u4yPlB_Otl0-00000-00000001-00000246 we talk about youth homelessness and u4yPlB_Otl0-00001-00000247-00000368 homelessness in general finding u4yPlB_Otl0-00002-00000369-00000564 affordable rant about unemployment there u4yPlB_Otl0-00003-00000565-00000678 was a third question at one of our youth u4yPlB_Otl0-00004-00000679-00000969 asked as well and it was kind of have an u4yPlB_Otl0-00005-00000969-00001104 interesting question I didn't expect it u4yPlB_Otl0-00006-00001105-00001422 he said this he understood that there u4yPlB_Otl0-00007-00001423-00001632 was some turmoil City Council last term u4yPlB_Otl0-00008-00001632-00001869 and wondered what he would do if elected u4yPlB_Otl0-00009-00001870-00002163 mayor to bring council together they u4yPlB_Otl0-00010-00002164-00002426 lowered the first thing we need on u4yPlB_Otl0-00011-00002427-00002814 council is strong leadership and we've u4yPlB_Otl0-00012-00002815-00003138 suffered from weak leadership over the u4yPlB_Otl0-00013-00003139-00003515 last term and that that has been the u4yPlB_Otl0-00014-00003517-00003872 major problem the marriage not in charge u4yPlB_Otl0-00015-00003873-00004100 I think there's a counselor that's in u4yPlB_Otl0-00016-00004101-00005111 charge and a nightmare has a bunch of u4yPlB_Otl0-00017-00005112-00005846 bobble heads to do everything that she u4yPlB_Otl0-00018-00005847-00006194 wants them to do I think that's wrong so u4yPlB_Otl0-00019-00006195-00006366 one of the things to get away from this u4yPlB_Otl0-00020-00006367-00006695 if I were mayor I would introduce u4yPlB_Otl0-00021-00006695-00006990 computerized voting so that everybody u4yPlB_Otl0-00022-00006991-00007256 votes at the same time you can't say u4yPlB_Otl0-00023-00007258-00007452 well house how's that person voting u4yPlB_Otl0-00024-00007453-00007791 because that's my that's my clue as to u4yPlB_Otl0-00025-00007792-00007965 how so and the other thing about u4yPlB_Otl0-00026-00007966-00008325 computer like holding not ready at the u4yPlB_Otl0-00027-00008326-00008589 same time and all of the voting records u4yPlB_Otl0-00028-00008590-00008937 would be available to voters come u4yPlB_Otl0-00029-00008938-00009228 election day so order could support u4yPlB_Otl0-00030-00009229-00009606 something like the incinerator and then u4yPlB_Otl0-00031-00009607-00009837 say oh no I didn't vote for that or u4yPlB_Otl0-00032-00009838-00010134 won't to wipe out the Lord system and u4yPlB_Otl0-00033-00010135-00010569 say oh no I didn't look for that so we u4yPlB_Otl0-00034-00010570-00010848 have to make politicians far more u4yPlB_Otl0-00035-00010849-00011127 accountable and its board on action step u4yPlB_Otl0-00036-00011128-00011346 that's that I'll buddy to that John did u4yPlB_Otl0-00037-00011347-00011574 you want to respond to that you know u4yPlB_Otl0-00038-00011575-00011883 that members of council follow blame in u4yPlB_Otl0-00039-00011884-00012030 this black and their behavior u4yPlB_Otl0-00040-00012031-00012351 zero and you can have a great debate to u4yPlB_Otl0-00041-00012352-00012519 have a lot of passion but when it's over u4yPlB_Otl0-00042-00012520-00012630 the issues over you go on to the next u4yPlB_Otl0-00043-00012631-00012902 issue our problem is as we continue to u4yPlB_Otl0-00044-00012903-00013122 rehash issues and issues and issues and u4yPlB_Otl0-00045-00013122-00013308 once they're done they're done you know u4yPlB_Otl0-00046-00013309-00013518 everybody in this room was taught how to u4yPlB_Otl0-00047-00013519-00013766 behave by your family or the parents and u4yPlB_Otl0-00048-00013766-00014052 you know you live by that code so in the u4yPlB_Otl0-00049-00014053-00014268 council chambers sometimes it gets to be u4yPlB_Otl0-00050-00014269-00014555 ruckus it does it the region as well but u4yPlB_Otl0-00051-00014556-00014750 when the issues over it's over and she u4yPlB_Otl0-00052-00014751-00015204 go on to the next oh I'm gonna speak to u4yPlB_Otl0-00053-00015205-00015657 this I'm sorry but what what's u4yPlB_Otl0-00054-00015658-00015994 transpired in this current council is u4yPlB_Otl0-00055-00015995-00016508 unacceptable from just the discussion u4yPlB_Otl0-00056-00016509-00016827 hasn't happened they've shut every u4yPlB_Otl0-00057-00016828-00017033 discussion down they've blocked every u4yPlB_Otl0-00058-00017034-00017172 opportunity for people to bring u4yPlB_Otl0-00059-00017173-00017442 questions forward they have opposed u4yPlB_Otl0-00060-00017443-00017727 people from asking the questions and u4yPlB_Otl0-00061-00017728-00017985 they do it in a block of eight to three u4yPlB_Otl0-00062-00017986-00018336 and they were steadfast league and u4yPlB_Otl0-00063-00018337-00018647 uniformly denied the people the right to u4yPlB_Otl0-00064-00018648-00018852 know what's going on with their city so u4yPlB_Otl0-00065-00018853-00019097 yeah we wanted to know is what you would u4yPlB_Otl0-00066-00019098-00019284 do well I don't even get a dress that u4yPlB_Otl0-00067-00019285-00019611 okay it did the thing that we have and I u4yPlB_Otl0-00068-00019612-00019769 started to do it I'm bringing forth u4yPlB_Otl0-00069-00019770-00020228 information I've ever pulled in from fo u4yPlB_Otl0-00070-00020229-00020559 eyes to show that the system is broken u4yPlB_Otl0-00071-00020560-00020925 and I want to use that as a foundation u4yPlB_Otl0-00072-00020926-00021216 to show how we can move forward with the u4yPlB_Otl0-00073-00021217-00021441 program and a plan that is going to u4yPlB_Otl0-00074-00021442-00021741 engage the public in dialogue to build a u4yPlB_Otl0-00075-00021742-00021993 better city because if community engaged u4yPlB_Otl0-00076-00021994-00022293 is an invested community and we can u4yPlB_Otl0-00077-00022294-00022503 build a better city for ourselves and u4yPlB_Otl0-00078-00022504-00022755 that comes from leadership and I want to u4yPlB_Otl0-00079-00022756-00023030 be that leader to take the city forward u4yPlB_Otl0-00080-00023031-00023462 because as much as we go through the u4yPlB_Otl0-00081-00023463-00023718 motions here wide out something that's u4yPlB_Otl0-00082-00023719-00023961 familiar let's go something new let's go u4yPlB_Otl0-00083-00023962-00024021 to something u4yPlB_Otl0-00084-00024022-00024366 with vision Thank You country thank you u4yPlB_Otl0-00085-00024367-00024513 very much well we all know what happened u4yPlB_Otl0-00086-00024514-00024717 on September 3 2013 it's been a real u4yPlB_Otl0-00087-00024718-00024936 blight on the city of Oshawa but it u4yPlB_Otl0-00088-00024937-00025173 wouldn't really have helped with the u4yPlB_Otl0-00089-00025174-00025359 chair of the meetings actually read the u4yPlB_Otl0-00090-00025360-00025606 rule book and understand the rules I got u4yPlB_Otl0-00091-00025607-00025895 fundamental so I'll make sure I bone up u4yPlB_Otl0-00092-00025897-00026136 on all the new rules but you can't just u4yPlB_Otl0-00093-00026137-00026292 you have to be tough but fair when u4yPlB_Otl0-00094-00026293-00026463 you're in the chair there may be u4yPlB_Otl0-00095-00026464-00026610 somebody saying something that you don't u4yPlB_Otl0-00096-00026611-00026820 like but as long as they're in line you u4yPlB_Otl0-00097-00026820-00027051 let them speak that's just something u4yPlB_Otl0-00098-00027052-00027291 you've got to accept but right now it's u4yPlB_Otl0-00099-00027292-00027464 it's group thing as has been mentioned u4yPlB_Otl0-00100-00027466-00027717 before and if you if you hear something u4yPlB_Otl0-00101-00027718-00027963 you don't want u5Rh89ciKCg-00000-00000008-00000247 we have to stop putting up with any sort u5Rh89ciKCg-00001-00000248-00000314 of u5Rh89ciKCg-00002-00000315-00001023 [Music] u5Rh89ciKCg-00003-00001024-00001239 hello you guys welcome to a new video it u5Rh89ciKCg-00004-00001240-00001407 is currently what time is it i have no u5Rh89ciKCg-00005-00001408-00001447 idea u5Rh89ciKCg-00006-00001448-00001798 11 20. and we are going to vancouver u5Rh89ciKCg-00007-00001800-00001847 today u5Rh89ciKCg-00008-00001848-00001975 if you guys didn't know i just live u5Rh89ciKCg-00009-00001976-00002151 outside of the city of vancouver so u5Rh89ciKCg-00010-00002152-00002342 we're going to the city today because u5Rh89ciKCg-00011-00002343-00002479 joel wants to buy a skateboard u5Rh89ciKCg-00012-00002480-00002679 so we're going to do that it's pretty u5Rh89ciKCg-00013-00002680-00002831 far of a drive so it's going to take up u5Rh89ciKCg-00014-00002832-00002950 a good portion of the day u5Rh89ciKCg-00015-00002951-00003199 i made a at home starbucks and put it in u5Rh89ciKCg-00016-00003200-00003399 this cup that i had like previously u5Rh89ciKCg-00017-00003400-00003511 bought so it makes u5Rh89ciKCg-00018-00003511-00003622 me look and feel like i'm drinking a u5Rh89ciKCg-00019-00003623-00003815 starbucks but for u5Rh89ciKCg-00020-00003815-00004006 not seven dollars um so yeah that's u5Rh89ciKCg-00021-00004007-00004183 we're gonna do today i'm kind of scared u5Rh89ciKCg-00022-00004184-00004351 this is like gonna make me take a u5Rh89ciKCg-00023-00004352-00004454 so hopefully u5Rh89ciKCg-00024-00004455-00004759 i can i can last the ride but yeah u5Rh89ciKCg-00025-00004760-00004886 that's what we're doing right now u5Rh89ciKCg-00026-00004887-00005118 and i'll keep you guys updated what kind u5Rh89ciKCg-00027-00005119-00005318 of skateboard you'll get so if you guys u5Rh89ciKCg-00028-00005319-00006302 are curious u5Rh89ciKCg-00029-00006303-00006454 hey guys so we just got to the skate u5Rh89ciKCg-00030-00006455-00006614 shop joel is in there because of like u5Rh89ciKCg-00031-00006615-00006806 the colby rules he can only be in there u5Rh89ciKCg-00032-00006808-00006951 right now so i'm just waiting in the car u5Rh89ciKCg-00033-00006952-00007070 literally parked on the side of the u5Rh89ciKCg-00034-00007072-00007119 street u5Rh89ciKCg-00035-00007120-00007310 and i just like i don't know why i hate u5Rh89ciKCg-00036-00007311-00007455 waiting in the car alone when i'm just u5Rh89ciKCg-00037-00007456-00007567 on the side of the street like if i was u5Rh89ciKCg-00038-00007568-00007695 in the parking lot it'd be chill but u5Rh89ciKCg-00039-00007695-00007791 like there's just u5Rh89ciKCg-00040-00007792-00007974 people are walking by and then these u5Rh89ciKCg-00041-00007975-00008151 group of guys were walking by me and u5Rh89ciKCg-00042-00008152-00008303 they were just like all staring in and i u5Rh89ciKCg-00043-00008304-00008423 didn't know what to do i was just like u5Rh89ciKCg-00044-00008424-00008671 so awkward but yeah the skateboard shop u5Rh89ciKCg-00045-00008672-00008814 is literally like in the middle of u5Rh89ciKCg-00046-00008815-00008903 chinatown u5Rh89ciKCg-00047-00008904-00009039 in vancouver which is kind of cool u5Rh89ciKCg-00048-00009040-00009206 because i never come here so it's kind u5Rh89ciKCg-00049-00009207-00009255 of cool u5Rh89ciKCg-00050-00009256-00009439 but i just hate how people are just like u5Rh89ciKCg-00051-00009440-00009687 walking by and staring like can you not u5Rh89ciKCg-00052-00009688-00009751 stare u5Rh89ciKCg-00053-00009752-00010014 thank you okay update um i've been u5Rh89ciKCg-00054-00010015-00010167 waiting for a little bit now and i u5Rh89ciKCg-00055-00010168-00010287 really gotta go pee u5Rh89ciKCg-00056-00010288-00010487 but i refuse to leave the car i u5Rh89ciKCg-00057-00010488-00010606 literally just like u5Rh89ciKCg-00058-00010607-00010863 don't feel comfortable walking around u5Rh89ciKCg-00059-00010864-00010919 alone u5Rh89ciKCg-00060-00010920-00011127 sometimes and i just don't feel u5Rh89ciKCg-00061-00011128-00011287 comfortable vibes right now so i'm not u5Rh89ciKCg-00062-00011288-00011478 gonna leave the car and go pee u5Rh89ciKCg-00063-00011479-00011638 i'm gonna stay in here until joel comes u5Rh89ciKCg-00064-00011639-00011806 back oh god there's a parking meter guy u5Rh89ciKCg-00065-00011807-00011863 right there u5Rh89ciKCg-00066-00011864-00012014 oh god they're getting in a fight over u5Rh89ciKCg-00067-00012015-00012191 here they're fighting because i think he u5Rh89ciKCg-00068-00012192-00012359 ran out of time on his parking meter and u5Rh89ciKCg-00069-00012360-00012495 that guy was about to give him a ticket u5Rh89ciKCg-00070-00012496-00012583 but he's fighting u5Rh89ciKCg-00071-00012584-00012742 dude when i'm like in my car alone i'm u5Rh89ciKCg-00072-00012743-00012951 like pressing on the lock button like u5Rh89ciKCg-00073-00012952-00013007 i'm always u5Rh89ciKCg-00074-00013008-00013279 so scared that it's unlocked oh they got u5Rh89ciKCg-00075-00013280-00013366 a skateboard too u5Rh89ciKCg-00076-00013368-00013566 that's so funny anyways i think i'm just u5Rh89ciKCg-00077-00013568-00013679 gonna answer u5Rh89ciKCg-00078-00013680-00013935 do some emails i have like a lot of data u5Rh89ciKCg-00079-00013936-00014086 when i got my new phone my mom like u5Rh89ciKCg-00080-00014087-00014222 upgraded our data u5Rh89ciKCg-00081-00014223-00014407 so i have a lot of data so i can do u5Rh89ciKCg-00082-00014408-00014591 whatever on my phone which is really u5Rh89ciKCg-00083-00014591-00014766 nice so i'm going to answer some emails u5Rh89ciKCg-00084-00014768-00014927 and watch some youtube videos u5Rh89ciKCg-00085-00014928-00015222 also okay i got this email last night u5Rh89ciKCg-00086-00015223-00015399 let me read it to you yes this was an u5Rh89ciKCg-00087-00015400-00015566 email on my business email u5Rh89ciKCg-00088-00015568-00015799 hi i love your youtube videos do you u5Rh89ciKCg-00089-00015800-00015919 make and sell u5Rh89ciKCg-00090-00015919-00016191 custom videos thanks so when i first u5Rh89ciKCg-00091-00016191-00016327 read that i was like what is u5Rh89ciKCg-00092-00016328-00016494 what does he mean by custom videos and u5Rh89ciKCg-00093-00016495-00016671 then i read like the email u5Rh89ciKCg-00094-00016672-00016958 and the emails from teen bikini models u5Rh89ciKCg-00095-00016959-00017158 one two three four oh so that's freaking u5Rh89ciKCg-00096-00017159-00017207 awesome u5Rh89ciKCg-00097-00017208-00017407 i mean i get those kind of weird emails u5Rh89ciKCg-00098-00017408-00017527 in my dms u5Rh89ciKCg-00099-00017528-00017679 usually like on instagram but i've never u5Rh89ciKCg-00100-00017680-00017863 gotten one to my business email before u5Rh89ciKCg-00101-00017864-00017894 so u5Rh89ciKCg-00102-00017895-00018063 i'm gonna report that oh that guy that u5Rh89ciKCg-00103-00018064-00018207 i'm off that's so nice didn't get a u5Rh89ciKCg-00104-00018208-00018358 ticket i feel like my the time is gonna u5Rh89ciKCg-00105-00018359-00018407 expire u5Rh89ciKCg-00106-00018408-00018719 i gotta add more coins don't pay but i u5Rh89ciKCg-00107-00018720-00018830 gotta go pee u5Rh89ciKCg-00108-00018831-00018967 yeah in 10 minutes i gotta add more u5Rh89ciKCg-00109-00018968-00019143 money this guy has like a whole u5Rh89ciKCg-00110-00019144-00019335 filming rig set up which is kind of u5Rh89ciKCg-00111-00019336-00019455 interesting u5Rh89ciKCg-00112-00019456-00019622 look at him i don't know what he's u5Rh89ciKCg-00113-00019623-00019799 filming though look kind of cool u5Rh89ciKCg-00114-00019800-00019991 this is my surrounding areas right now u5Rh89ciKCg-00115-00019992-00020127 it's actually kind of nice here u5Rh89ciKCg-00116-00020128-00020263 oh there's a guy sweeping right outside u5Rh89ciKCg-00117-00020264-00020614 my window that's awkward there he is u5Rh89ciKCg-00118-00020615-00020975 finally after one hour one hour u5Rh89ciKCg-00119-00020976-00021222 later got the new board what can i say u5Rh89ciKCg-00120-00021223-00021335 and now we're later u5Rh89ciKCg-00121-00021336-00021503 well i mean they have to build it for me u5Rh89ciKCg-00122-00021504-00021630 well they're all separate pieces they u5Rh89ciKCg-00123-00021631-00021719 have to put them together i have to u5Rh89ciKCg-00124-00021720-00021814 choose every piece u5Rh89ciKCg-00125-00021815-00022094 oh really yeah look how sick that is u5Rh89ciKCg-00126-00022095-00022175 what is that u5Rh89ciKCg-00127-00022176-00022335 that guy from the movie who just kills u5Rh89ciKCg-00128-00022336-00022494 people that is so creepy u5Rh89ciKCg-00129-00022495-00022639 i got him to cut the grip tape so it u5Rh89ciKCg-00130-00022640-00022814 says deathwing that is u5Rh89ciKCg-00131-00022815-00023143 scary okay let's go home because i gotta u5Rh89ciKCg-00132-00023144-00023414 pee i've been waiting for over an hour i u5Rh89ciKCg-00133-00023415-00023575 just renewed the parking so i just paid u5Rh89ciKCg-00134-00023576-00023686 for parking again u5Rh89ciKCg-00135-00023687-00023975 you did yeah i did i got a piss and i u5Rh89ciKCg-00136-00023976-00024007 just u5Rh89ciKCg-00137-00024008-00024150 felt so uncomfortable there was a group u5Rh89ciKCg-00138-00024151-00024311 of guys that walked by me and they were u5Rh89ciKCg-00139-00024312-00024447 like and they were all pointing at me u5Rh89ciKCg-00140-00024448-00024591 and everyone started looking and it was u5Rh89ciKCg-00141-00024592-00024671 so awkward u5Rh89ciKCg-00142-00024672-00024783 i totally forgot i had to do an u5Rh89ciKCg-00143-00024784-00024950 appointment at five are you gonna cancel u5Rh89ciKCg-00144-00024951-00025030 it we gotta go u5Rh89ciKCg-00145-00025031-00025271 to garden works to get the tree oh okay u5Rh89ciKCg-00146-00025272-00025422 wait hold on okay we're gonna drive to u5Rh89ciKCg-00147-00025423-00025575 garden works we'll see you guys there u5Rh89ciKCg-00148-00025576-00025734 and i gotta go pee so they better have a u5Rh89ciKCg-00149-00025735-00027351 bathroom let's go u5Rh89ciKCg-00150-00027352-00027543 okay i'm vlogging on my phone but this u5Rh89ciKCg-00151-00027544-00027743 is what joel's thinking of getting u5Rh89ciKCg-00152-00027744-00027943 we ran into this really nice mom and she u5Rh89ciKCg-00153-00027944-00028062 was helping us out u5Rh89ciKCg-00154-00028063-00028214 and she said that she really likes this u5Rh89ciKCg-00155-00028216-00028351 she's like every time your mom sees it u5Rh89ciKCg-00156-00028352-00028479 she'll think of you u5Rh89ciKCg-00157-00028480-00028607 yeah we were looking at the orchids and u5Rh89ciKCg-00158-00028608-00028814 she said no orchids because uh u5Rh89ciKCg-00159-00028816-00029007 they're gonna die and the love between u5Rh89ciKCg-00160-00029008-00029135 me and my mom will never die u5Rh89ciKCg-00161-00029136-00029358 oh that's so cute maybe that's what i u5Rh89ciKCg-00162-00029360-00029455 should put on the car u5Rh89ciKCg-00163-00029456-00029687 oh that's so cute yeah this is this is u5Rh89ciKCg-00164-00029688-00029911 really nice u5Rh89ciKCg-00165-00029912-00030062 oh that actually looks really good you u5Rh89ciKCg-00166-00030063-00030231 only need to repot them every two years u5Rh89ciKCg-00167-00030232-00030279 probably u5Rh89ciKCg-00168-00030280-00030446 that'll last over two years i think that u5Rh89ciKCg-00169-00030447-00030631 that looks really good i i like the u5Rh89ciKCg-00170-00030632-00030862 the beigey color it's perfect too guys u5Rh89ciKCg-00171-00030863-00031023 look at how cute this pot is i've never u5Rh89ciKCg-00172-00031024-00031167 seen a pot this small i don't know what u5Rh89ciKCg-00173-00031168-00031335 you would use it for but this is so cute u5Rh89ciKCg-00174-00031336-00031639 it's only 89 oh 99 cents okay we're u5Rh89ciKCg-00175-00031639-00031743 debating you guys u5Rh89ciKCg-00176-00031744-00031983 this part this color or this color this u5Rh89ciKCg-00177-00031983-00032183 one's a bit bigger it fits in there like u5Rh89ciKCg-00178-00032183-00032399 oh it's bigger like see that oh i do see u5Rh89ciKCg-00179-00032400-00032495 the size difference u5Rh89ciKCg-00180-00032495-00032718 it looks better in that one joel that u5Rh89ciKCg-00181-00032719-00032855 one drowns it out too much u5Rh89ciKCg-00182-00032856-00033062 yeah i think that looks so cute yeah i u5Rh89ciKCg-00183-00033063-00033199 love it i love it yeah u5Rh89ciKCg-00184-00033200-00033846 perfect skeeter dane u5Rh89ciKCg-00185-00033847-00034039 i really like this one be good to people u5Rh89ciKCg-00186-00034040-00034239 for no reason these are so cute guys u5Rh89ciKCg-00187-00034240-00034415 look at this cutest pink section u5Rh89ciKCg-00188-00034416-00034631 this water bottle is literally adorable u5Rh89ciKCg-00189-00034632-00034783 look at this it's like light pink u5Rh89ciKCg-00190-00034784-00034983 so cute u5Rh89ciKCg-00191-00034984-00035159 [Music] u5Rh89ciKCg-00192-00035160-00035343 okay so i was starving and we have a u5Rh89ciKCg-00193-00035344-00035495 half hour drive home u5Rh89ciKCg-00194-00035496-00035823 so i stopped to get starbucks and i'm so u5Rh89ciKCg-00195-00035824-00035999 sad because they discontinued their bean u5Rh89ciKCg-00196-00036000-00036271 quinoa wrap so i got a roasted veggie u5Rh89ciKCg-00197-00036272-00036423 and pesto sandwich that's supposed to u5Rh89ciKCg-00198-00036424-00036551 have cheese in it but she took it out u5Rh89ciKCg-00199-00036552-00036655 for me so that's what i'm gonna be u5Rh89ciKCg-00200-00036656-00036799 eating and i also got pretzels u5Rh89ciKCg-00201-00036800-00036967 i'm so freaking hungry so i'm gonna be u5Rh89ciKCg-00202-00036968-00037127 eating this on the way home u5Rh89ciKCg-00203-00037128-00037430 so excited i'm so hungry okay you guys i u5Rh89ciKCg-00204-00037431-00037527 just got home u5Rh89ciKCg-00205-00037528-00037655 that was a long drive it feels like u5Rh89ciKCg-00206-00037656-00037823 we've been out all day it's four o'clock u5Rh89ciKCg-00207-00037824-00037862 now u5Rh89ciKCg-00208-00037863-00038087 and my dream appointment is in one hour u5Rh89ciKCg-00209-00038088-00038271 so i think i'm gonna take a tiny short u5Rh89ciKCg-00210-00038272-00038318 nap u5Rh89ciKCg-00211-00038319-00038446 and then go to the gym even though i u5Rh89ciKCg-00212-00038447-00038655 really don't feel like it we're gonna go u5Rh89ciKCg-00213-00038656-00038823 we got a little bit of a dirt spillage u5Rh89ciKCg-00214-00038824-00039055 in my car okay guys i just got to the u5Rh89ciKCg-00215-00039056-00039118 gym u5Rh89ciKCg-00216-00039119-00039271 um just waiting for julia and then i'm u5Rh89ciKCg-00217-00039272-00039455 gonna go out i honestly it's so like u5Rh89ciKCg-00218-00039456-00039623 stormy right now it just started like u5Rh89ciKCg-00219-00039624-00039774 downpouring right now julia just got u5Rh89ciKCg-00220-00039775-00039943 here just started downpouring rain i u5Rh89ciKCg-00221-00039944-00040062 literally just feel like cuddling up u5Rh89ciKCg-00222-00040063-00040183 right now like i don't really feel like u5Rh89ciKCg-00223-00040184-00040311 dreaming but we're gonna do it because u5Rh89ciKCg-00224-00040312-00040487 summer is soon so i just i gotta push u5Rh89ciKCg-00225-00040488-00040599 myself sometimes u5Rh89ciKCg-00226-00040600-00040807 and that's normal that's okay so yeah u5Rh89ciKCg-00227-00040808-00041174 i'll see you guys after my workout u5Rh89ciKCg-00228-00041175-00041367 i've been feeling so i've been feeling u5Rh89ciKCg-00229-00041368-00041551 so down u5Rh89ciKCg-00230-00041552-00042083 yeah can you tell me why can you tell me u5Rh89ciKCg-00231-00042084-00043384 why u5Rh89ciKCg-00232-00043385-00044974 [Music] u5Rh89ciKCg-00233-00044975-00045085 foreign u5Rh89ciKCg-00234-00045086-00046911 [Music] u5Rh89ciKCg-00235-00046912-00047095 hey guys michaela from the future coming u5Rh89ciKCg-00236-00047096-00047215 at you right now u5Rh89ciKCg-00237-00047216-00047558 it is may 12th therefore the giveaway u5Rh89ciKCg-00238-00047559-00047607 has u5Rh89ciKCg-00239-00047608-00047799 closed and i'm going to be picking the u5Rh89ciKCg-00240-00047800-00047967 giveaway winner right now well i'm not u5Rh89ciKCg-00241-00047968-00048118 gonna be picking it's gonna be random so u5Rh89ciKCg-00242-00048119-00048199 what i'm gonna do u5Rh89ciKCg-00243-00048200-00048351 is i have this website and it's u5Rh89ciKCg-00244-00048352-00048551 basically like a wheel spinner so i'm u5Rh89ciKCg-00245-00048552-00048711 just gonna put all of your guys's u5Rh89ciKCg-00246-00048712-00049030 instagram handles in the spinny wheel u5Rh89ciKCg-00247-00049031-00049062 thing u5Rh89ciKCg-00248-00049063-00049230 and then whoever chooses i'm gonna u5Rh89ciKCg-00249-00049231-00049390 message yeah so i'm gonna do that u5Rh89ciKCg-00250-00049391-00049662 right now i'm so excited to get this u5Rh89ciKCg-00251-00049663-00049718 shipped u5Rh89ciKCg-00252-00049719-00049951 out there was also a lot of people that u5Rh89ciKCg-00253-00049952-00050023 entered u5Rh89ciKCg-00254-00050024-00050199 that didn't show up on the comments u5Rh89ciKCg-00255-00050200-00050343 sometimes youtube does this u5Rh89ciKCg-00256-00050344-00050495 where like you guys will comment and u5Rh89ciKCg-00257-00050496-00050662 then it'll give me a notification and u5Rh89ciKCg-00258-00050663-00050799 i'll be able to see the comment u5Rh89ciKCg-00259-00050800-00050967 like in my notifications but then once i u5Rh89ciKCg-00260-00050968-00051151 click on the video and go to reply to it u5Rh89ciKCg-00261-00051152-00051375 it disappears so i don't know why u5Rh89ciKCg-00262-00051376-00051526 youtube does that i feel like it's just u5Rh89ciKCg-00263-00051527-00051670 a glitch or something but u5Rh89ciKCg-00264-00051671-00051807 if i didn't like like or reply to your u5Rh89ciKCg-00265-00051808-00051990 comment i still got your entry so don't u5Rh89ciKCg-00266-00051991-00052111 worry i'm gonna enter in u5Rh89ciKCg-00267-00052112-00052282 all of the names right now u5Rh89ciKCg-00268-00052283-00053119 [Music] u5Rh89ciKCg-00269-00053120-00053454 okay got all of your entries right u5Rh89ciKCg-00270-00053455-00053638 here and i just gotta click the middle u5Rh89ciKCg-00271-00053639-00053903 to spin it i'm so excited u5Rh89ciKCg-00272-00053904-00054103 also if you guys entered and your name u5Rh89ciKCg-00273-00054104-00054271 is not here it's probably because u5Rh89ciKCg-00274-00054272-00054494 i didn't get your comment or sometimes u5Rh89ciKCg-00275-00054495-00054687 if you comment on a lot of people's u5Rh89ciKCg-00276-00054688-00054759 videos u5Rh89ciKCg-00277-00054760-00054926 youtube will like flag your account and u5Rh89ciKCg-00278-00054927-00055103 suspend it so that it'll look like you u5Rh89ciKCg-00279-00055104-00055294 commented on your side but on my side i u5Rh89ciKCg-00280-00055295-00055407 won't get anything u5Rh89ciKCg-00281-00055408-00055663 so that is why if you guys entered and u5Rh89ciKCg-00282-00055664-00055815 you don't see your name here then that u5Rh89ciKCg-00283-00055816-00055991 has to be the reason why but yeah these u5Rh89ciKCg-00284-00055991-00056103 are all the names that i got from the u5Rh89ciKCg-00285-00056104-00056247 comments so ready u5Rh89ciKCg-00286-00056248-00056391 i just thought i'd bring joel with me u5Rh89ciKCg-00287-00056391-00056575 here because this is an exciting moment u5Rh89ciKCg-00288-00056576-00056782 okay let's show them like the screen u5Rh89ciKCg-00289-00056783-00056959 okay ready i don't know why i'm like i u5Rh89ciKCg-00290-00056960-00057119 just like this is so i just u5Rh89ciKCg-00291-00057120-00057430 