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+y3oUPdsedeg-00000-00000000-00000308 hi guys welcome to another episode of
+y3oUPdsedeg-00001-00000309-00000542 the other girl garden bed alone meet in
+y3oUPdsedeg-00002-00000543-00000707 this video I'm going to be sharing with
+y3oUPdsedeg-00003-00000708-00000881 you something I've learned but they can
+y3oUPdsedeg-00004-00000882-00001049 get rare plants that we should know
+y3oUPdsedeg-00005-00001050-00001345 right from the start for committing the
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+y3oUPdsedeg-00009-00002055-00002291 you must know that there are air plants
+y3oUPdsedeg-00010-00002292-00002873 that you should avoid so keep watching
+y3oUPdsedeg-00011-00002874-00003315 [Music]
+y3oUPdsedeg-00012-00003317-00003481 don't get me wrong
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+y3oUPdsedeg-00014-00003645-00003836 only prefer to be missed it or dump
+y3oUPdsedeg-00015-00003836-00004049 rather than stones were cluttering our
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+y3oUPdsedeg-00017-00004344-00004631 once take note that there are too much
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+y3oUPdsedeg-00024-00006141-00006365 once a week to learn more about Sarah
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+y3oUPdsedeg-00130-00033655-00033957 watching video subscribe if you haven't
+y3oUPdsedeg-00131-00033958-00035026 yet like my face cause of you guys
+y3oUPdsedeg-00132-00035027-00036051 [Music]
+y4W76LASs7E-00000-00000544-00000703 today we have the wonderful joy wrote
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+y4W76LASs7E-00163-00035528-00035783 from here instead of school and stuff i
+y4W76LASs7E-00164-00035784-00035887 was doing
+y4W76LASs7E-00165-00035888-00036046 here
+y4W76LASs7E-00166-00036047-00036246 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00167-00036247-00036518 i need to start expressing in my
+y4W76LASs7E-00168-00036519-00036687 paintings different things where i'm
+y4W76LASs7E-00169-00036688-00036799 feeling
+y4W76LASs7E-00170-00036800-00037023 so that's why i painted this one and
+y4W76LASs7E-00171-00037024-00037335 it's called the
+y4W76LASs7E-00172-00037336-00037639 the keeper of the planet
+y4W76LASs7E-00173-00037640-00037839 and if you look close there's
+y4W76LASs7E-00174-00037840-00038118 it's like a plant but the colors
+y4W76LASs7E-00175-00038119-00038302 i didn't know what i wanted to do with
+y4W76LASs7E-00176-00038303-00038607 this so i wanted a grain to pop that
+y4W76LASs7E-00177-00038608-00038799 lavender out and then
+y4W76LASs7E-00178-00038800-00039062 different things going on inside but
+y4W76LASs7E-00179-00039063-00039159 then i
+y4W76LASs7E-00180-00039160-00039374 thought what can i put in here and i i
+y4W76LASs7E-00181-00039375-00039574 put about
+y4W76LASs7E-00182-00039575-00039855 three little babies laying down
+y4W76LASs7E-00183-00039856-00040039 my wife said why don't you put more why
+y4W76LASs7E-00184-00040040-00040262 don't you put more babies so i put a
+y4W76LASs7E-00185-00040263-00040415 total of 10 in there but you have to
+y4W76LASs7E-00186-00040416-00040662 look at it they're laying on the
+y4W76LASs7E-00187-00040663-00040935 on the pads the pills
+y4W76LASs7E-00188-00040936-00041215 but she's like the one
+y4W76LASs7E-00189-00041216-00041487 that like takes care of him you know
+y4W76LASs7E-00190-00041488-00041630 more or less
+y4W76LASs7E-00191-00041631-00041974 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00192-00041975-00042135 this is when i started getting more or
+y4W76LASs7E-00193-00042136-00042479 less into this type of art from realism
+y4W76LASs7E-00194-00042480-00042671 a realism i do a lot of religious
+y4W76LASs7E-00195-00042672-00042871 paintings of christ and
+y4W76LASs7E-00196-00042872-00043095 the virgin mary and different
+y4W76LASs7E-00197-00043096-00043535 pictures and which i still love doing
+y4W76LASs7E-00198-00043536-00043639 but
+y4W76LASs7E-00199-00043640-00043839 there was things that i wanted to
+y4W76LASs7E-00200-00043840-00044023 express
+y4W76LASs7E-00201-00044024-00044215 through a different way
+y4W76LASs7E-00202-00044216-00044446 of doing my art
+y4W76LASs7E-00203-00044447-00044599 um
+y4W76LASs7E-00204-00044600-00044799 it's like a journey
+y4W76LASs7E-00205-00044800-00045030 when you start it and you're so anxious
+y4W76LASs7E-00206-00045031-00045174 to get back to it and then when you're
+y4W76LASs7E-00207-00045175-00045407 working on it everything's like shut out
+y4W76LASs7E-00208-00045408-00045646 i mean you can hear the music
+y4W76LASs7E-00209-00045647-00045902 but that's all you hear i mean
+y4W76LASs7E-00210-00045903-00046007 you're just
+y4W76LASs7E-00211-00046008-00046207 right there doing your painting and
+y4W76LASs7E-00212-00046208-00046486 you're just working on it
+y4W76LASs7E-00213-00046487-00046655 and it can't be
+y4W76LASs7E-00214-00046656-00046999 bad at some times because you know you
+y4W76LASs7E-00215-00047000-00047262 miss things like late on the dinner or
+y4W76LASs7E-00216-00047263-00047567 something or something comes up or
+y4W76LASs7E-00217-00047568-00047886 it's time to go and we gotta go and
+y4W76LASs7E-00218-00047887-00047974 you know
+y4W76LASs7E-00219-00047975-00048207 that's where you can run any problem but
+y4W76LASs7E-00220-00048208-00048335 it's um
+y4W76LASs7E-00221-00048336-00048502 it's a journey that i take with each
+y4W76LASs7E-00222-00048503-00048671 painting that i do because
+y4W76LASs7E-00223-00048672-00048999 now i think each painting means
+y4W76LASs7E-00224-00049000-00049158 something
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+y4W76LASs7E-00226-00049312-00049502 this one over here was
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+y4W76LASs7E-00228-00049703-00049871 it's just something that i just came up
+y4W76LASs7E-00229-00049872-00050143 with like an abstract of the
+y4W76LASs7E-00230-00050144-00050302 uh
+y4W76LASs7E-00231-00050303-00050495 the eagle the mexican eagle and the
+y4W76LASs7E-00232-00050496-00050823 american eagle and kind of like
+y4W76LASs7E-00233-00050824-00051135 just an abstract of uh
+y4W76LASs7E-00234-00051136-00051399 it's called culture 11.
+y4W76LASs7E-00235-00051400-00051623 that's just what i titled it
+y4W76LASs7E-00236-00051624-00051854 and i i don't really know how to explain
+y4W76LASs7E-00237-00051855-00052038 it it's just something i wanted to paint
+y4W76LASs7E-00238-00052039-00052175 and something
+y4W76LASs7E-00239-00052176-00052294 different
+y4W76LASs7E-00240-00052295-00052615 where it's
+y4W76LASs7E-00241-00052616-00052799 you critique it and you see what you
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+y4W76LASs7E-00243-00053151-00053335 critiquing a picture
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+y4W76LASs7E-00245-00053591-00053854 picture of
+y4W76LASs7E-00246-00053855-00053959 uh
+y4W76LASs7E-00247-00053960-00054182 the gospel according to the four
+y4W76LASs7E-00248-00054183-00054591 apostles john mark luke and
+y4W76LASs7E-00249-00054591-00054735 paul
+y4W76LASs7E-00250-00054736-00054942 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00251-00054944-00055166 these uh women from k-state were looking
+y4W76LASs7E-00252-00055167-00055391 at and they were observing it and
+y4W76LASs7E-00253-00055391-00055679 and what it is is across an oval and on
+y4W76LASs7E-00254-00055679-00055950 the outside i got like
+y4W76LASs7E-00255-00055951-00056247 it's it's pretty it's pretty dark
+y4W76LASs7E-00256-00056248-00056391 where these
+y4W76LASs7E-00257-00056391-00056607 deals are trying to get in inside the
+y4W76LASs7E-00258-00056608-00056879 oval but they they can
+y4W76LASs7E-00259-00056879-00057030 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00260-00057032-00057238 one lady came up she and she was looking
+y4W76LASs7E-00261-00057239-00057430 at it and she was going oh i don't know
+y4W76LASs7E-00262-00057432-00057687 if i like this this picture
+y4W76LASs7E-00263-00057688-00057935 but she stood in front of it for like
+y4W76LASs7E-00264-00057936-00058254 15 or 20 minutes just going like this
+y4W76LASs7E-00265-00058255-00058463 to me i like that more than somebody
+y4W76LASs7E-00266-00058464-00058663 come up saying
+y4W76LASs7E-00267-00058664-00058838 oh man this is
+y4W76LASs7E-00268-00058839-00059023 because she was looking at it and what
+y4W76LASs7E-00269-00059024-00059142 she's doing
+y4W76LASs7E-00270-00059144-00059287 is looking at something that she's
+y4W76LASs7E-00271-00059288-00059503 trying to understand
+y4W76LASs7E-00272-00059504-00059742 she's trying to look at something that
+y4W76LASs7E-00273-00059744-00060030 that by critiquing
+y4W76LASs7E-00274-00060032-00060350 a picture and looking at it it's your
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+y4W76LASs7E-00276-00060472-00060663 imagination what you're coming up with
+y4W76LASs7E-00277-00060664-00060926 what the what we're supposed to provide
+y4W76LASs7E-00278-00060927-00061119 for you
+y4W76LASs7E-00279-00061120-00061247 some artists
+y4W76LASs7E-00280-00061248-00061519 like they'll they'll they'll paint oh
+y4W76LASs7E-00281-00061520-00061663 fantastic
+y4W76LASs7E-00282-00061664-00061903 fantastic stuff i mean my brother
+y4W76LASs7E-00283-00061904-00061999 uh
+y4W76LASs7E-00284-00062000-00062366 they i mean they produce fantastic works
+y4W76LASs7E-00285-00062367-00062519 you know and
+y4W76LASs7E-00286-00062520-00062654 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00287-00062655-00062838 my brother once told me he said you know
+y4W76LASs7E-00288-00062839-00062919 what
+y4W76LASs7E-00289-00062920-00063111 i think that abstract stuff think that's
+y4W76LASs7E-00290-00063112-00063359 your neck because you you
+y4W76LASs7E-00291-00063360-00063671 tell stories in those
+y4W76LASs7E-00292-00063672-00064023 and this one here
+y4W76LASs7E-00293-00064024-00064182 my wife was kind of coaching me on this
+y4W76LASs7E-00294-00064183-00064463 one too because
+y4W76LASs7E-00295-00064464-00064742 this one's called visions for van gogh
+y4W76LASs7E-00296-00064744-00064838 which i
+y4W76LASs7E-00297-00064839-00065094 love vincent van gaal
+y4W76LASs7E-00298-00065095-00065287 and it's a picture of him
+y4W76LASs7E-00299-00065288-00065494 right here in the white painting
+y4W76LASs7E-00300-00065495-00065879 near the shoreline and the trees
+y4W76LASs7E-00301-00065880-00066175 the sunflowers which he loved
+y4W76LASs7E-00302-00066176-00066399 and then a family but it looks like
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+y4W76LASs7E-00304-00066664-00066982 uh they're formed out of the sky
+y4W76LASs7E-00305-00066983-00067243 the dog the
+y4W76LASs7E-00306-00067244-00067582 little man and the wife and the son
+y4W76LASs7E-00307-00067583-00067726 but
+y4W76LASs7E-00308-00067727-00067975 and it was very pleasant to me to do
+y4W76LASs7E-00309-00067976-00068191 something like this because i was
+y4W76LASs7E-00310-00068192-00068487 getting back into realism a little bit
+y4W76LASs7E-00311-00068488-00068735 by doing this but it's still
+y4W76LASs7E-00312-00068736-00068991 surrealism abstract if you want to call
+y4W76LASs7E-00313-00068992-00069255 it so i had to do something to
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+y4W76LASs7E-00315-00069512-00069663 so i put some
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+y4W76LASs7E-00317-00069904-00070103 and the different things that i'm
+y4W76LASs7E-00318-00070104-00070303 doing in there but
+y4W76LASs7E-00319-00070304-00070479 you can get taken away a little bit but
+y4W76LASs7E-00320-00070480-00070567 then
+y4W76LASs7E-00321-00070568-00070831 i i have to come back to what i'm doing
+y4W76LASs7E-00322-00070832-00071094 at this stage of my life so i feel it's
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+y4W76LASs7E-00324-00071216-00071487 for what i'm doing now
+y4W76LASs7E-00325-00071488-00071759 um
+y4W76LASs7E-00326-00071760-00071959 and then some of the paintings that i
+y4W76LASs7E-00327-00071960-00072055 did
+y4W76LASs7E-00328-00072056-00072303 like the farm workers which i did in my
+y4W76LASs7E-00329-00072304-00072391 early
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+y4W76LASs7E-00331-00072551-00072926 i had a lot of
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+y4W76LASs7E-00334-00073432-00073638 the 80s and the 90s
+y4W76LASs7E-00335-00073639-00073855 that the farm workers were a very
+y4W76LASs7E-00336-00073856-00074055 important part of
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+y4W76LASs7E-00338-00074283-00074711 and um i've always been a fan of cesar
+y4W76LASs7E-00339-00074712-00075055 chavez and uh the lord's wife
+y4W76LASs7E-00340-00075056-00075271 i met her at a show once i was doing a
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+y4W76LASs7E-00342-00075504-00075750 and me and my wife were
+y4W76LASs7E-00343-00075751-00075935 getting ready to set some paintings out
+y4W76LASs7E-00344-00075936-00076087 out in front i was setting them on
+y4W76LASs7E-00345-00076088-00076231 either the little lady was standing
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+y4W76LASs7E-00349-00076824-00077006 right there she goes yeah
+y4W76LASs7E-00350-00077007-00077367 [Music]
+y4W76LASs7E-00351-00077368-00077647 and you know it
+y4W76LASs7E-00352-00077648-00078038 just just meeting her
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+y4W76LASs7E-00356-00079024-00079215 because i've always wanted to meet one
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+y4W76LASs7E-00358-00079376-00079599 and i knew i was never going to meet the
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+y4W76LASs7E-00360-00079872-00080071 and me and my wife spent some time with
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+y4W76LASs7E-00362-00080151-00080271 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00363-00080272-00080438 it was really nice
+y4W76LASs7E-00364-00080439-00080559 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00365-00080560-00080767 i talked to her how i felt about my
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+y4W76LASs7E-00374-00082551-00082687 quinceanera
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+y4W76LASs7E-00397-00087272-00087359 so
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+y4W76LASs7E-00399-00087512-00087726 started it
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+y4W76LASs7E-00401-00087968-00088326 the lord swept i met her that kind of
+y4W76LASs7E-00402-00088327-00088615 put it in i mean i put it in i'd still
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+y4W76LASs7E-00404-00088832-00089055 need him for shows or different things
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+y4W76LASs7E-00410-00090063-00090262 people how i felt
+y4W76LASs7E-00411-00090263-00090415 about what they
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+y4W76LASs7E-00414-00090824-00090982 painted this one where they had the mask
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+y4W76LASs7E-00416-00091304-00091406 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00417-00091407-00091582 for pesticides
+y4W76LASs7E-00418-00091583-00091743 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00419-00091744-00091918 that show went over real good but they
+y4W76LASs7E-00420-00091919-00092023 wanted
+y4W76LASs7E-00421-00092024-00092238 to see you know because the pesticides
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+y4W76LASs7E-00424-00092672-00093159 and i painted this one back in 1886
+y4W76LASs7E-00425-00093160-00093335 but um
+y4W76LASs7E-00426-00093336-00093431 um
+y4W76LASs7E-00427-00093432-00093671 most of the paintings i did with them
+y4W76LASs7E-00428-00093672-00093871 now or and people said why don't you do
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+y4W76LASs7E-00440-00096432-00096655 when i'm painting i also write things
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+y4W76LASs7E-00442-00097024-00097231 and
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+y4W76LASs7E-00445-00097656-00097935 i'm getting right now into the
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+y4W76LASs7E-00449-00098568-00098703 and
+y4W76LASs7E-00450-00098704-00098982 different things that i'm coming up with
+y4W76LASs7E-00451-00098983-00099062 but
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+y4W76LASs7E-00530-00118032-00118366 right because man
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+y4W76LASs7E-00573-00128264-00128471 he sold something from his brother
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+y4W76LASs7E-00618-00137696-00137895 you're good at it but it's not going to
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+y4W76LASs7E-00839-00186696-00186783 but
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+y4W76LASs7E-00845-00187984-00188159 i just start using all these bright
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+y4W76LASs7E-01030-00231128-00231423 just stay with with this and i'm at
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+y4W76LASs7E-01038-00233064-00233206 my brother
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+y4W76LASs7E-01042-00233848-00234127 that's his direction my direction is
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+y4W76LASs7E-01045-00234464-00234679 what they take it's just that mines are
+y4W76LASs7E-01046-00234680-00234758 a little
+y4W76LASs7E-01047-00234759-00235175 uh some of us can get a little more
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+y4W76LASs7E-01050-00235656-00235887 too many things you know
+y4W76LASs7E-01051-00235888-00235958 and
+y4W76LASs7E-01052-00235959-00236160 i try to release them
+y4W76LASs7E-01053-00236161-00236303 [Music]
+y4W76LASs7E-01054-00236304-00236606 and that's the way i work but
+y4W76LASs7E-01055-00236607-00236846 um pretty much
+y4W76LASs7E-01056-00236848-00236991 um
+y4W76LASs7E-01057-00236992-00237510 that's the way it is right now that's um
+y4W76LASs7E-01058-00237511-00237679 pretty much what i'm about and my
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+y4W76LASs7E-01060-00237944-00238215 yeah but i'd like to thank all guys for
+y4W76LASs7E-01061-00238216-00238439 coming out tonight and listening
+y4W76LASs7E-01062-00238440-00238551 and uh
+y4W76LASs7E-01063-00238552-00238798 so hopefully it
+y4W76LASs7E-01064-00238800-00238998 sheds a little light on what i'm about
+y4W76LASs7E-01065-00239000-00239279 and my paintings and what i do so
+y4W76LASs7E-01066-00239280-00240119 thanks
+y4W76LASs7E-01067-00240119-00240455 anybody have any questions for joey
+y4W76LASs7E-01068-00240456-00240606 please
+y4W76LASs7E-01069-00240607-00240751 i know i know
+y4W76LASs7E-01070-00240752-00241087 sit down there's a lot going on um
+y4W76LASs7E-01071-00241088-00241246 we've got a little bit of time so maybe
+y4W76LASs7E-01072-00241248-00241391 once we're done sitting if you want to
+y4W76LASs7E-01073-00241392-00241582 go back and joey can talk to you about
+y4W76LASs7E-01074-00241583-00241751 some of the pieces in front of them if
+y4W76LASs7E-01075-00241752-00241903 you like um
+y4W76LASs7E-01076-00241904-00242158 but before you all stand up i would like
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+y4W76LASs7E-01079-00242488-00242639 some of you heard me last week i'll tell
+y4W76LASs7E-01080-00242640-00242798 you again this week
+y4W76LASs7E-01081-00242800-00242919 um
+y4W76LASs7E-01082-00242919-00243223 this coming sunday we have a viva social
+y4W76LASs7E-01083-00243223-00243415 dance studio in kansas city which will
+y4W76LASs7E-01084-00243416-00243694 be music for a sunday afternoon it
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+y4W76LASs7E-01086-00243928-00244127 three o'clock in the auditorium
+y4W76LASs7E-01087-00244128-00244310 live salsa dancing with a little bit of
+y4W76LASs7E-01088-00244311-00244519 instruction at the end we'd love to see
+y4W76LASs7E-01089-00244519-00244694 you bring your dancing shoes and your
+y4W76LASs7E-01090-00244696-00244894 fast speech
+y4W76LASs7E-01091-00244896-00245198 we also have an oral history workshop on
+y4W76LASs7E-01092-00245200-00245519 the 29th which is next wednesday
+y4W76LASs7E-01093-00245519-00245719 donna rae pearson who is our local
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+y4W76LASs7E-01095-00246007-00246151 a half kind of
+y4W76LASs7E-01096-00246152-00246310 shortened workshop
+y4W76LASs7E-01097-00246311-00246567 about how to
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+y4W76LASs7E-01099-00246752-00246927 what kind of questions to ask how to
+y4W76LASs7E-01100-00246928-00247023 kind of
+y4W76LASs7E-01101-00247023-00247206 pull those stories out because what i've
+y4W76LASs7E-01102-00247207-00247358 been hearing since this exhibit has
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+y4W76LASs7E-01104-00247528-00247751 there's so many stories in the community
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+y4W76LASs7E-01106-00248040-00248142 that
+y4W76LASs7E-01107-00248144-00248327 where do you start gathering them how do
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+y4W76LASs7E-01109-00248471-00248663 you start to preserve them
+y4W76LASs7E-01110-00248664-00248958 as we age out and so donna wright will
+y4W76LASs7E-01111-00248959-00249158 kind of start that for you and also
+y4W76LASs7E-01112-00249159-00249303 introduce some of the tools the library
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+y4W76LASs7E-01115-00249807-00250071 uh we have jamie colon which has worked
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+y4W76LASs7E-01118-00250423-00250694 the community so jamie will be here on
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+y4W76LASs7E-01120-00251000-00251142 called glorical
+y4W76LASs7E-01121-00251144-00251367 on october 10th and then it just keeps
+y4W76LASs7E-01122-00251367-00251510 lots of stuff so i'm going to go that
+y4W76LASs7E-01123-00251511-00251679 far because i'll see you guys in two
+y4W76LASs7E-01124-00251680-00251982 weeks hopefully for jamie's talk as well
+y4W76LASs7E-01125-00251983-00252255 that being said thank you so much for
+y4W76LASs7E-01126-00252256-00252415 coming thank you so much being part of
+y4W76LASs7E-01127-00252416-00252551 the exhibit
+y4W76LASs7E-01128-00252552-00252846 look enjoy any questions
+y4W76LASs7E-01129-00252848-00253015 we are all here for you thank you so
+y4W76LASs7E-01130-00253016-00254391 much for coming today
+y4W76LASs7E-01131-00254392-00254487 um
+y4W76LASs7E-01132-00254488-00254751 i loved your talk and i loved your
+y4W76LASs7E-01133-00254752-00254894 your writing
+y4W76LASs7E-01134-00254896-00255167 and um you mentioned your some of your
+y4W76LASs7E-01135-00255167-00255391 inspiration comes from van gogh and
+y4W76LASs7E-01136-00255392-00255527 other artists
+y4W76LASs7E-01137-00255528-00255782 but are you also inspired by other
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+y4W76LASs7E-01139-00255896-00256134 other particular writers
+y4W76LASs7E-01140-00256135-00256239 writers
+y4W76LASs7E-01141-00256240-00256606 yeah um
+y4W76LASs7E-01142-00256607-00256815 robert frost
+y4W76LASs7E-01143-00256816-00256894 um
+y4W76LASs7E-01144-00256896-00257094 john steinbeck because my favorite movie
+y4W76LASs7E-01145-00257096-00257351 is an old man within the sea
+y4W76LASs7E-01146-00257352-00257446 so
+y4W76LASs7E-01147-00257448-00257591 um
+y4W76LASs7E-01148-00257592-00257758 yeah everybody thought i was an oddball
+y4W76LASs7E-01149-00257759-00257919 too because i like stuff like that
+y4W76LASs7E-01150-00257919-00258158 instead of liking you know in the audio
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+y4W76LASs7E-01156-00259128-00259279 that were
+y4W76LASs7E-01157-00259280-00259623 i said they were mean you know they were
+y4W76LASs7E-01158-00259623-00259694 but
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+y4W76LASs7E-01163-00260190-00260319 [Music]
+y4W76LASs7E-01164-00260319-00260471 it helped me
+y4W76LASs7E-01165-00260471-00260791 along the way as tough as they were
+y4W76LASs7E-01166-00260792-00261158 and and they mentioned we read books on
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+y4W76LASs7E-01168-00261464-00261727 uh the christmas carol dickens those
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+y4W76LASs7E-01173-00262624-00262839 thank you and i have one more question
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+y4W76LASs7E-01180-00264012-00264127 [Music]
+y4W76LASs7E-01181-00264128-00264406 i wouldn't be here
+y4W76LASs7E-01182-00264407-00264599 thank you
+y4W76LASs7E-01183-00264600-00264734 i got a question
+y4W76LASs7E-01184-00264735-00265006 mr oakshaw uh so what do you find more
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+y4W76LASs7E-01186-00265183-00265319 uh
+y4W76LASs7E-01187-00265320-00265495 satisfying just as much as your viewing
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+y4W76LASs7E-01189-00265624-00265791 the music yeah what do you find more
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+y4W76LASs7E-01191-00266048-00266382 yeah i did forget to mention that
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+y4W76LASs7E-01195-00267304-00267415 i learned that
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+y4W76LASs7E-01219-00272568-00272782 cool together yeah so
+y4W76LASs7E-01220-00272783-00273127 so i see things like that too so
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+y4W76LASs7E-01224-00273896-00274134 you know and uh
+y4W76LASs7E-01225-00274135-00274415 but just by you know that's why i say
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+y4W76LASs7E-01234-00276256-00276463 but a lot of us don't find that a lot of
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+y4W76LASs7E-01236-00276704-00276903 should have and
+y4W76LASs7E-01237-00276904-00277103 man i was always searching for something
+y4W76LASs7E-01238-00277104-00277327 i mean there's
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+y4W76LASs7E-01240-00277568-00277671 and
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+y4W76LASs7E-01242-00277904-00277991 but
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+y4W76LASs7E-01244-00278111-00278199 no
+y4W76LASs7E-01245-00278200-00278415 the music's real important with the art
+y4W76LASs7E-01246-00278416-00278615 i mean it just goes right together it's
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+y4W76LASs7E-01250-00279616-00279734 joey
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+y4W76LASs7E-01257-00280911-00281087 okay he does
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+y4W76LASs7E-01276-00284880-00285095 yeah well yeah and
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+y4W76LASs7E-01283-00286255-00286591 know so i felt real strong about that so
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+y4W76LASs7E-01319-00293792-00293919 not trying to
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+y4W76LASs7E-01321-00294176-00294334 i'm doing what i'm what what i want to
+y4W76LASs7E-01322-00294335-00294639 do what's what's here yeah yeah so
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+y4W76LASs7E-01335-00297392-00297599 collage those together
+y4W76LASs7E-01336-00297600-00297782 i had two of them like that i have
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+y4W76LASs7E-01338-00297952-00298054 but
+y4W76LASs7E-01339-00298055-00298327 yeah that's uh
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+y4W76LASs7E-01345-00299528-00299839 really inspiring in the writings but i
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+y4W76LASs7E-01350-00301944-00302182 thank you again
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00012-00004011-00004204 my name is Sylvester Cujo and my name is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00013-00004205-00004472 Philip II kannst today we're speaking
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00048-00013387-00013536 Vermont and it seems a lot of good
+y68ylSjDIq8-00049-00013537-00013707 things come out of Vermont so what they
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00053-00014409-00014666 also talk about and of course as Mike
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00055-00014959-00015258 from Vermont yes and so that's at least
+y68ylSjDIq8-00056-00015259-00015497 one reason to go there so you had an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00057-00015498-00015650 announcement you want to mention that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00058-00015651-00015855 you're going to a conference - oh yes
+y68ylSjDIq8-00059-00015856-00016230 I'm going to consensus in New York in
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00061-00016567-00016830 13th so find me if you want to talk to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00062-00016831-00017247 me great I will not be there but have
+y68ylSjDIq8-00063-00017248-00017514 fun so without further delay here's our
+y68ylSjDIq8-00064-00017515-00017880 interview with Mikey jack hi so we're
+y68ylSjDIq8-00065-00017881-00018119 here today with Mike Petey ACK Mike is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00066-00018120-00018414 the Commissioner of the Vermont
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00068-00018675-00018918 the president of the North American
+y68ylSjDIq8-00069-00018919-00019077 securities his administration's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00070-00019078-00019314 Association Mike thanks for joining us
+y68ylSjDIq8-00071-00019315-00019500 today yeah no my pleasure thanks for
+y68ylSjDIq8-00072-00019501-00019671 having me it's a pleasure to be here and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00073-00019672-00019937 happy to participate in the podcast
+y68ylSjDIq8-00074-00019938-00020217 great so tell us about your background
+y68ylSjDIq8-00075-00020218-00020397 so you've been in financial regulation
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00077-00020641-00020928 Vermont DFR sorry well what did you come
+y68ylSjDIq8-00078-00020929-00021111 from and how did you get involved in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00079-00021112-00021399 this position yeah sure so happy to talk
+y68ylSjDIq8-00080-00021400-00021734 about that I grew up in Vermont and you
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00092-00025018-00025224 the thing that first got me interested
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00116-00029949-00030143 behold I sort of all of a sudden became
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00118-00030452-00030733 ways a framework that exists around a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00122-00031518-00031661 you know how do you what is this
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00127-00032685-00032975 that would be prime for localized
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00132-00033840-00034001 commissioner position opened up of our
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00145-00037071-00037252 crowdsource to invest in Ben & Jerry's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00146-00037253-00037436 which is one of our most well known
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00154-00039651-00039812 that was really a success story that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00155-00039813-00039992 started with the ability of neighbors
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00160-00040959-00041129 business so that was really what
+y68ylSjDIq8-00161-00041130-00041355 intrigued me that crowdfunding movement
+y68ylSjDIq8-00162-00041356-00041699 to get involved in regulation then about
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00164-00041805-00042040 Commissioner of our department so we as
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00167-00042515-00042739 also the insurance industry as well and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00168-00042740-00042920 a subset of insurance called captive
+y68ylSjDIq8-00169-00042921-00043171 insurance which Vermont is actually an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00170-00043172-00043430 international leader in we have about
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00172-00043725-00043880 captive insurance company based here in
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00174-00044103-00044287 Industrial 30 companies have a captive
+y68ylSjDIq8-00175-00044288-00044518 based here in Vermont so we have a rich
+y68ylSjDIq8-00176-00044519-00044789 tradition generally in insurance but
+y68ylSjDIq8-00177-00044790-00044987 specifically in captive insurance world
+y68ylSjDIq8-00178-00044988-00045187 and many of those captive insurance
+y68ylSjDIq8-00179-00045188-00045407 companies are experimenting with various
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00181-00045740-00046015 interested more certainly in the space
+y68ylSjDIq8-00182-00046016-00046237 that we're going to talk about today but
+y68ylSjDIq8-00183-00046238-00046505 so did the concept of an ICO I mean the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00186-00046971-00047233 in some ways that you could have a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00189-00047796-00048023 crowdfunding regime that was created you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00190-00048024-00048182 know you could get the same type of bang
+y68ylSjDIq8-00191-00048183-00048437 for your buck by doing an ICO and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00192-00048438-00048605 raising a tremendous amount of money as
+y68ylSjDIq8-00193-00048606-00048799 you certainly know some of these AI SEOs
+y68ylSjDIq8-00194-00048800-00048989 have achieved in an extraordinarily
+y68ylSjDIq8-00195-00048990-00049321 short period of time so in some ways I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00196-00049322-00049489 became interested in the space also as a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00197-00049490-00049845 cap as a capital formation tool and how
+y68ylSjDIq8-00198-00049846-00050204 this might be a new way for for tech
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00200-00050441-00050705 raise considerable money again in a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00201-00050706-00050945 period of time that's much less than a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00203-00051171-00051441 other other means that currently exists
+y68ylSjDIq8-00204-00051442-00051737 well that's super interesting and we
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00206-00052016-00052274 blockchain based projects and fund
+y68ylSjDIq8-00207-00052275-00052555 raising a little bit later you're also
+y68ylSjDIq8-00208-00052557-00052862 the president of NASA which is not what
+y68ylSjDIq8-00209-00052863-00052920 it sounds like
+y68ylSjDIq8-00210-00052921-00053326 [Laughter]
+y68ylSjDIq8-00211-00053327-00053710 nasa widest and so and what it does yeah
+y68ylSjDIq8-00212-00053711-00053880 i be happy too and you know everybody
+y68ylSjDIq8-00213-00053882-00054076 has their own funny story but mine was i
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00215-00054287-00054559 for you know my first week and and we
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00218-00054947-00055300 said well you know so-and-so used to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00221-00055613-00055869 wow like i guess that's impressive that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00222-00055870-00056050 this guy used to work for you know the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00224-00056189-00056454 with financial services at regulation so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00225-00056455-00056721 then I had my introduction to our NASA
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00228-00057299-00057555 membership Association it's made up of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00229-00057557-00057726 all of the jurisdictions in the United
+y68ylSjDIq8-00230-00057727-00058015 States so the 50 states plus is the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00232-00058252-00058576 United States territories Puerto Rico is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00233-00058577-00058779 a member but then we also have members
+y68ylSjDIq8-00234-00058780-00058990 from Canada the provinces and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00235-00058991-00059257 territories in Canada and Mexico as well
+y68ylSjDIq8-00236-00059258-00059613 so all in all there are 67 jurisdiction
+y68ylSjDIq8-00237-00059614-00059928 members that make up the NASA community
+y68ylSjDIq8-00238-00059929-00060213 we are celebrating as an organization
+y68ylSjDIq8-00239-00060214-00060417 our 100th anniversary this year
+y68ylSjDIq8-00240-00060419-00060741 in 2019 so we're founded 100 years ago
+y68ylSjDIq8-00241-00060742-00061141 in Kansas and the reason that NASA was
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00243-00061319-00061561 regulators were founded was that during
+y68ylSjDIq8-00244-00061562-00061750 that time period there was a lot of
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00247-00062261-00062571 Kansas and Iowa and other parts of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00248-00062572-00062967 mid-atlantic and Midwestern states and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00249-00062969-00063253 unfortunately you know people were
+y68ylSjDIq8-00250-00063254-00063492 coming from the east coast and and and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00251-00063494-00063859 providing great investment promises and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00252-00063860-00064051 great expectations of returns to these
+y68ylSjDIq8-00253-00064052-00064179 farmers that really didn't know any
+y68ylSjDIq8-00254-00064180-00064341 better and really they were just
+y68ylSjDIq8-00255-00064342-00064603 fly-by-night fraudsters taking people's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00256-00064604-00064798 hard-earned earned money taking their
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00258-00065077-00065188 a trace
+y68ylSjDIq8-00259-00065189-00065497 so NASA and state securities regulators
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00264-00066632-00066709 body
+y68ylSjDIq8-00265-00066710-00066856 in this case the Department of Financial
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00267-00067169-00067348 should be vetted by some means to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00269-00067571-00067738 that the individual selling the product
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00271-00067892-00068125 investment advisors should similarly
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00276-00069275-00069574 you know handling your life savings
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00278-00069755-00069976 obviously critical a critically
+y68ylSjDIq8-00279-00069977-00070258 important item to many families all
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00290-00072638-00072853 certainly we want people that are honest
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00293-00073373-00073561 good investment advice so at the heart
+y68ylSjDIq8-00294-00073562-00073723 of it that's why state securities
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00298-00074504-00074725 the quintessential cops on the beat if
+y68ylSjDIq8-00299-00074726-00074908 you will within all of these local
+y68ylSjDIq8-00300-00074909-00075232 jurisdictions trying to ensure that the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00301-00075233-00075655 capital markets were clean and safe so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00302-00075656-00075925 that the American economy could succeed
+y68ylSjDIq8-00303-00075926-00076279 so now today I mentioned NASA as a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00304-00076280-00076555 membership Association so the main
+y68ylSjDIq8-00305-00076556-00076813 purpose that NASA serves now is really
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00316-00079259-00079519 investor education group and they all
+y68ylSjDIq8-00317-00079520-00079792 work on policy to try to improve the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00320-00080363-00080530 change in these various financial
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00322-00080759-00081187 these models within NASA as a body and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00323-00081188-00081442 then each individual jurisdiction goes
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00326-00082061-00082318 model rules so that we have uniformity
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00329-00083051-00083248 that we have a uniform sort of playbook
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00332-00083618-00083965 actually quite independent in their
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00334-00084368-00084559 guidance that comes from these working
+y68ylSjDIq8-00335-00084560-00084925 groups to implement policy locally is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00336-00084926-00085132 that yeah that's exactly yeah that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00337-00085133-00085213 exactly right
+y68ylSjDIq8-00338-00085214-00085483 we try to have a lot of internal
+y68ylSjDIq8-00339-00085484-00085732 discussion at NASA among this policy we
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00341-00085961-00086116 there is disagreement it gets ironed out
+y68ylSjDIq8-00342-00086117-00086338 at that level so that people do go back
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00344-00086579-00086752 hear from industry and consumer
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00346-00086942-00087286 we get a full the full understanding of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00347-00087287-00087445 the pros and the cons of various
+y68ylSjDIq8-00348-00087446-00087655 policies but at the end of the day NASA
+y68ylSjDIq8-00349-00087656-00087940 as an association it does have it does
+y68ylSjDIq8-00350-00087941-00088096 have a corporate office it does have
+y68ylSjDIq8-00351-00088097-00088297 staff it does provide a lot of services
+y68ylSjDIq8-00352-00088298-00088546 to our members but our members are the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00355-00088946-00089155 have to decide to take an enforcement
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00357-00089345-00089623 policy or pass a model regulation so at
+y68ylSjDIq8-00358-00089624-00089764 the end of the day each jurisdiction
+y68ylSjDIq8-00359-00089765-00090052 like Vermont maintains its regulatory
+y68ylSjDIq8-00360-00090053-00090298 authority how many people work at NASA
+y68ylSjDIq8-00361-00090299-00090487 so it's an interesting question that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00362-00090488-00090835 NASA corporate office has about 20-25
+y68ylSjDIq8-00363-00090836-00091078 people that work in the corporate office
+y68ylSjDIq8-00364-00091079-00091357 but we're really driven by our
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00367-00092075-00092203 those various categories that I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00368-00092204-00092533 mentioned so all in all you know there's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00369-00092534-00092818 about 4 to 500 state securities
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00375-00094126-00094423 develop the model regulations that I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00376-00094424-00094603 mentioned and expand our message out
+y68ylSjDIq8-00377-00094604-00094885 beyond state securities regulators so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00378-00094886-00095134 that we you know our known quantity
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00384-00096269-00096466 big undertaking and something as simple
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00387-00096905-00097111 project in itself well the folks at
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00394-00098051-00098275 app their new development kit is the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00395-00098276-00098434 IFTTT for blockchains
+y68ylSjDIq8-00396-00098435-00098619 suppose you want to collect data from
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00401-00099520-00099706 this integration in just a few steps in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00402-00099707-00099955 a simple drag-and-drop interface here's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00403-00099956-00100153 another great example perhaps you're an
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00405-00100327-00100666 rely on CSV files sent by email one
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00412-00101944-00102013 than 30 minutes
+y68ylSjDIq8-00413-00102014-00102369 visit AKA OMS slash epicenter and be
+y68ylSjDIq8-00414-00102370-00102567 sure to follow them on twitter at MSFT
+y68ylSjDIq8-00415-00102568-00102755 blockchain
+y68ylSjDIq8-00416-00102756-00102917 we'd like to thank Microsoft and Azure
+y68ylSjDIq8-00417-00102918-00103211 for their support of epicenter so I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00418-00103213-00103631 actually learned about NASA when someone
+y68ylSjDIq8-00419-00103632-00103967 mentioned that that you guys were
+y68ylSjDIq8-00420-00103968-00104298 involved in the takedown of Jordan
+y68ylSjDIq8-00421-00104299-00104523 Belfort you know the infamous wolf of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00422-00104524-00104765 Wall Street can you tell us a little bit
+y68ylSjDIq8-00423-00104766-00105002 so briefly about that and I think this
+y68ylSjDIq8-00424-00105003-00105326 relates to you know the your enforcement
+y68ylSjDIq8-00425-00105327-00105756 power and what what kind of law
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00429-00106677-00106874 the other the the Jordan Belfort the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00430-00106875-00107075 Stratton Oakmont case is a great example
+y68ylSjDIq8-00431-00107076-00107373 of NASA working together in a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00432-00107374-00107753 multi-state enforcement action to bring
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00439-00109099-00109293 an individual or an entity and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00440-00109294-00109490 Stratton Oakmont example is certainly
+y68ylSjDIq8-00441-00109491-00109676 one of those where we were we were able
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00444-00110301-00110568 the 1990s and 2000's beyond Stratton
+y68ylSjDIq8-00445-00110569-00110837 Oakland and the very publicized Walsall
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00447-00110988-00111323 cases related to auction rate securities
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00449-00111603-00111803 settlements totaled in the billions of
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00452-00112251-00112483 were able to achieve and in many ways
+y68ylSjDIq8-00453-00112484-00112881 although we have you know we regulate
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00455-00113127-00113294 certainly when we're acting together
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00457-00113623-00113774 is when we as state regulators are the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00460-00114288-00114519 again at the same time all enforcement
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00480-00118930-00119247 that work within that space basically
+y68ylSjDIq8-00481-00119248-00119522 NASA launched operation crypto sweep
+y68ylSjDIq8-00482-00119523-00119834 about a year ago so between May and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00483-00119835-00120252 August 2018 NASA investigated 200 crypto
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00487-00121075-00121452 somewhat last year can you tell us the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00488-00121453-00121752 story and maybe give us an update yeah
+y68ylSjDIq8-00489-00121753-00121950 no be happy to so you know the operation
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00491-00122149-00122311 sort of NASA multi jurisdictional
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00510-00126622-00126780 this was a classic example of state
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00518-00128497-00128808 the ICO activity I mean you see a report
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00520-00129183-00129495 of the activity had some
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00526-00130468-00130725 with that being the backdrop we thought
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00530-00131485-00131775 clearly bad actors that were promising
+y68ylSjDIq8-00531-00131776-00131970 you know a hundred percent investment
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00533-00132214-00132441 you know they were promising that you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00534-00132442-00132687 would you know get all your money
+y68ylSjDIq8-00535-00132688-00133020 you know guaranteed no risk so these are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00536-00133021-00133233 the classic red flags and fraud that we
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00538-00133435-00133599 whether it's someone coming to your
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00541-00133936-00134250 the the hallmarks of fraud that you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-00542-00134251-00134436 again are timeless in some way
+y68ylSjDIq8-00543-00134437-00134595 regardless of the mechanism that's being
+y68ylSjDIq8-00544-00134596-00134931 used to try to perpetrate it and again
+y68ylSjDIq8-00545-00134932-00135141 that was in the backdrop of the big
+y68ylSjDIq8-00546-00135142-00135608 run-up in the price of Bitcoin through
+y68ylSjDIq8-00547-00135609-00135999 2017 so at the end of 2017 when everyone
+y68ylSjDIq8-00548-00136000-00136203 you know was sort of in this manic phase
+y68ylSjDIq8-00549-00136204-00136431 about Bitcoin and buying and was too
+y68ylSjDIq8-00550-00136432-00136623 late and what other icos are out there
+y68ylSjDIq8-00551-00136624-00136806 that I can buy you know there was a lot
+y68ylSjDIq8-00552-00136807-00136998 of fever around let's get in on the next
+y68ylSjDIq8-00553-00136999-00137058 best thing
+y68ylSjDIq8-00554-00137059-00137355 and there may very well be the next best
+y68ylSjDIq8-00555-00137356-00137544 thing out there and they're very very
+y68ylSjDIq8-00556-00137545-00137802 well may be good investments to be made
+y68ylSjDIq8-00557-00137803-00138021 or good opportunities to be had but
+y68ylSjDIq8-00558-00138022-00138159 they're also unfortunately a lot of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00559-00138160-00138333 criminals a lot of fraudsters and bad
+y68ylSjDIq8-00560-00138334-00138444 actors that we're trying to take
+y68ylSjDIq8-00561-00138445-00138666 advantage of that mania trying to take
+y68ylSjDIq8-00562-00138667-00138939 advantage of that hype and simply trying
+y68ylSjDIq8-00563-00138940-00139086 to steal people's money they weren't
+y68ylSjDIq8-00564-00139087-00139329 trying to do any legitimate projects so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00565-00139330-00139623 in that way we really I think as an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00566-00139624-00139926 organization have played a helpful role
+y68ylSjDIq8-00567-00139927-00140166 in weeding out some of the bad actors
+y68ylSjDIq8-00568-00140167-00140565 and in trying to clarify you know those
+y68ylSjDIq8-00569-00140566-00140784 that are attempting to comply with the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00570-00140785-00140979 securities laws or in fact are compliant
+y68ylSjDIq8-00571-00140980-00141378 the securities laws okay so I think when
+y68ylSjDIq8-00572-00141379-00141837 a lot of people see regulatory bodies or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00573-00141838-00142230 government agencies come out with you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00574-00142231-00142524 know either advisories on crypto
+y68ylSjDIq8-00575-00142525-00142773 projects or in this case
+y68ylSjDIq8-00576-00142774-00143196 actual enforcement I think the sentiment
+y68ylSjDIq8-00577-00143197-00143373 for a lot of people is you know here we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00578-00143374-00143625 go another regulatory body trying to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00579-00143626-00143954 assert power over or our innovation or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00580-00143955-00144120 innovative space where we're just trying
+y68ylSjDIq8-00581-00144121-00144234 to innovate and do all kinds of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00582-00144235-00144429 interesting things but it sounds like
+y68ylSjDIq8-00583-00144430-00144716 that wasn't really the case the case was
+y68ylSjDIq8-00584-00144717-00144954 like okay here's some actual frauds like
+y68ylSjDIq8-00585-00144955-00145203 I mean we in the crypto space I think
+y68ylSjDIq8-00586-00145204-00145410 we're amongst the first to be able to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00587-00145411-00145626 notice these and specifically like
+y68ylSjDIq8-00588-00145627-00145794 having a podcast we were spon barded
+y68ylSjDIq8-00589-00145795-00146076 with requests for people to come on the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00590-00146077-00146220 show and like we see these projects I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00591-00146221-00146376 think this is clearly a fraud like this
+y68ylSjDIq8-00592-00146377-00146619 is a ponzi scheme or BIV feel free to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00593-00146620-00146943 refer those to us if you'd like I've got
+y68ylSjDIq8-00594-00146944-00147069 an inbox full of them I don't know if
+y68ylSjDIq8-00595-00147070-00147183 there are any of them are still around
+y68ylSjDIq8-00596-00147184-00147497 but yes so like we see these things and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00597-00147498-00147831 you know I think in our eyes it's quite
+y68ylSjDIq8-00598-00147832-00147987 obvious which ones are frauds and which
+y68ylSjDIq8-00599-00147988-00148140 ones are the most more reputable
+y68ylSjDIq8-00600-00148141-00148326 projects now whether or not those are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00601-00148327-00148626 those are risk complying with securities
+y68ylSjDIq8-00602-00148627-00148881 regulations isn't that a story but it
+y68ylSjDIq8-00603-00148882-00149070 sounds in this case NASA was actually
+y68ylSjDIq8-00604-00149071-00149229 just doing what it's meant to do is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00605-00149230-00149559 protect investors and go after those
+y68ylSjDIq8-00606-00149560-00149709 that were actually frauds
+y68ylSjDIq8-00607-00149710-00150009 that's exactly right I mean I as a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00608-00150010-00150197 regulator and I think every regulator
+y68ylSjDIq8-00609-00150198-00150468 whether they're at the federal level at
+y68ylSjDIq8-00610-00150469-00150603 the state level and insurance and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00611-00150604-00150833 banking I mean you really have two core
+y68ylSjDIq8-00612-00150834-00151071 balancing principles as part of your
+y68ylSjDIq8-00613-00151072-00151335 mission one is to protect investors or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00614-00151336-00151611 protect consumers and the other is to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00615-00151612-00151944 ensure that the capital markets or that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00616-00151945-00152226 the products that are out there that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00617-00152227-00152579 there is innovation occurring that there
+y68ylSjDIq8-00618-00152580-00152790 is efficiency in those marketplaces that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00619-00152791-00152966 there is an innovation in those
+y68ylSjDIq8-00620-00152967-00153123 marketplaces that those markets are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00621-00153124-00153444 robust and strong because if you really
+y68ylSjDIq8-00622-00153445-00153609 are focusing too much on the investor
+y68ylSjDIq8-00623-00153610-00153822 protection element it's really at the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00624-00153823-00153969 end of the day to the detriment of those
+y68ylSjDIq8-00625-00153970-00154107 investors because they're going to have
+y68ylSjDIq8-00626-00154108-00154254 more expensive products they're going to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00627-00154255-00154383 have less innovation they're gonna have
+y68ylSjDIq8-00628-00154384-00154556 less choice they're going to have less
+y68ylSjDIq8-00629-00154557-00154872 available to them then if you focus too
+y68ylSjDIq8-00630-00154873-00155037 much on the other side of that prong if
+y68ylSjDIq8-00631-00155038-00155204 you focus too much on the innovation and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00632-00155205-00155502 focus too much on on the on the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00633-00155503-00155741 robustness of the marketplace then
+y68ylSjDIq8-00634-00155742-00155949 you're going to see bad actors come in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00635-00155950-00156009 you're going to see
+y68ylSjDIq8-00636-00156010-00156227 fraudulent deals come in and those bad
+y68ylSjDIq8-00637-00156228-00156531 apples are gonna destroy the trust and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00638-00156532-00156819 the legitimacy of that capital market so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00639-00156820-00156984 you really need to have those two
+y68ylSjDIq8-00640-00156985-00157221 elements in mind and you really need to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00641-00157222-00157415 balance them and have a good perspective
+y68ylSjDIq8-00642-00157416-00157766 to allow innovation to occur but at the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00643-00157767-00158007 same time think about what new
+y68ylSjDIq8-00644-00158008-00158256 innovation means to investors and how do
+y68ylSjDIq8-00645-00158257-00158535 they need to be protected I know the you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00646-00158536-00158751 know the SEC has set up a cyber unit
+y68ylSjDIq8-00647-00158752-00159099 within its agency and I think NASA and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00648-00159100-00159399 the SEC have a very similar mindset we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00649-00159400-00159704 see basically three buckets of companies
+y68ylSjDIq8-00650-00159705-00159894 three buckets of icos if you will
+y68ylSjDIq8-00651-00159895-00160127 there's those that are just the outright
+y68ylSjDIq8-00652-00160128-00160350 frauds there are those that are trying
+y68ylSjDIq8-00653-00160351-00160616 to comply with securities laws or maybe
+y68ylSjDIq8-00654-00160617-00160739 they're not even aware that there are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00655-00160740-00160923 such a thing as securities laws but
+y68ylSjDIq8-00656-00160924-00161124 they're white papers are trying to be
+y68ylSjDIq8-00657-00161125-00161325 transparent they're trying to provide a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00658-00161326-00161646 detail about their project they have a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00659-00161647-00161856 legitimate project and then there's a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00660-00161857-00162114 final bucket which you know is doing the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00661-00162115-00162276 belt and suspenders and following all of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00662-00162277-00162426 the regulations and all of the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00663-00162427-00162696 requirements and our focus you know our
+y68ylSjDIq8-00664-00162697-00162921 interest is in going after that first
+y68ylSjDIq8-00665-00162922-00163173 bucket the bad actors in helping that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00666-00163174-00163359 middle bucket understand the securities
+y68ylSjDIq8-00667-00163360-00163626 laws and helping them comply with the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00668-00163627-00163857 regime so that they can offer their
+y68ylSjDIq8-00669-00163858-00164070 product and then just monitoring that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00670-00164071-00164289 last bucket so we really don't have an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00671-00164290-00164453 interest in trying to stifle innovation
+y68ylSjDIq8-00672-00164454-00164694 by going after you know these people in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00673-00164695-00164864 the middle that maybe are forgetting to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00674-00164865-00165168 file a notice filing or forgetting you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00675-00165169-00165363 know in some cases they might even be
+y68ylSjDIq8-00676-00165364-00165600 doing something that is more severe but
+y68ylSjDIq8-00677-00165601-00165890 again unintentionally so it's not an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00678-00165891-00166161 attempt to play gotcha regulation but
+y68ylSjDIq8-00679-00166162-00166434 it's really trying to educate and help
+y68ylSjDIq8-00680-00166435-00166593 them get into compliance I think that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00681-00166594-00166863 an important role that we play how are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00682-00166864-00166998 these projects brought to your attention
+y68ylSjDIq8-00683-00166999-00167378 so do you join as really scammy Telegram
+y68ylSjDIq8-00684-00167379-00167736 groups odd well some I'll tell you some
+y68ylSjDIq8-00685-00167737-00167850 of the obvious ones today I think
+y68ylSjDIq8-00686-00167851-00168120 probably I'm not giving away any state
+y68ylSjDIq8-00687-00168121-00168302 secrets by saying this but you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-00688-00168303-00168564 there certainly you know you can monitor
+y68ylSjDIq8-00689-00168565-00168846 Reddit you can monitor Craigslist you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00690-00168847-00169170 can monitor various you know sites out
+y68ylSjDIq8-00691-00169171-00169422 there that are going to be
+y68ylSjDIq8-00692-00169423-00169587 places where Vermonters and other
+y68ylSjDIq8-00693-00169588-00169818 citizens are going and trying to find
+y68ylSjDIq8-00694-00169819-00170109 more information out about the newest
+y68ylSjDIq8-00695-00170110-00170322 ICO newest cryptocurrency
+y68ylSjDIq8-00696-00170323-00170589 so those are really effective ways of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00697-00170590-00170808 just beating back some of the nonsense
+y68ylSjDIq8-00698-00170809-00171000 that's out there so that's sort
+y68ylSjDIq8-00699-00171001-00171231 certainly a number one at the end of the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00700-00171232-00171591 day we really do get a lot of our cases
+y68ylSjDIq8-00701-00171592-00171873 through complaints so investors that are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00702-00171874-00172074 harmed will be complaining to us
+y68ylSjDIq8-00703-00172075-00172491 unfortunately that's more of a reactive
+y68ylSjDIq8-00704-00172492-00172743 method because at that point that means
+y68ylSjDIq8-00705-00172744-00172872 someone has been out there selling
+y68ylSjDIq8-00706-00172873-00173118 something for quite a period of time the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00707-00173119-00173298 investor has been dragged along for some
+y68ylSjDIq8-00708-00173299-00173436 period of time and then finally they
+y68ylSjDIq8-00709-00173437-00173601 realized that they're probably involved
+y68ylSjDIq8-00710-00173602-00173724 in a fraud or they're not getting their
+y68ylSjDIq8-00711-00173725-00173877 money back and that could be three or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00712-00173878-00174000 four years after they made the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00713-00174001-00174408 investment the price of the ICO busts I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00714-00174409-00174621 mean you know these projects were
+y68ylSjDIq8-00715-00174622-00174861 raising money and you guys went after
+y68ylSjDIq8-00716-00174862-00175181 them I mean this descriptive sweep
+y68ylSjDIq8-00717-00175182-00175542 occurred just around the end of it you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00718-00175543-00175674 must have been monitoring quite a few
+y68ylSjDIq8-00719-00175675-00175842 projects is like actively monitoring the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00720-00175843-00176127 space to figure out which yes projects
+y68ylSjDIq8-00721-00176128-00176322 were fraudulent did you have any like
+y68ylSjDIq8-00722-00176323-00176511 clear criteria that you were looking for
+y68ylSjDIq8-00723-00176512-00176736 here yeah so you're absolutely right and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00724-00176737-00176901 we've so in this space we were trying to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00725-00176902-00177132 be more proactive and monitoring and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00726-00177133-00177447 taking action quickly so really a you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00727-00177448-00177609 know first and foremost we tried to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00728-00177610-00177822 understand if the company was registered
+y68ylSjDIq8-00729-00177823-00177969 anywhere if they had had any
+y68ylSjDIq8-00730-00177970-00178140 conversations with securities regulators
+y68ylSjDIq8-00731-00178141-00178367 that was just sort of a baseline
+y68ylSjDIq8-00732-00178368-00178545 question that wasn't something that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00733-00178546-00178698 decided if we did an enforcement action
+y68ylSjDIq8-00734-00178699-00178950 but then we were looking for again these
+y68ylSjDIq8-00735-00178951-00179256 hallmarks of fraud where their next bit
+y68ylSjDIq8-00736-00179257-00179451 was their promise that this was risk
+y68ylSjDIq8-00737-00179452-00179619 free was their promise that this was a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00738-00179620-00180012 guarantee how far along in developing
+y68ylSjDIq8-00739-00180013-00180186 the project were they was it really just
+y68ylSjDIq8-00740-00180187-00180519 sort of a pie in the sky idea or was it
+y68ylSjDIq8-00741-00180520-00180624 something that could actually be
+y68ylSjDIq8-00742-00180625-00180903 operationalized through the investments
+y68ylSjDIq8-00743-00180904-00181116 that they were seeking again did they
+y68ylSjDIq8-00744-00181117-00181338 promise outsized return so were they
+y68ylSjDIq8-00745-00181339-00181548 saying you can get 50 60 70 percent
+y68ylSjDIq8-00746-00181549-00181818 return on your investment these are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00747-00181819-00182022 things we would be looking for if we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00748-00182023-00182265 were just in the traditional sort of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00749-00182266-00182661 Ponzi scheme you know type of fraud and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00750-00182662-00182804 we saw the same exact things
+y68ylSjDIq8-00751-00182805-00182948 in the ico space people that were
+y68ylSjDIq8-00752-00182949-00183164 over-promising and were unable to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00753-00183165-00183420 deliver and we can detect you know we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00754-00183421-00183628 can pretty easily sort of understand
+y68ylSjDIq8-00755-00183629-00183923 those red flags and then we would go in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00756-00183924-00184143 and subpoena the companies for
+y68ylSjDIq8-00757-00184144-00184415 information and then based on that we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00758-00184416-00184574 would decide you know do we need to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00759-00184575-00184850 bring an enforcement action or not at it
+y68ylSjDIq8-00760-00184851-00184995 you know we mentioned that we had 200
+y68ylSjDIq8-00761-00184996-00185177 investigations you know I know we had
+y68ylSjDIq8-00762-00185178-00185493 investigations here in Vermont and we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00763-00185494-00185687 would you know he'd send a subpoena the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00764-00185688-00185852 company very well might just all of a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00765-00185853-00186120 sudden fold up shop but in other cases
+y68ylSjDIq8-00766-00186121-00186440 we had to go out and bring an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00767-00186441-00186734 enforcement action which we did from a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00768-00186735-00186911 number of different states Texas being
+y68ylSjDIq8-00769-00186912-00187052 one of the big leaders in North Carolina
+y68ylSjDIq8-00770-00187053-00187320 as well against some of the actors out
+y68ylSjDIq8-00771-00187321-00187676 there that either disputed that they
+y68ylSjDIq8-00772-00187677-00187928 were not acting inappropriately or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00773-00187929-00188153 fraudulently or against some of the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00774-00188154-00188396 people that you know we thought were the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00775-00188397-00188597 more egregious situations that we had to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00776-00188598-00188815 take action against
+y68ylSjDIq8-00777-00188816-00189001 and how many enforcement actions has
+y68ylSjDIq8-00778-00189002-00189177 this resulted and how many do I mean
+y68ylSjDIq8-00779-00189178-00189400 basically this was one big sweep but I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00780-00189401-00189607 assume you also had you also do this on
+y68ylSjDIq8-00781-00189608-00189733 an ongoing basis
+y68ylSjDIq8-00782-00189734-00190045 so how much of your time do you actually
+y68ylSjDIq8-00783-00190046-00190435 spend with a crypto scams and can you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00784-00190436-00190732 put some numbers on how many you bring
+y68ylSjDIq8-00785-00190733-00190885 enforcement actions against yeah sure
+y68ylSjDIq8-00786-00190886-00191335 happy to yes people in jail well the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00787-00191336-00191494 jail takes some more time but there are
+y68ylSjDIq8-00788-00191495-00191713 some of our so our membership has
+y68ylSjDIq8-00789-00191714-00191959 various authorities some of them do have
+y68ylSjDIq8-00790-00191960-00192313 criminal jurisdiction and you know they
+y68ylSjDIq8-00791-00192314-00192519 very well could bring criminal charges
+y68ylSjDIq8-00792-00192520-00192844 but because we were proactive in all
+y68ylSjDIq8-00793-00192845-00193065 honesty for example the cases that we
+y68ylSjDIq8-00794-00193066-00193297 brought in Vermont did not yet have any
+y68ylSjDIq8-00795-00193298-00193561 investors in Vermont so by acting
+y68ylSjDIq8-00796-00193562-00193777 proactively we believed we prevented a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00797-00193778-00193981 lot of people from losing their money
+y68ylSjDIq8-00798-00193982-00194356 where if we had sat back you know these
+y68ylSjDIq8-00799-00194357-00194679 more of the scammy type I SEOs would
+y68ylSjDIq8-00800-00194680-00194950 have unfortunately raised some money and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00801-00194951-00195145 then either failed to deliver or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00802-00195146-00195397 outright left with with with the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00803-00195398-00195652 proceeds but to answer your question you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00804-00195653-00195823 know we had about 200 investigations
+y68ylSjDIq8-00805-00195824-00195997 during the first six months of operation
+y68ylSjDIq8-00806-00195998-00196285 crypto Suite 50 enforcement actions that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00807-00196286-00196491 number I think is now almost double and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00808-00196492-00196624 the enforcement actions I think it's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00809-00196625-00196964 closer to a hundred so that's a pretty
+y68ylSjDIq8-00810-00196965-00197232 significant number when you think about
+y68ylSjDIq8-00811-00197233-00197563 the type of you know the type of due
+y68ylSjDIq8-00812-00197564-00197725 diligence diligence that we have to do
+y68ylSjDIq8-00813-00197726-00197923 in bringing an enforcement action and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00814-00197924-00198175 the fact that this operation crypto
+y68ylSjDIq8-00815-00198176-00198528 sweep although you know certainly a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00816-00198529-00198808 point in time effort it continues and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00817-00198809-00199065 that has only been about a year and a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00818-00199066-00199276 half or 18 months where it's really been
+y68ylSjDIq8-00819-00199277-00199462 in earnest in terms of investigating
+y68ylSjDIq8-00820-00199463-00199582 these matters so that's a pretty
+y68ylSjDIq8-00821-00199583-00199759 significant amount of cases to have
+y68ylSjDIq8-00822-00199760-00200157 brought in that period of time
+y68ylSjDIq8-00823-00200158-00200396 so moving on now to the broader topic of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00824-00200397-00200690 regulation in the blockchain in crypto
+y68ylSjDIq8-00825-00200691-00201009 space you know first what do you see as
+y68ylSjDIq8-00826-00201010-00201464 the main innovation that blockchain and
+y68ylSjDIq8-00827-00201465-00201641 more specifically I think we should
+y68ylSjDIq8-00828-00201642-00201773 focus the conversation at least at this
+y68ylSjDIq8-00829-00201774-00202124 part on permissionless networks you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-00830-00202125-00202268 public networks at kathiria
+y68ylSjDIq8-00831-00202269-00202509 bitcoin in others what's the main
+y68ylSjDIq8-00832-00202510-00202664 innovation that you see here with
+y68ylSjDIq8-00833-00202665-00202959 regards to securities law and how do you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00834-00202960-00203240 think it sort of changes the focus or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00835-00203241-00203462 changes how one should look at these
+y68ylSjDIq8-00836-00203463-00203718 regulations in the future yeah I mean I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00837-00203719-00203975 think I think you've hit the key issue
+y68ylSjDIq8-00838-00203976-00204290 as it relates to financial services or
+y68ylSjDIq8-00839-00204291-00204604 global finance or even international
+y68ylSjDIq8-00840-00204605-00204959 business is how do permissionless
+y68ylSjDIq8-00841-00204960-00205063 blockchains
+y68ylSjDIq8-00842-00205064-00205371 enable how do how do you how do
+y68ylSjDIq8-00843-00205371-00205646 companies operationalize concepts on a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00844-00205648-00205805 permissionless blockchain what are the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00845-00205806-00206246 projects that are able to meet problems
+y68ylSjDIq8-00846-00206248-00206417 that these financial service companies
+y68ylSjDIq8-00847-00206419-00206654 or these international firms are facing
+y68ylSjDIq8-00848-00206655-00206966 and to date in all honesty you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-00849-00206967-00207198 there have been hurdles that companies
+y68ylSjDIq8-00850-00207198-00207530 have not quite been able to get over in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00851-00207531-00207723 the financial services space I think
+y68ylSjDIq8-00852-00207723-00207911 there are a lot of discussions and a lot
+y68ylSjDIq8-00853-00207912-00208163 of concerns around the concept of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00854-00208164-00208657 privacy so in a public fully transparent
+y68ylSjDIq8-00855-00208658-00208994 permiss permissionless blockchain how
+y68ylSjDIq8-00856-00208996-00209294 does a bank or an insurance company a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00857-00209294-00209723 securities firm do the transactions make
+y68ylSjDIq8-00858-00209725-00210023 the accounting that it needs to make the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00859-00210023-00210450 and and at the same time protect the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00860-00210451-00210744 identity of a transaction protect the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00861-00210744-00210894 identity potentially of the individuals
+y68ylSjDIq8-00862-00210894-00211106 or any of the other sensitive business
+y68ylSjDIq8-00863-00211107-00211384 information that needs to be protected
+y68ylSjDIq8-00864-00211385-00211614 and in some ways they could even you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00865-00211615-00211784 know it could just be the fact that the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00866-00211785-00211958 transaction is happening and that people
+y68ylSjDIq8-00867-00211959-00212273 could from that determine who the who
+y68ylSjDIq8-00868-00212275-00212573 the various participants are and then
+y68ylSjDIq8-00869-00212575-00212778 take advantage of that some way in the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00870-00212779-00213107 public investment arena so I think that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00871-00213108-00213321 that concept is something that people
+y68ylSjDIq8-00872-00213321-00213498 are still struggling with you sir
+y68ylSjDIq8-00873-00213498-00213717 lisi private blockchains be utilized in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00874-00213717-00213992 financial transactions just today I was
+y68ylSjDIq8-00875-00213994-00214310 reading about a French lender that was
+y68ylSjDIq8-00876-00214311-00214692 issuing bonds the blockchain at first
+y68ylSjDIq8-00877-00214692-00214851 there was some discussion that this was
+y68ylSjDIq8-00878-00214852-00215148 going to be a public blockchain but then
+y68ylSjDIq8-00879-00215148-00215294 they had to clarify that it was really
+y68ylSjDIq8-00880-00215296-00215621 the French lender issuing the bonds to a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00881-00215623-00215880 subsidiary of itself so it was a private
+y68ylSjDIq8-00882-00215881-00216294 blockchain transaction so we continue to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00883-00216294-00216552 try to see examples of it in this in
+y68ylSjDIq8-00884-00216553-00216804 this public space but again there's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00885-00216805-00216921 they're struggling a little bit with
+y68ylSjDIq8-00886-00216921-00217134 those with that first question and a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00887-00217135-00217254 couple of more questions that I'll
+y68ylSjDIq8-00888-00217255-00217584 mention but just a note on that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00889-00217585-00217773 transaction I just mentioned the thing
+y68ylSjDIq8-00890-00217773-00217926 that's that's pretty interesting to me
+y68ylSjDIq8-00891-00217927-00218262 is that the credit rating agency that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00892-00218263-00218621 rated the bonds when they took into
+y68ylSjDIq8-00893-00218623-00218901 account that the blockchain was used
+y68ylSjDIq8-00894-00218902-00219180 they gave that as a credit positive
+y68ylSjDIq8-00895-00219181-00219492 element and basically what that means is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00896-00219492-00219710 they looked favorably on that and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00897-00219711-00219879 reason they look favorably as they said
+y68ylSjDIq8-00898-00219880-00220109 it provided greater transparency to the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00899-00220110-00220359 transaction so you know that cuts a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00900-00220360-00220509 little bit against the privacy element
+y68ylSjDIq8-00901-00220510-00220677 that the credit the credit rating agency
+y68ylSjDIq8-00902-00220678-00220896 saw that as a benefit and then they also
+y68ylSjDIq8-00903-00220896-00221109 said that it was going to cut down on
+y68ylSjDIq8-00904-00221110-00221466 mistakes it was going to cut down on you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00905-00221467-00221637 know human error that it was going to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00906-00221638-00222054 make it more you know more accountable
+y68ylSjDIq8-00907-00222055-00222303 and better from that perspective so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00908-00222304-00222450 that's an interesting development
+y68ylSjDIq8-00909-00222451-00222837 certainly when thinking about you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-00910-00222838-00223077 other players that are operating in the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00911-00223078-00223266 space that businesses need to take
+y68ylSjDIq8-00912-00223267-00223484 account for like regulators credit
+y68ylSjDIq8-00913-00223485-00223800 agencies banks and the like there's also
+y68ylSjDIq8-00914-00223801-00224117 been a lot of discussion in this
+y68ylSjDIq8-00915-00224119-00224331 permissionless block chain space
+y68ylSjDIq8-00916-00224332-00224583 certainly in the insurance community
+y68ylSjDIq8-00917-00224584-00224865 among interoperability so how will
+y68ylSjDIq8-00918-00224866-00225092 various public block chains connect with
+y68ylSjDIq8-00919-00225094-00225216 each other and interact with each other
+y68ylSjDIq8-00920-00225217-00225332 and there's some companies out there
+y68ylSjDIq8-00921-00225333-00225639 that are trying to provide a solution to
+y68ylSjDIq8-00922-00225640-00225879 this and that's some that's one area
+y68ylSjDIq8-00923-00225880-00226092 where I know you've had guests recently
+y68ylSjDIq8-00924-00226092-00226244 on your podcast that have talked about
+y68ylSjDIq8-00925-00226246-00226469 this so that's one area where I'm
+y68ylSjDIq8-00926-00226471-00226653 certainly personally interested and how
+y68ylSjDIq8-00927-00226654-00226890 does that develop I know
+y68ylSjDIq8-00928-00226891-00227004 industry is interested in how that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00929-00227005-00227211 develops because I think that probably
+y68ylSjDIq8-00930-00227212-00227475 solves a lot of the questions that that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00931-00227476-00227640 people have about what does this look
+y68ylSjDIq8-00932-00227641-00227969 like in five years there's one company I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00933-00227971-00228192 know that's trying to make an attempt at
+y68ylSjDIq8-00934-00228192-00228471 this called Korda enterprises and they
+y68ylSjDIq8-00935-00228471-00228648 have made plays in the financial
+y68ylSjDIq8-00936-00228648-00228844 services space and in the insurance base
+y68ylSjDIq8-00937-00228846-00229335 they have one interesting insurance play
+y68ylSjDIq8-00938-00229336-00229656 that Ernst & Young and a company called
+y68ylSjDIq8-00939-00229657-00229989 Gard life are attempting and it's a very
+y68ylSjDIq8-00940-00229990-00230271 discrete type of insurance but it's for
+y68ylSjDIq8-00941-00230271-00230658 marine vessels or for big ships and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00942-00230659-00230792 same point that I'm going to make can
+y68ylSjDIq8-00943-00230794-00231009 apply to any insurance transaction for
+y68ylSjDIq8-00944-00231010-00231282 the most part but they see the process
+y68ylSjDIq8-00945-00231283-00231510 is being inefficient because there is
+y68ylSjDIq8-00946-00231511-00231771 the thing that they are insuring the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00947-00231771-00232005 boat there is the owner of the boat
+y68ylSjDIq8-00948-00232006-00232269 there is an insurance broker that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00949-00232269-00232476 brokering the insurance and then there
+y68ylSjDIq8-00950-00232477-00232605 is an insurance company that's providing
+y68ylSjDIq8-00951-00232606-00232809 the insurance then there is a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00952-00232810-00233037 reinsurance broker that's working with
+y68ylSjDIq8-00953-00233038-00233178 the reinsurance company and then there's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00954-00233179-00233331 the reinsurance company providing the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00955-00233332-00233484 reinsurance maybe there's even another
+y68ylSjDIq8-00956-00233485-00233700 layer on top of that depending on how
+y68ylSjDIq8-00957-00233701-00233940 far they go on the reinsurance side so
+y68ylSjDIq8-00958-00233941-00234126 they view that as being an inefficient
+y68ylSjDIq8-00959-00234127-00234333 streamline and not a streamlined but an
+y68ylSjDIq8-00960-00234334-00234600 inefficient process and also when you
+y68ylSjDIq8-00961-00234601-00234810 have a process like that similar to the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00962-00234811-00235119 Bond example I gave it invites
+y68ylSjDIq8-00963-00235119-00235367 inefficiency and invite invites human
+y68ylSjDIq8-00964-00235369-00235425 error
+y68ylSjDIq8-00965-00235426-00235932 so Ernst & Young has created with Cordia
+y68ylSjDIq8-00966-00235933-00236265 a block pain solution that would allow a
+y68ylSjDIq8-00967-00236266-00236471 new vessel that comes into somebody's
+y68ylSjDIq8-00968-00236473-00236784 possession to be entered into this
+y68ylSjDIq8-00969-00236785-00237042 distributed ledger program and
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+y68ylSjDIq8-00972-00237583-00237767 that contract to have been immediately
+y68ylSjDIq8-00973-00237769-00238044 issued and then for the reinsurance
+y68ylSjDIq8-00974-00238044-00238191 underwriting to occur almost
+y68ylSjDIq8-00975-00238192-00238464 simultaneously and for that for that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00976-00238465-00238779 policy also to be issued so that's one
+y68ylSjDIq8-00977-00238780-00239187 you know example of trying to allow for
+y68ylSjDIq8-00978-00239188-00239361 a permissionless
+y68ylSjDIq8-00979-00239362-00239601 public blockchain to be incorporated
+y68ylSjDIq8-00980-00239602-00240159 into financial services but again that
+y68ylSjDIq8-00981-00240160-00240279 interoperability
+y68ylSjDIq8-00982-00240280-00240542 is it remains a question and then the
+y68ylSjDIq8-00983-00240544-00240671 other thing I hear and I'd be interested
+y68ylSjDIq8-00984-00240673-00240981 in your thoughts on this as well but I
+y68ylSjDIq8-00985-00240982-00241215 was just recently at a insurance panel
+y68ylSjDIq8-00986-00241216-00241448 with the NAIC the National Association
+y68ylSjDIq8-00987-00241450-00241707 of Insurance Commissioners and there was
+y68ylSjDIq8-00988-00241708-00241887 discussion about the scalability of
+y68ylSjDIq8-00989-00241888-00242226 permissionless our public block chains
+y68ylSjDIq8-00990-00242227-00242642 and whether the speed of transactions
+y68ylSjDIq8-00991-00242644-00242814 that need to happen in financial
+y68ylSjDIq8-00992-00242815-00243081 services will be able to be achieved
+y68ylSjDIq8-00993-00243082-00243369 through a permissionless block chain
+y68ylSjDIq8-00994-00243369-00243600 they were talking about how for their
+y68ylSjDIq8-00995-00243601-00243801 current databases and private lists
+y68ylSjDIq8-00996-00243802-00244191 blockchain potentially could complete
+y68ylSjDIq8-00997-00244192-00244455 thousands of transactions in the same
+y68ylSjDIq8-00998-00244456-00244701 amount of time that a public blockchain
+y68ylSjDIq8-00999-00244702-00244959 might only be able to complete a dozen
+y68ylSjDIq8-01000-00244960-00245196 or so of those transactions so I've
+y68ylSjDIq8-01001-00245196-00245352 heard a lot of discussion around the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01002-00245353-00245757 scalability issue how much can how
+y68ylSjDIq8-01003-00245758-00245898 quickly can these transactions be
+y68ylSjDIq8-01004-00245898-00246146 verified and implemented and then the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01005-00246148-00246426 flipside of that too is what is the cost
+y68ylSjDIq8-01006-00246427-00246603 of that both in terms of dollars and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01007-00246604-00247032 energy consumption as well somebody
+y68ylSjDIq8-01008-00247033-00247386 mentioned that I think it's the country
+y68ylSjDIq8-01009-00247387-00247664 of Iceland it spends more money on
+y68ylSjDIq8-01010-00247665-00248007 mining Bitcoin than it does on all
+y68ylSjDIq8-01011-00248008-00248232 energy consumption through their entire
+y68ylSjDIq8-01012-00248233-00248382 households in the entire country which
+y68ylSjDIq8-01013-00248383-00248619 was kind of an interesting fact I don't
+y68ylSjDIq8-01014-00248619-00248850 know if that's been verified or not but
+y68ylSjDIq8-01015-00248851-00249075 I think it does bring a point that you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01016-00249076-00249287 know how do you account for that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01017-00249288-00249486 scalability in terms of the speed and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01018-00249487-00249711 then also in terms of the secondary
+y68ylSjDIq8-01019-00249712-00250131 impact of energy consumption and and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01020-00250132-00250353 cost of that both in terms of financial
+y68ylSjDIq8-01021-00250354-00250602 cost and also in terms of environmental
+y68ylSjDIq8-01022-00250603-00250902 costs you make merry interesting points
+y68ylSjDIq8-01023-00250903-00251133 so I think there's a couple of things
+y68ylSjDIq8-01024-00251134-00251364 here that I'd like to talk about for
+y68ylSjDIq8-01025-00251365-00251382 sure
+y68ylSjDIq8-01026-00251383-00251625 so one being the interoperability the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01027-00251626-00251979 other being scaling and the third being
+y68ylSjDIq8-01028-00251980-00252261 the energy consumption that comes from
+y68ylSjDIq8-01029-00252262-00252465 the proof-of-work mining that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01030-00252466-00252705 currently going on in Bitcoin and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01031-00252706-00252998 etherium and also many other chains the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01032-00253000-00253155 one thing that I want to talk about
+y68ylSjDIq8-01033-00253156-00253410 first is privacy so you talked about
+y68ylSjDIq8-01034-00253411-00253580 privacy in the very beginning
+y68ylSjDIq8-01035-00253581-00253717 I mean well it's completely true that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01036-00253719-00254003 etherium and Bitcoin in terms of privacy
+y68ylSjDIq8-01037-00254004-00254189 are terrible because everything is out
+y68ylSjDIq8-01038-00254190-00254392 there there are now technologies that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01039-00254394-00254633 preserve privacy right so I don't know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01040-00254634-00254855 whether you know about zero knowledge
+y68ylSjDIq8-01041-00254856-00255554 proof things like Z cache where you you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01042-00255555-00255744 can have shielded transactions where
+y68ylSjDIq8-01043-00255746-00256142 it's no longer public knowledge who does
+y68ylSjDIq8-01044-00256142-00256321 what and how do you feel about these
+y68ylSjDIq8-01045-00256323-00256607 yeah III I'm not familiar with those
+y68ylSjDIq8-01046-00256608-00256802 particular companies but I am familiar
+y68ylSjDIq8-01047-00256803-00257096 with some that I think are aligning the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01048-00257096-00257303 same type of concept I think the one I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01049-00257304-00257480 mentioned Corte Enterprises is working
+y68ylSjDIq8-01050-00257481-00258011 on similar items where basically if
+y68ylSjDIq8-01051-00258012-00258338 you're doing a deal two parties are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01052-00258339-00258602 doing a deal that a competitor third
+y68ylSjDIq8-01053-00258603-00258869 party wouldn't have the information
+y68ylSjDIq8-01054-00258869-00259256 about your deal stored on their network
+y68ylSjDIq8-01055-00259257-00259442 if they were operating in a distributed
+y68ylSjDIq8-01056-00259442-00259751 distributed ledger network so that they
+y68ylSjDIq8-01057-00259752-00259996 are protecting the information in that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01058-00259998-00260132 way and I think that's a good
+y68ylSjDIq8-01059-00260133-00260510 advancement because although again it's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01060-00260511-00260678 not that it's not that the business
+y68ylSjDIq8-01061-00260679-00260837 world or financial service world doesn't
+y68ylSjDIq8-01062-00260838-00261089 want to be transparent but that there is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01063-00261090-00261319 certainly information sensitive
+y68ylSjDIq8-01064-00261321-00261607 information business information that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01065-00261608-00261829 individuals want to keep private
+y68ylSjDIq8-01066-00261830-00262115 certainly you see this with SEC filings
+y68ylSjDIq8-01067-00262116-00262367 I mean people need to make confidential
+y68ylSjDIq8-01068-00262368-00262517 filings with the SEC all the time
+y68ylSjDIq8-01069-00262518-00262790 because they don't want that information
+y68ylSjDIq8-01070-00262791-00263084 to become public before it needs to be
+y68ylSjDIq8-01071-00263085-00263336 public or at the appropriate time and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01072-00263337-00263576 they don't want people to you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01073-00263577-00263765 manipulate the stock market because if
+y68ylSjDIq8-01074-00263766-00263996 they've gotten non-public information so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01075-00263997-00264155 certainly those are I think are good
+y68ylSjDIq8-01076-00264156-00264452 advancements on a global perspective and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01077-00264453-00264824 able to protect the sensitivity of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01078-00264825-00265151 transactions in the sensitivity of this
+y68ylSjDIq8-01079-00265152-00265358 information and then the next question
+y68ylSjDIq8-01080-00265359-00265490 of course in the privacy piece is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01081-00265491-00265748 personal privacy and personal
+y68ylSjDIq8-01082-00265749-00266153 information and you know certainly you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01083-00266154-00266369 know on the one hand in all honesty you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01084-00266370-00266660 know the current ways that corporate
+y68ylSjDIq8-01085-00266661-00266852 entities and and financial services
+y68ylSjDIq8-01086-00266853-00267002 firms are protecting
+y68ylSjDIq8-01087-00267003-00267236 folks identity is is lacking I mean
+y68ylSjDIq8-01088-00267237-00267335 there have been a number of cyber
+y68ylSjDIq8-01089-00267336-00267587 security breaches that have been quite
+y68ylSjDIq8-01090-00267588-00267833 well-known throughout the last three or
+y68ylSjDIq8-01091-00267834-00268058 four or five years a company certainly
+y68ylSjDIq8-01092-00268059-00268223 are doing everything they can do I think
+y68ylSjDIq8-01093-00268224-00268451 most of them at least a good good actors
+y68ylSjDIq8-01094-00268452-00268700 in protecting a privacy and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01095-00268701-00268862 confidentiality of individuals
+y68ylSjDIq8-01096-00268863-00269156 information but you can in the current
+y68ylSjDIq8-01097-00269157-00269486 structure you can't prevent it you're
+y68ylSjDIq8-01098-00269487-00269777 just trying to mitigate it minimize it
+y68ylSjDIq8-01099-00269778-00269933 and then respond to it when it happens
+y68ylSjDIq8-01100-00269934-00270209 so you know if a distributed ledger
+y68ylSjDIq8-01101-00270210-00270607 technology does have some hope in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01102-00270608-00270860 securing our networks to even greater
+y68ylSjDIq8-01103-00270861-00271136 degree that equally would be a good
+y68ylSjDIq8-01104-00271137-00271358 development but I just I personally
+y68ylSjDIq8-01105-00271359-00271616 continue to wait and see what will come
+y68ylSjDIq8-01106-00271617-00271781 about that on both of those points in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01107-00271782-00272080 terms of individual privacy and on the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01109-00272463-00272816 transient transactions generally I would
+y68ylSjDIq8-01110-00272817-00273023 like to come back to a point you made in
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01112-00273326-00273578 because I also think that is a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01113-00273579-00273758 tremendous benefit to blockchain
+y68ylSjDIq8-01114-00273759-00274013 technology and you said that you became
+y68ylSjDIq8-01115-00274014-00274226 interested in crowdfunding in turn in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01116-00274227-00274538 the times of IndieGoGo and GoFundMe and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01117-00274539-00274871 Kickstarter and I would like to add and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01118-00274872-00275267 maybe discuss that why in in traditional
+y68ylSjDIq8-01119-00275268-00275531 crowd funding campaigns you actually
+y68ylSjDIq8-01120-00275532-00275684 fund a product right so basically you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01121-00275685-00276059 buy say a supercar oakwood I don't know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01122-00276060-00276323 could you or something that you were
+y68ylSjDIq8-01123-00276324-00276695 that you really want because it has 20
+y68ylSjDIq8-01124-00276696-00276896 functionalities so I think the one that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01125-00276897-00277046 was like the best was that one that was
+y68ylSjDIq8-01126-00277047-00277214 the cooler that was maybe also a radio
+y68ylSjDIq8-01127-00277215-00277720 or something like that and you pays a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01129-00278124-00278402 to build them they will ship you one
+y68ylSjDIq8-01130-00278403-00278609 first for these seventy dollars but they
+y68ylSjDIq8-01131-00278610-00278807 they only sell you the product they
+y68ylSjDIq8-01132-00278808-00279023 don't sell you a share in the company so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01133-00279024-00279227 basically if this company M becomes
+y68ylSjDIq8-01134-00279228-00279530 fantastically successful you you as
+y68ylSjDIq8-01135-00279531-00279713 someone who actually funded the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01136-00279714-00279953 development do not benefit from that and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01137-00279954-00280142 I think we have seen this time and time
+y68ylSjDIq8-01138-00280143-00280325 again for instance in the oculus rift
+y68ylSjDIq8-01139-00280326-00280394 case I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01140-00280395-00280529 don't know whether you were you're
+y68ylSjDIq8-01141-00280530-00280843 familiar with this only people people
+y68ylSjDIq8-01142-00280844-00281308 crowdfunded this VR headset and it got a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01143-00281309-00281678 fairly lacking prototype the company was
+y68ylSjDIq8-01144-00281679-00281897 sold for several billion dollars to I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01145-00281898-00282221 think Facebook the the founder cashed
+y68ylSjDIq8-01146-00282222-00282506 out and support for the things that had
+y68ylSjDIq8-01147-00282507-00282794 already been delivered was was phased
+y68ylSjDIq8-01148-00282795-00283033 out so the people who actually who
+y68ylSjDIq8-01149-00283034-00283229 actually kick-started this in the best
+y68ylSjDIq8-01150-00283230-00283553 sense they they didn't actually have any
+y68ylSjDIq8-01151-00283554-00283919 part in the success that this this
+y68ylSjDIq8-01152-00283920-00284131 company had in the end and with them
+y68ylSjDIq8-01153-00284132-00284564 with ICO is in the best case this you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01154-00284565-00284972 become a stakeholder in that company and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01155-00284973-00285317 you you benefit from the future
+y68ylSjDIq8-01156-00285318-00285559 successes yeah no I think that's right I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01157-00285560-00285749 mean that's what that's why I see this
+y68ylSjDIq8-01158-00285750-00286001 connection between crowdfunding in the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01159-00286002-00286400 ICO space and how it can be you know in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01160-00286401-00286592 many ways you know there's been some
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01163-00286944-00287129 but I don't think it's been as great as
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01165-00287459-00287729 space may have anticipated and it's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01166-00287730-00287867 interesting because at that same time
+y68ylSjDIq8-01167-00287868-00288116 when federal crowdfunding finally had
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01169-00288291-00288521 this concept of the initial coin
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01171-00288690-00288944 came in at the same time and all of a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01175-00289647-00289922 that again was in some ways more
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01179-00290636-00290912 were able to do it more quickly and and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01180-00290913-00291071 more efficiently in terms of the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01181-00291072-00291355 mechanism of raising the money so it is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01182-00291356-00291638 quite a fascinating interesting concept
+y68ylSjDIq8-01183-00291639-00291941 and I do agree with you you know in
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01186-00292338-00292487 about it quite frequently because I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01187-00292488-00292697 think if I remember right the headsets
+y68ylSjDIq8-01188-00292698-00292937 were three or four hundred dollars
+y68ylSjDIq8-01189-00292938-00293180 something in that range and if that
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01191-00293319-00293540 instead been an equity investment you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01192-00293541-00293783 know they would have gotten you know 67
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01194-00294096-00294386 so that would be you know quite
+y68ylSjDIq8-01195-00294387-00294674 substantial and instead like I say you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01196-00294675-00294821 know many people were waiting by the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01197-00294822-00295061 mailbox for their check to come in not
+y68ylSjDIq8-01198-00295062-00295208 appreciating that they had bought the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01199-00295209-00295408 product and not invested in the company
+y68ylSjDIq8-01200-00295409-00295739 so I do think there is great value in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01201-00295740-00296147 giving people normal people and people
+y68ylSjDIq8-01202-00296148-00296309 like us I mean people that are not
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01204-00296439-00296600 investment banks that are not pension
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01207-00297084-00297317 that get the private deals that are
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01209-00297495-00297796 in on the IPOs that are going on within
+y68ylSjDIq8-01210-00297797-00298022 you know the New York Stock Exchange and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01211-00298023-00298303 others but to give every day you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01212-00298304-00298700 investing public an opportunity to get
+y68ylSjDIq8-01213-00298701-00298979 in on some of these opportunities at the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01214-00298980-00299195 very earliest stages that is I think a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01216-00299538-00299948 then also to icos so I mentioned earlier
+y68ylSjDIq8-01217-00299949-00300176 that balance between you know invest you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01218-00300177-00300344 know between facilitating capital and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01219-00300345-00300548 facilitating investment and then also
+y68ylSjDIq8-01220-00300549-00300836 investor protection and the rub is that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01221-00300837-00301018 although these are exciting
+y68ylSjDIq8-01222-00301019-00301331 opportunities for the businesses and for
+y68ylSjDIq8-01223-00301332-00301469 the investors that get in with the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01224-00301470-00301592 business at the ground floor
+y68ylSjDIq8-01225-00301593-00301793 putting aside the fraud putting aside
+y68ylSjDIq8-01226-00301794-00302129 any of bad actors you know startup
+y68ylSjDIq8-01227-00302130-00302312 companies you know for every oculus rift
+y68ylSjDIq8-01228-00302313-00302684 there is probably 10 to 20 companies
+y68ylSjDIq8-01229-00302685-00302879 that have you know fallen on their face
+y68ylSjDIq8-01230-00302880-00303311 and the investment went nowhere so you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01231-00303312-00303581 know it's up to us a little bit to teach
+y68ylSjDIq8-01232-00303582-00303824 the traditional concepts of financial
+y68ylSjDIq8-01233-00303825-00304100 literacy to understand that you need to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01235-00304299-00304472 you need to not put more money than you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01236-00304473-00304645 can put in that business
+y68ylSjDIq8-01237-00304646-00304874 assuming that you lose everything in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01238-00304875-00305036 terms of your investment you don't put
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01241-00305604-00305894 certainly you know in terms of advances
+y68ylSjDIq8-01242-00305895-00306137 and what you're talking about when you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01243-00306138-00306281 get to a place where you are starting to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01248-00307155-00307409 you're trying to get licensed regulated
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01250-00307638-00307931 get to that next level that also will
+y68ylSjDIq8-01251-00307932-00308195 you know be a positive development both
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01254-00308612-00308830 yeah that's a good point but to come
+y68ylSjDIq8-01255-00308831-00309106 back on frigates point that when when
+y68ylSjDIq8-01256-00309107-00309343 you look at this this oculus rift story
+y68ylSjDIq8-01257-00309344-00309646 it looks a lot more it has a lot more of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01258-00309647-00309919 the same characteristics as as a fraud
+y68ylSjDIq8-01259-00309920-00310081 in the security space where like there
+y68ylSjDIq8-01260-00310082-00310240 was a promise that it would deliver this
+y68ylSjDIq8-01261-00310241-00310381 product but in the end the product is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01262-00310382-00310570 never delivered and you know people were
+y68ylSjDIq8-01263-00310571-00310753 disappointed maybe it's of course you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01264-00310754-00311050 know the amount invested in the wasn't
+y68ylSjDIq8-01265-00311051-00311251 as much as say it would maybe put an IC
+y68ylSjDIq8-01266-00311252-00311644 o---- and the outcome expectation was
+y68ylSjDIq8-01267-00311645-00311899 maybe the same but in a sense people
+y68ylSjDIq8-01268-00311900-00312025 would promise something in the end they
+y68ylSjDIq8-01269-00312026-00312202 didn't receive it and I don't know if
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01271-00312368-00312586 know takes that into account or not so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01272-00312587-00312805 if just in a general consumer sense if a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01273-00312806-00312964 business's promised to do something then
+y68ylSjDIq8-01274-00312965-00313213 they don't deliver every state attorney
+y68ylSjDIq8-01275-00313214-00313375 general you know would have the ability
+y68ylSjDIq8-01276-00313376-00313516 to bring in consumer action against that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01277-00313517-00313699 company and some attorneys generals did
+y68ylSjDIq8-01278-00313700-00313990 in fact bring actions against businesses
+y68ylSjDIq8-01279-00313991-00314263 on Kickstarter and other non equity
+y68ylSjDIq8-01280-00314264-00314557 platforms that did not fail to that fail
+y68ylSjDIq8-01281-00314558-00314745 to deliver because just to your point
+y68ylSjDIq8-01282-00314746-00314986 just because it's a 300 dollar product
+y68ylSjDIq8-01283-00314987-00315076 versus three hundred dollar investment
+y68ylSjDIq8-01284-00315077-00315280 if they took that money making false
+y68ylSjDIq8-01285-00315281-00315499 promises they should be certainly held
+y68ylSjDIq8-01286-00315500-00315715 accountable I'd like to move on to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01287-00315716-00315856 another point which is the transnational
+y68ylSjDIq8-01288-00315857-00316144 aspect of blockchain so yeah blocking
+y68ylSjDIq8-01289-00316145-00316483 projects and the teams themselves are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01290-00316484-00316669 often transnational so a lot of teams
+y68ylSjDIq8-01291-00316670-00316921 working in the space have remote workers
+y68ylSjDIq8-01292-00316922-00317296 and the projects themselves are targeted
+y68ylSjDIq8-01293-00317297-00317518 and and can potentially be attractive to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01294-00317519-00317695 people from all around the world but
+y68ylSjDIq8-01295-00317696-00317935 great securities regulation itself is is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01296-00317936-00318349 a very national or state level type of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01297-00318350-00318532 activity how do you serve all that peg
