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+wgStluYH5Oy-00001-00001496-00001704 you
+wjTbvMz5psg-00000-00000039-00000238 in an exclusive conversation with we on
+wjTbvMz5psg-00001-00000239-00000423 world as one asia foundation's founder
+wjTbvMz5psg-00002-00000424-00000526 sargu
+wjTbvMz5psg-00003-00000527-00000734 says that human beings must switch to a
+wjTbvMz5psg-00004-00000735-00000950 vegan and sensible diet to save the
+wjTbvMz5psg-00005-00000951-00001023 amazon
+wjTbvMz5psg-00006-00001024-00001374 listen in sadhguru the lungs of the
+wjTbvMz5psg-00007-00001375-00001558 earth the amazon forest have been
+wjTbvMz5psg-00008-00001559-00001718 burning and what is the lesson that
+wjTbvMz5psg-00009-00001719-00001855 india and the world at large
+wjTbvMz5psg-00010-00001855-00002207 can take from this see i wanted to look
+wjTbvMz5psg-00011-00002208-00002310 at
+wjTbvMz5psg-00012-00002311-00002534 the images of the burning images of
+wjTbvMz5psg-00013-00002535-00002718 amazon forest even in central africa
+wjTbvMz5psg-00014-00002719-00002926 it's burning unfortunately
+wjTbvMz5psg-00015-00002927-00003166 people are saying rain forest is burning
+wjTbvMz5psg-00016-00003167-00003390 rain furnace cannot burn there is too
+wjTbvMz5psg-00017-00003392-00003590 much humidity in rainforest for it to
+wjTbvMz5psg-00018-00003592-00003686 burn
+wjTbvMz5psg-00019-00003688-00003967 these are forests where all the timber
+wjTbvMz5psg-00020-00003968-00004095 has been removed
+wjTbvMz5psg-00021-00004096-00004383 only largely undergrowth and a few small
+wjTbvMz5psg-00022-00004384-00004638 trees are left that is burning
+wjTbvMz5psg-00023-00004639-00004951 and probably they want it to burn
+wjTbvMz5psg-00024-00004952-00005159 because they are trying to make it into
+wjTbvMz5psg-00025-00005160-00005286 cow pastures
+wjTbvMz5psg-00026-00005287-00005551 all the people who are importing beef
+wjTbvMz5psg-00027-00005552-00005663 from brazil
+wjTbvMz5psg-00028-00005664-00005918 must know if they want to grow grow that
+wjTbvMz5psg-00029-00005919-00006095 many beef cattle they need
+wjTbvMz5psg-00030-00006096-00006351 planes grasslands that's what they're
+wjTbvMz5psg-00031-00006352-00006439 trying to do
+wjTbvMz5psg-00032-00006440-00006606 which is what every other nation has
+wjTbvMz5psg-00033-00006608-00006775 done developed nations have done this in
+wjTbvMz5psg-00034-00006776-00006855 the past
+wjTbvMz5psg-00035-00006856-00007055 now we are trying to tell them one
+wjTbvMz5psg-00036-00007056-00007255 important thing if you want to save
+wjTbvMz5psg-00037-00007256-00007439 ecology on this planet if you want to
+wjTbvMz5psg-00038-00007440-00007591 put forest back
+wjTbvMz5psg-00039-00007592-00007863 one important thing is human beings have
+wjTbvMz5psg-00040-00007864-00008023 to eat sensibly
+wjTbvMz5psg-00041-00008023-00008278 we are not eating sensibly our way of
+wjTbvMz5psg-00042-00008279-00008391 food consumption
+wjTbvMz5psg-00043-00008392-00008695 is ecologically too expensive so
+wjTbvMz5psg-00044-00008696-00008903 it is for beef cultivation it is for
+wjTbvMz5psg-00045-00008904-00009078 beef growth that they are clearing the
+wjTbvMz5psg-00046-00009079-00009199 forest
+wjTbvMz5psg-00047-00009200-00009414 uh instead of just telling them don't
+wjTbvMz5psg-00048-00009415-00009542 clear the forest
+wjTbvMz5psg-00049-00009543-00009710 you must see what is the source and
+wjTbvMz5psg-00050-00009711-00009910 augment that nation where its economy
+wjTbvMz5psg-00051-00009911-00010039 has its problems
+wjTbvMz5psg-00052-00010040-00010367 so instead of people who have removed
+wjTbvMz5psg-00053-00010368-00010527 everything in their nations
+wjTbvMz5psg-00054-00010528-00010719 and telling them to provide oxygen for
+wjTbvMz5psg-00055-00010720-00010871 the rest of the world is not a good way
+wjTbvMz5psg-00056-00010872-00010951 to do it
+wjTbvMz5psg-00057-00010952-00011199 everybody must put back if not forest at
+wjTbvMz5psg-00058-00011200-00011584 least agroforestry back
+wkfr7cu_Xgo-00000-00001067-00002057 [Music]
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+wkfr7cu_Xgo-00023-00031341-00031927 [Music]
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+wkfr7cu_Xgo-00064-00069660-00069976 [Music]
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00000-00000008-00000271 the walt disney company commonly known
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00001-00000272-00000559 as walt disney or simply disney common
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00002-00000560-00000847 metanum mouse also mouse house is an
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00003-00000848-00001158 american diversified multinational mass
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00004-00001159-00001383 media and entertainment conglomerate
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00005-00001384-00001639 headquartered at the walt disney studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00006-00001639-00001902 in burbank california
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00007-00001903-00002142 it is the world's largest independent
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00008-00002143-00002415 media conglomerate in terms of revenue
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00009-00002416-00002734 ahead of nbc universal and warner media
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00010-00002735-00002975 which are owned by telecommunications
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00011-00002976-00003335 giants comcast and at t respectively the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00012-00003336-00003751 company was founded on october 16 1923
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00013-00003752-00004038 by brothers walt and roy o disney as the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00014-00004039-00004351 disney brothers cartoon studio it also
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00015-00004352-00004615 operated under the names the walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00016-00004616-00004854 studio and walt disney productions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00017-00004855-00005086 before officially changing its name to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00018-00005087-00005495 the walt disney company in 1986.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00019-00005496-00005727 the company established itself as a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00020-00005728-00005934 leader in the american animation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00021-00005935-00006159 industry before diversifying into
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00022-00006160-00006446 live-action film production television
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00023-00006447-00006655 and theme parks
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00024-00006656-00006991 since the 1980s disney has created and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00025-00006992-00007239 acquired corporate divisions in order to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00026-00007240-00007470 market more mature content than is
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00027-00007472-00007746 typically associated with its flagship
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00028-00007747-00007998 family-oriented brands
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00029-00008000-00008271 the company is known for its film studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00030-00008272-00008542 the walt disney studios which is one of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00031-00008543-00008807 the largest and best-known studios in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00032-00008808-00009014 american cinema
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00033-00009015-00009271 disney's other main divisions are walt
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00034-00009272-00009574 disney parks experiences and consumer
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00035-00009575-00009871 products disney media networks and walt
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00036-00009872-00010087 disney direct to consumer and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00037-00010088-00010263 international
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00038-00010264-00010583 disney also owns and operates the abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00039-00010584-00010831 broadcast network cable television
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00040-00010832-00011214 networks such as disney channel espn a e
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00041-00011215-00011471 networks and freeform publishing
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00042-00011472-00011710 merchandising music and theater
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00043-00011711-00011959 divisions and walt disney parks and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00044-00011960-00012278 resorts a group of 14 theme parks around
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00045-00012279-00012431 the world
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00046-00012432-00012670 the company has been a component of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00047-00012671-00013175 dow jones industrial average since 1991.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00048-00013176-00013527 mickey mouse was created in 1928 and as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00049-00013528-00013751 the signature mascot and emblem for
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00050-00013752-00013958 disney and one of the world's most
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00051-00013959-00014299 recognizable characters on december 14
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00052-00014300-00014615 2017 disney announced an agreement to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00053-00014616-00015158 acquire 21st century fox for 52 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00054-00015159-00015438 the bid was later increased to 71
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00055-00015440-00015543 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00056-00015544-00015935 on june 20 2018 in the wake of comcast's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00057-00015936-00016127 65 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00058-00016128-00016815 bid for fox
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00059-00016816-00017767 topic corporate history
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00060-00017768-00018199 topic 1923-1928
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00061-00018200-00018703 silent film era
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00062-00018704-00018803 in early
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00063-00018804-00019191 1923 kansas city missouri animator walt
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00064-00019192-00019455 disney created a short film entitled
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00065-00019456-00019727 alice's wonderland which featured child
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00066-00019728-00019983 actress virginia davis interacting with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00067-00019984-00020222 animated characters
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00068-00020223-00020543 after the bankruptcy in 1923 of his
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00069-00020544-00020886 previous firm lafo graham studio disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00070-00020887-00021150 moved to hollywood to join his brother
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00071-00021151-00021367 roy o disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00072-00021368-00021671 film distributor margaret j winkler of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00073-00021672-00021791 mj
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00074-00021792-00022047 winkler productions contacted disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00075-00022048-00022311 with plans to distribute a whole series
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00076-00022312-00022607 of alice comedies purchased for 1
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00077-00022608-00022727 500
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00078-00022728-00022975 per real with disney as a production
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00079-00022976-00023127 partner
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00080-00023128-00023391 walt and roy disney formed disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00081-00023392-00023767 brothers cartoon studio that same year
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00082-00023768-00024127 more animated films followed after alice
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00083-00024128-00024267 in january
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00084-00024268-00024558 1926 with the completion of the disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00085-00024559-00024847 studio on hyperion street the disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00086-00024848-00025086 brothers studio's name was changed to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00087-00025087-00025367 the walt disney studio after the demise
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00088-00025368-00025614 of the alice comedies disney developed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00089-00025616-00025887 an all-cartoon series starring his first
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00090-00025888-00026134 original character oswald the lucky
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00091-00026135-00026399 rabbit which was distributed by winkler
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00092-00026400-00026711 pictures through universal pictures
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00093-00026712-00027007 the distributor owned oswald so disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00094-00027008-00027311 only made a few hundred dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00095-00027312-00027655 disney completed 26 oswald shorts before
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00096-00027656-00028039 losing the contract in february 1928 due
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00097-00028039-00028279 to a legal loophole when winkler's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00098-00028280-00028518 husband charles mintz took over their
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00099-00028519-00028751 distribution company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00100-00028752-00028983 after failing to take over the disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00101-00028983-00029295 studio mintz hired away four of disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00102-00029295-00029558 primary animators the exception being
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00103-00029560-00029831 ube iworks to start his own animation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00104-00029832-00030583 studio snappy comedies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00105-00030583-00031023 topic 1928-1934
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00106-00031024-00031679 mickey mouse and silly symphonies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00107-00031680-00031999 in 1928 to recover from the loss of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00108-00032000-00032279 oswald the lucky rabbit disney came up
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00109-00032280-00032527 with the idea of a mouse character named
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00110-00032527-00032751 mortimer while on a train headed to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00111-00032752-00033007 california drawing up a few simple
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00112-00033008-00033159 drawings
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00113-00033160-00033446 the mouse was later renamed mickey mouse
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00114-00033447-00033735 disney's wife lilian disliked the sound
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00115-00033736-00033990 of mortimer mouse and starred in several
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00116-00033991-00034262 disney produced films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00117-00034263-00034543 youbi works refined disney's initial
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00118-00034544-00034751 design of mickey mouse
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00119-00034752-00035015 disney's first sound film steamboat
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00120-00035016-00035287 willy a cartoon starring mickey was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00121-00035288-00035695 released on november 18 1928 through pat
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00122-00035696-00035983 powers distribution company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00123-00035984-00036199 it was the first mickey mouse sound
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00124-00036200-00036430 cartoon released but the third to be
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00125-00036431-00036679 created behind plane crazy and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00126-00036680-00036895 gallop in gaucho
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00127-00036896-00037151 steamboat willie was an immediate smash
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00128-00037152-00037367 hit and its initial success was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00129-00037368-00037607 attributed not just to mickey's appeal
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00130-00037608-00037830 as a character but to the fact that it
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00131-00037831-00038046 was the first cartoon to feature
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00132-00038047-00038279 synchronized sound
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00133-00038280-00038599 disney used pat power cinephone system
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00134-00038600-00038902 created by powers using lead deforest's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00135-00038903-00039127 phonofilm system
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00136-00039128-00039423 steamboat willy premiered at bs moss's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00137-00039424-00039702 colony theater in new york city now the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00138-00039703-00039911 broadway theater
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00139-00039912-00040159 disney's plane crazy and the gallopin
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00140-00040160-00040367 gaucho were then retrofitted with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00141-00040368-00040623 synchronized soundtracks and re-released
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00142-00040624-00040887 successfully in 1929
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00143-00040888-00041135 disney continued to produce cartoons
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00144-00041136-00041374 with mickey mouse and other characters
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00145-00041375-00041630 and began the silly symphony series with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00146-00041631-00041839 columbia pictures signing on as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00147-00041840-00042302 symphony's distributor in august 1929
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00148-00042303-00042435 in september
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00149-00042436-00042751 1929 theater manager harry wooden
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00150-00042752-00042983 requested permission to start a mickey
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00151-00042984-00043279 mouse club which walt approved
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00152-00043280-00043558 in november test comics strips were sent
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00153-00043559-00043767 to king features who requested
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00154-00043768-00043967 additional samples to show to the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00155-00043968-00044295 publisher william randolph hearst
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00156-00044296-00044630 on december 16 the walt disney studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00157-00044631-00044846 partnership was reorganized as a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00158-00044847-00045111 corporation with the name of walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00159-00045112-00045367 productions limited with a merchandising
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00160-00045368-00045662 division walt disney enterprises and two
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00161-00045663-00045943 subsidiaries disney film recording
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00162-00045944-00046190 company limited and lilled realty an
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00163-00046191-00046423 investment company for real estate
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00164-00046424-00046590 holdings
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00165-00046591-00046862 walt and his wife held 60
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00166-00046863-00047199 6000 shares and roy owned 40
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00167-00047200-00047471 of wd productions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00168-00047472-00047774 on december 30 king features signed its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00169-00047775-00048030 first newspaper new york mirror to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00170-00048031-00048255 publish the mickey mouse comic strip
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00171-00048256-00048615 with walt's permission in 1932 disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00172-00048616-00048823 signed an exclusive contract with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00173-00048824-00049143 technicolor through the end of 1935
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00174-00049144-00049415 to produce cartoons in color beginning
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00175-00049416-00049627 with flowers and trees
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00176-00049628-00049823 1932
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00177-00049824-00050079 disney released cartoons through power
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00178-00050080-00050371 celebrity pictures
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00179-00050372-00050779 1928-1930 columbia pictures
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00180-00050780-00051430 1930-1932 and united artists 1932-1937
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00181-00051432-00051654 the popularity of the mickey mouse
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00182-00051655-00051911 series allowed disney to plan for his
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00183-00051912-00052207 first feature-length animation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00184-00052208-00052463 the feature film walt before mickey
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00185-00052464-00052750 based on the book by diane disney miller
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00186-00052751-00052982 featured these moments in the studio's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00187-00052983-00053679 history
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00188-00053679-00054038 1934-1945
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00189-00054039-00054287 snow white and the seven dwarfs and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00190-00054288-00054815 world war ii
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00191-00054816-00055038 deciding to push the boundaries of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00192-00055039-00055319 animation even further disney began
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00193-00055320-00055550 production of his first feature-length
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00194-00055551-00055926 animated film in 1934
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00195-00055927-00056166 taking three years to complete snow
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00196-00056167-00056399 white and the seven dwarfs premiered in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00197-00056400-00056499 december
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00198-00056500-00056799 1937 and by 1939
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00199-00056800-00057038 became highest grossing film of that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00200-00057039-00057166 time
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00201-00057167-00057430 snow white was released through rko
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00202-00057432-00057654 radio pictures which had assumed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00203-00057655-00057979 distribution of disney's product in july
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00204-00057979-00058319 1937 after united artists attempted to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00205-00058320-00058566 attain future television rights to the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00206-00058567-00058759 disney shorts
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00207-00058760-00058991 using the prophets from snow white
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00208-00058991-00059223 disney financed the construction of a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00209-00059224-00059687 new 51-acre 210 000 square meters studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00210-00059688-00060023 complex in burbank california
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00211-00060024-00060311 the new walt disney studios in which the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00212-00060312-00060575 company is headquartered to this day was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00213-00060576-00060823 completed and open for business by the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00214-00060824-00061103 end of 1939.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00215-00061104-00061375 the following year on april 2nd walt
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00216-00061376-00061582 disney productions had its initial
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00217-00061583-00061830 public offering the studio continued
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00218-00061832-00062087 releasing animated shorts and features
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00219-00062088-00062550 such as pinocchio 1940 fantasia 1940
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00220-00062551-00062775 dumbo 1941
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00221-00062776-00063094 and bambi 1942
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00222-00063095-00063423 after world war ii began box office
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00223-00063424-00063599 profits decline
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00224-00063600-00063838 when the united states entered the war
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00225-00063839-00064119 after the attack on pearl harbor many of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00226-00064120-00064375 disney's animators were drafted into the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00227-00064376-00064559 armed forces
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00228-00064560-00064799 the u.s and canadian governments
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00229-00064800-00065015 commissioned the studio to produce
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00230-00065016-00065311 training and propaganda films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00231-00065312-00065511 by 1942
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00232-00065512-00065926 90 of its 550 employees were working on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00233-00065927-00066159 war-related films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00234-00066160-00066375 films such as the feature victory
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00235-00066376-00066535 through air power and the short
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00236-00066536-00066747 education for death both
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00237-00066748-00067031 1943 were meant to increase public
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00238-00067032-00067287 support for the war effort
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00239-00067288-00067535 even the studio's characters joined the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00240-00067536-00067759 effort as donald duck appeared in a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00241-00067760-00068006 number of comical propaganda shorts
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00242-00068007-00068271 including the academy award winning der
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00243-00068272-00069167 fuhrer's face 1943.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00244-00069168-00069526 1946-1954
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00245-00069527-00070079 post-war and television
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00246-00070080-00070335 with limited staff and little operating
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00247-00070336-00070559 capital during and after the war
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00248-00070560-00070799 disney's feature films during much of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00249-00070800-00071199 the 1940s were package films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00250-00071200-00071423 are collections of shorts such as the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00251-00071424-00071594 three caballeros
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00252-00071595-00071859 1944 and melody time
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00253-00071860-00072191 1948 which performed poorly at the box
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00254-00072192-00072335 office
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00255-00072336-00072599 at the same time the studio began
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00256-00072600-00072823 producing live-action films and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00257-00072824-00073031 documentaries
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00258-00073032-00073406 song of the south 1946 and so dear to my
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00259-00073407-00073759 heart 1948 featured animated segments
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00260-00073760-00073999 while the true life adventures series
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00261-00074000-00074282 which included such films as seal island
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00262-00074283-00074611 1948 and the vanishing prairie
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00263-00074612-00074950 1954 were also popular
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00264-00074951-00075182 eight of the films in the series won
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00265-00075183-00075462 academy awards the release of cinderella
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00266-00075463-00075750 in 1950 proved that feature-length
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00267-00075751-00075982 animation could still succeed in the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00268-00075983-00076159 marketplace
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00269-00076160-00076406 other releases of the period included
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00270-00076407-00076815 alice in wonderland 1951 and peter pan
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00271-00076816-00076975 1953
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00272-00076976-00077238 both in production before the war began
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00273-00077239-00077479 and disney's first all-live-action
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00274-00077480-00077855 feature treasure island 1950
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00275-00077856-00078143 other early all-live-action disney films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00276-00078144-00078399 included the story of robin hood and his
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00277-00078400-00078638 merry men 1952
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00278-00078639-00078935 the sword and the rose 1953
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00279-00078936-00079438 and 20 000 leagues under the sea 1954.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00280-00079439-00079694 disney ended its distribution contract
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00281-00079695-00079882 with rko in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00282-00079883-00080215 1953. forming its own distribution arm
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00283-00080216-00080487 buena vista distribution in december
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00284-00080488-00080799 1950 walt disney productions and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00285-00080800-00081079 coca-cola company teamed up for disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00286-00081080-00081382 first venture into television the nbc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00287-00081383-00081631 television network special an hour in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00288-00081632-00081799 wonderland
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00289-00081800-00081931 in october
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00290-00081932-00082311 1954 the abc network launched disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00291-00082312-00082775 first regular television series
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00292-00082776-00083159 topic 1955-1965
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00293-00083160-00083582 disneyland in 1954 walt disney used his
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00294-00083583-00083838 disneyland series to unveil what would
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00295-00083839-00084135 become disneyland an idea conceived out
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00296-00084136-00084391 of a desire for a place where parents
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00297-00084392-00084615 and children could both have fun at the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00298-00084616-00084791 same time
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00299-00084792-00084979 on july 18
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00300-00084980-00085326 1955 walt disney opened disneyland to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00301-00085327-00085535 the general public
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00302-00085536-00085855 on july 17 1955
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00303-00085856-00086087 disneyland was previewed with a live
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00304-00086088-00086367 television broadcast hosted by robert
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00305-00086368-00086735 cummings art linklater and ronald reagan
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00306-00086736-00087038 after a shaky start disneyland continued
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00307-00087039-00087311 to grow and attract visitors from across
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00308-00087312-00087591 the country and around the world
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00309-00087592-00087911 a major expansion in 1959
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00310-00087912-00088159 included the addition of america's first
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00311-00088160-00088359 monorail system
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00312-00088360-00088443 for the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00313-00088444-00088775 1964 new york world's fair disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00314-00088776-00089015 prepared four separate attractions for
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00315-00089016-00089247 various sponsors each of which would
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00316-00089248-00089535 find its way to disneyland in one form
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00317-00089536-00089703 or another
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00318-00089704-00089991 during this time walt disney was also
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00319-00089992-00090238 secretly scouting out new sites for a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00320-00090239-00090503 second disney theme park
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00321-00090504-00090635 in november
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00322-00090636-00090967 1965 disney world was announced with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00323-00090968-00091279 plans for theme parks hotels and even a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00324-00091280-00091567 model city on thousands of acres of land
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00325-00091568-00091823 purchased outside of orlando florida
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00326-00091824-00092103 disney continued to focus its talents on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00327-00092104-00092462 television throughout the 1950s
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00328-00092463-00092638 its weekday afternoon
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00329-00092639-00092887 children's television program the mickey
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00330-00092888-00093143 mouse club featuring its roster of young
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00331-00093144-00093511 mouseketeers premiered in 1955 to great
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00332-00093512-00093743 success as did the davy crockett
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00333-00093744-00093999 mini-series starring fess parker and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00334-00094000-00094279 broadcast on the disneyland anthology
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00335-00094280-00094415 show
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00336-00094416-00094679 two years later the zorro series would
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00337-00094680-00094943 prove just as popular running for two
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00338-00094944-00095206 seasons on abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00339-00095207-00095455 despite such success walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00340-00095456-00095655 productions invested little into
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00341-00095656-00095967 television ventures in the 1960s with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00342-00095968-00096150 the exception of the long-running
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00343-00096151-00096406 anthology series later known as the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00344-00096407-00096687 wonderful world of disney disney's film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00345-00096688-00096974 studios stayed busy as well averaging
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00346-00096975-00097238 five or six releases per year during
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00347-00097239-00097399 this period
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00348-00097400-00097606 while the production of shorts slowed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00349-00097607-00098015 significantly during the 1950s and 1960s
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00350-00098016-00098279 the studio released a number of popular
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00351-00098280-00098503 animated features like lady and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00352-00098504-00098718 1955
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00353-00098719-00098874 sleeping beauty
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00354-00098875-00099274 1959 and 101 dalmatians
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00355-00099275-00099606 1961 which introduced a new zerography
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00356-00099607-00099847 process to transfer the drawings to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00357-00099848-00100126 animation cels
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00358-00100127-00100343 disney's live action releases were
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00359-00100344-00100574 spread across a number of genres
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00360-00100575-00100815 including historical fiction johnny
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00361-00100816-00100931 tremine
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00362-00100932-00101271 1957 adaptations of children's books
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00363-00101272-00101647 pollyanna 1960 and modern day comedies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00364-00101648-00101826 the shaggy dog
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00365-00101827-00102015 1959
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00366-00102016-00102282 disney's most successful film of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00367-00102283-00102647 1960s was a live-action animated musical
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00368-00102648-00102918 adaptation of mary poppins which was one
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00369-00102919-00103182 of the all-time highest grossing movies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00370-00103183-00103430 and received five academy awards
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00371-00103431-00103710 including best actress for julie andrews
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00372-00103711-00103982 and best song for robert b sherman and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00373-00103983-00104375 richard m sherman for chim chim share e
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00374-00104376-00104639 the theme park design and architectural
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00375-00104640-00104902 group became so integral to the disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00376-00104903-00105151 studios operations that the studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00377-00105152-00105378 bought it on february 5th
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00378-00105379-00105695 1965 along with the wed enterprise's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00379-00105696-00106286 name
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00380-00106288-00106434 topic
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00381-00106435-00106766 1966 tonight
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00382-00106767-00107063 deaths of walt and roy disney an opening
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00383-00107064-00107639 of walt disney world
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00384-00107640-00107958 on december 15 1966
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00385-00107959-00108190 walt disney died of complications
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00386-00108191-00108471 relating to lung cancer and roy disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00387-00108472-00108799 took over as chairman ceo and president
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00388-00108800-00108975 of the company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00389-00108976-00109223 one of his first acts was to rename
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00390-00109224-00109615 disney world as walt disney world
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00391-00109616-00109919 in honor of his brother and his vision
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00392-00109920-00109986 in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00393-00109988-00110351 1967 the last two films walt actively
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00394-00110352-00110599 supervised were released the animated
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00395-00110600-00110839 feature the jungle book and the musical
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00396-00110840-00111086 the happiest millionaire
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00397-00111088-00111351 the studio released a number of comedies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00398-00111352-00111763 in the late 1960s including the love bug
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00399-00111764-00112047 1969's highest grossing film and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00400-00112048-00112407 computer wore tennis shoes 1969
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00401-00112408-00112599 which starred another young disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00402-00112600-00112854 discovery kurt russell
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00403-00112855-00113158 the 1970s opened with the release of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00404-00113159-00113471 disney's first post-walt
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00405-00113472-00113783 animated feature the aristocats followed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00406-00113783-00114107 by a return to fantasy musicals in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00407-00114108-00114471 1971's bed knobs and broomsticks
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00408-00114472-00114663 blackbeard's ghost was another
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00409-00114664-00114975 successful film during this period on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00410-00114976-00115254 october 1 1971
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00411-00115255-00115502 walt disney world opened to the public
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00412-00115503-00115783 with roy disney dedicating the facility
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00413-00115783-00116039 in person later that month
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00414-00116040-00116351 on december 20 1971
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00415-00116352-00116647 roy disney died of a stroke
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00416-00116648-00116910 he left the company under control of don
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00417-00116911-00117207 tatum card walker and walt's son in la
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00418-00117208-00118134 ron miller each trained by walt and roy
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00419-00118135-00118486 1972-1984
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00420-00118488-00119158 theatrical malaise and new leadership
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00421-00119159-00119399 while walt disney productions continued
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00422-00119400-00119615 releasing family-friendly films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00423-00119616-00119927 throughout the 1970s such as escape to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00424-00119928-00120190 witch mountain 1975
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00425-00120191-00120502 and freaky friday 1976
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00426-00120503-00120743 the films did not fare as well at the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00427-00120744-00121063 box office as earlier material
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00428-00121064-00121383 however the animation studio saw success
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00429-00121383-00121547 with robin hood
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00430-00121548-00121934 1973 the rescuers 1977
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00431-00121935-00122310 and the fox and the hound 1981
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00432-00122311-00122566 as head of the studio miller attempted
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00433-00122567-00122814 to make films to drive the profitable
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00434-00122815-00123078 teenage market who generally passed on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00435-00123079-00123327 seeing disney films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00436-00123328-00123654 inspired by the popularity of star wars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00437-00123655-00123871 disney produced the science fiction
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00438-00123872-00124107 adventure the black hole in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00439-00124108-00124439 1979 that cost 20 million dollars to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00440-00124440-00124823 make but was lost in star wars wake the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00441-00124824-00125110 black hole was the first disney film to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00442-00125111-00125502 carry a pg rating in the united states
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00443-00125503-00125751 disney dabbled in the horror genre with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00444-00125752-00125983 the watcher in the woods and financed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00445-00125983-00126263 the boldly innovative tron both films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00446-00126264-00126527 were released to minimal success disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00447-00126528-00126807 also hired outside producers for film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00448-00126808-00127023 projects which had never been done
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00449-00127024-00127334 before in the studio's history
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00450-00127335-00127419 in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00451-00127420-00127743 1979 disney entered a joint venture with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00452-00127744-00127966 paramount pictures on the production of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00453-00127967-00128295 the 1980 film adaptation of popeye and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00454-00128296-00128678 dragonslayer 1981 the first time disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00455-00128679-00128883 collaborated with another
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00456-00128883-00129190 studio paramount distributed disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00457-00129191-00129454 films in canada at the time and it was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00458-00129455-00129710 hoped that disney's marketing prestige
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00459-00129711-00129999 would help sell the two films
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00460-00130000-00130399 finally in 1982 the disney family sold
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00461-00130400-00130599 the naming rights and rail-based
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00462-00130600-00130863 attractions to the disney film studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00463-00130864-00131063 for 818
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00464-00131064-00131223 461
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00465-00131224-00131483 shares of disney stock then worth
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00466-00131484-00131695 42.6 million
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00467-00131696-00131975 none of which went to rett law
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00468-00131976-00132247 also roy e disney objected to the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00469-00132248-00132495 overvalued purchase price of the naming
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00470-00132496-00132719 right and voted against the purchase as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00471-00132720-00133071 a disney board director the 1983 release
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00472-00133072-00133302 of mickey's christmas carol began a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00473-00133303-00133551 string of successful movies starting
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00474-00133552-00133823 with never cry wolf and the ray bradbury
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00475-00133824-00134063 adaptation something wicked this way
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00476-00134064-00134199 comes
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00477-00134200-00134423 the walt disney productions film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00478-00134424-00134731 division was incorporated on april 1
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00479-00134732-00135119 1983 as walt disney pictures
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00480-00135120-00135575 in 1984 disney ceo ron miller created
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00481-00135576-00135839 touchstone films as a brand for disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00482-00135840-00136207 to release more major motion pictures
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00483-00136208-00136414 touchstone's first release was the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00484-00136415-00136783 comedy splash 1984 which was a box
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00485-00136784-00136975 office success
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00486-00136976-00137183 with the wonderful world of disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00487-00137184-00137487 remaining a prime staple disney returned
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00488-00137488-00137766 to television in the 1970s with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00489-00137767-00137990 syndicated programming such as the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00490-00137991-00138278 anthology series the mouse factory and a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00491-00138279-00138623 brief revival of the mickey mouse club
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00492-00138624-00138999 in 1980 disney launched walt disney home
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00493-00139000-00139239 video to take advantage of the newly
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00494-00139240-00139535 emerging video cassette market
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00495-00139536-00139927 on april 18 1983 the disney channel
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00496-00139928-00140166 debuted as a subscription-level channel
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00497-00140167-00140447 on cable systems nationwide featuring
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00498-00140448-00140735 its large library of classic films and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00499-00140736-00140983 tv series along with original
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00500-00140984-00141183 programming and family-friendly
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00501-00141184-00141454 third-party offerings
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00502-00141455-00141719 walt disney world received much of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00503-00141720-00142023 company's attention through the 1970s
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00504-00142024-00142295 and into the 1980s
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00505-00142296-00142663 in 1978 disney executives announced
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00506-00142664-00142919 plans for the second walt disney world
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00507-00142920-00143207 theme park epcot center which would open
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00508-00143208-00143519 in october 1982
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00509-00143520-00143783 inspired by walt disney's dream of a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00510-00143784-00144095 futuristic model city epcot center was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00511-00144096-00144454 built as a permanent world's fair
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00512-00144455-00144678 complete with exhibits sponsored by
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00513-00144679-00144959 major american corporations as well as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00514-00144960-00145214 pavilions based on the cultures of other
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00515-00145215-00145375 nations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00516-00145376-00145647 in japan the oriental land company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00517-00145648-00145887 partnered with walt disney productions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00518-00145888-00146119 to build the first disney theme park
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00519-00146120-00146375 outside of the united states tokyo
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00520-00146376-00146831 disneyland which opened in april 1983.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00521-00146832-00147039 despite the success of the disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00522-00147040-00147319 channel and its new theme park creations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00523-00147320-00147590 walt disney productions was financially
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00524-00147591-00147751 vulnerable
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00525-00147752-00148023 its film library was valuable but
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00526-00148024-00148271 offered few current successes and its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00527-00148272-00148502 leadership team was unable to keep up
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00528-00148503-00148743 with other studios particularly the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00529-00148744-00148983 works of don bluth who defected from
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00530-00148984-00149311 disney in 1979.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00531-00149312-00149599 by the early 1980s the parks were
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00532-00149600-00150063 generating 70 of disney's income in 1984
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00533-00150064-00150326 financier saul steinberg's reliance
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00534-00150327-00150535 group holdings launched a hostile
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00535-00150536-00150823 takeover bid for walt disney productions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00536-00150824-00151039 with the intent of selling off some of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00537-00151040-00151254 its operations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00538-00151255-00151614 disney bought out reliance's 11.1
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00539-00151615-00151847 stake in the company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00540-00151848-00152143 however another shareholder filed suit
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00541-00152144-00152399 claiming the deal devaluated disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00542-00152400-00152614 stock and for disney management to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00543-00152615-00152854 retain their positions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00544-00152855-00153131 the shareholder lawsuit was settled in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00545-00153132-00153519 1989 for a total of 45 million dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00546-00153520-00154319 from disney and reliance
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00547-00154320-00154639 1984-2005
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00548-00154640-00154887 michael eisner era and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00549-00154888-00155078 save disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00550-00155079-00155526 campaign
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00551-00155527-00155766 with the sid bass family purchase of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00552-00155767-00155959 18.7
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00553-00155960-00156214 of disney bass and the board brought in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00554-00156215-00156519 michael eisner from paramount as ceo and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00555-00156520-00156759 frank wells from warner bros as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00556-00156760-00156895 president
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00557-00156896-00157175 eisner emphasized touchstone with down
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00558-00157176-00157551 and out in beverly hills 1985 to start
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00559-00157552-00157783 leading to increased output with good
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00560-00157784-00158283 morning vietnam 1987 dead poet society
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00561-00158284-00158695 1989. pretty woman 1990 and additional
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00562-00158696-00158831 hits
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00563-00158832-00159095 eisner used expanding cable and home
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00564-00159096-00159407 video markets to sign deals using disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00565-00159408-00159639 shows and films with a long-term deal
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00566-00159640-00159863 with showtime networks for disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00567-00159864-00160183 touchstone releases through 1996 and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00568-00160184-00160431 entering television with syndication and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00569-00160432-00160759 distribution for tv series as the golden
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00570-00160760-00161023 girls and home improvement
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00571-00161024-00161287 disney began limited releases of its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00572-00161288-00161583 previous films on videotapes in the late
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00573-00161584-00161783 1980s
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00574-00161784-00162102 aizner's disney purchased khj an
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00575-00162103-00162495 independent los angeles tv station
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00576-00162496-00162751 organized in 1985
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00577-00162752-00163095 silver screen partners 2 lp financed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00578-00163096-00163439 films for disney with 193 million
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00579-00163440-00163590 dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00580-00163591-00164031 in january 1987 silver screen 3 began
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00581-00164032-00164319 financing movies for disney with 300
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00582-00164320-00164559 million dollars raised the largest
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00583-00164560-00164799 amount raised for a film financing
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00584-00164800-00165071 limited partnership by ef
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00585-00165072-00165438 hutton silver screen iv was also set up
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00586-00165439-00165702 to finance disney's studios beginning
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00587-00165703-00166038 with who framed roger rabbit in 1988
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00588-00166039-00166302 disney's flagship animation studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00589-00166303-00166511 enjoyed a series of commercial and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00590-00166512-00166759 critical successes with such films as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00591-00166760-00167102 the little mermaid 1989 beauty and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00592-00167103-00167402 beast 1991 aladdin
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00593-00167403-00167699 1992 and the lion king
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00594-00167700-00167887 1994.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00595-00167888-00168135 in addition the company successfully
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00596-00168136-00168319 entered the field of television
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00597-00168320-00168551 animation with a number of lavishly
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00598-00168552-00168775 budgeted and acclaimed series such as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00599-00168776-00169071 adventures of the gummy bears ducktales
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00600-00169072-00169375 chip in dale rescue rangers darkwing
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00601-00169376-00169695 duck tailspin and gargoyles
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00602-00169696-00169951 disney moved to first place in box
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00603-00169952-00170231 office receipts by 1988 and had
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00604-00170232-00170478 increased revenues by 20
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00605-00170479-00170831 every year in 1989 disney signed an