just pressed i know it's just so ah okay u5Rh89ciKCg-00292-00057432-00057503 okay wait let's u5Rh89ciKCg-00293-00057504-00057694 we gotta have the sound effects on ready u5Rh89ciKCg-00294-00057695-00057879 three two u5Rh89ciKCg-00295-00057879-00059063 one go u5Rh89ciKCg-00296-00059064-00059463 oh all right here's the winner u5Rh89ciKCg-00297-00059464-00059638 okay congratulations abigail thank you u5Rh89ciKCg-00298-00059639-00059775 so much for entering and supporting me u5Rh89ciKCg-00299-00059776-00059807 and u5Rh89ciKCg-00300-00059808-00059966 thank you to everyone who entered and u5Rh89ciKCg-00301-00059967-00060126 who supports me in general thank you so u5Rh89ciKCg-00302-00060127-00060294 much if you guys didn't win this one u5Rh89ciKCg-00303-00060295-00060438 i'm gonna have like definitely more u5Rh89ciKCg-00304-00060439-00060566 giveaways in the future that are gonna u5Rh89ciKCg-00305-00060567-00060694 be international and u5Rh89ciKCg-00306-00060695-00060911 bigger and better so stay tuned for u5Rh89ciKCg-00307-00060912-00061087 those of course because i just like want u5Rh89ciKCg-00308-00061088-00061247 to give back to you guys in some way u5Rh89ciKCg-00309-00061248-00061430 just to say thank you so much for like u5Rh89ciKCg-00310-00061432-00061591 literally keeping up with my content and u5Rh89ciKCg-00311-00061591-00061830 watching my videos i appreciate it so u5Rh89ciKCg-00312-00061832-00062079 so so much so thank you to all who u5Rh89ciKCg-00313-00062079-00062182 entered and u5Rh89ciKCg-00314-00062183-00062335 for supporting me and leaving me such u5Rh89ciKCg-00315-00062336-00062519 nice comments and i also loved going u5Rh89ciKCg-00316-00062520-00062647 through reading what made you guys smile u5Rh89ciKCg-00317-00062648-00062815 today because it made me smile so u5Rh89ciKCg-00318-00062816-00062991 okay i know this like vlog is literally u5Rh89ciKCg-00319-00062991-00063182 all over the place but i just wanted to u5Rh89ciKCg-00320-00063183-00063230 end u5Rh89ciKCg-00321-00063232-00063479 the video with a little bit of a moment u5Rh89ciKCg-00322-00063479-00063542 um u5Rh89ciKCg-00323-00063544-00063742 with michaela because what better way to u5Rh89ciKCg-00324-00063744-00063911 end a video let's do a little girl talk u5Rh89ciKCg-00325-00063912-00063966 this time u5Rh89ciKCg-00326-00063967-00064206 we have to stop putting up with any sort u5Rh89ciKCg-00327-00064207-00064382 of whoever you're in a relationship u5Rh89ciKCg-00328-00064383-00064550 with or even your friends like u5Rh89ciKCg-00329-00064551-00064799 anyone in your life stop putting up with u5Rh89ciKCg-00330-00064800-00064903 their u5Rh89ciKCg-00331-00064904-00065206 okay don't brush it off as nothing u5Rh89ciKCg-00332-00065207-00065447 i find we make so many excuses for u5Rh89ciKCg-00333-00065448-00065606 people we try and defend them and make u5Rh89ciKCg-00334-00065607-00065782 so many excuses for them like oh no they u5Rh89ciKCg-00335-00065783-00065919 did this because of this and they did u5Rh89ciKCg-00336-00065920-00066031 that because of that u5Rh89ciKCg-00337-00066032-00066175 and it's like you have to stop giving u5Rh89ciKCg-00338-00066176-00066391 them chances and stop making excuses for u5Rh89ciKCg-00339-00066392-00066423 them u5Rh89ciKCg-00340-00066424-00066591 and stop putting up with their if u5Rh89ciKCg-00341-00066592-00066719 there's someone in your life that is u5Rh89ciKCg-00342-00066720-00066782 toxic u5Rh89ciKCg-00343-00066783-00066982 cut them out like cut them out right now u5Rh89ciKCg-00344-00066983-00067143 i know it might seem hard to do in the u5Rh89ciKCg-00345-00067144-00067319 moment especially if it's someone that u5Rh89ciKCg-00346-00067320-00067415 you've been u5Rh89ciKCg-00347-00067416-00067687 with or been friends with for a long u5Rh89ciKCg-00348-00067688-00067759 time u5Rh89ciKCg-00349-00067760-00068063 i know it can be so hard but it's so u5Rh89ciKCg-00350-00068064-00068279 important for you to evolve as a person u5Rh89ciKCg-00351-00068280-00068391 and for you to u5Rh89ciKCg-00352-00068392-00068663 move on and keep your positive vibes and u5Rh89ciKCg-00353-00068664-00068815 energy going you have to u5Rh89ciKCg-00354-00068816-00068999 cut out those toxic ass people in your u5Rh89ciKCg-00355-00069000-00069175 life and you can't put up with you u5Rh89ciKCg-00356-00069176-00069343 have to know that you're worth it u5Rh89ciKCg-00357-00069344-00069606 you're worth everything you are so u5Rh89ciKCg-00358-00069607-00069671 powerful u5Rh89ciKCg-00359-00069672-00069887 you're worth everything in the world and u5Rh89ciKCg-00360-00069888-00070015 you shouldn't be putting up with other u5Rh89ciKCg-00361-00070016-00070111 people's u5Rh89ciKCg-00362-00070112-00070263 if they have a negative energy if u5Rh89ciKCg-00363-00070264-00070431 they're bringing you down if they're u5Rh89ciKCg-00364-00070432-00070599 giving you negative vibes if they're u5Rh89ciKCg-00365-00070600-00070703 mistreating you u5Rh89ciKCg-00366-00070704-00070879 why are they still in your life it's so u5Rh89ciKCg-00367-00070880-00071071 important who we let into our lives u5Rh89ciKCg-00368-00071072-00071255 because that is our precious time u5Rh89ciKCg-00369-00071256-00071391 people that we spend our time with u5Rh89ciKCg-00370-00071392-00071543 that's a precious time and if you're u5Rh89ciKCg-00371-00071544-00071599 spending time u5Rh89ciKCg-00372-00071600-00071823 with someone who brings you down and who u5Rh89ciKCg-00373-00071824-00071943 manipulates you and all u5Rh89ciKCg-00374-00071944-00072143 that stuff you're giving them your u5Rh89ciKCg-00375-00072144-00072262 precious time u5Rh89ciKCg-00376-00072263-00072559 and it is doing you no benefit at all u5Rh89ciKCg-00377-00072560-00072743 it's so important to just sit down and u5Rh89ciKCg-00378-00072744-00072847 really realize u5Rh89ciKCg-00379-00072848-00073175 who is fulfilling your time who is worth u5Rh89ciKCg-00380-00073176-00073431 giving your time to because i feel like u5Rh89ciKCg-00381-00073432-00073550 we underestimate u5Rh89ciKCg-00382-00073551-00073823 how valuable our time is like think u5Rh89ciKCg-00383-00073824-00073879 about it u5Rh89ciKCg-00384-00073880-00074031 we're only here for a short amount of u5Rh89ciKCg-00385-00074032-00074206 time our time is freaking u5Rh89ciKCg-00386-00074207-00074415 valuable okay think about that every u5Rh89ciKCg-00387-00074416-00074582 single day you have to look at it u5Rh89ciKCg-00388-00074583-00074750 and you have to see the value in every u5Rh89ciKCg-00389-00074751-00074926 single day and stop u5Rh89ciKCg-00390-00074927-00075175 wasting your time on people u5Rh89ciKCg-00391-00075176-00075287 relationships u5Rh89ciKCg-00392-00075288-00075615 um friends anything that is bringing you u5Rh89ciKCg-00393-00075616-00075671 down u5Rh89ciKCg-00394-00075672-00075943 or is just not serving you any good cut u5Rh89ciKCg-00395-00075944-00076087 up that toxic boyfriend u5Rh89ciKCg-00396-00076088-00076326 cut out that toxic girlfriend cut out u5Rh89ciKCg-00397-00076327-00076431 your toxic u5Rh89ciKCg-00398-00076432-00076606 friends if they're not doing you any u5Rh89ciKCg-00399-00076607-00076743 good then they don't deserve to be in u5Rh89ciKCg-00400-00076744-00076903 your life i'm sorry to say it but you u5Rh89ciKCg-00401-00076904-00077071 have to realize how valuable and u5Rh89ciKCg-00402-00077072-00077223 precious your time is u5Rh89ciKCg-00403-00077224-00077455 how valuable you are as a human being u5Rh89ciKCg-00404-00077456-00077575 find your truth to that u5Rh89ciKCg-00405-00077576-00077791 also it's like the people that we we're u5Rh89ciKCg-00406-00077792-00077903 always surrounded by u5Rh89ciKCg-00407-00077904-00078159 is the people that are gonna be almost u5Rh89ciKCg-00408-00078160-00078326 like feeding off of our energy and we're u5Rh89ciKCg-00409-00078327-00078494 gonna be giving our energy to u5Rh89ciKCg-00410-00078495-00078743 and you have to realize how valuable u5Rh89ciKCg-00411-00078744-00078838 that is as well u5Rh89ciKCg-00412-00078839-00078967 and i feel like it's just not talked u5Rh89ciKCg-00413-00078968-00079223 about enough how our time is so valuable u5Rh89ciKCg-00414-00079224-00079391 and precious we should only be spending u5Rh89ciKCg-00415-00079392-00079455 it with u5Rh89ciKCg-00416-00079456-00079735 people and doing things that we love and u5Rh89ciKCg-00417-00079736-00079855 that is going to benefit u5Rh89ciKCg-00418-00079856-00080103 us as well yeah so this is your sign to u5Rh89ciKCg-00419-00080104-00080262 cut out anyone toxic in your life this u5Rh89ciKCg-00420-00080263-00080382 is your sign to cut them out u5Rh89ciKCg-00421-00080383-00080703 i promise you once you remove all that u5Rh89ciKCg-00422-00080704-00080879 negativity in your life you're gonna be u5Rh89ciKCg-00423-00080880-00081031 so much happier and you're gonna feel a u5Rh89ciKCg-00424-00081032-00081143 huge weight lifted off u5Rh89ciKCg-00425-00081144-00081294 your shoulders and you're literally u5Rh89ciKCg-00426-00081295-00081415 going to feel like you're floating u5Rh89ciKCg-00427-00081416-00081575 you're going to feel so good i promise u5Rh89ciKCg-00428-00081576-00081606 you u5Rh89ciKCg-00429-00081607-00081838 the initial part obviously super hard u5Rh89ciKCg-00430-00081839-00082038 but i promise you it's so worth it and u5Rh89ciKCg-00431-00082039-00082182 don't don't put up with anymore u5Rh89ciKCg-00432-00082183-00082415 like you're powerful you are worthy u5Rh89ciKCg-00433-00082416-00082615 don't put up with anyone's it's u5Rh89ciKCg-00434-00082616-00082767 time to cut out anyone toxic in your u5Rh89ciKCg-00435-00082768-00082806 life u5Rh89ciKCg-00436-00082807-00083047 okay it's just like why deal with toxic u5Rh89ciKCg-00437-00083048-00083135 people u5Rh89ciKCg-00438-00083136-00083343 when you can literally you have like the u5Rh89ciKCg-00439-00083344-00083503 choice to remove them u5Rh89ciKCg-00440-00083504-00083718 i believe in second chances i totally u5Rh89ciKCg-00441-00083719-00083950 believe somebody can change like 100 u5Rh89ciKCg-00442-00083951-00084182 i believe they can but when it keeps u5Rh89ciKCg-00443-00084183-00084406 happening and happening and happening u5Rh89ciKCg-00444-00084407-00084582 it's just like okay there's a point u5Rh89ciKCg-00445-00084583-00084750 where you gotta stop this and be like u5Rh89ciKCg-00446-00084751-00084926 okay now you're cut out of my life u5Rh89ciKCg-00447-00084927-00085126 too negative for me in the future if u5Rh89ciKCg-00448-00085127-00085318 that person genuinely changes u5Rh89ciKCg-00449-00085319-00085575 and in a couple years they are a change u5Rh89ciKCg-00450-00085576-00085718 human being and want to come back into u5Rh89ciKCg-00451-00085719-00085775 your life u5Rh89ciKCg-00452-00085776-00085982 and it's not toxic anymore then that's u5Rh89ciKCg-00453-00085983-00086191 amazing like great for them that's so u5Rh89ciKCg-00454-00086192-00086271 awesome u5Rh89ciKCg-00455-00086272-00086518 but regardless other than that why have u5Rh89ciKCg-00456-00086519-00086711 any toxic people in your life u5Rh89ciKCg-00457-00086712-00086967 why your time is so precious you gotta u5Rh89ciKCg-00458-00086968-00087087 hang out with people and surround u5Rh89ciKCg-00459-00087088-00087150 yourself with u5Rh89ciKCg-00460-00087151-00087294 people who are gonna challenge you and u5Rh89ciKCg-00461-00087295-00087559 rise you up and want you to succeed u5Rh89ciKCg-00462-00087560-00087750 want you to be happy you gotta surround u5Rh89ciKCg-00463-00087751-00087959 yourself with those kind of people u5Rh89ciKCg-00464-00087960-00088118 or else it's gonna be a lot harder for u5Rh89ciKCg-00465-00088119-00088375 you to be happy and to succeed because u5Rh89ciKCg-00466-00088376-00088503 all these people in your life that are u5Rh89ciKCg-00467-00088504-00088638 toxic are going to be literally draining u5Rh89ciKCg-00468-00088639-00088718 your energy u5Rh89ciKCg-00469-00088719-00088943 and setting negative vibes your way so u5Rh89ciKCg-00470-00088944-00089062 joel heard this quote and it was like u5Rh89ciKCg-00471-00089063-00089182 the universe keeps putting you in the u5Rh89ciKCg-00472-00089183-00089287 same situation u5Rh89ciKCg-00473-00089288-00089582 until you learn your lesson so if you u5Rh89ciKCg-00474-00089583-00089726 need to cut out those toxic people in u5Rh89ciKCg-00475-00089727-00089887 your life you're gonna keep u5Rh89ciKCg-00476-00089888-00090126 seeing toxic people until you like cut u5Rh89ciKCg-00477-00090127-00090271 them out you know what i mean by that u5Rh89ciKCg-00478-00090272-00090431 just do it i promise you you guys will u5Rh89ciKCg-00479-00090432-00090599 feel so much better once you cut u5Rh89ciKCg-00480-00090600-00090823 that negative toxicity out of your life u5Rh89ciKCg-00481-00090824-00090935 and i love you guys u5Rh89ciKCg-00482-00090936-00091175 so much okay thank you so much everybody u5Rh89ciKCg-00483-00091176-00091343 who watches my videos i appreciate you u5Rh89ciKCg-00484-00091344-00091391 so much u5Rh89ciKCg-00485-00091392-00091535 and you just listen to me around like u5Rh89ciKCg-00486-00091536-00091750 that i just want to motivate you guys u5Rh89ciKCg-00487-00091751-00091791 and u5Rh89ciKCg-00488-00091792-00092038 see everybody in this world be happy and u5Rh89ciKCg-00489-00092039-00092231 i just want everyone to thrive together u5Rh89ciKCg-00490-00092232-00092399 yeah i love you guys so much thank you u5Rh89ciKCg-00491-00092400-00092535 so much for watching this video sorry it u5Rh89ciKCg-00492-00092536-00092638 was like really random u5Rh89ciKCg-00493-00092639-00092806 but i hope you guys enjoyed it u5Rh89ciKCg-00494-00092807-00093047 regardless and i will see you guys in my u5Rh89ciKCg-00495-00093048-00093206 next video thank you guys so much for u5Rh89ciKCg-00496-00093207-00093343 watching u5Rh89ciKCg-00497-00093344-00094767 peace out eat my buddies u5Rh89ciKCg-00498-00094768-00095087 when you stepped into my life such a u5Rh89ciKCg-00499-00095088-00095255 magic feeling we u5Rh89ciKCg-00500-00095256-00095687 tore down my walls u5Rh89ciKCg-00501-00095688-00095968 i wish i could u9kTruQEI-0-00000-00000054-00000382 energy economics as a broad scientific u9kTruQEI-0-00001-00000383-00000696 subject area which includes topics u9kTruQEI-0-00002-00000697-00000983 related to supply and use of energy in u9kTruQEI-0-00003-00000984-00001418 societies due to diversity of issues and u9kTruQEI-0-00004-00001419-00001695 methods applied and shared with a number u9kTruQEI-0-00005-00001696-00002028 of academic disciplines energy economics u9kTruQEI-0-00006-00002029-00002232 does not present itself as a u9kTruQEI-0-00007-00002233-00002526 self-contained academic discipline but u9kTruQEI-0-00008-00002527-00002730 it is an applied sub discipline of u9kTruQEI-0-00009-00002731-00003114 economics from the list of main topics u9kTruQEI-0-00010-00003115-00003408 of economics some relate strongly to u9kTruQEI-0-00011-00003409-00003774 energy economics computable general u9kTruQEI-0-00012-00003775-00004410 equilibrium econometrics environmental u9kTruQEI-0-00013-00004411-00004931 economics finance industrial u9kTruQEI-0-00014-00004932-00005438 organization input-output model u9kTruQEI-0-00015-00005439-00005786 microeconomics u9kTruQEI-0-00016-00005787-00006284 macroeconomics operations research u9kTruQEI-0-00017-00006285-00006633 resource economics energy economics also u9kTruQEI-0-00018-00006634-00006923 draws heavily on results of energy u9kTruQEI-0-00019-00006925-00007304 engineering geology political sciences u9kTruQEI-0-00020-00007305-00007668 ecology etc recent focus of energy u9kTruQEI-0-00021-00007669-00008042 economics includes the following issues u9kTruQEI-0-00022-00008043-00008553 climate change and climate policy demand u9kTruQEI-0-00023-00008554-00009000 response elasticity of supply and demand u9kTruQEI-0-00024-00009001-00009474 in energy market energy and economic u9kTruQEI-0-00025-00009475-00010004 growth energy derivatives energy u9kTruQEI-0-00026-00010005-00010599 elasticity energy forecasting energy u9kTruQEI-0-00027-00010600-00010835 markets and electricity markets u9kTruQEI-0-00028-00010836-00011327 liberalisation debt re-regulation u9kTruQEI-0-00029-00011328-00011585 economics of energy infrastructure u9kTruQEI-0-00030-00011586-00012371 energy policy environmental policy risk u9kTruQEI-0-00031-00012372-00012796 analysis and security of supply u9kTruQEI-0-00032-00012797-00013052 sustainability some institutions of u9kTruQEI-0-00033-00013053-00013394 higher education universities recognize u9kTruQEI-0-00034-00013396-00013691 energy economics as a viable career u9kTruQEI-0-00035-00013691-00013916 opportunity offering this as a u9kTruQEI-0-00036-00013918-00014268 curriculum the University of Cambridge u9kTruQEI-0-00037-00014269-00014530 Massachusetts Institute of Technology u9kTruQEI-0-00038-00014531-00014913 and the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam are u9kTruQEI-0-00039-00014913-00015188 the top three research universities and u9kTruQEI-0-00040-00015190-00015432 resources for the future the top u9kTruQEI-0-00041-00015433-00015747 research institute there are numerous u9kTruQEI-0-00042-00015747-00016065 other research departments companies and u9kTruQEI-0-00043-00016066-00016350 professionals offering energy economics u9kTruQEI-0-00044-00016351-00017095 studies and consultations u9kTruQEI-0-00045-00017096-00017639 topic history u9kTruQEI-0-00046-00017640-00017966 energy related issues have been actively u9kTruQEI-0-00047-00017967-00018316 present in economic literature since the u9kTruQEI-0-00048-00018317-00018644 1973 oil crisis but have their roots u9kTruQEI-0-00049-00018645-00018936 much further back in the history as u9kTruQEI-0-00050-00018937-00019535 early as 1865 WS Jevons expressed his u9kTruQEI-0-00051-00019536-00019817 concern about the eventual depletion of u9kTruQEI-0-00052-00019818-00020066 coal resources in his book the coal u9kTruQEI-0-00053-00020067-00020428 question one of the best-known early u9kTruQEI-0-00054-00020429-00020686 attempts to work on the economics of u9kTruQEI-0-00055-00020687-00021122 exhaustible resources incl fossil fuel u9kTruQEI-0-00056-00021123-00021449 was made by H Hotelling who derived a u9kTruQEI-0-00057-00021450-00021730 price path for non-renewable resources u9kTruQEI-0-00058-00021731-00022482 known as hotelling's rule u9kTruQEI-0-00059-00022483-00023228 topic sources links and portals u9kTruQEI-0-00060-00023229-00023528 leading journals of energy economics u9kTruQEI-0-00061-00023529-00023701 include u9kTruQEI-0-00062-00023702-00024249 energy economics the energy journal u9kTruQEI-0-00063-00024250-00024586 resource and energy economics there are u9kTruQEI-0-00064-00024587-00024841 several other journals that regularly u9kTruQEI-0-00065-00024842-00025221 publish papers in energy economics u9kTruQEI-0-00066-00025222-00025699 energy the International Journal energy u9kTruQEI-0-00067-00025700-00026145 policy international journal of global u9kTruQEI-0-00068-00026147-00026708 energy issues Journal of energy markets u9kTruQEI-0-00069-00026710-00027067 utilities policy much progress in energy u9kTruQEI-0-00070-00027068-00027301 economics has been made through the u9kTruQEI-0-00071-00027302-00027514 conferences of the International u9kTruQEI-0-00072-00027514-00027844 Association for energy economics the u9kTruQEI-0-00073-00027845-00028111 model comparison exercises of the u9kTruQEI-0-00074-00028112-00028393 Stanford energy modelling forum and the u9kTruQEI-0-00075-00028394-00028582 meetings of the international energy u9kTruQEI-0-00076-00028583-00029080 workshop ideas repec has a collection of u9kTruQEI-0-00077-00029081-00029739 recent working papers u9kTruQEI-0-00078-00029740-00030445 topic bleeding energy Economist's u9kTruQEI-0-00079-00030447-00030806 the top 20 leading energy economists as u9kTruQEI-0-00080-00030807-00031387 of December 2016 are Martin L Weitzman u9kTruQEI-0-00081-00031388-00032060 let's kill Ian Robert Espen Dyke David M u9kTruQEI-0-00082-00032061-00032506 Newberry Kenneth J arrow u9kTruQEI-0-00083-00032507-00033193 Richard SJ toll Severn Borenstein u9kTruQEI-0-00084-00033194-00033701 Richard G Newell Frederic Rick van der u9kTruQEI-0-00085-00033702-00034259 plug Michael greenstone Richard Smolin u9kTruQEI-0-00086-00034260-00035005 see James Hamilton Robert Norman Stevens u9kTruQEI-0-00087-00035006-00035348 Ilhan Ozturk u9kTruQEI-0-00088-00035349-00036093 Josh cow Ramazan sorry Jeffrey a Frankel u9kTruQEI-0-00089-00036094-00036836 David Ian Stern Kenneth S Rogoff Ralph u9kTruQEI-0-00090-00036837-00037424 all wearin Michael Gerald Paulette ugur u9kTruQEI-0-00091-00037425-00038003 soit is equals equals see also usdV9CHcdwM-00000-00003515-00003886 next and our assistant director General usdV9CHcdwM-00001-00003888-00004265 topic jalasi joins us for the panel so usdV9CHcdwM-00002-00004266-00004463 bear with us for a little bit three usdV9CHcdwM-00004-00018792-00019043 okay colleagues uh thank you very much usdV9CHcdwM-00005-00019044-00019307 uh we're going to start uh let me call usdV9CHcdwM-00006-00019308-00019439 our moderato usdV9CHcdwM-00007-00019440-00019727 um Cedric Welsh votes to join the panel usdV9CHcdwM-00008-00019728-00021694 thank you very much usdV9CHcdwM-00009-00021695-00021947 hello and a very warm welcome to you usdV9CHcdwM-00010-00021948-00022307 apologize apologies for being late I'm usdV9CHcdwM-00011-00022308-00022522 Swiss and it provides me physical pain usdV9CHcdwM-00012-00022523-00022864 to come three minutes so I'm sorry for usdV9CHcdwM-00013-00022865-00023099 that we were taught in traffic from the usdV9CHcdwM-00014-00023100-00023272 African Union and even the driver hadn't usdV9CHcdwM-00015-00023273-00023633 foreseen on this kind of um gems on the usdV9CHcdwM-00016-00023634-00023927 way a warm welcome to all of you usdV9CHcdwM-00017-00023928-00024235 participants online and in the room usdV9CHcdwM-00018-00024236-00024671 and particularly also to our panelists usdV9CHcdwM-00019-00024672-00024928 here and apologies also to them for for usdV9CHcdwM-00020-00024929-00025103 being late usdV9CHcdwM-00021-00025104-00025241 um we have here to the right the usdV9CHcdwM-00022-00025242-00025475 assistant director General uh Dr tafik usdV9CHcdwM-00023-00025476-00025756 jelassie Dr urbina Who will join us usdV9CHcdwM-00024-00025757-00026461 online Mr usdV9CHcdwM-00025-00026462-00026789 hasn't arrived yet usdV9CHcdwM-00026-00026789-00027037 yes usdV9CHcdwM-00027-00027038-00027370 online oh you're online usdV9CHcdwM-00028-00027372-00027670 thank you happy to hear uh this is Dr usdV9CHcdwM-00029-00027672-00028355 ubena or Mr olugasa who's speaking usdV9CHcdwM-00030-00028356-00028739 because we can't see you see yet usdV9CHcdwM-00031-00028739-00028907 um usdV9CHcdwM-00032-00028908-00029212 yeah this is usdV9CHcdwM-00033-00029213-00029711 very nice to to have you on part two usdV9CHcdwM-00034-00029712-00030162 um and Miss Linda bundu and also uh usdV9CHcdwM-00035-00030163-00030664 my colleague from UNESCO Nairobi so dear usdV9CHcdwM-00036-00030666-00030839 participants today we will learn an usdV9CHcdwM-00037-00030839-00031096 exchange about the e-judiciary and how usdV9CHcdwM-00038-00031097-00031402 icts and I AI tools can be a solution usdV9CHcdwM-00039-00031404-00031612 for enhancing the administration of usdV9CHcdwM-00040-00031613-00031864 justice but we will also consider the usdV9CHcdwM-00041-00031866-00032111 related challenges and the changing role usdV9CHcdwM-00042-00032112-00032351 of traditional actors worldwide in the usdV9CHcdwM-00043-00032352-00032585 aim to uphold the rule of law and then usdV9CHcdwM-00044-00032586-00032927 the AI era usdV9CHcdwM-00045-00032928-00033139 um now I have the pleasure to invite Dr usdV9CHcdwM-00046-00033140-00033352 tawfiq gilasi unesco's assistant usdV9CHcdwM-00047-00033353-00033521 director general for communication usdV9CHcdwM-00048-00033522-00033785 information to deliver the opening usdV9CHcdwM-00049-00033786-00034018 remarks usdV9CHcdwM-00050-00034019-00034349 thank you Cedric good afternoon good usdV9CHcdwM-00051-00034350-00034535 evening to all of you usdV9CHcdwM-00052-00034536-00034835 since we are starting this session a bit usdV9CHcdwM-00053-00034836-00035165 late due to the matter that Sadiq usdV9CHcdwM-00054-00035166-00035440 explained I'll try to shorten my remarks usdV9CHcdwM-00055-00035441-00035807 to try to help us be back on schedule usdV9CHcdwM-00056-00035808-00035946 uh usdV9CHcdwM-00057-00035947-00036299 excellencies ladies gentlemen usdV9CHcdwM-00058-00036300-00036461 colleagues usdV9CHcdwM-00059-00036462-00036712 I'm very pleased to be with you here for usdV9CHcdwM-00060-00036713-00037055 this special workshop on artificial usdV9CHcdwM-00061-00037056-00037451 intelligence and justice usdV9CHcdwM-00062-00037452-00037762 as a supposed many of you if not all of usdV9CHcdwM-00063-00037763-00038081 you know UNESCO has been very active for usdV9CHcdwM-00064-00038082-00038405 close to 10 years now in organizing usdV9CHcdwM-00065-00038406-00038735 training programs for judicial operators usdV9CHcdwM-00066-00038736-00039023 judges public prosecutors usdV9CHcdwM-00067-00039024-00039268 the Judiciary operators usdV9CHcdwM-00068-00039269-00039457 worldwide usdV9CHcdwM-00069-00039458-00039796 this training has consisted very much on usdV9CHcdwM-00070-00039797-00040085 updating Judiciary operators usdV9CHcdwM-00071-00040086-00040474 on Regional and international standards usdV9CHcdwM-00072-00040475-00040867 in the field of freedom of expression usdV9CHcdwM-00073-00040868-00041177 safety of journalist freedom of the usdV9CHcdwM-00074-00041178-00041267 press usdV9CHcdwM-00075-00041268-00041530 and access to information usdV9CHcdwM-00076-00041531-00041890 to date we have trained over 24 usdV9CHcdwM-00077-00041891-00042185 000 judges prosecutors Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-00078-00042186-00042337 operators usdV9CHcdwM-00079-00042338-00042712 in 150 countries usdV9CHcdwM-00080-00042713-00042899 but of course the question became what's usdV9CHcdwM-00081-00042900-00043037 next usdV9CHcdwM-00082-00043038-00043321 and we know in the digital technology usdV9CHcdwM-00083-00043322-00043618 sites we know of one very promising usdV9CHcdwM-00084-00043619-00043943 technology artificial intelligence usdV9CHcdwM-00085-00043944-00044339 and we decided to look at what new usdV9CHcdwM-00086-00044340-00044621 opportunities what new applications can usdV9CHcdwM-00087-00044622-00045130 AI offer to the Judiciary operators but usdV9CHcdwM-00088-00045131-00045383 also what are the maybe the risks usdV9CHcdwM-00089-00045384-00045652 involved what are the the things to usdV9CHcdwM-00090-00045653-00045958 watch out for so recently actually last usdV9CHcdwM-00091-00045959-00046180 spring more space specifically last usdV9CHcdwM-00092-00046181-00046529 March we launched a massive open online usdV9CHcdwM-00093-00046530-00047008 course on AI and the rule of law usdV9CHcdwM-00094-00047009-00047249 we believe this is a quite unique