2bHCo-qW4Gy-00000-00004114-00004477 the conference is breathing vertically
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00001-00004478-00004694 at night what about my trip to get you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00003-00009396-00009844 want to as you know here on campus
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00004-00009845-00010163 June 11th as well the summer is going to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00005-00010164-00012921 be co-hosting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00006-00012922-00015535 otherwise she's one of the most
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00007-00015536-00016025 unassuming people at work and she's and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00008-00016026-00016291 so one of the beautiful things about the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00009-00016293-00016447 University of Michigan is that every
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00010-00016448-00016628 sidewalk teachers directly to the top
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00011-00016629-00016925 ten school and we have this ridiculous
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00012-00016926-00017333 surplus super talented people who
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00013-00017334-00017489 studied things in an interdisciplinary
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00014-00017490-00017921 way so professor Anderson takes on more
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00015-00017922-00018224 psychology at the explodable philosophy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00016-00018225-00018521 feminist theory she has recently
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00017-00018522-00019355 published this book talk about so lots
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00018-00019356-00019586 to eat many of us spend a lot of time
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00019-00019587-00019796 thinking about or the government
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00020-00019797-00020708 insurance underlying so you're here
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00021-00020709-00022361 today
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00022-00022362-00022683 thank you it's really great to be able
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00023-00022684-00022908 to address you today this is a small
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00024-00022909-00023100 piece of a very big project I'm working
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00025-00023101-00023439 on which is on the history of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00026-00023440-00023649 Protestant work ethic from the mid 17th
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00027-00023650-00023958 century when it originated all the way
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00028-00023959-00024291 to the present and I'm I'm doing a run
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00029-00024292-00024585 through major figures of political
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00030-00024586-00024879 economy including Adam Smith from Stuart
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00031-00024880-00024942 Mill's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00032-00024943-00025392 Jeremy Bentham Malthus and and what I've
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00033-00025393-00025572 been discovering is that if you read
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00034-00025573-00025919 these figures from the perspective of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00035-00025920-00026144 the work ethic you find that all of them
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00036-00026145-00026370 are positively dripping with work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00037-00026370-00026610 values which I don't think has been
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00038-00026611-00026901 clearly recognized but furthermore we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00039-00026902-00027117 can trace the influence of the work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00040-00027118-00027354 ethic all the way to the present look
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00041-00027355-00027530 for instance at configuring
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00042-00027531-00027768 configurations of contemporary welfare
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00043-00027769-00028062 policies in the United States and find
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00044-00028063-00028332 work ethic assumptions absolutely
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00045-00028333-00028570 pervading practically everything we do
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00046-00028572-00028877 and consequently I think it's high time
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00047-00028879-00029199 that we go back to the 17th century and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00048-00029200-00029529 sort it out because we're still living
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00049-00029530-00029982 under the influence of these ideas let's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00050-00029983-00030231 start off with the classic exposition of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00051-00030232-00030417 the products of work ethic by Max Weber
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00052-00030418-00030815 in 1920 he wrote this great work called
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00053-00030816-00030983 the Protestant ethic and the spirit of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00054-00030985-00031347 capitalism and in this work he was very
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00055-00031348-00031557 very critical of the work ethic which is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00056-00031558-00031770 kind of interesting because Mike's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00057-00031770-00031968 neighborhood south was famous for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00058-00031969-00032315 advocating a so-called valued free or
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00059-00032316-00032712 value neutral social science but but he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00060-00032713-00033087 let him have it in this work he argued
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00061-00033088-00033237 that the work ethic Stickley
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00062-00033238-00033440 rationalized the capitalist exploitation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00063-00033441-00033765 of workers willingness to work right it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00064-00033766-00034014 gave workers a kind of theological view
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00065-00034015-00034299 of things that made them sick sense that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00066-00034300-00034518 they had a duty to give their all to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00067-00034519-00034674 their employer and the employers just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00068-00034675-00035010 exploited that and it was all done in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00069-00035011-00035346 the name of maximizing profits
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00070-00035347-00035790 this hollow goal that wasn't worth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00071-00035791-00036348 people's absolute dedication and it made
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00072-00036349-00036561 me condemn the whole thing is putting us
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00073-00036562-00036909 all into an iron cage and these the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00074-00036910-00037161 Puritans had theological reasons for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00075-00037162-00037416 working so hard but we left those
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00076-00037417-00037590 reasons behind it were totally
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00077-00037591-00037809 secularized so we complain that the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00078-00037810-00038118 Puritan wanted to work in a calling but
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00079-00038119-00038429 we are forced to do so by market forces
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00080-00038430-00038778 so for us the work ethic has turned into
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00081-00038779-00039345 a prison I think in order to understand
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00082-00039346-00039525 this we really need to go back to the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00083-00039526-00039783 beginnings of the work ethic it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00084-00039784-00040029 basically a 17th century Puritan
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00085-00040030-00040461 doctrine and I'll make reference here to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00086-00040462-00040737 what I think is the greatest theologian
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00087-00040738-00041081 of the work ethic Richard Baxter's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00088-00041082-00041435 incredibly interesting Puritan
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00089-00041436-00041772 theologian and this is what he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00090-00041773-00042084 originally required of us this is what
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00091-00042085-00042368 he thought that every Christian was
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00092-00042369-00042888 required to do each of us must engage in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00093-00042889-00043140 disciplined work in a calling that is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00094-00043141-00043383 God has called us to a specialized
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00095-00043384-00043779 occupation or worldly effort and we have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00096-00043780-00044079 to dedicate ourselves to that we're not
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00097-00044080-00044288 allowed to waste any time
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00098-00044289-00044700 the Puritans are famously impatient not
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00099-00044701-00045126 supposed to be idle as Baxter said work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00100-00045127-00045528 rest must follow labor right you're only
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00101-00045529-00045696 allowed to rest after you've exhausted
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00102-00045697-00046104 yourself for work you're not allowed to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00103-00046105-00046518 waste any material goods God has given
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00104-00046519-00046797 the whole earth and all of its natural
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00105-00046798-00047118 resources for us to use to improve human
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00106-00047119-00047373 welfare so you're not allowed to waste
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00107-00047374-00047634 any of this stuff our job on earth is to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00108-00047635-00048048 execute God's will okay God wants us to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00109-00048049-00048249 help each other and promote human
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00110-00048250-00048456 welfare so don't waste anything about
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00111-00048457-00048531 trash
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00112-00048532-00048993 here we also shouldn't indulge in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00113-00048994-00049206 worldly pleasures or any kind of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00114-00049207-00049314 vanities
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00115-00049315-00049764 that's just covetousness it's a sin okay
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00116-00049765-00050031 and we shouldn't even want more than it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00117-00050032-00050373 strictly needed to do our duty now he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00118-00050374-00050586 acknowledged that if you're a fancy sort
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00119-00050587-00050901 of person with a fancy occupation like
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00120-00050902-00051261 ambassador that maybe you will need more
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00121-00051262-00051446 to do your duty you might need finer
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00122-00051447-00051746 clothing and a fancy mansion to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00123-00051747-00052101 entertain people so he allowed that you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00124-00052102-00052344 could have some inequality but he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00125-00052345-00052569 worried that the great ambassador who's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00126-00052570-00052851 doing all these fancy things risked his
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00127-00052852-00053105 soul because you could go overboard into
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00128-00053107-00053309 vanity and then your soul would be lost
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00129-00053310-00053729 at the same time though Baxter also
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00130-00053730-00054159 argued that every man has a duty to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00131-00054160-00054450 frugally get and Sabbath as much as he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00132-00054451-00054825 can so there's the heart the idea of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00133-00054826-00055077 profit maximization right there now you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00134-00055078-00055391 wonder what on earth someone would do
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00135-00055392-00055635 with all that money they're not allowed
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00136-00055636-00056025 to spend it on themselves and this is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00137-00056026-00056334 this is before the era of where we could
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00138-00056335-00056694 imagine just endless economic growth so
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00139-00056695-00056895 he didn't have a concept that you just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00140-00056896-00057141 constantly reinvest all that savings
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00141-00057141-00057402 into your business for growth that just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00142-00057403-00057750 wasn't really on the horizon figures in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00143-00057751-00058254 the mid 17th century instead Baxter
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00144-00058254-00058788 argued that if you pile up all this
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00145-00058789-00058977 money you can't spend it all yourself
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00146-00058978-00059192 you still are not allowed to waste any
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00147-00059194-00059261 of it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00148-00059262-00059700 so you do have to spend it who do we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00149-00059701-00059988 spend it on you must spend it on your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00150-00059989-00060317 needy brethren he invented the doctrine
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00151-00060319-00060846 of effective altruism okay so there's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00152-00060847-00061038 the origins of philanthropy right there
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00153-00061039-00061372 the mid 17th century
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00154-00061373-00061659 although I'm Baxter's view one of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00155-00061660-00061921 fundamental reasons to do all of these
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00156-00061922-00062240 duties is to gain certainty of salvation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00157-00062241-00062616 Baxter was a good behaviorist so he's a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00158-00062617-00063003 Calvinist and at like all Protestants he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00159-00063004-00063184 believed in justification by faith alone
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00160-00063185-00063472 but how could you possibly know whether
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00161-00063473-00063747 you really have faith in God you can't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00162-00063748-00063998 introspect he's a behaviorist
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00163-00063999-00064305 introspection is not reliable because
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00164-00064306-00064590 everyone is so desperate to get saved
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00165-00064591-00064747 that they're just going to fool
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00166-00064748-00064947 themselves into thinking that they have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00167-00064948-00065241 faith in God the only way to tell is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00168-00065242-00065667 that me working like the dickens so you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00169-00065668-00065832 tell from your own external behavior
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00170-00065833-00066162 whether you really have faith okay yeah
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00171-00066163-00066591 as I pointed out Weber thought that the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00172-00066592-00066987 work ethic was nothing more than an
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00173-00066988-00067200 ethic designed to rationalize the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00174-00067201-00067380 consignment of workers to endless
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00175-00067381-00067701 drudgery but I went back and read
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00176-00067702-00067928 Richard Baxter yes it's wonderful
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00177-00067929-00068349 five-volume comprehensive christian
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00178-00068350-00068541 directory with the christian directory
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00179-00068542-00068907 is a comprehensive account of the duties
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00180-00068908-00069141 of a Christian and believe me he has a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00181-00069142-00069329 lot in it question and answer format
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00182-00069330-00069579 like what if this happens what should I
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00183-00069580-00069622 do
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00184-00069623-00069867 he's actually a terrific English writer
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00185-00069868-00070485 and and when I went back and read Baxter
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00186-00070486-00070710 although there is this harsh side to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00187-00070711-00070998 Baxter we are working like crazy and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00188-00070999-00071359 don't get any rest he actually has a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00189-00071360-00071604 very strong Pro workers side that I
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00190-00071605-00072051 think Weber neglected and that's what I
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00191-00072052-00072630 want to stress today it's not just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00192-00072631-00072861 Baxter but another wonderful parroted
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00193-00072862-00073301 Minister Robert Sanderson has a terrific
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00194-00073302-00073737 sermon in which he explains how one is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00195-00073738-00074001 to discover one's calling everyone has a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00196-00074002-00074307 duty to follow the calling that is the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00197-00074308-00074538 specialized occupation to which God has
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00198-00074539-00074657 called
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00199-00074658-00074922 and sanderson in the course of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00200-00074923-00075240 explaining how you figure out what your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00201-00075241-00075608 calling is invented the modern
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00202-00075609-00076452 discipline career advising so how do you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00203-00076453-00076785 find out what you have to do what kind
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00204-00076786-00077043 of occupation would you like and what
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00205-00077044-00077277 has your education city to you to and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00206-00077278-00077544 could you really stand working in this
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00207-00077545-00077880 occupation for a long time right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00208-00077881-00078090 basically he's not you it's not your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00209-00078091-00078342 tastes and also your parents because
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00210-00078343-00078504 they love you and they care about you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00211-00078505-00078660 and you probably have a pretty good idea
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00212-00078661-00078969 of what you would be good at right and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00213-00078970-00079215 so in this wonderful way that's so
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00214-00079216-00079404 characteristic of the Puritans that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00215-00079405-00079605 convert duties into individual rights
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00216-00079606-00079938 right everyone has our right to the free
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00217-00079939-00080241 choice of occupation because they can
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00218-00080242-00080463 only know from you know from their own
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00219-00080464-00080709 temperaments what would be a good
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00220-00080710-00081357 occupation for that baxter stress the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00221-00081358-00081756 dignity of all workers even the most
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00222-00081757-00082131 menial worker does God's will and should
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00223-00082132-00082500 be honored on that account in fact the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00224-00082501-00082719 work ethic is trying to uplift the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00225-00082720-00083202 standing of ordinary workers the people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00226-00083203-00083624 really can be despised are the items
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00227-00083625-00083904 including the idle rich which I'll get
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00228-00083905-00084096 to in a moment
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00229-00084097-00084348 workers Baxter sentence are entitled to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00230-00084349-00084636 meaningful work hottest labor profitable
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00231-00084637-00084789 for the Commonwealth we have to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00232-00084790-00085200 recognize that even workers who are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00233-00085201-00085635 doing what we consider drudgery are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00234-00085636-00085854 doing socially necessary work that's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00235-00085855-00086043 advancing the welfare of human beings
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00236-00086044-00086279 think about people who are you know
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00237-00086280-00086525 cleaning out porta-potties or something
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00238-00086526-00086823 right or you know any kind of cleaning
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00239-00086824-00087324 work tends to be ranked very lowly today
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00240-00087325-00087643 but Baxter says look we have to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00241-00087644-00087922 it's socially necessary these people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00242-00087923-00088093 should be honored they're doing God's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00243-00088094-00088425 work they're promoting even welfare
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00244-00088426-00088669 workers are entitled to relief from
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00245-00088670-00089035 employers abuses Baxter warrants
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00246-00089036-00089365 employers to rule your employees don't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00247-00089366-00089776 rule them tyrannically workers are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00248-00089777-00089959 entitled to safe and healthful
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00249-00089960-00090454 conditions they're entitled to fair and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00250-00090455-00091087 living wages the poor have a right to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00251-00091088-00091792 charity and eventually although you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00252-00091793-00092218 don't get much rest here on earth upon
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00253-00092219-00092541 summation you get everlasting rest
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00254-00092542-00093382 finally Turtles and finally Baxter
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00255-00093383-00093712 railed against the idle rich they have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00256-00093713-00093940 to labor to think of those lazy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00257-00093941-00094126 landlords they're just collecting all
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00258-00094127-00094347 these rents around lifting a finger
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00259-00094348-00094765 God has strictly commanded labour to arm
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00260-00094766-00095224 and if you read john locke writing oh
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00261-00095225-00095632 just a few decades after baxter in the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00262-00095633-00095929 first treatise of government blocked
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00263-00095930-00096289 asks and answers the very same question
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00264-00096290-00096580 against the identical answer that Baxter
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00265-00096581-00096949 does in the christian directory the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00266-00096950-00097261 question if I'm so rich that I could
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00267-00097262-00097555 just hire other people to do my work is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00268-00097556-00097747 that good enough to fill my Christian
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00269-00097748-00098149 duty Baxter and Locke's answer was no
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00270-00098150-00098680 because God told Adam he had to work by
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00271-00098681-00098854 the sweat of his brows and ended his
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00272-00098855-00099195 days and that's a universal commandment
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00273-00099196-00099622 alright what happened to the work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00274-00099623-00100075 well Max Weber accurately argues that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00275-00100076-00100300 the work ethic became secularize over
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00276-00100301-00100537 time the original theological rationale
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00277-00100538-00100693 for the work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00278-00100694-00100885 based on the idea that you have to work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00279-00100886-00101071 like the dickens and their breasts and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00280-00101072-00101284 save all your money in order to obtain
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00281-00101285-00101491 certainty of salvation that's miles away
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00282-00101492-00101869 but by then we've only internalized this
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00283-00101870-00102274 ethos of the work ethic okay
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00284-00102275-00102609 and by the late 18th century in the turn
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00285-00102610-00102844 of the 19th century we get the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00286-00102845-00103129 Industrial Revolution and here's the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00287-00103130-00103410 critical thing he said if you go back to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00288-00103411-00103588 the curtain writers who is the model
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00289-00103589-00103795 worker it would be somebody like a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00290-00103796-00104197 yeoman farmer or a master craftsman and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00291-00104198-00104436 what's interesting about that type of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00292-00104438-00104647 worker is that they're both manual
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00293-00104648-00104943 laborers and they own their own capital
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00294-00104944-00105241 and consequently they have both the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00295-00105242-00105817 duties and the rewards combined in the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00296-00105818-00106078 same person right the duties of the work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00297-00106079-00106408 ethic have certain rewards attached to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00298-00106408-00106633 them but they're combined into the same
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00299-00106633-00106864 person right what me it doesn't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00300-00106865-00107206 revolution did was that it's split the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00301-00107207-00107557 honors of enterprise that's a separate
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00302-00107558-00107728 class of people from the people who are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00303-00107729-00108133 doing all the work okay and finite and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00304-00108133-00108514 class divisions that raised the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00305-00108515-00108817 possibility that the burdens of the work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00306-00108818-00109075 ethic might be assigned to one group and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00307-00109076-00109738 the benefits to another okay and that's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00308-00109739-00109908 precisely what happened
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00309-00109908-00110365 now Baber stresses the version of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00310-00110366-00110599 work ethic in which the benefits all go
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00311-00110600-00110872 to the capitalist that is the owner of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00312-00110873-00111163 the enterprise and all the burdens and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00313-00111164-00111376 duties of the work ethic are assigned to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00314-00111377-00111727 the working class but when I found in my
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00315-00111728-00111991 readings is that there's another version
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00316-00111992-00112324 of the wit work ethic in which that's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00317-00112325-00112689 not true in which indeed workers are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00318-00112690-00112981 entitled to the benefits of all the hard
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00319-00112982-00113338 work that they're doing and that's I
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00320-00113339-00113614 think a aspect of the work ethic that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00321-00113615-00113934 Weber missed out but we can find both
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00322-00113935-00114013 tradition
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00323-00114014-00114349 the work ethic continuously and the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00324-00114350-00114517 history political economy all the ways
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00325-00114518-00114856 the present so here I'm going to give
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00326-00114857-00115174 you to secularize work ethics and show
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00327-00115175-00115383 you the essential contrast between the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00328-00115384-00115627 two of them and you should find the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00329-00115628-00115816 claims on both sides completely familiar
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00330-00115817-00116008 because they've even continued to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00331-00116008-00116433 present debates so the conservative view
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00332-00116434-00116898 here is the you know pro-capitalist view
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00333-00116899-00117178 right that the benefit should go to the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00334-00117179-00117427 owners and the progressive side I'm
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00335-00117428-00117574 calling for residents the pro-worker
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00336-00117575-00117778 view that the benefits of the work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00337-00117779-00118030 should go to the workers so I'm a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00338-00118031-00118219 conservative view the only people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00339-00118220-00118390 entitled to dignity are those who are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00340-00118391-00118639 self-sufficient the poor are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00341-00118640-00118867 presumptively undeserving if they have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00342-00118868-00119152 to rely on some state welfare assistance
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00343-00119153-00119464 or something or private charity that's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00344-00119465-00119674 just proof that they're not really
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00345-00119675-00119875 deserving only the self sufficient are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00346-00119876-00120121 deserving wears on the progressive view
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00347-00120122-00120388 what is stressed is that all workers are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00348-00120389-00120682 entitled the dignity and to meaningful
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00349-00120683-00121273 work the conservative view you find the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00350-00121274-00121450 origins of the idea of shareholder
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00351-00121451-00121804 capitalism I think you had a maximize
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00352-00121805-00122164 profit policy should favor the interests
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00353-00122165-00122365 of capital over the interests of labor
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00354-00122366-00122833 maybe you say tax capital almost not at
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00355-00122833-00123458 all and put most of the taxes on wages
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00356-00123459-00123700 where's progressives believe that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00357-00123701-00124010 workers are entitled to high and rising
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00358-00124011-00124635 wages as Adam Smith argued in the wealth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00359-00124636-00125009 of nations the conservative you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00360-00125010-00125257 consistently prefers that the needy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00361-00125258-00125566 should rely on private charity or if
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00362-00125567-00125842 they rely on the state work conditions
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00363-00125843-00126196 should be attached to whatever state
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00364-00126197-00126483 benefits they get just like in current
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00365-00126484-00126817 Medicaid expansion exemption way
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00366-00126818-00126967 use that states are getting where they
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00367-00126968-00127171 want to impose work requirements on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00368-00127172-00127386 access to Medicaid so these ideas are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00369-00127388-00127809 still around whereas the progressive you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00370-00127810-00128122 said minute in a couple workers have a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00371-00128123-00128350 right to comprehensive social insurance
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00372-00128351-00128596 and even unconditional benefits of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00373-00128597-00128815 various sorts and so you can see the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00374-00128816-00129161 roots of the social democratic tradition
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00375-00129163-00129672 also trace back to certain isms
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00376-00129673-00129931 conservatives argue that workers should
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00377-00129932-00130156 not get any vacations they haven't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00378-00130157-00130509 earned no leaves that they haven't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00379-00130510-00130785 earned and indeed that's the standard
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00380-00130786-00130969 for the United States we don't have any
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00381-00130970-00131185 state guaranteed vacations only about
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00382-00131186-00131512 half of workers even get paid vacation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00383-00131513-00131716 as part of their labor contract an
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00384-00131717-00131941 America is so deeply imbued with the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00385-00131942-00132136 work out they don't even take all the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00386-00132137-00132750 earned vacation they're entitled to okay
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00387-00132751-00133063 raise progressives argued and in in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00388-00133064-00133258 Western Europe at least largely got
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00389-00133259-00133606 rights to maximum hours paid vacations
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00390-00133607-00133906 and leaves Denmark for instance workers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00391-00133907-00134505 get five weeks of paid vacation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00392-00134506-00135055 imagine that conservatives argued for a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00393-00135056-00135265 workplace regime that we can call the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00394-00135266-00135535 dictatorship of the bourgeoisie right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00395-00135536-00135766 fins the honors right are dictators over
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00396-00135767-00136021 the workers right they run the factories
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00397-00136022-00136180 the work that's got to take all the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00398-00136181-00136573 orders whereas progressive advocates of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00399-00136574-00136771 the work ethic who want the benefits of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00400-00136772-00136936 the work ethic to accrue to workers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00401-00136937-00137205 advocated thing worker self-governance
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00402-00137206-00137517 right workers should on their own firms
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00403-00137518-00137908 maybe in a co-op workers coop coop or be
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00404-00137909-00138275 self-employed
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00405-00138276-00138543 so now let's consider the work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00406-00138544-00138945 today I'm skipping over a few centuries
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00407-00138946-00139113 of history but I guarantee you if you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00408-00139114-00139248 have any questions I could tell you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00409-00139249-00139737 about how various figures in classical
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00410-00139738-00140037 political economy carried through these
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00411-00140038-00140343 two different versions of the work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00412-00140344-00140598 but I'm going to jump ahead to today and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00413-00140599-00140903 here we can see something interesting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00414-00140904-00141536 happening in the mid 1970s you can see
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00415-00141537-00141906 from the post-world War two ERA till
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00416-00141907-00142227 about nineteen seventy two or three an
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00417-00142228-00142587 era of equitable growth where workers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00418-00142588-00143100 wages rose exactly in line with growth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00419-00143101-00143481 of GDP per capita and then starting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00420-00143482-00143810 around 1972 we see a massive divergence
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00421-00143811-00144372 GDP per capita is keeps on rising
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00422-00144373-00144576 actually this is productivity growth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00423-00144577-00144825 it's it's productivity growth keeps on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00424-00144826-00145244 rising but hourly compensation stagnates
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00425-00145245-00145523 okay this has been going on for decades
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00426-00145524-00146358 since the seventies that's just us data
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00427-00146359-00146568 but if you look at advance the rich
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00428-00146569-00146784 countries worldwide we can see that the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00429-00146785-00147323 labor share income has been declining
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00430-00147324-00147578 although we do an exception for CEOs
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00431-00147579-00147951 like they really made out big time right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00432-00147952-00148125 and here you can see CEO compensation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00433-00148126-00148485 has just yell at the head one of that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00434-00148486-00148789 compensation comes from the linking of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00435-00148790-00149322 their compensation to the stock share
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00436-00149323-00149574 shareholder value increasing shareholder
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00437-00149575-00149724 value so they they're getting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00438-00149725-00149988 compensated by the purportedly the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00439-00149989-00150132 degree to which they're helping up
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00440-00150133-00150404 shareholders and reaping greater profits
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00441-00150405-00150663 for them
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00442-00150664-00150953 there's a problem though is that in the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00443-00150954-00151314 17th century most of the super-rich were
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00444-00151315-00151575 items okay we're looking at the lazy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00445-00151576-00151770 aristocrats they really didn't have to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00446-00151771-00151974 do anything they could follow all the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00447-00151975-00152303 real works at underlings okay and in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00448-00152304-00152511 fact Adam Smith in his lectures on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00449-00152512-00152828 jurisprudence observed that in reality
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00450-00152829-00153375 here is writing in the 1760s or so in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00451-00153376-00153546 reality there's an inverse correlation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00452-00153547-00153801 between how wealthy you are and how hard
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00453-00153802-00154364 you work okay but today is different
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00454-00154365-00154653 okay those CEOs they're working like
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00455-00154654-00155253 crazy insane hours so an interesting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00456-00155254-00155874 case comes with George Bush Jr's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00457-00155875-00156084 secretary of the Treasury I can't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00458-00156085-00156258 remember his name now but George headed
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00459-00156259-00156675 out Khoa I'm sorry all of you follow me
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00460-00156676-00157050 oh yes near Times Sunday magazine had an
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00461-00157051-00157299 interesting profile of him when he was
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00462-00157300-00157553 secretary of the Treasury and they
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00463-00157554-00157740 pointed out that his life looked like
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00464-00157741-00158106 this he would wake up before his kids
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00465-00158107-00158453 woke up and go to work he would come
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00466-00158454-00158826 home after his kids were put to bed he
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00467-00158827-00159438 worked 364 days per year in other words
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00468-00159439-00159603 he saw his kids
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00469-00159604-00160149 just one day a year Christmas okay so
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00470-00160150-00160512 this guy's working like crazy okay now
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00471-00160513-00160818 not every CEO works that hard but we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00472-00160819-00161213 could see here in this chart an
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00473-00161214-00161556 interesting trend which is that these
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00474-00161557-00162041 days as income Rises people are actually
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00475-00162042-00162498 working more harder for hours okay the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00476-00162499-00162927 richer you are the more hours you are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00477-00162928-00163200 working and that represents a shift the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00478-00163201-00163545 important stuff here is for men women of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00479-00163546-00163740 course during this period you have the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00480-00163741-00163844 feminist movement
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00481-00163845-00164222 a lot of women were housewives and then
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00482-00164223-00164566 we'll be into the workforce so we have a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00483-00164567-00164846 confounding variable on the left-hand
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00484-00164847-00165143 side of this chart but for men I think
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00485-00165144-00165437 the most interesting thing here is that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00486-00165438-00165815 it here in the 70s when we come then
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00487-00165816-00166007 we're doing an awful lot of over
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00488-00166008-00166115 counting and now that's really
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00489-00166116-00166469 plummeting right and so we could see
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00490-00166470-00166802 here that basically the higher your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00491-00166803-00167168 income status the more the more likely
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00492-00167169-00167432 you are to be working fifty four more
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00493-00167433-00167762 hours a week and that's an accelerating
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00494-00167763-00168082 trend and consequently we have available
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00495-00168083-00168413 today our rationale for these super high
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00496-00168414-00168821 incomes of the CEOs that that put wasn't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00497-00168822-00169052 available to the lazy aristocrats of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00498-00169053-00169304 past right there is fresh didn't lift a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00499-00169305-00169490 finger but these people they're working
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00500-00169491-00169748 like crazy right so I can say well of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00501-00169749-00170257 course we deserve it all right okay so
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00502-00170258-00170717 is that true is that true well let us
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00503-00170718-00170987 recall that according to the Puritans it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00504-00170988-00171338 wasn't enough just to be very busy it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00505-00171339-00171560 was important that the work one dies be
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00506-00171561-00171845 actually productive and by productive
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00507-00171846-00172019 Baxter Memphis and a strictly
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00508-00172020-00172508 utilitarian sense okay the Puritans not
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00509-00172509-00172838 Jeremy Bentham invented utilitarianism
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00510-00172839-00173299 okay a full century before Bentham right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00511-00173300-00173783 work only count says work if it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00512-00173784-00174113 promoting the welfare of other people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00513-00174114-00174431 not just what's up okay
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00514-00174432-00174884 it's a pretty stringent standard so
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00515-00174885-00175205 here's Baxter arguing against just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00516-00175206-00175502 activities in which one extracts wealth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00517-00175503-00175679 from system without contributing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00518-00175680-00175949 anything he says it's a prison and a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00519-00175950-00176174 constant calamity can be tied to spend
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00520-00176175-00176366 one's life and doing little did it all
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00521-00176367-00176657 to others though we should grow rich by
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00522-00176658-00176969 it himself so in other words even here
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00523-00176970-00177200 really really busy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00524-00177201-00177474 piling up money doing sock that will
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00525-00177475-00177721 that will send flows of money to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00526-00177722-00177915 yourself even if you're doing this urges
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00527-00177916-00178144 in five days a year you still have to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00528-00178145-00178401 ask is this really productive activities
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00529-00178402-00178824 of helping other people okay anything
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00530-00178825-00179122 Baxter has an entire chapter about his
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00531-00179123-00179499 christian directory railing against
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00532-00179500-00179758 unfair and exploitative business models
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00533-00179759-00179920 which he termed under the label
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00534-00179921-00180402 oppression okay so here he tweets
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00535-00180403-00180772 actually a pretty smart practitioner of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00536-00180773-00181060 business ethics these are the kinds of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00537-00181061-00181357 business models that he objects to well
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00538-00181358-00181633 he says first of all don't tread on your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00539-00181634-00181834 brethren as stepping stones of your own
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00540-00181835-00182166 advancement so he already recognized
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00541-00182167-00182514 that yeah that's a lot of what getting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00542-00182515-00182746 ahead involves in the seventeenth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00543-00182747-00183211 century as well as today do not injure
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00544-00183212-00183493 your inferiors who are unable to resist
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00545-00183494-00183709 it's a warning against exploiting your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00546-00183710-00184311 workforce he railed against monopolists
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00547-00184312-00184684 users hucksters people are just kind of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00548-00184685-00184851 selling stuff but isn't really worth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00549-00184852-00185149 while but you know hyping it up to get
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00550-00185150-00185332 people all excited about something that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00551-00185333-00185487 they're ultimately he disappointed with
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00552-00185488-00185841 it ends and it grocers he grocers are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00553-00185842-00185974 people who are trying to corner the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00554-00185975-00186324 market and then be able to raise prices
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00555-00186325-00187062 that way he argued against unfair
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00556-00187063-00187413 evictions of tenants most of the tenants
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00557-00187414-00187578 here were thinking about our peasant
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00558-00187579-00188112 farmers and so he argued that rents have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00559-00188113-00188327 to be set fairly so that they won't get
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00560-00188328-00188937 unfairly ejected he also argued that it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00561-00188938-00189174 was morally wrong to engage in price
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00562-00189175-00189469 discrimination against the poor and the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00563-00189470-00189774 desperate and indeed what follows him
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00564-00189775-00190150 exactly in this so just because
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00565-00190151-00190309 could take advantage of another's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00566-00190310-00190711 desperation doesn't give you any title
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00567-00190712-00191082 at all to raise the price on that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00568-00191083-00191332 that might be good advice to offer
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00569-00191333-00191886 Martin shkreli
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00570-00191887-00192286 and from all of this I want to argue
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00571-00192287-00192550 that we can observe I think some
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00572-00192551-00192853 fundamental contradictions in the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00573-00192854-00193291 ideology shareholder capitalism so if
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00574-00193292-00193486 you go back to my graph with that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00575-00193487-00193873 inflection point around 1972 it's right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00576-00193874-00194098 around that time that we see the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00577-00194099-00194331 ideology of shareholder capitalism
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00578-00194332-00194572 starting to gain strength and then it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00579-00194573-00194707 really bones in the eighties and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00580-00194708-00194992 afterwards this idea that right the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00581-00194993-00195187 purpose of the firm is to maximize
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00582-00195188-00195733 shareholder value okay but I think
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00583-00195734-00196042 actually that this harsh version of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00584-00196043-00196309 work ethic we rationalizes shareholder
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00585-00196310-00196669 capitalism really contains some internal
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00586-00196670-00196879 contradictions once we see that it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00587-00196880-00197784 coming out of her work ethic Adam Smith
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00588-00197785-00198301 argued in the wealth of nations that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00589-00198302-00198652 great volume of economics strongly
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00590-00198653-00198951 influenced by the progressive work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00591-00198952-00199243 the argue that you can't expect workers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00592-00199244-00199471 to work hard just for the sake of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00593-00199472-00199786 idle rich what incentive do they have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00594-00199787-00200068 it's absurd if you want them to work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00595-00200069-00200269 hard you should pay them higher wages
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00596-00200270-00200485 you also address this the manufacturers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00597-00200486-00200682 to complain about their lazy workers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00598-00200683-00200986 right if you're complaining that your
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00599-00200987-00201265 workers are lazy why don't you look at
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00600-00201266-00201508 the wages you're paying them you can
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00601-00201509-00201727 incentivize them to work harder if you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00602-00201728-00202054 pay them decent wages right whereas of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00603-00202055-00202276 course I'm a conservative harsh version
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00604-00202277-00202513 of the work ethic you justify the lousy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00605-00202514-00202708 wages you're paying your workers on the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00606-00202709-00202852 grounds that look they're not working
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00607-00202853-00202945 that hard so they don't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00608-00202946-00203263 deserve anything right and I'm saying
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00609-00203264-00203449 yeah this perverse logic you're not
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00610-00203450-00203722 understanding right people work for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00611-00203723-00204496 reward but you also can't expect hard
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00612-00204497-00204789 workers work from workers for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00613-00204790-00205059 capitalists who are busy by pursuing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00614-00205060-00205317 business models that under my other
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00615-00205319-00205630 people's welfare the workers at Sal's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00616-00205631-00206019 will feel demoralized from working on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00617-00206021-00206289 jobs as David Graeber has
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00618-00206290-00206732 recently complained showing that perhaps
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00619-00206733-00207087 as many as 40% of workers in rich
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00620-00207088-00207366 countries are working at jobs that are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00621-00207367-00207567 either pernicious or worthless or just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00622-00207569-00207754 slaking the vanity of super-rich
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00623-00207755-00208469 employers and we've seen time and again
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00624-00208471-00208791 that workers actually want me for work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00625-00208792-00208981 were meaningful means it's actually
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00626-00208982-00209307 helping people and not just piling up
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00627-00209308-00209586 more and more profits for shareholders
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00628-00209587-00209883 so we see recently that Amazon workers
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00629-00209884-00210494 walked out of Amazon to protest Amazon's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00630-00210496-00210748 perverse engagement and helping the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00631-00210748-00211251 fossil fuel industry burn down the earth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00632-00211252-00211837 we also observe that people are willing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00633-00211838-00212131 to work at nonprofits who are doing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00634-00212132-00212358 super meaningful stuff it's really
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00635-00212359-00212559 helping people have vastly lower wages
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00636-00212560-00212781 than they could get in the private
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00637-00212782-00213342 sector look at say law schools fighting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00638-00213344-00213598 lawyers are desperate to get into you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00639-00213598-00213829 know working for the ACLU promoting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00640-00213830-00214006 human rights in this tech stock and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00641-00214007-00214240 they're willing to take baths pay cuts
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00642-00214241-00214471 relative to corporate law in order to do
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00643-00214471-00214648 this not for any leg
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00644-00214648-00214810 talents in fact opposites the most
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00645-00214811-00215169 talented lot school students who aspire
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00646-00215171-00215466 to some of these public service
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00647-00215467-00215958 nonprofit jobs this is more meaningful
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00648-00215959-00216244 so let's think about various business
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00649-00216244-00216546 models today where you have capitalists
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00650-00216548-00216796 who are really busy but promoting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00651-00216796-00216988 business models that undermine other
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00652-00216989-00217488 people's welfare near wealth extraction
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00653-00217489-00217837 think about vulture capital private
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00654-00217838-00218173 equity where the project is to jump in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00655-00218173-00218482 there take over a firm maybe you put
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00656-00218483-00218794 down 20% to the value huge leveraged
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00657-00218794-00219037 buyout 90 sidled your firm with gigantic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00658-00219038-00219463 debts but in the mean time you get to do
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00659-00219464-00219823 things like exploit the brand name so to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00660-00219823-00220006 service your debts you have to radically
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00661-00220007-00220405 cut workers wages and you also cut the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00662-00220406-00220748 the quality of inputs to your goods and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00663-00220750-00221131 give lousy or service but but you're
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00664-00221132-00221314 you're kind of riding off the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00665-00221315-00221571 accumulated goodwill of what the firm
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00666-00221573-00221760 was before hands and you can fool people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00667-00221761-00222009 for a really long time before they
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00668-00222010-00222334 realize that this this company isn't as
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00669-00222335-00222589 hot as it was then you take out a second
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00670-00222590-00222808 loan for maybe 300 million dollars in a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00671-00222809-00223015 word yourself for your genius and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00672-00223016-00223255 they're brilliant management and by the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00673-00223256-00223528 end of it you know maybe you've
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00674-00223529-00223846 extracted 40 percent of the value of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00675-00223846-00224200 firm at the moment of its collapse which
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00676-00224201-00224419 sends thousands of workers into
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00677-00224419-00224617 unemployment and might even devastate
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00678-00224617-00224857 entire communities that you had it if
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00679-00224858-00225328 this was a factory town and okay so now
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00680-00225329-00225550 the workers are you know addicted to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00681-00225551-00225877 opioids but you you come out with a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00682-00225878-00226207 hundred percent profit what is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00683-00226208-00226417 successful model
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00684-00226419-00226739 or you can exploit the vulnerable with
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00685-00226740-00227092 things like surprise medical bills where
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00686-00227092-00227317 somebody might even do all the research
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00687-00227319-00227665 and find that their hospital is covered
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00688-00227666-00228113 by their insurance and they are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00689-00228114-00228430 scheduled for surgery but the surgeon
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00690-00228431-00228735 secretly invites some out-of-network
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00691-00228736-00229271 surgeon just do a few stitches closing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00692-00229271-00229562 the incision at the end of surgery then
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00693-00229563-00229817 he bills you from $60,000 out of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00694-00229817-00230066 blue suddenly now you're stuck with
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00695-00230067-00230351 overwhelming debt with no way to get out
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00696-00230352-00230548 of it and no advance notice and no
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00697-00230548-00230848 opportunity to avoid it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00698-00230848-00231155 various predatory credit schemes Baxter
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00699-00231156-00231539 railed against those the kind of things
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00700-00231540-00232148 that are designed to basically make it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00701-00232148-00232348 impossible for people ever to pay off
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00702-00232350-00232628 the loan maybe get sink deeper and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00703-00232629-00232864 deeper
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00704-00232865-00233134 we're not profiting by misleading people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00705-00233135-00233458 we have multi-level marketing scams
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00706-00233459-00233758 selling people on the Fox dream that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00707-00233759-00234254 they could become rich employment for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00708-00234255-00234634 profits and schools have abounded Betsy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00709-00234635-00234919 the boss now wants to revive them the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00710-00234921-00235379 changes in her roles that were set by
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00711-00235380-00235769 Obama to prevent these scam schools from
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00712-00235769-00235942 getting access to federally backed
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00713-00235944-00236215 student loans
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00714-00236216-00236444 what about shifting risks to the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00715-00236444-00236903 vulnerable many firms have bankrupted
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00716-00236904-00237254 their pension plans and just taught us
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00717-00237255-00237515 workers onto their own devices
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00718-00237516-00237769 now each of us is expected to run our
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00719-00237771-00238171 own 401k program do our own investment
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00720-00238173-00238373 choices even though most of us none of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00721-00238373-00238705 the slightest idea what to do and even
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00722-00238706-00239189 though financial for services firms do
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00723-00239190-00239337 their very best
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00724-00239338-00239823 hi the the charges that they're putting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00725-00239823-00240186 on your fund or what about just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00726-00240187-00240360 undermining future generations you can
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00727-00240361-00240623 make huge profits now on the fossil fuel
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00728-00240625-00240998 industry even though that dooms future
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00729-00241000-00241673 generations or maybe you can make tons
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00730-00241675-00241857 of money by spreading hatred and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00731-00241858-00242063 propaganda undermining democracy
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00732-00242064-00242388 promoting genocide and the I mark all of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00733-00242389-00242692 these are like really effective ways to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00734-00242694-00243294 make a lot of profits by undermining the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00735-00243294-00244002 welfare of other people what I want to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00736-00244003-00244271 suggest here is that there is no
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00737-00244273-00244641 coherent morally coherent conservative
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00738-00244642-00244977 version of the work ethic where all the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00739-00244978-00245223 benefits accrue to capitalist even if
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00740-00245223-00245666 the catalysts are very busy and working
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00741-00245667-00246296 364 days a year the supposition that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00742-00246296-00246504 just because you're making a lot of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00743-00246505-00246773 money must be my supply that you're
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00744-00246775-00246989 actually producing a lot of wealth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00745-00246990-00247479 it's mistaken and from the perspective
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00746-00247480-00247800 of the original work ethic nothing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00747-00247801-00248130 counts as work unless it's helping other
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00748-00248131-00248873 people besides yourself
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00749-00248873-00249312 and that is a critical moment that we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00750-00249313-00249992 had to confront today if we look at the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00751-00249994-00250464 policies underlying contemporary sharing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00752-00250465-00250760 their wealth maximization we have an
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00753-00250761-00251071 agenda of massive deregulation for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00754-00251073-00251417 instance of the financial industry which
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00755-00251419-00251715 basically is freeing up banks now to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00756-00251716-00251969 gamble and speculate make profits for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00757-00251971-00252150 gambling and speculating on derivatives
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00758-00252151-00252292 and so forth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00759-00252294-00252594 this increases the financial instability
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00760-00252594-00252896 of the entire system and we know it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00761-00252898-00253158 happened in 2008 the last time we tried
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00762-00253159-00253790 this we choose that the bankers came out
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00763-00253791-00254166 pretty fine then it really lose up a lot
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00764-00254167-00254454 they got bailed out but nevertheless
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00765-00254455-00254631 hundreds of thousands perhaps millions
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00766-00254632-00255119 of completely innocent homeowners got
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00767-00255121-00255423 wiped out I'm not talking about people
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00768-00255423-00255873 who never really qualified genuinely
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00769-00255873-00256121 qualified for a homeowner loan I'm
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00770-00256123-00256398 talking about all of their neighbors who
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00771-00256398-00256592 really were honestly paying off their
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00772-00256594-00256773 mortgages who got devastated by the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00773-00256773-00256934 subsequent recession which threw them
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00774-00256935-00257246 out of work and quit them underwater on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00775-00257248-00257481 their mortgages those people didn't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00776-00257482-00257700 deserve that treatment they were working
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00777-00257701-00258057 hard and playing by the rules the whole
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00778-00258058-00258402 philosophy of deregulation that we see
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00779-00258403-00258678 today especially in the financial sector
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00780-00258679-00259085 but not only there is designed to let
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00781-00259086-00259284 people make a lot of money off with
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00782-00259285-00259517 speculation in gambling where the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00783-00259519-00259758 fundamental risks of that worthless
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00784-00259759-00260328 activity are shifted on some people none
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00785-00260329-00260565 of this can possibly be rationalized by
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00786-00260566-00261207 the work ethic unless we confuse merely
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00788-00266227-00266463 really great point I think you read the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00789-00266464-00266870 original Puritans
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00790-00266871-00267485 they thought they did think that money
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00791-00267486-00267765 might be a sign of God's favor but you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00792-00267766-00267935 do have to look into the details to see
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00793-00267936-00268794 how people made Richardson in the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00794-00268795-00269208 formerly attachment boss just worry
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00795-00269209-00269466 about trade unions in the 20th century
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00796-00269467-00269706 any comments me there was a period of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00797-00269707-00270035 time where they're quite strong in order
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00798-00270036-00270462 to kind of balance
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00799-00270463-00271076 hear us yes correct what's lost them
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00800-00271077-00271752 well American businesses ran a concerted
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00801-00271753-00272070 effort to undermine labor unions and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00802-00272071-00272259 their spits essential weakening of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00803-00272260-00272520 enforcement of labor law recent report
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00804-00272521-00272709 out from the anomic policy and state
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00805-00272710-00272961 finds that 40 percent of attempts to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00806-00272962-00273249 organize American workplaces today are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00807-00273250-00273573 undermined by pretty flagrant violations
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00808-00273574-00273954 of labor law it's really and also the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00809-00273955-00274383 whole American labor union model isn't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00810-00274384-00274653 really suited to contemporary times it
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00811-00274654-00274824 was much easier to unionize when you had
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00812-00274825-00275019 these giant factories like jam with
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00813-00275020-00275184 thousands of thousands of workers but
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00814-00275185-00275463 now you know it's the typical neck nut
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00815-00275464-00275853 you know you have to organize unit by
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00816-00275854-00276294 unit so like Walmart is vast but like
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00817-00276295-00276594 each each young it has to just be for
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00818-00276595-00276882 that store and friend and maybe even
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00819-00276883-00277098 just a subsection of that store like the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00820-00277099-00277200 food department
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00821-00277201-00277719 and so with fragmentation of the unit of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00822-00277720-00278198 bargaining it gets impossibly costly to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00823-00278199-00278469 organize so I don't think actually
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00824-00278470-00278778 contemporary labor law is well suited to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00825-00278779-00279024 help out workers especially when it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00826-00279025-00279524 not really even being enforced
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00827-00279525-00279927 David Cernik God for it's good um how
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00828-00279928-00280332 does how do you place globalism global
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00829-00280333-00280568 trade within this kind of bloody
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00830-00280569-00280998 theoretical context ie you know one
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00831-00280999-00281357 could argue that global capitalism has
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00832-00281358-00281538 pulled a lot of people out of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00833-00281539-00281775 poverty across the world how do you kind
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00834-00281776-00282228 of apply that idea to that currency
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00835-00282229-00282676 yeah look I think mobile trade has been
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00836-00282677-00282985 a very powerful source of poverty
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00837-00282986-00283198 reduction in developing countries
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00838-00283199-00283579 notably China and to a substantial
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00839-00283580-00283841 degree also in some other parts of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00840-00283842-00284079 world too but those are the two big ones
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00841-00284080-00284329 so none of this is an argument against
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00842-00284330-00284768 trade trade is trained is incredibly
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00843-00284769-00285202 valuable you know there are gains there
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00844-00285203-00285421 are gains of training but we also have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00845-00285422-00285569 to recognize and I think this is
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00846-00285570-00285791 consistent with the ethos of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00847-00285792-00286057 progressive work ethic that we also have
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00848-00286058-00286402 to recognize the people who lose from
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00849-00286403-00286879 globalization and help them out you know
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00850-00286880-00287071 other countries have managed the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00851-00287072-00287240 globalization of trade much more
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00852-00287241-00287458 effectively by offering for instance
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00853-00287459-00287653 comprehensive and continuous worker
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00854-00287654-00287872 retraining over the courses of their
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00855-00287873-00288060 lives without them having to shell out
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00856-00288061-00288310 you know they're our last remaining
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00857-00288311-00288658 dimes for that there are things we could
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00858-00288659-00289099 do to help out people who lose jobs on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00859-00289100-00289426 account of trade with you do you think
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00860-00289427-00289770 that you know just when this kind of the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00861-00289771-00289993 Puritan work ethic was coming from this
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00862-00289994-00290208 the idea of their neighbor has changed
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00863-00290209-00290521 like at the time your neighbor was the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00864-00290522-00290653 person down the street you couldn't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00865-00290654-00290908 weren't really thinking about someone in
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00866-00290909-00291172 China because that right yeah I mean
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00867-00291173-00291416 they may have a concept of global
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00868-00291417-00291631 economy is like a comprehensive system
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00869-00291632-00291938 the way we have today yes
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00870-00291939-00292135 Yeah right so we do have to expand our
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00871-00292136-00292324 notion of who our neighbor is not just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00872-00292325-00292510 for thinking about globalized trade but
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00873-00292511-00292734 also the globalized effects of fossil
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00874-00292735-00292945 fuel-burning right it's affecting
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00875-00292946-00294170 everybody
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00876-00294171-00295145 yes now when I'm saying that is that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00877-00295146-00295521 although from an from Anna storable from
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00878-00295522-00295752 surf history of ideas point of view you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00879-00295753-00296003 can see a certain conservative version
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00880-00296004-00296222 of the work ethic being derived from
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00881-00296223-00296834 these 17th century premises it doesn't
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00882-00296835-00297185 really make sense right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00883-00297186-00299256 yeah because you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00884-00299257-00301271 [Music]
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00885-00301272-00301605 oh right right right right so yeah I
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00886-00301606-00301866 mean we had from the periods point of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00887-00301867-00302076 view a hard work meant disciplined work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00888-00302077-00302351 that is you have focused attention
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00889-00302352-00302781 attention on the tasks before you and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00890-00302782-00303003 you're trying to do as good a job as you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00891-00303004-00303279 can on those tasks whatever they might
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00892-00303280-00303783 be and you're not wasting time
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00893-00303784-00304266 now there's another notion of hard work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00894-00304267-00304532 that I think this is picked up by
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00895-00304533-00304812 advocates of the progressive work ethic
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00896-00304813-00304959 where hard work means something like
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00897-00304960-00305349 drinking right right where it's it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00898-00305350-00305640 it's onerous making its dirty work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00899-00305641-00306024 make it requires heavy or risky manual
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00900-00306025-00306260 labor
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00901-00306261-00306713 maybe it's saying at a very rapid pace
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00902-00306714-00307101 and so from that perspective
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00903-00307102-00307467 a lawyer who takes his clients out for a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00904-00307468-00307707 two-hour lunch over three martinis it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00905-00307708-00308163 definitely networking party right but of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00906-00308164-00308364 course any part of that just reflects
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00907-00308365-00308871 but but the class divisions where the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00908-00308872-00309042 people at the top get to design their
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00909-00309043-00309447 work conditions it can make them really
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00910-00309448-00309612 nice but but the parents perspective
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00911-00309613-00309786 really what's really a matter of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00912-00309787-00310005 discipline focus attention on the tasks
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00913-00310006-00312320 at hand and he wants
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00914-00312321-00312570 yeah you know it'd be really great if we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00915-00312571-00312783 did have alternative measures that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00916-00312784-00312987 built-in some of the some of these other
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00917-00312988-00313385 aspects the features of work yeah I
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00918-00313386-00313638 would love to see such measures so we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00919-00313639-00313806 didn't have something surveying so you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00920-00313807-00314069 know about whether workers themselves
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00921-00314070-00314340 think that their work is meaningful and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00922-00314341-00314534 that's the theme of David graders
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00923-00314535-00314817 jobs right it's like do you
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00924-00314818-00315006 actually think that we didn't go to work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00925-00315007-00315207 and you're doing your work as prescribed
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00926-00315208-00315390 that you're actually like doing anything
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00927-00315391-00315726 meaningful like helping people right a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00928-00315727-00315882 lot of people think now this is like
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00929-00315883-00316212 there's no pointless work or maybe just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00930-00316213-00316374 work that's legging the vanity of their
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00931-00316375-00316566 boss it's like really it's not doing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00932-00316567-00316839 anything good right so maybe we should
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00933-00316840-00317115 have more more nuanced servings of that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00934-00317116-00318608 sort I think we probably should
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00935-00318609-00319395 bootstrap tracing cognition that one
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00936-00319396-00319884 time early one is Street was dead and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00937-00319885-00320187 then it slowly we're gonna burn teeth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00938-00320188-00320418 and I'm just wondering if give a view on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00939-00320419-00320670 whether that is something that came out
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00940-00320671-00320796 of the Protestant where it got thicker
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00941-00320797-00321270 though is like well I mean this gets
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00942-00321271-00321426 back to the question of whether wealth
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00943-00321427-00321750 is a sign of God's blessings right right
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00944-00321751-00322119 you know from a certain perspective it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00945-00322120-00322439 not crazy to think that if you that that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00946-00322440-00322812 that focused and this
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00947-00322813-00323124 attention to the tasks before you it's
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00948-00323125-00323580 liable to bring more wealth more money
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00949-00323581-00323781 than people who are just kind of
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00950-00323782-00323976 slacking off and not really paying too
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00951-00323977-00324344 close attention to the tasks at work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00952-00324345-00324677 that's it it's a reasonable assumption
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00953-00324678-00324948 but we just have to add to that some
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00954-00324949-00325116 attention to what those tasks are
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00955-00325117-00325410 actually doing what are their effects on
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00956-00325411-00326204 the world okay
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00957-00326205-00326451 given that this has become such a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00958-00326452-00326928 secularized doctrine do you think that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00959-00326929-00327423 there there's anything that can persuade
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00960-00327424-00327749 the people in control of capital to
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00961-00327750-00327972 recognize these inherent contradictions
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00962-00327973-00328506 or must they be forced by political and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00963-00328507-00329223 legal changes to to redress these Sarah
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00964-00329224-00329514 dress the situation yeah so I think we
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00965-00329515-00329994 need a multi-pronged strategy here so
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00966-00329995-00330258 definitely I think some form of counter
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00967-00330259-00330477 veiling multiple forms of countervailing
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00968-00330478-00330819 power or made counteracts just the
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00969-00330820-00331071 operation of sheer greed but it's also
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00970-00331072-00331233 the case that something can be done
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00971-00331234-00331515 about the economy of a scheme especially
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00972-00331516-00331755 in the United States but elsewhere why
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00973-00331756-00332127 should people why did you eat my kids
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00974-00332128-00332660 they were rich I think maybe she
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00975-00332661-00333023 asking hard questions about their what
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00976-00333024-00333284 if there have been previous eras but
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00977-00333285-00333449 even in my lifetime you know I'm just
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00979-00340404-00340797 saying is that the conservative work
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00980-00340798-00341021 ethic as we know it today
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00981-00341022-00341453 utterly lacks a coherent moral
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00982-00341454-00341796 foundation why should we break the rules
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00983-00341797-00342227 of Finance so that mountains of activity
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00984-00342228-00342632 is dedicated to risky speculation that
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00985-00342633-00342891 vastly enriches people who haven't added
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00986-00342892-00343160 any value and then periodically sends
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00987-00343161-00343453 millions of people into unemployment and
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00988-00343454-00343596 devastation
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00989-00343597-00344033 I can't imagine an argument that says
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00990-00344034-00344466 that's a good idea what would that look
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00991-00344467-00344810 like you know I think it's so people say
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00992-00344811-00345242 oh it's you know freedom
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00993-00345243-00345695 you know freedom for son becomes a
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00994-00345696-00345929 massive cost of others where the freedom
2bHCo-qW4Gy-00996-00353403-00353796 Thank You Carter
2bJmPj791uQ-00000-00000048-00000416 the biologics Control Act of 1902 also
2bJmPj791uQ-00001-00000417-00000619 known as the virus toxin law was the
2bJmPj791uQ-00002-00000620-00000788 first law that implemented federal
2bJmPj791uQ-00003-00000789-00001024 regulations of biological products such
2bJmPj791uQ-00004-00001025-00001312 as vaccines in the United States it was
2bJmPj791uQ-00005-00001313-00001519 enacted in response to two incidents
2bJmPj791uQ-00006-00001520-00001736 involving the deaths of 22 children who
2bJmPj791uQ-00007-00001737-00001948 had contracted tetanus from contaminated
2bJmPj791uQ-00008-00001950-00002207 vaccines this law paved the way for
2bJmPj791uQ-00009-00002208-00002417 further regulation of drug products
2bJmPj791uQ-00010-00002418-00002660 under the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906
2bJmPj791uQ-00011-00002661-00002861 in the Federal Food Drug and Cosmetic
2bJmPj791uQ-00012-00002862-00003299 Act of 1938 biologics control is now
2bJmPj791uQ-00013-00003300-00003521 under the supervision of the US Food and
2bJmPj791uQ-00014-00003522-00003861 Drug Administration FDA
2bJmPj791uQ-00015-00003863-00004224 you
2bJmPj791uQ-00016-00004225-00004569 topic history
2bJmPj791uQ-00017-00004570-00004733 you
2bJmPj791uQ-00018-00004734-00004937 when the large-scale production of
2bJmPj791uQ-00019-00004938-00005150 vaccines began in the late 19th century
2bJmPj791uQ-00020-00005151-00005387 the United States had no government
2bJmPj791uQ-00021-00005388-00005653 regulations on biological products in
2bJmPj791uQ-00022-00005654-00005951 1901 a five-year-old girl died of
2bJmPj791uQ-00023-00005952-00006158 tetanus in st. Louis Missouri after
2bJmPj791uQ-00024-00006159-00006439 being given a diphtheria antitoxin
2bJmPj791uQ-00025-00006440-00006662 investigations found that the st. Louis
2bJmPj791uQ-00026-00006663-00006797 Board of Health produced the
2bJmPj791uQ-00027-00006798-00007009 contaminated vaccine using the blood of
2bJmPj791uQ-00028-00007011-00007277 a horse infected with tetanus while the
2bJmPj791uQ-00029-00007278-00007514 infected horse Jim was killed the Board
2bJmPj791uQ-00030-00007515-00007691 of Health continued to use the serum to
2bJmPj791uQ-00031-00007692-00007952 treat diphtheria it was later discovered
2bJmPj791uQ-00032-00007953-00008173 that 12 other children had died from the
2bJmPj791uQ-00033-00008175-00008450 same contaminated vaccines in st. Louis
2bJmPj791uQ-00034-00008451-00008732 that same year nine children in Camden
2bJmPj791uQ-00035-00008733-00008921 New Jersey died from contaminated
2bJmPj791uQ-00036-00008922-00009221 smallpox vaccines these incidents led
2bJmPj791uQ-00037-00009222-00009431 the hygienic laboratory and the Medical
2bJmPj791uQ-00038-00009432-00009623 Society of the District of Columbia to
2bJmPj791uQ-00039-00009624-00009806 propose a law regulating the production
2bJmPj791uQ-00040-00009807-00010223 of biological products on July 1st 1902
2bJmPj791uQ-00041-00010224-00010484 Congress passed the biologics Control
2bJmPj791uQ-00042-00010485-00010664 Act
2bJmPj791uQ-00043-00010665-00011028 you
2bJmPj791uQ-00044-00011029-00011592 topic contents of the act
2bJmPj791uQ-00045-00011593-00011871 the biologics Control Act established a
2bJmPj791uQ-00046-00011872-00012076 board to oversee the implementation of
2bJmPj791uQ-00047-00012077-00012378 regulations of biological products the
2bJmPj791uQ-00048-00012379-00012585 board consisted of the Surgeon General
2bJmPj791uQ-00049-00012586-00012771 of the army the Surgeon General of the
2bJmPj791uQ-00050-00012772-00012966 Navy and the Surgeon General of the
2bJmPj791uQ-00051-00012967-00013153 marine hospital service and was to be
2bJmPj791uQ-00052-00013154-00013321 overseen by the Secretary of the
2bJmPj791uQ-00053-00013322-00013594 Treasury this board was given the power
2bJmPj791uQ-00054-00013594-00013858 to issue suspend and revoke licenses to
2bJmPj791uQ-00055-00013859-00014166 produce and sell biological products the
2bJmPj791uQ-00056-00014168-00014428 biologics Control Act also mandated that
2bJmPj791uQ-00057-00014429-00014622 all products be labeled accurately with
2bJmPj791uQ-00058-00014623-00014794 the name of the product and the address
2bJmPj791uQ-00059-00014794-00015060 and license number of the manufacturer
2bJmPj791uQ-00060-00015061-00015258 Laboratories could be subjected to
2bJmPj791uQ-00061-00015259-00015460 unannounced inspections by the Treasury
2bJmPj791uQ-00062-00015461-00015661 Department the punishment for the
2bJmPj791uQ-00063-00015662-00015861 violation of this law was a fine of up
2bJmPj791uQ-00064-00015862-00016266 to $500 or up to a year in prison
2bJmPj791uQ-00065-00016268-00016626 you
2bJmPj791uQ-00066-00016627-00017182 topic institutions
2bJmPj791uQ-00067-00017183-00017419 the laboratory of hygiene of the marine
2bJmPj791uQ-00068-00017420-00017635 Health Service established on Staten
2bJmPj791uQ-00069-00017636-00017956 Island NY in 1887 was in charge of
2bJmPj791uQ-00070-00017957-00018175 testing biologics before the biologics
2bJmPj791uQ-00071-00018176-00018487 Control Act it was moved to Washington
2bJmPj791uQ-00072-00018488-00018784 DC in 1891 and renamed the hygienic
2bJmPj791uQ-00073-00018785-00018964 laboratory of the public health and
2bJmPj791uQ-00074-00018965-00019248 marine hospital service in 1902 the
2bJmPj791uQ-00075-00019249-00019522 hygienic laboratory was responsible for
2bJmPj791uQ-00076-00019523-00019735 renewing licenses annually testing
2bJmPj791uQ-00077-00019736-00020001 products and performing inspections in
2bJmPj791uQ-00078-00020002-00020293 1930 the Ransdell act transformed the
2bJmPj791uQ-00079-00020294-00020497 hygienic laboratory into the National
2bJmPj791uQ-00080-00020498-00020701 Institute of Health and gave it a larger
2bJmPj791uQ-00081-00020702-00021034 role in public health research in 1948
2bJmPj791uQ-00082-00021035-00021211 the name was changed again to the
2bJmPj791uQ-00083-00021212-00021397 National Institutes of Health as it
2bJmPj791uQ-00084-00021398-00021592 encompassed many institutes and centers
2bJmPj791uQ-00085-00021593-00022003 dedicated to biomedical research in 1972
2bJmPj791uQ-00086-00022004-00022240 biologics regulation was moved to the
2bJmPj791uQ-00087-00022241-00022438 Food and Drug Administration and later
2bJmPj791uQ-00088-00022439-00022609 became known as the Center for biologics
2bJmPj791uQ-00089-00022610-00023054 Evaluation and Research cber
2bJmPj791uQ-00090-00023055-00023412 you
2bJmPj791uQ-00091-00023413-00023924 topic impact
2bJmPj791uQ-00092-00023925-00024158 the biologics Control Act set a
2bJmPj791uQ-00093-00024159-00024356 precedent for the federal regulation of
2bJmPj791uQ-00094-00024357-00024581 biologics such as vaccines and blood
2bJmPj791uQ-00095-00024582-00024826 components with the development of
2bJmPj791uQ-00096-00024827-00025091 biotechnology the FDA's Center for
2bJmPj791uQ-00097-00025092-00025295 biologics Evaluation and Research
2bJmPj791uQ-00098-00025296-00025568 cber has taken a larger role in
2bJmPj791uQ-00099-00025569-00025783 reviewing and approving new biological
2bJmPj791uQ-00100-00025785-00025988 products intended for medical purposes
2bJmPj791uQ-00101-00025989-00026197 including probiotics xenotransplantation
2bJmPj791uQ-00102-00026198-00026522 and gene therapy
2hqfp4o2aU0-00000-00005778-00006103 real time
2mYqtlh1YMI-00000-00000011-00000350 the red-green alliance Danish and heads
2mYqtlh1YMI-00001-00000351-00000668 listen deraad drawn literally unity list
2mYqtlh1YMI-00002-00000669-00001075 the red greens abbreviated en HL o is an
2mYqtlh1YMI-00003-00001076-00001361 eco socialist political party in Denmark
2mYqtlh1YMI-00004-00001362-00001664 it is the farthest left party in the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00005-00001664-00001880 Danish Parliament advocating for
2mYqtlh1YMI-00006-00001880-00002117 socialist democracy in Denmark and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00007-00002118-00002746 internationally
2mYqtlh1YMI-00008-00002747-00003274 topic history
2mYqtlh1YMI-00009-00003275-00003529 the red-green alliance was formed in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00010-00003530-00003847 1989 the party's objective as
2mYqtlh1YMI-00011-00003848-00004076 fundamental changes in the property
2mYqtlh1YMI-00012-00004077-00004217 rights to the means of production
2mYqtlh1YMI-00013-00004218-00004439 towards the domination of more
2mYqtlh1YMI-00014-00004440-00004703 collective based property rights as well
2mYqtlh1YMI-00015-00004704-00004904 as to establish a socialist economy
2mYqtlh1YMI-00016-00004905-00005157 based on the principles of democratic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00017-00005158-00005647 socialism solidarity and ecology it is
2mYqtlh1YMI-00018-00005648-00005861 the only party in the Fulco ting that
2mYqtlh1YMI-00019-00005862-00006547 has a collective leadership
2mYqtlh1YMI-00020-00006548-00007278 topic political and ideological position
2mYqtlh1YMI-00021-00007279-00007519 the party describes itself as a
2mYqtlh1YMI-00022-00007520-00007756 socialist and democratic grassroots
2mYqtlh1YMI-00023-00007756-00007974 party which claims also to represent
2mYqtlh1YMI-00024-00007975-00008241 green politics peace movement
2mYqtlh1YMI-00025-00008242-00008463 anti-discrimination and trade union
2mYqtlh1YMI-00026-00008464-00008799 movement the party's ideological
2mYqtlh1YMI-00027-00008800-00009042 position is set out in a manifesto from
2mYqtlh1YMI-00028-00009043-00009424 2014 it proposes that a socialistic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00029-00009425-00009705 Society of the future neither can nor
2mYqtlh1YMI-00030-00009706-00010009 should be described in detail but rather
2mYqtlh1YMI-00031-00010010-00010260 be developed and shaped by the people
2mYqtlh1YMI-00032-00010261-00010428 living in it
2mYqtlh1YMI-00033-00010429-00010795 it describes socialism as an answer to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00034-00010796-00011098 the problems caused by capitalism such
2mYqtlh1YMI-00035-00011099-00011414 as non-sufficient democracy crises
2mYqtlh1YMI-00036-00011415-00011791 destruction of nature inequality racism
2mYqtlh1YMI-00037-00011792-00012166 and war about the economic system it
2mYqtlh1YMI-00038-00012167-00012328 says
2mYqtlh1YMI-00039-00012329-00012644 a new and actually democratic system of
2mYqtlh1YMI-00040-00012645-00012961 society requires fundamental changes in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00041-00012962-00013169 the ownership of the means of production
2mYqtlh1YMI-00042-00013169-00013461 such as companies land and natural
2mYqtlh1YMI-00043-00013462-00013868 resources collective forms of ownership
2mYqtlh1YMI-00044-00013869-00014138 will be dominating we propose that
2mYqtlh1YMI-00045-00014138-00014461 public authorities co-workers local
2mYqtlh1YMI-00046-00014462-00014693 communities and other collectives of
2mYqtlh1YMI-00047-00014694-00014930 persons should own and run institutions
2mYqtlh1YMI-00048-00014931-00015286 and companies
2mYqtlh1YMI-00049-00015287-00015652 a democratic economy means a democratic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00050-00015653-00015961 work-life as well the workplace should
2mYqtlh1YMI-00051-00015962-00016249 be characterized by democracy and the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00052-00016250-00016516 employees must have a constitutional
2mYqtlh1YMI-00053-00016517-00016758 right to decisive influence on the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00054-00016759-00017061 organization of work in the workplace
2mYqtlh1YMI-00055-00017062-00017386 the methods advocated for achieving this
2mYqtlh1YMI-00056-00017387-00017611 may be different depending on the course
2mYqtlh1YMI-00057-00017612-00017842 of class struggle but will eventually
2mYqtlh1YMI-00058-00017843-00018078 require a revolution one that must be
2mYqtlh1YMI-00059-00018079-00018268 supported by a majority of the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00060-00018269-00018565 population manifested through democratic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00061-00018566-00018778 and free elections the party often
2mYqtlh1YMI-00062-00018779-00019044 adopts particular views in relation to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00063-00019045-00019264 the other parties in the full getting an
2mYqtlh1YMI-00064-00019265-00019444 opt-out of many of the settlements
2mYqtlh1YMI-00065-00019445-00019683 reached seen as an expression of class
2mYqtlh1YMI-00066-00019684-00020011 collaboration until the conditions for
2mYqtlh1YMI-00067-00020012-00020247 the party's long term goal are presented
2mYqtlh1YMI-00068-00020248-00020494 however the party will use its seats in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00069-00020495-00020713 Parliament to vote for any improvement
2mYqtlh1YMI-00070-00020714-00020968 and against any deterioration of working
2mYqtlh1YMI-00071-00020969-00021292 class people's lives in line with this
2mYqtlh1YMI-00072-00021293-00021511 the party agreed at its National
2mYqtlh1YMI-00073-00021512-00021747 Conference in 2010 that if Haila
2mYqtlh1YMI-00074-00021748-00021928 thorning-schmidt became prime minister
2mYqtlh1YMI-00075-00021929-00022267 after the 2011 election the party would
2mYqtlh1YMI-00076-00022268-00022594 vote for a red budget bill that did not
2mYqtlh1YMI-00077-00022595-00023258 contain obvious flaws
2mYqtlh1YMI-00078-00023259-00023820 topic policies
2mYqtlh1YMI-00079-00023821-00024155 you
2mYqtlh1YMI-00080-00024156-00024739 topic social policy
2mYqtlh1YMI-00081-00024740-00025018 the party places great emphasis on the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00082-00025019-00025258 fight against social inequality and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00083-00025259-00025516 poverty and is in favor of strengthening
2mYqtlh1YMI-00084-00025517-00025752 and expanding the welfare state the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00085-00025752-00026070 party believes there is place in society
2mYqtlh1YMI-00086-00026072-00026317 for all forms of diversity including
2mYqtlh1YMI-00087-00026318-00026643 gender sexuality disability and ethnic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00088-00026644-00026964 background it also advocates for a
2mYqtlh1YMI-00089-00026966-00027195 larger public sector among other things
2mYqtlh1YMI-00090-00027197-00027489 to improve quality of life for public
2mYqtlh1YMI-00091-00027491-00027712 sector employees the party believes
2mYqtlh1YMI-00092-00027713-00027918 people should be free to choose when
2mYqtlh1YMI-00093-00027919-00028114 they want to get an education and as