+y68ylSjDIq8-01298-00318533-00318841 or square that circle and and make those
+y68ylSjDIq8-01299-00318842-00318934 two fit together
+y68ylSjDIq8-01300-00318935-00319189 in a way that you know you can you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01301-00319190-00319573 have innovation and I think some extent
+y68ylSjDIq8-01302-00319574-00319816 you know have this these these
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01304-00320071-00320368 also have regulation that protects
+y68ylSjDIq8-01305-00320369-00320634 investors yeah it's a it's a great
+y68ylSjDIq8-01306-00320635-00320986 question it's um it's both a practical
+y68ylSjDIq8-01307-00320987-00321154 question and a theoretical question
+y68ylSjDIq8-01308-00321155-00321520 almost in one and I have a couple of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01309-00321521-00321682 different ways that I want to answer it
+y68ylSjDIq8-01310-00321683-00321847 I first want to give a very specific
+y68ylSjDIq8-01311-00321848-00321984 example
+y68ylSjDIq8-01312-00321985-00322272 as relates to operation crypto sweep and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01313-00322273-00322434 some of the enforcement actions that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01314-00322435-00322659 state securities regulators are bringing
+y68ylSjDIq8-01315-00322660-00322966 so to your point that you know both the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01319-00323816-00324006 that the individuals are located not
+y68ylSjDIq8-01320-00324007-00324190 just outside of our jurisdiction meaning
+y68ylSjDIq8-01321-00324191-00324402 our state or our providence in Canada
+y68ylSjDIq8-01322-00324403-00324576 but they're outside of our country
+y68ylSjDIq8-01323-00324577-00324855 they're over in a country or a territory
+y68ylSjDIq8-01324-00324856-00324999 that maybe we've never even heard of on
+y68ylSjDIq8-01325-00325000-00325216 the map we have to look it up and how do
+y68ylSjDIq8-01326-00325217-00325482 you enforce the subpoena against that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01327-00325483-00325846 person or that entity that's far outside
+y68ylSjDIq8-01328-00325847-00326041 of our jurisdiction even the SEC has
+y68ylSjDIq8-01329-00326042-00326199 challenges with that even the Department
+y68ylSjDIq8-01330-00326200-00326419 of Justice have challenges with that in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01331-00326420-00326634 terms of enforcing subpoenas and then
+y68ylSjDIq8-01332-00326635-00326898 enforcing legal actions against
+y68ylSjDIq8-01333-00326899-00327132 individuals that are operating outside
+y68ylSjDIq8-01334-00327133-00327415 of the United States so that's a really
+y68ylSjDIq8-01335-00327416-00327666 practical issue that we're now
+y68ylSjDIq8-01336-00327667-00328026 confronting in a way that really in some
+y68ylSjDIq8-01337-00328027-00328162 ways we've never confronted before
+y68ylSjDIq8-01338-00328163-00328332 because there certainly was the internet
+y68ylSjDIq8-01339-00328333-00328527 and there's certainly you know made
+y68ylSjDIq8-01340-00328528-00328731 communication effortless around the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01341-00328732-00329065 globe but you hadn't seen on such a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01342-00329066-00329322 large scale the ability to make
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01344-00329597-00329901 were not they weren't corporate
+y68ylSjDIq8-01345-00329902-00330118 international multinational companies
+y68ylSjDIq8-01346-00330119-00330303 that were trading on the New York Stock
+y68ylSjDIq8-01347-00330304-00330466 Exchange but operating everywhere in the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01348-00330467-00330688 world these were companies that were
+y68ylSjDIq8-01349-00330689-00330922 coming out of icos and cryptocurrencies
+y68ylSjDIq8-01350-00330923-00331162 that were coming out of nowhere and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01351-00331163-00331369 blockchain projects coming out of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01352-00331370-00331594 nowhere that are able to operate
+y68ylSjDIq8-01353-00331595-00331758 anywhere in the world
+y68ylSjDIq8-01354-00331759-00332065 and in many ways do so we are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01355-00332066-00332242 confronting that real sort of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01356-00332243-00332559 jurisdictional limitation to your point
+y68ylSjDIq8-01357-00332560-00332760 just about you know how do you develop a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01358-00332761-00333045 policy that around that worldwide
+y68ylSjDIq8-01359-00333046-00333303 infrastructure certainly incumbent
+y68ylSjDIq8-01360-00333304-00333627 companies struggle with that I mean to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01361-00333628-00333882 be frank I mean companies have to deal
+y68ylSjDIq8-01362-00333883-00334165 with the United States and in its
+y68ylSjDIq8-01363-00334166-00334315 securities laws the United States and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01364-00334316-00334509 its privacy laws the European Union and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01365-00334510-00334725 its new regime relating the privacy and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01366-00334726-00335014 its securities laws and and certainly in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01367-00335015-00335305 Asia there their laws and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01368-00335306-00335532 can be even considerably different and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01369-00335533-00335665 even the approaches that these countries
+y68ylSjDIq8-01370-00335666-00335821 were taking so that's something that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01371-00335822-00335989 international companies certainly have
+y68ylSjDIq8-01372-00335990-00336148 to struggle with and they they have the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01373-00336149-00336349 resources and and the ability to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01374-00336350-00336529 navigate that but a lot of startup
+y68ylSjDIq8-01375-00336530-00336769 companies a lot of new projects might
+y68ylSjDIq8-01376-00336770-00337072 struggle pretty severely with that and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01377-00337073-00337318 it could certainly stifle and prevent
+y68ylSjDIq8-01378-00337319-00337641 innovation so I think what's what's the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01379-00337642-00337884 solution loosen yeah I think so there's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01380-00337885-00338227 one just one historical note you know in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01381-00338228-00338446 the United States when somebody did a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01382-00338447-00338910 national IPO nowadays you go to the SEC
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01384-00339164-00339454 you offer it nationally it used to be
+y68ylSjDIq8-01385-00339455-00339640 that you actually had to bring that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01386-00339641-00339796 offering to each of the individual
+y68ylSjDIq8-01387-00339797-00339960 states in the United States and get it
+y68ylSjDIq8-01388-00339961-00340168 approved and if it wasn't approved in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01389-00340169-00340330 Vermont you could do your IPO and the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01390-00340331-00340527 other 49 states but not in Vermont so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01391-00340528-00340864 you basically had 51 regulators if you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01392-00340865-00341074 take the 50 states and the SEC approving
+y68ylSjDIq8-01393-00341075-00341497 an IPO and then in 2000 or sorry in 1996
+y68ylSjDIq8-01394-00341498-00341821 much sure grinev state regulators but
+y68ylSjDIq8-01395-00341822-00342067 they had federal Congress passed
+y68ylSjDIq8-01396-00342068-00342244 something called Nizhny I was basically
+y68ylSjDIq8-01397-00342245-00342523 a national improve the the markets act
+y68ylSjDIq8-01398-00342524-00342754 and the intent was to take the state
+y68ylSjDIq8-01399-00342755-00342892 securities regulators out of that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01400-00342893-00343102 decision and put that authority with the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01401-00343103-00343351 SEC because it was a national offering
+y68ylSjDIq8-01402-00343352-00343543 it wasn't localized it did have an
+y68ylSjDIq8-01403-00343544-00343771 impact on a local jurisdiction but it
+y68ylSjDIq8-01404-00343772-00344038 was a much broader national scope in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01405-00344039-00344269 terms of its impact in a national
+y68ylSjDIq8-01406-00344270-00344505 regulator should be the one with primary
+y68ylSjDIq8-01407-00344506-00344773 authority over that so my point in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01408-00344774-00344934 telling you that historical anecdote is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01409-00344935-00345244 you know could you see a situation many
+y68ylSjDIq8-01410-00345245-00345459 years down the road we're an
+y68ylSjDIq8-01411-00345460-00345868 international multinational securities
+y68ylSjDIq8-01412-00345869-00346090 offering is being regulated by some body
+y68ylSjDIq8-01413-00346091-00346359 that you know is overseen by multiple
+y68ylSjDIq8-01414-00346360-00346771 member country nation members and maybe
+y68ylSjDIq8-01415-00346772-00346975 that's a solution you know if you're
+y68ylSjDIq8-01416-00346976-00347152 trying to think again on the theoretical
+y68ylSjDIq8-01417-00347153-00347430 side but certainly first steps to get
+y68ylSjDIq8-01418-00347431-00347470 there
+y68ylSjDIq8-01419-00347471-00347641 there's certainly two concrete first
+y68ylSjDIq8-01420-00347642-00347875 steps to get there I think one is that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01421-00347876-00348076 individual jurisdictions have to wrestle
+y68ylSjDIq8-01422-00348077-00348258 with this and wrestle with the guidance
+y68ylSjDIq8-01423-00348259-00348534 that should be provided so the SEC
+y68ylSjDIq8-01424-00348535-00348646 recently put
+y68ylSjDIq8-01425-00348647-00348937 out a framework for icos that was a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01426-00348938-00349326 helpful first step but then on the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01427-00349327-00349560 national level and international level
+y68ylSjDIq8-01428-00349561-00349908 the sec nasa other regulators
+y68ylSjDIq8-01429-00349909-00350206 internationally need to start working
+y68ylSjDIq8-01430-00350207-00350527 and communicating with each other in a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01431-00350528-00350803 more concrete way we certainly have
+y68ylSjDIq8-01432-00350804-00351151 organizations that have facilitated that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01433-00351152-00351466 interaction in the past but more so now
+y68ylSjDIq8-01434-00351467-00351750 than ever is the need for national
+y68ylSjDIq8-01435-00351751-00351970 regulators to interact with each other
+y68ylSjDIq8-01436-00351971-00352300 because it's no longer a United States
+y68ylSjDIq8-01437-00352301-00352477 issue is no longer a Canadian issue it's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01438-00352478-00352621 a worldwide issue whether you're talking
+y68ylSjDIq8-01439-00352622-00352882 about blockchain development icos
+y68ylSjDIq8-01440-00352883-00353232 cybersecurity issues these are really
+y68ylSjDIq8-01441-00353233-00353523 matters that are impacting a business
+y68ylSjDIq8-01442-00353524-00353784 anywhere in the globe by anybody
+y68ylSjDIq8-01443-00353785-00354009 anywhere in the globe so we really you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01444-00354010-00354178 know need to start facilitating better
+y68ylSjDIq8-01445-00354179-00354456 communication so those are sort of two
+y68ylSjDIq8-01446-00354457-00354733 concrete steps better formalize your
+y68ylSjDIq8-01447-00354734-00354964 guidance within your jurisdiction and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01448-00354965-00355354 then work to harmonize that guidance
+y68ylSjDIq8-01449-00355355-00355576 with other international regulatory
+y68ylSjDIq8-01450-00355577-00355796 bodies
+y68ylSjDIq8-01451-00355797-00356054 despite the fact that in principle these
+y68ylSjDIq8-01452-00356055-00356235 steps that are being developed by
+y68ylSjDIq8-01453-00356236-00356603 proctoring companies would be usable all
+y68ylSjDIq8-01454-00356604-00356912 over the globe many companies have
+y68ylSjDIq8-01455-00356913-00357254 actually chosen to geo block the u.s. in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01456-00357255-00357590 orders to not get in a sticky situation
+y68ylSjDIq8-01457-00357591-00358079 with US securities laws so US securities
+y68ylSjDIq8-01458-00358080-00358360 laws are seen as much more restrictive
+y68ylSjDIq8-01459-00358361-00358793 in many terms compared to to other
+y68ylSjDIq8-01460-00358794-00359039 jurisdictions do you think that in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01461-00359040-00359387 itself stifles innovation yeah it
+y68ylSjDIq8-01462-00359388-00359603 certainly can certainly can stifle
+y68ylSjDIq8-01463-00359604-00359891 innovation and and I do have just a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01464-00359892-00360197 couple of reactions to that first and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01465-00360198-00360617 foremost is you know I've even as a rip
+y68ylSjDIq8-01466-00360618-00360896 state regulator I've been surprised by
+y68ylSjDIq8-01467-00360897-00361214 how open the SEC is to having
+y68ylSjDIq8-01468-00361215-00361598 conversations with cryptocurrency ico
+y68ylSjDIq8-01469-00361599-00362000 blockchain products that that impact you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01470-00362001-00362144 know the securities marketplace are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01471-00362145-00362363 implemented and you know they have an
+y68ylSjDIq8-01472-00362364-00362495 involvement in the securities market
+y68ylSjDIq8-01473-00362496-00362809 place they have been very open and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01474-00362810-00363098 interested they have a FinTech group at
+y68ylSjDIq8-01475-00363099-00363440 the SEC that has had individual meetings
+y68ylSjDIq8-01476-00363441-00363590 with companies that has provided them
+y68ylSjDIq8-01477-00363591-00363941 guidance both in terms of guidance that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01478-00363942-00364289 is individualized and also for companies
+y68ylSjDIq8-01479-00364290-00364472 generally that are operating in that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01480-00364473-00364681 space state securities regulator
+y68ylSjDIq8-01481-00364682-00364984 similarly are certainly open to hearing
+y68ylSjDIq8-01482-00364985-00365291 new ideas and new projects so certainly
+y68ylSjDIq8-01483-00365292-00365474 my first piece of advice to those
+y68ylSjDIq8-01484-00365475-00365852 companies is to engage with the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01485-00365853-00366041 regulators here in the United States to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01486-00366042-00366269 make sure that you fully understand the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01487-00366270-00366500 avenues that are available to you to get
+y68ylSjDIq8-01488-00366501-00366830 either registered or to get an exemption
+y68ylSjDIq8-01489-00366831-00367100 from registration they're basically at
+y68ylSjDIq8-01490-00367101-00367367 the very broadest levels three different
+y68ylSjDIq8-01491-00367368-00367601 categories that an investment can fall
+y68ylSjDIq8-01492-00367602-00367841 into it can be a registered offering
+y68ylSjDIq8-01493-00367842-00368029 which means you go through the full
+y68ylSjDIq8-01494-00368030-00368281 registration process at the SEC or at
+y68ylSjDIq8-01495-00368282-00368480 the state level or there can be an
+y68ylSjDIq8-01496-00368481-00368840 exemption from registration so you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01497-00368841-00369023 the SEC and the states have found that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01498-00369024-00369215 certain transactions don't need to be
+y68ylSjDIq8-01499-00369216-00369553 fully regulated by a body here in the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01500-00369554-00369752 United States or the joke is that the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01501-00369753-00369902 rest of the third category are all
+y68ylSjDIq8-01502-00369903-00370175 illegal transactions and you know I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01503-00370176-00370343 think it just illustrates the point that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01504-00370344-00370528 that folks should think about how do you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01505-00370529-00370780 get into compliance either from either
+y68ylSjDIq8-01506-00370781-00371007 from registering and I do agree that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01507-00371008-00371351 registration process is largely for
+y68ylSjDIq8-01508-00371352-00371557 companies that are more mature that have
+y68ylSjDIq8-01509-00371558-00371951 a more sophisticated you know sort of a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01510-00371952-00372208 footprint and offering and it costs a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01511-00372209-00372382 lot of money it costs money to get
+y68ylSjDIq8-01512-00372383-00372679 professionals attorneys accountants
+y68ylSjDIq8-01513-00372680-00372914 investment bankers so that is certainly
+y68ylSjDIq8-01514-00372915-00373100 an opportunity that does not present
+y68ylSjDIq8-01515-00373101-00373327 itself to everybody particularly startup
+y68ylSjDIq8-01516-00373328-00373667 companies and then if it's not through a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01517-00373668-00373817 registration process what are the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01519-00374064-00374356 community and largely is circles back a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01520-00374357-00374553 little bit to a point we had earlier
+y68ylSjDIq8-01521-00374554-00374798 largely those exemptions that are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01522-00374799-00375028 available are private exemptions meaning
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01524-00375219-00375575 to accredited investors but largely Main
+y68ylSjDIq8-01525-00375576-00375893 Street investors are shut off from that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01526-00375894-00376265 opportunity so there have been
+y68ylSjDIq8-01527-00376266-00376541 discussions at the SEC recently and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01528-00376542-00376763 we've been engaged with them on this to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01529-00376764-00376943 change the definition of an accredited
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01531-00377214-00377404 categories of people come into that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01532-00377405-00377639 definition and certainly that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01533-00377640-00377806 something on a personal level that I've
+y68ylSjDIq8-01534-00377807-00378178 been supportive of particularly younger
+y68ylSjDIq8-01535-00378179-00378550 people they might not have developed the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01536-00378551-00378890 assets to become a accredited investor
+y68ylSjDIq8-01537-00378891-00379025 they might not have the income yet to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01538-00379026-00379210 become an accredited investor but they
+y68ylSjDIq8-01539-00379211-00379417 have sufficient knowledge to make them a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01540-00379418-00379681 sophisticated investor and certainly the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01541-00379682-00380024 SEC should think about that and and can
+y68ylSjDIq8-01542-00380025-00380206 you allow people to make investments in
+y68ylSjDIq8-01543-00380207-00380339 these private offerings if they have
+y68ylSjDIq8-01544-00380340-00380776 sufficient knowledge and expertise and I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01545-00380777-00381014 would suggest that you should look to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01546-00381015-00381275 allowing them to do that but at the same
+y68ylSjDIq8-01547-00381276-00381454 time you should try to protect and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01548-00381455-00381733 mitigate the amount of money that could
+y68ylSjDIq8-01549-00381734-00381917 be lost so maybe you put an investment
+y68ylSjDIq8-01550-00381918-00382115 cap on those type of individuals that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01551-00382116-00382394 they could only invest you know $25,000
+y68ylSjDIq8-01552-00382395-00382554 a year $40,000 a year whatever
+y68ylSjDIq8-01553-00382555-00382932 it might be so to answer your point you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01554-00382933-00383262 know the u.s. laws can be complex as
+y68ylSjDIq8-01555-00383263-00383616 they exist now it's hard to get a token
+y68ylSjDIq8-01556-00383617-00383859 offering into the hands of a Main Street
+y68ylSjDIq8-01557-00383860-00384213 investor but it is possible and there
+y68ylSjDIq8-01558-00384214-00384366 are other exemptions that people are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01559-00384367-00384753 trying out in an effort to do that so I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01560-00384754-00385101 do encourage any projects to sit down
+y68ylSjDIq8-01561-00385102-00385362 with a regulator to try to get more
+y68ylSjDIq8-01562-00385363-00385563 information to try to work with them to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01563-00385564-00385809 see how you could structure your deal to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01564-00385810-00386028 make that plausible a but at the same
+y68ylSjDIq8-01565-00386029-00386202 time there's certainly more work that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01566-00386203-00386340 needs to happen on our side of the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01567-00386341-00386490 equation on our side of the Ledger's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01568-00386491-00386832 regulators to think about how do you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01569-00386833-00387108 what's the appropriate balance to allow
+y68ylSjDIq8-01570-00387109-00387327 folks to get into this marketplace as
+y68ylSjDIq8-01571-00387328-00387717 investors while still making sure they
+y68ylSjDIq8-01572-00387718-00388248 have a level of protection and don't you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01573-00388249-00388431 know lose their entire retirement or
+y68ylSjDIq8-01574-00388432-00388647 life savings in an investment that goes
+y68ylSjDIq8-01575-00388648-00389010 south yeah I think that's a decent
+y68ylSjDIq8-01576-00389011-00389388 approach to to look at investors more on
+y68ylSjDIq8-01577-00389389-00389625 the basis of you know sophisticated and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01578-00389626-00389907 unsophisticated rather than wealthy or
+y68ylSjDIq8-01579-00389908-00390210 non wealthy because you know in today's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01580-00390211-00390420 day and age I think probably this wasn't
+y68ylSjDIq8-01581-00390421-00390540 the case before I mean obviously wasn't
+y68ylSjDIq8-01582-00390541-00390672 think it's before it maybe this is why
+y68ylSjDIq8-01583-00390673-00390963 these laws were implemented today people
+y68ylSjDIq8-01584-00390964-00391152 haven't access to new buses an abundance
+y68ylSjDIq8-01585-00391153-00391400 of resources that allow them to become
+y68ylSjDIq8-01586-00391401-00391740 highly knowledgeable and gain this is a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01587-00391741-00391943 sophisticated amount of knowledge about
+y68ylSjDIq8-01588-00391944-00392297 you know things like I SEOs things like
+y68ylSjDIq8-01589-00392298-00392550 investing in these types of projects
+y68ylSjDIq8-01590-00392551-00392844 that didn't happen didn't you know exist
+y68ylSjDIq8-01591-00392845-00393123 before and and so I think that changes
+y68ylSjDIq8-01592-00393124-00393381 the landscape and I think that the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01593-00393382-00393645 European approach to this freely and I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01594-00393646-00393942 both being in Europe is is you know a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01595-00393943-00394221 nuanced approach to that where you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01596-00394222-00394410 when you open an investment bank account
+y68ylSjDIq8-01597-00394411-00394716 for instance the you know you you you
+y68ylSjDIq8-01598-00394717-00394884 get asked a lot of questions about your
+y68ylSjDIq8-01599-00394885-00395246 level of sophistication and of course
+y68ylSjDIq8-01600-00395247-00395532 any investment product has to come with
+y68ylSjDIq8-01601-00395533-00395769 a prospectus and like all these
+y68ylSjDIq8-01602-00395770-00395880 guidelines
+y68ylSjDIq8-01603-00395881-00396225 and what the investment entails etc so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01604-00396226-00396471 since we're coming you know towards the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01605-00396472-00396729 end of our show here like to talk about
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01608-00397444-00397680 to attract blushing companies one
+y68ylSjDIq8-01609-00397681-00397830 interesting thing that I learned right
+y68ylSjDIq8-01610-00397831-00398100 before this podcast is that Vermont has
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01613-00398674-00398946 to dowse to have some sort of a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01616-00399310-00399669 both this PDE LLC yeah happy to talk
+y68ylSjDIq8-01617-00399670-00399765 about the blockchain
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01619-00400090-00400281 last session in our legislature this was
+y68ylSjDIq8-01620-00400282-00400611 one element of that bill that I really
+y68ylSjDIq8-01621-00400612-00400926 did get interested in and excited in
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01623-00401299-00401541 with regulators but legislators you know
+y68ylSjDIq8-01624-00401542-00401753 we need to try to see some of the
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01630-00402844-00403149 money and this blockchain LLC was one
+y68ylSjDIq8-01631-00403150-00403436 where I did see it solving a quite
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01642-00405982-00406299 they you know whatever and I think you
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01644-00406516-00406695 as to what they might be or what they
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01648-00407515-00407790 companies for the projects rather to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01649-00407791-00408021 decide what those legal relationships
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01652-00408406-00408735 fall within like any corporate entity
+y68ylSjDIq8-01653-00408736-00408957 but really it provides much greater
+y68ylSjDIq8-01654-00408958-00409254 level of flexibility for them to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01656-00409534-00409818 of the various players in a public
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01680-00415858-00416072 absolutely needed in this space and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01681-00416072-00416357 Vermont also announced a pilot project
+y68ylSjDIq8-01682-00416358-00416571 in captive insurance and for our
+y68ylSjDIq8-01683-00416572-00416826 listenership could you first explain
+y68ylSjDIq8-01684-00416827-00417053 very briefly what captive insurance is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01685-00417054-00417251 and talk a little bit about this project
+y68ylSjDIq8-01686-00417252-00417557 yes happy to and and yeah captive
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01691-00418699-00418989 you all of us on this podcast that we
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01701-00421177-00421385 insurance companies to purchase their
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01714-00424068-00424247 insurance from a third-party insurance
+y68ylSjDIq8-01715-00424248-00424539 company so as I mentioned Vermont you
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01724-00426457-00426650 secretary of state relating to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01732-00428064-00428327 their companies so they have a level of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01733-00428328-00428631 interest in participating in a similar
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01736-00429146-00429395 again I'll get back to this concept that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01737-00429396-00429581 you know I really am trying to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01738-00429582-00429837 appreciate the academic and theoretical
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01743-00430947-00431243 idea and for me this is a really really
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01748-00432367-00432548 staff here at the Department the staff
+y68ylSjDIq8-01749-00432549-00432708 at the Secretary of State's office here
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01753-00433351-00433622 the technology that companies can file
+y68ylSjDIq8-01754-00433623-00433835 basically what the pilot would do is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01755-00433836-00434031 allow new captive insurance companies to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01758-00434499-00434681 filings and the like through a
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01761-00435222-00435383 again I don't think we're going to get a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01762-00435384-00435566 tremendous amount of great efficiencies
+y68ylSjDIq8-01763-00435567-00435675 I don't think this is going to be the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01764-00435676-00435872 greatest you know thing that any state
+y68ylSjDIq8-01765-00435873-00435963 government or
+y68ylSjDIq8-01766-00435964-00436152 or the industry has ever done but what
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01769-00436516-00436701 the technology and then allow us to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01770-00436702-00436968 identify areas where we can scale up so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01771-00436968-00437222 the Secretary of State handles thousands
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01782-00439684-00439868 more accurate those are all of the
+y68ylSjDIq8-01783-00439870-00440118 answers that we're hoping to get out of
+y68ylSjDIq8-01784-00440118-00440382 this pilot project so we're very excited
+y68ylSjDIq8-01785-00440383-00440543 about it you know we're one of the first
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01792-00442318-00442643 where that will take us great that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01793-00442645-00442971 that's really fascinating and so finally
+y68ylSjDIq8-01794-00442972-00443163 I'd like to ask you a little bit about
+y68ylSjDIq8-01795-00443164-00443730 your your goals as president of the net
+y68ylSjDIq8-01796-00443731-00443925 of NASA you know what you hope to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01799-00444541-00444741 over six months yeah but yeah that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01800-00444742-00444906 exactly right we're halfway through my
+y68ylSjDIq8-01801-00444907-00445158 presidential term okay so okay so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01802-00445159-00445329 presidential terms are quite short then
+y68ylSjDIq8-01803-00445330-00445510 now what do you what do you hope to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01805-00445858-00446076 yes for sure so you're absolutely right
+y68ylSjDIq8-01806-00446077-00446295 I mean you can't achieve much during a
+y68ylSjDIq8-01807-00446296-00446442 single year so you really what you have
+y68ylSjDIq8-01808-00446443-00446781 to do is make sure that you start early
+y68ylSjDIq8-01809-00446782-00446931 you lay the groundwork for any
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01812-00447424-00447567 are going to follow you are going to be
+y68ylSjDIq8-01813-00447568-00447864 interested in continuing on so
+y68ylSjDIq8-01814-00447864-00448077 personally what I hope to achieve I'm
+y68ylSjDIq8-01815-00448078-00448266 the first millennial president of NASA
+y68ylSjDIq8-01816-00448267-00448503 we wanted to have more focus on
+y68ylSjDIq8-01817-00448504-00448691 millennial issues as it relates to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01818-00448692-00448922 investing and as it relates to
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01820-00449206-00449343 basically as you probably from
+y68ylSjDIq8-01821-00449345-00449554 Millennials are saddled with student
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01823-00449771-00450028 that you know the traditional hallmarks
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01826-00450541-00450843 and it really in some ways is causing
+y68ylSjDIq8-01827-00450843-00451122 many different social impacts than
+y68ylSjDIq8-01828-00451124-00451339 people are I think even appreciating and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01829-00451339-00451489 realize and certainly states like
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01831-00451700-00451870 to leave the state to get jobs at our
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01834-00452243-00452512 immediate impact on our economy and then
+y68ylSjDIq8-01835-00452513-00452878 you're seeing again young young folks
+y68ylSjDIq8-01836-00452879-00453046 that are just starting out or folks that
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01839-00453371-00453543 saved for retirement and that's going to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01840-00453545-00453838 be a considerable issue when they don't
+y68ylSjDIq8-01841-00453839-00453985 have time on their side anymore and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01842-00453985-00454126 they're getting closer to retirement age
+y68ylSjDIq8-01843-00454127-00454321 so highlighting those types of issues is
+y68ylSjDIq8-01844-00454322-00454483 one of the things I really wanted to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01845-00454484-00454777 accomplish as NASA president get that
+y68ylSjDIq8-01846-00454778-00455112 Congress conversation started and to get
+y68ylSjDIq8-01847-00455113-00455485 policy makers in Congress at the SEC and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01848-00455485-00455770 at the States more focused on on
+y68ylSjDIq8-01849-00455771-00455953 millennial issues as relates to
+y68ylSjDIq8-01850-00455954-00456259 financial services great well that's
+y68ylSjDIq8-01851-00456260-00456489 very encouraging well thank you for
+y68ylSjDIq8-01852-00456491-00456757 joining us on our podcast today and good
+y68ylSjDIq8-01853-00456758-00456918 luck for the rest of your term well
+y68ylSjDIq8-01854-00456920-00457093 thank you it's been my pleasure I really
+y68ylSjDIq8-01855-00457093-00457393 do appreciate it and I do congratulate
+y68ylSjDIq8-01856-00457393-00457675 you as well for for sticking with this
+y68ylSjDIq8-01857-00457676-00457810 podcast I understand you guys been doing
+y68ylSjDIq8-01858-00457810-00458056 it now for five years and every week
+y68ylSjDIq8-01859-00458057-00458299 that's that is something that's really
+y68ylSjDIq8-01860-00458300-00458539 difficult to keep up with and to do so I
+y68ylSjDIq8-01861-00458539-00458767 applaud you for your perseverance and
+y68ylSjDIq8-01862-00458768-00459018 and focus on these issues that are
+y68ylSjDIq8-01863-00459020-00459250 really important issues thank you both
+y68ylSjDIq8-01864-00459251-00459583 thank you thanks a lot that yeah it it
+y68ylSjDIq8-01865-00459584-00459820 has been five years and it's not always
+y68ylSjDIq8-01866-00459821-00460168 easy but all right thank you Michael
+y68ylSjDIq8-01867-00460168-00460452 thank you
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+y68ylSjDIq8-01877-00462216-00462431 thanks for watching at the center and we
+y68ylSjDIq8-01878-00462432-00462767 hope you'll join us for our next episode
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00059-00013779-00013963 that the member uses himself or seven
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00060-00013965-00014177 ninety-nine percent so yes there are
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00061-00014178-00014372 certainly improvements to be made
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00062-00014372-00014555 that's why an improvement plan has been
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00068-00015699-00015938 request you to think positively about
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00071-00016383-00016529 I'm sure there'll be improvements made
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00072-00016530-00016775 and you will see some action on that so
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00073-00016776-00016940 let's get some perspective on this
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00074-00016941-00017102 yes the ppm targets been missed by
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00075-00017103-00017339 one-point-six percent accident pushing
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00076-00017340-00017453 Scott real father
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00077-00017454-00017633 let's see what that improvement plan
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00078-00017634-00018089 Linda Fabiani thank you for saving
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00079-00018090-00018299 office and I didn't tend to rate it to
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00080-00018300-00018446 the minister about this but i'd like to
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00082-00018642-00018812 traveling experiences i'm getting
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00085-00019401-00019583 with the minister meets sure that when i
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00086-00019584-00019829 do send Leslie to letter detailing some
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00087-00019830-00020081 of the experiences really to me over the
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00088-00020082-00020282 last few weeks that he will very quickly
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00091-00020724-00020993 Minister yes of course I will not
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00094-00021417-00021650 statistics but actually over the year as
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00095-00021651-00021821 I say the performance has not been
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00103-00023196-00023594 constituents in school brain can BTW can
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00104-00023595-00023798 ask the minister of what measures the
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00105-00023799-00024008 scottish government's take him to expand
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00107-00024243-00024569 Minister yes the memories an important
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00108-00024570-00024815 point of course the good news story on
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00113-00025670-00025864 say that doesn't say that same coin is
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00139-00031594-00031893 cabinet secretary finishing the officer
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00157-00035838-00036052 next year which will further improve
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00166-00038225-00038386 honest
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00167-00038387-00038593 but what I would say is that as I said
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00177-00040664-00040909 that's not really a proposition that one
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00179-00041084-00041353 Party but despite the despite that fact
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00180-00041354-00041662 I can inform members that under the
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00194-00044936-00045109 see what can the scottish government do
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00195-00045110-00045310 to assist pocket canceled in efforts to
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00197-00045500-00045721 and the way to focus district and social
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00200-00046052-00046312 cabinet secretary that well we we do
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00209-00048014-00048124 the scottish government is also
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00215-00049295-00049495 mr. McDonald races are followed up with
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00218-00050123-00050413 Richard lamb Thank You Jane ourselves a
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00219-00050414-00050668 cabinet secretary as tired as I am of
+y6r-wpnXIvY-00220-00050669-00050830 heating the Tories complain about the
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00227-00052097-00052516 agency well Tory fatigue is just one of
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00229-00052769-00053020 the Scottish Parliament but to answer
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+y6r-wpnXIvY-00243-00056582-00056805 Artemis Findlay it playoffs of the day
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+y6vk2fSMH_k-00000-00000055-00000318 kart World Series a game for the
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00001-00000319-00000562 PlayStation published and developed by
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00002-00000563-00000804 Sony Computer Entertainment and released
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00003-00000805-00001353 on September 16 1997 kart World Series
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00004-00001354-00001560 is based on the championship
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00005-00001561-00001855 auto racing teams Kart open wheel racing
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+y6vk2fSMH_k-00008-00003089-00003385 this game is licensed and features many
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00009-00003386-00003736 notable drivers from the late 1990s such
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00010-00003736-00004000 as Greg Moore Al Unser jr. and Paul
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00011-00004001-00004384 Tracy the game also features realistic
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+y6vk2fSMH_k-00048-00014812-00015550 of both for 4 players
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00049-00015551-00016639 topic list of drivers and teams
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00050-00016640-00017293 topic external links
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00051-00017294-00017758 kart World Series at IGN carp world
+y6vk2fSMH_k-00052-00017759-00018064 series at mobygames
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00000-00000016-00000191 uh so today we're going to talk about
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00001-00000192-00000342 zoom video editing
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00002-00000343-00000574 uh i had a couple questions this week
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00003-00000575-00000695 and it's actually something that i
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00004-00000696-00000782 encountered
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00005-00000783-00001183 quite often it's kind of annoying
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00006-00001184-00001462 right you you want hd video and so you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00007-00001463-00001614 hop into zoom you're like oh i'm gonna
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00008-00001616-00001702 record a video
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00009-00001703-00001855 interview with somebody or maybe just
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00010-00001855-00001991 you and somebody else wants to do a
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00011-00001992-00002134 video promo
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00012-00002135-00002326 or you and somebody on your team want to
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00013-00002327-00002575 do record a video for real estate or for
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00014-00002576-00002791 whatever business you're in and when you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00015-00002792-00003023 get the video from
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00016-00003024-00003222 zoom what happens is if it's just you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00017-00003223-00003470 and another person right you have 16 9
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00018-00003471-00003727 so let's imagine 16 9 this is my phone
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00019-00003728-00003790 cover
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00020-00003792-00004206 69 here right and you have another 16 9
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00021-00004207-00004399 together there's no way that both of
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00022-00004400-00004527 those uh
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00023-00004528-00004695 when it's formatted like that could be
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00024-00004696-00004847 on the screen and so what they do is
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00025-00004848-00004991 they letterbox it's called where you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00026-00004992-00005286 have the videos down like this
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00027-00005287-00005463 and then you have black on top black on
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00028-00005464-00005751 the bottom now for me
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00029-00005752-00006038 i like that i like it i like it so i'm
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00030-00006039-00006095 gonna
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00031-00006096-00006431 share my screen over here show in the
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00032-00006431-00006606 stream and for some of you i'm gonna try
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00033-00006608-00006878 to flip the camera around over here
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00034-00006879-00007046 on instagram so you guys can kind of see
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00035-00007047-00007367 what i'm doing but let me show
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00036-00007368-00007710 my screen one second and go like that
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00037-00007711-00007863 and then we're gonna go picture and
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00038-00007864-00008039 picture
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00039-00008040-00008423 other way thank you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00040-00008424-00008646 all right so i'm going to split this
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00041-00008647-00008759 around here for you guys
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00042-00008760-00009183 on instagram cancel
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00043-00009184-00009414 okay so you hopefully you can see some
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00044-00009415-00009695 of that yeah you can
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00045-00009696-00010014 all right so here i have my ig
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00046-00010015-00010327 program or my ig program this is movavi
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00047-00010328-00010606 video suite i use movavi video suite
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00048-00010607-00010910 for 99 of my video editing and so i'm
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00049-00010911-00011103 not just hold that there
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00050-00011104-00011406 for those of you give me one second on
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00051-00011407-00011727 facebook let's see the best way for me
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00052-00011728-00012359 to do this for you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00053-00012360-00012735 all right all right my instagram friends
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00054-00012736-00012879 you're gonna have to just tune in
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00055-00012880-00013238 on facebook go to facebook.com
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00056-00013240-00013566 facebook.com jmanspeaks you can get the
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00057-00013568-00013703 full effect it's too hard for me to hold
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00058-00013704-00013886 the phone and then also do
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00059-00013887-00014111 what i'm doing so go to facebook we
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00060-00014112-00014203 really appreciate you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00061-00014204-00014527 jeremiah j man speaks
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00062-00014528-00014807 all right man it's so hard multitasking
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00063-00014808-00014958 even though i love it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00064-00014959-00015119 okay so here i am with movavi video
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00065-00015119-00015294 suite and i'm going to go to some
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00066-00015295-00015630 files that i've already imported today
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00067-00015631-00015807 i thought i imported today yeah here
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00068-00015808-00016055 they are they're in my media bin
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00069-00016056-00016366 okay so this is a zoom that i recorded
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00070-00016368-00016671 with christopher abbasi's this was a
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00071-00016672-00016791 welcome video that
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00072-00016792-00017415 we did for our social ninja group
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00073-00017416-00017814 hopefully you're on there sometime right
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00074-00017815-00018022 uh hold on a second over here and i'll
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00075-00018023-00018283 give you one quick
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00076-00018284-00020447 little
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00077-00020448-00021083 so i'm gonna bring the video down in
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00078-00021084-00021214 here
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00079-00021215-00022247 like that load for a second
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00080-00022248-00022543 okay so let's just bring the video over
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00081-00022544-00022694 and for those of you who've used zoom
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00082-00022695-00022767 before
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00083-00022768-00022975 um i discovered you know they actually
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00084-00022976-00023207 did downgrade the
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00085-00023208-00023478 the resolution of the video used to be
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00086-00023479-00023647 hd quality now i think it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00087-00023648-00023871 it's back you have to make sure that
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00090-00024448-00024814 checked i will say that if you have low
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00092-00025023-00025150 because
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00093-00025151-00025478 you can have issues now
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00094-00025479-00025639 i am part of an enterprise group with
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00095-00025639-00025814 the national speakers association we
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00096-00025816-00025894 actually have
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00097-00025895-00026087 group hd video but then we can choose
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00098-00026088-00026206 between 720
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00099-00026207-00026462 and 1080p so if you're part of that
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00100-00026463-00026543 group
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00101-00026544-00026767 um make sure that you check 1080p so you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00102-00026768-00026911 can get that nice crisp
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00103-00026912-00027246 hd video okay all right so here's what
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00104-00027247-00027423 the video looks like
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00105-00027424-00027543 now if you're recording a video by
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00106-00027544-00027718 yourself let me just that's what it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00107-00027719-00027839 looks like
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00108-00027839-00028190 very exciting right um and so what i did
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00109-00028191-00028358 is i created these overlays there's two
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00111-00028472-00028679 um and and i went over this in a
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00112-00028680-00028870 separate video that i created about how
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00113-00028872-00029031 to create overlays
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00114-00029032-00029318 but you could hop into canva uh and then
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00115-00029319-00029383 just
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00120-00030232-00030495 i use preview on mac but you could do
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00121-00030495-00030614 that on just about
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00122-00030616-00030895 any photo editing program select an area
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00123-00030895-00031014 that you want to cut out
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00124-00031016-00031223 hit delete and now it's gone now you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00125-00031224-00031327 have an overlay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00126-00031327-00031439 right because when you're talking about
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00127-00031439-00031670 videos there's just layers of things so
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00128-00031672-00031839 you want your overlay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00129-00031839-00032302 to be overlaid on your video itself
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00130-00032303-00032727 let me demonstrate
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00131-00032727-00032871 okay so for this video there's a couple
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00132-00032872-00033031 of things i'm not gonna go into
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00133-00033032-00033215 too much but everything i do on zoom
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00134-00033216-00033367 there's always the intro part of it that
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00135-00033368-00033543 needs to be kind of trimmed off
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00136-00033544-00033671 so i'm gonna come in here and go like
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00137-00033672-00033815 this and go okay this is where we
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00138-00033816-00033935 started
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00139-00033936-00034287 right around here boom hit the little
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00140-00034288-00034351 scissors
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00141-00034352-00034679 i'm cutting the film cut that
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00142-00034680-00034935 cut that cut that cut that all right
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00143-00034936-00035143 delete it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00144-00035144-00035415 what's the cost for movavi yes uh lisa
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00145-00035416-00035590 so mo bobby's actually
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00146-00035591-00035815 it was cheaper but of course pandemic
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00147-00035816-00036039 everything video related now has
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00148-00036040-00036335 has skyrocketed in price but it's only
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00149-00036336-00036543 84.99 i believe
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00150-00036544-00036815 for movavi video suite is for the entire
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00151-00036816-00036927 uh video suite on
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00152-00036928-00037159 on windows but if you have a mac you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00153-00037160-00037390 have mobavi video editor
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00154-00037391-00037559 and then you have movavi screen recorder
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00155-00037560-00037815 then you have movavi
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00156-00037816-00038102 video converter three different programs
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00157-00038103-00038335 for windows it's all in one program
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00158-00038336-00038535 but all in you're looking at 84.99 it's
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00159-00038536-00038711 a one-time purchase there's no yearly
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00160-00038712-00038807 licensing fee
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00161-00038808-00038967 which is what i love about it a lot of
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00162-00038968-00039143 the video programs
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00163-00039144-00039311 you try them and you're like oh i really
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00164-00039312-00039439 like this and then you have to renew
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00165-00039440-00039583 every single freaking year
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00166-00039584-00039846 uh animoto's like that a lot of the
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00167-00039847-00040046 other movie maker type programs are like
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00168-00040047-00040118 that
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00169-00040119-00040374 and you know we get licensed feed to
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00170-00040375-00040518 death so i like to try to keep your
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00171-00040519-00040718 costs on if i can
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00172-00040719-00040943 all right so i've trimmed that now you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00173-00040944-00041230 can see this is the whole video because
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00174-00041231-00041471 it's the interview side by side but then
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00175-00041472-00041583 you have the letterbox
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00176-00041584-00041790 the black on the bottom and the top um
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00177-00041791-00042046 i've already created my overlay again i
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00178-00042047-00042246 told you because it's overlaying
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00179-00042247-00042551 that i'm going to bring it over here
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00180-00042552-00042815 whoops i don't want it in front what i
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00181-00042816-00042974 want you see how it's a layer
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00182-00042975-00043415 i want it on top see what i'm doing here
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00183-00043416-00043983 and i want the whole length of the video
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00184-00043984-00044415 like that okay now okay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00185-00044416-00044599 i'm gonna look at and go man i don't
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00186-00044600-00044855 it's not exactly where i want it to be
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00187-00044856-00045055 so then i can come in here and go okay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00188-00045056-00045174 overlay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00189-00045175-00045918 and i can adjust the size of this
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00190-00045919-00046495 make sure that it's centered
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00191-00046496-00046630 oh that little line tells me it's
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00192-00046631-00046823 centered come back over
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00193-00046824-00047167 here okay and again i'll i
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00194-00047168-00047423 i can keep doing that until it's perfect
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00195-00047424-00047695 that's one way to do it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00196-00047696-00047871 second way to do it let me get rid of
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00197-00047872-00048062 this overlay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00198-00048063-00048230 you can see how like whatever your video
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00199-00048231-00048390 is about whatever you want to make it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00200-00048391-00048574 nice whatever branding whatever
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00201-00048575-00048879 website whatever you want you can
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00202-00048880-00049135 wrap it around that video uh your other
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00203-00049136-00049207 way to do it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00204-00049208-00049543 if i delete the overlay here give that a
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00205-00049544-00049671 second
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00206-00049672-00050190 the other way to do this would be to
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00207-00050191-00050735 collect this again tools
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00208-00050736-00051190 i can make this bigger
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00209-00051191-00051407 but that's you know it's so almost gonna
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00210-00051408-00051607 be next to impossible unless both of you
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00211-00051608-00051735 unless you're you're person you're with
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00212-00051736-00051942 his screen right or stage right and your
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00213-00051944-00052119 stage left
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00214-00052120-00052287 because what happens is when you make it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00215-00052288-00052463 that big you can disappear off the
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00216-00052464-00052711 screen if you want it to be full screen
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00217-00052712-00053191 your other option would be to crop it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00218-00053191-00053623 this smaller
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00219-00053624-00054142 okay it's not all the way small
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00220-00054144-00054438 okay more like this see this little
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00221-00054439-00054582 button here that's crop
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00222-00054583-00054950 go like this i can say okay i want it to
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00224-00055120-00055238 it's automatically going to do whatever
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00225-00055239-00055423 dimensions you are see how i'm in 16 9
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00226-00055424-00055550 it could be four three could be one it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00227-00055551-00055775 could do 9 16 9 16 you do for instagram
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00228-00055776-00056126 or ig tv
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00229-00056127-00056271 if i want to crop it i'm going to bring
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00231-00056512-00056679 cuts off a little bit
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00247-00060736-00060942 okay so i could do that again again i
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00250-00061472-00061806 um you ever make a mistake in rotate
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00253-00062224-00062766 okay so if i go backwards like this
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00261-00065120-00065359 okay now let me show you the second way
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00303-00076312-00076479 right it could be any image that you
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00307-00077248-00077438 it looks better i can come in here and i
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00309-00077712-00078255 bang okay i'll go in there like this
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00314-00081432-00081615 okay so that's put that there but you
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00317-00082536-00083511 i can't it's your mic on
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00318-00083512-00083671 okay you get the idea i don't want to
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00319-00083672-00083815 believe the point there i'll stop
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00325-00084680-00084862 i would fade it to black at the end i
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00326-00084863-00085023 might add an intro in the beginning with
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00327-00085024-00085094 text
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00328-00085095-00085367 but it's that simple would that take me
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00329-00085368-00085431 15 minutes
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00330-00085432-00085623 i wasn't really showing you how to do it
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00331-00085624-00085743 so let me stop
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00332-00085744-00085888 and share on that
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00334-00086072-00086382 and bring it back to the full screen
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00335-00086383-00086735 okay well that's it folks i don't see
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00336-00086736-00087231 any other questions formulating anywhere
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00337-00087232-00087335 but if you're watching this on the
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00339-00087527-00087631 questions there
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00340-00087632-00087838 i'll be happy to help you out again this
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00341-00087839-00088062 is how to edit
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+ywAz7uGnHFo-00344-00088592-00088743 recorded okay
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00345-00088744-00089015 this is jeremiah manero j man speaks
+ywAz7uGnHFo-00346-00089016-00089768 make it a great day
+yyQ8xVculZk-00000-00000006-00000296 hydration is one of the most important
+yyQ8xVculZk-00001-00000297-00000566 things you can do for your body hey
+yyQ8xVculZk-00002-00000567-00000719 everybody I'm Lance squeaky and today
+yyQ8xVculZk-00003-00000720-00001066 we're talking about water so there's
+yyQ8xVculZk-00004-00001067-00001312 this you know people have talked about
+yyQ8xVculZk-00005-00001313-00001570 giving a required amount of water that
+yyQ8xVculZk-00006-00001571-00001700 you're supposed to drink well it's it's
+yyQ8xVculZk-00007-00001701-00001909 bigger right but a required amount of
+yyQ8xVculZk-00008-00001910-00002087 water that you're supposed to drink
+yyQ8xVculZk-00009-00002088-00002527 I don't track my water that much at
+yyQ8xVculZk-00010-00002528-00002699 least buy it like the fluid ounce or
+yyQ8xVculZk-00011-00002700-00003076 anything but what I found is that if I
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00019-00005367-00005534 going for a pretty intense workout and
+yyQ8xVculZk-00020-00005535-00005738 I'm gonna sweat a lot or if I have to
+yyQ8xVculZk-00021-00005739-00005897 talk in front of a camera or in front of
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00023-00006057-00006406 blow off a lot more of my water and
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00031-00008450-00008785 so if I if I go to the bathroom and I
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00033-00008990-00009178 and it looks like apple juice
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00043-00011718-00011906 can use that as an indication a very
+yyQ8xVculZk-00044-00011907-00012110 real indication of whether or not you're
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00046-00012386-00012560 really working that well is when you're
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00051-00013638-00013969 as much so you're probably gonna have to
+yyQ8xVculZk-00052-00013971-00014276 have a little bit extra water now when
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00055-00014859-00015137 to drink a little bit extra but as long
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00060-00016032-00016226 milligrams of caffeine in there it's
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00063-00016662-00016865 gonna shoot some of that out so you're
+yyQ8xVculZk-00064-00016866-00017042 gonna have to replace it just try to
+yyQ8xVculZk-00065-00017043-00017267 keep that in mind with your your
+yyQ8xVculZk-00066-00017268-00017648 caffeine intake again my rule a pint in
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00072-00019041-00019460 don't know what the foundation is called
+yyQ8xVculZk-00073-00019461-00019733 but the general recommendation these
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00077-00020853-00021407 for women but in general the rule is use
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+yyQ8xVculZk-00079-00021609-00021776 really really thirsty you probably
+yyQ8xVculZk-00080-00021777-00021938 waited too long if you get a little
+yyQ8xVculZk-00081-00021939-00022226 thirsty take care of it right away and
+yyQ8xVculZk-00082-00022227-00022484 you'll stay well hydrated you'll feel
+yyQ8xVculZk-00083-00022485-00022841 good and you won't pee apple juice
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00002-00001303-00001536 hello drywallers and still stud framers
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00003-00001537-00001722 welcome to construction cronies today
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00004-00001723-00001880 I'm gonna be teaching you guys as much
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00005-00001882-00002145 as I possibly can about drawing steel
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00006-00002146-00002258 stud stand-ups
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00007-00002259-00002529 this is video footage that I've taken
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00009-00002740-00002883 have a bunch of extra footage so I
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00015-00003865-00003984 I'll make sure to leave them down below
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00017-00004135-00004209 everybody
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00018-00004210-00004416 Lissa's get this discussion started it's
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00019-00004417-00004617 a good time to ask questions this is a
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00020-00004618-00004794 this is kind of a free good free
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00030-00007027-00007238 opportunity to for me to teach you guys
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00031-00007239-00007437 some really good dry walling techniques
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00032-00007438-00007634 this first segment coming right up I'm
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00033-00007636-00007839 gonna be talking a little bit about how
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00034-00007840-00008025 to secure the first side of the wall
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00039-00008857-00008976 right so listen to my tips
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00040-00008977-00009192 it's very important I'm gonna teach you
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00041-00009193-00009420 guys a lot here so get ready to learn
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00042-00009421-00009627 and grab a pen if you want when
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00043-00009628-00009963 double-dared rolling like this it's
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00044-00009964-00010299 important to get your first side perfect
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00045-00010300-00010584 you want to make sure that you have your
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00046-00010585-00010985 16 centers proper the laser in your seat
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00047-00010986-00011136 so that you can
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00048-00011137-00011499 Center on bevel nice the the centers are
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00049-00011500-00011742 good at the top so when you start
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00052-00012367-00012708 centers or on the bevel right to make
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00054-00013000-00013161 haven't have issues everything will be
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00055-00013162-00013425 locked in but by the time you get to the
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00056-00013426-00013656 other side so if you make this first
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00058-00013849-00014211 time on the second you know okay so you
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00059-00014212-00014487 heard me there make sure to secure the
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00060-00014488-00014643 first side it's really really important
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00061-00014644-00014963 that we laser in all of our sheets not
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00065-00015634-00015869 drywall isn't gonna end you know funny
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00066-00015871-00016125 on the end of the wall in this situation
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00069-00016525-00016689 it's more than 2 feet these are 2 foot
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00072-00017032-00017223 two foot but because this is 16 gauge
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00073-00017224-00017400 steel the owner wanted to go two foot
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00074-00017401-00017589 which is fine it's his job he's paying
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00075-00017590-00017856 what I'm doing here even is um laser I'm
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00076-00017857-00018093 not lazy I'm loving what I'm doing right
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00077-00018094-00018354 here sorry is I'm leveling it with my
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00078-00018355-00018561 four foot level it's just perfectly fine
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00079-00018562-00018869 for doing tops okay the the first bottom
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00080-00018870-00019182 row will be lasered in so you can simply
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00085-00019995-00020193 I can put all bunch of sheets in the
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00087-00020410-00020715 put them on no problem okay so get the
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00088-00020716-00020949 first sheets and lays it in secure what
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00089-00020950-00021264 I do when I'm doing my stand-up so we're
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00090-00021265-00021591 using 12-foot sheets to start I when I
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00093-00022173-00022482 okay I'm gonna go an inch in from either
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00095-00022687-00022953 in from the studs right I'm not going to
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00096-00022954-00023112 screw it in right where the stud is with
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00097-00023113-00023294 us with a screw is it doesn't make any
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00098-00023295-00023410 sense I'm gonna
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00099-00023411-00023581 in a little bit an inch in from each
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00100-00023582-00023860 stud and put a screw in the bottom track
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00101-00023861-00024196 poor screws in the bottom track then
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00102-00024197-00024477 what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go and
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00103-00024478-00024841 secure the studs on centers so if two
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00104-00024842-00025084 foot Center 16-inch Center it doesn't
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00105-00025085-00025123 matter
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00106-00025124-00025435 go up and make sure they're perfectly on
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00108-00025735-00025947 because on when you're staggering your
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00109-00025948-00026272 sheets all right you're gonna have to
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00111-00026602-00026902 for the other bevels in fact when I'm
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00112-00026902-00027157 doing double ear I never screw in the
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00113-00027158-00027448 field screws on the first layer why
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00115-00027776-00028020 bevel for the top layer goes so if I
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00117-00028364-00028620 layer I can't do that now okay but I
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00118-00028622-00028827 will secure the bevel studs in the first
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00119-00028829-00029212 layer every two feet just to every two
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00120-00029213-00029545 feet okay so two four six eight ten and
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00121-00029545-00029737 then twelve the top of twelve of chief
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00122-00029738-00029998 there's a reason for this though when
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00123-00029999-00030235 I'm when you're doing your top layer I'm
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00124-00030236-00030418 gonna do the same thing I'm gonna go two
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00125-00030419-00030754 feet every two feet and I'm gonna be
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00129-00031414-00031669 okay so if that makes sense it doesn't
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00130-00031670-00031876 make sense let me know I'll try it I can
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00131-00031877-00032002 draw you guys a diagram whatever
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00132-00032002-00032230 sometimes it doesn't matter I least if
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00133-00032231-00032377 you have questions then I can actually
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00134-00032377-00032524 go to the field and show you exactly
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00135-00032525-00032773 what I mean in another video all right
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00136-00032774-00033178 so what I do at the very end of the of
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00137-00033179-00033367 the wall when all the sheets are on then
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00138-00033368-00033586 I'll go back in and screw in the rest of
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00139-00033587-00033829 the bevels every I'll go in between the
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00140-00033830-00034048 two foot marks okay so every one foot
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00141-00034049-00034384 I'm screwing it in in the bevel in this
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00142-00034385-00034645 in the fields I'm going knee height
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00143-00034646-00034912 waist height chest height and a reach
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00144-00034913-00035167 okay so I like pretty much every 16
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00145-00035168-00035458 inches in the center of the field okay
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00146-00035459-00035692 every 16 inches in the field
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00147-00035693-00035923 make sure to stagger your joints when
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00148-00035924-00036154 you're doing double layer a
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00149-00036155-00036370 it makes the wall really really strong
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00150-00036371-00036600 and if it's fire-rated then that's code
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00151-00036601-00036895 you can see here I'm working on tops now
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00152-00036896-00037126 this is the bulkhead but when you're
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00153-00037127-00037354 working on a lift it's it's the best
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00154-00037355-00037633 practice to do everything you can in
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00155-00037634-00037984 that area before moving over I did it
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00156-00037985-00038131 with steel and now I'm doing it with the
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00157-00038132-00038326 drywall okay so now I'm gonna I'm gonna
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00158-00038327-00038569 get everything in doing tops is pretty
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00159-00038570-00038896 easy find it a gravy piece what we call
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00160-00038897-00039187 it gravy piece which is like a sheet
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00161-00039188-00039538 with no cut outs in it put that on get
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00162-00039539-00039688 it square get it level whatever you need
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00163-00039689-00039862 to do this is really tough because this
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00164-00039863-00040051 is slope and everything but that's okay
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00165-00040052-00040354 you'll figure it out as you go so once
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00166-00040355-00040552 you get that gravy piece in okay it
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00167-00040553-00040780 could be somewhere off in the wall then
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00168-00040781-00040918 you can start doing your other sheets
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00169-00040919-00041089 because now you have something to take
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00170-00041090-00041314 your measurements off for doing cutouts
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00171-00041315-00041476 like that it's really really easy guys
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00172-00041477-00041701 all you're gonna do is measure over and
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00173-00041702-00041956 can I take all the measurements okay so
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00174-00041957-00042100 that you can cut it out it's all you're
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00175-00042101-00042313 gonna do is transfer that onto the sheet
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00176-00042314-00042574 like I did there and then score it with
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00177-00042575-00042802 your knife and cut it out with your
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00178-00042803-00043096 router doing tops is tricky sometimes
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00179-00043097-00043273 because you've got to figure out now how
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00180-00043274-00043420 am I gonna see like how am I gonna get
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00209-00049276-00049446 okay but you see here all I'm doing is
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00216-00051330-00051455 start getting into these ten foot sheets
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00217-00051457-00051624 like it we are now work with a partner
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00221-00052396-00052683 foot all right and then when you're
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00233-00055414-00055737 gonna get hurt so don't do that and then
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00234-00055738-00055908 boom bottom in it's just like that great
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00235-00055909-00056196 you just you pop it into place and you
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00238-00056662-00056859 why it's nice to have all your sheets
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00242-00057637-00057834 I'm doing my top same thing I screwed up
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00245-00058300-00058551 I'll so I'll tack them in every two feet
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00248-00058951-00059238 want the sheets to get pushed out when
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00250-00059597-00059797 and then you have possibilities of them
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00274-00064777-00065053 you guys get down in the comments in and
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00276-00065249-00065400 there we'd like to know who you are and
+yG9MMZKqo0A-00277-00065401-00065680 who's watching and well I'm here to help
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+yG9MMZKqo0A-00292-00068782-00069028 alright guys to learn more about steel
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00048-00012471-00012683 very much and now let's have our
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00051-00013336-00013638 um this morning afternoon or evening
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00104-00025847-00026158 i uh we i went to visit them
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00106-00026344-00026470 together
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00107-00026472-00026758 of course uh the policies against us by
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00108-00026760-00026895 them also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00109-00026895-00027214 there are not good and although we were
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00110-00027216-00027390 upset by
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00111-00027391-00027646 the checkpoints and the street uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00112-00027647-00027839 petrols and the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00113-00027839-00028190 strict surveillance but we were still
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00114-00028191-00028246 happy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00115-00028247-00028607 to together as a family and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00116-00028608-00028990 to have a good time together then
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00117-00028991-00029335 when after we returned to finland
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00118-00029336-00029711 it was as if a python had destroyed
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00119-00029712-00030055 everything
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00120-00030056-00030423 to be honest i never wanted to be an
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00121-00030424-00030543 activist
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00122-00030544-00030846 i wanted to be a simple person
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00123-00030847-00031135 to spend my uh i spent a simple life
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00124-00031136-00031190 with my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00125-00031191-00031527 simple family uh with a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00126-00031527-00031831 simple joy unfortunately the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00127-00031832-00032127 chinese government's policy toward
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00128-00032127-00032255 regards to not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00129-00032256-00032574 allowed it the chinese government had
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00130-00032575-00032871 taken my parents into constitution camps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00131-00032872-00033262 in 2017 mom first 2018
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00132-00033263-00033439 during the beginning of the year my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00133-00033440-00033615 father i had
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00134-00033616-00033951 to say my parents i had to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00135-00033952-00034255 protect the rights then
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00136-00034256-00034559 then i turned to become an activist
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00137-00034560-00034807 in the beginning i didn't know what to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00138-00034808-00034959 do i told
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00139-00034960-00035167 others that there was a mass uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00140-00035168-00035439 arbitrary detention of us in china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00141-00035440-00035815 but no one actually believed no one saw
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00142-00035816-00036062 such a thing could possibly happen in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00143-00036063-00036279 21st century
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00144-00036280-00036599 so i realized that alone i could
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00145-00036600-00036951 not expose this charity i produced
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00146-00036952-00037087 testimonial videos
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00147-00037088-00037295 and posted them on social media like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00148-00037296-00037430 facebook
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00149-00037431-00037679 and i told other users in diaspora to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00150-00037680-00037783 produce
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00151-00037784-00037967 the same testimonial videos and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00152-00037968-00038295 published them on social media platforms
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00153-00038296-00038623 then i traveled around the world
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00154-00038624-00038855 like saint paul but i'm not comparing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00155-00038856-00038951 myself with
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00156-00038952-00039318 saint paul but then his uh i take model
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00157-00039319-00039430 from him
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00158-00039431-00039774 and met with uh wiggle diaspora
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00159-00039775-00040102 uh chatted with them and uh listened to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00160-00040103-00040174 their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00161-00040175-00040535 tragic stories so sad stories
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00162-00040536-00040815 and i collected testimonial videos and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00163-00040816-00041055 collected information about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00164-00041056-00041318 disappeared families of the universe and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00165-00041319-00041462 diaspora
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00166-00041463-00041839 and shared them as an open source on my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00167-00041840-00042007 website
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00168-00042008-00042262 gradually a baby began to rise and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00169-00042263-00042327 uterus
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00170-00042328-00042639 began to rise to defend their rights
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00171-00042640-00042958 and their rights of their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00172-00042959-00043318 families however the ugurus himself
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00173-00043319-00043639 cannot overcome this difficulty
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00174-00043640-00044030 alone and uh our girls need
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00175-00044031-00044358 the help of the righteous people uh they
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00176-00044359-00044423 need to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00177-00044424-00044758 strengthen uh this challenge uh to be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00178-00044759-00045079 with them uh to hear their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00179-00045080-00045383 tragedy and to help
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00180-00045384-00045695 them spread their voice the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00181-00045696-00045974 wigglers have three veterans don't
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00182-00045975-00046071 afraid then i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00183-00046072-00046407 say wiggle heavens one is hope the other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00184-00046408-00046486 one is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00185-00046487-00046839 voice and the third one is their friends
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00186-00046840-00047167 uh the three uh like the holy trinity
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00187-00047168-00047446 have been the center of twitter movement
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00188-00047447-00047607 so far
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00189-00047608-00048007 we need friends we need good samaritans
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00190-00048008-00048343 uh finally i conclude with my good news
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00191-00048344-00048415 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00192-00048416-00048735 on 24th december 2018
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00193-00048736-00049079 my parents were released on the same day
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00194-00049080-00049407 like a christmas gift and i thank god
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00195-00049408-00049527 for that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00196-00049528-00049879 but however we must remember that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00197-00049880-00050086 possibly millions of users are still in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00198-00050087-00050190 those camps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00199-00050191-00050351 and we don't know what's happening in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00200-00050352-00050599 those camps and they must be released
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00201-00050600-00050911 and the chinese state must change it is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00202-00050912-00051214 uh policy toward uighurs and we're going
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00203-00051215-00051246 to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00204-00051247-00051575 believe this uh human rights freedom and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00205-00051576-00051882 human dignity that's all from me thank
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00206-00051883-00052823 you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00207-00052824-00053015 would you like to share a little bit
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00208-00053016-00053191 about these images
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00209-00053191-00053511 that are up on the screen oh the first
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00210-00053512-00053671 one uh from the left is uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00211-00053672-00054047 meal is my mother uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00212-00054048-00054407 it was i remember it was taken in 2016
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00213-00054408-00054487 when i was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00214-00054488-00054775 traveling to find my homeland my home
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00215-00054776-00054871 city
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00216-00054872-00055126 and the second one was uh taking i don't
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00217-00055127-00055215 know like maybe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00218-00055216-00055503 when i was nine or ten or maybe eleven
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00219-00055504-00055630 uh by then
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00220-00055632-00055959 my mom was studying beijing the third
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00221-00055960-00056103 one was taken when i was in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00222-00056104-00056350 high school if i remember it was taken
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00223-00056351-00056542 in a turpan cottage museum
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00224-00056544-00057166 that's yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00225-00057167-00057430 um thank you so much for sharing you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00226-00057432-00057638 know how it is that you came to be part
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00227-00057639-00057694 of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00228-00057695-00057903 of this cause why you're even um sitting
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00229-00057904-00058087 here with all of us
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00230-00058088-00058350 today it's a really moving and inspiring
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00231-00058351-00058494 story and i'm sure we'll get
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00232-00058495-00058679 chances to hear more about it as the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00233-00058679-00058863 event continues to unfold
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00234-00058864-00059119 um now andre i would like to extend the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00235-00059120-00059287 same opportunity to you would you like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00236-00059288-00059311 to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00237-00059312-00059630 tell us a little bit more about your
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00238-00059632-00059679 work
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00239-00059679-00059926 and how it is that um you came to be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00240-00059927-00060711 involved in this issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00241-00060712-00061047 sorry yes thank you very much uh thank
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00242-00061048-00061119 you very much for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00243-00061120-00061463 invitation to this uh seminar uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00244-00061464-00061750 my story is by far not as interesting as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00245-00061751-00061942 hamurat so i will keep it little bit
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00246-00061944-00062047 shorter
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00247-00062048-00062279 i'm a researcher based at the czech
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00248-00062279-00062471 academy of sciences
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00249-00062472-00062687 my involvement with the sintong issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00250-00062688-00062842 has been since
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00251-00062844-00063263 1999 when i started studying ubur then i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00252-00063264-00063454 started then i went to urumchi to learn
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00253-00063455-00063719 uighur at the cinque university and i've
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00254-00063720-00063823 continued
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00255-00063824-00064071 with my phd and then started working as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00256-00064072-00064199 a researcher
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00257-00064200-00064463 uh on chinese china and xinjiang
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00258-00064464-00064566 politics
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00259-00064567-00064911 and besides that i am trying to do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00260-00064912-00065206 uh also some public work or outreach
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00261-00065207-00065247 work
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00262-00065248-00065575 which is mainly um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00263-00065576-00065911 writing uh articles for more general
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00264-00065912-00065999 platforms
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00265-00066000-00066326 outreach platforms in mostly in czech
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00266-00066327-00066655 or sometimes in english also i do also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00267-00066656-00066799 media commentaries for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00268-00066800-00067247 czech sometimes also international media
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00269-00067248-00067463 i try to do public talks as much as i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00270-00067464-00067655 can in the czech republic and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00271-00067656-00067935 in other countries also et cetera i have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00272-00067936-00068023 worked on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00273-00068024-00068350 uh xinjiang related issues with some
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00274-00068351-00068535 international organizations such as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00275-00068536-00068679 human rights watch
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00276-00068680-00069006 or a radio free asia for example and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00277-00069007-00069294 um yeah now lately i've been working
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00278-00069295-00069535 with the uyghur diaspora in turkey and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00279-00069536-00069759 a little bit in central asia also as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00280-00069760-00069838 well
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00281-00069839-00070326 and uh that's about it briefly from me
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00282-00070327-00070743 all right thank you yeah um i'm sure
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00283-00070744-00070991 more details about some of this work
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00284-00070992-00071062 will
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00285-00071063-00071262 like with hallmark might come out over
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00286-00071263-00071462 the course of our discussion
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00287-00071463-00071879 so um we have a little bit of a sense of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00288-00071880-00072079 an introduction to both of you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00289-00072080-00072326 now but i have a feeling that a lot of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00290-00072327-00072455 our audience members
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00291-00072456-00072799 might need or want a bit more of an
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00292-00072800-00072919 introduction to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00293-00072920-00073159 issue that we're here talking about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00294-00073160-00073382 today right this human rights
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00295-00073383-00073726 crisis for oil goers um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00296-00073727-00074006 homurat mentioned camps in particular
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00297-00074007-00074223 because his parents were taken away
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00298-00074224-00074503 to these extra judicial extra legal
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00299-00074504-00074631 camps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00300-00074632-00074950 um but those are not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00301-00074951-00075206 the full extent of what is happening in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00302-00075207-00075406 the uyghur region right now
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00303-00075407-00075679 so can the two of you give us a broad
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00304-00075680-00075871 level overview
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00305-00075872-00076206 what what is this crisis
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00306-00076207-00076806 what components does it have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00307-00076807-00077231 um andre would you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00308-00077232-00077703 um the the extrajudicial political
