518 them +AmV16f169J4-02016-00460519-00460663 and +AmV16f169J4-02017-00460664-00460887 and i was just like what the heck you +AmV16f169J4-02018-00460888-00461118 guys are so +AmV16f169J4-02019-00461119-00461303 you're you're ruining our celestial +AmV16f169J4-02020-00461304-00461510 family you know that's the big thing for +AmV16f169J4-02021-00461512-00461607 me +AmV16f169J4-02022-00461608-00461775 um +AmV16f169J4-02023-00461776-00461935 and +AmV16f169J4-02024-00461935-00462135 eventually +AmV16f169J4-02025-00462135-00462566 i got to a place where +AmV16f169J4-02026-00462567-00462935 where +AmV16f169J4-02027-00462935-00463135 sally came out and +AmV16f169J4-02028-00463135-00463414 i +AmV16f169J4-02029-00463415-00463566 that that was the biggest blessing for +AmV16f169J4-02030-00463567-00463959 me when sally came out because +AmV16f169J4-02031-00463960-00464199 it helped me confront +AmV16f169J4-02032-00464200-00464318 my own +AmV16f169J4-02033-00464319-00464414 fear +AmV16f169J4-02034-00464415-00464559 and +AmV16f169J4-02035-00464560-00464727 helped me see +AmV16f169J4-02036-00464728-00464951 that what i felt was +AmV16f169J4-02037-00464952-00465135 threatening me and threatening our +AmV16f169J4-02038-00465135-00465295 family +AmV16f169J4-02039-00465296-00465510 um +AmV16f169J4-02040-00465512-00465839 wasn't really real and wasn't +AmV16f169J4-02041-00465839-00466055 actually a threat and our family was +AmV16f169J4-02042-00466056-00466343 whole and our family was +AmV16f169J4-02043-00466343-00466663 good and my siblings were still the same +AmV16f169J4-02044-00466664-00466855 people who raised me +AmV16f169J4-02045-00466856-00467135 and i looked up to and they had not +AmV16f169J4-02046-00467135-00467343 changed and if anything changed for the +AmV16f169J4-02047-00467343-00467487 better and they were living +AmV16f169J4-02048-00467488-00467622 authentically +AmV16f169J4-02049-00467623-00467814 and +AmV16f169J4-02050-00467815-00468007 i just i appreciate sally and i +AmV16f169J4-02051-00468008-00468239 appreciate my my siblings who who came +AmV16f169J4-02052-00468239-00468366 before me and +AmV16f169J4-02053-00468367-00468518 i am +AmV16f169J4-02054-00468519-00468710 i'm on my way out of the church right +AmV16f169J4-02055-00468712-00468855 now and +AmV16f169J4-02056-00468856-00469083 taking it slow +AmV16f169J4-02057-00469084-00469414 in it's tricky um +AmV16f169J4-02058-00469415-00469766 it's it's difficult +AmV16f169J4-02059-00469767-00469935 as we know but +AmV16f169J4-02060-00469935-00470321 i love you guys thank you +AmV16f169J4-02061-00470322-00470679 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02062-00470680-00470975 i'm so glad we have that on i'm so glad +AmV16f169J4-02063-00470976-00471447 we recorded that it was so special +AmV16f169J4-02064-00471447-00471655 i'm continually convinced that +AmV16f169J4-02065-00471656-00471759 i mean +AmV16f169J4-02066-00471760-00471910 the osborne's are +AmV16f169J4-02067-00471912-00472143 in an incredible family +AmV16f169J4-02068-00472143-00472318 they're not unique in this space either +AmV16f169J4-02069-00472319-00472518 many latter-day saint families are +AmV16f169J4-02070-00472519-00472710 experiencing exactly what you're seeing +AmV16f169J4-02071-00472712-00472943 with the osbornes and in my opinion the +AmV16f169J4-02072-00472943-00473095 church is losing some of the best and +AmV16f169J4-02073-00473096-00473222 the brightest +AmV16f169J4-02074-00473223-00473487 because of this topic and another +AmV16f169J4-02075-00473488-00473822 wonderful family uh is +AmV16f169J4-02076-00473823-00474143 stepping away in order to step up and +AmV16f169J4-02077-00474143-00474935 that is where the church is missing out +AmV16f169J4-02078-00474935-00475175 lana just real fast the osborne's have +AmV16f169J4-02079-00475176-00475327 been super supportive we've listened to +AmV16f169J4-02080-00475328-00475543 their stories we don't hear in europe in +AmV16f169J4-02081-00475543-00475735 this episode or throughout the remaining +AmV16f169J4-02082-00475735-00475991 ones much of your family and your family +AmV16f169J4-02083-00475992-00476183 support maybe give the audience just a +AmV16f169J4-02084-00476184-00476399 little update as to what support system +AmV16f169J4-02085-00476400-00476599 you have on your side of the family +AmV16f169J4-02086-00476600-00476863 aside from paul that we see a lot can +AmV16f169J4-02087-00476864-00477079 you talk a little bit about that +AmV16f169J4-02088-00477080-00477383 so i was a convert to the church i got +AmV16f169J4-02089-00477384-00477622 baptized at byu in the joseph smith +AmV16f169J4-02090-00477623-00477966 building when i was 18 years old +AmV16f169J4-02091-00477967-00478175 and yeah there's a baptismal font in the +AmV16f169J4-02092-00478176-00478295 closet +AmV16f169J4-02093-00478296-00478503 of a classroom and you came out of it +AmV16f169J4-02094-00478504-00478670 and i came out of it +AmV16f169J4-02095-00478671-00478799 yes +AmV16f169J4-02096-00478800-00479135 good job +AmV16f169J4-02097-00479135-00479455 but my family was devastated when i got +AmV16f169J4-02098-00479456-00479670 baptized i remember going home for the +AmV16f169J4-02099-00479671-00479983 first time from byu back back home and +AmV16f169J4-02100-00479984-00480191 sitting at brunch with my mom on a +AmV16f169J4-02101-00480192-00480359 sunday which was something we always did +AmV16f169J4-02102-00480360-00480455 after +AmV16f169J4-02103-00480456-00480710 after math i grew up catholic +AmV16f169J4-02104-00480712-00480935 and she just bawled her eyes out and was +AmV16f169J4-02105-00480935-00481135 like don't ever talk to me about this +AmV16f169J4-02106-00481135-00481270 religion i don't want to hear anything +AmV16f169J4-02107-00481271-00481495 about it she says i think it's a phase +AmV16f169J4-02108-00481496-00481622 for you and you're going to grow out of +AmV16f169J4-02109-00481623-00481735 it +AmV16f169J4-02110-00481735-00481839 smart lady +AmV16f169J4-02111-00481839-00481935 um +AmV16f169J4-02112-00481935-00482087 but +AmV16f169J4-02113-00482088-00482279 but i was heartbroken because i was +AmV16f169J4-02114-00482280-00482527 convinced that it was the only way +AmV16f169J4-02115-00482528-00482631 and so +AmV16f169J4-02116-00482632-00482855 i lived 20 years of my life mormon and +AmV16f169J4-02117-00482856-00483070 here i am now +AmV16f169J4-02118-00483071-00483391 oh my gosh my grandmother so i'm italian +AmV16f169J4-02119-00483392-00483614 when i told her i was leaving mormonism +AmV16f169J4-02120-00483615-00483903 she's like i pray for this day for so +AmV16f169J4-02121-00483904-00484166 long +AmV16f169J4-02122-00484167-00484343 it was so cool +AmV16f169J4-02123-00484343-00484575 so i i mean my dad my mom everybody it's +AmV16f169J4-02124-00484576-00484870 just behind me my sister everyone so i'm +AmV16f169J4-02125-00484871-00485118 highly supported +AmV16f169J4-02126-00485119-00485235 yay +AmV16f169J4-02127-00485235-00485470 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02128-00485471-00485599 i just can't wait to get back on the +AmV16f169J4-02129-00485600-00485743 podcast and let everybody know that as +AmV16f169J4-02130-00485743-00485918 soon as you're baptized a new member at +AmV16f169J4-02131-00485919-00486079 byu they force you to come out of the +AmV16f169J4-02132-00486080-00486222 closet +AmV16f169J4-02133-00486223-00486407 i think that's amazing +AmV16f169J4-02134-00486408-00486559 all right let's switch our conversation +AmV16f169J4-02135-00486560-00486718 to byu +AmV16f169J4-02136-00486719-00486879 these three panelists all have stories +AmV16f169J4-02137-00486880-00487014 that are related to byu maybe we'll +AmV16f169J4-02138-00487015-00487207 start with you brad tell us a little bit +AmV16f169J4-02139-00487208-00487487 about color the campus +AmV16f169J4-02140-00487488-00487807 you clearly have uh +AmV16f169J4-02141-00487808-00488047 added some rainbow or created a rainbow +AmV16f169J4-02142-00488047-00488295 fortress to one of the most conservative +AmV16f169J4-02143-00488296-00488631 schools on earth at byu +AmV16f169J4-02144-00488632-00489095 i'm i'm wondering what and we saw um +AmV16f169J4-02145-00489096-00489375 so much of it in episode two um what +AmV16f169J4-02146-00489376-00489639 impact do you think color the campus had +AmV16f169J4-02147-00489639-00489927 in the long term longevity of lgbtq +AmV16f169J4-02148-00489928-00490135 relationships at byu +AmV16f169J4-02149-00490135-00490439 was it positive uh negative what what do +AmV16f169J4-02150-00490439-00490655 you think your overall experience +AmV16f169J4-02151-00490656-00491175 running color the campus will do for byu +AmV16f169J4-02152-00491176-00491462 okay um +AmV16f169J4-02153-00491463-00491807 my intention with creating color the +AmV16f169J4-02154-00491808-00491975 campus rainbow day +AmV16f169J4-02155-00491976-00492239 uh the lighting of the y was because i +AmV16f169J4-02156-00492239-00492566 just felt totally isolated and +AmV16f169J4-02157-00492567-00492791 alone and i didn't want other people to +AmV16f169J4-02158-00492792-00493039 have to experience that +AmV16f169J4-02159-00493039-00493222 i had been told +AmV16f169J4-02160-00493223-00493447 my whole life this is what you do this +AmV16f169J4-02161-00493447-00493710 is how you do it and once i started +AmV16f169J4-02162-00493712-00493983 coming out to more people +AmV16f169J4-02163-00493984-00494175 i kind of felt like i was receiving that +AmV16f169J4-02164-00494176-00494366 again and people were saying +AmV16f169J4-02165-00494367-00494566 you need to now leave byu you need to +AmV16f169J4-02166-00494567-00494799 now leave the church you need to know uh +AmV16f169J4-02167-00494800-00495095 do this and that and i was like why +AmV16f169J4-02168-00495096-00495295 why can't i just be me +AmV16f169J4-02169-00495296-00495431 um +AmV16f169J4-02170-00495432-00495559 i think +AmV16f169J4-02171-00495560-00495839 a lot of people benefit from leaving byu +AmV16f169J4-02172-00495839-00495959 and they need that but there's also a +AmV16f169J4-02173-00495960-00496127 lot of people that want to be there and +AmV16f169J4-02174-00496128-00496399 they deserve that +AmV16f169J4-02175-00496400-00496583 they deserve to +AmV16f169J4-02176-00496584-00496981 feel safe wherever they choose to thrive +AmV16f169J4-02177-00496982-00497143 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-02178-00497143-00497375 and +AmV16f169J4-02179-00497376-00497462 with +AmV16f169J4-02180-00497463-00497766 uh the lighting of the y and uh rainbow +AmV16f169J4-02181-00497767-00497991 day a lot of people +AmV16f169J4-02182-00497992-00498335 um would ask me questions of +AmV16f169J4-02183-00498335-00498487 do you feel like this is working like +AmV16f169J4-02184-00498488-00498703 are we are we sending our message and do +AmV16f169J4-02185-00498704-00498839 you think byu is going to listen i was +AmV16f169J4-02186-00498839-00499151 like whoa my message isn't to byu my +AmV16f169J4-02187-00499152-00499343 message is to the community +AmV16f169J4-02188-00499343-00499614 i want the community to know that +AmV16f169J4-02189-00499615-00499887 no matter what we are here for you +AmV16f169J4-02190-00499888-00500118 um byu sucks +AmV16f169J4-02191-00500119-00500279 in a lot of ways +AmV16f169J4-02192-00500280-00500363 um +AmV16f169J4-02193-00500364-00500622 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02194-00500623-00500879 but if you want to be there +AmV16f169J4-02195-00500880-00501135 we will be there and we will sit with +AmV16f169J4-02196-00501135-00501366 you with that you know we're not going +AmV16f169J4-02197-00501367-00501543 to force you to leave it we're not going +AmV16f169J4-02198-00501543-00501727 to force you to stay +AmV16f169J4-02199-00501728-00501855 where you want to be is where we're +AmV16f169J4-02200-00501856-00501943 going to go +AmV16f169J4-02201-00501943-00502191 i think with this whole experience with +AmV16f169J4-02202-00502192-00502479 the docuseries and and all of that i +AmV16f169J4-02203-00502480-00502662 really hope people +AmV16f169J4-02204-00502663-00502966 are able to grasp this message that +AmV16f169J4-02205-00502967-00503366 queerness is not this monolith it's a +AmV16f169J4-02206-00503367-00503695 i think it's an anti-thesis to that um +AmV16f169J4-02207-00503696-00503943 queerness is this huge spectrum +AmV16f169J4-02208-00503943-00504103 and that's kind of my whole thing with +AmV16f169J4-02209-00504104-00504270 color the campus is it's not black and +AmV16f169J4-02210-00504271-00504510 white it's rainbow +AmV16f169J4-02211-00504512-00504799 there's a place for everybody and +AmV16f169J4-02212-00504800-00504975 there's not +AmV16f169J4-02213-00504976-00505143 one way to +AmV16f169J4-02214-00505143-00505383 be mormon there's not one way to be +AmV16f169J4-02215-00505384-00505510 queer +AmV16f169J4-02216-00505512-00505870 but there's only one way to be you +AmV16f169J4-02217-00505871-00506087 and +AmV16f169J4-02218-00506088-00506295 i can't promise that it's going to be +AmV16f169J4-02219-00506296-00506383 easy +AmV16f169J4-02220-00506384-00506622 a lot of people as i was coming out +AmV16f169J4-02221-00506623-00506822 told me it gets better that's the thing +AmV16f169J4-02222-00506823-00507055 that we always hear it gets better um +AmV16f169J4-02223-00507056-00507262 for me it got worse in a lot of ways for +AmV16f169J4-02224-00507263-00507375 a while +AmV16f169J4-02225-00507376-00507575 and i was so frustrated that people kept +AmV16f169J4-02226-00507576-00507775 telling me it gets better when it didn't +AmV16f169J4-02227-00507776-00507879 um +AmV16f169J4-02228-00507880-00508055 and so i can't promise that it's going +AmV16f169J4-02229-00508056-00508310 to get better leaving the church is hard +AmV16f169J4-02230-00508312-00508543 staying in the church is hard leaving +AmV16f169J4-02231-00508543-00508847 byu is hard staying at pou is hard +AmV16f169J4-02232-00508847-00508999 i can't promise that it's going to be +AmV16f169J4-02233-00509000-00509207 easy but what i can promise is you don't +AmV16f169J4-02234-00509208-00509366 have to do it alone +AmV16f169J4-02235-00509367-00509591 there is going to be people there +AmV16f169J4-02236-00509592-00509847 that will love you and +AmV16f169J4-02237-00509847-00510143 support you wherever you are at +AmV16f169J4-02238-00510143-00510943 and just be you because love always wins +AmV16f169J4-02239-00510943-00511159 thank you and that's a great lead-in to +AmV16f169J4-02240-00511160-00511351 a question that i wanted to bring up and +AmV16f169J4-02241-00511352-00511599 ask you rin um in the episode that +AmV16f169J4-02242-00511600-00511887 you're in you are anonymous your face is +AmV16f169J4-02243-00511888-00512175 blurred and um you're +AmV16f169J4-02244-00512176-00512503 there's at the that level of anonymity +AmV16f169J4-02245-00512504-00512847 as a byu student currently uh why is +AmV16f169J4-02246-00512847-00513118 that necessary why did you feel that you +AmV16f169J4-02247-00513119-00513407 needed to share your story but do it in +AmV16f169J4-02248-00513408-00513670 an anonymous way +AmV16f169J4-02249-00513671-00513943 who is that to protect +AmV16f169J4-02250-00513943-00514231 i mean it was to protect myself because +AmV16f169J4-02251-00514232-00514510 i don't want to get kicked out of byu i +AmV16f169J4-02252-00514512-00514710 have +AmV16f169J4-02253-00514712-00514918 so i have tried to transfer like that's +AmV16f169J4-02254-00514919-00515095 a question a lot of queer byu students +AmV16f169J4-02255-00515096-00515279 get asked like oh why do you stay i'm +AmV16f169J4-02256-00515280-00515422 like well for me it's because i don't +AmV16f169J4-02257-00515423-00515559 have a choice i didn't have a ge i +AmV16f169J4-02258-00515560-00515743 needed to transfer to a california state +AmV16f169J4-02259-00515743-00515895 university which is where i'm from where +AmV16f169J4-02260-00515896-00516007 i would go +AmV16f169J4-02261-00516008-00516110 um +AmV16f169J4-02262-00516112-00516375 so i was like if i go on and i tell the +AmV16f169J4-02263-00516376-00516527 story and what i talked about my +AmV16f169J4-02264-00516528-00516727 interview was about +AmV16f169J4-02265-00516728-00516966 not only how like hard it has been on my +AmV16f169J4-02266-00516967-00517103 mental health but also an experience +AmV16f169J4-02267-00517104-00517270 where my roommates held an intervention +AmV16f169J4-02268-00517271-00517439 because i was gay +AmV16f169J4-02269-00517439-00517607 um +AmV16f169J4-02270-00517608-00517935 which was like so fun i +AmV16f169J4-02271-00517935-00518151 uh it was not fun it was terrible i +AmV16f169J4-02272-00518152-00518295 cried that was one of the first times i +AmV16f169J4-02273-00518296-00518414 ever swore +AmV16f169J4-02274-00518415-00518614 um +AmV16f169J4-02275-00518615-00518766 i +AmV16f169J4-02276-00518767-00518999 no it was um +AmV16f169J4-02277-00519000-00519407 do you guys want the story +AmV16f169J4-02278-00519408-00519679 okay but +AmV16f169J4-02279-00519680-00519839 oh i didn't even say the swear words out +AmV16f169J4-02280-00519839-00520366 loud i like wrote them down +AmV16f169J4-02281-00520367-00520479 so +AmV16f169J4-02282-00520480-00520670 earlier that day i'd had a queer friend +AmV16f169J4-02283-00520671-00520807 over and we had made cookies i was not +AmV16f169J4-02284-00520808-00521022 romantically interested in this person +AmV16f169J4-02285-00521023-00521191 um but they were very visibly queer and +AmV16f169J4-02286-00521192-00521414 my roommates knew i was queer +AmV16f169J4-02287-00521415-00521518 um +AmV16f169J4-02288-00521519-00521631 and then we were like kind of all +AmV16f169J4-02289-00521632-00521831 sitting in the circle in a circle in the +AmV16f169J4-02290-00521832-00522014 kitchen really it was me like up on the +AmV16f169J4-02291-00522015-00522175 counter and them in a half circle around +AmV16f169J4-02292-00522176-00522518 me which bad setup right um +AmV16f169J4-02293-00522519-00522670 and +AmV16f169J4-02294-00522671-00522799 they there was a lull in the +AmV16f169J4-02295-00522800-00522943 conversation and they all looked at each +AmV16f169J4-02296-00522943-00523110 other and after my friend had gone home +AmV16f169J4-02297-00523112-00523247 for the day i noticed that they were all +AmV16f169J4-02298-00523247-00523399 in the back bedroom but i didn't like go +AmV16f169J4-02299-00523400-00523487 and like +AmV16f169J4-02300-00523488-00523647 say anything to them because i was just +AmV16f169J4-02301-00523647-00523839 like i was having fun i was on sugar +AmV16f169J4-02302-00523839-00524039 high because we just made snickerdoodles +AmV16f169J4-02303-00524039-00524118 like +AmV16f169J4-02304-00524119-00524247 i was like i don't want to go talk to my +AmV16f169J4-02305-00524247-00524479 roommates they're kind of downers um and +AmV16f169J4-02306-00524480-00524711 they proceeded to be downers by +AmV16f169J4-02307-00524712-00524991 um coming and +AmV16f169J4-02308-00524992-00525207 saying to me they're like hey wren can +AmV16f169J4-02309-00525208-00525327 we talk to you about something and i was +AmV16f169J4-02310-00525328-00525479 like oh yeah sure what is this an +AmV16f169J4-02311-00525480-00525591 intervention +AmV16f169J4-02312-00525592-00525736 and then they're like no +AmV16f169J4-02313-00525737-00525764 [Laughter] +AmV16f169J4-02314-00525765-00526007 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-02315-00526008-00526214 um and they proceeded to tell me that +AmV16f169J4-02316-00526215-00526366 they wouldn't report me to the honorable +AmV16f169J4-02317-00526367-00526518 office this time +AmV16f169J4-02318-00526519-00526655 um +AmV16f169J4-02319-00526656-00526822 and well what else did they say i try +AmV16f169J4-02320-00526823-00526983 not to think about it because it was not +AmV16f169J4-02321-00526984-00527222 a good time um +AmV16f169J4-02322-00527223-00527447 they also said that one of the reasons +AmV16f169J4-02323-00527448-00527566 why they weren't reporting me to the +AmV16f169J4-02324-00527567-00527670 honor code office this time is because +AmV16f169J4-02325-00527671-00527814 they didn't want anyone to dig on their +AmV16f169J4-02326-00527815-00527983 files and find anything which is like +AmV16f169J4-02327-00527984-00528255 super sketchy +AmV16f169J4-02328-00528256-00528335 um +AmV16f169J4-02329-00528336-00528583 but like they sat there for like +AmV16f169J4-02330-00528584-00528822 easily 15 minutes like and they just +AmV16f169J4-02331-00528823-00529055 talked to me about how i was not +AmV16f169J4-02332-00529056-00529303 being a good person by being gay and +AmV16f169J4-02333-00529304-00529535 how i was they didn't say in as many +AmV16f169J4-02334-00529536-00529839 words about how i was just like +AmV16f169J4-02335-00529840-00530118 detrimenting byu by being at byu um +AmV16f169J4-02336-00530119-00530311 simply because i was queer +AmV16f169J4-02337-00530312-00530551 um and then like i just kind of smiled +AmV16f169J4-02338-00530552-00530743 and nodded along the whole time and i +AmV16f169J4-02339-00530744-00530870 was like yeah of course i hear what you +AmV16f169J4-02340-00530871-00531062 guys are saying and that effectively +AmV16f169J4-02341-00531063-00531183 destroyed my relationship with the +AmV16f169J4-02342-00531184-00531422 roommates and coveted a couple months +AmV16f169J4-02343-00531423-00531607 later a couple weeks later +AmV16f169J4-02344-00531608-00531799 and also the honor code change happened +AmV16f169J4-02345-00531800-00532007 literally later that week +AmV16f169J4-02346-00532008-00532222 um so it was just a big mess but the +AmV16f169J4-02347-00532223-00532383 first time i swore was i like was +AmV16f169J4-02348-00532384-00532543 writing and i'd been writing a to-do +AmV16f169J4-02349-00532544-00532766 list in my notepad and i flipped the +AmV16f169J4-02350-00532767-00532879 page after they were done with the +AmV16f169J4-02351-00532880-00533127 intervention and i was like +AmV16f169J4-02352-00533128-00533479 i effing hate being gay +AmV16f169J4-02353-00533480-00533670 which is like terrible +AmV16f169J4-02354-00533671-00533766 like +AmV16f169J4-02355-00533767-00533943 so anyways that's the intervention story +AmV16f169J4-02356-00533944-00534103 but like +AmV16f169J4-02357-00534104-00534527 i'm totally off track now +AmV16f169J4-02358-00534528-00534662 it's an important story for people to +AmV16f169J4-02359-00534663-00534847 know because like byu empowers the +AmV16f169J4-02360-00534848-00535111 people who are homophobic and +AmV16f169J4-02361-00535112-00535222 you know i had to +AmV16f169J4-02362-00535223-00535343 [Music] +AmV16f169J4-02363-00535344-00535527 you know protect myself i didn't want i +AmV16f169J4-02364-00535528-00535775 don't i i really didn't want those +AmV16f169J4-02365-00535776-00535935 roommates to i don't think they would +AmV16f169J4-02366-00535936-00536079 watch this documentary as much as they +AmV16f169J4-02367-00536080-00536343 need to watch it um i didn't want them +AmV16f169J4-02368-00536344-00536479 to +AmV16f169J4-02369-00536480-00536799 realize oh that's rin talking they hate +AmV16f169J4-02370-00536800-00537039 us and i was like well +AmV16f169J4-02371-00537040-00537183 yeah that hate just kind of justified +AmV16f169J4-02372-00537184-00537327 you ruined my +AmV16f169J4-02373-00537328-00537535 life for like several weeks or several +AmV16f169J4-02374-00537536-00537662 months like +AmV16f169J4-02375-00537663-00537862 i felt like i couldn't go home to my own +AmV16f169J4-02376-00537863-00537975 apartment +AmV16f169J4-02377-00537976-00538327 and it was just it was terrible um +AmV16f169J4-02378-00538328-00538518 but yeah i did it to protect myself and +AmV16f169J4-02379-00538519-00538607 i know +AmV16f169J4-02380-00538608-00538911 the other byu i i'm friends with all the +AmV16f169J4-02381-00538912-00539070 anonymous students who got interviewed +AmV16f169J4-02382-00539071-00539151 like +AmV16f169J4-02383-00539152-00539439 we're all in usga we talked about it in +AmV16f169J4-02384-00539440-00539679 our group chats um +AmV16f169J4-02385-00539680-00539903 and we were all like super scared about +AmV16f169J4-02386-00539904-00540118 doing it we're like nervous when we were +AmV16f169J4-02387-00540119-00540318 offered like each of us had a different +AmV16f169J4-02388-00540319-00540495 angle i'm kind of didn't use my primary +AmV16f169J4-02389-00540496-00540647 angle which is a really good side +AmV16f169J4-02390-00540648-00540870 profile +AmV16f169J4-02391-00540871-00541014 um +AmV16f169J4-02392-00541015-00541135 but +AmV16f169J4-02393-00541136-00541279 yeah we did it to protect ourselves +AmV16f169J4-02394-00541280-00541591 because byu is +AmV16f169J4-02395-00541592-00541879 actively witch hunting people who are +AmV16f169J4-02396-00541880-00542095 queer like one of my friends is +AmV16f169J4-02397-00542096-00542318 literally under an account investigation +AmV16f169J4-02398-00542319-00542495 right now and i'm like +AmV16f169J4-02399-00542496-00542670 you can't kick him out it's his last +AmV16f169J4-02400-00542671-00542759 year +AmV16f169J4-02401-00542760-00543014 so we're it's just so scary to be queer +AmV16f169J4-02402-00543015-00543270 at byu and i hope that it gets better +AmV16f169J4-02403-00543271-00544127 but i don't know if it will +AmV16f169J4-02404-00544128-00544279 i want to build on that story of +AmV16f169J4-02405-00544280-00544439 protection and +AmV16f169J4-02406-00544440-00544687 kind of highlight your story uh maddie +AmV16f169J4-02407-00544688-00544918 you were influenced for the better by +AmV16f169J4-02408-00544919-00545103 harry fisher and the story of harry +AmV16f169J4-02409-00545104-00545222 fisher +AmV16f169J4-02410-00545223-00545366 how do you think +AmV16f169J4-02411-00545367-00545607 documentaries specifically mormon no +AmV16f169J4-02412-00545608-00545718 more +AmV16f169J4-02413-00545719-00545918 might reach those other hairy fishers +AmV16f169J4-02414-00545919-00546118 out there who believe that they're +AmV16f169J4-02415-00546119-00546479 unlovable and broken +AmV16f169J4-02416-00546480-00546614 yeah +AmV16f169J4-02417-00546615-00546775 that's the whole reason why i think any +AmV16f169J4-02418-00546776-00546951 of us wanted to do this documentary +AmV16f169J4-02419-00546952-00547079 because +AmV16f169J4-02420-00547080-00547287 unfortunately we know what it feels like +AmV16f169J4-02421-00547288-00547366 to +AmV16f169J4-02422-00547367-00547518 not have any visibility or +AmV16f169J4-02423-00547519-00547775 representation to not know that we could +AmV16f169J4-02424-00547776-00547903 have a future +AmV16f169J4-02425-00547904-00548103 in the church being gay out of the +AmV16f169J4-02426-00548104-00548262 church being gay that there were any +AmV16f169J4-02427-00548263-00548543 other options for us besides just such +AmV16f169J4-02428-00548544-00548879 self-hatred and shame and +AmV16f169J4-02429-00548880-00549222 and so yeah i i hope that all the hairy +AmV16f169J4-02430-00549223-00549422 fishers out there whether they're male +AmV16f169J4-02431-00549423-00549679 female gay trans +AmV16f169J4-02432-00549680-00549847 anyone who feels like they don't fit in +AmV16f169J4-02433-00549848-00550039 or marginalized that +AmV16f169J4-02434-00550040-00550127 that +AmV16f169J4-02435-00550128-00550295 you're not alone you know i hope this +AmV16f169J4-02436-00550296-00550575 documentary shows that you can be in in +AmV16f169J4-02437-00550576-00550831 your 30s and come out with your kids and +AmV16f169J4-02438-00550832-00551055 have a blended family and that your +AmV16f169J4-02439-00551056-00551247 family no matter their beliefs that it +AmV16f169J4-02440-00551248-00551462 is possible to have that community and +AmV16f169J4-02441-00551463-00551743 to have that togetherness and um +AmV16f169J4-02442-00551744-00551911 i wish that my friend +AmV16f169J4-02443-00551912-00552127 harry had felt that i wish i had felt +AmV16f169J4-02444-00552128-00552383 that earlier i'm glad that i do now +AmV16f169J4-02445-00552384-00552622 and um all of us here we're gonna work +AmV16f169J4-02446-00552623-00552855 until every single queer kid feels that +AmV16f169J4-02447-00552856-00553055 way feel safe and protected and loved +AmV16f169J4-02448-00553056-00553351 just as they are +AmV16f169J4-02449-00553352-00553783 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02450-00553784-00554007 and that protection especially with kids +AmV16f169J4-02451-00554008-00554247 leads me into your story paulie +AmV16f169J4-02452-00554248-00554391 you um +AmV16f169J4-02453-00554392-00554743 you have a fascinating angle to this in +AmV16f169J4-02454-00554744-00554918 uh episode +AmV16f169J4-02455-00554919-00555143 four that's right um +AmV16f169J4-02456-00555144-00555462 my question is how in how as you've +AmV16f169J4-02457-00555463-00555679 embraced not only your sexuality and +AmV16f169J4-02458-00555680-00555927 heritage how has that made you a better +AmV16f169J4-02459-00555928-00556103 person and advocate for those who are +AmV16f169J4-02460-00556104-00556422 put in your situation and you alluded +AmV16f169J4-02461-00556423-00556599 earlier in this panel +AmV16f169J4-02462-00556600-00556966 interview that you +AmV16f169J4-02463-00556967-00557222 were pregnant and the church through lds +AmV16f169J4-02464-00557223-00557487 family services advised you to give up +AmV16f169J4-02465-00557488-00557783 your child for adoption as the best +AmV16f169J4-02466-00557784-00558055 option for you you also were dating a +AmV16f169J4-02467-00558056-00558207 man who was not a member of the church +AmV16f169J4-02468-00558208-00558383 at the time +AmV16f169J4-02469-00558384-00558599 speak to that situation and how could +AmV16f169J4-02470-00558600-00558839 your story and and what was your belief +AmV16f169J4-02471-00558840-00559143 that coming through uh mormon no more +AmV16f169J4-02472-00559144-00559407 might help other people what was it that +AmV16f169J4-02473-00559408-00559607 you wanted other people to see through +AmV16f169J4-02474-00559608-00559975 paulie's story +AmV16f169J4-02475-00559976-00560127 thank you i'm gonna try to remember all +AmV16f169J4-02476-00560128-00560295 those questions +AmV16f169J4-02477-00560296-00560470 um i think +AmV16f169J4-02478-00560471-00560647 one of the most important things for me +AmV16f169J4-02479-00560648-00560911 was like matt said that you're not alone +AmV16f169J4-02480-00560912-00561103 um through +AmV16f169J4-02481-00561104-00561439 so much of my life i felt alone and um +AmV16f169J4-02482-00561440-00561647 my queer story didn't really get told in +AmV16f169J4-02483-00561648-00561822 the documentary but +AmV16f169J4-02484-00561823-00562118 um i think like a lot of queer people +AmV16f169J4-02485-00562119-00562359 were closeted and you know my family had +AmV16f169J4-02486-00562360-00562511 the proclamation to the family on the +AmV16f169J4-02487-00562512-00562607 wall +AmV16f169J4-02488-00562608-00562799 i never felt safe +AmV16f169J4-02489-00562800-00563014 to come out even though i have really +AmV16f169J4-02490-00563015-00563159 wonderful parents and they're very +AmV16f169J4-02491-00563160-00563495 loving um but i knew i was not safe for +AmV16f169J4-02492-00563496-00563791 a lot of reasons and um +AmV16f169J4-02493-00563792-00563999 i knew also growing up in utah being a +AmV16f169J4-02494-00564000-00564175 minority um +AmV16f169J4-02495-00564176-00564375 being a person of color +AmV16f169J4-02496-00564376-00564439 i +AmV16f169J4-02497-00564440-00564662 and and going to a ward that was +AmV16f169J4-02498-00564663-00564822 no one looked like me +AmV16f169J4-02499-00564823-00565031 um i wanted to do this documentary +AmV16f169J4-02500-00565032-00565231 because i knew that there's a lot of +AmV16f169J4-02501-00565232-00565375 other +AmV16f169J4-02502-00565376-00565503 people like me +AmV16f169J4-02503-00565504-00565791 um even in this room you know i am i +AmV16f169J4-02504-00565792-00565999 know i'm a minority even among +AmV16f169J4-02505-00566000-00566127 ex-mormons +AmV16f169J4-02506-00566128-00566351 and i want other +AmV16f169J4-02507-00566352-00566511 people of color +AmV16f169J4-02508-00566512-00566775 who see this to see a minority and to +AmV16f169J4-02509-00566776-00566862 see +AmV16f169J4-02510-00566863-00567039 it's not all +AmV16f169J4-02511-00567040-00567135 um +AmV16f169J4-02512-00567136-00567279 it's not black and white thinking and +AmV16f169J4-02513-00567280-00567495 there's a lot of cultural things and +AmV16f169J4-02514-00567496-00567711 traditional things and there's a lot of +AmV16f169J4-02515-00567712-00568039 beauty outside of mormonism that i have +AmV16f169J4-02516-00568040-00568262 got to reclaim um +AmV16f169J4-02517-00568263-00568407 sorry i'm trying to remember all the +AmV16f169J4-02518-00568408-00568655 questions um +AmV16f169J4-02519-00568656-00569014 so in in regards to dating my spouse +AmV16f169J4-02520-00569015-00569318 um when we met i +AmV16f169J4-02521-00569319-00569559 well actually let me fuss or rewind a +AmV16f169J4-02522-00569560-00569783 little bit as far as my queerness and my +AmV16f169J4-02523-00569784-00570047 queer story i am i identify as bisexual +AmV16f169J4-02524-00570048-00570191 pansexual +AmV16f169J4-02525-00570192-00570543 my first kiss was actually a girl and i +AmV16f169J4-02526-00570544-00570822 um really liked girls i really i'm +AmV16f169J4-02527-00570823-00571055 attracted to everybody i mean +AmV16f169J4-02528-00571056-00571151 um +AmV16f169J4-02529-00571152-00571310 i care about the soul of the person +AmV16f169J4-02530-00571311-00571455 that's always been something that i've +AmV16f169J4-02531-00571456-00571718 noticed about myself um +AmV16f169J4-02532-00571719-00571983 body parts are parts but the soul is the +AmV16f169J4-02533-00571984-00572087 soul +AmV16f169J4-02534-00572088-00572303 is how i see it and so +AmV16f169J4-02535-00572304-00572391 um +AmV16f169J4-02536-00572392-00572614 but i was closeted i never allowed +AmV16f169J4-02537-00572615-00572999 myself to really date someone so when i +AmV16f169J4-02538-00573000-00573255 moved away for college +AmV16f169J4-02539-00573256-00573343 i +AmV16f169J4-02540-00573344-00573614 would drink occasionally and that was my +AmV16f169J4-02541-00573615-00573799 getaway that would be my time where i'd +AmV16f169J4-02542-00573800-00574055 let myself flirt with a girl or you know +AmV16f169J4-02543-00574056-00574255 hold hands with a girl but i would never +AmV16f169J4-02544-00574256-00574518 go past that i would never really allow +AmV16f169J4-02545-00574519-00574814 myself to go past that so +AmV16f169J4-02546-00574815-00574918 um +AmV16f169J4-02547-00574919-00575135 when i met my spouse he kind of called +AmV16f169J4-02548-00575136-00575422 it out before i could even fully say +AmV16f169J4-02549-00575423-00575727 those words i'm bisexual he kind of saw +AmV16f169J4-02550-00575728-00575831 it in me +AmV16f169J4-02551-00575832-00575983 and um +AmV16f169J4-02552-00575984-00576365 give it up for it on by the way +AmV16f169J4-02553-00576366-00576551 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02554-00576552-00576766 he does not he yeah they wanted to +AmV16f169J4-02555-00576767-00576910 interview him for this and he was like +AmV16f169J4-02556-00576911-00577110 no babe that's all you he does not want +AmV16f169J4-02557-00577111-00577327 to be in the spotlight so i'm sorry babe +AmV16f169J4-02558-00577328-00577622 but um he has been the most supportive +AmV16f169J4-02559-00577623-00577831 person in my life the most wonderful +AmV16f169J4-02560-00577832-00577918 human +AmV16f169J4-02561-00577919-00578055 um +AmV16f169J4-02562-00578056-00578351 and when we met he was not mormon and i +AmV16f169J4-02563-00578352-00578439 fell +AmV16f169J4-02564-00578440-00578670 i fell in love with him and +AmV16f169J4-02565-00578671-00578799 that was +AmV16f169J4-02566-00578800-00579103 oh man a huge struggle i think people in +AmV16f169J4-02567-00579104-00579262 the gay community and i think also +AmV16f169J4-02568-00579263-00579543 straight people can recognize that you +AmV16f169J4-02569-00579544-00579743 cannot date someone who's not mormon +AmV16f169J4-02570-00579744-00579943 like that is not okay +AmV16f169J4-02571-00579944-00580159 and uh that was not okay with my parents +AmV16f169J4-02572-00580160-00580503 in any way and um i was 22 when i met +AmV16f169J4-02573-00580504-00580927 him so it was very rocky we went through +AmV16f169J4-02574-00580928-00581222 a lot to say the least um because i was +AmV16f169J4-02575-00581223-00581414 a i was still a true believer in the +AmV16f169J4-02576-00581415-00581599 church so +AmV16f169J4-02577-00581600-00581735 i +AmV16f169J4-02578-00581736-00581927 uh in a lot of ways wanted to do this +AmV16f169J4-02579-00581928-00582062 documentary +AmV16f169J4-02580-00582063-00582335 also for justice for him in a lot of +AmV16f169J4-02581-00582336-00582470 ways because +AmV16f169J4-02582-00582471-00582718 i projected onto him what my family was +AmV16f169J4-02583-00582719-00582918 projecting on to me which is what the +AmV16f169J4-02584-00582919-00583143 church projected which was +AmV16f169J4-02585-00583144-00583335 um he wasn't good enough for me he +AmV16f169J4-02586-00583336-00583495 wasn't this checklist of return +AmV16f169J4-02587-00583496-00583799 missionary or even mormon at the time or +AmV16f169J4-02588-00583800-00583951 any of these things +AmV16f169J4-02589-00583952-00584318 and i saw him for him but i also knew +AmV16f169J4-02590-00584319-00584527 everybody wanted him to be this +AmV16f169J4-02591-00584528-00584662 checklist +AmV16f169J4-02592-00584663-00584951 and um we fought for each other we +AmV16f169J4-02593-00584952-00585262 really fought i had bishops tried to +AmV16f169J4-02594-00585263-00585614 tear us apart and literally like i had a +AmV16f169J4-02595-00585615-00585895 bishop send us to therapy because we +AmV16f169J4-02596-00585896-00586087 were having sex and couldn't stop having +AmV16f169J4-02597-00586088-00586222 sex +AmV16f169J4-02598-00586223-00586510 i'm not i'm not making that up i'm not +AmV16f169J4-02599-00586511-00586710 i'm not making it up the bishop thought +AmV16f169J4-02600-00586711-00586847 we had a problem +AmV16f169J4-02601-00586848-00587047 because who doesn't like sex right i'm +AmV16f169J4-02602-00587048-00587327 just saying um +AmV16f169J4-02603-00587328-00587503 but the bishop thought it was a problem +AmV16f169J4-02604-00587504-00587727 anyways that's a whole other thing but +AmV16f169J4-02605-00587728-00587814 um +AmV16f169J4-02606-00587815-00588118 yeah it was just very rough because i +AmV16f169J4-02607-00588119-00588318 believed in the church but obviously i +AmV16f169J4-02608-00588319-00588710 wasn't fully living it so i had +AmV16f169J4-02609-00588711-00588918 a lot of back and forth in my soul i had +AmV16f169J4-02610-00588919-00589151 a lot of back and forth of feeling like +AmV16f169J4-02611-00589152-00589391 i wasn't good enough and getting that +AmV16f169J4-02612-00589392-00589543 messaging anytime i'd really go to +AmV16f169J4-02613-00589544-00589766 church +AmV16f169J4-02614-00589767-00589918 there were a lot of hard things we went +AmV16f169J4-02615-00589919-00590055 through and +AmV16f169J4-02616-00590056-00590199 i finally +AmV16f169J4-02617-00590200-00590431 said you know i i want to be with you i +AmV16f169J4-02618-00590432-00590655 don't want this church to break us up +AmV16f169J4-02619-00590656-00590847 and we started talking about getting +AmV16f169J4-02620-00590848-00590966 married +AmV16f169J4-02621-00590967-00591166 not in the temple we were thinking about +AmV16f169J4-02622-00591167-00591351 that but he really he had already joined +AmV16f169J4-02623-00591352-00591566 the church but he really had a hard time +AmV16f169J4-02624-00591567-00591710 with things +AmV16f169J4-02625-00591711-00591927 in the church so that's when we found +AmV16f169J4-02626-00591928-00592214 out i was pregnant and our world changed +AmV16f169J4-02627-00592215-00592462 for the better um our daughter is +AmV16f169J4-02628-00592463-00592679 seriously the most amazing +AmV16f169J4-02629-00592680-00592862 light in this world +AmV16f169J4-02630-00592863-00593247 um also kind of a backstory i have a +AmV16f169J4-02631-00593248-00593414 autoimmune disease so i didn't even know +AmV16f169J4-02632-00593415-00593599 if i could have kids or not so getting +AmV16f169J4-02633-00593600-00593703 pregnant +AmV16f169J4-02634-00593704-00594039 was this huge amazing gift for me +AmV16f169J4-02635-00594040-00594207 and um +AmV16f169J4-02636-00594208-00594422 i was 27 and i was not treated with +AmV16f169J4-02637-00594423-00594687 dignity i was treated like a 14 year old +AmV16f169J4-02638-00594688-00594766 who +AmV16f169J4-02639-00594767-00594910 you know got pregnant at a one night +AmV16f169J4-02640-00594911-00595222 stand or something it was really +AmV16f169J4-02641-00595223-00595407 really tough um +AmV16f169J4-02642-00595408-00595622 as you hear me say in the documentary +AmV16f169J4-02643-00595623-00595807 the church is all about families but it +AmV16f169J4-02644-00595808-00596047 really did try to tear apart my family +AmV16f169J4-02645-00596048-00596303 in multiple ways but trying to steal my +AmV16f169J4-02646-00596304-00596495 daughter from me was +AmV16f169J4-02647-00596496-00596783 the absolute worst +AmV16f169J4-02648-00596784-00597022 and i have come to find out that this my +AmV16f169J4-02649-00597023-00597166 story with +AmV16f169J4-02650-00597167-00597399 my daughter is not uncommon i've +AmV16f169J4-02651-00597400-00597495 actually +AmV16f169J4-02652-00597496-00597775 talked now to multiple people who the +AmV16f169J4-02653-00597776-00597862 church +AmV16f169J4-02654-00597863-00598047 gave them that same advice they gave me +AmV16f169J4-02655-00598048-00598207 not advice but +AmV16f169J4-02656-00598208-00598343 um +AmV16f169J4-02657-00598344-00598614 the same kind of talking to like you +AmV16f169J4-02658-00598615-00598791 need to put your child up for adoption +AmV16f169J4-02659-00598792-00598935 and +AmV16f169J4-02660-00598936-00599127 some of these people that i've met did +AmV16f169J4-02661-00599128-00599343 and they are now trying to reconnect and +AmV16f169J4-02662-00599344-00599662 find their child that they gave up +AmV16f169J4-02663-00599663-00599879 so my story +AmV16f169J4-02664-00599880-00600079 getting it out in this documentary was +AmV16f169J4-02665-00600080-00600247 important because +AmV16f169J4-02666-00600248-00600479 i know i'm not the only one and i know +AmV16f169J4-02667-00600480-00600687 that there are other parents out there +AmV16f169J4-02668-00600688-00600943 who the church counseled horribly to and +AmV16f169J4-02669-00600944-00601151 now they're trying to find their child +AmV16f169J4-02670-00601152-00601247 so +AmV16f169J4-02671-00601248-00601447 i think this is an important +AmV16f169J4-02672-00601448-00601647 outlook to have because +AmV16f169J4-02673-00601648-00601895 uh before i when i went through it i +AmV16f169J4-02674-00601896-00602262 didn't know anybody and i didn't know +AmV16f169J4-02675-00602263-00602439 that this is what the church did i +AmV16f169J4-02676-00602440-00602607 thought it was just i +AmV16f169J4-02677-00602608-00602759 i still have a lot of respect for that +AmV16f169J4-02678-00602760-00602991 bishop in a lot of other ways +AmV16f169J4-02679-00602992-00603175 but i thought he was and i knew he was +AmV16f169J4-02680-00603176-00603351 wrong so +AmV16f169J4-02681-00603352-00603639 uh fight for your family do not let +AmV16f169J4-02682-00603640-00603879 things tear them apart +AmV16f169J4-02683-00603880-00604143 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02684-00604144-00604359 fight for your family +AmV16f169J4-02685-00604360-00604462 um +AmV16f169J4-02686-00604463-00604718 and seeing all of you on the osborne +AmV16f169J4-02687-00604719-00604951 family like i actually have a question +AmV16f169J4-02688-00604952-00605175 for them if that's okay +AmV16f169J4-02689-00605176-00605503 um what advice would you all give +AmV16f169J4-02690-00605504-00605575 to +AmV16f169J4-02691-00605576-00605727 a family +AmV16f169J4-02692-00605728-00606031 who isn't accepting and +AmV16f169J4-02693-00606032-00606143 um +AmV16f169J4-02694-00606144-00606366 you know to parents who are still very +AmV16f169J4-02695-00606367-00606614 enriched in the church to siblings who +AmV16f169J4-02696-00606615-00606935 don't even talk to me anymore +AmV16f169J4-02697-00606936-00607183 what advice would you give +AmV16f169J4-02698-00607184-00607422 i guess for me and if they ever watch +AmV16f169J4-02699-00607423-00607727 this maybe for them too +AmV16f169J4-02700-00607728-00607879 so when +AmV16f169J4-02701-00607880-00608239 when somebody comes out everyone needs +AmV16f169J4-02702-00608240-00608503 to hold space for everyone +AmV16f169J4-02703-00608504-00608822 it's not just one way it's not just +AmV16f169J4-02704-00608823-00609062 uh i've gotta +AmV16f169J4-02705-00609063-00609335 hold space for sally as she figures out +AmV16f169J4-02706-00609336-00609607 how to be gay but she held space for me +AmV16f169J4-02707-00609608-00609855 and for the rest of us as we fumbled our +AmV16f169J4-02708-00609856-00610103 way through how to be the family of a +AmV16f169J4-02709-00610104-00610287 gay daughter +AmV16f169J4-02710-00610288-00610366 and +AmV16f169J4-02711-00610367-00610551 um +AmV16f169J4-02712-00610552-00611007 i have learned not to take offense +AmV16f169J4-02713-00611008-00611247 from sally because i said a lot of +AmV16f169J4-02714-00611248-00611399 things wrong +AmV16f169J4-02715-00611400-00611655 um with good intentions but but the +AmV16f169J4-02716-00611656-00611887 incorrect thing to say and she held +AmV16f169J4-02717-00611888-00612255 space for me and didn't get offended +AmV16f169J4-02718-00612256-00612487 she knew the intentions of my heart and +AmV16f169J4-02719-00612488-00612670 so she +AmV16f169J4-02720-00612671-00612870 i've learned through this process what i +AmV16f169J4-02721-00612871-00613087 did wrong and how i could do it better +AmV16f169J4-02722-00613088-00613351 but she was so patient with me +AmV16f169J4-02723-00613352-00613583 so i and that really helped me because +AmV16f169J4-02724-00613584-00613791 if she hadn't been because she was so +AmV16f169J4-02725-00613792-00614047 patient with me i felt comfortable to be +AmV16f169J4-02726-00614048-00614375 open with her and to ask her questions +AmV16f169J4-02727-00614376-00614607 to have conversations with her +AmV16f169J4-02728-00614608-00614847 where if she had been offended because i +AmV16f169J4-02729-00614848-00615007 said the wrong thing once i would have +AmV16f169J4-02730-00615008-00615199 shut down and said oh i better not talk +AmV16f169J4-02731-00615200-00615414 about this anymore so our relationship +AmV16f169J4-02732-00615415-00615591 was able to +AmV16f169J4-02733-00615592-00615799 i don't want to use the word heal but +AmV16f169J4-02734-00615800-00616022 rearrange itself into +AmV16f169J4-02735-00616023-00616343 a better version now because of that +AmV16f169J4-02736-00616344-00616431 so +AmV16f169J4-02737-00616432-00616766 the one piece of advice i would say is +AmV16f169J4-02738-00616767-00616975 whoever you're dealing with +AmV16f169J4-02739-00616976-00617222 whether it's your bishop or your parents +AmV16f169J4-02740-00617223-00617391 or your +AmV16f169J4-02741-00617392-00617559 gay loved one or whatever +AmV16f169J4-02742-00617560-00617751 don't take offense +AmV16f169J4-02743-00617752-00617903 um +AmV16f169J4-02744-00617904-00618110 it won't +AmV16f169J4-02745-00618111-00618399 it won't get you anywhere and +AmV16f169J4-02746-00618400-00618662 um i feel like +AmV16f169J4-02747-00618663-00618766 kind of like when you have a +AmV16f169J4-02748-00618767-00618991 two-year-old and they have a tantrum or +AmV16f169J4-02749-00618992-00619287 a 10 year old that says i hate you mom +AmV16f169J4-02750-00619288-00619559 there's no point in taking offense that +AmV16f169J4-02751-00619560-00619791 your kid hates you we all know you just +AmV16f169J4-02752-00619792-00620055 say well i love you and you can't do +AmV16f169J4-02753-00620056-00620207 anything about that and i will always +AmV16f169J4-02754-00620208-00620527 love you so you know +AmV16f169J4-02755-00620528-00620703 think what you want to think that's how +AmV16f169J4-02756-00620704-00621087 i feel about when you have a family um +AmV16f169J4-02757-00621088-00621351 issue like paulie where she has siblings +AmV16f169J4-02758-00621352-00621591 that won't speak to her +AmV16f169J4-02759-00621592-00621766 my advice would be +AmV16f169J4-02760-00621767-00621951 you know send them a christmas card +AmV16f169J4-02761-00621952-00622191 anyway send them an email anyway love +AmV16f169J4-02762-00622192-00622575 them anyway and don't let that stop you +AmV16f169J4-02763-00622576-00622662 from +AmV16f169J4-02764-00622663-00622879 loving them how they act to you just +AmV16f169J4-02765-00622880-00623062 keep going forward +AmV16f169J4-02766-00623063-00623435 it they'll eventually figure it out +AmV16f169J4-02767-00623436-00623870 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02768-00623871-00624127 just one thing short uh +AmV16f169J4-02769-00624128-00624383 what's allowed me to do that is my own +AmV16f169J4-02770-00624384-00624639 healing my own personal healing i +AmV16f169J4-02771-00624640-00624727 have +AmV16f169J4-02772-00624728-00625055 done a lot uh and we have done a lot of +AmV16f169J4-02773-00625056-00625231 deep +AmV16f169J4-02774-00625232-00625551 uh uncomfortable work on ourselves and +AmV16f169J4-02775-00625552-00625718 understanding and deconstructing +AmV16f169J4-02776-00625719-00625870 mormonism in our childhood and +AmV16f169J4-02777-00625871-00626087 everything helps me to see them better i +AmV16f169J4-02778-00626088-00626247 mean you guys have all been mormons so +AmV16f169J4-02779-00626248-00626407 you understand where they're coming from +AmV16f169J4-02780-00626408-00626639 and i think just realizing that nothing +AmV16f169J4-02781-00626640-00626751 is about you +AmV16f169J4-02782-00626752-00626959 literally nothing that anyone else does +AmV16f169J4-02783-00626960-00627199 is about you and that goes for everybody +AmV16f169J4-02784-00627200-00627287 so +AmV16f169J4-02785-00627288-00627622 it's important to realize that and to to +AmV16f169J4-02786-00627623-00627799 witness everyone and witness their +AmV16f169J4-02787-00627800-00627991 conditioning and their own childhood +AmV16f169J4-02788-00627992-00628175 wounds and +AmV16f169J4-02789-00628176-00628375 realize that we're all just +AmV16f169J4-02790-00628376-00628614 fumbling around trying to figure it out +AmV16f169J4-02791-00628615-00628862 and +AmV16f169J4-02792-00628863-00629151 being able to have boundaries and also +AmV16f169J4-02793-00629152-00629383 hold space and be loving is a is an +AmV16f169J4-02794-00629384-00629622 interesting balance but it's possible i +AmV16f169J4-02795-00629623-00629862 mean i just kept coming back to the bond +AmV16f169J4-02796-00629863-00630055 that we have and the love that's really +AmV16f169J4-02797-00630056-00630335 there and that's what kept me continuing +AmV16f169J4-02798-00630336-00630566 to to grow and to not +AmV16f169J4-02799-00630567-00631231 get stuck in my pain +AmV16f169J4-02800-00631232-00631479 all right as we wrap the last of this +AmV16f169J4-02801-00631480-00631751 screening and just a wonderful day i've +AmV16f169J4-02802-00631752-00631983 i've been so impressed with the stories +AmV16f169J4-02803-00631984-00632151 with the vulnerability with the +AmV16f169J4-02804-00632152-00632343 discussion um that we've had today i +AmV16f169J4-02805-00632344-00632575 want to leave the last word to lena and +AmV16f169J4-02806-00632576-00632862 sal um what haven't we discussed that +AmV16f169J4-02807-00632863-00633183 you wanted to share with this audience +AmV16f169J4-02808-00633184-00633335 with not only the audience that have +AmV16f169J4-02809-00633336-00633607 been here to support you but the mormon +AmV16f169J4-02810-00633608-00633822 no more audience is there a singular +AmV16f169J4-02811-00633823-00634062 message or even perhaps if we were +AmV16f169J4-02812-00634063-00634199 sitting here in a room full of general +AmV16f169J4-02813-00634200-00634518 authorities +AmV16f169J4-02814-00634519-00634735 what what message would you have in +AmV16f169J4-02815-00634736-00634959 closing +AmV16f169J4-02816-00634960-00636343 to either of those groups +AmV16f169J4-02817-00636344-00636766 i think this comes down to +AmV16f169J4-02818-00636767-00636910 humanity +AmV16f169J4-02819-00636911-00637199 and respecting and loving people as they +AmV16f169J4-02820-00637200-00637287 are +AmV16f169J4-02821-00637288-00637559 it's it's about patriarchy it's about +AmV16f169J4-02822-00637560-00637695 racism and +AmV16f169J4-02823-00637696-00637983 and sexism and bigotry it's like when i +AmV16f169J4-02824-00637984-00638159 realized i was gay +AmV16f169J4-02825-00638160-00638270 it was +AmV16f169J4-02826-00638271-00638455 the craziest thing i was like how is +AmV16f169J4-02827-00638456-00638575 this a thing +AmV16f169J4-02828-00638576-00638791 why is this why did anyone ever say this +AmV16f169J4-02829-00638792-00638999 was bad this is the most beautiful +AmV16f169J4-02830-00639000-00639199 feeling i've ever experienced and it +AmV16f169J4-02831-00639200-00639351 really comes down to shining a light on +AmV16f169J4-02832-00639352-00639543 that we're all the same +AmV16f169J4-02833-00639544-00639895 everyone being themselves is +AmV16f169J4-02834-00639896-00640079 if you don't if you're not treating +AmV16f169J4-02835-00640080-00640295 someone like that's beautiful then it's +AmV16f169J4-02836-00640296-00640651 then you got to think again +AmV16f169J4-02837-00640652-00641135 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02838-00641136-00641447 goodness i am +AmV16f169J4-02839-00641448-00641655 just in awe +AmV16f169J4-02840-00641656-00641903 i'm in awe of +AmV16f169J4-02841-00641904-00642118 this whole experience +AmV16f169J4-02842-00642119-00642207 and +AmV16f169J4-02843-00642208-00642503 what it has done for us and our family +AmV16f169J4-02844-00642504-00642687 i mean +AmV16f169J4-02845-00642688-00642895 we have sobbed +AmV16f169J4-02846-00642896-00643103 the when joe told us he was leaving the +AmV16f169J4-02847-00643104-00643247 church we saw i mean it was just like a +AmV16f169J4-02848-00643248-00643510 ripple effect you know and +AmV16f169J4-02849-00643511-00643679 and to know that +AmV16f169J4-02850-00643680-00643943 we didn't do anything we just decided to +AmV16f169J4-02851-00643944-00644127 be ourselves +AmV16f169J4-02852-00644128-00644335 and that that same +AmV16f169J4-02853-00644336-00644551 exact thing even if you're not gay +AmV16f169J4-02854-00644552-00644735 applies to everyone when you live +AmV16f169J4-02855-00644736-00645070 authentically it's contagious +AmV16f169J4-02856-00645071-00645255 and i hope that that's the message +AmV16f169J4-02857-00645256-00645518 people take away is that you don't have +AmV16f169J4-02858-00645519-00645799 to be gay or come from the mormon church +AmV16f169J4-02859-00645800-00646062 to have profound changes in people's +AmV16f169J4-02860-00646063-00646335 lives you can just be you +AmV16f169J4-02861-00646336-00646527 and it will send a message that it's +AmV16f169J4-02862-00646528-00646891 okay for other people to be them +AmV16f169J4-02863-00646892-00647495 [Applause] +AmV16f169J4-02864-00647496-00647670 thank you i want to thank the audience +AmV16f169J4-02865-00647671-00647862 as well for participating and for +AmV16f169J4-02866-00647863-00648159 supporting this cast for supporting the +AmV16f169J4-02867-00648160-00648527 out foundation and the many lgbt lgbtq +AmV16f169J4-02868-00648528-00648743 organizations that benefit through your +AmV16f169J4-02869-00648744-00648975 allyship and your love and again another +AmV16f169J4-02870-00648976-00649135 round of applause to the cast for their +AmV16f169J4-02871-00649136-00649359 vulnerability and their great messages +AmV16f169J4-02872-00649360-00649487 of love +AmV16f169J4-02873-00649488-00650166 thank you +AmV16f169J4-02874-00650167-00650383 no i'm good he says group photo so oh +AmV16f169J4-02875-00650384-00650718 yeah +AmV16f169J4-02876-00650719-00650870 i would be remiss if i didn't take this +AmV16f169J4-02877-00650871-00651391 opportunity to stand before you and +AmV16f169J4-02878-00651392-00651591 well thank you everybody for coming um +AmV16f169J4-02879-00651592-00651743 we'll have sally and lina go out if you +AmV16f169J4-02880-00651744-00651927 want to get some a photo on the way out +AmV16f169J4-02881-00651928-00652110 uh thanks again for brewing for hosting +AmV16f169J4-02882-00652111-00652287 us johnny hebda thank you so much +AmV16f169J4-02883-00652288-00652483 claudia blair +AmV16f169J4-02884-00652484-00652727 um now go home +AmV16f169J4-02885-00652728-00652862 download hulu if you don't have it and +AmV16f169J4-02886-00652863-00653022 watch the other three episodes all right +AmV16f169J4-02887-00653023-00653428 thank you everybody have a great night +B1oukv2yVxI-00000-00000479-00000882 well very sad and regarding the issue of +B1oukv2yVxI-00001-00000883-00001239 loss and damage which has been presented +B1oukv2yVxI-00002-00001240-00001539 as a very high priority by quite a +B1oukv2yVxI-00003-00001540-00001748 number of countries very suppresses +B1oukv2yVxI-00004-00001750-00002313 going on so there will be a meeting of +B1oukv2yVxI-00005-00002314-00002634 the executive committee in March where +B1oukv2yVxI-00006-00002635-00003072 they will look at the waist of putting +B1oukv2yVxI-00007-00003073-00003488 forward an action plan or a work program +B1oukv2yVxI-00008-00003489-00003791 in order to develop the action plan +B1oukv2yVxI-00009-00003792-00004020 according to the decisions that were +B1oukv2yVxI-00010-00004021-00004388 taken in Marrakech it is a fact that +B1oukv2yVxI-00011-00004389-00004668 this issue will not be in the agenda of +B1oukv2yVxI-00012-00004669-00005039 a coming session of a subsidiary bodies +B1oukv2yVxI-00013-00005040-00005441 but it's it's an issue that has a +B1oukv2yVxI-00014-00005442-00005675 process and has this executive committee +B1oukv2yVxI-00015-00005676-00006663 that will be meeting now in March +B1oukv2yVxI-00016-00006664-00006870 you +B4iwSK0qVyE-00000-00000017-00000359 [Music] +B4iwSK0qVyE-00001-00000360-00000671 uh i i will try to answer the question +B4iwSK0qVyE-00002-00000672-00000871 you addressed uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00003-00000872-00001119 and the question is how do you +B4iwSK0qVyE-00004-00001120-00001343 understand power relations in the world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00005-00001344-00001550 today right +B4iwSK0qVyE-00006-00001551-00001847 so in my view +B4iwSK0qVyE-00007-00001848-00002087 there are two main +B4iwSK0qVyE-00008-00002088-00002455 trends in the international system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00009-00002456-00002550 one +B4iwSK0qVyE-00010-00002551-00002726 is the rise +B4iwSK0qVyE-00011-00002727-00003039 of the sino-american +B4iwSK0qVyE-00012-00003040-00003254 in the world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00013-00003255-00003375 which is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00014-00003376-00003567 certainly going to be +B4iwSK0qVyE-00015-00003568-00003759 the dominant feature of the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00016-00003760-00003967 international system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00017-00003968-00004279 in this century and there's no +B4iwSK0qVyE-00018-00004280-00004527 doubt about this +B4iwSK0qVyE-00019-00004528-00004951 and in comparison to the cold war +B4iwSK0qVyE-00020-00004952-00005191 i mean there is a difference +B4iwSK0qVyE-00021-00005192-00005415 and the difference is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00022-00005416-00005615 that the competition between the united +B4iwSK0qVyE-00023-00005616-00005759 states and china +B4iwSK0qVyE-00024-00005760-00006206 is much more is wider than the cold war +B4iwSK0qVyE-00025-00006207-00006439 because it includes +B4iwSK0qVyE-00026-00006440-00006798 an economic and technological component +B4iwSK0qVyE-00027-00006800-00006967 which didn't exist +B4iwSK0qVyE-00028-00006968-00007303 during the cold war so in a sense +B4iwSK0qVyE-00029-00007304-00007503 the the challenges +B4iwSK0qVyE-00030-00007504-00007895 of the sino-american rivalry competition +B4iwSK0qVyE-00031-00007895-00007967 are +B4iwSK0qVyE-00032-00007968-00008046 much +B4iwSK0qVyE-00033-00008047-00008295 wider +B4iwSK0qVyE-00034-00008296-00008495 now +B4iwSK0qVyE-00035-00008496-00008855 it is not going to be like the cold war +B4iwSK0qVyE-00036-00008856-00008999 why +B4iwSK0qVyE-00037-00009000-00009223 because at the same time in the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00038-00009224-00009455 international system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00039-00009456-00009727 you have a second dynamic +B4iwSK0qVyE-00040-00009728-00009967 which is taking place +B4iwSK0qVyE-00041-00009968-00010214 and the second dynamic +B4iwSK0qVyE-00042-00010215-00010367 is created +B4iwSK0qVyE-00043-00010368-00010799 by the rise of a multipolar world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00044-00010800-00011014 in other words what characterizes the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00045-00011015-00011135 international +B4iwSK0qVyE-00046-00011136-00011278 system today +B4iwSK0qVyE-00047-00011279-00011446 make it quite complex +B4iwSK0qVyE-00048-00011447-00011663 and unstable +B4iwSK0qVyE-00049-00011664-00011883 is the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00050-00011884-00012078 articulation +B4iwSK0qVyE-00051-00012079-00012414 between this bipolar structure +B4iwSK0qVyE-00052-00012415-00012678 and a multipolar structure +B4iwSK0qVyE-00053-00012679-00012966 okay so we have a combination of both +B4iwSK0qVyE-00054-00012967-00013215 in the international system so when we +B4iwSK0qVyE-00055-00013216-00013463 start thinking about the international +B4iwSK0qVyE-00056-00013463-00013566 system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00057-00013568-00013991 we have to keep in mind both dynamics +B4iwSK0qVyE-00058-00013991-00014086 and +B4iwSK0qVyE-00059-00014087-00014455 the the the important question +B4iwSK0qVyE-00060-00014456-00014727 is to understand +B4iwSK0qVyE-00061-00014728-00014999 how international actors +B4iwSK0qVyE-00062-00015000-00015319 are reacting to those +B4iwSK0qVyE-00063-00015319-00015566 main dynamics +B4iwSK0qVyE-00064-00015568-00015879 and in my view this new +B4iwSK0qVyE-00065-00015880-00016079 organization +B4iwSK0qVyE-00066-00016080-00016383 of the international system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00067-00016384-00016839 is creating three kind of actors +B4iwSK0qVyE-00068-00016840-00017230 the first are what i call the followers +B4iwSK0qVyE-00069-00017231-00017358 the second +B4iwSK0qVyE-00070-00017359-00017655 are what i call the bystanders +B4iwSK0qVyE-00071-00017656-00017839 and the third +B4iwSK0qVyE-00072-00017840-00018158 are what i call the hedgers and let me +B4iwSK0qVyE-00073-00018159-00018503 develop if you allow me to do so +B4iwSK0qVyE-00074-00018504-00018758 those three main +B4iwSK0qVyE-00075-00018759-00018886 actors +B4iwSK0qVyE-00076-00018887-00019239 the followers are those who +B4iwSK0qVyE-00077-00019240-00019503 decided on purpose +B4iwSK0qVyE-00078-00019504-00019711 for national reasons +B4iwSK0qVyE-00079-00019712-00020103 to take side in the sino-american +B4iwSK0qVyE-00080-00020104-00020222 competition +B4iwSK0qVyE-00081-00020223-00020447 so they think that they will increase +B4iwSK0qVyE-00082-00020448-00020719 the national leverage in being part of +B4iwSK0qVyE-00083-00020720-00020886 that competition +B4iwSK0qVyE-00084-00020887-00021167 and what we saw with australia +B4iwSK0qVyE-00085-00021168-00021486 is a perfect illustration of this in a +B4iwSK0qVyE-00086-00021487-00021830 sense that three years ago the the uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00087-00021831-00022039 the the first the the prime minister of +B4iwSK0qVyE-00088-00022040-00022335 australia said that australia is not +B4iwSK0qVyE-00089-00022336-00022599 going to take side between the united +B4iwSK0qVyE-00090-00022600-00022935 states and china and now they decided to +B4iwSK0qVyE-00091-00022936-00023167 align on the united states +B4iwSK0qVyE-00092-00023168-00023463 which is a perfectly respectable choice +B4iwSK0qVyE-00093-00023464-00023799 made by the australian i mean my point +B4iwSK0qVyE-00094-00023800-00024030 here is not to say if it's good or bad +B4iwSK0qVyE-00095-00024031-00024191 i'm just trying to analyze the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00096-00024192-00024407 international system it works +B4iwSK0qVyE-00097-00024408-00024535 but +B4iwSK0qVyE-00098-00024536-00024886 the decision taken by the australians +B4iwSK0qVyE-00099-00024887-00025135 has another implication +B4iwSK0qVyE-00100-00025136-00025463 it means that china's influence +B4iwSK0qVyE-00101-00025464-00025870 is resented in the world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00102-00025872-00025999 negatively +B4iwSK0qVyE-00103-00026000-00026262 by an increasing number of countries and +B4iwSK0qVyE-00104-00026263-00026495 not only in the west that's what our +B4iwSK0qVyE-00105-00026495-00026646 chinese friends think +B4iwSK0qVyE-00106-00026647-00026935 but in in many other parts of the world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00107-00026936-00027223 the chinese influence is resented and i +B4iwSK0qVyE-00108-00027224-00027535 think that it's a mixed message which is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00109-00027536-00027918 sent by orcas and in my view the chinese +B4iwSK0qVyE-00110-00027919-00027999 should +B4iwSK0qVyE-00111-00028000-00028287 take this into account but obviously +B4iwSK0qVyE-00112-00028288-00028567 there is a source of polarization +B4iwSK0qVyE-00113-00028568-00028767 around this uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00114-00028768-00029062 uh this conflict so that +B4iwSK0qVyE-00115-00029063-00029231 and on the other side +B4iwSK0qVyE-00116-00029232-00029462 on the chinese side you can for example +B4iwSK0qVyE-00117-00029463-00029862 argue that pakistan has decided to side +B4iwSK0qVyE-00118-00029863-00030039 with +B4iwSK0qVyE-00119-00030039-00030318 china which and the pakistanis used to +B4iwSK0qVyE-00120-00030319-00030479 say +B4iwSK0qVyE-00121-00030480-00030855 that china is an all-weather ally okay +B4iwSK0qVyE-00122-00030856-00031102 so you have countries who are going to +B4iwSK0qVyE-00123-00031103-00031367 take sides very clearly +B4iwSK0qVyE-00124-00031368-00031655 you have a second category of uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00125-00031656-00031790 countries +B4iwSK0qVyE-00126-00031791-00032095 who are bystanders they are waiting they +B4iwSK0qVyE-00127-00032095-00032270 are seeing +B4iwSK0qVyE-00128-00032272-00032527 in many cases they don't feel for the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00129-00032527-00032774 moment concerned by the competition +B4iwSK0qVyE-00130-00032775-00033079 between the united states and china +B4iwSK0qVyE-00131-00033080-00033215 and +B4iwSK0qVyE-00132-00033216-00033455 many countries in africa even in the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00133-00033456-00033783 middle east or in latin america i mean +B4iwSK0qVyE-00134-00033784-00034023 are seeing the rise of this competition +B4iwSK0qVyE-00135-00034024-00034207 but i mean don't feel necessarily +B4iwSK0qVyE-00136-00034208-00034518 concerned but so they are bystanding +B4iwSK0qVyE-00137-00034519-00034718 they are not taking side +B4iwSK0qVyE-00138-00034719-00034935 they have good relation with both sides +B4iwSK0qVyE-00139-00034936-00035118 and they think that they can increase +B4iwSK0qVyE-00140-00035119-00035343 their leverage and defend their national +B4iwSK0qVyE-00141-00035344-00035662 interest without taking side and for the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00142-00035663-00035862 moment it's the majority of the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00143-00035863-00036023 countries +B4iwSK0qVyE-00144-00036024-00036302 you have a third category which is in my +B4iwSK0qVyE-00145-00036303-00036502 view extremely important +B4iwSK0qVyE-00146-00036503-00036839 which is what i call the hedgers +B4iwSK0qVyE-00147-00036840-00037055 so the hedgers +B4iwSK0qVyE-00148-00037056-00037311 uh coming from the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00149-00037312-00037751 the verb to her to hajj +B4iwSK0qVyE-00150-00037752-00037927 concerns +B4iwSK0qVyE-00151-00037928-00038271 large countries significant countries +B4iwSK0qVyE-00152-00038272-00038518 who want to increase the leverage in the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00153-00038519-00038751 international system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00154-00038752-00038990 who understood that this competition is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00155-00038991-00039215 going to be crucial +B4iwSK0qVyE-00156-00039216-00039671 and want to uh play on this competition +B4iwSK0qVyE-00157-00039672-00039871 to increase their leverage +B4iwSK0qVyE-00158-00039872-00039959 and +B4iwSK0qVyE-00159-00039960-00040167 you have i give you three examples who +B4iwSK0qVyE-00160-00040168-00040374 are totally different you have the case +B4iwSK0qVyE-00161-00040375-00040662 of russia you have the case of turkey +B4iwSK0qVyE-00162-00040663-00040902 and you had the curse of india +B4iwSK0qVyE-00163-00040903-00041118 if you take the case of russia +B4iwSK0qVyE-00164-00041119-00041302 russia obviously +B4iwSK0qVyE-00165-00041303-00041583 obviously understood that is not going +B4iwSK0qVyE-00166-00041584-00041711 to become +B4iwSK0qVyE-00167-00041712-00041911 once again the big power +B4iwSK0qVyE-00168-00041912-00042183 but they want to increase considerably +B4iwSK0qVyE-00169-00042184-00042511 the leverage in the international system +B4iwSK0qVyE-00170-00042512-00042662 against the west +B4iwSK0qVyE-00171-00042663-00043015 against europe against the united states +B4iwSK0qVyE-00172-00043016-00043367 and in building an informal alliance +B4iwSK0qVyE-00173-00043368-00043623 with the chinese not a formal alliance +B4iwSK0qVyE-00174-00043624-00043823 it's an informal alliance to increase +B4iwSK0qVyE-00175-00043824-00044039 their leverage so they think that this +B4iwSK0qVyE-00176-00044040-00044246 competition between the united states +B4iwSK0qVyE-00177-00044247-00044551 and china is going to benefit russia +B4iwSK0qVyE-00178-00044552-00044799 uh in a way or another and there are +B4iwSK0qVyE-00179-00044800-00045062 plenty of examples +B4iwSK0qVyE-00180-00045063-00045399 in this regard the indians +B4iwSK0qVyE-00181-00045400-00045646 and particularly after what happened in +B4iwSK0qVyE-00182-00045647-00045887 afghanistan +B4iwSK0qVyE-00183-00045888-00046118 are of course keen to +B4iwSK0qVyE-00184-00046119-00046367 increase their independence +B4iwSK0qVyE-00185-00046368-00046574 and they are not going to become the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00186-00046575-00046815 followers of the united states that's +B4iwSK0qVyE-00187-00046816-00046983 not in the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00188-00046984-00047318 indian parameters but but +B4iwSK0qVyE-00189-00047319-00047423 uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00190-00047424-00047527 they +B4iwSK0qVyE-00191-00047528-00047758 are certainly going within the quad for +B4iwSK0qVyE-00192-00047759-00047871 example +B4iwSK0qVyE-00193-00047872-00048071 increase the strategic cooperation with +B4iwSK0qVyE-00194-00048072-00048223 the united states +B4iwSK0qVyE-00195-00048224-00048439 of course to +B4iwSK0qVyE-00196-00048440-00048623 balance +B4iwSK0qVyE-00197-00048624-00048783 china which is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00198-00048784-00048895 their +B4iwSK0qVyE-00199-00048896-00049062 main rival +B4iwSK0qVyE-00200-00049063-00049335 in the international system and the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00201-00049336-00049567 third case which is also very different +B4iwSK0qVyE-00202-00049568-00049751 from the two others in the case of +B4iwSK0qVyE-00203-00049752-00050062 turkey of course turkey is not +B4iwSK0qVyE-00204-00050063-00050399 concerned by the sino-american rift +B4iwSK0qVyE-00205-00050400-00050862 uh in as such but turkey understood +B4iwSK0qVyE-00206-00050863-00051158 that there is a slightly weakening of +B4iwSK0qVyE-00207-00051159-00051382 the position of the united states in the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00208-00051383-00051550 world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00209-00051551-00051726 and they +B4iwSK0qVyE-00210-00051727-00052126 want to take advantage of this +B4iwSK0qVyE-00211-00052127-00052399 to increase the leverage visa with the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00212-00052400-00052759 united states in for example +B4iwSK0qVyE-00213-00052760-00053063 having a purely +B4iwSK0qVyE-00214-00053064-00053319 let's say +B4iwSK0qVyE-00215-00053320-00053511 i mean interested +B4iwSK0qVyE-00216-00053512-00053815 relationship with uh with the with +B4iwSK0qVyE-00217-00053816-00054119 russia and russia of course +B4iwSK0qVyE-00218-00054120-00054447 understood that they can or they have to +B4iwSK0qVyE-00219-00054448-00054750 accept many things from the turks if +B4iwSK0qVyE-00220-00054751-00054854 they want +B4iwSK0qVyE-00221-00054855-00055191 to have the turks more independent from +B4iwSK0qVyE-00222-00055191-00055375 the united states +B4iwSK0qVyE-00223-00055376-00055719 now in all this where europe stands +B4iwSK0qVyE-00224-00055720-00056030 europe's has two liabilities in this +B4iwSK0qVyE-00225-00056032-00056319 first because europe is not a state +B4iwSK0qVyE-00226-00056320-00056535 it's not a state +B4iwSK0qVyE-00227-00056536-00056775 and second +B4iwSK0qVyE-00228-00056776-00056926 europe was not +B4iwSK0qVyE-00229-00056927-00057223 historically constructed to deal with +B4iwSK0qVyE-00230-00057224-00057503 power politics so we have structurally +B4iwSK0qVyE-00231-00057504-00057863 to face those two main constraints +B4iwSK0qVyE-00232-00057864-00058087 not being a state so we have to define +B4iwSK0qVyE-00233-00058088-00058279 common interests +B4iwSK0qVyE-00234-00058279-00058423 and second +B4iwSK0qVyE-00235-00058424-00058599 i mean the driving force behind the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00236-00058600-00058942 european union was not power politics i +B4iwSK0qVyE-00237-00058944-00059238 mean i used to say that europe was +B4iwSK0qVyE-00238-00059239-00059454 historically built against power +B4iwSK0qVyE-00239-00059455-00059726 politics so it's a sea change but we +B4iwSK0qVyE-00240-00059727-00059871 cannot afford +B4iwSK0qVyE-00241-00059872-00060047 uh staying +B4iwSK0qVyE-00242-00060048-00060335 like a soft power because all instrument +B4iwSK0qVyE-00243-00060336-00060575 of soft power are becoming now +B4iwSK0qVyE-00244-00060576-00060806 instrument of hard powered +B4iwSK0qVyE-00245-00060807-00060982 so +B4iwSK0qVyE-00246-00060983-00061303 if we and i will finish with this +B4iwSK0qVyE-00247-00061304-00061535 we have those three main actors the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00248-00061536-00061766 united states russia +B4iwSK0qVyE-00249-00061767-00062063 and china among others of course +B4iwSK0qVyE-00250-00062064-00062263 vis-a-vis the united states i mean +B4iwSK0qVyE-00251-00062264-00062582 nobody seriously in europe +B4iwSK0qVyE-00252-00062583-00062903 discussed the fact that nato is the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00253-00062904-00063303 backbone of our security so there's no +B4iwSK0qVyE-00254-00063304-00063535 serious debate about this +B4iwSK0qVyE-00255-00063536-00063719 the debate is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00256-00063720-00063911 whether +B4iwSK0qVyE-00257-00063912-00064182 nato is the exclusive +B4iwSK0qVyE-00258-00064183-00064366 instrument +B4iwSK0qVyE-00259-00064367-00064638 uh for our security +B4iwSK0qVyE-00260-00064639-00064838 that's the first question and there is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00261-00064839-00065015 an additional question +B4iwSK0qVyE-00262-00065016-00065230 concerning the nature of the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00263-00065232-00065526 relationship within nato +B4iwSK0qVyE-00264-00065527-00065767 and obviously on those two questions +B4iwSK0qVyE-00265-00065768-00065926 there are debates +B4iwSK0qVyE-00266-00065927-00066111 but i think that there is an +B4iwSK0qVyE-00267-00066112-00066367 unsatisfaction on both +B4iwSK0qVyE-00268-00066368-00066494 on those +B4iwSK0qVyE-00269-00066495-00066799 two points +B4iwSK0qVyE-00270-00066800-00066975 there are areas +B4iwSK0qVyE-00271-00066976-00067087 in which +B4iwSK0qVyE-00272-00067088-00067406 obviously europeans have an interest but +B4iwSK0qVyE-00273-00067407-00067526 within which +B4iwSK0qVyE-00274-00067527-00067759 nato is not going to be involved and you +B4iwSK0qVyE-00275-00067760-00068006 mentioned sahel it's a good illustration +B4iwSK0qVyE-00276-00068007-00068167 of this so +B4iwSK0qVyE-00277-00068168-00068479 we need to have a common position we +B4iwSK0qVyE-00278-00068480-00068735 need to have a common european +B4iwSK0qVyE-00279-00068736-00068967 involvement in this part of the world +B4iwSK0qVyE-00280-00068968-00069126 because nato is not going to be the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00281-00069127-00069503 answer to all our security problems +B4iwSK0qVyE-00282-00069504-00069791 and i think that the americans +B4iwSK0qVyE-00283-00069792-00070087 are understanding this quite uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00284-00070088-00070319 seriously and that was mentioned in the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00285-00070320-00070550 communique between uh +B4iwSK0qVyE-00286-00070551-00070982 biden and uh and and macron and second +B4iwSK0qVyE-00287-00070983-00071247 there is a kind of unsatisfaction on the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00288-00071248-00071423 nature of the dialogue between the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00289-00071424-00071887 united states and europe within nato +B4iwSK0qVyE-00290-00071888-00072238 so obviously this view is not shared by +B4iwSK0qVyE-00291-00072239-00072599 all member states in europe but +B4iwSK0qVyE-00292-00072600-00072815 the point and i think that the hrvp will +B4iwSK0qVyE-00293-00072816-00073087 develop it later on in his dialogue with +B4iwSK0qVyE-00294-00073088-00073271 tiri +B4iwSK0qVyE-00295-00073272-00073431 the point is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00296-00073432-00073694 that first of all you have nato members +B4iwSK0qVyE-00297-00073695-00073911 who are not part of the european union +B4iwSK0qVyE-00298-00073912-00074111 and this is a problem and this is a +B4iwSK0qVyE-00299-00074112-00074215 problem +B4iwSK0qVyE-00300-00074216-00074391 because when we talk about constructing +B4iwSK0qVyE-00301-00074392-00074606 a european pillar in europe i mean +B4iwSK0qVyE-00302-00074607-00074935 within nato i mean we have non-eu +B4iwSK0qVyE-00303-00074936-00075047 countries +B4iwSK0qVyE-00304-00075048-00075326 uh who are uh part of the debate in nato +B4iwSK0qVyE-00305-00075327-00075631 so by construction nato cannot be the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00306-00075632-00075879 exclusive place where our strategic +B4iwSK0qVyE-00307-00075880-00076023 dialogue with the united states should +B4iwSK0qVyE-00308-00076024-00076247 take place and actually the united +B4iwSK0qVyE-00309-00076248-00076559 states have accepted that since they in +B4iwSK0qVyE-00310-00076560-00076806 the recent i mean following the visit of +B4iwSK0qVyE-00311-00076807-00077047 president biden in brussels the the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00312-00077048-00077311 united states have accepted the idea of +B4iwSK0qVyE-00313-00077312-00077599 a dial a strategic dialogue between the +B4iwSK0qVyE-00314-00077600-00077694 eu +B4iwSK0qVyE-00315-00077695-00077926 and the united states but it's not in +B4iwSK0qVyE-00316-00077927-00078199 opposition to nato it's just if we want +B4iwSK0qVyE-00317-00078200-00078511 to have a european pillar within nato we +B4iwSK0qVyE-00318-00078512-00078703 need to construct this european pillar +B4iwSK0qVyE-00319-00078704-00078871 and in order to construct this european +B4iwSK0qVyE-00320-00078872-00079199 pillar we need to have a concentration +B4iwSK0qVyE-00321-00079200-00079447 at dialogue among europeans so there is +B4iwSK0qVyE-00322-00079448-00079791 no contradiction accepted if we consider +B4iwSK0qVyE-00323-00079792-00080124 that the status quo is quite perfect +B4iwSK0qVyE-00324-00080125-00080672 [Music] +B5_16am5OIQ-00000-00000039-00000271 i swear i won't forget this why do i +B5_16am5OIQ-00001-00000272-00000511 regret this and my mind reckless +B5_16am5OIQ-00002-00000512-00000726 thoughts are feeling endless sitting up +B5_16am5OIQ-00003-00000727-00000983 on breathless anxieties infectious i +B5_16am5OIQ-00004-00000984-00001183 feel so defenseless betrayed and +B5_16am5OIQ-00005-00001184-00001454 embarrassed i hate being open i hate +B5_16am5OIQ-00006-00001455-00001718 being broken i feel like an ocean filled +B5_16am5OIQ-00007-00001719-00002047 up with emotion anger in a potion rub it +B5_16am5OIQ-00008-00002048-00002295 on like lotion i can feel it soak in +B5_16am5OIQ-00009-00002296-00004070 reopen the scars +B5_16am5OIQ-00010-00004071-00004529 i feel so lost never at home 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and look +B6xInCus7oQ-00010-00009343-00009501 when I do and say everybody who wants to +B6xInCus7oQ-00011-00009502-00010251 run run but I can't stop somebody in +B6xInCus7oQ-00012-00010252-00010496 your life you can't stop believing in +B6xInCus7oQ-00013-00010497-00010695 yourself +B6xInCus7oQ-00014-00010696-00011330 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00015-00011331-00011435 you +B6xInCus7oQ-00016-00011436-00014104 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00017-00014105-00014737 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00018-00014738-00015000 you +B6xInCus7oQ-00020-00022139-00022586 yeah +B6xInCus7oQ-00021-00022587-00023161 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00022-00023162-00024050 you +B6xInCus7oQ-00023-00024051-00025844 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00024-00025845-00026505 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00025-00026506-00026908 I could stay like this forever following +B6xInCus7oQ-00026-00026910-00028502 you just I could stay like this forever +B6xInCus7oQ-00027-00028502-00028707 following you +B6xInCus7oQ-00028-00028708-00030039 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00030-00033280-00034094 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00031-00034095-00034489 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00032-00034490-00035727 I could say like this forever following +B6xInCus7oQ-00033-00035728-00035833 you +B6xInCus7oQ-00034-00035834-00036296 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00035-00036297-00036595 just don't get too far +B6xInCus7oQ-00036-00036596-00038323 [Music] +B6xInCus7oQ-00037-00038324-00039435 [Music] +B8wKm-l6v9U-00000-00000118-00001518 [Music] +B8wKm-l6v9U-00001-00001519-00001984 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00002-00001985-00002273 hello my name is Deidre Martinez I'm the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00003-00002274-00002423 executive director with the Sheboygan +B8wKm-l6v9U-00004-00002424-00002633 County Chamber of Commerce and we are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00005-00002634-00002879 pleased to get to know some of our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00006-00002880-00003091 candidates for the state of assembly +B8wKm-l6v9U-00007-00003092-00003419 27th District in this in Wisconsin thank +B8wKm-l6v9U-00008-00003420-00003569 you so much for your willingness to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00009-00003570-00003827 participate in this conversation and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00010-00003828-00004013 really your willingness to serve in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00011-00004014-00004493 27th District it takes a lot for folks +B8wKm-l6v9U-00012-00004494-00004715 nowadays to even run for political +B8wKm-l6v9U-00013-00004716-00004943 offices so really truly appreciative of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00014-00004944-00005152 that thank you to everyone who is here +B8wKm-l6v9U-00015-00005153-00005386 with us in the room and certainly thank +B8wKm-l6v9U-00016-00005387-00005549 you to everybody who sent in questions +B8wKm-l6v9U-00017-00005550-00005927 in advance so a quick go over the rules +B8wKm-l6v9U-00018-00005928-00006172 today I will ask a series of questions +B8wKm-l6v9U-00019-00006173-00006431 that were sent in from either +B8wKm-l6v9U-00020-00006431-00006653 electronically or from folks in the room +B8wKm-l6v9U-00021-00006654-00006898 we will give each candidate two minutes +B8wKm-l6v9U-00022-00006900-00007145 to answer or respond to the question +B8wKm-l6v9U-00023-00007145-00007391 there is a time keeper she will let you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00024-00007392-00007642 know when you've got 30 seconds left and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00025-00007643-00007756 then of course when your time has +B8wKm-l6v9U-00026-00007758-00007948 expired and then at the end of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00027-00007950-00008123 program we will give each of you two +B8wKm-l6v9U-00028-00008123-00008392 minutes for any closing comments or to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00029-00008393-00008513 share anything that you would like to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00030-00008514-00008651 share with the group +B8wKm-l6v9U-00031-00008652-00009017 so first let's meet the candidates first +B8wKm-l6v9U-00032-00009018-00009227 we've got Republican candidate Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00033-00009228-00009478 binsfeld she was born and raised in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00034-00009479-00009664 Howards Grove and graduated from +B8wKm-l6v9U-00035-00009665-00009977 Manitowoc Lutheran High School at 19 Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00036-00009978-00010145 began her full-time career working for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00037-00010146-00010283 the family business +B8wKm-l6v9U-00038-00010284-00010487 with the support of her husband Nick Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00039-00010488-00010673 chose to return to school and received +B8wKm-l6v9U-00040-00010674-00011021 her paralegal degree in 2013. Amy serves +B8wKm-l6v9U-00041-00011022-00011183 as the vice president of the West View +B8wKm-l6v9U-00042-00011184-00011405 Condo Association and is part of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00043-00011406-00011596 visual and sound committee at her local +B8wKm-l6v9U-00044-00011597-00011842 church Amy currently resides in the town +B8wKm-l6v9U-00045-00011843-00012028 of mosul with husband Nick and two +B8wKm-l6v9U-00046-00012029-00012377 children Alyssa and Logan welcome Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00047-00012378-00012659 we also have independent candidate Chet +B8wKm-l6v9U-00048-00012660-00012941 gerlock who grew up in South Milwaukee a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00049-00012941-00013085 small suburban Milwaukee Community +B8wKm-l6v9U-00050-00013086-00013308 located on the shores of Lake Michigan +B8wKm-l6v9U-00051-00013309-00013577 in high school Chet was involved in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00052-00013578-00013805 student council and while attending St +B8wKm-l6v9U-00053-00013806-00014063 Norbert College he was elected to serve +B8wKm-l6v9U-00054-00014063-00014399 as student body president from 1975 to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00055-00014400-00014680 1985 he was a member of the Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00056-00014681-00014897 State Assembly representing the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00057-00014897-00015113 communities of South Milwaukee Oak Creek +B8wKm-l6v9U-00058-00015113-00015527 and cudahi from 1985 to 2018 +B8wKm-l6v9U-00059-00015528-00015719 he was in business for himself as a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00060-00015719-00015977 political consultant and lobbyist and in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00061-00015978-00016216 2019 Chet and his wife Barbara retired +B8wKm-l6v9U-00062-00016218-00016444 and moved to Elkhart Lake because of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00063-00016445-00016583 current political climate in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00064-00016584-00016841 he felt strongly that coming out of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00065-00016842-00017044 retirement and serving the 27th District +B8wKm-l6v9U-00066-00017045-00017291 was his calling +B8wKm-l6v9U-00067-00017292-00017585 so with that we will get started and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00068-00017586-00017747 first we'd like to talk a little bit +B8wKm-l6v9U-00069-00017748-00018094 about the State Surplus so Amy if I can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00070-00018095-00018353 start with you given the record balance +B8wKm-l6v9U-00071-00018354-00018575 of the State Surplus how would you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00072-00018576-00018779 suggest we manage these funds going +B8wKm-l6v9U-00073-00018780-00019150 forward and why so again a surplus is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00074-00019151-00019369 definitely the better of the two options +B8wKm-l6v9U-00075-00019370-00019625 clearly we don't want to be taking more +B8wKm-l6v9U-00076-00019626-00019780 money than we have to be from our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00077-00019781-00020050 taxpayers in the same breath we do not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00078-00020051-00020267 want to be at a deficit and and by state +B8wKm-l6v9U-00079-00020268-00020572 law we can't be so I think our current +B8wKm-l6v9U-00080-00020573-00020771 legislature has done a good job of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00081-00020772-00020969 maintaining and making sure that we are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00082-00020970-00021221 accounted for in what we need but with +B8wKm-l6v9U-00083-00021222-00021400 that Surplus I do think there are ways +B8wKm-l6v9U-00084-00021401-00021658 we could better use that and again based +B8wKm-l6v9U-00085-00021659-00021808 on the fact I'm not there I'm not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00086-00021809-00021949 necessarily +B8wKm-l6v9U-00087-00021950-00022150 understanding all of the needs that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00088-00022151-00022325 there might be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00089-00022326-00022493 um and and I definitely want to take a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00090-00022494-00022739 look at more of those clearly schools +B8wKm-l6v9U-00091-00022740-00022907 are going to be asking for money is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00092-00022908-00023105 there an option to do something there I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00093-00023106-00023267 would say that is a good option but +B8wKm-l6v9U-00094-00023268-00023428 rather than just take the money and give +B8wKm-l6v9U-00095-00023429-00023578 it to them I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00096-00023579-00023717 um you know we kind of have to look what +B8wKm-l6v9U-00097-00023718-00023957 is it used for if we're going to do that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00098-00023958-00024167 and that would be in any case obviously +B8wKm-l6v9U-00099-00024168-00024305 there's going to be road projects around +B8wKm-l6v9U-00100-00024306-00024461 the state that are still in need of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00101-00024462-00024725 being taken care of so those things too +B8wKm-l6v9U-00102-00024726-00024958 when you talk about that you have to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00103-00024959-00025199 look at the Surplus I know there is some +B8wKm-l6v9U-00104-00025200-00025336 talk to we just give it back to the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00105-00025337-00025499 taxpayers I think that comes out to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00106-00025500-00025733 about 150 dollars which is significant +B8wKm-l6v9U-00107-00025733-00025949 but I think most people would probably +B8wKm-l6v9U-00108-00025950-00026117 say if that money is going to go to good +B8wKm-l6v9U-00109-00026118-00026320 use and really balance out for the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00110-00026322-00026537 taxpayers let's keep it there and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00111-00026538-00026731 actually use it for a very good cause +B8wKm-l6v9U-00112-00026732-00026974 exactly what other causes there might be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00113-00026975-00027202 I'm not necessarily privy to all of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00114-00027204-00027329 those but I definitely am more than +B8wKm-l6v9U-00115-00027330-00027551 willing to listen and try and navigate +B8wKm-l6v9U-00116-00027552-00027724 through that and find the best ways to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00117-00027725-00028090 use that Surplus going forward thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00118-00028091-00028499 Chet given the record balance of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00119-00028500-00028751 State Surplus how would you suggest that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00120-00028752-00028961 we manage these funds going forward and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00121-00028962-00029261 why yeah like Amy I think it's a good +B8wKm-l6v9U-00122-00029262-00029501 problem to have it certainly beats the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00123-00029502-00029867 alternative and I look at it at it as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00124-00029868-00030095 one-time money that's available for us +B8wKm-l6v9U-00125-00030095-00030335 to use to strengthen this Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00126-00030336-00030514 economy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00127-00030516-00030790 um I I would I would suggest a couple of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00128-00030791-00030946 priorities that I would have starting +B8wKm-l6v9U-00129-00030947-00031085 with the elimination of the personal +B8wKm-l6v9U-00130-00031086-00031337 property tax state of Wisconsin has +B8wKm-l6v9U-00131-00031338-00031552 talked about that for a long period of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00132-00031554-00031912 time it's a it's a Troublesome tax it's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00133-00031913-00032074 tough to pay I was in business for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00134-00032075-00032458 myself I understand the the um all the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00135-00032460-00032633 hassles of trying to keep track of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00136-00032633-00032902 personal property and it's a lot of time +B8wKm-l6v9U-00137-00032903-00033112 that your accountants accountants spend +B8wKm-l6v9U-00138-00033113-00033323 quite frankly that aren't really of much +B8wKm-l6v9U-00139-00033324-00033568 value or add anything to the business so +B8wKm-l6v9U-00140-00033569-00033727 I would start with that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00141-00033728-00033983 I have talked to a lot of the people in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00142-00033984-00034211 the 27th Assembly districts who live in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00143-00034212-00034529 rural parts of the district and they +B8wKm-l6v9U-00144-00034530-00034715 don't have Broadband or what Broadband +B8wKm-l6v9U-00145-00034716-00035111 they have is is is not very good I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00146-00035112-00035333 this is an opportunity for us to bring +B8wKm-l6v9U-00147-00035334-00035596 Broadband to rural parts of Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00148-00035597-00035771 and I think it's part of what the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00149-00035772-00035933 legislature and the governor ought to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00150-00035934-00036311 looking at in January beyond that I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00151-00036312-00036689 would say that students parents teachers +B8wKm-l6v9U-00152-00036690-00036965 over these last couple of years have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00153-00036966-00037074 just +B8wKm-l6v9U-00154-00037075-00037349 been behind the eight ball quite frankly +B8wKm-l6v9U-00155-00037350-00037589 and it's been a difficult time for them +B8wKm-l6v9U-00156-00037590-00037871 with the pandemic I think it's time for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00157-00037872-00038167 us to try to catch up and and help our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00158-00038168-00038495 our kids in schools not only our K-12 +B8wKm-l6v9U-00159-00038496-00038765 schools but also for our technical +B8wKm-l6v9U-00160-00038766-00038945 colleges and our colleges and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00161-00038946-00039209 universities I think we have roads that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00162-00039210-00039509 need to be addressed I need we think we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00163-00039510-00039809 have bridges that could be built I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00164-00039810-00040024 also talked to a number of our nursing +B8wKm-l6v9U-00165-00040025-00040174 home Administration leaders and Hospital +B8wKm-l6v9U-00166-00040175-00040474 administrators and you know they're just +B8wKm-l6v9U-00167-00040475-00040643 simply aren't being compensated for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00168-00040644-00040799 their Medicare and Medicaid patients +B8wKm-l6v9U-00169-00040800-00041002 that they're serving and I think the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00170-00041003-00041152 state ought to take a look at them +B8wKm-l6v9U-00171-00041153-00041465 trying to make those people hope +B8wKm-l6v9U-00172-00041466-00041639 thank you Chad +B8wKm-l6v9U-00173-00041640-00041867 so we'll transition to something that is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00174-00041868-00041962 really +B8wKm-l6v9U-00175-00041963-00042311 important to our business community and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00176-00042312-00042455 Chet will start with you on this +B8wKm-l6v9U-00177-00042456-00042712 question the lack of available Workforce +B8wKm-l6v9U-00178-00042713-00042923 has plagued our communities for many +B8wKm-l6v9U-00179-00042924-00043211 years how would you propose we work to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00180-00043212-00043379 solve this issue going going forward +B8wKm-l6v9U-00181-00043380-00043565 would you suggest we do anything +B8wKm-l6v9U-00182-00043566-00043793 different and if so what does that look +B8wKm-l6v9U-00183-00043794-00044057 like well I have spoken to a lot of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00184-00044058-00044362 businesses in the 27th district and it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00185-00044363-00044579 seems they all agree that the biggest +B8wKm-l6v9U-00186-00044580-00044824 problem they are finding is trying to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00187-00044825-00045005 trying to find people to work at their +B8wKm-l6v9U-00188-00045006-00045227 businesses at their at their factories +B8wKm-l6v9U-00189-00045228-00045539 and we need to find a way to you know +B8wKm-l6v9U-00190-00045540-00045730 get people here into Sheboygan County +B8wKm-l6v9U-00191-00045731-00046024 and to to be employed and quite frankly +B8wKm-l6v9U-00192-00046025-00046240 from what I understand I was I was a bit +B8wKm-l6v9U-00193-00046241-00046415 surprised but +B8wKm-l6v9U-00194-00046416-00046595 um from what I understand part of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00195-00046596-00046739 problem is we don't have affordable +B8wKm-l6v9U-00196-00046740-00046990 housing that's available for the people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00197-00046991-00047243 who want to work and so I think we need +B8wKm-l6v9U-00198-00047244-00047417 to take a look at what do we do to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00199-00047418-00047680 provide affordable housing for people so +B8wKm-l6v9U-00200-00047681-00047861 that we can attract workers to Sheboygan +B8wKm-l6v9U-00201-00047862-00047945 County +B8wKm-l6v9U-00202-00047946-00048280 um I think that there ought to be a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00203-00048281-00048433 partnership between +B8wKm-l6v9U-00204-00048434-00048785 Sheboygan County between the Sheboygan +B8wKm-l6v9U-00205-00048786-00049085 County Chamber of Commerce and the state +B8wKm-l6v9U-00206-00049086-00049343 of Wisconsin whereby we look at ways +B8wKm-l6v9U-00207-00049344-00049583 that we can provide the means and the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00208-00049584-00049829 wherewithal to provide that housing so I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00209-00049830-00050008 really think the the important thing is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00210-00050009-00050218 to Let's partner with each other and see +B8wKm-l6v9U-00211-00050219-00050393 if we can't sit down and find Common +B8wKm-l6v9U-00212-00050394-00050602 Sense solutions to the problem that we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00213-00050603-00050717 face +B8wKm-l6v9U-00214-00050718-00051124 thank you Amy the again the lack of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00215-00051125-00051275 available workforces plagued our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00216-00051276-00051502 communities for many years how would you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00217-00051503-00051701 propose we work to solve this issue +B8wKm-l6v9U-00218-00051702-00051952 going forward and would you suggest that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00219-00051953-00052169 we do anything differently if so what +B8wKm-l6v9U-00220-00052170-00052361 would that look like +B8wKm-l6v9U-00221-00052362-00052654 um we'll kind of piggybacking on what he +B8wKm-l6v9U-00222-00052655-00052775 said +B8wKm-l6v9U-00223-00052776-00053015 um we do know and me being in a business +B8wKm-l6v9U-00224-00053016-00053219 setting I truly understand what it's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00225-00053220-00053494 like to get help it has been a struggle +B8wKm-l6v9U-00226-00053495-00053776 for years we have some awesome employees +B8wKm-l6v9U-00227-00053777-00053932 that I work with and I think you will +B8wKm-l6v9U-00228-00053933-00054082 find that at many of our local +B8wKm-l6v9U-00229-00054083-00054329 businesses they have a Mainstay which is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00230-00054329-00054479 great and it says a lot about our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00231-00054479-00054694 community people and their strength in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00232-00054695-00054941 their work I think where we are maybe +B8wKm-l6v9U-00233-00054941-00055211 need a couple changes is helping our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00234-00055212-00055391 high school students understand the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00235-00055391-00055630 transition if they are not college-bound +B8wKm-l6v9U-00236-00055632-00055894 which is totally acceptable and fine if +B8wKm-l6v9U-00237-00055895-00056116 they're not trying to get them more +B8wKm-l6v9U-00238-00056117-00056338 ready for the workforce I did talk to a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00239-00056339-00056644 young lady recently and she said to me +B8wKm-l6v9U-00240-00056645-00056849 um she is about 20 years old she made +B8wKm-l6v9U-00241-00056850-00057004 the comment it's really hard for me to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00242-00057005-00057161 understand going to work and working +B8wKm-l6v9U-00243-00057162-00057304 from nine o'clock in the morning till +B8wKm-l6v9U-00244-00057305-00057473 five o'clock at night my whole day is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00245-00057474-00057592 shot +B8wKm-l6v9U-00246-00057594-00057779 you know I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00247-00057779-00057911 I think kind of chuckle at that but I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00248-00057912-00058115 get where she's coming from She's maybe +B8wKm-l6v9U-00249-00058116-00058325 gone to virtual school she's had a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00250-00058326-00058499 little bit more time they use their +B8wKm-l6v9U-00251-00058500-00058679 schedules a little bit more to their +B8wKm-l6v9U-00252-00058679-00058966 wants and all of a sudden they get to a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00253-00058967-00059116 job and they go what do you mean I can't +B8wKm-l6v9U-00254-00059117-00059279 take off four hours of the day for my +B8wKm-l6v9U-00255-00059279-00059542 lunch and and a little fun time so I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00256-00059544-00059692 think it's important that we we try and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00257-00059694-00059854 make that transition in our high schools +B8wKm-l6v9U-00258-00059855-00060053 already and get our students ready as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00259-00060054-00060311 far as the affordable housing I too have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00260-00060312-00060479 spoken to the mayor about that and I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00261-00060479-00060671 understand that we have we have great +B8wKm-l6v9U-00262-00060672-00060994 businesses in the 27th huge huge +B8wKm-l6v9U-00263-00060995-00061169 businesses to work with that can bring +B8wKm-l6v9U-00264-00061170-00061450 great jobs here and keep great jobs here +B8wKm-l6v9U-00265-00061451-00061769 but the affordable housing what is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00266-00061770-00061925 Affordable +B8wKm-l6v9U-00267-00061926-00062050 um that's another thing I'm hearing from +B8wKm-l6v9U-00268-00062051-00062416 a lot of people are we trying to make it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00269-00062417-00062579 affordable for somebody making a hundred +B8wKm-l6v9U-00270-00062579-00062711 thousand dollars a year or what about +B8wKm-l6v9U-00271-00062712-00062866 the people that are only making fifty +B8wKm-l6v9U-00272-00062867-00063088 thousand dollars a year what exactly I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00273-00063089-00063197 think we're getting lost in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00274-00063198-00063371 terminology of affordable housing so I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00275-00063372-00063509 think that needs to be looked at a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00276-00063510-00063730 little bit farther and make sure we are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00277-00063732-00063899 accommodating for that but not just for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00278-00063900-00064175 one segment but for different +B8wKm-l6v9U-00279-00064176-00064444 um income levels because I think we're +B8wKm-l6v9U-00280-00064445-00064769 missing some of that as well thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00281-00064770-00065038 and as a quick follow-up I'm Amy I will +B8wKm-l6v9U-00282-00065039-00065225 start with you what do you think the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00283-00065226-00065411 state of Wisconsin can do to encourage +B8wKm-l6v9U-00284-00065412-00065753 our businesses to stay in Wisconsin and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00285-00065754-00066076 with our many homegrown businesses to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00286-00066077-00066365 continue to expand in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00287-00066366-00066629 um I think part of it Chuck has already +B8wKm-l6v9U-00288-00066630-00067043 brought up the personal property tax I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00289-00067044-00067211 think that does hit a lot of our smaller +B8wKm-l6v9U-00290-00067212-00067481 businesses as well and and I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00291-00067482-00067619 there's a lot of people in the community +B8wKm-l6v9U-00292-00067620-00067793 that don't understand that particular +B8wKm-l6v9U-00293-00067794-00068099 tax and I think it needs to be addressed +B8wKm-l6v9U-00294-00068100-00068344 a little bit further and not so hidden +B8wKm-l6v9U-00295-00068345-00068585 from the public as far as what that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00296-00068586-00068806 means again it's a tax that is going to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00297-00068807-00069167 get passed along to Consumers and you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00298-00069168-00069419 know it's an unfortunate thing but it's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00299-00069420-00069832 the reality so in looking at that as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00300-00069833-00070085 well as I think if we give +B8wKm-l6v9U-00301-00070086-00070421 I know talking to the UW system local +B8wKm-l6v9U-00302-00070422-00070744 people there A lot of them are saying we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00303-00070745-00070991 want to get these kids educated and keep +B8wKm-l6v9U-00304-00070992-00071309 them here but we know that kids long to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00305-00071310-00071549 see something new but a lot of them do +B8wKm-l6v9U-00306-00071550-00071765 come back after five years or so but how +B8wKm-l6v9U-00307-00071766-00071921 do we get them to stay in those five +B8wKm-l6v9U-00308-00071922-00072113 years I don't necessarily have the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00309-00072114-00072244 answer I think there is some research +B8wKm-l6v9U-00310-00072245-00072491 that needs to be done there again with +B8wKm-l6v9U-00311-00072492-00072647 the local high schools with the local +B8wKm-l6v9U-00312-00072648-00072929 colleges to say how do we retain these +B8wKm-l6v9U-00313-00072930-00073156 these people to want to work here but we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00314-00073157-00073361 still have to provide a positive work +B8wKm-l6v9U-00315-00073362-00073613 environment for them and make sure that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00316-00073614-00073805 they understand their value to their +B8wKm-l6v9U-00317-00073806-00073973 companies I think sometimes people feel +B8wKm-l6v9U-00318-00073974-00074176 misvalued and then they look somewhere +B8wKm-l6v9U-00319-00074177-00074447 else for that so hopefully you know we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00320-00074448-00074656 can keep good businesses growing and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00321-00074657-00074843 keep our people here if we cover all the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00322-00074844-00075053 bases that are needed +B8wKm-l6v9U-00323-00075054-00075394 thank you Chet what do you believe the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00324-00075395-00075593 state of Wisconsin can do to encourage +B8wKm-l6v9U-00325-00075594-00075905 our businesses to stay or to stay in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00326-00075906-00076121 Wisconsin and of course expand in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00327-00076122-00076312 Wisconsin well I already mentioned the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00328-00076313-00076475 personal property tax I think that would +B8wKm-l6v9U-00329-00076476-00076715 be a huge boost to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00330-00076716-00076967 um businesses in this community in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00331-00076968-00077117 state quite frankly it will make +B8wKm-l6v9U-00332-00077118-00077350 businesses more competitive and I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00333-00077351-00077603 that would be a good thing secondly I'd +B8wKm-l6v9U-00334-00077604-00078029 also or reiterate my my thoughts on on +B8wKm-l6v9U-00335-00078030-00078161 broadband +B8wKm-l6v9U-00336-00078162-00078388 um I um during the course of this +B8wKm-l6v9U-00337-00078389-00078725 campaign I have been talking to all of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00338-00078726-00078929 the I visited with all the town boards +B8wKm-l6v9U-00339-00078930-00079312 City or Village boards City councils and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00340-00079313-00079493 in particular when I've been visiting +B8wKm-l6v9U-00341-00079494-00079691 with the town boards I've noticed that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00342-00079692-00079919 Broadband is brought up time and time +B8wKm-l6v9U-00343-00079920-00080188 again I remember going out to the town +B8wKm-l6v9U-00344-00080189-00080471 of Hermann board meeting and people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00345-00080472-00080747 appeared and and testified there was a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00346-00080748-00080938 business person who says how can I run a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00347-00080939-00081161 business in this day and age without +B8wKm-l6v9U-00348-00081162-00081325 Broadband +B8wKm-l6v9U-00349-00081326-00081499 availability +B8wKm-l6v9U-00350-00081500-00081779 I was out there in there was another +B8wKm-l6v9U-00351-00081780-00082000 lady that was talking about Broadband to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00352-00082001-00082223 the Hermantown board and she was saying +B8wKm-l6v9U-00353-00082224-00082450 you know my my husband and I were trying +B8wKm-l6v9U-00354-00082451-00082679 to sell our property we were unable to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00355-00082680-00082888 sell our property because the people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00356-00082889-00083044 that were purchasing it found out that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00357-00083045-00083344 we didn't have any Broadband access so I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00358-00083345-00083471 think Broadband is something that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00359-00083472-00083687 extremely important back in the 1930s +B8wKm-l6v9U-00360-00083688-00083944 this country made a concerted effort +B8wKm-l6v9U-00361-00083945-00084281 quite frankly to bring electricity to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00362-00084282-00084544 rural parts of our of our country I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00363-00084545-00084671 think we need to do the same thing +B8wKm-l6v9U-00364-00084672-00084893 relative to broadband that we did back +B8wKm-l6v9U-00365-00084894-00085126 in the 1930s and bringing electricity to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00366-00085127-00085409 the people beyond that I think schools +B8wKm-l6v9U-00367-00085410-00085649 remains something that's extremely +B8wKm-l6v9U-00368-00085650-00085876 important all of our schools in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00369-00085877-00086093 particular I think are I visited +B8wKm-l6v9U-00370-00086094-00086267 yesterday at Lakeshore Technical College +B8wKm-l6v9U-00371-00086268-00086597 with the president of Lakeshore and you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00372-00086598-00086831 know we need to support our technical +B8wKm-l6v9U-00373-00086832-00087155 schools and you know get the you get +B8wKm-l6v9U-00374-00087156-00087347 trained the the you know the the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00375-00087348-00087623 workforce of the future +B8wKm-l6v9U-00376-00087624-00087929 thank you we are going to shift gears um +B8wKm-l6v9U-00377-00087930-00088241 a little bit or a lot uh for something +B8wKm-l6v9U-00378-00088242-00088450 that has certainly been +B8wKm-l6v9U-00379-00088451-00088649 um you know very important to a lot of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00380-00088650-00088973 folks across the country so Amy I will +B8wKm-l6v9U-00381-00088974-00089197 reject this question towards you first +B8wKm-l6v9U-00382-00089198-00089494 in light of the Dobbs decision and the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00383-00089495-00089693 effect of potential changes in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00384-00089694-00090017 related to abortion access what would +B8wKm-l6v9U-00385-00090018-00090238 you advocate for as a suitable path +B8wKm-l6v9U-00386-00090239-00090550 going forward for Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00387-00090551-00090694 um looking at that decision I know that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00388-00090695-00090935 some feel the Supreme Court got it wrong +B8wKm-l6v9U-00389-00090936-00091144 I'm going to tell you I think the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00390-00091145-00091318 Supreme Court got it right +B8wKm-l6v9U-00391-00091319-00091582 I am a big proponent of the fact that I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00392-00091583-00091744 believe this is a state +B8wKm-l6v9U-00393-00091745-00091973 government issue it should come back to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00394-00091974-00092303 the locals I am a big fan of smaller +B8wKm-l6v9U-00395-00092304-00092543 local governments making decisions not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00396-00092544-00092699 necessarily an overhaul in the federal +B8wKm-l6v9U-00397-00092700-00093011 government so for that reason I am happy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00398-00093012-00093221 that it has come back to the state +B8wKm-l6v9U-00399-00093222-00093412 what I would love to see is it go back +B8wKm-l6v9U-00400-00093413-00093767 to the actual people of the state if we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00401-00093768-00094037 could do an actual referendum that would +B8wKm-l6v9U-00402-00094038-00094276 give that idea back to the people to say +B8wKm-l6v9U-00403-00094277-00094487 how are we going to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00404-00094488-00094768 where do you stand I can sit up here all +B8wKm-l6v9U-00405-00094769-00094906 day long and tell you I believe the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00406-00094907-00095068 majority of this I believe the majority +B8wKm-l6v9U-00407-00095069-00095159 that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00408-00095160-00095326 but where do the people really stand +B8wKm-l6v9U-00409-00095327-00095518 could we put something out there that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00410-00095519-00095776 would say is it conception do you feel +B8wKm-l6v9U-00411-00095777-00095993 that abortion up to six weeks when there +B8wKm-l6v9U-00412-00095994-00096305 is known scientific heartbeat and brain +B8wKm-l6v9U-00413-00096306-00096526 activity but after that point I can't is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00414-00096527-00096809 it first trimester is it to the point of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00415-00096810-00097049 of birth where