2mYqtlh1YMI-00094-00028114-00028339 opposed to tuition fees which they
2mYqtlh1YMI-00095-00028339-00028570 believe harm opportunities for everyone
2mYqtlh1YMI-00096-00028570-00028902 to acquire an education the party does
2mYqtlh1YMI-00097-00028903-00029133 not see unemployment as being equal to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00098-00029135-00029404 laziness and seeks to abolish the danish
2mYqtlh1YMI-00099-00029405-00030051 equivalent of work fare
2mYqtlh1YMI-00100-00030052-00030649 topic economic policy
2mYqtlh1YMI-00101-00030650-00030964 the party is decisively anti-capitalist
2mYqtlh1YMI-00102-00030964-00031168 and has particularly distinguished
2mYqtlh1YMI-00103-00031169-00031387 itself as an opponent of transfer
2mYqtlh1YMI-00104-00031388-00031663 pricing whereby multinational companies
2mYqtlh1YMI-00105-00031664-00031906 minimize the amount they pay in tax by
2mYqtlh1YMI-00106-00031907-00032122 attributing their profits to countries
2mYqtlh1YMI-00107-00032123-00032476 with lower tax rates according to the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00108-00032477-00032752 party the global economic crisis should
2mYqtlh1YMI-00109-00032752-00032965 be resolved through the stricter control
2mYqtlh1YMI-00110-00032966-00033214 of loans the introduction of a Tobin tax
2mYqtlh1YMI-00111-00033215-00033490 and the nationalization of the banks and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00112-00033491-00033796 mortgage companies it says the public
2mYqtlh1YMI-00113-00033797-00034069 sector must be expanded the wages of the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00114-00034070-00034318 lowest paid workers should be raised and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00115-00034319-00034573 the insurance based unemployment benefit
2mYqtlh1YMI-00116-00034574-00034801 period should be extended to a minimum
2mYqtlh1YMI-00117-00034802-00035158 of four years at the same time students
2mYqtlh1YMI-00118-00035159-00035323 should be given a greater state
2mYqtlh1YMI-00119-00035324-00035698 education grant at minimum all benefits
2mYqtlh1YMI-00120-00035699-00036034 should be raised to 13,500 kroner per
2mYqtlh1YMI-00121-00036035-00036693 month before taxes
2mYqtlh1YMI-00122-00036694-00037262 topic foreign policy
2mYqtlh1YMI-00123-00037263-00037496 the party advocates for foreign policy
2mYqtlh1YMI-00124-00037497-00037820 based on respect for human rights which
2mYqtlh1YMI-00125-00037821-00038033 it believes has not been appropriately
2mYqtlh1YMI-00126-00038034-00038411 prioritized in the past it also proposes
2mYqtlh1YMI-00127-00038412-00038649 greater support for developing countries
2mYqtlh1YMI-00128-00038650-00038880 through a doubling of foreign aid and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00129-00038881-00039102 campaigns for Denmark's withdrawal from
2mYqtlh1YMI-00130-00039103-00039536 NATO in March 2019 the party announced
2mYqtlh1YMI-00131-00039537-00039720 it would no longer campaign for a
2mYqtlh1YMI-00132-00039721-00039977 referendum to leave the EU pointing to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00133-00039978-00040211 brexit illustrating the need for clarity
2mYqtlh1YMI-00134-00040212-00040449 before withdrawal can be considered the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00135-00040450-00040695 party operates on the fundamental belief
2mYqtlh1YMI-00136-00040696-00040932 that peace is preferable to war and has
2mYqtlh1YMI-00137-00040933-00041111 been opposed from the beginning -
2mYqtlh1YMI-00138-00041112-00041364 Denmark's participation in the wars in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00139-00041365-00041690 Iraq and Afghanistan however that
2mYqtlh1YMI-00140-00041691-00041985 principle was challenged in 2011 when
2mYqtlh1YMI-00141-00041986-00042224 the party's parliamentary group voted in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00142-00042225-00042507 favour of Danish participation in the UN
2mYqtlh1YMI-00143-00042508-00042767 sanctioned military action in Libya on
2mYqtlh1YMI-00144-00042768-00042946 the basis that it was a humanitarian
2mYqtlh1YMI-00145-00042947-00043329 action however the decision led to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00146-00043330-00043557 significant backlash and the party's
2mYqtlh1YMI-00147-00043558-00043745 support was pulled back after the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00148-00043746-00044464 military intervention began
2mYqtlh1YMI-00149-00044465-00044995 topic history
2mYqtlh1YMI-00150-00044996-00045327 the party was formed in 1989 as an
2mYqtlh1YMI-00151-00045328-00045574 electoral alliance of three left-wing
2mYqtlh1YMI-00152-00045575-00045910 parties left socialists vs Communist
2mYqtlh1YMI-00153-00045911-00046234 Party of Denmark dkp and Socialist
2mYqtlh1YMI-00154-00046235-00046633 Workers Party s ap originally the plan
2mYqtlh1YMI-00155-00046634-00046882 was to unite these parties alongside the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00156-00046883-00046939 Greens
2mYqtlh1YMI-00157-00046940-00047215 to Grahn common course and humanists to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00158-00047216-00047446 form a broad-based progressive movement
2mYqtlh1YMI-00159-00047447-00047773 but this did not materialize a fourth
2mYqtlh1YMI-00160-00047774-00048046 party the Communist Workers Party cap
2mYqtlh1YMI-00161-00048047-00048302 succeeded in joining the alliance in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00162-00048303-00048601 1991 but its involvement was vetoed a
2mYqtlh1YMI-00163-00048602-00049087 year later by dkp prior to the 2007
2mYqtlh1YMI-00164-00049088-00049299 parliamentary election the party
2mYqtlh1YMI-00165-00049300-00049662 enlisted asmaa Abdul Hamid a Danish
2mYqtlh1YMI-00166-00049663-00049893 Muslim candidate who identified herself
2mYqtlh1YMI-00167-00049894-00050314 as a feminist Democrat and socialist she
2mYqtlh1YMI-00168-00050315-00050574 is endorsed by some Imams opposed by
2mYqtlh1YMI-00169-00050575-00050890 others including those in H izb Tahrir
2mYqtlh1YMI-00170-00050891-00051151 wears an Islamic headscarf and will not
2mYqtlh1YMI-00171-00051152-00051460 shake hands with men these facts and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00172-00051461-00051614 some of her statements regarding
2mYqtlh1YMI-00173-00051615-00051870 politics and religion made her the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00174-00051871-00052092 target of some criticism across the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00175-00052094-00052344 political spectrum particularly from the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00176-00052345-00052657 Danish People's Party some left-wing
2mYqtlh1YMI-00177-00052658-00052941 figures cited her candidacy as a reason
2mYqtlh1YMI-00178-00052942-00053128 for withdrawing their support from the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00179-00053129-00053464 party an anti religious network was
2mYqtlh1YMI-00180-00053465-00053698 created within the party with the stated
2mYqtlh1YMI-00181-00053699-00053926 goal of turning the party into a solely
2mYqtlh1YMI-00182-00053927-00054216 atheist party with a materialist Marxist
2mYqtlh1YMI-00183-00054217-00054463 basis during the campaign there was some
2mYqtlh1YMI-00184-00054464-00054691 speculation as to whether her candidacy
2mYqtlh1YMI-00185-00054691-00055005 would attract or repel voters the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00186-00055007-00055312 results of the election were 2.2 percent
2mYqtlh1YMI-00187-00055313-00055639 for the party down from 3.4 percent in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00188-00055640-00055935 the 2005 parliamentary elections
2mYqtlh1YMI-00189-00055936-00056203 although not elected Abdul Hamid
2mYqtlh1YMI-00190-00056204-00056451 maintained that she had attracted voters
2mYqtlh1YMI-00191-00056452-00056763 to the party the four seats won by the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00192-00056764-00057051 party went to Frank a a Iain Joanne
2mYqtlh1YMI-00193-00057052-00057325 Schmidt Nielson line bar fight and /
2mYqtlh1YMI-00194-00057326-00057504 Claussen
2mYqtlh1YMI-00195-00057504-00057791 in the 2011 parliamentary election the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00196-00057792-00058107 party received 6.7 percent of the vote
2mYqtlh1YMI-00197-00058108-00058353 and tripled its representation from 4
2mYqtlh1YMI-00198-00058354-00058740 seats to 12 seats the party contested
2mYqtlh1YMI-00199-00058741-00059079 the 2013 local elections on a platform
2mYqtlh1YMI-00200-00059079-00059357 of improving public transport and making
2mYqtlh1YMI-00201-00059358-00059600 greater public investment as part of the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00202-00059601-00059946 left-leaning red block coalition with
2mYqtlh1YMI-00203-00059947-00060176 social demócrata and heads listen
2mYqtlh1YMI-00204-00060177-00060413 accepted the state budget twice and was
2mYqtlh1YMI-00205-00060414-00060648 in opposition twice in the period from
2mYqtlh1YMI-00206-00060649-00060869 2011 to 2015
2mYqtlh1YMI-00207-00060870-00061173 at no point however did they report
2mYqtlh1YMI-00208-00061174-00061409 direct opposition to the government in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00209-00061410-00061794 the 2015 general election the party
2mYqtlh1YMI-00210-00061795-00062088 received 7.8 percent of the vote and
2mYqtlh1YMI-00211-00062089-00062319 increased its representation from 12
2mYqtlh1YMI-00212-00062320-00063023 seats to 14 seats
2mYqtlh1YMI-00213-00063024-00063670 topic electoral performance
2mYqtlh1YMI-00214-00063671-00064005 you
2mYqtlh1YMI-00215-00064007-00064601 topic Parliament full kidding it
2mYqtlh1YMI-00216-00064602-00064891 the distribution of red-green alliances
2mYqtlh1YMI-00217-00064892-00065191 voters as geographically disparate while
2mYqtlh1YMI-00218-00065192-00065444 in nørrebro investor broad districts of
2mYqtlh1YMI-00219-00065445-00065711 Copenhagen it was the strongest party in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00220-00065712-00066011 the 2015 election scoring twenty six
2mYqtlh1YMI-00221-00066012-00066221 point five and twenty point eight
2mYqtlh1YMI-00222-00066222-00066488 percent respectively in Biss Feber get
2mYqtlh1YMI-00223-00066489-00066773 received 22 percent placing it only
2mYqtlh1YMI-00224-00066774-00067046 slightly behind the Social Democrats the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00225-00067047-00067292 party is much more weakly positioned in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00226-00067293-00067535 rural parts of Denmark taking only an
2mYqtlh1YMI-00227-00067536-00067871 average of 4.5% of votes in western
2mYqtlh1YMI-00228-00067872-00068188 Jutland with as little as 3.1 percent in
2mYqtlh1YMI-00229-00068189-00068817 the ring coping district
2mYqtlh1YMI-00230-00068818-00069397 topic European Parliament
2mYqtlh1YMI-00231-00069398-00069775 as of 2016 the red-green Alliance has
2mYqtlh1YMI-00232-00069776-00070027 never directly contested elections to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00233-00070028-00070231 the European Parliament preferring to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00234-00070232-00070438 support the people's movement against
2mYqtlh1YMI-00235-00070439-00070723 the EU a Euroskeptic party whose MEP
2mYqtlh1YMI-00236-00070724-00070999 sits in the European United Left Nordic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00237-00071000-00071314 green left group some of the party's MPs
2mYqtlh1YMI-00238-00071315-00071578 were considering running an independent
2mYqtlh1YMI-00239-00071579-00071983 list for the 2014 elections however this
2mYqtlh1YMI-00240-00071984-00072250 idea was dismissed by a majority on the
2mYqtlh1YMI-00241-00072251-00072487 party's yearly meeting in a historic
2mYqtlh1YMI-00242-00072488-00072712 decision a majority on the party's
2mYqtlh1YMI-00243-00072713-00073036 yearly meeting in May 2016 decided to
2mYqtlh1YMI-00244-00073037-00073279 directly contest the following European
2mYqtlh1YMI-00245-00073280-00073917 Parliament election
2mYqtlh1YMI-00246-00073918-00074463 topic membership
2mYqtlh1YMI-00247-00074464-00074824 you
2mYqtlh1YMI-00248-00074825-00075398 topic see also
2mYqtlh1YMI-00249-00075399-00075792 politics of Denmark Joanne Schmidt
2mYqtlh1YMI-00250-00075793-00076054 Nielsen
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33w3r_0JdaM-00034-00079883-00081282 so
33w3r_0JdaM-00037-00091183-00091392 you
371QTIbkkqc-00000-00000183-00000327 good afternoon
371QTIbkkqc-00001-00000328-00000551 um i'm jen person we are a digital
371QTIbkkqc-00002-00000552-00000823 rights organization coming from the uk
371QTIbkkqc-00003-00000824-00001054 and we operate primarily in england but
371QTIbkkqc-00004-00001055-00001223 i have the privilege of being part of a
371QTIbkkqc-00005-00001224-00001470 working group at the council of europe
371QTIbkkqc-00006-00001471-00001710 on artificial intelligence and education
371QTIbkkqc-00007-00001711-00001871 and i supported the
371QTIbkkqc-00008-00001872-00002159 committee on convention 108 the council
371QTIbkkqc-00009-00002160-00002423 of europe data protection committee to
371QTIbkkqc-00010-00002424-00002599 develop guidelines for data protection
371QTIbkkqc-00011-00002600-00002950 and education in 2019 and 2020 so most
371QTIbkkqc-00012-00002951-00003126 of my talk will be focused on the
371QTIbkkqc-00013-00003127-00003415 practical aspects of what ed tech means
371QTIbkkqc-00014-00003415-00003631 for children especially with a focus in
371QTIbkkqc-00015-00003632-00003735 england
371QTIbkkqc-00016-00003736-00003935 but i can answer questions and also
371QTIbkkqc-00017-00003936-00004167 think to the slightly bigger picture
371QTIbkkqc-00018-00004168-00004327 so i'll tie together a little bit of
371QTIbkkqc-00019-00004328-00004454 what we talked about already this
371QTIbkkqc-00020-00004455-00004679 morning what does it mean when we talk
371QTIbkkqc-00021-00004680-00004847 about the digital environment and
371QTIbkkqc-00022-00004848-00005047 education now there are already
371QTIbkkqc-00023-00005048-00005263 guidelines about this around the world
371QTIbkkqc-00024-00005264-00005463 including the un convention on the
371QTIbkkqc-00025-00005464-00005670 rights of the child
371QTIbkkqc-00026-00005671-00005918 general comment number 25 which talked
371QTIbkkqc-00027-00005919-00006111 about the rights of the child in the
371QTIbkkqc-00028-00006112-00006279 digital environment
371QTIbkkqc-00029-00006280-00006463 what's often forgotten is that many of
371QTIbkkqc-00030-00006464-00006670 these rights are dependent on what is
371QTIbkkqc-00031-00006672-00006942 not digital and that general comment is
371QTIbkkqc-00032-00006943-00007239 a really useful big overarching document
371QTIbkkqc-00033-00007240-00007455 to talk about the big picture of
371QTIbkkqc-00034-00007456-00007855 education it aims what is education for
371QTIbkkqc-00035-00007856-00008095 what is children's rights about and
371QTIbkkqc-00036-00008095-00008263 where does it fit in into the big
371QTIbkkqc-00037-00008264-00008455 picture
371QTIbkkqc-00038-00008456-00008703 when we talk about privacy in education
371QTIbkkqc-00039-00008704-00008951 we also often talk think when we talk in
371QTIbkkqc-00040-00008952-00009199 relation to the digital environment we
371QTIbkkqc-00041-00009200-00009414 narrow the thinking of privacy to the
371QTIbkkqc-00042-00009415-00009671 question of data protection
371QTIbkkqc-00043-00009672-00009846 i would challenge you this afternoon to
371QTIbkkqc-00044-00009847-00010071 think about more than data protection
371QTIbkkqc-00045-00010072-00010287 when we think about privacy and i will
371QTIbkkqc-00046-00010288-00010438 come on to that as we look at the
371QTIbkkqc-00047-00010439-00010646 emerging technologies in the ed tech
371QTIbkkqc-00048-00010647-00010910 sector
371QTIbkkqc-00049-00010911-00011199 privacy has been enshrined in law and in
371QTIbkkqc-00050-00011200-00011423 general documents around the world since
371QTIbkkqc-00051-00011424-00011663 the un declaration on human rights in
371QTIbkkqc-00052-00011664-00011903 1948
371QTIbkkqc-00053-00011904-00012287 arbitrary interference
371QTIbkkqc-00054-00012288-00012559 that is not a simple
371QTIbkkqc-00055-00012560-00012678 idea
371QTIbkkqc-00056-00012679-00012871 if you ask people what is your notion of
371QTIbkkqc-00057-00012872-00013094 privacy lots of people in the room will
371QTIbkkqc-00058-00013095-00013311 come up with different perspectives
371QTIbkkqc-00059-00013312-00013503 but for me the key point when we're
371QTIbkkqc-00060-00013504-00013751 talking about the child the child in
371QTIbkkqc-00061-00013752-00014047 education who is learning developing and
371QTIbkkqc-00062-00014047-00014263 growing into adulthood
371QTIbkkqc-00063-00014263-00014599 the question is who can influence that
371QTIbkkqc-00064-00014600-00015207 child and what does interference mean
371QTIbkkqc-00065-00015208-00015422 now we talk about ed tech in education
371QTIbkkqc-00066-00015423-00015791 at a critical point i think in quite a
371QTIbkkqc-00067-00015791-00015966 unique point
371QTIbkkqc-00068-00015968-00016127 david beasley the head of the world food
371QTIbkkqc-00069-00016128-00016311 programme came out and said we had a
371QTIbkkqc-00070-00016312-00016511 perfect storm before ukraine he's
371QTIbkkqc-00071-00016512-00016743 concerned about world food production
371QTIbkkqc-00072-00016744-00017103 because of covert climate and conflict
371QTIbkkqc-00073-00017104-00017335 this is the backdrop against which we
371QTIbkkqc-00074-00017336-00017567 currently are making choices
371QTIbkkqc-00075-00017568-00017727 and again this is the second thing i'd
371QTIbkkqc-00076-00017728-00017886 ask you to think about this afternoon
371QTIbkkqc-00077-00017887-00018183 which choices are we making for children
371QTIbkkqc-00078-00018184-00018407 and on behalf of children when they are
371QTIbkkqc-00079-00018408-00018919 disempowered to make their own
371QTIbkkqc-00080-00018920-00019199 in 2020 we mapped a typical day in the
371QTIbkkqc-00081-00019200-00019511 life of an 11 year old child in england
371QTIbkkqc-00082-00019512-00019639 and i would like to take you through
371QTIbkkqc-00083-00019640-00019758 some of that
371QTIbkkqc-00084-00019759-00019943 because these are the choices we have
371QTIbkkqc-00085-00019944-00020255 made perhaps not actively in the english
371QTIbkkqc-00086-00020256-00020527 education system
371QTIbkkqc-00087-00020528-00020727 a child will start their school day at
371QTIbkkqc-00088-00020728-00020943 seven o'clock they'll perhaps get a text
371QTIbkkqc-00089-00020944-00021135 message from their school on their phone
371QTIbkkqc-00090-00021136-00021350 or their parents will to tell them about
371QTIbkkqc-00091-00021351-00021567 something going on in the school day
371QTIbkkqc-00092-00021568-00021814 that's a company that's outsourced a
371QTIbkkqc-00093-00021815-00022039 private commercial company that has
371QTIbkkqc-00094-00022040-00022222 parents information and children's
371QTIbkkqc-00095-00022223-00022430 information to be able to con for the
371QTIbkkqc-00096-00022431-00022647 school to be able to interact and do
371QTIbkkqc-00097-00022648-00022927 home school communications
371QTIbkkqc-00098-00022928-00023158 as a child goes into the school
371QTIbkkqc-00099-00023159-00023358 in england we have increasingly adopted
371QTIbkkqc-00100-00023359-00023663 cctv and cameras in the playground in
371QTIbkkqc-00101-00023664-00023903 body cameras and crossings
371QTIbkkqc-00102-00023904-00024150 and in the classroom
371QTIbkkqc-00103-00024151-00024439 registration systems are centralized
371QTIbkkqc-00104-00024440-00024791 about 15 providers of uk
371QTIbkkqc-00105-00024792-00025030 schools information management systems
371QTIbkkqc-00106-00025031-00025263 sell their products to schools who then
371QTIbkkqc-00107-00025264-00025478 store all the children's personal
371QTIbkkqc-00108-00025479-00025678 information in commercialized
371QTIbkkqc-00109-00025679-00025967 proprietary systems
371QTIbkkqc-00110-00025968-00026279 these are then accessed by government
371QTIbkkqc-00111-00026280-00026639 through interoperable systems to extract
371QTIbkkqc-00112-00026639-00026911 that information
371QTIbkkqc-00113-00026912-00027079 increasingly often
371QTIbkkqc-00114-00027080-00027287 it used to be once a term that was three
371QTIbkkqc-00115-00027288-00027527 times a year the government in the uk
371QTIbkkqc-00116-00027527-00027662 has started
371QTIbkkqc-00117-00027663-00027855 collecting attendance data whether the
371QTIbkkqc-00118-00027856-00028062 child is in school or not
371QTIbkkqc-00119-00028063-00028343 every two to four hours
371QTIbkkqc-00120-00028344-00028495 you can ask yourself whether that is
371QTIbkkqc-00121-00028495-00028751 necessary or proportionate
371QTIbkkqc-00122-00028752-00028967 but as we go through the day children in
371QTIbkkqc-00123-00028968-00029295 england are increasingly datified
371QTIbkkqc-00124-00029295-00029479 everything they do on a digital platform
371QTIbkkqc-00125-00029480-00029687 is monitored through web monitoring
371QTIbkkqc-00126-00029688-00029902 companies these can be
371QTIbkkqc-00127-00029904-00030055 operate in all sorts of different ways
371QTIbkkqc-00128-00030056-00030231 some operate in conjunction with the
371QTIbkkqc-00129-00030232-00030487 school some are independent and
371QTIbkkqc-00130-00030488-00030735 will monitor children's activity online
371QTIbkkqc-00131-00030736-00030887 what they type
371QTIbkkqc-00132-00030888-00031062 what they store what they what they
371QTIbkkqc-00133-00031063-00031318 search for even what they delete can be
371QTIbkkqc-00134-00031319-00031455 recorded
371QTIbkkqc-00135-00031456-00031807 and keywords are flagged for children's
371QTIbkkqc-00136-00031808-00031911 risk
371QTIbkkqc-00137-00031912-00032127 now companies decide what those risks
371QTIbkkqc-00138-00032127-00032214 are
371QTIbkkqc-00139-00032216-00032383 they could be risks of harm to
371QTIbkkqc-00140-00032383-00032695 themselves self-harm harm to others like
371QTIbkkqc-00141-00032695-00032951 bullying or harm from others like
371QTIbkkqc-00142-00032952-00033087 grooming
371QTIbkkqc-00143-00033088-00033351 and increasingly child protection is
371QTIbkkqc-00144-00033352-00033615 seen as a necessary tool to package
371QTIbkkqc-00145-00033616-00034039 around digital tools as a layer on top
371QTIbkkqc-00146-00034040-00034231 the children will be later in the day
371QTIbkkqc-00147-00034232-00034455 being logging on to microsoft google and
371QTIbkkqc-00148-00034456-00034646 others particularly in the uk it was the
371QTIbkkqc-00149-00034647-00034839 two companies that got extra special
371QTIbkkqc-00150-00034840-00035087 funding access for schools in the
371QTIbkkqc-00151-00035088-00035246 pandemic
371QTIbkkqc-00152-00035247-00035462 in the canteens at lunchtime we
371QTIbkkqc-00153-00035463-00035718 increasingly have used biometrics we
371QTIbkkqc-00154-00035719-00035855 were one of the first countries since
371QTIbkkqc-00155-00035856-00036062 2001 to start using biometric
371QTIbkkqc-00156-00036063-00036239 fingerprint technologies commonly in
371QTIbkkqc-00157-00036240-00036487 schools for interactions with cashless
371QTIbkkqc-00158-00036488-00036662 payment systems
371QTIbkkqc-00159-00036663-00036927 children also use the biometric system
371QTIbkkqc-00160-00036928-00037174 to even borrow a library book
371QTIbkkqc-00161-00037175-00037535 so as a form of identification
371QTIbkkqc-00162-00037536-00037790 apps are multitudinous they can be used
371QTIbkkqc-00163-00037791-00038071 for all sorts of things but some will
371QTIbkkqc-00164-00038072-00038318 track behavior so that the teacher can
371QTIbkkqc-00165-00038319-00038543 interact with their child and say you
371QTIbkkqc-00166-00038544-00038718 did something great wonderful will
371QTIbkkqc-00167-00038719-00039046 record positive points or not negative
371QTIbkkqc-00168-00039047-00039287 points often using color-coded schemes
371QTIbkkqc-00169-00039288-00039462 like traffic lights
371QTIbkkqc-00170-00039463-00039687 these apps can be accessed often by
371QTIbkkqc-00171-00039688-00039918 parents as well
371QTIbkkqc-00172-00039919-00040055 and then there's
371QTIbkkqc-00173-00040056-00040318 teaching and learning apps now this may
371QTIbkkqc-00174-00040319-00040471 be one of the first times we've talked
371QTIbkkqc-00175-00040472-00040735 about teaching and learning so much of
371QTIbkkqc-00176-00040736-00041039 edtech in the uk is particularly focused
371QTIbkkqc-00177-00041040-00041343 around administration
371QTIbkkqc-00178-00041344-00041495 but teaching and learning apps can be
371QTIbkkqc-00179-00041496-00041662 used for perhaps filling in a few
371QTIbkkqc-00180-00041663-00041855 minutes at the start or end of a lesson
371QTIbkkqc-00181-00041856-00042102 in maths do a quick quiz test what the
371QTIbkkqc-00182-00042103-00042246 child knows
371QTIbkkqc-00183-00042247-00042543 or increasingly used for homework
371QTIbkkqc-00184-00042544-00042790 artificial intelligence platforms also
371QTIbkkqc-00185-00042791-00043055 being emerging and some will claim to be
371QTIbkkqc-00186-00043056-00043287 able to personalize learning
371QTIbkkqc-00187-00043288-00043455 that is a theme we've been exploring at
371QTIbkkqc-00188-00043456-00043646 the council of europe working group and
371QTIbkkqc-00189-00043647-00043895 it is a contested question whether
371QTIbkkqc-00190-00043896-00044143 personalized means personalized to you
371QTIbkkqc-00191-00044144-00044407 or whether often it means learners like
371QTIbkkqc-00192-00044408-00044479 you
371QTIbkkqc-00193-00044480-00044695 massive amounts of data being used to
371QTIbkkqc-00194-00044696-00044974 offer similar patterns of learning in
371QTIbkkqc-00195-00044975-00045215 what other children like you have done
371QTIbkkqc-00196-00045216-00045607 how personal is that really
371QTIbkkqc-00197-00045608-00045807 and then by the end of the day a child
371QTIbkkqc-00198-00045808-00046055 will find that all of these data in
371QTIbkkqc-00199-00046056-00046302 different companies can be either siloed
371QTIbkkqc-00200-00046303-00046439 into each of these individual
371QTIbkkqc-00201-00046440-00046718 proprietary companies and or
371QTIbkkqc-00202-00046719-00046927 collected as we see in the center for
371QTIbkkqc-00203-00046928-00047102 all these types of administration
371QTIbkkqc-00204-00047103-00047358 reasons that the school has and why they
371QTIbkkqc-00205-00047359-00047615 store a centralized record about of a
371QTIbkkqc-00206-00047616-00047743 child
371QTIbkkqc-00207-00047744-00047951 so what do you see in this the volume of
371QTIbkkqc-00208-00047952-00048174 actors now we saw earlier this morning
371QTIbkkqc-00209-00048175-00048407 that wide range of network the spider
371QTIbkkqc-00210-00048408-00048543 diagram
371QTIbkkqc-00211-00048544-00048702 that's all going on behind the scenes
371QTIbkkqc-00212-00048703-00048902 all these companies who are
371QTIbkkqc-00213-00048903-00049111 collecting information processing it
371QTIbkkqc-00214-00049112-00049279 storing it retaining it we don't know
371QTIbkkqc-00215-00049280-00049407 for how long
371QTIbkkqc-00216-00049408-00049607 all goes on behind the scenes the
371QTIbkkqc-00217-00049608-00049862 children only interact with the ring on
371QTIbkkqc-00218-00049863-00050102 the outside of this day
371QTIbkkqc-00219-00050103-00050374 how is an 11 year old possibly meant to
371QTIbkkqc-00220-00050375-00050646 understand how many companies
371QTIbkkqc-00221-00050647-00051086 they are interacting with if at all
371QTIbkkqc-00222-00051087-00051335 the surveillance this involves the data
371QTIbkkqc-00223-00051336-00051566 valence as ben williamson and deborah
371QTIbkkqc-00224-00051567-00051919 lupton called it in their paper in 2016
371QTIbkkqc-00225-00051920-00052246 is increasing and it's vast in the uk
371QTIbkkqc-00226-00052247-00052390 and it's increasingly meant the
371QTIbkkqc-00227-00052391-00052654 weakening if not total loss of home
371QTIbkkqc-00228-00052655-00052838 school boundaries
371QTIbkkqc-00229-00052839-00053038 what gets monitored in school has now
371QTIbkkqc-00230-00053039-00053287 also shifted to home so if a child is
371QTIbkkqc-00231-00053288-00053479 logged onto the school network their
371QTIbkkqc-00232-00053479-00053638 activity is monitored no matter where
371QTIbkkqc-00233-00053639-00053850 they are 24 7
371QTIbkkqc-00234-00053851-00054111 365 days a year
371QTIbkkqc-00235-00054112-00054391 so the question of privacy is really not
371QTIbkkqc-00236-00054391-00054638 a realistic question almost anymore but
371QTIbkkqc-00237-00054639-00054975 the confidentiality of data should be a
371QTIbkkqc-00238-00054976-00055126 professional question we should
371QTIbkkqc-00239-00055127-00055350 challenge ourselves to ask
371QTIbkkqc-00240-00055351-00055550 it's one that is increasingly difficult
371QTIbkkqc-00241-00055551-00055742 in proprietary systems held by multiple
371QTIbkkqc-00242-00055744-00055894 actors
371QTIbkkqc-00243-00055895-00056071 there are questions of accessibility and
371QTIbkkqc-00244-00056072-00056263 design
371QTIbkkqc-00245-00056264-00056350 how
371QTIbkkqc-00246-00056351-00056519 accessible are these for different
371QTIbkkqc-00247-00056520-00056750 children of neurodiverse conditions of
371QTIbkkqc-00248-00056751-00056911 different disabilities of different
371QTIbkkqc-00249-00056912-00057079 learning abilities
371QTIbkkqc-00250-00057079-00057247 what are the health and safety standards
371QTIbkkqc-00251-00057248-00057487 that apply to every tool
371QTIbkkqc-00252-00057488-00057750 here in the uk at least for us there are
371QTIbkkqc-00253-00057751-00058015 none anyone can basically start up an
371QTIbkkqc-00254-00058016-00058254 edtech app and sell it or give it away
371QTIbkkqc-00255-00058255-00058447 for free which is a very common way of
371QTIbkkqc-00256-00058448-00058615 accessing schools
371QTIbkkqc-00257-00058616-00058911 and data distribution whether to these
371QTIbkkqc-00258-00058912-00059166 companies on from the school to the
371QTIbkkqc-00259-00059167-00059391 company knowingly or whether from the
371QTIbkkqc-00260-00059391-00059711 companies to third parties afterwards is
371QTIbkkqc-00261-00059712-00059823 enormous
371QTIbkkqc-00262-00059824-00060103 we have for example um talked with a
371QTIbkkqc-00263-00060104-00060303 company that looks to parents to be
371QTIbkkqc-00264-00060304-00060526 quite a small app it measures their
371QTIbkkqc-00265-00060527-00060775 child's reading ability in
371QTIbkkqc-00266-00060776-00060966 the classroom and if a child borrows a
371QTIbkkqc-00267-00060967-00061191 book they can do a book report and that
371QTIbkkqc-00268-00061191-00061350 information is stored and they get
371QTIbkkqc-00269-00061351-00061526 points to say we've achieved certain
371QTIbkkqc-00270-00061527-00061766 numbers of books and reading this year
371QTIbkkqc-00271-00061767-00061911 there's questions around how does the
371QTIbkkqc-00272-00061912-00062159 company decide to score those books why
371QTIbkkqc-00273-00062160-00062423 does a um you know a certain type of
371QTIbkkqc-00274-00062424-00062638 george orwell book get higher or fewer
371QTIbkkqc-00275-00062639-00062854 points than a harry potter
371QTIbkkqc-00276-00062855-00063054 the company decides
371QTIbkkqc-00277-00063055-00063254 how is that influencing how a child
371QTIbkkqc-00278-00063255-00063479 chooses which books to read is a
371QTIbkkqc-00279-00063479-00063750 question most people don't ask
371QTIbkkqc-00280-00063751-00063950 but that company in fact is owned by
371QTIbkkqc-00281-00063951-00064215 private equity based in the cayman
371QTIbkkqc-00282-00064216-00064326 islands
371QTIbkkqc-00283-00064327-00064494 not something that parents would ever
371QTIbkkqc-00284-00064495-00064687 think their child would have interacted
371QTIbkkqc-00285-00064688-00064863 with when they send their child to
371QTIbkkqc-00286-00064864-00064999 school each day
371QTIbkkqc-00287-00065000-00065142 and this i think is the fundamental
371QTIbkkqc-00288-00065144-00065230 question
371QTIbkkqc-00289-00065232-00065591 why do children go to school
371QTIbkkqc-00290-00065592-00065799 they go to exercise their right
371QTIbkkqc-00291-00065800-00065975 education
371QTIbkkqc-00292-00065976-00066271 but increasingly emerging technologies
371QTIbkkqc-00293-00066272-00066487 are adding to what you might think of as
371QTIbkkqc-00294-00066488-00066631 a normal day
371QTIbkkqc-00295-00066632-00066847 they're becoming more intrusive and more
371QTIbkkqc-00296-00066848-00067015 invasive
371QTIbkkqc-00297-00067016-00067263 we've got the biometrics as you said are
371QTIbkkqc-00298-00067264-00067471 common from fingerprints now
371QTIbkkqc-00299-00067472-00067663 increasingly voice is being recorded in
371QTIbkkqc-00300-00067664-00067799 the classroom
371QTIbkkqc-00301-00067800-00068006 eye activity being monitored for
371QTIbkkqc-00302-00068007-00068175 concentration
371QTIbkkqc-00303-00068176-00068375 same as brain scanners you've seen in
371QTIbkkqc-00304-00068376-00068582 china where parents pushed back on them
371QTIbkkqc-00305-00068583-00068799 for monitoring concentration
371QTIbkkqc-00306-00068800-00069038 facial recognition and detection
371QTIbkkqc-00307-00069039-00069238 cameras even in the classrooms in the uk
371QTIbkkqc-00308-00069239-00069567 starting to test mood detection by based
371QTIbkkqc-00309-00069568-00069871 on facial detection and gait analysis
371QTIbkkqc-00310-00069872-00070111 and rfid tracking
371QTIbkkqc-00311-00070112-00070247 more intrusive
371QTIbkkqc-00312-00070248-00070471 as the emerging technologies are testing
371QTIbkkqc-00313-00070472-00070750 the boundaries of what's possible
371QTIbkkqc-00314-00070751-00071015 so what happens to rights i think one of
371QTIbkkqc-00315-00071016-00071175 the colleagues will come onto more later
371QTIbkkqc-00316-00071176-00071391 this afternoon as we're short of time
371QTIbkkqc-00317-00071392-00071671 but i think it matters to think not only
371QTIbkkqc-00318-00071672-00071903 about the right to education in this
371QTIbkkqc-00319-00071904-00072015 sector
371QTIbkkqc-00320-00072016-00072215 but what does it mean for the wider
371QTIbkkqc-00321-00072216-00072487 rights of the full entitlement of human
371QTIbkkqc-00322-00072488-00072687 rights
371QTIbkkqc-00323-00072688-00072799 children
371QTIbkkqc-00324-00072800-00073023 enjoy special protections and rights as
371QTIbkkqc-00325-00073024-00073135 children
371QTIbkkqc-00326-00073136-00073319 as the commissioner for human rights at
371QTIbkkqc-00327-00073320-00073503 the launch of the new council of europe
371QTIbkkqc-00328-00073504-00073631 strategy for the rights of the child
371QTIbkkqc-00329-00073632-00073911 said uh quite recently
371QTIbkkqc-00330-00073912-00074175 they are full rights holders and in the
371QTIbkkqc-00331-00074176-00074287 universal
371QTIbkkqc-00332-00074288-00074447 declaration of human rights we must
371QTIbkkqc-00333-00074448-00074703 remember that no one right
371QTIbkkqc-00334-00074704-00074847 trumps another
371QTIbkkqc-00335-00074848-00075223 rights are indivisible inalienable and
371QTIbkkqc-00336-00075224-00075615 interdependent
371QTIbkkqc-00337-00075616-00075767 but let's come back to the idea of the
371QTIbkkqc-00338-00075768-00075894 privacy
371QTIbkkqc-00339-00075895-00076071 that the child has a right to protection
371QTIbkkqc-00340-00076072-00076350 of the law against interference
371QTIbkkqc-00341-00076351-00076543 emerging technologies are pushing the
371QTIbkkqc-00342-00076544-00076775 boundaries of this much further freedom
371QTIbkkqc-00343-00076776-00077055 to think confidentiality
371QTIbkkqc-00344-00077056-00077255 are questioned and challenged
371QTIbkkqc-00345-00077256-00077462 by apps and technology that measure mood
371QTIbkkqc-00346-00077463-00077703 or attentiveness or concentration we've
371QTIbkkqc-00347-00077704-00077894 got artificial intelligence that claims
371QTIbkkqc-00348-00077895-00078071 to be able to measure your
371QTIbkkqc-00349-00078072-00078223 mental health
371QTIbkkqc-00350-00078224-00078543 based on quiz questions that you answer
371QTIbkkqc-00351-00078544-00078775 deletions think things that children
371QTIbkkqc-00352-00078776-00078943 have typed into search engines are still
371QTIbkkqc-00353-00078944-00079135 being recorded and monitored and may
371QTIbkkqc-00354-00079136-00079319 trigger flags
371QTIbkkqc-00355-00079320-00079447 where is
371QTIbkkqc-00356-00079448-00079543 the
371QTIbkkqc-00357-00079544-00079831 child's privacy in terms of how they
371QTIbkkqc-00358-00079832-00080079 have freedom to think and as child
371QTIbkkqc-00359-00080080-00080511 developing that's incredibly important
371QTIbkkqc-00360-00080512-00080735 the freedom of association and privacy
371QTIbkkqc-00361-00080736-00080887 something we don't often think about in
371QTIbkkqc-00362-00080888-00081182 education but again these emerging
371QTIbkkqc-00363-00081183-00081367 technologies are pushing the boundaries
371QTIbkkqc-00364-00081368-00081615 of this to measure intent
371QTIbkkqc-00365-00081616-00081831 what do we look like we're about to do
371QTIbkkqc-00366-00081832-00082062 what does our mood suggest we're about
371QTIbkkqc-00367-00082063-00082503 to react how might behaviors be measured
371QTIbkkqc-00368-00082504-00082775 privacy and identity in education is
371QTIbkkqc-00369-00082776-00082982 challenged by the administration tools
371QTIbkkqc-00370-00082983-00083135 again using increasingly using
371QTIbkkqc-00371-00083136-00083406 biometrics access controls voice
371QTIbkkqc-00372-00083407-00083711 analysis and teaching analytics
371QTIbkkqc-00373-00083712-00083903 so all of these emerging technologies
371QTIbkkqc-00374-00083904-00084182 are challenging the law on defining what
371QTIbkkqc-00375-00084183-00084479 is biometrics because biometrics in law
371QTIbkkqc-00376-00084480-00084775 is defined as the ability to identify an
371QTIbkkqc-00377-00084776-00084894 individual
371QTIbkkqc-00378-00084895-00085055 and often they're not interested in
371QTIbkkqc-00379-00085056-00085287 being able to identify the individual
371QTIbkkqc-00380-00085288-00085503 it's the ability to profile and behave
371QTIbkkqc-00381-00085504-00085759 and measure behavior and base
371QTIbkkqc-00382-00085760-00085911 predictions on it that's becoming
371QTIbkkqc-00383-00085912-00086167 increasingly important
371QTIbkkqc-00384-00086168-00086431 so as you look to develop new guidelines
371QTIbkkqc-00385-00086432-00086623 there are existing ones that may be of
371QTIbkkqc-00386-00086624-00086718 use
371QTIbkkqc-00387-00086719-00086943 but all of these i think are still being
371QTIbkkqc-00388-00086944-00087191 challenged as we look at what is the
371QTIbkkqc-00389-00087192-00087279 real
371QTIbkkqc-00390-00087280-00087567 basis of the child's reason for being in
371QTIbkkqc-00391-00087568-00087847 education we have to think not only
371QTIbkkqc-00392-00087848-00088062 about the the rights of the child in
371QTIbkkqc-00393-00088063-00088199 terms of
371QTIbkkqc-00394-00088200-00088447 their ability to access education but
371QTIbkkqc-00395-00088448-00088806 also the aims of education
371QTIbkkqc-00396-00088807-00089038 the aims of education set out in the
371QTIbkkqc-00397-00089039-00089447 uncrc article 29 the very first general
371QTIbkkqc-00398-00089448-00089647 comment that the un the un convention on
371QTIbkkqc-00399-00089648-00089799 the rights of the child committee set
371QTIbkkqc-00400-00089800-00089894 out
371QTIbkkqc-00401-00089895-00090062 was about
371QTIbkkqc-00402-00090063-00090343 the aims of education to promote and
371QTIbkkqc-00403-00090344-00090535 support
371QTIbkkqc-00404-00090536-00090782 that and protect the dignity and in
371QTIbkkqc-00405-00090783-00091006 equal and inalienable rights of the
371QTIbkkqc-00406-00091007-00091135 child
371QTIbkkqc-00407-00091136-00091550 to be able to flourish into adulthood
371QTIbkkqc-00408-00091551-00091718 so we should need to think not only
371QTIbkkqc-00409-00091719-00091943 about the child as an individual but how
371QTIbkkqc-00410-00091944-00092255 we are influencing their development
371QTIbkkqc-00411-00092256-00092462 and also then as we look towards the
371QTIbkkqc-00412-00092463-00092759 future think about how their development
371QTIbkkqc-00413-00092760-00092926 is being influenced by these other
371QTIbkkqc-00414-00092927-00093126 actors around the world
371QTIbkkqc-00415-00093127-00093343 we talked this morning about sovereignty
371QTIbkkqc-00416-00093344-00093535 about the influence of
371QTIbkkqc-00417-00093536-00093735 big tech and
371QTIbkkqc-00418-00093736-00093831 the
371QTIbkkqc-00419-00093832-00094047 funding of education
371QTIbkkqc-00420-00094048-00094303 we need to think about who is learning
371QTIbkkqc-00421-00094304-00094487 while children learn
371QTIbkkqc-00422-00094488-00094687 what are these companies taking away to
371QTIbkkqc-00423-00094688-00094950 understand the big picture of education
371QTIbkkqc-00424-00094951-00095111 what power does that give them to
371QTIbkkqc-00425-00095112-00095335 influence not only the child but the
371QTIbkkqc-00426-00095336-00095574 state sector and the state's delivery of
371QTIbkkqc-00427-00095575-00095862 education and the cost of this
371QTIbkkqc-00428-00095863-00096111 as companies that may be free today may
371QTIbkkqc-00429-00096112-00096303 start charging tomorrow
371QTIbkkqc-00430-00096304-00096487 what will that mean for the future
371QTIbkkqc-00431-00096488-00096774 ability to deliver education at state
371QTIbkkqc-00432-00096775-00096847 level
371QTIbkkqc-00433-00096848-00097294 and who will control that
371QTIbkkqc-00434-00097295-00097487 ultimately we need to remember the aims
371QTIbkkqc-00435-00097488-00097726 of education
371QTIbkkqc-00436-00097727-00097855 should be directed to the full
371QTIbkkqc-00437-00097856-00098103 development of the human personality and
371QTIbkkqc-00438-00098104-00098279 strengthening the respect for human
371QTIbkkqc-00439-00098280-00098574 rights and fundamental freedoms
371QTIbkkqc-00440-00098575-00098750 and perhaps it is no more timely than
371QTIbkkqc-00441-00098751-00098967 now to remember it's also about
371QTIbkkqc-00442-00098968-00099167 promoting understanding tolerance and
371QTIbkkqc-00443-00099168-00099526 friendship among all nations
371QTIbkkqc-00444-00099527-00099715 thank you
371QTIbkkqc-00445-00099716-00100805 [Applause]
37pKNdi1-lI-00000-00000006-00000101 [Music]
37pKNdi1-lI-00001-00000102-00000371 um I'm Zinnia I've been working at spnn
37pKNdi1-lI-00002-00000372-00000641 for about
37pKNdi1-lI-00003-00000642-00000875 um three years now three or four years
37pKNdi1-lI-00004-00000876-00001204 like three years officially and then I
37pKNdi1-lI-00005-00001205-00001391 think with everything else I have been
37pKNdi1-lI-00006-00001392-00001601 like doing programming there or working
37pKNdi1-lI-00007-00001602-00001763 with another program that was there so
37pKNdi1-lI-00008-00001764-00002021 I've been around aspening for a while
37pKNdi1-lI-00009-00002022-00002291 um and yeah so much excited to let
37pKNdi1-lI-00010-00002292-00002434 people know about this program this is
37pKNdi1-lI-00011-00002435-00002668 my second year doing it or facilitating
37pKNdi1-lI-00012-00002669-00002939 it uh the years prior it was ran by jua
37pKNdi1-lI-00013-00002940-00003118 it was amazing and is still doing
37pKNdi1-lI-00014-00003119-00003293 amazing work in the Twin Cities amazing
37pKNdi1-lI-00015-00003294-00003551 documentary work so yeah we're gonna go
37pKNdi1-lI-00016-00003552-00003688 ahead and get started let me share my
37pKNdi1-lI-00017-00003689-00004145 screen
37pKNdi1-lI-00018-00004146-00004369 thank you
37pKNdi1-lI-00019-00004370-00004672 and uh once again
37pKNdi1-lI-00020-00004673-00004804 um the overview we're gonna do a little
37pKNdi1-lI-00021-00004805-00005009 bit about spnn and then we'll go
37pKNdi1-lI-00022-00005010-00005183 directly into
37pKNdi1-lI-00023-00005184-00005447 learning about the program
37pKNdi1-lI-00024-00005448-00005633 can everybody see my screen give me a
37pKNdi1-lI-00025-00005634-00005849 thumbs up I can see some faces okay
37pKNdi1-lI-00026-00005850-00005952 beautiful
37pKNdi1-lI-00027-00005953-00006233 oh cool
37pKNdi1-lI-00028-00006234-00006478 let's see if this will work for me
37pKNdi1-lI-00029-00006479-00006809 cool so Saint Paul Neighborhood Network
37pKNdi1-lI-00030-00006809-00007025 um the mission that we have is the
37pKNdi1-lI-00031-00007026-00007234 stories we see in mass media impact the
37pKNdi1-lI-00032-00007236-00007498 beliefs ideas and values that shape the
37pKNdi1-lI-00033-00007500-00007714 way our world operates our mission is to
37pKNdi1-lI-00034-00007715-00007919 empower people to use media and
37pKNdi1-lI-00035-00007920-00008164 Communications to make Better Lives use
37pKNdi1-lI-00036-00008165-00008351 authentic voice and build common
37pKNdi1-lI-00037-00008352-00008555 understanding
37pKNdi1-lI-00038-00008556-00008764 um SPN is technically how I would
37pKNdi1-lI-00039-00008765-00008939 consider it as a media Access Center
37pKNdi1-lI-00040-00008940-00009209 where there is programming for folks to
37pKNdi1-lI-00041-00009210-00009509 learn about cameras learn about editing
37pKNdi1-lI-00042-00009510-00009713 learn about Studio usage and Public
37pKNdi1-lI-00043-00009714-00009977 Access programs we also do some
37pKNdi1-lI-00044-00009978-00010073 different types of learning
37pKNdi1-lI-00045-00010074-00010283 opportunities in the community as well
37pKNdi1-lI-00046-00010284-00010463 as having opportunities like this new
37pKNdi1-lI-00047-00010464-00010642 angle fellows and docu for people to
37pKNdi1-lI-00048-00010643-00010864 come in and kind of work on their craft
37pKNdi1-lI-00049-00010865-00011146 and kind of build more skills at every
37pKNdi1-lI-00050-00011147-00011351 stage in development and provide
37pKNdi1-lI-00051-00011352-00011587 platforms for those pieces to be shown
37pKNdi1-lI-00052-00011588-00011860 the funders for this program are the
37pKNdi1-lI-00053-00011861-00012028 Jerome foundation and the National
37pKNdi1-lI-00054-00012029-00012287 Endowment for the Arts
37pKNdi1-lI-00055-00012288-00012592 um yeah
37pKNdi1-lI-00056-00012593-00012844 and so the outline for today will go
37pKNdi1-lI-00057-00012845-00013153 over the program overview eligibility
37pKNdi1-lI-00058-00013154-00013397 requirements application and questions
37pKNdi1-lI-00059-00013397-00013655 at the end and also if there are
37pKNdi1-lI-00060-00013656-00013786 questions that come up as I'm talking
37pKNdi1-lI-00061-00013787-00014021 feel free to like type them like raise
37pKNdi1-lI-00062-00014022-00014141 your hand or you can like unmute
37pKNdi1-lI-00063-00014141-00014363 interesting I have a question
37pKNdi1-lI-00064-00014363-00014501 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00065-00014502-00014722 so for the program overview New England
37pKNdi1-lI-00066-00014723-00014921 fellows is a seven month Fellowship that
37pKNdi1-lI-00067-00014922-00015149 supports underrepresented in an emerging
37pKNdi1-lI-00068-00015150-00015419 documentary filmmakers The cohort of six
37pKNdi1-lI-00069-00015419-00015683 members will get the opportunity to
37pKNdi1-lI-00070-00015684-00015875 learn skills and knowledge from more
37pKNdi1-lI-00071-00015876-00016036 advanced filmmakers and gain support
37pKNdi1-lI-00072-00016037-00016300 from one another fellows will receive 3
37pKNdi1-lI-00073-00016301-00016571 500 stipend to support them in producing
37pKNdi1-lI-00074-00016572-00016763 their documentary
37pKNdi1-lI-00075-00016764-00016967 um yes
37pKNdi1-lI-00076-00016968-00017380 so little side notes uh the session
37pKNdi1-lI-00077-00017381-00017644 um so apart the large portion of New
37pKNdi1-lI-00078-00017645-00017836 Angle follows is that it's a cohort
37pKNdi1-lI-00079-00017837-00018035 structure which means we spend a lot of
37pKNdi1-lI-00080-00018036-00018263 time being in group with one another so
37pKNdi1-lI-00081-00018264-00018563 twice a month from November to May on a
37pKNdi1-lI-00082-00018564-00018772 Wednesday evening we will meet at ESPN n
37pKNdi1-lI-00083-00018773-00019030 or another identified location
37pKNdi1-lI-00084-00019031-00019247 um to go through some lessons whether
37pKNdi1-lI-00085-00019248-00019505 that be around pitching making pitch
37pKNdi1-lI-00086-00019506-00019691 decks story development story
37pKNdi1-lI-00087-00019692-00019936 construction for documentary reviews
37pKNdi1-lI-00088-00019937-00020147 having visiting artists things like that
37pKNdi1-lI-00089-00020148-00020399 come in in the past it's been really
37pKNdi1-lI-00090-00020400-00020644 beneficial for people to be working on
37pKNdi1-lI-00091-00020645-00020867 something in a group and like meeting
37pKNdi1-lI-00092-00020868-00021089 other people that are also working and
37pKNdi1-lI-00093-00021090-00021364 doing similar things to you
37pKNdi1-lI-00094-00021365-00021497 um so that's always been really exciting
37pKNdi1-lI-00095-00021498-00021664 I was a doctor I was a New England
37pKNdi1-lI-00096-00021665-00021917 fellows in 2019. that was one of the
37pKNdi1-lI-00097-00021918-00022228 main like benefits was like growing with
37pKNdi1-lI-00098-00022229-00022421 this group of people and like having
37pKNdi1-lI-00099-00022422-00022661 those connections forever and also just
37pKNdi1-lI-00100-00022662-00022775 seeing
37pKNdi1-lI-00101-00022776-00022997 what it looks like to be a filmmaker in
37pKNdi1-lI-00102-00022998-00023189 Minneapolis or in St Paul and like
37pKNdi1-lI-00103-00023190-00023393 because it can feel um insular and very
37pKNdi1-lI-00104-00023394-00023549 isolated at times but there are other
37pKNdi1-lI-00105-00023550-00023807 people doing very similar work
37pKNdi1-lI-00106-00023808-00024130 um so yeah that's for the sessions
37pKNdi1-lI-00107-00024131-00024257 um and then the participants will
37pKNdi1-lI-00108-00024258-00024508 receive 3 500 and that'll be distributed
37pKNdi1-lI-00109-00024509-00024671 in three chunks
37pKNdi1-lI-00110-00024672-00024893 um this is something that I think will
37pKNdi1-lI-00111-00024894-00025025 be helpful
37pKNdi1-lI-00112-00025026-00025241 with getting people
37pKNdi1-lI-00113-00025242-00025469 kind of to hold themselves accountable
37pKNdi1-lI-00114-00025470-00025702 for work I'm also a practicing artists
37pKNdi1-lI-00115-00025704-00026014 in the cities and um quite a few funders
37pKNdi1-lI-00116-00026016-00026339 do payment in chunks the purpose for
37pKNdi1-lI-00117-00026339-00026608 this uh distribution method is that
37pKNdi1-lI-00118-00026610-00026849 there are Milestones that will be
37pKNdi1-lI-00119-00026850-00027149 determined between myself as the program
37pKNdi1-lI-00120-00027150-00027383 facilitator and an individual
37pKNdi1-lI-00121-00027383-00027617 participants on kind of where they think
37pKNdi1-lI-00122-00027618-00027874 good Milestones are for them to meet so
37pKNdi1-lI-00123-00027875-00028012 that I can hold them accountable they
37pKNdi1-lI-00124-00028013-00028270 can hold themselves accountable that's
37pKNdi1-lI-00125-00028272-00028511 not meant to be like uh I'm holding your
37pKNdi1-lI-00126-00028512-00028745 money until you do what I want you to do
37pKNdi1-lI-00127-00028745-00028877 it's more so just an accountability
37pKNdi1-lI-00128-00028877-00029117 thing to help you take full advantage of
37pKNdi1-lI-00129-00029118-00029458 the program in past years A lot of it
37pKNdi1-lI-00130-00029460-00029717 happens a lot it happened to me as well
37pKNdi1-lI-00131-00029718-00029795 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00132-00029795-00030011 people life happens and things kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00133-00030012-00030185 get pushed back until like the very end
37pKNdi1-lI-00134-00030186-00030364 and it's hard to take advantage of like
37pKNdi1-lI-00135-00030366-00030599 review sessions and like take full
37pKNdi1-lI-00136-00030600-00030761 advantage of visiting artists if you're
37pKNdi1-lI-00137-00030762-00030935 not keeping up with your project and
37pKNdi1-lI-00138-00030936-00031079 kind of progressing
37pKNdi1-lI-00139-00031080-00031212 um so the intention is to help
37pKNdi1-lI-00140-00031213-00031529 accountability on both ends
37pKNdi1-lI-00141-00031530-00031793 um so that's around the stipends
37pKNdi1-lI-00142-00031794-00032081 eligibility as long as if you are a
37pKNdi1-lI-00143-00032082-00032405 resident in the Twin Cities metro area
37pKNdi1-lI-00144-00032406-00032524 um and for the duration of the
37pKNdi1-lI-00145-00032525-00032705 fellowship you are a member of a
37pKNdi1-lI-00146-00032706-00032861 marginalized underrepresented Community
37pKNdi1-lI-00147-00032862-00033179 biopoc lgbtq women or non-binary
37pKNdi1-lI-00148-00033180-00033365 disabled Etc
37pKNdi1-lI-00149-00033366-00033568 um you are 18 years or older and not
37pKNdi1-lI-00150-00033569-00033835 enrolled in higher education College
37pKNdi1-lI-00151-00033836-00034231 from the fall 2020 to 2023 in the spring
37pKNdi1-lI-00152-00034232-00034487 and then that you were also in emerging
37pKNdi1-lI-00153-00034488-00034762 filmmaker that also is a little bit of a
37pKNdi1-lI-00154-00034763-00035009 loose definition and then so I kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00155-00035010-00035302 broke down what emerging curator can
37pKNdi1-lI-00156-00035303-00035507 mean and we also have space for you to
37pKNdi1-lI-00157-00035508-00035651 explain that in your application and
37pKNdi1-lI-00158-00035652-00035921 it's very individualized
37pKNdi1-lI-00159-00035922-00036089 um so an artist who have an ongoing
37pKNdi1-lI-00160-00036090-00036346 commitment to working in the media into
37pKNdi1-lI-00161-00036347-00036557 working in the in media production
37pKNdi1-lI-00162-00036558-00036755 rather than engaging in it as a hobby
37pKNdi1-lI-00163-00036756-00037061 Pastime or occasional Pursuit artists
37pKNdi1-lI-00164-00037062-00037246 who at the time of application have
37pKNdi1-lI-00165-00037247-00037427 generated completed and publicly
37pKNdi1-lI-00166-00037428-00037674 presented published documentary work
37pKNdi1-lI-00167-00037675-00037918 artists who whose primary goal is to
37pKNdi1-lI-00168-00037919-00038152 generate new documentaries as opposed to
37pKNdi1-lI-00169-00038153-00038411 remounting or reinterpreting existing
37pKNdi1-lI-00170-00038412-00038674 work artists who are in the early stages
37pKNdi1-lI-00171-00038675-00038873 of their creative development artists
37pKNdi1-lI-00172-00038874-00039089 who have a focused Direction and and
37pKNdi1-lI-00173-00039090-00039352 goals even while still developing their
37pKNdi1-lI-00174-00039353-00039605 artistic voice artists who have yet to
37pKNdi1-lI-00175-00039606-00039802 be substantially celebrated within their
37pKNdi1-lI-00176-00039803-00040018 field the media the media funding
37pKNdi1-lI-00177-00040019-00040349 circles or that or the public at Large
37pKNdi1-lI-00178-00040350-00040529 um so with that being said it's kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00179-00040530-00040751 individualized and this section of the
37pKNdi1-lI-00180-00040752-00040889 application gives you time to explain
37pKNdi1-lI-00181-00040890-00041129 why you feel you're emerging and however
37pKNdi1-lI-00182-00041130-00041405 that's defined for you personally
37pKNdi1-lI-00183-00041406-00041561 um yeah and I think there are more
37pKNdi1-lI-00184-00041562-00041717 technical definitions amongst different
37pKNdi1-lI-00185-00041718-00041827 funders
37pKNdi1-lI-00186-00041828-00042083 uh I think like McKnight and things like
37pKNdi1-lI-00187-00042084-00042268 that have more
37pKNdi1-lI-00188-00042269-00042545 um specific definitions but once again
37pKNdi1-lI-00189-00042546-00042730 like a lot of other funders they're
37pKNdi1-lI-00190-00042731-00042929 starting to do now leaving more room for
37pKNdi1-lI-00191-00042930-00043162 people to self-identify and declare how
37pKNdi1-lI-00192-00043163-00043427 what stage they think they're in so
37pKNdi1-lI-00193-00043428-00043624 all that being said you get to tell us
37pKNdi1-lI-00194-00043625-00043955 what stage we think you're at
37pKNdi1-lI-00195-00043956-00044195 um requirements uh attend monthly
37pKNdi1-lI-00196-00044196-00044429 sessions so those were the two Wednesday
37pKNdi1-lI-00197-00044430-00044711 evenings a month I was referring to
37pKNdi1-lI-00198-00044712-00044861 um and those will happen all the way
37pKNdi1-lI-00199-00044862-00045221 from November to May and then in June
37pKNdi1-lI-00200-00045222-00045418 the screening will happen
37pKNdi1-lI-00201-00045419-00045612 um it will also be one-on-one check-ins
37pKNdi1-lI-00202-00045613-00045905 and those will probably be used to check
37pKNdi1-lI-00203-00045906-00046180 in on those benchmarks individually and
37pKNdi1-lI-00204-00046181-00046337 any other like assistance that you need
37pKNdi1-lI-00205-00046338-00046505 and those one-on-one check-ins can be
37pKNdi1-lI-00206-00046506-00046687 curated to be
37pKNdi1-lI-00207-00046688-00046943 uh to serve whatever support that you're
37pKNdi1-lI-00208-00046944-00047111 looking for at whatever stage in the
37pKNdi1-lI-00209-00047112-00047290 process you're at
37pKNdi1-lI-00210-00047291-00047452 um engage with other fellows in the
37pKNdi1-lI-00211-00047453-00047693 cohort to support one another we don't
37pKNdi1-lI-00212-00047694-00047867 force people to work on each other's
37pKNdi1-lI-00213-00047868-00048040 pieces but oftentimes it winds up
37pKNdi1-lI-00214-00048041-00048196 happening people collaborate because
37pKNdi1-lI-00215-00048197-00048467 often we encourage people to work in
37pKNdi1-lI-00216-00048468-00048712 teams or to start building out teams
37pKNdi1-lI-00217-00048713-00048965 because it is very hard to film
37pKNdi1-lI-00218-00048966-00049265 interview do everything on set set up
37pKNdi1-lI-00219-00049266-00049499 and do the whole thing by yourself and
37pKNdi1-lI-00220-00049500-00049690 so we kind of encourage you to reach out
37pKNdi1-lI-00221-00049691-00049889 to other folks in the film in the film
37pKNdi1-lI-00222-00049890-00050033 world that are close to you and also in
37pKNdi1-lI-00223-00050034-00050236 your cohort
37pKNdi1-lI-00224-00050237-00050302 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00225-00050303-00050512 complete a three to ten minute work in
37pKNdi1-lI-00226-00050513-00050752 progress or a completed documentary to
37pKNdi1-lI-00227-00050753-00051107 show at a public screening in June
37pKNdi1-lI-00228-00051108-00051299 so in the past years there's been
37pKNdi1-lI-00229-00051300-00051461 requirements that a completed
37pKNdi1-lI-00230-00051462-00051688 documentary be done a lot of people come
37pKNdi1-lI-00231-00051689-00052025 in wanting to do Feature Feature length
37pKNdi1-lI-00232-00052026-00052325 um that's not frowned upon or like not
37pKNdi1-lI-00233-00052326-00052601 an option however we are aware that
37pKNdi1-lI-00234-00052602-00052792 seven months isn't really a long time to
37pKNdi1-lI-00235-00052794-00053021 complete a feature-length piece so we do
37pKNdi1-lI-00236-00053022-00053147 accept
37pKNdi1-lI-00237-00053148-00053399 um shorts and we also encourage people
37pKNdi1-lI-00238-00053400-00053807 to think about this program as kind of a
37pKNdi1-lI-00239-00053808-00054004 next step or a transition period so if
37pKNdi1-lI-00240-00054005-00054215 you are someone who's looking to get
37pKNdi1-lI-00241-00054216-00054425 funding or more funding for a specific
37pKNdi1-lI-00242-00054426-00054665 project using this time to build a
37pKNdi1-lI-00243-00054666-00054935 sample a really good sample that you can
37pKNdi1-lI-00244-00054936-00055126 submit to other things for funders or
37pKNdi1-lI-00245-00055127-00055307 submit to film festivals or at different
37pKNdi1-lI-00246-00055308-00055607 film labs and it can count in that way
37pKNdi1-lI-00247-00055608-00055937 as well so it's individualized what kind
37pKNdi1-lI-00248-00055938-00056069 of finished product you want to walk
37pKNdi1-lI-00249-00056070-00056344 away with and we can help assist you
37pKNdi1-lI-00250-00056345-00056471 with that
37pKNdi1-lI-00251-00056472-00056776 and then also SPN in as an access
37pKNdi1-lI-00252-00056777-00057100 Channel we have channels that we can put
37pKNdi1-lI-00253-00057101-00057197 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00254-00057198-00057437 media that has been made by cohorts as
37pKNdi1-lI-00255-00057438-00057688 well as members
37pKNdi1-lI-00256-00057689-00057971 um so at the end of it concerned film
37pKNdi1-lI-00257-00057972-00058216 festivals have requirements of like
37pKNdi1-lI-00258-00058217-00058337 um you can only submit to this Film
37pKNdi1-lI-00259-00058338-00058511 Festival if it's never been shown before
37pKNdi1-lI-00260-00058512-00058691 or it's never had an official screening
37pKNdi1-lI-00261-00058691-00058913 so when we do eye screening we call it a
37pKNdi1-lI-00262-00058914-00059063 work in progress screening so that it
37pKNdi1-lI-00263-00059064-00059266 doesn't interfere with any submissions
37pKNdi1-lI-00264-00059267-00059519 to film festivals but we ultimately we
37pKNdi1-lI-00265-00059520-00060113 would love to host it on um our channels
37pKNdi1-lI-00266-00060114-00060394 so application questions I pulled out
37pKNdi1-lI-00267-00060395-00060544 some of the ones there are more like
37pKNdi1-lI-00268-00060545-00060742 specific demographic questions and some
37pKNdi1-lI-00269-00060744-00060971 of those uh more common questions like
37pKNdi1-lI-00270-00060972-00061157 address email like all those types of
37pKNdi1-lI-00271-00061158-00061354 things names pronouns
37pKNdi1-lI-00272-00061355-00061571 um and then other General demographic
37pKNdi1-lI-00273-00061572-00061775 questions but the ones I pulled out to
37pKNdi1-lI-00274-00061776-00062026 talk about today are just uh ones that
37pKNdi1-lI-00275-00062027-00062225 are more narrative so as I'm reading
37pKNdi1-lI-00276-00062226-00062380 them off if you have any questions feel
37pKNdi1-lI-00277-00062382-00062626 free to just interject so
37pKNdi1-lI-00278-00062627-00062903 um who are you as a filmmaker or media
37pKNdi1-lI-00279-00062904-00063023 artist
37pKNdi1-lI-00280-00063024-00063269 um why do you do this work what is your
37pKNdi1-lI-00281-00063270-00063466 experience with video slash Film
37pKNdi1-lI-00282-00063467-00063713 Production where are you now in your
37pKNdi1-lI-00283-00063714-00063935 media career what are your long-term
37pKNdi1-lI-00284-00063936-00064241 goals for media and career please list
37pKNdi1-lI-00285-00064241-00064541 any recognition you've received for your
37pKNdi1-lI-00286-00064541-00064799 work if any please share with us a list
37pKNdi1-lI-00287-00064800-00065069 of the media pieces you have produced um
37pKNdi1-lI-00288-00065070-00065266 and include the title year completed
37pKNdi1-lI-00289-00065267-00065525 your specific role and where you
37pKNdi1-lI-00290-00065526-00065837 presented slash published it
37pKNdi1-lI-00291-00065838-00066125 and then how would a documentary
37pKNdi1-lI-00292-00066126-00066406 Fellowship benefit you what phase are
37pKNdi1-lI-00293-00066407-00066611 you in what phase are you in for your
37pKNdi1-lI-00294-00066612-00066838 film please describe the documentary you
37pKNdi1-lI-00295-00066839-00066982 would like to work on in the New England
37pKNdi1-lI-00296-00066983-00067223 fellows what relationship do you already
37pKNdi1-lI-00297-00067224-00067456 have to the people or the subjects that
37pKNdi1-lI-00298-00067457-00067685 you're interested in following and what
37pKNdi1-lI-00299-00067686-00067906 would you spend your thirty five hundred
37pKNdi1-lI-00300-00067907-00068165 dollar stipend on
37pKNdi1-lI-00301-00068166-00068399 um so those are the more narrative-based
37pKNdi1-lI-00302-00068400-00068549 questions that kind of want you to
37pKNdi1-lI-00303-00068550-00068767 explain and talk through
37pKNdi1-lI-00304-00068768-00069221 your plans I will say in the past having
37pKNdi1-lI-00305-00069222-00069455 a project start from
37pKNdi1-lI-00306-00069456-00069659 slowly ideation has been a little
37pKNdi1-lI-00307-00069660-00069844 difficult to see through if people
37pKNdi1-lI-00308-00069845-00070019 haven't already kind of been chipping
37pKNdi1-lI-00309-00070020-00070217 away at it or have some some sort of
37pKNdi1-lI-00310-00070218-00070325 plan
37pKNdi1-lI-00311-00070326-00070493 um so we really do encourage people to
37pKNdi1-lI-00312-00070494-00070787 come in with kind of an idea that they
37pKNdi1-lI-00313-00070788-00071009 believe they can follow through on and
37pKNdi1-lI-00314-00071010-00071200 have connections with already because
37pKNdi1-lI-00315-00071201-00071543 seven months is not a very long time
37pKNdi1-lI-00316-00071544-00071741 um for a brand new idea with people that
37pKNdi1-lI-00317-00071742-00071903 you're already not in relationship with
37pKNdi1-lI-00318-00071904-00072059 sometimes it can be a little challenging
37pKNdi1-lI-00319-00072060-00072382 and on a producing side people take a
37pKNdi1-lI-00320-00072383-00072593 long time to contact you and follow back
37pKNdi1-lI-00321-00072594-00072809 into and to develop those relationships
37pKNdi1-lI-00322-00072810-00073037 so we do kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00323-00073038-00073091 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00324-00073092-00073306 want to encourage people to have an idea
37pKNdi1-lI-00325-00073307-00073517 that they feel connected to and have the
37pKNdi1-lI-00326-00073518-00073868 capacity to do well
37pKNdi1-lI-00327-00073869-00073943 [Music]
37pKNdi1-lI-00328-00073944-00074026 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00329-00074027-00074267 so yeah those are kind of that's the
37pKNdi1-lI-00330-00074268-00074585 rough outline of the program
37pKNdi1-lI-00331-00074586-00074794 um I would love any questions anybody
37pKNdi1-lI-00332-00074795-00074963 has
37pKNdi1-lI-00333-00074964-00075431 or just statement
37pKNdi1-lI-00334-00075432-00075713 I have a question if you could go back
37pKNdi1-lI-00335-00075714-00076116 to the slide of requisites
37pKNdi1-lI-00336-00076117-00076549 [Music]
37pKNdi1-lI-00337-00076550-00076811 he wasn't this one
37pKNdi1-lI-00338-00076812-00077117 um yeah I just wanted uh to know how
37pKNdi1-lI-00339-00077118-00077309 would you like what is this question
37pKNdi1-lI-00340-00077310-00077550 really getting at in terms of the um
37pKNdi1-lI-00341-00077551-00078059 have not been recognized by the circle
37pKNdi1-lI-00342-00078060-00078275 um what does recognition look like and
37pKNdi1-lI-00343-00078276-00078550 like what is really at the heart of that
37pKNdi1-lI-00344-00078551-00078749 question
37pKNdi1-lI-00345-00078750-00078965 for sure thank you for that
37pKNdi1-lI-00346-00078966-00079276 um so in terms of recognition thinking
37pKNdi1-lI-00347-00079277-00079469 about like any grants you've received
37pKNdi1-lI-00348-00079470-00079781 for doing film work any places that
37pKNdi1-lI-00349-00079782-00079919 you've screened film work or any
37pKNdi1-lI-00350-00079920-00080081 projects that you were a part of that
37pKNdi1-lI-00351-00080082-00080321 had been screened in places
37pKNdi1-lI-00352-00080322-00080500 um it doesn't necessarily I think the
37pKNdi1-lI-00353-00080501-00080806 the con the idea is to show that you've
37pKNdi1-lI-00354-00080807-00080987 been doing this work and that it's been
37pKNdi1-lI-00355-00080988-00081335 uh consistent and that um it's not kind
37pKNdi1-lI-00356-00081336-00081509 of a hobby that you do in between other
37pKNdi1-lI-00357-00081510-00081712 things and it kind of is your primary
37pKNdi1-lI-00358-00081713-00081850 interest
37pKNdi1-lI-00359-00081851-00082000 um so that's kind of the the idea around
37pKNdi1-lI-00360-00082001-00082175 the recognition portion so just to show
37pKNdi1-lI-00361-00082176-00082379 that you've been doing the work that you
37pKNdi1-lI-00362-00082380-00083023 said you were interested in
37pKNdi1-lI-00363-00083024-00083476 thank you
37pKNdi1-lI-00364-00083477-00083947 hello hi
37pKNdi1-lI-00365-00083948-00084376 I um I have a question in regards to
37pKNdi1-lI-00366-00084377-00084508 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00367-00084509-00084688 [Music]
37pKNdi1-lI-00368-00084689-00085188 on a documentary at SPN I think it was
37pKNdi1-lI-00369-00085189-00085493 2014. does that eliminate me from being
37pKNdi1-lI-00370-00085494-00085721 in this project
37pKNdi1-lI-00371-00085722-00085937 um you cut out on part of it besides you
37pKNdi1-lI-00372-00085938-00086105 worked on a documentary that was filmed
37pKNdi1-lI-00373-00086106-00086303 at ESPN in 2014
37pKNdi1-lI-00374-00086304-00086567 oh yeah that is correct okay
37pKNdi1-lI-00375-00086568-00086723 um no you're not disqualified at all you
37pKNdi1-lI-00376-00086724-00086855 can still apply and you can probably
37pKNdi1-lI-00377-00086856-00087088 also use that as a reference to some of
37pKNdi1-lI-00378-00087089-00087497 the work that you've done okay thank you
37pKNdi1-lI-00379-00087498-00087821 hi I have a question yeah
37pKNdi1-lI-00380-00087822-00088037 see my question is I think you are
37pKNdi1-lI-00381-00088038-00088367 asking people to come in and have a idea
37pKNdi1-lI-00382-00088368-00088685 and make a documentary C to five seven
37pKNdi1-lI-00383-00088686-00088882 minutes
37pKNdi1-lI-00384-00088883-00089123 but to make a documentary requires a
37pKNdi1-lI-00385-00089124-00089321 learning also for some people because if
37pKNdi1-lI-00386-00089322-00089567 I do not know anything about filming
37pKNdi1-lI-00387-00089568-00090041 without learning I can't make it
37pKNdi1-lI-00388-00090042-00090376 yeah so for um for New Angle fellows is
37pKNdi1-lI-00389-00090377-00090647 geared towards we say more advanced
37pKNdi1-lI-00390-00090648-00090923 filmmakers we do have programs at spnn
37pKNdi1-lI-00391-00090924-00091091 that teach the basics of camera
37pKNdi1-lI-00392-00091092-00091468 operation video editing and we have some
37pKNdi1-lI-00393-00091469-00091715 other opportunities for that the a lot
37pKNdi1-lI-00394-00091716-00091888 of the program support for this
37pKNdi1-lI-00395-00091889-00092129 documentary is more so about
37pKNdi1-lI-00396-00092130-00092206 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00397-00092207-00092447 finding a community bringing in artists
37pKNdi1-lI-00398-00092448-00092573 that can help with like story
37pKNdi1-lI-00399-00092574-00092812 construction and kind of build upon um
37pKNdi1-lI-00400-00092813-00092981 some basic film skills that have already
37pKNdi1-lI-00401-00092982-00093112 been had because we don't really
37pKNdi1-lI-00402-00093113-00093431 dedicate a lot of instruction time to so
37pKNdi1-lI-00403-00093432-00093809 I see editing and Camera usage so yeah
37pKNdi1-lI-00404-00093810-00093929 but I would strongly encourage you
37pKNdi1-lI-00405-00093930-00094138 encourage anybody who is interested and
37pKNdi1-lI-00406-00094139-00094288 doesn't have any experience yet to apply
37pKNdi1-lI-00407-00094289-00094535 to the docu fellowship or our Spotlight
37pKNdi1-lI-00408-00094536-00094799 shorts that kind of have inter
37pKNdi1-lI-00409-00094800-00095035 um people work on those that have uh
37pKNdi1-lI-00410-00095036-00095350 varying levels of experience and kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00411-00095351-00095737 work in teams in that way too
37pKNdi1-lI-00412-00095738-00096053 I have an additional question yes I
37pKNdi1-lI-00413-00096054-00096287 wanted to find out would it be all right
37pKNdi1-lI-00414-00096288-00096550 if I actually use software that I
37pKNdi1-lI-00415-00096551-00096743 actually are already working on like say
37pKNdi1-lI-00416-00096744-00096862 for instance
37pKNdi1-lI-00417-00096863-00097055 um I'm very familiar with working with
37pKNdi1-lI-00418-00097056-00097379 um Final Cut 10. and I have that would I
37pKNdi1-lI-00419-00097380-00097673 be able to use that on my own
37pKNdi1-lI-00420-00097674-00097967 and then submit
37pKNdi1-lI-00421-00097968-00098165 yeah for sure
37pKNdi1-lI-00422-00098166-00098447 um everybody in this uh especially for
37pKNdi1-lI-00423-00098448-00098597 this one since we don't there will be
37pKNdi1-lI-00424-00098598-00098759 some instruction time I think geared
37pKNdi1-lI-00425-00098760-00098999 towards like editing as a skill set
37pKNdi1-lI-00426-00099000-00099365 versus like editing on specific software
37pKNdi1-lI-00427-00099366-00099556 um and so everybody's open to using
37pKNdi1-lI-00428-00099557-00099659 whatever they feel comfortable with
37pKNdi1-lI-00429-00099660-00099965 whether that's Da Vinci Final Cut movie
37pKNdi1-lI-00430-00099966-00100181 Whatever whatever you feel comfortable
37pKNdi1-lI-00431-00100182-00100282 on
37pKNdi1-lI-00432-00100283-00100499 um I will say SPN staff as a whole has
37pKNdi1-lI-00433-00100500-00100679 more so has more resources and
37pKNdi1-lI-00434-00100680-00100894 experience with Adobe Premiere than
37pKNdi1-lI-00435-00100895-00101129 anything but it's not impossible for us
37pKNdi1-lI-00436-00101130-00101309 to also offer support in that area just
37pKNdi1-lI-00437-00101310-00101494 wanted to put that out there
37pKNdi1-lI-00438-00101495-00102451 thank you
37pKNdi1-lI-00439-00102452-00103021 any other questions
37pKNdi1-lI-00440-00103022-00103318 so if nobody is asking a question then
37pKNdi1-lI-00441-00103319-00103482 I'm curious
37pKNdi1-lI-00442-00103483-00103840 that when you started this program
37pKNdi1-lI-00443-00103841-00104165 what was your skill level at that time
37pKNdi1-lI-00444-00104166-00104308 yeah
37pKNdi1-lI-00445-00104309-00104477 um so
37pKNdi1-lI-00446-00104478-00104692 when I started facilitating last year
37pKNdi1-lI-00447-00104693-00104878 last year was my first year
37pKNdi1-lI-00448-00104879-00105178 um I've been doing film for about
37pKNdi1-lI-00449-00105179-00105419 six years in total
37pKNdi1-lI-00450-00105420-00105634 um mostly client work mostly on the
37pKNdi1-lI-00451-00105635-00105827 production side Less on the creative
37pKNdi1-lI-00452-00105828-00105958 side
37pKNdi1-lI-00453-00105959-00106157 um and my my own personal artistic
37pKNdi1-lI-00454-00106158-00106360 practice I've done more creative pieces
37pKNdi1-lI-00455-00106361-00106595 but when I had done the program when I
37pKNdi1-lI-00456-00106596-00106751 went through the program in 2019 that
37pKNdi1-lI-00457-00106752-00107033 was my first time working through a
37pKNdi1-lI-00458-00107033-00107339 documentary or idea of my own
37pKNdi1-lI-00459-00107340-00107549 um and so since then I've taught a
37pKNdi1-lI-00460-00107550-00107836 couple other variations of film film
37pKNdi1-lI-00461-00107838-00108077 classes and things like that so I would
37pKNdi1-lI-00462-00108078-00108454 say creatively I have more experience in
37pKNdi1-lI-00463-00108455-00108827 commercial and non-profit video work
37pKNdi1-lI-00464-00108828-00109151 that I would strictly documentary work
37pKNdi1-lI-00465-00109152-00109360 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00466-00109361-00109673 so then what was the change in your
37pKNdi1-lI-00467-00109674-00109913 skill level when you attend that program
37pKNdi1-lI-00468-00109914-00110369 from the early what you had already
37pKNdi1-lI-00469-00110370-00110434 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00470-00110435-00110686 I think for me coming into the program
37pKNdi1-lI-00471-00110688-00110951 in 2019 when I when I when I was a
37pKNdi1-lI-00472-00110952-00111365 fellow the biggest thing was
37pKNdi1-lI-00473-00111366-00111707 I didn't have ever have time that I felt
37pKNdi1-lI-00474-00111708-00112013 was designated for creating my own
37pKNdi1-lI-00475-00112014-00112175 project because I had came out of
37pKNdi1-lI-00476-00112176-00112366 college and went directly into the field
37pKNdi1-lI-00477-00112367-00112540 and so it was a lot of like client work
37pKNdi1-lI-00478-00112541-00112708 and Commercial works I never had
37pKNdi1-lI-00479-00112709-00112954 designated time or structured time to
37pKNdi1-lI-00480-00112955-00113158 really work on my own idea and the
37pKNdi1-lI-00481-00113159-00113345 fellowship really provided that and it
37pKNdi1-lI-00482-00113346-00113549 provided support and some financial
37pKNdi1-lI-00483-00113550-00113825 support to even take off work or
37pKNdi1-lI-00484-00113826-00114040 dedicate more time to to completing my
37pKNdi1-lI-00485-00114041-00114263 own ideas
37pKNdi1-lI-00486-00114264-00114539 so what is your dream what you want to
37pKNdi1-lI-00487-00114540-00114815 become or want to do
37pKNdi1-lI-00488-00114816-00115151 um well I love teaching
37pKNdi1-lI-00489-00115152-00115351 um I love teaching I love helping people
37pKNdi1-lI-00490-00115352-00115643 find how they best communicate and best
37pKNdi1-lI-00491-00115644-00115889 uh best work through their own artistic
37pKNdi1-lI-00492-00115890-00116086 practice so as a facilitator that is
37pKNdi1-lI-00493-00116088-00116290 kind of my main intention
37pKNdi1-lI-00494-00116291-00116477 um I will say a lot of the people who
37pKNdi1-lI-00495-00116478-00116639 come through the program I am
37pKNdi1-lI-00496-00116640-00116819 technically I'm peers with not even
37pKNdi1-lI-00497-00116820-00117065 technically I'm peers with and often see
37pKNdi1-lI-00498-00117066-00117239 in my personal life and like out in the
37pKNdi1-lI-00499-00117240-00117466 field and doing amazing work and so I
37pKNdi1-lI-00500-00117467-00117743 think of my role as to facilitate the
37pKNdi1-lI-00501-00117744-00118007 space that was offered up to me as well
37pKNdi1-lI-00502-00118008-00118175 so it's not a space where I come in
37pKNdi1-lI-00503-00118176-00118378 thinking that like I know everything and
37pKNdi1-lI-00504-00118379-00118636 I'm here to teach everybody everything
37pKNdi1-lI-00505-00118638-00118804 um I think it's a the cohort structure I
37pKNdi1-lI-00506-00118805-00118978 love because it allows people to learn
37pKNdi1-lI-00507-00118979-00119152 from each other bring their own
37pKNdi1-lI-00508-00119153-00119351 experiences to the space to make it
37pKNdi1-lI-00509-00119352-00119536 better and also bringing in the visiting
37pKNdi1-lI-00510-00119538-00119860 artists who are uh more experience in
37pKNdi1-lI-00511-00119861-00120047 their field specifically to also offer
37pKNdi1-lI-00512-00120048-00120316 up their expertise so it is an idea of
37pKNdi1-lI-00513-00120317-00120586 communal learning
37pKNdi1-lI-00514-00120588-00120797 anybody asking any question please
37pKNdi1-lI-00515-00120798-00120984 interrupt us so that
37pKNdi1-lI-00516-00120985-00121360 it doesn't I have a question okay but
37pKNdi1-lI-00517-00121361-00121540 I've been asking questions so I don't
37pKNdi1-lI-00518-00121541-00121889 know if somebody can think of yes go
37pKNdi1-lI-00519-00121890-00122290 um so yeah the okay so I guess this uh
37pKNdi1-lI-00520-00122291-00122513 perhaps more individual for for myself
37pKNdi1-lI-00521-00122514-00122777 but like as someone who has gone through
37pKNdi1-lI-00522-00122778-00123184 talk you and Spotlight series
37pKNdi1-lI-00523-00123185-00123395 um like New Angle Fells just feels like
37pKNdi1-lI-00524-00123396-00123713 the path line the pathway that I've been
37pKNdi1-lI-00525-00123714-00123815 following
37pKNdi1-lI-00526-00123816-00124078 but I haven't really gotten the chance
37pKNdi1-lI-00527-00124079-00124397 to do documentary work outside of those
37pKNdi1-lI-00528-00124398-00124565 spaces
37pKNdi1-lI-00529-00124566-00124781 um I work on other Productions
37pKNdi1-lI-00530-00124782-00124852 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00531-00124853-00125134 sets and stuff but uh I think that's
37pKNdi1-lI-00532-00125135-00125321 kind of like that that difficulty of
37pKNdi1-lI-00533-00125322-00125554 being an emerging filmmaker is that the
37pKNdi1-lI-00534-00125555-00125771 skill my skills technical skills might
37pKNdi1-lI-00535-00125772-00126065 not be up to par with what's needed for
37pKNdi1-lI-00536-00126066-00126304 professional uh and commercial
37pKNdi1-lI-00537-00126305-00126701 production but also I have not received
37pKNdi1-lI-00538-00126702-00127097 any grants or supports to be able to do
37pKNdi1-lI-00539-00127098-00127360 this work more committedly outside of
37pKNdi1-lI-00540-00127361-00127613 like opportunities that are paid even if
37pKNdi1-lI-00541-00127614-00127804 in small stipends
37pKNdi1-lI-00542-00127805-00127978 um I don't know if I'm sure what if I'm
37pKNdi1-lI-00543-00127979-00128128 coming across with that but so it's just
37pKNdi1-lI-00544-00128129-00128423 kind of like a frustrating situation and
37pKNdi1-lI-00545-00128424-00128627 I just want to be able to if you have
37pKNdi1-lI-00546-00128628-00128854 any feedback or advice on how can I
37pKNdi1-lI-00547-00128855-00129101 position myself and demonstrate ongoing
37pKNdi1-lI-00548-00129102-00129493 commitments to this pathway even as
37pKNdi1-lI-00549-00129494-00129797 opportunities are not necessarily
37pKNdi1-lI-00550-00129798-00130025 um like you know being presented
37pKNdi1-lI-00551-00130026-00130234 yeah for sure um and you said they're
37pKNdi1-lI-00552-00130235-00130451 out there people who have done Spotlight
37pKNdi1-lI-00553-00130452-00130613 shorts and Doc you are definitely
37pKNdi1-lI-00554-00130614-00130799 encouraged to apply because it is kind
37pKNdi1-lI-00555-00130800-00131093 of a through line that we created as pnn
37pKNdi1-lI-00556-00131094-00131273 to help people at every stage so that
37pKNdi1-lI-00557-00131274-00131447 does uh definitely help and show
37pKNdi1-lI-00558-00131448-00131693 commitment to past works and things like
37pKNdi1-lI-00559-00131694-00131909 that one second okay I'm kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00560-00131910-00132083 sneezing happened
37pKNdi1-lI-00561-00132084-00132143 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00562-00132144-00132502 so it does show a commitment in that way
37pKNdi1-lI-00563-00132503-00132673 um I would say
37pKNdi1-lI-00564-00132674-00132928 documentary film and filmwork in general
37pKNdi1-lI-00565-00132929-00133271 in the cities a lot of people get their
37pKNdi1-lI-00566-00133272-00133445 foot in the door by doing commercial
37pKNdi1-lI-00567-00133446-00133714 work and freelance work
37pKNdi1-lI-00568-00133715-00133901 um and you kind of build up the
37pKNdi1-lI-00569-00133902-00134183 technical skills in that way
37pKNdi1-lI-00570-00134184-00134314 um and I think creativity is something
37pKNdi1-lI-00571-00134315-00134549 that does isn't contained to a job or a
37pKNdi1-lI-00572-00134550-00134801 specific area so it's like while
37pKNdi1-lI-00573-00134802-00134975 building up those skills it gives you
37pKNdi1-lI-00574-00134976-00135161 the confidence to be like Oh I'm gonna
37pKNdi1-lI-00575-00135162-00135407 make this short piece that's of my own
37pKNdi1-lI-00576-00135408-00135749 or I'm gonna start building up a demo
37pKNdi1-lI-00577-00135750-00135935 reel that allows me to apply for things
37pKNdi1-lI-00578-00135936-00136157 that shows that this is the caliber
37pKNdi1-lI-00579-00136158-00136307 airport I can do it this is the kind of
37pKNdi1-lI-00580-00136308-00136547 work I've been doing
37pKNdi1-lI-00581-00136548-00136690 um so it's kind of one of those things
37pKNdi1-lI-00582-00136691-00136883 where
37pKNdi1-lI-00583-00136884-00137101 oftentimes in grant opportunities
37pKNdi1-lI-00584-00137102-00137411 finding a way to articulate
37pKNdi1-lI-00585-00137412-00137651 that you've been in the field but just
37pKNdi1-lI-00586-00137652-00137909 on the opposite side of the track in
37pKNdi1-lI-00587-00137910-00138107 terms of creativity and intention and
37pKNdi1-lI-00588-00138108-00138347 wanting to and wanting to Pivot and have
37pKNdi1-lI-00589-00138348-00138628 more access to
37pKNdi1-lI-00590-00138629-00138995 um the creative funding and more uh the
37pKNdi1-lI-00591-00138996-00139216 more opportunities like that
37pKNdi1-lI-00592-00139217-00139433 so I think that's also something I even
37pKNdi1-lI-00593-00139434-00139607 for myself personally in Grants if I'm
37pKNdi1-lI-00594-00139608-00139769 ever trying to do something that are
37pKNdi1-lI-00595-00139770-00139925 apply for something that I don't feel
37pKNdi1-lI-00596-00139926-00140225 like I've done technically
37pKNdi1-lI-00597-00140226-00140375 um just articulating that this is what
37pKNdi1-lI-00598-00140376-00140531 you have been doing this is how you feel
37pKNdi1-lI-00599-00140532-00140675 it supports the work that you're trying
37pKNdi1-lI-00600-00140676-00140952 to do
37pKNdi1-lI-00601-00140953-00141154 I just
37pKNdi1-lI-00602-00141155-00141545 um quickly weigh in yeah swell
37pKNdi1-lI-00603-00141546-00141845 um this is yeah everyone Bonnie works at
37pKNdi1-lI-00604-00141846-00142078 ESPNN and she is what's your technical
37pKNdi1-lI-00605-00142079-00142313 role bunny what's my what's my What My
37pKNdi1-lI-00606-00142314-00142583 Title um associate director there you go
37pKNdi1-lI-00607-00142584-00142799 Barney's important y'all she has more
37pKNdi1-lI-00608-00142800-00143051 answers than I do for a lot of things
37pKNdi1-lI-00609-00143052-00143189 just only because I've been around for a
37pKNdi1-lI-00610-00143190-00143447 very long
37pKNdi1-lI-00611-00143448-00143621 um you've set way more skills than I
37pKNdi1-lI-00612-00143622-00143807 have in the areas
37pKNdi1-lI-00613-00143808-00144040 um but so uh yeah I just wanted to weigh
37pKNdi1-lI-00614-00144041-00144316 in like a lot of the I think around the
37pKNdi1-lI-00615-00144317-00144557 question that you were asking as well
37pKNdi1-lI-00616-00144558-00144923 it's more about wanting the the
37pKNdi1-lI-00617-00144924-00145139 um recognition in the field is more
37pKNdi1-lI-00618-00145140-00145343 about making sure you aren't past
37pKNdi1-lI-00619-00145344-00145625 emerging versus that you're not yet
37pKNdi1-lI-00620-00145626-00146014 emerging so I think you are in a space
37pKNdi1-lI-00621-00146015-00146375 where I would encourage you to apply so
37pKNdi1-lI-00622-00146376-00146585 um if that helps you answer that part of
37pKNdi1-lI-00623-00146586-00146939 that question like we uh Zinnia will I
37pKNdi1-lI-00624-00146940-00147233 say we Zinnia will
37pKNdi1-lI-00625-00147234-00147425 um help walk you through doing
37pKNdi1-lI-00626-00147426-00147599 applications for some different grants
37pKNdi1-lI-00627-00147600-00147821 and that's a part of this process and
37pKNdi1-lI-00628-00147822-00148097 this program so we don't we don't expect
37pKNdi1-lI-00629-00148098-00148373 that you will have gotten many grants up
37pKNdi1-lI-00630-00148374-00148631 to this point so
37pKNdi1-lI-00631-00148632-00148816 um and the technical skills that you are
37pKNdi1-lI-00632-00148817-00149081 building as you're helping out on other
37pKNdi1-lI-00633-00149082-00149347 folks's Productions and stuff
37pKNdi1-lI-00634-00149348-00149578 that's great and then you'll be able to
37pKNdi1-lI-00635-00149579-00149866 bring those into learning more about
37pKNdi1-lI-00636-00149867-00150089 your own process of Storytelling as
37pKNdi1-lI-00637-00150090-00150395 Dania was alluding to earlier so I just
37pKNdi1-lI-00638-00150396-00150533 wanted to clarify that
37pKNdi1-lI-00639-00150534-00151278 foreign
37pKNdi1-lI-00640-00151279-00151577 the minimum and the maximum amount of
37pKNdi1-lI-00641-00151578-00151757 time for this
37pKNdi1-lI-00642-00151758-00152166 um production piece
37pKNdi1-lI-00643-00152167-00152471 yeah the minimum is three minutes of a
37pKNdi1-lI-00644-00152472-00152801 sample or a trailer or a teaser
37pKNdi1-lI-00645-00152802-00153016 um or or whatever is defined as what's
37pKNdi1-lI-00646-00153017-00153257 best for you to move to like for the
37pKNdi1-lI-00647-00153258-00153490 next step or a completed piece
37pKNdi1-lI-00648-00153491-00153778 um so there is no real maximum there are
37pKNdi1-lI-00649-00153779-00154066 people who have pitched to do series
37pKNdi1-lI-00650-00154067-00154240 um who want to use this to start a
37pKNdi1-lI-00651-00154241-00154511 docu-series and so for them they provide
37pKNdi1-lI-00652-00154512-00154726 the first 10 minutes of the first
37pKNdi1-lI-00653-00154727-00154901 episode like that's the part that's
37pKNdi1-lI-00654-00154902-00155033 completed
37pKNdi1-lI-00655-00155034-00155273 um so it is it's very flexible
37pKNdi1-lI-00656-00155274-00155483 okay but the minimum is three three
37pKNdi1-lI-00657-00155484-00155752 minutes
37pKNdi1-lI-00658-00155753-00155969 see you're talking of minimum three
37pKNdi1-lI-00659-00155970-00156251 minutes that means particularly a scene
37pKNdi1-lI-00660-00156252-00156563 or two or three scenes and writing and
37pKNdi1-lI-00661-00156564-00156773 making one scene which is really
37pKNdi1-lI-00662-00156774-00156964 effective which cause emotional and
37pKNdi1-lI-00663-00156965-00157252 thoughtful provoking scenes is very very
37pKNdi1-lI-00664-00157253-00157378 difficult
37pKNdi1-lI-00665-00157379-00157625 you have to learn first what are the
37pKNdi1-lI-00666-00157626-00157913 emotions how to create them by telling
37pKNdi1-lI-00667-00157914-00158176 in action and I tell you I have been
37pKNdi1-lI-00668-00158177-00158369 learning this whole thing for last five
37pKNdi1-lI-00669-00158370-00158578 years and I want to make a feature film
37pKNdi1-lI-00670-00158579-00158914 and I find it writing a simple scene
37pKNdi1-lI-00671-00158915-00159269 three minutes is very very difficult
37pKNdi1-lI-00672-00159270-00159581 I would agree
37pKNdi1-lI-00673-00159582-00159766 I mean a lot of people think that we are
37pKNdi1-lI-00674-00159767-00160001 watching the movie and just we can
37pKNdi1-lI-00675-00160002-00160283 understand and we enjoy but boy creating
37pKNdi1-lI-00676-00160284-00160528 a scene is so hard
37pKNdi1-lI-00677-00160529-00160781 you have to understand a very high level
37pKNdi1-lI-00678-00160782-00161033 to create something beautifully
37pKNdi1-lI-00679-00161034-00161261 I'm not talking normal things and I mean
37pKNdi1-lI-00680-00161262-00161440 just for fun but
37pKNdi1-lI-00681-00161441-00161783 to produce a thought and Emotion by a
37pKNdi1-lI-00682-00161784-00161951 scene which tells something about human
37pKNdi1-lI-00683-00161952-00162293 being is very hard
37pKNdi1-lI-00684-00162294-00162449 very true
37pKNdi1-lI-00685-00162450-00162689 can't be for that oh do you have a
37pKNdi1-lI-00686-00162690-00162845 question
37pKNdi1-lI-00687-00162846-00163228 yeah uh so my idea I haven't shot
37pKNdi1-lI-00688-00163229-00163511 anything yet for so to have the three
37pKNdi1-lI-00689-00163512-00163690 minute you need you said you have you
37pKNdi1-lI-00690-00163691-00163925 need a three minute minimum of like a
37pKNdi1-lI-00691-00163926-00164171 team here yeah for the final product
37pKNdi1-lI-00692-00164172-00164345 after the seven minutes after seven
37pKNdi1-lI-00693-00164346-00164651 months for the final product okay thanks
37pKNdi1-lI-00694-00164652-00164783 yeah
37pKNdi1-lI-00695-00164784-00164963 so yeah to come into the program with
37pKNdi1-lI-00696-00164964-00165137 your idea is that required that you've
37pKNdi1-lI-00697-00165138-00165347 shot anything
37pKNdi1-lI-00698-00165348-00165666 thank you
37pKNdi1-lI-00699-00165667-00165904 what is the difference between feature
37pKNdi1-lI-00700-00165905-00166169 film and documentary
37pKNdi1-lI-00701-00166170-00166433 like you mean narrative narrative wise
37pKNdi1-lI-00702-00166434-00166714 yeah a feature film which we see a movie
37pKNdi1-lI-00703-00166715-00167057 and documentary what is the basic
37pKNdi1-lI-00704-00167058-00167278 difference between the two
37pKNdi1-lI-00705-00167279-00167537 I think I think what you're asking is
37pKNdi1-lI-00706-00167538-00167807 like documentary is something that is
37pKNdi1-lI-00707-00167808-00168149 technically unscripted and feature film
37pKNdi1-lI-00708-00168150-00168383 or a narrative film is something that is
37pKNdi1-lI-00709-00168384-00168640 scripted and somebody has like taken a
37pKNdi1-lI-00710-00168641-00169043 lot of time to write scripts yeah yeah
37pKNdi1-lI-00711-00169044-00169699 foreign
37pKNdi1-lI-00712-00169700-00169901 [Music]
37pKNdi1-lI-00713-00169902-00170219 I think document is easier to make than
37pKNdi1-lI-00714-00170220-00170399 a feature film
37pKNdi1-lI-00715-00170400-00170566 I don't know about that
37pKNdi1-lI-00716-00170567-00170839 I don't know about that neither
37pKNdi1-lI-00717-00170840-00171221 it's just a difficult both are different
37pKNdi1-lI-00718-00171222-00171395 creatures but the same amount of
37pKNdi1-lI-00719-00171396-00171659 technical difficulties as well as like
37pKNdi1-lI-00720-00171660-00171875 as you say the scripted and non-scripted
37pKNdi1-lI-00721-00171876-00172043 even though something's not scripted
37pKNdi1-lI-00722-00172044-00172247 it's still very difficult because it has
37pKNdi1-lI-00723-00172248-00172576 to be concisive and
37pKNdi1-lI-00724-00172577-00172690 um
37pKNdi1-lI-00725-00172691-00172961 with that being concise it has to be
37pKNdi1-lI-00726-00172962-00173189 congruent so there's a lot of factors
37pKNdi1-lI-00727-00173190-00173326 that still are
37pKNdi1-lI-00728-00173327-00173681 be um beginning middle and end and
37pKNdi1-lI-00729-00173682-00173933 because of today the way people look at
37pKNdi1-lI-00730-00173934-00174349 media concentration uh people about
37pKNdi1-lI-00731-00174350-00174659 three to four minutes
37pKNdi1-lI-00732-00174660-00175163 is about the time that people uh
37pKNdi1-lI-00733-00175164-00175463 actually are you can hold their
37pKNdi1-lI-00734-00175464-00175799 attention so again you can do longer
37pKNdi1-lI-00735-00175800-00176026 things but three to four minutes you're
37pKNdi1-lI-00736-00176027-00176188 getting middle of the end the next three
37pKNdi1-lI-00737-00176189-00176393 or four minutes beginning middle and end
37pKNdi1-lI-00738-00176394-00176573 you have to keep telling small stories
37pKNdi1-lI-00739-00176574-00176849 in short amount of times but um what I
37pKNdi1-lI-00740-00176850-00177047 was trying to get at was um people's
37pKNdi1-lI-00741-00177048-00177371 concentration spam it's very short so it
37pKNdi1-lI-00742-00177372-00177676 is it is possible to do things in small
37pKNdi1-lI-00743-00177677-00177869 amount of times but it's the way it's
37pKNdi1-lI-00744-00177870-00178301 constructed yeah sure
37pKNdi1-lI-00745-00178302-00178583 um thank you for that uh are there any
37pKNdi1-lI-00746-00178584-00178913 other questions also I will um I can
37pKNdi1-lI-00747-00178914-00179164 I'll put my email in the chat if you
37pKNdi1-lI-00748-00179165-00179357 have any uh questions about your
37pKNdi1-lI-00749-00179358-00179549 application
37pKNdi1-lI-00750-00179550-00179723 um or anything like that please feel
37pKNdi1-lI-00751-00179724-00179945 free to reach out the deadline is on the
37pKNdi1-lI-00752-00179946-00180119 third
37pKNdi1-lI-00753-00180120-00180611 um just for reference
37pKNdi1-lI-00754-00180612-00180833 I think that's my email yeah that's my
37pKNdi1-lI-00755-00180834-00181093 email
37pKNdi1-lI-00756-00181094-00181337 uh but yeah if you have any like any
37pKNdi1-lI-00757-00181338-00181457 personal questions feel free to like
37pKNdi1-lI-00758-00181458-00181673 just reach out and uh or individualized
37pKNdi1-lI-00759-00181674-00181852 questions about your project or anything
37pKNdi1-lI-00760-00181853-00181997 like that
37pKNdi1-lI-00761-00181998-00182164 um and also Bonnie's a great resource as
37pKNdi1-lI-00762-00182165-00182333 well
37pKNdi1-lI-00763-00182334-00182723 um but thank you all for coming out and
37pKNdi1-lI-00764-00182724-00182921 this will be available I'm going to post
37pKNdi1-lI-00765-00182922-00183059 this on the website so if you know
37pKNdi1-lI-00766-00183060-00183323 anybody who missed the info session
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3rFWzDmZs24-00000-00000050-00000353 Muslims Arabic Muslim are people who
3rFWzDmZs24-00001-00000354-00000626 follow or practice Islam a monotheistic
3rFWzDmZs24-00002-00000627-00000947 Abrahamic religion Muslims consider the
3rFWzDmZs24-00003-00000948-00001177 Quran their holy book to be the verbatim
3rFWzDmZs24-00004-00001178-00001418 Word of God as revealed to the Islamic
3rFWzDmZs24-00005-00001419-00001666 prophet and Messenger Muhammad the
3rFWzDmZs24-00006-00001667-00001907 majority of Muslims also follow the
3rFWzDmZs24-00007-00001907-00002110 teachings and practices of Muhammad
3rFWzDmZs24-00008-00002111-00002312 Sunnah as recorded in traditional
3rFWzDmZs24-00009-00002313-00002659 accounts hadith Muslim is an Arabic word
3rFWzDmZs24-00010-00002660-00003005 meaning submitter to God the beliefs of
3rFWzDmZs24-00011-00003006-00003247 Muslims include that God Arabic all
3rFWzDmZs24-00012-00003248-00003479 Allah is eternal transcendent and
3rFWzDmZs24-00013-00003479-00003697 absolutely one Tod that God is
3rFWzDmZs24-00014-00003698-00003926 incomparable self-sustaining and neither
3rFWzDmZs24-00015-00003927-00004190 beget nor was begotten that Islam is the
3rFWzDmZs24-00016-00004191-00004406 complete and universal version of a
3rFWzDmZs24-00017-00004407-00004622 primordial faith that has been revealed
3rFWzDmZs24-00018-00004623-00004834 before through many prophets including
3rFWzDmZs24-00019-00004835-00005147 Abraham Ishmael Isaac Moses and Jesus
3rFWzDmZs24-00020-00005148-00005363 that these previous messages and
3rFWzDmZs24-00021-00005364-00005572 revelations have been partially changed
3rFWzDmZs24-00022-00005573-00005806 or corrupted over time tariffs and that
3rFWzDmZs24-00023-00005807-00005990 the Quran is the final unaltered
3rFWzDmZs24-00024-00005991-00006719 revelation from God final Testament
3rFWzDmZs24-00025-00006720-00007259 topic qualifier
3rFWzDmZs24-00026-00007261-00007518 the religious practices of Muslims are
3rFWzDmZs24-00027-00007519-00007752 enumerated in the five pillars of Islam
3rFWzDmZs24-00028-00007753-00008006 the declaration of faith Shahada daily
3rFWzDmZs24-00029-00008008-00008226 prayers salat fasting during the month
3rFWzDmZs24-00030-00008227-00008523 of Ramadan some alms giving zakat and
3rFWzDmZs24-00031-00008524-00008757 the pilgrimage to Mecca hatch at least
3rFWzDmZs24-00032-00008758-00008970 once in a lifetime to become a Muslim
3rFWzDmZs24-00033-00008971-00009225 and to convert to Islam it is essential
3rFWzDmZs24-00034-00009226-00009414 to utter the Shahada one of the five
3rFWzDmZs24-00035-00009415-00009672 pillars of Islam a declaration of faith
3rFWzDmZs24-00036-00009673-00009876 and trust that professes that there is
3rFWzDmZs24-00037-00009877-00010119 only one God Allah and that Muhammad as
3rFWzDmZs24-00038-00010120-00010239 God's messenger
3rFWzDmZs24-00039-00010240-00010530 it is a set statement normally recited
3rFWzDmZs24-00040-00010531-00010812 in Arabic layla allah llahu muhammadun
3rFWzDmZs24-00041-00010813-00011106 rasulullah layla ila al muhammadur
3rFWzDmZs24-00042-00011107-00011355 rasulu there is no god but Allah and
3rFWzDmZs24-00043-00011356-00011703 Muhammad as the Messenger of God in
3rFWzDmZs24-00044-00011704-00012009 Sunni Islam the Shahada has two parts
3rFWzDmZs24-00045-00012010-00012237 laila ha illallah there is no god but
3rFWzDmZs24-00046-00012238-00012453 God and Muhammad oon Rasul Allah
3rFWzDmZs24-00047-00012454-00012684 Muhammad as the Messenger of God which
3rFWzDmZs24-00048-00012685-00012882 are sometimes referred to as the first
3rFWzDmZs24-00049-00012883-00013176 Shahada and the second Shahada the first
3rFWzDmZs24-00050-00013177-00013397 statement of the Shahada is also known
3rFWzDmZs24-00051-00013399-00013616 as the Tali all in Shia Islam the
3rFWzDmZs24-00052-00013618-00013869 Shahada also has a third part a phrase
3rFWzDmZs24-00053-00013869-00014133 concerning Ali the first Shia Imam and
3rFWzDmZs24-00054-00014134-00014325 the fourth rasheed caliph of Sunni Islam
3rFWzDmZs24-00055-00014326-00014625 leave Leo all wha-la and wallah you law
3rFWzDmZs24-00056-00014626-00014880 which translates to Ali as the wali of
3rFWzDmZs24-00057-00014881-00015425 God
3rFWzDmZs24-00058-00015426-00015977 topic lexicology
3rFWzDmZs24-00059-00015978-00016363 the word Muslim Arabic M s LM IP a M s
3rFWzDmZs24-00060-00016365-00016622 LM English or is the active
3rFWzDmZs24-00061-00016623-00016823 participle of the same verb of which
3rFWzDmZs24-00062-00016824-00017054 Islam as a verbal noun based on the
3rFWzDmZs24-00063-00017055-00017384 trilateral SLM to be whole intact
3rFWzDmZs24-00064-00017385-00017777 a female adherent as a muslima Arabic MS
3rFWzDmZs24-00065-00017778-00018191 LM t also transliterated as muslimah the
3rFWzDmZs24-00066-00018192-00018476 plural form in arabic is muslim on MSL
3rFWzDmZs24-00067-00018477-00018698 m1 or Muslimin M s Elliman and its
3rFWzDmZs24-00068-00018699-00018980 feminine equivalent as Muslim at Emma's
3rFWzDmZs24-00069-00018981-00019190 oma the Arabic form Muslim on as the
3rFWzDmZs24-00070-00019191-00019522 stem IV participle of the trilateral SLM
3rFWzDmZs24-00071-00019523-00019901 the ordinary word in English as Muslim
3rFWzDmZs24-00072-00019902-00020288 it is sometimes transliterated as Muslim
3rFWzDmZs24-00073-00020289-00020564 which is an older spelling the word
3rFWzDmZs24-00074-00020565-00020843 muscleman persian ms Elmen alternatively
3rFWzDmZs24-00075-00020844-00021068 miss almond is a common equivalent for
3rFWzDmZs24-00076-00021069-00021316 muslim used in Central and South Asia
3rFWzDmZs24-00077-00021317-00021650 until at least the mid-1960s many
3rFWzDmZs24-00078-00021651-00021869 English language writers used the term
3rFWzDmZs24-00079-00021870-00022181 Mohammedans or Mohammedans although such
3rFWzDmZs24-00080-00022182-00022415 terms were not necessarily intended to
3rFWzDmZs24-00081-00022416-00022637 be pejorative Muslims argue that the
3rFWzDmZs24-00082-00022638-00022802 terms are offensive because they
3rFWzDmZs24-00083-00022803-00023006 allegedly imply that Muslims worship
3rFWzDmZs24-00084-00023007-00023344 Muhammad rather than God other obsolete
3rFWzDmZs24-00085-00023345-00023582 terms include Muslim it--and muslimists
3rFWzDmZs24-00086-00023583-00023878 muscleman muscleman persian msl men as a
3rFWzDmZs24-00087-00023879-00024113 synonym for muslim and is modified from
3rFWzDmZs24-00088-00024114-00024416 arabic it is the origin of the Spanish
3rFWzDmZs24-00089-00024417-00024653 word muscleman the dated German Musil
3rFWzDmZs24-00090-00024654-00024844 Minh the French word muscleman the
3rFWzDmZs24-00091-00024845-00025046 polish words mu salminen and muzzle
3rFWzDmZs24-00092-00025047-00025294 Manske the Portuguese word Mukul mano
3rFWzDmZs24-00093-00025295-00025547 the Italian word muscle mano or muscle
3rFWzDmZs24-00094-00025548-00025787 mano the Romanian word muscleman and the
3rFWzDmZs24-00095-00025788-00026018 Greek word muscle Manos all used for a
3rFWzDmZs24-00096-00026019-00026296 Muslim in English it was sometimes
3rFWzDmZs24-00097-00026297-00026525 spelled muscleman and has become archaic
3rFWzDmZs24-00098-00026526-00026644 in usage
3rFWzDmZs24-00099-00026645-00026912 apart from Persian Spanish polish
3rFWzDmZs24-00100-00026913-00027208 Portuguese Italian and Greek the term
3rFWzDmZs24-00101-00027210-00027404 could be found with obvious local
3rFWzDmZs24-00102-00027405-00027646 differences in Armenian dari Pashto
3rFWzDmZs24-00103-00027647-00027996 Perdue Hindi Bengali Marathi Punjabi
3rFWzDmZs24-00104-00027997-00028367 Turkish Kazakh Jews BEC Kyrgyz azhari
3rFWzDmZs24-00105-00028368-00028661 Maltese Hungarian Czech Bosnian
3rFWzDmZs24-00106-00028662-00028943 Bulgarian Russian Serbian Ukrainian
3rFWzDmZs24-00107-00028944-00029658 Romanian Dutch and Sanskrit
3rFWzDmZs24-00108-00029659-00030162 topic meaning
3rFWzDmZs24-00109-00030163-00030524 the Muslim philosopher eben Arabi said a
3rFWzDmZs24-00110-00030525-00030813 Muslim as a person who has dedicated his
3rFWzDmZs24-00111-00030814-00031230 worship exclusively to God Islam means
3rFWzDmZs24-00112-00031231-00031433 making one's religion and faith God's
3rFWzDmZs24-00113-00031435-00031970 alone
3rFWzDmZs24-00114-00031970-00032500 topic other prophets
3rFWzDmZs24-00115-00032501-00032773 the Quran describes many prophets and
3rFWzDmZs24-00116-00032774-00032947 messengers within Judaism and
3rFWzDmZs24-00117-00032948-00033112 Christianity and their respective
3rFWzDmZs24-00118-00033113-00033379 followers as Muslim Adam Noah Abraham
3rFWzDmZs24-00119-00033380-00033748 Ishmael Jacob Moses and Jesus and His
3rFWzDmZs24-00120-00033749-00033943 apostles are all considered to be
3rFWzDmZs24-00121-00033944-00034228 Muslims in the Quran the Quran states
3rFWzDmZs24-00122-00034229-00034441 that these men were Muslims because they
3rFWzDmZs24-00123-00034442-00034669 submitted to God preached his message
3rFWzDmZs24-00124-00034670-00034888 and upheld his values which included
3rFWzDmZs24-00125-00034889-00035152 praying charity fasting and pilgrimage
3rFWzDmZs24-00126-00035153-00035554 thus in Sura 352 of the Quran Jesus
3rFWzDmZs24-00127-00035555-00035845 disciples tell him we believe in God and
3rFWzDmZs24-00128-00035846-00036070 you be our witness that we are Muslims
3rFWzDmZs24-00129-00036071-00036484 wash Ahad be Ana Muslim on in Muslim
3rFWzDmZs24-00130-00036485-00036721 belief before the Quran God had given
3rFWzDmZs24-00131-00036722-00036979 the taurat torah to moses the zaboor
3rFWzDmZs24-00132-00036980-00037267 psalms to david and the angel gospel to
3rFWzDmZs24-00133-00037268-00037486 jesus who are all considered important
3rFWzDmZs24-00134-00037487-00038093 muslim prophets
3rFWzDmZs24-00135-00038094-00038646 topic demographics
3rFWzDmZs24-00136-00038647-00038852 the most populous muslim-majority
3rFWzDmZs24-00137-00038853-00039126 country as Indonesia home to twelve
3rFWzDmZs24-00138-00039127-00039318 point seven percent of the world's
3rFWzDmZs24-00139-00039319-00039576 Muslims followed by Pakistan eleven
3rFWzDmZs24-00140-00039577-00039832 point Oh percent Bangladesh nine point
3rFWzDmZs24-00141-00039833-00040065 two percent in Egypt four point nine
3rFWzDmZs24-00142-00040066-00040351 percent about twenty percent of the
3rFWzDmZs24-00143-00040352-00040554 world's Muslims lives in the Middle East
3rFWzDmZs24-00144-00040555-00040830 and North Africa sizable minorities are
3rFWzDmZs24-00145-00040831-00041055 also found in India China Russia
3rFWzDmZs24-00146-00041056-00041358 Ethiopia the Americas Australia and
3rFWzDmZs24-00147-00041359-00041614 parts of Europe the country with the
3rFWzDmZs24-00148-00041615-00041817 highest proportion of self-described
3rFWzDmZs24-00149-00041818-00042042 Muslims as a proportion of its total
3rFWzDmZs24-00150-00042043-00042357 population as Morocco converts and
3rFWzDmZs24-00151-00042358-00042537 immigrant communities are found in
3rFWzDmZs24-00152-00042538-00042918 almost every part of the world over 75
3rFWzDmZs24-00153-00042919-00043173 to 90 percent of Muslims are Sunni the
3rFWzDmZs24-00154-00043174-00043467 second and third largest sects Shia and
3rFWzDmZs24-00155-00043468-00043764 Ahmadiyya make up 10 to 20 percent and 1
3rFWzDmZs24-00156-00043765-00044136 percent respectively with about 1.8
3rFWzDmZs24-00157-00044137-00044473 billion followers 2015 almost a quarter
3rFWzDmZs24-00158-00044474-00044682 of Earth's population Islam as the
3rFWzDmZs24-00159-00044683-00044868 second largest and the fastest-growing
3rFWzDmZs24-00160-00044869-00045114 religion in the world due primarily to
3rFWzDmZs24-00161-00045115-00045357 the young age and high fertility rate of
3rFWzDmZs24-00162-00045358-00045657 Muslims with Muslim having a rate of 3.1
3rFWzDmZs24-00163-00045658-00045962 compared to the world average of 2.5
3rFWzDmZs24-00164-00045963-00046224 according to the same study religious
3rFWzDmZs24-00165-00046225-00046432 switching has no impact on Muslim
3rFWzDmZs24-00166-00046433-00046657 population since the number of people
3rFWzDmZs24-00167-00046658-00046857 who embrace Islam and those who leave
3rFWzDmZs24-00168-00046858-00047082 Islam are roughly equal a Pew Center
3rFWzDmZs24-00169-00047083-00047376 study in 2016 found that Muslims have
3rFWzDmZs24-00170-00047377-00047583 the highest number of adherents under
3rFWzDmZs24-00171-00047584-00047871 the age of 15 or 34 percent of the total
3rFWzDmZs24-00172-00047872-00048160 Muslim population of any major religion
3rFWzDmZs24-00173-00048161-00048436 while only 7 percent are aged 60 plus
3rFWzDmZs24-00174-00048437-00048639 the smallest percentage of any major
3rFWzDmZs24-00175-00048640-00048927 religion according to the same study
3rFWzDmZs24-00176-00048928-00049179 Muslims have the highest fertility rates
3rFWzDmZs24-00177-00049180-00049557 3.1 of any major religious group the
3rFWzDmZs24-00178-00049558-00049776 study also found that Muslims have the
3rFWzDmZs24-00179-00049777-00050017 lowest average levels of education after
3rFWzDmZs24-00180-00050018-00050280 Hindus with an average of 5 point 6
3rFWzDmZs24-00181-00050281-00050640 years of schooling about 36% of all
3rFWzDmZs24-00182-00050641-00050851 Muslims have no formal schooling and
3rFWzDmZs24-00183-00050852-00051076 Muslims have the lowest average levels
3rFWzDmZs24-00184-00051077-00051262 of higher education of any major
3rFWzDmZs24-00185-00051263-00051460 religious group with only 8 percent
3rFWzDmZs24-00186-00051461-00052238 having graduate and postgraduate degrees
3rFWzDmZs24-00187-00052239-00052844 topic Muslim dining etiquette
3rFWzDmZs24-00188-00052845-00053132 Muslims typically do not use a knife and
3rFWzDmZs24-00189-00053133-00053366 fork as is commonly done in most Western
3rFWzDmZs24-00190-00053366-00053566 countries instead they use their right
3rFWzDmZs24-00191-00053567-00053759 hand to scoop the food into their mouths
3rFWzDmZs24-00192-00053760-00053963 or use a piece of bread with their right
3rFWzDmZs24-00193-00053964-00054290 hand Islam holds that the left hand will
3rFWzDmZs24-00194-00054291-00054611 feed Shaitan Satan if used to consume
3rFWzDmZs24-00195-00054612-00054839 food and the religion discourages eating
3rFWzDmZs24-00196-00054840-00055525 with utensils or the left hand
3rFWzDmZs24-00197-00055526-00056116 topic see also
3rFWzDmZs24-00198-00056117-00056472 nondenominational Muslim Islamic schools
3rFWzDmZs24-00199-00056473-00056936 and branches Islamic toilet etiquette
3rFWzDmZs24-00200-00056937-00057475 Hamedan lists of Muslims Muslim holidays
3rFWzDmZs24-00201-00057476-00057865 Muslim world Moomin
3rFWzDmZs24-00202-00057866-00058378 kourin ISM equals equals notes
3rRiA2MEJuo-00000-00000003-00000193 yeah from the very beginning for 4dm it
3rRiA2MEJuo-00001-00000194-00000569 was important to to show that we don't
3rRiA2MEJuo-00002-00000570-00000821 perceive DM s position as a plan-b
3rRiA2MEJuo-00003-00000822-00001070 because I think this is the plan a to
3rRiA2MEJuo-00004-00001071-00001316 preserve the European project and that
3rRiA2MEJuo-00005-00001317-00001676 such TM is in opposition and doesn't
3rRiA2MEJuo-00006-00001677-00001892 share many other ideas which come from
3rRiA2MEJuo-00007-00001893-00002101 the camp which believes that a retreat
3rRiA2MEJuo-00008-00002102-00002348 to the nation-state or exiting of the
3rRiA2MEJuo-00009-00002349-00002705 eurozone could benefit progressive
3rRiA2MEJuo-00010-00002706-00002924 movements or a progressive government I
3rRiA2MEJuo-00011-00002925-00003137 think this is a dangerous illusion
3rRiA2MEJuo-00012-00003138-00003470 because you know I was born in a country
3rRiA2MEJuo-00013-00003471-00003845 which was called Yugoslavia and we had
3rRiA2MEJuo-00014-00003846-00004049 real existing socialism Yugoslavia
3rRiA2MEJuo-00015-00004050-00004222 Yugoslavia was part of the big
3rRiA2MEJuo-00016-00004223-00004411 non-alignment movement it held
3rRiA2MEJuo-00017-00004412-00004658 self-management it had one of the
3rRiA2MEJuo-00018-00004659-00004829 strongest armies one of the strongest
3rRiA2MEJuo-00019-00004830-00005081 diplomacy's in the whole world but you
3rRiA2MEJuo-00020-00005082-00005297 know why Yugoslavia failed not because
3rRiA2MEJuo-00021-00005298-00005459 of the name of the National War he was
3rRiA2MEJuo-00022-00005460-00005611 Lobby filled because already during the
3rRiA2MEJuo-00023-00005612-00005884 60s and the 70s it was integrated into
3rRiA2MEJuo-00024-00005885-00006086 the global market so if a country such
3rRiA2MEJuo-00025-00006087-00006341 as Yugoslavia which had self-management
3rRiA2MEJuo-00026-00006342-00006481 which was part of the non-aligned
3rRiA2MEJuo-00027-00006483-00006653 movement one of the biggest historical
3rRiA2MEJuo-00028-00006654-00006758 achievements of the twentieth century
3rRiA2MEJuo-00029-00006759-00007042 and a huge power bloc if you were Slavia
3rRiA2MEJuo-00030-00007043-00007192 as such where you had the even real
3rRiA2MEJuo-00031-00007193-00007430 existing socialism for decades couldn't
3rRiA2MEJuo-00032-00007431-00007628 succeed to be outside of the global
3rRiA2MEJuo-00033-00007629-00007984 market I ask you how can tiny countries
3rRiA2MEJuo-00034-00007986-00008221 such as Greece or Spain succeed outside
3rRiA2MEJuo-00035-00008222-00008435 of the of the European Union which
3rRiA2MEJuo-00036-00008436-00008878 doesn't mean that we are for the current
3rRiA2MEJuo-00037-00008879-00009092 status quo and the current functioning
3rRiA2MEJuo-00038-00009093-00009292 of the European Union but we believe in
3rRiA2MEJuo-00039-00009293-00009449 radical internationalism and that only
3rRiA2MEJuo-00040-00009450-00009680 by connecting together we can achieve
3rRiA2MEJuo-00041-00009681-00010613 some victories on the European level
3rRiA2MEJuo-00042-00010614-00010820 you
3sLMRoS1kFE-00001-00006232-00007145 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00002-00007147-00007839 [Applause]
3sLMRoS1kFE-00003-00007840-00008983 [Applause]
3sLMRoS1kFE-00004-00008984-00010567 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00005-00010568-00011983 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00006-00011984-00013407 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00007-00013408-00013596 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00008-00013597-00014791 [Music]
3sLMRoS1kFE-00009-00014791-00016472 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00011-00020023-00021749 so
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3sLMRoS1kFE-00013-00024640-00026022 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00014-00026023-00027616 so
3sLMRoS1kFE-00015-00027617-00027951 [Music]
3sLMRoS1kFE-00016-00027952-00028252 hmm
3tvwBScYzJM-00000-00000096-00000327 and i'll start recording this the group
3tvwBScYzJM-00001-00000328-00000487 working group or the risk working group
3tvwBScYzJM-00002-00000488-00000647 meeting the group working group meeting
3tvwBScYzJM-00003-00000648-00000759 as well
3tvwBScYzJM-00004-00000760-00001111 uh for june 10th 2021
3tvwBScYzJM-00005-00001112-00001295 um you can put your name under the june
3tvwBScYzJM-00006-00001296-00001470 10th attendees
3tvwBScYzJM-00007-00001471-00002175 which i will show you
3tvwBScYzJM-00008-00002176-00002423 there we go you should see that screen
3tvwBScYzJM-00009-00002424-00003150 share now
3tvwBScYzJM-00010-00003151-00003415 um the next does anyone else have any
3tvwBScYzJM-00011-00003415-00003470 other
3tvwBScYzJM-00012-00003471-00003622 what i was thinking we could start doing
3tvwBScYzJM-00013-00003623-00003886 is actually working on
3tvwBScYzJM-00014-00003887-00004622 the metrics for risk
3tvwBScYzJM-00015-00004623-00004991 hello everyone hello david wheeler
3tvwBScYzJM-00016-00004992-00005206 how are you doing we're doing well how
3tvwBScYzJM-00017-00005207-00005302 are you doing
3tvwBScYzJM-00018-00005303-00005695 i'm i'm feeling overwhelmed
3tvwBScYzJM-00019-00005696-00005983 but uh why dave why david there's
3tvwBScYzJM-00020-00005984-00006054 nothing
3tvwBScYzJM-00021-00006055-00006318 i mean there's nothing to just there
3tvwBScYzJM-00022-00006319-00006486 there are many tasks
3tvwBScYzJM-00023-00006487-00006767 and i want to do well on all of them but
3tvwBScYzJM-00024-00006768-00007095 i have to split my time so i end up
3tvwBScYzJM-00025-00007095-00007655 going oh my gosh yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00026-00007656-00007927 all right so we had a fun launch this
3tvwBScYzJM-00027-00007928-00008023 week that's
3tvwBScYzJM-00028-00008023-00008287 sort of related yeah thinking about
3tvwBScYzJM-00029-00008288-00008431 putting it in slack but i don't know if
3tvwBScYzJM-00030-00008432-00008510 the other others
3tvwBScYzJM-00031-00008511-00008774 have seen it i've heard of it but i
3tvwBScYzJM-00032-00008775-00008823 don't
3tvwBScYzJM-00033-00008824-00009055 honestly uh know with certainty what it
3tvwBScYzJM-00034-00009056-00009167 is
3tvwBScYzJM-00035-00009168-00009319 like i know it's google's dependency
3tvwBScYzJM-00036-00009320-00009567 tools it's an aggregate dependency
3tvwBScYzJM-00037-00009568-00009719 mapper so instead of looking at any of
3tvwBScYzJM-00038-00009720-00009871 the ones that are focused on specific
3tvwBScYzJM-00039-00009872-00010071 package managers it
3tvwBScYzJM-00040-00010072-00010319 goes it combines them and it combines
3tvwBScYzJM-00041-00010320-00010463 them with vulnerability reporting
3tvwBScYzJM-00042-00010464-00010591 so i've known about it for a while but i
3tvwBScYzJM-00043-00010592-00010838 couldn't talk about it until now
3tvwBScYzJM-00044-00010839-00011046 uh when we were like maybe like two
3tvwBScYzJM-00045-00011047-00011159 months ago we were talking about
3tvwBScYzJM-00046-00011160-00011278 available tools
3tvwBScYzJM-00047-00011279-00011959 oh
3tvwBScYzJM-00048-00011960-00012342 this list but now there's another one
3tvwBScYzJM-00049-00012343-00012663 which is important and what is it called
3tvwBScYzJM-00050-00012664-00012927 you put it the link in the chat it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00051-00012928-00012974 called
3tvwBScYzJM-00052-00012975-00013335 google it's called open source insights
3tvwBScYzJM-00053-00013336-00013638 um dev um
3tvwBScYzJM-00054-00013640-00014335 can you put that in the notes yes
3tvwBScYzJM-00055-00014336-00014519 well i was thinking of the uh chaos
3tvwBScYzJM-00056-00014519-00014743 working group notes but i mean
3tvwBScYzJM-00057-00014744-00015055 that was true
3tvwBScYzJM-00058-00015056-00015415 yes sophia i
3tvwBScYzJM-00059-00015416-00015766 i have a couple questions on on that one
3tvwBScYzJM-00060-00015768-00016086 um on on depth dev um
3tvwBScYzJM-00061-00016087-00016263 because as soon as i saw it i dropped it
3tvwBScYzJM-00062-00016263-00016422 in the link to uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00063-00016423-00016575 drop the link in our team chat because
3tvwBScYzJM-00064-00016576-00016807 we you know are so deep in
3tvwBScYzJM-00065-00016808-00016975 some of this analysis as well and it
3tvwBScYzJM-00066-00016976-00017143 covers some of the
3tvwBScYzJM-00067-00017144-00017471 uh some of the ground that
3tvwBScYzJM-00068-00017472-00017735 um libraries i o covered but different
3tvwBScYzJM-00069-00017736-00017879 ground and some of the ground some other
3tvwBScYzJM-00070-00017880-00018022 tools cover and different ground
3tvwBScYzJM-00071-00018023-00018158 one of the first questions was about an
3tvwBScYzJM-00072-00018159-00018303 api and wondering where that might be on
3tvwBScYzJM-00073-00018304-00018455 the roadmap
3tvwBScYzJM-00074-00018456-00018783 um i can ask okay
3tvwBScYzJM-00075-00018784-00019222 um and it was it was interesting to me
3tvwBScYzJM-00076-00019223-00019350 to see it
3tvwBScYzJM-00077-00019351-00019622 launch with sort of limited package
3tvwBScYzJM-00078-00019623-00019886 support given there's a number of tools
3tvwBScYzJM-00079-00019887-00020022 out there that have
3tvwBScYzJM-00080-00020023-00020207 have already sort of covered the ground
3tvwBScYzJM-00081-00020208-00020399 unpacking these package manifests and
3tvwBScYzJM-00082-00020400-00020599 sort of drilling into it so
3tvwBScYzJM-00083-00020600-00020871 um is there anything you can you can say
3tvwBScYzJM-00084-00020872-00021007 to that or
3tvwBScYzJM-00085-00021008-00021430 any insight you can give us there
3tvwBScYzJM-00086-00021431-00021694 not that's that helpful um when i i've
3tvwBScYzJM-00087-00021695-00021822 interacted with that team
3tvwBScYzJM-00088-00021823-00022039 i wasn't a part of this project i met
3tvwBScYzJM-00089-00022040-00022199 with them a few times just get a sense
3tvwBScYzJM-00090-00022200-00022335 of what they were building
3tvwBScYzJM-00091-00022336-00022591 um what they ended up building wasn't
3tvwBScYzJM-00092-00022592-00022775 even the same thing that i saw
3tvwBScYzJM-00093-00022776-00022943 four months ago um i think they were
3tvwBScYzJM-00094-00022944-00023055 kind of just playing around with what
3tvwBScYzJM-00095-00023056-00023183 what the white space was
3tvwBScYzJM-00096-00023184-00023286 i know they've been working on it for a
3tvwBScYzJM-00097-00023287-00023519 long time um so
3tvwBScYzJM-00098-00023520-00023663 i know they're trying to get as much in
3tvwBScYzJM-00099-00023664-00023886 there as possible so there are some that
3tvwBScYzJM-00100-00023887-00023942 were just
3tvwBScYzJM-00101-00023943-00024142 easier to hook in than others that were
3tvwBScYzJM-00102-00024143-00024367 not um
3tvwBScYzJM-00103-00024368-00024555 but in terms of the level of
3tvwBScYzJM-00104-00024556-00024671 comprehensiveness
3tvwBScYzJM-00105-00024672-00025007 and what was left out and why i'm not
3tvwBScYzJM-00106-00025008-00025183 i'm i can ask if there are specific
3tvwBScYzJM-00107-00025184-00025319 things on the roadmap i don't know
3tvwBScYzJM-00108-00025320-00025430 what's
3tvwBScYzJM-00109-00025431-00025702 i don't know what's in plate the api is
3tvwBScYzJM-00110-00025704-00025870 my only specific question i know i i
3tvwBScYzJM-00111-00025872-00025974 don't want to deal with it well i'll
3tvwBScYzJM-00112-00025975-00026183 stop asking questions but thank you
3tvwBScYzJM-00113-00026183-00026414 i had a good question actually i was
3tvwBScYzJM-00114-00026416-00026683 just wondering what the response has
3tvwBScYzJM-00115-00026683-00026951 been
3tvwBScYzJM-00116-00026952-00027462 yeah uh i don't know
3tvwBScYzJM-00117-00027463-00027831 uh it's been we had some positivity in
3tvwBScYzJM-00118-00027832-00027943 the sense that there was a lot of
3tvwBScYzJM-00119-00027944-00028127 consensus that dependency mapping is
3tvwBScYzJM-00120-00028127-00028214 hard um
3tvwBScYzJM-00121-00028216-00028446 being able to enumerate uh the extended
3tvwBScYzJM-00122-00028447-00028662 list of dependency trees and transitive
3tvwBScYzJM-00123-00028663-00028783 dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00124-00028783-00029087 um and so there was positivity in
3tvwBScYzJM-00125-00029088-00029199 response to
3tvwBScYzJM-00126-00029200-00029455 trying to make that more accessible or
3tvwBScYzJM-00127-00029456-00029511 just
3tvwBScYzJM-00128-00029512-00029711 calling into question the importance of
3tvwBScYzJM-00129-00029712-00029943 it and mechanisms to do it even if this
3tvwBScYzJM-00130-00029944-00030167 isn't necessarily a tool to do it with
3tvwBScYzJM-00131-00030168-00030327 um so in that sense there are there was
3tvwBScYzJM-00132-00030327-00030535 a positive reaction um
3tvwBScYzJM-00133-00030536-00030687 i must also know on the pr team i'm
3tvwBScYzJM-00134-00030688-00030983 assuming they they know more than i do
3tvwBScYzJM-00135-00030983-00031031 uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00136-00031032-00031255 but i do know this is a a fairly long
3tvwBScYzJM-00137-00031256-00031374 time coming they've been building this
3tvwBScYzJM-00138-00031375-00031487 thing for a few years
3tvwBScYzJM-00139-00031488-00031855 um so this was i'm guessing that they
3tvwBScYzJM-00140-00031856-00031958 have more to come
3tvwBScYzJM-00141-00031960-00032167 um i still don't quite know what the
3tvwBScYzJM-00142-00032168-00032399 scary little creature mascot means but i
3tvwBScYzJM-00143-00032400-00032558 didn't want to ask that as well because
3tvwBScYzJM-00144-00032560-00032831 i'm just curious
3tvwBScYzJM-00145-00032832-00033102 is there a mascot yeah if you scroll
3tvwBScYzJM-00146-00033103-00033143 down
3tvwBScYzJM-00147-00033144-00033527 it's just like little creepy eyeballs
3tvwBScYzJM-00148-00033528-00033683 that looks like a dependency tree
3tvwBScYzJM-00149-00033684-00033839 actually
3tvwBScYzJM-00150-00033840-00034007 that absolutely looks like a dependency
3tvwBScYzJM-00151-00034008-00034423 tree it looks like halloween
3tvwBScYzJM-00152-00034424-00034743 penis tree yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00153-00034744-00034951 um but i i will ask about apis because i
3tvwBScYzJM-00154-00034952-00035055 think that that's
3tvwBScYzJM-00155-00035056-00035199 relevant to trying to understand the
3tvwBScYzJM-00156-00035200-00035374 extensibility of what they built
3tvwBScYzJM-00157-00035375-00035559 um but just ping me if you if you have
3tvwBScYzJM-00158-00035560-00035759 other questions and i can i can see what
3tvwBScYzJM-00159-00035760-00035879 we're allowed to talk about at this
3tvwBScYzJM-00160-00035880-00035918 stage
3tvwBScYzJM-00161-00035919-00036030 i mean i'm assuming now it's a public
3tvwBScYzJM-00162-00036031-00036151 project so they should be more
3tvwBScYzJM-00163-00036152-00036799 forthcoming with information
3tvwBScYzJM-00164-00036800-00037102 sorry i didn't mean to derail your no i
3tvwBScYzJM-00165-00037103-00037271 was gonna ask you about it so
3tvwBScYzJM-00166-00037272-00037751 it's not it's our agenda
3tvwBScYzJM-00167-00037752-00038423 all right so
3tvwBScYzJM-00168-00038424-00038846 let us know i
3tvwBScYzJM-00169-00038847-00039118 so that's exciting um is it written in
3tvwBScYzJM-00170-00039119-00039159 go
3tvwBScYzJM-00171-00039160-00039495 i assume thanks
3tvwBScYzJM-00172-00039496-00039807 so i don't know