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00309-00077704-00077982 education camps as elise mentioned are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00310-00077983-00078119 just i think the most
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00311-00078120-00078462 visible uh part of the problem
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00312-00078463-00078735 which has come out come to the center of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00313-00078736-00078823 attention
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00314-00078824-00079255 since 2016 when the new provincial
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00315-00079256-00079487 uh party secretary chen chen kual has
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00316-00079488-00079703 taken power and gradually
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00317-00079704-00079991 the situation in the region become
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00318-00079992-00080143 became much more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00319-00080144-00080455 uh tightly controlled but i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00320-00080456-00080782 perceived this situation as a result of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00321-00080783-00080815 a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00322-00080816-00081111 decades-long process of the ethnic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00323-00081112-00081311 policy which has been implemented by the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00324-00081312-00081399 chinese communist
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00325-00081400-00081887 party for decades uh even prior
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00326-00081888-00082294 1949 and uh basically the situation
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00327-00082295-00082703 involves uh all aspects of uighur life
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00328-00082704-00083023 besides over a million people being
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00329-00083024-00083079 taken
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00330-00083080-00083387 for various types of political
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00331-00083388-00083791 re-education and imprisonment
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00332-00083792-00084038 involving regular prison sentences i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00333-00084039-00084111 mean
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00334-00084112-00084399 quote unquote regular because that's a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00335-00084400-00084615 complex debate what's what's regular
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00336-00084616-00084894 what's legal in a in the condition of a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00337-00084895-00085247 socialist uh legal system shahruej fajr
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00338-00085248-00085367 so to say
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00339-00085368-00085655 so um the policies have been also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00340-00085656-00085735 impacting
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00341-00085736-00086071 uh family affairs uh the um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00342-00086072-00086399 arrangement of households their birth
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00343-00086400-00086487 policies
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00344-00086488-00086823 etc um basically
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00345-00086824-00087182 the the impact is enormous it involves
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00346-00087183-00087647 all spheres of uyghur lives
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00347-00087648-00088006 just shortly i please feel free to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00348-00088007-00088399 pick up from here elisa or hamurat
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00349-00088400-00088759 would you add anything to that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00350-00088760-00089182 oh maybe just uh well
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00351-00089183-00089479 what this operation uh i would say like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00352-00089480-00089582 it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00353-00089583-00089935 been since uh chinese communist regime
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00354-00089936-00089975 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00355-00089976-00090462 start to rule over china and start
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00356-00090463-00090782 governing you know wiki region so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00357-00090783-00091006 and this discriminatory policy is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00358-00091007-00091094 getting worse
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00359-00091095-00091431 after so it a collapse of the soviet
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00360-00091432-00091582 union because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00361-00091583-00091950 china started to see that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00362-00091951-00092191 possibility for the wiggly independence
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00363-00092192-00092359 may be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00364-00092360-00092694 more likely than before because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00365-00092695-00093023 uh the other the central asian republics
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00366-00093024-00093255 have been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00367-00093256-00093471 get their independence like kazakhs and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00368-00093472-00093615 kirkus and uzbeks are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00369-00093616-00093879 the people who've been you know living
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00370-00093880-00094087 with ubers and the historic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00371-00094088-00094359 have a historic uh relationship is each
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00372-00094360-00094535 other maybe historic growth to each
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00373-00094536-00094694 other as well
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00374-00094695-00094999 so chinese alternative may be afraid one
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00375-00095000-00095038 day
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00376-00095039-00095311 uh this will you know have a great
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00377-00095312-00095487 impact for the uyghur
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00378-00095488-00095831 national identity uh then it will one
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00379-00095832-00095959 day lead to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00380-00095960-00096279 regards demand uh greater autonomy for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00381-00096280-00096343 example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00382-00096344-00096647 uh maybe independence so this start to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00383-00096648-00096718 afraid
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00384-00096719-00097103 and uh since then as i started i'm not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00385-00097104-00097423 researching on this but i since and like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00386-00097424-00097662 i believe that the china start
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00387-00097663-00097862 you know the more insecure in the eagle
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00388-00097863-00097967 region
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00389-00097968-00098199 xinjiang we go to this region so i think
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00390-00098200-00098359 that's one of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00391-00098360-00098679 uh main uh shifting point
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00392-00098680-00098943 uh the collapse of soviet union the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00393-00098944-00098999 chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00394-00099000-00099311 uh authorities uh you know the untrust
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00395-00099312-00099415 onto eagles like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00396-00099416-00099750 lack of trust to the legal population it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00397-00099751-00100126 calls it more untrust uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00398-00100127-00100294 among the eager population to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00399-00100295-00100543 chinese government so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00400-00100544-00100967 it's like a bad circle
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00401-00100968-00101174 it continued i don't know if this word
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00402-00101175-00101287 is correct
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00403-00101288-00101535 yeah yeah yeah a circle a vicious cycle
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00404-00101536-00101599 or a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00405-00101600-00101862 vicious cycle yeah or a self-fulfilling
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00406-00101863-00101935 prophecy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00407-00101936-00102303 right yeah create a problem you say
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00408-00102304-00102406 you're trying to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00409-00102407-00102678 avoid yeah so i'm hearing both you and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00410-00102679-00102742 andre
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00411-00102743-00103102 say um this goes back
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00412-00103103-00103454 decades right what's happening is not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00413-00103455-00103790 something totally new necessarily i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00414-00103791-00103902 would add to it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00415-00103903-00104023 you know in addition to the things
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00416-00104024-00104206 you've heard about like camps and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00417-00104207-00104415 uh so there's mass detention mass
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00418-00104416-00104558 internment in camps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00419-00104559-00104751 there's mass imprisonment in the prison
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00420-00104752-00104951 system happening alongside it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00421-00104952-00105175 a totalitarian surveillance system
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00422-00105176-00105375 including technological surveillance and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00423-00105376-00105527 human surveillance
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00424-00105528-00105775 you heard a little bit about forced
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00425-00105776-00105923 birth control
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00426-00105924-00106207 sterilization there's also a massive
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00427-00106208-00106263 forced
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00428-00106264-00106527 labor system that oilers are being put
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00429-00106528-00106751 into so sometimes that's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00430-00106752-00106958 from a camp into forced labor or just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00431-00106959-00107102 into forced labor
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00432-00107103-00107295 or it's connected to prison it's truly
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00433-00107296-00107615 staggering and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00434-00107616-00107927 these things are all connected to older
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00435-00107928-00108110 phenomena
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00436-00108111-00108431 right through recent decades
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00437-00108432-00108815 but why now why has this come to a head
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00438-00108816-00109095 since 2016 or 2017
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00439-00109096-00110247 what's your take on why now
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00440-00110248-00110423 would you like to go for it andre take a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00441-00110424-00110663 stab at it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00442-00110664-00111047 i think uh it's it's hard to hard to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00443-00111048-00111415 uh see within the um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00444-00111416-00111702 black box of chinese elite politics but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00445-00111703-00111871 i think it's a combination of several
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00446-00111872-00112127 aspects i think a major aspect is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00447-00112128-00112527 generally the changing nature of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00448-00112528-00112919 of um of chinese of the society in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00449-00112920-00113007 xinjiang and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00450-00113008-00113358 also in the in in whole china because i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00451-00113359-00113463 think
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00452-00113464-00113743 during the situation period uh since
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00453-00113744-00113854 2012
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00454-00113855-00114183 uh the party has uh the been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00455-00114183-00114423 forced to deal with the growing number
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00456-00114424-00114686 of challenges uh both domestically and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00457-00114688-00114966 internationally so it's been having much
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00458-00114967-00114999 more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00459-00115000-00115239 difficulties to rule that's why it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00460-00115240-00115375 more and more motivated
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00461-00115376-00115790 to uh invent either new methods such as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00462-00115791-00116127 you mentioned technological surveillance
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00463-00116128-00116166 or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00464-00116167-00116471 cyber leninist techniques of rule or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00465-00116472-00116590 even to revive
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00466-00116591-00117134 some old totalitarian methods that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00467-00117135-00117447 the world basically thought were
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00468-00117448-00117815 long over such as the mass detention in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00469-00117816-00118031 political reeducation camps that we knew
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00470-00118032-00118286 from maui china or from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00471-00118288-00118695 from nazi germany for example so i think
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00472-00118696-00118895 this is one major reason
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00473-00118896-00119110 i think the leadership was also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00474-00119111-00119207 motivated
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00475-00119208-00119647 uh by the protracted nature of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00476-00119648-00119863 situation in china in sinjang and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00477-00119864-00119951 decided
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00478-00119952-00120614 to deal with it with force basically
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00479-00120615-00120831 interesting i think there are some great
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00480-00120832-00121095 observations there
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00481-00121096-00121399 uh i think it has maybe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00482-00121400-00121783 three uh reasons one is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00483-00121783-00122110 uh you know like uh china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00484-00122111-00122358 you know took the bus of uh war on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00485-00122359-00122463 terror like uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00486-00122464-00122799 since uh this uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00487-00122800-00123023 bush administration uh start the war
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00488-00123024-00123239 against terrorism the china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00489-00123240-00123543 changed his discourse and their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00490-00123544-00123863 language and they start to call before
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00491-00123864-00124175 that they call uighurs as a separatist
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00492-00124176-00124423 then they start to adopt this new term
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00493-00124424-00124590 on new terminology
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00494-00124591-00124823 the terrorists for the benefit of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00495-00124824-00124951 audience could you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00496-00124952-00125102 sorry to interrupt for the benefit of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00497-00125103-00125351 the audience you say roughly what
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00498-00125352-00125534 year it was when they started when it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00499-00125535-00125695 was like 2001
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00500-00125696-00126054 i believe like since this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00501-00126055-00126366 terrorist attack in a double tower in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00502-00126367-00126702 usa then uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00503-00126703-00127014 then uh you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00504-00127015-00127510 after this iraq war there is a new uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00505-00127511-00127758 islamic caliphate started and china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00506-00127759-00127871 tried to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00507-00127872-00128119 demonize us and before that you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00508-00128120-00128247 there was 2009
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00509-00128248-00128575 there's a big a peaceful
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00510-00128576-00128990 demonstration was arranged by the uyghur
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00511-00128991-00129134 students in the beginning but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00512-00129135-00129399 it became a riot after the chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00513-00129400-00129486 police
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00514-00129488-00129990 uh like outside uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00515-00129991-00130223 uh i would say that try to stop it from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00516-00130224-00130399 happening then after it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00517-00130400-00130814 started the like the uranji massacre
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00518-00130815-00131039 turned into the massacre in late and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00519-00131040-00131127 then uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00520-00131128-00131414 many ugurs lost their life and many
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00521-00131415-00131487 uighurs
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00522-00131488-00131799 lost their family members then
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00523-00131800-00132127 china need to maybe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00524-00132128-00132478 try some reason to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00525-00132479-00132831 how to say mutualize those people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00526-00132832-00133023 could be possible threat for them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00527-00133024-00133207 because china unjustly
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00528-00133208-00133390 treated those people i would believe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00529-00133391-00133727 like china overreacted to many things
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00530-00133728-00134087 so and uh after xi jinping came into
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00531-00134088-00134143 power
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00532-00134144-00134383 and china already held this economic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00533-00134384-00134735 power and the diplomatic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00534-00134736-00135095 statue international uh power diplomatic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00535-00135096-00135327 good diplomatic relationship as well and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00536-00135328-00135543 how more confidence to do something like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00537-00135544-00135654 this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00538-00135655-00136095 so he you know transferred uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00539-00136096-00136423 chinchingle was the party uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00540-00136424-00136814 secretary of tibet from there to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00541-00136815-00137127 uyghur region 2016
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00542-00137128-00137463 then initiated this so-called
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00543-00137464-00137814 uh radication camps or the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00544-00137815-00138047 internment camp policies but i believe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00545-00138048-00138231 it is concentration camps because what's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00546-00138232-00138439 happening there
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00547-00138440-00138678 make us recall the nazi-style
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00548-00138679-00138871 concentration camps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00549-00138872-00139287 but mazis use that measurements to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00550-00139288-00139599 eliminate genocide
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00551-00139600-00139943 european jewish people thank you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00552-00139944-00140335 i think it's the scholar ryan thumb
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00553-00140336-00140654 um has was quoted in a news article
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00554-00140655-00141063 by buzzfeed um making the observation
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00555-00141064-00141247 that what is happening
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00556-00141248-00141566 combines the worst elements of what we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00557-00141567-00141727 saw with genocides
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00558-00141728-00142071 in north america apartheid
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00559-00142072-00142399 in south africa the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00560-00142400-00142671 mass internment of nazi germany and then
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00561-00142672-00142783 also the police
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00562-00142784-00143102 state of north korea so we're seeing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00563-00143103-00143335 like a convergence of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00564-00143336-00143535 some of the most horrible atrocities we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00565-00143536-00143639 know from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00566-00143640-00143831 the course of the 20th century kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00567-00143832-00143951 all in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00568-00143952-00144287 all in one place all in one context
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00569-00144288-00144871 um scholars and experts over the last
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00570-00144872-00145190 year or so have started really coming
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00571-00145191-00145335 out on the record
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00572-00145336-00145663 and saying that um what china is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00573-00145664-00145999 doing amounts to crimes against humanity
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00574-00146000-00146319 and also likely meets um the criteria
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00575-00146320-00146375 for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00576-00146376-00146590 genocide right and that this is legal
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00577-00146591-00146743 experts who have come out and said
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00578-00146744-00147143 things like this um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00579-00147144-00147487 so broadly speaking how have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00580-00147488-00147775 members of the international community
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00581-00147776-00147911 responded to these
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00582-00147912-00148247 atrocities um i know that's a really big
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00583-00148248-00148407 place to start so maybe i can kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00584-00148408-00148623 hone it down a little bit
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00585-00148624-00148926 many people have um put faith
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00586-00148927-00149190 in muslim the governments of muslim
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00587-00149191-00149319 majority countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00588-00149320-00149590 around the world to take action on this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00589-00149591-00149663 crisis
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00590-00149664-00149966 um what has their response been by and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00591-00149967-00150559 large
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00592-00150560-00150847 i see you yeah yeah maybe i can say just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00593-00150848-00151087 a couple of words like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00594-00151088-00151311 rather upsetting weaker people for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00595-00151312-00151583 example the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00596-00151584-00151766 prime minister or president of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00597-00151767-00152111 pakistan the embankment
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00598-00152112-00152302 when the british journalists or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00599-00152303-00152478 australians if i'm forget
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00600-00152479-00152839 i'm sorry like if i made this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00601-00152840-00153071 wrong like ask him like do you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00602-00153072-00153271 about this atrocity
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00603-00153272-00153502 or the the things that happen to your
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00604-00153503-00153895 people it's right next to pakistan
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00605-00153896-00154102 pakistan is one of the country have a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00606-00154103-00154311 historic relationship with other people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00607-00154312-00154495 so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00608-00154496-00154726 it's uh the neighbor of the we grow from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00609-00154727-00154895 this region
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00610-00154896-00155190 then he says he never heard about it or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00611-00155191-00155247 he don't
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00612-00155248-00155719 know and this uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00613-00155720-00156007 other muslim majority countries leaders
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00614-00156008-00156047 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00615-00156048-00156423 their reaction to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00616-00156424-00156726 this atrocity or this china's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00617-00156727-00156975 genocidal policy i'm sorry like if i say
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00618-00156976-00157175 this because i'm an actor it's not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00619-00157176-00157471 not the expert on this uh maybe i'm
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00620-00157472-00157599 speaking sometimes
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00621-00157600-00157990 with ugly sentiments so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00622-00157991-00158423 they are not really reacting um and uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00623-00158424-00158631 they're standing even with china for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00624-00158632-00158799 example bin salman
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00625-00158800-00159031 was at the same time committing a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00626-00159032-00159239 massacre in yemen
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00627-00159240-00159495 uh jose is like what chinese government
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00628-00159496-00159575 doing is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00629-00159576-00159863 right and he actually supported xi
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00630-00159864-00160039 jinping's measurement
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00631-00160040-00160383 on the uyghurs
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00632-00160384-00160678 here i want to add something like when
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00633-00160679-00160766 we talk about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00634-00160767-00161031 uighurs western media or all over the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00635-00161032-00161095 world
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00636-00161096-00161423 different medias like to use the term uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00637-00161424-00161743 uguru muslims but we girls are a modern
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00638-00161744-00161999 nation we are not you know the small
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00639-00162000-00162143 group of people when we are talking
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00640-00162144-00162295 about ugurus
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00641-00162296-00162599 11 million to maybe 20 million
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00642-00162600-00162807 people we have many different peoples
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00643-00162808-00162983 like the sub uh groups
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00644-00162984-00163302 you know like christian minorities and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00645-00163303-00163607 others so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00646-00163608-00163887 so when people using this terminology
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00647-00163888-00164111 it's kind of pushing us only
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00648-00164112-00164438 to this uh muslim people and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00649-00164439-00164687 or muslim groups or the nations say oh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00650-00164688-00164911 this is your problem you sold this or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00651-00164912-00165007 you you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00652-00165008-00165238 you need to take care of them and that's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00653-00165239-00165478 kind of upsetting us
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00654-00165479-00165847 and uh ugh muslimness is over
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00655-00165848-00166151 uh represented to the problem
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00656-00166152-00166343 because it's not only religious freedom
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00657-00166344-00166471 problem it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00658-00166472-00166775 more there are more other layers of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00659-00166776-00166887 problem
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00660-00166888-00167126 for example i wouldn't call my parents
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00661-00167127-00167302 like mortal muslims because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00662-00167303-00167607 my father is more like agnostic my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00663-00167608-00167847 mother is from a secular family i never
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00664-00167848-00167911 saw them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00665-00167912-00168223 to you know practice any religion and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00666-00168224-00168487 my family is a multi-religious family we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00667-00168488-00168631 have christian relations
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00668-00168632-00168878 in my family and they're also being sent
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00669-00168879-00169071 to concentration camps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00670-00169072-00169414 so yeah i mean like yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00671-00169415-00169654 it's the uyghurs are muslim majority
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00672-00169655-00169719 nation and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00673-00169720-00169983 yes those muslims muslim countries for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00674-00169984-00170111 example are duan and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00675-00170112-00170351 others they are trying to create image
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00676-00170352-00170447 of the or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00677-00170448-00170823 uh savior of the muslims or muslim
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00678-00170824-00171190 but that ripped their hippocratic face
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00679-00171191-00171502 lower mask so maybe that is uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00680-00171503-00171847 being used among eagle cows or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00681-00171848-00172151 the eager applied maybe being used for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00682-00172152-00172502 ripping out hippocratic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00683-00172503-00172895 mosque but at the same
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00684-00172896-00173223 time the real uh problem of twitter
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00685-00173224-00173271 people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00686-00173272-00173454 and the real face of two year people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00687-00173455-00173623 that's it thank you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00688-00173624-00173895 thank you that's i was really insightful
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00689-00173896-00174038 right
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00690-00174039-00174254 if i would sum up what i was hearing you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00691-00174255-00174359 say it's that you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00692-00174360-00174687 maybe it's a little problematic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00693-00174688-00174983 to think that we should just be putting
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00694-00174984-00175183 all of our hope in the muslim world and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00695-00175184-00175207 the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00696-00175208-00175383 muslim world alone right because it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00697-00175384-00175663 not just a problem of religion
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00698-00175664-00175943 yeah it's not muslim it's not muslim
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00699-00175944-00176023 problem it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00700-00176024-00176287 problem of humanity because once uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00701-00176288-00176447 before like it happened and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00702-00176448-00176790 we had this promise like never again but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00703-00176791-00177014 most likely it is happening uh i don't
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00704-00177015-00177199 want to be a dogmatic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00705-00177200-00177583 but according to this geneva genocide uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00706-00177584-00177831 conventions uh definition
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00707-00177832-00178078 what's happening to igurus are can be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00708-00178079-00178302 defined as a genocide so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00709-00178303-00178607 we should never allow that happen and of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00710-00178608-00178735 course the similar things
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00711-00178736-00178902 are happening in myanmar and other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00712-00178903-00179263 places for example yemen
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00713-00179264-00179566 yeah so i really hope like we put uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00714-00179567-00179687 human rights
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00715-00179688-00180023 and democracy uh you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00716-00180024-00180351 more important positions in our
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00717-00180352-00180735 diplomacy with china or other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00718-00180736-00180911 thank countries thank you andre do you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00719-00180912-00181119 have anything else to add
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00720-00181120-00181359 yes i would like to elaborate on the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00721-00181360-00181487 response of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00722-00181488-00181790 muslim majority countries another
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00723-00181791-00182063 majorly important country which is egypt
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00724-00182064-00182295 has also supported china on its ethnic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00725-00182296-00182463 policy and in fact has
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00726-00182464-00182702 cooperated with chinese authorities in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00727-00182703-00182902 deporting wiggles and harassing the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00728-00182903-00183038 community
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00729-00183039-00183423 uh in uh 2017 and another
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00730-00183424-00183726 uh massively important uh muslim
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00731-00183727-00183838 majority country
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00732-00183839-00184151 turkey has limited itself to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00733-00184152-00184495 uh more or less uh ritualistic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00734-00184496-00184799 uh of rare
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00735-00184800-00185087 uh criticisms of china's treatment of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00736-00185088-00185311 uyghurs which uh however
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00737-00185312-00185663 turkey has not followed uh upon with any
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00738-00185664-00185799 substantial
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00739-00185800-00186102 uh support of the uyghur uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00740-00186103-00186431 community in turkey or vis-a-vis china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00741-00186432-00186790 lately so the situation
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00742-00186791-00186999 the response from muslim majority
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00743-00187000-00187199 countries is close to zero i think the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00744-00187200-00187319 only country which
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00745-00187320-00187647 has supported them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00746-00187648-00187959 also along turkey is qatar
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00747-00187960-00188335 in uh summer of 2019 and so far
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00748-00188336-00188614 so far meaningful initiatives have come
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00749-00188615-00188719 from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00750-00188720-00189023 uh the u.s authorities or other other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00751-00189024-00189207 democratic countries such as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00752-00189208-00189519 recently subcommittee of canadian
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00753-00189520-00189919 parliament has declared the situation in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00754-00189920-00190399 genocide and crimes of humanity
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00755-00190400-00190638 okay so you invoked the place i was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00756-00190639-00190838 gonna go next which was the response of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00757-00190839-00191047 liberal democracies would you care to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00758-00191048-00191126 elaborate
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00759-00191127-00191350 a little bit more on what the response
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00760-00191351-00191447 has been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00761-00191448-00191687 you already mentioned the us and canada
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00762-00191688-00191847 maybe you could bring up um some
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00763-00191848-00191975 specific things
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00764-00191976-00192326 in the us and or other action elsewhere
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00765-00192327-00192814 um i think i think uh speaking about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00766-00192815-00193071 speaking as an outsider here elise maybe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00767-00193072-00193199 this is something that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00768-00193200-00193463 you could address if you'd be willing to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00769-00193464-00193599 because i think
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00770-00193600-00193854 you might be more familiar with the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00771-00193855-00194095 situation in the united states
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00772-00194096-00194407 than than myself who i'm i'm as i'm
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00773-00194408-00194495 saying i'm an
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00774-00194496-00194807 outside observer
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00775-00194808-00195087 well um first let me give khalmarat a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00776-00195088-00195199 chance
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00777-00195200-00195431 to respond with his understanding of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00778-00195432-00195599 what the us has done and then i'd i'd be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00779-00195600-00195775 happy to uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00780-00195776-00196071 flesh out a little bit as a us citizen
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00781-00196072-00196135 yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00782-00196136-00196463 okay well uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00783-00196464-00196871 well i'm i would say like the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00784-00196872-00197071 trump administ during the time of trump
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00785-00197072-00197190 administration uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00786-00197191-00197543 uighur issue was uh taken to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00787-00197544-00197790 the level that never been to that high
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00788-00197791-00198031 in a u.s policy like there was a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00789-00198032-00198359 legal human rights act bill was uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00790-00198360-00198750 signed by uh president trump
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00791-00198751-00199054 and uh now there is another
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00792-00199055-00199407 bill about forced labors
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00793-00199408-00199726 used by chinese factories or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00794-00199727-00200175 on its way to being signed in the usa
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00795-00200176-00200511 uh as an european and as an lives in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00796-00200512-00200583 europe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00797-00200584-00200902 uh because during the trump
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00798-00200903-00200999 administration
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00799-00201000-00201263 uh time uh the transatlantic
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00800-00201264-00201487 relationship was not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00801-00201488-00201799 i mean like not not as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00802-00201800-00202135 tight as i expected so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00803-00202136-00202431 we had the kind of bit difficulties here
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00804-00202432-00202654 to try to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00805-00202655-00202983 explain or educate what is happening to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00806-00202984-00203135 the uber people because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00807-00203136-00203471 some people have a bias that what is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00808-00203472-00203671 happening to the igor people may be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00809-00203672-00203966 exaggerated by the us media because of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00810-00203967-00204190 it is uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00811-00204191-00204495 you know the jade war against china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00812-00204496-00204838 but it's not you know the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00813-00204839-00205238 uh it's not true uh there are many users
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00814-00205239-00205286 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00815-00205287-00205582 criticizing even american policies
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00816-00205583-00205638 towards
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00817-00205639-00206055 some issues but i still like uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00818-00206056-00206351 i mean like we are very still thanks for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00819-00206352-00206382 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00820-00206383-00206694 for the usa uh america to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00821-00206696-00207079 stand up for us and i i believe like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00822-00207080-00207446 usa can do even more for example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00823-00207448-00208023 uh training with your activists and uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00824-00208023-00208294 not only the financially uh helping
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00825-00208296-00208471 movers but also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00826-00208471-00208806 you know using it is a global uh the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00827-00208807-00209134 diplomatic uh power or relationship
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00828-00209135-00209366 to let other countries know more about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00829-00209367-00209606 liberal issues
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00830-00209607-00210006 uh yeah hey that's that's all
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00831-00210007-00210358 uh my fight yeah thank you thanks
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00832-00210359-00210671 no um just for the benefit of anyone
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00833-00210671-00210839 listening yeah i would add to it that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00834-00210840-00210871 the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00835-00210871-00211191 this particular bill that became law
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00836-00211192-00211487 so now the uyghur human rights policy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00837-00211488-00211679 act of 2020 became
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00838-00211680-00211903 the law of the land in the united states
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00839-00211904-00212039 in june
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00840-00212040-00212334 of this year i believe it was it passed
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00841-00212335-00212446 with a near
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00842-00212448-00212815 uh unanimous vote in the congress
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00843-00212816-00213046 and then went to the president to be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00844-00213048-00213206 signed and it calls for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00845-00213207-00213542 um putting sanctions on individuals who
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00846-00213544-00213734 are responsible for perpetrating these
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00847-00213735-00213791 crimes
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00848-00213792-00214071 so the u.s has actually put sanctions on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00849-00214071-00214167 several
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00850-00214167-00214375 you know high-ranking officials who are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00851-00214376-00214510 responsible
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00852-00214511-00214791 for what's happening um there are also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00853-00214792-00215023 reporting requirements and so forth and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00854-00215023-00215103 as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00855-00215104-00215358 the audience already heard the uyghur
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00856-00215359-00215415 forced
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00857-00215416-00215751 labor prevention act is also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00858-00215752-00216087 in the process of going through congress
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00859-00216088-00216215 and you know the whole process
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00860-00216216-00216463 that a bill goes through in congress i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00861-00216464-00216615 mean in addition to that yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00862-00216616-00216927 across the whole of the u.s government
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00863-00216928-00217231 there are a lot of different departments
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00864-00217232-00217382 and agencies including the state
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00865-00217383-00217631 department you know that have been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00866-00217632-00217975 making public statements um on the issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00867-00217976-00218246 in support of you know oil wars and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00868-00218248-00218303 other people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00869-00218304-00218503 suffering these abuses and that's been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00870-00218504-00218734 positive to see and it's been largely
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00871-00218735-00219023 bipartisan which i think is a really
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00872-00219023-00219158 important thing you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00873-00219159-00219406 it feels kind of rare to uh have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00874-00219407-00219494 something
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00875-00219496-00219734 truly bipartisan in u.s politics right
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00876-00219735-00219894 now but the wheeler issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00877-00219896-00220158 the weber crisis has managed um to have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00878-00220159-00220375 that kind of broad support
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00879-00220376-00220806 so um to shift to another question
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00880-00220807-00221039 oh and i want to send a quick reminder
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00881-00221040-00221158 to audience members
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00882-00221159-00221375 um from wherever you're listening
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00883-00221376-00221591 whether it's on facebook or someone else
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00884-00221592-00221791 um you have the ability to send us
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00885-00221792-00222015 questions that you might like to ask the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00886-00222016-00222134 panelists
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00887-00222135-00222398 so in about five to ten minutes we'll be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00888-00222400-00222606 opening this up for your questions and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00889-00222607-00222694 we would love
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00890-00222696-00223015 to hear from you please send us whatever
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00891-00223016-00223223 it is you would like to know about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00892-00223223-00223591 okay now back to the panelists um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00893-00223592-00223927 you know the us and some other countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00894-00223928-00224094 have started to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00895-00224096-00224279 um you know speak up about what's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00896-00224280-00224494 happening and have even criticized
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00897-00224496-00224815 china for its policies in some cases how
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00898-00224816-00224855 has
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00899-00224856-00225391 china responded to that criticism
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00900-00225392-00225846 andre you want to take it first
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00901-00225848-00226279 uh china has basically responded
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00902-00226280-00226598 in a very usual way which is by
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00903-00226600-00226934 denying that something like this is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00904-00226935-00227110 happening that there are problems in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00905-00227111-00227223 xinjiang
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00906-00227223-00227551 they have started by denying the very
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00907-00227552-00227646 existence
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00908-00227648-00227975 of fishing camps since the beginning of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00909-00227976-00228055 the debate
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00910-00228056-00228398 they are only admitted to the existence
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00911-00228400-00228758 in october 2018 under the pressure of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00912-00228759-00228975 evidence and the ensuing discussion
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00913-00228976-00229239 at the un and uh since then they have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00914-00229240-00229279 been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00915-00229280-00229575 vowing to continue the policy to uphold
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00916-00229576-00229655 the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00917-00229656-00229871 direction of policy in xinjiang as we've
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00918-00229871-00230055 seen recently at the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00919-00230056-00230287 uh sint young work forum which was held
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00920-00230288-00230391 in september
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00921-00230392-00230710 of this year so the response
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00922-00230711-00230958 by china is that we are doing everything
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00923-00230959-00231055 correctly
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00924-00231056-00231406 we living a happy and stable life
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00925-00231407-00231791 and everything is okay
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00926-00231792-00232055 and do you think that there are people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00927-00232056-00232734 who believe that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00928-00232735-00232951 i think we lost andrew that's a tough
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00929-00232952-00233055 question
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00930-00233056-00233367 there are certainly people who say and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00931-00233367-00233479 repeat these
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00932-00233480-00233798 things and i think uh some of them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00933-00233800-00234046 probably also believe that as we have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00934-00234048-00234406 seen on the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00935-00234407-00234639 there are people who really believe that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00936-00234640-00234791 i think this is a really
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00937-00234792-00235134 related also to um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00938-00235135-00235398 the particular person's general
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00939-00235400-00235655 political views i think many people are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00940-00235656-00235879 willing to believe that this is a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00941-00235880-00235998 western
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00942-00236000-00236431 um or u.s concocted conspiracy and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00943-00236432-00236615 disinformation campaign
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00944-00236616-00236958 against china so i think yes peop some
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00945-00236959-00237119 people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00946-00237119-00237479 do actually believe this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00947-00237480-00237879 wow interesting i know um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00948-00237880-00238151 that you have taken an interest in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00949-00238152-00238375 disinformation and how that's playing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00950-00238376-00238423 out
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00951-00238423-00238734 in this whole situation um would you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00952-00238735-00238846 have anything to add
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00953-00238848-00239151 in that regard to andre's comments
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00954-00239152-00239446 yeah like uh since uh beginning of this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00955-00239448-00239510 year
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00956-00239511-00239871 or the end of last year there are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00957-00239871-00240271 more videos made on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00958-00240271-00240630 produced more videos denial videos
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00959-00240631-00240975 by western looking chinese people i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00960-00240976-00241127 would say hey because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00961-00241128-00241446 uh or the western looking ccp's i'm
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00962-00241448-00241519 sorry like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00963-00241519-00241910 maybe maybe not just start to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00964-00241911-00242271 uh trying to miss informing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00965-00242271-00242630 people with uh that is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00966-00242631-00242830 what china are doing is actually a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00967-00242831-00242958 measurement against
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00968-00242959-00243279 extremism or the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00969-00243280-00243671 the trying to uh sell this kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00970-00243671-00243879 narrative to the western audience
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00971-00243880-00243991 especially
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00972-00243992-00244303 say compared to attacking the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00973-00244304-00244639 countries who how
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00974-00244640-00245015 or who how this a terrorist risk
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00975-00245016-00245246 what china doing is better that's the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00976-00245248-00245327 narrative
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00977-00245328-00245782 trying to you know let others to believe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00978-00245783-00246134 so i think
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00979-00246135-00246463 i i mean like we need to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00980-00246464-00246951 find more different uh ways to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00981-00246952-00247430 show people that this is not actually
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00982-00247431-00247734 the game of the certain country or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00983-00247735-00248055 my atrocity actually happening
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00984-00248056-00248398 and it's really painful to hear that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00985-00248400-00248719 people denying while those people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00986-00248719-00249015 are suffering because they i know like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00987-00249016-00249119 many uighurs
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00988-00249119-00249367 they lost their family members they lost
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00989-00249367-00249558 contact with their family members for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00990-00249559-00249663 years
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00991-00249664-00249871 and they don't know what is happening to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00992-00249871-00250167 them and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00993-00250167-00250503 all the information that they hear about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00994-00250504-00250806 this concentration camps are so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00995-00250807-00251191 worrying or scary things so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00996-00251192-00251471 and in addition to that they see people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00997-00251471-00251742 denying it makes them more like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00998-00251744-00252006 you know the depressive or i don't know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-00999-00252007-00252158 like more like the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01000-00252159-00252558 topless yes people have a freedom of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01001-00252559-00252742 speech and they can't say anything
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01002-00252744-00253079 but i really hope that people more and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01003-00253080-00253198 more people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01004-00253200-00253479 stand up for users and you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01005-00253480-00253734 emphasize with your voices
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01006-00253735-00253998 so i believe like denial campaign will
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01007-00254000-00254110 go on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01008-00254111-00254367 and we need to emphasize our voices as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01009-00254367-00254423 well
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01010-00254423-00254710 so that's the maybe only thing we can do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01011-00254711-00254903 because we cannot just uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01012-00254904-00255206 mute them or we cannot let them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01013-00255207-00255471 you know don't let them speak they can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01014-00255471-00255519 speak
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01015-00255519-00255855 whatever they want right yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01016-00255856-00256119 thank you for the you know much needed
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01017-00256119-00256223 reminder
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01018-00256223-00256510 right that there are like i think it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01019-00256511-00256663 really easy to forget there are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01020-00256664-00257030 real people whose lives are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01021-00257031-00257319 being destroyed by what's happening and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01022-00257319-00257351 that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01023-00257352-00257630 includes weakers back in the region but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01024-00257631-00257719 also
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01025-00257719-00258039 spoilers on the outside who are taking
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01026-00258040-00258391 a lot of risk sometimes to speak out
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01027-00258392-00258655 um you made reference earlier to your
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01028-00258656-00258703 own
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01029-00258704-00259071 you know video testimonials and so forth
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01030-00259071-00259382 what other kinds of um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01031-00259383-00259694 advocacy and activism have uyghurs
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01032-00259696-00259823 around the world
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01033-00259823-00260071 started to do over the last few years
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01034-00260071-00260182 that might be interesting to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01035-00260183-00260415 audience members to hear about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01036-00260416-00260806 uh i would say like uh 2017 we didn't
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01037-00260807-00260934 have much
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01038-00260935-00261239 thing uh like personally i send maybe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01039-00261240-00261334 hundreds of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01040-00261335-00261606 emails to the different media outlets
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01041-00261607-00261855 nobody actually responded me right then
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01042-00261856-00262110 then the beginning of 2018 we started
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01043-00262111-00262175 this um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01044-00262176-00262527 video testimonial campaigns then uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01045-00262528-00262806 the russian abbas one of twitter
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01046-00262807-00262951 activists she started
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01047-00262952-00263367 uh one voice one step campaign
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01048-00263368-00263599 it was like serial demonstration then i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01049-00263600-00263687 started
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01050-00263688-00263943 uh the freedom tour campaign uh the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01051-00263944-00264134 serial demonstration
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01052-00264135-00264375 uh start from helsinki capital of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01053-00264376-00264463 finland and i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01054-00264464-00264655 traveled almost all western european
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01055-00264656-00264982 countries then it continued to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01056-00264983-00265199 asia and europe i mean like asia and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01057-00265200-00265287 america
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01058-00265288-00265519 i've been to japan and usa as well and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01059-00265520-00265934 they go to meet with different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01060-00265935-00266343 interviews then uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01061-00266344-00266615 how to say the world congress organized
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01062-00266616-00266687 the two big
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01063-00266688-00267030 demonstrations and uh uh once in a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01064-00267031-00267287 in bristol so the other times also in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01065-00267288-00267423 bristol's but uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01066-00267424-00267663 once at the beginning of 2018 after all
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01067-00267664-00267767 if i remember
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01068-00267768-00268063 second time was in uh december on the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01069-00268064-00268239 december october
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01070-00268240-00268447 then the other human rights project
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01071-00268448-00268558 doing uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01072-00268559-00268830 information and more like the house
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01073-00268831-00268967 academic works
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01074-00268968-00269271 or the pre uh how to say the providing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01075-00269272-00269382 us with the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01076-00269383-00269687 more academic uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01077-00269688-00269975 uh document uh how to say the material
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01078-00269976-00270006 so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01079-00270007-00270319 we can you know adopt it then we can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01080-00270320-00270447 even sometimes
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01081-00270448-00270671 just print it out and give it to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01082-00270672-00270815 diplomats or the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01083-00270816-00271230 other politicians or other ngos
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01084-00271231-00271519 uh then we did we did this mito eagle
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01085-00271520-00271582 campaign
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01086-00271583-00272087 uh in the uh february of 2019
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01087-00272088-00272471 uh so all i mean like those are the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01088-00272472-00272727 the campaigns the leaders uh been doing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01089-00272728-00272895 and i think utrecht cannot do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01090-00272896-00273127 much more because all what he can do is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01091-00273128-00273399 like giving informations
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01092-00273400-00273710 and uh speaking out what's happening
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01093-00273711-00274039 to us and to our relatives because we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01094-00274040-00274163 don't have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01095-00274164-00274503 international nominee organizations so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01096-00274504-00274806 so what we have is world your congress
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01097-00274807-00275063 uh euro human rights project or campaign
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01098-00275064-00275175 for uighurs or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01099-00275176-00275399 either american association or do we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01100-00275400-00275558 grade for example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01101-00275559-00275910 i'm maybe i'm maybe only like the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01102-00275911-00276151 uh how to say the one person protest or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01103-00276152-00276327 others like aldrin
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01104-00276328-00276639 uh he is doing the one single person a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01105-00276640-00276719 demonstration
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01106-00276720-00277015 from in the damn square we are trying
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01107-00277016-00277167 our best to let
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01108-00277168-00277558 our voice be here
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01109-00277559-00277830 i really hope like academics or the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01110-00277831-00278063 international nominee organizations
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01111-00278064-00278439 and states like democratic countries who
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01112-00278440-00278743 how these human rights and democracy as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01113-00278744-00278830 their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01114-00278831-00279175 basic principles of their state could uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01115-00279176-00279471 help us uh to put more pressure in china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01116-00279472-00279606 solidarity
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01117-00279607-00279927 uh the chinese authority make a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01118-00279928-00280239 shift on its uber policy uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01119-00280240-00280599 release all the suitors who are being
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01120-00280600-00280815 sent to concentration camps or they've
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01121-00280816-00280951 been unjustly
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01122-00280952-00281299 imprisoned for example and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01123-00281300-00281575 other intellectuals like over four
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01124-00281576-00281806 hundred intellectuals are being
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01125-00281807-00282239 sent sentenced uh or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01126-00282240-00282543 being sent to concentration camps like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01127-00282544-00282782 is a principal of xinjiang medical
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01128-00282783-00282887 university
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01129-00282888-00283215 yeah is being sentenced to dance
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01130-00283216-00283534 that's unbelievable
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01131-00283535-00283879 it really truly is and it's very um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01132-00283880-00284223 it's a very heartbreaking situation for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01133-00284224-00284263 sure
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01134-00284264-00284487 um i think i want to ask one more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01135-00284488-00284727 question and i'll i'll pose it to andre
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01136-00284728-00285015 and then we can go into the audience q a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01137-00285016-00285175 um but i was just thinking as i was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01138-00285176-00285223 hearing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01139-00285224-00285406 hal marat speak about all the things
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01140-00285407-00285543 that we of course have doing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01141-00285544-00285806 have been doing around the world about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01142-00285807-00285903 um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01143-00285904-00286206 the role that um journalists
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01144-00286207-00286382 and the role that the media has played
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01145-00286383-00286519 and helping to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01146-00286520-00286830 sort of amplify you know um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01147-00286831-00287175 this situation um could you comment at
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01148-00287176-00287206 all
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01149-00287207-00287471 about what the media coverage on this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01150-00287472-00287663 issue has been like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01151-00287664-00287967 andre um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01152-00287968-00288263 yeah i think i think the media coverage
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01153-00288264-00288406 has been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01154-00288407-00288727 uh substantial on this issue i mean even
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01155-00288728-00289030 several uh major uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01156-00289031-00289343 global agencies have picked up the story
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01157-00289344-00289687 and uh it's gotten into it's become
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01158-00289688-00289999 a topic of of debate uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01159-00290000-00290247 in the in a global sense to a certain
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01160-00290248-00290391 degree but i think it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01161-00290392-00290799 important uh that the topic uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01162-00290800-00291127 gets keeps getting picked up and keeps
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01163-00291128-00291223 getting
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01164-00291224-00291558 connected to other other aspects of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01165-00291559-00291775 of the china issue because i think these
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01166-00291776-00291943 are very closely linked
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01167-00291944-00292303 and especially in the view of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01168-00292304-00292534 for example covet pandemic or other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01169-00292535-00292671 major global issues
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01170-00292672-00292927 i think it's important to make links
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01171-00292928-00292982 between
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01172-00292983-00293254 these developments and keep uh following
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01173-00293255-00293415 up on this issue because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01174-00293416-00293727 uh the situation in xinjiang
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01175-00293728-00293967 uh of uh uyghurs and other minorities
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01176-00293968-00294199 really is not changing for any better
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01177-00294200-00294399 on the contrary according to latest
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01178-00294400-00294527 research by the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01179-00294528-00294775 australian strategic policy institute
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01180-00294776-00294919 the scope of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01181-00294920-00295127 re-education camps is growing they are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01182-00295128-00295334 becoming more closely integrated with
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01183-00295335-00295406 the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01184-00295407-00295639 factories and the forced labor systems
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01185-00295640-00295734 so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01186-00295735-00295934 the system the the chinese communist
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01187-00295935-00296063 party in a way
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01188-00296064-00296406 is to working uh to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01189-00296407-00296823 to normalize the situation and to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01190-00296824-00297087 convince the world that everything is is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01191-00297088-00297127 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01192-00297128-00297343 the way it should be and it's it's just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01193-00297344-00297495 not true so i think it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01194-00297496-00297719 important that media keep doing their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01195-00297720-00297903 work in on the in this respect
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01196-00297904-00298110 along with academics and state
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01197-00298111-00298295 governments etc i think the synergy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01198-00298296-00298454 between the various
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01199-00298455-00298799 uh let's say professions or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01200-00298800-00299054 uh yeah professions is very very
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01201-00299055-00299271 important in this respect
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01202-00299272-00299575 yeah it takes a village right
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01203-00299576-00299927 to be a little bit cliche i would say it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01204-00299928-00300023 takes a village
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01205-00300024-00300351 um really quickly a follow-up do you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01206-00300352-00300503 know of anyone writing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01207-00300504-00300910 in spanish on this issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01208-00300911-00301295 yes i think we have uh before the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01209-00301296-00301503 before this debate i think all of us
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01210-00301504-00301758 have put together a short list
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01211-00301759-00302063 of of several spanish language materials
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01212-00302064-00302254 which we will be able to share
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01213-00302255-00302551 later with with our um audience yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01214-00302552-00302703 great and i even know uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01215-00302704-00303127 nieves perez a u.s based a washington dc
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01216-00303128-00303263 based reporter
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01217-00303264-00303471 writing in spanish is also writing about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01218-00303472-00303623 it so that might be of interest
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01219-00303624-00303806 um those of you out there in the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01220-00303807-00303967 audience if this is something kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01221-00303968-00304079 new
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01222-00304080-00304230 uh to you or that something you just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01223-00304231-00304406 want to follow up on and learn
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01224-00304407-00304703 more about then um you know there there
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01225-00304704-00304799 is some writing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01226-00304800-00305199 out there okay so um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01227-00305200-00305495 i will turn now to some of the audience
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01228-00305496-00305567 questions
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01229-00305568-00305927 that have come in so the first is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01230-00305928-00306310 from pedro from uruguay who asks
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01231-00306311-00306647 when did this repression begin and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01232-00306648-00307015 has everything worsened with she
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01233-00307016-00307158 so i think you touched on it you both
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01234-00307159-00307310 touched on this a little bit but it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01235-00307311-00307447 might be nice to kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01236-00307448-00307734 revisit it in a more systematic way
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01237-00307735-00308047 maybe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01238-00308048-00308319 if you say this concentration camp when
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01239-00308320-00308471 it started
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01240-00308472-00308758 i would i would say like uh march or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01241-00308759-00308958 april of 2017 and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01242-00308959-00309206 my mom was among very first to have been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01243-00309207-00309367 sent to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01244-00309368-00309687 this consultation camps yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01245-00309688-00310006 by then like it's xi jinping was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01246-00310007-00310310 you know president of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01247-00310311-00310663 china but in chinese they say chairman
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01248-00310664-00310895 i don't know why in the western media
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01249-00310896-00311151 then since when western media
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01250-00311152-00311495 changed the translation of sunni into
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01251-00311496-00311806 president or its chairman she
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01252-00311807-00312134 i think it's a more correct way to say
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01253-00312135-00312734 chairman mao and chairman she
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01254-00312735-00313119 so it's not it's not totally clear from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01255-00313120-00313295 the question that i see because it looks
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01256-00313296-00313495 like pedro did a great job asking
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01257-00313496-00313791 a very succinct question i think he
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01258-00313792-00313863 might mean
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01259-00313864-00314143 the repression that you both mentioned
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01260-00314144-00314310 that has been going on for decades
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01261-00314311-00314695 that precedes this and that leads
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01262-00314696-00314910 up to it um i think maybe more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01263-00314911-00315095 specifically when do you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01264-00315096-00315271 we've already established you both see
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01265-00315272-00315543 that as um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01266-00315544-00315671 you know being connected to what's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01267-00315672-00315879 happening now when do you see that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01268-00315880-00315943 starting
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01269-00315944-00316279 andre
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01270-00316280-00316615 i think it started um i think uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01271-00316616-00316927 what's happening now is is an outcome of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01272-00316928-00317182 the ethnic policy of the chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01273-00317183-00317367 communist party it's uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01274-00317368-00317647 this is the direction that the party has
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01275-00317648-00317823 been working towards since
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01276-00317824-00318134 its inception and since its
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01277-00318135-00318510 uh formal arrival in xinjiang in uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01278-00318511-00318834 fall 201
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01279-00318835-00319271 1949 so there are variations
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01280-00319272-00319671 right now since 2016 we are going
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01281-00319672-00319982 through obviously uh extremification or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01282-00319983-00320230 radicalization of chinese ethnic policy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01283-00320231-00320575 in xinjiang but uh even the more liberal
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01284-00320576-00320671 periods
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01285-00320672-00320967 in the previous decades the general
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01286-00320968-00321047 interest
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01287-00321048-00321303 of the chinese communist party is to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01288-00321304-00321471 assimilate with gurus
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01289-00321472-00321806 to limit their political
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01290-00321807-00322127 cultural rights to curb their identity
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01291-00322128-00322375 etc
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01292-00322376-00322727 okay so all the way back to 1949
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01293-00322728-00323127 you can see some clear connections
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01294-00323128-00323343 or like a trajectory in a broader sense
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01295-00323344-00323519 yes in a broader sense
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01296-00323520-00323734 yes or trajectory even before that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01297-00323735-00323951 because communist policies
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01298-00323952-00324151 they have arrived to xinjiang already in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01299-00324152-00324415 1930s along with the governor shengshou
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01300-00324416-00324567 tsai
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01301-00324568-00324919 so even before that uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01302-00324920-00325406 a recently an um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01303-00325407-00325575 leading uyghur intellectual assad
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01304-00325576-00325767 sulayman has just published a book
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01305-00325768-00326210 in turkey in uyghur which is called 1937
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01306-00326211-00326599 1957 and 2017 which compares
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01307-00326600-00326919 this uh the the trend of severe
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01308-00326920-00327391 attack on identity cell
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01309-00327392-00327654 rules which has happened in these very
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01310-00327655-00327943 periods so there are similar
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01311-00327944-00328278 similarities
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01312-00328279-00328591 among these or in these periods when
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01313-00328592-00328967 when a radical communist ethnic policy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01314-00328968-00328999 was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01315-00329000-00329199 implemented in these years the outcomes
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01316-00329200-00329310 are very similar
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01317-00329311-00329678 the purges of 1937
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01318-00329679-00329975 they ended up with the we go with almost
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01319-00329976-00330158 entire uyghur intelligence
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01320-00330159-00330399 or elite strata being physically
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01321-00330400-00330806 eliminated wiped out
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01322-00330807-00331087 okay thank you for um yeah adding like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01323-00331088-00331230 some historical
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01324-00331231-00331415 perspective to what we've been hearing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01325-00331416-00331575 about today dates
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01326-00331576-00331751 you know are helpful and different time
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01327-00331752-00331951 senses are helpful but it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01328-00331952-00332230 it might be kind of stark or or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01329-00332231-00332423 surprising for people who are new
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01330-00332424-00332719 to this issue do you have anything else
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01331-00332720-00332951 to add i know this kind of picks up on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01332-00332952-00333167 things you were talking about earlier
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01333-00333168-00333327 andre's comments
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01334-00333328-00333615 yeah well thanks for andre's uh wider
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01335-00333616-00333703 you know picture
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01336-00333704-00333982 i was i was just saying like this uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01337-00333983-00334263 concentration camp when it started
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01338-00334264-00334687 well as as much as i know it started
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01339-00334688-00334875 like the march of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01340-00334876-00335278 2017 but uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01341-00335279-00335527 there are there are others have you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01342-00335528-00335582 different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01343-00335583-00335958 arguments they say early 2000 they saw
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01344-00335959-00336334 similar camps in a southern part of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01345-00336335-00336671 xinjiang or east turkestan region
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01346-00336672-00336991 whatever you want to call it so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01347-00336992-00337295 uh i'm not expert on this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01348-00337296-00337678 so personally like uh i was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01349-00337679-00337991 too young to notice all this kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01350-00337992-00338334 policy shifts while i was in xinjiang or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01351-00338335-00338463 turpan
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01352-00338464-00338671 i moved from the region like to southern
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01353-00338672-00338910 surrey to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01354-00338911-00339134 central china and uh graded my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01355-00339135-00339295 university then i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01356-00339296-00339606 study abroad and later you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01357-00339607-00340054 i'm now living in finland so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01358-00340055-00340878 as long as i remember the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01359-00340879-00341119 product of this bilingual language uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01360-00341120-00341439 schools or bilingual education system
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01361-00341440-00341767 it started 2000 maybe but before that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01362-00341768-00342023 they initiated in different schools
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01363-00342024-00342343 so yeah that's all i can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01364-00342344-00342606 recall and all other knowledge i learned
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01365-00342607-00342767 from the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01366-00342768-00343039 other you know the intellectuals book
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01367-00343040-00343127 books like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01368-00343128-00343510 uh about twiggers so yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01369-00343511-00343863 well that's um yeah it's a back to it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01370-00343864-00343958 taking a village
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01371-00343959-00344303 right a convergence and a synergy
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01372-00344304-00344415 between
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01373-00344416-00344606 people you know covering different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01374-00344607-00344847 aspects of this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01375-00344848-00345134 just oh go ahead no i'm i'm just a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01376-00345135-00345351 physician i'm not historian like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01377-00345352-00345639 although i'm but i live abroad so long
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01378-00345640-00345743 and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01379-00345744-00345943 i left from the region i don't know how
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01380-00345944-00346110 many years so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01381-00346111-00346454 like 17 years my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01382-00346455-00346799 connection to the region kind of cut it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01383-00346800-00347134 since this china start to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01384-00347135-00347319 adapt this new measurement to new
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01385-00347320-00347503 policies
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01386-00347504-00347727 all my friends like they refuse to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01387-00347728-00347895 contact me anymore like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01388-00347896-00348110 or they are afraid to contact me because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01389-00348111-00348454 simply because i live abroad
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01390-00348455-00348878 so yeah yeah um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01391-00348879-00349110 i lived just really quickly i'll say i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01392-00349111-00349271 lived in the region
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01393-00349272-00349639 um doing my research and living my life
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01394-00349640-00349947 from the end of 2012 until the middle of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01395-00349948-00350167 2016.