usdV9CHcdwM-00095-00047250-00047417 offering usdV9CHcdwM-00096-00047418-00047651 Saturday is the first of its kind in the usdV9CHcdwM-00097-00047652-00047890 U.N system but maybe also from usdV9CHcdwM-00098-00047891-00048143 International organizations usdV9CHcdwM-00099-00048144-00048395 we were delighted that in this first usdV9CHcdwM-00100-00048396-00048671 offering of the online course on AI and usdV9CHcdwM-00101-00048672-00048799 the rule of law usdV9CHcdwM-00102-00048800-00049385 we had over 4 500 judges prosecutors and usdV9CHcdwM-00103-00049386-00049727 Judiciary operators enrolled in this usdV9CHcdwM-00104-00049728-00050135 course and following it throughout usdV9CHcdwM-00105-00050136-00050302 personally I received some email usdV9CHcdwM-00106-00050303-00050633 messages from few people who after usdV9CHcdwM-00107-00050634-00051023 48 or 36 hours we said we completed the usdV9CHcdwM-00108-00051024-00051208 course I was very impressed because usdV9CHcdwM-00109-00051209-00051430 these people it meant that these people usdV9CHcdwM-00110-00051432-00051701 really took the course almost on a usdV9CHcdwM-00111-00051702-00051970 full-time basis not just one hour from usdV9CHcdwM-00112-00051971-00052313 time to time or a weekend per week to usdV9CHcdwM-00113-00052314-00052492 complete the whole course in a matter of usdV9CHcdwM-00114-00052494-00052654 three days usdV9CHcdwM-00115-00052655-00052888 uh so this is very important I believe usdV9CHcdwM-00116-00052889-00053291 this is uh I I as we know can help uh usdV9CHcdwM-00117-00053291-00053638 streamline can help redesign can help usdV9CHcdwM-00118-00053639-00053932 simplify some of the processes uh usdV9CHcdwM-00119-00053933-00054119 involved in the uh in the judicial usdV9CHcdwM-00120-00054120-00054376 Administration but more than that if you usdV9CHcdwM-00121-00054377-00054629 look at a subset of AI which is usdV9CHcdwM-00122-00054629-00054829 case-based reasoning usdV9CHcdwM-00123-00054829-00055253 certainly this uh technology can also usdV9CHcdwM-00124-00055254-00055607 help judges at public prosecutors learn usdV9CHcdwM-00125-00055608-00055954 from past cases when they are processing usdV9CHcdwM-00126-00055955-00056315 a case at hand so I think this is very usdV9CHcdwM-00127-00056316-00056507 powerful we saw applications in a number usdV9CHcdwM-00128-00056508-00056849 of countries UK is one of them South usdV9CHcdwM-00129-00056850-00057088 Africa is another one just to mention a usdV9CHcdwM-00130-00057089-00057250 couple an African country and the usdV9CHcdwM-00131-00057251-00057515 European country where we saw promising usdV9CHcdwM-00132-00057516-00057761 applications but for us usdV9CHcdwM-00133-00057762-00057994 we have to be loyal to what UNESCO has usdV9CHcdwM-00134-00057995-00058211 been advocating for a number of years usdV9CHcdwM-00135-00058212-00058607 and you heard at this igf event the Rome usdV9CHcdwM-00136-00058608-00058961 X framework of UNESCO that is when we usdV9CHcdwM-00137-00058962-00059194 use technology when we develop usdV9CHcdwM-00138-00059195-00059591 and deploy and design a technology-based usdV9CHcdwM-00139-00059591-00059842 systems and applications we anchor that usdV9CHcdwM-00140-00059844-00060179 in Rome again R for human rights-based usdV9CHcdwM-00141-00060179-00060269 approach usdV9CHcdwM-00142-00060270-00060700 or standing for open to all a accessible usdV9CHcdwM-00143-00060701-00060961 by all and M following the usdV9CHcdwM-00144-00060962-00061192 multi-stakeholder approach so this usdV9CHcdwM-00145-00061194-00061511 applies to AI systems as well we have to usdV9CHcdwM-00146-00061512-00061750 fully respect the human rights we have usdV9CHcdwM-00147-00061751-00062038 to respect human dignity we have to be usdV9CHcdwM-00148-00062039-00062297 sensitive to gender equality so the usdV9CHcdwM-00149-00062298-00062507 number of issues that we believe are usdV9CHcdwM-00150-00062508-00062821 Central to this piece of work especially usdV9CHcdwM-00151-00062822-00063263 since last year when UNESCO came up and usdV9CHcdwM-00152-00063264-00063659 had approved by 193 member states the usdV9CHcdwM-00153-00063660-00063911 UNESCO recommendation on the ethics of usdV9CHcdwM-00154-00063912-00064253 artificial intelligence this is the usdV9CHcdwM-00155-00064254-00064450 first normative instrument of its kind usdV9CHcdwM-00156-00064451-00064769 in the world an in-depth look at the usdV9CHcdwM-00157-00064770-00065092 ethical side of AI and we are delighted usdV9CHcdwM-00158-00065094-00065519 when it was unanimously approved by 193 usdV9CHcdwM-00159-00065520-00065788 countries covering the five continents usdV9CHcdwM-00160-00065789-00065993 so I think this is a major developed usdV9CHcdwM-00161-00065994-00066203 development that you have to take into usdV9CHcdwM-00162-00066204-00066544 account why why because we know about AI usdV9CHcdwM-00163-00066545-00066763 applications example in usdV9CHcdwM-00164-00066764-00067085 vessel recognition you know is that usdV9CHcdwM-00165-00067086-00067300 something good that you can allow that usdV9CHcdwM-00166-00067301-00067505 you know in some countries for some usdV9CHcdwM-00167-00067506-00067709 maybe systems including the police usdV9CHcdwM-00168-00067710-00067949 whatever we can use the AI to recognize usdV9CHcdwM-00169-00067950-00068225 people's faces and to use that data for usdV9CHcdwM-00170-00068226-00068567 digital surveillance so again I'm just usdV9CHcdwM-00171-00068568-00068806 flagging some of the issues that AI usdV9CHcdwM-00172-00068807-00069047 brought to the fore that did not exist usdV9CHcdwM-00173-00069048-00069371 in the in past with past Technologies usdV9CHcdwM-00174-00069372-00069706 uh we have been working with partners of usdV9CHcdwM-00175-00069707-00069781 course usdV9CHcdwM-00176-00069782-00070019 the future society which is a usdV9CHcdwM-00177-00070020-00070271 co-organizer of this Workshop session usdV9CHcdwM-00178-00070272-00070606 today here and we acknowledge and we are usdV9CHcdwM-00179-00070607-00070829 grateful for the collaboration with the usdV9CHcdwM-00180-00070830-00071099 future Society other key partners with usdV9CHcdwM-00181-00071100-00071291 whom we collaborated the African usdV9CHcdwM-00182-00071292-00071519 Commission on human rights usdV9CHcdwM-00183-00071520-00071867 and on people's rights uh and as a Civic usdV9CHcdwM-00184-00071868-00072041 said you just came back from a meeting usdV9CHcdwM-00185-00072042-00072269 at the African Union where we have other usdV9CHcdwM-00186-00072270-00072641 ongoing collaboration projects but also usdV9CHcdwM-00187-00072642-00072821 we have been working with the regional usdV9CHcdwM-00188-00072822-00073138 courts including in Africa namely the usdV9CHcdwM-00189-00073139-00073361 African court on a human and people's usdV9CHcdwM-00190-00073362-00073697 rights but also the ecowas court of usdV9CHcdwM-00191-00073698-00073973 justice that is the court of justice of usdV9CHcdwM-00192-00073974-00074243 the economic community of West African usdV9CHcdwM-00193-00074244-00074525 States and finally another key partner usdV9CHcdwM-00194-00074526-00074879 the East African court of justice among usdV9CHcdwM-00195-00074880-00075113 others so this is not just UNESCO usdV9CHcdwM-00196-00075114-00075353 necessarily by itself this is UNESCO usdV9CHcdwM-00197-00075354-00075575 collaborating with other stakeholders usdV9CHcdwM-00198-00075576-00075850 with other partners who bring in their usdV9CHcdwM-00199-00075851-00076121 thematic knowledge fill the expertise usdV9CHcdwM-00200-00076122-00076355 but also sometimes the regional context usdV9CHcdwM-00201-00076356-00076715 in which we want to apply Ai and the usdV9CHcdwM-00202-00076716-00076829 rule of law usdV9CHcdwM-00203-00076830-00077188 let me uh let me stop here because we usdV9CHcdwM-00204-00077189-00077543 have some high level speakers panelists usdV9CHcdwM-00205-00077544-00077837 to share with us their insights their usdV9CHcdwM-00206-00077838-00078250 experiences and best practices uh I I'm usdV9CHcdwM-00207-00078251-00078538 I'm sure that you know at the end of usdV9CHcdwM-00208-00078539-00078731 this session hopefully we'll have new usdV9CHcdwM-00209-00078732-00079121 ideas that could help us pave the road usdV9CHcdwM-00210-00079122-00079475 going forward thank you all physically usdV9CHcdwM-00211-00079476-00079709 and also online being part of this usdV9CHcdwM-00212-00079710-00080021 session usdV9CHcdwM-00213-00080022-00080285 thank you so much adg for this overview usdV9CHcdwM-00214-00080286-00080597 of the current work and Global work usdV9CHcdwM-00215-00080598-00080812 which is being undertaken and as you usdV9CHcdwM-00216-00080813-00081047 highlighted this is very much about usdV9CHcdwM-00217-00081048-00081317 Regional activities on AI in the justice usdV9CHcdwM-00218-00081318-00081497 system and all of the five interventions usdV9CHcdwM-00219-00081498-00081737 we will hear actually Four will be usdV9CHcdwM-00220-00081738-00081965 really coming from Africa only one from usdV9CHcdwM-00221-00081966-00082217 India very good example and and firm usdV9CHcdwM-00222-00082218-00082625 proposition too now we are having the usdV9CHcdwM-00223-00082626-00082876 difficulties of bringing a judge Dr usdV9CHcdwM-00224-00082877-00083255 urbina online and so we will continue he usdV9CHcdwM-00225-00083256-00083441 is there where we are we are working on usdV9CHcdwM-00226-00083442-00083837 it and I will therefore delay this usdV9CHcdwM-00227-00083838-00084173 presentation and we will give the floor usdV9CHcdwM-00228-00084174-00084659 now to Mr ope ulugasa who is the CEO of usdV9CHcdwM-00229-00084660-00084862 law Papillon and he's working on usdV9CHcdwM-00230-00084863-00085055 strengthening the justice system through usdV9CHcdwM-00231-00085056-00085343 introduction of innovative solutions usdV9CHcdwM-00232-00085344-00085582 to address the obstacles faced by the usdV9CHcdwM-00233-00085583-00085709 Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-00234-00085710-00085906 and he will as I just mentioned before usdV9CHcdwM-00235-00085907-00086093 have a particular look at AI in the usdV9CHcdwM-00236-00086094-00086411 African Judiciary and look also at usdV9CHcdwM-00237-00086412-00086632 context related challenges and how new usdV9CHcdwM-00238-00086633-00086837 tools can be used to support Justice in usdV9CHcdwM-00239-00086838-00087144 Africa while upholding the rule of law usdV9CHcdwM-00240-00087145-00087547 so thank you for joining us online and usdV9CHcdwM-00241-00087548-00087767 you have the flow usdV9CHcdwM-00242-00087768-00087941 five minutes please usdV9CHcdwM-00243-00087942-00088229 thank you very much okay so um connect usdV9CHcdwM-00244-00088230-00088975 me to share my screen usdV9CHcdwM-00245-00088976-00089285 we hear you very well but we see you in usdV9CHcdwM-00246-00089286-00089723 person and not just no presentation yet usdV9CHcdwM-00247-00089724-00089999 um so I'm not allowed to share my screen usdV9CHcdwM-00248-00090000-00090323 yet um of course has disabled that usdV9CHcdwM-00249-00090324-00090473 I don't know if the host come along to usdV9CHcdwM-00250-00090474-00090617 share my screen so I can just speak to usdV9CHcdwM-00251-00090618-00090875 it all right usdV9CHcdwM-00252-00090876-00091288 you can are you okay usdV9CHcdwM-00253-00091289-00092038 great so usdV9CHcdwM-00254-00092039-00092255 okay I guess you can see my screen now usdV9CHcdwM-00255-00092256-00092585 absolutely usdV9CHcdwM-00256-00092586-00092735 thank you usdV9CHcdwM-00257-00092736-00092909 um so good afternoon usdV9CHcdwM-00258-00092910-00093023 um usdV9CHcdwM-00259-00093024-00093226 thank you so much for um this invitation usdV9CHcdwM-00260-00093227-00093418 I'll just speak very briefly to the need usdV9CHcdwM-00261-00093419-00093556 for technology and artificial usdV9CHcdwM-00262-00093557-00093725 intelligence in African Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-00263-00093726-00094021 lessons from Nigeria my name is usdV9CHcdwM-00264-00094022-00094385 I'm from law Pavilion and our mission usdV9CHcdwM-00265-00094386-00094618 it's simple is equipping the justice usdV9CHcdwM-00266-00094619-00094888 system to enable people and businesses usdV9CHcdwM-00267-00094889-00095135 achieve their potentials usdV9CHcdwM-00268-00095136-00095381 um usdV9CHcdwM-00269-00095382-00095675 so what's the problem statement in a usdV9CHcdwM-00270-00095676-00095873 general Judiciary I'll just look at this usdV9CHcdwM-00271-00095874-00096059 data here to make it a little bit usdV9CHcdwM-00272-00096060-00096275 graphic this for a particular Magistrate usdV9CHcdwM-00273-00096276-00096582 Court between January 2019 and may 2020 usdV9CHcdwM-00274-00096583-00096893 I can see there the statistics for usdV9CHcdwM-00275-00096894-00097079 concluded matters usdV9CHcdwM-00276-00097080-00097373 for civil matters 2019 usdV9CHcdwM-00277-00097374-00097865 pending cases 452 in Criminal 8072 usdV9CHcdwM-00278-00097866-00098291 were concluded within that period 1194 usdV9CHcdwM-00279-00098292-00098659 appending cases during that period and usdV9CHcdwM-00280-00098660-00099029 4295 new cases on criminal matters were usdV9CHcdwM-00281-00099030-00099262 fired during that period now you will usdV9CHcdwM-00282-00099263-00099485 agree with me and this was um has usdV9CHcdwM-00283-00099486-00099706 shipped to some of their technical usdV9CHcdwM-00284-00099707-00099905 interventions that this is a troubling usdV9CHcdwM-00285-00099906-00100162 potential disaster waiting to happen usdV9CHcdwM-00286-00100163-00100456 because the rate at which new matters usdV9CHcdwM-00287-00100457-00100637 have been found called the court system usdV9CHcdwM-00288-00100638-00100894 in Nigeria and I believe that's also the usdV9CHcdwM-00289-00100895-00101123 same thing across Africa the coastal usdV9CHcdwM-00290-00101124-00101423 cannot um keep up with that peace and no usdV9CHcdwM-00291-00101424-00101512 wonder usdV9CHcdwM-00292-00101513-00101699 um statistics research from here usdV9CHcdwM-00293-00101700-00101956 actually says that that's six percent of usdV9CHcdwM-00294-00101957-00102185 these people actually just resort to usdV9CHcdwM-00295-00102186-00102394 self-action and so next and that's usdV9CHcdwM-00296-00102395-00102592 actually the root cause for some of the usdV9CHcdwM-00297-00102593-00102856 symptoms we're seeing in our own um in usdV9CHcdwM-00298-00102857-00103078 our own climate here in security and usdV9CHcdwM-00299-00103079-00103313 quite a number of number of search now usdV9CHcdwM-00300-00103314-00103558 so what are the solutions that we we usdV9CHcdwM-00301-00103559-00103853 have preferred as um Pavilion usdV9CHcdwM-00302-00103854-00104044 now we've concluded that human usdV9CHcdwM-00303-00104045-00104297 intelligence alone is no longer enough usdV9CHcdwM-00304-00104298-00104668 so we needed to integrate technology we usdV9CHcdwM-00305-00104669-00104903 need to integrate astral intelligence to usdV9CHcdwM-00306-00104904-00105089 help enhance human intelligence usdV9CHcdwM-00307-00105090-00105304 Injustice delivery in legal practice in usdV9CHcdwM-00308-00105305-00105551 Nigeria now what are the interactions we usdV9CHcdwM-00309-00105552-00105899 have introduced essentially across two usdV9CHcdwM-00310-00105900-00106001 broad usdV9CHcdwM-00311-00106002-00106210 um broad areas one the first one is usdV9CHcdwM-00312-00106211-00106408 e-library that's electric library and usdV9CHcdwM-00313-00106409-00106649 electronic legal research now for these usdV9CHcdwM-00314-00106650-00106889 two what we did we introduced electronic usdV9CHcdwM-00315-00106890-00107021 law reports usdV9CHcdwM-00316-00107022-00107302 into the system so that judges instead usdV9CHcdwM-00317-00107303-00107495 of spending 50 percent of their time usdV9CHcdwM-00318-00107496-00107752 looking for authorities using I am hard usdV9CHcdwM-00319-00107753-00107981 man hardcover I'm hard books now we usdV9CHcdwM-00320-00107982-00108131 digitize that usdV9CHcdwM-00321-00108132-00108328 um then we annotated the loss of the usdV9CHcdwM-00322-00108329-00108497 Federation so it becomes what I said usdV9CHcdwM-00323-00108498-00108736 when I say annotated it means each usdV9CHcdwM-00324-00108738-00108958 section of the law is explained with usdV9CHcdwM-00325-00108959-00109157 cases so judicial usdV9CHcdwM-00326-00109158-00109307 um authorities that have that have usdV9CHcdwM-00327-00109308-00109528 interpreted those laws we actually put usdV9CHcdwM-00328-00109529-00109763 them together now this makes it easier usdV9CHcdwM-00329-00109764-00109943 for judges to quickly look at the usdV9CHcdwM-00330-00109944-00110128 promotions of the law and then quickly usdV9CHcdwM-00331-00110129-00110321 identify precedence on that to inter usdV9CHcdwM-00332-00110322-00110513 people interpret proportions of the law usdV9CHcdwM-00333-00110514-00110686 then we have an after this feedback usdV9CHcdwM-00334-00110688-00110897 system for judges now what this does is usdV9CHcdwM-00335-00110898-00111071 to help them enhance the quality of usdV9CHcdwM-00336-00111072-00111371 their judgments so if a court or a judge usdV9CHcdwM-00337-00111372-00111604 me lower court diverse judgment yes it usdV9CHcdwM-00338-00111605-00111790 goes to a higher quote on appeal now usdV9CHcdwM-00339-00111791-00111952 when the appeal court appearance Court usdV9CHcdwM-00340-00111953-00112223 makes it them get a decision on that the usdV9CHcdwM-00341-00112224-00112439 lower court judge is notified that this usdV9CHcdwM-00342-00112440-00112636 is the position of the Apple economy so usdV9CHcdwM-00343-00112638-00112865 that subsequently the lower court judge usdV9CHcdwM-00344-00112866-00113189 can then correct um yourself or also let usdV9CHcdwM-00345-00113190-00113363 me also introduce legal analytics one of usdV9CHcdwM-00346-00113364-00113590 the challenges we've had here in our usdV9CHcdwM-00347-00113591-00113789 clients is conflicting judgments you usdV9CHcdwM-00348-00113790-00113981 know quite a number of sorts now we usdV9CHcdwM-00349-00113982-00114173 actually compile this together so on usdV9CHcdwM-00350-00114174-00114395 each principle of law we will show the usdV9CHcdwM-00351-00114396-00114575 conflicts we show the exceptions and usdV9CHcdwM-00352-00114576-00114821 then we show the history of those um of usdV9CHcdwM-00353-00114822-00115043 those of that Authority in in the Jews usdV9CHcdwM-00354-00115044-00115313 in our case I'm sorry in uh Jewish usdV9CHcdwM-00355-00115314-00115547 students so it becomes easier for judges usdV9CHcdwM-00356-00115548-00115733 to take the um to take decisions usdV9CHcdwM-00357-00115733-00115990 promptly of course with quality at the usdV9CHcdwM-00358-00115991-00116152 back of their minds then we introduce usdV9CHcdwM-00359-00116153-00116357 electronic textbooks a lot of textbooks usdV9CHcdwM-00360-00116358-00116566 and journals still on the platform and usdV9CHcdwM-00361-00116567-00116825 then more recently we then introduce usdV9CHcdwM-00362-00116826-00117016 astral intelligence assisted document usdV9CHcdwM-00363-00117017-00117227 review this is a form of a Judicial usdV9CHcdwM-00364-00117228-00117460 decision support system so when lawyers usdV9CHcdwM-00365-00117461-00117808 file matters in court the um usually usdV9CHcdwM-00366-00117809-00118066 Nigeria they come from they have written usdV9CHcdwM-00367-00118067-00118265 addresses so instead of the judge having usdV9CHcdwM-00368-00118266-00118463 to first read the written address then usdV9CHcdwM-00369-00118464-00118678 try to find out what it used to be um to usdV9CHcdwM-00370-00118679-00118871 be formulated on it the system usdV9CHcdwM-00371-00118872-00119152 automatically takes in the whole written usdV9CHcdwM-00372-00119153-00119386 address and then searches through the usdV9CHcdwM-00373-00119388-00119602 Precedence to bring out related cases usdV9CHcdwM-00374-00119603-00119813 that have dealt with such matters before usdV9CHcdwM-00375-00119814-00120058 and then extracts all the legal usdV9CHcdwM-00376-00120059-00120334 authorities within that and that written usdV9CHcdwM-00377-00120335-00120533 address so that the judge can easily usdV9CHcdwM-00378-00120533-00120736 have a summary of it and then look at usdV9CHcdwM-00379-00120738-00120904 the authorities the references and then usdV9CHcdwM-00380-00120905-00121115 look at cases that are related and it usdV9CHcdwM-00381-00121116-00121331 becomes easier for the judges to take usdV9CHcdwM-00382-00121332-00121528 their decision and then Advocate on usdV9CHcdwM-00383-00121529-00121751 those matters so that's the first um the usdV9CHcdwM-00384-00121752-00121925 first iteration the second blood usdV9CHcdwM-00385-00121926-00122140 limitation is um we call it e-registry usdV9CHcdwM-00386-00122141-00122357 so essentially it's about electronic usdV9CHcdwM-00387-00122358-00122554 filing of Court processes instead of usdV9CHcdwM-00388-00122555-00122783 having to do everything manually but the usdV9CHcdwM-00389-00122783-00123058 intermission we put on this is actually usdV9CHcdwM-00390-00123059-00123377 with timestamps so it helps track timing usdV9CHcdwM-00391-00123378-00123515 how fast usdV9CHcdwM-00392-00123516-00123652 um the officials the code officials usdV9CHcdwM-00393-00123653-00123845 quickly respond to matters that are usdV9CHcdwM-00394-00123846-00124073 filed online then electronic payments usdV9CHcdwM-00395-00124074-00124258 electronic service of Court processes usdV9CHcdwM-00396-00124259-00124457 science support plus was a major usdV9CHcdwM-00397-00124458-00124678 challenge also hearing a climb and then usdV9CHcdwM-00398-00124679-00124840 this solution is helping to serve that usdV9CHcdwM-00399-00124841-00125002 electronically and then the proof of usdV9CHcdwM-00400-00125003-00125225 service is easily um gotten but at the usdV9CHcdwM-00401-00125226-00125428 court then notification of schedule usdV9CHcdwM-00402-00125429-00125645 electronically as well and I've also usdV9CHcdwM-00403-00125646-00125795 introduced case management system that usdV9CHcdwM-00404-00125796-00126065 helps manage the workflow of matters in usdV9CHcdwM-00405-00126066-00126275 court it calculates the average age of usdV9CHcdwM-00406-00126276-00126545 cases in court ordinarily it takes a usdV9CHcdwM-00407-00126546-00126689 number of years about five years for usdV9CHcdwM-00408-00126690-00126910 high court and then well on the average usdV9CHcdwM-00409-00126911-00127121 about 20 30 years to prosecutive matter usdV9CHcdwM-00410-00127122-00127307 from high court to Supreme Court in usdV9CHcdwM-00411-00127308-00127534 Nigeria and then so in with the payment usdV9CHcdwM-00412-00127535-00127793 system we're keeping a tab on the usdV9CHcdwM-00413-00127794-00128015 average age of kids so that judges can usdV9CHcdwM-00414-00128016-00128219 quickly dispose the cases before them usdV9CHcdwM-00415-00128220-00128410 and then what are the visible outcomes usdV9CHcdwM-00416-00128411-00128740 on um in this over a period of 10 years usdV9CHcdwM-00417-00128741-00128933 now I'll measure this in terms of the usdV9CHcdwM-00418-00128933-00129095 growth in number of cases disposed at usdV9CHcdwM-00419-00129096-00129352 the court of appeal between 2009 and usdV9CHcdwM-00420-00129353-00129677 2019. and this is the and this is a usdV9CHcdwM-00421-00129678-00130043 graph from 2009 up to 2019 and with this usdV9CHcdwM-00422-00130044-00130204 with when we introduced technology to usdV9CHcdwM-00423-00130205-00130463 them in 2012 as I introduced usdV9CHcdwM-00424-00130464-00130786 um today in 2012. now in the last couple usdV9CHcdwM-00425-00130788-00131045 of years there's been 200 percent usdV9CHcdwM-00426-00131046-00131477 increase in the have in the annual cases usdV9CHcdwM-00427-00131478-00131645 um Germans given by the court of appear usdV9CHcdwM-00428-00131646-00131789 these three times usdV9CHcdwM-00429-00131790-00131975 um Improvement and we think that with usdV9CHcdwM-00430-00131976-00132227 better appreciation with better usdV9CHcdwM-00431-00132228-00132545 um adoption of Technology the justice usdV9CHcdwM-00432-00132546-00132701 system Nigeria can even do more the same usdV9CHcdwM-00433-00132702-00132983 thing with um within Africa now having usdV9CHcdwM-00434-00132984-00133283 looked at this we also then move on to usdV9CHcdwM-00435-00133284-00133619 to consider um um other AI Solutions now usdV9CHcdwM-00436-00133620-00133787 so we just recently introduced something usdV9CHcdwM-00437-00133788-00134027 we call it a new description in civil usdV9CHcdwM-00438-00134028-00134164 and criminal system in Nigeria and I'll usdV9CHcdwM-00439-00134165-00134273 just play usdV9CHcdwM-00440-00134274-00134483 um briefly uh one and a half minutes usdV9CHcdwM-00441-00134484-00134740 video to demonstrate what we have done usdV9CHcdwM-00442-00134741-00134933 and this is essentially really usdV9CHcdwM-00443-00134934-00135197 rethinking the the um the admission of usdV9CHcdwM-00444-00135198-00135377 Justice in Nigeria using actual usdV9CHcdwM-00445-00135378-00135551 intelligence and blockchain in such that usdV9CHcdwM-00446-00135552-00135797 we're bringing Justice really closer to usdV9CHcdwM-00447-00135798-00136007 the people especially to solve the usdV9CHcdwM-00448-00136008-00136283 challenge of insecurity in Nigeria and usdV9CHcdwM-00449-00136284-00136564 then reforming the criminal justice usdV9CHcdwM-00450-00136565-00136763 system in terms of um evidence usdV9CHcdwM-00451-00136764-00136966 crowdsourcing of evidence usdV9CHcdwM-00452-00136967-00137195 um profiling of suspects and I was just usdV9CHcdwM-00453-00137196-00137435 let me play the video in let's say two usdV9CHcdwM-00454-00137436-00137627 one and a half minutes usdV9CHcdwM-00455-00137628-00137914 introducing just ease your social legal usdV9CHcdwM-00456-00137915-00138119 app for Community security and easy usdV9CHcdwM-00457-00138120-00138331 access to usdV9CHcdwM-00458-00138332-00138611 the just ease app empowers you to know usdV9CHcdwM-00459-00138612-00138839 your rights and duties answers okay usdV9CHcdwM-00460-00138840-00139049 speak up whenever your rights are usdV9CHcdwM-00461-00139050-00139163 violated usdV9CHcdwM-00462-00139164-00139290 foreign usdV9CHcdwM-00463-00139291-00139535 security watch feature provides you usdV9CHcdwM-00464-00139536-00139757 prompt notification on reported crimes usdV9CHcdwM-00465-00139758-00140016 in your area or community in seconds usdV9CHcdwM-00466-00140017-00140261 empowering everyone to speak up and usdV9CHcdwM-00467-00140262-00140483 Report every crime whether you are the usdV9CHcdwM-00468-00140484-00140651 victim or not usdV9CHcdwM-00469-00140652-00140909 the panic button lets you signal for usdV9CHcdwM-00470-00140910-00141131 help when you are in trouble this usdV9CHcdwM-00471-00141132-00141328 immediately shares your GPS coordinates usdV9CHcdwM-00472-00141329-00141557 with your pre-selected contacts and usdV9CHcdwM-00473-00141558-00141809 alerts police around you to come to your usdV9CHcdwM-00474-00141810-00142013 rescue