3tvwBScYzJM-00173-00039808-00039951 that would be my guess but a lot of
3tvwBScYzJM-00174-00039952-00040118 things are written and go
3tvwBScYzJM-00175-00040119-00040479 yeah huh i don't see how to get to the
3tvwBScYzJM-00176-00040480-00040855 github repository
3tvwBScYzJM-00177-00040856-00041167 weird they might not have open source to
3tvwBScYzJM-00178-00041168-00041239 code they might have
3tvwBScYzJM-00179-00041240-00041543 only open source the tool uh okay
3tvwBScYzJM-00180-00041544-00041967 i don't understand the distinction
3tvwBScYzJM-00181-00041968-00042302 it's free for public for now
3tvwBScYzJM-00182-00042303-00042471 oh the date okay they might have open
3tvwBScYzJM-00183-00042472-00042711 source the data is what you mean
3tvwBScYzJM-00184-00042712-00042927 yeah so like you can go in and put in
3tvwBScYzJM-00185-00042928-00043071 like i just
3tvwBScYzJM-00186-00043072-00043343 looking at the kubernetes i o yeah yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00187-00043344-00043479 and you can see all the licenses you can
3tvwBScYzJM-00188-00043480-00043607 see the number of departments
3tvwBScYzJM-00189-00043608-00043790 okay yes i've i've played around with
3tvwBScYzJM-00190-00043791-00044423 this
3tvwBScYzJM-00191-00044424-00044735 okay i mean this is exciting it would be
3tvwBScYzJM-00192-00044736-00044862 i would be more excited if they open
3tvwBScYzJM-00193-00044863-00045015 source the code but the data is pretty
3tvwBScYzJM-00194-00045016-00045327 good
3tvwBScYzJM-00195-00045328-00045479 but yeah that really makes dwayne's
3tvwBScYzJM-00196-00045480-00045662 question about an api super relevant
3tvwBScYzJM-00197-00045663-00045895 if you can't run it yourself you would
3tvwBScYzJM-00198-00045896-00046071 need you would need an api to
3tvwBScYzJM-00199-00046072-00046511 access it
3tvwBScYzJM-00200-00046512-00046630 all right yeah i know what's what's
3tvwBScYzJM-00201-00046631-00046839 amusing is uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00202-00046840-00047062 if you if you basically they've yanked
3tvwBScYzJM-00203-00047063-00047143 in the uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00204-00047144-00047383 open ssf scorecard and of course you
3tvwBScYzJM-00205-00047384-00047495 know immediately
3tvwBScYzJM-00206-00047496-00047751 notice oh look ci best practices is on
3tvwBScYzJM-00207-00047752-00047846 there
3tvwBScYzJM-00208-00047847-00048111 oh is it awesome oh yeah but if it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00209-00048112-00048215 there so you know if you
3tvwBScYzJM-00210-00048216-00048518 if you um here let me paste in the
3tvwBScYzJM-00211-00048519-00048727 a link to the kubernetes data i think
3tvwBScYzJM-00212-00048728-00048823 that's
3tvwBScYzJM-00213-00048824-00049135 that's a useful sample example oh yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00214-00049136-00049215 yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00215-00049216-00049567 okay uh because with kubernetes
3tvwBScYzJM-00216-00049568-00049758 kubernetes there's a lot of actual data
3tvwBScYzJM-00217-00049759-00050335 you can get about it so
3tvwBScYzJM-00218-00050336-00050662 excuse me
3tvwBScYzJM-00219-00050663-00050902 um david there might be some overlap
3tvwBScYzJM-00220-00050903-00051039 between the folks that work on the
3tvwBScYzJM-00221-00051040-00051174 scorecard and the folks that were
3tvwBScYzJM-00222-00051175-00051311 supporting this project
3tvwBScYzJM-00223-00051312-00051519 oh i think that's a certainty or are you
3tvwBScYzJM-00224-00051520-00051679 are you joking
3tvwBScYzJM-00225-00051679-00051894 i know there i know there's over oh yes
3tvwBScYzJM-00226-00051895-00052175 okay yes yes
3tvwBScYzJM-00227-00052176-00052454 yeah uh let's see here what's the okay
3tvwBScYzJM-00228-00052455-00052638 um
3tvwBScYzJM-00229-00052639-00053519 for example
3tvwBScYzJM-00230-00053520-00053750 so kubernetes does not freeze and fail
3tvwBScYzJM-00231-00053751-00054135 dependencies i find that hard to believe
3tvwBScYzJM-00232-00054136-00054638 it does not freeze
3tvwBScYzJM-00233-00054639-00055479 i guess
3tvwBScYzJM-00234-00055479-00055750 um well that's that's what that tool
3tvwBScYzJM-00235-00055751-00055823 finds
3tvwBScYzJM-00236-00055824-00056150 now whether well uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00237-00056151-00056415 well if you click on it it um it has a
3tvwBScYzJM-00238-00056416-00056511 list
3tvwBScYzJM-00239-00056512-00056742 so for example the docker file has
3tvwBScYzJM-00240-00056744-00057023 non-pin dependencies on set cap image
3tvwBScYzJM-00241-00057024-00057482 base image uh oh it's all docker
3tvwBScYzJM-00242-00057483-00057791 yeah yeah they're all it looks like uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00243-00057791-00057991 everything i i mean i'd have to read
3tvwBScYzJM-00244-00057991-00058111 through but it looks like it's all
3tvwBScYzJM-00245-00058112-00058287 within the docker image
3tvwBScYzJM-00246-00058288-00058607 um and you know that that actually
3tvwBScYzJM-00247-00058608-00058799 now see i'm not so sure the elastic
3tvwBScYzJM-00248-00058800-00059079 search isn't pinned but the ones where
3tvwBScYzJM-00249-00059079-00059247 there's a variable
3tvwBScYzJM-00250-00059248-00059430 i mean by definition it's not pinned
3tvwBScYzJM-00251-00059432-00059630 right unless that variables it sets
3tvwBScYzJM-00252-00059632-00060319 forced
3tvwBScYzJM-00253-00060320-00060606 so i mean i i would have to look more
3tvwBScYzJM-00254-00060607-00060742 but at least the data it
3tvwBScYzJM-00255-00060744-00061063 shows there um
3tvwBScYzJM-00256-00061064-00061263 i mean at first blush it looks like it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00257-00061264-00061623 correct yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00258-00061624-00061775 you have to drill in further but at
3tvwBScYzJM-00259-00061776-00061999 least how's this it certainly passes the
3tvwBScYzJM-00260-00062000-00062111 giggle test it has
3tvwBScYzJM-00261-00062112-00062382 actual things that sure don't look
3tvwBScYzJM-00262-00062383-00062463 pinned
3tvwBScYzJM-00263-00062464-00062630 uh unless there's something else that
3tvwBScYzJM-00264-00062632-00062879 pins them as a intermediate step
3tvwBScYzJM-00265-00062879-00063191 yep side releases is a little more
3tvwBScYzJM-00266-00063191-00063630 surprising
3tvwBScYzJM-00267-00063632-00063935 is that sasd oh science uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00268-00063936-00064375 signed releases yeah now now to be fair
3tvwBScYzJM-00269-00064376-00064671 uh i i do know the folks who at least uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00270-00064672-00064854 who developed the scorecard thing
3tvwBScYzJM-00271-00064855-00065079 um what they what that really means is
3tvwBScYzJM-00272-00065079-00065271 they can't find it
3tvwBScYzJM-00273-00065272-00065606 it may be there but you know they have
3tvwBScYzJM-00274-00065607-00065750 various heuristics to find
3tvwBScYzJM-00275-00065751-00065975 these things and if they can't find it
3tvwBScYzJM-00276-00065976-00066119 then they can't find it
3tvwBScYzJM-00277-00066120-00066663 right right
3tvwBScYzJM-00278-00066664-00066887 well that's exciting i mean it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00279-00066888-00066967 certainly
3tvwBScYzJM-00280-00066968-00067343 uh another place to look and
3tvwBScYzJM-00281-00067344-00067511 there is some really interesting
3tvwBScYzJM-00282-00067512-00067935 analysis here
3tvwBScYzJM-00283-00067936-00068215 it's a really scary graph picture if you
3tvwBScYzJM-00284-00068216-00068406 want to
3tvwBScYzJM-00285-00068407-00068615 where you're talking about scary graphs
3tvwBScYzJM-00286-00068616-00068912 um yeah do i get there
3tvwBScYzJM-00287-00068913-00069206 [Music]
3tvwBScYzJM-00288-00069207-00069431 shoot i found it before there's a way to
3tvwBScYzJM-00289-00069432-00069647 visualize this as a graph
3tvwBScYzJM-00290-00069648-00069799 uh when you're in the dependencies if
3tvwBScYzJM-00291-00069800-00070143 you click on scroll up
3tvwBScYzJM-00292-00070144-00070350 um the top bar dependencies you're
3tvwBScYzJM-00293-00070351-00070503 viewing it as a table you can also view
3tvwBScYzJM-00294-00070504-00070623 it as a graph it's a bit
3tvwBScYzJM-00295-00070624-00070911 terrifying and it reminds me oh wow
3tvwBScYzJM-00296-00070912-00071038 terrifying view
3tvwBScYzJM-00297-00071039-00071311 um but we had initially for those that
3tvwBScYzJM-00298-00071312-00071455 are relatively new this conversation and
3tvwBScYzJM-00299-00071456-00071567 we're exploring different ways that you
3tvwBScYzJM-00300-00071568-00071743 could visualize dependencies and
3tvwBScYzJM-00301-00071744-00071894 all kind of came to the conclusion that
3tvwBScYzJM-00302-00071895-00072094 trying to view the graph would
3tvwBScYzJM-00303-00072095-00072311 be incomprehensible and this is an
3tvwBScYzJM-00304-00072312-00072447 example of that
3tvwBScYzJM-00305-00072448-00072791 yeah yep i would call it terrifying
3tvwBScYzJM-00306-00072792-00073071 i would call it incomprehensible the
3tvwBScYzJM-00307-00073072-00073206 word used second yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00308-00073207-00073447 oh and and i will say um now although
3tvwBScYzJM-00309-00073448-00073638 it's not exactly the same view we
3tvwBScYzJM-00310-00073639-00073855 i tried to do the same thing the best
3tvwBScYzJM-00311-00073856-00074055 practices badge and we had exactly the
3tvwBScYzJM-00312-00074056-00074175 same problem
3tvwBScYzJM-00313-00074176-00074319 you know if you only have five
3tvwBScYzJM-00314-00074320-00074519 dependencies it's really easy
3tvwBScYzJM-00315-00074520-00074703 nobody has only five dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00316-00074704-00074894 anymore it's like this
3tvwBScYzJM-00317-00074895-00075206 for everyone this looks like a battle
3tvwBScYzJM-00318-00075207-00075319 scene where the
3tvwBScYzJM-00319-00075320-00075682 rebel alliance gets destroyed by the
3tvwBScYzJM-00320-00075683-00076255 empire
3tvwBScYzJM-00321-00076256-00076471 uh you know i'm not sure i can recover
3tvwBScYzJM-00322-00076472-00076662 from that
3tvwBScYzJM-00323-00076663-00076967 yeah yeah but
3tvwBScYzJM-00324-00076968-00077215 the obvious way to sort of recover is to
3tvwBScYzJM-00325-00077216-00077375 only show one level
3tvwBScYzJM-00326-00077376-00077726 but even that is you know it's not so
3tvwBScYzJM-00327-00077727-00078031 easy
3tvwBScYzJM-00328-00078032-00078231 um i mean at that point you really end
3tvwBScYzJM-00329-00078232-00078431 up with just making a lis yeah like this
3tvwBScYzJM-00330-00078432-00078679 a simple text list which is okay
3tvwBScYzJM-00331-00078680-00079119 i mean it works but you don't really
3tvwBScYzJM-00332-00079120-00079350 at least the list gives you an insight
3tvwBScYzJM-00333-00079351-00079431 of the scale
3tvwBScYzJM-00334-00079432-00079703 the the graph is just incompre you know
3tvwBScYzJM-00335-00079704-00079871 i've never found anybody who really
3tvwBScYzJM-00336-00079872-00079999 managed to solve that
3tvwBScYzJM-00337-00080000-00080223 if if that's any help no i don't think
3tvwBScYzJM-00338-00080224-00080311 it's solvable
3tvwBScYzJM-00339-00080312-00080535 actually or if it's solvable it's like
3tvwBScYzJM-00340-00080536-00080615 some kind of
3tvwBScYzJM-00341-00080616-00080959 virtual reality we're floating through
3tvwBScYzJM-00342-00080960-00081191 space and time
3tvwBScYzJM-00343-00081192-00081382 um there are folks who've done something
3tvwBScYzJM-00344-00081383-00081550 like i'm sorry
3tvwBScYzJM-00345-00081551-00081703 let's just say i did like how they also
3tvwBScYzJM-00346-00081704-00081894 have forward and backward uh in terms of
3tvwBScYzJM-00347-00081895-00082111 dependencies and dependence
3tvwBScYzJM-00348-00082112-00082279 um where a lot of i haven't really seen
3tvwBScYzJM-00349-00082280-00082423 a lot of dependency analysis that also
3tvwBScYzJM-00350-00082424-00082638 has a few
3tvwBScYzJM-00351-00082639-00082975 um there are folks who do this as social
3tvwBScYzJM-00352-00082976-00083143 network graphs
3tvwBScYzJM-00353-00083144-00083462 um you know like you know i i tracked
3tvwBScYzJM-00354-00083463-00083599 i'm tracking a whole bunch of people
3tvwBScYzJM-00355-00083600-00083759 which one's the terrorist kind of thing
3tvwBScYzJM-00356-00083760-00083862 kind of games yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00357-00083863-00084167 yeah uh but um you know they show the
3tvwBScYzJM-00358-00084168-00084223 graphs
3tvwBScYzJM-00359-00084224-00084375 as far as i can tell the showing the
3tvwBScYzJM-00360-00084376-00084606 graphs is to show wow we have a lot of
3tvwBScYzJM-00361-00084607-00084687 data
3tvwBScYzJM-00362-00084688-00084950 you know they the analysis is you focus
3tvwBScYzJM-00363-00084951-00085118 on specific things
3tvwBScYzJM-00364-00085119-00085415 and then you use code to find the
3tvwBScYzJM-00365-00085416-00085526 patterns you don't
3tvwBScYzJM-00366-00085527-00085767 actually try to look at these graphs for
3tvwBScYzJM-00367-00085768-00085871 insight i
3tvwBScYzJM-00368-00085872-00086159 just don't think people can do that no i
3tvwBScYzJM-00369-00086160-00086311 don't think there's anything to digest
3tvwBScYzJM-00370-00086312-00086423 here
3tvwBScYzJM-00371-00086424-00086726 there's too much to digest but um what
3tvwBScYzJM-00372-00086727-00087623 is a filter
3tvwBScYzJM-00373-00087624-00088455 yeah like this
3tvwBScYzJM-00374-00088456-00088687 so if i type in json in the filter then
3tvwBScYzJM-00375-00088688-00088975 i only see
3tvwBScYzJM-00376-00088976-00089167 the ones that contain json somewhere i
3tvwBScYzJM-00377-00089168-00089375 would presume or
3tvwBScYzJM-00378-00089376-00089487 i don't know what the filter is
3tvwBScYzJM-00379-00089488-00089638 filtering on some of them have json in
3tvwBScYzJM-00380-00089639-00089759 the name some of them don't
3tvwBScYzJM-00381-00089760-00090167 so presumably there's
3tvwBScYzJM-00382-00090168-00091082 some kind of deeper filter than just the
3tvwBScYzJM-00383-00091083-00091247 name
3tvwBScYzJM-00384-00091248-00091399 it's not clear what the different colors
3tvwBScYzJM-00385-00091400-00091726 mean i guess maybe one is a
3tvwBScYzJM-00386-00091727-00092703 primary dependency one is secondary
3tvwBScYzJM-00387-00092704-00093271 what's a weird decision doing
3tvwBScYzJM-00388-00093272-00093687 sorry um
3tvwBScYzJM-00389-00093688-00093847 building an open source insight school
3tvwBScYzJM-00390-00093848-00094303 is not open
3tvwBScYzJM-00391-00094304-00095282 let's just hope it's not open source yet
3tvwBScYzJM-00392-00095283-00095518 yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00393-00095519-00095838 okay um anything else we need to
3tvwBScYzJM-00394-00095839-00096150 probably talk about there no
3tvwBScYzJM-00395-00096151-00096303 i thought today maybe we could work a
3tvwBScYzJM-00396-00096304-00096462 little bit on
3tvwBScYzJM-00397-00096463-00096879 um some of our metrics and
3tvwBScYzJM-00398-00096880-00097215 up so if i'm remembering from our
3tvwBScYzJM-00399-00097216-00097287 discussions
3tvwBScYzJM-00400-00097288-00097494 i think maybe there is some translation
3tvwBScYzJM-00401-00097495-00097679 that didn't get
3tvwBScYzJM-00402-00097680-00098079 from our minimum viable product
3tvwBScYzJM-00403-00098080-00098406 so we have repository dependency
3tvwBScYzJM-00404-00098407-00098735 enumeration and we have upstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00405-00098736-00098918 are we just are we keeping separate
3tvwBScYzJM-00406-00098919-00099150 metrics for upstream and downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00407-00099151-00099382 because i know we have them but i i
3tvwBScYzJM-00408-00099383-00099535 remember a discussion where we talked
3tvwBScYzJM-00409-00099536-00099815 about just having dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00410-00099816-00099974 our upstream and downstream was a would
3tvwBScYzJM-00411-00099975-00100367 be a filter on it
3tvwBScYzJM-00412-00100368-00100518 and it would just be one metric does
3tvwBScYzJM-00413-00100519-00100718 anyone
3tvwBScYzJM-00414-00100719-00101262 want to what do people think
3tvwBScYzJM-00415-00101263-00101823 do i remember that correctly
3tvwBScYzJM-00416-00101824-00102206 okay so we have uh in our minimum viable
3tvwBScYzJM-00417-00102207-00102279 products
3tvwBScYzJM-00418-00102280-00102478 minimum viable products we have
3tvwBScYzJM-00419-00102479-00102702 dependency enumeration
3tvwBScYzJM-00420-00102703-00103039 um range libyars known vulnerabilities
3tvwBScYzJM-00421-00103040-00103390 scorecards etc but when we
3tvwBScYzJM-00422-00103391-00103630 and i remember saying that i remember a
3tvwBScYzJM-00423-00103631-00103806 conversation about dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00424-00103807-00104006 being just dependencies with upstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00425-00104007-00104151 and downstream being filters on
3tvwBScYzJM-00426-00104152-00104294 dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00427-00104295-00104623 but our metric spreadsheet still has
3tvwBScYzJM-00428-00104624-00104839 upstream and downstream specified and i
3tvwBScYzJM-00429-00104840-00105031 don't remember if we decided to keep
3tvwBScYzJM-00430-00105032-00105127 that
3tvwBScYzJM-00431-00105128-00105463 or if we intended to eliminate
3tvwBScYzJM-00432-00105464-00105647 the separation at the metrics level and
3tvwBScYzJM-00433-00105648-00106023 just have them be
3tvwBScYzJM-00434-00106024-00106663 dependencies writ large so these are the
3tvwBScYzJM-00435-00106664-00106807 upstream codependency
3tvwBScYzJM-00436-00106808-00107119 metric and this
3tvwBScYzJM-00437-00107120-00107710 is downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00438-00107711-00108085 in the chat that's upstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00439-00108086-00108327 [Music]
3tvwBScYzJM-00440-00108328-00109254 downstream's not developed at all
3tvwBScYzJM-00441-00109255-00109615 but i think when we i mean my thinking
3tvwBScYzJM-00442-00109616-00109807 is maybe that it makes sense to have
3tvwBScYzJM-00443-00109808-00110031 them be just dependencies and with
3tvwBScYzJM-00444-00110032-00110328 upstream and downstream as filters
3tvwBScYzJM-00445-00110329-00110478 [Music]
3tvwBScYzJM-00446-00110479-00110871 i feel like a term i hear is dependence
3tvwBScYzJM-00447-00110872-00111295 so downstream dependencies of dependence
3tvwBScYzJM-00448-00111296-00111558 but okay that's just the term that i
3tvwBScYzJM-00449-00111559-00111743 hear used
3tvwBScYzJM-00450-00111744-00112023 i also share my healthcare signal page
3tvwBScYzJM-00451-00112024-00112207 or something i feel like as well that's
3tvwBScYzJM-00452-00112208-00112383 different
3tvwBScYzJM-00453-00112383-00112654 that seems like a different thing or fun
3tvwBScYzJM-00454-00112655-00112734 feeling
3tvwBScYzJM-00455-00112735-00112975 yeah it's complex i feel like i would
3tvwBScYzJM-00456-00112976-00113039 keep them
3tvwBScYzJM-00457-00113040-00113375 separate because of the decisions you
3tvwBScYzJM-00458-00113376-00113454 make
3tvwBScYzJM-00459-00113455-00113847 between them so if like if you're
3tvwBScYzJM-00460-00113848-00114127 just thinking about dependencies then
3tvwBScYzJM-00461-00114128-00114254 it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00462-00114255-00114543 monitoring things that will impact you
3tvwBScYzJM-00463-00114544-00114719 if you're thinking about dependence it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00464-00114720-00115031 how your changes impact others so
3tvwBScYzJM-00465-00115032-00115390 i think that it's a different kind of
3tvwBScYzJM-00466-00115391-00115510 risk communication
3tvwBScYzJM-00467-00115511-00115815 and choice um in terms of how you would
3tvwBScYzJM-00468-00115816-00116047 use that information so i feel like it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00469-00116048-00116343 that warrants it to be separate when you
3tvwBScYzJM-00470-00116344-00116463 say separate you mean upstream and
3tvwBScYzJM-00471-00116464-00116599 downstream or dependencies and
3tvwBScYzJM-00472-00116600-00116790 dependence because
3tvwBScYzJM-00473-00116791-00116983 yeah dependencies independence and i
3tvwBScYzJM-00474-00116983-00117127 like that language as well are found out
3tvwBScYzJM-00475-00117128-00117183 that
3tvwBScYzJM-00476-00117183-00117310 it also aligns with the page we were
3tvwBScYzJM-00477-00117311-00117463 just looking at so i don't actually know
3tvwBScYzJM-00478-00117464-00117599 how consistent that is across
3tvwBScYzJM-00479-00117600-00117783 other things so we at least know there's
3tvwBScYzJM-00480-00117783-00118015 one other
3tvwBScYzJM-00481-00118016-00118223 um but i certainly understand i
3tvwBScYzJM-00482-00118224-00118415 understand like is so dependencies are
3tvwBScYzJM-00483-00118416-00118615 places upstream independence or places
3tvwBScYzJM-00484-00118616-00118719 downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00485-00118720-00119083 or can you have upstream dependence and
3tvwBScYzJM-00486-00119083-00119215 dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00487-00119216-00119327 because it feels like dependence and
3tvwBScYzJM-00488-00119328-00119495 dependencies are opposite sides of the
3tvwBScYzJM-00489-00119496-00119702 same direct of the same flow
3tvwBScYzJM-00490-00119703-00119943 or opposite streams of the same flow and
3tvwBScYzJM-00491-00119944-00120047 it feels like dependence and
3tvwBScYzJM-00492-00120048-00120175 dependencies are the same
3tvwBScYzJM-00493-00120176-00120414 upstream and downstream is all right so
3tvwBScYzJM-00494-00120415-00120599 i'm a little confused
3tvwBScYzJM-00495-00120600-00120758 yeah so dependents are downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00496-00120759-00120975 dependencies so projects okay on you
3tvwBScYzJM-00497-00120976-00121263 that's all right i think yeah i just i
3tvwBScYzJM-00498-00121264-00121423 just feel it as directional
3tvwBScYzJM-00499-00121424-00121654 right yeah if you're in the middle of
3tvwBScYzJM-00500-00121655-00121807 the things that you're using and then
3tvwBScYzJM-00501-00121808-00122007 the things that are using
3tvwBScYzJM-00502-00122008-00122278 you so like everything has directional i
3tvwBScYzJM-00503-00122279-00122447 mean it's basically it's flowing down a
3tvwBScYzJM-00504-00122448-00122551 river
3tvwBScYzJM-00505-00122552-00122814 so upstream is stuff that's coming into
3tvwBScYzJM-00506-00122815-00122910 you
3tvwBScYzJM-00507-00122911-00123095 downstream is things that are that
3tvwBScYzJM-00508-00123096-00123295 you're sending your what you've done
3tvwBScYzJM-00509-00123296-00123614 out too so
3tvwBScYzJM-00510-00123615-00123734 should we call them dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00511-00123735-00123943 independents or should we
3tvwBScYzJM-00512-00123944-00124247 overload it so that everybody
3tvwBScYzJM-00513-00124248-00124399 part of me wants to overload it include
3tvwBScYzJM-00514-00124400-00124583 all the language so that there's no
3tvwBScYzJM-00515-00124583-00124790 confusion but part of me thinks that's
3tvwBScYzJM-00516-00124791-00125158 explicitly confusing then actually
3tvwBScYzJM-00517-00125159-00125695 maybe it's more confusing to say both
3tvwBScYzJM-00518-00125696-00125895 so i've got dependencies and
3tvwBScYzJM-00519-00125896-00126063 dependencies downstream codependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00520-00126064-00126247 which are dependents do we just want to
3tvwBScYzJM-00521-00126248-00126895 call them dependencies independence
3tvwBScYzJM-00522-00126896-00127063 and get rid of the upstream downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00523-00127064-00127278 designation
3tvwBScYzJM-00524-00127279-00127654 so help me again what are you proposing
3tvwBScYzJM-00525-00127655-00128054 yeah that's uh so i added i i made this
3tvwBScYzJM-00526-00128055-00128214 downstream codependencies with
3tvwBScYzJM-00527-00128215-00128447 dependents in parentheses
3tvwBScYzJM-00528-00128448-00128623 and then i made this upstream code
3tvwBScYzJM-00529-00128624-00128783 dependencies with dependencies in
3tvwBScYzJM-00530-00128783-00128902 parentheses
3tvwBScYzJM-00531-00128903-00129110 but those those two could be just
3tvwBScYzJM-00532-00129111-00129334 dependents and dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00533-00129335-00129734 and we could be specific in the
3tvwBScYzJM-00534-00129735-00129910 description about
3tvwBScYzJM-00535-00129911-00130183 the inclusion of upstream downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00536-00130183-00131207 that's the same thing
3tvwBScYzJM-00537-00131208-00131359 yeah right that's what i'm struggling
3tvwBScYzJM-00538-00131360-00131502 with is how to communicate this because
3tvwBScYzJM-00539-00131503-00131654 it's certainly been a source of
3tvwBScYzJM-00540-00131655-00131990 confusion for me from time to time
3tvwBScYzJM-00541-00131991-00132278 i think going back to david's analogy of
3tvwBScYzJM-00542-00132279-00132351 the river
3tvwBScYzJM-00543-00132352-00132527 i think upstream and downstream pretty
3tvwBScYzJM-00544-00132528-00132751 well understood i give you
3tvwBScYzJM-00545-00132752-00133007 if i just did a quick search um and you
3tvwBScYzJM-00546-00133008-00133119 see lots of people
3tvwBScYzJM-00547-00133120-00133263 saying what is the difference between
3tvwBScYzJM-00548-00133264-00133471 upstream and downstream dependencies so
3tvwBScYzJM-00549-00133472-00133647 i guess there's some confusion
3tvwBScYzJM-00550-00133648-00133999 um so maybe how you have
3tvwBScYzJM-00551-00134000-00134263 upstream codependencies dependencies and
3tvwBScYzJM-00552-00134264-00134483 then downstream codependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00553-00134484-00134727 dependence yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00554-00134728-00134887 i like i like that one because
3tvwBScYzJM-00555-00134888-00135151 dependencies versus depend dance
3tvwBScYzJM-00556-00135152-00135463 is incredibly hard to hear yes um
3tvwBScYzJM-00557-00135464-00135687 i think i i find most people if they're
3tvwBScYzJM-00558-00135688-00135883 if they're the same the first five
3tvwBScYzJM-00559-00135884-00136014 characters
3tvwBScYzJM-00560-00136015-00136327 um you won't notice yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00561-00136328-00136511 in fact the old versions of the fourth
3tvwBScYzJM-00562-00136512-00136647 programming language
3tvwBScYzJM-00563-00136648-00136878 um they would you could have any the
3tvwBScYzJM-00564-00136879-00136959 variables
3tvwBScYzJM-00565-00136960-00137143 they didn't care after the first five
3tvwBScYzJM-00566-00137144-00137263 letters
3tvwBScYzJM-00567-00137264-00137583 first five
3tvwBScYzJM-00568-00137584-00137902 so upstream dependencies downstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00569-00137903-00138031 dependence
3tvwBScYzJM-00570-00138032-00138439 okay and then
3tvwBScYzJM-00571-00138440-00138614 now we define we've so this is we've
3tvwBScYzJM-00572-00138615-00138783 kind of fleshed out or started to flesh
3tvwBScYzJM-00573-00138784-00138878 out upstream
3tvwBScYzJM-00574-00138879-00139127 codependencies and i'm wondering if we
3tvwBScYzJM-00575-00139128-00139190 could
3tvwBScYzJM-00576-00139191-00139463 try to finish flushing that out and then
3tvwBScYzJM-00577-00139464-00139639 use
3tvwBScYzJM-00578-00139640-00139895 whatever structure we create on the
3tvwBScYzJM-00579-00139896-00140631 other one
3tvwBScYzJM-00580-00140632-00140783 so one thing we could do is just read
3tvwBScYzJM-00581-00140784-00140999 this for a minute and see if see how we
3tvwBScYzJM-00582-00141000-00142207 feel about how far it is
3tvwBScYzJM-00583-00142208-00142447 can you go to the top here yeah okay let
3tvwBScYzJM-00584-00142448-00142519 me
3tvwBScYzJM-00585-00142520-00142671 you know it might be easier if i could
3tvwBScYzJM-00586-00142672-00142839 the link is pasted in the chat
3tvwBScYzJM-00587-00142840-00143071 yeah i'm thinking instead of trying to
3tvwBScYzJM-00588-00143072-00143239 read off zoom it might be useful
3tvwBScYzJM-00589-00143240-00143526 oh for sure i think so yeah all right
3tvwBScYzJM-00590-00143527-00145683 let me do that
3tvwBScYzJM-00591-00145684-00147039 um
3tvwBScYzJM-00592-00147040-00147295 i'm just gonna delete your extraneous
3tvwBScYzJM-00593-00147296-00147383 comma
3tvwBScYzJM-00594-00147384-00147726 please please do all the
3tvwBScYzJM-00595-00147727-00147990 yes should we just start voicing
3tvwBScYzJM-00596-00147991-00148143 feedback in real time or do you want to
3tvwBScYzJM-00597-00148144-00148199 apply
3tvwBScYzJM-00598-00148200-00148478 go for it um i'm curious the so we
3tvwBScYzJM-00599-00148479-00148639 reference the upstream infrastructure
3tvwBScYzJM-00600-00148640-00148790 dependencies but
3tvwBScYzJM-00601-00148791-00148951 i'm assuming that's a metric that will
3tvwBScYzJM-00602-00148952-00149183 not be officially defined when this
3tvwBScYzJM-00603-00149184-00149287 releases
3tvwBScYzJM-00604-00149288-00149495 yeah i think actually we did get rid of
3tvwBScYzJM-00605-00149496-00149711 that didn't we
3tvwBScYzJM-00606-00149712-00149814 yeah i mean i don't know if we want to
3tvwBScYzJM-00607-00149815-00150039 get rid of it permanently but it's not
3tvwBScYzJM-00608-00150040-00150271 going to be released by it so
3tvwBScYzJM-00609-00150272-00150631 we might want to not say defined as but
3tvwBScYzJM-00610-00150632-00150895 say we've
3tvwBScYzJM-00611-00150896-00151111 like scoped that as a separate metric to
3tvwBScYzJM-00612-00151112-00151366 be its assassin a later
3tvwBScYzJM-00613-00151367-00151511 something way to allude to it because i
3tvwBScYzJM-00614-00151512-00151743 think that statement is still relevant
3tvwBScYzJM-00615-00151744-00151871 to say that we're
3tvwBScYzJM-00616-00151872-00152223 not looking at the the infrastructure
3tvwBScYzJM-00617-00152224-00152311 dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00618-00152312-00153335 and we consider that a separate category
3tvwBScYzJM-00619-00153336-00153678 how about that that works
3tvwBScYzJM-00620-00153679-00153814 this figure we don't have anything to
3tvwBScYzJM-00621-00153815-00154063 link to so i'll get rid of the link yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00622-00154064-00154790 i think there's just a way to okay
3tvwBScYzJM-00623-00154791-00155143 oh wait i saw it it's but the link will
3tvwBScYzJM-00624-00155144-00155247 still exist somewhere
3tvwBScYzJM-00625-00155248-00155383 when whenever we want to come back to
3tvwBScYzJM-00626-00155384-00155519 that in case there's something in there
3tvwBScYzJM-00627-00155520-00155647 yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00628-00155648-00155766 i don't think there was i think it was a
3tvwBScYzJM-00629-00155767-00155975 naked definition
3tvwBScYzJM-00630-00155976-00156351 okay all right i think is the word
3tvwBScYzJM-00631-00156352-00156607 yes template yeah by the way that last
3tvwBScYzJM-00632-00156608-00156839 one interpretive languages that doesn't
3tvwBScYzJM-00633-00156840-00157078 seem like a parameter
3tvwBScYzJM-00634-00157079-00157359 interpretive languages yeah that's not a
3tvwBScYzJM-00635-00157360-00157614 parameter i mean that's a
3tvwBScYzJM-00636-00157615-00157935 that is just a fact so are we including
3tvwBScYzJM-00637-00157936-00158254 is the real issue does it include the
3tvwBScYzJM-00638-00158255-00158511 interpreter runtime environment or not
3tvwBScYzJM-00639-00158512-00158695 is that what the issue is
3tvwBScYzJM-00640-00158696-00158935 so i mean dwayne actually gave me a
3tvwBScYzJM-00641-00158936-00159071 really good example of where this
3tvwBScYzJM-00642-00159072-00159214 happens all the time
3tvwBScYzJM-00643-00159215-00159471 in my python setup files and my node
3tvwBScYzJM-00644-00159472-00159663 setup files it never specifies that i
3tvwBScYzJM-00645-00159664-00159695 need
3tvwBScYzJM-00646-00159696-00160007 node or nvm or a version of node of a
3tvwBScYzJM-00647-00160008-00160119 particular type
3tvwBScYzJM-00648-00160120-00160343 or version of python so it also doesn't
3tvwBScYzJM-00649-00160344-00160551 specify the operating system kernel
3tvwBScYzJM-00650-00160552-00160790 right yeah yeah i mean although if you
3tvwBScYzJM-00651-00160791-00161519 build a docker container you can
3tvwBScYzJM-00652-00161520-00161671 to chime in there david though it
3tvwBScYzJM-00653-00161672-00161847 doesn't specify an operating system
3tvwBScYzJM-00654-00161848-00162039 but it also doesn't care it just
3tvwBScYzJM-00655-00162040-00162263 specifies there must be some kind of
3tvwBScYzJM-00656-00162264-00162431 operating system like i'm running on
3tvwBScYzJM-00657-00162432-00162535 something so i think there's an
3tvwBScYzJM-00658-00162536-00162687 important distinction there
3tvwBScYzJM-00659-00162688-00162823 is there a distinction what's the
3tvwBScYzJM-00660-00162824-00163031 distinction
3tvwBScYzJM-00661-00163032-00163487 um i think
3tvwBScYzJM-00662-00163488-00163711 if i'm running python if i'm running
3tvwBScYzJM-00663-00163712-00163814 python code
3tvwBScYzJM-00664-00163815-00163951 i assume that there's a python
3tvwBScYzJM-00665-00163952-00164102 interpreter but typically i don't care
3tvwBScYzJM-00666-00164103-00164495 which one
3tvwBScYzJM-00667-00164496-00164631 an interpreter is actually probably the
3tvwBScYzJM-00668-00164632-00164838 wrong phrase a i presume i have an
3tvwBScYzJM-00669-00164839-00165054 implementation of python
3tvwBScYzJM-00670-00165055-00165207 and i have an implementation of an
3tvwBScYzJM-00671-00165208-00165390 operating system well
3tvwBScYzJM-00672-00165391-00165575 i i think there's a there's a there's a
3tvwBScYzJM-00673-00165576-00165766 difference in the level of specificity
3tvwBScYzJM-00674-00165767-00165943 there and i i
3tvwBScYzJM-00675-00165944-00166151 i see your point i'm i'm not sure that
3tvwBScYzJM-00676-00166152-00166263 i'm
3tvwBScYzJM-00677-00166264-00166438 able to articulate what how i see the
3tvwBScYzJM-00678-00166439-00166607 difference there so the
3tvwBScYzJM-00679-00166608-00166799 peppers are challenging you a little bit
3tvwBScYzJM-00680-00166800-00166999 i'm not sure that that distinction is as
3tvwBScYzJM-00681-00167000-00167159 clear as you want to make it
3tvwBScYzJM-00682-00167160-00167478 so one place one one place that it's a
3tvwBScYzJM-00683-00167479-00167638 little bit more clear
3tvwBScYzJM-00684-00167639-00167990 is i can let's take python and machine
3tvwBScYzJM-00685-00167991-00168263 learning and let's talk about tensorflow
3tvwBScYzJM-00686-00168264-00168543 whenever linux kernels upgrade then
3tvwBScYzJM-00687-00168544-00168726 eventually the platforms like ubuntu or
3tvwBScYzJM-00688-00168727-00168966 fedora do an upgrade
3tvwBScYzJM-00689-00168967-00169214 generally speaking the released
3tvwBScYzJM-00690-00169215-00169454 long-term support version of ubuntu is
3tvwBScYzJM-00691-00169455-00169775 at least one whole version behind in
3tvwBScYzJM-00692-00169776-00170071 python support because all of the
3tvwBScYzJM-00693-00170072-00170207 machine learning libraries like
3tvwBScYzJM-00694-00170208-00170414 tensorflow and pytorch
3tvwBScYzJM-00695-00170415-00170775 rely on the updates of these
3tvwBScYzJM-00696-00170776-00171119 these um fortran and
3tvwBScYzJM-00697-00171120-00171326 other compilers you know fortran
3tvwBScYzJM-00698-00171327-00171454 compiler
3tvwBScYzJM-00699-00171455-00171623 so there's all these dependencies on
3tvwBScYzJM-00700-00171624-00171783 compilers that haven't been updated yet
3tvwBScYzJM-00701-00171784-00171902 so
3tvwBScYzJM-00702-00171903-00172126 i can run my software on any version of
3tvwBScYzJM-00703-00172127-00172311 ubuntu or fedora
3tvwBScYzJM-00704-00172312-00172702 but there's sort of an implicit
3tvwBScYzJM-00705-00172703-00172911 lag because i use machine learning in
3tvwBScYzJM-00706-00172912-00173071 the python upgrade
3tvwBScYzJM-00707-00173072-00173414 but that is also tied to the
3tvwBScYzJM-00708-00173415-00173607 linux platform because ubuntu still
3tvwBScYzJM-00709-00173608-00173778 doesn't distribute
3tvwBScYzJM-00710-00173779-00174007 python39 on its long-term support
3tvwBScYzJM-00711-00174008-00174190 platforms because
3tvwBScYzJM-00712-00174191-00174366 tensorflow and pytorch and all those
3tvwBScYzJM-00713-00174367-00174559 other libraries don't yet support python
3tvwBScYzJM-00714-00174560-00174887 3.9
3tvwBScYzJM-00715-00174888-00175031 although that seems to be changing in
3tvwBScYzJM-00716-00175032-00175214 the past few weeks i think
3tvwBScYzJM-00717-00175215-00175463 very very soon do you see my point like
3tvwBScYzJM-00718-00175464-00175678 it's it's i can always run it on the
3tvwBScYzJM-00719-00175679-00176014 linux versions but there's a python
3tvwBScYzJM-00720-00176015-00176135 explicit requirement
3tvwBScYzJM-00721-00176136-00176390 that has to be in a certain range like
3tvwBScYzJM-00722-00176391-00176543 forever right now it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00723-00176544-00176702 up to three where you support up through
3tvwBScYzJM-00724-00176703-00176919 38.x
3tvwBScYzJM-00725-00176920-00177247 and once pi torch and tensorflow support
3tvwBScYzJM-00726-00177248-00177478 three nine will support three nine all
3tvwBScYzJM-00727-00177479-00177726 right so uh but see
3tvwBScYzJM-00728-00177727-00177863 it's not even clear that so much
3tvwBScYzJM-00729-00177864-00178031 interpretive language it's really the
3tvwBScYzJM-00730-00178032-00178135 run time
3tvwBScYzJM-00731-00178136-00178599 are we including the run time
3tvwBScYzJM-00732-00178600-00178735 i guess having had a second to think
3tvwBScYzJM-00733-00178736-00179023 about it david i would i would say that
3tvwBScYzJM-00734-00179024-00179190 node applications that are running on
3tvwBScYzJM-00735-00179191-00179366 something that isn't
3tvwBScYzJM-00736-00179367-00179678 got to be an edge case right i'm sorry
3tvwBScYzJM-00737-00179679-00179751 what
3tvwBScYzJM-00738-00179752-00179951 an old application that's being run by
3tvwBScYzJM-00739-00179952-00180111 something that isn't node
3tvwBScYzJM-00740-00180112-00180407 that's got to be an edge case less so
3tvwBScYzJM-00741-00180408-00180526 for python
3tvwBScYzJM-00742-00180527-00180814 uh there are there are significant see
3tvwBScYzJM-00743-00180815-00180999 python's the most popular
3tvwBScYzJM-00744-00181000-00181263 but it's not certainly not the only one
3tvwBScYzJM-00745-00181264-00181375 same for ruby
3tvwBScYzJM-00746-00181376-00181663 there are there's a a common most common
3tvwBScYzJM-00747-00181664-00181790 implementation
3tvwBScYzJM-00748-00181791-00182135 but there are others that's not true for
3tvwBScYzJM-00749-00182136-00182535 uh some other languages though um
3tvwBScYzJM-00750-00182536-00182751 you know there are languages c being one
3tvwBScYzJM-00751-00182752-00182911 for example
3tvwBScYzJM-00752-00182912-00183190 where you absolutely might use different
3tvwBScYzJM-00753-00183191-00183311 compilers
3tvwBScYzJM-00754-00183312-00183719 okay c yes c is an example where
3tvwBScYzJM-00755-00183720-00183951 if like if i can't find a distribution
3tvwBScYzJM-00756-00183952-00184087 for the combination of different
3tvwBScYzJM-00757-00184088-00184254 dependencies i have
3tvwBScYzJM-00758-00184255-00184431 oftentimes pi pi is going to pull down
3tvwBScYzJM-00759-00184432-00184575 the source code for that library and
3tvwBScYzJM-00760-00184576-00184838 compile it and see
3tvwBScYzJM-00761-00184839-00185135 during my install so things that are
3tvwBScYzJM-00762-00185136-00185231 compiled and c
3tvwBScYzJM-00763-00185232-00185526 do seem to they exist in that form so
3tvwBScYzJM-00764-00185527-00185743 that you can overcome other dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-00765-00185744-00185863 it seems
3tvwBScYzJM-00766-00185864-00186223 is that fair all right so basically i
3tvwBScYzJM-00767-00186224-00186399 think for the purposes of this i mean
3tvwBScYzJM-00768-00186400-00186575 the question is just are we including
3tvwBScYzJM-00769-00186576-00186663 the run time
3tvwBScYzJM-00770-00186664-00186887 right that's really that that's all we
3tvwBScYzJM-00771-00186888-00187023 want to care about you know
3tvwBScYzJM-00772-00187024-00187199 and what in fact we can go further don't
3tvwBScYzJM-00773-00187200-00187519 we including the language run time
3tvwBScYzJM-00774-00187520-00188007 um in
3tvwBScYzJM-00775-00188008-00188495 language run time and default
3tvwBScYzJM-00776-00188496-00188950 uh default language libraries
3tvwBScYzJM-00777-00188951-00189326 and i presume normally no the
3tvwBScYzJM-00778-00189327-00189478 i don't know default what are default
3tvwBScYzJM-00779-00189479-00189695 language libraries just
3tvwBScYzJM-00780-00189696-00189983 like uh python has a batteries included
3tvwBScYzJM-00781-00189984-00190063 construct
3tvwBScYzJM-00782-00190064-00190423 right um so you know if you import
3tvwBScYzJM-00783-00190424-00190719 of a library technically that's a
3tvwBScYzJM-00784-00190720-00190838 dependency
3tvwBScYzJM-00785-00190839-00191119 right but if you're importing re in
3tvwBScYzJM-00786-00191120-00191190 python
3tvwBScYzJM-00787-00191191-00191350 right the regular expression library
3tvwBScYzJM-00788-00191351-00191535 that's built into the
3tvwBScYzJM-00789-00191536-00191750 you you can't have something called
3tvwBScYzJM-00790-00191751-00191926 python without that library
3tvwBScYzJM-00791-00191927-00192095 yeah are you gonna include that in the
3tvwBScYzJM-00792-00192096-00192319 count probably not
3tvwBScYzJM-00793-00192320-00192638 well it depends i mean if i had a choice
3tvwBScYzJM-00794-00192639-00192823 or if i thought about it for 10 seconds
3tvwBScYzJM-00795-00192824-00192911 i think you're right
3tvwBScYzJM-00796-00192912-00193271 probably not when i do pip freeze though
3tvwBScYzJM-00797-00193272-00193502 i think it doesn't tell me those library
3tvwBScYzJM-00798-00193503-00193623 versions
3tvwBScYzJM-00799-00193624-00193959 for the for like re
3tvwBScYzJM-00800-00193960-00194017 um
3tvwBScYzJM-00801-00194018-00194375 [Music]
3tvwBScYzJM-00802-00194376-00194631 just see here all right i want to split
3tvwBScYzJM-00803-00194632-00194750 these up because i think these are
3tvwBScYzJM-00804-00194751-00194990 different questions
3tvwBScYzJM-00805-00194991-00195126 you know are you going to include the
3tvwBScYzJM-00806-00195127-00195335 pipe are you including the language
3tvwBScYzJM-00807-00195336-00195407 runtime
3tvwBScYzJM-00808-00195408-00195647 probably should list that first are you
3tvwBScYzJM-00809-00195648-00195831 including the default libraries in the
3tvwBScYzJM-00810-00195832-00195959 account
3tvwBScYzJM-00811-00195960-00196566 uh i would say default now you know eg
3tvwBScYzJM-00812-00196567-00196926 for example re in python
3tvwBScYzJM-00813-00196927-00197078 and i think normally you wouldn't
3tvwBScYzJM-00814-00197079-00197238 because typically
3tvwBScYzJM-00815-00197239-00197495 you are asking a package manager and
3tvwBScYzJM-00816-00197496-00197599 package managers
3tvwBScYzJM-00817-00197600-00197863 normally don't manage that stuff because
3tvwBScYzJM-00818-00197864-00198063 there's nothing for them to manage
3tvwBScYzJM-00819-00198064-00198350 right yeah like i just double checked
3tvwBScYzJM-00820-00198351-00198463 pip freeze does not
3tvwBScYzJM-00821-00198464-00198687 include anything that is compiled with
3tvwBScYzJM-00822-00198688-00198790 the python like
3tvwBScYzJM-00823-00198791-00199159 re right um or cis like none of those
3tvwBScYzJM-00824-00199160-00199366 and it would make sense i mean yeah it
3tvwBScYzJM-00825-00199367-00199463 is what it is
3tvwBScYzJM-00826-00199464-00199719 if you're gonna run on python there's a
3tvwBScYzJM-00827-00199720-00199814 separate system
3tvwBScYzJM-00828-00199815-00199999 for creating a virtual environment to
3tvwBScYzJM-00829-00200000-00200190 freeze a particular version of the
3tvwBScYzJM-00830-00200191-00200343 runtime
3tvwBScYzJM-00831-00200344-00200654 and that by implication would freeze
3tvwBScYzJM-00832-00200655-00200814 not just the runtime but also the
3tvwBScYzJM-00833-00200815-00201038 libraries from the language
3tvwBScYzJM-00834-00201039-00201295 yeah so if you tell it you're going to
3tvwBScYzJM-00835-00201296-00201526 run in python 3.8
3tvwBScYzJM-00836-00201527-00201790 and you you use vnv or something else to
3tvwBScYzJM-00837-00201791-00201902 switch to that
3tvwBScYzJM-00838-00201903-00202254 rbemv in the ruby world um
3tvwBScYzJM-00839-00202255-00202495 that'll switch both the runtime and the
3tvwBScYzJM-00840-00202496-00203083 default language libraries
3tvwBScYzJM-00841-00203084-00203319 yeah that's the week's defaults they're
3tvwBScYzJM-00842-00203320-00204647 built in
3tvwBScYzJM-00843-00204648-00204966 how's that is that clear
3tvwBScYzJM-00844-00204967-00205319 yes so now we we
3tvwBScYzJM-00845-00205319-00205614 so now you can ask that question i'm
3tvwBScYzJM-00846-00205615-00205831 suggesting normally you wouldn't include
3tvwBScYzJM-00847-00205832-00205919 them but
3tvwBScYzJM-00848-00205919-00208119 you obviously could right
3tvwBScYzJM-00849-00208119-00208238 i'm gonna call them free with the
3tvwBScYzJM-00850-00208239-00208806 language libraries
3tvwBScYzJM-00851-00208807-00209046 call them included but i'll i don't know
3tvwBScYzJM-00852-00209048-00209119 let me treat
3tvwBScYzJM-00853-00209119-00209494 fredo included okay but yes
3tvwBScYzJM-00854-00209496-00209846 i i agree with the point so duane
3tvwBScYzJM-00855-00209848-00209998 to the challenge that you and i have
3tvwBScYzJM-00856-00210000-00210327 been have discussed before it seems that
3tvwBScYzJM-00857-00210328-00210582 one would hope for some standard way of
3tvwBScYzJM-00858-00210583-00210631 knowing
3tvwBScYzJM-00859-00210632-00210903 or being able to articulate or enumerate
3tvwBScYzJM-00860-00210904-00211046 the dependencies that
3tvwBScYzJM-00861-00211048-00211371 are implicit so obviously i think
3tvwBScYzJM-00862-00211371-00211606 python3.x is implicit
3tvwBScYzJM-00863-00211607-00211887 if i'm including python libraries in
3tvwBScYzJM-00864-00211888-00211998 most cases
3tvwBScYzJM-00865-00212000-00212639 2.x and some increasingly rare cases
3tvwBScYzJM-00866-00212640-00212846 and i don't know if anybody is there a
3tvwBScYzJM-00867-00212848-00213023 way that these kinds of
3tvwBScYzJM-00868-00213023-00213423 sort of i want the the not
3tvwBScYzJM-00869-00213423-00213646 the not managed by package managers the
3tvwBScYzJM-00870-00213648-00213831 sort of hey you've got to have this
3tvwBScYzJM-00871-00213832-00214055 stuff stuff that's usually in a readme
3tvwBScYzJM-00872-00214056-00214255 is there any standard way of making a
3tvwBScYzJM-00873-00214256-00214367 note of that
3tvwBScYzJM-00874-00214367-00214551 sure people uh those that's those are
3tvwBScYzJM-00875-00214552-00214767 called virtual environments
3tvwBScYzJM-00876-00214767-00215046 i will point you to this in python i
3tvwBScYzJM-00877-00215048-00215134 will give you
3tvwBScYzJM-00878-00215135-00215494 a link in there uh okay
3tvwBScYzJM-00879-00215496-00215798 typically controlled uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00880-00215800-00216094 uh typically often controlled by virtual
3tvwBScYzJM-00881-00216096-00216215 environments
3tvwBScYzJM-00882-00216216-00216382 i mean i have virtual environments that
3tvwBScYzJM-00883-00216383-00216575 i use with python but i don't ship any
3tvwBScYzJM-00884-00216576-00216623 of them
3tvwBScYzJM-00885-00216623-00217206 everybody builds it on their own is the
3tvwBScYzJM-00886-00217207-00217294 selection
3tvwBScYzJM-00887-00217296-00217623 of it though is absolutely controlled uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00888-00217623-00217815 eg
3tvwBScYzJM-00889-00217816-00218223 uh v-e-n-v in python
3tvwBScYzJM-00890-00218223-00218606 okay uh then there's tools like rbe and
3tvwBScYzJM-00891-00218607-00218646 v
3tvwBScYzJM-00892-00218648-00218846 and there's there's two of them in in
3tvwBScYzJM-00893-00218848-00218998 the ruby ruby of course there are
3tvwBScYzJM-00894-00219000-00219246 there's 11 in the r world
3tvwBScYzJM-00895-00219248-00219575 uh yeah one nice thing in ruby in the
3tvwBScYzJM-00896-00219576-00219775 gem files these days you can specify the
3tvwBScYzJM-00897-00219776-00220158 language runtime as well yes you can
3tvwBScYzJM-00898-00220159-00220494 yes that's right so uh rb
3tvwBScYzJM-00899-00220496-00221263 env in ruby
3tvwBScYzJM-00900-00221264-00222271 yeah in ruby
3tvwBScYzJM-00901-00222271-00222934 so to to but to follow up
3tvwBScYzJM-00902-00222935-00223327 i am not currently
3tvwBScYzJM-00903-00223328-00223671 aware even these things aside
3tvwBScYzJM-00904-00223671-00223879 um sean i think i'm answering your
3tvwBScYzJM-00905-00223880-00224006 question here
3tvwBScYzJM-00906-00224007-00224367 of a standard way that this information
3tvwBScYzJM-00907-00224367-00224679 is included as part of a project
3tvwBScYzJM-00908-00224680-00225071 right like there's not a a correlating
3tvwBScYzJM-00909-00225071-00225310 manifest that is typically shipped in a
3tvwBScYzJM-00910-00225311-00225446 project that you can
3tvwBScYzJM-00911-00225448-00225646 inspect and get this information you can
3tvwBScYzJM-00912-00225648-00225758 get at it
3tvwBScYzJM-00913-00225759-00226023 on an environment by environment basis
3tvwBScYzJM-00914-00226023-00226175 um
3tvwBScYzJM-00915-00226176-00226527 but like not that i've encountered
3tvwBScYzJM-00916-00226528-00226734 and and sophia this is sort of related
3tvwBScYzJM-00917-00226735-00226951 to the conversation oh that's it that's
3tvwBScYzJM-00918-00226952-00227127 that that is a language specific
3tvwBScYzJM-00919-00227128-00227271 question right uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00920-00227271-00227510 i you know so for example in ruby it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00921-00227511-00227679 actually pretty straightforward
3tvwBScYzJM-00922-00227680-00227871 um you're supposed to put that in dot
3tvwBScYzJM-00923-00227871-00228055 ruby dash version
3tvwBScYzJM-00924-00228056-00228351 and a file and then you're done uh
3tvwBScYzJM-00925-00228352-00228398 typically
3tvwBScYzJM-00926-00228400-00228591 that's reference from the file called
3tvwBScYzJM-00927-00228592-00228798 gem file which is your list
3tvwBScYzJM-00928-00228800-00229034 it's the unlocked list of libraries or
3tvwBScYzJM-00929-00229035-00229182 gemfile.lock
3tvwBScYzJM-00930-00229183-00229455 which is the locked list right and then
3tvwBScYzJM-00931-00229456-00229527 you're done
3tvwBScYzJM-00932-00229528-00230094 uh so there so within the ruby ecosystem
3tvwBScYzJM-00933-00230096-00230310 uh there's a standard uh convention for
3tvwBScYzJM-00934-00230311-00230510 it you're absolutely right though that
3tvwBScYzJM-00935-00230511-00230646 in other systems there's
3tvwBScYzJM-00936-00230648-00230903 absolutely no standard way to record
3tvwBScYzJM-00937-00230904-00231006 that information
3tvwBScYzJM-00938-00231007-00231263 right and and it kind of makes sense
3tvwBScYzJM-00939-00231264-00231446 that it would be language specific
3tvwBScYzJM-00940-00231448-00231606 uh i think we could make a very good
3tvwBScYzJM-00941-00231607-00231791 case that languages which
3tvwBScYzJM-00942-00231792-00231958 don't have such a system should have
3tvwBScYzJM-00943-00231959-00232151 start i should switch and start having
3tvwBScYzJM-00944-00232152-00232239 one
3tvwBScYzJM-00945-00232240-00232463 exactly and and this is this is sort of
3tvwBScYzJM-00946-00232464-00232606 the like i don't think it's that
3tvwBScYzJM-00947-00232607-00232694 different from
3tvwBScYzJM-00948-00232696-00232879 package manifests that are all language
3tvwBScYzJM-00949-00232880-00233079 specific anyway but the conventions have
3tvwBScYzJM-00950-00233080-00233134 converts
3tvwBScYzJM-00951-00233135-00233303 across language ecosystems that you
3tvwBScYzJM-00952-00233304-00233519 include them in the wreath right
3tvwBScYzJM-00953-00233519-00233871 um one of the things that we did
3tvwBScYzJM-00954-00233871-00234087 to get at some of this information for
3tvwBScYzJM-00955-00234088-00234271 the purposes of mariner and doing our
3tvwBScYzJM-00956-00234271-00234351 own analysis
3tvwBScYzJM-00957-00234352-00234742 is is for the python project we have
3tvwBScYzJM-00958-00234744-00235015 uh you know a script that you can run in
3tvwBScYzJM-00959-00235016-00235151 the environment that just
3tvwBScYzJM-00960-00235152-00235431 exports some of those standard variables
3tvwBScYzJM-00961-00235432-00235510 and then
3tvwBScYzJM-00962-00235511-00235671 like a custom little bit of code to
3tvwBScYzJM-00963-00235671-00235863 consume them but
3tvwBScYzJM-00964-00235864-00236151 in terms of trying to figure out how to
3tvwBScYzJM-00965-00236152-00236342 stack the importance of those
3tvwBScYzJM-00966-00236344-00236542 against the importance of package level
3tvwBScYzJM-00967-00236544-00236710 dependencies that are included all over
3tvwBScYzJM-00968-00236711-00236831 the place
3tvwBScYzJM-00969-00236832-00237046 it's very much a an apples and origins
3tvwBScYzJM-00970-00237048-00237175 thing like these are right
3tvwBScYzJM-00971-00237176-00237334 this applies everywhere that python is
3tvwBScYzJM-00972-00237335-00237534 used how important is that to you well
3tvwBScYzJM-00973-00237535-00237815 pretty freaking important obviously yeah
3tvwBScYzJM-00974-00237816-00237982 python is actually in many ways
3tvwBScYzJM-00975-00237983-00238310 one of the worst um i mean
3tvwBScYzJM-00976-00238311-00238510 recently c and c plus plus are probably
3tvwBScYzJM-00977-00238511-00238639 the worst and then it's
3tvwBScYzJM-00978-00238640-00238815 python's the worst and then you have
3tvwBScYzJM-00979-00238816-00239006 other systems yeah well and
3tvwBScYzJM-00980-00239007-00239319 pi pi pi actually has started to
3tvwBScYzJM-00981-00239319-00239575 increase the logic for its refusal to
3tvwBScYzJM-00982-00239576-00239742 compile incompatible libraries or
3tvwBScYzJM-00983-00239744-00239998 dependencies it used to just compile it
3tvwBScYzJM-00984-00240000-00240198 straight up with no questions and over
3tvwBScYzJM-00985-00240200-00240398 the last six months to a year
3tvwBScYzJM-00986-00240400-00240582 and especially in the last six weeks
3tvwBScYzJM-00987-00240583-00240806 about four to six weeks i've seen
3tvwBScYzJM-00988-00240807-00241071 my pie pie build failures increase
3tvwBScYzJM-00989-00241071-00241151 dramatically
3tvwBScYzJM-00990-00241152-00241287 so they're starting to break more and
3tvwBScYzJM-00991-00241288-00241487 more stuff um
3tvwBScYzJM-00992-00241488-00241671 if you have incompatible libraries in
3tvwBScYzJM-00993-00241671-00241791 your build
3tvwBScYzJM-00994-00241792-00242182 right um which is nice it's helpful
3tvwBScYzJM-00995-00242183-00242494 well awful short term it's going to be
3tvwBScYzJM-00996-00242496-00242606 good long term
3tvwBScYzJM-00997-00242607-00242927 if you can survive that long it's pretty
3tvwBScYzJM-00998-00242928-00242982 easy to
3tvwBScYzJM-00999-00242983-00243175 like as long as you've done some level
3tvwBScYzJM-01000-00243176-00243375 of if you've never managed that on your
3tvwBScYzJM-01001-00243376-00243519 project then it's going to be a big
3tvwBScYzJM-01002-00243519-00243742 hurdle but right if you've mostly
3tvwBScYzJM-01003-00243744-00243982 managed it like we have then it's
3tvwBScYzJM-01004-00243983-00244158 just a few small things that peak up
3tvwBScYzJM-01005-00244159-00244351 it's nice to get notified when something
3tvwBScYzJM-01006-00244352-00244479 changes
3tvwBScYzJM-01007-00244480-00244830 um the solution is lock files then
3tvwBScYzJM-01008-00244831-00245039 you know what everyone then you at least
3tvwBScYzJM-01009-00245040-00245327 have one set that note is known to work
3tvwBScYzJM-01010-00245328-00245734 and then repeat um disaster
3tvwBScYzJM-01011-00245735-00245951 i'm sorry with set up that pie we just
3tvwBScYzJM-01012-00245952-00246142 lock down the explicit version of every
3tvwBScYzJM-01013-00246144-00246294 library
3tvwBScYzJM-01014-00246296-00246582 right right and but the question is does
3tvwBScYzJM-01015-00246583-00246679 your system
3tvwBScYzJM-01016-00246680-00246982 can you actually believe it um
3tvwBScYzJM-01017-00246983-00247239 right sometimes i wonder honestly it's
3tvwBScYzJM-01018-00247240-00247398 like and i have no way to like dig deep
3tvwBScYzJM-01019-00247400-00247646 and check that but sometimes i do wonder
3tvwBScYzJM-01020-00247648-00248046 yeah um i was i was
3tvwBScYzJM-01021-00248048-00248271 gonna tap sophia on the on on the
3tvwBScYzJM-01022-00248271-00248358 shoulder there because
3tvwBScYzJM-01023-00248359-00248582 we had a conversation uh a while back
3tvwBScYzJM-01024-00248583-00248758 that that was
3tvwBScYzJM-01025-00248759-00249134 a little related to this um and and
3tvwBScYzJM-01026-00249135-00249310 one of the things that we're going to do
3tvwBScYzJM-01027-00249311-00249487 but haven't done yet is
3tvwBScYzJM-01028-00249488-00249694 is attempt to crawl through the
3tvwBScYzJM-01029-00249696-00249879 container registry that we have and see
3tvwBScYzJM-01030-00249880-00250063 what we can get out of that
3tvwBScYzJM-01031-00250064-00250191 it's going to give us some of these
3tvwBScYzJM-01032-00250192-00250310 things but it's obviously not going to
3tvwBScYzJM-01033-00250311-00250479 give us everything and sophie i didn't
3tvwBScYzJM-01034-00250480-00250630 know if you had any any other insights
3tvwBScYzJM-01035-00250631-00251142 you might want to add here
3tvwBScYzJM-01036-00251144-00251188 no
3tvwBScYzJM-01037-00251189-00251446 [Laughter]
3tvwBScYzJM-01038-00251448-00251646 but look google has this amazing new
3tvwBScYzJM-01039-00251648-00251782 tool
3tvwBScYzJM-01040-00251783-00252127 no yeah i'm just trying to think of
3tvwBScYzJM-01041-00252128-00252198 other ways
3tvwBScYzJM-01042-00252200-00252430 that like our we can generalize this
3tvwBScYzJM-01043-00252431-00252534 because i feel like we are getting
3tvwBScYzJM-01044-00252535-00252710 really specific
3tvwBScYzJM-01045-00252711-00253015 um but it it's hard to not get specific
3tvwBScYzJM-01046-00253016-00253255 when things are not organized or
3tvwBScYzJM-01047-00253256-00253430 architected in the same way
3tvwBScYzJM-01048-00253431-00253567 and of course as we're talking about pi
3tvwBScYzJM-01049-00253567-00253751 pi i went back to the infrastructure
3tvwBScYzJM-01050-00253752-00253887 combat because they had a major outage
3tvwBScYzJM-01051-00253888-00254103 this week because of fastly
3tvwBScYzJM-01052-00254104-00254463 um so pi pi's infrastructure was down so
3tvwBScYzJM-01053-00254464-00254663 yeah is it like now i'm getting ahead of
3tvwBScYzJM-01054-00254664-00254775 myself
3tvwBScYzJM-01055-00254776-00255030 ashley broke everyone though they're
3tvwBScYzJM-01056-00255031-00255103 previously
3tvwBScYzJM-01057-00255104-00255406 unknown risk to the whole ecosystem it
3tvwBScYzJM-01058-00255407-00255615 broke the ci best practices badge
3tvwBScYzJM-01059-00255616-00255815 and you know what i i as soon as i
3tvwBScYzJM-01060-00255816-00255991 discovered that i went
3tvwBScYzJM-01061-00255992-00256182 there is no way i'm even gonna try to
3tvwBScYzJM-01062-00256183-00256327 deal with that this
3tvwBScYzJM-01063-00256328-00256694 this is going to break everybody
3tvwBScYzJM-01064-00256696-00256839 nobody will notice we're down because
3tvwBScYzJM-01065-00256840-00257039 they'll notice 3 000 other sites before
3tvwBScYzJM-01066-00257040-00257215 us
3tvwBScYzJM-01067-00257216-00257463 yeah i was trying to remember that twain
3tvwBScYzJM-01068-00257464-00257598 because we were talking about other ways
3tvwBScYzJM-01069-00257600-00257679 where you
3tvwBScYzJM-01070-00257680-00257823 these kinds of things might be
3tvwBScYzJM-01071-00257823-00257991 enumerated
3tvwBScYzJM-01072-00257992-00258342 um and it might involve going a level
3tvwBScYzJM-01073-00258344-00258415 below
3tvwBScYzJM-01074-00258416-00258542 i mean you're talking about container
3tvwBScYzJM-01075-00258544-00258734 registries um versus just things that
3tvwBScYzJM-01076-00258735-00259127 are declared
3tvwBScYzJM-01077-00259128-00259367 go ahead but i i don't want that to
3tvwBScYzJM-01078-00259367-00259606 overstep the boundaries again between
3tvwBScYzJM-01079-00259607-00259782 thinking about this as being a software
3tvwBScYzJM-01080-00259783-00259967 focused
3tvwBScYzJM-01081-00259967-00260303 metric versus infrastructure okay
3tvwBScYzJM-01082-00260304-00260479 and then maybe maybe that's an argument
3tvwBScYzJM-01083-00260480-00260751 to not have the boundaries so clean
3tvwBScYzJM-01084-00260752-00260919 no no i think that's a really good
3tvwBScYzJM-01085-00260919-00261055 observation
3tvwBScYzJM-01086-00261056-00261358 you know all right so i i just added
3tvwBScYzJM-01087-00261359-00261471 another thing that just
3tvwBScYzJM-01088-00261471-00261694 i i don't know how to deal with it but
3tvwBScYzJM-01089-00261696-00261815 and there are many cases
3tvwBScYzJM-01090-00261816-00262030 you see python is typically the
3tvwBScYzJM-01091-00262031-00262206 implementation used in python but that's
3tvwBScYzJM-01092-00262207-00262399 not true for all ecosystems
3tvwBScYzJM-01093-00262400-00262582 i i present to you at the counter
3tvwBScYzJM-01094-00262583-00262863 example which is common lisp
3tvwBScYzJM-01095-00262864-00263127 one of many common common lists was a
3tvwBScYzJM-01096-00263128-00263287 whole bunch of implementations
3tvwBScYzJM-01097-00263288-00263543 and the spec is so big that if it works
3tvwBScYzJM-01098-00263544-00263895 on one it typically works on any of them
3tvwBScYzJM-01099-00263896-00264206 so you know pick one go which one's
3tvwBScYzJM-01100-00264207-00264271 fastest
3tvwBScYzJM-01101-00264272-00264495 that you wouldn't you want to use today
3tvwBScYzJM-01102-00264496-00264582 so it's
3tvwBScYzJM-01103-00264583-00264734 you know and i don't know how to solve
3tvwBScYzJM-01104-00264735-00265015 that one either but you know
3tvwBScYzJM-01105-00265016-00265263 i think for the most apart i think we're
3tvwBScYzJM-01106-00265264-00265351 we don't need to go
3tvwBScYzJM-01107-00265352-00265575 further down this rabbit hole because i
3tvwBScYzJM-01108-00265576-00265871 think most people are not going to ask
3tvwBScYzJM-01109-00265872-00266063 to count that they're going to stop
3tvwBScYzJM-01110-00266064-00266310 above the runtime environment
3tvwBScYzJM-01111-00266311-00266558 yeah so i think we acknowledge it we
3tvwBScYzJM-01112-00266559-00266703 acknowledge the complications which
3tvwBScYzJM-01113-00266704-00266799 we've done
3tvwBScYzJM-01114-00266800-00266927 probably need to clean up the language
3tvwBScYzJM-01115-00266928-00267175 but i think we can we can acknowledge it
3tvwBScYzJM-01116-00267176-00267255 and move on
3tvwBScYzJM-01117-00267256-00267599 okay i'm good with that depth.dev and
3tvwBScYzJM-01118-00267600-00267734 dubstep cloud these are two different
3tvwBScYzJM-01119-00267735-00267975 enterprises
3tvwBScYzJM-01120-00267976-00268295 there's no relation okay no um one
3tvwBScYzJM-01121-00268296-00268567 one's google when one's done okay um
3tvwBScYzJM-01122-00268568-00268839 which one is depth.dad what
3tvwBScYzJM-01123-00268840-00269063 dubs.dub is the google one but there was
3tvwBScYzJM-01124-00269064-00269215 depth.cloud which was previously
3tvwBScYzJM-01125-00269216-00269327 discussed as well
3tvwBScYzJM-01126-00269328-00269655 ah can we go back up to the
3tvwBScYzJM-01127-00269656-00269903 dependency tree numbers i'm just trying
3tvwBScYzJM-01128-00269904-00270103 to understand how to read
3tvwBScYzJM-01129-00270104-00270391 this section oh yeah one direct
3tvwBScYzJM-01130-00270392-00270558 dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-01131-00270559-00270871 two transitive two plus is indirect so
3tvwBScYzJM-01132-00270872-00270919 it's like
3tvwBScYzJM-01133-00270920-00271095 everything your direct dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-01134-00271096-00271295 depend on
3tvwBScYzJM-01135-00271296-00271534 and i guess the second one number two
3tvwBScYzJM-01136-00271535-00271630 would be
3tvwBScYzJM-01137-00271631-00271879 i have a dependency that's direct and it
3tvwBScYzJM-01138-00271880-00272087 has these other dependencies that my
3tvwBScYzJM-01139-00272088-00272382 main program doesn't have and those
3tvwBScYzJM-01140-00272383-00272543 would be the second order dependencies
3tvwBScYzJM-01141-00272544-00272615 and presumably
3tvwBScYzJM-01142-00272616-00272815 you could have third fourth fifth order
3tvwBScYzJM-01143-00272816-00272943 i think you get
3tvwBScYzJM-01144-00272944-00273239 over 90 of what you're needing to get
3tvwBScYzJM-01145-00273240-00273463 from the first two orders
3tvwBScYzJM-01146-00273464-00273727 yeah okay i just the way that it's
3tvwBScYzJM-01147-00273728-00273847 written right now i wasn't quite sure
3tvwBScYzJM-01148-00273848-00273951 how to interpret it
3tvwBScYzJM-01149-00273952-00274191 it's a little like i hope you you're
3tvwBScYzJM-01150-00274192-00274327 good at algebra right you're good at
3tvwBScYzJM-01151-00274328-00274495 abstract thinking and math right well
3tvwBScYzJM-01152-00274496-00274655 because this is abstract thinking and if
3tvwBScYzJM-01153-00274656-00274791 you you know you're not really smart at
3tvwBScYzJM-01154-00274792-00274999 math maybe you won't get it i don't know
3tvwBScYzJM-01155-00275000-00275263 so it does look it's hard to understand
3tvwBScYzJM-01156-00275264-00275406 um
3tvwBScYzJM-01157-00275407-00275582 i agree with you i was trying to agree
3tvwBScYzJM-01158-00275583-00275743 with you and be funny at the same time i
3tvwBScYzJM-01159-00275744-00275879 failed on one of those counts
3tvwBScYzJM-01160-00275880-00276127 no i mean i think it i think it does
3tvwBScYzJM-01161-00276128-00276255 make sense i guess i'm trying to think
3tvwBScYzJM-01162-00276256-00276351 of how
3tvwBScYzJM-01163-00276352-00276534 the reader who's implementing this is
3tvwBScYzJM-01164-00276535-00276671 going to interpret it
3tvwBScYzJM-01165-00276672-00276919 it's not super super easy and i think we
3tvwBScYzJM-01166-00276920-00277079 could add some graphics that would make
3tvwBScYzJM-01167-00277080-00277287 it super super easy
3tvwBScYzJM-01168-00277288-00277495 well we have those visualizations and
3tvwBScYzJM-01169-00277496-00277615 another doc
3tvwBScYzJM-01170-00277616-00277991 okay yeah but anyway maybe
3tvwBScYzJM-01171-00277992-00278215 yeah maybe here it's just because we
3tvwBScYzJM-01172-00278216-00278367 have the
3tvwBScYzJM-01173-00278368-00278543 kinds of dependencies enumerated in the
3tvwBScYzJM-01174-00278544-00278823 filters but maybe it sounds like
3tvwBScYzJM-01175-00278824-00278958 it would be more appropriate to
3tvwBScYzJM-01176-00278959-00279182 enumerate that under
3tvwBScYzJM-01177-00279183-00279351 the dependency tree so i guess it's
3tvwBScYzJM-01178-00279352-00279582 providing some
3tvwBScYzJM-01179-00279583-00280103 language to how to interpret the tree
3tvwBScYzJM-01180-00280104-00280367 tree exactly think show the tree i'm
3tvwBScYzJM-01181-00280368-00280543 just making a comment because
3tvwBScYzJM-01182-00280544-00280815 technically we're a minute over but i
3tvwBScYzJM-01183-00280816-00280887 think we've
3tvwBScYzJM-01184-00280888-00281158 done a good job of this metric is nearly
3tvwBScYzJM-01185-00281159-00281295 ready to go
3tvwBScYzJM-01186-00281296-00281599 um does anyone want to take it to do
3tvwBScYzJM-01187-00281600-00282055 to flesh it out
3tvwBScYzJM-01188-00282056-00282255 right now i'm running away from the dude
3tvwBScYzJM-01189-00282256-00282615 too many other things to do
3tvwBScYzJM-01190-00282616-00283430 yes i can do it
3tvwBScYzJM-01191-00283431-00283623 refine the language and then maybe in
3tvwBScYzJM-01192-00283624-00283767 the next meeting we just go
3tvwBScYzJM-01193-00283768-00284119 review it and uh all right i'm gonna
3tvwBScYzJM-01194-00284120-00284327 give you an action
3tvwBScYzJM-01195-00284328-00284615 i did shoot a contact at the open source
3tvwBScYzJM-01196-00284616-00284734 insight team
3tvwBScYzJM-01197-00284735-00284919 are a few questions around what's going
3tvwBScYzJM-01198-00284920-00285134 to be open source if anything in the api
3tvwBScYzJM-01199-00285135-00285167 so
3tvwBScYzJM-01200-00285168-00285351 what's the best place to reply back if i
3tvwBScYzJM-01201-00285352-00285510 hear back from them should i put that in
3tvwBScYzJM-01202-00285511-00285671 the slack or should i just
3tvwBScYzJM-01203-00285672-00285991 respond back an email um i'm in the
3tvwBScYzJM-01204-00285992-00286071 slack
3tvwBScYzJM-01205-00286072-00286287 i don't know arfan and duane are you in
3tvwBScYzJM-01206-00286288-00286415 the chaos slack
3tvwBScYzJM-01207-00286416-00286606 i'm i'm not in the slack that seems like
3tvwBScYzJM-01208-00286607-00286727 a thing i should do
3tvwBScYzJM-01209-00286728-00287030 um do we have a risk do we have a risk
3tvwBScYzJM-01210-00287031-00287206 group in there i can make a risk
3tvwBScYzJM-01211-00287207-00287439 i can make a risk group we don't i can
3tvwBScYzJM-01212-00287440-00287615 make a channel right now
3tvwBScYzJM-01213-00287616-00287847 okay so the fact that they recognize
3tvwBScYzJM-01214-00287848-00287958 that i'll put it there
3tvwBScYzJM-01215-00287959-00288087 i don't know when they're gonna get back
3tvwBScYzJM-01216-00288088-00288615 the team's in sydney australia
3tvwBScYzJM-01217-00288616-00288751 all right and i'll invite you to the
3tvwBScYzJM-01218-00288752-00289006 slack in general duane
3tvwBScYzJM-01219-00289007-00289175 if you just um i should just use your
3tvwBScYzJM-01220-00289176-00289295 indeed address or is there a different
3tvwBScYzJM-01221-00289296-00289454 address you prefer
3tvwBScYzJM-01222-00289455-00289775 the indeed address yes okay sean could
3tvwBScYzJM-01223-00289776-00289943 you invite me as well
3tvwBScYzJM-01224-00289944-00290254 i i will alyssa and wheeler you want in
3tvwBScYzJM-01225-00290255-00290439 this slack you know you do
3tvwBScYzJM-01226-00290440-00290734 yep i do i do and i just put in the uh
3tvwBScYzJM-01227-00290735-00290830 in the chat for
3tvwBScYzJM-01228-00290831-00291071 this discussion eventually someday from
3tvwBScYzJM-01229-00291072-00291287 the ci best practices badge love to link
3tvwBScYzJM-01230-00291288-00291463 to these various sites with metrics
3tvwBScYzJM-01231-00291464-00291575 about the projects
3tvwBScYzJM-01232-00291576-00291903 for sure so uh right now in that
3tvwBScYzJM-01233-00291904-00292143 issue is a list of sort sites that
3tvwBScYzJM-01234-00292144-00292230 present
3tvwBScYzJM-01235-00292231-00292495 metrics data if you know of one of a
3tvwBScYzJM-01236-00292496-00292575 good one that's
3tvwBScYzJM-01237-00292576-00292927 that is missing let me know
3tvwBScYzJM-01238-00292928-00293158 you know so there's uh depths.dev
3tvwBScYzJM-01239-00293159-00293319 there's devs.cloud
3tvwBScYzJM-01240-00293320-00293615 there's lfx insights there's so we have
3tvwBScYzJM-01241-00293616-00293679 so for
3tvwBScYzJM-01242-00293680-00294030 for chaos we have a auger site and a
3tvwBScYzJM-01243-00294031-00294279 gremore lab site that can introspect on
3tvwBScYzJM-01244-00294280-00294447 our own projects
3tvwBScYzJM-01245-00294448-00294751 okay so we also take requests
3tvwBScYzJM-01246-00294752-00295063 to build up metrics for a project we
3tvwBScYzJM-01247-00295064-00295247 don't have the resources to build
3tvwBScYzJM-01248-00295248-00295430 any of these metrics for every project
3tvwBScYzJM-01249-00295431-00295647 on github or gitlab for example
3tvwBScYzJM-01250-00295648-00295879 okay yeah and unfortunately that's
3tvwBScYzJM-01251-00295880-00295958 really what
3tvwBScYzJM-01252-00295959-00296327 i'm looking for but um partner with us
3tvwBScYzJM-01253-00296328-00296399 and have us
3tvwBScYzJM-01254-00296400-00296830 do that with github okay
3tvwBScYzJM-01255-00296831-00297039 i was saying that we don't have a chaos
3tvwBScYzJM-01256-00297040-00297199 metric site that looks at for example
3tvwBScYzJM-01257-00297200-00297382 every project on github but
3tvwBScYzJM-01258-00297383-00297534 we could partner with you are fond to
3tvwBScYzJM-01259-00297535-00297710 make that real
3tvwBScYzJM-01260-00297711-00298023 sounds like a good idea yeah okay we
3tvwBScYzJM-01261-00298024-00298206 could build metric sites for everything
3tvwBScYzJM-01262-00298207-00298391 on github with the help of github to get
3tvwBScYzJM-01263-00298392-00298543 the data
3tvwBScYzJM-01264-00298544-00298751 how's this um i've i've got to run off
3tvwBScYzJM-01265-00298752-00298975 because i got to give a presentation
3tvwBScYzJM-01266-00298976-00299230 and then um why don't you just add once
3tvwBScYzJM-01267-00299231-00299375 you add that comment
3tvwBScYzJM-01268-00299376-00299623 onto the issue hey you know go to this
3tvwBScYzJM-01269-00299624-00299727 site and whatever
3tvwBScYzJM-01270-00299728-00300030 and and and what you just said
3tvwBScYzJM-01271-00300031-00300334 okay all right i gotta run a pleasure
3tvwBScYzJM-01272-00300335-00300391 everybody
3tvwBScYzJM-01273-00300392-00300727 take care thanks sir thanks dave
3tvwBScYzJM-01274-00300728-00300895 yeah uh also guys for fun i'll drop you
3tvwBScYzJM-01275-00300896-00301103 an email
3tvwBScYzJM-01276-00301104-00301287 all right thank you speaker i confirmed
3tvwBScYzJM-01277-00301288-00301616 your speaker
3As9T3I5gZk-00000-00000119-00000353 in a world where even the smallest
3As9T3I5gZk-00001-00000354-00000545 disagreements can lead to arguments
3As9T3I5gZk-00002-00000546-00000755 violence and even death
3As9T3I5gZk-00003-00000756-00000947 two brothers tackle the difficult
3As9T3I5gZk-00004-00000948-00001312 subjects uh today we're going to talk
3As9T3I5gZk-00005-00001313-00001612 about the Twitter files
3As9T3I5gZk-00006-00001613-00002009 uh uh so what is your if we go back to
3As9T3I5gZk-00007-00002010-00002351 the beginning of all that stuff uh what
3As9T3I5gZk-00008-00002352-00002657 what is your understanding of how it
3As9T3I5gZk-00009-00002658-00002963 came about and and what it is
3As9T3I5gZk-00010-00002964-00003155 or do you want me to cover that so you
3As9T3I5gZk-00011-00003156-00003269 can chew
3As9T3I5gZk-00012-00003270-00003472 I'm okay okay
3As9T3I5gZk-00013-00003473-00003725 um so my understanding is that when he
3As9T3I5gZk-00014-00003726-00003870 took over
3As9T3I5gZk-00015-00003871-00004295 he chose a number of journalists
3As9T3I5gZk-00016-00004296-00004486 and then gave them a
3As9T3I5gZk-00017-00004487-00004745 a dump of information
3As9T3I5gZk-00018-00004746-00004985 and it seems from what the journalists
3As9T3I5gZk-00019-00004986-00005159 were saying and what what he was saying
3As9T3I5gZk-00020-00005160-00005399 that it wasn't as if they had free reign
3As9T3I5gZk-00021-00005400-00005567 of the organization where they just went
3As9T3I5gZk-00022-00005568-00005825 in and started you know picking through
3As9T3I5gZk-00023-00005826-00005981 everything and just picking and choosing
3As9T3I5gZk-00024-00005982-00006106 what they wanted
3As9T3I5gZk-00025-00006107-00006460 it was somewhat curated in fact for them
3As9T3I5gZk-00026-00006461-00006719 in fact uh at one point
3As9T3I5gZk-00027-00006720-00006917 where's the guy I think it was Jim Baker
3As9T3I5gZk-00028-00006918-00007120 was the guy that used to work for the
3As9T3I5gZk-00029-00007122-00007396 FBI and he was still the legal counsel
3As9T3I5gZk-00030-00007397-00007739 for Twitter and they were getting some
3As9T3I5gZk-00031-00007740-00008045 of the information through him
3As9T3I5gZk-00032-00008045-00008260 um I think he was subsequently let go or
3As9T3I5gZk-00033-00008261-00008471 something like that or fired and
3As9T3I5gZk-00034-00008472-00008957 but anyway I guess it wasn't uh as open
3As9T3I5gZk-00035-00008958-00009299 and transparent as it could have been I
3As9T3I5gZk-00036-00009300-00009401 don't know
3As9T3I5gZk-00037-00009402-00009569 maybe it would be better if it were open
3As9T3I5gZk-00038-00009570-00009683 and transparent but you kind of
3As9T3I5gZk-00039-00009684-00009814 understand why maybe they didn't want
3As9T3I5gZk-00040-00009815-00009935 that I don't know what their motivations
3As9T3I5gZk-00041-00009936-00010235 were but uh so anyway but then there
3As9T3I5gZk-00042-00010236-00010499 were a number of uh people like Matt
3As9T3I5gZk-00043-00010500-00010810 taibi Barry Weiss Michael schellenberger
3As9T3I5gZk-00044-00010811-00011063 who I like a lot
3As9T3I5gZk-00045-00011064-00011237 um that went through and other guys and
3As9T3I5gZk-00046-00011238-00011441 other people that went through uh that
3As9T3I5gZk-00047-00011442-00011674 information kind of gave a download of
3As9T3I5gZk-00048-00011675-00011855 what they had found
3As9T3I5gZk-00049-00011856-00012160 and it was just sort of through their
3As9T3I5gZk-00050-00012161-00012437 uh prism of understanding or because
3As9T3I5gZk-00051-00012438-00012610 first it was curated in what was given
3As9T3I5gZk-00052-00012611-00012827 to them and then it was you know as as
3As9T3I5gZk-00053-00012828-00013043 any news story is then they presented
3As9T3I5gZk-00054-00013044-00013186 what they thought was the most important
3As9T3I5gZk-00055-00013187-00013480 uh but then they gave some information
3As9T3I5gZk-00056-00013481-00013697 um about a lot of different things about
3As9T3I5gZk-00057-00013697-00014057 the FBI's involvement in some of the
3As9T3I5gZk-00058-00014058-00014338 um controlling of stories that came out
3As9T3I5gZk-00059-00014340-00014615 of Twitter they gave uh some of the
3As9T3I5gZk-00060-00014616-00014866 methodologies that were used to
3As9T3I5gZk-00061-00014868-00015235 uh reduce the reach of certain Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00062-00015236-00015607 users and uh certain stories
3As9T3I5gZk-00063-00015608-00015766 anyways I thought it was pretty
3As9T3I5gZk-00064-00015768-00015953 interesting but uh that's my
3As9T3I5gZk-00065-00015954-00016144 understanding is that a pretty good
3As9T3I5gZk-00066-00016145-00016565 synopsis yeah uh and so I heard an
3As9T3I5gZk-00067-00016566-00016786 interview with uh uh Barry Weiss and
3As9T3I5gZk-00068-00016787-00016907 Michael schellenberger and they were
3As9T3I5gZk-00069-00016908-00017080 talking about the process and and they
3As9T3I5gZk-00070-00017081-00017465 said in some ways it's it's uh more than
3As9T3I5gZk-00071-00017466-00017608 they would normally get because they
3As9T3I5gZk-00072-00017609-00017963 would submit a query to someone that had
3As9T3I5gZk-00073-00017964-00018149 access to the databases and they would
3As9T3I5gZk-00074-00018150-00018280 say for example give me all
3As9T3I5gZk-00075-00018281-00018679 Communications that might mention uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00076-00018680-00019000 Mar-A-Lago subpoena and so then anything
3As9T3I5gZk-00077-00019001-00019277 that came out from within the
3As9T3I5gZk-00078-00019278-00019486 organization within Twitter that was
3As9T3I5gZk-00079-00019487-00019691 mentioned in emails that was mentioned
3As9T3I5gZk-00080-00019692-00020027 in the the slack channels
3As9T3I5gZk-00081-00020028-00020321 that contained the words or phrases they
3As9T3I5gZk-00082-00020322-00020494 put out there and then they would go and
3As9T3I5gZk-00083-00020495-00020680 they'd filter through
3As9T3I5gZk-00084-00020681-00020855 um and
3As9T3I5gZk-00085-00020856-00021035 they said that at the beginning when
3As9T3I5gZk-00086-00021036-00021244 this uh Baker character was there they
3As9T3I5gZk-00087-00021245-00021467 felt like information wasn't coming
3As9T3I5gZk-00088-00021468-00021629 through and so they felt like they were
3As9T3I5gZk-00089-00021630-00021803 it was being filtered but since he was
3As9T3I5gZk-00090-00021804-00022078 removed from the process they said it
3As9T3I5gZk-00091-00022079-00022222 appeared it seemed like they were
3As9T3I5gZk-00092-00022223-00022385 getting everything there was not the
3As9T3I5gZk-00093-00022386-00022517 impression that anything was being left
3As9T3I5gZk-00094-00022518-00022763 out the challenge with that process
3As9T3I5gZk-00095-00022764-00022877 though
3As9T3I5gZk-00096-00022878-00023093 is that while they have access to
3As9T3I5gZk-00097-00023094-00023249 anything that's put forward in
3As9T3I5gZk-00098-00023250-00023489 electronic communications if they found
3As9T3I5gZk-00099-00023490-00023614 something particularly interesting they
3As9T3I5gZk-00100-00023615-00023830 couldn't then go and ask the individual
3As9T3I5gZk-00101-00023831-00024053 I see you were involved in this exchange
3As9T3I5gZk-00102-00024054-00024311 can you give me more insight were there
3As9T3I5gZk-00103-00024312-00024647 conversations happening outside of this
3As9T3I5gZk-00104-00024648-00024814 communication stream that would have
3As9T3I5gZk-00105-00024815-00025025 been useful what was your reasoning for
3As9T3I5gZk-00106-00025026-00025303 doing this so in some ways it was very
3As9T3I5gZk-00107-00025304-00025625 uh insightful in some ways it was a it
3As9T3I5gZk-00108-00025626-00025877 was difficult to work with uh and the
3As9T3I5gZk-00109-00025877-00026237 other aspect to it was that it was
3As9T3I5gZk-00110-00026238-00026633 presented rather than in a long form it
3As9T3I5gZk-00111-00026633-00026855 was presented in tweet format so a bunch
3As9T3I5gZk-00112-00026856-00027179 of of broken up tweets and as I
3As9T3I5gZk-00113-00027180-00027455 mentioned to you last week I'd found
3As9T3I5gZk-00114-00027456-00027785 that one site where they they had listed
3As9T3I5gZk-00115-00027786-00027929 everything
3As9T3I5gZk-00116-00027930-00028139 um the the link that I have first of all
3As9T3I5gZk-00117-00028139-00028355 uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00118-00028356-00028511 picks out the highlights so you don't
3As9T3I5gZk-00119-00028512-00028601 have to go through the whole thing if
3As9T3I5gZk-00120-00028602-00028787 you don't want to but then it also links
3As9T3I5gZk-00121-00028788-00029135 to the entire uh chain of of tweets so
3As9T3I5gZk-00122-00029136-00029285 you could look at it from beginning to
3As9T3I5gZk-00123-00029286-00029429 end which was a little which was much
3As9T3I5gZk-00124-00029430-00029602 more useful because when you try and
3As9T3I5gZk-00125-00029604-00029807 search it on Twitter it's an it's it's
3As9T3I5gZk-00126-00029808-00030011 chaos it's it's a nightmare you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00127-00030012-00030155 Twitter isn't really designed for that
3As9T3I5gZk-00128-00030156-00030407 sort of of uh you know long form content
3As9T3I5gZk-00129-00030408-00030811 like that so it was easier for me
3As9T3I5gZk-00130-00030812-00031073 I think some of those guys uh like
3As9T3I5gZk-00131-00031074-00031331 shellenberger and others they
3As9T3I5gZk-00132-00031332-00031546 um they put out stories not on Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00133-00031547-00031864 but in other places where
3As9T3I5gZk-00134-00031866-00032183 um they it was more of a long like a sub
3As9T3I5gZk-00135-00032183-00032345 stack article or something like that
3As9T3I5gZk-00136-00032345-00032495 where they tried to summarize it and put
3As9T3I5gZk-00137-00032495-00032729 it all together so okay good yeah I was
3As9T3I5gZk-00138-00032730-00032843 having trouble finding any of that so
3As9T3I5gZk-00139-00032844-00033215 I'm glad to know that that's out there
3As9T3I5gZk-00140-00033216-00033659 so the uh the Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00141-00033660-00034277 the the
3As9T3I5gZk-00142-00034278-00034546 one of the things like the the big and
3As9T3I5gZk-00143-00034547-00034733 maybe maybe you you'll feel like there
3As9T3I5gZk-00144-00034734-00034889 was something bigger but I feel like one
3As9T3I5gZk-00145-00034890-00035218 of the big uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00146-00035219-00035423 the big pieces of information that came
3As9T3I5gZk-00147-00035424-00035729 out was that uh a lot of money was paid
3As9T3I5gZk-00148-00035730-00035902 to
3As9T3I5gZk-00149-00035903-00036046 um the FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00150-00036047-00036371 uh 3.4 million dollars paid to the FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00151-00036372-00036545 on a particular date and this was an
3As9T3I5gZk-00152-00036546-00036833 email and so then this was where it
3As9T3I5gZk-00153-00036834-00037115 created a lot of uh outside uh interest
3As9T3I5gZk-00154-00037116-00037390 in in the FBI how they were interacting
3As9T3I5gZk-00155-00037391-00037552 with Twitter what their involvement was
3As9T3I5gZk-00156-00037553-00037846 how much oversight they had how much
3As9T3I5gZk-00157-00037847-00038057 influence they had within Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00158-00038058-00038315 which is all based more or less well it
3As9T3I5gZk-00159-00038316-00038512 wasn't it was there was more to it than
3As9T3I5gZk-00160-00038513-00038693 just that but that was the big thing was
3As9T3I5gZk-00161-00038694-00039035 that uh FBI was paying Twitter for some
3As9T3I5gZk-00162-00039036-00039179 of their interactions do you want to
3As9T3I5gZk-00163-00039180-00039287 start there is there someplace else you
3As9T3I5gZk-00164-00039288-00039371 want to begin
3As9T3I5gZk-00165-00039372-00039557 uh yeah we can start there I don't know
3As9T3I5gZk-00166-00039558-00039737 if that was the biggest uh Revelation
3As9T3I5gZk-00167-00039738-00039917 but it certainly was a big one uh you
3As9T3I5gZk-00168-00039918-00040073 said originally
3As9T3I5gZk-00169-00040074-00040318 they pay the FBI but I think Humanity
3As9T3I5gZk-00170-00040319-00040571 you kind of clarified it later the FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00171-00040572-00040949 paid Twitter and it seemed like
3As9T3I5gZk-00172-00040950-00041321 um they were paying them to uh because
3As9T3I5gZk-00173-00041322-00041465 they were taking so much of their time
3As9T3I5gZk-00174-00041466-00041687 there was a there was a direct line of
3As9T3I5gZk-00175-00041688-00041890 communication between
3As9T3I5gZk-00176-00041891-00042052 um certain FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00177-00042053-00042233 I don't know if operatives is the right
3As9T3I5gZk-00178-00042234-00042551 word individuals and offices where they
3As9T3I5gZk-00179-00042552-00042683 were communicating directly with some
3As9T3I5gZk-00180-00042684-00042845 Twitter employees they were taking a lot
3As9T3I5gZk-00181-00042846-00043055 of time and because of that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00182-00043056-00043277 reimbursed them for the time that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00183-00043278-00043643 were they reimbursed Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00184-00043644-00044027 or uh the employees uh time that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00185-00044028-00044218 were using if that makes sense and yeah
3As9T3I5gZk-00186-00044219-00044508 I think that was uh certainly concerning
3As9T3I5gZk-00187-00044509-00044765 first of all that they would be involved
3As9T3I5gZk-00188-00044766-00045040 in this type of thing at all second that
3As9T3I5gZk-00189-00045041-00045262 they would pay for it um it was just an
3As9T3I5gZk-00190-00045263-00045551 odd thing and the whole uh situation was
3As9T3I5gZk-00191-00045552-00045724 very odd to me I thought it was pretty
3As9T3I5gZk-00192-00045725-00045905 inappropriate
3As9T3I5gZk-00193-00045906-00046067 um that both Twitter would allow it to
3As9T3I5gZk-00194-00046068-00046307 happen and that the FBI would want to do
3As9T3I5gZk-00195-00046308-00046565 that sort of a thing you know now okay
3As9T3I5gZk-00196-00046566-00046727 so I think this is a good place to begin
3As9T3I5gZk-00197-00046728-00046924 because there was a you know depending
3As9T3I5gZk-00198-00046925-00047140 on which side of the the conversation
3As9T3I5gZk-00199-00047141-00047446 you you align with there there was
3As9T3I5gZk-00200-00047447-00047657 either a lot to make of it or there was
3As9T3I5gZk-00201-00047658-00047915 not much to make of it and so
3As9T3I5gZk-00202-00047916-00048215 um the the actual languaging is uh in in
3As9T3I5gZk-00203-00048216-00048589 the uh Twitter uh is that the Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00204-00048590-00048827 retains the statutory right of
3As9T3I5gZk-00205-00048828-00049055 reimbursement for the cost of processing
3As9T3I5gZk-00206-00049056-00049277 requests
3As9T3I5gZk-00207-00049278-00049567 um and the uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00208-00049568-00049901 that was um noted on the check which was
3As9T3I5gZk-00209-00049902-00050111 the payment which was a reimbursement
3As9T3I5gZk-00210-00050112-00050261 for Twitter for processing legal
3As9T3I5gZk-00211-00050262-00050362 requests
3As9T3I5gZk-00212-00050363-00050561 and then Musk
3As9T3I5gZk-00213-00050562-00050830 uh claimed in a tweet that the payment
3As9T3I5gZk-00214-00050831-00051143 is proof of the US government bribing
3As9T3I5gZk-00215-00051144-00051382 the company to censor info from the
3As9T3I5gZk-00216-00051383-00051479 public
3As9T3I5gZk-00217-00051479-00051701 that was his that was uh the content of
3As9T3I5gZk-00218-00051702-00051863 his tweet and that was where a lot of
3As9T3I5gZk-00219-00051864-00052042 people on the right went with this this
3As9T3I5gZk-00220-00052044-00052326 revelation
3As9T3I5gZk-00221-00052327-00052726 uh yeah I guess uh I mean it's an odd
3As9T3I5gZk-00222-00052727-00052973 it's an odd position for them to be in
3As9T3I5gZk-00223-00052974-00053279 meaning well both meaning both the FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00224-00053279-00053423 and Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00225-00053424-00053657 that the FBI would be going and paying
3As9T3I5gZk-00226-00053658-00053830 this money to uh I mean that's a fair
3As9T3I5gZk-00227-00053832-00054053 amount of money and you can say that
3As9T3I5gZk-00228-00054054-00054144 it's
3As9T3I5gZk-00229-00054145-00054521 going to the fact and calling it a bribe
3As9T3I5gZk-00230-00054522-00054688 I don't know
3As9T3I5gZk-00231-00054689-00054988 um that seems a little bit
3As9T3I5gZk-00232-00054989-00055229 over the top to me
3As9T3I5gZk-00233-00055229-00055523 um but it does seem very inappropriate I
3As9T3I5gZk-00234-00055524-00055709 mean first of all
3As9T3I5gZk-00235-00055710-00055919 you know and I've said you know you and
3As9T3I5gZk-00236-00055920-00056080 I've talked about this a fair amount to
3As9T3I5gZk-00237-00056082-00056399 me Twitter and social media companies
3As9T3I5gZk-00238-00056400-00056729 should be a bit of a an open Forum or a
3As9T3I5gZk-00239-00056729-00056909 town square where people can come and
3As9T3I5gZk-00240-00056910-00057076 have their say
3As9T3I5gZk-00241-00057077-00057341 and when I say that that is what it
3As9T3I5gZk-00242-00057341-00057491 should be I'm not saying that the
3As9T3I5gZk-00243-00057491-00057659 government should regulate it as such
3As9T3I5gZk-00244-00057660-00057899 most companies as I've said from the
3As9T3I5gZk-00245-00057900-00058229 first can do whatever they want but I
3As9T3I5gZk-00246-00058229-00058373 think they've kind of represented
3As9T3I5gZk-00247-00058374-00058697 themselves to be that and I think that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00248-00058698-00058894 the best use case for them because
3As9T3I5gZk-00249-00058895-00059147 otherwise you know I would differentiate
3As9T3I5gZk-00250-00059148-00059423 between these uh social media companies
3As9T3I5gZk-00251-00059424-00059782 in a a Legacy Media company or even a
3As9T3I5gZk-00252-00059783-00059992 New Media company like
3As9T3I5gZk-00253-00059994-00060142 um I don't know what if you call the
3As9T3I5gZk-00254-00060144-00060347 daily wire or Breitbart or Huffington
3As9T3I5gZk-00255-00060348-00060580 Post or whatever these that are kind of
3As9T3I5gZk-00256-00060582-00060737 New Media they're not the old ones like
3As9T3I5gZk-00257-00060738-00061066 NBC CBS uh Fox News
3As9T3I5gZk-00258-00061067-00061300 um and all of those CNN
3As9T3I5gZk-00259-00061301-00061504 but uh they are different the social
3As9T3I5gZk-00260-00061505-00061637 media companies are different than all
3As9T3I5gZk-00261-00061638-00061775 these media companies because they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00262-00061776-00061913 just saying to people hey come and say
3As9T3I5gZk-00263-00061914-00062147 what you want now when the when the
3As9T3I5gZk-00264-00062148-00062476 government steps in like I mean and in a
3As9T3I5gZk-00265-00062477-00062626 similar way that it when the government
3As9T3I5gZk-00266-00062627-00062771 if the government were to step in for
3As9T3I5gZk-00267-00062772-00062950 example and say to to the New York Times
3As9T3I5gZk-00268-00062951-00063113 hey you shouldn't be printing that or we
3As9T3I5gZk-00269-00063114-00063304 want to control your stories they should
3As9T3I5gZk-00270-00063305-00063557 just stay out of that it's not their
3As9T3I5gZk-00271-00063558-00063694 responsibility
3As9T3I5gZk-00272-00063695-00063869 I don't think they should be involved in
3As9T3I5gZk-00273-00063870-00064138 that at all and even more so on a so on
3As9T3I5gZk-00274-00064139-00064361 a social media company like this because
3As9T3I5gZk-00275-00064362-00064511 people are having their say it's a town
3As9T3I5gZk-00276-00064512-00064691 square and the government should not be
3As9T3I5gZk-00277-00064691-00064925 involved in that so while it may not be
3As9T3I5gZk-00278-00064926-00065242 a bribe per se
3As9T3I5gZk-00279-00065244-00065471 um they just shouldn't be doing it and
3As9T3I5gZk-00280-00065472-00065656 the fact that they were paying that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00281-00065657-00065800 were doing it so much that they had to
3As9T3I5gZk-00282-00065801-00065993 pay uh Twitter to the tune of three
3As9T3I5gZk-00283-00065994-00066125 million three and a half million dollars
3As9T3I5gZk-00284-00066126-00066538 like that creates some uh what would you
3As9T3I5gZk-00285-00066539-00066725 say uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00286-00066726-00067153 you know that creates some uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00287-00067154-00067475 incentive for Twitter to do more for the
3As9T3I5gZk-00288-00067476-00067625 FBI than they're supposed to they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00289-00067626-00067859 becoming a paying customer so I do think
3As9T3I5gZk-00290-00067860-00068093 it's very inappropriate
3As9T3I5gZk-00291-00068094-00068297 um and bribe may be far-fetched but it's
3As9T3I5gZk-00292-00068298-00068423 not far off
3As9T3I5gZk-00293-00068424-00068603 well I mean that's like saying when you
3As9T3I5gZk-00294-00068604-00068753 go to when you go to buy food at a
3As9T3I5gZk-00295-00068754-00068909 restaurant you're buying the bribing the
3As9T3I5gZk-00296-00068910-00069131 restaurant I mean if you're paying for
3As9T3I5gZk-00297-00069132-00069293 service so I don't know I call it a
3As9T3I5gZk-00298-00069294-00069382 bribe
3As9T3I5gZk-00299-00069383-00069647 right but when you're at a restaurant I
3As9T3I5gZk-00300-00069648-00069826 mean that'd be like saying well I can go
3As9T3I5gZk-00301-00069827-00070115 uh make huge donations to uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00302-00070116-00070306 um a politician and I'm just I'm not
3As9T3I5gZk-00303-00070307-00070450 paying for service I'm just making
3As9T3I5gZk-00304-00070451-00070613 donation to their campaign and I'm not
3As9T3I5gZk-00305-00070614-00070756 bribing the restaurant I'm not bribing
3As9T3I5gZk-00306-00070757-00070925 the politician but it's certainly going
3As9T3I5gZk-00307-00070926-00071188 to have an effect so it while it may not
3As9T3I5gZk-00308-00071189-00071375 be the same as a bribe it's not the same
3As9T3I5gZk-00309-00071376-00071561 as uh paying for a service at a
3As9T3I5gZk-00310-00071562-00071699 restaurant
3As9T3I5gZk-00311-00071700-00071915 well these okay I mean you're not
3As9T3I5gZk-00312-00071916-00072076 getting a product necessarily like a
3As9T3I5gZk-00313-00072077-00072256 meal but if you're if you are paying
3As9T3I5gZk-00314-00072257-00072563 someone for a service if they are
3As9T3I5gZk-00315-00072564-00072791 occupying if the FBI only need to be
3As9T3I5gZk-00316-00072792-00072929 very clear here about because you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00317-00072930-00073097 sometimes we talk government very broad
3As9T3I5gZk-00318-00073098-00073294 but we're talking specifically about the
3As9T3I5gZk-00319-00073295-00073511 FBI right now and in some of the Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00320-00073512-00073782 files the FBI was representing other
3As9T3I5gZk-00321-00073783-00073997 organizations within within the
3As9T3I5gZk-00322-00073998-00074206 government's uh other law enforcement
3As9T3I5gZk-00323-00074207-00074338 organizations
3As9T3I5gZk-00324-00074339-00074609 but if the FBI is taking up their time
3As9T3I5gZk-00325-00074610-00074759 just like a lawyer is going to charge
3As9T3I5gZk-00326-00074760-00074963 you for their time and the Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00327-00074964-00075137 expects Twitter would expect to be
3As9T3I5gZk-00328-00075138-00075382 compensated for their time as well and
3As9T3I5gZk-00329-00075383-00075700 so what was not clear and what really
3As9T3I5gZk-00330-00075701-00075976 hasn't been clarified was
3As9T3I5gZk-00331-00075977-00076276 I mean there was no itemization of of
3As9T3I5gZk-00332-00076277-00076505 the of that check or an invoice that was
3As9T3I5gZk-00333-00076506-00076805 sent off to the FBI and so
3As9T3I5gZk-00334-00076806-00077135 if the FBI is paying for example to say
3As9T3I5gZk-00335-00077136-00077344 you know we we have some accounts that
3As9T3I5gZk-00336-00077345-00077519 are that there are some Twitter accounts
3As9T3I5gZk-00337-00077520-00077855 that we feel like might be uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00338-00077856-00078047 might might be problematic maybe they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00339-00078048-00078238 they're they're white nationalists maybe
3As9T3I5gZk-00340-00078239-00078406 they're spreading some hate we want to
3As9T3I5gZk-00341-00078407-00078587 find out who the owners of these
3As9T3I5gZk-00342-00078588-00078779 accounts are so that would be a service
3As9T3I5gZk-00343-00078780-00079006 the FBI might have an interest in where
3As9T3I5gZk-00344-00079007-00079321 they're not necessarily uh you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00345-00079322-00079709 influencing or pressuring Twitter to uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00346-00079710-00079937 label it label Tweets in a certain way
3As9T3I5gZk-00347-00079938-00080176 there are reasons why law enforcement
3As9T3I5gZk-00348-00080177-00080423 would have an interest in some of what's
3As9T3I5gZk-00349-00080424-00080638 going on on in Twitter and having
3As9T3I5gZk-00350-00080639-00080794 information that maybe is on the back
3As9T3I5gZk-00351-00080795-00080938 end I don't know how much of it would
3As9T3I5gZk-00352-00080939-00081329 require a a a subpoena how much it would
3As9T3I5gZk-00353-00081330-00081641 require you know a government or a court
3As9T3I5gZk-00354-00081642-00081917 oversight this is a little beyond my you
3As9T3I5gZk-00355-00081918-00082150 know my scope of knowledge but there are
3As9T3I5gZk-00356-00082151-00082409 reasons other than influencing Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00357-00082410-00082738 to put pressure on you know certain
3As9T3I5gZk-00358-00082739-00082891 posts
3As9T3I5gZk-00359-00082892-00083381 that are actually legitimate
3As9T3I5gZk-00360-00083382-00083567 um do you think then so it sounds like
3As9T3I5gZk-00361-00083568-00083729 if if they saw that there was
3As9T3I5gZk-00362-00083730-00083891 misinformation then they should go to
3As9T3I5gZk-00363-00083892-00084191 Twitter and uh put pressure on them to
3As9T3I5gZk-00364-00084192-00084461 uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00365-00084462-00084682 um to suppress those posts
3As9T3I5gZk-00366-00084683-00084947 misinformation I mean but we don't know
3As9T3I5gZk-00367-00084948-00085049 that that's actually what they were
3As9T3I5gZk-00368-00085050-00085144 doing
3As9T3I5gZk-00369-00085145-00085421 but we don't know that any money was for
3As9T3I5gZk-00370-00085422-00085637 anything dangerous like if they see
3As9T3I5gZk-00371-00085638-00085787 something that's in it that's uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00372-00085788-00086032 dangerous or that they see as a threat
3As9T3I5gZk-00373-00086033-00086200 and you think that then that they should
3As9T3I5gZk-00374-00086201-00086417 go in and say hey we want we want some
3As9T3I5gZk-00375-00086418-00086615 information from you to to investigate
3As9T3I5gZk-00376-00086616-00086926 these people and we also want you to
3As9T3I5gZk-00377-00086927-00087119 suppress oh you don't you're saying you
3As9T3I5gZk-00378-00087120-00087262 don't know if they they I mean it was
3As9T3I5gZk-00379-00087263-00087394 clear in the Twitter files that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00380-00087395-00087569 asked to suppress some of those accounts
3As9T3I5gZk-00381-00087570-00087850 and some of those stories
3As9T3I5gZk-00382-00087851-00088055 their their work there were cases that
3As9T3I5gZk-00383-00088056-00088175 that was happening and there was
3As9T3I5gZk-00384-00088176-00088337 definitely cases where the FBI was
3As9T3I5gZk-00385-00088338-00088487 overstepping its purview you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00386-00088488-00088829 because if they're asking a a a private
3As9T3I5gZk-00387-00088830-00089087 Corporation to go and change their
3As9T3I5gZk-00388-00089088-00089332 policies but but there's also most of
3As9T3I5gZk-00389-00089333-00089656 the time when the FBI was was uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00390-00089657-00089812 suggesting that they that the Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00391-00089813-00090029 look at the accounts all the screenshots
3As9T3I5gZk-00392-00090030-00090179 that I saw
3As9T3I5gZk-00393-00090180-00090438 that what the FBI was contacting Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00394-00090439-00090725 FBI requesting the contact be examined
3As9T3I5gZk-00395-00090726-00090875 because they believe it violates
3As9T3I5gZk-00396-00090876-00091081 Twitter's policies or terms of service
3As9T3I5gZk-00397-00091082-00091349 uh including this information regarding
3As9T3I5gZk-00398-00091350-00091655 voting place and time some screenshots
3As9T3I5gZk-00399-00091656-00091918 of takedown requests were from uh the
3As9T3I5gZk-00400-00091919-00092111 elected officials on Trump's State
3As9T3I5gZk-00401-00092112-00092417 Department so there was a a mixture and
3As9T3I5gZk-00402-00092418-00092705 I don't from what the ones that I saw
3As9T3I5gZk-00403-00092706-00092953 there may be others the ones that I saw
3As9T3I5gZk-00404-00092954-00093365 FBI was not asking Twitter to remove
3As9T3I5gZk-00405-00093366-00093556 posts they were just saying we need you
3As9T3I5gZk-00406-00093557-00093700 to look at these because we feel like it
3As9T3I5gZk-00407-00093701-00093850 violates your your uh some of your
3As9T3I5gZk-00408-00093851-00094018 policies
3As9T3I5gZk-00409-00094019-00094193 uh they were asking them to suppress
3As9T3I5gZk-00410-00094194-00094487 posts and to uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00411-00094488-00094655 into
3As9T3I5gZk-00412-00094656-00095003 um suspend certain certain users
3As9T3I5gZk-00413-00095004-00095182 were they saying this is what we wanted
3As9T3I5gZk-00414-00095183-00095393 done or were they saying we want you to
3As9T3I5gZk-00415-00095394-00095573 look at these users and these posts
3As9T3I5gZk-00416-00095574-00095759 because we believe they violate your
3As9T3I5gZk-00417-00095760-00095915 terms of service in other words were
3As9T3I5gZk-00418-00095916-00096167 they were they um asking for action or
3As9T3I5gZk-00419-00096168-00096406 were they suggesting investigation
3As9T3I5gZk-00420-00096407-00096605 I think a little bit of both I mean
3As9T3I5gZk-00421-00096606-00096755 that's where you get this this you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00422-00096756-00096917 you say well we're just paying for a
3As9T3I5gZk-00423-00096918-00097097 service you know you're going to be a
3As9T3I5gZk-00424-00097098-00097432 little bit more willing to if you have a
3As9T3I5gZk-00425-00097433-00097588 paying customer
3As9T3I5gZk-00426-00097589-00097775 you know to the tune of three and a half
3As9T3I5gZk-00427-00097776-00097918 million dollars you're gonna be a little
3As9T3I5gZk-00428-00097919-00098117 bit more willing to do what they ask you
3As9T3I5gZk-00429-00098118-00098344 to do not to mention that they're also
3As9T3I5gZk-00430-00098345-00098476 carrying a pretty big stick because
3As9T3I5gZk-00431-00098477-00098668 they're the federal government I think
3As9T3I5gZk-00432-00098669-00098903 that's the con like it seems like you're
3As9T3I5gZk-00433-00098904-00099112 glossing over a bit
3As9T3I5gZk-00434-00099113-00099359 the issues of that people are really
3As9T3I5gZk-00435-00099360-00099629 concerned about when you're a cut when
3As9T3I5gZk-00436-00099630-00099767 you have a customer come into the
3As9T3I5gZk-00437-00099768-00099905 restaurant and they're out and they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00438-00099906-00100043 paying you for the meal then you're
3As9T3I5gZk-00439-00100044-00100235 gonna kind of you're gonna really try to
3As9T3I5gZk-00440-00100236-00100391 give them what they want
3As9T3I5gZk-00441-00100392-00100547 because they're a paying customer
3As9T3I5gZk-00442-00100548-00100768 especially if they are buying a huge
3As9T3I5gZk-00443-00100769-00100918 meal like if they're saying hey I've got
3As9T3I5gZk-00444-00100919-00101050 a whole bunch of people or you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00445-00101051-00101243 they're a big Tipper or whatever you're
3As9T3I5gZk-00446-00101244-00101393 going to be pretty inclined to try to
3As9T3I5gZk-00447-00101394-00101512 give them what they want when the
3As9T3I5gZk-00448-00101513-00101650 federal government comes in and not only
3As9T3I5gZk-00449-00101651-00101741 are they paying you three and a half
3As9T3I5gZk-00450-00101742-00101932 million dollars but they also are the
3As9T3I5gZk-00451-00101933-00102149 federal government and there's some
3As9T3I5gZk-00452-00102150-00102382 implied threat there because at the time
3As9T3I5gZk-00453-00102383-00102539 we deal with one anytime we deal with
3As9T3I5gZk-00454-00102540-00102653 the federal government there is an
3As9T3I5gZk-00455-00102654-00102923 implied threat because we know the power
3As9T3I5gZk-00456-00102924-00103090 that they have
3As9T3I5gZk-00457-00103091-00103253 it's like dealing with the police like
3As9T3I5gZk-00458-00103254-00103390 yo he's not I haven't done anything
3As9T3I5gZk-00459-00103391-00103534 wrong like you're still a little bit
3As9T3I5gZk-00460-00103535-00103697 nervous when the police pull up next I
3As9T3I5gZk-00461-00103698-00103816 was just in the parking lot the other
3As9T3I5gZk-00462-00103817-00104254 day I came out of uh Home Depot and uh I
3As9T3I5gZk-00463-00104255-00104410 had had to pay for something and show
3As9T3I5gZk-00464-00104411-00104536 them my receipt and I get out of the
3As9T3I5gZk-00465-00104538-00104771 parking lot and I'm in my truck and I
3As9T3I5gZk-00466-00104772-00105010 jump down and there's a policeman
3As9T3I5gZk-00467-00105011-00105239 standing I we were I was right between
3As9T3I5gZk-00468-00105240-00105401 our two vehicles I didn't realize it was
3As9T3I5gZk-00469-00105402-00105502 a police car but there's a policeman
3As9T3I5gZk-00470-00105503-00105623 standing there looking right at me with
3As9T3I5gZk-00471-00105624-00105797 his hand on his gun
3As9T3I5gZk-00472-00105798-00106031 and I'm like oh you kind of surprised me
3As9T3I5gZk-00473-00106032-00106271 there you know not because I was guilty
3As9T3I5gZk-00474-00106272-00106469 I had done nothing wrong sure don't tell
3As9T3I5gZk-00475-00106470-00106613 me there's not some sort of an implied
3As9T3I5gZk-00476-00106614-00106763 threat there when there's a guy with a
3As9T3I5gZk-00477-00106764-00106943 gun on his hip and the gun and his hand
3As9T3I5gZk-00478-00106944-00107158 is on the gun and the FBI when they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00479-00107159-00107315 coming and dealing with it yeah that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00480-00107316-00107477 different than dealing with some uh a
3As9T3I5gZk-00481-00107478-00107621 company that's paying you three and a
3As9T3I5gZk-00482-00107622-00107734 half million dollars it's the federal
3As9T3I5gZk-00483-00107735-00107939 government so you try to give them what
3As9T3I5gZk-00484-00107940-00108149 they want and if they say you know you
3As9T3I5gZk-00485-00108150-00108269 should look into this because this is
3As9T3I5gZk-00486-00108270-00108431 misinformation that's different than
3As9T3I5gZk-00487-00108432-00108658 some somebody off the street saying hey
3As9T3I5gZk-00488-00108659-00108815 uh you should look into this guy the
3As9T3I5gZk-00489-00108816-00108971 federal government carries a much bigger
3As9T3I5gZk-00490-00108972-00109121 stick so to act like there's not some
3As9T3I5gZk-00491-00109122-00109313 implied threat there is a little bit
3As9T3I5gZk-00492-00109314-00109547 crazy to me well maybe your reaction to
3As9T3I5gZk-00493-00109548-00109758 the cop had to do with your history
3As9T3I5gZk-00494-00109759-00110045 that was probably part of it I don't
3As9T3I5gZk-00495-00110046-00110225 think anybody you know I don't think any
3As9T3I5gZk-00496-00110226-00110471 like you talk with anybody who's driving
3As9T3I5gZk-00497-00110472-00110651 and then they see the cars the lights go
3As9T3I5gZk-00498-00110652-00110890 on behind them like that's just the way
3As9T3I5gZk-00499-00110891-00111023 people are there everybody's nervous
3As9T3I5gZk-00500-00111024-00111239 about that and you see a cop up in front
3As9T3I5gZk-00501-00111240-00111395 you know you're driving down the road
3As9T3I5gZk-00502-00111396-00111599 without even looking at your speedometer
3As9T3I5gZk-00503-00111600-00111790 we all slow down a little bit yeah
3As9T3I5gZk-00504-00111791-00111952 development and if you're pulling out
3As9T3I5gZk-00505-00111953-00112139 you see a cop like the other day I was
3As9T3I5gZk-00506-00112140-00112247 pulling out of this parking lot there
3As9T3I5gZk-00507-00112248-00112457 was a cop waiting at the light there I'm
3As9T3I5gZk-00508-00112458-00112607 like should I just turn right and let
3As9T3I5gZk-00509-00112608-00112865 this guy go like I'm probably fine like
3As9T3I5gZk-00510-00112866-00113057 he could see something like there's
3As9T3I5gZk-00511-00113058-00113236 there's a little bit of concern that
3As9T3I5gZk-00512-00113238-00113404 comes in there so to act like there's
3As9T3I5gZk-00513-00113405-00113578 not and I'm not saying implied threat
3As9T3I5gZk-00514-00113579-00113752 like they're using it to say hey you
3As9T3I5gZk-00515-00113753-00113908 need to do what we want necessarily but
3As9T3I5gZk-00516-00113909-00114047 there is an implied threat there it's
3As9T3I5gZk-00517-00114048-00114215 different than dealing with McDonald's
3As9T3I5gZk-00518-00114216-00114508 Corporation or somebody else I mean
3As9T3I5gZk-00519-00114509-00114689 you're you're right but the problem here
3As9T3I5gZk-00520-00114690-00114910 is what what you're saying and what a
3As9T3I5gZk-00521-00114911-00115084 lot of people Fox News and other people
3As9T3I5gZk-00522-00115085-00115252 are saying is we don't have evidence of
3As9T3I5gZk-00523-00115253-00115577 wrongdoing but hey they're the FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00524-00115578-00115775 there's probably wrongdoing you know I
3As9T3I5gZk-00525-00115776-00115913 mean and that's not really fair to go
3As9T3I5gZk-00526-00115914-00116069 and accuse people of a crime when just
3As9T3I5gZk-00527-00116070-00116219 saying because of the relationship there
3As9T3I5gZk-00528-00116220-00116375 must be a crime
3As9T3I5gZk-00529-00116376-00116584 well I think that in the Twitter files
3As9T3I5gZk-00530-00116585-00116783 they gave specific examples of look
3As9T3I5gZk-00531-00116783-00117028 here's some uh stories that they asked
3As9T3I5gZk-00532-00117029-00117215 to suppress and they turned out to be
3As9T3I5gZk-00533-00117216-00117454 true later
3As9T3I5gZk-00534-00117455-00117628 you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00535-00117629-00117821 I think
3As9T3I5gZk-00536-00117822-00118025 address those particular stories like if
3As9T3I5gZk-00537-00118026-00118163 they're making clear it's not just the
3As9T3I5gZk-00538-00118164-00118265 people are saying hey there was money
3As9T3I5gZk-00539-00118266-00118486 paid and that's it and hey they're the
3As9T3I5gZk-00540-00118488-00118601 federal government so that's enough
3As9T3I5gZk-00541-00118602-00118889 they're presenting particular instances
3As9T3I5gZk-00542-00118890-00119069 where they asked to suppress certain
3As9T3I5gZk-00543-00119070-00119386 stories and it was incorrect to do so I
3As9T3I5gZk-00544-00119388-00119531 mean that's what the Twitter files are
3As9T3I5gZk-00545-00119532-00119747 all about so if you want to say well the
3As9T3I5gZk-00546-00119748-00119849 Twitter files don't have anything I
3As9T3I5gZk-00547-00119850-00119963 think you have to go to the claims that
3As9T3I5gZk-00548-00119964-00120347 they're making and then uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00549-00120348-00120545 um and and then address those claims and
3As9T3I5gZk-00550-00120546-00120707 say well there's no this is baseless or
3As9T3I5gZk-00551-00120708-00120971 something else uh I mean we started out
3As9T3I5gZk-00552-00120972-00121228 with hey you were kind of trying to it
3As9T3I5gZk-00553-00121229-00121402 felt to me as if you were trying to say
3As9T3I5gZk-00554-00121403-00121540 well listen it doesn't matter that
3As9T3I5gZk-00555-00121541-00121769 they're the federal government that and
3As9T3I5gZk-00556-00121770-00121901 I was trying to say well there's an
3As9T3I5gZk-00557-00121902-00122039 implied threat there there's something
3As9T3I5gZk-00558-00122040-00122231 there and then you were trying to say
3As9T3I5gZk-00559-00122232-00122434 well it doesn't matter they pay them 303
3As9T3I5gZk-00560-00122435-00122669 3.5 million dollars because they're just
3As9T3I5gZk-00561-00122670-00122908 paying for a service yeah but when the
3As9T3I5gZk-00562-00122909-00123052 government's asking you to suppress
3As9T3I5gZk-00563-00123053-00123269 stuff I mean their whole point was to
3As9T3I5gZk-00564-00123270-00123497 track down Twitter users that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00565-00123498-00123683 thought were risky and to suppress
3As9T3I5gZk-00566-00123683-00124115 stories well uh I think that you know if
3As9T3I5gZk-00567-00124116-00124228 you're paying three and a half million
3As9T3I5gZk-00568-00124229-00124415 dollars like the federal government will
3As9T3I5gZk-00569-00124416-00124631 be involved in that just seems odd to
3As9T3I5gZk-00570-00124632-00124871 people because I think a lot of people
3As9T3I5gZk-00571-00124872-00125057 feel that this should be an open Town
3As9T3I5gZk-00572-00125058-00125363 Square where yeah if you if you find
3As9T3I5gZk-00573-00125364-00125525 that somebody is threatening people's
3As9T3I5gZk-00574-00125526-00125758 livelihood or doxing people giving away
3As9T3I5gZk-00575-00125759-00125957 their uh personal information or their
3As9T3I5gZk-00576-00125958-00126166 addresses that's concerning but if
3As9T3I5gZk-00577-00126167-00126334 people make a statement that even if
3As9T3I5gZk-00578-00126335-00126563 it's wrong let's say it's untrue
3As9T3I5gZk-00579-00126564-00126754 they have every right to say that that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00580-00126755-00127013 freedom of speech now I get there's a
3As9T3I5gZk-00581-00127014-00127223 distinction between you know everything
3As9T3I5gZk-00582-00127224-00127402 on Twitter is not necessarily freedom of
3As9T3I5gZk-00583-00127403-00127583 speech but it's an open Town Square
3As9T3I5gZk-00584-00127583-00127727 that's what they purport to be that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00585-00127728-00127901 what they've always purported to be and
3As9T3I5gZk-00586-00127902-00128008 then to see that the federal government
3As9T3I5gZk-00587-00128009-00128284 was going in and very surreptitiously
3As9T3I5gZk-00588-00128285-00128471 paying three and a half million dollars
3As9T3I5gZk-00589-00128472-00128645 and then asking for certain things to be
3As9T3I5gZk-00590-00128646-00128789 suppressed that is concerning to people
3As9T3I5gZk-00591-00128790-00129047 and I understand why it is yeah it is
3As9T3I5gZk-00592-00129048-00129221 but I also think that people are are
3As9T3I5gZk-00593-00129222-00129436 connecting you know that's correlation
3As9T3I5gZk-00594-00129438-00129640 is not causation to go go to that old
3As9T3I5gZk-00595-00129641-00129886 cliche yes there there is the
3As9T3I5gZk-00596-00129888-00130090 possibility but I don't think it's it's
3As9T3I5gZk-00597-00130091-00130402 really fair to to accuse of anybody of a
3As9T3I5gZk-00598-00130403-00130540 crime until you actually have evidence
3As9T3I5gZk-00599-00130541-00130763 of a crime and correlation is not is not
3As9T3I5gZk-00600-00130764-00130990 a crime but there were there were
3As9T3I5gZk-00601-00130991-00131207 situations where you had politicians
3As9T3I5gZk-00602-00131208-00131621 there was uh Angus King from Maine
3As9T3I5gZk-00603-00131622-00131993 um uh Democrat either uh Schiff or uh or
3As9T3I5gZk-00604-00131994-00132214 Schumer one of the Democrats was giving
3As9T3I5gZk-00605-00132215-00132407 a list of Twitter accounts to Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00606-00132408-00132604 that they wanted they wanted the users
3As9T3I5gZk-00607-00132605-00132809 suspended and it turned out that the
3As9T3I5gZk-00608-00132810-00132952 user they were they were accusing them
3As9T3I5gZk-00609-00132953-00133157 of being Russian Bots and other things
3As9T3I5gZk-00610-00133158-00133349 or or using violent language and it
3As9T3I5gZk-00611-00133350-00133589 turned out they were just supporters of
3As9T3I5gZk-00612-00133590-00133883 their opponents so there totally was
3As9T3I5gZk-00613-00133884-00134147 some inappropriate activities going on
3As9T3I5gZk-00614-00134148-00134327 now there also wasn't clear if Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00615-00134328-00134543 actually followed through and suspended
3As9T3I5gZk-00616-00134544-00134740 those accounts but there were some some
3As9T3I5gZk-00617-00134741-00134951 politicians that were pushing for some
3As9T3I5gZk-00618-00134952-00135269 inappropriate activity there was also a
3As9T3I5gZk-00619-00135270-00135731 screenshot of the uh um the embattled
3As9T3I5gZk-00620-00135732-00135928 um head of the ethics Department Yale
3As9T3I5gZk-00621-00135929-00136163 Yale um whatever his name is I can't
3As9T3I5gZk-00622-00136164-00136409 remember his name right now but y'all
3As9T3I5gZk-00623-00136410-00136757 something yep that's the one of him uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00624-00136758-00136907 it was an email that he sent to somebody
3As9T3I5gZk-00625-00136908-00137135 says Hey I just received a message from
3As9T3I5gZk-00626-00137136-00137404 I think it was the FBI or whatever it
3As9T3I5gZk-00627-00137405-00137554 really feels like that what they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00628-00137555-00137789 asking us to do is is going well beyond
3As9T3I5gZk-00629-00137790-00137939 what you know what we should be doing
3As9T3I5gZk-00630-00137940-00138119 let's go and look into this to see if
3As9T3I5gZk-00631-00138120-00138316 you know so there was some pushback from
3As9T3I5gZk-00632-00138317-00138419 Twitter
3As9T3I5gZk-00633-00138420-00138545 um just the fact that they were getting
3As9T3I5gZk-00634-00138546-00138785 some of the money was not sufficient for
3As9T3I5gZk-00635-00138786-00139078 them to go and you know be at the at the
3As9T3I5gZk-00636-00139079-00139354 beck and call of the FBI or in any of
3As9T3I5gZk-00637-00139355-00139499 the other law enforcement agencies that
3As9T3I5gZk-00638-00139500-00139811 the FBI was representing
3As9T3I5gZk-00639-00139812-00139975 um so
3As9T3I5gZk-00640-00139976-00140171 there was
3As9T3I5gZk-00641-00140172-00140345 you know there was evidence that things
3As9T3I5gZk-00642-00140346-00140543 were inappropriate there's a lot of
3As9T3I5gZk-00643-00140544-00140771 speculation that things were you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00644-00140772-00141023 really bad without a whole lot of
3As9T3I5gZk-00645-00141024-00141185 evidence of things were really bad but
3As9T3I5gZk-00646-00141186-00141401 definitely things were inappropriate but
3As9T3I5gZk-00647-00141402-00141623 Brian I think I think the distinction
3As9T3I5gZk-00648-00141624-00141809 that we're that you're making here is
3As9T3I5gZk-00649-00141810-00142054 some people are saying it's in it's
3As9T3I5gZk-00650-00142055-00142228 really bad that they were involved at
3As9T3I5gZk-00651-00142229-00142547 all it's really bad that whatever the
3As9T3I5gZk-00652-00142548-00142745 reason was I mean you know let's say it
3As9T3I5gZk-00653-00142746-00142913 wasn't completely malicious that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00654-00142914-00143063 you know the three and a half million
3As9T3I5gZk-00655-00143064-00143249 dollars that they spent there
3As9T3I5gZk-00656-00143250-00143387 um I don't think it was very I don't
3As9T3I5gZk-00657-00143388-00143501 think it was completely malicious but
3As9T3I5gZk-00658-00143502-00143669 let's say it wasn't completely malicious
3As9T3I5gZk-00659-00143670-00143861 it's still wrong they shouldn't be doing
3As9T3I5gZk-00660-00143862-00144089 it so you're kind of saying well they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00661-00144090-00144214 you know they don't have good evidence
3As9T3I5gZk-00662-00144215-00144419 that something really bad happened and I
3As9T3I5gZk-00663-00144420-00144581 think you're talking past the people on
3As9T3I5gZk-00664-00144582-00144778 the other side that are saying the fact
3As9T3I5gZk-00665-00144779-00145037 that they were even involved that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00666-00145038-00145247 paid that they took so much of Twitter's
3As9T3I5gZk-00667-00145248-00145439 time that they paid three and a half
3As9T3I5gZk-00668-00145440-00145678 million dollars is really bad
3As9T3I5gZk-00669-00145679-00145883 so maybe we could you know make the just
3As9T3I5gZk-00670-00145884-00146063 or maybe we can just agree to disagree
3As9T3I5gZk-00671-00146064-00146321 there I don't know but to me as I said
3As9T3I5gZk-00672-00146322-00146428 before and I don't think we've really
3As9T3I5gZk-00673-00146429-00146549 addressed this this should be an open
3As9T3I5gZk-00674-00146550-00146699 Town Square where people can say what
3As9T3I5gZk-00675-00146700-00146849 they want and the government I mean
3As9T3I5gZk-00676-00146850-00147011 let's let's give a different example
3As9T3I5gZk-00677-00147012-00147227 would you be okay with the federal
3As9T3I5gZk-00678-00147228-00147347 government paying three and a half
3As9T3I5gZk-00679-00147348-00147502 million dollars to the Wall Street
3As9T3I5gZk-00680-00147503-00147683 Journal or the Washington Post or the
3As9T3I5gZk-00681-00147684-00147911 New York Times because they want to you
3As9T3I5gZk-00682-00147912-00147977 know
3As9T3I5gZk-00683-00147978-00148169 uh control information that's coming out
3As9T3I5gZk-00684-00148170-00148373 of there or is it just because it's not
3As9T3I5gZk-00685-00148374-00148528 journalists
3As9T3I5gZk-00686-00148529-00148877 so the the distinction though is is what
3As9T3I5gZk-00687-00148878-00149021 you said give three and a half million
3As9T3I5gZk-00688-00149022-00149285 dollars to control information and
3As9T3I5gZk-00689-00149286-00149399 that's really what the problem is
3As9T3I5gZk-00690-00149400-00149621 because we don't know what the FBI was
3As9T3I5gZk-00691-00149622-00149861 doing there was when all of this came
3As9T3I5gZk-00692-00149862-00150004 out one of the things that happened was
3As9T3I5gZk-00693-00150005-00150173 that people were asking the some of the
3As9T3I5gZk-00694-00150174-00150425 FBI spokespeople are do you have similar
3As9T3I5gZk-00695-00150426-00150563 relationships with the other social
3As9T3I5gZk-00696-00150564-00150778 media companies with Facebook with with
3As9T3I5gZk-00697-00150779-00151019 Instagram is Facebook but uh you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00698-00151020-00151204 some of the uh some I can't remember the
3As9T3I5gZk-00699-00151205-00151427 other ones and the FBI refused to answer
3As9T3I5gZk-00700-00151428-00151607 they said you know this this is you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00701-00151608-00151835 internal uh Communications this is not
3As9T3I5gZk-00702-00151836-00151990 something that we know we can go and put
3As9T3I5gZk-00703-00151991-00152261 out there but the implication was that
3As9T3I5gZk-00704-00152262-00152464 they are involved with a lot of social
3As9T3I5gZk-00705-00152465-00152639 media companies because it's not just
3As9T3I5gZk-00706-00152640-00152909 about the content it's it's about things
3As9T3I5gZk-00707-00152910-00153107 you know like you know patterns of