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01396-00350168-00350423 and um you know the surveillance state
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01397-00350424-00350575 was being built up
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01398-00350576-00350871 and people were starting to disappear in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01399-00350872-00351087 2014 and 2015
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01400-00351088-00351463 especially and then early 2016 and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01401-00351464-00351615 a lot of things were happening and when
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01402-00351616-00351823 i look back now
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01403-00351824-00352063 it's very clear that you know the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01404-00352064-00352182 precursors
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01405-00352183-00352495 to what is happening now were kind of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01406-00352496-00352695 coming into place
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01407-00352696-00353039 but at the time it was really impossible
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01408-00353040-00353143 to have a sense
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01409-00353144-00353423 of how it fit together or where it might
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01410-00353424-00353510 go
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01411-00353511-00353703 and it's kind of chilling to think back
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01412-00353704-00353951 on okay we have some other questions
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01413-00353952-00354278 that have come in um one
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01414-00354279-00354534 i see i don't see a name with it that's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01415-00354535-00354695 okay i'll go ahead and ask it is has the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01416-00354696-00354758 un
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01417-00354759-00355815 made any statements about this issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01418-00355816-00356254 it's better you answer this question
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01419-00356255-00356582 you're following this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01420-00356583-00356775 i mean i'm following it to some extent
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01421-00356776-00356991 so the u.n
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01422-00356992-00357310 um the u.n has has taken a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01423-00357311-00357551 a quite complicated approach to this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01424-00357552-00357791 andre would you like to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01425-00357792-00358167 no go ahead i leave the floor to you i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01426-00358168-00358230 would say
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01427-00358231-00358454 oh i agree it's complicated go ahead
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01428-00358455-00358639 well it's complicated and to the best i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01429-00358640-00358710 know i mean
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01430-00358711-00358967 part of one thing to ask is what do we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01431-00358968-00359039 mean by
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01432-00359040-00359343 statement because like the you win as a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01433-00359344-00359391 whole
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01434-00359392-00359654 has made you know no sort of statement
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01435-00359655-00359910 this issue continues to be raised
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01436-00359911-00360206 with special rapporteurs it continues to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01437-00360207-00360334 be raised in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01438-00360335-00360599 all sorts of side events and so forth
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01439-00360600-00360775 across the u.n
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01440-00360776-00361006 people who work in the u.n have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01441-00361007-00361182 expressed
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01442-00361183-00361534 concern to some extent or another
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01443-00361535-00361854 but um as for any sort of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01444-00361855-00362167 formal condemnation or you know formal
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01445-00362168-00362287 statement
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01446-00362288-00362615 um even strongly worded right
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01447-00362616-00362775 questioning what's happening i don't
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01448-00362776-00362903 know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01449-00362904-00363223 of of any such thing that that the u.n
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01450-00363224-00363334 has put out
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01451-00363335-00364006 what about either of you andre or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01452-00364007-00364199 no i'm same thing i'm not aware of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01453-00364200-00364343 anything substantial
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01454-00364344-00364582 uh at the the human rights committees
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01455-00364583-00364791 there is always usually a statement by
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01456-00364792-00364910 several countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01457-00364911-00365127 criticizing china such as the last
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01458-00365128-00365351 session of the human rights
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01459-00365352-00365678 council was a 39 countries criticizing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01460-00365679-00365791 china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01461-00365792-00366182 and a little bit fewer countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01462-00366183-00366406 supporting china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01463-00366407-00366663 the trend generally is for the number of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01464-00366664-00366903 criticizing countries to grow
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01465-00366904-00367223 and for the number of uh sub countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01466-00367224-00367391 supporting china to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01467-00367392-00367710 slightly decrease but uh so far
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01468-00367711-00368095 the un has uh failed to take
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01469-00368096-00368543 a meaningful uh position on this issue
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01470-00368544-00368847 yeah and i and a whistleblower actually
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01471-00368848-00369095 recently came here
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01472-00369096-00369327 claiming that named emma riley a human
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01473-00369328-00369582 rights lawyer who works for the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01474-00369583-00370015 the human rights office claiming that um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01475-00370016-00370167 there have been a lot of internal
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01476-00370168-00370367 problems with the u.n
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01477-00370368-00370639 sort of breaking norms and rules and so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01478-00370640-00370782 forth which
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01479-00370783-00371134 have an um chilling account to look into
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01480-00371135-00371287 if you're interested in looking more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01481-00371288-00371471 into this but yeah it looks like there
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01482-00371472-00371630 are a lot of structural and other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01483-00371631-00371758 challenges
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01484-00371759-00372119 to meaningful action at the u.n
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01485-00372120-00372295 unfortunately yeah basically china is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01486-00372296-00372495 trying to take over
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01487-00372496-00372847 yeah i've been to united nations uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01488-00372848-00373175 three times if i recall correctly
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01489-00373176-00373551 uh but you know uh we only met with the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01490-00373552-00373702 representative of uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01491-00373703-00373871 countries like over 16 different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01492-00373872-00374102 countries like including usa
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01493-00374103-00374471 japan and canada for example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01494-00374472-00374623 we talked to them we're trying to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01495-00374624-00374830 advocate you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01496-00374831-00375158 to could do something but and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01497-00375159-00375543 one of the only uh part of the united
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01498-00375544-00375663 nations i don't know like the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01499-00375664-00375871 special working group is the part of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01500-00375872-00376030 united nation or not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01501-00376031-00376182 they are not funded by the united
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01503-00376472-00376823 i have contacted with them and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01504-00376824-00377087 they are you know the collecting
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01505-00377088-00377167 evidences
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01506-00377168-00377639 or informations about weavers but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01507-00377640-00378030 uh that's all i know like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01508-00378031-00378399 when this uh upr against china was
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01509-00378400-00378671 like last year right i was there and i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01510-00378672-00378806 was you know one of this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01511-00378807-00379063 small advocacy group met with different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01512-00379064-00379110 people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01513-00379111-00379478 different countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01514-00379479-00379734 but nothing really happened actually
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01515-00379735-00379878 well i'm not
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01516-00379879-00380110 well i'm as an activist i think it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01517-00380111-00380182 okay for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01518-00380183-00380567 being passive mistake but uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01519-00380568-00380934 i hope like united nation could do more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01520-00380935-00381287 but it become
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01521-00381288-00381654 uh upsetting yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01522-00381655-00381943 yeah right well that maybe leads really
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01523-00381944-00382023 naturally
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01524-00382024-00382263 into a question that i see that's just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01525-00382264-00382430 come in um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01526-00382431-00382751 which is you know for more action right
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01527-00382752-00383063 how can other states and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01528-00383064-00383302 individuals help this cause and that
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01529-00383303-00383375 comes from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01530-00383376-00383830 um kamila or canada from uruguay
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01531-00383831-00383982 so what can people do what can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01532-00383983-00384647 governments do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01533-00384648-00384991 i mean like for example well if allow me
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01534-00384992-00385191 to speak first then i i believe like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01535-00385192-00385495 angie how more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01536-00385496-00385734 you know the general picture more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01537-00385735-00385830 insightful
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01538-00385831-00386310 opinions as uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01539-00386311-00386519 i hope our countries for example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01540-00386520-00386710 european countries or those countries
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01541-00386711-00386775 who
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01542-00386776-00387063 are hosting uh uighur buyers for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01543-00387064-00387206 communities in their
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01544-00387207-00387567 country could uh help uh uyghurs
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01545-00387568-00387823 live in their own country there's uh for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01546-00387824-00387871 example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01547-00387872-00388191 personal cases like if their related
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01548-00388192-00388415 kids are being
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01549-00388416-00388895 sent to concentration camps they could
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01550-00388896-00389206 to ask a chinese authority like one of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01551-00389207-00389510 our citizens family member for example
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01552-00389511-00389815 disappeared that's uh finnish government
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01553-00389816-00389927 actually helped me
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01554-00389928-00390223 uh did something like this like descend
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01555-00390224-00390295 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01556-00390296-00390591 note or not uh the letter to the chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01557-00390592-00391015 foreign ministry and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01558-00391016-00391367 and he said this can you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01559-00391368-00391687 help us to find out what's happening
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01560-00391688-00392039 to our citizens relatives
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01561-00392040-00392310 immediate relatives who are your
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01562-00392311-00392406 citizens
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01563-00392407-00392767 then chinese authority
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01564-00392768-00393078 responded that with a very uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01565-00393079-00393406 annoying question he says
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01566-00393407-00393695 how right should uh prove that his
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01567-00393696-00393943 parents are his parents
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01568-00393944-00394319 then we can try to help him
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01569-00394320-00394647 but it's i i started university i graded
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01570-00394648-00394727 university
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01571-00394728-00395167 until the university i was in china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01572-00395168-00395471 my parents are their citizens i give
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01573-00395472-00395567 them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01574-00395568-00395943 their passport number everything
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01575-00395944-00396199 i don't believe they cannot find it so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01576-00396200-00396399 anyway it gives pressure to the chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01577-00396400-00396567 authority
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01578-00396568-00396910 and we have uh you know the uyghurs in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01579-00396911-00397063 dai spray in some
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01580-00397064-00397287 countries are not that safe i don't want
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01581-00397288-00397551 to name any country here but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01582-00397552-00397806 for example in some countries some ui
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01583-00397807-00397902 groups are being
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01584-00397903-00398215 uh detained for no reasons to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01585-00398216-00398343 detention
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01586-00398344-00398630 you know the migration camps all those
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01587-00398631-00398863 delivered in that country so many years
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01588-00398864-00399102 like five or six years they should be
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01589-00399103-00399239 granted as a citizen
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01590-00399240-00399439 but yet you don't have this residence
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01591-00399440-00399591 permit
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01592-00399592-00399919 like turkey it's one of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01593-00399920-00400151 largest or dice product community hosted
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01594-00400152-00400287 by turkey
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01595-00400288-00400567 so i really hoped you could do more than
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01596-00400568-00400599 just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01597-00400600-00401039 uh you know the hosting them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01598-00401040-00401358 for example the good
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01599-00401359-00401575 uh residence pyramid could they issue a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01600-00401576-00401719 rasis permit for them
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01601-00401720-00402158 so that could easy their lives
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01602-00402159-00402406 i understand like uh as a one of the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01603-00402407-00402615 developing countries like turkey
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01604-00402616-00402863 and other countries maybe they cannot
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01605-00402864-00403023 really stand up against
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01606-00403024-00403358 china but they could help
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01607-00403359-00403695 who live in their own territory
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01608-00403696-00403895 and the other democratic countries like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01609-00403896-00404102 canada and the europe i hope you can do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01610-00404103-00404158 more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01611-00404159-00404423 sorry it takes too much time it's great
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01612-00404424-00404478 it's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01613-00404479-00404678 it's this is what we're here for this is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01614-00404679-00404854 what the audience is here for andre do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01615-00404855-00404934 you have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01616-00404935-00405167 any suggestions what can um governments
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01617-00405168-00405382 or individuals or maybe organizations
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01618-00405383-00405430 even
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01619-00405431-00406071 do oh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01620-00406072-00406751 i think you're muted
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01621-00406752-00407054 sorry yes no i i don't i think hamura
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01622-00407055-00407182 has said it all pretty much
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01623-00407183-00407510 i think governments have obligation to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01624-00407511-00407719 confront china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01625-00407720-00408002 both on bilateral level and on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01626-00408003-00408287 multilateral or transnational level
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01627-00408288-00408606 confront china ask questions
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01628-00408607-00408863 about xinjiang about hong kong about
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01629-00408864-00408910 other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01630-00408911-00409247 closely related issues because as
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01631-00409248-00409487 i think xinjiang is just one facet of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01632-00409488-00409607 the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01633-00409608-00409887 trend uh china is or the direction the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01634-00409888-00410039 communist party of china has been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01635-00410039-00410166 working
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01636-00410167-00410382 towards i think the governments are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01637-00410383-00410710 obliged to take measures to prevent
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01638-00410712-00411039 uh business uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01639-00411039-00411351 with entities involved in all
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01640-00411352-00411663 forced labor or involved in the chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01641-00411664-00411878 security states for example entities
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01642-00411879-00412022 like huawei
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01643-00412023-00412326 zte etc i think
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01644-00412327-00412703 governments have a responsibility
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01645-00412704-00413039 uh to help with guru diaspora so for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01646-00413039-00413207 example make uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01647-00413208-00413487 immigration policy for uyghurs and other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01648-00413488-00413622 repressed
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01649-00413623-00413974 uh communities in china very smooth
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01650-00413975-00414222 without any barriers so that people can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01651-00414223-00414287 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01652-00414288-00414726 seek asylum in in uh outside of china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01653-00414727-00415007 uh i think they should uh develop
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01654-00415008-00415239 mechanisms to support their uighur
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01655-00415239-00415447 diasporas or uighur
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01656-00415447-00415766 uh refugee seekers and holders uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01657-00415767-00416022 i think government should also support
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01658-00416023-00416095 research
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01659-00416096-00416343 on china and listen to the experts and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01660-00416343-00416526 researchers
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01661-00416527-00416799 yeah thank you so you both you both
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01662-00416800-00416959 mentioned a lot about governments and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01663-00416960-00417110 i'll just jump in and add
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01664-00417112-00417422 i sent um i think it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01665-00417423-00417574 should have gone in the comments already
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01666-00417575-00417726 for those of you watching by facebook
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01667-00417727-00417878 and other streams
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01668-00417879-00418110 um but my organization the uyghur human
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01669-00418112-00418247 rights project
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01670-00418247-00418622 has a page titled what you can do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01671-00418623-00418855 um that spells out some actions you can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01672-00418856-00418934 take
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01673-00418935-00419159 as individuals or maybe even as leaders
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01674-00419160-00419287 of organizations
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01675-00419288-00419527 right because we've gotta gotta start
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01676-00419528-00419751 with awareness raising
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01677-00419752-00420055 and advocacy on the grassroots and you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01678-00420056-00420159 know go from there
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01679-00420160-00420479 right it takes a village so um there are
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01680-00420480-00420591 some campaigns
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01681-00420592-00420966 to end weaker force labor so there's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01682-00420967-00421310 um on this page i sent there is a link
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01683-00421312-00421591 to something you can sign as an
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01684-00421592-00421759 organization if you lead an organization
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01685-00421760-00421903 like a trade union
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01686-00421904-00422255 or an ngo or a faith-based group
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01687-00422256-00422399 you might be interested in that there
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01688-00422400-00422647 are several petitions including one
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01689-00422647-00422847 about forced labor that you could sign
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01690-00422847-00423063 as an individual
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01691-00423064-00423375 you could donate to uhrp or to another
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01692-00423376-00423663 organization another uighur organization
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01693-00423664-00423870 you know that can really use
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01694-00423871-00424103 financial help to continue doing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01695-00424104-00424303 advocacy and research
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01696-00424304-00424470 um there might be volunteer or
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01697-00424471-00424639 internship opportunities
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01698-00424639-00424927 um you can find you know people and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01699-00424928-00425103 organizations to follow
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01700-00425104-00425383 as well via email via social media so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01701-00425384-00425583 that you can stay aware
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01702-00425584-00425759 and then turn around and share sometimes
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01703-00425760-00425927 the simple act of sharing
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01704-00425928-00426191 something is really important because
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01705-00426192-00426359 that's how awareness
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01706-00426360-00426670 grows right um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01707-00426671-00427070 we have a number of other questions
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01708-00427071-00427391 um i think we maybe have time for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01709-00427392-00427631 just about one more unfortunately we're
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01710-00427632-00427751 not going to be able to get through
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01711-00427752-00428095 everything here um but
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01712-00428096-00428439 carlos from uruguay wants to know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01713-00428439-00428727 whether public events like um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01714-00428728-00428887 demonstrations and so forth
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01715-00428888-00429199 have done anything to change china's
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01716-00429200-00429327 position
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01717-00429328-00429535 on what's happening have what kinds of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01718-00429535-00429687 impacts
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01719-00429688-00429975 are public events habit having on china
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01720-00429976-00430566 and its response
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01721-00430567-00430822 as an organizer and participant in such
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01722-00430823-00430910 events
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01723-00430912-00431231 do you have any uh yeah like if i my
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01724-00431232-00431495 personal experience is
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01725-00431496-00431783 of course like we cannot uh change it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01726-00431784-00431847 like this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01727-00431847-00432175 uh in a second but gradually
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01728-00432176-00432375 we can put more pressure on the chinese
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01729-00432376-00432591 authority and at the same time
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01730-00432592-00432918 we can create more awareness and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01731-00432919-00433183 you know in our surrounding areas or in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01732-00433184-00433270 our
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01733-00433271-00433510 social network organizing different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01734-00433512-00433631 events
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01735-00433632-00433918 yeah it helps and at the same time like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01736-00433919-00433959 uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01737-00433960-00434151 in the beginning for example like i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01738-00434152-00434310 mentioned earlier
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01739-00434312-00434510 i sent the hundreds of emails to the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01740-00434512-00434639 different
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01741-00434639-00434870 media outlets they haven't responded me
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01742-00434871-00435007 in the beginning
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01743-00435008-00435318 then then after like i
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01744-00435319-00435535 started all different kind of campaigns
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01745-00435535-00435735 they started noticed and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01746-00435735-00436063 we gradually uh you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01747-00436064-00436391 how to say the how this reputation
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01748-00436392-00436631 then they start to invite us to go to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01749-00436632-00436831 different places for example i've been
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01750-00436832-00436910 invited to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01751-00436912-00437263 16 uh 16 or 17 different universities
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01752-00437264-00437399 give speech
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01753-00437400-00437751 uh about two wingers and uh
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01754-00437752-00438143 being into it over 600 times
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01755-00438143-00438503 so i mean like all this same so far if
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01756-00438504-00438543 we
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01757-00438543-00438855 say like emphasizing our voices we have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01758-00438856-00439166 now like in the beginning only me and a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01759-00439167-00439455 few others are standing up and speaking
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01760-00439456-00439775 about our personal cases and
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01761-00439776-00439991 overall what's happening to your people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01762-00439992-00440103 now there are more
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01763-00440104-00440463 users trying to advocate for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01764-00440464-00440687 their relations and you can emphasize
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01765-00440688-00440783 their voices
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01766-00440784-00441095 or you can help yeah
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01767-00441096-00441655 that's uh all i want to say so
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01768-00441656-00441879 great yeah thank you so i do see one
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01769-00441880-00442031 more question i want to address just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01770-00442032-00442166 really quickly someone from
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01771-00442167-00442599 um what looks like is cescos c-e-s-c-o-s
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01772-00442600-00442943 a think-tank in uruguay asks if um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01773-00442943-00443166 are you i think all of us in contact
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01774-00443167-00443414 with any ngos or think tanks
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01775-00443415-00443751 um inside or outside china that support
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01776-00443752-00443910 this cause and i would say from the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01777-00443912-00444055 perspective of uhrp
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01778-00444056-00444375 yes for sure we are in touch with
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01779-00444376-00444575 um think tanks and all sorts of you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01780-00444576-00444775 other ngos and organizations that do
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01781-00444776-00444951 support this cause broadly speaking
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01782-00444952-00445222 um i imagine andre and khal murat you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01783-00445223-00445327 kind of have
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01784-00445328-00445791 similar experience
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01785-00445792-00446110 yeah truly this is i mean i would just
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01786-00446112-00446375 say that truly this is an international
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01787-00446376-00446463 movement
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01788-00446464-00446814 and an international cause um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01789-00446815-00447070 however i note that it is i'm in
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01790-00447071-00447263 washington dc it is now 11
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01791-00447264-00447591 47 a.m meaning we've already gone a
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01792-00447592-00447687 little bit over
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01793-00447688-00447959 um the time we originally allotted for
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01794-00447960-00448055 this event
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01795-00448056-00448263 um but there were some great questions
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01797-00448480-00448775 and ask our panelists um do either of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01798-00448776-00448943 you have any concluding thoughts
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01799-00448943-00449391 you would like to share homura or andre
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01800-00449392-00449751 uh if i say like i i would repeat the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01801-00449752-00449918 same word like
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01802-00449919-00450391 the holy trinity of
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01803-00450392-00450775 pop and our friends are the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01804-00450776-00451239 center of the uighur movement so far
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01805-00451239-00451422 you can be you know our friend you can
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01806-00451423-00451607 be a good samaritan
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01807-00451608-00451943 to help us so you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01808-00451943-00452263 we need you that's what i want to say to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01809-00452264-00452663 everyone who listened to this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01810-00452664-00452943 yeah i would just add that it's really
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01811-00452943-00453063 important that uh
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01813-00453296-00453566 situation of ugurs because it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01814-00453567-00453751 also displays a variety of other
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01815-00453752-00453870 problems which are
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+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01818-00454184-00454318 important that people
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01819-00454319-00454510 pick this issue up and keep working on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01820-00454512-00454687 it
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01821-00454688-00454943 i think those are excellent notes on
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01822-00454943-00454991 which
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01823-00454992-00455375 to to wrap this discussion up um if
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01824-00455376-00455614 you know you have more questions out
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01825-00455615-00455783 there that you didn't have a chance to
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01826-00455784-00455966 ask by all means you know you can find
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01827-00455967-00456047 our emails
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01828-00456047-00456207 you can find information about all of us
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01829-00456208-00456375 i think very easily
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01830-00456376-00456663 online i know i would be really happy um
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01831-00456664-00456822 to hear from you and discuss with you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01832-00456823-00456870 further
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01833-00456871-00457143 i think calmer and andre would say the
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01834-00457143-00457222 same
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01835-00457223-00457487 um so thank you very much for your time
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01836-00457488-00457591 and your attention
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01837-00457592-00457983 and we hope to you know
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01838-00457984-00458199 continue seeing some of you as a you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01839-00458200-00458351 know part of this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01840-00458352-00458495 this international response in this
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01841-00458496-00458670 international community
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01842-00458671-00459743 thank you
+yMTy6b_ZQYY-01843-00459743-00459952 you
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00000-00000047-00001527 [Applause]
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00001-00001528-00001982 oh good morning everyone
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00002-00001984-00002191 i'm gonna get a sip and we'll be ready
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00003-00002192-00002718 to start
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00004-00002719-00002918 okay
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00005-00002919-00003166 a little dr pepper this morning
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00006-00003167-00003343 and i have
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00007-00003344-00003631 mix it up tickets again and we are on
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00008-00003632-00003935 pack number 14.
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00009-00003936-00004151 i call it pack or package they're just
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00010-00004152-00004502 tickets that were put together randomly
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00011-00004503-00004711 so
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00012-00004712-00005022 random bought tickets hardest ones to
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00013-00005023-00005183 win
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00014-00005184-00005479 i have a two dollar money money money
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00015-00005480-00005686 ticket number 12.
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00016-00005687-00006118 i have a gold rush supreme 10 ticket
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00017-00006119-00006318 number 53
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00018-00006319-00006670 and i have a gold rush limited
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00019-00006672-00006927 ticket number 23.
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00020-00006928-00007214 so let's get started we'll start with
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+ypfEQrcHvtU-00023-00008484-00009071 money my winning numbers are six and ten
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+ypfEQrcHvtU-00033-00010943-00011438 and a nineteen i don't see it
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00034-00011439-00011614 i don't think i'm very lucky on these
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00035-00011615-00011935 tickets how about you
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00036-00011936-00012103 but i try
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00037-00012104-00012238 okay
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00038-00012239-00012535 let's do this gold rush you know i have
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00039-00012536-00012742 to find one of those gold bars one of
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00040-00012743-00012902 these days
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+ypfEQrcHvtU-00065-00021312-00021527 all right nothing there let's check the
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+ypfEQrcHvtU-00075-00023695-00023878 nothing for you
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00076-00023879-00024278 okay let's do the 20 gold rush
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+ypfEQrcHvtU-00112-00036568-00036823 busted today
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00113-00036824-00037046 so gold rush
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00114-00037047-00037287 and money money money we're not lucky
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00115-00037288-00037551 today for us we'll have to try another
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00116-00037552-00037662 day
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00117-00037663-00037902 i hope your ticket's lucky
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00118-00037903-00038071 i don't know what you're playing let me
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00119-00038072-00038287 know in the comment section
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00120-00038288-00038559 i like to buy different tickets but tell
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00121-00038560-00038774 me what's lucky for you
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00122-00038775-00039023 as you can see lately nothing is lucky
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00123-00039024-00039118 for me
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00124-00039119-00039367 see you next time thank you for watching
+ypfEQrcHvtU-00125-00039368-00039668 bye
+ySpyZ_2dYzA-00000-00000123-00001491 [Music]
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+ySpyZ_2dYzA-00003-00003360-00004426 i'm going to open
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+ySpyZ_2dYzA-00016-00015763-00016109 [Music]
+yUVuj5flIE8-00000-00000090-00000335 but first we'll finish off this segment
+yUVuj5flIE8-00001-00000336-00000551 with a look at the two modern methods
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+yUVuj5flIE8-00048-00012011-00012482 needed for such a key Universal constant
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+yWxv6vM2a3y-00002-00003188-00005709 thank you
+yWxv6vM2a3y-00003-00005710-00006054 [Applause]
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+yWxv6vM2a3y-00005-00006936-00007091 oh
+yWxv6vM2a3y-00006-00007092-00008486 everything
+yWxv6vM2a3y-00007-00008487-00008827 [Applause]
+yWxv6vM2a3y-00008-00008828-00010727 good evening
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+yctKpHBguqy-00000-00000185-00000437 hey you know hi everybody its Brian
+yctKpHBguqy-00001-00000438-00000776 again and I am continuing this project
+yctKpHBguqy-00002-00000777-00001066 of interviewing clients who are friends
+yctKpHBguqy-00003-00001067-00001316 people who have had very limited
+yctKpHBguqy-00004-00001317-00001450 experience all the way to people that
+yctKpHBguqy-00005-00001451-00001605 have worked with me for years and I am
+yctKpHBguqy-00006-00001607-00001834 extremely happy and excited to be
+yctKpHBguqy-00007-00001835-00002114 interviewing Seth Green today welcome
+yctKpHBguqy-00008-00002115-00002288 buddy much thanks so much for having me
+yctKpHBguqy-00009-00002289-00002509 it's an honor to be here and you know
+yctKpHBguqy-00010-00002510-00002774 Seth is somebody that you might want to
+yctKpHBguqy-00011-00002775-00003220 know more about anyway he is a strategic
+yctKpHBguqy-00012-00003221-00003524 these words are used a lot people call
+yctKpHBguqy-00013-00003525-00003854 themselves strategic marketers Seth is
+yctKpHBguqy-00014-00003854-00004052 actually a strategic market he actually
+yctKpHBguqy-00015-00004053-00004250 is one he doesn't just use the words and
+yctKpHBguqy-00016-00004251-00004577 has encyclopedic sales and marketing
+yctKpHBguqy-00017-00004578-00004802 knowledge and a very genuine heart so
+yctKpHBguqy-00018-00004803-00004919 he's someone you might want to know more
+yctKpHBguqy-00019-00004920-00005267 about anyway and being that my focus
+yctKpHBguqy-00020-00005268-00005620 right now coming into this whole virus
+yctKpHBguqy-00021-00005621-00005966 situation in the pandemic and forward I
+yctKpHBguqy-00022-00005967-00006215 really wanted to focus on sharp
+yctKpHBguqy-00023-00006216-00006406 entrepreneurial people that have been
+yctKpHBguqy-00024-00006408-00006677 touched by level-5 now Seth how many
+yctKpHBguqy-00025-00006678-00006955 years had you been involved with
+yctKpHBguqy-00026-00006956-00007228 personal and professional development
+yctKpHBguqy-00027-00007229-00007391 you know a self-help all the way to
+yctKpHBguqy-00028-00007392-00007648 business training that type of stuff how
+yctKpHBguqy-00029-00007650-00008048 many years before me 24 before I found
+yctKpHBguqy-00030-00008048-00008428 you okay and what kind of investment in
+yctKpHBguqy-00031-00008429-00008663 developing yourself if you were to
+yctKpHBguqy-00032-00008664-00008891 guesstimate financially over a quarter
+yctKpHBguqy-00033-00008892-00009131 of a century I mean I kind of figured it
+yctKpHBguqy-00034-00009132-00009364 out it's 123 thousand dollars okay
+yctKpHBguqy-00035-00009365-00009491 awesome so you're ahead of the curve on
+yctKpHBguqy-00036-00009492-00009683 that one all right and when it comes to
+yctKpHBguqy-00037-00009684-00010055 the personal stuff right now I just I
+yctKpHBguqy-00038-00010056-00010313 slip this one minute in for me there is
+yctKpHBguqy-00039-00010314-00010567 literally no difference between personal
+yctKpHBguqy-00040-00010568-00010784 and business I've heard for a year a
+yctKpHBguqy-00041-00010785-00010988 long time to realize that yeah and
+yctKpHBguqy-00042-00010989-00011126 people say you got to separate it you
+yctKpHBguqy-00043-00011127-00011369 can't separate it and if you do you
+yctKpHBguqy-00044-00011370-00011614 break yourself in half and either die
+yctKpHBguqy-00045-00011615-00011894 young or you get sick so there is no no
+yctKpHBguqy-00046-00011895-00012062 business and personal but in that area
+yctKpHBguqy-00047-00012063-00012467 like if you were to look at the deepest
+yctKpHBguqy-00048-00012468-00012731 pains that you had the deepest things
+yctKpHBguqy-00049-00012732-00013033 that you most wanted to change would you
+yctKpHBguqy-00050-00013034-00013322 say this is true for you and whatever
+yctKpHBguqy-00051-00013322-00013374 words are
+yctKpHBguqy-00052-00013375-00013563 to for you but this is what I hear Brian
+yctKpHBguqy-00053-00013563-00013869 I did that 25 years of stuff and the
+yctKpHBguqy-00054-00013869-00014144 deepest pains I had were basically
+yctKpHBguqy-00055-00014146-00014288 untouched I was more of a positive
+yctKpHBguqy-00056-00014290-00014484 thinker I understood some things but the
+yctKpHBguqy-00057-00014485-00014622 deepest was that pretty is that pretty
+yctKpHBguqy-00058-00014622-00014778 accurate and that's a hundred percent
+yctKpHBguqy-00059-00014779-00015069 accurate okay Wow okay and then how long
+yctKpHBguqy-00060-00015069-00015372 ago did you and I connect two or three
+yctKpHBguqy-00061-00015372-00015585 years I'm thinking I'm thinking - yeah
+yctKpHBguqy-00062-00015586-00015822 probably went to or so all right and
+yctKpHBguqy-00063-00015822-00016359 what was your initial reaction to me and
+yctKpHBguqy-00064-00016360-00016734 level five you know how did how did you
+yctKpHBguqy-00065-00016735-00016901 find me what was your initial reaction
+yctKpHBguqy-00066-00016902-00017172 you were actually you found me you were
+yctKpHBguqy-00067-00017173-00017481 referred to me for our marketing
+yctKpHBguqy-00068-00017482-00018024 services to help grow level-5 post book
+yctKpHBguqy-00069-00018025-00018324 launch on break yourself up addiction
+yctKpHBguqy-00070-00018325-00018603 and I was honestly a different person
+yctKpHBguqy-00071-00018604-00018939 back then I was in a even though I
+yctKpHBguqy-00072-00018940-00019206 claimed to be on a spiritual journey and
+yctKpHBguqy-00073-00019207-00019404 I'm sure that I was I was in a more
+yctKpHBguqy-00074-00019405-00019716 negative skeptical fear-based place so
+yctKpHBguqy-00075-00019717-00019905 my initial response was here's another
+yctKpHBguqy-00076-00019906-00020115 guru
+yctKpHBguqy-00077-00020116-00020331 we've marketed these guys before they
+yctKpHBguqy-00078-00020332-00020517 all claim to have the solution they all
+yctKpHBguqy-00079-00020518-00020700 claim this one thing their lives are not
+yctKpHBguqy-00080-00020701-00020790 the same as what they're teaching
+yctKpHBguqy-00081-00020791-00021210 everybody else and okay
+yctKpHBguqy-00082-00021211-00021393 I'll take the money and we'll do our
+yctKpHBguqy-00083-00021394-00021567 stuff and we'll you know see what
+yctKpHBguqy-00084-00021568-00021768 happens so that was my initial
+yctKpHBguqy-00085-00021769-00022131 assessment coming from that place and
+yctKpHBguqy-00086-00022132-00022389 then after I had my first session with
+yctKpHBguqy-00087-00022390-00022566 you I was like oh my god
+yctKpHBguqy-00088-00022567-00022914 there's a total difference I said I feel
+yctKpHBguqy-00089-00022915-00023052 in less than one hour
+yctKpHBguqy-00090-00023053-00023331 it was um this overwhelming sense of
+yctKpHBguqy-00091-00023332-00023499 peace that I've been after for twenty
+yctKpHBguqy-00092-00023500-00023675 plus years that I never felt before and
+yctKpHBguqy-00093-00023676-00023856 I said maybe this guy isn't like
+yctKpHBguqy-00094-00023857-00024050 everybody else maybe he isn't thought
+yctKpHBguqy-00095-00024051-00024210 maybe he is actually full of the right
+yctKpHBguqy-00096-00024211-00024609 things and maybe there's something to
+yctKpHBguqy-00097-00024610-00024897 this level of live stuff beautiful man
+yctKpHBguqy-00098-00024898-00025224 and so if you were to look at sit in the
+yctKpHBguqy-00099-00025225-00025425 last couple years may you and I have we
+yctKpHBguqy-00100-00025426-00025563 built a quick friendship
+yctKpHBguqy-00101-00025564-00025893 we've estranged that we've not stayed in
+yctKpHBguqy-00102-00025894-00026084 constant contact and then yet every see
+yctKpHBguqy-00103-00026085-00026370 me that's totally on me but either way
+yctKpHBguqy-00104-00026370-00026604 you every several months we would bounce
+yctKpHBguqy-00105-00026605-00026751 up against each other I might
+yctKpHBguqy-00106-00026752-00026895 a word you might lay out in one of my
+yctKpHBguqy-00107-00026895-00027210 videos and so you haven't done like deep
+yctKpHBguqy-00108-00027211-00027402 intense work with me and yet we've done
+yctKpHBguqy-00109-00027402-00027636 a bit and what would you say the
+yctKpHBguqy-00110-00027637-00027774 differences in your life and
+yctKpHBguqy-00111-00027775-00028189 realistically maybe two or three hours
+yctKpHBguqy-00112-00028191-00028668 of contact and you have Expo you have
+yctKpHBguqy-00113-00028669-00028827 watched a couple of my videos and I
+yctKpHBguqy-00114-00028827-00029070 think you read my book right read your
+yctKpHBguqy-00115-00029070-00029252 book multiple times multiple times okay
+yctKpHBguqy-00116-00029253-00029502 so what is different in your life as a
+yctKpHBguqy-00117-00029502-00029768 quote person and entrepreneur
+yctKpHBguqy-00118-00029769-00030129 okay so we're we're recording this at an
+yctKpHBguqy-00119-00030130-00030305 incredible time not just in the world
+yctKpHBguqy-00120-00030306-00030545 but in my spiritual development cuz
+yctKpHBguqy-00121-00030547-00030914 there's no coincidence there so I've had
+yctKpHBguqy-00122-00030915-00031337 two spells as you have called them that
+yctKpHBguqy-00123-00031338-00031560 had been an egg's in my life for 30
+yctKpHBguqy-00124-00031561-00031827 years that broke in the last couple
+yctKpHBguqy-00125-00031827-00032095 couple 30 days in the month of March
+yctKpHBguqy-00126-00032097-00032393 2020 as we record this I had two things
+yctKpHBguqy-00127-00032394-00032699 that I had carried with me that I let
+yctKpHBguqy-00128-00032700-00032924 negatively affect me that I had been
+yctKpHBguqy-00129-00032925-00033123 holding on to with intense negativity
+yctKpHBguqy-00130-00033124-00033320 and fear and grudges and anger and
+yctKpHBguqy-00131-00033321-00033582 resentment that one in the last 24 hours
+yctKpHBguqy-00132-00033583-00033799 and one in the last couple three weeks
+yctKpHBguqy-00133-00033800-00034145 that both broke so my life is in a
+yctKpHBguqy-00134-00034146-00034337 completely different place one of the
+yctKpHBguqy-00135-00034338-00034755 things I've noticed in the content I've
+yctKpHBguqy-00136-00034756-00034917 consumed from you and in the work that
+yctKpHBguqy-00137-00034918-00035355 we did do together is that you're you
+yctKpHBguqy-00138-00035356-00035471 can't split business and personal
+yctKpHBguqy-00139-00035472-00035630 development you're totally right I've
+yctKpHBguqy-00140-00035631-00035799 noticed that there have been when
+yctKpHBguqy-00141-00035800-00035982 everybody else is in fear and their
+yctKpHBguqy-00142-00035983-00036143 business is closing or people are
+yctKpHBguqy-00143-00036144-00036498 getting laid off our business goes to a
+yctKpHBguqy-00144-00036499-00036593 whole new level
+yctKpHBguqy-00145-00036594-00036807 and it wasn't because as a marketer I
+yctKpHBguqy-00146-00036808-00036957 learned some whiz-bang new Facebook add
+yctKpHBguqy-00147-00036958-00037118 or click funnel or whatever Infusionsoft
+yctKpHBguqy-00148-00037119-00037346 technique it was because I changed as a
+yctKpHBguqy-00149-00037347-00037617 person there is no greater lab for
+yctKpHBguqy-00150-00037618-00037764 personal development than trying to grow
+yctKpHBguqy-00151-00037765-00037980 a business and there's no higher high
+yctKpHBguqy-00152-00037981-00038255 there's no lower though and in my own
+yctKpHBguqy-00153-00038256-00038468 experience up until this point that is
+yctKpHBguqy-00154-00038469-00038789 what I believed and I would say our
+yctKpHBguqy-00155-00038790-00038987 business changes and transforms and
+yctKpHBguqy-00156-00038988-00039207 ascends to higher levels every time I
+yctKpHBguqy-00157-00039208-00039507 grow spiritually magically the business
+yctKpHBguqy-00158-00039508-00039810 rises to meet the new me so we're on
+yctKpHBguqy-00159-00039811-00040143 we've already had I have
+yctKpHBguqy-00160-00040144-00040356 Hanan transformation cuz of a spell that
+yctKpHBguqy-00161-00040357-00040563 broke in the last month and had one
+yctKpHBguqy-00162-00040564-00040797 break literally yesterday and him so
+yctKpHBguqy-00163-00040798-00040995 light in on air and can't wait to see
+yctKpHBguqy-00164-00040996-00041159 what happens next
+yctKpHBguqy-00165-00041160-00041577 beautiful man okay so I have two final
+yctKpHBguqy-00166-00041578-00041775 questions and this is like it's such a
+yctKpHBguqy-00167-00041776-00041958 blessing and I know other people can
+yctKpHBguqy-00168-00041959-00042141 feel because of what's coming off of you
+yctKpHBguqy-00169-00042142-00042429 is unmistakable and I almost wish I had
+yctKpHBguqy-00170-00042430-00042768 a video clip of our yeah it's totally
+yctKpHBguqy-00171-00042769-00043089 different but I would look like a total
+yctKpHBguqy-00172-00043090-00043269 prick if I'm allowed to say that on air
+yctKpHBguqy-00173-00043270-00043446 I would look like a negative scared
+yctKpHBguqy-00174-00043447-00043641 prick because I thought I was and you
+yctKpHBguqy-00175-00043642-00043890 were and and and how could you not have
+yctKpHBguqy-00176-00043891-00044070 been with what you went through and you
+yctKpHBguqy-00177-00044071-00044316 know here we all are just either waking
+yctKpHBguqy-00178-00044317-00044502 up or resisting it and you decide well I
+yctKpHBguqy-00179-00044503-00044718 was in resistance even when we started
+yctKpHBguqy-00180-00044719-00044958 working together for you would every
+yctKpHBguqy-00181-00044959-00045099 time you messaged me oh you know every
+yctKpHBguqy-00182-00045100-00045237 couple months you would drop me a line
+yctKpHBguqy-00183-00045238-00045552 and up until I don't know the last three
+yctKpHBguqy-00184-00045553-00045849 or six months I resisted like crazy yeah
+yctKpHBguqy-00185-00045850-00046074 if you weren't more evolved I would have
+yctKpHBguqy-00186-00046075-00046449 driven you nuts but finally the pole
+yctKpHBguqy-00187-00046450-00046698 came out the dam broke whatever metaphor
+yctKpHBguqy-00188-00046699-00046893 you want to use and your last time that
+yctKpHBguqy-00189-00046894-00047064 you reached out I actually felt the
+yctKpHBguqy-00190-00047065-00047315 blessing and could receive it as opposed
+yctKpHBguqy-00191-00047316-00047547 to trying to argue with it wow man I
+yctKpHBguqy-00192-00047548-00047855 really appreciate that transparency in a
+yctKpHBguqy-00193-00047856-00048132 transmission that's coming off of you so
+yctKpHBguqy-00194-00048133-00048282 I know this is this is gonna bless a lot
+yctKpHBguqy-00195-00048283-00048531 of people I so I have to I have a
+yctKpHBguqy-00196-00048532-00048777 favorite question however with you doing
+yctKpHBguqy-00197-00048778-00048924 the entrepreneurial work that you do I'm
+yctKpHBguqy-00198-00048925-00049218 gonna put this in front of it what is
+yctKpHBguqy-00199-00049219-00049719 your take on level five the work that I
+yctKpHBguqy-00200-00049720-00050015 do this level five paradigm in the whole
+yctKpHBguqy-00201-00050016-00050361 shift for businesses and entrepreneurs
+yctKpHBguqy-00202-00050362-00050540 people who want to develop business
+yctKpHBguqy-00203-00050541-00050898 especially during tough times if you
+yctKpHBguqy-00204-00050899-00051129 were let's just say that you were doing
+yctKpHBguqy-00205-00051130-00051276 an event you know and you had your whole
+yctKpHBguqy-00206-00051277-00051501 audience there and they said so what
+yctKpHBguqy-00207-00051502-00051657 about that level five thing what's
+yctKpHBguqy-00208-00051658-00051849 what's the value of that to us right now
+yctKpHBguqy-00209-00051850-00052062 what would you say I would say it's more
+yctKpHBguqy-00210-00052063-00052170 valuable than ever
+yctKpHBguqy-00211-00052171-00052569 I would their thirst you got to use
+yctKpHBguqy-00212-00052570-00052725 human words right that's all I've got
+yctKpHBguqy-00213-00052726-00052941 I'm gonna do something that the old me
+yctKpHBguqy-00214-00052941-00053121 and there's always a new me right it
+yctKpHBguqy-00215-00053122-00053295 keeps changing literally 24 hours ago
+yctKpHBguqy-00216-00053296-00053541 there was an old me yeah
+yctKpHBguqy-00217-00053542-00053725 it's one so I would say I'll do
+yctKpHBguqy-00218-00053726-00053851 something the old me never would have
+yctKpHBguqy-00219-00053852-00054040 done I'll talk myself out of money I
+yctKpHBguqy-00220-00054041-00054267 would say rather invest in more
+yctKpHBguqy-00221-00054269-00054504 marketing invest in developing yourself
+yctKpHBguqy-00222-00054505-00054679 spiritually and personally I would say
+yctKpHBguqy-00223-00054679-00054801 that will take your business to a whole
+yctKpHBguqy-00224-00054802-00055129 new level faster than any online
+yctKpHBguqy-00225-00055129-00055399 marketing or podcasting that we could do
+yctKpHBguqy-00226-00055400-00055605 for you we're now I've literally told
+yctKpHBguqy-00227-00055607-00055876 clients in the last 30 days you know
+yctKpHBguqy-00228-00055877-00056266 what it's not gonna work not because our
+yctKpHBguqy-00229-00056266-00056416 marketing won't work because of where
+yctKpHBguqy-00230-00056416-00056667 you are and who you are showing up as
+yctKpHBguqy-00231-00056669-00056916 right now I've said love your business
+yctKpHBguqy-00232-00056917-00057232 love what you're doing don't hire us go
+yctKpHBguqy-00233-00057233-00057487 do some other work on yourself and when
+yctKpHBguqy-00234-00057488-00057673 you are in a different place this will
+yctKpHBguqy-00235-00057674-00057894 magically work but right now if I take
+yctKpHBguqy-00236-00057895-00057982 your money I'm doing you a disservice
+yctKpHBguqy-00237-00057983-00058210 because you won't even though it's not
+yctKpHBguqy-00238-00058211-00058588 conscious you won't let it work that is
+yctKpHBguqy-00239-00058589-00059026 profound and profoundly true and it's
+yctKpHBguqy-00240-00059027-00059260 really awesome that you said it I get to
+yctKpHBguqy-00241-00059261-00059480 say it less now because you've said it I
+yctKpHBguqy-00242-00059482-00059742 in very last question this was my
+yctKpHBguqy-00243-00059744-00059974 favorite set and especially for where
+yctKpHBguqy-00244-00059975-00060103 you're at this is gonna be beautiful so
+yctKpHBguqy-00245-00060104-00060316 just imagine it's two and a half years
+yctKpHBguqy-00246-00060316-00060700 ago and there's a Seth clone right and
+yctKpHBguqy-00247-00060701-00060973 he's literally just now watching this
+yctKpHBguqy-00248-00060974-00061194 video and it's the day before you found
+yctKpHBguqy-00249-00061195-00061414 me and he's looking at level five and
+yctKpHBguqy-00250-00061415-00061594 like a lot of people he says that's a
+yctKpHBguqy-00251-00061595-00061926 little strange that guys long and I this
+yctKpHBguqy-00252-00061927-00062203 is a little bit on the iffy side I just
+yctKpHBguqy-00253-00062204-00062365 don't know about this guy's book or his
+yctKpHBguqy-00254-00062366-00062526 program or whatever what would you say
+yctKpHBguqy-00255-00062527-00062751 to him from your heart god jump a
+yctKpHBguqy-00256-00062752-00063136 hundred percent yesterday it's pretty
+yctKpHBguqy-00257-00063137-00063444 simple I can't make it any clearer than
+yctKpHBguqy-00258-00063445-00063751 that yeah I I wish I could go back and
+yctKpHBguqy-00259-00063752-00064078 do this sooner well I did try to twist
+yctKpHBguqy-00260-00064079-00064309 your arm a little bit many many many
+yctKpHBguqy-00261-00064310-00064540 many times but it speaks volumes to the
+yctKpHBguqy-00262-00064541-00064731 amount of resistance I had that I did
+yctKpHBguqy-00263-00064732-00064984 not let you yeah my arm never should
+yctKpHBguqy-00264-00064985-00065169 have needed to have been twisted well
+yctKpHBguqy-00265-00065170-00065335 you know that we're all we're all in
+yctKpHBguqy-00266-00065336-00065698 fear until we're not and when we're here
+yctKpHBguqy-00267-00065699-00065968 we never admit or realize that we're in
+yctKpHBguqy-00268-00065969-00066163 fear we just think I don't like this or
+yctKpHBguqy-00269-00066164-00066418 this is you know we see it as weird
+yctKpHBguqy-00270-00066419-00066589 rather than all I can't tell you how
+yctKpHBguqy-00271-00066590-00066784 many times I had the resistant Prime's
+yctKpHBguqy-00272-00066785-00066937 just trying to get me to come to
+yctKpHBguqy-00273-00066938-00067171 you know this is what he want it when's
+yctKpHBguqy-00274-00067172-00067336 he gonna get it I'm not coming to Hawaii
+yctKpHBguqy-00275-00067337-00067486 I'm not going to Hawaii for the first
+yctKpHBguqy-00276-00067487-00067638 time without my wife and kids and I'm
+yctKpHBguqy-00277-00067639-00067774 not going to see Brian for the if I'm
+yctKpHBguqy-00278-00067775-00067903 going to Hawaii if I'm getting us on an
+yctKpHBguqy-00279-00067904-00068038 18-hour plane but it's a family vacation
+yctKpHBguqy-00280-00068039-00068275 we're not going to see Brian what is he
+yctKpHBguqy-00281-00068276-00068404 gonna get that through his enlightened
+yctKpHBguqy-00282-00068405-00068578 head that I'm not coming to Hawaii and
+yctKpHBguqy-00283-00068579-00068706 whatever he wants to do we just got to
+yctKpHBguqy-00284-00068707-00068931 find another way to do it that was the
+yctKpHBguqy-00285-00068932-00069193 hope that was the Paul Wow that's of
+yctKpHBguqy-00286-00069194-00069478 this beautiful man well you know I
+yctKpHBguqy-00287-00069479-00069661 I've never done this on any interview
+yctKpHBguqy-00288-00069662-00069813 and we've we've been really quick so I'm
+yctKpHBguqy-00289-00069814-00070030 gonna add a last piece on it and I I
+yctKpHBguqy-00290-00070031-00070435 just trust my intuition man I have had
+yctKpHBguqy-00291-00070436-00070771 I'm guessing probably about 40 50 people
+yctKpHBguqy-00292-00070772-00071025 that I've done the four days in Hawaii
+yctKpHBguqy-00293-00071026-00071191 with a few people have flown me to their
+yctKpHBguqy-00294-00071192-00071419 country and I don't really enjoy that
+yctKpHBguqy-00295-00071420-00071629 right well as soon as you can travel
+yctKpHBguqy-00296-00071630-00071890 we're getting you here okay and I'm
+yctKpHBguqy-00297-00071891-00072075 happy to do it and this thing about
+yctKpHBguqy-00298-00072076-00072235 people you know coming to sit with me
+yctKpHBguqy-00299-00072236-00072565 for for the four days in Hawaii I watch
+yctKpHBguqy-00300-00072566-00072766 sometimes when I'm talking to people and
+yctKpHBguqy-00301-00072767-00072922 they say well I heard about your four
+yctKpHBguqy-00302-00072923-00073125 days but and I say this and you can you
+yctKpHBguqy-00303-00073126-00073291 can forget about me trying to sell you
+yctKpHBguqy-00304-00073292-00073522 on that because I'd have to sit with you
+yctKpHBguqy-00305-00073523-00073903 for four days I will I will do
+yctKpHBguqy-00306-00073904-00074062 everything I can to persuade you that
+yctKpHBguqy-00307-00074063-00074260 you can be free and happy yeah you would
+yctKpHBguqy-00308-00074261-00074413 not have wanted to sit with me back I
+yctKpHBguqy-00309-00074414-00074587 know you offered but you would it would
+yctKpHBguqy-00310-00074588-00074800 not have been you rejected me at one
+yctKpHBguqy-00311-00074801-00074923 point and we're like you know what even
+yctKpHBguqy-00312-00074924-00075124 if you want to it's a bad idea cuz of
+yctKpHBguqy-00313-00075125-00075282 where you're at I don't want to hang out
+yctKpHBguqy-00314-00075283-00075496 with you for four days twenty nine hours
+yctKpHBguqy-00315-00075497-00075640 a day and you wouldn't want it would not
+yctKpHBguqy-00316-00075641-00075787 have been enjoyable it would have sucked
+yctKpHBguqy-00317-00075788-00075969 for both of us so so you know that
+yctKpHBguqy-00318-00075970-00076150 resistance that people can feel
+yctKpHBguqy-00319-00076151-00076366 sometimes it's ironic we were talking
+yctKpHBguqy-00320-00076367-00076486 about that right before the interview
+yctKpHBguqy-00321-00076487-00077068 right the resistance is always in me so
+yctKpHBguqy-00322-00077069-00077256 your resistance is always in you we feel
+yctKpHBguqy-00323-00077257-00077475 like we're trying to resist the other
+yctKpHBguqy-00324-00077476-00077775 person but it's actually us and I would
+yctKpHBguqy-00325-00077776-00078129 never in a billionaires attempt to sell
+yctKpHBguqy-00326-00078130-00078373 someone on sitting me for four days
+yctKpHBguqy-00327-00078374-00078490 against their will because it would have
+yctKpHBguqy-00328-00078491-00078673 sucked for both of us and I'm it's
+yctKpHBguqy-00329-00078674-00078973 really awesome to see the resistance
+yctKpHBguqy-00330-00078974-00079182 dissolving in you but but what I what I
+yctKpHBguqy-00331-00079183-00079494 actually see said I don't really see you
+yctKpHBguqy-00332-00079495-00079668 see the resistance dissolving what I
+yctKpHBguqy-00333-00079669-00079999 really see is the joy emanating from you
+yctKpHBguqy-00334-00080000-00080247 again I see the boy
+yctKpHBguqy-00335-00080248-00080525 that got squashed under all that emotion
+yctKpHBguqy-00336-00080526-00080775 is shinin dude and I know people around
+yctKpHBguqy-00337-00080776-00081081 you are seeing it yes I bet your
+yctKpHBguqy-00338-00081082-00081413 family's loving it man yes I taught my I
+yctKpHBguqy-00339-00081414-00081693 was in tears of joy last night when it
+yctKpHBguqy-00340-00081694-00081867 happened I showed my wife and she was
+yctKpHBguqy-00341-00081868-00082175 speechless I told my kids I called both
+yctKpHBguqy-00342-00082176-00082478 my parents it's it's been incredible
+yctKpHBguqy-00343-00082479-00082674 beautiful man would thank you so much
+yctKpHBguqy-00344-00082675-00082821 for doing the interview with me Seth I
+yctKpHBguqy-00345-00082822-00082959 love and appreciate you man looking
+yctKpHBguqy-00346-00082960-00083201 forward to more awesomeness expanding as
+yctKpHBguqy-00347-00083202-00083456 we go through this crazy time into the
+yctKpHBguqy-00348-00083457-00083781 awesomeness that's waiting amen see you
+yctKpHBguqy-00349-00083782-00084024 soon brother
+yd9XkEPvelc-00000-00000003-00000221 the canvas told me evolution this year
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+yf47LZ8oZII-00003-00000872-00001199 um some sexual health 101.