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00606-00170832-00171054 agreement in principle to acquire the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00607-00171055-00171302 jim henson company from its founder
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00608-00171303-00171590 muppet creator jim henson
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+wlEt7iMqP6u-00610-00171839-00172095 library and muppet characters excluding
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00611-00172096-00172359 the muppets created for sesame street as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00612-00172360-00172631 well as jim henson's personal creative
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00613-00172632-00172790 services
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00614-00172791-00173175 however henson died suddenly in may 1990
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00615-00173176-00173423 before the deal was completed resulting
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00616-00173424-00173666 in the two companies terminating merger
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00617-00173667-00174007 negotiations the following december
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00618-00174008-00174311 named the disney decade
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00619-00174312-00174559 by the company the executive talent
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00620-00174560-00174775 attempted to move the company to new
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00621-00174776-00175095 heights in the 1990s with huge changes
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00622-00175096-00175311 and accomplishments
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00623-00175312-00175654 in september 1990 disney arranged for
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00624-00175655-00175975 financing up to 200 million dollars by a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00625-00175976-00176263 unit of namura securities for interscope
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00626-00176264-00176519 films made for disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00627-00176520-00176854 on october 23 disney formed touchwood
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00628-00176855-00177095 pacific partners i which would supplant
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00629-00177096-00177343 the silver screen partnership series as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00630-00177344-00177599 their movie studio's primary source of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00631-00177600-00177999 funding in 1991 hotels home video
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00632-00178000-00178263 distribution and disney merchandising
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00633-00178264-00178631 became 28 of total company revenues with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00634-00178632-00178999 international revenues contributed 22 of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00635-00179000-00179159 revenues
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00636-00179160-00179414 the company committed its studios in the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00637-00179415-00179799 first quarter of 1991 to produce 25
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00638-00179800-00180119 films in 1992.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00639-00180120-00180614 however 1991 saw net income drop by 23
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00640-00180615-00180847 and had no growth for the year but saw
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00641-00180848-00181063 the release of beauty and the beast
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00642-00181064-00181319 winner of two academy awards and top
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00643-00181320-00181607 grossing film in the genre
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00644-00181608-00181863 disney next moved into publishing with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00645-00181864-00182119 hyperion books and adult music with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00646-00182120-00182351 hollywood records while walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00647-00182352-00182607 imagineering was laying off 400
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00648-00182608-00182790 employees
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00649-00182791-00183007 disney also broadened its adult
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00650-00183008-00183254 offerings in film when then disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00651-00183255-00183495 studio chairman jeffrey katzenberg
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00652-00183496-00183943 acquired miramax films in 1993.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00653-00183944-00184247 that same year disney created the nhl
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00654-00184248-00184519 team the mighty ducks of anaheim named
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00655-00184520-00184975 after the 1992 hit film of the same name
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00656-00184976-00185247 disney purchased a minority stake in the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00657-00185248-00185535 anaheim angels baseball team around the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00658-00185536-00185726 same time
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00659-00185727-00185999 wells was killed in a helicopter crash
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00660-00186000-00186231 in 1994.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00661-00186232-00186502 shortly thereafter katzenberg resigned
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00662-00186503-00186831 and formed dreamworks skg because eisner
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00663-00186832-00187063 would not appoint katzenberg to wells
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00664-00187064-00187350 now available post katzenberg had also
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00665-00187351-00187687 sued over the terms of his contract
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00666-00187688-00187950 instead eisner recruited his friend
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00667-00187951-00188190 michael ovitz one of the founders of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00668-00188191-00188487 creative artists agency to be president
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00669-00188488-00188719 with minimal involvement from disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00670-00188720-00188935 board of directors which at the time
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00671-00188936-00189166 included oscar-winning actor sidney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00672-00189167-00189519 poitier hilton hotels corporation ceo
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00673-00189520-00189807 stephen balenbach former u.s senator
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00674-00189808-00190078 george mitchell yale dean robert a.m
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00675-00190079-00190343 stern and azner's predecessors raymond
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00676-00190344-00190750 watson and card walker ovitz lasted only
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00677-00190751-00191066 14 months and left disney in december
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00678-00191067-00191407 1996 via no fault termination with a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00679-00191408-00191702 severance package of 38 million dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00680-00191703-00191975 in cash and 3 million stock options
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00681-00191976-00192263 worth roughly 100 million dollars at the
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+wlEt7iMqP6u-00683-00192536-00192750 the ovitz episode engendered a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00684-00192751-00192966 long-running derivative suit which
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00685-00192967-00193375 finally concluded in june 2006 almost 10
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00686-00193376-00193559 years later
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00687-00193560-00193823 chancellor william b chandler iii of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00688-00193824-00194063 delaware court of chancery despite
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00689-00194064-00194326 describing azner's behavior as falling
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00690-00194327-00194566 far short of what shareholders expect
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00691-00194567-00194783 and demand from those entrusted with a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00692-00194784-00195054 fiduciary position found in favor of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00693-00195055-00195295 eisner and the rest of the disney board
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00694-00195296-00195511 because they had not violated the letter
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00695-00195512-00195783 of the law namely the duty of care owed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00696-00195784-00196047 by a corporation's officers and board to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00697-00196048-00196254 its shareholders
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00698-00196255-00196590 eisner later said in a 2016 interview
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00699-00196591-00196799 with the hollywood reporter that he
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00700-00196800-00197078 regretted letting ovitz go
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00701-00197079-00197519 in 1994 eisner attempted to purchase nbc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00702-00197520-00197823 from general electric ge but the deal
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00703-00197824-00198190 failed due to ge wanting to keep 51
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00704-00198191-00198423 ownership of the network
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00705-00198424-00198719 disney acquired many other media sources
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00706-00198720-00198950 during the decade including a merger
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00707-00198951-00199243 with capital cities abc in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00708-00199244-00199631 1995 which brought broadcast network abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00709-00199632-00199895 and its assets including the a and e
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00710-00199896-00200190 television networks and espn networks
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00711-00200191-00200535 into the disney fold eisner felt that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00712-00200536-00200814 the purchase of abc was an important
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00713-00200815-00201071 investment to keep disney surviving and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00714-00201072-00201223 allowing it to compete with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00715-00201224-00201583 international multimedia conglomerates
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00716-00201584-00201911 disney lost a 10.4 million dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00717-00201912-00202207 lawsuit in september 1997
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00718-00202208-00202526 to marsu bv over disney's failure to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00719-00202527-00202807 produce as contracted 13 half-hour
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00720-00202808-00203126 marsupillami cartoon shows
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00721-00203127-00203414 instead disney felt other internal hot
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00722-00203415-00203631 properties deserved the company's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00723-00203632-00203919 attention disney which had taken control
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00724-00203920-00204295 of the anaheim angels in 1996 purchased
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00725-00204296-00204743 a majority stake in the team in 1998
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00726-00204744-00205046 that same year disney began a move into
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00727-00205048-00205271 the internet field with the purchase of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00728-00205271-00205679 starwave and 43 of infoseek
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00729-00205680-00205862 in 1999
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00730-00205863-00206110 disney purchased the remaining shares of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00731-00206111-00206351 infoseek and launched the go network
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00732-00206352-00206598 portal in january
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00733-00206600-00206855 disney also launched its cruise line
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00734-00206856-00207086 with the christening of disney magic and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00735-00207087-00207375 a sister ship disney wonder
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00736-00207376-00207638 the katzenberg case dragged on as his
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00737-00207639-00207894 contract included a portion of the film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00738-00207896-00208262 revenue from ancillary markets forever
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00739-00208263-00208590 katzenberg had offered 100 to settle the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00740-00208591-00208862 case but eisner felt the original claim
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00741-00208863-00209119 amount of about half a billion too much
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00742-00209119-00209382 but then the ancillary market clause was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00743-00209383-00209519 found
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00744-00209519-00209767 disney lawyers tried to indicate a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00745-00209767-00210031 decline situation which reveals some of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00746-00210032-00210287 the problems in the company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00747-00210288-00210615 abc had declining rating and increasing
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00748-00210616-00210879 costs while the film segment had two
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00749-00210880-00211079 film failures
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00750-00211080-00211255 while neither party revealed the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00751-00211256-00211558 settlement amount it is estimated at 200
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00752-00211559-00211758 million dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00753-00211759-00212006 azner's controlling style inhibited
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00754-00212007-00212231 efficiency and progress according to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00755-00212232-00212439 some critics while other industry
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00756-00212440-00212694 experts indicated that age compression
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00757-00212696-00212951 theory led to a decline in the company's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00758-00212952-00213198 target market due to youth copying
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00759-00213200-00213463 teenage behavior earlier
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00760-00213464-00213734 the year 2000 brought an increase in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00761-00213735-00213894 revenue of 9
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00762-00213896-00214127 and net income of 39
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00763-00214128-00214463 with abc and espn leading the way and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00764-00214464-00214694 parks and resorts marking its sixth
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00765-00214696-00214958 consecutive year of growth
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00766-00214959-00215279 however the september 11 attacks led to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00767-00215280-00215534 a decline in vacation travel and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00768-00215535-00215846 early 2000s recession led to a decrease
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00769-00215848-00216079 in abc revenue
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00770-00216080-00216319 plus eisner had the company make an
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00771-00216319-00216558 expensive purchase of fox family
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00772-00216559-00216731 worldwide
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00773-00216732-00217046 2001 was a year of cost cutting laying
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00774-00217048-00217119 off
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00775-00217119-00217255 000 employees
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00776-00217256-00217503 disney park's operations decreased
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00777-00217504-00217734 slashing annual live-action film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00778-00217735-00217975 investment and minimizing internet
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00779-00217976-00218151 operations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00780-00218152-00218494 while 2002 revenue had a small decrease
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00781-00218496-00218798 from 2001 with the cost cutting net
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00782-00218800-00219151 income rose to 1.2 billion dollars with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00783-00219152-00219446 two creative film releases
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00784-00219448-00219839 in 2003 disney became the first studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00785-00219840-00220110 to record over 3 billion dollars in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00786-00220111-00220431 worldwide box office receipts
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00787-00220432-00220631 eisner did not want the board to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00788-00220632-00220958 renominate roy disney the son of disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00789-00220959-00221231 co-founder roy o disney as a board
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00790-00221232-00221527 director citing his age of 72 as a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00791-00221528-00221806 required retirement age
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00792-00221807-00222087 stanley gold responded by resigning from
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00793-00222088-00222319 the board and requesting the other board
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00794-00222319-00222567 members oust eisner
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00795-00222567-00222975 on november 30 2003 disney resigned from
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00796-00222976-00223206 his positions as the company's vice
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00797-00223207-00223431 chairman and chairman of walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00798-00223432-00223698 feature animation accusing eisner of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00799-00223700-00223982 micromanagement failures with the abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00800-00223983-00224246 television network timidity in the theme
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00801-00224248-00224503 park business turning the walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00802-00224504-00224894 company into a rapacious soulless
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00803-00224896-00225142 company and refusing to establish a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00804-00225144-00225382 clear succession plan as well as a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00805-00225383-00225671 string of box office film flops starting
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00806-00225671-00225942 in the year 2000
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00807-00225944-00226327 on august 9 2002 disney said it was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00808-00226328-00226551 expressing great interest in buying
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00809-00226552-00226831 universal studios whose parent company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00810-00226832-00227079 vivindi started a bidding war after
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00811-00227080-00227194 inheriting
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00812-00227196-00227519 17.9 billion dollars in debt by its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00813-00227519-00227798 purchase of the famed major film studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00814-00227800-00228215 from seagram for 34 billion dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00815-00228216-00228510 in addition universal orlando's islands
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00816-00228511-00228746 of adventure was struggling to deal with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00817-00228748-00228967 catastrophically low attendance since
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00818-00228967-00229139 the park's opening in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00819-00229140-00229482 1999 and the september 11 attacks in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00820-00229483-00229839 2001 caused a dip of universal parks and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00821-00229840-00230198 resorts tourism attendance worldwide
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00822-00230200-00230471 as a result vivindi lacked the interest
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00823-00230471-00230742 in investing in the universal parks more
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00824-00230744-00230942 meaningfully and may have been one of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00825-00230944-00231279 the reasons for selling off universal
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00826-00231280-00231542 analysts speculated that universal would
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00827-00231544-00231791 have to be available at a bargain price
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00828-00231792-00232134 to justify such a deal owning more theme
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00829-00232135-00232391 parks could make disney even more
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00830-00232392-00232646 cyclical because that's a cyclical
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00831-00232648-00232846 business
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00832-00232848-00233110 said catherine stiponyas of prudential
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00833-00233111-00233255 securities
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00834-00233256-00233519 despite this disney didn't succeed in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00835-00233519-00233798 pursuing a takeover for various reasons
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00836-00233800-00234094 owing to its stock price at a 52-week
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00837-00234096-00234310 low the hostility from vivendi
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00838-00234311-00234534 shareholders and the likelihood of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00839-00234535-00234798 disney universal deal being blocked on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00840-00234800-00235127 anti-trust grounds eg less innovation in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00841-00235128-00235382 theme parks higher prices for hotel
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00842-00235383-00235694 rooms growing power of box office market
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00843-00235696-00236151 share etc on may 15 2003 disney sold
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00844-00236152-00236375 their stake in the anaheim angels
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00845-00236376-00236719 baseball team to arte moreno
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00846-00236719-00236919 disney purchased the rights to the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00847-00236919-00237142 muppets and the bear in the big blue
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00848-00237144-00237391 house franchises from the jim henson
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00849-00237392-00237839 company on february 17 2004.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00850-00237840-00238087 the two brands were placed under control
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00851-00238088-00238398 of the muppets holding company llc a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00852-00238400-00238734 unit of disney consumer products
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00853-00238735-00239142 in 2004 pixar animation studios began
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00854-00239144-00239367 looking for another distributor after
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00855-00239367-00239655 its 12-year contract with disney ended
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00856-00239656-00239894 due to its strained relationship over
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00857-00239896-00240246 issues of control and money with eisner
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00858-00240248-00240558 also that year comcast corporation made
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00859-00240559-00240846 an unsolicited 54 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00860-00240848-00241110 bid to acquire disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00861-00241111-00241382 a couple of high-budget films flopped at
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00862-00241383-00241534 the box office
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00863-00241535-00241742 with these difficulties and with some
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00864-00241744-00242015 board directors dissatisfied eisner
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00865-00242016-00242287 ceded the board chairmanship
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00866-00242288-00242663 on march 3 2004 at disney's annual
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00867-00242664-00243039 shareholders meeting a surprising 45 of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00868-00243040-00243279 disney's shareholders predominantly
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00869-00243280-00243527 rallied by former board members roy
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00870-00243528-00243782 disney and stanley gold withheld their
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00871-00243783-00244158 proxies to re-elect eisner to the board
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00872-00244159-00244351 disney's board then gave the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00873-00244352-00244591 chairmanship position to mitchell
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00874-00244592-00244839 however the board did not immediately
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00875-00244840-00245167 remove eisner as chief executive
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00876-00245167-00245542 in 2005 disney sold the mighty ducks of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00877-00245544-00245839 anaheim hockey team to henry and susan
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00878-00245840-00245998 samwelli
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00879-00246000-00246398 on march 13 2005 robert a iger was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00880-00246400-00246798 announced as eisner successor as ceo
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00881-00246800-00247127 on september 30 eisner resigned both as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00882-00247128-00247334 an executive and as a member of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00883-00247335-00248123 board of directors
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00884-00248123-00248806 2005 present bob iger era
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00885-00248807-00249287 on july 8 2005 walt disney's nephew roy
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00886-00249288-00249527 disney returned to the company as a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00887-00249528-00249782 consultant and as non-voting director
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00888-00249783-00249951 emeritus
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00889-00249952-00250239 walt disney parks and resorts celebrated
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00890-00250240-00250542 the 50th anniversary of disneyland park
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00891-00250544-00250919 on july 17 and open hong kong disneyland
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00892-00250919-00251151 on september 12th
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00893-00251152-00251423 walt disney feature animation released
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00894-00251423-00251687 chicken little the company's first film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00895-00251688-00251967 using 3d animation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00896-00251967-00252294 on october 1st iger replaced eisner as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00897-00252296-00252423 ceo
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00898-00252423-00252710 miramax co-founders bob weinstein and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00899-00252711-00252951 harvey weinstein also departed the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00900-00252952-00253271 company to form their own studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00901-00253271-00253694 on july 25 2005 disney announced that it
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00902-00253696-00253927 was closing disney tune studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00903-00253928-00254342 australia in october 2006 after 17 years
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00904-00254344-00254798 of existence on january 23 2006 it was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00905-00254800-00255015 announced that disney would purchase
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00906-00255016-00255327 pixar in an all stock transaction valued
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00907-00255328-00255671 at 7.4 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00908-00255671-00255991 the deal was finalized on may 5 steve
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00909-00255992-00256471 jobs who was pixar's ceo and held a 50.1
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00910-00256471-00256671 ownership stake in the company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00911-00256671-00256863 transitioned to disney's board of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00912-00256864-00257110 directors as its largest individual
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00913-00257111-00257455 shareholder with a 7 stake
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00914-00257456-00257719 ed catmull took over as president of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00915-00257719-00257991 pixar animation studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00916-00257992-00258303 former executive vice president of pixar
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00917-00258304-00258567 john lasseter became chief creative
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00918-00258567-00258887 officer of walt disney animation studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00919-00258888-00259151 its division disney tune studios and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00920-00259152-00259439 pixar animation studios as well as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00921-00259440-00259671 assuming the role of principal creative
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00922-00259671-00259975 advisor at walt disney imagineering in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00923-00259976-00260327 february 2006 disney acquired the rights
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00924-00260328-00260615 to oswald the lucky rabbit from nbc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00925-00260616-00260830 universal including the character's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00926-00260831-00261142 intellectual property and the 26 oswald
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00927-00261144-00261455 cartoons produced by walt disney as part
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00928-00261456-00261775 of an exchange of minor assets
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00929-00261776-00262079 in return disney released sportscaster
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00930-00262080-00262367 all michaels from his contracts with abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00931-00262368-00262734 sports and espn so he could join nbc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00932-00262735-00262991 sports and his longtime partner john
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00933-00262992-00263351 madden for nbc's new nfl sunday night
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00934-00263352-00263510 football
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00935-00263511-00263823 in april 2007 the muppets holding
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00936-00263824-00264087 company was moved from disney consumer
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00937-00264088-00264327 products to the walt disney studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00938-00264328-00264591 division and renamed the muppets studio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00939-00264592-00264806 as part of efforts to relaunch the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00940-00264807-00264967 division
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00941-00264968-00265343 in february 2007 the company was accused
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00942-00265344-00265606 of human rights violations regarding the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00943-00265607-00265839 working conditions in factories that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00944-00265840-00266087 produce their merchandise
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00945-00266088-00266487 on august 31 2009 disney announced a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00946-00266488-00266795 deal to acquire marvel entertainment for
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00947-00266796-00267143 4.24 billion dollars in a deal completed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00948-00267144-00267551 on december 31 2009 director emeritus
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00949-00267552-00267855 roy e disney died of stomach cancer on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00950-00267856-00268206 december 16 2009
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00951-00268207-00268415 at the time of his death he owned
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00952-00268416-00268655 roughly one percent of all of disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00953-00268656-00269039 which amounted to 16 million shares he
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00954-00269040-00269303 was the last member of the disney family
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00955-00269304-00269639 to be actively involved in the company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00956-00269640-00270023 in october 2009 disney channel president
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00957-00270024-00270319 rich ross hired by iger replaced dick
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00958-00270320-00270543 cook as chairman of the company and in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00959-00270544-00270823 november began restructuring the company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00960-00270824-00271063 to focus more on family-friendly
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00961-00271064-00271215 products
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00962-00271216-00271582 later in january 2010 disney decided to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00963-00271583-00271839 shut down miramax after downsizing
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00964-00271840-00272079 touchstone but one month later they
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00965-00272080-00272358 instead began selling the miramax brand
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00966-00272359-00272687 and its 700 title film library to film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00967-00272688-00272887 yard holdings
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00968-00272888-00273151 in march image movers digital which
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00969-00273152-00273375 disney had established as a joint
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00970-00273376-00273658 venture studio with robert zemeckis in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00971-00273659-00273975 2007 was shut down
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00972-00273976-00274279 in april 2010 lyric street disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00973-00274280-00274534 country music label in nashville was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00974-00274535-00274710 shut down
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00975-00274711-00274927 the following month hayam saban
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00976-00274928-00275206 reacquired the power rangers franchise
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00977-00275207-00275582 including its 700-episode library
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00978-00275583-00275910 in september 2012 saban reacquired the
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+wlEt7iMqP6u-00980-00276192-00276487 rangers was part of the fox kids library
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00981-00276488-00276863 that disney acquired in 2001.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00982-00276864-00277206 in january 2011 disney interactive
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00983-00277207-00277519 studios was downsized
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00984-00277520-00277863 in april 2011 disney broke ground on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00985-00277864-00278127 shanghai disney resort
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00986-00278128-00278415 costing 4.4 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00987-00278416-00278895 the resort opened on june 16 2016.
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00988-00278896-00279263 later in august 2011 bob iger stated on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00989-00279264-00279510 a conference call that after the success
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00990-00279511-00279775 of the pixar and marvel purchases he and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00991-00279776-00280071 the walt disney company are looking to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00992-00280072-00280367 buy either new characters or businesses
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00993-00280368-00280606 that are capable of creating great
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00994-00280607-00280951 characters and great stories
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00995-00280952-00281303 later in early february 2012 disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00996-00281304-00281558 completed its acquisition of utv
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00997-00281559-00281830 software communications expanding their
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00998-00281831-00282167 market further into india and asia
+wlEt7iMqP6u-00999-00282168-00282534 on october 30 2012 disney announced
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01000-00282535-00282830 plans to acquire lucasfilm in a deal
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01001-00282831-00282979 valued at
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01002-00282980-00283295 4.05 billion dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01003-00283296-00283534 disney announced an intent to leverage
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01004-00283535-00283791 the star wars franchise across its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01005-00283792-00284006 divisions and planned to produce a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01006-00284007-00284239 seventh installment in the main film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01007-00284240-00284615 franchise for release in 2015
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01008-00284616-00284934 the sale was completed on december 21
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01009-00284935-00285463 2012. on march 24 2014 disney acquired
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01010-00285464-00285758 maker studios an active multi-channel
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01011-00285759-00286054 network on youtube for 500 million
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01012-00286055-00286206 dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01013-00286207-00286454 the company was later turned into a new
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01014-00286455-00286719 venture called disney digital network in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01015-00286720-00287175 may 2017. on february 5th 2015 it was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01016-00287176-00287406 announced that tom staggs had been
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01017-00287407-00287663 promoted to coo
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01018-00287664-00288030 on april 4 2016 disney announced that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01019-00288031-00288263 staggs and the company had mutually
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01020-00288264-00288623 agreed to part ways effective may 2016
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01021-00288624-00288887 ending his 26-year career with the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01022-00288888-00289039 company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01023-00289040-00289479 in august 2016 disney acquired a 33
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01024-00289480-00289727 stake in bamtik a streaming media
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01025-00289728-00289967 provider spun out from major league
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01026-00289968-00290247 baseball's media division
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01027-00290248-00290454 the company announced plans to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01028-00290455-00290719 eventually use its infrastructure for an
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01029-00290720-00291079 espn over the top service
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01030-00291080-00291439 in september 2016 disney was considering
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01031-00291440-00291727 placing a bid for american online news
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01032-00291728-00291958 and social networking service twitter
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01033-00291959-00292158 but they dropped out partly due to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01034-00292159-00292430 concerns over abuse and harassment on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01035-00292431-00292623 the service
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01036-00292624-00293039 on march 23 2017 disney announced that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01037-00293040-00293310 iger had agreed to a one-year extension
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01038-00293311-00293727 of his term as ceo through july 2nd 2019
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01039-00293728-00293910 and had agreed to remain with the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01040-00293911-00294167 company as a consultant for three years
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01041-00294168-00294399 after stepping down
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01042-00294400-00294743 in august 2017 disney announced that it
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01043-00294744-00294999 had exercised an option to increase its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01044-00295000-00295279 stake in bamtech to 75
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01045-00295280-00295510 and would launch a subscription video on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01046-00295511-00295695 demand service featuring its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01047-00295696-00296023 entertainment content in 2019 which will
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01048-00296024-00296343 replace netflix as the subscription vod
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01049-00296344-00296606 rights holder of all disney theatrical
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01050-00296607-00296806 film releases
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01051-00296807-00297158 in november 2017 lasseter announced that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01052-00297159-00297382 he was taking a six-month leave of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01053-00297383-00297679 absence from pixar and disney animation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01054-00297680-00297982 after acknowledging missteps
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01055-00297983-00298263 in his behavior with employees in a memo
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01056-00298264-00298391 to staff
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01057-00298392-00298615 according to various news outlets
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01058-00298616-00298887 lasseter had a history of alleged sexual
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01059-00298888-00299247 misconduct towards employees in 2018
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01060-00299248-00299495 bernie sanders criticized the disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01061-00299496-00299758 company for rejecting tax breaks rather
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01062-00299759-00300023 than pay a living wage to its employees
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01063-00300024-00300279 at disneyland and disney california
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01064-00300280-00300430 adventure
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01065-00300431-00300671 a survey revealed that many of its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01066-00300672-00301006 workers were receiving food stamps
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01067-00301007-00301367 on june 8 2018 disney announced that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01068-00301368-00301599 lasseter would be leaving the company by
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01069-00301600-00301830 the end of the year but would take on a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01070-00301831-00302119 consulting role until then
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01071-00302120-00302534 on june 19 2018 pete doctor and jennifer
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01072-00302535-00302734 lee were announced as lasseter's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01073-00302735-00302999 replacements as chief creative officers
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01074-00303000-00303230 of pixar and disney animation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01075-00303231-00303415 respectively
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01076-00303416-00303854 on june 28 2018 disney tune studios was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01077-00303855-00304199 shut down resulting in the layoffs of 75
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01078-00304200-00304567 animators and staff
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01079-00304568-00304903 topic merger with 21st century fox in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01080-00304904-00305343 november 2017. it was reported by cnbc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01081-00305344-00305606 that disney had been in negotiations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01082-00305607-00305927 with 21st century fox to merge the two
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01083-00305928-00306087 companies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01084-00306088-00306367 the negotiations had reportedly resumed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01085-00306368-00306671 around disney acquiring several of fox's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01086-00306672-00306910 key media assets
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01087-00306911-00307158 rumors of a nearing deal continued on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01088-00307159-00307519 december 5 2017 with additional reports
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01089-00307520-00307799 suggesting that the fsn regional sports
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01090-00307800-00307982 networks would be included in the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01091-00307983-00308230 resulting new company assets that would
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01092-00308231-00308527 likely be aligned with disney's espn
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01093-00308528-00308854 division on december 14 of the same year
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01094-00308855-00309087 the walt disney company announced its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01095-00309088-00309423 intention to merge with 21st century fox
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01096-00309424-00309579 in a deal worth
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01097-00309580-00309934 52.4 billion dollars in stock
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01098-00309935-00310182 the merger includes many of fox's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01099-00310183-00310430 entertainment assets including filmed
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01100-00310431-00310679 entertainment cable entertainment and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01101-00310680-00310951 direct broadcast satellite divisions in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01102-00310952-00311271 the uk europe and asia but excludes
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01103-00311272-00311527 divisions such as the fox broadcasting
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01104-00311528-00311847 company fox television stations the fox
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01105-00311848-00312127 news channel the fox business network
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01106-00312128-00312399 fox sports 1 and 2 and the big 10
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01107-00312400-00312623 network all of which will be spun off
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01108-00312624-00312854 into an independent company before the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01109-00312855-00313095 merger is complete beginning in march
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01110-00313096-00313423 2018 a strategic reorganization of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01111-00313424-00313695 company saw the creation of two business
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01112-00313696-00314015 segments walt disney parks experiences
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01113-00314016-00314263 and consumer products and walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01114-00314264-00314599 direct to consumer and international
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01115-00314600-00314815 parks and consumer products was
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01116-00314816-00315079 primarily a merger of parks and resorts
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01117-00315080-00315319 and consumer products and interactive
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01118-00315320-00315463 media
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01119-00315464-00315654 while direct to consumer and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01120-00315655-00315887 international took over for disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01121-00315888-00316110 international and global sales
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01122-00316111-00316358 distribution and streaming units from
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01123-00316359-00316671 disney abc tv group and studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01124-00316672-00316910 entertainment plus disney digital
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01125-00316911-00317054 network
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01126-00317055-00317334 given that ceo iger described it as
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01127-00317335-00317582 strategically positioning our businesses
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01128-00317583-00317799 for the future the new york times
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01129-00317800-00318023 considered the reorganization done in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01130-00318024-00318334 expectation of the 21st century fox
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01131-00318335-00318654 purchase in april 2018 peter rice
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01132-00318655-00318895 revealed that the merger is expected to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01133-00318896-00319247 close by the summer of 2019
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01134-00319248-00319567 however on june 13th of the same year
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01135-00319568-00319830 comcast corporation announced their own
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01136-00319831-00320271 bid for fox worth 65 billion dollars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01137-00320272-00320515 disney counter attacked with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01138-00320516-00320727 71.3 billion
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01139-00320728-00320934 bid week later
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01140-00320935-00321367 by june 27 2018 the u.s department of
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01141-00321368-00321599 justice granted disney approval to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01142-00321600-00321943 acquire assets of 21st century fox on
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01143-00321944-00322263 the condition that they divest fox's 22
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01144-00322264-00322527 regional sports networks
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01145-00322528-00322806 the next day disney and fox board
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01146-00322807-00323199 scheduled july 27 2018 as the day
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01147-00323200-00323479 shareholders vote on fox's merger with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01148-00323480-00323934 disney by july 19 comcast withdrew its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01149-00323935-00324215 bid to buy fox ending disney's last
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01150-00324216-00324582 obstacle to buying it itself on july 27
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01151-00324583-00324895 2018 shareholders voted in favor of the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01152-00324896-00325143 merger approving the company buyout
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01153-00325144-00325367 pending international regulatory
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01154-00325368-00325510 approval
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01155-00325511-00325743 the new company formed by the merger
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01156-00325744-00326110 will assume the walt disney company name
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01157-00326111-00326351 the deal is expected to close in the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01158-00326352-00327087 first half of 2019
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01159-00327088-00327678 topic launch of disney plus
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01160-00327679-00328006 in august 2017 disney announced that
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01161-00328007-00328215 they would be starting its own streaming
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01162-00328216-00328495 service known as disney plus to compete
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01163-00328496-00328727 with the longtime industry monopoly
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01164-00328728-00328895 netflix
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01165-00328896-00329134 disney plus is currently scheduled to
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01166-00329135-00329478 begin service in late 2019 with mini
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01167-00329479-00329719 series announced that will be using its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01168-00329720-00330023 many successful franchises
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01169-00330024-00330271 disney currently has a publishing deal
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01170-00330272-00330510 with netflix to stream its content
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01171-00330511-00330751 however disney has said that its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01172-00330752-00331054 contract will end in 2019 and they won't
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01173-00331055-00331215 renew it
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01174-00331216-00331487 disney movies and franchises will only
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01175-00331488-00331734 be available via the new disney plus
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01176-00331735-00331910 subscription
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01177-00331911-00332119 the service will have content from
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01178-00332120-00332439 disney walt disney animation studios
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01179-00332440-00332775 pixar marble star wars and national
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01180-00332776-00333078 geographic
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01181-00333079-00333327 topic company units the walt disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01182-00333328-00333615 company operates four primary business
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01183-00333616-00333887 units which it calls business segments
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01184-00333888-00334167 studio entertainment media networks and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01185-00334168-00334406 direct to consumer and international
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01186-00334407-00334663 businesses and parks experiences and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01187-00334664-00334895 consumer products which includes the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01188-00334896-00335191 company's theme parks cruise line travel
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01189-00335192-00335463 related assets consumer products and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01190-00335464-00335703 publishing divisions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01191-00335704-00335927 studio entertainment includes the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01192-00335928-00336206 company's primary business unit the walt
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01193-00336207-00336510 disney studios which includes its film
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01194-00336511-00336767 music recording label and theatrical
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01195-00336768-00336934 divisions
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01196-00336935-00337295 media networks includes espn inc and the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01197-00337296-00337630 disney abc television group and consists
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01198-00337631-00337934 of the company's broadcast cable radio
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01199-00337935-00338254 and publishing and digital businesses
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01200-00338255-00338558 the direct to consumer division includes
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01201-00338559-00338815 digital subscription streaming services
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01202-00338816-00339087 and international holdings
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01203-00339088-00339367 marvel entertainment is also a direct
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01204-00339368-00339615 ceo reporting business while its
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01205-00339616-00339871 financial results are primarily divided
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01206-00339872-00340095 between the studio entertainment and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01207-00340096-00340351 consumer products segments the company's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01208-00340352-00340582 main entertainment holdings include the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01209-00340583-00340903 walt disney studios disney music group
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01210-00340904-00341206 disney theatrical group disney abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01211-00341207-00341575 television group radio disney espn in
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01212-00341576-00341830 disney interactive disney consumer
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01213-00341831-00342071 products disney india limited the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01214-00342072-00342319 muppets studio pixar marvel
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01215-00342320-00342639 entertainment marvel studios utv
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01216-00342640-00342943 software communications lucasfilm and
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01217-00342944-00343271 disney digital network the company's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01218-00343272-00343558 resorts and diversified related holdings
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01219-00343559-00343839 include walt disney parks and resorts
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01220-00343840-00344127 walt disney world disneyland resort
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01221-00344128-00344439 tokyo disney resort disneyland paris
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01222-00344440-00344719 hong kong disneyland resort shanghai
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01223-00344720-00345006 disney resort disney vacation club
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01224-00345007-00345263 disney cruise line and adventures by
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01225-00345264-00345871 disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01226-00345872-00346503 topic disney media networks
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01227-00346504-00346782 disney media network's division operates
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01228-00346783-00346991 the company's various television
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01229-00346992-00347263 networks cable channels associated
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01230-00347264-00347503 production and distribution companies
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01231-00347504-00347719 and owned and operated television
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01232-00347720-00347878 stations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01233-00347879-00348167 media networks also manages disney's
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01234-00348168-00348375 interest in its joint venture with
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01235-00348376-00348591 hearst communications for a plus
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01236-00348592-00348895 e-networks an espn inc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01237-00348896-00349158 it is the only division with two leaders
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01238-00349159-00349239 or
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01239-00349240-00349399 co-chairs
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01240-00349400-00349758 the presidents of espn and disney abc
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01241-00349759-00350447 television group
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01242-00350448-00351430 topic executive management