3As9T3I5gZk-00708-00153108-00153340 communication let's say that you know a
3As9T3I5gZk-00709-00153341-00153664 Facebook user is is uh is is you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00710-00153665-00153887 involved or watching a lot of uh white
3As9T3I5gZk-00711-00153888-00154121 supremacist videos and then goes and
3As9T3I5gZk-00712-00154122-00154343 starts watching a lot of some um videos
3As9T3I5gZk-00713-00154344-00154625 on local schools that would be a really
3As9T3I5gZk-00714-00154626-00154871 important uh relationship for someone to
3As9T3I5gZk-00715-00154872-00155069 to be able to make the connection to the
3As9T3I5gZk-00716-00155070-00155290 FBI might have an interest in knowing
3As9T3I5gZk-00717-00155291-00155514 some of those patterns does does does
3As9T3I5gZk-00718-00155515-00155789 are someone getting access to content
3As9T3I5gZk-00719-00155790-00156185 that is you know of a violent nature and
3As9T3I5gZk-00720-00156186-00156311 then something that might sort of like
3As9T3I5gZk-00721-00156312-00156478 look like research where one might want
3As9T3I5gZk-00722-00156479-00156725 to go and commit a violent crime and so
3As9T3I5gZk-00723-00156726-00156887 the FBI would have an interest to that
3As9T3I5gZk-00724-00156888-00157085 and the regular media companies would
3As9T3I5gZk-00725-00157086-00157235 not have access to that kind of
3As9T3I5gZk-00726-00157236-00157421 information but the social media
3As9T3I5gZk-00727-00157422-00157535 companies would
3As9T3I5gZk-00728-00157536-00157697 so Brian would you be okay with the
3As9T3I5gZk-00729-00157698-00157919 federal government without a warrant
3As9T3I5gZk-00730-00157920-00158273 looking at uh your credit card going to
3As9T3I5gZk-00731-00158274-00158393 the credit card companies and saying
3As9T3I5gZk-00732-00158394-00158566 well what is Brian buying I want to see
3As9T3I5gZk-00733-00158567-00158728 what what where he's spending his money
3As9T3I5gZk-00734-00158729-00158987 what is he uh I want to get some
3As9T3I5gZk-00735-00158988-00159149 information about what he's watching on
3As9T3I5gZk-00736-00159150-00159287 TV
3As9T3I5gZk-00737-00159288-00159521 I mean it's just it that's a that's a
3As9T3I5gZk-00738-00159522-00159719 better comparison I think they're going
3As9T3I5gZk-00739-00159720-00159911 without a warrant to just pull up
3As9T3I5gZk-00740-00159912-00160114 information that that people if they
3As9T3I5gZk-00741-00160115-00160247 wanted to search it themselves I guess
3As9T3I5gZk-00742-00160248-00160475 they could but to go to companies uh and
3As9T3I5gZk-00743-00160476-00160619 start pulling this information there's
3As9T3I5gZk-00744-00160620-00160990 at least uh some correlation there where
3As9T3I5gZk-00745-00160991-00161171 it makes people nervous to say hey this
3As9T3I5gZk-00746-00161172-00161345 is an invasion of privacy and when you
3As9T3I5gZk-00747-00161346-00161489 said before that they weren't trying to
3As9T3I5gZk-00748-00161490-00161759 control information they absolutely are
3As9T3I5gZk-00749-00161760-00161981 I mean here's an example they're saying
3As9T3I5gZk-00750-00161982-00162239 hey the FBI San Francisco is notifying
3As9T3I5gZk-00751-00162240-00162383 you of the below account activities
3As9T3I5gZk-00752-00162384-00162581 which may potentially you know it's you
3As9T3I5gZk-00753-00162582-00162701 always say well maybe they were just
3As9T3I5gZk-00754-00162702-00163013 saying it was uh it's almost as if the
3As9T3I5gZk-00755-00163014-00163187 verbiage of whatever was on the three
3As9T3I5gZk-00756-00163188-00163385 and a half million dollar invoice or
3As9T3I5gZk-00757-00163386-00163571 whatever the verbiage was of the request
3As9T3I5gZk-00758-00163572-00163840 like that would exonerate the the FBI if
3As9T3I5gZk-00759-00163841-00164116 they say well it's a maybe this this uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00760-00164117-00164273 constitutes a violation of your terms of
3As9T3I5gZk-00761-00164274-00164381 service
3As9T3I5gZk-00762-00164382-00164663 that isn't enough for me because they
3As9T3I5gZk-00763-00164664-00164854 once again there's an implied threat
3As9T3I5gZk-00764-00164855-00164975 there they're carrying a big stick
3As9T3I5gZk-00765-00164976-00165197 they're paying a ton of money to you and
3As9T3I5gZk-00766-00165198-00165437 when they are trying to look at certain
3As9T3I5gZk-00767-00165438-00165664 accounts and suppress them and say look
3As9T3I5gZk-00768-00165665-00165826 at these people they're this is a
3As9T3I5gZk-00769-00165827-00166025 violation of terms of service and then
3As9T3I5gZk-00770-00166026-00166193 later if let's say Twitter does nothing
3As9T3I5gZk-00771-00166194-00166390 and then something happens and the FBI
3As9T3I5gZk-00772-00166391-00166576 says we told them to suppress these we
3As9T3I5gZk-00773-00166577-00166697 told them to look at these people and
3As9T3I5gZk-00774-00166698-00166823 they didn't you know I think there's a
3As9T3I5gZk-00775-00166824-00166966 there's a there's definitely an implied
3As9T3I5gZk-00776-00166967-00167171 threat there and some of this stuff is
3As9T3I5gZk-00777-00167172-00167309 you know that the FBI was getting
3As9T3I5gZk-00778-00167310-00167543 involved with they're just jokes one of
3As9T3I5gZk-00779-00167544-00167747 the one of them you know that email I
3As9T3I5gZk-00780-00167748-00167885 was just reading to you about hey these
3As9T3I5gZk-00781-00167886-00168004 May violate the Twitter's terms of
3As9T3I5gZk-00782-00168005-00168293 service this Twitter user posted uh with
3As9T3I5gZk-00783-00168294-00168557 a display named Ultra Maga stated the
3As9T3I5gZk-00784-00168558-00168899 following Americans vote today Democrats
3As9T3I5gZk-00785-00168900-00169121 you vote Wednesday the 9th which was
3As9T3I5gZk-00786-00169122-00169354 after the election right and it was a
3As9T3I5gZk-00787-00169355-00169723 guy obviously making a joke
3As9T3I5gZk-00788-00169724-00170002 why is it obvious because he says
3As9T3I5gZk-00789-00170003-00170219 Americans vote today but Democrats vote
3As9T3I5gZk-00790-00170220-00170471 tomorrow
3As9T3I5gZk-00791-00170472-00170651 so so do they is somebody reading that
3As9T3I5gZk-00792-00170652-00170795 gonna be like oh I guess everybody votes
3As9T3I5gZk-00793-00170796-00170926 today except for Democrats we have to
3As9T3I5gZk-00794-00170927-00171095 vote tomorrow I that would that would
3As9T3I5gZk-00795-00171096-00171293 that doesn't seem like a joke to you
3As9T3I5gZk-00796-00171294-00171571 I
3As9T3I5gZk-00797-00171572-00171904 to me it's I mean you you take you take
3As9T3I5gZk-00798-00171905-00172145 the the the name of the you know of the
3As9T3I5gZk-00799-00172146-00172373 account you take the languaging on it
3As9T3I5gZk-00800-00172374-00172643 yes I would I would totally I would not
3As9T3I5gZk-00801-00172644-00172835 I wouldn't consider it a joke I would
3As9T3I5gZk-00802-00172836-00173014 consider it you know in bad taste but I
3As9T3I5gZk-00803-00173015-00173159 wouldn't I wouldn't take it as something
3As9T3I5gZk-00804-00173160-00173428 real but let's you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00805-00173429-00173801 if for example our mother had seen that
3As9T3I5gZk-00806-00173802-00173981 do you think she would look at it and go
3As9T3I5gZk-00807-00173982-00174137 oh obviously this doesn't make a lot of
3As9T3I5gZk-00808-00174138-00174275 sense I wouldn't I wouldn't that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00809-00174276-00174461 that's not true or do you think she
3As9T3I5gZk-00810-00174462-00174659 might get swayed like well maybe there
3As9T3I5gZk-00811-00174660-00174826 are two different voting days for for
3As9T3I5gZk-00812-00174827-00174952 different people you know the
3As9T3I5gZk-00813-00174953-00175187 Republicans and the Democrats now of
3As9T3I5gZk-00814-00175188-00175499 course I said Americans but there are
3As9T3I5gZk-00815-00175500-00175804 some people that will skip over some of
3As9T3I5gZk-00816-00175805-00176087 the content and that was why I mean is
3As9T3I5gZk-00817-00176088-00176428 it obvious a joke no probably but not to
3As9T3I5gZk-00818-00176429-00176657 everybody and if it gets people if it
3As9T3I5gZk-00819-00176658-00176795 makes you a vote on the wrong day that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00820-00176796-00176933 pretty serious
3As9T3I5gZk-00821-00176934-00177185 or trying to vote on the wrong day
3As9T3I5gZk-00822-00177186-00177364 maybe they shouldn't be voting if they
3As9T3I5gZk-00823-00177365-00177514 can't realize that everybody votes on
3As9T3I5gZk-00824-00177515-00177628 the same day
3As9T3I5gZk-00825-00177629-00177911 uh but I don't know Brian I I I guess
3As9T3I5gZk-00826-00177912-00178109 this is this is the concern that people
3As9T3I5gZk-00827-00178110-00178240 have is that the federal government
3As9T3I5gZk-00828-00178241-00178378 would be going in and saying well that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00829-00178379-00178552 not enough as a joke that's too much of
3As9T3I5gZk-00830-00178553-00178799 a joke that's the concern and if you
3As9T3I5gZk-00831-00178800-00178973 don't think that's a concern then I
3As9T3I5gZk-00832-00178974-00179116 you're just that's what you're
3As9T3I5gZk-00833-00179117-00179399 disagreeing with so you can talk past it
3As9T3I5gZk-00834-00179400-00179554 and say well they have you know this
3As9T3I5gZk-00835-00179555-00179728 isn't really serious stuff well they
3As9T3I5gZk-00836-00179729-00180004 think it is and here's why they do
3As9T3I5gZk-00837-00180005-00180173 um because they're worried about the
3As9T3I5gZk-00838-00180174-00180299 fact that the federal government is
3As9T3I5gZk-00839-00180300-00180599 going in and and and uh and then the
3As9T3I5gZk-00840-00180600-00180761 concern becomes well are they looking
3As9T3I5gZk-00841-00180762-00180976 just at one side of the aisle are they
3As9T3I5gZk-00842-00180977-00181301 if a Democrat made a joke uh would they
3As9T3I5gZk-00843-00181302-00181499 look at it differently or if they were
3As9T3I5gZk-00844-00181500-00181907 Republican FBI uh operative and and they
3As9T3I5gZk-00845-00181908-00182104 would they look at you know be harder on
3As9T3I5gZk-00846-00182105-00182278 the Democratic side like they should
3As9T3I5gZk-00847-00182279-00182483 just stay out of this stuff they should
3As9T3I5gZk-00848-00182484-00182669 not worry too much about jokes people
3As9T3I5gZk-00849-00182670-00182873 sometimes get misinformation if you get
3As9T3I5gZk-00850-00182874-00183035 missing if if that's the type of joke
3As9T3I5gZk-00851-00183036-00183304 that you can't understand or you can't
3As9T3I5gZk-00852-00183305-00183514 see that that doesn't make any sense I'm
3As9T3I5gZk-00853-00183515-00183688 sorry you can look it up I don't know
3As9T3I5gZk-00854-00183689-00183904 some Ultra Maga user tells you the
3As9T3I5gZk-00855-00183905-00184043 Democrats vote tomorrow and you're not
3As9T3I5gZk-00856-00184044-00184145 going to go look at the date yourself
3As9T3I5gZk-00857-00184146-00184349 that just seems like a bit of a stretch
3As9T3I5gZk-00858-00184350-00184445 that the federal government should be
3As9T3I5gZk-00859-00184446-00184690 paying to figure out how to suppress
3As9T3I5gZk-00860-00184691-00184871 that type of stuff just get out of there
3As9T3I5gZk-00861-00184872-00185038 yeah
3As9T3I5gZk-00862-00185039-00185321 um you know I mean perhaps and I I think
3As9T3I5gZk-00863-00185322-00185531 there was it was definitely questionable
3As9T3I5gZk-00864-00185532-00185681 um we don't have a whole lot of time
3As9T3I5gZk-00865-00185682-00185831 left but there was one of the things
3As9T3I5gZk-00866-00185832-00185945 that bothered me about this whole
3As9T3I5gZk-00867-00185946-00186323 Twitter files was was uh um Matt taibi
3As9T3I5gZk-00868-00186324-00186485 in particular
3As9T3I5gZk-00869-00186486-00186640 um had
3As9T3I5gZk-00870-00186641-00186978 is he doesn't have uh the the the
3As9T3I5gZk-00871-00186979-00187438 strongest uh I guess neutrality uh he's
3As9T3I5gZk-00872-00187439-00187601 not the most neutral writer in some of
3As9T3I5gZk-00873-00187602-00187702 the stuff that he was that he was
3As9T3I5gZk-00874-00187703-00187864 putting out there
3As9T3I5gZk-00875-00187865-00187931 um
3As9T3I5gZk-00876-00187932-00188128 and and my and of course we talked
3As9T3I5gZk-00877-00188129-00188333 before about how the way the content was
3As9T3I5gZk-00878-00188334-00188602 was was gathered uh there wasn't the
3As9T3I5gZk-00879-00188603-00188740 ability to go and filter you brought up
3As9T3I5gZk-00880-00188741-00189076 a great point just a moment ago how were
3As9T3I5gZk-00881-00189077-00189328 the Democrats being as as filtered as
3As9T3I5gZk-00882-00189329-00189502 the Republicans were and unfortunately
3As9T3I5gZk-00883-00189503-00189599 because of the way they were getting the
3As9T3I5gZk-00884-00189600-00189766 information it was really hard to go and
3As9T3I5gZk-00885-00189767-00190097 and to get broader information if you're
3As9T3I5gZk-00886-00190098-00190271 looking at something you know like any
3As9T3I5gZk-00887-00190272-00190481 any tweet that has Maga in it you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00888-00190482-00190661 that but but you know how do you make
3As9T3I5gZk-00889-00190662-00190888 the same categorization for on the
3As9T3I5gZk-00890-00190889-00191140 Democrat side so the information is
3As9T3I5gZk-00891-00191141-00191278 going to be
3As9T3I5gZk-00892-00191279-00191519 um based on the filters that you set out
3As9T3I5gZk-00893-00191520-00191752 there uh there was
3As9T3I5gZk-00894-00191753-00192011 uh well before I go on to the we did we
3As9T3I5gZk-00895-00192012-00192166 get about five minutes left um is there
3As9T3I5gZk-00896-00192167-00192316 anything else that you wanted to to
3As9T3I5gZk-00897-00192317-00192616 comment on that so before I move on yeah
3As9T3I5gZk-00898-00192617-00192869 I guess even if you had full access to
3As9T3I5gZk-00899-00192870-00193049 the information well let's say both you
3As9T3I5gZk-00900-00193050-00193301 and I had independent of each other full
3As9T3I5gZk-00901-00193302-00193535 access to the information we would have
3As9T3I5gZk-00902-00193536-00193811 a different opinion on uh the percentage
3As9T3I5gZk-00903-00193812-00194009 of right-leaning accounts that were
3As9T3I5gZk-00904-00194010-00194135 suppressed as opposed to the left
3As9T3I5gZk-00905-00194136-00194345 leaning and because we would have
3As9T3I5gZk-00906-00194346-00194633 different opinions on what really
3As9T3I5gZk-00907-00194634-00194938 deserved to be uh a violation what
3As9T3I5gZk-00908-00194939-00195131 didn't I mean we've talked about this
3As9T3I5gZk-00909-00195132-00195340 before that's why they should just stay
3As9T3I5gZk-00910-00195341-00195683 out of this because you come to these uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00911-00195684-00195928 you come to these decisions about
3As9T3I5gZk-00912-00195929-00196157 whether to suppress something or what is
3As9T3I5gZk-00913-00196158-00196373 misinformation with all of your
3As9T3I5gZk-00914-00196374-00196583 preconceived ideas about what is true
3As9T3I5gZk-00915-00196584-00196714 and what isn't
3As9T3I5gZk-00916-00196715-00197051 it becomes just about impossible for I
3As9T3I5gZk-00917-00197052-00197195 mean do you disagree that if we looked
3As9T3I5gZk-00918-00197196-00197314 at it we would have different opinions
3As9T3I5gZk-00919-00197315-00197464 about
3As9T3I5gZk-00920-00197465-00197704 um whether the FBI had suppressed more
3As9T3I5gZk-00921-00197705-00197843 left-leaning or more right-leaning
3As9T3I5gZk-00922-00197844-00198004 accounts wouldn't we if we had the same
3As9T3I5gZk-00923-00198005-00198137 access to the same information wouldn't
3As9T3I5gZk-00924-00198138-00198304 we disagree on that
3As9T3I5gZk-00925-00198305-00198490 I think it'd be really difficult to be
3As9T3I5gZk-00926-00198491-00198640 able to I mean it would take a lot of
3As9T3I5gZk-00927-00198641-00198802 time I guess you could probably go
3As9T3I5gZk-00928-00198803-00198959 through and you know filter through and
3As9T3I5gZk-00929-00198960-00199078 all the different accounts that they had
3As9T3I5gZk-00930-00199079-00199259 suggested to Twitter and then you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00931-00199260-00199390 go on and look at all the accounts and
3As9T3I5gZk-00932-00199391-00199588 determine so the accounts that are far
3As9T3I5gZk-00933-00199589-00199745 right and far left they are very obvious
3As9T3I5gZk-00934-00199746-00199895 which way they lean but as you get more
3As9T3I5gZk-00935-00199896-00200063 towards the middle it becomes a little
3As9T3I5gZk-00936-00200064-00200195 more challenging like most of the stuff
3As9T3I5gZk-00937-00200196-00200369 they'll be discussed
3As9T3I5gZk-00938-00200370-00200549 um sure Brian but given unlimited time
3As9T3I5gZk-00939-00200550-00200740 we would disagree
3As9T3I5gZk-00940-00200741-00200945 that's the whole point you give an
3As9T3I5gZk-00941-00200946-00201137 unlimited time we would disagree if we
3As9T3I5gZk-00942-00201138-00201269 went through and looked at all of it and
3As9T3I5gZk-00943-00201270-00201593 tried to you know uh tallied up somehow
3As9T3I5gZk-00944-00201594-00201923 we would disagree and because there's
3As9T3I5gZk-00945-00201924-00202097 not one truth in a lot of these
3As9T3I5gZk-00946-00202098-00202193 different things there are certain
3As9T3I5gZk-00947-00202194-00202385 things that we can agree upon but
3As9T3I5gZk-00948-00202386-00202504 sometimes I'm going to say well that's
3As9T3I5gZk-00949-00202505-00202649 clearly a joke it's not a big deal and
3As9T3I5gZk-00950-00202650-00202864 you're gonna say no that's that's that
3As9T3I5gZk-00951-00202865-00203050 could be dangerous to somebody who's not
3As9T3I5gZk-00952-00203051-00203254 that bright or something like that
3As9T3I5gZk-00953-00203255-00203375 um we're going to disagree on what
3As9T3I5gZk-00954-00203376-00203495 should be allowed and what shouldn't
3As9T3I5gZk-00955-00203496-00203747 what was a Justified suppression and
3As9T3I5gZk-00956-00203748-00203993 what wasn't which way the people that
3As9T3I5gZk-00957-00203994-00204221 were being suppressed actually leaned it
3As9T3I5gZk-00958-00204222-00204557 we would never agree on it yeah and so I
3As9T3I5gZk-00959-00204558-00204778 I think when that happens and especially
3As9T3I5gZk-00960-00204779-00204964 when the FBI isn't involved and looking
3As9T3I5gZk-00961-00204965-00205198 at personal information like this they
3As9T3I5gZk-00962-00205200-00205331 don't have warrants to do this type of
3As9T3I5gZk-00963-00205332-00205558 stuff just stay out of it they shouldn't
3As9T3I5gZk-00964-00205559-00205792 be involved in this well yeah and it
3As9T3I5gZk-00965-00205794-00205948 does bring up the point that you and I
3As9T3I5gZk-00966-00205950-00206134 really can't answer which is how much of
3As9T3I5gZk-00967-00206135-00206314 this this type of work how much of it is
3As9T3I5gZk-00968-00206315-00206494 actually requiring of a warrant you know
3As9T3I5gZk-00969-00206496-00206734 if if Facebook and Twitter are selling
3As9T3I5gZk-00970-00206735-00207010 some of the data to any private company
3As9T3I5gZk-00971-00207011-00207407 that that wants to pay for it if if uh
3As9T3I5gZk-00972-00207408-00207712 the FBI has essentially access to the
3As9T3I5gZk-00973-00207713-00207994 same information then it's it there's
3As9T3I5gZk-00974-00207996-00208175 nothing illegal that's happening but if
3As9T3I5gZk-00975-00208176-00208301 they're going beyond that if they're
3As9T3I5gZk-00976-00208302-00208564 using the The Authority that they have
3As9T3I5gZk-00977-00208565-00208721 as a representative of the federal
3As9T3I5gZk-00978-00208721-00208948 government as an investigating body and
3As9T3I5gZk-00979-00208950-00209092 using that to apply a little bit of
3As9T3I5gZk-00980-00209094-00209219 pressure then they're absolutely wrong
3As9T3I5gZk-00981-00209219-00209386 and let me say that although you and I
3As9T3I5gZk-00982-00209387-00209596 disagree on little bits and pieces I do
3As9T3I5gZk-00983-00209598-00209969 agree with you that there was potential
3As9T3I5gZk-00984-00209969-00210244 um for for bad acting that there may
3As9T3I5gZk-00985-00210246-00210448 have even been some bad acting going on
3As9T3I5gZk-00986-00210450-00210707 and that the FBI needs to be very
3As9T3I5gZk-00987-00210708-00210989 careful in those situations that they
3As9T3I5gZk-00988-00210990-00211258 that they they Total Line because they
3As9T3I5gZk-00989-00211259-00211439 they are law enforcement it's easy to
3As9T3I5gZk-00990-00211440-00211601 get you know to take that sort of power
3As9T3I5gZk-00991-00211602-00211781 and run too far with it
3As9T3I5gZk-00992-00211782-00211948 yeah especially you and I talked a
3As9T3I5gZk-00993-00211950-00212182 little while ago about how um was it
3As9T3I5gZk-00994-00212183-00212339 there was a story about the Indian Prime
3As9T3I5gZk-00995-00212340-00212591 Minister and they asked Twitter to
3As9T3I5gZk-00996-00212592-00212819 suppress the story and he said that was
3As9T3I5gZk-00997-00212819-00213065 inappropriate I mean that's that's a
3As9T3I5gZk-00998-00213066-00213232 great example like what we say is well
3As9T3I5gZk-00999-00213233-00213406 when the government you what you what I
3As9T3I5gZk-01000-00213407-00213527 say is they should stay out of this
3As9T3I5gZk-01001-00213528-00213737 completely what you say is they can get
3As9T3I5gZk-01002-00213738-00213898 involved as long as they don't go too
3As9T3I5gZk-01003-00213900-00214132 far you know as long as they toe the
3As9T3I5gZk-01004-00214133-00214391 line as you put it and you know the
3As9T3I5gZk-01005-00214392-00214625 problem that I have with that is you
3As9T3I5gZk-01006-00214626-00214769 just never know who the next guy in
3As9T3I5gZk-01007-00214769-00214942 charge is going to be is it going to be
3As9T3I5gZk-01008-00214944-00215363 uh Barack Obama Joe Biden or Donald
3As9T3I5gZk-01009-00215364-00215573 Trump like let's just have these guys
3As9T3I5gZk-01010-00215573-00215753 stay out of it because we don't you know
3As9T3I5gZk-01011-00215754-00215932 and and similarly is it going to be is
3As9T3I5gZk-01012-00215933-00216137 is it going to be an FBI agent that's
3As9T3I5gZk-01013-00216138-00216346 you know along those lines which one of
3As9T3I5gZk-01014-00216348-00216508 those people are we going to get so just
3As9T3I5gZk-01015-00216509-00216658 stay out of it because I don't want them
3As9T3I5gZk-01016-00216659-00216784 to get involved in this stuff there's
3As9T3I5gZk-01017-00216785-00216917 too much power that they have there's
3As9T3I5gZk-01018-00216917-00217108 too much of an implied threat and once
3As9T3I5gZk-01019-00217109-00217234 they step over the line how do we bring
3As9T3I5gZk-01020-00217235-00217432 them back right it's not like we just
3As9T3I5gZk-01021-00217433-00217631 vote for somebody different and the only
3As9T3I5gZk-01022-00217632-00217751 reason why we know about this is because
3As9T3I5gZk-01023-00217752-00217925 someone went through and dug it out and
3As9T3I5gZk-01024-00217926-00218056 allowed it to be out there in the open
3As9T3I5gZk-01025-00218057-00218321 if and the one thing that I do give Elon
3As9T3I5gZk-01026-00218321-00218506 Musk credit for is allowing this sort of
3As9T3I5gZk-01027-00218507-00218651 thing to happen now we did have a bit of
3As9T3I5gZk-01028-00218652-00218939 a a motive because he wanted to make the
3As9T3I5gZk-01029-00218940-00219094 the previous owners look bad and him
3As9T3I5gZk-01030-00219096-00219292 look good but at the same time he gave
3As9T3I5gZk-01031-00219294-00219473 that he gave the access and if he hadn't
3As9T3I5gZk-01032-00219473-00219587 done that we wouldn't have had this
3As9T3I5gZk-01033-00219588-00219803 information so in that sense you know I
3As9T3I5gZk-01034-00219804-00220055 do I do want to thank him for it 44
3As9T3I5gZk-01035-00220056-00220344 billion dollars well spent
3As9T3I5gZk-01036-00220346-00220642 yeah yeah yeah all right so we got to
3As9T3I5gZk-01037-00220644-00220792 call it down there
3As9T3I5gZk-01038-00220794-00221032 um uh what do we say the next one's
3As9T3I5gZk-01039-00221033-00221273 going to be we're going to talk about
3As9T3I5gZk-01040-00221273-00221398 artificial intelligence we're going to
3As9T3I5gZk-01041-00221400-00221542 figure out a way to break it up into
3As9T3I5gZk-01042-00221544-00221789 some smaller chunks and uh so give some
3As9T3I5gZk-01043-00221790-00221956 thought to that and we'll talk again
3As9T3I5gZk-01044-00221957-00222448 next week okay thanks Colin all right
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3B9kVrU6Eby-00000-00000005-00000274 one thing I've found with with younger
3B9kVrU6Eby-00001-00000275-00000466 Generations is is they have a great
3B9kVrU6Eby-00002-00000467-00000724 sense of um a work-life balance and but
3B9kVrU6Eby-00003-00000725-00000879 also what
3B9kVrU6Eby-00004-00000880-00001179 um the the great asset they have which
3B9kVrU6Eby-00005-00001180-00001486 is time and time is something that you
3B9kVrU6Eby-00006-00001487-00001677 we have a limited amount of right we
3B9kVrU6Eby-00007-00001678-00001864 can't make any more of it
3B9kVrU6Eby-00008-00001864-00002242 um and it's very important in a job uh
3B9kVrU6Eby-00009-00002243-00002374 they uh that they understand that
3B9kVrU6Eby-00010-00002375-00002512 they're doing something that's valuable
3B9kVrU6Eby-00011-00002513-00002778 and useful
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00000-00000377-00000749 hey friends today is about notch EQ this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00001-00000750-00000996 is a technique that I believe can make
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00002-00000997-00001269 your mixes sound exponentially better if
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00003-00001270-00001607 it's used properly and sparingly let's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00004-00001609-00001814 go ahead and drag an EQ weight onto this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00005-00001816-00001941 drum track and this is what the drum
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00006-00001942-00002862 track sounds like okay the this is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00007-00002863-00003024 actually I know it looks like it's Thera
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00008-00003025-00003206 but this is just a bounce tone of a mono
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00009-00003207-00003621 room mic on a drum set and just with one
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00010-00003622-00003795 microphone drums can start to get all
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00011-00003796-00004154 out of sorts with extra harmonics and so
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00012-00004155-00004383 what we're going to do the process of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00013-00004384-00004695 nachi cueing is finding specific
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00014-00004696-00004956 frequencies or specific ranges of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00015-00004957-00005268 frequencies that we either like or
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00016-00005269-00005577 dislike and removing or adding them to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00017-00005578-00005936 the mix and what's really great about EQ
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00018-00005937-00006147 8 is if you hit this little headphone
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00019-00006148-00006518 icon what will happen then is any EQ the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00020-00006519-00006753 EQ band that you click on depending upon
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00021-00006754-00006978 how wide the the Q setting is it will
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00022-00006979-00007203 solo out that band so let's go ahead and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00023-00007204-00007791 listen to what that sounds like now when
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00024-00007792-00007950 I click on it nothing happens because I
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00025-00007951-00008238 haven't boosted or cut anything okay
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00026-00008239-00008553 but as I start to boost or as I start to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00027-00008554-00008784 cut you'll hear that frequency range get
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00028-00008785-00008999 louder and quieter this is specifically
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00029-00009000-00009276 designed for this nachi cueing technique
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00030-00009277-00009396 so what I'm going to do is I'm going to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00031-00009397-00009576 listen to the drum set and figure out
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00032-00009577-00009870 areas of the drum set that are working
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00033-00009871-00010139 me so let's listen again and I really
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00034-00010140-00010287 recommend that you do these mixing
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00035-00010288-00010494 lessons with headphones or within a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00036-00010495-00010710 quiet environment with your speaker's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00037-00010711-00010910 turned up just so that we can listen to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00038-00010911-00011048 detail so let's listen to this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00039-00011049-00011487 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00040-00011488-00011815 so what I'm hearing is a couple
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00041-00011816-00012046 different things I'm hearing a lot of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00042-00012047-00012253 extra frequencies in the in the kick
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00043-00012254-00012508 drum it's it's very round and huge
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00044-00012509-00012679 sounding now maybe that's something that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00045-00012680-00012925 you want but in this case I'd like the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00046-00012926-00013069 kick drum to have a little bit of a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00047-00013069-00013369 little bit less of the upper ranges of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00048-00013369-00013711 it's it's it's kick so that the the bass
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00049-00013712-00013891 instrument can come through a little bit
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00050-00013891-00013996 so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna listen
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00051-00013997-00014158 to this I'm gonna try to find that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00052-00014159-00015121 frequency range that I don't want so and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00053-00015122-00015586 so as you can see yeah right there
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00054-00015587-00015784 around a hundred there's just a bunch of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00055-00015785-00015931 extra information that I don't really
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00056-00015932-00016135 think is necessary to my mix so I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00057-00016136-00016431 going to turn that down a little bit and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00058-00016432-00016740 that's the range I want to get rid of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00059-00016741-00017014 and now as you can see as I let go of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00060-00017015-00017191 that it's kind of pulled that out okay
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00061-00017192-00017469 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00062-00017470-00017689 and now the other thing that I'm hearing
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00063-00017690-00017956 is that there's a lot of pressure in
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00064-00017957-00018196 what sounds to me like the three or four
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00065-00018197-00018418 K range let's let's find out I'm gonna
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00066-00018419-00018826 get another band going and I'm gonna
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00067-00018827-00019047 really really dial in that cue okay to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00068-00019048-00019243 try to really find where that frequency
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00069-00019244-00019390 is as you go up the frequency spectrum
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00070-00019391-00019666 your your resonant frequencies these
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00071-00019667-00019825 these these Arents frequencies that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00072-00019826-00019947 we're looking for are going to get
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00073-00019948-00020250 smaller and smaller in range okay so I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00074-00020251-00020428 already know that my cue needs to go up
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00075-00020429-00020544 a little bit when I'm when I'm working
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00076-00020545-00020688 in this range so it's good and play it
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00077-00020689-00021047 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00078-00021048-00021310 now I think that the immediate idea is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00079-00021311-00021484 like you all that kind of drives me nuts
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00080-00021485-00021631 well that's because it's a big that's a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00081-00021632-00021772 big cut or boost or whatever and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00082-00021773-00021910 remember cutting and boosting does the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00083-00021911-00022138 same exact thing when you are clicking
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00084-00022139-00022360 on this headphone thing all right it's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00085-00022361-00022558 gonna turn it up as you get away from
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00086-00022559-00022879 zero okay so I'm gonna slide up until it
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00087-00022880-00023455 really hits me there it is that's one of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00088-00023456-00023590 those ranges that was really bothering
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00089-00023591-00023884 me okay so I'm gonna take that out
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00090-00023885-00024055 alright now I'm going to click on four
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00091-00024056-00024331 but notice that four is a shelving EQ
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00092-00024332-00024535 you notice this little symbol here we
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00093-00024536-00024649 want it to look like this we want it to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00094-00024650-00025255 be a a bell curve okay so now that I
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00095-00025256-00025360 have this bell curve I'm going to turn
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00096-00025361-00025516 the Q up I'll try to find another one of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00097-00025517-00025882 those frequencies those are null and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00098-00025883-00026730 right next to it and right next door
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00099-00026731-00027167 okay so I'm going to let go and I've got
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00100-00027168-00027374 both of those frequencies taken out okay
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00101-00027375-00027568 now I know that some of you might be
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00102-00027569-00027710 being like whoa man that's like a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00103-00027711-00028007 negative 12 DB cut there yes it is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00104-00028008-00028157 extreme but the reason I'm doing this is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00105-00028158-00028298 so that you can really hear the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00106-00028299-00028793 difference okay so as with any effect
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00107-00028794-00028904 that we ever do I'm going to turn this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00108-00028905-00029114 band off as with any effect that we ever
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00109-00029114-00029452 use we always want to gain match what
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00110-00029453-00029756 that means is that I've cut a pretty
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00111-00029757-00030202 solid amount of DB out of this track
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00112-00030202-00030595 when I turn the EQ off it's going to get
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00113-00030597-00030806 a little bit louder and so you might
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00114-00030807-00030952 assume that that is going to be an
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00115-00030953-00031226 improvement of sound but what you really
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00116-00031227-00031390 want to do is is the reason that this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00117-00031391-00031639 gain control exists right here so that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00118-00031640-00031943 you can turn this back up and truly a be
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00119-00031944-00032233 compared between what the EQ is doing to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00120-00032234-00032426 your track and and what it sounds like
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00121-00032427-00032612 with it off you want it to be about the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00122-00032613-00032851 same volume so you can make an educated
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00123-00032852-00033208 and and enlightened decision as to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00124-00033209-00033392 whether you should use this effect or
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00125-00033393-00033611 not so here's what the drumset sounded
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00126-00033612-00034130 like before okay this is Eric
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00127-00034131-00034286 frequencies fine I'm gonna turn the EQ
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00128-00034287-00034310 on
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00129-00034311-00034665 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00130-00034666-00035005 and notice that it sounds just a little
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00131-00035006-00035126 bit cleaner a little bit easier to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00132-00035127-00035345 listen to a little bit softer on the ear
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00133-00035346-00035827 okay so you can really hear it when I
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00134-00035828-00035983 turn it back on those frequencies just
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00135-00035984-00036242 jump out at you those those rough those
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00136-00036243-00037177 rough resonant sounds okay so now I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00137-00037178-00037352 gonna move on to the guitar track for
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00138-00037353-00037595 this for this tune and let's go ahead
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00139-00037596-00037811 and listen to that don't need that tuner
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00140-00037812-00038099 there drag an EQ and let's just listen
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00141-00038100-00038413 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00142-00038414-00038724 [Applause]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00143-00038725-00038995 the most important part of all this is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00144-00038996-00039329 listening really listen for like the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00145-00039330-00039524 cueing should be a deliberate action
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00146-00039525-00039790 it's all about listening so what I hear
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00147-00039791-00039849 right now
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00148-00039850-00039959 [Applause]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00149-00039960-00040187 kind of a resonant frequency it's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00150-00040188-00040331 probably the sound hole of the guitar
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00151-00040332-00040667 kind of one fan out if you will so I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00152-00040668-00041006 gonna click on this this band right here
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00153-00041007-00041180 number two I'm gonna turn the Q up just
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00154-00041181-00041405 a little bit hit my headphone thing on
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00155-00041406-00041570 and I'm gonna try to find that frequency
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00156-00041571-00042034 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00157-00042035-00042509 yep there it is I knew I heard it so let
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00158-00042510-00043157 go wow
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00159-00043158-00043406 the difference just that made was was
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00160-00043407-00043812 huge and maybe that's all you need to do
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00161-00043813-00044023 but another thing that you can use not
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00162-00044024-00044323 gq4 is is just a little broadband boost
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00163-00044324-00044514 and you can you can also use it to kind
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00164-00044515-00044673 of listen to rate maybe a full range
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00165-00044674-00044871 that you'd want to that you'd want to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00166-00044872-00045048 boost and in this case I feel like there
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00167-00045049-00045162 could be just a little bit more top-end
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00168-00045163-00045345 on the on the guitar so I'm gonna find
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00169-00045346-00045607 out where would that be pleasing mm-hmm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00170-00045608-00045730 and I'm gonna use BAM for and I'm gonna
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00171-00045731-00045973 turn it into a bell curve okay and I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00172-00045974-00046186 just gonna listen to what ranges sound
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00173-00046187-00046671 pleasing to my ears to boost see if I if
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00174-00046672-00046818 I boost this area I get a lot of that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00175-00046819-00047314 pick action there I get some of those
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00176-00047315-00047826 high harmonics notes that adds a little
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00177-00047827-00048208 bit of that nice mid-range I think I
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00178-00048209-00048301 just want to get some of that pick
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00179-00048302-00049042 action just a little bit okay so now
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00180-00049043-00049273 that I've added a little bit I imagine
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00181-00049274-00049414 that this EQ is not gonna change the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00182-00049415-00049516 game too much
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00183-00049517-00049549 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00184-00049550-00049771 [Applause]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00185-00049772-00050037 but it did so I'm gonna have to add
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00186-00050038-00050277 maybe about a DB so now I can truly a/b
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00187-00050278-00050558 these these these two with the EQ on
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00188-00050559-00050823 with the EQ off
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00189-00050824-00051209 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00190-00051210-00051404 and the difference that one little band
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00191-00051404-00051749 cut makes is is just huge okay so then
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00192-00051750-00051915 we're gonna move on to the synth track
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00193-00051916-00052115 sounds like this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00194-00052116-00052271 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00195-00052272-00053411 [Applause]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00196-00053412-00053622 tell you what let's do this a different
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00197-00053623-00053741 way we're gonna listen to this synth
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00198-00053742-00053939 track along with the guitar
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00199-00053940-00054737 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00200-00054738-00054962 so something I'm noticing is that first
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00201-00054963-00055388 note though is kind of the same note
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00202-00055389-00055610 that the guitar root note is hitting so
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00203-00055611-00055808 I kind of want to find that note and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00204-00055809-00056009 what's nice about these synth tracks is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00205-00056010-00056261 that they're a synthesizer in general is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00206-00056262-00056404 going to make a little bit more
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00207-00056405-00056782 controlled resonant peaks and and and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00208-00056783-00057074 resonant frequencies because it's just
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00209-00057075-00057367 it's programmed to do so so when we look
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00210-00057369-00057512 at this with an EQ eight we can really
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00211-00057513-00057785 start to see where those harmonics are
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00212-00057786-00057934 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00213-00057935-00058491 much more control
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00214-00058492-00058747 and to me that might be encroaching a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00215-00058748-00058974 little bit on my on my guitar track so
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00216-00058975-00059175 what I can do is leaving the guitar
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00217-00059176-00059607 track on I can turn the headphone on for
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00218-00059608-00059766 the EQ eight and still listen to the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00219-00059767-00059868 guitar while I'm trying to find that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00220-00059869-00060545 frequency
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00221-00060546-00060779 actually I'm going to turn the queue up
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00222-00060780-00060915 just a little bit so that I can get a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00223-00060916-00061070 little bit more narrow above
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00224-00061071-00061312 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00225-00061313-00061877 okay so I'm just gonna remove that area
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00226-00061878-00062045 and see how that kind of opens up that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00227-00062046-00062516 mid-range of the guitar
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00228-00062516-00062690 [Music]
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00229-00062691-00063077 okay so that is gonna need just a little
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00230-00063078-00063287 bit of game probably about a DB let's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00231-00063288-00064166 listen to the before and after here's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00232-00064166-00064316 another thing to think about when I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00233-00064316-00064676 adding gain with my EQ another way that
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00234-00064677-00064787 you could think about this is that I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00235-00064788-00065090 actually adding a DB to all the other
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00236-00065091-00065327 frequencies beside this range and this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00237-00065328-00065567 range is actually only being cut by you
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00238-00065568-00065909 know four DB instead of five that might
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00239-00065910-00066056 be hard to think about but when you're
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00240-00066057-00066287 adding gain but you're cutting something
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00241-00066288-00066494 you're kind of shifting the whole thing
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00242-00066495-00066755 up a little bit so as I turn this on and
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00243-00066756-00067454 off in fact let's take a look at this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00244-00067455-00067706 just just to further this this idea for
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00245-00067707-00068117 you look at the vu meter even with the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00246-00068118-00068372 decibel added that subtraction of gain
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00247-00068373-00068633 right there really really backs this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00248-00068634-00068792 thing off so right now we're we're
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00249-00068793-00069081 hovering up here and when I turn this on
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00250-00069082-00069351 look how much less there is especially
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00251-00069352-00069720 in the rms levels which is this brighter
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00252-00069721-00070416 green off it's almost a total even with
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00253-00070417-00070779 a decibel gain introduced back into this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00254-00070780-00070907 track
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00255-00070908-00071444 there is almost a 2vv lakhs but to my
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00256-00071445-00071654 ears because there's a brighter signal
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00257-00071655-00071898 happening now that this has changed to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00258-00071899-00072072 my ears it sounds about the same level
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00259-00072073-00072374 and that in and of itself is a really
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00260-00072375-00072548 important concept to think about the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00261-00072549-00072773 brighter something is the louder it is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00262-00072774-00073076 to you in in in in the way that humans
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00263-00073077-00073355 here so I don't really need to add
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00264-00073356-00073542 anymore gain even though I'm having less
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00265-00073543-00073712 and and what what that's going to do is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00266-00073713-00073866 it's going to translate at in the very
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00267-00073867-00074129 end as I mix this track down into a
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00268-00074130-00074462 louder mix okay so let's go and listen
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00269-00074463-00074579 to the bass and see if there's anything
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00270-00074580-00074729 we want to do to it I think the bass is
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00271-00074730-00075230 pretty good but let's listen
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00272-00075231-00075398 yeah you know I think the base is gonna
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00273-00075399-00075617 be just fine so what I'm gonna do is I'm
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00274-00075618-00075798 going to play all these tracks together
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00275-00075799-00076253 without the eq's on okay and and a way
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00276-00076254-00076466 that I like to a be stuff is I like to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00277-00076467-00076790 use the key mapper and just go into each
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00278-00076791-00076975 one of these tracks and map the on/off
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00279-00076976-00077644 switch to Q by Q key and that way if I
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00280-00077645-00077929 hit Q it will turn on and off all the e
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00281-00077930-00078365 cues that I have in this entire mix okay
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00282-00078366-00078580 so I can a be the entire thing so here's
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00283-00078581-00078710 with all the EQ is off
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00285-00082655-00082912 okay so just notice those tiny little
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00286-00082913-00083206 changes just the smallest little changes
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00287-00083207-00083440 really really really help the mix now of
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00288-00083441-00083680 course there'd be more EQ that I would
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00289-00083681-00083881 do but what all that I'm doing in this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00290-00083882-00084286 case is removing and adding frequencies
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00291-00084287-00084580 that in specific bands that I really
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00292-00084581-00084745 want to hear or that I really want out
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00293-00084746-00084886 of there and that's what
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00294-00084887-00085216 Nachi cueing can do for you in maybe in
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00295-00085217-00085360 the small scope in each one of these
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00296-00085361-00085522 little tracks it doesn't seem like a big
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00297-00085523-00085738 change but by the time you've got sixty
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00298-00085739-00085966 tracks running and you have layers on
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00299-00085967-00086206 layers on layers it makes the biggest
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00300-00086207-00086446 difference ever to go in there and find
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00301-00086447-00086623 those frequencies that are irritating to
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00302-00086624-00086815 the ear get those out of there and find
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00303-00086816-00086959 those frequencies that you really need
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00304-00086960-00087115 and get in the back in there using this
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00305-00087116-00087469 little headphone icon right here and the
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00306-00087470-00087877 the knotch filter on EQ 8 so I hope you
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00307-00087878-00088018 enjoyed this video and I hope that you
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00308-00088019-00088423 use this tactic profusely thanks for
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00309-00088424-00088582 watching everybody like comment
3Cs2vgZCcQY-00310-00088583-00088972 subscribe I'll see you next time thanks
3CxDQVQWRcY-00000-00000000-00000286 on um we are running out of time and
3CxDQVQWRcY-00001-00000287-00000342 this is
3CxDQVQWRcY-00002-00000343-00000647 uh the moment for uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00003-00000648-00001031 making some uh final uh remarks
3CxDQVQWRcY-00004-00001032-00001366 uh i feel that today uh the debate was
3CxDQVQWRcY-00005-00001367-00001407 uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00006-00001408-00001718 extremely fruitful throughout the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00007-00001719-00002142 different panelists in the three panels
3CxDQVQWRcY-00008-00002143-00002463 of which the conference uh was composed
3CxDQVQWRcY-00009-00002464-00002726 and i enjoyed very much the fact that
3CxDQVQWRcY-00010-00002727-00002863 there was a kind of
3CxDQVQWRcY-00011-00002864-00003222 very spontaneous uh dialogue between
3CxDQVQWRcY-00012-00003223-00003559 the panelists not only because
3CxDQVQWRcY-00013-00003560-00003935 the kovid pandemic and the challenges
3CxDQVQWRcY-00014-00003936-00004319 it poses has been a topic
3CxDQVQWRcY-00015-00004320-00004631 central in all three panels but also
3CxDQVQWRcY-00016-00004632-00004838 because the centrality
3CxDQVQWRcY-00017-00004839-00005206 of uh human rights the centrality
3CxDQVQWRcY-00018-00005207-00005591 of a rule of law and the necessity
3CxDQVQWRcY-00019-00005592-00005911 to empower individuals uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00020-00005912-00006263 has provided a common ground
3CxDQVQWRcY-00021-00006264-00006614 uh for uh debate and this was uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00022-00006615-00006959 extremely interesting and one of the key
3CxDQVQWRcY-00023-00006959-00007215 for the success of this uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00024-00007216-00007383 [Music]
3CxDQVQWRcY-00025-00007384-00007751 conference just very shortly wrapping up
3CxDQVQWRcY-00026-00007752-00007951 during the first panel we have been
3CxDQVQWRcY-00027-00007952-00008183 dealing extensively
3CxDQVQWRcY-00028-00008184-00008471 with the concept of good governance the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00029-00008472-00008574 panelists
3CxDQVQWRcY-00030-00008575-00008974 have tried have contributed to unpacking
3CxDQVQWRcY-00031-00008975-00009223 uh this this concept and we have seen
3CxDQVQWRcY-00032-00009224-00009310 that
3CxDQVQWRcY-00033-00009311-00009663 uh central to this concept is of course
3CxDQVQWRcY-00034-00009664-00009767 the respect
3CxDQVQWRcY-00035-00009768-00010095 of the principle of rule of law which
3CxDQVQWRcY-00036-00010096-00010231 implies not only
3CxDQVQWRcY-00037-00010232-00010583 the respect for the rules but also
3CxDQVQWRcY-00038-00010584-00010942 the fact that rules have to be applied
3CxDQVQWRcY-00039-00010943-00011295 equally without any form of
3CxDQVQWRcY-00040-00011296-00011583 discrimination moreover also the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00041-00011584-00011838 neutrality of the judicial system was
3CxDQVQWRcY-00042-00011839-00011910 very much
3CxDQVQWRcY-00043-00011911-00012174 not only in this spot not only in this
3CxDQVQWRcY-00044-00012175-00012310 panel but also
3CxDQVQWRcY-00045-00012311-00012614 in the panel on human rights
3CxDQVQWRcY-00046-00012615-00012951 and we have heard uh often also about
3CxDQVQWRcY-00047-00012952-00013247 the concept of accountability of
3CxDQVQWRcY-00048-00013247-00013391 decision makers
3CxDQVQWRcY-00049-00013391-00013599 which is fundamental not only for the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00050-00013600-00013694 rule of law
3CxDQVQWRcY-00051-00013695-00013999 with governance and human rights but
3CxDQVQWRcY-00052-00014000-00014335 also for sustainable development
3CxDQVQWRcY-00053-00014336-00014655 and they've also heard very often
3CxDQVQWRcY-00054-00014656-00014999 that governments can do
3CxDQVQWRcY-00055-00015000-00015343 a lot can be central
3CxDQVQWRcY-00056-00015344-00015727 to enhancing respect for rule of law
3CxDQVQWRcY-00057-00015728-00016079 governance human rights and also
3CxDQVQWRcY-00058-00016080-00016486 for economic and sustainable development
3CxDQVQWRcY-00059-00016487-00016822 but civil society are at the same time
3CxDQVQWRcY-00060-00016823-00017150 key actors that we don't have
3CxDQVQWRcY-00061-00017151-00017527 to be passive but as we have debated
3CxDQVQWRcY-00062-00017528-00017607 today
3CxDQVQWRcY-00063-00017608-00017999 our rights uh including in constitutions
3CxDQVQWRcY-00064-00018000-00018247 in ordinary legislation in international
3CxDQVQWRcY-00065-00018248-00018367 treaties
3CxDQVQWRcY-00066-00018368-00018727 are not guarantees their rights
3CxDQVQWRcY-00067-00018728-00019063 that can and must be fulfilled
3CxDQVQWRcY-00068-00019064-00019391 and this form of fulfillment strongly
3CxDQVQWRcY-00069-00019392-00019511 depends
3CxDQVQWRcY-00070-00019512-00019822 also on our individual
3CxDQVQWRcY-00071-00019823-00020127 and proactive attitude
3CxDQVQWRcY-00072-00020128-00020550 we have heard also very much about
3CxDQVQWRcY-00073-00020551-00020878 gender equality as a challenge
3CxDQVQWRcY-00074-00020879-00021199 which is common to different
3CxDQVQWRcY-00075-00021200-00021550 societies in eastern europe in western
3CxDQVQWRcY-00076-00021551-00021639 europe
3CxDQVQWRcY-00077-00021640-00021950 in the balkans and also in
3CxDQVQWRcY-00078-00021951-00022255 in central asia
3CxDQVQWRcY-00079-00022256-00022583 and i think that also a common ground
3CxDQVQWRcY-00080-00022584-00022950 throughout the different panels and also
3CxDQVQWRcY-00081-00022951-00023422 a recipe to guarantee good governance
3CxDQVQWRcY-00082-00023423-00023750 human rights and sustainable development
3CxDQVQWRcY-00083-00023751-00023999 is the right to education it was
3CxDQVQWRcY-00084-00024000-00024119 mentioned
3CxDQVQWRcY-00085-00024120-00024439 often in all panels and i mean
3CxDQVQWRcY-00086-00024440-00024711 as a representative of urges cell here i
3CxDQVQWRcY-00087-00024712-00024863 mean i cannot
3CxDQVQWRcY-00088-00024864-00025271 uh avoid stressing how the right to
3CxDQVQWRcY-00089-00025272-00025535 education the right to human rights
3CxDQVQWRcY-00090-00025536-00025887 education is crucial because and it will
3CxDQVQWRcY-00091-00025888-00026039 remain crucial because it's
3CxDQVQWRcY-00092-00026039-00026383 an empowering right now
3CxDQVQWRcY-00093-00026383-00026607 unfortunately due to time reasons have
3CxDQVQWRcY-00094-00026608-00026751 to limit myself
3CxDQVQWRcY-00095-00026752-00027087 to these remarks but i do not consider
3CxDQVQWRcY-00096-00027088-00027318 the end of this conference the end of
3CxDQVQWRcY-00097-00027319-00027470 our dialogue
3CxDQVQWRcY-00098-00027472-00027783 i think that this could be simply a
3CxDQVQWRcY-00099-00027783-00027887 first stone
3CxDQVQWRcY-00100-00027888-00028207 the basis for sharing again
3CxDQVQWRcY-00101-00028208-00028518 all together and we with other speakers
3CxDQVQWRcY-00102-00028519-00028774 i mean other possibilities of dialogue
3CxDQVQWRcY-00103-00028775-00028887 and other
3CxDQVQWRcY-00104-00028888-00029295 platforms and i remain uh committed
3CxDQVQWRcY-00105-00029295-00029631 to rgs l uh cooperation
3CxDQVQWRcY-00106-00029632-00029999 again to with the government of latvia
3CxDQVQWRcY-00107-00030000-00030351 and uh with the norwegian government
3CxDQVQWRcY-00108-00030352-00030551 uh with which we have started a very
3CxDQVQWRcY-00109-00030552-00030767 fruitful and consolidated
3CxDQVQWRcY-00110-00030768-00031118 um cooperation to set up
3CxDQVQWRcY-00111-00031119-00031455 and establish other possibility for
3CxDQVQWRcY-00112-00031456-00031751 debating i mean uh our ideas and i
3CxDQVQWRcY-00113-00031752-00031799 really
3CxDQVQWRcY-00114-00031800-00032102 look uh forward to uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00115-00032103-00032414 the possibility to have next year
3CxDQVQWRcY-00116-00032416-00032799 another uh conference uh more or less
3CxDQVQWRcY-00117-00032800-00033151 tailored on uh the same format
3CxDQVQWRcY-00118-00033152-00033343 uh all they said i would like to thank
3CxDQVQWRcY-00119-00033344-00033487 all the participants
3CxDQVQWRcY-00120-00033488-00033839 in uh uh this uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00121-00033840-00034143 conference uh all the speakers uh the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00122-00034144-00034246 organizers
3CxDQVQWRcY-00123-00034247-00034559 uh my colleagues our alumni and
3CxDQVQWRcY-00124-00034560-00034831 uh our students and in the hope that i'm
3CxDQVQWRcY-00125-00034832-00034959 not forgetting
3CxDQVQWRcY-00126-00034960-00035318 uh anybody uh i uh
3CxDQVQWRcY-00127-00035319-00035646 have the pleasure uh i mean to i've had
3CxDQVQWRcY-00128-00035647-00035807 this pleasure to share with you
3CxDQVQWRcY-00129-00035808-00036079 uh this debate but now unfortunately the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00130-00036080-00036255 moment to close the conference
3CxDQVQWRcY-00131-00036256-00036487 has arrived i hope we will meet very
3CxDQVQWRcY-00132-00036488-00036574 soon again
3CxDQVQWRcY-00133-00036575-00036983 thank you very much
3CxDQVQWRcY-00134-00036984-00037223 thank you so much thank you so much
3CxDQVQWRcY-00135-00037224-00037439 thank you honorable rector thank you
3CxDQVQWRcY-00136-00037440-00037727 to our previously distinguished panel as
3CxDQVQWRcY-00137-00037728-00037790 well
3CxDQVQWRcY-00138-00037791-00038062 and indeed the time has come as our
3CxDQVQWRcY-00139-00038063-00038199 rector already mentioned we hope that
3CxDQVQWRcY-00140-00038200-00038318 this isn't the end
3CxDQVQWRcY-00141-00038319-00038527 we will continue our work and our
3CxDQVQWRcY-00142-00038528-00038639 commitment
3CxDQVQWRcY-00143-00038640-00038902 to working with the regions and with
3CxDQVQWRcY-00144-00038903-00039159 this we conclude the conference
3CxDQVQWRcY-00145-00039160-00039399 entitled on our way to 2013 delivering
3CxDQVQWRcY-00146-00039400-00039543 for prosperous
3CxDQVQWRcY-00147-00039544-00039871 uh and resilient societies which was
3CxDQVQWRcY-00148-00039872-00040055 implemented by rio graduate school of
3CxDQVQWRcY-00149-00040056-00040215 law in cooperation with the ministry of
3CxDQVQWRcY-00150-00040216-00040327 foreign affairs
3CxDQVQWRcY-00151-00040328-00040551 of the republic of latvia and the
3CxDQVQWRcY-00152-00040552-00040759 ministry of foreign affairs
3CxDQVQWRcY-00153-00040760-00040943 of the kingdom of norway thank you very
3CxDQVQWRcY-00154-00040944-00041087 much for watching
3CxDQVQWRcY-00155-00041088-00041343 the live stream will be recorded and
3CxDQVQWRcY-00156-00041344-00041446 available for
3CxDQVQWRcY-00157-00041447-00041607 viewing at a later time as well thank
3CxDQVQWRcY-00158-00041608-00041880 you
3CNxlu9ArHy-00000-00000313-00000711 [Music]
3CNxlu9ArHy-00001-00000712-00000943 we know that vegetarians tend to be
3CNxlu9ArHy-00002-00000944-00001070 slimmer but
3CNxlu9ArHy-00003-00001071-00001262 there's this perception that veg diets
3CNxlu9ArHy-00004-00001263-00001574 may be somehow deficient in nutrients so
3CNxlu9ArHy-00005-00001575-00001767 how's this for a simple study let's just
3CNxlu9ArHy-00006-00001768-00002047 analyze the diets of 13 000 people and
3CNxlu9ArHy-00007-00002048-00002223 compare the nutrient intake of those
3CNxlu9ArHy-00008-00002224-00002471 eating meat to those eating meat-free
3CNxlu9ArHy-00009-00002472-00002583 diets
3CNxlu9ArHy-00010-00002584-00002750 they found that those eating vegetarian
3CNxlu9ArHy-00011-00002751-00002958 were getting higher intakes of nearly
3CNxlu9ArHy-00012-00002959-00003191 every nutrient more fiber
3CNxlu9ArHy-00013-00003192-00003375 more vitamin a more vitamin c more
3CNxlu9ArHy-00014-00003376-00003654 vitamin e more of the b vitamins thiamin
3CNxlu9ArHy-00015-00003655-00003927 riboflavin folate more calcium magnesium
3CNxlu9ArHy-00016-00003928-00004079 iron potassium
3CNxlu9ArHy-00017-00004079-00004247 while at the same time eating less of
3CNxlu9ArHy-00018-00004248-00004415 the harmful stuff like saturated fat and
3CNxlu9ArHy-00019-00004416-00004686 cholesterol and yes they got enough
3CNxlu9ArHy-00020-00004687-00004838 protein
3CNxlu9ArHy-00021-00004839-00005015 and some of those nutrients look are the
3CNxlu9ArHy-00022-00005016-00005222 ones americans really struggle to get
3CNxlu9ArHy-00023-00005223-00005375 enough of fiber
3CNxlu9ArHy-00024-00005376-00005591 vitamins a c and e calcium magnesium
3CNxlu9ArHy-00025-00005592-00005854 potassium and those eating vegetarian
3CNxlu9ArHy-00026-00005855-00006127 got more of all of them
3CNxlu9ArHy-00027-00006128-00006351 even so though just because they did
3CNxlu9ArHy-00028-00006352-00006518 better than the standard american diet
3CNxlu9ArHy-00029-00006519-00006710 isn't saying much they still didn't get
3CNxlu9ArHy-00030-00006711-00006942 as much as they should have
3CNxlu9ArHy-00031-00006943-00007142 i mean yes those eating vegetarian ate
3CNxlu9ArHy-00032-00007143-00007334 significantly more dark green leafy
3CNxlu9ArHy-00033-00007336-00007606 vegetables but that comes out to just
3CNxlu9ArHy-00034-00007608-00007919 two teaspoons of greens more
3CNxlu9ArHy-00035-00007920-00008134 in terms of weight management the
3CNxlu9ArHy-00036-00008136-00008327 vegetarians were consuming on average
3CNxlu9ArHy-00037-00008328-00008487 363
3CNxlu9ArHy-00038-00008488-00008695 fewer calories every day
3CNxlu9ArHy-00039-00008696-00008974 that's like what people do when they go
3CNxlu9ArHy-00040-00008975-00009255 on a diet and restrict their food intake
3CNxlu9ArHy-00041-00009256-00009399 but that seemed just like what
3CNxlu9ArHy-00042-00009400-00009671 vegetarians ate normally so a vegetarian
3CNxlu9ArHy-00043-00009672-00009903 diet could be considered an
3CNxlu9ArHy-00044-00009904-00010023 to all-you-care-to-eat version of a
3CNxlu9ArHy-00045-00010024-00010263 calorie restricted weight loss diet
3CNxlu9ArHy-00046-00010264-00010463 naturally inducing weight loss and also
3CNxlu9ArHy-00047-00010464-00010678 helping maintain healthy weight status
3CNxlu9ArHy-00048-00010679-00010806 long term
3CNxlu9ArHy-00049-00010807-00010991 so just following a vegetarian diet
3CNxlu9ArHy-00050-00010992-00011174 alone without focusing on calorie
3CNxlu9ArHy-00051-00011175-00011519 reduction could result in weight loss
3CNxlu9ArHy-00052-00011520-00011783 how sustainable are more plant-based
3CNxlu9ArHy-00053-00011784-00012031 diets long-term they are in fact among
3CNxlu9ArHy-00054-00012032-00012238 the only type of diets that have been
3CNxlu9ArHy-00055-00012239-00012463 shown to be sustainable long-term
3CNxlu9ArHy-00056-00012464-00012695 perhaps because not only do people lose
3CNxlu9ArHy-00057-00012696-00012886 weight but they often feel so much
3CNxlu9ArHy-00058-00012887-00013007 better
3CNxlu9ArHy-00059-00013008-00013215 and there's no calorie counting or
3CNxlu9ArHy-00060-00013216-00013494 portion control in fact vegetarians may
3CNxlu9ArHy-00061-00013495-00013799 burn more calories in their sleep
3CNxlu9ArHy-00062-00013800-00013975 those eating more plant-based diets
3CNxlu9ArHy-00063-00013976-00014094 appear to have a
3CNxlu9ArHy-00064-00014095-00014447 11 percent higher resting metabolic rate
3CNxlu9ArHy-00065-00014447-00014655 both vegetarians and vegans in this
3CNxlu9ArHy-00066-00014656-00014830 study just naturally seem to have a
3CNxlu9ArHy-00067-00014831-00015103 revved up metabolism compared to those
3CNxlu9ArHy-00068-00015104-00015279 eating meat
3CNxlu9ArHy-00069-00015280-00015479 having said that the vegetarian diet
3CNxlu9ArHy-00070-00015480-00015719 pattern in this study included eating
3CNxlu9ArHy-00071-00015719-00015911 eggs and dairy so while they were
3CNxlu9ArHy-00072-00015912-00016135 significantly slimmer than those eating
3CNxlu9ArHy-00073-00016136-00016366 meat they were still on average
3CNxlu9ArHy-00074-00016368-00016527 overweight
3CNxlu9ArHy-00075-00016528-00016727 as we've seen before the only dietary
3CNxlu9ArHy-00076-00016728-00016950 pattern associated with on average an
3CNxlu9ArHy-00077-00016951-00017135 ideal body weight
3CNxlu9ArHy-00078-00017136-00017415 was a strictly plant-based one
3CNxlu9ArHy-00079-00017416-00017703 still this study does help dispel the
3CNxlu9ArHy-00080-00017704-00017886 myth that meat-free diets are somehow
3CNxlu9ArHy-00081-00017887-00018150 nutrient-deficient in fact in response
3CNxlu9ArHy-00082-00018151-00018286 the editor-in-chief of the journal of
3CNxlu9ArHy-00083-00018287-00018599 american dietetic association asked what
3CNxlu9ArHy-00084-00018600-00018822 could be more nutrient dense than a
3CNxlu9ArHy-00085-00018823-00019394 vegetarian diet
3CNxlu9ArHy-00086-00019395-00020847 [Music]
3CNxlu9ArHy-00087-00020848-00021056 you
3CP_1iO59oM-00000-00000668-00001072 in this talk this is this is pulled from
3CP_1iO59oM-00001-00001073-00001144 a
3CP_1iO59oM-00002-00001145-00001594 that I've done quite a while ago so I'm
3CP_1iO59oM-00003-00001595-00001839 not going to I'm going to blaze through
3CP_1iO59oM-00004-00001841-00002235 a lot of this you can go find the slides
3CP_1iO59oM-00005-00002236-00002733 online later there's links and or demos
3CP_1iO59oM-00006-00002734-00003046 that you can see and try for yourself or
3CP_1iO59oM-00007-00003047-00003370 have more information on this is only a
3CP_1iO59oM-00008-00003371-00003720 15-minute talk so there's more content
3CP_1iO59oM-00009-00003721-00003906 here than 15 minutes I'm gonna blaze
3CP_1iO59oM-00010-00003907-00004303 through that so yeah past the file
3CP_1iO59oM-00011-00004304-00004483 system validation this is this is
3CP_1iO59oM-00012-00004484-00004933 something that was it came out of an
3CP_1iO59oM-00013-00004934-00005083 assumption for a lot of the container
3CP_1iO59oM-00014-00005084-00005266 images there are things that you can do
3CP_1iO59oM-00015-00005267-00005488 to make image you know make McDowell
3CP_1iO59oM-00016-00005489-00005970 systems read-only and it was always a
3CP_1iO59oM-00017-00005971-00006226 rat hole of a conversation because
3CP_1iO59oM-00018-00006227-00006349 eventually somebody would say well you
3CP_1iO59oM-00019-00006350-00006468 can mount it read-only well what you
3CP_1iO59oM-00020-00006469-00006712 could do this other thing or you might
3CP_1iO59oM-00021-00006713-00006849 have a copy on write file system well
3CP_1iO59oM-00022-00006850-00007089 what if it corrupts what if somebody
3CP_1iO59oM-00023-00007090-00007284 does cat deck override and they start
3CP_1iO59oM-00024-00007286-00007581 going around you and we like like OS
3CP_1iO59oM-00025-00007582-00007752 tree tries to solve certain things in
3CP_1iO59oM-00026-00007753-00007956 read-only ways and a certain point you
3CP_1iO59oM-00027-00007957-00008064 just have to make an assumption that
3CP_1iO59oM-00028-00008065-00008284 it's it's either good enough for our use
3CP_1iO59oM-00029-00008285-00008571 case or if there's like a break glass
3CP_1iO59oM-00030-00008572-00008794 scenario that you can just like wipe the
3CP_1iO59oM-00031-00008795-00008967 filesystem and let the imagery pool
3CP_1iO59oM-00032-00008968-00009380 itself or something like that but how to
3CP_1iO59oM-00033-00009381-00009699 verify that what you have on the file
3CP_1iO59oM-00034-00009700-00009862 system is what you expect to have on the
3CP_1iO59oM-00035-00009863-00010251 file system and so some folks would have
3CP_1iO59oM-00036-00010252-00010416 the converse would end up having the
3CP_1iO59oM-00037-00010417-00010926 conversation of you know DM Verity and
3CP_1iO59oM-00038-00010927-00011041 these other things but they're like
3CP_1iO59oM-00039-00011042-00011385 pretty tailored solutions at the end of
3CP_1iO59oM-00040-00011386-00011514 the day you had to have some kind of a
3CP_1iO59oM-00041-00011515-00011685 way to it's a package
3CP_1iO59oM-00042-00011686-00011923 some way to have content addressability
3CP_1iO59oM-00043-00011924-00012076 when you pushed and pulled those
3CP_1iO59oM-00044-00012077-00012412 packages around dealing with compression
3CP_1iO59oM-00045-00012413-00012783 which is a pain in the ass anyhow all
3CP_1iO59oM-00046-00012784-00013044 these different pieces but still do it
3CP_1iO59oM-00047-00013045-00013263 in the most generic like the most common
3CP_1iO59oM-00048-00013265-00013452 denominator your common denominator
3CP_1iO59oM-00049-00013453-00014217 approach so I think that's a whole you
3CP_1iO59oM-00050-00014218-00014416 know it's crazy when you when you deal
3CP_1iO59oM-00051-00014416-00014524 with these packages
3CP_1iO59oM-00052-00014525-00014671 different packages try and solve this
3CP_1iO59oM-00053-00014672-00014871 and solve this in different ways
3CP_1iO59oM-00054-00014872-00015066 everybody in the world has seen like a
3CP_1iO59oM-00055-00015068-00015288 sums file you download some kind of
3CP_1iO59oM-00056-00015290-00015549 content and as a sums file and you have
3CP_1iO59oM-00057-00015550-00015997 you know md5 back in the day and then
3CP_1iO59oM-00058-00015997-00016297 sha-1 shot-to-shot 256 512 and you have
3CP_1iO59oM-00059-00016297-00016462 to have all these different IDs of
3CP_1iO59oM-00060-00016463-00016672 something depending on what's most
3CP_1iO59oM-00061-00016673-00016840 efficient for your machine to compute or
3CP_1iO59oM-00062-00016841-00017341 what's irrelevant these days and you
3CP_1iO59oM-00063-00017342-00017566 know different formats which odd cpio
3CP_1iO59oM-00064-00017567-00017713 for a little while and it was cool it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00065-00017714-00017902 under a similar POSIX standard as tar
3CP_1iO59oM-00066-00017903-00018160 archives are but neither one of them
3CP_1iO59oM-00067-00018161-00018709 accommodate you know X adders and well
3CP_1iO59oM-00068-00018710-00018886 file capabilities part of Exeter's
3CP_1iO59oM-00069-00018887-00019132 anyhow like long filenames and like just
3CP_1iO59oM-00070-00019133-00019279 terrible stuff they're all they just
3CP_1iO59oM-00071-00019280-00019642 keep recirculating terrible stuff and
3CP_1iO59oM-00072-00019643-00019840 even with container images we're pushing
3CP_1iO59oM-00073-00019841-00020179 around like 500 Meg gigabyte images and
3CP_1iO59oM-00074-00020180-00020392 their tar archives several of them
3CP_1iO59oM-00075-00020393-00020842 together and sometimes it's so mind
3CP_1iO59oM-00076-00020843-00020997 bogglingly stupid like you'll will make
3CP_1iO59oM-00077-00020998-00021454 a you will change the owner of a file
3CP_1iO59oM-00078-00021455-00021727 and it will copy up you know a one gig
3CP_1iO59oM-00079-00021728-00021894 file or something like that like it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00080-00021895-00022450 terrible and so now you have these
3CP_1iO59oM-00081-00022451-00022567 bundles that are getting pushed around
3CP_1iO59oM-00082-00022568-00022722 they have to have some kind of a
3CP_1iO59oM-00083-00022723-00022966 continent address ability like an ID
3CP_1iO59oM-00084-00022967-00023278 that you're pushing and pulling em
3CP_1iO59oM-00085-00023279-00023905 around and for folks in here that have
3CP_1iO59oM-00086-00023906-00024193 who in here has used docker either
3CP_1iO59oM-00087-00024194-00024637 before docker 1.8 or docker 1.10 really
3CP_1iO59oM-00088-00024638-00025002 docker 1.8 folks yeah about half of you
3CP_1iO59oM-00089-00025003-00025336 who knows that the docker ID that you
3CP_1iO59oM-00090-00025337-00025567 had it hasn't changed for a lot of
3CP_1iO59oM-00091-00025568-00025764 people and now they call it digest which
3CP_1iO59oM-00092-00025766-00025995 I'm glad that kind of disambiguated that
3CP_1iO59oM-00093-00025997-00026169 they're two different things but that
3CP_1iO59oM-00094-00026170-00026332 the docker ID from back in the day it
3CP_1iO59oM-00095-00026333-00026695 was a sha-256 number before docker 1a
3CP_1iO59oM-00096-00026695-00026980 was not content addressable there was
3CP_1iO59oM-00097-00026981-00027270 absolutely no part of pushing pulling
3CP_1iO59oM-00098-00027272-00027523 building having any hopes that the ID
3CP_1iO59oM-00099-00027524-00027700 that you got is the same that's on disk
3CP_1iO59oM-00100-00027701-00027864 before docker when a
3CP_1iO59oM-00101-00027866-00028111 was garbage and every single time he
3CP_1iO59oM-00102-00028112-00028275 pushed and pulled the image it mutated
3CP_1iO59oM-00103-00028276-00028573 it was actually a different tar archive
3CP_1iO59oM-00104-00028574-00029070 every single time he pushed it
3CP_1iO59oM-00105-00029072-00029304 so having any kind of like
3CP_1iO59oM-00106-00029305-00029652 infrastructure for signing and assurance
3CP_1iO59oM-00107-00029654-00030154 model was out the window and it's a it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00108-00030155-00030643 a you know and so even further in this
3CP_1iO59oM-00109-00030644-00031069 content address ability is that once
3CP_1iO59oM-00110-00031070-00031356 once once we started getting
3CP_1iO59oM-00111-00031357-00031620 reproducible tar archives in in the
3CP_1iO59oM-00112-00031622-00031780 workflow so that we could have content
3CP_1iO59oM-00113-00031781-00031906 address ability and build something like
3CP_1iO59oM-00114-00031907-00032332 a digest the things that some system
3CP_1iO59oM-00115-00032333-00032530 started choosing was the content
3CP_1iO59oM-00116-00032531-00032836 addressable address of the compressed
3CP_1iO59oM-00117-00032837-00032988 archive
3CP_1iO59oM-00118-00032989-00033358 which was a is a terrible decision like
3CP_1iO59oM-00119-00033359-00033739 if you're ever in this space I have
3CP_1iO59oM-00120-00033740-00034057 ideas but they're terrible ideas that
3CP_1iO59oM-00121-00034058-00034354 always take the content addressable ID
3CP_1iO59oM-00122-00034355-00034675 of the uncompressed piece do yourself
3CP_1iO59oM-00123-00034676-00035035 that service because in that situation
3CP_1iO59oM-00124-00035036-00035281 it was relying on golang at a particular
3CP_1iO59oM-00125-00035282-00035515 compression level and the way that the
3CP_1iO59oM-00126-00035516-00035815 golang does the deflate and inflate mark
3CP_1iO59oM-00127-00035816-00036150 not Merkel
3CP_1iO59oM-00128-00036151-00036502 yeah the Huffman trees Huffman trees the
3CP_1iO59oM-00129-00036503-00037039 cascading trees of the words it was
3CP_1iO59oM-00130-00037040-00037228 consistent to itself that it was
3CP_1iO59oM-00131-00037229-00037699 inconsistent with canoe or some of the
3CP_1iO59oM-00132-00037700-00037894 other ones like there was two or three
3CP_1iO59oM-00133-00037895-00038110 of z lib all three of them were
3CP_1iO59oM-00134-00038111-00038380 inconsistent with each other and then
3CP_1iO59oM-00135-00038381-00038590 often people would make certain types of
3CP_1iO59oM-00136-00038591-00038854 like optimizations like pass especially
3CP_1iO59oM-00137-00038855-00039055 if you were using Z Lib if you passed
3CP_1iO59oM-00138-00039056-00039199 any of the flag parameters to do
3CP_1iO59oM-00139-00039200-00039508 optimizations then it might be that it
3CP_1iO59oM-00140-00039509-00039783 might make your gzipped
3CP_1iO59oM-00141-00039784-00040051 archive inconsistent with itself from
3CP_1iO59oM-00142-00040052-00040210 one compression to the next it would be
3CP_1iO59oM-00143-00040211-00040528 inconsistent and that's not even to say
3CP_1iO59oM-00144-00040529-00040732 like oh we've just we've moved to x cb
3CP_1iO59oM-00145-00040733-00041266 zip LZ lzma whatever it's garbage now
3CP_1iO59oM-00146-00041267-00041735 so it's there's some examples here where
3CP_1iO59oM-00147-00041736-00041987 you can actually see you have to do even
3CP_1iO59oM-00148-00041988-00042155 for gzip from the command line you have
3CP_1iO59oM-00149-00042156-00042413 to do - in because in the gzip header
3CP_1iO59oM-00150-00042414-00042764 it adds epoch so one time to the next it
3CP_1iO59oM-00151-00042765-00042977 would be different but if you do - and
3CP_1iO59oM-00152-00042978-00043226 it doesn't include epoch so you could
3CP_1iO59oM-00153-00043227-00043622 have some consistency within itself real
3CP_1iO59oM-00154-00043623-00043820 real exciting stuff here
3CP_1iO59oM-00155-00043821-00044272 Sealab this is using Ruby but still
3CP_1iO59oM-00156-00044273-00044525 Huffman only you have to add that flag
3CP_1iO59oM-00157-00044526-00044780 otherwise it's inconsistent with itself
3CP_1iO59oM-00158-00044781-00045090 every single time
3CP_1iO59oM-00159-00045091-00045731 go lang is terrible well even even at
3CP_1iO59oM-00160-00045732-00045875 going at some point like we were like
3CP_1iO59oM-00161-00045876-00046049 cool it's consistent to itself well at
3CP_1iO59oM-00162-00046050-00046211 some point they made optimizations for
3CP_1iO59oM-00163-00046212-00046364 like architecture dependent
3CP_1iO59oM-00164-00046365-00046658 optimizations for go and it broke all
3CP_1iO59oM-00165-00046659-00046946 the compression and so every docker
3CP_1iO59oM-00166-00046947-00047156 registry out there that had these you
3CP_1iO59oM-00167-00047157-00047414 know one gig images all that cash was
3CP_1iO59oM-00168-00047415-00047615 invalidated like you'd go to pull an
3CP_1iO59oM-00169-00047616-00047810 image and it would fetch the new image
3CP_1iO59oM-00170-00047811-00048014 checksum it and it got that it got a
3CP_1iO59oM-00171-00048015-00048221 different checksum so all these
3CP_1iO59oM-00172-00048222-00048368 registries were immediately having to
3CP_1iO59oM-00173-00048369-00048770 like rebuild all the images and reflect
3CP_1iO59oM-00174-00048771-00049343 on it was fantastic so verifying at rest
3CP_1iO59oM-00175-00049344-00049589 regardless of like trying to make it
3CP_1iO59oM-00176-00049590-00049763 efficient for whatever your back-end is
3CP_1iO59oM-00177-00049764-00050119 whether you're are syncing files around
3CP_1iO59oM-00178-00050120-00050426 gosh some folks were using like I scuzzy
3CP_1iO59oM-00179-00050427-00050776 mounted over in BD to try and have like
3CP_1iO59oM-00180-00050777-00050990 arrangements but you still have to have
3CP_1iO59oM-00181-00050991-00051289 this content addressable piece as well
3CP_1iO59oM-00182-00051290-00051658 as something like rpm Q capital V how
3CP_1iO59oM-00183-00051659-00052232 many folks ever touch that Dan it tries
3CP_1iO59oM-00184-00052233-00052571 to show that what's on disk is different
3CP_1iO59oM-00185-00052572-00052691 from the RPM that you originally
3CP_1iO59oM-00186-00052691-00052850 installed like has somebody tampered
3CP_1iO59oM-00187-00052851-00053141 with some of the files and so you can
3CP_1iO59oM-00188-00053141-00053266 actually get some kind of an assurance
3CP_1iO59oM-00189-00053267-00053510 model obviously if they're at that level
3CP_1iO59oM-00190-00053511-00053654 anyways they could have just modified
3CP_1iO59oM-00191-00053654-00054140 the RPM database whatever but DM verity
3CP_1iO59oM-00192-00054141-00054350 DM Verity ends up mostly being like an
3CP_1iO59oM-00193-00054351-00054576 Android use case but
3CP_1iO59oM-00194-00054577-00054857 there was hopes that it could melt and
3CP_1iO59oM-00195-00054858-00055046 do these like read-only like with
3CP_1iO59oM-00196-00055047-00055250 absolute certainty that the file system
3CP_1iO59oM-00197-00055251-00055451 is exactly at the state you expected
3CP_1iO59oM-00198-00055452-00055649 there's no corruption there's no rootkit
3CP_1iO59oM-00199-00055650-00056063 whatever there's been some IBM research
3CP_1iO59oM-00200-00056064-00056411 happening forever in the I am a EVM
3CP_1iO59oM-00201-00056412-00056765 world where you can have keys loaded
3CP_1iO59oM-00202-00056766-00056948 into the key you know key cuddle of the
3CP_1iO59oM-00203-00056949-00057338 kernel internal key rings potentially
3CP_1iO59oM-00204-00057339-00057526 have like namespaces with their own keys
3CP_1iO59oM-00205-00057527-00057785 and within that namespace you can only
3CP_1iO59oM-00206-00057786-00058301 see the things that your your unshared
3CP_1iO59oM-00207-00058302-00058487 space can have access to with the keys
3CP_1iO59oM-00208-00058488-00058637 that are loaded for it and even if you
3CP_1iO59oM-00209-00058638-00058910 escaped and got into another namespace
3CP_1iO59oM-00210-00058911-00059092 that you couldn't see those files
3CP_1iO59oM-00211-00059094-00059309 because the kernel wouldn't let you read
3CP_1iO59oM-00212-00059310-00059375 them because they're not in your
3CP_1iO59oM-00213-00059376-00059846 keychain cool we're not there yet it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00214-00059847-00060141 still happening
3CP_1iO59oM-00215-00060142-00060521 so a most passive most generic approach
3CP_1iO59oM-00216-00060522-00060629 at some point when I was trying to
3CP_1iO59oM-00217-00060629-00060841 figure out how could we do this given
3CP_1iO59oM-00218-00060842-00061136 all the file system approaches given all
3CP_1iO59oM-00219-00061137-00061454 the different package format styles was
3CP_1iO59oM-00220-00061454-00061642 something I remember from back in the
3CP_1iO59oM-00221-00061644-00061940 BSD days was M tree and they used it
3CP_1iO59oM-00222-00061941-00062210 largely just for like the file system
3CP_1iO59oM-00223-00062211-00062407 layout piece of like them in their
3CP_1iO59oM-00224-00062408-00062921 source trees and ports so it's in
3CP_1iO59oM-00225-00062922-00063140 FreeBSD OpenBSD stuff like that there is
3CP_1iO59oM-00226-00063141-00063442 a entry port that was done for Linux and
3CP_1iO59oM-00227-00063444-00064135 it's kind of kept up to the the freebsd
3CP_1iO59oM-00228-00064136-00064499 approach neither one of those accounts
3CP_1iO59oM-00229-00064500-00064700 for extended attributes and some of the
3CP_1iO59oM-00230-00064701-00065029 other like some newer checksum i think
3CP_1iO59oM-00231-00065030-00065356 they go to five sha-512 now but Exeter's
3CP_1iO59oM-00232-00065357-00065506 was the biggest thing and even though
3CP_1iO59oM-00233-00065507-00065866 freebsd x' has since added EXT adders
3CP_1iO59oM-00234-00065867-00066125 into their file systems they're not
3CP_1iO59oM-00235-00066126-00066254 using it heavily so they haven't added
3CP_1iO59oM-00236-00066255-00066503 support for it in their M tree those are
3CP_1iO59oM-00237-00066504-00066649 some of the things they own at a tackle
3CP_1iO59oM-00238-00066650-00067153 so at some point I started I set out and
3CP_1iO59oM-00239-00067154-00067693 a lot in going so I wrote a clone of our
3CP_1iO59oM-00240-00067694-00068140 you know a drop in equivalent in golang
3CP_1iO59oM-00241-00068141-00068349 but it added support for a few different
3CP_1iO59oM-00242-00068350-00068868 pieces like extended attributes there
3CP_1iO59oM-00243-00068869-00069057 are things available in the Linux space
3CP_1iO59oM-00244-00069058-00069505 today so if you DNF install BSD BSD tar
3CP_1iO59oM-00245-00069506-00070005 you can actually say tar - - format
3CP_1iO59oM-00246-00070006-00070465 entry - C F you know like you would make
3CP_1iO59oM-00247-00070466-00070743 a file from this tree and the output
3CP_1iO59oM-00248-00070744-00070936 file won't be at our archive but it will
3CP_1iO59oM-00249-00070937-00071576 be a an entry looking output Leonard has
3CP_1iO59oM-00250-00071577-00071901 CA sync which has an entry output so you
3CP_1iO59oM-00251-00071902-00072051 can either do the nem tree of a
3CP_1iO59oM-00252-00072052-00072316 directory which is similar to what going
3CP_1iO59oM-00253-00072317-00072519 tree can just do like an entry output of
3CP_1iO59oM-00254-00072520-00072817 a directory or if you've met an index
3CP_1iO59oM-00255-00072818-00073188 like a CA ID x index you can say give me
3CP_1iO59oM-00256-00073189-00073399 the m tree of this backup that I did
3CP_1iO59oM-00257-00073400-00073755 it's kind of useful and emoji that I've
3CP_1iO59oM-00258-00073756-00073881 mentioned a second ago that can like
3CP_1iO59oM-00259-00073882-00074266 manage container file systems when you
3CP_1iO59oM-00260-00074267-00074584 do an emoji unpack it actually creates
3CP_1iO59oM-00261-00074585-00074838 an EM tree of that of the expected
3CP_1iO59oM-00262-00074839-00075298 output so I've got like two minutes left
3CP_1iO59oM-00263-00075299-00075835 this is the go M tree looking output I
3CP_1iO59oM-00264-00075836-00076056 don't think I included the X debtor's in
3CP_1iO59oM-00265-00076057-00076471 this example but it's the the the new M
3CP_1iO59oM-00266-00076472-00076840 tree output has this notion of sets so
3CP_1iO59oM-00267-00076841-00077122 you can say in the following until I
3CP_1iO59oM-00268-00077123-00077541 unset or until each individual file
3CP_1iO59oM-00269-00077542-00077917 overrides it it expect these to be the
3CP_1iO59oM-00270-00077918-00078286 defaults and so then it will only have
3CP_1iO59oM-00271-00078287-00078681 that key word if it's different than the
3CP_1iO59oM-00272-00078682-00079062 prior and so then it walks through and
3CP_1iO59oM-00273-00079063-00079467 it actually steps through directories so
3CP_1iO59oM-00274-00079468-00079719 those these are children of the bin
3CP_1iO59oM-00275-00079720-00080134 directory and it's got a annotation
3CP_1iO59oM-00276-00080135-00080536 format too like this is actually an
3CP_1iO59oM-00277-00080537-00080793 bracket for the beginning part of test
3CP_1iO59oM-00278-00080794-00081070 the command that's a you know some
3CP_1iO59oM-00279-00081071-00081385 square bracket so it escapes that in its
3CP_1iO59oM-00280-00081386-00082051 own way and so you can see here that
3CP_1iO59oM-00281-00082052-00082252 these these files even though that's on
3CP_1iO59oM-00282-00082253-00082576 disk the this is indicative that it has
3CP_1iO59oM-00283-00082577-00082747 passed through at our archive at some
3CP_1iO59oM-00284-00082748-00082900 point in its life because the
3CP_1iO59oM-00285-00082901-00083080 nanoseconds have been trimmed off thar
3CP_1iO59oM-00286-00083081-00083452 can't support nanoseconds but you can
3CP_1iO59oM-00287-00083453-00083785 get a timestamp of those things and then
3CP_1iO59oM-00288-00083786-00084235 the sha-256 digest or whatever CA sync
3CP_1iO59oM-00289-00084236-00084450 does more of the old-style
3CP_1iO59oM-00290-00084451-00084778 m3 approach where every line has a fully
3CP_1iO59oM-00291-00084779-00085024 qualified path rather than stepping down
3CP_1iO59oM-00292-00085025-00085303 into the children some things are not
3CP_1iO59oM-00293-00085304-00085507 quite as compliant with the old approach
3CP_1iO59oM-00294-00085508-00085753 it's not as much an issue anymore people
3CP_1iO59oM-00295-00085754-00085873 know how to handle some of these
3CP_1iO59oM-00296-00085874-00086131 characters but for the bsd world they
3CP_1iO59oM-00297-00086132-00086323 considered use cases where it might pass
3CP_1iO59oM-00298-00086324-00086473 through a system that can't handle all
3CP_1iO59oM-00299-00086474-00086755 the character sets for god's from those
3CP_1iO59oM-00300-00086756-00087088 reasons anyhow but this is you see this
3CP_1iO59oM-00301-00087089-00087316 whole approach here this file system
3CP_1iO59oM-00302-00087317-00087679 also has passed through tar archives at
3CP_1iO59oM-00303-00087680-00088024 some point leonard introduced this and
3CP_1iO59oM-00304-00088025-00088189 it jammed me up when i first tried it
3CP_1iO59oM-00305-00088190-00088705 out but sha-512 digest was a was a key
3CP_1iO59oM-00306-00088706-00089008 word but doing the sha-512 trimmed to
3CP_1iO59oM-00307-00089009-00089458 the 256 lengths was not a keyword so
3CP_1iO59oM-00308-00089459-00089698 that i added support for that and go in
3CP_1iO59oM-00309-00089699-00090217 free but that's neat enough this is just
3CP_1iO59oM-00310-00090218-00090427 an example of doing scope EO copy like
3CP_1iO59oM-00311-00090428-00090727 i've talked about and my prior talk
3CP_1iO59oM-00312-00090728-00090931 about aaron antonio talked about as well
3CP_1iO59oM-00313-00090932-00091216 doing an emoji unpack of that image that
3CP_1iO59oM-00314-00091217-00091441 it just fetched into a directory called
3CP_1iO59oM-00315-00091442-00091654 busybox bundle and then seeing that
3CP_1iO59oM-00316-00091655-00091939 there is now the the digest of that
3CP_1iO59oM-00317-00091940-00092449 image in free is a file and then you get
3CP_1iO59oM-00318-00092450-00092587 that same output so now you have
3CP_1iO59oM-00319-00092588-00092923 something you can check you you can even
3CP_1iO59oM-00320-00092924-00093192 if the user mutated it they can check
3CP_1iO59oM-00321-00093193-00093517 that out against it later
3CP_1iO59oM-00322-00093518-00093838 I made go industry be able to reproduce
3CP_1iO59oM-00323-00093839-00093949 and
3CP_1iO59oM-00324-00093950-00094171 against our archives not just at rest
3CP_1iO59oM-00325-00094172-00094366 file systems so you could know what
3CP_1iO59oM-00326-00094367-00094528 you're about to validate before it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00327-00094529-00094759 like in flight you might have a workflow
3CP_1iO59oM-00328-00094760-00094999 where you get an archive check the
3CP_1iO59oM-00329-00095000-00095263 signature lay it on disk and then have
3CP_1iO59oM-00330-00095264-00095509 something to check later furnish
3CP_1iO59oM-00331-00095510-00095773 assurance step so there's several more
3CP_1iO59oM-00332-00095774-00096097 examples here you can go through them
3CP_1iO59oM-00333-00096098-00096508 all but Lib Lib archive or BSD tar
3CP_1iO59oM-00334-00096509-00096787 there's so you could do that on most
3CP_1iO59oM-00335-00096788-00097054 Linux systems and it does the old-style
3CP_1iO59oM-00336-00097055-00097197 approach but it doesn't escape
3CP_1iO59oM-00337-00097198-00097735 everything so if you find yourself in
3CP_1iO59oM-00338-00097736-00097921 any kind of an assurance model where you
3CP_1iO59oM-00339-00097922-00098104 this this might be important to you
3CP_1iO59oM-00340-00098105-00098500 these are the kind of artifacts that in
3CP_1iO59oM-00341-00098501-00098656 some of the work that I'm doing I'm
3CP_1iO59oM-00342-00098657-00098824 looking at including these so that you
3CP_1iO59oM-00343-00098825-00099109 could have a sniff check of the contents
3CP_1iO59oM-00344-00099110-00099220 of an image without having to download
3CP_1iO59oM-00345-00099221-00099436 it and running an analyzer first you
3CP_1iO59oM-00346-00099437-00099577 could actually say like this is the
3CP_1iO59oM-00347-00099578-00100051 sha-512 or 256 or 512 256 of the files
3CP_1iO59oM-00348-00100052-00100363 that I know are bad or whatever that you
3CP_1iO59oM-00349-00100364-00100555 could actually sniff check an image like
3CP_1iO59oM-00350-00100556-00100774 do a remote inspect and look for that
3CP_1iO59oM-00351-00100775-00101004 image or get the file system layout
3CP_1iO59oM-00352-00101005-00101242 interpret the file system tree before
3CP_1iO59oM-00353-00101243-00101506 you ever unpack at our archive or
3CP_1iO59oM-00354-00101507-00101764 whatever it might become one day like
3CP_1iO59oM-00355-00101765-00102217 peer to peer the work that I'm doing is
3CP_1iO59oM-00356-00102218-00102550 on this this repo obviously there's
3CP_1iO59oM-00357-00102551-00102742 other things like C async entry and
3CP_1iO59oM-00358-00102743-00102984 otherwise I
3CP_1iO59oM-00359-00102985-00103255 I do encourage to stay in a
3CP_1iO59oM-00360-00103256-00103468 communication loop so that these if
3CP_1iO59oM-00361-00103469-00103668 you're either outputting or in
3CP_1iO59oM-00362-00103669-00103972 interpreting those manifests they are
3CP_1iO59oM-00363-00103973-00104256 compatible like I said I've added
3CP_1iO59oM-00364-00104257-00104457 support and I didn't have a picture up
3CP_1iO59oM-00365-00104458-00104626 there but for extended attributes so
3CP_1iO59oM-00366-00104627-00104914 that you could have selinux context or
3CP_1iO59oM-00367-00104915-00105100 whatever preserved on the files or
3CP_1iO59oM-00368-00105101-00105442 otherwise because obviously if you set a
3CP_1iO59oM-00369-00105443-00105613 file capability that makes a difference
3CP_1iO59oM-00370-00105614-00105876 if you've added caps this admin or
3CP_1iO59oM-00371-00105877-00106294 whatever to like user bin time that's a
3CP_1iO59oM-00372-00106295-00106653 problem so that needs to fail a check
3CP_1iO59oM-00373-00106654-00107047 yeah and so then the vet stalks does
3CP_1iO59oM-00374-00107048-00107242 these slides are up there as well you
3CP_1iO59oM-00375-00107243-00107320 can see the
3CP_1iO59oM-00376-00107321-00107616 examples and try them out later I don't
3CP_1iO59oM-00377-00107617-00107883 do we have time for talks any questions
3CP_1iO59oM-00378-00107884-00108838 so any questions from the audience have
3CP_1iO59oM-00379-00108839-00109126 you yeah it's on yeah
3CP_1iO59oM-00380-00109127-00109507 have you ever looked at FS severity FS
3CP_1iO59oM-00381-00109508-00109696 Verdean it's like the inverter you were
3CP_1iO59oM-00382-00109697-00109975 on the foul level really yeah it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00383-00109976-00110043 pretty cool
3CP_1iO59oM-00384-00110044-00110303 it's like a work in progress from
3CP_1iO59oM-00385-00110304-00110599 what's-his-name that is it Ted doing it
3CP_1iO59oM-00386-00110600-00110865 and also I have not a basic header I had
3CP_1iO59oM-00387-00110866-00111039 only looked at the invariant out that
3CP_1iO59oM-00388-00111040-00111213 it's a narrow use case basically you
3CP_1iO59oM-00389-00111214-00111520 write down the content of a file and
3CP_1iO59oM-00390-00111521-00111735 then you do a Merkle tree hash on it and
3CP_1iO59oM-00391-00111736-00111919 you had that at the end of the tree and
3CP_1iO59oM-00392-00111920-00112239 then you call like in file control thing
3CP_1iO59oM-00393-00112240-00112458 on this thing that seals the file makes
3CP_1iO59oM-00394-00112459-00112761 it read-only and hides the Merkle tree
3CP_1iO59oM-00395-00112763-00113136 from the user space is it like in like
3CP_1iO59oM-00396-00113138-00113244 an X header
3CP_1iO59oM-00397-00113245-00113508 no it's in the file so we write the
3CP_1iO59oM-00398-00113509-00113701 entire file plus the Merkle tree and
3CP_1iO59oM-00399-00113702-00114001 then you seal it and then it looks from
3CP_1iO59oM-00400-00114002-00114234 user space F as if the merkel v isn't
3CP_1iO59oM-00401-00114235-00114496 there no but it verifies it every time
3CP_1iO59oM-00402-00114497-00114708 you access the thing really it's pretty
3CP_1iO59oM-00403-00114709-00114883 cool yeah I'll take a look at this it's
3CP_1iO59oM-00404-00114883-00115021 like work in progress I haven't tried it
3CP_1iO59oM-00405-00115022-00115573 but sure it seems even oh I'd be
3CP_1iO59oM-00406-00115574-00115825 interested if it could help and do some
3CP_1iO59oM-00407-00115826-00115969 kind of attestation or if they'd be like
3CP_1iO59oM-00408-00115970-00116206 a I'll call back cycle everybody let's
3CP_1iO59oM-00409-00116207-00116944 go cool nah yeah Luz does that have any
3CP_1iO59oM-00410-00116945-00117189 relationship to the contents of the
3CP_1iO59oM-00411-00117190-00117594 manifest in a OCI image spec this is
3CP_1iO59oM-00412-00117595-00117933 completely independent but I very much
3CP_1iO59oM-00413-00117934-00118093 think that it would be something like an
3CP_1iO59oM-00414-00118094-00118426 additional manifest or a mime type
3CP_1iO59oM-00415-00118427-00118686 descriptor that would just be shoved in
3CP_1iO59oM-00416-00118688-00118981 so like you'd build the image and before
3CP_1iO59oM-00417-00118982-00119109 you'd push it at a time where you could
3CP_1iO59oM-00418-00119110-00119446 sign it that you could append some kind
3CP_1iO59oM-00419-00119447-00119626 of artifact like this in it so that when
3CP_1iO59oM-00420-00119627-00119872 you got to push it pull an image later
3CP_1iO59oM-00421-00119873-00120031 that you would see it in the list of
3CP_1iO59oM-00422-00120032-00120322 mime types and you could fetch the first
3CP_1iO59oM-00423-00120323-00120499 piece like what the scope yo remote
3CP_1iO59oM-00424-00120500-00120708 inspect does you just get like the first
3CP_1iO59oM-00425-00120709-00120939 bit of Jason and then you if your tool
3CP_1iO59oM-00426-00120940-00121110 knows that that mime type like oh I know
3CP_1iO59oM-00427-00121111-00121231 how to read that that you could then
3CP_1iO59oM-00428-00121232-00121533 fetch that and get a better idea of the
3CP_1iO59oM-00429-00121534-00121768 contents of the image and kind of yay or
3CP_1iO59oM-00430-00121769-00122047 nay yourself on what you do next that's
3CP_1iO59oM-00431-00122048-00122613 that's that's a hope active hope all
3CP_1iO59oM-00432-00122614-00122763 right I think we have a break next so
3CP_1iO59oM-00433-00122764-00122984 thank you everybody
3CP_1iO59oM-00434-00122985-00123476 [Applause]
3DzI-el_ojg-00000-00000856-00001550 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00001-00001551-00001663 i've been thinking
3DzI-el_ojg-00002-00001664-00001879 lately it's just me against the world
3DzI-el_ojg-00003-00001880-00002039 round and round i'm caught up in this
3DzI-el_ojg-00004-00002039-00002255 world trying to dig and trying to burrow
3DzI-el_ojg-00005-00002256-00002479 pressure turn the stone into a pearl
3DzI-el_ojg-00006-00002480-00002631 lessons that i learned weren't always
3DzI-el_ojg-00007-00002632-00002863 thorough sugar coated like a churro
3DzI-el_ojg-00008-00002864-00003118 now i'm really out here on my own now my
3DzI-el_ojg-00009-00003119-00003295 homies acting like i are i'm done
3DzI-el_ojg-00010-00003296-00003463 extending out my arm
3DzI-el_ojg-00011-00003464-00003703 made a lot of money from my poems been
3DzI-el_ojg-00012-00003704-00003911 around and now they say i'm on i can
3DzI-el_ojg-00013-00003911-00004079 finally say i'm up now
3DzI-el_ojg-00014-00004079-00004438 i'm up now 20 000 on a bus down a bus
3DzI-el_ojg-00015-00004439-00005189 down i'm on my way up going up now up
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3DzI-el_ojg-00017-00005684-00006086 now
3DzI-el_ojg-00018-00006087-00008089 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00019-00008090-00009332 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00020-00009333-00010410 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00021-00010411-00011287 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00022-00011288-00011638 i'm up now 20 000 on a bus down a bus
3DzI-el_ojg-00023-00011639-00012683 down i'm on my way up going up now up
3DzI-el_ojg-00024-00012684-00012849 now
3DzI-el_ojg-00025-00012850-00014063 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00026-00014063-00014618 i'm on my
3DzI-el_ojg-00027-00014619-00015247 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00028-00015247-00015483 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00029-00015484-00015858 touchdown
3DzI-el_ojg-00030-00015859-00017189 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00031-00017190-00019567 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00032-00019568-00021083 [Music]
3DzI-el_ojg-00033-00021084-00021353 busy
3DzI-el_ojg-00034-00021354-00021935 [Music]
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3FFLR5TkmRE-00001-00001349-00002449 [Music]
3FFLR5TkmRE-00002-00002450-00003461 little cubby would you collect aku-aku
3FFLR5TkmRE-00003-00003463-00004281 [Music]
3FFLR5TkmRE-00004-00004282-00006140 [Music]
3Mfcnll6PE4-00000-00000089-00000518 hi there this is Marlena and I would
3Mfcnll6PE4-00001-00000519-00000932 like to bring for today's message for
3Mfcnll6PE4-00002-00000933-00001373 our cosmic connections this is a general
3Mfcnll6PE4-00003-00001374-00001868 reading and it may or may not resonate
3Mfcnll6PE4-00004-00001869-00002420 fully with you but parts of it will the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00005-00002421-00002917 first angel card that was drawn today
3Mfcnll6PE4-00006-00002918-00003436 was truth so what is coming forth for
3Mfcnll6PE4-00007-00003438-00003820 you today is you are about to receive
3Mfcnll6PE4-00008-00003821-00004297 some kind of truth about something that
3Mfcnll6PE4-00009-00004298-00004788 you really need to know okay or you been
3Mfcnll6PE4-00010-00004789-00005056 wondering about so that truth is going
3Mfcnll6PE4-00011-00005057-00005506 to be revealed to you in some sort of
3Mfcnll6PE4-00012-00005507-00005938 way so be looking out for signs for that
3Mfcnll6PE4-00013-00005939-00006352 to come forward to you always to keep
3Mfcnll6PE4-00014-00006353-00006683 your eyes and ears open for the message
3Mfcnll6PE4-00015-00006684-00007145 it may come in a dream as well so keep a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00016-00007145-00007542 note of your thoughts and your dreams
3Mfcnll6PE4-00017-00007543-00007849 especially during this time right now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00018-00007850-00008164 that we are going you know through all
3Mfcnll6PE4-00019-00008165-00008414 together we're all together in this oh
3Mfcnll6PE4-00020-00008415-00008674 and it's going to bring you a strength
3Mfcnll6PE4-00021-00008675-00008989 that you really really need it right now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00022-00008990-00009535 because you may feel rundown or weak or
3Mfcnll6PE4-00023-00009536-00009910 drained because you've been focused on
3Mfcnll6PE4-00024-00009911-00010360 you know everything that's going on and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00025-00010361-00010751 wondering what you're supposed to do are
3Mfcnll6PE4-00026-00010752-00011060 you safe are you going to be okay
3Mfcnll6PE4-00027-00011061-00011356 are your loved ones okay do you have
3Mfcnll6PE4-00028-00011357-00011684 enough is that something else going to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00029-00011685-00012092 happen right so that truth is going to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00030-00012093-00012359 be revealed to you so there's nothing to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00031-00012360-00012646 worry about so gather your strength from
3Mfcnll6PE4-00032-00012647-00012991 that right now from that message and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00033-00012991-00013253 understand that no matter what we're
3Mfcnll6PE4-00034-00013254-00013411 going through right now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00035-00013412-00013877 we were we were um you know empowered to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00036-00013878-00014169 do it okay we're on the planet right now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00037-00014170-00014686 because we're all here to make a you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00038-00014687-00015071 know like a beautiful experience for
3Mfcnll6PE4-00039-00015072-00015404 other people to share to help using our
3Mfcnll6PE4-00040-00015405-00015854 gifts and talents even when it doesn't
3Mfcnll6PE4-00041-00015855-00016007 seem like we have the strength to even
3Mfcnll6PE4-00042-00016008-00016318 help anybody else we'll take a brief
3Mfcnll6PE4-00043-00016319-00016682 rest a nap you know and rejuvenate
3Mfcnll6PE4-00044-00016683-00017030 ourselves and then come back and start
3Mfcnll6PE4-00045-00017031-00017494 over again okay drink a lot of water you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00046-00017495-00017767 can add some lemon into it it will
3Mfcnll6PE4-00047-00017768-00018239 cleanse it your body and you know boost
3Mfcnll6PE4-00048-00018240-00018414 up your immune system
3Mfcnll6PE4-00049-00018415-00018739 lemon is great too
3Mfcnll6PE4-00050-00018740-00018986 also basically settle your stomach
3Mfcnll6PE4-00051-00018987-00019558 sometimes with some ginger chamomile tea
3Mfcnll6PE4-00052-00019559-00019864 is coming up for somebody here that's
3Mfcnll6PE4-00053-00019865-00020055 listening
3Mfcnll6PE4-00054-00020056-00020338 soothing you know so if you've been
3Mfcnll6PE4-00055-00020339-00020689 anxious you know get some chamomile tea
3Mfcnll6PE4-00056-00020690-00021085 and it's also believe it or not if you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00057-00021086-00021410 take the tea bag and squeeze it out
3Mfcnll6PE4-00058-00021411-00021719 pretty good and you can soothe and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00059-00021720-00021947 comfort your eyes because you know a lot
3Mfcnll6PE4-00060-00021948-00022247 of people are having allergies right now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00061-00022248-00022493 even if you know you're in your home you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00062-00022494-00022811 can still have allergies from the pollen
3Mfcnll6PE4-00063-00022812-00023047 and things in the air if you're in the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00064-00023048-00023500 springtime energy right now which I am
3Mfcnll6PE4-00065-00023501-00024055 and so you know I am utilizing a lot of
3Mfcnll6PE4-00066-00024056-00024407 different things to see what is clearing
3Mfcnll6PE4-00067-00024408-00024847 it up and so you know I'm sharing all
3Mfcnll6PE4-00068-00024848-00025153 this with you today because somebody
3Mfcnll6PE4-00069-00025154-00025385 needed to hear it it may not resonate
3Mfcnll6PE4-00070-00025386-00025600 with you you know you might not even
3Mfcnll6PE4-00071-00025601-00025802 have an allergy you might not be
3Mfcnll6PE4-00072-00025802-00026089 stressed at all you might be totally you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00073-00026091-00026227 know geared up and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00074-00026227-00026508 and that's great keep it up you know but
3Mfcnll6PE4-00075-00026510-00026866 for those that are rundown and stressed
3Mfcnll6PE4-00076-00026867-00027217 out you know a good message for you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00077-00027218-00027727 right and have patience you know what
3Mfcnll6PE4-00078-00027727-00028099 the process um the angels are saying you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00079-00028100-00028348 know be patient with one another
3Mfcnll6PE4-00080-00028349-00028632 especially now when you're quarantine
3Mfcnll6PE4-00081-00028633-00029107 and and keeping safe as possible you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00082-00029108-00029368 will have peace coming to you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00083-00029369-00029713 all right the Angels will always comfort
3Mfcnll6PE4-00084-00029714-00030043 us and bring us peace because they come
3Mfcnll6PE4-00085-00030044-00030469 from you know heaven another dimension
3Mfcnll6PE4-00086-00030470-00030976 that doesn't have the emotions like we
3Mfcnll6PE4-00087-00030977-00031174 have down here on this planet
3Mfcnll6PE4-00088-00031175-00031786 and I did notice when I went out you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00089-00031787-00032064 know to the store quick earlier
3Mfcnll6PE4-00090-00032066-00032427 and um you know ice at my car afterward
3Mfcnll6PE4-00091-00032429-00032731 just to you know sit in the car and be
3Mfcnll6PE4-00092-00032732-00032893 out you know what I'm saying it feels
3Mfcnll6PE4-00093-00032894-00033118 good to be out you don't have to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00094-00033119-00033487 quarantine yourself in your house 24/7
3Mfcnll6PE4-00095-00033488-00033835 you know make sure you start your cars
3Mfcnll6PE4-00096-00033836-00034290 as well during this time and you know
3Mfcnll6PE4-00097-00034291-00034456 keep the windows closed and take a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00098-00034457-00034702 little ride around you know you don't
3Mfcnll6PE4-00099-00034703-00035143 have to sit down all day you know get a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00100-00035144-00035655 little exercise get out there looking at
3Mfcnll6PE4-00101-00035656-00036094 nature in one way or another right and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00102-00036095-00036379 that's a that's a good thing to get away
3Mfcnll6PE4-00103-00036380-00036724 from the eight walls that are just you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00104-00036725-00036958 know staring at us and we're staring at
3Mfcnll6PE4-00105-00036959-00037177 them saying what are we going to do so
3Mfcnll6PE4-00106-00037178-00037627 what we're going to do is release right
3Mfcnll6PE4-00107-00037628-00037999 now any negative emotions or feelings
3Mfcnll6PE4-00108-00038000-00038221 we're having right now we're going to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00109-00038222-00038605 release and let them go okay to your
3Mfcnll6PE4-00110-00038606-00038956 best of your ability all right it starts
3Mfcnll6PE4-00111-00038957-00039454 in your head and when I got back into my
3Mfcnll6PE4-00112-00039455-00039562 home
3Mfcnll6PE4-00113-00039563-00039901 about 20 minutes later I felt an energy
3Mfcnll6PE4-00114-00039902-00040239 of like um it wasn't mine it was like a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00115-00040240-00040591 collective you know like the energy from
3Mfcnll6PE4-00116-00040592-00041011 the people um that were in the store you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00117-00041012-00041146 know all combined
3Mfcnll6PE4-00118-00041147-00041497 I could feel it when I got home right
3Mfcnll6PE4-00119-00041498-00041938 and I cleared that right but a lot of
3Mfcnll6PE4-00120-00041939-00042232 people don't understand it that is not
3Mfcnll6PE4-00121-00042233-00042697 theirs you know it might be hanging
3Mfcnll6PE4-00122-00042698-00043128 around the neighborhood because people
3Mfcnll6PE4-00123-00043129-00043470 you know all are having these similar
3Mfcnll6PE4-00124-00043471-00043876 thoughts and so it becomes like a big
3Mfcnll6PE4-00125-00043877-00044179 group of conscious beliefs or conscious
3Mfcnll6PE4-00126-00044180-00044524 thoughts or whatever going on and it
3Mfcnll6PE4-00127-00044525-00044899 kind of goes through the air channels or
3Mfcnll6PE4-00128-00044900-00045091 the thought patterns or thought waves
3Mfcnll6PE4-00129-00045092-00045322 whatever you want to call it collective
3Mfcnll6PE4-00130-00045323-00045448 consciousness
3Mfcnll6PE4-00131-00045449-00046171 um and you may not know how to get rid
3Mfcnll6PE4-00132-00046172-00046690 of it so you can relax so what I do is I
3Mfcnll6PE4-00133-00046691-00047020 um you know basically acknowledge that
3Mfcnll6PE4-00134-00047021-00047299 it's there and then say this is not mine
3Mfcnll6PE4-00135-00047300-00047695 you know these are not my thoughts and I
3Mfcnll6PE4-00136-00047696-00048183 begin to you know move the energy in
3Mfcnll6PE4-00137-00048184-00048733 different ways so you all have a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00138-00048734-00048967 different way of clearing your mind
3Mfcnll6PE4-00139-00048968-00049470 right so I can play music number one and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00140-00049471-00049852 upbeat music it clears it in a few
3Mfcnll6PE4-00141-00049853-00050170 minutes because your body starts to have
3Mfcnll6PE4-00142-00050171-00050395 a different rhythm your mind is more
3Mfcnll6PE4-00143-00050396-00050949 focused on the beat and the words okay
3Mfcnll6PE4-00144-00050950-00051283 another thing you can do is stand up in
3Mfcnll6PE4-00145-00051284-00051591 the middle of the room and you know put
3Mfcnll6PE4-00146-00051592-00051933 your feet about shoulder-width apart and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00147-00051934-00052407 then take your arms and bring them up in
3Mfcnll6PE4-00148-00052408-00052782 the air and all around your entire body
3Mfcnll6PE4-00149-00052783-00052971 all right
3Mfcnll6PE4-00150-00052972-00053304 and you can basically say rejuvenate me
3Mfcnll6PE4-00151-00053304-00053651 right clear this energy and rejuvenate
3Mfcnll6PE4-00152-00053652-00054009 me and I also will do that same process
3Mfcnll6PE4-00153-00054010-00054390 and pull up my energy from the floor up
3Mfcnll6PE4-00154-00054391-00054866 and you know just pulling up earth
3Mfcnll6PE4-00155-00054867-00055181 energy through my being and you could do
3Mfcnll6PE4-00156-00055182-00055505 that as well whatever it takes for you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00157-00055506-00055712 some of you do yoga some of you do
3Mfcnll6PE4-00158-00055713-00056046 exercising some of you are creative some
3Mfcnll6PE4-00159-00056047-00056465 of you can be doing household cleaning
3Mfcnll6PE4-00160-00056466-00056893 rearranging you know decluttering
3Mfcnll6PE4-00161-00056894-00057355 staying basically in a high vibrational
3Mfcnll6PE4-00162-00057356-00057696 mindset is good so we're going to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00163-00057697-00058059 release right now all collective
3Mfcnll6PE4-00164-00058060-00058599 consciousness energy thoughts vibrations
3Mfcnll6PE4-00165-00058600-00058931 patterns that are negatively affecting
3Mfcnll6PE4-00166-00058932-00059253 us from the airwaves okay it's coming
3Mfcnll6PE4-00167-00059254-00059501 through the airwaves right now like
3Mfcnll6PE4-00168-00059502-00059980 through TV media internet emails
3Mfcnll6PE4-00169-00059981-00060297 constant bombardment of emails what
3Mfcnll6PE4-00170-00060298-00060690 message is about this thing you know so
3Mfcnll6PE4-00171-00060691-00061104 let's just like put our hand you know on
3Mfcnll6PE4-00172-00061104-00061422 our heart area on your heart space right
3Mfcnll6PE4-00173-00061423-00061799 now and just do a gentle tapping do a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00174-00061800-00062117 gentle tapping right there very gentle
3Mfcnll6PE4-00175-00062118-00062426 and as you're doing that put your tongue
3Mfcnll6PE4-00176-00062427-00062954 at the roof of your mouth and balance so
3Mfcnll6PE4-00177-00062955-00063123 what's going to happen when you do this
3Mfcnll6PE4-00178-00063124-00063392 is you are telling your heart your
3Mfcnll6PE4-00179-00063393-00063755 emotions to balance left and right brain
3Mfcnll6PE4-00180-00063756-00064104 balances when you put your tongue at the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00181-00064104-00064480 roof of your mouth so do that now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00182-00064481-00064809 rebalance the heart energy now rebalance
3Mfcnll6PE4-00183-00064810-00065161 the emotional state of being rebalance