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+yf47LZ8oZII-00006-00001496-00001855 one sex feels great it's supposed to
+yf47LZ8oZII-00007-00001855-00002175 feel good number two
+yf47LZ8oZII-00008-00002176-00002334 never swallow
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+yf47LZ8oZII-00013-00003415-00003527 one
+yf47LZ8oZII-00014-00003528-00003790 just because calm comes out of it
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+yf47LZ8oZII-00022-00005768-00005927 if there's
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+yjpROJh6pZE-00016-00002800-00002895 here
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+yjpROJh6pZE-00022-00004160-00004238 are you going to see
+yjpROJh6pZE-00023-00004239-00004454 me steve mcfarland and don't forget your
+yjpROJh6pZE-00024-00004455-00004696 mask
+yk2P9NraYny-00000-00000000-00002368 oh yeah love hitting people 4:8 most
+yk2P9NraYny-00002-00007622-00008030 they fighting in pawn and I'm not gonna
+yk2P9NraYny-00003-00008031-00009728 get an angle on that my crosshairs
+yk2P9NraYny-00004-00009729-00009947 you know this crosshair shits so
+yk2P9NraYny-00005-00009948-00011204 annoying don't take my kill yo see it
+yk2P9NraYny-00006-00011205-00011351 worse when people take your kill now
+yk2P9NraYny-00007-00011352-00011615 with that extra health and [__] that's
+yk2P9NraYny-00008-00011616-00011740 annoying
+yk2P9NraYny-00009-00011741-00012479 you'll redeploy no I want to be part of
+yk2P9NraYny-00010-00012480-00014138 that going in boys
+yk2P9NraYny-00011-00014140-00014594 wagging close range feels weird
+yk2P9NraYny-00012-00014595-00015093 does that girl girl never got our loot I
+yk2P9NraYny-00013-00015094-00015568 think I see her fourth floor all nice
+yk2P9NraYny-00014-00015569-00017617 stinkers the heck are you doing waiting
+yk2P9NraYny-00015-00017618-00019178 oh man ain't punchy lies so did it I
+yk2P9NraYny-00016-00019179-00019837 want to fight this girl oh god I don't
+yk2P9NraYny-00017-00019838-00020262 have an SMG wall filled up one more
+yk2P9NraYny-00018-00020263-00020569 please
+yk2P9NraYny-00020-00025409-00026191 okay
+yk2P9NraYny-00021-00026192-00026824 get rocked kids thanks for the extra
+yk2P9NraYny-00022-00026825-00027526 point my new [__] like adding the extra
+yk2P9NraYny-00023-00027527-00027664 healing and things like that and this
+yk2P9NraYny-00024-00027664-00028030 game is great and all but it makes it
+yk2P9NraYny-00025-00028031-00028372 really tough for like everyone gets a
+yk2P9NraYny-00026-00028373-00028593 lot stronger
+yk2P9NraYny-00027-00028594-00029033 you need an SMG no I have this
+yk2P9NraYny-00028-00029035-00029593 no I need one kill and I'll be full just
+yk2P9NraYny-00029-00029594-00029889 find a nice little half pot bot
+yk2P9NraYny-00030-00029889-00030337 forgettin lately I've been up and think
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+yk2P9NraYny-00032-00030952-00031192 definitely really appreciate the
+yk2P9NraYny-00033-00031193-00031786 increase in farming speed having the max
+yk2P9NraYny-00034-00031787-00032041 1,500 I don't think is an issue I'd be
+yk2P9NraYny-00035-00032042-00032311 really interested to see what I max a 30
+yk2P9NraYny-00036-00032312-00032356 left
+yk2P9NraYny-00037-00032357-00032686 uh when I max 1500 cap would do -
+yk2P9NraYny-00038-00032687-00033007 screams do I want to wait til I'm top
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+yk2P9NraYny-00040-00033203-00033892 aggressive because I think I only how
+yk2P9NraYny-00041-00033893-00034170 many more limbs do I need now is it nine
+yk2P9NraYny-00042-00034171-00034438 or is it three six seven I can't get
+yk2P9NraYny-00043-00034439-00034985 more points for limbs now right
+yk2P9NraYny-00044-00034986-00035620 sorry bro it's not personal
+yk2P9NraYny-00045-00035621-00035842 [Music]
+yk2P9NraYny-00046-00035843-00036239 just what I needed and big pots are the
+yk2P9NraYny-00047-00036240-00037355 best things to carry here that's it it's
+yk2P9NraYny-00048-00037356-00037562 all uh all that much you're gonna give
+yk2P9NraYny-00049-00037563-00037786 me game hmm
+yk2P9NraYny-00050-00037787-00038900 hey what's my dad do do with this game
+yk2P9NraYny-00051-00038901-00039281 hello Oh me I would I line that up
+yk2P9NraYny-00052-00039282-00040996 perfectly it's just things still yes not
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+yk2P9NraYny-00054-00041256-00041306 for
+yk2P9NraYny-00055-00041307-00043058 endgame no no not like this not like
+yk2P9NraYny-00056-00043059-00045799 this wait over here
+yk2P9NraYny-00057-00045800-00046828 come on
+yk2P9NraYny-00058-00046829-00048383 it's not my building can shoot straight
+yk2P9NraYny-00059-00048384-00049715 up with the hello
+yk2P9NraYny-00062-00058938-00060088 okay that's some stupid [__]
+yk2P9NraYny-00063-00060089-00062441 the fun game
+yk2P9NraYny-00065-00066407-00066903 hello
+yk2P9NraYny-00066-00066904-00068608 this is game for realsies
+yk2P9NraYny-00067-00068609-00070001 my no worries are this [__]
+yk2P9NraYny-00068-00070002-00070503 [Music]
+yk2P9NraYny-00069-00070504-00070898 little baby kitties can't fight with me
+yk2P9NraYny-00070-00070899-00071652 [Music]
+yk2P9NraYny-00071-00071653-00072736 gonna hit those oh he's a game ez life
+yk2P9NraYny-00072-00072737-00073168 max points broiled flash baby can't stop
+yk2P9NraYny-00073-00073169-00073548 me now
+yk2P9NraYny-00074-00073549-00075495 [Music]
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00040-00011335-00011566 the recipients of the lifetime
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00043-00011984-00012274 selected by the advisory board for the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00044-00012275-00012466 other Awards a vote open to all those
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00047-00012847-00013488 categories finalists
+ykqqHFKmldk-00048-00013488-00014033 topic list of winners
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00050-00014268-00014522 early in the following year winners are
+ykqqHFKmldk-00051-00014522-00015171 listed first and highlighted in bold
+ykqqHFKmldk-00052-00015172-00015678 topic game of the year
+ykqqHFKmldk-00053-00015679-00015921 the game of the Year award recognizes
+ykqqHFKmldk-00054-00015922-00016106 the overall best game released during
+ykqqHFKmldk-00055-00016107-00016256 the previous calendar year as
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00058-00017033-00017550 topic best audio
+ykqqHFKmldk-00059-00017551-00017835 best audio award recognizes the overall
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00062-00018301-00018860 design and orchestration mm Diablo 2
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00064-00019398-00019916 Honor allied assault 2003 Call of Duty
+ykqqHFKmldk-00065-00019917-00020667 2004 halo 2 2005 Guitar Hero 2006 Guitar
+ykqqHFKmldk-00066-00020668-00021374 Hero 2 2007 Bioshock 2008 dead space
+ykqqHFKmldk-00067-00021375-00021881 2009 uncharted 2 among thieves 2010 Red
+ykqqHFKmldk-00068-00021882-00022371 Dead Redemption 2011 portal 2 2012
+ykqqHFKmldk-00069-00022372-00022934 journey 2013 BioShock Infinite 2014
+ykqqHFKmldk-00070-00022935-00023313 alien isolation 2015 crypt of the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00071-00023314-00023900 necrodancer 2016 inside 2017 The Legend
+ykqqHFKmldk-00072-00023901-00024430 of Zelda breath of the wild
+ykqqHFKmldk-00073-00024431-00024950 topic Best Debut
+ykqqHFKmldk-00074-00024951-00025235 the Best Debut award recognizes the best
+ykqqHFKmldk-00075-00025236-00025439 game from any development studio which
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00079-00026082-00026432 Year award in years prior to 2008 the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00080-00026433-00026633 award was awarded to the studio name as
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00082-00027051-00027293 corporation min la Jess Cliffe for
+ykqqHFKmldk-00083-00027294-00027623 counter-strike 2001 Bohemia Interactive
+ykqqHFKmldk-00084-00027624-00028020 for operation flashpoint cold war crisis
+ykqqHFKmldk-00085-00028022-00028435 2002 retro studios for Metroid Prime
+ykqqHFKmldk-00086-00028436-00028931 2003 Infinity Ward for Call of Duty 2004
+ykqqHFKmldk-00087-00028932-00029354 Crytek for Far Cry 2005 Double Fine
+ykqqHFKmldk-00088-00029355-00029752 productions for Psychonauts 2006 iron
+ykqqHFKmldk-00089-00029753-00030149 lore entertainment for Titan Quest 2007
+ykqqHFKmldk-00090-00030150-00030364 real-time worlds Microsoft Game Studios
+ykqqHFKmldk-00091-00030366-00030818 for crackdown 2008 Media Molecule for
+ykqqHFKmldk-00092-00030819-00031195 LittleBigPlanet 2009 runic games for
+ykqqHFKmldk-00093-00031197-00031630 torchlight 2010 Mojang for Minecraft
+ykqqHFKmldk-00094-00031631-00032089 2011 supergiant games for Bastion 2012
+ykqqHFKmldk-00095-00032091-00032467 subset games for FTL faster than light
+ykqqHFKmldk-00096-00032468-00032845 2013 the fulbright company for gone home
+ykqqHFKmldk-00097-00032846-00033250 2014 stoic studio for the Banner Saga
+ykqqHFKmldk-00098-00033251-00033539 2015 moon studios for Ori and the blind
+ykqqHFKmldk-00099-00033540-00034077 forest 2016 Campo Santo for fire watch
+ykqqHFKmldk-00100-00034078-00034778 2017 studio mvhr for cuphead
+ykqqHFKmldk-00101-00034779-00035283 topic best design
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00105-00036010-00036665 balancing and scenarios mm Deus Ex 2001
+ykqqHFKmldk-00106-00036666-00037310 Grand Theft Auto 3 2002 battlefield 1942
+ykqqHFKmldk-00107-00037311-00037706 2003 Prince of Persia the sands of time
+ykqqHFKmldk-00108-00037707-00038223 2004 Katamari Damacy 2005 Shadow of the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00109-00038224-00038896 Colossus 2006 Wii Sports 2007 portal
+ykqqHFKmldk-00110-00038897-00039387 2008 LittleBigPlanet 2009 Batman Arkham
+ykqqHFKmldk-00111-00039388-00039942 Asylum 2010 Red Dead Redemption 2011
+ykqqHFKmldk-00112-00039943-00040512 portal 2 2012 journey 2013 The Last of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00113-00040513-00041018 Us 2014 hearthstone heroes of Warcraft
+ykqqHFKmldk-00114-00041019-00041664 2015 rocket league 2016 overwatch 2017
+ykqqHFKmldk-00115-00041665-00042265 The Legend of Zelda breath of the wild
+ykqqHFKmldk-00116-00042266-00042872 topic best mobile handheld game
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00123-00044505-00044771 the Rope 2011 super brothers sword &
+ykqqHFKmldk-00124-00044772-00045128 Sworcery EP 2012 the room 2013 The
+ykqqHFKmldk-00125-00045129-00045319 Legend of Zelda a link between worlds
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00127-00045762-00046371 pokemons go 2017 Goregaon
+ykqqHFKmldk-00128-00046372-00046914 Topic Innovation Award
+ykqqHFKmldk-00129-00046915-00047168 the innovation award recognizes games
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00132-00047544-00047820 medium multiple awards per year were
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00134-00048109-00048390 thousand pounder strike Crazy Taxi Deus
+ykqqHFKmldk-00135-00048391-00048761 Ex jet grind radio no one lives forever
+ykqqHFKmldk-00136-00048762-00049077 2001 black and white Grand Theft Auto 3
+ykqqHFKmldk-00137-00049078-00049583 IC o majestic rez 2002 Animal Crossing
+ykqqHFKmldk-00138-00049584-00049943 battlefield 1942 Medal of Honor allied
+ykqqHFKmldk-00139-00049944-00050321 assault the thing 2003 I toy play
+ykqqHFKmldk-00140-00050322-00050652 beautiful Joe WarioWare Inc mega
+ykqqHFKmldk-00141-00050653-00051068 microgames dollar 2004 donkey konga I
+ykqqHFKmldk-00142-00051069-00051464 love bees Katamari Damacy 2005
+ykqqHFKmldk-00143-00051465-00051965 Nintendogs guitar hero 2006 line Rider
+ykqqHFKmldk-00144-00051966-00052541 Okami Wii Sports 2007 portal 2008
+ykqqHFKmldk-00145-00052541-00053100 LittleBigPlanet 2009 Scribblenauts 2011
+ykqqHFKmldk-00146-00053101-00053666 minecraft 2012 journey 2013 papers
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00148-00054229-00055195 story 2016 no man's sky 2017 gorgoa
+ykqqHFKmldk-00149-00055196-00055702 topic best narrative
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00153-00056399-00056869 branching narratives 2002 Tom Clancy's
+ykqqHFKmldk-00154-00056870-00057289 Splinter Cell 2003 Star Wars Knights of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00155-00057290-00057841 the Old Republic 2004 Half Life 2 2005
+ykqqHFKmldk-00156-00057841-00058222 Psychonauts 2006 The Legend of Zelda
+ykqqHFKmldk-00157-00058223-00058840 Twilight Princess 2007 Bioshock 2008
+ykqqHFKmldk-00158-00058841-00059388 fallout 3 2009 uncharted 2 among thieves
+ykqqHFKmldk-00159-00059389-00060025 2010 Mass Effect 2 2011 portal 2 2012
+ykqqHFKmldk-00160-00060026-00060483 The Walking Dead 2013 The Last of Us
+ykqqHFKmldk-00161-00060484-00060964 2014 Kentucky route zero episode 3 2015
+ykqqHFKmldk-00162-00060965-00061554 herstory 2016 fire watch 2017 what
+ykqqHFKmldk-00163-00061555-00062063 remains of Edith Finch
+ykqqHFKmldk-00164-00062064-00062603 topic best technology
+ykqqHFKmldk-00165-00062604-00062873 best technology award recognizes the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00166-00062874-00063083 overall excellence of technology in a
+ykqqHFKmldk-00167-00063084-00063266 game including graphics programming
+ykqqHFKmldk-00168-00063266-00063497 artificial intelligence networking and
+ykqqHFKmldk-00169-00063498-00064294 physics 2004 half-life 2 2005 Nintendogs
+ykqqHFKmldk-00170-00064295-00064941 2006 Gears of War 2007 crisis 2008
+ykqqHFKmldk-00171-00064942-00065380 LittleBigPlanet 2009 uncharted 2 among
+ykqqHFKmldk-00172-00065382-00065888 thieves 2010 Red Dead Redemption 2011
+ykqqHFKmldk-00173-00065889-00066506 Battlefield 3 2012 Far Cry 3 2013 Grand
+ykqqHFKmldk-00174-00066507-00067115 Theft Auto 5 2014 destiny 2015 The
+ykqqHFKmldk-00175-00067116-00067565 Witcher 3 Wild Hunt 2016 uncharted 4 a
+ykqqHFKmldk-00176-00067566-00068348 thief's end 2017 horizon zero dawn
+ykqqHFKmldk-00177-00068349-00068891 topic best visual art
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00182-00070055-00070871 radio 2001 ICO 2002 Kingdom Hearts 2003
+ykqqHFKmldk-00183-00070872-00071269 The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker 2004
+ykqqHFKmldk-00184-00071270-00071656 World of Warcraft 2005 Shadow of the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00185-00071657-00072372 Colossus 2006 Gears of War 2007 Bioshock
+ykqqHFKmldk-00186-00072373-00072862 2008 Prince of Persia 2009 uncharted 2
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00188-00073433-00073987 3 drake's Deception 2012 journey 2013
+ykqqHFKmldk-00189-00073988-00074478 BioShock Infinite 2014 Monument Valley
+ykqqHFKmldk-00190-00074479-00074921 2015 Ori and the blind forest 2016
+ykqqHFKmldk-00191-00074922-00075619 inside 2017 cuphead
+ykqqHFKmldk-00192-00075620-00076255 topic best vrr game
+ykqqHFKmldk-00193-00076256-00076723 20:16 jobs simulator the 2050 archives
+ykqqHFKmldk-00194-00076724-00077356 2017 superhot VR
+ykqqHFKmldk-00195-00077357-00077978 Topic special awards recipients
+ykqqHFKmldk-00196-00077979-00078326 you
+ykqqHFKmldk-00197-00078327-00078846 topic audience award
+ykqqHFKmldk-00198-00078847-00079074 these awards are voted by the audience
+ykqqHFKmldk-00199-00079075-00079449 for best game of that year 2012
+ykqqHFKmldk-00200-00079450-00079946 Dishonored 2013 Kerbal space program
+ykqqHFKmldk-00201-00079947-00080415 2014 elite dangerous 2015 life is
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00203-00080998-00081463 automata
+ykqqHFKmldk-00204-00081464-00081995 topic the Pioneer Award
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00206-00082238-00082507 2007 the Pioneer award celebrates
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00209-00082932-00083326 design mm chip Morningstar and Randy
+ykqqHFKmldk-00210-00083327-00083650 farmer creators of LucasArts his habitat
+ykqqHFKmldk-00211-00083651-00083987 2001 Hubert sharda for his risk-taking
+ykqqHFKmldk-00212-00083988-00084425 work on the loan in the dark 2002 David
+ykqqHFKmldk-00213-00084426-00084500 Crane
+ykqqHFKmldk-00214-00084501-00084776 Larry Kaplan Jim Levy Alan Miller Bob
+ykqqHFKmldk-00215-00084777-00085154 Whitehead founders of Activision 2003
+ykqqHFKmldk-00216-00085155-00085418 Messiah Matsuura founder of Nana and sha
+ykqqHFKmldk-00217-00085419-00085832 pioneer of music game integration 2004
+ykqqHFKmldk-00218-00085833-00086038 Richard Bartle co-creator of Mudd
+ykqqHFKmldk-00219-00086039-00086290 ancestor to MMOs
+ykqqHFKmldk-00220-00086291-00086615 2005 Don Woods will Crowther creators of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00221-00086616-00086975 the early text game adventure 2006
+ykqqHFKmldk-00222-00086976-00087107 Alexey Pajitnov
+ykqqHFKmldk-00223-00087108-00087500 creator of Tetris 2007 Ralph Baer
+ykqqHFKmldk-00224-00087501-00087878 inventor of the Magnavox Odyssey 2008
+ykqqHFKmldk-00225-00087879-00088163 Alex Riga police and Iran ego Z founders
+ykqqHFKmldk-00226-00088164-00088556 of Harmonix 2009 Gabe Newell founder of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00227-00088557-00089099 Valve Corporation 2010 Yu Suzuki 2011
+ykqqHFKmldk-00228-00089100-00089504 Dave Thoreau 2012 Steve Russell creator
+ykqqHFKmldk-00229-00089505-00089903 of space war 2013 Brandon Beck and Marc
+ykqqHFKmldk-00230-00089904-00090248 Merrill creators of Riot Games 2014
+ykqqHFKmldk-00231-00090249-00090382 David Braben
+ykqqHFKmldk-00232-00090383-00090517 founder of frontier developments
+ykqqHFKmldk-00233-00090518-00090905 co-creator of the elite series 2015
+ykqqHFKmldk-00234-00090906-00091219 Markus notch Persson creator of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00235-00091220-00091631 Minecraft 2016 Jordan Mechner creator of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00236-00091632-00091946 Prince of Persia 2017
+ykqqHFKmldk-00237-00091947-00092182 none GDC had announced their intention
+ykqqHFKmldk-00238-00092183-00092387 to award Nolan Bushnell co-founder of
+ykqqHFKmldk-00239-00092388-00092447 Atari
+ykqqHFKmldk-00240-00092448-00092810 the 2017 Pioneer Award however after
+ykqqHFKmldk-00241-00092811-00093029 several people asked the GDC to
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00247-00094095-00094292 this year's award to honor the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00248-00094293-00094505 pioneering and unheard voices of the
+ykqqHFKmldk-00249-00094506-00094763 past
+ykqqHFKmldk-00250-00094764-00095089 you
+ykqqHFKmldk-00251-00095090-00095639 topic ambassador award
+ykqqHFKmldk-00252-00095640-00095855 the ambassador award is given to
+ykqqHFKmldk-00253-00095856-00096035 individuals within or outside the
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00255-00096285-00096422 to a better place
+ykqqHFKmldk-00256-00096423-00096707 it replaced the IG da Award for
+ykqqHFKmldk-00257-00096708-00097118 community contribution after 2008 2007
+ykqqHFKmldk-00258-00097119-00097705 Jason Della Rocca 2008 Tommy Tallarico
+ykqqHFKmldk-00259-00097706-00098036 2009 Jerry Hulk ins Mike Krulak and
+ykqqHFKmldk-00260-00098037-00098407 Robert Kuh 2010 Tim Bringle and Ian
+ykqqHFKmldk-00261-00098408-00098594 McKenzie organizers of the Game
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00263-00098820-00099221 for 20 plus years 2011 Kenneth Dora show
+ykqqHFKmldk-00264-00099222-00099461 and Paul M Smith the lawyers in Brown v
+ykqqHFKmldk-00265-00099462-00099701 entertainment Merchants Association who
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00270-00101069-00101656 2014 brenda romero 2015 Tracy Fullerton
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00272-00102057-00102263 Rami Ismael co-founder of Vlambeer
+ykqqHFKmldk-00273-00102264-00102842 assistance to indie game development
+ykqqHFKmldk-00274-00102843-00103436 topic lifetime achievement award
+ykqqHFKmldk-00275-00103438-00103613 the lifetime achievement award
+ykqqHFKmldk-00276-00103614-00103808 recognizes the achievements of a
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00278-00104010-00104429 game development mm we'll right sim
+ykqqHFKmldk-00279-00104430-00104957 games 2001 Yuji naka Sonic the Hedgehog
+ykqqHFKmldk-00280-00104958-00105485 2002 gunpei yokoi 1941 to 1997 Gameboy
+ykqqHFKmldk-00281-00105486-00105869 Super Mario Land series Metroid series
+ykqqHFKmldk-00282-00105870-00106170 2003 mark Cerny Crash Bandicoot and
+ykqqHFKmldk-00283-00106171-00106581 Spyro the Dragon 2004 eugene jarvis
+ykqqHFKmldk-00284-00106582-00107070 defender and Robotron 2084 2005 richard
+ykqqHFKmldk-00285-00107071-00107481 garriott ultima 2006 Shigeru Miyamoto
+ykqqHFKmldk-00286-00107482-00107739 creator of Mario Donkey Kong and The
+ykqqHFKmldk-00287-00107740-00108096 Legend of Zelda 2007 Sid Meier's
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00291-00109253-00109736 2010 Peter Molyneux God games 2011 war
+ykqqHFKmldk-00292-00109738-00110043 inspector Deus Ex System Shock thief the
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00295-00111036-00111413 Hironobu Sakaguchi Final Fantasy series
+ykqqHFKmldk-00296-00111414-00111833 2015 Todd Howard Elder Scrolls fallout
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00307-00115346-00115914 topic best downloadable game
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+ykqqHFKmldk-00314-00117930-00118689 flower 2011 minecraft 2012 Bastion 2013
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00029-00007803-00008045 but fundamentally you can't fall fast in
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00036-00009407-00009584 generally most people who want to fall
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00037-00009585-00009809 fast or either mad they've already been
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00038-00009810-00010034 committed or their TV presenters and in
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00039-00010035-00010267 this case this is TV presenters so last
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00040-00010268-00010619 year I was approached by the BBC to ask
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00041-00010620-00010958 me could I use effectively my skills and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00042-00010959-00011164 I should caveat that I'm a provocate
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00043-00011165-00011417 propulsion engineer in my day job most
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00044-00011418-00011578 of the time and I focus on 3d printing
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00045-00011579-00011828 in my other time and they said we've got
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00046-00011829-00012008 TV presenter we want to see if we can
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00048-00012168-00012395 falcon peregrine falcon dives at about
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00049-00012396-00012716 240 miles an hour and this was for a see
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00050-00012717-00012974 BBC series called beyond Bionic the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00051-00012975-00013157 presenter was a guy called still is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00052-00013158-00013350 actually he's not dead fortunately
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00053-00013351-00013580 a guy caught Andy Tolbert he's a Zechs
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00054-00013581-00013788 bomb-disposal he's a bit mad he likes to
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00056-00013893-00014150 perfect candidate and they wanted him to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00057-00014151-00014247 jump out of the plane
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00058-00014247-00014444 dive at the same speed as a peregrine
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00059-00014445-00014721 falcon exceed 240 miles an hour and the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00060-00014722-00014883 crucial thing be alive when he got to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00061-00014884-00015099 the bottom important from an insurance
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00062-00015100-00015366 perspective and the way they wanted to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00063-00015366-00015506 do this was they'd already am
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00064-00015507-00015680 effectively worked out what they wanted
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00065-00015681-00015833 they wanted the pair of big rocket
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00066-00015834-00016011 engines to attach to him not probably
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00067-00016012-00016100 because the rocket engines were the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00068-00016101-00016256 right things to use but because the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00069-00016257-00016392 rocket engines look really cool and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00070-00016393-00016521 they'll be great on TV
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00071-00016522-00016902 great so they've basically asked me can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00072-00016903-00017033 you would get a pair of rocket engines
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00073-00017034-00017202 jet turbine something like that can you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00074-00017203-00017456 attach them to him and I was like yes
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00075-00017457-00017691 probably do you want him alive at the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00076-00017692-00017858 bottom they were said oh absolutely he
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00077-00017859-00017997 needs to survive so that was good for
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00078-00017998-00018192 Andy and his family and probably good
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00079-00018193-00018434 for the insurance company but the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00080-00018435-00018584 challenges of trying to do that is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00081-00018585-00018830 really hard so if you can probably tell
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00082-00018831-00019136 I'm wearing at the moment these are our
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00083-00019137-00019368 first iteration of what how do you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00084-00019369-00019589 attach rocket engines yourself so I'm
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00085-00019590-00019725 just going to come over here and stand
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00086-00019726-00019875 up here because I can't think that's
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00087-00019876-00020030 probably easier so if I do this you can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00088-00020031-00020175 see I'm assuming I don't fall off
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00089-00020176-00020361 because we're really spectacular you can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00090-00020362-00020522 see I'm basically wearing metal boots a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00091-00020523-00020669 little bit like metal evil Knights would
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00092-00020670-00020906 wear excuse me sir I just put my foot
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00093-00020907-00021075 there you can see they've got brackets
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00094-00021076-00021252 coming out the side and effectively what
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00095-00021253-00021405 we were going to do we'll attach small
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00096-00021406-00021605 gas turbines in the same sort that you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00097-00021606-00021758 use for radio-controlled aircraft to the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00098-00021759-00022031 sides now the problem is is it's not so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00099-00022032-00022227 much about having the gas turbine which
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00100-00022228-00022406 is pushing you down and you don't need
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00101-00022407-00022553 that much thrust you need something in
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00104-00022972-00023159 with a small gas turbine the problem is
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00106-00023331-00023646 wrong is one of a few things wrong is
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00108-00023865-00024050 catching on fire with your engine on
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00110-00024195-00024362 fire and then plummeting towards the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00111-00024363-00024639 ground from 12,000 feet is really bad so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00112-00024640-00024792 you've got to do something about that so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00113-00024793-00024971 the idea is how do you get rid of the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00114-00024972-00025184 engine so in some way you ffe dump the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00115-00025185-00025377 engine and the idea is effectively to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00116-00025378-00025536 have be able to kick your leg up here
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00117-00025537-00025853 pull up in exactly if you can pull the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00118-00025854-00026100 pin under centrifugal force and the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00119-00026101-00026345 whole thing should go pitching your
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00120-00026346-00026544 reality is as you just saw I put the pin
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00121-00026545-00026702 and that was quite easy because I'm
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00124-00026858-00026995 spinning in circles not with my
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00125-00026995-00027106 parachute wrapped around me
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00126-00027107-00027316 in reality the insurance company said
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00127-00027317-00027544 it's a nice idea but you want to attach
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00128-00027545-00027697 a gas turbine to a guy jumping out of a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00129-00027698-00027847 plane and then make him do a complicated
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00130-00027848-00028002 maneuver where he has to pull a pin and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00131-00028004-00028192 you're expecting it all to go to plan
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00132-00028193-00028468 and we said yeah it probably will do but
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00133-00028469-00028677 maybe not every time that wasn't good
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00134-00028679-00028891 enough the insurance company so that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00135-00028892-00029164 option basically didn't work so we then
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00136-00029164-00029439 went on to a different system which was
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00137-00029441-00029733 this wonderful bad boy now this is kind
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00138-00029735-00029956 of the in essence the inglorious foot
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00139-00029957-00030175 way of making something this is a very
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00140-00030176-00030370 heavy I'm going to pass it around
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00141-00030370-00030685 starting the front with you sir this
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00142-00030686-00030852 system is basically mounted on your
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00143-00030854-00030913 thigh
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00144-00030914-00031083 it's a better place in your foot because
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00145-00031085-00031162 the problem we're having something on
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00147-00031337-00031539 like that with an engine running really
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00148-00031541-00031729 fast you tend to basically melt your
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00149-00031730-00031995 feet and that's again bad so this system
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00150-00031997-00032173 was designed to basically attach to your
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00151-00032174-00032395 leg in such a way that you could then
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00152-00032395-00032577 pull one of the complicated pins which
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00153-00032579-00032755 you can see attached to it and the whole
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00154-00032756-00032953 thing would push away and again the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00155-00032954-00033082 other caveat I have to throw in there is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00156-00033083-00033307 that you can't just ditch the engine if
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00157-00033308-00033457 you're ditching the engine which weighs
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00159-00033683-00033949 plus ignition circuitry at 12,000 feet
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00160-00033950-00034119 unless you do something with that engine
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00161-00034120-00034336 chances are it's going to hit the ground
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00162-00034337-00034489 the chances of it hitting someone is
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00164-00034721-00034855 account the fact it's not going to hit
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00165-00034856-00035014 anyone so you have to have a parachute
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00166-00035015-00035212 incorporated as well which further
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00167-00035213-00035509 complicates a design and you can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00168-00035510-00035638 probably tell as we're going down this
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00169-00035639-00035899 line the guy jumping out the plane
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00170-00035900-00036142 effectively has a really heavy thing now
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00172-00036311-00036508 really ideal it's also a jet engine so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00173-00036509-00036667 it gets hot it has to be countered away
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00174-00036668-00036874 from the body which is bad and it gets
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00175-00036875-00037075 more and more complicated and then we've
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00176-00037076-00037183 got another effect of something called
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00177-00037184-00037417 counter rotation and counter rotation is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00178-00037418-00037651 effectively the weight coming out of the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00179-00037652-00037948 engine swirling and with turbines they
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00180-00037949-00038122 tend to spin in one direction so the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00181-00038123-00038224 problem is you can end up with this
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00182-00038225-00038449 counter rotation of two engines with
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00183-00038450-00038755 this swirl this wake of hot air coming
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00184-00038756-00038917 out from behind you which effectively
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00185-00038918-00039124 twists you so not only are you now going
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00186-00039125-00039292 straight down in theory you're also
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00187-00039293-00039505 spinning in a circle and again if you're
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00188-00039506-00039619 trying to deploy a parachute at the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00189-00039620-00039769 point the engine switches off the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00190-00039770-00039898 probability of that working your
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00191-00039899-00040057 parachute not getting wrapped around you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00192-00040058-00040120 wrapped around some
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00193-00040121-00040362 else's very slim so that's pretty bad
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00194-00040363-00040582 the biggest problem that jet turbines
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00195-00040583-00040860 though is basically the pilots it know
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00196-00040861-00041104 unsurprisingly and so if if I approached
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00197-00041105-00041389 you and said hey mister pilot we want to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00198-00041390-00041596 start two jet turbines in an aircraft
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00199-00041597-00041929 which is inherently flammable at 15,000
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00200-00041930-00042102 feet with a lot more flammable things on
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00201-00042103-00042355 board and bunch of TV presenters and we
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00202-00042356-00042511 just want to hang out so he's sitting
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00203-00042512-00042790 literally over the effectively the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00204-00042791-00042924 platform of the aircraft where you'd
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00205-00042925-00043137 exit kind of literally like this while
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00206-00043138-00043282 I'm hanging down trying to turn these
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00207-00043283-00043458 engines on because they don't start up
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00208-00043459-00043690 instantaneously can you see anything
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00209-00043691-00043840 going wrong with this pilot was like
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00210-00043841-00043899 mm-hmm
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00211-00043900-00044037 he's not happening in my aircraft you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00212-00044038-00044236 can go and do something else so that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00213-00044237-00044449 kind of blew that up and it also at the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00214-00044450-00044640 same time the insurance company going so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00215-00044641-00044815 you want to jump out the aircraft with
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00216-00044816-00045021 jet engines attached to is this to fly
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00217-00045022-00045232 to go faster no it's to fly force going
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00218-00045233-00045442 down so it can you say that again yes
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00219-00045443-00045742 going down actually can we just pass you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00220-00045743-00046071 to a colleague of ours this is okay that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00221-00046072-00046246 lesson over don't talk to insurance
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00222-00046247-00046371 companies about strapping engines to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00223-00046372-00046611 yourself at least if you want to go up
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00224-00046612-00046882 so we then basically and this is what we
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00225-00046883-00047127 go on to freely printing so the thing in
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00226-00047128-00047257 which you're passing around currently
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00227-00047258-00047437 really really heavy this on the other
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00228-00047438-00047686 hand really really light so this is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00229-00047687-00047845 actually printed on an altar make it to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00230-00047846-00048055 pretty small platform many of you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00231-00048056-00048223 probably I've got a similar small 3d
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00232-00048224-00048436 printer fused deposition modeling easy
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00233-00048437-00048679 to utilize etc it's printed in nylon
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00234-00048680-00048814 it's lightweight it's really strong
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00235-00048815-00049033 however it's not for a turbine turbines
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00236-00049034-00049224 get hot this is where an electric ducted
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00237-00049225-00049582 fan show of hands quickly anyone doesn't
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00238-00049583-00049902 know what an electric ducted fan is okay
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00239-00049903-00050115 anyone know what a dyson vacuum cleaner
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00240-00050116-00050502 is everyone hopefully okay electric
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00241-00050503-00050695 ducted fan roughly is where Dyson works
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00242-00050696-00050983 high-speed motor in a shroud forces air
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00243-00050984-00051151 through a very high pressure bit like a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00244-00051152-00051333 jet engine however the exit velocity of
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00245-00051334-00051529 the air coming out isn't in effectively
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00246-00051529-00051717 the hundreds if not thousands of
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00247-00051719-00051862 kilometers an hour is typically more
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00248-00051863-00052071 than hundreds so it's effectively a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00249-00052072-00052242 lower thrust what we call a static
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00250-00052244-00052401 thrust but it still gives you an
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00251-00052402-00052629 effectively enough for us to give you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00252-00052630-00052810 the lift that you need or the downward
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00253-00052811-00053011 force that you want so you can put
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00254-00053012-00053259 something like that into an engine
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00255-00053260-00053485 Laurence could you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00256-00053486-00053676 here please actually just walk to the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00257-00053677-00053785 front that's probably a safer place for
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00258-00053786-00054216 everybody go that way if you want to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00259-00054217-00054391 stand on the speaker oh yeah you can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00260-00054391-00054588 stand on the speaker this might be
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00261-00054589-00054949 interesting so Lawrence has very kindly
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00262-00054950-00055141 volunteered to demonstrate the system
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00263-00055141-00055546 that we decided to use so while he does
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00264-00055547-00055666 look a little bit like The Wizard of Oz
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00265-00055666-00055900 I can assure you he's not so what we
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00266-00055901-00056076 fundamentally have is we have a pair of
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00267-00056077-00056266 electric ducted fans on either side and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00268-00056266-00056563 these are held with 3d printed holders
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00269-00056564-00056713 which incorporate everything nice
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00270-00056714-00056904 elegant design combined as much as you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00271-00056905-00057148 can so effectively on each side you've
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00272-00057149-00057424 got a pair of batteries just around here
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00273-00057425-00057619 if you can see there's an electric speed
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00274-00057620-00057829 controller comparing controlling the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00275-00057829-00058003 power out of a pair of lithium-ion
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00276-00058004-00058213 batteries and then they run basically
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00277-00058214-00058321 two ducted fans
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00278-00058322-00058588 dr. fans have about 13 kgs of static
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00279-00058589-00058806 thrust each they're not technically
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00280-00058807-00058969 off-the-shelf I borrowed them from an ex
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00281-00058970-00059224 defense project but I don't think
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00282-00059225-00059363 they'll know about that so it's fine
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00283-00059364-00059563 and this isn't Benny recorded or
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00284-00059564-00059805 anything so it's perfectly safe and then
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00285-00059807-00059982 this basically is linked to is really
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00286-00059983-00060213 complicated harness and this grab handle
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00287-00060214-00060403 here Lions don't pull the grab handle
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00288-00060404-00060553 that definitely don't pull the grab
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00289-00060554-00060754 handle if he pulls the grab handle what
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00290-00060754-00060954 happens is these black cables if you can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00291-00060955-00061125 see and do come up afterwards and have a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00292-00061126-00061407 look basically get pulled out and the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00293-00061408-00061600 straps basically release so you can dump
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00294-00061601-00061786 the entire engine and the key thing is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00295-00061787-00062043 actually built inside the cavity inside
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00296-00062044-00062113 the plastic
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00297-00062114-00062400 there's effectively a parachute and that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00298-00062401-00062566 parachute would normally be tied very
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00299-00062566-00062710 loosely with effectively parachute
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00300-00062711-00062904 thread to his trouser legs so if he
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00301-00062905-00063034 needs a dumpling they get in the way etc
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00302-00063035-00063325 pause a hand or power engines fall away
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00303-00063326-00063547 power chutes get ripped out and as they
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00304-00063548-00063669 get ripped out that Freight breaks
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00305-00063670-00063879 parachutes deploy and the engines strong
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00306-00063880-00064032 and that way the worst that will happen
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00307-00064033-00064188 is you'll get something the equivalent
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00308-00064189-00064443 to a a fairly large conquer hitting you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00309-00064444-00064581 on the head I mean it's probably gonna
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00310-00064582-00064716 hurt a bit more than that but it's not
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00311-00064717-00065053 going to kill you so these are powerful
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00312-00065054-00065181 and if you just give me one second I'll
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00313-00065182-00065355 connect them and demonstrate actually
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00314-00065357-00065461 how powerful they are
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00315-00065462-00065623 Lawrence won't fly if there's anyone
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00316-00065624-00065781 like you in the audience you might fly
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00317-00065782-00067630 but my insurance doesn't cover that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00318-00067631-00067837 so this is usually the bet when
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00319-00067838-00067997 everything goes wrong because it has
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00320-00067998-00068218 software involved as we've seen so far
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00321-00068219-00070736 this has control box and the way we did
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00322-00070737-00070951 this actually in flight was with a press
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00323-00070952-00071135 or switch which the pilot held in his
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00324-00071136-00071348 mouth of the TV presenter effectively so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00325-00071349-00071516 when he bit down a veteran out of fear
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00326-00071517-00071867 or happiness the engine sped up and the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00327-00071868-00071996 first time I learned this is that TV
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00328-00071997-00072209 presenters cannot be trusted you cannot
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00329-00072210-00072442 tell them don't put your fingers in the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00330-00072443-00072625 pointy holes at the top so we lost one
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00331-00072626-00072815 engine almost lost the TV presenter when
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00332-00072816-00073024 he before we had fought guards tried to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00333-00073025-00073168 stiff it stick his fingers down here
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00334-00073169-00073312 that was bad
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00335-00073313-00073474 and then the other one was don't start
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00336-00073475-00073715 in the aircraft and actually we learned
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00337-00073716-00073855 the hard way as well and the pilot at
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00338-00073856-00074062 the her hard way as TV presenters don't
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00339-00074063-00074291 know the effectively how not to press
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00340-00074292-00074471 buttons and things so we end up with
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00341-00074472-00074644 press of switch which I basically had
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00342-00074645-00074854 I'm a Deadman switch which meant that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00343-00074855-00075065 only after he exited the aircraft for
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00344-00075066-00075215 the all of our sakes could we actually
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00345-00075216-00075392 make it live otherwise he was just like
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00346-00075393-00075578 a kid in a toy shop what happens if I
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00347-00075579-00075773 press is no Andy I've told you don't
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00348-00075774-00075943 press the button what happens of like
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00349-00075944-00076113 anyway that was quite interesting so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00350-00076114-00076361 Laurence I'm just gonna back away from
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00351-00076362-00076606 you not that I don't trust anything and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00352-00076607-00076810 your glasses are on aren't they
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00353-00076811-00076999 excellent I'm gonna put my glasses on
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00354-00077000-00077153 for safety because safety is really
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00355-00077154-00077338 important no one's at the front and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00356-00077339-00077486 there's nothing Randy was gonna suck
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00357-00077487-00077644 he's not gonna fly it's just gonna be
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00358-00077645-00078026 very loud over to you Lawrence
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00359-00078027-00079360 [Music]
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00360-00079361-00079877 that's good lord
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00361-00079878-00080199 so as you can see that kind of loud so I
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00362-00080200-00080361 produce you given lawns ear defense but
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00363-00080362-00080544 he'll be fine I'm sure you'll be fine as
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00364-00080545-00080763 well please no wonder sue me but the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00365-00080764-00080931 thrust there was reasonably significant
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00366-00080932-00081105 a smaller member of the audience there
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00367-00081106-00081303 if you were perhaps somewhere between
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00368-00081304-00081591 between twenty to twenty five kilos you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00369-00081592-00081762 would actually feel that frost pushing
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00370-00081763-00081906 you up and get generating a lift force
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00371-00081907-00082167 the reality is if we turn along its
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00372-00082168-00082314 upside down and if anyone wants to help
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00373-00082315-00082464 me hold low and subside down afterwards
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00374-00082465-00082641 I can show you how fast he'll be forced
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00375-00082642-00082917 into the floor so you know that works
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00376-00082918-00083142 pretty well I'm pretty much gonna be
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00377-00083143-00083298 running out time but just one of the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00378-00083299-00083523 things I'm Lawrence you can let me let
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00379-00083524-00083640 you just stay there Lawrence move it
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00380-00083641-00083970 easiest I've just passed a couple of
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00381-00083971-00084201 comments in terms of jetpacks so I guess
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00382-00084202-00084291 some of you in the audience are thinking
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00383-00084292-00084498 hey this looks really easy I can get a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00384-00084499-00084663 bunch of ETFs and attach them to myself
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00385-00084664-00084960 on the fly you probably can fly the big
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00386-00084961-00085206 trade-off is effectively battery weight
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00387-00085207-00085392 and the system weight burst of thrust
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00388-00085393-00085575 so I've played around and if you get
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00389-00085576-00085821 about ten of these borrowed from some
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00390-00085822-00086049 folks on the dark side you can actually
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00391-00086050-00086292 lift yourself but only for about five
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00392-00086293-00086409 feet above the ground for about thirty
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00393-00086410-00086613 seconds you probably could do some more
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00394-00086614-00086748 interesting stuff as battery chemistry
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00395-00086749-00086949 changes the flip side is you can attach
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00396-00086950-00087096 a bunch of jetpacks to yourself and a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00397-00087097-00087288 friend of mine could Richard Browning is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00398-00087289-00087585 doing exactly that you if you look and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00399-00087586-00087813 look up Rocket Man on YouTube you'll see
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00400-00087814-00087981 him flying around now the interesting
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00401-00087982-00088209 about Richard is he's using some really
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00402-00088210-00088506 powerful engines and there's a lot of
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00403-00088507-00088650 thought and design going into how he's
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00404-00088651-00088881 utilizing them so again if you think hey
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00405-00088882-00089034 I just get a bunch of gas turbines and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00406-00089035-00089217 attach them onto myself I'd seriously
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00407-00089218-00089472 basically stick with a ducted fans nice
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00408-00089473-00089589 thing about ducted fans is they don't
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00409-00089590-00089778 explode when it goes wrong gas turbines
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00410-00089779-00089964 you suck anything in where you called
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00411-00089965-00090165 foreign object debris into the top here
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00412-00090166-00090285 and you've basically now got a spinning
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00413-00090286-00090531 hand grenade and they do go off of a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00414-00090532-00090711 bomb so not only did you destroy a very
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00415-00090712-00090855 expensive engine you simultaneously
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00416-00090856-00091035 effectively and probably blow your leg
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00417-00091036-00091323 off as well that's it for me any
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00418-00091324-00091389 questions
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00419-00091390-00091569 happy to take them subject having any
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00420-00091570-00091758 available time and which I'm told I do
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00421-00091759-00091950 and please come and take a look at
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00422-00091951-00092025 Lawrence
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00423-00092026-00092190 we won't power up while people are close
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00424-00092191-00092406 to full speed because I don't want to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00425-00092407-00092589 damage your hearing or at the same time
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00426-00092590-00092778 see any of your thing digits get sucked
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00427-00092779-00093117 into the top thank you very much
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00428-00093118-00093675 [Music]
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00429-00093676-00093973 so any questions Jesus asked if you wait
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00430-00093974-00094389 for the microphone so everyone can hear
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00431-00094390-00094759 hi if Lawrence lay on a skateboard and
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00432-00094760-00094921 he turned the fans on what would happen
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00433-00094922-00095161 we'd have a really exciting episode of
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00434-00095162-00095428 hacking hockey races I think so
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00435-00095429-00095596 anyone got a skateboard very happy to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00436-00095597-00096221 try that did you measure what terminal
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00437-00096222-00096415 velocity actually managed to achieve oh
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00438-00096416-00096655 absolutely yes always like with details
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00439-00096656-00096898 so we got Andy talked about up to 200
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00440-00096899-00097099 foot walk down to 247 miles an hour
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00441-00097100-00097318 straight down and he did manage to blow
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00442-00097319-00097543 his parachute and he did walk away his
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00443-00097544-00097711 comments actually were that was so much
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00444-00097712-00097837 fun can we do it again and I was
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00445-00097838-00098035 thinking yes just know if I'm long as
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00446-00098036-00098908 I'm not involved how much faster do you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00447-00098909-00099061 reckon it would be if you had been able
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00448-00099062-00099286 to use the gas-powered Rockets rather
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00449-00099287-00099565 than the fans so I the gas turbines were
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00450-00099566-00099821 putting out 22 kgs each as opposed to 13
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00451-00099822-00099946 of these I reckon we would have probably
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00452-00099947-00100185 got him close to 280 possibly 290
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00453-00100186-00100423 interestingly actually if you get a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00454-00100424-00100627 speed skydiver they can typically get up
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00455-00100628-00100963 to 260 270 so I reckon we probably could
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00456-00100964-00101125 with a little bit of tuning and slightly
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00457-00101126-00101257 larger engines getting through the 300
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00458-00101258-00101437 mile an hour mark the problem at that
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00459-00101438-00101608 point is that we're going to have to
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00460-00101609-00101749 start effectively engineering his upper
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00461-00101750-00101899 body to handle that sort of velocity
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00462-00101900-00102082 which would be great I just don't want
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00463-00102083-00102688 to possibly be involved any other
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00464-00102689-00103155 questions
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00465-00103156-00103486 yeah I was wondering about that how can
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00466-00103487-00103871 the surely a 270 miles an hour they have
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00467-00103872-00104044 their air pressure be pushed on to your
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00468-00104045-00104230 head if he's going straight down was
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00469-00104231-00104377 quite unpleasant like any small
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00470-00104378-00104662 deviation and his neck would like put an
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00471-00104663-00104839 awful lot of strain on the on the spine
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00472-00104840-00105088 yeah I mean he's got a big neck I mean
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00473-00105089-00105395 he's ex-army so it says a lot but I'm
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00474-00105396-00105652 sorry yes it does absolutely but
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00475-00105653-00105787 typically what happens is they tend to
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+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00477-00106107-00106228 if you tend to go in a very slight angle
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00478-00106229-00106457 the problem the major challenge is
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00479-00106458-00106583 actually trying to keep your orientation
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00480-00106583-00106825 in freefall arm form so you go at a
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00481-00106826-00106967 slight angle and it's actually easy
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00482-00106968-00107174 to correct that and particularly when
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00483-00107175-00107303 you're compensating for counter rotation
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00484-00107304-00107504 as well so that reduces the pressure but
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00485-00107505-00107678 absolutely and the faster you go
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00486-00107679-00107864 effectively the greater the strain paste
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00487-00107865-00108058 placed effect me on the head and the
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00488-00108059-00108242 spines so if we were gonna want to get
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00489-00108243-00108404 them up to really fast I mean I'd love
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00490-00108405-00108593 to game up to basically break the sound
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00491-00108594-00108923 barrier against enough exactly we need
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00492-00108924-00109064 to build him a some sort of composit
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00493-00109065-00109178 harness to support his upper body
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00494-00109179-00109560 otherwise he'd go splat okay thank you
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00495-00109561-00109805 and that's all the time we have so let's
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00496-00109806-00109961 give her another round of applause
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00497-00109963-00110202 [Applause]
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00498-00110203-00110878 [Music]
+z1QGK7ZYnKM-00499-00110879-00111084 you
+z5udX2XevGQ-00000-00000368-00002048 [Music]
+z5udX2XevGQ-00001-00002049-00002250 with that how do you input your
+z5udX2XevGQ-00002-00002251-00002597 calculations for the digester energy
+z5udX2XevGQ-00003-00002598-00002813 heating needed I believe that with a
+z5udX2XevGQ-00004-00002814-00003020 question for Kurt if you have an answer
+z5udX2XevGQ-00005-00003021-00003322 for that one
+z5udX2XevGQ-00006-00003322-00003502 and maybe I don't know if you need
+z5udX2XevGQ-00007-00003503-00003733 clarification or if that is good enough
+z5udX2XevGQ-00008-00003734-00004072 for you sure Thank You Becky yeah I
+z5udX2XevGQ-00009-00004072-00004477 think I can I can answer sufficiently so
+z5udX2XevGQ-00010-00004478-00004977 the question is for the analysis that I
+z5udX2XevGQ-00011-00004978-00005200 presented on the greenhouse gas
+z5udX2XevGQ-00012-00005201-00005490 reductions for the boundary conditions
+z5udX2XevGQ-00013-00005491-00005785 how do we include heating for the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00014-00005786-00006504 digester so good question the analysis
+z5udX2XevGQ-00015-00006505-00006745 that we did was specifically on the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00016-00006745-00007048 greenhouse gases associated with the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00017-00007048-00007281 electrical energy used on the farm and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00018-00007281-00007654 so we did include the parasitic
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00020-00008036-00008371 in our analysis so when it came time to
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00024-00009113-00009319 renewable energy generated the parasitic
+z5udX2XevGQ-00025-00009320-00009588 electrical energy to operate the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00026-00009589-00009927 digester so we did account for that we
+z5udX2XevGQ-00027-00009928-00010152 did it not we did not account for any
+z5udX2XevGQ-00028-00010153-00010420 eating of the digester it was not part
+z5udX2XevGQ-00029-00010421-00010762 of the boundaries of the analysis most
+z5udX2XevGQ-00030-00010763-00010948 the reason why we didn't include it
+z5udX2XevGQ-00031-00010949-00011191 other than it was not within the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00032-00011192-00011310 boundaries the reason is not the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00033-00011311-00011685 boundary it's because the heat of
+z5udX2XevGQ-00034-00011686-00012024 combustion from using the biogas to fuel
+z5udX2XevGQ-00035-00012025-00012223 the engine generator set is harvested
+z5udX2XevGQ-00036-00012224-00012510 and then used to heat the digester and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00037-00012511-00012769 in most cases to about a hundred degrees
+z5udX2XevGQ-00038-00012770-00013249 Fahrenheit and so if that he was not
+z5udX2XevGQ-00039-00013250-00013566 harvested and used and most all if not
+z5udX2XevGQ-00040-00013568-00013846 all cases it's just dumped the
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00050-00016334-00016656 analysis fossil fuel heat avoided by way
+z5udX2XevGQ-00051-00016657-00016693 of
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00053-00016886-00017134 generator set not needed to operate the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00054-00017135-00017392 digester and used for example to operate
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00056-00017813-00018276 any any heat
+z5udX2XevGQ-00057-00018277-00018714 thanks Kurt sure we had another question
+z5udX2XevGQ-00058-00018715-00019373 that says that someone was asking that
+z5udX2XevGQ-00059-00019374-00019707 these like other renewable systems are
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00061-00020029-00020205 back to the grid since the new
+z5udX2XevGQ-00062-00020206-00020358 administration wants to become more
+z5udX2XevGQ-00063-00020359-00020622 reliable on cool can anyone speak to
+z5udX2XevGQ-00064-00020623-00020871 that so I don't know if you or Nick or
+z5udX2XevGQ-00065-00020872-00021138 anybody has any idea if they've felt as
+z5udX2XevGQ-00066-00021139-00021420 though there's been some additional
+z5udX2XevGQ-00067-00021421-00021660 discouraged menteur maybe anything
+z5udX2XevGQ-00068-00021661-00022017 that's changed recently yeah I can give
+z5udX2XevGQ-00069-00022018-00022296 a eggs to our perspective on this
+z5udX2XevGQ-00070-00022297-00022550 certainly the new administration has
+z5udX2XevGQ-00071-00022551-00023124 made supporting poll a priority but I'm
+z5udX2XevGQ-00072-00023125-00023390 not aware of any efforts to discourage
+z5udX2XevGQ-00073-00023391-00024054 biogas or other renewables so any other
+z5udX2XevGQ-00074-00024055-00025131 comments okay I the next question was
+z5udX2XevGQ-00075-00025132-00025458 from Walter and he is interested in
+z5udX2XevGQ-00076-00025459-00025836 about the cooling system from the buy of
+z5udX2XevGQ-00077-00025837-00026009 the last biogas presentation I think
+z5udX2XevGQ-00078-00026010-00026292 that's the absorption chiller so the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00079-00026293-00026499 absorption chillers are a chilling
+z5udX2XevGQ-00080-00026500-00026832 mechanism that takes that that direct
+z5udX2XevGQ-00081-00026833-00027156 burned into IO it's kind of like a
+z5udX2XevGQ-00082-00027157-00027282 chimney and then I go through like a
+z5udX2XevGQ-00083-00027283-00027564 heat exchanger in a way and then it uses
+z5udX2XevGQ-00084-00027564-00027942 that to direct cool a unit and in that
+z5udX2XevGQ-00085-00027943-00028260 particular case we purchased a missing
+z5udX2XevGQ-00086-00028261-00028623 unit from China the technology hasn't
+z5udX2XevGQ-00087-00028624-00028779 been around for a long time they
+z5udX2XevGQ-00088-00028780-00029058 traditional rural gas so typically if
+z5udX2XevGQ-00089-00029058-00029223 you want to buy a pre manufactured
+z5udX2XevGQ-00090-00029224-00029430 system they have them in all sizes and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00091-00029431-00029690 you can get them around the world you
+z5udX2XevGQ-00092-00029691-00029922 just have to modify them to be run on
+z5udX2XevGQ-00093-00029923-00030239 biogas they have not been very they've
+z5udX2XevGQ-00094-00030241-00030474 been pretty easy to implement
+z5udX2XevGQ-00095-00030475-00030675 particularly new ganda because we had
+z5udX2XevGQ-00096-00030676-00031119 some history with people using kerosene
+z5udX2XevGQ-00097-00031120-00031370 coolers and so the chillers were run in
+z5udX2XevGQ-00098-00031372-00031581 the same way but they were the heat was
+z5udX2XevGQ-00099-00031582-00031652 produced from
+z5udX2XevGQ-00100-00031654-00031872 kerosene instead of from the biogas so
+z5udX2XevGQ-00101-00031873-00032133 it's pretty simple the nice thing about
+z5udX2XevGQ-00102-00032133-00032460 it is that the biogas being burned only
+z5udX2XevGQ-00103-00032461-00032649 touches a small part of the chiller
+z5udX2XevGQ-00104-00032650-00032949 itself so if you have hydrogen sulfide
+z5udX2XevGQ-00105-00032950-00033294 or other corrosive components you your
+z5udX2XevGQ-00106-00033295-00033519 gas quality I guess I'm saying is not
+z5udX2XevGQ-00107-00033520-00033840 super important and that is easy to
+z5udX2XevGQ-00108-00033841-00034229 clean to figure that out later all right
+z5udX2XevGQ-00109-00034230-00034508 I'm not seeing a lot of other questions
+z5udX2XevGQ-00110-00034509-00034755 maybe one thing I would like to ask of
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00112-00034942-00035118 lot of you talk touched a little bit on
+z5udX2XevGQ-00113-00035119-00035472 economic I am curious if you have ideas
+z5udX2XevGQ-00114-00035473-00035780 of how we think we could move to more
+z5udX2XevGQ-00115-00035781-00036072 economically sustainable systems or how
+z5udX2XevGQ-00116-00036073-00036345 you think you might pave a path into
+z5udX2XevGQ-00117-00036346-00036564 getting somewhere that we might be able
+z5udX2XevGQ-00118-00036565-00036924 to encourage more people to install
+z5udX2XevGQ-00119-00036925-00037578 digester see about that I can start
+z5udX2XevGQ-00120-00037579-00037815 Becky if you like that's great good sure
+z5udX2XevGQ-00121-00037816-00038190 so interesting question and I would say
+z5udX2XevGQ-00122-00038191-00038610 that we've since you've been working on
+z5udX2XevGQ-00123-00038611-00038853 digestion for a long time we've kind of
+z5udX2XevGQ-00124-00038854-00039237 learned we're where we need to be going
+z5udX2XevGQ-00125-00039238-00039678 and where the opportunities are at least
+z5udX2XevGQ-00126-00039679-00039810 we've learned some of those I would say
+z5udX2XevGQ-00127-00039811-00040203 and through through our work we really
+z5udX2XevGQ-00128-00040204-00040623 kind of concluded that our efforts
+z5udX2XevGQ-00129-00040624-00040926 really need to be focused not as not as
+z5udX2XevGQ-00130-00040927-00041187 much as helping the farms on their
+z5udX2XevGQ-00131-00041188-00041397 digester projects of which which is fun
+z5udX2XevGQ-00132-00041398-00041586 and we get to do that from time to time
+z5udX2XevGQ-00133-00041587-00041874 so that's really really cool but is to
+z5udX2XevGQ-00134-00041875-00042234 make it known to policy makers and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00135-00042235-00042603 others in the state about what these
+z5udX2XevGQ-00136-00042604-00042768 digesters really are doing what they can
+z5udX2XevGQ-00137-00042769-00043263 do and how some of the values for except
+z5udX2XevGQ-00138-00043264-00043422 for example in this case greenhouse gas
+z5udX2XevGQ-00139-00043423-00043665 reductions can be monetized and then
+z5udX2XevGQ-00140-00043666-00043995 really improve and improve the situation
+z5udX2XevGQ-00141-00043996-00044202 so we would end up with more digester
+z5udX2XevGQ-00142-00044203-00044454 course or we're not really very much
+z5udX2XevGQ-00143-00044455-00044706 going down the route about asking for
+z5udX2XevGQ-00144-00044707-00044871 subsidies or anything like that it's
+z5udX2XevGQ-00145-00044872-00044997 more
+z5udX2XevGQ-00146-00044998-00045381 let's develop a business model industry
+z5udX2XevGQ-00147-00045382-00045570 platform that will stand on its own
+z5udX2XevGQ-00148-00045571-00045843 so I've always believed I believed for a
+z5udX2XevGQ-00149-00045844-00045921 long time
+z5udX2XevGQ-00150-00045922-00046164 that we're not going to be like Germany
+z5udX2XevGQ-00151-00046165-00046362 where they get 30 up to 32 cents a
+z5udX2XevGQ-00152-00046363-00046500 kilowatt hour for electricity or
+z5udX2XevGQ-00153-00046501-00046674 whatever the going rate is at this point
+z5udX2XevGQ-00154-00046675-00047016 in time or maybe Denmark where I like
+z5udX2XevGQ-00155-00047017-00047250 them Denmark model better I don't
+z5udX2XevGQ-00156-00047251-00047514 remember all the items that were put in
+z5udX2XevGQ-00157-00047515-00047739 place but the Danish have nine items
+z5udX2XevGQ-00158-00047740-00047925 that they basically put in place that
+z5udX2XevGQ-00159-00047926-00048168 helped move the inter digestion forward
+z5udX2XevGQ-00160-00048169-00048333 to where it is today which is very
+z5udX2XevGQ-00161-00048334-00048627 impressive and essentially the
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00163-00048928-00049113 things other than energy in this in the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00164-00049114-00049518 country like improving water quality and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00165-00049519-00049662 anything that was done to improve water
+z5udX2XevGQ-00166-00049663-00049878 quality that had a digester component
+z5udX2XevGQ-00167-00049879-00050277 that became a incentive for a farm to
+z5udX2XevGQ-00168-00050278-00050511 take advantage of that so there was nine
+z5udX2XevGQ-00169-00050512-00050775 things like that but each little thing
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00171-00051141-00051566 so I like that model myself Great Neck
+z5udX2XevGQ-00172-00051567-00052064 for Mahmoud all right yeah Curt you
+z5udX2XevGQ-00173-00052065-00052212 touch tunnel on a lot of good things
+z5udX2XevGQ-00174-00052213-00052560 they're certainly educating local and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00175-00052561-00052779 state policymakers on all of the the
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00177-00053073-00053385 an effort that AG star continues to try
+z5udX2XevGQ-00178-00053386-00053703 to move forward with and I touched a
+z5udX2XevGQ-00179-00053704-00053972 little bit on my presentation as well as
+z5udX2XevGQ-00180-00053973-00054179 diversifying revenue streams taking
+z5udX2XevGQ-00181-00054180-00054300 advantage of all the benefits that
+z5udX2XevGQ-00182-00054301-00054704 digesters provide energy at this point
+z5udX2XevGQ-00183-00054705-00054956 is not going to be a financial driver
+z5udX2XevGQ-00184-00054957-00055272 for projects so trying to find value
+z5udX2XevGQ-00185-00055273-00055592 from the digestate is certainly an
+z5udX2XevGQ-00186-00055594-00055957 opportunity to help make projects viable
+z5udX2XevGQ-00187-00055958-00056351 absolutely just to chime in maybe in the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00188-00056352-00056507 first slide in my presentation as well
+z5udX2XevGQ-00189-00056508-00056694 that the driver here and certainly in
+z5udX2XevGQ-00190-00056695-00056981 the state of Wisconsin for funding for
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00192-00057195-00057416 renewable energy in that order and that
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+z5udX2XevGQ-00194-00057748-00057987 than one goal using these systems is the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00195-00057988-00058217 only way to have been implemented going
+z5udX2XevGQ-00196-00058219-00058515 forward so bundling that with nutrient
+z5udX2XevGQ-00197-00058516-00058937 export for instance or certainly
+z5udX2XevGQ-00198-00058938-00059219 touching on the regulatory lens to it be
+z5udX2XevGQ-00199-00059220-00059571 it with or be it with the funding or
+z5udX2XevGQ-00200-00059572-00059780 cost shares these are about the only
+z5udX2XevGQ-00201-00059782-00060209 ways to push the technology forward
+z5udX2XevGQ-00202-00060210-00060557 thank you I appreciate everyone's
+z5udX2XevGQ-00203-00060558-00060888 insight on that I I think it'll be a big
+z5udX2XevGQ-00204-00060889-00061116 combination of a number of things I'm
+z5udX2XevGQ-00205-00061116-00061329 hoping in a few years we could do
+z5udX2XevGQ-00206-00061329-00061562 another webinar and give you some new
+z5udX2XevGQ-00207-00061563-00061832 projections of how well things have come
+z5udX2XevGQ-00208-00061833-00062117 so I'm hoping everybody out there and
+z5udX2XevGQ-00209-00062119-00062325 those presenters and others continue the
+z5udX2XevGQ-00210-00062326-00062460 great work that they shared with us
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+z5ecSM2YJGI-00000-00000475-00000875 YouTube comment Christopher Palmer Brown
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00001-00000876-00001535 writes yes oh no yes no you're going to
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00002-00001536-00002005 unlock an old school Monster X yes
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00003-00002005-00002368 now I will take over
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00004-00002369-00002509 something
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00005-00002510-00002818 no you don't know what you've done but
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00006-00002819-00003076 it's certainly entertaining Pro Monster
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00007-00003077-00003347 Island you're so ripe for that taking
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00008-00003347-00003822 year soon it will be monster Exile and
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00009-00003823-00004181 excellent excellent there you you get it
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00010-00004182-00004553 cause I'm going to conquer it hey could
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00011-00004554-00004949 you not conquer Monster Island and who
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00012-00004950-00005359 among every man is going to stop me yeah
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00013-00005360-00005729 why the Coalition of the Kaiju of course
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+z5ecSM2YJGI-00015-00005994-00006131 the 2ks because we've essentially been
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00016-00006132-00006311 telling the exact same joke for like 15
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+z5ecSM2YJGI-00021-00007409-00007675 better watch yourself
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+z5ecSM2YJGI-00026-00008628-00009810 conquering oh yeah
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00027-00009811-00010060 what happened you were acting like a
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00028-00010061-00010246 major dunk melon honey and you slammed
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00029-00010247-00010421 your massively massive Cabeza on an
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00030-00010422-00010631 unusually low-hanging exit sign did I
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00031-00010632-00010906 conquer anything what do you think honey
+z5ecSM2YJGI-00032-00010907-00011186 well
+z7ScgUESyOg-00000-00000000-00000173 hello and welcome back to another
+z7ScgUESyOg-00001-00000174-00000515 episode of one starter I'm MHT together
+z7ScgUESyOg-00002-00000516-00000911 with video chat but yes we are back with
+z7ScgUESyOg-00003-00000911-00001337 another HR hunt experience so yeah on my
+z7ScgUESyOg-00004-00001338-00001520 back here is a great sort it's no longer
+z7ScgUESyOg-00005-00001521-00001876 a bowl I figured that with the support
+z7ScgUESyOg-00006-00001877-00002315 from the people on tumblr yeah I guess
+z7ScgUESyOg-00007-00002316-00002438 I'll stick up the great sword for a bit
+z7ScgUESyOg-00008-00002439-00002813 longer edda I'm just completely wearing
+z7ScgUESyOg-00009-00002814-00003074 light really scrubby equipment right now
+z7ScgUESyOg-00010-00003075-00003542 for armor so I'm old crap no we both
+z7ScgUESyOg-00011-00003543-00003917 forgot hot drinks right yeah oh my gosh
+z7ScgUESyOg-00012-00003918-00004403 let's get out here first oh dear but I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00013-00004404-00004892 don't think oh there's one hello LOL oh
+z7ScgUESyOg-00014-00004893-00005272 oh i didn't notice us oh you did hey
+z7ScgUESyOg-00015-00005273-00005540 grits off to the face right so I'm just
+z7ScgUESyOg-00016-00005541-00005663 gonna try and listen to what you guys
+z7ScgUESyOg-00017-00005664-00006140 have down there and try that again so
+z7ScgUESyOg-00018-00006141-00006304 I'm just gonna try all that you guys
+z7ScgUESyOg-00019-00006305-00006623 have told me to do and uh I'll do my
+z7ScgUESyOg-00020-00006623-00007251 best so I'm gonna take less risks and
+z7ScgUESyOg-00021-00007252-00007594 right just
+z7ScgUESyOg-00022-00007595-00008103 okay this guys getting a bit angry it's
+z7ScgUESyOg-00023-00008104-00008377 actually at range already so yeah the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00024-00008378-00008520 reason why I'm not making a new Harbor
+z7ScgUESyOg-00025-00008521-00008685 said yes because I find that it's gonna
+z7ScgUESyOg-00026-00008686-00009071 be a waste of money I'm just going to
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+z7ScgUESyOg-00028-00009449-00009820 sets the we go underneath so they should
+z7ScgUESyOg-00029-00009821-00010170 be able to help me across the rest of
+z7ScgUESyOg-00030-00010171-00010987 high rank sorry right so I'm just gonna
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+z7ScgUESyOg-00032-00011218-00012122 and this ow jajaja nice
+z7ScgUESyOg-00033-00012123-00012545 oh ouch that his dad had to go huge
+z7ScgUESyOg-00034-00012546-00013087 chunk of my help
+z7ScgUESyOg-00035-00013088-00013357 you may produce something that's real
+z7ScgUESyOg-00036-00013358-00013638 yeah yeah we did it it looks pretty
+z7ScgUESyOg-00037-00013640-00014131 broken right just gonna go in for hits
+z7ScgUESyOg-00038-00014132-00014974 cash and get out of there this is quite
+z7ScgUESyOg-00039-00014975-00015205 tense as usual and it's like advocate
+z7ScgUESyOg-00040-00015206-00015688 that as it gets to go go sit over I'm it
+z7ScgUESyOg-00041-00015688-00015874 I mean maybe I was a bad choice of me to
+z7ScgUESyOg-00042-00015875-00016197 try like an ogre single-handedly while
+z7ScgUESyOg-00043-00016199-00016423 attempting a method for like one of the
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+z7ScgUESyOg-00045-00017147-00017370 like she wants the boy oh you same thing
+z7ScgUESyOg-00046-00017371-00017764 we're doing fine oh you dropped
+z7ScgUESyOg-00047-00017765-00018226 something hey I got something a great
+z7ScgUESyOg-00048-00018227-00018562 jaggi height plus all right where's easy
+z7ScgUESyOg-00049-00018563-00019114 is he here should be yes Oh nope nope
+z7ScgUESyOg-00050-00019115-00019711 not this way the other way yeah yeah I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00051-00019712-00019963 kind of how do we get there the caves
+z7ScgUESyOg-00052-00019964-00020545 yeah particular caves ah yeah it's
+z7ScgUESyOg-00053-00020546-00020989 probably true 3d caves and this way stay
+z7ScgUESyOg-00054-00020990-00021175 away up here
+z7ScgUESyOg-00055-00021176-00021613 uh cats it's gonna avoid them by la la
+z7ScgUESyOg-00056-00021614-00022105 la yep up here is it gonna sleep yeah
+z7ScgUESyOg-00057-00022106-00022408 he's going to sleep right here comes the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00058-00022409-00023355 level three charged to the head right
+z7ScgUESyOg-00059-00023356-00023653 just gotta decide Rome it here's the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00060-00023654-00024022 other Jackie stuff shake it up or
+z7ScgUESyOg-00061-00024023-00024769 annoyed you I'll give me 10 today I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00062-00024770-00025072 gotta just quickly caught up no leave me
+z7ScgUESyOg-00063-00025073-00025449 alone Jackie
+z7ScgUESyOg-00064-00025450-00025877 Oh dandy i eat it yeah oh the other
+z7ScgUESyOg-00065-00025879-00026793 doggies you gotta pee
+z7ScgUESyOg-00066-00026794-00027073 okay that was complete with oh my gosh
+z7ScgUESyOg-00067-00027074-00027532 Oh getting your tail oh damn it the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00068-00027533-00028139 other one give it they will be right
+z7ScgUESyOg-00069-00028139-00028481 yeah that's going to pop the seats it
+z7ScgUESyOg-00070-00028482-00028618 sounded like a very good situation to be
+z7ScgUESyOg-00071-00028619-00029017 in come
+z7ScgUESyOg-00072-00029018-00029526 they do it you do it
+z7ScgUESyOg-00073-00029527-00029911 they don't rent off yep hello there we
+z7ScgUESyOg-00074-00029912-00030685 go nice not bad eight right maybe I'm
+z7ScgUESyOg-00075-00030686-00031177 getting the hang out go away juggy are
+z7ScgUESyOg-00076-00031178-00031708 you not gonna carve it all right oh wow
+z7ScgUESyOg-00077-00031709-00032204 oh oh my good as a go where are you damn
+z7ScgUESyOg-00078-00032205-00033036 little things ah annoying pesky little
+z7ScgUESyOg-00079-00033037-00033548 buggers cup him up as well cuz I swipe
+z7ScgUESyOg-00080-00033549-00033952 the hell not Jackie skill plus I believe
+z7ScgUESyOg-00081-00033953-00034165 I may actually need one of the items I'm
+z7ScgUESyOg-00082-00034166-00034652 sure
+z7ScgUESyOg-00083-00034653-00035311 is it it yep it's dead tough can even
+z7ScgUESyOg-00084-00035312-00035476 find bored oh you might need those right
+z7ScgUESyOg-00085-00035477-00035980 oh yes and you did oh he's here okay
+z7ScgUESyOg-00086-00035981-00036418 yeah he's up you shower entrance better
+z7ScgUESyOg-00087-00036419-00036705 not come right let me just pop up first
+z7ScgUESyOg-00088-00036706-00037054 and then I'll hit over and I don't care
+z7ScgUESyOg-00089-00037055-00037255 visitor entrance or not I'm going London
+z7ScgUESyOg-00090-00037256-00038263 entrance ah never mind howdy BAM
+z7ScgUESyOg-00091-00038264-00038504 jolly is significantly easier to deal
+z7ScgUESyOg-00092-00038505-00038801 with this moves are much more readable
+z7ScgUESyOg-00093-00038802-00039679 and uh yeah we store
+z7ScgUESyOg-00094-00039680-00040450 one fish sorry oh ah damn i try to help
+z7ScgUESyOg-00095-00040451-00041341 don't say I mean like oh you're lagging
+z7ScgUESyOg-00096-00041342-00041611 a little bit I can see that yeah my
+z7ScgUESyOg-00097-00041612-00042378 Jackie just telephone all right Jackie
+z7ScgUESyOg-00098-00042379-00042817 pretty good here that new oh not this
+z7ScgUESyOg-00099-00042818-00043834 one is rotted it's running away he's
+z7ScgUESyOg-00100-00043835-00044287 gonna pump another potion as well right
+z7ScgUESyOg-00101-00044288-00045019 what's he up to oh dear Oh a soothing
+z7ScgUESyOg-00102-00045020-00045379 music it's exciting isn't it didn't
+z7ScgUESyOg-00103-00045380-00045561 think this is a very present kind of
+z7ScgUESyOg-00104-00045562-00045879 yeah
+z7ScgUESyOg-00105-00045880-00046630 Kali for back up again come on by the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00106-00046631-00047786 Jaguars a pre-taped emsc
+z7ScgUESyOg-00107-00047787-00048257 oh my gosh 1000 counting hope this is
+z7ScgUESyOg-00108-00048258-00048490 real bro
+z7ScgUESyOg-00109-00048491-00049325 no go run away cut this jug yet anything
+z7ScgUESyOg-00110-00049326-00049833 look like a fake he's not paying
+z7ScgUESyOg-00111-00049834-00050090 attention to me at all so you can find
+z7ScgUESyOg-00112-00050091-00050292 phone as well yep you get QJ girls to
+z7ScgUESyOg-00113-00050293-00050812 get your whatever you people ah I guess
+z7ScgUESyOg-00114-00050813-00051198 nothing
+z7ScgUESyOg-00115-00051199-00051719 debit
+z7ScgUESyOg-00116-00051720-00051880 why
+z7ScgUESyOg-00117-00051882-00052607 snack there we go
+z7ScgUESyOg-00118-00052608-00053675 oh sorry I hit you there catching box I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00119-00053676-00053923 see okay I think it went back to the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00120-00053924-00054179 period asleep again o Kings Guerra
+z7ScgUESyOg-00121-00054180-00054581 interesting oh honey it dead ready why
+z7ScgUESyOg-00122-00054582-00054737 are you getting everything I need it's
+z7ScgUESyOg-00123-00054738-00055199 called the desires answer I guess we go
+z7ScgUESyOg-00124-00055200-00055509 back this way and then go up the caves
+z7ScgUESyOg-00125-00055510-00055937 again which way was it to the caves
+z7ScgUESyOg-00126-00055938-00056726 display I suppose this way yeah Oh way
+z7ScgUESyOg-00127-00056727-00056961 he's not he's not sleeping he's still
+z7ScgUESyOg-00128-00056962-00057297 moving wait you say even the place
+z7ScgUESyOg-00129-00057298-00057568 winner he's not at the sleeping area
+z7ScgUESyOg-00130-00057569-00058219 that's where the other painter daughters
+z7ScgUESyOg-00131-00058220-00058676 hello hello I got you aren't she has a
+z7ScgUESyOg-00132-00058677-00059036 spotless hear you yeah but in the man
+z7ScgUESyOg-00133-00059037-00059385 that's gonna like I be on a rocket we're
+z7ScgUESyOg-00134-00059386-00059624 going to come closer hope you dance here
+z7ScgUESyOg-00135-00059625-00060056 comes ease yeah well you ready hasn't
+z7ScgUESyOg-00136-00060057-00060541 noticed me Cheers oh he's army
+z7ScgUESyOg-00137-00060542-00061077 smeg right by the way he's gonna roll
+z7ScgUESyOg-00138-00061078-00061725 yet oh nice sorry no my cat blew me up
+z7ScgUESyOg-00139-00061726-00062465 oh when did the jugular booty stop it I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00140-00062466-00063063 want your head damn it didn't get a
+z7ScgUESyOg-00141-00063064-00063513 charge time to get the jugular yep doing
+z7ScgUESyOg-00142-00063514-00064128 that now this should be going to sleep
+z7ScgUESyOg-00143-00064129-00064752 so I'm pretty shiny it like solid jaggi
+z7ScgUESyOg-00144-00064753-00065058 stuff to cross the jug the great Jackie
+z7ScgUESyOg-00145-00065059-00065334 said you only need jaggesh kill plants
+z7ScgUESyOg-00146-00065335-00065601 or something yeah just collecting those
+z7ScgUESyOg-00147-00065602-00066180 as well so why not and this hunt is to
+z7ScgUESyOg-00148-00066181-00066441 be going quite well so Chad jinx it yet
+z7ScgUESyOg-00149-00066442-00067086 but uh yeah into the caves and out from
+z7ScgUESyOg-00150-00067087-00067528 the other side
+z7ScgUESyOg-00151-00067529-00067887 what is on mushrooms here that's like so
+z7ScgUESyOg-00152-00067888-00068236 red I gonna come soon oh wait you went
+z7ScgUESyOg-00153-00068237-00068457 wait there's a faster way there Ian
+z7ScgUESyOg-00154-00068458-00068982 right I totally didn't know this this
+z7ScgUESyOg-00155-00068983-00069501 way you can go ahead I mean I'm fine no
+z7ScgUESyOg-00156-00069502-00069721 you should do you're clever don't know
+z7ScgUESyOg-00157-00069722-00070048 what the photography yeah my clothes now
+z7ScgUESyOg-00158-00070049-00070703 goes where
+z7ScgUESyOg-00159-00070704-00071112 oh dear oh haha