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01243-00351431-00351958 topic presidents
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01244-00351959-00352487 walt disney 1923-1945
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01245-00352488-00353054 roy o disney 1945-1966
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01246-00353055-00353591 don tatum 1966-1971
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01247-00353592-00354134 card walker 1971-1977
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01248-00354135-00354687 ron w miller 1978
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01249-00354688-00355199 frank wells 1984-1994
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01250-00355200-00355727 michael o vitz 1995-1997
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01251-00355728-00355903 robert a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01252-00355904-00356615 iger 2000-2012
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01253-00356616-00357271 topic chief executive officers
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01254-00357272-00357847 roy o disney 1929-1971
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01255-00357848-00358382 don tatum 1971-1976
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01256-00358383-00358910 card walker 1972
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01257-00358911-00359423 ron w miller 1983-1984
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01258-00359424-00359919 michael eisner 1984-2005
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01259-00359920-00360087 robert a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01260-00360088-00360871 iger 2005 present
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01261-00360872-00361287 chairman
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01262-00361288-00361551 walt disney dropped his chairman title
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01263-00361552-00361887 in 1960 to focus more on the creative
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01264-00361888-00362158 aspects of the company becoming the
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01265-00362159-00362447 executive producer in charge of all
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01266-00362448-00362615 production
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01267-00362616-00362934 after a four-year vacancy roy o disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01268-00362935-00363206 assumed the chairmanship
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01269-00363207-00363719 walt disney 1945-1960
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01270-00363720-00364287 roy o disney 1964-1971
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01271-00364288-00364758 don tatum 1971-1980
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01272-00364759-00365230 card walker 1980-1983
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01273-00365231-00365727 raymond watson 1983-1984
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01274-00365728-00366230 michael eisner 1984-2004
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01275-00366231-00366743 george j mitchell 2004-2006
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01276-00366744-00367271 john e pepper jr 2007-2012
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01277-00367272-00367447 robert a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01278-00367448-00368095 iger 2012 present
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01279-00368096-00368654 topic vice chairman
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01280-00368655-00368791 roy e
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01281-00368792-00369254 disney 1984-2003
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01282-00369255-00369606 sanford litveck 1999-2000
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01283-00369607-00370182 co-vice chair
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01284-00370183-00370830 topic chief operating officers
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01285-00370831-00371239 frank wells 1984-1994
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01286-00371240-00371495 concurrently president
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01287-00371496-00371934 sanford litveck 1997-1999
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01288-00371935-00372182 chief of operations
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01289-00372183-00372351 robert a
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01290-00372352-00372767 iger 2000-2000
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01291-00372768-00373599 tom staggs 2015-2016
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01292-00373600-00374543 topic financial data
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01293-00374544-00375071 topic revenues
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01294-00375072-00375519 disney ranked no 55 in the 2018 fortune
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01295-00375520-00375830 500 list of the largest united states
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01296-00375831-00376671 corporations by total revenue
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01297-00376672-00377510 net income
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01298-00377511-00378078 topic see also
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01299-00378079-00378351 walt and roy disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01300-00378352-00378710 lists of films released by disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01301-00378711-00378958 disney university
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01302-00378959-00379191 disney vacation
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01303-00379192-00379406 buena vista
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01304-00379407-00379654 mandeville anthony v
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01305-00379655-00379943 the walt disney company a federal court
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01306-00379944-00380206 case in which mandeville claimed disney
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01307-00380207-00380487 infringed on his copyrighted ideas by
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01308-00380488-00380710 creating cars
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01309-00380711-00380967 list of conglomerates
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01310-00380968-00381334 criticism of the walt disney company
+wlEt7iMqP6u-01311-00381335-00381748 equals equals footnotes
+xoh36dkvnyy-00000-00001351-00001780 welcome to taco cell may I take your
+xoh36dkvnyy-00001-00001780-00001894 order
+xoh36dkvnyy-00002-00001895-00002257 do you have any vegetable wraps next
+xoh36dkvnyy-00003-00002258-00002761 would like a burrito next listen all I'm
+xoh36dkvnyy-00004-00002762-00003226 saying is next I'd like a piping out the
+xoh36dkvnyy-00005-00003227-00003610 bull of chili please what no pawn oh
+xoh36dkvnyy-00006-00003611-00003879 well here you go
+xoh36dkvnyy-00007-00003879-00004450 gracias next where's margin pan tonic we
+xoh36dkvnyy-00008-00004451-00004636 don't serve alcohol
+xoh36dkvnyy-00009-00004637-00005050 next is chili you gave me as I scold you
+xoh36dkvnyy-00010-00005051-00005313 might even say it just came out of the
+xoh36dkvnyy-00011-00005314-00006121 freezer I'll be Changeling my order
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00000-00000112-00000335 ariel and binium have had their fair
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00001-00000336-00000574 share of drama on 90d fiancee the other
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00002-00000575-00000638 way
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00003-00000639-00000854 now that ariely has given birth to their
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00004-00000855-00001062 son the topic of how to raise him
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00005-00001063-00001262 particularly when it comes to religion
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00006-00001263-00001447 has been a point of contention
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00007-00001448-00001687 on sunday's episode ariella got into a
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00008-00001688-00001887 heated argument with binyam's sisters
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00009-00001888-00002047 who told her she's acting just like
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00010-00002048-00002883 their brother's
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00011-00002884-00003711 ex
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00012-00003711-00003903 ariela's parents were not happy about
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00013-00003904-00004086 their daughter and grandchild's living
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00014-00004087-00004183 conditions
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00015-00004184-00004375 they told binium that the apartment is
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00016-00004376-00004559 too small and that he needed to get a
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00017-00004560-00004686 better job
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00018-00004687-00004879 after a rough meeting with binium
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00019-00004880-00005079 ariela's parents go to dinner with him
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00020-00005080-00005199 and his family
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00021-00005200-00005406 there binium's family tells ariela's
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00022-00005407-00005622 parents that she has a bad temper
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00023-00005623-00005847 as the night went on ariela's parents
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00024-00005848-00006038 became increasingly concerned that their
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00025-00006039-00006318 daughter has no support in ethiopia
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00026-00006319-00006510 things got really heated at dinner when
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00027-00006511-00006767 it was revealed that adl ariella and
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00028-00006768-00006998 binium's son had been baptized
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00029-00007000-00007198 from the beginning ariel and binium
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00030-00007200-00007423 haven't seen eye to eye on religion
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00031-00007423-00007655 ariella is jewish her father is also
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00032-00007656-00007878 jewish and her mother is catholic
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00033-00007879-00008110 and binium and his family are ethiopian
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00034-00008111-00008263 orthodox christian
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00035-00008264-00008463 so when ariela's parents learn that the
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00036-00008464-00008671 baby has been baptized her father called
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00037-00008672-00008846 it a true shock
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00038-00008847-00009031 i thought having spoken to aerie that
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00039-00009032-00009295 avey would be browned up jewish he says
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00040-00009296-00009583 i think she's been forced upon ariela
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00041-00009584-00009774 told her parents that she justified the
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00042-00009775-00009967 baptism by telling herself that they
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00043-00009968-00010063 were only putting
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00044-00010064-00010278 av in water and having a celebration for
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00045-00010279-00010431 him nothing more
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00046-00010432-00010623 when you baptize them they're baptized
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00047-00010624-00010846 into that faith usually ariella's mother
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00048-00010847-00010974 responded
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00049-00010975-00011191 ariella said she felt like binium's
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00050-00011192-00011399 family not biting him were forcing the
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00051-00011400-00011583 baptism on adl
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00052-00011584-00011823 binium's sister agreed saying the baby
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00053-00011824-00012014 will go straight to hell if he isn't
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00054-00012015-00012119 baptized
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00055-00012120-00012295 we know from a previous episode that
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00056-00012296-00012527 ariel is uncomfortable with christianity
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00057-00012528-00012735 because she doesn't believe in hell
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00058-00012736-00012974 i don't like this idea of hell she said
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00059-00012975-00013135 you're bad you're going to hell that's
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00060-00013136-00013222 really important
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00061-00013223-00013430 i don't want hell in his life and i told
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00062-00013431-00013615 you if i catch you doing that that would
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00063-00013616-00013775 be one of the reasons that i really
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00064-00013776-00013894 would leave
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00065-00013895-00014143 in response binium's sister tell ariella
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00066-00014144-00014351 that she's acting like binium's american
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00067-00014352-00014463 ex-wife
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00068-00014463-00014694 ariella calls the comparison up
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00069-00014695-00014903 and asks binium if he's going to let his
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00070-00014904-00014951 sister
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00071-00014952-00015230 say that to her benny and ariella
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00072-00015231-00015407 clearly still have a lot of issues to
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00073-00015408-00015511 work through
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00074-00015512-00015703 what should have been a happy occasion
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00075-00015704-00015871 grandparents meeting each other for the
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00076-00015872-00015943 first time
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00077-00015944-00016247 was anything but warm and fuzzy that's
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00078-00016247-00016415 it for now thank you for watching
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00079-00016416-00017656 please subscribe to stay tuned
+x1H8ZVLd-Ao-00080-00017657-00018269 [Music]
+x4136PHK3qQ-00000-00000256-00000415 hi and welcome to access chat we're
+x4136PHK3qQ-00001-00000416-00000719 delighted to welcome carolyn gerrig
+x4136PHK3qQ-00002-00000720-00000871 who is the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00003-00000872-00001119 founder of hospital glam which is a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00004-00001120-00001391 social movement based on
+x4136PHK3qQ-00005-00001392-00001503 and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00006-00001504-00001582 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00007-00001583-00001895 selfies taking uh back the clinical
+x4136PHK3qQ-00008-00001896-00002167 space i think it's a brilliant project
+x4136PHK3qQ-00009-00002168-00002359 i absolutely fell in love with the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00010-00002360-00002599 concert when i saw the photos
+x4136PHK3qQ-00011-00002600-00002823 carolyn you've recently spoken at
+x4136PHK3qQ-00012-00002824-00003158 stanford medics so welcome can you tell
+x4136PHK3qQ-00013-00003159-00003335 us a little bit more about
+x4136PHK3qQ-00014-00003336-00003599 what inspired you and and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00015-00003600-00003831 what brought about this fantastic
+x4136PHK3qQ-00016-00003832-00003943 project
+x4136PHK3qQ-00017-00003944-00004119 sure um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00018-00004120-00004263 uh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00019-00004264-00004502 so i was diagnosed with ehlers-danlos
+x4136PHK3qQ-00020-00004503-00004847 syndrome in 2003 and then around 2006 i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00021-00004848-00005286 got involved with um the new york city
+x4136PHK3qQ-00022-00005287-00005406 eds
+x4136PHK3qQ-00023-00005407-00005495 group
+x4136PHK3qQ-00024-00005496-00005767 and then we changed the name to eds nyc
+x4136PHK3qQ-00025-00005768-00005886 and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00026-00005887-00006006 i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00027-00006007-00006263 worked with them until 2010
+x4136PHK3qQ-00028-00006264-00006431 at which point i moved to los angeles
+x4136PHK3qQ-00029-00006431-00006614 and then i've been kicking around los
+x4136PHK3qQ-00030-00006615-00006895 angeles for a couple of years and i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00031-00006895-00007198 have gotten sicker in that time
+x4136PHK3qQ-00032-00007200-00007583 ehlers-danlos syndrome is a progressive
+x4136PHK3qQ-00033-00007584-00007791 connective tissue disorder and it's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00034-00007792-00008014 progressive because
+x4136PHK3qQ-00035-00008015-00008183 time moves forward
+x4136PHK3qQ-00036-00008184-00008463 and ravages us all in
+x4136PHK3qQ-00037-00008464-00008646 sort of uh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00038-00008647-00008878 you know the ways it ravages even
+x4136PHK3qQ-00039-00008879-00009135 healthy people um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00040-00009136-00009374 so uh in the last year or so i had
+x4136PHK3qQ-00041-00009375-00009606 gotten sicker um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00042-00009607-00009727 and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00043-00009728-00009910 i knew that i would be in doctor's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00044-00009911-00010231 offices more often than i had been in
+x4136PHK3qQ-00045-00010232-00010351 the past
+x4136PHK3qQ-00046-00010352-00010535 and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00047-00010536-00010806 usually i go to the doctors alone
+x4136PHK3qQ-00048-00010807-00011071 so i wanted to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00049-00011072-00011283 show that i could
+x4136PHK3qQ-00050-00011284-00011783 um be in a doctor's office and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00051-00011784-00012110 kind of be there for myself and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00052-00012111-00012374 support myself there in that way
+x4136PHK3qQ-00053-00012375-00012646 still represent myself on social media
+x4136PHK3qQ-00054-00012647-00012855 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00055-00012856-00013086 as like having a normal life because
+x4136PHK3qQ-00056-00013087-00013343 this is a normal life it's just a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00057-00013344-00013503 different kind of normal there are so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00058-00013504-00013791 many people who are sick and where this
+x4136PHK3qQ-00059-00013791-00014143 is a part of our daily lives um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00060-00014144-00014391 and i i don't think it's any less valid
+x4136PHK3qQ-00061-00014391-00014471 than
+x4136PHK3qQ-00062-00014472-00014735 um i don't know people who have children
+x4136PHK3qQ-00063-00014736-00014903 or people who
+x4136PHK3qQ-00064-00014904-00015007 uh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00065-00015008-00015294 have normal office jobs or
+x4136PHK3qQ-00066-00015295-00015527 anything like that you know um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00067-00015528-00015807 so while other people are taking selfies
+x4136PHK3qQ-00068-00015808-00016030 at starbucks i started taking
+x4136PHK3qQ-00069-00016031-00016327 self-portraits in the doctor's offices
+x4136PHK3qQ-00070-00016328-00016471 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00071-00016472-00016686 initially i had taken some point of view
+x4136PHK3qQ-00072-00016687-00016863 shots but then i realized that that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00073-00016864-00017207 asked the viewer of these
+x4136PHK3qQ-00074-00017208-00017639 photos to look through my eyes and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00075-00017640-00018103 when an able-bodied person looks
+x4136PHK3qQ-00076-00018104-00018383 looks at a hospital setting like through
+x4136PHK3qQ-00077-00018384-00018583 someone's eyes they just think injury
+x4136PHK3qQ-00078-00018584-00018711 and they think pain and they think
+x4136PHK3qQ-00079-00018712-00018886 illness and there's no way to normalize
+x4136PHK3qQ-00080-00018887-00019014 it for them and there's no way for them
+x4136PHK3qQ-00081-00019015-00019199 to think like oh okay well this is a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00082-00019200-00019358 regular routine and this is just
+x4136PHK3qQ-00083-00019359-00019486 something that they
+x4136PHK3qQ-00084-00019487-00019671 are going through
+x4136PHK3qQ-00085-00019672-00019879 um and this is okay for this other
+x4136PHK3qQ-00086-00019880-00020143 person and i wanted to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00087-00020144-00020447 force a viewpoint and i wanted them to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00088-00020448-00020727 look at me and realize that um this was
+x4136PHK3qQ-00089-00020728-00020935 a part of my life and that this is this
+x4136PHK3qQ-00090-00020936-00021239 is okay for me or i mean not okay okay
+x4136PHK3qQ-00091-00021240-00021407 i'm still sick and i'm still dealing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00092-00021408-00021671 with stuff but as okay as it's going to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00093-00021672-00021758 be
+x4136PHK3qQ-00094-00021759-00021975 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00095-00021976-00022278 i also at the same time uh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00096-00022279-00022599 i'm a feminist and i have an ongoing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00097-00022600-00022767 issue with
+x4136PHK3qQ-00098-00022768-00023175 the way women are positioned in media
+x4136PHK3qQ-00099-00023176-00023383 and so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00100-00023384-00023671 i was looking at a lot of ads and a lot
+x4136PHK3qQ-00101-00023672-00023758 of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00102-00023759-00024071 the magazines in waiting rooms and ads
+x4136PHK3qQ-00103-00024072-00024247 on billboards etc
+x4136PHK3qQ-00104-00024248-00024494 and i would see these
+x4136PHK3qQ-00105-00024495-00024711 images of women
+x4136PHK3qQ-00106-00024712-00024919 with their bodies positioned in kind of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00107-00024920-00025063 like sick
+x4136PHK3qQ-00108-00025064-00025263 ways where on their shoulders were
+x4136PHK3qQ-00109-00025264-00025422 slumped forwards or they were slumped
+x4136PHK3qQ-00110-00025423-00025750 off to the sides and they just looked
+x4136PHK3qQ-00111-00025751-00025911 sick and i'm not talking about body
+x4136PHK3qQ-00112-00025912-00026118 frame i'm not talking about
+x4136PHK3qQ-00113-00026119-00026270 low weights i'm not talking about that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00114-00026272-00026455 i'm just talking purely about
+x4136PHK3qQ-00115-00026456-00026683 positioning
+x4136PHK3qQ-00116-00026683-00027007 um and i thought
+x4136PHK3qQ-00117-00027008-00027183 how strange it was that these are the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00118-00027183-00027383 same images that were being used to sell
+x4136PHK3qQ-00119-00027383-00027511 us
+x4136PHK3qQ-00120-00027512-00027814 good health and wellness and like
+x4136PHK3qQ-00121-00027816-00028118 these um these ideas that like health
+x4136PHK3qQ-00122-00028119-00028343 and wellness would
+x4136PHK3qQ-00123-00028344-00028623 were sexy and would bring you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00124-00028624-00028774 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00125-00028775-00029062 like were equated with wealth um so i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00126-00029063-00029358 thought that by using my actual disabled
+x4136PHK3qQ-00127-00029360-00029751 body and posing it in similar ways um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00128-00029752-00029974 and in reinserting it in a clinical
+x4136PHK3qQ-00129-00029975-00030102 environment
+x4136PHK3qQ-00130-00030103-00030374 that might be interesting
+x4136PHK3qQ-00131-00030375-00030607 um so i brought that in as well and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00132-00030608-00030758 started posting
+x4136PHK3qQ-00133-00030760-00031039 those online and eventually uh after
+x4136PHK3qQ-00134-00031039-00031190 like eight or nine months of those i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00135-00031191-00031487 aggregated them onto a single website i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00136-00031488-00031670 had been posting them on twitter and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00137-00031672-00031927 instagram and facebook for in the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00138-00031927-00032199 interim period um but once i aggregated
+x4136PHK3qQ-00139-00032200-00032455 them onto a single site
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00141-00032824-00032911 and
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00143-00033160-00033239 which
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00148-00034375-00034495 yeah
+x4136PHK3qQ-00149-00034496-00034743 yeah so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00150-00034744-00034895 and i actually came
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00153-00035328-00035646 on on the hashtag uh yeah heather yeah
+x4136PHK3qQ-00154-00035647-00035839 and she's fantastic i love mortuary
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00156-00035928-00036127 yeah she's great um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00157-00036128-00036262 but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00158-00036263-00036471 but i really you know i i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00159-00036472-00036671 i had to dive deeper straight away it
+x4136PHK3qQ-00160-00036672-00036830 was something that that struck a chord
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00163-00037352-00037599 both have a obviously deeply artistic
+x4136PHK3qQ-00164-00037600-00037846 ben because you the way that you pose
+x4136PHK3qQ-00165-00037847-00038223 the the photos is very cleverly composed
+x4136PHK3qQ-00166-00038224-00038495 there are you know artfully shot um but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00167-00038496-00038671 at the same time you know you're you're
+x4136PHK3qQ-00168-00038672-00038999 inverting the normality of or or sorry
+x4136PHK3qQ-00169-00039000-00039262 inverting the or
+x4136PHK3qQ-00170-00039263-00039583 rewind subverting the the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00171-00039584-00039743 the way that it would be done if it was
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00173-00039936-00040183 injecting that your day-to-day normality
+x4136PHK3qQ-00174-00040184-00040430 which i think is right you know we
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00181-00041600-00041679 um
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00183-00041959-00042230 it's fantastic what what you are doing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00184-00042231-00042471 so far you you know you're
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00188-00043536-00044030 i've lost you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00189-00044031-00044158 okay
+x4136PHK3qQ-00190-00044159-00044335 okay so um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00191-00044336-00044599 you know it's great i'm i'm really you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00192-00044600-00044855 know excited with what you're doing i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00193-00044856-00044990 think that more people should be doing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00194-00044991-00045215 this so you know we want you know
+x4136PHK3qQ-00195-00045216-00045423 to encourage people draw attention to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00196-00045424-00045662 the movement that you're creating
+x4136PHK3qQ-00197-00045663-00045807 but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00198-00045808-00046079 i know that you're interested in how you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00199-00046080-00046279 can create an online community but also
+x4136PHK3qQ-00200-00046280-00046479 bring that
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00202-00046647-00046862 because that's something that that i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00203-00046863-00046958 think is
+x4136PHK3qQ-00204-00046959-00047046 is
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00207-00047408-00047702 yeah um i feel like that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00208-00047703-00047855 work straight into accessibility
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00230-00052544-00052703 because it's
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00262-00059551-00059815 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00263-00059816-00059975 i
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00267-00060855-00060950 don't
+x4136PHK3qQ-00268-00060951-00061142 i never really have a problem because i
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00290-00065479-00065575 i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00291-00065576-00065759 go into appointments and
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00293-00065872-00065950 what
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00312-00069488-00069806 than than the cure because you know that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00313-00069807-00069999 right no it's not a cure so you're
+x4136PHK3qQ-00314-00070000-00070199 wanting you know effective stuff to help
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00317-00070800-00070943 also want
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00319-00071136-00071319 i also want under
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00329-00073136-00073535 but you know like progressing um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00330-00073536-00073750 i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00331-00073751-00073911 yeah it
+x4136PHK3qQ-00332-00073912-00073999 it's
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00337-00074688-00074911 that that's pretty much it yeah and also
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00339-00075183-00075359 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00340-00075360-00075550 yeah yeah i tend to have good
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00342-00075751-00075926 understand you know i understand that
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00345-00076336-00076535 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00346-00076536-00076750 not know but i hope that they understand
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00349-00077136-00077406 not-so-great experiences where i've met
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00352-00077968-00078079 um
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00356-00078656-00079015 and oh i'm kicking off my blankets um
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00358-00079360-00079511 uh
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00368-00081312-00081815 and i think if i had a more simple
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00370-00082056-00082287 maybe engage with them further but i i
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00378-00084151-00084406 what is missing for them to to be able
+x4136PHK3qQ-00379-00084407-00084687 to you know somebody as young to medical
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00381-00084951-00085031 say
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00383-00085319-00085567 well i think they're just overwhelmed at
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00391-00087551-00087743 at all for knowing
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00393-00087904-00088150 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00394-00088151-00088375 i i've got friends with long-term
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00396-00088616-00088862 where they have illnesses that are quite
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00400-00089327-00089431 they're seeing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00401-00089432-00089631 yeah they can't prescribe for themselves
+x4136PHK3qQ-00402-00089632-00089903 so a lot of the time yeah it requires
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00408-00091056-00091279 dealing with the conditions you
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00410-00091456-00091743 body far better right i i think it's
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00412-00092024-00092199 for some of the doctors i think it's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00413-00092200-00092447 unfortunate that i know that and don't
+x4136PHK3qQ-00414-00092448-00092599 question that i think for some of the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00415-00092600-00092847 younger doctors that's unfortunate
+x4136PHK3qQ-00416-00092848-00093015 but um i don't know maybe it's a
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00418-00093272-00093591 i don't go back to them
+x4136PHK3qQ-00419-00093592-00093967 no i think everyone needs to to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00420-00093968-00094271 self-advocate uh self-advocate yeah
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00424-00094944-00095118 speak on our behalf and they'll make
+x4136PHK3qQ-00425-00095119-00095335 assumptions that are incorrect i know
+x4136PHK3qQ-00426-00095336-00095591 deborah is trying to join us i think
+x4136PHK3qQ-00427-00095592-00095767 she's joined us by phone she's having a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00428-00095768-00095926 few technical issues might be due to the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00429-00095927-00096111 hurricane i think the best way for
+x4136PHK3qQ-00430-00096112-00096287 deborah is to write the question and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00431-00096288-00096535 then you'll ask a question for her
+x4136PHK3qQ-00432-00096536-00096638 okay
+x4136PHK3qQ-00433-00096639-00096887 can y'all hear me if i talk okay all
+x4136PHK3qQ-00434-00096888-00096991 right
+x4136PHK3qQ-00435-00096992-00097391 all right good so you know i i think
+x4136PHK3qQ-00436-00097392-00097638 i applaud what you're doing i i think
+x4136PHK3qQ-00437-00097639-00097911 it's so important and and i didn't know
+x4136PHK3qQ-00438-00097912-00098206 about it and so now that i know i want
+x4136PHK3qQ-00439-00098207-00098382 to help so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00440-00098383-00098494 but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00441-00098495-00098759 i have a i have a a woman that works
+x4136PHK3qQ-00442-00098760-00099023 with me her name is rosemary mustachio
+x4136PHK3qQ-00443-00099024-00099215 and rosemary was born with cerebral
+x4136PHK3qQ-00444-00099216-00099415 palsy and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00445-00099416-00099726 rosemary cannot communicate in the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00446-00099727-00100150 traditional way and so she um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00447-00100151-00100367 she she has said to me that when she
+x4136PHK3qQ-00448-00100368-00100623 lies down all she can do is blink her
+x4136PHK3qQ-00449-00100624-00100838 eyes that's you know that the amount of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00450-00100839-00101103 control she has over her body but she is
+x4136PHK3qQ-00451-00101104-00101423 this brilliant beautiful woman that just
+x4136PHK3qQ-00452-00101424-00101599 she's a master's degree she has
+x4136PHK3qQ-00453-00101600-00101806 accomplished a lot in her lifetime but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00454-00101807-00102062 when she has had to go multiple times in
+x4136PHK3qQ-00455-00102063-00102199 the hospital
+x4136PHK3qQ-00456-00102200-00102478 she's treated like she's a vegetable and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00457-00102479-00102766 she she's just and she's often treated
+x4136PHK3qQ-00458-00102767-00102958 that way in society too when she's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00459-00102959-00103206 traveling with her mother people they
+x4136PHK3qQ-00460-00103207-00103471 don't see her and it's it's not it's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00461-00103472-00103694 almost like they're they're afraid of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00462-00103695-00103847 her and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00463-00103848-00104118 so i think the work you're doing is so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00464-00104119-00104358 brilliant because
+x4136PHK3qQ-00465-00104359-00104606 recently walking some illness path with
+x4136PHK3qQ-00466-00104607-00104766 my mother
+x4136PHK3qQ-00467-00104767-00105023 it's amazing how they don't see her as a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00468-00105024-00105327 person they see her as a symptom
+x4136PHK3qQ-00469-00105328-00105447 and so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00470-00105448-00105695 and and they it seems like she loses all
+x4136PHK3qQ-00471-00105696-00106023 of her civil rights uh we recently went
+x4136PHK3qQ-00472-00106024-00106278 into a doctor's office because she's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00473-00106279-00106510 bleeding behind her eyes and i was just
+x4136PHK3qQ-00474-00106511-00106695 so shocked at the way
+x4136PHK3qQ-00475-00106696-00106919 they treated her and everybody around
+x4136PHK3qQ-00476-00106920-00107166 her and i i could tell they're
+x4136PHK3qQ-00477-00107167-00107431 they're they're diligent loving amazing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00478-00107432-00107686 people but they don't see her
+x4136PHK3qQ-00479-00107688-00108078 as an entire person they see the symptom
+x4136PHK3qQ-00480-00108079-00108415 or or the condition and so i um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00481-00108416-00108558 gosh the work you're doing is so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00482-00108559-00108815 important it's just so important because
+x4136PHK3qQ-00483-00108816-00109039 if we can see you as an individual as a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00484-00109040-00109166 person
+x4136PHK3qQ-00485-00109167-00109271 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00486-00109272-00109495 you know and like i thought it was such
+x4136PHK3qQ-00487-00109496-00109734 a powerful thing that you said earlier
+x4136PHK3qQ-00488-00109735-00109823 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00489-00109824-00110063 your life is normal you know who's to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00490-00110064-00110263 say my life is more normal than your
+x4136PHK3qQ-00491-00110264-00110519 life your life is normal it's your life
+x4136PHK3qQ-00492-00110520-00110790 so i i just think i i almost i don't
+x4136PHK3qQ-00493-00110791-00111086 have a question i'm just i'm i'm just
+x4136PHK3qQ-00494-00111088-00111295 i'm just really really appreciative of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00495-00111296-00111566 the work you're doing because it
+x4136PHK3qQ-00496-00111567-00111878 this is what we need to really change
+x4136PHK3qQ-00497-00111879-00112047 people's perspective on what does it
+x4136PHK3qQ-00498-00112048-00112351 mean to be a human being so i i really
+x4136PHK3qQ-00499-00112352-00112615 applaud you and i'm so glad neil invited
+x4136PHK3qQ-00500-00112616-00112847 you be on access chat but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00501-00112848-00113078 we want to help we i know all three of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00502-00113079-00113358 us are very involved in social media but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00503-00113359-00113527 i'm very impressed with what you're
+x4136PHK3qQ-00504-00113528-00113719 doing thank you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00505-00113720-00113871 um i think
+x4136PHK3qQ-00506-00113872-00113951 uh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00507-00113952-00114183 doing hospital glam like the actual act
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00509-00114335-00114590 extremely powerful for me from day one i
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00513-00115232-00115471 taking the photographs of myself
+x4136PHK3qQ-00514-00115472-00115734 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00515-00115735-00115854 felt
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00517-00116120-00116283 because putting
+x4136PHK3qQ-00518-00116283-00116615 i i use a self timer on my phone and i
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00522-00117320-00117590 i'm holding my um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00523-00117591-00117702 my
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00526-00118279-00118566 where i can move in here um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00527-00118567-00118734 i would set up a frame similar to that
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00532-00119816-00120110 um not being able to look into
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00540-00121472-00121551 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00541-00121552-00121839 it made me feel like
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00543-00122064-00122319 um it also made me more aware of my body
+x4136PHK3qQ-00544-00122320-00122527 and it made me able to think of like
+x4136PHK3qQ-00545-00122528-00122671 okay these are the things that i want to
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00549-00123176-00123295 and then
+x4136PHK3qQ-00550-00123296-00123502 my doctor would walk in and i would
+x4136PHK3qQ-00551-00123503-00123710 either grab the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00552-00123711-00123854 i would either just grab my phone and
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00557-00124552-00124783 you know just like laugh about it for a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00558-00124783-00124983 second and then the appointment goes on
+x4136PHK3qQ-00559-00124983-00125071 but
+x4136PHK3qQ-00560-00125072-00125375 then i would be ready and i'd be
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00562-00125528-00125710 feel like i was on their level because
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00567-00126520-00126671 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00568-00126672-00126871 and that's like that's a powerful thing
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00570-00127159-00127390 they're they're designed for us to be in
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00572-00127559-00127854 we're not really in them um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00573-00127855-00128039 like we move through them and like we
+x4136PHK3qQ-00574-00128040-00128263 sit in a corner and we go like okay are
+x4136PHK3qQ-00575-00128264-00128454 we allowed to touch that oh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00576-00128455-00128566 i really want to blow my nose and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00577-00128567-00128727 there's a tissue box over there is it
+x4136PHK3qQ-00578-00128728-00128951 okay if i do that and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00579-00128952-00129263 i mean it's it's there to be used but we
+x4136PHK3qQ-00580-00129264-00129439 like
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00582-00129576-00129854 for us so just taking up that space on
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00584-00130079-00130407 it feels good
+x4136PHK3qQ-00585-00130408-00130558 i don't know it just makes a really big
+x4136PHK3qQ-00586-00130559-00130871 difference yeah so
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00589-00131312-00131471 really
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00593-00132279-00132535 around hospital glam because there's a
+x4136PHK3qQ-00594-00132536-00132839 lot of people posting now and even some
+x4136PHK3qQ-00595-00132840-00133031 guys as well
+x4136PHK3qQ-00596-00133032-00133351 there's a few uh a few brave souls um so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00597-00133352-00133654 how do we take that advocacy work that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00598-00133655-00133887 each that you're doing and each person
+x4136PHK3qQ-00599-00133888-00133990 that's posting because they're all
+x4136PHK3qQ-00600-00133991-00134263 advocates because they're all braving uh
+x4136PHK3qQ-00601-00134264-00134559 putting their images out there how do we
+x4136PHK3qQ-00602-00134560-00134839 maximize the potential of what they're
+x4136PHK3qQ-00603-00134840-00135166 doing to to try and turn stuff around
+x4136PHK3qQ-00604-00135167-00135287 what do you think
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00606-00135512-00135766 well i think it's still i think that is
+x4136PHK3qQ-00607-00135767-00136039 still in its infancy um in a lot of ways
+x4136PHK3qQ-00608-00136040-00136214 because as you've said it is only a
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00611-00136528-00136695 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00612-00136696-00136927 there's still some confusion about what
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00617-00137767-00137935 it's not it's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00618-00137936-00138223 i still applaud people
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00621-00138544-00138687 really important and i think if you can
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00625-00139328-00139535 are throughout your stay
+x4136PHK3qQ-00626-00139536-00139783 and that gives you power
+x4136PHK3qQ-00627-00139784-00139959 good i think anything that makes you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00628-00139960-00140175 feel more powerful and better able to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00629-00140176-00140471 advocate for yourself cool um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00630-00140472-00140671 and i i don't want to take that away
+x4136PHK3qQ-00631-00140672-00140983 from anybody and i don't want to like
+x4136PHK3qQ-00632-00140984-00141223 i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00633-00141224-00141502 i still think that that's valid so um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00634-00141503-00141807 cool um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00635-00141808-00141927 i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00636-00141928-00142190 think that we can advance it with men um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00637-00142191-00142447 and uh break down i guess the idea of
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00639-00142664-00143039 like no frailty um i i've noticed that a
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00641-00143136-00143295 participating in the in the project are
+x4136PHK3qQ-00642-00143296-00143607 queer um which makes sense to me because
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00646-00144264-00144502 times
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00648-00144664-00144911 think it's hard for men to to say
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00651-00145408-00145663 to the world i think it's i think it's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00652-00145664-00145951 really hard um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00653-00145952-00146126 yeah i i think you know
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00657-00146944-00147143 the hunter-gatherer provider and all of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00658-00147144-00147383 this kind of bs
+x4136PHK3qQ-00659-00147384-00147471 which
+x4136PHK3qQ-00660-00147472-00147663 you know inside is
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00663-00148127-00148302 up to that expectation i think it's
+x4136PHK3qQ-00664-00148303-00148447 actually
+x4136PHK3qQ-00665-00148448-00148566 um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00666-00148567-00148831 probably eating people up inside i know
+x4136PHK3qQ-00667-00148832-00148943 that yeah
+x4136PHK3qQ-00668-00148944-00149159 that actually when
+x4136PHK3qQ-00669-00149160-00149414 i finally sort of
+x4136PHK3qQ-00670-00149415-00149566 succumbed and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00671-00149567-00149847 had my diagnosis of dyslexia and stuff
+x4136PHK3qQ-00672-00149848-00149959 like that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00673-00149960-00150335 i cried for quite a long time
+x4136PHK3qQ-00674-00150336-00150575 because it's so suddenly everything made
+x4136PHK3qQ-00675-00150576-00150902 sense and actually understood um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00676-00150903-00151054 why things
+x4136PHK3qQ-00677-00151055-00151271 were the way they were
+x4136PHK3qQ-00678-00151272-00151614 and actually now i spend a lot of time
+x4136PHK3qQ-00679-00151615-00151823 actually being very openly dyslexic i've
+x4136PHK3qQ-00680-00151824-00152143 come out i am about my neurodiversity i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00681-00152144-00152311 believe other people should too because
+x4136PHK3qQ-00682-00152312-00152454 it has a hidden
+x4136PHK3qQ-00683-00152455-00152683 disability and it's not a physical one
+x4136PHK3qQ-00684-00152684-00153023 um but it has effects on on the way you
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00687-00153576-00153799 people get to understand that you are
+x4136PHK3qQ-00688-00153800-00154007 different not less
+x4136PHK3qQ-00689-00154008-00154159 right exactly
+x4136PHK3qQ-00690-00154160-00154351 um and i
+x4136PHK3qQ-00691-00154352-00154583 i think that
+x4136PHK3qQ-00692-00154584-00154759 yeah i think that it
+x4136PHK3qQ-00693-00154760-00155054 i think that it's harder on
+x4136PHK3qQ-00694-00155055-00155254 men i think that disability isn't a lot
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00696-00155448-00155663 ways in which women are socialized
+x4136PHK3qQ-00697-00155664-00155943 um and i think that it we have to find a
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00699-00156152-00156439 i don't know for men to
+x4136PHK3qQ-00700-00156440-00156639 like let go and
+x4136PHK3qQ-00701-00156640-00156863 handle their disabilities hey we're not
+x4136PHK3qQ-00702-00156864-00157063 even making a point well the doctors
+x4136PHK3qQ-00703-00157064-00157351 because we we
+x4136PHK3qQ-00704-00157352-00157511 we're much less prone to go to the
+x4136PHK3qQ-00705-00157512-00157678 doctors because we'll wait until a bit
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00707-00158224-00158423 i can tell you stories about having
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00709-00158615-00158759 by my friend
+x4136PHK3qQ-00710-00158760-00158983 to go to the er because i didn't i just
+x4136PHK3qQ-00711-00158984-00159295 didn't want to go and i thought like
+x4136PHK3qQ-00712-00159296-00159478 they can find my body like i can die
+x4136PHK3qQ-00713-00159479-00159671 here that's that's okay like maybe this
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00740-00165288-00165447 hmm
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00745-00166448-00166711 absolutely and there are you know i i'm
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00780-00174552-00174743 no i'm not you know i've done
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00785-00175639-00175831 yeah because actually you know what i'm
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00793-00177336-00177614 happy to to be a fellow non-conformist
+x4136PHK3qQ-00794-00177615-00177847 um so tell us about your bright yellow
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00799-00178455-00178638 oh yeah um so
+x4136PHK3qQ-00800-00178639-00178766 uh
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00830-00185672-00185823 um
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00887-00197544-00197726 yeah when you're taking the moody shots
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00893-00198903-00199183 oh but even um so for anybody who's
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00916-00203936-00204135 and then that's a good first step yeah
+x4136PHK3qQ-00917-00204136-00204495 no i i agree um
+x4136PHK3qQ-00918-00204496-00204750 i i personally have support groups and
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00927-00206671-00206879 as well i think that's that's something
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+x4136PHK3qQ-00931-00207535-00207782 once again thank you very much carolyn
+x4136PHK3qQ-00932-00207783-00208031 um it's been great chatting with you
+x4136PHK3qQ-00933-00208032-00208206 thank you yes thank you carolyn thank
+x4136PHK3qQ-00934-00208207-00208431 you so much for what you're doing
+x4136PHK3qQ-00935-00208432-00208756 thank you
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00013-00003603-00003890 taking an invisible shower singing God
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00020-00006603-00008225 yeah take that right I'll shows that
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00029-00015644-00015890 nothing much Mac just on you know
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00031-00016128-00016244 Oh sounds fun
+xy2xaFOxLt0-00032-00016244-00016526 John John yeah sure why not don't do
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00035-00018411-00018788 oh my god Mac who's that yeah it's just
+xy2xaFOxLt0-00036-00018789-00019013 a fog I need to be scared Bernie
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00048-00022988-00023342 Mac Bernie there's something I need to
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00055-00025417-00025641 Mac Mac don't say that don't say that
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+xy2xaFOxLt0-00057-00026344-00028502 Oh user back Oh almost done here
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+x-bi6tATDp4-00058-00029164-00029650 yeah nice day with my food lovely people
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00053-00024323-00024518 yeah thanks I'm gonna cross out right
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00059-00026338-00026773 Michael are solitary here but I don't
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00070-00030101-00030396 years I never seen the Sun its satin
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00125-00047787-00048166 well I sent her a letter she conned
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00141-00053735-00054028 yeah all the street okay I had a letter
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00157-00060645-00060973 you know we have been removing sediment
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00159-00061651-00061948 when the last time you did it we clean
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00162-00064274-00064516 okay you're gonna get into the EPA you
+xBaRtBGfX80-00163-00064516-00064707 never cracks me up about that they don't
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00167-00065530-00065746 wildlife that lives there okay and then
+xBaRtBGfX80-00168-00065747-00065950 wanna throw go you can't clean the water
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00177-00068192-00068554 okay and I'm sure I am the only one that
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00267-00101917-00102997 Berkshire and Anderson
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00274-00105613-00106057 ordinance number one motion of the
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00276-00106216-00106578 11,000 inordinate setting the police
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00287-00109041-00109610 so the Henderson Chris Keller Gucci all
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00297-00115921-00116253 resolution number 2017 - 1 3
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00304-00118310-00120085 second and
+xBaRtBGfX80-00305-00120086-00120665 [Music]
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00384-00147643-00147738 community yeah
+xBaRtBGfX80-00385-00147739-00147948 thank you for healing the community and
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00395-00150634-00150708 yes
+xBaRtBGfX80-00396-00150709-00150888 yeah we're very nephrite knows we're
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00463-00182769-00183065 I don't think anybody else is gonna read
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00469-00184329-00184805 no maybe we should say yes let's be on
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00478-00188563-00188808 say no and you have one job to do it if
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00490-00193383-00195786 [Music]
+xBaRtBGfX80-00491-00195787-00196143 motion from our cherry is there a second
+xBaRtBGfX80-00492-00196144-00196717 and risk a Gucci second all those in
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00494-00197314-00198189 so it seems tell me or 2018 being
+xBaRtBGfX80-00495-00198190-00198463 advertisement motion Borough Council
+xBaRtBGfX80-00496-00198464-00198583 approving the advertisement the
+xBaRtBGfX80-00497-00198584-00198784 following meeting dates for calendar
+xBaRtBGfX80-00498-00198785-00199147 year 2018 and advertised the same the
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00520-00208932-00209266 month okay
+xBaRtBGfX80-00521-00209267-00209571 Kenny please instruct them to actually
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00526-00210900-00211142 Commission John cans there wasn't
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00543-00215661-00215964 Commission because that has not solved
+xBaRtBGfX80-00544-00215965-00216098 the problem mr. president
+xBaRtBGfX80-00545-00216099-00217287 you all so I just
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00547-00217465-00220251 it's not I feel really strong Curtis at
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00554-00223354-00223977 calavicci favor
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00560-00226817-00226952 favor
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00564-00232044-00233571 [Music]
+xBaRtBGfX80-00565-00233573-00233936 thank for administrative Department this
+xBaRtBGfX80-00566-00233937-00234692 past year Merry Christmas deal financier
+xBaRtBGfX80-00567-00234692-00235042 is not here he has a bit of emergency
+xBaRtBGfX80-00568-00235044-00235771 with family Parks and Rec nothing really
+xBaRtBGfX80-00569-00235773-00235958 just want to thank everybody that was
+xBaRtBGfX80-00570-00235959-00236291 involved and uh I can't thank you
+xBaRtBGfX80-00571-00236292-00236992 whether we call it these days
+xBaRtBGfX80-00572-00236992-00237571 thank you it works Bruce other than
+xBaRtBGfX80-00573-00237573-00237800 thanking them all so Joe probably works
+xBaRtBGfX80-00574-00237801-00237973 for doing the lighting and all that
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00576-00238309-00238630 they've been doing it's been been
+xBaRtBGfX80-00577-00238631-00239191 constantly down guys also thanked him
+xBaRtBGfX80-00578-00239192-00239817 for their year so it was Christmas
+xBaRtBGfX80-00579-00239817-00240269 Public Safety Building Mike would bet
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00583-00240932-00241221 just rake it out but there's a couple
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00585-00241561-00241767 other thing I just like to thank the
+xBaRtBGfX80-00586-00241769-00241921 mayor for the last four years of
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00588-00242134-00243505 police department appreciate it some
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00592-00245138-00245389 property owners to invest and live in
+xBaRtBGfX80-00593-00245390-00245665 our community Ridgeville will benefit
+xBaRtBGfX80-00594-00245666-00246006 from the research effort and courage
+xBaRtBGfX80-00595-00246007-00246282 shown by council and the professionals
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00597-00246515-00246735 structure and i would like to say a very
+xBaRtBGfX80-00598-00246736-00248157 time thank you - Councilwoman Mary wise
+xBaRtBGfX80-00599-00248158-00248425 well the new tax structure is positive
+xBaRtBGfX80-00600-00248426-00248821 raising taxes is not we already pay more
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00602-00248990-00249246 neighbors the taxes and spending should
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+xBaRtBGfX80-00604-00249353-00249778 not even please the issues are
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00016-00003407-00003583 while you're you're recorded now so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00017-00003584-00003790 you can you practice the pitch before
+xGR0ubiQU60-00018-00003792-00004079 you can do it better now
+xGR0ubiQU60-00019-00004079-00004254 paul foster i'm with bounties and my
+xGR0ubiQU60-00020-00004255-00004735 pitch is no better
+xGR0ubiQU60-00021-00004736-00004999 ralph you want to say say say hello and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00022-00005000-00005063 where you are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00023-00005064-00005406 and stuff uh hi i'm ralph
+xGR0ubiQU60-00024-00005407-00005791 from germany i am in content strategy
+xGR0ubiQU60-00025-00005792-00005991 and yeah well
+xGR0ubiQU60-00026-00005992-00006270 using details for a while now and you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00027-00006271-00006406 still have a very old mac
+xGR0ubiQU60-00028-00006408-00006767 right yep congratulations
+xGR0ubiQU60-00029-00006768-00006938 thanks to apple
+xGR0ubiQU60-00030-00006939-00007119 [Laughter]
+xGR0ubiQU60-00031-00007120-00007574 still unable to buy a new one okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-00032-00007575-00007798 amy june everybody knows you but you can
+xGR0ubiQU60-00033-00007800-00007927 still introduce yourself
+xGR0ubiQU60-00034-00007928-00008246 not everyone knows me but amy june i am
+xGR0ubiQU60-00035-00008247-00008510 a community person for canopy studios
+xGR0ubiQU60-00036-00008511-00008703 i'm also their qa engineer
+xGR0ubiQU60-00037-00008704-00009103 and um i like to come to these because i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00038-00009104-00009246 work in the community
+xGR0ubiQU60-00039-00009247-00009567 so i use all environments
+xGR0ubiQU60-00040-00009568-00009839 and i'm always like curious what's new
+xGR0ubiQU60-00041-00009840-00009999 because i'm not a developer but i still
+xGR0ubiQU60-00042-00010000-00010159 need to like have an environment on my
+xGR0ubiQU60-00043-00010160-00010351 machine so i like to come to these just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00044-00010352-00010503 to hear the words and what people are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00045-00010504-00010583 doing and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00046-00010584-00010735 what solutions people have because i'm
+xGR0ubiQU60-00047-00010736-00010967 also a mentor and i don't set up local
+xGR0ubiQU60-00048-00010968-00011271 machines and i send them to randy so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00049-00011272-00011646 that's why i'm here today
+xGR0ubiQU60-00050-00011647-00011846 thank you leslie you want to introduce
+xGR0ubiQU60-00051-00011847-00011974 yourself
+xGR0ubiQU60-00052-00011975-00012142 sure i'm leslie glenn from boston
+xGR0ubiQU60-00053-00012143-00012310 massachusetts
+xGR0ubiQU60-00054-00012311-00012614 i've used ddev sprint as a sprint
+xGR0ubiQU60-00055-00012615-00013063 mentor before at several drupalcons
+xGR0ubiQU60-00056-00013063-00013222 so thank you randy it's always great it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00057-00013223-00013511 always works great so i appreciate that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00058-00013512-00013766 i am not devops at all the company i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00059-00013768-00013958 work with right now redfin solutions up
+xGR0ubiQU60-00060-00013959-00014094 in maine
+xGR0ubiQU60-00061-00014095-00014591 has a homegrown vm with it on on docker
+xGR0ubiQU60-00062-00014591-00014719 so i just wanted to listen in and see
+xGR0ubiQU60-00063-00014719-00014935 what's new with ddev local
+xGR0ubiQU60-00064-00014936-00015175 excellent great to great to have you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00065-00015176-00015375 leslie was referring to the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00066-00015376-00015615 quick sprint package that has deed of in
+xGR0ubiQU60-00067-00015616-00015719 it and it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00068-00015719-00015943 it was actually developed for in-person
+xGR0ubiQU60-00069-00015944-00016094 type things
+xGR0ubiQU60-00070-00016095-00016399 but what it does is it packages up uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00071-00016400-00016647 ddev and everything it needs it all at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00072-00016648-00016767 once
+xGR0ubiQU60-00073-00016768-00016991 so that at a conference you can have it
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00075-00017104-00017407 or it can be distributed there and it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00076-00017408-00017775 also gets um drupal checked out in a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00077-00017776-00018007 perfect way for doing core development
+xGR0ubiQU60-00078-00018008-00018207 so that may be useful for for this
+xGR0ubiQU60-00079-00018208-00018311 week's contrib
+xGR0ubiQU60-00080-00018312-00018894 so len you want to introduce yourself
+xGR0ubiQU60-00081-00018895-00019175 you're you're muted still yes okay yeah
+xGR0ubiQU60-00082-00019176-00019230 and i just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00083-00019231-00019486 unmuted myself hi my name is len lamberg
+xGR0ubiQU60-00084-00019487-00019567 i'm retired
+xGR0ubiQU60-00085-00019568-00019775 um i'm trying to do a lot of development
+xGR0ubiQU60-00086-00019776-00019919 on my own i run
+xGR0ubiQU60-00087-00019920-00020255 a site for my wife who's a writer
+xGR0ubiQU60-00088-00020256-00020486 and it's pretty extend it's got a lot of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00089-00020487-00020678 text in it and it's in drupal 7.