you can also access a usdV9CHcdwM-00475-00142014-00142199 comprehensive directory of lawyers or usdV9CHcdwM-00476-00142200-00142445 police stations near you usdV9CHcdwM-00477-00142446-00142781 oh one more thing the real Ingenuity of usdV9CHcdwM-00478-00142782-00143099 just ease is its dashboards that rely on usdV9CHcdwM-00479-00143100-00143351 the power of GPS artificial intelligence usdV9CHcdwM-00480-00143352-00143627 and blockchain Technologies to form a usdV9CHcdwM-00481-00143628-00143831 reliable and tamper-proof digital usdV9CHcdwM-00482-00143832-00144028 evidence Bank available for usdV9CHcdwM-00483-00144029-00144323 investigators lawyers and judges in a usdV9CHcdwM-00484-00144324-00144545 format that is admissible before the usdV9CHcdwM-00485-00144546-00144754 court its crowdsourcing model of usdV9CHcdwM-00486-00144755-00144940 evidence and crime information gathering usdV9CHcdwM-00487-00144941-00145235 within any location in Nigeria and the usdV9CHcdwM-00488-00145236-00145366 artificial intelligence facial usdV9CHcdwM-00489-00145367-00145552 recognition feature embedded in the usdV9CHcdwM-00490-00145553-00145763 dashboards enable the profiling of any usdV9CHcdwM-00491-00145764-00145985 criminal suspect by running it through a usdV9CHcdwM-00492-00145986-00146201 crowdsourced evidence Bank stored in the usdV9CHcdwM-00493-00146202-00146452 blockchain much more the dashboards usdV9CHcdwM-00494-00146453-00146651 measure and calculate the rule of law usdV9CHcdwM-00495-00146652-00147235 index for every state in Nigeria usdV9CHcdwM-00496-00147236-00147533 now your safety is in your hands usdV9CHcdwM-00497-00147534-00147814 download just East today on Google Play usdV9CHcdwM-00498-00147815-00148114 Store just ease disrupting the civil and usdV9CHcdwM-00499-00148115-00148361 criminal justice system in Africa usdV9CHcdwM-00500-00148362-00148564 now these are and this is what we have usdV9CHcdwM-00501-00148565-00148823 just done recently and we're producing usdV9CHcdwM-00502-00148824-00149063 astral intelligence to integrate crowd usdV9CHcdwM-00503-00149064-00149357 sourcing of um crime information that's usdV9CHcdwM-00504-00149358-00149477 admissible usdV9CHcdwM-00505-00149478-00149657 um in the courts in Nigeria so it usdV9CHcdwM-00506-00149658-00149873 becomes easier it's a disruption to the usdV9CHcdwM-00507-00149874-00150089 criminal justice system and even civil usdV9CHcdwM-00508-00150090-00150328 just system in Nigeria because part of usdV9CHcdwM-00509-00150329-00150557 what we are doing right now is such that usdV9CHcdwM-00510-00150558-00150719 um the common man on the streets can usdV9CHcdwM-00511-00150720-00151019 easily file a matter via this app and usdV9CHcdwM-00512-00151020-00151187 then digital course can easily develop usdV9CHcdwM-00513-00151188-00151427 so it's a form of online disposition usdV9CHcdwM-00514-00151428-00151654 um system as well because the common man usdV9CHcdwM-00515-00151655-00151864 on the streets need to be saved Justice usdV9CHcdwM-00516-00151865-00152039 and these are the ways we've been doing usdV9CHcdwM-00517-00152040-00152219 this and we were still pushing this in usdV9CHcdwM-00518-00152220-00152501 Nigeria to ensure that um actual usdV9CHcdwM-00519-00152502-00152740 intelligence becomes the mainstream in usdV9CHcdwM-00520-00152741-00152914 um in combating crime and criminal usdV9CHcdwM-00521-00152915-00153149 justice system thank you so much so in usdV9CHcdwM-00522-00153150-00153371 conclusion my idea of the future of usdV9CHcdwM-00523-00153372-00153604 Justice delivery in Africa is um it's usdV9CHcdwM-00524-00153605-00153875 shown where cases are concluded in less usdV9CHcdwM-00525-00153876-00154090 than one year right now it takes about usdV9CHcdwM-00526-00154091-00154331 15 to 30 years to conclude all through usdV9CHcdwM-00527-00154332-00154637 the on the three tiers of usdV9CHcdwM-00528-00154638-00154985 um job of courts in Nigeria and um using usdV9CHcdwM-00529-00154986-00155261 actions this can be much better much usdV9CHcdwM-00530-00155262-00155537 faster and that's what we we're doing at usdV9CHcdwM-00531-00155538-00156113 local thank you so much for your time usdV9CHcdwM-00532-00156114-00156593 thank you Mr olukasa and these were very usdV9CHcdwM-00533-00156594-00156881 interesting lessons from Nigeria and you usdV9CHcdwM-00534-00156882-00157139 pointed first at the challenges like 4 usdV9CHcdwM-00535-00157140-00157414 300 cases filed for duration of criminal usdV9CHcdwM-00536-00157415-00157702 cases but also the growth of cases at usdV9CHcdwM-00537-00157703-00158069 appeal with the 200 grows and but also usdV9CHcdwM-00538-00158070-00158471 some opportunities like the legal usdV9CHcdwM-00539-00158472-00158704 analytics but also of course a few usdV9CHcdwM-00540-00158705-00158999 challenging Parts I think the easy app usdV9CHcdwM-00541-00159000-00159233 just ease app usdV9CHcdwM-00542-00159234-00159431 um could be discussed from a human usdV9CHcdwM-00543-00159432-00159857 rights perspective and from the the the usdV9CHcdwM-00544-00159858-00160163 part of the the face recognition the usdV9CHcdwM-00545-00160164-00160507 digital evidence-based um usdV9CHcdwM-00546-00160508-00160859 Pursuits also the a assistant document usdV9CHcdwM-00547-00160860-00161093 reviews so we will have time for usdV9CHcdwM-00548-00161094-00161326 discussion a little bit later I I ask usdV9CHcdwM-00549-00161327-00161537 you to please reserve your questions and usdV9CHcdwM-00550-00161538-00161771 points for a little bit later we will usdV9CHcdwM-00551-00161772-00161963 now first hear usdV9CHcdwM-00552-00161964-00162295 um Miss Aishwarya usdV9CHcdwM-00553-00162296-00162604 who is working in the technology and usdV9CHcdwM-00554-00162605-00162761 Society team at the center for usdV9CHcdwM-00555-00162762-00162935 communication governance in new daily usdV9CHcdwM-00556-00162936-00163114 University usdV9CHcdwM-00557-00163115-00163397 and her work primarily focuses on issues usdV9CHcdwM-00558-00163398-00163576 relating to data protection internet usdV9CHcdwM-00559-00163577-00163901 governance intermediary liability and usdV9CHcdwM-00560-00163902-00164104 emerging Technologies but also of course usdV9CHcdwM-00561-00164105-00164339 on opportunities and challenges related usdV9CHcdwM-00562-00164340-00164554 to the digitalization and use of AI in usdV9CHcdwM-00563-00164555-00164764 the Judiciary so you have the floor usdV9CHcdwM-00564-00164765-00165304 thank you so much yes usdV9CHcdwM-00565-00165305-00165466 thank you to the assistant director usdV9CHcdwM-00566-00165467-00165737 general for having opened the the floor usdV9CHcdwM-00567-00165738-00166002 and here's other appointments so usdV9CHcdwM-00568-00166003-00166187 foreign usdV9CHcdwM-00569-00166188-00166378 Audible usdV9CHcdwM-00570-00166379-00166583 well great usdV9CHcdwM-00571-00166584-00166907 um so I work in Civil Society so I guess usdV9CHcdwM-00572-00166908-00167249 my job is to introduce a few roadblocks usdV9CHcdwM-00573-00167250-00167513 into our thinking about Ai and quick usdV9CHcdwM-00574-00167514-00167890 deployment and um and I think we can all usdV9CHcdwM-00575-00167891-00168040 agree in general this is also an issue usdV9CHcdwM-00576-00168041-00168239 that tends to come up in India is that usdV9CHcdwM-00577-00168240-00168443 we do need faster disposal of cases usdV9CHcdwM-00578-00168444-00168593 Justice delivery does take an usdV9CHcdwM-00579-00168594-00168809 exorbitantly long period of time and so usdV9CHcdwM-00580-00168810-00168947 I do think there are ways in which we usdV9CHcdwM-00581-00168948-00169102 can use technology to make that process usdV9CHcdwM-00582-00169103-00169264 a little bit better usdV9CHcdwM-00583-00169265-00169385 um but I did want to highlight three usdV9CHcdwM-00584-00169386-00169619 broad challenges uh or three things that usdV9CHcdwM-00585-00169620-00169799 we need to think about when we're using usdV9CHcdwM-00586-00169800-00170033 AI Technologies in the Judiciary and usdV9CHcdwM-00587-00170034-00170176 more generally in law enforcement as usdV9CHcdwM-00588-00170177-00170278 well usdV9CHcdwM-00589-00170279-00170471 um so one is with respect to usdV9CHcdwM-00590-00170472-00170740 transparency and the concept of trust in usdV9CHcdwM-00591-00170741-00170969 the Judiciary uh the second is with usdV9CHcdwM-00592-00170970-00171143 respect to the challenges with usdV9CHcdwM-00593-00171144-00171299 digitization and infrastructural usdV9CHcdwM-00594-00171300-00171514 capacity and the third is with respect usdV9CHcdwM-00595-00171515-00171689 to privacy usdV9CHcdwM-00596-00171690-00172001 um so if we if we start at a very basic usdV9CHcdwM-00597-00172002-00172097 level usdV9CHcdwM-00598-00172098-00172301 um I know that this is an issue in usdV9CHcdwM-00599-00172302-00172607 developing countries example we need to usdV9CHcdwM-00600-00172608-00172835 be able to ensure a basic level of usdV9CHcdwM-00601-00172836-00173014 access to the internet and access to usdV9CHcdwM-00602-00173015-00173309 Digital Services especially when we usdV9CHcdwM-00603-00173310-00173531 require users or individuals or usdV9CHcdwM-00604-00173532-00173735 litigants to communicate with anything usdV9CHcdwM-00605-00173736-00173999 that's Technology based and usdV9CHcdwM-00606-00174000-00174364 although it is although the rates of the usdV9CHcdwM-00607-00174365-00174526 rates of internet access are different usdV9CHcdwM-00608-00174527-00174659 among usdV9CHcdwM-00609-00174660-00174904 urban and rural areas and are different usdV9CHcdwM-00610-00174905-00175133 within countries again what this can usdV9CHcdwM-00611-00175134-00175366 lead to is an issue of exclusion of the usdV9CHcdwM-00612-00175367-00175523 most vulnerable and marginalized people usdV9CHcdwM-00613-00175524-00175721 which is something that you see with usdV9CHcdwM-00614-00175722-00175913 tech-based Solutions in general so the usdV9CHcdwM-00615-00175914-00176038 first thing that we do need to focus on usdV9CHcdwM-00616-00176039-00176188 is the fact that everyone is actually usdV9CHcdwM-00617-00176189-00176483 able to benefit from the from the usdV9CHcdwM-00618-00176484-00176651 technological interventions that we want usdV9CHcdwM-00619-00176652-00176807 to make usdV9CHcdwM-00620-00176808-00177064 um the second is on especially with usdV9CHcdwM-00621-00177065-00177257 respect to the Judiciary I think having usdV9CHcdwM-00622-00177258-00177485 access to computer systems digital usdV9CHcdwM-00623-00177486-00177725 literacy at all levels of the Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-00624-00177726-00177947 is important and especially when we talk usdV9CHcdwM-00625-00177948-00178121 about different kinds of AI I think usdV9CHcdwM-00626-00178122-00178288 that's I mean one of the things that I usdV9CHcdwM-00627-00178289-00178528 think everyone who works with AI uh can usdV9CHcdwM-00628-00178529-00178721 agree on is that nobody can really agree usdV9CHcdwM-00629-00178722-00178931 on what AI is so depending on the kind usdV9CHcdwM-00630-00178932-00179135 of tools it becomes necessary to also usdV9CHcdwM-00631-00179136-00179309 make it very clear what the limitations usdV9CHcdwM-00632-00179310-00179687 of of the tools are so for example if usdV9CHcdwM-00633-00179688-00179831 you're talking about predictive policing usdV9CHcdwM-00634-00179832-00179951 or when we're talking about risk usdV9CHcdwM-00635-00179952-00180173 assessment tools that are used in uh usdV9CHcdwM-00636-00180174-00180443 sentencing or used in assessing bail usdV9CHcdwM-00637-00180444-00180671 applications for example the fact that a usdV9CHcdwM-00638-00180672-00180838 software tells you that someone is more usdV9CHcdwM-00639-00180839-00180976 likely to usdV9CHcdwM-00640-00180977-00181288 um reoffend doesn't necessarily tell you usdV9CHcdwM-00641-00181289-00181445 anything about the metrics that that usdV9CHcdwM-00642-00181446-00181661 were used uh to come up with that output usdV9CHcdwM-00643-00181662-00181937 and so especially as a judge as a police usdV9CHcdwM-00644-00181938-00182069 officer as someone who's making usdV9CHcdwM-00645-00182070-00182266 decisions that affect the liberty of an usdV9CHcdwM-00646-00182267-00182399 individual based on what a software usdV9CHcdwM-00647-00182400-00182602 system says it's important to know what usdV9CHcdwM-00648-00182603-00182723 the limitations of these candidates usdV9CHcdwM-00649-00182724-00182999 systems are and the third is I guess usdV9CHcdwM-00650-00183000-00183119 this is again like a more basic usdV9CHcdwM-00651-00183120-00183323 infrastructural kind of issue is that a usdV9CHcdwM-00652-00183324-00183431 lot of usdV9CHcdwM-00653-00183432-00183616 um especially when we're talking about usdV9CHcdwM-00654-00183617-00183778 things like digitizing case records usdV9CHcdwM-00655-00183779-00184054 right A lot of it relies on as the first usdV9CHcdwM-00656-00184055-00184240 step making sure that you have machine usdV9CHcdwM-00657-00184241-00184511 readable versions of documents and now usdV9CHcdwM-00658-00184512-00184781 if you have like I come from India there usdV9CHcdwM-00659-00184782-00185033 are a number of vernacular languages uh usdV9CHcdwM-00660-00185034-00185231 across different states in trial courts usdV9CHcdwM-00661-00185232-00185507 you have very little that's me that's uh usdV9CHcdwM-00662-00185508-00185735 that is written in English and so you usdV9CHcdwM-00663-00185736-00185993 have to first transcribe you have to usdV9CHcdwM-00664-00185994-00186131 have machine reading systems that are usdV9CHcdwM-00665-00186132-00186371 able to accurately transcribe what a usdV9CHcdwM-00666-00186372-00186509 case document says which is usually usdV9CHcdwM-00667-00186510-00186754 handwritten to be able to do any kind of usdV9CHcdwM-00668-00186755-00187037 like further processing on that and as usdV9CHcdwM-00669-00187038-00187288 currently at least the rates of accuracy usdV9CHcdwM-00670-00187289-00187438 of these kind of Technologies is very usdV9CHcdwM-00671-00187439-00187726 low and so that is sort of a basic build usdV9CHcdwM-00672-00187727-00187943 like stumbling block when you come to usdV9CHcdwM-00673-00187944-00188152 for example undertaking things like usdV9CHcdwM-00674-00188153-00188393 trying to analyze what a decision is usdV9CHcdwM-00675-00188394-00188621 saying or like uh trying to figure out usdV9CHcdwM-00676-00188622-00188873 what a piece of evidence summarize a usdV9CHcdwM-00677-00188874-00188999 piece of evidence for a judge right so usdV9CHcdwM-00678-00189000-00189113 you need to be able to actually tell usdV9CHcdwM-00679-00189114-00189328 what the document says so I guess what usdV9CHcdwM-00680-00189329-00189509 I'm trying to get at with usdV9CHcdwM-00681-00189510-00189683 um with this is that even at a more usdV9CHcdwM-00682-00189684-00189940 basic like most simple interventions for usdV9CHcdwM-00683-00189941-00190204 example even things like um usdV9CHcdwM-00684-00190205-00190493 creating a case docket a case list to usdV9CHcdwM-00685-00190494-00190637 make it more efficient can have usdV9CHcdwM-00686-00190638-00190852 significant impacts on Justice delivery usdV9CHcdwM-00687-00190853-00191057 especially when people figure out how to usdV9CHcdwM-00688-00191058-00191243 game the system or if there are factors usdV9CHcdwM-00689-00191244-00191411 that aren't taken into account usdV9CHcdwM-00690-00191412-00191807 um when making these assessments right usdV9CHcdwM-00691-00191808-00191987 um so the second and maybe what I'll usdV9CHcdwM-00692-00191988-00192161 spend the most amount of time on is on usdV9CHcdwM-00693-00192162-00192364 the importance of trust in the Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-00694-00192365-00192773 the whole the whole basis of trust the usdV9CHcdwM-00695-00192774-00192935 whole basis of legitimacy of the usdV9CHcdwM-00696-00192936-00193283 judicial system is trust and so there usdV9CHcdwM-00697-00193284-00193451 are two significant issues that AI usdV9CHcdwM-00698-00193452-00193787 systems can uh can impose here so one is usdV9CHcdwM-00699-00193788-00194063 with respect to the nature of algorithms usdV9CHcdwM-00700-00194064-00194231 and else and the second is with respect usdV9CHcdwM-00701-00194232-00194464 to the actors who develop and and usdV9CHcdwM-00702-00194465-00194675 license these algorithms so I think here usdV9CHcdwM-00703-00194676-00194825 it's useful to maybe just think about usdV9CHcdwM-00704-00194826-00195011 what we're discussing so usually when we usdV9CHcdwM-00705-00195012-00195131 talk about AI we're talking about usdV9CHcdwM-00706-00195132-00195293 machine learning algorithms which usdV9CHcdwM-00707-00195294-00195551 basically their whole goal is to be able usdV9CHcdwM-00708-00195552-00195773 to perform a task by learning from usdV9CHcdwM-00709-00195774-00195904 previous data and without being usdV9CHcdwM-00710-00195905-00196114 specifically told how to do something usdV9CHcdwM-00711-00196115-00196414 so this can lead to very unexpected and usdV9CHcdwM-00712-00196415-00196601 interesting outcomes but it also can usdV9CHcdwM-00713-00196602-00196757 mean that it's very unclear how they usdV9CHcdwM-00714-00196758-00196954 arrived at those outcomes so now that usdV9CHcdwM-00715-00196955-00197123 leads to two issues one is what you call usdV9CHcdwM-00716-00197124-00197338 the Black Box problem which is that it's usdV9CHcdwM-00717-00197339-00197507 very hard to understand the the usdV9CHcdwM-00718-00197508-00197764 reasoning behind decisions which can usdV9CHcdwM-00719-00197765-00197890 make it very difficult to understand usdV9CHcdwM-00720-00197891-00198107 whether or not an outcome is fair so usdV9CHcdwM-00721-00198108-00198364 especially for things like um so there usdV9CHcdwM-00722-00198365-00198635 is uh there's Compass which is a tool usdV9CHcdwM-00723-00198636-00198833 that has been used in the US to assess usdV9CHcdwM-00724-00198834-00199025 the risk of pre-offense usdV9CHcdwM-00725-00199026-00199235 um for uh for people who've been usdV9CHcdwM-00726-00199236-00199523 convicted to see what their likelihood usdV9CHcdwM-00727-00199524-00199690 as in to make decisions based on usdV9CHcdwM-00728-00199691-00200081 detention parole sentencing Etc so now usdV9CHcdwM-00729-00200082-00200345 if you are a person on whom this tool usdV9CHcdwM-00730-00200346-00200590 has been used and you have been assessed usdV9CHcdwM-00731-00200591-00200764 to be high risk usdV9CHcdwM-00732-00200765-00201023 it's very hard to understand what the usdV9CHcdwM-00733-00201024-00201316 basis of that of that assessment is and usdV9CHcdwM-00734-00201317-00201461 if they're making the use of protected usdV9CHcdwM-00735-00201462-00201659 characteristics for example or if it's usdV9CHcdwM-00736-00201660-00201814 discriminatory or biased for example usdV9CHcdwM-00737-00201815-00201988 there's no real way for you as a usdV9CHcdwM-00738-00201989-00202252 litigant to be able to understand or usdV9CHcdwM-00739-00202253-00202493 seek redressal for for usdV9CHcdwM-00740-00202494-00202702 um for outcomes that are based on AI usdV9CHcdwM-00741-00202703-00202961 systems right the second is also on usdV9CHcdwM-00742-00202962-00203200 ascribing liability and accountability usdV9CHcdwM-00743-00203201-00203500 so for example when an AI system or when usdV9CHcdwM-00744-00203501-00203740 a software makes a false a wrong usdV9CHcdwM-00745-00203741-00203945 decision or is discriminatory or leads usdV9CHcdwM-00746-00203946-00204100 to outcomes that are unfair in whatever usdV9CHcdwM-00747-00204101-00204335 way who exactly do you hold liable usdV9CHcdwM-00748-00204336-00204533 because you can't really hold software usdV9CHcdwM-00749-00204534-00204700 liable so then you hold the person who usdV9CHcdwM-00750-00204701-00204832 developed it liable which is a whole usdV9CHcdwM-00751-00204833-00205036 team of people behold the person who usdV9CHcdwM-00752-00205037-00205240 made a decision based on that liable so usdV9CHcdwM-00753-00205241-00205396 again you know we need to think about usdV9CHcdwM-00754-00205398-00205564 this before we start deploying AI usdV9CHcdwM-00755-00205565-00205979 systems right the other thing is that usdV9CHcdwM-00756-00205980-00206194 the judicial process is based on the usdV9CHcdwM-00757-00206196-00206434 concept of explainability the fact is usdV9CHcdwM-00758-00206435-00206579 that you need to understand this is why usdV9CHcdwM-00759-00206580-00206788 you have the reason for decisions being usdV9CHcdwM-00760-00206789-00206962 made available right like the fact that usdV9CHcdwM-00761-00206963-00207142 you need to understand the reasoning usdV9CHcdwM-00762-00207144-00207329 behind a judgment or reasoning behind a usdV9CHcdwM-00763-00207330-00207508 decision so that you can assess and usdV9CHcdwM-00764-00207509-00207814 contest that decision and so any kind of usdV9CHcdwM-00765-00207815-00208036 AI tool that you use in a Judicial usdV9CHcdwM-00766-00208037-00208205 context needs to have very high usdV9CHcdwM-00767-00208206-00208414 explainability standards so that people usdV9CHcdwM-00768-00208415-00208601 are able to contest it where it leads to usdV9CHcdwM-00769-00208602-00208738 outcomes that they think is biased or usdV9CHcdwM-00770-00208739-00208955 unfair so partly this could include usdV9CHcdwM-00771-00208956-00209248 things like very basically things like usdV9CHcdwM-00772-00209250-00209446 uh the factors that are used in usdV9CHcdwM-00773-00209448-00209669 assessing the outcome the role of human usdV9CHcdwM-00774-00209669-00209932 actors in in the algorithmic development usdV9CHcdwM-00775-00209933-00210184 process uh what the input data is what usdV9CHcdwM-00776-00210185-00210317 the different weights are that are given usdV9CHcdwM-00777-00210317-00210460 to different factors things like this usdV9CHcdwM-00778-00210461-00210815 right now the second broad bucket usdV9CHcdwM-00779-00210816-00210929 um of issues that I was talking about usdV9CHcdwM-00780-00210930-00211163 with respect to transparency is on who usdV9CHcdwM-00781-00211164-00211337 designs the software uh that is being usdV9CHcdwM-00782-00211338-00211571 deployed in these systems so now in most usdV9CHcdwM-00783-00211571-00211882 cases algorithms and software is being usdV9CHcdwM-00784-00211883-00212032 designed by private sector institutions usdV9CHcdwM-00785-00212033-00212158 which have usdV9CHcdwM-00786-00212159-00212441 proprietary on proprietary software and usdV9CHcdwM-00787-00212442-00212639 so you don't really have transparency usdV9CHcdwM-00788-00212640-00212819 into some of the things that I said like usdV9CHcdwM-00789-00212819-00213005 the factors that are used in usdV9CHcdwM-00790-00213006-00213155 um in making assessments the kind of usdV9CHcdwM-00791-00213156-00213275 like weightage that's given to different usdV9CHcdwM-00792-00213276-00213503 factors for example but also you don't usdV9CHcdwM-00793-00213504-00213671 have any kind of audits so it's not usdV9CHcdwM-00794-00213671-00213851 possible for someone to go out and see usdV9CHcdwM-00795-00213852-00214048 if there are if if for example a usdV9CHcdwM-00796-00214050-00214217 software is leading to biased outcomes usdV9CHcdwM-00797-00214217-00214421 before it's deployed so what this usdV9CHcdwM-00798-00214421-00214631 essentially means is that there is uh usdV9CHcdwM-00799-00214632-00214769 this there's a lack of accountability usdV9CHcdwM-00800-00214769-00214882 it's very hard to hold someone usdV9CHcdwM-00801-00214883-00215146 accountable when nothing about the way usdV9CHcdwM-00802-00215148-00215303 that the system operates or nothing usdV9CHcdwM-00803-00215304-00215567 about the way that uh yeah where nothing usdV9CHcdwM-00804-00215567-00215705 about the way the system operates is usdV9CHcdwM-00805-00215706-00215932 made clear so for example usdV9CHcdwM-00806-00215933-00216148 um there was a case where the the usdV9CHcdwM-00807-00216150-00216341 Michigan's unemployment benefit system usdV9CHcdwM-00808-00216342-00216623 was had incorrectly flagged over 34 000 usdV9CHcdwM-00809-00216623-00216875 people of uh fraud which meant that they usdV9CHcdwM-00810-00216876-00217013 lost all their unemployment benefits usdV9CHcdwM-00811-00217014-00217144 they were a lot of them had to face usdV9CHcdwM-00812-00217146-00217294 bankruptcy a lot of them lost their usdV9CHcdwM-00813-00217296-00217456 houses so this had very significant usdV9CHcdwM-00814-00217457-00217619 implications for the rights of all of usdV9CHcdwM-00815-00217619-00217853 these 34 000 people who were incorrectly usdV9CHcdwM-00816-00217854-00218015 again flagged as being fraudulent and I usdV9CHcdwM-00817-00218016-00218225 think later was found that the error usdV9CHcdwM-00818-00218226-00218406 rate for that software was well over 90 usdV9CHcdwM-00819-00218407-00218705 so this is a very basic example of how usdV9CHcdwM-00820-00218706-00218825 this could have been a very easily usdV9CHcdwM-00821-00218826-00219034 avoided outcome audits had there been usdV9CHcdwM-00822-00219035-00219215 more consultation had there been more usdV9CHcdwM-00823-00219216-00219323 information about the kind of usdV9CHcdwM-00824-00219323-00219484 information that the algorithm was usdV9CHcdwM-00825-00219485-00219641 accounting for and making its decisions usdV9CHcdwM-00826-00219642-00219844 similarly Compass which I just spoke usdV9CHcdwM-00827-00219846-00220187 about is a private had been developed by usdV9CHcdwM-00828-00220188-00220373 uh by a private company it relies on usdV9CHcdwM-00829-00220373-00220523 proprietary algorithm that makes any usdV9CHcdwM-00830-00220523-00220775 kind of auditing impossible and so there usdV9CHcdwM-00831-00220776-00221044 was a study that later found that um usdV9CHcdwM-00832-00221046-00221231 black defendants were far more likely to usdV9CHcdwM-00833-00221232-00221453 be tagged higher risk of reoffence than usdV9CHcdwM-00834-00221454-00221692 uh White defendants and this was false usdV9CHcdwM-00835-00221694-00221879 um incorrectly tagged it as being as usdV9CHcdwM-00836-00221880-00222005 being usdV9CHcdwM-00837-00222006-00222275 um at a higher risk of reoffending and usdV9CHcdwM-00838-00222276-00222455 so there are some studies that you can usdV9CHcdwM-00839-00222456-00222605 do once an algorithm has already been usdV9CHcdwM-00840-00222606-00222839 deployed uh but again at that point it usdV9CHcdwM-00841-00222840-00223139 might be too late because you have a usdV9CHcdwM-00842-00223140-00223337 lot of people potentially depending on usdV9CHcdwM-00843-00223338-00223505 the scale of deployment whose rights usdV9CHcdwM-00844-00223506-00223721 have already been infringed by by a usdV9CHcdwM-00845-00223721-00223973 system right now the last kind of usdV9CHcdwM-00846-00223973-00224081 concern that I want to highlight very usdV9CHcdwM-00847-00224082-00224267 quickly I know I'm probably running a usdV9CHcdwM-00848-00224267-00224471 lot of time is just on privacy so I'm usdV9CHcdwM-00849-00224471-00224579 going to keep it very short and just usdV9CHcdwM-00850-00224580-00224717 