+z7ScgUESyOg-00160-00071113-00071349 man okay that was quite satisfying I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00161-00071350-00071868 guess yes down here nice just gonna cuff
+z7ScgUESyOg-00162-00071869-00072410 the jug you first
+z7ScgUESyOg-00163-00072411-00072627 and then there's a junkie a smaller
+z7ScgUESyOg-00164-00072628-00073119 jugular that's disappearing like
+z7ScgUESyOg-00165-00073120-00073791 something I guess
+z7ScgUESyOg-00166-00073792-00074136 right
+z7ScgUESyOg-00167-00074137-00075419 it's wrong to dump x.25 down out there
+z7ScgUESyOg-00168-00075420-00075839 Captain Jack you as well filet we're
+z7ScgUESyOg-00169-00075840-00076067 going on a huge Jackie calling
+z7ScgUESyOg-00170-00076068-00077051 experience
+z7ScgUESyOg-00171-00077052-00077686 then freakin time oh sure press compete
+z7ScgUESyOg-00172-00077687-00078011 okay that wasn't so bad so hopefully I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00173-00078012-00078185 have enough materials to craft the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00174-00078186-00078528 jockey set and I wouldn't be like you
+z7ScgUESyOg-00175-00078529-00078915 know a piece of walking kick for the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00176-00078916-00079279 ball oh that's quite a lot of stuff to
+z7ScgUESyOg-00177-00079280-00079787 shining charms Wow let's see what do
+z7ScgUESyOg-00178-00079788-00079921 they give
+z7ScgUESyOg-00179-00079922-00080480 KO what one point on KO just one and
+z7ScgUESyOg-00180-00080481-00080795 that's it my gosh this is pathetic huh
+z7ScgUESyOg-00181-00080796-00081281 okay wow I've got nothing to say oh my
+z7ScgUESyOg-00182-00081282-00081527 gosh no it's really the the most
+z7ScgUESyOg-00183-00081528-00081842 pathetic charm I've ever come across one
+z7ScgUESyOg-00184-00081843-00082265 Q and one smart okay fair enough right
+z7ScgUESyOg-00185-00082266-00082589 so here there we go I'll first not the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00186-00082590-00082832 first time in our second hiring hunt but
+z7ScgUESyOg-00187-00082833-00083057 the first one with me using a great so
+z7ScgUESyOg-00188-00083058-00083219 what it didn't turn out as badly this
+z7ScgUESyOg-00189-00083220-00083477 time as competitive there's no go on so
+z7ScgUESyOg-00190-00083478-00083669 but then again is it oh come on was
+z7ScgUESyOg-00191-00083670-00084026 actually low rank so I I don't know I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00192-00084027-00084248 really don't know appreciate the
+z7ScgUESyOg-00193-00084249-00084428 difference between a ginger girl and
+z7ScgUESyOg-00194-00084429-00084974 like a shaggy yeah well in any case so
+z7ScgUESyOg-00195-00084975-00085121 thank you all so much for watching I
+z7ScgUESyOg-00196-00085122-00085328 hope you have enjoyed and a like comment
+z7ScgUESyOg-00197-00085329-00085550 subscribe to all the socials this has
+z7ScgUESyOg-00198-00085551-00085765 been damaged geek and in the Shang
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+zrCWeQiKJFY-00002-00001244-00001445 I see
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00003-00001446-00001648 four board members and I'm here so I'll
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00004-00001650-00001798 call to order
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00005-00001800-00002051 the Green Mountain care boards hearing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00006-00002052-00002441 of March 2nd 2023
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00007-00002442-00002747 thank you all for being here today we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00008-00002748-00002975 have just two real substantive agenda
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00009-00002976-00003293 items the minutes from last week and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00010-00003294-00003490 then an update in deliberation relating
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00011-00003492-00003719 to one care Vermont's fiscal year 23
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00012-00003720-00004019 budget resubmission with a focus on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00013-00004020-00004247 Primary Care payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00014-00004248-00004504 which will be presented by Marissa
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00015-00004505-00004679 melamed our health policy associate
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00016-00004680-00004859 director here at the board and arrest
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00017-00004860-00005083 McCracken and our staff attorney
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00018-00005084-00005302 first I'll turn it to miss Barrett for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00019-00005303-00005506 our executive director's report
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00020-00005507-00005704 thank you Mr chair
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00021-00005705-00005891 when you um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00022-00005892-00006202 education on our press release for our
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00023-00006203-00006569 meeting next week it was uh incorrectly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00024-00006570-00006820 listed for one of our presentations that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00025-00006822-00007025 we'll be hearing um next week from
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00026-00007026-00007283 Springfield hospital we actually had it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00027-00007284-00007601 listed as the FY 22 actuals that they'd
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00028-00007602-00007937 be presenting to us but to clarify it is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00029-00007938-00008263 Springfield Hospital update on FY
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00030-00008264-00008585 23q1 financial performance and we have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00031-00008586-00008801 adjusted the press release so I wanted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00032-00008802-00009251 to clarify for next week's meeting the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00033-00009252-00009383 correct title
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00034-00009384-00009749 also want to remind folks about an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00035-00009750-00009959 ongoing well actually two public
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00036-00009960-00010342 comments that are open one is ongoing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00037-00010343-00010583 regarding the all-pair model and the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00038-00010584-00010805 next potential model if folks have any
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00039-00010806-00011051 comments on that please send your
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00040-00011052-00011273 comments our way we would share those
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00041-00011274-00011578 with our colleagues at agency of Human
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00042-00011579-00011753 Services in the governor's office as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00043-00011754-00011981 they are leading the implementation and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00044-00011982-00012185 the work on the all pair model
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00045-00012186-00012491 also want to remind everyone that we're
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00046-00012492-00012791 accepting public comment on the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00047-00012792-00013001 information that was presented last week
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00048-00013002-00013536 on the FY 2017 UV MMC enforcement action
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00049-00013537-00013936 we have a potential vote scheduled for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00050-00013937-00014255 next Wednesday March 8th so please share
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00051-00014256-00014465 your comments to the board so they can
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00052-00014466-00014807 consider them in time before that vote
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00053-00014808-00015029 and with that I will turn it back to you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00054-00015030-00015244 Mr chair
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00055-00015245-00015443 thank you very much
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00056-00015444-00015635 um we'll turn to the uh meeting minutes
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00057-00015636-00015929 from February 22nd 2023
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00058-00015930-00016877 is there a motion to approve the minutes
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00059-00016878-00017357 the board discussion
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00060-00017358-00017579 all those in favor of approving the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00061-00017580-00017758 minutes from February 22nd please say
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00062-00017759-00017879 aye
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00063-00017880-00018077 aye
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00064-00018078-00018155 aye
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00065-00018156-00018353 and the minutes are unanimously approved
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00066-00018354-00018719 from February 22nd 2023.
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00067-00018720-00018905 um and just for the record I have a hard
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00068-00018906-00019091 stop at five o'clock today I don't think
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00069-00019092-00019235 we'll go that long
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00070-00019236-00019463 um but we'll try and make sure we're
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00071-00019464-00019625 observing that because I actually have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00072-00019626-00019793 to to go
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00073-00019794-00019907 um so with that I'll turn to miss
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00074-00019908-00020225 melamed and Mr McCracken
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00075-00020226-00020464 thank you chair Foster good afternoon
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00076-00020465-00020771 just please hold a minute while I uh set
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00077-00020772-00023147 my windows up to present
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00078-00023148-00023221 s
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00079-00023222-00023819 okay are you able to see the slides
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00080-00023820-00023986 not yet
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00081-00023987-00024263 not yet okay
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00082-00024264-00024514 uh hang on just a minute there it looks
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00083-00024515-00024647 like it's going through on my end so I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00084-00024648-00026993 might have to do it a different way
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00085-00026994-00028229 my apologies
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00086-00028230-00028535 they appear now Marissa
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00087-00028536-00029351 great
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00088-00029352-00029452 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00089-00029454-00029651 can you just hold for one minute sorry
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00090-00029652-00029831 I'm having a technical problem just give
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00091-00029832-00030167 me a minute
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00093-00034500-00034727 sorry about this I'm having a problem
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00094-00034728-00034859 it's not working the way I expected
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00095-00034860-00035009 Kristen would you mind
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00096-00035010-00035549 presenting them on your end
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00097-00035550-00038321 thank you so much
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00098-00038322-00038543 okay can everybody see that now sorry
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00099-00038544-00038735 about that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00100-00038736-00038867 great
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00101-00038868-00039035 all right so again my name is Marissa
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00102-00039036-00039209 melamed associate director for Health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00103-00039210-00039371 Systems policy I'm joined by Russ
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00104-00039372-00039646 McCracken staff attorney and we're going
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00105-00039647-00039893 to talk to you today about the January
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00106-00039894-00040205 30th budget resubmission from one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00107-00040206-00040439 Vermont specifically about the impact of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00108-00040440-00040577 the Blue Cross Blue Shield Vermont
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00109-00040578-00040967 withdrawal on Primary Care payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00110-00040968-00041729 next slide please
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00111-00041730-00041902 all right maybe the internet's just a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00112-00041903-00042059 little slow today looks like it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00113-00042060-00042311 working so here's the context or the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00114-00042312-00042496 background Blue Cross Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00115-00042497-00042796 announced on December 20th that it did
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00116-00042797-00043024 not plan to continue participation with
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00117-00043025-00043373 one care in fiscal year 23. this was
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00118-00043374-00043645 just one day on 12 21
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00119-00043646-00044002 before the board vote on the on the one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00120-00044003-00044135 care budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00121-00044136-00044279 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00122-00044280-00044561 the uh we were notified by one Care on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00123-00044562-00044837 1221 of this change uh the notification
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00124-00044838-00045017 at the time left an open door for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00125-00045018-00045365 negotiations to resume so this was uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00126-00045366-00045580 left is a is a bit of an unknown when
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00127-00045581-00045911 the board uh deliberated on on this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00128-00045912-00046127 budget in December
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00129-00046128-00046318 um so the Green Mountain care boards
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00130-00046319-00046552 1221 vote included a requirement that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00131-00046553-00046751 one care resubmit their budget by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00132-00046752-00047117 January 30th 2023. that guidance
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00133-00047118-00047327 specifically required that one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00134-00047328-00047549 reflect the budget assumptions at this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00135-00047550-00047746 time on the effects of the withdrawal of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00136-00047747-00047945 Blue Cross Blue Shield from one CARE
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00137-00047946-00048143 program so we knew when they resubmitted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00138-00048144-00048424 this would be something of an interim uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00139-00048425-00048689 resubmission that it was a sort of best
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00140-00048690-00048751 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00141-00048752-00049037 uh guest of those particular components
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00142-00049038-00049199 of Blue Cross Blue Shield but that it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00143-00049200-00049543 would not be a final budget for FY 23.
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00144-00049544-00049907 that final budget is due on March 31st
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00145-00049908-00050155 along with any budget amendment request
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00146-00050156-00050483 uh from one care to adjust the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00147-00050484-00050740 originally approved budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00148-00050741-00050945 so this this interim budget is the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00149-00050946-00051149 budget we have before us today this is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00150-00051150-00051376 the information we have to date to um to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00151-00051377-00051502 discuss
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00152-00051503-00051754 not the final budget go to the next
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00153-00051755-00052037 slide please
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00154-00052038-00052246 so we have received some public comment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00155-00052247-00052607 on this issue the public comments just
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00156-00052608-00052780 to summarize they expressed concerns
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00157-00052782-00052937 about the impact that the Blue Cross
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00158-00052938-00053141 Blue Shield withdrawal from one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00159-00053141-00053303 we'll have on Vermont's payment reform
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00160-00053304-00053507 efforts and on Primary Care Providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00161-00053508-00053729 this includes loss of fixed monthly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00162-00053729-00053873 payments for Blue Cross Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00163-00053874-00054041 lives to Independent Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00164-00054041-00054191 practices through one cares
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00165-00054191-00054449 comprehensive payment reform or CPR
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00166-00054450-00054541 program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00167-00054541-00054904 reduced alignment in payer programs such
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00168-00054905-00055126 as quality measures and goals reduce
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00169-00055127-00055282 population Health Management and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00170-00055283-00055480 preventive care initiatives and loss of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00171-00055482-00055811 value-based incentive payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00172-00055812-00055985 also I would want to acknowledge there's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00173-00055986-00056254 been some press coverage and legislative
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00174-00056255-00056573 testimony taken on this issue as well
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00175-00056574-00056830 next slide please
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00176-00056832-00057088 so overall to summarize the withdrawal
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00177-00057089-00057275 the impacts of the withdrawal glucosper
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00178-00057276-00057509 shields in the one CARE program there is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00179-00057510-00057737 a reduction in lives that are tied to an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00180-00057738-00057929 ACO cost and quality accountability
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00181-00057929-00058216 framework there's also a reduction in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00182-00058217-00058511 risk and opportunity for shared savings
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00183-00058512-00058744 there's a reduction in population Health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00184-00058745-00059009 Management per member per month or phm
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00185-00059010-00059297 pmpm payments that are committed to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00186-00059298-00059465 primary care providers in the one Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00187-00059466-00059711 Network and there's a reduction in six
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00188-00059712-00059885 payments to Independent Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00189-00059886-00060029 Providers through the comprehensive
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00190-00060029-00060359 payment reform GPR program and a loss of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00191-00060360-00060826 the fixed prospective payment pilot
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00192-00060827-00060988 we'll talk a little bit more about each
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00193-00060989-00061241 of these uh in the in the following
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00194-00061241-00061516 slides so you can go to the next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00195-00061517-00061847 uh so reduction in lives tied to an ACL
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00196-00061848-00061973 cost and quality accountability
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00197-00061974-00062213 framework here's just an overview it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00198-00062214-00062423 uh more than 30 reduction from the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00199-00062424-00062669 original budget so it is significant
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00200-00062670-00062915 it's approximately 88 000 attributed
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00201-00062916-00063071 lives budget for Blue Cross Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00202-00063072-00063263 I'm using approximate and rounded
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00203-00063264-00063587 numbers in this presentation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00204-00063588-00064085 um because the budgeted uh the budgeted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00205-00064086-00064325 amounts are are tied to an estimate so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00206-00064326-00064492 we we rounded it off the budgeted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00207-00064494-00064661 amounts just for illustrative purposes
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00208-00064662-00064835 this is not an exact number that you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00209-00064836-00065092 will find in in one cares budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00210-00065094-00065188 submission
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00211-00065189-00065694 an approximation as well it is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00212-00065695-00065956 471.3 million dollars in total cost of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00213-00065957-00066173 care including fixed prospective payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00214-00066174-00066449 and fpp in an ACL Arrangement so the bar
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00215-00066450-00066605 chart there is just showing you over
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00216-00066606-00066731 time
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00217-00066732-00066953 um the green sorry it's tiny is the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00218-00066954-00067109 fixed perspective payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00219-00067110-00067415 um blue is is fee for service so you can
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00220-00067416-00067499 see
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00221-00067500-00067805 um the kind of the impact of that from
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00222-00067806-00068021 the original least submitted budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00223-00068022-00068353 which is the second to last bar
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00224-00068354-00069467 next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00225-00069468-00069761 Regional budget one care anticipated an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00226-00069762-00070031 increase in the risk sharing arrangement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00227-00070032-00070229 for for Blue Cross Blue Shield so that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00228-00070230-00070529 will not not materialize without that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00229-00070530-00070697 Pro without Blue Cross being in a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00230-00070698-00070894 contract with one care so there's less
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00231-00070895-00071141 opportunity for for shared savings or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00232-00071142-00071356 and shared risk in the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00233-00071357-00071603 in this revised budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00234-00071604-00072029 slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00235-00072030-00072191 okay so these next two have the biggest
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00236-00072192-00072431 impact on on primary care and I and I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00237-00072432-00072526 read these I'm not going to read it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00238-00072527-00072682 again so we can just go to the next
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00239-00072683-00072838 slide and I'll walk you through what
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00240-00072839-00073144 that looks like
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00241-00073145-00073403 for Primary Care providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00242-00073404-00073619 so this is a problem that's caused by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00243-00073620-00073763 one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00244-00073764-00073955 and Blue Cross Blue Shield failure to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00245-00073956-00074213 reach an agreement for 2023. Primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00246-00074214-00074417 Care Providers suffer the most immediate
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00247-00074418-00074519 impact
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00248-00074520-00074693 of this failure of one care and Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00249-00074694-00074921 Cross to negotiate a contract because
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00250-00074922-00075094 the contract was meant to provide for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00251-00075095-00075244 direct investment in primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00252-00075245-00075431 providers in addition to fee for service
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00253-00075432-00075737 payments so they're 30 or greater than
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00254-00075738-00075923 30 fewer lives and fewer Health Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00255-00075924-00076109 dollars in a value-based Arrangement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00256-00076110-00076306 where payment is tied to Quality
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00257-00076307-00076656 outcomes and total cost of care targets
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00258-00076657-00077032 not only does the money come out of a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00259-00077033-00077171 value-based risk Arrangement where
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00260-00077172-00077315 providers share in the savings and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00261-00077316-00077476 losses but Investments are being made
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00262-00077477-00077632 through this model in primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00263-00077633-00077885 providers the system is relying on to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00264-00077886-00078119 coordinate and manage care before people
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00265-00078120-00078335 end up in the Ed and hospital inpatient
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00266-00078336-00078521 for avoidable issues
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00267-00078522-00078947 so to to make that clear it's not just
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00268-00078948-00079217 that the payments revert from a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00269-00079218-00079355 value-based arrangement to fee for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00270-00079356-00079462 service but there was actually
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00271-00079463-00079619 additional Investments being made in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00272-00079620-00079781 these providers through this agreement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00273-00079782-00080123 and that's a loss that that you don't
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00274-00080124-00080297 get back when you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00275-00080298-00080656 um remove these lives from the program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00276-00080657-00080855 uh Investments to strengthen primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00277-00080856-00081082 care including providing resources to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00278-00081083-00081281 expand capacity and existing practices
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00279-00081282-00081550 and to recruit additional providers is a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00280-00081551-00081803 key consideration for ACL budget review
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00281-00081804-00082019 I mean so the intent of today's meeting
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00282-00082020-00082217 is to discuss how the withdrawal of Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00283-00082218-00082397 Cross Blue Shield affects the ACLS
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00284-00082398-00082606 budget as it is designed to support
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00285-00082607-00082853 primary care and what if any remedies
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00286-00082854-00082979 are available to the Green Mountain care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00287-00082980-00083237 board and the ACO as we consider the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00288-00083238-00083519 revised budget so I'll describe how the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00289-00083520-00083723 arrangement is supposed to work on the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00290-00083724-00084203 next slide that you can go to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00291-00084204-00084388 so the withdrawal Blue Cross Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00292-00084389-00084665 causes a reduction in the phm PM PM
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00293-00084666-00084832 payments that are committed to Primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00294-00084833-00085000 Care providers in the one Care Network
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00295-00085001-00085165 so here's how
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00296-00085166-00085487 uh pH and pmpm payments are based on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00297-00085488-00085697 attribution the function of attribution
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00298-00085698-00085894 for each attributed life the payer
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00299-00085895-00086159 commits to a pmpm payment and one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00300-00086160-00086476 commits to a pmpm payment note all of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00301-00086477-00086632 this goes to Providers none of this is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00302-00086633-00086932 for administrative costs
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00303-00086933-00087100 um attribution is based on an agreement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00304-00087101-00087262 between one care and the payer so to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00305-00087263-00087394 understand who those lives are that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00306-00087395-00087532 you're tying these payments to you have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00307-00087533-00087688 to have an agreement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00308-00087689-00087911 um with a payer
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00309-00087912-00088168 um and and their member well for their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00310-00088169-00088325 members
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00311-00088326-00088571 um so PM the PM PM is a match um that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00312-00088572-00088715 word's a little confusing it's not a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00313-00088716-00088888 matches and they're equal but basically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00314-00088889-00089200 the um the payer says we'll put in a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00315-00089201-00089405 certain amount and then one care says
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00316-00089406-00089687 they'll put in a certain amount so it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00317-00089688-00089926 a match of 325 from the payer and then a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00318-00089927-00090088 dollar fifty from one care which is a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00319-00090089-00090449 base payment and a dollar from one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00320-00090450-00090676 which is a potential bonus there's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00321-00090677-00090893 another aspect here which is that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00322-00090894-00091079 Primary Care Providers also pay into an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00323-00091080-00091253 accountability pool which covers their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00324-00091254-00091571 portion of any risk they pay the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00325-00091572-00091888 equivalent of 150 PM pm which they can
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00326-00091889-00092105 earn back so this essentially leaves 325
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00327-00092106-00092381 as their monthly PM PM base but they
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00328-00092382-00092549 have the opportunity to earn more if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00329-00092550-00092831 they meet the reporting and quality
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00330-00092832-00093082 requirements
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00331-00093083-00093371 so absent the payer contract the money
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00332-00093372-00093599 budgeted by one care for the pmpms is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00333-00093600-00093826 not tied to any attributed lives and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00334-00093827-00093988 therefore those lives are not included
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00335-00093989-00094138 in the cost and quality accountability
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00336-00094139-00094432 framework of one care and one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00337-00094433-00094906 doesn't get any data on those lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00338-00094907-00095206 can go to the next slide this slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00339-00095207-00095362 illustrates the same point just with
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00340-00095363-00095711 example data the pair side of the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00341-00095712-00095962 revenue which is in blue the one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00342-00095963-00096179 Revenue which is in green gets you to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00343-00096180-00096341 the total amount that that could
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00344-00096342-00096635 potentially go to population Health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00345-00096636-00096856 Management pmpm payments which is orange
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00346-00096857-00097043 again it's a function of attributed
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00347-00097044-00097288 lives and note that the table's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00348-00097289-00097468 illustrative data based on a rounded
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00349-00097469-00097661 average attribution these are not exact
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00350-00097662-00097859 numbers so you could take that rounded
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00351-00097860-00098171 attribution times it by 12 to get member
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00352-00098172-00098609 months you see that with the the payer
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00353-00098610-00098956 Revenue portion is three at 325 gives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00354-00098957-00099287 you the you know potential payer Revenue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00355-00099288-00099455 um for for the one care side there's a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00356-00099456-00099659 Min and a Max based on the base or their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00357-00099660-00099911 potential bonus that they can earn gets
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00358-00099912-00100049 you to the total but if you take those
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00359-00100050-00100318 lives out you don't have anything to tie
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00360-00100319-00100624 uh to tie it to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00361-00100625-00100912 um so in in the revised budget 1K
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00362-00100913-00101465 there's budgeted 1.8 million in phn pmpm
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00363-00101466-00101687 payment expenses for the Blue Cross Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00364-00101688-00101843 Shield contracted live so this is the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00365-00101844-00102161 budgeted amount that they um expected
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00366-00102162-00102439 they would be paying for their portion
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00367-00102440-00102718 of the match and again the revenue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00368-00102719-00102977 source for that investment is from a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00369-00102978-00103427 hospital participation fees
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00370-00103428-00103577 foreign
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00371-00103578-00103834 you can go to the next slide so there's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00372-00103835-00103942 another
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00373-00103943-00104189 um in there's another aspect here which
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00374-00104190-00104386 is um there are some Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00375-00104388-00104573 Providers independent Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00376-00104574-00104782 Providers specifically can opt to be in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00377-00104783-00105058 the comprehensive payment reform or CPR
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00378-00105059-00105251 program they're also impacted by the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00379-00105252-00105365 loss of the Blue Cross Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00380-00105366-00105502 contract but this works a little bit
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00381-00105503-00106163 differently go to the next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00382-00106164-00106397 so I probably should have reversed these
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00383-00106398-00106643 slides um but that's okay I'll go in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00384-00106644-00106751 this order
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00385-00106752-00106908 um so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00386-00106909-00107249 uh the effect overall on fpp and CPR on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00387-00107250-00107381 the Blue Cross Blue Shield withdrawal
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00388-00107382-00107783 removes the fpp pilot
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00389-00107783-00107999 um so there that that gets us down to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00390-00108000-00108407 zero percent uh commercial fvp
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00391-00108408-00108695 um the overall fee for service fpp ratio
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00392-00108696-00108928 which is something the board tracks will
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00393-00108929-00109240 increase because we're losing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00394-00109241-00109583 um lives and and the bulk of fpp is in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00395-00109583-00109813 is in Medicaid so the overall ratio
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00396-00109814-00110069 increases but that's only because we've
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00397-00110070-00110236 lost the you know good chunk of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00398-00110238-00110423 commercial lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00399-00110424-00110884 um and there is a change in policy for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00400-00110885-00111083 the CPR program to include MVP
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00401-00111083-00111347 attributed lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00402-00111348-00111623 um to kind of offset the inclusion of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00403-00111624-00111833 the Blue Cross Blue Shield lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00404-00111833-00112060 um and we can get to that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00405-00112061-00112216 the next slide talks about a little bit
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00406-00112217-00112373 more so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00407-00112374-00112510 um here's how the comprehensive payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00408-00112511-00112751 reform program works and the and the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00409-00112752-00112889 impact
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00410-00112890-00112969 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00411-00112970-00113225 this this program is designed to move
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00412-00113226-00113386 participating independent Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00413-00113388-00113578 practices away from a fee-for-service
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00414-00113579-00113752 payment model to a value-based payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00415-00113753-00113993 model with a fixed per member per month
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00416-00113994-00114163 payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00417-00114164-00114515 their pmpm capitated payment is a blend
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00418-00114516-00114871 of dollars from Medicare Medicaid and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00419-00114872-00115151 previously Blue Cross Blue Shield plus
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00420-00115152-00115504 some investment from one care same as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00421-00115505-00115763 the other Primary Care Program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00422-00115764-00116165 um the PM PM for for providers in this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00423-00116166-00116369 program replaces fee for service
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00424-00116370-00116627 for these pair programs it includes a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00425-00116628-00116945 capitated pmpm payment pmpm payments for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00426-00116946-00117223 both core and non-core services
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00427-00117224-00117449 and so with the Blue Cross Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00428-00117450-00117683 program no longer contributing to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00429-00117683-00117916 CPR program providers will not receive
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00430-00117917-00118081 payments for their blue cost Blue Shield
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00431-00118082-00118415 patients within that capitated payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00432-00118416-00118816 um so it will revert to Fever service
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00433-00118817-00119069 um and then there is a small amount of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00434-00119070-00119333 Hospital dues that are also committed to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00435-00119333-00119458 you know they're sort of attached to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00436-00119459-00119633 these lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00437-00119633-00119860 um that would would come out of that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00438-00119861-00120047 capitated payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00439-00120048-00120173 um or any
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00440-00120174-00120310 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00441-00120311-00120581 you know any amount that that providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00442-00120582-00120731 were um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00443-00120732-00120989 are able to earn through that program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00444-00120990-00121151 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00445-00121152-00121366 so overall they're capitated payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00446-00121367-00121613 will decrease but the Blue Cross Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00447-00121614-00121793 Shield lives will revert to Fever
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00448-00121794-00121901 service
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00449-00121902-00122213 and again as we mentioned one care was
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00450-00122214-00122393 exploring and I think maybe at this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00451-00122394-00122507 point has
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00452-00122508-00122795 um adopted adding MVP attributed lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00453-00122796-00123010 to the to the program and we could hear
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00454-00123011-00123269 more from them on that and and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00455-00123270-00123466 how that works and how it offsets the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00456-00123467-00123899 loss of Blue Cross lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00457-00123900-00124283 uh you can go to the next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00458-00124283-00124558 so one more thing to note here
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00459-00124559-00124847 um about sort of potential remedies that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00460-00124848-00125140 are on the table
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00461-00125141-00125489 um onecare also let us know that there
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00462-00125490-00125752 uh are some agreements or potential
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00463-00125753-00126065 agreements with self-funded plans
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00464-00126066-00126202 um so one care indicated in their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00465-00126203-00126389 January 30th submission that they had
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00466-00126390-00126533 signed a memorandum of understanding
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00467-00126533-00126658 with the University of Vermont Medical
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00468-00126659-00126886 Center to have a direct contract so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00469-00126888-00127025 those self-funded plans that would be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00470-00127026-00127319 retroactive to January 23.
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00471-00127320-00127540 so through that contract they regain
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00472-00127541-00127840 attributed uh lives and restore Health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00473-00127841-00127960 Care dollars in Accountable Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00474-00127961-00128249 arrangements for 10 to 14 000
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00475-00128250-00128447 self-funded patients so that would sort
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00476-00128448-00128836 of put them back in and again we would
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00477-00128838-00129028 want to hear more from one care about
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00478-00129029-00129323 how that works and how that offsets the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00479-00129324-00129677 impacts
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00480-00129678-00130007 go to the next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00481-00130008-00130384 okay so that gets us to the bottom line
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00482-00130385-00130625 um so so what is the bottom line so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00483-00130626-00130799 there's 1.8 million in budgeted Hospital
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00484-00130800-00130984 dues that are no longer tied to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00485-00130985-00131177 attributed lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00486-00131178-00131399 um there's uh almost ninety eight
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00487-00131400-00131627 thousand dollars and a modest decrease
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00488-00131628-00131849 in operating expenses that are also
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00489-00131850-00132028 associated with the with the Blue Cross
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00490-00132029-00132377 Blue Shield lives so that gets uh us to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00491-00132378-00132587 a 1.9 million dollar bottom line to be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00492-00132588-00132790 evaluated in the final budget it's a lot
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00493-00132791-00133109 of words below here these are um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00494-00133110-00133397 copied and pasted directly from one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00495-00133398-00133702 cares budget resubmission context
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00496-00133703-00133990 because it's it's their statement about
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00497-00133991-00134249 this this bottom line number
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00498-00134250-00134369 um so I know it's a lot but I think it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00499-00134370-00134597 worth reading so that we understand what
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00500-00134598-00134837 what one care has said so far
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00501-00134838-00135011 um so they're submitted documents that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00502-00135012-00135173 the budget resubmission reflect changes
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00503-00135174-00135371 to attribution the total cost of care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00504-00135372-00135581 risk reward payer support Revenue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00505-00135582-00135821 population Health Management expenses
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00506-00135822-00136031 and operating expenses that are linked
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00507-00136032-00136283 to attribution in total and all else
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00508-00136284-00136457 equal these changes result in a net
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00509-00136458-00136661 reduction of funds that would ordinarily
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00510-00136662-00136799 be asked if hospitals through
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00511-00136800-00137111 participation fees however because the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00512-00137112-00137302 partition patient fee amount needs to be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00513-00137303-00137477 thoroughly and holistically evaluated by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00514-00137478-00137693 one care governance no change has been
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00515-00137694-00137897 Incorporated at this time this approach
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00516-00137898-00138064 results in a bottom line profit of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00517-00138065-00138269 roughly 1.9 million in the submitted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00518-00138270-00138539 materials though for clarity the fact
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00519-00138540-00138713 that the submitted templates show a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00520-00138714-00138887 profit in no way reflects a plan to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00521-00138888-00139139 generate a profit nor does it reflect a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00522-00139140-00139354 decision to reduce participation fees by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00523-00139355-00139577 the full amount any change to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00524-00139578-00139709 participation fee amount and the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00525-00139710-00139954 resulting bottom line or changes in CPR
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00526-00139955-00140183 and or additional contracts will be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00527-00140184-00140375 incorporated into the revised budget due
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00528-00140376-00140602 later this spring when we also have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00529-00140603-00140807 final numbers for all programs so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00530-00140808-00140987 essentially they're saying we're leaving
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00531-00140988-00141281 this uh 1.9 on the bottom line because
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00532-00141282-00141437 we need to reevaluate the whole budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00533-00141438-00141923 to decide how to either reinvest or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00534-00141924-00142061 reduce
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00535-00142062-00142277 these fees that were expected to be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00536-00142278-00142451 collected from hospitals for this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00537-00142452-00142775 program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00538-00142776-00143009 so I wanted to let their statement just
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00539-00143010-00143309 speak for itself you can go to the next
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00540-00143310-00143614 slide 16.
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00541-00143615-00143813 we have some information on the Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00542-00143814-00144221 Cross Blue Shield side of this equation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00543-00144222-00144427 as well
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00544-00144428-00144827 on January 20th Blue Cross sent a letter
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00545-00144828-00145109 to Providers confirming that the 325 PM
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00546-00145110-00145283 PM payment would continue through June
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00547-00145284-00145577 30th and then on Monday February 27th
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00548-00145578-00145739 Blue Cross Blue Shield committed to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00549-00145740-00146027 continuing these payments for all of of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00550-00146028-00146351 23. and there's a link to that press
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00551-00146352-00146554 release there payments will be made
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00552-00146555-00146716 based on current attribution meaning
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00553-00146717-00146981 based on January 2023 active enrollment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00554-00146982-00147245 for each quarter they will providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00555-00147246-00147521 will receive quarterly payments paid by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00556-00147522-00147697 Blue Cross directly to the practice
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00557-00147698-00147995 previously these payments were were made
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00558-00147996-00148264 from Blue Cross to one care quarterly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00559-00148265-00148516 who then distributed the 325 to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00560-00148517-00148690 practices I believe one care distributed
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00561-00148691-00148864 to them monthly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00562-00148865-00149266 uh the purpose of the payments uh are
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00563-00149267-00149602 are called primary care support funding
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00564-00149603-00149740 um it remains unchanged there's no
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00565-00149741-00149873 restriction or requirement for the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00566-00149874-00150040 practices to receive the payment so the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00567-00150041-00150293 the sort of reporting aspect
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00568-00150294-00150599 um is lost for the moment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00569-00150600-00150719 um and the payments are made for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00570-00150720-00150863 qualified Health Plan beneficiaries
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00571-00150864-00151073 fully insured Large Group self-insured
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00572-00151074-00151228 Health Plans including for employers who
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00573-00151229-00151373 chose not to participate in the risk
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00574-00151374-00151516 program this is the same as it was when
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00575-00151517-00151775 they were in the program Blue Cross made
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00576-00151776-00152116 these payments on behalf of these
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00577-00152117-00152351 beneficiaries some are we're in a risk
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00578-00152352-00152657 Arrangement some were not only the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00579-00152658-00152873 programs in the risk Arrangement also
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00580-00152874-00153059 got the match from one care because
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00581-00153060-00153257 those lives were participating in the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00582-00153258-00153545 one Care Program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00583-00153546-00154001 you can go to the next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00584-00154002-00154223 so just a little a little bit about the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00585-00154224-00154493 process to date so after one care is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00586-00154494-00154775 January 30th interim submission chair
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00587-00154776-00155014 Foster requested additional information
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00588-00155015-00155326 from one Care on February 9th to address
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00589-00155327-00155573 the immediate impact faced by primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00590-00155574-00155728 care providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00591-00155729-00155951 there are a couple of questions in there
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00592-00155952-00156064 about
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00593-00156065-00156287 um kind of what any immediate decisions
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00594-00156288-00156628 that one care had made one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00595-00156629-00156809 responded to this letter on February
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00596-00156810-00157126 17th both of these letters are linked on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00597-00157127-00157426 our website the February 17th response
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00598-00157427-00157571 letter deferred decisions about the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00599-00157572-00157828 primary care payments to March 31st uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00600-00157829-00158249 to the March 31st resubmission
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00601-00158250-00158602 uh two another important note so one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00602-00158603-00158837 care leadership and governance is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00603-00158838-00159028 reevaluating the ACL budget and will
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00604-00159029-00159293 submit a revised budget based on Final
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00605-00159294-00159485 contracts and attribution and any budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00606-00159486-00159821 amendment request by March 31st so one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00607-00159822-00160181 care sort of response to this would be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00608-00160182-00160528 expected by then if not sooner um so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00609-00160529-00160661 what we're doing today is bringing the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00610-00160662-00160901 issue before the full board for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00611-00160902-00161233 deliberation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00612-00161234-00161489 go to the next slide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00613-00161490-00161785 which is how I'll frame up the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00614-00161786-00162083 discussion today so the opportunity
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00615-00162084-00162251 today is for the board members to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00616-00162252-00162628 discuss their preferred approach
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00617-00162629-00162935 um so what we're talking about here is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00618-00162936-00163126 um most specifically the 1.8 million in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00619-00163127-00163307 budgeted Hospital participation fees
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00620-00163308-00163540 that were directly tied to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00621-00163541-00163781 Blue Cross Blue Shield lives the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00622-00163782-00164057 discussion could also include the ninety
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00623-00164058-00164207 eight thousand dollars approximately
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00624-00164208-00164423 that's in operational Savings in the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00625-00164424-00164687 interim budget it does not include the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00626-00164688-00164831 Green Mountain care board ordered two
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00627-00164832-00164993 percent admin reduction from their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00628-00164994-00165287 original budget which we would look for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00629-00165288-00165713 in the final submission
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00630-00165714-00165976 so potential approaches are listed below
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00631-00165977-00166199 but first I'll note that all funds must
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00632-00166200-00166499 be reasonably related to ACL activities
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00633-00166500-00166787 to be compliant with federal law so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00634-00166788-00167057 basically what that means is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00635-00167058-00167237 um ACO activities are things that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00636-00167238-00167411 promote accountability for cost and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00637-00167412-00167578 quality for attributed lives and better
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00638-00167579-00167776 managing and caring for attributed lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00639-00167777-00168016 you know for example promoting patient
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00640-00168017-00168209 engagement patient self-management or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00641-00168210-00168419 evidence-based medicine
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00642-00168420-00168611 um they can't just be payments that are
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00643-00168612-00168828 made to Primary Care Providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00644-00168829-00169054 they need to be made in a way that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00645-00169055-00169252 furthers the aco's goals of reducing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00646-00169253-00169501 costs or improving quality
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00647-00169502-00169816 for their population
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00648-00169817-00170057 so here are the the potential approaches
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00649-00170058-00170293 that we have identified
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00650-00170294-00170609 one care could reduce
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00651-00170610-00170843 the budgeted Hospital participation fees
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00652-00170844-00171089 based on the loss of attributed lives so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00653-00171090-00171304 this would accurately reflect the loss
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00654-00171305-00171575 of attribution but it doesn't provide
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00655-00171576-00171754 any relief to impacted primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00656-00171755-00171989 providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00657-00171990-00172354 two they could reinvest those fees into
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00658-00172355-00172654 existing one care Primary Care programs
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00659-00172655-00172949 there are some possible examples they
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00660-00172950-00173159 could raise the base pmpms in other
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00661-00173160-00173302 payer programs
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00662-00173303-00173554 here's some pros and cons it would that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00663-00173555-00173764 would provide timely relief for impacted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00664-00173765-00174097 primary care providers in 23 it could
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00665-00174098-00174502 lead to a reduction in the base in pmpms
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00666-00174503-00174761 and 24. so what I mean by that is we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00667-00174762-00174899 don't know what the Blue Cross Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00668-00174900-00175163 Shield Arrangement might look like so if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00669-00175164-00175589 we if one care made this decision for 23
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00670-00175590-00175871 to up those PM PMS
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00671-00175872-00176051 um we don't know if if that would
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00672-00176052-00176363 continue or be able to continue in 24.
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00673-00176364-00176566 they could also choose to raise the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00674-00176567-00176914 bonus payments amounts in other payer
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00675-00176915-00177149 programs again this would provide relief
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00676-00177150-00177490 for impacted Primary Care practices and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00677-00177491-00177652 avoid that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00678-00177653-00177709 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00679-00177710-00177983 potential making it kind of look like
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00680-00177984-00178157 there's a reduction to the base the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00681-00178158-00178269 following year
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00682-00178270-00178402 [Music]
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00683-00178403-00178637 but the downside is that the bonus
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00684-00178638-00178811 payments are paid later after quality
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00685-00178812-00179464 measures are final so it's not as Timely
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00686-00179465-00179549 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00687-00179550-00179854 I would also say
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00688-00179855-00180131 another way to put it is that if if if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00689-00180132-00180443 you raise the pmpms in other in some way
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00690-00180444-00180749 in other Primary Care programs with the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00691-00180750-00180983 other payers it may appear like it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00692-00180984-00181271 sort of one-time funding that goes away
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00693-00181272-00181613 another option is to reinvest the fees
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00694-00181614-00181897 into other ACO programs
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00695-00181898-00182128 kind of the downside here may not go to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00696-00182129-00182399 primary care we don't uh it could you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00697-00182400-00182525 know it would overall increase
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00698-00182526-00182704 investment in population health or keep
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00699-00182705-00183083 it keep it the same as was budgeted
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00700-00183084-00183340 um and again it could appear to be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00701-00183341-00183688 one-time funding also leaving it open
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00702-00183689-00183928 that there could be other options that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00703-00183929-00184187 we have not considered but these are the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00704-00184188-00184476 ones that we identified
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00705-00184477-00184871 and with that I'm going to turn it over
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00706-00184872-00185135 to Russ briefly to give you a little bit
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00707-00185136-00185290 of information sort of on the procedure
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00708-00185291-00185476 here because we haven't
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00709-00185477-00185771 kind of encountered this sort of interim
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00710-00185772-00186083 um budget review before so I'm going to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00711-00186084-00186521 let Russ say a few words about that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00712-00186522-00186725 um thanks Marissa uh Russ McCracken
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00713-00186726-00186952 staff attorney with the board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00714-00186953-00187169 um Marissa did a great job of setting up
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00715-00187170-00187385 the general process here so I'll be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00716-00187386-00187552 pretty brief
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00717-00187553-00187966 um as Marissa mentioned one cares
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00718-00187967-00188237 submitting a final budget to the board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00719-00188238-00188537 by the end of this month and that budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00720-00188538-00188699 will be reviewed and deliberated on by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00721-00188700-00188885 the board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00722-00188886-00188951 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00723-00188952-00189233 this meeting today is really set up
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00724-00189234-00189443 um to review what what is a significant
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00725-00189444-00189676 issue and to give the board some context
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00726-00189677-00189883 the opportunity to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00727-00189884-00190283 discuss the issue together and discuss
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00728-00190284-00190547 um potential approaches and what board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00729-00190548-00190804 members would like to see in one cares
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00730-00190805-00191045 final budget that's submitted on March
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00731-00191046-00191243 31st
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00732-00191244-00191525 there's no vote scheduled for today so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00733-00191526-00191831 the board isn't voting on anything today
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00734-00191832-00191987 um but if a board member wants to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00735-00191988-00192197 propose that the board takes some action
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00736-00192198-00192461 a vote can be scheduled
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00737-00192462-00192713 and noticed for a future date and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00738-00192714-00192851 procedurally there are a couple of ways
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00739-00192852-00192988 we can
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00740-00192989-00193276 um handle that in terms of of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00741-00193277-00193373 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00742-00193374-00193564 making a motion uh during this meeting
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00743-00193565-00193847 or during a future meeting
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00744-00193848-00193937 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00745-00193938-00194164 so with that I think I will turn it back
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00746-00194165-00194711 to you Marissa
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00747-00194712-00194951 I think that is all
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00748-00194952-00195161 we all have today I'll turn it over to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00749-00195162-00195502 you chair Foster for for discussion and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00750-00195503-00195761 questions
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00751-00195762-00195940 great thank you both
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00752-00195941-00196114 um very much
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00753-00196115-00196193 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00754-00196194-00196426 I had one quick question a couple
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00755-00196427-00196631 comments and thoughts I wanted to throw
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00756-00196632-00196816 out for my fellow board members but one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00757-00196817-00197219 question I had is I believe the data is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00758-00197220-00197404 that somewhere in the neighborhood of 60
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00759-00197405-00197837 to 70 percent of providers in Vermont uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00760-00197838-00198047 work at our hospitals
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00761-00198048-00198311 do we at the board or would one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00762-00198312-00198587 have information indicating what
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00763-00198588-00198737 percentage of these Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00764-00198738-00199283 Providers are at hospitals
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00765-00199284-00199523 don't have that readily available but
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00766-00199524-00199709 that is something that we should be able
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00767-00199710-00199913 to get from the provider list or have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00768-00199914-00200050 one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00769-00200051-00200302 give to us
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00770-00200303-00200716 is it reasonable to assume or presume
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00771-00200717-00200993 that a good amount of this 1.9 million
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00772-00200994-00201245 dollars if it were reallocated to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00773-00201246-00201538 Primary Care payments would go back to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00774-00201539-00201863 the hospitals is that fair
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00775-00201864-00202054 yes it's fair to say that a good chunk
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00776-00202055-00202187 would go back
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00777-00202188-00202547 to hospital Primary Care practices
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00778-00202548-00202654 okay
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00779-00202655-00202913 um so I appreciate you guys putting this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00780-00202914-00203075 together I know it's been a lot of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00781-00203076-00203314 nights and weekends and I believe one or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00782-00203315-00203483 both of you are on vacation so thanks
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00783-00203484-00203669 for stepping up to do this you guys did
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00784-00203670-00203873 a great job and you've treated this very
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00785-00203874-00204143 urgently and seriously and I think it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00786-00204144-00204364 reflects the importance of this issue to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00787-00204365-00204664 the board I would say at the outset that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00788-00204665-00204827 I would be supportive of the board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00789-00204828-00205096 requiring one care to fund Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00790-00205098-00205427 payments at the same level as before the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00791-00205428-00205721 Blue Cross Blue Shield withdrawal I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00792-00205721-00205901 think we all recognize that Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00793-00205902-00206116 Providers are incredibly important to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00794-00206117-00206338 ensuring the health of vermonters and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00795-00206339-00206608 also to our health care reform goals in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00796-00206609-00206873 my mind they're foundational and yet
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00797-00206873-00207088 we've learned since I've been here that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00798-00207089-00207232 their practice has faced significant
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00799-00207233-00207481 financial challenges and they have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00800-00207482-00207712 extreme administrative burden that's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00801-00207713-00207977 difficult to maintain and there are too
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00802-00207978-00208138 many retiring or leaving the practice
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00803-00208139-00208462 and that's not good for our state
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00804-00208463-00208762 um I'd also note that numerous actors in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00805-00208763-00208925 Vermont have encouraged Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00806-00208926-00209105 Providers to participate in the ACO
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00807-00209106-00209386 model and the primary care providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00808-00209387-00209590 have and they've taken on costs and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00809-00209591-00209903 burdens to do so one care has encouraged
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00810-00209904-00210082 Primary Care Providers to be part of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00811-00210083-00210251 this and the primary care providers have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00812-00210252-00210365 stepped up
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00813-00210366-00210641 and they reasonably expected to have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00814-00210642-00210821 this level of funding available to them
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00815-00210821-00210989 this year and it was critically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00816-00210990-00211087 important
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00817-00211088-00211348 they budgeted for it they planned on it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00818-00211350-00211510 they changed their practices they've
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00819-00211511-00211684 taken on burden to be able to do this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00820-00211685-00211865 because they thought this money would be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00821-00211866-00211967 available
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00822-00211967-00212194 and to no fault of their own that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00823-00212196-00212458 Financial financial support that they're
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00824-00212459-00212746 expecting in January went up in smoke in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00825-00212748-00212951 mid-December and I find that extremely
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00826-00212952-00213208 unfair and also detrimental to Vermont
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00827-00213209-00213515 in our health care System
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00828-00213516-00213815 um I expected perhaps incorrectly that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00829-00213816-00214055 one cares revised budget would put forth
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00830-00214056-00214271 adequate solutions to ensure the primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00831-00214271-00214439 care providers have the same level of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00832-00214440-00214601 financial support before the Blue Cross
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00833-00214602-00214882 withdrawal to me this really is a four
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00834-00214883-00215129 or five alarm kind of situation that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00835-00215130-00215363 needed every possible solution analyzed
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00836-00215364-00215632 and practical solution proposed so that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00837-00215633-00215842 these Primary Care Providers knew where
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00838-00215844-00216005 they would be and that kind of just left
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00839-00216006-00216239 an alert
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00840-00216240-00216437 um I'll note also that Blue Cross has
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00841-00216438-00216617 found a way to do so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00842-00216617-00216810 um within a month of their announcement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00843-00216811-00217073 they announced they'd Provide support
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00844-00217073-00217241 for the primary care providers for the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00845-00217242-00217439 first six months and then I guess it was
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00846-00217440-00217781 just last week they indicated they found
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00847-00217782-00217931 a way to be able to make those financial
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00848-00217932-00218201 payments for the rest of the year and I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00849-00218202-00218410 appreciate Blue Cross recognizing how
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00850-00218411-00218548 important These funds are to Primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00851-00218550-00218717 Care Providers and for the decisions
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00852-00218717-00219058 they made to do so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00853-00219059-00219341 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00854-00219342-00219575 I I did want to just State for the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00855-00219576-00219760 record how appreciative I am of you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00856-00219761-00220060 Marissa and Ross and the entire ACO team
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00857-00220061-00220192 you know and we got that budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00858-00220194-00220373 submission the resubmission in January
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00859-00220373-00220696 you guys really went Full Throttle to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00860-00220698-00220877 try and come up with ideas and assess
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00861-00220878-00221063 ideas and to work through them you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00862-00221064-00221260 updated me you provided me analysis you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00863-00221261-00221429 brainstormed you assessed all the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00864-00221430-00221644 possible steps that we could take to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00865-00221646-00221921 address this one of you is on calls with
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00866-00221921-00222131 me up till 10 pm at night and you took
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00867-00222132-00222298 it very seriously and I'm grateful that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00868-00222300-00222401 you did
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00869-00222402-00222671 we approved one cares budget in December
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00870-00222671-00222905 around 15 million dollars and a big part
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00871-00222906-00223139 of why I voted in support of it frankly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00872-00223140-00223284 with some reservations
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00873-00223285-00223637 was because of the population health and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00874-00223638-00223889 CPR payments primary care providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00875-00223890-00224134 in my view is one of the things that one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00876-00224135-00224369 care does very well and something that I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00877-00224369-00224560 think I would actually like to see one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00878-00224561-00224734 care support at increased levels in the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00879-00224735-00224806 future
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00880-00224807-00225179 so absent this 1.8 or 9 million dollars
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00881-00225180-00225455 from the population health programs in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00882-00225456-00225701 my view vermonters are getting less for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00883-00225702-00225941 their 15 million dollar investment this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00884-00225942-00226169 year in the ACO
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00885-00226169-00226391 so I just say that that's that's very
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00886-00226392-00226642 very important to me and um I think it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00887-00226644-00226798 should be there I think that one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00888-00226800-00226955 should include that funding and should
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00889-00226956-00227129 find a way to ensure the primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00890-00227130-00227308 providers are you know my mind made
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00891-00227309-00227489 whole
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00892-00227490-00227710 um while I support requiring one care to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00893-00227711-00227842 direct that money to Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00894-00227844-00228058 Providers my view and I'm curious to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00895-00228059-00228292 hear the other board members views
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00896-00228294-00228575 um I'm in favor at this time of having
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00897-00228576-00228773 one care advise what's the most
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00898-00228773-00229001 economical productive and efficient
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00899-00229002-00229192 means to do so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00900-00229194-00229427 um it's one cares role and job to come
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00901-00229428-00229684 up with ACO programs and in my mind it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00902-00229685-00229817 in the best position to make
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00903-00229817-00230110 recommendations as to what mechanisms to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00904-00230111-00230315 fund the primary care providers make the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00905-00230316-00230434 most sense
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00906-00230435-00230723 so I guess that I can change my mind on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00907-00230723-00230855 that but at this point I think it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00908-00230856-00231058 probably makes sense for one care to say
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00909-00231059-00231341 how they're going to do that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00910-00231342-00231491 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00911-00231492-00231748 one last kind of issue is I have a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00912-00231750-00231929 concern I think you sort of flagged this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00913-00231930-00232210 Marissa is that Blue Cross is doing this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00914-00232211-00232439 for 2023.