+xGR0ubiQU60-00090-00020679-00020991 and i'm looking to um migrate it to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00091-00020992-00021407 drupal 9 and i'm very anxious to hear
+xGR0ubiQU60-00092-00021408-00021735 more about using ddev to do migration
+xGR0ubiQU60-00093-00021736-00021991 cool yeah um let's get that and let's
+xGR0ubiQU60-00094-00021992-00022127 let's make sure we do that there's
+xGR0ubiQU60-00095-00022128-00022278 actually a great article
+xGR0ubiQU60-00096-00022279-00023014 on migrations with ddo
+xGR0ubiQU60-00097-00023015-00023183 and i've got a question about it uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00098-00023184-00023391 regarding um the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00099-00023392-00023630 different version of the database driver
+xGR0ubiQU60-00100-00023631-00023742 okay good
+xGR0ubiQU60-00101-00023743-00023991 um joanne you wanna quickly introduce
+xGR0ubiQU60-00102-00023992-00024247 yourself and then terry
+xGR0ubiQU60-00103-00024248-00024455 hi my name is joanne patelano i work at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00104-00024456-00024591 umass amherst
+xGR0ubiQU60-00105-00024592-00024942 um and um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00106-00024943-00025255 i use g-dub um for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00107-00025256-00025567 local environment and before that i was
+xGR0ubiQU60-00108-00025568-00025718 just primarily d7
+xGR0ubiQU60-00109-00025719-00025990 and um didn't do anything locally so the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00110-00025991-00026167 whole get and everything was new
+xGR0ubiQU60-00111-00026168-00026311 but i've been doing that for a while now
+xGR0ubiQU60-00112-00026312-00026558 so it's not new anymore
+xGR0ubiQU60-00113-00026560-00026846 um and i use dj all the time so i just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00114-00026847-00027007 have a few little questions
+xGR0ubiQU60-00115-00027008-00027183 um that you i'm sure you'll be able to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00116-00027183-00027367 answer cool
+xGR0ubiQU60-00117-00027368-00027887 okay terry
+xGR0ubiQU60-00118-00027888-00028167 okay um yeah i'm terry shawn i have a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00119-00028168-00028199 small
+xGR0ubiQU60-00120-00028200-00028479 hosting company and drupal development
+xGR0ubiQU60-00121-00028480-00028623 company
+xGR0ubiQU60-00122-00028624-00029095 and i basically did
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00124-00029483-00029735 environment which recently died so i'm
+xGR0ubiQU60-00125-00029736-00029990 looking for alternatives at this point
+xGR0ubiQU60-00126-00029991-00030199 as opposed to buying yet another server
+xGR0ubiQU60-00127-00030200-00030446 and setting it up
+xGR0ubiQU60-00128-00030447-00030807 but uh so i've actually been trying to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00129-00030808-00030918 install dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00130-00030919-00031262 since uh yesterday and have not had any
+xGR0ubiQU60-00131-00031263-00031567 luck and so i have a bunch of questions
+xGR0ubiQU60-00132-00031568-00031662 about that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00133-00031663-00031862 you bet and i'll be i'll be happy to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00134-00031863-00031967 help you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00135-00031968-00032214 uh probably are you already committed to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00136-00032216-00032318 something after this
+xGR0ubiQU60-00137-00032319-00032535 because i think the best thing for us to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00138-00032536-00032631 do would be to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00139-00032632-00032790 sit down one-on-one and just work
+xGR0ubiQU60-00140-00032791-00033087 through it on zoom
+xGR0ubiQU60-00141-00033088-00033359 no i don't i don't think so but yeah why
+xGR0ubiQU60-00142-00033360-00033551 don't we just do that after this
+xGR0ubiQU60-00143-00033552-00033783 let's plan to carry on after this and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00144-00033784-00033951 we'll just work through your exact
+xGR0ubiQU60-00145-00033952-00034031 problems
+xGR0ubiQU60-00146-00034032-00034583 and uh ellie uh and then david
+xGR0ubiQU60-00147-00034584-00034935 hello uh i'm ellie i work with randy at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00148-00034936-00034999 d-dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00149-00035000-00035335 i've been using dev local since um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00150-00035336-00035655 drupalcon nashville as part of the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00151-00035656-00035950 drupal core mentoring team um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00152-00035951-00036095 [Music]
+xGR0ubiQU60-00153-00036096-00036590 yeah i'm just here to listen in mostly
+xGR0ubiQU60-00154-00036591-00036783 uh hey everybody i'm david i'm a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00155-00036784-00036974 developer at georgia tech
+xGR0ubiQU60-00156-00036975-00037390 and um all my sites have been in d7
+xGR0ubiQU60-00157-00037391-00037774 and now i'm moving into nine and uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00158-00037775-00038127 for local development mam was sufficient
+xGR0ubiQU60-00159-00038128-00038446 but now i need something better for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00160-00038447-00038567 local development
+xGR0ubiQU60-00161-00038568-00039055 and looking to learn about ddev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00162-00039056-00039318 all right very cool bernardo and then
+xGR0ubiQU60-00163-00039319-00039607 john
+xGR0ubiQU60-00164-00039608-00039862 hey i work for utc the university of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00165-00039863-00040046 tennessee chattanooga
+xGR0ubiQU60-00166-00040047-00040374 and we actually are doing our new site
+xGR0ubiQU60-00167-00040375-00040607 on drupal 8 so we've been using drupal
+xGR0ubiQU60-00168-00040608-00040679 bm
+xGR0ubiQU60-00169-00040680-00040855 and lando a little bit but we haven't
+xGR0ubiQU60-00170-00040856-00041111 fully settled on on which solution today
+xGR0ubiQU60-00171-00041112-00041390 since we are a korea base so yeah i'm
+xGR0ubiQU60-00172-00041391-00041430 just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00173-00041431-00041630 wanting to learn a little more about the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00174-00041631-00041823 alternatives what you had guys have
+xGR0ubiQU60-00175-00041824-00042079 found and then i know acura is doing
+xGR0ubiQU60-00176-00042080-00042271 something with lando so i wanted to ask
+xGR0ubiQU60-00177-00042272-00042311 a few
+xGR0ubiQU60-00178-00042312-00042558 things about that and how that looks how
+xGR0ubiQU60-00179-00042559-00042623 we did it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00180-00042624-00043095 as well you bet you bet john
+xGR0ubiQU60-00181-00043096-00043439 hi uh i use virtualbox and vagrant but i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00182-00043440-00043543 wanted to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00183-00043544-00043839 see how uh d-depth compares and see if i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00184-00043840-00044183 could use it as a new local dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00185-00044184-00044758 very cool okay adrian and bob
+xGR0ubiQU60-00186-00044759-00045062 well i'm a developer i work with bob at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00187-00045063-00045199 metro community in saint charles
+xGR0ubiQU60-00188-00045200-00045327 illinois
+xGR0ubiQU60-00189-00045328-00045543 right now we're using lando mostly for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00190-00045544-00045790 local development but i've used
+xGR0ubiQU60-00191-00045791-00046183 used dev desktop and had my own servers
+xGR0ubiQU60-00192-00046184-00046223 up
+xGR0ubiQU60-00193-00046224-00046551 and used uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00194-00046552-00046815 lamp stacks and that so just basically
+xGR0ubiQU60-00195-00046816-00046974 i've heard about d-dev and i just want
+xGR0ubiQU60-00196-00046975-00047102 to hear more about it because
+xGR0ubiQU60-00197-00047103-00047415 all i've heard is the name basically yep
+xGR0ubiQU60-00198-00047416-00047799 you bet and i uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00199-00047800-00048039 like adrian said we mostly use lando and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00200-00048040-00048183 that's because
+xGR0ubiQU60-00201-00048184-00048495 i don't want to learn yet another thing
+xGR0ubiQU60-00202-00048496-00048790 but uh i'm always keeping my eyes open
+xGR0ubiQU60-00203-00048791-00048871 for other
+xGR0ubiQU60-00204-00048872-00049167 uh other avenues i'm curious what the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00205-00049168-00049311 difference is
+xGR0ubiQU60-00206-00049312-00049662 between lando and d-dev and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00207-00049663-00049902 also what your thoughts are on some of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00208-00049903-00049967 these
+xGR0ubiQU60-00209-00049968-00050430 new uh development opportunities with
+xGR0ubiQU60-00210-00050431-00050735 maybe the tugboat route or the uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00211-00050736-00051071 uh get pod route those types of things
+xGR0ubiQU60-00212-00051072-00051399 looking forward to it and uh let's see
+xGR0ubiQU60-00213-00051400-00051535 we skipped aaron
+xGR0ubiQU60-00214-00051536-00051711 because he showed up in the middle of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00215-00051712-00051958 everything and then manav and aaron
+xGR0ubiQU60-00216-00051959-00052270 oh two errands so aaron fieldly for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00217-00052271-00052375 felidae
+xGR0ubiQU60-00218-00052376-00052694 first hi uh yeah
+xGR0ubiQU60-00219-00052695-00052871 i just kind of decided to pop in because
+xGR0ubiQU60-00220-00052872-00053063 local development is relevant to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00221-00053064-00053375 some of my interests um i do a lot of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00222-00053376-00053511 things with lando so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00223-00053512-00053823 just figured i'd hang out here and see
+xGR0ubiQU60-00224-00053824-00053935 how things went
+xGR0ubiQU60-00225-00053936-00054542 okay and manov and aaron grant
+xGR0ubiQU60-00226-00054544-00054982 oh hi guys can you hear
+xGR0ubiQU60-00227-00054983-00055575 your volume is really low
+xGR0ubiQU60-00228-00055576-00056082 just yell into the microphone or
+xGR0ubiQU60-00229-00056083-00056566 something
+xGR0ubiQU60-00230-00056567-00056719 aaron grant why don't you go ahead while
+xGR0ubiQU60-00231-00056720-00056919 that gets sorted out sure thing
+xGR0ubiQU60-00232-00056920-00057182 yeah sorry i was late i had a work call
+xGR0ubiQU60-00233-00057183-00057254 um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00234-00057255-00057415 no i'm just interested to learn more
+xGR0ubiQU60-00235-00057416-00057526 about other options for local
+xGR0ubiQU60-00236-00057527-00057630 development i've used
+xGR0ubiQU60-00237-00057632-00057854 dead desktop exclusively and i know it's
+xGR0ubiQU60-00238-00057855-00057975 going away so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00239-00057976-00058247 yep you can find another path you bet
+xGR0ubiQU60-00240-00058248-00058607 mano did you get it working
+xGR0ubiQU60-00241-00058608-00059854 yeah i'm trying can you hear me no
+xGR0ubiQU60-00242-00059855-00060119 but right now i mean i have worked on i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00243-00060120-00060271 have used
+xGR0ubiQU60-00244-00060272-00060599 accurate desktop xampp lamp but
+xGR0ubiQU60-00245-00060600-00060782 uh i just first this is my first time
+xGR0ubiQU60-00246-00060783-00060926 when i hear about the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00247-00060927-00061279 dev i didn't work on it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00248-00061279-00061591 so but i use i mean i have tried
+xGR0ubiQU60-00249-00061591-00061959 composer i'm so sorry composer i mean
+xGR0ubiQU60-00250-00061960-00062287 uh talkers but
+xGR0ubiQU60-00251-00062288-00062638 i like to work in declarations
+xGR0ubiQU60-00252-00062639-00063038 restaurants because every time if i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00253-00063039-00063335 if i do something in the docker so i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00254-00063336-00063463 have to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00255-00063464-00063854 i have to rebuild the docker and i mean
+xGR0ubiQU60-00256-00063855-00064135 i have to run the delivery command and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00257-00064136-00064526 again build preparer build and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00258-00064527-00064950 check my changes so i don't like
+xGR0ubiQU60-00259-00064951-00065279 logan excellent so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00260-00065279-00065511 yeah let's go ahead and get going first
+xGR0ubiQU60-00261-00065512-00065582 of all
+xGR0ubiQU60-00262-00065583-00065759 i want to make sure that everybody knows
+xGR0ubiQU60-00263-00065760-00065959 why it's important to have a local
+xGR0ubiQU60-00264-00065960-00066015 development
+xGR0ubiQU60-00265-00066016-00066223 environment it's so that you don't screw
+xGR0ubiQU60-00266-00066224-00066399 up your server and so that you have full
+xGR0ubiQU60-00267-00066400-00066711 flexibility to do what you need to do
+xGR0ubiQU60-00268-00066712-00067055 if you if you don't have something other
+xGR0ubiQU60-00269-00067056-00067247 than your server to work on
+xGR0ubiQU60-00270-00067248-00067535 then you are walking a high wire and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00271-00067536-00067694 guaranteed to fall off
+xGR0ubiQU60-00272-00067695-00067943 it's just and plus you won't do what you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00273-00067944-00068055 need to do
+xGR0ubiQU60-00274-00068056-00068359 to experiment and and work with things
+xGR0ubiQU60-00275-00068360-00068526 and then the second thing that people
+xGR0ubiQU60-00276-00068527-00068767 ask is well why should i have an
+xGR0ubiQU60-00277-00068768-00069055 environment like d dev or like lando or
+xGR0ubiQU60-00278-00069056-00069191 like doxel
+xGR0ubiQU60-00279-00069192-00069503 when um i used to just do it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00280-00069504-00069823 i just set up apache and php on my
+xGR0ubiQU60-00281-00069824-00069999 machine and it all worked
+xGR0ubiQU60-00282-00070000-00070294 well the answer is you can do it any way
+xGR0ubiQU60-00283-00070295-00070487 you want but if you went to the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00284-00070488-00070694 to the night watch session today and you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00285-00070695-00070799 watched
+xGR0ubiQU60-00286-00070800-00071038 um what was going on with people trying
+xGR0ubiQU60-00287-00071039-00071294 to do the local
+xGR0ubiQU60-00288-00071295-00071479 native install just installing all the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00289-00071480-00071799 packages and how difficult it was to do
+xGR0ubiQU60-00290-00071800-00072071 then you know that what you want is a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00291-00072072-00072303 repeatable local environment for your
+xGR0ubiQU60-00292-00072304-00072438 team and for yourself
+xGR0ubiQU60-00293-00072439-00072671 one that you can one that you can always
+xGR0ubiQU60-00294-00072672-00072862 count on to be configurable to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00295-00072863-00073182 the php version you need the mariadb
+xGR0ubiQU60-00296-00073183-00073431 version you need all of those kinds of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00297-00073432-00073487 things you know
+xGR0ubiQU60-00298-00073488-00073903 whether you need apache or nginx
+xGR0ubiQU60-00299-00073904-00074103 as far as i'm concerned if you know how
+xGR0ubiQU60-00300-00074104-00074262 to make your local environment
+xGR0ubiQU60-00301-00074263-00074559 go you can do it any way you want if
+xGR0ubiQU60-00302-00074560-00074703 you're on a team though
+xGR0ubiQU60-00303-00074704-00074879 and you don't want to spend the rest of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00304-00074880-00075055 your life supporting your team
+xGR0ubiQU60-00305-00075056-00075335 you'll probably have to use the likes of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00306-00075336-00075471 of dev orlando
+xGR0ubiQU60-00307-00075472-00075687 where you can check it in and it works
+xGR0ubiQU60-00308-00075688-00075871 the same on every platform
+xGR0ubiQU60-00309-00075872-00076087 and each project has all of the stuff
+xGR0ubiQU60-00310-00076088-00076271 configured with it so those are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00311-00076272-00076591 those so those are some of the the basic
+xGR0ubiQU60-00312-00076592-00076735 questions
+xGR0ubiQU60-00313-00076736-00076894 now we're going to come back and i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00314-00076895-00077159 apologize that i didn't write down
+xGR0ubiQU60-00315-00077160-00077319 each of the questions you had but i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00316-00077320-00077511 don't mind if you unmute
+xGR0ubiQU60-00317-00077512-00077767 and come in on those i'm going to first
+xGR0ubiQU60-00318-00077768-00077999 answer terry's question
+xGR0ubiQU60-00319-00078000-00078303 terry said that he couldn't find
+xGR0ubiQU60-00320-00078304-00078679 d-dev once he installed home on linux
+xGR0ubiQU60-00321-00078680-00078959 so terry here's the docs link i just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00322-00078960-00079079 posted it in
+xGR0ubiQU60-00323-00079080-00079279 in the thing here and that shows you how
+xGR0ubiQU60-00324-00079280-00079431 to use homebrew
+xGR0ubiQU60-00325-00079432-00079791 um you have to brew tap drug detail
+xGR0ubiQU60-00326-00079792-00080167 and so do the or you have to do a brew
+xGR0ubiQU60-00327-00080168-00080223 tap
+xGR0ubiQU60-00328-00080224-00080471 or you have to um brew install with the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00329-00080472-00080582 full formula
+xGR0ubiQU60-00330-00080583-00080767 so that link will get that for you so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00331-00080768-00080935 that'll get you that next step
+xGR0ubiQU60-00332-00080936-00081215 but you and i can hang around and uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00333-00081216-00081431 we'll get you all the way through
+xGR0ubiQU60-00334-00081432-00081606 uh after this and i'll be happy to work
+xGR0ubiQU60-00335-00081607-00081862 with you uh directly wsl-2 is a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00336-00081863-00081982 wonderful choice
+xGR0ubiQU60-00337-00081983-00082199 for a development environment yeah just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00338-00082200-00082343 so you know randy i did
+xGR0ubiQU60-00339-00082344-00082526 all that and i've been doing it i'll be
+xGR0ubiQU60-00340-00082527-00082711 i'll be happy last night
+xGR0ubiQU60-00341-00082712-00082838 the other but the other thing is the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00342-00082839-00083094 link you just put put in there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00343-00083095-00083455 is for um you know the mac os
+xGR0ubiQU60-00344-00083456-00083806 and linux but in fact they don't
+xGR0ubiQU60-00345-00083807-00084071 seem to work the same for instance i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00346-00084072-00084415 just did a search on a brew search
+xGR0ubiQU60-00347-00084416-00084711 for gcc because that was part of your
+xGR0ubiQU60-00348-00084712-00084871 original
+xGR0ubiQU60-00349-00084872-00085247 command that was in the on the web page
+xGR0ubiQU60-00350-00085248-00085511 and it came up with just a cast and from
+xGR0ubiQU60-00351-00085512-00085631 what i understand
+xGR0ubiQU60-00352-00085632-00085959 a cask is only for mac anyway well
+xGR0ubiQU60-00353-00085960-00086215 yeah well that you're getting into
+xGR0ubiQU60-00354-00086216-00086375 homebrew specifics
+xGR0ubiQU60-00355-00086376-00086694 and you're on wsl-2 so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00356-00086695-00086847 what the instructions say is just to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00357-00086848-00087079 brew install gcc so see if you can do
+xGR0ubiQU60-00358-00087080-00087135 that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00359-00087136-00087511 no i can't not a cask um but we'll be
+xGR0ubiQU60-00360-00087512-00087599 happy to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00361-00087600-00087782 yeah it doesn't it doesn't find it at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00362-00087783-00087991 all i mean i did a bruised search for it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00363-00087992-00088150 and the only thing that came up was a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00364-00088151-00088375 cask so work together on your
+xGR0ubiQU60-00365-00088376-00088431 environment
+xGR0ubiQU60-00366-00088432-00088591 you can share your screen and we'll find
+xGR0ubiQU60-00367-00088592-00088799 our way through it so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00368-00088800-00089255 um and that'll be great okay um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00369-00089256-00089711 okay um and len shared the link
+xGR0ubiQU60-00370-00089712-00090094 to migrations um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00371-00090095-00090431 so um the the magic
+xGR0ubiQU60-00372-00090432-00090671 so i don't can everybody see where len
+xGR0ubiQU60-00373-00090672-00090767 shared the link
+xGR0ubiQU60-00374-00090768-00091167 about using ddev in a migration um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00375-00091168-00091511 the basic idea on a drupal migration
+xGR0ubiQU60-00376-00091512-00091887 is that um essentially you iteratively
+xGR0ubiQU60-00377-00091888-00092126 work through a whole bunch of little
+xGR0ubiQU60-00378-00092127-00092271 migrations
+xGR0ubiQU60-00379-00092272-00092606 and that is a um it's always been a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00380-00092607-00092775 little challenging because they'd say
+xGR0ubiQU60-00381-00092776-00093031 we'll hook up two databases and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00382-00093032-00093350 and all this stuff and the the brilliant
+xGR0ubiQU60-00383-00093351-00093582 thing that alex moreno has documented
+xGR0ubiQU60-00384-00093583-00093655 here
+xGR0ubiQU60-00385-00093656-00093974 is just how to run two d dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00386-00093975-00094279 sites one with your old uh in drupal 6
+xGR0ubiQU60-00387-00094280-00094391 in this case but
+xGR0ubiQU60-00388-00094392-00094591 the idea there's no difference in the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00389-00094592-00094823 idea if it was drupal 7.
+xGR0ubiQU60-00390-00094824-00095071 you run the old one and you run the new
+xGR0ubiQU60-00391-00095072-00095174 one
+xGR0ubiQU60-00392-00095175-00095303 and then you have them talk to each
+xGR0ubiQU60-00393-00095304-00095511 other so you're working on the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00394-00095512-00095735 you're basically looking at the drupal 6
+xGR0ubiQU60-00395-00095736-00095862 and the drupal 8
+xGR0ubiQU60-00396-00095863-00096126 while you're migrating while you're
+xGR0ubiQU60-00397-00096127-00096311 working on the migration in the drupal
+xGR0ubiQU60-00398-00096312-00096382 8.
+xGR0ubiQU60-00399-00096383-00096599 and then the other thing is gweb has a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00400-00096600-00096774 wonderful thing called a snapshot
+xGR0ubiQU60-00401-00096775-00096871 feature
+xGR0ubiQU60-00402-00096872-00097135 where at each point where you got the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00403-00097136-00097287 migration working
+xGR0ubiQU60-00404-00097288-00097567 you do a snapshot and you name the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00405-00097568-00097687 snapshot
+xGR0ubiQU60-00406-00097688-00097903 with a good name that implies where you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00407-00097904-00098006 got to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00408-00098007-00098255 and then you can use that as a starting
+xGR0ubiQU60-00409-00098256-00098335 point
+xGR0ubiQU60-00410-00098336-00098606 for the next iterative migration so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00411-00098607-00098718 that's the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00412-00098719-00098918 that's the brilliance of that article
+xGR0ubiQU60-00413-00098919-00099062 that alex wrote
+xGR0ubiQU60-00414-00099063-00099374 um is how how that uh goes
+xGR0ubiQU60-00415-00099375-00099703 so um it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00416-00099704-00099950 you know the migration itself is a is a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00417-00099951-00100182 whole topic and it's a big topic
+xGR0ubiQU60-00418-00100183-00100431 but having it already set up to where
+xGR0ubiQU60-00419-00100432-00100503 the two
+xGR0ubiQU60-00420-00100504-00100679 where the old and the new can talk to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00421-00100680-00100926 each other is a great thing and then
+xGR0ubiQU60-00422-00100927-00101071 having
+xGR0ubiQU60-00423-00101072-00101255 the snapshot feature where you can do
+xGR0ubiQU60-00424-00101256-00101374 iterative
+xGR0ubiQU60-00425-00101375-00102335 work on it is really nice so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00426-00102336-00102518 bernardo asked about integrations
+xGR0ubiQU60-00427-00102519-00102718 between d-dev and aqua
+xGR0ubiQU60-00428-00102719-00103054 um they did have v 1.17
+xGR0ubiQU60-00429-00103055-00103247 which should be out next week or the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00430-00103248-00103502 week after depending on how
+xGR0ubiQU60-00431-00103503-00103839 my manual testing goes um is already
+xGR0ubiQU60-00432-00103840-00104006 available it's been available in alpha
+xGR0ubiQU60-00433-00104007-00104110 for some time
+xGR0ubiQU60-00434-00104111-00104382 and it has aqua integration in it it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00435-00104383-00104478 also has
+xGR0ubiQU60-00436-00104479-00105054 platform sh and pantheon and ddev live
+xGR0ubiQU60-00437-00105055-00105351 it um it's a pull and a push is what it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00438-00105352-00105471 has
+xGR0ubiQU60-00439-00105472-00105951 um uh so it what it's trying to do is to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00440-00105952-00106334 um bring down uh database and files or
+xGR0ubiQU60-00441-00106335-00106423 push up
+xGR0ubiQU60-00442-00106424-00106775 database and files um does that answer
+xGR0ubiQU60-00443-00106776-00107039 your question bernardo
+xGR0ubiQU60-00444-00107040-00107263 yes it does do you know if you're gonna
+xGR0ubiQU60-00445-00107264-00107399 write an
+xGR0ubiQU60-00446-00107400-00107631 article from aqua i know oh about it and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00447-00107632-00107743 why not
+xGR0ubiQU60-00448-00107744-00107983 yeah actually you can just go out to the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00449-00107983-00108278 deed of releases page and you'll see
+xGR0ubiQU60-00450-00108279-00108510 the information about how to i would
+xGR0ubiQU60-00451-00108511-00108743 love to have you use it right now
+xGR0ubiQU60-00452-00108744-00109007 because if you uh find things that can
+xGR0ubiQU60-00453-00109008-00109231 improve in this final stage of the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00454-00109232-00109295 release
+xGR0ubiQU60-00455-00109296-00109534 it would be a just a lovely thing but
+xGR0ubiQU60-00456-00109535-00109607 dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00457-00109608-00109854 in the latest in the upcoming version
+xGR0ubiQU60-00458-00109855-00109990 it's already been in alpha a lot of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00459-00109991-00110127 people have been trying it it's
+xGR0ubiQU60-00460-00110128-00110271 available there in
+xGR0ubiQU60-00461-00110272-00110631 in homebrew uh but it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00462-00110632-00110983 did uh now lets you script an
+xGR0ubiQU60-00463-00110983-00111095 integration
+xGR0ubiQU60-00464-00111096-00111351 with a little bit of bash so new
+xGR0ubiQU60-00465-00111352-00111543 integrations don't require somebody to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00467-00111703-00111910 and understand how to fit into the data
+xGR0ubiQU60-00468-00111911-00112054 framework and stuff
+xGR0ubiQU60-00469-00112055-00112375 so the aqua integration is
+xGR0ubiQU60-00470-00112376-00112695 one of those integrations one of the new
+xGR0ubiQU60-00471-00112696-00112878 integrations that's there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00472-00112879-00113183 and it has both push and pull uh push i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00473-00113183-00113351 want to warn everybody off you'll see
+xGR0ubiQU60-00474-00113352-00113519 all through there that i'm trying to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00475-00113520-00113831 warn people off of push push is not a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00476-00113832-00113895 part
+xGR0ubiQU60-00477-00113896-00114158 of a normal workflow normally your
+xGR0ubiQU60-00478-00114159-00114271 upstream
+xGR0ubiQU60-00479-00114272-00114663 um your upstream is the server and it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00480-00114664-00114943 it is sacrosanct and you don't ever push
+xGR0ubiQU60-00481-00114944-00115023 a database
+xGR0ubiQU60-00482-00115024-00115351 to it you make changes your users are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00483-00115352-00115502 making changes to it all the time
+xGR0ubiQU60-00484-00115503-00115615 typically
+xGR0ubiQU60-00485-00115616-00115878 but you usually pull from it in most
+xGR0ubiQU60-00486-00115879-00116039 people's workflows
+xGR0ubiQU60-00487-00116040-00116343 but dita people have asked for push for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00488-00116344-00116534 special case scenarios
+xGR0ubiQU60-00489-00116535-00116847 for quite some time and now it has it so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00490-00116848-00117239 a good use of a push would be
+xGR0ubiQU60-00491-00117240-00117551 say a push to a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00492-00117552-00117839 staging server where you don't care
+xGR0ubiQU60-00493-00117840-00118023 about what you're overriding
+xGR0ubiQU60-00494-00118024-00118271 another good use would be the very first
+xGR0ubiQU60-00495-00118272-00118351 time
+xGR0ubiQU60-00496-00118352-00118575 that you're pushing to a site those are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00497-00118576-00118719 good uses for push
+xGR0ubiQU60-00498-00118720-00118863 i'm sure that there's there's a number
+xGR0ubiQU60-00499-00118864-00119063 of other ones but
+xGR0ubiQU60-00500-00119064-00119319 not with a traditional workflow where
+xGR0ubiQU60-00501-00119320-00119519 your poor site is sitting up there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00502-00119520-00119710 and you have a copy of it down on your
+xGR0ubiQU60-00503-00119711-00120015 local you push it back up and blow away
+xGR0ubiQU60-00504-00120016-00120310 uh five weeks worth of history in your
+xGR0ubiQU60-00505-00120311-00120483 production site
+xGR0ubiQU60-00506-00120483-00120854 so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00507-00120855-00121158 bob snodgrass snodgrass
+xGR0ubiQU60-00508-00121159-00121399 asked can local developments in both
+xGR0ubiQU60-00509-00121400-00121478 lando and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00510-00121479-00121790 and d dev and doxel coexist
+xGR0ubiQU60-00511-00121791-00122183 and the answer is absolutely yes um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00512-00122183-00122486 uh both both lando and ddev have
+xGR0ubiQU60-00513-00122488-00122799 a power off command and uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00514-00122800-00123078 essentially if you land over power off
+xGR0ubiQU60-00515-00123079-00123239 or you did have power off then you can
+xGR0ubiQU60-00516-00123240-00123327 do the other one
+xGR0ubiQU60-00517-00123328-00123678 immediately both lando and ddev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00518-00123679-00123951 also go to great lengths to make sure
+xGR0ubiQU60-00519-00123952-00124110 that you could actually use them with
+xGR0ubiQU60-00520-00124111-00124190 the same
+xGR0ubiQU60-00521-00124191-00124502 project and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00522-00124503-00124814 that may not be something that work
+xGR0ubiQU60-00523-00124815-00124966 that maybe may not be something that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00524-00124967-00125166 gets tested enough
+xGR0ubiQU60-00525-00125167-00125414 actually i learned about this problem
+xGR0ubiQU60-00526-00125415-00125534 with amy june in
+xGR0ubiQU60-00527-00125535-00125895 drupal camp colorado she had orlando
+xGR0ubiQU60-00528-00125896-00126183 she had a lando project and i said well
+xGR0ubiQU60-00529-00126183-00126302 here we could just do this
+xGR0ubiQU60-00530-00126303-00126447 it won't do any damage there's nothing
+xGR0ubiQU60-00531-00126448-00126639 you can do and uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00532-00126640-00126966 in fact um something did go wrong
+xGR0ubiQU60-00533-00126967-00127383 and so ddev said deeta checks before it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00534-00127383-00127519 uses its settings
+xGR0ubiQU60-00535-00127520-00127831 to see if it is in fact running ddev and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00536-00127832-00127886 i think
+xGR0ubiQU60-00537-00127888-00128102 i'm pretty sure that mike mike peroga
+xGR0ubiQU60-00538-00128103-00128231 said that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00539-00128232-00128558 perogue said that um that lando does the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00540-00128559-00128790 same kind of check
+xGR0ubiQU60-00541-00128791-00129047 so but i haven't tested that but you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00542-00129048-00129263 absolutely if they're different projects
+xGR0ubiQU60-00543-00129264-00129471 you're not going to have any trouble if
+xGR0ubiQU60-00544-00129472-00129607 you do a power off
+xGR0ubiQU60-00545-00129608-00129823 before you do it and if you're doing the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00546-00129824-00130071 same project with both projects
+xGR0ubiQU60-00547-00130072-00130399 um it'll probably work too
+xGR0ubiQU60-00548-00130400-00130966 does that answer your question
+xGR0ubiQU60-00549-00130967-00131366 yes thanks okay so leslie wants to talk
+xGR0ubiQU60-00550-00131367-00131511 about multi-site
+xGR0ubiQU60-00551-00131512-00131878 um and the um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00552-00131879-00132183 with d-dev uh multi-site
+xGR0ubiQU60-00553-00132184-00132566 basically means that a site um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00554-00132567-00132790 changes its behavior based on the host
+xGR0ubiQU60-00555-00132791-00132895 name that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00556-00132896-00133239 you access it with and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00557-00133240-00133527 normally uh there's a you know a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00558-00133528-00133575 different
+xGR0ubiQU60-00559-00133576-00133887 sites uh subdirectory for each
+xGR0ubiQU60-00560-00133888-00134278 of the multi-sites and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00561-00134279-00134743 on ddev you can just change the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00562-00134744-00134959 you can you can add a number of host
+xGR0ubiQU60-00563-00134960-00135054 names
+xGR0ubiQU60-00564-00135055-00135302 or even full fully qualified domain
+xGR0ubiQU60-00565-00135303-00135471 names but usually hostnames is the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00566-00135472-00135607 better way to do it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00567-00135608-00135778 you just add hostnames in the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00568-00135779-00135927 config.yaml
+xGR0ubiQU60-00569-00135928-00136214 or with the ddf config command and then
+xGR0ubiQU60-00570-00136215-00136414 the site responds to the different host
+xGR0ubiQU60-00571-00136415-00136487 names
+xGR0ubiQU60-00572-00136488-00136702 and then it's just a matter of making
+xGR0ubiQU60-00573-00136703-00136847 sure that each of your multi
+xGR0ubiQU60-00574-00136848-00137159 your multi sites is set up in the it's
+xGR0ubiQU60-00575-00137160-00137407 the sites.php right that where
+xGR0ubiQU60-00576-00137408-00137711 it has to recognize that so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00577-00137712-00138014 it's uh it's very straightforward um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00578-00138015-00138199 does that answer your question leslie
+xGR0ubiQU60-00579-00138200-00138343 yes it does thank you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00580-00138344-00138687 okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-00581-00138688-00139078 okay joanne says about using drush with
+xGR0ubiQU60-00582-00139079-00139166 d-div
+xGR0ubiQU60-00583-00139167-00139551 so um you use d-dev exec drush
+xGR0ubiQU60-00584-00139552-00139887 um d-div in current versions has an
+xGR0ubiQU60-00585-00139888-00140095 actual shortcut for that so you can use
+xGR0ubiQU60-00586-00140096-00140447 a ddev drush
+xGR0ubiQU60-00587-00140448-00140751 but you say i probably need to install
+xGR0ubiQU60-00588-00140752-00140871 drush globally
+xGR0ubiQU60-00589-00140872-00141302 no drush in the current stable version
+xGR0ubiQU60-00590-00141303-00141471 1.16
+xGR0ubiQU60-00591-00141472-00141759 is installed it it is just 8 is
+xGR0ubiQU60-00592-00141760-00141935 installed globally
+xGR0ubiQU60-00593-00141936-00142207 um but joanne what version of drupal are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00594-00142208-00142519 you working with
+xGR0ubiQU60-00595-00142520-00142759 um i just recently downloaded the latest
+xGR0ubiQU60-00596-00142760-00142902 version of 8
+xGR0ubiQU60-00597-00142903-00143319 whatever the latest version is um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00598-00143320-00143647 that's the and yeah so that's that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00599-00143648-00143831 and i just checked my version of d dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-00600-00143832-00144119 and that's uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00601-00144120-00144463 uh 1 15 3 1.15 three
+xGR0ubiQU60-00602-00144464-00144823 is the d div version yeah so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00603-00144824-00145111 d dev the current d dev is 1.16 and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00604-00145112-00145223 that's the one where
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00606-00145703-00146054 also um so there's there's a few answers
+xGR0ubiQU60-00607-00146055-00146159 here
+xGR0ubiQU60-00608-00146160-00146471 um if you're working with drupal 8
+xGR0ubiQU60-00609-00146472-00146799 then you really need to to install
+xGR0ubiQU60-00610-00146800-00146983 drush with composer that's the way
+xGR0ubiQU60-00611-00146984-00147214 composer that's the way drush is
+xGR0ubiQU60-00612-00147215-00147399 intended to be used
+xGR0ubiQU60-00613-00147400-00147702 so in addition i'm going to be going in
+xGR0ubiQU60-00614-00147703-00147759 nine
+xGR0ubiQU60-00615-00147760-00147983 so i might abandon eight because i just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00616-00147984-00148119 learned when i yesterday when i was
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00618-00148232-00148447 you know eight won't be supported or
+xGR0ubiQU60-00619-00148448-00148566 something like that updated up to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00621-00148767-00149087 so yeah nine
+xGR0ubiQU60-00622-00149088-00149366 nine and eight are the same there's no
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00624-00149488-00149775 nobody nobody at this point starting a
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00627-00150072-00150359 nine is what you would want to use um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00628-00150360-00150423 but the
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00631-00150760-00150878 composer
+xGR0ubiQU60-00632-00150879-00151223 require drush strush and that'll install
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00634-00151344-00151551 if you just search for if you if you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00635-00151552-00151671 just google
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00638-00152279-00152407 the recipe
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00640-00152736-00152887 that includes trash
+xGR0ubiQU60-00641-00152888-00153087 you'll immediately find that okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-00642-00153088-00153254 because i've been using composer to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00644-00153584-00154014 but are you saying that the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00645-00154015-00154366 creating the project in drupal 9 will
+xGR0ubiQU60-00646-00154367-00154663 take care of the installing drush along
+xGR0ubiQU60-00647-00154664-00154790 with it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00648-00154791-00155078 no dress doesn't come with drupal but
+xGR0ubiQU60-00649-00155079-00155159 you need it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00650-00155160-00155487 and the way you the the the the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00651-00155488-00155702 the way the trush team wants you to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00656-00156984-00157175 yeah okay that's it and that's that's
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00658-00157327-00157575 it's just part of the it's just part of
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00660-00157744-00158283 so in regards to uh dev and 116
+xGR0ubiQU60-00661-00158284-00158502 uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00662-00158503-00158751 what obviously i should update to that
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00664-00158855-00159175 that's yeah what what operating system
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00668-00159576-00159919 i did yeah okay so you just do a brew
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00670-00160255-00160711 uh d-dev um and that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00671-00160712-00160895 um i would like to say that i think your
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00673-00161072-00161271 your site a bunch of times and it's
+xGR0ubiQU60-00674-00161272-00161447 clear and i appreciate that you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00675-00161448-00161654 seem to pick up you know the things
+xGR0ubiQU60-00676-00161655-00161847 people run into and put those solutions
+xGR0ubiQU60-00677-00161848-00162007 on there so thank you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00678-00162008-00162311 you're very kind thank you um you also
+xGR0ubiQU60-00679-00162312-00162454 asked about the
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00681-00162791-00163111 and this is a this is a big one um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00682-00163112-00163551 so d dev in 1.16
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00697-00166864-00166943 let's just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00698-00166944-00167263 generalize this idea okay so
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00718-00171976-00172311 so div has that built in so you use dev
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00721-00172632-00172807 um and then you'll be doing the
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00727-00173639-00173871 and all those kinds of things this is
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00730-00174224-00174543 for a number of reasons but it's super
+xGR0ubiQU60-00731-00174544-00174623 important
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00733-00174872-00174966 doxel
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00735-00175264-00175319 host
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00738-00175752-00175902 because it just leads to all kinds of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00739-00175903-00176071 confusion and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00740-00176072-00176359 incorrectness as well that's good so is
+xGR0ubiQU60-00741-00176360-00176483 that on your site
+xGR0ubiQU60-00742-00176484-00176766 um uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00743-00176767-00177087 ddf composer yes in terms of say
+xGR0ubiQU60-00744-00177088-00177151 spinning up
+xGR0ubiQU60-00745-00177152-00177414 a drupal mic yeah so just just uh search
+xGR0ubiQU60-00746-00177415-00177495 just google
+xGR0ubiQU60-00747-00177496-00177919 dev drupal nine quick start
+xGR0ubiQU60-00748-00177920-00178183 great and it'll take you straight there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00749-00178184-00178423 and then you can paste the link there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00750-00178424-00178751 thanks a lot so as you said um the way
+xGR0ubiQU60-00751-00178752-00178878 i've been doing it
+xGR0ubiQU60-00752-00178879-00179135 you just mentioned that it's known that
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00756-00179864-00179926 happens
+xGR0ubiQU60-00757-00179927-00180231 and so i'm going to do that thank you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00758-00180232-00180423 and that actually that goes back to the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00759-00180424-00180559 same thing that we were saying
+xGR0ubiQU60-00760-00180560-00180959 at the top um when you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00761-00180960-00181311 try to use the composer or php that's on
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00763-00181439-00181647 you're using what's on your machine
+xGR0ubiQU60-00764-00181648-00181847 whatever what it happened to be whatever
+xGR0ubiQU60-00765-00181848-00182038 you had home brewed in there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00766-00182039-00182238 whatever version of composer might have
+xGR0ubiQU60-00767-00182239-00182414 been you know and it and it isn't
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00769-00182608-00182814 and that's why if you use a consistent
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00775-00183808-00184335 of composure and everything else so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00776-00184336-00184551 i wouldn't mind answering asking one
+xGR0ubiQU60-00777-00184552-00184911 more question at this time
+xGR0ubiQU60-00778-00184912-00185143 sorry i wouldn't mind asking one more
+xGR0ubiQU60-00779-00185144-00185287 question why don't you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00780-00185288-00185614 yeah um dw
+xGR0ubiQU60-00781-00185615-00185975 if i if i do a start on one project
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00783-00186255-00186350 same time
+xGR0ubiQU60-00784-00186351-00186607 you actually can you can ddev start
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00788-00187215-00187478 actually do uh ddef start dash a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00789-00187479-00187799 or dash dash all um and that'll start
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00791-00188032-00188207 don't recommend doing on my machine
+xGR0ubiQU60-00792-00188208-00188423 because i've usually got too many okay i
+xGR0ubiQU60-00793-00188424-00188535 could probably do yes
+xGR0ubiQU60-00794-00188536-00188911 like what you're saying so ddf start uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00795-00188912-00189095 i'll have to look that up the code what
+xGR0ubiQU60-00796-00189096-00189214 you're saying
+xGR0ubiQU60-00797-00189215-00189343 so if i didn't want to do all i just
+xGR0ubiQU60-00798-00189344-00189519 want to do two or you know what i mean
+xGR0ubiQU60-00799-00189520-00189743 yeah so you just do d dev start and then
+xGR0ubiQU60-00800-00189744-00189887 the name of the first one and the name
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00803-00190103-00190414 i don't i don't usually do that because
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00807-00190888-00191271 um so i end up with several running
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00809-00191624-00191814 and i remember that i should shut them
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00812-00192391-00193047 thank you so bernardo was talking about
+xGR0ubiQU60-00813-00193048-00193359 drupal vm to lando with blt there's a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00814-00193360-00193495 great article
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00816-00193727-00193999 you look for blt there's an article
+xGR0ubiQU60-00817-00194000-00194302 in the awesome detail of um repo
+xGR0ubiQU60-00818-00194303-00194614 about blt and i think that might
+xGR0ubiQU60-00819-00194615-00194983 uh that might help you at least i claim
+xGR0ubiQU60-00820-00194984-00195807 there is
+xGR0ubiQU60-00821-00195808-00196119 so ralph is asking the best approach to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00823-00196391-00196831 so the a custom service
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00826-00197320-00197583 um i i can speak better to ddev of
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00835-00199088-00199375 okay data out of the box provides a web
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00838-00199896-00199935 other
+xGR0ubiQU60-00839-00199936-00200238 miscellaneous things that aren't
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00844-00201200-00201343 a custom service
+xGR0ubiQU60-00845-00201344-00201535 is something else that you want to add
+xGR0ubiQU60-00846-00201536-00201750 on to this so ralph
+xGR0ubiQU60-00847-00201751-00202078 uh mentions um elasticsearch
+xGR0ubiQU60-00848-00202079-00202311 the most common one in the world for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00849-00202312-00202414 drupal
+xGR0ubiQU60-00850-00202415-00202743 is solar apache solar and it basically
+xGR0ubiQU60-00851-00202744-00202823 means
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00853-00203136-00203495 you're using the docker compose
+xGR0ubiQU60-00854-00203496-00203647 capabilities to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00855-00203648-00203999 configure another one um so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00856-00204000-00204271 if you uh look for you know additional
+xGR0ubiQU60-00857-00204272-00204487 services in the dev docs
+xGR0ubiQU60-00858-00204488-00204743 it will give examples of about four of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00859-00204744-00204790 them
+xGR0ubiQU60-00860-00204791-00205023 and links to them but it also links to
+xGR0ubiQU60-00861-00205023-00205231 the d dev contrib project
+xGR0ubiQU60-00862-00205232-00205606 which has probably a dozen more
+xGR0ubiQU60-00863-00205607-00205846 and frankly what most people do is copy
+xGR0ubiQU60-00864-00205848-00206038 and paste