3Mfcnll6PE4-00184-00065162-00065525 left to right brain male and female
3Mfcnll6PE4-00185-00065526-00066134 energy rebalance my thoughts rebalance
3Mfcnll6PE4-00186-00066135-00066840 no Whitlow he'll wit peace know what
3Mfcnll6PE4-00187-00066841-00067371 trust and truth right now but what
3Mfcnll6PE4-00188-00067372-00068052 strength everything else dissolve and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00189-00068053-00068250 disintegrate you're not mine
3Mfcnll6PE4-00190-00068251-00068937 I love myself I am loved I am safe it is
3Mfcnll6PE4-00191-00068938-00069083 well with me
3Mfcnll6PE4-00192-00069084-00069953 it is well with me it is well with me
3Mfcnll6PE4-00193-00069954-00070629 breathe out and relax and now the next
3Mfcnll6PE4-00194-00070630-00071055 two cards that came up were creativity
3Mfcnll6PE4-00195-00071056-00071718 and spontaneity so we are being led to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00196-00071719-00072210 be more creative okay and spontaneous so
3Mfcnll6PE4-00197-00072211-00072546 do things differently change it up a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00198-00072547-00072896 little bit alright notice your patterns
3Mfcnll6PE4-00199-00072897-00073179 right now you really can notice what
3Mfcnll6PE4-00200-00073180-00073356 you're doing what you do every single
3Mfcnll6PE4-00201-00073357-00073797 day it is a pattern right so if you're
3Mfcnll6PE4-00202-00073798-00074123 feeling stuck check out your patterns
3Mfcnll6PE4-00203-00074124-00074499 right and your thoughts alright that are
3Mfcnll6PE4-00204-00074500-00074784 keeping you like feeling stuck all right
3Mfcnll6PE4-00205-00074785-00075087 or getting upset with yourself or with
3Mfcnll6PE4-00206-00075088-00075560 others okay um amp up some creativity
3Mfcnll6PE4-00207-00075561-00075900 alright be spontaneous if you see the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00208-00075901-00076289 five flowers on the screen five is for
3Mfcnll6PE4-00209-00076290-00076716 energy flow movement happiness like a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00210-00076717-00077148 party energy and excitement energy so I
3Mfcnll6PE4-00211-00077149-00077618 put them there for you know being
3Mfcnll6PE4-00212-00077619-00078024 spontaneous so focus on them five
3Mfcnll6PE4-00213-00078025-00078384 flowers for just a second because there
3Mfcnll6PE4-00214-00078385-00078612 is water energy there with the blue
3Mfcnll6PE4-00215-00078613-00079163 right some earth energy of course a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00216-00079164-00079513 little bit of metal
3Mfcnll6PE4-00217-00079514-00080268 all right and joy yellow and we're just
3Mfcnll6PE4-00218-00080269-00080501 gonna focus on that energy right now and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00219-00080502-00081050 draw that energy in draw the energy into
3Mfcnll6PE4-00220-00081051-00081468 your body right now balancing all the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00221-00081469-00082363 elements in your body and trusting
3Mfcnll6PE4-00222-00082364-00082761 trusting is coming up big time for a lot
3Mfcnll6PE4-00223-00082762-00083229 of people today and our big word today
3Mfcnll6PE4-00224-00083230-00083613 is beauty okay beauty
3Mfcnll6PE4-00225-00083614-00083993 find something beautiful in your
3Mfcnll6PE4-00226-00083994-00084810 environment okay and focus on that find
3Mfcnll6PE4-00227-00084811-00085175 something that is beautiful about
3Mfcnll6PE4-00228-00085176-00085710 yourself find something that is
3Mfcnll6PE4-00229-00085711-00086163 beautiful about others in your life find
3Mfcnll6PE4-00230-00086164-00086625 something beautiful to do find something
3Mfcnll6PE4-00231-00086626-00087087 beautiful about your life and focus on
3Mfcnll6PE4-00232-00087088-00087506 that that is a big message for today um
3Mfcnll6PE4-00233-00087507-00087963 you know if you feel like it post me a
3Mfcnll6PE4-00234-00087964-00088221 message under the video and let me know
3Mfcnll6PE4-00235-00088222-00088665 how these are helping you you know don't
3Mfcnll6PE4-00236-00088666-00089103 be shy now I would love to hear from you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00237-00089104-00089403 and it may help somebody else that you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00238-00089404-00089640 know loves to read comments under videos
3Mfcnll6PE4-00239-00089641-00089892 make sure they're positive now we're
3Mfcnll6PE4-00240-00089893-00090210 looking for high vibrational people to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00241-00090211-00090431 come along and join us for the ride hear
3Mfcnll6PE4-00242-00090432-00090672 the angels and I in our cosmic
3Mfcnll6PE4-00243-00090673-00091041 connection we will be having some live
3Mfcnll6PE4-00244-00091042-00091356 upcoming calls that will be underneath
3Mfcnll6PE4-00245-00091357-00091706 the videos in the description box I hope
3Mfcnll6PE4-00246-00091707-00091860 you can make the live calls because
3Mfcnll6PE4-00247-00091861-00092156 we're really going to be a you know high
3Mfcnll6PE4-00248-00092157-00092400 vibrational group of beings coming
3Mfcnll6PE4-00249-00092401-00092719 together and if you need to get some
3Mfcnll6PE4-00250-00092720-00092992 for you know it's that time to be on the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00251-00092993-00093190 line with your hand raised and we're
3Mfcnll6PE4-00252-00093191-00093493 ready to go okay so look for that
3Mfcnll6PE4-00253-00093494-00093726 underneath the video if you haven't
3Mfcnll6PE4-00254-00093727-00093967 subscribed to the channel please do that
3Mfcnll6PE4-00255-00093968-00094420 and stay tuned pretty much everyday here
3Mfcnll6PE4-00256-00094421-00094627 to this channel I'm going to do my best
3Mfcnll6PE4-00257-00094628-00095010 to continue posting these short little
3Mfcnll6PE4-00258-00095011-00095482 you know angel readings for the day and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00259-00095483-00095718 we're going to get through this thing
3Mfcnll6PE4-00260-00095719-00095998 you know all together we're going to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00261-00095999-00096427 join together our energy our thoughts of
3Mfcnll6PE4-00262-00096428-00096769 love and compassion and health and peace
3Mfcnll6PE4-00263-00096770-00097141 okay and bringing forth some prosperity
3Mfcnll6PE4-00264-00097142-00097345 and abundance okay
3Mfcnll6PE4-00265-00097346-00097894 so we are here okay to bring you the
3Mfcnll6PE4-00266-00097895-00098179 truth to bring you light to bring you
3Mfcnll6PE4-00267-00098180-00098527 some joy to bring you some you know
3Mfcnll6PE4-00268-00098528-00098860 energy that you needed a boost in so
3Mfcnll6PE4-00269-00098861-00099142 today was for clearing okay
3Mfcnll6PE4-00270-00099143-00099451 collective consciousness energy and if
3Mfcnll6PE4-00271-00099452-00099727 you need it again just come back because
3Mfcnll6PE4-00272-00099728-00099991 it's continually flowing through this
3Mfcnll6PE4-00273-00099992-00100315 you know video and go watch the other
3Mfcnll6PE4-00274-00100316-00100573 ones and enjoy them and then let me know
3Mfcnll6PE4-00275-00100574-00100807 how you're doing okay I'd really like to
3Mfcnll6PE4-00276-00100808-00101086 connect with you thank you so much and
3Mfcnll6PE4-00277-00101087-00101514 have an awesome day I know you will now
3Mfcnll6PE4-00278-00101515-00101815 blessings
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00000-00000003-00000196 human beings are works in progress that
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00001-00000197-00000407 mistakenly think they're finished the
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00002-00000408-00000605 person you are right now is as transient
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00003-00000606-00000841 as fleeting and as temporary as all the
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00004-00000842-00001016 people you've ever been the one constant
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00005-00001017-00001327 in our lives has changed Daniel Gilbert
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00006-00001328-00004002 [Music]
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00007-00004003-00004040 [Applause]
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00008-00004042-00006486 [Music]
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00009-00006487-00006660 so a couple months ago I was scrolling
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00010-00006661-00006873 through my Twitter feed and I stumbled
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00011-00006875-00007069 across this one tweet and I really can't
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00012-00007070-00007167 wait to get my own little studio
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00013-00007168-00007345 apartment and buy a bunch of bookshelves
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00014-00007345-00007533 and store all my books alphabetically
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00015-00007534-00007792 now on the surface this is a pretty
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00016-00007793-00008026 shallow tweet however when I read it it
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00017-00008027-00008313 made me feel really strange when I first
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00018-00008314-00008460 made this tweet it was October of last
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00019-00008461-00008881 year and now I'm sitting here filming
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00020-00008882-00009208 this and it's surreal to believe that a
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00021-00009209-00009445 little over a year later I'm living in
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00022-00009446-00009603 my own little studio apartment with
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00023-00009604-00009846 bookshelves and lots of books it's
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00024-00009847-00010051 absolutely mind-boggling to realize just
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00025-00010052-00010314 how much change I've been through since
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00026-00010315-00010558 moving to Ottawa this time of my life
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00027-00010559-00010680 has arguably been the most
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00028-00010681-00010852 transformative period I've experienced
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00029-00010853-00011104 thus far and it's gonna be thinking how
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00030-00011105-00011299 do you other people namely students
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00031-00011300-00011617 perceive change
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00032-00011618-00011834 obviously I think that change is
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00033-00011835-00012101 something that we have to go through in
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00034-00012102-00012383 life to be ordered in order to just
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00035-00012384-00012659 continue a new bond in society but I
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00036-00012660-00012971 think that for me the biggest change in
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00037-00012972-00013196 my life is probably university because
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00038-00013197-00013475 I'm lucky not to have had huge things
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00039-00013476-00013808 happen in my life that impacted me but I
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00040-00013809-00013976 think that university would be the
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00041-00013977-00014237 biggest one and jumping in from high
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00042-00014238-00014476 school to university was very big and
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00043-00014477-00014786 I'm I guess I could say I'm not afraid
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00044-00014787-00015212 of change change just happens as you go
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00045-00015213-00015613 along in life but you know what you
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00046-00015615-00015847 realized that you need change what
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00047-00015849-00018096 everything else fails
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00048-00018097-00018288 do you want to make change like I feel
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00049-00018289-00018477 like even if I don't intentionally want
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00050-00018478-00018630 to you still are going to
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00051-00018631-00018942 I feel like anticipated change is the
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00052-00018943-00019224 change that you want me that's true but
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00053-00019225-00019393 the change
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00054-00019394-00019793 just come across on a regular day it's
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00055-00019794-00019933 change that you don't want to have
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00056-00019934-00020180 physic I'm not afraid of change but it's
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00057-00020181-00020285 like something was to change
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00058-00020286-00020525 unexpectedly that I didn't want it to be
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00059-00020526-00021503 given annoy me
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00060-00021504-00022294 knowing or watching
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00061-00022295-00022513 a lot of what we talk about in school I
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00062-00022514-00022713 was like don't
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00063-00022714-00023161 we're like class like don't tell them
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00064-00023162-00023353 what we're doing every morning or like
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00065-00023354-00023472 at least week in advance
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00066-00023473-00023749 I'm like sitting in an actual school and
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00067-00023750-00024067 today versus have like language and we
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00068-00024068-00024276 did four periods of study
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00069-00024277-00025146 the kids off that's real life
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00070-00025147-00025374 I also think I just figured out a way to
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00071-00025375-00025608 put it on to proportion in a school
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00072-00025608-00025820 sense because we learned a lot about how
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00073-00025822-00026052 transitions are really important in a
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00074-00026052-00026274 classroom and I think transitions are
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00075-00026275-00026477 really important life to quick changes
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00076-00026479-00026697 are not something that you overcome
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00077-00026698-00027020 easily but when you transition into
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00078-00027022-00027345 let's say a new person year to year or
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00079-00027345-00027468 like the person when we were at the
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00080-00027469-00027639 beginning of university compared to now
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00081-00027639-00027807 I feel like that was a change that
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00082-00027808-00028035 transitions throughout the time and so
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00083-00028036-00028314 that you can overcome slowly as opposed
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00084-00028314-00028527 to all other words I actually think a
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00085-00028527-00028731 lot of change like individually whether
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00086-00028732-00028887 it's like your personality or your
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00087-00028888-00029033 career is I think that you don't
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00088-00029035-00029388 actually notice like you wake up one
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00089-00029389-00029544 morning and you're like oh my gosh I
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00090-00029545-00029772 used to be totally different like they
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00091-00029773-00029976 should not care about this is it needs
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00092-00029977-00030410 to keep about something else
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00093-00030411-00030637 I don't think
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00094-00030638-00030845 I wouldn't look at myself like oh man on
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00095-00030845-00032132 Monday I was in her Monday October I was
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00096-00032133-00032292 going to go back and be further - like
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00097-00032293-00032587 2012 when we started I feel like we're
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00098-00032588-00032683 very different people
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00099-00032684-00033387 yeah I think that's somewhere in between
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00100-00033388-00033640 high school and your first year of
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00101-00033641-00033911 university or college - it's like one of
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00102-00033912-00034195 the biggest years that you change you
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00103-00034196-00034411 start to realize that like all these
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00104-00034412-00034595 little things are like
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00105-00034596-00034796 so and so like me so I want to be my
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00106-00034797-00034987 friend all those things
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00107-00034988-00035174 don't matter and actually a lot of
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00108-00035175-00035417 teaching is for finding kids that what's
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00109-00035418-00035570 going to matter most of them in 20 years
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00110-00035571-00035885 it's not what matters most but now and
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00111-00035886-00036070 like they like and dislike are gonna
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00112-00036071-00036261 change as well because if you think back
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00113-00036262-00036608 coffee is like my best friend but when I
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00114-00036609-00036926 started University I Drive every Gustin
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00115-00036927-00037237 and like wine didn't like that either
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00116-00037238-00037630 and now I love it so taste buds change
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00117-00037631-00037883 your body changes and then you've got a
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00118-00037884-00039864 confidence
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00119-00039865-00040223 it changes a very scary concept to
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00120-00040224-00040560 probably everyone it's just hard to
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00121-00040561-00040914 accept change and to realize that your
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00122-00040915-00041124 life might not be what you're familiar
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00123-00041125-00041387 with and what you know the future is a
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00124-00041388-00041673 scary thing you can never predict what
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00125-00041674-00041943 will happen one little decision can
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00126-00041944-00042270 change your whole path for the future
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00127-00042271-00042471 the biggest change coming soon is that
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00128-00042472-00042636 I'm going to be going to study in Dublin
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00129-00042637-00042827 next semester
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00130-00042828-00043274 I'm terrified but also very excited but
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00131-00043275-00043418 it's gonna be very scary because it's
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00132-00043419-00043541 coming my first time living on my own
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00133-00043542-00043904 and living away from home as well in a
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00134-00043905-00044062 different country where I'm not too
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00135-00044063-00044432 familiar with the culture and I don't
3MiE3Ih9cFy-00136-00044433-00045602 know anyone over there
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3MvZtN_cBdY-00347-00361879-00362088 you
3UcWzEekHKy-00000-00000568-00000815 here we are at brookings in
3UcWzEekHKy-00001-00000816-00001054 grass area basically in the boat basin
3UcWzEekHKy-00002-00001055-00001223 i think that's what it's called i think
3UcWzEekHKy-00003-00001224-00001495 it also might be called a kite field
3UcWzEekHKy-00004-00001496-00001743 um anyway we're critters for service
3UcWzEekHKy-00005-00001744-00001871 we're just gonna get a little bit of dog
3UcWzEekHKy-00006-00001872-00001991 time in
3UcWzEekHKy-00007-00001992-00002134 we're gonna have to displace the birds
3UcWzEekHKy-00008-00002135-00002302 to do it but
3UcWzEekHKy-00009-00002303-00002487 my dogs are raised with birds so even
3UcWzEekHKy-00010-00002488-00002631 though it's gonna look like it they're
3UcWzEekHKy-00011-00002632-00002791 not chasing the birds
3UcWzEekHKy-00012-00002792-00003222 all right here we go
3UcWzEekHKy-00013-00003223-00004454 hold it hold it free dog
3UcWzEekHKy-00014-00004455-00004702 no birds are harmed in the
3UcWzEekHKy-00015-00004703-00004975 making of this video
3UcWzEekHKy-00016-00004976-00005118 hopefully they don't get pooped on for
3UcWzEekHKy-00017-00005119-00005270 it but
3UcWzEekHKy-00018-00005271-00005351 y'all
3UcWzEekHKy-00019-00005352-00005718 good girl good yard
3UcWzEekHKy-00020-00005719-00006863 come on guys bring it on back
3UcWzEekHKy-00021-00006864-00007070 all right
3UcWzEekHKy-00022-00007072-00007295 there you go
3UcWzEekHKy-00023-00007295-00007503 gotta go pick up dog poop now critters
3UcWzEekHKy-00024-00007504-00007820 for service
3VrXEQchP5I-00000-00000674-00001764 thank you
3VrXEQchP5I-00001-00001766-00002129 glorious golden years of serving the
3VrXEQchP5I-00002-00002130-00002326 lord in his Vineyard
3VrXEQchP5I-00003-00002327-00002623 this is a celebration of today
3VrXEQchP5I-00004-00002624-00002833 Reverend father
3VrXEQchP5I-00005-00002834-00003173 distinguished guests family members and
3VrXEQchP5I-00006-00003174-00003695 parishioners of bodies
3VrXEQchP5I-00007-00003696-00004156 yoga
3VrXEQchP5I-00008-00004157-00006400 problems
3VrXEQchP5I-00009-00006401-00007409 foreign
3VrXEQchP5I-00010-00007409-00007667 no function is complete without the
3VrXEQchP5I-00011-00007668-00007931 cutting of the cake and therefore I
3VrXEQchP5I-00012-00007931-00008177 request father visit a song to please
3VrXEQchP5I-00013-00008178-00010423 come and Cut the Cake
3VrXEQchP5I-00014-00010424-00011387 three two and one
3VrXEQchP5I-00015-00011388-00011710 Mrs Monica D'Souza will now leave the
3VrXEQchP5I-00016-00011711-00012880 singing of the Saudi Qatar
3VrXEQchP5I-00017-00012881-00014525 thank you
3VrXEQchP5I-00018-00014526-00014872 everywhere
3VrXEQchP5I-00019-00014872-00015151 [Applause]
3VrXEQchP5I-00020-00015152-00015787 you are one is
3VrXEQchP5I-00021-00015788-00016871 [Music]
3VrXEQchP5I-00022-00016872-00017141 [Applause]
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3VrXEQchP5I-00025-00019540-00019759 [Music]
3VrXEQchP5I-00026-00019760-00021130 [Applause]
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3VrXEQchP5I-00028-00021542-00021827 [Music]
3VrXEQchP5I-00029-00021828-00022169 sorry
3VrXEQchP5I-00030-00022170-00022645 [Applause]
3VrXEQchP5I-00031-00022646-00023155 [Music]
3VrXEQchP5I-00032-00023156-00023525 I'm now the dress Mrs anisia Lobo to
3VrXEQchP5I-00033-00023526-00024749 present the floral bouquet of father
3VrXEQchP5I-00034-00024750-00026064 [Music]
3VrXEQchP5I-00035-00026066-00027089 a clothes
3VrXEQchP5I-00036-00027089-00028285 foreign
3VrXEQchP5I-00037-00028286-00028960 [Applause]
3VrXEQchP5I-00038-00028961-00029412 [Music]
3VrXEQchP5I-00039-00029413-00031829 come on
3VrXEQchP5I-00040-00031830-00032020 we have a monsters
3VrXEQchP5I-00041-00032022-00032339 The Honorable minister of Fisheries Mr
3VrXEQchP5I-00042-00032339-00032608 nilkan helenberg I request him to
3VrXEQchP5I-00043-00032610-00033161 present the Florida bouquet of father
3VrXEQchP5I-00044-00033162-00035568 situation
3VrXEQchP5I-00045-00035569-00035999 all the children youth and seniors those
3VrXEQchP5I-00046-00036000-00036624 who are singing please come forward
3VrXEQchP5I-00047-00036625-00039345 thank you
3VrXEQchP5I-00048-00039346-00040106 [Music]
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00000-00000064-00000223 hi everyone
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00001-00000224-00000390 as everyone know
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00002-00000391-00000559 jack boomba
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00003-00000560-00000799 this is our coffee shop
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00004-00000800-00001031 thank you for your support and my dream
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00005-00001032-00001174 is coming true
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00006-00001175-00001407 we are ready to buy the tech
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00007-00001408-00001663 i wanna say thank you to the whole world
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00008-00001664-00001887 thank you for your love i feel it i
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00009-00001888-00002199 really feel it in a minute i'm not gonna
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00010-00002200-00002375 disappoint you
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00011-00002376-00002567 i know that the community is having my
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00012-00002568-00002647 back
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00013-00002648-00002910 i wanna do i wanna give back also to the
3VOJIjjDOYQ-00014-00002911-00003184 community
3VSCZrpybqA-00000-00000139-00000437 the United Ethiopian community in South
3VSCZrpybqA-00001-00000438-00000775 Africa which has about 200 000 members
3VSCZrpybqA-00002-00000776-00001085 on Tuesday held a demonstration outside
3VSCZrpybqA-00003-00001086-00001378 the Johannesburg magistrates Court
3VSCZrpybqA-00004-00001379-00001648 pleating with the courts not to Grant
3VSCZrpybqA-00005-00001650-00002039 bail to eight people who were arrested
3VSCZrpybqA-00006-00002039-00002249 for alleged kidnapping of business
3VSCZrpybqA-00007-00002250-00002579 people in and around Johannesburg
3VSCZrpybqA-00008-00002580-00002873 the Ethiopian Community is splitting
3VSCZrpybqA-00009-00002874-00003179 with the codes to ensure that this
3VSCZrpybqA-00010-00003180-00003538 dastardly Act is put to finality
3VSCZrpybqA-00011-00003539-00003761 among the Grievances they were raising
3VSCZrpybqA-00012-00003761-00004186 is that this kind of crime has been
3VSCZrpybqA-00013-00004187-00004415 spreading all over South Africa and they
3VSCZrpybqA-00014-00004416-00004649 believe that there is and organized
3VSCZrpybqA-00015-00004650-00004943 Syndicate which would keep behind this
3VSCZrpybqA-00016-00004944-00005122 kind of act
3VSCZrpybqA-00017-00005123-00005404 they are therefore pleating for punitive
3VSCZrpybqA-00018-00005405-00005638 measures which are going to be a
3VSCZrpybqA-00019-00005639-00005933 deterrent to hold B kidnappers
3VSCZrpybqA-00020-00005934-00006209 they want also a denial of bail for
3VSCZrpybqA-00021-00006210-00006443 these criminals and they say that they
3VSCZrpybqA-00022-00006444-00006664 are well-known kidnappers we have caused
3VSCZrpybqA-00023-00006665-00007031 the lives of many of their brothers
3VSCZrpybqA-00024-00007031-00007348 the United Ethiopian Community has also
3VSCZrpybqA-00025-00007350-00007578 pleaded with members of the public
3VSCZrpybqA-00026-00007579-00007931 including migrants to work with law
3VSCZrpybqA-00027-00007931-00008278 enforcement agents to ensure that they
3VSCZrpybqA-00028-00008279-00008542 get rid and account for each and every
3VSCZrpybqA-00029-00008543-00008870 kidnapper around
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00000-00000023-00000356 - Kay Los Angeles formerly Koosh games
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00001-00000357-00000620 Inc was an American video game developer
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00002-00000621-00000937 based in Camarillo California founded by
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00003-00000938-00001220 Hugh Morrow Mayer in January 2002 the
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00004-00001221-00001415 company was part of visual concepts
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00005-00001416-00001679 which itself was a part of Sega both
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00006-00001680-00001892 khush games and visual concepts were
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00007-00001893-00002063 sold to take to interactive and
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00008-00002064-00002288 subsequently became part of their new 2k
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00009-00002289-00002615 sports label push games was renamed 2k
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00010-00002616-00002921 Los Angeles in February 2007 before
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00011-00002922-00003601 being shut down in 2008
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00012-00003602-00004100 topic history
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00013-00004101-00004361 Coosh games was founded by Homaro Mayer
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00014-00004362-00004667 in January 2002 to develop videogames
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00015-00004668-00004967 with a focus on non-violence push games
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00016-00004968-00005164 exclusively developed sports games
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00017-00005165-00005371 together with its parent company visual
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00018-00005372-00005632 concepts and 4 Sega visual concepts
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00019-00005633-00006052 parent on January 24 2005 visual
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00020-00006053-00006275 concepts and push games were acquired by
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00021-00006276-00006460 take-two interactive for twenty four
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00022-00006461-00006767 million dollars the publishers 2006
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00023-00006768-00007031 formed 10k filing later showed that a
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00024-00007031-00007295 total of 32 point 2 million dollars had
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00025-00007295-00007493 been paid to Sega for the acquisition of
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00026-00007494-00007714 visual concepts and affiliate properties
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00027-00007715-00008249 by January 2006 On January 25th 2005 the
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00028-00008250-00008446 day following the acquisition take-two
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00029-00008447-00008594 interactive announced their new
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00030-00008595-00008873 publishing label 2k games and its 2k
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00031-00008874-00009035 sports division the latter of which
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00032-00009036-00009280 would henceforth manage visual concepts
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00033-00009281-00009574 and khush games in February 2007 Coosh
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00034-00009575-00009910 Games was rebranded 2k Los Angeles the
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00035-00009911-00010069 company's founder and until then
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00036-00010070-00010291 president Mayer left the company and was
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00037-00010292-00010544 succeeded by Graham Bayliss mayor
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00038-00010545-00010738 together with partner George Simmons
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00039-00010739-00010955 went on to found zindagi Games in July
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00040-00010956-00011354 2007 2k Los Angeles was shut down in
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00041-00011355-00011546 2008
3cW-ZuJZqGy-00042-00011547-00011954 equals equals games developed
3dn8m4vnptI-00000-00000136-00000430 my friends i've got a cool debit card i
3dn8m4vnptI-00001-00000431-00000678 use that i absolutely love that i'm
3dn8m4vnptI-00002-00000679-00000919 going to tell you about today you can
3dn8m4vnptI-00003-00000919-00001239 earn up to a bitcoin i mean the odds of
3dn8m4vnptI-00004-00001240-00001439 that aren't very high but you can
3dn8m4vnptI-00005-00001440-00001718 actually win a bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00006-00001719-00001895 by using this
3dn8m4vnptI-00007-00001896-00002207 debit card this is a fold card i'm going
3dn8m4vnptI-00008-00002208-00002407 to show you the website and if you want
3dn8m4vnptI-00009-00002408-00002695 to use this card just go to the link in
3dn8m4vnptI-00010-00002696-00002958 the description it's like use dot fold
3dn8m4vnptI-00011-00002959-00003335 app dot com slash r slash jerry banfield
3dn8m4vnptI-00012-00003336-00003551 use that link and you can join me and
3dn8m4vnptI-00013-00003552-00003775 i'll get a little bit of bitcoin every
3dn8m4vnptI-00014-00003776-00003975 time you spend on this card
3dn8m4vnptI-00015-00003976-00004303 i love this debit card i've tried using
3dn8m4vnptI-00016-00004304-00004527 a couple of crypto debit cards the basic
3dn8m4vnptI-00017-00004528-00004791 thing this crypto debit card does is
3dn8m4vnptI-00018-00004792-00005095 you put your us dollars on this card
3dn8m4vnptI-00019-00005096-00005270 and i get bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00020-00005271-00005527 back on everything so if you love
3dn8m4vnptI-00021-00005528-00005702 bitcoin and your bitcoin maximalists
3dn8m4vnptI-00022-00005703-00005831 like me and you think bitcoin could
3dn8m4vnptI-00023-00005832-00006134 eliminate 50 of the world's problems or
3dn8m4vnptI-00024-00006135-00006318 if you just want to get into bitcoin but
3dn8m4vnptI-00025-00006319-00006598 you don't want to buy it at all
3dn8m4vnptI-00026-00006600-00006806 this card is a great way to turn your
3dn8m4vnptI-00027-00006808-00007014 rewards now let me explain the number
3dn8m4vnptI-00028-00007015-00007278 one reason because you probably like me
3dn8m4vnptI-00029-00007279-00007519 already have rewards cards where you're
3dn8m4vnptI-00030-00007520-00007727 like jerry i already get this cash back
3dn8m4vnptI-00031-00007728-00008046 on my this card and this on my that card
3dn8m4vnptI-00032-00008047-00008391 i've moved all my spending over
3dn8m4vnptI-00033-00008392-00008767 to my fold card
3dn8m4vnptI-00034-00008768-00008878 because
3dn8m4vnptI-00035-00008879-00009223 first this is a prepaid debit card and i
3dn8m4vnptI-00036-00009224-00009471 like spending on a prepaid debit card
3dn8m4vnptI-00037-00009472-00009671 because i'm spending money i actually
3dn8m4vnptI-00038-00009672-00009967 have instead of spending money on credit
3dn8m4vnptI-00039-00009968-00010110 and it's too
3dn8m4vnptI-00040-00010111-00010374 you know i'm spending cash on this card
3dn8m4vnptI-00041-00010375-00010567 instead of spending credit on another
3dn8m4vnptI-00042-00010568-00010774 card and it's an entirely different
3dn8m4vnptI-00043-00010775-00011031 purchasing philosophy when you buy on a
3dn8m4vnptI-00044-00011032-00011151 credit card
3dn8m4vnptI-00045-00011152-00011383 i've found it's much more easy for me to
3dn8m4vnptI-00046-00011384-00011623 just throw my money around and to get a
3dn8m4vnptI-00047-00011624-00011799 false sense of how much money i really
3dn8m4vnptI-00048-00011800-00011974 have even when i'm paying the statement
3dn8m4vnptI-00049-00011975-00012183 balance in full and it's much easier to
3dn8m4vnptI-00050-00012184-00012391 get into credit card debt as i know
3dn8m4vnptI-00051-00012392-00012567 having accumulated over a hundred
3dn8m4vnptI-00052-00012568-00012727 thousand in credit card debt at one
3dn8m4vnptI-00053-00012728-00012838 point
3dn8m4vnptI-00054-00012839-00012999 yeah that was a lot of bad spending
3dn8m4vnptI-00055-00013000-00013215 choices back to back to back
3dn8m4vnptI-00056-00013216-00013303 and
3dn8m4vnptI-00057-00013304-00013543 i can say that if you don't spend that
3dn8m4vnptI-00058-00013544-00013743 first transaction on a credit card you
3dn8m4vnptI-00059-00013744-00013927 won't get into credit card debt like in
3dn8m4vnptI-00060-00013928-00014103 aaa if you don't take that first drink
3dn8m4vnptI-00061-00014104-00014319 you won't get drunk well if you
3dn8m4vnptI-00062-00014319-00014599 use a prepaid debit card you can pay for
3dn8m4vnptI-00063-00014600-00014758 almost anything you'd pay with on a
3dn8m4vnptI-00064-00014759-00014894 credit card
3dn8m4vnptI-00065-00014895-00015119 and you can earn bitcoin on it
3dn8m4vnptI-00066-00015119-00015255 and you don't have to worry about
3dn8m4vnptI-00067-00015256-00015407 getting into credit card debt it's
3dn8m4vnptI-00068-00015408-00015558 awesome
3dn8m4vnptI-00069-00015559-00015879 so uh this car this i've checked out
3dn8m4vnptI-00070-00015880-00016158 some different crypto rewards cards and
3dn8m4vnptI-00071-00016159-00016335 now the second reason you'll be like
3dn8m4vnptI-00072-00016336-00016647 okay well why why not just get cash back
3dn8m4vnptI-00073-00016648-00016750 on
3dn8m4vnptI-00074-00016751-00016958 whatever card i'm already using
3dn8m4vnptI-00075-00016959-00017199 because first of all if you're like me
3dn8m4vnptI-00076-00017200-00017422 you just kind of piss that cash back
3dn8m4vnptI-00077-00017423-00017630 away mindlessly
3dn8m4vnptI-00078-00017631-00017711 where
3dn8m4vnptI-00079-00017712-00017943 you just take a discount off some amazon
3dn8m4vnptI-00080-00017944-00018150 product you don't actually save that
3dn8m4vnptI-00081-00018151-00018422 cash back again you essentially just
3dn8m4vnptI-00082-00018423-00018679 waste the cash back instead of really
3dn8m4vnptI-00083-00018680-00018807 saving it
3dn8m4vnptI-00084-00018808-00019183 so this is allowing me to actually
3dn8m4vnptI-00085-00019184-00019494 make a savings out of my rewards and
3dn8m4vnptI-00086-00019495-00019663 what's really cool
3dn8m4vnptI-00087-00019664-00019999 unlike a cash back card where even if
3dn8m4vnptI-00088-00020000-00020239 you're getting a fixed 1.5 percent cash
3dn8m4vnptI-00089-00020240-00020319 back
3dn8m4vnptI-00090-00020320-00020607 that 1.5 or even if you got a some sweet
3dn8m4vnptI-00091-00020608-00020775 card that gives you like five percent
3dn8m4vnptI-00092-00020776-00020983 cash back travel rewards like my wife
3dn8m4vnptI-00093-00020984-00021071 has
3dn8m4vnptI-00094-00021072-00021414 even if you've got a card like that
3dn8m4vnptI-00095-00021415-00021678 your five percent will never turn into
3dn8m4vnptI-00096-00021679-00022167 50 back it will never turn into 500 back
3dn8m4vnptI-00097-00022168-00022303 but what's cool
3dn8m4vnptI-00098-00022304-00022583 when you're stacking bitcoin for your
3dn8m4vnptI-00099-00022584-00022727 rewards
3dn8m4vnptI-00100-00022728-00022975 bitcoin has consistently went up in
3dn8m4vnptI-00101-00022976-00023327 value on average over time a lot and
3dn8m4vnptI-00102-00023328-00023503 consistently
3dn8m4vnptI-00103-00023504-00023719 if you stack 1.5 percent of your
3dn8m4vnptI-00104-00023720-00023967 spending today in bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00105-00023968-00024071 that
3dn8m4vnptI-00106-00024072-00024239 very easily
3dn8m4vnptI-00107-00024240-00024471 in my opinion is going to 10x in the
3dn8m4vnptI-00108-00024472-00024686 future which means you'll effectively be
3dn8m4vnptI-00109-00024687-00024942 getting 15
3dn8m4vnptI-00110-00024943-00025222 back on what you're spending today and i
3dn8m4vnptI-00111-00025223-00025399 think bitcoin is easily going to a
3dn8m4vnptI-00112-00025400-00025655 million dollars which per bitcoin in the
3dn8m4vnptI-00113-00025656-00025870 future maybe five 10 years from now
3dn8m4vnptI-00114-00025872-00026118 which is 50 times the price today so
3dn8m4vnptI-00115-00026119-00026358 imagine instead of getting
3dn8m4vnptI-00116-00026360-00026495 whatever you're getting back on your
3dn8m4vnptI-00117-00026495-00026758 card today you stack your bitcoin up
3dn8m4vnptI-00118-00026760-00027062 with this visa fold card
3dn8m4vnptI-00119-00027063-00027174 and
3dn8m4vnptI-00120-00027175-00027399 one day the one percent cash back you
3dn8m4vnptI-00121-00027400-00027511 get now
3dn8m4vnptI-00122-00027512-00027799 has the ability to turn into 50
3dn8m4vnptI-00123-00027800-00028046 cash back in the future
3dn8m4vnptI-00124-00028047-00028279 that's what's really cool and if you
3dn8m4vnptI-00125-00028280-00028446 don't want to buy bitcoin this card's
3dn8m4vnptI-00126-00028447-00028670 the easiest way to get in you just
3dn8m4vnptI-00127-00028672-00028902 use your bank account load the card up
3dn8m4vnptI-00128-00028904-00029231 and spend and this is a fun card also
3dn8m4vnptI-00129-00029232-00029511 i've chosen this card other over other
3dn8m4vnptI-00130-00029512-00029639 crypto cards
3dn8m4vnptI-00131-00029639-00029895 because it only gives you bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00132-00029895-00030135 and you don't actually have the bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00133-00030136-00030351 in your possession which is much simpler
3dn8m4vnptI-00134-00030352-00030574 for tax purposes
3dn8m4vnptI-00135-00030575-00030807 and then i suggest you make sure you
3dn8m4vnptI-00136-00030808-00031087 have a an off exchange or
3dn8m4vnptI-00137-00031088-00031327 just like a regular
3dn8m4vnptI-00138-00031327-00031543 a wallet that you actually have control
3dn8m4vnptI-00139-00031544-00031823 of the private keys and or the password
3dn8m4vnptI-00140-00031824-00032039 and not something that's on an exchange
3dn8m4vnptI-00141-00032039-00032223 and then what you can do is withdraw
3dn8m4vnptI-00142-00032224-00032479 these rewards at some point it once you
3dn8m4vnptI-00143-00032480-00032646 get a certain threshold i've got enough
3dn8m4vnptI-00144-00032647-00032902 to withdraw in the first month of using
3dn8m4vnptI-00145-00032903-00033207 this card i've gotten a hundred dollars
3dn8m4vnptI-00146-00033208-00033543 worth of bitcoin already 500 000
3dn8m4vnptI-00147-00033544-00033831 satoshi's in the first months of using
3dn8m4vnptI-00148-00033832-00033951 this card
3dn8m4vnptI-00149-00033952-00034239 because it was cool this card has a spin
3dn8m4vnptI-00150-00034240-00034359 wheel
3dn8m4vnptI-00151-00034360-00034623 and if you've got a little bit of a
3dn8m4vnptI-00152-00034624-00034887 gaming maybe a little gambling tendency
3dn8m4vnptI-00153-00034888-00035127 you like a little game a little fun
3dn8m4vnptI-00154-00035128-00035311 this is a fun way to earn rewards
3dn8m4vnptI-00155-00035312-00035535 because this is how you can earn up to a
3dn8m4vnptI-00156-00035536-00035727 bitcoin back on your purchase now the
3dn8m4vnptI-00157-00035728-00035902 odds of it are
3dn8m4vnptI-00158-00035903-00036071 similar to winning the lottery not as
3dn8m4vnptI-00159-00036072-00036318 bad as the powerball but every time you
3dn8m4vnptI-00160-00036319-00036559 buy something you get to take a shot at
3dn8m4vnptI-00161-00036560-00036823 it so if you spend one thing a day you
3dn8m4vnptI-00162-00036824-00037007 get to take 30 shots at winning the
3dn8m4vnptI-00163-00037008-00037223 bitcoin and then if you're a try hard
3dn8m4vnptI-00164-00037224-00037399 like me you can get
3dn8m4vnptI-00165-00037400-00037702 you can pay the 150 fee for the premium
3dn8m4vnptI-00166-00037703-00037807 version
3dn8m4vnptI-00167-00037808-00038030 and you can take a bunch of chances at
3dn8m4vnptI-00168-00038031-00038246 winning that one bitcoin so what you do
3dn8m4vnptI-00169-00038247-00038487 with this fold rewards debit card
3dn8m4vnptI-00170-00038488-00038727 is if you use my link it'll just take
3dn8m4vnptI-00171-00038728-00038895 you to a page where you put your email
3dn8m4vnptI-00172-00038896-00039102 address in and sign up
3dn8m4vnptI-00173-00039103-00039343 and then i'll get a few satoshi's which
3dn8m4vnptI-00174-00039344-00039646 is a fractions of a cent every single
3dn8m4vnptI-00175-00039647-00039887 time you spend something on the card
3dn8m4vnptI-00176-00039888-00040030 which is awesome
3dn8m4vnptI-00177-00040031-00040199 for a year or so
3dn8m4vnptI-00178-00040200-00040423 so you can we can all stack our bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00179-00040424-00040639 together i just referred my first person
3dn8m4vnptI-00180-00040640-00040823 which is cool so what you do with this
3dn8m4vnptI-00181-00040824-00041046 card it's a it's an app on your phone
3dn8m4vnptI-00182-00041047-00041279 that you use that's a lot of fun so you
3dn8m4vnptI-00183-00041280-00041518 sign up using my link you download the
3dn8m4vnptI-00184-00041519-00041711 app on your phone you sign in using the
3dn8m4vnptI-00185-00041712-00041879 email address you put
3dn8m4vnptI-00186-00041880-00042095 then you can either choose a flat one
3dn8m4vnptI-00187-00042096-00042374 percent back in bitcoin the bitcoin
3dn8m4vnptI-00188-00042375-00042599 price is whatever it is that day
3dn8m4vnptI-00189-00042600-00042846 which means if the bitcoin price doubles
3dn8m4vnptI-00190-00042847-00043062 overnight all the rewards you've gotten
3dn8m4vnptI-00191-00043063-00043287 at that lower price are now worth twice
3dn8m4vnptI-00192-00043288-00043527 as much how cool is that
3dn8m4vnptI-00193-00043528-00043815 and with the spin wheel i've earned an
3dn8m4vnptI-00194-00043816-00044023 average
3dn8m4vnptI-00195-00044024-00044302 i've spent about three thousand dollars
3dn8m4vnptI-00196-00044303-00044495 on this in the first few
3dn8m4vnptI-00197-00044496-00044751 weeks i've had it and i've gotten uh
3dn8m4vnptI-00198-00044752-00044990 about a hundred dollars over a hundred
3dn8m4vnptI-00199-00044991-00045151 dollars in bitcoin i've earned an
3dn8m4vnptI-00200-00045152-00045415 average of three percent cash back
3dn8m4vnptI-00201-00045416-00045655 because i there's two different plans
3dn8m4vnptI-00202-00045656-00045967 they have on this debit card
3dn8m4vnptI-00203-00045968-00046246 so i use the spin plus plan you can get
3dn8m4vnptI-00204-00046247-00046543 up to 100 cash back now this thing you
3dn8m4vnptI-00205-00046544-00046886 got to drop 150 for the spin plus
3dn8m4vnptI-00206-00046887-00047111 once a year and whenever they have a
3dn8m4vnptI-00207-00047112-00047286 credit card you can upgrade for free to
3dn8m4vnptI-00208-00047287-00047518 that but what's really cool on this one
3dn8m4vnptI-00209-00047519-00047983 too is i used you get to buy amazon gift
3dn8m4vnptI-00210-00047984-00048262 cards for five percent cash back plus
3dn8m4vnptI-00211-00048263-00048583 the spin wheel up to 500 a month on this
3dn8m4vnptI-00212-00048584-00048895 one up to 250 a month on the other one
3dn8m4vnptI-00213-00048896-00049151 so what i did is i bought 500 an amazon
3dn8m4vnptI-00214-00049152-00049455 gift cards at five percent then i hit
3dn8m4vnptI-00215-00049456-00049639 the spin wheel for three percent and i
3dn8m4vnptI-00216-00049640-00050015 got eight percent back on 500
3dn8m4vnptI-00217-00050016-00050335 in amazon gift cards which is awesome
3dn8m4vnptI-00218-00050336-00050567 and then i get extra spins on this all
3dn8m4vnptI-00219-00050568-00050702 the time
3dn8m4vnptI-00220-00050703-00050951 and it allows me to
3dn8m4vnptI-00221-00050952-00051190 consistently i paid my flood insurance
3dn8m4vnptI-00222-00051191-00051423 premium for 1700 because my insurance
3dn8m4vnptI-00223-00051424-00051687 company for some reason the mortgage and
3dn8m4vnptI-00224-00051688-00051846 the insurance weren't getting it
3dn8m4vnptI-00225-00051847-00052054 together so i just paid it before it and
3dn8m4vnptI-00226-00052055-00052319 it was too late and then i hit like a
3dn8m4vnptI-00227-00052320-00052550 three or four percent cash back on a
3dn8m4vnptI-00228-00052551-00052719 1700
3dn8m4vnptI-00229-00052720-00052854 purchase
3dn8m4vnptI-00230-00052855-00053038 and that's why this because i spun the
3dn8m4vnptI-00231-00053039-00053230 wheel i did the little spin wheel a
3dn8m4vnptI-00232-00053232-00053438 whole bunch of times because i paid this
3dn8m4vnptI-00233-00053439-00053750 150 annual fee so in the first month
3dn8m4vnptI-00234-00053751-00054030 i've almost covered this annual fee
3dn8m4vnptI-00235-00054032-00054230 in the rewards i've got now you can do
3dn8m4vnptI-00236-00054232-00054382 the free one you don't need to do the
3dn8m4vnptI-00237-00054383-00054630 annual fee you still get five percent on
3dn8m4vnptI-00238-00054632-00054863 the amazon gift cards you have to spin
3dn8m4vnptI-00239-00054864-00055142 within an hour of making a purchase
3dn8m4vnptI-00240-00055144-00055350 and you get one extra spin instead of
3dn8m4vnptI-00241-00055351-00055494 three you don't get as much cash back
3dn8m4vnptI-00242-00055495-00055735 but then again it's free also so if you
3dn8m4vnptI-00243-00055736-00056094 spend a lot i mean i probably spend
3dn8m4vnptI-00244-00056095-00056319 a thousand or two thousand a month so i
3dn8m4vnptI-00245-00056320-00056447 figure
3dn8m4vnptI-00246-00056448-00056663 this would be worth it for me and plus i
3dn8m4vnptI-00247-00056664-00056999 want to share it with you so
3dn8m4vnptI-00248-00057000-00057238 folds mission is to bring bitcoin to
3dn8m4vnptI-00249-00057239-00057447 everyone and that's i chose this over
3dn8m4vnptI-00250-00057448-00057647 other crypto rewards cards because of
3dn8m4vnptI-00251-00057648-00057991 the simplicity i tried the coinbase card
3dn8m4vnptI-00252-00057991-00058238 and that offered up to four percent just
3dn8m4vnptI-00253-00058239-00058407 getting started and then it quickly
3dn8m4vnptI-00254-00058408-00058711 ratcheted down to like 1.5 percent and
3dn8m4vnptI-00255-00058712-00059015 with that then that's an exchange so
3dn8m4vnptI-00256-00059016-00059223 it's annoying for tax purposes because
3dn8m4vnptI-00257-00059224-00059399 every single time i get rewards then
3dn8m4vnptI-00258-00059400-00059566 that's another transaction then i gotta
3dn8m4vnptI-00259-00059567-00059911 pay capital gains on this debit card you
3dn8m4vnptI-00260-00059912-00060063 don't actually have possession of the
3dn8m4vnptI-00261-00060064-00060303 bitcoin so until you withdraw the
3dn8m4vnptI-00262-00060304-00060542 bitcoin off of fold
3dn8m4vnptI-00263-00060544-00060775 you have not actually got any money
3dn8m4vnptI-00264-00060776-00060926 which is great so you can just watch it
3dn8m4vnptI-00265-00060927-00061111 stack up when you get a big enough stack
3dn8m4vnptI-00266-00061112-00061319 then you can withdraw it so if you'd
3dn8m4vnptI-00267-00061320-00061519 like to try this card i've loved this
3dn8m4vnptI-00268-00061520-00061815 card i've changed all my spending over
3dn8m4vnptI-00269-00061816-00062047 to my fold card and the links in the
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3dn8m4vnptI-00271-00062344-00062679 r jerrybanfield you can or we can all
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3e3dyAkbJng-00001-00000824-00000983 master
3e3dyAkbJng-00002-00000984-00001383 lord i want to share the testimony of
3e3dyAkbJng-00003-00001384-00001495 ali
3e3dyAkbJng-00004-00001496-00001710 ali says he had a business a few months
3e3dyAkbJng-00005-00001711-00001910 ago but because of bad economy
3e3dyAkbJng-00006-00001911-00002175 he lost everything after that he had a
3e3dyAkbJng-00007-00002176-00002302 heart attack
3e3dyAkbJng-00008-00002303-00002510 and they took him to the hospital they
3e3dyAkbJng-00009-00002511-00002623 said you have a
3e3dyAkbJng-00010-00002624-00002902 blocked artery and we need to do an open
3e3dyAkbJng-00011-00002903-00003126 heart surgery right away
3e3dyAkbJng-00012-00003127-00003543 so he's in hospital he said that night
3e3dyAkbJng-00013-00003544-00003759 i remembered i had watched your programs
3e3dyAkbJng-00014-00003760-00003935 that jesus healed so before i went to
3e3dyAkbJng-00015-00003936-00004086 bed i said jesus
3e3dyAkbJng-00016-00004087-00004391 would you heal me that night he says i
3e3dyAkbJng-00017-00004392-00004495 had a dream
3e3dyAkbJng-00018-00004496-00004815 jesus appeared at my bedside put a cross
3e3dyAkbJng-00019-00004816-00005111 on my chest next morning i get up and
3e3dyAkbJng-00020-00005112-00005206 i'm so happy
3e3dyAkbJng-00021-00005207-00005470 i'm so joyful i feel so good they're
3e3dyAkbJng-00022-00005471-00005654 about to take me to the surgery room i
3e3dyAkbJng-00023-00005655-00005751 tell them stop
3e3dyAkbJng-00024-00005752-00005999 doctor stop please take another test
3e3dyAkbJng-00025-00006000-00006111 they said we didn't
3e3dyAkbJng-00026-00006112-00006343 do a test yesterday look at this you
3e3dyAkbJng-00027-00006344-00006510 need surgery or you're going to die
3e3dyAkbJng-00028-00006511-00006734 i said no please one more time test it
3e3dyAkbJng-00029-00006736-00006887 again test it again
3e3dyAkbJng-00030-00006888-00007159 so because i insisted they tested and
3e3dyAkbJng-00031-00007159-00007223 they
3e3dyAkbJng-00032-00007223-00007470 took pictures and he said what has
3e3dyAkbJng-00033-00007472-00007551 happened
3e3dyAkbJng-00034-00007552-00007751 in one day there's nothing wrong with
3e3dyAkbJng-00035-00007752-00007919 your heart you can go home
3e3dyAkbJng-00036-00007920-00008134 what happened he said i was afraid to
3e3dyAkbJng-00037-00008136-00008295 tell him that i saw jesus
3e3dyAkbJng-00038-00008296-00008646 i said last night i had to dream of
3e3dyAkbJng-00039-00008647-00008983 mr lord who came and healed me
3e3dyAkbJng-00040-00008984-00009303 he said now i'm a believer i'm a child
3e3dyAkbJng-00041-00009304-00009391 of god
3e3dyAkbJng-00042-00009392-00009727 and i'm walking and talking to mr lord
3e3dyAkbJng-00043-00009728-00010063 every day my beloved because
3e3dyAkbJng-00044-00010064-00010295 jesus is doing his work we need to do
3e3dyAkbJng-00045-00010296-00010503 our part we need to share the gospel
3e3dyAkbJng-00046-00010504-00010751 and we are doing it i appreciate those
3e3dyAkbJng-00047-00010752-00010887 who pray for us and
3e3dyAkbJng-00048-00010888-00011206 support us and may i ask you would you
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3e3dyAkbJng-00054-00012079-00012310 monthly so we can go every day into
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3e3dyAkbJng-00056-00012424-00012719 we are doing our part jesus is doing his
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3e3dyAkbJng-00060-00013359-00013430 in him
3e3dyAkbJng-00061-00013431-00014256 god bless you
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3idkeYF16Vk-00001-00000727-00000878 hey psych2goers
3idkeYF16Vk-00002-00000880-00001119 and welcome back to our channel thank
3idkeYF16Vk-00003-00001120-00001254 you so much for all the love you've
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3idkeYF16Vk-00005-00001359-00001550 your ongoing support has helped us make
3idkeYF16Vk-00006-00001551-00001710 psychology and mental health more
3idkeYF16Vk-00007-00001711-00001895 accessible to everyone
3idkeYF16Vk-00008-00001896-00002167 now let's continue we've all done
3idkeYF16Vk-00009-00002168-00002334 something self-destructive at some point
3idkeYF16Vk-00010-00002335-00002463 in our lives
3idkeYF16Vk-00011-00002464-00002647 most of the time it's not intentional
3idkeYF16Vk-00012-00002648-00002815 and doesn't become a habit
3idkeYF16Vk-00013-00002816-00002983 self-destructive behaviors are those
3idkeYF16Vk-00014-00002984-00003183 that are bound to harm you physically or
3idkeYF16Vk-00015-00003184-00003303 mentally
3idkeYF16Vk-00016-00003304-00003527 it may be unintentional or you may know
3idkeYF16Vk-00017-00003528-00003654 exactly what you're doing
3idkeYF16Vk-00018-00003655-00003927 but the urge is too strong to control
3idkeYF16Vk-00019-00003928-00004095 problems can eventually arise when this
3idkeYF16Vk-00020-00004096-00004319 type of behavior becomes habitual
3idkeYF16Vk-00021-00004320-00004606 so here are seven common behaviors of a
3idkeYF16Vk-00022-00004607-00004863 self-destructive person
3idkeYF16Vk-00023-00004864-00005135 one you hold on to a self-defeating
3idkeYF16Vk-00024-00005136-00005302 mindset
3idkeYF16Vk-00025-00005303-00005527 do you struggle with thoughts like i
3idkeYF16Vk-00026-00005528-00005718 won't be able to make it
3idkeYF16Vk-00027-00005719-00006022 or i'm not good enough for this do these
3idkeYF16Vk-00028-00006023-00006215 thoughts plague you before heading into
3idkeYF16Vk-00029-00006216-00006414 any kind of situation
3idkeYF16Vk-00030-00006415-00006591 a self-defeating mindset is when you
3idkeYF16Vk-00031-00006592-00006783 have a constant stream of negative
3idkeYF16Vk-00032-00006784-00006942 thoughts about yourself
3idkeYF16Vk-00033-00006943-00007167 or your relationship with others and
3idkeYF16Vk-00034-00007168-00007431 this sorely impacts your self-esteem
3idkeYF16Vk-00035-00007431-00007614 a self-defeating mindset can become a
3idkeYF16Vk-00036-00007615-00007742 self-destructive habit
3idkeYF16Vk-00037-00007743-00007903 because it does not allow you to be the
3idkeYF16Vk-00038-00007904-00008103 best version of yourself
3idkeYF16Vk-00039-00008104-00008527 and it's caused by no one other than you
3idkeYF16Vk-00040-00008528-00008903 two you hide from your emotions
3idkeYF16Vk-00041-00008904-00009119 when you are hiding from your emotions
3idkeYF16Vk-00042-00009120-00009287 you fail to acknowledge both your
3idkeYF16Vk-00043-00009288-00009351 positive
3idkeYF16Vk-00044-00009352-00009646 and negative emotions this results in a
3idkeYF16Vk-00045-00009647-00009910 forced deception of your emotional state
3idkeYF16Vk-00046-00009911-00010078 leading to both physical and mental
3idkeYF16Vk-00047-00010079-00010271 health issues that impose additional
3idkeYF16Vk-00048-00010272-00010438 stress on your body
3idkeYF16Vk-00049-00010439-00010663 you are at risk of having an outburst of
3idkeYF16Vk-00050-00010664-00010767 emotions
3idkeYF16Vk-00051-00010768-00010967 this is all most likely due to deep
3idkeYF16Vk-00052-00010968-00011159 emotional scarring
3idkeYF16Vk-00053-00011160-00011310 like dealing with the death of a loved
3idkeYF16Vk-00054-00011311-00011535 one you feel like it's better to not
3idkeYF16Vk-00055-00011536-00011567 feel
3idkeYF16Vk-00056-00011568-00011831 anything to relieve the pain of grief
3idkeYF16Vk-00057-00011832-00011910 over time
3idkeYF16Vk-00058-00011911-00012119 these emotions start to build up and can
3idkeYF16Vk-00059-00012120-00012310 be much more harmful when they burst out
3idkeYF16Vk-00060-00012311-00012535 during a meltdown
3idkeYF16Vk-00061-00012536-00012910 three you fail to take action
3idkeYF16Vk-00062-00012911-00013111 do you over indulge in playing video
3idkeYF16Vk-00063-00013112-00013311 games instead of finding a much needed
3idkeYF16Vk-00064-00013312-00013415 job
3idkeYF16Vk-00065-00013416-00013566 do you feel like things just aren't
3idkeYF16Vk-00066-00013568-00013807 worth trying for in the first place
3idkeYF16Vk-00067-00013808-00014007 when you fail to take action you are
3idkeYF16Vk-00068-00014008-00014183 setting yourself up for failure from the
3idkeYF16Vk-00069-00014184-00014279 start
3idkeYF16Vk-00070-00014280-00014471 you might cost yourself relationships
3idkeYF16Vk-00071-00014472-00014647 jobs and other opportunities that
3idkeYF16Vk-00072-00014647-00014886 require you to take some risk
3idkeYF16Vk-00073-00014887-00015038 this kind of behavior can be a very
3idkeYF16Vk-00074-00015040-00015222 difficult habit to overcome
3idkeYF16Vk-00075-00015223-00015383 and bars you from future attempts at
3idkeYF16Vk-00076-00015384-00015694 being successful in your goals
3idkeYF16Vk-00077-00015695-00016103 four you hold on to forced incompetence
3idkeYF16Vk-00078-00016104-00016279 do you sell yourself short when you tell
3idkeYF16Vk-00079-00016280-00016550 yourself i'm just not good at math
3idkeYF16Vk-00080-00016551-00016719 and don't even try to understand the
3idkeYF16Vk-00081-00016720-00016935 material better in your math class
3idkeYF16Vk-00082-00016936-00017150 forced incompetence is a mindset where
3idkeYF16Vk-00083-00017151-00017350 you won't try to learn and practice if
3idkeYF16Vk-00084-00017351-00017503 you believe that you do not have an
3idkeYF16Vk-00085-00017504-00017663 innate talent for it
3idkeYF16Vk-00086-00017664-00017855 this thinking can also be a coping
3idkeYF16Vk-00087-00017856-00018047 mechanism if you aren't confident in
3idkeYF16Vk-00088-00018048-00018222 your abilities
3idkeYF16Vk-00089-00018223-00018479 unfortunately this mindset can only set
3idkeYF16Vk-00090-00018480-00018599 you up for failure
3idkeYF16Vk-00091-00018600-00018791 and keep you from trying new things and
3idkeYF16Vk-00092-00018792-00019071 broadening your horizons
3idkeYF16Vk-00093-00019072-00019447 5. you are socially isolated
3idkeYF16Vk-00094-00019448-00019622 do your friends and family no longer
3idkeYF16Vk-00095-00019623-00019758 want to talk to you
3idkeYF16Vk-00096-00019759-00019999 did you pick a fight and insult them or
3idkeYF16Vk-00097-00020000-00020119 maybe they don't reach out to you
3idkeYF16Vk-00098-00020120-00020175 anymore
3idkeYF16Vk-00099-00020176-00020335 because you've simply ignored all their
3idkeYF16Vk-00100-00020336-00020614 texts calls and invitations to hang out
3idkeYF16Vk-00101-00020615-00020758 isolating yourself from friends and
3idkeYF16Vk-00102-00020759-00020919 family can be an active or a
3idkeYF16Vk-00103-00020920-00021071 subconscious choice
3idkeYF16Vk-00104-00021072-00021222 you might think you are doing the world
3idkeYF16Vk-00105-00021223-00021399 a favor figuring
3idkeYF16Vk-00106-00021400-00021567 everyone would just be better off if
3idkeYF16Vk-00107-00021568-00021743 they just stayed away from you
3idkeYF16Vk-00108-00021744-00021991 in reality all you are doing is harming
3idkeYF16Vk-00109-00021992-00022055 yourself
3idkeYF16Vk-00110-00022056-00022239 and the people close to you by damaging
3idkeYF16Vk-00111-00022240-00022407 your relationships and stirring up
3idkeYF16Vk-00112-00022408-00022750 depression and anxiety for yourself
3idkeYF16Vk-00113-00022751-00022986 6. you are unnecessarily
3idkeYF16Vk-00114-00022987-00023167 self-sacrificial
3idkeYF16Vk-00115-00023168-00023350 are you so focused on making others
3idkeYF16Vk-00116-00023351-00023542 happy that you forgot to look for your
3idkeYF16Vk-00117-00023543-00023694 own happiness
3idkeYF16Vk-00118-00023695-00023911 when you're being self-sacrificial you
3idkeYF16Vk-00119-00023912-00024014 feel noble
3idkeYF16Vk-00120-00024015-00024199 and maybe you've tried to convince
3idkeYF16Vk-00121-00024200-00024327 yourself that you are doing the right
3idkeYF16Vk-00122-00024328-00024430 thing
3idkeYF16Vk-00123-00024431-00024678 truthfully this behavior can actually be
3idkeYF16Vk-00124-00024679-00024878 more self-sabotaging
3idkeYF16Vk-00125-00024879-00024999 maybe you decided to follow a
3idkeYF16Vk-00126-00025000-00025183 professional career path only because
3idkeYF16Vk-00127-00025184-00025358 your parents wanted that particular path
3idkeYF16Vk-00128-00025359-00025463 for you
3idkeYF16Vk-00129-00025464-00025631 but it's now left you mentally and
3idkeYF16Vk-00130-00025632-00025783 physically exhausted because your
3idkeYF16Vk-00131-00025783-00026046 heart's never truly been in it
3idkeYF16Vk-00132-00026047-00026358 7. you have problems with alcohol and
3idkeYF16Vk-00133-00026360-00026527 drug abuse
3idkeYF16Vk-00134-00026527-00026743 abusing the use of alcohol and drugs is
3idkeYF16Vk-00135-00026744-00026927 much more evident in people who are not
3idkeYF16Vk-00136-00026927-00027014 happy
3idkeYF16Vk-00137-00027016-00027223 by reaching for these substances you
3idkeYF16Vk-00138-00027224-00027399 might be using them to escape
3idkeYF16Vk-00139-00027400-00027711 from your situation meanwhile the world
3idkeYF16Vk-00140-00027712-00027767 around you
3idkeYF16Vk-00141-00027768-00027999 keeps going and you will keep falling
3idkeYF16Vk-00142-00028000-00028095 behind
3idkeYF16Vk-00143-00028095-00028279 and then find yourself in an even worse
3idkeYF16Vk-00144-00028280-00028511 situation than the one before
3idkeYF16Vk-00145-00028512-00028662 this can turn into a cycle that
3idkeYF16Vk-00146-00028663-00028823 negatively affects your physical
3idkeYF16Vk-00147-00028824-00029111 and mental health do you relate to any
3idkeYF16Vk-00148-00029112-00029262 of these habits
3idkeYF16Vk-00149-00029263-00029407 we hope this video helped you to
3idkeYF16Vk-00150-00029408-00029567 recognize some self-destructive
3idkeYF16Vk-00151-00029568-00029695 behaviors
3idkeYF16Vk-00152-00029695-00029887 these kinds of behaviors are common in
3idkeYF16Vk-00153-00029888-00029999 all of us
3idkeYF16Vk-00154-00030000-00030151 and the importance of bringing awareness
3idkeYF16Vk-00155-00030152-00030335 to them and being able to identify these
3idkeYF16Vk-00156-00030336-00030431 negative behaviors
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3jNEFlhZDjk-00001-00000723-00001910 Oh Troy Tilton what are you going to
3jNEFlhZDjk-00002-00001911-00002313 land them so I typically lies like half
3jNEFlhZDjk-00003-00002314-00002549 broken brick ELLs area but I'm
3jNEFlhZDjk-00004-00002550-00002714 comfortable and confident doing anything
3jNEFlhZDjk-00005-00002715-00003068 half is that that's like this close
3jNEFlhZDjk-00006-00003069-00003260 closest thing to us right now
3jNEFlhZDjk-00007-00003261-00003675 broken brick is this one okay yeah let's
3jNEFlhZDjk-00008-00003676-00004061 go there yeah all right like wherever
3jNEFlhZDjk-00009-00004063-00004817 I'll find it got in first usually
3jNEFlhZDjk-00010-00004818-00005514 and it's quick oh here we go
3jNEFlhZDjk-00011-00005515-00006155 step one zero
3jNEFlhZDjk-00012-00006156-00006644 you killed it hey there's another one
3jNEFlhZDjk-00013-00006645-00007080 nice way the big week
3jNEFlhZDjk-00014-00007081-00007542 yes way come up here this chocolate beer
3jNEFlhZDjk-00015-00007543-00008448 oh thanks there's another one dad
3jNEFlhZDjk-00016-00008449-00008769 hi when I'm buzzed I'm gonna leave quick
3jNEFlhZDjk-00017-00008770-00009081 this last word it was already do you
3jNEFlhZDjk-00018-00009082-00009599 live oh yeah that's the best I have no
3jNEFlhZDjk-00019-00009600-00009744 mass oh I'm safe
3jNEFlhZDjk-00020-00009745-00010068 he's like to our north yeah he's pushing
3jNEFlhZDjk-00021-00010069-00012252 up like I'm whipping creams a little bit
3jNEFlhZDjk-00022-00012253-00012282 today
3jNEFlhZDjk-00023-00012283-00012596 oh my eyes just feel slow for some
3jNEFlhZDjk-00024-00012597-00013383 reason that was from brick yeah I did
3jNEFlhZDjk-00025-00013384-00013671 knock went around when they res he's
3jNEFlhZDjk-00026-00013672-00013953 still up brick you said yeah I saw him
3jNEFlhZDjk-00027-00013954-00014190 every class like can you pick it right
3jNEFlhZDjk-00028-00014191-00014319 now I think he's running around you see
3jNEFlhZDjk-00029-00014319-00014610 where you went oh yeah he's a tough boy
3jNEFlhZDjk-00030-00014611-00014787 I'll have enough to get up there here
3jNEFlhZDjk-00031-00014788-00015131 stay here there's one top floor - okay
3jNEFlhZDjk-00032-00015132-00015810 he's gonna fight a head shot at him he's
3jNEFlhZDjk-00033-00015811-00016539 yelling he's needing gays a second I'm
3jNEFlhZDjk-00034-00016540-00017600 gonna go off I hate the
3jNEFlhZDjk-00035-00017601-00018354 if you want it okay
3jNEFlhZDjk-00036-00018355-00018726 I think they're finding an apartment in
3jNEFlhZDjk-00037-00018727-00019110 the center yeah I'm gonna grab this
3jNEFlhZDjk-00038-00019111-00019371 screening our fight yeah that's right
3jNEFlhZDjk-00039-00019372-00019791 close to me are you fighting yeah he
3jNEFlhZDjk-00040-00019792-00020874 just pushed me randomly yeah yeah you
3jNEFlhZDjk-00041-00020875-00021246 need a bunnies this time you come right
3jNEFlhZDjk-00042-00021247-00021285 here
3jNEFlhZDjk-00043-00021286-00021714 I got agreement Oh so the most important
3jNEFlhZDjk-00044-00021715-00021894 part is ever since making sure you're
3jNEFlhZDjk-00045-00021895-00022386 getting resources right yeah yeah it
3jNEFlhZDjk-00046-00022387-00022557 means such a significant difference when
3jNEFlhZDjk-00047-00022558-00022725 I would land and get a ton of resources
3jNEFlhZDjk-00048-00022726-00023052 grace it's not yeah cuz I'm at the end
3jNEFlhZDjk-00049-00023053-00023229 it's like when you use the most honestly
3jNEFlhZDjk-00050-00023230-00023703 yeah do you like using explodes or any
3jNEFlhZDjk-00051-00023704-00024177 more just sniping I love clothes
3jNEFlhZDjk-00052-00024178-00024584 there's a group no skins west by Stadium
3jNEFlhZDjk-00053-00024585-00025714 push towards the Lucas house what
3jNEFlhZDjk-00054-00025714-00025987 so are you going into like high school
3jNEFlhZDjk-00055-00025988-00026456 or college oh that's exciting
3jNEFlhZDjk-00056-00026457-00026783 are you sitting accounting oh they're
3jNEFlhZDjk-00057-00026783-00027268 pushing us north boss hey that's what I
3jNEFlhZDjk-00058-00027269-00028843 studied - where did he drop yeah I did
3jNEFlhZDjk-00059-00028844-00030317 one pushing up now close oh do you want
3jNEFlhZDjk-00060-00030318-00030412 to take this nut get you're lower than
3jNEFlhZDjk-00061-00030413-00030908 me aight i studied biomedical sciences
3jNEFlhZDjk-00062-00030908-00031177 and organic chemistry for two years and
3jNEFlhZDjk-00063-00031178-00031457 then accounting and finance oh there's
3jNEFlhZDjk-00064-00031458-00031652 nothing bad about this that's like a
3jNEFlhZDjk-00065-00031652-00031996 weird dynamic I know but I mean I love
3jNEFlhZDjk-00066-00031997-00032227 any type of studying I really wanted to
3jNEFlhZDjk-00067-00032228-00032415 go into medicine and I loved Sciences
3jNEFlhZDjk-00068-00032416-00032665 but then I realized that you can't I
3jNEFlhZDjk-00069-00032666-00032996 can't make as much money or have as many
3jNEFlhZDjk-00070-00032997-00033208 opportunities by doing medicine as I can
3jNEFlhZDjk-00071-00033209-00033689 by owning like the private set take care
3jNEFlhZDjk-00072-00033690-00034007 of doctors so are you still studying
3jNEFlhZDjk-00073-00034008-00034415 right now nope I dropped out of school
3jNEFlhZDjk-00074-00034416-00035012 in my is it high high ground
3jNEFlhZDjk-00075-00035013-00035438 nice thank you exhale equips your Leia
3jNEFlhZDjk-00076-00035439-00036095 yeah nice I hastily quit my bed get that
3jNEFlhZDjk-00077-00036096-00036500 one no that's that's a circle that's not
3jNEFlhZDjk-00078-00036501-00036706 shooting anything did you
3jNEFlhZDjk-00079-00036707-00037058 cool Craig's name but I went to the you
3jNEFlhZDjk-00080-00037059-00037244 battle for Nia the University of
3jNEFlhZDjk-00081-00037245-00037481 Saskatchewan in Canada I'm Canadian
3jNEFlhZDjk-00082-00037482-00037931 oh yeah so I'm not West Coast California
3jNEFlhZDjk-00083-00037932-00038711 at West Coast kid you're not you're here
3jNEFlhZDjk-00084-00038712-00039395 all right I wouldn't say I'm we're if
3jNEFlhZDjk-00085-00039396-00039656 it's Queen I would have not liked taking
3jNEFlhZDjk-00086-00039657-00040028 you as Canadian you put it what what is
3jNEFlhZDjk-00087-00040029-00040556 that you took me as a Californian oh
3jNEFlhZDjk-00088-00040557-00041108 this guy below what so man let me reload
3jNEFlhZDjk-00089-00041109-00041700 it yet
3jNEFlhZDjk-00090-00041701-00042507 hi guys my shot down below
3jNEFlhZDjk-00091-00042508-00042729 hey you stole the second guys if we're
3jNEFlhZDjk-00092-00042730-00043373 talking about stealing kills
3jNEFlhZDjk-00093-00043374-00043515 let's go
3jNEFlhZDjk-00094-00043516-00044556 I killed one there was one close by this
3jNEFlhZDjk-00095-00044557-00044994 tree oh yeah there is we build up he's
3jNEFlhZDjk-00096-00044995-00045588 above I dropped them is Timmy's coaching
3jNEFlhZDjk-00097-00045589-00045677 in tune
3jNEFlhZDjk-00098-00045678-00046128 hey you kill the high ground oh I think
3jNEFlhZDjk-00099-00046129-00046374 he's struggling somewhere yeah he like
3jNEFlhZDjk-00100-00046375-00047325 drop down right here on me we can't use
3jNEFlhZDjk-00101-00047326-00047585 all them yeah yeah
3jNEFlhZDjk-00102-00047586-00048438 is that guy have mini minis no I don't
3jNEFlhZDjk-00103-00048439-00048618 know where you killed your first dude I
3jNEFlhZDjk-00104-00048619-00048846 can either go live in there's a lot more
3jNEFlhZDjk-00105-00048847-00049675 do be caressed wait a sec the minis
3jNEFlhZDjk-00106-00049676-00049967 people rifting from depo they're not
3jNEFlhZDjk-00107-00049968-00050255 rendered for me yet okay you want a
3jNEFlhZDjk-00108-00050256-00050336 purple bolt
3jNEFlhZDjk-00109-00050337-00050654 oh there's guy salute like yes okay I'm
3jNEFlhZDjk-00110-00050655-00050867 popping this big okay you good for now
3jNEFlhZDjk-00111-00050868-00051292 yeah I'm gonna pop this big a bunch of
3jNEFlhZDjk-00112-00051294-00051439 loop fell down Northwest we should go
3jNEFlhZDjk-00113-00051440-00052216 loot that quick oh they're sitting on
3jNEFlhZDjk-00114-00052217-00052589 loot Lake I'm shooting it out I killed
3jNEFlhZDjk-00115-00052590-00053742 one I killed it yeah there's loot 30 yep
3jNEFlhZDjk-00116-00053744-00053936 there's some input I don't know if you
3jNEFlhZDjk-00117-00053937-00054079 use impulses but there's some closer
3jNEFlhZDjk-00118-00054080-00054553 south of us yeah casual yeah well
3jNEFlhZDjk-00119-00054554-00055042 there's a Colt IP oh I have a heavy on
3jNEFlhZDjk-00120-00055044-00055366 any ID - oh yeah so there was guys that
3jNEFlhZDjk-00121-00055367-00055589 really like took the Tiki rift so they
3jNEFlhZDjk-00122-00055590-00055816 should be kind of nearness well there's
3jNEFlhZDjk-00123-00055817-00056015 two here we could even use one to just
3jNEFlhZDjk-00124-00056016-00056182 go and then come back and use another to
3jNEFlhZDjk-00125-00056183-00056824 get it done
3jNEFlhZDjk-00126-00056825-00057472 I'm going towards this build of five oh
3jNEFlhZDjk-00127-00057473-00057695 yeah they're fighting on the rope ring
3jNEFlhZDjk-00128-00057696-00057779 on the ring
3jNEFlhZDjk-00129-00057779-00058124 oh come get to this fight at ring okay I
3jNEFlhZDjk-00130-00058125-00059288 just finished it one time bomb Vasquez
3jNEFlhZDjk-00131-00059289-00059611 rising in a storm
3jNEFlhZDjk-00132-00059612-00061322 she's so low I had a nice I got one I'm
3jNEFlhZDjk-00133-00061323-00061760 talking to you okay okay not damn I'm
3jNEFlhZDjk-00134-00061761-00061961 not that I'm actually not a toxic
3jNEFlhZDjk-00135-00061962-00062305 quality I am totally toxic play you want
3jNEFlhZDjk-00136-00062307-00062692 to hold this big pot uh yeah I can let
3jNEFlhZDjk-00137-00062694-00062927 me take this med kit first there's one
3jNEFlhZDjk-00138-00062928-00063041 remote explosive
3jNEFlhZDjk-00139-00063041-00063458 okay I like that I really like that skin
3jNEFlhZDjk-00140-00063459-00063851 with the yeah you're damn sorry
3jNEFlhZDjk-00141-00063852-00064127 yeah let's launch pad over now you got
3jNEFlhZDjk-00142-00064128-00064855 one when I said good job team is for you
3jNEFlhZDjk-00143-00064857-00065015 and I oh there's three left
3jNEFlhZDjk-00144-00065016-00065271 yeah
3jNEFlhZDjk-00145-00065272-00065581 okay I'll go right side you go left this
3jNEFlhZDjk-00146-00065582-00065713 guy speaking wide if you have a sniper
3jNEFlhZDjk-00147-00065714-00067350 you can easily snipe oh okay
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4oNBbhu-x9c-00000-00000014-00000470 the conference on world affairs CWA is
4oNBbhu-x9c-00001-00000471-00000778 an annual conference open to the public
4oNBbhu-x9c-00002-00000779-00000998 featuring panel discussions among
4oNBbhu-x9c-00003-00000999-00001268 experts in international affairs and
4oNBbhu-x9c-00004-00001269-00001630 other areas hosted since 1948 by the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00005-00001632-00001901 University of Colorado Boulder in
4oNBbhu-x9c-00006-00001902-00002498 Boulder Colorado USA
4oNBbhu-x9c-00007-00002499-00002661 you
4oNBbhu-x9c-00008-00002662-00003007 topic history
4oNBbhu-x9c-00009-00003008-00003206 you
4oNBbhu-x9c-00010-00003207-00003596 the conference was founded in 1948 by
4oNBbhu-x9c-00011-00003597-00003839 Howard Hickman a professor of sociology
4oNBbhu-x9c-00012-00003840-00004265 at the University he ran the conference
4oNBbhu-x9c-00013-00004266-00004526 until he retired shortly before his
4oNBbhu-x9c-00014-00004527-00005026 death in 1995 the conference resumed in
4oNBbhu-x9c-00015-00005027-00005402 1996 and was directed for 16 years by
4oNBbhu-x9c-00016-00005403-00005704 Professor James Palmer currently by John
4oNBbhu-x9c-00017-00005705-00006135 Griffin
4oNBbhu-x9c-00018-00006136-00006300 you
4oNBbhu-x9c-00019-00006301-00006967 topic content and panelists
4oNBbhu-x9c-00020-00006968-00007267 the conference started out as a forum on
4oNBbhu-x9c-00021-00007268-00007538 international affairs but under hIgG
4oNBbhu-x9c-00022-00007539-00007753 Minh morphed into a discussion on a
4oNBbhu-x9c-00023-00007754-00008095 multitude of topics the core of the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00024-00008096-00008370 conference consists of panel discussions
4oNBbhu-x9c-00025-00008371-00008687 usually with three to six panelists on
4oNBbhu-x9c-00026-00008688-00009021 topics such as music art literature
4oNBbhu-x9c-00027-00009022-00009362 environmental activism business science
4oNBbhu-x9c-00028-00009363-00009753 journalism diplomacy technology
4oNBbhu-x9c-00029-00009754-00010045 spirituality the film industry pop
4oNBbhu-x9c-00030-00010046-00010388 culture visual arts politics medicine
4oNBbhu-x9c-00031-00010389-00010771 and human rights half of a panel
4oNBbhu-x9c-00032-00010772-00011035 typically consists of experts on that
4oNBbhu-x9c-00033-00011036-00011302 panel subject and half with people
4oNBbhu-x9c-00034-00011303-00011552 having no professional connection to the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00035-00011553-00011821 topic who offer fresh perspectives and
4oNBbhu-x9c-00036-00011822-00012202 insight only a one line topic for the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00037-00012203-00012455 panel is announced two or three weeks
4oNBbhu-x9c-00038-00012456-00012815 before the conference the panelists are
4oNBbhu-x9c-00039-00012816-00013046 given no other direction or guidance
4oNBbhu-x9c-00040-00013047-00013291 about what they should say
4oNBbhu-x9c-00041-00013293-00013636 each year the conference hosts over 100
4oNBbhu-x9c-00042-00013637-00013996 panelists and conducts over 200 sessions
4oNBbhu-x9c-00043-00013997-00014336 all sessions are free and open to the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00044-00014337-00014600 public and are held in rooms varying in
4oNBbhu-x9c-00045-00014601-00014875 capacity according to anticipated
4oNBbhu-x9c-00046-00014876-00015313 popularity from 50 seats to 2000 the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00047-00015315-00015563 total annual attendance of all the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00048-00015563-00015869 events at the 62nd Conference on world
4oNBbhu-x9c-00049-00015869-00016228 affairs in April 2010 was estimated to
4oNBbhu-x9c-00050-00016229-00016658 be over 92,000 numerous distinguished
4oNBbhu-x9c-00051-00016659-00016933 people have served as panelists over the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00052-00016934-00017269 years including patch Adams Betty Dodson
4oNBbhu-x9c-00053-00017270-00017530 buckminster fuller Adam Hochschild
4oNBbhu-x9c-00054-00017531-00017900 Arianna Huffington and Ian Akko molly
4oNBbhu-x9c-00055-00017901-00018197 ivins henry kissinger paul krugman
4oNBbhu-x9c-00056-00018198-00018547 george mcgovern ralph nader yet zachary
4oNBbhu-x9c-00057-00018548-00018869 beam eleanor roosevelt Studs Terkel and
4oNBbhu-x9c-00058-00018870-00019341 ted turner
4oNBbhu-x9c-00059-00019342-00019503 you
4oNBbhu-x9c-00060-00019504-00020285 topic 2015-16 controversy
4oNBbhu-x9c-00061-00020286-00020645 in 2015 the conference on world affairs
4oNBbhu-x9c-00062-00020646-00020918 was in the local news surrounding the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00063-00020919-00021170 appointment of a new faculty director
4oNBbhu-x9c-00064-00021171-00021539 John Griffin this included the former
4oNBbhu-x9c-00065-00021540-00021665 community chair
4oNBbhu-x9c-00066-00021666-00021908 Jane butcher announcing that she would
4oNBbhu-x9c-00067-00021909-00022228 no longer participate in the conference
4oNBbhu-x9c-00068-00022229-00022589 to opinion pieces were written by Daily
4oNBbhu-x9c-00069-00022590-00022853 Camera editorial page editor Dave
4oNBbhu-x9c-00070-00022854-00023243 Krieger they were titled now that it's
4oNBbhu-x9c-00071-00023244-00023663 broken how to fix the CWA
4oNBbhu-x9c-00072-00023664-00024251 end coup d'etat at CWA Kriegers second
4oNBbhu-x9c-00073-00024252-00024494 editorial previously linked is a
4oNBbhu-x9c-00074-00024495-00024785 response to the guest opinion by Cu
4oNBbhu-x9c-00075-00024786-00025067 Boulder's Chancellor Phil de Stefano
4oNBbhu-x9c-00076-00025068-00025388 written in support of the CW A's new
4oNBbhu-x9c-00077-00025389-00025777 director John Griffin since that time
4oNBbhu-x9c-00078-00025779-00026020 and as d'stefano promised in his
4oNBbhu-x9c-00079-00026022-00026276 editorial a committee was formed in the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00080-00026277-00026573 summer of 2015 and tasked with the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00081-00026574-00026839 development of a strategic plan for the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00082-00026841-00027245 new conference on world affairs CWA
4oNBbhu-x9c-00083-00027245-00027551 director emeritus Jim Palmer wrote this
4oNBbhu-x9c-00084-00027552-00027764 guests opinion for the camera in
4oNBbhu-x9c-00085-00027764-00028061 response to the assertion that the CWA
4oNBbhu-x9c-00086-00028062-00028439 had never had a strategic plan
4oNBbhu-x9c-00087-00028439-00028700 in addition to some volunteer leaders
4oNBbhu-x9c-00088-00028701-00029045 leaving the conference some CWA staff
4oNBbhu-x9c-00089-00029045-00029462 also departed staff members Brian knew
4oNBbhu-x9c-00090-00029463-00029770 Casey Koehler and Piper Jackson Seve
4oNBbhu-x9c-00091-00029772-00029971 resigned throughout the period of
4oNBbhu-x9c-00092-00029972-00030406 November 2014 to April 2015 until
4oNBbhu-x9c-00093-00030407-00030743 recently the one remaining staff member
4oNBbhu-x9c-00094-00030744-00030998 Maura Clare was on administrative leave
4oNBbhu-x9c-00095-00030999-00031333 since April while Human Resources issues
4oNBbhu-x9c-00096-00031335-00031765 were under investigation by ciues Office
4oNBbhu-x9c-00097-00031766-00032060 of Institutional equity and compliance
4oNBbhu-x9c-00098-00032061-00032498 Oh ie see more Eclair is no longer an
4oNBbhu-x9c-00099-00032499-00032902 employee as of December 2015
4oNBbhu-x9c-00100-00032903-00033280 in the fall of 2015 Stephanie Rudy was
4oNBbhu-x9c-00101-00033281-00033529 elected by the volunteers to replace
4oNBbhu-x9c-00102-00033530-00033923 Jane butcher she and faculty director
4oNBbhu-x9c-00103-00033924-00034189 John Griffin assembled a committee made
4oNBbhu-x9c-00104-00034190-00034460 up of both veteran volunteers and new
4oNBbhu-x9c-00105-00034461-00034901 ones to prepare the 2016 conference the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00106-00034902-00035204 lineup for the 2016 conference was
4oNBbhu-x9c-00107-00035205-00035563 announced in March 2016 participant list
4oNBbhu-x9c-00108-00035564-00035851 and includes both veteran participants
4oNBbhu-x9c-00109-00035852-00036079 and new ones as has been the past
4oNBbhu-x9c-00110-00036080-00036505 practice the 2016 conference will be
4oNBbhu-x9c-00111-00036506-00036982 conducted April 4 to 8 the CWA is
4oNBbhu-x9c-00112-00036983-00037240 governed by a board selected by both
4oNBbhu-x9c-00113-00037241-00037460 community volunteers and by the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00114-00037461-00037754 university administration and includes
4oNBbhu-x9c-00115-00037755-00038083 volunteers faculty members and students
4oNBbhu-x9c-00116-00038084-00038508 one
4oNBbhu-x9c-00117-00038509-00038672 you
4oNBbhu-x9c-00118-00038673-00039143 topic cinema interruptus
4oNBbhu-x9c-00119-00039144-00039318 you
4oNBbhu-x9c-00120-00039319-00039570 one of the events of the conference as
4oNBbhu-x9c-00121-00039571-00039840 the cinema interruptus hosted for many
4oNBbhu-x9c-00122-00039841-00040248 years by film critic Roger Ebert Ebert
4oNBbhu-x9c-00123-00040249-00040506 selected one movie and showed it late
4oNBbhu-x9c-00124-00040507-00040731 afternoon at the beginning of the week
4oNBbhu-x9c-00125-00040732-00041142 in a normal uninterrupted way then for a
4oNBbhu-x9c-00126-00041143-00041370 total of eight hours spread over the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00127-00041371-00041637 following four afternoons the movie was
4oNBbhu-x9c-00128-00041638-00041864 dissected almost on a frame-by-frame
4oNBbhu-x9c-00129-00041865-00042026 basis
4oNBbhu-x9c-00130-00042027-00042321 Ebert or anybody else in the audience
4oNBbhu-x9c-00131-00042322-00042606 could pause the movie at any point and
4oNBbhu-x9c-00132-00042607-00042897 comment about any aspect plot points
4oNBbhu-x9c-00133-00042898-00043185 acting or directing techniques camera
4oNBbhu-x9c-00134-00043186-00043541 movement frame composition etc
4oNBbhu-x9c-00135-00043542-00043920 Roger Ebert moderated cinema interruptus
4oNBbhu-x9c-00136-00043921-00044547 from 1969 to 2006 in 2008 he shared an
4oNBbhu-x9c-00137-00044548-00044933 explanation on the program's beginnings
4oNBbhu-x9c-00138-00044934-00045362 this all began for me in about 1969 when
4oNBbhu-x9c-00139-00045363-00045614 I started teaching a film class in the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00140-00045615-00045863 University of Chicago's Fine Arts
4oNBbhu-x9c-00141-00045864-00046247 program I knew a Chicago film critic
4oNBbhu-x9c-00142-00046248-00046547 teacher and Booker named John West who
4oNBbhu-x9c-00143-00046548-00046766 lived in a wondrous apartment filled
4oNBbhu-x9c-00144-00046767-00047045 with film prints projectors books
4oNBbhu-x9c-00145-00047046-00047381 posters and stills you know how football
4oNBbhu-x9c-00146-00047382-00047783 coaches use a stop action 16 millimeters
4oNBbhu-x9c-00147-00047784-00048236 projector to study game films he asked
4oNBbhu-x9c-00148-00048237-00048530 me you can use that approach to study
4oNBbhu-x9c-00149-00048531-00048875 films just pause the film and think
4oNBbhu-x9c-00150-00048876-00049163 about what you see you ought to try it
4oNBbhu-x9c-00151-00049164-00049619 with your film class I did the results
4oNBbhu-x9c-00152-00049620-00049973 were beyond my imagination I wasn't the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00153-00049974-00050171 teacher and my students weren't the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00154-00050172-00050434 audience we were all in this together
4oNBbhu-x9c-00155-00050435-00050645 the ground rules
4oNBbhu-x9c-00156-00050646-00051044 anybody could call out stop and discuss
4oNBbhu-x9c-00157-00051045-00051272 what we were looking at or whatever had
4oNBbhu-x9c-00158-00051273-00051596 just occurred to them a couple of years
4oNBbhu-x9c-00159-00051597-00051890 later when I started doing shot by shots
4oNBbhu-x9c-00160-00051891-00052145 at the conference on world affairs at
4oNBbhu-x9c-00161-00052146-00052429 the University of Colorado Boulder the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00162-00052430-00052658 conference founder Howard Hickman
4oNBbhu-x9c-00163-00052659-00053054 described this process democracy in the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00164-00053054-00053408 dark later he gave it a name cinema
4oNBbhu-x9c-00165-00053409-00053513 interruptus
4oNBbhu-x9c-00166-00053514-00053816 perhaps it sounds grueling but in fact
4oNBbhu-x9c-00167-00053816-00054091 it can be exciting and almost hypnotic
4oNBbhu-x9c-00168-00054091-00054485 at Boulder for more than 30 years I made
4oNBbhu-x9c-00169-00054486-00054707 my way through a film for two hours
4oNBbhu-x9c-00170-00054708-00054944 every afternoon for a week and the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00171-00054945-00055124 sessions had to be moved to an
4oNBbhu-x9c-00172-00055125-00055379 auditorium to accommodate attendants
4oNBbhu-x9c-00173-00055379-00055623 that approached a thousand
4oNBbhu-x9c-00174-00055624-00055879 while Ebert was recovering from cancer
4oNBbhu-x9c-00175-00055880-00056354 surgeries in 2007 and 2008 roger ebert
4oNBbhu-x9c-00176-00056355-00056662 dot-com founding editor and CWA
4oNBbhu-x9c-00177-00056663-00056942 participant Jim Emerson stepped in to
4oNBbhu-x9c-00178-00056943-00057157 moderate during his absence
4oNBbhu-x9c-00179-00057158-00057615 Ebert returned for 2009 and 2010 but
4oNBbhu-x9c-00180-00057616-00057863 mainly as a contributor using his
4oNBbhu-x9c-00181-00057864-00058085 computer as his voice in order to
4oNBbhu-x9c-00182-00058086-00058535 participate in 2011 Ebert announced that
4oNBbhu-x9c-00183-00058536-00058769 he would not be returning an Emerson
4oNBbhu-x9c-00184-00058770-00059126 would carry on as moderator the cinema
4oNBbhu-x9c-00185-00059127-00059328 interrupt his film viewing process
4oNBbhu-x9c-00186-00059329-00059723 started in 1975 and continues to the
4oNBbhu-x9c-00187-00059724-00059979 present
4ob8r6wjRvg-00000-00000024-00000254 good morning uh good afternoon good
4ob8r6wjRvg-00001-00000256-00000351 evening everybody
4ob8r6wjRvg-00002-00000352-00000638 uh welcome to this webinar uh on the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00003-00000639-00000703 role of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00004-00000704-00000878 social enterprises in advancing the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00005-00000880-00001031 sustainable development goal
4ob8r6wjRvg-00006-00001032-00001231 my name is yogesh ghori i'm a senior
4ob8r6wjRvg-00007-00001232-00001335 program staff
4ob8r6wjRvg-00008-00001336-00001487 at the kodi international institute at
4ob8r6wjRvg-00009-00001488-00001695 san francis xavier university
4ob8r6wjRvg-00010-00001696-00001998 in antigonish nova scotia canada and i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00011-00002000-00002118 welcome you all
4ob8r6wjRvg-00012-00002119-00002526 to this uh to this webinar
4ob8r6wjRvg-00013-00002527-00002883 uh let me first begin by
4ob8r6wjRvg-00014-00002884-00003206 acknowledging uh that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00015-00003207-00003390 that saint francis xavier university
4ob8r6wjRvg-00016-00003392-00003543 where where i am sitting right now is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00017-00003544-00003631 situated in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00018-00003632-00003919 mcmaki the unseated territory of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00019-00003920-00004111 mi'kmaq people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00020-00004112-00004438 i also realize that we are joining in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00021-00004439-00004495 from
4ob8r6wjRvg-00022-00004496-00004670 various different lands and and we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00023-00004671-00004822 acknowledge uh the traditional
4ob8r6wjRvg-00024-00004823-00005070 caretakers and owners of those lands as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00025-00005071-00005151 well
4ob8r6wjRvg-00026-00005152-00005438 uh let me first uh call on uh we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00027-00005439-00005622 organizing this uh this webinar in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00028-00005623-00005799 collaboration with the the atlantic
4ob8r6wjRvg-00029-00005800-00005967 council for international cooperation
4ob8r6wjRvg-00030-00005968-00006070 acic
4ob8r6wjRvg-00031-00006071-00006270 and and uh we have a colleague uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00032-00006271-00006470 janelle from there uh so i would welcome
4ob8r6wjRvg-00033-00006472-00006583 her first uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00034-00006584-00006831 to uh talk about the international
4ob8r6wjRvg-00035-00006831-00006967 development week that we are observing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00036-00006968-00007006 uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00037-00007008-00007310 uh this week uh and the focus of this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00038-00007311-00007439 year's uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00039-00007440-00007623 and the theme of this year's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00040-00007623-00007742 international development week so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00041-00007743-00007910 general over to you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00042-00007911-00008095 thank you yogesh thanks everyone for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00043-00008095-00008239 having me it's great to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00044-00008240-00008574 be here today and uh um acic is very
4ob8r6wjRvg-00045-00008575-00008639 happy to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00046-00008640-00008871 to have cody international institute as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00047-00008872-00008959 a member
4ob8r6wjRvg-00048-00008960-00009159 um so i'll just speak very briefly about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00049-00009160-00009399 acic and then about international
4ob8r6wjRvg-00050-00009400-00009663 development week um and i also want to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00051-00009664-00009767 mention that i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00052-00009768-00010095 do uh in the land of magma uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00053-00010096-00010423 and which is also known as nova scotia
4ob8r6wjRvg-00054-00010424-00010599 so the atlantic council for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00055-00010600-00010742 international cooperation
4ob8r6wjRvg-00056-00010743-00011006 also known as acic is a coalition of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00057-00011007-00011095 individuals
4ob8r6wjRvg-00058-00011096-00011310 organizations and institutions working
4ob8r6wjRvg-00059-00011311-00011487 in the atlantic region
4ob8r6wjRvg-00060-00011488-00011751 to build and bought model just equitable
4ob8r6wjRvg-00061-00011752-00011910 and sustainable communities
4ob8r6wjRvg-00062-00011911-00012231 both locally and globally acic connects
4ob8r6wjRvg-00063-00012232-00012342 leadership
4ob8r6wjRvg-00064-00012343-00012527 across generations by strengthening
4ob8r6wjRvg-00065-00012528-00012695 members and partners
4ob8r6wjRvg-00066-00012696-00012855 bridging dialogue and building
4ob8r6wjRvg-00067-00012856-00013030 networking and learning opportunities
4ob8r6wjRvg-00068-00013031-00013279 and acic also represents and amplifies
4ob8r6wjRvg-00069-00013280-00013455 the voice of atlantic canada
4ob8r6wjRvg-00070-00013456-00013735 and connects the atlantic with other
4ob8r6wjRvg-00071-00013736-00013799 provincial
4ob8r6wjRvg-00072-00013800-00014103 national and international stakeholders
4ob8r6wjRvg-00073-00014104-00014422 so i uh i'm also here because it's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00074-00014423-00014622 international development week
4ob8r6wjRvg-00075-00014623-00014879 and i'm very happy that cody is hosting
4ob8r6wjRvg-00076-00014880-00014975 this event
4ob8r6wjRvg-00077-00014976-00015303 during this week also known as idw
4ob8r6wjRvg-00078-00015304-00015519 and it's an annual initiative that's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00079-00015519-00015663 held during the first full week of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00080-00015663-00015958 february and it started back in 1991
4ob8r6wjRvg-00081-00015959-00016238 to engage canadians on global issues and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00082-00016240-00016463 engaging other people too
4ob8r6wjRvg-00083-00016464-00016727 so idw brings together canadians from
4ob8r6wjRvg-00084-00016728-00016871 coast to coast to coast
4ob8r6wjRvg-00085-00016872-00017111 and highlights the role that canadians
4ob8r6wjRvg-00086-00017112-00017191 play in building
4ob8r6wjRvg-00087-00017192-00017367 better more equitable just and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00088-00017368-00017615 sustainable communities
4ob8r6wjRvg-00089-00017616-00017830 and and the work that is happening by
4ob8r6wjRvg-00090-00017831-00018079 all of you all over the world
4ob8r6wjRvg-00091-00018080-00018383 and this year we have a range of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00092-00018384-00018583 engagement opportunities including
4ob8r6wjRvg-00093-00018584-00018879 facebook live concerts musical events
4ob8r6wjRvg-00094-00018880-00018943 arts
4ob8r6wjRvg-00095-00018944-00019150 contests panel discussions such as the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00096-00019151-00019422 one you're participating in today
4ob8r6wjRvg-00097-00019423-00019735 uh poetry competitions online trivia
4ob8r6wjRvg-00098-00019736-00019943 and blogs and i'll put a link in the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00099-00019944-00020086 chat that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00100-00020087-00020511 links to all the events that acic is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00101-00020512-00020743 is either promoting or help helping to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00102-00020744-00020886 host
4ob8r6wjRvg-00103-00020887-00021143 um and you can participate and learn
4ob8r6wjRvg-00104-00021144-00021199 more about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00105-00021200-00021375 why the sustainable development goals
4ob8r6wjRvg-00106-00021376-00021694 are important by following
4ob8r6wjRvg-00107-00021695-00022014 idw atlantic and hashtag go for the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00108-00022015-00022222 goals and that's on facebook twitter
4ob8r6wjRvg-00109-00022223-00022550 instagram and linkedin and there's lots
4ob8r6wjRvg-00110-00022551-00022599 of events
4ob8r6wjRvg-00111-00022600-00022886 happenings and most of them are virtual
4ob8r6wjRvg-00112-00022887-00022927 uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00113-00022928-00023143 so feel free to check out our website to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00114-00023144-00023335 see them all there
4ob8r6wjRvg-00115-00023336-00023591 and uh i will finish there and once
4ob8r6wjRvg-00116-00023592-00023783 again say thanks for having me
4ob8r6wjRvg-00117-00023784-00024047 um i have to be one of the tech people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00118-00024048-00024294 support for another idw event so i will
4ob8r6wjRvg-00119-00024295-00024358 have to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00120-00024359-00024678 leave in about 10 minutes myself to to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00121-00024679-00024750 go to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00122-00024751-00024975 set that up but once again thank you so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00123-00024976-00025071 much for having me
4ob8r6wjRvg-00124-00025072-00025399 and i hope you have a great event
4ob8r6wjRvg-00125-00025400-00025622 thank you thank you general and i think
4ob8r6wjRvg-00126-00025623-00025806 uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00127-00025807-00026039 the silver lining of this this pandemic
4ob8r6wjRvg-00128-00026039-00026239 is that now we can we can connect with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00129-00026239-00026311 colleagues
4ob8r6wjRvg-00130-00026312-00026590 all across the world so when we talk
4ob8r6wjRvg-00131-00026591-00026743 about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00132-00026744-00026951 canada's role and canada's contribution
4ob8r6wjRvg-00133-00026952-00027118 to to global development international
4ob8r6wjRvg-00134-00027119-00027231 development
4ob8r6wjRvg-00135-00027232-00027546 uh like what we have today you know uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00136-00027547-00027670 249
4ob8r6wjRvg-00137-00027672-00027887 people registered from all across all
4ob8r6wjRvg-00138-00027888-00027983 across the world
4ob8r6wjRvg-00139-00027983-00028270 and i see close to 70 people are already
4ob8r6wjRvg-00140-00028272-00028343 there in the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00141-00028344-00028590 in the in the zoom call right now so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00142-00028591-00028743 with this we have the opportunity to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00143-00028744-00028839 actually
4ob8r6wjRvg-00144-00028839-00029070 not only talk about among canadians uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00145-00029072-00029246 the contributions we have made
4ob8r6wjRvg-00146-00029247-00029414 for for international development but
4ob8r6wjRvg-00147-00029416-00029607 get those voices in the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00148-00029608-00030023 uh in in the meeting uh so now uh let me
4ob8r6wjRvg-00149-00030024-00030070 um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00150-00030072-00030231 first of all i'm very very excited to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00151-00030232-00030446 see the level and level of engagement uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00152-00030447-00030670 for this uh for this webinar this shows
4ob8r6wjRvg-00153-00030672-00031023 that the topic is of of interest
4ob8r6wjRvg-00154-00031024-00031327 now let me call uh uh my co-host and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00155-00031327-00031614 and uh facilitator of the courses that i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00156-00031616-00031743 teach here at the kodi institute
4ob8r6wjRvg-00157-00031744-00031799 including
4ob8r6wjRvg-00158-00031800-00032223 the course that that him and i developed
4ob8r6wjRvg-00159-00032224-00032551 on social enterprises uh farook jiva
4ob8r6wjRvg-00160-00032552-00032790 um he faruk and i have been working for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00161-00032791-00032855 the last
4ob8r6wjRvg-00162-00032856-00033190 15 years uh including uh 11 years at
4ob8r6wjRvg-00163-00033191-00033535 kodi uh he's a social entrepreneur uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00164-00033536-00033671 himself uh so i'll
4ob8r6wjRvg-00165-00033672-00033846 let farooq speak a little bit about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00166-00033847-00034023 himself and and and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00167-00034024-00034327 the course uh that we teach and uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00168-00034328-00034551 about the participants uh and and some
4ob8r6wjRvg-00169-00034552-00034718 of them you will meet uh later
4ob8r6wjRvg-00170-00034719-00035167 later uh during this meeting so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00171-00035168-00035351 well far you yogesh i'm not sure i'm
4ob8r6wjRvg-00172-00035352-00035495 going to say very much about myself but
4ob8r6wjRvg-00173-00035496-00035639 what i what i would like to just take a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00174-00035640-00035727 moment to do
4ob8r6wjRvg-00175-00035728-00035951 is uh you know i think first and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00176-00035952-00036095 foremost to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00177-00036096-00036239 acknowledge the incredible work that the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00178-00036240-00036446 kodi institute has been doing in so many
4ob8r6wjRvg-00179-00036447-00036511 different
4ob8r6wjRvg-00180-00036512-00036718 areas of the of the kind of work that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00181-00036719-00036855 do the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00182-00036856-00036983 incredible range of international
4ob8r6wjRvg-00183-00036984-00037127 partnerships we have i'm looking through
4ob8r6wjRvg-00184-00037128-00037287 the the list of people attending and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00185-00037288-00037415 there's so many different alumni
4ob8r6wjRvg-00186-00037416-00037615 past course participants here as well so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00187-00037616-00037830 it's wonderful to see that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00188-00037831-00037943 as your guest mentioned we've been
4ob8r6wjRvg-00189-00037944-00038135 working together for the last 15 years
4ob8r6wjRvg-00190-00038136-00038279 together now
4ob8r6wjRvg-00191-00038280-00038487 and we've developed a whole suite of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00192-00038488-00038599 courses that the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00193-00038600-00038911 kodi institute are offering we try and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00194-00038912-00038999 make sure that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00195-00039000-00039295 create courses that have a really strong
4ob8r6wjRvg-00196-00039296-00039415 balance between the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00197-00039416-00039655 sort of practitioner-driven perspective
4ob8r6wjRvg-00198-00039656-00039759 along with the sort of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00199-00039760-00039918 theory that underpins a lot of the work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00200-00039919-00040102 that needs to happen and we try to make
4ob8r6wjRvg-00201-00040103-00040215 sure that it's really relevant for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00202-00040216-00040374 people from around the world
4ob8r6wjRvg-00203-00040375-00040567 one of the big focus for us over the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00204-00040568-00040718 last little while is making sure that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00205-00040719-00040759 it's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00206-00040760-00040967 equally relevant for canadians in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00207-00040968-00041207 atlanta canada across the country
4ob8r6wjRvg-00208-00041208-00041351 as well as participants attending
4ob8r6wjRvg-00209-00041352-00041511 globally and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00210-00041512-00041662 the social enterprise course that will
4ob8r6wjRvg-00211-00041663-00041855 be kicking off from the first week of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00212-00041856-00041902 march
4ob8r6wjRvg-00213-00041903-00042127 is no exception it's going to be the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00214-00042128-00042262 second time that we are teaching this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00215-00042263-00042455 course and we designed it from the very
4ob8r6wjRvg-00216-00042456-00042558 beginning
4ob8r6wjRvg-00217-00042559-00042871 to be both local and global uh this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00218-00042872-00043046 course is going to be online
4ob8r6wjRvg-00219-00043047-00043207 uh so unlike the other ones that we've
4ob8r6wjRvg-00220-00043208-00043335 had to do where we've had the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00221-00043336-00043446 opportunity to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00222-00043447-00043735 welcome everyone to antigonish uh we see
4ob8r6wjRvg-00223-00043736-00043790 this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00224-00043791-00044015 obviously as a as a disappointment
4ob8r6wjRvg-00225-00044016-00044215 because antigonish and nova scotia is a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00226-00044216-00044383 beautiful part of the world host people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00227-00044384-00044471 in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00228-00044472-00044695 uh but i think the the online platform
4ob8r6wjRvg-00229-00044696-00044846 is going to give us the opportunity to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00230-00044847-00044999 widen the conversation have
4ob8r6wjRvg-00231-00045000-00045174 more practitioners joining us from
4ob8r6wjRvg-00232-00045175-00045335 different parts of the world
4ob8r6wjRvg-00233-00045336-00045551 and hopefully have more participants
4ob8r6wjRvg-00234-00045552-00045774 attending the course as well
4ob8r6wjRvg-00235-00045775-00045927 we've structured the social enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-00236-00045928-00046143 course so that it runs over a course of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00237-00046144-00046287 seven weeks
4ob8r6wjRvg-00238-00046288-00046583 and what we're hoping to do is uh make
4ob8r6wjRvg-00239-00046584-00046702 sure that we can
4ob8r6wjRvg-00240-00046703-00046902 really create value for our participants
4ob8r6wjRvg-00241-00046903-00047071 from whatever part of the world they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00242-00047072-00047190 in and whatever
4ob8r6wjRvg-00243-00047191-00047367 stage of the social enterprise journey
4ob8r6wjRvg-00244-00047368-00047502 they may be on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00245-00047503-00047662 having established two social
4ob8r6wjRvg-00246-00047663-00047846 enterprises myself over the last little
4ob8r6wjRvg-00247-00047847-00048015 while having been involved in incubating
4ob8r6wjRvg-00248-00048016-00048174 so many of them through my work in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00249-00048175-00048215 different
4ob8r6wjRvg-00250-00048216-00048479 places it's definitely a fascinating
4ob8r6wjRvg-00251-00048480-00048655 area that we want to unpack and explore
4ob8r6wjRvg-00252-00048656-00048790 with you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00253-00048791-00048951 and the seven week online course will
4ob8r6wjRvg-00254-00048952-00049167 help us to be able to do this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00255-00049168-00049462 but for today we we have uh you know the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00256-00049463-00049567 privilege of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00257-00049568-00049823 inviting three of our alumni back to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00258-00049824-00050030 have a conversation with us
4ob8r6wjRvg-00259-00050031-00050343 uh magali has been doing some incredible
4ob8r6wjRvg-00260-00050344-00050471 work in haiti
4ob8r6wjRvg-00261-00050472-00050662 and she was one of the alumni from our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00262-00050663-00050918 social enterprise course in 2019
4ob8r6wjRvg-00263-00050919-00051151 and pauline whom you'll hear uh i'm from
4ob8r6wjRvg-00264-00051152-00051319 as well is doing some incredible work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00265-00051320-00051654 in in nova scotia and uh last but not
4ob8r6wjRvg-00266-00051655-00051863 least is fatih who
4ob8r6wjRvg-00267-00051864-00051990 attended one of our livelihoods and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00268-00051991-00052190 markets courses which actually created
4ob8r6wjRvg-00269-00052191-00052382 the inspiration for us to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00270-00052383-00052550 to create the social enterprise course
4ob8r6wjRvg-00271-00052551-00052703 as a separate offering
4ob8r6wjRvg-00272-00052704-00052935 and i think also inspired um fati to go
4ob8r6wjRvg-00273-00052936-00053023 off and do what you've
4ob8r6wjRvg-00274-00053024-00053366 done in in west africa we have the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00275-00053367-00053582 opportunity to to hear their stories and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00276-00053583-00053711 what i would love to do is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00277-00053712-00053919 you know spend as much time as possible
4ob8r6wjRvg-00278-00053920-00054054 delving into their own journeys
4ob8r6wjRvg-00279-00054055-00054247 understanding a little bit more about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00280-00054248-00054366 some of the things that they've come
4ob8r6wjRvg-00281-00054367-00054582 across and some advice and tips they
4ob8r6wjRvg-00282-00054583-00054750 might have to share
4ob8r6wjRvg-00283-00054751-00054911 um yogesh if you want to navigate that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00284-00054912-00055079 conversation we can jump in along the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00285-00055079-00055159 way
4ob8r6wjRvg-00286-00055160-00055503 yes thank you uh and thank you for uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00287-00055504-00055815 for providing that that context of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00288-00055816-00056023 local and and global and that's what i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00289-00056024-00056223 think through these webinars we will try
4ob8r6wjRvg-00290-00056224-00056350 to showcase as well
4ob8r6wjRvg-00291-00056351-00056663 let me first uh introduce our um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00292-00056664-00056894 our panelists uh and then farooq and i'm
4ob8r6wjRvg-00293-00056895-00057038 very proud to say that they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00294-00057039-00057238 graduates of of the courses that we have
4ob8r6wjRvg-00295-00057239-00057375 taught over the years
4ob8r6wjRvg-00296-00057376-00057566 uh let me start with the with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00297-00057567-00057871 farthest so let me introduce uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00298-00057872-00058191 fati uh abigail abdullahi uh she is the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00299-00058191-00058311 executive director
4ob8r6wjRvg-00300-00058312-00058623 of widows and orphans movement uh and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00301-00058624-00058823 she's the national director it's a it's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00302-00058824-00058982 a reputable non-governmental
4ob8r6wjRvg-00303-00058983-00059087 organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-00304-00059088-00059407 founded by her mother in in 1993
4ob8r6wjRvg-00305-00059408-00059830 and she she took over uh in 2013
4ob8r6wjRvg-00306-00059832-00060047 and and her her role is she starts to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00307-00060048-00060223 advocate for the rights of widows and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00308-00060224-00060423 economically
4ob8r6wjRvg-00309-00060424-00060615 to economically empower a woman and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00310-00060616-00060735 young people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00311-00060736-00061054 she's a dynamic leader passionate about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00312-00061055-00061382 bringing change uh in in her community
4ob8r6wjRvg-00313-00061383-00061735 and and country she came here in 2013
4ob8r6wjRvg-00314-00061736-00061879 and i i remember
4ob8r6wjRvg-00315-00061879-00062103 after taking the the livelihoods and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00316-00062104-00062287 market scores that farooq and i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00317-00062288-00062494 uh facilitated she said that you know a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00318-00062495-00062623 lot of what you talk
4ob8r6wjRvg-00319-00062624-00062871 uh taught us in terms of the value chain
4ob8r6wjRvg-00320-00062872-00062999 in terms of the markets and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00321-00063000-00063230 the social enterprise a lot of this we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00322-00063232-00063406 already do but we never call it that way
4ob8r6wjRvg-00323-00063407-00063606 we never call what we do as a social
4ob8r6wjRvg-00324-00063607-00063694 enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-00325-00063695-00063911 so you have provided us this framework
4ob8r6wjRvg-00326-00063912-00064103 and now i'm going to go and and really
4ob8r6wjRvg-00327-00064104-00064263 do it in a structured way
4ob8r6wjRvg-00328-00064264-00064430 and that's what she has she has done so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00329-00064432-00064615 we will hear her story
4ob8r6wjRvg-00330-00064616-00064782 how she has she has created this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00331-00064783-00064935 enterprise that sells
4ob8r6wjRvg-00332-00064936-00065126 the products of those women
4ob8r6wjRvg-00333-00065127-00065238 internationally
4ob8r6wjRvg-00334-00065239-00065615 and she just got uh in an investment of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00335-00065616-00065719 a million uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00336-00065720-00065943 cds ghanaian cds that we would like to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00337-00065944-00066119 hear how she started with the nonprofit
4ob8r6wjRvg-00338-00066120-00066343 and build this successful enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-00339-00066344-00066631 uh is magali here magali have you joined
4ob8r6wjRvg-00340-00066632-00066894 us
4ob8r6wjRvg-00341-00066895-00067215 yes okay welcome maggie again
4ob8r6wjRvg-00342-00067216-00067511 a great uh privilege for me to introduce
4ob8r6wjRvg-00343-00067512-00067606 magali
4ob8r6wjRvg-00344-00067607-00067887 uh she is the president and ceo of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00345-00067888-00067975 caribbean
4ob8r6wjRvg-00346-00067976-00068255 craft and as farouk said she attended
4ob8r6wjRvg-00347-00068256-00068350 our course
4ob8r6wjRvg-00348-00068351-00068726 in 20 2019 uh she is a real advocate for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00349-00068727-00068799 change
4ob8r6wjRvg-00350-00068800-00068950 in the current business structures in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00351-00068951-00069215 haiti she believes in creation of social
4ob8r6wjRvg-00352-00069216-00069438 enterprises is the only way to reduce
4ob8r6wjRvg-00353-00069439-00069655 social gaps and and and create
4ob8r6wjRvg-00354-00069656-00069815 opportunities for the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00355-00069816-00070167 unemployed citizens of haiti
4ob8r6wjRvg-00356-00070168-00070494 maggie has spent uh over 20 years
4ob8r6wjRvg-00357-00070495-00070767 working with er with the artisan uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00358-00070768-00070863 sector
4ob8r6wjRvg-00359-00070864-00071206 and and partnering with the ngo and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00360-00071207-00071503 uh and the state to build uh what she
4ob8r6wjRvg-00361-00071504-00071623 calls as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00362-00071624-00071935 brand haiti she's a successful uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00363-00071936-00072287 entrepreneur uh and and and her
4ob8r6wjRvg-00364-00072288-00072615 uh her infectious and enthusiasm uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00365-00072616-00072838 sharp sense of opportunity ability to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00366-00072839-00073094 build relationships across the sector
4ob8r6wjRvg-00367-00073095-00073423 and geographies and and makes her a very
4ob8r6wjRvg-00368-00073424-00073599 well known face in uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00369-00073600-00073919 in haiti so i'm so hope or we hope to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00370-00073920-00073959 hear
4ob8r6wjRvg-00371-00073960-00074191 during this this one hour that we we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00372-00074192-00074415 learn to we learn some of those uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00373-00074416-00074631 some of those uh lessons and and and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00374-00074632-00074823 best practices
4ob8r6wjRvg-00375-00074824-00075126 and last but not the least uh i have a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00376-00075127-00075175 great
4ob8r6wjRvg-00377-00075176-00075471 uh privilege and and and pleasure to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00378-00075472-00075550 introduce
4ob8r6wjRvg-00379-00075551-00075855 my colleague uh pauline mcintosh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00380-00075856-00076167 uh her and i have been together we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00381-00076168-00076367 we have we have our offices the same
4ob8r6wjRvg-00382-00076368-00076511 floor uh for the last
4ob8r6wjRvg-00383-00076512-00076791 11 years but she's been with the with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00384-00076792-00076935 the centerfx
4ob8r6wjRvg-00385-00076936-00077135 extension department for the last close
4ob8r6wjRvg-00386-00077136-00077255 to 25 years
4ob8r6wjRvg-00387-00077256-00077503 correct me if i'm wrong pauline and she
4ob8r6wjRvg-00388-00077504-00077567 is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00389-00077568-00077791 she provides leadership to the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00390-00077792-00077879 department's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00391-00077880-00078135 rural leadership program and and works
4ob8r6wjRvg-00392-00078136-00078375 with a network of community-based
4ob8r6wjRvg-00393-00078376-00078615 organizations including the one that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00394-00078616-00078694 she's going to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00395-00078695-00078919 talk about in today's presentation and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00396-00078920-00078999 that is the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00397-00079000-00079215 anti-ganesh affordable housing society
4ob8r6wjRvg-00398-00079216-00079350 and the innovative work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00399-00079351-00079703 she's doing so we have this three uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00400-00079704-00080287 uh speakers uh common connection
4ob8r6wjRvg-00401-00080288-00080455 between them is that they are all
4ob8r6wjRvg-00402-00080456-00080599 graduates of the of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00403-00080600-00080750 of the kodi institute and and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00404-00080751-00080991 certificates that that we have taught