do the people really +B8wKm-l6v9U-00416-00097050-00097217 stand I think we'd be interested to find +B8wKm-l6v9U-00417-00097218-00097391 that out +B8wKm-l6v9U-00418-00097392-00097594 um I'm not afraid to say that I'm a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00419-00097595-00097756 Christian woman +B8wKm-l6v9U-00420-00097757-00097949 um but I am still a woman as well and a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00421-00097950-00098182 mother and I would love nothing more +B8wKm-l6v9U-00422-00098183-00098368 than to see every child be happy and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00423-00098369-00098632 healthy and born but I also do not feel +B8wKm-l6v9U-00424-00098633-00098873 that it is up to me as a legislator to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00425-00098874-00099118 legislate birth control I do not feel it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00426-00099119-00099365 is up to me as a legislature to take the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00427-00099366-00099538 rights away from somebody who has been +B8wKm-l6v9U-00428-00099539-00099911 raped or who has had incest they do need +B8wKm-l6v9U-00429-00099912-00100121 to discuss those things immediately with +B8wKm-l6v9U-00430-00100122-00100271 Health Care Professionals and get done +B8wKm-l6v9U-00431-00100272-00100468 what they need to get done I do believe +B8wKm-l6v9U-00432-00100469-00100679 I may have been misquoted on my my +B8wKm-l6v9U-00433-00100680-00101026 thoughts on this by others but I am +B8wKm-l6v9U-00434-00101027-00101212 standing this has been my stand the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00435-00101213-00101476 entire time so I have not changed it at +B8wKm-l6v9U-00436-00101477-00101693 any point and I will continue to fight +B8wKm-l6v9U-00437-00101694-00101855 for the rights of the women as well as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00438-00101856-00102041 unborn child when there's a tubal +B8wKm-l6v9U-00439-00102042-00102197 pregnancy it needs to be taken care of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00440-00102198-00102365 the health of the mother does come first +B8wKm-l6v9U-00441-00102366-00102749 but I am not a fan of after there is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00442-00102750-00102947 brain and heart activity taking away +B8wKm-l6v9U-00443-00102948-00103054 that life +B8wKm-l6v9U-00444-00103055-00103223 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00445-00103224-00103528 chat in light of the dob's decision and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00446-00103529-00103697 the effect of potential changes in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00447-00103698-00103873 Wisconsin related to abortion access +B8wKm-l6v9U-00448-00103874-00104147 what would you advocate for as a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00449-00104148-00104290 suitable path going forward for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00450-00104291-00104554 Wisconsin well let me start by saying I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00451-00104555-00104753 disagree with Amy on this I think that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00452-00104754-00104958 the Supreme Court got it wrong +B8wKm-l6v9U-00453-00104959-00105275 under the ruling of the Supreme Court +B8wKm-l6v9U-00454-00105276-00105397 now +B8wKm-l6v9U-00455-00105398-00105707 Wisconsin pregnant Wisconsin women are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00456-00105708-00105910 asked to live under a law that was +B8wKm-l6v9U-00457-00105911-00106145 passed by the state legislature back in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00458-00106146-00106331 1849 +B8wKm-l6v9U-00459-00106332-00106649 and that law denies them access to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00460-00106650-00106889 needed Health Care here in the state of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00461-00106890-00106997 Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00462-00106998-00107165 so if you're pregnant and you get and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00463-00107166-00107369 you need Health Care in Wisconsin you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00464-00107370-00107584 know go to Illinois go to uh go to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00465-00107585-00107849 Minnesota that's what you're left with +B8wKm-l6v9U-00466-00107850-00108004 and for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00467-00108005-00108323 um women who are a victim of rape and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00468-00108324-00108616 incest in the state they can't get an +B8wKm-l6v9U-00469-00108617-00108731 abortion here in the state of Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00470-00108732-00108893 they have to travel somewhere air +B8wKm-l6v9U-00471-00108894-00109054 somewhere else +B8wKm-l6v9U-00472-00109055-00109278 I think that that's wrong +B8wKm-l6v9U-00473-00109279-00109828 beyond that the Republicans back in uh +B8wKm-l6v9U-00474-00109829-00110134 in in the state legislature uh back in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00475-00110135-00110428 June had an opportunity to address this +B8wKm-l6v9U-00476-00110429-00110519 issue +B8wKm-l6v9U-00477-00110520-00110725 they chose not to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00478-00110726-00111089 I think that that was wrong and beyond +B8wKm-l6v9U-00479-00111090-00111340 that I would say to the the people who +B8wKm-l6v9U-00480-00111341-00111545 are the business people who are here +B8wKm-l6v9U-00481-00111546-00111928 today uh how do you expect to attract +B8wKm-l6v9U-00482-00111929-00112277 um Young Smart women to Sheboygan County +B8wKm-l6v9U-00483-00112278-00112504 to work in your businesses +B8wKm-l6v9U-00484-00112505-00112804 under the law under the 1849 law that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00485-00112805-00113123 exists here in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00486-00113124-00113302 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00487-00113303-00113657 and as a follow-up to that Chet can you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00488-00113658-00113843 tell us where do you stand on making +B8wKm-l6v9U-00489-00113844-00114149 available birth control to Aid in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00490-00114150-00114378 prevention of unwanted pregnancies +B8wKm-l6v9U-00491-00114379-00114665 I think what I'd like to do is do uh in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00492-00114666-00114839 answering that question is to share a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00493-00114840-00115228 story about a woman who I spoke to very +B8wKm-l6v9U-00494-00115229-00115486 early in the campaign +B8wKm-l6v9U-00495-00115488-00115702 um and she said to me and she brought up +B8wKm-l6v9U-00496-00115703-00115865 the abortion issue I didn't bring it up +B8wKm-l6v9U-00497-00115866-00116152 and she said to me um you know Mr +B8wKm-l6v9U-00498-00116153-00116543 Gerlach I've had fertility issues in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00499-00116544-00116795 past and there is nothing more important +B8wKm-l6v9U-00500-00116796-00116983 to me than +B8wKm-l6v9U-00501-00116983-00117257 being able to give birth to a baby +B8wKm-l6v9U-00502-00117258-00117581 but I want you to know that if my +B8wKm-l6v9U-00503-00117582-00117839 daughter is raped and she pointed her +B8wKm-l6v9U-00504-00117840-00118084 finger at me she said I don't want the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00505-00118085-00118319 state of Wisconsin to tell her she can't +B8wKm-l6v9U-00506-00118320-00118601 have an abortion and beyond that we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00507-00118602-00118799 ought to be doing a better job of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00508-00118800-00118990 teaching our young people and making +B8wKm-l6v9U-00509-00118991-00119260 available to them birth control so we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00510-00119261-00119507 don't get into a position where we have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00511-00119508-00119740 all these unwanted pregnancies and we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00512-00119741-00120010 need to have all of these abortions and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00513-00120011-00120239 I guess I would say that I think we need +B8wKm-l6v9U-00514-00120240-00120484 to make birth control as readily +B8wKm-l6v9U-00515-00120485-00120677 available information is readily +B8wKm-l6v9U-00516-00120678-00120893 available to our our young people as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00517-00120894-00121181 possible we have to you know encourage +B8wKm-l6v9U-00518-00121182-00121523 and and prevent us any as many unwinded +B8wKm-l6v9U-00519-00121524-00121786 pregnancies as we can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00520-00121788-00122063 Amy can you share with us where you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00521-00122064-00122254 stand on making available birth control +B8wKm-l6v9U-00522-00122255-00122477 to Aid in the prevention of unwanted +B8wKm-l6v9U-00523-00122478-00122723 pregnancies again I am fully for birth +B8wKm-l6v9U-00524-00122724-00122902 control I've always said if we can get +B8wKm-l6v9U-00525-00122903-00123040 everything to the front side that would +B8wKm-l6v9U-00526-00123041-00123328 just make life a whole lot easier I have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00527-00123329-00123527 no desire to take that away it was not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00528-00123528-00123808 taken away from me I use birth control I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00529-00123809-00123958 have two beautiful children that were +B8wKm-l6v9U-00530-00123959-00124289 planned when my husband and I so choose +B8wKm-l6v9U-00531-00124290-00124528 um I I again The Unwanted pregnancies +B8wKm-l6v9U-00532-00124529-00124793 and the idea of rape and incest I'm not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00533-00124794-00124960 here to stand in the way of a medical +B8wKm-l6v9U-00534-00124961-00125171 decision to be based on that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00535-00125172-00125434 so I know that's going to cost me some +B8wKm-l6v9U-00536-00125435-00125686 of the voters and I need to be honest +B8wKm-l6v9U-00537-00125688-00125927 about it am I going to encourage it to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00538-00125928-00126131 happen no I think there's a lot of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00539-00126132-00126281 counseling that needs to go into those +B8wKm-l6v9U-00540-00126282-00126490 particular situations it's not going to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00541-00126491-00126640 take away the horror to take away the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00542-00126641-00126863 child but if that is what the mother +B8wKm-l6v9U-00543-00126864-00127025 feels that should be her decision to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00544-00127026-00127271 make at that particular moment as far as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00545-00127272-00127427 Plan B goes that's where I would say +B8wKm-l6v9U-00546-00127428-00127678 Plan B comes into play very quickly in a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00547-00127679-00127810 situation where there has been rape or +B8wKm-l6v9U-00548-00127811-00128063 incest do I believe probably be should +B8wKm-l6v9U-00549-00128064-00128290 be available more readily to people if +B8wKm-l6v9U-00550-00128291-00128525 they so choose that's up to them should +B8wKm-l6v9U-00551-00128526-00128723 birth controls be available through +B8wKm-l6v9U-00552-00128724-00128939 doctors and I know they are that's where +B8wKm-l6v9U-00553-00128940-00129101 I've gotten mine over the years you can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00554-00129102-00129352 buy condoms at the local store there's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00555-00129353-00129631 many ways to get those birth controls +B8wKm-l6v9U-00556-00129632-00129833 yeah we should definitely make that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00557-00129833-00130114 known to our young adults but I also as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00558-00130115-00130283 a mother and a Christian I'm going to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00559-00130283-00130463 say what's wrong with telling them that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00560-00130464-00130697 it's okay to wait it's okay to make sure +B8wKm-l6v9U-00561-00130698-00130901 that you really love someone and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00562-00130902-00131104 encourage a less promiscuous lifestyle +B8wKm-l6v9U-00563-00131105-00131411 but I I am a realist and in that reality +B8wKm-l6v9U-00564-00131412-00131621 I will also say that we have to work +B8wKm-l6v9U-00565-00131622-00131885 with things that are before us and again +B8wKm-l6v9U-00566-00131886-00132059 I don't ever want to see an unwanted +B8wKm-l6v9U-00567-00132060-00132157 baby +B8wKm-l6v9U-00568-00132158-00132401 and all we can do is stand I think we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00569-00132402-00132527 have a lot of other things to talk about +B8wKm-l6v9U-00570-00132528-00132743 when it comes to adoption as well as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00571-00132744-00132952 foster care and making better laws on +B8wKm-l6v9U-00572-00132953-00133109 that to go along with this entire +B8wKm-l6v9U-00573-00133110-00133259 subject it's a lot more than just +B8wKm-l6v9U-00574-00133260-00133583 abortion for me too thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00575-00133584-00133739 thank you Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-00576-00133740-00134123 so we will shift gears again and talk +B8wKm-l6v9U-00577-00134124-00134423 about some climate change issues and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00578-00134424-00134543 some +B8wKm-l6v9U-00579-00134544-00134728 some interviews that you that both of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00580-00134729-00134902 you have had with the Sheboygan Press in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00581-00134903-00135166 the past so Chet I will start with you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00582-00135167-00135359 in your interview with the Sheboygan +B8wKm-l6v9U-00583-00135360-00135749 Press you said quote climate change is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00584-00135750-00135923 real and needs to be addressed in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00585-00135924-00136223 Wisconsin unquote so what do you believe +B8wKm-l6v9U-00586-00136224-00136552 we can do here in our state specifically +B8wKm-l6v9U-00587-00136553-00136859 well I do think climate change is real +B8wKm-l6v9U-00588-00136860-00137249 and I think it does need to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00589-00137250-00137435 watching the TV and watching the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00590-00137436-00137728 hurricane that hit Florida over the uh +B8wKm-l6v9U-00591-00137729-00138004 the last couple or a couple weeks ago I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00592-00138005-00138209 mean you feel for all those people who +B8wKm-l6v9U-00593-00138210-00138485 lost their houses but quite frankly at +B8wKm-l6v9U-00594-00138486-00138689 some point I think the taxpayers of this +B8wKm-l6v9U-00595-00138690-00138935 country have to start saying why are we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00596-00138936-00139157 always paying for people to live on the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00597-00139158-00139475 on the coastline of Florida +B8wKm-l6v9U-00598-00139476-00139663 um you know we we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00599-00139664-00140123 can't continue to do this and um I I do +B8wKm-l6v9U-00600-00140124-00140302 like to think of myself quite frankly as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00601-00140303-00140614 a green as a green person uh and I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00602-00140615-00140869 of myself as this kind of a green person +B8wKm-l6v9U-00603-00140870-00141227 you know I like to save money and right +B8wKm-l6v9U-00604-00141228-00141431 now in the state of Wisconsin we don't +B8wKm-l6v9U-00605-00141432-00141695 produce any oil we don't produce any +B8wKm-l6v9U-00606-00141696-00141959 natural gas we keep on sending these +B8wKm-l6v9U-00607-00141960-00142169 guys out of the state of Wisconsin to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00608-00142170-00142385 other states to other countries when we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00609-00142386-00142511 could keep them in the state of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00610-00142512-00142690 Wisconsin growing the state of Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00611-00142691-00142997 and working for Wisconsin people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00612-00142998-00143245 um when I was in the state legislature +B8wKm-l6v9U-00613-00143246-00143549 a number of years ago I was the author +B8wKm-l6v9U-00614-00143550-00143819 of this first solar energy bill in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00615-00143820-00143987 state encouraging people to use solar +B8wKm-l6v9U-00616-00143988-00144173 energy and use it to to generate +B8wKm-l6v9U-00617-00144174-00144413 electricity and you know there are a lot +B8wKm-l6v9U-00618-00144414-00144673 of farmers quite frankly in the 27 +B8wKm-l6v9U-00619-00144674-00144893 Assembly District +B8wKm-l6v9U-00620-00144894-00145223 um who are growing corn right now and we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00621-00145224-00145645 are seeing solar panels being put up +B8wKm-l6v9U-00622-00145646-00146081 above those corn fields and providing +B8wKm-l6v9U-00623-00146082-00146395 additional revenue for our rural +B8wKm-l6v9U-00624-00146396-00146728 communities and beyond that I want to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00625-00146729-00147043 say to you that we have in this District +B8wKm-l6v9U-00626-00147044-00147377 the largest distributor of solar panels +B8wKm-l6v9U-00627-00147378-00147551 in the state of Wisconsin it's called +B8wKm-l6v9U-00628-00147552-00147797 Arch electric located right down the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00629-00147798-00148066 street in Plymouth Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00630-00148067-00148207 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00631-00148208-00148481 Amy you shared with the Sheboygan Press +B8wKm-l6v9U-00632-00148482-00148727 that at that time you were not well +B8wKm-l6v9U-00633-00148728-00148909 versed on the subject of climate change +B8wKm-l6v9U-00634-00148910-00149128 what have you done since the interview +B8wKm-l6v9U-00635-00149129-00149357 to become more Versed and what are your +B8wKm-l6v9U-00636-00149358-00149566 ideas to help Wisconsin cope with the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00637-00149567-00149783 effects of climate change +B8wKm-l6v9U-00638-00149784-00149993 so one of the changes is I have actually +B8wKm-l6v9U-00639-00149994-00150214 spoken with Arch electric directly I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00640-00150215-00150383 done a tour of their plant I've started +B8wKm-l6v9U-00641-00150384-00150563 to learn a little bit more of what they +B8wKm-l6v9U-00642-00150564-00150857 are all about and it is it is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00643-00150858-00151061 enlightening um great place to tour +B8wKm-l6v9U-00644-00151062-00151247 great people to work with they are a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00645-00151248-00151361 huge source +B8wKm-l6v9U-00646-00151362-00151631 uh actually last week Wednesday I was +B8wKm-l6v9U-00647-00151632-00151931 able to go to a local Farm +B8wKm-l6v9U-00648-00151932-00152314 and talk to a lender as well as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00649-00152315-00152585 a project manager as well some +B8wKm-l6v9U-00650-00152586-00152902 legislatures and that particular Farm is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00651-00152903-00153095 going to be putting in a community solar +B8wKm-l6v9U-00652-00153096-00153287 project and it was pretty cool we drove +B8wKm-l6v9U-00653-00153288-00153478 out to the field we talked about it one +B8wKm-l6v9U-00654-00153479-00153616 of the biggest things that people have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00655-00153617-00153899 and adversity to is we're giving up +B8wKm-l6v9U-00656-00153900-00154133 farmable land well this farmer went so +B8wKm-l6v9U-00657-00154134-00154289 far as to think of an area of his +B8wKm-l6v9U-00658-00154290-00154613 property that was eight Acres of trees +B8wKm-l6v9U-00659-00154614-00154954 and he would be taking that out and then +B8wKm-l6v9U-00660-00154955-00155225 the other roughly 18 to 20 acres it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00661-00155226-00155393 sounds like is grazing land because he +B8wKm-l6v9U-00662-00155394-00155681 grazes his cows and cattle there +B8wKm-l6v9U-00663-00155682-00155861 so he's not really giving up +B8wKm-l6v9U-00664-00155862-00156076 agricultural land and they're actually +B8wKm-l6v9U-00665-00156077-00156245 talking they may be able to again build +B8wKm-l6v9U-00666-00156246-00156461 those posts high enough where he can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00667-00156462-00156743 contribute the solar panel energy to the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00668-00156744-00156947 community while still using the land +B8wKm-l6v9U-00669-00156948-00157073 underneath it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00670-00157074-00157193 to Grace +B8wKm-l6v9U-00671-00157194-00157390 so to me this was a project that really +B8wKm-l6v9U-00672-00157391-00157589 enlightened me on how that could all +B8wKm-l6v9U-00673-00157590-00157721 work +B8wKm-l6v9U-00674-00157722-00157876 um I know there are some people that are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00675-00157877-00158033 a little bit more worried about the wind +B8wKm-l6v9U-00676-00158034-00158261 turbines in some of those areas I have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00677-00158262-00158428 worked with a couple people on that to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00678-00158429-00158590 find out where exactly are the blades +B8wKm-l6v9U-00679-00158591-00158711 going because I know that's a big +B8wKm-l6v9U-00680-00158712-00158921 concern of people I've gotten more +B8wKm-l6v9U-00681-00158922-00159125 information on that as far as how they +B8wKm-l6v9U-00682-00159126-00159437 are trying to basically shred them into +B8wKm-l6v9U-00683-00159438-00159604 a means in which they can maybe use them +B8wKm-l6v9U-00684-00159605-00159839 for like outdoor mats and carpets so +B8wKm-l6v9U-00685-00159840-00160001 rather than just burying them which +B8wKm-l6v9U-00686-00160002-00160163 didn't seem too green to me personally +B8wKm-l6v9U-00687-00160164-00160402 they are looking for other revenues I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00688-00160403-00160528 feel could have maybe been thought about +B8wKm-l6v9U-00689-00160529-00160799 about 18 years ago but at least we're in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00690-00160800-00160990 the realm of that as well so I do think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00691-00160991-00161195 we need to keep going with we can't put +B8wKm-l6v9U-00692-00161196-00161404 all our eggs in one basket so I too +B8wKm-l6v9U-00693-00161405-00161639 would like to see our money stay here +B8wKm-l6v9U-00694-00161640-00161861 but with that we need to make sure that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00695-00161862-00162052 we are maintaining there is no switch to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00696-00162053-00162257 flip and just flip over to solar but we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00697-00162258-00162466 can get there little by little +B8wKm-l6v9U-00698-00162467-00162719 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00699-00162720-00163013 transitioning into safety and gun +B8wKm-l6v9U-00700-00163014-00163114 control +B8wKm-l6v9U-00701-00163115-00163493 Amy I will ask you first so we're +B8wKm-l6v9U-00702-00163494-00163852 fortunate in that in our area violent +B8wKm-l6v9U-00703-00163853-00164063 crime has been on the decline +B8wKm-l6v9U-00704-00164064-00164278 nevertheless when we see all of those +B8wKm-l6v9U-00705-00164279-00164573 scary ads on TV we have to wonder is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00706-00164574-00164843 there really a problem and if so what +B8wKm-l6v9U-00707-00164844-00165047 can the legislature do to help keep our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00708-00165048-00165281 communities safe and secure +B8wKm-l6v9U-00709-00165282-00165473 very good question +B8wKm-l6v9U-00710-00165474-00165671 um I will honestly tell you I am a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00711-00165672-00165895 concealed gun carrier +B8wKm-l6v9U-00712-00165896-00166216 I have the license and I do believe it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00713-00166217-00166457 is my second Amendment right +B8wKm-l6v9U-00714-00166458-00166721 I do believe that right stands for all +B8wKm-l6v9U-00715-00166722-00167021 people we have many Hunters particularly +B8wKm-l6v9U-00716-00167022-00167297 in our area I am not out to take those +B8wKm-l6v9U-00717-00167298-00167537 rights away from anybody but as we've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00718-00167538-00167693 talked about I still don't want to see a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00719-00167694-00167873 single life lost or a child lost to gun +B8wKm-l6v9U-00720-00167874-00167981 violence +B8wKm-l6v9U-00721-00167982-00168166 one of the questions that I recently +B8wKm-l6v9U-00722-00168167-00168431 heard as I was um listening to an +B8wKm-l6v9U-00723-00168432-00168778 interview being done was how many +B8wKm-l6v9U-00724-00168779-00169066 crimes have been committed by +B8wKm-l6v9U-00725-00169067-00169354 licensed gun owners +B8wKm-l6v9U-00726-00169355-00169481 do you know the question couldn't be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00727-00169482-00169631 answered +B8wKm-l6v9U-00728-00169632-00169816 which is interesting because the state +B8wKm-l6v9U-00729-00169817-00170123 would have on record that I am +B8wKm-l6v9U-00730-00170124-00170440 so how can we not know exactly how many +B8wKm-l6v9U-00731-00170441-00170626 licensed gun owners are causing the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00732-00170627-00170728 crimes +B8wKm-l6v9U-00733-00170729-00170909 I think it's more we don't want people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00734-00170910-00171083 to know who's causing the crimes the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00735-00171084-00171221 bottom line is if they came and They +B8wKm-l6v9U-00736-00171222-00171431 confiscated every gun of a licensed gun +B8wKm-l6v9U-00737-00171432-00171604 owner today there would still be crime +B8wKm-l6v9U-00738-00171605-00171797 because those guns are coming in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00739-00171798-00172019 unfortunately from over our borders and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00740-00172020-00172169 wherever else they're coming in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00741-00172170-00172397 illegally and they're being hidden +B8wKm-l6v9U-00742-00172398-00172619 I'm not old to judge people but that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00743-00172620-00172816 where your crime is being committed not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00744-00172817-00173051 by people who are responsible gun owners +B8wKm-l6v9U-00745-00173052-00173302 hunting and using them +B8wKm-l6v9U-00746-00173303-00173501 in a controlled manner +B8wKm-l6v9U-00747-00173502-00173789 so you know for me I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00748-00173790-00173957 until we can get some of our mental +B8wKm-l6v9U-00749-00173958-00174161 health issues under control and we can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00750-00174162-00174401 get our crime of what's coming over the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00751-00174402-00174593 border and some of these guns under +B8wKm-l6v9U-00752-00174594-00174790 control that are coming in illegally +B8wKm-l6v9U-00753-00174791-00175013 we're going to continue to see an uptick +B8wKm-l6v9U-00754-00175014-00175187 but that's what we really need to work +B8wKm-l6v9U-00755-00175188-00175264 on +B8wKm-l6v9U-00756-00175265-00175469 not so much the actual licensed gun +B8wKm-l6v9U-00757-00175470-00175607 owners +B8wKm-l6v9U-00758-00175608-00175949 thank you Chet +B8wKm-l6v9U-00759-00175950-00176123 um do you believe there is really a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00760-00176124-00176363 problem and if so what do you believe +B8wKm-l6v9U-00761-00176364-00176573 the legislature can do to help keep our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00762-00176574-00176819 communities safe and secure well first +B8wKm-l6v9U-00763-00176820-00177035 of all I support the Second Amendment as +B8wKm-l6v9U-00764-00177036-00177257 do 90 percent of the people in this uh +B8wKm-l6v9U-00765-00177258-00177443 in this District +B8wKm-l6v9U-00766-00177444-00177713 um but I also think that there are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00767-00177714-00177881 common sense with gun laws that could be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00768-00177882-00178145 passed and ask yourself why aren't +B8wKm-l6v9U-00769-00178146-00178378 Common Sense gun laws being passed why +B8wKm-l6v9U-00770-00178379-00178535 does ninety percent of the people want +B8wKm-l6v9U-00771-00178536-00178697 certain things to pass and it never +B8wKm-l6v9U-00772-00178698-00179038 passes well I I would suggest to you the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00773-00179039-00179195 reason it doesn't pass is because we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00774-00179196-00179345 have a gun lobby here in this country +B8wKm-l6v9U-00775-00179346-00179602 and they contribute heavily to the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00776-00179603-00179838 political parties and to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00777-00179839-00180040 individuals who are running for public +B8wKm-l6v9U-00778-00180041-00180299 office and that's why we don't have any +B8wKm-l6v9U-00779-00180300-00180514 Common Sense gun laws we have people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00780-00180515-00180833 with mental illnesses able to to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00781-00180834-00181157 um get get a hold of military assault +B8wKm-l6v9U-00782-00181158-00181390 rifles +B8wKm-l6v9U-00783-00181391-00181483 um +B8wKm-l6v9U-00784-00181484-00181721 you know as long as we continue to have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00785-00181722-00182014 this this system where we have political +B8wKm-l6v9U-00786-00182015-00182214 contributions that are made +B8wKm-l6v9U-00787-00182215-00182609 by uh you know the the gun manufacturers +B8wKm-l6v9U-00788-00182610-00182759 we're going to continue to have this +B8wKm-l6v9U-00789-00182760-00182945 kind of problem here in the state beyond +B8wKm-l6v9U-00790-00182946-00183154 that let me just say a little bit about +B8wKm-l6v9U-00791-00183155-00183288 um a safety +B8wKm-l6v9U-00792-00183289-00183731 I had a chance to attend a fundraiser +B8wKm-l6v9U-00793-00183732-00183928 for the boys and girls club in Sheboygan +B8wKm-l6v9U-00794-00183929-00184307 County and it reminded me of my hometown +B8wKm-l6v9U-00795-00184308-00184481 of South Milwaukee and the rec program +B8wKm-l6v9U-00796-00184482-00184787 that we had you know we I played +B8wKm-l6v9U-00797-00184788-00184990 football in the in the fall I played +B8wKm-l6v9U-00798-00184991-00185195 basketball in the winter I played +B8wKm-l6v9U-00799-00185196-00185440 baseball in the spring in the summer uh +B8wKm-l6v9U-00800-00185441-00185651 the schools were all open to us we +B8wKm-l6v9U-00801-00185652-00185854 didn't have time to get into trouble +B8wKm-l6v9U-00802-00185855-00186028 and maybe what we ought to be doing more +B8wKm-l6v9U-00803-00186029-00186178 of is taking a look at our own +B8wKm-l6v9U-00804-00186179-00186478 Recreation departments and uh what kinds +B8wKm-l6v9U-00805-00186479-00186725 of positive activities we could provide +B8wKm-l6v9U-00806-00186726-00186947 for the kids and we'd have far less +B8wKm-l6v9U-00807-00186948-00187169 crime quite frankly and we would have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00808-00187170-00187354 far less expense in terms of what we pay +B8wKm-l6v9U-00809-00187355-00187607 to to build prisons and to staff those +B8wKm-l6v9U-00810-00187608-00187804 prisons +B8wKm-l6v9U-00811-00187805-00188225 thank you and as a follow-up and Chet I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00812-00188226-00188483 will I will ask you first what is your +B8wKm-l6v9U-00813-00188484-00188699 position on universal background checks +B8wKm-l6v9U-00814-00188700-00188945 and the Banning of military style +B8wKm-l6v9U-00815-00188946-00189238 assault weapons in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00816-00189239-00189581 um uh I I would say this first of all I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00817-00189582-00189802 would be interested in listening to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00818-00189803-00190090 so-called experts on these areas to find +B8wKm-l6v9U-00819-00190091-00190366 out what kinds of laws really have a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00820-00190367-00190619 positive impact I can just say this that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00821-00190620-00190864 my inclination is to say to say that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00822-00190865-00191026 both of those things would probably +B8wKm-l6v9U-00823-00191027-00191261 background checks would probably be a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00824-00191262-00191371 good idea +B8wKm-l6v9U-00825-00191372-00191663 but beyond that I I would like to say +B8wKm-l6v9U-00826-00191664-00191807 something to the to the people here +B8wKm-l6v9U-00827-00191808-00191938 today that I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00828-00191939-00192088 um that I would like to do and I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00829-00192089-00192226 pledged during the course of this +B8wKm-l6v9U-00830-00192227-00192437 campaign that I would do and that is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00831-00192438-00192616 that I would send out periodic +B8wKm-l6v9U-00832-00192617-00192826 questionnaires to the people of the 27th +B8wKm-l6v9U-00833-00192827-00193013 District to find out what they really +B8wKm-l6v9U-00834-00193014-00193259 think about some of these so-called gun +B8wKm-l6v9U-00835-00193260-00193421 safety laws and what they think would +B8wKm-l6v9U-00836-00193422-00193673 really be effective now for those of you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00837-00193674-00193859 who receive questionnaires in the past +B8wKm-l6v9U-00838-00193860-00194075 if you receive the ones that I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00839-00194076-00194278 received those questionnaires are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00840-00194279-00194411 written in such a way that there's only +B8wKm-l6v9U-00841-00194412-00194681 one way to answer them and the answer is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00842-00194682-00194957 usually based upon what the person who +B8wKm-l6v9U-00843-00194958-00195221 is giving the questionnaire wants you to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00844-00195222-00195485 say so you can justify his or her bill +B8wKm-l6v9U-00845-00195486-00195731 or vote on a bill that's already been +B8wKm-l6v9U-00846-00195732-00195814 made +B8wKm-l6v9U-00847-00195815-00196109 I will pledge to the people of the 27th +B8wKm-l6v9U-00848-00196110-00196252 District that I will send out +B8wKm-l6v9U-00849-00196253-00196475 questionnaires and I'll have respected +B8wKm-l6v9U-00850-00196476-00196751 people on both sides of an issue write a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00851-00196752-00196949 few words as to why they believe the way +B8wKm-l6v9U-00852-00196950-00197207 they believe and I I'm interested in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00853-00197208-00197399 seeing what kind of feedback I have I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00854-00197400-00197578 will get and I'm interested in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00855-00197579-00197783 representing the views of those people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00856-00197784-00198107 as it relates to you know gun gun safety +B8wKm-l6v9U-00857-00198108-00198275 laws and a whole bunch of other issues +B8wKm-l6v9U-00858-00198276-00198593 that come before the state legislature +B8wKm-l6v9U-00859-00198594-00198935 thank you Amy what is your position on +B8wKm-l6v9U-00860-00198936-00199126 universal background checks and the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00861-00199127-00199300 Banning of military-style assault +B8wKm-l6v9U-00862-00199301-00199516 weapons in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-00863-00199517-00199726 I struggle with Banning any type of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00864-00199727-00199961 weapon to be honest with you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00865-00199962-00200237 um again it is a person's right +B8wKm-l6v9U-00866-00200238-00200423 I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00867-00200424-00200693 why people have them I don't know is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00868-00200694-00200975 there a reason for them probably not +B8wKm-l6v9U-00869-00200976-00201233 um to be honest I I don't think most of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00870-00201234-00201376 them are even available to most people +B8wKm-l6v9U-00871-00201377-00201611 unless they are getting them +B8wKm-l6v9U-00872-00201612-00201964 in in strange means I struggle with the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00873-00201965-00202219 term assault assault weapon +B8wKm-l6v9U-00874-00202220-00202499 just because every weapon would +B8wKm-l6v9U-00875-00202500-00202702 technically cause an assault under law +B8wKm-l6v9U-00876-00202703-00202961 so I think sometimes our terminology is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00877-00202962-00203411 based on media rhetoric and anything can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00878-00203412-00203609 kill I mean we don't call a knife an +B8wKm-l6v9U-00879-00203610-00203807 assault knife but it could kill someone +B8wKm-l6v9U-00880-00203808-00204059 so I don't want to get caught up in that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00881-00204060-00204233 but the point being background checks +B8wKm-l6v9U-00882-00204234-00204413 yeah I understand why they may come into +B8wKm-l6v9U-00883-00204414-00204599 play but when we keep talking about gun +B8wKm-l6v9U-00884-00204600-00204832 laws we have tons of gun laws on the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00885-00204833-00205012 books so why are we still having the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00886-00205013-00205162 crimes +B8wKm-l6v9U-00887-00205163-00205390 we have tons of laws on the books for +B8wKm-l6v9U-00888-00205391-00205582 lots of things yet we still have crime +B8wKm-l6v9U-00889-00205583-00205882 the bottom line is people will either do +B8wKm-l6v9U-00890-00205883-00206134 what the law says or they won't that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00891-00206135-00206398 an individual choice in a lot of cases +B8wKm-l6v9U-00892-00206400-00206782 you can't legalize what they think or +B8wKm-l6v9U-00893-00206783-00206951 sometimes what they do but you can +B8wKm-l6v9U-00894-00206952-00207208 punish them for what they do wrong our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00895-00207209-00207431 problem to me in Wisconsin is our lack +B8wKm-l6v9U-00896-00207432-00207634 of punishment against people who break +B8wKm-l6v9U-00897-00207635-00207844 the law and that is why we are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00898-00207846-00208025 struggling as a community because we're +B8wKm-l6v9U-00899-00208026-00208271 not actually punishing the people who do +B8wKm-l6v9U-00900-00208271-00208553 something wrong if you hurt somebody you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00901-00208554-00208751 should pay for that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00902-00208752-00208955 um if you break the law +B8wKm-l6v9U-00903-00208956-00209146 pay the piper whether it's a fine or +B8wKm-l6v9U-00904-00209148-00209357 jail time or whatever it might be too +B8wKm-l6v9U-00905-00209358-00209501 often we're letting people go with a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00906-00209502-00209692 slap on the hand because of who they are +B8wKm-l6v9U-00907-00209694-00209975 or what they did and it's wrong so it's +B8wKm-l6v9U-00908-00209976-00210160 not just about gun laws it's all laws +B8wKm-l6v9U-00909-00210161-00210425 that need to be re-looked at and carried +B8wKm-l6v9U-00910-00210426-00210623 out by the people we put in charge in +B8wKm-l6v9U-00911-00210623-00210898 our district attorneys to do that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00912-00210900-00211031 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00913-00211032-00211271 and I'll do another follow-up on the on +B8wKm-l6v9U-00914-00211271-00211451 the safety piece and Amy I'll ask you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00915-00211452-00211715 first you know there's a lot of +B8wKm-l6v9U-00916-00211716-00211979 conversation about how or if we should +B8wKm-l6v9U-00917-00211980-00212227 support our police better or differently +B8wKm-l6v9U-00918-00212228-00212548 so can you share with us you know where +B8wKm-l6v9U-00919-00212550-00212771 do you think the system is broken on +B8wKm-l6v9U-00920-00212771-00212963 supporting our police departments and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00921-00212964-00213239 local law enforcement and what do you +B8wKm-l6v9U-00922-00213240-00213437 believe we could do differently I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00923-00213438-00213677 a lot of it is teaching respect we have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00924-00213678-00213856 a lot of adults that do not respect our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00925-00213857-00213946 police +B8wKm-l6v9U-00926-00213948-00214151 unfortunately that trickles down into +B8wKm-l6v9U-00927-00214152-00214331 our children and now our children don't +B8wKm-l6v9U-00928-00214332-00214546 respect our police respect is a huge +B8wKm-l6v9U-00929-00214548-00214675 thing we're seeing it in our schools +B8wKm-l6v9U-00930-00214676-00214877 people are probably sick of me talking +B8wKm-l6v9U-00931-00214878-00215146 about respect but to me a lot of our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00932-00215148-00215519 issues are not respecting individuals if +B8wKm-l6v9U-00933-00215519-00215771 if I can't talk in a room without being +B8wKm-l6v9U-00934-00215771-00215951 ridiculed or somebody else can't talk to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00935-00215952-00216196 me without being ridiculed that's a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00936-00216198-00216358 problem there's nothing wrong with +B8wKm-l6v9U-00937-00216359-00216556 having different opinions but when it +B8wKm-l6v9U-00938-00216557-00216773 comes to our law enforcement they're +B8wKm-l6v9U-00939-00216773-00216989 almost being demonized for trying to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00940-00216990-00217181 uphold the laws that they've been asked +B8wKm-l6v9U-00941-00217182-00217415 to uphold they've sworn oath to do that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00942-00217416-00217613 and yet we're making them out to be the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00943-00217614-00217834 bad guys now don't get me wrong we all +B8wKm-l6v9U-00944-00217835-00217973 know there's good and bad employees +B8wKm-l6v9U-00945-00217973-00218153 that's everywhere there's going to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-00946-00218154-00218375 good and bad in our our systems as well +B8wKm-l6v9U-00947-00218376-00218567 that's where you need checks and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00948-00218567-00218927 balances but again if we teach people to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00949-00218928-00219125 respect our community police departments +B8wKm-l6v9U-00950-00219126-00219263 we're going to get a whole lot farther +B8wKm-l6v9U-00951-00219264-00219437 and I think that means trying to get +B8wKm-l6v9U-00952-00219438-00219610 them more involved even at a younger age +B8wKm-l6v9U-00953-00219611-00219767 with our school so that these kids don't +B8wKm-l6v9U-00954-00219767-00219929 look at them as the mean people or the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00955-00219930-00220139 bad people they're there to help +B8wKm-l6v9U-00956-00220140-00220331 unless you do something wrong then they +B8wKm-l6v9U-00957-00220332-00220553 might be there to arrest you hopefully +B8wKm-l6v9U-00958-00220554-00220751 it doesn't come to that if you get to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00959-00220752-00220967 know them overall so I think as a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00960-00220967-00221201 community we need to kind of put our +B8wKm-l6v9U-00961-00221202-00221387 police force back on a pedestal that +B8wKm-l6v9U-00962-00221388-00221615 they belong on and pay them respectfully +B8wKm-l6v9U-00963-00221616-00221794 and be respectful to them in all +B8wKm-l6v9U-00964-00221796-00221908 different ways +B8wKm-l6v9U-00965-00221909-00222137 thank you and Chet would you like to +B8wKm-l6v9U-00966-00222138-00222305 share your thoughts on law enforcement +B8wKm-l6v9U-00967-00222306-00222521 sure over the earlier in the summer I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00968-00222521-00222863 had a chance to attend an event at uh Ed +B8wKm-l6v9U-00969-00222864-00223282 Park in the city of Sheboygan it was the +B8wKm-l6v9U-00970-00223283-00223506 the community +B8wKm-l6v9U-00971-00223507-00223906 group had a night out and what impressed +B8wKm-l6v9U-00972-00223907-00224105 me about that night out there were a lot +B8wKm-l6v9U-00973-00224106-00224387 of people from non-profit organizations +B8wKm-l6v9U-00974-00224388-00224596 that were there but I I really +B8wKm-l6v9U-00975-00224598-00224753 appreciated the fact that there were a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00976-00224754-00224939 number of police officers there as well +B8wKm-l6v9U-00977-00224940-00225155 and those are the kinds of things that I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00978-00225156-00225425 think we need to encourage more of I +B8wKm-l6v9U-00979-00225426-00225629 think you know more interaction between +B8wKm-l6v9U-00980-00225630-00225881 the the police and the community I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00981-00225882-00226198 is is extremely uh important and I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-00982-00226200-00226379 the same thing could probably happen +B8wKm-l6v9U-00983-00226380-00226637 within our schools as well where we have +B8wKm-l6v9U-00984-00226638-00226901 police officers coming and meeting with +B8wKm-l6v9U-00985-00226902-00227117 kids and and so the kids begin to look +B8wKm-l6v9U-00986-00227117-00227387 at police officers as somebody that is a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00987-00227388-00227641 friend somebody that can help them +B8wKm-l6v9U-00988-00227642-00227903 and I agree with Amy from the stand +B8wKm-l6v9U-00989-00227904-00228203 endpoint that this is a a tough tough +B8wKm-l6v9U-00990-00228204-00228437 job I've gone out and many times I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00991-00228438-00228658 been talked to groups and I've said I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-00992-00228659-00228863 asked people raise your hand if you'd +B8wKm-l6v9U-00993-00228864-00229108 like to be a police officer and you know +B8wKm-l6v9U-00994-00229109-00229289 they're not a whole lot of hands that go +B8wKm-l6v9U-00995-00229290-00229523 up because I think people realize what a +B8wKm-l6v9U-00996-00229523-00229789 dangerous and difficult job it is +B8wKm-l6v9U-00997-00229790-00230032 quite frankly we need to better better +B8wKm-l6v9U-00998-00230033-00230417 community support for our our police and +B8wKm-l6v9U-00999-00230417-00230644 I think that we need to do a better job +B8wKm-l6v9U-01000-00230646-00230998 quite frankly of recruiting and training +B8wKm-l6v9U-01001-00231000-00231292 and paying our police as well +B8wKm-l6v9U-01002-00231294-00231646 thank you so we will transition over +B8wKm-l6v9U-01003-00231648-00232042 into education and local education so +B8wKm-l6v9U-01004-00232044-00232342 Amy I will start with you you shared in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01005-00232344-00232534 your literature that you support +B8wKm-l6v9U-01006-00232535-00232798 expansion of school choice we have been +B8wKm-l6v9U-01007-00232800-00232979 fortunate to allow school choice +B8wKm-l6v9U-01008-00232980-00233134 throughout Sheboygan area school +B8wKm-l6v9U-01009-00233135-00233423 district for some years now can you tell +B8wKm-l6v9U-01010-00233423-00233608 us how you would expand school choice +B8wKm-l6v9U-01011-00233609-00233860 and are you suggesting that private and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01012-00233861-00234094 parochial schools should be supported by +B8wKm-l6v9U-01013-00234096-00234298 taxpayer dollars +B8wKm-l6v9U-01014-00234300-00234491 it's a tough one to be honest last night +B8wKm-l6v9U-01015-00234492-00234623 I spent three and a half hours at the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01016-00234623-00234875 Sheboygan County or the Sheboygan School +B8wKm-l6v9U-01017-00234876-00235084 District meeting +B8wKm-l6v9U-01018-00235085-00235319 um it was very enlightening it was the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01019-00235319-00235589 budget meeting so one of the things that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01020-00235590-00235756 I could tell was very contentious in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01021-00235757-00235937 that meeting was the fact that about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01022-00235938-00236321 four million dollars is spent of our +B8wKm-l6v9U-01023-00236321-00236542 state government money for the voucher +B8wKm-l6v9U-01024-00236544-00236825 program it meets a lot of opposition +B8wKm-l6v9U-01025-00236826-00237208 what ends up happening is the taxpayer +B8wKm-l6v9U-01026-00237209-00237491 what the the Sheboygan area is doing +B8wKm-l6v9U-01027-00237492-00237682 then is turning around they charge the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01028-00237683-00237856 taxpayer that difference and and that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-01029-00237857-00238060 hitting a lot of people wrong I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-01030-00238061-00238289 one of the things that's hard for me +B8wKm-l6v9U-01031-00238290-00238606 as a mother and everyone wants their +B8wKm-l6v9U-01032-00238607-00238787 child to have the best education +B8wKm-l6v9U-01033-00238788-00239051 and if I look at the public schools I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01034-00239052-00239248 believe today compared to the public +B8wKm-l6v9U-01035-00239250-00239417 schools about 20 years ago there's +B8wKm-l6v9U-01036-00239417-00239656 there's a pretty vast difference and and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01037-00239657-00239813 I don't think it's necessarily for the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01038-00239814-00239891 better +B8wKm-l6v9U-01039-00239892-00240292 there is a lot of animosity between +B8wKm-l6v9U-01040-00240294-00240569 should this be expanded or not I guess +B8wKm-l6v9U-01041-00240569-00240755 the rule of thumb is I stood at the door +B8wKm-l6v9U-01042-00240756-00240953 talking to one lady and she said to me +B8wKm-l6v9U-01043-00240954-00241156 she didn't like the idea of me trying to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01044-00241157-00241367 push my religion and I said it's not +B8wKm-l6v9U-01045-00241367-00241631 about me pushing my religion it's about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01046-00241632-00241865 children getting a good education +B8wKm-l6v9U-01047-00241866-00242098 so I want to make sure that regardless +B8wKm-l6v9U-01048-00242100-00242339 of where you fall in the scale of being +B8wKm-l6v9U-01049-00242340-00242567 able to afford it privately or not that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01050-00242567-00242734 that child has the best education +B8wKm-l6v9U-01051-00242735-00242939 possible and if somebody feels that is a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01052-00242940-00243196 public school system that's awesome if +B8wKm-l6v9U-01053-00243198-00243365 somebody feels the public school system +B8wKm-l6v9U-01054-00243366-00243605 is not providing what they need they +B8wKm-l6v9U-01055-00243606-00243844 have the right and the privilege to say +B8wKm-l6v9U-01056-00243846-00244175 I'm sending my child over here +B8wKm-l6v9U-01057-00244176-00244396 you know we look for the free market +B8wKm-l6v9U-01058-00244398-00244606 when it comes to business I hate to say +B8wKm-l6v9U-01059-00244607-00244931 it has to be into our schools as well +B8wKm-l6v9U-01060-00244932-00245098 um I look forward to working with the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01061-00245100-00245242 school districts I know I'm not going to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01062-00245244-00245405 be the most welcome person there by any +B8wKm-l6v9U-01063-00245406-00245608 means but I look forward to sitting down +B8wKm-l6v9U-01064-00245609-00245794 with them and talking it through I in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01065-00245796-00245932 listening last night I feel there's a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01066-00245933-00246106 lot of common ground we can find if we +B8wKm-l6v9U-01067-00246107-00246323 just listen to each other so yes I do +B8wKm-l6v9U-01068-00246323-00246508 want to see that expanded for the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01069-00246509-00246827 options of all children's education +B8wKm-l6v9U-01070-00246828-00246989 thank you Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-01071-00246990-00247210 Chet can you share with us what is your +B8wKm-l6v9U-01072-00247211-00247439 position on school choice and how would +B8wKm-l6v9U-01073-00247440-00247679 you suggest we move forward well let me +B8wKm-l6v9U-01074-00247680-00247967 Begin by saying uh like we need to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01075-00247967-00248225 support our police I think we need to do +B8wKm-l6v9U-01076-00248226-00248494 a much better job of supporting our +B8wKm-l6v9U-01077-00248496-00248746 teachers now I may be a little +B8wKm-l6v9U-01078-00248748-00248963 old-fashioned but I remember when I was +B8wKm-l6v9U-01079-00248964-00249377 in in grade school and I remember my +B8wKm-l6v9U-01080-00249378-00249719 parents going to my teacher and telling +B8wKm-l6v9U-01081-00249719-00250060 my teacher listen if my son acts up in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01082-00250061-00250301 school and is disrespectful you let me +B8wKm-l6v9U-01083-00250302-00250481 know and he'll hear about it when he +B8wKm-l6v9U-01084-00250482-00250792 gets home so for starters I'd say we +B8wKm-l6v9U-01085-00250794-00250932 need to do that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01086-00250933-00251321 choice and and competition both are good +B8wKm-l6v9U-01087-00251321-00251627 things but let me say this that and I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01088-00251628-00251881 was brought up and my dad was a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01089-00251882-00252096 hard-nosed +B8wKm-l6v9U-01090-00252098-00252329 accountant quite frankly balance the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01091-00252330-00252634 budget kind of guy and I was brought up +B8wKm-l6v9U-01092-00252635-00252839 in in probably an upper middle class +B8wKm-l6v9U-01093-00252840-00253091 family my you know have a lot of money +B8wKm-l6v9U-01094-00253092-00253355 but we you know we had some dollars and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01095-00253356-00253619 my parents chose to send me to a a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01096-00253619-00253889 private grade school a private high +B8wKm-l6v9U-01097-00253890-00254153 school a private college and you know +B8wKm-l6v9U-01098-00254154-00254356 what they never asked the government for +B8wKm-l6v9U-01099-00254357-00254548 a nickel +B8wKm-l6v9U-01100-00254550-00254831 um and I take a look at +B8wKm-l6v9U-01101-00254832-00255071 um I remember serving in the legislature +B8wKm-l6v9U-01102-00255071-00255406 with Governor Lee Dreyfus and Leewood +B8wKm-l6v9U-01103-00255407-00255682 his big his big slogan was it would +B8wKm-l6v9U-01104-00255683-00255941 remind us in the legislature about his +B8wKm-l6v9U-01105-00255942-00256294 Golden Rule and the rule was he who has +B8wKm-l6v9U-01106-00256296-00256619 the gold makes the rules and if you and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01107-00256619-00256901 if people who want and are sending their +B8wKm-l6v9U-01108-00256902-00257201 kids to private schools think that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01109-00257202-00257381 they're if they when they get all that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01110-00257382-00257537 money coming in from the state of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01111-00257538-00257729 Wisconsin that they're still going to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01112-00257730-00257951 able to make the rules I think they're +B8wKm-l6v9U-01113-00257952-00258179 sorely mistaken they're given up an +B8wKm-l6v9U-01114-00258180-00258323 option that they I don't think that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-01115-00258323-00258479 what they want I don't think they want +B8wKm-l6v9U-01116-00258480-00258682 the state to make those rules but once +B8wKm-l6v9U-01117-00258683-00258869 they start accepting the money they're +B8wKm-l6v9U-01118-00258869-00259001 going to have to start accepting the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01119-00259002-00259217 rules +B8wKm-l6v9U-01120-00259217-00259565 thank you we will transition the topic +B8wKm-l6v9U-01121-00259566-00259667 once again +B8wKm-l6v9U-01122-00259667-00260021 and Amy we will start with you the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01123-00260021-00260219 legalization of marijuana for +B8wKm-l6v9U-01124-00260219-00260453 recreational use has been passed into +B8wKm-l6v9U-01125-00260454-00260729 law in several neighboring states please +B8wKm-l6v9U-01126-00260730-00260939 share with us your position on this +B8wKm-l6v9U-01127-00260940-00261179 issue and reasons you would vote for or +B8wKm-l6v9U-01128-00261180-00261491 against legalization in Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-01129-00261492-00261827 so this one has lost me some +B8wKm-l6v9U-01130-00261828-00262013 sponsorships not gonna lie and I'm okay +B8wKm-l6v9U-01131-00262014-00262229 with that actually many of my answers +B8wKm-l6v9U-01132-00262230-00262582 have lost me that and I'm okay with that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01133-00262583-00262829 when it comes to marijuana I can +B8wKm-l6v9U-01134-00262830-00262979 honestly look everybody in the face and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01135-00262980-00263177 tell you I've never done it I've never +B8wKm-l6v9U-01136-00263178-00263495 done recreational drugs +B8wKm-l6v9U-01137-00263496-00263717 it's hard for me because as a mother I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01138-00263718-00264010 look at I hear the Gateway stories +B8wKm-l6v9U-01139-00264011-00264269 I don't necessarily disagree with them I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01140-00264270-00264508 have talked to a group of individuals +B8wKm-l6v9U-01141-00264509-00264689 that wanted to know exactly where I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01142-00264690-00264839 stood on this too and what I said to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01143-00264840-00265213 them was well if you have for example a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01144-00265214-00265427 prescription from a doctor for a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01145-00265428-00265643 medication you expect to go and get that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01146-00265644-00265858 prescription filled so if you're being +B8wKm-l6v9U-01147-00265859-00266093 prescribed to marijuana for +B8wKm-l6v9U-01148-00266094-00266321 a medical reason +B8wKm-l6v9U-01149-00266322-00266471 you should be able to go and get it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01150-00266472-00266584 filled +B8wKm-l6v9U-01151-00266585-00266765 and the gentleman said to me but I can't +B8wKm-l6v9U-01152-00266766-00266987 I have to go somewhere else and do that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01153-00266988-00267137 and he said don't you find that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01154-00267138-00267377 ridiculous and I said to be honest I do +B8wKm-l6v9U-01155-00267378-00267773 if it's being prescribed I feel that you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01156-00267774-00267995 also have to make sure that you are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01157-00267996-00268199 following the parameters of if you are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01158-00268200-00268432 being inhibited in some way by the use +B8wKm-l6v9U-01159-00268433-00268601 of that you have to make sure you're not +B8wKm-l6v9U-01160-00268602-00268787 using a motor vehicle or that you're not +B8wKm-l6v9U-01161-00268788-00268960 showing up to work maybe under that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01162-00268961-00269182 influence I'm not sure why you're being +B8wKm-l6v9U-01163-00269183-00269327 prescribed but if that's what your +B8wKm-l6v9U-01164-00269328-00269495 doctor and you have decided that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-01165-00269496-00269699 between you and your doctor but you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01166-00269700-00269873 can't put somebody else's Health at risk +B8wKm-l6v9U-01167-00269874-00270106 if you choose to do something on the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01168-00270107-00270197 contrary +B8wKm-l6v9U-01169-00270198-00270401 the next question then became well what +B8wKm-l6v9U-01170-00270402-00270634 about just legalizing it in general I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01171-00270635-00270803 have seen some of the stats from +B8wKm-l6v9U-01172-00270804-00271001 Colorado from Illinois +B8wKm-l6v9U-01173-00271002-00271265 they're not looking overly positive I'm +B8wKm-l6v9U-01174-00271266-00271439 not going to lie so I struggle with it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01175-00271440-00271708 my original comment and I will stand by +B8wKm-l6v9U-01176-00271709-00271877 it is I guess if it's going to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01177-00271878-00272093 legalized then we're going to treat it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01178-00272094-00272279 with lots of rules as far as we do you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01179-00272280-00272429 can't show up drunk to work you can't +B8wKm-l6v9U-01180-00272430-00272680 show up high to work those things are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01181-00272681-00272825 going to have to stay in place nobody +B8wKm-l6v9U-01182-00272826-00273005 wants that person operating on their +B8wKm-l6v9U-01183-00273006-00273419 loved one or piloting their plane or +B8wKm-l6v9U-01184-00273420-00273569 just on the street with them in general +B8wKm-l6v9U-01185-00273570-00273832 in the same token we have to make sure +B8wKm-l6v9U-01186-00273833-00274187 that we are being respectful and yet +B8wKm-l6v9U-01187-00274188-00274415 legally looking at what's best for all +B8wKm-l6v9U-01188-00274416-00274649 people around it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01189-00274650-00274937 Chet please share with us your position +B8wKm-l6v9U-01190-00274938-00275080 on +B8wKm-l6v9U-01191-00275081-00275345 the legalization of marijuana in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01192-00275346-00275543 state of Wisconsin yeah I have to admit +B8wKm-l6v9U-01193-00275544-00275747 it for me it's a it's a difficult one as +B8wKm-l6v9U-01194-00275748-00275884 well +B8wKm-l6v9U-01195-00275885-00276160 um my basic philosophy is get high in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01196-00276161-00276480 life and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01197-00276481-00276743 you know +B8wKm-l6v9U-01198-00276744-00277151 I have talked to people who have been +B8wKm-l6v9U-01199-00277152-00277421 prescribed medical marijuana and I have +B8wKm-l6v9U-01200-00277422-00277697 heard stories that it has been +B8wKm-l6v9U-01201-00277698-00277913 beneficial to them and certainly when +B8wKm-l6v9U-01202-00277914-00278206 people have medical issues you you hate +B8wKm-l6v9U-01203-00278207-00278482 to deny them access the things that can +B8wKm-l6v9U-01204-00278483-00278719 help them quite frankly +B8wKm-l6v9U-01205-00278720-00279017 and I I have taken a look at some of our +B8wKm-l6v9U-01206-00279018-00279232 surrounding states and and states and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01207-00279233-00279406 you know in general in the united states +B8wKm-l6v9U-01208-00279407-00279689 where marijuana has been legalized and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01209-00279690-00279899 it's hard to argue against the dollars +B8wKm-l6v9U-01210-00279900-00280145 that have been brought into those State +B8wKm-l6v9U-01211-00280146-00280313 coffers and the good things that can be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01212-00280314-00280630 done with those dollars but I think I I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01213-00280631-00280884 would I would say this that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01214-00280885-00281255 as I indicated earlier about the you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01215-00281256-00281513 know wanting to do questionnaires I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01216-00281514-00281741 would commit myself quite frankly to a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01217-00281742-00282005 questionnaire to the people of the 27th +B8wKm-l6v9U-01218-00282006-00282210 district and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01219-00282211-00282563 whoever asked that particular question I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01220-00282564-00282737 would give that person an opportunity to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01221-00282738-00283013 write an essay as to why marijuana +B8wKm-l6v9U-01222-00283014-00283205 should be legalized in the state of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01223-00283206-00283421 Wisconsin and not have someone on the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01224-00283422-00283637 opposite side and I'd listen carefully +B8wKm-l6v9U-01225-00283638-00283901 to the collected wisdom of the people of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01226-00283902-00284171 the 27th District as to where they think +B8wKm-l6v9U-01227-00284172-00284471 we ought to go with that issue +B8wKm-l6v9U-01228-00284472-00284729 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01229-00284730-00284956 so to talk a little bit about election +B8wKm-l6v9U-01230-00284957-00285208 integrity and we may have a couple of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01231-00285209-00285395 minutes to take more questions from the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01232-00285396-00285569 audience +B8wKm-l6v9U-01233-00285570-00285869 um so Amy I will start with you after +B8wKm-l6v9U-01234-00285870-00286169 the 2020 election several investigations +B8wKm-l6v9U-01235-00286170-00286408 from both the left and right turned up +B8wKm-l6v9U-01236-00286409-00286697 no substantial irregularities do you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01237-00286698-00286889 feel there was significant voter fraud +B8wKm-l6v9U-01238-00286890-00287243 in Wisconsin and if so what evidence do +B8wKm-l6v9U-01239-00287244-00287560 you have to substantiate that claim +B8wKm-l6v9U-01240-00287561-00287860 do I have any personal evidence no +B8wKm-l6v9U-01241-00287861-00287927 um +B8wKm-l6v9U-01242-00287928-00288160 do I think things +B8wKm-l6v9U-01243-00288161-00288430 seem a little bit scared yes when you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01244-00288431-00288773 look at particularly our nursing homes +B8wKm-l6v9U-01245-00288774-00289037 in some of our areas to go from on +B8wKm-l6v9U-01246-00289038-00289306 average prior years 10 percent of people +B8wKm-l6v9U-01247-00289307-00289547 in those nursing home voted to 90 +B8wKm-l6v9U-01248-00289548-00289679 percent +B8wKm-l6v9U-01249-00289680-00289949 seems a little off to me but I'm not +B8wKm-l6v9U-01250-00289950-00290129 here to say it was right or wrong but I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01251-00290130-00290371 would have to question boy 80 increase +B8wKm-l6v9U-01252-00290372-00290765 seems a little odd I can see where a lot +B8wKm-l6v9U-01253-00290766-00290939 of the things were not going to tip it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01254-00290940-00291149 off when you have so many ballots that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01255-00291150-00291455 are dropped off or mailed in once those +B8wKm-l6v9U-01256-00291456-00291647 ballots are opened you don't know where +B8wKm-l6v9U-01257-00291648-00291869 they came from so there's no doubt in my +B8wKm-l6v9U-01258-00291870-00292025 mind that when you do a recount the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01259-00292026-00292210 count is going to come out the same and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01260-00292211-00292337 then you're going to say well there was +B8wKm-l6v9U-01261-00292338-00292480 no voter fraud +B8wKm-l6v9U-01262-00292481-00292793 so you know for people who say to me and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01263-00292794-00292960 and I get it a lot +B8wKm-l6v9U-01264-00292961-00293206 um you know what's the reality I'm a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01265-00293207-00293441 fact-based person the fact is our 46th +B8wKm-l6v9U-01266-00293442-00293603 president is Joe Biden +B8wKm-l6v9U-01267-00293604-00293741 that's a fact +B8wKm-l6v9U-01268-00293742-00293999 whether something went on or not I don't +B8wKm-l6v9U-01269-00294000-00294221 know I wasn't in charge of it I can tell +B8wKm-l6v9U-01270-00294222-00294430 you I have suspicions on some of it I'm +B8wKm-l6v9U-01271-00294431-00294653 not a conspiracy theorist I'm just a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01272-00294654-00294827 reality looking person and when you look +B8wKm-l6v9U-01273-00294828-00295013 at some of these facts some things do +B8wKm-l6v9U-01274-00295014-00295205 not seem to Jive quite like they should +B8wKm-l6v9U-01275-00295206-00295456 but going forward I think we just have +B8wKm-l6v9U-01276-00295457-00295655 to ensure the more people that can vote +B8wKm-l6v9U-01277-00295656-00295913 in person today for example if you are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01278-00295914-00296015 not going to be able to vote next +B8wKm-l6v9U-01279-00296016-00296195 Tuesday I encourage you your voting poll +B8wKm-l6v9U-01280-00296196-00296332 should be open till seven o'clock +B8wKm-l6v9U-01281-00296333-00296549 tonight in person go +B8wKm-l6v9U-01282-00296550-00296830 it's there go ahead and do it do more +B8wKm-l6v9U-01283-00296831-00297041 in-person voting don't rely on the mail +B8wKm-l6v9U-01284-00297042-00297229 what happens if it does get lost +B8wKm-l6v9U-01285-00297230-00297449 legitimately it just gets lost do you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01286-00297450-00297641 want to take that chance the ballot +B8wKm-l6v9U-01287-00297642-00297977 boxes have been deemed against law +B8wKm-l6v9U-01288-00297978-00298193 so I'm glad to hear that but if you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01289-00298194-00298325 really want to know your vote counts +B8wKm-l6v9U-01290-00298326-00298493 please show up on voting day or take +B8wKm-l6v9U-01291-00298494-00298673 advantage of this entire week to get +B8wKm-l6v9U-01292-00298674-00298901 down and in person show your ID do your +B8wKm-l6v9U-01293-00298902-00299129 diligent Duty and and feel proud about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01294-00299130-00299291 what you did and let's take some of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01295-00299292-00299434 those challenges out we need to also +B8wKm-l6v9U-01296-00299435-00299579 look at our voter rolls and make sure +B8wKm-l6v9U-01297-00299580-00299795 they're cleaned up on a regular basis to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01298-00299796-00299963 ensure that the right people are in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01299-00299964-00300082 right places +B8wKm-l6v9U-01300-00300083-00300395 thank you thank you Chet do you feel +B8wKm-l6v9U-01301-00300396-00300587 there was significant voter fraud in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01302-00300588-00300977 Wisconsin in the 2020 election and if so +B8wKm-l6v9U-01303-00300978-00301175 what evidence do you have to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01304-00301176-00301391 substantiate that claim +B8wKm-l6v9U-01305-00301392-00301829 you know I I like to play the odds and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01306-00301830-00301895 um +B8wKm-l6v9U-01307-00301896-00302093 in +B8wKm-l6v9U-01308-00302094-00302327 um during the 2020 election +B8wKm-l6v9U-01309-00302328-00302777 there were 63 lawsuits that were filed +B8wKm-l6v9U-01310-00302778-00303053 claiming election fraud +B8wKm-l6v9U-01311-00303054-00303497 and of those 63 lawsuits that were filed +B8wKm-l6v9U-01312-00303498-00303917 the 63 courts found that there was no +B8wKm-l6v9U-01313-00303918-00304030 fraud +B8wKm-l6v9U-01314-00304031-00304282 and yet we in this country and there are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01315-00304283-00304493 people in this country that continue to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01316-00304494-00304787 put forward the idea that the election +B8wKm-l6v9U-01317-00304788-00305141 was a fraud that it was a mistake and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01318-00305142-00305375 it's being used to divide continue to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01319-00305376-00305663 divide this country now you know I told +B8wKm-l6v9U-01320-00305664-00305806 you earlier I played a lot of sports +B8wKm-l6v9U-01321-00305807-00306119 growing up and I can tell you if I was +B8wKm-l6v9U-01322-00306120-00306389 playing baseball and I was batting zero +B8wKm-l6v9U-01323-00306390-00306677 for 63 I'd be sitting on the end of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01324-00306678-00306779 bench +B8wKm-l6v9U-01325-00306780-00307013 and to think that you know there are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01326-00307014-00307223 people out there spreading this idea +B8wKm-l6v9U-01327-00307224-00307541 that this was a fraudulent election and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01328-00307542-00307817 continuing to use that as a mechanism of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01329-00307818-00307984 dividing a country +B8wKm-l6v9U-01330-00307985-00308284 I just don't think that's the way to go +B8wKm-l6v9U-01331-00308285-00308513 uh and I'm trouble and I hope Amy you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01332-00308514-00308837 might uh you know um Enlighten us on +B8wKm-l6v9U-01333-00308838-00309053 this particular point but it's my +B8wKm-l6v9U-01334-00309054-00309245 understanding that you are promoting a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01335-00309246-00309551 movie called 2000 mules which is a movie +B8wKm-l6v9U-01336-00309552-00309803 that says there are 2 000 individuals +B8wKm-l6v9U-01337-00309804-00310097 out there that are shoving false ballot +B8wKm-l6v9U-01338-00310098-00310306 ballots in ballot boxes throughout the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01339-00310307-00310523 United States and that's the reason why +B8wKm-l6v9U-01340-00310524-00310858 Joe Biden won the last election +B8wKm-l6v9U-01341-00310859-00311110 um I don't believe that's the case I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01342-00311111-00311291 don't think I don't think a legitimate +B8wKm-l6v9U-01343-00311292-00311434 case has been made for fraudulent +B8wKm-l6v9U-01344-00311435-00311615 election and I think the more we +B8wKm-l6v9U-01345-00311616-00311854 continue to you know make this claim the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01346-00311855-00312095 more we end up dividing Americans rather +B8wKm-l6v9U-01347-00312096-00312239 than trying to unite them and bring them +B8wKm-l6v9U-01348-00312240-00312539 together and work together +B8wKm-l6v9U-01349-00312540-00312989 thank you as a follow-up Amy I will ask +B8wKm-l6v9U-01350-00312990-00313210 you first do you believe there are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01351-00313211-00313427 present threats to our election process +B8wKm-l6v9U-01352-00313428-00313727 and if so what do you believe we should +B8wKm-l6v9U-01353-00313728-00313997 do to eliminate them again I think the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01354-00313998-00314213 more in-person voting we can do the more +B8wKm-l6v9U-01355-00314214-00314477 voter ID I don't know why anybody would +B8wKm-l6v9U-01356-00314478-00314699 have a problem wanting voter ID +B8wKm-l6v9U-01357-00314700-00314903 you have to show it for just about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01358-00314904-00315047 everything out there I think it's one of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01359-00315048-00315241 the most simple things to do +B8wKm-l6v9U-01360-00315242-00315454 the bottom line is people move around +B8wKm-l6v9U-01361-00315455-00315725 all the time so I can see where you know +B8wKm-l6v9U-01362-00315726-00315899 even within the city you think from +B8wKm-l6v9U-01363-00315900-00316097 apartment to apartment it's very +B8wKm-l6v9U-01364-00316098-00316253 possible somebody's going to move twice +B8wKm-l6v9U-01365-00316254-00316493 between elections so I I can understand +B8wKm-l6v9U-01366-00316494-00316684 where things can get a little jumbled up +B8wKm-l6v9U-01367-00316685-00317080 in in the specific mapping of people but +B8wKm-l6v9U-01368-00317081-00317243 if you have that driver's license and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01369-00317244-00317447 you have proof if your license doesn't +B8wKm-l6v9U-01370-00317448-00317656 match the address that you're claiming +B8wKm-l6v9U-01371-00317657-00317843 to be voting for then bring a bill +B8wKm-l6v9U-01372-00317844-00318071 showing okay I moved here and and this +B8wKm-l6v9U-01373-00318072-00318304 is my address it really shouldn't be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01374-00318305-00318503 rocket science it's actually to me a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01375-00318504-00318671 pretty simple thing I know one lady did +B8wKm-l6v9U-01376-00318672-00318839 reach out to me and she said so my mom's +B8wKm-l6v9U-01377-00318840-00319115 not supposed to vote anymore because you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01378-00319116-00319330 don't want to have mail-in ballots or +B8wKm-l6v9U-01379-00319331-00319619 ballot boxes it's not at all what I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01380-00319620-00319834 meant her mother can't stand in line for +B8wKm-l6v9U-01381-00319835-00320027 long periods of time that's a great +B8wKm-l6v9U-01382-00320028-00320267 opportunity to come this week now when +B8wKm-l6v9U-01383-00320268-00320525 you're going to have less lines and go +B8wKm-l6v9U-01384-00320526-00320903 ahead and vote early in person so we +B8wKm-l6v9U-01385-00320904-00321047 don't have to make it as controversial +B8wKm-l6v9U-01386-00321048-00321323 as it's being out to me to be made we +B8wKm-l6v9U-01387-00321324-00321491 just have to work together to find those +B8wKm-l6v9U-01388-00321492-00321701 Common Sense grounds in which we can get +B8wKm-l6v9U-01389-00321702-00321856 people to the ballots and let them vote +B8wKm-l6v9U-01390-00321857-00322271 and feel good about it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01391-00322272-00322487 Chet do you believe there are present +B8wKm-l6v9U-01392-00322488-00322721 threats to our election process and if +B8wKm-l6v9U-01393-00322722-00323104 so what would you do to eliminate them +B8wKm-l6v9U-01394-00323105-00323380 the right to vote is the greatest right +B8wKm-l6v9U-01395-00323381-00323741 that every American in this every +B8wKm-l6v9U-01396-00323742-00324065 American has and and we ought to make it +B8wKm-l6v9U-01397-00324066-00324323 as easy as possible for people to vote +B8wKm-l6v9U-01398-00324324-00324565 and we ought to encourage people to vote +B8wKm-l6v9U-01399-00324566-00324827 during the course of this election I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01400-00324828-00325151 made it a point to personally talk to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01401-00325152-00325560 every village clerk every town clerk +B8wKm-l6v9U-01402-00325561-00325915 every city clerk to our County Clerk +B8wKm-l6v9U-01403-00325916-00326189 about election integrity +B8wKm-l6v9U-01404-00326190-00326423 and I can tell you that elections here +B8wKm-l6v9U-01405-00326424-00326710 in Sheboygan County are fair and they're +B8wKm-l6v9U-01406-00326711-00327034 free and in addition to the clerks who +B8wKm-l6v9U-01407-00327035-00327275 have had a chance to talk to you know +B8wKm-l6v9U-01408-00327276-00327430 it's your neighbors +B8wKm-l6v9U-01409-00327431-00327575 um who are out there helping to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01410-00327576-00327863 administer uh those elections to keep +B8wKm-l6v9U-01411-00327864-00328084 them free and fair and we ought to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01412-00328085-00328330 you know pleased quite frankly that we +B8wKm-l6v9U-01413-00328331-00328553 have that that system here in this +B8wKm-l6v9U-01414-00328554-00328834 country and quite frankly we need to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01415-00328835-00329134 more supportive of our local clerks uh +B8wKm-l6v9U-01416-00329135-00329303 who I think are doing a tremendous job +B8wKm-l6v9U-01417-00329304-00329495 to make sure that you know we have free +B8wKm-l6v9U-01418-00329496-00329729 and fair elections in this County +B8wKm-l6v9U-01419-00329730-00329893 thank you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01420-00329894-00330191 and last question for today as we are at +B8wKm-l6v9U-01421-00330192-00330443 times so I apologize if I haven't hit +B8wKm-l6v9U-01422-00330444-00330634 anything that was that you guys were +B8wKm-l6v9U-01423-00330635-00330815 wanting me to ask +B8wKm-l6v9U-01424-00330816-00331193 um but um over the um you know past +B8wKm-l6v9U-01425-00331194-00331487 couple of years well let me rephrase all +B8wKm-l6v9U-01426-00331488-00331619 things +B8wKm-l6v9U-01427-00331620-00331853 staying the same +B8wKm-l6v9U-01428-00331854-00332045 um what would you have done differently +B8wKm-l6v9U-01429-00332046-00332393 to make more progress in the legislature +B8wKm-l6v9U-01430-00332394-00332584 over the past couple of years as we know +B8wKm-l6v9U-01431-00332585-00332813 there's been quite a standoff on both +B8wKm-l6v9U-01432-00332814-00333125 sides of the aisle and we've touched on +B8wKm-l6v9U-01433-00333126-00333256 it you guys have touched on it a little +B8wKm-l6v9U-01434-00333257-00333479 bit today you know some of that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01435-00333480-00333689 contention so what would you have done +B8wKm-l6v9U-01436-00333690-00333899 differently had you been in that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01437-00333900-00334097 position over the past couple of years +B8wKm-l6v9U-01438-00334098-00334451 to change the outcome +B8wKm-l6v9U-01439-00334452-00334660 so you know what Chad I'll start with +B8wKm-l6v9U-01440-00334661-00334877 you and I apologize that was my mistake +B8wKm-l6v9U-01441-00334878-00335123 well I I will say I I did serve in the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01442-00335124-00335327 legislature once upon a time I served as +B8wKm-l6v9U-01443-00335328-00335567 a Democrat uh I thought of myself mostly +B8wKm-l6v9U-01444-00335568-00335903 as a non-partisan +B8wKm-l6v9U-01445-00335904-00336106 um and when I left the legislature I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01446-00336107-00336382 remember two conversations that I had +B8wKm-l6v9U-01447-00336383-00336575 and they were both with Republican +B8wKm-l6v9U-01448-00336576-00336815 legislators one became a Supreme Court +B8wKm-l6v9U-01449-00336816-00337001 Justice and the other became the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01450-00337002-00337180 president of the Senate and they both +B8wKm-l6v9U-01451-00337181-00337469 said the same thing which was Chet if +B8wKm-l6v9U-01452-00337470-00337684 there's ever anything I can do for you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01453-00337685-00337858 let me know +B8wKm-l6v9U-01454-00337859-00338110 I always appreciated the fairness with +B8wKm-l6v9U-01455-00338111-00338345 which you ran your committee and that's +B8wKm-l6v9U-01456-00338346-00338554 the kind of temperament and view that I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01457-00338555-00338729 would bring as an independent legislator +B8wKm-l6v9U-01458-00338730-00338903 to the state of Wisconsin and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01459-00338904-00339149 representing the uh this particular +B8wKm-l6v9U-01460-00339150-00339479 District uh I can I can tell you I am +B8wKm-l6v9U-01461-00339480-00339743 part of the reason I am running is I am +B8wKm-l6v9U-01462-00339744-00340084 so disgusted with the inability of with +B8wKm-l6v9U-01463-00340085-00340247 all the backbiting with all the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01464-00340248-00340421 mudslinging with the inability of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01465-00340422-00340715 legislators to just simply sit down talk +B8wKm-l6v9U-01466-00340716-00340913 to each other and come up with common +B8wKm-l6v9U-01467-00340914-00341104 sense solutions to the problems facing +B8wKm-l6v9U-01468-00341105-00341339 the state of Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-01469-00341340-00341530 um I I've told you before I've met with +B8wKm-l6v9U-01470-00341531-00341717 all the all the town boards local +B8wKm-l6v9U-01471-00341718-00341897 governments you know they're not +B8wKm-l6v9U-01472-00341898-00342101 Democrats they're not Republicans that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01473-00342102-00342304 go to sit on those boards they're just +B8wKm-l6v9U-01474-00342305-00342503 your neighbors that are trying to do the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01475-00342504-00342682 best for their communities and quite +B8wKm-l6v9U-01476-00342683-00342880 frankly I think we'd do a whole lot +B8wKm-l6v9U-01477-00342881-00343091 better if we didn't send Democrats and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01478-00343092-00343319 Republicans to the state legislature I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01479-00343320-00343475 think we'd do a whole lot better by +B8wKm-l6v9U-01480-00343476-00343667 sending non-partisans to the state +B8wKm-l6v9U-01481-00343668-00343901 legislature and I think the the the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01482-00343902-00344153 quality of the conversation and the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01483-00344154-00344345 quality of the decisions that would come +B8wKm-l6v9U-01484-00344346-00344543 out of that would be a whole heck of a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01485-00344544-00344693 lot better than what we've seen over the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01486-00344694-00344879 last couple of years +B8wKm-l6v9U-01487-00344880-00345179 thank you Amy would you share with us +B8wKm-l6v9U-01488-00345180-00345377 your thoughts and maybe what you would +B8wKm-l6v9U-01489-00345378-00345527 have done different +B8wKm-l6v9U-01490-00345528-00345691 um I do consider myself a good listener +B8wKm-l6v9U-01491-00345692-00345958 so for me I think sometimes it's about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01492-00345959-00346132 more of the listening process than the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01493-00346133-00346403 speaking process and I do agree with +B8wKm-l6v9U-01494-00346404-00346643 Chet I'm not a fan of the mudslinging so +B8wKm-l6v9U-01495-00346644-00346804 I want people to know that if I'm there +B8wKm-l6v9U-01496-00346805-00346967 my door will be open to anybody that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01497-00346968-00347117 comes to that capital and wants to sit +B8wKm-l6v9U-01498-00347118-00347304 and talk whether they have an adverse +B8wKm-l6v9U-01499-00347305-00347537 opinion to mine or not they're welcome +B8wKm-l6v9U-01500-00347538-00347801 and I will not judge them and I will not +B8wKm-l6v9U-01501-00347802-00348023 belittle them I I don't feel there's a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01502-00348024-00348310 place for it I I I'm ready for the fact +B8wKm-l6v9U-01503-00348311-00348532 that I gotta have some strong skin I'm +B8wKm-l6v9U-01504-00348533-00348869 pretty sure that if I get there yeah I'm +B8wKm-l6v9U-01505-00348870-00349108 going to see a lot of animosity at times +B8wKm-l6v9U-01506-00349109-00349295 but I think there's also a way to bring +B8wKm-l6v9U-01507-00349296-00349601 that temperament down by continuing to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01508-00349602-00349745 just treat others the way you want to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01509-00349746-00349960 treated and if somebody's yelling try +B8wKm-l6v9U-01510-00349961-00350141 and get them to calm down don't continue +B8wKm-l6v9U-01511-00350142-00350389 to try and yell back or just keep going +B8wKm-l6v9U-01512-00350390-00350591 sometimes maybe it's time for a quick +B8wKm-l6v9U-01513-00350592-00350747 break so you can get your thoughts +B8wKm-l6v9U-01514-00350748-00350939 together and come back respectively and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01515-00350940-00351160 talk to each other so there's a lot of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01516-00351161-00351293 things that I think could be done +B8wKm-l6v9U-01517-00351294-00351454 differently of course I'm looking +B8wKm-l6v9U-01518-00351455-00351628 forward to hopefully taking on that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01519-00351629-00351803 challenge for the people I don't agree +B8wKm-l6v9U-01520-00351804-00352001 or disagree with him because you excuse +B8wKm-l6v9U-01521-00352002-00352325 me on the partisan issue it does bring +B8wKm-l6v9U-01522-00352326-00352480 up a fair point I mean you think about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01523-00352481-00352732 the fact that when you go to Madison you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01524-00352733-00352949 have to choose a caucus either you are +B8wKm-l6v9U-01525-00352950-00353117 sitting in the Republican caucus or you +B8wKm-l6v9U-01526-00353118-00353284 are sitting in the Democrat Caucus there +B8wKm-l6v9U-01527-00353285-00353477 is not actually an independent caucus or +B8wKm-l6v9U-01528-00353478-00353632 nonpartisan caucus +B8wKm-l6v9U-01529-00353633-00353908 so you know I see his point but +B8wKm-l6v9U-01530-00353909-00354119 eventually you have to right now the way +B8wKm-l6v9U-01531-00354120-00354263 it's set up you have to make that choice +B8wKm-l6v9U-01532-00354264-00354628 So based on My Views and being more of a +B8wKm-l6v9U-01533-00354629-00354839 conservative person I am running on the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01534-00354840-00355001 Republican ticket but I would love it if +B8wKm-l6v9U-01535-00355002-00355156 I could go down there and not see ours +B8wKm-l6v9U-01536-00355157-00355319 and D's on everybody's foreheads and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01537-00355320-00355439 actually just see everybody's an +B8wKm-l6v9U-01538-00355440-00355571 individual who wants what's best for +B8wKm-l6v9U-01539-00355572-00355673 Wisconsin +B8wKm-l6v9U-01540-00355674-00355987 thank you and as we are approaching time +B8wKm-l6v9U-01541-00355988-00356393 I'll give you each a minute to share +B8wKm-l6v9U-01542-00356394-00356573 with us any additional thoughts that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01543-00356574-00356801 maybe you didn't feel we were able to to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01544-00356802-00357017 share out with the group today so Chet I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01545-00357018-00357275 will start with you yes uh first of all +B8wKm-l6v9U-01546-00357276-00357419 I'd like to thank the chamber for doing +B8wKm-l6v9U-01547-00357420-00357671 this this is what government ought to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01548-00357672-00357815 all about +B8wKm-l6v9U-01549-00357816-00358037 um I I only wish that we had more Civic +B8wKm-l6v9U-01550-00358038-00358193 organizations like the chamber that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01551-00358194-00358349 would do this and give the people of the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01552-00358350-00358571 district an opportunity to see Amy and I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01553-00358572-00358943 and make a decision for themselves I'm +B8wKm-l6v9U-01554-00358944-00359230 running as a common sense independent +B8wKm-l6v9U-01555-00359231-00359578 you know the the older I've gotten the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01556-00359579-00359956 The more I've appreciated the advice +B8wKm-l6v9U-01557-00359957-00360137 that was given to us +B8wKm-l6v9U-01558-00360138-00360454 by our very first President John John or +B8wKm-l6v9U-01559-00360455-00360706 George Washington and it's farewell +B8wKm-l6v9U-01560-00360707-00360934 addressed to the nation he said don't +B8wKm-l6v9U-01561-00360935-00361282 form political parties and it's time I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01562-00361283-00361523 think that we started listening to um uh +B8wKm-l6v9U-01563-00361524-00361810 taking up his his advice and I know Amy +B8wKm-l6v9U-01564-00361811-00361943 has talked about well you have to be +B8wKm-l6v9U-01565-00361944-00362099 part of it you have to be part of party +B8wKm-l6v9U-01566-00362100-00362327 you have to be part of a caucus well I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01567-00362328-00362501 had a conversation with an independent +B8wKm-l6v9U-01568-00362502-00362645 legislator from the state of Alaska +B8wKm-l6v9U-01569-00362646-00362945 early in this campaign and in Alaska +B8wKm-l6v9U-01570-00362946-00363197 there's a 40-member house and in that +B8wKm-l6v9U-01571-00363198-00363425 house four of them are Independents and +B8wKm-l6v9U-01572-00363426-00363599 those four Independents with a bunch of +B8wKm-l6v9U-01573-00363600-00363808 Democrats and some Republicans make up +B8wKm-l6v9U-01574-00363809-00364013 the ruling majority and that's what I +B8wKm-l6v9U-01575-00364014-00364187 think we need to have I think we need to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01576-00364188-00364397 bring a bit of Alaska right here to the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01577-00364398-00364715 state of Wisconsin thank you Amy share +B8wKm-l6v9U-01578-00364716-00364997 with us some closing thoughts um well +B8wKm-l6v9U-01579-00364998-00365225 much like chat I would say that I am to +B8wKm-l6v9U-01580-00365226-00365441 a common sense approach person I think +B8wKm-l6v9U-01581-00365442-00365567 one thing to keep in mind when you're +B8wKm-l6v9U-01582-00365568-00365771 talking about common sense is how did +B8wKm-l6v9U-01583-00365772-00365977 you come to realize that Common Sense +B8wKm-l6v9U-01584-00365978-00366245 mine is going to be based on my entire +B8wKm-l6v9U-01585-00366246-00366406 life being spent in the 27th district +B8wKm-l6v9U-01586-00366407-00366604 from the time I was a little girl to the +B8wKm-l6v9U-01587-00366605-00366784 time I was a teenager marrying my +B8wKm-l6v9U-01588-00366785-00366989 husband and now raising my children I've +B8wKm-l6v9U-01589-00366990-00367217 watched the 27th District grow and been +B8wKm-l6v9U-01590-00367218-00367360 a part of it the entire time I've 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+B9r5mlNY9uM-00158-00044541-00044858 annex number 19 formally defined utf-32 +B9r5mlNY9uM-00159-00044859-00045245 for unicode 3x march 2001 +B9r5mlNY9uM-00160-00045246-00045668 last updated March 2002 registration of +B9r5mlNY9uM-00161-00045669-00046151 new char sets utf-32 utf-32 b e utf-32 +B9r5mlNY9uM-00162-00046152-00046502 le announcement of utf-32 being added to +B9r5mlNY9uM-00163-00046503-00046974 the Jana charset registry April 2002 +B9sqXlEA45g-00000-00000016-00000223 pam frank welcome to the plant yourself +B9sqXlEA45g-00001-00000224-00000351 podcast +B9sqXlEA45g-00002-00000352-00000519 thank you howie i'm actually very +B9sqXlEA45g-00003-00000520-00000678 excited to be here +B9sqXlEA45g-00004-00000679-00000927 yeah we're going to talk about uh saving +B9sqXlEA45g-00005-00000927-00001119 the environment +B9sqXlEA45g-00006-00001120-00001358 right and we were we were just chatting +B9sqXlEA45g-00007-00001359-00001535 before about like we're recording this +B9sqXlEA45g-00008-00001536-00001574 like +B9sqXlEA45g-00009-00001575-00001863 two two or three days after two days +B9sqXlEA45g-00010-00001864-00001982 after the uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00011-00001984-00002310 the insurrection coup riot things and +B9sqXlEA45g-00012-00002311-00002423 kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-00013-00002424-00002599 the weight of history and how people +B9sqXlEA45g-00014-00002600-00002791 view like +B9sqXlEA45g-00015-00002792-00002966 whatever's happening now just seems to +B9sqXlEA45g-00016-00002967-00003199 be so normal and like it's always been +B9sqXlEA45g-00017-00003200-00003367 and then something comes along +B9sqXlEA45g-00018-00003368-00003670 and really shakes us up and i think that +B9sqXlEA45g-00019-00003671-00003735 i think that's +B9sqXlEA45g-00020-00003736-00004047 kind of an interesting framing +B9sqXlEA45g-00021-00004047-00004311 for talking about environment and what +B9sqXlEA45g-00022-00004312-00004470 the potential is for environmental +B9sqXlEA45g-00023-00004471-00004551 healing and what +B9sqXlEA45g-00024-00004552-00004799 what the costs are you know what's what +B9sqXlEA45g-00025-00004800-00004895 are the risks +B9sqXlEA45g-00026-00004896-00005206 you know we're there's a lot of denial +B9sqXlEA45g-00027-00005207-00005518 about what's what's happening but um +B9sqXlEA45g-00028-00005519-00005663 let's let's just let's start with you +B9sqXlEA45g-00029-00005664-00005902 tell us what you do +B9sqXlEA45g-00030-00005903-00006167 and then we can kind of get into it okay +B9sqXlEA45g-00031-00006168-00006231 um +B9sqXlEA45g-00032-00006232-00006559 sounds good so what do i do so i +B9sqXlEA45g-00033-00006559-00006934 um professionally um i am i work in an +B9sqXlEA45g-00034-00006936-00007159 energy consulting +B9sqXlEA45g-00035-00007159-00007423 for the last nine years um i'm a vice +B9sqXlEA45g-00036-00007423-00007519 president there +B9sqXlEA45g-00037-00007520-00007767 uh and it's a it's a kind of a unique +B9sqXlEA45g-00038-00007768-00007831 place +B9sqXlEA45g-00039-00007831-00008134 uh that i'm very fortunate +B9sqXlEA45g-00040-00008136-00008351 to have landed there because it gives me +B9sqXlEA45g-00041-00008352-00008446 a lot of +B9sqXlEA45g-00042-00008447-00008687 i think creative freedom to when you +B9sqXlEA45g-00043-00008688-00008831 work for a consulting practice and you +B9sqXlEA45g-00044-00008832-00008983 want to work on certain things the name +B9sqXlEA45g-00045-00008984-00009103 of the game is always trying to find +B9sqXlEA45g-00046-00009104-00009246 someone to pay you for what you want to +B9sqXlEA45g-00047-00009247-00009278 do +B9sqXlEA45g-00048-00009279-00009606 right and uh and and +B9sqXlEA45g-00049-00009607-00009839 being there uh it's a firm called gable +B9sqXlEA45g-00050-00009840-00010014 associates has also enabled +B9sqXlEA45g-00051-00010015-00010391 me to start um i seem to be kind of a +B9sqXlEA45g-00052-00010392-00010478 serial +B9sqXlEA45g-00053-00010479-00010887 entrepreneur in some broad way uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00054-00010888-00011278 so i've been able to start a a coalition +B9sqXlEA45g-00055-00011279-00011503 that um that focuses on the +B9sqXlEA45g-00056-00011504-00011719 electrification of transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-00057-00011720-00012055 and and uh and gable kind of manages +B9sqXlEA45g-00058-00012056-00012095 that +B9sqXlEA45g-00059-00012096-00012406 so i in my daily um +B9sqXlEA45g-00060-00012407-00012719 routine i spend quite a bit of time +B9sqXlEA45g-00061-00012720-00013022 focusing on electrifying transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-00062-00013023-00013271 um and the group is called charge evc +B9sqXlEA45g-00063-00013272-00013343 and it's a +B9sqXlEA45g-00064-00013344-00013543 it's a not-for-profit group of very +B9sqXlEA45g-00065-00013544-00013727 strange bed fellows +B9sqXlEA45g-00066-00013728-00014030 um not-for-profit environmental groups +B9sqXlEA45g-00067-00014031-00014327 consumer advocates utilities +B9sqXlEA45g-00068-00014328-00014599 um charging companies car companies i +B9sqXlEA45g-00069-00014600-00014766 mean just strange bad fellows +B9sqXlEA45g-00070-00014768-00015071 i like to say everybody with big oil um +B9sqXlEA45g-00071-00015072-00015366 and uh and then i also with the gable +B9sqXlEA45g-00072-00015368-00015471 hat on them i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-00073-00015472-00015655 very much involved in innovative +B9sqXlEA45g-00074-00015656-00015838 technologies uh like +B9sqXlEA45g-00075-00015840-00016015 solar that i've been involved with for +B9sqXlEA45g-00076-00016016-00016150 25 years +B9sqXlEA45g-00077-00016151-00016463 and battery storage and offshore wind +B9sqXlEA45g-00078-00016464-00016719 and these things are all related and so +B9sqXlEA45g-00079-00016720-00016830 they make sense to me +B9sqXlEA45g-00080-00016831-00017063 because they're all about um reducing +B9sqXlEA45g-00081-00017064-00017319 carbon at the end of the day which has +B9sqXlEA45g-00082-00017320-00017527 kind of been when you say what do you do +B9sqXlEA45g-00083-00017528-00017830 i guess i try to place bourbon +B9sqXlEA45g-00084-00017831-00018103 and mitigate carbon that's kind of been +B9sqXlEA45g-00085-00018104-00018183 um +B9sqXlEA45g-00086-00018184-00018550 the common theme of my career uh-huh +B9sqXlEA45g-00087-00018551-00018839 and so when when did you first realize +B9sqXlEA45g-00088-00018840-00019014 that carbon was a thing that we had to +B9sqXlEA45g-00089-00019015-00019158 worry about +B9sqXlEA45g-00090-00019159-00019391 yeah so that's a kind of a funny story +B9sqXlEA45g-00091-00019392-00019543 it's something i like to share a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-00092-00019544-00019663 with younger people +B9sqXlEA45g-00093-00019664-00019967 um because i was one of those uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00094-00019968-00020230 people that i was very sort of uh late +B9sqXlEA45g-00095-00020231-00020294 bloomer +B9sqXlEA45g-00096-00020295-00020550 uh and it took me a really long time to +B9sqXlEA45g-00097-00020551-00020735 figure out or to really +B9sqXlEA45g-00098-00020736-00020975 stumble upon a passion and it really was +B9sqXlEA45g-00099-00020976-00021086 a stumble upon +B9sqXlEA45g-00100-00021087-00021319 so i was forced when i went to work as a +B9sqXlEA45g-00101-00021320-00021527 jewish community organizer +B9sqXlEA45g-00102-00021528-00021903 um in the 1990s i was and i said forced +B9sqXlEA45g-00103-00021904-00021943 i mean +B9sqXlEA45g-00104-00021944-00022199 it was nothing i was interested in my +B9sqXlEA45g-00105-00022200-00022367 late chairman +B9sqXlEA45g-00106-00022368-00022599 kind of insisted that the jewish +B9sqXlEA45g-00107-00022600-00022830 community get on the map with regard to +B9sqXlEA45g-00108-00022831-00023039 um environmental issues and i just +B9sqXlEA45g-00109-00023040-00023207 remember sitting there my first day on +B9sqXlEA45g-00110-00023208-00023383 the job he said that to me and i just +B9sqXlEA45g-00111-00023384-00023599 thought +B9sqXlEA45g-00112-00023600-00023791 not what i'm interested in but it's my +B9sqXlEA45g-00113-00023792-00023942 job so i have to do it +B9sqXlEA45g-00114-00023943-00024383 but that was 1992 and in 1992 +B9sqXlEA45g-00115-00024384-00024607 um there was something sorry there was +B9sqXlEA45g-00116-00024608-00024686 something uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00117-00024687-00024814 interesting that happened it was the +B9sqXlEA45g-00118-00024815-00025135 first earth summit in rio de janeiro +B9sqXlEA45g-00119-00025136-00025455 and um +B9sqXlEA45g-00120-00025456-00025655 a lot of information started to come out +B9sqXlEA45g-00121-00025656-00025822 about climate change +B9sqXlEA45g-00122-00025823-00026134 um and so as part of my job i started +B9sqXlEA45g-00123-00026135-00026270 reading about this because +B9sqXlEA45g-00124-00026272-00026439 when the jewish community wants to +B9sqXlEA45g-00125-00026439-00026655 engage in issues +B9sqXlEA45g-00126-00026656-00026951 that are not specifically jewish they +B9sqXlEA45g-00127-00026952-00027087 typically look to do it +B9sqXlEA45g-00128-00027088-00027327 in in cooperation with other faith +B9sqXlEA45g-00129-00027327-00027399 groups +B9sqXlEA45g-00130-00027400-00027583 right and they just look around and +B9sqXlEA45g-00131-00027583-00027743 presbyterians and methodist +B9sqXlEA45g-00132-00027744-00027990 catholics you know and and work together +B9sqXlEA45g-00133-00027991-00028151 on something like immigration as an +B9sqXlEA45g-00134-00028152-00028199 example +B9sqXlEA45g-00135-00028200-00028495 right uh so i started sniffing around +B9sqXlEA45g-00136-00028495-00028727 and i found that there were a group of +B9sqXlEA45g-00137-00028727-00029062 uh of +B9sqXlEA45g-00138-00029063-00029287 protestants that actually consider +B9sqXlEA45g-00139-00029288-00029495 themselves interfaith which i kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-00140-00029495-00029702 joked with them about i'm like you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00141-00029704-00029887 you need some jews and +B9sqXlEA45g-00142-00029888-00030079 you know some muslims and some catholics +B9sqXlEA45g-00143-00030080-00030246 to really make this into faith but they +B9sqXlEA45g-00144-00030247-00030431 thought they were in your faith +B9sqXlEA45g-00145-00030432-00030631 and they had gone to this earth summit +B9sqXlEA45g-00146-00030632-00030783 that's really +B9sqXlEA45g-00147-00030783-00031070 how i i got um involved in this it was +B9sqXlEA45g-00148-00031072-00031246 forced upon me +B9sqXlEA45g-00149-00031247-00031462 i started reading which is always +B9sqXlEA45g-00150-00031463-00031599 dangerous +B9sqXlEA45g-00151-00031600-00031846 and started um it was sort of like +B9sqXlEA45g-00152-00031847-00032102 watching that pot of water slowly boil +B9sqXlEA45g-00153-00032103-00032343 you know with the frog realizing most +B9sqXlEA45g-00154-00032344-00032462 people aren't going to pay attention to +B9sqXlEA45g-00155-00032463-00032599 the fact that our carbon emissions are +B9sqXlEA45g-00156-00032600-00032799 rising in 1992 because there was really +B9sqXlEA45g-00157-00032800-00032839 no +B9sqXlEA45g-00158-00032840-00033183 impact that you could see but +B9sqXlEA45g-00159-00033184-00033374 i mean i remember sort of being +B9sqXlEA45g-00160-00033375-00033518 environmentally aware +B9sqXlEA45g-00161-00033519-00033767 at that time and carbon was not on my +B9sqXlEA45g-00162-00033768-00034039 radar at all it was like acid rain +B9sqXlEA45g-00163-00034040-00034351 and ozone layer and maybe some you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00164-00034352-00034615 junk in the oceans but carbon i don't i +B9sqXlEA45g-00165-00034616-00034671 think it was +B9sqXlEA45g-00166-00034672-00034911 only in the last 10 15 years that i was +B9sqXlEA45g-00167-00034912-00034990 aware +B9sqXlEA45g-00168-00034991-00035231 that this was like a real big issue and +B9sqXlEA45g-00169-00035232-00035359 so you you were like +B9sqXlEA45g-00170-00035360-00035623 you know 30 years ago essentially you +B9sqXlEA45g-00171-00035624-00035662 got +B9sqXlEA45g-00172-00035663-00035918 caught on yeah it's always it's funny +B9sqXlEA45g-00173-00035919-00036159 though how like i always wonder about +B9sqXlEA45g-00174-00036160-00036479 why like different things kind of appeal +B9sqXlEA45g-00175-00036480-00036615 to different people right +B9sqXlEA45g-00176-00036616-00036871 so i have no explanation and i've +B9sqXlEA45g-00177-00036872-00037007 thought about it a lot about +B9sqXlEA45g-00178-00037008-00037311 why it was this why it was this karma +B9sqXlEA45g-00179-00037312-00037527 thing that captured my imagination well +B9sqXlEA45g-00180-00037528-00037774 what what where what did you see +B9sqXlEA45g-00181-00037775-00037959 that made you say this is this is a +B9sqXlEA45g-00182-00037960-00038190 serious issue +B9sqXlEA45g-00183-00038191-00038415 well i i think you know i've always been +B9sqXlEA45g-00184-00038416-00038599 fascinated now it's funny when you were +B9sqXlEA45g-00185-00038600-00038711 talking about +B9sqXlEA45g-00186-00038712-00039095 um uh the environment you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00187-00039096-00039279 i i always i can't i don't like that +B9sqXlEA45g-00188-00039280-00039487 word um the reason i don't like that +B9sqXlEA45g-00189-00039488-00039535 word +B9sqXlEA45g-00190-00039536-00039830 is because if i always feel like it it +B9sqXlEA45g-00191-00039831-00039871 puts +B9sqXlEA45g-00192-00039872-00040118 human beings apart from something like +B9sqXlEA45g-00193-00040119-00040367 the environment is something we live in +B9sqXlEA45g-00194-00040368-00040718 right now but really it's it's all inter +B9sqXlEA45g-00195-00040719-00040943 intermingled and interlinked it's more i +B9sqXlEA45g-00196-00040944-00041143 like the word ecosystem right because +B9sqXlEA45g-00197-00041144-00041351 it's more holistic +B9sqXlEA45g-00198-00041352-00041711 and i i i guess i felt +B9sqXlEA45g-00199-00041712-00042095 um because i've always been awed by +B9sqXlEA45g-00200-00042096-00042258 this web of life and the +B9sqXlEA45g-00201-00042259-00042415 interconnectivity of all +B9sqXlEA45g-00202-00042416-00042639 things you know uh and spent a lot of +B9sqXlEA45g-00203-00042640-00042783 time thinking about that even as an +B9sqXlEA45g-00204-00042784-00042911 undergraduate +B9sqXlEA45g-00205-00042912-00043230 um i think what i realized is when i was +B9sqXlEA45g-00206-00043231-00043358 looking at carbon +B9sqXlEA45g-00207-00043359-00043543 that if this was something systemic +B9sqXlEA45g-00208-00043544-00043711 right it was something that happened +B9sqXlEA45g-00209-00043712-00043958 globally it was something that was kind +B9sqXlEA45g-00210-00043959-00044095 of creeping up on us +B9sqXlEA45g-00211-00044096-00044318 and it seemed like an extraordinarily +B9sqXlEA45g-00212-00044319-00044518 important and difficult problem +B9sqXlEA45g-00213-00044519-00044695 so now you could ask me what happened to +B9sqXlEA45g-00214-00044696-00044883 me in my past that i'd be attracted to +B9sqXlEA45g-00215-00044884-00045095 extraordinarily difficult +B9sqXlEA45g-00216-00045096-00045455 challenging problems but um i think that +B9sqXlEA45g-00217-00045456-00045487 was +B9sqXlEA45g-00218-00045488-00045727 part of what was so interesting to me +B9sqXlEA45g-00219-00045728-00045935 was also just the hubris of +B9sqXlEA45g-00220-00045936-00046183 my gosh performing this amazing +B9sqXlEA45g-00221-00046184-00046279 experiment +B9sqXlEA45g-00222-00046280-00046543 with our planet um you know for the +B9sqXlEA45g-00223-00046544-00046615 first time +B9sqXlEA45g-00224-00046616-00046823 human beings actually being able to +B9sqXlEA45g-00225-00046824-00046967 influence +B9sqXlEA45g-00226-00046968-00047390 the atmosphere and the ecosystems was +B9sqXlEA45g-00227-00047391-00047751 terrifying to me so what what did you +B9sqXlEA45g-00228-00047752-00047927 see as the potential +B9sqXlEA45g-00229-00047928-00048183 you know downstream effects like you +B9sqXlEA45g-00230-00048184-00048351 know now we've got +B9sqXlEA45g-00231-00048352-00048671 you know raging we're now everybody who +B9sqXlEA45g-00232-00048672-00048879 has the eyes to and the willingness to +B9sqXlEA45g-00233-00048880-00049030 look can see +B9sqXlEA45g-00234-00049031-00049311 what carbon in in our world has done the +B9sqXlEA45g-00235-00049312-00049407 excess +B9sqXlEA45g-00236-00049408-00049679 what were you seeing in the early 90s +B9sqXlEA45g-00237-00049680-00049727 that +B9sqXlEA45g-00238-00049728-00049958 you know like what were the doomsday +B9sqXlEA45g-00239-00049959-00050102 scenarios +B9sqXlEA45g-00240-00050103-00050271 the day after tomorrow is that you were +B9sqXlEA45g-00241-00050272-00050446 concerned about back then +B9sqXlEA45g-00242-00050447-00050695 actually you know it's funny i i think i +B9sqXlEA45g-00243-00050696-00050871 was more concerned about the things i +B9sqXlEA45g-00244-00050872-00051083 i couldn't foresee right the +B9sqXlEA45g-00245-00051084-00051263 unpredictability and this +B9sqXlEA45g-00246-00051264-00051582 this idea that as human beings we have +B9sqXlEA45g-00247-00051583-00051942 uh we're a little bit um blind when it +B9sqXlEA45g-00248-00051944-00052102 comes to +B9sqXlEA45g-00249-00052103-00052479 um log log logarithmic +B9sqXlEA45g-00250-00052479-00052742 thinking right like it's very hard we +B9sqXlEA45g-00251-00052744-00052887 think linearly right it's +B9sqXlEA45g-00252-00052888-00053182 very hard for us to comprehend and +B9sqXlEA45g-00253-00053183-00053350 understand +B9sqXlEA45g-00254-00053351-00053699 how things can jump from um +B9sqXlEA45g-00255-00053700-00053935 exponentially it's just not how we're +B9sqXlEA45g-00256-00053936-00054071 wired to think +B9sqXlEA45g-00257-00054072-00054391 and so i i think i was more +B9sqXlEA45g-00258-00054391-00054654 concerned by what we didn't know and +B9sqXlEA45g-00259-00054655-00054838 what we wouldn't easily be able to +B9sqXlEA45g-00260-00054839-00054887 predict +B9sqXlEA45g-00261-00054888-00055087 of course there were the things that +B9sqXlEA45g-00262-00055088-00055263 everyone understood which is higher +B9sqXlEA45g-00263-00055264-00055359 temperatures +B9sqXlEA45g-00264-00055360-00055582 you know more energy in the atmosphere +B9sqXlEA45g-00265-00055583-00055687 storms +B9sqXlEA45g-00266-00055688-00056047 flooding i mean this stuff we understood +B9sqXlEA45g-00267-00056048-00056247 but i think what was chilling to me was +B9sqXlEA45g-00268-00056248-00056350 all the stuff +B9sqXlEA45g-00269-00056351-00056542 um i think we were gonna have a really +B9sqXlEA45g-00270-00056544-00056687 hard time predicting +B9sqXlEA45g-00271-00056688-00056887 you know when you look out to the solar +B9sqXlEA45g-00272-00056888-00057087 system and the planets and you sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-00273-00057088-00057159 see this +B9sqXlEA45g-00274-00057160-00057494 really fine band that allows human life +B9sqXlEA45g-00275-00057495-00057711 to flourish +B9sqXlEA45g-00276-00057712-00058047 you get a little nervous about you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00277-00058048-00058519 flirting with the extremes on that band +B9sqXlEA45g-00278-00058520-00058687 that's so interesting because it's +B9sqXlEA45g-00279-00058688-00058863 totally not the answer i expected but it +B9sqXlEA45g-00280-00058864-00059023 makes so much sense +B9sqXlEA45g-00281-00059024-00059215 that you know the things that we should +B9sqXlEA45g-00282-00059216-00059359 be worried about are the unknown +B9sqXlEA45g-00283-00059360-00059511 unknowns +B9sqXlEA45g-00284-00059512-00059726 and it's like i think it's a testament +B9sqXlEA45g-00285-00059727-00059863 to both +B9sqXlEA45g-00286-00059864-00060111 like there are people who are so smart +B9sqXlEA45g-00287-00060112-00060479 that they can't conceive of unknowns +B9sqXlEA45g-00288-00060479-00060703 you know what i mean like they they just +B9sqXlEA45g-00289-00060704-00060799 think they have +B9sqXlEA45g-00290-00060800-00060982 and and there's people who are not smart +B9sqXlEA45g-00291-00060983-00061150 enough to realize it but like +B9sqXlEA45g-00292-00061151-00061415 to be where you are just be like i have +B9sqXlEA45g-00293-00061416-00061575 all this knowledge and i have the +B9sqXlEA45g-00294-00061576-00061694 humility +B9sqXlEA45g-00295-00061695-00062119 to understand that what i can't predict +B9sqXlEA45g-00296-00062120-00062375 is the real scare like when if you're +B9sqXlEA45g-00297-00062376-00062582 talking about risk management +B9sqXlEA45g-00298-00062583-00062719 you know working for a consulting +B9sqXlEA45g-00299-00062720-00062894 company that would be a terrible answer +B9sqXlEA45g-00300-00062895-00063023 to give to a client +B9sqXlEA45g-00301-00063024-00063215 right like yeah there's risk but i don't +B9sqXlEA45g-00302-00063216-00063350 even know what it could be like +B9sqXlEA45g-00303-00063351-00063519 they're not going to cut you a check for +B9sqXlEA45g-00304-00063520-00063759 that but to have the humility +B9sqXlEA45g-00305-00063760-00064038 to say like the unknown unknowns are the +B9sqXlEA45g-00306-00064039-00064191 things that we should worry about +B9sqXlEA45g-00307-00064191-00064406 that's that's that's quite remarkable +B9sqXlEA45g-00308-00064407-00064494 i'm very +B9sqXlEA45g-00309-00064495-00064799 i'm like really impressed +B9sqXlEA45g-00310-00064800-00065126 well i i don't know if uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00311-00065127-00065399 