talk about usdV9CHcdwM-00851-00224717-00224987 primarily the issue uh comes with what usdV9CHcdwM-00852-00224988-00225244 kind of data sets are being used by uh usdV9CHcdwM-00853-00225246-00225515 developers to train algorithms so how is usdV9CHcdwM-00854-00225516-00225737 the information collected and is that is usdV9CHcdwM-00855-00225738-00225955 the information that's being used usdV9CHcdwM-00856-00225956-00226132 disproportionate to the purpose that's usdV9CHcdwM-00857-00226133-00226391 being uh that's meant to be served right usdV9CHcdwM-00858-00226392-00226723 for example uh I think they found that usdV9CHcdwM-00859-00226723-00226996 heart which is a system that's used in usdV9CHcdwM-00860-00226998-00227284 the UK similar to for identifying the usdV9CHcdwM-00861-00227285-00227513 risk of free offense again used existing usdV9CHcdwM-00862-00227514-00227806 police data uh used postcode data but usdV9CHcdwM-00863-00227807-00228101 also I think used uh data from a data usdV9CHcdwM-00864-00228102-00228256 broker right which again I think there usdV9CHcdwM-00865-00228257-00228394 were concerns about where the data usdV9CHcdwM-00866-00228396-00228598 broker got the information from and I usdV9CHcdwM-00867-00228600-00228808 think again concerns were raised about usdV9CHcdwM-00868-00228809-00228946 the fact that it was from illegal usdV9CHcdwM-00869-00228948-00229175 sources so again when it comes to usdV9CHcdwM-00870-00229176-00229505 something like this how how legal how usdV9CHcdwM-00871-00229506-00229798 morally right how ethical is it to use usdV9CHcdwM-00872-00229800-00229967 data sets that have been collected usdV9CHcdwM-00873-00229967-00230129 illegally is one thing that we have to usdV9CHcdwM-00874-00230130-00230339 consider and secondly also what kind of usdV9CHcdwM-00875-00230340-00230506 information is useful or like what kind usdV9CHcdwM-00876-00230507-00230651 of information should be fed into this usdV9CHcdwM-00877-00230652-00230842 so predictive policing models rely on usdV9CHcdwM-00878-00230844-00231041 social media posts for example now is usdV9CHcdwM-00879-00231042-00231317 that a valid source of information for usdV9CHcdwM-00880-00231317-00231521 making decisions usdV9CHcdwM-00881-00231521-00231701 um based on something that might be usdV9CHcdwM-00882-00231702-00231953 totally unrelated right so usdV9CHcdwM-00883-00231954-00232210 these are broadly the concerns very usdV9CHcdwM-00884-00232211-00232427 quickly again I think there are a few usdV9CHcdwM-00885-00232428-00232589 ways to address this one is to just usdV9CHcdwM-00886-00232590-00232756 figure out whether we really need to be usdV9CHcdwM-00887-00232757-00233032 using AI in a system just because we can usdV9CHcdwM-00888-00233033-00233189 doesn't necessarily always mean that we usdV9CHcdwM-00889-00233190-00233303 should so I think there is a usdV9CHcdwM-00890-00233304-00233465 conversation about what kind of tools usdV9CHcdwM-00891-00233466-00233615 you want to use at what stage in the usdV9CHcdwM-00892-00233616-00233825 judicial process and even when you do usdV9CHcdwM-00893-00233826-00234029 use tools the need for public usdV9CHcdwM-00894-00234030-00234232 consultations is Paramount before a usdV9CHcdwM-00895-00234233-00234394 system is adopted so that you can figure usdV9CHcdwM-00896-00234396-00234623 out what the potential pitfalls are the usdV9CHcdwM-00897-00234623-00234821 need for audits again similarly so you usdV9CHcdwM-00898-00234821-00234971 can see if there are biased or unfair usdV9CHcdwM-00899-00234971-00235294 outcomes the need for a small scale usdV9CHcdwM-00900-00235296-00235498 deployment pilot projects cannot be usdV9CHcdwM-00901-00235500-00235655 overstated because again like a lot of usdV9CHcdwM-00902-00235656-00235810 things might show up only when you usdV9CHcdwM-00903-00235811-00235931 actually deploy the software that you usdV9CHcdwM-00904-00235932-00236105 weren't prepared for and so doing it on usdV9CHcdwM-00905-00236106-00236248 a smaller scale prepares you for what usdV9CHcdwM-00906-00236250-00236434 you can expect at a larger scale and usdV9CHcdwM-00907-00236435-00236596 then also having monitoring and review usdV9CHcdwM-00908-00236598-00236801 processes to address some of these usdV9CHcdwM-00909-00236802-00237053 issues as they come up usdV9CHcdwM-00910-00237054-00237292 um so yes I mean those would be great uh usdV9CHcdwM-00911-00237294-00237448 great steps to take once you do figure usdV9CHcdwM-00912-00237450-00237832 out that you want to use AI usdV9CHcdwM-00913-00237833-00238139 thank you so much Aishwarya and this was usdV9CHcdwM-00914-00238140-00238289 really an important usdV9CHcdwM-00915-00238290-00238565 um mainly you highlighted the challenges usdV9CHcdwM-00916-00238566-00238889 like exclusion uh the importance of usdV9CHcdwM-00917-00238890-00239134 trust and the brake pocket problem but usdV9CHcdwM-00918-00239135-00239332 also the Privacy challenges and also a usdV9CHcdwM-00919-00239333-00239513 few ways forward thank you for pointing usdV9CHcdwM-00920-00239514-00239789 that out to that too we'll now come back usdV9CHcdwM-00921-00239790-00240082 to the African continent and I will usdV9CHcdwM-00922-00240083-00240365 invite Linda bonu the founder of lawyers usdV9CHcdwM-00923-00240366-00240706 Hub Africa to speak Linda is a digital usdV9CHcdwM-00924-00240707-00240905 expert working on digital policy and usdV9CHcdwM-00925-00240906-00241108 Justice Innovation within the African usdV9CHcdwM-00926-00241109-00241384 continent she's also the CEO and founder usdV9CHcdwM-00927-00241385-00241601 of the liosa usdV9CHcdwM-00928-00241602-00241841 the floor is yours and five minutes usdV9CHcdwM-00929-00241842-00242363 please usdV9CHcdwM-00930-00242364-00242567 um thank you very much I was trying to usdV9CHcdwM-00931-00242567-00242903 share my screen and then all my secrets usdV9CHcdwM-00932-00242904-00243113 um came up on here usdV9CHcdwM-00933-00243114-00243256 um but I wanted to just share a bit usdV9CHcdwM-00934-00243257-00243382 about usdV9CHcdwM-00935-00243383-00243713 um the work that we do and um usdV9CHcdwM-00936-00243714-00243905 okay just one minute usdV9CHcdwM-00937-00243906-00244121 I will stop my video usdV9CHcdwM-00938-00244121-00244282 um yeah I was just going to share about usdV9CHcdwM-00939-00244283-00244481 a few things a lot has been said and I'm usdV9CHcdwM-00940-00244482-00244696 not going to bore you but I wanted to usdV9CHcdwM-00941-00244698-00244906 share highlights from a report that we usdV9CHcdwM-00942-00244907-00245213 did recently it's a report on AI and usdV9CHcdwM-00943-00245214-00245417 Justice in Africa usdV9CHcdwM-00944-00245417-00245675 um and we launched it last week at the usdV9CHcdwM-00945-00245676-00245927 Africa legal Innovation week and a few usdV9CHcdwM-00946-00245928-00246077 learnings that usdV9CHcdwM-00947-00246078-00246298 um I think it's useful to share one usdV9CHcdwM-00948-00246300-00246527 about digitalization usdV9CHcdwM-00949-00246528-00246773 um about the concept around artificial usdV9CHcdwM-00950-00246773-00246910 intelligence and what's actually usdV9CHcdwM-00951-00246911-00247169 happening in the continent is using usdV9CHcdwM-00952-00247169-00247391 um this digitalization powered by usdV9CHcdwM-00953-00247392-00247565 virtual quotes usdV9CHcdwM-00954-00247566-00247715 um and so when I talk about lack of data usdV9CHcdwM-00955-00247716-00247955 which was pre-covered we have now a lot usdV9CHcdwM-00956-00247956-00248177 of African quotes really taking up the usdV9CHcdwM-00957-00248178-00248542 use of um the use of um of virtual usdV9CHcdwM-00958-00248544-00248734 courts and so it's powering everything usdV9CHcdwM-00959-00248735-00249005 else within that context so we have usdV9CHcdwM-00960-00249006-00249203 digital payment systems and people usdV9CHcdwM-00961-00249204-00249508 really going for the use of and I like usdV9CHcdwM-00962-00249509-00249881 the first presentation that was done usdV9CHcdwM-00963-00249882-00249948 um usdV9CHcdwM-00964-00249950-00250234 around you know payments and assessment usdV9CHcdwM-00965-00250235-00250523 of fees and bonds as well and so we're usdV9CHcdwM-00966-00250523-00250696 seeing that happening a lot usdV9CHcdwM-00967-00250698-00250931 um within within the African you know um usdV9CHcdwM-00968-00250932-00251177 context I'd also want to usdV9CHcdwM-00969-00251178-00251446 um say the second Point around it is usdV9CHcdwM-00970-00251448-00251615 um the question I must answer is what's usdV9CHcdwM-00971-00251616-00251873 the changing role of the lawyer and what usdV9CHcdwM-00972-00251873-00252148 should be you know done by lawyers in usdV9CHcdwM-00973-00252150-00252334 this specific context so one of the usdV9CHcdwM-00974-00252335-00252577 things that we're seeing for lawyers Now usdV9CHcdwM-00975-00252578-00253013 is really a case management systems the usdV9CHcdwM-00976-00253014-00253325 need to speak you know coherently within usdV9CHcdwM-00977-00253326-00253510 the Justice sector so even as the usdV9CHcdwM-00978-00253511-00253655 Judiciary is adopting of the use of usdV9CHcdwM-00979-00253656-00253882 Technology we see bar associations usdV9CHcdwM-00980-00253883-00254101 actually coming up with usdV9CHcdwM-00981-00254102-00254327 new ways in which they are managing usdV9CHcdwM-00982-00254328-00254615 Advocates and verifying Advocates and so usdV9CHcdwM-00983-00254616-00254969 on a larger scale we see the need for usdV9CHcdwM-00984-00254969-00255239 concerted efforts around digital issues usdV9CHcdwM-00985-00255240-00255382 that we're talking about even within the usdV9CHcdwM-00986-00255383-00255563 context of digital trade and so because usdV9CHcdwM-00987-00255564-00255851 now Justice is now being productized and usdV9CHcdwM-00988-00255852-00255977 so how we look looking at digital usdV9CHcdwM-00989-00255978-00256156 identity for lawyers because we've had usdV9CHcdwM-00990-00256157-00256379 issues around verification of who is a usdV9CHcdwM-00991-00256380-00256534 lawyer and who's not a lawyer and that's usdV9CHcdwM-00992-00256535-00256787 really a big issue across the African usdV9CHcdwM-00993-00256788-00256919 continent usdV9CHcdwM-00994-00256919-00257117 um and so the second issue that we are usdV9CHcdwM-00995-00257117-00257429 also seeing was you know um and we see usdV9CHcdwM-00996-00257430-00257608 Justice following the same patterns of usdV9CHcdwM-00997-00257609-00257830 Technology adoption within the African usdV9CHcdwM-00998-00257831-00258058 continent so you see Nigeria and South usdV9CHcdwM-00999-00258059-00258263 Africa and Kenya and Morocco and Egypt usdV9CHcdwM-01000-00258264-00258403 really being usdV9CHcdwM-01001-00258404-00258617 drivers of change within the tech usdV9CHcdwM-01002-00258617-00258841 ecosystem but then also the same usdV9CHcdwM-01003-00258842-00259156 following within the judicial sector as usdV9CHcdwM-01004-00259157-00259432 well I also want to talk about you know usdV9CHcdwM-01005-00259433-00259756 the lawyers and strategic litigator we usdV9CHcdwM-01006-00259757-00259991 see new aspects of people really pushing usdV9CHcdwM-01007-00259992-00260158 for their rights their conversations usdV9CHcdwM-01008-00260159-00260519 happening around bias of AI systems in usdV9CHcdwM-01009-00260519-00260717 digital lending which digital lending usdV9CHcdwM-01010-00260717-00260956 has been a huge issue in Kenya and the usdV9CHcdwM-01011-00260957-00261155 central bank now coming into force and usdV9CHcdwM-01012-00261156-00261389 you know issuing guidelines around that usdV9CHcdwM-01013-00261390-00261658 and then we see data protection regimes usdV9CHcdwM-01014-00261659-00261923 now uh within the continent now having usdV9CHcdwM-01015-00261923-00262187 closes around automated decision making usdV9CHcdwM-01016-00262188-00262456 processes and saying that any automated usdV9CHcdwM-01017-00262457-00262630 decision making process should ideally usdV9CHcdwM-01018-00262631-00262937 be supervised by a human being which is usdV9CHcdwM-01019-00262938-00263117 really relevant for the judicial sector usdV9CHcdwM-01020-00263118-00263260 as well usdV9CHcdwM-01021-00263261-00263399 um and so what's the changing role of usdV9CHcdwM-01022-00263400-00263603 alloyance this that the lawyer and the usdV9CHcdwM-01023-00263604-00263801 judge now needs to be a computational usdV9CHcdwM-01024-00263802-00264077 expert and we had sessions last week on usdV9CHcdwM-01025-00264078-00264275 discussions around to Glorious God usdV9CHcdwM-01026-00264276-00264443 should judges really get to court as usdV9CHcdwM-01027-00264444-00264610 well um so that they actually understand usdV9CHcdwM-01028-00264611-00264869 the thinking around data sets and usdV9CHcdwM-01029-00264870-00265079 machine learning that get us to you know usdV9CHcdwM-01030-00265080-00265343 artificial intelligence and how do we usdV9CHcdwM-01031-00265344-00265582 also Drive adoption we've seen contacts usdV9CHcdwM-01032-00265583-00265727 around the African continent where usdV9CHcdwM-01033-00265728-00266015 capacity building is focusing on on usdV9CHcdwM-01034-00266016-00266351 infrastructure in laptops and iPads when usdV9CHcdwM-01035-00266352-00266506 the person who's using this technology usdV9CHcdwM-01036-00266507-00266734 really does not is not really shifted in usdV9CHcdwM-01037-00266735-00266873 in mindset usdV9CHcdwM-01038-00266874-00267077 and so there's a need for capacity usdV9CHcdwM-01039-00267078-00267293 building in digital skills for the usdV9CHcdwM-01040-00267294-00267460 Justice sector especially the lawyers usdV9CHcdwM-01041-00267461-00267701 and and the judges and to see how to get usdV9CHcdwM-01042-00267702-00267910 them to adopt these specific usdV9CHcdwM-01043-00267911-00268108 Technologies because without data we usdV9CHcdwM-01044-00268109-00268337 can't really build you know um accurate usdV9CHcdwM-01045-00268338-00268558 data sets and and build um a really usdV9CHcdwM-01046-00268559-00268769 great judicial system I just want to usdV9CHcdwM-01047-00268770-00268937 mention something that you talked about usdV9CHcdwM-01048-00268938-00269056 um I think you mentioned this case of usdV9CHcdwM-01049-00269057-00269303 Eric Wisconsin Eric Loomis versus usdV9CHcdwM-01050-00269304-00269591 Wisconsin state where the compass you usdV9CHcdwM-01051-00269592-00269699 know usdV9CHcdwM-01052-00269700-00269945 um technology was used to determine usdV9CHcdwM-01053-00269946-00270071 whether he was going to be a repeat or usdV9CHcdwM-01054-00270072-00270282 Panda or not and I think that really usdV9CHcdwM-01055-00270283-00270527 drives us towards one on strategic usdV9CHcdwM-01056-00270528-00270749 litigation but then also two to really usdV9CHcdwM-01057-00270750-00270917 build up data sets that are relevant to usdV9CHcdwM-01058-00270918-00271091 the African continent because our usdV9CHcdwM-01059-00271092-00271319 technology that we are using is foreign usdV9CHcdwM-01060-00271320-00271475 and it's private usdV9CHcdwM-01061-00271476-00271703 um and mostly it's American and our usdV9CHcdwM-01062-00271704-00271871 digital policy is mostly European then usdV9CHcdwM-01063-00271872-00272015 how do we balance those interests and usdV9CHcdwM-01064-00272016-00272303 ensure that our Judicial Systems also usdV9CHcdwM-01065-00272304-00272530 Mira the African context usdV9CHcdwM-01066-00272531-00272680 um in that sense I think my final usdV9CHcdwM-01067-00272681-00272993 comment would be on the role all of the usdV9CHcdwM-01068-00272994-00273280 judge is is our courts and our Court's usdV9CHcdwM-01069-00273281-00273463 going to be the courts of first instance usdV9CHcdwM-01070-00273464-00273808 or our AI system is going to be the the usdV9CHcdwM-01071-00273809-00274030 first instance um and this we've seen usdV9CHcdwM-01072-00274031-00274199 lately from China usdV9CHcdwM-01073-00274200-00274480 um where you now have AIA systems making usdV9CHcdwM-01074-00274481-00274721 a decision fast and then the judge then usdV9CHcdwM-01075-00274722-00274937 now reviews that decision rather than usdV9CHcdwM-01076-00274938-00275195 having the judge fast and then usdV9CHcdwM-01077-00275196-00275332 um you know having the machine review usdV9CHcdwM-01078-00275333-00275560 that specific one and I think for Africa usdV9CHcdwM-01079-00275561-00275825 that's suffering case backlog uh which usdV9CHcdwM-01080-00275826-00276113 is a huge issue and like what um ope you usdV9CHcdwM-01081-00276114-00276310 know highlighted on the time frame for usdV9CHcdwM-01082-00276311-00276610 deciding cases to be more than 10 years usdV9CHcdwM-01083-00276611-00276832 in certain instances when things can be usdV9CHcdwM-01084-00276833-00277049 you know changed shifted and decided usdV9CHcdwM-01085-00277050-00277253 within within a year I think I think usdV9CHcdwM-01086-00277254-00277379 that's something that we need to look at usdV9CHcdwM-01087-00277380-00277619 my final comment would be usdV9CHcdwM-01088-00277620-00277858 um you know um to see ways in which we usdV9CHcdwM-01089-00277859-00277984 are working on this the lawyers have usdV9CHcdwM-01090-00277985-00278243 been working actively we have a digital usdV9CHcdwM-01091-00278244-00278495 policy Institute that's training we're usdV9CHcdwM-01092-00278496-00278651 working together with judges Telco usdV9CHcdwM-01093-00278652-00278945 operators and we have different courses usdV9CHcdwM-01094-00278946-00279106 um and we convened the Africa low-tech usdV9CHcdwM-01095-00279107-00279287 Festival which really focuses on usdV9CHcdwM-01096-00279288-00279515 capacity building to get Africa to the usdV9CHcdwM-01097-00279516-00279803 next level since 2000 since 2019 we've usdV9CHcdwM-01098-00279804-00280013 trained over 10 000 lawyers to get them usdV9CHcdwM-01099-00280014-00280175 to really understand this um the usdV9CHcdwM-01100-00280176-00280301 specific issues within artificial usdV9CHcdwM-01101-00280302-00280480 intelligence and so if you really need usdV9CHcdwM-01102-00280481-00280679 to read the reports on AI and Judicial usdV9CHcdwM-01103-00280680-00280858 Systems in Africa you can find it on usdV9CHcdwM-01104-00280859-00281080 lawyers hub.org I think it really offers usdV9CHcdwM-01105-00281081-00281410 great insights thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01106-00281411-00281639 thank you Linda so much for the Sprint usdV9CHcdwM-01107-00281640-00281903 presentation and highlighting the change usdV9CHcdwM-01108-00281904-00282180 in roles both of lawyers and of judges usdV9CHcdwM-01109-00282181-00282491 and also pointing out that automated usdV9CHcdwM-01110-00282492-00282658 processing should be overlooked by usdV9CHcdwM-01111-00282659-00282832 humans and the need of course for usdV9CHcdwM-01112-00282833-00283079 capacity building and we have all heard usdV9CHcdwM-01113-00283080-00283337 about unesco's work in this domain we usdV9CHcdwM-01114-00283338-00283630 will hear now more about this from our usdV9CHcdwM-01115-00283631-00283817 colleague my colleague our colleague Mr usdV9CHcdwM-01116-00283818-00284123 Sacco Ito who's UNESCO CA advice CI usdV9CHcdwM-01117-00284124-00284356 advisor a regional advisor for usdV9CHcdwM-01118-00284357-00284508 sub-Saharan Africa usdV9CHcdwM-01119-00284509-00284801 and your work you're based in Nairobi usdV9CHcdwM-01120-00284802-00284956 let me give you the floor usdV9CHcdwM-01121-00284957-00285173 thank you Cedric and I will be really usdV9CHcdwM-01122-00285174-00285419 brief for the sake of time and I will be usdV9CHcdwM-01123-00285420-00285617 repeating some of the points already usdV9CHcdwM-01124-00285618-00285887 that has been raised by the panelists usdV9CHcdwM-01125-00285888-00286127 but also by the introduction of our usdV9CHcdwM-01126-00286128-00286349 assistant director general for usdV9CHcdwM-01127-00286350-00286630 communication and information but UNESCO usdV9CHcdwM-01128-00286631-00287003 has undertaken in 2021 the need usdV9CHcdwM-01129-00287004-00287453 assessment survey on AI for Africa and usdV9CHcdwM-01130-00287454-00287687 one of the the most important usdV9CHcdwM-01131-00287688-00287956 recommendation arising from that survey usdV9CHcdwM-01132-00287957-00288280 is the need for capacity building for AI usdV9CHcdwM-01133-00288281-00288408 governance usdV9CHcdwM-01134-00288409-00288791 within the executive legislative but usdV9CHcdwM-01135-00288792-00289141 also the Judiciary so that's why usdV9CHcdwM-01136-00289142-00289380 as our usdV9CHcdwM-01137-00289381-00289745 adg mentioned we we have a project that usdV9CHcdwM-01138-00289746-00289943 is called judges initiative where we usdV9CHcdwM-01139-00289944-00290171 train over 24 usdV9CHcdwM-01140-00290172-00290387 000 judges on the international usdV9CHcdwM-01141-00290388-00290632 standards of freedom of expression and usdV9CHcdwM-01142-00290633-00290921 the safety of journalists and we added a usdV9CHcdwM-01143-00290922-00291184 new model video on AI and the rule of usdV9CHcdwM-01144-00291185-00291605 law and we had a first pilot training of usdV9CHcdwM-01145-00291606-00291797 that module which was a physical usdV9CHcdwM-01146-00291798-00292127 training with the eastern African court usdV9CHcdwM-01147-00292128-00292597 of justice very recently in in September usdV9CHcdwM-01148-00292598-00292889 to highlight you know what our previous usdV9CHcdwM-01149-00292890-00293134 speakers mentioned what are the benefit usdV9CHcdwM-01150-00293135-00293401 in adopting AI in usdV9CHcdwM-01151-00293402-00293734 Injustice system but also what are the usdV9CHcdwM-01152-00293735-00294227 risks Associated by integrating AI in usdV9CHcdwM-01153-00294228-00294473 the system including the implication to usdV9CHcdwM-01154-00294474-00294841 human right and the the training was usdV9CHcdwM-01155-00294842-00295282 extremely successful because first AI is usdV9CHcdwM-01156-00295283-00295571 being used in judicial processes by usdV9CHcdwM-01157-00295572-00295955 already several quoted in usdV9CHcdwM-01158-00295956-00296315 in the world but a lot of cases relating usdV9CHcdwM-01159-00296316-00296615 to AI has been taken to the court usdV9CHcdwM-01160-00296616-00296867 because this is an area where we still usdV9CHcdwM-01161-00296868-00297293 do not have a regulations on the use so usdV9CHcdwM-01162-00297294-00297556 UNESCO will be continuing this uh usdV9CHcdwM-01163-00297557-00297910 capacity building programs and uh we usdV9CHcdwM-01164-00297911-00298229 will be also working with the usdV9CHcdwM-01165-00298230-00298510 um with the African code on human and usdV9CHcdwM-01166-00298511-00298860 people's right and also the ecowas code usdV9CHcdwM-01167-00298861-00299141 and lastly another point that I wanted usdV9CHcdwM-01168-00299142-00299429 to mention in addition to this capacity usdV9CHcdwM-01169-00299430-00299795 building for AI in Africa and I I think usdV9CHcdwM-01170-00299796-00300077 my previous our previous panelists are usdV9CHcdwM-01171-00300078-00300503 also erased that we hold a regional usdV9CHcdwM-01172-00300504-00300815 thousand African Forum on AI in usdV9CHcdwM-01173-00300816-00301175 September this year and the The Forum usdV9CHcdwM-01174-00301176-00301499 was the first Forum to build public usdV9CHcdwM-01175-00301500-00301787 Awareness on the technical dimension of usdV9CHcdwM-01176-00301788-00302045 AI but also on the ethical and human usdV9CHcdwM-01177-00302046-00302363 right Dimension and building also the usdV9CHcdwM-01178-00302364-00302621 ownership and the leadership of African usdV9CHcdwM-01179-00302622-00302860 countries on these Technologies usdV9CHcdwM-01180-00302861-00303232 and one of the key outcomes so in usdV9CHcdwM-01181-00303233-00303503 relations to the uh in addition to the usdV9CHcdwM-01182-00303504-00303713 capacity building that has been raised usdV9CHcdwM-01183-00303714-00304030 uh in the outcome document which is usdV9CHcdwM-01184-00304031-00304360 available like windock declarations usdV9CHcdwM-01185-00304361-00304769 is uh the needs for uh decolonize the usdV9CHcdwM-01186-00304770-00305093 data set on AI because currently the AI usdV9CHcdwM-01187-00305094-00305479 Technologies rely on low quality and usdV9CHcdwM-01188-00305480-00305782 non-representative data from African usdV9CHcdwM-01189-00305783-00306143 countries with limited data on local usdV9CHcdwM-01190-00306144-00306419 languages which do not reflect over usdV9CHcdwM-01191-00306420-00306553 thousands of usdV9CHcdwM-01192-00306554-00306910 languages that are being used in Africa usdV9CHcdwM-01193-00306911-00307477 so there is a need to work more on data usdV9CHcdwM-01194-00307478-00307763 decolonizations and ownership in usdV9CHcdwM-01195-00307764-00307979 addition to capacity building usdV9CHcdwM-01196-00307980-00308429 thank you very much usdV9CHcdwM-01197-00308430-00308747 thank you miseko now I hand over the usdV9CHcdwM-01198-00308748-00308999 floor to participants here in the room usdV9CHcdwM-01199-00309000-00309293 you please raise your hand if you want usdV9CHcdwM-01200-00309294-00309551 to speak have a question and want to usdV9CHcdwM-01201-00309552-00309865 intervene and the same for people online usdV9CHcdwM-01202-00309866-00310397 please do raise your hands and or put a usdV9CHcdwM-01203-00310398-00310565 question into the chat usdV9CHcdwM-01204-00310566-00310813 thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01205-00310814-00311575 thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01206-00311576-00311945 so please introduce yourself and then usdV9CHcdwM-01207-00311946-00312515 we'll listen to you usdV9CHcdwM-01208-00312516-00312821 okay thank you my name is usdV9CHcdwM-01209-00312822-00313204 my name is usdV9CHcdwM-01210-00313205-00313475 I am a vice president for federal first usdV9CHcdwM-01211-00313476-00313649 and science court and the spokesperson usdV9CHcdwM-01212-00313650-00313763 for usdV9CHcdwM-01213-00313764-00314153 Ethiopian Federal courses and the usdV9CHcdwM-01214-00314154-00314497 today's presentation the panelists it is usdV9CHcdwM-01215-00314498-00314860 highly highly related with uh Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-01216-00314861-00315173 and as you know it was a Judiciary is a usdV9CHcdwM-01217-00315174-00315329 conventional an international usdV9CHcdwM-01218-00315330-00315629 institutions therefore I feel that we usdV9CHcdwM-01219-00315630-00316169 can adopt and adapt some of the AI and usdV9CHcdwM-01220-00316170-00316597 digital products to our court system usdV9CHcdwM-01221-00316598-00317065 having said that we in Ethiopia have usdV9CHcdwM-01222-00317066-00317530 also illegal framework that helps us to usdV9CHcdwM-01223-00317531-00317945 use Ai and digital products to entertain usdV9CHcdwM-01224-00317946-00318108 cases usdV9CHcdwM-01225-00318109-00318277 but usdV9CHcdwM-01226-00318278-00318760 I feel that the experience of Nigeria usdV9CHcdwM-01227-00318761-00319180 and India is a telling one I think we usdV9CHcdwM-01228-00319181-00319458 can learn from them usdV9CHcdwM-01229-00319459-00319691 and having said that there are some usdV9CHcdwM-01230-00319692-00319897 