4ob8r6wjRvg-00405-00080992-00081279 but another one is is that you know uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00406-00081280-00081311 the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00407-00081312-00081638 the key aspects uh and and then and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00408-00081639-00081918 the focus of today's talk is around how
4ob8r6wjRvg-00409-00081919-00082167 uh the social enterprises uh contribute
4ob8r6wjRvg-00410-00082168-00082406 to uh sustainable development goals
4ob8r6wjRvg-00411-00082407-00082775 and and we know there are 17 goals 169
4ob8r6wjRvg-00412-00082776-00082991 targets it can be very overwhelming when
4ob8r6wjRvg-00413-00082992-00083159 you look at it
4ob8r6wjRvg-00414-00083160-00083479 from from a global scale so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00415-00083480-00083711 what we are going to do today is is is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00416-00083712-00083894 not to talk about from from that high
4ob8r6wjRvg-00417-00083895-00084294 level but to see how these goals
4ob8r6wjRvg-00418-00084295-00084479 are localized how you can look at these
4ob8r6wjRvg-00419-00084480-00084647 problems locally and what these
4ob8r6wjRvg-00420-00084648-00084847 entrepreneurs these
4ob8r6wjRvg-00421-00084848-00085094 these organizations are trying to do how
4ob8r6wjRvg-00422-00085095-00085182 they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00423-00085183-00085359 what they are doing and and how they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00424-00085360-00085535 doing it so with that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00425-00085536-00085735 let me first and the other thing we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00426-00085736-00085894 not going to do we are not going to just
4ob8r6wjRvg-00427-00085895-00085975 like focus
4ob8r6wjRvg-00428-00085976-00086199 on defining what a social enterprise is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00429-00086200-00086382 i think that is only incidental
4ob8r6wjRvg-00430-00086383-00086615 what is important is is is what they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00431-00086616-00086687 doing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00432-00086688-00086862 how they are innovating how they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00433-00086863-00087031 getting the investments how they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00434-00087032-00087167 creating the impact how they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00435-00087168-00087367 building the partnership that aspect is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00436-00087368-00087615 is more important rather than fitting
4ob8r6wjRvg-00437-00087616-00087791 your enterprise in a nice nice
4ob8r6wjRvg-00438-00087792-00087975 definition so with that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00439-00087976-00088223 let me call again let me go the furthest
4ob8r6wjRvg-00440-00088224-00088359 because you might have some challenges
4ob8r6wjRvg-00441-00088360-00088526 in terms of internet connectivity
4ob8r6wjRvg-00442-00088527-00088831 so fati just tell us about your story in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00443-00088832-00088862 in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00444-00088863-00089199 in five to seven minutes yeah
4ob8r6wjRvg-00445-00089200-00089462 hello yogesh and thanks um for this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00446-00089463-00089726 opportunity hello to everybody
4ob8r6wjRvg-00447-00089727-00090126 um so basically i'm fati and i run a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00448-00090127-00090303 social enterprise called
4ob8r6wjRvg-00449-00090304-00090623 atara ghana limited and this is
4ob8r6wjRvg-00450-00090624-00091055 a for-profit entity
4ob8r6wjRvg-00451-00091056-00091359 and we officially started i think 2013
4ob8r6wjRvg-00452-00091360-00091494 when i came back from
4ob8r6wjRvg-00453-00091495-00091831 kodi um that was when we actually
4ob8r6wjRvg-00454-00091832-00092150 restructured it and what a tara ghana
4ob8r6wjRvg-00455-00092151-00092343 limited does basically
4ob8r6wjRvg-00456-00092344-00092671 is to focus on identifying developing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00457-00092672-00093079 and promoting indigenous value chains
4ob8r6wjRvg-00458-00093080-00093391 that are dominated by women so if
4ob8r6wjRvg-00459-00093392-00093582 if it's indigenous to us and we don't
4ob8r6wjRvg-00460-00093583-00093806 find a lot of women in that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00461-00093807-00094126 sector we don't really go into it and so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00462-00094127-00094318 currently some of the value chains we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00463-00094319-00094343 are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00464-00094344-00094647 working on is the baobab value chain
4ob8r6wjRvg-00465-00094648-00094847 the share value chain and we have the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00466-00094848-00094974 basketry among
4ob8r6wjRvg-00467-00094975-00095294 others and so for us
4ob8r6wjRvg-00468-00095295-00095687 we look at how do we ensure that we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00469-00095688-00095806 making money
4ob8r6wjRvg-00470-00095807-00096167 as a business but also
4ob8r6wjRvg-00471-00096168-00096438 we are putting money in the hands of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00472-00096439-00096591 women we are working with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00473-00096592-00096871 so first of all economically we should
4ob8r6wjRvg-00474-00096872-00096991 we should make money
4ob8r6wjRvg-00475-00096992-00097191 secondly we look at the environmental
4ob8r6wjRvg-00476-00097192-00097359 sustainability issues
4ob8r6wjRvg-00477-00097360-00097543 so most of the value chains that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00478-00097544-00097703 choose to work on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00479-00097704-00097915 should be contributing to environmental
4ob8r6wjRvg-00480-00097916-00098087 sustainability
4ob8r6wjRvg-00481-00098088-00098406 and also the processes we use in terms
4ob8r6wjRvg-00482-00098407-00098471 of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00483-00098472-00098782 developing these value chains also
4ob8r6wjRvg-00484-00098783-00099087 be sustainable practices so for instance
4ob8r6wjRvg-00485-00099088-00099143 if we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00486-00099144-00099487 work on baobab or sheer
4ob8r6wjRvg-00487-00099488-00099831 these are um value chains that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00488-00099832-00100159 we believe that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00489-00100160-00100438 by earning money from it the child
4ob8r6wjRvg-00490-00100439-00100567 element of what we do
4ob8r6wjRvg-00491-00100568-00100847 which is actually very dear to us has to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00492-00100848-00101038 do with working with widows
4ob8r6wjRvg-00493-00101039-00101362 and orphans and so as a social
4ob8r6wjRvg-00494-00101363-00101503 enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-00495-00101504-00101782 we source all our raw materials from
4ob8r6wjRvg-00496-00101783-00101918 mostly widows
4ob8r6wjRvg-00497-00101919-00102247 and orphans and we listen to them
4ob8r6wjRvg-00498-00102248-00102423 how do they think we can make this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00499-00102424-00102654 actually work for them and for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00500-00102655-00102863 the business going forward and so we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00501-00102864-00103047 work with videos because
4ob8r6wjRvg-00502-00103048-00103375 of our peculiar situation here
4ob8r6wjRvg-00503-00103376-00103630 and it might be a global situation as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00504-00103631-00103894 well for most videos
4ob8r6wjRvg-00505-00103895-00104142 internationally and both locally we know
4ob8r6wjRvg-00506-00104143-00104415 that when women lose their husbands
4ob8r6wjRvg-00507-00104416-00104671 and in some cultures they are regarded
4ob8r6wjRvg-00508-00104672-00104727 as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00509-00104728-00105007 witches and people think that they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00510-00105008-00105151 ill-like women
4ob8r6wjRvg-00511-00105152-00105399 and so that is why they have caused the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00512-00105400-00105534 death of their
4ob8r6wjRvg-00513-00105535-00105854 husbands and so society makes them go
4ob8r6wjRvg-00514-00105855-00106143 through some rights and practices
4ob8r6wjRvg-00515-00106144-00106543 that actually make them worse off and so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00516-00106544-00106766 in where we are located which is upper
4ob8r6wjRvg-00517-00106767-00107007 east and in ghana for that matter
4ob8r6wjRvg-00518-00107008-00107239 you would find that many of these women
4ob8r6wjRvg-00519-00107240-00107415 will lose the properties
4ob8r6wjRvg-00520-00107416-00107727 that they had um when they were married
4ob8r6wjRvg-00521-00107728-00107958 or when their houses were alive
4ob8r6wjRvg-00522-00107959-00108190 in the name of rice and practices or
4ob8r6wjRvg-00523-00108191-00108295 culture
4ob8r6wjRvg-00524-00108296-00108551 and some of them are actually um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00525-00108552-00108678 stripped naked
4ob8r6wjRvg-00526-00108679-00108910 and to the full glare of the public
4ob8r6wjRvg-00527-00108911-00109031 which makes them
4ob8r6wjRvg-00528-00109032-00109263 um self-isolate and do not want to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00529-00109264-00109415 mingle with people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00530-00109416-00109686 and so as a business we believe that if
4ob8r6wjRvg-00531-00109688-00109871 these women are able to earn an
4ob8r6wjRvg-00532-00109872-00110166 income then they do have a voice and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00533-00110167-00110463 they can renegotiate some of these um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00534-00110464-00110710 rights or practices mattered out to them
4ob8r6wjRvg-00535-00110711-00111031 but equally they can resist
4ob8r6wjRvg-00536-00111032-00111302 them because they are financially able
4ob8r6wjRvg-00537-00111303-00111415 to do so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00538-00111416-00111695 and from the work we have done as an ngo
4ob8r6wjRvg-00539-00111696-00111847 through widows and offense movement
4ob8r6wjRvg-00540-00111848-00111983 we've realized that in most
4ob8r6wjRvg-00541-00111983-00112158 instances when these women are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00542-00112159-00112310 economically empowered
4ob8r6wjRvg-00543-00112311-00112558 they are better able to resist most of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00544-00112559-00112710 these um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00545-00112711-00112934 practices that are mated out to them and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00546-00112935-00113071 so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00547-00113072-00113358 holistically this is how atara ghana
4ob8r6wjRvg-00548-00113359-00113543 operates we have the social value we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00549-00113544-00113678 look at the economic
4ob8r6wjRvg-00550-00113679-00113990 and we also look at the environmental um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00551-00113991-00114119 yogesh i don't know if you would want me
4ob8r6wjRvg-00552-00114120-00114263 to just go straight into some of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00553-00114264-00114566 sdgs we are targeting
4ob8r6wjRvg-00554-00114567-00114727 quickly just talk about which ones and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00555-00114728-00114910 then more questions we will ask
4ob8r6wjRvg-00556-00114911-00115254 later yeah yes
4ob8r6wjRvg-00557-00115255-00115566 so basically we work on the um we focus
4ob8r6wjRvg-00558-00115567-00115623 more on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00559-00115624-00115966 three of the sdgs one is no poverty in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00560-00115967-00116302 all its forms two is achieving gender
4ob8r6wjRvg-00561-00116303-00116519 equality and empowering all women and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00562-00116520-00116583 girls
4ob8r6wjRvg-00563-00116583-00116743 and the third one is to reduce
4ob8r6wjRvg-00564-00116744-00116919 inequality within and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00565-00116920-00117254 among countries and so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00566-00117255-00117558 through this social enterprise we we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00567-00117559-00117790 our statistics tell us that if we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00568-00117791-00117927 able to provide this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00569-00117928-00118158 income we provide for the women all year
4ob8r6wjRvg-00570-00118159-00118263 round
4ob8r6wjRvg-00571-00118264-00118502 most of them will automatically migrate
4ob8r6wjRvg-00572-00118503-00118734 from the extreme poverty gap
4ob8r6wjRvg-00573-00118735-00119063 to poor or even exceed and not
4ob8r6wjRvg-00574-00119064-00119302 be poor again and so this is how we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00575-00119303-00119399 doing it
4ob8r6wjRvg-00576-00119400-00119702 also um we focus on women so we believe
4ob8r6wjRvg-00577-00119703-00119966 in women economic empowerment so sdg
4ob8r6wjRvg-00578-00119967-00120271 five and one no poverty because
4ob8r6wjRvg-00579-00120272-00120527 once people are not poor they are able
4ob8r6wjRvg-00580-00120528-00120790 to make better decisions they are able
4ob8r6wjRvg-00581-00120791-00120847 to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00582-00120848-00121102 demand for their right so in a nutshell
4ob8r6wjRvg-00583-00121103-00121263 this is what we do
4ob8r6wjRvg-00584-00121264-00121551 thank you fati and then i had the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00585-00121552-00121839 opportunity to visit fatih many times
4ob8r6wjRvg-00586-00121840-00122071 as she was going through this journey
4ob8r6wjRvg-00587-00122072-00122263 and what would be really interesting
4ob8r6wjRvg-00588-00122264-00122502 fati for you to share later on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00589-00122503-00122727 what women value in terms of their their
4ob8r6wjRvg-00590-00122728-00122863 empowerment the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00591-00122864-00123158 the changes you see uh in them as they
4ob8r6wjRvg-00592-00123159-00123254 get this this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00593-00123255-00123471 this access to opportunity and access to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00594-00123472-00123583 sustainable income
4ob8r6wjRvg-00595-00123583-00123895 so hold on for that let me go to uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00596-00123896-00124247 lee thank you so much
4ob8r6wjRvg-00597-00124248-00124407 thank you so much for having me here
4ob8r6wjRvg-00598-00124408-00124558 with you all today i hope you can hear
4ob8r6wjRvg-00599-00124559-00124727 me well
4ob8r6wjRvg-00600-00124728-00124983 uh i have um i really advise the work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00601-00124983-00125214 that you do fatty this is amazing uh you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00602-00125215-00125327 inspire me
4ob8r6wjRvg-00603-00125328-00125590 so uh you know you know just to talk a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00604-00125591-00125751 little about what the company that i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00605-00125752-00125807 have
4ob8r6wjRvg-00606-00125808-00126119 um started already 16 years ago i feel
4ob8r6wjRvg-00607-00126120-00126383 old uh all this started because there's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00608-00126383-00126431 a big
4ob8r6wjRvg-00609-00126432-00126710 gap in haiti and uh growing up it was
4ob8r6wjRvg-00610-00126711-00126854 like i was programmed to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00611-00126855-00127078 know that it was normal to to evolve in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00612-00127079-00127302 isolated groups and knowing that um you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00613-00127303-00127543 were born in a you know in a in a place
4ob8r6wjRvg-00614-00127544-00127647 and you could die in that place
4ob8r6wjRvg-00615-00127648-00127775 regardless of your education and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00616-00127776-00127919 opportunity and zero opportunity was
4ob8r6wjRvg-00617-00127920-00128071 given to anyone
4ob8r6wjRvg-00618-00128072-00128310 so this became a very big concern as i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00619-00128311-00128463 was growing up because i thought it was
4ob8r6wjRvg-00620-00128464-00128678 unacceptable i i i was trying to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00621-00128679-00128758 understand
4ob8r6wjRvg-00622-00128759-00128966 why is it that nobody would have the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00623-00128967-00129110 chance to emerge even if they were
4ob8r6wjRvg-00624-00129111-00129239 willing to work or
4ob8r6wjRvg-00625-00129240-00129527 willing to learn so um we started
4ob8r6wjRvg-00626-00129528-00129678 working i mean i have to say that my
4ob8r6wjRvg-00627-00129679-00129727 husband
4ob8r6wjRvg-00628-00129728-00129951 started this um a long time before i got
4ob8r6wjRvg-00629-00129952-00130031 involved
4ob8r6wjRvg-00630-00130032-00130254 um in this company where we started
4ob8r6wjRvg-00631-00130255-00130343 training
4ob8r6wjRvg-00632-00130344-00130607 the artisan and the artists to to become
4ob8r6wjRvg-00633-00130608-00130727 able to produce
4ob8r6wjRvg-00634-00130728-00130934 items that could be suitable for the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00635-00130935-00131111 international market
4ob8r6wjRvg-00636-00131112-00131399 um when i joined this team out 20 years
4ob8r6wjRvg-00637-00131400-00131478 ago
4ob8r6wjRvg-00638-00131479-00131735 the concern became but how do we really
4ob8r6wjRvg-00639-00131736-00131943 have an impact if it's only focused on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00640-00131944-00132014 profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-00641-00132015-00132287 we will not help address the real issues
4ob8r6wjRvg-00642-00132288-00132471 and the real issues in haiti
4ob8r6wjRvg-00643-00132472-00132695 we all know about them it's about the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00644-00132696-00132807 lack of opportunity
4ob8r6wjRvg-00645-00132808-00133063 people are stuck in misery and held
4ob8r6wjRvg-00646-00133064-00133143 hostage by
4ob8r6wjRvg-00647-00133144-00133414 political turmoil so what we have
4ob8r6wjRvg-00648-00133415-00133687 decided to do is show a new model of how
4ob8r6wjRvg-00649-00133688-00133751 we can
4ob8r6wjRvg-00650-00133752-00133975 do business in a profitable way but
4ob8r6wjRvg-00651-00133976-00134159 addressing real issues and giving people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00652-00134160-00134439 real opportunities to go up the ladder
4ob8r6wjRvg-00653-00134440-00134695 and this is i have to say in 2019 i had
4ob8r6wjRvg-00654-00134696-00134878 the opportunity to be at cody and this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00655-00134879-00134919 really
4ob8r6wjRvg-00656-00134920-00135087 made a pivot into my way of doing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00657-00135088-00135231 business completely
4ob8r6wjRvg-00658-00135232-00135439 we did have the essence of it we did do
4ob8r6wjRvg-00659-00135440-00135607 business just like you said buddy we've
4ob8r6wjRvg-00660-00135608-00135719 always been doing it but
4ob8r6wjRvg-00661-00135720-00135902 having the right terms and addressing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00662-00135903-00136063 the right people in the right network
4ob8r6wjRvg-00663-00136064-00136135 made it
4ob8r6wjRvg-00664-00136136-00136351 made a whole of difference i did not
4ob8r6wjRvg-00665-00136352-00136551 understand the language of donors i did
4ob8r6wjRvg-00666-00136552-00136719 not understand that i was eligible to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00667-00136720-00136854 have some assistance
4ob8r6wjRvg-00668-00136855-00137071 because i did not i only saw myself as a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00669-00137072-00137295 business but i didn't see how important
4ob8r6wjRvg-00670-00137296-00137471 and how impactful the work that i was
4ob8r6wjRvg-00671-00137472-00137599 doing um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00672-00137600-00137878 how important it was so attending that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00673-00137879-00138023 that social entrepreneurship
4ob8r6wjRvg-00674-00138024-00138254 class really helped me gather the tool
4ob8r6wjRvg-00675-00138255-00138478 that i needed to speak their language
4ob8r6wjRvg-00676-00138479-00138711 to how to help raise the voice of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00677-00138712-00138863 others who are silent
4ob8r6wjRvg-00678-00138864-00139047 and got me more even more passionate
4ob8r6wjRvg-00679-00139048-00139223 about the work that i do and see how
4ob8r6wjRvg-00680-00139224-00139383 further we can take it
4ob8r6wjRvg-00681-00139384-00139614 so for for the moment we are reshifting
4ob8r6wjRvg-00682-00139615-00139807 our way of doing business by creating
4ob8r6wjRvg-00683-00139808-00140071 that future hub that will be a place
4ob8r6wjRvg-00684-00140072-00140231 where any small institutional
4ob8r6wjRvg-00685-00140232-00140407 entrepreneur can have the tools and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00686-00140408-00140454 knowledge
4ob8r6wjRvg-00687-00140455-00140663 and and the structure needed for them to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00688-00140664-00140807 flourish not for them to be
4ob8r6wjRvg-00689-00140808-00141014 struggling and go on to the burdens that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00690-00141015-00141183 i went through but for them to have the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00691-00141184-00141423 the backup and the and the team behind
4ob8r6wjRvg-00692-00141424-00141575 to make them successful
4ob8r6wjRvg-00693-00141576-00141847 so we really focus on i would say five
4ob8r6wjRvg-00694-00141848-00141878 but
4ob8r6wjRvg-00695-00141879-00142023 a lot of them but five are the most
4ob8r6wjRvg-00696-00142024-00142247 important for us decent work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00697-00142248-00142439 as we know that the work conditions in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00698-00142440-00142559 countries like mine
4ob8r6wjRvg-00699-00142560-00142790 sometimes are terrible and we the fact
4ob8r6wjRvg-00700-00142791-00142935 that we're working with very
4ob8r6wjRvg-00701-00142936-00143151 um engaged partners from across the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00702-00143152-00143239 world we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00703-00143240-00143559 we have to um rethink and reorganize
4ob8r6wjRvg-00704-00143560-00143687 workspace so it's as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00705-00143688-00143926 as efficient but as comfortable for all
4ob8r6wjRvg-00706-00143927-00144047 of our artisans
4ob8r6wjRvg-00707-00144048-00144311 reducing equality uh is one thing that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00708-00144312-00144487 we focus on in asphalt he said
4ob8r6wjRvg-00709-00144488-00144775 no poverty it's not normal that we have
4ob8r6wjRvg-00710-00144776-00144975 such a high rate of poverty here in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00711-00144976-00145039 haiti
4ob8r6wjRvg-00712-00145040-00145254 and gender equality in gender equality
4ob8r6wjRvg-00713-00145255-00145423 i'd like to spend one minute i know that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00714-00145424-00145575 i've been talking a lot but uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00715-00145576-00145759 to share a story with you i remember um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00716-00145760-00145959 we were in a phase where we had
4ob8r6wjRvg-00717-00145960-00146159 not gotten enough orders and we were
4ob8r6wjRvg-00718-00146160-00146366 about to lay off a lot of our artisans
4ob8r6wjRvg-00719-00146367-00146559 and one of them came to me and he said
4ob8r6wjRvg-00720-00146560-00146759 madame dress please give me a chance to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00721-00146760-00146902 stay on the boat on the team
4ob8r6wjRvg-00722-00146903-00147119 and i said yes i'm trying my best but i
4ob8r6wjRvg-00723-00147120-00147278 just need to have the market
4ob8r6wjRvg-00724-00147279-00147454 and she looked at me and she said that's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00725-00147455-00147623 the only way they respect me they
4ob8r6wjRvg-00726-00147624-00147799 respect me because i have a job
4ob8r6wjRvg-00727-00147800-00148071 my husband used to beat me but now he
4ob8r6wjRvg-00728-00148072-00148263 respects me because i earn my living
4ob8r6wjRvg-00729-00148264-00148375 and these are the kind of things that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00730-00148376-00148551 make you realize that there's so much
4ob8r6wjRvg-00731-00148552-00148678 work to be done
4ob8r6wjRvg-00732-00148679-00148943 in terms of giving these women a voice
4ob8r6wjRvg-00733-00148944-00149014 giving them
4ob8r6wjRvg-00734-00149015-00149311 uh the the framework where they could be
4ob8r6wjRvg-00735-00149312-00149535 respected where they could be taken in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00736-00149536-00149863 um as a as equally as a man um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00737-00149864-00150143 we are in a very major society here
4ob8r6wjRvg-00738-00150144-00150199 where
4ob8r6wjRvg-00739-00150200-00150471 women even the most educated one still
4ob8r6wjRvg-00740-00150472-00150647 tend to believe that they
4ob8r6wjRvg-00741-00150648-00150871 still have to be behind a successful man
4ob8r6wjRvg-00742-00150872-00151023 to to have a voice
4ob8r6wjRvg-00743-00151024-00151135 and these are the kind of things that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00744-00151136-00151359 that a social enterprise could help
4ob8r6wjRvg-00745-00151360-00151431 shift
4ob8r6wjRvg-00746-00151432-00151695 we need to find ways to to fill two
4ob8r6wjRvg-00747-00151696-00151766 things
4ob8r6wjRvg-00748-00151767-00152063 the gap between the the fortunate of our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00749-00152064-00152278 society and the less fortunate and only
4ob8r6wjRvg-00750-00152279-00152311 with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00751-00152312-00152543 social enterprises we could do that and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00752-00152544-00152639 also build
4ob8r6wjRvg-00753-00152640-00152895 stronger women because i strongly
4ob8r6wjRvg-00754-00152896-00153023 believe that if
4ob8r6wjRvg-00755-00153024-00153295 haiti was put in the hands of of its
4ob8r6wjRvg-00756-00153296-00153351 women
4ob8r6wjRvg-00757-00153352-00153535 we would not have been in the situation
4ob8r6wjRvg-00758-00153536-00153695 that we are in today
4ob8r6wjRvg-00759-00153696-00153999 so this is what i do i i focus on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00760-00154000-00154183 developing with the groups of artisans
4ob8r6wjRvg-00761-00154184-00154326 across haiti um
4ob8r6wjRvg-00762-00154327-00154566 successful collections that are for the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00763-00154567-00154702 international market
4ob8r6wjRvg-00764-00154703-00154902 giving them a voice through our channel
4ob8r6wjRvg-00765-00154903-00155023 through our website
4ob8r6wjRvg-00766-00155024-00155278 through our advertising campaigns to our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00767-00155279-00155423 to our work basically
4ob8r6wjRvg-00768-00155424-00155631 and trying to see how we could reduce
4ob8r6wjRvg-00769-00155632-00155814 poverty and rebrand
4ob8r6wjRvg-00770-00155815-00156135 haiti thank you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00771-00156136-00156407 thank you megaly it's amazing when we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00772-00156408-00156502 talk about the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00773-00156503-00156775 the sustainable development goal and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00774-00156776-00156823 and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00775-00156824-00157063 this emerging or developing economies
4ob8r6wjRvg-00776-00157064-00157239 and the kind of challenges uh that are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00777-00157240-00157302 there
4ob8r6wjRvg-00778-00157303-00157623 social economic political uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00779-00157624-00157919 natural and within those how do we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00780-00157920-00158102 actually navigate and create
4ob8r6wjRvg-00781-00158103-00158383 enterprises uh which don't provide uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00782-00158384-00158463 handouts
4ob8r6wjRvg-00783-00158464-00158663 but create real opportunities for people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00784-00158664-00158814 so i'm sure there will be questions that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00785-00158815-00158975 that will get back to you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00786-00158976-00159231 okay uh last but not the least uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-00787-00159232-00159359 pauline close to home
4ob8r6wjRvg-00788-00159360-00159614 uh uh it would be great if you if you
4ob8r6wjRvg-00789-00159615-00159743 talk about the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00790-00159744-00160071 the housing work that you're doing here
4ob8r6wjRvg-00791-00160072-00160271 thanks so much and it's thank you so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00792-00160272-00160454 much for the opportunity to be here with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00793-00160455-00160639 you folks today and i'm i'm honored to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00794-00160640-00160751 sit on a panel with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00795-00160752-00161023 magdalena and fatty and to have this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00796-00161024-00161166 opportunity to interact with you and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00797-00161167-00161214 peru
4ob8r6wjRvg-00798-00161215-00161519 once again so thanks for the opportunity
4ob8r6wjRvg-00799-00161520-00161719 i'm here today to speak about the work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00800-00161720-00161887 of the anti-ganesh affordable housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00801-00161888-00161983 society
4ob8r6wjRvg-00802-00161984-00162223 and in that organization i'm a member of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00803-00162224-00162359 the board
4ob8r6wjRvg-00804-00162360-00162566 and the antagonist affordable housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00805-00162567-00162766 society is essentially a non-profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-00806-00162767-00162878 organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-00807-00162879-00163231 that exists to provide housing for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00808-00163232-00163447 people who are living on low income in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00809-00163448-00163647 the anti-ganesh community
4ob8r6wjRvg-00810-00163648-00163863 and before i talk specifically about the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00811-00163864-00164047 work of the organization i just want to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00812-00164048-00164302 frame it in a broader context
4ob8r6wjRvg-00813-00164303-00164566 of the issues around homelessness and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00814-00164567-00164647 housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00815-00164648-00164943 that are worldwide and the latest
4ob8r6wjRvg-00816-00164944-00165107 numbers that i saw which are of course
4ob8r6wjRvg-00817-00165108-00165295 pre-pandemic
4ob8r6wjRvg-00818-00165296-00165607 indicated that 1.6 billion people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00819-00165608-00165990 live or have inadequate housing globally
4ob8r6wjRvg-00820-00165991-00166231 and statistics canada their latest
4ob8r6wjRvg-00821-00166232-00166407 numbers in 2016
4ob8r6wjRvg-00822-00166408-00166807 indicated that almost 1.7 million people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00823-00166808-00167071 were lacking core housing or they were
4ob8r6wjRvg-00824-00167072-00167311 in court housing need in this country
4ob8r6wjRvg-00825-00167312-00167563 and to bring it down to nova scotia in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00826-00167564-00167702 2016
4ob8r6wjRvg-00827-00167703-00167999 we learned that 13 of nova scotian
4ob8r6wjRvg-00828-00168000-00168095 households
4ob8r6wjRvg-00829-00168096-00168366 are living with core housing need so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00830-00168367-00168471 this is an issue
4ob8r6wjRvg-00831-00168472-00168790 not just locally but also one that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00832-00168791-00169135 impacts the world in a very significant
4ob8r6wjRvg-00833-00169136-00169319 way
4ob8r6wjRvg-00834-00169320-00169702 in 2017 the federal government of canada
4ob8r6wjRvg-00835-00169703-00169966 announced a national housing strategy so
4ob8r6wjRvg-00836-00169967-00170007 this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00837-00170008-00170231 was it is a 10-year plan to hopefully
4ob8r6wjRvg-00838-00170232-00170326 address
4ob8r6wjRvg-00839-00170327-00170559 homelessness and housing precarity in
4ob8r6wjRvg-00840-00170560-00170663 the country
4ob8r6wjRvg-00841-00170664-00170983 and to support addressing this problem
4ob8r6wjRvg-00842-00170984-00171166 as a nation as a country and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00843-00171167-00171351 the work that we do at anagan affordable
4ob8r6wjRvg-00844-00171352-00171543 housing is just part of that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00845-00171544-00171887 overall initiative and the un
4ob8r6wjRvg-00846-00171888-00172143 sdgs the sustainable development goals
4ob8r6wjRvg-00847-00172144-00172399 and the agenda 2030 as we all know are
4ob8r6wjRvg-00848-00172400-00172607 about leaving no one behind
4ob8r6wjRvg-00849-00172608-00172854 and there are four goals in particular
4ob8r6wjRvg-00850-00172855-00173023 that we feel the work of our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00851-00173024-00173247 organization addresses specifically
4ob8r6wjRvg-00852-00173248-00173590 the first is no poverty the third of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00853-00173591-00173807 of the goals is good health and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00854-00173808-00173926 well-being
4ob8r6wjRvg-00855-00173927-00174166 the seventh goal is affordable and clean
4ob8r6wjRvg-00856-00174167-00174254 energy
4ob8r6wjRvg-00857-00174255-00174478 and the eleventh is sustainable cities
4ob8r6wjRvg-00858-00174479-00174590 and communities
4ob8r6wjRvg-00859-00174591-00174831 and we feel that our work aligns really
4ob8r6wjRvg-00860-00174832-00175014 well with those goals
4ob8r6wjRvg-00861-00175015-00175166 so as i said we're a volunteer
4ob8r6wjRvg-00862-00175167-00175414 organization uh we've been around for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00863-00175415-00175543 quite some time
4ob8r6wjRvg-00864-00175544-00175783 but it has taken us a lot of time and
4ob8r6wjRvg-00865-00175784-00175966 energy in the last number of years
4ob8r6wjRvg-00866-00175967-00176223 to really solidify the board itself the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00867-00176224-00176423 organization so that we're able to do
4ob8r6wjRvg-00868-00176424-00176526 the work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00869-00176527-00176759 and i have to say that taking the course
4ob8r6wjRvg-00870-00176760-00176895 with you and farouk
4ob8r6wjRvg-00871-00176896-00177071 really helped me think differently about
4ob8r6wjRvg-00872-00177072-00177231 the work that we're doing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00873-00177232-00177502 and how like like magaly and fatih both
4ob8r6wjRvg-00874-00177503-00177623 articulated
4ob8r6wjRvg-00875-00177624-00177814 how to think about our work and perhaps
4ob8r6wjRvg-00876-00177815-00177990 frame it differently when talking with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00877-00177991-00178054 folks
4ob8r6wjRvg-00878-00178055-00178247 whether they're funders or the community
4ob8r6wjRvg-00879-00178248-00178414 or whomever
4ob8r6wjRvg-00880-00178415-00178654 but the work that we do allows us to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00881-00178655-00178823 work with local government provincial
4ob8r6wjRvg-00882-00178824-00178951 government
4ob8r6wjRvg-00883-00178952-00179190 other organizations who are supportive
4ob8r6wjRvg-00884-00179191-00179390 of our vision and i'll get into that a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00885-00179391-00179614 little bit more
4ob8r6wjRvg-00886-00179615-00179919 but in 2017 we began with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00887-00179920-00180231 construction of four homes in 2018
4ob8r6wjRvg-00888-00180232-00180471 we also built an additional 10 in the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00889-00180472-00180599 local area
4ob8r6wjRvg-00890-00180600-00180814 and a community room and i'll talk a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00891-00180815-00180990 little bit more about that later
4ob8r6wjRvg-00892-00180991-00181295 but in 2021 this year we're also
4ob8r6wjRvg-00893-00181296-00181502 planning to build another 12 homes
4ob8r6wjRvg-00894-00181503-00181695 with an additional community room for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00895-00181696-00181887 those folks
4ob8r6wjRvg-00896-00181888-00182054 so the fundamental belief of our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00897-00182055-00182295 organization is that all people have a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00898-00182296-00182431 right to safe secure
4ob8r6wjRvg-00899-00182432-00182663 and affordable housing that is the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00900-00182664-00182814 premise upon which we do
4ob8r6wjRvg-00901-00182815-00183102 all of our work and we will collaborate
4ob8r6wjRvg-00902-00183103-00183287 with others to ensure that people
4ob8r6wjRvg-00903-00183288-00183687 living on low income in have appropriate
4ob8r6wjRvg-00904-00183688-00183959 affordable socially supported housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00905-00183960-00183999 that's
4ob8r6wjRvg-00906-00184000-00184559 our resolution that's why we exist
4ob8r6wjRvg-00907-00184560-00184863 and to do our work we frame it in three
4ob8r6wjRvg-00908-00184864-00184935 pillars
4ob8r6wjRvg-00909-00184936-00185207 and the first is social sustainability
4ob8r6wjRvg-00910-00185208-00185271 the second
4ob8r6wjRvg-00911-00185272-00185511 is environmental sustainability and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-00912-00185512-00185766 third is financial sustainability
4ob8r6wjRvg-00913-00185767-00186038 so all the work that we do we look at it
4ob8r6wjRvg-00914-00186039-00186247 through the lens of sustainability
4ob8r6wjRvg-00915-00186248-00186463 from those three perspectives we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00916-00186464-00186654 sometimes think of it as a three-legged
4ob8r6wjRvg-00917-00186655-00186735 stool
4ob8r6wjRvg-00918-00186736-00186926 and each leg of that stool has to be
4ob8r6wjRvg-00919-00186927-00187102 just as strong as the other
4ob8r6wjRvg-00920-00187103-00187343 in order for the stool to remain upright
4ob8r6wjRvg-00921-00187344-00187526 and solid
4ob8r6wjRvg-00922-00187527-00187814 we also see some of our work as being
4ob8r6wjRvg-00923-00187815-00187966 quite innovative
4ob8r6wjRvg-00924-00187967-00188143 innovative in the sense that we're
4ob8r6wjRvg-00925-00188144-00188343 addressing a gap in the market
4ob8r6wjRvg-00926-00188344-00188511 so there's an absolute need for
4ob8r6wjRvg-00927-00188512-00188678 affordable housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00928-00188679-00188895 we're also addressing the inadequate
4ob8r6wjRvg-00929-00188896-00189102 provision of affordable housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00930-00189103-00189343 and appropriate how appropriate housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00931-00189344-00189463 for people who live
4ob8r6wjRvg-00932-00189464-00189823 on low income one of the things that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00933-00189824-00190071 feel differentiate differentiates us
4ob8r6wjRvg-00934-00190072-00190231 from housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00935-00190232-00190447 in the past is we provide high quality
4ob8r6wjRvg-00936-00190448-00190543 homes
4ob8r6wjRvg-00937-00190544-00190766 and we have access to social supports
4ob8r6wjRvg-00938-00190767-00190950 for people who live with us in our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00939-00190951-00191095 development
4ob8r6wjRvg-00940-00191096-00191271 we have an ability to leverage
4ob8r6wjRvg-00941-00191272-00191454 individual community public
4ob8r6wjRvg-00942-00191455-00191783 and private support toward a common goal
4ob8r6wjRvg-00943-00191784-00191990 it's been absolutely incredible how much
4ob8r6wjRvg-00944-00191991-00192159 support we've had from our local
4ob8r6wjRvg-00945-00192160-00192295 community
4ob8r6wjRvg-00946-00192296-00192654 in support of these developments
4ob8r6wjRvg-00947-00192655-00192959 in terms of investment in this work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00948-00192960-00193183 because it takes a lot of money to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00949-00193184-00193238 support
4ob8r6wjRvg-00950-00193239-00193559 this kind of development we've been able
4ob8r6wjRvg-00951-00193560-00193750 to access grants
4ob8r6wjRvg-00952-00193751-00194071 we've had private and public donations
4ob8r6wjRvg-00953-00194072-00194287 we have loans so mortgages on our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00954-00194288-00194478 buildings the same as anyone else
4ob8r6wjRvg-00955-00194479-00194663 building a home probably
4ob8r6wjRvg-00956-00194664-00194975 and we've been able to access
4ob8r6wjRvg-00957-00194976-00195183 part of the funding available through
4ob8r6wjRvg-00958-00195184-00195390 the national housing strategy
4ob8r6wjRvg-00959-00195391-00195623 called a co-investment fund that's one
4ob8r6wjRvg-00960-00195624-00195735 that we are using
4ob8r6wjRvg-00961-00195736-00195943 in order to to do our construction this
4ob8r6wjRvg-00962-00195944-00196207 year building those 12 new units with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00963-00196208-00196438 with a community room and we also
4ob8r6wjRvg-00964-00196439-00196519 generate
4ob8r6wjRvg-00965-00196520-00196823 uh revenue annually through for our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00966-00196824-00196887 rents
4ob8r6wjRvg-00967-00196888-00197175 through the rent that we collect we have
4ob8r6wjRvg-00968-00197176-00197254 a mix of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00969-00197255-00197478 grant donor and investment capital as
4ob8r6wjRvg-00970-00197479-00197943 well as revenue generation
4ob8r6wjRvg-00971-00197944-00198278 we also started small so we built four
4ob8r6wjRvg-00972-00198279-00198502 four homes to begin with so then that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00973-00198503-00198663 enabled us to have a bit of proof of
4ob8r6wjRvg-00974-00198664-00198750 product
4ob8r6wjRvg-00975-00198751-00198959 uh we were able to show people that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-00976-00198960-00199159 were able to do the work successfully
4ob8r6wjRvg-00977-00199160-00199343 that we set out to do we had a bit of a
4ob8r6wjRvg-00978-00199344-00199447 track record
4ob8r6wjRvg-00979-00199448-00199711 and this made us much more attractive
4ob8r6wjRvg-00980-00199712-00199783 from other
4ob8r6wjRvg-00981-00199784-00200054 funders and sources of financing that
4ob8r6wjRvg-00982-00200055-00200126 helped us
4ob8r6wjRvg-00983-00200127-00200375 get across the threshold and move to to
4ob8r6wjRvg-00984-00200376-00200583 scale our work a bit
4ob8r6wjRvg-00985-00200584-00200878 and we also feel that having a common
4ob8r6wjRvg-00986-00200879-00200943 vision
4ob8r6wjRvg-00987-00200944-00201238 with um with people who support our work
4ob8r6wjRvg-00988-00201239-00201326 really helps
4ob8r6wjRvg-00989-00201327-00201543 incentivize it so working with
4ob8r6wjRvg-00990-00201544-00201702 organizations and groups
4ob8r6wjRvg-00991-00201703-00201950 that share our values and share our
4ob8r6wjRvg-00992-00201951-00202078 vision for providing
4ob8r6wjRvg-00993-00202079-00202238 affordable housing to people who live on
4ob8r6wjRvg-00994-00202239-00202447 low income helps us do our work more
4ob8r6wjRvg-00995-00202448-00202583 effectively and with greater
4ob8r6wjRvg-00996-00202584-00202950 impact another part of our work and i'll
4ob8r6wjRvg-00997-00202951-00203031 end here
4ob8r6wjRvg-00998-00203032-00203287 is that we also feel as an organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-00999-00203288-00203526 that is part of our responsibility
4ob8r6wjRvg-01000-00203527-00203831 not just to do our work locally but
4ob8r6wjRvg-01001-00203832-00204102 also to support broader initiatives
4ob8r6wjRvg-01002-00204103-00204383 province-wide and even nationally
4ob8r6wjRvg-01003-00204384-00204711 to illuminate the discussion around
4ob8r6wjRvg-01004-00204712-00204846 affordable housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01005-00204848-00205119 and to look at solutions and innovative
4ob8r6wjRvg-01006-00205119-00205231 ways to approach
4ob8r6wjRvg-01007-00205232-00205494 housing precarity and homelessness and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01008-00205496-00205662 to share what we're learning
4ob8r6wjRvg-01009-00205663-00205886 and to hopefully help groups in other
4ob8r6wjRvg-01010-00205887-00206055 communities
4ob8r6wjRvg-01011-00206056-00206231 expedite the work that they're trying to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01012-00206232-00206519 do to meet these really important issues
4ob8r6wjRvg-01013-00206519-00206727 and there are lots of examples that i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01014-00206728-00206894 could share in terms of our
4ob8r6wjRvg-01015-00206896-00207110 our social sustainability as well as our
4ob8r6wjRvg-01016-00207111-00207262 environmental and financial
4ob8r6wjRvg-01017-00207263-00207479 but i can stop there yogesh if that's
4ob8r6wjRvg-01018-00207480-00207590 appropriate and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01019-00207591-00207734 maybe those things will come out in the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01020-00207735-00207894 questions yes yeah
4ob8r6wjRvg-01021-00207896-00208086 thank you thank you pauline and it's
4ob8r6wjRvg-01022-00208087-00208214 it's nice that you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01023-00208215-00208398 uh you talked about sustainability from
4ob8r6wjRvg-01024-00208400-00208551 the point of view of social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01025-00208552-00208806 uh financial and environmental because
4ob8r6wjRvg-01026-00208807-00208879 if you look at
4ob8r6wjRvg-01027-00208880-00209190 all the all the 16 goals
4ob8r6wjRvg-01028-00209191-00209375 you can divide them into those those
4ob8r6wjRvg-01029-00209376-00209510 three three pillars
4ob8r6wjRvg-01030-00209511-00209614 that's how they were they were
4ob8r6wjRvg-01031-00209615-00209758 conceptualized and then there was the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01032-00209759-00209934 goal of the partnerships
4ob8r6wjRvg-01033-00209935-00210110 uh so yeah i'm sure there'll be there'll
4ob8r6wjRvg-01034-00210111-00210255 be questions we'll we'll get back to you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01035-00210256-00210294 with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01036-00210296-00210623 with more insights uh pauline uh i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01037-00210623-00210798 i see there's some some questions coming
4ob8r6wjRvg-01038-00210800-00210951 in already uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01039-00210952-00211294 so let me first begin uh uh with you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01040-00211296-00211431 fati
4ob8r6wjRvg-01041-00211432-00211782 i know uh you started
4ob8r6wjRvg-01042-00211783-00212079 uh you became the executive director of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01043-00212080-00212175 uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01044-00212176-00212487 women's widows and orphans movement and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01045-00212488-00212639 you continue to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01046-00212640-00212934 to do that work uh and very important
4ob8r6wjRvg-01047-00212935-00213182 work of of working with widows
4ob8r6wjRvg-01048-00213183-00213391 about their rehabilitation about
4ob8r6wjRvg-01049-00213392-00213494 providing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01050-00213496-00213710 them security very very important work
4ob8r6wjRvg-01051-00213711-00213855 of creating that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01052-00213856-00214119 that social support for that particular
4ob8r6wjRvg-01053-00214119-00214351 group amazing work your ngo does
4ob8r6wjRvg-01054-00214352-00214591 now what motivated you to start a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01055-00214592-00214751 for-profit company
4ob8r6wjRvg-01056-00214752-00214958 because you were already had grants and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01057-00214959-00215087 and you were the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01058-00215088-00215319 the main work was to support those women
4ob8r6wjRvg-01059-00215319-00215503 but what motivated you to create this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01060-00215504-00215623 structure
4ob8r6wjRvg-01061-00215623-00215910 and uh how it happened so there's some
4ob8r6wjRvg-01062-00215911-00216103 some questions around that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01063-00216104-00216342 and uh yeah first start with that and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01064-00216344-00216719 then there are more questions
4ob8r6wjRvg-01065-00216719-00217815 yeah okay so thank you very much
4ob8r6wjRvg-01066-00217816-00218094 maybe fatigue switch off your video i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01067-00218096-00218310 think
4ob8r6wjRvg-01068-00218311-00218671 the ngo bits buddy
4ob8r6wjRvg-01069-00218671-00218958 is it much better yeah maybe maybe
4ob8r6wjRvg-01070-00218959-00219110 switch off your video and then that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01071-00219111-00219334 might help
4ob8r6wjRvg-01072-00219335-00219671 okay let's see
4ob8r6wjRvg-01073-00219671-00219998 hello yeah is it better now
4ob8r6wjRvg-01074-00220000-00220839 yeah you are better now
4ob8r6wjRvg-01075-00220840-00221191 okay okay
4ob8r6wjRvg-01076-00221192-00221582 so um basically
4ob8r6wjRvg-01077-00221583-00221751 from the work we've been doing we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01078-00221752-00222079 realized that when we went to some asp
4ob8r6wjRvg-01079-00222080-00222682 so yoga hearing me
4ob8r6wjRvg-01080-00222683-00222910 yeah yes so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01081-00222911-00223279 um yes the ngo would
4ob8r6wjRvg-01082-00223280-00223734 train people on new skills
4ob8r6wjRvg-01083-00223735-00223942 and they would go further to give them
4ob8r6wjRvg-01084-00223944-00224287 startup company
4ob8r6wjRvg-01085-00224288-00224479 but then we realized that the russian
4ob8r6wjRvg-01086-00224480-00224631 that was
4ob8r6wjRvg-01087-00224632-00224934 um as an ngo it it became
4ob8r6wjRvg-01088-00224935-00225239 quite difficult to assess markets
4ob8r6wjRvg-01089-00225240-00225558 um based on the already standing work we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01090-00225559-00225694 had to do
4ob8r6wjRvg-01091-00225696-00226055 apart from that in our case we realized
4ob8r6wjRvg-01092-00226056-00226263 that most of our women
4ob8r6wjRvg-01093-00226264-00226575 feel more dignified when they work
4ob8r6wjRvg-01094-00226576-00226919 for the money so you know charity is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01095-00226919-00227006 more like people
4ob8r6wjRvg-01096-00227007-00227294 are giving you people people think that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01097-00227296-00227351 oh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01098-00227352-00227582 you need help and so they are giving you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01099-00227583-00227782 and it is not out of place there are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01100-00227783-00227903 some people that would
4ob8r6wjRvg-01101-00227904-00228223 always need that bit but then
4ob8r6wjRvg-01102-00228223-00228494 most people after they have gone through
4ob8r6wjRvg-01103-00228496-00228534 that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01104-00228535-00228855 level actually feel dignified when they
4ob8r6wjRvg-01105-00228856-00229046 work for their money
4ob8r6wjRvg-01106-00229048-00229382 and so we are also providing people
4ob8r6wjRvg-01107-00229383-00229742 that sense of dignity to feel dignified
4ob8r6wjRvg-01108-00229744-00229798 to ensure
4ob8r6wjRvg-01109-00229800-00230246 that okay yes um i can work for my money
4ob8r6wjRvg-01110-00230248-00230567 and i feel more human when i work for my
4ob8r6wjRvg-01111-00230567-00230671 money than when
4ob8r6wjRvg-01112-00230671-00230982 um i'm just relying on charity all the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01113-00230983-00231055 time
4ob8r6wjRvg-01114-00231056-00231367 but then again as an organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-01115-00231367-00231631 even um for a charity which is widows
4ob8r6wjRvg-01116-00231632-00231871 and offense movement we realize that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01117-00231871-00232127 for our own sustainability it's not
4ob8r6wjRvg-01118-00232128-00232423 always that we can go begging for money
4ob8r6wjRvg-01119-00232423-00232734 and there are some things that as an ngo
4ob8r6wjRvg-01120-00232735-00233094 you would need to do that some donors
4ob8r6wjRvg-01121-00233096-00233182 would not really
4ob8r6wjRvg-01122-00233183-00233582 allow you to so most donor funding comes
4ob8r6wjRvg-01123-00233583-00233823 with some strengths attached you can't
4ob8r6wjRvg-01124-00233823-00234031 use this money for this you can use this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01125-00234032-00234191 money for that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01126-00234192-00234398 but then if you've done ngo where you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01127-00234400-00234646 realize that actually sometimes
4ob8r6wjRvg-01128-00234648-00234879 what donna money tells you you can't use
4ob8r6wjRvg-01129-00234880-00235006 the money for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01130-00235007-00235231 is actually what needs to be done to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01131-00235232-00235398 help people
4ob8r6wjRvg-01132-00235400-00235719 and so we opted for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01133-00235719-00235998 a for-profit structure because we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01134-00236000-00236182 equally wanted money
4ob8r6wjRvg-01135-00236183-00236471 that could allow us do the things that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01136-00236471-00236703 we realize that need to be done
4ob8r6wjRvg-01137-00236704-00236967 but which other donors are not willing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01138-00236967-00237055 to fund us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01139-00237056-00237398 do and so um a lot of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01140-00237400-00237663 reasons went into choosing the structure
4ob8r6wjRvg-01141-00237664-00237823 for a for-profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-01142-00237823-00238223 um organizational entity
4ob8r6wjRvg-01143-00238223-00238471 and and you'll remember fatih the the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01144-00238471-00238534 initial
4ob8r6wjRvg-01145-00238535-00238894 uh grant that you got
4ob8r6wjRvg-01146-00238896-00239215 to to set up another uh machine for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01147-00239216-00239327 processing bob
4ob8r6wjRvg-01148-00239328-00239639 oil that came from
4ob8r6wjRvg-01149-00239640-00239839 komat foundation david martin actually
4ob8r6wjRvg-01150-00239840-00240006 he's there in the audience
4ob8r6wjRvg-01151-00240007-00240310 and he has a very specific question
4ob8r6wjRvg-01152-00240311-00240958 yes he's there and he has a very
4ob8r6wjRvg-01153-00240959-00241134 i special think he can he can speak
4ob8r6wjRvg-01154-00241135-00241271 because he's not he doesn't have the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01155-00241271-00241463 privilege but he has a question that i'm
4ob8r6wjRvg-01156-00241464-00241775 going to ask you okay
4ob8r6wjRvg-01157-00241776-00242094 okay so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01158-00242096-00242279 hey david you can speak so you can ask
4ob8r6wjRvg-01159-00242280-00242591 the question directly
4ob8r6wjRvg-01160-00242592-00242758 well you've got it yeah fatty you've got
4ob8r6wjRvg-01161-00242759-00242903 a for-profit uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01162-00242904-00243119 organization the canadian government
4ob8r6wjRvg-01163-00243119-00243310 apparently has invested in it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01164-00243311-00243575 uh in what manner did they invest as a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01165-00243576-00243663 shareholder
4ob8r6wjRvg-01166-00243664-00243934 it it an equity investment debt or and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01167-00243935-00244079 what do they expect to get out of it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01168-00244080-00244503 dividends or what
4ob8r6wjRvg-01169-00244504-00244967 okay thanks david and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01170-00244967-00245206 and i would like to use the opportunity
4ob8r6wjRvg-01171-00245207-00245358 actually to thank um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01172-00245359-00245663 david martin and the comat foundation so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01173-00245664-00245751 much
4ob8r6wjRvg-01174-00245752-00246087 um for supporting atara together spa
4ob8r6wjRvg-01175-00246088-00246271 um i think without their support we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01176-00246271-00246479 wouldn't have been able to get this far
4ob8r6wjRvg-01177-00246480-00246687 not only did they give us grants but
4ob8r6wjRvg-01178-00246688-00247534 they also
4ob8r6wjRvg-01179-00247535-00247791 supported um yoga provide technical
4ob8r6wjRvg-01180-00247792-00247967 always remain very thin
4ob8r6wjRvg-01181-00247967-00248230 the the current investment we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01182-00248231-00248327 getting
4ob8r6wjRvg-01183-00248328-00248527 is actually not from the ghana
4ob8r6wjRvg-01184-00248528-00248687 government
4ob8r6wjRvg-01185-00248688-00249079 so this is a group of impact investors
4ob8r6wjRvg-01186-00249080-00249494 that obviously invest in businesses
4ob8r6wjRvg-01187-00249496-00249751 based on profit but also they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01188-00249752-00249830 looking
4ob8r6wjRvg-01189-00249831-00250158 for social good and so um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01190-00250159-00250479 part of the investment is to also
4ob8r6wjRvg-01191-00250480-00250942 be shareholders in the business
4ob8r6wjRvg-01192-00250944-00251287 but then um part of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01193-00251288-00251615 investment is actually um in a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01194-00251616-00251903 form of a loan form where we will pay
4ob8r6wjRvg-01195-00251904-00251975 back um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01196-00251976-00252446 over the next six years going forward
4ob8r6wjRvg-01197-00252448-00252991 and does that answer the question
4ob8r6wjRvg-01198-00252992-00253391 david
4ob8r6wjRvg-01199-00253392-00253558 yeah i have trouble with the odd beauty
4ob8r6wjRvg-01200-00253559-00253751 about that yes it does fat yeah this is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01201-00253752-00253879 wonderful i mean this is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01202-00253880-00254206 uh wow unbelievable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01203-00254207-00254510 well done it is it is david and and i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01204-00254511-00254582 remember
4ob8r6wjRvg-01205-00254583-00254991 uh fatty got her connection is is not
4ob8r6wjRvg-01206-00254992-00255046 good
4ob8r6wjRvg-01207-00255048-00255263 when you had actually made that initial
4ob8r6wjRvg-01208-00255264-00255519 investment and the kind of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01209-00255519-00255710 challenges she had to go through to get
4ob8r6wjRvg-01210-00255711-00255887 the machinery get the engineer from
4ob8r6wjRvg-01211-00255888-00255967 accra
4ob8r6wjRvg-01212-00255967-00256303 having no power from that stage to have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01213-00256304-00256351 uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01214-00256352-00256591 impact investors those guys don't invest
4ob8r6wjRvg-01215-00256592-00256775 unless you have a solid model
4ob8r6wjRvg-01216-00256776-00257087 uh business model so it's a huge
4ob8r6wjRvg-01217-00257088-00257223 progress so yeah
4ob8r6wjRvg-01218-00257223-00257591 great job i have more questions coming
4ob8r6wjRvg-01219-00257592-00257682 in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01220-00257683-00257991 for uh both for pauline and and megaly
4ob8r6wjRvg-01221-00257992-00258134 as well
4ob8r6wjRvg-01222-00258135-00258494 so let me let me begin with with magali
4ob8r6wjRvg-01223-00258496-00258871 magali you mentioned uh the language of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01224-00258871-00259279 of donors and uh in your uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01225-00259280-00259463 in your initial remarks you also talked
4ob8r6wjRvg-01226-00259464-00259646 about uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01227-00259648-00259991 working uh with with ngos and and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01228-00259992-00260071 working with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01229-00260071-00260342 with the state what as a private
4ob8r6wjRvg-01230-00260344-00260406 business
4ob8r6wjRvg-01231-00260407-00260606 so can you can you just uh speak a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01232-00260607-00260727 little bit uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01233-00260728-00261006 about so you you you always remain a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01234-00261007-00261134 private enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-01235-00261135-00261415 uh uh providing employment opportunities
4ob8r6wjRvg-01236-00261416-00261463 uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01237-00261464-00261727 to uh to mostly underserved uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01238-00261728-00261839 communities
4ob8r6wjRvg-01239-00261840-00262015 uh how do you actually create
4ob8r6wjRvg-01240-00262016-00262199 partnerships with the ngos and with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01241-00262200-00262255 state
4ob8r6wjRvg-01242-00262256-00262423 and then how do you create that sector
4ob8r6wjRvg-01243-00262424-00262639 level impact the impact so it's just not
4ob8r6wjRvg-01244-00262640-00262871 your enterprises that creates employment
4ob8r6wjRvg-01245-00262872-00263215 you have you you're changing the sector
4ob8r6wjRvg-01246-00263216-00263463 ah thank you for the question this is um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01247-00263464-00263575 i'd like to say something
4ob8r6wjRvg-01248-00263576-00263855 fatty started with the ngo then has her
4ob8r6wjRvg-01249-00263856-00263943 business
4ob8r6wjRvg-01250-00263944-00264151 we started with the business now we have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01251-00264152-00264310 a ngo branch
4ob8r6wjRvg-01252-00264311-00264471 because the work that we're doing for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01253-00264472-00264703 the nature of it there's no way we could
4ob8r6wjRvg-01254-00264704-00264751 go
4ob8r6wjRvg-01255-00264752-00264943 further if we don't have that branch
4ob8r6wjRvg-01256-00264944-00265151 that ngo partner
4ob8r6wjRvg-01257-00265152-00265423 first of all with as a for business a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01258-00265424-00265534 for-profit only
4ob8r6wjRvg-01259-00265535-00265799 uh we would not be eligible to establish
4ob8r6wjRvg-01260-00265800-00265887 partnership with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01261-00265888-00266191 other foundations for us to carry on our
4ob8r6wjRvg-01262-00266192-00266327 education programs
4ob8r6wjRvg-01263-00266328-00266519 or feeding programs and these are kind
4ob8r6wjRvg-01264-00266520-00266647 of things that are dear to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01265-00266648-00266879 our vision but that we can't support
4ob8r6wjRvg-01266-00266880-00266999 into our pricing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01267-00267000-00267247 that will make us non-competitive so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01268-00267248-00267351 having
4ob8r6wjRvg-01269-00267352-00267527 after all this experience being only a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01270-00267528-00267791 for-profit i was struggling to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01271-00267792-00268047 keep go keep keep going with with these
4ob8r6wjRvg-01272-00268048-00268279 programs that are very important to us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01273-00268280-00268471 our success is not how much money we can
4ob8r6wjRvg-01274-00268472-00268639 make is how much we could change the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01275-00268640-00268782 life of the origins
4ob8r6wjRvg-01276-00268783-00269071 so um having that non-profit arm is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01277-00269072-00269215 opening us new doors
4ob8r6wjRvg-01278-00269216-00269510 and uh and all of this was we decided to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01279-00269511-00269671 do after 2019
4ob8r6wjRvg-01280-00269672-00269903 because i did not know how this work i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01281-00269904-00270055 couldn't understand how this world
4ob8r6wjRvg-01282-00270056-00270127 function
4ob8r6wjRvg-01283-00270128-00270351 how it was complicated to me the impact
4ob8r6wjRvg-01284-00270352-00270543 investor the angel investors all this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01285-00270544-00270679 sounded like chinese
4ob8r6wjRvg-01286-00270680-00270903 until i went to india conditions and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01287-00270904-00271030 this is pretty clear
4ob8r6wjRvg-01288-00271031-00271182 and you are doing the work that they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01289-00271183-00271415 looking for and how can we connect the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01290-00271416-00271455 gap
4ob8r6wjRvg-01291-00271456-00271703 the dots um so working with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01292-00271704-00271879 government here in haiti is something
4ob8r6wjRvg-01293-00271880-00272039 that we have not been yet
4ob8r6wjRvg-01294-00272040-00272295 successful but we are looking beyond
4ob8r6wjRvg-01295-00272296-00272430 that in working with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01296-00272431-00272606 communities and organizations who have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01297-00272607-00272847 that share our vision
4ob8r6wjRvg-01298-00272848-00273151 um so we have we have started
4ob8r6wjRvg-01299-00273152-00273351 building a new website where artists and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01300-00273352-00273582 artisan groups will be able to brand
4ob8r6wjRvg-01301-00273583-00273806 their items and share them with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01302-00273807-00273887 world
4ob8r6wjRvg-01303-00273888-00274134 we believe that the market size is so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01304-00274135-00274206 big
4ob8r6wjRvg-01305-00274207-00274430 that we have a responsibility to share
4ob8r6wjRvg-01306-00274431-00274567 what we learned
4ob8r6wjRvg-01307-00274568-00274758 with the rest of the group so they can
4ob8r6wjRvg-01308-00274759-00274967 speed up their development
4ob8r6wjRvg-01309-00274968-00275255 so that is why um having that ngo arm
4ob8r6wjRvg-01310-00275256-00275295 now
4ob8r6wjRvg-01311-00275296-00275519 with the private for-profit company
4ob8r6wjRvg-01312-00275520-00275671 enables us to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01313-00275672-00275927 tackle deep into the market with our
4ob8r6wjRvg-01314-00275928-00276087 with our marketing strategy
4ob8r6wjRvg-01315-00276088-00276391 but also carry on with our social impact
4ob8r6wjRvg-01316-00276392-00276671 programs such as education feeding
4ob8r6wjRvg-01317-00276672-00276758 financing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01318-00276759-00277030 um and and so on all the things that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01319-00277031-00277247 believe that we have the responsibility
4ob8r6wjRvg-01320-00277248-00277351 to address
4ob8r6wjRvg-01321-00277352-00277655 if we want to be um helping the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01322-00277656-00277895 artisan sector as a whole go forward and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01323-00277896-00278110 not keep them in a disguised
4ob8r6wjRvg-01324-00278111-00278455 misery yes
4ob8r6wjRvg-01325-00278456-00278606 thank you magali and it's really
4ob8r6wjRvg-01326-00278607-00278823 interesting so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01327-00278824-00279103 when we talk about uh social enterprises
4ob8r6wjRvg-01328-00279104-00279175 this uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01329-00279176-00279487 both the examples of of you and fatih
4ob8r6wjRvg-01330-00279488-00279727 tell that it's a it's hybrid
4ob8r6wjRvg-01331-00279728-00279823 organizations
4ob8r6wjRvg-01332-00279824-00280006 so you have a mix of for-profit and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01333-00280007-00280310 non-profit working simultaneously
4ob8r6wjRvg-01334-00280311-00280510 in case of party she's not a non-profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-01335-00280511-00280679 and she has a far profit arm
4ob8r6wjRvg-01336-00280680-00280999 your case now and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01337-00281000-00281279 and both have to uh run simultaneously
4ob8r6wjRvg-01338-00281280-00281430 to create the social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01339-00281431-00281799 and economic value pauline um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01340-00281800-00282071 there is a question for you as well uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01341-00282072-00282175 you talked about
4ob8r6wjRvg-01342-00282176-00282439 uh a proof of concept creating a proof
4ob8r6wjRvg-01343-00282440-00282543 of concept and then
4ob8r6wjRvg-01344-00282544-00282855 starting small and then building on so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01345-00282856-00282999 can you just please expand why
4ob8r6wjRvg-01346-00283000-00283255 why that is uh why that is necessary and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01347-00283256-00283351 also maybe
4ob8r6wjRvg-01348-00283352-00283582 on this question of uh for-profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-01349-00283583-00283799 not-for-profit you are also as a as
4ob8r6wjRvg-01350-00283800-00284030 a board as an organization extra like
4ob8r6wjRvg-01351-00284031-00284127 looking at this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01352-00284128-00284487 right sure uh thanks georges so yes we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01353-00284488-00284727 certainly identify as a non-profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-01354-00284728-00285015 and the reason that we do is because
4ob8r6wjRvg-01355-00285016-00285191 that enables us to have charitable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01356-00285192-00285247 status
4ob8r6wjRvg-01357-00285248-00285463 in the province of nova scotia and with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01358-00285464-00285599 charitable status
4ob8r6wjRvg-01359-00285600-00285903 we are able to to fundraise
4ob8r6wjRvg-01360-00285904-00286223 and to to receive money from people who
4ob8r6wjRvg-01361-00286224-00286382 want to support our mission
4ob8r6wjRvg-01362-00286383-00286591 and that wouldn't be the case if we were
4ob8r6wjRvg-01363-00286592-00286775 organized officially as a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01364-00286776-00287054 as a for-profit enterprise so for us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01365-00287055-00287279 there are advantages in that regard
4ob8r6wjRvg-01366-00287280-00287471 but we're definitely a social purpose
4ob8r6wjRvg-01367-00287472-00287654 organization oh you know we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01368-00287655-00287863 we are an enterprise and we do run a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01369-00287864-00287982 business in terms of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01370-00287983-00288230 of you know our product is affordable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01371-00288231-00288287 housing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01372-00288288-00288527 affordable homes for which people pay
4ob8r6wjRvg-01373-00288528-00288615 rent
4ob8r6wjRvg-01374-00288616-00288823 so we are generating revenue to cover
4ob8r6wjRvg-01375-00288824-00288951 our costs in part
4ob8r6wjRvg-01376-00288952-00289199 but we're definitely a non-profit and a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01377-00289200-00289287 social purpose
4ob8r6wjRvg-01378-00289288-00289582 organization in terms of the build of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01379-00289583-00289703 the first four
4ob8r6wjRvg-01380-00289704-00289927 units um you know i have to say that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01381-00289928-00290015 this organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-01382-00290016-00290230 organization existed for many many many
4ob8r6wjRvg-01383-00290231-00290319 years
4ob8r6wjRvg-01384-00290320-00290599 and you know for a variety of reasons it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01385-00290600-00290639 was
4ob8r6wjRvg-01386-00290640-00290934 never able to pull the trigger and by
4ob8r6wjRvg-01387-00290935-00291110 that i mean it was very difficult to get
4ob8r6wjRvg-01388-00291111-00291254 to the point where we could
4ob8r6wjRvg-01389-00291255-00291543 actually begin building begin creating
4ob8r6wjRvg-01390-00291544-00291647 the homes
4ob8r6wjRvg-01391-00291648-00291919 and even though we had fundraised and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01392-00291920-00292095 even though we had generated
4ob8r6wjRvg-01393-00292096-00292430 some some capital to invest in that in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01394-00292431-00292703 the construction of the first homes we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01395-00292704-00292830 had planned to build
4ob8r6wjRvg-01396-00292831-00293087 14 at the beginning we could not
4ob8r6wjRvg-01397-00293088-00293343 generate enough capital to do that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01398-00293344-00293599 and we didn't have any experience behind
4ob8r6wjRvg-01399-00293600-00293839 us we couldn't say to the investors
4ob8r6wjRvg-01400-00293840-00294006 we know we can do this because we've
4ob8r6wjRvg-01401-00294007-00294143 done it before
4ob8r6wjRvg-01402-00294144-00294358 and we were very very fortunate to have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01403-00294359-00294582 the support of a private donor
4ob8r6wjRvg-01404-00294583-00294806 and a private donor was the congregation
4ob8r6wjRvg-01405-00294807-00294975 of the sisters of saint martha
4ob8r6wjRvg-01406-00294976-00295199 who had faith in us who believed in our
4ob8r6wjRvg-01407-00295200-00295295 mission
4ob8r6wjRvg-01408-00295296-00295519 and were willing to take a chance and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01409-00295520-00295606 provide some
4ob8r6wjRvg-01410-00295607-00295863 some financing that enabled us to build
4ob8r6wjRvg-01411-00295864-00296071 those first four units
4ob8r6wjRvg-01412-00296072-00296351 and with that experience under our belts
4ob8r6wjRvg-01413-00296352-00296447 and with that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01414-00296448-00296606 that proof of product and proof of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01415-00296607-00296806 success that became
4ob8r6wjRvg-01416-00296807-00297039 that made us much more bankable or
4ob8r6wjRvg-01417-00297040-00297134 financiable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01418-00297135-00297406 in terms of going to other investors so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01419-00297407-00297519 that was a really
4ob8r6wjRvg-01420-00297520-00297775 critical point in our evolution as an
4ob8r6wjRvg-01421-00297776-00297871 organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-01422-00297872-00298039 in terms of being able to prove what we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01423-00298040-00298351 were able to do and then to scale
4ob8r6wjRvg-01424-00298352-00298639 that that first construction of four
4ob8r6wjRvg-01425-00298640-00298743 homes which is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01426-00298744-00299039 very very small but it enabled us to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01427-00299040-00299110 scale that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01428-00299111-00299351 until to leverage that asset and to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01429-00299352-00299734 build on our experience to do more
4ob8r6wjRvg-01430-00299735-00299958 and and one thing i think uh when you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01431-00299959-00300063 talked about creating
4ob8r6wjRvg-01432-00300064-00300510 safe secure and affordable uh spaces but
4ob8r6wjRvg-01433-00300511-00300767 when we took our class to see uh to see
4ob8r6wjRvg-01434-00300768-00300927 the affordable housing project
4ob8r6wjRvg-01435-00300928-00301230 in 2019 one feedback i got that these
4ob8r6wjRvg-01436-00301231-00301351 houses
4ob8r6wjRvg-01437-00301352-00301687 uh are affordable are safe but they
4ob8r6wjRvg-01438-00301688-00301927 by no means they are low in quality this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01439-00301928-00301991 is how
4ob8r6wjRvg-01440-00301992-00302279 anybody can can live in so that also
4ob8r6wjRvg-01441-00302280-00302406 tells you that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01442-00302407-00302558 people with low income should have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01443-00302559-00302775 access to the same kind of housing that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01444-00302776-00302958 anybody else can live and that was i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01445-00302959-00303151 think kind of a big uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01446-00303152-00303375 um aha moment for all the participants
4ob8r6wjRvg-01447-00303376-00303463 they said look
4ob8r6wjRvg-01448-00303464-00303775 when somebody has an affordable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01449-00303776-00303927 house like that they can they can be
4ob8r6wjRvg-01450-00303928-00304079 better at work as well
4ob8r6wjRvg-01451-00304080-00304230 they can have more opportunities opened
4ob8r6wjRvg-01452-00304231-00304439 up and also
4ob8r6wjRvg-01453-00304440-00304630 it's it's good you you point out and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01454-00304631-00304767 this is what we learn in the class as
4ob8r6wjRvg-01455-00304768-00304863 well that you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01456-00304864-00305087 you always start with a with a with a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01457-00305088-00305239 proof of concept
4ob8r6wjRvg-01458-00305240-00305575 a strong prototype do a piloting of that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01459-00305576-00305815 and then go to scale so that sequence is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01460-00305816-00305951 is is really really
4ob8r6wjRvg-01461-00305952-00306327 key the more questions coming in uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01462-00306328-00306647 there's one more for you uh fati um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01463-00306648-00306895 and this is from one of our graduates
4ob8r6wjRvg-01464-00306896-00307030 from your region i think she's from
4ob8r6wjRvg-01465-00307031-00307127 nigeria
4ob8r6wjRvg-01466-00307128-00307439 she's asking um you you work with uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01467-00307440-00307727 uh uh with with widows which is a very
4ob8r6wjRvg-01468-00307728-00307903 marginalized group and and the way you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01469-00307904-00308206 you described it uh situate they are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01470-00308207-00308358 really really vulnerable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01471-00308359-00308599 and the kind of work you do and i have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01472-00308600-00308751 seen with my own eyes the kind of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01473-00308752-00308934 changes you see in in those
4ob8r6wjRvg-01474-00308935-00309103 women and the confidence and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01475-00309104-00309319 confidence that they have now
4ob8r6wjRvg-01476-00309320-00309623 she's asking do you only
4ob8r6wjRvg-01477-00309624-00309815 focus on that for running an enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-01478-00309816-00310030 do you only buy from widows or
4ob8r6wjRvg-01479-00310031-00310206 there are other women that that you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01480-00310207-00310430 reach out to or you are open to working
4ob8r6wjRvg-01481-00310431-00310582 with because there are other
4ob8r6wjRvg-01482-00310583-00310958 marginalized groups also exist so how do
4ob8r6wjRvg-01483-00310959-00311023 you look
4ob8r6wjRvg-01484-00311024-00311151 at that how do you actually prioritize
4ob8r6wjRvg-01485-00311152-00311351 working with with widows and then how
4ob8r6wjRvg-01486-00311352-00311447 how do you integrate
4ob8r6wjRvg-01487-00311448-00311639 how how you remain more inclusive about
4ob8r6wjRvg-01488-00311640-00311975 others as well
4ob8r6wjRvg-01489-00311976-00312439 yeah okay so so um yeah thank you um so
4ob8r6wjRvg-01490-00312440-00312654 we we do recognize that there are other
4ob8r6wjRvg-01491-00312655-00312751 marginalized
4ob8r6wjRvg-01492-00312752-00313071 groups um and and also
4ob8r6wjRvg-01493-00313072-00313487 um we need to reach them but for now
4ob8r6wjRvg-01494-00313488-00313799 we we also believe that it is better to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01495-00313800-00314151 focus on a few and then
4ob8r6wjRvg-01496-00314152-00314519 really get the impact that is required
4ob8r6wjRvg-01497-00314520-00314958 before we expand and so currently
4ob8r6wjRvg-01498-00314959-00315310 we are concentrating more on only widows
4ob8r6wjRvg-01499-00315311-00315571 and this is because of our peculiar
4ob8r6wjRvg-01500-00315572-00315710 circumstances
4ob8r6wjRvg-01501-00315711-00316110 because for me if a if a widow tells me
4ob8r6wjRvg-01502-00316111-00316182 that oh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01503-00316183-00316527 now in my community they actually
4ob8r6wjRvg-01504-00316528-00316815 call me when they are having community
4ob8r6wjRvg-01505-00316816-00316919 meetings
4ob8r6wjRvg-01506-00316920-00317230 to ask of my opinion because i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01507-00317231-00317606 am a key stakeholder in providing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01508-00317607-00317910 um income to others then
4ob8r6wjRvg-01509-00317911-00318206 it means that our work is done that is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01510-00318207-00318375 what we actually we want we want the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01511-00318376-00318551 widow's voices to be head at the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01512-00318552-00318734 community levels
4ob8r6wjRvg-01513-00318735-00319047 and for now we do not wish to dilute
4ob8r6wjRvg-01514-00319048-00319303 what we are looking for and so we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01515-00319304-00319487 believe that there are widows that are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01516-00319488-00319567 equally
4ob8r6wjRvg-01517-00319568-00319879 having disabilities and we equally work
4ob8r6wjRvg-01518-00319880-00319951 with such
4ob8r6wjRvg-01519-00319952-00320295 women so for now we focus on just
4ob8r6wjRvg-01520-00320296-00320623 widows in terms of who we source our
4ob8r6wjRvg-01521-00320624-00320879 material for if any other person wants
4ob8r6wjRvg-01522-00320880-00321047 to sell to us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01523-00321048-00321303 we ask them to go sell it to the widows
4ob8r6wjRvg-01524-00321304-00321454 groups we are working with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01525-00321455-00321734 because by so doing we are forcing an
4ob8r6wjRvg-01526-00321735-00321967 interaction with those women groups
4ob8r6wjRvg-01527-00321968-00322167 we are giving them some power at the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01528-00322168-00323158 community level
4ob8r6wjRvg-01529-00323159-00323623 i think we lost her again but
4ob8r6wjRvg-01530-00323624-00323847 your connection is uh is weak again they
4ob8r6wjRvg-01531-00323848-00324039 are recognized as to the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01532-00324040-00324351 um of the communities okay okay
4ob8r6wjRvg-01533-00324352-00324663 yeah i i actually uh uh remember i i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01534-00324664-00324999 i did yeah you're breaking
4ob8r6wjRvg-01535-00325000-00325351 up fatih i remember visiting those uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01536-00325352-00325471 those widows group
4ob8r6wjRvg-01537-00325472-00325751 uh uh three three three four three or
4ob8r6wjRvg-01538-00325752-00325879 four years back
4ob8r6wjRvg-01539-00325880-00326230 and what fatih described that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01540-00326231-00326567 if others uh want to sell uh that raw
4ob8r6wjRvg-01541-00326568-00326679 material
4ob8r6wjRvg-01542-00326680-00327015 to fati's enterprise they make them go
4ob8r6wjRvg-01543-00327016-00327175 through the widow's group
4ob8r6wjRvg-01544-00327176-00327327 and and when i ask them this this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01545-00327328-00327495 question of like how does how do they
4ob8r6wjRvg-01546-00327496-00327582 feel about it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01547-00327583-00327999 and these the these uh they told me
4ob8r6wjRvg-01548-00328000-00328239 that you know we from a situation where
4ob8r6wjRvg-01549-00328240-00328382 everybody used to hate us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01550-00328383-00328615 uh didn't didn't talk to us didn't want
4ob8r6wjRvg-01551-00328616-00328727 to deal with us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01552-00328728-00328958 now we give them the money for their
4ob8r6wjRvg-01553-00328959-00329143 product that's a huge change in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01554-00329144-00329343 in in in in the in the power in their
4ob8r6wjRvg-01555-00329344-00329534 empowerment so that was a huge
4ob8r6wjRvg-01556-00329535-00329687 and for them that was the most
4ob8r6wjRvg-01557-00329688-00329903 significant change that we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01558-00329904-00330134 somebody we can actually give money to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01559-00330135-00330351 to others who never even talk to us
4ob8r6wjRvg-01560-00330352-00330543 so that was the kind of change that they
4ob8r6wjRvg-01561-00330544-00330654 wanted to see and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01562-00330655-00330830 i think those are very practical ways of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01563-00330831-00331103 ensuring that kind of empowerment
4ob8r6wjRvg-01564-00331104-00331271 okay one more i think we are running
4ob8r6wjRvg-01565-00331272-00331447 almost out of time so i have one more
4ob8r6wjRvg-01566-00331448-00331551 question to all
4ob8r6wjRvg-01567-00331552-00331767 all three of you and then maybe we will
4ob8r6wjRvg-01568-00331768-00331895 uh we will wrap it up
4ob8r6wjRvg-01569-00331896-00332215 so magalie uh you you you run a very
4ob8r6wjRvg-01570-00332216-00332367 very successful
4ob8r6wjRvg-01571-00332368-00332623 uh enterprise uh that has a national
4ob8r6wjRvg-01572-00332624-00332719 impact
4ob8r6wjRvg-01573-00332720-00332934 both at the end price level but at the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01574-00332935-00333047 sector level
4ob8r6wjRvg-01575-00333048-00333351 now when you think
4ob8r6wjRvg-01576-00333352-00333510 you when you talk about creating social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01577-00333511-00333775 value and and creating a a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01578-00333776-00334071 non-profit working with that there's a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01579-00334072-00334230 change in culture as well right for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01580-00334231-00334423 running a successful profit you have to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01581-00334424-00334591 have that business culture
4ob8r6wjRvg-01582-00334592-00334791 so how do you navigate that like do you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01583-00334792-00334951 recruit new team
4ob8r6wjRvg-01584-00334952-00335206 or or you you you work with your
4ob8r6wjRvg-01585-00335207-00335295 existing team
4ob8r6wjRvg-01586-00335296-00335710 how do you look at that cultural shift
4ob8r6wjRvg-01587-00335711-00335854 well thank you so much for this question
4ob8r6wjRvg-01588-00335855-00336063 because uh this is something that is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01589-00336064-00336239 uh people are going to be surprised by
4ob8r6wjRvg-01590-00336240-00336534 my answer there were no cultural shift
4ob8r6wjRvg-01591-00336535-00336895 because within my business we always had
4ob8r6wjRvg-01592-00336896-00337215 as a at heart it was a key value to the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01593-00337216-00337406 company itself and that's why i was
4ob8r6wjRvg-01594-00337407-00337654 i was saying at the beginning we started
4ob8r6wjRvg-01595-00337655-00337863 that social enterprise without knowing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01596-00337864-00337951 that we were
4ob8r6wjRvg-01597-00337952-00338119 into that social enterprise and the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01598-00338120-00338295 struggles that we were doing we were
4ob8r6wjRvg-01599-00338296-00338487 going through is because we were missing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01600-00338488-00338623 that non-profit car
4ob8r6wjRvg-01601-00338624-00338847 the business side could not carry on
4ob8r6wjRvg-01602-00338848-00339087 with all of the agenda that we had built
4ob8r6wjRvg-01603-00339088-00339351 in uh for us as a success to describe
4ob8r6wjRvg-01604-00339352-00339439 success
4ob8r6wjRvg-01605-00339440-00339695 so even uh everybody who would walk into
4ob8r6wjRvg-01606-00339696-00339895 our company into our groups would say
4ob8r6wjRvg-01607-00339896-00340199 how come you keep that spirit alive it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01608-00340200-00340334 is a life because this is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01609-00340335-00340671 what we have um shown from day one
4ob8r6wjRvg-01610-00340672-00340927 the the the the the communication
4ob8r6wjRvg-01611-00340928-00341103 channel between the the head of groups
4ob8r6wjRvg-01612-00341104-00341151 and uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01613-00341152-00341415 and the in the artisans has always been
4ob8r6wjRvg-01614-00341416-00341495 for me to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01615-00341496-00341782 have your back he was never built on a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01616-00341783-00341958 business model where you're here to make
4ob8r6wjRvg-01617-00341959-00342063 me profitable
4ob8r6wjRvg-01618-00342064-00342382 it has been built in day one we are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01619-00342383-00342519 going forward together
4ob8r6wjRvg-01620-00342520-00342703 and this is the the model that i'm
4ob8r6wjRvg-01621-00342704-00342919 hoping that could be replicated across
4ob8r6wjRvg-01622-00342920-00342975 haiti
4ob8r6wjRvg-01623-00342976-00343134 because this is the only way we're gonna
4ob8r6wjRvg-01624-00343135-00343334 put down these barriers
4ob8r6wjRvg-01625-00343335-00343503 that are already programmed in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01626-00343504-00343695 everybody's head knowing that you're
4ob8r6wjRvg-01627-00343696-00343839 because you're born in haiti you have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01628-00343840-00343967 zero opportunity and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01629-00343968-00344175 people are there only to take advantage
4ob8r6wjRvg-01630-00344176-00344327 of you and make you work for profit
4ob8r6wjRvg-01631-00344328-00344575 is something that we need to shift so we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01632-00344576-00344663 this is um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01633-00344664-00344823 we didn't have to go through that uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01634-00344824-00345054 change of culture because it was built
4ob8r6wjRvg-01635-00345055-00345087 in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01636-00345088-00345430 um the first day of the company
4ob8r6wjRvg-01637-00345431-00345582 and then following the same question to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01638-00345583-00345815 you i know that the team at
4ob8r6wjRvg-01639-00345816-00346103 antigonish affordable housing uh you try
4ob8r6wjRvg-01640-00346104-00346223 to make sure that there's
4ob8r6wjRvg-01641-00346224-00346471 uh there's a financial expert who looks
4ob8r6wjRvg-01642-00346472-00346558 after that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01643-00346559-00346767 the financial sustainability of the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01644-00346768-00346991 organization there is social side
4ob8r6wjRvg-01645-00346992-00347351 so how do you actually
4ob8r6wjRvg-01646-00347352-00347606 ensure that that that culture of of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01647-00347607-00347791 creating that that social value always
4ob8r6wjRvg-01648-00347792-00348103 remains
4ob8r6wjRvg-01649-00348104-00348415 it's not always an easy thing your guest
4ob8r6wjRvg-01650-00348416-00348806 but part of it is ensuring that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01651-00348807-00349095 that's the all members of the board that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01652-00349096-00349247 we have an opportunity
4ob8r6wjRvg-01653-00349248-00349543 to really think about the why why are we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01654-00349544-00349695 doing this work
4ob8r6wjRvg-01655-00349696-00350103 and when you think about inclusion um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01656-00350104-00350303 one of our board members sister sister
4ob8r6wjRvg-01657-00350304-00350439 marian sheridan
4ob8r6wjRvg-01658-00350440-00350839 says that inclusion is really about
4ob8r6wjRvg-01659-00350840-00351151 welcoming the no one whoever that may be
4ob8r6wjRvg-01660-00351152-00351495 so when you think about the agenda 2030
4ob8r6wjRvg-01661-00351496-00351775 leave no one behind so it's about
4ob8r6wjRvg-01662-00351776-00351951 welcoming the no one
4ob8r6wjRvg-01663-00351952-00352143 whoever that might be welcoming
4ob8r6wjRvg-01664-00352144-00352295 strangers
4ob8r6wjRvg-01665-00352296-00352582 making sure that that is the why of what
4ob8r6wjRvg-01666-00352583-00352727 it is we're doing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01667-00352728-00353063 so it's really about using your vision
4ob8r6wjRvg-01668-00353064-00353287 and your values as the touchstone for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01669-00353288-00353447 the organization
4ob8r6wjRvg-01670-00353448-00353758 and when we talk about financial social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01671-00353759-00354015 and environmental sustainability
4ob8r6wjRvg-01672-00354016-00354295 inc that supports our whole agenda of
4ob8r6wjRvg-01673-00354296-00354358 inclusion
4ob8r6wjRvg-01674-00354359-00354630 as well and if i could give you one
4ob8r6wjRvg-01675-00354631-00354727 example
4ob8r6wjRvg-01676-00354728-00354878 and how all of these things are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01677-00354879-00355078 interconnected
4ob8r6wjRvg-01678-00355079-00355391 we made a decision as a board to invest
4ob8r6wjRvg-01679-00355392-00355654 in solar panels now that was with the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01680-00355655-00355751 help of a local
4ob8r6wjRvg-01681-00355752-00355967 organization as well so that's not
4ob8r6wjRvg-01682-00355968-00356175 something we had to do
4ob8r6wjRvg-01683-00356176-00356351 but it's something we chose to do
4ob8r6wjRvg-01684-00356352-00356463 because of our commitment to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01685-00356464-00356647 environmental sustainability
4ob8r6wjRvg-01686-00356648-00356903 it also has financial implications
4ob8r6wjRvg-01687-00356904-00357023 because it saves
4ob8r6wjRvg-01688-00357024-00357351 energy costs for the organization we can
4ob8r6wjRvg-01689-00357352-00357623 put some of those energy costs as direct
4ob8r6wjRvg-01690-00357624-00357767 savings to our tenants
4ob8r6wjRvg-01691-00357768-00358015 tenants it decreases their energy costs
4ob8r6wjRvg-01692-00358016-00358223 and with those savings we can also
4ob8r6wjRvg-01693-00358224-00358471 support a position of a community
4ob8r6wjRvg-01694-00358472-00358567 navigator
4ob8r6wjRvg-01695-00358568-00358767 and the community navigator is someone
4ob8r6wjRvg-01696-00358768-00358878 who works with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01697-00358879-00359206 our tenants to to try to facilitate
4ob8r6wjRvg-01698-00359207-00359463 ways in which they can live well as part
4ob8r6wjRvg-01699-00359464-00359671 of our as part of our homes
4ob8r6wjRvg-01700-00359672-00359878 so all of these things for us the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01701-00359879-00360095 sustainability and the inclusion are all
4ob8r6wjRvg-01702-00360096-00360230 interconnected
4ob8r6wjRvg-01703-00360231-00360543 and and we see and it's really about
4ob8r6wjRvg-01704-00360544-00360719 keeping in touch with the why
4ob8r6wjRvg-01705-00360720-00360958 and being tenacious about our vision and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01706-00360959-00361167 our values and ensuring that everyone on
4ob8r6wjRvg-01707-00361168-00361399 the board has an opportunity
4ob8r6wjRvg-01708-00361400-00361734 to to bring diverse views to the table
4ob8r6wjRvg-01709-00361735-00361910 but to ensure that we're all on the same
4ob8r6wjRvg-01710-00361911-00362087 page in terms of why it is we're doing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01711-00362088-00362206 the work
4ob8r6wjRvg-01712-00362207-00362591 okay now one uh we are almost
4ob8r6wjRvg-01713-00362592-00362951 at time so uh two questions very short
4ob8r6wjRvg-01714-00362952-00363230 questions to to all three of you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01715-00363231-00363439 we are starting the course that you took
4ob8r6wjRvg-01716-00363440-00363615 uh we we can't have it uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01717-00363616-00363767 in person now so we are taking that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01718-00363768-00364015 course online that course is starting on
4ob8r6wjRvg-01719-00364016-00364119 first of march
4ob8r6wjRvg-01720-00364120-00364375 uh the applications are still open if
4ob8r6wjRvg-01721-00364376-00364478 you can just tell me
4ob8r6wjRvg-01722-00364479-00364815 um as as someone who who took the course
4ob8r6wjRvg-01723-00364816-00364999 uh would you recommend it to others
4ob8r6wjRvg-01724-00365000-00365175 because there are still
4ob8r6wjRvg-01725-00365176-00365503 70 75 people on this in this call
4ob8r6wjRvg-01726-00365504-00365791 why they should take it and the second
4ob8r6wjRvg-01727-00365792-00365991 any advice that you may have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01728-00365992-00366158 uh for the social entrepreneurs who are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01729-00366159-00366358 listening to you right now
4ob8r6wjRvg-01730-00366359-00366639 for all three of you let's begin with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01731-00366640-00366882 you paul you're on the screen
4ob8r6wjRvg-01732-00366883-00367191 okay um with the course the course
4ob8r6wjRvg-01733-00367192-00367295 enabled me as
4ob8r6wjRvg-01734-00367296-00367471 i mentioned earlier taking the course
4ob8r6wjRvg-01735-00367472-00367719 enabled me to think differently
4ob8r6wjRvg-01736-00367720-00367919 about the work that we were doing on the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01737-00367920-00368223 ground it gave me a new framework
4ob8r6wjRvg-01738-00368224-00368503 and the new framework uh social social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01739-00368504-00368615 enterprise
4ob8r6wjRvg-01740-00368616-00368910 um enabled me to think about ways in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01741-00368911-00369110 which we could strengthen the work we
4ob8r6wjRvg-01742-00369111-00369182 were doing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01743-00369183-00369334 ways in which we could approach it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01744-00369335-00369567 differently to have a greater impact
4ob8r6wjRvg-01745-00369568-00369639 whether that's
4ob8r6wjRvg-01746-00369640-00369951 how we talk about the work in um in
4ob8r6wjRvg-01747-00369952-00370039 approaching
4ob8r6wjRvg-01748-00370040-00370351 funders or even in approaching new
4ob8r6wjRvg-01749-00370352-00370503 people to sit on the board
4ob8r6wjRvg-01750-00370504-00370751 in any number of ways so it gave me a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01751-00370752-00370943 different framework upon which i could
4ob8r6wjRvg-01752-00370944-00371047 attach
4ob8r6wjRvg-01753-00371048-00371271 what i knew was happening on the ground
4ob8r6wjRvg-01754-00371272-00371399 through my experience
4ob8r6wjRvg-01755-00371400-00371719 so that was helpful it also gave me a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01756-00371720-00371839 much better sense
4ob8r6wjRvg-01757-00371840-00372078 of connection with many other people
4ob8r6wjRvg-01758-00372079-00372254 around the globe who are working
4ob8r6wjRvg-01759-00372255-00372702 similarly similarly to support similar
4ob8r6wjRvg-01760-00372703-00373015 visions and and missions whether it's
4ob8r6wjRvg-01761-00373016-00373191 in social enterprise for women's
4ob8r6wjRvg-01762-00373192-00373351 economic empowerment
4ob8r6wjRvg-01763-00373352-00373743 or supporting housing developments
4ob8r6wjRvg-01764-00373744-00373975 anywhere in the world it's it's a
4ob8r6wjRvg-01765-00373976-00374158 greater sense of solidarity
4ob8r6wjRvg-01766-00374159-00374367 and and just simply being able to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01767-00374368-00374543 benefit from the incredible knowledge
4ob8r6wjRvg-01768-00374544-00374710 and experience that you and farooq bring
4ob8r6wjRvg-01769-00374711-00374847 to the table
4ob8r6wjRvg-01770-00374848-00375087 also added incredible value so again
4ob8r6wjRvg-01771-00375088-00375223 thank you for that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01772-00375224-00375519 thank you uh magali and thank you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01773-00375520-00375671 personal entrepreneurs and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01774-00375672-00375910 and would you recommend the course i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01775-00375911-00376006 would definitely recommend
4ob8r6wjRvg-01776-00376007-00376199 the course because he changed my my
4ob8r6wjRvg-01777-00376200-00376430 company and i changed the way i i
4ob8r6wjRvg-01778-00376431-00376671 saw myself doing business going forward
4ob8r6wjRvg-01779-00376672-00376830 and most of all
4ob8r6wjRvg-01780-00376831-00376958 i think that it's really important that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01781-00376959-00377182 we understand this this class gives you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01782-00377183-00377406 a clear understanding of how powerful
4ob8r6wjRvg-01783-00377407-00377575 the social enterprises
4ob8r6wjRvg-01784-00377576-00377934 um are going to be uh as they can play
4ob8r6wjRvg-01785-00377935-00378167 play a key role into changing the future
4ob8r6wjRvg-01786-00378168-00378263 of the world
4ob8r6wjRvg-01787-00378264-00378454 uh when we're talking about reducing
4ob8r6wjRvg-01788-00378455-00378623 gaps we're talking about inclusion we're
4ob8r6wjRvg-01789-00378624-00378782 talking about zero poverty these are
4ob8r6wjRvg-01790-00378783-00378830 world
4ob8r6wjRvg-01791-00378831-00379087 wild issues that only can be addressed
4ob8r6wjRvg-01792-00379088-00379319 by social enterprises so i think that
4ob8r6wjRvg-01793-00379320-00379502 this course gives you the right tools
4ob8r6wjRvg-01794-00379503-00379623 and the right
4ob8r6wjRvg-01795-00379624-00379847 mindset which is the most important for
4ob8r6wjRvg-01796-00379848-00379927 youtube to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01797-00379928-00380167 understand how uh as a social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01798-00380168-00380343 entrepreneur you could contribute to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01799-00380344-00380423 that world
4ob8r6wjRvg-01800-00380424-00380775 change thank you magali thank you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01801-00380776-00381087 uh fati are you still there
4ob8r6wjRvg-01802-00381088-00381567 i'm here i'm here yes um
4ob8r6wjRvg-01803-00381568-00381775 most definitely i would recommend the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01804-00381776-00381982 course to everybody
4ob8r6wjRvg-01805-00381983-00382375 um for me usually when i go for a course
4ob8r6wjRvg-01806-00382376-00382663 i'm looking at how practical it is
4ob8r6wjRvg-01807-00382664-00382854 how easy is it for me to be able to
4ob8r6wjRvg-01808-00382855-00382967 apply it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01809-00382968-00383302 and for me being part of that course
4ob8r6wjRvg-01810-00383303-00383623 actually made it very easy
4ob8r6wjRvg-01811-00383624-00383878 to understand how to practicalize it
4ob8r6wjRvg-01812-00383879-00383991 going forward
4ob8r6wjRvg-01813-00383992-00384263 and so if even you have started a social
4ob8r6wjRvg-01814-00384264-00384430 enterprise and you are struggling with
4ob8r6wjRvg-01815-00384431-00384671 how to conceptualize the structure and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01816-00384672-00384767 everything
4ob8r6wjRvg-01817-00384768-00385047 being part of this course will actually
4ob8r6wjRvg-01818-00385048-00385151 let you
4ob8r6wjRvg-01819-00385152-00385430 clarify those misconceptions and make
4ob8r6wjRvg-01820-00385431-00385615 and have a clear focus
4ob8r6wjRvg-01821-00385616-00385999 how uh about going forward so definitely
4ob8r6wjRvg-01822-00386000-00386302 everybody should um be part of this
4ob8r6wjRvg-01823-00386303-00386343 course
4ob8r6wjRvg-01824-00386344-00386591 thank you thank you thank you father
4ob8r6wjRvg-01825-00386592-00386830 thank you maggie thank you pauline
4ob8r6wjRvg-01826-00386831-00387087 those who are interested as i said the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01827-00387088-00387351 course is still open
4ob8r6wjRvg-01828-00387352-00387678 and it will start march 1st
4ob8r6wjRvg-01829-00387679-00387902 online seven weeks thank you very much
4ob8r6wjRvg-01830-00387903-00388110 all three of you uh it's so nice to have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01831-00388111-00388167 you back
4ob8r6wjRvg-01832-00388168-00388334 uh thanks to the technology we can have
4ob8r6wjRvg-01833-00388335-00388534 you back uh in the in the
4ob8r6wjRvg-01834-00388535-00388854 uh through zoom back to cody again uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01835-00388855-00389039 all the best with you with your work uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01836-00389040-00389127 magali uh
4ob8r6wjRvg-01837-00389128-00389430 fati and uh and pauline and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01838-00389431-00389671 and we all we only want you to succeed
4ob8r6wjRvg-01839-00389672-00389758 succeed and
4ob8r6wjRvg-01840-00389759-00389951 further succeed and and carry forward
4ob8r6wjRvg-01841-00389952-00390087 that social mission
4ob8r6wjRvg-01842-00390088-00391439 thank you very much
4ob8r6wjRvg-01843-00391440-00391648 you
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40v3gXcJl74-00000-00000000-00000231 in our previous video lessons we have
40v3gXcJl74-00001-00000231-00000423 already discussed the inverse sine and
40v3gXcJl74-00002-00000424-00000647 the inverse cosine functions
40v3gXcJl74-00003-00000648-00000854 in this lesson we are going to study the
40v3gXcJl74-00004-00000855-00001143 other inverse trigonometric functions
40v3gXcJl74-00005-00001144-00001439 let us start with the inverse tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00006-00001440-00001726 function this is the graph of y equals
40v3gXcJl74-00007-00001727-00001942 tangent inverse x
40v3gXcJl74-00008-00001943-00002310 what is the domain of this function
40v3gXcJl74-00009-00002311-00002542 take note that this graph will actually
40v3gXcJl74-00010-00002543-00002783 continue here you have an arrow here so
40v3gXcJl74-00011-00002784-00003102 therefore your domain is the set of all
40v3gXcJl74-00012-00003103-00003438 real numbers you will get all possible
40v3gXcJl74-00013-00003439-00003911 x coordinates what about the
40v3gXcJl74-00014-00003911-00004006 range
40v3gXcJl74-00015-00004007-00004279 for your range notice that if we get all
40v3gXcJl74-00016-00004280-00004495 the y-coordinates so for example this
40v3gXcJl74-00017-00004496-00004702 one
40v3gXcJl74-00018-00004703-00005183 i'm just projecting everything to the
40v3gXcJl74-00019-00005184-00005670 y-axis because we are getting the
40v3gXcJl74-00020-00005671-00005959 y-coordinates
40v3gXcJl74-00021-00005960-00006254 what will we get in the y-axis
40v3gXcJl74-00022-00006255-00006470 take note that in the y-axis we were
40v3gXcJl74-00023-00006472-00006927 able to cover negative pi over 2 2
40v3gXcJl74-00024-00006928-00007327 pi over 2 but pi over 2 and negative pi
40v3gXcJl74-00025-00007328-00007598 over 2 are not included we have a
40v3gXcJl74-00026-00007600-00007831 horizontal asymptote here
40v3gXcJl74-00027-00007831-00008167 the range here is
40v3gXcJl74-00028-00008168-00008767 open interval negative pi over 2 2
40v3gXcJl74-00029-00008768-00008919 pi over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00030-00008920-00009127 this is the definition of the inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00031-00009128-00009278 tangent function
40v3gXcJl74-00032-00009279-00009591 y is equal to tangent inverse x if and
40v3gXcJl74-00033-00009592-00009751 only if
40v3gXcJl74-00034-00009752-00009999 tangent of y is equal to x again this is
40v3gXcJl74-00035-00010000-00010246 sort of like you're putting the tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00036-00010247-00010406 inverse on the other side but it will
40v3gXcJl74-00037-00010407-00010551 now become
40v3gXcJl74-00038-00010552-00010774 tangent take note that your x here
40v3gXcJl74-00039-00010775-00010983 belongs in the domain of the tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00040-00010984-00011103 inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00041-00011104-00011303 and the domain is a set of all real
40v3gXcJl74-00042-00011304-00011599 numbers so therefore this x here is any
40v3gXcJl74-00043-00011600-00011727 real number
40v3gXcJl74-00044-00011728-00011870 and y
40v3gXcJl74-00045-00011871-00012078 this is part of the range
40v3gXcJl74-00046-00012079-00012351 of your tangent inverse it lies in the
40v3gXcJl74-00047-00012352-00012638 open interval negative pi over 2 to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00048-00012639-00012943 over 2. and we know that the range of
40v3gXcJl74-00049-00012944-00013183 tangent inverse is the open interval
40v3gXcJl74-00050-00013184-00013583 negative pi over 2 to pi over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00051-00013584-00013758 just like with the inverse sine and
40v3gXcJl74-00052-00013759-00013983 inverse cosine we can
40v3gXcJl74-00053-00013984-00014215 perform cancellations as long as it
40v3gXcJl74-00054-00014216-00014455 satisfies certain conditions
40v3gXcJl74-00055-00014456-00014686 we have tangent of tangent inverse x is
40v3gXcJl74-00056-00014687-00014991 equal to x we can cancel this too
40v3gXcJl74-00057-00014991-00015327 if this quantity here lies in the range
40v3gXcJl74-00058-00015328-00015415 of
40v3gXcJl74-00059-00015416-00015894 tangent recall that the range of tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00060-00015895-00016094 function is
40v3gXcJl74-00061-00016095-00016303 the set of real numbers
40v3gXcJl74-00062-00016304-00016479 whereas here
40v3gXcJl74-00063-00016480-00016735 the outermost function is tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00064-00016736-00016935 inverse and what is the range of tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00065-00016936-00017047 inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00066-00017048-00017263 you get an angle
40v3gXcJl74-00067-00017264-00017535 which is between negative pi over 2 to
40v3gXcJl74-00068-00017536-00017719 pi over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00069-00017720-00017967 next we have the graph of y equals
40v3gXcJl74-00070-00017968-00018230 cotangent inverse x notice the
40v3gXcJl74-00071-00018231-00018407 difference of this one from y equals
40v3gXcJl74-00072-00018408-00018583 tangent inverse x
40v3gXcJl74-00073-00018584-00018799 cotangent inverse x is a decreasing
40v3gXcJl74-00074-00018800-00019014 function whereas the inverse tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00075-00019015-00019343 function is an increasing function what
40v3gXcJl74-00076-00019344-00019439 else
40v3gXcJl74-00077-00019440-00019847 this one has a horizontal asymptote at y
40v3gXcJl74-00078-00019848-00020199 equals zero and
40v3gXcJl74-00079-00020200-00020358 y equals pi
40v3gXcJl74-00080-00020359-00020599 whereas for the inverse tangent function
40v3gXcJl74-00081-00020600-00020814 its horizontal asymptotes
40v3gXcJl74-00082-00020815-00021111 occurs at y equals negative pi over two
40v3gXcJl74-00083-00021112-00021407 and y equals pi over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00084-00021408-00021663 what is the domain of this function so
40v3gXcJl74-00085-00021664-00021847 just like the inverse tangent function
40v3gXcJl74-00086-00021848-00022111 its domain is also the set of
40v3gXcJl74-00087-00022112-00022391 all real numbers the only difference
40v3gXcJl74-00088-00022392-00022678 with the inverse tangent is that
40v3gXcJl74-00089-00022679-00022943 its range is now ranging from
40v3gXcJl74-00090-00022944-00023214 zero up to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00091-00023215-00023583 and it's open
40v3gXcJl74-00092-00023584-00023814 so it's a bit similar to the range of
40v3gXcJl74-00093-00023815-00023983 inverse cosine
40v3gXcJl74-00094-00023984-00024383 however 0 and pi are not included
40v3gXcJl74-00095-00024384-00024558 here is the definition of the inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00096-00024559-00024807 cotangent function again y is equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00097-00024808-00025086 cotangent inverse x if and only if
40v3gXcJl74-00098-00025087-00025327 cotangent y is equal to x
40v3gXcJl74-00099-00025328-00025599 your x here is any real number because
40v3gXcJl74-00100-00025600-00025902 that is the domain of cotangent inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00101-00025904-00026078 and the answer
40v3gXcJl74-00102-00026079-00026414 to cotangent inverse of a number is an
40v3gXcJl74-00103-00026416-00026639 angle which is between
40v3gXcJl74-00104-00026639-00026999 0 to pi you can cancel cotangent and
40v3gXcJl74-00105-00027000-00027246 cotangent inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00106-00027247-00027599 as long as they satisfy this properties
40v3gXcJl74-00107-00027600-00027823 you can always cancel if
40v3gXcJl74-00108-00027824-00028087 you have cotangent but for cotangent
40v3gXcJl74-00109-00028088-00028383 inverse you can only cancel them if
40v3gXcJl74-00110-00028383-00028583 the expression here
40v3gXcJl74-00111-00028583-00028895 is between 0 to pi why is that since the
40v3gXcJl74-00112-00028895-00029151 outermost function is cotangent inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00113-00029152-00029399 it means that the answer is an angle
40v3gXcJl74-00114-00029400-00029583 which must be between
40v3gXcJl74-00115-00029583-00029783 zero to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00116-00029783-00030079 we also have the graph here of y equals
40v3gXcJl74-00117-00030080-00030439 secant inverse x take note that this one
40v3gXcJl74-00118-00030439-00030823 has a horizontal asymptote at
40v3gXcJl74-00119-00030824-00031118 y equals
40v3gXcJl74-00120-00031119-00031374 pi over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00121-00031375-00031607 what is the domain of y equals secant
40v3gXcJl74-00122-00031608-00031807 inverse x
40v3gXcJl74-00123-00031808-00032335 if you project the x coordinates
40v3gXcJl74-00124-00032336-00032935 of this points
40v3gXcJl74-00125-00032936-00033446 and for this one as well
40v3gXcJl74-00126-00033447-00033671 what did we cover in the x-axis we were
40v3gXcJl74-00127-00033672-00033839 able to cover
40v3gXcJl74-00128-00033840-00034079 this up this
40v3gXcJl74-00129-00034080-00034423 this will continue and starting from 1
40v3gXcJl74-00130-00034424-00034759 it will continue therefore our domain is
40v3gXcJl74-00131-00034760-00034983 the open interval
40v3gXcJl74-00132-00034984-00035271 negative infinity up to negative 1 this
40v3gXcJl74-00133-00035272-00035495 part union
40v3gXcJl74-00134-00035496-00035671 1 to
40v3gXcJl74-00135-00035672-00035846 infinity
40v3gXcJl74-00136-00035847-00036111 what about our range
40v3gXcJl74-00137-00036112-00036390 for our range we will project everything
40v3gXcJl74-00138-00036391-00036574 to the
40v3gXcJl74-00139-00036575-00037343 y-axis
40v3gXcJl74-00140-00037344-00037551 and what did we cover
40v3gXcJl74-00141-00037552-00037695 this
40v3gXcJl74-00142-00037696-00037862 interval
40v3gXcJl74-00143-00037863-00038030 take note that this is the point
40v3gXcJl74-00144-00038031-00038255 negative 1
40v3gXcJl74-00145-00038256-00038390 pi
40v3gXcJl74-00146-00038391-00038807 so therefore pi is included this is pi
40v3gXcJl74-00147-00038808-00039046 we have a horizontal asymptote at y
40v3gXcJl74-00148-00039047-00039271 equals pi over 2 so therefore pi over 2
40v3gXcJl74-00149-00039272-00039487 is not included and
40v3gXcJl74-00150-00039488-00039695 this is the point
40v3gXcJl74-00151-00039696-00039990 1 0 so therefore 0 is
40v3gXcJl74-00152-00039991-00040199 included
40v3gXcJl74-00153-00040200-00040415 hence our range is
40v3gXcJl74-00154-00040416-00040559 0 to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00155-00040560-00040999 but we take away
40v3gXcJl74-00156-00041000-00041271 pi over 2. here is the definition of
40v3gXcJl74-00157-00041272-00041518 inverse secant function y is equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00158-00041519-00041783 secant inverse x if and only if secant
40v3gXcJl74-00159-00041784-00042015 of y is equal to x
40v3gXcJl74-00160-00042016-00042295 x here lies in the domain and the domain
40v3gXcJl74-00161-00042296-00042383 is
40v3gXcJl74-00162-00042384-00042615 negative infinity up to negative one so
40v3gXcJl74-00163-00042616-00042783 that means x is less than or equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00164-00042784-00043046 negative one or x is greater than one
40v3gXcJl74-00165-00043047-00043318 and your y that's part of the range
40v3gXcJl74-00166-00043319-00043551 and we know that the range is from 0 to
40v3gXcJl74-00167-00043552-00043846 pi but actually you have to take away pi
40v3gXcJl74-00168-00043847-00044102 over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00169-00044103-00044383 again we can cancel this two
40v3gXcJl74-00170-00044384-00044646 as long as they satisfy certain
40v3gXcJl74-00171-00044647-00044774 conditions
40v3gXcJl74-00172-00044775-00045046 if the outermost function is
40v3gXcJl74-00173-00045047-00045174 secant
40v3gXcJl74-00174-00045175-00045487 it can only cancel if this thing here
40v3gXcJl74-00175-00045488-00045615 belongs
40v3gXcJl74-00176-00045616-00045862 in the range of secant and the range of
40v3gXcJl74-00177-00045863-00046111 secant recall that that is
40v3gXcJl74-00178-00046112-00046415 negative infinity to negative one union
40v3gXcJl74-00179-00046416-00046607 one to infinity
40v3gXcJl74-00180-00046608-00046990 and for secant inverse if the outermost
40v3gXcJl74-00181-00046991-00047215 function is secant inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00182-00047216-00047462 secant inverse is an angle between zero
40v3gXcJl74-00183-00047463-00047727 to pi that's why you have this but you
40v3gXcJl74-00184-00047728-00047855 cannot have
40v3gXcJl74-00185-00047856-00048102 pi over 2.