if it's the sort of wild imagination i +B9sqXlEA45g-00312-00065400-00065550 feel like i've always had +B9sqXlEA45g-00313-00065551-00065863 um ever since i was a kid but um +B9sqXlEA45g-00314-00065864-00066023 and i don't know if it's something +B9sqXlEA45g-00315-00066024-00066199 listen huma humility +B9sqXlEA45g-00316-00066200-00066447 is um i always think it's sort of an +B9sqXlEA45g-00317-00066448-00066582 essential +B9sqXlEA45g-00318-00066583-00066911 um characteristic for uh for us to be +B9sqXlEA45g-00319-00066912-00067087 carrying around because +B9sqXlEA45g-00320-00067088-00067255 and this may have something to do i was +B9sqXlEA45g-00321-00067256-00067455 thinking in anticipation of talking to +B9sqXlEA45g-00322-00067456-00067687 you i was thinking kind of about +B9sqXlEA45g-00323-00067688-00067887 why i've always been wired to think this +B9sqXlEA45g-00324-00067888-00068111 way and how that's kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-00325-00068112-00068367 flourished really kind of grown over the +B9sqXlEA45g-00326-00068368-00068526 years and i believe it or not +B9sqXlEA45g-00327-00068527-00068679 it sounds sort of funny i was thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00328-00068680-00068879 about back in +B9sqXlEA45g-00329-00068880-00069199 college um i was really interested in +B9sqXlEA45g-00330-00069200-00069367 medicine and i worked in a +B9sqXlEA45g-00331-00069368-00069575 in a biochemistry lab that was actually +B9sqXlEA45g-00332-00069576-00069735 studying clotting factors +B9sqXlEA45g-00333-00069736-00070071 um human clotting factors that allows +B9sqXlEA45g-00334-00070072-00070167 this +B9sqXlEA45g-00335-00070168-00070399 extraordinary thing to happen when you +B9sqXlEA45g-00336-00070400-00070526 injure yourself right +B9sqXlEA45g-00337-00070527-00070791 magically our blood plots and sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-00338-00070792-00071087 like that fine band i was talking about +B9sqXlEA45g-00339-00071088-00071287 it's always in a very very specific +B9sqXlEA45g-00340-00071288-00071438 balance if your blood's too thin you're +B9sqXlEA45g-00341-00071439-00071535 going to bleed out +B9sqXlEA45g-00342-00071536-00071711 but you do need it to clot if you have +B9sqXlEA45g-00343-00071712-00071838 injury right it's this +B9sqXlEA45g-00344-00071839-00072191 really fine band so in order to do this +B9sqXlEA45g-00345-00072192-00072479 and study this i was many mice died at +B9sqXlEA45g-00346-00072480-00072575 my hands +B9sqXlEA45g-00347-00072576-00072943 many um and uh i got +B9sqXlEA45g-00348-00072944-00073303 really into the weeds and very specific +B9sqXlEA45g-00349-00073304-00073591 about this amazing and very unknown +B9sqXlEA45g-00350-00073592-00073671 machinery +B9sqXlEA45g-00351-00073672-00073943 that's the human cell and its ability to +B9sqXlEA45g-00352-00073944-00074031 make um +B9sqXlEA45g-00353-00074032-00074303 proteins uh and cells that make specific +B9sqXlEA45g-00354-00074304-00074423 proteins and +B9sqXlEA45g-00355-00074424-00074591 why i've been thinking about this a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-00356-00074592-00074775 is because of covid and the +B9sqXlEA45g-00357-00074776-00074975 approach to the vaccinations and this +B9sqXlEA45g-00358-00074976-00075111 messenger rna +B9sqXlEA45g-00359-00075112-00075415 sort of look at vaccines which is +B9sqXlEA45g-00360-00075416-00075599 it's a very different approach but it's +B9sqXlEA45g-00361-00075600-00075775 really saying hey +B9sqXlEA45g-00362-00075776-00075975 we don't really understand the machinery +B9sqXlEA45g-00363-00075976-00076079 of the cell +B9sqXlEA45g-00364-00076080-00076294 we understand it works really well let's +B9sqXlEA45g-00365-00076295-00076511 just get it to do what we know it does +B9sqXlEA45g-00366-00076512-00076647 best which is +B9sqXlEA45g-00367-00076648-00076935 introduce this it's just a fascinating +B9sqXlEA45g-00368-00076936-00077126 and different approach +B9sqXlEA45g-00369-00077127-00077471 and i realize maybe when you spend time +B9sqXlEA45g-00370-00077472-00077887 like looking at the elegance of sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-00371-00077888-00078119 the our systems and our biological +B9sqXlEA45g-00372-00078120-00078255 systems you come away +B9sqXlEA45g-00373-00078256-00078526 really odd quite frankly you just come +B9sqXlEA45g-00374-00078527-00078711 away really odd if i could come up with +B9sqXlEA45g-00375-00078712-00078919 some great way to explain +B9sqXlEA45g-00376-00078920-00079294 you know what a what a t cell does to +B9sqXlEA45g-00377-00079295-00079647 produce a a lock and key mechanism +B9sqXlEA45g-00378-00079648-00079926 to form something that exactly is gonna +B9sqXlEA45g-00379-00079927-00080247 fit like a perfect combination to a safe +B9sqXlEA45g-00380-00080248-00080519 um to get to a result that prevents +B9sqXlEA45g-00381-00080520-00080582 illness +B9sqXlEA45g-00382-00080583-00080823 it's it's extraordinary what and we +B9sqXlEA45g-00383-00080824-00080991 don't really understand how that works +B9sqXlEA45g-00384-00080992-00081103 yeah +B9sqXlEA45g-00385-00081104-00081287 still all these years we don't fully +B9sqXlEA45g-00386-00081288-00081487 appreciate the immune response +B9sqXlEA45g-00387-00081488-00081662 and how that works that's not my field +B9sqXlEA45g-00388-00081663-00081791 at all but it's an +B9sqXlEA45g-00389-00081792-00082071 area that i have just been thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00390-00082072-00082255 about a lot lately and i realize maybe +B9sqXlEA45g-00391-00082256-00082455 part of walking around with a sense of +B9sqXlEA45g-00392-00082456-00082543 humility +B9sqXlEA45g-00393-00082544-00082726 um is part of walking around with a +B9sqXlEA45g-00394-00082727-00082862 sense of awe +B9sqXlEA45g-00395-00082863-00083055 right we're waking up every morning and +B9sqXlEA45g-00396-00083056-00083262 realizing all these little miracles +B9sqXlEA45g-00397-00083263-00083518 that happen under our nose you know how +B9sqXlEA45g-00398-00083519-00083615 we've noticed them +B9sqXlEA45g-00399-00083616-00084055 it was beautiful so so back to the 90s +B9sqXlEA45g-00400-00084056-00084343 you you've woken up to the the dangers +B9sqXlEA45g-00401-00084344-00084455 of flirting with +B9sqXlEA45g-00402-00084456-00084806 with the extremes of our atmosphere of +B9sqXlEA45g-00403-00084807-00084887 uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00404-00084888-00085399 of carbon and first summit in rio in 92 +B9sqXlEA45g-00405-00085400-00085735 but like when you look at +B9sqXlEA45g-00406-00085736-00086015 culture civilization politics like +B9sqXlEA45g-00407-00086016-00086103 everything +B9sqXlEA45g-00408-00086104-00086294 you could look around and see is going +B9sqXlEA45g-00409-00086295-00086487 in completely the wrong direction and +B9sqXlEA45g-00410-00086488-00086631 accelerating +B9sqXlEA45g-00411-00086632-00086871 in the wrong direction in terms of the +B9sqXlEA45g-00412-00086872-00087006 mantra of economic +B9sqXlEA45g-00413-00087007-00087294 growth of like bringing growth to third +B9sqXlEA45g-00414-00087295-00087406 world countries like +B9sqXlEA45g-00415-00087407-00087599 everything is producing more and more +B9sqXlEA45g-00416-00087600-00087847 carbon and nobody like +B9sqXlEA45g-00417-00087848-00088079 how did you like how do you not throw in +B9sqXlEA45g-00418-00088080-00088159 the towel +B9sqXlEA45g-00419-00088160-00088431 how did you how did you see like where +B9sqXlEA45g-00420-00088432-00088799 can we go from here +B9sqXlEA45g-00421-00088800-00089071 it seems impossible no no that so harry +B9sqXlEA45g-00422-00089072-00089191 that's actually +B9sqXlEA45g-00423-00089192-00089423 i think a really good question that +B9sqXlEA45g-00424-00089424-00089550 keeps a lot of people +B9sqXlEA45g-00425-00089551-00089759 from engaging in the issue because it's +B9sqXlEA45g-00426-00089760-00089935 just really over +B9sqXlEA45g-00427-00089936-00090215 yeah um and so i think you have to again +B9sqXlEA45g-00428-00090216-00090303 stay humble +B9sqXlEA45g-00429-00090304-00090543 on one person what can i do to affect +B9sqXlEA45g-00430-00090544-00090687 some change +B9sqXlEA45g-00431-00090688-00090887 um and so you start where you think you +B9sqXlEA45g-00432-00090888-00091126 can make the best contribution you can't +B9sqXlEA45g-00433-00091127-00091255 do everything +B9sqXlEA45g-00434-00091256-00091503 i'm i'm not i'm not going to be like the +B9sqXlEA45g-00435-00091504-00091679 scientist that invents a way to suck +B9sqXlEA45g-00436-00091680-00091831 carbon out of the atmosphere really +B9sqXlEA45g-00437-00091832-00092111 efficiently that's not what i do +B9sqXlEA45g-00438-00092112-00092375 um and as you get sort of smart about +B9sqXlEA45g-00439-00092376-00092543 where you can make your contributions +B9sqXlEA45g-00440-00092544-00092711 and sort of what the opportunities look +B9sqXlEA45g-00441-00092712-00092750 like +B9sqXlEA45g-00442-00092751-00093015 in front of you right and they try to +B9sqXlEA45g-00443-00093016-00093167 take things in little chunks +B9sqXlEA45g-00444-00093168-00093406 right to try to make progress i think +B9sqXlEA45g-00445-00093407-00093591 back in the 90s +B9sqXlEA45g-00446-00093592-00093943 i was in my 30s i was a really young +B9sqXlEA45g-00447-00093944-00094159 person in my 30s just in terms of my +B9sqXlEA45g-00448-00094160-00094415 emotional intellectual maturity +B9sqXlEA45g-00449-00094416-00094647 i was working for a jewish communal +B9sqXlEA45g-00450-00094648-00094735 organization +B9sqXlEA45g-00451-00094736-00094967 who yeah stumbles upon this this +B9sqXlEA45g-00452-00094968-00095199 terrifying prospect of carbon emissions +B9sqXlEA45g-00453-00095200-00095399 so what's a jew to do like what am i +B9sqXlEA45g-00454-00095400-00095591 going to do +B9sqXlEA45g-00455-00095592-00095855 so given where i was at the time i said +B9sqXlEA45g-00456-00095856-00095903 all right +B9sqXlEA45g-00457-00095904-00096055 you know i was doing community +B9sqXlEA45g-00458-00096056-00096311 organizing i'm like how how can we start +B9sqXlEA45g-00459-00096312-00096567 to infuse a sort of moral imperative in +B9sqXlEA45g-00460-00096568-00096750 the conversation +B9sqXlEA45g-00461-00096751-00097055 and and here's an interesting um i don't +B9sqXlEA45g-00462-00097056-00097199 think a lot of people realize this so +B9sqXlEA45g-00463-00097200-00097343 back in the early 90s +B9sqXlEA45g-00464-00097344-00097526 we had like if you remember that +B9sqXlEA45g-00465-00097527-00097759 nonsense with the contract on america +B9sqXlEA45g-00466-00097760-00097926 you called up the contract on america +B9sqXlEA45g-00467-00097927-00098150 that you know the newt gingrich thing +B9sqXlEA45g-00468-00098151-00098391 yeah remember all that and yeah part of +B9sqXlEA45g-00469-00098392-00098462 part of +B9sqXlEA45g-00470-00098463-00098735 the mission in there was a small thing +B9sqXlEA45g-00471-00098736-00098774 about +B9sqXlEA45g-00472-00098775-00099062 um really disabling the um endangered +B9sqXlEA45g-00473-00099063-00099199 species act +B9sqXlEA45g-00474-00099200-00099335 and what was interesting is that there +B9sqXlEA45g-00475-00099336-00099526 was a lot of noise coming from it wasn't +B9sqXlEA45g-00476-00099527-00099599 partisan +B9sqXlEA45g-00477-00099600-00099838 it was really industry driven so a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-00478-00099839-00099935 of +B9sqXlEA45g-00479-00099936-00100238 logging industries in the west and +B9sqXlEA45g-00480-00100239-00100582 in the um in the southwest and northwest +B9sqXlEA45g-00481-00100583-00100679 of the +B9sqXlEA45g-00482-00100680-00101038 country uh some democrat and republican +B9sqXlEA45g-00483-00101039-00101318 really were challenging the act and and +B9sqXlEA45g-00484-00101319-00101503 they were trying to dismantle it +B9sqXlEA45g-00485-00101504-00101831 well little-known facts um +B9sqXlEA45g-00486-00101832-00102079 the thing that stopped that cold was a +B9sqXlEA45g-00487-00102080-00102318 bunch of evangelicals +B9sqXlEA45g-00488-00102319-00102510 that organized the evangelical +B9sqXlEA45g-00489-00102511-00102654 environmental network +B9sqXlEA45g-00490-00102655-00102990 called in that basically came down +B9sqXlEA45g-00491-00102991-00103263 to the republicans as you know the +B9sqXlEA45g-00492-00103264-00103375 evangelicals +B9sqXlEA45g-00493-00103376-00103590 evangelicals are and have been a +B9sqXlEA45g-00494-00103591-00103710 somewhat important con +B9sqXlEA45g-00495-00103711-00103942 um constituency for the republicans +B9sqXlEA45g-00496-00103943-00104182 right and when they were in control +B9sqXlEA45g-00497-00104183-00104382 the evangelicals come down to washington +B9sqXlEA45g-00498-00104383-00104575 on mass and do you know what they say +B9sqXlEA45g-00499-00104576-00104839 to the republican leaders they say stop +B9sqXlEA45g-00500-00104840-00104951 it +B9sqXlEA45g-00501-00104952-00105207 don't monkey with god's creation +B9sqXlEA45g-00502-00105208-00105575 damaging these ecosystems and guess what +B9sqXlEA45g-00503-00105576-00105919 it just stopped wow right +B9sqXlEA45g-00504-00105920-00106102 and i remember sitting with that when i +B9sqXlEA45g-00505-00106103-00106319 learned about it and thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00506-00106320-00106623 damn that's interesting +B9sqXlEA45g-00507-00106624-00107023 and so um i realized this is sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-00508-00107024-00107399 my introduction to politics um +B9sqXlEA45g-00509-00107400-00107623 to try to change the culture and to try +B9sqXlEA45g-00510-00107624-00107807 to change the narrative +B9sqXlEA45g-00511-00107808-00108039 it helps sometimes like a little shock +B9sqXlEA45g-00512-00108040-00108199 and awe helps +B9sqXlEA45g-00513-00108200-00108463 so if i could go down to washington and +B9sqXlEA45g-00514-00108464-00108599 this is going to sound like a setup for +B9sqXlEA45g-00515-00108600-00108815 a bad joke it's not if i could stand +B9sqXlEA45g-00516-00108816-00108966 down in washington +B9sqXlEA45g-00517-00108967-00109239 in a congressman's office with a rabbi a +B9sqXlEA45g-00518-00109240-00109334 priest +B9sqXlEA45g-00519-00109335-00109727 a nun an imam like you know which i did +B9sqXlEA45g-00520-00109728-00109951 and talk about these things from a very +B9sqXlEA45g-00521-00109952-00110071 different perspective +B9sqXlEA45g-00522-00110072-00110383 first of all it would be remembered +B9sqXlEA45g-00523-00110383-00110590 right because it was something different +B9sqXlEA45g-00524-00110591-00110719 it was a different way to have the +B9sqXlEA45g-00525-00110720-00110823 conversation +B9sqXlEA45g-00526-00110824-00111166 so we started doing that and i felt like +B9sqXlEA45g-00527-00111167-00111327 that was a contribution i could make at +B9sqXlEA45g-00528-00111328-00111583 the time which is let's start to change +B9sqXlEA45g-00529-00111583-00111647 a little bit +B9sqXlEA45g-00530-00111648-00111951 the conversation and the culture um +B9sqXlEA45g-00531-00111952-00112183 and the language that we use to talk +B9sqXlEA45g-00532-00112183-00112415 about why this stuff is important +B9sqXlEA45g-00533-00112416-00112719 and so i formed a interfaith +B9sqXlEA45g-00534-00112720-00112966 environmental organization which i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-00535-00112967-00113183 thrilled still is going strong today +B9sqXlEA45g-00536-00113183-00113334 called green faith +B9sqXlEA45g-00537-00113335-00113583 and it was state-based again i'm in my +B9sqXlEA45g-00538-00113583-00113727 30s i'm in new jersey +B9sqXlEA45g-00539-00113728-00114047 i'm working through uh um you know uh +B9sqXlEA45g-00540-00114048-00114366 religious and spiritual communities +B9sqXlEA45g-00541-00114367-00114527 that seemed like something we can do and +B9sqXlEA45g-00542-00114528-00114702 i'm so proud of that work that's done +B9sqXlEA45g-00543-00114703-00114871 today because they're working not just +B9sqXlEA45g-00544-00114872-00115063 um in new jersey but nationally and +B9sqXlEA45g-00545-00115064-00115254 internationally so that's gone on +B9sqXlEA45g-00546-00115255-00115478 so that's that's that's so interesting +B9sqXlEA45g-00547-00115479-00115686 to talk about coming to a congress +B9sqXlEA45g-00548-00115688-00115983 with a bunch of faith leaders because +B9sqXlEA45g-00549-00115983-00116031 like +B9sqXlEA45g-00550-00116032-00116239 the you know i remember myself in one of +B9sqXlEA45g-00551-00116240-00116375 those days like +B9sqXlEA45g-00552-00116376-00116751 i'm like liberal progressive fact-based +B9sqXlEA45g-00553-00116752-00116966 and so we're and so and that's kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-00554-00116967-00117110 how the environmental movement +B9sqXlEA45g-00555-00117111-00117407 talks it's like you know cap and trade +B9sqXlEA45g-00556-00117408-00117607 what's the value of the wetland +B9sqXlEA45g-00557-00117608-00117783 how many you know the bill how many what +B9sqXlEA45g-00558-00117783-00117927 are the billions of dollars that are +B9sqXlEA45g-00559-00117928-00118047 going to be destroyed +B9sqXlEA45g-00560-00118048-00118310 by converting the wetland into highway +B9sqXlEA45g-00561-00118311-00118375 or +B9sqXlEA45g-00562-00118376-00118654 athletic fields or grazing and it's all +B9sqXlEA45g-00563-00118655-00118710 you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00564-00118711-00118910 there's there's intelligence and good +B9sqXlEA45g-00565-00118911-00119190 data there but it's not shock and awe +B9sqXlEA45g-00566-00119191-00119351 it's conv it's sort of converting +B9sqXlEA45g-00567-00119352-00119486 everything +B9sqXlEA45g-00568-00119488-00119799 to the common denominator of money as +B9sqXlEA45g-00569-00119800-00119983 opposed to the environmentalists are +B9sqXlEA45g-00570-00119983-00120063 saying god's +B9sqXlEA45g-00571-00120064-00120286 earth is sacred there's the money has +B9sqXlEA45g-00572-00120288-00120463 not come into this equation +B9sqXlEA45g-00573-00120464-00120814 yeah so that's an interesting thread to +B9sqXlEA45g-00574-00120815-00121007 pick up on because +B9sqXlEA45g-00575-00121008-00121334 you know i went from from really +B9sqXlEA45g-00576-00121335-00121590 um sort of passion and politics and +B9sqXlEA45g-00577-00121591-00121783 changing the narrative +B9sqXlEA45g-00578-00121783-00122110 to where i am now i mean i i ultimately +B9sqXlEA45g-00579-00122111-00122207 decided +B9sqXlEA45g-00580-00122208-00122463 once green faith was was doing its thing +B9sqXlEA45g-00581-00122464-00122558 i think i had +B9sqXlEA45g-00582-00122559-00122886 two i birthed the organization +B9sqXlEA45g-00583-00122888-00123247 and two children and master's degree all +B9sqXlEA45g-00584-00123248-00123471 inside of four years so i was a little +B9sqXlEA45g-00585-00123472-00123502 bit +B9sqXlEA45g-00586-00123503-00123854 nuts but once i kind of came out of all +B9sqXlEA45g-00587-00123855-00123951 of that +B9sqXlEA45g-00588-00123952-00124278 i i looked around and i said okay this +B9sqXlEA45g-00589-00124279-00124390 green faith thing i +B9sqXlEA45g-00590-00124391-00124614 i felt like it needed to take its next +B9sqXlEA45g-00591-00124615-00124783 step it really needed somebody with a +B9sqXlEA45g-00592-00124783-00124934 collar and i was not going to go to +B9sqXlEA45g-00593-00124935-00125078 rabbinical school +B9sqXlEA45g-00594-00125079-00125327 and i thought okay i i i want to look to +B9sqXlEA45g-00595-00125328-00125471 do something different +B9sqXlEA45g-00596-00125472-00125631 interestingly enough howie and this is +B9sqXlEA45g-00597-00125632-00125799 sort of funny i started +B9sqXlEA45g-00598-00125800-00125999 i really wanted since i've been talking +B9sqXlEA45g-00599-00126000-00126295 about ideas and promoting +B9sqXlEA45g-00600-00126296-00126614 um these things that weren't tangible +B9sqXlEA45g-00601-00126615-00126951 i really wanted to start making change i +B9sqXlEA45g-00602-00126952-00127102 could see +B9sqXlEA45g-00603-00127103-00127327 and just you know you kind of remain +B9sqXlEA45g-00604-00127328-00127414 open to +B9sqXlEA45g-00605-00127415-00127607 things and i was trying to figure out +B9sqXlEA45g-00606-00127608-00127878 what i would do next and along came +B9sqXlEA45g-00607-00127879-00128071 an opportunity with of all things a +B9sqXlEA45g-00608-00128072-00128254 solar company +B9sqXlEA45g-00609-00128255-00128566 and i just remember thinking to myself i +B9sqXlEA45g-00610-00128567-00128686 should do that +B9sqXlEA45g-00611-00128688-00128910 for i should learn about this i would +B9sqXlEA45g-00612-00128911-00129023 like to actually +B9sqXlEA45g-00613-00129024-00129239 see something at the end of the day +B9sqXlEA45g-00614-00129240-00129510 standing in a field or sitting on a roof +B9sqXlEA45g-00615-00129511-00129678 that's actually +B9sqXlEA45g-00616-00129679-00129951 helping solve the problem like that's +B9sqXlEA45g-00617-00129952-00130078 cool +B9sqXlEA45g-00618-00130079-00130454 and uh and i i and and so +B9sqXlEA45g-00619-00130455-00130663 since that time because i did that for +B9sqXlEA45g-00620-00130664-00130854 almost eight years i worked in a +B9sqXlEA45g-00621-00130855-00131127 in a for the for a private startup solo +B9sqXlEA45g-00622-00131128-00131231 company +B9sqXlEA45g-00623-00131232-00131471 um in startups again i'm just seemed to +B9sqXlEA45g-00624-00131472-00131575 be attracted to +B9sqXlEA45g-00625-00131576-00131823 to birthing things um you learn a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-00626-00131824-00131959 you have to learn a lot really quickly +B9sqXlEA45g-00627-00131960-00132295 you sort of learn or die +B9sqXlEA45g-00628-00132296-00132654 and um and even today in my position +B9sqXlEA45g-00629-00132655-00132990 at gable as a consultant i realize like +B9sqXlEA45g-00630-00132991-00133087 in order to affect +B9sqXlEA45g-00631-00133088-00133390 change you need both right you need +B9sqXlEA45g-00632-00133391-00133511 facts +B9sqXlEA45g-00633-00133512-00133823 you do need facts and analysis right and +B9sqXlEA45g-00634-00133824-00133863 and +B9sqXlEA45g-00635-00133864-00134095 and everything you advocate for has to +B9sqXlEA45g-00636-00134096-00134190 be grounded +B9sqXlEA45g-00637-00134191-00134454 in good science and good facts and good +B9sqXlEA45g-00638-00134455-00134551 data +B9sqXlEA45g-00639-00134552-00134863 but boy you also need passion you need +B9sqXlEA45g-00640-00134864-00134895 the +B9sqXlEA45g-00641-00134896-00135207 optics of the sort of um +B9sqXlEA45g-00642-00135208-00135495 you know very diverse interests which is +B9sqXlEA45g-00643-00135496-00135543 why +B9sqXlEA45g-00644-00135544-00135814 you know char gbc as an organization +B9sqXlEA45g-00645-00135815-00135895 works well +B9sqXlEA45g-00646-00135896-00136135 you know um it's so much easier for +B9sqXlEA45g-00647-00136136-00136287 politicians to +B9sqXlEA45g-00648-00136288-00136551 um to say yes to things when they don't +B9sqXlEA45g-00649-00136552-00136727 have a lot of people +B9sqXlEA45g-00650-00136728-00137087 um arguing against +B9sqXlEA45g-00651-00137088-00137247 right the best thing is to build a +B9sqXlEA45g-00652-00137248-00137431 really big tent and and and +B9sqXlEA45g-00653-00137432-00137743 this particular area of electrifying +B9sqXlEA45g-00654-00137744-00137959 transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-00655-00137960-00138199 in my mind as an organizer which i think +B9sqXlEA45g-00656-00138200-00138311 is where my heart is +B9sqXlEA45g-00657-00138312-00138551 was sort of like the mother lode for +B9sqXlEA45g-00658-00138552-00138751 community organizing +B9sqXlEA45g-00659-00138752-00138902 and getting different interests to the +B9sqXlEA45g-00660-00138903-00139078 table um +B9sqXlEA45g-00661-00139079-00139311 and but it does you know we do have to +B9sqXlEA45g-00662-00139312-00139575 have facts at our disposal to your point +B9sqXlEA45g-00663-00139576-00139823 and get into those conversations and +B9sqXlEA45g-00664-00139824-00139999 have that homework done +B9sqXlEA45g-00665-00140000-00140327 on the one hand but on the other hand +B9sqXlEA45g-00666-00140328-00140614 what drives change what drives you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00667-00140615-00140719 the passage of +B9sqXlEA45g-00668-00140720-00141054 laws right the changes in regulation +B9sqXlEA45g-00669-00141055-00141359 you gotta have a fair amount of +B9sqXlEA45g-00670-00141360-00141751 of passion and be able to tell a really +B9sqXlEA45g-00671-00141752-00141990 good story and i mean we've talked about +B9sqXlEA45g-00672-00141991-00142207 storytelling before +B9sqXlEA45g-00673-00142208-00142351 but you're not going to win hearts and +B9sqXlEA45g-00674-00142352-00142566 minds with facts and figures +B9sqXlEA45g-00675-00142567-00142766 all right you know and i mean the other +B9sqXlEA45g-00676-00142767-00143014 thing i found so interesting when i was +B9sqXlEA45g-00677-00143015-00143343 you know kind of looking at what you +B9sqXlEA45g-00678-00143344-00143495 were doing on facebook and you know you +B9sqXlEA45g-00679-00143496-00143654 have a lot of like you know pictures of +B9sqXlEA45g-00680-00143655-00143823 your family your chickens and stuff but +B9sqXlEA45g-00681-00143824-00143959 then there was also this other thing +B9sqXlEA45g-00682-00143960-00144151 that got me so interested +B9sqXlEA45g-00683-00144152-00144283 cause like when i think of +B9sqXlEA45g-00684-00144284-00144543 environmentalism i think about you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00685-00144544-00144759 hippies climbing trees in california +B9sqXlEA45g-00686-00144760-00145087 and not you know to prevent and +B9sqXlEA45g-00687-00145088-00145319 there's something beautiful about sort +B9sqXlEA45g-00688-00145320-00145551 of counterculture environmentalism about +B9sqXlEA45g-00689-00145552-00145678 back to the land +B9sqXlEA45g-00690-00145679-00145951 and yet you know we know that that's not +B9sqXlEA45g-00691-00145952-00146199 going to save us +B9sqXlEA45g-00692-00146200-00146351 right at least in the numbers that we +B9sqXlEA45g-00693-00146352-00146543 have right now that we we need some sort +B9sqXlEA45g-00694-00146544-00146739 of stop gaps and so like +B9sqXlEA45g-00695-00146740-00147071 electrification of vehicles like +B9sqXlEA45g-00696-00147072-00147359 clearly isn't the the end-all be-all +B9sqXlEA45g-00697-00147360-00147439 environmental +B9sqXlEA45g-00698-00147440-00147663 solution but it is something that can +B9sqXlEA45g-00699-00147664-00147759 really +B9sqXlEA45g-00700-00147760-00148095 slow things down can get a lot more +B9sqXlEA45g-00701-00148096-00148295 people on board getting them to start +B9sqXlEA45g-00702-00148296-00148383 thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00703-00148384-00148654 identifying as environmentalists and i +B9sqXlEA45g-00704-00148655-00148759 just read in the news +B9sqXlEA45g-00705-00148760-00149054 today that now officially the world's +B9sqXlEA45g-00706-00149055-00149239 richest human being +B9sqXlEA45g-00707-00149240-00149654 is an electric car magnate +B9sqXlEA45g-00708-00149655-00149831 you know it's funny when you're trying +B9sqXlEA45g-00709-00149832-00150078 to pick the things you want to focus on +B9sqXlEA45g-00710-00150079-00150399 i i did a back in when i was in solar +B9sqXlEA45g-00711-00150400-00150678 um we had done some analysis to really +B9sqXlEA45g-00712-00150679-00150743 figure out +B9sqXlEA45g-00713-00150744-00150935 where the biggest chunks of carbon were +B9sqXlEA45g-00714-00150936-00151087 coming from +B9sqXlEA45g-00715-00151088-00151399 and um and we were doing it for +B9sqXlEA45g-00716-00151400-00151607 the state of new jersey and our findings +B9sqXlEA45g-00717-00151608-00151766 were not dissimilar +B9sqXlEA45g-00718-00151767-00151935 to dissimilar it's a little different in +B9sqXlEA45g-00719-00151936-00152126 other states right but +B9sqXlEA45g-00720-00152127-00152414 in new jersey the majority of our carbon +B9sqXlEA45g-00721-00152415-00152478 emissions +B9sqXlEA45g-00722-00152479-00152695 come from the transportations that's +B9sqXlEA45g-00723-00152696-00152878 just a fact right +B9sqXlEA45g-00724-00152879-00153223 and i remember this was back in 2009. +B9sqXlEA45g-00725-00153224-00153487 i remember looking at that data and +B9sqXlEA45g-00726-00153488-00153647 thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00727-00153648-00153983 boy you know the idea of an electric car +B9sqXlEA45g-00728-00153984-00154151 and we had some electric cars back then +B9sqXlEA45g-00729-00154152-00154287 but they were more science experiment +B9sqXlEA45g-00730-00154288-00154471 and very fringy and the range was very +B9sqXlEA45g-00731-00154472-00154575 limited +B9sqXlEA45g-00732-00154576-00154775 and i remember talking to my colleague +B9sqXlEA45g-00733-00154776-00154935 at the solar company who now works with +B9sqXlEA45g-00734-00154936-00155031 me at gable +B9sqXlEA45g-00735-00155032-00155183 and i remember both of us kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-00736-00155184-00155351 rubbing our hands together and saying +B9sqXlEA45g-00737-00155352-00155607 man can't wait it's probably going to be +B9sqXlEA45g-00738-00155608-00155783 about four or five years +B9sqXlEA45g-00739-00155784-00156014 we know where the battery technology is +B9sqXlEA45g-00740-00156015-00156087 going but +B9sqXlEA45g-00741-00156088-00156487 as soon as we have electric cars +B9sqXlEA45g-00742-00156488-00156831 that are capable of mass market +B9sqXlEA45g-00743-00156832-00157031 appeal right they have the range that +B9sqXlEA45g-00744-00157032-00157143 most people want +B9sqXlEA45g-00745-00157144-00157343 they're affordable as soon as we get to +B9sqXlEA45g-00746-00157344-00157511 that point +B9sqXlEA45g-00747-00157512-00157751 that's what we want to work on and the +B9sqXlEA45g-00748-00157752-00157839 reason we +B9sqXlEA45g-00749-00157840-00158135 thought this was twofold a it's the +B9sqXlEA45g-00750-00158136-00158326 biggest chunk of the carbon in the state +B9sqXlEA45g-00751-00158327-00158719 and b cars are sexy +B9sqXlEA45g-00752-00158720-00159031 cars are easier right like my friends +B9sqXlEA45g-00753-00159032-00159247 that toll and energy efficiency +B9sqXlEA45g-00754-00159248-00159471 when i was in solar used to like bemoan +B9sqXlEA45g-00755-00159472-00159590 the fact that they could never get +B9sqXlEA45g-00756-00159591-00159743 anyone's attention you know whether it +B9sqXlEA45g-00757-00159744-00159983 was regulators or you know just +B9sqXlEA45g-00758-00159984-00160254 it's just not sexy i'm like solar panels +B9sqXlEA45g-00759-00160255-00160335 are sexy +B9sqXlEA45g-00760-00160336-00160711 like there's marketing involved right in +B9sqXlEA45g-00761-00160712-00160766 helping +B9sqXlEA45g-00762-00160767-00160990 people get excited about things and +B9sqXlEA45g-00763-00160991-00161199 what's so thrilling about electric +B9sqXlEA45g-00764-00161200-00161502 cars is there's so many different kind +B9sqXlEA45g-00765-00161503-00161702 of buyers out there +B9sqXlEA45g-00766-00161703-00161911 only one of those buyers is someone +B9sqXlEA45g-00767-00161912-00162095 who's like really into the environment +B9sqXlEA45g-00768-00162096-00162254 like you said the tree hug or the +B9sqXlEA45g-00769-00162255-00162535 right but there's like another woman or +B9sqXlEA45g-00770-00162536-00162719 man out there that's like +B9sqXlEA45g-00771-00162720-00162966 look i i've done the spreadsheet +B9sqXlEA45g-00772-00162967-00163095 analysis +B9sqXlEA45g-00773-00163096-00163407 for the lifetime costs of my car i come +B9sqXlEA45g-00774-00163408-00163639 out way ahead on electric +B9sqXlEA45g-00775-00163640-00163854 they buy for those reasons and then +B9sqXlEA45g-00776-00163855-00164014 there's people that are just like +B9sqXlEA45g-00777-00164015-00164278 real techies they just love the +B9sqXlEA45g-00778-00164279-00164383 technology +B9sqXlEA45g-00779-00164384-00164519 right and they're going to buy it for +B9sqXlEA45g-00780-00164520-00164766 those reasons and then you bump into +B9sqXlEA45g-00781-00164767-00164926 another fascinating core +B9sqXlEA45g-00782-00164927-00165231 cohort war veterans +B9sqXlEA45g-00783-00165232-00165487 war veterans who have had to defend +B9sqXlEA45g-00784-00165488-00165735 supply lines for oil +B9sqXlEA45g-00785-00165736-00166063 and die or watch their friends and +B9sqXlEA45g-00786-00166064-00166231 colleagues die +B9sqXlEA45g-00787-00166232-00166502 they're also a huge cohort of supporters +B9sqXlEA45g-00788-00166503-00166631 of electric cars +B9sqXlEA45g-00789-00166632-00166951 wow and i'm and i'm i'm guessing that +B9sqXlEA45g-00790-00166952-00167095 once you have an electric car +B9sqXlEA45g-00791-00167096-00167438 to some extent you have an identity so +B9sqXlEA45g-00792-00167439-00167559 we see this a lot you know in the +B9sqXlEA45g-00793-00167560-00167702 plant-based movement +B9sqXlEA45g-00794-00167703-00168071 around um like like you do a meatless +B9sqXlEA45g-00795-00168072-00168175 monday +B9sqXlEA45g-00796-00168176-00168390 and the vegans you know and the +B9sqXlEA45g-00797-00168391-00168566 environmentalists and the vegans go like +B9sqXlEA45g-00798-00168567-00168702 that's totally meaningless it's not +B9sqXlEA45g-00799-00168703-00168831 going to change their health +B9sqXlEA45g-00800-00168832-00169063 it's not going to change our consumption +B9sqXlEA45g-00801-00169064-00169175 right but it's like +B9sqXlEA45g-00802-00169176-00169343 this thing like you make a small +B9sqXlEA45g-00803-00169344-00169478 commitment +B9sqXlEA45g-00804-00169479-00169775 and all of a sudden saying yes to other +B9sqXlEA45g-00805-00169776-00169975 things makes more sense if you have your +B9sqXlEA45g-00806-00169976-00170263 your vault or your tesla then why not +B9sqXlEA45g-00807-00170264-00170478 get panels on your roof then why not say +B9sqXlEA45g-00808-00170479-00170583 hey you know what +B9sqXlEA45g-00809-00170584-00170711 we know what else looks really cool +B9sqXlEA45g-00810-00170712-00170943 going garbage free +B9sqXlEA45g-00811-00170944-00171271 so you are i agree a thousand percent +B9sqXlEA45g-00812-00171272-00171431 it's like a gateway drug +B9sqXlEA45g-00813-00171432-00171783 yes yes and um +B9sqXlEA45g-00814-00171784-00172095 listen for myself uh i always said +B9sqXlEA45g-00815-00172096-00172326 ever since i got into this this this +B9sqXlEA45g-00816-00172327-00172431 area of +B9sqXlEA45g-00817-00172432-00172631 eco system or environment or whatever we +B9sqXlEA45g-00818-00172632-00172799 want to call it +B9sqXlEA45g-00819-00172800-00173071 um i always said to myself every year as +B9sqXlEA45g-00820-00173072-00173143 part of my +B9sqXlEA45g-00821-00173144-00173326 resolution or my list of things i want +B9sqXlEA45g-00822-00173327-00173502 to do differently each year +B9sqXlEA45g-00823-00173503-00173807 i was going to incorporate one change in +B9sqXlEA45g-00824-00173808-00173895 my life +B9sqXlEA45g-00825-00173896-00174071 that made a difference in my carbon +B9sqXlEA45g-00826-00174072-00174311 emissions and you could +B9sqXlEA45g-00827-00174312-00174559 bet i couldn't wait until i could get an +B9sqXlEA45g-00828-00174560-00174647 electric car +B9sqXlEA45g-00829-00174648-00174935 now given the extreme weather we have in +B9sqXlEA45g-00830-00174936-00175143 new jersey now i might even be able to +B9sqXlEA45g-00831-00175144-00175199 get solar +B9sqXlEA45g-00832-00175200-00175414 panels because we've lost enough trees i +B9sqXlEA45g-00833-00175415-00175638 never really wanted to cut down +B9sqXlEA45g-00834-00175639-00175966 an 80 100 year old pine tree um room for +B9sqXlEA45g-00835-00175967-00176054 solar panels +B9sqXlEA45g-00836-00176055-00176502 yeah that's that sounds like it would +B9sqXlEA45g-00837-00176503-00176751 the math wouldn't work either but but we +B9sqXlEA45g-00838-00176752-00176847 lost them +B9sqXlEA45g-00839-00176848-00177111 quite frankly uh anyway so i but my +B9sqXlEA45g-00840-00177112-00177231 point is every year +B9sqXlEA45g-00841-00177232-00177471 whether it's it's like a low flow +B9sqXlEA45g-00842-00177472-00177566 showerhead +B9sqXlEA45g-00843-00177567-00177911 or composting or getting chickens +B9sqXlEA45g-00844-00177912-00178143 so i could eat eggs you know protein +B9sqXlEA45g-00845-00178144-00178271 from my backyard +B9sqXlEA45g-00846-00178272-00178487 until i got my electric car four years +B9sqXlEA45g-00847-00178488-00178678 ago which you know since i'm one of +B9sqXlEA45g-00848-00178679-00178838 these geeks that keeps track of her +B9sqXlEA45g-00849-00178839-00178983 carbon footprint +B9sqXlEA45g-00850-00178984-00179375 made this a big disproportionate impact +B9sqXlEA45g-00851-00179376-00179543 on my carbon emissions +B9sqXlEA45g-00852-00179544-00179807 um but you're right about it it is a +B9sqXlEA45g-00853-00179808-00179919 sort of identity +B9sqXlEA45g-00854-00179920-00180111 change what we want to be careful about +B9sqXlEA45g-00855-00180112-00180366 howie is that we don't want it to +B9sqXlEA45g-00856-00180367-00180559 and i saw this with the prius with the +B9sqXlEA45g-00857-00180560-00180878 prius the prius was a car for white +B9sqXlEA45g-00858-00180879-00181199 elite environmental people it just was i +B9sqXlEA45g-00859-00181200-00181383 mean we used to joke i had a prius we +B9sqXlEA45g-00860-00181384-00181502 used to joke that we should all get +B9sqXlEA45g-00861-00181503-00181623 together and +B9sqXlEA45g-00862-00181624-00181878 um drink chardonnay with our cars and +B9sqXlEA45g-00863-00181879-00182087 toast to how fabulous we all are +B9sqXlEA45g-00864-00182088-00182390 right i mean it felt like that yeah +B9sqXlEA45g-00865-00182391-00182663 and um what we really want to be careful +B9sqXlEA45g-00866-00182664-00182902 about why i'm so excited about 2021 and +B9sqXlEA45g-00867-00182903-00182999 2022 +B9sqXlEA45g-00868-00183000-00183319 for for new evs is +B9sqXlEA45g-00869-00183320-00183631 we're going to get cars and trucks +B9sqXlEA45g-00870-00183632-00183814 that are going to appeal to broader +B9sqXlEA45g-00871-00183815-00184102 segments of the population +B9sqXlEA45g-00872-00184103-00184343 and in one story i always love to tell i +B9sqXlEA45g-00873-00184344-00184438 was coming back +B9sqXlEA45g-00874-00184439-00184575 from a meeting in harrisburg +B9sqXlEA45g-00875-00184576-00184807 pennsylvania in the winter and i say in +B9sqXlEA45g-00876-00184808-00184990 the winter because the efficiency of a +B9sqXlEA45g-00877-00184991-00185199 battery in a car +B9sqXlEA45g-00878-00185200-00185495 is variable depending on temperature +B9sqXlEA45g-00879-00185496-00185663 depending on +B9sqXlEA45g-00880-00185664-00185975 how you drive but believe it or not that +B9sqXlEA45g-00881-00185976-00186190 that range if my car gets +B9sqXlEA45g-00882-00186191-00186599 230 miles of range on a charge +B9sqXlEA45g-00883-00186600-00186966 on a sunny 70 degree day +B9sqXlEA45g-00884-00186967-00187359 if it's a really cold day um that range +B9sqXlEA45g-00885-00187360-00187726 can go from 230 miles to about 180. +B9sqXlEA45g-00886-00187727-00187911 so i was driving back on a day like that +B9sqXlEA45g-00887-00187912-00188054 from harrisburg and i had to stop and +B9sqXlEA45g-00888-00188055-00188238 get some charge +B9sqXlEA45g-00889-00188239-00188583 and i drive a bright orange +B9sqXlEA45g-00890-00188584-00188911 chevy bolt with a b not vault bolt +B9sqXlEA45g-00891-00188912-00189214 and it's very conspicuous i don't like +B9sqXlEA45g-00892-00189215-00189366 orange but i got it +B9sqXlEA45g-00893-00189367-00189583 orange because i wanted people to notice +B9sqXlEA45g-00894-00189584-00189719 still people don't know that i'm driving +B9sqXlEA45g-00895-00189720-00189935 an electric car but anyway +B9sqXlEA45g-00896-00189936-00190150 pull into this rest stop in pennsylvania +B9sqXlEA45g-00897-00190151-00190319 off the turnpike +B9sqXlEA45g-00898-00190320-00190607 and right next to me literally right +B9sqXlEA45g-00899-00190608-00190735 next to me pulls in a +B9sqXlEA45g-00900-00190736-00191014 really large truck and you gotta +B9sqXlEA45g-00901-00191015-00191199 understand like there were many spaces +B9sqXlEA45g-00902-00191200-00191366 he could pull into it's like going into +B9sqXlEA45g-00903-00191367-00191559 a movie theater an empty movie theater +B9sqXlEA45g-00904-00191560-00191678 sitting down and having someone sit +B9sqXlEA45g-00905-00191679-00191823 right next to you it was weird and +B9sqXlEA45g-00906-00191824-00192047 creepy and i'm like before i got out of +B9sqXlEA45g-00907-00192048-00192223 the car i looked at him and i'm like oh +B9sqXlEA45g-00908-00192224-00192359 god i wonder if he's going to give me a +B9sqXlEA45g-00909-00192360-00192487 hard time +B9sqXlEA45g-00910-00192488-00192807 he get out of the car he watches me +B9sqXlEA45g-00911-00192808-00192895 charge +B9sqXlEA45g-00912-00192896-00193038 you know then i get ready to go into the +B9sqXlEA45g-00913-00193039-00193214 restaurant to get myself a cup of coffee +B9sqXlEA45g-00914-00193215-00193519 and he looks at me and he says +B9sqXlEA45g-00915-00193520-00193759 when are they going to make those for me +B9sqXlEA45g-00916-00193760-00193838 when are they +B9sqXlEA45g-00917-00193839-00194159 one of those for me and then we had a +B9sqXlEA45g-00918-00194160-00194399 great conversation +B9sqXlEA45g-00919-00194400-00194687 it underscored for me we don't want this +B9sqXlEA45g-00920-00194688-00194983 technology like what happened with solar +B9sqXlEA45g-00921-00194984-00195238 to become partisan you know hippies +B9sqXlEA45g-00922-00195239-00195407 solar panels democrat like +B9sqXlEA45g-00923-00195408-00195654 for some reason that all got lumped +B9sqXlEA45g-00924-00195655-00195919 together in some very strange +B9sqXlEA45g-00925-00195920-00196302 way yeah we want we want +B9sqXlEA45g-00926-00196303-00196607 cars and trucks that's everybody from +B9sqXlEA45g-00927-00196608-00196647 every +B9sqXlEA45g-00928-00196648-00197014 political persuasion and i know that's +B9sqXlEA45g-00929-00197015-00197183 happening i know there's but there's +B9sqXlEA45g-00930-00197184-00197359 kind of an emotional cost +B9sqXlEA45g-00931-00197360-00197678 to that because like when i had a prius +B9sqXlEA45g-00932-00197679-00197966 i was fabulous and it was you know like +B9sqXlEA45g-00933-00197967-00198087 there is some sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-00934-00198088-00198335 courage required to say i want i don't +B9sqXlEA45g-00935-00198336-00198526 want to be special about this i want +B9sqXlEA45g-00936-00198527-00198671 everyone +B9sqXlEA45g-00937-00198672-00199111 to have it um that's the i always laugh +B9sqXlEA45g-00938-00199112-00199247 i say look +B9sqXlEA45g-00939-00199248-00199454 none of the benefits and we have long +B9sqXlEA45g-00940-00199455-00199623 lists of benefits that we're able to +B9sqXlEA45g-00941-00199624-00199799 quantify very carefully +B9sqXlEA45g-00942-00199800-00200038 but none of the benefits come to +B9sqXlEA45g-00943-00200039-00200135 fruition +B9sqXlEA45g-00944-00200136-00200414 unless these cars are out on the roads +B9sqXlEA45g-00945-00200415-00200559 operating +B9sqXlEA45g-00946-00200560-00200895 on mass and plugging into our electric +B9sqXlEA45g-00947-00200896-00201111 distribution system right that's what +B9sqXlEA45g-00948-00201112-00201263 that's kind of what i was so curious +B9sqXlEA45g-00949-00201264-00201319 about with +B9sqXlEA45g-00950-00201320-00201502 like the work you're doing because it's +B9sqXlEA45g-00951-00201503-00201719 so on the ground +B9sqXlEA45g-00952-00201720-00202023 it's really unsexy although it supports +B9sqXlEA45g-00953-00202024-00202350 a very you know sexy exterior you know +B9sqXlEA45g-00954-00202351-00202407 i'm thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00955-00202408-00202719 um i follow a guy named tony saba if you +B9sqXlEA45g-00956-00202720-00202878 know who that is he has like rethinking +B9sqXlEA45g-00957-00202879-00202999 humanity +B9sqXlEA45g-00958-00203000-00203190 and he he has a slideshow he's basically +B9sqXlEA45g-00959-00203191-00203302 saying um +B9sqXlEA45g-00960-00203303-00203502 like we're at a point where a few +B9sqXlEA45g-00961-00203503-00203614 different +B9sqXlEA45g-00962-00203615-00203807 technological innovations have come +B9sqXlEA45g-00963-00203808-00203919 together +B9sqXlEA45g-00964-00203920-00204102 to that are going to completely change +B9sqXlEA45g-00965-00204103-00204238 like he he thinks car +B9sqXlEA45g-00966-00204239-00204471 ownership is going to be a thing of the +B9sqXlEA45g-00967-00204472-00204743 past within the next five to 10 years +B9sqXlEA45g-00968-00204744-00205110 between solar batteries +B9sqXlEA45g-00969-00205111-00205486 and autonomous and he shows pictures of +B9sqXlEA45g-00970-00205487-00205751 new york city in 1911 +B9sqXlEA45g-00971-00205752-00206142 with every everything's a horse with one +B9sqXlEA45g-00972-00206144-00206455 non-horse drawn you know early model t +B9sqXlEA45g-00973-00206456-00206782 right nine years seven years later 1918 +B9sqXlEA45g-00974-00206783-00206998 1919 during the middle of the +B9sqXlEA45g-00975-00207000-00207262 war world war one he has another photo +B9sqXlEA45g-00976-00207263-00207398 it's reversed there's one horse +B9sqXlEA45g-00977-00207400-00207590 and everything else is cars and he says +B9sqXlEA45g-00978-00207591-00207871 it wasn't because everybody +B9sqXlEA45g-00979-00207871-00208134 changed their it was because they were +B9sqXlEA45g-00980-00208135-00208319 demonstrably better there was it was +B9sqXlEA45g-00981-00208319-00208431 just stupid +B9sqXlEA45g-00982-00208432-00208655 to not switch are we are we close to +B9sqXlEA45g-00983-00208656-00208766 that place for +B9sqXlEA45g-00984-00208767-00209046 electric vehicles oh i love i want when +B9sqXlEA45g-00985-00209048-00209166 i'm giving um +B9sqXlEA45g-00986-00209167-00209510 um talks one of my favorite slides is +B9sqXlEA45g-00987-00209511-00209734 just something you describe because most +B9sqXlEA45g-00988-00209735-00209975 people lack an imagination about how +B9sqXlEA45g-00989-00209976-00210223 quickly this turnover could happen +B9sqXlEA45g-00990-00210223-00210471 because it was within 20 or 30 years +B9sqXlEA45g-00991-00210471-00210567 that 60 +B9sqXlEA45g-00992-00210567-00210775 of households in the united states got +B9sqXlEA45g-00993-00210776-00210942 cars and and they went +B9sqXlEA45g-00994-00210944-00211119 from the incumbent solution it wasn't +B9sqXlEA45g-00995-00211119-00211287 like they were switching from a gas car +B9sqXlEA45g-00996-00211288-00211463 to an electric car they were going from +B9sqXlEA45g-00997-00211464-00211679 a horse +B9sqXlEA45g-00998-00211680-00211919 to a car which the last time i looked +B9sqXlEA45g-00999-00211919-00212079 the horse in a car are kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-01000-00212080-00212446 different right that was profound +B9sqXlEA45g-01001-00212448-00212703 um and so the question becomes can we +B9sqXlEA45g-01002-00212704-00212823 make that transition +B9sqXlEA45g-01003-00212823-00213134 well you bet we can right if and +B9sqXlEA45g-01004-00213135-00213534 this is the big if we need a whole bunch +B9sqXlEA45g-01005-00213535-00213839 of things to happen uh in with the +B9sqXlEA45g-01006-00213840-00213934 cooperation +B9sqXlEA45g-01007-00213935-00214191 of our governments and and here's where +B9sqXlEA45g-01008-00214192-00214279 i don't want to get +B9sqXlEA45g-01009-00214280-00214527 completely down the rat hole and energy +B9sqXlEA45g-01010-00214528-00214719 geek nerdy on you but +B9sqXlEA45g-01011-00214719-00215063 there are profound consequences to our +B9sqXlEA45g-01012-00215064-00215231 electric distribution system when we +B9sqXlEA45g-01013-00215232-00215415 start plugging in our cars +B9sqXlEA45g-01014-00215416-00215663 profound can you get a little bit geeky +B9sqXlEA45g-01015-00215664-00215767 with me about that +B9sqXlEA45g-01016-00215767-00216031 yeah so i'll give you a great example +B9sqXlEA45g-01017-00216032-00216071 most +B9sqXlEA45g-01018-00216071-00216375 homes that we build today are +B9sqXlEA45g-01019-00216376-00216471 you know when you're when you're +B9sqXlEA45g-01020-00216471-00216655 building a house and you got to bring +B9sqXlEA45g-01021-00216656-00216823 electricity to the house +B9sqXlEA45g-01022-00216823-00217110 the utility sizes all the wires and the +B9sqXlEA45g-01023-00217111-00217198 feeders based +B9sqXlEA45g-01024-00217200-00217406 on they they figure out what's the the +B9sqXlEA45g-01025-00217407-00217623 times we use our peak load right +B9sqXlEA45g-01026-00217623-00217879 if you've got a house and everything +B9sqXlEA45g-01027-00217880-00217958 electric +B9sqXlEA45g-01028-00217959-00218239 in that house is turned on at the same +B9sqXlEA45g-01029-00218240-00218342 time +B9sqXlEA45g-01030-00218344-00218615 you're operating at peak okay you've got +B9sqXlEA45g-01031-00218616-00218791 two girls blowing their hair +B9sqXlEA45g-01032-00218792-00218958 you have three refrigerators in the +B9sqXlEA45g-01033-00218959-00219127 basement you got five +B9sqXlEA45g-01034-00219128-00219358 computers on all the lights in the house +B9sqXlEA45g-01035-00219359-00219431 your what +B9sqXlEA45g-01036-00219432-00219694 everything gets turned up that's peak +B9sqXlEA45g-01037-00219696-00219791 okay +B9sqXlEA45g-01038-00219792-00219967 most so here's the interesting thing +B9sqXlEA45g-01039-00219967-00220294 most homes in the united states +B9sqXlEA45g-01040-00220296-00220575 are are designed to peak somewhere +B9sqXlEA45g-01041-00220576-00220639 around +B9sqXlEA45g-01042-00220640-00220919 i'm going to use the word three to four +B9sqXlEA45g-01043-00220919-00221006 kilowatts +B9sqXlEA45g-01044-00221007-00221351 that's a measurement of energy +B9sqXlEA45g-01045-00221352-00221606 now i'm going to tell you that i have a +B9sqXlEA45g-01046-00221607-00221694 charger +B9sqXlEA45g-01047-00221696-00222046 in my garage that holds +B9sqXlEA45g-01048-00222048-00222375 not three kilowatts but seven point +B9sqXlEA45g-01049-00222376-00222791 two that's double more oh +B9sqXlEA45g-01050-00222792-00223063 okay so i want you to just think about +B9sqXlEA45g-01051-00223064-00223094 now +B9sqXlEA45g-01052-00223096-00223263 of course when utilities design these +B9sqXlEA45g-01053-00223264-00223527 things they they allow for some headroom +B9sqXlEA45g-01054-00223528-00223727 but what we're talking about this is the +B9sqXlEA45g-01055-00223728-00223894 most profound thing to happen to our +B9sqXlEA45g-01056-00223896-00224063 electric distribution system +B9sqXlEA45g-01057-00224064-00224287 ever the last time we had and we used +B9sqXlEA45g-01058-00224288-00224375 the word load +B9sqXlEA45g-01059-00224376-00224606 for the demand for the electric demand +B9sqXlEA45g-01060-00224607-00224767 the last time we had something like this +B9sqXlEA45g-01061-00224767-00224879 present ourselves +B9sqXlEA45g-01062-00224880-00225294 was present itself was you might guess +B9sqXlEA45g-01063-00225296-00225487 what was the if you could think about +B9sqXlEA45g-01064-00225488-00225727 the big load that might have come on +B9sqXlEA45g-01065-00225728-00226158 it's not electric cars dryers +B9sqXlEA45g-01066-00226159-00226503 air conditioning air conditioning +B9sqXlEA45g-01067-00226504-00226806 but air conditioning is seasonal and +B9sqXlEA45g-01068-00226807-00227079 it's also different in different places +B9sqXlEA45g-01069-00227080-00227158 in the country +B9sqXlEA45g-01070-00227159-00227463 right so it's very different this is not +B9sqXlEA45g-01071-00227464-00227567 only is this +B9sqXlEA45g-01072-00227567-00227734 huge load that's about to come on to our +B9sqXlEA45g-01073-00227735-00227894 distribution system +B9sqXlEA45g-01074-00227896-00228198 but it's load that moves around we've +B9sqXlEA45g-01075-00228200-00228406 never had anything like that it's mobile +B9sqXlEA45g-01076-00228407-00228639 load and not only is it load that moves +B9sqXlEA45g-01077-00228640-00228782 around but what's a car +B9sqXlEA45g-01078-00228783-00228934 an electric car it's really just a +B9sqXlEA45g-01079-00228935-00229175 battery on wheels right +B9sqXlEA45g-01080-00229176-00229503 so if it's a battery on wheels can it +B9sqXlEA45g-01081-00229504-00229871 actually also supply electricity +B9sqXlEA45g-01082-00229871-00230151 to our grid or our home as well as +B9sqXlEA45g-01083-00230152-00230406 consume it when it needs to be charged +B9sqXlEA45g-01084-00230407-00230615 yeah that's something we call vehicle to +B9sqXlEA45g-01085-00230616-00230775 grid +B9sqXlEA45g-01086-00230776-00230998 so that's just a taste of how profound +B9sqXlEA45g-01087-00231000-00231182 this is because now i've got an electric +B9sqXlEA45g-01088-00231183-00231215 car +B9sqXlEA45g-01089-00231216-00231463 now not today we're a little bit far +B9sqXlEA45g-01090-00231464-00231527 from the +B9sqXlEA45g-01091-00231528-00231839 actually i say far a few years +B9sqXlEA45g-01092-00231840-00232071 i think um in a few years we're going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01093-00232071-00232246 see more what's called vehicle-to-grid +B9sqXlEA45g-01094-00232248-00232351 capability +B9sqXlEA45g-01095-00232352-00232487 when we're going to be able to take our +B9sqXlEA45g-01096-00232488-00232710 car that's in our garage and when my +B9sqXlEA45g-01097-00232711-00232903 power goes down +B9sqXlEA45g-01098-00232904-00233142 i got a big battery sitting there then i +B9sqXlEA45g-01099-00233144-00233423 can power some things in my house +B9sqXlEA45g-01100-00233423-00233703 right right so the idea is that there +B9sqXlEA45g-01101-00233704-00233863 are going to be certain peaks +B9sqXlEA45g-01102-00233864-00234039 that are that are greater than what we +B9sqXlEA45g-01103-00234040-00234175 have to deal with now +B9sqXlEA45g-01104-00234176-00234431 but on the whole the consumption is +B9sqXlEA45g-01105-00234432-00234551 going to go way down +B9sqXlEA45g-01106-00234552-00234887 because of efficiencies uh consumption +B9sqXlEA45g-01107-00234888-00234910 is +B9sqXlEA45g-01108-00234911-00235119 actually going to go up right we're +B9sqXlEA45g-01109-00235119-00235231 going to consume a +B9sqXlEA45g-01110-00235232-00235398 hell of a lot more electricity because +B9sqXlEA45g-01111-00235400-00235639 we're translating all of the energy we +B9sqXlEA45g-01112-00235640-00235823 use in fossil fuel +B9sqXlEA45g-01113-00235823-00236094 to electricity now right transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01114-00236096-00236151 sector +B9sqXlEA45g-01115-00236152-00236455 so overall electricity consumption goes +B9sqXlEA45g-01116-00236456-00236798 way up we have for the first time some +B9sqXlEA45g-01117-00236800-00236991 tools to be able to manage when +B9sqXlEA45g-01118-00236992-00237294 and where that load presents itself +B9sqXlEA45g-01119-00237296-00237415 right i could say +B9sqXlEA45g-01120-00237416-00237582 most of my charging is going to be done +B9sqXlEA45g-01121-00237583-00237727 at home at night +B9sqXlEA45g-01122-00237728-00237958 and by the way at night consumption is +B9sqXlEA45g-01123-00237959-00238071 way down +B9sqXlEA45g-01124-00238071-00238287 right we've got enough energy in the +B9sqXlEA45g-01125-00238288-00238510 system enough power plants in the system +B9sqXlEA45g-01126-00238511-00238598 right now +B9sqXlEA45g-01127-00238600-00238903 to supply um you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01128-00238904-00239239 a fair amount of electricity at night +B9sqXlEA45g-01129-00239240-00239542 not during peak hot summer days so we've +B9sqXlEA45g-01130-00239544-00239767 got this all translates to +B9sqXlEA45g-01131-00239767-00240094 we have a lot of work to do to make sure +B9sqXlEA45g-01132-00240096-00240294 if we want to make this adoption happen +B9sqXlEA45g-01133-00240296-00240463 as quickly as possible +B9sqXlEA45g-01134-00240464-00240758 which we do we've got a lot of work to +B9sqXlEA45g-01135-00240759-00240879 do to make sure +B9sqXlEA45g-01136-00240880-00241239 we do it in a thoughtful planful way +B9sqXlEA45g-01137-00241240-00241558 so that we can extract the most benefits +B9sqXlEA45g-01138-00241559-00241879 and avoid harm all right +B9sqXlEA45g-01139-00241880-00242191 now also it also i think we have to +B9sqXlEA45g-01140-00242192-00242358 think about where the electricity comes +B9sqXlEA45g-01141-00242359-00242494 from how it's generated +B9sqXlEA45g-01142-00242496-00242694 right like if if all of a sudden we're +B9sqXlEA45g-01143-00242696-00242887 not doing crude oil from the middle east +B9sqXlEA45g-01144-00242888-00243039 but we're doing coal +B9sqXlEA45g-01145-00243040-00243327 from strip male mountaintop destruction +B9sqXlEA45g-01146-00243328-00243471 in west virginia +B9sqXlEA45g-01147-00243471-00243887 it's probably not a net benefit um +B9sqXlEA45g-01148-00243888-00244030 how are we looking to create the +B9sqXlEA45g-01149-00244031-00244223 electricity yeah so +B9sqXlEA45g-01150-00244223-00244406 proof let me just abuse folks of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01151-00244407-00244542 fact that +B9sqXlEA45g-01152-00244544-00244751 even today in many places like new +B9sqXlEA45g-01153-00244752-00245023 jersey our electricity is relative +B9sqXlEA45g-01154-00245023-00245223 there's two things going on electricity +B9sqXlEA45g-01155-00245223-00245367 is relatively clean +B9sqXlEA45g-01156-00245367-00245527 right in new jersey we don't have a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-01157-00245528-00245775 of coal plants in fact we have none +B9sqXlEA45g-01158-00245776-00246071 operating it's mostly nuclear and +B9sqXlEA45g-01159-00246071-00246191 natural gas +B9sqXlEA45g-01160-00246192-00246327 and some renewables and we're going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01161-00246328-00246503 have some offshore wind soon which is +B9sqXlEA45g-01162-00246504-00246646 very exciting +B9sqXlEA45g-01163-00246648-00246982 um couple that couple a relatively clean +B9sqXlEA45g-01164-00246983-00247071 grid +B9sqXlEA45g-01165-00247071-00247303 with the fact that the ic engine is +B9sqXlEA45g-01166-00247304-00247423 extraordinarily +B9sqXlEA45g-01167-00247423-00247694 in efficient so i like to use pizza +B9sqXlEA45g-01168-00247696-00247863 because i love pizza and the jersey +B9sqXlEA45g-01169-00247864-00248079 what i see is internal combustion kernel +B9sqXlEA45g-01170-00248080-00248279 combustion engine yeah okay so +B9sqXlEA45g-01171-00248280-00248591 imagine that i give you a pizza pie i +B9sqXlEA45g-01172-00248592-00248751 maybe you like pizza too but maybe i +B9sqXlEA45g-01173-00248752-00248903 give a pizza pie +B9sqXlEA45g-01174-00248904-00249151 okay all right so it's roman gourmet +B9sqXlEA45g-01175-00249152-00249282 right +B9sqXlEA45g-01176-00249283-00249558 yes okay should we say that we we've +B9sqXlEA45g-01177-00249559-00249846 known each other since like 1979 +B9sqXlEA45g-01178-00249848-00250182 yeah we were fine mrs curtin's eighth +B9sqXlEA45g-01179-00250183-00250246 grade +B9sqXlEA45g-01180-00250248-00250471 uh social studies class right well yes +B9sqXlEA45g-01181-00250471-00250671 we've known each other for a long time +B9sqXlEA45g-01182-00250671-00250863 so i'm gonna give you a pizza from the +B9sqXlEA45g-01183-00250864-00251015 roman gourmet +B9sqXlEA45g-01184-00251016-00251423 and i'm gonna take away seven slices +B9sqXlEA45g-01185-00251423-00251742 seven slices of a ten slice pie +B9sqXlEA45g-01186-00251744-00251982 that's the internal combustion engine +B9sqXlEA45g-01187-00251983-00252158 it's about thirty five 35 +B9sqXlEA45g-01188-00252159-00252439 efficient it's nuts but that's what we +B9sqXlEA45g-01189-00252440-00252598 have and to be honest they could ring +B9sqXlEA45g-01190-00252600-00252758 all the efficiency out of it and maybe +B9sqXlEA45g-01191-00252759-00252879 they get to 38 +B9sqXlEA45g-01192-00252880-00253039 and people can argue about that but it's +B9sqXlEA45g-01193-00253040-00253263 extraordinarily inefficient so +B9sqXlEA45g-01194-00253264-00253430 we've got two things we've got a +B9sqXlEA45g-01195-00253431-00253591 relatively clean clean grid in new +B9sqXlEA45g-01196-00253592-00253710 jersey and a really +B9sqXlEA45g-01197-00253711-00254006 inefficient internal combustion engine +B9sqXlEA45g-01198-00254007-00254127 that means this +B9sqXlEA45g-01199-00254128-00254375 every mile that pam drives today in her +B9sqXlEA45g-01200-00254376-00254542 electric car +B9sqXlEA45g-01201-00254544-00254846 is about 70 percent +B9sqXlEA45g-01202-00254848-00255094 cleaner in terms of carbon and the +B9sqXlEA45g-01203-00255096-00255263 equivalent mile in an internal +B9sqXlEA45g-01204-00255264-00255334 combustion +B9sqXlEA45g-01205-00255335-00255646 engine now to your point that just gets +B9sqXlEA45g-01206-00255648-00255942 better as we clean up the grid and that +B9sqXlEA45g-01207-00255944-00256098 has to happen +B9sqXlEA45g-01208-00256100-00256406 simultaneously so natural +B9sqXlEA45g-01209-00256407-00256751 gas is not uh carbon free +B9sqXlEA45g-01210-00256752-00257015 right we need to come up with ways i +B9sqXlEA45g-01211-00257016-00257071 mean +B9sqXlEA45g-01212-00257071-00257342 nuclear when it's generating is carbon +B9sqXlEA45g-01213-00257344-00257398 free +B9sqXlEA45g-01214-00257400-00257751 and i would i would say while i'm not a +B9sqXlEA45g-01215-00257752-00257855 huge fan +B9sqXlEA45g-01216-00257856-00258127 of building more traditional nuclear +B9sqXlEA45g-01217-00258128-00258239 plants +B9sqXlEA45g-01218-00258240-00258494 um i do think the ones that we have we +B9sqXlEA45g-01219-00258496-00258671 need to get as much out of as we can +B9sqXlEA45g-01220-00258671-00258894 while we're making these transitions +B9sqXlEA45g-01221-00258896-00259063 and we're always you know we're hopeful +B9sqXlEA45g-01222-00259064-00259255 to see some new technologies +B9sqXlEA45g-01223-00259256-00259479 maybe with nuclear that are much smaller +B9sqXlEA45g-01224-00259480-00259575 and don't have +B9sqXlEA45g-01225-00259576-00259910 um the waste issues but we'll see what +B9sqXlEA45g-01226-00259911-00260103 technology brings us if we get battery +B9sqXlEA45g-01227-00260104-00260263 costs down +B9sqXlEA45g-01228-00260264-00260630 really low um cheap energy storage +B9sqXlEA45g-01229-00260631-00260967 changes the world in profound ways so +B9sqXlEA45g-01230-00260967-00261119 because you can make electricity so many +B9sqXlEA45g-01231-00261119-00261391 different ways and if you can store it +B9sqXlEA45g-01232-00261392-00261871 cheaply that changes people's lives +B9sqXlEA45g-01233-00261871-00262167 okay and so i think i saw something i +B9sqXlEA45g-01234-00262168-00262303 don't know if it's science fiction +B9sqXlEA45g-01235-00262304-00262551 or 10 years or 20 years away but like +B9sqXlEA45g-01236-00262552-00262887 intelligent roads +B9sqXlEA45g-01237-00262888-00263110 that's a thing yeah um i was actually +B9sqXlEA45g-01238-00263111-00263271 having a conversation with our +B9sqXlEA45g-01239-00263272-00263471 commissioner of transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01240-00263472-00263815 uh about a week ago about this right and +B9sqXlEA45g-01241-00263816-00264134 so that's fascinating um the idea +B9sqXlEA45g-01242-00264135-00264334 yeah so what what what what am i talking +B9sqXlEA45g-01243-00264335-00264463 about when i say that because i really +B9sqXlEA45g-01244-00264464-00264575 don't know +B9sqXlEA45g-01245-00264576-00264758 yeah well there's a lot it's sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-01246-00264759-00264943 like people use the term smart grid what +B9sqXlEA45g-01247-00264944-00265071 do they mean by that well what do you +B9sqXlEA45g-01248-00265072-00265255 mean by a smart road what i mean +B9sqXlEA45g-01249-00265256-00265527 by a smart road is the idea to be able +B9sqXlEA45g-01250-00265528-00265751 to put some intelligence +B9sqXlEA45g-01251-00265752-00266055 into a roadway right so think think +B9sqXlEA45g-01252-00266056-00266287 about this you could put +B9sqXlEA45g-01253-00266288-00266415 first of all there's something called +B9sqXlEA45g-01254-00266416-00266687 inductive charging inductive charging is +B9sqXlEA45g-01255-00266688-00266791 the idea that as +B9sqXlEA45g-01256-00266792-00267071 a car is riding on a surface they are +B9sqXlEA45g-01257-00267072-00267230 able to pick up charge it's like +B9sqXlEA45g-01258-00267231-00267415 wireless charging you may think about it +B9sqXlEA45g-01259-00267416-00267479 that way +B9sqXlEA45g-01260-00267480-00267647 so they're actually able to pick up +B9sqXlEA45g-01261-00267648-00267806 charge potentially even +B9sqXlEA45g-01262-00267807-00267991 generate electricity as they're riding +B9sqXlEA45g-01263-00267992-00268151 along a road +B9sqXlEA45g-01264-00268152-00268367 there's also intelligence that could be +B9sqXlEA45g-01265-00268368-00268543 embedded into the road +B9sqXlEA45g-01266-00268544-00268903 that could for example signal +B9sqXlEA45g-01267-00268904-00269206 if there is a dead deer five miles ahead +B9sqXlEA45g-01268-00269207-00269375 in the road right and be able to give +B9sqXlEA45g-01269-00269376-00269591 that information back to a driver +B9sqXlEA45g-01270-00269592-00269887 there's also technology in a road that +B9sqXlEA45g-01271-00269888-00269958 could melt +B9sqXlEA45g-01272-00269959-00270279 ice right um there's also +B9sqXlEA45g-01273-00270280-00270615 um traffic signaling or congestion +B9sqXlEA45g-01274-00270616-00270719 signaling or +B9sqXlEA45g-01275-00270720-00270999 lane changing that could happen as a +B9sqXlEA45g-01276-00271000-00271055 result +B9sqXlEA45g-01277-00271056-00271327 of feedback on coming from cars that are +B9sqXlEA45g-01278-00271328-00271463 running on the roads so +B9sqXlEA45g-01279-00271464-00271782 you're trying to really make roads smart +B9sqXlEA45g-01280-00271783-00271951 now you would be right to say boy that +B9sqXlEA45g-01281-00271952-00272158 sounds like a cost a lot of money +B9sqXlEA45g-01282-00272159-00272423 and you know that's a great information +B9sqXlEA45g-01283-00272424-00272551 that's a great 21st century +B9sqXlEA45g-01284-00272552-00272767 infrastructure project right like +B9sqXlEA45g-01285-00272768-00273071 eisenhower built our highways like maybe +B9sqXlEA45g-01286-00273072-00273206 we need to think about doing something +B9sqXlEA45g-01287-00273207-00273430 like that again but for the 21st century +B9sqXlEA45g-01288-00273431-00273687 right that's a huge big infrastructure +B9sqXlEA45g-01289-00273688-00273743 project +B9sqXlEA45g-01290-00273744-00273999 but the technology is is really making +B9sqXlEA45g-01291-00274000-00274263 that possible +B9sqXlEA45g-01292-00274264-00274503 wow and is that uh when we think you +B9sqXlEA45g-01293-00274504-00274599 know i still think about +B9sqXlEA45g-01294-00274600-00274823 cars as a human being gets in steps on +B9sqXlEA45g-01295-00274824-00274999 the gas steps on the brake +B9sqXlEA45g-01296-00275000-00275206 drives it we're certainly moving towards +B9sqXlEA45g-01297-00275207-00275334 autonomous +B9sqXlEA45g-01298-00275335-00275534 vehicles i'm imagining you know a smart +B9sqXlEA45g-01299-00275535-00275767 road would make it a lot easier +B9sqXlEA45g-01300-00275768-00276079 to produce the ai in a car uh +B9sqXlEA45g-01301-00276080-00276295 but like what you know do you have a +B9sqXlEA45g-01302-00276296-00276382 vision of +B9sqXlEA45g-01303-00276383-00276687 like transportation personal consumer +B9sqXlEA45g-01304-00276688-00276871 transportation in 10 years that i just +B9sqXlEA45g-01305-00276872-00276910 can't +B9sqXlEA45g-01306-00276911-00277175 picture yet yeah there's there's +B9sqXlEA45g-01307-00277176-00277223 interesting +B9sqXlEA45g-01308-00277224-00277551 the company in israel right now but +B9sqXlEA45g-01309-00277552-00277591 they're +B9sqXlEA45g-01310-00277592-00277927 they're thinking about autonomy and and +B9sqXlEA45g-01311-00277928-00278047 and there's a there's a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-01312-00278048-00278199 the thing with autonomy if that's +B9sqXlEA45g-01313-00278200-00278406 challenging um +B9sqXlEA45g-01314-00278407-00278606 is and i'm not a software computer +B9sqXlEA45g-01315-00278607-00278710 engineer um +B9sqXlEA45g-01316-00278711-00278982 what i understand about the challenges +B9sqXlEA45g-01317-00278983-00279191 with autonomous driving right now +B9sqXlEA45g-01318-00279192-00279510 is really if you've got a roadway where +B9sqXlEA45g-01319-00279511-00279551 it was +B9sqXlEA45g-01320-00279552-00279855 just autonomous cars that's an +B9sqXlEA45g-01321-00279856-00280055 easy problem that's something that we +B9sqXlEA45g-01322-00280056-00280199 could do today +B9sqXlEA45g-01323-00280200-00280463 yeah the problem becomes when you +B9sqXlEA45g-01324-00280464-00280615 introduce +B9sqXlEA45g-01325-00280616-00280934 humans and human drivers with +B9sqXlEA45g-01326-00280935-00281247 autonomous cars and we're very hard to +B9sqXlEA45g-01327-00281248-00281310 predict +B9sqXlEA45g-01328-00281311-00281655 humans right +B9sqXlEA45g-01329-00281656-00281823 essentially it's a legislative problem +B9sqXlEA45g-01330-00281824-00281999 like if we could legislate okay +B9sqXlEA45g-01331-00282000-00282295 only autonomous cars from now on right +B9sqXlEA45g-01332-00282296-00282439 right that makes a lot easier right but +B9sqXlEA45g-01333-00282440-00282710 you've got these blended systems +B9sqXlEA45g-01334-00282711-00283015 that i that make it challenging um and +B9sqXlEA45g-01335-00283016-00283391 us a whole bunch of regulations right um +B9sqXlEA45g-01336-00283392-00283687 that's i i actually i am not i'm a +B9sqXlEA45g-01337-00283688-00283719 little +B9sqXlEA45g-01338-00283720-00283991 dubious about when we're gonna see sort +B9sqXlEA45g-01339-00283992-00284095 of +B9sqXlEA45g-01340-00284096-00284399 full bloom autonomous um driving +B9sqXlEA45g-01341-00284400-00284630 just because i think from a regulatory +B9sqXlEA45g-01342-00284631-00284767 perspective it's going to be very +B9sqXlEA45g-01343-00284768-00284919 challenging and there's technology +B9sqXlEA45g-01344-00284920-00285023 challenges too +B9sqXlEA45g-01345-00285024-00285206 well i could see a city doing it you +B9sqXlEA45g-01346-00285207-00285439 know san francisco +B9sqXlEA45g-01347-00285440-00285687 or palo alto and then humans like we +B9sqXlEA45g-01348-00285688-00285839 could go to action park +B9sqXlEA45g-01349-00285840-00286054 and drive our little like like it'll be +B9sqXlEA45g-01350-00286055-00286191 like a ride +B9sqXlEA45g-01351-00286192-00286479 like i like that vision i do i mean i +B9sqXlEA45g-01352-00286480-00286591 think that's where you're gonna +B9sqXlEA45g-01353-00286592-00286887 you're gonna see it piloted i think in +B9sqXlEA45g-01354-00286888-00286991 sort of contained +B9sqXlEA45g-01355-00286992-00287343 areas first which would make sense um +B9sqXlEA45g-01356-00287344-00287551 i also think you know part of my vision +B9sqXlEA45g-01357-00287552-00287734 by the way so people think about this is +B9sqXlEA45g-01358-00287735-00287910 what this israeli company is +B9sqXlEA45g-01359-00287911-00288182 is thinking about too is is not just you +B9sqXlEA45g-01360-00288183-00288439 know pam has to get to the doctor +B9sqXlEA45g-01361-00288440-00288767 right so she calls this autonomous car +B9sqXlEA45g-01362-00288768-00288967 that she doesn't own because why own it +B9sqXlEA45g-01363-00288968-00289151 you know it's just a service now right +B9sqXlEA45g-01364-00289152-00289239 so she pulls his +B9sqXlEA45g-01365-00289240-00289599 autonomous car and she gets in it and it +B9sqXlEA45g-01366-00289600-00289887 takes her to the doctor's office well if +B9sqXlEA45g-01367-00289888-00290006 i'm going to go there why +B9sqXlEA45g-01368-00290007-00290191 can't i say well pam is just sitting at +B9sqXlEA45g-01369-00290192-00290343 home and the doctor's office comes to +B9sqXlEA45g-01370-00290344-00290391 her +B9sqXlEA45g-01371-00290392-00290654 on wheels so there's all kinds of +B9sqXlEA45g-01372-00290655-00290863 interesting models i +B9sqXlEA45g-01373-00290864-00291087 i love that one because years ago and in +B9sqXlEA45g-01374-00291088-00291175 your world +B9sqXlEA45g-01375-00291176-00291519 when you think about the challenge of +B9sqXlEA45g-01376-00291520-00291843 of bringing um or permitting uh +B9sqXlEA45g-01377-00291844-00292054 slaughterhouses like i remember talking +B9sqXlEA45g-01378-00292055-00292206 about this with some of my new jersey +B9sqXlEA45g-01379-00292207-00292399 friends that are farmers right +B9sqXlEA45g-01380-00292400-00292654 if you want to do sort of sustainable +B9sqXlEA45g-01381-00292655-00292751 farming +B9sqXlEA45g-01382-00292752-00292999 um and part of that is you know you want +B9sqXlEA45g-01383-00293000-00293263 the ability to slaughter your own +B9sqXlEA45g-01384-00293264-00293599 meat um that's a very challenging thing +B9sqXlEA45g-01385-00293600-00293663 to do +B9sqXlEA45g-01386-00293664-00293879 in a place like new jersey it may be +B9sqXlEA45g-01387-00293880-00294063 more permissible in other places +B9sqXlEA45g-01388-00294064-00294279 but years ago somebody came up with this +B9sqXlEA45g-01389-00294280-00294519 idea and they piloted new york +B9sqXlEA45g-01390-00294520-00294863 of mobile slaughterhouses +B9sqXlEA45g-01391-00294864-00295167 which was like wow that's you know i +B9sqXlEA45g-01392-00295168-00295303 laughed a little bit being jewish and +B9sqXlEA45g-01393-00295304-00295519 kosher i'm like could they put like a +B9sqXlEA45g-01394-00295520-00295815 a a a certified mishkiyaka like on the +B9sqXlEA45g-01395-00295816-00295863 end +B9sqXlEA45g-01396-00295864-00295999 so you could have like a little culture +B9sqXlEA45g-01397-00296000-00296206 slaughter thing on the caboose +B9sqXlEA45g-01398-00296207-00296447 um right and all and all my vegan +B9sqXlEA45g-01399-00296448-00296551 listeners are +B9sqXlEA45g-01400-00296552-00296847 i know wow are checked out right now i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-01401-00296848-00296943 sorry that's +B9sqXlEA45g-01402-00296944-00297191 sort of like it's as an example yeah as +B9sqXlEA45g-01403-00297192-00297334 an example that comes to mind +B9sqXlEA45g-01404-00297335-00297543 also think of it think about you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01405-00297544-00297758 the like 100 years ago +B9sqXlEA45g-01406-00297759-00297910 the peddler who used to go down the +B9sqXlEA45g-01407-00297911-00298143 street sharpening everyone's knives +B9sqXlEA45g-01408-00298144-00298303 that's right right it's much more +B9sqXlEA45g-01409-00298304-00298463 efficient if you know if now you have +B9sqXlEA45g-01410-00298464-00298639 this big like an office building that +B9sqXlEA45g-01411-00298640-00298815 can move around on wheels and can +B9sqXlEA45g-01412-00298816-00299071 service everybody in the road +B9sqXlEA45g-01413-00299072-00299351 it's you know so much less so many fewer +B9sqXlEA45g-01414-00299352-00299415 trips +B9sqXlEA45g-01415-00299416-00299695 yeah well so the vision is is of +B9sqXlEA45g-01416-00299696-00299815 mobility it becomes +B9sqXlEA45g-01417-00299816-00299991 really dynamic you know it's infused +B9sqXlEA45g-01418-00299992-00300143 with intelligence i think one of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01419-00300144-00300247 most exciting +B9sqXlEA45g-01420-00300248-00300558 things about um what electric vehicles +B9sqXlEA45g-01421-00300559-00300710 and autonomous vehicles +B9sqXlEA45g-01422-00300711-00301015 and even the change in car +B9sqXlEA45g-01423-00301016-00301199 ownership with the ubers and the lifts +B9sqXlEA45g-01424-00301200-00301327 and all these different kinds of +B9sqXlEA45g-01425-00301328-00301710 as sort of mobility as a service +B9sqXlEA45g-01426-00301711-00302079 it really opens up opportunities +B9sqXlEA45g-01427-00302080-00302391 for the population of people that can +B9sqXlEA45g-01428-00302392-00302710 can no longer drive right um for +B9sqXlEA45g-01429-00302711-00302919 for all those baby boomers and i'm one +B9sqXlEA45g-01430-00302920-00303127 because i just made them a december 64 +B9sqXlEA45g-01431-00303128-00303215 baby +B9sqXlEA45g-01432-00303216-00303551 um so for all of us baby boomers that +B9sqXlEA45g-01433-00303552-00303695 are going to be aging +B9sqXlEA45g-01434-00303696-00303887 and for all the services we know are +B9sqXlEA45g-01435-00303888-00304023 going to be required because we're going +B9sqXlEA45g-01436-00304024-00304167 to live longer +B9sqXlEA45g-01437-00304168-00304454 um you know this this is actually really +B9sqXlEA45g-01438-00304455-00304591 important you know how +B9sqXlEA45g-01439-00304592-00304919 isolating it can be for older folks who +B9sqXlEA45g-01440-00304920-00305054 can no longer drive +B9sqXlEA45g-01441-00305055-00305423 so giving i mean that's profound and +B9sqXlEA45g-01442-00305424-00305679 going to be very beneficial it is even +B9sqXlEA45g-01443-00305680-00305743 today +B9sqXlEA45g-01444-00305744-00305879 you know my mom doesn't want to drive +B9sqXlEA45g-01445-00305880-00306030 somewhere she still drives but if she +B9sqXlEA45g-01446-00306031-00306191 doesn't want to drive somewhere +B9sqXlEA45g-01447-00306192-00306319 she doesn't want to drive into philly or +B9sqXlEA45g-01448-00306320-00306487 something i should just call an uber +B9sqXlEA45g-01449-00306488-00306615 right call lyft +B9sqXlEA45g-01450-00306616-00306927 um and that's that's just a very +B9sqXlEA45g-01451-00306928-00307054 user-friendly +B9sqXlEA45g-01452-00307055-00307375 um way to promote mobility and mobility +B9sqXlEA45g-01453-00307376-00307663 is a key to so many health outcomes you +B9sqXlEA45g-01454-00307664-00307751 know getting +B9sqXlEA45g-01455-00307752-00307967 food getting good access to medical care +B9sqXlEA45g-01456-00307968-00308143 jobs all this +B9sqXlEA45g-01457-00308144-00308382 right so there's there's an +B9sqXlEA45g-01458-00308383-00308599 environmental critique +B9sqXlEA45g-01459-00308600-00308919 by uh by a certain +B9sqXlEA45g-01460-00308920-00309119 um group of people and i'm very +B9sqXlEA45g-01461-00309120-00309287 sympathetic to this +B9sqXlEA45g-01462-00309288-00309654 that technology isn't going to save us +B9sqXlEA45g-01463-00309655-00309863 that ultimately it's we we need to come +B9sqXlEA45g-01464-00309864-00310063 back into relation to the earth +B9sqXlEA45g-01465-00310064-00310279 and that's all these new technologies +B9sqXlEA45g-01466-00310280-00310439 whether somebody does invent something +B9sqXlEA45g-01467-00310440-00310671 that sucks carbon out of the air +B9sqXlEA45g-01468-00310672-00310958 or you know autonomous solar vehicles +B9sqXlEA45g-01469-00310959-00311054 that +B9sqXlEA45g-01470-00311055-00311399 that at some point we have to change +B9sqXlEA45g-01471-00311400-00311630 our relationship with the planet and not +B9sqXlEA45g-01472-00311631-00311839 be the dominator species +B9sqXlEA45g-01473-00311840-00312143 grabbing everything we can um +B9sqXlEA45g-01474-00312144-00312534 and you know segwaying from talking +B9sqXlEA45g-01475-00312535-00312758 about like the social implications of +B9sqXlEA45g-01476-00312759-00312863 this +B9sqXlEA45g-01477-00312864-00313134 mobility revolution for elder people to +B9sqXlEA45g-01478-00313135-00313199 be +B9sqXlEA45g-01479-00313200-00313534 more social can you see how any of this +B9sqXlEA45g-01480-00313535-00313854 can can sort of lead to humans becoming +B9sqXlEA45g-01481-00313855-00313951 better +B9sqXlEA45g-01482-00313952-00314215 rather than just being more efficient at +B9sqXlEA45g-01483-00314216-00314287 being bad +B9sqXlEA45g-01484-00314288-00314558 you know does that make sense yeah you +B9sqXlEA45g-01485-00314559-00314639 know i spent +B9sqXlEA45g-01486-00314640-00314799 a lot of time thinking about this it's +B9sqXlEA45g-01487-00314800-00314951 sort of you know living +B9sqXlEA45g-01488-00314952-00315103 with and amongst the earth not +B9sqXlEA45g-01489-00315104-00315310 dominating it right and trying to be +B9sqXlEA45g-01490-00315311-00315423 more gentle with it +B9sqXlEA45g-01491-00315424-00315623 and more thoughtful i think there's +B9sqXlEA45g-01492-00315624-00315775 going to be some some technologies that +B9sqXlEA45g-01493-00315776-00315823 are going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01494-00315824-00316071 help us do that but i i do agree with +B9sqXlEA45g-01495-00316072-00316263 you which i think the whole way we +B9sqXlEA45g-01496-00316264-00316358 approach +B9sqXlEA45g-01497-00316359-00316671 our interaction with the environment +B9sqXlEA45g-01498-00316672-00316943 really needs to change um and that's +B9sqXlEA45g-01499-00316944-00316982 both +B9sqXlEA45g-01500-00316983-00317199 remember i think i told you at the +B9sqXlEA45g-01501-00317200-00317375 beginning when we were speaking +B9sqXlEA45g-01502-00317376-00317551 a lot of my approach to this work is +B9sqXlEA45g-01503-00317552-00317727 both you know come with facts +B9sqXlEA45g-01504-00317728-00317910 come with good analysis but also come +B9sqXlEA45g-01505-00317911-00318110 with passion and look to change +B9sqXlEA45g-01506-00318111-00318415 culture and belief i think both of these +B9sqXlEA45g-01507-00318416-00318606 things have to go hand in hand i do +B9sqXlEA45g-01508-00318607-00318639 think +B9sqXlEA45g-01509-00318640-00318951 technology is is part of +B9sqXlEA45g-01510-00318952-00319230 how we solve the the challenges but it's +B9sqXlEA45g-01511-00319231-00319415 not the entire story +B9sqXlEA45g-01512-00319416-00319703 um i i agree there's a whole question +B9sqXlEA45g-01513-00319704-00319815 about +B9sqXlEA45g-01514-00319816-00320087 and i'm really interested in like i say +B9sqXlEA45g-01515-00320088-00320351 my one of my pet projects and i didn't i +B9sqXlEA45g-01516-00320352-00320582 took a year of economics when i was in +B9sqXlEA45g-01517-00320583-00320687 college and i've become +B9sqXlEA45g-01518-00320688-00321030 really really interested in new ways of +B9sqXlEA45g-01519-00321031-00321087 thinking +B9sqXlEA45g-01520-00321088-00321351 about economic systems right and +B9sqXlEA45g-01521-00321352-00321479 especially when you think about +B9sqXlEA45g-01522-00321480-00321567 consumerism +B9sqXlEA45g-01523-00321568-00321895 right and growth and could we get to an +B9sqXlEA45g-01524-00321896-00322071 economy that's not necessarily +B9sqXlEA45g-01525-00322072-00322423 based on ever escalating growth +B9sqXlEA45g-01526-00322424-00322743 um i think that's a a big +B9sqXlEA45g-01527-00322744-00322982 an important discussion that we need to +B9sqXlEA45g-01528-00322983-00323095 be having +B9sqXlEA45g-01529-00323096-00323303 i you know i'm not going to put a label +B9sqXlEA45g-01530-00323304-00323479 on that that doesn't necessarily make me +B9sqXlEA45g-01531-00323480-00323567 a communist +B9sqXlEA45g-01532-00323568-00323782 a socialist whatever ist you want to say +B9sqXlEA45g-01533-00323783-00323919 i think there's a +B9sqXlEA45g-01534-00323920-00324247 a profound new conversation that we may +B9sqXlEA45g-01535-00324248-00324358 be ready for +B9sqXlEA45g-01536-00324359-00324567 soon um just because of some of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01537-00324568-00324823 challenges we're experiencing +B9sqXlEA45g-01538-00324824-00325071 and i think we've seen some changes in +B9sqXlEA45g-01539-00325072-00325215 the pandemic +B9sqXlEA45g-01540-00325216-00325495 is fascinating to me and we'll probably +B9sqXlEA45g-01541-00325496-00325591 just +B9sqXlEA45g-01542-00325592-00325775 not really understand this fully until +B9sqXlEA45g-01543-00325776-00325934 you and i are both dead +B9sqXlEA45g-01544-00325935-00326175 um in terms of the way it's going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01545-00326176-00326310 shift our society +B9sqXlEA45g-01546-00326311-00326623 and our culture how many people +B9sqXlEA45g-01547-00326624-00326991 do you know today that are +B9sqXlEA45g-01548-00326992-00327287 that that you suspect may have been +B9sqXlEA45g-01549-00327288-00327382 changed +B9sqXlEA45g-01550-00327383-00327830 right by having to um shelter in place +B9sqXlEA45g-01551-00327831-00328134 um and uh it forces +B9sqXlEA45g-01552-00328135-00328510 um a rethinking of of a lot of things +B9sqXlEA45g-01553-00328511-00328830 we just probably firm assumptions +B9sqXlEA45g-01554-00328831-00328982 yeah it's hard it's hard to know you +B9sqXlEA45g-01555-00328983-00329110 know because part of me thinks as soon +B9sqXlEA45g-01556-00329111-00329239 as this is over everyone's going to go +B9sqXlEA45g-01557-00329240-00329391 back to doing things exactly the way +B9sqXlEA45g-01558-00329392-00329471 they were +B9sqXlEA45g-01559-00329472-00329775 before part of me thinks like there are +B9sqXlEA45g-01560-00329776-00329943 so many things that i appreciate now +B9sqXlEA45g-01561-00329944-00330182 that i didn't appreciate before +B9sqXlEA45g-01562-00330183-00330382 like when i why would i go out to eat oh +B9sqXlEA45g-01563-00330383-00330582 it was for you know convenience someone +B9sqXlEA45g-01564-00330583-00330606 else +B9sqXlEA45g-01565-00330607-00330927 cleans up no it's to be out +B9sqXlEA45g-01566-00330928-00331071 seeing other you know like there's a +B9sqXlEA45g-01567-00331072-00331278 whole other dim social dimension that +B9sqXlEA45g-01568-00331279-00331382 wasn't +B9sqXlEA45g-01569-00331383-00331727 so clear to me um +B9sqXlEA45g-01570-00331728-00332063 well it's hard it's hard to know like so +B9sqXlEA45g-01571-00332064-00332158 how you and i +B9sqXlEA45g-01572-00332159-00332495 are one cohort right i think about my 18 +B9sqXlEA45g-01573-00332496-00332599 year old son who was +B9sqXlEA45g-01574-00332600-00333015 literally i mean he was conceived +B9sqXlEA45g-01575-00333016-00333334 like several days before 9 11. just one +B9sqXlEA45g-01576-00333335-00333439 of the people that knew when she was +B9sqXlEA45g-01577-00333440-00333599 pregnant right away +B9sqXlEA45g-01578-00333600-00333782 i just i didn't want to have coffee in +B9sqXlEA45g-01579-00333783-00333951 the morning that was one of my big +B9sqXlEA45g-01580-00333952-00334199 signs i wake up and i'm just like lost +B9sqXlEA45g-01581-00334200-00334319 my taste for that +B9sqXlEA45g-01582-00334320-00334751 um but the bookends of his 18 year old +B9sqXlEA45g-01583-00334752-00335071 life have been you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01584-00335072-00335375 9 11 on the one end and covered +B9sqXlEA45g-01585-00335376-00335678 on the other and so +B9sqXlEA45g-01586-00335679-00336015 max is that's his name so max max's way +B9sqXlEA45g-01587-00336016-00336303 of thinking about the world +B9sqXlEA45g-01588-00336304-00336487 is so profoundly different than you and +B9sqXlEA45g-01589-00336488-00336606 i um +B9sqXlEA45g-01590-00336607-00336815 he's just been shaped by things that we +B9sqXlEA45g-01591-00336816-00337175 all thought were unthinkable +B9sqXlEA45g-01592-00337176-00337334 he now keeps those i'm not gonna say +B9sqXlEA45g-01593-00337335-00337478 takes those things for granted but i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-01594-00337479-00337630 just going to say his imagination is +B9sqXlEA45g-01595-00337631-00337782 much broader than your uh +B9sqXlEA45g-01596-00337783-00338103 you know ours may have been about +B9sqXlEA45g-01597-00338104-00338295 how the world could be what could happen +B9sqXlEA45g-01598-00338296-00338591 and even the prospects for change +B9sqXlEA45g-01599-00338592-00338830 right so when you were talking earlier +B9sqXlEA45g-01600-00338831-00338910 about +B9sqXlEA45g-01601-00338911-00339110 just you know the blood and the the +B9sqXlEA45g-01602-00339111-00339295 atmosphere and those very very thin +B9sqXlEA45g-01603-00339296-00339678 margins where we're okay inside a range +B9sqXlEA45g-01604-00339679-00339839 but when it gets below or above +B9sqXlEA45g-01605-00339840-00340095 i drew a little diagram to maybe talk +B9sqXlEA45g-01606-00340096-00340271 about later and it just +B9sqXlEA45g-01607-00340272-00340534 it's it's i drew a donut and it's based +B9sqXlEA45g-01608-00340535-00340806 on this idea of like donut economics +B9sqXlEA45g-01609-00340807-00341127 um by kate rock book by kate rowerth +B9sqXlEA45g-01610-00341128-00341327 um basically saying what you were saying +B9sqXlEA45g-01611-00341328-00341534 like can we have +B9sqXlEA45g-01612-00341535-00341887 like the donut itself is the livable +B9sqXlEA45g-01613-00341888-00342223 you know the the inside is all human +B9sqXlEA45g-01614-00342224-00342295 beings +B9sqXlEA45g-01615-00342296-00342623 living a life of of dignity +B9sqXlEA45g-01616-00342624-00342847 where they have enough where there's not +B9sqXlEA45g-01617-00342848-00342982 poverty disease +B9sqXlEA45g-01618-00342983-00343254 suffering and the outer limit is the +B9sqXlEA45g-01619-00343255-00343303 limits +B9sqXlEA45g-01620-00343304-00343639 of our our earth as an economy +B9sqXlEA45g-01621-00343640-00343871 right as right like economics and +B9sqXlEA45g-01622-00343872-00344063 ecosystems should be exactly the same +B9sqXlEA45g-01623-00344064-00344295 thing +B9sqXlEA45g-01624-00344296-00344623 right so well that's +B9sqXlEA45g-01625-00344624-00344943 that goes to the point where +B9sqXlEA45g-01626-00344944-00345263 you start to realize and even economists +B9sqXlEA45g-01627-00345264-00345439 i'll say sort of enlightened economists +B9sqXlEA45g-01628-00345440-00345663 realize that there's a finite +B9sqXlEA45g-01629-00345664-00345999 finite amount of resource um +B9sqXlEA45g-01630-00346000-00346199 and which is why when you think about +B9sqXlEA45g-01631-00346200-00346367 energy and energy systems +B9sqXlEA45g-01632-00346368-00346543 it's much more interesting to think +B9sqXlEA45g-01633-00346544-00346743 about what we would call capturing +B9sqXlEA45g-01634-00346744-00347119 flows which are recurring and renewable +B9sqXlEA45g-01635-00347120-00347447 rather than fuels right which are +B9sqXlEA45g-01636-00347448-00347791 finite and you know and so +B9sqXlEA45g-01637-00347792-00348103 um and and to your point about you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01638-00348104-00348478 people just having enough um +B9sqXlEA45g-01639-00348479-00348767 that's a you know i was a big fan of mad +B9sqXlEA45g-01640-00348768-00348799 men +B9sqXlEA45g-01641-00348800-00349006 which was a television show i just got +B9sqXlEA45g-01642-00349007-00349143 around to watching it during the +B9sqXlEA45g-01643-00349144-00349310 pandemic like i know +B9sqXlEA45g-01644-00349311-00349639 ten years after but uh one of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01645-00349640-00349799 interesting things i liked about that +B9sqXlEA45g-01646-00349800-00349863 series +B9sqXlEA45g-01647-00349864-00350071 was that you know it takes place in the +B9sqXlEA45g-01648-00350072-00350278 50s and the 60s and you start to see the +B9sqXlEA45g-01649-00350279-00350367 beginning +B9sqXlEA45g-01650-00350368-00350743 of wild consumerism +B9sqXlEA45g-01651-00350744-00351047 and how um the advertising +B9sqXlEA45g-01652-00351048-00351263 world who was so keyed into the +B9sqXlEA45g-01653-00351264-00351375 psychology +B9sqXlEA45g-01654-00351376-00351782 of or manipulating our psychology right +B9sqXlEA45g-01655-00351783-00351887 to make us +B9sqXlEA45g-01656-00351888-00352230 want things that we didn't really +B9sqXlEA45g-01657-00352231-00352534 need to know we wanted +B9sqXlEA45g-01658-00352535-00352847 before they told us we wanted them +B9sqXlEA45g-01659-00352848-00353063 um so it's so interesting because i +B9sqXlEA45g-01660-00353064-00353278 think well why couldn't an advertising +B9sqXlEA45g-01661-00353279-00353623 world today will you start reshaping +B9sqXlEA45g-01662-00353624-00353887 i mean it does take a village it's going +B9sqXlEA45g-01663-00353888-00353943 to take +B9sqXlEA45g-01664-00353944-00354263 you know um you know the rethinking +B9sqXlEA45g-01665-00354264-00354423 about even how +B9sqXlEA45g-01666-00354424-00354591 you know how corporations are going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01667-00354592-00354758 figure out how they +B9sqXlEA45g-01668-00354759-00354958 sustain you know what is the appropriate +B9sqXlEA45g-01669-00354959-00355063 level of growth +B9sqXlEA45g-01670-00355064-00355327 what is the you know are you chasing +B9sqXlEA45g-01671-00355328-00355367 ever +B9sqXlEA45g-01672-00355368-00355663 chasing the sort of next big thing to +B9sqXlEA45g-01673-00355664-00355710 just keep +B9sqXlEA45g-01674-00355711-00356006 growing growing growing um but i think +B9sqXlEA45g-01675-00356007-00356167 there's a +B9sqXlEA45g-01676-00356168-00356567 a a good uh and thoughtful conversation +B9sqXlEA45g-01677-00356568-00356903 for us to start having about these new +B9sqXlEA45g-01678-00356904-00357071 growth models and hopefully +B9sqXlEA45g-01679-00357072-00357271 in the universities you know hopefully +B9sqXlEA45g-01680-00357272-00357423 some of the crops of +B9sqXlEA45g-01681-00357424-00357639 students that are starting to go through +B9sqXlEA45g-01682-00357640-00357751 through um +B9sqXlEA45g-01683-00357752-00357991 and get come into their own uh +B9sqXlEA45g-01684-00357992-00358127 academically and in +B9sqXlEA45g-01685-00358128-00358399 positions of influence hopefully they +B9sqXlEA45g-01686-00358400-00358639 they really can start to +B9sqXlEA45g-01687-00358640-00358951 move or shift some of our thinking but i +B9sqXlEA45g-01688-00358952-00359071 think it's entirely +B9sqXlEA45g-01689-00359072-00359415 possible it's it is a um +B9sqXlEA45g-01690-00359416-00359647 boy if ever if ever an opportunity +B9sqXlEA45g-01691-00359648-00359815 presented itself to think about +B9sqXlEA45g-01692-00359816-00360071 big new bold ideas it's you know climate +B9sqXlEA45g-01693-00360072-00360127 change +B9sqXlEA45g-01694-00360128-00360351 global pandemic coming to terms with +B9sqXlEA45g-01695-00360352-00360606 racism i mean you've got all these big +B9sqXlEA45g-01696-00360607-00360951 big things happening right now um +B9sqXlEA45g-01697-00360952-00361119 we should be we should be challenging +B9sqXlEA45g-01698-00361120-00361319 everything yeah +B9sqXlEA45g-01699-00361320-00361575 so i got i got uh two two more sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-01700-00361576-00361647 sci-fi +B9sqXlEA45g-01701-00361648-00361839 type questions for you for around +B9sqXlEA45g-01702-00361840-00361967 transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01703-00361968-00362278 so one is you know i spent uh i spent +B9sqXlEA45g-01704-00362279-00362606 uh a year in england and i didn't have a +B9sqXlEA45g-01705-00362607-00362823 car and didn't need a car and +B9sqXlEA45g-01706-00362824-00363015 the public transportation system was +B9sqXlEA45g-01707-00363016-00363151 awesome +B9sqXlEA45g-01708-00363152-00363415 so far the the solution the capitalist +B9sqXlEA45g-01709-00363416-00363519 solution to +B9sqXlEA45g-01710-00363520-00363815 transportation in america has been +B9sqXlEA45g-01711-00363816-00363887 individual +B9sqXlEA45g-01712-00363888-00364182 like the based on the individual car and +B9sqXlEA45g-01713-00364183-00364399 arguably you know all the +B9sqXlEA45g-01714-00364400-00364719 expenditures on from tesla like you +B9sqXlEA45g-01715-00364720-00364999 you could you know you just buy buses +B9sqXlEA45g-01716-00365000-00365063 you know like +B9sqXlEA45g-01717-00365064-00365351 green buses could be more efficient and +B9sqXlEA45g-01718-00365352-00365423 sort of move +B9sqXlEA45g-01719-00365424-00365727 like is is there a space for for public +B9sqXlEA45g-01720-00365728-00365830 transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01721-00365831-00365975 maybe it's it's a different conversation +B9sqXlEA45g-01722-00365976-00366134 after covid +B9sqXlEA45g-01723-00366135-00366423 but for sort of commons as opposed to +B9sqXlEA45g-01724-00366424-00366527 individual +B9sqXlEA45g-01725-00366528-00366775 you know consumer solutions so let's +B9sqXlEA45g-01726-00366776-00366999 think about it as a system where i think +B9sqXlEA45g-01727-00367000-00367230 public transportation for moving big +B9sqXlEA45g-01728-00367231-00367310 chunks of +B9sqXlEA45g-01729-00367311-00367534 you know big groups of people around is +B9sqXlEA45g-01730-00367535-00367647 a is +B9sqXlEA45g-01731-00367648-00367791 going to be a important part of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01732-00367792-00367982 system but i also think +B9sqXlEA45g-01733-00367983-00368287 um there's going to be uh micro mobility +B9sqXlEA45g-01734-00368288-00368447 solutions +B9sqXlEA45g-01735-00368448-00368751 that are going to be more um dominant in +B9sqXlEA45g-01736-00368752-00368975 certain areas like cities so things like +B9sqXlEA45g-01737-00368976-00369223 electric scooters electric bikes +B9sqXlEA45g-01738-00369224-00369534 even very small electric cars +B9sqXlEA45g-01739-00369535-00369863 that can get people to um to specific +B9sqXlEA45g-01740-00369864-00370015 areas one of the biggest issues with +B9sqXlEA45g-01741-00370016-00370158 transit +B9sqXlEA45g-01742-00370159-00370478 is that last mile problem right where +B9sqXlEA45g-01743-00370479-00370703 transit and we know this from working +B9sqXlEA45g-01744-00370704-00370975 with communities in urban areas that +B9sqXlEA45g-01745-00370976-00371039 don't have +B9sqXlEA45g-01746-00371040-00371334 cars and they have to rely on transit to +B9sqXlEA45g-01747-00371335-00371551 bring them to jobs and +B9sqXlEA45g-01748-00371552-00371743 and and other things they may need and +B9sqXlEA45g-01749-00371744-00371927 the transit only takes them so far +B9sqXlEA45g-01750-00371928-00372134 so there's a there is a way to solve +B9sqXlEA45g-01751-00372135-00372334 this where you combine +B9sqXlEA45g-01752-00372335-00372630 transit and micro mobility solutions and +B9sqXlEA45g-01753-00372631-00372847 then i think in between there are always +B9sqXlEA45g-01754-00372848-00372895 i mean +B9sqXlEA45g-01755-00372896-00373310 i think driving um is is very american +B9sqXlEA45g-01756-00373311-00373471 and i'm not sure that ever really goes +B9sqXlEA45g-01757-00373472-00373719 away just as just as when you were +B9sqXlEA45g-01758-00373720-00373943 hypothesizing that maybe car ownership +B9sqXlEA45g-01759-00373944-00374071 goes away +B9sqXlEA45g-01760-00374072-00374271 i think um a lot of people are going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01761-00374272-00374454 opt not to have cars but i think there's +B9sqXlEA45g-01762-00374455-00374582 there may be some people that always are +B9sqXlEA45g-01763-00374583-00374727 going to want to have cars i i don't +B9sqXlEA45g-01764-00374728-00374910 know how big that population is going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01765-00374911-00375063 be and maybe it depends on if you're +B9sqXlEA45g-01766-00375064-00375239 more of a rural person +B9sqXlEA45g-01767-00375240-00375487 or an urban person and you know how much +B9sqXlEA45g-01768-00375488-00375639 you like to track off and +B9sqXlEA45g-01769-00375640-00375895 and explore yeah so if we're going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01770-00375896-00376087 have these micro mobility solutions +B9sqXlEA45g-01771-00376088-00376278 they're going to be piloted by humans +B9sqXlEA45g-01772-00376279-00376447 presumably cars and scooters aren't +B9sqXlEA45g-01773-00376448-00376639 going to be autonomous +B9sqXlEA45g-01774-00376640-00376951 i mean bicycles and scooters um do we +B9sqXlEA45g-01775-00376952-00377158 get our own lanes then so we don't mess +B9sqXlEA45g-01776-00377159-00377230 up the +B9sqXlEA45g-01777-00377231-00377606 autonomous uh motorized vehicle +B9sqXlEA45g-01778-00377607-00377847 oh i love that question because you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01779-00377848-00377943 it's kind of this +B9sqXlEA45g-01780-00377944-00378127 new approach and you're thinking about +B9sqXlEA45g-01781-00378128-00378351 urban planning and i've seen some things +B9sqXlEA45g-01782-00378352-00378519 about you know reimagining +B9sqXlEA45g-01783-00378520-00378678 uh because of coven and because of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01784-00378679-00378799 different work habits you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01785-00378800-00379030 reimagining cities +B9sqXlEA45g-01786-00379031-00379295 and the lanes and more pedestrian spaces +B9sqXlEA45g-01787-00379296-00379406 and you know if you've seen what's +B9sqXlEA45g-01788-00379407-00379567 happened in new york over the last 10 or +B9sqXlEA45g-01789-00379568-00379599 20 +B9sqXlEA45g-01790-00379600-00379751 years you know new york became a much +B9sqXlEA45g-01791-00379752-00379958 more livable place with outdoor areas +B9sqXlEA45g-01792-00379959-00380134 and tables and chairs and +B9sqXlEA45g-01793-00380135-00380351 bike lanes and places people could sit +B9sqXlEA45g-01794-00380352-00380543 but now it's being contemplated as the +B9sqXlEA45g-01795-00380544-00380734 entirety of midtown +B9sqXlEA45g-01796-00380735-00381063 and so many offices or play companies +B9sqXlEA45g-01797-00381064-00381271 that may not elect to return to midtown +B9sqXlEA45g-01798-00381272-00381399 they're thinking about you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01799-00381400-00381678 converting some of that to residential +B9sqXlEA45g-01800-00381679-00381863 and when you think i mean that that can +B9sqXlEA45g-01801-00381864-00382030 really start to change +B9sqXlEA45g-01802-00382031-00382287 um how a city could be imagined and what +B9sqXlEA45g-01803-00382288-00382430 it could look like +B9sqXlEA45g-01804-00382431-00382623 and and you are going to need those +B9sqXlEA45g-01805-00382624-00382910 different areas right for certain kinds +B9sqXlEA45g-01806-00382911-00383030 of mobility +B9sqXlEA45g-01807-00383031-00383239 um options you know you don't really +B9sqXlEA45g-01808-00383240-00383399 want a transit bus sharing a land with +B9sqXlEA45g-01809-00383400-00383695 an electric scooter +B9sqXlEA45g-01810-00383696-00384015 i will say you know electric bikes are a +B9sqXlEA45g-01811-00384016-00384263 huge industry right now the things that +B9sqXlEA45g-01812-00384264-00384367 have been growing +B9sqXlEA45g-01813-00384368-00384687 pre-pandemic i was on one i'm i'm i'm a +B9sqXlEA45g-01814-00384688-00384775 bike snob +B9sqXlEA45g-01815-00384776-00384991 like why do i need a motor i was on one +B9sqXlEA45g-01816-00384992-00385143 in new orleans +B9sqXlEA45g-01817-00385144-00385495 um a year ago it was so much fun +B9sqXlEA45g-01818-00385496-00385806 well i'll tell you i love it because i +B9sqXlEA45g-01819-00385807-00386030 i was in bermuda a few years ago and my +B9sqXlEA45g-01820-00386031-00386167 husband she doesn't +B9sqXlEA45g-01821-00386168-00386502 really love to bike mostly he's a little +B9sqXlEA45g-01822-00386503-00386639 older than i am and +B9sqXlEA45g-01823-00386640-00386815 you know a lot of people have an +B9sqXlEA45g-01824-00386816-00387023 electric cars we call it range anxiety +B9sqXlEA45g-01825-00387024-00387206 fear of running out of charge +B9sqXlEA45g-01826-00387207-00387382 well for people on bikes you know we +B9sqXlEA45g-01827-00387383-00387606 might call it like elevation anxiety +B9sqXlEA45g-01828-00387607-00387719 because you know how am i going to do +B9sqXlEA45g-01829-00387720-00387782 that +B9sqXlEA45g-01830-00387783-00388158 right but when you have an electric bike +B9sqXlEA45g-01831-00388159-00388391 it takes all that away so maybe people +B9sqXlEA45g-01832-00388392-00388463 that didn't +B9sqXlEA45g-01833-00388464-00388727 bike before you know would consider +B9sqXlEA45g-01834-00388728-00388806 biking now +B9sqXlEA45g-01835-00388807-00389087 i just know in bermuda i spent literally +B9sqXlEA45g-01836-00389088-00389254 two and a half hours +B9sqXlEA45g-01837-00389255-00389599 on my bike pedaling most of the time +B9sqXlEA45g-01838-00389600-00389799 right it's not like i wasn't getting any +B9sqXlEA45g-01839-00389800-00390006 exercise but if i felt like i needed to +B9sqXlEA45g-01840-00390007-00390063 cheat +B9sqXlEA45g-01841-00390064-00390430 it was there for me yeah that +B9sqXlEA45g-01842-00390431-00390575 it's it's so interesting that an +B9sqXlEA45g-01843-00390576-00390854 electric bike is such a game changer +B9sqXlEA45g-01844-00390855-00391110 because i remember this now 20 years ago +B9sqXlEA45g-01845-00391111-00391327 being tantalized by +B9sqXlEA45g-01846-00391328-00391678 i don't know if you remember this um +B9sqXlEA45g-01847-00391679-00392119 project ginger by dean dean cayman +B9sqXlEA45g-01848-00392120-00392327 so he was dean cayman was this inventor +B9sqXlEA45g-01849-00392328-00392454 just sort of you know he was like +B9sqXlEA45g-01850-00392455-00392687 elon musk of his day like crazy smart he +B9sqXlEA45g-01851-00392688-00392791 had invented +B9sqXlEA45g-01852-00392792-00393095 a wheelchair that goes upstairs based on +B9sqXlEA45g-01853-00393096-00393254 it was gyroscopic it was +B9sqXlEA45g-01854-00393255-00393454 obviously a very small market and then +B9sqXlEA45g-01855-00393455-00393663 he announced this other project +B9sqXlEA45g-01856-00393664-00393823 that was going to change the world and +B9sqXlEA45g-01857-00393824-00393982 like steve jobs and all these +B9sqXlEA45g-01858-00393983-00394295 all these tech jillionaires and +B9sqXlEA45g-01859-00394296-00394527 titans were where nobody was saying what +B9sqXlEA45g-01860-00394528-00394647 it was but they were all +B9sqXlEA45g-01861-00394648-00394791 saying this is going to change the world +B9sqXlEA45g-01862-00394792-00394975 completely steve jobs said this is the +B9sqXlEA45g-01863-00394976-00395287 biggest invention since the computer +B9sqXlEA45g-01864-00395288-00396071 you know what it was the segway +B9sqXlEA45g-01865-00396072-00396254 they stopped making them the company's +B9sqXlEA45g-01866-00396255-00396415 like gone +B9sqXlEA45g-01867-00396416-00396663 this like this was our thinking 20 years +B9sqXlEA45g-01868-00396664-00396751 ago like +B9sqXlEA45g-01869-00396752-00396919 this is going to change urban planning +B9sqXlEA45g-01870-00396920-00397078 this is going to change the world +B9sqXlEA45g-01871-00397079-00397375 and it turned out to be such a dud i +B9sqXlEA45g-01872-00397376-00397519 mean the technology is kind of +B9sqXlEA45g-01873-00397520-00397591 interesting +B9sqXlEA45g-01874-00397592-00397919 and is moving into into other platforms +B9sqXlEA45g-01875-00397920-00398110 but like this conversation with you is +B9sqXlEA45g-01876-00398111-00398287 like just sort of mind-blowing about +B9sqXlEA45g-01877-00398288-00398519 what we could imagine +B9sqXlEA45g-01878-00398520-00398839 wait a second wait a second i mean i +B9sqXlEA45g-01879-00398840-00399015 now you've got me so curious i'll have +B9sqXlEA45g-01880-00399016-00399143 to go and follow up about like +B9sqXlEA45g-01881-00399144-00399391 why segway failed because i by the way +B9sqXlEA45g-01882-00399392-00399599 i've never been on a segway i've always +B9sqXlEA45g-01883-00399600-00399887 wanted to try because they look so cool +B9sqXlEA45g-01884-00399888-00400039 but i've never been on one +B9sqXlEA45g-01885-00400040-00400254 clearly they they proliferated in law +B9sqXlEA45g-01886-00400255-00400482 enforcement or at least mall cops you +B9sqXlEA45g-01887-00400483-00400567 know he's +B9sqXlEA45g-01888-00400568-00400878 there um but i i yeah +B9sqXlEA45g-01889-00400879-00401271 why didn't that happen +B9sqXlEA45g-01890-00401272-00401615 i mean hard to say right so you know but +B9sqXlEA45g-01891-00401616-00401902 but but i mean ultimately it wasn't that +B9sqXlEA45g-01892-00401903-00402078 imaginative +B9sqXlEA45g-01893-00402079-00402302 it was sort of like individual solutions +B9sqXlEA45g-01894-00402303-00402454 and i i kind of like i had a +B9sqXlEA45g-01895-00402455-00402727 tiny fear about this conversation just +B9sqXlEA45g-01896-00402728-00402823 being like really +B9sqXlEA45g-01897-00402824-00403191 wonky and technical about issues of +B9sqXlEA45g-01898-00403192-00403391 you know transportation and charging +B9sqXlEA45g-01899-00403392-00403510 stations and instead +B9sqXlEA45g-01900-00403511-00403815 it's like this most you know wild +B9sqXlEA45g-01901-00403816-00404095 psychedelic futuristic discussion of +B9sqXlEA45g-01902-00404096-00404263 what humanity could be +B9sqXlEA45g-01903-00404264-00404543 on this earth part part of an ecosystem +B9sqXlEA45g-01904-00404544-00404647 rather than +B9sqXlEA45g-01905-00404648-00404910 glommed on top of it sucking all the the +B9sqXlEA45g-01906-00404911-00405143 resources up +B9sqXlEA45g-01907-00405144-00405254 and you know one thing we haven't +B9sqXlEA45g-01908-00405255-00405510 touched on although it's a topic that's +B9sqXlEA45g-01909-00405511-00405727 a favorite of mine is you know when you +B9sqXlEA45g-01910-00405728-00405863 were talking before about +B9sqXlEA45g-01911-00405864-00406119 um being more gentle um with the earth +B9sqXlEA45g-01912-00406120-00406239 and living in harmony +B9sqXlEA45g-01913-00406240-00406463 with it as opposed to trying to dominate +B9sqXlEA45g-01914-00406464-00406678 it yeah i think one of the things that +B9sqXlEA45g-01915-00406679-00406895 happens over the next 10 or 20 years +B9sqXlEA45g-01916-00406896-00407087 is that we start to understand +B9sqXlEA45g-01917-00407088-00407215 everything we never +B9sqXlEA45g-01918-00407216-00407606 really imagined when it comes to animals +B9sqXlEA45g-01919-00407607-00407839 and um i mean i have as you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01920-00407840-00408047 chickens two dogs two cats +B9sqXlEA45g-01921-00408048-00408278 i love animals i would have a goat and a +B9sqXlEA45g-01922-00408279-00408367 llama or +B9sqXlEA45g-01923-00408368-00408615 i'd lose a husband i've been told so i'd +B9sqXlEA45g-01924-00408616-00408687 probably get +B9sqXlEA45g-01925-00408688-00408871 more animals and i don't live on a farm +B9sqXlEA45g-01926-00408872-00409015 that's another issue +B9sqXlEA45g-01927-00409016-00409406 um but i think we're going to +B9sqXlEA45g-01928-00409407-00409759 start to appreciate and understand +B9sqXlEA45g-01929-00409760-00409974 and and maybe really react in horror +B9sqXlEA45g-01930-00409975-00410230 about what our relationship with animals +B9sqXlEA45g-01931-00410231-00410614 and even animals for food uh has been +B9sqXlEA45g-01932-00410615-00410863 um i think that's an understanding and +B9sqXlEA45g-01933-00410864-00410966 an awareness +B9sqXlEA45g-01934-00410967-00411310 that is is going to uh reveal itself +B9sqXlEA45g-01935-00411312-00411510 in the next 10 to 20 years well +B9sqXlEA45g-01936-00411512-00411695 especially regarding transportation like +B9sqXlEA45g-01937-00411696-00411743 which +B9sqXlEA45g-01938-00411743-00411910 we know we i you know i certainly think +B9sqXlEA45g-01939-00411912-00412134 about animals for food all the time +B9sqXlEA45g-01940-00412135-00412455 but like the way transportation has +B9sqXlEA45g-01941-00412456-00412855 harmed animals in terms of highways +B9sqXlEA45g-01942-00412856-00413247 either you know cutting off +B9sqXlEA45g-01943-00413247-00413559 habitat so or roadkill +B9sqXlEA45g-01944-00413560-00413791 or just you know like uh marine +B9sqXlEA45g-01945-00413792-00413918 transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01946-00413919-00414110 like the way you know whales and +B9sqXlEA45g-01947-00414112-00414343 dolphins going nuts because of all the +B9sqXlEA45g-01948-00414343-00414574 sounds +B9sqXlEA45g-01949-00414575-00414718 and again we don't even know what we +B9sqXlEA45g-01950-00414719-00414870 don't know you know they just discovered +B9sqXlEA45g-01951-00414871-00415070 they think we just discovered a pod of +B9sqXlEA45g-01952-00415071-00415143 orchids +B9sqXlEA45g-01953-00415143-00415318 that could be a new species i was +B9sqXlEA45g-01954-00415319-00415534 reading about and you know and somebody +B9sqXlEA45g-01955-00415535-00415718 wrote you know this is just this just +B9sqXlEA45g-01956-00415719-00415887 underscores how much we don't understand +B9sqXlEA45g-01957-00415888-00416087 about what's in our ocean +B9sqXlEA45g-01958-00416088-00416407 living in our ocean you know um but it +B9sqXlEA45g-01959-00416408-00416566 it feels to me as though +B9sqXlEA45g-01960-00416567-00417014 that that's going to be a a new um +B9sqXlEA45g-01961-00417015-00417295 kind of a new awareness for us and it +B9sqXlEA45g-01962-00417296-00417503 does come back to transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01963-00417504-00417614 transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-01964-00417615-00417895 has you know it's really the ability of +B9sqXlEA45g-01965-00417896-00418039 how we move around +B9sqXlEA45g-01966-00418039-00418334 on on our planet um and how we sort of +B9sqXlEA45g-01967-00418335-00418439 do our day-to-day +B9sqXlEA45g-01968-00418439-00418647 and and you know the growth of the +B9sqXlEA45g-01969-00418647-00418807 suburbs was made possible +B9sqXlEA45g-01970-00418808-00419039 because of all the support that was +B9sqXlEA45g-01971-00419039-00419126 given for +B9sqXlEA45g-01972-00419127-00419463 highways and and and cars and +B9sqXlEA45g-01973-00419464-00419687 that entire system that brought us out +B9sqXlEA45g-01974-00419688-00419927 of cities you know that made all of that +B9sqXlEA45g-01975-00419928-00420135 possible the growth of the places like +B9sqXlEA45g-01976-00420135-00420343 the levitt towns you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01977-00420343-00420551 um it was all because of the car and +B9sqXlEA45g-01978-00420552-00420751 what's what's funny is when i talk to +B9sqXlEA45g-01979-00420752-00421063 um urban planners today and +B9sqXlEA45g-01980-00421064-00421399 and other environmentally minded uh +B9sqXlEA45g-01981-00421400-00421735 planners uh you know they always start +B9sqXlEA45g-01982-00421735-00422070 with cars are bad they they do +B9sqXlEA45g-01983-00422071-00422287 start from that place cars are bad +B9sqXlEA45g-01984-00422288-00422431 there's you know cars come with all this +B9sqXlEA45g-01985-00422432-00422639 required infrastructure and +B9sqXlEA45g-01986-00422639-00422959 you know i'm trying to imagine +B9sqXlEA45g-01987-00422960-00423270 could we get to a place where we say +B9sqXlEA45g-01988-00423271-00423583 cars aren't cars aren't necessarily +B9sqXlEA45g-01989-00423584-00423943 bad um i'm not you know +B9sqXlEA45g-01990-00423943-00424263 density is is is i think +B9sqXlEA45g-01991-00424264-00424535 generally speaking good for human +B9sqXlEA45g-01992-00424535-00424655 populations i +B9sqXlEA45g-01993-00424656-00424863 i like cities i like what happens when +B9sqXlEA45g-01994-00424864-00425022 people are sort of pushed together and +B9sqXlEA45g-01995-00425023-00425151 required to get along +B9sqXlEA45g-01996-00425152-00425351 and you see a lot of innovation and +B9sqXlEA45g-01997-00425352-00425607 energy human energy that come out of +B9sqXlEA45g-01998-00425608-00425918 cities right and denser populations +B9sqXlEA45g-01999-00425919-00426214 but we're always going to have that +B9sqXlEA45g-02000-00426215-00426318 rural +B9sqXlEA45g-02001-00426319-00426735 sort of urban divide +B9sqXlEA45g-02002-00426735-00426927 there's always going to be people that +B9sqXlEA45g-02003-00426928-00427079 either prefer or want to make their +B9sqXlEA45g-02004-00427080-00427287 livelihood living in sort of more rural +B9sqXlEA45g-02005-00427288-00427414 areas there's always going to be people +B9sqXlEA45g-02006-00427415-00427510 that are going to prefer +B9sqXlEA45g-02007-00427512-00427943 more urban areas and linking them +B9sqXlEA45g-02008-00427943-00428255 is also really really important and +B9sqXlEA45g-02009-00428256-00428447 it reminds me one of the things i wanted +B9sqXlEA45g-02010-00428447-00428759 to bring up on this call +B9sqXlEA45g-02011-00428760-00429079 was a farm uh up +B9sqXlEA45g-02012-00429080-00429375 in north jersey ironbound farm which +B9sqXlEA45g-02013-00429376-00429583 it's run by a friend of mine but +B9sqXlEA45g-02014-00429584-00429735 here's a guy i thought you might find +B9sqXlEA45g-02015-00429735-00429895 this interesting you know he's a +B9sqXlEA45g-02016-00429896-00430079 committed environmentalist but he's also +B9sqXlEA45g-02017-00430080-00430207 trying to he's got +B9sqXlEA45g-02018-00430208-00430527 a lot of interest in reforming um +B9sqXlEA45g-02019-00430528-00430695 criminals people that have previously +B9sqXlEA45g-02020-00430696-00430910 been incarcerated +B9sqXlEA45g-02021-00430912-00431014 people that have previously been +B9sqXlEA45g-02022-00431015-00431231 incarcerated and trying to bridge the +B9sqXlEA45g-02023-00431232-00431439 sort of urban rural divide +B9sqXlEA45g-02024-00431439-00431631 he has a property in hunterdon county +B9sqXlEA45g-02025-00431632-00431766 where he makes cider +B9sqXlEA45g-02026-00431767-00432047 and he brings people from newark new +B9sqXlEA45g-02027-00432047-00432175 jersey that have been previously +B9sqXlEA45g-02028-00432176-00432359 incarcerated that have been working his +B9sqXlEA45g-02029-00432360-00432431 farm +B9sqXlEA45g-02030-00432432-00432687 for the last four years and the farm is +B9sqXlEA45g-02031-00432688-00432831 all sustainably based +B9sqXlEA45g-02032-00432832-00433007 and incorporating lots of different +B9sqXlEA45g-02033-00433008-00433222 crops and trying to basically figure out +B9sqXlEA45g-02034-00433223-00433303 these +B9sqXlEA45g-02035-00433304-00433614 and unlock these magical synergies that +B9sqXlEA45g-02036-00433615-00433879 happen you know um in a in a truly +B9sqXlEA45g-02037-00433880-00434039 organic and sustainable +B9sqXlEA45g-02038-00434039-00434318 small farm and and kind of create a an +B9sqXlEA45g-02039-00434319-00434510 economy in a community that's very local +B9sqXlEA45g-02040-00434512-00434575 based +B9sqXlEA45g-02041-00434576-00434895 but it gets to this point of this urban +B9sqXlEA45g-02042-00434896-00435207 and rural um +B9sqXlEA45g-02043-00435208-00435407 these are two really different +B9sqXlEA45g-02044-00435408-00435518 populations +B9sqXlEA45g-02045-00435519-00435727 and the more that we can link them in +B9sqXlEA45g-02046-00435728-00435855 meaningful ways +B9sqXlEA45g-02047-00435856-00436063 i think the better off we'll be yeah i +B9sqXlEA45g-02048-00436064-00436214 mean when i look at sort of the you know +B9sqXlEA45g-02049-00436215-00436247 the +B9sqXlEA45g-02050-00436247-00436566 broad sweep of history cities don't seem +B9sqXlEA45g-02051-00436567-00436799 to have been sustainable +B9sqXlEA45g-02052-00436800-00436999 right like they when you look at like +B9sqXlEA45g-02053-00437000-00437159 where the big cities were in the middle +B9sqXlEA45g-02054-00437160-00437270 east the first cities +B9sqXlEA45g-02055-00437271-00437455 it's desert now right and it wasn't +B9sqXlEA45g-02056-00437456-00437607 desert then they didn't build the city +B9sqXlEA45g-02057-00437608-00437695 and like hey this +B9sqXlEA45g-02058-00437696-00437910 look at all this sand and rock let's put +B9sqXlEA45g-02059-00437912-00438007 something here +B9sqXlEA45g-02060-00438008-00438270 right they were like lush and so the +B9sqXlEA45g-02061-00438271-00438503 history of cities has been +B9sqXlEA45g-02062-00438504-00438855 the power in the city sucks the rural +B9sqXlEA45g-02063-00438856-00439022 area dry +B9sqXlEA45g-02064-00439023-00439255 and like can we can are we going to keep +B9sqXlEA45g-02065-00439256-00439383 doing that until +B9sqXlEA45g-02066-00439384-00439655 like the world is destroyed or you know +B9sqXlEA45g-02067-00439656-00439799 because like new york is like vibrant +B9sqXlEA45g-02068-00439800-00440022 and great in tokyo and chicago and san +B9sqXlEA45g-02069-00440023-00440118 francisco +B9sqXlEA45g-02070-00440119-00440431 like over 100 years or 200 years maybe +B9sqXlEA45g-02071-00440432-00440614 but a thousand years +B9sqXlEA45g-02072-00440615-00440822 the way we do cities has not been +B9sqXlEA45g-02073-00440823-00441022 sustainable so it's like +B9sqXlEA45g-02074-00441023-00441166 i wonder if there's urban planners who +B9sqXlEA45g-02075-00441167-00441318 are looking you know with a real +B9sqXlEA45g-02076-00441319-00441583 historical eye to what would it take +B9sqXlEA45g-02077-00441584-00441847 to create something where the city +B9sqXlEA45g-02078-00441847-00442063 ecosystem is regenerative +B9sqXlEA45g-02079-00442064-00442399 rather than creating deficits +B9sqXlEA45g-02080-00442400-00442735 yeah i i a few years ago i ran across +B9sqXlEA45g-02081-00442735-00442959 some writing about this idea that you +B9sqXlEA45g-02082-00442960-00443159 know if you just take kind of an urban +B9sqXlEA45g-02083-00443160-00443207 area +B9sqXlEA45g-02084-00443208-00443447 and you start to build out concentric +B9sqXlEA45g-02085-00443447-00443543 circles right +B9sqXlEA45g-02086-00443543-00443831 around it where the food production is +B9sqXlEA45g-02087-00443832-00443910 an example +B9sqXlEA45g-02088-00443912-00444118 is kind of happening on the wide +B9sqXlEA45g-02089-00444119-00444431 periphery right and is able to support +B9sqXlEA45g-02090-00444432-00444751 the urban you know that urban area +B9sqXlEA45g-02091-00444752-00445095 um and so it's sort of a self-sustaining +B9sqXlEA45g-02092-00445096-00445470 ecosystem but it does take into account +B9sqXlEA45g-02093-00445471-00445766 urban