things that I want to shade usdV9CHcdwM-01231-00319898-00320254 this AI how we need to use it in our usdV9CHcdwM-01232-00320255-00320584 Code system in the Justice systems and I usdV9CHcdwM-01233-00320585-00320873 think the data that we are going to to usdV9CHcdwM-01234-00320874-00321125 use that we are going to inculcate in usdV9CHcdwM-01235-00321126-00321527 our GSS system should be protected usdV9CHcdwM-01236-00321528-00321832 because those datas are inextractably usdV9CHcdwM-01237-00321833-00322145 linked with rights with the interests usdV9CHcdwM-01238-00322146-00322606 with live with a property of the usdV9CHcdwM-01239-00322607-00322877 litigants therefore the cyber security usdV9CHcdwM-01240-00322878-00323356 the data security that we are use that usdV9CHcdwM-01241-00323357-00323675 we are launching that we are installing usdV9CHcdwM-01242-00323676-00323915 in our court system should be highly usdV9CHcdwM-01243-00323916-00324173 protected that is the first thing that I usdV9CHcdwM-01244-00324174-00324337 want to add the second one is usdV9CHcdwM-01245-00324338-00324575 interoperability is also I think is very usdV9CHcdwM-01246-00324576-00324797 important usdV9CHcdwM-01247-00324798-00325771 foreign usdV9CHcdwM-01248-00325772-00326182 because if the Judiciary is having its usdV9CHcdwM-01249-00326183-00326567 own system ICC ICT system and the police usdV9CHcdwM-01250-00326568-00326867 and the prosecution of his uh prison usdV9CHcdwM-01251-00326868-00327058 Administration then it's it's it's it's usdV9CHcdwM-01252-00327059-00327371 not it's going to be a fragmented one usdV9CHcdwM-01253-00327372-00327808 therefore having an interoperable AI usdV9CHcdwM-01254-00327809-00328108 system or the ICT system is I think is usdV9CHcdwM-01255-00328109-00328408 very critical what we have is like a usdV9CHcdwM-01256-00328409-00328606 fragmented one in piece one the court usdV9CHcdwM-01257-00328607-00328882 would come of its own its own projects usdV9CHcdwM-01258-00328883-00329056 and the judicial the others will come usdV9CHcdwM-01259-00329057-00329237 with your with their own that's I think usdV9CHcdwM-01260-00329238-00329573 is a problem and the third one that I usdV9CHcdwM-01261-00329574-00329830 want to to add is that usdV9CHcdwM-01262-00329831-00330173 uh usdV9CHcdwM-01263-00330174-00330395 attitude is I think one of the problem usdV9CHcdwM-01264-00330396-00330725 is that we have in in our in our in our usdV9CHcdwM-01265-00330726-00330929 not only the Ethiopian Judiciary but usdV9CHcdwM-01266-00330930-00331204 also internationally because if you want usdV9CHcdwM-01267-00331205-00331475 to to to to to to come up with a new usdV9CHcdwM-01268-00331476-00331858 project with a new ICT product then uh usdV9CHcdwM-01269-00331859-00332008 the usdV9CHcdwM-01270-00332009-00332230 the court as it is a conservative usdV9CHcdwM-01271-00332231-00332508 institution they say that we want to usdV9CHcdwM-01272-00332509-00332753 carry out our responsibilities our usdV9CHcdwM-01273-00332754-00332927 businesses with the previous laws usdV9CHcdwM-01274-00332928-00333089 therefore artificial changes I think usdV9CHcdwM-01275-00333090-00333329 very important the final point the final usdV9CHcdwM-01276-00333330-00333604 point I want to raise is that uh UNESCO usdV9CHcdwM-01277-00333605-00333823 uh is uh usdV9CHcdwM-01278-00333824-00334115 giving different trainings for for for usdV9CHcdwM-01279-00334116-00334319 for lawyers for judges usdV9CHcdwM-01280-00334320-00334577 there is a big appetite here in Ethiopia usdV9CHcdwM-01281-00334578-00334799 for the federal courts for the federal usdV9CHcdwM-01282-00334800-00335279 judges we want to use AI we want to to usdV9CHcdwM-01283-00335280-00335579 to catch up with cyber Justice to do usdV9CHcdwM-01284-00335580-00335830 that we need to create an appetite in usdV9CHcdwM-01285-00335831-00336101 our churches to do that I think giving a usdV9CHcdwM-01286-00336102-00336353 training is is very important therefore usdV9CHcdwM-01287-00336354-00336695 as a federal High Court president his usdV9CHcdwM-01288-00336696-00336887 Excellency Brandon mascal is also here usdV9CHcdwM-01289-00336888-00337145 and I am also representing the Federal usdV9CHcdwM-01290-00337146-00337379 First and science Court I think we can usdV9CHcdwM-01291-00337380-00337649 we can discuss later in how to to work usdV9CHcdwM-01292-00337650-00338008 together thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01293-00338009-00338267 thank you Mr Vice President we will have usdV9CHcdwM-01294-00338268-00338554 now a first in uh over there are several usdV9CHcdwM-01295-00338555-00338753 people I will ask you to please keep it usdV9CHcdwM-01296-00338754-00339215 caught even the short I um I really love usdV9CHcdwM-01297-00339216-00339401 the interventions would have loved a lot usdV9CHcdwM-01298-00339402-00339677 to say and think Michael panelists too usdV9CHcdwM-01299-00339678-00339904 um but let's keep it short so that a few usdV9CHcdwM-01300-00339905-00340073 more people can intervene I want to usdV9CHcdwM-01301-00340074-00340360 First somebody online raise the hand we usdV9CHcdwM-01302-00340361-00340613 will try to connect Nicholas and Lennon usdV9CHcdwM-01303-00340614-00340949 and none and then it's cut uh for me the usdV9CHcdwM-01304-00340950-00341153 name if we can hear you at the distance usdV9CHcdwM-01305-00341154-00341387 please intervene usdV9CHcdwM-01306-00341388-00341723 yes usdV9CHcdwM-01307-00341724-00342047 okay thank you very much so I just usdV9CHcdwM-01308-00342048-00342304 wanted to say that there are obvious usdV9CHcdwM-01309-00342305-00342773 benefits for the adoption of AI but my usdV9CHcdwM-01310-00342774-00343127 caution particularly within Africa is usdV9CHcdwM-01311-00343128-00343295 that we should be careful not to change usdV9CHcdwM-01312-00343296-00343534 the buzzword without laying the usdV9CHcdwM-01313-00343535-00343865 foundational structures for it and I say usdV9CHcdwM-01314-00343866-00344045 this usdV9CHcdwM-01315-00344046-00344543 I say this because uh in 2019 Ghana usdV9CHcdwM-01316-00344544-00344813 launched an e-justice system which was usdV9CHcdwM-01317-00344814-00345047 supposed to facilitate filing and make usdV9CHcdwM-01318-00345048-00345406 court cases run faster but in adopting usdV9CHcdwM-01319-00345407-00345563 the system usdV9CHcdwM-01320-00345564-00345791 only one Courthouse usdV9CHcdwM-01321-00345792-00346103 provided the infrastructure necessary to usdV9CHcdwM-01322-00346104-00346295 do the scanners and the filings of the usdV9CHcdwM-01323-00346296-00346582 cases and so now you actually spend more usdV9CHcdwM-01324-00346583-00346882 time filing and getting your keys to the usdV9CHcdwM-01325-00346883-00347165 courts than the manual system used to usdV9CHcdwM-01326-00347166-00347495 operate so it is important we get the usdV9CHcdwM-01327-00347496-00347758 foundational structures right so that usdV9CHcdwM-01328-00347759-00347999 when the system falls into it it will usdV9CHcdwM-01329-00348000-00348269 press seamlessly otherwise we get a usdV9CHcdwM-01330-00348270-00348479 counter effective result if we just usdV9CHcdwM-01331-00348480-00348689 chase the buzzword of artificial usdV9CHcdwM-01332-00348690-00349667 intelligence in the sector thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01333-00349668-00349847 and thank you so much for this usdV9CHcdwM-01334-00349848-00350051 intervention I think many people will usdV9CHcdwM-01335-00350052-00350308 agree with your point and have some usdV9CHcdwM-01336-00350309-00350549 experiences now I think another person usdV9CHcdwM-01337-00350550-00350854 another two wounded to intervene please usdV9CHcdwM-01338-00350855-00351034 um Professor Michael said still back usdV9CHcdwM-01339-00351035-00351221 with me oh no can you please hand over usdV9CHcdwM-01340-00351222-00352523 the mic thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01341-00352524-00353015 thank you very much usdV9CHcdwM-01342-00353016-00353087 um usdV9CHcdwM-01343-00353088-00353308 executive director of the Ghana domain usdV9CHcdwM-01344-00353309-00353453 name registry usdV9CHcdwM-01345-00353454-00353813 and chair of the Ghana igf usdV9CHcdwM-01346-00353814-00354101 um I just have three points to make I usdV9CHcdwM-01347-00354102-00354334 came here because I wanted to I was usdV9CHcdwM-01348-00354335-00354508 curious about the use of artificial usdV9CHcdwM-01349-00354509-00354647 intelligence usdV9CHcdwM-01350-00354648-00354869 as related to Justice usdV9CHcdwM-01351-00354870-00355217 a lot of representation has been usdV9CHcdwM-01352-00355218-00355504 between digitalization which is separate usdV9CHcdwM-01353-00355505-00355619 from usdV9CHcdwM-01354-00355620-00355810 what I consider to be artificial usdV9CHcdwM-01355-00355811-00356069 intelligence which is basically machines usdV9CHcdwM-01356-00356070-00356375 doing the work of humans as far as they usdV9CHcdwM-01357-00356376-00356741 can go so I want to know whether we have usdV9CHcdwM-01358-00356742-00356956 any intent of separating usdV9CHcdwM-01359-00356957-00357227 those two concepts or we're going to be usdV9CHcdwM-01360-00357228-00357347 discussing them usdV9CHcdwM-01361-00357348-00357491 together usdV9CHcdwM-01362-00357492-00357760 uh and and if so how how do we do that usdV9CHcdwM-01363-00357761-00358013 and whether is a better approach the usdV9CHcdwM-01364-00358014-00358265 second thing is um usdV9CHcdwM-01365-00358266-00358649 I'm very excited to see that AI can be usdV9CHcdwM-01366-00358650-00359099 used to speed up the judicial processes usdV9CHcdwM-01367-00359100-00359495 but um I'm a little concerned that uh usdV9CHcdwM-01368-00359496-00359723 artificial intelligence can be used to usdV9CHcdwM-01369-00359724-00359897 make judgments usdV9CHcdwM-01370-00359898-00360119 because I don't even think that the usdV9CHcdwM-01371-00360120-00360437 problem of natural language processing usdV9CHcdwM-01372-00360438-00360832 has been solved I think that when it usdV9CHcdwM-01373-00360833-00361115 comes to a point where any AI can fully usdV9CHcdwM-01374-00361116-00361258 understand usdV9CHcdwM-01375-00361259-00361553 text and all these nuances that's when usdV9CHcdwM-01376-00361554-00361763 it can then now be asked to make a usdV9CHcdwM-01377-00361764-00361978 judgment because even today if you put usdV9CHcdwM-01378-00361979-00362195 words in Google to translate from one usdV9CHcdwM-01379-00362196-00362382 language to the other it still makes usdV9CHcdwM-01380-00362383-00362656 small mistakes usdV9CHcdwM-01381-00362657-00362945 and it and the third one is uh that uh usdV9CHcdwM-01382-00362946-00363215 ashwaria talked about usdV9CHcdwM-01383-00363216-00363547 the fact that before systems can be used usdV9CHcdwM-01384-00363548-00363989 to make judgments they have to do a lot usdV9CHcdwM-01385-00363990-00364282 of test consultation and I want to add usdV9CHcdwM-01386-00364283-00364571 that it's also a matter of having very usdV9CHcdwM-01387-00364572-00364673 high usdV9CHcdwM-01388-00364674-00364913 standards and regulations for software usdV9CHcdwM-01389-00364914-00365182 testing because a lot of software can be usdV9CHcdwM-01390-00365183-00365375 written and deployed usdV9CHcdwM-01391-00365376-00365687 and nobody knows what systems Assurance usdV9CHcdwM-01392-00365688-00366047 testing rigorous tests have been done usdV9CHcdwM-01393-00366048-00366280 before is used because usdV9CHcdwM-01394-00366281-00366658 if a software is used to judge cases is usdV9CHcdwM-01395-00366659-00366949 tested on a lot of dummy cases a lot of usdV9CHcdwM-01396-00366950-00367210 false positives are definitely going to usdV9CHcdwM-01397-00367211-00367451 come out so it's a matter of software usdV9CHcdwM-01398-00367452-00368158 testing regulation as well thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01399-00368159-00368471 I know we're a little bit over time but usdV9CHcdwM-01400-00368472-00368782 I will want to let it gives it I'm just usdV9CHcdwM-01401-00368783-00369125 uh to the first person here just as it usdV9CHcdwM-01402-00369126-00369347 with regards to the session I want to usdV9CHcdwM-01403-00369348-00369653 say something that of course we have a usdV9CHcdwM-01404-00369654-00369875 large definition of AI and your rights usdV9CHcdwM-01405-00369876-00370025 are sometimes between digital usdV9CHcdwM-01406-00370026-00370234 digitalization digital transformation usdV9CHcdwM-01407-00370235-00370541 and they are they are you know usdV9CHcdwM-01408-00370542-00370823 overlapping areas but we had a number of usdV9CHcdwM-01409-00370824-00371080 examples where it was really AI if we usdV9CHcdwM-01410-00371081-00371297 were speaking about AI assisted document usdV9CHcdwM-01411-00371298-00371741 review Mr Lucas mentioned that but also usdV9CHcdwM-01412-00371742-00371963 the other cases and examples from Miss usdV9CHcdwM-01413-00371964-00372245 Garuda on accountability and Trust were usdV9CHcdwM-01414-00372246-00372425 really AI related usdV9CHcdwM-01415-00372426-00372563 um usdV9CHcdwM-01416-00372564-00372797 thank you very much my name is Brian usdV9CHcdwM-01417-00372798-00373043 miscar I'm from here Ethiopia Federal usdV9CHcdwM-01418-00373044-00373380 High Court president and my colleague usdV9CHcdwM-01419-00373381-00374010 vice president for federal foreign usdV9CHcdwM-01420-00374011-00374410 explained earlier we have I just first usdV9CHcdwM-01421-00374411-00374680 would like to thank you for your usdV9CHcdwM-01422-00374681-00374980 wonderful presentations really the usdV9CHcdwM-01423-00374981-00375130 Nigerian experience the Indian usdV9CHcdwM-01424-00375131-00375373 experience that are usdV9CHcdwM-01425-00375374-00375637 inspiring us usdV9CHcdwM-01426-00375638-00376025 my reflection is very short and it's usdV9CHcdwM-01427-00376026-00376410 clear that just to reflect that we have usdV9CHcdwM-01428-00376411-00376853 high interest in introducing using usdV9CHcdwM-01429-00376854-00377110 Technologies the the Ethiopian usdV9CHcdwM-01430-00377111-00377425 government in general and institutions usdV9CHcdwM-01431-00377426-00377791 artificial Ethiopian artificial in usdV9CHcdwM-01432-00377792-00378173 Intelligence Center and the Judiciary usdV9CHcdwM-01433-00378174-00378480 Federal Judiciary is highly interested usdV9CHcdwM-01434-00378481-00378887 in modernizing the Judiciary the service usdV9CHcdwM-01435-00378888-00379003 system usdV9CHcdwM-01436-00379004-00379349 so without technology there is no access usdV9CHcdwM-01437-00379350-00379715 to Justice access to Justice's rights of usdV9CHcdwM-01438-00379716-00380182 human being so we cannot ensure unless usdV9CHcdwM-01439-00380183-00380608 we use these Technologies as we used to usdV9CHcdwM-01440-00380609-00380878 deliver Justice manually it is going to usdV9CHcdwM-01441-00380879-00381353 take time there is delays as you all usdV9CHcdwM-01442-00381354-00381743 know Justice delays Justice denial we usdV9CHcdwM-01443-00381744-00382091 don't have any excuses not to use this usdV9CHcdwM-01444-00382092-00382554 Technologies because technology is usdV9CHcdwM-01445-00382555-00383045 timely efficiently helps to deliver just usdV9CHcdwM-01446-00383046-00383153 this one usdV9CHcdwM-01447-00383154-00383304 really usdV9CHcdwM-01448-00383305-00383567 I just want to emphasis let us work usdV9CHcdwM-01449-00383568-00383832 together usdV9CHcdwM-01450-00383833-00384313 population is 120 million people usdV9CHcdwM-01451-00384314-00384563 if you are going to reach this all usdV9CHcdwM-01452-00384564-00384804 people we used to usdV9CHcdwM-01453-00384805-00385097 put in place Technologies relevant usdV9CHcdwM-01454-00385098-00385319 Technologies technologies have been usdV9CHcdwM-01455-00385320-00385558 proven themselves they are efficient usdV9CHcdwM-01456-00385559-00385769 elsewhere why not here usdV9CHcdwM-01457-00385770-00386032 every the global communities human being usdV9CHcdwM-01458-00386033-00386406 is everywhere human being so usdV9CHcdwM-01459-00386407-00386782 we don't give some excuses usdV9CHcdwM-01460-00386783-00387143 but we need to make sure scale up the usdV9CHcdwM-01461-00387144-00387419 best practices as well just my emphasis usdV9CHcdwM-01462-00387420-00387677 is let us work together let us usdV9CHcdwM-01463-00387678-00388027 collaborate let us build capacity let us usdV9CHcdwM-01464-00388028-00388421 exchange experiences as all my usdV9CHcdwM-01465-00388422-00388684 reflection thank you very much and thank usdV9CHcdwM-01466-00388685-00388967 you so much Mr President hiker to join usdV9CHcdwM-01467-00388968-00389219 the session and we of course very happy usdV9CHcdwM-01468-00389220-00389501 to join forces and work together and for usdV9CHcdwM-01469-00389502-00389663 your interest in joining now I will give usdV9CHcdwM-01470-00389664-00389884 the floor very rapidly in a one or two usdV9CHcdwM-01471-00389885-00390197 minute you can respond by our panelists usdV9CHcdwM-01472-00390198-00390887 I hand over the floor first usdV9CHcdwM-01473-00390888-00391006 um thank you very much for the questions usdV9CHcdwM-01474-00391007-00391343 my name is Linda bonyo from Kenya and um usdV9CHcdwM-01475-00391344-00391541 I think I'm just going to say uh the usdV9CHcdwM-01476-00391542-00391727 points on interoperability is really usdV9CHcdwM-01477-00391728-00392008 important and I think that the Justice usdV9CHcdwM-01478-00392009-00392339 sector has been removed from efforts usdV9CHcdwM-01479-00392340-00392651 around digital policy and that's I think usdV9CHcdwM-01480-00392652-00392801 that's the missing link within the usdV9CHcdwM-01481-00392802-00393047 Justice sector we over focus on what's usdV9CHcdwM-01482-00393048-00393232 happening in the Judiciary but then we usdV9CHcdwM-01483-00393233-00393527 are not engaged on how do we get usdV9CHcdwM-01484-00393528-00393778 meaningful access and I think igf is a usdV9CHcdwM-01485-00393779-00393928 really great platform to bring those two usdV9CHcdwM-01486-00393929-00394193 ideas on Justice Innovation but then usdV9CHcdwM-01487-00394194-00394373 also digital policy and that's the Gap usdV9CHcdwM-01488-00394374-00394499 that the lawyers have been really usdV9CHcdwM-01489-00394500-00394751 striving to to get to and when we talk usdV9CHcdwM-01490-00394752-00394919 about interoperability usdV9CHcdwM-01491-00394920-00395027 sorry usdV9CHcdwM-01492-00395028-00395237 there's a lot of discussions that are usdV9CHcdwM-01493-00395238-00395495 siled judiciaries on its own lawyers on usdV9CHcdwM-01494-00395496-00395693 their own and the digital policy usdV9CHcdwM-01495-00395694-00395873 movement is actually on its own I think usdV9CHcdwM-01496-00395874-00396053 there needs to be are speaking together usdV9CHcdwM-01497-00396054-00396256 and what I talked about usdV9CHcdwM-01498-00396257-00396532 um around payments on one side and usdV9CHcdwM-01499-00396533-00396773 looking at data on the other side they usdV9CHcdwM-01500-00396774-00396965 all need to speak to each other usdV9CHcdwM-01501-00396966-00397295 and then I think finally I think usdV9CHcdwM-01502-00397296-00397523 we didn't talk too much about AI usdV9CHcdwM-01503-00397524-00397775 especially myself because of the stage usdV9CHcdwM-01504-00397776-00399078 of development usdV9CHcdwM-01505-00399079-00399430 okay uh I'm gonna give it back to her usdV9CHcdwM-01506-00399431-00399706 once once she's had some water I think usdV9CHcdwM-01507-00399707-00399875 um no I just wanted to I guess usdV9CHcdwM-01508-00399876-00400049 re-emphasize uh one of the points that usdV9CHcdwM-01509-00400050-00400217 was made which is with respect to the usdV9CHcdwM-01510-00400218-00400432 need for data security and more usdV9CHcdwM-01511-00400433-00400678 specifically at least the way that I usdV9CHcdwM-01512-00400679-00400906 think about it uh the importance of usdV9CHcdwM-01513-00400907-00401147 robust data protection laws uh around usdV9CHcdwM-01514-00401148-00401501 around any information that we want to usdV9CHcdwM-01515-00401502-00401656 um that we want to deploy in the usdV9CHcdwM-01516-00401657-00401849 Judiciary because of the sensitivity of usdV9CHcdwM-01517-00401850-00402047 the information and the impact of Rights usdV9CHcdwM-01518-00402048-00402275 on rights that it is likely to have so usdV9CHcdwM-01519-00402276-00402491 I'm just re-emphasizing that usdV9CHcdwM-01520-00402492-00402634 um I also just want I guess I was a usdV9CHcdwM-01521-00402635-00402821 little bit unclear on what interval usdV9CHcdwM-01522-00402822-00403025 operability would mean in this context usdV9CHcdwM-01523-00403026-00403163 because if you're talking about like usdV9CHcdwM-01524-00403164-00403517 more easy data sharing that again I usdV9CHcdwM-01525-00403518-00403667 think might need to I think we might usdV9CHcdwM-01526-00403668-00403871 need to assess how what levels of usdV9CHcdwM-01527-00403872-00404069 anonymization what data security usdV9CHcdwM-01528-00404070-00404302 practices Etc we have before we're able usdV9CHcdwM-01529-00404303-00404567 to share across across different sectors usdV9CHcdwM-01530-00404568-00404795 of the government usdV9CHcdwM-01531-00404796-00405004 but yes now I can see that you've had usdV9CHcdwM-01532-00405005-00405149 some water usdV9CHcdwM-01533-00405150-00405425 okay the person's bottle refused to open usdV9CHcdwM-01534-00405426-00405634 my enemy enemies in my Village are usdV9CHcdwM-01535-00405635-00405893 working too hard but I just want to say usdV9CHcdwM-01536-00405894-00406013 one last comment I think on usdV9CHcdwM-01537-00406014-00406265 interoperability usdV9CHcdwM-01538-00406266-00406534 um if you study the Justice sector it's usdV9CHcdwM-01539-00406535-00406751 not working in coherence especially usdV9CHcdwM-01540-00406752-00407027 around around platforms like we are usdV9CHcdwM-01541-00407028-00407182 trying to platformize everything that's usdV9CHcdwM-01542-00407183-00407399 happening and if you look at the example usdV9CHcdwM-01543-00407400-00407632 of I'll give an example usdV9CHcdwM-01544-00407633-00407860 um about Nigeria and what low Pavilion usdV9CHcdwM-01545-00407861-00408119 is doing that they're way ahead what the usdV9CHcdwM-01546-00408120-00408401 Judiciary is doing and there's a need as usdV9CHcdwM-01547-00408402-00408730 as prosecutors are building as lawyers usdV9CHcdwM-01548-00408731-00408893 are building Case Management Systems bus usdV9CHcdwM-01549-00408894-00409067 positions are working together usdV9CHcdwM-01550-00409068-00409252 everything I think needs to fit into usdV9CHcdwM-01551-00409253-00409528 each other and then you know within the usdV9CHcdwM-01552-00409529-00409691 Justice sector look at issues of digital usdV9CHcdwM-01553-00409692-00409924 identity together digital payments usdV9CHcdwM-01554-00409925-00410093 together these conversation is actually usdV9CHcdwM-01555-00410093-00410314 happening outside the judicial judicial usdV9CHcdwM-01556-00410316-00410489 system but then we really haven't caught usdV9CHcdwM-01557-00410489-00410668 up on those conversations usdV9CHcdwM-01558-00410669-00410813 um and so I think interpretability in usdV9CHcdwM-01559-00410814-00410963 that case means speaking to each other usdV9CHcdwM-01560-00410964-00411137 without necessarily sharing data and I usdV9CHcdwM-01561-00411138-00411389 think Estonia is a great example on how usdV9CHcdwM-01562-00411389-00411580 you can just have a Gateway rather than usdV9CHcdwM-01563-00411581-00411766 really having everybody you know share usdV9CHcdwM-01564-00411767-00411941 the same sort of data um and then usdV9CHcdwM-01565-00411942-00412318 platformize everything thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01566-00412319-00412559 thank you to both of you I will now give usdV9CHcdwM-01567-00412560-00413005 Walter the opportunity to Mr early urugu usdV9CHcdwM-01568-00413006-00413351 to intervene at the distance one minute usdV9CHcdwM-01569-00413352-00414449 please usdV9CHcdwM-01570-00414450-00415210 I think that my your mic is muted yes usdV9CHcdwM-01571-00415212-00415768 now it should be possible usdV9CHcdwM-01572-00415769-00416039 oh okay yeah sorry usdV9CHcdwM-01573-00416039-00416314 um the horse needed to allow me to Omit usdV9CHcdwM-01574-00416316-00416639 myself okay thank you very much I think usdV9CHcdwM-01575-00416639-00416897 um Linda's already um spoken on the usdV9CHcdwM-01576-00416897-00417172 video of inter probability and I can't usdV9CHcdwM-01577-00417173-00417437 quite I can't agree more usdV9CHcdwM-01578-00417438-00417593 um because usdV9CHcdwM-01579-00417593-00417887 it's important that we consider all usdV9CHcdwM-01580-00417888-00418139 these stakeholders of the Justice sector usdV9CHcdwM-01581-00418139-00418468 most discussions on technology and usdV9CHcdwM-01582-00418469-00418684 justice system takes into consideration usdV9CHcdwM-01583-00418685-00419057 the judges and the lawyers but the usdV9CHcdwM-01584-00419058-00419260 critical stakeholder that's the common usdV9CHcdwM-01585-00419262-00419591 man on the streets is usually left out usdV9CHcdwM-01586-00419592-00419947 of these discussion so I I also think usdV9CHcdwM-01587-00419947-00420239 that the interoperability should link usdV9CHcdwM-01588-00420239-00420509 the three stakeholders so I really agree usdV9CHcdwM-01589-00420510-00420725 with Linda that we should platformize it usdV9CHcdwM-01590-00420726-00420941 it should it should be a system where usdV9CHcdwM-01591-00420942-00421301 all the three stakeholders have access usdV9CHcdwM-01592-00421302-00421505 to Justice the lawyers can work usdV9CHcdwM-01593-00421506-00421727 seamlessly connect with the course the usdV9CHcdwM-01594-00421728-00421835 court can usdV9CHcdwM-01595-00421835-00422045 um access data and then the general usdV9CHcdwM-01596-00422046-00422327 populace can also follow through with usdV9CHcdwM-01597-00422328-00422513 litigation with online usdV9CHcdwM-01598-00422514-00422741 um we will discuss the resolution I usdV9CHcdwM-01599-00422742-00422945 think that's the way to go and how usdV9CHcdwM-01600-00422946-00423185 artificial intelligence will usdV9CHcdwM-01601-00423185-00423413 um help in galvanizing all this together usdV9CHcdwM-01602-00423414-00423647 for us at local and that's really what usdV9CHcdwM-01603-00423647-00423863 we are concentrating on now how the usdV9CHcdwM-01604-00423864-00424181 common man can have easy access to usdV9CHcdwM-01605-00424182-00424529 Justice can supply information to the usdV9CHcdwM-01606-00424530-00424835 judicial system yes it's going to be a usdV9CHcdwM-01607-00424835-00424918 lot it's going to be a lot of usdV9CHcdwM-01608-00424919-00425177 information but then because of actual usdV9CHcdwM-01609-00425178-00425410 intelligence the justice and the judges usdV9CHcdwM-01610-00425412-00425609 can easily sift through this information usdV9CHcdwM-01611-00425610-00425855 and come up with their decisions those usdV9CHcdwM-01612-00425856-00426047 are the things that interesting to us usdV9CHcdwM-01613-00426047-00426239 that we're actually working on thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01614-00426239-00426695 very much thank you so much usdV9CHcdwM-01615-00426696-00426995 oh yes uh just a very briefly to share usdV9CHcdwM-01616-00426996-00427259 that uh yes we very much welcome a usdV9CHcdwM-01617-00427260-00427487 collaboration with the federal high usdV9CHcdwM-01618-00427488-00427733 court of Ethiopia so we can exchange usdV9CHcdwM-01619-00427734-00428020 contact after that and I will not be usdV9CHcdwM-01620-00428021-00428263 commenting on the interoperability but usdV9CHcdwM-01621-00428264-00428614 unesco's approach uh relating to the AI usdV9CHcdwM-01622-00428615-00428933 is to raise public awareness building usdV9CHcdwM-01623-00428934-00429268 capacity on the risks and benefit of AI usdV9CHcdwM-01624-00429269-00429568 especially these implications to the usdV9CHcdwM-01625-00429569-00429887 human right and also addressing the data usdV9CHcdwM-01626-00429888-00430168 Gap that we have in Africa on technology usdV9CHcdwM-01627-00430169-00430570 development thank you very much usdV9CHcdwM-01628-00430571-00430859 well thank you so much I'm sorry I see usdV9CHcdwM-01629-00430860-00431020 that the more people have raised their usdV9CHcdwM-01630-00431021-00431207 hands online but we're already 15 usdV9CHcdwM-01631-00431208-00431464 minutes late so I'll be closing now usdV9CHcdwM-01632-00431465-00431699 um the session by thanking first the usdV9CHcdwM-01633-00431700-00431945 panelists online and and here in the usdV9CHcdwM-01634-00431946-00432053 room usdV9CHcdwM-01635-00432054-00432370 um the very active audience online also usdV9CHcdwM-01636-00432371-00432683 and and here in the audience also my usdV9CHcdwM-01637-00432684-00432905 colleague Charlene dutron who did an usdV9CHcdwM-01638-00432906-00433114 incredible job in putting this session usdV9CHcdwM-01639-00433115-00433283 together everyone here in the panel usdV9CHcdwM-01640-00433284-00433564 knows her well who has been working hard usdV9CHcdwM-01641-00433565-00433810 on this and I think now we know and usdV9CHcdwM-01642-00433812-00434063 understand better why digitalization and usdV9CHcdwM-01643-00434064-00434309 AI matter for the justice system on the usdV9CHcdwM-01644-00434310-00434622 continent but also on the globe usdV9CHcdwM-01645-00434623-00434963 we also learned about the the need about usdV9CHcdwM-01646-00434964-00435233 more capacity building for just a usdV9CHcdwM-01647-00435234-00435610 Judiciary for the Justice actors in this usdV9CHcdwM-01648-00435612-00435893 field and we will consider also the usdV9CHcdwM-01649-00435893-00436037 Lessons Learned in this and other usdV9CHcdwM-01650-00436038-00436283 occasions in designing a new training usdV9CHcdwM-01651-00436284-00436522 toolkit we are working on that now but usdV9CHcdwM-01652-00436523-00436739 in the mean time I invite all of you to usdV9CHcdwM-01653-00436739-00436907 register for the massive open online usdV9CHcdwM-01654-00436908-00437218 course on AI which we have which will usdV9CHcdwM-01655-00437219-00437453 give you a good start to on this topic usdV9CHcdwM-01656-00437454-00437710 if you haven't if you want more so thank usdV9CHcdwM-01657-00437712-00438016 you so much to all of you and usdV9CHcdwM-01658-00438017-00438257 um and I look forward to seeing and usdV9CHcdwM-01659-00438258-00439343 working with you in the future goodbye usdV9CHcdwM-01660-00439343-00439883 just uh uh I didn't see that I'm sorry I usdV9CHcdwM-01661-00439884-00440129 just closed but I I just now I think usdV9CHcdwM-01662-00440130-00440470 judge Dr bin has been able to join and usdV9CHcdwM-01663-00440471-00440651 we would like to list I would love to usdV9CHcdwM-01664-00440652-00440891 listen I mean and everybody's a free usdV9CHcdwM-01665-00440892-00441227 degree to to join me please usdV9CHcdwM-01666-00441228-00441466 um one or two minutes please after usdV9CHcdwM-01667-00441467-00441677 closing a little Delight here from you usdV9CHcdwM-01668-00441678-00441899 and judge Dr Win and I'm sorry we had usdV9CHcdwM-01669-00441900-00442049 the technical difficulties and I'm usdV9CHcdwM-01670-00442050-00443405 delighted that you're on now usdV9CHcdwM-01671-00443406-00443807 I think the The Voice is not clear usdV9CHcdwM-01672-00443808-00444118 the host has just okay hello everybody usdV9CHcdwM-01673-00444119-00444479 thank you very much I hope you can hear usdV9CHcdwM-01674-00444480-00444803 me very well thank you usdV9CHcdwM-01675-00444804-00445066 yeah I'm sorry I had some kind of usdV9CHcdwM-01676-00445067-00445363 Technology hiccup but usdV9CHcdwM-01677-00445364-00445525 luckily usdV9CHcdwM-01678-00445526-00445853 Celine has done a very good job and I'm usdV9CHcdwM-01679-00445854-00446195 online now I would say if you uh words usdV9CHcdwM-01680-00446196-00446491 because I have been given two minutes usdV9CHcdwM-01681-00446492-00446999 to say a word or two uh we uh I would usdV9CHcdwM-01682-00447000-00447497 say we have the potential of using AI in usdV9CHcdwM-01683-00447497-00447739 administration of justice usdV9CHcdwM-01684-00447739-00448085 and I think it's very useful because usdV9CHcdwM-01685-00448085-00448201 then usdV9CHcdwM-01686-00448202-00448601 Africa has a disadvantage of having many usdV9CHcdwM-01687-00448602-00448955 problems we have corruption we have a usdV9CHcdwM-01688-00448956-00449285 digital divide usdV9CHcdwM-01689-00449285-00449627 we also have very few uh usdV9CHcdwM-01690-00449628-00449887 judicial officers usdV9CHcdwM-01691-00449888-00450293 but the population is booming so then usdV9CHcdwM-01692-00450293-00450485 we can use AI usdV9CHcdwM-01693-00450485-00450833 to at least assist us in administration usdV9CHcdwM-01694-00450834-00450964 of justice usdV9CHcdwM-01695-00450965-00451235 how I would say for example in case usdV9CHcdwM-01696-00451235-00451583 management systems we could use AI for usdV9CHcdwM-01697-00451584-00451691 that usdV9CHcdwM-01698-00451692-00451991 and even in uh some of decision making usdV9CHcdwM-01699-00451992-00452368 at the Judiciary where you have like uh usdV9CHcdwM-01700-00452369-00452701 what we call uh small claims usdV9CHcdwM-01701-00452702-00453010 uh traffic cases for example some of the usdV9CHcdwM-01702-00453012-00453257 cases that do not really require many usdV9CHcdwM-01703-00453258-00453460 hours for trial that are not technical usdV9CHcdwM-01704-00453462-00453875 we can simply use AI for that usdV9CHcdwM-01705-00453876-00454193 uh of course I know in Tanzania for usdV9CHcdwM-01706-00454193-00454385 example we have recently procurity usdV9CHcdwM-01707-00454385-00454631 system for uh recording of Court usdV9CHcdwM-01708-00454632-00454909 proceedings and also trans usdV9CHcdwM-01709-00454910-00455237 transcribing those proceedings so this usdV9CHcdwM-01710-00455238-00455657 system will help us to do away with uh I usdV9CHcdwM-01711-00455658-00455914 mean handwriting I mean where you have usdV9CHcdwM-01712-00455915-00456143 to to write by hand all the proceedings usdV9CHcdwM-01713-00456143-00456395 so that now the technology could do that usdV9CHcdwM-01714-00456396-00456659 and that I think is fantastic usdV9CHcdwM-01715-00456660-00456983 uh however I have heard uh some of the usdV9CHcdwM-01716-00456984-00457253 speakers which I really subscribe to usdV9CHcdwM-01717-00457254-00457625 that we are very far from robotic judges usdV9CHcdwM-01718-00457626-00457931 uh we I mean at least in the foreseeable usdV9CHcdwM-01719-00457932-00458266 future this is not easy unless uh we usdV9CHcdwM-01720-00458267-00458710 applied for uh some uh limited cases usdV9CHcdwM-01721-00458712-00458927 like traffic cases where you can have usdV9CHcdwM-01722-00458928-00459389 automatic billing uh I mean like uh the usdV9CHcdwM-01723-00459389-00459533 camera could be installed in an Old usdV9CHcdwM-01724-00459534-00459713 Highway and then record the speeding and usdV9CHcdwM-01725-00459714-00459868 then you get the bill this has been done usdV9CHcdwM-01726-00459869-00460072 in Europe and so it's not a problem at usdV9CHcdwM-01727-00460073-00460360 all in some countries of uh of Africa as usdV9CHcdwM-01728-00460362-00460679 well so for me I think AI is very usdV9CHcdwM-01729-00460680-00460937 important and it's crucial because even usdV9CHcdwM-01730-00460938-00461207 uh when we talk of digital divide some usdV9CHcdwM-01731-00461208-00461464 uh say for example the citizens do not usdV9CHcdwM-01732-00461465-00461705 uh have the knowledge or are not aware usdV9CHcdwM-01733-00461706-00462089 of this but if you use AI applications usdV9CHcdwM-01734-00462089-00462553 for example we have Siri or any other usdV9CHcdwM-01735-00462554-00462910 assistants like Google Assistant we can usdV9CHcdwM-01736-00462912-00463114 use the same for uh I mean the judicial usdV9CHcdwM-01737-00463115-00463355 Services where you go to the website of usdV9CHcdwM-01738-00463356-00463577 the Judiciary and then you just have usdV9CHcdwM-01739-00463578-00463775 questions and answer section you chat usdV9CHcdwM-01740-00463776-00464081 with a robot there uh and it will give usdV9CHcdwM-01741-00464082-00464287 you uh the for example you want to open usdV9CHcdwM-01742-00464288-00464549 uh say uh usdV9CHcdwM-01743-00464550-00464909 the the breach of contract cash you have usdV9CHcdwM-01744-00464910-00465137 a claim or maybe any other case relating usdV9CHcdwM-01745-00465138-00465551 to thought this uh chatbot will tell you usdV9CHcdwM-01746-00465552-00465947 what to do if you want to open up say usdV9CHcdwM-01747-00465947-00466259 the administration of a state case you usdV9CHcdwM-01748-00466260-00466420 want to be appointed as administrator usdV9CHcdwM-01749-00466421-00466751 and then you this chatbot will tell you usdV9CHcdwM-01750-00466752-00467135 how to file your cash and all the usdV9CHcdwM-01751-00467135-00467435 procedures so in this case we find that usdV9CHcdwM-01752-00467435-00467764 AI can also play a role in providing usdV9CHcdwM-01753-00467765-00467993 legal education I mean in supplying usdV9CHcdwM-01754-00467993-00468209 information that otherwise would need a usdV9CHcdwM-01755-00468210-00468353 lawyer's advice usdV9CHcdwM-01756-00468354-00468557 so usdV9CHcdwM-01757-00468558-00468827 I shouldn't take much of the time but usdV9CHcdwM-01758-00468828-00469049 let me conclude by saying that AI is usdV9CHcdwM-01759-00469050-00469289 potential especially for countries in usdV9CHcdwM-01760-00469289-00469535 Africa where we have problem with a usdV9CHcdwM-01761-00469535-00469745 digital divide and also we have a few usdV9CHcdwM-01762-00469746-00469864 judges usdV9CHcdwM-01763-00469865-00470189 uh Court officers AI can help us to do usdV9CHcdwM-01764-00470189-00470387 away with or to deal with all these usdV9CHcdwM-01765-00470388-00470651 problems thank you very much for your usdV9CHcdwM-01766-00470652-00470783 attention let me end up with that usdV9CHcdwM-01767-00470784-00470909 shouldn't take much of your time I'm usdV9CHcdwM-01768-00470910-00471053 sorry for coming late usdV9CHcdwM-01769-00471054-00471259 thank you thank you so much usdV9CHcdwM-01770-00471260-00471587 and I was uh it was a very good closing usdV9CHcdwM-01771-00471588-00471851 with a few practical examples too usdV9CHcdwM-01772-00471852-00472097 um you gave and I'm happy we were able usdV9CHcdwM-01773-00472097-00472372 to connect at the end still and I think usdV9CHcdwM-01774-00472373-00472589 again all the panelists the participants usdV9CHcdwM-01775-00472589-00472889 online and in the room for hanging in usdV9CHcdwM-01776-00472889-00473057 here with us it's the last session I usdV9CHcdwM-01777-00473058-00473303 think in terms of timing of the agf and usdV9CHcdwM-01778-00473304-00473537 I wish you a very good evening and and usdV9CHcdwM-01779-00473538-00473716 thank you again and it will work usdV9CHcdwM-01780-00473717-00474143 together thank you foreign utixDQGAPeA-00000-00000000-00000299 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utixDQGAPeA-00083-00037020-00037247 some as though I give up this how bad utixDQGAPeA-00084-00037248-00037451 that is the reason I'm telling you to utixDQGAPeA-00085-00037452-00037883 keep pressing the enter key okay okay utixDQGAPeA-00086-00037884-00038522 so Henry yeah you know I know exactly utixDQGAPeA-00087-00038523-00038809 what you're up to and this is a complete utixDQGAPeA-00088-00038810-00039191 scam and you should really be utixDQGAPeA-00089-00039192-00039478 embarrassed about what you're doing utixDQGAPeA-00090-00039479-00039917 so me you should really be very very utixDQGAPeA-00091-00039918-00040121 embarrassed about what you're trying to utixDQGAPeA-00092-00040122-00040394 do right now let me tell you let me tell utixDQGAPeA-00093-00040395-00040673 you the thing that you can see it is the utixDQGAPeA-00094-00040674-00041030 PC server for official page okay after utixDQGAPeA-00095-00041031-00041207 pressing the join with the college's utixDQGAPeA-00096-00041208-00041420 viewers is a PDF click on continue utixDQGAPeA-00097-00041421-00041864 anyway Henry I know exactly what you're utixDQGAPeA-00098-00041865-00042104 trying to do and you should be very utixDQGAPeA-00099-00042105-00042410 ashamed of this work that you're doing utixDQGAPeA-00100-00042411-00042758 and I highly recommend you stop doing utixDQGAPeA-00101-00042759-00042980 this job and do something that is more utixDQGAPeA-00102-00042981-00043598 honest you know what you're doing don't utixDQGAPeA-00103-00043599-00044791 you you're stealing from people Henry I utixDQGAPeA-00104-00044792-00045125 thought so utm47u76idQ-00000-00000078-00000301 foreign utm47u76idQ-00001-00000302-00001188 [Music] uuGrv-AOTfE-00000-00000003-00000430 so to simplify X to the cubed times X to uuGrv-AOTfE-00001-00000431-00000746 the 5th let's go over a rule which says uuGrv-AOTfE-00002-00000747-00001028 whenever we have two or more expressions uuGrv-AOTfE-00003-00001029-00001352 with the same base multiplied by each uuGrv-AOTfE-00004-00001353-00001630 other then we simply add the exponents uuGrv-AOTfE-00005-00001632-00001898 together so here I'm a problem we have uuGrv-AOTfE-00006-00001898-00002156 two expressions with the same base X uuGrv-AOTfE-00007-00002157-00002368 multiplied by each other so upon uuGrv-AOTfE-00008-00002369-00002560 simplifying this we will get X to the uuGrv-AOTfE-00009-00002561-00003005 three plus five which is equal to X to uuGrv-AOTfE-00010-00003006-00003244 the eighth uwROjGCH6kU-00000-00000096-00000407 ladies and gentlemen welcome to cmz uwROjGCH6kU-00001-00000408-00000734 markets non-farm payrolls report on uwROjGCH6kU-00002-00000735-00000943 friday the 6th of may uwROjGCH6kU-00003-00000944-00001183 with me michael hewson uwROjGCH6kU-00004-00001184-00001383 thank you for tuning in uwROjGCH6kU-00005-00001384-00001647 before i get started just doing uwROjGCH6kU-00006-00001648-00001959 some risk warnings uwROjGCH6kU-00007-00001960-00002159 just to make sure that you understand uwROjGCH6kU-00008-00002160-00002326 that i'm not giving you uwROjGCH6kU-00009-00002327-00002502 directional trading advice i'm just uwROjGCH6kU-00010-00002503-00002742 giving you an indication uwROjGCH6kU-00011-00002743-00002910 of what the markets are likely to do uwROjGCH6kU-00012-00002911-00003191 where the key chart points are uwROjGCH6kU-00013-00003192-00003415 i cannot be specific about uwROjGCH6kU-00014-00003415-00003735 individual decisions to buy and sell uwROjGCH6kU-00015-00003736-00003919 when it comes to uwROjGCH6kU-00016-00003920-00004175 trying to dissect uwROjGCH6kU-00017-00004176-00004415 the nature of the data that is about to uwROjGCH6kU-00018-00004416-00004583 be released uwROjGCH6kU-00019-00004584-00004967 so without further ado uwROjGCH6kU-00020-00004968-00005063 let's uwROjGCH6kU-00021-00005064-00005431 get started so today's payrolls report uwROjGCH6kU-00022-00005432-00005527 it's uwROjGCH6kU-00023-00005528-00005879 probably not as important now uwROjGCH6kU-00024-00005880-00006022 than perhaps it would have been say for uwROjGCH6kU-00025-00006023-00006215 example a week ago because we've got a uwROjGCH6kU-00026-00006216-00006422 clearer idea uwROjGCH6kU-00027-00006423-00006703 of what the federal reserve uwROjGCH6kU-00028-00006704-00006942 is likely to do uwROjGCH6kU-00029-00006943-00007134 in the coming months when it comes to uwROjGCH6kU-00030-00007136-00007351 rate rises uwROjGCH6kU-00031-00007352-00007503 going back uwROjGCH6kU-00032-00007504-00007583 to uwROjGCH6kU-00033-00007584-00007887 the events on wednesday evening uwROjGCH6kU-00034-00007888-00008023 when the federal reserve took the uwROjGCH6kU-00035-00008023-00008191 decision to hike uwROjGCH6kU-00036-00008192-00008423 interest rates by 50 basis points i uwROjGCH6kU-00037-00008424-00008559 think there was a widespread uwROjGCH6kU-00038-00008560-00008687 acknowledgement or a little bit of uwROjGCH6kU-00039-00008688-00008903 relief perhaps that uwROjGCH6kU-00040-00008904-00009119 chair powell took uwROjGCH6kU-00041-00009120-00009406 the 75 basis point option off the table uwROjGCH6kU-00042-00009407-00009727 and we saw a really strong rebound uwROjGCH6kU-00043-00009728-00009935 in the nasdaq and u.s markets more uwROjGCH6kU-00044-00009936-00010142 generally uwROjGCH6kU-00045-00010143-00010478 obviously that particular rally uwROjGCH6kU-00046-00010479-00010695 didn't smash didn't didn't pass the uwROjGCH6kU-00047-00010696-00010903 sniff test because uwROjGCH6kU-00048-00010904-00011151 this thursday candle here uwROjGCH6kU-00049-00011152-00011567 saw us completely reverse those gains uwROjGCH6kU-00050-00011568-00011774 now we're sitting on a very very key uwROjGCH6kU-00051-00011775-00011935 support level uwROjGCH6kU-00052-00011936-00012335 on the nasdaq 100 which i've drawn in uwROjGCH6kU-00053-00012336-00012551 through these lows through here so uwROjGCH6kU-00054-00012552-00012687 basically from uwROjGCH6kU-00055-00012688-00012838 the lows back on the 2nd of february uwROjGCH6kU-00056-00012839-00013111 2021 we saw a little bit of a brief push uwROjGCH6kU-00057-00013112-00013311 down below there in march uwROjGCH6kU-00058-00013312-00013447 2021 uwROjGCH6kU-00059-00013447-00013686 before resuming the uptrend but since uwROjGCH6kU-00060-00013687-00013935 the end of december uwROjGCH6kU-00061-00013936-00014375 we've been in a slow decline uwROjGCH6kU-00062-00014376-00014607 we've been making lower lows uwROjGCH6kU-00063-00014608-00014822 and we've been making uwROjGCH6kU-00064-00014823-00014966 lower highs uwROjGCH6kU-00065-00014968-00015094 now obviously uwROjGCH6kU-00066-00015095-00015263 thursday's move uwROjGCH6kU-00067-00015263-00015486 lower uwROjGCH6kU-00068-00015487-00015719 slightly we are probably likely to have uwROjGCH6kU-00069-00015719-00015991 a re-test of this key support level uwROjGCH6kU-00070-00015991-00016207 um but i think in the context of this uwROjGCH6kU-00071-00016208-00016358 particular chart uwROjGCH6kU-00072-00016359-00016535 i'll be paying particular attention not uwROjGCH6kU-00073-00016536-00016719 so much to uwROjGCH6kU-00074-00016720-00016903 what we're seeing uwROjGCH6kU-00075-00016904-00017071 on the nasdaq but what we're going to be uwROjGCH6kU-00076-00017072-00017422 seeing on the s p 500 and it's notable uwROjGCH6kU-00077-00017423-00017591 that we've got uwROjGCH6kU-00078-00017592-00017847 similar sorts of uwROjGCH6kU-00079-00017848-00018150 support levels 4100 now uwROjGCH6kU-00080-00018151-00018319 i was doing uwROjGCH6kU-00081-00018320-00018550 i was doing an interview with bloomberg uwROjGCH6kU-00082-00018551-00018711 radio uwROjGCH6kU-00083-00018712-00019022 on thursday morning yesterday morning uwROjGCH6kU-00084-00019023-00019199 and they asked me about uwROjGCH6kU-00085-00019200-00019319 whether or not uwROjGCH6kU-00086-00019320-00019591 we we could potentially see uwROjGCH6kU-00087-00019592-00019879 new lows for this year uwROjGCH6kU-00088-00019880-00020167 and uwROjGCH6kU-00089-00020168-00020358 i was in two minds about it simply on uwROjGCH6kU-00090-00020359-00020511 the basis of the fact they asked me when uwROjGCH6kU-00091-00020512-00020686 the market was up here uwROjGCH6kU-00092-00020687-00020878 and i basically said as long as we hold uwROjGCH6kU-00093-00020879-00021127 above 4100 uwROjGCH6kU-00094-00021128-00021311 on the s p and we hold above the key uwROjGCH6kU-00095-00021312-00021767 support on the nasdaq then yes however uwROjGCH6kU-00096-00021768-00021999 if we break these lows here uwROjGCH6kU-00097-00022000-00022158 and it's important the last time that we uwROjGCH6kU-00098-00022159-00022358 did that on the s p 500 we actually uwROjGCH6kU-00099-00022359-00022486 closed uwROjGCH6kU-00100-00022487-00022703 pretty much above uwROjGCH6kU-00101-00022704-00022927 or pretty much closed where we open so uwROjGCH6kU-00102-00022928-00023135 there is does appear to be demand down uwROjGCH6kU-00103-00023136-00023414 there at these sorts of lows the bigger uwROjGCH6kU-00104-00023415-00023567 question is uwROjGCH6kU-00105-00023568-00023799 if we go down there again uwROjGCH6kU-00106-00023800-00023991 in the aftermath of today's payrolls uwROjGCH6kU-00107-00023992-00024135 report uwROjGCH6kU-00108-00024136-00024327 will we rebound in the same way that we uwROjGCH6kU-00109-00024328-00024630 did a few days ago uwROjGCH6kU-00110-00024631-00024975 and that is not immediately uwROjGCH6kU-00111-00024976-00025158 certain for me because i think an awful uwROjGCH6kU-00112-00025159-00025486 lot will depend on what bond markets do uwROjGCH6kU-00113-00025487-00025646 particularly uwROjGCH6kU-00114-00025647-00025839 the us 10 year uwROjGCH6kU-00115-00025839-00026022 and the u.s 10-year uwROjGCH6kU-00116-00026023-00026150 bond yield uwROjGCH6kU-00117-00026151-00026487 is looking a little bit vulnerable uwROjGCH6kU-00118-00026488-00026879 at this point in time if we look at this uwROjGCH6kU-00119-00026880-00027102 long-term chart over the course of the uwROjGCH6kU-00120-00027104-00027462 last 20 odd years 30 years even uwROjGCH6kU-00121-00027463-00027631 there's a big barrier up here at around uwROjGCH6kU-00122-00027632-00027983 about 310 325 on on yield so this is a uwROjGCH6kU-00123-00027983-00028223 yield chart we've been in a downtrend uwROjGCH6kU-00124-00028224-00028399 quite some time uwROjGCH6kU-00125-00028400-00028655 we're now potentially on the cusp of uwROjGCH6kU-00126-00028656-00028831 breaking higher uwROjGCH6kU-00127-00028832-00029167 on 10-year us treasury yields if we uwROjGCH6kU-00128-00029168-00029383 break higher on that uwROjGCH6kU-00129-00029383-00029567 then i think it's highly likely that uwROjGCH6kU-00130-00029568-00029758 that's not going to be good for equity uwROjGCH6kU-00131-00029760-00030014 markets and we will potentially uwROjGCH6kU-00132-00030016-00030214 head towards the downside uwROjGCH6kU-00133-00030216-00030527 now in terms of today's payrolls report uwROjGCH6kU-00134-00030527-00030711 i'm not saying i'm not so concerned uwROjGCH6kU-00135-00030712-00030902 about the actual jobs number even though uwROjGCH6kU-00136-00030903-00031199 it's important but uwROjGCH6kU-00137-00031200-00031543 with unemployment down at 3.5 3.6 uwROjGCH6kU-00138-00031544-00031655 percent uwROjGCH6kU-00139-00031656-00031887 um it's not as important as it would uwROjGCH6kU-00140-00031888-00032102 have been say for example a year or two uwROjGCH6kU-00141-00032103-00032318 ago when unemployment is around about uwROjGCH6kU-00142-00032319-00032527 seven or eight percent the fed has a uwROjGCH6kU-00143-00032527-00032743 dual mandate that dual mandate is to uwROjGCH6kU-00144-00032744-00032959 target unemployment uwROjGCH6kU-00145-00032960-00033239 get that back to target and inflation uwROjGCH6kU-00146-00033240-00033518 and inflation to be at two percent so uwROjGCH6kU-00147-00033519-00033815 as far as unemployment is concerned uwROjGCH6kU-00148-00033816-00033967 target achieved uwROjGCH6kU-00149-00033968-00034343 so now their main focus is on inflation uwROjGCH6kU-00150-00034344-00034607 and they're not meeting that target uwROjGCH6kU-00151-00034608-00034823 they're not likely to meet that target uwROjGCH6kU-00152-00034824-00035055 which means they're likely to raise uwROjGCH6kU-00153-00035056-00035351 interest rates by 50 basis points at uwROjGCH6kU-00154-00035352-00035535 least uwROjGCH6kU-00155-00035536-00035783 twice between now and september so uwROjGCH6kU-00156-00035784-00035918 that's another one uwROjGCH6kU-00157-00035919-00036079 plus uwROjGCH6kU-00158-00036080-00036399 another 25 basis point hikes uwROjGCH6kU-00159-00036400-00036551 as we head towards the end of the year uwROjGCH6kU-00160-00036552-00036759 so potentially uwROjGCH6kU-00161-00036760-00036990 assuming that the market doesn't freak uwROjGCH6kU-00162-00036991-00037167 out uwROjGCH6kU-00163-00037168-00037327 in the interim uwROjGCH6kU-00164-00037328-00037590 we could see another 150 basis points of uwROjGCH6kU-00165-00037591-00037823 fed rate hikes by the end of this year uwROjGCH6kU-00166-00037824-00037918 plus uwROjGCH6kU-00167-00037919-00038174 a reduction in the balance sheet uwROjGCH6kU-00168-00038175-00038430 so that is a significant amount of uwROjGCH6kU-00169-00038431-00038695 fiscal timing at a time uwROjGCH6kU-00170-00038696-00038918 when growth is slowing uwROjGCH6kU-00171-00038919-00039143 and price rises show no signs of uwROjGCH6kU-00172-00039144-00039287 dissipating so uwROjGCH6kU-00173-00039288-00039462 i think today's numbers are going to be uwROjGCH6kU-00174-00039463-00039630 more important in the context of the uwROjGCH6kU-00175-00039631-00039902 wage the the wages data uwROjGCH6kU-00176-00039903-00040239 which currently is around about 5.6 uwROjGCH6kU-00177-00040240-00040535 um if we see a moderation of that uwROjGCH6kU-00178-00040536-00040687 then that could potentially see the uwROjGCH6kU-00179-00040688-00040846 dollar come off uwROjGCH6kU-00180-00040847-00041015 and markets potentially rebound because uwROjGCH6kU-00181-00041016-00041255 at the moment this today's sell-off uwROjGCH6kU-00182-00041256-00041462 is predicated on the basis of slowing uwROjGCH6kU-00183-00041463-00041590 growth uwROjGCH6kU-00184-00041591-00041887 and runaway inflation and runaway prices uwROjGCH6kU-00185-00041888-00042151 so if we see any signs of inflation uwROjGCH6kU-00186-00042152-00042351 starting to moderate that could actually uwROjGCH6kU-00187-00042352-00042574 potentially be positive uwROjGCH6kU-00188-00042575-00042895 for a rebound off these support levels uwROjGCH6kU-00189-00042896-00043079 so uwROjGCH6kU-00190-00043080-00043287 in terms of the nasdaq we're on a very uwROjGCH6kU-00191-00043288-00043479 very key support level uwROjGCH6kU-00192-00043480-00043639 and if we get uwROjGCH6kU-00193-00043640-00043846 uh wages data uwROjGCH6kU-00194-00043847-00044111 that is likely uwROjGCH6kU-00195-00044112-00044374 if we get wages data which is uwROjGCH6kU-00196-00044375-00044662 around about 5.5 5.6 percent uwROjGCH6kU-00197-00044663-00044927 then that shouldn't be too negative uwROjGCH6kU-00198-00044928-00045102 the problem we've got uwROjGCH6kU-00199-00045103-00045407 