+xGR0ubiQU60-00865-00206039-00206503 so learning so getting past the copy and
+xGR0ubiQU60-00866-00206504-00206542 paste
+xGR0ubiQU60-00867-00206544-00206910 stage is requires a little bit of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00868-00206911-00206990 knowledge
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00870-00207271-00207455 spend some time in the dev channel in
+xGR0ubiQU60-00871-00207456-00207646 the drupal slack
+xGR0ubiQU60-00872-00207648-00207782 and there's a lot of that going on
+xGR0ubiQU60-00873-00207783-00207910 there's a lot of people there that'll
+xGR0ubiQU60-00874-00207911-00208086 help
+xGR0ubiQU60-00875-00208087-00208327 so there's a lot of a lot of option
+xGR0ubiQU60-00876-00208328-00208510 there
+xGR0ubiQU60-00877-00208511-00208831 so so ralph
+xGR0ubiQU60-00878-00208832-00209182 um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00879-00209183-00209438 is is talking about the elastic search
+xGR0ubiQU60-00880-00209439-00209679 about page on docker hub
+xGR0ubiQU60-00881-00209680-00210023 and so on docker hub you're looking at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00882-00210023-00210142 the docks
+xGR0ubiQU60-00883-00210144-00210479 for the image itself and then if you
+xGR0ubiQU60-00884-00210480-00210631 look at the recipe indeed
+xGR0ubiQU60-00885-00210632-00210839 contrib you're looking at a docker
+xGR0ubiQU60-00886-00210840-00211031 compose recipe
+xGR0ubiQU60-00887-00211032-00211482 that uses that image
+xGR0ubiQU60-00888-00211483-00211719 and that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00889-00211719-00212063 is um and so now you want to go past
+xGR0ubiQU60-00890-00212064-00212103 that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00891-00212104-00212503 and use um you know me
+xGR0ubiQU60-00892-00212504-00212798 and the really the best way to do that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00893-00212800-00212998 is to try to understand what's going
+xGR0ubiQU60-00894-00213000-00213255 on you know read the docs try to look at
+xGR0ubiQU60-00895-00213256-00213310 the comp
+xGR0ubiQU60-00896-00213311-00213631 the comparable ones um and then go for
+xGR0ubiQU60-00897-00213632-00213727 help in the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00898-00213728-00214031 in the dev channel in the in the drupal
+xGR0ubiQU60-00899-00214032-00214127 slack
+xGR0ubiQU60-00900-00214128-00214503 so is that is that a good enough answer
+xGR0ubiQU60-00901-00214504-00214846 um ralph because um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00902-00214848-00215079 yeah basically it might be out of the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00903-00215080-00215239 scope of litter
+xGR0ubiQU60-00904-00215240-00215542 ask me anything but uh i just
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00926-00220167-00220303 may not be the same
+xGR0ubiQU60-00927-00220304-00220623 so okay yeah anyway those are those are
+xGR0ubiQU60-00928-00220623-00220958 um that's i'm happy to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00932-00221544-00221719 saturday
+xGR0ubiQU60-00933-00221719-00222031 but it's it's all straightforward so
+xGR0ubiQU60-00934-00222032-00222279 no i don't want to say that it's not
+xGR0ubiQU60-00935-00222280-00222382 easy
+xGR0ubiQU60-00936-00222383-00222815 to it's not easy to come to terms with
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00939-00223344-00223751 that is definitely advanced
+xGR0ubiQU60-00940-00223752-00224119 and it and and you know tomorrow we're
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00942-00224288-00224558 time on the schedule for exploring a
+xGR0ubiQU60-00943-00224559-00224646 number of things
+xGR0ubiQU60-00944-00224648-00224958 and custom services is one of
+xGR0ubiQU60-00945-00224959-00225182 them so we might you know depending on
+xGR0ubiQU60-00946-00225183-00225351 who shows up we might want to take that
+xGR0ubiQU60-00947-00225352-00225815 on tomorrow
+xGR0ubiQU60-00948-00225816-00226079 so brooke pasted the drupal 9 quick
+xGR0ubiQU60-00949-00226080-00226191 start for us
+xGR0ubiQU60-00950-00226192-00226558 thank you very much and uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00951-00226559-00226846 yeah and bob found the um the aqua
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00953-00226919-00227398 about blt i think that's also by by alex
+xGR0ubiQU60-00954-00227400-00227582 and thank you for posting the awesome
+xGR0ubiQU60-00955-00227583-00227791 dda link as well
+xGR0ubiQU60-00956-00227792-00227967 so now we've worked our way through the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00957-00227967-00228198 chat did i miss anybody's thing in the
+xGR0ubiQU60-00958-00228200-00228246 chat
+xGR0ubiQU60-00959-00228248-00228615 oh yes i did here they come right now
+xGR0ubiQU60-00960-00228616-00228927 so joanne says how would you comment on
+xGR0ubiQU60-00961-00228928-00229246 how we could best be prepared for the
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00963-00229683-00229855 um
+xGR0ubiQU60-00964-00229856-00230191 oh are you talking about um so joanna
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00967-00230567-00230671 have
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00970-00231048-00231271 people that are interested in more than
+xGR0ubiQU60-00971-00231271-00231431 uh just the basics it's not like we're
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00973-00231544-00231742 that you know something we're going to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00977-00232544-00232798 so uh maybe you could say more about
+xGR0ubiQU60-00978-00232800-00232975 what you were trying to say joanne oh uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-00979-00232976-00233055 you just mentioned
+xGR0ubiQU60-00980-00233056-00233334 um was it rel um who just was he thought
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00983-00233632-00233823 try that tomorrow it was time permitting
+xGR0ubiQU60-00984-00233823-00234103 and that's what i was talking about um
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00989-00234664-00234863 wanting to get more information about
+xGR0ubiQU60-00990-00234864-00234998 that to be prepared
+xGR0ubiQU60-00991-00235000-00235255 if i was to attend and you know yeah so
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+xGR0ubiQU60-00995-00235935-00236127 and post that for joanne that would be
+xGR0ubiQU60-00996-00236128-00236239 great
+xGR0ubiQU60-00997-00236240-00236375 so that would be the first thing would
+xGR0ubiQU60-00998-00236376-00236623 be to read that although joanne
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01000-00236888-00236967 yet right
+xGR0ubiQU60-01001-00236967-00237198 yeah yeah i've been using it yeah you
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01003-00237304-00237527 yeah i mean okay okay okay maybe not
+xGR0ubiQU60-01004-00237528-00237679 it's full potential but yeah
+xGR0ubiQU60-01005-00237680-00237879 okay okay okay i just didn't i didn't
+xGR0ubiQU60-01006-00237880-00237982 want you to start
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01008-00238271-00238342 yeah
+xGR0ubiQU60-01009-00238344-00238703 and i can handle but you know yeah so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01010-00238704-00238982 yeah so the um so read the read the
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01030-00243128-00243439 and so your next step
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01035-00244240-00244287 seem
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01037-00244671-00245015 thank you you bet okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-01038-00245016-00245367 brooke okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-01039-00245367-00245679 so so brooke
+xGR0ubiQU60-01040-00245680-00246039 is doing a brook is doing the exact
+xGR0ubiQU60-01041-00246040-00246382 um drupal 9 quick start
+xGR0ubiQU60-01042-00246383-00246767 on windows and the
+xGR0ubiQU60-01043-00246767-00247079 ddv composer create
+xGR0ubiQU60-01044-00247080-00247471 does in fact create a new site
+xGR0ubiQU60-01045-00247471-00247863 and empties out your directory and so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01046-00247864-00248127 so at the point that we have here it
+xGR0ubiQU60-01047-00248128-00248198 says
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01050-00248535-00248887 everything in and d temp ddev site one
+xGR0ubiQU60-01051-00248888-00249239 is going to be deleted well you better
+xGR0ubiQU60-01052-00249240-00249406 look in tight one and make sure that
+xGR0ubiQU60-01053-00249407-00249582 you want to delete it all because that's
+xGR0ubiQU60-01054-00249583-00249742 that's unfortunately the way
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01056-00250023-00250167 blows away the directory that you're
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01058-00250280-00250615 so does that answer the question brooke
+xGR0ubiQU60-01059-00250616-00250782 i just followed the direction so it was
+xGR0ubiQU60-01060-00250783-00250998 a brand new folder so even doing a brand
+xGR0ubiQU60-01061-00251000-00251142 new folder following those directions
+xGR0ubiQU60-01062-00251144-00251198 gives that
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01064-00251464-00251591 okay to say yes
+xGR0ubiQU60-01065-00251592-00251830 i just don't like the typical person if
+xGR0ubiQU60-01066-00251831-00252015 i for the people i admin
+xGR0ubiQU60-01067-00252016-00252134 they're gonna all freak out when they
+xGR0ubiQU60-01068-00252135-00252334 see that so i'm going to it might not it
+xGR0ubiQU60-01069-00252335-00252534 might not have been a brand new folder
+xGR0ubiQU60-01070-00252535-00252894 and it is well no no
+xGR0ubiQU60-01071-00252896-00253071 for somebody else it might not be but
+xGR0ubiQU60-01072-00253071-00253319 the reality is it does
+xGR0ubiQU60-01073-00253319-00253615 it does have a detail folder in it now
+xGR0ubiQU60-01074-00253616-00253846 and that will be moved out of the way
+xGR0ubiQU60-01075-00253848-00254094 um in this process but if there were
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01077-00254288-00254446 i actually have blown things away with
+xGR0ubiQU60-01078-00254448-00254606 this before so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01079-00254607-00254967 it's a it's a good warning and uh don't
+xGR0ubiQU60-01080-00254967-00255215 hit return too many times yourself
+xGR0ubiQU60-01081-00255216-00255582 um but uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-01082-00255583-00255942 okay i just know for my my typical uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-01083-00255944-00256151 site developers that aren't you know
+xGR0ubiQU60-01084-00256152-00256287 devops type people
+xGR0ubiQU60-01085-00256288-00256398 they're going to see that and they're
+xGR0ubiQU60-01086-00256400-00256615 just they're just going to stop
+xGR0ubiQU60-01087-00256616-00256775 so i'll have to just put my own
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01089-00256919-00256982 explains
+xGR0ubiQU60-01090-00256983-00257151 that i hope they created a new folder
+xGR0ubiQU60-01091-00257152-00257287 here yeah you created a new folder
+xGR0ubiQU60-01092-00257288-00257351 you're okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-01093-00257352-00257679 exactly so um so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01094-00257680-00257998 lynn um points out that mike and ello's
+xGR0ubiQU60-01095-00258000-00258094 book
+xGR0ubiQU60-01096-00258096-00258406 about didev is awesome and
+xGR0ubiQU60-01097-00258407-00258727 uh gives a link there and it really
+xGR0ubiQU60-01098-00258728-00259071 is awesome and uh also
+xGR0ubiQU60-01099-00259071-00259310 mike gives classes he gives two-hour
+xGR0ubiQU60-01100-00259311-00259494 classes on d-dev
+xGR0ubiQU60-01101-00259496-00259775 um i think they used to be it sometimes
+xGR0ubiQU60-01102-00259776-00259855 he gives them
+xGR0ubiQU60-01103-00259856-00260206 at conferences um they're always
+xGR0ubiQU60-01104-00260207-00260415 fairly priced i think they used to be
+xGR0ubiQU60-01105-00260416-00260582 free they used to be come on for his
+xGR0ubiQU60-01106-00260583-00260694 other training
+xGR0ubiQU60-01107-00260696-00260919 i think they're not free anymore but
+xGR0ubiQU60-01108-00260919-00261142 very very worthy and mike is a great
+xGR0ubiQU60-01109-00261144-00261246 teacher
+xGR0ubiQU60-01110-00261248-00261567 so um yeah that book is absolutely worth
+xGR0ubiQU60-01111-00261567-00261615 it
+xGR0ubiQU60-01112-00261616-00261903 um are we giving away any of those uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-01113-00261904-00262127 ellie
+xGR0ubiQU60-01114-00262128-00262375 yep there are a few books available in
+xGR0ubiQU60-01115-00262376-00262455 the mid camp
+xGR0ubiQU60-01116-00262456-00262734 raffle as well as classes so stick
+xGR0ubiQU60-01117-00262735-00262887 around for the closing session
+xGR0ubiQU60-01118-00262888-00263047 yeah so come to the closing session
+xGR0ubiQU60-01119-00263048-00263287 which is today and tomorrow
+xGR0ubiQU60-01120-00263288-00263591 there's a raffle or i believe that's
+xGR0ubiQU60-01121-00263592-00263758 what avi said was every day
+xGR0ubiQU60-01122-00263759-00264087 okay all right so yeah so um you
+xGR0ubiQU60-01123-00264088-00264375 get your get your chance into the raffle
+xGR0ubiQU60-01124-00264376-00264415 for
+xGR0ubiQU60-01125-00264416-00264815 for mike's book and mike's course right
+xGR0ubiQU60-01126-00264816-00265095 yep as well as some free hosting on deed
+xGR0ubiQU60-01127-00265096-00265199 of life
+xGR0ubiQU60-01128-00265200-00265423 excellent excellent yeah lots of goodies
+xGR0ubiQU60-01129-00265424-00265655 so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01130-00265656-00265958 okay so um i think we got to the bottom
+xGR0ubiQU60-01131-00265959-00266206 of the chat again so feel free to
+xGR0ubiQU60-01132-00266207-00266655 open up and ask your question
+xGR0ubiQU60-01133-00266656-00266910 or or come back to one if if i didn't do
+xGR0ubiQU60-01134-00266911-00267023 a very good job on it
+xGR0ubiQU60-01135-00267024-00267191 well randy i hate to say it though we've
+xGR0ubiQU60-01136-00267192-00267367 been having such fun but we are at
+xGR0ubiQU60-01137-00267368-00267639 and a little bit over time oh i thought
+xGR0ubiQU60-01138-00267640-00267887 we were like an hour or more
+xGR0ubiQU60-01139-00267888-00268023 i beg your pardon let me check the
+xGR0ubiQU60-01140-00268024-00268687 schedule again i misspoke
+xGR0ubiQU60-01141-00268688-00268991 anyway regardless we are gonna for
+xGR0ubiQU60-01142-00268992-00269175 anybody that wants to
+xGR0ubiQU60-01143-00269176-00269567 we have um we have
+xGR0ubiQU60-01144-00269568-00269791 lots of opportunity we can spin off into
+xGR0ubiQU60-01145-00269792-00269927 another zoom
+xGR0ubiQU60-01146-00269928-00270391 um and or or whatever we want to do so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01147-00270392-00270471 um and
+xGR0ubiQU60-01148-00270472-00270639 and uh of course terry and i are going
+xGR0ubiQU60-01149-00270640-00270879 to do that anyway but we can just split
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01151-00271056-00271382 very easily um and uh
+xGR0ubiQU60-01152-00271383-00271615 and go forward and if anybody else has
+xGR0ubiQU60-01153-00271616-00271879 lingering things we can do that as well
+xGR0ubiQU60-01154-00271880-00272063 len says i installed dwight with
+xGR0ubiQU60-01155-00272064-00272271 chocolaty and i think i need to upgrade
+xGR0ubiQU60-01156-00272272-00273279 so you do a choco upgrade dev that's it
+xGR0ubiQU60-01157-00273280-00273510 from from where do i do that from the
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01160-00273983-00274167 if no if you're in ubuntu then you
+xGR0ubiQU60-01161-00274168-00274351 didn't use chocolaty so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01162-00274352-00274687 okay localaudi is a windows tool so if
+xGR0ubiQU60-01163-00274688-00274863 you're
+xGR0ubiQU60-01164-00274864-00275206 are you in wsl 2 uh yes
+xGR0ubiQU60-01165-00275207-00275455 if you're in wsl2 then you'll you'll
+xGR0ubiQU60-01166-00275456-00275510 either use
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01171-00276664-00276879 the ddev docs
+xGR0ubiQU60-01172-00276880-00277223 about how to how to install an upgrade
+xGR0ubiQU60-01173-00277224-00277471 but if you used homebrew you'll do a
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01175-00277600-00277887 ddap it is doing that right now you are
+xGR0ubiQU60-01176-00277888-00277975 very good
+xGR0ubiQU60-01177-00277976-00278430 okay paul are we over or not
+xGR0ubiQU60-01178-00278431-00278615 well you can uh you can keep on going
+xGR0ubiQU60-01179-00278616-00278751 for another five minutes but then we
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01181-00278872-00279006 trickled in
+xGR0ubiQU60-01182-00279007-00279223 okay so they'll come into this room okay
+xGR0ubiQU60-01183-00279224-00279391 so what i'm gonna do
+xGR0ubiQU60-01184-00279392-00279734 um we we have well we have five minutes
+xGR0ubiQU60-01185-00279735-00279982 and uh if people trickle in then we're
+xGR0ubiQU60-01186-00279983-00280143 fine anyway so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01187-00280144-00280487 uh ellie
+xGR0ubiQU60-01188-00280488-00280743 are you still here ellie would you mind
+xGR0ubiQU60-01189-00280744-00280991 uh getting a zoom link together
+xGR0ubiQU60-01190-00280992-00281279 and pasting it for us to continue on
+xGR0ubiQU60-01191-00281280-00281382 with
+xGR0ubiQU60-01192-00281383-00281591 um and then you can just get us in there
+xGR0ubiQU60-01193-00281592-00281767 and make me the host
+xGR0ubiQU60-01194-00281768-00282110 um and uh that way we'll
+xGR0ubiQU60-01195-00282111-00282455 continue on oh um okay aaron
+xGR0ubiQU60-01196-00282456-00282767 erin already did it so faster on the
+xGR0ubiQU60-01197-00282768-00282839 draw
+xGR0ubiQU60-01198-00282840-00283167 yeah already did it and so we have a
+xGR0ubiQU60-01199-00283168-00283391 zoom link and aaron i assume that when
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01201-00283648-00283975 and uh terry that's where we'll continue
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01203-00284288-00284615 and let me see here
+xGR0ubiQU60-01204-00284616-00284999 um so joanne says
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01208-00285672-00285854 that is a great idea
+xGR0ubiQU60-01209-00285855-00286175 um you know um joanna you're going to
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01211-00286288-00286615 local development um tomorrow
+xGR0ubiQU60-01212-00286616-00286782 tomorrow morning yeah i'm going to yeah
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01221-00288520-00288695 you know what i mean that would be a
+xGR0ubiQU60-01222-00288696-00288895 great that would be a great article
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01229-00290320-00290495 yeah because it i mean a lot of those
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01231-00290680-00290815 i mean you can find out all that
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01244-00293207-00293375 that's a great idea for an article
+xGR0ubiQU60-01245-00293376-00293710 and i thank you for that for that good
+xGR0ubiQU60-01246-00293711-00293775 idea
+xGR0ubiQU60-01247-00293776-00294006 and we can take a look at that in a few
+xGR0ubiQU60-01248-00294007-00294143 minutes on the other zoom
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01250-00294480-00294767 or we can take a look at that tomorrow
+xGR0ubiQU60-01251-00294768-00294879 so
+xGR0ubiQU60-01252-00294880-00295047 one more question anybody have one more
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+xGR0ubiQU60-01255-00296040-00296263 would you mind pasting that in the
+xGR0ubiQU60-01256-00296264-00296382 general
+xGR0ubiQU60-01257-00296383-00296639 in the slack as well because we'll all
+xGR0ubiQU60-01258-00296640-00296719 lose our way
+xGR0ubiQU60-01259-00296720-00297279 in between here and the other one
+xGR0ubiQU60-01260-00297280-00297615 can do i am leaving and joining the
+xGR0ubiQU60-01261-00297616-00297671 other one
+xGR0ubiQU60-01262-00297672-00297991 and i will see everybody there
+xGR0ubiQU60-01263-00297992-00298127 andy thank you so much that was
+xGR0ubiQU60-01264-00298128-00298407 wonderful
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00000-00000057-00000285 this is a list of individual combat
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00001-00000286-00000492 equipment issued by the United States
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00002-00000493-00000786 Marine Corps this list does not include
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00003-00000787-00001050 items that are issued as uniforms or
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00004-00001051-00001389 weapons and ordnance many items on this
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00005-00001390-00001685 list have nicknames see list of United
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00006-00001686-00001872 States Marine Corps acronyms and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00007-00001873-00002063 expressions
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00008-00002064-00002424 you
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00009-00002425-00002960 topic defensive
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00010-00002961-00003206 ballistic vests the improved modular
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00011-00003207-00003506 tactical vest IMT V is the newest and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00012-00003507-00003752 most advanced vest in marine inventories
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00013-00003753-00003979 with better protection and mobility than
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00014-00003980-00004297 previous vests in a quick release the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00015-00004298-00004529 scalable plate carrier was developed for
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00016-00004530-00004793 troops in Afghanistan due to concerns of
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00017-00004794-00004970 excessive weight limiting mobility
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00018-00004971-00005297 especially in mountainous terrain the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00019-00005298-00005507 outer tactical vest OTV
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00020-00005508-00005779 is being replaced by the mtv for most
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00021-00005780-00006134 forward units the personnel armor system
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00022-00006135-00006472 for ground troops pasgt vest remains in
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00023-00006473-00006656 some limited use in training and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00024-00006656-00006973 non-deployable units the full spectrum
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00025-00006975-00007189 battle equipment kit includes a
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00026-00007190-00007420 quick-release ballistic vest integrated
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00027-00007422-00007667 breathing and floatation devices as well
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00028-00007668-00007994 as load-bearing equipment the combat
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00029-00007995-00008201 integrated releasable armor system
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00030-00008202-00008539 series has replaced the FSB EA AV for
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00031-00008540-00008896 some units the PRU 74 aviators and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00032-00008897-00009188 aircrew combines body armor survival
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00033-00009189-00009464 vest and flotation device combat helmets
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00034-00009465-00009671 the enhanced combat helmet as a new
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00035-00009672-00009793 helmet made of high-strength
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00036-00009794-00010040 polyethylene with superior ballistic
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00037-00010041-00010262 protection compared to previous Kevlar
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00038-00010263-00010607 helmets the EC H is being issued only to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00039-00010608-00010814 deployed units and will be turned in
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00040-00010815-00011039 upon return and given to other combat
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00041-00011040-00011435 units previous helmets like the L WH are
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00042-00011436-00011591 being retained for training and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00043-00011592-00011942 non-combat use the lightweight helmet l
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00044-00011943-00012203 WH can be used with the older sling
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00045-00012204-00012464 suspension or a newer pad suspension to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00046-00012465-00012671 fit the helmet to the head as well as an
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00047-00012672-00012883 ape protection system to add ballistic
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00048-00012884-00013172 protection to the rear of the head the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00049-00013172-00013502 mich TC mm combat helmet is issued to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00050-00013503-00013819 some specialised units the personnel
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00051-00013820-00014069 armor system for ground troops pasgt
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00052-00014069-00014372 helmet has mostly been replaced by the L
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00053-00014372-00014700 WH but can still be found in some units
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00054-00014701-00014993 the enhanced combat vehicle crewmen's
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00055-00014994-00015325 helmet EC VCH allows the crew of m1
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00056-00015326-00015602 Abrahms AAV and laugh vehicles to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00057-00015603-00015797 communicate with less restriction on
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00058-00015797-00015971 mobility and situational awareness
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00059-00015972-00016252 without reducing ballistic protection
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00060-00016253-00016523 most pilots and aircrew will wear a
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00061-00016524-00016703 flight helmet for protection from
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00062-00016704-00016940 aviation related hazards such as an
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00063-00016941-00017177 integrated oxygen mask but typically
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00064-00017178-00017486 offers little ballistic protection the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00065-00017487-00017699 pith helmet is worn not for ballistic
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00066-00017700-00017951 protection but to identify weapons range
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00067-00017952-00018269 coaches and other range personnel other
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00068-00018270-00018485 armor small arms protective inserts
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00069-00018486-00018797 zappy are used with the mt v-- a no TV
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00070-00018798-00018998 to provide protection beyond what the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00071-00018999-00019286 vest itself offers zappy are also
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00072-00019287-00019535 available inside plates to protect the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00073-00019536-00019676 torso
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00074-00019677-00019934 evaporative cooling vests found limited
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00075-00019935-00020237 distribution in desert theaters in 2005
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00076-00020238-00020678 and 2006 the OTV can be adapted with the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00077-00020679-00020855 armored protective enhancement system
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00078-00020856-00021107 apes that adds ballistic protection to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00079-00021108-00021440 the shoulder armpit and upper arm the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00080-00021441-00021656 advanced bomb suit as a type of bomb
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00081-00021657-00021904 suit used by explosive ordnance disposal
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00082-00021905-00022232 chemical biological radiological and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00083-00022233-00022520 nuclear defensive m40 field protective
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00084-00022521-00022760 masks is the standard gas mask but is
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+xHdZl1NJLbo-00087-00023331-00023657 protective posture mop is a NBC suit
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00088-00023658-00023924 with overalls a hooded jacket gloves and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00089-00023925-00024137 over boots to protect against direct
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00090-00024138-00024515 contact with contaminants the mki nerve
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00091-00024516-00024764 agent antidote kit not consists of a
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00092-00024765-00024962 pair of auto injectors containing
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00093-00024963-00025121 atropine sulfate and pralidoxime
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00094-00025122-00025400 chloride for first aid against nerve
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00095-00025401-00025613 agents and are due to be replaced by the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00096-00025614-00025914 single 80 naa
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00097-00025914-00026202 topic load-bearing and packs the family
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00098-00026202-00026402 of improved load-bearing equipment
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00099-00026404-00026592 Philby is the latest load-bearing
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00100-00026593-00026892 equipment to be issued to marines it
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00101-00026893-00027129 replaced the old ilbe due to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00102-00027130-00027425 incompatibility with body armor systems
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00103-00027426-00027740 Philby is made in coyote has a modular
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00104-00027741-00027971 system and allows its users assemble the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00105-00027972-00028262 configuration to its need the improved
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00106-00028263-00028560 load-bearing equipment ilbe is the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00107-00028561-00028776 load-bearing equipment and pack which
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+xHdZl1NJLbo-00110-00029422-00029639 made in MARPAT marine pattern and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00111-00029641-00029907 greatly increases durability comfort and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00112-00029908-00030189 decreases complexity it comes in a
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00113-00030189-00030426 standard recon which adds two side
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00114-00030427-00030770 pouches and corman versions the ilbe
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00115-00030772-00031032 load equipment provides an improved load
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00116-00031033-00031281 bearing vest and the associated pouches
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00117-00031282-00031571 to carry ammunition grenades radios and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00118-00031572-00031935 other items the USMC pack is being
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00119-00031936-00032270 developed to replace the ilbe because
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00120-00032272-00032529 the ilbe was designed as a modified
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00121-00032530-00032696 version of a commercial Arc'teryx
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00122-00032697-00032895 product it doesn't integrate well with
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00123-00032896-00033140 body armor which can cause stress and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00124-00033141-00033426 injury after the initial announcement of
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00125-00033427-00033717 replacement in 2009 the marine corps
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00126-00033718-00033939 finalized design requirements after
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00127-00033940-00034170 testing and released a solicitation for
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00128-00034171-00034464 prototypes in 2011 which resembled the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00129-00034465-00034727 Army's improved version of Maul all
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00130-00034728-00034968 purpose lightweight individual carrying
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00131-00034969-00035157 equipment Alice mixed with some
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00132-00035158-00035373 individual integrated fighting system
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00133-00035374-00035664 iif II items remain in some limited use
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00134-00035665-00036006 in training and non-deployable units the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00135-00036007-00036258 standard canvas are nylon sea bag a
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00136-00036259-00036498 militarized duffle bag has been issued
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00137-00036499-00036723 to service members of all branches since
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00138-00036724-00037017 before World War two however the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00139-00037018-00037218 increase in equipment issued to an
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00140-00037219-00037458 individual marine has made containing
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00141-00037459-00037662 and transporting it all in a standard
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00142-00037663-00037905 sea bag difficult a phenomenon nicknamed
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00143-00037906-00038160 sea bag drag in addition to a tactical
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00144-00038161-00038439 load bearing pack the deployment bag
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00145-00038440-00038696 holds the same cubic footage but rugged
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00146-00038697-00038877 wheels allow it to roll much like a
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00147-00038878-00039099 ruggedized version of commercial rolling
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00148-00039100-00039318 luggage a rubberized
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00149-00039319-00039555 proofing bag liner has been provided to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00150-00039556-00039783 Marines for decades as a way to protect
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00151-00039784-00039981 the contents of a tactical pack from
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00152-00039982-00040293 water newer versions known as the stuff
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+xHdZl1NJLbo-00154-00040537-00040686 air to compress the sack
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00155-00040687-00040944 the gunslinger pack allows a scout
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00156-00040945-00041175 sniper to conceal and protect his sniper
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00157-00041176-00041552 rifle within the pack while on the move
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00158-00041553-00041782 topic clothing cold-weather clothing
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00159-00041783-00042005 all-purpose environmental clothing
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00160-00042006-00042296 system APEC s rather than issue the
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00161-00042297-00042521 third-generation extended cold-weather
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00162-00042522-00042878 clothing system EC WCS the Marine Corps
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00163-00042879-00043172 has begun issuing the APEC s consisting
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00164-00043173-00043601 of a MARPAT parka and pant the APEC s as
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00165-00043602-00043922 structurally almost identical to EC WCS
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00166-00043923-00044105 shell jacket and trousers
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00167-00044106-00044369 the lightweight exposure suit offers
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00168-00044370-00044648 similar capabilities the combat desert
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00169-00044649-00044828 jacket as a lighter suit to protect
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00170-00044829-00045047 Marines from the harsh desert climate
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00171-00045048-00045314 the extreme cold weather parka and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00172-00045315-00045578 trouser offer heavy protection from cold
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00173-00045579-00045887 weather and include over boots the snow
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00174-00045888-00046136 camouflage uniform as a winter marpat
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00175-00046137-00046367 over garment to camouflage Marines and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00176-00046368-00046637 their equipment in snow polypropylene
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00177-00046638-00046871 under shirt and under drawer nicknamed
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00178-00046872-00047108 polypro and officially known as silk
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00179-00047109-00047345 weight is a mock turtleneck and trousers
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00180-00047346-00047564 designed to be worn next to skin and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00181-00047565-00047876 designed by Polartec flame resistant
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00182-00047877-00048113 versions are available the grid fleece
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00183-00048114-00048346 mid weight underwear includes a pullover
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00184-00048347-00048574 and pants in green and coyote brown
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00185-00048575-00048865 while the pullover is commonly issued as
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+xHdZl1NJLbo-00187-00049107-00049289 pants are traditionally not issued
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00188-00049290-00049505 unless the recipient is expected to face
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00189-00049506-00049765 a cold weather environment flame
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00190-00049766-00050033 resistant versions are available a cap
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00191-00050034-00050240 made from micro fleece is given to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00192-00050241-00050458 Marines in most environments
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00193-00050459-00050720 cold-weather socks and scarfs are also
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00194-00050721-00050948 offered to Marines going to cold weather
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00195-00050949-00051248 environments mountain cold-weather boots
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00196-00051249-00051496 later renamed rugged all-terrain rap
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00197-00051497-00051725 boots and extreme cold vapor barrier
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00198-00051726-00052001 boots are given the over boots are
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00199-00052002-00052183 insulated with an air barrier and
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00200-00052184-00052427 include a valve to allow paratroopers to
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00201-00052428-00052610 jump with them while the rat boot is
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00202-00052611-00052829 reinforced with chemically impregnated
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00203-00052829-00053026 leather for durability and stability
+xHdZl1NJLbo-00204-00053027-00053327 other flame resistant organizational
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+xHayb4H0Buu-00046-00009952-00010142 the couple's fans congratulated them on
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+xHayb4H0Buu-00080-00016200-00016399 the juxtaposition of this is totally
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+xHayb4H0Buu-00082-00016512-00016743 oh my gosh this has so much potential to
+xHayb4H0Buu-00083-00016744-00016943 change lives is real
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+xHayb4H0Buu-00088-00017928-00018127 that's it for now thank you for watching
+xHayb4H0Buu-00089-00018128-00019397 please subscribe to stay tuned
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+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00000-00000011-00000278 welcome welcome welcome to the market
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00001-00000279-00000557 like a queen podcast show I'm Donna
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00002-00000558-00000805 Marie Johnson coming to you again from
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00003-00000806-00001211 the Atlanta Georgia area and then I just
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00004-00001212-00001444 came off of one of the most awesome
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00005-00001445-00001780 business days I've ever had it literally
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00006-00001782-00002138 blew my mind and what i'm about to share
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00007-00002139-00002642 with you i believe may also blow yours
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00008-00002643-00002959 and i'll explain what a why i say that
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00009-00002960-00003242 and what i really mean by that I don't
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00010-00003243-00003542 want to use cliches and get you all
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00011-00003543-00003697 confused think and I mean one thing when
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00012-00003698-00003986 I don't so before I get started let me
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00013-00003986-00004252 let you know what happened today that
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00014-00004253-00004577 what he meant happened today I announced
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00015-00004578-00004804 that I wouldn't do the Twitter chat for
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00016-00004805-00004988 the startup strong weekly tuesday
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00017-00004989-00005206 twitter chat today I mean on Tuesday
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00018-00005207-00005465 because it was replaced by a live
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00019-00005466-00005774 in-person event on wednesday this event
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00020-00005775-00006100 was held at clubby atlanta at 30 sub
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00021-00006101-00006395 3707 main street in college park
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00022-00006396-00006631 George's the historic district of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00023-00006633-00006755 college park where they've been
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00024-00006756-00006998 restoring a lot of the old buildings and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00025-00006998-00007244 great new businesses five-star
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00026-00007245-00007492 restaurants posh hotels and everything
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00027-00007493-00007684 are starting to move into our city it's
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00028-00007686-00007885 a wonderful atmosphere it's a wonderful
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00029-00007886-00008131 place to have a business in this season
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00030-00008133-00008353 and there's a lot of growth going on a
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00031-00008354-00008524 lot more things coming down the line and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00032-00008525-00008759 if you come out to our live meetings at
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00033-00008760-00008960 club Atlanta you'll start to learn about
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00034-00008961-00009085 some of these things there are things i
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00035-00009086-00009296 learned today that i didn't know about
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00036-00009297-00009491 that i need to know about because they
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00037-00009492-00009674 will help my business to grow more in
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00038-00009675-00009874 terms of the growth that's coming to the
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00039-00009875-00010151 city so if you have an opportunity to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00040-00010152-00010324 come out to one of those live meetings
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00041-00010325-00010544 in the future don't pass it up you don't
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00042-00010545-00010714 know what opportunities you might be
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00043-00010715-00010963 missing just because of whatever
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00044-00010964-00011338 distraction or whatever excuse that
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00045-00011339-00011549 comes up in your head about why you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00046-00011550-00011777 don't feel like going or won't won't be
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00047-00011778-00011953 going so you want to make sure that you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00048-00011954-00012185 show up for these live events if you're
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00049-00012186-00012442 in atlanta the opportunities are being
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00050-00012443-00012667 put in front of you and if you are
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00051-00012668-00012988 rejecting those opportunities you know
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00052-00012989-00013213 you may be losing out on some things
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00053-00013215-00013427 that you've been praying for some prayer
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00054-00013428-00013700 us may be answered that you won't get
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00055-00013701-00013922 access to until you show up so I just
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00056-00013922-00014047 wanted to encourage I'm not trying to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00057-00014049-00014210 guilt-trip you I'm just trying to make
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00058-00014211-00014380 sure you understand how important this
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00059-00014381-00014609 really is it's very very important all
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00060-00014610-00014905 right so I want to share with you what
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00061-00014906-00015241 happened today this is a great
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00062-00015243-00015469 illustration of what we've been talking
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00063-00015470-00015758 about in this series at market like a
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00064-00015759-00016066 queen calm the podcast series we've been
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00065-00016068-00016351 doing we've been talking about refusing
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00066-00016352-00016619 recognizing refusing and rejecting fear
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00067-00016620-00016972 a lot of people and and confidence
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00068-00016973-00017165 dealers fear is one of those confidence
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00069-00017166-00017303 steelers but there are a lot more
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00070-00017304-00017465 components to that but fear is one of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00071-00017466-00017864 the most important ones to learn how to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00072-00017865-00018161 deal with as an entrepreneur of any type
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00073-00018162-00018397 any type of business if you're letting
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00074-00018398-00018824 fear effect you unconsciously you know
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00075-00018825-00019022 subconsciously or consciously you know
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00076-00019023-00019219 the fear is there and you're not dealing
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00077-00019220-00019421 with it or if you just aren't aware the
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00078-00019422-00019640 fear is there it doesn't matter it's
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00079-00019641-00019831 going to impact your business it's going