populations ex-urban populations +B9sqXlEA45g-02094-00445767-00446022 and then more rural populations +B9sqXlEA45g-02095-00446023-00446247 uh in a way that that's mutually +B9sqXlEA45g-02096-00446247-00446343 supporting +B9sqXlEA45g-02097-00446343-00446527 right um and that's kind of an +B9sqXlEA45g-02098-00446528-00446663 interesting and again when we're talking +B9sqXlEA45g-02099-00446664-00446743 about +B9sqXlEA45g-02100-00446743-00446943 new economies that's kind of an +B9sqXlEA45g-02101-00446943-00447239 interesting and new way to think about +B9sqXlEA45g-02102-00447239-00447510 um how how communities could be built to +B9sqXlEA45g-02103-00447512-00447566 exist +B9sqXlEA45g-02104-00447567-00447759 and their sort of commonality right +B9sqXlEA45g-02105-00447760-00447999 their common shared purpose +B9sqXlEA45g-02106-00448000-00448270 in in preserving that outer ring and and +B9sqXlEA45g-02107-00448271-00448399 everything that goes on +B9sqXlEA45g-02108-00448400-00448718 on in on the sort of inner core and +B9sqXlEA45g-02109-00448719-00449022 and helping them um interrelate +B9sqXlEA45g-02110-00449023-00449247 i i get interested in that stuff because +B9sqXlEA45g-02111-00449247-00449439 i see when you look at our politics +B9sqXlEA45g-02112-00449439-00449647 today and when you look at the +B9sqXlEA45g-02113-00449647-00449983 electoral map and you see rural +B9sqXlEA45g-02114-00449984-00450214 looking a certain way and you see urban +B9sqXlEA45g-02115-00450215-00450399 looking a certain way +B9sqXlEA45g-02116-00450400-00450727 we you need to start figuring out how we +B9sqXlEA45g-02117-00450728-00451031 um talk to each other and maybe how i +B9sqXlEA45g-02118-00451032-00451255 relate this back to transportation +B9sqXlEA45g-02119-00451256-00451599 is you know how we're moving the goods +B9sqXlEA45g-02120-00451600-00451727 and services +B9sqXlEA45g-02121-00451728-00451983 and people and relationships that are +B9sqXlEA45g-02122-00451984-00452183 essential to life +B9sqXlEA45g-02123-00452184-00452527 and linking them um in these ways that +B9sqXlEA45g-02124-00452528-00452551 are +B9sqXlEA45g-02125-00452552-00452710 that take into consideration everything +B9sqXlEA45g-02126-00452712-00452959 we need to live which is both +B9sqXlEA45g-02127-00452960-00453143 you know some of that's rule-based and +B9sqXlEA45g-02128-00453143-00453407 some of that's more urban-based +B9sqXlEA45g-02129-00453408-00453663 yeah and it's so interesting because i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-02130-00453664-00453822 thinking back to what you said about the +B9sqXlEA45g-02131-00453823-00453999 messenger rna +B9sqXlEA45g-02132-00454000-00454366 around like science has made probably a +B9sqXlEA45g-02133-00454367-00454591 giant leap forward in immunology +B9sqXlEA45g-02134-00454592-00455022 by mimicking by by being again humble +B9sqXlEA45g-02135-00455023-00455207 about what we know and just letting +B9sqXlEA45g-02136-00455208-00455383 nature do its thing +B9sqXlEA45g-02137-00455384-00455614 and like we probably know so much more +B9sqXlEA45g-02138-00455615-00455775 now than we did even five or ten years +B9sqXlEA45g-02139-00455776-00455887 ago about +B9sqXlEA45g-02140-00455888-00456127 how nature communicates within itself +B9sqXlEA45g-02141-00456128-00456303 with you know mycology +B9sqXlEA45g-02142-00456304-00456591 and and the fungal networks how we know +B9sqXlEA45g-02143-00456592-00456807 that trees talk to each other +B9sqXlEA45g-02144-00456808-00457047 that may you know maybe we can stop +B9sqXlEA45g-02145-00457047-00457263 being so hubristic and say like +B9sqXlEA45g-02146-00457264-00457647 we can create transportation in concert +B9sqXlEA45g-02147-00457647-00457695 like +B9sqXlEA45g-02148-00457696-00458095 we could biomimic um +B9sqXlEA45g-02149-00458096-00458270 the way nature moves things because +B9sqXlEA45g-02150-00458271-00458407 nature moves things incredibly +B9sqXlEA45g-02151-00458408-00458559 efficiently +B9sqXlEA45g-02152-00458560-00458814 yes actually that that whole field you +B9sqXlEA45g-02153-00458815-00458918 know i think after i +B9sqXlEA45g-02154-00458919-00459095 was just starting out today i think one +B9sqXlEA45g-02155-00459096-00459231 of the most interesting things to +B9sqXlEA45g-02156-00459232-00459295 explore +B9sqXlEA45g-02157-00459296-00459503 is all about like the most intelligent +B9sqXlEA45g-02158-00459504-00459727 designer which is our natural systems +B9sqXlEA45g-02159-00459728-00459959 and really trying to mimic as best we +B9sqXlEA45g-02160-00459960-00460070 can +B9sqXlEA45g-02161-00460071-00460366 what nature's doing out there um because +B9sqXlEA45g-02162-00460367-00460527 it's fascinating and +B9sqXlEA45g-02163-00460528-00460783 you know creating materials that that +B9sqXlEA45g-02164-00460784-00460951 mimic what nature does but the +B9sqXlEA45g-02165-00460952-00461214 cell itself and how things transport +B9sqXlEA45g-02166-00461215-00461335 right back and forth +B9sqXlEA45g-02167-00461335-00461655 into a cell um it's it's it's +B9sqXlEA45g-02168-00461656-00461743 fascinating +B9sqXlEA45g-02169-00461743-00462047 and uh um kind of a new way to think +B9sqXlEA45g-02170-00462047-00462214 about transportation i hadn't really +B9sqXlEA45g-02171-00462215-00462510 thought about before +B9sqXlEA45g-02172-00462512-00462807 yeah i mean like nature is just this +B9sqXlEA45g-02173-00462808-00462879 giant +B9sqXlEA45g-02174-00462880-00463318 grid of of exchanges that's right +B9sqXlEA45g-02175-00463319-00463470 and that's and that's really what at the +B9sqXlEA45g-02176-00463471-00463566 end of the day that's what the +B9sqXlEA45g-02177-00463567-00463751 transportation system is supposed to be +B9sqXlEA45g-02178-00463752-00463918 right it's supposed to enable us to make +B9sqXlEA45g-02179-00463919-00464127 these exchanges efficiently and +B9sqXlEA45g-02180-00464128-00464295 and hopefully in a way that's not doing +B9sqXlEA45g-02181-00464296-00464543 damage to our earth +B9sqXlEA45g-02182-00464543-00464710 right right and as you said like you +B9sqXlEA45g-02183-00464712-00464935 know we want flows not fuels we also +B9sqXlEA45g-02184-00464935-00465014 want flows +B9sqXlEA45g-02185-00465015-00465359 not so much stocks so like if i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-02186-00465360-00465527 embedded in a system that is going to +B9sqXlEA45g-02187-00465528-00465718 deliver me what i need when i need it +B9sqXlEA45g-02188-00465719-00465910 i don't have to be so greedy i don't +B9sqXlEA45g-02189-00465912-00466063 have to live in fear +B9sqXlEA45g-02190-00466064-00466551 and hoard things oh yeah +B9sqXlEA45g-02191-00466552-00466718 yeah listen there have been a lot of +B9sqXlEA45g-02192-00466719-00466999 posts on social network over the last +B9sqXlEA45g-02193-00467000-00467063 year +B9sqXlEA45g-02194-00467064-00467455 where people are remarking about how +B9sqXlEA45g-02195-00467456-00467695 how much how little they really need to +B9sqXlEA45g-02196-00467696-00467766 live +B9sqXlEA45g-02197-00467767-00468103 right they don't need a lot of stuff um +B9sqXlEA45g-02198-00468104-00468359 and uh and and things can get a bit +B9sqXlEA45g-02199-00468360-00468535 simpler for all of us +B9sqXlEA45g-02200-00468535-00468743 and i love that idea that you just that +B9sqXlEA45g-02201-00468743-00468959 you just illustrated which is +B9sqXlEA45g-02202-00468960-00469214 you know if there's just an ease of how +B9sqXlEA45g-02203-00469215-00469407 um things can move around +B9sqXlEA45g-02204-00469408-00469759 um and scarcity doesn't become such a +B9sqXlEA45g-02205-00469760-00470087 issue for people um because people are +B9sqXlEA45g-02206-00470088-00470222 all treated with dignity +B9sqXlEA45g-02207-00470223-00470431 and and get what they need to lead to +B9sqXlEA45g-02208-00470432-00470535 live meaningful +B9sqXlEA45g-02209-00470535-00470855 and and and authentic lives +B9sqXlEA45g-02210-00470856-00471270 um a lot could change wow +B9sqXlEA45g-02211-00471271-00471503 i think that's a perfect uh exclamation +B9sqXlEA45g-02212-00471504-00471883 point to end the conversation +B9sqXlEA45g-02213-00471884-00472222 so thank you so much this is +B9sqXlEA45g-02214-00472223-00472375 this has been so much more than i was +B9sqXlEA45g-02215-00472376-00472583 thinking it was i had i had high hopes +B9sqXlEA45g-02216-00472584-00472718 but this is like +B9sqXlEA45g-02217-00472719-00473087 totally like inspiring and mind-blowing +B9sqXlEA45g-02218-00473088-00473151 and +B9sqXlEA45g-02219-00473152-00473343 and i love how you've put so many things +B9sqXlEA45g-02220-00473343-00473559 together so many different layers +B9sqXlEA45g-02221-00473560-00473799 and you're operating simultaneously on +B9sqXlEA45g-02222-00473800-00473975 the level of like +B9sqXlEA45g-02223-00473976-00474318 ecology and human spirit and +B9sqXlEA45g-02224-00474319-00474735 marketer and tactician +B9sqXlEA45g-02225-00474735-00475007 an organizer it's really inspiring i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-02226-00475008-00475055 i'm +B9sqXlEA45g-02227-00475056-00475343 so happy we've reconnected oh i am too +B9sqXlEA45g-02228-00475343-00475407 howie +B9sqXlEA45g-02229-00475408-00475735 um and i i i'm just become +B9sqXlEA45g-02230-00475735-00475935 so interested in some of the work that +B9sqXlEA45g-02231-00475935-00476103 you're doing and +B9sqXlEA45g-02232-00476104-00476391 also i i i want to apologize to any of +B9sqXlEA45g-02233-00476392-00476551 your audience i may have offended about +B9sqXlEA45g-02234-00476552-00476583 my +B9sqXlEA45g-02235-00476584-00476807 my probably really i didn't pull the +B9sqXlEA45g-02236-00476808-00477022 best example when i talked about +B9sqXlEA45g-02237-00477023-00477270 mobile slaughterhouses but it was the +B9sqXlEA45g-02238-00477271-00477422 thing that popped into my head but i +B9sqXlEA45g-02239-00477423-00477518 just want to say +B9sqXlEA45g-02240-00477519-00477791 to you i i've become really really +B9sqXlEA45g-02241-00477792-00477879 interested +B9sqXlEA45g-02242-00477880-00478255 in um just much more mindful eating +B9sqXlEA45g-02243-00478256-00478487 and health and i know maybe that's a +B9sqXlEA45g-02244-00478488-00478639 function of age too so i'm sure we'll +B9sqXlEA45g-02245-00478639-00478703 have a lot +B9sqXlEA45g-02246-00478704-00478999 to talk about after this podcast and uh +B9sqXlEA45g-02247-00479000-00479063 thank you +B9sqXlEA45g-02248-00479064-00479231 awesome we're good to reconnect because +B9sqXlEA45g-02249-00479232-00479407 i love learning about your wharf in your +B9sqXlEA45g-02250-00479408-00479510 world +B9sqXlEA45g-02251-00479512-00479679 all right well thank you and uh the +B9sqXlEA45g-02252-00479680-00479870 organization is +B9sqXlEA45g-02253-00479871-00480183 charge evc and there's only one e +B9sqXlEA45g-02254-00480184-00480514 right that's right so it's like +B9sqXlEA45g-02255-00480515-00480718 chargevc.org +B9sqXlEA45g-02256-00480719-00480959 for people who want to learn more all +B9sqXlEA45g-02257-00480960-00481135 right well pam frank thank you for this +B9sqXlEA45g-02258-00481135-00481318 amazing conversation and for all the +B9sqXlEA45g-02259-00481319-00481487 work you do in the world +B9sqXlEA45g-02260-00481488-00481759 thank you for all the work you do and um +B9sqXlEA45g-02261-00481760-00481895 here's to a really +B9sqXlEA45g-02262-00481896-00482318 much better 2021 yep amen +B9sqXlEA45g-02263-00482319-00482856 all right see ya +B9HSq_29QoM-00000-00000050-00000461 hi my name is Mae apple Duncan Harris +B9HSq_29QoM-00001-00000462-00000869 from barrio barillo City Philippines I +B9HSq_29QoM-00002-00000869-00001137 was talking to my mom how to be kind +B9HSq_29QoM-00003-00001138-00001406 then I saw the world and how it is +B9HSq_29QoM-00004-00001407-00001751 struggling with difficulties and I knew +B9HSq_29QoM-00005-00001752-00001964 that English is the universal language +B9HSq_29QoM-00006-00001964-00002225 that we would only use to communicate +B9HSq_29QoM-00007-00002226-00002429 with other people beyond our own +B9HSq_29QoM-00008-00002430-00002747 languages and then after you learned +B9HSq_29QoM-00009-00002748-00003109 English here in my country I decided to +B9HSq_29QoM-00010-00003110-00003340 spread kindness into the world by +B9HSq_29QoM-00011-00003342-00003608 teaching English so that I could help +B9HSq_29QoM-00012-00003609-00003936 people to create a lesser war and more +B9HSq_29QoM-00013-00003937-00004270 understanding between the barriers of +B9HSq_29QoM-00014-00004271-00004583 each country and also for the betterment +B9HSq_29QoM-00015-00004584-00004841 of their lives and making it more +B9HSq_29QoM-00016-00004842-00005177 successful as they wanted to be and for +B9HSq_29QoM-00017-00005178-00005470 the world's problem I just wanted to go +B9HSq_29QoM-00018-00005471-00005768 to view something in may very own simple +B9HSq_29QoM-00019-00005769-00006068 way I'm looking forward to hear back +B9HSq_29QoM-00020-00006069-00006469 from you thank you +BwjoCeUGfG8-00000-00000600-00000862 greetings this is gentian and today we +BwjoCeUGfG8-00001-00000863-00001154 are playing on minecraft +BwjoCeUGfG8-00002-00001155-00001566 1.19 on the demiurge server +BwjoCeUGfG8-00003-00001567-00001767 there are several projects i'd like to +BwjoCeUGfG8-00004-00001768-00002102 work on one is completion of this giant +BwjoCeUGfG8-00005-00002103-00002239 chest monster +BwjoCeUGfG8-00006-00002240-00002495 which won't be a monster once it has a +BwjoCeUGfG8-00007-00002496-00002655 sorting system +BwjoCeUGfG8-00008-00002656-00002910 either way to finish out putting the +BwjoCeUGfG8-00009-00002911-00003263 chests that belong here i need to remove +BwjoCeUGfG8-00010-00003264-00003638 the stone behind me let's do that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00011-00003639-00003863 and here we have +BwjoCeUGfG8-00012-00003864-00004283 three minutes of work reduced to a six +BwjoCeUGfG8-00013-00004284-00004463 seconds +BwjoCeUGfG8-00014-00004464-00004702 and let me ask you if you are not a +BwjoCeUGfG8-00015-00004703-00005070 subscriber now is the time to subscribe +BwjoCeUGfG8-00016-00005071-00005151 like +BwjoCeUGfG8-00017-00005152-00005327 and click the bell so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00018-00005328-00005591 you know when i produce videos +BwjoCeUGfG8-00019-00005592-00005927 now that i've completed that i have two +BwjoCeUGfG8-00020-00005928-00006215 things one i'll finish putting the +BwjoCeUGfG8-00021-00006216-00006375 chests up +BwjoCeUGfG8-00022-00006376-00006670 and two i need to build another room on +BwjoCeUGfG8-00023-00006672-00006942 the other side of this building so that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00024-00006943-00007078 i can +BwjoCeUGfG8-00025-00007079-00007255 build a +BwjoCeUGfG8-00026-00007256-00007527 super smelter +BwjoCeUGfG8-00027-00007528-00007851 let's go do that now +BwjoCeUGfG8-00028-00007852-00009216 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00030-00012348-00013505 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00031-00013506-00014127 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00032-00014128-00014418 okay i am back and i have +BwjoCeUGfG8-00033-00014419-00014551 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00034-00014552-00014863 mined out that area that i plan to use +BwjoCeUGfG8-00035-00014863-00015271 to create a smeltering system +BwjoCeUGfG8-00036-00015272-00015375 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00037-00015376-00015590 i have finished the chest monster +BwjoCeUGfG8-00038-00015591-00015750 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00039-00015751-00016038 as i stated earlier +BwjoCeUGfG8-00040-00016040-00016375 this should no longer be a chest monster +BwjoCeUGfG8-00041-00016376-00016839 once i have a sorting system in place +BwjoCeUGfG8-00042-00016840-00017111 what i want to show you now is some +BwjoCeUGfG8-00043-00017112-00017271 footage i took +BwjoCeUGfG8-00044-00017272-00017663 where i was mining along the bottom of +BwjoCeUGfG8-00045-00017664-00017830 the world +BwjoCeUGfG8-00046-00017831-00018222 searching for the deep dark +BwjoCeUGfG8-00047-00018223-00018599 let's go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00048-00018600-00018999 so i am tunneling along +BwjoCeUGfG8-00049-00019000-00019183 following my path +BwjoCeUGfG8-00050-00019184-00019527 and i run into lava +BwjoCeUGfG8-00051-00019528-00019879 this is how i work my way through it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00052-00019880-00020014 i get +BwjoCeUGfG8-00053-00020015-00020583 a large number of glass blocks +BwjoCeUGfG8-00054-00020584-00020894 and i have this back here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00055-00020895-00021071 this is the previous one i went worked +BwjoCeUGfG8-00056-00021072-00021197 my way through +BwjoCeUGfG8-00057-00021198-00021327 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00058-00021328-00021439 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00059-00021440-00021839 i'll take that we'll move it up closer +BwjoCeUGfG8-00060-00021840-00022503 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00061-00022504-00022775 and this is the dilemma so we've got to +BwjoCeUGfG8-00062-00022776-00023022 make our way through this +BwjoCeUGfG8-00063-00023023-00023358 and it is a process +BwjoCeUGfG8-00064-00023359-00023471 so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00065-00023472-00023750 any time you can see where lava is up +BwjoCeUGfG8-00066-00023751-00023967 against another block +BwjoCeUGfG8-00067-00023968-00024214 you can fix it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00068-00024215-00024447 by doing that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00069-00024448-00024597 now it's gone +BwjoCeUGfG8-00070-00024598-00024830 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00071-00024831-00024983 that and that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00072-00024984-00025255 that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00073-00025256-00025519 you keep this process up you eventually +BwjoCeUGfG8-00074-00025520-00025999 start getting some of your glass back +BwjoCeUGfG8-00075-00026000-00026295 so let's see i want to go here and then +BwjoCeUGfG8-00076-00026295-00026607 i'm going to go there and there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00077-00026608-00026870 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00078-00026872-00027023 and you gotta back away so you don't get +BwjoCeUGfG8-00079-00027024-00027479 lava on you +BwjoCeUGfG8-00080-00027480-00027727 and it starts to get a little trickier +BwjoCeUGfG8-00081-00027727-00027879 but +BwjoCeUGfG8-00082-00027880-00028390 you've always got the bottom +BwjoCeUGfG8-00083-00028391-00029055 that makes sense +BwjoCeUGfG8-00084-00029056-00029187 so i come in +BwjoCeUGfG8-00085-00029188-00029302 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00086-00029304-00029767 there and blink it down i can remove +BwjoCeUGfG8-00087-00029768-00030199 this block in this block +BwjoCeUGfG8-00088-00030200-00030390 dig into the floor +BwjoCeUGfG8-00089-00030391-00030727 so i come in here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00090-00030727-00030939 and go there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00091-00030939-00031207 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00092-00031208-00031614 okay so now we've got a whole row +BwjoCeUGfG8-00093-00031616-00031943 of blocks there so now i can go in above +BwjoCeUGfG8-00094-00031944-00032307 that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00095-00032308-00032951 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00096-00032952-00033095 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00097-00033096-00033327 like i said if it's got a surface i can +BwjoCeUGfG8-00098-00033328-00033623 pin it up against +BwjoCeUGfG8-00099-00033624-00033807 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00100-00033808-00034471 sometimes i require retreat +BwjoCeUGfG8-00101-00034472-00034718 and i'm doing all of this without a lot +BwjoCeUGfG8-00102-00034719-00034961 without a water bucket +BwjoCeUGfG8-00103-00034962-00035351 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00104-00035352-00035639 so then we come up here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00105-00035640-00035823 let's see we've got +BwjoCeUGfG8-00106-00035824-00036535 this one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00107-00036536-00036751 and i think we ran out of +BwjoCeUGfG8-00108-00036752-00037292 blocks +BwjoCeUGfG8-00109-00037293-00038015 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00110-00038016-00038135 okay +BwjoCeUGfG8-00111-00038136-00038351 going to get some more glass blocks +BwjoCeUGfG8-00112-00038352-00038574 where are my glass blocks +BwjoCeUGfG8-00113-00038575-00038745 they're in here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00114-00038746-00039415 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00115-00039416-00039846 and we come back +BwjoCeUGfG8-00116-00039847-00040039 hard to see +BwjoCeUGfG8-00117-00040040-00041983 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00118-00041984-00042143 doing it in glass +BwjoCeUGfG8-00119-00042144-00042327 really helps +BwjoCeUGfG8-00120-00042328-00042462 because +BwjoCeUGfG8-00121-00042463-00042590 you can't +BwjoCeUGfG8-00122-00042591-00042807 class won't break this +BwjoCeUGfG8-00123-00042808-00043087 heavy block +BwjoCeUGfG8-00124-00043088-00043240 but +BwjoCeUGfG8-00125-00043241-00043455 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00126-00043456-00043743 that will +BwjoCeUGfG8-00127-00043744-00043855 so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00128-00043856-00044343 i can line these away +BwjoCeUGfG8-00129-00044344-00045518 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00130-00045519-00045702 again +BwjoCeUGfG8-00131-00045703-00045958 it's a matter of a process of +BwjoCeUGfG8-00132-00045959-00046423 elimination +BwjoCeUGfG8-00133-00046424-00046695 sometimes you get confused and have to +BwjoCeUGfG8-00134-00046696-00046883 get out of there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00135-00046884-00049086 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00136-00049087-00049624 and then i can take these blocks back +BwjoCeUGfG8-00137-00049625-00050255 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00138-00050256-00050446 come on +BwjoCeUGfG8-00139-00050447-00050558 i got it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00140-00050559-00051174 but i could on fire +BwjoCeUGfG8-00141-00051175-00051407 if i had a water bucket i could get put +BwjoCeUGfG8-00142-00051408-00051823 out faster +BwjoCeUGfG8-00143-00051824-00052063 instead i just wait +BwjoCeUGfG8-00144-00052064-00052302 so now +BwjoCeUGfG8-00145-00052303-00052503 let's see if we've got what we've got +BwjoCeUGfG8-00146-00052504-00052623 here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00147-00052624-00053359 this one is up against this wall +BwjoCeUGfG8-00148-00053360-00053552 almost got me +BwjoCeUGfG8-00149-00053553-00053887 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00150-00053888-00054063 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00151-00054064-00054542 this one is that wall and that wall +BwjoCeUGfG8-00152-00054544-00054991 and now i can remove this block back +BwjoCeUGfG8-00153-00054991-00055263 and then it's +BwjoCeUGfG8-00154-00055264-00055599 down here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00155-00055600-00055816 down here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00156-00055816-00056599 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00157-00056600-00056727 there we go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00158-00056728-00057071 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00159-00057072-00057342 it really is easiest to break the glass +BwjoCeUGfG8-00160-00057344-00057638 with the glass and that way you don't +BwjoCeUGfG8-00161-00057639-00057838 have an issue +BwjoCeUGfG8-00162-00057839-00058087 with timing +BwjoCeUGfG8-00163-00058088-00058823 if that makes any sense +BwjoCeUGfG8-00164-00058824-00059223 break that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00165-00059224-00059654 now that there's glass there i can go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00166-00059655-00059919 like this +BwjoCeUGfG8-00167-00059920-00060159 come on come on +BwjoCeUGfG8-00168-00060160-00060630 something didn't go right +BwjoCeUGfG8-00169-00060632-00061135 okay it's over that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00170-00061136-00061382 that doesn't have glass +BwjoCeUGfG8-00171-00061383-00061654 so let's try that again +BwjoCeUGfG8-00172-00061655-00061911 there we go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00173-00061912-00062119 i got this one which would make it go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00174-00062120-00062391 away +BwjoCeUGfG8-00175-00062391-00062526 and there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00176-00062527-00062847 and there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00177-00062848-00063094 and there and there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00178-00063095-00063375 and some of them you can't +BwjoCeUGfG8-00179-00063376-00063775 make go away because it hasn't happened +BwjoCeUGfG8-00180-00063776-00064047 yet +BwjoCeUGfG8-00181-00064048-00064191 you haven't +BwjoCeUGfG8-00182-00064191-00064415 locked it off so that it can not go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00183-00064416-00065230 anywhere +BwjoCeUGfG8-00184-00065232-00067247 so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00185-00067248-00068279 it is a process +BwjoCeUGfG8-00186-00068280-00068503 so you got all those +BwjoCeUGfG8-00187-00068504-00068679 then i can go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00188-00068680-00068863 and go in +BwjoCeUGfG8-00189-00068864-00069038 come on +BwjoCeUGfG8-00190-00069039-00069273 didn't want to work +BwjoCeUGfG8-00191-00069274-00069535 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00192-00069536-00069791 take that one out +BwjoCeUGfG8-00193-00069792-00070190 i can take that one out +BwjoCeUGfG8-00194-00070191-00070431 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00195-00070432-00070699 let's see i can +BwjoCeUGfG8-00196-00070700-00070967 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00197-00070968-00071294 go in further on the ground +BwjoCeUGfG8-00198-00071295-00071399 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00199-00071400-00071694 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00200-00071695-00071799 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00201-00071800-00072503 there and there and there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00202-00072504-00072719 there and there there and there and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00203-00072720-00072894 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00204-00072895-00073182 sometimes i don't get it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00205-00073183-00073391 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00206-00073392-00074479 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00207-00074480-00074696 it's gonna get a little trickier +BwjoCeUGfG8-00208-00074697-00075631 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00209-00075632-00075903 there we go +BwjoCeUGfG8-00210-00075904-00076159 got that one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00211-00076160-00076447 got that one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00212-00076448-00076743 and we just keep this process up and it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00213-00076744-00077082 is a process of elimination +BwjoCeUGfG8-00214-00077083-00077238 until +BwjoCeUGfG8-00215-00077239-00077519 i have run out of glass or until i've +BwjoCeUGfG8-00216-00077520-00077865 run out of lava +BwjoCeUGfG8-00217-00077866-00078006 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00218-00078007-00078111 but it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00219-00078112-00078399 sometimes is difficult to get ooh look +BwjoCeUGfG8-00220-00078400-00078703 diamonds +BwjoCeUGfG8-00221-00078704-00079247 i want the diamonds +BwjoCeUGfG8-00222-00079248-00079494 that works +BwjoCeUGfG8-00223-00079495-00079823 where did it go oh i got it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00224-00079824-00080038 i don't want that i used the wrong +BwjoCeUGfG8-00225-00080039-00080211 pickaxe +BwjoCeUGfG8-00226-00080212-00080494 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00227-00080495-00080767 i want to use this one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00228-00080768-00081350 one diamond +BwjoCeUGfG8-00229-00081351-00081550 so let's +BwjoCeUGfG8-00230-00081551-00081689 where did i lose my +BwjoCeUGfG8-00231-00081690-00081879 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00232-00081880-00082103 put the diamond up here +BwjoCeUGfG8-00233-00082104-00082415 let's go back in and get this glass +BwjoCeUGfG8-00234-00082416-00082559 there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00235-00082560-00082879 now i can +BwjoCeUGfG8-00236-00082880-00083206 use fortune pick and get my diamonds +BwjoCeUGfG8-00237-00083207-00083559 it was again one diamond +BwjoCeUGfG8-00238-00083560-00083735 not very +BwjoCeUGfG8-00239-00083736-00083894 good +BwjoCeUGfG8-00240-00083895-00084382 but there's more +BwjoCeUGfG8-00241-00084383-00084759 and we'll +BwjoCeUGfG8-00242-00084760-00084939 and then we'll get this one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00243-00084940-00085247 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00244-00085248-00085391 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00245-00085392-00085647 one diamond each it's got +BwjoCeUGfG8-00246-00085648-00085943 fortune 3 and yet +BwjoCeUGfG8-00247-00085944-00086075 it's not helping +BwjoCeUGfG8-00248-00086076-00086903 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00249-00086904-00087517 so we'll just keep clearing this out +BwjoCeUGfG8-00250-00087518-00088307 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00251-00088308-00088799 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00252-00088800-00089103 and like so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00253-00089104-00089535 then like so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00254-00089536-00090015 it's harder to get the ones up top +BwjoCeUGfG8-00255-00090016-00090231 because if there's just lava behind it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00256-00090232-00090487 you can't place a block +BwjoCeUGfG8-00257-00090488-00090823 it has to be +BwjoCeUGfG8-00258-00090824-00091262 on a solid block +BwjoCeUGfG8-00259-00091263-00091503 it can be another class block but it has +BwjoCeUGfG8-00260-00091504-00091799 to be a solid block +BwjoCeUGfG8-00261-00091800-00092059 so i've +BwjoCeUGfG8-00262-00092060-00092255 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00263-00092256-00092503 working on that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00264-00092504-00092671 let's see +BwjoCeUGfG8-00265-00092672-00092982 so that glass block is there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00266-00092983-00093500 so we can do this +BwjoCeUGfG8-00267-00093501-00093831 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00268-00093832-00094199 not what i had in mind +BwjoCeUGfG8-00269-00094200-00094343 there there +BwjoCeUGfG8-00270-00094344-00094911 yeah +BwjoCeUGfG8-00271-00094912-00095018 take this one out +BwjoCeUGfG8-00272-00095019-00095206 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00273-00095207-00095462 take this one out +BwjoCeUGfG8-00274-00095463-00095806 close that +BwjoCeUGfG8-00275-00095807-00096133 lava's getting me +BwjoCeUGfG8-00276-00096134-00096455 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00277-00096456-00096567 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00278-00096568-00096799 i'm going to finish this process up you +BwjoCeUGfG8-00279-00096800-00096943 don't want to watch the rest of this but +BwjoCeUGfG8-00280-00096944-00097167 i'm going to switch this up +BwjoCeUGfG8-00281-00097168-00097438 and i'll be back +BwjoCeUGfG8-00282-00097439-00097815 afterwards +BwjoCeUGfG8-00283-00097816-00098511 and i am back i got through the lava +BwjoCeUGfG8-00284-00098512-00098679 let me get pick up +BwjoCeUGfG8-00285-00098680-00098879 this +BwjoCeUGfG8-00286-00098880-00098974 so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00287-00098975-00099159 the lava is there people can see it it +BwjoCeUGfG8-00288-00099160-00099406 provides light +BwjoCeUGfG8-00289-00099407-00099750 get up to here and lo and behold i found +BwjoCeUGfG8-00290-00099751-00100015 diamonds +BwjoCeUGfG8-00291-00100016-00100626 so let's see this is the this is the one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00292-00100627-00101094 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00293-00101095-00101359 yeah +BwjoCeUGfG8-00294-00101360-00101479 another one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00295-00101480-00101823 and another one +BwjoCeUGfG8-00296-00101824-00101935 and +BwjoCeUGfG8-00297-00101936-00102303 that brings us up to 25. +BwjoCeUGfG8-00298-00102304-00102535 i only had three before +BwjoCeUGfG8-00299-00102536-00102663 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00300-00102664-00103052 so not bad +BwjoCeUGfG8-00301-00103053-00103454 [Music] +BwjoCeUGfG8-00302-00103455-00104494 what on earth i can't see +BwjoCeUGfG8-00303-00104495-00104758 now somewhere in this version +BwjoCeUGfG8-00304-00104759-00104966 i'm going to hit +BwjoCeUGfG8-00305-00104967-00105151 the deep dark +BwjoCeUGfG8-00306-00105152-00105463 i'm on the lowest part of the world +BwjoCeUGfG8-00307-00105464-00105727 i'm just trying to get to a place where +BwjoCeUGfG8-00308-00105728-00105919 the deep dark exists +BwjoCeUGfG8-00309-00105920-00106175 and the map wasn't previously created in +BwjoCeUGfG8-00310-00106176-00106519 an under an older version +BwjoCeUGfG8-00311-00106520-00107031 so the search goes on +BwjoCeUGfG8-00312-00107032-00107302 and we're out of time so +BwjoCeUGfG8-00313-00107303-00107447 thank you for watching +BwjoCeUGfG8-00314-00107448-00107743 and goodbye +BwjoCeUGfG8-00315-00107744-00108134 if you made it this far please put sheep +BwjoCeUGfG8-00316-00108135-00108288 in your comments +BwjoCeUGfG8-00317-00108289-00109136 [Music] +BwNLFNBbT1c-00000-00000037-00000526 [Applause] +BwNLFNBbT1c-00001-00000527-00000719 thank you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00002-00000720-00001007 greetings Mortals +BwNLFNBbT1c-00003-00001008-00001270 um my name is Ryan and I'm a hacker I'm +BwNLFNBbT1c-00004-00001271-00001582 also a transgender undergarian who's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00005-00001583-00001810 been doing a bit of gender affirming +BwNLFNBbT1c-00006-00001811-00002152 biohacking with supervision by licensed +BwNLFNBbT1c-00007-00002153-00002417 medical professionals +BwNLFNBbT1c-00008-00002418-00002591 um if you didn't see the schedule +BwNLFNBbT1c-00009-00002592-00002897 there's a Content warning on this talk +BwNLFNBbT1c-00010-00002898-00003058 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00011-00003059-00003335 do what you want with this information +BwNLFNBbT1c-00012-00003336-00003515 I'm going to be talking about genitals +BwNLFNBbT1c-00013-00003515-00003683 I'm going to be using words like gender +BwNLFNBbT1c-00014-00003684-00003947 [__] without further warning the pic +BwNLFNBbT1c-00015-00003947-00004127 there I haven't I have some pictures to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00016-00004128-00004372 share at the end of non-standard genital +BwNLFNBbT1c-00017-00004373-00004619 configurations there will be warnings +BwNLFNBbT1c-00018-00004620-00004901 again before that so nobody should be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00019-00004902-00005111 surprised +BwNLFNBbT1c-00020-00005112-00005201 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00021-00005202-00005447 all right let's get started +BwNLFNBbT1c-00022-00005448-00005656 uh first off why are there so many +BwNLFNBbT1c-00023-00005657-00005825 queers these days +BwNLFNBbT1c-00024-00005826-00005981 um well this is kind of what happens +BwNLFNBbT1c-00025-00005982-00006472 when they stop hiding because Society is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00026-00006473-00006863 moving from coercive suppression to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00027-00006864-00007109 acceptance +BwNLFNBbT1c-00028-00007109-00007169 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00029-00007170-00007414 and let's talk about gender a little bit +BwNLFNBbT1c-00030-00007415-00007619 rather than trying to describe gender +BwNLFNBbT1c-00031-00007620-00007751 which +BwNLFNBbT1c-00032-00007752-00008039 just is a mess let's let's think about +BwNLFNBbT1c-00033-00008040-00008260 how to represent it in a computer +BwNLFNBbT1c-00034-00008261-00008645 um naively binary +BwNLFNBbT1c-00035-00008646-00008885 that's wrong +BwNLFNBbT1c-00036-00008886-00009091 um what about enum +BwNLFNBbT1c-00037-00009092-00009395 this is this is a little better but we +BwNLFNBbT1c-00038-00009396-00009623 we can get some Nuance in here uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00039-00009624-00009959 floating Point continuous scale male on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00040-00009960-00010174 one side female on the other +BwNLFNBbT1c-00041-00010175-00010433 uh some stuff in the middle that's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00042-00010434-00010624 getting there but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00043-00010625-00010678 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00044-00010679-00010919 this is even better we have a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00045-00010920-00011177 two-dimensional plane here maleness on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00046-00011178-00011453 one access femaleness on the other this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00047-00011454-00011651 captures complexities like agender +BwNLFNBbT1c-00048-00011652-00011999 people who feel very little of either +BwNLFNBbT1c-00049-00012000-00012473 gender or androgyns who feel significant +BwNLFNBbT1c-00050-00012474-00012659 amounts of both and pretty much +BwNLFNBbT1c-00051-00012660-00012922 everything in between +BwNLFNBbT1c-00052-00012923-00013229 um this is just a [__] post +BwNLFNBbT1c-00053-00013230-00013307 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00054-00013308-00013553 this this is also a [__] post but it's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00055-00013554-00013757 actually really good +BwNLFNBbT1c-00056-00013758-00014147 um a Loosely bimodal Point cloud in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00057-00014147-00014386 n-dimensional space +BwNLFNBbT1c-00058-00014387-00014603 that that's that's great +BwNLFNBbT1c-00059-00014604-00014716 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00060-00014718-00014938 some quick notes here +BwNLFNBbT1c-00061-00014940-00015041 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00062-00015041-00015238 this is a sensitive subject for a lot of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00063-00015240-00015341 people +BwNLFNBbT1c-00064-00015341-00015616 um myself personally I was never male +BwNLFNBbT1c-00065-00015618-00015983 I pretended to be male for a while +BwNLFNBbT1c-00066-00015984-00016229 very badly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00067-00016230-00016288 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00068-00016290-00016469 I also want to note that people who say +BwNLFNBbT1c-00069-00016470-00016733 there are only two Sexes vastly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00070-00016734-00016930 underestimate the complexity of human +BwNLFNBbT1c-00071-00016931-00017183 biology and the prevalence of intersex +BwNLFNBbT1c-00072-00017184-00017458 conditions this is a two-page spread +BwNLFNBbT1c-00073-00017459-00017797 from Scientific American in 2017 +BwNLFNBbT1c-00074-00017798-00018203 which really barely touches the surface +BwNLFNBbT1c-00075-00018204-00018497 about how messy biological sex is in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00076-00018498-00018625 humans +BwNLFNBbT1c-00077-00018626-00018875 obviously you can't read this because +BwNLFNBbT1c-00078-00018876-00019264 that is a [__] ton of information +BwNLFNBbT1c-00079-00019265-00019594 um so gender dysphoria is what it's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00080-00019595-00019925 typically called when a person's mental +BwNLFNBbT1c-00081-00019926-00020171 conception of their gender does not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00082-00020172-00020393 match their body +BwNLFNBbT1c-00083-00020394-00020549 um for those who are not aware The +BwNLFNBbT1c-00084-00020550-00020800 Matrix aside from being an obscure film +BwNLFNBbT1c-00085-00020801-00021119 released in 1999 is an allegory that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00086-00021120-00021358 being transgender this is not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00087-00021359-00021664 speculation uh it was made by two trans +BwNLFNBbT1c-00088-00021665-00021935 women the wachowskis who were at the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00089-00021936-00022247 time deeply closeted but they've both +BwNLFNBbT1c-00090-00022248-00022558 since come out and confirmed that their +BwNLFNBbT1c-00091-00022559-00022843 experiences as closeted trans women +BwNLFNBbT1c-00092-00022844-00023171 were significant to the development of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00093-00023172-00023357 this film +BwNLFNBbT1c-00094-00023358-00023669 um this particular line is about gender +BwNLFNBbT1c-00095-00023670-00023789 dysphoria +BwNLFNBbT1c-00096-00023790-00023957 I do want to note that not all +BwNLFNBbT1c-00097-00023958-00024178 transgender people experience dysphoria +BwNLFNBbT1c-00098-00024179-00024508 but um if you've never felt it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00099-00024509-00024730 this is spot on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00100-00024731-00025055 uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00101-00025056-00025342 okay so what do we do about dysphoria +BwNLFNBbT1c-00102-00025343-00025444 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00103-00025445-00025733 that bit about driving you mad +BwNLFNBbT1c-00104-00025733-00026170 actually not far off the mark +BwNLFNBbT1c-00105-00026172-00026249 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00106-00026250-00026627 it's far far easier to address dysphoria +BwNLFNBbT1c-00107-00026627-00026890 physically and socially rather than +BwNLFNBbT1c-00108-00026891-00027181 trying to alter one's mind +BwNLFNBbT1c-00109-00027182-00027479 it's usually referred to as conversion +BwNLFNBbT1c-00110-00027480-00027899 therapy when you try to like +BwNLFNBbT1c-00111-00027900-00028199 talk the trans out of someone and it's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00112-00028200-00028505 torture +BwNLFNBbT1c-00113-00028506-00028805 and that's why there's a lot of attempts +BwNLFNBbT1c-00114-00028806-00029095 to completely ban it in a lot of places +BwNLFNBbT1c-00115-00029095-00029351 for many people transition starts +BwNLFNBbT1c-00116-00029352-00029479 socially +BwNLFNBbT1c-00117-00029480-00029795 I a few years ago received some amazing +BwNLFNBbT1c-00118-00029795-00030046 advice about this which was that you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00119-00030047-00030208 don't need to decide +BwNLFNBbT1c-00120-00030210-00030383 what you're going to do all at once you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00121-00030383-00030607 can just try things see how they feel +BwNLFNBbT1c-00122-00030608-00030940 experiment find some joy for yourself +BwNLFNBbT1c-00123-00030941-00031181 I also want to say if you have trans +BwNLFNBbT1c-00124-00031182-00031396 people in your life please support them +BwNLFNBbT1c-00125-00031397-00031877 even the ones who are not out yet +BwNLFNBbT1c-00126-00031877-00032081 um more Matrix +BwNLFNBbT1c-00127-00032082-00032387 stuff that is extremely applicable to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00128-00032388-00032573 gender +BwNLFNBbT1c-00129-00032574-00032662 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00130-00032663-00032957 in terms of social transition this is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00131-00032958-00033083 all +BwNLFNBbT1c-00132-00033084-00033305 social convention +BwNLFNBbT1c-00133-00033306-00033652 that exists from society and most of it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00134-00033653-00033965 has changed over time high heels were +BwNLFNBbT1c-00135-00033966-00034331 originally for men wigs makeup used to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00136-00034332-00034709 be really common for men even the most +BwNLFNBbT1c-00137-00034710-00034883 gendered thing that most people can +BwNLFNBbT1c-00138-00034884-00035074 think of these days the pink and blue +BwNLFNBbT1c-00139-00035075-00035189 motif +BwNLFNBbT1c-00140-00035190-00035567 uh has actually swapped over time +BwNLFNBbT1c-00141-00035568-00035801 uh so for the meat of the talk +BwNLFNBbT1c-00142-00035802-00036149 I'm going to go into medical transition +BwNLFNBbT1c-00143-00036150-00036521 um that generally starts with hormone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00144-00036522-00036796 replacement therapy HRT +BwNLFNBbT1c-00145-00036797-00036905 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00146-00036906-00037187 one of the components of HRT can be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00147-00037188-00037409 reducing the level of testosterone in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00148-00037410-00037740 one's body which has quite a few effects +BwNLFNBbT1c-00149-00037741-00038057 what's really interesting is how +BwNLFNBbT1c-00150-00038058-00038429 feminizing this alone can be there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00151-00038430-00038627 actually an intersex condition called +BwNLFNBbT1c-00152-00038628-00039124 total Androgen insensitivity where a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00153-00039125-00039305 person is born +BwNLFNBbT1c-00154-00039306-00039583 with X Y chromosomes +BwNLFNBbT1c-00155-00039584-00039911 but their body simply doesn't respond to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00156-00039912-00040252 testosterone and these people +BwNLFNBbT1c-00157-00040253-00040373 will +BwNLFNBbT1c-00158-00040374-00040624 look female at Birth grow up looking +BwNLFNBbT1c-00159-00040625-00040823 female develop +BwNLFNBbT1c-00160-00040824-00041159 in puberty as females +BwNLFNBbT1c-00161-00041160-00041267 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00162-00041268-00041561 and they usually only find out when they +BwNLFNBbT1c-00163-00041562-00041795 turn out to be sterile +BwNLFNBbT1c-00164-00041796-00041855 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00165-00041856-00042155 so if you suppress testosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00166-00042156-00042437 even even as an adult there's a lot of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00167-00042438-00042640 feminization that happens one of the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00168-00042641-00042965 more interesting things is changes to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00169-00042966-00043259 emotional states this this Stacks with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00170-00043260-00043421 increased estradiol +BwNLFNBbT1c-00171-00043422-00043493 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00172-00043494-00043661 I'm basically like turning up the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00173-00043662-00043889 saturation +BwNLFNBbT1c-00174-00043890-00044218 um otherwise a lot of this is what you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00175-00044219-00044440 would expect +BwNLFNBbT1c-00176-00044441-00044795 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00177-00044796-00044933 okay +BwNLFNBbT1c-00178-00044934-00045229 another thing that's common is adding +BwNLFNBbT1c-00179-00045230-00045485 external estradiol +BwNLFNBbT1c-00180-00045486-00045737 um the big thing that this does is cause +BwNLFNBbT1c-00181-00045738-00046133 breast growth it also changes facial +BwNLFNBbT1c-00182-00046134-00046558 shape a bit redistributes body fats +BwNLFNBbT1c-00183-00046559-00046895 uh changes sexual response +BwNLFNBbT1c-00184-00046896-00047218 um even more emotional changes one of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00185-00047219-00047380 the more some of the more fascinating +BwNLFNBbT1c-00186-00047381-00047639 ones are that like the pelvic tilts can +BwNLFNBbT1c-00187-00047640-00047933 change which makes uh makes the body a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00188-00047934-00048377 bit more curvy and uh can reduce height +BwNLFNBbT1c-00189-00048378-00048587 by one to three inches +BwNLFNBbT1c-00190-00048588-00048827 um I've also heard of people +BwNLFNBbT1c-00191-00048828-00049174 losing a shoe size or two +BwNLFNBbT1c-00192-00049175-00049240 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00193-00049241-00049433 and then there are also changes to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00194-00049434-00049751 genitals sensitivity increases odor +BwNLFNBbT1c-00195-00049752-00049985 changes to be more feminine the skin +BwNLFNBbT1c-00196-00049986-00050374 becomes more moist thinner and fragile +BwNLFNBbT1c-00197-00050375-00050596 um all of these by the way the lists are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00198-00050597-00050855 not exhaustive there's really not been +BwNLFNBbT1c-00199-00050856-00050965 enough +BwNLFNBbT1c-00200-00050966-00051287 Research into fully enumerating the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00201-00051288-00051635 effects progesterone is is interesting +BwNLFNBbT1c-00202-00051636-00051820 because +BwNLFNBbT1c-00203-00051821-00052069 there is a lot of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00204-00052070-00052385 anecdotal data from trans feminine +BwNLFNBbT1c-00205-00052386-00052565 people stating that it does help with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00206-00052566-00052721 breast development +BwNLFNBbT1c-00207-00052722-00052919 and then there's some clinical studies +BwNLFNBbT1c-00208-00052920-00053261 that say it does not which makes a lot +BwNLFNBbT1c-00209-00053262-00053561 of doctors reluctant to provide it to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00210-00053562-00053932 patients +BwNLFNBbT1c-00211-00053933-00053994 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00212-00053995-00054335 I would trust the anecdotal data far +BwNLFNBbT1c-00213-00054336-00054509 more here +BwNLFNBbT1c-00214-00054510-00054592 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00215-00054594-00054766 anyway +BwNLFNBbT1c-00216-00054767-00054916 oops +BwNLFNBbT1c-00217-00054917-00055037 what happens when we increase +BwNLFNBbT1c-00218-00055038-00055187 testosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00219-00055188-00055426 again this is things that you would +BwNLFNBbT1c-00220-00055427-00055607 expect +BwNLFNBbT1c-00221-00055608-00056075 um typical masculine puberty effects +BwNLFNBbT1c-00222-00056076-00056363 um even in an adult you will get changes +BwNLFNBbT1c-00223-00056364-00056638 in body structure fat distribution the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00224-00056639-00056915 bone structure is of course mostly fixed +BwNLFNBbT1c-00225-00056916-00057066 but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00226-00057067-00057444 redistribution of fat does quite a lot +BwNLFNBbT1c-00227-00057445-00057844 the other interesting things are if +BwNLFNBbT1c-00228-00057845-00058007 someone has a clitoris that will grow +BwNLFNBbT1c-00229-00058008-00058126 bigger +BwNLFNBbT1c-00230-00058127-00058192 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00231-00058194-00058561 sometimes quite significantly and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00232-00058562-00058949 vaginal Canal will generally experience +BwNLFNBbT1c-00233-00058950-00059194 some degree of atrophy though that's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00234-00059195-00059392 highly variable how much +BwNLFNBbT1c-00235-00059394-00059657 anyway so if you don't like these +BwNLFNBbT1c-00236-00059658-00059794 packages +BwNLFNBbT1c-00237-00059795-00060035 and you want a pony +BwNLFNBbT1c-00238-00060036-00060166 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00239-00060167-00060394 well you might actually be able to have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00240-00060395-00060521 that Pony +BwNLFNBbT1c-00241-00060522-00060641 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00242-00060641-00060929 as I mentioned earlier research on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00243-00060929-00061126 transgender hormone replacement therapy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00244-00061127-00061361 is rather lacking +BwNLFNBbT1c-00245-00061362-00061559 um something I found recently that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00246-00061560-00061763 really +BwNLFNBbT1c-00247-00061764-00062032 made that sink in for me was this paper +BwNLFNBbT1c-00248-00062033-00062225 discussing differences in breast +BwNLFNBbT1c-00249-00062226-00062657 development from uh CIS and trans people +BwNLFNBbT1c-00250-00062658-00063119 it was published in 1999 or sorry 2019 I +BwNLFNBbT1c-00251-00063120-00063437 am thinking of the Matrix still +BwNLFNBbT1c-00252-00063438-00063791 um anyway so it was talking about how in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00253-00063791-00063971 CIS people breast development usually +BwNLFNBbT1c-00254-00063972-00064300 takes four to five years uh and it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00255-00064301-00064523 pointed out that as of the date of this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00256-00064524-00064613 paper +BwNLFNBbT1c-00257-00064614-00064829 there haven't been there hadn't been any +BwNLFNBbT1c-00258-00064829-00065123 studies following trans patients for +BwNLFNBbT1c-00259-00065124-00065399 four to five years it's it all stops +BwNLFNBbT1c-00260-00065400-00065543 after about three +BwNLFNBbT1c-00261-00065544-00065813 so they don't know the full potential +BwNLFNBbT1c-00262-00065814-00066173 for breast growth in transgender women +BwNLFNBbT1c-00263-00066174-00066443 what +BwNLFNBbT1c-00264-00066444-00066611 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00265-00066612-00066850 and then and then uh for non-binary +BwNLFNBbT1c-00266-00066851-00067093 people uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00267-00067094-00067481 this this uh this image is from a paper +BwNLFNBbT1c-00268-00067482-00067823 that was put out in 2020 +BwNLFNBbT1c-00269-00067824-00068099 um most of the stuff in here is actually +BwNLFNBbT1c-00270-00068100-00068321 just theoretical probably hasn't been +BwNLFNBbT1c-00271-00068322-00068603 tried on any actual patients +BwNLFNBbT1c-00272-00068604-00068669 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00273-00068670-00069049 but it's a nice overview of uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00274-00069050-00069347 theoretically what can be done for +BwNLFNBbT1c-00275-00069348-00069587 non-binary patients who want to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00276-00069588-00069850 transition and and even since then even +BwNLFNBbT1c-00277-00069851-00070276 since then this there's not a whole lot +BwNLFNBbT1c-00278-00070277-00070367 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00279-00070368-00070613 anyway so +BwNLFNBbT1c-00280-00070614-00070847 you want a pony +BwNLFNBbT1c-00281-00070848-00071159 um or you know addition substitutions if +BwNLFNBbT1c-00282-00071160-00071326 we're going with the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00283-00071327-00071555 restaurant analogy there's a couple +BwNLFNBbT1c-00284-00071556-00071849 strategies for Selective HRT effects +BwNLFNBbT1c-00285-00071850-00072263 there's blockers which includes uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00286-00072264-00072659 receptor and antagonists which can be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00287-00072660-00072821 selective or not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00288-00072822-00073181 there's Inhibitors that produce prevent +BwNLFNBbT1c-00289-00073182-00073409 production of certain enzymes or +BwNLFNBbT1c-00290-00073410-00073561 hormones +BwNLFNBbT1c-00291-00073562-00073817 there's targeted topical application +BwNLFNBbT1c-00292-00073818-00074015 which is another one that a lot of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00293-00074016-00074176 medical professionals will say doesn't +BwNLFNBbT1c-00294-00074177-00074473 work but anecdotally works great +BwNLFNBbT1c-00295-00074474-00074855 there's mitigations and there's surgery +BwNLFNBbT1c-00296-00074856-00074969 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00297-00074970-00075113 common one +BwNLFNBbT1c-00298-00075114-00075473 is opting out of balding and or the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00299-00075474-00075700 increases in facial hair and body hair +BwNLFNBbT1c-00300-00075701-00075979 caused by testosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00301-00075980-00076385 the usual strategy for this is to take +BwNLFNBbT1c-00302-00076386-00076637 something called a 5-alpha reductus +BwNLFNBbT1c-00303-00076638-00076776 inhibitor +BwNLFNBbT1c-00304-00076777-00077171 what this does is prevent the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00305-00077172-00077519 metabolization of testosterone into a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00306-00077520-00077791 stronger Androgen called +BwNLFNBbT1c-00307-00077792-00077950 dihydrotestosterone which is what's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00308-00077951-00078221 responsible for a lot of facial and body +BwNLFNBbT1c-00309-00078222-00078671 hair growth and especially hair loss +BwNLFNBbT1c-00310-00078672-00078875 um there's a couple of these the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00311-00078876-00079012 commercial name for the most common one +BwNLFNBbT1c-00312-00079013-00079588 is Propecia also known as finasteride +BwNLFNBbT1c-00313-00079589-00079894 most of these kinds of drugs do have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00314-00079895-00080225 some level of collateral effects there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00315-00080226-00080476 some neurotransmitters that use five +BwNLFNBbT1c-00316-00080477-00080753 Alpha reductase +BwNLFNBbT1c-00317-00080754-00081100 um to be metabolized and there are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00318-00081101-00081359 potential problems with that but the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00319-00081360-00081653 clinical studies all say that it's fine +BwNLFNBbT1c-00320-00081654-00081935 in the vast majority of cases +BwNLFNBbT1c-00321-00081936-00082000 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00322-00082001-00082181 the other thing you can do is take an +BwNLFNBbT1c-00323-00082182-00082349 androgen that doesn't +BwNLFNBbT1c-00324-00082350-00082679 metabolize into dihydrotestosterone uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00325-00082680-00082950 there is one called nandralone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00326-00082951-00083350 which is mostly used illegally by +BwNLFNBbT1c-00327-00083351-00083776 bodybuilders but um is suggested in the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00328-00083777-00083981 study I took that previous graphic from +BwNLFNBbT1c-00329-00083982-00084317 as an option for non-binary patients +BwNLFNBbT1c-00330-00084318-00084544 um so it's it's structurally almost +BwNLFNBbT1c-00331-00084545-00084853 identical to testosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00332-00084854-00085138 basically acts on all of the receptors +BwNLFNBbT1c-00333-00085139-00085361 in the body the same way the only real +BwNLFNBbT1c-00334-00085362-00085643 difference is that when it meets up with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00335-00085644-00086021 five Alpha reductase it turns into an +BwNLFNBbT1c-00336-00086022-00086231 inert compound that's just +BwNLFNBbT1c-00337-00086232-00086471 excreted out of the body +BwNLFNBbT1c-00338-00086472-00086603 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00339-00086604-00086981 other things if you want to have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00340-00086982-00087203 physical effects from having or if you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00341-00087204-00087419 want to have only Mental effects from +BwNLFNBbT1c-00342-00087420-00087659 having testosterone in your body you can +BwNLFNBbT1c-00343-00087660-00087862 take an anti-androgen which does not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00344-00087863-00088109 cross the blood-brain barrier +BwNLFNBbT1c-00345-00088110-00088565 um this is experimental and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00346-00088566-00088762 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00347-00088763-00089062 if you want to do experimental things I +BwNLFNBbT1c-00348-00089063-00089303 recommend getting a doctor to supervise +BwNLFNBbT1c-00349-00089304-00089562 it but theoretically that should work +BwNLFNBbT1c-00350-00089563-00089855 another another big thing that people +BwNLFNBbT1c-00351-00089856-00090311 want to opt out of is penile atrophy and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00352-00090312-00090556 or decreased erectile function when +BwNLFNBbT1c-00353-00090557-00090756 suppressing testosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00354-00090757-00091217 for some reason there's an anti-androgen +BwNLFNBbT1c-00355-00091218-00091367 and I'm not even going to try to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00356-00091368-00091612 pronounce the name of it that block that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00357-00091613-00091817 blocks the effect of testosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00358-00091818-00092099 without preventing its production in the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00359-00092100-00092188 body +BwNLFNBbT1c-00360-00092189-00092350 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00361-00092351-00092609 I cannot understand why this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00362-00092610-00092843 works but it does +BwNLFNBbT1c-00363-00092844-00093076 um and then the typical erectile +BwNLFNBbT1c-00364-00093077-00093425 dysfunction drugs for CIS men +BwNLFNBbT1c-00365-00093426-00093587 um actually work just fine in trans +BwNLFNBbT1c-00366-00093588-00093976 patients that's Cialis Viagra and the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00367-00093977-00094294 generic versions thereof Cialis is kind +BwNLFNBbT1c-00368-00094295-00094426 of interesting because there's a once +BwNLFNBbT1c-00369-00094427-00094681 daily dosage that can be taken +BwNLFNBbT1c-00370-00094682-00095003 there's also the option of topical +BwNLFNBbT1c-00371-00095004-00095249 application of testosterone directly to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00372-00095250-00095459 the genitals +BwNLFNBbT1c-00373-00095460-00095556 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00374-00095557-00095962 and if you just want to prevent atrophy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00375-00095963-00096365 um Regular use of a vacuum pump will +BwNLFNBbT1c-00376-00096366-00096526 do that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00377-00096527-00096623 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00378-00096624-00096935 another thing that people commonly wants +BwNLFNBbT1c-00379-00096936-00097217 is to opt out of breast growth from +BwNLFNBbT1c-00380-00097218-00097417 estradiol +BwNLFNBbT1c-00381-00097418-00097787 the surgical tissue removal is super +BwNLFNBbT1c-00382-00097788-00097991 reliable but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00383-00097992-00098165 um you have to have enough of it to +BwNLFNBbT1c-00384-00098166-00098381 remove which usually means that you're +BwNLFNBbT1c-00385-00098382-00098549 going to have to accept some initial +BwNLFNBbT1c-00386-00098550-00098765 growth before getting it surgically +BwNLFNBbT1c-00387-00098766-00099035 taken out but once the tissue is gone it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00388-00099036-00099287 won't regrow the other option is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00389-00099288-00099605 selective estrogen receptor modulators +BwNLFNBbT1c-00390-00099606-00099935 um these drugs are mostly all developed +BwNLFNBbT1c-00391-00099936-00100282 for treatment of breast cancer +BwNLFNBbT1c-00392-00100283-00100385 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00393-00100386-00100637 a lot of them have fairly unpleasant +BwNLFNBbT1c-00394-00100638-00100979 side effects to varying degrees I mean +BwNLFNBbT1c-00395-00100980-00101176 but with as with all drug side effects +BwNLFNBbT1c-00396-00101177-00101512 your mileage may vary +BwNLFNBbT1c-00397-00101513-00101861 um but these are known to work +BwNLFNBbT1c-00398-00101862-00102017 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00399-00102018-00102244 so this first one here I found on a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00400-00102245-00102510 website called mad gender science +BwNLFNBbT1c-00401-00102511-00102910 and yeah so +BwNLFNBbT1c-00402-00102911-00103182 um the idea is to get feminization +BwNLFNBbT1c-00403-00103183-00103427 [Music] +BwNLFNBbT1c-00404-00103428-00103636 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00405-00103638-00103828 and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00406-00103829-00104453 Mental effects of increased estrogen +BwNLFNBbT1c-00407-00104454-00104893 reliably this is a testosterone blocker +BwNLFNBbT1c-00408-00104894-00105233 instead of actually taking estrogen the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00409-00105233-00105454 recommendation here was to take one of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00410-00105455-00105665 those serms that I mentioned in the last +BwNLFNBbT1c-00411-00105666-00106019 slide and then another drug to block the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00412-00106020-00106186 body's natural metabolization of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00413-00106188-00106510 testosterone into estrogen this this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00414-00106511-00106816 last bit the body naturally +BwNLFNBbT1c-00415-00106817-00107152 processing testosterone into estrogen is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00416-00107153-00107693 why some bodybuilders have breast growth +BwNLFNBbT1c-00417-00107694-00107963 um anyway vaginal atrophy that one's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00418-00107964-00108149 pretty easy to solve +BwNLFNBbT1c-00419-00108150-00108334 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00420-00108335-00108797 application of a topical estrogen to the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00421-00108798-00109231 vaginal Canal will fix that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00422-00109232-00109510 selectively opting into clitoral growth +BwNLFNBbT1c-00423-00109511-00109852 is a thing that there are some +BwNLFNBbT1c-00424-00109853-00110104 some communities that just they're doing +BwNLFNBbT1c-00425-00110105-00110249 that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00426-00110250-00110495 um there's there's some communities on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00427-00110496-00110723 Reddit for this they're very much not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00428-00110724-00110939 safe for work but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00429-00110940-00111160 um this is a pretty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00430-00111161-00111551 well tested thing uh it's topical +BwNLFNBbT1c-00431-00111552-00111802 application of either testosterone or +BwNLFNBbT1c-00432-00111803-00112013 dihydrotestosterone +BwNLFNBbT1c-00433-00112014-00112199 um usually the former because the ladder +BwNLFNBbT1c-00434-00112200-00112408 is really hard to get a hold of and then +BwNLFNBbT1c-00435-00112409-00112660 regular vacuum pump use +BwNLFNBbT1c-00436-00112661-00112889 um selectively getting muscle growth +BwNLFNBbT1c-00437-00112890-00113189 well that's just bodybuilding so there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00438-00113190-00113316 a bunch of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00439-00113317-00113651 non-veralizing steroid regimens that are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00440-00113652-00113908 designed for CIS women which work fine +BwNLFNBbT1c-00441-00113909-00114125 for this there's also a class of drugs +BwNLFNBbT1c-00442-00114126-00114371 called oh I [__] up this slide +BwNLFNBbT1c-00443-00114372-00114702 selective Androgen receptor modulators +BwNLFNBbT1c-00444-00114703-00114883 sarms +BwNLFNBbT1c-00445-00114883-00115175 these are all experimental I don't think +BwNLFNBbT1c-00446-00115176-00115595 any of them have been approved +BwNLFNBbT1c-00447-00115596-00115702 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00448-00115703-00116158 by drug regulatory bodies for use in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00449-00116159-00116497 humans but their available gray market +BwNLFNBbT1c-00450-00116498-00116789 then there's just [__] gender [__] +BwNLFNBbT1c-00451-00116790-00116986 around and find out take some +BwNLFNBbT1c-00452-00116988-00117190 testosterone take some estradiol take +BwNLFNBbT1c-00453-00117191-00117431 some progesterone [__] with the dosages +BwNLFNBbT1c-00454-00117432-00117616 see what happens +BwNLFNBbT1c-00455-00117617-00117875 kind of like this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00456-00117876-00117940 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00457-00117941-00118139 somebody I showed this to called it a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00458-00118140-00118402 hormone speed ball and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00459-00118403-00118727 I I can't argue with that I'm sorry I +BwNLFNBbT1c-00460-00118728-00118877 can't +BwNLFNBbT1c-00461-00118878-00119134 um there's a few things that we don't +BwNLFNBbT1c-00462-00119135-00119465 know how to do yet but really +BwNLFNBbT1c-00463-00119466-00119860 this field of study is only a few years +BwNLFNBbT1c-00464-00119861-00120197 old so who knows what we'll see in five +BwNLFNBbT1c-00465-00120198-00120527 years a big one is opting out of voice +BwNLFNBbT1c-00466-00120528-00120754 changes from testosterone you can +BwNLFNBbT1c-00467-00120755-00120958 mitigate this with voice changing or +BwNLFNBbT1c-00468-00120959-00121408 voice training but it's a lot of work +BwNLFNBbT1c-00469-00121409-00121486 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00470-00121488-00121789 haven't seen any +BwNLFNBbT1c-00471-00121790-00122039 well-supported regimen for our +BwNLFNBbT1c-00472-00122040-00122363 selectively opting into breast growth uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00473-00122364-00122686 topical s application at estradiol does +BwNLFNBbT1c-00474-00122688-00123001 not work and is supposedly a cancer risk +BwNLFNBbT1c-00475-00123002-00123352 there's some communities that are trying +BwNLFNBbT1c-00476-00123353-00123539 to do this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00477-00123540-00123640 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00478-00123641-00123845 with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00479-00123846-00124097 non-bio identical estrogen-like +BwNLFNBbT1c-00480-00124098-00124331 substances available +BwNLFNBbT1c-00481-00124332-00124715 in supplements stuff like fenugreek +BwNLFNBbT1c-00482-00124716-00124799 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00483-00124800-00125147 it's really not a well-supported thing +BwNLFNBbT1c-00484-00125148-00125273 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00485-00125274-00125657 I haven't seen any ways to block the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00486-00125658-00125945 Mental effects of testosterone without +BwNLFNBbT1c-00487-00125946-00126193 also blocking its effects on the body +BwNLFNBbT1c-00488-00126194-00126610 and I haven't seen any way to block the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00489-00126611-00126889 physical effects of estradiol +BwNLFNBbT1c-00490-00126890-00127421 whilst allowing the Mental effects +BwNLFNBbT1c-00491-00127422-00127595 um anyway let's talk about hair hair +BwNLFNBbT1c-00492-00127596-00128147 removal hair removal sucks +BwNLFNBbT1c-00493-00128148-00128501 um most of these are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00494-00128502-00128789 um relatively cheap and not too painful +BwNLFNBbT1c-00495-00128790-00129208 or time consuming but somewhat fleeting +BwNLFNBbT1c-00496-00129209-00129347 in effect +BwNLFNBbT1c-00497-00129348-00129419 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00498-00129420-00129701 IPL and Laser are kind of the middle +BwNLFNBbT1c-00499-00129702-00129899 grounds here they have somewhat long +BwNLFNBbT1c-00500-00129900-00130169 lasting effects +BwNLFNBbT1c-00501-00130170-00130571 um but are more expensive +BwNLFNBbT1c-00502-00130572-00130783 um and then the only thing that's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00503-00130783-00131027 reliably able to permanently remove the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00504-00131028-00131189 hair is electrolysis +BwNLFNBbT1c-00505-00131190-00131297 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00506-00131298-00131483 how that works is they stick a thin +BwNLFNBbT1c-00507-00131484-00131789 metal probe into the hair follicle run +BwNLFNBbT1c-00508-00131790-00131963 an electric current through it to fry +BwNLFNBbT1c-00509-00131964-00132227 the root and then pull the hair out +BwNLFNBbT1c-00510-00132228-00132461 one at a time +BwNLFNBbT1c-00511-00132462-00132773 um this is as painful expensive and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00512-00132774-00132989 tedious as you would expect but it is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00513-00132990-00133169 permanent +BwNLFNBbT1c-00514-00133170-00133235 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00515-00133236-00133583 though usually it requires three to four +BwNLFNBbT1c-00516-00133584-00133954 passes over a particular area because +BwNLFNBbT1c-00517-00133955-00134093 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00518-00134094-00134297 not all of the hair follicles will be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00519-00134298-00134561 killed the first time +BwNLFNBbT1c-00520-00134562-00134809 um surgeries +BwNLFNBbT1c-00521-00134810-00135089 masculinizing or de-feminizing surgeries +BwNLFNBbT1c-00522-00135090-00135437 depending on what one's goals are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00523-00135438-00135527 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00524-00135528-00135851 the big one is chest reconstruction or +BwNLFNBbT1c-00525-00135852-00136090 breast removal +BwNLFNBbT1c-00526-00136091-00136228 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00527-00136229-00136516 there's body contouring like liposuction +BwNLFNBbT1c-00528-00136517-00136673 type things +BwNLFNBbT1c-00529-00136674-00137009 Facial masculinization Surgery exists I +BwNLFNBbT1c-00530-00137010-00137128 didn't know about that until I started +BwNLFNBbT1c-00531-00137129-00137381 researching for this talk +BwNLFNBbT1c-00532-00137382-00137483 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00533-00137484-00137657 a lot of the other ones you would expect +BwNLFNBbT1c-00534-00137658-00138052 removal of uterus hysterectomy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00535-00138053-00138143 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00536-00138144-00138527 in terms of creation of a penis there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00537-00138528-00138743 actually two options here there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00538-00138744-00138995 phalloplasty which is the only way +BwNLFNBbT1c-00539-00138996-00139378 you'll get one that is sized +BwNLFNBbT1c-00540-00139379-00139661 similar to what a CIS man would have and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00541-00139662-00139783 then there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00542-00139784-00139954 metodoplasty which I might be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00543-00139955-00140221 mispronouncing which is a surgical +BwNLFNBbT1c-00544-00140222-00140543 enlargement of the clitoris typically +BwNLFNBbT1c-00545-00140544-00140790 combined with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00546-00140791-00141059 causing growth hormonally +BwNLFNBbT1c-00547-00141060-00141119 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00548-00141120-00141497 basically they cut a ligament to allow +BwNLFNBbT1c-00549-00141498-00141799 it to extend further out of the body +BwNLFNBbT1c-00550-00141800-00142114 scrotoplasty is an option vaginectomy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00551-00142115-00142457 removal of the vagina is an option +BwNLFNBbT1c-00552-00142458-00142639 urethral lengthening +BwNLFNBbT1c-00553-00142640-00143004 is done with a phalloplasty to allow +BwNLFNBbT1c-00554-00143005-00143231 peeing out of the new +BwNLFNBbT1c-00555-00143232-00143525 ly created penis which is really +BwNLFNBbT1c-00556-00143526-00143778 convenient +BwNLFNBbT1c-00557-00143779-00144311 uh feminizing well breast augmentation +BwNLFNBbT1c-00558-00144312-00144635 is an obvious one though +BwNLFNBbT1c-00559-00144636-00144707 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00560-00144708-00144964 hormonal breast growth +BwNLFNBbT1c-00561-00144965-00145031 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00562-00145032-00145193 is better than a lot of people would +BwNLFNBbT1c-00563-00145194-00145289 expect +BwNLFNBbT1c-00564-00145290-00145609 there's body body contouring +BwNLFNBbT1c-00565-00145610-00146009 Adam's Apple can be removed face can be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00566-00146010-00146321 feminized in general there is something +BwNLFNBbT1c-00567-00146322-00146554 called voice steminizing surgery I think +BwNLFNBbT1c-00568-00146555-00146735 they use a laser to [__] with the vocal +BwNLFNBbT1c-00569-00146736-00146854 cords +BwNLFNBbT1c-00570-00146855-00146939 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00571-00146940-00147247 this is not super +BwNLFNBbT1c-00572-00147248-00147514 recommended the there's a lot of risks +BwNLFNBbT1c-00573-00147515-00147683 of complications and it's not super +BwNLFNBbT1c-00574-00147684-00147989 reliable but it's a thing +BwNLFNBbT1c-00575-00147990-00148277 um orchiotomy removing removal of the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00576-00148278-00148409 testes +BwNLFNBbT1c-00577-00148410-00148666 um this is a thing that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00578-00148667-00149014 is fairly common for patients to get +BwNLFNBbT1c-00579-00149015-00149254 and not plan to get anything else done +BwNLFNBbT1c-00580-00149255-00149477 on the bottom +BwNLFNBbT1c-00581-00149478-00149797 there's penectomy which is almost always +BwNLFNBbT1c-00582-00149798-00150197 not simply removing it but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00583-00150198-00150466 um preserving some of the tissue and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00584-00150467-00150673 moving it elsewhere +BwNLFNBbT1c-00585-00150674-00150959 vaginoplasty is actually come in several +BwNLFNBbT1c-00586-00150960-00151277 varieties the oldest one is the sigmoid +BwNLFNBbT1c-00587-00151278-00151564 vaginoplasty chooses a portion of the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00588-00151565-00151787 sigmoid colon +BwNLFNBbT1c-00589-00151788-00152116 most common type these days is a penile +BwNLFNBbT1c-00590-00152117-00152399 inversion vaginoplasty which is exactly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00591-00152400-00152614 what it sounds like +BwNLFNBbT1c-00592-00152615-00152723 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00593-00152724-00153011 there's vaginoplasty using skin grafts +BwNLFNBbT1c-00594-00153012-00153316 from various possible sources there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00595-00153317-00153587 hybrid techniques and then the newest +BwNLFNBbT1c-00596-00153588-00153923 one is known as the peritoneal pull +BwNLFNBbT1c-00597-00153924-00154259 through this uses tissue from the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00598-00154260-00154535 abdominal lining +BwNLFNBbT1c-00599-00154536-00154751 um which has a lot of the nice features +BwNLFNBbT1c-00600-00154752-00155111 of the intestinal tissue without a lot +BwNLFNBbT1c-00601-00155112-00155297 of the drawbacks of having to remove +BwNLFNBbT1c-00602-00155298-00155537 intestinal tissues also peritoneal +BwNLFNBbT1c-00603-00155538-00155759 tissue grows back really fast +BwNLFNBbT1c-00604-00155760-00155933 uh and the whole thing can be done +BwNLFNBbT1c-00605-00155934-00156209 laparoscopically +BwNLFNBbT1c-00606-00156210-00156413 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00607-00156414-00156640 tissue self-lubricates a bit nice and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00608-00156641-00156857 flexible +BwNLFNBbT1c-00609-00156858-00157181 um it's a good option for some people uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00610-00157182-00157409 labioplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00611-00157410-00157523 um just +BwNLFNBbT1c-00612-00157524-00157702 in a lot of cases more accurately +BwNLFNBbT1c-00613-00157703-00157954 referred to as a volvoplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00614-00157955-00158290 does what you expect clitoroplasty is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00615-00158291-00158489 a creation of a clitoris from part of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00616-00158490-00158878 the from part of the penile tissue +BwNLFNBbT1c-00617-00158879-00159004 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00618-00159005-00159209 quick note here +BwNLFNBbT1c-00619-00159210-00159593 um what medical procedures people have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00620-00159594-00159916 or plan to have for their transition has +BwNLFNBbT1c-00621-00159917-00160097 no bearing on the validity of their +BwNLFNBbT1c-00622-00160098-00160325 identity and um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00623-00160326-00160649 not really any of your business so +BwNLFNBbT1c-00624-00160650-00161254 don't ask it's rude +BwNLFNBbT1c-00625-00161255-00161464 okay +BwNLFNBbT1c-00626-00161465-00161663 it's shorter than I expected when I went +BwNLFNBbT1c-00627-00161664-00161789 to go make it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00628-00161790-00161885 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00629-00161886-00162047 I I will note that there are some +BwNLFNBbT1c-00630-00162048-00162347 combinations of things that have not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00631-00162348-00162659 been tried and some that surgeons won't +BwNLFNBbT1c-00632-00162660-00163013 do for various reasons but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00633-00163014-00163228 you know if you want urethral +BwNLFNBbT1c-00634-00163229-00163433 lengthening well you've got to have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00635-00163434-00163637 a you've got to build a new penis to put +BwNLFNBbT1c-00636-00163638-00163799 the urethra in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00637-00163800-00164093 um if you want a clitoroplasty you know +BwNLFNBbT1c-00638-00164094-00164225 you're going to have to give up your +BwNLFNBbT1c-00639-00164226-00164314 penis +BwNLFNBbT1c-00640-00164315-00164578 um that might not always be true if they +BwNLFNBbT1c-00641-00164579-00164747 find other places to Source nerves from +BwNLFNBbT1c-00642-00164748-00165089 though uh penile inversion vaginoplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00643-00165090-00165293 obviously you can't turn your penis +BwNLFNBbT1c-00644-00165294-00165545 inside out and keep it so +BwNLFNBbT1c-00645-00165546-00165851 uh and uh vaginectomy if you want the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00646-00165852-00166171 vagina gone the uterus has to go too +BwNLFNBbT1c-00647-00166172-00166559 otherwise there will be problems +BwNLFNBbT1c-00648-00166560-00166726 okay +BwNLFNBbT1c-00649-00166727-00167063 um so bottom surgery secret menu +BwNLFNBbT1c-00650-00167064-00167321 um in general uh no matter how you're +BwNLFNBbT1c-00651-00167322-00167440 born you can get something called +BwNLFNBbT1c-00652-00167441-00167771 nullification which is removable removal +BwNLFNBbT1c-00653-00167772-00167963 of all genitals +BwNLFNBbT1c-00654-00167964-00168028 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00655-00168029-00168413 optionally a sense8 portion of tissue +BwNLFNBbT1c-00656-00168414-00168743 can be left on the pubic mounds +BwNLFNBbT1c-00657-00168744-00168976 urethra can be left approximately in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00658-00168977-00169297 place or rerouted to the perineum +BwNLFNBbT1c-00659-00169298-00169763 that's just forward of the anus though +BwNLFNBbT1c-00660-00169764-00170154 if one does that they are under +BwNLFNBbT1c-00661-00170155-00170428 significantly increased risk of urinary +BwNLFNBbT1c-00662-00170429-00170545 tract +BwNLFNBbT1c-00663-00170546-00170759 infections because +BwNLFNBbT1c-00664-00170760-00170995 of the bacteria down there +BwNLFNBbT1c-00665-00170996-00171275 in terms of masculinizing and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00666-00171276-00171466 de-feminizing surgeries there's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00667-00171467-00171689 phalloplasty without burial which just +BwNLFNBbT1c-00668-00171690-00171881 basically means you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00669-00171882-00172278 leave the clitoris in place and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00670-00172279-00172626 build a penis out of skin graft +BwNLFNBbT1c-00671-00172627-00172937 interestingly you can also get a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00672-00172938-00173345 phalloplasty with a midoplasty so then +BwNLFNBbT1c-00673-00173346-00173554 you end up with a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00674-00173555-00173837 smaller penis and a bigger penis two +BwNLFNBbT1c-00675-00173838-00174149 dicks uh unlike double dick dude on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00676-00174150-00174502 Reddit like this is a real thing +BwNLFNBbT1c-00677-00174503-00174809 um anyway hysterectomy scrotoplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00678-00174810-00174959 vaginectomy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00679-00174960-00175109 urethral lengthening +BwNLFNBbT1c-00680-00175110-00175378 all pretty much optional +BwNLFNBbT1c-00681-00175379-00175481 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00682-00175482-00175793 varies from surgeon to surgeon what you +BwNLFNBbT1c-00683-00175794-00176081 can opt into or out of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00684-00176082-00176152 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00685-00176153-00176387 there's only a couple surgeons now that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00686-00176388-00176657 will do urethral lengthening on patients +BwNLFNBbT1c-00687-00176658-00176926 who don't get a vaginectomy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00688-00176927-00177214 um just because it really has very high +BwNLFNBbT1c-00689-00177215-00177509 complication rates I think the best +BwNLFNBbT1c-00690-00177510-00177709 surgeons for doing this have 50 +BwNLFNBbT1c-00691-00177710-00178181 complication rates and some surgeons had +BwNLFNBbT1c-00692-00178182-00178397 complication rates as high as 90 before +BwNLFNBbT1c-00693-00178398-00178685 they stopped doing it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00694-00178686-00178781 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00695-00178782-00178966 interestingly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00696-00178967-00179237 there are also some options uh the other +BwNLFNBbT1c-00697-00179238-00179359 way around +BwNLFNBbT1c-00698-00179360-00179626 vaginoplasty without penectomy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00699-00179627-00179687 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00700-00179688-00179938 this goes by a couple names it's new +BwNLFNBbT1c-00701-00179939-00180119 enough that the terminology hasn't +BwNLFNBbT1c-00702-00180120-00180388 really been standardized you might hear +BwNLFNBbT1c-00703-00180389-00180595 it referred to as penile preservation +BwNLFNBbT1c-00704-00180596-00180809 vaginoplasty phallus preserving +BwNLFNBbT1c-00705-00180810-00181235 vaginoplasty penis sparing vaginoplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00706-00181236-00181588 um probably other names uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00707-00181589-00182009 as far as anyone can determine the first +BwNLFNBbT1c-00708-00182010-00182488 time this was done was in 2018 +BwNLFNBbT1c-00709-00182489-00182711 um this is possible with any type of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00710-00182712-00182971 vaginoplasty except for penile inversion +BwNLFNBbT1c-00711-00182972-00183316 uh currently this is mostly done with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00712-00183317-00183493 peritoneal pull through just because +BwNLFNBbT1c-00713-00183494-00183713 that offers a fairly good set of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00714-00183714-00183845 trade-offs +BwNLFNBbT1c-00715-00183846-00184078 I'm aware of four surgeons openly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00716-00184079-00184240 offering this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00717-00184241-00184547 um I have heard rumors that there are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00718-00184548-00184888 another four I do not know who they are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00719-00184889-00185021 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00720-00185022-00185237 as far as I've been able to determine +BwNLFNBbT1c-00721-00185238-00185416 number of patients who've gone through +BwNLFNBbT1c-00722-00185417-00185609 with this is currently +BwNLFNBbT1c-00723-00185610-00186028 somewhere in the 100 150 range possibly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00724-00186029-00186340 a little higher so this is this is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00725-00186341-00186647 pretty experimental but it works +BwNLFNBbT1c-00726-00186648-00186863 um theoretically testicles can be +BwNLFNBbT1c-00727-00186864-00187097 retained functionally +BwNLFNBbT1c-00728-00187098-00187199 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00729-00187200-00187523 I am aware of a patient who had a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00730-00187524-00187787 surgeon agree to do it for +BwNLFNBbT1c-00731-00187788-00188147 uh for her but that surgery has not +BwNLFNBbT1c-00732-00188148-00188387 taken place yet +BwNLFNBbT1c-00733-00188388-00188773 um I also want to note that there is a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00734-00188774-00189083 clinic offering something called penile +BwNLFNBbT1c-00735-00189084-00189395 perinatale +BwNLFNBbT1c-00736-00189396-00189623 pronunciation is hard +BwNLFNBbT1c-00737-00189624-00189952 um anyway that is not uh penile +BwNLFNBbT1c-00738-00189953-00190090 preserving +BwNLFNBbT1c-00739-00190091-00190204 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00740-00190205-00190457 that's that's a hybrid vaginoplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00741-00190458-00190702 technique and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00742-00190703-00190978 the clinic that is offering that I I +BwNLFNBbT1c-00743-00190979-00191207 looked at their website and they made +BwNLFNBbT1c-00744-00191208-00191416 some claims that I find really really +BwNLFNBbT1c-00745-00191417-00191831 suspicious and unrealistic and I would +BwNLFNBbT1c-00746-00191832-00192047 that's what I'm going to say about that +BwNLFNBbT1c-00747-00192048-00192401 um I mentioned orchiectomy earlier +BwNLFNBbT1c-00748-00192402-00192751 um that can be done on its own and then +BwNLFNBbT1c-00749-00192752-00193019 confusingly there's uh there's an option +BwNLFNBbT1c-00750-00193020-00193126 called +BwNLFNBbT1c-00751-00193127-00193337 zero depth or minimal depth of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00752-00193338-00193564 vaginoplasty which doesn't include a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00753-00193565-00193775 vaginoplasty at all and would be more +BwNLFNBbT1c-00754-00193776-00194011 accurately termed +BwNLFNBbT1c-00755-00194012-00194381 vulviplasty but that that's where they +BwNLFNBbT1c-00756-00194382-00194801 do basically everything in a standard +BwNLFNBbT1c-00757-00194802-00195047 bottom surgery package except for +BwNLFNBbT1c-00758-00195048-00195240 building the vaginal Canal +BwNLFNBbT1c-00759-00195241-00195587 this is great for patients +BwNLFNBbT1c-00760-00195588-00195833 who don't really desire that sort of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00761-00195834-00196187 penetration or aren't comfortable with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00762-00196188-00196493 keeping up on dilation because it's got +BwNLFNBbT1c-00763-00196494-00196823 a much faster recovery time okay uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00764-00196824-00197063 pictures +BwNLFNBbT1c-00765-00197064-00197225 um I want to be really clear +BwNLFNBbT1c-00766-00197226-00197513 I have direct permission for all of +BwNLFNBbT1c-00767-00197514-00197597 these +BwNLFNBbT1c-00768-00197598-00197837 uh and I have permission for even +BwNLFNBbT1c-00769-00197838-00198052 providing the links +BwNLFNBbT1c-00770-00198053-00198137 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00771-00198138-00198347 these are pictures of genitals in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00772-00198348-00198587 non-standard configurations if you are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00773-00198588-00198821 not comfortable seeing that close your +BwNLFNBbT1c-00774-00198822-00199300 eyes or leave please +BwNLFNBbT1c-00775-00199301-00199397 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00776-00199398-00199769 again +BwNLFNBbT1c-00777-00199770-00200081 not my fault if you stay +BwNLFNBbT1c-00778-00200082-00200219 okay +BwNLFNBbT1c-00779-00200220-00200459 um this is uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00780-00200460-00200711 believed to be the first person to have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00781-00200712-00200850 specifically +BwNLFNBbT1c-00782-00200851-00201161 non-binary bottom surgery +BwNLFNBbT1c-00783-00201162-00201538 um they did this in 2015 they've got a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00784-00201539-00201725 fairly extensive blog about the process +BwNLFNBbT1c-00785-00201726-00201971 they give by gerbil +BwNLFNBbT1c-00786-00201972-00202061 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00787-00202062-00202414 fairly standard phalloplasty with a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00788-00202415-00202547 forearm +BwNLFNBbT1c-00789-00202548-00202864 donor site for The graft +BwNLFNBbT1c-00790-00202865-00202997 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00791-00202998-00203278 they had urethral lengthening which did +BwNLFNBbT1c-00792-00203279-00203531 have complications but eventually was +BwNLFNBbT1c-00793-00203532-00203837 sorted out no scrotoplasty no +BwNLFNBbT1c-00794-00203838-00204004 vaginectomy and I believe no +BwNLFNBbT1c-00795-00204005-00204328 hysterectomy because they do mention on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00796-00204329-00204550 their blog still menstruating when +BwNLFNBbT1c-00797-00204551-00204697 they're not on birth control +BwNLFNBbT1c-00798-00204698-00205036 there are some other people with similar +BwNLFNBbT1c-00799-00205037-00205331 procedures who have been able to even +BwNLFNBbT1c-00800-00205332-00205631 get pregnant after having this done and +BwNLFNBbT1c-00801-00205632-00205925 carried a term so +BwNLFNBbT1c-00802-00205926-00206062 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00803-00206063-00206321 really not a good idea to give birth +BwNLFNBbT1c-00804-00206321-00206566 vaginally after this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00805-00206567-00206638 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00806-00206639-00206957 so everybody who's done it has had a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00807-00206958-00207064 C-section +BwNLFNBbT1c-00808-00207065-00207466 uh what else do we have +BwNLFNBbT1c-00809-00207467-00207664 um there's another person who I got in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00810-00207665-00207766 touch with +BwNLFNBbT1c-00811-00207767-00207923 um who was born with feminine Anatomy +BwNLFNBbT1c-00812-00207923-00208355 who has a slightly more interesting +BwNLFNBbT1c-00813-00208356-00208619 um anatomical configuration +BwNLFNBbT1c-00814-00208619-00208931 um they did not want their photos shared +BwNLFNBbT1c-00815-00208932-00209207 directly but invited me to include a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00816-00209208-00209525 link here it is they're on Reddit they +BwNLFNBbT1c-00817-00209526-00209789 have posted pictures +BwNLFNBbT1c-00818-00209790-00210221 um you can go look at those if you like +BwNLFNBbT1c-00819-00210221-00210581 um this patient is to the best of her +BwNLFNBbT1c-00820-00210582-00210946 knowledge the second person to get a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00821-00210948-00211217 penile penis preserving vaginoplasty +BwNLFNBbT1c-00822-00211217-00211379 this was in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00823-00211380-00211513 2018 +BwNLFNBbT1c-00824-00211514-00211829 she was the first person to talk about +BwNLFNBbT1c-00825-00211830-00212071 getting the procedure publicly +BwNLFNBbT1c-00826-00212071-00212387 and and share pictures +BwNLFNBbT1c-00827-00212388-00212632 um she's on Reddit you can go dig up +BwNLFNBbT1c-00828-00212633-00212825 those posts if you want to see it she +BwNLFNBbT1c-00829-00212826-00213094 answered a whole bunch of questions +BwNLFNBbT1c-00830-00213096-00213341 um hers was done with an abdominal +BwNLFNBbT1c-00831-00213342-00213587 tissue skin graft +BwNLFNBbT1c-00832-00213588-00213779 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00833-00213780-00214115 because at the time peritoneal pull +BwNLFNBbT1c-00834-00214116-00214415 through was super super new +BwNLFNBbT1c-00835-00214416-00214684 um you can see the the somewhat healed +BwNLFNBbT1c-00836-00214685-00214781 scar +BwNLFNBbT1c-00837-00214782-00215008 I mean they're mostly faded +BwNLFNBbT1c-00838-00215009-00215260 um that that picture +BwNLFNBbT1c-00839-00215261-00215627 um the the first picture is uh 12 months +BwNLFNBbT1c-00840-00215628-00215867 post-op the others are four years +BwNLFNBbT1c-00841-00215867-00216077 post-op and two years after a revision +BwNLFNBbT1c-00842-00216078-00216221 surgery +BwNLFNBbT1c-00843-00216221-00216492 um a lot of bottom surgeries require +BwNLFNBbT1c-00844-00216494-00216748 actual actually multiple surgeries +BwNLFNBbT1c-00845-00216750-00217042 because it's not really feasible to get +BwNLFNBbT1c-00846-00217044-00217481 everything right in one surgery she also +BwNLFNBbT1c-00847-00217482-00217684 wanted me to mention that she's been +BwNLFNBbT1c-00848-00217685-00218153 diagnosed after surgery with classical +BwNLFNBbT1c-00849-00218154-00218573 ehlers danlos syndrome which causes some +BwNLFNBbT1c-00850-00218573-00219041 loose tissue and odd scarring appearance +BwNLFNBbT1c-00851-00219042-00219179 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00852-00219180-00219467 this is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00853-00219467-00219856 a patient who was actually the first one +BwNLFNBbT1c-00854-00219857-00220073 that was done by +BwNLFNBbT1c-00855-00220073-00220225 her surgeon +BwNLFNBbT1c-00856-00220226-00220571 these photos are about six months +BwNLFNBbT1c-00857-00220571-00220708 post-op +BwNLFNBbT1c-00858-00220709-00220860 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00859-00220861-00221237 and they do porn so if you go to their +BwNLFNBbT1c-00860-00221238-00221608 if you go to her Twitter it is porn just +BwNLFNBbT1c-00861-00221609-00221748 so you know +BwNLFNBbT1c-00862-00221750-00222065 uh finally +BwNLFNBbT1c-00863-00222066-00222371 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00864-00222371-00222496 oh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00865-00222498-00222731 um this is another person uh +BwNLFNBbT1c-00866-00222732-00222946 also done around the same time as the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00867-00222948-00223181 previous patient these photos are four +BwNLFNBbT1c-00868-00223182-00223384 months post-op +BwNLFNBbT1c-00869-00223385-00223613 um no labioplasty attempted during the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00870-00223614-00223805 initial surgery I will get into why in a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00871-00223806-00223942 moment +BwNLFNBbT1c-00872-00223944-00224153 um this is a +BwNLFNBbT1c-00873-00224154-00224405 dilator +BwNLFNBbT1c-00874-00224406-00224521 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00875-00224521-00224917 she's able to comfortably +BwNLFNBbT1c-00876-00224917-00225203 accommodate an average sized penis in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00877-00225204-00225388 her vagina +BwNLFNBbT1c-00878-00225389-00225521 [Music] +BwNLFNBbT1c-00879-00225521-00225869 we have an immediate post-op photo here +BwNLFNBbT1c-00880-00225869-00225953 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00881-00225954-00226084 part of the reason all these are in +BwNLFNBbT1c-00882-00226085-00226348 grayscale blood hits +BwNLFNBbT1c-00883-00226350-00226553 nowhere near as hard when it's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00884-00226554-00226756 desaturated like this +BwNLFNBbT1c-00885-00226757-00226937 um but yeah that's that's immediately +BwNLFNBbT1c-00886-00226938-00227092 post-op +BwNLFNBbT1c-00887-00227094-00227405 um the other two photos are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00888-00227406-00227692 about seven months later in the middle +BwNLFNBbT1c-00889-00227694-00227837 you can see +BwNLFNBbT1c-00890-00227838-00228094 in contrast to the immediate post-op +BwNLFNBbT1c-00891-00228096-00228521 photo the labia has become detached from +BwNLFNBbT1c-00892-00228521-00228827 the vaginal opening and retracted back +BwNLFNBbT1c-00893-00228828-00228941 up +BwNLFNBbT1c-00894-00228942-00229223 um this is a fairly persistent problem +BwNLFNBbT1c-00895-00229223-00229579 with using scrotal tissue as +BwNLFNBbT1c-00896-00229580-00229960 donor tissue for building a labia but it +BwNLFNBbT1c-00897-00229961-00230353 can be fixed in revision surgeries +BwNLFNBbT1c-00898-00230354-00230537 one thing that I found really +BwNLFNBbT1c-00899-00230538-00230687 interesting in looking at this patient's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00900-00230688-00230842 photos is +BwNLFNBbT1c-00901-00230844-00231196 The thermoregulation Reflex from the +BwNLFNBbT1c-00902-00231198-00231623 scrotal tissue still works I don't know +BwNLFNBbT1c-00903-00231623-00232048 by what mechanism that is but +BwNLFNBbT1c-00904-00232050-00232229 kind of cool +BwNLFNBbT1c-00905-00232230-00232463 uh and um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00906-00232464-00232708 right on time I have some resources if +BwNLFNBbT1c-00907-00232709-00232984 we can leave this slide up +BwNLFNBbT1c-00908-00232985-00233092 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00909-00233094-00233392 I have I have a short link for where +BwNLFNBbT1c-00910-00233394-00233573 these slides will end up in a few hours +BwNLFNBbT1c-00911-00233573-00233873 once I have time to upload them +BwNLFNBbT1c-00912-00233873-00233951 um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00913-00233952-00234269 no q a section here but the resources +BwNLFNBbT1c-00914-00234269-00234587 I've got on that slide on this slide are +BwNLFNBbT1c-00915-00234588-00234839 quite good and um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00916-00234840-00235103 will lead you to pretty much any other +BwNLFNBbT1c-00917-00235104-00235313 information you could want +BwNLFNBbT1c-00918-00235314-00235798 um I'm happy to respond to people on +BwNLFNBbT1c-00919-00235800-00236087 Twitter I have a contact page on my +BwNLFNBbT1c-00920-00236088-00236201 website +BwNLFNBbT1c-00921-00236202-00236410 and um +BwNLFNBbT1c-00922-00236411-00236632 I should get out of here so that Matthew +BwNLFNBbT1c-00923-00236633-00236789 Garrett can speak +BwNLFNBbT1c-00924-00236790-00236932 um you should stay for his talk he's +BwNLFNBbT1c-00925-00236933-00237148 awesome +BwNLFNBbT1c-00926-00237148-00237938 [Applause] +BA3Gy6Xkds8-00000-00000053-00000337 so those stairs +BA3Gy6Xkds8-00001-00000338-00000587 you have to like turn back at or else +BA3Gy6Xkds8-00002-00000588-00002218 you're done for +BA3Gy6Xkds8-00003-00002219-00002465 we're good just skipping some sections +BA3Gy6Xkds8-00004-00002466-00002714 it's all good +BIhi8I1Zrky-00000-00000104-00000206 wow +BIhi8I1Zrky-00001-00000208-00000512 that's not even funny +BIHGHU7ESIM-00000-00000050-00000296 National Grassland is a classification +BIHGHU7ESIM-00001-00000297-00000544 of protected and managed federal lands +BIHGHU7ESIM-00002-00000545-00000767 in the United States authorized by title +BIHGHU7ESIM-00003-00000768-00000977 three of the bank HUD Jones farm tenant +BIHGHU7ESIM-00004-00000977-00001340 Act of 1937 for administrative purposes +BIHGHU7ESIM-00005-00001341-00001558 they are essentially identical to United +BIHGHU7ESIM-00006-00001559-00001772 States national forests except that +BIHGHU7ESIM-00007-00001773-00001946 grasslands are areas primarily +BIHGHU7ESIM-00008-00001947-00002207 consisting of Prairie like national +BIHGHU7ESIM-00009-00002208-00002462 forests National Grasslands may be open +BIHGHU7ESIM-00010-00002463-00002671 for hunting grazing mineral extraction +BIHGHU7ESIM-00011-00002672-00002978 recreation and other uses various +BIHGHU7ESIM-00012-00002979-00003170 national grasslands are typically +BIHGHU7ESIM-00013-00003171-00003350 administered in conjunction with nearby +BIHGHU7ESIM-00014-00003351-00003707 national forests all but three national +BIHGHU7ESIM-00015-00003708-00003902 grasslands are on or at the edge of the +BIHGHU7ESIM-00016-00003903-00004133 Great Plains those three are in +BIHGHU7ESIM-00017-00004134-00004331 southeastern Idaho northeastern +BIHGHU7ESIM-00018-00004332-00004625 California and Central Oregon the three +BIHGHU7ESIM-00019-00004626-00004826 national grasslands in North Dakota +BIHGHU7ESIM-00020-00004827-00005036 together with one in northwestern South +BIHGHU7ESIM-00021-00005037-00005246 Dakota are administered jointly as the +BIHGHU7ESIM-00022-00005247-00005522 Dakota prairie grasslands national +BIHGHU7ESIM-00023-00005523-00005713 grasslands are generally much smaller +BIHGHU7ESIM-00024-00005714-00005951 than national forests whereas a typical +BIHGHU7ESIM-00025-00005952-00006176 National Forest would be about 1 million +BIHGHU7ESIM-00026-00006177-00006470 acres 400,000 hectares the average +BIHGHU7ESIM-00027-00006470-00007069 grassland size is 190 1914 a KERS 77,000 +BIHGHU7ESIM-00028-00007070-00007420 665 hectares the largest National +BIHGHU7ESIM-00029-00007421-00007609 Grassland the Little Missouri National +BIHGHU7ESIM-00030-00007610-00007862 Grassland in North Dakota covers 1 +BIHGHU7ESIM-00031-00007863-00008470 million 28,000 784 acres 416,000 334 +BIHGHU7ESIM-00032-00008471-00008666 hectares which is approximately the +BIHGHU7ESIM-00033-00008667-00008953 median size of a National Forest as of +BIHGHU7ESIM-00034-00008954-00009271 September 30th 2007 the total area of +BIHGHU7ESIM-00035-00009272-00009499 all 20 National Grasslands was three +BIHGHU7ESIM-00036-00009500-00009646 million eight hundred thirty-eight +BIHGHU7ESIM-00037-00009647-00009859 thousand two hundred eighty acres 1 +BIHGHU7ESIM-00038-00009860-00010034 million five hundred fifty-three +BIHGHU7ESIM-00039-00010035-00010721 thousand three hundred hectares +BIHGHU7ESIM-00040-00010722-00011251 topic 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external links +BJfM9uAipiu-00000-00000016-00000262 hello guys it's time for a daisy safety +BJfM9uAipiu-00001-00000263-00000351 check +BJfM9uAipiu-00002-00000352-00000678 not a big day bye page tablet +BJfM9uAipiu-00003-00000679-00001448 baby gate quick locked flat +BLoXztKayCA-00000-00000016-00000167 hello this is gainesville fighterz with +BLoXztKayCA-00001-00000168-00000407 a message of support solidarity and some +BLoXztKayCA-00002-00000408-00000519 information +BLoXztKayCA-00003-00000520-00000839 for our italian members on this occasion +BLoXztKayCA-00004-00000840-00001062 this great occasion of the meeting +BLoXztKayCA-00005-00001063-00001343 uh for the national collective of dm-25 +BLoXztKayCA-00006-00001344-00001543 italia +BLoXztKayCA-00007-00001544-00001743 commerce fans +BLoXztKayCA-00008-00001744-00001967 a month has gone by almost +BLoXztKayCA-00009-00001968-00002102 since the +BLoXztKayCA-00010-00002103-00002302 european parliament election +BLoXztKayCA-00011-00002303-00002487 it was a very difficult campaign we did +BLoXztKayCA-00012-00002488-00002710 not run in italy unfortunately i think +BLoXztKayCA-00013-00002711-00002871 italy is poorer for that europe is +BLoXztKayCA-00014-00002872-00003039 poorer for that we know why we didn't +BLoXztKayCA-00015-00003040-00003359 run because of an arcade an arcane piece +BLoXztKayCA-00016-00003360-00003559 of legislation +BLoXztKayCA-00017-00003560-00003743 we ran across europe in many +BLoXztKayCA-00018-00003744-00003959 jurisdictions it was a very very very +BLoXztKayCA-00019-00003960-00004215 difficult fight a fight out of which the +BLoXztKayCA-00020-00004216-00004495 left collectively lost very badly across +BLoXztKayCA-00021-00004496-00004647 europe +BLoXztKayCA-00022-00004648-00004902 dm25 had a total budget of something +BLoXztKayCA-00023-00004903-00005215 like 70 80 000 years which is +BLoXztKayCA-00024-00005216-00005431 not even enough to run a modest campaign +BLoXztKayCA-00025-00005432-00005679 in a small municipality as you know +BLoXztKayCA-00026-00005680-00005902 and yet we managed to gather +BLoXztKayCA-00027-00005903-00006134 about 1.5 million +BLoXztKayCA-00028-00006135-00006334 votes across europe we're not happy with +BLoXztKayCA-00029-00006335-00006655 the result let's face it we should have +BLoXztKayCA-00030-00006656-00006878 elected +BLoXztKayCA-00031-00006879-00006983 an mep +BLoXztKayCA-00032-00006984-00007134 at least one in +BLoXztKayCA-00033-00007136-00007495 denmark in portugal certainly in france +BLoXztKayCA-00034-00007495-00007663 in greece +BLoXztKayCA-00035-00007664-00007855 in germany me +BLoXztKayCA-00036-00007856-00008063 i failed me +BLoXztKayCA-00037-00008064-00008223 we didn't elect anyone +BLoXztKayCA-00038-00008224-00008455 but nevertheless +BLoXztKayCA-00039-00008456-00008671 this is a excellent time for us to take +BLoXztKayCA-00040-00008672-00008759 stock +BLoXztKayCA-00041-00008760-00008935 of a campaign that was running a +BLoXztKayCA-00042-00008936-00009183 shoestring which led to 1.5 million +BLoXztKayCA-00043-00009184-00009446 votes in greece we were just a whisker +BLoXztKayCA-00044-00009447-00009678 away so were we in denmark +BLoXztKayCA-00045-00009679-00009871 a commons in denmark managed to get in +BLoXztKayCA-00046-00009872-00010119 parliament in the national parliament +BLoXztKayCA-00047-00010120-00010278 and here in greece +BLoXztKayCA-00048-00010279-00010423 i'm +BLoXztKayCA-00049-00010424-00010671 talking to you during the +BLoXztKayCA-00050-00010672-00010991 middle in the midst of a vicious very +BLoXztKayCA-00051-00010992-00011214 difficult campaign +BLoXztKayCA-00052-00011215-00011567 it seems that 25 dm 25 in greece is +BLoXztKayCA-00053-00011568-00011783 going to make it in parliament it seems +BLoXztKayCA-00054-00011784-00011974 as if we're going to have +BLoXztKayCA-00055-00011975-00012119 10 maybe more +BLoXztKayCA-00056-00012120-00012270 members of parliament +BLoXztKayCA-00057-00012271-00012478 uh it's a start +BLoXztKayCA-00058-00012479-00012670 we have a very long way to go +BLoXztKayCA-00059-00012671-00012838 but the ochi +BLoXztKayCA-00060-00012839-00013175 the july 2015 no vote is going to find +BLoXztKayCA-00061-00013176-00013455 the presentation stream through dm25 +BLoXztKayCA-00062-00013456-00013671 a europeanist representation not a +BLoXztKayCA-00063-00013672-00013894 lexiteer representation +BLoXztKayCA-00064-00013895-00014175 in in greek parliament +BLoXztKayCA-00065-00014176-00014335 over the next few months before the end +BLoXztKayCA-00066-00014336-00014438 of this year +BLoXztKayCA-00067-00014440-00014679 all of us increasingly germany across +BLoXztKayCA-00068-00014680-00015007 europe we must take stock we must +BLoXztKayCA-00069-00015008-00015127 rekindle +BLoXztKayCA-00070-00015128-00015391 that which made dm-25 such a significant +BLoXztKayCA-00071-00015391-00015630 force across europe +BLoXztKayCA-00072-00015631-00015894 not so much electorally but at least +BLoXztKayCA-00073-00015895-00016022 intellectually +BLoXztKayCA-00074-00016023-00016279 ideologically and very importantly +BLoXztKayCA-00075-00016280-00016447 programmatically +BLoXztKayCA-00076-00016448-00016711 which now brings me to italy +BLoXztKayCA-00077-00016712-00016967 italy as we all know not just you folks +BLoXztKayCA-00078-00016968-00017167 in italy we all know it +BLoXztKayCA-00079-00017168-00017335 across europe indeed across the world +BLoXztKayCA-00080-00017336-00017527 italy is going to be the battleground +BLoXztKayCA-00081-00017528-00017719 for civilization +BLoXztKayCA-00082-00017720-00018022 for uh the struggle against barbarism +BLoXztKayCA-00083-00018023-00018207 not just socialism versus barbarism +BLoXztKayCA-00084-00018208-00018471 civilization against barbarism in italy +BLoXztKayCA-00085-00018472-00018630 we have matteo salvini going from +BLoXztKayCA-00086-00018631-00018783 strength to strength on the basis of a +BLoXztKayCA-00087-00018784-00018983 combination of your skepticism and +BLoXztKayCA-00088-00018984-00019143 racism +BLoXztKayCA-00089-00019144-00019294 he is going to go +BLoXztKayCA-00090-00019295-00019414 full-on +BLoXztKayCA-00091-00019415-00019543 with +BLoXztKayCA-00092-00019544-00019847 a monetarist ridmanian +BLoXztKayCA-00093-00019848-00020022 narrative on +BLoXztKayCA-00094-00020023-00020150 very low +BLoXztKayCA-00095-00020151-00020375 taxes for business +BLoXztKayCA-00096-00020376-00020494 so he's going to be attacking the +BLoXztKayCA-00097-00020495-00020767 european union from an ultra right-wing +BLoXztKayCA-00098-00020768-00021094 monetarist height and perspective that +BLoXztKayCA-00099-00021095-00021343 combines the worst of neoliberalism +BLoXztKayCA-00100-00021344-00021583 with racism +BLoXztKayCA-00101-00021584-00021983 now who is going to confront sarvini's +BLoXztKayCA-00102-00021984-00022199 malignancy is going to be the italian +BLoXztKayCA-00103-00022200-00022478 left what +BLoXztKayCA-00104-00022479-00022822 has been left over those relics +BLoXztKayCA-00105-00022823-00023007 it can only be the m25 it cannot be the +BLoXztKayCA-00106-00023008-00023199 pd it cannot be any of them +BLoXztKayCA-00107-00023200-00023399 now we are not strong enough +BLoXztKayCA-00108-00023400-00023567 but we have +BLoXztKayCA-00109-00023568-00023775 a sufficient foundation on which to +BLoXztKayCA-00110-00023776-00023950 build strength +BLoXztKayCA-00111-00023951-00024207 and we have to +BLoXztKayCA-00112-00024208-00024447 build the m25s team 25 forget the +BLoXztKayCA-00113-00024448-00024663 frankenstein coalitions with all the +BLoXztKayCA-00114-00024664-00024894 remnants of the left they have proven +BLoXztKayCA-00115-00024895-00025175 absolutely impotent and absolutely +BLoXztKayCA-00116-00025176-00025478 unreliable as potential partners the m25 +BLoXztKayCA-00117-00025479-00025694 italia must build its own bases that's +BLoXztKayCA-00118-00025695-00025894 my view at least you have to decide on +BLoXztKayCA-00119-00025895-00026111 your own and whatever you decide the +BLoXztKayCA-00120-00026112-00026270 rest of us dms are going to go along +BLoXztKayCA-00121-00026272-00026358 with +BLoXztKayCA-00122-00026360-00026590 but the italian national collective the +BLoXztKayCA-00123-00026591-00026879 italian and vector wing must become the +BLoXztKayCA-00124-00026880-00027087 foundation in which dm-25 italia +BLoXztKayCA-00125-00027088-00027183 rebuilds +BLoXztKayCA-00126-00027183-00027343 builds upon everything that you have +BLoXztKayCA-00127-00027344-00027607 achieved in the last year two years +BLoXztKayCA-00128-00027608-00027967 so that we can be the principal opponent +BLoXztKayCA-00129-00027968-00028174 of misanthrope in italy +BLoXztKayCA-00130-00028175-00028446 in this context it is crucial that all +BLoXztKayCA-00131-00028447-00028662 of you step up +BLoXztKayCA-00132-00028663-00028911 in this forthcoming election for the +BLoXztKayCA-00133-00028912-00029118 national collective and our electoral +BLoXztKayCA-00134-00029119-00029367 wing in italy it's important that we +BLoXztKayCA-00135-00029368-00029551 have new blood that many of the +BLoXztKayCA-00136-00029552-00029695 activists that have come through the +BLoXztKayCA-00137-00029695-00029983 movement of dm-25 in italia +BLoXztKayCA-00138-00029983-00030102 now +BLoXztKayCA-00139-00030103-00030190 reach +BLoXztKayCA-00140-00030191-00030423 the level of maturity +BLoXztKayCA-00141-00030424-00030590 and penetrate +BLoXztKayCA-00142-00030591-00030687 the +BLoXztKayCA-00143-00030688-00030823 organization +BLoXztKayCA-00144-00030824-00030999 the national collective the electoral +BLoXztKayCA-00145-00031000-00031214 wing board whatever you call it +BLoXztKayCA-00146-00031216-00031399 uh i would like to to see +BLoXztKayCA-00147-00031400-00031751 uh some of you um be candidates for the +BLoXztKayCA-00148-00031752-00032111 the the dm25 the broad umbrella dm-25 +BLoXztKayCA-00149-00032112-00032287 coordinating collective the cc as we +BLoXztKayCA-00150-00032288-00032614 call it we want you to +BLoXztKayCA-00151-00032616-00032871 take hold of the levers of tm-25 in +BLoXztKayCA-00152-00032872-00033111 italy as well as more broadly +BLoXztKayCA-00153-00033112-00033302 and lead the fight across europe and of +BLoXztKayCA-00154-00033303-00033737 course in italy carpe diem +BLoXztKayCA-00155-00033738-00034207 [Music] +BLoXztKayCA-00156-00034208-00034416 you +BMl33DEvp4u-00000-00000125-00000894 [Music] +BMl33DEvp4u-00001-00000896-00001047 oh +BMl33DEvp4u-00002-00001048-00002799 [Music] +BMl33DEvp4u-00003-00002800-00003232 ah +BMl33DEvp4u-00004-00003233-00004854 [Music] +BMl33DEvp4u-00005-00004855-00004968 do +BMl33DEvp4u-00006-00004969-00005790 [Music] +BMl33DEvp4u-00007-00005791-00006455 [Music] +BMl33DEvp4u-00008-00006456-00007078 [Music] +BMl33DEvp4u-00009-00007079-00007700 my 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+BMyUiuhecuu-00011-00002176-00002407 my name is david knight i'm an assistant +BMyUiuhecuu-00012-00002408-00002623 professor in the department of human +BMyUiuhecuu-00013-00002624-00002895 dimensions of natural resources here at +BMyUiuhecuu-00014-00002896-00003135 colorado state university +BMyUiuhecuu-00015-00003136-00003295 [Music] +BMyUiuhecuu-00016-00003296-00003503 our bachelor of science degree in +BMyUiuhecuu-00017-00003504-00003703 natural resource tourism provides +BMyUiuhecuu-00018-00003704-00003975 students with an understanding really of +BMyUiuhecuu-00019-00003976-00004191 key tourism management as well as +BMyUiuhecuu-00020-00004192-00004454 marketing and planning skills supported +BMyUiuhecuu-00021-00004455-00004702 by a strong foundation in natural +BMyUiuhecuu-00022-00004703-00004851 resource management +BMyUiuhecuu-00023-00004852-00005143 [Music] +BMyUiuhecuu-00024-00005144-00005399 my name is julie lipson i'm a senior in +BMyUiuhecuu-00025-00005400-00005615 the natural resource tourism program and +BMyUiuhecuu-00026-00005616-00005918 i'm born and raised in toronto canada +BMyUiuhecuu-00027-00005919-00006095 i love to be outside that's why i chose +BMyUiuhecuu-00028-00006096-00006247 this college in the first place my +BMyUiuhecuu-00029-00006248-00006510 biggest passion is skiing and hiking +BMyUiuhecuu-00030-00006511-00006614 in the winter you'll see me on the +BMyUiuhecuu-00031-00006615-00006767 mountain when i'm not in the classroom +BMyUiuhecuu-00032-00006768-00006878 in the summer you'll see me on the +BMyUiuhecuu-00033-00006879-00007014 mountain when i'm not in the classroom +BMyUiuhecuu-00034-00007015-00007537 it's pretty simple +BMyUiuhecuu-00035-00007538-00008014 [Music] +BMyUiuhecuu-00036-00008015-00008159 those are the reasons why i'm here +BMyUiuhecuu-00037-00008159-00008295 they're the reasons why i'm going into +BMyUiuhecuu-00038-00008296-00008439 the ski industry in the outdoor industry +BMyUiuhecuu-00039-00008440-00008924 in the first place +BMyUiuhecuu-00040-00008925-00009206 [Music] +BMyUiuhecuu-00041-00009207-00009367 we're the largest natural resource +BMyUiuhecuu-00042-00009368-00009583 tourism program in the state of colorado +BMyUiuhecuu-00043-00009584-00009663 and +BMyUiuhecuu-00044-00009664-00009814 we really work hard to prepare our +BMyUiuhecuu-00045-00009815-00010006 graduates to become future leaders of +BMyUiuhecuu-00046-00010007-00010319 the tourism industry +BMyUiuhecuu-00047-00010320-00010542 studying tourism gives our students the +BMyUiuhecuu-00048-00010543-00010727 opportunity to do what they love for a +BMyUiuhecuu-00049-00010728-00011023 living and honestly what better way to +BMyUiuhecuu-00050-00011024-00011309 spend your life +BMyUiuhecuu-00051-00011310-00011759 [Music] +BMyUiuhecuu-00052-00011760-00011968 you +BpjqiHV1vzu-00000-00000548-00000763 you say this boys too fat to play +BpjqiHV1vzu-00001-00000764-00000928 football yeah let me tell you a story 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+BplCq9pUOW4-00006-00008484-00008800 so +BplCq9pUOW4-00007-00008801-00009492 [Music] +BplCq9pUOW4-00009-00015484-00015775 so +BplCq9pUOW4-00010-00015776-00016925 [Music] +BplCq9pUOW4-00012-00020487-00020695 you +BO0MS0kXP7M-00000-00000043-00000484 an abugida listen from das babaji de or +BO0MS0kXP7M-00001-00000485-00000719 alpha syllabary is a segmental writing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00002-00000720-00000881 system in which consonant vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00003-00000882-00001073 sequences are written as a unit each +BO0MS0kXP7M-00004-00001074-00001291 unit is based on a consonant letter and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00005-00001292-00001547 vowel notation is secondary this +BO0MS0kXP7M-00006-00001548-00001766 contrasts with a full alphabet in which +BO0MS0kXP7M-00007-00001767-00002000 vowels have status equal to consonants +BO0MS0kXP7M-00008-00002001-00002225 and with an abjad in which vowel marking +BO0MS0kXP7M-00009-00002226-00002441 is absent partial or optional although +BO0MS0kXP7M-00010-00002442-00002696 in less formal contexts all three types +BO0MS0kXP7M-00011-00002697-00002966 of script may be termed alphabet the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00012-00002967-00003133 terms also contrast them with a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00013-00003134-00003359 syllabary in which the symbols cannot be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00014-00003360-00003529 split into separate consonants and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00015-00003530-00003833 vowels abugidas include the extensive +BO0MS0kXP7M-00016-00003834-00004045 brahmic family of scripts of South and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00017-00004046-00004256 Southeast Asia Semitic at the optics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00018-00004257-00004394 scripts and canadian aboriginal +BO0MS0kXP7M-00019-00004395-00004636 syllabics which are themselves based in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00020-00004637-00005047 part on brahmic scripts as is the case +BO0MS0kXP7M-00021-00005048-00005258 for syllabaries the units of the writing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00022-00005259-00005386 system may consist of the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00023-00005387-00005600 representations both of syllables and of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00024-00005601-00005854 consonants for scripts of the brahmic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00025-00005855-00006086 family the term Akshara is used for the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00026-00006087-00006535 units abugida as a term in linguistics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00027-00006536-00006760 was proposed by Peter T Daniels in his +BO0MS0kXP7M-00028-00006761-00007153 1990 typology of writing systems abugida +BO0MS0kXP7M-00029-00007154-00007376 is an Ethiopian name for the GS script +BO0MS0kXP7M-00030-00007377-00007577 taken from four letters of that script +BO0MS0kXP7M-00031-00007578-00007844 abugida in much the same way that a VESA +BO0MS0kXP7M-00032-00007845-00008071 dairy is derived from Latin - BCE de +BO0MS0kXP7M-00033-00008072-00008345 abjad is derived from the Arabic a VJ D +BO0MS0kXP7M-00034-00008346-00008560 an alphabet is derived from the names of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00035-00008561-00008696 the two first letters in the Greek +BO0MS0kXP7M-00036-00008697-00009035 alphabet alpha and beta as Daniels used +BO0MS0kXP7M-00037-00009036-00009263 the word an abugida is in contrast with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00038-00009264-00009464 a syllabary where letters with shared +BO0MS0kXP7M-00039-00009465-00009692 consonants or vowels show no particular +BO0MS0kXP7M-00040-00009693-00009908 resemblance to one another and also with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00041-00009909-00010076 an alphabet proper we're independent +BO0MS0kXP7M-00042-00010077-00010249 letters are used to denote both +BO0MS0kXP7M-00043-00010250-00010505 consonants and vowels the term alpha +BO0MS0kXP7M-00044-00010506-00010727 syllabary was suggested for the Indic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00045-00010728-00010985 scripts in 1997 by william bright +BO0MS0kXP7M-00046-00010986-00011188 following south asian linguistic usage +BO0MS0kXP7M-00047-00011189-00011438 to convey the idea that they share +BO0MS0kXP7M-00048-00011439-00011742 features of both alphabet and syllabary +BO0MS0kXP7M-00049-00011743-00011966 abugidas were long considered to be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00050-00011967-00012145 syllabaries or intermediate between +BO0MS0kXP7M-00051-00012146-00012380 syllabaries and alphabets and the term +BO0MS0kXP7M-00052-00012381-00012545 syllabics is retained in the name of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00053-00012546-00012824 canadian aboriginal syllabics other +BO0MS0kXP7M-00054-00012825-00013027 terms that have been used include neo +BO0MS0kXP7M-00055-00013028-00013397 syllabary Fabry or 1959 sudo alphabet +BO0MS0kXP7M-00056-00013397-00013816 holder 1959 semi celebre derringer 1968 +BO0MS0kXP7M-00057-00013818-00014047 a word that has other uses and syllabic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00058-00014048-00014344 alphabet Kuhlman's 1996 this term is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00059-00014345-00014774 also a synonym for syllabary general +BO0MS0kXP7M-00060-00014775-00015319 description the formal definitions given +BO0MS0kXP7M-00061-00015320-00015524 by Daniels and bright for abugida and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00062-00015525-00015713 alpha syllabary differed some writing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00063-00015713-00015916 systems or abugidas but not alpha +BO0MS0kXP7M-00064-00015918-00016075 syllabaries and some are alpha +BO0MS0kXP7M-00065-00016076-00016397 syllabaries but not abugidas and abugida +BO0MS0kXP7M-00066-00016398-00016691 is defined as a type of writing system +BO0MS0kXP7M-00067-00016692-00016871 whose basic characters denotes +BO0MS0kXP7M-00068-00016872-00017102 consonants followed by a particular +BO0MS0kXP7M-00069-00017103-00017330 vowel and in which diacritics denote +BO0MS0kXP7M-00070-00017331-00017825 other vowels this particular vowel is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00071-00017826-00018044 referred to as the inherent or implicit +BO0MS0kXP7M-00072-00018045-00018290 vowel as opposed to the explicit vowels +BO0MS0kXP7M-00073-00018291-00018611 marked by that diacritics and alpha +BO0MS0kXP7M-00074-00018612-00018850 syllabary is defined as a type of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00075-00018851-00019081 writing system in which the vowels are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00076-00019082-00019369 denoted by subsidiary symbols not all of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00077-00019370-00019568 which occur in a linear order with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00078-00019569-00019790 relation to the consonant symbols that +BO0MS0kXP7M-00079-00019791-00019978 is congruent with their temporal order +BO0MS0kXP7M-00080-00019979-00020344 in speech bright did not require that an +BO0MS0kXP7M-00081-00020345-00020564 alphabet explicitly represent all vowels +BO0MS0kXP7M-00082-00020565-00020878 thanks for example of an abugida that is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00083-00020879-00021106 not an alpha syllabary and modern lao is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00084-00021107-00021322 an example of an alpha syllabary that is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00085-00021323-00021536 not an abugida for its vowels are always +BO0MS0kXP7M-00086-00021537-00021947 explicit this description is expressed +BO0MS0kXP7M-00087-00021948-00022219 in terms of an abugida formally an alpha +BO0MS0kXP7M-00088-00022220-00022433 syllabary that is not an abugida can be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00089-00022434-00022625 converted to an abugida by adding a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00090-00022626-00022825 purely formal vowel sound that is never +BO0MS0kXP7M-00091-00022826-00022997 used in declaring that to be the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00092-00022998-00023134 inherent vowel of the letters +BO0MS0kXP7M-00093-00023135-00023380 representing consonants this may +BO0MS0kXP7M-00094-00023381-00023590 formally make the system ambiguous but +BO0MS0kXP7M-00095-00023591-00023905 in practice this is not a problem for +BO0MS0kXP7M-00096-00023906-00024068 them the interpretation with the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00097-00024069-00024262 never-used inherent vowel sound will +BO0MS0kXP7M-00098-00024263-00024527 always be a wrong interpretation note +BO0MS0kXP7M-00099-00024528-00024706 that the actual pronunciation may be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00100-00024707-00024925 complicated by interactions between the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00101-00024926-00025121 sounds apparently written just as the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00102-00025122-00025271 sounds of the letters in the English +BO0MS0kXP7M-00103-00025272-00025490 words one gem and more are affected by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00104-00025491-00025858 neighboring letters the fundamental +BO0MS0kXP7M-00105-00025859-00026062 principles of an abugida applied to +BO0MS0kXP7M-00106-00026063-00026306 words made up of consonant vowel cv +BO0MS0kXP7M-00107-00026307-00026585 syllables the syllables are written as a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00108-00026586-00026833 linear sequences of the units of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00109-00026833-00027070 each syllable is either a letter that +BO0MS0kXP7M-00110-00027070-00027268 represents the sound of a consonant in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00111-00027269-00027445 the inherent vowel or a letter with a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00112-00027445-00027625 modification to indicate the vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00113-00027626-00027846 either by means of diacritics or by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00114-00027847-00028042 changes in the form of the letter itself +BO0MS0kXP7M-00115-00028043-00028357 if all modifications are by diacritics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00116-00028358-00028567 and all diacritics follow the direction +BO0MS0kXP7M-00117-00028568-00028723 of the writing of the letters then the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00118-00028724-00029061 abugida is not an alpha syllabary +BO0MS0kXP7M-00119-00029062-00029329 however most languages have words that +BO0MS0kXP7M-00120-00029330-00029527 are more complicated than a sequence of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00121-00029527-00029893 cv syllables even ignoring tone +BO0MS0kXP7M-00122-00029894-00030160 the first complication is syllables that +BO0MS0kXP7M-00123-00030161-00030487 consists of just a vowel d now in some +BO0MS0kXP7M-00124-00030488-00030718 languages this issue does not arise for +BO0MS0kXP7M-00125-00030719-00030888 every syllable starts with a consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00126-00030889-00031192 this is common in Semitic languages and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00127-00031193-00031447 in languages of mainland SE Asia and for +BO0MS0kXP7M-00128-00031448-00031674 such languages this issue need not arise +BO0MS0kXP7M-00129-00031675-00031975 for some languages a zero consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00130-00031976-00032149 letter is used as though every syllable +BO0MS0kXP7M-00131-00032150-00032377 began with a consonant for other +BO0MS0kXP7M-00132-00032377-00032589 languages each vowel has a separate +BO0MS0kXP7M-00133-00032591-00032755 letter that is used for each syllable +BO0MS0kXP7M-00134-00032756-00032998 consisting of just the vowel these +BO0MS0kXP7M-00135-00032999-00033208 letters are known as independent vowels +BO0MS0kXP7M-00136-00033209-00033397 and are found in most index scripts +BO0MS0kXP7M-00137-00033398-00033655 these letters may be quite different to +BO0MS0kXP7M-00138-00033656-00033859 the corresponding diacritics which by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00139-00033860-00034063 contrast are known as dependent vowels +BO0MS0kXP7M-00140-00034064-00034321 as a result of the spread of writing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00141-00034322-00034546 systems independent vowels may be used +BO0MS0kXP7M-00142-00034547-00034735 to represent syllables beginning with a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00143-00034736-00034930 glottal stop even for non initial +BO0MS0kXP7M-00144-00034931-00035353 syllables the next few complications are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00145-00035354-00035554 sequences of consonants before a vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00146-00035555-00035820 CCV and syllables ending in a consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00147-00035821-00036187 CVC the simplest solution which is not +BO0MS0kXP7M-00148-00036188-00036379 always available is to break with the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00149-00036380-00036583 principle of writing words as a sequence +BO0MS0kXP7M-00150-00036584-00036805 of syllables and use a unit representing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00151-00036806-00037087 just a consonant see this unit may be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00152-00037088-00037267 represented with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00153-00037268-00037612 a modification that explicitly indicates +BO0MS0kXP7M-00154-00037613-00038060 the lack of a vowel Rama a lack of vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00155-00038061-00038275 marking often with ambiguity between no +BO0MS0kXP7M-00156-00038276-00038707 vowel and a default inherent vowel vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00157-00038708-00038926 marking for a shorter neutral vowel such +BO0MS0kXP7M-00158-00038927-00039154 as schwa with ambiguity between no vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00159-00039155-00039504 and that shorter neutral vowel or a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00160-00039505-00039760 visually unrelated letter in a true +BO0MS0kXP7M-00161-00039761-00039979 abugida the lack of distinctive marking +BO0MS0kXP7M-00162-00039980-00040186 may result from the diachronic loss of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00163-00040187-00040402 the inherent vowel eg by syncope and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00164-00040403-00040810 apakah P in Hindi when not handled by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00165-00040811-00041125 decomposition into c plus c v c cv +BO0MS0kXP7M-00166-00041126-00041317 syllables are handled by combining the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00167-00041318-00041608 two consonants in the index scripts the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00168-00041609-00041797 earliest method was simply to arrange +BO0MS0kXP7M-00169-00041798-00041986 them vertically but the two consonants +BO0MS0kXP7M-00170-00041987-00042175 may merge as a conjunct consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00171-00042176-00042376 letters where two or more letters are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00172-00042377-00042550 graphically joined in a ligature or +BO0MS0kXP7M-00173-00042551-00042844 otherwise change their shapes rarely one +BO0MS0kXP7M-00174-00042845-00043027 of the consonants may be replaced by a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00175-00043028-00043282 gemination mark eg the Gurmukhi attic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00176-00043283-00043549 when they are arranged vertically as in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00177-00043550-00043743 Burmese or Khmer they are said to be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00178-00043744-00044080 stacked often there has been a change to +BO0MS0kXP7M-00179-00044081-00044275 writing the two consonants side-by-side +BO0MS0kXP7M-00180-00044276-00044518 in the latter case the fact of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00181-00044519-00044695 combination may be indicated by a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00182-00044696-00044911 diacritic on one of the consonants or a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00183-00044912-00045061 change in the form of one of the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00184-00045062-00045301 consonants eg the half forms of Dave & +BO0MS0kXP7M-00185-00045302-00045568 algorri generally the reading order is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00186-00045569-00045769 top to bottom or the general reading +BO0MS0kXP7M-00187-00045770-00045955 order of the script but sometimes the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00188-00045956-00046238 order is reversed +BO0MS0kXP7M-00189-00046239-00046497 the division of a word into syllables +BO0MS0kXP7M-00190-00046498-00046680 for the purposes of writing does not +BO0MS0kXP7M-00191-00046681-00046878 always accord with the natural phonetics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00192-00046879-00047148 of the language for example brahmic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00193-00047149-00047325 scripts commonly handle a phonetic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00194-00047326-00047781 sequence CVC cv of cv c cv r cv c cv +BO0MS0kXP7M-00195-00047782-00048090 however sometimes phonetic CVC syllables +BO0MS0kXP7M-00196-00048091-00048270 are handled as single units and the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00197-00048271-00048599 final consonant may be represented in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00198-00048600-00048846 much the same way as the second +BO0MS0kXP7M-00199-00048847-00049092 consonant in c cv eg and the Tibetan +BO0MS0kXP7M-00200-00049093-00049365 Khmer and Tai Tam scripts the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00201-00049366-00049536 positioning of the components may be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00202-00049537-00049752 slightly different as in Khmer and Thai +BO0MS0kXP7M-00203-00049753-00050172 fam by a special dependent consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00204-00050173-00050340 sign which may be a smaller or +BO0MS0kXP7M-00205-00050341-00050520 differently placed version of the full +BO0MS0kXP7M-00206-00050521-00050724 consonant letter or may be a distinct +BO0MS0kXP7M-00207-00050725-00050962 sign altogether +BO0MS0kXP7M-00208-00050963-00051283 not at all for example repeated +BO0MS0kXP7M-00209-00051284-00051502 consonants need not be represented home +BO0MS0kXP7M-00210-00051503-00051721 organic nasals may be ignored and in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00211-00051722-00051930 Philippine scripts the syllable final +BO0MS0kXP7M-00212-00051932-00052096 consonant was traditionally never +BO0MS0kXP7M-00213-00052097-00052315 represented more complicated unit +BO0MS0kXP7M-00214-00052316-00052678 structures eg CCRC CVC are handled by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00215-00052679-00053028 combining the various techniques above +BO0MS0kXP7M-00216-00053029-00053632 family specific features there are three +BO0MS0kXP7M-00217-00053633-00053884 principal families of abugidas depending +BO0MS0kXP7M-00218-00053885-00054046 on whether vowels are indicated by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00219-00054047-00054267 modifying consonants by diacritics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00220-00054269-00054741 distortion or orientation the oldest and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00221-00054742-00054954 largest is the brahmic family of India +BO0MS0kXP7M-00222-00054955-00055186 and Southeast Asia in which vowels are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00223-00055187-00055372 marked with diacritics and syllable +BO0MS0kXP7M-00224-00055373-00055566 final consonants when they occur are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00225-00055567-00055807 indicated with ligatures diacritics or +BO0MS0kXP7M-00226-00055808-00056117 with a special vowel cancelling mark in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00227-00056119-00056425 the ethiopic family vowels are marked by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00228-00056426-00056623 modifying the shapes of the consonants +BO0MS0kXP7M-00229-00056624-00056785 and one of the vowel forms serves +BO0MS0kXP7M-00230-00056786-00056947 additionally to indicate final +BO0MS0kXP7M-00231-00056948-00057376 consonants in the cree family vowels are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00232-00057377-00057550 marked by rotating or flipping the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00233-00057551-00057745 consonants and final consonants are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00234-00057746-00057964 indicated with either special diacritics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00235-00057965-00058183 or superscript forms of the main initial +BO0MS0kXP7M-00236-00058184-00058375 consonants tanah of the Maldives has +BO0MS0kXP7M-00237-00058376-00058636 dependent vowels in a 0 vowel sign but +BO0MS0kXP7M-00238-00058637-00059347 no inherent vowel Indic brahmic Indic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00239-00059348-00059569 scripts originated in india and spread +BO0MS0kXP7M-00240-00059570-00059817 to southeast asia all surviving Indic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00241-00059819-00059977 scripts are descendants of the Brahma +BO0MS0kXP7M-00242-00059978-00060202 alphabet today they are used in most +BO0MS0kXP7M-00243-00060203-00060370 languages of South Asia although +BO0MS0kXP7M-00244-00060371-00060589 replaced by perso-arabic in Urdu +BO0MS0kXP7M-00245-00060590-00060808 Kashmiri and some other languages of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00246-00060809-00061045 Pakistan and India mainland Southeast +BO0MS0kXP7M-00247-00061046-00061312 Asia Myanmar Thailand Laos and Cambodia +BO0MS0kXP7M-00248-00061313-00061605 an Indonesian archipelago Javanese +BO0MS0kXP7M-00249-00061607-00061975 Balinese Sundanese etc the primary +BO0MS0kXP7M-00250-00061976-00062164 division is in - north Indic scripts +BO0MS0kXP7M-00251-00062165-00062422 used in northern india nepal tibet in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00252-00062423-00062647 bhutan and southern Indic scripts used +BO0MS0kXP7M-00253-00062648-00062878 in south india sri lanka in southeast +BO0MS0kXP7M-00254-00062879-00063301 asia south Indic letter forms are very +BO0MS0kXP7M-00255-00063302-00063559 rounded north Indic less so the ODF +BO0MS0kXP7M-00256-00063560-00063769 Gomel and lucuma love Nepal script +BO0MS0kXP7M-00257-00063770-00064204 around it most North Indic scripts full +BO0MS0kXP7M-00258-00064204-00064333 letters incorporate a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00259-00064334-00064552 horizontal line at the top with Gujarati +BO0MS0kXP7M-00260-00064553-00064777 and Odia as exceptions South Indic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00261-00064778-00065200 scripts do not index scripts indicate +BO0MS0kXP7M-00262-00065201-00065382 vowels through dependent vowel signs +BO0MS0kXP7M-00263-00065383-00065635 diacritics around the consonants often +BO0MS0kXP7M-00264-00065636-00065800 including a sign that explicitly +BO0MS0kXP7M-00265-00065801-00066052 indicates the lack of a vowel if a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00266-00066053-00066244 consonant has no vowel sign this +BO0MS0kXP7M-00267-00066245-00066493 indicates a default vowel vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00268-00066494-00066724 diacritics may appear above below to the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00269-00066725-00066880 left to the right or around the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00270-00066881-00067282 continent the most widely used index +BO0MS0kXP7M-00271-00067283-00067510 script is dave & algorri shared by hindi +BO0MS0kXP7M-00272-00067511-00067801 Bhojpuri marathi Konkani nepali and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00273-00067802-00068092 often sanskrit a basic letters such as +BO0MS0kXP7M-00274-00068093-00068326 kha in hindi represents a syllable with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00275-00068327-00068548 the default vowel in this case cocaine +BO0MS0kXP7M-00276-00068549-00068845 in some languages including Hindi it +BO0MS0kXP7M-00277-00068846-00069076 becomes a final closing consonant at the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00278-00069077-00069334 end of a word in this case K the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00279-00069335-00069529 inherent vowel may be changed by adding +BO0MS0kXP7M-00280-00069530-00069760 vowel mark diacritics producing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00281-00069761-00070378 syllables such as kiki kuku KK Coco in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00282-00070379-00070630 many of the brahmic scripts a syllable +BO0MS0kXP7M-00283-00070631-00070813 beginning with a cluster is treated as a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00284-00070814-00071017 single character for purposes of vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00285-00071018-00071230 marking so a vowel marker like III +BO0MS0kXP7M-00286-00071231-00071449 falling before the character it modifies +BO0MS0kXP7M-00287-00071450-00071659 may appear several positions before the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00288-00071660-00071947 place where it is pronounced for example +BO0MS0kXP7M-00289-00071948-00072154 the game cricket in Hindi is cricket a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00290-00072155-00072376 cricket the diacritic for AI appears +BO0MS0kXP7M-00291-00072377-00072622 before the consonant cluster K are not +BO0MS0kXP7M-00292-00072623-00072943 before the are a more unusual example is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00293-00072944-00073129 seen in the Batak alphabet here the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00294-00073130-00073321 syllable beam is written ba ma +BO0MS0kXP7M-00295-00073322-00073627 Barama that is the vowel diacritics and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00296-00073628-00073771 ver ama are both written after the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00297-00073772-00074143 consonants for the whole syllable in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00298-00074144-00074323 many of you Jada's there is also a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00299-00074324-00074539 diacritic to suppress the inherent vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00300-00074540-00074818 yielding the bear consonant in Dave & +BO0MS0kXP7M-00301-00074819-00075076 algorri K is K and L is al this is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00302-00075077-00075253 called the Rama or howl anthem in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00303-00075254-00075448 Sanskrit it may be used to form +BO0MS0kXP7M-00304-00075449-00075667 consonant clusters or to indicate that a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00305-00075668-00075856 consonant occurs at the end of a word +BO0MS0kXP7M-00306-00075857-00076132 thus in Sanskrit a default vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00307-00076133-00076336 consonant such as Khan does not take on +BO0MS0kXP7M-00308-00076337-00076648 a final consonant sound instead it keeps +BO0MS0kXP7M-00309-00076649-00076864 its vowel for writing two consonants +BO0MS0kXP7M-00310-00076865-00077068 without a vowel in between instead of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00311-00077069-00077281 using diacritics on the first consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00312-00077282-00077482 to remove its vowel another popular +BO0MS0kXP7M-00313-00077483-00077690 method of special conjunct forms +BO0MS0kXP7M-00314-00077691-00077897 used in which two or more consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00315-00077898-00078056 characters are merged to express a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00316-00078057-00078302 cluster such as Dave & algorri clock a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00317-00078303-00078539 la note that some fonts display this as +BO0MS0kXP7M-00318-00078540-00078743 K followed by length rather than forming +BO0MS0kXP7M-00319-00078744-00079052 a conjunct this expedient is used by is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00320-00079053-00079313 CII and South Asian scripts of Unicode +BO0MS0kXP7M-00321-00079314-00079523 thus a closed syllable such as Kao +BO0MS0kXP7M-00322-00079524-00079949 requires to act chars to write the wrong +BO0MS0kXP7M-00323-00079950-00080138 script used for the lecture language +BO0MS0kXP7M-00324-00080139-00080330 goes further than other indica bougie +BO0MS0kXP7M-00325-00080331-00080516 T's in that a single Akshara can +BO0MS0kXP7M-00326-00080517-00080744 represent a closed syllable not only the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00327-00080745-00080930 vowel but any final consonant is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00328-00080931-00081242 indicated by a diacritic for example the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00329-00081243-00081404 syllable sok would be written as +BO0MS0kXP7M-00330-00081405-00081602 something like s here with a nun during +BO0MS0kXP7M-00331-00081603-00081800 representing o and an over cross +BO0MS0kXP7M-00332-00081801-00082039 representing the diacritic for final k +BO0MS0kXP7M-00333-00082040-00082313 most other indica bougie dues can only +BO0MS0kXP7M-00334-00082314-00082526 indicate a very limited set of final +BO0MS0kXP7M-00335-00082527-00082820 consonants with diacritics such as or r +BO0MS0kXP7M-00336-00082821-00083237 if they can indicate any at all Anthea +BO0MS0kXP7M-00337-00083238-00083753 think in Ethiopic where the term abugida +BO0MS0kXP7M-00338-00083754-00083945 originates the diacritics have been +BO0MS0kXP7M-00339-00083946-00084113 fused to the consonants to the point +BO0MS0kXP7M-00340-00084114-00084221 that they must be considered +BO0MS0kXP7M-00341-00084222-00084460 modifications of the form of the letters +BO0MS0kXP7M-00342-00084461-00084646 children learn each modification +BO0MS0kXP7M-00343-00084647-00084899 separately as in a syllabary nonetheless +BO0MS0kXP7M-00344-00084900-00085094 the graphic similarities between +BO0MS0kXP7M-00345-00085095-00085304 syllables with the same consonant is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00346-00085305-00085502 readily apparent unlike the case in a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00347-00085503-00085928 true syllabary though now an abugida the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00348-00085929-00086243 j easy script until the advent of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00349-00086244-00086762 Christianity ca ad 350 had originally +BO0MS0kXP7M-00350-00086763-00086957 been what would now be termed an abjad +BO0MS0kXP7M-00351-00086958-00087419 in the j easy abugida or fidel the base +BO0MS0kXP7M-00352-00087420-00087632 form of the letter also known as Fidel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00353-00087633-00088001 may be altered for example hop base form +BO0MS0kXP7M-00354-00088002-00088223 foo with the right-side diacritic that +BO0MS0kXP7M-00355-00088224-00088430 doesn't alter the letter high with a sub +BO0MS0kXP7M-00356-00088431-00088640 diacritic that compresses the consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00357-00088641-00088904 so it is the same height or h where the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00358-00088905-00089081 letter is modified with the kink in the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00359-00089082-00089734 left arm canadian aboriginal syllabics +BO0MS0kXP7M-00360-00089735-00090007 in the family known as canadian +BO0MS0kXP7M-00361-00090008-00090209 aboriginal syllabics which was inspired +BO0MS0kXP7M-00362-00090210-00090419 by the dave & algorri script of india +BO0MS0kXP7M-00363-00090420-00090623 vowels are indicated by changing the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00364-00090624-00090869 orientation of the syllable gram each +BO0MS0kXP7M-00365-00090870-00091126 vowel has a consistent orientation for +BO0MS0kXP7M-00366-00091127-00091573 example Inuktitut pi kou pomp T to Tom +BO0MS0kXP7M-00367-00091574-00091811 although there is a vowel inherent in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00368-00091812-00092051 each all rotations have equal status and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00369-00092052-00092315 none can be identified as basic their +BO0MS0kXP7M-00370-00092316-00092498 consonants are indicated either by +BO0MS0kXP7M-00371-00092499-00092732 separate diacritics or by superscript +BO0MS0kXP7M-00372-00092733-00092915 versions of the Akshara s' there is no +BO0MS0kXP7M-00373-00092916-00093698 vowel killer mark borderline cases vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00374-00093699-00094430 abjads continental scripts abjads are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00375-00094431-00094622 normally written without indication of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00376-00094623-00094901 many vowels however in some contexts +BO0MS0kXP7M-00377-00094902-00095090 like teaching materials or scriptures +BO0MS0kXP7M-00378-00095091-00095303 arabic and hebrew are written with full +BO0MS0kXP7M-00379-00095304-00095549 indication of vowels via diacritic marks +BO0MS0kXP7M-00380-00095550-00095816 haricot nikodem effectively alpha +BO0MS0kXP7M-00381-00095817-00096095 syllabaries the brahmic and Ethiopic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00382-00096096-00096266 families are thought to have originated +BO0MS0kXP7M-00383-00096267-00096479 from the semitic abjads by the addition +BO0MS0kXP7M-00384-00096480-00096893 of vowel marks the Arabic scripts used +BO0MS0kXP7M-00385-00096894-00097103 for kurdish in Iraq and for Weger in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00386-00097104-00097337 Shin Jang China as well as the Hebrew +BO0MS0kXP7M-00387-00097338-00097544 script of Yiddish are fully vowel but +BO0MS0kXP7M-00388-00097545-00097712 because the vowels are written with full +BO0MS0kXP7M-00389-00097713-00097910 letters rather than diacritics with the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00390-00097911-00098096 exception of distinguishing between a +BO0MS0kXP7M-00391-00098097-00098315 and O in the latter and there are no +BO0MS0kXP7M-00392-00098316-00098494 inherent vowels these are considered +BO0MS0kXP7M-00393-00098495-00099218 alphabets not abugidas thanks ba the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00394-00099219-00099446 imperial mongol script called ba +BO0MS0kXP7M-00395-00099447-00099668 was derived from the Tibetan abugida but +BO0MS0kXP7M-00396-00099669-00099826 all vowels are written in line rather +BO0MS0kXP7M-00397-00099827-00100109 than as diacritics however it retains +BO0MS0kXP7M-00398-00100110-00100322 the features of having an inherent vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00399-00100323-00100523 and having distinct initial vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00400-00100524-00101222 letters haha the hammam is a non +BO0MS0kXP7M-00401-00101223-00101447 segmental script that indicates syllable +BO0MS0kXP7M-00402-00101448-00101675 on sets and rhymes such as consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00403-00101676-00101834 clusters and vowels with final +BO0MS0kXP7M-00404-00101835-00102128 consonants thus it is not segmental and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00405-00102129-00102362 cannot be considered an abugida however +BO0MS0kXP7M-00406-00102363-00102572 it superficially resembles an abugida +BO0MS0kXP7M-00407-00102573-00102757 with the roles of consonant and vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00408-00102758-00103046 reversed most syllables are written with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00409-00103047-00103103 two +BO0MS0kXP7M-00410-00103104-00103331 in the order romanza typically vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00411-00103332-00103469 consonant even though they are +BO0MS0kXP7M-00412-00103470-00103673 pronounced as onset rhyme consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00413-00103674-00103871 vowel rather like the position of the I +BO0MS0kXP7M-00414-00103872-00104069 vowel in Dave & algorri which is written +BO0MS0kXP7M-00415-00104070-00104339 before the consonant haha is also +BO0MS0kXP7M-00416-00104340-00104549 unusual in that while an inherent rhyme +BO0MS0kXP7M-00417-00104550-00104789 Oh with mid-tone is unwritten it also +BO0MS0kXP7M-00418-00104790-00105119 has an inherent onset K for the syllable +BO0MS0kXP7M-00419-00105120-00105353 Co which requires one or the other of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00420-00105354-00105569 the inherent sounds to be overt it is o +BO0MS0kXP7M-00421-00105570-00105824 that is written thus it is the rime +BO0MS0kXP7M-00422-00105825-00106247 vowel that is basic to the system maroa +BO0MS0kXP7M-00423-00106248-00106708 dink it is difficult to draw a dividing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00424-00106709-00106909 line between abugidas and other +BO0MS0kXP7M-00425-00106910-00107216 segmental scripts for example the Murrow +BO0MS0kXP7M-00426-00107217-00107434 attic script of ancient Sudan did not +BO0MS0kXP7M-00427-00107435-00107657 indicate an inherent on one symbol stood +BO0MS0kXP7M-00428-00107658-00107873 for both m and MA for example and is +BO0MS0kXP7M-00429-00107874-00108044 thus similar to brahmic family of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00430-00108045-00108338 abugidas however the other vowels were +BO0MS0kXP7M-00431-00108339-00108508 indicated with full letters not +BO0MS0kXP7M-00432-00108509-00108764 diacritics or modification so the system +BO0MS0kXP7M-00433-00108765-00108950 was essentially an alphabet that did not +BO0MS0kXP7M-00434-00108951-00109311 bother to write the most common vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00435-00109313-00109829 shorthand several systems of shorthand +BO0MS0kXP7M-00436-00109830-00110042 used diacritics for vowels but they do +BO0MS0kXP7M-00437-00110043-00110231 not have an inherent vowel and are thus +BO0MS0kXP7M-00438-00110232-00110441 more similar to thana and kurdish script +BO0MS0kXP7M-00439-00110442-00110702 than to the brahmic script the Gables +BO0MS0kXP7M-00440-00110703-00110870 Berger shorthand system and its +BO0MS0kXP7M-00441-00110871-00111053 derivatives modify the following +BO0MS0kXP7M-00442-00111054-00111296 consonant to represent vowels the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00443-00111297-00111470 pollard script which was based on +BO0MS0kXP7M-00444-00111471-00111704 shorthand also uses diacritics for +BO0MS0kXP7M-00445-00111705-00111863 vowels the placements of the vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00446-00111864-00112096 relative to the consonant indicates tone +BO0MS0kXP7M-00447-00112097-00112364 Pitman shorthand uses straight strokes +BO0MS0kXP7M-00448-00112365-00112558 and quarter-circle marks in different +BO0MS0kXP7M-00449-00112559-00112832 orientations as the principal alphabet +BO0MS0kXP7M-00450-00112833-00113110 of consonants vowels are shown as light +BO0MS0kXP7M-00451-00113111-00113348 and heavy dots dashes and other marks in +BO0MS0kXP7M-00452-00113349-00113528 one of three possible positions to +BO0MS0kXP7M-00453-00113529-00113722 indicate the various vowel sounds +BO0MS0kXP7M-00454-00113723-00114023 however to increase writing speed Pitman +BO0MS0kXP7M-00455-00114024-00114401 has rules for vowel indication using the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00456-00114402-00114610 positioning or choice of consonant signs +BO0MS0kXP7M-00457-00114611-00114788 so that writing vowel marks can be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00458-00114789-00115141 dispensed with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00459-00115142-00115703 development as the term alpha syllabary +BO0MS0kXP7M-00460-00115704-00115940 suggests abugidas have been considered +BO0MS0kXP7M-00461-00115941-00116138 an intermediate step between alphabets +BO0MS0kXP7M-00462-00116139-00116485 and syllabaries historically abugidas of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00463-00116486-00116672 here to have evolved from abjads vowel +BO0MS0kXP7M-00464-00116673-00116927 it's alphabets they contrast with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00465-00116928-00117116 syllabaries where there is a distinct +BO0MS0kXP7M-00466-00117117-00117317 symbol for each syllable or consonant +BO0MS0kXP7M-00467-00117318-00117494 vowel combination and where these have +BO0MS0kXP7M-00468-00117495-00117713 no systematic similarity to each other +BO0MS0kXP7M-00469-00117714-00117908 and typically develop directly from +BO0MS0kXP7M-00470-00117908-00118204 longer graphic script compare the Dave & +BO0MS0kXP7M-00471-00118205-00118388 algorri examples above two sets of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00472-00118389-00118613 syllables in the Japanese hiragana Silla +BO0MS0kXP7M-00473-00118614-00118994 very Kaka ki ki ku ku ke ke ko ko have +BO0MS0kXP7M-00474-00118995-00119219 nothing in common to indicate K while +BO0MS0kXP7M-00475-00119220-00119564 Rara reread Ruru reread ro ro have +BO0MS0kXP7M-00476-00119565-00119771 neither anything in common for our nor +BO0MS0kXP7M-00477-00119772-00119939 anything to indicate that they have the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00478-00119940-00120383 same vowels as the K set most Indian and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00479-00120383-00120586 Indo Chinese abugidas appear to have +BO0MS0kXP7M-00480-00120588-00120779 first been developed from abjads with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00481-00120780-00121022 the crusty and brawny scripts the abjad +BO0MS0kXP7M-00482-00121023-00121234 in question is usually considered to be +BO0MS0kXP7M-00483-00121235-00121346 the aramaic one +BO0MS0kXP7M-00484-00121347-00121523 but while the link between aramaic and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00485-00121524-00121759 karate is more or less undisputed this +BO0MS0kXP7M-00486-00121760-00122048 is not the case with Brahmi the crosstie +BO0MS0kXP7M-00487-00122049-00122288 family does not survive today but Brahmi +BO0MS0kXP7M-00488-00122289-00122576 s descendants include most of the modern +BO0MS0kXP7M-00489-00122577-00122939 scripts of South and Southeast Asia J +BO0MS0kXP7M-00490-00122940-00123254 easy derived from a different abjad the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00491-00123255-00123466 sabaeans script of yemen the advent of +BO0MS0kXP7M-00492-00123467-00123650 vowels coincided with the introduction +BO0MS0kXP7M-00493-00123651-00123956 of Christianity about AD 350 the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00494-00123957-00124178 Ethiopic script is the elaboration of an +BO0MS0kXP7M-00495-00124179-00124370 abjad +BO0MS0kXP7M-00496-00124371-00124622 the Cree family was invented with full +BO0MS0kXP7M-00497-00124623-00125015 knowledge of the Devanagari system the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00498-00125016-00125195 Moreau edicts script was developed from +BO0MS0kXP7M-00499-00125196-00125363 Egyptian hieroglyphs within which 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+BO0MS0kXP7M-00541-00147680-00148529 Saurashtra so am both Sundanese silo +BO0MS0kXP7M-00542-00148530-00148919 team a Greek sylheti tag van with +BO0MS0kXP7M-00543-00148920-00149199 palawan languages +BO0MS0kXP7M-00544-00149200-00149865 Tyler ty damn tight tab and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00545-00149866-00151010 northern type Chakri Tamil Telugu tie +BO0MS0kXP7M-00546-00151011-00151713 Tibetan tingle re Sanskrit Turku de +BO0MS0kXP7M-00547-00151714-00152343 mightily toe carryin VAD aloo - Tamil +BO0MS0kXP7M-00548-00152344-00152955 Malayalam the Navas r-squared Jeong +BO0MS0kXP7M-00549-00152956-00153393 Jeong scripts crosstie extinct from the +BO0MS0kXP7M-00550-00153394-00153873 3rd century BC Diez at the optic from +BO0MS0kXP7M-00551-00153874-00154163 the 4th century AD +BO0MS0kXP7M-00552-00154164-00154686 canadian aboriginal syllabics pre Ojibwe +BO0MS0kXP7M-00553-00154687-00155322 syllabics Inuktitut syllabics Blackfoot +BO0MS0kXP7M-00554-00155323-00156072 syllabics carrier syllabics Donna +BO0MS0kXP7M-00555-00156073-00156726 Pollard script Pitman shorthand tengwar +BO0MS0kXP7M-00556-00156727-00157125 fictional I have a Sabbath iron +BO0MS0kXP7M-00557-00157126-00157950 fictional abugida like scripts muriatic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00558-00157951-00158143 extinct an alphabet with an inherent +BO0MS0kXP7M-00559-00158144-00159399 vowel references external links syllabic +BO0MS0kXP7M-00560-00159400-00159648 alphabets on the glutes list of abugidas +BO0MS0kXP7M-00561-00159649-00159873 including examples of various writing +BO0MS0kXP7M-00562-00159874-00160321 systems alphabets list of abugidas and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00563-00160322-00160732 other scripts in Spanish comparing Dave +BO0MS0kXP7M-00564-00160733-00160974 & algorri with Burmese Khmer Thai and +BO0MS0kXP7M-00565-00160975-00161284 Tai Tam scripts +BOv7enJqdC0-00000-00000003-00000224 for the last few months the world has +BOv7enJqdC0-00001-00000225-00000440 provided nothing but darkness and +BOv7enJqdC0-00002-00000441-00000716 depressing news I don't know about you +BOv7enJqdC0-00003-00000717-00000979 but I'm getting a little tired of +BOv7enJqdC0-00004-00000980-00001291 talking about deadly viruses horrifying +BOv7enJqdC0-00005-00001292-00001562 economic collapse police brutality +BOv7enJqdC0-00006-00001563-00001964 impending dystopias murder Hornets but I +BOv7enJqdC0-00007-00001964-00002218 have been talking about it and the +BOv7enJqdC0-00008-00002219-00002390 inevitable theme that's been running +BOv7enJqdC0-00009-00002391-00002567 through a lot of our recent videos has +BOv7enJqdC0-00010-00002568-00002802 been negativity and criticism from +BOv7enJqdC0-00011-00002803-00003098 power-hungry politicians and destructive +BOv7enJqdC0-00012-00003099-00003418 lockdowns to out-of-control police I +BOv7enJqdC0-00013-00003419-00003704 realized that I've had a lot to say +BOv7enJqdC0-00014-00003704-00003884 about what's going wrong with the world +BOv7enJqdC0-00015-00003885-00004111 and yet I've spent very little time +BOv7enJqdC0-00016-00004112-00004342 talking about how to make it better so +BOv7enJqdC0-00017-00004343-00004588 at the risk of missing the mark with +BOv7enJqdC0-00018-00004589-00004745 something completely out of sync with +BOv7enJqdC0-00019-00004746-00004997 the news cycle I want to take a break +BOv7enJqdC0-00020-00004998-00005206 from the carnage of reality to talk +BOv7enJqdC0-00021-00005207-00005501 about something positive for a change my +BOv7enJqdC0-00022-00005502-00005747 lifelong love for Superman as a +BOv7enJqdC0-00023-00005748-00005954 character what's made the Man of Steel +BOv7enJqdC0-00024-00005955-00006277 an inspiring hero and symbol for over 80 +BOv7enJqdC0-00025-00006278-00006571 years and why it's time to stand up for +BOv7enJqdC0-00026-00006572-00006784 truth justice and the American Way +BOv7enJqdC0-00027-00006786-00007114 now more than ever this is a video I've +BOv7enJqdC0-00028-00007115-00007325 wanted to write for a while and now with +BOv7enJqdC0-00029-00007326-00007520 the Zack Snyder cut of Justice League in +BOv7enJqdC0-00030-00007520-00007567 the works +BOv7enJqdC0-00031-00007568-00007823 rumors of henry cavill returning to the +BOv7enJqdC0-00032-00007823-00008170 DC EU and let's be honest not many other +BOv7enJqdC0-00033-00008172-00008408 movies coming out I think the time is +BOv7enJqdC0-00034-00008409-00008696 finally right before we really get into +BOv7enJqdC0-00035-00008697-00008878 this you should know that they're going +BOv7enJqdC0-00036-00008879-00009103 to be all kinds of spoilers for a bunch +BOv7enJqdC0-00037-00009104-00009377 of TV shows movies and comic books going +BOv7enJqdC0-00038-00009378-00009674 all the way back to the 1930s you should +BOv7enJqdC0-00039-00009675-00009914 also know that this is going to be way +BOv7enJqdC0-00040-00009915-00010171 less of a history of Superman video and +BOv7enJqdC0-00041-00010172-00010442 more of a love letter to some of my +BOv7enJqdC0-00042-00010443-00010628 favorite incarnations of the character +BOv7enJqdC0-00043-00010629-00010874 and the values and personality traits +BOv7enJqdC0-00044-00010875-00011087 that have made him an enduring figure in +BOv7enJqdC0-00045-00011088-00011396 global pop culture there's a lot to +BOv7enJqdC0-00046-00011397-00011635 cover so suit up hit that subscribe +BOv7enJqdC0-00047-00011636-00011842 button and join me for this heroic +BOv7enJqdC0-00048-00011843-00012199 edition of out of frame since Jerry +BOv7enJqdC0-00049-00012200-00012395 Siegel and Joe Shuster first started +BOv7enJqdC0-00050-00012396-00012706 kicking around the idea in 1933 Superman +BOv7enJqdC0-00051-00012707-00012905 has gone through a ton of different +BOv7enJqdC0-00052-00012906-00013250 iterations but we all know the mythology +BOv7enJqdC0-00053-00013251-00013321 that stuck +BOv7enJqdC0-00054-00013322-00013912 doomed planet desperate scientists last +BOv7enJqdC0-00055-00013913-00014076 hope +BOv7enJqdC0-00056-00014077-00014437 kindly couple +BOv7enJqdC0-00057-00014438-00014737 [Music] +BOv7enJqdC0-00058-00014738-00015212 Superman the last child of a dying +BOv7enJqdC0-00059-00015213-00015419 planet is placed in a rocket ship and +BOv7enJqdC0-00060-00015419-00015665 sent to earth he's found by two +BOv7enJqdC0-00061-00015666-00015988 wonderful adoptive parents Jonathan and +BOv7enJqdC0-00062-00015990-00016202 Martha Kent they named him Clark +BOv7enJqdC0-00063-00016203-00016463 and raised him as their own son on an +BOv7enJqdC0-00064-00016464-00016706 idyllic farm in Smallville Kansas +BOv7enJqdC0-00065-00016707-00016952 Clark Kent grows up to be a reporter at +BOv7enJqdC0-00066-00016953-00017219 The Daily Planet in the thriving city of +BOv7enJqdC0-00067-00017220-00017582 Metropolis and he's also I stood on a +BOv7enJqdC0-00068-00017583-00017869 speeding bullet more powerful than a +BOv7enJqdC0-00069-00017870-00018182 locomotive able to leap tall buildings +BOv7enJqdC0-00070-00018183-00018668 at a single bound up on the sky it's a +BOv7enJqdC0-00071-00018669-00018805 bird it's a plane +BOv7enJqdC0-00072-00018806-00019100 Superman over the years there have been +BOv7enJqdC0-00073-00019101-00019367 countless variations reinterpretations +BOv7enJqdC0-00074-00019368-00019574 and alternate takes on the +BOv7enJqdC0-00075-00019575-00019811 characterizations of both Clark Kent and +BOv7enJqdC0-00076-00019812-00020096 Superman produced by dozens of different +BOv7enJqdC0-00077-00020097-00020378 writers all trying to put their own spin +BOv7enJqdC0-00078-00020379-00020633 on the universe this is one of the +BOv7enJqdC0-00079-00020634-00020969 greatest and yet also worst aspects of +BOv7enJqdC0-00080-00020970-00021250 comics as an art form on the one hand a +BOv7enJqdC0-00081-00021251-00021509 single character can span multiple eras +BOv7enJqdC0-00082-00021510-00021755 and generations and sometimes brilliant +BOv7enJqdC0-00083-00021756-00021944 writers get to work with incredible +BOv7enJqdC0-00084-00021945-00022208 artists to create something iconic and +BOv7enJqdC0-00085-00022209-00022475 memorable on the other hand with so many +BOv7enJqdC0-00086-00022476-00022709 different creators all participating in +BOv7enJqdC0-00087-00022710-00022978 a kind of writers relay race a ton of +BOv7enJqdC0-00088-00022979-00023192 plot holes and narrative conflicts get +BOv7enJqdC0-00089-00023193-00023516 built up over time and as a result comic +BOv7enJqdC0-00090-00023517-00023741 storylines periodically have to be reset +BOv7enJqdC0-00091-00023742-00024002 with big event comics like crisis on +BOv7enJqdC0-00092-00024003-00024247 Infinite Earths or hard reboots like +BOv7enJqdC0-00093-00024248-00024665 DC's new 52 or rebirth there's really no +BOv7enJqdC0-00094-00024666-00024869 way around it but it makes it tough for +BOv7enJqdC0-00095-00024870-00025075 people who aren't regular readers to +BOv7enJqdC0-00096-00025076-00025319 keep up it would take hours for me to +BOv7enJqdC0-00097-00025320-00025508 even come close to explaining the +BOv7enJqdC0-00098-00025509-00025702 decade's worth of story lines and +BOv7enJqdC0-00099-00025703-00025996 changes Superman has gone through so I'm +BOv7enJqdC0-00100-00025997-00026312 not going to do that instead I'm going +BOv7enJqdC0-00101-00026313-00026570 to focus on a few specific stories and +BOv7enJqdC0-00102-00026570-00026819 scenes that I think represent the best +BOv7enJqdC0-00103-00026820-00027098 of who Superman is and why he's +BOv7enJqdC0-00104-00027099-00027419 important there's a lot to unpack here +BOv7enJqdC0-00105-00027420-00027689 but we need to start with a little bit +BOv7enJqdC0-00106-00027689-00027830 of psychology and +BOv7enJqdC0-00107-00027831-00028136 character analysis there are so many +BOv7enJqdC0-00108-00028137-00028316 ways to understand the nature of this +BOv7enJqdC0-00109-00028317-00028586 character and its role in our culture a +BOv7enJqdC0-00110-00028587-00028868 lot of people possibly including his own +BOv7enJqdC0-00111-00028869-00029168 creators think of Superman as little +BOv7enJqdC0-00112-00029169-00029383 more than an adolescent power fantasy +BOv7enJqdC0-00113-00029385-00029645 the idea of a power fantasy is that the +BOv7enJqdC0-00114-00029645-00029855 protagonist of a story acts as a +BOv7enJqdC0-00115-00029856-00030104 surrogate for the reader allowing them +BOv7enJqdC0-00116-00030105-00030299 to imagine themselves asserting +BOv7enJqdC0-00117-00030300-00030545 dominance over situations that they +BOv7enJqdC0-00118-00030545-00030764 would otherwise be incapable of dealing +BOv7enJqdC0-00119-00030764-00031151 with in real life and I get it even the +BOv7enJqdC0-00120-00031152-00031424 name Superman is a translation of +BOv7enJqdC0-00121-00031425-00031712 Friedrich Nietzsche's ubermensch concept +BOv7enJqdC0-00122-00031713-00032050 from his 1883 book also sprach +BOv7enJqdC0-00123-00032051-00032327 zarathustra in the book nietzsche +BOv7enJqdC0-00124-00032327-00032495 presented the ubermensch +BOv7enJqdC0-00125-00032495-00032822 as a man who created new values born +BOv7enJqdC0-00126-00032823-00033107 from love of life in defiance of +BOv7enJqdC0-00127-00033108-00033455 nihilism in a world where God is dead +BOv7enJqdC0-00128-00033456-00033773 under this conception the ubermensch or +BOv7enJqdC0-00129-00033774-00034067 superman creates meaning from +BOv7enJqdC0-00130-00034068-00034139 nothingness +BOv7enJqdC0-00131-00034140-00034487 it's an aspirational idea and something +BOv7enJqdC0-00132-00034488-00034793 for all people to achieve unfortunately +BOv7enJqdC0-00133-00034794-00035009 the term came to be associated with +BOv7enJqdC0-00134-00035010-00035294 Hitler and the Nazis who arrogantly +BOv7enJqdC0-00135-00035295-00035498 believed that the ubermensch was +BOv7enJqdC0-00136-00035499-00035635 something that could be attained by +BOv7enJqdC0-00137-00035636-00036053 eugenics and racial purity Nietzsche did +BOv7enJqdC0-00138-00036054-00036293 not agree with that by the way but when +BOv7enJqdC0-00139-00036294-00036503 Siegel and Shuster who were both Jewish +BOv7enJqdC0-00140-00036504-00036743 kids from Cleveland started working on +BOv7enJqdC0-00141-00036744-00036923 the first incarnations of the character +BOv7enJqdC0-00142-00036924-00037231 Superman was a villain with psychic +BOv7enJqdC0-00143-00037232-00037496 mind-control powers he looked more like +BOv7enJqdC0-00144-00037497-00037730 Lex Luthor than the hero we think of +BOv7enJqdC0-00145-00037731-00038027 today instead of a power fantasy he was +BOv7enJqdC0-00146-00038028-00038342 more like a will to power nightmare but +BOv7enJqdC0-00147-00038343-00038594 fortunately for all of us that version +BOv7enJqdC0-00148-00038595-00038861 didn't pan out and they quickly rebooted +BOv7enJqdC0-00149-00038862-00039068 their character as a physically powerful +BOv7enJqdC0-00150-00039069-00039338 hero Siegel and Shuster pitched stories +BOv7enJqdC0-00151-00039339-00039527 and comics to publishers for several +BOv7enJqdC0-00152-00039528-00039773 years until one of their strips caught +BOv7enJqdC0-00153-00039774-00040112 the attention of Jack Leibowitz in 1938 +BOv7enJqdC0-00154-00040113-00040232 Jack +BOv7enJqdC0-00155-00040233-00040490 along with Harry donenfeld co-owned and +BOv7enJqdC0-00156-00040491-00040804 published Detective Comics Incorporated +BOv7enJqdC0-00157-00040805-00041017 at the time they were looking to start a +BOv7enJqdC0-00158-00041018-00041268 new magazine called Action Comics and +BOv7enJqdC0-00159-00041269-00041539 Superman turned out to be the perfect +BOv7enJqdC0-00160-00041540-00041796 fit Siegel and Shuster sold their +BOv7enJqdC0-00161-00041797-00042079 copyright to the character to DC and the +BOv7enJqdC0-00162-00042080-00042183 rest is history +BOv7enJqdC0-00163-00042184-00042489 now in the early days it might be fair +BOv7enJqdC0-00164-00042490-00042721 to think of Superman as just being about +BOv7enJqdC0-00165-00042722-00042895 power and giving kids away to +BOv7enJqdC0-00166-00042896-00043155 vicariously assert control over their +BOv7enJqdC0-00167-00043156-00043420 world back then Superman was stronger +BOv7enJqdC0-00168-00043421-00043686 than ordinary people but not at all like +BOv7enJqdC0-00169-00043687-00043911 we think of him today he couldn't even +BOv7enJqdC0-00170-00043912-00044176 fly he mostly stood up to bullies and +BOv7enJqdC0-00171-00044177-00044352 bad guys by punching them in the face +BOv7enJqdC0-00172-00044353-00044577 but over time +BOv7enJqdC0-00173-00044578-00044796 writers gave Superman more and more +BOv7enJqdC0-00174-00044797-00045073 abilities first he could only run and +BOv7enJqdC0-00175-00045074-00045376 jump then he could fly at the beginning +BOv7enJqdC0-00176-00045377-00045645 he could lift a car or a truck then a +BOv7enJqdC0-00177-00045646-00045985 tank then an airplane eventually he was +BOv7enJqdC0-00178-00045986-00046155 strong enough to punch a planet out of +BOv7enJqdC0-00179-00046156-00046480 orbit he gained new powers regeneration +BOv7enJqdC0-00180-00046481-00046843 he telescopic microscopic and x-ray +BOv7enJqdC0-00181-00046844-00047143 vision freezing hurricane-force breath +BOv7enJqdC0-00182-00047144-00047499 also fire breath for some reason super +BOv7enJqdC0-00183-00047500-00047824 hearing super intelligence and memory at +BOv7enJqdC0-00184-00047825-00048058 one point mind-reading and telekinesis +BOv7enJqdC0-00185-00048059-00048376 super ventriloquism not all of these +BOv7enJqdC0-00186-00048377-00048664 stuck but between the 1940s and the +BOv7enJqdC0-00187-00048665-00049002 1980s Superman went from having powers +BOv7enJqdC0-00188-00049003-00049230 and abilities far beyond that of mortal +BOv7enJqdC0-00189-00049231-00049468 men to one of the most all-powerful +BOv7enJqdC0-00190-00049469-00049786 characters ever created some artists and +BOv7enJqdC0-00191-00049787-00049977 writers even started deliberately using +BOv7enJqdC0-00192-00049978-00050193 religious symbolism that would invite +BOv7enJqdC0-00193-00050194-00050485 comparisons between Superman and Jesus +BOv7enJqdC0-00194-00050486-00050824 he's also been used as propaganda during +BOv7enJqdC0-00195-00050825-00051073 World War two Superman fought the Nazis +BOv7enJqdC0-00196-00051074-00051416 and the Japanese and after the war in +BOv7enJqdC0-00197-00051417-00051811 1946 Superman took on the KKK in his +BOv7enJqdC0-00198-00051812-00052065 radio show his whole role in pop culture +BOv7enJqdC0-00199-00052066-00052399 was to easily beat up people that the +BOv7enJqdC0-00200-00052400-00052743 rest of us couldn't so obviously just a +BOv7enJqdC0-00201-00052744-00053130 power fantasy right well no I don't +BOv7enJqdC0-00202-00053132-00053382 actually think so you see back when +BOv7enJqdC0-00203-00053383-00053575 Superman was little more than a +BOv7enJqdC0-00204-00053576-00053793 strongman socking bad guys on the jaw +BOv7enJqdC0-00205-00053794-00054081 every comic book hero was basically +BOv7enJqdC0-00206-00054082-00054165 doing the same +BOv7enJqdC0-00207-00054166-00054392 thing if he was a power fantasy then +BOv7enJqdC0-00208-00054394-00054621 they all were but it's certainly not +BOv7enJqdC0-00209-00054622-00054825 what made him a unique or great +BOv7enJqdC0-00210-00054826-00055125 character nor is it why he survived as a +BOv7enJqdC0-00211-00055126-00055371 singular icon of pop culture for all +BOv7enJqdC0-00212-00055372-00055641 these years what's actually special +BOv7enJqdC0-00213-00055641-00055866 about Superman is not all of his +BOv7enJqdC0-00214-00055866-00056163 fantastically absurd superpowers or his +BOv7enJqdC0-00215-00056164-00056421 alien heritage it's the fact that +BOv7enJqdC0-00216-00056422-00056673 underneath all of that he's just a +BOv7enJqdC0-00217-00056674-00056799 humble farm boy +BOv7enJqdC0-00218-00056800-00057114 from Kansas what makes Superman great is +BOv7enJqdC0-00219-00057115-00057432 his humanity and the constant choice he +BOv7enJqdC0-00220-00057433-00057675 makes not to use his powers to force +BOv7enJqdC0-00221-00057676-00057933 people to do what he wants and dominate +BOv7enJqdC0-00222-00057934-00058290 the world the magic of Superman is Clark +BOv7enJqdC0-00223-00058291-00058350 Kent +BOv7enJqdC0-00224-00058351-00058647 as clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson +BOv7enJqdC0-00225-00058648-00058979 is fond of saying a harmless man is not +BOv7enJqdC0-00226-00058980-00059208 a good man a good man +BOv7enJqdC0-00227-00059209-00059579 is a very very dangerous man who has +BOv7enJqdC0-00228-00059580-00059913 that under voluntary control this quote +BOv7enJqdC0-00229-00059914-00060141 perfectly embodies the essence of what +BOv7enJqdC0-00230-00060141-00060459 makes Clark Kent even more than Superman +BOv7enJqdC0-00231-00060460-00060789 or kal-el the character worth looking up +BOv7enJqdC0-00232-00060790-00061062 to now for some of you I'm sure this +BOv7enJqdC0-00233-00061063-00061314 distinction seems silly they are the +BOv7enJqdC0-00234-00061315-00061389 same person +BOv7enJqdC0-00235-00061390-00061695 right of course but like all good +BOv7enJqdC0-00236-00061696-00061986 characters he's complex and this duality +BOv7enJqdC0-00237-00061987-00062255 or triplicity is what makes him +BOv7enJqdC0-00238-00062257-00062328 interesting +BOv7enJqdC0-00239-00062329-00062514 Dean Cain probably explained the +BOv7enJqdC0-00240-00062515-00062790 distinction most succinctly in Lois & +BOv7enJqdC0-00241-00062791-00063029 Clark the New Adventures of Superman Oh +BOv7enJqdC0-00242-00063030-00063474 Superman is what I can do Clark is Who I +BOv7enJqdC0-00243-00063475-00063528 am +BOv7enJqdC0-00244-00063529-00063849 this is important and it also flips the +BOv7enJqdC0-00245-00063850-00064110 classic idea of a secret identity on its +BOv7enJqdC0-00246-00064111-00064379 head consider The Incredibles every +BOv7enJqdC0-00247-00064380-00064614 superhero has a secret identity I don't +BOv7enJqdC0-00248-00064615-00064817 know a single one who doesn't who wants +BOv7enJqdC0-00249-00064819-00065049 the pressure of being super all the time +BOv7enJqdC0-00250-00065050-00065307 of course I have a secret identity can +BOv7enJqdC0-00251-00065308-00065520 you see me in this at the at the at the +BOv7enJqdC0-00252-00065521-00065727 supermarket gone I would want to go +BOv7enJqdC0-00253-00065728-00065856 shopping as a laughter girl you know +BOv7enJqdC0-00254-00065857-00066078 what I mean most superheroes use a +BOv7enJqdC0-00255-00066079-00066354 mild-mannered secret identity to mask +BOv7enJqdC0-00256-00066355-00066633 the truth about their more powerful real +BOv7enJqdC0-00257-00066634-00066966 personas mr. incredible and Elastigirl +BOv7enJqdC0-00258-00066967-00067211 are the true characters +BOv7enJqdC0-00259-00067212-00067426 and Helen part at least in the beginning +BOv7enJqdC0-00260-00067427-00067709 of those movies are the fiction but in a +BOv7enJqdC0-00261-00067710-00067913 few important ways the reverse is +BOv7enJqdC0-00262-00067914-00068182 actually true for Superman the cape and +BOv7enJqdC0-00263-00068183-00068375 tights are the fiction that helped Clark +BOv7enJqdC0-00264-00068376-00068630 Kent mask his gentle middle American +BOv7enJqdC0-00265-00068631-00068954 reality back in 2013 screenwriter max +BOv7enJqdC0-00266-00068955-00069206 landis explain this idea perfectly in a +BOv7enJqdC0-00267-00069207-00069395 rant he posted to youtube called +BOv7enJqdC0-00268-00069396-00069641 regarding Clark what's special about +BOv7enJqdC0-00269-00069642-00069911 Superman is that his parents didn't die +BOv7enJqdC0-00270-00069912-00070154 he's not a selfish post tramatic [__] +BOv7enJqdC0-00271-00070155-00070349 who needed to have his parents shot to +BOv7enJqdC0-00272-00070350-00070517 death in front of him to understand that +BOv7enJqdC0-00273-00070518-00070732 maybe you should help people and that +BOv7enJqdC0-00274-00070733-00070973 crime is wrong and murder is bad he +BOv7enJqdC0-00275-00070974-00071120 didn't get stranded on a desert island +BOv7enJqdC0-00276-00071121-00071375 he didn't have a ring forced upon him +BOv7enJqdC0-00277-00071376-00071573 that brought him into an intergalactic +BOv7enJqdC0-00278-00071574-00071774 police force he wasn't raised by +BOv7enJqdC0-00279-00071775-00072005 Amazon's he didn't go up on a ship and +BOv7enJqdC0-00280-00072006-00072223 get irradiated he's just a guy from +BOv7enJqdC0-00281-00072224-00072791 Kansas who has the best superpowers he's +BOv7enJqdC0-00282-00072792-00073115 unstoppable and instead of absolute +BOv7enJqdC0-00283-00073116-00073406 power corrupted absolutely absolute +BOv7enJqdC0-00284-00073407-00073744 power has absolved him from fear and +BOv7enJqdC0-00285-00073745-00074119 greed and hate and all of the weaknesses +BOv7enJqdC0-00286-00074120-00074426 that stem from human insecurity you're +BOv7enJqdC0-00287-00074427-00074624 looking at someone who's a superhero +BOv7enJqdC0-00288-00074625-00074921 because being a superhero makes the most +BOv7enJqdC0-00289-00074922-00075137 sense you can either try to save the +BOv7enJqdC0-00290-00075138-00075311 world you can take it over if you're a +BOv7enJqdC0-00291-00075312-00075494 Kryptonian on earth those are your +BOv7enJqdC0-00292-00075495-00075563 options +BOv7enJqdC0-00293-00075564-00075875 Clark Kent is the most dangerous man in +BOv7enJqdC0-00294-00075876-00076346 the universe and yet he is good only a +BOv7enJqdC0-00295-00076347-00076523 handful of writers have really +BOv7enJqdC0-00296-00076524-00076712 understood how important this is to the +BOv7enJqdC0-00297-00076713-00076922 character and as a result we've gotten a +BOv7enJqdC0-00298-00076923-00077126 ton of stories like Man of Steel and +BOv7enJqdC0-00299-00077127-00077435 Batman vs Superman injustice gods among +BOv7enJqdC0-00300-00077436-00077642 us and Frank Miller's The Dark Knight +BOv7enJqdC0-00301-00077643-00077909 Returns where virtually all the drama is +BOv7enJqdC0-00302-00077910-00078128 built around Superman's physical powers +BOv7enJqdC0-00303-00078129-00078451 instead of his moral values that's a +BOv7enJqdC0-00304-00078452-00078682 shame because it really seems like the +BOv7enJqdC0-00305-00078683-00078884 world needs to remember how to be more +BOv7enJqdC0-00306-00078885-00079080 like Clark Kent right about now +BOv7enJqdC0-00307-00079081-00079318 fortunately there are some good stories +BOv7enJqdC0-00308-00079319-00079615 to look at in all-star Superman Grant +BOv7enJqdC0-00309-00079616-00079870 Morrison and artist Frank quitely gives +BOv7enJqdC0-00310-00079871-00080068 us a look at the final moments of +BOv7enJqdC0-00311-00080069-00080338 Superman's life after saving research +BOv7enJqdC0-00312-00080339-00080572 facility in outer space from a plot by +BOv7enJqdC0-00313-00080573-00080845 Lex Luthor our hero has absorbed too +BOv7enJqdC0-00314-00080846-00081127 much solar energy he's going to die and +BOv7enJqdC0-00315-00081128-00081409 yet in his last few days on earth he +BOv7enJqdC0-00316-00081410-00081610 rescues an innocent young boy and his +BOv7enJqdC0-00317-00081611-00081895 runaway dog as Superman he saves a rude +BOv7enJqdC0-00318-00081896-00082141 man from falling debris as Clark he +BOv7enJqdC0-00319-00082142-00082375 saves the life of an enemy he stalks a +BOv7enJqdC0-00320-00082376-00082588 girl out of suicide he cures dying +BOv7enJqdC0-00321-00082589-00082747 children he's been visiting in the +BOv7enJqdC0-00322-00082748-00082987 hospital he shows compassion for an +BOv7enJqdC0-00323-00082988-00083188 insanely dangerous creature he becomes +BOv7enJqdC0-00324-00083189-00083449 friends with bizarro he even saves Lex +BOv7enJqdC0-00325-00083450-00083764 Luthor twice meanwhile he reveals the +BOv7enJqdC0-00326-00083765-00083953 truth about himself to Lois and shows +BOv7enJqdC0-00327-00083954-00084106 her what it's like to experience life +BOv7enJqdC0-00328-00084107-00084418 the way he experiences it then he has a +BOv7enJqdC0-00329-00084419-00084601 heart-to-heart with his father and plays +BOv7enJqdC0-00330-00084602-00084886 one last game of fetch with Krypto he's +BOv7enJqdC0-00331-00084887-00085147 both super and human and through all of +BOv7enJqdC0-00332-00085148-00085375 that he consistently demonstrates the +BOv7enJqdC0-00333-00085376-00085657 values that make him a hero in one +BOv7enJqdC0-00334-00085658-00085843 important scene he confronts a pair of +BOv7enJqdC0-00335-00085844-00086155 conquering Kryptonians bharal and lilo +BOv7enJqdC0-00336-00086156-00086404 they mock him for failing to use his +BOv7enJqdC0-00337-00086405-00086578 powers to dominate the people of Earth +BOv7enJqdC0-00338-00086579-00086935 and build a new Krypton his response is +BOv7enJqdC0-00339-00086936-00087232 humble that's not fair what right do I +BOv7enJqdC0-00340-00087233-00087565 have to impose my values on anyone you +BOv7enJqdC0-00341-00087566-00087718 can either try to save the world that +BOv7enJqdC0-00342-00087719-00087973 you can take it over Clark chooses to +BOv7enJqdC0-00343-00087974-00088261 save it and you know what even after he +BOv7enJqdC0-00344-00088262-00088474 saves metropolis from bar'el and lilo +BOv7enJqdC0-00345-00088475-00088756 when they become ill Superman shows them +BOv7enJqdC0-00346-00088757-00088969 compassion and helps alleviate their +BOv7enJqdC0-00347-00088970-00089227 suffering all-star Superman is one of my +BOv7enJqdC0-00348-00089228-00089452 favorite stories because it isn't really +BOv7enJqdC0-00349-00089453-00089665 about Superman's physical strength at +BOv7enJqdC0-00350-00089666-00089998 all it's an exploration of his character +BOv7enJqdC0-00351-00089999-00090298 this is also the focus of pauldini and +BOv7enJqdC0-00352-00090299-00090508 Alex Ross a Superman peace on earth +BOv7enJqdC0-00353-00090509-00090724 there are aspects of the story that I +BOv7enJqdC0-00354-00090725-00091006 really don't like but its core is a +BOv7enJqdC0-00355-00091007-00091234 valuable lesson about humility and the +BOv7enJqdC0-00356-00091235-00091432 limits of power even for the Man of +BOv7enJqdC0-00357-00091433-00091627 Steel it opens with Superman +BOv7enJqdC0-00358-00091628-00091804 encountering a starving girl on the +BOv7enJqdC0-00359-00091805-00092038 streets of Metropolis as Clark he +BOv7enJqdC0-00360-00092039-00092236 follows up on her story and learns more +BOv7enJqdC0-00361-00092237-00092292 about +BOv7enJqdC0-00362-00092293-00092550 hunger he reflects on the lessons taught +BOv7enJqdC0-00363-00092551-00092781 to him by his human father and decides +BOv7enJqdC0-00364-00092782-00092985 that Superman should do something about +BOv7enJqdC0-00365-00092986-00093282 it but what although he knows it's not +BOv7enJqdC0-00366-00093283-00093563 his place to set policy for mankind he +BOv7enJqdC0-00367-00093564-00093759 offers to transport food - starving +BOv7enJqdC0-00368-00093760-00094047 Nations volunteers step up to help but +BOv7enJqdC0-00369-00094048-00094226 as he begins to deliver shipping +BOv7enJqdC0-00370-00094227-00094503 containers and entire container ships to +BOv7enJqdC0-00371-00094504-00094713 hungry people around the world he +BOv7enJqdC0-00372-00094714-00094905 realizes that the problems are bigger +BOv7enJqdC0-00373-00094906-00095154 than he fully understood a one-day +BOv7enJqdC0-00374-00095155-00095412 reprieve from starvation did not resolve +BOv7enJqdC0-00375-00095413-00095688 the underlying causes of poverty did not +BOv7enJqdC0-00376-00095689-00095844 stop repressive governments from +BOv7enJqdC0-00377-00095845-00096032 terrorizing their people or stealing +BOv7enJqdC0-00378-00096033-00096276 their land and resources it did not +BOv7enJqdC0-00379-00096277-00096474 change the fact that societies without +BOv7enJqdC0-00380-00096475-00096744 decent institutions markets trade and +BOv7enJqdC0-00381-00096745-00096963 the free exchange of ideas people would +BOv7enJqdC0-00382-00096964-00097169 never be able to take care of themselves +BOv7enJqdC0-00383-00097170-00097407 Superman is forced to accept that for +BOv7enJqdC0-00384-00097408-00097656 all his physical power global hunger was +BOv7enJqdC0-00385-00097657-00097929 a problem beyond his abilities in the +BOv7enJqdC0-00386-00097930-00098184 end he chooses to teach young kids how +BOv7enJqdC0-00387-00098185-00098481 to feed themselves not as Superman but +BOv7enJqdC0-00388-00098482-00098742 as the son of a Kansas farmer and that +BOv7enJqdC0-00389-00098743-00099009 brings me to one last story Superman +BOv7enJqdC0-00390-00099010-00099332 American alien written by max landis +BOv7enJqdC0-00391-00099333-00099579 American alien is one of the best modern +BOv7enJqdC0-00392-00099580-00099834 Superman books it's a seven part series +BOv7enJqdC0-00393-00099835-00100080 of vignettes depicting critical moments +BOv7enJqdC0-00394-00100081-00100311 of development in Clark Kent's life from +BOv7enJqdC0-00395-00100312-00100479 relying on his parents to help him +BOv7enJqdC0-00396-00100480-00100662 navigate the horrifying shock of +BOv7enJqdC0-00397-00100663-00100905 suddenly floating into the air or seeing +BOv7enJqdC0-00398-00100906-00101115 through people's skin to learning how to +BOv7enJqdC0-00399-00101116-00101316 manage his emotions when even the +BOv7enJqdC0-00400-00101317-00101519 slightest outburst could level buildings +BOv7enJqdC0-00401-00101520-00101807 and kill innocent people like all star +BOv7enJqdC0-00402-00101808-00101943 and peace on earth +BOv7enJqdC0-00403-00101944-00102176 American alien isn't really about +BOv7enJqdC0-00404-00102177-00102474 Superman it's about Clark and the values +BOv7enJqdC0-00405-00102475-00102765 that make someone a hero these values +BOv7enJqdC0-00406-00102766-00102999 aren't instinctive or guaranteed in any +BOv7enJqdC0-00407-00103000-00103263 of us no one is born knowing how to be a +BOv7enJqdC0-00408-00103264-00103521 good person or what moral principles are +BOv7enJqdC0-00409-00103522-00103757 actually worth believing these are +BOv7enJqdC0-00410-00103758-00104025 things we have to learn superheroes most +BOv7enJqdC0-00411-00104026-00104274 of all Clark Kent learns them from his +BOv7enJqdC0-00412-00104275-00104567 human parents in my favorite scene in +BOv7enJqdC0-00413-00104568-00104816 the series a young Clark is frustrated +BOv7enJqdC0-00414-00104817-00105059 and embarrassed hating himself for being +BOv7enJqdC0-00415-00105060-00105252 different after failing to control his +BOv7enJqdC0-00416-00105253-00105503 ability to fly at a drive-in movie +BOv7enJqdC0-00417-00105504-00105728 hiding from the world little Clark looks +BOv7enJqdC0-00418-00105729-00105917 at himself in a mirror and sees a +BOv7enJqdC0-00419-00105918-00106205 monster in the reflection he lashes out +BOv7enJqdC0-00420-00106206-00106427 destroying both the mirror and the wall +BOv7enJqdC0-00421-00106428-00106633 behind it his dad picks him up at the +BOv7enJqdC0-00422-00106634-00106865 theater to take him home in the truck +BOv7enJqdC0-00423-00106866-00107132 they talk Jonathan tells Clark that he +BOv7enJqdC0-00424-00107133-00107315 can't just act like a jerk whenever he's +BOv7enJqdC0-00425-00107316-00107375 upset +BOv7enJqdC0-00426-00107376-00107744 Clark is sad and scared he just wants to +BOv7enJqdC0-00427-00107745-00107798 be normal +BOv7enJqdC0-00428-00107799-00108044 the next day Jonathan tries to help +BOv7enJqdC0-00429-00108045-00108334 Clark learn to control his powers after +BOv7enJqdC0-00430-00108335-00108557 a while they sit together on the front +BOv7enJqdC0-00431-00108558-00108794 porch and Clark gets introspective and +BOv7enJqdC0-00432-00108795-00108974 remorseful about his actions from the +BOv7enJqdC0-00433-00108975-00109244 night before his dad asked him what are +BOv7enJqdC0-00434-00109245-00109538 you thinking about the mirror I was +BOv7enJqdC0-00435-00109539-00109763 thinking somebody had to make it like +BOv7enJqdC0-00436-00109764-00110015 somebody the factory took the time to +BOv7enJqdC0-00437-00110016-00110291 make it then somebody had to sell it to +BOv7enJqdC0-00438-00110292-00110498 the movie theater and then other people +BOv7enJqdC0-00439-00110499-00110710 had to fit it to the wall which somebody +BOv7enJqdC0-00440-00110711-00110996 else built before them the gravity of +BOv7enJqdC0-00441-00110997-00111272 his outburst becomes clear and he goes +BOv7enJqdC0-00442-00111273-00111554 on when you break something you're not +BOv7enJqdC0-00443-00111555-00111749 just breaking the thing you're like +BOv7enJqdC0-00444-00111750-00112045 hurting everyone who made it what it was +BOv7enJqdC0-00445-00112046-00112358 man that is one of the most insightful +BOv7enJqdC0-00446-00112358-00112556 realizations anyone could ever have +BOv7enJqdC0-00447-00112557-00112810 about the world around them and it was +BOv7enJqdC0-00448-00112811-00113033 written in a comic book these stories +BOv7enJqdC0-00449-00113033-00113273 have survived for decades they've been +BOv7enJqdC0-00450-00113274-00113504 retold in dozens of languages and +BOv7enJqdC0-00451-00113505-00113747 they're known all over the world they +BOv7enJqdC0-00452-00113748-00114002 are mythology and like all mythologies +BOv7enJqdC0-00453-00114003-00114254 they're ultimately about human values +BOv7enJqdC0-00454-00114255-00114503 they're how writers and artists convey +BOv7enJqdC0-00455-00114504-00114695 their ideas and share lessons about +BOv7enJqdC0-00456-00114696-00114926 character and morality with everyone +BOv7enJqdC0-00457-00114927-00115250 else but not every value anybody puts on +BOv7enJqdC0-00458-00115251-00115583 screen or in a book is good the ends +BOv7enJqdC0-00459-00115583-00115841 don't justify the means the collective +BOv7enJqdC0-00460-00115842-00116074 isn't more important than the individual +BOv7enJqdC0-00461-00116075-00116383 appealing to the greater good is often +BOv7enJqdC0-00462-00116384-00116584 just an excuse for the abuse of power +BOv7enJqdC0-00463-00116585-00116911 not every moral lesson anybody takes the +BOv7enJqdC0-00464-00116913-00117128 time to write down is actually going to +BOv7enJqdC0-00465-00117129-00117389 make the world a better place so the +BOv7enJqdC0-00466-00117390-00117668 stories we tell each other matter that's +BOv7enJqdC0-00467-00117669-00117827 why it's frustrating for me to see +BOv7enJqdC0-00468-00117828-00118043 portrayals of Superman in Man of Steel +BOv7enJqdC0-00469-00118044-00118384 or Batman vs Superman who have unbridled +BOv7enJqdC0-00470-00118385-00118633 power and no clear moral compass +BOv7enJqdC0-00471-00118634-00118889 the heroes in some of these movies don't +BOv7enJqdC0-00472-00118890-00119096 seem to care about anything it's also +BOv7enJqdC0-00473-00119097-00119300 frustrating to see writers who clearly +BOv7enJqdC0-00474-00119301-00119597 hates Superman like Frank Miller depict +BOv7enJqdC0-00475-00119598-00119809 him as a state worshiping goon or an +BOv7enJqdC0-00476-00119810-00120125 inhuman alien God one bad day from +BOv7enJqdC0-00477-00120126-00120389 becoming a brutal dictator that's bad +BOv7enJqdC0-00478-00120390-00120449 for business +BOv7enJqdC0-00479-00120450-00120685 I understand sir and although it's fun +BOv7enJqdC0-00480-00120686-00120902 to imagine alternate versions they can't +BOv7enJqdC0-00481-00120903-00121277 all be evil certain people must die in +BOv7enJqdC0-00482-00121278-00122193 order for the system to work wise words +BOv7enJqdC0-00483-00122194-00122518 if Superman's only role is to punch +BOv7enJqdC0-00484-00122519-00122754 things really really hard there's +BOv7enJqdC0-00485-00122755-00123019 nothing to look up to or be inspired by +BOv7enJqdC0-00486-00123020-00123303 that might be a power fantasy but it +BOv7enJqdC0-00487-00123304-00123486 doesn't help us understand how to use +BOv7enJqdC0-00488-00123487-00123774 the power we have for good and that's +BOv7enJqdC0-00489-00123775-00123933 not what's great about the character or +BOv7enJqdC0-00490-00123934-00124104 why it's worth telling stories about +BOv7enJqdC0-00491-00124105-00124452 he's so much better than that and more +BOv7enJqdC0-00492-00124453-00124606 and more I think we need to start +BOv7enJqdC0-00493-00124607-00124809 reminding each other that there are some +BOv7enJqdC0-00494-00124810-00125013 values that are worth standing up for +BOv7enJqdC0-00495-00125014-00125361 and some that really aren't we need more +BOv7enJqdC0-00496-00125362-00125647 truth justice and respect for individual +BOv7enJqdC0-00497-00125648-00125913 freedom we need fewer people trying to +BOv7enJqdC0-00498-00125914-00126150 lie and mislead in order to impose their +BOv7enJqdC0-00499-00126151-00126445 values on everyone else by force we need +BOv7enJqdC0-00500-00126446-00126781 more humility compassion and kindness we +BOv7enJqdC0-00501-00126782-00127057 need less anger and division more calm +BOv7enJqdC0-00502-00127058-00127444 less noise what I'm saying is we need +BOv7enJqdC0-00503-00127445-00127800 actual heroes on our recent episode +BOv7enJqdC0-00504-00127801-00128025 about cop shows and police brutality one +BOv7enJqdC0-00505-00128026-00128235 point I made was that even though those +BOv7enJqdC0-00506-00128236-00128422 stories tell us that everyone with a +BOv7enJqdC0-00507-00128423-00128700 badge is a hero all those characters go +BOv7enJqdC0-00508-00128701-00128958 around acting like villains a couple +BOv7enJqdC0-00509-00128959-00129141 years ago I said the same thing about +BOv7enJqdC0-00510-00129142-00129406 Captain Marvel the idea that it's cooler +BOv7enJqdC0-00511-00129407-00129598 and more dramatic to make every +BOv7enJqdC0-00512-00129599-00129781 character as dark and violent as +BOv7enJqdC0-00513-00129782-00130038 possible has permeated pop culture for +BOv7enJqdC0-00514-00130039-00130263 years and now we live in a world where +BOv7enJqdC0-00515-00130264-00130449 it's often impossible to tell the good +BOv7enJqdC0-00516-00130450-00130807 guys and the bad guys apart I need you +BOv7enJqdC0-00517-00130808-00131028 to engage the targets Kirti this is +BOv7enJqdC0-00518-00131029-00131185 better zero one what about the dying +BOv7enJqdC0-00519-00131186-00131222 book +BOv7enJqdC0-00520-00131223-00131406 [Applause] +BOv7enJqdC0-00521-00131407-00131653 antihero stories work when they actually +BOv7enJqdC0-00522-00131654-00131860 make sense for the character in the +BOv7enJqdC0-00523-00131861-00132141 world being portrayed but blurring that +BOv7enJqdC0-00524-00132142-00132310 line when it comes to the characters +BOv7enJqdC0-00525-00132311-00132454 that are supposed to represent the best +BOv7enJqdC0-00526-00132455-00132745 of humanity has done a lot of damage to +BOv7enJqdC0-00527-00132746-00132916 the way people think about what it means +BOv7enJqdC0-00528-00132917-00133261 to be good I think it's time for that +BOv7enJqdC0-00529-00133262-00133531 trend to end looking around at what's +BOv7enJqdC0-00530-00133532-00133777 been going on in our society it can't +BOv7enJqdC0-00531-00133778-00133951 help but feel that maybe we've lost our +BOv7enJqdC0-00532-00133952-00133993 way +BOv7enJqdC0-00533-00133994-00134254 and I suspect that this is largely a +BOv7enJqdC0-00534-00134255-00134548 result of bad ideas and nihilistic +BOv7enJqdC0-00535-00134549-00134737 philosophies that have taken root in +BOv7enJqdC0-00536-00134738-00134956 virtually every one of our cultural +BOv7enJqdC0-00537-00134957-00135204 institutions but if we're going to hold +BOv7enJqdC0-00538-00135205-00135358 on to all the things that have led to +BOv7enJqdC0-00539-00135359-00135479 human progress +BOv7enJqdC0-00540-00135480-00135733 enlightenment Sciences in the Industrial +BOv7enJqdC0-00541-00135734-00136000 Revolution division of labor and global +BOv7enJqdC0-00542-00136001-00136297 trade expanding individual liberty civil +BOv7enJqdC0-00543-00136298-00136585 rights and economic freedom we can't +BOv7enJqdC0-00544-00136586-00136750 lose the values that make those things +BOv7enJqdC0-00545-00136751-00137029 possible to do that we need better +BOv7enJqdC0-00546-00137030-00137316 heroes and good role models and we need +BOv7enJqdC0-00547-00137317-00137548 stories and mythology to help us share +BOv7enJqdC0-00548-00137549-00137851 these values with everyone and that is +BOv7enJqdC0-00549-00137852-00138568 why we need Superman hey everybody +BOv7enJqdC0-00550-00138569-00138796 thanks for watching this episode of out +BOv7enJqdC0-00551-00138797-00138952 of frame as I said at the beginning +BOv7enJqdC0-00552-00138953-00139273 there's no way I could cover 82 years of +BOv7enJqdC0-00553-00139274-00139534 comic history so what are some of your +BOv7enJqdC0-00554-00139535-00139771 favorite stories who are your favorite +BOv7enJqdC0-00555-00139772-00140026 heroes let's talk about that in the +BOv7enJqdC0-00556-00140027-00140227 comments I'd also like to give a shout +BOv7enJqdC0-00557-00140228-00140479 out to all of our patrons with an extra +BOv7enJqdC0-00558-00140480-00140665 special thank you to our associate +BOv7enJqdC0-00559-00140666-00140977 producers - Matt Taber Dallin case +BOv7enJqdC0-00560-00140978-00141254 Victoria Mann chart and Laura Turner +BOv7enJqdC0-00561-00141255-00141577 thank you if you love the show and want +BOv7enJqdC0-00562-00141578-00141700 to help us keep making more episodes +BOv7enJqdC0-00563-00141701-00141910 check out the patreon link in the +BOv7enJqdC0-00564-00141911-00142144 description below and for those of you +BOv7enJqdC0-00565-00142145-00142261 who have been wondering where common +BOv7enJqdC0-00566-00142262-00142479 sense soap box went I have some news for +BOv7enJqdC0-00567-00142480-00142726 you we've created a brand new channel +BOv7enJqdC0-00568-00142727-00142939 just for common sense soap box and +BOv7enJqdC0-00569-00142940-00143236 Seamus is working on new episodes right +BOv7enJqdC0-00570-00143237-00143515 now if you're a fan of that series click +BOv7enJqdC0-00571-00143516-00143656 that link in the description and +BOv7enJqdC0-00572-00143657-00143923 subscribe today as always don't forget +BOv7enJqdC0-00573-00143924-00144127 to like this video and subscribe to this +BOv7enJqdC0-00574-00144128-00144313 channel and follow us on all our social +BOv7enJqdC0-00575-00144314-00144597 media at YouTube Facebook Twitter +BOv7enJqdC0-00576-00144598-00144978 Instagram thanks for watching +BTDcD2xGtgk-00000-00000016-00000262 for it the u.s government is wrong the +BTDcD2xGtgk-00001-00000263-00000543 european governments are wrong cnn is +BTDcD2xGtgk-00002-00000544-00000638 wrong +BTDcD2xGtgk-00003-00000639-00000919 all of them have turned these pernicious +BTDcD2xGtgk-00004-00000919-00001087 lies about what's happening into +BTDcD2xGtgk-00005-00001088-00001431 ethiopia into yet another regime change +BTDcD2xGtgk-00006-00001432-00001558 operation +BTDcD2xGtgk-00007-00001559-00001759 and we've seen what happened in libya +BTDcD2xGtgk-00008-00001760-00002007 the country destroyed and divided we've +BTDcD2xGtgk-00009-00002007-00002159 seen what's happened in syria the +BTDcD2xGtgk-00010-00002160-00002415 country destroyed and divided we've seen +BTDcD2xGtgk-00011-00002416-00002575 what's happened in yemen what's happened +BTDcD2xGtgk-00012-00002576-00002791 in iraq the country is destroyed and +BTDcD2xGtgk-00013-00002792-00003071 divided we've seen how iran cuba +BTDcD2xGtgk-00014-00003072-00003319 venezuela have been blockaded choked +BTDcD2xGtgk-00015-00003320-00003551 starved to death this is what they want +BTDcD2xGtgk-00016-00003552-00003711 to do to the nations of the horn of +BTDcD2xGtgk-00017-00003711-00003870 africa why +BTDcD2xGtgk-00018-00003871-00004127 why what is the crime of ethiopia the +BTDcD2xGtgk-00019-00004128-00004415 crime is to seek unity in the horn of +BTDcD2xGtgk-00020-00004416-00004670 africa and to seek unity on the african +BTDcD2xGtgk-00021-00004671-00004870 continent +BTDcD2xGtgk-00022-00004871-00005143 u.s policy has actually been very +BTDcD2xGtgk-00023-00005144-00005438 consistent for the last 40 years when it +BTDcD2xGtgk-00024-00005439-00005631 comes to the horn of africa +BTDcD2xGtgk-00025-00005632-00005951 keep them divided +BTDcD2xGtgk-00026-00005952-00006127 that they've supported various people at +BTDcD2xGtgk-00027-00006128-00006327 various times they've had various +BTDcD2xGtgk-00028-00006328-00006534 positions but they all boil down to one +BTDcD2xGtgk-00029-00006536-00006831 thing keep them divided +BTDcD2xGtgk-00030-00006831-00007134 they recognize and this is written down +BTDcD2xGtgk-00031-00007136-00007278 you look at what the us government +BTDcD2xGtgk-00032-00007279-00007414 itself writes +BTDcD2xGtgk-00033-00007415-00007559 about the world +BTDcD2xGtgk-00034-00007559-00007670 you can look it up it's called the +BTDcD2xGtgk-00035-00007672-00007934 national defense strategy +BTDcD2xGtgk-00036-00007936-00008199 and they write in there that the us must +BTDcD2xGtgk-00037-00008200-00008535 control all of the regions in the world +BTDcD2xGtgk-00038-00008536-00008703 that the most important thing is to +BTDcD2xGtgk-00039-00008704-00008927 prevent any nations doesn't matter if +BTDcD2xGtgk-00040-00008928-00009119 you like the us doesn't matter if you +BTDcD2xGtgk-00041-00009120-00009351 hate the us but anyone who wants to +BTDcD2xGtgk-00042-00009352-00009535 think independently and act +BTDcD2xGtgk-00043-00009536-00009751 independently is a problem and it must +BTDcD2xGtgk-00044-00009752-00010014 be presented prevented and the 800 +BTDcD2xGtgk-00045-00010015-00010183 billion dollars they spend every year at +BTDcD2xGtgk-00046-00010184-00010406 the pentagon that's what it's there for +BTDcD2xGtgk-00047-00010407-00010606 to prevent people from thinking and +BTDcD2xGtgk-00048-00010607-00010863 acting independently of what the u.s +BTDcD2xGtgk-00049-00010864-00011078 feels they should be thinking and acting +BTDcD2xGtgk-00050-00011079-00011342 so the horn of africa is now really in +BTDcD2xGtgk-00051-00011343-00011606 the midst of a terrible tragedy purely +BTDcD2xGtgk-00052-00011607-00011791 because people not because they hate the +BTDcD2xGtgk-00053-00011792-00011959 united states and that's what's +BTDcD2xGtgk-00054-00011960-00012174 important to recognize +BTDcD2xGtgk-00055-00012175-00012374 that that doesn't matter at all +BTDcD2xGtgk-00056-00012375-00012559 but just wanting to think and to act +BTDcD2xGtgk-00057-00012560-00012751 independent to lift up your own nation +BTDcD2xGtgk-00058-00012752-00012991 to develop a nation in a way that will +BTDcD2xGtgk-00059-00012991-00013222 provide dignity for all people that is a +BTDcD2xGtgk-00060-00013223-00013366 crime +BTDcD2xGtgk-00061-00013368-00013575 don't forget that it's not just the +BTDcD2xGtgk-00062-00013576-00013735 biden administration +BTDcD2xGtgk-00063-00013736-00013958 it's all of them since clinton yes it +BTDcD2xGtgk-00064-00013959-00014199 was trump trump who said on a telephone +BTDcD2xGtgk-00065-00014200-00014479 call with two other heads of state +BTDcD2xGtgk-00066-00014480-00014903 that that egypt should bomb the dam yes +BTDcD2xGtgk-00067-00014904-00015143 so we've seen it from clinton to obama +BTDcD2xGtgk-00068-00015144-00015430 to trump to biden the same type of +BTDcD2xGtgk-00069-00015431-00015535 policy +BTDcD2xGtgk-00070-00015536-00015758 to keep the horn divided to keep +BTDcD2xGtgk-00071-00015759-00015958 ethiopia down to keep eritrea down to +BTDcD2xGtgk-00072-00015959-00016135 keep somalia down and to make sure +BTDcD2xGtgk-00073-00016136-00016430 people can't live in dignity so i am +BTDcD2xGtgk-00074-00016431-00016663 very very honored to be here to say no +BTDcD2xGtgk-00075-00016664-00016871 more to these types of policies and to +BTDcD2xGtgk-00076-00016872-00017039 say to this government that claims to +BTDcD2xGtgk-00077-00017040-00017271 speak in my name not in our name will +BTDcD2xGtgk-00078-00017272-00017494 you destroy yet another country not on +BTDcD2xGtgk-00079-00017495-00017884 our watch we won't allow +BUkjvRitiEu-00000-00000000-00000399 [Music] +BUkjvRitiEu-00001-00000400-00000711 welcome to the daily samuel +BUkjvRitiEu-00002-00000712-00001083 the us covenant king case total is 11 +BUkjvRitiEu-00003-00001084-00001550 895 876 people testing positive +BUkjvRitiEu-00004-00001551-00001926 with 254 297 deaths +BUkjvRitiEu-00005-00001927-00002295 the world's total is 57 million 432 +BUkjvRitiEu-00006-00002296-00002655 253 cases in other news +BUkjvRitiEu-00007-00002656-00002839 georgia has certified its election +BUkjvRitiEu-00008-00002840-00002999 results hinting 16 +BUkjvRitiEu-00009-00003000-00003375 lectures to joe biden currently if you +BUkjvRitiEu-00010-00003376-00003415 look +BUkjvRitiEu-00011-00003415-00003767 only at certified results trump +BUkjvRitiEu-00012-00003768-00004135 has the weight of 63 to 35 +BUkjvRitiEu-00013-00004136-00004511 but given that the other state will be +BUkjvRitiEu-00014-00004512-00004743 that biden one will be certifying in the +BUkjvRitiEu-00015-00004744-00004895 coming weeks +BUkjvRitiEu-00016-00004896-00005102 and trump's election challenges have all +BUkjvRitiEu-00017-00005103-00005279 been failing +BUkjvRitiEu-00018-00005280-00005511 pretty soon biden is going to take the +BUkjvRitiEu-00019-00005512-00005679 lead and 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+BVjmEHjG39k-00038-00019983-00020375 video hierarchically sign out shallot +BVjmEHjG39k-00039-00020376-00020714 Runa do eternium and dying light welcome +BVjmEHjG39k-00040-00020715-00020936 I saw dr. vicious on each gemstone and +BVjmEHjG39k-00041-00020937-00021185 lava for a like share subscribe shall +BVjmEHjG39k-00042-00021186-00021470 our chicken video : +BWbW4SWLxau-00000-00000057-00000316 the earthquake game was a college +BWbW4SWLxau-00001-00000317-00000518 football game in which the crowd +BWbW4SWLxau-00002-00000519-00000761 reaction after an important play +BWbW4SWLxau-00003-00000762-00001127 registered on a seismograph plate in +BWbW4SWLxau-00004-00001128-00001603 front of a crowd of 79 thousand 431 at +BWbW4SWLxau-00005-00001604-00001892 Louisiana State University's Tiger +BWbW4SWLxau-00006-00001893-00002320 Stadium on October 8 1988 the LSU Tigers +BWbW4SWLxau-00007-00002321-00003206 upset number 4 auburn 7 to 6 +BWbW4SWLxau-00008-00003207-00003783 topic background +BWbW4SWLxau-00009-00003784-00004017 the game pitted Southeastern Conference +BWbW4SWLxau-00010-00004018-00004401 rivals Auburn and LSU and was one of the +BWbW4SWLxau-00011-00004402-00004698 more notable games in the Auburn LSU +BWbW4SWLxau-00012-00004699-00005052 football rivalry along with national +BWbW4SWLxau-00013-00005053-00005334 rankings the game also proved to be of +BWbW4SWLxau-00014-00005335-00005583 great significance to that season's +BWbW4SWLxau-00015-00005584-00005997 eventual SEC title the stadium was +BWbW4SWLxau-00016-00005998-00006246 filled to capacity and the game was +BWbW4SWLxau-00017-00006247-00007050 being broadcast on ESPN +BWbW4SWLxau-00018-00007051-00007600 topic the game +BWbW4SWLxau-00019-00007601-00008044 the game was dominated by defense LSU +BWbW4SWLxau-00020-00008045-00008371 managed only one drive of over ten yards +BWbW4SWLxau-00021-00008372-00008746 in the first half the only score of the +BWbW4SWLxau-00022-00008747-00009043 first half was a field goal by Auburn's +BWbW4SWLxau-00023-00009044-00009528 win Lyle with 141 to go before half-time +BWbW4SWLxau-00024-00009529-00009889 LSU made it to the Auburn 23 yard line +BWbW4SWLxau-00025-00009890-00010162 midway through the third quarter but a +BWbW4SWLxau-00026-00010163-00010396 clipping penalty moved the team out of +BWbW4SWLxau-00027-00010397-00010786 field goal range on Albans next +BWbW4SWLxau-00028-00010787-00011026 possession Lyle kicked another field +BWbW4SWLxau-00029-00011027-00011329 goal with 1018 left in the game to make +BWbW4SWLxau-00030-00011330-00012031 the score 6 to 0 +BWbW4SWLxau-00031-00012032-00012545 topic the play +BWbW4SWLxau-00032-00012546-00012896 Alban led six to zero with less than two +BWbW4SWLxau-00033-00012897-00013207 minutes left in the fourth quarter +BWbW4SWLxau-00034-00013208-00013568 LSU's quarterback Tommy Hudson drove the +BWbW4SWLxau-00035-00013569-00013819 team down the field before throwing an +BWbW4SWLxau-00036-00013821-00014113 11 yard touchdown pass to Eddie fuller +BWbW4SWLxau-00037-00014115-00014561 on fourth down the game's name resulted +BWbW4SWLxau-00038-00014562-00014813 from the reaction of the crowd after the +BWbW4SWLxau-00039-00014813-00015062 final pass which registered as an +BWbW4SWLxau-00040-00015063-00015374 earthquake by a seismograph located in +BWbW4SWLxau-00041-00015375-00015694 LSU's how Russell Geoscience complex +BWbW4SWLxau-00042-00015695-00016106 around 1,000 feet 305 metres from the +BWbW4SWLxau-00043-00016107-00016475 stadium the seismograph reading was +BWbW4SWLxau-00044-00016476-00016739 discovered the morning after the game by +BWbW4SWLxau-00045-00016740-00017078 LSU seismologist Don Stevenson and +BWbW4SWLxau-00046-00017079-00017450 student worker Riley Milner word of the +BWbW4SWLxau-00047-00017451-00017711 seismograph reading reached the daily +BWbW4SWLxau-00048-00017712-00018055 Ravalli and spread to the local media +BWbW4SWLxau-00049-00018056-00018332 stevenson submitted the reading to the +BWbW4SWLxau-00050-00018333-00018632 louisiana Geological Survey to have it +BWbW4SWLxau-00051-00018633-00019040 preserved Stephenson displayed a copy of +BWbW4SWLxau-00052-00019041-00019300 the reading on his office window on the +BWbW4SWLxau-00053-00019301-00019637 LSU campus that was later observed by an +BWbW4SWLxau-00054-00019638-00019994 ESPN news crew which was on campus doing +BWbW4SWLxau-00055-00019995-00020237 a story sometime prior to when +BWbW4SWLxau-00056-00020238-00020527 Stephenson left LSU in the summer of +BWbW4SWLxau-00057-00020528-00021017 1991 the news crew decided to do a piece +BWbW4SWLxau-00058-00021018-00021319 on what they dubbed the earthquake game +BWbW4SWLxau-00059-00021320-00021641 this news story helped to add more +BWbW4SWLxau-00060-00021642-00022305 attention to the event +BWbW4SWLxau-00061-00022306-00022969 topic aftermath and legacy +BWbW4SWLxau-00062-00022970-00023314 the wind brought LSU's win-loss record +BWbW4SWLxau-00063-00023315-00023563 to three to two on the season and a +BWbW4SWLxau-00064-00023564-00023935 number 19 ranking in the app poll the +BWbW4SWLxau-00065-00023936-00024199 team finished the regular season with an +BWbW4SWLxau-00066-00024200-00024523 8 to 3 record and lost to Syracuse in +BWbW4SWLxau-00067-00024524-00024928 the Hall of Fame Bowl Albin dropped to 4 +BWbW4SWLxau-00068-00024929-00025303 to 1 and to number 12 in the poll the +BWbW4SWLxau-00069-00025304-00025588 game was the only one Albin lost in the +BWbW4SWLxau-00070-00025589-00025981 regular season the team was defeated by +BWbW4SWLxau-00071-00025982-00026413 Florida State in the Sugar Bowl in games +BWbW4SWLxau-00072-00026414-00026743 played by LSU at Tiger Stadium the +BWbW4SWLxau-00073-00026744-00026977 winning touchdown is included in a +BWbW4SWLxau-00074-00026977-00027240 montage that is shown at the start of +BWbW4SWLxau-00075-00027241-00027895 the fourth quarter +BWbW4SWLxau-00076-00027895-00028480 topic C also +BWbW4SWLxau-00077-00028481-00028789 similar seismic activity has been +BWbW4SWLxau-00078-00028789-00029185 registered during other football games +BWbW4SWLxau-00079-00029186-00029519 2011 NFL playoff game between the +BWbW4SWLxau-00080-00029520-00029723 Seattle Seahawks and the New Orleans +BWbW4SWLxau-00081-00029724-00030257 Saints 2013 Iron Bowl between Auburn and +BWbW4SWLxau-00082-00030258-00030713 Alabama six times at Virginia Tech slain +BWbW4SWLxau-00083-00030714-00031114 stadium first in 2011 against Miami in +BWbW4SWLxau-00084-00031114-00031552 2015 against Ohio State against Miami in +BWbW4SWLxau-00085-00031552-00031676 2016 +BWbW4SWLxau-00086-00031677-00032027 against Clemson in 2017 against not +BWbW4SWLxau-00087-00032027-00032693 redeem in 2018 and against Miami in 2018 +BX7JMd2V114-00000-00000426-00000618 let's talk a little bit more about +BX7JMd2V114-00001-00000619-00000909 voters yesterday here in New Hampshire +BX7JMd2V114-00002-00000910-00001125 on Saturday 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+BbEx8-bQOzQ-00073-00014519-00014735 but it's a really nice low profile chair +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00074-00014736-00014855 that makes it really good +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00075-00014856-00015038 if you have a space like a sun room you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00076-00015040-00015199 want people to twist around and talk to +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00077-00015200-00015343 you in the kitchen but they can also sit +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00078-00015344-00015503 and have a really nice conversation +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00079-00015504-00015758 in the sun room +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00080-00015759-00016390 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00081-00016391-00016543 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00082-00016544-00016750 this chair just has such great detailing +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00083-00016751-00016894 you know i'm all about adding a new +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00084-00016895-00016999 shape into a room and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00085-00017000-00017143 this one certainly does you don't +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00086-00017144-00017279 normally see something like this but i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00087-00017280-00017439 like that it's really nice and open +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00088-00017440-00017479 right +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00089-00017480-00017639 you don't have to do that huge barrel +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00090-00017640-00017758 back if you don't want your space to +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00091-00017759-00017855 feel small +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00092-00017856-00018286 this is the perfect chair this is the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00093-00018287-00018519 jagger chair it's upholstered and it's +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00094-00018520-00018735 28 inches and it comes this is the carry +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00095-00018736-00018830 a black color +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00096-00018831-00019014 but i love that it has the black and the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00097-00019015-00019207 gold and of course you can choose your +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00098-00019208-00019343 own upholstery color almost +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00099-00019344-00019527 all the time at our house just look +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00100-00019528-00019711 online and ask the really nice people in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00101-00019712-00019894 your store but this is so cute it's a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00102-00019895-00020014 really nice way to keep your house +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00103-00020015-00020143 really nice and open +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00104-00020144-00020303 but still introduce all those different +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00105-00020304-00020575 colors if this isn't poof heaven i don't +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00106-00020576-00020663 know what is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00107-00020664-00020871 i like that one and that one and that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00108-00020872-00021055 one and that one and it's good i like +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00109-00021056-00021199 that one because i already own two of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00110-00021200-00021430 them guys i sit at my desk all day long +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00111-00021431-00021639 and that's what i sit on it forces me to +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00112-00021640-00021928 have good posture plus it's just super +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00113-00021929-00022483 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00114-00022484-00022607 cute +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00115-00022608-00022807 this sutter bar cabinet is so cute i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00116-00022808-00022967 don't drink but like i still feel like i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00117-00022968-00023135 need it i put my dishes in there or +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00118-00023136-00023430 something like that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00119-00023431-00023807 look at that now that's fancy that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00120-00023808-00023967 that really makes you want to entertain +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00121-00023968-00024239 huh +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00122-00024240-00024422 guys they even have the perrier here i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00123-00024423-00024614 mean if this isn't class i don't know +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00124-00024615-00024719 what is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00125-00024720-00024878 but i love this plate and i'm gonna buy +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00126-00024879-00025063 it this is the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00127-00025064-00025271 sullivan desk collection i really like +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00128-00025272-00025407 it again because there +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00129-00025408-00025687 is some open space but the whole entire +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00130-00025688-00025831 desk is not open +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00131-00025832-00026078 and there is tons of storage on the back +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00132-00026079-00026150 side here +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00133-00026151-00026318 and i really like these handles they're +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00134-00026319-00026462 really nice and long +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00135-00026463-00026735 and the storage is ample what i really +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00136-00026736-00026846 love about their desk +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00137-00026847-00026999 is that they have executive desks but +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00138-00027000-00027167 they also have smaller desks +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00139-00027168-00027358 if you're dealing with a smaller space +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00140-00027360-00027527 because a lot of luxury stores they have +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00141-00027527-00027702 this huge furniture and you're like what +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00142-00027704-00027887 if i don't live in a huge space and i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00143-00027888-00028031 still want their furniture +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00144-00028032-00028614 you can do that at our house +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00145-00028614-00028918 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00146-00028919-00029135 we just discovered that these chairs +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00147-00029136-00029302 swivel so we're just throwing our tears +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00148-00029304-00029367 away now +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00149-00029368-00029614 look at these you can you know sit here +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00150-00029616-00029783 look really nice and fancy +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00151-00029783-00030143 here i'll show you but you can also turn +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00152-00030144-00030287 around and do some business +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00153-00030288-00030423 this is the perfect chair you want your +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00154-00030424-00030574 dining room to look nice but you're also +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00155-00030575-00030718 working in the living room now or the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00156-00030719-00030790 dining room +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00157-00030791-00030967 because we're all working from home desk +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00158-00030968-00031151 chair and dining chair there's nothing +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00159-00031152-00031295 better i think babe was trying to keep +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00160-00031295-00031431 me away from the front +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00161-00031432-00031751 of our house because look at this mirror +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00162-00031752-00032095 now it was originally 8.99 now it's 4 49 +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00163-00032095-00032311 and you can take it home in this box +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00164-00032312-00032518 you can fit this in a standard suv your +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00165-00032519-00032727 wife one's wife might have to walk home +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00166-00032727-00032887 but that's okay i love this +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00167-00032888-00033174 it is so it has the rustic element but +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00168-00033175-00033462 it has a really nice arch it adds a new +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00169-00033463-00033799 shape to the home mirrors in general +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00170-00033800-00033974 are to die for like this one is also +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00171-00033975-00034174 super cute you don't always have to be +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00172-00034175-00034407 into like the really ornate guilt mirror +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00173-00034408-00034671 this one is super industrial it has the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00174-00034672-00034774 clean lines it has +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00175-00034775-00035031 tons of nailing and texture i've never +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00176-00035032-00035183 seen anything like this before and i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00177-00035184-00035318 think that's important +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00178-00035319-00035543 again people keep saying that 2021 is a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00179-00035544-00035790 year of absolutely not following trends +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00180-00035791-00035983 that's the trend so get something unique +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00181-00035984-00036127 like this i've never seen anything like +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00182-00036128-00036255 this in someone's home but that doesn't +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00183-00036256-00036483 mean it shouldn't be there because it is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00184-00036484-00036721 breathtaking +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00185-00036722-00037255 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00186-00037256-00037455 and again it's all about adding like a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00187-00037456-00037646 natural element into your home so i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00188-00037647-00037695 actually +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00189-00037696-00037855 really love this bench you could put +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00190-00037856-00038030 this behind any sofa besides like a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00191-00038031-00038239 leather one +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00192-00038240-00038399 but you could put it behind your sofa +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00193-00038400-00038567 and have a really nice natural element +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00194-00038568-00038695 you could line it with coffee table +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00195-00038696-00038911 books or vases and really +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00196-00038912-00039135 present a new place to put some decor +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00197-00039136-00039318 and then just have a really nice earthy +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00198-00039319-00039446 note especially if you're getting a lot +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00199-00039447-00039574 more modern furniture +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00200-00039575-00039751 and you want to soften it up this is the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00201-00039752-00040878 perfect way to do it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00202-00040879-00041887 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00203-00041888-00042030 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00204-00042031-00042167 absolutely every single one of their +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00205-00042168-00042351 trays are good i try to buy them all the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00206-00042352-00042567 time i only have so many surfaces but +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00207-00042568-00042790 i think i'll be successful i love this +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00208-00042791-00042935 tray when i actually saw it the first +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00209-00042936-00042983 time +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00210-00042984-00043190 they had it on the base of a bed and you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00211-00043191-00043327 know that is essential when you're +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00212-00043328-00043455 trying to get that luxury look in your +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00213-00043456-00043518 bedroom +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00214-00043519-00043695 put a tray on the bottom with your +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00215-00043696-00043895 bedtime essentials your books your water +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00216-00043896-00043983 stuff like that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00217-00043984-00044151 it really makes you feel at home and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00218-00044152-00044295 like you're welcome to do a space and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00219-00044296-00044487 it's a perfect thing to do for guests +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00220-00044488-00044679 now i said there's never a time for a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00221-00044680-00044855 leather unless it's a chesterfield