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00915-00232440-00232553 um and we don't know what's going to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00916-00232554-00233021 happen in 2024. and so that could be a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00917-00233021-00233225 lot of money that's not available should
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00918-00233226-00233417 one care not be able to retain Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00919-00233417-00233698 Cross for next year so I don't know if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00920-00233700-00233879 one cares here today or not but I'm
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00921-00233880-00234077 flagging that issue for one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00922-00234078-00234292 one care needs to be working on that and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00923-00234294-00234569 planning for that contingency today if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00924-00234569-00234701 you can't keep the largest private
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00925-00234702-00234910 insurer in the program then the acos
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00926-00234911-00235096 value and the costs look very
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00927-00235098-00235271 differently
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00928-00235271-00235408 um and obviously I've never run an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00929-00235409-00235606 insurance company but I'd guess that the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00930-00235607-00235798 best way to attract them is to have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00931-00235800-00236063 programs that they view as working well
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00932-00236064-00236458 and saving their members money and to me
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00933-00236459-00236644 this really means Fair objective
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00934-00236646-00236921 rigorous evaluation that's something the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00935-00236921-00237148 board particularly member homes and the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00936-00237150-00237281 Healthcare Advocate have been pushing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00937-00237282-00237503 one care to do for a lengthy period of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00938-00237504-00237646 time and it's now part of the board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00939-00237648-00237982 approval so I'd also think that it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00940-00237983-00238192 just critical and vital to attracting an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00941-00238194-00238589 insurer to participate going forward
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00942-00238590-00238798 um lastly I'd say that the I think it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00943-00238800-00238948 was three hundred and three thousand
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00944-00238950-00239146 dollars was reduced from the admin
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00945-00239148-00239351 budget by the board in December and then
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00946-00239352-00239596 there's 97 000 in savings that have so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00947-00239598-00239741 far been identified
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00948-00239742-00240005 I would also support adding that into
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00949-00240006-00240256 payments to Primary Care Providers if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00950-00240257-00240419 there's an appropriate mechanism to do
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00951-00240419-00240617 so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00952-00240617-00240856 um I have no other questions or comments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00953-00240857-00241103 but I thank you guys for for taking us
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00954-00241104-00241546 up and doing this so properly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00955-00241548-00241823 um with that I'll turn it over to my
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00956-00241823-00241960 fellow board members
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00957-00241961-00242153 um I'll turn to miss lunge if she has
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00958-00242154-00242392 any questions or comments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00959-00242394-00242753 thank you uh and thank you Marissa and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00960-00242754-00242992 Ross and the rest of the ACO team for a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00961-00242994-00243196 very complete and thorough analysis and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00962-00243198-00243484 presentation I really appreciate it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00963-00243485-00243563 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00964-00243564-00243827 so in thinking through this issue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00965-00243828-00243898 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00966-00243900-00244331 I'll start with potential Solutions I I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00967-00244332-00244829 also am and am supportive of one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00968-00244830-00245171 funding uh the primary care practices
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00969-00245171-00245508 with this additional dollars and having
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00970-00245509-00245813 their them advise the best way to do so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00971-00245814-00245992 I think
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00972-00245994-00246281 um I'll say one of my concerns
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00973-00246282-00246575 is that if this is one-time money that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00974-00246576-00246773 it be used in a one-time fashion because
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00975-00246773-00247025 I think otherwise we'll be back in the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00976-00247026-00247169 same position
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00977-00247169-00247492 uh next year with primary care practices
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00978-00247494-00247787 feeling a cut
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00979-00247788-00248153 um I'll say I am very disappointed that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00980-00248154-00248339 the parties were not able to find a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00981-00248340-00248525 solution
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00982-00248526-00248734 um I don't consider blue cross's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00983-00248735-00248969 commitment of 325 as being the same
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00984-00248969-00249208 while that will provide some relief for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00985-00249209-00249532 practices on a financial basis it is is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00986-00249533-00249856 it is it is a significant decrease in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00987-00249857-00250084 potentials shared savings that would be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00988-00250085-00250271 available for the practices from the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00989-00250271-00250492 transformation so it's a big deal to me
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00990-00250494-00250739 that it's not in a value-based payment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00991-00250740-00251098 and that it's pretty much you know
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00992-00251100-00251494 prolonging fee for service payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00993-00251496-00251596 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00994-00251598-00252065 so you know to me that's not the same
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00995-00252066-00252317 um I would also say
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00996-00252317-00252551 you know it takes two to tango so I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00997-00252552-00252756 would really hope that Blue Cross would
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00998-00252757-00253025 uh also come back to the table and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-00999-00253026-00253391 consider ways to ensure that they can
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01000-00253392-00253721 participate in uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01001-00253721-00254032 one in one cares value-based payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01002-00254033-00254225 certainly they both need to work
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01003-00254226-00254387 together to figure out the right way to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01004-00254388-00254729 do that uh I obviously don't have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01005-00254730-00254903 information about the exact breakdown
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01006-00254904-00255251 but from my mind not knowing the exact
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01007-00255252-00255496 breakdown I put responsibility on both
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01008-00255498-00255665 parties
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01009-00255666-00255875 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01010-00255876-00256073 I guess that's all I'll say for now
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01011-00256073-00256510 thanks
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01012-00256511-00256721 um member merman
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01013-00256721-00256991 yeah thanks and thanks again to Marissa
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01014-00256992-00257260 and the team for the presentation and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01015-00257261-00257417 all the hard work that it went into a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01016-00257417-00257555 very informative and helpful to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01017-00257556-00257753 understand this issue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01018-00257754-00257806 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01019-00257807-00258169 I share my colleagues concerns uh about
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01020-00258169-00258389 the uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01021-00258390-00258544 inability to come to an agreement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01022-00258546-00258706 between Blue Cross Blue Shield and one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01023-00258707-00259001 care uh and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01024-00259002-00259306 um but also support the idea that this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01025-00259307-00259642 funds that one care has can be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01026-00259644-00259858 reinvested into Primary Care with one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01027-00259859-00260087 care uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01028-00260088-00260308 working out the best solution for that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01029-00260309-00260639 so I I just I echoed
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01030-00260640-00260884 um both the prior comments from chair
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01031-00260885-00261148 Foster and member lunch I I appreciate
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01032-00261150-00261275 them I I don't really have anything
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01033-00261276-00261551 other to add other than I just the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01034-00261552-00261701 continued support I think and importance
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01035-00261702-00261844 of healthcare
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01036-00261846-00262175 reform and delivery on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01037-00262176-00262384 the with the importance of primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01038-00262385-00262558 as the main mechanism that we've been
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01039-00262559-00262721 relying on we need to support the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01040-00262722-00262882 primary care providers if they're the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01041-00262883-00263189 mechanism to try to improve care for our
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01042-00263190-00263327 population
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01043-00263328-00263675 thanks
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01044-00263676-00264005 um I'll turn to you Miss member Holmes
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01045-00264006-00264227 thank you um and I guess you know I feel
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01046-00264228-00264305 like we're going to be this is going to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01047-00264306-00264545 be an echo chamber in here uh thanking
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01048-00264546-00264713 our wonderful team for keeping us
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01049-00264714-00264943 abreast of all of these updates
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01050-00264944-00265139 disappointment that the parties could
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01051-00265140-00265330 not come together I share Robin's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01052-00265331-00265547 concern that while it seems like the 325
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01053-00265548-00265937 is keeping them whole it's not tied to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01054-00265938-00266201 any kinds of value-based payments and so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01055-00266202-00266375 there's a concern that I share with
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01056-00266376-00266669 member lunge about that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01057-00266670-00266855 um you know I do feel the same way as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01058-00266856-00267047 others do the primary care investment is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01059-00267048-00267227 critical to containing costs to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01060-00267228-00267430 improving population health so I support
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01061-00267431-00267610 all efforts to infuse more resources
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01062-00267611-00267784 than primary prevention and Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01063-00267785-00268013 Management which is what these dollars
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01064-00268014-00268289 were meant to do but again tied to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01065-00268290-00268523 Quality and improvements in population
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01066-00268524-00268697 Health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01067-00268698-00269093 um I like the idea of it being tied to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01068-00269094-00269315 one-time funding it is it's it's this is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01069-00269316-00269506 you know I'm concerned about what
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01070-00269507-00269693 happens next year
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01071-00269694-00269849 um if it's just added on top of the per
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01072-00269850-00270034 member per month amount because if it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01073-00270035-00270263 not then there next year it looks like a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01074-00270264-00270395 cut
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01075-00270396-00270695 um I do think that at this point in time
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01076-00270696-00270947 I mean they are reaching out to their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01077-00270948-00271139 board one cares reaching out to their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01078-00271140-00271306 board they're trying to consider what to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01079-00271307-00271534 do with these this 1.8 1.9 million
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01080-00271535-00271780 dollars I think we can signal to the ACO
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01081-00271781-00271979 that we would like to see these earmark
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01082-00271980-00272177 dollars continue to be allocated to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01083-00272178-00272308 Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01084-00272309-00272615 let them identify the ways the best Roi
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01085-00272616-00272806 on how those dollars could be spent to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01086-00272807-00273053 improve population health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01087-00273054-00273275 um and really uh give the primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01088-00273276-00273460 providers the resources that they need
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01089-00273461-00273617 to make the changes that we hope to see
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01090-00273618-00273815 in the delivery system so I don't want
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01091-00273816-00273958 to be overly prescriptive at this point
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01092-00273959-00274121 a month before they're going to resubmit
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01093-00274122-00274241 anyway
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01094-00274242-00274391 um but I think I think all of us so far
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01095-00274392-00274553 who have spoken are signaling this is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01096-00274554-00274727 really important Primary Care investment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01097-00274728-00274937 is really important
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01098-00274938-00275134 um so I think I'm just going to leave it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01099-00275135-00275321 at that on this point I just want to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01100-00275322-00275506 raise something that may seem tangential
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01101-00275507-00275608 but
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01102-00275609-00275921 actually it's it may not be and and that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01103-00275922-00276119 is that I think we need to have a a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01104-00276120-00276287 really strong understanding of the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01105-00276288-00276473 primary care landscape and one of the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01106-00276474-00276610 things that I think will be helpful this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01107-00276611-00276893 is maybe to Susan to you to I know that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01108-00276894-00277271 AHS did a study last fall about Primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01109-00277272-00277517 Care access in the state and as a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01110-00277518-00277619 supplement to the wait times
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01111-00277620-00277817 investigation or inquiry from last
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01112-00277818-00278027 January so I guess I'm you know part of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01113-00278028-00278249 me as we're talking about primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01114-00278250-00278447 and the importance of primary care it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01115-00278448-00278608 will be really helpful I guess this is a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01116-00278609-00278789 sideline but it's related to this is to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01117-00278790-00278945 understand what were the results of that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01118-00278946-00279077 study
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01119-00279078-00279275 um you know where is access compromised
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01120-00279276-00279460 in the state I don't know whether that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01121-00279461-00279641 could help inform where some of these
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01122-00279642-00279803 dollars were going or where we can be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01123-00279804-00279977 improving
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01124-00279978-00280210 um and ensuring that our Primary Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01125-00280211-00280391 Providers have the resources they need
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01126-00280392-00280589 to stay financially viable and to stay
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01127-00280590-00280787 in the state so I guess I would say it's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01128-00280788-00280967 a tangential topic but I know it was
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01129-00280968-00281134 something that AHS decided in the fall
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01130-00281135-00281279 and it might be helpful for us to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01131-00281280-00281608 understand where the the the pain point
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01132-00281609-00281932 points are in Primary Care access and in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01133-00281933-00282106 the context of this investment in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01134-00282107-00282419 Primary Care through one care so those
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01135-00282420-00282706 are my comments at the moment I look
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01136-00282707-00283013 forward to hearing others
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01137-00283014-00283241 in member Walsh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01138-00283242-00283529 thank you I'm joined my colleagues in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01139-00283530-00283853 thanking Marissa and Russ and team for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01140-00283854-00283999 their analysis
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01141-00284000-00284315 and really echoing things that have been
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01142-00284316-00284556 said so far the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01143-00284557-00284837 late last fall we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01144-00284838-00285160 um tentatively approved a budget with uh
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01145-00285161-00285419 1.8 million dollars for population
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01146-00285420-00285760 health and CPR payments there was a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01147-00285761-00285905 distribution mechanism that was
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01148-00285906-00286132 dependent upon another entity
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01149-00286133-00286403 and that distribution mechanism fell
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01150-00286404-00286523 apart
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01151-00286524-00286858 but one care has touted its ability to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01152-00286859-00287051 pass through dollars and distribute
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01153-00287052-00287153 money
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01154-00287154-00287441 so my hope is that they're able to find
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01155-00287442-00287615 another way to distribute that money
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01156-00287616-00287860 that we approved in their budget the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01157-00287861-00288143 money is there it's figuring out how to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01158-00288144-00288479 distribute it now that a dip that their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01159-00288480-00288779 the arrangement they had fell apart
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01160-00288780-00289073 those things happen but the money's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01161-00289074-00289295 there I hope they find a way to get it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01162-00289296-00289601 to Primary Care Providers and as close
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01163-00289602-00289795 to a fashion as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01164-00289796-00290177 their budget had it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01165-00290178-00290482 um but like my colleagues I think
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01166-00290483-00290795 um I'm not trying I'm not running one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01167-00290796-00290951 one care I think they're in the best
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01168-00290952-00291155 position to figure out
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01169-00291156-00291341 um the best mechanism for that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01170-00291342-00291515 distribution as a pass-through
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01171-00291516-00291749 organization
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01172-00291750-00291821 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01173-00291822-00292006 I think
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01174-00292007-00292199 um member Holmes had a good point about
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01175-00292200-00292445 trying to Target
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01176-00292446-00292860 um any any funding that'd be great
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01177-00292861-00293080 that'd be a great
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01178-00293081-00293345 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01179-00293346-00293801 feature that a data analytic program
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01180-00293802-00294089 within
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01181-00294090-00294323 an Accountable Care Organization could
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01182-00294324-00294689 do
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01183-00294690-00295006 a strong data analytic program would
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01184-00295007-00295169 help
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01185-00295170-00295384 distribute the money
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01186-00295385-00295571 in the most
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01187-00295572-00295703 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01188-00295704-00295973 useful means the fact that that has not
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01189-00295974-00296129 been going on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01190-00296130-00296308 for the past
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01191-00296309-00296555 five or six years is continues to be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01192-00296556-00296945 telling to me
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01193-00296946-00297484 and that's it back to you chair Foster
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01194-00297485-00297821 um thank you I guess I would um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01195-00297822-00298097 two things uh from member
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01196-00298098-00298325 um lunges comments that that jumped out
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01197-00298326-00298667 at me and one is I guess um Marissa or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01198-00298668-00298949 in one care if they're here if there's a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01199-00298950-00299243 mechanism to address the decrease in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01200-00299244-00299471 shared savings
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01201-00299472-00299723 um so that that amount of money is also
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01202-00299724-00299908 remains available I would be certainly
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01203-00299909-00300184 open-minded to any proposals
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01204-00300185-00300532 um to counteract that issue and then
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01205-00300533-00300784 because I think Robin's right that's an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01206-00300785-00301043 important change in what we had before
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01207-00301044-00301289 and what we have now and then the second
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01208-00301290-00301595 thing is my understanding is the Blue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01209-00301596-00301829 Cross payments for this first six months
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01210-00301830-00302080 are not tied to Value based performance
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01211-00302081-00302315 they're just providing the money which I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01212-00302316-00302453 guess I kind of understand because of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01213-00302454-00302801 the exigencies of the situation such as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01214-00302802-00303034 will is Marissa do you know if that's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01215-00303035-00303425 the same for the second six months of 23
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01216-00303426-00303677 I believe so I believe it's the same for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01217-00303678-00304193 the full year
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01218-00304194-00304373 um okay I had no other questions or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01219-00304374-00304673 comments um and I'll turn it over to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01220-00304674-00304871 Healthcare Advocate for any questions or
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01221-00304872-00305045 comments they may have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01222-00305046-00305303 thank you chair Foster sample office the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01223-00305304-00305441 Healthcare Advocate I'm going to keep my
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01224-00305442-00305621 video off today because my whole family
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01225-00305622-00305782 is unfortunately battling a stomach bug
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01226-00305783-00305999 so I can't really characterize myself as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01227-00306000-00306191 being camera ready
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01228-00306192-00306437 um but want to thank Marissa and the ACO
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01229-00306438-00306653 team for your presentation and also the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01230-00306654-00306821 willingness of the board to deliberate
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01231-00306822-00307030 this topic at this time
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01232-00307031-00307265 the HCA believes support for Primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01233-00307266-00307504 Care support is critically important so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01234-00307505-00307684 with this in mind we think option two
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01235-00307685-00307906 bullet 2 presents the most sound and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01236-00307907-00308134 preferable approach because first and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01237-00308135-00308297 foremost it provides at least a bridge
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01238-00308298-00308482 for this year to continue the support
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01239-00308483-00308771 for pcps while also being responsive to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01240-00308772-00308999 previously stated concerns from one care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01241-00309000-00309208 about their ability to make this happen
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01242-00309209-00309425 I think it's also important that this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01243-00309426-00309634 recommendation aligns with regulatory
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01244-00309635-00309827 oversight requirements and objectives of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01245-00309828-00310019 the board so thank you to Marissa and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01246-00310020-00310301 team for for doing that and we look
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01247-00310302-00310421 forward I mean obviously there are a lot
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01248-00310422-00310510 of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01249-00310511-00310780 um kind of Uncertain pieces with this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01250-00310781-00310973 budget and we look forward to one cares
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01251-00310974-00311075 budget submission at the end of the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01252-00311076-00311237 month and continuing to participate in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01253-00311238-00311345 the process
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01254-00311346-00311573 thank you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01255-00311574-00311747 thank you Mr Price and I hope everyone
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01256-00311748-00312089 in your house gets well I'm also not
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01257-00312090-00312269 camera ready I'll have to thank my uncle
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01258-00312270-00312508 Andy for Lending me his suit jacket and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01259-00312509-00312743 shirt for today's hearing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01260-00312744-00313001 um uh and with that I'll turn it over to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01261-00313002-00313210 public comment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01262-00313211-00313337 um if you use your raise the hand
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01263-00313338-00313499 function I'll I'll call on you in the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01264-00313500-00313901 order in which the hands are raised
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01265-00313902-00314267 um Sarah Barry please go ahead
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01266-00314268-00314453 good afternoon chair Foster this is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01267-00314454-00314603 Sarah Berry I'm the Chief Operating
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01268-00314604-00314801 Officer for one care Vermont
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01269-00314802-00315017 and I I wanted to start just by thanking
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01270-00315018-00315197 you for the opportunity to have this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01271-00315198-00315371 conversation today and particularly for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01272-00315372-00315575 the work of the staff I think this is an
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01273-00315576-00315851 incredibly complex issue and topic and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01274-00315852-00316097 they did a really nice job of laying it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01275-00316098-00316204 out in a way that people could
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01276-00316205-00316475 understand and really consider the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01277-00316476-00316739 multiple facets of the situation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01278-00316740-00316991 so just as many people have said we at
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01279-00316992-00317171 one care as a provider-led network
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01280-00317172-00317410 believe in the value of primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01281-00317411-00317656 believe that it is foundational and want
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01282-00317657-00317921 to continue to make our best efforts to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01283-00317922-00318095 support that system to really pay
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01284-00318096-00318275 attention to how they're supporting
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01285-00318276-00318604 preventive care acute care and really
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01286-00318605-00318803 thinking about them as the Cornerstone
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01287-00318804-00319001 uh within their local communities for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01288-00319002-00319253 providing that continuity
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01289-00319254-00319517 so as has been mentioned one care has
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01290-00319518-00319727 been taking significant action over the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01291-00319728-00319925 last few weeks since blue cross's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01292-00319926-00320177 decision to withdraw from a contract and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01293-00320178-00320387 that includes immediately working with
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01294-00320388-00320584 our Primary Care Network and engaging
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01295-00320585-00320753 with them about what their needs are
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01296-00320754-00320980 what might be possible from a legal
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01297-00320981-00321293 framework and we prioritized at the top
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01298-00321294-00321629 to rethink our CPR program and as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01299-00321630-00321832 several people mentioned we have now
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01300-00321833-00322132 successfully taken board action and been
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01301-00322133-00322421 able to bring the MVP lives into the CPR
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01302-00322422-00322679 program and those funds are flowing out
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01303-00322680-00322901 on a monthly basis to our providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01304-00322902-00323123 along with the standard Medicare and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01305-00323124-00323279 Medicaid payments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01306-00323280-00323506 so I think that's a very rapid success
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01307-00323507-00323651 and one that we've certainly heard
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01308-00323652-00323932 positive feedback around the next thing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01309-00323933-00324191 that we've really focused on is engaging
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01310-00324192-00324521 with the UVM Health Network around a new
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01311-00324522-00324754 plan to be able to recapture some of the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01312-00324755-00325043 lives lost as Marissa spoke to and we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01313-00325044-00325193 will certainly have more to share with
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01314-00325194-00325421 you in our budget submission there but
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01315-00325422-00325637 we are making very good progress in that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01316-00325638-00325901 Arena and that will bring those lives
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01317-00325902-00326104 back into a value-based care arrangement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01318-00326105-00326351 with appropriate risk and reward
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01319-00326352-00326591 possibilities for Primary Care as well
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01320-00326592-00326806 as for the Continuum of Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01321-00326807-00327095 uh I can't speak in detail today uh to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01322-00327096-00327419 the conversations about the funds uh for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01323-00327420-00327634 Primary Care that are in discussion I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01324-00327635-00327797 can say that it's a very active
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01325-00327798-00327995 conversation that will happen through
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01326-00327996-00328199 our governance process in this March
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01327-00328200-00328384 cycle and we will certainly give you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01328-00328385-00328630 full information when we submit that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01329-00328631-00328793 that documentation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01330-00328794-00328960 um and the the strategy and approach
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01331-00328961-00329165 that goes alongside it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01332-00329166-00329447 so having said that I just again really
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01333-00329448-00329645 thank the staff and the board for having
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01334-00329646-00329860 this open conversation I think this is a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01335-00329861-00330071 critical issue for vermonters and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01336-00330072-00330256 certainly for our health care providers
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01337-00330257-00330503 and one care continues to see itself as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01338-00330504-00330682 part of the solution
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01339-00330683-00330958 thank you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01340-00330959-00331204 thank you for your public comment
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01341-00331205-00331456 um next Miss Sharon gutland please go
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01342-00331457-00331871 ahead
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01343-00331872-00332032 thanks
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01344-00332033-00332158 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01345-00332159-00332513 I definitely support Primary Care fully
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01346-00332514-00332860 because of the value of prevention
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01347-00332861-00333149 um but physical therapy is a prevent is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01348-00333150-00333395 a profession that provides preventative
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01349-00333396-00333677 Services as well
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01350-00333678-00333995 um we support reduced
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01351-00333996-00334349 health care costs and the prevention of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01352-00334350-00334571 like injuries and surgeries and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01353-00334572-00334841 pharmaceuticals will
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01354-00334842-00335291 um when applied and when Incorporated in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01355-00335292-00335680 chronic Care Management can help prevent
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01356-00335681-00336041 all of the diseases that are included in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01357-00336042-00336173 chronic
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01358-00336174-00336479 disease diabetes hypertension depression
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01359-00336480-00336587 even
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01360-00336588-00336784 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01361-00336785-00337247 and PT with direct access it's had
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01362-00337248-00337469 Direct access for a long time so people
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01363-00337470-00337577 come
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01364-00337578-00337991 often first to us so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01365-00337992-00338363 we are evolving into being more Primary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01366-00338364-00338867 Care not equal but complementary to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01367-00338868-00339143 collaborate with primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01368-00339144-00339449 and I think that that's the best dollars
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01369-00339450-00339760 spent in any profession
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01370-00339761-00339934 whether it be
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01371-00339935-00340204 the traditional Primary Care doctor's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01372-00340205-00340493 office or physical therapy practice
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01373-00340494-00341039 if we apply prevention that pays more it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01374-00341040-00341363 pays not only for the direct care of the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01375-00341364-00341717 moment but in the future
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01376-00341718-00341980 um in my PT practice
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01377-00341981-00342358 um is included in one care technically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01378-00342359-00342754 um but it really it doesn't share in any
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01379-00342755-00342899 cost
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01380-00342900-00343295 um benefits or or cost sharing is a risk
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01381-00343296-00343541 I would like to see it somehow evolve to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01382-00343542-00343877 that I understand how challenging that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01383-00343878-00343949 is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01384-00343950-00344356 but one way that I feel like I can get a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01385-00344357-00344615 shoe in if there's some extra dollars
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01386-00344616-00344879 and it wouldn't take much is to support
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01387-00344880-00345101 this um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01388-00345102-00345413 innovation in applying medically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01389-00345414-00345713 directed exercise to The Chronic Care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01390-00345714-00345953 Management model
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01391-00345954-00346367 so we've been doing that since 2003
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01392-00346368-00346793 um but it's to a small group because
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01393-00346794-00346997 insurance doesn't cover it so it's 100
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01394-00346998-00347256 out of pocket
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01395-00347257-00347573 but we have experienced people in this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01396-00347574-00347904 program reverse through chronic disease
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01397-00347905-00348173 going from
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01398-00348174-00348665 dozens of medications seriously down and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01399-00348666-00349039 um and seeing their Mental Health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01400-00349040-00349289 improve radically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01401-00349290-00349351 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01402-00349352-00349763 we know that the number one injury that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01403-00349764-00350123 gets a personal verse 65 into the ER is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01404-00350124-00350495 a fall and uh primary care doctors
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01405-00350496-00350747 offices really
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01406-00350748-00350980 aren't doing that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01407-00350981-00351310 um of of checking
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01408-00351311-00351523 um the balance in the physical
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01409-00351524-00351803 therapists have been doing that for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01410-00351804-00351989 years
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01411-00351990-00352295 um we also keep track of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01412-00352296-00352517 pretty much we're like primary care of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01413-00352518-00352787 the muscular skeletal system which is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01414-00352788-00352997 really fundamental to health
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01415-00352998-00353375 and I I see the primary care doctors in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01416-00353376-00353621 the doctor's offices take take more of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01417-00353622-00353843 the functioning of systems but the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01418-00353844-00354263 muscular cell skeletals is a system and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01419-00354264-00354569 it's and I think that if we tap into the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01420-00354570-00354880 potential of what a physical therapist
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01421-00354881-00355234 can provide I see annual visits
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01422-00355235-00355697 of both because we can catch when there
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01423-00355698-00355943 is a decline because we check range of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01424-00355944-00356219 motion and strength and endurance and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01425-00356220-00356465 and all of the factors that might
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01426-00356466-00356765 indicate a disease and we have and and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01427-00356766-00356980 doctors offices have certainly got
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01428-00356981-00357310 referrals from us because of our concern
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01429-00357311-00357569 um we also see people coming off the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01430-00357570-00358030 streets for uh free consultation and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01431-00358031-00358397 have had a lot of opportunities and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01432-00358398-00358528 prevention
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01433-00358529-00358943 so I'm just putting a plug in that we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01434-00358944-00359225 don't have blinders on to what
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01435-00359226-00359406 preventative care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01436-00359407-00359765 entails and make sure that we have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01437-00359766-00359995 funding
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01438-00359996-00360384 to the wide breadth of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01439-00360385-00360863 possibility especially in innovation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01440-00360864-00361325 um and I want to be a partner in that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01441-00361326-00361853 process of identifying and supporting
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01442-00361854-00362225 um preventative care Within
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01443-00362226-00362434 the profession
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01444-00362435-00362693 that I know really well
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01445-00362694-00363082 from not only being a PT but being a PT
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01446-00363083-00363293 practice owner
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01447-00363294-00363563 so if you can squeeze carve out a little
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01448-00363564-00363791 bit of funding come talk to me I'll put
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01449-00363792-00364115 it to good use and my program really
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01450-00364116-00364295 does
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01451-00364296-00364571 Depend and empower the individual in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01452-00364572-00364751 taking ownership of Health which is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01453-00364752-00364984 really rare in chronic disease and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01454-00364985-00365165 that's why we struggle
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01455-00365166-00365591 so my whole vested
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01456-00365592-00365897 interest from the get-go is helping that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01457-00365898-00366082 person figure out
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01458-00366083-00366353 what it is that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01459-00366354-00366587 they need to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01460-00366588-00366917 take on their care indefinitely for a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01461-00366918-00367223 lifetime
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01462-00367224-00367373 that's it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01463-00367374-00367643 thanks
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01464-00367644-00367775 um Miss Scotland thank you very much for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01465-00367776-00367949 that important comment I think your
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01466-00367950-00368110 points resonated with a lot of us so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01467-00368111-00368273 thank you for sharing them
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01468-00368274-00368819 um Miss Julie Wasserman
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01469-00368820-00368980 right
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01470-00368981-00369310 um okay yes Julie Wasserman I do
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01471-00369311-00369647 freelance work with uh Health policy
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01472-00369648-00370097 um my comments uh concern primarily one
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01473-00370098-00370439 cares Medicaid enrollees
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01474-00370440-00370810 and they it does relate to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01475-00370811-00370984 discussion today about primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01476-00370985-00371297 because a lot of the care that Medicaid
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01477-00371298-00371465 enrollees receive
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01478-00371466-00371717 is primary care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01479-00371718-00371945 um Medicaid's continuous coverage
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01480-00371946-00372227 requirement that has been enforced
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01481-00372228-00372527 because of the pandemic is ending in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01482-00372528-00372701 less than 30 days
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01483-00372702-00373187 uh Diva will be resuming its uh normal
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01484-00373188-00373553 eligibility and enrollment operations at
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01485-00373554-00373751 that time
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01486-00373752-00374134 um and so within 30 days diva is back to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01487-00374135-00374506 its uh routine uh eligibility and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01488-00374507-00374753 enrollment operations uh the result of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01489-00374754-00375047 that uh we'll we'll start to see that in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01490-00375048-00375425 on May 31st Medicaid enrollees who are
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01491-00375426-00375647 no longer eligible will lose their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01492-00375648-00376073 coverage beginning May 31st
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01493-00376074-00376367 um the urban Institute uh produced a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01494-00376368-00376619 report several months ago in December
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01495-00376620-00377087 and that report estimated that 29 000
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01496-00377088-00377453 vermonters are expected to lose their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01497-00377454-00377632 Medicaid coverage because they're no
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01498-00377633-00377806 longer eligible
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01499-00377807-00378280 uh 29 000 lives Medicaid lives uh is a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01500-00378281-00378353 lot
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01501-00378354-00378604 um it's an estimate so we'll have to see
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01502-00378605-00378977 how that pans out but um many many of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01503-00378978-00379384 those lives are uh covered by one cares
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01504-00379385-00379595 um Medicaid ACO
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01505-00379596-00379889 so I suspect that this will have a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01506-00379890-00380089 noticeable effect on the number of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01507-00380090-00380519 Medicaid lives that the ACO uh serves
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01508-00380520-00380717 this year
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01509-00380718-00380939 um so my question is can one care take
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01510-00380940-00381245 this into account in its revised 2023
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01511-00381246-00382030 budget which is due on March 31st
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01512-00382031-00382493 great thank you very much on them
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01513-00382494-00382787 um uh next uh Robert Hoffman Mr Hoffman
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01514-00382788-00383260 how are you please go ahead
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01515-00383261-00383549 hi thank you chair Foster uh I wanted to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01516-00383550-00383806 make a comment about the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01517-00383807-00384065 impact of potentially lost shared
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01518-00384066-00384197 savings
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01519-00384198-00384304 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01520-00384305-00384587 it's important to point out that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01521-00384588-00384880 on this matter savings for Blue Cross
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01522-00384881-00385258 Blue Shield historically have been
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01523-00385259-00385577 at Best in material and historically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01524-00385578-00385756 mostly non-existent
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01525-00385757-00385967 so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01526-00385968-00386219 it actually gets at the heart of why you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01527-00386220-00386447 all are having this conversation today
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01528-00386448-00386827 if the ACO had been able to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01529-00386828-00387173 demonstrate value on behalf of its
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01530-00387174-00387443 attributed lives there likely would have
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01531-00387444-00387737 been shared savings uh more material
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01532-00387738-00387995 ones and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01533-00387996-00388187 at least Blue Cross would have something
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01534-00388188-00388397 they could point to to demonstrate that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01535-00388398-00388619 the model was working
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01536-00388620-00388889 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01537-00388890-00389134 I think an important number I'm not sure
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01538-00389135-00389369 why everyone's overlooking it it's in
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01539-00389370-00389554 the presentation today
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01540-00389555-00389819 uh the nearly one hundred thousand
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01541-00389820-00390065 dollar modest savings
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01542-00390066-00390353 from administrative burden associated
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01543-00390354-00390647 with one-third of the revenue being lost
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01544-00390648-00391019 equates to just one basis point that's
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01545-00391020-00391204 not a percentage Point that's a basis
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01546-00391205-00391475 point of the total 15 million dollar
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01547-00391476-00391673 administrative budget it's actually
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01548-00391674-00391973 closer to half of one basis point
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01549-00391974-00392099 so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01550-00392100-00392380 we can reasonably infer that the ACL is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01551-00392381-00392584 telling you historically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01552-00392585-00392980 uh they allocated half a basis point
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01553-00392981-00393323 for working on and Performing work on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01554-00393324-00393484 behalf of Blue Cross Blue Shield if
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01555-00393485-00393599 that's what all they're saying they're
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01556-00393600-00393869 losing and are gaining in terms of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01557-00393870-00394145 uh efficiency
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01558-00394146-00394360 uh in their budget
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01559-00394361-00394541 so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01560-00394542-00394606 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01561-00394607-00394913 I think it's important
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01562-00394914-00395321 to reflect on that as you all consider
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01563-00395322-00395489 the budget submission at the end of this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01564-00395490-00395825 month does that seem uh reasonable to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01565-00395826-00396101 you that for a reduction in one third of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01566-00396102-00396234 Revenue
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01567-00396235-00396460 we're only going to reduce the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01568-00396461-00396695 administrative budget by
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01569-00396696-00397043 uh half of one basis
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01570-00397044-00397330 to member lungi's comments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01571-00397331-00397397 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01572-00397398-00397589 I think she does a disservice to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01573-00397590-00397891 public today to suggest that this is
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01574-00397892-00398254 merely a breakdown in negotiations
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01575-00398255-00398573 uh Blue Cross unlike
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01576-00398574-00398825 Vermont's Medicaid Program sees itself
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01577-00398826-00399160 as having a sacred role as a fiduciary
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01578-00399161-00399275 to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01579-00399276-00399604 taxpayer and premium payer dollars and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01580-00399605-00399827 the issue is not a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01581-00399828-00400069 a matter of breakdown in negotiations
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01582-00400070-00400378 but it's an issue of non-performance
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01583-00400379-00400528 and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01584-00400529-00400834 uh echoing member Walsh's comments
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01585-00400835-00401056 during the budget season at a certain
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01586-00401057-00401302 point this starts to feel wasteful when
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01587-00401303-00401513 people can't access care
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01588-00401514-00401813 when morbidity rates are increasing as
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01589-00401814-00402041 our mortality rates in some cases as a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01590-00402042-00402202 result of not being able to access
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01591-00402203-00402437 specialists in a timely manner
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01592-00402438-00402569 so
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01593-00402570-00402808 it's disingenuous at best
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01594-00402809-00403030 for members lunges and and homes to
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01595-00403031-00403189 suggest that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01596-00403190-00403523 there they take exception to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01597-00403524-00403813 negotiations breaking down and moreover
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01598-00403814-00404195 they disavow their own role historically
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01599-00404196-00404627 in ignoring as early as 2018 public
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01600-00404628-00404908 comment indicating grave concerns about
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01601-00404909-00405173 non-performance at which time member
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01602-00405174-00405358 homes
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01603-00405359-00405619 went on a rather lengthy seven minute
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01604-00405620-00405775 diatribe
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01605-00405776-00405977 condescending to the public about their
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01606-00405978-00406289 misplaced concerns
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01607-00406290-00406684 we are at this point in the conversation
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01608-00406685-00406984 because we have a too big to fail
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01609-00406985-00407206 organization that hasn't
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01610-00407207-00407267 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01611-00407268-00407471 deliver the results for a major
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01612-00407472-00407765 commercial payer and that is a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01613-00407766-00408034 non-performance issue and I trust that
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01614-00408035-00408210 you all will
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01615-00408211-00408517 dispense seeing this as just a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01616-00408518-00408917 annoyance of poor contract negotiations
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01617-00408918-00409121 not culminating in what you'd hope for
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01618-00409122-00409487 and see this as a major signal much more
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01619-00409488-00409720 than a canary in a coal mine that this
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01620-00409721-00409843 model
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01621-00409843-00410207 as has been publicly litigated legally
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01622-00410208-00410524 litigated for five years now has very
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01623-00410525-00410789 serious systemic flaws and if you all
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01624-00410789-00411028 wait till the end of 24 to figure out
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01625-00411029-00411287 what your plan B is you will have set up
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01626-00411288-00411510 a too big to fail organization
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01627-00411512-00412009 without some off-ramp that reasonably
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01628-00412010-00412301 supports the primary care practices most
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01629-00412302-00412726 of all because you have not visioned a
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01630-00412727-00413082 way to disperse
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01631-00413083-00413357 quality-based payments to the state of
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01632-00413358-00413609 Vermont as you all remain existentially
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01633-00413610-00413872 committed to that form of reimbursement
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01634-00413873-00414104 thank you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01635-00414105-00414353 [Music]
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01636-00414354-00414460 okay
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01637-00414462-00414701 um I don't see any other hands
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01638-00414702-00414893 um we raise it this time I appreciate
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01639-00414893-00415187 all the feedback and thoughts um I'll
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01640-00415188-00415432 just say you know as board members we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01641-00415433-00415559 all certainly try to make our best
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01642-00415560-00415822 judgments and we we don't we often fail
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01643-00415823-00416074 to make everyone pleased
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01644-00416075-00416237 um but we appreciate everyone raising
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01645-00416238-00416405 their hand and sharing their views I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01646-00416406-00416513 think it's really important to the
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01647-00416514-00416668 process
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01648-00416669-00416824 um I'm quite often criticized myself
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01649-00416825-00417143 probably correctly sometimes and so we
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01650-00417143-00417299 appreciate people raising their hands
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01651-00417300-00417484 and sharing their views
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01652-00417485-00417670 um and and a lot of these insights are
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01653-00417671-00417814 things I had not thought of so I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01654-00417816-00417995 appreciate the the feedback on these
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01655-00417996-00418222 they're very important
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01656-00418223-00418528 um and with that I think we are done on
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01657-00418529-00418853 this portion of today's hearing
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01658-00418854-00418978 um
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01659-00418979-00419182 I have nothing else miss melamed Mr
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01660-00419183-00419668 McCracken are you guys all set
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01661-00419669-00419879 I have no further comments today thank
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01662-00419880-00419963 you
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01663-00419964-00420137 great
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01664-00420138-00420310 um is there any old business to come
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01665-00420312-00420910 before the board
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01666-00420912-00421229 any new business
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01667-00421230-00421697 and is there a motion to adjourn
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01668-00421697-00421925 tell moved
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01669-00421926-00422153 second I'll second it
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01670-00422154-00422381 all those in favor
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01671-00422382-00422479 aye hi hi
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01672-00422480-00422716 thank you everyone for your work and
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01673-00422717-00422860 Marissa and Russ in particular I
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01674-00422862-00423222 appreciate it have a good day
+zrCWeQiKJFY-01675-00423222-00424995 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00000-00000039-00000199 hey what's up everyone thank you so much
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00001-00000200-00000407 for tuning in my name is dustin ripkins
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00002-00000408-00000559 with ripped with ripkens and this is
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00003-00000560-00000839 your advanced 10 minute cardio workout
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00004-00000840-00000983 you don't need any equipment just
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00005-00000984-00001087 yourself
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00006-00001088-00001358 and this is perfect if you want to level
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00007-00001359-00001543 up your cardio game it's going to be a
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00008-00001544-00001767 lot we're gonna be drenched we maybe
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00009-00001768-00001982 need to break in between but we're gonna
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00010-00001984-00002191 give our best if you need to modify or
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00011-00002192-00002495 slow down slow down but let's really
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00012-00002496-00002823 just kick some booty are you ready let's
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00013-00002824-00003100 go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00014-00003101-00003303 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00015-00003304-00003583 here we go the timer is on we have one
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00016-00003584-00003870 minute for each move 10 moves ready
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00017-00003871-00004022 we're gonna start with four jumping
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00018-00004023-00004295 jacks eight runs in three two one let's
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00019-00004296-00004599 go four jumping jacks
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00020-00004600-00004854 and eight runs
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00021-00004855-00005095 now you can stay with my temple or you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00022-00005096-00005383 can go faster or slower whenever you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00023-00005384-00005502 need
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00024-00005503-00005759 just really challenge yourself
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00025-00005760-00005975 make sure your abdominals are nice and
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00026-00005976-00006247 tight to protect the landing you want to
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00027-00006248-00006439 end through the feet we put our
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00028-00006440-00007006 abdominals on us to stay light okay
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00029-00007008-00007623 come on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00030-00007623-00007774 you guys really feel the neighbor
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00031-00007775-00007910 pulling it
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00032-00007911-00008063 and
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00033-00008064-00008199 strong arms
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00034-00008200-00008431 be on the tip of your toes or better on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00035-00008432-00008831 the parts of your feet and jump jump if
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00036-00008832-00008974 you need to modify
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00037-00008975-00009167 you can always modify people just slow
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00038-00009168-00009246 down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00039-00009247-00009383 slow down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00040-00009384-00009471 but
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00041-00009472-00009606 do not stop
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00042-00009607-00009831 you can walk it out catch your breath
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00043-00009832-00010046 and then come right back in
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00044-00010047-00010174 four more seconds then we're gonna go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00045-00010175-00010335 into eight skaters
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00046-00010336-00010646 and then eight jumps eight skaters
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00047-00010647-00010846 side to side
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00048-00010847-00011023 come nice and low
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00049-00011024-00011199 and bring your feet together jump front
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00050-00011200-00011765 and back front
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00051-00011766-00012670 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00052-00012671-00012899 working two legs together
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00053-00012900-00013222 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00054-00013223-00013399 careful with leaning back
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00055-00013400-00013913 keep the upper body forward
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00056-00013913-00014430 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00057-00014431-00014622 i know our heart rate is already totally
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00058-00014623-00014683 upright
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00059-00014684-00015094 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00060-00015095-00015303 now this workout is really challenging
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00061-00015304-00015399 for me
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00062-00015400-00015566 for myself as well
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00063-00015568-00015679 but
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00064-00015680-00016047 i always like me a good challenge
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00065-00016047-00016183 one more three
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00066-00016184-00016263 two
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00067-00016263-00016519 we're gonna shuffle chocolate chocolate
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00068-00016520-00016630 down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00069-00016631-00016935 up clap chop the chocolate chocolate
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00070-00016936-00017079 up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00071-00017080-00017239 so we're gonna shuffle
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00072-00017240-00017439 right into the sprawl
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00073-00017440-00017671 if the jump is too much you can step
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00074-00017672-00018071 and always step
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00075-00018072-00018286 let's go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00076-00018287-00018711 careful with our hips
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00077-00018712-00018927 our hips want to stay nice and up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00078-00018928-00019111 when we go down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00079-00019112-00019350 so we're not hanging through our plank
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00080-00019351-00019919 halfway
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00081-00019920-00020055 yes
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00082-00020056-00020873 let's go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00083-00020874-00021239 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00084-00021240-00021348 ten seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00085-00021349-00021935 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00086-00021936-00022214 five seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00087-00022215-00022367 i'm gonna go on an angle we're gonna go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00088-00022368-00022535 into mountain climbers carefully calm
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00089-00022536-00022727 down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00090-00022728-00022903 i'm downloading
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00091-00022904-00023063 mountain private
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00092-00023064-00023191 for one
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00093-00023192-00023455 minute i know
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00094-00023456-00023583 i told you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00095-00023584-00023719 it's advanced
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00096-00023720-00024247 we're leveling up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00097-00024248-00025294 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00098-00025295-00025494 30 more seconds keep going
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00099-00025495-00025662 keep your abdominals strong shoulders
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00100-00025663-00025872 over your palms
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00101-00025873-00026150 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00102-00026151-00026246 find
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00103-00026247-00026399 the motivation
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00104-00026400-00026535 to keep going
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00105-00026536-00026743 if your mind and your head
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00106-00026744-00026911 keeps telling your body
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00107-00026912-00027046 to keep going
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00108-00027047-00027287 your body works your body doesn't just
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00109-00027288-00027374 stop
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00110-00027375-00027831 it's your mind stopping you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00111-00027832-00028102 push out of your shoulders five seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00112-00028104-00028279 three two
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00113-00028280-00028407 one come up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00114-00028408-00028535 same thing
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00115-00028536-00028814 standing multiple primers
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00116-00028816-00028968 punch up drop your knees up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00117-00028969-00029335 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00118-00029336-00029679 yes
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00119-00029680-00029870 keep your dominance tight
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00120-00029872-00030087 punch it up nice and strong
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00121-00030088-00030174 lift it use up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00122-00030175-00030943 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00123-00030944-00031895 go go go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00124-00031895-00032487 dominance
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00125-00032488-00032729 keep fighting
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00126-00032730-00032935 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00127-00032936-00033266 can we go faster
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00128-00033267-00033751 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00129-00033752-00034055 let's be careful five seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00130-00034056-00034167 three
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00131-00034168-00034343 two
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00132-00034344-00034551 one let's say what's up one knee
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00133-00034552-00034767 jump from the side looks like this
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00134-00034768-00034927 jump
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00135-00034928-00035015 jump
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00136-00035016-00035159 that's too much
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00137-00035160-00035318 take the jump out and tap
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00138-00035319-00035462 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00139-00035463-00035590 all right
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00140-00035591-00036220 30 seconds on each leg
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00141-00036221-00036607 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00142-00036608-00036727 stop
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00143-00036728-00037215 keep going
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00144-00037216-00038318 and switch aside other side
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00145-00038319-00038812 20 seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00146-00038813-00039407 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00147-00039408-00039607 ten seconds keep going come on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00148-00039608-00039783 fight strong through your leg
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00149-00039784-00039951 do not stop
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00150-00039952-00040030 keep
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00151-00040031-00040151 the fight
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00152-00040152-00040255 on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00153-00040256-00040399 and
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00154-00040400-00040659 hands up four times
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00155-00040660-00041135 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00156-00041136-00041302 30 seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00157-00041303-00041826 one leg 30 seconds the other leg
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00158-00041827-00042199 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00159-00042200-00042383 i love it
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00160-00042384-00042726 let it sweat come on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00161-00042727-00043327 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00162-00043328-00043462 other side
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00163-00043463-00043671 only three and a half minutes left
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00164-00043672-00043831 yes you can yes you will
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00165-00043832-00043990 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00166-00043991-00044167 what is your motivation
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00167-00044168-00044351 why are you keep going
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00168-00044352-00044646 my motivation right here it's you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00169-00044647-00044839 yeah i'm right here with you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00170-00044840-00045023 you're keeping me going right now
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00171-00045024-00045230 because i know if i don't go
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00172-00045231-00045415 maybe there's a chance
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00173-00045416-00045573 you stop as
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00174-00045574-00046283 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00175-00046284-00046479 well all right have a look we're going
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00176-00046480-00046702 to go back down onto the floor
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00177-00046703-00047143 feet open colors
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00178-00047144-00047286 okay that's too much
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00179-00047287-00047594 let's have one leg and then the other
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00180-00047595-00047774 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00181-00047775-00047958 chest between your palms
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00182-00047959-00048174 breathe
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00183-00048175-00048367 now squeeze your booty
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00184-00048368-00048558 now your booty will help you
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00185-00048559-00049599 to keep your upper body solid
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00186-00049600-00050107 that's right two and a half minutes
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00187-00050108-00050246 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00188-00050247-00050367 shift your weight forward again up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00189-00050368-00050560 downwards tight
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00190-00050561-00051109 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00191-00051110-00051287 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00192-00051288-00051790 10 seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00193-00051791-00052230 5 seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00194-00052232-00052390 and coming up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00195-00052391-00052526 two moves
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00196-00052527-00052671 we've got lunch
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00197-00052672-00052911 lift up throw as if you're throwing your
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00198-00052912-00053054 medicine ball
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00199-00053055-00053326 got medicine ball throw
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00200-00053327-00053479 what hit the floor
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00201-00053479-00053950 come on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00202-00053951-00054119 use the force out of your shoulders not
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00203-00054120-00054230 dominant
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00204-00054232-00054359 really imagine
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00205-00054360-00054511 you have 30 pounds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00206-00054512-00054694 of a medicine ball in your head
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00207-00054695-00054879 you're pushing it down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00208-00054879-00054982 down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00209-00054983-00055126 what kind of pressure would there be on
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00210-00055127-00055313 your body
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00211-00055314-00056063 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00212-00056064-00056238 come on come on come on give me more i'm
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00213-00056239-00056438 coming over let's speed it up a little
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00214-00056439-00056534 bit
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00215-00056535-00057182 [Music]
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00216-00057183-00057423 i'm totally out of breath too it's okay
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00217-00057424-00057887 10 seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00218-00057888-00058126 five seconds
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00219-00058127-00058542 we're finished with burpees
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00220-00058544-00058654 up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00221-00058655-00058759 down
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00222-00058760-00058871 push up
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00223-00058872-00059119 jump in jump ups
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00224-00059120-00059535 bend your knees on your landing
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00225-00059536-00059879 if that's too much you can always walk
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00226-00059879-00059991 meaning
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00227-00059991-00060126 you don't jump your legs and you walk
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+zrOp_8cxIBk-00248-00065936-00066126 you can do it over and over again
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00249-00066127-00066343 tomorrow next week the week after
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00250-00066344-00066511 if it was a challenge
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+zrOp_8cxIBk-00254-00066927-00067119 i'm still working on walking
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+zrOp_8cxIBk-00261-00068224-00068511 need to get my breath
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00262-00068512-00068775 that was good
+zrOp_8cxIBk-00263-00068776-00069172 all right see you next time
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00000-00000014-00000347 good morning i hope you didn't have such
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00001-00000348-00000524 a great time last night that you can't
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00002-00000525-00000824 stand being conscious this morning not
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00003-00000825-00001090 here memorialize you for the future
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00004-00001091-00001726 everyone smile and write everything we
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00005-00001727-00002012 do is recorded I'm conscious of time so
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00006-00002013-00002441 I would proceed oh I'd like to speak
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00007-00002442-00002641 about today our trends that are driving
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00008-00002642-00002977 changes in education worldwide yesterday
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00009-00002978-00003142 I spoke about transformations that are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00010-00003143-00003392 technological this morning I could speak
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00011-00003393-00003613 about other drivers and other
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00012-00003614-00003997 technologies in higher education this is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00013-00003998-00004253 a shot from where I live I'm from the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00014-00004254-00004490 United States it was about minus 20
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00015-00004491-00004691 centigrade which we consider a little
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00016-00004692-00005029 little chilly not too cold I'm going to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00017-00005030-00005179 be speaking from the perspective of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00018-00005180-00005426 United States with a global perspective
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00019-00005427-00005750 added to it because we have quite a lot
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00020-00005751-00005975 of influence on the world in the United
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00021-00005976-00006188 States and our development is actually
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00022-00006189-00006592 pretty interesting unfortunately we r q
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00023-00006593-00006866 interesting at times I don't know if
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00024-00006867-00007019 I'll be allowed back in my country this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00025-00007020-00007517 weekend obviously we've been going
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00026-00007518-00007964 through some changes so if you want to
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00028-00008129-00008335 higher education you have to examine
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00029-00008336-00008552 certain trends in the present used to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00030-00008553-00008874 examine forces that have power to drive
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00031-00008875-00009106 transformations and universities and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00032-00009107-00009283 colleges as well as libraries museums
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00033-00009284-00009499 that's all be dealing over the next few
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00034-00009500-00009926 minutes to begin with this is basically
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00035-00009927-00010064 the research project I've been doing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00036-00010065-00010367 since 2012 this is called future trends
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00037-00010368-00010553 and Technology education it's a monthly
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00038-00010554-00010766 report that is based on looking at a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00039-00010767-00011009 horizon scan to look for current
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00040-00011010-00011149 developments that are affecting
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00041-00011150-00011648 education mostly higher education one of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00042-00011649-00011819 these that we have to bear in mind and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00043-00011820-00012088 of course for an audience like this you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00044-00012089-00012317 know this pretty well is the increasing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00045-00012318-00012578 globalization of higher education that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00046-00012579-00012776 sounds like a cliche we think about
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00047-00012777-00013027 globalization at all times but vital to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00048-00013028-00013147 recognize that this is beginning to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00049-00013148-00013255 change university
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00050-00013256-00013550 so for example over the past 15 years
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00051-00013551-00013841 we've seen an almost arms race of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00052-00013841-00014030 universities being built up and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00053-00014031-00014297 education systems being built up you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00054-00014297-00014523 think for example where the Germans here
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00055-00014524-00014741 of course you have the excellence
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00056-00014741-00014938 initiative we're government spent a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00057-00014940-00015194 great deal money billions of euros in
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00058-00015194-00015409 order to improve higher education you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00059-00015410-00015599 can think about China right now which is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00060-00015600-00015787 building more universities and more
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00061-00015788-00015955 university capacity than any
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00062-00015956-00016228 civilization in human history if you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00063-00016229-00016363 take a look at the Middle East which
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00064-00016365-00016537 while they still have money is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00065-00016538-00016736 desperately trying to build up as much
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00066-00016737-00016952 capacity as many institutions as they
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00067-00016953-00017192 can and in your course you have the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00068-00017193-00017419 higher education area a tremendous
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00069-00017420-00017592 achievement power by the Bologna process
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00070-00017593-00017825 so we're seeing this happened in the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00071-00017826-00018077 global stage this is unusual especially
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00072-00018078-00018367 compared to the 20th century we're also
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00073-00018368-00018542 seeing the growth of transnational
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00074-00018543-00018745 students of students moving between
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00075-00018746-00019025 campuses and between nations some of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00076-00019026-00019228 lead destinations include Great Britain
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00077-00019229-00019478 Canada is especially appealing the per
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00078-00019479-00019747 capita basis in East Asia we're seeing a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00079-00019748-00019921 lot of Chinese students moving across
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00080-00019922-00020119 the Pacific but we're also seeing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00081-00020120-00020374 different nations making plays for power
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00082-00020375-00020608 and for the ability to attract more
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00083-00020609-00020809 students from Southeast Asia and in
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00084-00020810-00021121 Central Asia meanwhile racine campuses
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00085-00021122-00021415 build presences abroad for example the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00086-00021416-00021608 United States campus Yale built a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00087-00021609-00021808 liberal arts college in Singapore which
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00088-00021809-00022042 is still controversial we're seeing the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00089-00022043-00022294 Middle East almost shopping malls filled
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00090-00022295-00022502 with different campuses from around the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00091-00022503-00022825 world in short our old idea of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00092-00022826-00023102 university as regional as national as
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00093-00023103-00023896 local is increasingly obsolete this is a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00094-00023897-00024106 quick screenshot of the project I was
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00095-00024107-00024328 working on last night when I do weekly
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00096-00024329-00024511 video conference where we have several
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00097-00024512-00024730 hundred people discussing the future of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00098-00024731-00025000 education technology and you can tell
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00099-00025001-00025219 here that we have a pretty wide global
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00100-00025220-00025477 response so far but this is the kind of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00101-00025478-00025633 network I'd like you to keep in mind
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00102-00025634-00026068 that meanwhile within education we're
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00103-00026069-00026306 having policy transformations and many
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00104-00026307-00026475 of you here especially those of working
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00105-00026476-00026679 industries this is obvious but I want to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00106-00026680-00026805 put this on the table for all to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00107-00026806-00027138 consider for example we are experiencing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00108-00027139-00027405 a global sustained movement to reform
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00109-00027406-00027639 higher education the take college and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00110-00027639-00027864 university outcomes and improve them to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00111-00027864-00028064 take a look at faculty and transform
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00112-00028066-00028364 them this is almost unprecedented in
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00113-00028366-00028620 European history in North American
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00114-00028620-00028773 history we have a tradition of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00115-00028774-00028998 criticizing universities we have a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00116-00028999-00029133 tradition of wanting them to become
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00117-00029133-00029376 better but we rarely have this kind of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00118-00029377-00029652 sustained continuous pressure to rebuild
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00119-00029652-00029898 them what part of that is we're seeing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00120-00029899-00030002 the development of new pilots
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00121-00030004-00030252 recertification everything from micro
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00122-00030252-00030456 credentials to corporate certificates
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00123-00030457-00030720 the idea is to go around what
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00124-00030720-00030948 universities can do I think about the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00125-00030949-00031143 challenge of that and we see this with
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00126-00031144-00031383 block Shane the idea of taking the crown
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00127-00031383-00031623 jewel of higher education the ability to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00128-00031624-00031827 certify learning for the world to save
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00129-00031827-00032232 and outflank that moreover we're seeing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00130-00032233-00032460 the rise of new business models new ways
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00131-00032461-00032714 of paying for and supporting education
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00132-00032714-00033120 this slide alone points to a galaxy of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00133-00033121-00033330 possibilities that really change what we
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00134-00033331-00033831 think of in higher education I work as a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00135-00033832-00034113 futurist part of my job is to anticipate
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00136-00034114-00034356 what will come next this is very very
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00137-00034357-00034635 difficult to do statistically humans are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00138-00034636-00034941 terrible predictions in fact the recent
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00139-00034942-00035070 books took a look at political
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00140-00035071-00035280 scientists predictions about the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00141-00035281-00035472 near-term future and found that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00142-00035473-00035730 political scientists were less accurate
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00143-00035731-00036027 that a random guess so you regret they
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00144-00036028-00036246 are off of the dart board or a coin toss
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00145-00036247-00036455 than with a professional prognosticator
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00146-00036456-00036822 that said one trend that we can always
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00147-00036823-00037068 look for that rarely changes is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00148-00037069-00037371 demographics once a population is born
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00149-00037372-00037617 there's a lot of predicted power and how
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00150-00037618-00037809 they will behave over the lifetimes
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00151-00037810-00037965 unless something truly extraordinary
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00152-00037966-00038289 happens we can bet on a lot of it so
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00153-00038290-00038505 right now we're seeing a fascinating
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00154-00038506-00038757 split in the world the developed world
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00155-00038758-00039018 the developed nations are aging and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00156-00039019-00039282 their youth population is shrinking more
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00157-00039283-00039473 than relative and absolute terms
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00158-00039474-00039744 meanwhile their senior population their
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00159-00039745-00039855 elder population
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00160-00039856-00040074 is growing as you can see sure around
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00161-00040075-00040557 this room what this means is fascinating
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00162-00040558-00040989 so for example this chart is the picture
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00163-00040990-00041243 of human history until the 20th century
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00164-00041244-00041517 this is a demographic analysis of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00165-00041518-00041907 population nigeria right now every slice
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00166-00041908-00042111 of this represents a chunk of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00167-00042112-00042324 population the very bottom is people
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00168-00042325-00042585 ages zero to four then five to nine then
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00169-00042586-00042840 10 to 14 and so on and you can see that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00170-00042841-00043002 this is the population and it's terrific
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00171-00043003-00043227 producing children thank you think of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00172-00043228-00043521 humanity as a giant spam bot throwing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00173-00043522-00043719 out lots and lots of children and then
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00174-00043720-00043944 mortality sets in and year by year
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00175-00043945-00044202 decade by decade ladles it down until we
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00176-00044203-00044493 have lots of babies lots of kids a good
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00177-00044494-00044658 amount of middle-aged smaller and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00178-00044659-00044868 smaller and so on this is what history
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00179-00044869-00045078 looked like until the 20th century this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00180-00045079-00045273 is what most the developing world looks
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00181-00045274-00045687 like this is what the developed world
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00182-00045688-00045984 looks like once you have several factors
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00183-00045985-00046215 in place once you have modern medicine
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00184-00046216-00046536 modern sanitation and above all once you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00185-00046537-00046779 have women going to school for a long
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00186-00046780-00047031 time you have fewer and fewer children
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00187-00047032-00047331 and adults living longer and longer so
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00188-00047332-00047786 that pyramid is now flipped upside down
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00189-00047787-00048096 this chart by the way is one reason why
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00190-00048097-00048369 Japan is so crazy for robots they are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00191-00048370-00048651 running out of workers and this is one
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00192-00048652-00048923 way to replace them it's not just Japan
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00193-00048924-00049140 this is the United States the best
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00194-00049141-00049431 predictions we have for 2020 and you can
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00195-00049432-00049802 see this is a rectangle not a pyramid I
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00196-00049803-00050021 think of this as a refrigerator actually
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00197-00050022-00050331 and you can see that we have famously
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00198-00050332-00050562 the baby boom generation is a special
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00199-00050563-00050715 color extensive dated them they look at
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00200-00050716-00050892 their special treatment you can see that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00201-00050893-00051054 far from being a young country the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00202-00051055-00051239 United States is now middle-aged country
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00203-00051240-00051576 aging rapidly what this means for our
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00204-00051577-00051813 culture's is fascinating what this means
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00205-00051814-00052007 for our economics what this means for
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00206-00052008-00052289 our politics here for example is friends
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00207-00052290-00052461 and you can tell them to the country
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00208-00052462-00052611 they're very healthy middle-aged and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00209-00052612-00053080 Asian population is Germany
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00210-00053082-00053478 so how do you supply an economy when you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00211-00053479-00053700 have fewer workers and fewer tax payers
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00212-00053701-00053961 how do you pay for pensions and health
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00213-00053962-00054167 care these are some of the challenges
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00214-00054169-00054513 when it comes to education demographics
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00215-00054514-00054696 like this say that the 18 year old
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00216-00054697-00054980 population is small and perhaps a niche
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00217-00054982-00055254 market what happens when your primary
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00218-00055254-00055521 market is adult that isn't our image of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00219-00055522-00055739 most of higher education last night
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00220-00055740-00055983 somebody pointed out that we were paying
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00221-00055984-00056196 enough attention to corporate learning
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00222-00056197-00056382 workforce training vocational training
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00223-00056383-00056604 this is one reason why we should pay
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00224-00056604-00057027 more attention in the United States I
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00225-00057028-00057186 want to put a few interesting examples
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00226-00057187-00057426 that may surprise you now we have a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00227-00057427-00057645 great deal in migration people moving
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00228-00057646-00057852 across States and one of the fascinating
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00229-00057853-00058098 things is when you think of New York
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00230-00058099-00058347 when you think of Chicago when you think
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00231-00058348-00058620 of Boston those are decreasing Lee
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00232-00058621-00058860 interesting and useful most people are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00233-00058861-00059124 leaving those areas for the south I know
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00234-00059125-00059421 you're all fascinated by Texas Texas as
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00235-00059422-00059637 our leading population center it's the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00236-00059638-00059871 only state which has a growth population
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00237-00059872-00060162 of children that changes our complexion
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00238-00060163-00060528 in many ways beyond demographics we can
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00239-00060529-00060720 speak of economics and there's a good
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00240-00060721-00060866 reasonable economics is usually called
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00241-00060867-00061149 the dismal science several forces are
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00243-00061366-00061580 scale which is changing what we do in
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00244-00061582-00061847 colleges and universities so for example
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00245-00061848-00062124 it's pretty well known that income
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00247-00062359-00062637 increasing this is a chart adapted from
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00248-00062638-00062804 the great work of Thomas bacchetti I'm
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00251-00063267-00063466 and we just break this down for a sec
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00254-00064009-00064236 the very very bottom would be perfect
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00255-00064237-00064505 communism the horizontal line is time
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00256-00064507-00064710 and you could tell that the very far
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00257-00064711-00065085 left circa 1900 1910 these countries and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00258-00065086-00065265 this here is Anglophone mix of Britain
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00259-00065266-00065508 the United States Canada Australia that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00260-00065509-00065682 we were excellent at income inequality
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00261-00065683-00065901 we're very unequal it will call this the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00262-00065902-00066044 Great Gatsby
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00263-00066045-00066492 from 1910 to 1950 income inequality
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00264-00066493-00066768 dropped thanks to World War one the
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00267-00067327-00067621 had perhaps the least unequal societies
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00268-00067622-00067965 we've ever experienced from 1952 circa
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00269-00067966-00068215 nineteen eighty so the economist called
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00270-00068216-00068451 us the great compression we had the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00271-00068452-00068769 least differences by class for all kinds
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00272-00068770-00069171 of reasons circa nineteen eighty that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00273-00069172-00069450 trend reverses and inequality begins to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00274-00069451-00069642 rise again for all kinds of reasons
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00275-00069643-00069828 which we could talk about having to do
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00276-00069829-00069981 with the growth of financial sector
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00277-00069982-00070263 increasing trade capital flows and so on
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00278-00070264-00070482 but the point here is that income
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00279-00070483-00070710 inequality has resumed we are now at
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00280-00070711-00070996 circa 1920s levels and increasing their
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00281-00070997-00071265 almost no forces retarding this so you
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00283-00071467-00071691 in higher education what does it mean to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00284-00071692-00071934 be at a university designed to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00285-00071935-00072396 facilitate and enhance inequality or the
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00287-00072598-00072843 are they in opposition to this we
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00289-00073131-00073515 in some countries we are watching the
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00292-00073978-00074106 conversation with a public university