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00080-00019832-00020174 to impact your family so you have to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00081-00020175-00020459 learn how to recognize it so that you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00082-00020460-00020702 can also develop the tools and resources
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00083-00020703-00020924 and support system and everything you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00084-00020925-00021185 need so that you'll be stronger because
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00085-00021186-00021512 you're not strong enough yourself for
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00086-00021513-00021665 some things for those things that cause
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00087-00021666-00021800 that kind of fear you're not strong
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00088-00021801-00021956 enough yourself you know that that's why
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00089-00021957-00022172 you're fearful so you need to develop
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00090-00022173-00022378 and build up your skill set and your
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00091-00022379-00022577 support system and all the different
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00092-00022578-00022811 components that come in to help you to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00093-00022812-00023114 recognize the fear to refuse it and to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00094-00023115-00023356 reject it so that's the main gist of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00095-00023357-00023543 what we've been talking about for all of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00096-00023544-00023803 these different podcast shows in this
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00097-00023804-00024028 current season of the podcast show and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00098-00024029-00024256 by the way this is the last podcast show
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00099-00024257-00024478 for this season will be starting up
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00100-00024479-00024778 again in August so i'll be having some
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00101-00024779-00025016 fresh new content for you and i'll also
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00102-00025017-00025303 be a lot more clear we're going to be
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00103-00025304-00025453 talking a lot about clarity and being
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00104-00025454-00025649 clear today so i'm going to be sharing
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00105-00025650-00025939 with you from my notes and at clubby
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00106-00025941-00026128 atlanta the meetup dots there it's
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00107-00026129-00026320 actually on meetup com so if you go on
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00108-00026322-00026552 meetup com check out what events are
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00109-00026552-00026783 going on at clubbing Atlanta the one
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00110-00026783-00027100 that we did today is the regular monthly
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00111-00027101-00027362 member meet up for the clubby members
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00112-00027363-00027668 and their guests and so you are invited
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00113-00027669-00027980 as my guest okay and this is a meetup
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00114-00027981-00028390 where you can we don't just discuss the
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00115-00028391-00028639 topic of fear or whatever the topic is
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00116-00028641-00028970 for that day we also network so we share
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00117-00028970-00029129 about our own business so you do have
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00118-00029130-00029426 time for that too okay so it's a great
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00119-00029427-00029677 place to it's a great community to meet
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00120-00029679-00029968 other like-minded entrepreneurs it's
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00121-00029969-00030187 also a great place to possibly find
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00122-00030188-00030461 people to collaborate with even if what
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00123-00030462-00030680 you're selling is not a good fit for the
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00124-00030681-00030952 people in that meeting you may find some
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00125-00030954-00031187 influencers that can go back and tell
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00126-00031188-00031508 some folks that they are connected with
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00127-00031508-00031702 about what you're doing so it's a great
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00128-00031704-00031990 opportunity that I really don't want you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00129-00031991-00032261 to miss so I hope you join us alright so
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00130-00032262-00032618 let's talk about what our speaker oh and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00131-00032619-00032758 I didn't tell you the name of our secret
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00132-00032760-00033046 i apologize her name is for Sandra Ken
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00133-00033047-00033509 Abreu she is with VK I who please
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00134-00033510-00033827 forgive me I don't remember the exact
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00135-00033828-00034102 name of her business right now but it is
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00136-00034103-00034436 listed online but as vki it stands for
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00137-00034437-00034742 this verse and Rick can Abreu Inc I
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00138-00034743-00035048 believe but for Sandra Kenna Kenna brew
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00139-00035049-00035510 she is um she's a certified life and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00140-00035511-00035720 health coach I believe she calls herself
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00141-00035721-00036005 a healing artist I love that title I
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00142-00036006-00036314 think that's awesome and she definitely
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00143-00036315-00036635 is a person who you should read so look
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00144-00036636-00036869 for Sandra up on amazon and see if you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00145-00036870-00037096 can find her books she has written books
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00146-00037097-00037590 on various topics including about how
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00147-00037591-00038030 she was homeless at one point and how
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00148-00038031-00038336 she made it out of that and became more
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00149-00038337-00038615 successful so you definitely want to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00150-00038616-00038846 check out for Sandra ken Abreu okay so
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00151-00038847-00039236 here's what what percent sure she said
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00152-00039237-00039407 that theorists false evidence appearing
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00153-00039408-00039779 real it stopped shoo it makes you go in
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00154-00039780-00040067 circles it makes you get stuck
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00155-00040068-00040301 can even cause physical spiritual and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00156-00040302-00040604 emotional sickness you have to identify
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00157-00040605-00040970 and overcome the fear and the first sign
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00158-00040971-00041201 of recognizing that fear is present is
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00159-00041202-00041468 the fact that you're stuck if you're
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00160-00041469-00041633 stuck in your business in your life
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00161-00041634-00041827 things are just going around and around
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00162-00041828-00042029 and around in circles over and over and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00163-00042030-00042296 over again and you're never seeing any
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00164-00042297-00042574 kind of change or you know just the same
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00165-00042575-00042812 pattern keeps cropping up over and over
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00166-00042813-00043061 and over again that is the number one
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00167-00043062-00043249 sign that there's fear somewhere in your
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00168-00043250-00043523 life she talked about her own story of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00169-00043524-00043765 how she got unstuck why she was in
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00170-00043766-00044008 homelessness by learning how to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00171-00044009-00044285 recognize that fear and deal with it she
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00172-00044286-00044483 learnt tools and resources and
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00173-00044484-00044696 strategies and built up a support system
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00174-00044697-00045104 so she could deal with that and one of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00175-00045105-00045262 the things that she recommended is
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00176-00045263-00045568 journaling journaling can help you to
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00177-00045569-00045877 see what's going on in your head it
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00178-00045878-00046070 helps you put down on paper what's
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00179-00046071-00046390 really thinking you know most people
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00180-00046391-00046505 when they journal they don't hide
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00181-00046506-00046693 anything you're not going to hide from
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00182-00046694-00046943 yourself on that paper so you can use
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00183-00046944-00047198 that to identify the fear to identify
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+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00186-00047694-00047962 time over and over over again that you
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00187-00047963-00048098 really shouldn't be saying for instance
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00188-00048099-00048446 if you ever say I'm so stupid please
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00189-00048447-00048664 don't ever say that about yourself okay
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00190-00048665-00048908 that's speaking things into existence
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00191-00048909-00049082 that you don't want to speak into an
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00192-00049083-00049448 existence so anyway those are some of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00193-00049449-00049696 the general notes from what she shared I
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00194-00049697-00049937 want to delve more into this thing about
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00195-00049938-00050162 being clear because this was my main
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00196-00050163-00050780 takeaway she said and I quote where is
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00197-00050781-00050979 it where is it
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00198-00050980-00051301 she said imagination is a preview of
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00199-00051302-00051529 life's coming attractions now she quoted
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00200-00051529-00051795 somebody else when she said that but she
+xIQ4Q_j_X2I-00201-00051796-00051961 also said and this is a direct quote
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00101-00028076-00028237 actual house it's a sort of sonography
+xJpau8VAMHU-00102-00028238-00028504 like a film set not for this film but
+xJpau8VAMHU-00103-00028505-00028675 very much for the camera of the robot
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00107-00029324-00029638 to potential customers so what I did is
+xJpau8VAMHU-00108-00029639-00029958 sort of rebuilt this house to try and
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00110-00030191-00030448 of you know visualize the data set that
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00112-00030577-00030795 computer what was really interesting is
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00115-00031229-00031438 itself and I think for me I really I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00116-00031439-00031672 mean with not having to model anything I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00117-00031673-00031801 mean that most stuff I could just
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00119-00032002-00032227 warehouse and I think for me you know
+xJpau8VAMHU-00120-00032227-00032398 that wasn't a sign of being lazy but
+xJpau8VAMHU-00121-00032399-00032569 much more pointed to words that's how
+xJpau8VAMHU-00122-00032570-00032905 standardized the whatever objects that
+xJpau8VAMHU-00123-00032906-00033165 the Boston Dynamics shows were as well
+xJpau8VAMHU-00124-00033166-00033433 here you're looking at a Sears catalog
+xJpau8VAMHU-00125-00033434-00033640 which you know is sort of a bunch of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00126-00033641-00033775 houses that you could literally order
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00128-00034039-00034371 Second World War and there's a lot of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00129-00034372-00034645 what sort of suburbia looks like and the
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00131-00034918-00035171 really similar to dis at the same time
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00133-00035449-00035781 were IKEA objects which exist in
+xJpau8VAMHU-00134-00035782-00036002 multiples into Sketchup library so I was
+xJpau8VAMHU-00135-00036003-00036201 really curious to this sort of mirroring
+xJpau8VAMHU-00136-00036202-00036435 of the multiplication in the real world
+xJpau8VAMHU-00137-00036436-00036668 versus how it exists in Sketchup so
+xJpau8VAMHU-00138-00036669-00037443 freely available so I'll switch here so
+xJpau8VAMHU-00139-00037444-00037868 when I say computer vision what I'm
+xJpau8VAMHU-00140-00037869-00038018 really interested in is that I think for
+xJpau8VAMHU-00141-00038019-00038327 for us you know this image is more or
+xJpau8VAMHU-00142-00038328-00038565 less clearly cut in a monkey suit
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00147-00039513-00039798 what are these fruits around it so it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00148-00039799-00039942 gets much more complex what you're
+xJpau8VAMHU-00149-00039943-00040179 looking at so whereas as human beings we
+xJpau8VAMHU-00150-00040180-00040437 really know how to you know figure out
+xJpau8VAMHU-00151-00040438-00040623 all of these signifiers and and sort of
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00153-00041013-00041165 the question how would you go about
+xJpau8VAMHU-00154-00041166-00041379 teaching something like this Boston
+xJpau8VAMHU-00155-00041380-00041589 Dynamics being again a private company
+xJpau8VAMHU-00156-00041590-00041754 not having access to that it was like
+xJpau8VAMHU-00157-00041755-00041949 well what other developments are there
+xJpau8VAMHU-00158-00041950-00042207 like this the biggest ones being done in
+xJpau8VAMHU-00159-00042208-00042473 academia you actually do have access to
+xJpau8VAMHU-00160-00042474-00042821 and the biggest one biggest datasets is
+xJpau8VAMHU-00161-00042822-00043086 called C net RGB D and that's currently
+xJpau8VAMHU-00162-00043087-00043289 being developed by the Imperial College
+xJpau8VAMHU-00163-00043290-00043508 in London and supported by Dyson I don't
+xJpau8VAMHU-00164-00043509-00043674 know if any of you know Dyson the vacuum
+xJpau8VAMHU-00165-00043675-00044090 cleaners it's the same company James
+xJpau8VAMHU-00166-00044091-00044315 Dyson the founder of the vacuum cleaner
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00175-00046116-00046358 was interested in in actually funding
+xJpau8VAMHU-00176-00046359-00046542 the robotics vision Institute and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00177-00046543-00046689 Imperial College - you know at some
+xJpau8VAMHU-00178-00046690-00046893 point be able to commercially also
+xJpau8VAMHU-00179-00046894-00047018 produce hardware that will be
+xJpau8VAMHU-00180-00047019-00047287 intelligent enough to do whatever tasks
+xJpau8VAMHU-00181-00047288-00047643 one would need
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00190-00049687-00049905 image only and at the same time you
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00193-00050320-00050604 with the cats and the monkey suit you
+xJpau8VAMHU-00194-00050605-00050844 know like a human labor would literally
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00205-00052804-00053004 mean this is labor that's being done in
+xJpau8VAMHU-00206-00053004-00053376 really awful conditions really badly
+xJpau8VAMHU-00207-00053377-00053555 paid but at the same time it's still
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00209-00053749-00054067 that are trying to get this work done so
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00213-00054874-00055130 thousands of 3d models to have some sort
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00215-00055414-00055541 world and this is where a lot of the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00216-00055542-00055809 questions come in you know again it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00217-00055810-00055979 becomes sort of Sketchup and it becomes
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00224-00057340-00057603 interested in trying to question and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00225-00057604-00057767 uncover by actually making these
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00228-00058159-00058341 of a development process and then it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00229-00058341-00058575 somehow ends up into technology what
+xJpau8VAMHU-00230-00058576-00058757 we're looking at here is the way that
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00232-00059166-00059346 to say every domestic space has these
+xJpau8VAMHU-00233-00059347-00059523 five categories so bedroom office
+xJpau8VAMHU-00234-00059524-00059754 kitchen living room bathroom which I
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00236-00059899-00060174 questions right like I mean does a house
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00239-00060583-00060825 you know an office and a bedroom and a
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00245-00062062-00062304 is basically a list of all of the
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00248-00062791-00062961 from research papers and I mean a lot of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00249-00062962-00063240 my research ends up being this sort of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00250-00063241-00063517 scrolling through boring looking PDFs
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00253-00063954-00064113 interesting because for me this is more
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00260-00065548-00065784 where the engineers were incredibly
+xJpau8VAMHU-00261-00065785-00065951 upset that mailboxes appeared in oh
+xJpau8VAMHU-00262-00065952-00066162 ladies in their spaces and that simply
+xJpau8VAMHU-00263-00066163-00066381 was because mailbox was categorized as
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00266-00066772-00067029 I think was really a pointer to how
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00268-00067219-00067431 might seem right but you know there's so
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00271-00067914-00068315 doesn't really fit in these spaces and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00272-00068316-00068838 same here this is besides sort of the 3d
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00275-00069264-00069588 have a texture it's just white here to
+xJpau8VAMHU-00276-00069589-00069794 sort of gain a next step in photorealism
+xJpau8VAMHU-00277-00069795-00070088 as the researchers here called it they
+xJpau8VAMHU-00278-00070089-00070284 also had another batch of files which
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00280-00070435-00070791 these three objects and here for me was
+xJpau8VAMHU-00281-00070792-00071112 interesting his top right which is this
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00283-00071449-00071586 don't know if any of you recognize this
+xJpau8VAMHU-00284-00071587-00071754 but this is FoxNews sort of the
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00286-00071992-00072338 and all of the textures that will be
+xJpau8VAMHU-00287-00072339-00072630 used for TVs were Fox News and again
+xJpau8VAMHU-00288-00072631-00072774 that's something that on the one hand
+xJpau8VAMHU-00289-00072775-00073149 can't just be an accident it's not so
+xJpau8VAMHU-00290-00073150-00073368 much about that being you know mal
+xJpau8VAMHU-00291-00073369-00073584 intentioned but it still points to how
+xJpau8VAMHU-00292-00073585-00073731 these datasets are put together they
+xJpau8VAMHU-00293-00073732-00073988 aren't so much seen as a political
+xJpau8VAMHU-00294-00073989-00074166 problem or cultural philosophical
+xJpau8VAMHU-00295-00074167-00074373 question but much more as an engineering
+xJpau8VAMHU-00296-00074374-00074592 question so you end up with something
+xJpau8VAMHU-00297-00074593-00074778 that is deeply politically colored but
+xJpau8VAMHU-00298-00074779-00074961 maybe that wasn't the intention and I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00299-00074962-00075075 think that's where a lot of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00300-00075076-00075251 I mean for me at least challenges and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00301-00075252-00075488 dangers come from with technology and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00302-00075489-00075690 the way it's developed in an engineering
+xJpau8VAMHU-00303-00075691-00076098 vacuum so the final film is called a
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00305-00076393-00076643 the way was shown at the Alpha steam and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00306-00076644-00076918 it's it's trying to unpack this data set
+xJpau8VAMHU-00307-00076919-00077247 so I've sort of built a world with all
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00309-00077542-00077738 and you sort of move through it as a
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00318-00079585-00079769 like when is the floor also a chair sort
+xJpau8VAMHU-00319-00079770-00079971 of questions that feel really banal but
+xJpau8VAMHU-00320-00079972-00080150 actually become really crucial when we
+xJpau8VAMHU-00321-00080151-00080385 try to name things that are supposed to
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00323-00080551-00080685 sort of being that's supposed to
+xJpau8VAMHU-00324-00080686-00081180 cohabitate so this is sort of a cut of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00325-00081181-00081476 this scene that I've built the only
+xJpau8VAMHU-00326-00081477-00081603 things that aren't from the database
+xJpau8VAMHU-00327-00081604-00081926 already sort of random Magritte's
+xJpau8VAMHU-00328-00081927-00082375 paintings that I've put in there and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00329-00082376-00082694 I'll end with a quick trailer of the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00331-00088074-00088745 that's it thank you thank you
+xJpau8VAMHU-00332-00088746-00089324 Simona are there questions of the public
+xJpau8VAMHU-00333-00089325-00089723 we are not gonna elaborate a lot on
+xJpau8VAMHU-00334-00089724-00090162 every project it's a quick question one
+xJpau8VAMHU-00335-00090163-00090912 for the road no I want to go then for
+xJpau8VAMHU-00336-00090913-00091422 one what was the weirdest that you found
+xJpau8VAMHU-00337-00091423-00091968 in these databases yeah I think weird is
+xJpau8VAMHU-00338-00091969-00092196 this difficult I mean there's a bunch I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00339-00092197-00092472 think the TV was pretty strange and the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00340-00092473-00092661 mailboxes
+xJpau8VAMHU-00341-00092662-00092973 but other than that it was more in the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00342-00092974-00093261 categories that existence and how many
+xJpau8VAMHU-00343-00093262-00093450 objects of them there were so for
+xJpau8VAMHU-00344-00093451-00093642 example there is a category guns and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00345-00093643-00093846 there's a category rifle which already
+xJpau8VAMHU-00346-00093847-00094125 discussed believe that is a domestic
+xJpau8VAMHU-00347-00094126-00094443 category right and with the knives for
+xJpau8VAMHU-00348-00094444-00094554 example there were a lot of sort of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00349-00094555-00094716 medieval bloody knives and things like
+xJpau8VAMHU-00350-00094717-00094944 that so I don't even know if that's
+xJpau8VAMHU-00351-00094945-00095123 surprising or if that's to be expected
+xJpau8VAMHU-00352-00095124-00095514 knowing where the data comes from so I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00353-00095515-00095706 think also while looking I went back and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00354-00095707-00095847 force this you know it is wonderfully
+xJpau8VAMHU-00355-00095848-00096069 absurd and oh that's actually maybe not
+xJpau8VAMHU-00356-00096070-00096285 that absurd but something that is
+xJpau8VAMHU-00357-00096286-00096516 exactly the world that were that we're
+xJpau8VAMHU-00358-00096517-00096936 building with this sort of data thank
+xJpau8VAMHU-00359-00096937-00097713 you maybe in the meantime yeah this is
+xJpau8VAMHU-00360-00097714-00097968 looking at the u.s. I tried to give it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00361-00097969-00098529 for the rest of the public I was
+xJpau8VAMHU-00362-00098530-00098763 thinking about the region no yeah it's
+xJpau8VAMHU-00363-00098764-00098961 there did you also find regional or
+xJpau8VAMHU-00364-00098962-00099282 other regional like African or Asian yes
+xJpau8VAMHU-00365-00099283-00099618 completely different different living of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00366-00099619-00099900 course exactly and I think that's I mean
+xJpau8VAMHU-00367-00099901-00100028 one of the things that I'm personally
+xJpau8VAMHU-00368-00100029-00100398 interested in why I'm doing this this
+xJpau8VAMHU-00369-00100399-00100683 data set is developed at the UK but it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00370-00100684-00100946 still looks like a data set from the US
+xJpau8VAMHU-00371-00100947-00101240 I mean you see this on on the TV
+xJpau8VAMHU-00372-00101241-00101528 screened mailboxes as well look like US
+xJpau8VAMHU-00373-00101529-00101944 mailboxes like the little flag so that
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00376-00102366-00102752 Western yeah I mean there's I can only
+xJpau8VAMHU-00377-00102753-00102961 speculate on why probably because of the
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00379-00103118-00103342 is also really Western which a lot of it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00380-00103343-00103804 is Sketchup and games this is one of the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00381-00103805-00103942 questions I asked you to researchers as
+xJpau8VAMHU-00382-00103943-00104080 well how do you deal with this in terms
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00387-00104949-00105152 there's a limitation right where maybe
+xJpau8VAMHU-00388-00105153-00105374 chair I mean we can use any word but
+xJpau8VAMHU-00389-00105375-00105527 like isn't actually that word and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00390-00105528-00105739 there's many more ways of talking about
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00392-00105900-00106234 or maybe it's context based I mean I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00393-00106235-00106397 didn't really have an answer except for
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00397-00107058-00107227 recognition or it's about we just need
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00400-00107772-00107963 I mean I'm personally skeptical of that
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00402-00108252-00108446 lies in trying to generalize like the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00403-00108447-00108727 more specific they try to be with any of
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00405-00108927-00109223 at trying to answering it it's more
+xJpau8VAMHU-00406-00109224-00109411 you're trying to generalize I think it
+xJpau8VAMHU-00407-00109413-00109564 gets incredibly difficult and you sort
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00411-00110178-00110377 with such a complex and saying amount of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00412-00110378-00110683 data that that doesn't work either and
+xJpau8VAMHU-00413-00110684-00110876 so now they're trying to work with a
+xJpau8VAMHU-00414-00110877-00111181 Chinese startup to use that sort of
+xJpau8VAMHU-00415-00111182-00111466 architectural data but looking at that
+xJpau8VAMHU-00416-00111467-00111623 data set as well is something what I'm
+xJpau8VAMHU-00417-00111624-00111722 doing now and actually looks really
+xJpau8VAMHU-00418-00111723-00111947 similar it's just better resolution like
+xJpau8VAMHU-00419-00111948-00112223 the data is built better and again I can
+xJpau8VAMHU-00420-00112224-00112343 only speculate sort of you know you're
+xJpau8VAMHU-00421-00112344-00112700 trying to they're not architectural II
+xJpau8VAMHU-00422-00112701-00113002 built apartments that these models then
+xJpau8VAMHU-00423-00113003-00113219 come from from from a Chinese database
+xJpau8VAMHU-00424-00113220-00113471 but they're from a developer so I mean I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00425-00113472-00113606 guess you know maybe you're the new
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+xJpau8VAMHU-00427-00113763-00114113 build a certain apartment that actually
+xJpau8VAMHU-00428-00114114-00114283 maybe has nothing to do with the culture
+xJpau8VAMHU-00429-00114284-00114377 I don't know I mean these are only
+xJpau8VAMHU-00430-00114378-00114536 speculations but I mean
+xJpau8VAMHU-00431-00114538-00114734 exactly I think what should be talked
+xJpau8VAMHU-00432-00114735-00114993 about with these data sets yeah thank
+xJpau8VAMHU-00433-00114994-00115401 you thank you another question
+xJpau8VAMHU-00434-00115402-00115709 no thank you what we did what came out
+xJpau8VAMHU-00435-00115710-00115960 of your data set
+xJpau8VAMHU-00436-00115961-00116358 not much no my data set
+xJpau8VAMHU-00437-00116358-00116684 yeah dataset exploded like the the one
+xJpau8VAMHU-00438-00116685-00116909 that earth is locked into with all the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00439-00116910-00117236 different language isn't I think you
+xJpau8VAMHU-00440-00117238-00117663 can't compute this I at least I can't
+xJpau8VAMHU-00441-00117664-00117969 so yeah and then there's the computer
+xJpau8VAMHU-00442-00117970-00118245 laptop with chair chair and I'm a chair
+xJpau8VAMHU-00443-00118246-00118510 amateur who's a chair we don't know
+xJpau8VAMHU-00444-00118511-00119036 maybe Simone knows yeah stupid the
+xJpau8VAMHU-00445-00119038-00119303 mailbox house I don't even know why
+xJpau8VAMHU-00446-00119304-00119745 Julie's the cat with was laughing so
+xJpau8VAMHU-00447-00119746-00119943 hard I had to include it but I didn't
+xJpau8VAMHU-00448-00119944-00120219 get a joke for it so this is the cat is
+xJpau8VAMHU-00449-00120220-00120426 among cities fruit doesn't make sense
+xJpau8VAMHU-00450-00120427-00120693 cat is no fruit I have difficulties with
+xJpau8VAMHU-00451-00120694-00121139 data sets do I love robot how do you
+xJpau8VAMHU-00452-00121140-00121364 like my interior it's pretty bland yeah
+xJpau8VAMHU-00453-00121365-00121845 but you should see the grid there and I
+xJpau8VAMHU-00454-00121846-00122930 process therefore thank you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00000-00000200-00000743 what's up
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00001-00000744-00000871 okay thanks everyone we're gonna go
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00002-00000872-00001158 ahead and get started so we can uh
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00003-00001159-00001366 save that 15 minutes and put it into our
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00004-00001367-00001543 lunch time
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00005-00001544-00001647 this afternoon we're going to kick
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00008-00001984-00002118 infrastructure
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00009-00002119-00002342 and we're very pleased to have
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00010-00002343-00002542 a group of folks representing
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00011-00002543-00002895 sectors and their ice hacks
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00013-00003088-00003415 bob dix who's uh the vp
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00014-00003415-00003638 uh for
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00015-00003639-00003759 governmental affairs and critical
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00016-00003760-00003911 infrastructure protection at juniper and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00017-00003911-00004079 he's also the chair of the partnership
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00018-00004079-00004159 for
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00019-00004160-00004319 critical infrastructure security so i'm
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00020-00004320-00004431 going to turn it over to bob he's going
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00021-00004432-00004615 to make a few remarks and he's going to
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00022-00004616-00005343 moderate this panel thanks
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00023-00005344-00006183 good morning everyone
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00024-00006184-00006286 first of all i appreciate the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00025-00006287-00006439 opportunity to be a part of this panel
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00026-00006440-00006678 discussion this morning certainly
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00027-00006679-00006863 the opening keynote speeches and the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00028-00006864-00007031 first panel were
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00029-00007031-00007214 quite good quite instructive and set a
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00030-00007215-00007406 high bar for us so we will do our best
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00031-00007408-00007687 to try and meet that uh that expectation
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00032-00007688-00007839 it's good to see so many friends and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00033-00007840-00008031 colleagues in the audience both from in
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00034-00008031-00008255 this industry and government
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00035-00008256-00008455 i'd like to thank the white house and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00036-00008456-00008767 dhs department of commerce and nist
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00037-00008768-00008951 for establishing this event today that
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00038-00008952-00009119 launches
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00039-00009120-00009303 a discussion around an important topic
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00040-00009304-00009487 consistent with the expectations of the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00041-00009488-00009678 executive order and much of the work
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00042-00009679-00009791 that many of us have done in this
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00043-00009792-00010039 community for quite some period of time
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00044-00010040-00010206 i'd like to also thank our distinguished
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00045-00010207-00010351 panelists for taking time out of their
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00046-00010352-00010599 busy schedules to join us today
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00047-00010600-00010742 and most importantly i'd like to thank
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00048-00010743-00010887 each of you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00049-00010888-00011031 those of you that have joined us here in
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00050-00011032-00011127 the room
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00051-00011128-00011295 those of you that are joining us on the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00052-00011296-00011527 webcast for participating in this
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00053-00011528-00011663 discussion for
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00054-00011664-00011870 this topic is important enough
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00055-00011871-00012078 that requires all of us to be engaged
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00056-00012079-00012263 sharing ideas
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00057-00012264-00012423 debating ideas
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00058-00012424-00012583 and driving solutions that can make a
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00059-00012584-00012751 difference
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00060-00012752-00013022 so today this panel is titled
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00061-00013023-00013183 current threat environment for critical
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00062-00013184-00013486 infrastructure and industry perspective
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00063-00013487-00013655 and in the context of the discussion
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00065-00013887-00014175 panel over the next 75 minutes or so
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00067-00014391-00014551 themes
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00068-00014552-00014663 and frankly i think they're very
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00069-00014663-00014855 consistent it was good segue from the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00070-00014856-00015030 previous panel
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00072-00015200-00015430 and drive this dialogue
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00077-00016223-00016335 about
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00079-00016495-00016822 private sector experience
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00081-00017040-00017239 consensus-based standards and best
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00083-00017368-00017486 discussed
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00085-00017656-00017830 that a little bit more here but
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00086-00017831-00018007 i think that it's not well known how
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00088-00018231-00018414 that particular space and has been for
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00089-00018415-00018671 some time on a global basis
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00090-00018672-00018822 and thirdly we want to talk about from
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00094-00019280-00019463 investment and resilience
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00095-00019464-00019622 i think it's important for us to note
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00102-00020751-00021111 talk about that a little bit today
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00103-00021112-00021383 interestingly on saturday morning
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00120-00024704-00024839 that
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00134-00027304-00027439 that have been around
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00136-00027624-00027774 and we want to talk about our common
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00140-00028295-00028439 same direction
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00141-00028439-00028614 to improve the protection preparedness
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00143-00028775-00028918 infrastructure
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00144-00028919-00029079 and how this initiative around building
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00146-00029280-00029407 that i think has the greatest
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00147-00029408-00029631 opportunity to address the 80 percent
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00150-00030039-00030318 this and delivering greater resilience
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00151-00030319-00030518 in our critical infrastructure
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00152-00030519-00030727 so with that i'm going to turn this over
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00153-00030727-00030862 to our panel
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00154-00030863-00031039 i've asked them each to tell you a
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00155-00031039-00031255 little bit about themselves
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00156-00031256-00031390 as they give their introduce
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00157-00031391-00031655 introductory remarks and after each has
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00158-00031656-00031839 had that opportunity then we'll gauge in
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00159-00031839-00031958 a little bit of dialogue here at the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00160-00031960-00032158 panel so again thank you for joining us
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00161-00032160-00032318 and let me begin by turning it over to
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00162-00032319-00032527 scott algiere who is the executive
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00163-00032527-00032790 director of the iti sac
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00164-00032791-00032943 thank you bob
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00165-00032944-00033087 thank you for the opportunity to be on
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00166-00033088-00033295 the panel uh thank you to nist and the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00167-00033296-00033543 team for putting this session together i
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00168-00033544-00033743 appreciate the opportunity to be here
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00169-00033744-00034071 today to talk about the iti sac
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00170-00034072-00034367 i'm also the vice chair of the national
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00171-00034368-00034574 council of ice axe which
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00172-00034575-00034831 is responsible for bringing together the
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00174-00035032-00035374 sharing and and analysis mechanisms
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00175-00035375-00035646 um together to talk uh to collaborate
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00176-00035647-00035807 enhance information sharing across the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00177-00035808-00036143 isac community as well
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00178-00036144-00036231 so
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00179-00036232-00036455 along your topics of innovation our
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00180-00036456-00036655 collaboration
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00181-00036656-00036830 innovation and collaboration consensus
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00182-00036831-00037079 standards and practices and resilience i
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00183-00037080-00037302 would like to touch on each of those uh
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00184-00037303-00037639 pretty quickly in my time here so the
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00188-00038263-00038471 is to bring members to together to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00423-00090527-00090711 thank you very much scott we'll now turn
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00424-00090712-00090943 over to mark michael arsenault who is
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00425-00090944-00091206 here representing the water isaac thank
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00426-00091207-00091511 you bob
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00427-00091512-00091743 my name is michael arson
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00428-00091744-00092006 managing director of the water ice act
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-00636-00135991-00136143 morning deborah thank you for being here
+xL9JbYlM0VM-00637-00136144-00136375 thank you very much um i'd really like
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01058-00228576-00228727 collateral damage
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01059-00228728-00229039 and i'll leave it at that thank you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01060-00229040-00229279 thank you tim and our final presenter
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01061-00229280-00229391 this morning
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01062-00229392-00229558 is representing is joe vines
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01070-00230823-00231006 we're very pleased to have joe here
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01071-00231007-00231142 representing the communication sector
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01072-00231144-00231239 isaac joe
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01073-00231240-00231487 great thank you bob and um i appreciate
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01074-00231488-00231639 uh being part of
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01075-00231640-00231863 this distinguished panel and uh thanks
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01076-00231864-00232023 very much to the department of commerce
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01077-00232023-00232206 and nist for inviting the ice axe into
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01165-00249352-00249591 thank you
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01250-00265776-00265958 these efforts are now paying off and we
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01256-00266728-00267015 responsibilities in summary i would
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01257-00267016-00267167 really like to encourage this panel in
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01261-00267648-00267895 but also on what works
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01266-00268624-00268751 thank you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01267-00268752-00268871 thank you joe
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01268-00268872-00269015 and thank you to all the panel members
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01269-00269016-00269463 for your remarks so look
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01278-00270968-00271206 there's a broader stakeholder community
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01279-00271207-00271327 out there
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01283-00271864-00272167 doesn't have i.t staffs
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01292-00273592-00273758 and make them available to that broader
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01293-00273759-00274015 stakeholder community to assist them as
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01294-00274016-00274167 they attempt to improve their own
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01295-00274168-00274351 protection profiles
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01296-00274352-00274558 so what i think i'd like to do
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01297-00274559-00274775 now is ask each of you to reflect and i
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01298-00274776-00274975 talked about earlier there's this whole
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01300-00275264-00275439 collaboration and engagement on
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01301-00275440-00275734 developing consensus-based standards and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01302-00275735-00275975 best practices has a long history this
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01305-00276376-00276534 it's not the intent to invent something