and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00222-00044856-00045102 look at this one she +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00223-00045103-00045495 is beautiful this is the berwick oh guys +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00224-00045496-00045590 by the end of the day i'm gonna have +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00225-00045591-00045646 this whole +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00226-00045647-00046046 catalog memorized and i oh she's comfy +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00227-00046047-00046271 she is i love absolutely everything in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00228-00046272-00046374 this area first +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00229-00046375-00046623 look at this chair if you're a fan of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00230-00046624-00046727 all the texture +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00231-00046728-00046974 this is giving that to you you not only +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00232-00046975-00047127 have the textured here but they went in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00233-00047128-00047271 with this hide pillow +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00234-00047272-00047502 i mean they went full force here then +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00235-00047503-00047655 they have this phenomenal +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00236-00047656-00047807 tufted chesterfield where you're getting +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00237-00047808-00048015 texture from there and then +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00238-00048016-00048286 look at these nesting tables you have +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00239-00048287-00048423 the petrified wood +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00240-00048424-00048662 the normal wood it looks so luxe and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00241-00048663-00048815 it's a really good way to introduce some +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00242-00048816-00048911 natural tones +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00243-00048912-00049102 that's what you see all throughout our +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00244-00049103-00049295 house tons of natural elements that you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00245-00049296-00049383 can combine +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00246-00049384-00049567 with your modern home your minimalist +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00247-00049568-00049790 home your traditional your transitional +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00248-00049791-00049886 your coastal +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00249-00049887-00050079 literally every single design style our +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00250-00050080-00050279 house has something and so a few stores +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00251-00050280-00050642 can say that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00252-00050643-00051086 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00253-00051087-00051287 the style of chair is so in right now it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00254-00051288-00051390 has a really +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00255-00051391-00051638 cool like flap over arms again this just +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00256-00051639-00051750 seems like a chair that you actually +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00257-00051751-00051950 want to sit in not just look at right +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00258-00051951-00052087 because we're actually using our +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00259-00052088-00052294 furniture in 2021 i have to say that to +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00260-00052295-00052454 convince myself of that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00261-00052455-00052638 because you know i don't sit on my own +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00262-00052639-00052791 sofas this is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00263-00052791-00053111 the angles leather chair now +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00264-00053112-00053279 this is the dark version of the emily +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00265-00053279-00053519 mirror so that means that if you don't +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00266-00053520-00053671 want the gold you don't want the silver +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00267-00053672-00053775 you want something a little bit more +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00268-00053776-00053838 muted +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00269-00053839-00054007 they've got some right here for you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00270-00054008-00054182 amazing this could fit in the back of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00271-00054183-00054319 your car you guys +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00272-00054320-00054682 and that's an important piece of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00273-00054683-00054817 information +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00274-00054819-00055191 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00275-00055191-00055375 now this sullivan coffee table is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00276-00055376-00055503 absolutely massive +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00277-00055504-00055679 and i love the color you can see some of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00278-00055679-00055823 the wood grain but it has +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00279-00055824-00056030 really nice clean lines this could look +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00280-00056032-00056230 nice and really any space they've kind +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00281-00056232-00056391 of done it with like a warmer color +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00282-00056391-00056511 palette here and i think it's really +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00283-00056512-00056582 successful +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00284-00056583-00056719 but i think if you want monochrome it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00285-00056720-00056871 would also look great and that's what +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00286-00056872-00056999 you want to get you want to get a coffee +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00287-00057000-00057175 table that's versatile you can use it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00288-00057176-00057359 no matter what your design style is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00289-00057360-00057479 because we're always evolving we're +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00290-00057479-00057671 always changing and we don't always want +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00291-00057672-00057959 to throw away all of our stuff this is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00292-00057960-00058159 the madrone collection and it's so +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00293-00058160-00058319 modern i mean i don't even have to say +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00294-00058320-00058430 that for you to know it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00295-00058432-00058711 just look at these clean lines this is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00296-00058712-00058775 all +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00297-00058776-00059079 leather oh it is so soft so +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00298-00059079-00059303 so soft the seams are really nice +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00299-00059304-00059471 everything is super clean and it just +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00300-00059472-00059647 really works together +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00301-00059648-00059911 they have tons of monochromatic rooms +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00302-00059912-00060007 that you can curate +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00303-00060008-00060142 that's going to look really great in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00304-00060144-00060294 your home they take a lot of the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00305-00060295-00060447 guesswork out of it because they +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00306-00060448-00060591 actually style their showrooms really +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00307-00060591-00060638 well +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00308-00060639-00060823 so you can see in real time how the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00309-00060824-00060959 things pair together +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00310-00060960-00061094 and now let's talk about my absolute +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00311-00061095-00061319 favorite thing i actually came into our +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00312-00061320-00061454 house a few months ago +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00313-00061455-00061606 and i saw this and there was no price +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00314-00061607-00061847 tag on it and i like harass the people +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00315-00061848-00061991 until we could figure out the price +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00316-00061991-00062159 because i love it this is the trough +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00317-00062160-00062359 that i'm always going on and on about +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00318-00062360-00062615 every single one is unique so obviously +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00319-00062616-00062735 it comes from a tree right they're not +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00320-00062736-00062887 trying to make them all look the same +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00321-00062888-00063103 it's all about one-of-a-kind pieces so +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00322-00063104-00063254 this one looks different from mine and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00323-00063255-00063375 there's another one in the showroom that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00324-00063376-00063479 looks completely different +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00325-00063479-00063919 but they look so beautiful to me +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00326-00063920-00064271 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00327-00064272-00064391 something that a lot of people don't +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00328-00064391-00064599 know is that our house actually has +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00329-00064600-00064815 a really great relationship with a ton +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00330-00064816-00065015 of artists now this is a phenomenal +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00331-00065016-00065230 neutral piece and they actually have a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00332-00065232-00065463 collaboration with my absolute favorite +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00333-00065464-00065638 artist if you've ever seen my house i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00334-00065639-00065743 have those massive +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00335-00065744-00065879 caterer bowling paintings while he +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00336-00065880-00066063 actually partners with our house so if +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00337-00066064-00066167 you want to get his artwork +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00338-00066168-00066359 that is the place to do it so they have +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00339-00066360-00066487 so many things that most people don't +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00340-00066488-00066543 know about +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00341-00066544-00066719 but just look through that website and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00342-00066720-00066894 not only are there a ton of modern +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00343-00066895-00067055 elements but they also have a ton of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00344-00067056-00067150 industrial +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00345-00067151-00067431 items i absolutely love this industrial +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00346-00067432-00067479 crank +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00347-00067480-00067711 desk i mean look at the detailing on +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00348-00067712-00067863 this you just want to like get down here +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00349-00067864-00067926 and like +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00350-00067927-00068079 crank this lever i'm not going to do +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00351-00068080-00068255 that because i don't own this desk +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00352-00068256-00068519 but it's super fun and this lamp is also +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00353-00068520-00068726 super cute it's all about the details +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00354-00068727-00068799 right +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00355-00068800-00068975 everyone can get a basic lamp but the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00356-00068976-00069150 details here it is a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00357-00069151-00069350 really nice brushed steel sort of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00358-00069351-00069503 situation there's a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00359-00069504-00069726 curve in the lamp there's just so much +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00360-00069727-00069831 detail that makes it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00361-00069832-00070582 really really cool +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00362-00070583-00070791 and again here's the amily mirror but +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00363-00070792-00070894 this time it's in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00364-00070895-00071482 silver so cute oh my god look at this +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00365-00071483-00071631 tray +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00366-00071632-00071911 oh yeah that's so cute i'd put this on a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00367-00071912-00072071 console you could also put it on a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00368-00072072-00072143 dresser +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00369-00072144-00072294 just a space where you don't need a ton +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00370-00072295-00072438 of decor you just kind of need something +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00371-00072439-00072567 sitting in the center +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00372-00072568-00072806 to really make it pop so great for a +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00373-00072807-00072975 dresser like this one +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00374-00072976-00073159 i'd even do something darker with this +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00375-00073160-00073375 i'd probably do like a nice +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00376-00073376-00073559 like black or even dark brown and it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00377-00073560-00073726 would look great with the marble +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00378-00073727-00074023 hey i love this tree it's really hard to +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00379-00074024-00074231 find a good faux tree and this one +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00380-00074232-00074479 looks pretty real it looks pretty real +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00381-00074480-00074631 if you want a massive birds of paradise +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00382-00074632-00074735 i mean here it is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00383-00074736-00075047 this is me this is the tree this is me +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00384-00075048-00075415 look at me and that's the tree +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00385-00075416-00075982 and it's me +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00386-00075983-00076182 so of course our house has a very new +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00387-00076183-00076375 outdoor collection and half of the stuff +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00388-00076376-00076511 i don't believe is outdoor because i +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00389-00076512-00076679 would put it inside my house i have no +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00390-00076680-00076750 shame in that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00391-00076751-00077055 this is one of the sofas this is the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00392-00077056-00077294 porto sofa and like this is so in right +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00393-00077295-00077479 now you're seeing this with the kelly +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00394-00077480-00077599 wurstler +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00395-00077600-00077838 with the jeremiah brand all of this is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00396-00077839-00077950 really really in right now and then you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00397-00077951-00078079 can put this outside i mean +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00398-00078080-00078262 that's ideal right you can get something +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00399-00078263-00078382 cute for your outdoor space that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00400-00078383-00078511 literally has never happened in the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00401-00078512-00078731 history of the world +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00402-00078732-00079167 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00403-00079168-00079287 something i actually like about our +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00404-00079288-00079423 house they have these dark floors and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00405-00079424-00079543 then they have wooden floors +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00406-00079544-00079631 interspersed +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00407-00079632-00079831 so you can see how things look with like +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00408-00079832-00079991 a more neutral flooring and then with +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00409-00079992-00080103 something that's a little bit more +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00410-00080104-00080326 modern and harsh +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00411-00080327-00080615 and look vessels galore vessels galore +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00412-00080616-00080719 and we love that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00413-00080720-00080950 and again you can see that everything is +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00414-00080951-00081071 a little bit unique +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00415-00081072-00081279 this one has a little bit more red in it +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00416-00081280-00081399 this one has some +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00417-00081400-00081543 green hues there's a little bit more +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00418-00081544-00081719 brown everything's different +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00419-00081720-00081894 there's some diversity in the product so +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00420-00081895-00082023 you can buy two of something +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00421-00082024-00082191 and it still look different which i love +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00422-00082192-00082343 because you know i love symmetry +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00423-00082344-00082682 but with something a little bit +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00424-00082683-00083137 different +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00425-00083138-00083406 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00426-00083407-00083711 and again with the faux trees +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00427-00083712-00083847 look at the detailing on this one of +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00428-00083848-00083959 course we know it's fake because it's +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00429-00083960-00084135 sitting in a corner with no sunlight +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00430-00084136-00084399 but look at this detailing this looks +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00431-00084400-00084599 more like a branch than a real branch +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00432-00084600-00084841 and that's what we love to see +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00433-00084842-00085406 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00434-00085407-00085662 these poofs are so cool and look they +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00435-00085663-00085775 hold their shape +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00436-00085776-00085959 sometimes they'll sit on a poop you know +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00437-00085960-00086150 just topple over this one shape +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00438-00086151-00086367 it holds i love that and then velvet you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00439-00086368-00086567 know you can wipe it this way it looks +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00440-00086568-00086694 different wipe it that way it looks +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00441-00086695-00086759 different +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00442-00086760-00086959 it's just fun to sit around with it adds +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00443-00086960-00087103 a new texture and again +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00444-00087104-00087294 i really like the trimming on all this +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00445-00087295-00087487 stuff because it it just takes it to the +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00446-00087488-00087615 next level i don't know what the level +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00447-00087616-00087871 is but it takes it to the next level +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00448-00087872-00088126 i love like the dual cabinet look that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00449-00088127-00088182 you can do +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00450-00088183-00088391 like in your living room or your office +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00451-00088392-00088559 but sometimes it closes off the space +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00452-00088560-00088687 too much because it's just a closed +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00453-00088688-00088750 cabinet +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00454-00088751-00088967 so i really love the tremolo collection +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00455-00088968-00089062 because it's open +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00456-00089063-00089247 it's still dark you can light it if you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00457-00089248-00089438 want to but it has this nice closed +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00458-00089439-00089591 portion with a little bit of glass so +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00459-00089592-00089647 it's not +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00460-00089648-00089855 as harsh as some other cabinets you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00461-00089856-00090031 might find this one is amazing +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00462-00090032-00090199 you can see the wood grain in every +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00463-00090200-00090350 single light right so you can be like oh +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00464-00090351-00090423 this looks good +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00465-00090424-00090802 no matter the time of day that's +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00466-00090803-00091082 [Music] +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00467-00091083-00091262 important +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00468-00091263-00091503 and you've seen this chunk of wood in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00469-00091504-00091743 like every designer's house recently +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00470-00091744-00091943 and here it is it's right here from our +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00471-00091944-00092167 house it's so intricate and it's a piece +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00472-00092168-00092343 that can stand on its own it's the only +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00473-00092344-00092455 thing on this table +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00474-00092456-00092775 and it is working for me petrified +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00475-00092776-00093015 wood and textured bowls are really in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00476-00093016-00093238 right now even paper mache bowls they're +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00477-00093239-00093303 in +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00478-00093304-00093615 our house has them look at them up here +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00479-00093616-00093871 they're all unique they add so much +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00480-00093872-00093935 texture +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00481-00093936-00094215 so much dimension to any tablescape that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00482-00094216-00094311 you're working with +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00483-00094312-00094447 they have them on the wall and that +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00484-00094448-00094638 works too it's a really +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00485-00094639-00095282 new decorative accent that you don't see +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00486-00095283-00095743 everywhere +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00487-00095744-00095967 guys i had so much fun shopping with you +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00488-00095968-00096118 at our house and of course i went +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00489-00096119-00096279 shopping and i had to bring some things +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00490-00096280-00096359 home too +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00491-00096360-00096679 i got this petrified wood picture frame +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00492-00096680-00096806 which i absolutely love +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00493-00096807-00096967 i'm going to be using that in my guest +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00494-00096968-00097118 from transformation with our house +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00495-00097119-00097423 and then i also got this lotus platter +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00496-00097424-00097671 which is this really cute gold platter +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00497-00097672-00097847 they have it in so many different sizes +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00498-00097848-00098015 so be sure to head over to instagram +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00499-00098016-00098182 where you're going to see me style these +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00500-00098183-00098303 items in my home +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00501-00098304-00098511 it is going to look fantastic and i'm so +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00502-00098512-00098671 grateful for this opportunity +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00503-00098672-00098815 if you liked today's video please be +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00504-00098816-00099023 sure to subscribe like this video and +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00505-00099024-00099150 check me out on instagram +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00506-00099151-00099326 the links to almost everything we saw +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00507-00099327-00099494 today will be down below +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00508-00099495-00099638 let me know what you loved and let me +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00509-00099639-00099782 know we're gonna scoop up soon until +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00510-00099783-00099855 next time +BbEx8-bQOzQ-00511-00099856-00100504 have a beautiful day +Bck8IudzCnc-00000-00000014-00000296 Saturday 8th of September saw another +Bck8IudzCnc-00001-00000297-00000580 building occupied in Dublin as part of +Bck8IudzCnc-00002-00000581-00000956 the take back the city campaign the new +Bck8IudzCnc-00003-00000957-00001256 occupied building is on Belvedere place +Bck8IudzCnc-00004-00001257-00001532 as you can see over a hundred people +Bck8IudzCnc-00005-00001533-00001795 gathered in support of the occupation +Bck8IudzCnc-00006-00001796-00002057 the take back the city campaign +Bck8IudzCnc-00007-00002058-00002324 activists had gathered at the GPO +Bck8IudzCnc-00008-00002325-00002588 earlier that evening and then marched as +Bck8IudzCnc-00009-00002589-00002846 a block up O'Connell Street to the site +Bck8IudzCnc-00010-00002847-00003247 of the current occupation this is the +Bck8IudzCnc-00011-00003248-00003509 third occupation the footage here was +Bck8IudzCnc-00012-00003510-00003697 taken earlier in the week and shows the +Bck8IudzCnc-00013-00003698-00003917 second building occupied which still it +Bck8IudzCnc-00014-00003918-00004160 is still occupied and is on Frederick +Bck8IudzCnc-00015-00004161-00004345 Street not far from the current +Bck8IudzCnc-00016-00004346-00004729 occupation there was a previous round of +Bck8IudzCnc-00017-00004730-00005015 occupations around 2015 all of which +Bck8IudzCnc-00018-00005016-00005261 were evicted these aimed to provide +Bck8IudzCnc-00019-00005262-00005395 accommodation to people +Bck8IudzCnc-00020-00005396-00005588 this was the bolt hostel but this isn't +Bck8IudzCnc-00021-00005589-00005738 footage from 2015 +Bck8IudzCnc-00022-00005739-00006197 this is last week it's still empty these +Bck8IudzCnc-00023-00006198-00006448 occupations are taking place in the +Bck8IudzCnc-00024-00006450-00006680 context of a terrible housing crisis +Bck8IudzCnc-00025-00006681-00006914 that exists in Dublin and other Irish +Bck8IudzCnc-00026-00006915-00007187 cities in Dublin it's probably the case +Bck8IudzCnc-00027-00007188-00007414 that almost everybody is now affected +Bck8IudzCnc-00028-00007415-00007771 Bias rents are sky-high so too are +Bck8IudzCnc-00029-00007772-00007996 property prices but wages for most +Bck8IudzCnc-00030-00007997-00008288 people remain very low a huge man to the +Bck8IudzCnc-00031-00008289-00008537 population are probably spending 50% of +Bck8IudzCnc-00032-00008538-00008860 the popular income on either rent or +Bck8IudzCnc-00033-00008861-00009146 mortgage repayments the rental sector +Bck8IudzCnc-00034-00009147-00009380 has no security attached to it all it's +Bck8IudzCnc-00035-00009381-00009587 easy to evict tenants the legal +Bck8IudzCnc-00036-00009588-00009860 protections are mostly a joke this needs 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out to the theater +BeLu2fPGXdI-00024-00040220-00041086 party title some gentleman +BeLu2fPGXdI-00025-00041087-00042295 - banana - mm sometimes the pastor shall +BeLu2fPGXdI-00026-00042296-00042724 be impertinent I also go online and +BeLu2fPGXdI-00027-00042725-00042940 watch him work okay so call me are +BeLu2fPGXdI-00028-00042941-00043036 identical +BeLu2fPGXdI-00029-00043037-00043259 not one go through Samaria +BeLu2fPGXdI-00030-00043260-00044754 [Music] +BfEgwvqnvTy-00000-00000000-00000034 [Music] +BfEgwvqnvTy-00001-00000035-00000253 foreign +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00000-00000000-00000206 hello everybody welcome back to another +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00001-00000208-00000543 vlog this is actually filmed after the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00002-00000544-00000751 initial first part of this vlog because +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00003-00000752-00000950 i somehow deleted the first couple of +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00004-00000951-00001087 clips of this vlog i don't know how that +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00005-00001088-00001262 happened but i was filming like main +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00006-00001263-00001447 channel stuff i was filming vlog stuff +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00007-00001448-00001663 and somehow it got lost in the mix but +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00008-00001664-00001902 hello welcome this vlog is really fun +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00009-00001903-00002087 because i went to laguna beach for +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00010-00002088-00002279 alexa's birthday and we had so much fun +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00011-00002280-00002502 if you didn't know um i was obsessed +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00012-00002503-00002702 with the show in high school as well as +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00013-00002703-00002863 the hills it was like a central part of +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00014-00002864-00003039 my personality for many years probably +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00015-00003040-00003215 still is to be honest and i've been a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00016-00003215-00003390 few times over the years probably like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00017-00003392-00003606 six or seven times and i just like love +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00018-00003607-00003783 it every single time it's definitely one +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00019-00003784-00004015 of my happy places for sure so yeah the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00020-00004015-00004270 day that i started this vlog basically i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00021-00004271-00004447 just like packed up the car got ready +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00022-00004448-00004647 drove out to laguna and we drove +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00023-00004648-00004863 immediately to a thrift store so it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00024-00004864-00005047 kind of become like a tradition of ours +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00025-00005048-00005247 to go to this one thrift store in +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00026-00005248-00005422 fountain valley and do like a little +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00027-00005423-00005695 thrifting video um before we like go on +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00028-00005696-00005870 our relaxing trip so this trip was +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00029-00005871-00006047 actually booked for back in may i'm +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00030-00006048-00006175 pretty sure i mentioned it a couple +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00031-00006176-00006343 times in vlogs but essentially like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00032-00006344-00006542 there was a fire in laguna or pretty +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00033-00006543-00006751 close by i was in laguna niguel which is +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00034-00006752-00006951 like a neighboring town and it was too +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00035-00006952-00007214 late at night for us to like decide if +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00036-00007215-00007455 it was safe to go or not so we ended up +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00037-00007456-00007639 like postponing the trip because we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00038-00007640-00007823 weren't allowed to cancel it the hotel +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00039-00007823-00007998 like doesn't let you cancel or you lose +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00040-00008000-00008191 your money but they did let us postpone +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00041-00008192-00008310 it so we were like let's just postpone +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00042-00008311-00008471 it for your birthday anyways so that +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00043-00008472-00008631 time is now so let's rewind it back to a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00044-00008632-00008903 couple days ago when i headed in the car +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00045-00008904-00009103 drove to the thrift store finished my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00046-00009104-00009310 thrifting video with alexa and then this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00047-00009311-00009618 is where it leaves off +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00048-00009619-00011038 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00049-00011039-00011167 that thrift store that we went to is +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00050-00011168-00011359 like a mile away from a plant power it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00051-00011360-00011599 like a vegan fast food place and it's so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00052-00011600-00011751 freaking good i think the first time i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00053-00011752-00011910 went oh thank you i think the first time +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00054-00011911-00012127 i went was when i was in san diego and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00055-00012128-00012287 either sierra brought me for the first +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00056-00012288-00012478 time or skyler and i've loved it ever +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00057-00012479-00012759 since it's delicious it's so so good so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00058-00012760-00012951 i got the big zach which is like their +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00059-00012952-00013158 big mac and it has fries and i got a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00060-00013159-00013335 lemonade alexa got a chocolate shake +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00061-00013336-00013458 that looks +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00062-00013459-00013791 unbelievable it's vegan delish so here's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00063-00013791-00013958 the big zach +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00064-00013959-00014166 and it's gigantic i will never eat all +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00065-00014168-00014343 of it so i don't really know why i got +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00066-00014344-00014607 it and then a big thing of fries honey +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00067-00014608-00014822 mustard oh here's your ketchup thank you +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00068-00014823-00015086 of course naturally sorry i keep kicking +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00069-00015087-00015255 it thanks you're just trying to play +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00070-00015256-00015366 footy +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00071-00015368-00015537 so excited +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00072-00015538-00017030 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00073-00017031-00017192 hello +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00074-00017193-00018414 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00075-00018415-00018622 good morning everybody from our room in +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00076-00018623-00018903 laguna we got here last night i just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00077-00018904-00019135 woke up like 30 minutes ago i don't +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00078-00019136-00019279 really think i've talked yet except to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00079-00019280-00019607 say hi to alexa it's 6 45 a.m alexa and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00080-00019608-00019814 i went to bed at like 10 last night +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00081-00019815-00019967 that's why i love these trips with her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00082-00019968-00020175 we both say that like we travel so well +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00083-00020176-00020350 together because we have like the same +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00084-00020351-00020527 schedule +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00085-00020528-00020719 i brought something for a main channel +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00086-00020720-00021014 video possibly and it's talking anyways +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00087-00021015-00021335 we got in around like 6 6 30 last night +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00088-00021336-00021558 and we just like hung out we ended up +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00089-00021559-00021663 filming +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00090-00021664-00021855 our like haul portions of the thrift +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00091-00021856-00022047 videos out on the balcony with like the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00092-00022048-00022214 ocean waves in the background and stuff +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00093-00022215-00022447 and it was so beautiful and we literally +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00094-00022448-00022630 just like chilled in here we just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00095-00022631-00022775 because we had already eaten dinner we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00096-00022776-00022983 just laid in our beds and like talked +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00097-00022984-00023247 and it was so nice like so chill we were +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00098-00023248-00023439 both so relaxed we had like the sliding +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00099-00023440-00023607 door open with screenshot and we were +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00100-00023608-00023791 just like listening to the ocean we were +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00101-00023792-00023878 like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00102-00023879-00024127 i'm so happy so today is like our only +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00103-00024128-00024311 full day here in laguna so i think we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00104-00024312-00024558 might do like some laying out maybe some +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00105-00024559-00024671 shopping i don't know what we're gonna +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00106-00024672-00024903 get up to but alexa went to starbucks +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00107-00024904-00025071 really quick she's definitely like a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00108-00025072-00025327 coffee first thing in the morning +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00109-00025328-00025550 oh my god anyway that's what we're +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00110-00025551-00025727 getting up to today and i just feel so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00111-00025727-00025927 freaking grateful i just finished my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00112-00025927-00026127 like morning gratitude in my five minute +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00113-00026127-00026423 journal and i'm just feeling so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00114-00026424-00026670 grateful so happy to be here we're up in +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00115-00026672-00026911 adam it's a little while later and we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00116-00026912-00027118 just changed and got ready to go on a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00117-00027119-00027287 nice little hike look how cute she +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00118-00027288-00027439 looked +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00119-00027439-00027670 here's a little goblin in the background +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00120-00027672-00027879 this is basically gonna be a repeat of +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00121-00027880-00028070 the vlog from the last time we were here +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00122-00028072-00028199 we're gonna probably do all the same +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00123-00028200-00028527 things hopefully i don't have um +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00124-00028527-00028735 some bowel issues this time +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00125-00028736-00028935 like i did last time but um we're gonna +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00126-00028936-00029130 go on a hike and we're excited +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00127-00029131-00029567 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00128-00029568-00029758 it's hard to kind of see from here but +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00129-00029760-00029967 this is like the middle school +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00130-00029968-00030255 and that's the ocean right here so just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00131-00030256-00030470 imagine like walking out +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00132-00030472-00030662 you know of your school and that's your +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00133-00030663-00030751 view +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00134-00030752-00031007 like i just literally can't even imagine +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00135-00031008-00031462 i have to live here someday yeah +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00136-00031463-00031711 i wish i would have i think i got the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00137-00031712-00031967 tail end of that +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00138-00031968-00032118 all right we've been i don't even know +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00139-00032119-00032279 what clips are gonna be in the vlog what +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00140-00032280-00032407 clips are gonna be in a main channel +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00141-00032408-00032718 video but um alexa has never heard +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00142-00032719-00032943 august by taylor swift and today's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00143-00032944-00033135 august second so you i let you get away +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00144-00033136-00033359 with it for a full day +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00145-00033360-00033487 but i was like we have to listen to it +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00146-00033488-00033639 in the car she has an open mind she's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00147-00033640-00033823 like a non-swifty she's not like anti +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00148-00033824-00034015 taylor swift but she's not a swifty yeah +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00149-00034016-00034246 so we're gonna play it for her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00150-00034247-00034383 and her life is gonna change i told her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00151-00034384-00034574 this is this is the last moments of her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00152-00034575-00034783 life pre-august +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00153-00034784-00034927 well now it's so funny because like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00154-00034928-00035079 everyone's posting about it and i have +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00155-00035080-00035262 like actively +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00156-00035263-00035423 i always have my sound off but it's like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00157-00035424-00035639 i've actively just never actually no i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00158-00035640-00035830 heard it absolutely no idea so she has +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00159-00035831-00036030 no clue what to expect we have to make +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00160-00036031-00036351 sure everything is perfect +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00161-00036352-00036471 oh i get it +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00162-00036472-00037306 you get it already +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00163-00037307-00038159 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00164-00038160-00038383 we're now sitting down to eat brunch and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00165-00038384-00038551 alexa i have to ask you an important +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00166-00038552-00038687 question +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00167-00038688-00038911 what did you think of august i get it +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00168-00038912-00039118 i'd like it yeah yeah she wasn't just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00169-00039119-00039335 saying that either i made sure to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00170-00039336-00039583 her reaction just in case but she liked +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00171-00039584-00039743 it yeah i think she enjoyed my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00172-00039744-00040030 performance as well +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00173-00040031-00040215 i like the different levels +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00174-00040216-00040430 like you know it's more calm and she's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00175-00040431-00040639 just like does she really remember when +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00176-00040640-00040983 i was going up +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00177-00040984-00042775 august forever +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00178-00042776-00043151 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00179-00043152-00043575 oh +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00180-00043576-00045855 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00181-00045856-00046007 honestly +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00182-00046008-00046561 i don't care what we do +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00183-00046562-00047558 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00184-00047559-00047951 how about we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00185-00047952-00048479 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00186-00048480-00048689 just like this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00187-00048690-00049054 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00188-00049055-00049215 [Applause] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00189-00049216-00049590 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00190-00049591-00049839 good morning it's wednesday and it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00191-00049840-00050086 somebody's birthday today +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00192-00050087-00050262 so excited we're celebrating her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00193-00050263-00050423 birthday this morning because her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00194-00050424-00050599 husband has an orthodontist appointment +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00195-00050600-00050807 this morning so he's doing his he's got +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00196-00050808-00050927 yeah he's doing his thing for like the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00197-00050928-00051071 first half of the day so i've got her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00198-00051072-00051279 for another couple hours and we're gonna +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00199-00051279-00051575 go get some smoothie bowls we had such a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00200-00051576-00051863 good day yesterday it was so nice it was +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00201-00051864-00052087 so like wholesome and cute and we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00202-00052088-00052366 actually went to this um smoothie bowl +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00203-00052367-00052575 place the last time we were here and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00204-00052576-00052815 it's across from surf and sport if you +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00205-00052816-00053015 know you know if you're a laguna beach +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00206-00053016-00053279 fan tv show we're walking past it right +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00207-00053279-00053415 now i'll show it in a minute but i'm +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00208-00053416-00053559 gonna get some smoothie bowls and then +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00209-00053560-00053759 go to a beach we've never been to before +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00210-00053760-00053903 seen a lot of people talk about it it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00211-00053904-00054159 called thousand steps beach and we're +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00212-00054160-00054311 excited to check it out +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00213-00054312-00054438 if you know +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00214-00054439-00054750 you absolutely know +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00215-00054751-00054846 love you steven +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00216-00054847-00055471 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00217-00055472-00055671 got our smoothie bowls and first they +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00218-00055672-00055863 gave them to us with no toppings and we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00219-00055864-00056015 were like oh hey can we get the toppings +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00220-00056016-00056215 that come on it and they gave us each +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00221-00056216-00056559 four slices of banana +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00222-00056560-00056815 but it's gonna be delicious +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00223-00056816-00056999 i know i said this during the last vlog +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00224-00057000-00057199 like when we were here a year ago but +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00225-00057200-00057423 this hotel right here right up at the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00226-00057424-00057694 top is where lauren and jason had their +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00227-00057695-00057815 first date +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00228-00057816-00058079 on laguna beach if you remember +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00229-00058079-00058279 and he like picked her up in his dad's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00230-00058279-00058582 vintage car and they drove to a date and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00231-00058583-00059117 that was it okay +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00232-00059119-00060863 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00233-00060864-00060982 they weren't kidding about those +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00234-00060983-00061182 thousand steps were they and every +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00235-00061183-00061471 single person was out of breath +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00236-00061472-00061711 people there was one girl she was ripped +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00237-00061712-00061911 and her face was so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00238-00061912-00062103 red i mean we're pretty sure that she +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00239-00062104-00062238 like did it multiple times like running +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00240-00062239-00062430 up and down but like we only did it once +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00241-00062432-00062503 yeah +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00242-00062504-00062735 and once was enough +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00243-00062736-00062926 so now we're back home i actually didn't +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00244-00062927-00063142 even like think to finish filming like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00245-00063144-00063326 or say a goodbye clip with alexa because +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00246-00063327-00063519 we were just like living our lives but +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00247-00063520-00063750 it was such a nice trip it was so so fun +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00248-00063751-00063935 to be able to do this again and like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00249-00063936-00064063 it's definitely going to be a tradition +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00250-00064064-00064294 for us and we just had so much good +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00251-00064295-00064454 quality friend time together it was +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00252-00064455-00064623 amazing i feel like she's like a little +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00253-00064624-00064830 sister to me i just adore her she just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00254-00064832-00065015 deserves the best so if you're not +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00255-00065016-00065215 subscribed to her definitely check her +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00256-00065216-00065399 out her link is going to be down below +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00257-00065400-00065638 she's just the sweetest literal actual +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00258-00065639-00065799 sunshine and i'm just so lucky to have a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00259-00065800-00066047 friend like her but now we are back it +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00260-00066048-00066311 is thursday i've got a couple packages +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00261-00066312-00066559 to open and i also want to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00262-00066560-00066743 redecorate not redecorate but like kind +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00263-00066744-00066935 of fix up this room a little bit because +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00264-00066936-00067094 this is basically like my filming +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00265-00067095-00067255 background right now and there's nothing +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00266-00067256-00067415 wrong with it it's super cute but i just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00267-00067416-00067591 kind of wanted to add some extra stuff +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00268-00067592-00067711 to the walls it was just feeling a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00269-00067712-00067911 little bit bare to me and i kind of like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00270-00067912-00068111 that sort of like maximalist look on the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00271-00068112-00068343 walls at least for when i'm filming so i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00272-00068344-00068550 ordered a few things on urban outfitters +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00273-00068551-00068671 they're not my favorite i'm not gonna +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00274-00068672-00068863 lie like they don't have the best ethics +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00275-00068864-00069063 i like swore off ordering from there for +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00276-00069064-00069231 a while but sometimes they have really +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00277-00069232-00069399 cute home decor stuff so i decided to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00278-00069400-00069543 just bite the bullet and order a few +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00279-00069544-00069671 things and then i have like a couple +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00280-00069672-00069831 thrifted things to hang up as well so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00281-00069832-00069975 we're gonna like mix and match and just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00282-00069976-00070206 kind of like spruce up this area so that +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00283-00070207-00070382 hopefully i just feel a little bit more +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00284-00070383-00070559 inspired by it when i'm filming because +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00285-00070560-00070679 i'm just not really loving like my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00286-00070680-00070823 filming background right now so that's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00287-00070824-00070982 what we're gonna do and then other than +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00288-00070983-00071111 that i'm just kind of trying to like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00289-00071112-00071279 reset after a trip you know i was only +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00290-00071280-00071406 gone for like i think it was less than +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00291-00071407-00071575 48 hours but just like getting my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00292-00071576-00071743 laundry done and like usually i do this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00293-00071744-00071887 right when i get home but i'm not gonna +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00294-00071888-00072023 lie yesterday i just came home and like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00295-00072024-00072206 took a nap because no matter what like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00296-00072207-00072479 introverts you feel me like the second i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00297-00072480-00072631 am social for more than five minutes i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00298-00072632-00072775 literally need like an entire day to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00299-00072776-00073015 recover so anyways i guess i can show +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00300-00073016-00073335 you the package that i got i'm actually +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00301-00073336-00073519 oh god i'm actually like trying to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00302-00073520-00073671 remember what it looks like because i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00303-00073672-00073847 ordered it a while ago but it's from a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00304-00073848-00074006 brand oh playlist here by the way it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00305-00074007-00074238 from a brand called oddly and i saw +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00306-00074239-00074526 someone mention this shirt on their +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00307-00074527-00074806 instagram oh wow this is not what i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00308-00074807-00075087 expected it's like a sweatshirt but +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00309-00075088-00075303 regardless it's like a little baby tee +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00310-00075304-00075926 style shirt and it says +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00311-00075927-00076199 and like 50 of the proceeds for this go +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00312-00076200-00076391 to different like abortion funds and i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00313-00076392-00076503 just thought that was really cool and i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00314-00076504-00076623 wanted to support it i think there's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00315-00076624-00076767 like a little thing in here yeah thank +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00316-00076768-00076982 you for supporting the my body tease and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00317-00076983-00077175 nnaf excited for you to have this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00318-00077176-00077319 special piece each one is unique with +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00319-00077320-00077423 different letters and is made from +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00320-00077424-00077615 sustainable dead stock fabrics in los +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00321-00077616-00077838 angeles oddly so that's so cool i don't +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00322-00077839-00078167 know if i love like the actual fabric +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00323-00078168-00078447 like it literally feels like a towel on +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00324-00078448-00078582 the inside and it feels like really +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00325-00078583-00078799 rough but overall it looks really cute +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00326-00078800-00078926 and i thought it was white but it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00327-00078927-00079111 actually like a cream color but i'm +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00328-00079112-00079262 still gonna rock it like i absolutely +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00329-00079263-00079455 love that so yeah and i paid my own +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00330-00079456-00079591 money for this it was extremely +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00331-00079592-00079903 expensive it was 100 for a t-shirt but i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00332-00079904-00080079 wanted to buy it number one because it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00333-00080080-00080206 a cute shirt but number two because it +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00334-00080207-00080399 goes for towards a good cause you know +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00335-00080400-00080567 so there's that do i have another +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00336-00080568-00080759 package oh this one i actually kind of +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00337-00080760-00081015 argued this one is from outdoor voices +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00338-00081016-00081294 and if you watched my main channel video +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00339-00081295-00081447 where i tested out a bunch of different +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00340-00081448-00081719 exercise dresses uh that they were just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00341-00081720-00081959 it just wasn't perfect and i went to go +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00342-00081960-00082143 return this one which was called like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00343-00082144-00082350 the ditsy butterfly print i think and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00344-00082351-00082503 it's this like gorgeous it says it's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00345-00082504-00082671 black but to me it looks blue i don't +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00346-00082672-00082943 know but it's this pretty exercise dress +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00347-00082944-00083135 and i ordered it in my usual size which +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00348-00083136-00083303 was an extra large and it was just too +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00349-00083304-00083494 tight and too short and when i went to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00350-00083495-00083679 go return it there was an option to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00351-00083680-00083967 exchange it for another size so i did +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00352-00083968-00084294 exchange it for a double xl and i think +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00353-00084295-00084543 it's gonna just have to do the shorts +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00354-00084544-00084735 that are in it are definitely too short +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00355-00084736-00084982 like that inseam is what two inches +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00356-00084983-00085262 probably like it's not that long but i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00357-00085263-00085447 think we can make it work i think either +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00358-00085448-00085623 i can put other shorts over it or +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00359-00085624-00085823 whatever but it's just such a freaking +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00360-00085824-00086062 cute dress like this with my hookahs +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00361-00086063-00086255 it's gonna be so cute so yeah that's my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00362-00086256-00086559 little mini haul so okay i thrifted this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00363-00086560-00086711 when i was in orange county this is like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00364-00086712-00086847 a cute little clock that i want to hang +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00365-00086848-00087015 on the wall somewhere in here that's +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00366-00087016-00087231 like a sneak peek for something i got um +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00367-00087232-00087471 in my thrifting video that i just filmed +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00368-00087472-00087647 and then i'll go and like show you all +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00369-00087648-00087838 the urban outfitters stuff don't come +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00370-00087839-00087999 for me i just that's just what i thought +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00371-00088000-00088255 was cute it's like super cloudy outside +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00372-00088256-00088471 so it's kind of dark in here but i got +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00373-00088472-00088647 just a couple things for like either the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00374-00088648-00088918 bathroom or our bedroom or whatever i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00375-00088919-00089231 got this tapestry that says take it easy +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00376-00089232-00089406 i got this little tapestry that has a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00377-00089407-00089559 bunch of like mushrooms on it it's kind +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00378-00089560-00089743 of like a little um what do you call +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00379-00089744-00090055 this it's not like a banner but whatever +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00380-00090056-00090135 it's got like a bunch of different +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00381-00090136-00090255 mushrooms so i thought that could go in +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00382-00090256-00090447 our bedroom i got a couple different +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00383-00090448-00090631 shelves i don't know if these are gonna +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00384-00090632-00090799 be too heavy it says that they're only +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00385-00090800-00090982 like a pound so i'm gonna try to do +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00386-00090983-00091175 these with command hooks but i got this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00387-00091176-00091382 one and then i also got this one that +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00388-00091383-00091567 has like the checker so i figured like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00389-00091568-00091750 one of these could go in my filming area +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00390-00091751-00091959 one could go in the bathroom i got this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00391-00091960-00092191 cute little like daisy chain +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00392-00092192-00092367 thing it's kind of like a i don't know +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00393-00092368-00092559 it's just like a wall hanging so that'll +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00394-00092560-00092750 be cute in the filming area i got this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00395-00092751-00092887 huge +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00396-00092888-00093087 tapestry i did not know it was this big +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00397-00093088-00093350 but we'll roll with it i got this cool +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00398-00093351-00093518 this is my favorite andrew's favorite as +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00399-00093519-00093655 well it's like a tiger tapestry i think +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00400-00093656-00093838 we're gonna hang this in the living room +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00401-00093839-00094062 maybe we'll see and then we got this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00402-00094063-00094191 little mirror +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00403-00094192-00094367 so cute it's like this little i think +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00404-00094368-00094559 it's called like a bean shaped mirror +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00405-00094560-00094743 which how perfect is that and i was +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00406-00094744-00095071 thinking maybe even like right here +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00407-00095072-00095231 kind of an awkward angle but i think +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00408-00095232-00095406 maybe like right here on this gallery +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00409-00095407-00095631 wall it'll be cute so we'll see okay +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00410-00095632-00095806 we'll start here in my bedroom with this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00411-00095807-00095982 cute little thing why can't i not think +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00412-00095983-00096167 of what this is called right now +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00413-00096168-00096367 whatever it's adorable it matches like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00414-00096368-00096503 our other little tapestries in here +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00415-00096504-00096774 which are flowers and butterflies and it +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00416-00096775-00096974 just it's kind of cute so keep in mind +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00417-00096975-00097143 we have to use command +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00418-00097144-00097367 stuff for this entire house it's going +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00419-00097368-00097599 to be kind of difficult but i think we +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00420-00097600-00097918 can figure it out +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00421-00097919-00098318 oh there's no way +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00422-00098319-00098567 so perfect drew +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00423-00098568-00098782 can you come tell me if this is straight +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00424-00098783-00099126 well that looks terrible just kidding +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00425-00099127-00099271 we will come back to her because drew +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00426-00099272-00099438 has to he's in a meeting and he has to +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00427-00099439-00099638 go back to it but um we'll fix her later +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00428-00099639-00099791 and i need to be taller for that so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00429-00099792-00100218 that's the general idea +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00430-00100219-00101879 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00431-00101880-00102138 alabama oh +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00432-00102139-00102465 alabama on monday +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00433-00102466-00104105 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00434-00104106-00105678 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00435-00105679-00105902 okay after much moving around and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00436-00105903-00106175 rearranging here is sort of what i've +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00437-00106176-00106423 come up with i think it's a lot better +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00438-00106424-00106599 it's a lot more stuff going on on the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00439-00106600-00106734 walls and i just think it looks really +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00440-00106735-00106934 really cool i love a gallery wall moment +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00441-00106935-00107054 you'll be able to tell that throughout +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00442-00107055-00107247 my house it's like kind of a phase that +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00443-00107248-00107439 i'm in right now so i just love having +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00444-00107440-00107686 it be kind of funkier this i got an +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00445-00107688-00107919 estate sale for a dollar this drew and i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00446-00107920-00108183 thrifted this i think was from amazon a +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00447-00108183-00108439 couple years ago that i thrifted these +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00448-00108440-00108566 are from urban +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00449-00108567-00108758 this mirror was from urban this is +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00450-00108759-00109015 thrifted it's a little too heavy to hang +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00451-00109016-00109143 on top of +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00452-00109144-00109310 like i was gonna put it down here but +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00453-00109311-00109486 it's too heavy to hang on top of like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00454-00109488-00109678 those command strip things so it's just +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00455-00109679-00109863 gonna have to stay there for now same +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00456-00109864-00110039 goes for this mirror this mirror is so +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00457-00110040-00110223 so cute but it's too heavy to hang on +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00458-00110224-00110463 the wall and then this tapestry and this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00459-00110464-00110615 little thing are from urban so that's my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00460-00110616-00110863 little my little haul pretty stinking +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00461-00110864-00111071 cute i'm actually quite pleased with +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00462-00111072-00111263 that i will still definitely be on the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00463-00111264-00111486 hunt for more things like thrifted and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00464-00111488-00111686 just kind of like funkier pieces but i +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00465-00111688-00111895 do like where this is going i'm happy +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00466-00111896-00112127 with it i'd love to get like a real tree +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00467-00112128-00112319 in here i don't know we'll see i also +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00468-00112320-00112471 have the rest of the house to decorate +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00469-00112472-00112631 we have an entire wall in the living +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00470-00112632-00112799 room we have our bedroom still we have +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00471-00112800-00113007 our bathroom so like there's definitely +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00472-00113008-00113207 going to be more sort of like vintage +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00473-00113208-00113423 and thrifted decor to come but this like +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00474-00113424-00113502 this +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00475-00113503-00113807 this satisfies the itch it makes me feel +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00476-00113808-00114063 less like this area is plain and boring +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00477-00114064-00114223 and i'm like excited to start filming in +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00478-00114224-00114447 here so my laundry is about to go off +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00479-00114448-00114631 and the dishes are almost done in the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00480-00114632-00114823 dishwasher so i'm gonna go spend the +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00481-00114824-00115102 rest of my day like just unwinding +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00482-00115103-00115310 resetting but thank you so much for +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00483-00115311-00115486 being here for watching this vlog i hope +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00484-00115488-00115815 you enjoyed it thank you so so much for +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00485-00115816-00116031 allowing this to be my job and and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00486-00116032-00116207 giving me the opportunity to do things +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00487-00116208-00116383 like going to laguna beach with my +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00488-00116383-00116639 friend and making it a business trip and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00489-00116640-00116886 also a relaxation vacation trip like i'm +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00490-00116888-00117158 just i'm so so grateful for you all you +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00491-00117159-00117390 have no idea so thank you if i haven't +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00492-00117391-00117583 told you in a while i'm so so glad +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00493-00117583-00117695 you're here thank you for watching and +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00494-00117696-00117878 supporting me and i will see you very +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00495-00117879-00118159 soon in the next vlog bye +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00496-00118160-00119602 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00497-00119603-00120343 [Music] +BiQ-vGiTgj4-00498-00120344-00120552 you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00000-00001381-00001747 hello and welcome to this new center of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00001-00001748-00001966 machining which is called the abrasive +BjVoGFpyiyU-00002-00001967-00002296 waterjet cutting system on my left here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00003-00002297-00002662 is a machine which is also better known +BjVoGFpyiyU-00004-00002663-00003001 as 2652 jet machining Center which is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00005-00003002-00003363 actually able to cut steel sheets as +BjVoGFpyiyU-00006-00003364-00003613 thick as about 40 to 50 mm using a water +BjVoGFpyiyU-00007-00003614-00003906 jet and this jet is fired at a very high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00008-00003907-00004150 velocity at a reasonably high level of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00009-00004151-00004378 pressure and there is a mixing of pre +BjVoGFpyiyU-00010-00004379-00004558 mixing between the jet and some sand +BjVoGFpyiyU-00011-00004559-00004810 particles or garnet particles which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00012-00004811-00005031 would lead to some kind of a abrasive +BjVoGFpyiyU-00013-00005032-00005245 base to wearing and brittle fracture on +BjVoGFpyiyU-00014-00005246-00005419 the surface I think in my lecturers +BjVoGFpyiyU-00015-00005420-00005641 earlier I had lustrated how a abrasive +BjVoGFpyiyU-00016-00005642-00005836 jet machining process works let's recall +BjVoGFpyiyU-00017-00005837-00006045 that so what I told you is that there is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00018-00006046-00006340 going to be a high velocity high impact +BjVoGFpyiyU-00019-00006341-00006570 particle which can strike a surface make +BjVoGFpyiyU-00020-00006572-00006753 an impact and create a brittle fracture +BjVoGFpyiyU-00021-00006754-00006943 okay and this brittle fracture would be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00022-00006944-00007177 subsequently removed by a gush of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00023-00007178-00007345 wind or air which carries these +BjVoGFpyiyU-00024-00007345-00007612 particles in this case the air which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00025-00007613-00007842 otherwise is in a ajm system is replaced +BjVoGFpyiyU-00026-00007843-00008101 by a high-speed jet of water and that's +BjVoGFpyiyU-00027-00008102-00008299 why it is called water abrasive jet +BjVoGFpyiyU-00028-00008300-00008677 machining process so let us describe the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00029-00008678-00009013 system in a little more details from an +BjVoGFpyiyU-00030-00009014-00009199 engineering application to let you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00031-00009200-00009373 about how the machining is carried out +BjVoGFpyiyU-00032-00009374-00010053 in this particular Center cut up so you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00033-00010054-00010299 if you can see the various parts on this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00034-00010300-00010449 particular machine the first thing for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00035-00010450-00010726 me to share is this container here which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00036-00010727-00010996 is called the abrasive hopper and you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00037-00010997-00011344 have these sort of you know brownish +BjVoGFpyiyU-00038-00011345-00011560 kind of material of a certain grit size +BjVoGFpyiyU-00039-00011561-00011791 and this is called garnet okay so it's +BjVoGFpyiyU-00040-00011792-00011988 actually silicate it is a sort of sand +BjVoGFpyiyU-00041-00011989-00012174 of aluminum and other few other +BjVoGFpyiyU-00042-00012175-00012378 materials and it has a very high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00043-00012379-00012694 hardness value about 6 to 5 to 6 on a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00044-00012695-00013038 more scale and it also has further +BjVoGFpyiyU-00045-00013039-00013246 sizes in the range of a few tens of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00046-00013247-00013540 microns okay and so this is basically a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00047-00013541-00013990 field unit for the loosely unit loosely +BjVoGFpyiyU-00048-00013991-00014278 otherwise held this garnet which would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00049-00014279-00014521 by gravity action be fed into the nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00050-00014522-00014683 and I will show that later how this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00051-00014684-00014880 feeding happens in the mixing efforts so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00052-00014881-00015105 this is first part of the machine the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00053-00015106-00015297 second part of course is the stage that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00054-00015298-00015603 you can see here this actually is an XYZ +BjVoGFpyiyU-00055-00015604-00015813 stage where there is a capability which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00056-00015815-00016011 is driven by a controller and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00057-00016012-00016318 controller again is having an input data +BjVoGFpyiyU-00058-00016319-00016497 from a CAD file or a computer-aided +BjVoGFpyiyU-00059-00016498-00016725 design file and so this whole machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00060-00016726-00017302 cut Carlo vodka yep my square has a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00061-00017303-00017530 point Karuna to each my focus karna +BjVoGFpyiyU-00062-00017531-00018105 camera so the the XYZ stage again is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00063-00018106-00018333 operated by a means of motors and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00064-00018334-00018605 controller and the controller itself is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00065-00018606-00018936 connected to a PC a personal computer +BjVoGFpyiyU-00066-00018937-00019135 unit here which you can see on this side +BjVoGFpyiyU-00067-00019136-00019797 and cut so the controller is actually a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00068-00019798-00020058 part of this personal computer here and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00069-00020059-00020328 you can see that there is a capability +BjVoGFpyiyU-00070-00020329-00020544 to handle CAD files in this particular +BjVoGFpyiyU-00071-00020545-00020769 PC the motherboard of the PC is kept +BjVoGFpyiyU-00072-00020770-00020953 somewhere here and there is a control +BjVoGFpyiyU-00073-00020954-00021121 panel which is at the back side of this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00074-00021122-00021292 particular PC which would be responsible +BjVoGFpyiyU-00075-00021293-00021592 for giving the x y&z motions to the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00076-00021593-00021831 various motion controllers which are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00077-00021832-00022080 there on the stage based on the software +BjVoGFpyiyU-00078-00022081-00022249 which is operating in this particular +BjVoGFpyiyU-00079-00022250-00022497 computer so having said that let us now +BjVoGFpyiyU-00080-00022498-00022825 focus to the machine bed this right here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00081-00022826-00022978 is the bed of the machine where all the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00082-00022979-00023175 machining operation takes place I think +BjVoGFpyiyU-00083-00023176-00023355 I had illustrated earlier that this term +BjVoGFpyiyU-00084-00023356-00023655 26:52 means that a bed is about 26 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00085-00023656-00024040 inches in breadth and about 52 inches in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00086-00024041-00024234 length so that's about the size of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00087-00024235-00024465 maximum work piece that can be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00088-00024466-00024603 accommodated in this particular machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00089-00024604-00024952 and also it indicates that this is the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00090-00024953-00025206 span over which the whole nozzle would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00091-00025207-00025489 be able to move okay so it can move in a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00092-00025490-00025586 region +BjVoGFpyiyU-00093-00025587-00025903 as an area of 26 inches and 52 inches so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00094-00025904-00026134 this right here as you can see in the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00095-00026135-00026440 bottom right here is the normal okay and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00096-00026441-00026702 the nozzle is having a small fine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00097-00026702-00026995 orifice of the diameter of about 700 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00098-00026997-00027242 microns in this particular case in fact +BjVoGFpyiyU-00099-00027243-00027398 the nozzle if you look at and I would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00100-00027399-00027583 like to illustrate to a drawing which I +BjVoGFpyiyU-00101-00027585-00027814 have for this particular nozzle so this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00102-00027816-00028085 is the sectional view of the Mosel okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00103-00028086-00028312 and you can see that there are two +BjVoGFpyiyU-00104-00028313-00028540 aspects of this nozzle there is a zone +BjVoGFpyiyU-00105-00028541-00028837 here which is in blue which is actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00106-00028838-00029180 the mixing zone for the high-pressure +BjVoGFpyiyU-00107-00029181-00029543 water and the abrasive in fact there is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00108-00029544-00029723 a track here which can be seen in a very +BjVoGFpyiyU-00109-00029724-00029914 fine track in this particular size which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00110-00029916-00030133 shows how the abrasive is getting into +BjVoGFpyiyU-00111-00030135-00030368 this particular zone here where the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00112-00030369-00030743 mixing is happening and the the idea is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00113-00030744-00030974 that the water is shot at a very high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00114-00030975-00031289 velocity across this small region which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00115-00031289-00031526 is also like a drill orifice okay and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00116-00031527-00031679 this orifice has a diameter of about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00117-00031680-00032062 close to 300 microns and it has a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00118-00032063-00032333 capability of giving a high velocity +BjVoGFpyiyU-00119-00032333-00032507 because naturally the area has reduced +BjVoGFpyiyU-00120-00032508-00032720 and if we were to maintain the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00121-00032720-00033032 continuity Theory the velocity which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00122-00033033-00033239 comes out of this nozzle is a very high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00123-00033240-00033482 about 770 meters per second velocity +BjVoGFpyiyU-00124-00033483-00033698 okay so this is about the kind of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00125-00033699-00033908 velocity is that the water hits upon so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00126-00033909-00034061 at this particular velocity naturally +BjVoGFpyiyU-00127-00034062-00034246 the pressure by Bernoulli's equation in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00128-00034247-00034451 this region is quite low and therefore +BjVoGFpyiyU-00129-00034452-00034655 there is a tendency of the aggressive to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00130-00034656-00034858 sort of get pumped and well mixed into +BjVoGFpyiyU-00131-00034859-00035071 the extreme jet which is at such a high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00132-00035072-00035417 velocity so this particular green view +BjVoGFpyiyU-00133-00035418-00035639 which follows this blue region is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00134-00035640-00035887 actually the discharge view and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00135-00035888-00036239 discharge to further accelerates the the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00136-00036240-00036446 water but then because of the smaller +BjVoGFpyiyU-00137-00036447-00036611 diameter of the tube there is a huge +BjVoGFpyiyU-00138-00036612-00036796 amount of wall friction which the jet +BjVoGFpyiyU-00139-00036797-00036968 faces and at the end of the day there is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00140-00036969-00037183 a loss in energy and there is a initial +BjVoGFpyiyU-00141-00037184-00037385 velocity at the rate of about five +BjVoGFpyiyU-00142-00037386-00037580 hundred thirty meters per second which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00143-00037581-00037802 is actually this velocity of the spray +BjVoGFpyiyU-00144-00037803-00038087 okay or the jet which comes out now the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00145-00038088-00038293 pressure that was necessary to create +BjVoGFpyiyU-00146-00038294-00038480 such a velocity in the small orifice +BjVoGFpyiyU-00147-00038481-00038741 okay with goes to about 40,000 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00148-00038742-00039104 sigh about 40k KP a and the kiloPascals +BjVoGFpyiyU-00149-00039105-00039374 and this is done by a sort of accessory +BjVoGFpyiyU-00150-00039375-00039569 ways the system which is attached to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00151-00039570-00039767 this machine which I am going to do in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00152-00039768-00040640 the next part of the lecture cut so you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00153-00040641-00040790 can see now this is we are at the back +BjVoGFpyiyU-00154-00040791-00040988 of the machine this is the back end or +BjVoGFpyiyU-00155-00040989-00041183 back side of the machine and you can see +BjVoGFpyiyU-00156-00041184-00041420 that on my right here is the abrasive +BjVoGFpyiyU-00157-00041421-00041669 jet machining unit and on my left you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00158-00041670-00041870 can find a lot of water lines which are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00159-00041871-00042086 laid out in a particular manner and this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00160-00042087-00042284 is basically the water handling system +BjVoGFpyiyU-00161-00042285-00042535 it is very important to produce water +BjVoGFpyiyU-00162-00042536-00042833 you know which is a high quality there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00163-00042834-00043010 should not be many impurities in that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00164-00043011-00043226 and therefore it is typically advisable +BjVoGFpyiyU-00165-00043227-00043457 to do reverse osmosis on this water +BjVoGFpyiyU-00166-00043458-00043634 before feeding it to the system and so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00167-00043635-00043916 we have the ionizer and reverse osmosis +BjVoGFpyiyU-00168-00043917-00044120 which is happening together so that you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00169-00044121-00044357 have good filtration and you have less I +BjVoGFpyiyU-00170-00044358-00044486 am content of the water you have to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00171-00044487-00044738 remember that at such a high speed there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00172-00044739-00044897 is going to be substantial increase in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00173-00044898-00045083 the temperature and therefore if there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00174-00045084-00045257 is some kind of impurity you are ions +BjVoGFpyiyU-00175-00045258-00045389 which are there they are going to create +BjVoGFpyiyU-00176-00045390-00045593 adverse effects in terms of nozzles +BjVoGFpyiyU-00177-00045594-00045824 getting deteriorated rapidly or deplete +BjVoGFpyiyU-00178-00045825-00046004 depletion and replacement of the nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00179-00046005-00046175 more frequently needed so on so forth so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00180-00046176-00046331 we don't want to do that and therefore +BjVoGFpyiyU-00181-00046332-00046520 filtration of this water is very very +BjVoGFpyiyU-00182-00046521-00046709 important for which you need separate +BjVoGFpyiyU-00183-00046710-00046970 accessories and customized filters for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00184-00046971-00047264 the same so looking at these systems +BjVoGFpyiyU-00185-00047265-00047516 this actually is an ion exchange resin +BjVoGFpyiyU-00186-00047517-00047702 material it's a tank filled of such a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00187-00047703-00048146 resin and there is a basically pure form +BjVoGFpyiyU-00188-00048147-00048413 of water which is fed into this column +BjVoGFpyiyU-00189-00048414-00048743 and there is a first level filtration +BjVoGFpyiyU-00190-00048744-00049010 which happens across this set up the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00191-00049011-00049214 water goes further into this other unit +BjVoGFpyiyU-00192-00049215-00049427 which is closed parallely and there are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00193-00049428-00049640 second level filtration systems which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00194-00049641-00050029 are there in this particular machine and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00195-00050030-00050345 there is a one pump which is actually to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00196-00050346-00050693 give the the initial head or +BjVoGFpyiyU-00197-00050694-00050945 displacement to the water sample and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00198-00050946-00051092 there is another high pressure pump +BjVoGFpyiyU-00199-00051093-00051284 which is actually in this region which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00200-00051285-00051461 would allow this water which has been +BjVoGFpyiyU-00201-00051462-00051712 purified at the first level to come in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00202-00051713-00051996 this membrane here there is a column at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00203-00051997-00052144 the back of this machine which houses a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00204-00052145-00052327 membrane so therefore you have a high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00205-00052328-00052525 velocity water passing through this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00206-00052526-00052744 membrane once and this membrane actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00207-00052745-00053562 cut this is the deionized membrane and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00208-00053563-00053779 this is the membrane actually which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00209-00053779-00054139 gives you high resistive water and gets +BjVoGFpyiyU-00210-00054140-00054373 rid of all the ions across this water so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00211-00054374-00054724 typically the resistivity here that we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00212-00054725-00055045 actually envision for the water sample +BjVoGFpyiyU-00213-00055046-00055204 to be fed into the next stage of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00214-00055204-00055408 machine is about close to 50 micro +BjVoGFpyiyU-00215-00055409-00055723 Siemens which is quite a high number of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00216-00055724-00056059 the the conductivity okay and quite a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00217-00056060-00056179 reasonable number of the conductivity +BjVoGFpyiyU-00218-00056179-00056454 low number of the conductivity and it is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00219-00056455-00056722 good to mention here that lesser is the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00220-00056723-00057037 conductivity of water sample even while +BjVoGFpyiyU-00221-00057038-00057192 there is a tendency of this water to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00222-00057194-00057417 flow into small orifices there is always +BjVoGFpyiyU-00223-00057419-00057630 the charge which gets acquired to the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00224-00057632-00057930 water and the low resistive nature or +BjVoGFpyiyU-00225-00057932-00058078 the resistive nature of the water +BjVoGFpyiyU-00226-00058079-00058483 actually suffices for any such charge to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00227-00058484-00058690 not flow into the system which may lead +BjVoGFpyiyU-00228-00058691-00058870 to some other potential problems in the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00229-00058871-00059041 machining etcetera so therefore it is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00230-00059041-00059269 very important to have a completely +BjVoGFpyiyU-00231-00059270-00059554 ionized deionized water number one for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00232-00059554-00059779 ensuring that there is no reactivity of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00233-00059779-00060040 the different systems to the ions at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00234-00060041-00060298 that high speed and also to ensure that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00235-00060299-00060490 because of this high pressure jet +BjVoGFpyiyU-00236-00060491-00060694 rushing through the tubing etc there is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00237-00060695-00060889 a tendency of charge gathering of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00238-00060890-00061104 water that should not happen and these +BjVoGFpyiyU-00239-00061105-00061270 are the two reasons why resistivity of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00240-00061271-00061477 the water is needed in the sample so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00241-00061478-00061647 once the water has been actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00242-00061648-00061891 purified in the system it is sent back +BjVoGFpyiyU-00243-00061891-00062065 into a chiller unit through this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00244-00062066-00062266 particular pipeline which goes to the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00245-00062266-00062548 back of the workshop and outside just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00246-00062549-00062749 opposite to the wall there is a chiller +BjVoGFpyiyU-00247-00062750-00062920 which would ensure that the water is at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00248-00062921-00063105 about temperature of close to eight to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00249-00063107-00063295 ten degrees which is actually the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00250-00063296-00063516 operating temperature for this machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00251-00063517-00063676 because you know it is a process where +BjVoGFpyiyU-00252-00063677-00064000 you are doing shear action on a metal +BjVoGFpyiyU-00253-00064001-00064324 and typically illustrating some of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00254-00064325-00064564 shear stresses that would be needed are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00255-00064565-00064738 of the range of about 400 Newton per +BjVoGFpyiyU-00256-00064739-00064837 millimeter square +BjVoGFpyiyU-00257-00064838-00064869 so that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00258-00064870-00065124 about what the ultimate shear stress of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00259-00065125-00065330 material like steel would be and so if +BjVoGFpyiyU-00260-00065332-00065538 you are wanting to hit upon in that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00261-00065539-00065727 particular value of shear stress you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00262-00065728-00066090 definitely need a self cooling system so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00263-00066091-00066300 that there are no other wattage issues +BjVoGFpyiyU-00264-00066301-00066468 as such of the workpiece because of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00265-00066469-00066633 high temperature which would get in the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00266-00066634-00066843 process of this shear so therefore there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00267-00066844-00067122 is a tendency of this water to carry the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00268-00067123-00067272 heat away and therefore it has to be at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00269-00067273-00067482 a low temperature from the chiller which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00270-00067483-00067683 is outside this wall the water comes +BjVoGFpyiyU-00271-00067684-00067947 back into the system and it goes all the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00272-00067948-00068118 way through a pipeline which is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00273-00068119-00068265 underground here and you cannot see on +BjVoGFpyiyU-00274-00068266-00068475 the video but it actually comes into +BjVoGFpyiyU-00275-00068476-00068789 this unit and from here it is fed in a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00276-00068790-00069036 reciprocating pump which is actually at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00277-00069037-00069249 the bottom of this particular system and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00278-00069250-00069561 what ensures is that the this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00279-00069562-00069747 procreating pump adds the pressure head +BjVoGFpyiyU-00280-00069748-00069978 and takes it all the way to about 40,000 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00281-00069979-00070278 psi as I was already illustrating so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00282-00070279-00070425 there is a separate cooling circuit for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00283-00070426-00070575 that pump there is also a separate +BjVoGFpyiyU-00284-00070576-00070800 circuit which would give you the water +BjVoGFpyiyU-00285-00070801-00071028 compression and the compressed water at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00286-00071029-00071292 40,000 psi is now taken into through +BjVoGFpyiyU-00287-00071293-00071995 this pipeline cut +BjVoGFpyiyU-00288-00071996-00072351 so this pipeline here right here okay is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00289-00072352-00072586 the the one which is feeding the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00290-00072587-00072802 compressed water onto the system and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00291-00072803-00073075 this goes thereby into the nozzle so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00292-00073076-00073273 this is the additional accessory which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00293-00073274-00073423 is needed for such a machine to be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00294-00073424-00073633 commissioned in a laboratory so we will +BjVoGFpyiyU-00295-00073634-00073789 now like to go to the front side of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00296-00073790-00073918 machine again and try to see how the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00297-00073919-00074074 machining can be done at a micro scale +BjVoGFpyiyU-00298-00074075-00074623 using this particular machinery so here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00299-00074624-00074848 as you see in this computer screen +BjVoGFpyiyU-00300-00074849-00075046 the process starts really with there are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00301-00075047-00075291 two software's which are actually lying +BjVoGFpyiyU-00302-00075292-00075625 parallel here one is called the Omax +BjVoGFpyiyU-00303-00075626-00075853 layout and another is called the Oh max +BjVoGFpyiyU-00304-00075854-00076093 make the manufacturer for this machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00305-00076094-00076330 is Oh max and that's why these are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00306-00076331-00076471 customized software's which have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00307-00076472-00076651 actually come with the machine and is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00308-00076652-00076969 operable on a regular Windows PC you can +BjVoGFpyiyU-00309-00076970-00077383 actually go ahead and go to this Oh max +BjVoGFpyiyU-00310-00077384-00077739 layout okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00311-00077740-00078265 cut there are say oh man a carrot so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00312-00078266-00078508 this window is actually the Oh max +BjVoGFpyiyU-00313-00078509-00078724 layout window so you go to the file +BjVoGFpyiyU-00314-00078725-00078910 option here there are different sub +BjVoGFpyiyU-00315-00078911-00079060 options which are in this area open +BjVoGFpyiyU-00316-00079061-00079321 reopen insert import so we want to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00317-00079322-00079552 import from another CAD file so I'm just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00318-00079553-00079768 going to go import the data and go to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00319-00079769-00079957 the desktop and I have placed the CAD +BjVoGFpyiyU-00320-00079958-00080212 file which is actually as a dot d except +BjVoGFpyiyU-00321-00080213-00080404 which we have actually imported cut +BjVoGFpyiyU-00322-00080405-00080934 console if aiyla +BjVoGFpyiyU-00323-00080935-00081190 so we'll just sort out or we'll just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00324-00081191-00081421 select this particular file which we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00325-00081422-00081604 have just recently imported from a CAD +BjVoGFpyiyU-00326-00081605-00081835 