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00293-00074107-00074394 president in Wisconsin I can't tell you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00294-00074395-00074541 the university and you'll see why I
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00295-00074542-00074913 asked him what jobs are your graduates
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00296-00074914-00075206 prepared for and he said I don't know oh
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00297-00075207-00075444 wait a minute here's a president of a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00298-00075445-00075646 university you can't not know he said
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00299-00075647-00075831 well we used to have assembly line
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00301-00076039-00076206 first in their generation to have a
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00304-00076618-00076803 anymore what will you have is the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00305-00076804-00077262 service sector so I don't know this is a
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00307-00077500-00077721 all familiar with this chart it's called
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00309-00077977-00078255 by Bronco Milanovic and he was taking a
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00311-00078424-00078777 stage it was interesting about this the
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00321-00081483-00081786 that's the middle class and in the
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00323-00081961-00082182 working class who saw their incomes
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00324-00082183-00082437 stagnate or not go forward at all or
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00325-00082438-00082788 actually go backwards that is the Trump
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00326-00082789-00082984 oh by the way if you're looking for a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00327-00082985-00083247 single explanation this is an
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00328-00083248-00083478 interesting chart to think about this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00329-00083479-00083661 helps shape in many ways some of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00330-00083662-00083832 feelings of workers around the world
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00331-00083833-00084030 those who are expecting and enjoying
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00332-00084031-00084198 great growth and those who are seeing if
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00333-00084199-00084444 not go the same way again in higher
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00334-00084445-00084648 education think about what this means
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00335-00084649-00084891 for the mentality of our populations as
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00336-00084892-00085122 well as for our income or revenue our
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00337-00085123-00085299 business model and the future were
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00338-00085300-00085650 preparing our students for the workforce
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00339-00085651-00085851 has also changed in some ways that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00340-00085852-00086013 you're familiar with but to recap
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00341-00086014-00086262 recapitulate we are moving the developed
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00343-00086491-00086679 service sector we thought we were
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00344-00086680-00086892 preparing for information economy and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00345-00086893-00087121 that didn't really come out to be true
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00346-00087122-00087360 yes there's a huge information sector it
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00347-00087361-00087537 makes a great deal of money has an
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00348-00087538-00087690 enormous amount of capital you think
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00349-00087691-00087928 about companies like Huawei in China you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00350-00087929-00088091 think about Google Amazon Microsoft
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00351-00088092-00088425 Apple and so forth but they employ
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00352-00088426-00088701 relatively few people most people are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00353-00088702-00088836 actually employed in the service sector
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00354-00088837-00089061 which represents of great transformation
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00355-00089062-00089280 we're also used to the idea of having
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00357-00089619-00089918 think about the Japanese salary man I
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00358-00089919-00090153 was showing my children the TV series
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00359-00090154-00090336 Mad Men and they find this very
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00360-00090337-00090516 entertaining it's like science fiction
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00361-00090517-00090760 to them the idea that you could have one
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00363-00090998-00091206 that's a twentieth-century thing like
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00364-00091207-00091404 privacy we don't do this anymore in the
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00370-00092581-00092661 point out
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00385-00095908-00096099 digital world this doesn't happen at all
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00388-00096607-00096861 next 30 years that we will see fewer
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00390-00097081-00097257 employment and unemployment and massive
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00391-00097258-00097490 level think what that means for
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00392-00097491-00098178 university graduation now think is well
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00393-00098179-00098412 about politics and political changes we
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00394-00098413-00098544 could spend the next four hours going
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00395-00098545-00098744 into this but we mentioned a few of this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00396-00098745-00099030 worldwide we're experiencing increased
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00397-00099031-00099255 tensions between cities and countryside
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00398-00099256-00099471 the rural-urban split is one that is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00399-00099472-00099726 very deep and persistent it's one that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00400-00099727-00099846 hasn't really been a subject of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00401-00099847-00100119 conversation too late we're seeing some
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00402-00100120-00100371 increased tensions of race in the United
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00403-00100372-00100689 States people ask me how how did Trump
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00404-00100690-00100968 possibly win and here a few of the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00405-00100969-00101289 reasons concerns about gender competing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00406-00101290-00101531 models of gender equity for example
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00407-00101532-00101915 economic anxiety nationalism mechanism
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00408-00101916-00102107 this is a different political
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00409-00102108-00102321 environment that we were experiencing in
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00410-00102322-00102615 the 1990s and again this shapes public
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00411-00102616-00102840 finance of higher education the shapes
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00412-00102841-00103266 our student mentalities our student
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00413-00103267-00103508 population is changing in some key and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00414-00103509-00103743 important ways in the United States
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00415-00103744-00103929 we're seeing for the first time a near
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00417-00104152-00104406 to 21 sector is shrinking we're seeing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00418-00104407-00104513 an increasing number of first-generation
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00419-00104514-00104793 college university of students which
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00420-00104794-00104984 again that population has a different
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00421-00104985-00105177 experience than those of people whose
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00422-00105178-00105507 parents with university thanks to nearly
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00423-00105508-00105766 20 years of continuous war then
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00424-00105767-00105981 and campuses are strongly veterans a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00425-00105982-00106260 great deal you couldn't tell this from
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00426-00106261-00106431 most conversation about higher education
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00427-00106432-00106686 but it's an important aspect of our
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00428-00106688-00106918 population and we have a rise of
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00430-00107129-00107308 they're increasing but that changes how
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00431-00107308-00107634 we support learning this slide shows a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00432-00107635-00107806 very very different population obviously
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00433-00107807-00108244 the implications for learning now on
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00434-00108245-00108388 let's give for a little bit some of some
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00435-00108389-00108751 more depressing slides one is that we
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00436-00108752-00109024 have decided that full-time tenured
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00437-00109025-00109327 faculty should be scarce in the United
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00438-00109328-00109483 States we've decided to replace them
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00439-00109483-00109777 with part-time non-tenured labor this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00440-00109778-00110034 process is called adjunct education or
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00441-00110035-00110257 the casualisation of economic labor this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00442-00110258-00110476 is occurred elsewhere in Canada these
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00443-00110477-00110677 are called sessions we're seeing signs
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00444-00110678-00110851 of this and parts of Britain parts of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00445-00110852-00111084 Australia the idea is that we are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00446-00111085-00111336 turning the academic labour market into
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00450-00111904-00112165 interestingly american studies are
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00451-00112166-00112342 inconclusive as to who is a better
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00453-00112565-00112978 professor meanwhile we are continuing a
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00456-00113429-00113680 funding and offloading funding to other
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00457-00113681-00113883 people in the United States we have a
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00460-00114305-00114561 have been declining some universities I
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00461-00114563-00114735 work with have only eight percent of
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00462-00114736-00114981 their funding coming from the state
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00463-00114982-00115306 meanwhile we offload this into debt and
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00464-00115307-00115567 the amount of debt owed by American
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00465-00115568-00115888 students is now roughly 1.4 trillion
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00466-00115889-00116143 dollars it is greater than any form of
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00469-00116747-00117159 back to politics and to the german thank
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00470-00117160-00117295 you for this wonderful image this
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00471-00117296-00117679 wonderful cover i mentioned nativism i
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00472-00117680-00117931 mentioned migration before well this is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00473-00117932-00118195 an interesting problem universities are
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00476-00118616-00118736 global
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00479-00119332-00119568 we will see political unrest at
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00480-00119569-00119834 universities opposing political forces
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00481-00119835-00120185 in favor of excluding migrants we've
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00482-00120186-00120359 already seen this happen we've seen a
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00483-00120360-00120501 group of American cities and American
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00484-00120502-00120663 campuses declare themselves to be
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00485-00120664-00120915 sanctuaries it is possible that over the
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00486-00120916-00121146 next year they will resist attempts to
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00487-00121147-00121350 deport students so my clients had
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00489-00121558-00121731 with the federal government information
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00490-00121732-00121961 about undocumented students it's
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00491-00121963-00122130 possible we will see widespread unrest
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00492-00122131-00122583 as the results but it's not just that I
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00495-00123036-00123306 longer you think about this a few
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00496-00123307-00123549 different scales globally we're facing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00497-00123550-00123720 some massive levels of political
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00498-00123721-00123996 dysfunction the Panama papers in many
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00499-00123997-00124245 ways surprised few people but documented
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00500-00124246-00124433 the suspicion of widespread elite
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00501-00124434-00124713 malfeasance and corruption we're seeing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00502-00124714-00124980 widespread critical and rest the elite
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00503-00124981-00125172 seemed on Cape incapable of managing
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00504-00125173-00125403 this as we saw with the grexit crisis
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00505-00125404-00125604 we're also seeing widespread resentment
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00506-00125605-00126042 of political elites what happens when
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00507-00126043-00126348 these forces actually grow and intersect
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00508-00126349-00126536 think about environmental stresses
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00509-00126538-00126777 globally we seem convinced that global
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00510-00126778-00126944 warming is something that we will
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00511-00126945-00127206 participate in and encourage we are
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00515-00127852-00128100 economic refuge at fallout with
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00520-00128934-00129216 political unrest meets a leadership that
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00521-00129217-00129402 is clearly not very capable of
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00523-00129628-00129934 cycles reiterate and harden and grow
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00524-00129935-00130553 perhaps we are in for an age of crisis I
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00525-00130554-00131031 would ask you to consider of all these
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+ztMLXuHkzL8-00527-00131293-00131571 politics policy economic reform
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00528-00131572-00131716 educational reform
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00529-00131717-00131989 think of which of these are most
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00530-00131990-00132300 powerful for shaking your institutions
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00531-00132301-00132805 and then to reconsider which of these is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00532-00132806-00133201 the hardest to predict which of these is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00533-00133202-00133771 the most wild card and to recall that as
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00534-00133772-00134005 a futurist everything I've shown you is
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00535-00134006-00134245 in the present I haven't shown you
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00536-00134246-00134461 anything from the science-fiction all
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00537-00134462-00134695 these future trends are grounded right
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00538-00134696-00135133 now in 2017 we want to think about
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00539-00135134-00135409 looking come next I charge you to do
+ztMLXuHkzL8-00540-00135410-00135937 that today thank
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00000-00000000-00000214 Kirstin Martin thank you for joining us
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00001-00000215-00000463 today before we get into the details of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00002-00000465-00000524 tack
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00003-00000525-00000713 just tell us a little bit about yourself
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00005-00001250-00001436 the micro panel groups you've been
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00006-00001437-00001801 supporting here my background is I've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00007-00001802-00002032 set up company in 2002 so I've been
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00011-00002700-00002858 before that I was a secondary school
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00013-00003213-00003365 passion of mine was always the safety
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00015-00003636-00003715 did actually as part of the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00016-00003717-00003872 cybersecurity two years
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00017-00003872-00004147 what gdpr is really about is about so
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00020-00004743-00004958 big passions is dealing with the smaller
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00024-00005573-00005909 four people in the organisation they
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00025-00005910-00006104 need that sort of advice on how to go
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00029-00006747-00007109 hide that it's not owe over expensive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00030-00007109-00007292 for people when actually they're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00031-00007293-00007435 probably already towards the eighty
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00032-00007436-00007670 percent compliance already it's just
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00033-00007670-00007903 getting the little dot in the ice
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00034-00007904-00008183 crossing the TV messes absolutely
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00035-00008184-00008333 and yet we're seeing a lot of very
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00036-00008334-00008648 anxious people so I want to dig down
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00037-00008649-00008842 into some of the questions that people
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00038-00008843-00009098 in the groups are most because I've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00039-00009099-00009308 never seen more people more anxious are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00040-00009309-00009574 more confused than they are about how to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00041-00009575-00010019 secure devices so I just want to say the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00042-00010020-00010235 general data protection regulations are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00043-00010236-00010438 still in draft we are working on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00044-00010439-00010670 governance there isn't anything that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00045-00010671-00010994 says you must secure your data exactly
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00046-00010995-00011333 this way as opposed to exactly that way
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00049-00011982-00012134 feel like anything that goes you must
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00050-00012135-00012299 use BitLocker you must never use
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00051-00012300-00012578 BitLocker it's not that detailed note
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00052-00012579-00012860 but miss apart the hype with it there it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00053-00012861-00013076 says there it's one of the bad terms it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00054-00013077-00013238 says around that you should use
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00056-00013431-00013686 the data so so here well you should be
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00058-00013944-00014205 that's not the case they had to use the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00059-00014206-00014418 word state of the art because GDP is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00060-00014419-00014744 replacing data protection act that's 20
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00063-00015190-00015347 all this data there wasn't the cloud
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00064-00015348-00015644 being used so they're they want a future
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00065-00015645-00015996 proof because if realistically if the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00066-00015997-00016278 smartphone spider internet it's around
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00067-00016279-00016469 10 years old so in the last 10 years
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00068-00016470-00016752 we've massively increased what we can do
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00069-00016753-00016965 what we can carry so by using terms like
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00070-00016966-00017175 state of the art it means what is the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00071-00017176-00017289 current standard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00072-00017290-00017985 what is the jargon which is quite likely
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00073-00017986-00018177 to confuse people trusting because you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00074-00018178-00018422 sit there with your tech head on really
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00075-00018423-00018738 and I sit here with my law head on but
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00076-00018739-00018966 most people who were joining us now are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00077-00018967-00019161 not sitting here with the tech head on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00078-00019162-00019389 of a low head on so here are some of the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00079-00019390-00019713 questions you've already had like if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00080-00019714-00020012 I've just put a password on my laptop
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00081-00020013-00020385 have I security know what what's this
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00082-00020386-00020568 thing about encryption and what's what's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00083-00020569-00020784 the difference between a password a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00084-00020785-00021141 decryption so a password on your laptop
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00085-00021142-00021272 so the first thing when you get your new
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00086-00021273-00021575 laptop is you give it a username and you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00087-00021576-00021881 give it your password the password it is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00088-00021882-00022086 to stop people getting into your account
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00089-00022087-00022437 to use it as you on the most part for
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00090-00022438-00022689 the way a lot of people set it up it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00091-00022690-00022859 takes about five minutes to get access
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00093-00023251-00023493 that controls whether someone can see
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00094-00023494-00023694 the data on the hard drive otherwise
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00095-00023695-00024000 it's wide open so by you know just know
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00096-00024001-00024128 just back through out the tree there
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00097-00024129-00024281 because you're saying something that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00098-00024282-00024474 really shocked me and I just want to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00099-00024475-00024834 repeat it for our group right you could
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00100-00024835-00025038 get into my laptop within five minutes
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00101-00025039-00025416 if it was only password-protected now is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00102-00025417-00025664 that just super clever techniques you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00103-00025666-00025986 know what they're doing it's a piece of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00104-00025987-00026240 standard software that your hard drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00105-00026241-00026564 holds the data on it the witch
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00106-00026566-00026808 windows you're using to learn is the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00107-00026808-00027144 administrator of the hardware insider so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00108-00027145-00027452 if I'm booting up the computer with the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00109-00027454-00027738 windows on the hard drive it is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00110-00027739-00027972 reasonably well protected but if I take
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00111-00027973-00028116 that hard drive and put it into a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00112-00028117-00028437 different computer my other computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00113-00028438-00028719 which I am administrator of has control
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00114-00028720-00028926 over that hard drive so it can view all
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00115-00028927-00029181 the data on there by boot up off a boot
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00116-00029182-00029427 CD so a CD that will just load up a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00117-00029427-00029652 version of Windows or Linux or something
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00118-00029652-00029880 like that again it will see the hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00119-00029881-00030020 drive is just a collection of ones and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00120-00030022-00030345 zeros which it can read so is that the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00121-00030345-00030561 things like all the Apple Mac users and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00122-00030562-00030813 hopefully the effort environment yes so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00123-00030814-00031080 with Apple you can Apple was actually
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00124-00031081-00031341 easier to get into on that basis because
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00125-00031342-00031730 you can boot off a so if I was to create
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00126-00031731-00031950 take my hard drive out I could plug it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00127-00031951-00032364 in as a USB if I was to I could take
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00128-00032364-00032775 have a boot of my own Mac version Mac
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00129-00032776-00032976 operating system plug that into the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00130-00032977-00033174 computer and boot from the external hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00131-00033175-00033474 drive that's now the administrator over
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00132-00033475-00033630 everything else so I can take control
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00133-00033631-00033882 and look in the files because all the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00134-00033883-00034752 files are saved normally so because this
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00135-00034753-00034962 is why we hear the word encryption don't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00136-00034963-00035240 know so to most people encryption is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00137-00035241-00035460 like spying of us and ciphered mug
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00138-00035461-00035715 movies from the 1940s all the rest of it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00139-00035716-00036045 what actually is encryption so
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00142-00036565-00036860 hello world that store does hello world
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00146-00037641-00037890 password will act like a without like a
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00148-00038284-00038520 might become something else and so on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00149-00038521-00038793 when I give that password in because we
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00150-00038794-00039042 know how its encrypted we can decrypt it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00151-00039043-00039483 back to hello world so V played is the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00152-00039484-00039660 child when you when you heard the
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00155-00039894-00040091 and you could read it because they knew
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00156-00040092-00040310 that but this is an electronic version
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00157-00040311-00040535 this is it yeah and it's a bit more
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00166-00042771-00042995 adequately and then you talked about the
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00168-00043299-00043358 get this straight
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00169-00043359-00043763 if I put a password on my PC I'm not
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00170-00043764-00044105 necessarily encrypting my data the Pat
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00171-00044106-00044324 that's the password to use the computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00172-00044325-00044681 as you and that's different so when
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00174-00044841-00044972 encryption do you mean this is another
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00175-00044973-00045209 layout because you want to see this it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00176-00045210-00045368 can do you heading because to us the
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00178-00045540-00045782 one no you haven't the best way to
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00182-00046494-00046811 you set up that key is what can unlock
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00183-00046812-00047021 the encrypted data and turn it back into
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00184-00047022-00047267 data you can read or the computer can
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00185-00047268-00047603 read so the the password you get when
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00186-00047604-00047726 you go into Windows and you've got your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00187-00047727-00047873 username and you type in a password
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00188-00047874-00048110 which takes you to your desktop that is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00189-00048111-00048410 purely an access point for the computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00190-00048411-00048656 there is nothing encrypted with that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00191-00048657-00048812 there is nothing protected with that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00192-00048813-00049040 unless you've turned on the encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00193-00049041-00049547 so for instance with phones you don't I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00194-00049548-00049727 start go to face for a moment because
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00195-00049728-00049892 we're going to stay with that tops for a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00196-00049893-00050021 second because some of us are not that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00197-00050022-00050249 smart about take you just use the phrase
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00198-00050250-00050642 turn on encryption so no does that mean
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00199-00050643-00050858 that when I bye and when I look at my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00200-00050859-00051086 laptop unless I've turned on my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00201-00051087-00051355 encryption it's not on because you'd
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00202-00051357-00051745 think wouldn't you in 2018 when I get a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00203-00051746-00052039 device automatically it's encrypted why
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00204-00052040-00052487 on earth would I just clarify the one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00205-00052488-00052634 thing when I talk about computers I'm
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00206-00052635-00052867 talking about apples and Windows they
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00207-00052869-00053041 are identical in basis of being a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00208-00053042-00053279 computer when you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00209-00053279-00053551 so for the standard person and typically
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00211-00053693-00053909 businesses they go to potentially a high
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00212-00053910-00054122 street store buy a computer from there
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00213-00054123-00054376 and it comes with Windows Home Windows
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00214-00054377-00054619 home doesn't include the ability to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00215-00054620-00054910 encrypt this entrust as a professional
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00216-00054911-00055207 piece of software for a home user using
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00217-00055208-00055525 it to watch Netflix to play games to do
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00218-00055526-00055693 little bits with enter personal photos
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00219-00055694-00055942 they don't need to encrypt because it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00220-00055943-00056212 for that own personal use the Windows
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00221-00056213-00056425 Professional includes those business
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00222-00056426-00056632 features that businesses really should
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00223-00056633-00056893 have and it's included BitLocker for
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00224-00056894-00057055 years
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00225-00057056-00057253 BitLocker is one of the encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00226-00057254-00057379 possibilities you can get other
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00227-00057380-00057592 encryption software but the BitLocker
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00228-00057593-00057760 one is built into Windows so if you have
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00229-00057761-00057907 Windows Professional you've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00230-00057908-00058117 automatically got it you can upgrade
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00231-00058118-00058435 your home to Windows Professional so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00232-00058436-00058632 there is the upgrade ability with that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00233-00058633-00059003 so you don't have to go and buy a new PC
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00234-00059004-00059238 or anything like that it is purely a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00235-00059239-00059500 sort of a toned upgrade that's
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00294-00073992-00074249 forget your key you cannot get any of
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00298-00075018-00075251 set with that you can't get your data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00299-00075252-00075632 either so it is vital that that is a
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00319-00080276-00080626 location yes my tech guys got a copy of
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00321-00080876-00081028 that one day I'm gonna lose it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00322-00081029-00081217 question I think a lot of people up with
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00334-00084047-00084313 so you don't have the encryption tool in
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00335-00084314-00084577 there but there is a very good chance
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00420-00105166-00105585 windows yeah turn pro she turned on bit
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00425-00106472-00106686 words and also had her login would they
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00426-00106688-00106741 be over
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00449-00112016-00112075 login
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00453-00112748-00113041 your encryption password but if I was to
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00457-00113789-00114028 that encryption password I wouldn't be
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00459-00114158-00114427 the little techniques you can do to wipe
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00463-00115088-00115498 secured your device at that point the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00464-00115499-00115753 big thing for the gdpr is you don't need
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00465-00115754-00115966 to report it as a data breach if you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00466-00115967-00116101 know you've turned on the BitLocker
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00467-00116102-00116308 because that means if you lose your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00468-00116308-00116521 device isn't it and and that's quite an
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00469-00116522-00116713 interesting point Tristan because when
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00470-00116714-00116920 we survey in our glutes what's the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00471-00116921-00117111 biggest reason for data loss it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00472-00117113-00117364 actually losing your laptop or your your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00473-00117365-00117547 smartphone which will come on to a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00474-00117548-00117805 minute is a very big reason for losing
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00475-00117806-00118011 data so simply by encrypting your
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00477-00118298-00118564 risk of noted us the question I want to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00478-00118565-00118710 raise with you Tristan
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00479-00118711-00118939 she says if I were to give my encryption
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00481-00119168-00119380 this secure now I think we've slightly
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00482-00119381-00119618 got the wrong end of the stick here
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00486-00120434-00120628 crush it is it's very for later blades
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00487-00120629-00120848 when you encrypt your device the code
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00489-00121076-00121343 for that device encryption when you send
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00496-00122540-00122768 encrypted the file so the big difference
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-00499-00123236-00123497 whole device is encrypted so the entire
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00500-00123498-00123658 hard drive on your laptop is encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00501-00123659-00124012 and that's what BitLocker does you then
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00502-00124013-00124346 got encryption for files which is where
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00503-00124347-00124547 you encrypt a file on a of one file
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00504-00124548-00124810 basis or a folder basis and you send
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00505-00124811-00125011 that to someone else what you would be
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00506-00125012-00125191 doing there is you're sharing them the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00507-00125192-00125546 key to that particular file you Center
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00508-00125547-00125863 so and that way they can unlock it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00509-00125864-00126112 because it's in separate emails it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00510-00126113-00126356 makes it that bit more secure there are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00511-00126357-00126559 different tools you can use it work in
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00512-00126560-00126848 different ways obviously before we go
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00513-00126849-00127087 onto to is we gave some feedback from
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00514-00127088-00127244 the group Tristan saying in the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00515-00127245-00127429 beginning didn't you say it was easy to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00516-00127430-00127706 enter through a computer person so we're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00517-00127707-00127909 still getting people confused about a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00518-00127910-00128209 password on the computer and encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00519-00128210-00128522 keys can you just clarify if I've got my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00520-00128523-00128809 laptop here and you get on it right now
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00521-00128810-00129103 and you don't have the password for my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00522-00129104-00129175 computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00523-00129176-00129419 you can't view my data is that right if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00524-00129420-00129751 it's encrypted if it's encrypted I can't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00525-00129752-00129958 get in to view your data I can't get in
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00526-00129959-00130099 to view any of the data on that hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00527-00130100-00130150 drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00528-00130151-00130426 but if I give you my password or a valid
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00529-00130427-00130769 password though my computer you can view
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00530-00130770-00130987 that can you then view the encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00531-00130988-00131275 data because I've been be logging in as
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00532-00131276-00131641 one of your users so yes so if I have a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00533-00131642-00131878 valid password for your computer if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00534-00131879-00132059 you've got a computer but you've not
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00535-00132060-00132407 turned on encryption the password then
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00536-00132408-00132664 is pointless because the data is on the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00537-00132665-00132949 hard drive and it's viewable by anything
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00538-00132950-00133236 when you encrypt the hard drive and you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00539-00133237-00133503 have a password for the encryption that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00540-00133504-00133774 stops anybody viewing any of the data on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00541-00133775-00133977 the hard drive without the encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00542-00133978-00134241 password if you better be clear because
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00543-00134242-00134526 this word passwords is just database had
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00544-00134527-00134876 it nothing no login to my laptop right I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00545-00134877-00135220 only use one password yeah I know that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00546-00135221-00135436 my data is encrypted but I don't have
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00547-00135437-00135615 the login passwords and encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00548-00135616-00136128 password I just looking yeah so Windows
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00549-00136129-00136348 will tie those together so when you log
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00550-00136349-00136743 in it's fine but because you encrypt it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00551-00136744-00137008 your your computer when you're running
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00552-00137009-00137379 your windows is therefore safe when it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00553-00137380-00137736 encrypted I cannot take that hard drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00554-00137737-00137888 out and view it on another computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00555-00137889-00138249 without knowing your password if it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00556-00138250-00138486 not encrypted again
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00557-00138487-00138709 I can't access your area without your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00558-00138710-00138958 password but with it not being encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00559-00138959-00139176 I can take that hard drive and I can
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00560-00139177-00139404 view the data from another computer with
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00561-00139405-00139593 no problem
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00562-00139594-00139911 that's so in a way my password is don't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00563-00139912-00140049 she thinks it's letting me into the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00564-00140050-00140284 device and your five encrypted my data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00565-00140285-00140458 is letting me see the data but I've just
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00566-00140459-00140632 got the one password in terms of what I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00567-00140633-00140802 do every day yeah
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00568-00140803-00141070 so with yourself that's the thing if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00569-00141071-00141322 you've not encrypted the password that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00570-00141323-00141556 you've got to log into your device is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00571-00141557-00141907 pretty pointless to most people it can
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00572-00141908-00142149 be got round so to say this the same is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00573-00142150-00142314 true or max isn't it because dude is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00574-00142315-00142491 saying only one you told us you can
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00575-00142492-00142686 access my map map drop in five minutes
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00576-00142687-00142849 does that mean you'd have my laptop
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00577-00142850-00143115 password and therefore bypassed my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00578-00143116-00143374 father and we're talking about being
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00579-00143375-00143572 able to get on your hard drive if you've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00580-00143573-00143964 no idea today about making your computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00581-00143965-00144165 I have to have your computer in my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00582-00144166-00144249 physical hands
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00583-00144250-00144399 this isn't about hacking through the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00584-00144400-00144624 internet this isn't about remote access
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00585-00144625-00144837 or anything like that this is about me
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00586-00144838-00144999 you've left your laptop on the backseat
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00587-00145000-00145376 of your car I grabbed it and walked off
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00588-00145377-00145674 now on the train that seems to be the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00589-00145675-00145827 next biggest thing people do left the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00590-00145828-00146049 laptop on the train yeah this is so me
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00591-00146050-00146245 the pure thing is is about the physical
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00592-00146246-00146308 access
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00593-00146309-00146511 if I've got your physical hard drive and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00594-00146512-00146869 it's not encrypted I can read it I can't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00595-00146870-00147061 see what your password is I can reset it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00596-00147062-00147334 for the device I can't see it but can
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00597-00147335-00147694 view all the data if it's encrypted if I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00598-00147695-00147961 don't know your password I can't use any
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00599-00147962-00148356 of the data so that's the message is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00600-00148357-00148611 don't share your computer not your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00601-00148612-00148863 passwords with other people is there you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00602-00148864-00149001 should never need to ever share a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00603-00149002-00149199 password with other people there should
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00604-00149200-00149511 always be an administration access so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00605-00149512-00149695 we've won so computers I look after I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00606-00149696-00149959 have a tail Marten limited account on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00607-00149960-00150121 each of them that I can go in as
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00608-00150122-00150382 administrator if I need to do it from
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00609-00150383-00150535 their view and they're not there to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00610-00150536-00150709 login for me I can reset the password
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00611-00150710-00150936 but I don't know what their password is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00612-00150937-00151072 because they might use on multiple
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00613-00151073-00151464 devices things like that now we got some
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00614-00151465-00151641 great pictures coming in here from the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00615-00151642-00151800 chat motorists and Shelley saying
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00616-00151801-00152008 imagine you have your computer in a safe
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00617-00152009-00152245 you can't get into it without the coach
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00618-00152246-00152463 of the safe if you can open the safe
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00619-00152464-00152734 with then you can gauge your computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00620-00152735-00153223 and the safe is the encryption yes many
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00621-00153224-00153460 computers just accessible yeah it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00622-00153461-00153718 that's a brilliant analogy yeah she's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00623-00153719-00153895 very good at pictures for us Jenny
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00624-00153896-00154110 that's why I thought I'd bring that one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00625-00154111-00154191 up for you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00626-00154192-00154554 so basically encryption is securing your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00627-00154555-00154768 mobile devices and once you've done
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00628-00154769-00155134 there and I'm talking about that tops
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00629-00155135-00155286 now we're going to get onto phones in a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00630-00155287-00155422 minute because that's even worse isn't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00631-00155423-00155712 it your point of view you just log on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00632-00155713-00155952 use your ordinary passwords and that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00633-00155953-00156135 gets at the end of it windows does it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00634-00156136-00156354 all behind the scenes for you the big
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00635-00156355-00156484 question is you want to encrypt it but I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00636-00156485-00156607 would like to change that from just
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00637-00156608-00156849 being mobile devices your computer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00638-00156850-00157096 should be because you've got a desktop
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00639-00157097-00157348 can still be robbed you can still have
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00640-00157349-00157527 your house broke you take a desktop
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00641-00157528-00157798 taken and so nice what about backups
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00642-00157799-00158163 people eat goo using backup drives all
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00643-00158164-00158373 sorts of things we have things don't be
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00644-00158374-00158593 that we put data on electronic devices
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00645-00158594-00158872 what about those the big risk is if you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00646-00158873-00159150 are and it is party there is free
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00647-00159151-00159366 software out there for you to do backups
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00648-00159367-00159600 with there is free commercial software
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00649-00159601-00159665 so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00650-00159666-00159882 one-eye I do recommend is called Macri
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00651-00159883-00160122 and reflect that's a great way to do a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00652-00160123-00160340 back up to it again and I'll spell it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00653-00160341-00160659 and put it in the room oh it's Macri up
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00654-00160660-00161049 so ma CR I um reflect Bobby
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00655-00161050-00161571 FL ECT very good piece of software it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00656-00161572-00161832 has a three commercial license so for a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00657-00161833-00162101 one-off computer for typical people just
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00658-00162102-00162419 like the on computer it's a great tool
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00659-00162420-00162711 what that will do is it will create a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00660-00162712-00162977 image of your hard drive to your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00661-00162978-00163163 external hard drive but you can password
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00662-00163164-00163449 protect that image so what you're doing
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00663-00163450-00163698 there is it's essentially it is like
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00664-00163699-00163887 encryption because you can't just view
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00665-00163888-00164078 the data normally unless you've got the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00666-00164079-00164325 password so it's you are getting the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00667-00164326-00164559 protection if you are doing where you're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00668-00164560-00164757 just copying your Documents folder your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00669-00164758-00164951 desktop folder and dragging and dropping
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00670-00164952-00165234 them onto a hard drive as a copy then
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00671-00165235-00165456 you will run into problems with trying
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00672-00165457-00165590 to restore if something really goes
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00673-00165591-00165831 wrong because you'll have known what's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00674-00165832-00166058 called virtual control but you're also
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00675-00166059-00166320 then unless that you encrypt that hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00676-00166321-00166448 drive and you can do that with BitLocker
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00677-00166449-00166782 that data is fully viewable so I'd
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00678-00166783-00166944 always recommend using some kind of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00679-00166945-00167189 backup tool the online backup tools
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00680-00167190-00167540 again are quite good because you need a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00681-00167541-00167735 username and a password to view the data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00682-00167736-00167994 and of course that's put in a different
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00683-00167995-00168324 location as well so there's a number of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00684-00168325-00168541 things that it's about I don't prescribe
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00685-00168542-00168887 one-size-fits-all for anybody even it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00686-00168888-00169050 when I've dealt with say several VA s I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00687-00169051-00169262 don't say that every single one of them
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00688-00169263-00169427 should work the same it's about how they
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00689-00169428-00169754 want to work so that's part of what you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00690-00169755-00169964 should have is a discussion with someone
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00691-00169965-00170262 you're dealing with uit about how you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00692-00170263-00170465 want to work and what's going to keep
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00693-00170466-00170706 you securing your methods so but your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00694-00170707-00170931 backup realistically I would always use
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00695-00170932-00171164 a tool to do the backup for you even the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00696-00171165-00171387 free ones are fine but you need to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00697-00171388-00171638 password protect backup to make sure
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00698-00171639-00171863 that people can't get access to it if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00699-00171864-00172178 they steal your external hard drive now
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00700-00172179-00172368 we've got a subgroup of people and I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00701-00172369-00172502 think this is particularly true of the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00702-00172503-00172782 AC work on Macs but they have a kind of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00703-00172783-00173010 zone that they use for Windows 10
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00704-00173011-00173145 because they work with people like me
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00705-00173146-00173496 ever in Windows a soldier is saying
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00706-00173497-00173700 she's got a Mac but a hard drive spit
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00707-00173701-00173937 with bootcamp for Windows 10 is it right
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00708-00173938-00174099 it's saying she needs to encrypt those
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00709-00174100-00174360 two separate entities there's two sites
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00710-00174361-00174588 there's two parts to this number one if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00711-00174589-00174843 it has what's called two partitions and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00712-00174844-00175026 if you you've done it that particular
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00713-00175027-00175253 way you have heard that term partitions
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00714-00175254-00175545 then yes because both of them you've got
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00715-00175546-00175710 one hard drive and you've got both
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00716-00175711-00176022 completely separate standalone areas one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00717-00176023-00176187 for the Mac operating system one for the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00718-00176188-00176406 windows so you would need to encrypt on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00719-00176407-00176661 both sides because the file volt impact
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00720-00176662-00176826 will just include the encrypt the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00721-00176827-00177063 partition so a petition is if you take
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00722-00177064-00177414 one hard drive you split it into one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00723-00177415-00177633 sections accessible by one software the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00724-00177634-00177777 other section is accessible by the other
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00725-00177778-00178026 software right so each one has to be
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00726-00178027-00178251 done in the right software yes probably
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00727-00178252-00178434 it didn't question because techs not
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00728-00178435-00178635 really my strong point but if I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00729-00178636-00178878 encrypted the data on my hard drive is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00730-00178879-00179103 the data on my backup automatically
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00731-00179104-00179259 encrypted when I backup the encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00732-00179260-00179520 dates in order to encrypt it again yeah
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00733-00179521-00179751 the the data is unencrypted on the hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00734-00179752-00180000 drive and if you're done it on the hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00735-00180001-00180189 drive it's only encrypted down until
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00736-00180190-00180375 it's unencrypted which is why you can
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00737-00180376-00180590 still use cloud synchronization tools
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00738-00180591-00180837 like onedrive because the data isn't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00739-00180838-00181113 uploaded encrypted because you're inside
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00740-00181114-00181320 Windows once you're inside windows and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00741-00181321-00181473 we think when encrypted for you to use
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00742-00181474-00181650 but you've got to get to that stage
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00743-00181651-00182157 first then just backup my encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00744-00182158-00182544 drives I know you're often have an
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00745-00182545-00182700 option which will say either to password
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00746-00182701-00183096 protect it or encrypt it and which will
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00747-00183097-00183345 also have a password so that when you do
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00748-00183346-00183585 your backup you you generally need to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00749-00183586-00183777 make sure one of those is selected so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00750-00183778-00184004 the password protect there's no there's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00751-00184005-00184269 no law and a gdpr that says you have to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00752-00184270-00184503 encrypt your device it says that you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00753-00184504-00184836 have to report a data breach if the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00754-00184837-00185051 device is stolen which is not encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00755-00185052-00185441 so I would recommend if you use a backup
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00756-00185442-00185678 tool you look at that backup tool for
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00757-00185679-00185954 using the word say encrypt my backup and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00758-00185955-00186168 it will do that for you with as part of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00759-00186169-00186384 the password if it looking
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00760-00186385-00186587 like does that does it the one that you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00761-00186588-00186936 know even in the 3-1 the painful ones
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00762-00186937-00187134 not that much more but the three one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00763-00187135-00187494 you'll see all the tools on there it's a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00764-00187495-00187683 great it's a good one to start with but
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00765-00187684-00187821 again you've also got the point that if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00766-00187822-00187979 you are having that hard drive and I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00767-00187980-00188109 think someone's also mentioned that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00768-00188110-00188319 they've got the backup USB keys listen a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00769-00188320-00188516 lot safe well if you're doing it to a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00770-00188517-00188688 backup hard drive and you're locking
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00771-00188689-00188913 that away in the say there's very little
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00772-00188914-00189102 chance of ever being stolen so a normal
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00773-00189103-00189411 password on the backup will keep that a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00774-00189412-00189777 bit safer so even if you don't go to the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00775-00189778-00190098 encrypting of your backup so yeah those
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00776-00190099-00190316 that have to be you have to work out
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00777-00190317-00190589 what is the likelihood of the risk I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00778-00190590-00190794 think I heard it best with the front
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00779-00190795-00191100 door there is no lock that is not um
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00780-00191101-00191487 that's not able to be sorry there's no
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00781-00191488-00191733 lot that can't be broken into it's just
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00782-00191734-00191868 about how long it takes to get broken
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00783-00191869-00192147 into it and it's the same sort of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00784-00192148-00192450 passwords and things like that so what
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00785-00192451-00192594 they're trying to do is they want you to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00786-00192595-00192798 take reasonable and that's the key word
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00787-00192799-00193194 and reasonable protection of people's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00788-00193195-00193379 data if you've just left it wide open
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00789-00193380-00193614 and you you don't have any sort of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00790-00193615-00193773 encrypt any sort of protection
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00791-00193774-00194049 whatsoever you're not taking any kind of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00792-00194050-00194303 care or consideration about the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00793-00194304-00194538 customers the clients data that you're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00794-00194539-00194736 holding and it's about raising that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00795-00194737-00194952 awareness to make sure people sort of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00796-00194953-00195171 giving that due diligence to protect
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00797-00195172-00195402 what they're using will want that's what
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00798-00195403-00195554 they are how they're storing that data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00799-00195555-00195798 and that's the big focus behind it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00800-00195799-00195960 Natalie you're saying you're beginning
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00801-00195961-00196161 to take the words encryption as much as
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00802-00196162-00196521 you loathe the lessons DDP oh no I'm
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00803-00196522-00196719 worried about you do it with encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00804-00196720-00196928 well we've got Tristan Lowell line let's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00805-00196929-00197116 see if we can sort this out
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00806-00197117-00197499 come on one suggestion with encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00807-00197500-00198014 wise don't necessarily hate the word its
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00808-00198015-00198273 treat it as something Spartan it yet if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00809-00198274-00198636 your bests III stood up during a talk
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00810-00198637-00198852 for gdpr for a networking group and I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00811-00198853-00199032 and I stood there in front of them as
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00812-00199033-00199214 those tiles look I said okay I've got
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00813-00199215-00199482 two IT people in 20 you one of them does
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00814-00199483-00199725 IT for home and small businesses and one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00815-00199726-00200003 does IT for small businesses which one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00816-00200004-00200169 do you want to use and every single one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00817-00200170-00200349 of them said I want to use the IT who
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00818-00200350-00200502 just small businesses because they had
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00819-00200503-00200745 an impression that if the IT person did
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00820-00200746-00200943 home and small businesses they're going
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00821-00200944-00201120 to be less secure they're going to bring
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00822-00201121-00201474 home technology into a business so look
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00823-00201475-00201645 at it this way if you are going to buy
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00824-00201646-00201882 windows are you going to and you're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00825-00201883-00202032 doing it as a business are you going to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00826-00202033-00202281 buy Windows home or professional are you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00827-00202282-00202565 a home user or a professional so if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00828-00202566-00202679 you're a professional and it doesn't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00829-00202680-00202833 cost that much more if you buy and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00830-00202834-00203013 getting the same time doesn't cost more
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00831-00203014-00203240 to upgrade so you buy a professional
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00832-00203241-00203429 because you are a professional you are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00833-00203430-00203931 business encryption just is a few clicks
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00834-00203932-00204393 turn it on it's done and it's bad you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00835-00204394-00204534 never need to think about it again
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00836-00204535-00204747 because once it's done behind the scene
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00837-00204748-00205008 and I know we talked about Mobile's in
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00838-00205009-00205281 YouTube but every single iPhone is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00839-00205282-00205494 encrypted by default nobody thinks about
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00840-00205494-00205746 it because it happens by default as soon
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00841-00205746-00206031 as you put a pin code in don't hate the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00842-00206032-00206229 world just turn it on and forget about
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00843-00206230-00206853 it because you've done it thank you that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00844-00206854-00207006 for the questions come here in the group
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00845-00207007-00207191 I just want to feed these spiky Kevin
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00846-00207192-00207365 Eris's can you bomb a poster need to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00847-00207366-00207444 encrypt aha
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00848-00207444-00207633 if he stole the data in something like
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00849-00207634-00208194 Dropbox Pro which is encrypted say with
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00850-00208194-00208500 me on what so what that's be if the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00851-00208501-00208680 Dropbox were so Dropbox regardless of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00852-00208681-00208919 whatever version the date on your hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00853-00208921-00209291 drive is strawberries data if your hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00854-00209292-00209475 drive is encrypted then that version of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00855-00209476-00209598 the date on your hard drive is also
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00856-00209598-00209883 encrypted the data stores and Dropbox is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00857-00209884-00210132 service that's generally safe you don't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00858-00210133-00210342 need to worry on that or about Microsoft
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00859-00210342-00210560 on drop because they have all their
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00860-00210561-00210917 systems encrypted so that data there's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00861-00210919-00211092 when they send Dropbox has been hacked
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00862-00211092-00211317 then nobody got access to the data they
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00863-00211317-00211464 got access to your user name which is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00864-00211465-00211650 your email address and an encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00865-00211651-00211932 version of your password and they do a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00866-00211933-00212184 very and because I got so can I can I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00867-00212185-00212325 get back to Kevin's question because
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00868-00212326-00212454 they're not totally understanding the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00869-00212455-00212625 answer I have to forgive me I do Lord
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00870-00212626-00212964 not tech Y so if you drag a file right
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00871-00212965-00213012 now
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00872-00213013-00213323 to Dropbox probe yeah if my hard drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00873-00213325-00213702 is not encrypted it's not encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00874-00213703-00213930 because I dragged it into Dropbox Pro it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00875-00213931-00214046 doesn't make any difference
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00876-00214048-00214446 no I lied unless there's an additional
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00877-00214446-00214701 tool in Dropbox Pro that says it locally
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00878-00214702-00214776 in crypts
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00879-00214777-00214932 but then you'd have to be entering a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00880-00214933-00215096 password every time you log into your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00881-00215098-00215405 computer to decrypt it typically drop
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00882-00215406-00215648 let's not go on to it unless than less
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00883-00215650-00215805 than this mic because you're you're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00884-00215806-00216044 wasting a head of my brain Tristen right
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00885-00216046-00216417 if I've got an unencrypted file on my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00886-00216417-00216671 drive right now yeah dragutin's books
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00887-00216673-00217050 right now if you if I hadn't equipped my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00888-00217051-00217233 hard drive and you take my hard drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00889-00217234-00217542 out you can see that data so just
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00890-00217542-00217752 dragging it into Dropbox Pro isn't the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00891-00217753-00217776 answer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00892-00217777-00218092 I've still got to encrypt my drive yes
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00893-00218094-00218391 yeah what you're what you get when you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00894-00218392-00218550 use Dropbox and I talked about the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00895-00218551-00218760 encryption there is the data sent
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00896-00218761-00218964 between your computer and their server
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00897-00218965-00219285 is encrypted because when you send data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00898-00219286-00219483 from your computer it goes out of your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00899-00219484-00219657 house it goes to internet provider it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00900-00219658-00219867 goes through 10 pcs there it goes
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00901-00219867-00220017 through several other computers
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00902-00220017-00220173 throughout the internet to end up with
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00903-00220173-00220373 the destination so you encrypt that so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00904-00220375-00221058 no deep computing between computer and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00905-00221059-00221267 people are asking this about one drivers
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00906-00221269-00221427 where we've got a very clever question
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00907-00221428-00221679 from Tosca thank you very much if my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00908-00221680-00221850 clients data is on onedrive for business
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00909-00221851-00222054 and is encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00910-00222055-00222315 do I need to encrypt the PC laptop to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00911-00222316-00222483 trust God not quite sure whether you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00912-00222484-00222702 mean yours because you're viewing it or
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00913-00222703-00222951 whether you mean there's but but could
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00914-00222952-00223188 you take it either way Tristan it's yeah
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00915-00223189-00223521 I so in other words the data stored at
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00916-00223521-00223776 Microsoft is encrypted let's say I've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00917-00223777-00223994 got the client showing date so the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00918-00223996-00224169 clients got their computer encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00919-00224169-00224379 they share with you the drop of a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00920-00224380-00224571 onedrive tool downloads the file to your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00921-00224571-00224784 computer and that mounted on your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00922-00224785-00224940 computer now if your computer isn't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00923-00224941-00225207 encrypted the data is just out on the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00924-00225208-00225408 drive because the onedrive will have
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00925-00225409-00225588 decrypted it as it put onto your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00926-00225589-00225821 computer because that's how you can view
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00927-00225823-00226071 it if it was encrypted you would need to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00928-00226071-00226242 be entering passwords every single time
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00929-00226242-00226419 you enter view that date
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00930-00226419-00226794 so it exists so you if you or if you are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00931-00226794-00227057 sharing data with someone else you need
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00932-00227058-00227280 to make sure that if they they're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00933-00227281-00227507 synchronizing their computers are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00934-00227508-00227715 encrypted so they've got a copy of that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00935-00227716-00227948 data on their computers if their
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00936-00227950-00228544 computer should be sitting encrypted so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00937-00228546-00228842 thanks to me for Dropbox PO I believe it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00938-00228844-00229058 does encrypt when it's transferred now I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00939-00229059-00229194 think this might be the difference
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00940-00229194-00229500 tuning approaching your device and your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00941-00229501-00229694 coaching wants to be transmitted could
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00942-00229696-00229907 you clarify that for me in words of one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00943-00229908-00230154 syllable make my little brain catch up
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00944-00230155-00230510 with you know I put a file in Dropbox on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00945-00230511-00230825 my computer that is not encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00946-00230826-00231141 because I'm turned on encryption Dropbox
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00947-00231142-00231410 encrypts that file as it sends it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00948-00231411-00231762 through the internet so if anybody at bt
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00949-00231763-00232042 is trying to look at my data they cough
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00950-00232044-00232341 it will go throughout the world to get
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00951-00232342-00232557 to dropbox his computer and that Dropbox
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00952-00232558-00232863 is computer it stays encrypted so the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00953-00232864-00233135 file on my computer is not encrypted but
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00954-00233136-00233342 as soon as it started to be transferred
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00955-00233344-00233582 the copy that's being transferred is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00956-00233583-00234252 encrypted and the majority of them do
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00957-00234253-00234635 what you can same but the copy on your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00958-00234636-00234882 computer is not encrypted so I have your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00959-00234883-00235212 physical hard drive I can view it so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00960-00235213-00235476 that's where we use BitLocker because it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00961-00235477-00235934 encrypts the physical hard vult
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00962-00235935-00236298 BitLocker the windows so that's the bit
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00963-00236298-00236766 you've got there yeah just the one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00964-00236767-00236928 question that just to go back where
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00965-00236929-00237083 people saying about running Windows and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00966-00237084-00237312 Mac at the same time if you're running
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00967-00237313-00237627 Windows within the map so it's windows
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00968-00237628-00237846 azure windows it's a window inside your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00969-00237846-00238155 Mac operating system so you load up Mac
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00970-00238156-00238334 and then you run windows inside it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00971-00238335-00238619 everything inside that is encrypted if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00972-00238621-00238929 you turn off our vault so that's the two
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00973-00238930-00239202 parts you need to write what justin is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00974-00239203-00239364 saying is the local version of your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00975-00239365-00239601 computer's not encrypted unless you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00976-00239602-00239733 actually encrypt it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00977-00239734-00239889 whereas Dropbox it and cloud is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00978-00239890-00240102 encrypted which is what happens when you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00979-00240103-00240315 put your stuff in an encrypted that's me
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00980-00240316-00240548 you can't generally hack your data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00981-00240548-00240746 unless they know your username and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00982-00240748-00241062 password for what stored at Dropbox is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00983-00241063-00241284 computer at Microsoft's computer at
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00984-00241285-00241560 Google's computer they need your email
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00985-00241561-00241746 address and your password to get access
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00986-00241746-00241944 to that was gonna be external hard
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00987-00241944-00242163 drives we dealt with that earlier you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00988-00242164-00242376 need to turn on encryption for backups
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00989-00242377-00242556 don't you just because you've encrypted
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00990-00242557-00242798 the device you're on the encryption is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00991-00242800-00243135 device by device but yes I mentioned
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00992-00243136-00243300 that they use their time machine which
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00993-00243301-00243510 is a brilliant inbuilt backup tool for
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00994-00243511-00243821 max that includes encryption in there so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00995-00243823-00244065 yeah do you need to turn it oh no gee
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00996-00244066-00244407 just back up in time machine one you'd
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00997-00244408-00244598 need to turn on your file vault which
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00998-00244600-00244821 would encrypt but then as part of when
+zwN2OYk3uM4-00999-00244821-00245028 you're turning on your time machine part
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01000-00245029-00245157 of the setup as it will guide you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01001-00245158-00245313 through you'll need to take to say
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01002-00245314-00245685 encrypt my backups typically most of all
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01003-00245686-00245856 that it's you look out for the words
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01004-00245857-00246057 they encrypt it the reason it will
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01005-00246058-00246219 always give you the option to encrypt is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01006-00246219-00246450 because if you forget whatever you've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01007-00246451-00246675 set is your your decryption key that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01008-00246676-00246927 password for the encryption if you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01009-00246928-00247071 forget that and you don't have the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01010-00247071-00247137 recovery
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01011-00247138-00247394 you've lost your data you cannot get it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01012-00247396-00247626 back because that's why it's said that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01013-00247627-00247854 no one else can get it you can't get it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01014-00247855-00248175 without that so that's that's the danger
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01015-00248176-00248294 which is why they don't tend to turn
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01016-00248296-00248586 them on by default can I ask you one
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01017-00248587-00248814 more thing on devices because the thing
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01018-00248815-00248952 we're not going to get too fancy day
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01019-00248953-00249090 trista we're gonna have to tell you back
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01020-00249091-00249465 to talk about phones somebody else Tonio
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01021-00249466-00249696 bone do I need to pack up my data before
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01022-00249696-00250073 mine picked it and obviously that backup
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01023-00250075-00250344 would be ideally encrypted when it was
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01024-00250344-00250512 being encrypted but is it a good idea
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01025-00250513-00250812 before you turn on these things to do a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01026-00250813-00251192 backup what's your suggestion look like
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01027-00251194-00251478 to Murphy's Law after being there of two
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01029-00251521-00251709 Murphy's Law what can go wrong will go
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01030-00251710-00252071 wrong so yes if you turn I would always
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01032-00252475-00252692 something that's a major change because
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01034-00252883-00253086 doing a desktop you're doing the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01035-00253087-00253346 Locker and there's power cut so it's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01036-00253348-00253476 halfway through the encryption of the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01037-00253477-00253734 drive windows can sometimes be good at
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01038-00253735-00253875 recovery but it could be in a long
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01039-00253876-00254286 moment it could be all sorts doesn't it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01040-00254287-00254502 when it seems to forget where it is and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01041-00254503-00254751 so I would always do a backup but you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01042-00254752-00254894 should be doing that as part you process
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01043-00254896-00255126 be all ready now to have the back of the
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01049-00256276-00256496 backups I tend to recommend online is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01050-00256498-00256646 always file based so you make sure each
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01051-00256648-00256892 user correct files and the big thing for
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01052-00256894-00257100 back of the you should be able to answer
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01053-00257101-00257388 this question I want to restore the data
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01054-00257389-00257610 in this folder whichever folder you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01055-00257611-00257877 pointed out as it was on let's say for
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01058-00258457-00258660 specific date to restore a specific
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01059-00258661-00258921 folder it's not a proper backup you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01060-00258921-00259094 should always be able to choose a date
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01061-00259094-00259404 which is why your Dropbox onedrive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01062-00259405-00259584 things like that are not backups they
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01063-00259585-00259742 have backup properties and then not
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01064-00259744-00260021 backups yes I can't wonder like back to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01065-00260023-00260328 the first of March today I can I can get
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01066-00260329-00260700 badges yeah and that's the point you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01067-00260701-00260841 should be able to do it to a file over
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01068-00260842-00261066 to a folder as well as a file but a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01069-00261067-00261351 folder and say I want that as it was on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01070-00261352-00261516 a particular date button you know you've
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01072-00261798-00262023 I would always treat a backup are saying
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01073-00262023-00262251 right the backup has its own encryption
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01074-00262252-00262428 which may be a separate passwords what
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01075-00262429-00262635 you use on your computer and turn on the
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01077-00262885-00263244 whatever software you use it and good if
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01078-00263245-00263496 you're looking to pay for one a a very
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01079-00263497-00263790 good one is Acronis as a at all which is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01080-00263791-00264036 called Acronis True Image it's not
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01081-00264037-00264338 overly expensive it's around 40 50 quid
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01082-00264339-00264624 it will give you the option that you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01083-00264625-00264780 tick the box you put a password in and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01084-00264781-00265089 it will encrypt the file it makes but it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01085-00265090-00265332 will also do all the management of the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01086-00265333-00265644 backup so for instance if you were to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01087-00265645-00265845 try and backup your entire hard drive in
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01088-00265846-00266109 full every single time you do it you're
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01089-00266110-00266265 going to run out of space very quickly
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01090-00266266-00266460 because you want several versions
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01092-00266686-00266985 backup software should do a what's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01093-00266986-00267290 called a differential or an intake that
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01094-00267291-00267573 backups what's changed they say in fact
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01095-00267574-00267792 that what has changed since the full
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01096-00267793-00268667 version and then every so often do it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01097-00268668-00268956 what to do before you encrypt your drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01098-00268957-00269145 if it's not already created you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01099-00269146-00269319 obviously need to check what version of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01100-00269320-00269424 things you're on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01101-00269425-00269607 is there anything when you're checking
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01102-00269608-00269838 your device properties age software
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01103-00269839-00270105 hardware that should make you go no I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01104-00270106-00270306 don't want to attempt this because some
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01105-00270307-00270576 people have said they've got s labels or
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01106-00270577-00270771 whatever that means they can't encrypt
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01108-00270976-00271368 no get a techie if you're unsure I'd say
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01109-00271369-00271785 get a techie and the the general the the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01110-00271786-00271938 whole concept of outsourcing especially
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01111-00271939-00272202 for bas you you do your business because
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01112-00272203-00272442 people outsource to you don't be afraid
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01113-00272443-00272721 to outsource back if you're unsure don't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01114-00272722-00272865 talk to someone they should they should
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01116-00273001-00273147 it should never be something off yeah
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01117-00273148-00273267 I'll do that and I'll tell you how much
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01118-00273268-00273624 it's gonna cost later it can be people
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01119-00273625-00273963 can do it remotely for you it people can
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01125-00274795-00275010 people for quotes and then that way you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01126-00275011-00275163 sort of get the comparison between the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01127-00275164-00275517 other to get recommendations of people
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01129-00275632-00275823 clients have very good trustworthy IT
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01130-00275824-00276030 people and they could actually recommend
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01131-00276031-00276366 to you so they're all big corporate IT
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01132-00276367-00276570 people so they won't even talk to me for
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01133-00276571-00276816 under two grand so that's why it's a bit
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01134-00276817-00276972 of a problem because we don't all have
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01135-00276973-00277287 those kind of budget yeah and there are
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01136-00277288-00277506 a lot of sort of a smaller business IT
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01137-00277507-00277785 like myself out there so what you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01138-00277786-00278028 generally want that makes so many nice
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01139-00278029-00278406 small business 19 and it's the and when
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01141-00278704-00278844 to give you that advice if you aren't
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01142-00278845-00279177 you are generally okay maybe on and I'm
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01143-00279178-00279351 so about this system but we will run out
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01144-00279352-00279537 of time and there's a couple of points I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01145-00279538-00279665 want to cover my
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01146-00279666-00279939 before you start encrypting your drive
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01147-00279940-00280160 from personal experience I just want to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01148-00280161-00280343 share a tip do not doing this if you've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01149-00280344-00280502 got a major piece of work to deliver
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01150-00280503-00280713 within the next couple of hours because
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01152-00281046-00281258 much data you've got on it already mine
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01153-00281259-00281459 took all night and I was really pleased
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01154-00281460-00281720 I said it off on a Friday night and how
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01155-00281721-00281924 long do they typically take systems
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01156-00281925-00282141 it varies completely about the spec of
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01157-00282142-00282359 the PC the hard drive how much data is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01158-00282360-00282605 encrypted I would always go for the full
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01159-00282606-00282762 hard drive to be encrypted there is a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01160-00282763-00283052 shorter version that it will only so
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01161-00283053-00283217 that could take anything from a couple
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01162-00283218-00283400 of hours to overnight it's not a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01163-00283401-00283628 10-minute job I would literally do
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01164-00283629-00283914 something like this on a case are you
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01165-00283915-00284064 you set to finish your work fighting
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01166-00284065-00284225 lights a great perfect example
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01167-00284226-00284330 especially if you do not work on
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01168-00284331-00284630 Saturday say six o'clock on Friday right
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01169-00284631-00284978 finished on a stock backup I've now done
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01170-00284979-00285189 my backup enough stop the encryption and
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01171-00285190-00285410 just let it go to finish generally
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01172-00285411-00285656 speaking overnight it should have
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01173-00285657-00285806 finished by the time you've got up in
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01174-00285807-00285971 the morning but if you give yourself
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01175-00285972-00286184 that bit of leeway definitely never do
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01176-00286185-00286382 it at the point where you know you've
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01177-00286383-00286547 got some big projects coming up because
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01178-00286548-00286748 again it's Murphy's Law what can go
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01179-00286749-00287141 wrong will go wrong so no that could be
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01180-00287142-00287285 a problem with the computer when it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01181-00287286-00287531 tries to do all problem windows that's
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01182-00287532-00288433 why you do your back at first anyhow
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01183-00288434-00288677 well win the last two minutes of our
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01184-00288678-00289166 webinar yeah it's saying she had to pay
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01185-00289167-00289379 a hundred and twenty quid to upgrade her
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01186-00289380-00289604 windows and the mode saying he found a
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01187-00289605-00289871 site that did it for a lot less I'm
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01190-00290295-00290562 to pay this to upgrade what is your
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01191-00290563-00290766 revised about upgrading your Windows
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01193-00291064-00291293 to upgrade for Windows from home to
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01194-00291294-00291425 professional there's a few different
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01196-00291594-00292052 offers on the license please Jaqueline
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01197-00292053-00292191 got a hundred and twenty good that's the
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01198-00292192-00292427 big difference yes if you go directly
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01201-00292950-00293071 paid our epic
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01202-00293072-00293215 Microsoft just set it I think it's
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01204-00293357-00293698 room 20 quit mark there because there is
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01205-00293699-00294013 a more of a battle on me with the EU
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01223-00297784-00298078 with the way you can be quite confident
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01228-00299138-00299416 so and if you you brought that license
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01233-00300436-00300688 that fire a credit card and I know cuz
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01239-00301631-00301972 resolve it though the the Microsoft Word
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01241-00302108-00302344 pricing wars pricing battles they just
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01245-00303002-00303220 Microsoft one is simplest purely because
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01250-00304040-00304348 little bit scary to you I'm actresses
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01251-00304349-00304630 and they okay whatever version they're a
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01259-00306381-00306593 here about which is Tristan do you do
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01262-00306966-00307160 interested we live in a world of virtual
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01264-00307368-00307610 need more help so what I tend to do is I
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01265-00307611-00307799 offer a completely free health check
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01268-00308564-00309167 services at TL Martin dot Ltd UK I will
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01369-00333617-00333846 say Tristan thank you very much I'm a
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+zwN2OYk3uM4-01395-00340346-00340551 time Tristan what a walk really
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01396-00340552-00340650 appreciate it
+zwN2OYk3uM4-01397-00340651-00341028 speak to you soon bye
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+zBYLCu337jc-00168-00041208-00041657 to do that so I kisa green change
+zBYLCu337jc-00169-00041658-00041846 management as I say here right on are
+zBYLCu337jc-00170-00041847-00042125 the last couple of months you've there's
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+zBYLCu337jc-00173-00042558-00042950 really that issue right as the last
+zBYLCu337jc-00174-00042951-00043073 bullet there is anything particularly
+zBYLCu337jc-00175-00043074-00043376 interesting some of you on the call here
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+zBYLCu337jc-00182-00044790-00045005 breached because of that lack of clear
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+zBYLCu337jc-00185-00045396-00045590 bad guys were able to flip through so
+zBYLCu337jc-00186-00045591-00045716 again there there's so many
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+zBYLCu337jc-00188-00046074-00046358 opportunities to blow it so the
+zBYLCu337jc-00189-00046359-00046490 important thing the important thing is
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+zBYLCu337jc-00194-00047667-00048152 come as their Jeff now that's accurate i
+zBYLCu337jc-00195-00048153-00048386 mean we look at a lot of the attack
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+zBYLCu337jc-00198-00048732-00048911 still the number one attack those are
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+zBYLCu337jc-00200-00049089-00049376 things that script kiddies most of those
+zBYLCu337jc-00201-00049377-00049694 in almost every case that we see out
+zBYLCu337jc-00202-00049695-00049871 there could have been stopped just by
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+zBYLCu337jc-00206-00050771-00051277 very much so very much so and this is a
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+zBYLCu337jc-00209-00051755-00051986 folks will look all here can relate to
+zBYLCu337jc-00210-00051987-00052330 right there are so many tools so many
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+zBYLCu337jc-00214-00053216-00053457 and it can get to be too much work for
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+zBYLCu337jc-00216-00053654-00053965 to do a friend of mine calls at the fog
+zBYLCu337jc-00217-00053966-00054150 of more right there's so many different
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+zBYLCu337jc-00219-00054491-00054681 different mental aspects managing your
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+zBYLCu337jc-00225-00055702-00055822 here that make the customer happy
+zBYLCu337jc-00226-00055823-00056112 Pynchon right and security and correct
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+zBYLCu337jc-00228-00056244-00056461 which is again that's that's always a
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+zBYLCu337jc-00231-00057287-00057409 want to put this out to the group for
+zBYLCu337jc-00232-00057410-00057980 any any other definitions it's not a set
+zBYLCu337jc-00233-00057981-00058224 firm but this is one that we've used for
+zBYLCu337jc-00234-00058225-00058467 years right the ability to create edit
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+zBYLCu337jc-00237-00058831-00059023 and they build a balance risk of sort
+zBYLCu337jc-00238-00059024-00059342 activity but if that I have yet to see
+zBYLCu337jc-00239-00059343-00059629 at an executive level of solid
+zBYLCu337jc-00240-00059629-00059824 understanding Ananda excuse me I should
+zBYLCu337jc-00241-00059825-00060091 say a non-technical strong business
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+zBYLCu337jc-00250-00062012-00062365 were part of right we got a double-edged
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+zBYLCu337jc-00257-00063575-00063787 value proposition and again you know
+zBYLCu337jc-00258-00063788-00063940 it's one thing to say we've got these
+zBYLCu337jc-00259-00063941-00064113 great tools Budhan and all its wonderful
+zBYLCu337jc-00260-00064114-00064425 but a tool doesn't doesn't skip a bill
+zBYLCu337jc-00261-00064426-00064587 right it's not it's always how that
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+zBYLCu337jc-00264-00065550-00065775 so your gas
+zBYLCu337jc-00265-00065776-00066117 we certainly can be correlated as we've
+zBYLCu337jc-00266-00066118-00066372 got here to a number of a variety of
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+zBYLCu337jc-00270-00067180-00067465 on after the event the event could be
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+zBYLCu337jc-00272-00067648-00067863 of hardware software whatever the case
+zBYLCu337jc-00273-00067864-00068197 may be again you know being in a
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+zBYLCu337jc-00279-00069775-00070159 to ask questions or jump aid guys let's
+zBYLCu337jc-00280-00070160-00070516 see so legacy thinking right I've got an
+zBYLCu337jc-00281-00070517-00070960 X on that on the bottom there being able
+zBYLCu337jc-00282-00070961-00071355 to identify legacy get the default
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+zBYLCu337jc-00296-00075301-00075444 giving him a nineteen security
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+zBYLCu337jc-00301-00076576-00076875 definitely have the brainpower they
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+zBYLCu337jc-00304-00077423-00077607 whatever reason right that that legacy
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+zBYLCu337jc-00307-00078091-00078318 focused on today's issues and not really
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+zBYLCu337jc-00319-00081228-00081596 down in that essentially a long story
+zBYLCu337jc-00320-00081597-00081962 short they were charging they wanted to
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+zBYLCu337jc-00323-00082518-00082823 of money for for hard drives but at that
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+zBYLCu337jc-00328-00083745-00083972 story short the company did pay it and
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+zBYLCu337jc-00331-00084459-00084866 muscles so they because of a poor
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+zBYLCu337jc-00334-00085176-00085415 happened poor configuration management
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+zBYLCu337jc-00344-00088158-00088310 here developing good or excellent
+zBYLCu337jc-00345-00088311-00088523 succession planning right in your
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+zBYLCu337jc-00348-00089070-00089240 business folks that you support can take
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+zBYLCu337jc-00369-00094284-00094520 opinion here and thought everybody on
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+zBYLCu337jc-00381-00097188-00097484 on issues in non-technical terms so
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+zBYLCu337jc-00383-00097611-00097813 sometimes it was a hour and half meeting
+zBYLCu337jc-00384-00097814-00098090 but it it drove home the point not only
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+zBYLCu337jc-00386-00098343-00098534 that they have a vested interest in
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+zBYLCu337jc-00391-00099543-00099752 than people realize again business
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+zBYLCu337jc-00394-00100131-00100505 is key and then IT system managers CIO
+zBYLCu337jc-00395-00100506-00100817 Cisco security teams are just running
+zBYLCu337jc-00396-00100818-00101087 fast right its way in salt up all the
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+zBYLCu337jc-00408-00103530-00103688 need to do this with technology or in
+zBYLCu337jc-00409-00103689-00104110 one instance there was a sales team who
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+zBYLCu337jc-00413-00104904-00105184 customers and the i th see here you seen
+zBYLCu337jc-00414-00105185-00105320 came back is that sure we can do that
+zBYLCu337jc-00415-00105321-00105545 but your risk goes up significantly from
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+zBYLCu337jc-00419-00106065-00106178 oh this is great we have more foot we'll
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+zBYLCu337jc-00422-00106599-00106850 thinking that said wait a second we have
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+zBYLCu337jc-00438-00110352-00110516 it's got you've got to have strategic
+zBYLCu337jc-00439-00110517-00110648 thinking about it and have those
+zBYLCu337jc-00440-00110649-00110960 processes in place any comments there
+zBYLCu337jc-00441-00110961-00111396 Jeff yeah I think you made one point
+zBYLCu337jc-00442-00111397-00111587 that I'd like to really get out and
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+zBYLCu337jc-00444-00111757-00111926 that was we were talking about IT
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+zBYLCu337jc-00457-00114499-00114773 there when you look at the impact of
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+zBYLCu337jc-00488-00121579-00122036 great agreed i think another example
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+zBYLCu337jc-00490-00122314-00122454 of you on the phone here may have heard
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+zBYLCu337jc-00530-00131953-00132216 people I may be wrong there the point is
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+zBYLCu337jc-00550-00136838-00137824 good point Jeff so the change control
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+zBYLCu337jc-00552-00138122-00138295 obviously that you can you can go online
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+zBYLCu337jc-00609-00151490-00151975 another lengthy process but when stuff
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+zBYLCu337jc-00649-00160955-00161233 that guy teen configuration is a key
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+zBYLCu337jc-00653-00162226-00162541 that's critical right you chase Kate
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+zBYLCu337jc-00657-00163313-00163567 ridiculous too much way too much to
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+zBYLCu337jc-00674-00167351-00167551 questions from anybody so far so
+zBYLCu337jc-00675-00167552-00167941 surprised please feel free cuz you know
+zBYLCu337jc-00676-00167942-00168070 hearing the sound of my own voice gets
+zBYLCu337jc-00677-00168071-00168550 old after well and also a key point here
+zBYLCu337jc-00678-00168551-00168739 too is centralized management security
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+zBYLCu337jc-00680-00168956-00169252 right so it's one thing to from an IT
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+zBYLCu337jc-00702-00173948-00174529 for so next slide elements of successful
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+zBYLCu337jc-00717-00177899-00178039 things are just a pity you can look
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+zBYLCu337jc-01006-00247929-00248414 Jay thank you very much great
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+zBYLCu337jc-01051-00258656-00258952 well even though it's the boon it's also
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