40v3gXcJl74-00186-00048103-00048318 for our last inverse econometric
40v3gXcJl74-00187-00048319-00048518 function we have y equals cosecant
40v3gXcJl74-00188-00048519-00048671 inverse of x
40v3gXcJl74-00189-00048672-00049039 we have a horizontal asymptote here at
40v3gXcJl74-00190-00049040-00049543 y equals zero let us identify the
40v3gXcJl74-00191-00049544-00049702 domain and
40v3gXcJl74-00192-00049703-00050015 range of this function for our domain we
40v3gXcJl74-00193-00050016-00050151 will get
40v3gXcJl74-00194-00050152-00050455 the points in our graph and
40v3gXcJl74-00195-00050456-00050823 project them along our
40v3gXcJl74-00196-00050824-00051086 x-axis that will give us the
40v3gXcJl74-00197-00051087-00051335 possible x-coordinates
40v3gXcJl74-00198-00051336-00051750 for this one as well
40v3gXcJl74-00199-00051751-00052014 and therefore we were able to cover
40v3gXcJl74-00200-00052015-00052335 negative 1 up to negative infinity
40v3gXcJl74-00201-00052336-00052559 and then
40v3gXcJl74-00202-00052560-00052782 1 to infinity as well
40v3gXcJl74-00203-00052783-00053182 negative 1 and 1 are both included hence
40v3gXcJl74-00204-00053183-00053438 the domain is
40v3gXcJl74-00205-00053439-00053782 negative infinity up to negative 1
40v3gXcJl74-00206-00053783-00053991 closed union
40v3gXcJl74-00207-00053991-00054359 1 to infinity for our range we will
40v3gXcJl74-00208-00054360-00055279 again project it along the y axis
40v3gXcJl74-00209-00055279-00055526 and therefore we will able to cover pi
40v3gXcJl74-00210-00055527-00056007 over 2 up to zero and then zero up to
40v3gXcJl74-00211-00056008-00056303 negative pi over two pi over two is
40v3gXcJl74-00212-00056304-00056519 included because of this point this is
40v3gXcJl74-00213-00056520-00056711 the point one
40v3gXcJl74-00214-00056712-00057015 pi over two is there included
40v3gXcJl74-00215-00057016-00057111 no
40v3gXcJl74-00216-00057112-00057471 zero here is not included this we have a
40v3gXcJl74-00217-00057472-00057726 horizontal asymptote here
40v3gXcJl74-00218-00057727-00057959 how about negative pi over 2 that's
40v3gXcJl74-00219-00057960-00058142 included as well because we have the
40v3gXcJl74-00220-00058144-00058350 point negative 1
40v3gXcJl74-00221-00058351-00058559 negative pi over
40v3gXcJl74-00222-00058560-00058926 2. so hence our range is
40v3gXcJl74-00223-00058927-00059054 negative
40v3gXcJl74-00224-00059055-00059271 pi over 2
40v3gXcJl74-00225-00059272-00059726 up to pi over 2 we just take away
40v3gXcJl74-00226-00059727-00059887 zero
40v3gXcJl74-00227-00059888-00060159 here is now the definition of inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00228-00060160-00060471 cosecant function y is equal to cosecant
40v3gXcJl74-00229-00060472-00060815 inverse x if and only af cosecant of y
40v3gXcJl74-00230-00060816-00060975 is equal to x
40v3gXcJl74-00231-00060976-00061230 the domain of cosecant inverse is
40v3gXcJl74-00232-00061232-00061526 negative infinity up to negative one
40v3gXcJl74-00233-00061527-00061854 union one to infinity and its range is
40v3gXcJl74-00234-00061855-00062215 also negative pi over 2 to pi over 2 but
40v3gXcJl74-00235-00062216-00062454 y cannot be equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00236-00062455-00062679 zero we again have this
40v3gXcJl74-00237-00062679-00063103 cancellation rules here
40v3gXcJl74-00238-00063104-00063447 memorizing the range of the four inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00239-00063448-00063694 trigonometric functions can be
40v3gXcJl74-00240-00063695-00063823 difficult
40v3gXcJl74-00241-00063824-00063982 here is what i
40v3gXcJl74-00242-00063983-00064191 do to memorize that
40v3gXcJl74-00243-00064191-00064415 i divide them into two
40v3gXcJl74-00244-00064416-00064606 the first group will be the ones whose
40v3gXcJl74-00245-00064607-00064838 range will be between negative pi over
40v3gXcJl74-00246-00064839-00065047 two and pi over two and the other one
40v3gXcJl74-00247-00065048-00065303 will be from
40v3gXcJl74-00248-00065304-00065487 zero to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00249-00065488-00065887 the first group will be sine inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00250-00065888-00066047 tangent inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00251-00066048-00066303 and cosecant inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00252-00066304-00066455 and the other group
40v3gXcJl74-00253-00066456-00066631 this one has
40v3gXcJl74-00254-00066632-00066871 range from 0 to pi this will be the
40v3gXcJl74-00255-00066872-00066999 other half
40v3gXcJl74-00256-00067000-00067615 cosine inverse cotangent inverse and
40v3gXcJl74-00257-00067616-00067791 secant inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00258-00067792-00068087 of course we have some exclusions
40v3gXcJl74-00259-00068088-00068287 what do i mean by this for tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00260-00068288-00068519 inverse the range is negative pi over 2
40v3gXcJl74-00261-00068520-00068750 to pi over 2 but this two are not
40v3gXcJl74-00262-00068751-00068999 included
40v3gXcJl74-00263-00069000-00069375 pi over 2 and negative pi over 2 are not
40v3gXcJl74-00264-00069376-00069494 included
40v3gXcJl74-00265-00069495-00069726 for a cosecant inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00266-00069727-00069911 we exclude
40v3gXcJl74-00267-00069912-00070119 0.
40v3gXcJl74-00268-00070120-00070294 how about for this group here for
40v3gXcJl74-00269-00070295-00070703 cotangent inverse we exclude zero pi and
40v3gXcJl74-00270-00070704-00071071 for secant inverse we are excluding
40v3gXcJl74-00271-00071072-00071294 pi over two
40v3gXcJl74-00272-00071295-00071526 let us have some examples find the exact
40v3gXcJl74-00273-00071527-00071671 value of
40v3gXcJl74-00274-00071672-00071831 the following
40v3gXcJl74-00275-00071832-00072111 first we have tangent inverse of 1 and
40v3gXcJl74-00276-00072112-00072311 tangent inverse of negative square root
40v3gXcJl74-00277-00072312-00072503 of 3. it's very important that you know
40v3gXcJl74-00278-00072504-00072726 the range because you have to know where
40v3gXcJl74-00279-00072727-00072943 your angle lies
40v3gXcJl74-00280-00072944-00073199 for tangent inverse this will give you
40v3gXcJl74-00281-00073200-00073511 an angle which is between
40v3gXcJl74-00282-00073512-00073815 negative pi over 2 to
40v3gXcJl74-00283-00073816-00074126 pi over 2 this one they belong to this
40v3gXcJl74-00284-00074127-00074262 group
40v3gXcJl74-00285-00074263-00074655 we are looking for an angle such that
40v3gXcJl74-00286-00074656-00074975 it lies here between negative pi over 2
40v3gXcJl74-00287-00074976-00075135 to
40v3gXcJl74-00288-00075136-00075391 pi over 2 and
40v3gXcJl74-00289-00075392-00075606 tangent of theta
40v3gXcJl74-00290-00075607-00075815 is equal to 1. if you put this on the
40v3gXcJl74-00291-00075816-00076079 other side it will become tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00292-00076080-00076303 what is that angle whose tangent is
40v3gXcJl74-00293-00076304-00076615 equal to 1 that is just
40v3gXcJl74-00294-00076616-00076831 pi over 4
40v3gXcJl74-00295-00076832-00077047 because its sine and cosine are just the
40v3gXcJl74-00296-00077048-00077415 same
40v3gXcJl74-00297-00077416-00077511 next
40v3gXcJl74-00298-00077512-00077791 tangent inverse of negative square root
40v3gXcJl74-00299-00077792-00078055 of three let that be equal to theta
40v3gXcJl74-00300-00078056-00078279 we are looking for an angle whose
40v3gXcJl74-00301-00078280-00078423 tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00302-00078424-00078647 is equal to negative square root of
40v3gXcJl74-00303-00078648-00078759 three
40v3gXcJl74-00304-00078760-00078999 since your tangent is negative you
40v3gXcJl74-00305-00079000-00079287 belong on the fourth quadrant
40v3gXcJl74-00306-00079288-00079406 and
40v3gXcJl74-00307-00079407-00079647 you can just write this as
40v3gXcJl74-00308-00079648-00079911 negative square root of three over two
40v3gXcJl74-00309-00079912-00080182 over positive
40v3gXcJl74-00310-00080183-00080438 one half and what is this special angle
40v3gXcJl74-00311-00080439-00080519 here
40v3gXcJl74-00312-00080520-00080806 the y coordinate is negative square root
40v3gXcJl74-00313-00080807-00081143 of three over two
40v3gXcJl74-00314-00081144-00081375 so therefore what is this angle it's a
40v3gXcJl74-00315-00081376-00081671 big angle so therefore this is pi
40v3gXcJl74-00316-00081672-00081935 over three what is now the name of this
40v3gXcJl74-00317-00081936-00082062 angle
40v3gXcJl74-00318-00082063-00082191 this is
40v3gXcJl74-00319-00082192-00082399 negative
40v3gXcJl74-00320-00082400-00082662 pi over three
40v3gXcJl74-00321-00082663-00082862 next we want to evaluate cosecant
40v3gXcJl74-00322-00082863-00083143 inverse of 2. we have to know first
40v3gXcJl74-00323-00083144-00083431 where our angle lies
40v3gXcJl74-00324-00083432-00083750 from here cosecant inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00325-00083751-00083975 the angle will be between negative pi
40v3gXcJl74-00326-00083976-00084262 over 2 to pi over 2 as well
40v3gXcJl74-00327-00084263-00084479 let this be equal to theta so we are
40v3gXcJl74-00328-00084480-00084726 looking for an angle such that 2 is
40v3gXcJl74-00329-00084727-00084862 equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00330-00084863-00085135 cosecant of theta whenever i have
40v3gXcJl74-00331-00085136-00085359 trigonometric function which is not sine
40v3gXcJl74-00332-00085360-00085623 cosine or tangent i always write them
40v3gXcJl74-00333-00085624-00085806 using those three
40v3gXcJl74-00334-00085807-00086031 i will now write cosecant of theta as
40v3gXcJl74-00335-00086032-00086287 one over sine theta
40v3gXcJl74-00336-00086288-00086535 because it's easier to imagine the angle
40v3gXcJl74-00337-00086536-00086767 if it's just expressed in terms of sine
40v3gXcJl74-00338-00086768-00087031 cosine and tangent so therefore this
40v3gXcJl74-00339-00087032-00087143 means that
40v3gXcJl74-00340-00087144-00087382 sine theta is equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00341-00087383-00087694 one-half
40v3gXcJl74-00342-00087695-00087935 here is one-half therefore we are on the
40v3gXcJl74-00343-00087936-00088262 first quadrant and what is this angle
40v3gXcJl74-00344-00088263-00088438 this is
40v3gXcJl74-00345-00088439-00088926 pi over six
40v3gXcJl74-00346-00088927-00089159 lastly we have cotangent inverse of
40v3gXcJl74-00347-00089160-00089294 negative one
40v3gXcJl74-00348-00089295-00089606 where does our angle lie
40v3gXcJl74-00349-00089607-00089838 for cotangent inverse it will give you
40v3gXcJl74-00350-00089839-00090367 an angle which lies on the interval
40v3gXcJl74-00351-00090368-00090518 0 to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00352-00090519-00090791 this means that negative 1 is equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00353-00090792-00091031 cotangent of theta since we have
40v3gXcJl74-00354-00091032-00091247 cotangent i want to express this in
40v3gXcJl74-00355-00091248-00091567 terms of tangent tangent theta is
40v3gXcJl74-00356-00091568-00091847 negative one our tangent is negative so
40v3gXcJl74-00357-00091848-00092143 therefore you lie on quadrant
40v3gXcJl74-00358-00092144-00092359 and what is that angle
40v3gXcJl74-00359-00092360-00092518 that is
40v3gXcJl74-00360-00092519-00092687 the angle on quadrant two whose
40v3gXcJl74-00361-00092688-00092887 reference angle is
40v3gXcJl74-00362-00092888-00093423 pi over four so therefore our theta is
40v3gXcJl74-00363-00093424-00093638 three pi over four
40v3gXcJl74-00364-00093639-00093847 let us have some more examples we want
40v3gXcJl74-00365-00093848-00094094 cotangent inverse of negative square
40v3gXcJl74-00366-00094095-00094350 root of three over three
40v3gXcJl74-00367-00094351-00094615 our angle theta will lie on which
40v3gXcJl74-00368-00094616-00094959 quadrant this angle will be from zero to
40v3gXcJl74-00369-00094960-00095215 pi let's get rid of the
40v3gXcJl74-00370-00095216-00095423 cotangent inverse this means that
40v3gXcJl74-00371-00095424-00095743 negative square root of 3 over 3
40v3gXcJl74-00372-00095744-00095871 is equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00373-00095872-00096111 cotangent theta let us write this in
40v3gXcJl74-00374-00096112-00096311 terms of tangent by
40v3gXcJl74-00375-00096312-00096462 flipping
40v3gXcJl74-00376-00096463-00096726 our fraction take note that negative
40v3gXcJl74-00377-00096727-00096943 square root of three over three is
40v3gXcJl74-00378-00096944-00097174 negative one over
40v3gXcJl74-00379-00097175-00097335 square root of three so therefore
40v3gXcJl74-00380-00097336-00097591 tangent theta is negative
40v3gXcJl74-00381-00097592-00097847 square root of three
40v3gXcJl74-00382-00097848-00098111 what is that angle this negative square
40v3gXcJl74-00383-00098112-00098374 root of 3 will just come from
40v3gXcJl74-00384-00098375-00098791 square root of 3 over 2 all over
40v3gXcJl74-00385-00098792-00099094 one-half what is that angle
40v3gXcJl74-00386-00099095-00099294 you are on the second quadrant because
40v3gXcJl74-00387-00099295-00099543 your tangent is negative
40v3gXcJl74-00388-00099544-00099831 and which one should be negative the
40v3gXcJl74-00389-00099832-00100182 x-coordinate so i will write
40v3gXcJl74-00390-00100183-00100359 the negative here
40v3gXcJl74-00391-00100360-00100750 because i'm on quadrant two what is this
40v3gXcJl74-00392-00100751-00101038 reference angle this is pi
40v3gXcJl74-00393-00101039-00101343 over three so therefore
40v3gXcJl74-00394-00101344-00101606 our theta here is
40v3gXcJl74-00395-00101607-00102015 pi minus pi over three that is two pi
40v3gXcJl74-00396-00102016-00102191 over three
40v3gXcJl74-00397-00102192-00102494 next we have secant inverse of
40v3gXcJl74-00398-00102495-00102639 negative one
40v3gXcJl74-00399-00102640-00102894 for secant inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00400-00102895-00103142 the angle must be between
40v3gXcJl74-00401-00103143-00103302 zero to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00402-00103303-00103623 so thus this means that negative one is
40v3gXcJl74-00403-00103624-00104015 equal to secant of theta
40v3gXcJl74-00404-00104016-00104247 in terms of cosine
40v3gXcJl74-00405-00104248-00104463 cosine theta is negative one where does
40v3gXcJl74-00406-00104464-00104615 that occur
40v3gXcJl74-00407-00104616-00105083 here so our theta is equal to
40v3gXcJl74-00408-00105083-00105247 pi
40v3gXcJl74-00409-00105248-00105334 next
40v3gXcJl74-00410-00105335-00105551 here are some cancellations let's see
40v3gXcJl74-00411-00105552-00105719 whether we can
40v3gXcJl74-00412-00105720-00105910 cancel
40v3gXcJl74-00413-00105911-00106358 here the outermost function is tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00414-00106359-00106647 when can we cancel this can we cancel it
40v3gXcJl74-00415-00106648-00106895 and will this be equal to 4
40v3gXcJl74-00416-00106896-00107110 yes because the outermost function is
40v3gXcJl74-00417-00107111-00107407 tangent and the range of tangent is
40v3gXcJl74-00418-00107408-00107695 the set of all real numbers so you can
40v3gXcJl74-00419-00107696-00107883 always cancel for
40v3gXcJl74-00420-00107883-00108134 tangent what about this one the
40v3gXcJl74-00421-00108135-00108383 outermost function is
40v3gXcJl74-00422-00108383-00108575 tangent inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00423-00108576-00108863 you can only cancel if the angle that
40v3gXcJl74-00424-00108864-00109007 you get
40v3gXcJl74-00425-00109008-00109319 lies on the interval negative pi over 2
40v3gXcJl74-00426-00109320-00109623 to pi over 2. clearly 2 pi over 3 does
40v3gXcJl74-00427-00109624-00109863 not fit the criteria
40v3gXcJl74-00428-00109864-00110086 therefore we cannot cancel
40v3gXcJl74-00429-00110088-00110295 this is not equal to 2 pi over 3.
40v3gXcJl74-00430-00110296-00110558 however 2 pi over 3 is a special angle
40v3gXcJl74-00431-00110559-00110783 you can easily compute the value
40v3gXcJl74-00432-00110783-00111134 tangent of two pi over three is
40v3gXcJl74-00433-00111135-00111343 square root of three over two over a
40v3gXcJl74-00434-00111344-00111607 negative one half
40v3gXcJl74-00435-00111608-00111734 this is
40v3gXcJl74-00436-00111735-00111895 negative
40v3gXcJl74-00437-00111896-00112151 square root of three and what is tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00438-00112152-00112439 of negative square root of 3 you will be
40v3gXcJl74-00439-00112440-00112671 on the fourth quadrant
40v3gXcJl74-00440-00112672-00112983 with reference angle of
40v3gXcJl74-00441-00112983-00113175 pi over 3
40v3gXcJl74-00442-00113176-00113534 as well therefore this angle here is
40v3gXcJl74-00443-00113535-00113671 negative
40v3gXcJl74-00444-00113672-00113871 pi over three
40v3gXcJl74-00445-00113872-00114110 for our last example we want to find
40v3gXcJl74-00446-00114111-00114463 tangent of cosine inverse of negative
40v3gXcJl74-00447-00114464-00114615 one third
40v3gXcJl74-00448-00114616-00114823 we have a cosine inverse here so
40v3gXcJl74-00449-00114824-00115110 therefore this is just an angle
40v3gXcJl74-00450-00115111-00115471 this now becomes tangent of theta where
40v3gXcJl74-00451-00115472-00115647 is our theta
40v3gXcJl74-00452-00115648-00115766 theta
40v3gXcJl74-00453-00115767-00116078 is the cosine inverse of a number and
40v3gXcJl74-00454-00116079-00116310 for cosine inverse you get an angle
40v3gXcJl74-00455-00116311-00116478 which is
40v3gXcJl74-00456-00116479-00116871 on what interval it will lie on
40v3gXcJl74-00457-00116872-00117031 zero to pi
40v3gXcJl74-00458-00117032-00117286 let me just go back to this one we have
40v3gXcJl74-00459-00117288-00117583 here that theta is
40v3gXcJl74-00460-00117583-00117943 cosine inverse of negative one third
40v3gXcJl74-00461-00117944-00118175 where theta is between zero to pi let's
40v3gXcJl74-00462-00118176-00118415 get rid of cosine inverse
40v3gXcJl74-00463-00118416-00118758 we will get cosine theta is negative
40v3gXcJl74-00464-00118759-00118919 one third
40v3gXcJl74-00465-00118920-00119119 take note we know that cosine theta is
40v3gXcJl74-00466-00119120-00119302 negative one third and we want tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00467-00119303-00119478 theta so therefore how do we proceed we
40v3gXcJl74-00468-00119479-00119647 just use our
40v3gXcJl74-00469-00119648-00119807 xyr
40v3gXcJl74-00470-00119808-00120095 since cosine is negative you are on the
40v3gXcJl74-00471-00120096-00120647 second quadrant so probably this point
40v3gXcJl74-00472-00120648-00120958 so therefore
40v3gXcJl74-00473-00120959-00121286 your x is negative and your y is
40v3gXcJl74-00474-00121288-00121414 positive
40v3gXcJl74-00475-00121415-00121575 cosine is
40v3gXcJl74-00476-00121576-00121895 x over r so therefore this is negative
40v3gXcJl74-00477-00121896-00122239 one and then r is three what is the
40v3gXcJl74-00478-00122240-00122486 relationship between these three
40v3gXcJl74-00479-00122488-00122790 you have x squared plus y squared
40v3gXcJl74-00480-00122791-00123054 is equal to r squared so therefore y
40v3gXcJl74-00481-00123055-00123302 squared is
40v3gXcJl74-00482-00123303-00123639 3 squared minus the square of negative 1
40v3gXcJl74-00483-00123640-00123766 which is
40v3gXcJl74-00484-00123767-00124143 9 minus 1 8. so hence y is square root
40v3gXcJl74-00485-00124144-00124358 of 8 so that's 2
40v3gXcJl74-00486-00124359-00124639 square root of 2. therefore our tangent
40v3gXcJl74-00487-00124640-00124847 of theta
40v3gXcJl74-00488-00124848-00125095 is equal to y over x
40v3gXcJl74-00489-00125096-00125271 so that's
40v3gXcJl74-00490-00125272-00125576 2 square root of 2
42R_2ZP-7CU-00000-00000025-00000063 [Music]
42R_2ZP-7CU-00001-00000064-00000286 hello and welcome to this mason
42R_2ZP-7CU-00002-00000287-00000591 library's tutorial on leganto
42R_2ZP-7CU-00003-00000592-00000774 in this video you will learn how to
42R_2ZP-7CU-00004-00000775-00000975 create a reading list
42R_2ZP-7CU-00005-00000976-00001231 we are going to look at leganto in full
42R_2ZP-7CU-00006-00001232-00001311 screen
42R_2ZP-7CU-00007-00001312-00001623 to better view the tool click on the
42R_2ZP-7CU-00008-00001623-00002030 open and new tab icon on the top right
42R_2ZP-7CU-00009-00002032-00002347 of the screen
42R_2ZP-7CU-00010-00002348-00002575 [Music]
42R_2ZP-7CU-00011-00002576-00002799 if this is your first time creating a
42R_2ZP-7CU-00012-00002800-00002934 reading list
42R_2ZP-7CU-00013-00002935-00003270 you will have two options
42R_2ZP-7CU-00014-00003271-00003615 create a reading list from scratch or
42R_2ZP-7CU-00015-00003615-00004038 upload a document with a reading list
42R_2ZP-7CU-00016-00004039-00004279 we are going to select create a reading
42R_2ZP-7CU-00017-00004280-00004495 list from scratch
42R_2ZP-7CU-00018-00004496-00004775 first enter a title and then add a
42R_2ZP-7CU-00019-00004776-00005118 description if you wish
42R_2ZP-7CU-00020-00005119-00005438 adding a description is not necessary
42R_2ZP-7CU-00021-00005439-00005638 but could be helpful to students
42R_2ZP-7CU-00022-00005639-00005775 especially
42R_2ZP-7CU-00023-00005776-00005975 in asynchronous online learning
42R_2ZP-7CU-00024-00005976-00006279 environments
42R_2ZP-7CU-00025-00006280-00006470 you will notice that you can start with
42R_2ZP-7CU-00026-00006472-00006623 a template
42R_2ZP-7CU-00027-00006623-00006878 you have a few choices but if you're not
42R_2ZP-7CU-00028-00006879-00006927 sure
42R_2ZP-7CU-00029-00006928-00007278 select blank
42R_2ZP-7CU-00030-00007279-00007631 start by creating a new section
42R_2ZP-7CU-00031-00007631-00007831 it could be helpful to organize your
42R_2ZP-7CU-00032-00007831-00008031 list the same way your course is
42R_2ZP-7CU-00033-00008031-00008278 organized
42R_2ZP-7CU-00034-00008279-00008542 for example if you use weekly content
42R_2ZP-7CU-00035-00008543-00008759 modules or folders
42R_2ZP-7CU-00036-00008760-00009046 your sections could also be organized by
42R_2ZP-7CU-00037-00009047-00009342 week
42R_2ZP-7CU-00038-00009343-00009606 adding dates is another way to help keep
42R_2ZP-7CU-00039-00009607-00009663 students
42R_2ZP-7CU-00040-00009664-00010110 on track
42R_2ZP-7CU-00041-00010111-00010423 now select create
42R_2ZP-7CU-00042-00010424-00010703 you are now ready to add items to your
42R_2ZP-7CU-00043-00010704-00010791 list
42R_2ZP-7CU-00044-00010792-00010991 which is covered in the next leganto
42R_2ZP-7CU-00045-00010992-00011342 tutorial
42R_2ZP-7CU-00046-00011343-00011606 thank you for watching this tutorial if
42R_2ZP-7CU-00047-00011607-00011751 you have other questions
42R_2ZP-7CU-00048-00011752-00011999 please refer to the leganto information
42R_2ZP-7CU-00049-00012000-00012078 guide
42R_2ZP-7CU-00050-00012079-00012687 located at infoguides.gmu.edu
42R_2ZP-7CU-00051-00012688-00012935 this can be found on the subject guides
42R_2ZP-7CU-00052-00012936-00012991 page
42R_2ZP-7CU-00053-00012991-00014008 under library resources and tools
42S2rj3MVpu-00000-00000008-00000206 let me ask you a question how much can
42S2rj3MVpu-00001-00000208-00000399 150 dollars get you
42S2rj3MVpu-00002-00000400-00000678 it is a pair of earbuds or is this a
42S2rj3MVpu-00003-00000679-00000831 dinner in a nice restaurant
42S2rj3MVpu-00004-00000832-00001143 or is this a very comfortable massage
42S2rj3MVpu-00005-00001144-00001454 do you know that 150 can pay for
42S2rj3MVpu-00006-00001455-00001767 a full year tuition for a kid in china
42S2rj3MVpu-00007-00001768-00002039 do you know that this 150 can also pay
42S2rj3MVpu-00008-00002039-00002079 for
42S2rj3MVpu-00009-00002080-00002302 a family who never had internet access
42S2rj3MVpu-00010-00002303-00002399 for few months
42S2rj3MVpu-00011-00002400-00002615 today i'm going to show you how to make
42S2rj3MVpu-00012-00002616-00002775 a bigger impact using
42S2rj3MVpu-00013-00002776-00003253 150 dollars
42S2rj3MVpu-00014-00003254-00003503 [Music]
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42S2rj3MVpu-00017-00003864-00004047 i help people transition from worker bee
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42S2rj3MVpu-00028-00005928-00006063 right now your property
42S2rj3MVpu-00029-00006064-00006279 is already in the tech industry or
42S2rj3MVpu-00030-00006280-00006478 trying to join the tech industry
42S2rj3MVpu-00031-00006479-00006806 150 may not be a lot of money for you
42S2rj3MVpu-00032-00006808-00007103 but it can make a huge impact do you
42S2rj3MVpu-00033-00007104-00007159 know that
42S2rj3MVpu-00034-00007159-00007470 in the boston area about 20 of their
42S2rj3MVpu-00035-00007472-00007703 families do not have computers at home
42S2rj3MVpu-00036-00007704-00007959 about 16 of the families do not have
42S2rj3MVpu-00037-00007959-00008087 internet access
42S2rj3MVpu-00038-00008088-00008295 can you imagine that no internet access
42S2rj3MVpu-00039-00008296-00008431 during proven
42S2rj3MVpu-00040-00008432-00008663 how can you even function during covert
42S2rj3MVpu-00041-00008664-00008863 you cannot even watch youtube right now
42S2rj3MVpu-00042-00008864-00009063 but there are people out there who are
42S2rj3MVpu-00043-00009064-00009255 underserved communities wasn't able to
42S2rj3MVpu-00044-00009256-00009478 get this fundamental easy access
42S2rj3MVpu-00045-00009479-00009767 to education to internet i believe in
42S2rj3MVpu-00046-00009768-00009895 education because
42S2rj3MVpu-00047-00009896-00010127 education is the biggest equalizer but
42S2rj3MVpu-00048-00010128-00010310 why i deeply care about those kids
42S2rj3MVpu-00049-00010311-00010535 because i was one of them i came to the
42S2rj3MVpu-00050-00010536-00010671 us with 800
42S2rj3MVpu-00051-00010672-00010878 in my pocket and have never been to a
42S2rj3MVpu-00052-00010879-00011006 vacation until
42S2rj3MVpu-00053-00011007-00011174 age of 20. this is the first time
42S2rj3MVpu-00054-00011175-00011374 sharing with anybody to be honest it is
42S2rj3MVpu-00055-00011375-00011519 a little bit embarrassing
42S2rj3MVpu-00056-00011520-00011806 to tell people that you were poor
42S2rj3MVpu-00057-00011807-00011895 because my
42S2rj3MVpu-00058-00011896-00012119 family always focus on two things they
42S2rj3MVpu-00059-00012120-00012310 focus on putting food on the table
42S2rj3MVpu-00060-00012311-00012559 and also focus on education like
42S2rj3MVpu-00061-00012560-00012646 vacation
42S2rj3MVpu-00062-00012647-00012879 is some rich people would do no we we
42S2rj3MVpu-00063-00012880-00013030 saved the money for something more
42S2rj3MVpu-00064-00013031-00013151 important than that
42S2rj3MVpu-00065-00013152-00013335 therefore never had vocation until age
42S2rj3MVpu-00066-00013336-00013599 of 20. and for a little while i was very
42S2rj3MVpu-00067-00013600-00013863 ashamed afraid to tell others and just
42S2rj3MVpu-00068-00013863-00014038 to face myself
42S2rj3MVpu-00069-00014040-00014263 but i realized that i cannot change my
42S2rj3MVpu-00070-00014263-00014494 past i should focus on my future
42S2rj3MVpu-00071-00014495-00014727 and gradually i start to embrace who i
42S2rj3MVpu-00072-00014728-00014911 am actually right now i'm very proud of
42S2rj3MVpu-00073-00014912-00014983 who i am
42S2rj3MVpu-00074-00014984-00015215 i was lucky i was able to make a
42S2rj3MVpu-00075-00015216-00015430 transformation through education but you
42S2rj3MVpu-00076-00015431-00015558 know that there's so many
42S2rj3MVpu-00077-00015559-00015783 little nancy's out there who didn't get
42S2rj3MVpu-00078-00015784-00015999 access to american education who didn't
42S2rj3MVpu-00079-00016000-00016038 know
42S2rj3MVpu-00080-00016040-00016215 they can actually apply for scholarship
42S2rj3MVpu-00081-00016216-00016439 to the us so i really want to help them
42S2rj3MVpu-00082-00016440-00016471 out
42S2rj3MVpu-00083-00016472-00016679 because i was one of them to be honest i
42S2rj3MVpu-00084-00016680-00016807 don't think i deserve talking to you
42S2rj3MVpu-00085-00016808-00016958 guys right now because i was those one
42S2rj3MVpu-00086-00016959-00017015 of kids
42S2rj3MVpu-00087-00017016-00017191 never can imagine i have a youtube
42S2rj3MVpu-00088-00017192-00017335 channel helping people out and teaching
42S2rj3MVpu-00089-00017336-00017527 people how to become a leader in america
42S2rj3MVpu-00090-00017528-00017719 but my long-term goal is really to help
42S2rj3MVpu-00091-00017720-00017894 more kids who are in the underserved
42S2rj3MVpu-00092-00017895-00018119 community to bring education to them
42S2rj3MVpu-00093-00018120-00018311 especially the entrepreneurship so let
42S2rj3MVpu-00094-00018312-00018558 me tell you what the 150 dollars can do
42S2rj3MVpu-00095-00018559-00018814 there is a real person a boy 14 years
42S2rj3MVpu-00096-00018815-00019014 old living in jiangxi province in china
42S2rj3MVpu-00097-00019015-00019127 which is the same province
42S2rj3MVpu-00098-00019128-00019391 i came from and her family income for
42S2rj3MVpu-00099-00019392-00019543 the entire year was only
42S2rj3MVpu-00100-00019544-00019855 1 000 us dollars his mom was sick
42S2rj3MVpu-00101-00019856-00020030 and instead make the living by
42S2rj3MVpu-00102-00020031-00020271 collecting recycling bottles the tuition
42S2rj3MVpu-00103-00020272-00020535 of him going to schools in china is only
42S2rj3MVpu-00104-00020536-00020671 150
42S2rj3MVpu-00105-00020672-00020847 and to be honest most tuitions are free
42S2rj3MVpu-00106-00020848-00021007 they just need to pay for books
42S2rj3MVpu-00107-00021008-00021255 and do those pay some like uh fees in
42S2rj3MVpu-00108-00021256-00021439 the schools given her family only makes
42S2rj3MVpu-00109-00021440-00021671 1 000 dollars per year it's really hard
42S2rj3MVpu-00110-00021672-00021822 to even send a kid to school then
42S2rj3MVpu-00111-00021823-00022014 recently i discovered this non-profit
42S2rj3MVpu-00112-00022015-00022111 organization called
42S2rj3MVpu-00113-00022112-00022414 ocef who's helping kids like that
42S2rj3MVpu-00114-00022415-00022607 and give them donations help them go
42S2rj3MVpu-00115-00022608-00022799 back to school and they also send
42S2rj3MVpu-00116-00022800-00022975 the grades from the kids and also get in
42S2rj3MVpu-00117-00022976-00023183 touch with the teachers and i was very
42S2rj3MVpu-00118-00023184-00023230 great
42S2rj3MVpu-00119-00023231-00023407 to find out that within a year and this
42S2rj3MVpu-00120-00023408-00023599 kid was the top five students
42S2rj3MVpu-00121-00023600-00023886 in the class education is an equalizer
42S2rj3MVpu-00122-00023887-00024007 let me also tell you another
42S2rj3MVpu-00123-00024008-00024230 story and this specific person lives in
42S2rj3MVpu-00124-00024231-00024350 boston massachusetts
42S2rj3MVpu-00125-00024351-00024607 her name is ethes she doesn't speak
42S2rj3MVpu-00126-00024608-00024775 english at all she speaks spanish and
42S2rj3MVpu-00127-00024776-00024927 you can see this actually in the video
42S2rj3MVpu-00128-00024928-00025558 hola saludamos et me nombre de
42S2rj3MVpu-00129-00025559-00025758 herself actually never had the computer
42S2rj3MVpu-00130-00025760-00025927 education didn't know how to
42S2rj3MVpu-00131-00025927-00026087 really use computers not mentioned to
42S2rj3MVpu-00132-00026088-00026287 build a website and there is a
42S2rj3MVpu-00133-00026288-00026511 non-profit organization in boston called
42S2rj3MVpu-00134-00026512-00026743 tech goes home they bring internet
42S2rj3MVpu-00135-00026744-00026887 access and computers
42S2rj3MVpu-00136-00026888-00027167 and trainings about technology to ethes
42S2rj3MVpu-00137-00027168-00027262 and by now
42S2rj3MVpu-00138-00027263-00027431 when we film this video ethan has
42S2rj3MVpu-00139-00027432-00027583 already launched a blog
42S2rj3MVpu-00140-00027583-00027758 we're showing her virtual craft business
42S2rj3MVpu-00141-00027760-00027911 so basically she has lots of
42S2rj3MVpu-00142-00027912-00028135 hand makes up she was able to host it on
42S2rj3MVpu-00143-00028136-00028279 a website on the blog
42S2rj3MVpu-00144-00028280-00028479 and have people to pay it and on top of
42S2rj3MVpu-00145-00028480-00028655 that her kids was able to use those
42S2rj3MVpu-00146-00028656-00028823 computers and internet access to do
42S2rj3MVpu-00147-00028824-00028911 remote learning
42S2rj3MVpu-00148-00028912-00029174 and he said that he loves learning maths
42S2rj3MVpu-00149-00029175-00029367 through the computers i'm so proud of
42S2rj3MVpu-00150-00029368-00029407 him
42S2rj3MVpu-00151-00029408-00029551 do you know that there's so many kids
42S2rj3MVpu-00152-00029552-00029790 like this that need help those are our
42S2rj3MVpu-00153-00029791-00029902 next generation
42S2rj3MVpu-00154-00029904-00030095 that's the reason i decide to do the
42S2rj3MVpu-00155-00030095-00030207 one-on-one matching
42S2rj3MVpu-00156-00030208-00030335 fundraising campaign for those
42S2rj3MVpu-00157-00030336-00030574 non-profit for free i personally
42S2rj3MVpu-00158-00030575-00030870 have working and supporting and donating
42S2rj3MVpu-00159-00030872-00031062 my own money to those non-profit in the
42S2rj3MVpu-00160-00031063-00031167 past few years
42S2rj3MVpu-00161-00031168-00031455 and i know their mission i also know the
42S2rj3MVpu-00162-00031456-00031535 funders
42S2rj3MVpu-00163-00031536-00031718 and the executive directors for the top
42S2rj3MVpu-00164-00031719-00031895 three organizations i'm supporting so
42S2rj3MVpu-00165-00031895-00032046 i'm doing a one-on-one matching
42S2rj3MVpu-00166-00032047-00032287 what it stands for is any dollar you
42S2rj3MVpu-00167-00032288-00032351 donate
42S2rj3MVpu-00168-00032352-00032558 i'm going to match one dollar as well up
42S2rj3MVpu-00169-00032560-00032695 to 10 000
42S2rj3MVpu-00170-00032695-00032887 and i'm also going to add more personal
42S2rj3MVpu-00171-00032888-00033015 money to it as well
42S2rj3MVpu-00172-00033016-00033246 i know you might be thinking oh i don't
42S2rj3MVpu-00173-00033247-00033415 trust them i think the biggest fear for
42S2rj3MVpu-00174-00033416-00033567 a lot of us especially chinese or
42S2rj3MVpu-00175-00033568-00033639 immigrant
42S2rj3MVpu-00176-00033640-00033887 you might be thinking oh what if they
42S2rj3MVpu-00177-00033888-00034062 waste out money or is a fraud
42S2rj3MVpu-00178-00034063-00034262 and to be honest because this is a big
42S2rj3MVpu-00179-00034263-00034407 concern for myself as well
42S2rj3MVpu-00180-00034408-00034671 and that's why i have met the funders
42S2rj3MVpu-00181-00034672-00034743 and those
42S2rj3MVpu-00182-00034744-00034927 executive directors for those non-profit
42S2rj3MVpu-00183-00034928-00035111 organizations and on top of that
42S2rj3MVpu-00184-00035112-00035262 myself had volunteered in those
42S2rj3MVpu-00185-00035263-00035487 nonprofit organizations so i know
42S2rj3MVpu-00186-00035488-00035655 they are doing a great job and they are
42S2rj3MVpu-00187-00035656-00035871 not going to throw our money away and
42S2rj3MVpu-00188-00035872-00035974 into some fraud
42S2rj3MVpu-00189-00035975-00036135 as well so i will personally hold them
42S2rj3MVpu-00190-00036136-00036335 accountable and watch their results by
42S2rj3MVpu-00191-00036336-00036407 spending
42S2rj3MVpu-00192-00036408-00036607 our money and helping those people and
42S2rj3MVpu-00193-00036608-00036751 on the other hand you might be also
42S2rj3MVpu-00194-00036752-00036823 thinking
42S2rj3MVpu-00195-00036824-00037046 i'm not rich why i'm donating i won't
42S2rj3MVpu-00196-00037047-00037223 wait until i make lots of money but do
42S2rj3MVpu-00197-00037224-00037302 you know that
42S2rj3MVpu-00198-00037303-00037559 you don't need to be rich to make impact
42S2rj3MVpu-00199-00037560-00037623 10
42S2rj3MVpu-00200-00037624-00037887 20 is good enough i know people out
42S2rj3MVpu-00201-00037888-00038071 there who was like well once i make 1
42S2rj3MVpu-00202-00038072-00038190 million 10 million dollars i would
42S2rj3MVpu-00203-00038191-00038279 donate believe me
42S2rj3MVpu-00204-00038280-00038423 once they hit 1 million 10 million
42S2rj3MVpu-00205-00038424-00038574 dollars this joke do not donate the
42S2rj3MVpu-00206-00038575-00038623 reason
42S2rj3MVpu-00207-00038624-00038790 is they have a different belief system
42S2rj3MVpu-00208-00038791-00038983 than us you don't need to wait until
42S2rj3MVpu-00209-00038984-00039055 you're rich
42S2rj3MVpu-00210-00039056-00039295 to make a big impact i personally
42S2rj3MVpu-00211-00039296-00039495 believe that the secret to happiness is
42S2rj3MVpu-00212-00039496-00039735 to give and serve a purpose bigger than
42S2rj3MVpu-00213-00039736-00039807 ourselves
42S2rj3MVpu-00214-00039808-00039959 that's also the reason you guys ask me
42S2rj3MVpu-00215-00039960-00040159 all the time nancy why you have time to
42S2rj3MVpu-00216-00040160-00040327 make youtube videos you have a full-time
42S2rj3MVpu-00217-00040328-00040359 job
42S2rj3MVpu-00218-00040360-00040502 also teaching people how to become
42S2rj3MVpu-00219-00040503-00040695 product manager how do you have so much
42S2rj3MVpu-00220-00040696-00040879 energy don't you feel burned out
42S2rj3MVpu-00221-00040880-00041118 i don't because i'm serving a purpose
42S2rj3MVpu-00222-00041119-00041262 speakers and ourselves this gave me so
42S2rj3MVpu-00223-00041263-00041462 much happiness and so much energy that's
42S2rj3MVpu-00224-00041463-00041495 why
42S2rj3MVpu-00225-00041496-00041727 i encourage you to do this as well now
42S2rj3MVpu-00226-00041728-00041887 let me share with you one of the top
42S2rj3MVpu-00227-00041888-00042062 three non-profit organizations
42S2rj3MVpu-00228-00042063-00042271 i support and i have met before the
42S2rj3MVpu-00229-00042272-00042399 number one organization
42S2rj3MVpu-00230-00042400-00042615 is tech goes home and they bring
42S2rj3MVpu-00231-00042616-00042830 technology to underserved communities
42S2rj3MVpu-00232-00042831-00042990 and teach them how to use computer and
42S2rj3MVpu-00233-00042991-00043190 bring wi-fi and bring computers to them
42S2rj3MVpu-00234-00043191-00043439 the second is called e-school for girls
42S2rj3MVpu-00235-00043440-00043607 and this is totally speaking to my
42S2rj3MVpu-00236-00043608-00043855 heart and they teach teenager girls for
42S2rj3MVpu-00237-00043856-00044087 underserved communities entrepreneurship
42S2rj3MVpu-00238-00044088-00044383 they represent the future of our nation
42S2rj3MVpu-00239-00044384-00044574 entrepreneurship the next ceo i'm so
42S2rj3MVpu-00240-00044575-00044679 proud of them
42S2rj3MVpu-00241-00044680-00044967 and third non-profit i support is called
42S2rj3MVpu-00242-00044968-00045087 boston glow
42S2rj3MVpu-00243-00045088-00045302 glow stands for girls leadership and
42S2rj3MVpu-00244-00045303-00045462 organized women they teach
42S2rj3MVpu-00245-00045463-00045702 teenage girls how to become a future
42S2rj3MVpu-00246-00045703-00045918 leader so those are the three non-profit
42S2rj3MVpu-00247-00045919-00046071 organizations i support
42S2rj3MVpu-00248-00046072-00046262 if you donate any money to them make
42S2rj3MVpu-00249-00046263-00046415 sure you mention that in my name in the
42S2rj3MVpu-00250-00046416-00046446 no
42S2rj3MVpu-00251-00046447-00046567 session and those non-profit
42S2rj3MVpu-00252-00046568-00046711 organizations going to crack all the
42S2rj3MVpu-00253-00046712-00046927 donation together and i'm going to match
42S2rj3MVpu-00254-00046928-00047135 your donation on 101 matching as well on
42S2rj3MVpu-00255-00047136-00047318 top of that domain my own money as well
42S2rj3MVpu-00256-00047319-00047502 and there is a bonus non-profit called
42S2rj3MVpu-00257-00047503-00047718 ocef which is the one supporting the boy
42S2rj3MVpu-00258-00047719-00047823 i told you earlier
42S2rj3MVpu-00259-00047824-00047958 and they recently brought it to my
42S2rj3MVpu-00260-00047959-00048086 attention because some of my friends
42S2rj3MVpu-00261-00048087-00048239 started recommending them to me
42S2rj3MVpu-00262-00048240-00048423 so myself is going to do some donation
42S2rj3MVpu-00263-00048424-00048623 to that organization as well to start to
42S2rj3MVpu-00264-00048624-00048830 validate are they fraud as they real
42S2rj3MVpu-00265-00048831-00049007 are they really making a big impact or
42S2rj3MVpu-00266-00049008-00049230 not so i'm going to keep you guys posted
42S2rj3MVpu-00267-00049231-00049518 in 2021 on top of that if you know
42S2rj3MVpu-00268-00049519-00049790 any non-profit you think they need my
42S2rj3MVpu-00269-00049791-00049871 support
42S2rj3MVpu-00270-00049872-00050039 please let me know because i'm going to
42S2rj3MVpu-00271-00050040-00050262 make any free video for any non-profit
42S2rj3MVpu-00272-00050263-00050383 to help them to achieve
42S2rj3MVpu-00273-00050384-00050590 their mission as well my final words for
42S2rj3MVpu-00274-00050591-00050830 you is that there's no small donation
42S2rj3MVpu-00275-00050831-00051079 there's only a bigger impact you never
42S2rj3MVpu-00276-00051080-00051350 know how much this 150 dollars can make
42S2rj3MVpu-00277-00051351-00051614 impact on a person's life okay i wish
42S2rj3MVpu-00278-00051615-00051863 all of you a fantastic 2021
42S2rj3MVpu-00279-00051864-00052119 i'm gonna see you soon this is dr nancy
42S2rj3MVpu-00280-00052120-00052287 feel free to check out other videos i
42S2rj3MVpu-00281-00052288-00052414 produce for you we produce
42S2rj3MVpu-00282-00052415-00052582 lots of great content in december and
42S2rj3MVpu-00283-00052583-00052791 make sure you like and subscribe and
42S2rj3MVpu-00284-00052791-00053514 i'm going to see you soon bye
42S2rj3MVpu-00285-00053515-00053999 [Music]
42S2rj3MVpu-00286-00054000-00054208 you
43nVHsuZOlg-00000-00000008-00000286 hello i'm here today on the sides of
43nVHsuZOlg-00001-00000287-00000471 flygate in particular on the site of
43nVHsuZOlg-00002-00000472-00000655 what is going to be the new
43nVHsuZOlg-00003-00000656-00000943 indigo hotel right next to the new 82
43nVHsuZOlg-00004-00000944-00001150 million pound railway station of course
43nVHsuZOlg-00005-00001151-00001383 behind me the flygate buildings are
43nVHsuZOlg-00006-00001384-00001599 going up this place is going somewhere
43nVHsuZOlg-00007-00001600-00001759 about now here with jen at the end from
43nVHsuZOlg-00008-00001760-00002023 the castle bridge developers you're
43nVHsuZOlg-00009-00002023-00002247 building the indigo hotel so what do we
43nVHsuZOlg-00010-00002248-00002407 expect to see here and when do you think
43nVHsuZOlg-00011-00002408-00002567 it will be ready yeah so we're building
43nVHsuZOlg-00012-00002568-00002823 100 bedroom hotel indigo um with a
43nVHsuZOlg-00013-00002824-00002975 ground floor restaurant and bar that
43nVHsuZOlg-00014-00002976-00003166 will welcome guests from outside the
43nVHsuZOlg-00015-00003167-00003351 city as well so we want to bring people
43nVHsuZOlg-00016-00003352-00003638 from the surrounding areas to this hotel
43nVHsuZOlg-00017-00003639-00003863 and make it a destination for coventry
43nVHsuZOlg-00018-00003864-00004038 and it will be a real landmark in this
43nVHsuZOlg-00019-00004039-00004206 sidewalk because this is a prime site
43nVHsuZOlg-00020-00004207-00004415 overlooking the city as well of course
43nVHsuZOlg-00021-00004416-00004591 yes the whole ground floor will be the
43nVHsuZOlg-00022-00004592-00004775 restaurant and bar and there'll be live
43nVHsuZOlg-00023-00004776-00005006 activity here people can walk from the
43nVHsuZOlg-00024-00005007-00005254 station to the center of course coventry
43nVHsuZOlg-00025-00005255-00005470 has got some great hotels coomabbing of
43nVHsuZOlg-00026-00005471-00005735 course country in telegraph hotel that's
43nVHsuZOlg-00027-00005736-00005879 located right in the heart of the city
43nVHsuZOlg-00028-00005880-00006038 this is going to compete with that it's
43nVHsuZOlg-00029-00006039-00006151 going to be
43nVHsuZOlg-00030-00006152-00006359 similar quality or even better perhaps
43nVHsuZOlg-00031-00006360-00006575 absolutely so so this will be a direct
43nVHsuZOlg-00032-00006576-00006846 competitor for the telegraph hotel it's
43nVHsuZOlg-00033-00006847-00007006 got a restaurant and bar just like the
43nVHsuZOlg-00034-00007008-00007246 telegraph hotel but what we see even
43nVHsuZOlg-00035-00007247-00007367 though it's going to be a direct
43nVHsuZOlg-00036-00007368-00007551 competitor we think there's enough
43nVHsuZOlg-00037-00007552-00007727 guests in the area that can come and
43nVHsuZOlg-00038-00007728-00007998 stay within coventry great thank you jen
43nVHsuZOlg-00039-00008000-00008263 now look this cement's really coventry
43nVHsuZOlg-00040-00008264-00008455 growing reputation is a place for
43nVHsuZOlg-00041-00008456-00008671 visitors to come and of course we want
43nVHsuZOlg-00042-00008672-00008967 great places for them to stay and the
43nVHsuZOlg-00043-00008968-00009295 indigo hotel a real voter confidence in
43nVHsuZOlg-00044-00009296-00009510 our city a vote of confidence and
43nVHsuZOlg-00045-00009511-00009760 coventry
43E5Bbxjwsk-00000-00000158-00000682 hi everybody welcome to TWU our facebook
43E5Bbxjwsk-00001-00000683-00001358 life very happy to be here this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00002-00001359-00001787 afternoon this is a little surprise
43E5Bbxjwsk-00003-00001788-00002156 facebook life even though we have able
43E5Bbxjwsk-00004-00002157-00002306 to make a little bit announcement
43E5Bbxjwsk-00005-00002307-00002683 yesterday so hope some of you able to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00006-00002684-00003175 make a schedule time to be with me here
43E5Bbxjwsk-00007-00003176-00003676 so welcome everybody
43E5Bbxjwsk-00008-00003677-00004168 so today's topic is to overcome
43E5Bbxjwsk-00009-00004169-00004735 loneliness by embracing loneliness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00010-00004736-00005318 that's really like a main discussion but
43E5Bbxjwsk-00011-00005319-00005554 the main title is the Rayleigh leg of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00012-00005555-00006034 finding a home of Aden so so first of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00013-00006035-00006416 all I think according to the option
43E5Bbxjwsk-00014-00006417-00007153 teaching according to the principle of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00015-00007154-00007567 Joce there is a line in a burn one of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00016-00007568-00007919 the buildings or some text it says they
43E5Bbxjwsk-00017-00007920-00008123 do in a beacon socket there one is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00018-00008123-00008257 eternal nature
43E5Bbxjwsk-00019-00008258-00008513 geppu con su casa the dome is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00020-00008514-00008798 intelligent so it's like the one who
43E5Bbxjwsk-00021-00008799-00009191 understands it it's like a discovering a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00022-00009192-00009542 treasure of Kingdom and one will find
43E5Bbxjwsk-00023-00009543-00009889 everything one needs within it so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00024-00009890-00010353 basically some sense that if if one
43E5Bbxjwsk-00025-00010354-00010745 understand one's own true essence then
43E5Bbxjwsk-00026-00010746-00010973 if I could discovering a treasure of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00027-00010974-00011199 Kingdom that one finds everything within
43E5Bbxjwsk-00028-00011200-00011624 so so they're basically a sense of home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00029-00011625-00012155 is within ourself it's already there
43E5Bbxjwsk-00030-00012156-00012463 already been there already will be there
43E5Bbxjwsk-00031-00012464-00013049 so so the way we experience some sense
43E5Bbxjwsk-00032-00013050-00013419 of lost of connection
43E5Bbxjwsk-00033-00013421-00013912 the sense of disconnectedness a sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00034-00013913-00014401 homeless sense of not belong belong in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00035-00014402-00014759 somewhere so this is I think it's very
43E5Bbxjwsk-00036-00014760-00015011 important that it's not exactly like
43E5Bbxjwsk-00037-00015012-00015476 that so it's it's really very important
43E5Bbxjwsk-00038-00015477-00016121 to able to look at within and find that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00039-00016122-00016604 sense of home within so so that's that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00040-00016605-00016862 is the main thing that we are trying to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00041-00016863-00017204 talk so I wanted to kind of gradually go
43E5Bbxjwsk-00042-00017205-00017402 with this um some sense of experiences
43E5Bbxjwsk-00043-00017403-00017936 of it and see how far we can go so let's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00044-00017937-00018182 discuss a little bit about a sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00045-00018183-00018566 loneliness how do you feel the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00046-00018567-00018830 loneliness so basically I'm asking a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00047-00018831-00019049 question to all of you how many of you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00048-00019050-00019550 feel loneliness in general in life how
43E5Bbxjwsk-00049-00019551-00019853 many of you feel loneliness these days
43E5Bbxjwsk-00050-00019854-00020183 how many of you you feel loneliness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00051-00020184-00020696 today or even this very moment and how
43E5Bbxjwsk-00052-00020697-00020927 does this experience of loneliness of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00053-00020928-00021368 you feel some sense of that no Lena's is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00054-00021369-00021881 basically for example I was just
43E5Bbxjwsk-00055-00021882-00022138 noticing today in the crowd of people as
43E5Bbxjwsk-00056-00022139-00022508 I can always not help myself observing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00057-00022509-00022907 around me and noticing somebody the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00058-00022908-00023339 person who is at least from my point of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00059-00023340-00023594 view seems like a feeling lonely and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00060-00023595-00023873 wanting to connect and looking around
43E5Bbxjwsk-00061-00023874-00024389 and then that means some sense of there
43E5Bbxjwsk-00062-00024390-00024689 is no this person is not feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00063-00024690-00025538 connected to himself that means not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00064-00025539-00025832 connected to the base that means not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00065-00025833-00026057 connected to his own breath
43E5Bbxjwsk-00066-00026058-00026302 that means not connected to his own
43E5Bbxjwsk-00067-00026304-00026633 field of energy
43E5Bbxjwsk-00068-00026633-00026879 but looking for connection elsewhere so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00069-00026880-00027173 is looking around so that some sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00070-00027174-00027533 days it's not connected there so we
43E5Bbxjwsk-00071-00027533-00027917 recognize by noticing that feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00072-00027918-00028231 disconnected longing for connection
43E5Bbxjwsk-00073-00028232-00028532 looking for connection and not finding a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00074-00028533-00028795 connection and kind of losing it's like
43E5Bbxjwsk-00075-00028797-00029083 an Internet us trying to search a signal
43E5Bbxjwsk-00076-00029085-00029504 Wi-Fi signal and and and particularly
43E5Bbxjwsk-00077-00029505-00029744 not having the password and you don't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00078-00029745-00029957 have the password to cut to be connected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00079-00029958-00030220 but you are seeking for connection but
43E5Bbxjwsk-00080-00030222-00030389 as you are seeking for connection you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00081-00030389-00030560 are draining your battery you are losing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00082-00030561-00030806 your energy so you clearly feel that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00083-00030807-00031090 this person was doing there so we all do
43E5Bbxjwsk-00084-00031091-00031277 that it's not question about that I
43E5Bbxjwsk-00085-00031277-00031424 don't do that we all do that but
43E5Bbxjwsk-00086-00031425-00031733 question is that when we do that do you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00087-00031733-00031958 recognize do you have do you have a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00088-00031958-00032458 solution how do you not keep on doing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00089-00032460-00032735 that and not keep on losing your energy
43E5Bbxjwsk-00090-00032736-00033179 and battery but recognize and rest and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00091-00033180-00033652 connect back to yourself and to connect
43E5Bbxjwsk-00092-00033653-00034061 to that home basically sense of home so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00093-00034062-00034256 so then so there's number one so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00094-00034257-00034402 basically it's very important to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00095-00034403-00034562 recognize this so my question to all of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00096-00034563-00035017 you is first of all do you feel lonely
43E5Bbxjwsk-00097-00035018-00035369 when you do do you recognize is it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00098-00035370-00035618 important for you to recognize do you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00099-00035619-00035837 know you have a solution do you know you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00100-00035838-00036115 can overcome that and redirect your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00101-00036116-00036410 attention to deeper place a home then
43E5Bbxjwsk-00102-00036411-00036599 can you do that can you do that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00103-00036600-00036796 frequently so that is the question that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00104-00036797-00037106 I'm trying to raise here of course if
43E5Bbxjwsk-00105-00037107-00037373 you look at the sense of loneliness it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00106-00037374-00037673 just very much subjective experience is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00107-00037674-00037987 it's the only way you are feeling this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00108-00037988-00038282 very moment has nothing to do with not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00109-00038283-00038490 having home has nothing to do with
43E5Bbxjwsk-00110-00038491-00038785 nothing doing is something with anything
43E5Bbxjwsk-00111-00038786-00039352 it's just you are somehow not connected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00112-00039353-00039926 enough in yourself with yourself a home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00113-00039927-00039977 in you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00114-00039978-00040412 sell the essence of your being that true
43E5Bbxjwsk-00115-00040413-00040711 source of healing that inner refuge
43E5Bbxjwsk-00116-00040712-00040915 whatever you wanted to mention
43E5Bbxjwsk-00117-00040916-00041227 call it we are not connected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00118-00041228-00041512 disconnected or not connected enough
43E5Bbxjwsk-00119-00041513-00041732 therefore you're longing you're seeking
43E5Bbxjwsk-00120-00041733-00041987 you are searching and you're losing your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00121-00041988-00042389 energy and that pattern is so frequent
43E5Bbxjwsk-00122-00042390-00042704 as so many hours people do in life it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00123-00042705-00042995 just terrible things to do so basically
43E5Bbxjwsk-00124-00042996-00043244 the question is are you interested to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00125-00043245-00043478 recognize do you feel confident enough
43E5Bbxjwsk-00126-00043479-00043724 that you you have a solution you can
43E5Bbxjwsk-00127-00043725-00043958 change you can find home within can you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00128-00043959-00044273 rest in can you connect to there can you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00129-00044274-00044665 nourish from that source and instead of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00130-00044666-00044912 losing energy continuously by doing that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00131-00044913-00045212 can you regain can you charge yourself
43E5Bbxjwsk-00132-00045213-00045565 continuously by connecting to that home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00133-00045566-00046057 within so this is a question so of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00134-00046058-00046361 course you know as I said is a very
43E5Bbxjwsk-00135-00046362-00046613 subjective experience the way we feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00136-00046614-00047020 and sometimes people can feel so many
43E5Bbxjwsk-00137-00047021-00047624 hours weeks days months years big part
43E5Bbxjwsk-00138-00047625-00047896 of our life feeling that disconnected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00139-00047897-00048320 and looking for home while while home is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00140-00048321-00048640 within you it is so close to you in a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00141-00048641-00049055 job saying it says in a way it says like
43E5Bbxjwsk-00142-00049056-00049280 I've never been away from you I'm always
43E5Bbxjwsk-00143-00049281-00049763 with you I'm always in you I am I am the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00144-00049764-00050165 closest one to you but if you if you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00145-00050166-00050411 don't bring attention toward me then you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00146-00050412-00050639 lose the connection to me so that is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00147-00050640-00050876 some sense of the teaching always talks
43E5Bbxjwsk-00148-00050877-00051182 about it so this is what I want over but
43E5Bbxjwsk-00149-00051183-00051686 it will reflect how it's possible we are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00150-00051687-00052052 not disconnected we cannot be
43E5Bbxjwsk-00151-00052053-00052504 disconnected we are always connected the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00152-00052505-00052826 connection or the connectivity it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00153-00052827-00053204 always there in us
43E5Bbxjwsk-00154-00053204-00053791 there is impossible to be disconnected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00155-00053792-00054162 because we are always connected we are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00156-00054163-00054786 always connected to each other we never
43E5Bbxjwsk-00157-00054787-00055079 lose their connection but we lose the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00158-00055080-00055428 awareness of their connection but we
43E5Bbxjwsk-00159-00055429-00055578 never lose the connection the difference
43E5Bbxjwsk-00160-00055579-00056115 is between losing connection or losing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00161-00056116-00056379 the awareness of connection so you are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00162-00056379-00056660 always connected for example right now
43E5Bbxjwsk-00163-00056661-00056966 imagine all these billions of cell in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00164-00056967-00057120 your body they are all connected to each
43E5Bbxjwsk-00165-00057121-00057345 other the heart is communicating with
43E5Bbxjwsk-00166-00057346-00057570 your brain the brain is communicating
43E5Bbxjwsk-00167-00057571-00057819 with the rest of your body your feelings
43E5Bbxjwsk-00168-00057820-00057962 are communicating with each other
43E5Bbxjwsk-00169-00057963-00058287 everything in your body is kind of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00170-00058288-00058590 working and connecting and exchanging
43E5Bbxjwsk-00171-00058591-00059037 the informations but more when you are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00172-00059038-00059202 connected when you're aware of that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00173-00059203-00059658 connection the communication highway the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00174-00059659-00059729 channels
43E5Bbxjwsk-00175-00059730-00060130 the energy centers the elements all
43E5Bbxjwsk-00176-00060132-00060392 opens up the path opens up
43E5Bbxjwsk-00177-00060394-00060746 communications opens up then
43E5Bbxjwsk-00178-00060747-00060969 informations are connected with each
43E5Bbxjwsk-00179-00060970-00061272 other everywhere receiving the right
43E5Bbxjwsk-00180-00061273-00061569 information to do the right things so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00181-00061570-00061812 it's it's more like being aware of it or
43E5Bbxjwsk-00182-00061813-00062061 not it's not about you're disconnected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00183-00062062-00062435 we are always connected to the nature
43E5Bbxjwsk-00184-00062436-00062816 there's not basically there is not a one
43E5Bbxjwsk-00185-00062817-00063252 moment you're alone do you agree with me
43E5Bbxjwsk-00186-00063253-00063738 are you you're always with nature you're
43E5Bbxjwsk-00187-00063739-00064016 always with somebody you're always with
43E5Bbxjwsk-00188-00064016-00064304 your body you're always with your breath
43E5Bbxjwsk-00189-00064305-00064538 you're always due to your feelings
43E5Bbxjwsk-00190-00064539-00064872 you're if you believe the refuge it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00191-00064873-00065424 always there the people you are you love
43E5Bbxjwsk-00192-00065425-00065769 you care you are connected it's always
43E5Bbxjwsk-00193-00065770-00066324 there so then you're never alone you are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00194-00066325-00066427 never on
43E5Bbxjwsk-00195-00066428-00066775 if you are aware of that this there is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00196-00066776-00067054 no way to feel loneliness because you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00197-00067055-00067309 are not lonely you don't have to feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00198-00067310-00067908 lonely because you are always connected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00199-00067909-00068278 but it's clearly is a question about are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00200-00068279-00068524 your senses are open enough your eye is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00201-00068525-00068782 open enough your heart is open enough
43E5Bbxjwsk-00202-00068783-00069100 your feelings are open enough to look at
43E5Bbxjwsk-00203-00069101-00069481 around to see to connect with somebody
43E5Bbxjwsk-00204-00069482-00069694 sitting next to you connect with
43E5Bbxjwsk-00205-00069695-00069861 somebody who's important in your life
43E5Bbxjwsk-00206-00069862-00070201 connected with your spiritual guide to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00207-00070202-00070542 connect with your friends and families
43E5Bbxjwsk-00208-00070543-00070921 they are always there so it's the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00209-00070922-00071247 question about are you open and feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00210-00071248-00071725 they're all or with you and feel that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00211-00071726-00072049 connect connection and not feel lonely
43E5Bbxjwsk-00212-00072050-00072349 so that is I think it's very very
43E5Bbxjwsk-00213-00072350-00072586 important so basically what I'm saying
43E5Bbxjwsk-00214-00072587-00072955 you are never alone there is no reason
43E5Bbxjwsk-00215-00072956-00073312 to feel loneliness if if you are aware
43E5Bbxjwsk-00216-00073313-00073723 of your connection to all to the nature
43E5Bbxjwsk-00217-00073724-00074026 and to everyone and to your own body to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00218-00074027-00074263 your own speech to your own mind to your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00219-00074264-00074770 own inner refuge to to guardians and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00220-00074771-00075109 angels protectors buddhas and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00221-00075110-00075679 bodhisattvas masters who everybody that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00222-00075680-00076060 you admire who inspires you who are you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00223-00076061-00076395 are guide who they are always present
43E5Bbxjwsk-00224-00076396-00076687 it's just question about bringing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00225-00076688-00076912 attention to their and feeling the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00226-00076913-00077155 connection and not feeling lonely so so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00227-00077156-00077476 that is I think what I wanted to say so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00228-00077477-00077839 I wanted to do a short practice resume I
43E5Bbxjwsk-00229-00077840-00078043 wanted maybe talk a little bit about the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00230-00078044-00078778 practice so again once again so one that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00231-00078779-00079441 we are always connected and even idea of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00232-00079442-00079777 loneliness the feeling of loneliness the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00233-00079778-00079849 only way
43E5Bbxjwsk-00234-00079850-00080290 the loneliness can survive and live and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00235-00080291-00080707 continue and drain us and and feel as
43E5Bbxjwsk-00236-00080708-00081073 kind of depress is when we do not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00237-00081074-00081397 acknowledge our loneliness when we don't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00238-00081398-00081733 recognize our loneliness when we don't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00239-00081734-00082042 feel enough our loneliness when we are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00240-00082043-00082354 not open to our loneliness when we not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00241-00082355-00082722 respect our loneliness when we don't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00242-00082723-00083044 bring sense of some sense of care and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00243-00083045-00083359 kindness to loneliness and when was that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00244-00083360-00083614 loneliness is that when you have it is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00245-00083615-00084027 the kind of pain it is that kind of pain
43E5Bbxjwsk-00246-00084028-00084700 a sense of disconnected are lost right
43E5Bbxjwsk-00247-00084701-00084952 it's kind of disconnected a sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00248-00084953-00085426 lost sense of not belonging sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00249-00085427-00085651 being alone that's what we are feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00250-00085652-00086092 right so so basically that feeling it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00251-00086093-00086460 in a way it's a pain that some people
43E5Bbxjwsk-00252-00086461-00086911 identify and live with it so the only
43E5Bbxjwsk-00253-00086912-00087184 way to overcome is to recognize
43E5Bbxjwsk-00254-00087185-00087625 acknowledge go closer to it accommodate
43E5Bbxjwsk-00255-00087626-00088108 host and care and bring some kindness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00256-00088109-00088447 and then you all we all know what I
43E5Bbxjwsk-00257-00088448-00088894 always say is give a spacious luminous
43E5Bbxjwsk-00258-00088895-00089371 warm hug to this deep feeling of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00259-00089372-00089578 loneliness so you are going closer
43E5Bbxjwsk-00260-00089579-00090094 closer closer acknowledging it when you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00261-00090095-00090598 do that I guarantee you that's the sense
43E5Bbxjwsk-00262-00090599-00090994 of disconnectedness or this deep sense
43E5Bbxjwsk-00263-00090995-00091500 of lack of energy or the deep sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00264-00091501-00091924 feeling alone will you will overcome
43E5Bbxjwsk-00265-00091925-00092386 that's it so clearly you will you will
43E5Bbxjwsk-00266-00092387-00092590 able to overcome that so I think that's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00267-00092591-00092940 kind of very important to reflect within
43E5Bbxjwsk-00268-00092941-00093267 so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00269-00093268-00093657 it's question about yeah identity
43E5Bbxjwsk-00270-00093658-00093832 connected with the pain and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00271-00093833-00094149 acknowledging it recognizing caring and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00272-00094150-00094432 also not only recognizing and caring
43E5Bbxjwsk-00273-00094433-00094803 because something has been weak damaged
43E5Bbxjwsk-00274-00094804-00095323 lost it it's not easy to feel coming
43E5Bbxjwsk-00275-00095324-00095653 back feeling the connection feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00276-00095654-00095911 sense of warm feeling sense of kindness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00277-00095912-00096223 feeling sense of energy feeling sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00278-00096224-00096496 a playfulness feeling sense of able to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00279-00096497-00096876 manifest something so it's not only some
43E5Bbxjwsk-00280-00096877-00097120 sense of feeling okay but feeling enough
43E5Bbxjwsk-00281-00097121-00097579 vitality that wanting to ache wanting to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00282-00097580-00097842 go out wanting to meet people wanting to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00283-00097843-00098299 feel brave enough to take risk wanting
43E5Bbxjwsk-00284-00098300-00098659 to create something and so it's feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00285-00098660-00098911 like a you have support enough out there
43E5Bbxjwsk-00286-00098912-00099166 world whole universe is supporting your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00287-00099167-00099379 whole friends are supporting you the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00288-00099380-00099613 strangers are supporting you to your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00289-00099614-00099781 people who are around you are supporting
43E5Bbxjwsk-00290-00099782-00100209 this feeling of sense of very open
43E5Bbxjwsk-00291-00100210-00100701 joyful playful confidence that feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00292-00100702-00101068 need to come out after you acknowledge
43E5Bbxjwsk-00293-00101069-00101232 the loneliness because the loneliness is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00294-00101233-00101448 kind of some sense of paralyzed
43E5Bbxjwsk-00295-00101449-00101698 experiences who not feeling enough life
43E5Bbxjwsk-00296-00101699-00102007 and able to feeling lively enough and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00297-00102008-00102271 take actions and move out so but when
43E5Bbxjwsk-00298-00102272-00102463 you are able to acknowledge and heal it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00299-00102464-00102891 clear it then you life comes back the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00300-00102892-00103131 motivation comes back the confidence
43E5Bbxjwsk-00301-00103132-00103414 comes back energy comes back the some
43E5Bbxjwsk-00302-00103415-00103719 sense of playfulness comes back some
43E5Bbxjwsk-00303-00103720-00103944 confidence able willing to take some
43E5Bbxjwsk-00304-00103945-00104266 risks coming back because the fear is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00305-00104267-00104491 what preventing to experience a life
43E5Bbxjwsk-00306-00104492-00104821 fully and a depression and the sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00307-00104822-00105066 loneliness is clearly contributing to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00308-00105067-00105670 these things so so first recognizing and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00309-00105671-00106332 acknowledging the feeling of loneliness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00310-00106333-00106582 recognizing and acknowledging
43E5Bbxjwsk-00311-00106583-00106717 that feeling kind of sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00312-00106718-00107226 homelessness or not belonging not being
43E5Bbxjwsk-00313-00107227-00107521 that sense I think so important to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00314-00107522-00107688 recognize so basically what I'm saying
43E5Bbxjwsk-00315-00107689-00108100 it's recognizing that and and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00316-00108101-00108442 acknowledging that and going closer to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00317-00108443-00108640 it rather than going away from it that's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00318-00108641-00108946 very very important part then so in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00319-00108947-00109410 order to do that obviously first of all
43E5Bbxjwsk-00320-00109411-00109683 you do what we call three precious pills
43E5Bbxjwsk-00321-00109684-00110047 or so anyway let's do that let's do the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00322-00110048-00110344 practice okay instead of me continuously
43E5Bbxjwsk-00323-00110345-00110617 explaining it let's I will guide through
43E5Bbxjwsk-00324-00110618-00110890 the practice and then we can talk a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00325-00110891-00111183 little bit afterward the practice see
43E5Bbxjwsk-00326-00111184-00111532 how all of your feeling and if all of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00327-00111533-00111763 you are able to see something more clear
43E5Bbxjwsk-00328-00111764-00111969 recognize something more clear and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00329-00111970-00112255 definitely have some solutions to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00330-00112256-00112657 overcome some guidance so that's the my
43E5Bbxjwsk-00331-00112658-00112935 go-to able to give some solution for
43E5Bbxjwsk-00332-00112936-00113050 you've not only talked about the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00333-00113051-00114391 problems so sit comfortably
43E5Bbxjwsk-00334-00114392-00114841 just take out stell breath breathe deep
43E5Bbxjwsk-00335-00114842-00115575 and whatever discomfort unsettling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00336-00115576-00116062 feelings thoughts emotions energies that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00337-00116063-00117860 you are feeling just breathe it out
43E5Bbxjwsk-00338-00117861-00119177 again
43E5Bbxjwsk-00339-00119178-00119408 breathe out breathe it out deep breathe
43E5Bbxjwsk-00340-00119409-00119972 it out end of the exhalation the rest in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00341-00119973-00120872 that base be aware of any discomfort in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00342-00120873-00121114 your body breath mind
43E5Bbxjwsk-00343-00121115-00121576 be aware feel the connections of that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00344-00121577-00121874 breathe deep breathe in deep and breathe
43E5Bbxjwsk-00345-00121875-00123050 out that discomfort again
43E5Bbxjwsk-00346-00123051-00123611 every end of exhalation come closer come
43E5Bbxjwsk-00347-00123613-00123839 breathe in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00348-00123840-00124479 so continuously breathe deep and the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00349-00124480-00124839 most importantly our cyber Sangha this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00350-00124840-00125159 very moment we are all supporting each
43E5Bbxjwsk-00351-00125160-00125981 other here we have about 240 people live
43E5Bbxjwsk-00352-00125982-00126231 practicing or the sitting together just
43E5Bbxjwsk-00353-00126232-00126709 feel the connection then we are all
43E5Bbxjwsk-00354-00126710-00127092 connected to each other you are not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00355-00127093-00127839 alone we are always connected and this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00356-00127840-00128117 moment we are all cyber Sangha
43E5Bbxjwsk-00357-00128118-00128397 particularly actively participating feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00358-00128398-00128829 connection feel the sense of that you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00359-00128830-00129419 are receiving support I am clearly here
43E5Bbxjwsk-00360-00129420-00129816 my intentions I here to be with all of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00361-00129817-00130116 you I am with all of you I am supporting
43E5Bbxjwsk-00362-00130117-00130479 all of you and I clearly feel all your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00363-00130480-00132551 support we are all connected not alone
43E5Bbxjwsk-00364-00132552-00133436 our connection it's supported by this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00365-00133437-00133961 webcast Facebook life but it's always
43E5Bbxjwsk-00366-00133962-00134150 there regardless of the Facebook or not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00367-00134151-00134495 if there it's supporting it and we are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00368-00134496-00134783 more aware of its support and we feel it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00369-00134784-00135476 trying to fill them with that sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00370-00135477-00136258 support bring your full attention inward
43E5Bbxjwsk-00371-00136259-00136591 three door or three precious pills
43E5Bbxjwsk-00372-00136592-00136901 practice of three precious pill bring
43E5Bbxjwsk-00373-00136902-00137716 your first attention to your body
43E5Bbxjwsk-00374-00137717-00138104 usually when somebody is lonely they're
43E5Bbxjwsk-00375-00138105-00138527 disconnected to their source to their
43E5Bbxjwsk-00376-00138528-00138848 feelings thoughts to their body then
43E5Bbxjwsk-00377-00138849-00139265 they look out they lose the connection
43E5Bbxjwsk-00378-00139266-00139516 to their body they look for connection
43E5Bbxjwsk-00379-00139517-00139894 outside to someone someone or something
43E5Bbxjwsk-00380-00139895-00140341 but this is like the edge dot you bring
43E5Bbxjwsk-00381-00140342-00140729 the attention inward you feel connection
43E5Bbxjwsk-00382-00140730-00141065 to your body feel it from the sole of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00383-00141066-00141518 the feet till to the crown feel the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00384-00141519-00142150 connection
43E5Bbxjwsk-00385-00142151-00142781 particularly feel the connection to the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00386-00142782-00143396 stillness in your body this sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00387-00143397-00143858 being very still feel that stillness be
43E5Bbxjwsk-00388-00143859-00144077 aware of that stillness in your body
43E5Bbxjwsk-00390-00147767-00148335 second door door of the speech be aware
43E5Bbxjwsk-00391-00148336-00149903 of the silence feel the silence here
43E5Bbxjwsk-00392-00149904-00150522 silence listen to the silence rest in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00393-00150523-00151054 this silence be aware of this collective
43E5Bbxjwsk-00394-00151055-00151181 silence
43E5Bbxjwsk-00395-00151182-00152063 connection of collective silence and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00396-00152064-00152537 through this there's a deep sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00398-00156528-00156809 third the door of the mind or door oh
43E5Bbxjwsk-00399-00156810-00157451 the heart feel that openness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00400-00157452-00158177 spaciousness in your heart the nature of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00401-00158178-00158545 heart the nature of our mind it's always
43E5Bbxjwsk-00402-00158546-00159860 open and luminous
43E5Bbxjwsk-00403-00159861-00160081 one of the very important Buddhist
43E5Bbxjwsk-00404-00160082-00160607 scripture says cemg wrong Hirasawa the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00405-00160608-00162432 nature of mind is always luminous
43E5Bbxjwsk-00406-00162433-00162812 one of the great tax in ins changing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00407-00162813-00162995 energy burns off the attacks
43E5Bbxjwsk-00408-00162996-00163743 it says the salsa me along the mirror of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00409-00163744-00164357 luminous mind our mind is always open
43E5Bbxjwsk-00410-00164358-00164682 and luminous heart is always open and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00411-00164683-00166684 luminous just feel that be aware of that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00412-00166685-00167590 a sense of home Vidhan can be only
43E5Bbxjwsk-00413-00167591-00167920 experienced through these three doors
43E5Bbxjwsk-00414-00167921-00168307 when you are connected to the body
43E5Bbxjwsk-00415-00168308-00168777 through the stillness in the body
43E5Bbxjwsk-00416-00168778-00169299 through this you'll find home within
43E5Bbxjwsk-00417-00169300-00169798 that's why it's called door door work to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00418-00169799-00170337 your home through the silence of speech
43E5Bbxjwsk-00419-00170338-00170623 by feeling it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00420-00170624-00171006 hearing it connected to it resting in it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00421-00171007-00172081 you find home within the inner stillness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00422-00172082-00172771 is your home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00423-00172772-00173107 and when you're being aware of it when
43E5Bbxjwsk-00424-00173108-00173584 you're resting in it you are at home and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00425-00173585-00173968 people feel the sense of home they don't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00426-00173969-00174300 look for connection they don't look out
43E5Bbxjwsk-00427-00174301-00174633 for connection they look out for someone
43E5Bbxjwsk-00428-00174634-00175219 they don't get lost in nothing because
43E5Bbxjwsk-00429-00175220-00175554 they are at home and connected to their
43E5Bbxjwsk-00430-00175555-00176466 inner home this sense of home through
43E5Bbxjwsk-00431-00176467-00176857 the door of open openness or the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00432-00176858-00177199 spaciousness of the heart that is the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00433-00177200-00177711 door toward finding home within if you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00434-00177712-00177954 enter through your heart being aware of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00435-00177955-00178236 that spacious openness that luminous and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00436-00178237-00178608 your heart and you enter through that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00437-00178609-00179127 you come to a place where you feel home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00438-00179128-00180057 with him home it's where you feel free
43E5Bbxjwsk-00439-00180058-00180685 home is where you feel comfortable home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00440-00180686-00181159 is where you feel safe home it's where
43E5Bbxjwsk-00441-00181160-00181413 you feel you don't have to please
43E5Bbxjwsk-00442-00181414-00182344 anybody you can be yourself and you're
43E5Bbxjwsk-00443-00182345-00182731 the ability to be yourself can only come
43E5Bbxjwsk-00444-00182732-00183078 when you feel connection to home within
43E5Bbxjwsk-00445-00183079-00183559 to the inner source so when we lose the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00446-00183560-00183808 connection to that and we seek the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00447-00183809-00184132 connection to that then we look outside
43E5Bbxjwsk-00448-00184133-00184606 and we sometimes spend so much of our
43E5Bbxjwsk-00449-00184607-00185248 time trying to please a collective
43E5Bbxjwsk-00450-00185249-00185765 social pains expectations or unfulfilled
43E5Bbxjwsk-00451-00185766-00186125 somebody's expectation that their life
43E5Bbxjwsk-00452-00186126-00186437 to fulfill like trying to fulfill the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00453-00186438-00186914 parents expectations or or anybody's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00454-00186915-00187775 expectations without realizing the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00455-00187776-00188718 importance of it and suffering
43E5Bbxjwsk-00456-00188719-00189465 so so just go deep first deep enough in
43E5Bbxjwsk-00457-00189466-00190208 that stillness silence spaciousness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00458-00190209-00190587 through that find a sense of home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00459-00190588-00191403 wouldn't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00460-00191404-00191844 and always feel that we are all here
43E5Bbxjwsk-00461-00191845-00192114 together and we are all supporting each
43E5Bbxjwsk-00462-00192115-00193403 other
43E5Bbxjwsk-00463-00193404-00194228 and gradually reflect in your life how
43E5Bbxjwsk-00464-00194229-00194882 long you have been feeling lonely
43E5Bbxjwsk-00465-00194883-00195402 loneliness feeling disconnection to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00466-00195403-00196410 yourself feeling not sense of home not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00467-00196411-00196709 sense of warmth not sense of that fire
43E5Bbxjwsk-00468-00196710-00197079 nor sense of that inspiration joy energy
43E5Bbxjwsk-00469-00197080-00197792 liveliness creativity engaging in life
43E5Bbxjwsk-00470-00197793-00198240 enjoying appreciating sharing your life
43E5Bbxjwsk-00471-00198241-00198603 with others how you have been feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00472-00198604-00198813 how long you have been feeling lack of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00473-00198814-00199847 these energies
43E5Bbxjwsk-00474-00199848-00200168 we are all reflecting on this right now
43E5Bbxjwsk-00475-00200169-00200413 we are all helping each other to reflect
43E5Bbxjwsk-00476-00200414-00200681 on them we are giving our SEM this sense
43E5Bbxjwsk-00477-00200682-00201013 of luxury this time it's a this time as
43E5Bbxjwsk-00478-00201014-00201463 a gift for ourselves to each other to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00479-00201464-00202198 reflect honestly because that feeling of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00480-00202199-00202559 loneliness what it really needs is to be
43E5Bbxjwsk-00481-00202560-00203347 recognized acknowledged and cared and we
43E5Bbxjwsk-00482-00203348-00203602 are helping each other to do that this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00483-00203603-00204931 moment
43E5Bbxjwsk-00484-00204932-00205419 now go closer to that feeling of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00485-00205421-00206640 loneliness see just go closer like you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00486-00206641-00206973 would go closer to somebody who is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00487-00206975-00207294 lonely somebody who is in need somebody
43E5Bbxjwsk-00488-00207296-00207663 who is in pain somebody who care deeply
43E5Bbxjwsk-00489-00207664-00208057 respect deeply you would go closer right
43E5Bbxjwsk-00490-00208058-00208525 so go closer to this a feeling of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00491-00208526-00209016 loneliness a lost or disconnected or
43E5Bbxjwsk-00492-00209017-00209271 lack of energy noch amol invaded knuckle
43E5Bbxjwsk-00493-00209273-00209938 fire I'm sure all these words are making
43E5Bbxjwsk-00494-00209939-00210255 the senses to different people sometime
43E5Bbxjwsk-00495-00210256-00210486 somebody might feel all of them
43E5Bbxjwsk-00496-00210487-00210886 sometimes someone might clearly feel one
43E5Bbxjwsk-00497-00210887-00211346 of them stronger than the other ones
43E5Bbxjwsk-00498-00211348-00212229 means it's going closer knowing better
43E5Bbxjwsk-00499-00212230-00212623 connecting deeper with this pain of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00500-00212623-00213469 loneliness the only way to heal is to go
43E5Bbxjwsk-00501-00213469-00215255 closer not away from it so go closer
43E5Bbxjwsk-00502-00215256-00215923 be open be presence feel sense of warmth
43E5Bbxjwsk-00503-00215925-00217213 to work that loneliness like giving a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00504-00217214-00217781 spacious luminous warm hug to that pain
43E5Bbxjwsk-00505-00217782-00218092 of loneliness that you're experiencing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00506-00218094-00218546 that you have and we are all helping to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00508-00221609-00221888 in the Dobson teachings there's a word
43E5Bbxjwsk-00509-00221889-00222542 as we say certo certo naked ly seeing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00510-00222542-00222949 and naked ly liberating so liberation
43E5Bbxjwsk-00511-00222950-00223384 the freedom the healing of that pain of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00512-00223385-00223834 loneliness can happen if you observe it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00513-00223835-00224004 naked Li
43E5Bbxjwsk-00514-00224005-00224269 that means it's kind of I know a little
43E5Bbxjwsk-00515-00224270-00224674 complicated kind of metaphor but what it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00516-00224675-00225154 means it means being fully presence and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00517-00225155-00225676 open like you will be completely open
43E5Bbxjwsk-00518-00225677-00226180 with dear friend who is in pain that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00519-00226181-00226723 like that so it's not someone it's it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00520-00226724-00227610 yourself
43E5Bbxjwsk-00521-00227611-00228304 when you go close when you be presents
43E5Bbxjwsk-00522-00228305-00228721 with this pain of loneliness that you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00523-00228721-00228921 have been experiencing for very long
43E5Bbxjwsk-00524-00228923-00229338 time and has been very long time
43E5Bbxjwsk-00525-00229339-00229977 suppress denied avoided unacknowledged
43E5Bbxjwsk-00526-00229978-00230377 now you are we are helping each other
43E5Bbxjwsk-00527-00230378-00230887 fully to come closer to it and we are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00528-00230888-00231187 being fully present with it this very
43E5Bbxjwsk-00529-00231188-00231616 moment this is a very sacred moment for
43E5Bbxjwsk-00530-00231617-00231934 our cybers on the meditation that we are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00531-00231935-00232267 being closest as possible that one can
43E5Bbxjwsk-00532-00232267-00232596 be to oneself and when we are being with
43E5Bbxjwsk-00533-00232598-00233158 that presence with that pain of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00534-00233159-00233963 loneliness
43E5Bbxjwsk-00535-00233964-00234348 and whatever experiences sadness joy
43E5Bbxjwsk-00536-00234350-00235167 tears emotions coming let it come
43E5Bbxjwsk-00537-00235169-00235553 sometimes feeling of sadness can arise
43E5Bbxjwsk-00538-00235554-00235823 or joy can arise a feeling of being
43E5Bbxjwsk-00539-00235823-00236129 touched feeling of being acknowledged
43E5Bbxjwsk-00540-00236130-00236450 feeling of being appreciated feeling of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00541-00236451-00236581 being seen
43E5Bbxjwsk-00542-00236582-00237067 finally and when you feel that you feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00543-00237069-00237236 being very touched we're feeling very
43E5Bbxjwsk-00544-00237237-00237902 joy the emotions can arise the tears can
43E5Bbxjwsk-00545-00237903-00238334 come allow it whatever is coming but not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00546-00238335-00239717 manipulate anything as as you're
43E5Bbxjwsk-00547-00239717-00240091 practicing gradually you witness that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00548-00240092-00240634 sense of pain or loneliness it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00549-00240635-00241358 dissolving or not so strong presence or
43E5Bbxjwsk-00550-00241359-00242021 feeling much more space
43E5Bbxjwsk-00551-00242023-00243123 clearing allow it the wind of his wisdom
43E5Bbxjwsk-00552-00243123-00243941 wind clears the clouds of loneliness and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00553-00243942-00245669 began to see a clear luminous inner sky
43E5Bbxjwsk-00554-00245669-00246314 that a clear luminous inner sky it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00555-00246315-00246854 your home that unbounded sacred space
43E5Bbxjwsk-00556-00246855-00247834 it's your home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00557-00247835-00248435 the sense of being in your body in that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00558-00248436-00249014 stillness and that silence and that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00559-00249015-00249581 warmth being in that experience it's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00560-00249582-00251765 your home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00561-00251766-00253387 finding home written
43E5Bbxjwsk-00562-00253388-00254248 as long as you are connected in that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00563-00254248-00254536 sacred space through your body through
43E5Bbxjwsk-00564-00254537-00254848 your breath through your mind you are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00565-00254848-00255577 remaining at home you are not losing any
43E5Bbxjwsk-00566-00255578-00256048 energy you are like a charging the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00567-00256048-00256446 energy because the source is the source
43E5Bbxjwsk-00568-00256448-00256719 of power and you are our right now
43E5Bbxjwsk-00569-00256719-00257083 connected to the source and you are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00570-00257084-00257721 charging and nourishing yourself when
43E5Bbxjwsk-00571-00257723-00259567 you're at home you're charging
43E5Bbxjwsk-00572-00259567-00260101 okay you can those you close your eyes
43E5Bbxjwsk-00573-00260102-00260644 you can open now so how is the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00574-00260645-00261196 meditation
43E5Bbxjwsk-00575-00261196-00261660 how was the meditation how many of you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00576-00261661-00261973 are feeling lonely how many of you have
43E5Bbxjwsk-00577-00261973-00262410 clearly able to recognize clearly able
43E5Bbxjwsk-00578-00262411-00262753 to recognize that you have been feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00579-00262754-00263038 sense of lonely oh you do feel sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00580-00263039-00263257 lonely quite frequently but not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00581-00263258-00263575 recognize it totally ignore it right I'm
43E5Bbxjwsk-00582-00263576-00263878 feeling lonely I ignore it I'm looking
43E5Bbxjwsk-00583-00263879-00264103 out and looking trying to find something