package you want to understand that this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00327-00081836-00082003 machine and the way that the controller +BjVoGFpyiyU-00328-00082004-00082267 is designed the path that it takes is on +BjVoGFpyiyU-00329-00082268-00082465 the basis of data from the CAD okay and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00330-00082466-00082657 there is already a computer-aided design +BjVoGFpyiyU-00331-00082658-00082861 file which has been stored here which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00332-00082862-00083167 has been done by somebody some other +BjVoGFpyiyU-00333-00083168-00083416 user which we are wanting to use on this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00334-00083417-00083698 machine to cut the particular feature so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00335-00083699-00083902 typically if you want to really give a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00336-00083903-00084115 job order the can of file has to be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00337-00084116-00084298 given during the time of the job order +BjVoGFpyiyU-00338-00084299-00084508 itself so that we can actually import +BjVoGFpyiyU-00339-00084509-00084700 this particular file without having to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00340-00084701-00084943 look at the geometry itself so this file +BjVoGFpyiyU-00341-00084944-00085031 is actual +BjVoGFpyiyU-00342-00085032-00085154 built on parts with the minimum +BjVoGFpyiyU-00343-00085155-00085412 dimension of about 1 millimeters and a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00344-00085413-00085653 maximum dimension of close to probably +BjVoGFpyiyU-00345-00085654-00085941 five or six millimeters and there is a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00346-00085942-00086153 issue of where the nozzle has to be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00347-00086154-00086297 placed because the nozzle itself is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00348-00086298-00086492 about 700 microns in diameter and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00349-00086493-00086654 therefore there always has to be a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00350-00086655-00086871 question of offsetting the nozzle by a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00351-00086872-00087159 certain distance so that the part of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00352-00087160-00087471 center of the nozzle is a little bit +BjVoGFpyiyU-00353-00087472-00087707 away from the machining zone okay on the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00354-00087708-00087968 machining edge and this option will come +BjVoGFpyiyU-00355-00087969-00088100 a little bit later when we talk about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00356-00088101-00088359 the actual machining operation which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00357-00088360-00088580 would be on the other make out a max +BjVoGFpyiyU-00358-00088581-00088787 make out software however we just need +BjVoGFpyiyU-00359-00088788-00088935 to do some pre-processing to the CAD +BjVoGFpyiyU-00360-00088936-00089115 data itself so that the machine is able +BjVoGFpyiyU-00361-00089116-00089357 to work in I have imported this file now +BjVoGFpyiyU-00362-00089358-00089906 and this is the drawing that has been +BjVoGFpyiyU-00363-00089907-00090074 imported into the Oh max layout and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00364-00090075-00090228 there are certain things which we have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00365-00090229-00090491 to define one of them is we have to give +BjVoGFpyiyU-00366-00090492-00090698 the Machine an indication of where it +BjVoGFpyiyU-00367-00090699-00090956 has to really go and piercer the sample +BjVoGFpyiyU-00368-00090957-00091365 so there are two options here one is you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00369-00091366-00091574 know you this area is hollow by the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00370-00091575-00091730 nature of the part it looks like that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00371-00091731-00091862 this is actually a hollow region and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00372-00091863-00092138 then the part is actually made in metal +BjVoGFpyiyU-00373-00092139-00092363 with an outer boundary given by this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00374-00092364-00092729 outside you know this these set of lines +BjVoGFpyiyU-00375-00092730-00092922 okay on the part so there is there are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00376-00092923-00093078 two set of cuts which are important +BjVoGFpyiyU-00377-00093079-00093332 otherwise there is a complete workpiece +BjVoGFpyiyU-00378-00093333-00093599 out of which you have to remove the zone +BjVoGFpyiyU-00379-00093600-00093773 as per this particular boundary outer +BjVoGFpyiyU-00380-00093774-00093986 boundary and also remove the material of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00381-00093987-00094262 the zone as per this inner boundary of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00382-00094263-00094490 the material so for doing that you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00383-00094491-00094793 to now somehow define where the machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00384-00094794-00095003 should appears and where it should not +BjVoGFpyiyU-00385-00095004-00095271 pierce and for that you need certain +BjVoGFpyiyU-00386-00095272-00095507 lines which defines the machine path +BjVoGFpyiyU-00387-00095508-00095750 from the start of the piercing action +BjVoGFpyiyU-00388-00095751-00095951 all the way to the end of the finishing +BjVoGFpyiyU-00389-00095952-00096159 of the machining so for doing that let +BjVoGFpyiyU-00390-00096160-00096467 us actually pick up this option line go +BjVoGFpyiyU-00391-00096468-00096662 to near to somewhere in this surface +BjVoGFpyiyU-00392-00096663-00096791 which you really need to machine off +BjVoGFpyiyU-00393-00096792-00097142 okay and draw a line in this manner okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00394-00097143-00097335 so that it gives you an indication that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00395-00097336-00097554 as the machine travels or the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00396-00097555-00097707 travels in this region automatically it +BjVoGFpyiyU-00397-00097708-00097905 will be able to pierce off this region +BjVoGFpyiyU-00398-00097906-00098163 so this intelligently has been given as +BjVoGFpyiyU-00399-00098164-00098412 a data to the machine similarly you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00400-00098413-00099198 on the other hand the the line now right +BjVoGFpyiyU-00401-00099199-00099375 now you know right now because you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00402-00099376-00099573 given only one direction the machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00403-00099574-00099732 will pierce in this half zone and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00404-00099733-00099851 other half will remain as such +BjVoGFpyiyU-00405-00099852-00100062 incomplete so what we have to do is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00406-00100063-00100302 actually give also a secondary option +BjVoGFpyiyU-00407-00100303-00100518 where you draw a line from the end of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00408-00100519-00100746 this particular first line all the way +BjVoGFpyiyU-00409-00100747-00100941 to the other direction so that you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00410-00100942-00101136 now defined that the piercing action +BjVoGFpyiyU-00411-00101137-00101313 should be not only in this particular +BjVoGFpyiyU-00412-00101314-00101556 region but also in this region as well +BjVoGFpyiyU-00413-00101557-00102491 cut mat equal row just give me a minute +BjVoGFpyiyU-00414-00102492-00102719 so one thing you have to remember is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00415-00102720-00102966 that wherever this cursor is being +BjVoGFpyiyU-00416-00102967-00103164 pressed it basically zooms that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00417-00103165-00103344 particular area right for example in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00418-00103345-00103482 this case if it is pressed here it is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00419-00103483-00103653 owns this particular area you can +BjVoGFpyiyU-00420-00103654-00103896 actually go by just rolling the cursor +BjVoGFpyiyU-00421-00103897-00104103 on the other direction it can just be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00422-00104104-00104346 magnify okay so supposing you want to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00423-00104347-00104493 place the cursor here so that you want +BjVoGFpyiyU-00424-00104494-00104649 to define this particular end here also +BjVoGFpyiyU-00425-00104650-00104904 there is a requirement that a line be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00426-00104905-00105093 drawn so then it gives you the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00427-00105094-00105461 information that the the sheet of metal +BjVoGFpyiyU-00428-00105463-00105717 which we want to finally machine through +BjVoGFpyiyU-00429-00105718-00105897 this process is Pierce in this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00430-00105898-00106136 particular zone similarly we also want +BjVoGFpyiyU-00431-00106138-00106347 to do this piercing action in the other +BjVoGFpyiyU-00432-00106348-00106623 direction so that you have an idea of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00433-00106624-00106806 which to cut and which not to cut okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00434-00106807-00107115 so now we have made up these piercing +BjVoGFpyiyU-00435-00107116-00107316 zones as this line this particular line +BjVoGFpyiyU-00436-00107317-00107561 this line and this line and this whole +BjVoGFpyiyU-00437-00107563-00107856 path is as such defined in continuty +BjVoGFpyiyU-00438-00107857-00108000 with all these lines so the piercing +BjVoGFpyiyU-00439-00108001-00108117 action will for the first to be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00440-00108118-00108339 initiated and then the jet would move as +BjVoGFpyiyU-00441-00108340-00108597 per this particular tract okay and cut +BjVoGFpyiyU-00442-00108598-00108942 the whole periphery of the system so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00443-00108943-00109317 once we have done that I think we are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00444-00109318-00109671 now ready to sort of select the speed at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00445-00109672-00109859 which the process would happen and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00446-00109860-00110067 typically based on the finish of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00447-00110068-00110226 process there can be several different +BjVoGFpyiyU-00448-00110227-00110415 speeds which you can select and in this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00449-00110416-00110558 particular case you know there is an +BjVoGFpyiyU-00450-00110559-00110651 option here at +BjVoGFpyiyU-00451-00110652-00110882 bottom end called quality so you have to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00452-00110883-00111083 right-click on this quality go to the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00453-00111083-00111218 window and then there are these +BjVoGFpyiyU-00454-00111219-00111488 different 1 2 3 4 and 5 different speeds +BjVoGFpyiyU-00455-00111489-00111677 at which the process can be initiated +BjVoGFpyiyU-00456-00111678-00111905 let's say we want to just do it at some +BjVoGFpyiyU-00457-00111906-00112181 moderate speed of 3 so we select this 3 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00458-00112182-00112523 and then because we have selected a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00459-00112524-00112739 window we can actually with this window +BjVoGFpyiyU-00460-00112740-00113006 cover this entire selection and make it +BjVoGFpyiyU-00461-00113007-00113255 all go by that same speed okay so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00462-00113256-00113402 therefore now I have defined that for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00463-00113403-00113606 the cutting action of this whole feature +BjVoGFpyiyU-00464-00113607-00113819 as such starting with the piercing in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00465-00113820-00113981 this region and a piercing in this zone +BjVoGFpyiyU-00466-00113982-00114281 the speed has been set to a grade of 3 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00467-00114282-00114506 which means moderate speed for doing the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00468-00114507-00114974 machining operation cut yeah you spoke a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00469-00114975-00115295 saw how to get rid of this little kitten +BjVoGFpyiyU-00470-00115296-00115486 I frequently go Thea Beach meltonian a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00471-00115488-00116008 lecture here so now you know you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00472-00116009-00116180 kind of defined the path for this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00473-00116181-00116501 particular line here and you know it is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00474-00116502-00116702 very important for it to also give the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00475-00116703-00116894 start position of the cutter so what I'm +BjVoGFpyiyU-00476-00116895-00117056 going to do is to go to the end of this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00477-00117057-00117305 line here and try to make another +BjVoGFpyiyU-00478-00117306-00117598 position which would be the home of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00479-00117599-00117883 you know or the beginning of the cutter +BjVoGFpyiyU-00480-00117884-00118040 so now what is happening here is the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00481-00118041-00118289 following you start the cutter from this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00482-00118290-00118472 home position go all the way through +BjVoGFpyiyU-00483-00118473-00118691 this line here start the piercing action +BjVoGFpyiyU-00484-00118692-00118904 and once this piercing has been started +BjVoGFpyiyU-00485-00118905-00119126 the the it goes follows this path goes +BjVoGFpyiyU-00486-00119127-00119363 through all this boundary here cuts all +BjVoGFpyiyU-00487-00119364-00119651 this thing in a piercing mode and then +BjVoGFpyiyU-00488-00119652-00119908 following this up to here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00489-00119909-00120158 the piercing actually happens and then +BjVoGFpyiyU-00490-00120158-00120320 you are defining the cutter cutter path +BjVoGFpyiyU-00491-00120321-00120500 to go to this other end here and from +BjVoGFpyiyU-00492-00120501-00120629 here the piercing action is again +BjVoGFpyiyU-00493-00120630-00120835 started to take place you cut all these +BjVoGFpyiyU-00494-00120836-00121025 things in this particular path okay the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00495-00121026-00121223 whole geometry is concluded like this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00496-00121224-00121427 and then goes all the way to this place +BjVoGFpyiyU-00497-00121428-00121655 the piercing happens up to here up to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00498-00121656-00121832 which the piercing stops and after that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00499-00121833-00122093 you are resting it in a final position +BjVoGFpyiyU-00500-00122094-00122291 so this is the home position to begin +BjVoGFpyiyU-00501-00122292-00122453 with initial position and this is the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00502-00122454-00122635 final position and actually you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00503-00122636-00122768 what you have done is you have defined +BjVoGFpyiyU-00504-00122769-00122978 the path which is important to cut this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00505-00122979-00123125 feature out of an otherwise solid +BjVoGFpyiyU-00506-00123126-00123365 workpiece so once it has been damaged +BjVoGFpyiyU-00507-00123366-00123659 you save this file okay and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00508-00123660-00123929 then you say with certain name maybe you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00509-00123930-00124422 file machining 9 9 2014 important or DXF +BjVoGFpyiyU-00510-00124423-00124683 in the desktop itself and then you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00511-00124683-00124928 emerge or you open another option here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00512-00124929-00125541 which is called the path option cut so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00513-00125542-00125733 now finally once this path is ready you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00514-00125733-00125903 have to realize or we have to give the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00515-00125904-00126078 information to the software that this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00516-00126079-00126284 particular is the intended path so there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00517-00126285-00126560 is a path option here on the left side +BjVoGFpyiyU-00518-00126561-00126779 as you see here right here so you click +BjVoGFpyiyU-00519-00126780-00126975 on that path option and come and there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00520-00126976-00127275 is a small pointer which says pick start +BjVoGFpyiyU-00521-00127276-00127449 which means that you know this is the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00522-00127450-00127626 point from which the machining would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00523-00127627-00127797 actually start so you go to the end of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00524-00127798-00127965 this line and just select this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00525-00127966-00128228 particular zone ok so that you now have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00526-00128229-00128490 the whole path to define and this is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00527-00128491-00128688 really the end of the process for the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00528-00128689-00128853 Womack's layout so the layout in the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00529-00128854-00128964 path both have been given by the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00530-00128965-00129123 software you can just save this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00531-00129124-00129359 particular file and the save option +BjVoGFpyiyU-00532-00129360-00129513 would ensure that there is another +BjVoGFpyiyU-00533-00129514-00129732 subsequent file just at the same +BjVoGFpyiyU-00534-00129733-00129945 location when the earlier CAD file was +BjVoGFpyiyU-00535-00129946-00130160 done and there would be a saving of this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00536-00130161-00130356 file in that particular location now we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00537-00130357-00130515 want to close the software because this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00538-00130516-00130671 is no longer useful to us so we just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00539-00130672-00130851 save this old whatever has been drawn +BjVoGFpyiyU-00540-00130852-00131196 and then you see that just parallel to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00541-00131197-00131502 that process there is another new file +BjVoGFpyiyU-00542-00131503-00131838 machining 9 9 2014 which has come this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00543-00131839-00132093 was our CAD file which came out from the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00544-00132094-00132276 omics and layout and this is the file +BjVoGFpyiyU-00545-00132277-00132786 which has been the phenomena and this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00546-00132787-00132951 file is basically the file which has +BjVoGFpyiyU-00547-00132952-00133188 been saved with a path information of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00548-00133189-00133401 the machine so what we want to do is to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00549-00133402-00133656 go down here and this Omax make software +BjVoGFpyiyU-00550-00133657-00133911 and open this particular file ok so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00551-00133912-00134121 there is an open file open option which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00552-00134122-00134301 is there where you can actually select +BjVoGFpyiyU-00553-00134302-00134436 so you go to the desktop +BjVoGFpyiyU-00554-00134437-00134607 you already still add the desktop and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00555-00134608-00134787 you can see where this new file +BjVoGFpyiyU-00556-00134788-00135186 machining 99 2014 a dot or is so you've +BjVoGFpyiyU-00557-00135187-00135387 selected this particular path and make +BjVoGFpyiyU-00558-00135388-00135624 it ok so it automatically imports this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00559-00135625-00135791 particular path in this particular file +BjVoGFpyiyU-00560-00135792-00136008 and here is where you have to do the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00561-00136009-00136371 machining using and several different +BjVoGFpyiyU-00562-00136372-00136541 parameters now no need to define in the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00563-00136542-00137069 system in this particular software cut +BjVoGFpyiyU-00564-00137070-00137364 so now the the question of defining the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00565-00137365-00137532 material properties come into picture to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00566-00137533-00137591 begin with +BjVoGFpyiyU-00567-00137592-00137760 so there is an option here called change +BjVoGFpyiyU-00568-00137761-00137997 path setup which actually leads you into +BjVoGFpyiyU-00569-00137998-00138225 this earlier obtain screen and on the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00570-00138226-00138438 left corner left lower corner here you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00571-00138439-00138716 see there is a tab with specially which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00572-00138717-00138953 says enter your material setup here okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00573-00138954-00139185 so this is actually about the material +BjVoGFpyiyU-00574-00139186-00139350 of the workpiece in this particular case +BjVoGFpyiyU-00575-00139351-00139545 as in the machine bed we have actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00576-00139546-00139739 mounted a variety of aluminum we would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00577-00139740-00139908 like to change this option to aluminum +BjVoGFpyiyU-00578-00139909-00140088 so there is a drop-down library here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00579-00140089-00140276 which would actually be able to get +BjVoGFpyiyU-00580-00140277-00140426 generated where there are two different +BjVoGFpyiyU-00581-00140427-00140579 grades of metal aluminum as you can see +BjVoGFpyiyU-00582-00140580-00141051 20 24 and 60 61 so we actually do the 60 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00583-00141052-00141348 61 because it is at a sort of you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00584-00141349-00141894 higher machine ability and then you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00585-00141895-00142194 you have the thickness to be set in in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00586-00142195-00142338 this case the sheet thickness that we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00587-00142339-00142521 are using is about 3mm so we can +BjVoGFpyiyU-00588-00142522-00142770 actually monitor our Lang make it 3 mm - +BjVoGFpyiyU-00589-00142771-00142899 laughs set now this is a very +BjVoGFpyiyU-00590-00142900-00143073 interesting thing what to Lobster really +BjVoGFpyiyU-00591-00143074-00143804 means cut there are mirrors so here you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00592-00143805-00144029 can see that this right here is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00593-00144030-00144207 basically representing the nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00594-00144208-00144432 orifice okay and right now you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00595-00144433-00144704 because of the various you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00596-00144705-00144843 aggressive actions which are happened +BjVoGFpyiyU-00597-00144844-00144999 the nozzle has grown old in the system +BjVoGFpyiyU-00598-00145000-00145209 so the nozzle diameter is close to about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00599-00145210-00145425 800 microns that we are using right in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00600-00145426-00145751 this case so basically offset is because +BjVoGFpyiyU-00601-00145752-00146078 is needed because the nozzles the center +BjVoGFpyiyU-00602-00146079-00146279 is actually the geometrical array which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00603-00146280-00146436 needs to be defined in the path so the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00604-00146437-00146702 path is actually the array of the how +BjVoGFpyiyU-00605-00146703-00146915 the center of the nozzle or center of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00606-00146916-00147183 the pressure of the nozzle the discharge +BjVoGFpyiyU-00607-00147184-00147270 okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00608-00147271-00147629 how that follows the particular cut path +BjVoGFpyiyU-00609-00147630-00147863 and naturally the center has to be off +BjVoGFpyiyU-00610-00147864-00148026 centered because there is going to be a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00611-00148027-00148320 finite radius of the nozzle okay and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00612-00148321-00148494 center of the nozzle is definitely away +BjVoGFpyiyU-00613-00148495-00148674 from the but otherwise it will be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00614-00148675-00148848 actually corresponding to a higher size +BjVoGFpyiyU-00615-00148849-00149066 of the cut and that should not happen so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00616-00149067-00149315 a setting up of the offset is very much +BjVoGFpyiyU-00617-00149316-00149451 needed at the beginning like +BjVoGFpyiyU-00618-00149452-00149769 cutter compensation in a CNC tool for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00619-00149770-00149880 example we talked about cutter +BjVoGFpyiyU-00620-00149881-00150096 compensation will be defining a certain +BjVoGFpyiyU-00621-00150097-00150402 circular cutter size and then we just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00622-00150403-00150651 simply add that radius onto the cut path +BjVoGFpyiyU-00623-00150652-00150819 length to define the new path a similar +BjVoGFpyiyU-00624-00150820-00151092 manner this is in the nozzle area so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00625-00151093-00151290 once we have done that and let's now go +BjVoGFpyiyU-00626-00151291-00151470 back to the software here the tool +BjVoGFpyiyU-00627-00151471-00151626 offset that we are setting in this case +BjVoGFpyiyU-00628-00151627-00151830 is about 400 microns which is the radius +BjVoGFpyiyU-00629-00151831-00151974 as I showed you in the previous +BjVoGFpyiyU-00630-00151975-00152259 illustration a rotation of the tool we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00631-00152260-00152436 don't want that the tool should rotate +BjVoGFpyiyU-00632-00152437-00152658 at the beginning and then the scale to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00633-00152659-00152862 which we want this to happen is only one +BjVoGFpyiyU-00634-00152863-00153018 is to one readout so there whatever is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00635-00153019-00153285 the dimensions on the CAD software is to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00636-00153286-00153450 be read out in terms of the machining +BjVoGFpyiyU-00637-00153451-00153795 path etc on the Omax layout Omax make +BjVoGFpyiyU-00638-00153796-00153990 software so once we have defined the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00639-00153991-00154176 path now we are all set and ready to go +BjVoGFpyiyU-00640-00154177-00154365 so the library is actually estimated and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00641-00154366-00154524 here on the right you can see the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00642-00154525-00154719 various properties which come up for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00643-00154720-00154902 example you know here you selected the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00644-00154903-00155115 metal aluminum 6061 grade machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00645-00155116-00155346 ability is given the thickness is given +BjVoGFpyiyU-00646-00155347-00155565 the tool offset of 0.4 mm is given to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00647-00155566-00155754 rotation is given and there are certain +BjVoGFpyiyU-00648-00155755-00155922 estimates that the Machine gives for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00649-00155923-00156144 example it says the estimate time to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00650-00156145-00156363 make this part is about close to 0.72 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00651-00156364-00156639 minutes about 42 seconds okay estimated +BjVoGFpyiyU-00652-00156640-00156930 cost to make this part is about you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00653-00156931-00157515 probably 0.3 of maybe about 30 cents ok +BjVoGFpyiyU-00654-00157516-00157815 which is about close to 15 degrees or so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00655-00157816-00158064 ok who estimated impressive needed also +BjVoGFpyiyU-00656-00158065-00158232 is estimated by the machine to be about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00657-00158233-00158520 under than 40 grams ok and then you can +BjVoGFpyiyU-00658-00158521-00158754 also define certain other aspects like +BjVoGFpyiyU-00659-00158755-00158937 the pressure etc if you look at the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00660-00158938-00159153 whole data sheet on the right here in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00661-00159154-00159387 the screen you can find various options +BjVoGFpyiyU-00662-00159388-00159663 like there are two Pierce's and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00663-00159664-00159876 piercing is done at a high pressure ok +BjVoGFpyiyU-00664-00159877-00160017 and the cutting is also done at a high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00665-00160018-00160236 pressure width of the path is given the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00666-00160237-00160380 height of the path is given length of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00667-00160381-00160581 tool path length of cutting all these +BjVoGFpyiyU-00668-00160582-00160797 different values are given and in fact +BjVoGFpyiyU-00669-00160798-00160986 the pressure values are also estimated +BjVoGFpyiyU-00670-00160987-00161145 because aluminum you know the material +BjVoGFpyiyU-00671-00161146-00161352 properties are already fed in the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00672-00161353-00161547 software software can give you a value +BjVoGFpyiyU-00673-00161548-00161739 of what is the set pressure that is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00674-00161740-00161898 needed on the higher and the lower side +BjVoGFpyiyU-00675-00161899-00162084 for this cutting action to successfully +BjVoGFpyiyU-00676-00162085-00162324 happen so you can see it's about 2300 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00677-00162325-00162498 bars and the higher side of the pressure +BjVoGFpyiyU-00678-00162499-00162648 and the low pressure can vary +BjVoGFpyiyU-00679-00162649-00162885 all the way toward 1,100 bars also you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00680-00162886-00163074 have a dual diameter in this case which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00681-00163075-00163341 is after where is reading out about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00682-00163342-00163671 three hundred and fifty microns okay as +BjVoGFpyiyU-00683-00163672-00163854 a plus if flow rate is given to be 0.3 +BjVoGFpyiyU-00684-00163855-00164070 kgs per minute so on so forth and so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00685-00164071-00164226 therefore and this mesh size that we are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00686-00164227-00164523 using and preserves generally are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00687-00164524-00164670 defined with the grid size or the mesh +BjVoGFpyiyU-00688-00164671-00164949 size is about in this particular case +BjVoGFpyiyU-00689-00164950-00165150 eighty okay so we are using eight B +BjVoGFpyiyU-00690-00165151-00165213 message +BjVoGFpyiyU-00691-00165214-00165519 it varies all the way to about 200 mesh +BjVoGFpyiyU-00692-00165520-00165846 size of the a Brussels okay so having +BjVoGFpyiyU-00693-00165847-00166035 said that and having all these reading +BjVoGFpyiyU-00694-00166036-00166248 all these values you know we are almost +BjVoGFpyiyU-00695-00166249-00166434 ready to do the next step of operation +BjVoGFpyiyU-00696-00166435-00166691 which is actually the machining and now +BjVoGFpyiyU-00697-00166692-00166872 we have to enable the pressure setup +BjVoGFpyiyU-00698-00166873-00167126 because here you can see there is a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00699-00167127-00167421 option here sounding babysit triggered +BjVoGFpyiyU-00700-00167422-00167607 which means that now we have to probably +BjVoGFpyiyU-00701-00167608-00167891 fire the cylinders to generate the high +BjVoGFpyiyU-00702-00167892-00168036 pressure of the system so that the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00703-00168037-00168243 cutting action can begin following which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00704-00168244-00168381 we will do the media begins machining +BjVoGFpyiyU-00705-00168382-00168540 operation and then we will monitor all +BjVoGFpyiyU-00706-00168541-00169047 the machining continues cut so here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00707-00169048-00169218 there is a question of turning on a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00708-00169219-00169398 valve on the machine which actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00709-00169399-00169572 gives you the air pressure because +BjVoGFpyiyU-00710-00169573-00169691 naturally there are certain pneumatic +BjVoGFpyiyU-00711-00169692-00170004 valves which were to operate where it +BjVoGFpyiyU-00712-00170005-00170385 would actually you know be able to give +BjVoGFpyiyU-00713-00170386-00170661 control off the water flow and the way +BjVoGFpyiyU-00714-00170662-00170946 the flow would happen a water flow the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00715-00170947-00171108 water pressure has already been started +BjVoGFpyiyU-00716-00171109-00171333 to generate because of the reciprocating +BjVoGFpyiyU-00717-00171334-00171491 pumps action which is in fact started +BjVoGFpyiyU-00718-00171492-00171711 only thing is how to control it in a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00719-00171712-00171873 good manner so the pneumatic valves are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00720-00171874-00172053 normally used for controlling the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00721-00172054-00172218 controlling of the water flow into the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00722-00172219-00172425 machine here and there is a small valve +BjVoGFpyiyU-00723-00172426-00172641 right here in this system which you have +BjVoGFpyiyU-00724-00172642-00172872 to turn on okay for ensuring that there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00725-00172873-00173025 is a compressor outside this room which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00726-00173026-00173211 generates this air pressure and this is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00727-00173212-00173340 the way that you set the pressure +BjVoGFpyiyU-00728-00173341-00173523 through this line on to the machine so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00729-00173524-00173691 that you can feed the pneumatic valves +BjVoGFpyiyU-00730-00173692-00173907 and the Machine can operate for the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00731-00173908-00174358 various machining aspects cut +BjVoGFpyiyU-00732-00174359-00174583 so as you can see on the screen here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00733-00174584-00174762 there are this green arrows which are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00734-00174763-00175041 actually four toggle and basically what +BjVoGFpyiyU-00735-00175042-00175236 it means is that you can position the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00736-00175237-00175471 nozzle and a certain region of the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00737-00175472-00175716 workpiece operating these particular +BjVoGFpyiyU-00738-00175717-00175885 arrows so you have a left side arrow +BjVoGFpyiyU-00739-00175886-00176013 right side arrow indicating the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00740-00176014-00176194 direction similarly if you want to go +BjVoGFpyiyU-00741-00176195-00176448 into the bed or outside you have this up +BjVoGFpyiyU-00742-00176449-00176686 and down arrow like cursors which are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00743-00176687-00176908 illustrated here so now I would like to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00744-00176909-00177198 sort of operate on these by pressing and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00745-00177199-00177411 then you know looking at the nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00746-00177412-00177654 which is there and how the nozzle moves +BjVoGFpyiyU-00747-00177655-00177879 you will see just as I press the cursor +BjVoGFpyiyU-00748-00177880-00178609 cut so here you can see that this is the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00749-00178610-00178778 aluminum sheet that I was talking about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00750-00178779-00179061 this brownish material earlier this is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00751-00179062-00179209 actually a deposit of the sand that is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00752-00179210-00179347 why you are seeing this is brown and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00753-00179348-00179661 this sheet is actually almost 3mm thick +BjVoGFpyiyU-00754-00179662-00179983 and it is mounted on a waterbed so this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00755-00179984-00180162 is actually filled with water because +BjVoGFpyiyU-00756-00180163-00180331 naturally the jet actually cuts in a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00757-00180332-00180504 submerged manner it is underneath the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00758-00180505-00180634 water that that that actually does the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00759-00180635-00180666 cutting +BjVoGFpyiyU-00760-00180667-00180823 and so therefore the water level would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00761-00180824-00181009 rise to a certain extent where it will +BjVoGFpyiyU-00762-00181010-00181203 do all the cutting action etc the other +BjVoGFpyiyU-00763-00181204-00181386 important aspect which I would like to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00764-00181387-00181539 show is that you have to really support +BjVoGFpyiyU-00765-00181540-00181800 the plane by is putting weight on the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00766-00181801-00181935 plane you can see several weights which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00767-00181936-00182112 are lying all around this plate because +BjVoGFpyiyU-00768-00182113-00182269 you ensure that while cutting action +BjVoGFpyiyU-00769-00182270-00182622 there is no lateral movement of the the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00770-00182623-00182889 aluminum plate as such for the machining +BjVoGFpyiyU-00771-00182890-00183087 operation so what I'm going to do now is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00772-00183088-00183339 to sort of operate this nozzle using +BjVoGFpyiyU-00773-00183340-00183516 these toggle keys okay so you can see +BjVoGFpyiyU-00774-00183517-00184229 the nozzle goes inside okay +BjVoGFpyiyU-00775-00184230-00184536 by using the toggle key and then I just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00776-00184537-00184932 take it ahead to a zone where I want the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00777-00184933-00185177 machining to happen or begin okay so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00778-00185178-00185325 this is probably the zone that I would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00779-00185326-00185564 like my machining activity to actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00780-00185565-00185985 happen and this is kind of a home +BjVoGFpyiyU-00781-00185986-00186795 position for the tool cut so here as you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00782-00186796-00187032 can see here there is a lead screw which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00783-00187033-00187194 would actually be able to shrivel the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00784-00187195-00187431 stage-two and throw away from the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00785-00187432-00187620 workpiece or into the workpiece I think +BjVoGFpyiyU-00786-00187621-00187794 I had mentioned this earlier that there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00787-00187795-00188052 has to be a good nozzle tip distance for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00788-00188053-00188252 these kind of throw processes where +BjVoGFpyiyU-00789-00188253-00188544 either abrasive jet machining you say or +BjVoGFpyiyU-00790-00188545-00188685 whatever water jet machining you say +BjVoGFpyiyU-00791-00188686-00188874 it's about throwing certain abrasives +BjVoGFpyiyU-00792-00188875-00189053 onto a surface right and so therefore +BjVoGFpyiyU-00793-00189054-00189249 it's very important that you optimize +BjVoGFpyiyU-00794-00189250-00189486 that throw distance so that your maximum +BjVoGFpyiyU-00795-00189487-00189759 metal material removal rate and minimum +BjVoGFpyiyU-00796-00189760-00190040 drag forces which otherwise come in if +BjVoGFpyiyU-00797-00190041-00190218 the nozzle dip distance is not optimized +BjVoGFpyiyU-00798-00190219-00190401 so in this particular case it is advised +BjVoGFpyiyU-00799-00190402-00190608 by the manufacturer to have a nozzle tip +BjVoGFpyiyU-00800-00190609-00190806 distance of correspondingly up one two +BjVoGFpyiyU-00801-00190807-00190989 three mm so we'll keep it at the maximum +BjVoGFpyiyU-00802-00190990-00191361 distance so we'll keep the distance to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00803-00191362-00191552 be the minimum which is about 1 mm and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00804-00191553-00191706 we are doing this by means of the steel +BjVoGFpyiyU-00805-00191707-00191937 scale which is close to about 1 mm so we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00806-00191938-00192189 are going to sort of put this scale into +BjVoGFpyiyU-00807-00192190-00192558 this particular you know between the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00808-00192559-00192747 nozzle and the workpiece and then using +BjVoGFpyiyU-00809-00192748-00192924 this manual lead screw we want to just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00810-00192925-00193562 get the define get to a point where this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00811-00193563-00194365 you know this the the lead screw can be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00812-00194366-00194661 optimized for the nozzle tip distance to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00813-00194662-00194816 be about 1 mm okay so this about +BjVoGFpyiyU-00814-00194817-00195012 touching the scale now you can see the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00815-00195013-00195171 pressure on the scale which means that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00816-00195172-00195375 that distance is about 1 mm it has +BjVoGFpyiyU-00817-00195376-00195539 already been set once this has been done +BjVoGFpyiyU-00818-00195540-00195786 then you lock the particular +BjVoGFpyiyU-00819-00195787-00196104 the leadscrew so it ensures that it +BjVoGFpyiyU-00820-00196105-00196308 doesn't move back and then you do +BjVoGFpyiyU-00821-00196309-00196464 something on the controller so that this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00822-00196465-00196665 is treated as a reference zero or a home +BjVoGFpyiyU-00823-00196666-00196983 position for the process to begin cut a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00824-00196984-00197511 little so on the right upper corner of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00825-00197512-00197706 the screen here you can see nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00826-00197707-00197916 position has been indicated and so there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00827-00197917-00198204 is a distance from users home which is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00828-00198205-00198390 actually a machine defined we don't want +BjVoGFpyiyU-00829-00198391-00198570 to mess with this and the other one is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00830-00198571-00198741 the distance from the path start which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00831-00198742-00198990 actually has been now given a certain +BjVoGFpyiyU-00832-00198991-00199302 position and we make this zero okay so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00833-00199303-00199593 you want to reset the path and do this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00834-00199594-00199848 as the reference for the machining to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00835-00199849-00200061 begin and that's probably the last step +BjVoGFpyiyU-00836-00200062-00200310 of doing you know the control and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00837-00200311-00200484 calibration on the system before we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00838-00200485-00200694 actually start the machining operation +BjVoGFpyiyU-00839-00200695-00200901 there you can actually go into this +BjVoGFpyiyU-00840-00200902-00201159 process and right-click on this so that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00841-00201160-00201411 you get into another control menu which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00842-00201412-00201666 says Oh maxed path control okay so here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00843-00201667-00201834 on the start button if you were to right +BjVoGFpyiyU-00844-00201835-00202032 click okay there is always going to be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00845-00202033-00202254 an option for dry run okay and you can +BjVoGFpyiyU-00846-00202255-00202446 actually similar it what is going on so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00847-00202447-00202599 there are different sub options which +BjVoGFpyiyU-00848-00202600-00202752 are opened in this menu which says dry +BjVoGFpyiyU-00849-00202753-00203136 run at full iron at half rapid speed you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00850-00203137-00203409 know so on so forth and 1/4 rapid +BjVoGFpyiyU-00851-00203410-00203589 Traverse speed so we can actually see +BjVoGFpyiyU-00852-00203590-00203811 how the Machine or machining is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00853-00203812-00204099 happening within the system by operating +BjVoGFpyiyU-00854-00204100-00204243 this dry run so let us actually now +BjVoGFpyiyU-00855-00204244-00204444 focus on the system and see that because +BjVoGFpyiyU-00856-00204445-00204582 of dry land what would be happening the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00857-00204583-00204819 machine path you can get visible by +BjVoGFpyiyU-00858-00204819-00204975 looking at the way that the nozzle goes +BjVoGFpyiyU-00859-00204976-00205214 into the workpiece surface cut or other +BjVoGFpyiyU-00860-00205215-00205659 focus curve so here in the dry run mode +BjVoGFpyiyU-00861-00205660-00205916 you can actually see that how you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00862-00205917-00206117 we will start dry run at half for rapid +BjVoGFpyiyU-00863-00206119-00206310 Traverse speed and if we do the left +BjVoGFpyiyU-00864-00206311-00206478 click on there you can see that you know +BjVoGFpyiyU-00865-00206479-00206634 there is without the actual the jet +BjVoGFpyiyU-00866-00206635-00206832 being operated you can see the nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00867-00206833-00207038 cut to the particular dimension that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00868-00207039-00207239 small feature size that we wanted to cut +BjVoGFpyiyU-00869-00207240-00207648 in in the aluminum and this gives you a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00870-00207648-00207869 sort of understanding that how the whole +BjVoGFpyiyU-00871-00207871-00208083 machine path would be designed for for +BjVoGFpyiyU-00872-00208084-00208469 doing this cutting action +BjVoGFpyiyU-00873-00208469-00208952 I now now I just closed this option here +BjVoGFpyiyU-00874-00208953-00209206 okay and then try to make it go to the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00875-00209207-00209359 home position so there is a go home +BjVoGFpyiyU-00876-00209360-00209423 option +BjVoGFpyiyU-00877-00209423-00209662 here so it will actually go now to the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00878-00209663-00209884 path the start position or the path home +BjVoGFpyiyU-00879-00209885-00210065 position automatically and we are not +BjVoGFpyiyU-00880-00210066-00210377 now set for basically working on the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00881-00210378-00210578 machine for that now I would like to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00882-00210579-00210752 just add on here something very +BjVoGFpyiyU-00883-00210753-00210896 important is that this machine is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00884-00210896-00211088 operated at a very high pressure of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00885-00211089-00211394 close to about 40,000 psi and naturally +BjVoGFpyiyU-00886-00211394-00211553 with such a high pressure you are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00887-00211554-00211759 hitting upon a material there is going +BjVoGFpyiyU-00888-00211760-00212012 to be a lot of noise emission because of +BjVoGFpyiyU-00889-00212013-00212192 that in order to prevent that from +BjVoGFpyiyU-00890-00212192-00212371 happening and also the fact that he +BjVoGFpyiyU-00891-00212373-00212555 should not have splashes typically when +BjVoGFpyiyU-00892-00212556-00212698 this particular jet hits from the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00893-00212700-00212978 machine you basically try to increase +BjVoGFpyiyU-00894-00212979-00213215 the overall wet water level to a certain +BjVoGFpyiyU-00895-00213216-00213440 area so that you can submerge the nozzle +BjVoGFpyiyU-00896-00213441-00213701 as well as the the plate on which the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00897-00213702-00213881 cutting action is happening so there are +BjVoGFpyiyU-00898-00213882-00214073 air a bellows which are available within +BjVoGFpyiyU-00899-00214073-00214313 this bed and there is an option here on +BjVoGFpyiyU-00900-00214314-00214681 this on this particular machine so when +BjVoGFpyiyU-00901-00214682-00214906 you see this toggle here which says +BjVoGFpyiyU-00902-00214907-00215230 water level and so in if you really want +BjVoGFpyiyU-00903-00215231-00215363 to put this toggle in the up position +BjVoGFpyiyU-00904-00215364-00215648 the bellows would swell and the whole +BjVoGFpyiyU-00905-00215648-00215881 water would come in a manner it will +BjVoGFpyiyU-00906-00215882-00216046 come flow over the workpiece as well as +BjVoGFpyiyU-00907-00216048-00216212 the nozzle and the water would actually +BjVoGFpyiyU-00908-00216213-00216385 the level of the water would go up and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00909-00216386-00216631 similarly level down means that the Velo +BjVoGFpyiyU-00910-00216632-00216815 would again contract and the water would +BjVoGFpyiyU-00911-00216816-00217021 receive because of that so let's just +BjVoGFpyiyU-00912-00217023-00217231 look at the bed what happens when I do +BjVoGFpyiyU-00913-00217232-00217780 this toggle up so now if you see now if +BjVoGFpyiyU-00914-00217781-00218003 you see if I just do this toggle there +BjVoGFpyiyU-00915-00218004-00218312 is always this you know water level +BjVoGFpyiyU-00916-00218313-00218519 which is elevated because of this below +BjVoGFpyiyU-00917-00218519-00218780 and now everything which is being cut is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00918-00218781-00219010 submerged to within the water and the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00919-00219011-00219142 cutting action would happen within the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00920-00219144-00219430 water itself so this is we have the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00921-00219431-00219662 Machine readiness is now 200 percent and +BjVoGFpyiyU-00922-00219663-00219965 we are now in a position where we can +BjVoGFpyiyU-00923-00219966-00220123 actually fire the biggest machine in +BjVoGFpyiyU-00924-00220125-00220298 command so that you can start the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00925-00220298-00220531 machining process okay and you have to +BjVoGFpyiyU-00926-00220532-00220806 be very careful because this is a safety +BjVoGFpyiyU-00927-00220807-00221101 related issue because machine +BjVoGFpyiyU-00928-00221102-00221323 some splashes which come out and also +BjVoGFpyiyU-00929-00221323-00221563 the fact that the jet of water is so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00930-00221564-00221742 high speed that it may as well be able +BjVoGFpyiyU-00931-00221744-00222034 to if it cuts as a piece of aluminum +BjVoGFpyiyU-00932-00222035-00222214 which is three millimeters it is as well +BjVoGFpyiyU-00933-00222215-00222496 as very serious for some kind of a limb +BjVoGFpyiyU-00934-00222496-00222709 or hand or something which gets quite up +BjVoGFpyiyU-00935-00222710-00222823 there so you have to be extremely +BjVoGFpyiyU-00936-00222823-00223012 careful while operating the system to be +BjVoGFpyiyU-00937-00223013-00223198 away from the system when you're +BjVoGFpyiyU-00938-00223198-00223348 basically trying to operate the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00939-00223348-00223510 machining process so I'm going to now +BjVoGFpyiyU-00940-00223511-00223746 fire the start machining option and get +BjVoGFpyiyU-00941-00223748-00223885 the process in the ready shape so that +BjVoGFpyiyU-00942-00223886-00224073 you can get the component machine so let +BjVoGFpyiyU-00943-00224075-00224233 me put a caution here as soon as we +BjVoGFpyiyU-00944-00224234-00224383 start the machining there would be a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00945-00224384-00224650 sound which will come which will be the +BjVoGFpyiyU-00946-00224651-00224917 noise of the machining operation and so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00947-00224917-00225096 what we are going to do in the video is +BjVoGFpyiyU-00948-00225098-00225298 to just expose you to the sound for a +BjVoGFpyiyU-00949-00225298-00225519 little bit and then delete the sound so +BjVoGFpyiyU-00950-00225521-00225842 that you don't you're not uncomfortable +BjVoGFpyiyU-00951-00225844-00226087 listening to this process so I'm going +BjVoGFpyiyU-00952-00226088-00226339 to now do the start option here so I'll +BjVoGFpyiyU-00953-00226340-00226600 just go ahead and do start and now you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00954-00226601-00226882 can see that the cutting action has +BjVoGFpyiyU-00955-00226883-00227113 started to happen you can see the water +BjVoGFpyiyU-00956-00227114-00227365 rushing past at the nozzle so that you +BjVoGFpyiyU-00957-00227366-00227641 can have the the cutting action going on +BjVoGFpyiyU-00958-00227642-00229971 in the metal sheet +BjVoGFpyiyU-00959-00229973-00230296 this is the part +BlIXQk10PiA-00000-00000043-00000350 sarbananda Sonowal born the 31st of +BlIXQk10PiA-00001-00000351-00000676 october 1961 is an indian politician who +BlIXQk10PiA-00002-00000677-00000872 has been chief minister of assam since +BlIXQk10PiA-00003-00000873-00001211 2016 he was elected to the 16th Lok +BlIXQk10PiA-00004-00001212-00001403 Sabha from the lick in poor Lok Sabha +BlIXQk10PiA-00005-00001404-00001622 constituency in Assam is a member of the +BlIXQk10PiA-00006-00001623-00001901 Bharatiya Janata Party he has previously +BlIXQk10PiA-00007-00001902-00002167 served as the president for BJP Assam +BlIXQk10PiA-00008-00002168-00002401 and is also a National Executive member +BlIXQk10PiA-00009-00002402-00002633 of the party Sonia wall was the +BlIXQk10PiA-00010-00002634-00002809 president of the all Assam Students +BlIXQk10PiA-00011-00002810-00003251 Union from 1992 to 1999 until January +BlIXQk10PiA-00012-00003252-00003527 2011 he was a member of the Asom gana +BlIXQk10PiA-00013-00003528-00003847 Parishad AGP political party but later +BlIXQk10PiA-00014-00003848-00004136 joined the Bharatiya Janata Party he is +BlIXQk10PiA-00015-00004137-00004340 popularly known as a firebrand and +BlIXQk10PiA-00016-00004341-00004579 dynamic youth politician also regarded +BlIXQk10PiA-00017-00004580-00004829 as a j'tia Nyak of Assam a title given +BlIXQk10PiA-00018-00004830-00005051 by the AAAS youth the oldest student +BlIXQk10PiA-00019-00005052-00005311 body of the state in May 2016 he was +BlIXQk10PiA-00020-00005312-00005479 elected to the Assam Legislative +BlIXQk10PiA-00021-00005480-00005660 Assembly from medjool II and was sworn +BlIXQk10PiA-00022-00005661-00006386 in as the 14th Chief Minister of Assam +BlIXQk10PiA-00023-00006387-00006805 topic early life in education +BlIXQk10PiA-00024-00006806-00007000 you +BlIXQk10PiA-00025-00007001-00007276 sarbananda Sonowal was born on the 31st +BlIXQk10PiA-00026-00007277-00007627 of october 1961 in mulligan located in +BlIXQk10PiA-00027-00007628-00007834 the Dibrugarh district of Assam to Sri +BlIXQk10PiA-00028-00007834-00008026 jives war Sonowal and Dennis Woori +BlIXQk10PiA-00029-00008027-00008311 sonowal he did his Bachelor of English +BlIXQk10PiA-00030-00008312-00008524 honors from Dibrugarh University and +BlIXQk10PiA-00031-00008525-00008701 went on to do his LLB from Guwahati +BlIXQk10PiA-00032-00008702-00008995 University he also started his political +BlIXQk10PiA-00033-00008996-00009583 career from here +BlIXQk10PiA-00034-00009584-00010224 topic political career sarbananda +BlIXQk10PiA-00035-00010225-00010444 sonowal was the president of asam's +BlIXQk10PiA-00036-00010445-00010651 oldest student body the all Assam +BlIXQk10PiA-00037-00010652-00011085 Students Union from 1992 to 1999 after +BlIXQk10PiA-00038-00011086-00011313 that he became a member of the Asom gana +BlIXQk10PiA-00039-00011314-00011758 Parishad AGP in 2001 he was elected the +BlIXQk10PiA-00040-00011759-00012087 MLA from asam's Moran constituency in +BlIXQk10PiA-00041-00012088-00012358 2004 he became a Lok Sabha member +BlIXQk10PiA-00042-00012359-00012591 representing dibrugarh constituency and +BlIXQk10PiA-00043-00012592-00012816 continued to be so till 2009 before +BlIXQk10PiA-00044-00012817-00013033 joining the Bharatiya Janata Party in +BlIXQk10PiA-00045-00013034-00013419 2011 in 2014 general election for Lok +BlIXQk10PiA-00046-00013420-00013609 Sabha he was appointed to head state +BlIXQk10PiA-00047-00013610-00013861 16th Lok Sabha elections Assam by +BlIXQk10PiA-00048-00013862-00014083 Bharatiya Janata Party and in the same +BlIXQk10PiA-00049-00014084-00014272 year he was also elected as Member of +BlIXQk10PiA-00050-00014272-00014512 Parliament 16th Lok Sabha from leak +BlIXQk10PiA-00051-00014513-00014694 import constituency he was then +BlIXQk10PiA-00052-00014695-00014869 appointed as union minister of state +BlIXQk10PiA-00053-00014869-00015069 independent charge of the Government of +BlIXQk10PiA-00054-00015070-00015244 India under the Modi government at the +BlIXQk10PiA-00055-00015244-00015493 centre he was selected as the CM +BlIXQk10PiA-00056-00015494-00015783 candidate of BJP for the 2016 Assam +BlIXQk10PiA-00057-00015784-00016063 assembly election on the 19th of May +BlIXQk10PiA-00058-00016063-00016375 2016 sarbananda sonowal won the assembly +BlIXQk10PiA-00059-00016376-00016569 election from the Julie constituency +BlIXQk10PiA-00060-00016570-00016765 making himself the next chief minister +BlIXQk10PiA-00061-00016766-00017488 of a psalm from Bharatiya Janata Party +BlIXQk10PiA-00062-00017489-00018154 topic biographical data sarbananda +BlIXQk10PiA-00063-00018155-00018358 Sonowal resigned from all executive +BlIXQk10PiA-00064-00018359-00018643 posts with an AGP and left the party due +BlIXQk10PiA-00065-00018644-00018841 to dissatisfaction with an amongst the +BlIXQk10PiA-00066-00018842-00019003 senior leadership of the party who are +BlIXQk10PiA-00067-00019004-00019198 trying to forge an alliance with a party +BlIXQk10PiA-00068-00019199-00019351 that was against the scrapping of the +BlIXQk10PiA-00069-00019352-00019657 controversial IMD Tea Act on the 8th of +BlIXQk10PiA-00070-00019658-00020005 February 2011 sonowal joined BJP in the +BlIXQk10PiA-00071-00020006-00020166 presence of the then BJP national +BlIXQk10PiA-00072-00020167-00020407 president Nitin gut curry and senior +BlIXQk10PiA-00073-00020408-00020619 leaders like Varun Gandhi Vijay Goel +BlIXQk10PiA-00074-00020620-00020884 Vijaya Chakravarty and state BJP +BlIXQk10PiA-00075-00020885-00021118 president Ranjit Dutta he was +BlIXQk10PiA-00076-00021119-00021304 immediately appointed as a member of the +BlIXQk10PiA-00077-00021305-00021571 BJP National Executive and later on the +BlIXQk10PiA-00078-00021572-00021829 state spokesperson of the BJP unit prior +BlIXQk10PiA-00079-00021830-00021988 to his current assignment to head the +BlIXQk10PiA-00080-00021989-00022258 state as the new president on the 28th +BlIXQk10PiA-00081-00022259-00022429 of January 2016 +BlIXQk10PiA-00082-00022430-00022642 BJP parliamentary board announced +BlIXQk10PiA-00083-00022643-00022867 sarbananda sonowal is BJP chief +BlIXQk10PiA-00084-00022868-00023169 ministerial candidate of a song he is +BlIXQk10PiA-00085-00023170-00023331 not married +BlIXQk10PiA-00086-00023332-00023707 topic positions held 2001 to 2004 +BlIXQk10PiA-00087-00023708-00023974 elected as MLA a psalm Legislative +BlIXQk10PiA-00088-00023975-00024253 Assembly from Moran constituency 2004 +BlIXQk10PiA-00089-00024254-00024519 elected as Member of Parliament 14th Lok +BlIXQk10PiA-00090-00024520-00024814 Sabha from Dibrugarh constituency 2005 +BlIXQk10PiA-00091-00024815-00025033 appointed member consultative committee +BlIXQk10PiA-00092-00025034-00025366 Ministry of Home Affairs 2006 appointed +BlIXQk10PiA-00093-00025367-00025594 member consultative committee Ministry +BlIXQk10PiA-00094-00025595-00025855 of Commerce and Industry 2011 appointed +BlIXQk10PiA-00095-00025856-00026032 as national executive member of +BlIXQk10PiA-00096-00026033-00026335 Bharatiya Janata Party 2011 appointed as +BlIXQk10PiA-00097-00026336-00026524 state spokesperson and general secretary +BlIXQk10PiA-00098-00026525-00026845 for a sambar attea Janata Party 2012 +BlIXQk10PiA-00099-00026845-00027090 appointed a state president for a sambar +BlIXQk10PiA-00100-00027091-00027367 attea Janata Party 2014 appointed to +BlIXQk10PiA-00101-00027368-00027562 head States 16th Lok Sabha elections +BlIXQk10PiA-00102-00027563-00027870 Assam Bharatiya Janata Party 2014 +BlIXQk10PiA-00103-00027872-00028114 elected his member of parliament 16th +BlIXQk10PiA-00104-00028114-00028342 Lok Sabha from leak in poor constituency +BlIXQk10PiA-00105-00028343-00028594 2014 appointed as union minister of +BlIXQk10PiA-00106-00028595-00028810 state independent charge Republic of +BlIXQk10PiA-00107-00028811-00029070 India 2016 declared as BJP chief +BlIXQk10PiA-00108-00029072-00029335 minister candidate for 2016 Assam +BlIXQk10PiA-00109-00029336-00029612 assembly elections +BlIXQk10PiA-00110-00029613-00029892 20:16 member of assam legislative +BlIXQk10PiA-00111-00029893-00030173 assembly from the julie constituency +BlIXQk10PiA-00112-00030174-00030477 2016 present 14th Chief Minister of +BlIXQk10PiA-00113-00030477-00030900 Assam +BlIXQk10PiA-00114-00030901-00031527 topic social and cultural activities +BlIXQk10PiA-00115-00031528-00031892 president all Assam students union 1992 +BlIXQk10PiA-00116-00031893-00032285 to 1999 chairman northeast students +BlIXQk10PiA-00117-00032286-00032937 organization 1996 to 2000 +BlIXQk10PiA-00118-00032938-00033477 topic sports and clubs +BlIXQk10PiA-00119-00033478-00034110 football cricket and badminton +BlIXQk10PiA-00120-00034111-00034756 topic role removing the IMD T Act +BlIXQk10PiA-00121-00034757-00034991 faced with the problem of massive +BlIXQk10PiA-00122-00034992-00035195 migration from Bangladesh into a psalm +BlIXQk10PiA-00123-00035196-00035336 the government tried to put up +BlIXQk10PiA-00124-00035337-00035543 legislation in place to detect and +BlIXQk10PiA-00125-00035544-00035843 deport foreign nationals eventually the +BlIXQk10PiA-00126-00035844-00036026 illegal migrants determination by +BlIXQk10PiA-00127-00036027-00036392 tribunal Act 1983 IMD T Act came into +BlIXQk10PiA-00128-00036393-00036602 being following the Assam Accord signed +BlIXQk10PiA-00129-00036603-00036776 between the Government of India and the +BlIXQk10PiA-00130-00036777-00037061 all Assam Students Union AAS you to end +BlIXQk10PiA-00131-00037062-00037300 the decade-long anti-foreigner agitation +BlIXQk10PiA-00132-00037301-00037649 the IMD t act as an instrument passed by +BlIXQk10PiA-00133-00037650-00037844 indian parliament when there was no MP +BlIXQk10PiA-00134-00037845-00038051 elected from Assam to detect illegal +BlIXQk10PiA-00135-00038052-00038249 immigrants from Bangladesh and expelled +BlIXQk10PiA-00136-00038250-00038495 him from Assam while the IMD Tea Act +BlIXQk10PiA-00137-00038496-00038729 operates only in a sum the foreigners +BlIXQk10PiA-00138-00038730-00039002 act 1946 applies to the rest of the +BlIXQk10PiA-00139-00039003-00039236 country it is applicable to those +BlIXQk10PiA-00140-00039237-00039434 Bangladeshi nationals who settled in +BlIXQk10PiA-00141-00039435-00039767 Assam on or after the 25th of March 1971 +BlIXQk10PiA-00142-00039768-00040049 under the Act the onus of proving the +BlIXQk10PiA-00143-00040050-00040271 citizenship of a suspected illegal alien +BlIXQk10PiA-00144-00040272-00040448 rests on the complainant often the +BlIXQk10PiA-00145-00040449-00040712 police on the other hand according to +BlIXQk10PiA-00146-00040713-00040898 the provisions of the foreigners act the +BlIXQk10PiA-00147-00040899-00041102 onus lies with the person suspected to +BlIXQk10PiA-00148-00041103-00041411 be an alien sonda Wald took the issue of +BlIXQk10PiA-00149-00041412-00041618 Bangladeshi infiltration to the Supreme +BlIXQk10PiA-00150-00041619-00041867 Court by its judgement dated the 12th of +BlIXQk10PiA-00151-00041868-00042131 July 2005 the court struck down the +BlIXQk10PiA-00152-00042132-00042317 illegal migrants determination by +BlIXQk10PiA-00153-00042318-00042584 tribunal Act 1983 as unconstitutional +BlIXQk10PiA-00154-00042585-00042848 and termed Bangladeshi infiltration an +BlIXQk10PiA-00155-00042849-00043127 external aggression and directed that +BlIXQk10PiA-00156-00043128-00043289 the Bangladesh Nationals who have +BlIXQk10PiA-00157-00043290-00043451 illegally crossed the border and have +BlIXQk10PiA-00158-00043452-00043649 trespassed into a sum or a living in +BlIXQk10PiA-00159-00043650-00043841 other parts of the country have no legal +BlIXQk10PiA-00160-00043842-00044045 right of any kind to remain in India and +BlIXQk10PiA-00161-00044046-00044679 they're liable to be deported +BlIXQk10PiA-00162-00044680-00045474 topic see also sauna Wolcott Charis all +BlIXQk10PiA-00163-00045475-00045923 Assam Students Union Asom gana Parishad +BlIXQk10PiA-00164-00045924-00046443 sarbananda Sonowal Ministry 2016 +BmNk2rsJSn4-00000-00004284-00005683 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00001-00005684-00006402 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00002-00006403-00007083 [Music] +BmNk2rsJSn4-00003-00007084-00009883 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00004-00009884-00011283 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00005-00011284-00012683 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00006-00012684-00014083 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00009-00026683-00028083 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00010-00028083-00031070 foreign +BmNk2rsJSn4-00011-00031072-00031327 foreign +CorLr02W-5Y-00000-00000038-00000326 couric teller english egg crust is a +CorLr02W-5Y-00001-00000327-00000563 Batali traditional spicy omelette dish +CorLr02W-5Y-00002-00000564-00000829 in Indonesian cuisine it is made from +CorLr02W-5Y-00003-00000830-00001007 glutinous rice cooked with egg and +CorLr02W-5Y-00004-00001008-00001183 served with sarin dang fried shredded +CorLr02W-5Y-00005-00001184-00001364 coconut fried shallots and dried shrimp +CorLr02W-5Y-00006-00001365-00001664 as topping it is considered as a snack +CorLr02W-5Y-00007-00001664-00001930 and not as a main dish the vendors of +CorLr02W-5Y-00008-00001932-00002090 Couric teller are easily the most +CorLr02W-5Y-00009-00002091-00002300 ubiquitous during annual Jakarta fair +CorLr02W-5Y-00010-00002301-00002498 and it has also become a must-have menu +CorLr02W-5Y-00011-00002499-00003159 item for visitors at the event +CorLr02W-5Y-00012-00003160-00003701 topic ingredients and method +CorLr02W-5Y-00013-00003702-00004026 each of the portion is made by order the +CorLr02W-5Y-00014-00004027-00004224 couric teller vendor puts a small amount +CorLr02W-5Y-00015-00004225-00004482 of Keeton English sticky rice on a small +CorLr02W-5Y-00016-00004483-00004656 wok pan and heats it on the charcoal +CorLr02W-5Y-00017-00004657-00004959 fire add an egg chicken or duck but duck +CorLr02W-5Y-00018-00004960-00005145 eggs are considered more delicious and +CorLr02W-5Y-00019-00005146-00005415 add some spices and mix it the dish is +CorLr02W-5Y-00020-00005416-00005616 fried on the wok without any cooking oil +CorLr02W-5Y-00021-00005617-00005778 so the omelette will stick on the wok +CorLr02W-5Y-00022-00005779-00005928 and enable to put it upside down +CorLr02W-5Y-00023-00005929-00006156 straight against charcoal fire until it +CorLr02W-5Y-00024-00006157-00006431 is cooked the spicy sarin dang sweet +CorLr02W-5Y-00025-00006433-00006678 grated coconut granule with EBI dried +CorLr02W-5Y-00026-00006679-00006879 salted shrimp and fried shallots are +CorLr02W-5Y-00027-00006880-00007501 sprinkled upon the omelette +CorLr02W-5Y-00028-00007502-00008010 topic history +CorLr02W-5Y-00029-00008011-00008256 in the colonial era Couric teller was a +CorLr02W-5Y-00030-00008257-00008445 privileged food and was served in big +CorLr02W-5Y-00031-00008446-00008646 parties for colonial government or rich +CorLr02W-5Y-00032-00008647-00008959 Batali according to gastronomy expert +CorLr02W-5Y-00033-00008960-00009171 Surya teeny and Danny Couric teller was +CorLr02W-5Y-00034-00009172-00009352 created in order to 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+C52mUHWvMB0-00000-00000053-00000299 next up is the talk that I think a lot +C52mUHWvMB0-00001-00000300-00000479 of you have been waiting eagerly for no +C52mUHWvMB0-00002-00000480-00000861 pressure Rob the deimos tutorial +C52mUHWvMB0-00003-00000863-00001067 hopefully some of you feel like you know +C52mUHWvMB0-00004-00001068-00001763 kung fu now but definitely ask questions +C52mUHWvMB0-00005-00001764-00001847 as we go here +C52mUHWvMB0-00006-00001848-00002054 that's probably there's gonna be a lot +C52mUHWvMB0-00007-00002055-00002330 thrown at you so better to get +C52mUHWvMB0-00008-00002331-00002501 clarification now and then go back and +C52mUHWvMB0-00009-00002502-00002639 look later rather than try to +C52mUHWvMB0-00010-00002640-00002990 necessarily follow along alright so my +C52mUHWvMB0-00011-00002991-00003346 name is Rob Faulk I started here at NASA +C52mUHWvMB0-00012-00003347-00003700 Glenn about 20 years ago now doing +C52mUHWvMB0-00013-00003701-00003922 mission analysis for spacecraft mission +C52mUHWvMB0-00014-00003923-00004316 design got into more of the software +C52mUHWvMB0-00015-00004317-00004453 details as far as some of the trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00016-00004454-00004609 optimization techniques go and kind of +C52mUHWvMB0-00017-00004610-00004903 fell in love with that I worked for a +C52mUHWvMB0-00018-00004904-00005102 long time on the ODIs trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00019-00005103-00005353 optimization software which is kind of +C52mUHWvMB0-00020-00005354-00005620 one of nasa's standard trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00021-00005621-00005788 optimization tools that uses a pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-00022-00005789-00006196 spectral method a few years ago justin +C52mUHWvMB0-00023-00006197-00006394 approached me and said you know we'd +C52mUHWvMB0-00024-00006395-00006688 like to do some dynamic analysis under +C52mUHWvMB0-00025-00006689-00006956 open MDA oh and so out of that +C52mUHWvMB0-00026-00006956-00007381 eventually came Deimos which is in a lot +C52mUHWvMB0-00027-00007382-00007684 of ways is flavored by Otis it has some +C52mUHWvMB0-00028-00007685-00008071 of the same interface kind of notions as +C52mUHWvMB0-00029-00008072-00008366 as Otis but we're also trying to improve +C52mUHWvMB0-00030-00008367-00008578 upon what was already there what I'm not +C52mUHWvMB0-00031-00008579-00008860 trying to do is recreate just have +C52mUHWvMB0-00032-00008861-00009005 another trajectory optimization tool +C52mUHWvMB0-00033-00009006-00009173 because there are so many but I am +C52mUHWvMB0-00034-00009174-00009442 trying to do one that plays well with +C52mUHWvMB0-00035-00009443-00009523 open mdo +C52mUHWvMB0-00036-00009524-00010024 and I'm also trying to use the features +C52mUHWvMB0-00037-00010025-00010213 of open em do to perhaps do things that +C52mUHWvMB0-00038-00010214-00010702 other schools can't do yet so Deimos is +C52mUHWvMB0-00039-00010703-00010870 an open-source library for modeling +C52mUHWvMB0-00040-00010871-00011155 dynamic systems in open MVA Oh with +C52mUHWvMB0-00041-00011156-00011366 support for multiple optimal control +C52mUHWvMB0-00042-00011367-00011641 techniques one of the important things +C52mUHWvMB0-00043-00011642-00011894 to me is that it doesn't impose the +C52mUHWvMB0-00044-00011895-00012067 trajectory optimization is the top level +C52mUHWvMB0-00045-00012068-00012403 problem in the system with Otis some of +C52mUHWvMB0-00046-00012404-00012512 the things that we're trying to do I +C52mUHWvMB0-00047-00012513-00012706 think I mentioned there in the last +C52mUHWvMB0-00048-00012707-00012916 bullet one of the things I'm always +C52mUHWvMB0-00049-00012917-00013127 interested in is I don't want to know +C52mUHWvMB0-00050-00013128-00013436 the best trajectory a system can fly +C52mUHWvMB0-00051-00013437-00013685 to Sara Lee I want to co.design the +C52mUHWvMB0-00052-00013686-00013930 trajectory and the system in a coupled +C52mUHWvMB0-00053-00013931-00014102 way such that we find the best system +C52mUHWvMB0-00054-00014103-00014455 that at that to fly a given trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00055-00014456-00014588 or the best vehicle designed to fly a +C52mUHWvMB0-00056-00014588-00014800 given trajectory and the best trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00057-00014801-00014963 that can be flown by that system so in +C52mUHWvMB0-00058-00014963-00015452 that way this is a couple problem we can +C52mUHWvMB0-00059-00015453-00015722 do that in the past and other tools do +C52mUHWvMB0-00060-00015722-00015886 do that you can parameterize your +C52mUHWvMB0-00061-00015887-00016103 vehicle design and say well if I have +C52mUHWvMB0-00062-00016104-00016271 this much mass on board or if this much +C52mUHWvMB0-00063-00016272-00016472 propellant on board then the size of my +C52mUHWvMB0-00064-00016473-00016633 propellant tanks you know the mass of +C52mUHWvMB0-00065-00016634-00016961 Micra pollen tanks increases etc but +C52mUHWvMB0-00066-00016962-00017090 what's difficult to do is a very +C52mUHWvMB0-00067-00017091-00017333 detailed design so we usually leave that +C52mUHWvMB0-00068-00017334-00017561 kind of parameterize that's at the +C52mUHWvMB0-00069-00017562-00017777 trajectory level what I wanted with +C52mUHWvMB0-00070-00017778-00018028 Deimos is to say no we're just going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00071-00018029-00018322 solve one open M Dao optimization of +C52mUHWvMB0-00072-00018323-00018553 which the trajectory or multiple +C52mUHWvMB0-00073-00018554-00018722 trajectories will be part of a larger +C52mUHWvMB0-00074-00018723-00018902 system and we're trying to essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00075-00018903-00019121 optimize this this overall system and +C52mUHWvMB0-00076-00019122-00019378 not just a single part a single piece of +C52mUHWvMB0-00077-00019379-00020090 it so Deimos leverages the strengths of +C52mUHWvMB0-00078-00020091-00020378 open M Bao most important of which to me +C52mUHWvMB0-00079-00020379-00020633 is the analytic derivatives and the +C52mUHWvMB0-00080-00020634-00020986 automatic detection of sparsity patterns +C52mUHWvMB0-00081-00020987-00021211 since open em do allows for adjoint +C52mUHWvMB0-00082-00021212-00021365 differentiation that tends to be faster +C52mUHWvMB0-00083-00021366-00021599 when you apply a shooting method that is +C52mUHWvMB0-00084-00021600-00021815 you start you know you're solving +C52mUHWvMB0-00085-00021816-00021992 essentially the initial value problem +C52mUHWvMB0-00086-00021993-00022150 you know where you're starting you know +C52mUHWvMB0-00087-00022151-00022408 control profile you know the time for +C52mUHWvMB0-00088-00022409-00022568 which you want to propagate you say go +C52mUHWvMB0-00089-00022569-00022814 your your your vehicle or your system +C52mUHWvMB0-00090-00022815-00023011 propagates forward in time and then you +C52mUHWvMB0-00091-00023012-00023240 say hey did that satisfy the constraints +C52mUHWvMB0-00092-00023241-00023518 if it didn't you come back and we guess +C52mUHWvMB0-00093-00023519-00023731 your control profile we guess your time +C52mUHWvMB0-00094-00023732-00024014 of integration that sort of system tends +C52mUHWvMB0-00095-00024015-00024325 to have only a few design variables the +C52mUHWvMB0-00096-00024326-00024515 initial state of the vehicle and all the +C52mUHWvMB0-00097-00024516-00024886 controls in time on the other hand the +C52mUHWvMB0-00098-00024887-00025100 pseudo spectral methods which I'll get +C52mUHWvMB0-00099-00025101-00025621 into a bit more they have a lot of +C52mUHWvMB0-00100-00025622-00025814 design variables and a lot of +C52mUHWvMB0-00101-00025814-00025993 constraints the jacobians there tend to +C52mUHWvMB0-00102-00025994-00026290 be on the order of squarish because of +C52mUHWvMB0-00103-00026291-00026498 that they're usually not faster in I +C52mUHWvMB0-00104-00026499-00026648 don't know they're usually faster in +C52mUHWvMB0-00105-00026649-00026798 forward mode +C52mUHWvMB0-00106-00026799-00027041 what one of the things that we did in +C52mUHWvMB0-00107-00027042-00027212 our SciTech paper last year is that we +C52mUHWvMB0-00108-00027213-00027467 showed a lot of times you work with +C52mUHWvMB0-00109-00027468-00027670 people who aren't interested in taking +C52mUHWvMB0-00110-00027672-00027808 the time to integrate their analysis +C52mUHWvMB0-00111-00027810-00028016 tool into something like a pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-00112-00028017-00028151 spectral method where you're aware of +C52mUHWvMB0-00113-00028152-00028274 the sparsity and everything they just +C52mUHWvMB0-00114-00028275-00028442 say give me your trajectory I'm gonna +C52mUHWvMB0-00115-00028443-00028607 tell you along that trajectory whether +C52mUHWvMB0-00116-00028608-00028841 you're violating constraints so kind of +C52mUHWvMB0-00117-00028842-00029057 like a post processing type step when +C52mUHWvMB0-00118-00029058-00029243 you do that you essentially are adding a +C52mUHWvMB0-00119-00029244-00029405 new constraint to your Jacobian that's +C52mUHWvMB0-00120-00029406-00029579 potentially dependent on the entirety of +C52mUHWvMB0-00121-00029580-00029732 the trajectory on all of your variables +C52mUHWvMB0-00122-00029733-00030116 so what that does is add this new dense +C52mUHWvMB0-00123-00030117-00030542 row to to your Jacobian pseudo spectral +C52mUHWvMB0-00124-00030543-00030800 methods historically have always had +C52mUHWvMB0-00125-00030801-00031010 dense columns because things like your +C52mUHWvMB0-00126-00031011-00031264 time or design variables can potentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00127-00031266-00031420 impact everything at every point along +C52mUHWvMB0-00128-00031422-00031781 the trajectory if I'd but we could make +C52mUHWvMB0-00129-00031782-00031985 use we could still essentially do +C52mUHWvMB0-00130-00031986-00032201 coloring we did a more manual coloring +C52mUHWvMB0-00131-00032202-00032405 with things like Otis and tools like Sox +C52mUHWvMB0-00132-00032406-00032882 and G pops at least back in the day that +C52mUHWvMB0-00133-00032883-00033116 at a more manual coloring now if I +C52mUHWvMB0-00134-00033117-00033368 introduce this this dense row into the +C52mUHWvMB0-00135-00033369-00033593 Jacobian I've obliterated my coloring I +C52mUHWvMB0-00136-00033594-00033839 can't efficiently simultaneously compute +C52mUHWvMB0-00137-00033840-00034130 two things but because of the way in +C52mUHWvMB0-00138-00034131-00034304 which open em Dao can compute +C52mUHWvMB0-00139-00034305-00034499 derivatives it can compute the ones in +C52mUHWvMB0-00140-00034500-00034711 forward mode that are efficient to +C52mUHWvMB0-00141-00034712-00034904 simultaneously compute in forward mode +C52mUHWvMB0-00142-00034905-00035057 and then it goes back through and says +C52mUHWvMB0-00143-00035058-00035192 oh and then after the fact I'm going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00144-00035193-00035378 compute this one essentially an adjoint +C52mUHWvMB0-00145-00035379-00035648 mode and and and replace that and +C52mUHWvMB0-00146-00035649-00035816 because of that you can get the best of +C52mUHWvMB0-00147-00035817-00035999 both worlds you can interact with people +C52mUHWvMB0-00148-00036000-00036179 who don't care to rewrite their code for +C52mUHWvMB0-00149-00036180-00036356 pseudo spectral methods and you'll still +C52mUHWvMB0-00150-00036357-00036707 get good performance so those I think +C52mUHWvMB0-00151-00036708-00036905 right now those are probably the +C52mUHWvMB0-00152-00036906-00037052 highlights of open India as far as I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-00153-00037053-00037316 concerned we do utilize parallelization +C52mUHWvMB0-00154-00037317-00037751 of expensive models via MPI I admittedly +C52mUHWvMB0-00155-00037752-00038021 do not use that as much but it is +C52mUHWvMB0-00156-00038022-00038192 something that we're definitely working +C52mUHWvMB0-00157-00038193-00038449 towards making as easy as possible and +C52mUHWvMB0-00158-00038450-00038891 then lastly the access to solvers open +C52mUHWvMB0-00159-00038892-00039167 MDOT's solvers within the OD e so I +C52mUHWvMB0-00160-00039168-00039419 think John was showing balanced flight +C52mUHWvMB0-00161-00039420-00039647 equations we've done a lot of work where +C52mUHWvMB0-00162-00039648-00039896 we would use what introductory +C52mUHWvMB0-00163-00039897-00040136 optimization we sometimes call +C52mUHWvMB0-00164-00040137-00040436 a differential inclusion technique where +C52mUHWvMB0-00165-00040437-00040625 what would traditionally be a control +C52mUHWvMB0-00166-00040626-00040910 variable in terms of something like +C52mUHWvMB0-00167-00040911-00041135 angle of attack and thrust instead we +C52mUHWvMB0-00168-00041136-00041387 effectively pose the altitude and +C52mUHWvMB0-00169-00041388-00041668 velocity profiles in time as the control +C52mUHWvMB0-00170-00041669-00041993 variables and then and and essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00171-00041994-00042332 say this trajectory is true what alpha +C52mUHWvMB0-00172-00042333-00042568 and thrust values make this trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00173-00042569-00042758 true and it's a different way of solving +C52mUHWvMB0-00174-00042759-00042974 problems in some cases it has some +C52mUHWvMB0-00175-00042975-00043162 benefits and we've used it with a good +C52mUHWvMB0-00176-00043163-00043481 deal of success in analyzing aircraft +C52mUHWvMB0-00177-00043482-00044000 problems and also before I go on if +C52mUHWvMB0-00178-00044001-00044261 anyone that wants to interrupt feel free +C52mUHWvMB0-00179-00044262-00044471 to interrupt ask me a question if you're +C52mUHWvMB0-00180-00044472-00044600 going to throw it fruit make sure it's +C52mUHWvMB0-00181-00044601-00045067 right and we'll be fine +C52mUHWvMB0-00182-00045068-00045346 so the numerical methods that Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-00183-00045347-00045577 uses right now I've written it +C52mUHWvMB0-00184-00045578-00045776 intentionally to be very general and +C52mUHWvMB0-00185-00045777-00045992 essentially allow one single interface +C52mUHWvMB0-00186-00045993-00046409 to a variety of methods right now we +C52mUHWvMB0-00187-00046410-00046631 support two pseudo spectral methods the +C52mUHWvMB0-00188-00046632-00046808 high order Gauss lobato technique which +C52mUHWvMB0-00189-00046809-00047062 is what was developed and noticed I'll +C52mUHWvMB0-00190-00047063-00047227 talk about a little bit about that more +C52mUHWvMB0-00191-00047228-00047426 later and then there were Dow pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-00192-00047427-00047639 spectral method which is in G pops and I +C52mUHWvMB0-00193-00047640-00047804 believe also dido although I admittedly +C52mUHWvMB0-00194-00047805-00048027 don't have as much experience with dido +C52mUHWvMB0-00195-00048028-00048443 shooting methods we do have an RK 4 in +C52mUHWvMB0-00196-00048444-00048677 there right now but we also have solver +C52mUHWvMB0-00197-00048678-00048869 based pseudo spectral methods that I'll +C52mUHWvMB0-00198-00048870-00049037 go into and I'll give a demonstration of +C52mUHWvMB0-00199-00049038-00049321 honestly I think my preference right now +C52mUHWvMB0-00200-00049322-00049505 would be to go with the solver based +C52mUHWvMB0-00201-00049506-00049706 suitor spectral methods and maybe not +C52mUHWvMB0-00202-00049707-00049904 worry about the RK method just because +C52mUHWvMB0-00203-00049905-00050252 the interface is not it's difficult to +C52mUHWvMB0-00204-00050253-00050486 maintain if we add features there's two +C52mUHWvMB0-00205-00050487-00050624 very different transcription types +C52mUHWvMB0-00206-00050625-00050744 whereas the pseudo spectral trans +C52mUHWvMB0-00207-00050745-00051046 transcriptions are much more consistent +C52mUHWvMB0-00208-00051047-00051217 with one another and give you +C52mUHWvMB0-00209-00051219-00051851 essentially the same behavior so the +C52mUHWvMB0-00210-00051852-00052064 problem that Deimos is effectively +C52mUHWvMB0-00211-00052065-00052246 helping you solve is to minimize or +C52mUHWvMB0-00212-00052247-00052519 maximize some objective quantity subject +C52mUHWvMB0-00213-00052520-00052841 to dynamics and we call the variables +C52mUHWvMB0-00214-00052841-00052979 that were integrating States which +C52mUHWvMB0-00215-00052979-00053167 collides with mdo and there's so many +C52mUHWvMB0-00216-00053169-00053315 name collisions between our two +C52mUHWvMB0-00217-00053316-00053530 disciplines that it drives me crazy +C52mUHWvMB0-00218-00053532-00053744 but that's but we would call this the +C52mUHWvMB0-00219-00053745-00053998 state dynamics that we're integrating +C52mUHWvMB0-00220-00053999-00054209 dynamic controls which are control +C52mUHWvMB0-00221-00054210-00054355 variables that can take on different +C52mUHWvMB0-00222-00054357-00054620 values throughout throughout the flight +C52mUHWvMB0-00223-00054621-00054734 so this would be something like your +C52mUHWvMB0-00224-00054735-00054986 steering angles static controls or +C52mUHWvMB0-00225-00054987-00055166 sometimes called design parameters as we +C52mUHWvMB0-00226-00055166-00055370 call them to design parameters those are +C52mUHWvMB0-00227-00055371-00055654 things that you set once upfront either +C52mUHWvMB0-00228-00055655-00055867 at the trajectory level or within a +C52mUHWvMB0-00229-00055869-00056080 single phase of the trajectory and they +C52mUHWvMB0-00230-00056082-00056242 don't change throughout that entire +C52mUHWvMB0-00231-00056244-00056462 trajectory in the case of the trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00232-00056463-00056603 design parameters or throughout the +C52mUHWvMB0-00233-00056604-00056755 phase in the case of the phase design +C52mUHWvMB0-00234-00056757-00057083 parameters boundary constraints are +C52mUHWvMB0-00235-00057084-00057311 constraints that are imposed at the +C52mUHWvMB0-00236-00057312-00057641 beginning and end of a portion of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00237-00057641-00057929 trajectory that we call phase so if you +C52mUHWvMB0-00238-00057929-00058211 if you want to pin your initial value or +C52mUHWvMB0-00239-00058212-00058370 your final value at some portion of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00240-00058371-00058634 flight to a known desired value that's +C52mUHWvMB0-00241-00058635-00058792 how we would do it and then path +C52mUHWvMB0-00242-00058794-00059075 constraints are basically we used to +C52mUHWvMB0-00243-00059076-00059222 call those placards and older versions +C52mUHWvMB0-00244-00059223-00059423 of OTUs they're the velocity not to +C52mUHWvMB0-00245-00059424-00059597 exceed or things like that where you +C52mUHWvMB0-00246-00059598-00059791 know never throughout the trajectories +C52mUHWvMB0-00247-00059792-00060292 shall you exceed these values so as I +C52mUHWvMB0-00248-00060294-00060488 said the the die most user interface is +C52mUHWvMB0-00249-00060489-00060788 heavily influenced by Otis a trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00250-00060789-00060974 it's broken up into one or more phases +C52mUHWvMB0-00251-00060975-00061255 and then in each phase States or +C52mUHWvMB0-00252-00061257-00061429 controls are represented by one or more +C52mUHWvMB0-00253-00061430-00061664 polynomial segments in time and this +C52mUHWvMB0-00254-00061665-00061832 might sound a little confusing and just +C52mUHWvMB0-00255-00061833-00062009 text but I'm going to get into some - +C52mUHWvMB0-00256-00062010-00062150 some graphics later that will hopefully +C52mUHWvMB0-00257-00062151-00062467 make it more clear you can link phases B +C52mUHWvMB0-00258-00062469-00062783 via constraint so you can say you can +C52mUHWvMB0-00259-00062784-00062945 optimize this trajectory I don't care +C52mUHWvMB0-00260-00062946-00063065 what you do but at the end of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00261-00063066-00063265 optimization the initial value of +C52mUHWvMB0-00262-00063266-00063512 altitude in this phase has to equal the +C52mUHWvMB0-00263-00063513-00063722 final value of altitude in this phase +C52mUHWvMB0-00264-00063723-00063911 and that's one way in which we can link +C52mUHWvMB0-00265-00063912-00064141 trajectories together we also do support +C52mUHWvMB0-00266-00064142-00064391 in open M do fashion just straight +C52mUHWvMB0-00267-00064391-00064574 linking you know the output of this +C52mUHWvMB0-00268-00064575-00064763 trajectory feeds into the input of this +C52mUHWvMB0-00269-00064764-00065135 trajectory the this disadvantage of +C52mUHWvMB0-00270-00065136-00065372 doing that is that you can't parallel +C52mUHWvMB0-00271-00065373-00065912 lies then those two phase analyses and +C52mUHWvMB0-00272-00065913-00066125 then our phase linkages are also very +C52mUHWvMB0-00273-00066126-00066332 general so if you have a branching +C52mUHWvMB0-00274-00066333-00066527 trajectory or a trajectory that includes +C52mUHWvMB0-00275-00066528-00066809 for instance a nominal nominal launch +C52mUHWvMB0-00276-00066810-00066911 vehicle ascent +C52mUHWvMB0-00277-00066912-00067046 then you also when I take into account +C52mUHWvMB0-00278-00067047-00067207 something like a fly back booster like +C52mUHWvMB0-00279-00067208-00067768 we saw earlier you can handle that +C52mUHWvMB0-00280-00067769-00068236 notable features of Deimos as far as +C52mUHWvMB0-00281-00068237-00068546 compared to other tradition tools that +C52mUHWvMB0-00282-00068547-00068707 I'm aware of our vectorized States +C52mUHWvMB0-00283-00068708-00068873 controls and parameters with Otis +C52mUHWvMB0-00284-00068874-00069203 everything was rigorously constrained to +C52mUHWvMB0-00285-00069204-00069362 be a scalar quantity at each point in +C52mUHWvMB0-00286-00069363-00069599 time which made things like major vector +C52mUHWvMB0-00287-00069600-00069967 matrix vector products difficult to do +C52mUHWvMB0-00288-00069968-00070178 access to the first and second time +C52mUHWvMB0-00289-00070179-00070332 derivatives of controls so if I do +C52mUHWvMB0-00290-00070333-00070634 specify a control profile because of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00291-00070635-00070853 pseudo spectral nature of the code and +C52mUHWvMB0-00292-00070854-00071006 because like I essentially represent +C52mUHWvMB0-00293-00071007-00071309 controls as polynomials throughout the +C52mUHWvMB0-00294-00071310-00071636 phase through a relatively simple matrix +C52mUHWvMB0-00295-00071637-00071816 vector product I can get access to the +C52mUHWvMB0-00296-00071817-00071978 first and second time derivatives of +C52mUHWvMB0-00297-00071979-00072221 those controls and then we also allow +C52mUHWvMB0-00298-00072222-00072398 our output to be available on arbitrary +C52mUHWvMB0-00299-00072399-00072757 grids the most recent case in which this +C52mUHWvMB0-00300-00072758-00073064 was useful to us as a design team was +C52mUHWvMB0-00301-00073065-00073330 for our electric tilt tilt rotor design +C52mUHWvMB0-00302-00073331-00073610 we had the flight dynamics which had a +C52mUHWvMB0-00303-00073611-00074018 relatively you know benign slow slow +C52mUHWvMB0-00304-00074019-00074246 dynamics and then we also had a thermal +C52mUHWvMB0-00305-00074247-00074393 system with very little mass that +C52mUHWvMB0-00306-00074394-00074639 responded very much in us in a step +C52mUHWvMB0-00307-00074640-00074899 function kind of fashion so as the +C52mUHWvMB0-00308-00074900-00075119 vehicle was flying +C52mUHWvMB0-00309-00075120-00075347 we essentially would lose the accuracy +C52mUHWvMB0-00310-00075348-00075575 of those step-like responses of a +C52mUHWvMB0-00311-00075576-00075776 thermal system in order to accommodate +C52mUHWvMB0-00312-00075777-00075974 that one of the things you can do is you +C52mUHWvMB0-00313-00075975-00076139 can increase the density the number of +C52mUHWvMB0-00314-00076140-00076271 polynomials that you're using to +C52mUHWvMB0-00315-00076272-00076448 represent your states and controls in a +C52mUHWvMB0-00316-00076449-00076646 phase but if you increase the number of +C52mUHWvMB0-00317-00076647-00076807 polynomials in the Statesville +C52mUHWvMB0-00318-00076808-00076994 representing those states and controls +C52mUHWvMB0-00319-00076995-00077228 the cost of computation group goes up in +C52mUHWvMB0-00320-00077229-00077363 the case of the analysis we were doing +C52mUHWvMB0-00321-00077364-00077579 it went up quite a bit what was easier +C52mUHWvMB0-00322-00077580-00077735 for us to do was to say we're going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00323-00077736-00077939 have one phase that represents the +C52mUHWvMB0-00324-00077940-00078146 flight dynamics of the vehicle in this +C52mUHWvMB0-00325-00078147-00078305 other phase we're going to represent the +C52mUHWvMB0-00326-00078306-00078449 response of a thermal system in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00327-00078450-00078668 vehicle those two phases were +C52mUHWvMB0-00328-00078669-00078812 essentially constrained to operate +C52mUHWvMB0-00329-00078813-00079022 simultaneously in time so that the +C52mUHWvMB0-00330-00079023-00079163 beginning time of one phase and the +C52mUHWvMB0-00331-00079164-00079466 final time of that phase had to be the +C52mUHWvMB0-00332-00079467-00079694 same as they were in the other it's just +C52mUHWvMB0-00333-00079695-00079898 that second phased on thermal analysis +C52mUHWvMB0-00334-00079899-00080081 was allowed to be defined on a much +C52mUHWvMB0-00335-00080082-00080228 denser grid we could get the accuracy +C52mUHWvMB0-00336-00080229-00080302 out of it +C52mUHWvMB0-00337-00080303-00080587 we needed and and everything works a +C52mUHWvMB0-00338-00080588-00080824 whole lot better so the goals that we're +C52mUHWvMB0-00339-00080825-00080983 going to do of what we're going to do +C52mUHWvMB0-00340-00080984-00081178 today are to set up an optimal control +C52mUHWvMB0-00341-00081179-00081448 problem with Deimos and then we're going +C52mUHWvMB0-00342-00081449-00081622 to I'm gonna try to help you guys learn +C52mUHWvMB0-00343-00081623-00081795 what to do when things don't go well +C52mUHWvMB0-00344-00081796-00082027 unfortunately one of the things that we +C52mUHWvMB0-00345-00082028-00082345 were talking about earlier is that we +C52mUHWvMB0-00346-00082346-00082510 need people to kind of think with their +C52mUHWvMB0-00347-00082511-00082717 open em Dao hat when they do open em Dao +C52mUHWvMB0-00348-00082718-00083028 analysis thinking in terms of you know +C52mUHWvMB0-00349-00083029-00083368 what Otis the Otis method and what now +C52mUHWvMB0-00350-00083369-00083527 is in Deimos is another layer of +C52mUHWvMB0-00351-00083528-00083689 thinking of another couple of wrinkles +C52mUHWvMB0-00352-00083690-00083902 you need in your brain as far as what to +C52mUHWvMB0-00353-00083903-00084115 do how do I attack this problem and +C52mUHWvMB0-00354-00084116-00084325 thinking of solving it in terms of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00355-00084326-00084526 of the capability is available to you +C52mUHWvMB0-00356-00084527-00085240 with something like Deimos so Eric +C52mUHWvMB0-00357-00085241-00085447 Hendrix actually sent me this problem a +C52mUHWvMB0-00358-00085448-00085621 few weeks ago and it was an interesting +C52mUHWvMB0-00359-00085622-00085935 optimal control problem it was from 538 +C52mUHWvMB0-00360-00085936-00086275 538 website and the text of the problem +C52mUHWvMB0-00361-00086276-00086620 is that an enemy submarine is lies +C52mUHWvMB0-00362-00086621-00086857 between your ship and your home court +C52mUHWvMB0-00363-00086858-00087076 and all its known about that is that +C52mUHWvMB0-00364-00087077-00087235 it's halfway is at the halfway mark +C52mUHWvMB0-00365-00087236-00087472 between your current location and your +C52mUHWvMB0-00366-00087473-00087967 port and that sub has some speed and we +C52mUHWvMB0-00367-00087968-00088180 want to know how much faster those my +C52mUHWvMB0-00368-00088181-00088327 ship have to be than the sub to +C52mUHWvMB0-00369-00088328-00088498 guarantee that that sub can't reach me +C52mUHWvMB0-00370-00088499-00088855 so this is the problem that the example +C52mUHWvMB0-00371-00088856-00089160 cases that I'm going to run through +C52mUHWvMB0-00372-00089161-00089503 tackles so first the first thing you +C52mUHWvMB0-00373-00089504-00089632 need to do with diagnosis is figure out +C52mUHWvMB0-00374-00089633-00090043 what your OD e is it can be an OD e it +C52mUHWvMB0-00375-00090044-00090205 can be algebraic differential equations +C52mUHWvMB0-00376-00090206-00090403 if you want to use solvers internally I +C52mUHWvMB0-00377-00090404-00090655 call everything an OD e so that's what +C52mUHWvMB0-00378-00090656-00090988 we're going to do here I have I'm going +C52mUHWvMB0-00379-00090989-00091174 to have two state variables x and y +C52mUHWvMB0-00380-00091175-00091428 which are the horizontal essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00381-00091429-00091815 another name for longitude and latitude +C52mUHWvMB0-00382-00091816-00092320 respectively so the rate of change of +C52mUHWvMB0-00383-00092321-00092575 our horizontal or the rate of change of +C52mUHWvMB0-00384-00092576-00092914 our east-west position X is the velocity +C52mUHWvMB0-00385-00092915-00093132 of the vehicle velocity of our ship +C52mUHWvMB0-00386-00093133-00093481 times the sine of some steering angle or +C52mUHWvMB0-00387-00093482-00093581 that +C52mUHWvMB0-00388-00093582-00093805 which is essentially the azmuth and then +C52mUHWvMB0-00389-00093806-00094181 the Y speed is essentially the velocity +C52mUHWvMB0-00390-00094182-00094706 times the cosine of that term then we +C52mUHWvMB0-00391-00094707-00094895 need to consider the submarine we're +C52mUHWvMB0-00392-00094896-00095156 going to give the sub a speed of 1 unit +C52mUHWvMB0-00393-00095157-00095384 less because all we want to know is +C52mUHWvMB0-00394-00095385-00095555 relative to that submarine how fast do +C52mUHWvMB0-00395-00095556-00095687 we need to be so we'll say the speed +C52mUHWvMB0-00396-00095688-00095900 with some saw this one whatever speed we +C52mUHWvMB0-00397-00095901-00096089 figure out for our vehicle essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00398-00096090-00096299 you know just divided by one and then +C52mUHWvMB0-00399-00096300-00096644 we'll know how fast we need to be the +C52mUHWvMB0-00400-00096645-00096833 other key assumption that we're making +C52mUHWvMB0-00401-00096834-00097073 for this is that they didn't give a +C52mUHWvMB0-00402-00097074-00097307 whole lot of detail about how the sub +C52mUHWvMB0-00403-00097308-00097820 can steer solving cat and mouse missile +C52mUHWvMB0-00404-00097821-00098048 or interceptor and target you know +C52mUHWvMB0-00405-00098049-00098273 scenarios with optimal control where +C52mUHWvMB0-00406-00098274-00098525 both things are supposedly intelligent +C52mUHWvMB0-00407-00098526-00098753 and steering is extremely difficult to +C52mUHWvMB0-00408-00098754-00098885 do you kind of have a race condition +C52mUHWvMB0-00409-00098886-00099182 where you know that's just a extremely +C52mUHWvMB0-00410-00099183-00099452 difficult problem to optimize so what +C52mUHWvMB0-00411-00099453-00099680 we're going to do is just say okay we +C52mUHWvMB0-00412-00099681-00099833 don't know where this sub is that's the +C52mUHWvMB0-00413-00099834-00100063 point it submerged submerges and then +C52mUHWvMB0-00414-00100064-00100334 its position is unknown to us all we +C52mUHWvMB0-00415-00100335-00100541 know is that it has some velocity that +C52mUHWvMB0-00416-00100542-00100721 it can potentially attain therefore +C52mUHWvMB0-00417-00100722-00100925 there is a radius that grows with time +C52mUHWvMB0-00418-00100926-00101237 around its initial starting point and we +C52mUHWvMB0-00419-00101238-00101390 don't want to be any closer to its +C52mUHWvMB0-00420-00101391-00101678 starting point then the sub is at any +C52mUHWvMB0-00421-00101679-00101873 given time if we if otherwise we're +C52mUHWvMB0-00422-00101874-00102098 pretension potentially within range of +C52mUHWvMB0-00423-00102099-00102392 its sinking sinking us I think I forgot +C52mUHWvMB0-00424-00102393-00102530 to mention that detail of the way that +C52mUHWvMB0-00425-00102531-00102707 the problem is defined the sub +C52mUHWvMB0-00426-00102708-00102863 effectively has to be right under your +C52mUHWvMB0-00427-00102864-00103280 ship in order to thank you in order to +C52mUHWvMB0-00428-00103281-00103499 satisfy that constraint we're going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00429-00103500-00103660 use a path constraint which is a feature +C52mUHWvMB0-00430-00103661-00104027 of Deimos and a lot of other trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00431-00104028-00104306 optimization tools in order to avoid the +C52mUHWvMB0-00432-00104307-00104494 sub our ship must be greater than our +C52mUHWvMB0-00433-00104495-00104813 sub units away from its origin at any +C52mUHWvMB0-00434-00104814-00105038 given time so if we compute the radius +C52mUHWvMB0-00435-00105039-00105251 of our ship from from the subs origin +C52mUHWvMB0-00436-00105252-00105409 assuming in this case that the sub +C52mUHWvMB0-00437-00105410-00105953 starts at x equals 0 y equals 0 then our +C52mUHWvMB0-00438-00105954-00106190 constraint equation is the radius of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00439-00106191-00106418 ship minus the radius of sub has to be +C52mUHWvMB0-00440-00106419-00106631 greater greater than or equal to 0 +C52mUHWvMB0-00441-00106632-00106829 technically greater than but we're kind +C52mUHWvMB0-00442-00106830-00106873 of finding +C52mUHWvMB0-00443-00106874-00107206 Edge's here the next thing I usually do +C52mUHWvMB0-00444-00107207-00107454 when I'm coming up with solving a +C52mUHWvMB0-00445-00107455-00107703 problem in dymos is I write out the XDS +C52mUHWvMB0-00446-00107704-00108204 M of the OD e system so here we talked +C52mUHWvMB0-00447-00108205-00108573 about three calculations we need to make +C52mUHWvMB0-00448-00108574-00108888 those are the equations of motion X dot +C52mUHWvMB0-00449-00108889-00109179 y dot some navigation that essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00450-00109180-00109503 gives us the radius of our ship from the +C52mUHWvMB0-00451-00109504-00109827 subs origin and then a threat component +C52mUHWvMB0-00452-00109828-00110166 that compares our radius to the radius +C52mUHWvMB0-00453-00110167-00110398 of this sub which is effectively just +C52mUHWvMB0-00454-00110399-00110632 time takes the difference of those and +C52mUHWvMB0-00455-00110633-00110814 that's this range variable range to sub +C52mUHWvMB0-00456-00110815-00111694 that we need to avoid well I'll leave +C52mUHWvMB0-00457-00111695-00111864 this in this mode right now before I +C52mUHWvMB0-00458-00111865-00112171 switch out to my IDE so this is the +C52mUHWvMB0-00459-00112172-00112558 class definition of the OD e for my +C52mUHWvMB0-00460-00112558-00112801 optimal control problem this class is +C52mUHWvMB0-00461-00112802-00113119 just an open M do group the OD e could +C52mUHWvMB0-00462-00113120-00113350 also be just a component if it were +C52mUHWvMB0-00463-00113351-00113506 simple enough I probably could have done +C52mUHWvMB0-00464-00113507-00113694 all these computations in one component +C52mUHWvMB0-00465-00113695-00113938 but conceptually sometimes it's easier +C52mUHWvMB0-00466-00113939-00114063 for me to explain things through the +C52mUHWvMB0-00467-00114064-00114465 next DSM so I separated them out so we +C52mUHWvMB0-00468-00114466-00114700 have our equations of motion component +C52mUHWvMB0-00469-00114701-00114978 which is defined in another file our +C52mUHWvMB0-00470-00114979-00115147 navigation component and our threat +C52mUHWvMB0-00471-00115148-00115326 component our threat component in this +C52mUHWvMB0-00472-00115327-00115659 case is just an open MDX comp exec comp +C52mUHWvMB0-00473-00115660-00116119 does nothing other then parse parse the +C52mUHWvMB0-00474-00116120-00116368 string equation instead of having us to +C52mUHWvMB0-00475-00116369-00116586 find a compute method so our exec comp +C52mUHWvMB0-00476-00116588-00116773 is going to compute the sub range which +C52mUHWvMB0-00477-00116774-00117260 is the radius of the ship - - time +C52mUHWvMB0-00478-00117261-00117489 because time is also as we said before +C52mUHWvMB0-00479-00117490-00118183 the radius so I know John in his talk +C52mUHWvMB0-00480-00118183-00118444 before kind of defined all these things +C52mUHWvMB0-00481-00118445-00118638 with numb nodes numb nodes is important +C52mUHWvMB0-00482-00118639-00118929 - that's essentially a Deimos ism Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-00483-00118930-00119320 needs to be able to compute my OD he at +C52mUHWvMB0-00484-00119321-00119557 many points simultaneously how many sub +C52mUHWvMB0-00485-00119558-00119808 points it's computing it at is somewhat +C52mUHWvMB0-00486-00119809-00120135 unknown it's a function of what we call +C52mUHWvMB0-00487-00120136-00120261 the collocation grid +C52mUHWvMB0-00488-00120263-00120502 I'll get into that in a bit all I know +C52mUHWvMB0-00489-00120503-00120673 is that I want dynamos to be able +C52mUHWvMB0-00490-00120674-00120940 instantiate my Eau de with some given +C52mUHWvMB0-00491-00120941-00121099 number of nodes and then I'm going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00492-00121100-00121420 take that many in essentially an input +C52mUHWvMB0-00493-00121421-00121710 for each state at each node in time and +C52mUHWvMB0-00494-00121711-00122019 then and compute an output for each +C52mUHWvMB0-00495-00122020-00122422 output variable at each node in time and +C52mUHWvMB0-00496-00122423-00122853 then to finish off the OTE I'm not using +C52mUHWvMB0-00497-00122854-00123060 promotes here so I'm going to explicitly +C52mUHWvMB0-00498-00123061-00123319 connect the navigations compound our +C52mUHWvMB0-00499-00123320-00123654 ship to the one that the threat comp +C52mUHWvMB0-00500-00123655-00123874 needs what you don't see here are +C52mUHWvMB0-00501-00123875-00124081 connections of time or the states going +C52mUHWvMB0-00502-00124082-00124227 into these and we're going to handle +C52mUHWvMB0-00503-00124228-00124452 those momentarily and I'll show them to +C52mUHWvMB0-00504-00124453-00124999 you then so just this is me talking +C52mUHWvMB0-00505-00125000-00125143 through things and being nervous and +C52mUHWvMB0-00506-00125144-00125253 talking about things before I have the +C52mUHWvMB0-00507-00125254-00125638 slides that point to them so essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00508-00125639-00125821 the summary of our problem is we have a +C52mUHWvMB0-00509-00125822-00126169 single phase we have one OD e there are +C52mUHWvMB0-00510-00126170-00126384 no intermediate boundary constraints we +C52mUHWvMB0-00511-00126385-00126708 have two state variables x and y we have +C52mUHWvMB0-00512-00126709-00127008 one design parameter v our ships going +C52mUHWvMB0-00513-00127009-00127222 to be moving constantly at that given +C52mUHWvMB0-00514-00127223-00127416 velocity we have one did I name it +C52mUHWvMB0-00515-00127417-00127653 control or azimuth angle or fee and our +C52mUHWvMB0-00516-00127654-00127923 objective is to minimize the value of V +C52mUHWvMB0-00517-00127924-00128326 such that such that we safely make it +C52mUHWvMB0-00518-00128327-00128488 back to port we want to know how slowly +C52mUHWvMB0-00519-00128489-00128671 can we possibly build our ship to be and +C52mUHWvMB0-00520-00128672-00129144 still survive this next we're going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00521-00129145-00129702 move on to setting up the problem so +C52mUHWvMB0-00522-00129703-00129856 this is essentially the run script that +C52mUHWvMB0-00523-00129857-00130053 I would use to invoke this problem in +C52mUHWvMB0-00524-00130054-00130334 open mdo +C52mUHWvMB0-00525-00130335-00130900 so we import open M Dao API as om I kind +C52mUHWvMB0-00526-00130901-00131391 of have commandeered e m4 Dinos so we +C52mUHWvMB0-00527-00131392-00131674 instantiate a problem we say our problem +C52mUHWvMB0-00528-00131675-00131884 is just an empty group to that problem +C52mUHWvMB0-00529-00131885-00132076 I'm going to add a trajectory which is +C52mUHWvMB0-00530-00132077-00132429 just D and on trajectory technically +C52mUHWvMB0-00531-00132430-00132741 this is a single-phase problem we don't +C52mUHWvMB0-00532-00132742-00132891 have any phases to link together which +C52mUHWvMB0-00533-00132892-00133102 is mostly what trajectories help you to +C52mUHWvMB0-00534-00133103-00133404 do so technically here a trajectory is +C52mUHWvMB0-00535-00133405-00133590 unnecessary I think it's good practice +C52mUHWvMB0-00536-00133591-00133719 to put them in +C52mUHWvMB0-00537-00133720-00133914 especially for documentation I want to +C52mUHWvMB0-00538-00133915-00134211 get users used to the notion of having a +C52mUHWvMB0-00539-00134212-00134454 problem containing odd trajectory and +C52mUHWvMB0-00540-00134455-00134610 then one or more phases in that +C52mUHWvMB0-00541-00134611-00134937 trajectory and then I create a phase so +C52mUHWvMB0-00542-00134938-00135171 this phase is just a portion of this +C52mUHWvMB0-00543-00135172-00135372 directory in this case it's the entirety +C52mUHWvMB0-00544-00135373-00135774 of the trajectory that phase marries +C52mUHWvMB0-00545-00135775-00135996 together two concepts it takes the OD e +C52mUHWvMB0-00546-00135997-00136137 class which I showed you in the last +C52mUHWvMB0-00547-00136138-00136461 slide sorry Donner sub OD e and it takes +C52mUHWvMB0-00548-00136462-00136644 a transcription and a transcription and +C52mUHWvMB0-00549-00136645-00136971 is effectively the optimal control +C52mUHWvMB0-00550-00136972-00137154 technique that we're going to use to +C52mUHWvMB0-00551-00137155-00137494 take a the optimal control problem and +C52mUHWvMB0-00552-00137495-00137625 which you're technically trying to find +C52mUHWvMB0-00553-00137626-00137814 a function in time and we're going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00554-00137815-00138066 convert it to a discrete nonlinear +C52mUHWvMB0-00555-00138067-00138279 programming problem that's something +C52mUHWvMB0-00556-00138280-00138801 like S&OP duress lsq P can solve and +C52mUHWvMB0-00557-00138802-00139119 then after that we add the phase to our +C52mUHWvMB0-00558-00139120-00139386 trajectory we add the trajectory to our +C52mUHWvMB0-00559-00139387-00139797 model and we're good I'm very shortly +C52mUHWvMB0-00560-00139798-00139920 here I'm going to switch out to the IDE +C52mUHWvMB0-00561-00139921-00140162 and kind of go into more detail on that +C52mUHWvMB0-00562-00140163-00140431 so what is the transcription anyway like +C52mUHWvMB0-00563-00140432-00140673 I said a transcription can converts a +C52mUHWvMB0-00564-00140674-00140871 continuous optimal control problem into +C52mUHWvMB0-00565-00140872-00141209 a discrete NLP problem the key feature +C52mUHWvMB0-00566-00141210-00141456 that you should probably be aware of for +C52mUHWvMB0-00567-00141457-00141696 today is that it contains something +C52mUHWvMB0-00568-00141697-00142029 called a grid or mesh as our colleague +C52mUHWvMB0-00569-00142030-00142227 Jeff Chen said collocation techniques +C52mUHWvMB0-00570-00142228-00142425 are really just finite element methods +C52mUHWvMB0-00571-00142426-00142794 that are in time instead of in space so +C52mUHWvMB0-00572-00142795-00142944 basically we have a certain number of +C52mUHWvMB0-00573-00142945-00143106 points spread throughout the trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-00574-00143107-00143307 time history and we're trying to find +C52mUHWvMB0-00575-00143308-00143619 the values the position of essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00576-00143620-00143731 the position of the vehicle in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00577-00143732-00143925 controls of the vehicle at all the +C52mUHWvMB0-00578-00143926-00144357 points throughout that trajectory I can +C52mUHWvMB0-00579-00144358-00144544 make a grid in this case with pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-00580-00144545-00144741 spectral methods the grid essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00581-00144742-00144939 controls how many polynomial segments +C52mUHWvMB0-00582-00144940-00145140 I'm using to represent each state or +C52mUHWvMB0-00583-00145141-00145494 each control I can have a lot of high +C52mUHWvMB0-00584-00145495-00145934 order or s sorry I can have very few +C52mUHWvMB0-00585-00145935-00146190 high order segments so just a few +C52mUHWvMB0-00586-00146191-00146346 segments of like 20 first polynomial +C52mUHWvMB0-00587-00146347-00146910 order or I can have a lot of +C52mUHWvMB0-00588-00146911-00147104 very low order segments like 20 third +C52mUHWvMB0-00589-00147105-00147369 order segments I tend to err on the side +C52mUHWvMB0-00590-00147370-00147573 of having a lot of low order segments +C52mUHWvMB0-00591-00147574-00147894 you get better sparsity that I'll show +C52mUHWvMB0-00592-00147895-00148286 later and we also are just now working +C52mUHWvMB0-00593-00148287-00148473 on a grid refinement algorithm that +C52mUHWvMB0-00594-00148474-00148584 we'll look through there and say well +C52mUHWvMB0-00595-00148585-00148746 okay you can start with that and if that +C52mUHWvMB0-00596-00148747-00148886 doesn't work out we'll start increasing +C52mUHWvMB0-00597-00148887-00149094 the order of your polynomials or adding +C52mUHWvMB0-00598-00149095-00149300 more segments and as necessary in order +C52mUHWvMB0-00599-00149301-00149576 to fix the accuracy of your collocation +C52mUHWvMB0-00600-00149577-00150093 grid so the two methods I talked a +C52mUHWvMB0-00601-00150094-00150297 little bit about earlier where the high +C52mUHWvMB0-00602-00150298-00150476 order Legendre Gauss lobato +C52mUHWvMB0-00603-00150477-00150788 transcription by Herman and Conway this +C52mUHWvMB0-00604-00150789-00150965 is a generalization of an older +C52mUHWvMB0-00605-00150966-00151151 technique that Herman Herman Simpson +C52mUHWvMB0-00606-00151152-00151323 technique which was I think pioneered by +C52mUHWvMB0-00607-00151324-00151649 demons and wells in my teens the 1970s +C52mUHWvMB0-00608-00151650-00151877 and then later Steve Parris and Charles +C52mUHWvMB0-00609-00151878-00152046 Hargreaves at Boeing used that as a +C52mUHWvMB0-00610-00152047-00152307 sense and expanded on that as the basis +C52mUHWvMB0-00611-00152308-00152528 for Otis dikmen's and wells solved +C52mUHWvMB0-00612-00152529-00152697 optimal control problems the old way +C52mUHWvMB0-00613-00152698-00152885 they turned everything into two point +C52mUHWvMB0-00614-00152886-00153069 boundary value problems with with Co +C52mUHWvMB0-00615-00153070-00153381 states that were you know if you haven't +C52mUHWvMB0-00616-00153382-00153536 if you don't do optimal control we +C52mUHWvMB0-00617-00153537-00153648 probably don't know what a co state is +C52mUHWvMB0-00618-00153649-00154112 and you're better off word paracin +C52mUHWvMB0-00619-00154113-00154308 Hargraves applied that technique and +C52mUHWvMB0-00620-00154309-00154436 said hey look we don't even need to +C52mUHWvMB0-00621-00154437-00154604 bother with these Co States +C52mUHWvMB0-00622-00154605-00154904 it still works great admittedly the +C52mUHWvMB0-00623-00154905-00155073 techniques used in ODIs are a little +C52mUHWvMB0-00624-00155074-00155307 less rigorous some of that rigors since +C52mUHWvMB0-00625-00155308-00155469 