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01307-00276696-00276895 but instead to leverage the experiences
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01310-00277352-00277558 stakeholder community so i wonder if
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01311-00277559-00277751 each of you would take a moment to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01314-00278240-00278439 with that process of developing
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01315-00278440-00278599 consensus-based standards and how
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01316-00278600-00278791 they've made a difference in improving
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01317-00278792-00278919 the protection profile in your
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01318-00278920-00279087 organizations and your companies in your
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01320-00279311-00279471 that has worked from a collaborative
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01321-00279472-00279830 standpoint and in a global context
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01322-00279831-00280015 so who would like to start and share
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01323-00280016-00280510 some thoughts around that tim thank you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01324-00280511-00280830 no worries um so my first experience in
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01326-00280952-00281134 bulk power system
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01327-00281135-00281327 was in orlando at a standards drafting
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01328-00281328-00281447 team meeting
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01329-00281448-00281671 my actual first regulatory experience
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01330-00281672-00281879 goes back several decades before that
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01331-00281880-00282143 when i was starting to work with the nrc
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01335-00282728-00282791 and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01336-00282792-00282975 that was a different realm so i step
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01342-00283920-00284103 drafting team members who are selected
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01344-00284359-00284551 other people like myself i was just
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01345-00284552-00284655 observing
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01346-00284656-00284967 and the dialogue was just incredible uh
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01347-00284968-00285127 very very
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01348-00285128-00285343 robust you might say i don't want that
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01349-00285344-00285487 standard i want it this way i want it
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01357-00286856-00286999 and i'm familiar with a lot of
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01360-00287368-00287543 know sometimes i get my documents back
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01386-00293559-00293719 i think that was inflammatory i think
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01387-00293720-00293951 that was bogus no you redress every
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01392-00294680-00294863 look back and say you know
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01395-00295168-00295310 you know what
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01396-00295311-00295551 it's right this is where we need to be
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01403-00296752-00296927 you're going to be reading an awful lot
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01405-00297168-00297334 and they're well prepared for that uh
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01406-00297335-00297510 who who else
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01407-00297511-00297647 who else would like to comment on this
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01408-00297648-00297847 on your experience and maybe if i could
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01409-00297848-00298054 just add you ask you to add to it too
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01416-00299311-00299567 yeah um i can really give you i think a
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01490-00315896-00316134 government's opportunity to really
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01493-00316464-00316639 thank you anyone else
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01494-00316640-00316847 but i'll just comment you know
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01513-00320440-00320527 uh
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01523-00322720-00322975 that so i think that all contributes to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01525-00323216-00323375 and that's that's really where it comes
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01528-00323648-00323839 just note that the presenters will all
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01529-00323840-00323999 stay after for a few minutes as you're
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01530-00324000-00324143 going to lunch to help explain any of
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01531-00324144-00324399 the acronyms that you wrote down and you
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01535-00324848-00324982 scott did have something
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01536-00324983-00325287 sure so um i i talked a little bit about
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01545-00327080-00327158 that
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01549-00328048-00328310 that yes i think the effort is needed
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01555-00329311-00329519 know the it's going to take uh eight
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01562-00330600-00330743 mitigation
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01563-00330744-00330854 practices
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01565-00331144-00331406 and then the the the other comment
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01567-00331624-00331815 ahead material um
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01573-00332952-00333127 um and i thought that was kind of
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01588-00336096-00336303 um but when we do the messaging we need
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01595-00337504-00337695 know it's um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01596-00337696-00337830 the the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01597-00337831-00337999 i don't know where the time frame is or
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01605-00339320-00339519 good point
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01607-00339792-00339910 voluntary
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01608-00339911-00340127 well industry standards
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01609-00340128-00340319 and that's
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01610-00340320-00340671 just to put it simply
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01618-00342159-00342375 and so this this process
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01619-00342376-00342582 uh to develop the framework and the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01620-00342583-00342815 other components of the executive order
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01622-00343083-00343319 um the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01623-00343320-00343454 i think
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01636-00345935-00346199 and implement standards um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01637-00346200-00346310 so
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01638-00346311-00346478 you know i hope that
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01639-00346479-00346591 the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01640-00346592-00346887 ssas that um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01641-00346888-00347095 will take the framework and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01642-00347096-00347254 and work with their sector coordinating
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01643-00347255-00347478 councils and what not to to
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01644-00347479-00347799 to spread the word and get buy-in
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01645-00347800-00348095 i hope they look at
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01646-00348096-00348230 best practices in terms of
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01647-00348231-00348430 communications
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01648-00348431-00348682 and recognize who their audiences
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01649-00348683-00348910 are thank you very much and let me just
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01650-00348911-00349087 take a moment put the plug in
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01651-00349088-00349295 for each of you for those of you that
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01652-00349296-00349454 have had good experiences in
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01653-00349455-00349591 participating particularly in industry
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01663-00351559-00351799 experiences as examples tangible real
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01666-00352248-00352463 of these solutions i think would be very
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01667-00352464-00352687 useful and and obviously the this folks
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01668-00352688-00352863 can speak for themselves but i think
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01675-00354024-00354191 those experiences where we've actually
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01679-00354664-00354799 tangible examples i think would be
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01680-00354800-00355006 valuable bob can i add something please
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01681-00355007-00355271 i think this process is so unique that i
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01682-00355272-00355454 think a lot of people are saying yeah
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01683-00355455-00355575 right
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01684-00355576-00355839 you really you know
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01685-00355840-00355982 i mean i've seen that
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01686-00355983-00356239 amongst my own colleagues um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01687-00356240-00356463 we'll believe it when we see it so it is
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01688-00356464-00356647 really important to
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01689-00356648-00356806 to
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01690-00356807-00357030 to uh take seriously the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01691-00357031-00357199 the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01692-00357200-00357358 opportunity to submit
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01694-00357648-00357823 incentives i think
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01698-00358568-00358815 but i think if we can be creative and
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01703-00359616-00359823 and this is a fairly rapidly moving
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01717-00362431-00362591 accordingly i think it would be valuable
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01718-00362592-00362758 for each of you to take a moment to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01727-00364735-00365175 right i guess um i'll start with that so
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01730-00365759-00366134 diverse right we still have um
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01737-00367583-00368071 know malicious insiders um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01738-00368072-00368278 i've not seen um
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01749-00370352-00370487 the the
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01778-00377231-00377582 so i think from where i say and what i'm
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01806-00383600-00383847 there and it's only going to get worse
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01807-00383848-00384167 so being able to stay on top of
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01808-00384168-00384399 intelligence and situational awareness
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01861-00396920-00397006 to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01866-00398183-00398415 all of that so we we have to look at it
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01868-00398631-00398767 perspective
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01869-00398768-00399127 thank you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01870-00399128-00399358 i think i think basic hygiene will take
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01874-00400128-00400271 and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01875-00400272-00400463 luckily
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01880-00401552-00401767 and um
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01883-00402231-00402423 are
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01884-00402424-00402534 um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01885-00402535-00402743 i'm not sure that cyber attack could do
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01906-00407392-00407510 i think one of the
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01908-00407744-00407830 is
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01911-00408279-00408527 sound strange to this crowd but
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01912-00408528-00408623 um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01913-00408624-00408854 if if this isn't your industry
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01914-00408855-00409327 and you're busy running your business um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01915-00409328-00409567 it can be hard to really fathom that
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01917-00409704-00409870 might actually infiltrate your system
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01919-00410088-00410214 um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01920-00410215-00410366 so i think that's something to take into
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01921-00410367-00410582 account as we as we think about threats
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01922-00410583-00410759 and risks
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01923-00410760-00410934 thank you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01924-00410935-00411110 joe or tim
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01925-00411112-00411374 i'll just say uh to add to this you know
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01926-00411375-00411759 our our threats are are not unlike
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01927-00411760-00411918 other enterprises
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01928-00411919-00412182 uh threats i i'm not going to go into
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01929-00412183-00412399 you know major specifics but
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01930-00412400-00412655 um you know we look at as an industry
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01933-00412952-00413207 and uh our engineering staffs uh
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01934-00413208-00413455 architecture staffs do a good job of
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01935-00413456-00413670 building uh resiliencies into our
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01936-00413671-00413814 networks so
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01937-00413815-00414207 um it's it's uh it's pretty difficult to
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01938-00414208-00414374 um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01939-00414375-00414726 take our our networks down um as others
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01940-00414727-00414910 have mentioned uh based on the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01941-00414912-00415143 architectures that uh and and safeguards
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01942-00415143-00415391 that we've built into our our systems
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01943-00415392-00415614 um so that's that's
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01944-00415615-00415774 thank you tim
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01945-00415775-00415982 um i'll just point you back to the first
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01947-00416143-00416326 powerpoint slides um
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01948-00416327-00416478 this one right here uh that one that one
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01949-00416479-00416687 right there as a matter of fact the left
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01950-00416688-00416855 and right of boom is informative on this
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01951-00416856-00417087 because uh we prefer to live our lives
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01952-00417088-00417255 in the left but we have to realize that
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01958-00418152-00418382 exploited so they did
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01959-00418383-00418582 so microsoft and oracle does the same
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01960-00418583-00418847 thing sas does the same thing aeiou does
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01965-00419680-00419839 i point you to the
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01966-00419839-00420095 various documents that nerc has already
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01967-00420096-00420270 published high impact
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01971-00420784-00420975 impact resiliency task force report
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01972-00420976-00421166 which is a real page turner remarkably
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01973-00421167-00421247 enough
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01974-00421247-00421543 uh cyber attack task it is actually you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01975-00421543-00421718 i mean you don't even have to be tired
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01976-00421719-00421887 it's a great read
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01977-00421888-00422135 but significant event
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01979-00422392-00422575 from that report and i urge you to read
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01986-00423967-00424166 the new normal you get back to a point
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01987-00424167-00424351 where it's now acceptable to consider
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01988-00424352-00424647 yourself okay fine i'm kinda recovered
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01989-00424647-00424855 right i'm gonna get it back as far as i
+xL9JbYlM0VM-01990-00424856-00425031 can go
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01996-00426000-00426103 normal
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-01999-00426519-00426703 and also i would say that the adversary
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02002-00427080-00427359 but they're good and and oddly enough
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02009-00428600-00428807 and allowing ourselves to fail we have
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02010-00428808-00429007 other adversaries who are really really
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02011-00429008-00429135 really good and they'll correct the
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02014-00429447-00429622 so those are those are kind of cool i
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02035-00433919-00434039 and i would tap him on the shoulder i'm
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02036-00434039-00434222 going to do it again don't touch and he
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02037-00434223-00434407 would and i'm like what are you
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02038-00434408-00434670 challenged so email
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02040-00434935-00435191 most difficult thing to take care of um
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02042-00435392-00435647 let's let's ramco you they had no idea
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02043-00435647-00435822 what i meant and i said how about
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02044-00435823-00436031 schmooning let's just shmoon you down to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02047-00436560-00436718 outlook you've got no contacts you've
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02048-00436719-00436870 got nothing
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02050-00437080-00437295 anything i i defy you to be able to
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02052-00437488-00437695 to exercise that that's a bang that's a
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02053-00437696-00437847 boom you have to pretend like you're on
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02054-00437847-00438031 the other side and then the last thing
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02055-00438032-00438310 is uh diversity is your friend bulk
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02056-00438312-00438551 power system in north america i if i had
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02060-00439239-00439391 out on the bulk power system in north
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02061-00439392-00439510 america i don't think i could come up
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02062-00439512-00439783 with a number just transformers alone
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02063-00439784-00440087 made all over the world aged from 60
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02064-00440088-00440407 years on down to yesterday
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02065-00440408-00440655 just the plethora of diversity makes it
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02066-00440656-00440927 hard to scale many types of attacks
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02067-00440928-00441095 humans are easier to scale and attack
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02068-00441096-00441231 against because guess what we all got
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02069-00441232-00441543 dna we all get sick h1n1 scared the hell
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02070-00441543-00441775 out of everybody right that's a scalable
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02071-00441776-00441951 attack across a homogeneous attack
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02072-00441952-00442055 surface
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02073-00442056-00442303 so and yet homogeneity is desired
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02074-00442304-00442535 because operational costs drive way way
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02075-00442535-00442663 down when you have a homogeneous
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02076-00442664-00442910 environment so bulk power system doing
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02077-00442912-00443135 pretty good today thank you very much
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02078-00443135-00443310 thank you tim
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02079-00443312-00443575 thank you tim and and thank you so look
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02094-00446256-00446375 so for us
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02099-00447328-00447575 to let us all as we leave here today and
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02100-00447576-00447895 launch this phase of this activity let's
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+xL9JbYlM0VM-02102-00448119-00448279 meet this challenge would you please
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02103-00448280-00448455 join me in a warm thank you to this
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02104-00448456-00448599 distinguished panel of subject matter
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02105-00448600-00449079 experts
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02106-00449080-00449255 and thank you for having us
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02107-00449256-00449439 thanks bob we're going to break down for
+xL9JbYlM0VM-02108-00449439-00449664 lunch
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+xputoM3zBU0-00015-00004732-00005254 t hey Murray hora kiraku tokoto welcome
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+xputoM3zBU0-00026-00007675-00007998 are connecting through to us today just
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+xputoM3zBU0-00051-00013816-00014011 out of the way and Kirikou - my name is
+xputoM3zBU0-00052-00014012-00014244 maryam Sesa I'm the Tory caucus manager
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+xputoM3zBU0-00055-00014656-00014785 acknowledging that we're our two
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+xputoM3zBU0-00058-00015316-00015580 well so in today's session I warmly
+xputoM3zBU0-00059-00015581-00015856 warmly welcome Yvonne and who is from
+xputoM3zBU0-00060-00015857-00016012 help and I let her do more of her
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+xputoM3zBU0-00071-00018282-00018572 presentation thank you Kiera million
+xputoM3zBU0-00072-00018573-00018899 sokurah Coto my name is Yvonne and I'm
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+xputoM3zBU0-00113-00029458-00029639 I think Miriam's going to be providing
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+xputoM3zBU0-00250-00066206-00066472 I'm a how woman and Here I am and
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+xputoM3zBU0-00265-00069791-00070159 person during this work is I mean it
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+xputoM3zBU0-00269-00070813-00070966 humility this is something that I
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+xputoM3zBU0-00286-00074741-00074935 transmission of rules and value is
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+xputoM3zBU0-00301-00078936-00079204 I think the other the other thing that I
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+xputoM3zBU0-00304-00079998-00080366 this work for this long has meant that I
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+xputoM3zBU0-00340-00090699-00090907 very you know poor foot when it comes to
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+xputoM3zBU0-00370-00099158-00099454 is you know partly the reason why they
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+xputoM3zBU0-00381-00102123-00102368 this is also this is how I see it when
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+xputoM3zBU0-00480-00130017-00130349 you know judges and because survivors
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+xputoM3zBU0-00514-00138498-00138734 there's also you know something I've
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+xputoM3zBU0-00525-00141255-00141557 although you know as professionals we
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+xputoM3zBU0-00533-00143325-00143774 information yeah really important so
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+xputoM3zBU0-00538-00144756-00145104 really really important
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+xputoM3zBU0-00541-00145861-00146094 and we all know I hope I'm gonna say
+xputoM3zBU0-00542-00146095-00146291 that most people must be aware that
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+xputoM3zBU0-00544-00146572-00146859 not controllable they're out of the out
+xputoM3zBU0-00545-00146860-00147069 of legal professionals control you know
+xputoM3zBU0-00546-00147070-00147390 most most of the clients who've been
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+xputoM3zBU0-00561-00151498-00151794 has other survivors control it's our
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+xputoM3zBU0-00577-00155977-00156129 it's other people it's not going to be
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+xputoM3zBU0-00581-00156757-00156981 people will just need more advocacy and
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+xputoM3zBU0-00583-00157225-00157509 main thing that's important is that we
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+xputoM3zBU0-00586-00158230-00158370 and because the Toronto is often
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+xputoM3zBU0-00588-00158569-00159015 me I really want I really encourage
+xputoM3zBU0-00589-00159016-00159414 survivors to still make plans to not put
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+xputoM3zBU0-00591-00159709-00159993 identify what they might need to heal
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+xputoM3zBU0-00600-00162238-00162408 really important because the Health's of
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+xputoM3zBU0-00604-00163418-00164120 so let's begin okay so from here I'm
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+xputoM3zBU0-00623-00170241-00170489 because there's so many things along the
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+xputoM3zBU0-00675-00185020-00185296 and then with a child and a parent we've
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+xputoM3zBU0-00774-00211182-00211423 she said she'd also started doing dance
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+xputoM3zBU0-00842-00228613-00228804 I mean they never happen at a good time
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+xputoM3zBU0-00848-00230019-00230246 asking you know but legally there are
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+xputoM3zBU0-00966-00265376-00265554 we we can't intervene and meditation
+xputoM3zBU0-00967-00265555-00265894 that's hard as a practitioner to witness
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+xputoM3zBU0-00970-00266359-00266718 I mean we're asking a lot of survivors
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+xputoM3zBU0-01004-00275390-00275737 important too because they will you know
+xputoM3zBU0-01005-00275738-00275980 I mean we can't always guarantee that we
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+xputoM3zBU0-01037-00285449-00285655 doesn't change that he did do that and
+xputoM3zBU0-01038-00285656-00285871 there are people that do believe her
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+xputoM3zBU0-01069-00292805-00293215 there but yeah generally it's then it's
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+xputoM3zBU0-01198-00326635-00327143 all right at the end I got a bit Lawson
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+xputoM3zBU0-01281-00349270-00349587 you for there so we've got a few
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+xputoM3zBU0-01356-00369113-00369466 when I you know I whenever I am Mari
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+xputoM3zBU0-01392-00377730-00378017 is a you know within the context of
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+xputoM3zBU0-01423-00385689-00385919 you know but there's always you know
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+xputoM3zBU0-01544-00415910-00416077 can I can't ask because at the moment
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+xputoM3zBU0-01556-00418639-00418891 yeah and it would also be I would be
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+xputoM3zBU0-01655-00447031-00447197 making yeah
+xputoM3zBU0-01656-00447197-00447543 last last wrap up questions ones are
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+xputoM3zBU0-01658-00447729-00448185 your service okay so they can call how
+xputoM3zBU0-01659-00448185-00448710 Auckland and they can ask - they can ask
+xputoM3zBU0-01660-00448710-00448902 to be in contact with the core support
+xputoM3zBU0-01661-00448903-00449141 service so you just call our 800 number
+xputoM3zBU0-01662-00449142-00449660 yeah so I'll just put in the chat your
+xputoM3zBU0-01663-00449662-00449892 web your website so that everyone can
+xputoM3zBU0-01664-00449893-00450270 find that and and the last question is
+xputoM3zBU0-01665-00450271-00450471 how do how do people train to become a
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+xputoM3zBU0-01667-00450688-00450960 care strays you put in place around this
+xputoM3zBU0-01668-00450960-00451468 work yeah so how would you train um I'm
+xputoM3zBU0-01669-00451470-00451785 doing it I'm just I was trained by the
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+xputoM3zBU0-01675-00453306-00453518 one of their clients and they would like
+xputoM3zBU0-01676-00453518-00453677 to check in with me they are more than
+xputoM3zBU0-01677-00453678-00453977 welcome so they can again call help and
+xputoM3zBU0-01678-00453978-00454205 ask to chicken with me if they have any
+xputoM3zBU0-01679-00454206-00454756 questions and regards to self-care and
+xputoM3zBU0-01680-00454757-00454937 we had to take very good care of
+xputoM3zBU0-01681-00454938-00455051 yourself I actually did a whole other
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+xputoM3zBU0-01683-00455283-00455539 is probably at another webinar but
+xputoM3zBU0-01684-00455541-00455864 yourself here has to be very I think the
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+xputoM3zBU0-01691-00457247-00457472 know and when we witnessing abuse there
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+xputoM3zBU0-01699-00459120-00459338 like that at all so self-care is very
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+xputoM3zBU0-01718-00463632-00463843 yeah for me it's very important to just
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+xputoM3zBU0-01721-00464208-00464627 yeah right so I think all there's lots
+xputoM3zBU0-01722-00464628-00464776 of beautiful comments coming through
+xputoM3zBU0-01723-00464777-00464972 thanking you for your knowledge and
+xputoM3zBU0-01724-00464972-00465139 amazing wisdom and I echo those
+xputoM3zBU0-01725-00465141-00465371 sentiments of this has been incredibly
+xputoM3zBU0-01726-00465372-00465632 informative and I can really am also
+xputoM3zBU0-01727-00465633-00465887 ahead give testament to the fact that my
+xputoM3zBU0-01728-00465888-00466145 first time in court as a support work I
+xputoM3zBU0-01729-00466146-00466349 did get hold of Yvonne and many many
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+xputoM3zBU0-01731-00466578-00466682 very very useful
+xputoM3zBU0-01732-00466683-00466997 to just have the process clear as a
+xputoM3zBU0-01733-00466997-00467255 support worker and to be able to then
+xputoM3zBU0-01734-00467256-00467534 guide the client so do get in touch and
+xputoM3zBU0-01735-00467535-00467818 and you know use this webinar as a
+xputoM3zBU0-01736-00467820-00468029 resource within your services and within
+xputoM3zBU0-01737-00468030-00468364 your crisis teams to to just be able to
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+xputoM3zBU0-01739-00468528-00468713 for the client in different different
+xputoM3zBU0-01740-00468714-00468929 pieces of the work so thank you so much
+xputoM3zBU0-01741-00468930-00469160 it's been an incredible honor for me to
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+xputoM3zBU0-01744-00469533-00469853 work that you do and thank you so much
+xputoM3zBU0-01745-00469854-00470366 is it anybody so we will end with a
+xputoM3zBU0-01746-00470367-00470426 karakia
+xputoM3zBU0-01747-00470427-00470696 and thank you everyone who stayed online
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+xputoM3zBU0-01750-00470997-00471193 must have been interested in the QA
+xputoM3zBU0-01751-00471195-00471392 thank you so much there's so many of you
+xputoM3zBU0-01752-00471393-00471638 this view you that I knew many of you
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+xputoM3zBU0-01754-00471864-00471997 so lovely to be able to share this
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+xputoM3zBU0-01756-00472212-00472430 with a karakia and send you all well
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+xOGgzZieh7o-00056-00013785-00013919 thanks a lot
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+xdp613Y_JwM-00110-00033532-00034132 2004 and cap 2006 topic John wick
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+xdp613Y_JwM-00163-00048703-00049031 2005 week became a freemason joining
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+xf48wVaM_iE-00016-00004164-00004306 Andrews team is working with a
+xf48wVaM_iE-00017-00004307-00004486 technology that will be able to detect
+xf48wVaM_iE-00018-00004487-00004756 hidden nuclear materials inside cargo
+xf48wVaM_iE-00019-00004757-00004931 containers coming across the border
+xf48wVaM_iE-00020-00004932-00005135 this technology is called muon
+xf48wVaM_iE-00021-00005136-00005435 tomography the sun's turbulent surface
+xf48wVaM_iE-00022-00005436-00005576 and other object in space like
+xf48wVaM_iE-00023-00005577-00005779 supernovae are constantly spitting out
+xf48wVaM_iE-00024-00005780-00005918 material which hits the Earth's
+xf48wVaM_iE-00025-00005919-00006113 atmosphere creating particles called
+xf48wVaM_iE-00026-00006114-00006356 muons since we started watching this
+xf48wVaM_iE-00027-00006357-00006550 video thousands of new ones have been
+xf48wVaM_iE-00028-00006551-00006806 passing straight through you in fact new
+xf48wVaM_iE-00029-00006806-00007001 ones pass through most everyday material
+xf48wVaM_iE-00030-00007002-00007178 these muons can pass through a very
+xf48wVaM_iE-00031-00007179-00007463 large amount of very dense material so
+xf48wVaM_iE-00032-00007464-00007667 they can pass kilometers into the earth
+xf48wVaM_iE-00033-00007668-00007934 before they are stopped the muon part
+xf48wVaM_iE-00034-00007934-00008144 explains the type of particles that
+xf48wVaM_iE-00035-00008145-00008327 we're using to actually do this and the
+xf48wVaM_iE-00036-00008328-00008498 tomography is the type of image
+xf48wVaM_iE-00037-00008499-00008642 reconstruction that we're doing this
+xf48wVaM_iE-00038-00008643-00008870 apparatus is called Krypt which stands
+xf48wVaM_iE-00039-00008871-00009074 for cosmic ray inspection and passive
+xf48wVaM_iE-00040-00009075-00009284 tomography it was created through an
+xf48wVaM_iE-00041-00009285-00009439 innovative partnership between many
+xf48wVaM_iE-00042-00009440-00009671 Canadian institutions to demonstrate the
+xf48wVaM_iE-00043-00009672-00009917 muon tomography technology so what we've
+xf48wVaM_iE-00044-00009918-00010163 done is we've built a two-story large
+xf48wVaM_iE-00045-00010164-00010381 detector which actually is able to track
+xf48wVaM_iE-00046-00010382-00010571 these new ones as they enter and exit
+xf48wVaM_iE-00047-00010572-00010789 the detectors when mu1 hits a piece of
+xf48wVaM_iE-00048-00010790-00011024 cargo it will pass right through in a
+xf48wVaM_iE-00049-00011025-00011267 straight line even if there are
+xf48wVaM_iE-00050-00011268-00011459 materials in the way like say a person
+xf48wVaM_iE-00051-00011460-00011666 this new one will still pass through in
+xf48wVaM_iE-00052-00011667-00011839 a straight line
+xf48wVaM_iE-00053-00011840-00012100 if however a dense material like a lead
+xf48wVaM_iE-00054-00012101-00012370 casing is inside the cargo the muon will
+xf48wVaM_iE-00055-00012371-00012565 be deflected the detector will see a
+xf48wVaM_iE-00056-00012566-00012763 change in the direction and energy of
+xf48wVaM_iE-00057-00012764-00013041 the muon and know that something is up
+xf48wVaM_iE-00058-00013041-00013309 new on tomography imaging is very
+xf48wVaM_iE-00059-00013310-00013516 similar to an x-ray image you might see
+xf48wVaM_iE-00060-00013516-00013738 at airport security new ones however
+xf48wVaM_iE-00061-00013738-00013963 only stopped by the densest of materials
+xf48wVaM_iE-00062-00013963-00014136 like for example leg
+xf48wVaM_iE-00063-00014137-00014425 also unlike x-ray images new ones are
+xf48wVaM_iE-00064-00014426-00014608 constantly raining down on us from space
+xf48wVaM_iE-00065-00014609-00014833 which means that no artificial radiation
+xf48wVaM_iE-00066-00014834-00015157 has to be created to get these images so
+xf48wVaM_iE-00067-00015158-00015256 these particles are coming from
+xf48wVaM_iE-00068-00015257-00015499 essentially outer space and passing
+xf48wVaM_iE-00069-00015500-00015634 through all of our detectors right here
+xf48wVaM_iE-00070-00015635-00015862 and we're extracting so much information
+xf48wVaM_iE-00071-00015863-00016102 from them and the only way we can really
+xf48wVaM_iE-00072-00016103-00016243 handle all this information is with what
+xf48wVaM_iE-00073-00016244-00016429 you see here all these little
+xf48wVaM_iE-00074-00016430-00016612 electronics boards which are constantly
+xf48wVaM_iE-00075-00016613-00016819 time stamping filtering coinciding
+xf48wVaM_iE-00076-00016820-00016990 different pieces of information and
+xf48wVaM_iE-00077-00016991-00017170 sending them to the computer over a
+xf48wVaM_iE-00078-00017171-00017386 local Internet this technology will be
+xf48wVaM_iE-00079-00017387-00017596 able to quickly and effectively find any
+xf48wVaM_iE-00080-00017597-00017782 dense containers that might be shielding
+xf48wVaM_iE-00081-00017783-00017944 nuclear materials passing through
+xf48wVaM_iE-00082-00017945-00018169 Canada's borders the facilities at
+xf48wVaM_iE-00083-00018170-00018352 Canadian nuclear laboratories will allow
+xf48wVaM_iE-00084-00018353-00018472 the team to test their imaging
+xf48wVaM_iE-00085-00018473-00018661 techniques using nuclear materials as
+xf48wVaM_iE-00086-00018662-00018937 well as nuclear shielding on-site the
+xf48wVaM_iE-00087-00018938-00019054 goal is to have muon tomography
+xf48wVaM_iE-00088-00019055-00019276 detectors operating at borders across
+xf48wVaM_iE-00089-00019277-00019513 the country benefiting all Canadians and
+xf48wVaM_iE-00090-00019514-00020532 keeping our borders secure
+xf48wVaM_iE-00091-00020533-00020739 you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00000-00000003-00000391 I'm going to talk about VPN so VPN is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00001-00000392-00000941 for virtual private networks and we are
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00002-00000942-00001385 going to to see how we can create VPN
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00003-00001386-00001867 and on a network or provider network and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00004-00001868-00002184 are we can use the same technique in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00005-00002185-00002798 fact to carry private addresses by layer
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00006-00002799-00003229 3 VPN or to interconnect to bridge to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00007-00003230-00003779 network using an IP network are also are
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00008-00003779-00004043 we can use this technique to do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00009-00004044-00004499 transition between ipv4 and ipv6 so that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00010-00004500-00004883 will be the main part and when you will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00011-00004884-00005279 be in red you will have some we will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00012-00005280-00005974 continue some exercise on this VPN ok so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00013-00005975-00006626 what we are are going to see is VPN so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00014-00006627-00007153 what is important to notice is that now
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00015-00007154-00007664 we have separated the core network from
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00016-00007665-00008159 the rest of the world so that's
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00017-00008159-00008431 something that it is very important to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00018-00008432-00008828 notice but when you have your your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00019-00008829-00009512 network you have UPE rooters but up to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00020-00009513-00009809 intake interact with the rest of the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00021-00009810-00010316 world so this one to be aware of the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00022-00010317-00010553 rest of the world but what we want to do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00023-00010554-00011291 is to iterate p reuters from knowing
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00024-00011292-00011501 everything about the rest of the world
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00025-00011502-00011876 so P Reuters in via GPO we want to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00026-00011877-00012287 develop will only be aware of what
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00027-00012288-00012833 happened inside Europe so the goal of a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00028-00012834-00013113 pewter is just to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00029-00013113-00013836 connectivity between edges so there is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00030-00013837-00014066 one very easy way to do it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00031-00014068-00014472 one very intuitive way he is for example
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00032-00014472-00014874 here I we are going to Sisseton in more
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00033-00014875-00015132 detail but just to give you an overview
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00034-00015133-00015696 here I have an ipv6 Network and here I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00035-00015697-00016218 have a core network in ipv4 and I don't
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00036-00016219-00016590 want to change my core network because P
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00037-00016591-00016965 Rooter are very expensive because they
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00038-00016966-00017204 are forwarding packet at a very very
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00039-00017205-00017724 high rate and so if I I don't want to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00040-00017725-00018309 change them here PE is not so difficult
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00041-00018310-00018777 because P can under my ipv6 traffic so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00042-00018778-00019194 we have to talk ipv6 here and here they
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00043-00019195-00019697 can't continue to talk i pv 4 so the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00044-00019698-00019881 main idea is for example area of a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00045-00019882-00020331 prefix alpha 6 which is an ipv6 prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00046-00020332-00020975 so I will run it using ipv6 so here with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00047-00020976-00021853 e bgp so a very simple way to do things
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00048-00021854-00022661 is then I am here opening a connection
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00049-00022662-00023690 using ipv4 I will put TCP and then bgp
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00050-00023691-00024042 so here you see it's an ipv4 I will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00051-00024043-00024528 carry the GPR 9 BGP I will carry the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00052-00024529-00025062 ipv6 prefix alpha 6 so when this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00053-00025063-00025564 we cross pewter we will have no problem
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00054-00025565-00025845 because in real just forwarding ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00055-00025847-00026530 packet so my IGP that run inside doesn't
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00056-00026531-00026770 know anything about the rest of the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00057-00026770-00027100 world just know about route inside my
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00058-00027101-00027427 domain and it's a good thing because
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00059-00027427-00027718 it's IGP i want me to have connectivity
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00060-00027719-00028231 between my pill i may be okay so here i
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00061-00028232-00028821 receive an enhancement in ipv6 my bgp
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00062-00028822-00029164 route ah here is like a proxy and it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00063-00029164-00029518 takes the announcement and change the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00064-00029519-00029925 transport protocol and put it into ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00065-00029926-00030465 the request is arrived here so what we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00066-00030466-00030912 have here this hotel as also to know
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00067-00030913-00031755 ipv6 and this one will have is BGP river
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00068-00031756-00032311 that will know that raisin prefix alpha
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00069-00032312-00033002 six and the next stop is this a breast
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00070-00033003-00033430 so the next stop will be the ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00071-00033431-00034084 address of this Reuter okay it's what we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00072-00034085-00034435 showed yesterday about next up you when
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00073-00034436-00034609 you send an announcement you put your IP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00074-00034610-00034993 address on it here it is not changed by
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00075-00034994-00035452 pewter because pewter just forward the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00076-00035453-00035809 packet so yeah I would have as a next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00077-00035810-00036421 stop the P address of the root of at st.