43E5Bbxjwsk-00584-00264104-00264676 try and distract myself so how many of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00585-00264677-00265006 you recognize you ignore it how many of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00586-00265007-00265218 you recognize you avoid it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00587-00265219-00265747 how many of you recognize that how many
43E5Bbxjwsk-00588-00265748-00265930 of you recognize how long you have been
43E5Bbxjwsk-00589-00265931-00266371 doing shockingly or frequently you do
43E5Bbxjwsk-00590-00266372-00266983 that surprisingly or how many of you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00591-00266984-00267271 actually recognize that you're trying to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00592-00267272-00267670 overcome that but not enough or not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00593-00267671-00267955 frequently enough you're not frequently
43E5Bbxjwsk-00594-00267956-00268085 aware enough
43E5Bbxjwsk-00595-00268086-00268327 well you're not frequently reflecting
43E5Bbxjwsk-00596-00268328-00269014 enough or how many of you enjoy the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00597-00269015-00269385 success of the practice the power of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00598-00269386-00269760 recognizing it when you do it and able
43E5Bbxjwsk-00599-00269761-00269932 to shift the attention and change
43E5Bbxjwsk-00600-00269933-00270216 instead of looking feeling homeless
43E5Bbxjwsk-00601-00270217-00271753 feeling we go home with it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00602-00271754-00272077 how many of you can't believe that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00603-00272078-00272350 really recognizing and through the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00604-00272351-00272608 meditation whereas I guided able to go
43E5Bbxjwsk-00605-00272609-00272866 inside and really find that sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00606-00272867-00273085 home and when you find that sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00607-00273086-00273463 home it will be a true sense of antidote
43E5Bbxjwsk-00608-00273464-00273709 to overcome the loneliness and maybe
43E5Bbxjwsk-00609-00273710-00274165 even even help the depression because
43E5Bbxjwsk-00610-00274166-00274306 sometimes I know like people feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00611-00274307-00274546 depression could be very much physical
43E5Bbxjwsk-00612-00274547-00274876 and very much chemical in the body and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00613-00274877-00275158 so on but of course even in the physical
43E5Bbxjwsk-00614-00275159-00275362 even in that day the chemicals in the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00615-00275363-00275659 body but still mind is creating a lot of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00616-00275660-00276337 these things and mind is create a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00617-00276338-00276603 solution for this also
43E5Bbxjwsk-00618-00276604-00276988 so basically disconnected versus
43E5Bbxjwsk-00619-00276989-00277471 connected we know very clearly today's
43E5Bbxjwsk-00620-00277472-00277693 modern world every time when we go
43E5Bbxjwsk-00621-00277694-00277909 somewhere in the cafe and some hotels
43E5Bbxjwsk-00622-00277910-00278323 and airports and anywhere we first thing
43E5Bbxjwsk-00623-00278324-00278736 we ask is the password for the wire fire
43E5Bbxjwsk-00624-00278737-00278962 we wanted to be connected to the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00625-00278963-00279087 Internet
43E5Bbxjwsk-00626-00279088-00279331 because not being connected to the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00627-00279332-00279637 Internet we feel disconnected we feel
43E5Bbxjwsk-00628-00279638-00280111 some sense of lost powerless a strange
43E5Bbxjwsk-00629-00280112-00280855 feeling strange feeling of disconnected
43E5Bbxjwsk-00630-00280856-00281074 not having been connected to the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00631-00281075-00281278 Internet but when you are connected to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00632-00281279-00281491 the Internet then you disconnect through
43E5Bbxjwsk-00633-00281492-00281812 the internet because you have
43E5Bbxjwsk-00634-00281813-00282616 opportunity to get totally lost so how
43E5Bbxjwsk-00635-00282617-00282820 many of you feel like this yeah this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00636-00282821-00283072 practice could really like affect you so
43E5Bbxjwsk-00637-00283073-00283480 I hope this I was clear enough to make
43E5Bbxjwsk-00638-00283481-00283834 you recognize something and and and and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00639-00283835-00284053 also understand there is kind of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00640-00284054-00284134 solutions
43E5Bbxjwsk-00641-00284135-00284383 it's really like a acknowledgement of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00642-00284384-00284797 the pain and the main key is go closer
43E5Bbxjwsk-00643-00284798-00285130 not far away accomodate
43E5Bbxjwsk-00644-00285131-00285592 not disconnect and not I say not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00645-00285593-00286018 manipulate leave it as it is let me just
43E5Bbxjwsk-00646-00286019-00286183 say a few words before I finished today
43E5Bbxjwsk-00647-00286184-00286408 is in the dogs in tradition there are
43E5Bbxjwsk-00648-00286409-00286651 many simple concepts I will just say few
43E5Bbxjwsk-00649-00286652-00287005 things there are concepts call like a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00650-00287006-00287374 rung shell rung draw selves arising and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00651-00287375-00287593 self liberating what does that mean that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00652-00287594-00287986 means if you are aware of these feelings
43E5Bbxjwsk-00653-00287987-00288391 such as loneliness you your by your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00654-00288392-00288733 awareness it can it will arise it will
43E5Bbxjwsk-00655-00288734-00288982 stay and it will not stay there
43E5Bbxjwsk-00656-00288983-00289231 it will liberate by himself or it will
43E5Bbxjwsk-00657-00289232-00289447 not stay too long it will liberate by
43E5Bbxjwsk-00658-00289448-00289792 himself because you are able to leave it
43E5Bbxjwsk-00659-00289793-00290343 as it is rather than your pain is as
43E5Bbxjwsk-00660-00290344-00290764 inviting it your pain is inviting the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00661-00290765-00290974 pain of loneliness your pain is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00662-00290975-00291190 supporting the pain of loneliness your
43E5Bbxjwsk-00663-00291191-00291412 pain is asking paint loneliness to stay
43E5Bbxjwsk-00664-00291413-00291693 longer and keep on staying there no
43E5Bbxjwsk-00665-00291694-00292123 there's no pain but your awareness of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00666-00292124-00292642 openness is accommodating it or there is
43E5Bbxjwsk-00667-00292643-00293028 as I said earlier there is no concept of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00668-00293029-00293341 seeing naked ly and liberate negligee
43E5Bbxjwsk-00669-00293342-00294270 pastured roll
43E5Bbxjwsk-00670-00294271-00294628 observing ik naked Lee liberating it not
43E5Bbxjwsk-00671-00294629-00295387 manipulating it and finally the sense of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00672-00295388-00295879 home is that when one overcomes this
43E5Bbxjwsk-00673-00295880-00296344 pain of homeless pain of loneliness able
43E5Bbxjwsk-00674-00296345-00296572 to go closer and acknowledge and clear
43E5Bbxjwsk-00675-00296573-00296833 it then you have much more greater
43E5Bbxjwsk-00676-00296834-00297051 chance to find a sense of home within
43E5Bbxjwsk-00677-00297052-00297376 once you find a sense of home within you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00678-00297377-00297631 wanted to exercise them and what I mean
43E5Bbxjwsk-00679-00297632-00298018 by exercise them is you know any feeling
43E5Bbxjwsk-00680-00298019-00298222 if you feel love for example you don't
43E5Bbxjwsk-00681-00298223-00298444 want to just feel why I do feel love you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00682-00298445-00298537 know it's not like that
43E5Bbxjwsk-00683-00298538-00298789 but I do feel love enough I feel the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00684-00298790-00299026 fire of love I feel the warmth of love I
43E5Bbxjwsk-00685-00299027-00299347 feel the creativity of love I feel the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00686-00299348-00299578 words of the love I have rich rich
43E5Bbxjwsk-00687-00299579-00299830 vocabulary of the lab I feel the points
43E5Bbxjwsk-00688-00299831-00300061 of the love I feel the music of the lab
43E5Bbxjwsk-00689-00300062-00300511 I feel the movement of the love I wanted
43E5Bbxjwsk-00690-00300512-00300742 to write I wanted to send text I wanted
43E5Bbxjwsk-00691-00300743-00301045 to talk I want the same I wanted to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00692-00301046-00301312 share I wanted to create I wanted to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00693-00301313-00301831 exchange so exercising this expressions
43E5Bbxjwsk-00694-00301832-00302128 of love exercising they express
43E5Bbxjwsk-00695-00302129-00302437 expressions of that sense of home home
43E5Bbxjwsk-00696-00302438-00302803 and the warmth of that home sharing able
43E5Bbxjwsk-00697-00302804-00303115 to share with others instead of instead
43E5Bbxjwsk-00698-00303116-00303331 of affecting each other from the pain of
43E5Bbxjwsk-00699-00303332-00303586 loneliness and homelessness always each
43E5Bbxjwsk-00700-00303587-00304279 other so so that's all I think I hope
43E5Bbxjwsk-00701-00304280-00304993 that was helpful and I hope that I think
43E5Bbxjwsk-00702-00304994-00305358 Mariela is seems like a hosting the
43E5Bbxjwsk-00703-00305359-00305716 today's Facebook life and so maybe
43E5Bbxjwsk-00704-00305717-00306099 Mariela well that send a link or
43E5Bbxjwsk-00705-00306100-00306769 information about next Facebook life and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00706-00306770-00307198 then I hope that all of I wanted to
43E5Bbxjwsk-00707-00307199-00307417 thank you so much that I know like many
43E5Bbxjwsk-00708-00307418-00307642 of you the sheer
43E5Bbxjwsk-00709-00307643-00307825 immediately when I post something cher
43E5Bbxjwsk-00710-00307826-00308050 immediately especially information about
43E5Bbxjwsk-00711-00308051-00308317 the Facebook life with others and I know
43E5Bbxjwsk-00712-00308318-00308587 when you share it that there is a sense
43E5Bbxjwsk-00713-00308588-00308911 of trust there there is a sense of a
43E5Bbxjwsk-00714-00308912-00309193 true sense of acknowledgement the value
43E5Bbxjwsk-00715-00309194-00309463 they use you put into what I'm doing and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00716-00309464-00309829 i truly appreciate that and and liking
43E5Bbxjwsk-00717-00309830-00310144 the page and commenting on it and
43E5Bbxjwsk-00718-00310145-00310312 inspiring each other supporting each
43E5Bbxjwsk-00719-00310313-00310600 other sharing with other people with
43E5Bbxjwsk-00720-00310601-00310822 your friends and families I truly truly
43E5Bbxjwsk-00721-00310823-00311146 appreciate that and so we'll see you
43E5Bbxjwsk-00722-00311147-00311530 next time thank you thank you thank you
45MJbr06yK0-00000-00000037-00001052 [Music]
45MJbr06yK0-00001-00001053-00001366 so we'll start here hello welcome to
45MJbr06yK0-00002-00001367-00001622 tonight's enemy webinar which features
45MJbr06yK0-00003-00001623-00001915 dr. Constantine as far Salinas before we
45MJbr06yK0-00004-00001916-00002105 start just for those unfamiliar with
45MJbr06yK0-00005-00002106-00002321 zoom we'll give you some housekeeping
45MJbr06yK0-00006-00002322-00002579 notes firstly you're all muted and your
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45MJbr06yK0-00008-00002850-00003008 won't be throwing up on the screen for
45MJbr06yK0-00009-00003009-00003344 everyone to see you could just enjoy the
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45MJbr06yK0-00011-00003546-00003797 I guess speak Konstantinos will speak
45MJbr06yK0-00012-00003797-00003988 for 10-15 minutes and then I'll ask a
45MJbr06yK0-00013-00003989-00004156 couple of questions and then we move
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45MJbr06yK0-00022-00006153-00006275 that's where you need to ask your
45MJbr06yK0-00023-00006276-00006578 questions when it comes to it we're
45MJbr06yK0-00024-00006579-00006719 going to keep the time but we're try and
45MJbr06yK0-00025-00006720-00006995 ask as many questions as we can the
45MJbr06yK0-00026-00006995-00007246 session is being recorded including the
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45MJbr06yK0-00028-00007559-00007723 please bear that in mind you can ask a
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45MJbr06yK0-00057-00014043-00014255 world you are so without further ado
45MJbr06yK0-00058-00014256-00014474 we're going to introduce our speed
45MJbr06yK0-00059-00014475-00014744 dr. consciously Konstantinos far Salinas
45MJbr06yK0-00060-00014744-00014990 MD his research fellow at the NASA's
45MJbr06yK0-00061-00014991-00015176 cardiac surgery center in Athens Greece
45MJbr06yK0-00062-00015177-00015488 at the Department of pharmacy University
45MJbr06yK0-00063-00015488-00015686 of Patras Greece and at the National
45MJbr06yK0-00064-00015687-00015899 School of Public Health in Greece he's
45MJbr06yK0-00065-00015900-00016069 been conducting laboratory and clinical
45MJbr06yK0-00066-00016071-00016205 research on e-cigarettes as the
45MJbr06yK0-00067-00016206-00016511 principal investigator since 2011 and a
45MJbr06yK0-00068-00016512-00016700 lot of late 2019 is published more than
45MJbr06yK0-00069-00016701-00016979 80 studies and articles in international
45MJbr06yK0-00070-00016980-00017159 peer-reviewed scientific journals about
45MJbr06yK0-00071-00017160-00017387 tobacco harm reduction so welcome
45MJbr06yK0-00072-00017388-00017705 Konstantinos thank you you seem to have
45MJbr06yK0-00073-00017706-00018170 a very old biome also 2020 we have more
45MJbr06yK0-00074-00018171-00018445 than 90 close to 95 publications
45MJbr06yK0-00075-00018446-00018827 including a lot of studies about Kobe 19
45MJbr06yK0-00076-00018828-00019315 within a very short period of time
45MJbr06yK0-00077-00019316-00019571 now affiliated with your NASA cardiac
45MJbr06yK0-00078-00019572-00019760 surgery center I'm affiliated with the
45MJbr06yK0-00079-00019761-00019970 University of Patras a senior researcher
45MJbr06yK0-00080-00019971-00020183 with a you with a School of Public
45MJbr06yK0-00081-00020184-00020498 Health which is now part of the
45MJbr06yK0-00082-00020499-00020729 University of West Attica and with the
45MJbr06yK0-00083-00020730-00021005 university of Peloponnese data and Media
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45MJbr06yK0-00085-00022038-00022283 would also welcome donations to anime
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45MJbr06yK0-00091-00023462-00023719 discussion so I want to have this
45MJbr06yK0-00092-00023720-00024053 absolutely clear and I don't want to say
45MJbr06yK0-00093-00024054-00024215 anything more I just want to hear
45MJbr06yK0-00094-00024216-00024386 questions whether it's from you or from
45MJbr06yK0-00095-00024387-00024697 the audience because you need to create
45MJbr06yK0-00096-00024698-00025010 a discussion a debate instead of having
45MJbr06yK0-00097-00025011-00025259 me say my own words which may not
45MJbr06yK0-00098-00025260-00025553 interest anyone basically so it's up to
45MJbr06yK0-00099-00025554-00025868 you and I would suggest to either you
45MJbr06yK0-00100-00025869-00026063 ask me anything you want
45MJbr06yK0-00101-00026064-00026642 or have the audience and the viewers ask
45MJbr06yK0-00102-00026643-00027005 whatever they feel they want was okay
45MJbr06yK0-00103-00027006-00027164 let's let's start uncovered on TV
45MJbr06yK0-00104-00027164-00027368 because because there's a lot of
45MJbr06yK0-00105-00027369-00027595 interest around this and as some public
45MJbr06yK0-00106-00027597-00027808 health people have said there's some
45MJbr06yK0-00107-00027810-00028045 strange going on but there have been a
45MJbr06yK0-00108-00028047-00028193 lot of study some there I think I
45MJbr06yK0-00109-00028194-00028499 counted about 280 so far but from what
45MJbr06yK0-00110-00028500-00028691 I've seen so what is the general message
45MJbr06yK0-00111-00028692-00028949 and and and what can we take from it and
45MJbr06yK0-00112-00028950-00029093 what have you found out in your studies
45MJbr06yK0-00113-00029094-00029441 as well you know 19 is a respiratory
45MJbr06yK0-00114-00029442-00029714 infection being a respiratory infection
45MJbr06yK0-00115-00029714-00030026 the first thing that we were looking at
45MJbr06yK0-00116-00030027-00030368 was how bad it is for smokers because we
45MJbr06yK0-00117-00030369-00030557 know that smokers have increased
45MJbr06yK0-00118-00030558-00030848 susceptibility and foreign for
45MJbr06yK0-00119-00030849-00031061 respiratory infections and the
45MJbr06yK0-00120-00031062-00031264 infections are also more severe in
45MJbr06yK0-00121-00031266-00031502 smokers compared to non-smokers so when
45MJbr06yK0-00122-00031502-00031714 I started looking at the first case
45MJbr06yK0-00123-00031716-00031922 series that were released of patients
45MJbr06yK0-00124-00031923-00032008 with co19
45MJbr06yK0-00125-00032010-00032414 from China and it's vital to talk about
45MJbr06yK0-00126-00032414-00032477 China
45MJbr06yK0-00127-00032477-00032669 why China is one of the countries with
45MJbr06yK0-00128-00032670-00032873 the highest margin rate in the world for
45MJbr06yK0-00129-00032874-00033344 men 50% of men smoke and we know also
45MJbr06yK0-00130-00033345-00033521 what common 19 is a disease
45MJbr06yK0-00131-00033522-00033761 predominantly of men I'm talking about
45MJbr06yK0-00132-00033762-00033980 the severity of the disease being
45MJbr06yK0-00133-00033981-00034448 predominantly of men most of
45MJbr06yK0-00134-00034449-00034670 hospitalized patients with coffee 19 are
45MJbr06yK0-00135-00034671-00035084 men but when the first case series were
45MJbr06yK0-00136-00035085-00035576 being published we found and unusual in
45MJbr06yK0-00137-00035577-00035924 my first remarks and observations were
45MJbr06yK0-00138-00035925-00036409 in early March the proportion of
45MJbr06yK0-00139-00036410-00036650 hospitalized patients who reported being
45MJbr06yK0-00140-00036651-00037004 smokers was pretty low the first case
45MJbr06yK0-00141-00037005-00037196 here is a big one with more than a
45MJbr06yK0-00142-00037197-00037592 thousand hospitalized cases it was only
45MJbr06yK0-00143-00037593-00037913 twelve point six percent the smoking
45MJbr06yK0-00144-00037914-00038231 prevalence in China is 27 percent in the
45MJbr06yK0-00145-00038232-00038486 whole population and it's 50 percent in
45MJbr06yK0-00146-00038487-00038771 males so it should have been more than
45MJbr06yK0-00147-00038772-00039194 twice that so but you know then I went
45MJbr06yK0-00148-00039195-00039518 to up to five studies which I analyzed
45MJbr06yK0-00149-00039519-00039956 in late March I think it was March 23rd
45MJbr06yK0-00150-00039957-00040487 and on April 3rd I managed to get to
45MJbr06yK0-00151-00040488-00040979 thirteen k-series where the prevalence
45MJbr06yK0-00152-00040980-00041144 of smoking among
45MJbr06yK0-00153-00041145-00041360 the life covered 19 patients all these
45MJbr06yK0-00154-00041361-00041759 studies were from China was 1/4
45MJbr06yK0-00155-00041760-00042164 it was 1/4 they expected prevalence
45MJbr06yK0-00156-00042165-00042614 based on population smoking rates so 3/4
45MJbr06yK0-00157-00042615-00043096 lower 75% lower than what we expected
45MJbr06yK0-00158-00043097-00043475 this is huge and of course we know that
45MJbr06yK0-00159-00043476-00043799 there are limitations and problems in
45MJbr06yK0-00160-00043800-00043961 this analysis because we didn't have the
45MJbr06yK0-00161-00043962-00044189 data sets we didn't have all the data
45MJbr06yK0-00162-00044190-00044468 that we wanted we mentioned all these
45MJbr06yK0-00163-00044469-00044822 limitations but still it's four times
45MJbr06yK0-00164-00044823-00045074 lower you know something very very bad
45MJbr06yK0-00165-00045075-00045350 with a recording of smoking must happen
45MJbr06yK0-00166-00045351-00045998 to justify 1/4 the expected prevalence
45MJbr06yK0-00167-00045999-00046367 and as this grew up more and more
45MJbr06yK0-00168-00046368-00046589 researchers from different countries
45MJbr06yK0-00169-00046590-00046814 we're coming out with studies and when
45MJbr06yK0-00170-00046815-00047003 putting about different research groups
45MJbr06yK0-00171-00047004-00047417 yeah not our research group finding that
45MJbr06yK0-00172-00047418-00047657 you know something weird is happening
45MJbr06yK0-00173-00047658-00047951 with smokers they either have no
45MJbr06yK0-00174-00047952-00048287 elevated risk to be hospitalized or in
45MJbr06yK0-00175-00048288-00048485 some cases they have a lower risk of
45MJbr06yK0-00176-00048486-00048749 being diagnosed with copa90 you know
45MJbr06yK0-00177-00048750-00049055 something weird is happening and this
45MJbr06yK0-00178-00049056-00049361 needs to be examined and of course I
45MJbr06yK0-00179-00049362-00049696 want to clarify the since the first
45MJbr06yK0-00180-00049697-00050075 observations we never said that people
45MJbr06yK0-00181-00050076-00050369 should start smoking and we never said
45MJbr06yK0-00182-00050370-00050693 that smoking should continue to smoke in
45MJbr06yK0-00183-00050694-00050909 order to be protected from commit 19
45MJbr06yK0-00184-00050910-00051163 we've said from the beginning that
45MJbr06yK0-00185-00051164-00051479 smoking cannot be protective for
45MJbr06yK0-00186-00051479-00051752 anything it's completely impractical and
45MJbr06yK0-00187-00051753-00051959 impossible to be suggested as a
45MJbr06yK0-00188-00051960-00052202 protective measure because of the harms
45MJbr06yK0-00189-00052203-00052508 associated with smoking but what we
45MJbr06yK0-00190-00052509-00052910 hypothesized is that what what is in
45MJbr06yK0-00191-00052911-00053183 smoking that causes this we thought the
45MJbr06yK0-00192-00053184-00053389 first thing that came to our mind is
45MJbr06yK0-00193-00053390-00053882 nicotine nicotine we know what it acts
45MJbr06yK0-00194-00053883-00054226 on the nicotinic cholinergic system a
45MJbr06yK0-00195-00054227-00054483 group of research of
45MJbr06yK0-00196-00054484-00054684 chapters that are available everywhere
45MJbr06yK0-00197-00054685-00054945 in the body both in the central nervous
45MJbr06yK0-00198-00054946-00055200 system but also outside the nervous
45MJbr06yK0-00199-00055201-00055449 system in all parts of our body
45MJbr06yK0-00200-00055450-00055766 including in immune cells and we know
45MJbr06yK0-00201-00055767-00056166 since the early 2000s that the nicotinic
45MJbr06yK0-00202-00056166-00056421 cholinergic system is a system that
45MJbr06yK0-00203-00056422-00056820 controls and regulates the inflammatory
45MJbr06yK0-00204-00056821-00057216 response to any type of foreign invasion
45MJbr06yK0-00205-00057216-00057467 whether it's virus a bacterium or
45MJbr06yK0-00206-00057469-00057846 whatever and it modulates the immune
45MJbr06yK0-00207-00057847-00058157 response and we know very well that
45MJbr06yK0-00208-00058158-00058647 severe common 19 is not is not damage
45MJbr06yK0-00209-00058648-00058941 caused by the virus itself it's damage
45MJbr06yK0-00210-00058941-00059421 caused by a hyper immune response of the
45MJbr06yK0-00211-00059422-00059694 human body which means that when the
45MJbr06yK0-00212-00059695-00060027 virus enters the body the immune system
45MJbr06yK0-00213-00060028-00060719 reacts fighting the virus but it reacts
45MJbr06yK0-00214-00060720-00061130 uncontrollably and at the end instead of
45MJbr06yK0-00215-00061132-00061419 suppressing this immune reaction the
45MJbr06yK0-00216-00061420-00061716 immune reaction is growing bigger and
45MJbr06yK0-00217-00061716-00062058 bigger over time and at the end it is
45MJbr06yK0-00218-00062059-00062328 this immune reaction that causes the
45MJbr06yK0-00219-00062329-00062642 damage in the lungs in the blood vessel
45MJbr06yK0-00220-00062644-00062961 walls in the alveoli and in all other
45MJbr06yK0-00221-00062962-00063261 organ systems so it's what we called and
45MJbr06yK0-00222-00063262-00063578 probably you've seen that cytokine storm
45MJbr06yK0-00223-00063579-00063950 it's this cytokine storm which is not
45MJbr06yK0-00224-00063951-00064248 caused by the virus itself it's the
45MJbr06yK0-00225-00064249-00064446 immune response that is left
45MJbr06yK0-00226-00064447-00064760 uncontrolled and one of the main
45MJbr06yK0-00227-00064761-00065025 properties of that what we call the
45MJbr06yK0-00228-00065026-00065409 whole energy anti-flammable system is a
45MJbr06yK0-00229-00065410-00065925 pathway is to control and modulate the
45MJbr06yK0-00230-00065926-00066252 inflammatory and immune response so this
45MJbr06yK0-00231-00066253-00066660 is mediated by nicotinic receptors and
45MJbr06yK0-00232-00066661-00066840 these are called nicotinic receptors
45MJbr06yK0-00233-00066841-00067059 because nicotine is an agonist for them
45MJbr06yK0-00234-00067060-00067410 so it protects them and it promotes
45MJbr06yK0-00235-00067411-00067592 their activity
45MJbr06yK0-00236-00067593-00067820 and that's why they are also called
45MJbr06yK0-00237-00067821-00068221 nicotinic receptors so we think and our
45MJbr06yK0-00238-00068222-00068429 hypothesis the hypothesis of our own
45MJbr06yK0-00239-00068430-00068767 group now it's our hypothesis is that
45MJbr06yK0-00240-00068768-00069143 the virus may probably attack these
45MJbr06yK0-00241-00069144-00069488 receptors besides what we know about the
45MJbr06yK0-00242-00069489-00069785 AC to the enzyme which acts as a
45MJbr06yK0-00243-00069786-00070028 receptor for silently we think that the
45MJbr06yK0-00244-00070029-00070273 virus may also attack these receptors
45MJbr06yK0-00245-00070274-00070493 this regulate them
45MJbr06yK0-00246-00070494-00070844 I mean prevent the normal activity and
45MJbr06yK0-00247-00070845-00071261 in if this is happening then nicotine is
45MJbr06yK0-00248-00071262-00071680 going to compete with the virus for
45MJbr06yK0-00249-00071681-00071927 attachment to these receptors but
45MJbr06yK0-00250-00071928-00072143 nicotine is going to protect and promote
45MJbr06yK0-00251-00072144-00072383 their activity instead of inhibiting
45MJbr06yK0-00252-00072384-00072817 their activity so it will restore the
45MJbr06yK0-00253-00072818-00073063 control of the inflammatory response
45MJbr06yK0-00254-00073064-00073394 this is our hypothesis this is what we
45MJbr06yK0-00255-00073395-00073625 are working at this is what we are doing
45MJbr06yK0-00256-00073626-00074051 with our experiments and that's why we
45MJbr06yK0-00257-00074052-00074288 suggest that a clinical trial or
45MJbr06yK0-00258-00074289-00074576 nicotine should be done not only in
45MJbr06yK0-00259-00074577-00075071 smokers but also in non-smokers now give
45MJbr06yK0-00260-00075072-00075281 me one more minute to expand on that
45MJbr06yK0-00261-00075282-00075641 because someone may say that there are
45MJbr06yK0-00262-00075642-00075923 studies showing that hospitalized
45MJbr06yK0-00263-00075924-00076265 smokers have more severe disease and are
45MJbr06yK0-00264-00076266-00076498 more likely to have an adverse outcome
45MJbr06yK0-00265-00076499-00076811 compared to non-smokers and this is true
45MJbr06yK0-00266-00076812-00077048 I will tell you that in a few days a
45MJbr06yK0-00267-00077049-00077357 study of ours which is already accepted
45MJbr06yK0-00268-00077358-00077648 is going to be published an analysis of
45MJbr06yK0-00269-00077649-00077915 30 studies of course penalized co19
45MJbr06yK0-00270-00077916-00078365 patients we evaluated the adverse
45MJbr06yK0-00271-00078366-00078527 outcome and the association between
45MJbr06yK0-00272-00078528-00078817 smoking and advanced cow outcome among
45MJbr06yK0-00273-00078818-00079100 hospitalized patients we found that
45MJbr06yK0-00274-00079101-00079637 smokers are 55 to 60% more likely to
45MJbr06yK0-00275-00079638-00079952 have an adverse outcome but and this is
45MJbr06yK0-00276-00079953-00080189 a very important clarification but no
45MJbr06yK0-00277-00080190-00080597 one else is making the true conclusion
45MJbr06yK0-00278-00080598-00080968 is that they're very
45MJbr06yK0-00279-00080969-00081376 you smokers who get hospitalized that's
45MJbr06yK0-00280-00081377-00081790 a key that know what makes the very few
45MJbr06yK0-00281-00081791-00082105 smokers who get hospitalized are more
45MJbr06yK0-00282-00082106-00082360 likely to suffer adverse outcome
45MJbr06yK0-00283-00082361-00082675 compared to non-smokers and why do I say
45MJbr06yK0-00284-00082676-00082999 that because we didn't examine only the
45MJbr06yK0-00285-00083000-00083353 outcome we also examine how many smokers
45MJbr06yK0-00286-00083354-00083662 get hospitalized compared again to the
45MJbr06yK0-00287-00083663-00083899 population smoking rate and we found
45MJbr06yK0-00288-00083900-00084328 even when using the worst case scenario
45MJbr06yK0-00289-00084329-00084655 which underestimates population smoking
45MJbr06yK0-00290-00084656-00085051 rates we found that the proportion of
45MJbr06yK0-00291-00085052-00085334 patients with common 18 who get
45MJbr06yK0-00292-00085335-00085611 hospitalized and are smokers is
45MJbr06yK0-00293-00085612-00086104 one-third the expected number one-third
45MJbr06yK0-00294-00086105-00086434 again so I will repeat the conclusion
45MJbr06yK0-00295-00086435-00086638 and I will emphasize the first part
45MJbr06yK0-00296-00086639-00086893 because you will rarely hear the first
45MJbr06yK0-00297-00086894-00087349 part and this is a key issue of the very
45MJbr06yK0-00298-00087350-00087703 few smokers who get hospitalized for
45MJbr06yK0-00299-00087704-00088111 Kobe 19 these people there very few
45MJbr06yK0-00300-00088112-00088594 smokers have a higher odds have higher
45MJbr06yK0-00301-00088595-00089047 odds of having an adverse outcome by
45MJbr06yK0-00302-00089048-00089440 about 55 to 60% more likely to have an
45MJbr06yK0-00303-00089441-00089743 adverse outcome so the studies like
45MJbr06yK0-00304-00089744-00090031 study published by glance they are right
45MJbr06yK0-00305-00090032-00090334 although the glance assessment was a bit
45MJbr06yK0-00306-00090335-00090553 of an overestimation probably because
45MJbr06yK0-00307-00090554-00090884 they examined fewer studies we examined
45MJbr06yK0-00308-00090885-00091334 more but again we are talking about the
45MJbr06yK0-00309-00091335-00091579 very few patients - who get to the
45MJbr06yK0-00310-00091580-00091873 hospital and remarked number two and
45MJbr06yK0-00311-00091874-00092090 that's also something that we will
45MJbr06yK0-00312-00092091-00092410 rarely hear it's only our group that is
45MJbr06yK0-00313-00092411-00092696 saying that what is the difference
45MJbr06yK0-00314-00092697-00093013 between a smoker who is not hospitalized
45MJbr06yK0-00315-00093014-00093277 and the smoker crystallized the
45MJbr06yK0-00316-00093278-00093637 difference is that smoke once
45MJbr06yK0-00317-00093638-00093961 hospitalized they will immediately and
45MJbr06yK0-00318-00093962-00094284 rightfully so stop smoking
45MJbr06yK0-00319-00094285-00094716 which means that they will experience an
45MJbr06yK0-00320-00094717-00095147 abrupt cessation of nicotine intake
45MJbr06yK0-00321-00095148-00095463 immediately once they are admitted to
45MJbr06yK0-00322-00095464-00095703 the hospital what does this mean it
45MJbr06yK0-00323-00095704-00096087 means that their nicotine levels will
45MJbr06yK0-00324-00096088-00096600 drop to zero within eight to ten hours
45MJbr06yK0-00325-00096601-00096999 from being hospitalized so if our
45MJbr06yK0-00326-00097000-00097320 hypothesis is right and nicotine has
45MJbr06yK0-00327-00097321-00097715 some benefits then the smoker who gets
45MJbr06yK0-00328-00097716-00098085 hospitalized will immediately within
45MJbr06yK0-00329-00098086-00098543 hours be deprived of this benefit
45MJbr06yK0-00330-00098544-00098826 because unfortunately and I'm not
45MJbr06yK0-00331-00098827-00098979 suggesting of course that people should
45MJbr06yK0-00332-00098980-00099278 smoke in the hospital but unfortunately
45MJbr06yK0-00333-00099279-00099576 no one is going to administer to these
45MJbr06yK0-00334-00099577-00099828 people nicotine replacement therapies
45MJbr06yK0-00335-00099829-00100196 and that very very unfortunate because
45MJbr06yK0-00336-00100197-00100419 administering to a smoker who gets
45MJbr06yK0-00337-00100420-00100620 hospitalized for anything it doesn't
45MJbr06yK0-00338-00100621-00100973 have to be covenant in energies is a
45MJbr06yK0-00339-00100974-00101292 perfect indication it's an already
45MJbr06yK0-00340-00101293-00101627 approved indication for energies and
45MJbr06yK0-00341-00101628-00101892 there is a scientific association in
45MJbr06yK0-00342-00101893-00102315 France which has a booklet of guidance
45MJbr06yK0-00343-00102316-00102753 for smokers for clinical guidance for of
45MJbr06yK0-00344-00102754-00103023 how to treat smokers who get
45MJbr06yK0-00345-00103024-00103221 hospitalized for any disease the
45MJbr06yK0-00346-00103222-00103404 guidance was released last year before
45MJbr06yK0-00347-00103405-00103629 the pandemic and they were giving
45MJbr06yK0-00348-00103630-00103893 guidance to clinicians that for whatever
45MJbr06yK0-00349-00103894-00104108 reason you have smoked is hospitalized
45MJbr06yK0-00350-00104109-00104568 you need to give them energies in order
45MJbr06yK0-00351-00104569-00105030 to relieve their cravings for me so it
45MJbr06yK0-00352-00105031-00105548 is an administration of nicotine for the
45MJbr06yK0-00353-00105549-00105879 official approval of this product which
45MJbr06yK0-00354-00105880-00106389 is smoking substitution yeah yeah yeah
45MJbr06yK0-00355-00106390-00106665 it's interesting you say and that is it
45MJbr06yK0-00356-00106666-00106875 wondering if some of it might be because
45MJbr06yK0-00357-00106876-00107241 of the stigma about nicotine in general
45MJbr06yK0-00358-00107242-00107622 from from health bodies what does it
45MJbr06yK0-00359-00107623-00107898 stigma we are talking since the
45MJbr06yK0-00360-00107899-00108228 beginning I will ask you if you want to
45MJbr06yK0-00361-00108229-00108503 check my first prep application which is
45MJbr06yK0-00362-00108504-00108911 I think March 22nd or 23rd since the
45MJbr06yK0-00363-00108913-00109259 beginning we have been saying smoking is
45MJbr06yK0-00364-00109260-00109563 not a protective factor it cannot be
45MJbr06yK0-00365-00109564-00109773 used as a protective factor against
45MJbr06yK0-00366-00109774-00110043 anything nicotine is an approved
45MJbr06yK0-00367-00110044-00110291 medication nicotine has been
45MJbr06yK0-00368-00110292-00110831 administered 12 years ago to 70 year old
45MJbr06yK0-00369-00110832-00111110 patients with Parkinson who had not
45MJbr06yK0-00370-00111111-00111383 smoked ever in their life and the
45MJbr06yK0-00371-00111384-00111669 nicotine in the form of a part was
45MJbr06yK0-00372-00111670-00112124 administered up to a dose of 100
45MJbr06yK0-00373-00112125-00112557 milligrams per day of course gradual up
45MJbr06yK0-00374-00112558-00112848 titration not from day one but they
45MJbr06yK0-00375-00112849-00113336 reach to 100 milligrams per day nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00376-00113338-00113571 coolant was administered administered
45MJbr06yK0-00377-00113572-00113964 for several weeks and at the end of the
45MJbr06yK0-00378-00113965-00114219 trial that they gradually removed
45MJbr06yK0-00379-00114220-00114557 nicotine from their treatment protocol
45MJbr06yK0-00380-00114558-00114983 none of the participants were
45MJbr06yK0-00381-00114984-00115308 experienced withdrawal symptoms none of
45MJbr06yK0-00382-00115308-00115691 them none of them became dependent on
45MJbr06yK0-00383-00115692-00115878 nicotine the same thing has happened
45MJbr06yK0-00384-00115879-00116097 with nicotine administered to
45MJbr06yK0-00385-00116098-00116346 non-smokers for Alzheimer's disease the
45MJbr06yK0-00386-00116347-00116508 same has happened with nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00387-00116508-00116690 administered to non-smokers with
45MJbr06yK0-00388-00116691-00116903 ulcerative colitis and inflammatory
45MJbr06yK0-00389-00116904-00117286 bowel disease so there should be no
45MJbr06yK0-00390-00117288-00117525 predisposition but there is I fully
45MJbr06yK0-00391-00117526-00117773 agree with you but there should be no
45MJbr06yK0-00392-00117774-00118016 predisposition for nicotine let me tell
45MJbr06yK0-00393-00118017-00118314 you my personal experience I have been
45MJbr06yK0-00394-00118315-00118740 struggling even to suggest in my medical
45MJbr06yK0-00395-00118741-00119127 in my publications even to suggest a
45MJbr06yK0-00396-00119128-00119366 clinical trial of nicotine let me tell
45MJbr06yK0-00397-00119367-00119450 you something
45MJbr06yK0-00398-00119451-00119802 nicotine in the form of medication is
45MJbr06yK0-00399-00119803-00120072 going to be much safer in a clinical
45MJbr06yK0-00400-00120073-00120539 trial than many of the medications that
45MJbr06yK0-00401-00120540-00120771 are currently being tested for covered
45MJbr06yK0-00402-00120772-00120925 19
45MJbr06yK0-00403-00120926-00121267 and it's going to be cheaper it's going
45MJbr06yK0-00404-00121268-00121564 to be safer because the worst that can
45MJbr06yK0-00405-00121565-00121789 happen is that there is no benefit
45MJbr06yK0-00406-00121790-00122071 that's it we don't expect any harm at
45MJbr06yK0-00407-00122072-00122377 all so the worst case scenario is it's
45MJbr06yK0-00408-00122378-00122674 not going to help people there are
45MJbr06yK0-00409-00122675-00122973 medications right now that are
45MJbr06yK0-00410-00122974-00123378 contraindicated for active infections
45MJbr06yK0-00411-00123379-00123761 contraindicated like the
45MJbr06yK0-00412-00123763-00123877 anti-inflammatories and
45MJbr06yK0-00413-00123878-00124053 immunosuppressants they are
45MJbr06yK0-00414-00124054-00124291 contraindicated in active infection and
45MJbr06yK0-00415-00124292-00124695 they are now being tested for Corbett 19
45MJbr06yK0-00416-00124696-00125008 clinical and nicotine which is not
45MJbr06yK0-00417-00125008-00125242 contraindicated for an infection which
45MJbr06yK0-00418-00125243-00125644 is not even expected to have any serious
45MJbr06yK0-00419-00125645-00125791 side effects the worst that can happen
45MJbr06yK0-00420-00125792-00126115 is some nausea some dizziness some maybe
45MJbr06yK0-00421-00126116-00126313 vomiting and gastrointestinal effects
45MJbr06yK0-00422-00126314-00126534 nothing serious is going to happen quite
45MJbr06yK0-00423-00126535-00126691 touchy about an artist we're not talking
45MJbr06yK0-00424-00126692-00127075 about smoking and even the reviewers who
45MJbr06yK0-00425-00127076-00127458 are scientists have this predisposition
45MJbr06yK0-00426-00127459-00127723 that you mentioned against you know
45MJbr06yK0-00427-00127724-00128023 proposing anything like that and I have
45MJbr06yK0-00428-00128024-00128578 to be very tough and very persistent I'm
45MJbr06yK0-00429-00128579-00128752 not saying that I'm aggressive or
45MJbr06yK0-00430-00128753-00128973 impolite but I need to be very
45MJbr06yK0-00431-00128974-00129498 persistent in trying to overcome this
45MJbr06yK0-00432-00129499-00129761 unbelievable in my opinion
45MJbr06yK0-00433-00129763-00129984 predisposition and totally
45MJbr06yK0-00434-00129985-00130252 unsubstantiated because you know we were
45MJbr06yK0-00435-00130253-00130426 not suggesting smoking we made that
45MJbr06yK0-00436-00130427-00130714 absolutely clear from the first sentence
45MJbr06yK0-00437-00130715-00130911 in the abstract in the full text
45MJbr06yK0-00438-00130913-00131238 everywhere we didn't even suggest
45MJbr06yK0-00439-00131239-00131473 alternative nicotine products non
45MJbr06yK0-00440-00131474-00131662 pharmaceutical products never
45MJbr06yK0-00441-00131663-00132241 we don't even mention the name of any
45MJbr06yK0-00442-00132242-00132574 product or product category nothing
45MJbr06yK0-00443-00132575-00132886 besides pharmaceutical nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00444-00132887-00133246 replacement therapies and still we were
45MJbr06yK0-00445-00133247-00133608 facing a lot of opposition in my opinion
45MJbr06yK0-00446-00133609-00133924 completely unjustified but at the end I
45MJbr06yK0-00447-00133925-00134365 must say that most of them understand
45MJbr06yK0-00448-00134366-00134827 the concept they understand that it's
45MJbr06yK0-00449-00134828-00135097 perfectly appropriate to suggest
45MJbr06yK0-00450-00135098-00135342 something like that they understand that
45MJbr06yK0-00451-00135343-00135637 we have a clinical observation with
45MJbr06yK0-00452-00135638-00135955 limitations we have a hypothesis
45MJbr06yK0-00453-00135956-00136293 which started from an observation that's
45MJbr06yK0-00454-00136294-00136591 important and we are building this high
45MJbr06yK0-00455-00136592-00136861 position proposing difficult right there
45MJbr06yK0-00456-00136862-00137104 are many medications that are being
45MJbr06yK0-00457-00137105-00137551 tested right now based on biological
45MJbr06yK0-00458-00137552-00137974 plausibility of course but no clinical
45MJbr06yK0-00459-00137975-00138463 observation so far lower level of
45MJbr06yK0-00460-00138464-00138643 evidence than what we have for nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00461-00138644-00138886 I think that for nicotine we have a much
45MJbr06yK0-00462-00138887-00139311 higher level of evidence to justify
45MJbr06yK0-00463-00139312-00139789 doing clinical trials with nicotine yeah
45MJbr06yK0-00464-00139790-00140041 I was going to mention about the
45MJbr06yK0-00465-00140042-00140245 clinical trials because I've seen seen
45MJbr06yK0-00466-00140246-00140440 the ones that study smoking I've seen
45MJbr06yK0-00467-00140441-00140650 the ones that are talking about studying
45MJbr06yK0-00468-00140651-00140878 nicotine replacement therapy and the
45MJbr06yK0-00469-00140879-00141076 effects on that but I haven't seen any
45MJbr06yK0-00470-00141077-00141220 because I know we'd have a lot of vapors
45MJbr06yK0-00471-00141221-00141328 in here tonight
45MJbr06yK0-00472-00141329-00141562 studying specifically vaping and I
45MJbr06yK0-00473-00141563-00141724 wouldn't add to that a question we've
45MJbr06yK0-00474-00141725-00141877 got from Charles Hampshire or Thomas he
45MJbr06yK0-00475-00141878-00142099 says propylene glycol is common to both
45MJbr06yK0-00476-00142100-00142321 cigarettes and vaping previous research
45MJbr06yK0-00477-00142322-00142627 in the 1940s is showing potential virus
45MJbr06yK0-00478-00142628-00142927 seidel properties of P G is P G being
45MJbr06yK0-00479-00142928-00143167 explored in the current CV 19 related
45MJbr06yK0-00480-00143168-00143392 research on smokers so is there anything
45MJbr06yK0-00481-00143393-00143530 looking at vaping as there anything
45MJbr06yK0-00482-00143531-00143818 looking at P G as well as Nick no there
45MJbr06yK0-00483-00143819-00144022 is nothing I don't know if any study
45MJbr06yK0-00484-00144023-00144178 which is of any studies which have
45MJbr06yK0-00485-00144179-00144397 recorded vaping so they can give us
45MJbr06yK0-00486-00144398-00144837 numbers for vaping there is one I mean
45MJbr06yK0-00487-00144838-00145117 survey of vapors which is a convenient
45MJbr06yK0-00488-00145118-00145461 sample you can't generate any important
45MJbr06yK0-00489-00145462-00145708 information from that that's very
45MJbr06yK0-00490-00145709-00146005 unfortunate there is not even any study
45MJbr06yK0-00491-00146006-00146355 on snooze you know which is another
45MJbr06yK0-00492-00146356-00146895 possibility snooze is also a very
45MJbr06yK0-00493-00146896-00147214 important candidate because it's a much
45MJbr06yK0-00494-00147215-00147540 cleaner form of nicotine compared
45MJbr06yK0-00495-00147541-00147780 to tobacco cigarettes you know in many
45MJbr06yK0-00496-00147781-00148035 of my publications and then the one that
45MJbr06yK0-00497-00148036-00148293 is going to come out very soon I'm
45MJbr06yK0-00498-00148294-00148899 saying that we think that the potential
45MJbr06yK0-00499-00148900-00149178 and hypothetical benefits of nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00500-00149179-00149823 are partially but largely masked by the
45MJbr06yK0-00501-00149824-00150006 adverse effects of nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00502-00150007-00150327 so if near by that vast factory of
45MJbr06yK0-00503-00150328-00150855 smoking so what we see with smokers if
45MJbr06yK0-00504-00150856-00151182 the reason for what we see with in
45MJbr06yK0-00505-00151183-00151686 smokers is negative then the effect of a
45MJbr06yK0-00506-00151687-00151967 clean nicotine product like
45MJbr06yK0-00507-00151968-00152211 pharmaceutical nicotine products it's
45MJbr06yK0-00508-00152212-00152616 going to be much stronger than what we
45MJbr06yK0-00509-00152617-00152913 observe with Smokey's that's why the
45MJbr06yK0-00510-00152914-00153156 answer is not going to come from looking
45MJbr06yK0-00511-00153157-00153351 at what's happening with smokers or
45MJbr06yK0-00512-00153352-00153651 vapors or losers the answer is going to
45MJbr06yK0-00513-00153652-00153999 come as with any other intervention from
45MJbr06yK0-00514-00154000-00154323 a clinical trial where we will
45MJbr06yK0-00515-00154324-00154614 administer nicotine in a cleaner form
45MJbr06yK0-00516-00154615-00154953 now someone may say yes but we will
45MJbr06yK0-00517-00154954-00155136 administer probably we continue in the
45MJbr06yK0-00518-00155137-00155235 form of a putz
45MJbr06yK0-00519-00155236-00155580 but what about inhalation I will
45MJbr06yK0-00520-00155581-00155919 perfectly agree that ideally we should
45MJbr06yK0-00521-00155920-00156267 have used or we should use inhalation
45MJbr06yK0-00522-00156268-00156582 because the local effects are going to
45MJbr06yK0-00523-00156583-00156915 be much more important we know that the
45MJbr06yK0-00524-00156916-00157188 hyper inflammatory response that is
45MJbr06yK0-00525-00157189-00157515 happening locally is much more important
45MJbr06yK0-00526-00157516-00157902 than what we see from measuring blood
45MJbr06yK0-00527-00157903-00158280 levels of inflammatory cytokines because
45MJbr06yK0-00528-00158281-00158532 you know with blood levels you'll you
45MJbr06yK0-00529-00158533-00158912 just have spillover from the specific
45MJbr06yK0-00530-00158913-00159222 organ or compartment where we have the
45MJbr06yK0-00531-00159223-00159456 inflammation it means that what's
45MJbr06yK0-00532-00159457-00159711 happening locally in the low organ is
45MJbr06yK0-00533-00159712-00160044 much more severe than what you see from
45MJbr06yK0-00534-00160045-00160362 measuring peripheral inflammatory
45MJbr06yK0-00535-00160363-00160716 markers so local administration would
45MJbr06yK0-00536-00160717-00160893 have been ideal it
45MJbr06yK0-00537-00160894-00161034 let me tell you something someone may
45MJbr06yK0-00538-00161035-00161298 talk about e-cigarettes and so on it's
45MJbr06yK0-00539-00161299-00161490 going to be virtually impossible for
45MJbr06yK0-00540-00161491-00161721 anyone to administer in a hospital
45MJbr06yK0-00541-00161722-00161889 setting in a clinical trial a mystical
45MJbr06yK0-00542-00161890-00162314 but nicotine can be obtained as a
45MJbr06yK0-00543-00162315-00162759 pharmaceutical grade solution 100%
45MJbr06yK0-00544-00162760-00162975 ninety-nine point seven percent you can
45MJbr06yK0-00545-00162976-00163418 very easily add that to a nebulizer and
45MJbr06yK0-00546-00163419-00163647 evaporate that create an error so that
45MJbr06yK0-00547-00163648-00163911 can be inhaled in the same way that we
45MJbr06yK0-00548-00163912-00164256 give some broth dilators another problem
45MJbr06yK0-00549-00164257-00164559 with that is that in the hospitals they
45MJbr06yK0-00550-00164560-00164850 avoid delivering aerosols to the
45MJbr06yK0-00551-00164851-00165180 patients because you know you inhale but
45MJbr06yK0-00552-00165181-00165446 you will also exhale Samara zone and
45MJbr06yK0-00553-00165447-00165675 healthcare professionals are afraid that
45MJbr06yK0-00554-00165676-00166073 the exhalation is going to transmit
45MJbr06yK0-00555-00166074-00166197 virus
45MJbr06yK0-00556-00166198-00166533 viral particles to the environment and
45MJbr06yK0-00557-00166534-00166815 may increase the risk of infection by
45MJbr06yK0-00558-00166816-00167199 the healthcare personnel but I would if
45MJbr06yK0-00559-00167200-00167585 we would have a bed I would bet that
45MJbr06yK0-00560-00167586-00167982 inhale nicotine would have been much
45MJbr06yK0-00561-00167983-00168375 more effective than nicotine delivered
45MJbr06yK0-00562-00168376-00168654 systematically through a patch or a gum
45MJbr06yK0-00563-00168655-00168918 or anything else well that touches on
45MJbr06yK0-00564-00168919-00169158 question she lives in Los Angeles the
45MJbr06yK0-00565-00169159-00169263 keychain
45MJbr06yK0-00566-00169264-00169518 of Asus oval inhalation as a similar
45MJbr06yK0-00567-00169519-00169658 effects on outcome so you're saying that
45MJbr06yK0-00568-00169659-00169943 inhaling it would be more effective than
45MJbr06yK0-00569-00169944-00170318 if she's talking about the oral inhale
45MJbr06yK0-00570-00170319-00170619 Nicorette I don't know what's the name
45MJbr06yK0-00571-00170620-00170799 change but if we're talking about the
45MJbr06yK0-00572-00170800-00171114 oral inhaler the medication or the
45MJbr06yK0-00573-00171115-00171336 medication is not an inhaler at all it
45MJbr06yK0-00574-00171337-00171573 is called an inhaler but in many many
45MJbr06yK0-00575-00171574-00171807 quotes because in reality what it does
45MJbr06yK0-00576-00171808-00172104 when you take let's say let's call it
45MJbr06yK0-00577-00172105-00172434 the puffs is that you're just having
45MJbr06yK0-00578-00172435-00172749 some particles delivered in your oral
45MJbr06yK0-00579-00172750-00173001 mucosa nothing more there is no
45MJbr06yK0-00580-00173002-00173265 inhalation even the nozzle sprays they
45MJbr06yK0-00581-00173266-00173478 don't have an inhalation the only thing
45MJbr06yK0-00582-00173479-00173792 that can deliver somewhat effectively
45MJbr06yK0-00583-00173793-00174254 nicotine to the lungs is a nebulizer
45MJbr06yK0-00584-00174255-00174548 and I can tell you I don't even care if
45MJbr06yK0-00585-00174549-00174812 someone starts you know targeting me or
45MJbr06yK0-00586-00174813-00175226 whatever the best way of delivering
45MJbr06yK0-00587-00175227-00175514 nicotine to the lungs is going to be an
45MJbr06yK0-00588-00175515-00175907 e-cigarette and that I'm telling you
45MJbr06yK0-00589-00175908-00176119 with all honesty and the reason is that
45MJbr06yK0-00590-00176120-00176540 the size of the particles are so small
45MJbr06yK0-00591-00176541-00176843 that they penetrate deep in the lungs I
45MJbr06yK0-00592-00176844-00177080 can tell you and that has nothing to do
45MJbr06yK0-00593-00177081-00177344 with a cigarette as a product that we
45MJbr06yK0-00594-00177345-00177659 have used a very simple commercial
45MJbr06yK0-00595-00177660-00178072 e-cigarette device in which we introduce
45MJbr06yK0-00596-00178073-00178481 PG and E medication nothing else no
45MJbr06yK0-00597-00178482-00178850 nicotine or anything a medication and we
45MJbr06yK0-00598-00178851-00179150 did an animal study of a specific
45MJbr06yK0-00599-00179151-00179396 disease for which this medication is
45MJbr06yK0-00600-00179397-00179687 treating the disease and we compared the
45MJbr06yK0-00601-00179688-00179846 medication delivered through an
45MJbr06yK0-00602-00179847-00180056 e-cigarette through it by inhalation and
45MJbr06yK0-00603-00180057-00180287 the medication administered through the
45MJbr06yK0-00604-00180288-00180485 oral route which is the normal route of
45MJbr06yK0-00605-00180486-00180779 administrative medication and we had the
45MJbr06yK0-00606-00180780-00181181 same exact efficacy with a big
45MJbr06yK0-00607-00181182-00181418 difference that in the e-cigarette we
45MJbr06yK0-00608-00181419-00181847 were delivering 10 times lower dose than
45MJbr06yK0-00609-00181848-00182347 Orrin yes a far more effective and
45MJbr06yK0-00610-00182348-00182612 another question here from Chris no
45MJbr06yK0-00611-00182613-00182726 nothing you might have covered this
45MJbr06yK0-00612-00182727-00182867 already but he says what do you think is
45MJbr06yK0-00613-00182868-00183089 more likely smoking nicotine makes
45MJbr06yK0-00614-00183090-00183323 covert symptoms less severe or that it
45MJbr06yK0-00615-00183324-00183503 makes people less likely to get covered
45MJbr06yK0-00616-00183504-00183773 in the first place I would feel like I
45MJbr06yK0-00617-00183774-00184070 would think that it's much more likely
45MJbr06yK0-00618-00184071-00184439 that when we cut this virus at the same
45MJbr06yK0-00619-00184440-00184715 rate and would just experience less
45MJbr06yK0-00620-00184716-00185072 severe disease you know unless they quit
45MJbr06yK0-00621-00185073-00185321 their nicotine intake when they are sick
45MJbr06yK0-00622-00185322-00185552 this changes things based on these
45MJbr06yK0-00623-00185553-00185639 hypotheses
45MJbr06yK0-00624-00185640-00185993 you know nicotine is going to disappear
45MJbr06yK0-00625-00185994-00186299 from your blood within eight hours of
45MJbr06yK0-00626-00186300-00186611 quitting vaping smoking hit it about we
45MJbr06yK0-00627-00186612-00186908 use or anything else or removing a part
45MJbr06yK0-00628-00186909-00187256 because that's the half-life of nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00629-00187257-00187625 so you need to understand you may be in
45MJbr06yK0-00630-00187626-00187874 long-term smoker for whatever years or a
45MJbr06yK0-00631-00187875-00188291 long-term vapor but once you quit intake
45MJbr06yK0-00632-00188292-00188543 or a quit intake of energy or anything
45MJbr06yK0-00633-00188544-00188822 else we take nicotine levels will drop
45MJbr06yK0-00634-00188823-00189185 to zero in 810 hours that's the reality
45MJbr06yK0-00635-00189186-00189422 it doesn't matter if you have been a
45MJbr06yK0-00636-00189423-00189764 user for 10 or 20 years in 10 hours it
45MJbr06yK0-00637-00189765-00190067 will disappear and if this is the case
45MJbr06yK0-00638-00190068-00190412 you know quitting nicotine is going to
45MJbr06yK0-00639-00190413-00190841 be bad I emphasize if the hypothesis is
45MJbr06yK0-00640-00190842-00191141 true we don't know we haven't proven it
45MJbr06yK0-00641-00191142-00191366 beyond any doubt that this is true as I
45MJbr06yK0-00642-00191367-00191606 said only a clinical trial will prove
45MJbr06yK0-00643-00191607-00192044 that but we are working on looking at it
45MJbr06yK0-00644-00192045-00192440 in in vitro studies in computational
45MJbr06yK0-00645-00192441-00192803 modeling we have released a paper
45MJbr06yK0-00646-00192804-00193061 publication where we used complex
45MJbr06yK0-00647-00193062-00193265 computational modeling and doting
45MJbr06yK0-00648-00193266-00193625 experiments and we found that using the
45MJbr06yK0-00649-00193626-00193937 3 dimensional stress structures of the
45MJbr06yK0-00650-00193938-00194219 virus and of the nicotinic acetylcholine
45MJbr06yK0-00651-00194220-00194642 receptors we found that there are there
45MJbr06yK0-00652-00194643-00194933 is an interaction and there is potential
45MJbr06yK0-00653-00194934-00195181 binding of the virus on the
45MJbr06yK0-00654-00195182-00195746 acetylcholine nicotinic receptor but you
45MJbr06yK0-00655-00195747-00196061 need evidence from in vitro studies or
45MJbr06yK0-00656-00196062-00196304 cell studies or animal studies and of
45MJbr06yK0-00657-00196305-00196616 course at the end you would need a
45MJbr06yK0-00658-00196617-00196898 clinical trial administering nicotine to
45MJbr06yK0-00659-00196899-00197189 patients otherwise you know you don't
45MJbr06yK0-00660-00197190-00197447 have proof that it works in a true
45MJbr06yK0-00661-00197448-00197855 clinical setting okay we've got a
45MJbr06yK0-00662-00197856-00198209 question here on on the mechanics of it
45MJbr06yK0-00663-00198210-00198437 because we've said about the effects and
45MJbr06yK0-00664-00198438-00198581 the science and the research you've
45MJbr06yK0-00665-00198582-00198764 conducted and but other people have
45MJbr06yK0-00666-00198765-00199049 conducted but how something on actually
45MJbr06yK0-00667-00199050-00199376 how the disease is contracted so Richard
45MJbr06yK0-00668-00199377-00199667 pruin asks how does Tsarskoe to interact
45MJbr06yK0-00669-00199668-00199856 with the same receptor as nicotine and
45MJbr06yK0-00670-00199857-00200120 how does this affect nicotine uses so
45MJbr06yK0-00671-00200121-00200393 it's how the virus enters the diamond
45MJbr06yK0-00672-00200394-00200579 and and how nicotine protects the
45MJbr06yK0-00673-00200580-00200686 mechanics behind it
45MJbr06yK0-00674-00200687-00200969 nicotine nicotine Akasha
45MJbr06yK0-00675-00200970-00201202 scepters are available everywhere they
45MJbr06yK0-00676-00201203-00201340 are available in the lungs they are
45MJbr06yK0-00677-00201341-00201497 available basically everywhere in the
45MJbr06yK0-00678-00201498-00201698 nervous system but not only but also in
45MJbr06yK0-00679-00201699-00201778 the immune system
45MJbr06yK0-00680-00201779-00202070 bill bill enforcer still in process
45MJbr06yK0-00681-00202071-00202429 macrophages neutrophils they all have
45MJbr06yK0-00682-00202430-00202762 nicotinic acetylcholine receptors alpha
45MJbr06yK0-00683-00202763-00202937 seven there are several types of
45MJbr06yK0-00684-00202938-00203219 nicotinic acetylcholine receptors mainly
45MJbr06yK0-00685-00203220-00203500 the the cholinergic anti-inflammatory
45MJbr06yK0-00686-00203501-00203827 pathway is mainly mediated through alpha
45MJbr06yK0-00687-00203828-00204325 7 nicotinic acetylcholine receptors so
45MJbr06yK0-00688-00204326-00204719 what is happening we have found that a
45MJbr06yK0-00689-00204720-00204994 region of the virus which is in the
45MJbr06yK0-00690-00204996-00205261 receptor binding domain means on the
45MJbr06yK0-00691-00205262-00205531 surface which also interacts a
45MJbr06yK0-00692-00205532-00205837 neighboring part interacts with the h2
45MJbr06yK0-00693-00205838-00206248 receptor can interact it can interact
45MJbr06yK0-00694-00206250-00206514 based on computational modeling it can
45MJbr06yK0-00695-00206515-00206855 attach on the receptor if it touches on
45MJbr06yK0-00696-00206856-00207154 the receptor it will prevent
45MJbr06yK0-00697-00207155-00207439 acetylcholine from working which is the
45MJbr06yK0-00698-00207440-00207856 normal a neurotransmitter and compound
45MJbr06yK0-00699-00207857-00208198 that is used by the receptor in order to
45MJbr06yK0-00700-00208200-00208430 stimulate its activity now
45MJbr06yK0-00701-00208431-00208694 if the virus goes there it will prevent
45MJbr06yK0-00702-00208694-00208955 the acetylcholine from working on the
45MJbr06yK0-00703-00208956-00209206 receptor and activating the receptor so
45MJbr06yK0-00704-00209207-00209665 it will inhibit its activity nicotine is
45MJbr06yK0-00705-00209666-00209983 a competitive ecology it goes there and
45MJbr06yK0-00706-00209984-00210494 it binds the receptor and it removes
45MJbr06yK0-00707-00210494-00210910 that's our thinking it removes it
45MJbr06yK0-00708-00210911-00211094 prevents the files from attaching there
45MJbr06yK0-00709-00211094-00211379 and by having nicotine attached on the
45MJbr06yK0-00710-00211380-00211739 receptor it promotes the receptor
45MJbr06yK0-00711-00211740-00211792 activity
45MJbr06yK0-00712-00211794-00212067 it doesn't inhibit it's an agonist
45MJbr06yK0-00713-00212069-00212498 agonist means it promotes the activity
45MJbr06yK0-00714-00212498-00212837 if it was an antagonist it inhibits the
45MJbr06yK0-00715-00212838-00213121 activity so what we think is that the
45MJbr06yK0-00716-00213123-00213382 virus attaches to the receptor and
45MJbr06yK0-00717-00213383-00213728 inhibits its activity nicotine is a
45MJbr06yK0-00718-00213729-00213938 competitive advantage which means that
45MJbr06yK0-00719-00213939-00214207 it will compete with the virus for a
45MJbr06yK0-00720-00214208-00214306 receptor at
45MJbr06yK0-00721-00214307-00214633 and once at that their nicotine is going
45MJbr06yK0-00722-00214634-00215098 to promote the receptor activity okay we
45MJbr06yK0-00723-00215099-00215438 got one specifically on snus it was
45MJbr06yK0-00724-00215439-00215629 quite interesting you know get away from
45MJbr06yK0-00725-00215630-00215794 vaping and inhale products
45MJbr06yK0-00726-00215795-00216172 what's the is there any research
45MJbr06yK0-00727-00216173-00216424 available on snowshoes is susceptibility
45MJbr06yK0-00728-00216425-00216692 to covert 19 and would you expect the
45MJbr06yK0-00729-00216692-00216880 data to mirror the results of smokers d
45MJbr06yK0-00730-00216881-00217198 reviewed and send all this is snus is
45MJbr06yK0-00731-00217199-00217327 less harmful to the body could one
45MJbr06yK0-00732-00217328-00217555 express spent less severe Co with 19
45MJbr06yK0-00733-00217556-00217732 results for those in the hospital well I
45MJbr06yK0-00734-00217733-00217984 mentioned a few minutes ago that would
45MJbr06yK0-00735-00217985-00218158 have been another case where we would
45MJbr06yK0-00736-00218159-00218339 have seen much better results because
45MJbr06yK0-00737-00218340-00218632 yes smouch is expected to be much better
45MJbr06yK0-00738-00218633-00218776 it's a much cleaner form of nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00739-00218777-00219239 take Swedes have shown some interest in
45MJbr06yK0-00740-00219240-00219535 looking at that after we have published
45MJbr06yK0-00741-00219536-00219799 again and again about the effects that
45MJbr06yK0-00742-00219800-00220102 we would we see on smoking so they
45MJbr06yK0-00743-00220103-00220289 announced that they're going to look at
45MJbr06yK0-00744-00220290-00220612 it but we have seen nothing yet
45MJbr06yK0-00745-00220613-00221044 Sweden is not very good at recording
45MJbr06yK0-00746-00221045-00221278 comedy 19 so I don't know if in the end
45MJbr06yK0-00747-00221279-00221668 we are going to have satisfactory data
45MJbr06yK0-00748-00221669-00221912 in terms of quantity and quality so I
45MJbr06yK0-00749-00221913-00222025 don't know what's going to happen
45MJbr06yK0-00750-00222026-00222232 but yes smooth would have been a
45MJbr06yK0-00751-00222233-00222590 candidate where which is a product which
45MJbr06yK0-00752-00222591-00222835 is by far less harmful than smoking so
45MJbr06yK0-00753-00222836-00223078 if the effect is based on nicotine yes
45MJbr06yK0-00754-00223079-00223333 it would have been much much better the
45MJbr06yK0-00755-00223334-00224101 effect observed is not an inhalation or
45MJbr06yK0-00756-00224102-00224395 product so you don't inhale nicotine we
45MJbr06yK0-00757-00224396-00224591 would see the effect of a systemic
45MJbr06yK0-00758-00224592-00224864 delivery through the bloodstream so to
45MJbr06yK0-00759-00224865-00225268 the lines not through inhalation right
45MJbr06yK0-00760-00225269-00225467 we've got question from Jackie Orie and
45MJbr06yK0-00761-00225467-00225689 she's asking on I think the key word
45MJbr06yK0-00762-00225690-00226027 here is prevention could be contain
45MJbr06yK0-00763-00226028-00226210 therapies replacement therapies be a
45MJbr06yK0-00764-00226211-00226463 possible prevention against the virus or
45MJbr06yK0-00765-00226464-00226657 is it something that just works when you
45MJbr06yK0-00766-00226658-00226937 contract the virus to fight it off as I
45MJbr06yK0-00767-00226938-00227162 said I think you had a similar question
45MJbr06yK0-00768-00227163-00227524 previously what I was considering is
45MJbr06yK0-00769-00227525-00227675 that no smokers
45MJbr06yK0-00770-00227676-00227794 I'm going to get that this is at the
45MJbr06yK0-00771-00227796-00228119 same rate as non-smokers but they will
45MJbr06yK0-00772-00228119-00228380 have less severe disease but there are a
45MJbr06yK0-00773-00228381-00228592 couple of studies which are finding that
45MJbr06yK0-00774-00228594-00228833 smokers are less likely to be diagnosed
45MJbr06yK0-00775-00228834-00229046 with common 90 which is something
45MJbr06yK0-00776-00229046-00229109 strange
45MJbr06yK0-00777-00229110-00229517 it seems that means basically that yeah
45MJbr06yK0-00778-00229517-00229744 it is possible that smokers are also
45MJbr06yK0-00779-00229746-00230221 less likely to get infected with the
45MJbr06yK0-00780-00230223-00230582 virus itself we don't know why it's
45MJbr06yK0-00781-00230583-00230861 pretty complex we still have to look at
45MJbr06yK0-00782-00230862-00231077 it I think one of the proposals in
45MJbr06yK0-00783-00231078-00231130 France
45MJbr06yK0-00784-00231131-00231491 besides a treatment was also to
45MJbr06yK0-00785-00231492-00231794 administer nicotine as a primary
45MJbr06yK0-00786-00231794-00232219 preventive intervention so give nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-00787-00232221-00232478 replacement therapies to healthcare
45MJbr06yK0-00788-00232479-00232882 professional who are not sick and see if
45MJbr06yK0-00789-00232883-00233156 energies will prevent them from getting
45MJbr06yK0-00790-00233157-00233546 infected with the buyers we've got we
45MJbr06yK0-00791-00233546-00233692 got a question from Bobby Duncan which
45MJbr06yK0-00792-00233694-00234046 is about something on a wider on the
45MJbr06yK0-00793-00234048-00234377 wider scientific side on study which was
45MJbr06yK0-00794-00234378-00234598 about nicotine and parkings and
45MJbr06yK0-00795-00234600-00234830 Parkinson's suffers which was was quite
45MJbr06yK0-00796-00234831-00235187 striking racing was it what sure how
45MJbr06yK0-00797-00235188-00235385 could you so explain that one to us and
45MJbr06yK0-00798-00235386-00235586 what are the consequences of it it was a
45MJbr06yK0-00799-00235587-00235796 British doctor study the study that
45MJbr06yK0-00800-00235796-00236042 initiated in the 50s in the first study
45MJbr06yK0-00801-00236042-00236378 which said that smokers develop lung
45MJbr06yK0-00802-00236379-00236633 cancer and smokers die prematurely it
45MJbr06yK0-00803-00236634-00237038 was a study in British male doctors and
45MJbr06yK0-00804-00237039-00237319 that's why his main doctor study a
45MJbr06yK0-00805-00237321-00237779 follow-up 60 years follow-up they
45MJbr06yK0-00806-00237780-00237938 followed up smokers if they found a
45MJbr06yK0-00807-00237939-00238411 smoker smoking reduces the risk of
45MJbr06yK0-00808-00238412-00238712 developing Parkinson's disease in my
45MJbr06yK0-00809-00238713-00238862 opinion it's very clear that it's not
45MJbr06yK0-00810-00238863-00239135 smoking it's nicotine but they were
45MJbr06yK0-00811-00239136-00239419 looking at smokers and that's what they
45MJbr06yK0-00812-00239421-00239606 found they found the effects of smoking
45MJbr06yK0-00813-00239607-00239821 it's not a surprise at all
45MJbr06yK0-00814-00239823-00240083 we knew that long time ago I don't think
45MJbr06yK0-00815-00240084-00240696 anyone is surprised so it's basically
45MJbr06yK0-00816-00240698-00240878 verification of what we knew
45MJbr06yK0-00817-00240879-00241328 through a huge study with a huge period
45MJbr06yK0-00818-00241329-00241562 of follow-up I mean 60 years that
45MJbr06yK0-00819-00241563-00241811 verifies our findings and I strongly
45MJbr06yK0-00820-00241812-00242042 believe in that case to the tip which
45MJbr06yK0-00821-00242042-00242237 people were taking a cleaner form of
45MJbr06yK0-00822-00242238-00242492 nicotine they would have fared much
45MJbr06yK0-00823-00242492-00242783 better they would have much lower risk
45MJbr06yK0-00824-00242784-00243041 compared to what they showed through the
45MJbr06yK0-00825-00243042-00243398 through smoking a lot unlikes have asked
45MJbr06yK0-00826-00243398-00243737 on on that point as I said it was quite
45MJbr06yK0-00827-00243738-00243986 a striking conclusion from the study and
45MJbr06yK0-00828-00243987-00244127 you think that it would have gathered
45MJbr06yK0-00829-00244128-00244289 more press than they actually did but
45MJbr06yK0-00830-00244290-00244526 the media didn't really go too close to
45MJbr06yK0-00831-00244527-00244865 it so I'm kind of asking you know this
45MJbr06yK0-00832-00244866-00245119 some like 40 or 50 studies every month
45MJbr06yK0-00833-00245121-00245456 on nicotine and this probably thousand I
45MJbr06yK0-00834-00245457-00245714 think the skier committee for the EU TPD
45MJbr06yK0-00835-00245715-00246046 is looking at 2700 studies and yet the
45MJbr06yK0-00836-00246048-00246230 only ones that seem to get headlines are
45MJbr06yK0-00837-00246231-00246407 the ones that have got scary outcomes
45MJbr06yK0-00838-00246408-00246584 and a lot of them are funded by people
45MJbr06yK0-00839-00246585-00246887 like Michael Bloomberg so how do we get
45MJbr06yK0-00840-00246888-00247163 positive results and positive messages
45MJbr06yK0-00841-00247164-00247382 up in the media well how can we stop all
45MJbr06yK0-00842-00247383-00247616 the research just being terrible
45MJbr06yK0-00843-00247617-00247835 headlines and scaring people away from
45MJbr06yK0-00844-00247836-00248135 the general before coming here I had an
45MJbr06yK0-00845-00248136-00248456 interview and we were discussing the
45MJbr06yK0-00846-00248457-00248744 issue of nicotine co19 and they were
45MJbr06yK0-00847-00248744-00249128 asking me about these findings in these
45MJbr06yK0-00848-00249129-00249398 studies being contradictory to the
45MJbr06yK0-00849-00249398-00249823 narrative of the wh o which is you know
45MJbr06yK0-00850-00249825-00250073 smoking makes it more severe it makes
45MJbr06yK0-00851-00250073-00250262 people more susceptible to come in and
45MJbr06yK0-00852-00250263-00250583 so on my response was that I'm a
45MJbr06yK0-00853-00250584-00250891 scientist and does assign these
45MJbr06yK0-00854-00250892-00251135 narratives are not my job
45MJbr06yK0-00855-00251136-00251498 my job is to look at the data analyze
45MJbr06yK0-00856-00251498-00251885 the data and whatever I find good bad
45MJbr06yK0-00857-00251886-00252251 ugly strange paradoxical I need to
45MJbr06yK0-00858-00252252-00252544 publish everything I find but it's not
45MJbr06yK0-00859-00252546-00252839 my job to create narratives and to try
45MJbr06yK0-00860-00252840-00253358 to substantiate or justify narratives so
45MJbr06yK0-00861-00253359-00253964 I don't care about narratives if one of
45MJbr06yK0-00862-00253965-00254244 my studies is favoring one narrative
45MJbr06yK0-00863-00254244-00254619 they can use it I'm not doing a study
45MJbr06yK0-00864-00254619-00254960 and I'm not releasing results because I
45MJbr06yK0-00865-00254961-00255366 want to support an X or a Y narrative
45MJbr06yK0-00866-00255367-00255680 I'm doing the studies because I feel
45MJbr06yK0-00867-00255681-00255956 that the study any study I do has some
45MJbr06yK0-00868-00255957-00256287 value and I want to see what's happening
45MJbr06yK0-00869-00256288-00256523 with you know every study has a purpose
45MJbr06yK0-00870-00256525-00256925 and whatever I find I publish it because
45MJbr06yK0-00871-00256926-00257273 that's what the data and say now if it
45MJbr06yK0-00872-00257275-00257463 favors one narrative or another
45MJbr06yK0-00873-00257464-00257858 narrative that's not even not only not
45MJbr06yK0-00874-00257859-00258090 my job but I don't even care
45MJbr06yK0-00875-00258091-00258465 which narrative it may you know support
45MJbr06yK0-00876-00258466-00259157 or you know be against against what I
45MJbr06yK0-00877-00259158-00259573 care is about data generating and
45MJbr06yK0-00878-00259575-00259883 publishing data which can help us make
45MJbr06yK0-00879-00259884-00260260 decisions or make changes in products or
45MJbr06yK0-00880-00260261-00260619 you know improve our policies improve
45MJbr06yK0-00881-00260619-00260882 our understanding provide better advice
45MJbr06yK0-00882-00260883-00261278 of the patients but narratives is not my
45MJbr06yK0-00883-00261279-00261792 job so unfortunately what you are saying
45MJbr06yK0-00884-00261792-00262271 is that you know there is a selective
45MJbr06yK0-00885-00262272-00262556 presentation by the media of studies
45MJbr06yK0-00886-00262557-00262759 that support the specific narrative
45MJbr06yK0-00887-00262760-00263033 that's not science and that's a big
45MJbr06yK0-00888-00263034-00263306 problem I don't know what we need we
45MJbr06yK0-00889-00263307-00263435 need better science journalist and
45MJbr06yK0-00890-00263436-00263715 basically you can better access to the
45MJbr06yK0-00891-00263716-00263951 media that's the problem since the
45MJbr06yK0-00892-00263952-00264318 beginning has been accessed yeah okay
45MJbr06yK0-00893-00264319-00264471 we've got we've got another question
45MJbr06yK0-00894-00264472-00264827 from Chris of Snowden on on the workings
45MJbr06yK0-00895-00264828-00265020 of your science people hospitals with
45MJbr06yK0-00896-00265021-00265299 code 19 are on average between 60 and 70
45MJbr06yK0-00897-00265300-00265484 what's the smoking rate amongst people
45MJbr06yK0-00898-00265485-00265743 this age in China and are your findings
45MJbr06yK0-00899-00265744-00266190 adjusted for age in the first study no
45MJbr06yK0-00900-00266191-00266408 but in the latest study which is going
45MJbr06yK0-00901-00266409-00266555 to be published in a few days
45MJbr06yK0-00902-00266556-00266814 that was a surprise that I hoped they
45MJbr06yK0-00903-00266815-00267253 would ask but we did add gender and
45MJbr06yK0-00904-00267254-00267599 image adjustment so a problem with the
45MJbr06yK0-00905-00267600-00267627 age
45MJbr06yK0-00906-00267628-00268068 judgment is that we had no idea what was
45MJbr06yK0-00907-00268069-00268497 the age of the Smokies we knew the
45MJbr06yK0-00908-00268498-00268893 average age of all patients and I can
45MJbr06yK0-00909-00268894-00269094 tell you that in all our studies the
45MJbr06yK0-00910-00269095-00269379 average age of the patients in all cases
45MJbr06yK0-00911-00269380-00269862 was below 60 it was from 4045 to I think
45MJbr06yK0-00912-00269863-00270285 the highest average age was 57 or
45MJbr06yK0-00913-00270286-00270644 something like that it was not 74 sure
45MJbr06yK0-00914-00270645-00271035 so but we had no idea what's the age of
45MJbr06yK0-00915-00271036-00271272 the Smokies that's the amount the data
45MJbr06yK0-00916-00271273-00271602 that they were giving us so what we did
45MJbr06yK0-00917-00271603-00271974 is something which said I can say it was
45MJbr06yK0-00918-00271975-00272046 creative
45MJbr06yK0-00919-00272047-00272486 we used a worst-case scenario we chose
45MJbr06yK0-00920-00272487-00272942 the population group with the lowest
45MJbr06yK0-00921-00272943-00273333 smoking rate which is above 65 years old
45MJbr06yK0-00922-00273334-00273714 so we performed an age adjustment you
45MJbr06yK0-00923-00273715-00273954 will see it in a few days and the age of
45MJbr06yK0-00924-00273955-00274143 judgment that we performed is the
45MJbr06yK0-00925-00274144-00274493 assumption that all patients are above
45MJbr06yK0-00926-00274494-00275055 65 years old and that was higher than
45MJbr06yK0-00927-00275056-00275223 the average age
45MJbr06yK0-00928-00275224-00275424 the average age in all the studies and
45MJbr06yK0-00929-00275425-00275646 we have a table displaying the average
45MJbr06yK0-00930-00275647-00276021 age was lower than 65 lower than 16 on
45MJbr06yK0-00931-00276022-00276534 studies but the aged judgment was a 65
45MJbr06yK0-00932-00276535-00276939 or higher so we used the population
45MJbr06yK0-00933-00276940-00277401 smoking rate in the age groups 65 and
45MJbr06yK0-00934-00277402-00277953 older for China for France for us in all
45MJbr06yK0-00935-00277954-00278343 our assessments the expected number of
45MJbr06yK0-00936-00278344-00278718 smokers was based on gender adjustment
45MJbr06yK0-00937-00278719-00279030 once so females and males who were
45MJbr06yK0-00938-00279031-00279306 hospitalized and respective female and
45MJbr06yK0-00939-00279307-00279638 male population prevalence and age
45MJbr06yK0-00940-00279639-00279909 adjustment using the worst case scenario
45MJbr06yK0-00941-00279910-00280226 which is an assumption that everyone was
45MJbr06yK0-00942-00280227-00280971 age 65 or older and based on that
45MJbr06yK0-00943-00280972-00281223 what I said before is that what we found
45MJbr06yK0-00944-00281224-00281646 was one third they expected prevalence
45MJbr06yK0-00945-00281647-00281970 and that was based on the age and gender
45MJbr06yK0-00946-00281971-00282333 adjustment both when we did only the
45MJbr06yK0-00947-00282334-00282666 gentle adjustment it was one fourth to
45MJbr06yK0-00948-00282667-00283034 one fifth the expected prevalence but I
45MJbr06yK0-00949-00283035-00283305 didn't even mention that I mentioned the
45MJbr06yK0-00950-00283306-00283724 one fair they expected prevalence that's
45MJbr06yK0-00951-00283725-00284055 sixty-six percent lower that's what it
45MJbr06yK0-00952-00284056-00284091 means
45MJbr06yK0-00953-00284092-00284352 two thirds lower than what you would
45MJbr06yK0-00954-00284353-00284694 expect based on both age and gender
45MJbr06yK0-00955-00284695-00284946 adjustment and as I said the eighth
45MJbr06yK0-00956-00284947-00285341 adjustment we did underestimates they
45MJbr06yK0-00957-00285342-00285603 expected prevalence not the true
45MJbr06yK0-00958-00285604-00285804 prevalence it underestimates the
45MJbr06yK0-00959-00285805-00286227 expected prevalence you spoil the
45MJbr06yK0-00960-00286228-00286851 surprise submitted my proof Corrections
45MJbr06yK0-00961-00286852-00287040 yesterday so I think it's just a matter
45MJbr06yK0-00962-00287041-00287208 of a few days until it is released
45MJbr06yK0-00963-00287209-00287556 publicly the study was accepted on May
45MJbr06yK0-00964-00287557-00287994 28 many days ago it's just that you know
45MJbr06yK0-00965-00287995-00288168 it takes time for the journals until
45MJbr06yK0-00966-00288169-00288357 they prepare the documents and send you
45MJbr06yK0-00967-00288358-00288657 for their syntax error Corrections and
45MJbr06yK0-00968-00288658-00288972 so on well this brings us on you saying
45MJbr06yK0-00969-00288973-00289113 that's current research because you
45MJbr06yK0-00970-00289114-00289440 release the papers yours was published a
45MJbr06yK0-00971-00289441-00289794 few days ago was it not about changes in
45MJbr06yK0-00972-00289795-00290052 e-cigarette use and marijuana use in USL
45MJbr06yK0-00973-00290053-00290241 and adolescence we've got a screen to
45MJbr06yK0-00974-00290242-00290421 share with that and Jonah talk very
45MJbr06yK0-00975-00290422-00290571 briefly about that and what you found
45MJbr06yK0-00976-00290572-00290943 from that it's we are trying to publish
45MJbr06yK0-00977-00290944-00291460 for more than a year there is an amazing
45MJbr06yK0-00978-00291461-00291900 level of resistance to that by the
45MJbr06yK0-00979-00291901-00292131 reviewers I'm not suggesting that the
45MJbr06yK0-00980-00292132-00292289 journals didn't do their job correctly
45MJbr06yK0-00981-00292290-00292527 they have to follow what the reviewers
45MJbr06yK0-00982-00292528-00292974 are telling them but we had very very
45MJbr06yK0-00983-00292975-00293182 strong resistance because the
45MJbr06yK0-00984-00293183-00293457 controversial issue well what we found
45MJbr06yK0-00985-00293458-00293814 is that yes in u.s. adolescents using
45MJbr06yK0-00986-00293815-00293979 the National Youth tobacco survey the
45MJbr06yK0-00987-00293980-00294360 survey that is published is is damaged
45MJbr06yK0-00988-00294361-00294711 formed by the US CDC so it's not our own
45MJbr06yK0-00989-00294712-00294924 data we just download the data salumi
45MJbr06yK0-00990-00294925-00295314 analyzer there was an increase in
45MJbr06yK0-00991-00295315-00295773 e-cigarette use from 2017 2018 but they
45MJbr06yK0-00992-00295774-00296346 use by never smoking youth was largely
45MJbr06yK0-00993-00296347-00296829 experimental and by far by far lower
45MJbr06yK0-00994-00296830-00297300 than the range of use among youth with a
45MJbr06yK0-00995-00297301-00297576 positive smoking history a big
45MJbr06yK0-00996-00297577-00297993 difference big difference 16% of
45MJbr06yK0-00997-00297994-00298353 frequent smokers were using a cigarettes
45MJbr06yK0-00998-00298354-00299226 daily versus 0.48% so 0.5 HZ % of never
45MJbr06yK0-00999-00299227-00299850 smoking youth using e-cigarettes day 30
45MJbr06yK0-01000-00299851-00300216 times lower yes so a big difference
45MJbr06yK0-01001-00300217-00300573 between never smokers and kids with a
45MJbr06yK0-01002-00300574-00300765 smoking history current or former
45MJbr06yK0-01003-00300766-00301026 smokers unfortunately the problem is
45MJbr06yK0-01004-00301027-00301362 that while the same study is assessing
45MJbr06yK0-01005-00301363-00301698 both tobacco cigarette use and ethical
45MJbr06yK0-01006-00301699-00302009 abuse you never see the authorities
45MJbr06yK0-01007-00302010-00302325 presenting the two data combined and I
45MJbr06yK0-01008-00302326-00302679 don't understand why we keep on
45MJbr06yK0-01009-00302680-00302910 discussing about current youth which is
45MJbr06yK0-01010-00302911-00303147 Bastile teenagers which means that
45MJbr06yK0-01011-00303148-00303392 someone may take one puff per month and
45MJbr06yK0-01012-00303393-00303789 c or c is a current user in the same way
45MJbr06yK0-01013-00303790-00304086 that someone with a daily user and he or
45MJbr06yK0-01014-00304087-00304389 she is also considered a current user
45MJbr06yK0-01015-00304390-00304758 and no discusses about the smoking
45MJbr06yK0-01016-00304759-00305091 status of e-cigarette users I don't even
45MJbr06yK0-01017-00305092-00305322 understand that I published one study
45MJbr06yK0-01018-00305323-00305673 about the 2015 and white yes now the
45MJbr06yK0-01019-00305674-00305910 study with our colleagues with my
45MJbr06yK0-01020-00305911-00306339 colleagues for 2017-18 and the second
45MJbr06yK0-01021-00306340-00306681 very important message is that the vast
45MJbr06yK0-01022-00306682-00306969 majority of adolescents who are using a
45MJbr06yK0-01023-00306970-00307374 cigarette reported ever marijuana used
45MJbr06yK0-01024-00307375-00307719 with any cigarette it's close to 70%
45MJbr06yK0-01025-00307720-00308264 of everyone even 60% of never smoking
45MJbr06yK0-01026-00308265-00308528 adolescents who use e-cigarettes they
45MJbr06yK0-01027-00308529-00308901 reported ever marijuana use with an
45MJbr06yK0-01028-00308902-00309321 e-cigarette 60% of them and what's the
45MJbr06yK0-01029-00309322-00309434 value of ever marijuana
45MJbr06yK0-01030-00309435-00309738 well none but unfortunately the problem
45MJbr06yK0-01031-00309739-00309963 with I mean what's the value of the
45MJbr06yK0-01032-00309964-00310205 information about ever marijuana it's
45MJbr06yK0-01033-00310206-00310505 very limited but this was the only
45MJbr06yK0-01034-00310506-00310890 question that was available the CBC we
45MJbr06yK0-01035-00310891-00311172 were the first in the NY guess study by
45MJbr06yK0-01036-00311173-00311472 the CDC we were the first to analyze
45MJbr06yK0-01037-00311473-00311865 that and the main point of our paper is
45MJbr06yK0-01038-00311866-00312138 that with this information with this
45MJbr06yK0-01039-00312139-00312449 question it is impossible to understand
45MJbr06yK0-01040-00312450-00312819 what proportion of adolescents may be
45MJbr06yK0-01041-00312820-00313178 using cigarettes predominantly Oliver
45MJbr06yK0-01042-00313179-00313580 Lake exclusively for marijuana use and
45MJbr06yK0-01043-00313581-00313818 this is a very important research
45MJbr06yK0-01044-00313819-00314274 question so we suggested that the CDC
45MJbr06yK0-01045-00314275-00314608 should expand the questionnaire on
45MJbr06yK0-01046-00314609-00314906 e-cigarettes on marijuana use with any
45MJbr06yK0-01047-00314907-00315181 cigarette and add more questions
45MJbr06yK0-01048-00315182-00315632 examining frequency of use and so on but
45MJbr06yK0-01049-00315633-00315918 we published our study with a suggestion
45MJbr06yK0-01050-00315919-00316473 what the CDC did in 2019 was remove even
45MJbr06yK0-01051-00316474-00316685 the question about ever use so now they
45MJbr06yK0-01052-00316686-00316958 don't have any question about marijuana
45MJbr06yK0-01053-00316959-00317292 usually my cigarette they imply that
45MJbr06yK0-01054-00317293-00317487 when you talk about the cigarettes you
45MJbr06yK0-01055-00317488-00317745 also include marijuana into that which
45MJbr06yK0-01056-00317746-00318048 is completely inappropriate for a simple
45MJbr06yK0-01057-00318049-00318369 issue I would accept that for nicotine
45MJbr06yK0-01058-00318370-00318757 or non nicotine PG and VG based liquids
45MJbr06yK0-01059-00318758-00319055 flavours may be a reason for using these
45MJbr06yK0-01060-00319056-00319358 products for marijuana flavor sorry
45MJbr06yK0-01061-00319359-00319590 relevant no one is going to use
45MJbr06yK0-01062-00319591-00319923 marijuana because of flavors but require
45MJbr06yK0-01063-00319924-00320503 liquids are lipid based lipid soluble
45MJbr06yK0-01064-00320504-00321008 liquid nicotine or non- flavored liquid
45MJbr06yK0-01065-00321009-00321381 water-soluble flame liquids they are
45MJbr06yK0-01066-00321382-00321738 very very different they need different
45MJbr06yK0-01067-00321739-00321882 standards they need different
45MJbr06yK0-01068-00321883-00322071 regulations they have different
45MJbr06yK0-01069-00322072-00322368 compositions different ingredients they
45MJbr06yK0-01070-00322369-00322680 need a different regulatory framework so
45MJbr06yK0-01071-00322681-00323024 there is absolutely no rationale in
45MJbr06yK0-01072-00323025-00323298 including everything into one category
45MJbr06yK0-01073-00323299-00323817 and collecti cigarette use and the vast
45MJbr06yK0-01074-00323818-00324051 majority of the population believe that
45MJbr06yK0-01075-00324052-00324222 a valley was caused by negative in
45MJbr06yK0-01076-00324223-00325047 Queens while it was very easy to prove
45MJbr06yK0-01077-00325048-00325464 that and why because for 10 years we
45MJbr06yK0-01078-00325465-00325815 never had any outbreak of acute lung
45MJbr06yK0-01079-00325816-00326184 disease in any country not even the US
45MJbr06yK0-01080-00326185-00326564 and suddenly in 2019 we have an outbreak
45MJbr06yK0-01081-00326565-00326985 only in the US when the same nicotine in
45MJbr06yK0-01082-00326986-00327309 liquids have been used for 10 years all
45MJbr06yK0-01083-00327310-00327630 over the world it didn't make any sense
45MJbr06yK0-01084-00327631-00327987 that nicotine liquids were associated
45MJbr06yK0-01085-00327988-00328311 with a value but the way it was approved
45MJbr06yK0-01086-00328312-00328526 by the authorities and this
45MJbr06yK0-01087-00328527-00328962 misinformation about and miss this bad
45MJbr06yK0-01088-00328963-00329220 terminology the terminology problem that
45MJbr06yK0-01089-00329221-00329502 we call everything we evaporated inhale
45MJbr06yK0-01090-00329503-00329837 we call it an e-cigarette create this
45MJbr06yK0-01091-00329838-00330408 misperception which is propagating you
45MJbr06yK0-01092-00330409-00330720 know it's being addressed at all it gets
45MJbr06yK0-01093-00330721-00331424 worse over time it's bad public health
45MJbr06yK0-01094-00331425-00331827 right yeah but this leads into coming to
45MJbr06yK0-01095-00331828-00332013 the end here we go time for maybe a
45MJbr06yK0-01096-00332014-00332208 couple more questions so this this one
45MJbr06yK0-01097-00332209-00332484 Judy Gibson again she's got asking does
45MJbr06yK0-01098-00332485-00332622 the nna have sufficient traction with
45MJbr06yK0-01099-00332623-00332853 NHS England public holding into requests
45MJbr06yK0-01100-00332854-00333036 or new cases of Covey's 1900 asked if
45MJbr06yK0-01101-00333037-00333225 they currently use e-cigarettes or hate
45MJbr06yK0-01102-00333226-00333441 nor burn now I just sort of reword that
45MJbr06yK0-01103-00333442-00333567 question of it you were talking about
45MJbr06yK0-01104-00333568-00333741 the distinction between different
45MJbr06yK0-01105-00333742-00333990 different thing is it not the case now
45MJbr06yK0-01106-00333991-00334215 that the because of these surprising
45MJbr06yK0-01107-00334216-00334362 results we've seen with
45MJbr06yK0-01108-00334363-00334710 19 and nicotine that routinely when
45MJbr06yK0-01109-00334711-00334827 people have admitted to hospital they
45MJbr06yK0-01110-00334828-00335022 should be asked about which form of
45MJbr06yK0-01111-00335023-00335226 nicotine they take rather than just do
45MJbr06yK0-01112-00335227-00335547 you smoke yes yes it needs to be
45MJbr06yK0-01113-00335548-00335778 differentiated because I think that and
45MJbr06yK0-01114-00335779-00335952 especially if my hypothesis about
45MJbr06yK0-01115-00335953-00336333 nicotine correct that inhaling a cleaner
45MJbr06yK0-01116-00336334-00336791 nicotine product like cigarettes
45MJbr06yK0-01117-00336792-00337125 products or anything is going to be if
45MJbr06yK0-01118-00337126-00337365 nicotine is beneficial you're gonna see
45MJbr06yK0-01119-00337366-00337575 stronger benefits in these people
45MJbr06yK0-01120-00337576-00337818 running smokers because in smokers you
45MJbr06yK0-01121-00337819-00337992 may have a benefit from nicotine but you
45MJbr06yK0-01122-00337993-00338148 also have the adverse effect of the
45MJbr06yK0-01123-00338149-00338514 combustion products so one counteract
45MJbr06yK0-01124-00338515-00338901 the other and you may you may have as I
45MJbr06yK0-01125-00338902-00339240 said a partial masking of the benefits
45MJbr06yK0-01126-00339241-00339552 of nicotine so your yes it's very
45MJbr06yK0-01127-00339553-00339728 important to differentiate between
45MJbr06yK0-01128-00339729-00340089 nicotine products I agree with you and I
45MJbr06yK0-01129-00340090-00340425 hope Judy is not our only viewer because
45MJbr06yK0-01130-00340426-00340764 Judy is asking enough questions now
45MJbr06yK0-01131-00340765-00340944 we've got quite full Rebecca I think
45MJbr06yK0-01132-00340945-00341151 we've got plenty questions but we're not
45MJbr06yK0-01133-00341152-00341388 gonna get through now I'm Felipe I'm
45MJbr06yK0-01134-00341389-00341757 going to finish on this one from Jeff
45MJbr06yK0-01135-00341758-00341988 cliff who's a smoker of 50 odd years and
45MJbr06yK0-01136-00341989-00342138 he made the switch to vaping six and a
45MJbr06yK0-01137-00342139-00342402 half years ago he's talking about
45MJbr06yK0-01138-00342403-00342582 research and he's indebted to you for
45MJbr06yK0-01139-00342583-00342846 your efforts in that regard but do you
45MJbr06yK0-01140-00342847-00343194 see this is an ongoing mission oh yes
45MJbr06yK0-01141-00343195-00343746 for many years and you know when I first
45MJbr06yK0-01142-00343747-00344064 entered this research arena and this
45MJbr06yK0-01143-00344065-00344754 research field it wouldn't make sense in
45MJbr06yK0-01144-00344755-00345128 any other research area the level of
45MJbr06yK0-01145-00345129-00345629 politics and emotion here overcomes any
45MJbr06yK0-01146-00345630-00346163 scientific you know principle and
45MJbr06yK0-01147-00346164-00346443 conduct that we see in other research
45MJbr06yK0-01148-00346444-00346914 means it's unbelievable people who don't
45MJbr06yK0-01149-00346915-00347364 work in the tobacco control arena and in
45MJbr06yK0-01150-00347365-00347598 tobacco control public health you know
45MJbr06yK0-01151-00347599-00347759 field
45MJbr06yK0-01152-00347760-00348026 when you explain to them in simple words
45MJbr06yK0-01153-00348027-00348237 what's the cigarette or what are these
45MJbr06yK0-01154-00348238-00348503 alternative products they don't
45MJbr06yK0-01155-00348504-00348837 understand why there is any controversy
45MJbr06yK0-01156-00348838-00349082 or any you know intense debate about
45MJbr06yK0-01157-00349083-00349314 this product they don't get it they
45MJbr06yK0-01158-00349315-00349585 don't understand why there is opposition
45MJbr06yK0-01159-00349586-00349989 but you know people who know what the
45MJbr06yK0-01160-00349990-00350174 tobacco control are in the way we see
45MJbr06yK0-01161-00350175-00350442 that things are very very different you
45MJbr06yK0-01162-00350443-00350670 know what I think this will be recorded
45MJbr06yK0-01163-00350671-00351310 in history as a black period a very
45MJbr06yK0-01164-00351311-00351540 unfortunate and embarrassing period in
45MJbr06yK0-01165-00351541-00351752 public health in the same way that the
45MJbr06yK0-01166-00351753-00352082 first years of the AIDS epidemic were
45MJbr06yK0-01167-00352083-00352522 recorded in history for the wh all
45MJbr06yK0-01168-00352523-00352781 reaction and approach and everything as
45MJbr06yK0-01169-00352782-00353097 a black period as a medieval period for
45MJbr06yK0-01170-00353098-00353378 public health as it has been for harm
45MJbr06yK0-01171-00353379-00353657 reduction for intravenous drug users I
45MJbr06yK0-01172-00353658-00354039 think this is also or potentially worse
45MJbr06yK0-01173-00354040-00354353 I must say why because it's so many
45MJbr06yK0-01174-00354354-00354687 lives at stake I'll be honest with you
45MJbr06yK0-01175-00354688-00355188 if cigarettes were supported by the vast
45MJbr06yK0-01176-00355189-00355437 majority of the governments the
45MJbr06yK0-01177-00355438-00355671 regulators and the scientific community
45MJbr06yK0-01178-00355672-00356083 I think we would have been very close to
45MJbr06yK0-01179-00356084-00356402 eliminate it's more eliminating smoking
45MJbr06yK0-01180-00356403-00356697 everywhere in the world including the
45MJbr06yK0-01181-00356698-00356972 poor countries because if there was
45MJbr06yK0-01182-00356973-00357315 support there would have been motives to
45MJbr06yK0-01183-00357316-00357642 create cheaper products produced locally
45MJbr06yK0-01184-00357643-00357845 even in low and middle income countries
45MJbr06yK0-01185-00357846-00358038 which would have been much more
45MJbr06yK0-01186-00358039-00358403 affordable for people who now smoke or
45MJbr06yK0-01187-00358404-00358767 use local pretty bad products and we
45MJbr06yK0-01188-00358768-00358997 would have almost eliminated smoking
45MJbr06yK0-01189-00358998-00359576 it's this opposition by the part of the
45MJbr06yK0-01190-00359577-00359900 tobacco control field its parts not all
45MJbr06yK0-01191-00359901-00360080 of them and by the regulatory
45MJbr06yK0-01192-00360081-00360341 authorities in this all very
45MJbr06yK0-01193-00360342-00360452 precautionary
45MJbr06yK0-01194-00360453-00360705 I call it usually abused
45MJbr06yK0-01195-00360706-00360943 the precautionary principle that has
45MJbr06yK0-01196-00360944-00361368 stalled the problem progress that would
45MJbr06yK0-01197-00361369-00361845 have been made by just accepting that we
45MJbr06yK0-01198-00361846-00362121 may know very few things but at least
45MJbr06yK0-01199-00362122-00362413 these products is cigarettes don't have
45MJbr06yK0-01200-00362414-00362784 any combustion and that enough evidence
45MJbr06yK0-01201-00362785-00363327 at the beginning in early 2010 to accept
45MJbr06yK0-01202-00363328-00363585 that this is a less harmful product and
45MJbr06yK0-01203-00363586-00363837 nothing we don't need anything more I
45MJbr06yK0-01204-00363838-00364029 totally agree with you about history
45MJbr06yK0-01205-00364030-00364278 will judge this very badly I've had very
45MJbr06yK0-01206-00364279-00364551 many times myself yeah so and and good
45MJbr06yK0-01207-00364552-00364734 luck with your ongoing battle with these
45MJbr06yK0-01208-00364735-00365028 people we're all behind you obviously so
45MJbr06yK0-01209-00365029-00365212 we're gonna have to come to a close I'm
45MJbr06yK0-01210-00365213-00365328 afraid because we run out of time but
45MJbr06yK0-01211-00365329-00365518 but yeah thank you Constantinus for
45MJbr06yK0-01212-00365519-00365692 giving us your time we know you're very
45MJbr06yK0-01213-00365693-00365784 busy
45MJbr06yK0-01214-00365785-00365979 you came hotfoot from was it a radio
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45MJbr06yK0-01216-00366385-00366531 indebted to you for giving us some of
45MJbr06yK0-01217-00366532-00366696 your time and and it was a great
45MJbr06yK0-01218-00366697-00366882 discussion so I just like to say that
45MJbr06yK0-01219-00366883-00367020 one little thing I see you've talked
45MJbr06yK0-01220-00367021-00367366 about marijuana and we have had an idea
45MJbr06yK0-01221-00367367-00367524 of maybe doing one of these webinars on
45MJbr06yK0-01222-00367525-00367727 dry herb vaporizers or something so
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45MJbr06yK0-01239-00371509-00371713 Konstantinos and i hope everyone enjoyed
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