been put back in to these pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-00626-00155470-00155962 spectral techniques by Ennio Rao and +C52mUHWvMB0-00627-00155963-00156551 Mike Ross and a bunch of others so this +C52mUHWvMB0-00628-00156552-00156785 is the initial guess of a state variable +C52mUHWvMB0-00629-00156786-00156933 I think technically this is the flight +C52mUHWvMB0-00630-00156934-00157194 path angle in my minimum time to climb +C52mUHWvMB0-00631-00157195-00157529 examples so this is I'm guessing that my +C52mUHWvMB0-00632-00157530-00157760 flight path angle and this is Alexander +C52mUHWvMB0-00633-00157761-00158058 Baus Gauss libido transcription this is +C52mUHWvMB0-00634-00158059-00158486 I believe 1010 polynomial segments they +C52mUHWvMB0-00635-00158487-00159027 are spaced +C52mUHWvMB0-00636-00159028-00159303 ten polynomial segments spaced equally +C52mUHWvMB0-00637-00159304-00159484 in time they are third-order a +C52mUHWvMB0-00638-00159485-00159712 third-order polynomial segment needs +C52mUHWvMB0-00639-00159713-00160003 four pieces of information to give me a +C52mUHWvMB0-00640-00160004-00160198 pod to forgive me a proper third order +C52mUHWvMB0-00641-00160199-00160513 polynomial so for each segment we have +C52mUHWvMB0-00642-00160514-00160675 what we call the discretization nodes +C52mUHWvMB0-00643-00160676-00160878 here which are the circles and we have +C52mUHWvMB0-00644-00160879-00161265 the collocation nodes which are the +C52mUHWvMB0-00645-00161266-00161635 triangles so I've guessed the values of +C52mUHWvMB0-00646-00161636-00161928 my state at my discretization nodes I +C52mUHWvMB0-00647-00161929-00162216 evaluate the values I evaluate my OD e +C52mUHWvMB0-00648-00162217-00162409 at those state descritization nodes and +C52mUHWvMB0-00649-00162410-00162760 now that I have values and rates there +C52mUHWvMB0-00650-00162761-00162889 because that's what the OD he gives me +C52mUHWvMB0-00651-00162890-00163075 is it is there eight with the values and +C52mUHWvMB0-00652-00163076-00163246 rates there I have my two people my four +C52mUHWvMB0-00653-00163247-00163498 pieces of information I can now form an +C52mUHWvMB0-00654-00163499-00163663 interpolating polynomial which are in +C52mUHWvMB0-00655-00163664-00163888 these like gray that interpolating +C52mUHWvMB0-00656-00163889-00164272 polynomial then we reevaluate it in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00657-00164273-00164575 case of a third order polynomial the we +C52mUHWvMB0-00658-00164576-00164904 evaluate it at the midpoint and then now +C52mUHWvMB0-00659-00164905-00165097 we have two estimates for the slope of +C52mUHWvMB0-00660-00165098-00165303 that polynomial we have an estimate that +C52mUHWvMB0-00661-00165304-00165511 comes from and the slope of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00662-00165512-00165694 interpolating polynomial and we can +C52mUHWvMB0-00663-00165695-00165895 re-evaluate the OD e at these midpoints +C52mUHWvMB0-00664-00165896-00166447 and get estimates from for the rate of +C52mUHWvMB0-00665-00166448-00166665 the state variable based on evaluating +C52mUHWvMB0-00666-00166666-00166969 OD we have these two competing pieces of +C52mUHWvMB0-00667-00166970-00167173 information and effectively we're going +C52mUHWvMB0-00668-00167174-00167383 to drive what these are what we call the +C52mUHWvMB0-00669-00167384-00167572 differential defects or just the defects +C52mUHWvMB0-00670-00167573-00167754 we're going to drive those to zero when +C52mUHWvMB0-00671-00167755-00168046 we drive those to zero in theory as long +C52mUHWvMB0-00672-00168047-00168228 as we have enough points then our +C52mUHWvMB0-00673-00168229-00168415 polynomial time history here will match +C52mUHWvMB0-00674-00168416-00168610 physics if we don't have enough points +C52mUHWvMB0-00675-00168611-00168838 that's a different different story and +C52mUHWvMB0-00676-00168839-00169065 then once we're feasible and we're +C52mUHWvMB0-00677-00169066-00169333 matching physics then typically we hit +C52mUHWvMB0-00678-00169334-00169483 that point first and then the optimizer +C52mUHWvMB0-00679-00169484-00169774 will continue to drive these until not +C52mUHWvMB0-00680-00169775-00169915 only are they feasible but they're also +C52mUHWvMB0-00681-00169916-00170200 optimally satisfying our optimal control +C52mUHWvMB0-00682-00170201-00170659 problem so this is in this case what SN +C52mUHWvMB0-00683-00170660-00170908 Ops doing it's twerking the values at +C52mUHWvMB0-00684-00170909-00171085 the circles the values of our flight +C52mUHWvMB0-00685-00171086-00171399 path angle the discretization nodes +C52mUHWvMB0-00686-00171400-00171736 until the disagreement between the blue +C52mUHWvMB0-00687-00171737-00172087 and the red arrows goes away +C52mUHWvMB0-00689-00175237-00175386 would think in that case one of them +C52mUHWvMB0-00690-00175387-00175541 would be the limiting case but in theory +C52mUHWvMB0-00691-00175542-00176312 yes you can do that well in the in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00692-00176313-00176528 very the very basic formulation of this +C52mUHWvMB0-00693-00176529-00176886 problem one ship if you if you have +C52mUHWvMB0-00694-00176887-00177009 multiple ships than one ship is +C52mUHWvMB0-00695-00177010-00177275 potentially closest to the sub that ship +C52mUHWvMB0-00696-00177276-00177447 is going to be in danger first so that +C52mUHWvMB0-00697-00177448-00177657 ship needs to be the fastest so if +C52mUHWvMB0-00698-00177658-00177849 there's if the speed of your ship is +C52mUHWvMB0-00699-00177850-00178110 determined it is essentially determined +C52mUHWvMB0-00700-00178111-00178238 by the limiting case then I give that +C52mUHWvMB0-00701-00178239-00179135 case that would be the one that mattered +C52mUHWvMB0-00702-00179136-00179552 this the math here is much more where +C52mUHWvMB0-00703-00179553-00179709 this is much more of a toy problem +C52mUHWvMB0-00704-00179710-00179949 you're right like if if the sub was +C52mUHWvMB0-00705-00179950-00180089 intelligent then it would pick a target +C52mUHWvMB0-00706-00180090-00180338 to chase all we know here is the sub has +C52mUHWvMB0-00707-00180339-00180549 a given speed and and it's essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00708-00180550-00180732 its position where it possibly could be +C52mUHWvMB0-00709-00180733-00180870 that we don't know but its position +C52mUHWvMB0-00710-00180871-00181025 where it's possibly beat could be this +C52mUHWvMB0-00711-00181026-00181209 is growing out as a circle and all we're +C52mUHWvMB0-00712-00181210-00181400 basically trying to do is get back to +C52mUHWvMB0-00713-00181401-00181575 our port while avoid the avoiding that +C52mUHWvMB0-00714-00181576-00183706 circle as we go +C52mUHWvMB0-00715-00183707-00184173 I think there are other people here +C52mUHWvMB0-00716-00184174-00184339 unfortunately that's not been my +C52mUHWvMB0-00717-00184340-00184513 expertise I don't know how much of a +C52mUHWvMB0-00718-00184514-00184756 dynamic problem that is compared to just +C52mUHWvMB0-00719-00184757-00185086 you know let's assume a constant wind if +C52mUHWvMB0-00720-00185087-00185239 you're assuming a constant wind and a +C52mUHWvMB0-00721-00185240-00185482 then you just place your and please +C52mUHWvMB0-00722-00185483-00185617 correct me if I'm wrong because because +C52mUHWvMB0-00723-00185618-00185884 I'm approximating here but i but i but i +C52mUHWvMB0-00724-00185885-00186088 think that's generally not as dynamic a +C52mUHWvMB0-00725-00186089-00186256 problem although you could treat it as +C52mUHWvMB0-00726-00186257-00186409 one if you wanted the wind profile to +C52mUHWvMB0-00727-00186410-00186832 change speed and things like that but so +C52mUHWvMB0-00728-00186833-00187024 i guess the long answer is yes but the +C52mUHWvMB0-00729-00187025-00187228 short answer is you probably wouldn't +C52mUHWvMB0-00730-00187229-00189498 start with that kind of analysis okay +C52mUHWvMB0-00731-00189499-00190401 okay okay +C52mUHWvMB0-00732-00190402-00190611 here +C52mUHWvMB0-00733-00190612-00190896 all right the other of the pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-00734-00190897-00191039 spectral methods that we support is the +C52mUHWvMB0-00735-00191040-00191301 reduce to no spectral method which most +C52mUHWvMB0-00736-00191302-00191460 of the literature on this is by Rao +C52mUHWvMB0-00737-00191461-00191714 Peterson gar and others from the +C52mUHWvMB0-00738-00191715-00191876 University of Florida +C52mUHWvMB0-00739-00191877-00192195 this method is similar to Gauss lobato +C52mUHWvMB0-00740-00192196-00192454 they both are using these special nodes +C52mUHWvMB0-00741-00192455-00192857 essentially minimize our integration err +C52mUHWvMB0-00742-00192858-00193347 they use their word al nodes their +C52mUHWvMB0-00743-00193348-00193652 method has more variables in it than the +C52mUHWvMB0-00744-00193653-00193838 equivalent accuracy Gauss lobato problem +C52mUHWvMB0-00745-00193839-00194051 but their ad method also doesn't require +C52mUHWvMB0-00746-00194052-00194334 that intermediate interpolation step so +C52mUHWvMB0-00747-00194335-00194627 if you notice up here on my initial +C52mUHWvMB0-00748-00194628-00194835 interpolation I'm specifying constant +C52mUHWvMB0-00749-00194836-00195099 value of 0 for all for all values +C52mUHWvMB0-00750-00195100-00195270 throughout time but things are getting +C52mUHWvMB0-00751-00195271-00195483 interpolated and ending up with some non +C52mUHWvMB0-00752-00195484-00195975 non zero values of of my flight path +C52mUHWvMB0-00753-00195976-00196344 angle here if I had for instance a +C52mUHWvMB0-00754-00196345-00196620 solver in my OTE that was reliant on +C52mUHWvMB0-00755-00196621-00196800 getting reasonable values in order to +C52mUHWvMB0-00756-00196801-00197013 converge this interpolation step with a +C52mUHWvMB0-00757-00197014-00197240 bad guess could throw me off and I would +C52mUHWvMB0-00758-00197241-00197378 essentially you know have a hard time +C52mUHWvMB0-00759-00197379-00197574 getting my solver inside the OD e to +C52mUHWvMB0-00760-00197575-00197888 converge that's where in our experience +C52mUHWvMB0-00761-00197889-00198099 the renown method has really shined is +C52mUHWvMB0-00762-00198100-00198249 that even though you have this larger +C52mUHWvMB0-00763-00198250-00198638 problem I can directly control +C52mUHWvMB0-00764-00198639-00198866 essentially through bounds parameters +C52mUHWvMB0-00765-00198867-00199050 the maximum allowable and minimum +C52mUHWvMB0-00766-00199051-00199328 allowable bound of my of my state +C52mUHWvMB0-00767-00199329-00199551 variables and it provides fewer +C52mUHWvMB0-00768-00199552-00199901 surprises to any iterative systems +C52mUHWvMB0-00769-00199902-00200409 inside my OD so this one's much more +C52mUHWvMB0-00770-00200410-00200649 dense but this is essentially showing +C52mUHWvMB0-00771-00200650-00200919 showing the same thing the difference in +C52mUHWvMB0-00772-00200920-00201128 our interpolation nodes or so the +C52mUHWvMB0-00773-00201129-00201450 difference between the values of our +C52mUHWvMB0-00774-00201451-00201696 derivatives of our states between the +C52mUHWvMB0-00775-00201697-00201890 slopes of our interpolating polynomial +C52mUHWvMB0-00776-00201891-00202023 which are zero in this case because +C52mUHWvMB0-00777-00202024-00202260 everything's just going horizontally and +C52mUHWvMB0-00778-00202261-00202581 and our computed values coming out of +C52mUHWvMB0-00779-00202582-00203118 the E +C52mUHWvMB0-00780-00203119-00203838 I believe this is still 10 polynomials +C52mUHWvMB0-00781-00203839-00203991 there were downloads are not equally +C52mUHWvMB0-00782-00203992-00204438 spaced but it's somewhat misleading when +C52mUHWvMB0-00783-00204439-00204627 you show gauss Lovato with third order +C52mUHWvMB0-00784-00204628-00204828 because there's only a left end point a +C52mUHWvMB0-00785-00204829-00205121 right endpoint and a midpoint as you get +C52mUHWvMB0-00786-00205123-00205359 to higher order Lovato nodes they tend +C52mUHWvMB0-00787-00205360-00205485 to group themselves at the edges of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00788-00205486-00205785 polynomial with Rogalla nodes they tend +C52mUHWvMB0-00789-00205786-00205967 to the nodes tend to bunch themselves at +C52mUHWvMB0-00790-00205969-00206171 the end of each polynomial so you'll see +C52mUHWvMB0-00791-00206171-00206436 like on the left side there's node node +C52mUHWvMB0-00792-00206437-00206613 and then two nodes bunched up so that +C52mUHWvMB0-00793-00206614-00206853 defines that the first polynomial where +C52mUHWvMB0-00794-00206854-00207044 Dow is not using the rate information to +C52mUHWvMB0-00795-00207046-00207140 do the interpolation +C52mUHWvMB0-00796-00207141-00207398 unlike the Lovato method so our four +C52mUHWvMB0-00797-00207400-00207537 pieces of information are coming from +C52mUHWvMB0-00798-00207538-00207719 the values of those four nodes that's +C52mUHWvMB0-00799-00207721-00207890 why there's more variables here because +C52mUHWvMB0-00800-00207891-00208203 for a third order polynomial I need four +C52mUHWvMB0-00801-00208204-00210076 state values +C52mUHWvMB0-00802-00210077-00211458 Oh next slide please +C52mUHWvMB0-00803-00211459-00211652 having a little trouble getting to my +C52mUHWvMB0-00804-00211653-00213288 next slide yep Oh +C52mUHWvMB0-00805-00213289-00213479 I dunno why cuz that was the last line +C52mUHWvMB0-00806-00213480-00213704 there you go derp +C52mUHWvMB0-00807-00213705-00213963 alright so now I'm gonna switch to my +C52mUHWvMB0-00808-00213964-00214239 IDE let me blow things up here and make +C52mUHWvMB0-00810-00217477-00218233 can you all read that it can good okay +C52mUHWvMB0-00811-00218234-00218471 so this is the problem I was talking +C52mUHWvMB0-00812-00218473-00218885 about where define our trajectory we +C52mUHWvMB0-00813-00218886-00219071 instantiate our phase we had that phase +C52mUHWvMB0-00814-00219073-00219267 tour to the trajectory and then add that +C52mUHWvMB0-00815-00219267-00219610 trajectory to our model the next step is +C52mUHWvMB0-00816-00219611-00219900 configuring the phase so we need to +C52mUHWvMB0-00817-00219901-00220026 worry about a few things we need to +C52mUHWvMB0-00818-00220027-00220210 worry about how our phase considers time +C52mUHWvMB0-00819-00220211-00220508 the states involved in our phase the +C52mUHWvMB0-00820-00220509-00220731 design parameters or controls and any +C52mUHWvMB0-00821-00220732-00221009 constraints and if our phase has +C52mUHWvMB0-00822-00221010-00221246 essentially earth our phase has an +C52mUHWvMB0-00823-00221248-00221400 objective function then the objective +C52mUHWvMB0-00824-00221401-00221646 function of our phase so here we're +C52mUHWvMB0-00825-00221646-00221909 setting the time options or telling it +C52mUHWvMB0-00826-00221910-00222569 that our time is unitless are talked at +C52mUHWvMB0-00827-00222571-00222884 the time inside of our Eau de needs to +C52mUHWvMB0-00828-00222885-00223119 get connected to the path threat comp +C52mUHWvMB0-00829-00223119-00223425 that time so regardless of where our +C52mUHWvMB0-00830-00223426-00223638 phase then the transcription method uses +C52mUHWvMB0-00831-00223639-00223887 when it instantiates our Eau de it knows +C52mUHWvMB0-00832-00223888-00224100 to connect our time variable to that +C52mUHWvMB0-00833-00224101-00224669 value our initial time is fixed so we +C52mUHWvMB0-00834-00224671-00224976 just say that here so whatever value I +C52mUHWvMB0-00835-00224977-00225158 specify is the initial time of my +C52mUHWvMB0-00836-00225159-00225335 problem will not be a design parameter +C52mUHWvMB0-00837-00225336-00225627 for the optimization and then the +C52mUHWvMB0-00838-00225628-00225894 duration bounds are between 0.1 seconds +C52mUHWvMB0-00839-00225894-00226146 and or a point one time units since its +C52mUHWvMB0-00840-00226146-00226557 you know s and 100 time units next are +C52mUHWvMB0-00841-00226558-00226902 our states so I come here and I say okay +C52mUHWvMB0-00842-00226903-00227079 I'm going to add a state variable named +C52mUHWvMB0-00843-00227080-00227439 X the rate source of X within the Eau de +C52mUHWvMB0-00844-00227440-00227933 is given by e om comp dot DX DT if I go +C52mUHWvMB0-00845-00227934-00228634 up to here's the OD e I showed earlier +C52mUHWvMB0-00846-00228635-00229942 if I then go +C52mUHWvMB0-00847-00229944-00230216 this is my OTO and I'm comp definition +C52mUHWvMB0-00848-00230217-00230569 so I have four in two inputs velocity +C52mUHWvMB0-00849-00230570-00230794 and heading angle or azimuth angle and +C52mUHWvMB0-00850-00230795-00231038 two outputs essentially east-west +C52mUHWvMB0-00851-00231039-00231931 velocity and north-south velocity not +C52mUHWvMB0-00852-00231932-00232201 only do I need to give it the rate +C52mUHWvMB0-00853-00232202-00232412 source of my state's some parameters in +C52mUHWvMB0-00854-00232413-00232613 my OD e and this is not universally true +C52mUHWvMB0-00855-00232614-00232768 for all problems but some parameters in +C52mUHWvMB0-00856-00232769-00232984 my OD e are functions of X and some are +C52mUHWvMB0-00857-00232985-00233335 functions Y namely my navigation my +C52mUHWvMB0-00858-00233336-00233548 radius of my ship from the center of a +C52mUHWvMB0-00859-00233549-00233816 sub or sub starting position so I need +C52mUHWvMB0-00860-00233817-00234212 to specify the targets here and then I +C52mUHWvMB0-00861-00234213-00234553 know where my ship is starting at the +C52mUHWvMB0-00862-00234554-00234727 initial time so I'm going to say that +C52mUHWvMB0-00863-00234728-00235069 its initial X&Y positions are fixed and +C52mUHWvMB0-00864-00235070-00235258 I know where I want to go I know where +C52mUHWvMB0-00865-00235259-00235720 my harbor is so the final X&Y positions +C52mUHWvMB0-00866-00235721-00235916 are fixed when I was showing you those +C52mUHWvMB0-00867-00235917-00236083 polynomials that were evolving earlier +C52mUHWvMB0-00868-00236084-00236251 when I fix those what I effectively +C52mUHWvMB0-00869-00236252-00236441 means is that this node and this node +C52mUHWvMB0-00870-00236442-00236620 are not design variables they can't move +C52mUHWvMB0-00871-00236621-00236827 I have to change the other other nodes +C52mUHWvMB0-00872-00236828-00237124 the other values of my x and y +C52mUHWvMB0-00873-00237125-00237349 throughout time in order to comply with +C52mUHWvMB0-00874-00237350-00237542 physics but these last two values are +C52mUHWvMB0-00875-00237542-00237737 not allowed to change the other +C52mUHWvMB0-00876-00237738-00237917 alternative that we could have done is +C52mUHWvMB0-00877-00237917-00238153 to say okay I'm going to let them be +C52mUHWvMB0-00878-00238154-00238412 free but I'm going to use an equipment +C52mUHWvMB0-00879-00238413-00238654 strain on an output effectively I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-00880-00238655-00238862 going to tell open em Dao after the fact +C52mUHWvMB0-00881-00238863-00238993 it's like when this is all said and done +C52mUHWvMB0-00882-00238994-00239182 you have to end up with my boundary +C52mUHWvMB0-00883-00239183-00239368 constraint locations where my harbor is +C52mUHWvMB0-00884-00239369-00239612 on the far end and where I start on the +C52mUHWvMB0-00885-00239613-00239959 initial end um it's similar to in +C52mUHWvMB0-00886-00239960-00240169 today's first talk Anil was talking +C52mUHWvMB0-00887-00240170-00240437 about how the optimizer sometimes likes +C52mUHWvMB0-00888-00240438-00240692 to violate the feasible space in order +C52mUHWvMB0-00889-00240692-00240919 to get a better solution with these +C52mUHWvMB0-00890-00240920-00241064 pseudo spectral methods one of the +C52mUHWvMB0-00891-00241065-00241279 advantages of them is that it's not a +C52mUHWvMB0-00892-00241280-00241456 real trajectory at every iteration it's +C52mUHWvMB0-00893-00241457-00241637 kind of just guessing you know what if I +C52mUHWvMB0-00894-00241638-00241771 lay these points out like this what if I +C52mUHWvMB0-00895-00241772-00241942 lay these points out like this it might +C52mUHWvMB0-00896-00241944-00242165 find that oh if I if I play in this part +C52mUHWvMB0-00897-00242166-00242281 of the space up here I get something +C52mUHWvMB0-00898-00242282-00242428 good but it's really hard to figure out +C52mUHWvMB0-00899-00242429-00242623 how to get there from here and if I have +C52mUHWvMB0-00900-00242624-00242896 a shooting method where I'm constrained +C52mUHWvMB0-00901-00242897-00243119 to at each iteration +C52mUHWvMB0-00902-00243119-00243287 have a physical trajectory it might be +C52mUHWvMB0-00903-00243288-00243452 difficult for me to like jump some kind +C52mUHWvMB0-00904-00243453-00243748 of barrier that might be in the in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00905-00243750-00243917 space in between by having these +C52mUHWvMB0-00906-00243917-00244129 implicit methods it can start to play up +C52mUHWvMB0-00907-00244130-00244265 there and say oh I really want to figure +C52mUHWvMB0-00908-00244266-00244405 out a way to make this happen and it'll +C52mUHWvMB0-00909-00244406-00244621 work on that it's kind of similar to the +C52mUHWvMB0-00910-00244621-00244928 way a nails code was kind of finding +C52mUHWvMB0-00911-00244929-00245252 these intermediate 'invalid essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00912-00245253-00245479 uh infeasible solutions and then working +C52mUHWvMB0-00913-00245480-00245615 back to the best possible case from +C52mUHWvMB0-00914-00245616-00246275 there I add my design parameter which is +C52mUHWvMB0-00915-00246276-00246594 I'm calling V and then that gets +C52mUHWvMB0-00916-00246596-00247030 connected and in the OD e - yo and +C52mUHWvMB0-00917-00247031-00247301 convey I'm telling it that I want it to +C52mUHWvMB0-00918-00247302-00247544 be optimal really what adding design +C52mUHWvMB0-00919-00247544-00247691 parameter is going under the hood in +C52mUHWvMB0-00920-00247692-00247882 this phase it's creating an in-depth our +C52mUHWvMB0-00921-00247883-00248165 comp that owns this variable so by +C52mUHWvMB0-00922-00248166-00248300 adding a design parameter here +C52mUHWvMB0-00923-00248301-00248548 effectively I'm saying this this phase +C52mUHWvMB0-00924-00248550-00248779 owns that variable if I want it to be +C52mUHWvMB0-00925-00248780-00248953 optimized I just say true and it'll +C52mUHWvMB0-00926-00248954-00249160 automatically add it as also as a design +C52mUHWvMB0-00927-00249161-00249389 parameter with any upper and lower +C52mUHWvMB0-00928-00249390-00249587 bounds that I specify also if I have +C52mUHWvMB0-00929-00249588-00249760 scaling either through scalar and adder +C52mUHWvMB0-00930-00249761-00250037 or ref zero and ref I can impose those +C52mUHWvMB0-00931-00250038-00250531 here I didn't talk about scaling you can +C52mUHWvMB0-00932-00250532-00250717 also apply scaling to both the states +C52mUHWvMB0-00933-00250719-00250948 and the state defects I can get into +C52mUHWvMB0-00934-00250950-00251305 that a little bit later my dynamic +C52mUHWvMB0-00935-00251306-00251888 control variable is is Phi here's its +C52mUHWvMB0-00936-00251889-00252208 target in the OD e and its units are in +C52mUHWvMB0-00937-00252209-00252808 radians by default and then I have this +C52mUHWvMB0-00938-00252809-00252998 path constraint that I need to satisfy I +C52mUHWvMB0-00939-00252998-00253357 want the subrange to never go below zero +C52mUHWvMB0-00940-00253358-00253628 I'm thinking personally if I was on the +C52mUHWvMB0-00941-00253629-00253763 ship I would never want it to go below +C52mUHWvMB0-00942-00253764-00253930 100 but I'm just going to go with this +C52mUHWvMB0-00943-00253931-00254063 for now because that's kind of the way +C52mUHWvMB0-00944-00254064-00254198 the solution of the problem online is +C52mUHWvMB0-00945-00254198-00254627 posed and then I had an objective to my +C52mUHWvMB0-00946-00254628-00254687 face +C52mUHWvMB0-00947-00254688-00255081 since my phase knows that V is one of my +C52mUHWvMB0-00948-00255082-00255307 optimal control variables it's a design +C52mUHWvMB0-00949-00255308-00255505 parameter it looks through here and says +C52mUHWvMB0-00950-00255506-00255682 oh I I know what your objective is I +C52mUHWvMB0-00951-00255683-00255817 know I know where to find that in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00952-00255819-00256126 system so if your objective is a Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-00953-00256127-00256536 state control design parameter +C52mUHWvMB0-00954-00256537-00256823 or time you can use one of those here +C52mUHWvMB0-00955-00256825-00256959 and it will just automatically know and +C52mUHWvMB0-00956-00256960-00257106 find it so we do do a little bit of +C52mUHWvMB0-00957-00257107-00257394 magic on on top of an open em Dao to +C52mUHWvMB0-00958-00257394-00257763 help you out the next thing I'm going to +C52mUHWvMB0-00959-00257764-00258113 do is set up a driver my preference +C52mUHWvMB0-00960-00258114-00258306 especially with a lot of these problems +C52mUHWvMB0-00961-00258307-00258552 SL sqp can handle basic optimal control +C52mUHWvMB0-00962-00258553-00258903 problems but it breaks as they get more +C52mUHWvMB0-00963-00258904-00259062 and more complex and it doesn't take a +C52mUHWvMB0-00964-00259063-00259212 whole lot of complexity to start to +C52mUHWvMB0-00965-00259213-00259809 break SLS QP so I use Essen ops I think +C52mUHWvMB0-00966-00259810-00259998 we're also working on getting IP up to +C52mUHWvMB0-00967-00259998-00260196 work I haven't used it much I've used it +C52mUHWvMB0-00968-00260196-00260342 on one project in the past I have not +C52mUHWvMB0-00969-00260344-00260631 used it through PI ops virus driver but +C52mUHWvMB0-00970-00260632-00260766 I would love for us to be able to do +C52mUHWvMB0-00971-00260767-00260931 that just because it's essentially a +C52mUHWvMB0-00972-00260932-00261228 free optimizer with capabilities akin to +C52mUHWvMB0-00973-00261229-00261315 those of us in ops +C52mUHWvMB0-00974-00261316-00261876 namely that it understands sparsity I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-00975-00261877-00262071 adding a recorder and this recorder is +C52mUHWvMB0-00976-00262071-00262335 going to record my solution to the +C52mUHWvMB0-00977-00262336-00262638 sequel file I'm also going to include +C52mUHWvMB0-00978-00262639-00262908 this thing time series I'm going to talk +C52mUHWvMB0-00979-00262909-00263150 about time series in a little bit but +C52mUHWvMB0-00980-00263151-00263370 because of the different transcription +C52mUHWvMB0-00981-00263371-00263571 methods if I compute if I have some +C52mUHWvMB0-00982-00263572-00263757 output of my OTE that I'm interested in +C52mUHWvMB0-00983-00263758-00264126 like sub range if I'm in a Gauss lobato +C52mUHWvMB0-00984-00264127-00264438 technique I have two copies in that +C52mUHWvMB0-00985-00264439-00264669 phase of my OTE I have the OD e that's +C52mUHWvMB0-00986-00264670-00264810 computing the values of my state +C52mUHWvMB0-00987-00264811-00265017 discretization nodes and I have the OD e +C52mUHWvMB0-00988-00265018-00265206 that's computing values at my colocation +C52mUHWvMB0-00989-00265207-00265419 nodes if I want to know what all the +C52mUHWvMB0-00990-00265420-00265722 values of sub-range are I essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-00991-00265723-00265908 have them in two separate places they +C52mUHWvMB0-00992-00265909-00266118 need to be interleaved because you know +C52mUHWvMB0-00993-00266119-00266415 but the ordering that those nodes in the +C52mUHWvMB0-00994-00266416-00266547 case of third order polynomials +C52mUHWvMB0-00995-00266548-00266832 alternate that's not very convenient in +C52mUHWvMB0-00996-00266833-00267051 the redial method there's a single ho de +C52mUHWvMB0-00997-00267052-00267249 I can get those things everywhere but +C52mUHWvMB0-00998-00267250-00267690 rather than rather than have the user in +C52mUHWvMB0-00999-00267691-00267915 their post processing code say oh I know +C52mUHWvMB0-01000-00267916-00268053 where the path is to this so I want to +C52mUHWvMB0-01001-00268054-00268194 change in transcription now I have to +C52mUHWvMB0-01002-00268195-00268425 change paths this time series object +C52mUHWvMB0-01003-00268426-00268773 gathers in seek in time sequence all the +C52mUHWvMB0-01004-00268774-00269043 values of whatever variables you're +C52mUHWvMB0-01005-00269044-00269430 interested in and reports those back to +C52mUHWvMB0-01006-00269431-00269586 you so those are a really good thing to +C52mUHWvMB0-01007-00269587-00269780 record in your +C52mUHWvMB0-01008-00269781-00270152 in your case recorder and then we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01009-00270153-00270312 also going to record anything that's an +C52mUHWvMB0-01010-00270313-00270482 objective a constraint or design +C52mUHWvMB0-01011-00270483-00270899 variable I set up the problem after I +C52mUHWvMB0-01012-00270900-00271097 set up the problem I can specify initial +C52mUHWvMB0-01013-00271098-00271496 values so T initial is the name of our +C52mUHWvMB0-01014-00271497-00271767 initial value in time so remember I have +C52mUHWvMB0-01015-00271768-00271949 a certain number of nodes they are +C52mUHWvMB0-01016-00271950-00272075 essentially fixed in non-dimensional +C52mUHWvMB0-01017-00272076-00272360 time I'm saying that initial time is +C52mUHWvMB0-01018-00272361-00272597 zero I'm guessing that my initial the +C52mUHWvMB0-01019-00272598-00272918 duration of this phase is 1 and then as +C52mUHWvMB0-01020-00272919-00273185 diamonds solving since the duration of +C52mUHWvMB0-01021-00273186-00273353 the phase is not constrained it's going +C52mUHWvMB0-01022-00273354-00273548 to stretch those out the location of all +C52mUHWvMB0-01023-00273549-00273813 the nodes inside there are going to move +C52mUHWvMB0-01024-00273814-00274049 essentially an affine transform and +C52mUHWvMB0-01025-00274050-00274368 figure out you know as I figure out what +C52mUHWvMB0-01026-00274369-00274610 the correct final duration of the phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01027-00274611-00275243 should be then I set values of my States +C52mUHWvMB0-01028-00275244-00275432 when I'm setting values of my States +C52mUHWvMB0-01029-00275433-00275618 this is an implicit method I have to +C52mUHWvMB0-01030-00275619-00275981 specify every value of the state at +C52mUHWvMB0-01031-00275982-00276293 every node it's hard to know especially +C52mUHWvMB0-01032-00276294-00276680 if you're switching transcriptions where +C52mUHWvMB0-01033-00276681-00276953 in time your nodes follow or where they +C52mUHWvMB0-01034-00276954-00277193 fall so we have this phase interpolate +C52mUHWvMB0-01035-00277194-00277505 method that by default we'll do a linear +C52mUHWvMB0-01036-00277506-00277751 interpolation so by default I'm saying +C52mUHWvMB0-01037-00277752-00277802 ok +C52mUHWvMB0-01038-00277803-00278091 my initial y-value is 0 my final y-value +C52mUHWvMB0-01039-00278092-00278357 is 0 I want you to interpolate at the +C52mUHWvMB0-01040-00278358-00278852 state input nodes remember which +C52mUHWvMB0-01041-00278853-00279083 essentially state input nodes are a +C52mUHWvMB0-01042-00279084-00279299 subset of the state descritization nodes +C52mUHWvMB0-01043-00279300-00279428 and that's a detail I'm not going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01044-00279429-00279647 bore you with right now but I'm only +C52mUHWvMB0-01045-00279648-00279851 going to interpolate at those specific +C52mUHWvMB0-01046-00279852-00280175 nodes and this interpolate function will +C52mUHWvMB0-01047-00280176-00280331 figure out what they need to be for me +C52mUHWvMB0-01048-00280332-00280553 since it's essentially just a constant I +C52mUHWvMB0-01049-00280554-00280679 could have easily just said you know +C52mUHWvMB0-01050-00280680-00280853 value equals 0 and done the same thing +C52mUHWvMB0-01051-00280854-00281048 here but I'm trying to let you +C52mUHWvMB0-01052-00281049-00281231 understand what the difference is on X +C52mUHWvMB0-01053-00281232-00281521 it's a little different I am moving +C52mUHWvMB0-01054-00281522-00281768 essentially from a position of negative +C52mUHWvMB0-01055-00281769-00282296 1 0 to 1 0 is is my optimization problem +C52mUHWvMB0-01056-00282297-00282449 here because remember I'm fixing these +C52mUHWvMB0-01057-00282450-00282762 initial values and final values so now X +C52mUHWvMB0-01058-00282763-00282995 is going to be interpolated from +C52mUHWvMB0-01059-00282996-00283027 negative +C52mUHWvMB0-01060-00283028-00283282 one-to-one at whatever wherever the +C52mUHWvMB0-01061-00283283-00283915 nodes fall in in my non-dimensional time +C52mUHWvMB0-01062-00283916-00283978 space +C52mUHWvMB0-01063-00283979-00284390 I do the same thing for fee so we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01064-00284391-00284578 going to interpolate I'm going to say +C52mUHWvMB0-01065-00284579-00284929 that this is from 90 to 90 and I'm going +C52mUHWvMB0-01066-00284930-00285223 to override the units and say regardless +C52mUHWvMB0-01067-00285224-00285421 of how I defined it as radians earlier +C52mUHWvMB0-01068-00285422-00285649 you should optimize it as if it's in +C52mUHWvMB0-01069-00285650-00285796 radians but when I give you the inputs +C52mUHWvMB0-01070-00285797-00285949 I'm going to specify things in degrees +C52mUHWvMB0-01071-00285950-00286163 it'll do the conversion for you it will +C52mUHWvMB0-01072-00286164-00286315 give things back out at the control +C52mUHWvMB0-01073-00286316-00286618 input nodes and assign those control +C52mUHWvMB0-01074-00286619-00287063 values and then lastly design parameter +C52mUHWvMB0-01075-00287064-00287209 since the design parameter is just a +C52mUHWvMB0-01076-00287210-00287428 scalar I can just give that and say okay +C52mUHWvMB0-01077-00287429-00287545 I'm going to guess that I need a +C52mUHWvMB0-01078-00287546-00287714 velocity of two I don't know if that's +C52mUHWvMB0-01079-00287715-00288832 the case if we run this problem sit here +C52mUHWvMB0-01080-00288833-00288973 and this is about the time to start +C52mUHWvMB0-01081-00288974-00289558 cursing what's wrong you say I don't +C52mUHWvMB0-01082-00289559-00289849 know what happened but that's why we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01083-00289850-00289885 here +C52mUHWvMB0-01084-00289886-00290296 so here's a tie-ups parse automatically +C52mUHWvMB0-01085-00290297-00290848 outputs all of my constraints here all +C52mUHWvMB0-01086-00290849-00291212 my constraints including state defects +C52mUHWvMB0-01087-00291213-00291466 defects and continuity defects in +C52mUHWvMB0-01088-00291467-00291667 collocation I didn't mention but when +C52mUHWvMB0-01089-00291668-00291826 you have two adjacent polynomials +C52mUHWvMB0-01090-00291827-00292141 there's an option as to whether do I +C52mUHWvMB0-01091-00292142-00292357 include that intermediate point where +C52mUHWvMB0-01092-00292358-00292507 they connect is that a single design +C52mUHWvMB0-01093-00292508-00292801 value or design variable or do I let +C52mUHWvMB0-01094-00292802-00292942 them be separate and have two separate +C52mUHWvMB0-01095-00292943-00293063 design variables there and then +C52mUHWvMB0-01096-00293064-00293339 constrain them through constraint to +C52mUHWvMB0-01097-00293340-00293602 have two equal one another here I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01098-00293603-00293809 saying they're separated so one of the +C52mUHWvMB0-01099-00293810-00294120 constraints that Deimos is satisfying is +C52mUHWvMB0-01100-00294121-00294409 forcing that continuity to be driven to +C52mUHWvMB0-01101-00294410-00294889 zero if we scroll up and look at what +C52mUHWvMB0-01102-00294890-00295112 S&OP did it said hey I had numerical +C52mUHWvMB0-01103-00295113-00295621 difficulties so as for what's going +C52mUHWvMB0-01104-00295622-00295924 wrong here does anyone have an idea of +C52mUHWvMB0-01105-00295925-00296125 there's actually two things wrong but +C52mUHWvMB0-01106-00296126-00296281 it's does anyone have an idea of what we +C52mUHWvMB0-01107-00296282-00296395 could pinch to potentially be doing +C52mUHWvMB0-01108-00296396-00296420 around +C52mUHWvMB0-01109-00296421-00296792 here all right so what's going on is our +C52mUHWvMB0-01110-00296793-00297140 initial guess the sub started at the +C52mUHWvMB0-01111-00297141-00297323 origin we started at negative one zero +C52mUHWvMB0-01112-00297324-00297689 and we are going to one zero we're going +C52mUHWvMB0-01113-00297690-00297965 right over the origin our radius +C52mUHWvMB0-01114-00297966-00298282 function is a square root and if you +C52mUHWvMB0-01115-00298283-00298520 look at that square root function like +C52mUHWvMB0-01116-00298521-00298850 in 3d plane it's a cone it looks like an +C52mUHWvMB0-01117-00298851-00299087 absolute value so the first thing that +C52mUHWvMB0-01118-00299088-00299318 we can probably change is to say hey +C52mUHWvMB0-01119-00299319-00300214 let's not pose this Submariner ange as +C52mUHWvMB0-01120-00300215-00300677 the square root as our ship - time inset +C52mUHWvMB0-01121-00300678-00300991 instead what we're going to do is +C52mUHWvMB0-01122-00300992-00301205 compute sub-range with it this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01123-00301206-00301463 technically going to be no longer +C52mUHWvMB0-01124-00301464-00301595 actually our range but we're going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01125-00301596-00301769 say that the radius of the ship squared +C52mUHWvMB0-01126-00301770-00302048 minus the x squared that has to be equal +C52mUHWvMB0-01127-00302049-00302276 to zero now instead of having a square +C52mUHWvMB0-01128-00302277-00302426 root function essentially absolute value +C52mUHWvMB0-01129-00302427-00302612 like behavior at the origin we have a +C52mUHWvMB0-01130-00302613-00303131 paraboloid at the origin so R and if we +C52mUHWvMB0-01131-00303132-00303344 say all over the origin our derivatives +C52mUHWvMB0-01132-00303345-00304710 don't blow up so if we run that +C52mUHWvMB0-01133-00304711-00305729 sorry just a second here +C52mUHWvMB0-01134-00305730-00306365 ah just a minute +C52mUHWvMB0-01135-00306366-00306954 that's I didn't include basically what I +C52mUHWvMB0-01136-00306955-00308547 want to do is copy this +C52mUHWvMB0-01137-00308548-00309788 and technically when I did that I +C52mUHWvMB0-01138-00309789-00310091 so this I didn't want to fix both errors +C52mUHWvMB0-01139-00310092-00310292 at once so this is the first air that we +C52mUHWvMB0-01140-00310293-00310598 come across I'm sailing straight over +C52mUHWvMB0-01141-00310599-00310832 and Deimos is telling me I think this +C52mUHWvMB0-01142-00310833-00311159 problem isn't fusible and this can be +C52mUHWvMB0-01143-00311160-00311348 frustrating to see in this case it's a +C52mUHWvMB0-01144-00311349-00311732 really kind of tricky situation we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01145-00311733-00311951 flying we're sailing directly over this +C52mUHWvMB0-01146-00311952-00312239 origin and in order to make this easier +C52mUHWvMB0-01147-00312240-00312578 to explain I'm going to let you guys see +C52mUHWvMB0-01148-00312579-00313154 the answer ahead of time but this is the +C52mUHWvMB0-01149-00313155-00313439 sort of behavior of the answer that we +C52mUHWvMB0-01150-00313440-00313715 should expect we sail until we were +C52mUHWvMB0-01151-00313716-00313895 essentially tangent with the subs +C52mUHWvMB0-01152-00313896-00314060 Possible's this position and then we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01153-00314061-00314291 riding that radius so that we're writing +C52mUHWvMB0-01154-00314292-00314471 that path constraint until we get back +C52mUHWvMB0-01155-00314472-00314876 to port my initial guess takes us right +C52mUHWvMB0-01156-00314877-00315095 over the origin and although we fixed +C52mUHWvMB0-01157-00315096-00315278 the behavior of the constraint at that +C52mUHWvMB0-01158-00315279-00315635 origin now S&OP is confused because it +C52mUHWvMB0-01159-00315636-00315791 doesn't know which way to go if I turn +C52mUHWvMB0-01160-00315792-00315989 left and start essentially a southerly +C52mUHWvMB0-01161-00315990-00316199 track that gets me around it but if I +C52mUHWvMB0-01162-00316200-00316349 turn right that also satisfies the +C52mUHWvMB0-01163-00316350-00316658 constraint in the same possible way so +C52mUHWvMB0-01164-00316659-00316799 S&OP doesn't know if we should turn left +C52mUHWvMB0-01165-00316800-00317039 or right or right in three quarters or +C52mUHWvMB0-01166-00317040-00317255 maybe not quite because when your parent +C52mUHWvMB0-01167-00317256-00317648 everything is dr. Seuss rhyme and so so +C52mUHWvMB0-01168-00317649-00317834 we have to we have to provide a better +C52mUHWvMB0-01169-00317835-00318017 initial guess here there are optimal +C52mUHWvMB0-01170-00318018-00318437 control tools out there Dido makes a +C52mUHWvMB0-01171-00318438-00318560 name for itself saying that they don't +C52mUHWvMB0-01172-00318561-00318821 need an initial guess we are not that +C52mUHWvMB0-01173-00318822-00319136 yet so we need to provide a good initial +C52mUHWvMB0-01174-00319137-00319262 guess here at least a somewhat more +C52mUHWvMB0-01175-00319263-00320113 reasonable initial guess so if I +C52mUHWvMB0-01176-00320114-00320762 go back to my training the solution that +C52mUHWvMB0-01177-00320763-00321010 I took was just to say okay I'm going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01178-00321011-00321464 say that my heading angle and I'm Justin +C52mUHWvMB0-01179-00321465-00321575 says I'm solving his problem wrong +C52mUHWvMB0-01180-00321576-00321749 because I decided to solve it +C52mUHWvMB0-01181-00321750-00322115 sailing east but I'm going to say that +C52mUHWvMB0-01182-00322116-00322256 I'm starting with an azimuth of 80 +C52mUHWvMB0-01183-00322257-00322418 degrees and then ending with an azimuth +C52mUHWvMB0-01184-00322419-00322628 of 100 degrees whereas before the years +C52mUHWvMB0-01185-00322629-00322862 were both 90 so now instead of having a +C52mUHWvMB0-01186-00322863-00323035 control profile that suggests I say I'll +C52mUHWvMB0-01187-00323036-00323240 do East now I have a control profile +C52mUHWvMB0-01188-00323241-00323404 that says I want to start by heading +C52mUHWvMB0-01189-00323405-00323612 northeast and then end by heading +C52mUHWvMB0-01190-00323613-00323753 southeast and still get to the same +C52mUHWvMB0-01191-00323754-00324452 place that I wanted to get to yeah so if +C52mUHWvMB0-01192-00324453-00325500 we run this +C52mUHWvMB0-01193-00325501-00326102 now things +C52mUHWvMB0-01194-00326103-00326284 see that and then you get the little +C52mUHWvMB0-01195-00326285-00326682 endorphin rush work right +C52mUHWvMB0-01196-00326683-00327065 dick it's the sun's a little brighter so +C52mUHWvMB0-01197-00327066-00327381 everything worked they're going back to +C52mUHWvMB0-01198-00327382-00327728 where they talked about this problem so +C52mUHWvMB0-01199-00327729-00327880 this is the solution they came up with +C52mUHWvMB0-01200-00327881-00328151 and according to them when they define +C52mUHWvMB0-01201-00328152-00328322 that their answer was two point three +C52mUHWvMB0-01202-00328323-00329408 three +C52mUHWvMB0-01203-00329409-00330601 and our objective value is 2.33 so yeah +C52mUHWvMB0-01204-00330602-00330851 yes it's effectively a manned +C52mUHWvMB0-01205-00330852-00332474 depth-charge but the notion of this and +C52mUHWvMB0-01206-00332475-00332702 and it's a it's a it's a tricky problem +C52mUHWvMB0-01207-00332703-00332923 set up because if once you get into +C52mUHWvMB0-01208-00332924-00333203 vehicle threat analysis and actually try +C52mUHWvMB0-01209-00333204-00333371 now fly your opponent and your so your +C52mUHWvMB0-01210-00333372-00333512 optimally trying to apply your opponent +C52mUHWvMB0-01211-00333513-00333749 your opponent's trying to optimally kill +C52mUHWvMB0-01212-00333750-00334727 you but in our case we don't know what +C52mUHWvMB0-01213-00334728-00335051 the sub is doing at any given point it's +C52mUHWvMB0-01214-00335052-00335213 all you know is that it's submerged at +C52mUHWvMB0-01215-00335214-00335414 the halfway point it's it's halfway down +C52mUHWvMB0-01216-00335415-00335639 through and it could be anywhere so as +C52mUHWvMB0-01217-00335640-00335939 soon as it gets but both so so yep they +C52mUHWvMB0-01218-00335940-00336098 could have gone anywhere so all we know +C52mUHWvMB0-01219-00336099-00336332 is that you know this is where the sub +C52mUHWvMB0-01220-00336333-00336674 submerged let's not be where it possibly +C52mUHWvMB0-01221-00336675-00337001 can be is basically - that's that's the +C52mUHWvMB0-01222-00337002-00337598 TAC taken so that worked alright and it +C52mUHWvMB0-01223-00337599-00337901 was reasonably fast I don't think it was +C52mUHWvMB0-01224-00337902-00338113 fast enough and I think we can do better +C52mUHWvMB0-01225-00338114-00338420 so we're going to next we're going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01226-00338421-00338701 turn on open m to use automatic coloring +C52mUHWvMB0-01227-00338702-00339209 dynamic coloring and we're gonna see if +C52mUHWvMB0-01228-00339210-00339925 we perform any better +C52mUHWvMB0-01229-00339926-00340799 so that's all we need to do here +C52mUHWvMB0-01230-00340800-00341252 and that's still pretty slow if I go and +C52mUHWvMB0-01231-00341253-00341774 look at the coloring solution it really +C52mUHWvMB0-01232-00341775-00342278 didn't buy me much at all so let's take +C52mUHWvMB0-01233-00342279-00344391 a look at what's going on here +C52mUHWvMB0-01234-00344392-00345180 so I do open +C52mUHWvMB0-01235-00345181-00346384 you +C52mUHWvMB0-01236-00346385-00347277 coloring +C52mUHWvMB0-01237-00347278-00348239 - - you +C52mUHWvMB0-01238-00348240-00348530 so I have parts of my equations that are +C52mUHWvMB0-01239-00348531-00348788 sparse but then I have this giant dense +C52mUHWvMB0-01240-00348789-00349139 chunk right here that is coming from the +C52mUHWvMB0-01241-00349140-00349346 exact cop that computes my path +C52mUHWvMB0-01242-00349347-00349790 constraint how do I know that well +C52mUHWvMB0-01243-00349791-00350015 I know it because when PI ops parks +C52mUHWvMB0-01244-00350016-00350216 outputted all my constraints to me the +C52mUHWvMB0-01245-00350217-00350399 path constraints were the last +C52mUHWvMB0-01246-00350400-00350543 constraint so since it's the bottom of +C52mUHWvMB0-01247-00350544-00350681 my Jacobian that's exhibiting the +C52mUHWvMB0-01248-00350682-00350941 density I know that's the problem +C52mUHWvMB0-01249-00350942-00351452 fortunately exec comps now allow us they +C52mUHWvMB0-01250-00351453-00351797 do see s partials that's the way exec +C52mUHWvMB0-01251-00351798-00352040 comps work they do complex step they +C52mUHWvMB0-01252-00352041-00352745 also support they also support sparsity +C52mUHWvMB0-01253-00352746-00353654 and to to take advantage of that +C52mUHWvMB0-01254-00353655-00354249 sparsity +C52mUHWvMB0-01255-00354250-00354687 I need to add another option to my exec +C52mUHWvMB0-01256-00354688-00355083 comp and that component is has dag +C52mUHWvMB0-01257-00355084-00356118 partials equals true +C52mUHWvMB0-01258-00356119-00356472 and also to make Justin happy one of the +C52mUHWvMB0-01259-00356473-00356951 things I did here was that I declared +C52mUHWvMB0-01260-00356952-00357141 what I originally wrote this ship +C52mUHWvMB0-01261-00357142-00357321 component I'm just in such a habit of +C52mUHWvMB0-01262-00357322-00357573 doing my own analytic partials I did my +C52mUHWvMB0-01263-00357574-00357785 partials myself Justin said hey let's +C52mUHWvMB0-01264-00357786-00357996 show off like declare coloring for +C52mUHWvMB0-01265-00357997-00358256 partials so sure let's do that so I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01266-00358257-00358382 going to do that and then show the +C52mUHWvMB0-01267-00358383-00359088 sparsity pattern when I run this so well +C52mUHWvMB0-01268-00359089-00359301 he gets that running I just want to give +C52mUHWvMB0-01269-00359302-00359445 a slightly more detailed explanation on +C52mUHWvMB0-01270-00359446-00359660 what he did with the exact comp so that +C52mUHWvMB0-01271-00359661-00359829 exact comp is literally just evaluating +C52mUHWvMB0-01272-00359830-00360035 that expression and it's dense because +C52mUHWvMB0-01273-00360036-00360237 you didn't tell it doesn't know anything +C52mUHWvMB0-01274-00360238-00360423 about the Jacobian it's not using +C52mUHWvMB0-01275-00360424-00360597 coloring or anything it's just it's kind +C52mUHWvMB0-01276-00360598-00360833 of she's not evilly assuming that every +C52mUHWvMB0-01277-00360834-00361065 output depends on every input but if +C52mUHWvMB0-01278-00361066-00361205 you've written if you know that you've +C52mUHWvMB0-01279-00361206-00361401 written a vectorized exec comp in other +C52mUHWvMB0-01280-00361402-00361575 words like you know it's a vector and a +C52mUHWvMB0-01281-00361576-00361722 vector out and each entry and that +C52mUHWvMB0-01282-00361723-00361944 vector only affects the equivalent +C52mUHWvMB0-01283-00361945-00362205 output then the Jacobian is diagonal +C52mUHWvMB0-01284-00362206-00362418 right and so if the Jacobian is diagonal +C52mUHWvMB0-01285-00362419-00362630 then that's what has diag partials means +C52mUHWvMB0-01286-00362631-00362799 so it can't support like arbitrary +C52mUHWvMB0-01287-00362800-00362984 sparsity if you have some weird numpy +C52mUHWvMB0-01288-00362985-00363185 methods that are creating relationships +C52mUHWvMB0-01289-00363186-00363594 between different injuries huh yeah the +C52mUHWvMB0-01290-00363595-00363958 subject OB and sundry are diagonal right +C52mUHWvMB0-01291-00363959-00364454 sorry the sub hit us the depth charge +C52mUHWvMB0-01292-00364455-00364668 does sound like an Atari game doesn't +C52mUHWvMB0-01293-00364669-00365040 yeah so that for exec comes specifically +C52mUHWvMB0-01294-00365041-00365214 when you have diagonal sub jacobians +C52mUHWvMB0-01295-00365215-00365397 when all of your subject Kobe ins are +C52mUHWvMB0-01296-00365398-00366943 diagonally you can use that option +C52mUHWvMB0-01297-00366944-00367396 see here +C52mUHWvMB0-01298-00367397-00367642 this was six seconds before we're down +C52mUHWvMB0-01299-00367643-00367999 to three this is the coloring as it sees +C52mUHWvMB0-01300-00368000-00368782 it Adil why isn't this do you know why +C52mUHWvMB0-01301-00368783-00369013 that's not a single diagonal for that +C52mUHWvMB0-01302-00369014-00369385 component where is that I was at showing +C52mUHWvMB0-01303-00369386-00371488 the tooth the two variables okay one of +C52mUHWvMB0-01304-00371489-00371623 my path constraints of matrix vector +C52mUHWvMB0-01305-00371624-00371866 products and then it's then it's not +C52mUHWvMB0-01306-00371867-00372082 quite a diagonal right so it depends on +C52mUHWvMB0-01307-00372083-00372199 the shape of a variable to your path +C52mUHWvMB0-01308-00372200-00372385 constraining I could in theory path +C52mUHWvMB0-01309-00372386-00374740 constraints we're using the tools that +C52mUHWvMB0-01310-00374741-00375103 do a chorus yeah like Otis work that way +C52mUHWvMB0-01311-00375104-00375244 Otis was finite difference but it +C52mUHWvMB0-01312-00375245-00375574 assumed it didn't know your dynamics it +C52mUHWvMB0-01313-00375575-00375751 didn't know your partials so it just had +C52mUHWvMB0-01314-00375752-00375904 to assume okay I'm just going to naively +C52mUHWvMB0-01315-00375905-00376072 assume that any constraint in this first +C52mUHWvMB0-01316-00376073-00376270 segment it's potentially impacted by the +C52mUHWvMB0-01317-00376271-00376387 design variables in the first segment +C52mUHWvMB0-01318-00376388-00376504 then you get this block diagonal +C52mUHWvMB0-01319-00376505-00376732 structure and then times and design +C52mUHWvMB0-01320-00376733-00377242 parameters are dense columns here we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01321-00377243-00377439 just leveraging the open MDO +C52mUHWvMB0-01322-00377440-00377680 capability so if you define that +C52mUHWvMB0-01323-00377681-00377914 component to have sparse partials it'll +C52mUHWvMB0-01324-00377915-00378124 be really fast if you don't it's on you +C52mUHWvMB0-01325-00378125-00378622 I hadn't thought about automating I +C52mUHWvMB0-01326-00378623-00378837 don't see I don't know if I can general +C52mUHWvMB0-01327-00378838-00379087 specifically about has dag partials on +C52mUHWvMB0-01328-00379088-00379514 the exact com +C52mUHWvMB0-01329-00379515-00380654 I know yeah oh yeah so that's so so +C52mUHWvMB0-01330-00380655-00380837 that's true for pure optimal control +C52mUHWvMB0-01331-00380838-00381020 problems however Deimos was designed +C52mUHWvMB0-01332-00381021-00381230 specifically to do mix mixtures of +C52mUHWvMB0-01333-00381231-00381437 optimal control and so we do not assume +C52mUHWvMB0-01334-00381438-00381593 we intentionally don't assume anything +C52mUHWvMB0-01335-00381594-00381845 about the Jacobian structure because +C52mUHWvMB0-01336-00381846-00382061 when you add something before or after +C52mUHWvMB0-01337-00382062-00382273 Deimos you'll break those assumptions +C52mUHWvMB0-01338-00382274-00382559 yeah so instead we rely on the +C52mUHWvMB0-01339-00382560-00382733 generalized coloring to finding the +C52mUHWvMB0-01340-00382734-00383543 sparsity pattern the next thing I want +C52mUHWvMB0-01341-00383544-00384074 to do is we have we have output and we +C52mUHWvMB0-01342-00384075-00384467 don't know if it's accurate or not one +C52mUHWvMB0-01343-00384468-00384758 of the ways and again running back to +C52mUHWvMB0-01344-00384759-00385019 otis this is the otis way of initially +C52mUHWvMB0-01345-00385020-00385157 knowing whether or not your solutions +C52mUHWvMB0-01346-00385158-00385427 accurate is just to take your ho de you +C52mUHWvMB0-01347-00385428-00385640 throw it into psy peyote ian's or +C52mUHWvMB0-01348-00385641-00385775 whatever your preferred integrator is +C52mUHWvMB0-01349-00385776-00386033 take your control profile history you +C52mUHWvMB0-01350-00386034-00386180 interpolate that at any given point in +C52mUHWvMB0-01351-00386181-00386378 time as you step through and you say if +C52mUHWvMB0-01352-00386379-00386573 I explicitly do that integration how +C52mUHWvMB0-01353-00386574-00386809 does that compare to the polynomial fit +C52mUHWvMB0-01354-00386810-00387347 we support that through simulation and +C52mUHWvMB0-01355-00387348-00387653 we have methods a method called simulate +C52mUHWvMB0-01356-00387654-00387842 that exists on both the phase and on the +C52mUHWvMB0-01357-00387843-00388019 entire trajectory so if you just want to +C52mUHWvMB0-01358-00388020-00388301 run simulate on a single phase it will +C52mUHWvMB0-01359-00388302-00388526 take the OD e out of that phase it'll +C52mUHWvMB0-01360-00388527-00388787 essentially wrap it so that psy peyote E +C52mUHWvMB0-01361-00388788-00389042 and were now Sipho hots I pi to solve +C52mUHWvMB0-01362-00389043-00389603 IVP can can access it it will execute it +C52mUHWvMB0-01363-00389604-00389840 as many times to solve IP IVP needs and +C52mUHWvMB0-01364-00389841-00390032 propagate out your solution and then +C52mUHWvMB0-01365-00390033-00390188 we're going to have that saved in this +C52mUHWvMB0-01366-00390189-00390554 Donner sub simulation sequel sequel +C52mUHWvMB0-01367-00390555-00390896 database what's actually happening in +C52mUHWvMB0-01368-00390897-00391118 here is a little bit kludgy but we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01369-00391119-00391427 making a new problem that that contains +C52mUHWvMB0-01370-00391428-00391610 a trajectory with any phase you want to +C52mUHWvMB0-01371-00391611-00391754 simulate and then that phases +C52mUHWvMB0-01372-00391755-00391901 transcription is what we call the solve +C52mUHWvMB0-01373-00391902-00392273 IPP transcription that solve IPP +C52mUHWvMB0-01374-00392274-00392516 transcription is what's calling scifi OD +C52mUHWvMB0-01375-00392517-00392843 e int or salts i pi solve IPP for every +C52mUHWvMB0-01376-00392844-00392921 segment +C52mUHWvMB0-01377-00392922-00393095 the problem so I feel a lot of segments +C52mUHWvMB0-01378-00393096-00393263 that can take a little bit of time we +C52mUHWvMB0-01379-00393264-00393530 also don't do any gradients with it so +C52mUHWvMB0-01380-00393531-00393746 you we have that in there so that we +C52mUHWvMB0-01381-00393747-00393896 have this uniform interface and we can +C52mUHWvMB0-01382-00393897-00394079 do things like recording without having +C52mUHWvMB0-01383-00394080-00394277 to invent our own but you cannot do +C52mUHWvMB0-01384-00394278-00394523 optimization with that mode of the soft +C52mUHWvMB0-01385-00394524-00395798 IVP problem so if I run this +C52mUHWvMB0-01386-00395799-00395968 and I just also want to point out that +C52mUHWvMB0-01387-00395969-00396254 this one is back to using the analytic +C52mUHWvMB0-01388-00396255-00396920 derivatives on my on my EO n comp and +C52mUHWvMB0-01389-00396921-00397118 now instead of being a three seconds and +C52mUHWvMB0-01390-00397119-00397282 getting a 50% speed up I went down from +C52mUHWvMB0-01391-00397283-00397430 six seconds originally and down to one +C52mUHWvMB0-01392-00397431-00397730 second so I still like doing analytic +C52mUHWvMB0-01393-00397731-00399057 timers so so that performs the explicit +C52mUHWvMB0-01394-00399058-00399500 simulation now I want to plot the +C52mUHWvMB0-01395-00399501-00399788 results depending on what results I want +C52mUHWvMB0-01396-00399789-00400016 to plot I might need to add more outputs +C52mUHWvMB0-01397-00400017-00400307 by default that time series output that +C52mUHWvMB0-01398-00400308-00400490 I talked about will automatically +C52mUHWvMB0-01399-00400491-00400739 include our time all of our state +C52mUHWvMB0-01400-00400740-00400904 variables our control variables our +C52mUHWvMB0-01401-00400905-00401201 design parameters but in this case I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01402-00401202-00401540 also interested in like sub range or our +C52mUHWvMB0-01403-00401541-00401584 ship +C52mUHWvMB0-01404-00401585-00402056 and so I need to add those explicitly as +C52mUHWvMB0-01405-00402057-00402334 time series outputs my OD e system could +C52mUHWvMB0-01406-00402335-00402539 be arbitrarily huge and I don't +C52mUHWvMB0-01407-00402540-00402728 necessarily want to include every output +C52mUHWvMB0-01408-00402729-00403070 that it's computing in my logging so +C52mUHWvMB0-01409-00403071-00403322 this time series output object that +C52mUHWvMB0-01410-00403323-00403589 essentially is aggregating my time +C52mUHWvMB0-01411-00403590-00403841 series variables I have to explicitly +C52mUHWvMB0-01412-00403842-00404182 give those variables to it at the moment +C52mUHWvMB0-01413-00404183-00404357 we have to also explicitly give those +C52mUHWvMB0-01414-00404358-00404588 the shape of those variables to it where +C52mUHWvMB0-01415-00404589-00404864 it assumes that this is the shape at +C52mUHWvMB0-01416-00404865-00405023 each given point in time so these +C52mUHWvMB0-01417-00405024-00405251 variables were defined in those files as +C52mUHWvMB0-01418-00405252-00405409 number of nodes because their number of +C52mUHWvMB0-01419-00405410-00405708 nodes by one their scalars in time I +C52mUHWvMB0-01420-00405709-00405985 think now that we have some new features +C52mUHWvMB0-01421-00405986-00406154 in open M Dao I can get around this +C52mUHWvMB0-01422-00406155-00406307 because this is the connectivity issue +C52mUHWvMB0-01423-00406308-00406454 where now we're allowed to specify +C52mUHWvMB0-01424-00406455-00406667 connections and then configure method +C52mUHWvMB0-01425-00406668-00406960 anyway I'm going to add these time +C52mUHWvMB0-01426-00406961-00407471 series outputs and because because I +C52mUHWvMB0-01427-00407472-00407663 included anything with the name time +C52mUHWvMB0-01428-00407664-00407884 series in its path am i recording I will +C52mUHWvMB0-01429-00407885-00408160 record those and then I'm also going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01430-00408161-00408491 run my simulation and capture the +C52mUHWvMB0-01431-00408492-00409159 simulation like that +C52mUHWvMB0-01432-00409160-00409701 so now I have this too sequel files one +C52mUHWvMB0-01433-00409702-00409949 is Donner sub solution the other is +C52mUHWvMB0-01434-00409950-00410147 Tommy Steiner so simulation +C52mUHWvMB0-01435-00410148-00410457 I'd like to plot those you pull out your +C52mUHWvMB0-01436-00410458-00410649 favorite plotting language I like I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01437-00410650-00411057 still stuck on that plot leg and it +C52mUHWvMB0-01438-00411058-00411501 works for me so we instantiate case +C52mUHWvMB0-01439-00411502-00411942 readers to get the final case from the +C52mUHWvMB0-01440-00411943-00412172 solution file and the final pace from +C52mUHWvMB0-01441-00412173-00412332 the simulation file the simulation file +C52mUHWvMB0-01442-00412333-00412497 is only going to have one case in it +C52mUHWvMB0-01443-00412497-00412713 only did essentially we did a run model +C52mUHWvMB0-01444-00412714-00412974 to get the the simulation out but the +C52mUHWvMB0-01445-00412975-00413174 solution case has every iteration along +C52mUHWvMB0-01446-00413175-00413480 the way including the miners in order to +C52mUHWvMB0-01447-00413481-00413735 get the final one I just asked for a +C52mUHWvMB0-01448-00413737-00414164 case negative one among the things that +C52mUHWvMB0-01449-00414166-00414363 I want to show are the speed that we +C52mUHWvMB0-01450-00414364-00414689 found and then I start pulling out +C52mUHWvMB0-01451-00414691-00415076 variable values so my solution values +C52mUHWvMB0-01452-00415077-00415305 for time latitude longitude I should +C52mUHWvMB0-01453-00415306-00415449 have called these next I apology necks +C52mUHWvMB0-01454-00415450-00415745 and why my solution values come from +C52mUHWvMB0-01455-00415746-00416032 their paths and the problem which are +C52mUHWvMB0-01456-00416033-00416349 trajan aim of my trajectory path phaser +C52mUHWvMB0-01457-00416350-00416505 was the name of my face and then time +C52mUHWvMB0-01458-00416506-00416838 series time series that states : state +C52mUHWvMB0-01459-00416839-00417110 name or time series that time for the +C52mUHWvMB0-01460-00417112-00417366 time variable or because we added a +C52mUHWvMB0-01461-00417367-00417557 variable whose final part of its path +C52mUHWvMB0-01462-00417558-00417824 was sub range time series that sub image +C52mUHWvMB0-01463-00417825-00418118 together range this up then I do that I +C52mUHWvMB0-01464-00418120-00418349 do the same inquiries into the database +C52mUHWvMB0-01465-00418350-00418718 for the simulation outputs and then I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01466-00418720-00418928 going to set up a few plots and show +C52mUHWvMB0-01467-00418929-00419942 them +C52mUHWvMB0-01468-00419943-00420206 so if you remember on the website the +C52mUHWvMB0-01469-00420207-00420347 sub was going or their ship was +C52mUHWvMB0-01470-00420348-00420614 traveling west or east to west I'm going +C52mUHWvMB0-01471-00420615-00420767 to be based on the west coast and go +C52mUHWvMB0-01472-00420768-00420989 east to west so this is my straight-line +C52mUHWvMB0-01473-00420990-00421289 path and then at this point I start to +C52mUHWvMB0-01474-00421290-00421514 encounter the sub and I have to actively +C52mUHWvMB0-01475-00421515-00421706 ride this path constraint so the range +C52mUHWvMB0-01476-00421707-00421898 to the sub never goes negative although +C52mUHWvMB0-01477-00421899-00422591 it gets really close in fact if we zoom +C52mUHWvMB0-01478-00422592-00423548 in on this because on underlying these +C52mUHWvMB0-01479-00423549-00423914 dynamics things are polynomials you know +C52mUHWvMB0-01480-00423914-00424235 my discrete points say hey cool I'm not +C52mUHWvMB0-01481-00424236-00424397 violating my sub range when I go to +C52mUHWvMB0-01482-00424398-00424625 explicitly simulate out and explicitly +C52mUHWvMB0-01483-00424626-00424779 take that control profile history and +C52mUHWvMB0-01484-00424780-00424967 see where it goes I do actually go +C52mUHWvMB0-01485-00424968-00425175 negative here for a brief amount of time +C52mUHWvMB0-01486-00425176-00425441 I'm going to show you in a minute our +C52mUHWvMB0-01487-00425442-00425714 current progress on our grid refinement +C52mUHWvMB0-01488-00425715-00425912 which will essentially figure out where +C52mUHWvMB0-01489-00425913-00426189 errors are as far as the dynamics are +C52mUHWvMB0-01490-00426189-00426350 concerned and it makes things more dense +C52mUHWvMB0-01491-00426351-00426602 that actually fixes this situation for +C52mUHWvMB0-01492-00426603-00426770 us it does not explicitly take into +C52mUHWvMB0-01493-00426771-00426933 account path constraint violations yet +C52mUHWvMB0-01494-00426934-00427050 although I don't think that's a big +C52mUHWvMB0-01495-00427051-00429135 change to implement +C52mUHWvMB0-01496-00429137-00429610 so now gritty refinement is the same +C52mUHWvMB0-01497-00429612-00429835 exact problem that we had before now +C52mUHWvMB0-01498-00429837-00430355 I've added instead of calling problem P +C52mUHWvMB0-01499-00430356-00430595 dot run driver I'm going to call this +C52mUHWvMB0-01500-00430596-00430907 that Deimos run problem method and the +C52mUHWvMB0-01501-00430908-00431122 run problem method among other things +C52mUHWvMB0-01502-00431122-00431354 that we eventually intend for it to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01503-00431355-00431624 able to do is going to be able to run a +C52mUHWvMB0-01504-00431625-00431828 grid refinement for us for now I'm just +C52mUHWvMB0-01505-00431829-00431987 very basically turning that on with +C52mUHWvMB0-01506-00431988-00432233 refined equals true there are some +C52mUHWvMB0-01507-00432234-00432476 settings at the phase level that you can +C52mUHWvMB0-01508-00432477-00432697 use to control how it works right now +C52mUHWvMB0-01509-00432699-00432920 those settings are just a boolean refine +C52mUHWvMB0-01510-00432921-00433099 that says yes this phase wants to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01511-00433100-00433433 potentially refined and then a tolerance +C52mUHWvMB0-01512-00433434-00433631 which is effectively the error in our +C52mUHWvMB0-01513-00433632-00433843 state dynamics that we consider to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01514-00433845-00434159 acceptable under the hood what this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01515-00434160-00434464 going to do is run the problem solve it +C52mUHWvMB0-01516-00434464-00434741 then analyze the error and then after +C52mUHWvMB0-01517-00434742-00434909 analyzing the air it gets a new idea for +C52mUHWvMB0-01518-00434910-00435134 how many how many segments and the +C52mUHWvMB0-01519-00435135-00435302 polynomial order of each of those +C52mUHWvMB0-01520-00435303-00435510 segments in here that we should be using +C52mUHWvMB0-01521-00435512-00435767 so we're starting with 30 I'm gonna +C52mUHWvMB0-01522-00435768-00436022 start with 10 we'll see how it goes from +C52mUHWvMB0-01523-00436022-00436730 there after it determines the new grid +C52mUHWvMB0-01524-00436731-00436943 it applies those values to the new grid +C52mUHWvMB0-01525-00436943-00437147 it calls set up again the set up stack +C52mUHWvMB0-01526-00437147-00437312 goes through and essentially you know +C52mUHWvMB0-01527-00437313-00437518 read éclairs the sizes of our variables +C52mUHWvMB0-01528-00437520-00437783 we then take the previous solution that +C52mUHWvMB0-01529-00437784-00437975 we still have access to interpolate that +C52mUHWvMB0-01530-00437976-00438160 solution on to this new variable set and +C52mUHWvMB0-01531-00438162-00438589 then resolve the problem and this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01532-00438591-00438737 going to terminate either when it +C52mUHWvMB0-01533-00438738-00438910 reaches the maximum allowed number of +C52mUHWvMB0-01534-00438912-00439277 iterations or when it receives the +C52mUHWvMB0-01535-00439278-00441182 desired accuracy so there's 1 2 3 4 +C52mUHWvMB0-01536-00441183-00441351 we look at greater refinement +C52mUHWvMB0-01537-00441352-00441675 thought-out is Kaushik here oh there's +C52mUHWvMB0-01538-00441676-00441930 Kashi Kashi works in my brand she +C52mUHWvMB0-01539-00441931-00442227 implemented this algorithm I'm really a +C52mUHWvMB0-01540-00442228-00442431 fan of it right now and pending some +C52mUHWvMB0-01541-00442432-00442596 very minor cleanups I think everyone's +C52mUHWvMB0-01542-00442597-00442997 gonna like it so this was our original +C52mUHWvMB0-01543-00442998-00443310 grid where the segment ends these were +C52mUHWvMB0-01544-00443310-00443510 equally spaced segments so our segment +C52mUHWvMB0-01545-00443512-00443672 ends fell at these points kind of in +C52mUHWvMB0-01546-00443673-00443843 non-dimensional time throughout the +C52mUHWvMB0-01547-00443845-00444122 phase these are the Associated errors +C52mUHWvMB0-01548-00444123-00444321 since some of those are above 1e +C52mUHWvMB0-01549-00444322-00444813 negative 6 refine those this is a pH +C52mUHWvMB0-01550-00444814-00445146 refinement method and it works by +C52mUHWvMB0-01551-00445147-00445326 increasing it prefers to increase the +C52mUHWvMB0-01552-00445327-00445527 order of the polynomial but if we would +C52mUHWvMB0-01553-00445528-00445722 have specified never use a polynomial of +C52mUHWvMB0-01554-00445722-00445902 order greater than 3 even it would have +C52mUHWvMB0-01555-00445903-00446088 essentially resorted just to increasing +C52mUHWvMB0-01556-00446089-00446439 the number of segments available so this +C52mUHWvMB0-01557-00446439-00446718 is what it works on essentially it's +C52mUHWvMB0-01558-00446718-00446913 making the polynomial where we encounter +C52mUHWvMB0-01559-00446914-00447222 the sub higher-order and then that's not +C52mUHWvMB0-01560-00447222-00447378 accurate enough so it doesn't some more +C52mUHWvMB0-01561-00447379-00447627 and then that's not accurate enough so +C52mUHWvMB0-01562-00447628-00447839 it starts breaking things into adding +C52mUHWvMB0-01563-00447841-00448077 more segments and then adding more order +C52mUHWvMB0-01564-00448078-00448257 to them and at that point essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-01565-00448258-00448467 everything is accurate enough and it's +C52mUHWvMB0-01566-00448468-00449210 happy +C52mUHWvMB0-01567-00449212-00449379 and this is a problem that we have right +C52mUHWvMB0-01568-00449380-00449688 now with our one of the things I need to +C52mUHWvMB0-01569-00449689-00450006 fix but essentially the case reader is +C52mUHWvMB0-01570-00450007-00450314 not correctly reading out the new +C52mUHWvMB0-01571-00450314-00450603 orientation or the new number of notes +C52mUHWvMB0-01572-00450604-00450903 correctly but if I just zoom in here on +C52mUHWvMB0-01573-00450904-00451587 the explicit solution then that wavy +C52mUHWvMB0-01574-00451588-00451718 behavior down here is much less +C52mUHWvMB0-01575-00451719-00451914 pronounced so essentially it removes +C52mUHWvMB0-01576-00451914-00452516 some of the air from our solution for us +C52mUHWvMB0-01577-00452517-00452739 this is one of the ways in which I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01578-00452739-00452972 calling set up over again is some other +C52mUHWvMB0-01579-00452973-00453120 ways which imma be using the open MDO +C52mUHWvMB0-01580-00453121-00453422 api so we're working on fixing that +C52mUHWvMB0-01581-00453423-00454155 right now +C52mUHWvMB0-01582-00454156-00454795 multiple phases so one of the situations +C52mUHWvMB0-01583-00454796-00455010 you might find yourself in is I want to +C52mUHWvMB0-01584-00455011-00455218 know what the maximum northern extent of +C52mUHWvMB0-01585-00455218-00455439 my vehicle of my ship during this +C52mUHWvMB0-01586-00455440-00455701 trajectory was you could apply a path +C52mUHWvMB0-01587-00455702-00456045 constraint and apply like a max function +C52mUHWvMB0-01588-00456046-00456322 to your your Y history and say what was +C52mUHWvMB0-01589-00456322-00456489 the maximum value of y that I achieved +C52mUHWvMB0-01590-00456489-00456724 but that max function is not going to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01591-00456725-00456864 differentiable and if you care about +C52mUHWvMB0-01592-00456865-00457122 gradient based optimization that's not +C52mUHWvMB0-01593-00457123-00457341 acceptable one of the things we can do +C52mUHWvMB0-01594-00457342-00457641 is we can constrain this phase and the +C52mUHWvMB0-01595-00457642-00457879 first phase to essentially end when the +C52mUHWvMB0-01596-00457880-00458068 ship essentially turns and starts headed +C52mUHWvMB0-01597-00458068-00458337 south again back to port there are a +C52mUHWvMB0-01598-00458338-00458622 couple ways to do this the first way +C52mUHWvMB0-01599-00458623-00458776 that actually tried was just to +C52mUHWvMB0-01600-00458777-00459160 implement this boundary constraint but +C52mUHWvMB0-01601-00459160-00459408 in this problem there's really no +C52mUHWvMB0-01602-00459409-00459628 inertia so in order to satisfy that +C52mUHWvMB0-01603-00459629-00459837 boundary constraint all the thing has to +C52mUHWvMB0-01604-00459838-00460095 do is make a very momentarily very +C52mUHWvMB0-01605-00460096-00460555 momentary blip to do East dy DT goes to +C52mUHWvMB0-01606-00460556-00460726 zero and it says hey I satisfied your +C52mUHWvMB0-01607-00460727-00460930 boundary constraint and then in the next +C52mUHWvMB0-01608-00460931-00461029 phase it's like now I'm going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01609-00461030-00461164 continue doing what it's going to anyway +C52mUHWvMB0-01610-00461164-00461383 it has such a minor impact on the +C52mUHWvMB0-01611-00461384-00461547 overall speed that is really not picked +C52mUHWvMB0-01612-00461548-00461685 up by the optimizer to see that +C52mUHWvMB0-01613-00461686-00461851 sensitivity at least with the scaling +C52mUHWvMB0-01614-00461852-00462087 default scaling that I used and so it +C52mUHWvMB0-01615-00462088-00462379 cheated to to find the answer and it +C52mUHWvMB0-01616-00462380-00462570 wasn't the answer that I wanted so I had +C52mUHWvMB0-01617-00462571-00462747 to start thinking what's a better way to +C52mUHWvMB0-01618-00462748-00463201 pose this bond pose a constraint so that +C52mUHWvMB0-01619-00463202-00463383 my first eight phase naturally ends +C52mUHWvMB0-01620-00463384-00463570 where this where the ship turns back to +C52mUHWvMB0-01621-00463571-00464005 coming south for instance using this +C52mUHWvMB0-01622-00464006-00464293 rate variable in launch vehicle analysis +C52mUHWvMB0-01623-00464293-00464470 we're often concerned with what's the +C52mUHWvMB0-01624-00464471-00464626 maximum dynamic pressure that I saw +C52mUHWvMB0-01625-00464627-00464787 throughout the ascent and dynamic +C52mUHWvMB0-01626-00464788-00464953 pressure your vehicle has a lot of +C52mUHWvMB0-01627-00464954-00465178 inertia associated with it and you could +C52mUHWvMB0-01628-00465179-00465400 more easily capture that that that +C52mUHWvMB0-01629-00465401-00465580 condition with a basic constraint like +C52mUHWvMB0-01630-00465581-00465831 this but since it didn't work in this +C52mUHWvMB0-01631-00465832-00466051 case and Dinos an open mvo we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01632-00466052-00466210 essentially trying to cheat in order to +C52mUHWvMB0-01633-00466210-00466477 satisfy what I wanted I said okay I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01634-00466478-00466627 gonna find a different way I left that +C52mUHWvMB0-01635-00466628-00466837 one in place I probably could remove it +C52mUHWvMB0-01636-00466838-00467035 but I also said okay I'm gonna have a +C52mUHWvMB0-01637-00467035-00467395 path constraint that says my first phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01638-00467396-00467745 is never allowed to have dy/dt be +C52mUHWvMB0-01639-00467746-00467922 negative so I essentially always have to +C52mUHWvMB0-01640-00467923-00468222 travel north through this first phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01641-00468222-00469006 and then in the second phase the UID t +C52mUHWvMB0-01642-00469007-00469741 always has to be less than zero so if I +C52mUHWvMB0-01643-00469742-00470128 run this so what I've done here I should +C52mUHWvMB0-01644-00470129-00470350 explain them on this more I've added two +C52mUHWvMB0-01645-00470351-00470593 phases my default nomenclature in my +C52mUHWvMB0-01646-00470593-00470745 head is always phase zero phase one +C52mUHWvMB0-01647-00470746-00471013 phase an but you can name these whatever +C52mUHWvMB0-01648-00471014-00471397 you want and then the trajectory object +C52mUHWvMB0-01649-00471397-00471613 I say I want to link two phases together +C52mUHWvMB0-01650-00471614-00471832 I want phase zero to be connected to +C52mUHWvMB0-01651-00471833-00472033 phase one I want them to be continuous +C52mUHWvMB0-01652-00472034-00472438 in time X Y and feet so I want to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01653-00472439-00472762 them to be continuous in time my control +C52mUHWvMB0-01654-00472763-00473374 variable in my state variables the +C52mUHWvMB0-01655-00473375-00473568 velocity parameter I don't want to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01656-00473570-00473722 owned by a phase anymore I don't want +C52mUHWvMB0-01657-00473722-00473889 each phase to be separately deciding +C52mUHWvMB0-01658-00473891-00474145 what its best speed is I want one best +C52mUHWvMB0-01659-00474146-00474283 speed throughout the entire trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-01660-00474284-00474553 and I want that to be fed to my phases +C52mUHWvMB0-01661-00474554-00474928 so I can add a design parameter at the +C52mUHWvMB0-01662-00474929-00475108 trajectory level so tragic design +C52mUHWvMB0-01663-00475109-00475591 parameter I'm gonna add V and I'm saying +C52mUHWvMB0-01664-00475592-00475867 alright in phase zero I want that to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01665-00475868-00476170 connected to this target in phase one I +C52mUHWvMB0-01666-00476171-00476452 want it to be connected to this target +C52mUHWvMB0-01667-00476453-00476683 there are various rules for how these +C52mUHWvMB0-01668-00476684-00476889 custom targets work because admittedly +C52mUHWvMB0-01669-00476891-00477082 if you have a complex system this list +C52mUHWvMB0-01670-00477083-00477214 of potential targets in these phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01671-00477214-00477625 grows a lot there are a few options you +C52mUHWvMB0-01672-00477626-00477808 can do in your first phase you can you +C52mUHWvMB0-01673-00477809-00478012 can manually add an input parameter to +C52mUHWvMB0-01674-00478013-00478234 your first phase and input parameters +C52mUHWvMB0-01675-00478235-00478363 essentially just a pass through that +C52mUHWvMB0-01676-00478364-00478543 says I'm going to accept this variable +C52mUHWvMB0-01677-00478543-00478717 from the outside world and I'm going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01678-00478718-00479029 send it to whoever in my a needs it and +C52mUHWvMB0-01679-00479030-00479407 that is effectively what tragic +C52mUHWvMB0-01680-00479408-00479587 parameters demand of each phase and +C52mUHWvMB0-01681-00479588-00479716 that's what is going on under the hood +C52mUHWvMB0-01682-00479717-00479941 here if you want to escape this +C52mUHWvMB0-01683-00479942-00480127 verbosity you could have kind of +C52mUHWvMB0-01684-00480128-00480310 declared those input parameters on each +C52mUHWvMB0-01685-00480310-00480616 phase and then just say I think I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-01686-00480617-00480745 going to leave this out and it's going +C52mUHWvMB0-01687-00480746-00480784 to +C52mUHWvMB0-01688-00480785-00481039 no each phase has an input parameter in +C52mUHWvMB0-01689-00481039-00481195 V I'm just going to assume that you want +C52mUHWvMB0-01690-00481196-00481597 that connection to happen and but so +C52mUHWvMB0-01691-00481597-00481750 that's the crux here is we have one +C52mUHWvMB0-01692-00481751-00481897 constant V throughout the entire +C52mUHWvMB0-01693-00481897-00482193 trajectory so if you were designing a +C52mUHWvMB0-01694-00482195-00482343 launch vehicle or an aircraft this would +C52mUHWvMB0-01695-00482345-00482524 be a constant parameter associated with +C52mUHWvMB0-01696-00482525-00482929 the design like your wind span or or +C52mUHWvMB0-01697-00482930-00483197 your dry mass or something like that and +C52mUHWvMB0-01698-00483199-00483517 then we're going to optimize the problem +C52mUHWvMB0-01699-00483518-00483982 I guess one more thing here's why so now +C52mUHWvMB0-01700-00483983-00484159 instead of with just guessing values for +C52mUHWvMB0-01701-00484160-00484342 my first phase and I have to take the +C52mUHWvMB0-01702-00484343-00484495 time to guess values for my second phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01703-00484496-00484993 and then also critically is in my one +C52mUHWvMB0-01704-00484993-00485281 phase solution I had a fixed initial +C52mUHWvMB0-01705-00485282-00485464 condition on each state variable and I +C52mUHWvMB0-01706-00485464-00485622 knew where my final state was here I +C52mUHWvMB0-01707-00485624-00485835 don't know where my final state is so +C52mUHWvMB0-01708-00485837-00486022 I'm going to let diamonds vary the final +C52mUHWvMB0-01709-00486022-00486357 value of x and y in the first phase and +C52mUHWvMB0-01710-00486358-00486595 then in the second phase I don't know +C52mUHWvMB0-01711-00486596-00486772 what the initial value of x and y and +C52mUHWvMB0-01712-00486772-00486931 that phase should be but because I've +C52mUHWvMB0-01713-00486932-00487096 linked done the linked phases together +C52mUHWvMB0-01714-00487097-00487354 all it knows is that X in the first +C52mUHWvMB0-01715-00487355-00487576 phase has to equal X final X in the +C52mUHWvMB0-01716-00487577-00487720 first phase has to equal initial X in +C52mUHWvMB0-01717-00487721-00487939 the second phase and the same for Y and +C52mUHWvMB0-01718-00487939-00488080 then in the second phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01719-00488081-00488332 I do know where I'm going to end up so I +C52mUHWvMB0-01720-00488333-00488758 can just fix my final value there so if +C52mUHWvMB0-01721-00488759-00488983 you if you miss a connection like this +C52mUHWvMB0-01722-00488984-00489181 and actually accidentally say oh this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01723-00489182-00489454 true things are going to go south in a +C52mUHWvMB0-01724-00489455-00489553 hurry is probably going to say it's +C52mUHWvMB0-01725-00489554-00489826 infeasible it can't be done so this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01726-00489827-00489967 one of the things that you have to be +C52mUHWvMB0-01727-00489968-00490087 really careful with when setting up +C52mUHWvMB0-01728-00490088-00490233 problems like this or all of my +C52mUHWvMB0-01729-00490234-00491433 constraints compatible with one another +C52mUHWvMB0-01730-00491434-00492835 so there that's from +C52mUHWvMB0-01731-00492835-00493137 it might be hard to see there's an ever +C52mUHWvMB0-01732-00493138-00493381 so slight blip up here at the very +C52mUHWvMB0-01733-00493382-00494368 northernmost extent +C52mUHWvMB0-01734-00494368-00494770 right there the face which is over from +C52mUHWvMB0-01735-00494771-00497685 first phase the second phase +C52mUHWvMB0-01736-00497685-00498054 yeah +C52mUHWvMB0-01737-00498055-00498314 one of the things I mentioned I think +C52mUHWvMB0-01738-00498316-00498610 this might be the last example I have +C52mUHWvMB0-01739-00498610-00498739 here and then I'm happy to show you +C52mUHWvMB0-01740-00498739-00498988 whatever other questions you may have +C52mUHWvMB0-01741-00498989-00499363 I mentioned that we do shooting methods +C52mUHWvMB0-01742-00499364-00499663 and the way we do shooting methods from +C52mUHWvMB0-01743-00499664-00499804 a pseudo spectral context is that +C52mUHWvMB0-01744-00499805-00500139 instant is that the first state variable +C52mUHWvMB0-01745-00500141-00500397 in the phase so typically if you're +C52mUHWvMB0-01746-00500398-00500514 integrating forward in time that would +C52mUHWvMB0-01747-00500516-00500629 be the first value of your state +C52mUHWvMB0-01748-00500630-00500971 variable when we do a shooting method +C52mUHWvMB0-01749-00500972-00501151 that becomes the design parameter the +C52mUHWvMB0-01750-00501152-00501349 design variable and all the other +C52mUHWvMB0-01751-00501350-00501520 variables all the other state variables +C52mUHWvMB0-01752-00501521-00501763 in that sequence are essentially +C52mUHWvMB0-01753-00501764-00502068 controlled by the solver so we have a +C52mUHWvMB0-01754-00502070-00502270 solver that goes through and says okay I +C52mUHWvMB0-01755-00502271-00502408 know where you said you wanted to start +C52mUHWvMB0-01756-00502409-00502807 now I'm going to hit all of your of your +C52mUHWvMB0-01757-00502808-00503731 final conditions for you and so this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01758-00503732-00503905 using a shooting method so each +C52mUHWvMB0-01759-00503906-00504088 iteration here we have a feasible +C52mUHWvMB0-01760-00504089-00504325 trajectory the solver is going through +C52mUHWvMB0-01761-00504326-00504789 and converging our variables for us that +C52mUHWvMB0-01762-00504791-00504949 edition of the solver under the hood is +C52mUHWvMB0-01763-00504950-00505099 one of the things that slows us down if +C52mUHWvMB0-01764-00505100-00505324 we look at the sparsity pattern of this +C52mUHWvMB0-01765-00505325-00505474 problem we're also going to see that +C52mUHWvMB0-01766-00505475-00505722 it's quite a bit different than the +C52mUHWvMB0-01767-00505723-00507390 problem had been before +C52mUHWvMB0-01768-00507391-00507637 now I don't have any colocation +C52mUHWvMB0-01769-00507638-00507802 constraints all of my constraints are of +C52mUHWvMB0-01770-00507803-00508269 the continuity type and and path +C52mUHWvMB0-01771-00508270-00508450 constraints these are the linkage +C52mUHWvMB0-01772-00508451-00508785 constraints saying that yes your control +C52mUHWvMB0-01773-00508786-00509043 time and states between phase one and +C52mUHWvMB0-01774-00509044-00509945 phase two your a difference but in these +C52mUHWvMB0-01775-00509946-00510240 shooting methods where you are at any +C52mUHWvMB0-01776-00510241-00510412 point in the future depends on where I +C52mUHWvMB0-01777-00510413-00510712 am now so I essentially lose a lot of my +C52mUHWvMB0-01778-00510713-00511371 sparsity so I'm only getting one point +C52mUHWvMB0-01779-00511372-00511537 eight percent improvement by using the +C52mUHWvMB0-01780-00511538-00511848 sparsity coloring algorithm from open M +C52mUHWvMB0-01781-00511849-00512067 video in this case it's just not as good +C52mUHWvMB0-01782-00512068-00513602 if I go back and run example six +C52mUHWvMB0-01783-00513603-00513789 when I was running in the pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-01784-00513789-00514010 spectral mode making sure I'd to find +C52mUHWvMB0-01785-00514012-00514172 all my sparsity as I was getting a 93 +C52mUHWvMB0-01786-00514174-00514322 percent improvement in my sparsity +C52mUHWvMB0-01787-00514324-00514755 pattern so yes it's true and that +C52mUHWvMB0-01788-00514756-00515088 open-end Dao has adjoint mode and it can +C52mUHWvMB0-01789-00515089-00515322 more effectively run shooting methods +C52mUHWvMB0-01790-00515322-00515592 because of that but I still typically +C52mUHWvMB0-01791-00515593-00515778 find especially in a problem like this +C52mUHWvMB0-01792-00515779-00516047 without any implicitness within the OD e +C52mUHWvMB0-01793-00516049-00516429 that you're better off just using a +C52mUHWvMB0-01794-00516430-00516702 pseudo special thing with the exception +C52mUHWvMB0-01795-00516703-00516891 that if all you care about is analysis +C52mUHWvMB0-01796-00516892-00517035 and all you care about is getting a +C52mUHWvMB0-01797-00517035-00517212 converged solution and you don't want to +C52mUHWvMB0-01798-00517213-00517485 involve the optimizer then when you have +C52mUHWvMB0-01799-00517485-00517671 solve segments enabled and you call run +C52mUHWvMB0-01800-00517672-00517896 model in the process of doing the run +C52mUHWvMB0-01801-00517897-00518043 model all of your solvers are going to +C52mUHWvMB0-01802-00518043-00518202 converge and you're going to get out a +C52mUHWvMB0-01803-00518203-00518379 feasible trajectory out of that that's +C52mUHWvMB0-01804-00518380-00518685 going to match your control profile as +C52mUHWvMB0-01805-00518685-00518892 long as it's possible to do so given +C52mUHWvMB0-01806-00518893-00519866 your current grid +C52mUHWvMB0-01807-00519867-00520139 so that is what I prepared does anyone +C52mUHWvMB0-01808-00520141-00520310 have any questions are there any other +C52mUHWvMB0-01809-00520312-00520500 examples in the example suite you'd like +C52mUHWvMB0-01810-00520501-00520692 me to run through I'm happy to show you +C52mUHWvMB0-01811-00520693-00521081 whatever you like +C52mUHWvMB0-01812-00521082-00523664 yes excellent question so I saw in both +C52mUHWvMB0-01813-00523664-00523950 talks this morning videos I'm sorry the +C52mUHWvMB0-01814-00523951-00524280 question is is can Deimos perform +C52mUHWvMB0-01815-00524281-00524433 trajectory optimization where you don't +C52mUHWvMB0-01816-00524434-00524598 opera or you understand the order of +C52mUHWvMB0-01817-00524599-00524961 your phases so one example in which we +C52mUHWvMB0-01818-00524962-00525111 encounter this commonly is during a +C52mUHWvMB0-01819-00525112-00525279 launch vehicle ascent when do we +C52mUHWvMB0-01820-00525280-00525492 jettison the shroud or do we jettison +C52mUHWvMB0-01821-00525493-00525702 the shroud well the second stage is +C52mUHWvMB0-01822-00525703-00525900 burning or do we jettison it you know +C52mUHWvMB0-01823-00525901-00526092 before after some other event on the +C52mUHWvMB0-01824-00526093-00526211 vehicle +C52mUHWvMB0-01825-00526212-00526494 unfortunately right now the way this is +C52mUHWvMB0-01826-00526495-00526809 built you have to propose the time +C52mUHWvMB0-01827-00526810-00527067 history a priori I have and I don't know +C52mUHWvMB0-01828-00527068-00527247 if they know if you've dealt with this I +C52mUHWvMB0-01829-00527248-00527507 have some ideas of how we might fix that +C52mUHWvMB0-01830-00527508-00528474 but that would be kind of +C52mUHWvMB0-01831-00528475-00529158 yeah yeah yeah the topology optimization +C52mUHWvMB0-01832-00529159-00529344 talks have given me some ideas how I +C52mUHWvMB0-01833-00529345-00529557 might like essentially use a like +C52mUHWvMB0-01834-00529558-00529716 density to link those together and force +C52mUHWvMB0-01835-00529717-00529935 that to happen but at the moment no you +C52mUHWvMB0-01836-00529936-00532709 have to prescribe that aa priori yes so +C52mUHWvMB0-01837-00532710-00533052 so Otis comes with very high fidelity +C52mUHWvMB0-01838-00533053-00533385 while three DAF aerospace equations of +C52mUHWvMB0-01839-00533386-00533685 motion because of its heritage and +C52mUHWvMB0-01840-00533686-00533871 because of those include the inclusion +C52mUHWvMB0-01841-00533872-00534159 of those it's subject to export control +C52mUHWvMB0-01842-00534160-00534417 and I tire and I want this to be open so +C52mUHWvMB0-01843-00534418-00534606 I don't ever I don't think I intend to +C52mUHWvMB0-01844-00534607-00534813 ever include any high fidelity equations +C52mUHWvMB0-01845-00534814-00534960 of motion with this other than like +C52mUHWvMB0-01846-00534961-00535164 those Texas things Al's textbooks and +C52mUHWvMB0-01847-00535165-00535584 the the basic example problems I know +C52mUHWvMB0-01848-00535585-00535959 one of the hot topics is co-state +C52mUHWvMB0-01849-00535960-00536178 estimation so when I talked about Co +C52mUHWvMB0-01850-00536179-00536370 States being not fun to derive you can +C52mUHWvMB0-01851-00536371-00536544 approximate those based on the solution +C52mUHWvMB0-01852-00536545-00536856 I haven't generally we're driven by need +C52mUHWvMB0-01853-00536857-00537066 and I haven't had a need to derive those +C52mUHWvMB0-01854-00537067-00537387 yet so those are the two that come off +C52mUHWvMB0-01855-00537388-00538343 with atop my head sorry sorry the way +C52mUHWvMB0-01856-00538344-00538557 that mesh refinement works right now +C52mUHWvMB0-01857-00538558-00538785 under both Gauss lobato Andrew Dao I +C52mUHWvMB0-01858-00538786-00539058 have not put it in to work with RK +C52mUHWvMB0-01859-00539059-00539205 technically the way our case system +C52mUHWvMB0-01860-00539206-00539553 works is that each RK step we call a +C52mUHWvMB0-01861-00539554-00539790 segment to make it kind of compatible +C52mUHWvMB0-01862-00539791-00539994 again I feel like it's a little kludgy +C52mUHWvMB0-01863-00539995-00540141 and now that we have shooting methods +C52mUHWvMB0-01864-00540142-00540306 available through the solve segments I +C52mUHWvMB0-01865-00540307-00540489 don't know if our K technique is +C52mUHWvMB0-01866-00540490-00541224 actually necessary +C52mUHWvMB0-01867-00541225-00542008 any other questions yes I will put this +C52mUHWvMB0-01868-00542009-00543069 on the docs page it is not up there yet +C52mUHWvMB0-01869-00543070-00543373 well it's funny because like Eric posed +C52mUHWvMB0-01870-00543374-00543496 it to me and then I started working on +C52mUHWvMB0-01871-00543497-00543658 it and I immediately hit you know the +C52mUHWvMB0-01872-00543659-00543903 the square root error and the and the +C52mUHWvMB0-01873-00543904-00544084 stationary point hair and I was like oh +C52mUHWvMB0-01874-00544085-00544213 this is really good case to demonstrate +C52mUHWvMB0-01875-00544214-00544387 because like off the bat it's like why +C52mUHWvMB0-01876-00544388-00544639 isn't it working so it's nice to have a +C52mUHWvMB0-01877-00544640-00544876 basic example that encounters problems +C52mUHWvMB0-01878-00544877-00545026 that you're probably going to see at +C52mUHWvMB0-01879-00545027-00545131 some point if you're working the time +C52mUHWvMB0-01880-00545132-00545740 house yes they are in there if they are +C52mUHWvMB0-01881-00545741-00545878 in the Deimos repository there's an +C52mUHWvMB0-01882-00545879-00546028 examples directory under there and then +C52mUHWvMB0-01883-00546029-00546340 there's documentation and we take the +C52mUHWvMB0-01884-00546341-00546574 open M Bao form of documentation where +C52mUHWvMB0-01885-00546575-00546829 we have effectively like the the code +C52mUHWvMB0-01886-00546830-00546976 that you see in our documentation are +C52mUHWvMB0-01887-00546977-00547255 part of our tests so that we can be sure +C52mUHWvMB0-01888-00547256-00547387 that whenever we push up a new version +C52mUHWvMB0-01889-00547388-00547528 of Deimos that we're sure that all of +C52mUHWvMB0-01890-00547529-00547711 our documented tests or documented cases +C52mUHWvMB0-01891-00547712-00547867 are working because they were tested but +C52mUHWvMB0-01892-00547868-00549201 yeah okay +C52mUHWvMB0-01893-00549202-00550093 let me just check +C52mUHWvMB0-01894-00550094-00551572 so Deimos examples let's find out that's +C52mUHWvMB0-01895-00551573-00551752 easy enough that's easy enough to test +C52mUHWvMB0-01896-00551753-00552049 so yeah I try really hard not to publish +C52mUHWvMB0-01897-00552050-00552220 too many examples that don't solve with +C52mUHWvMB0-01898-00552221-00552355 S&OP because I understand not everybody +C52mUHWvMB0-01899-00552356-00552592 has it but you also kind of run out of +C52mUHWvMB0-01900-00552593-00552811 problems that SLS qpp can solve at some +C52mUHWvMB0-01901-00552812-00555541 point so let's go back to 6 +C52mUHWvMB0-01902-00555542-00556780 it looks like it did yep so it looks +C52mUHWvMB0-01903-00556781-00557022 like I saw skip he was good enough to +C52mUHWvMB0-01904-00557023-00559177 solve this yes yes so we have yeah the +C52mUHWvMB0-01905-00559178-00559297 question was when we create the +C52mUHWvMB0-01906-00559298-00559606 trajectory you give it the class of your +C52mUHWvMB0-01907-00559607-00559870 Eau de technically the we actually do +C52mUHWvMB0-01908-00559871-00560047 that at the phase level but the question +C52mUHWvMB0-01909-00560048-00560209 was if I need other arguments to +C52mUHWvMB0-01910-00560210-00560614 instantiate that my co de system things +C52mUHWvMB0-01911-00560615-00560841 that would be options declared and +C52mUHWvMB0-01912-00560842-00560910 initialize +C52mUHWvMB0-01913-00560911-00561172 how do I give those we have an argument +C52mUHWvMB0-01914-00561173-00561345 called Eau de Annette kwargs which is +C52mUHWvMB0-01915-00561346-00561604 essentially a key a key value dictionary +C52mUHWvMB0-01916-00561605-00561805 of all the arguments you went past to +C52mUHWvMB0-01917-00561806-00562089 the Eau de so we've used that like you +C52mUHWvMB0-01918-00562090-00562255 know essentially to toggle at +C52mUHWvMB0-01919-00562256-00562456 instantiation time what model do I want +C52mUHWvMB0-01920-00562457-00562576 to use and then we can look in there +C52mUHWvMB0-01921-00562577-00562822 inside the Eau de - fork off you know +C52mUHWvMB0-01922-00562823-00563077 instantiation time how do we want to +C52mUHWvMB0-01923-00563078-00563476 build this system that's an argument to +C52mUHWvMB0-01924-00563477-00565216 to face +C52mUHWvMB0-01925-00565217-00565571 yes so probably the best example I have +C52mUHWvMB0-01926-00565572-00565835 of that when I was racking my brain +C52mUHWvMB0-01927-00565836-00566123 trying to come up with kind of a toy +C52mUHWvMB0-01928-00566124-00566276 level problem that demonstrated that +C52mUHWvMB0-01929-00566277-00566552 capability and repeat the question +C52mUHWvMB0-01930-00566553-00566843 sorry the question is is if we're +C52mUHWvMB0-01931-00566844-00566996 interested in passing in outside +C52mUHWvMB0-01932-00566997-00567214 variables to the trajectory optimization +C52mUHWvMB0-01933-00567215-00567692 how do we go about doing that I'm going +C52mUHWvMB0-01934-00567693-00569187 to pull up in Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-01935-00569188-00569554 so I have this example where I was +C52mUHWvMB0-01936-00569555-00569737 trying to figure out what kind of design +C52mUHWvMB0-01937-00569738-00569917 and fly and be a relatively simple +C52mUHWvMB0-01938-00569918-00570091 problem so I settled on a cannonball +C52mUHWvMB0-01939-00570092-00570340 cannonball into deep space is very easy +C52mUHWvMB0-01940-00570341-00570649 to solve what's the best cannonball that +C52mUHWvMB0-01941-00570650-00570892 I can fly in a trajectory subject to the +C52mUHWvMB0-01942-00570893-00571075 aerodynamic drag and assuming that I +C52mUHWvMB0-01943-00571076-00571207 have some limit to the energy with which +C52mUHWvMB0-01944-00571208-00571519 my cannon can kick it so if I pick a +C52mUHWvMB0-01945-00571520-00571918 really big ball cannonball I'll have you +C52mUHWvMB0-01946-00571919-00572314 know very good ballistic coefficient +C52mUHWvMB0-01947-00572315-00572563 I'll carry a fire direction or a far +C52mUHWvMB0-01948-00572564-00572869 distance but I don't have I'm too heavy +C52mUHWvMB0-01949-00572870-00573076 and the cannon can't throw me as far so +C52mUHWvMB0-01950-00573077-00573324 there's probably some combination of +C52mUHWvMB0-01951-00573325-00573690 what's the best radius of a cannonball +C52mUHWvMB0-01952-00573691-00573934 so that I get a good ballistic +C52mUHWvMB0-01953-00573935-00574240 coefficient but also and not too draggy +C52mUHWvMB0-01954-00574241-00574411 and then also what angle should the +C52mUHWvMB0-01955-00574412-00574753 cannon shoot yet so in this example here +C52mUHWvMB0-01956-00574754-00575143 I purposely broke this cannonball case +C52mUHWvMB0-01957-00575144-00575349 into two phases I have a scent and +C52mUHWvMB0-01958-00575350-00575955 descent and then I have this external +C52mUHWvMB0-01959-00575956-00576172 component ahead of that as external +C52mUHWvMB0-01960-00576173-00576610 system I'm that I'm providing a radius +C52mUHWvMB0-01961-00576611-00576799 and a density and I believe that's the +C52mUHWvMB0-01962-00576800-00576978 density of iron if I remember correctly +C52mUHWvMB0-01963-00576979-00577366 and then I add as a design variable +C52mUHWvMB0-01964-00577367-00577654 since this is not in a Deimos trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-01965-00577655-00577936 yet this is just a standard open MDO at +C52mUHWvMB0-01966-00577937-00578215 design bark all that said like pick the +C52mUHWvMB0-01967-00578216-00578386 best radius for a cannonball that has +C52mUHWvMB0-01968-00578387-00578677 this density and then I add my +C52mUHWvMB0-01969-00578678-00579310 trajectory subsystem and my trajectory +C52mUHWvMB0-01970-00579311-00579586 has a lot of design parameters that are +C52mUHWvMB0-01971-00579587-00579766 not optimized so that says this +C52mUHWvMB0-01972-00579767-00579943 trajectory owns this parameter but I +C52mUHWvMB0-01973-00579944-00580150 don't want to optimize it just basically +C52mUHWvMB0-01974-00580151-00580405 where does that end up far comp live and +C52mUHWvMB0-01975-00580406-00580728 here drag coefficient lift coefficient +C52mUHWvMB0-01976-00580729-00580852 thrust +C52mUHWvMB0-01977-00580853-00581002 I have thrust because I'm using the +C52mUHWvMB0-01978-00581003-00581236 equations of motion for 2d aircraft +C52mUHWvMB0-01979-00581237-00581472 I'm just saying thrust of 0 at alpha +C52mUHWvMB0-01980-00581473-00581764 zero and poof I have a cannonball and +C52mUHWvMB0-01981-00581765-00582055 then I'm saying oh my trajectory also +C52mUHWvMB0-01982-00582056-00582349 has this input parameter input +C52mUHWvMB0-01983-00582350-00582456 parameters knee +C52mUHWvMB0-01984-00582457-00583002 yep it's name is M and then I connect +C52mUHWvMB0-01985-00583003-00583306 from my sizing Kampf mass goes to the +C52mUHWvMB0-01986-00583307-00583501 input parameter M and the external +C52mUHWvMB0-01987-00583502-00583806 component reference area goes to input +C52mUHWvMB0-01988-00583807-00584422 parameter s and if I run that that it +C52mUHWvMB0-01989-00584423-00584622 was probably there six months ago but +C52mUHWvMB0-01990-00584623-00585451 it's reasonably new but yeah so but this +C52mUHWvMB0-01991-00585452-00585624 is the trajectory so it basically +C52mUHWvMB0-01992-00585625-00585822 simultaneously figured out how far can I +C52mUHWvMB0-01993-00585823-00585958 throw this cannonball and what +C52mUHWvMB0-01994-00585959-00586218 cannonball can I throw the farthest so +C52mUHWvMB0-01995-00586219-00588156 that was my when you say when you say +C52mUHWvMB0-01996-00588157-00588328 multi-mission do you mean one mission +C52mUHWvMB0-01997-00588329-00588460 with multiple branches or do you mean +C52mUHWvMB0-01998-00588461-00588649 like multi point where I have like two +C52mUHWvMB0-01999-00588650-00590360 in completely independent missions I +C52mUHWvMB0-02000-00590361-00590595 think the official answer is it doesn't +C52mUHWvMB0-02001-00590596-00590831 matter but in my brain +C52mUHWvMB0-02002-00590832-00591043 each trajectory is essentially a +C52mUHWvMB0-02003-00591044-00591256 separate vehicle typically and then the +C52mUHWvMB0-02004-00591257-00591391 vehicle design can come in from the +C52mUHWvMB0-02005-00591392-00591489 outside but each of those trajectories +C52mUHWvMB0-02006-00591490-00591751 like so if I have one vehicle that's you +C52mUHWvMB0-02007-00591752-00591979 know going to go to a scent and then +C52mUHWvMB0-02008-00591980-00592210 perhaps or you know perform an abort +C52mUHWvMB0-02009-00592211-00592470 like you know a launch scenario where I +C52mUHWvMB0-02010-00592471-00592645 have you know here's my due east launch +C52mUHWvMB0-02011-00592646-00592927 out of the Cape and I'm going to launch +C52mUHWvMB0-02012-00592928-00593062 and then I have a fly back booster come +C52mUHWvMB0-02013-00593063-00593203 out how do i optimize that problem +C52mUHWvMB0-02014-00593204-00593433 that's one trajectory with with a series +C52mUHWvMB0-02015-00593434-00593593 of branching phases and everything and +C52mUHWvMB0-02016-00593594-00593758 then ever the separate trajectory which +C52mUHWvMB0-02017-00593759-00593935 is like okay now my ISS mission that's +C52mUHWvMB0-02018-00593936-00594079 going up to fifty one six degrees +C52mUHWvMB0-02019-00594080-00594133 inclination +C52mUHWvMB0-02020-00594134-00594366 here's that trajectory and then I have +C52mUHWvMB0-02021-00594367-00594547 some commonality and as far as the +C52mUHWvMB0-02022-00594548-00594691 design components that are being saw +C52mUHWvMB0-02023-00594692-00594862 size outside that are going into those +C52mUHWvMB0-02024-00594863-00595108 that's in my brain and how it works +C52mUHWvMB0-02025-00595109-00595293 correctly I I'm not gonna say that's the +C52mUHWvMB0-02026-00595294-00595431 right way or the best way to do it but +C52mUHWvMB0-02027-00595432-00595800 that's how I would approach it +C52mUHWvMB0-02028-00595801-00596158 good question I don't I this is an area +C52mUHWvMB0-02029-00596159-00596314 that we're still getting into as far as +C52mUHWvMB0-02030-00596315-00596541 like multiple multiple trajectories is +C52mUHWvMB0-02031-00596542-00596914 how how can I best solve each one of +C52mUHWvMB0-02032-00596915-00597082 those trajectories and still like to me +C52mUHWvMB0-02033-00597083-00597361 it's almost like I don't like to do CEO +C52mUHWvMB0-02034-00597362-00597501 I don't I don't want to have multiple +C52mUHWvMB0-02035-00597502-00597714 optimizations so I'm thinking is there a +C52mUHWvMB0-02036-00597715-00597880 way where I can quantify cost or +C52mUHWvMB0-02037-00597881-00598108 something outside and effectively get +C52mUHWvMB0-02038-00598109-00598252 each one of those trajectories to solve +C52mUHWvMB0-02039-00598253-00598474 itself optimally or at least near enough +C52mUHWvMB0-02040-00598475-00598600 optimal that the global should an +C52mUHWvMB0-02041-00598601-00598834 optimization objective function will be +C52mUHWvMB0-02042-00598835-00599116 satisfied and that that's what I'm +C52mUHWvMB0-02043-00599117-00599356 thinking right now is perhaps perhaps +C52mUHWvMB0-02044-00599357-00599599 your control variables are more simple +C52mUHWvMB0-02045-00599600-00599745 so you just have simple guidance laws +C52mUHWvMB0-02046-00599746-00600028 controlling those trajectories if you +C52mUHWvMB0-02047-00600029-00600232 wanted to you could derive like the two +C52mUHWvMB0-02048-00600233-00600366 point boundary value problem for these +C52mUHWvMB0-02049-00600367-00600564 and solve them that way and then and +C52mUHWvMB0-02050-00600565-00600841 then effectively just meeting certain +C52mUHWvMB0-02051-00600842-00601009 constraints would find your optimal +C52mUHWvMB0-02052-00601010-00601177 trajectory not that I'm recommending +C52mUHWvMB0-02053-00601178-00601333 doing that but that's one possible +C52mUHWvMB0-02054-00601334-00601489 approach to hey let's let's optimize +C52mUHWvMB0-02055-00601490-00601712 multiple vehicle trajectories +C52mUHWvMB0-02056-00601713-00602047 simultaneously to obtain one one +C52mUHWvMB0-02057-00602048-00602364 essentially overarching objective you +C52mUHWvMB0-02058-00602365-00602608 had use the term branch trajectory and +C52mUHWvMB0-02059-00602609-00602785 then so I just want to do address that +C52mUHWvMB0-02060-00602786-00602997 real quick if you actually have say like +C52mUHWvMB0-02061-00602998-00603274 one phase that you want shared and then +C52mUHWvMB0-02062-00603275-00603451 you want to literally branch off of that +C52mUHWvMB0-02063-00603452-00603700 so for example like an aircraft that's +C52mUHWvMB0-02064-00603701-00603997 going to take off normally or maybe +C52mUHWvMB0-02065-00603998-00604183 vertically and then at that point you +C52mUHWvMB0-02066-00604184-00604336 want to consider both entering normal +C52mUHWvMB0-02067-00604337-00604606 cruise and a two-minute hover so if +C52mUHWvMB0-02068-00604607-00604693 you're trying to do those kinds of +C52mUHWvMB0-02069-00604694-00604855 branch trajectories then those should +C52mUHWvMB0-02070-00604856-00605131 all be in the same trajectory object but +C52mUHWvMB0-02071-00605132-00605241 if the trajectories really are +C52mUHWvMB0-02072-00605242-00605428 completely independent then I think they +C52mUHWvMB0-02073-00605429-00605626 should be in separate trajectory objects +C52mUHWvMB0-02074-00605627-00606010 I mean it is ultimately it's up to you +C52mUHWvMB0-02075-00606011-00606172 but that's the way my brain wouldn't +C52mUHWvMB0-02076-00606173-00606349 would do it yeah Green has problems +C52mUHWvMB0-02077-00606350-00606511 though okay I can't promise that that's +C52mUHWvMB0-02078-00606512-00606736 the best way you might find a convenient +C52mUHWvMB0-02079-00606737-00606856 to just put them all in the same +C52mUHWvMB0-02080-00606857-00606991 trajectory if like they had the same +C52mUHWvMB0-02081-00606992-00607150 names and the same design parameters are +C52mUHWvMB0-02082-00607151-00607437 going everywhere that there can be lots +C52mUHWvMB0-02083-00607438-00607582 of phases that don't technically +C52mUHWvMB0-02084-00607583-00607729 interact with each other at all in a +C52mUHWvMB0-02085-00607730-00608262 trajectory that's not a problem I guess +C52mUHWvMB0-02086-00608263-00608458 the only other related topic is we now +C52mUHWvMB0-02087-00608459-00608641 also have something called tandem phases +C52mUHWvMB0-02088-00608642-00608884 which are explicitly phases that have +C52mUHWvMB0-02089-00608885-00609064 the same initial condition +C52mUHWvMB0-02090-00609065-00609310 and duration but they have separate time +C52mUHWvMB0-02091-00609311-00609499 descritization so they could use either +C52mUHWvMB0-02092-00609500-00609679 a separate number of nodes or different +C52mUHWvMB0-02093-00609680-00609886 orders or even one could use Rideau and +C52mUHWvMB0-02094-00609887-00610014 the other could use Gauss lovato +C52mUHWvMB0-02095-00610015-00610309 and we implemented that specifically +C52mUHWvMB0-02096-00610310-00610474 because we found that for example like +C52mUHWvMB0-02097-00610475-00610651 the Oh de for the thermal condition +C52mUHWvMB0-02098-00610652-00610945 required a different scheme than the Oh +C52mUHWvMB0-02099-00610946-00611062 de for the flight conditions +C52mUHWvMB0-02100-00611063-00611239 specifically the Oh de for the thermal +C52mUHWvMB0-02101-00611240-00611410 condition needed to be much finer +C52mUHWvMB0-02102-00611411-00611572 discretization than the one for the +C52mUHWvMB0-02103-00611573-00611902 flight mechanics so we set those up as +C52mUHWvMB0-02104-00611903-00612148 separate trajectories and then Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-02105-00612149-00612274 has the ability to interpolate between +C52mUHWvMB0-02106-00612275-00612526 the two grids to kind of pass +C52mUHWvMB0-02107-00612527-00612886 information between those two so it is +C52mUHWvMB0-02108-00612887-00613039 possible to have different time +C52mUHWvMB0-02109-00613040-00613251 discretization x' for different OD ease +C52mUHWvMB0-02110-00613252-00613588 that then interpolate from each other so +C52mUHWvMB0-02111-00613589-00613732 that you could in theory solve them all +C52mUHWvMB0-02112-00613733-00614077 together in in that situation for +C52mUHWvMB0-02113-00614078-00614215 instance for the thermal phase in +C52mUHWvMB0-02114-00614216-00614395 analyzing the thermal system we need to +C52mUHWvMB0-02115-00614396-00614605 know how fast we're going that then +C52mUHWvMB0-02116-00614606-00614806 comes in effectively as a control that +C52mUHWvMB0-02117-00614807-00614974 that phase is not interpolating that as +C52mUHWvMB0-02118-00614975-00615136 a state so we pass that in as a control +C52mUHWvMB0-02119-00615137-00615370 but that that control time history is +C52mUHWvMB0-02120-00615371-00615553 effectively the resulting state time +C52mUHWvMB0-02121-00615554-00615760 history from previous phase we just +C52mUHWvMB0-02122-00615761-00615931 interpolate it on to the same grid that +C52mUHWvMB0-02123-00615932-00616105 this phase needs it it comes over and +C52mUHWvMB0-02124-00616106-00616411 poof we have our are necessarily +C52mUHWvMB0-02125-00616412-00616669 necessary input for our control time +C52mUHWvMB0-02126-00616670-00617002 history it's probably easier to show +C52mUHWvMB0-02127-00617003-00617245 that than it is to I'll have to make an +C52mUHWvMB0-02128-00617246-00617476 example for a painting phase to +C52mUHWvMB0-02129-00617477-00618872 demonstrate +C52mUHWvMB0-02130-00618873-00619272 with with Deimos so far we've admittedly +C52mUHWvMB0-02131-00619273-00619645 been solving much simpler problems 2d +C52mUHWvMB0-02132-00619646-00619849 aircraft type problems that scenario +C52mUHWvMB0-02133-00619850-00620011 happened all the time with Otis where it +C52mUHWvMB0-02134-00620012-00620245 was like okay how do i and typically the +C52mUHWvMB0-02135-00620246-00620425 way we would address it with Otis and +C52mUHWvMB0-02136-00620426-00620689 what I'm working to now is let me let me +C52mUHWvMB0-02137-00620690-00620929 runs call simulate and get just guess a +C52mUHWvMB0-02138-00620930-00621109 control profile and then simulate it out +C52mUHWvMB0-02139-00621110-00621301 and then take that result in control +C52mUHWvMB0-02140-00621302-00621553 time history state time history and it's +C52mUHWvMB0-02141-00621554-00621784 control time history interpolate those +C52mUHWvMB0-02142-00621785-00622027 in as my guess now I at least have an +C52mUHWvMB0-02143-00622028-00622324 initial condition that is a feasible you +C52mUHWvMB0-02144-00622325-00622516 know it's the state history matches the +C52mUHWvMB0-02145-00622517-00622735 controls at at my starting point and +C52mUHWvMB0-02146-00622736-00622885 then it can go from there that is +C52mUHWvMB0-02147-00622886-00623056 typically the way we address that with +C52mUHWvMB0-02148-00623057-00623479 Otis I don't like not saying that's the +C52mUHWvMB0-02149-00623480-00623611 right way to do with it but that's you +C52mUHWvMB0-02150-00623612-00623767 know been the way I've done in the past +C52mUHWvMB0-02151-00623768-00626428 so it's probably the way I try I think +C52mUHWvMB0-02152-00626429-00626734 for your cases the the explicit pseudo +C52mUHWvMB0-02153-00626735-00626935 spectral methods might be a better way +C52mUHWvMB0-02154-00626936-00627711 to go just let the solver converge it +C52mUHWvMB0-02155-00627712-00628122 thank you I'm I'm I'm working so a few +C52mUHWvMB0-02156-00628123-00628375 things to address that open em Dao has a +C52mUHWvMB0-02157-00628376-00628615 load case functionality where I can were +C52mUHWvMB0-02158-00628616-00628846 for an open M Dao problem you can take a +C52mUHWvMB0-02159-00628847-00629041 previous Alpha case record or you can +C52mUHWvMB0-02160-00629042-00629284 say take case 502 L this recorder or +C52mUHWvMB0-02161-00629285-00629470 negative one it just the solution and +C52mUHWvMB0-02162-00629471-00629704 load it into my problem and poof now +C52mUHWvMB0-02163-00629705-00629863 I've been instantiated my open M do +C52mUHWvMB0-02164-00629864-00630082 problem where I want it to be for Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-02165-00630083-00630322 we needed exactly the same behavior +C52mUHWvMB0-02166-00630323-00630505 except we're now potentially changing +C52mUHWvMB0-02167-00630506-00630772 the order of our transcription so Deimos +C52mUHWvMB0-02168-00630773-00631003 I'm just implemented a load case +C52mUHWvMB0-02169-00631004-00631258 function that takes a previous solution +C52mUHWvMB0-02170-00631259-00631497 and if it's on a different grid will use +C52mUHWvMB0-02171-00631498-00631531 the into +C52mUHWvMB0-02172-00631532-00631683 polite methods who interpolate it onto +C52mUHWvMB0-02173-00631684-00631860 our new space that seems to work pretty +C52mUHWvMB0-02174-00631861-00632155 well I would consider that along with +C52mUHWvMB0-02175-00632156-00632299 the grid refinement to still be like +C52mUHWvMB0-02176-00632300-00632497 we're still making sure that you know +C52mUHWvMB0-02177-00632498-00632605 we're dotting all of our eyes and +C52mUHWvMB0-02178-00632606-00632731 crossing all of our T's and making sure +C52mUHWvMB0-02179-00632732-00633089 that they're a to go there in the in the +C52mUHWvMB0-02180-00633090-00633322 repository now though on master so you +C52mUHWvMB0-02181-00633323-00633487 can play with those if you want so +C52mUHWvMB0-02182-00633488-00633703 that's as far as as far as like loading +C52mUHWvMB0-02183-00633704-00633853 a previous case to make things easier to +C52mUHWvMB0-02184-00633854-00633966 work +C52mUHWvMB0-02185-00633967-00634231 it's also possible this starting with a +C52mUHWvMB0-02186-00634232-00634422 lower order solution while it might not +C52mUHWvMB0-02187-00634423-00634639 give you the exact behavior that you +C52mUHWvMB0-02188-00634640-00634837 want now that we have grid refinement +C52mUHWvMB0-02189-00634838-00634954 you can start with a little weird +C52mUHWvMB0-02190-00634955-00635143 solution but possibly get an answer fast +C52mUHWvMB0-02191-00635144-00635316 and then have it just increase accuracy +C52mUHWvMB0-02192-00635317-00635622 and increase accuracy so you know start +C52mUHWvMB0-02193-00635623-00635733 with an easier problem with fewer +C52mUHWvMB0-02194-00635734-00635941 variables to solve and drive until you +C52mUHWvMB0-02195-00635942-00636130 get the accuracy that you need that can +C52mUHWvMB0-02196-00636131-00636385 help we also had a summer intern this +C52mUHWvMB0-02197-00636386-00636628 year implement an automated scaling +C52mUHWvMB0-02198-00636629-00637174 technique out of Europe by an author +C52mUHWvMB0-02199-00637175-00637506 named SOG Leon oh that basically looks +C52mUHWvMB0-02200-00637507-00637651 at your Jacobian matrix and says oh +C52mUHWvMB0-02201-00637652-00637833 here's your Jacobian matrix here's +C52mUHWvMB0-02202-00637834-00637978 here's the order of magnitudes of your +C52mUHWvMB0-02203-00637979-00638193 projected rows and columns I'm where +C52mUHWvMB0-02204-00638194-00638364 projected rows I'm going to take that +C52mUHWvMB0-02205-00638365-00638556 information and essentially use that to +C52mUHWvMB0-02206-00638557-00638752 scale my input variables which is one +C52mUHWvMB0-02207-00638753-00639154 possible way and so far and I'm happy to +C52mUHWvMB0-02208-00639155-00639355 hear any of your experience but every +C52mUHWvMB0-02209-00639356-00639493 automatic scaling technique that I've +C52mUHWvMB0-02210-00639494-00639726 ever seen is heuristic and works great +C52mUHWvMB0-02211-00639727-00639970 for some things and you know some of +C52mUHWvMB0-02212-00639971-00640129 them are 80% successful and some of them +C52mUHWvMB0-02213-00640130-00640408 are 10% successful so I've been looking +C52mUHWvMB0-02214-00640409-00640635 at ways of basically doing that and at +C52mUHWvMB0-02215-00640636-00640783 this point I haven't made the decision +C52mUHWvMB0-02216-00640784-00640951 whether that should be a generic open +C52mUHWvMB0-02217-00640952-00641160 indio capability because I don't think +C52mUHWvMB0-02218-00641161-00641329 it's completely specific to optimal +C52mUHWvMB0-02219-00641330-00641539 control or if it's like you know let's +C52mUHWvMB0-02220-00641540-00641653 just start by putting it in diagnosed +C52mUHWvMB0-02221-00641654-00641905 and we'll go from there so those things +C52mUHWvMB0-02222-00641906-00642133 together should I'm trying I'm to the +C52mUHWvMB0-02223-00642134-00642268 point now where I'm trying to you know +C52mUHWvMB0-02224-00642269-00642481 reduce the burden on people because it's +C52mUHWvMB0-02225-00642482-00642633 it's complicated enough without having +C52mUHWvMB0-02226-00642634-00643206 to worry about all that stuff +C52mUHWvMB0-02227-00643207-00643558 any other questions all right well thank +C52mUHWvMB0-02228-00643559-00644259 you all I appreciate it +C52mUHWvMB0-02229-00644260-00644503 Rob very kindly gave you guys 10 minutes +C52mUHWvMB0-02230-00644504-00644674 back I'll use just a few of those +C52mUHWvMB0-02231-00644675-00644887 minutes to thank you guys for coming I +C52mUHWvMB0-02232-00644888-00645076 really hope this was worth two days of +C52mUHWvMB0-02233-00645077-00645421 your time like I said early on the rotor +C52mUHWvMB0-02234-00645422-00645586 in the roadmap talk we're gonna try to +C52mUHWvMB0-02235-00645587-00645703 do this again next year +C52mUHWvMB0-02236-00645704-00645871 so if you have suggestions for how we +C52mUHWvMB0-02237-00645872-00646051 can make it more worthwhile I'm all ears +C52mUHWvMB0-02238-00646052-00646402 just shoot me an email I guess everybody +C52mUHWvMB0-02239-00646403-00646582 get to writing all those poems I haven't +C52mUHWvMB0-02240-00646583-00646732 looked at the repository so for all I +C52mUHWvMB0-02241-00646733-00646882 know you could have all written in 17 +C52mUHWvMB0-02242-00646883-00647269 already but I'll be keeping an eye on +C52mUHWvMB0-02243-00647270-00647542 that repo in the near future thank you +C52mUHWvMB0-02244-00647543-00647824 guys again for coming