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00078-00036422-00036760 Gianna's manage my network so whether it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00079-00036761-00037075 mean here it means that now I have this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00080-00037076-00037375 next up and I can do something very easy
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00081-00037376-00037827 when I receive a packet to alpha six
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00082-00037828-00038048 one solution could
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00083-00038049-00038417 B is not the best solution but could be
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00084-00038418-00038562 to create a tanner
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00085-00038563-00039468 so this Turner tunnel will be from PE to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00086-00039469-00040296 next top P so this is an ipv4 either
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00087-00040297-00040433 yeah
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00088-00040434-00041498 I will put my ipv6 packet so here what
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00089-00041499-00042074 happen I don't this route our will not
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00090-00042075-00042389 know about ipv6 because they will just
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00091-00042390-00043130 carry an ipv4 packet to wispy so what I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00092-00043131-00043627 have done I have easily inside network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00093-00043628-00043915 because inside the talk is before with a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00094-00043916-00044293 very limited view because it's only know
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00095-00044294-00044683 the databases only no internal prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00096-00044684-00045070 and you don't have other things all
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00097-00045071-00045465 might be here know about external route
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00098-00045466-00045845 here in the example in ipv6 I will carry
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00099-00045846-00046114 ipv6 it and then I will send it on a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00100-00046115-00046511 tunnel but it can be also if I look at
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00101-00046512-00046743 the same example you can very before on
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00102-00046744-00047312 here I have the three three hundred
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00103-00047313-00047664 fifty thousand and three regarding ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00104-00047665-00048104 so here and I will map them to another P
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00105-00048105-00048412 and then I will say that to send it to a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00106-00048413-00048707 P so it means that here I don't have to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00107-00048708-00049246 inject my 350,000 routes inside my
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00108-00049247-00049637 network so was interesting because I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00109-00049638-00050177 reduce the road of my AGP and it's
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00110-00050178-00050435 easier for me to to manage the risk area
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00111-00050436-00050864 of network so that's one of magic of of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00112-00050865-00051157 BGP jetty I do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00113-00051158-00051513 BGP and interconnection with BGP on a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00114-00051514-00051874 little piece of AGP inside my network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00115-00051875-00052360 but that's all on what but it's not very
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00116-00052361-00052556 efficient because we are using tunnels
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00117-00052557-00053007 but if I was using MPLS it will be much
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00118-00053008-00053457 more efficient and since I use this kind
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00119-00053458-00053766 of - now I can't do a lot of things for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00120-00053767-00054103 example I can do so I we see that we can
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00121-00054104-00054688 do ipv4 here public ipv4 outside on here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00122-00054689-00054910 I have my internal route on just by
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00123-00054911-00055261 using public ipv4 I reduce a number of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00124-00055262-00055600 entreat my pewter but I can also do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00125-00055601-00056038 private ipv4 because if I was using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00126-00056039-00056355 private addresses here I can carry in a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00127-00056357-00056638 tunnel on this way I can carry them
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00128-00056639-00056907 inside my network so I can in fact
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00129-00056908-00057342 connect to network of a company that is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00130-00057344-00057621 using private network private addressing
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00131-00057622-00058075 so I am a provider and I go for example
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00132-00058076-00058371 to see P max P max said I am using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00133-00058372-00058644 private addressing in my network and you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00134-00058645-00059007 say don't worry I can interconnect your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00135-00059008-00059253 different company without any problem
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00136-00059254-00059749 and if you see a bank a bank say I am
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00137-00059750-00060049 using a private network you say ok no
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00138-00060050-00060361 problem I can also carry Rio traffic and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00139-00060362-00060618 I guarantee you that I will totally
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00140-00060619-00060847 relate your traffic using private
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00141-00060848-00061275 addresses from Phoenix even if both
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00142-00061276-00061682 company used the same private prefixes
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00143-00061683-00062062 so that's one good interest because as a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00144-00062063-00062386 provider you can also allow some company
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00145-00062387-00062619 to use your network to your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00146-00062620-00062863 infrastructure to interconnect very
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00147-00062864-00063212 different site so this is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00148-00063213-00063691 is currently do in ipv4 but you can also
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00149-00063692-00063907 use as I show you in the example to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00150-00063908-00064249 carry for example ipv6 on the night
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00151-00064250-00064726 before network or to carry ipv4 on an
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00152-00064727-00065234 ipv6 car so we have over the possibility
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00153-00065235-00065611 so we we are going to to see all obvious
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00154-00065612-00066059 now we have a definition so I will focus
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00155-00066060-00066416 mainly on every VPN so what do we call
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00156-00066417-00066850 l3 VPN its VPN where you are doing
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00157-00066851-00067124 routing it's been that you interconnect
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00158-00067125-00068015 for example
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00159-00068016-00068441 you interconnect the site so you are you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00160-00068442-00068681 you have your provider network here on
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00161-00068682-00068962 your guarantees are to interconnect
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00162-00068963-00069521 companies using private addresses let's
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00163-00069522-00069950 say ten plus eight so you can have this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00164-00069951-00070124 company but choose this addressing plan
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00165-00070125-00070484 and you can interact on exam here you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00166-00070485-00070849 have another company that use the same
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00167-00070850-00071335 addressing plan and you guarantee that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00168-00071336-00071861 you will easily the traffic and a vinter
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00169-00071862-00072151 agreement you will have is a Rooter
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00170-00072152-00072407 so you are routing traffic from this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00171-00072408-00072734 element to be surrendered through their
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00172-00072735-00073028 provider network so this is done at
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00173-00073029-00073121 level three
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00174-00073122-00073618 that's why we call its recipient you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00175-00073619-00074093 have a another group that is called a to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00176-00074094-00074708 VPN and when you do al to VPN you don't
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00177-00074709-00075164 care about what you are doing here we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00178-00075165-00075413 have a bridge you have a bridge here and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00179-00075414-00075847 you can read your traffic between two
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00180-00075848-00076264 site of the companion you interconnect
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00181-00076265-00076559 so here it can be view as a link for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00182-00076560-00076916 example at layer 3 so the advantage of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00183-00076917-00077470 doing layer 2 VPN it's that you don't
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00184-00077471-00077822 make any policies on the traffic and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00185-00077823-00078131 relay 3 so for example if I do well to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00186-00078132-00078851 VPN I can carry easily ipv6 on it if I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00187-00078852-00079175 was doing ipv6 here on the reins free
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00188-00079176-00079508 VPN it means that this equipment we have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00189-00079509-00080000 to understand ipv6 if I do an L 2 VPN do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00190-00080001-00080174 we don't have to understand it because
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00191-00080175-00080450 we just carry if in it frame from one
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00192-00080451-00080837 point to another so what the interests
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00193-00080838-00081098 of this so we have more flexibility but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00194-00081099-00081303 of course you may have more traffic
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00195-00081304-00081696 so what we can do with l2 VPN he is for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00196-00081697-00082131 example to interconnect what we saw in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00197-00082132-00082422 the first day of class he's been that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00198-00082423-00082725 ear you can have your metropolitan area
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00199-00082726-00083091 network so you remember we can create a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00200-00083092-00083559 very huge layer 2 network using provider
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00201-00083560-00084465 by a backward bridge and for example you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00202-00084466-00085469 have a school here so we saw that it was
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00203-00085470-00085812 possible so you put Mac in Mac here and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00204-00085813-00086063 you interconnect to this provider bridge
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00205-00086064-00086346 and then you take the frame and you can
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00206-00086347-00086730 send it for example to another
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00207-00086731-00087084 metropolitan network so here you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00208-00087085-00087540 scalability we have no scalability as we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00209-00087541-00087875 say but we increase the non scalability
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00210-00087876-00088161 factor so it means that we can have a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00211-00088162-00088422 huge network here but still not Corral
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00212-00088423-00088836 well and we use this which is more l2
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00213-00088837-00089255 VPN which is more scalable and then we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00214-00089256-00089518 can interact interconnect on over
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00215-00089519-00089778 metropolitan area network so which way
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00216-00089779-00090003 you can interconnect two cities together
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00217-00090004-00090412 and create a layer 2 network between two
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00218-00090413-00090932 companies and this resource is a share
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00219-00090933-00091086 resource it means that different
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00220-00091087-00091319 companies can do the same thing using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00221-00091320-00091550 here in the middle the same
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00222-00091551-00091838 infrastructure but you guarantee
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00223-00091839-00092180 isolation between this infrastructure
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00224-00092181-00092657 Ravi's traffic so this is something
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00225-00092658-00093153 useful in here to be VPN you ever saw
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00226-00093154-00093786 the possibility to emulate a link so not
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00227-00093787-00094086 see it as a packet on just bridging
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00228-00094087-00094468 packet but you can emulate for example
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00229-00094469-00094617 SDH
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00230-00094618-00095004 linked with the quality of service you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00231-00095005-00095310 have when you are doing you are using SG
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00232-00095311-00095586 SDH network so it can be on an IP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00233-00095587-00096069 network I speed very high speed pipe in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00234-00096070-00096270 it well but this way you can for example
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00235-00096271-00096570 emulator to make a bit per second link
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00236-00096571-00097002 with something a traffic very similar to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00237-00097003-00097386 what you will have with SDH or with a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00238-00097387-00097800 piece of copper so this way you can even
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00239-00097801-00098238 rate even the copper the last kind of a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00240-00098239-00098901 VPN is what we call l1 VPN or jimp gmpls
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00241-00098902-00099438 generalize MPLS and it's something
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00242-00099439-00099900 totally different in that case what you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00243-00099901-00101129 do is you are optical fiber between
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00244-00101130-00101895 optical switches and you remember with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00245-00101896-00102307 MPLS we open what we call on LSP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00246-00102308-00102672 labelled switches path and it was to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00247-00102673-00102908 create her context of switching matrix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00248-00102909-00103133 that say that when I receive something
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00249-00103134-00103392 with a labelled then I will send it on
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00250-00103393-00103755 an available on the goal of all the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00251-00103756-00104118 protocol we saw was to create this path
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00252-00104119-00104442 of level here in fact what we are going
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00253-00104443-00104844 to do is to open a physical circuit
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00254-00104845-00105390 between two points so instead of here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00255-00105391-00105753 with MPLS controlling the switch of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00256-00105754-00105977 labelled so something done and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00257-00105978-00106557 electronic here we can switch lambdas it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00258-00106558-00107139 means that yeah then I have a color that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00259-00107140-00107406 is used to send traffic and I say when I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00260-00107407-00107682 arrive at the switch I go to another
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00261-00107683-00107924 color on that side
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00262-00107925-00108257 and then another cooler and that paper
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00263-00108258-00108549 and then another follicle on that paper
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00264-00108550-00108981 and then I open an optical secret from
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00265-00108982-00109313 one point to another and then I can use
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00266-00109314-00109658 it to send out for example to that five
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00267-00109659-00109790 gigabit per second
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00268-00109791-00110163 some information so of course under
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00269-00110164-00110469 color you will have a very high
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00270-00110470-00110688 bandwidth is not two or three megabit
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00271-00110689-00110977 per second it's more intimate gigabit
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00272-00110978-00111415 but for example you you have a network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00273-00111416-00111798 so you have request some colors and your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00274-00111799-00112050 optical fiber but I use for IP network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00275-00112051-00112338 but maybe you may have some dark color
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00276-00112339-00112610 but I'm not used to carry your IP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00277-00112611-00113001 traffic but for some experiment you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00278-00113002-00113447 allow some people to create their own
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00279-00113448-00113820 link to exchange traffic at very high
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00280-00113821-00114195 speed without any interference with the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00281-00114196-00114573 IP traffic so this way it is possible to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00282-00114574-00114858 use gmpls so you see that it's very
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00283-00114858-00115277 similar in a way to what we are doing in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00284-00115278-00115631 MPLS but instead of switching per frame
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00285-00115632-00116063 we are switching we are here three
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00286-00116064-00116360 switchings across the optical in the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00287-00116361-00116598 optical fiber on this way we can create
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00288-00116599-00117231 a path and then we so I will not detail
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00289-00117232-00117491 these kind of things I will focus more
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00290-00117492-00117957 in the class one at free VPN when you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00291-00117958-00118211 will be in red we will also make some
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00292-00118213-00118548 exercise on l2 VPN yes that's a good
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00293-00118549-00118998 question I think both of them all of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00294-00118999-00119366 them are good for real-time application
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00295-00119367-00119601 it depends then how what kind of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00296-00119602-00119822 contract you have you if your provider
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00297-00119823-00120522 because here so I told you but we have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00298-00120523-00120975 PE here you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00299-00120976-00121333 and it was you poor customer but give
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00300-00121333-00121969 you traffic it can be l2 or l3 VPN and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00301-00121970-00122491 then here what you will do is to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00302-00122492-00122985 establish LSP in the middle of your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00303-00122986-00123585 network to carry your packets so now it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00304-00123586-00123876 will depend on the way you create your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00305-00123877-00124572 LSP if you are using LDP what we show
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00306-00124573-00125053 during the it's what we so during the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00307-00125054-00125947 class so if you are using a DP so it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00308-00125948-00126283 just badge based on your AGP and so you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00309-00126283-00126622 have no guarantees just to do it they
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00310-00126623-00126879 are to announce what we were doing at
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00311-00126880-00127249 layer 3 but if instead you are using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00312-00127250-00128002 energy PT so a zippy T will be a the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00313-00128003-00128511 protocol that I know you to did say I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00314-00128513-00129031 want this LSP to go on this this this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00315-00129032-00129394 this and this Rooter so instead of using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00316-00129395-00129802 a pass selected by the network as a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00317-00129803-00130156 provider are the manager of this network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00318-00130157-00130484 you will force a traffic on a certain
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00319-00130485-00130888 task and you can add redundancies means
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00320-00130889-00131238 that if these paths fails then you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00321-00131239-00131728 planned a backup path to cover a failure
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00322-00131729-00132191 and here you can also reserve resources
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00323-00132192-00132618 so you can save item on that path I have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00324-00132619-00132915 20 megabit per second that are reserved
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00325-00132916-00133138 and I am sure that my customer will be
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00326-00133139-00133740 able to use it so if you create your LSP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00327-00133741-00133968 in that way then
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00328-00133969-00134382 you may adapt to some real time
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00329-00134383-00134691 constraint and if you are doing l to be
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00330-00134692-00135018 l1 VPN then you have all the bandwidth
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00331-00135019-00135512 of kuroh and in fiber to send traffic
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00332-00135513-00135747 but in that case of course it will be a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00333-00135748-00136125 huge bandwidth and for application is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00334-00136126-00136314 not the case so if you have some
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00335-00136315-00136689 constraint then you can do that and when
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00336-00136690-00137142 I talk about a possibility to emulate a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00337-00137143-00137667 wire when you do well to VPN so in that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00338-00137668-00138069 case you will also use a lot of traffic
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00339-00138070-00138315 engineering techniques inside your core
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00340-00138316-00138558 network to guarantee the bandwidth
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00341-00138559-00138968 guarantees a jitter to avoid too much
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00342-00138969-00139338 variation in the delay that is lit it is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00343-00139339-00139667 done with when you are doing packets so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00344-00139668-00140013 when you will be in rain you will have a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00345-00140014-00140349 class on how to use the sv p te with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00346-00140350-00140598 amperes so I don't go into details here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00347-00140599-00141531 so that's the different VPN so here we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00348-00141532-00141825 are going to see I think it's the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00349-00141826-00142071 easiest way to understand it because we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00350-00142072-00142356 have two family of protocol and now we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00351-00142357-00142733 are going to formalize what we have seen
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00352-00142734-00143151 with channel in the first example so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00353-00143152-00143553 here we are you are managing this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00354-00143554-00144039 network so composed of four plain so BGP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00355-00144040-00144486 plain your routing information base but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00356-00144487-00145010 is used by your AGP so SP FRS to a yes
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00357-00145011-00145287 your favor that is used to forward
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00358-00145288-00145769 packets and we introduced also MPLS an
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00359-00145770-00146370 MPLS will create LSP and so label switch
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00360-00146371-00146721 path which derived from things that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00361-00146722-00146910 comes from your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00362-00146911-00147318 fit so I don't go again into the detail
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00363-00147319-00147621 we saw that yesterday or I don't
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00364-00147622-00147851 remember if it was yesterday on Monday
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00365-00147852-00148248 when I show you why with LDP you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00366-00148249-00148581 exchange the Lebel you propose and then
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00367-00148582-00148935 you you have a way in you know from you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00368-00148936-00149078 show the past three where you want send
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00369-00149079-00149265 the traffic on you select appropriate
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00370-00149266-00149641 labelled and you create your limit okay
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00371-00149642-00150297 so yeah well that is the problem you a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00372-00150298-00150671 provider and you have an ipv4 network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00373-00150672-00151115 and so you you are a P because all your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00374-00151116-00151635 customer use ipv4 on one day you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00375-00151636-00151865 one customer all one or two customer in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00376-00151866-00152088 your network but say ok we like to do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00377-00152089-00152654 ipv6 I'm very boring to to do ipv6 for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00378-00152655-00152949 you because it's I will have to change
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00379-00152950-00153404 all my devices so I will say no to this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00380-00153405-00153747 customer because it's not the market is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00381-00153748-00154272 not really mature and the cost will be
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00382-00154273-00154608 very high to change everything so in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00383-00154609-00154816 fact you don't have to change everything
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00384-00154817-00155313 you just have to buy two in this example
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00385-00155314-00155478 two new PE
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00386-00155479-00155853 provider edge Rooter for all these
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00387-00155854-00156195 customers so you can if you have another
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00388-00156196-00156549 PE only ipv4 customer so you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00389-00156550-00156873 nothing to change so here you just have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00390-00156874-00157308 to to buy new PE that will be to our
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00391-00157309-00157790 stack so we will talk i p v6 that way
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00392-00157791-00158298 with ipv6 customer using MP bgp
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00393-00158299-00158603 multi-protocol BGP and they will talk i
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00394-00158604-00159165 pv for inside you network so it what we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00395-00159166-00159801 saw just before so Ruto r1 as prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00396-00159802-00160091 alpha six and six network so we will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00397-00160092-00160197 send
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00398-00160198-00160703 bgp so here you open MP bgp protocol to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00399-00160704-00160968 a nonce here that there is a prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00400-00160969-00161283 which is called alpha six and the next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00401-00161284-00161714 stop is our so in which family of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00402-00161715-00162495 protocol is a one say it's IP now it's a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00403-00162496-00162975 BGP ps4 BGP but this address is is ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00404-00162976-00163463 86 so this is an ipv6 address because
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00405-00163464-00163991 here we just know ipv6 here on the other
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00406-00163992-00164441 path either from a 3 to a 4 we have also
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00407-00164442-00164811 opened a BGP connection multi-protocol
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00408-00164812-00165191 BGP we have an external bgp session here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00409-00165192-00165468 and we will be able when we will learn
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00410-00165469-00166134 ipv6 prefix to inform FR so what do i do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00411-00166135-00166998 next is to send an AI BGP internal BGP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00412-00166999-00167297 packet on my network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00413-00167298-00168057 this internal BGP packet will be on ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00414-00168058-00168609 as I said before because a 2 and a 3 is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00415-00168610-00168950 worth start so they can talk i before
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00416-00168951-00169466 inside the network my AGP made the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00417-00169467-00169734 connection between made possible the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00418-00169735-00170053 connection between our 2 1 or 3 using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00419-00170054-00170579 ipv4 so I send a message here and my
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00420-00170580-00170775 message will be a little bit different
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00421-00170776-00171462 of what we saw before in fact I will put
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00422-00171463-00171798 here alpha 6 which is the prefix our
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00423-00171799-00172200 learned but I will also put a level MPLS
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00424-00172201-00172502 level so that's why I cannot call
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00425-00172503-00172865 remember I told you when we saw BGP but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00426-00172866-00173325 I will call prefix and our I network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00427-00173326-00173447 layer which ability
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00428-00173448-00173783 information it's because here it's not
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00429-00173784-00174232 only a perfect but it's a prefix plus 11
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00430-00174233-00174701 so my na VI is alpha six and a labelled
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00431-00174702-00175223 form pls sixty and then I put the next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00432-00175224-00175879 up and every problem because the law the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00433-00175880-00176540 law is BGP say that the next stop must
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00434-00176541-00177098 be on the same family as the prefix so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00435-00177099-00177443 it's written in a receiver described BGP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00436-00177444-00177653 and PBG parent say but we must have the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00437-00177654-00177979 same famiiy so it's not really a problem
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00438-00177980-00178307 because here I have an ipv4 address so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00439-00178308-00178778 r24 is the ipv4 address of her - but I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00440-00178779-00179144 can transform this into an ipv6 address
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00441-00179145-00179852 I have 32-bit in ipv4 128 in ipv6 so I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00442-00179853-00180545 can move easily from one family to V
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00443-00180546-00180790 over so what do I do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00444-00180791-00181601 I use a special address call not address
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00445-00181602-00181978 when you are : : so everything equal to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00446-00181979-00183296 0 FF FF and then your ipv4 so that's a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00447-00183297-00183788 strange address why do people select
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00448-00183789-00184540 that is because in fact ssss is not rule
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00449-00184541-00185024 one I am doing a checksum so in ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00450-00185025-00185402 ipv6 when you are doing a checksum what
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00451-00185403-00185870 do you do is you take all the world of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00452-00185871-00186354 16-bit and you sum them to get a result
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00453-00186355-00186697 this result is I Evan 16 days
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00454-00186698-00187137 you take the extra bit and you add them
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00455-00187138-00187246 a Sarah
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00456-00187247-00187744 until you get a number on 16-bit so this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00457-00187745-00188062 is called the complementary to one soon
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00458-00188063-00188778 of awareness and what you can see you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00459-00188779-00189078 is that ffff is not word it means that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00460-00189079-00189508 if I add ffff to a result I will have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00461-00189509-00190069 the same result for example let's take
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00462-00190070-00190308 an example very simple example in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00463-00190309-00190890 decimal I offer you one two three four a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00464-00190891-00191245 value one two three four and I want to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00465-00191246-00191625 make system in compliment to ten to nine
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00466-00191626-00192153 so what I will do is 1 plus 2 Plus 3
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00467-00192154-00192787 plus 4 so how much I would have 1 plus 2
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00468-00192788-00193878 3 plus 3 6 plus 10 plus 4 10 so here I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00469-00193879-00194221 want the result in one digit so I do 0
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00470-00194222-00194850 plus 1 and I got one so the result is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00471-00194851-00195900 this one now if I add 9 so 1 plus 9
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00472-00195901-00196708 equal 10 so I had 1 plus 0
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00473-00196709-00197316 you got one so I have a same result ok
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00474-00197317-00197557 so here is the same thing 1 I am adding
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00475-00197558-00197947 FFF is a maximum number I can have in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00476-00197948-00198196 the number of digits that have been
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00477-00198197-00198550 assigned to me and when I do the soon it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00478-00198551-00198803 will be neutral I will get the Samsung
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00479-00198804-00199108 so what is it so why is very interesting
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00480-00199109-00199835 to have this because if I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00481-00199836-00200651 a TCP packet TCP message you know that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00482-00200652-00201119 the TCP message has a checksum unbirth
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00483-00201120-00201356 checksum is based on something at layer
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00484-00201357-00202109 3 which is mainly the IP address at
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00485-00202110-00202970 layer 3 so if F ipv4 address I will have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00486-00202971-00203399 this will have just ipv4 if I have a TV
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00487-00203400-00203762 6 either I will have a packet with these
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00488-00203763-00204286 addresses on I will have the same result
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00489-00204287-00204587 you can tell me that it will be it will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00490-00204588-00205355 been easier just to take ipv4 a lot of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00491-00205356-00205771 zeros it's also checksum not work but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00492-00205773-00206011 the field was already taken by over
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00493-00206012-00206323 mechanism so instead they use this one
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00494-00206325-00206885 so what we call map address and they are
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00495-00206886-00207557 defined for ipv6 to ipv4 transition so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00496-00207558-00208103 here I will not choose this checksum
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00497-00208104-00208387 property but it just or easy way to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00498-00208388-00208826 carry an ipv4 address into an ipv4 ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00499-00208827-00209108 address I understand that this way is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00500-00209109-00209611 happy because I I'll first expand next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00501-00209612-00210029 top are from the same family so it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00502-00210030-00210584 arrived here to a 3 and what do I do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00503-00210585-00210851 with us waves I make a table that say
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00504-00210852-00211286 what I want to reach alpha 6 I will have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00505-00211287-00211567 to send it to the next stop with which
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00506-00211569-00211979 is FV ipv4 address of a to a lie we have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00507-00211980-00212781 to use labelled 60 so now what do I do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00508-00212782-00213087 I receive a packet from therefore on
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00509-00213088-00213585 this packet from air for as the Alpha
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00510-00213586-00214035 six as a destination or address what is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00511-00214036-00214394 in the Alpha six prefix so what do i do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00512-00214396-00214458 first
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00513-00214459-00214878 I know kept my BGP routing table and I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00514-00214879-00215187 say that to reach alpha six I have to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00515-00215188-00215723 send it to this ipv4 address air to ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00516-00215725-00216321 address affair - so I look into my MPLS
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00517-00216321-00216617 table my FAQ for adding equivalence
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00518-00216619-00216992 class that says that to join the prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00519-00216994-00217575 of air - I have to use labelled one two
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00520-00217576-00218221 three so I send a packet ear using MPLS
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00521-00218223-00218517 let's say for example I used a Bell one
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00522-00218517-00219101 two three I arrive on this switch here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00523-00219102-00219369 and it says that here I have to change
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00524-00219369-00219696 two labelled four five six
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00525-00219696-00219915 yes I forget to tell you here what I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00526-00219916-00220362 have done is that I have stuck two
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00527-00220363-00220869 levels first is labelled 1 2 3 which is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00528-00220869-00221391 a level to reach or to for a VIP for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00529-00221392-00221696 address affair - and then I put level 60
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00530-00221696-00222291 labelled 60 was given to me by air - and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00531-00222292-00222834 it was associated to alpha 6 so I send
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00532-00222835-00223008 the packet the packet arrival
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00533-00223009-00223542 - so I switch it to a to an ear I arrive
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00534-00223542-00223892 in the epithelium Rooter and this route
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00535-00223894-00224264 or of course share the same prefix of r2
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00536-00224265-00224556 because these two root L are on the same
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00537-00224557-00224853 link so they will have the same prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00538-00224854-00225264 so here I succeeded because we have is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00539-00225265-00225504 labelled 1 2 3 at the entrance
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00540-00225505-00225891 I arrive to the prefix or 2 so here we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00541-00225892-00226130 have a pop OH
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00542-00226131-00226661 remove the first level okay so we only
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00543-00226662-00226823 labelled what remains it's the second
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00544-00226823-00227521 one is 60 and then air - we receive a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00545-00227523-00227948 packet with labelled 60 so you will know
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00546-00227948-00228144 that you'd receive something for ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00547-00228146-00228629 because it's assigned 60 to an ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00548-00228630-00229106 address so after that he can up or
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00549-00229107-00229628 remove with a very 16-ounce and what you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00550-00229629-00229703 are after
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00551-00229704-00230221 - your ipv6 entity because remember I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00552-00230223-00230450 remember unit with on the oven MPLS a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00553-00230451-00230801 field that give use of the type of the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00554-00230802-00231167 upper layer so here the type is quite
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00555-00231167-00231469 dynamic is just because he was signed to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00556-00231471-00231817 a label there are certain prefix and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00557-00231817-00232301 cigs you say 60 is a tree for this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00558-00232302-00232355 moment
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00559-00232356-00232589 ipv6 so you know that you have to send
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00560-00232590-00232931 it to ipv6 so it's local Convention for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00561-00232932-00233360 a tube and so this way I live here and I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00562-00233361-00233714 sent sent by my forward by packet to a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00563-00233715-00234244 one so what is the moral of this story
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00564-00234244-00234856 is that era I have fathered ipv4 packet
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00565-00234857-00235151 to allow the signaling message to go
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00566-00235152-00235913 from air to 12 3 so here I use ipv4 but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00567-00235914-00236264 I carry ipv6 information and when I am
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00568-00236265-00236851 carrying ipv6 traffic I don't go to a 24
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00569-00236852-00237104 so it means that this route are in the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00570-00237105-00237476 middle of this pewter so ever in one way
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00571-00237477-00237734 I pee for traffic and we are used to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00572-00237735-00238054 carry IP for traffic or in the other way
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00573-00238055-00238392 MPLS traffic and when you are doing IP v
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00574-00238394-00238798 MPLS you don't go to the IP layer you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00575-00238800-00239104 stay under submit that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00576-00239105-00239373 have to change these devices they walk
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00577-00239375-00239692 as usual and they didn't know that they
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00578-00239692-00240127 were carrying something with ipv6 so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00579-00240128-00240361 about something that is very useful and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00580-00240362-00240673 is used in a lot of networks I support
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00581-00240673-00240787 France Telecom
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00582-00240788-00241090 he is currently propelling his migration
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00583-00241091-00241432 from ipv4 to ipv6 and is using this
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00584-00241433-00241746 technique in cyber network to carry ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00585-00241748-00242430 traffic so it's a very good solution and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00586-00242431-00242983 the Chinese are developed another
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00587-00242984-00243175 protocol so there is another good so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00588-00243176-00243511 this solution is called 6pe you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00589-00243512-00243964 understood why it's 6yp v6 and pe4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00590-00243965-00244207 provider edge because you just have to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00591-00244208-00244354 change your provider edge and you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00592-00244355-00244696 nothing to change every year at other
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00593-00244696-00244938 places it works
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00594-00244939-00245284 so it's something that I were you to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00595-00245285-00245704 move easily to 280 v6 and are very good
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00596-00245705-00246331 performances so I like this solution it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00597-00246332-00246505 was for a certain period of time my
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00598-00246506-00246819 favorite exam because the graph is very
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00599-00246821-00247033 very short but you have all the network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00600-00247034-00247396 class in three pages of internet draft
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00601-00247396-00247767 so but that's perfect for a student to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00602-00247767-00248115 have such so many information
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00603-00248116-00248517 concentrated in in few pages but yeah
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00604-00248519-00248811 you see it's more for all the Europe
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00605-00248812-00249154 means that you have already lured big IP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00606-00249155-00249521 for infrastructure and you want to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00607-00249523-00249886 smoothly introduce ipv6 into your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00608-00249887-00250469 network another solution is developed by
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00609-00250471-00250726 walking group at the ITF it's called
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00610-00250727-00251386 software so software is doing the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00611-00251387-00251791 opposite it means that you have ipv4 at
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00612-00251792-00252337 the edge and ipv6 in the car so a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00613-00252338-00252408 foreign important
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00614-00252409-00252894 China we develop the biggest ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00615-00252894-00253266 Network on on earth Vancouver old
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00616-00253267-00253632 channel so China very Chinese people are
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00617-00253633-00253875 very proud about our network because its
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00618-00253876-00254312 widest in the world but are they aware
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00619-00254313-00254541 they are the same problem is that you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00620-00254542-00254862 have they have no traffic so most of the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00621-00254863-00255317 traffic is ipv4 and we are very very few
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00622-00255319-00255855 ipv6 traffic so one idea is to use with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00623-00255856-00256478 ipv6 infrastructure to interconnect ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00624-00256479-00256959 groups or companies so of course I will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00625-00256960-00257346 not go into the same details because
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00626-00257346-00257655 here compared to 6 p.m. what do you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00627-00257656-00258198 to do is just to exchange ipv4 and ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00628-00258198-00258579 make explanation so I have something in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00629-00258580-00258987 ipv6 in the middle between m2 on f3 and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00630-00258988-00259455 Iowa P before between f1 and f2 and f3
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00631-00259456-00259956 and f4 so R 2 and R 3 R P element we are
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00632-00259957-00260286 double stack but in the opposite so here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00633-00260287-00260991 I send a BGP message alpha 4 to my next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00634-00260992-00261588 stop in ipv4 r2 and here what do I do
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00635-00261589-00262073 I send alpha fall under labelled and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00636-00262075-00262434 then I send the next stop and here we'll
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00637-00262435-00262935 put the ipv6 address of a true and the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00638-00262936-00263253 other problem is not technical but I am
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00639-00263254-00263702 breaking the law because I told you that
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00640-00263703-00264183 the prefix on the next stop should have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00641-00264184-00264359 been of the same family
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00642-00264360-00264672 and here the prefix is ipv4 and the next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00643-00264673-00265011 open IP is ipv6 and it's much more
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00644-00265012-00265530 complex to put 128 bit into
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00645-00265531-00265962 little bit doesn't enter that way but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00646-00265963-00266487 well as we put 32 bit in 120 so what can
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00647-00266488-00267093 we do in that situation now in fact it's
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00648-00267094-00267378 a stupid question because in fact what
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00649-00267379-00267815 people did is to change the law and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00650-00267816-00268335 remove very stupid constraint to us the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00651-00268336-00268424 perfect
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00652-00268425-00268701 different perfect family different from
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00653-00268702-00268917 the next up family I quote to the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00654-00268918-00269307 next-door family so here you see but the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00655-00269308-00269805 law but has been returned in RFC 4750 so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00656-00269806-00269979 network layer protocol has assisted with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00657-00269980-00270216 the next up address the next network
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00658-00270217-00270426 address of the next stop is identified
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00659-00270427-00270660 by combinations are physically carried
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00660-00270661-00271029 in attribute and now what we can say is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00661-00271030-00271269 that the de Fleur the declare new
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00662-00271270-00271590 efficacy to a load to a for example and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00663-00271591-00271992 they rely so the prefix in ipv4 our next
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00664-00271993-00272373 hitter in ipv6 so this has been changed
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00665-00272374-00272646 and now you have a new era C but allow
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00666-00272647-00273045 you to do that so it just is not a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00667-00273046-00273288 technical program it was just a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00668-00273289-00273627 standardization program but now if you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00669-00273628-00274040 want you can your new provider you may
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00670-00274041-00274380 say ok I am moving all my network to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00671-00274381-00274472 ipv6
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00672-00274473-00274862 and I will interconnect people in ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00673-00274863-00275154 and if you are a new really new provider
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00674-00275155-00275484 for Nepal in Asia you will be obliged to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00675-00275485-00275844 do that because in a they are very is no
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00676-00275845-00276192 more or next week we know I've no more
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00677-00276193-00276591 available ipv4 addresses so new provider
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00678-00276592-00276834 will not be able to start a business
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00679-00276835-00277173 with ipv4 a we have to start a business
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00680-00277174-00277676 in ipv6 on ipv6 address IP referred rest
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00681-00277677-00278031 become more and more rare and you know
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00682-00278032-00278337 you are in the business school here so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00683-00278338-00278574 you know that everything that is rare is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00684-00278575-00278873 expensive so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00685-00278874-00279212 for example at Microsoft last month
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00686-00279213-00279690 bought some ipv4 address from hotel and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00687-00279691-00280101 I if my memory is good the cost was $11
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00688-00280102-00280527 per address so they need addresses we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00689-00280528-00280785 they find some available resources then
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00690-00280786-00281040 they will put the price to get them to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00691-00281041-00281219 continue to run ipv4
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00692-00281220-00281703 so if you only buy addresses for your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00693-00281704-00282084 customer you want to put these addresses
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00694-00282085-00282528 to your customers you don't want to put
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00695-00282529-00282888 this address into your network so here
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00696-00282889-00283284 to put a PVC ipv4 address here is the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00697-00283285-00283665 waste of money so by doing that you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00698-00283666-00283956 create your infrastructure in ipv6 and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00699-00283957-00284379 ipv4 is just for the customers so it's a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00700-00284380-00284649 way also to supress of course here it
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00701-00284650-00285068 means that your P Reuters our IP v6 only
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00702-00285069-00285423 so now it's the case if you are a new
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00703-00285424-00285705 provider you can buy P Rooter but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00704-00285706-00285993 carrier Caribe of course hardware stack
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00705-00285994-00286371 on you will only activate hi 3 6 but if
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00706-00286372-00286683 you are all network provider you have
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00783-00329621-00330076 finger - then I pick a dress of this
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00805-00340378-00341543 here yes so the prime air for the bodies
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00846-00359617-00360026 you rather you for convenience you will
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00853-00362072-00362367 and so you may have a very bad quality
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00856-00362924-00363383 are the full mesh topology may not be a
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00857-00363384-00363803 good idea because you have more bad news
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00861-00364741-00365037 think in fact in fact may include a lot
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00863-00365392-00365841 another solution which may be easier to
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00867-00366876-00367287 everybody and here you are another
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00868-00367288-00367644 solution which is poor urban spock so
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00872-00372193-00372360 idea is the same is that we have a super
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00875-00372960-00373344 so here it's easier to manage because
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00877-00373954-00374331 only this one point at the development
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00879-00374779-00375762 configured oh it's a way to do layer 3
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00880-00375763-00376230 VPN on the management of this layer 3
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00881-00376231-00376689 VPN is done by the customer itself which
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00882-00376690-00377172 create tunnels now maybe you would like
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00883-00377173-00377454 to have this thing managed by your
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00884-00377455-00377781 provider because it's very boring to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00885-00377782-00377904 create two nursing
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00886-00377905-00378242 he led to some administration on Suki I
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00887-00378243-00378849 delegate that to my product so I just
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00888-00378850-00379086 want to do questions to create create
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00889-00379087-00379560 the to know you can use IP over IP
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00890-00379561-00379944 before you carry ipv4 so you can have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00891-00379945-00380328 ipv6 either but carry ipv4 right before
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00892-00380329-00380721 you before you cannot 41 to say that
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00894-00381268-00381555 way you will see ferb information oh you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00895-00381556-00383079 have some generic so you have lot of way
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00897-00384219-00384696 now what we are going to do is to do the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00898-00384697-00385377 same but here not from company point of
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00899-00385378-00385974 view but directly in GIS and your course
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00900-00385975-00386238 is more fun because we have to play with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00901-00386239-00386547 MPLS and all these things so we don't
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00902-00386548-00387069 have to do with uh stupid to know so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00903-00387070-00387783 here you happy you are very lucky
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00904-00387784-00388208 because you have two competitors with
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00905-00388209-00389171 exactly the same addressing plan but
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00906-00389172-00389526 here is the worst case and it's in focus
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00907-00389527-00389748 because you see you are the same prefix
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00908-00389749-00390134 around here so when you receive a packet
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00909-00390135-00390541 4/10 of 0.1 you have to make
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00910-00390542-00390799 can I take this packet if you just look
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00911-00390800-00391009 at the address we don't know we have to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00912-00391010-00391639 send it so yeah to Twitter adduce new
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00913-00391640-00391927 functionality we either have in the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00914-00391928-00392512 current attempt so wonderful is what we
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00915-00392513-00393082 will call the actual routing table so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00916-00393083-00394320 instead of having only one routing table
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00917-00394321-00394863 routing table say when I want to reach
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00918-00394864-00395704 prefix I use this next up unfortunately
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00919-00395705-00396426 here we have the same prefix okay so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00920-00396427-00396822 this is not enough information so
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00921-00396823-00397348 whatever what I will do in my future is
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00922-00397349-00397999 in fact to create two fields one for
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00924-00398500-00399028 customer 2 and I will say I support
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00928-00400229-00400930 surprise
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00929-00400931-00401834 [Music]
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00930-00401835-00402522 [Music]
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00931-00402523-00402946 so I will create for each of my customer
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00933-00403336-00403738 we'll be able to populate this routing
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00934-00403739-00404008 table using a routing protocol but will
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00935-00404009-00404248 not be able to populate the other
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00936-00404249-00404533 routing table and of course you have
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00937-00404534-00405268 your position so that's good
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00938-00405269-00405706 so not really because we are not using
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00939-00405707-00405988 the same interface I can surprise the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00940-00405989-00406579 traffic from Buffalo but luckily if you
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00941-00406580-00406861 remember when we talked about the land
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00942-00406862-00407122 we understand program it means that in
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00944-00407516-00407737 these four belongs to the green villain
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00945-00407738-00408121 we spot belongs to the red villain and
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00946-00408122-00408319 there was no program you cannot exchange
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00947-00408320-00408730 information between villains here is the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00948-00408731-00409084 same thing we do be at work we separate
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+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00950-00409316-00409540 unpredictable visitor face go to another
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00951-00409541-00409954 customer we put it so we don't have now
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00952-00409955-00410278 a vehicle table for machine but we are
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00953-00410279-00410464 routing we don't have a routing table
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00954-00410464-00410731 for machine we have a routing table for
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00955-00410732-00411301 a set of industries so we have done the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00956-00411302-00411810 tradition but now we have to inform the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00957-00411812-00412293 other rooters about what I have in my
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00958-00412295-00412693 wedding table and here if I look at the
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00959-00412693-00413168 prefix I have no way
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00960-00413168-00413471 to make the distinction between these
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00961-00413472-00413921 two prefixes 10 the 0.1 are the same in
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00962-00413922-00414368 both in both networks so I have to
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00963-00414368-00414835 invent a new way to designate a company
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00964-00414837-00415334 all these prefix so I will add before
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00965-00415335-00416101 the prefix at you element that we would
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00966-00416102-00416624 distinguish and the root is will be
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00967-00416625-00417029 unique so different for the two
+xgCCfgq8nNQ-00968-00417030-00417310 customers and this way
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+xn1zrs6FS0k-00000-00000000-00000340 good morning everyone and welcome to the
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+xn1zrs6FS0k-00002-00000666-00001045 well over there perfect thank you so I'm
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00003-00001046-00001382 going to share this session we saw my
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+xn1zrs6FS0k-00006-00002016-00002324 from the joint research center and we do
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+xn1zrs6FS0k-00040-00010452-00010580 appreciate if you could share your views
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+xn1zrs6FS0k-00533-00137589-00137861 competence digit did come to a point oh
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00534-00137862-00138326 and I would like to finish with this
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00535-00138327-00138566 thought where there is a policy there
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00536-00138567-00138810 must be guidance and support to
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00537-00138811-00138927 stakeholders
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00538-00138928-00139191 okay that facilitates policy
+xn1zrs6FS0k-00539-00139192-00139563 implementation thank you very much