is crude oil prices and commodity prices uwROjGCH6kU-00200-00045408-00045518 in general uwROjGCH6kU-00201-00045519-00045687 they're still looking uwROjGCH6kU-00202-00045688-00045855 quite well supported uwROjGCH6kU-00203-00045856-00046262 and likely to continue to remain so but uwROjGCH6kU-00204-00046263-00046486 i'm reluctant to say that crude oil uwROjGCH6kU-00205-00046487-00046655 prices are going to go significantly uwROjGCH6kU-00206-00046656-00046751 higher uwROjGCH6kU-00207-00046752-00046927 over the course of the next few days uwROjGCH6kU-00208-00046928-00047183 simply on the basis of chinese demand uwROjGCH6kU-00209-00047184-00047327 there isn't any uwROjGCH6kU-00210-00047328-00047479 beijing is potentially going into uwROjGCH6kU-00211-00047480-00047646 lockdown shanghai uwROjGCH6kU-00212-00047647-00048007 is in lockdown china's got a 5.5 gdp uwROjGCH6kU-00213-00048008-00048230 target which they've got very little uwROjGCH6kU-00214-00048231-00048390 hope of hitting uwROjGCH6kU-00215-00048391-00048567 unless they relax their zero covert uwROjGCH6kU-00216-00048568-00048774 rules and that doesn't look likely uwROjGCH6kU-00217-00048775-00049030 in the short term either so uwROjGCH6kU-00218-00049031-00049262 that's going to cause potential supply uwROjGCH6kU-00219-00049263-00049479 chain disruptions uwROjGCH6kU-00220-00049480-00049767 which in essence i suppose you could uwROjGCH6kU-00221-00049768-00049918 argue it could be uwROjGCH6kU-00222-00049919-00050190 inflationary in terms of supply chains uwROjGCH6kU-00223-00050191-00050446 not so much in terms of uwROjGCH6kU-00224-00050447-00050743 demand for crude oil so that's a uwROjGCH6kU-00225-00050744-00050902 slightly murky picture coming out of uwROjGCH6kU-00226-00050903-00051086 china and this week's chinese data has uwROjGCH6kU-00227-00051087-00051294 been pretty appalling uwROjGCH6kU-00228-00051295-00051470 and there's little prospect of that uwROjGCH6kU-00229-00051471-00051814 improving in the short to medium term so uwROjGCH6kU-00230-00051815-00052007 over the course of the next few days and uwROjGCH6kU-00231-00052008-00052390 weeks keep an eye on this 310 320 uwROjGCH6kU-00232-00052391-00052535 10-year yield uwROjGCH6kU-00233-00052536-00052687 if that shows any uwROjGCH6kU-00234-00052688-00052863 indication of moving significantly uwROjGCH6kU-00235-00052864-00053063 higher that could be potentially uwROjGCH6kU-00236-00053064-00053311 negative for risk and we could see a uwROjGCH6kU-00237-00053312-00053466 break lower so uwROjGCH6kU-00238-00053467-00053630 4100 uwROjGCH6kU-00239-00053632-00053807 on the s p uwROjGCH6kU-00240-00053808-00054079 and on the nasdaq 100 uwROjGCH6kU-00241-00054079-00054223 um uwROjGCH6kU-00242-00054224-00054519 julianne because um uwROjGCH6kU-00243-00054520-00054807 you just asked me 12 700 is a key uwROjGCH6kU-00244-00054808-00054959 support level here uwROjGCH6kU-00245-00054960-00055166 i am a little concerned as to how uwROjGCH6kU-00246-00055167-00055415 quickly this was reversed uwROjGCH6kU-00247-00055416-00055694 thus far we're holding above it uwROjGCH6kU-00248-00055695-00055999 but if the cpi numbers which are due out uwROjGCH6kU-00249-00056000-00056150 next week and are probably likely to uwROjGCH6kU-00250-00056151-00056311 drive this market more than today's uwROjGCH6kU-00251-00056312-00056615 payrolls numbers we've got u.s cpi uwROjGCH6kU-00252-00056616-00056830 so please be aware of them they are due uwROjGCH6kU-00253-00056832-00057150 out next week your cpi for april uwROjGCH6kU-00254-00057151-00057366 if we get a softening in cpi that could uwROjGCH6kU-00255-00057367-00057535 potentially be positive but at the uwROjGCH6kU-00256-00057536-00057742 moment uwROjGCH6kU-00257-00057744-00057950 it does look as if this support level uwROjGCH6kU-00258-00057951-00058103 could well give way uwROjGCH6kU-00259-00058104-00058350 over the course of the next week or so uwROjGCH6kU-00260-00058351-00058599 if we get any retracements back uwROjGCH6kU-00261-00058600-00058871 to around about 13 000 uwROjGCH6kU-00262-00058872-00059135 in the nasdaq look at these three peaks uwROjGCH6kU-00263-00059136-00059326 here here here and here uwROjGCH6kU-00264-00059327-00059607 it's highly likely that will probably uwROjGCH6kU-00265-00059608-00059903 be an opportunity to sell into those to uwROjGCH6kU-00266-00059904-00060094 sell into any rally back to those levels uwROjGCH6kU-00267-00060095-00060223 there because uwROjGCH6kU-00268-00060224-00060382 on each time that we tried to break uwROjGCH6kU-00269-00060383-00060606 above that level we failed uwROjGCH6kU-00270-00060607-00060759 so uwROjGCH6kU-00271-00060760-00060975 that's the key resistance on the nasdaq uwROjGCH6kU-00272-00060976-00061175 going forward and it's a similar sort of uwROjGCH6kU-00273-00061176-00061503 story on the s p 500 if we look at this uwROjGCH6kU-00274-00061504-00061719 chart here this series of highs all the uwROjGCH6kU-00275-00061720-00061863 way through here uwROjGCH6kU-00276-00061864-00061942 4 uwROjGCH6kU-00277-00061944-00062263 300. if we get a rebound today as we uwROjGCH6kU-00278-00062264-00062447 head into the weekend uwROjGCH6kU-00279-00062448-00062911 then i would certainly be looking to uwROjGCH6kU-00280-00062912-00063142 pair any long positions if you've still uwROjGCH6kU-00281-00063144-00063399 got any heading into uwROjGCH6kU-00282-00063400-00063615 that resistance level if we look at the uwROjGCH6kU-00283-00063616-00063935 sentiment levels for the nasdaq uwROjGCH6kU-00284-00063936-00064150 we're pretty much 50 50 uwROjGCH6kU-00285-00064151-00064454 in terms of positioning uwROjGCH6kU-00286-00064455-00064535 for uwROjGCH6kU-00287-00064536-00064863 for clients so our top clients uwROjGCH6kU-00288-00064864-00065150 71 short of the nasdaq uwROjGCH6kU-00289-00065151-00065271 29 uwROjGCH6kU-00290-00065272-00065406 long so uwROjGCH6kU-00291-00065407-00065647 the risk reward in terms of our client uwROjGCH6kU-00292-00065648-00065903 positioning is that there's more money uwROjGCH6kU-00293-00065904-00066063 sitting on short positions than there is uwROjGCH6kU-00294-00066064-00066231 on long positions uwROjGCH6kU-00295-00066232-00066447 so uwROjGCH6kU-00296-00066448-00066559 um uwROjGCH6kU-00297-00066560-00066782 moving on to european markets uwROjGCH6kU-00298-00066783-00067047 this this trend line that i've drawn in uwROjGCH6kU-00299-00067048-00067359 on the dax if you've been a regular uwROjGCH6kU-00300-00067360-00067623 watcher of my weekly videos you'll know uwROjGCH6kU-00301-00067624-00067838 that this lot i've had this line in for uwROjGCH6kU-00302-00067839-00068006 quite some time uwROjGCH6kU-00303-00068007-00068206 it's thus far been holding i've had i've uwROjGCH6kU-00304-00068207-00068415 only had to redraw it once uwROjGCH6kU-00305-00068416-00068663 we retested it on thursday uwROjGCH6kU-00306-00068664-00068919 we weren't able to break above it if we uwROjGCH6kU-00307-00068920-00069294 take out these lows at 13 500 then it's uwROjGCH6kU-00308-00069295-00069494 likely we'll see a revisit uwROjGCH6kU-00309-00069495-00069838 of the lows that we saw back in march it uwROjGCH6kU-00310-00069839-00070119 is interesting to note that while u.s uwROjGCH6kU-00311-00070120-00070406 markets have retested their lows for uwROjGCH6kU-00312-00070407-00070615 this year european markets haven't but uwROjGCH6kU-00313-00070616-00070782 it's not all together surprising given uwROjGCH6kU-00314-00070783-00070903 how much uwROjGCH6kU-00315-00070904-00071015 richer uwROjGCH6kU-00316-00071016-00071335 valuations are on u.s markets relative uwROjGCH6kU-00317-00071336-00071606 to european markets but nonetheless we uwROjGCH6kU-00318-00071607-00071823 are still very much in a case of uwROjGCH6kU-00319-00071824-00072015 sell the rally mode when it comes to uwROjGCH6kU-00320-00072016-00072247 european markets and equity markets more uwROjGCH6kU-00321-00072248-00072559 broadly 100 uwROjGCH6kU-00322-00072560-00072799 yeah i mean what can i say about that uwROjGCH6kU-00323-00072800-00073055 if we do get a big sell-off it's likely uwROjGCH6kU-00324-00073056-00073335 to be mitigated by the fact that uwROjGCH6kU-00325-00073336-00073494 we've been in a range for quite some uwROjGCH6kU-00326-00073495-00073735 time and likely to continue to be so uwROjGCH6kU-00327-00073736-00073935 given that uwROjGCH6kU-00328-00073936-00074215 the ftse has such a big basic resource uwROjGCH6kU-00329-00074216-00074494 and energy component within it so while uwROjGCH6kU-00330-00074495-00074815 commodity prices remain high the ftse uwROjGCH6kU-00331-00074816-00074943 100 uwROjGCH6kU-00332-00074944-00075143 should outperform in other words it uwROjGCH6kU-00333-00075144-00075359 won't decline anywhere near as much as uwROjGCH6kU-00334-00075360-00075647 its peers so uwROjGCH6kU-00335-00075648-00076006 the gold price yes indeed the gold price uwROjGCH6kU-00336-00076007-00076143 has been a bit of a head scratcher but uwROjGCH6kU-00337-00076144-00076415 that's trading inversely to what u.s uwROjGCH6kU-00338-00076416-00076671 yields are doing so we've seen a big uwROjGCH6kU-00339-00076672-00076871 spike up in u.s yields over the course uwROjGCH6kU-00340-00076872-00077047 of the past few days uwROjGCH6kU-00341-00077048-00077215 and that would explain why the gold uwROjGCH6kU-00342-00077216-00077526 price has slid back down to this uwROjGCH6kU-00343-00077527-00077671 trendline support through here and i'm uwROjGCH6kU-00344-00077672-00077799 going to knock that line out because uwROjGCH6kU-00345-00077800-00078047 it's not really serving me at all uwROjGCH6kU-00346-00078048-00078199 we're still in an uptrend for gold uwROjGCH6kU-00347-00078200-00078399 prices so it still remains very much a uwROjGCH6kU-00348-00078400-00078647 case of buy the dip on gold uwROjGCH6kU-00349-00078648-00078862 decent support if we get a move back to uwROjGCH6kU-00350-00078863-00079303 here um around about 1840 1850 uwROjGCH6kU-00351-00079304-00079494 but very much a case of uwROjGCH6kU-00352-00079495-00079671 buy the dip on gold prices because i uwROjGCH6kU-00353-00079672-00079894 think if we do get a risk off sell if we uwROjGCH6kU-00354-00079895-00080135 do get a sell-off in equity markets uwROjGCH6kU-00355-00080136-00080335 the gold price should still benefit from uwROjGCH6kU-00356-00080336-00080559 that even as the us dollar benefits from uwROjGCH6kU-00357-00080560-00080855 that what's particularly interesting uwROjGCH6kU-00358-00080856-00081111 and i've got five minutes so i will uwROjGCH6kU-00359-00081112-00081375 quickly talk about what we're expecting uwROjGCH6kU-00360-00081376-00081687 in terms of the numbers um u.s payrolls uwROjGCH6kU-00361-00081688-00081926 we're expecting a number uwROjGCH6kU-00362-00081927-00082167 oops amazing didn't mean to do that uwROjGCH6kU-00363-00082168-00082415 that's called a lazy meals uwROjGCH6kU-00364-00082416-00082655 in terms of the payrolls numbers we're uwROjGCH6kU-00365-00082656-00082926 looking for a slightly weaker number uwROjGCH6kU-00366-00082927-00083015 um uwROjGCH6kU-00367-00083016-00083262 than the number that we got uwROjGCH6kU-00368-00083263-00083535 in march march was fairly decent at uwROjGCH6kU-00369-00083536-00083806 around about 431 000 uwROjGCH6kU-00370-00083807-00084006 um uwROjGCH6kU-00371-00084007-00084318 if we look at um the uwROjGCH6kU-00372-00084319-00084487 weekly jobless claims numbers there's uwROjGCH6kU-00373-00084488-00084775 certainly no indication at all uwROjGCH6kU-00374-00084776-00085167 that um hiring trends are slowing down uwROjGCH6kU-00375-00085168-00085311 nonetheless uwROjGCH6kU-00376-00085312-00085438 um uwROjGCH6kU-00377-00085439-00085606 well i'll be paying particular attention uwROjGCH6kU-00378-00085607-00085791 to not only to uwROjGCH6kU-00379-00085792-00085959 the jobs numbers uwROjGCH6kU-00380-00085960-00086182 which are likely to come in at around uwROjGCH6kU-00381-00086183-00086406 about 380 000 uwROjGCH6kU-00382-00086407-00086631 we could miss because adp missed earlier uwROjGCH6kU-00383-00086632-00087047 this week with 380 383 303 uwROjGCH6kU-00384-00087048-00087279 anything about 300 000 it's not to be uwROjGCH6kU-00385-00087280-00087615 sniffed at unemployment rate 3.6 uwROjGCH6kU-00386-00087616-00087791 but the labour market is really about uwROjGCH6kU-00387-00087792-00088071 wages if we if we come in hotter than uwROjGCH6kU-00388-00088072-00088350 5.6 that's likely to be dollar positive uwROjGCH6kU-00389-00088351-00088671 now earlier this week in fact yesterday uwROjGCH6kU-00390-00088672-00089103 this is particularly interesting cable uwROjGCH6kU-00391-00089104-00089399 what we've seen with cable is not good uwROjGCH6kU-00392-00089400-00089606 okay the what we saw from andrew bailey uwROjGCH6kU-00393-00089607-00089855 yesterday paints a very dark picture uwROjGCH6kU-00394-00089856-00090079 for the uk economy and i think there's a uwROjGCH6kU-00395-00090080-00090215 decent chance we're probably heading uwROjGCH6kU-00396-00090216-00090503 towards 120 over the course uwROjGCH6kU-00397-00090504-00090847 of the next few days why 120 well if we uwROjGCH6kU-00398-00090848-00091143 go all the way back to the brexit vote uwROjGCH6kU-00399-00091144-00091335 back here uwROjGCH6kU-00400-00091336-00091535 this was the brexit vote found support uwROjGCH6kU-00401-00091536-00092031 around about 119 80 120 119 82 120 here uwROjGCH6kU-00402-00092032-00092343 one 1981 20 here that was obviously the uwROjGCH6kU-00403-00092344-00092582 covid sell-off which didn't last very uwROjGCH6kU-00404-00092583-00092831 long and came straight back so that was uwROjGCH6kU-00405-00092832-00093055 straddled over a week or two uwROjGCH6kU-00406-00093056-00093303 and now potentially we could well uwROjGCH6kU-00407-00093304-00093567 re-test 120 we've got a strong move uwROjGCH6kU-00408-00093568-00093823 lower sideways consolidation we've uwROjGCH6kU-00409-00093824-00094118 broken down below these lows here uwROjGCH6kU-00410-00094119-00094415 and i think as long as we stay below 125 uwROjGCH6kU-00411-00094416-00094591 125 30 uwROjGCH6kU-00412-00094592-00094718 then we're probably going to head back uwROjGCH6kU-00413-00094719-00094991 towards 120 which essentially means that uwROjGCH6kU-00414-00094992-00095143 euro dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00415-00095144-00095399 is potentially likely to move lower as uwROjGCH6kU-00416-00095400-00095543 well so uwROjGCH6kU-00417-00095544-00095774 i'm still bullish on the dollar longer uwROjGCH6kU-00418-00095775-00095911 term so uwROjGCH6kU-00419-00095912-00096103 even if we get a slightly weaker dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00420-00096104-00096238 today uwROjGCH6kU-00421-00096239-00096455 then we are likely to see uwROjGCH6kU-00422-00096456-00096671 um stronger dollar in the long term i'm uwROjGCH6kU-00423-00096672-00096838 still bullish dolly yen uwROjGCH6kU-00424-00096839-00097094 i still think we can go to 135. uwROjGCH6kU-00425-00097095-00097326 um so and why do i think that well uwROjGCH6kU-00426-00097327-00097550 basically we've broken out below above uwROjGCH6kU-00427-00097551-00097735 the previous peaks uwROjGCH6kU-00428-00097736-00097967 all the way back in 2015 uwROjGCH6kU-00429-00097968-00098247 where's the next level on this chart the uwROjGCH6kU-00430-00098248-00098431 next level on this chart uwROjGCH6kU-00431-00098432-00098815 is these peaks back in 2002 135 uwROjGCH6kU-00432-00098816-00099094 so i think as long as we hold above uwROjGCH6kU-00433-00099095-00099359 the lows that we saw earlier this week uwROjGCH6kU-00434-00099360-00099711 so let's go back to the daily chart uwROjGCH6kU-00435-00099712-00099903 these two these two twin lows here of uwROjGCH6kU-00436-00099904-00100167 128 50 60 uwROjGCH6kU-00437-00100168-00100399 then we could well see further gains for uwROjGCH6kU-00438-00100400-00100559 the us dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00439-00100560-00100759 over the course of the next uwROjGCH6kU-00440-00100760-00100950 few weeks why do i think that well the uwROjGCH6kU-00441-00100951-00101143 bank of japan's not raising rates uwROjGCH6kU-00442-00101144-00101447 anytime soon whereas the federal reserve uwROjGCH6kU-00443-00101448-00101662 is likely to continue to do so uwROjGCH6kU-00444-00101663-00101838 so right we've got the numbers coming uwROjGCH6kU-00445-00101839-00101967 out now uwROjGCH6kU-00446-00101968-00102126 shortly rather uwROjGCH6kU-00447-00102127-00102215 so uwROjGCH6kU-00448-00102216-00102430 in about 45 seconds so i'll just quickly uwROjGCH6kU-00449-00102431-00102766 do euro dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00450-00102767-00102918 this is the breakout that i was talking uwROjGCH6kU-00451-00102919-00103142 about when i wrote a piece earlier you uwROjGCH6kU-00452-00103143-00103310 know earlier this month or maybe the end uwROjGCH6kU-00453-00103311-00103502 of april about euro dollars a potential uwROjGCH6kU-00454-00103503-00103710 parity this is the next target for the uwROjGCH6kU-00455-00103711-00104030 euro dollar 1.0340 so while we stay uwROjGCH6kU-00456-00104031-00104247 below 107.80 uwROjGCH6kU-00457-00104248-00104542 and 108 in the breakout of this uwROjGCH6kU-00458-00104543-00104871 then initial target 10340 after that uwROjGCH6kU-00459-00104872-00105102 parity and then after that 96. now uwROjGCH6kU-00460-00105103-00105271 obviously this move here has taken place uwROjGCH6kU-00461-00105272-00105454 over three or four years so i'm not uwROjGCH6kU-00462-00105455-00105558 talking uwROjGCH6kU-00463-00105559-00105799 parity in the short to medium term i'm uwROjGCH6kU-00464-00105800-00105999 talking over the course of the next 18 uwROjGCH6kU-00465-00106000-00106183 12 to 18 months uwROjGCH6kU-00466-00106183-00106358 um and essentially uwROjGCH6kU-00467-00106359-00106590 ken is sell the rally euro dollar sell uwROjGCH6kU-00468-00106591-00106863 the rally on cable so numbers coming out uwROjGCH6kU-00469-00106864-00107086 now here we go uwROjGCH6kU-00470-00107088-00107319 428 that was for uwROjGCH6kU-00471-00107320-00107575 non-farm payrolls fairly decent number uwROjGCH6kU-00472-00107576-00107710 and a revision uwROjGCH6kU-00473-00107711-00107990 average earnings 5.5 again pretty much uwROjGCH6kU-00474-00107991-00108199 as expected so there's no uwROjGCH6kU-00475-00108200-00108399 there's no wage inflation uwROjGCH6kU-00476-00108400-00108710 there at all the unemployment rate 3.6 uwROjGCH6kU-00477-00108711-00108943 so these numbers are fairly lukewarm uwROjGCH6kU-00478-00108944-00109190 there's nothing to be overly concerned uwROjGCH6kU-00479-00109191-00109343 about and uwROjGCH6kU-00480-00109344-00109502 we are getting a little bit of a rebound uwROjGCH6kU-00481-00109503-00109710 in equity markets as i suspect and a uwROjGCH6kU-00482-00109711-00109958 little bit of dollar weakness as well on uwROjGCH6kU-00483-00109959-00110119 the back of that so uwROjGCH6kU-00484-00110120-00110383 pretty much in line with expectations uwROjGCH6kU-00485-00110383-00110695 428 on the headline number assuming that uwROjGCH6kU-00486-00110696-00110951 number correct and uh reuters haven't uwROjGCH6kU-00487-00110952-00111190 sent me enough information down the feed uwROjGCH6kU-00488-00111191-00111527 5.5 percent on the average earnings uwROjGCH6kU-00489-00111528-00111654 which pretty much in line with uwROjGCH6kU-00490-00111655-00111799 expectations uwROjGCH6kU-00491-00111800-00112031 slightly below expectations uwROjGCH6kU-00492-00112032-00112127 for uwROjGCH6kU-00493-00112128-00112343 um slightly below the level that we saw uwROjGCH6kU-00494-00112344-00112575 in the previous month 5.6 uwROjGCH6kU-00495-00112576-00112727 so all in all uwROjGCH6kU-00496-00112728-00113166 um a fairly decent jobs report uwROjGCH6kU-00497-00113167-00113447 wage growth in line with expectations uwROjGCH6kU-00498-00113448-00113799 there's nothing here that's likely to uwROjGCH6kU-00499-00113800-00114086 prompt concerns that wages uwROjGCH6kU-00500-00114088-00114247 are starting to uwROjGCH6kU-00501-00114248-00114686 accelerate aggressively so uwROjGCH6kU-00502-00114688-00114958 all in all a fairly neutral jobs report uwROjGCH6kU-00503-00114959-00115231 fairly positive i would suggest uwROjGCH6kU-00504-00115232-00115423 for risk but does it really change the uwROjGCH6kU-00505-00115424-00115575 overall direction of travel when it uwROjGCH6kU-00506-00115576-00115847 comes to equity markets i would suggest uwROjGCH6kU-00507-00115848-00116063 not really and i think attention will uwROjGCH6kU-00508-00116064-00116175 now turn uwROjGCH6kU-00509-00116176-00116447 to next week's uscpi report uwROjGCH6kU-00510-00116448-00116766 which is duel on the 11th of may now uwROjGCH6kU-00511-00116767-00116902 that i think is probably going to be uwROjGCH6kU-00512-00116903-00117151 more important than today's payrolls uwROjGCH6kU-00513-00117152-00117431 report now i know richard that i haven't uwROjGCH6kU-00514-00117432-00117590 gone through aussie dollar or canadian uwROjGCH6kU-00515-00117591-00117695 dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00516-00117696-00117895 don't worry i haven't forgotten you i uwROjGCH6kU-00517-00117896-00118143 will come on to that shortly because uwROjGCH6kU-00518-00118144-00118302 obviously we've seen a canadian jobs uwROjGCH6kU-00519-00118303-00118566 report as well which also has posted a uwROjGCH6kU-00520-00118567-00118854 fairly decent number um well let's look uwROjGCH6kU-00521-00118855-00118990 at this i mean to be quite honest with uwROjGCH6kU-00522-00118991-00119231 dollar cad looking at this this chart uwROjGCH6kU-00523-00119232-00119327 here uwROjGCH6kU-00524-00119328-00119495 we're pretty much in a range trade on uwROjGCH6kU-00525-00119496-00119607 that so uwROjGCH6kU-00526-00119608-00119863 i would suggest that canadian money the uwROjGCH6kU-00527-00119864-00120086 bank of canada monetary policy is going uwROjGCH6kU-00528-00120088-00120319 to pretty much shadow u.s monetary uwROjGCH6kU-00529-00120320-00120534 policy and as a consequence of that uwROjGCH6kU-00530-00120535-00120751 we're going to continue to trade in the uwROjGCH6kU-00531-00120752-00121071 range that we've been trading in uwROjGCH6kU-00532-00121072-00121358 since the start of this year so uwROjGCH6kU-00533-00121359-00121590 anytime you get near 129 and a half one uwROjGCH6kU-00534-00121591-00121783 thirty one dollar cad uwROjGCH6kU-00535-00121783-00121983 it's probably gonna be uwROjGCH6kU-00536-00121983-00122183 fairly well offered uwROjGCH6kU-00537-00122183-00122375 and on the downside drop back to rules uwROjGCH6kU-00538-00122376-00122534 125. uwROjGCH6kU-00539-00122535-00122878 again there's really not too much to say uwROjGCH6kU-00540-00122879-00122966 on uwROjGCH6kU-00541-00122967-00123343 on dollar cad on aussie dollar now that uwROjGCH6kU-00542-00123344-00123519 has been interesting recently because uwROjGCH6kU-00543-00123520-00123678 obviously the rba uwROjGCH6kU-00544-00123679-00123823 raised rates uwROjGCH6kU-00545-00123824-00124327 at its meeting this week by 0.25 to 0.35 uwROjGCH6kU-00546-00124328-00124534 they will raise rates again uwROjGCH6kU-00547-00124535-00124743 next month you can pretty much guarantee uwROjGCH6kU-00548-00124744-00124943 that um uwROjGCH6kU-00549-00124944-00125127 once the federal election is out of the uwROjGCH6kU-00550-00125128-00125271 way because there is an australian uwROjGCH6kU-00551-00125272-00125558 election on may the 21st uwROjGCH6kU-00552-00125559-00125686 um so uwROjGCH6kU-00553-00125688-00125814 you know for me uwROjGCH6kU-00554-00125815-00126071 i think that big big support on aussie uwROjGCH6kU-00555-00126072-00126358 dollar at 69.90 uwROjGCH6kU-00556-00126359-00126478 if uwROjGCH6kU-00557-00126479-00126647 and i would be surprised if we break uwROjGCH6kU-00558-00126648-00126839 below that if i'm honest with you i uwROjGCH6kU-00559-00126840-00127063 think the aussie dollar has found itself uwROjGCH6kU-00560-00127064-00127310 a natural base you can see how solid uwROjGCH6kU-00561-00127311-00127551 that support level is down there uwROjGCH6kU-00562-00127552-00127727 obviously we've seen we've seen a little uwROjGCH6kU-00563-00127728-00127910 bit of a sell-off on the back uwROjGCH6kU-00564-00127911-00128214 of the the nasdaq and stock market sell uwROjGCH6kU-00565-00128215-00128375 off yesterday but i think what's uwROjGCH6kU-00566-00128376-00128623 interesting about this particular move uwROjGCH6kU-00567-00128624-00128758 is that we uwROjGCH6kU-00568-00128759-00129078 we didn't retest the lows of earlier uwROjGCH6kU-00569-00129079-00129302 this month so i think the fact of the uwROjGCH6kU-00570-00129303-00129566 matter is the rba is also behind the uwROjGCH6kU-00571-00129567-00129654 curve uwROjGCH6kU-00572-00129655-00129871 when it comes to raising rates it's a uwROjGCH6kU-00573-00129872-00130095 not further behind the curve than the uwROjGCH6kU-00574-00130096-00130319 federal reserve and the bank of england uwROjGCH6kU-00575-00130320-00130566 so i think you could potentially see the uwROjGCH6kU-00576-00130567-00130743 rba start to get an awful lot more uwROjGCH6kU-00577-00130744-00130871 hawkish uwROjGCH6kU-00578-00130872-00131127 now that they've ripped the band-aid off uwROjGCH6kU-00579-00131128-00131359 of the initial rate hike uwROjGCH6kU-00580-00131360-00131487 so uwROjGCH6kU-00581-00131488-00131695 this candle here suggests to me that uwROjGCH6kU-00582-00131696-00131919 there's not much appetite for selling uwROjGCH6kU-00583-00131920-00132014 aussie uwROjGCH6kU-00584-00132015-00132199 down towards the lower end of the ranges uwROjGCH6kU-00585-00132200-00132383 but as i say that could uwROjGCH6kU-00586-00132384-00132647 change going forward so i would suggest uwROjGCH6kU-00587-00132648-00132766 the aussie is probably going to uwROjGCH6kU-00588-00132767-00133054 outperform the kiwi slightly uwROjGCH6kU-00589-00133055-00133247 simply because the aussie is playing uwROjGCH6kU-00590-00133248-00133535 catch up on the rbnz the rbnz has been uwROjGCH6kU-00591-00133536-00133671 hiking rates uwROjGCH6kU-00592-00133672-00133951 for a lot longer uwROjGCH6kU-00593-00133952-00134166 therefore an awful lot more of it is uwROjGCH6kU-00594-00134167-00134335 already priced in uwROjGCH6kU-00595-00134336-00134478 which would explain uwROjGCH6kU-00596-00134479-00134735 perhaps why the kiwi is slightly under uwROjGCH6kU-00597-00134736-00134966 performing the aussie uwROjGCH6kU-00598-00134967-00135223 because if you look at aussie kiwi uwROjGCH6kU-00599-00135224-00135375 i would imagine the aussie's got to play uwROjGCH6kU-00600-00135376-00135654 an awful lot more catch-up when it comes uwROjGCH6kU-00601-00135655-00135759 to uwROjGCH6kU-00602-00135760-00136071 its performance against the kiwi dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00603-00136072-00136383 where the rbnz has pretty much had a 12 uwROjGCH6kU-00604-00136384-00136527 month head start uwROjGCH6kU-00605-00136528-00136631 on that uwROjGCH6kU-00606-00136632-00136711 so uwROjGCH6kU-00607-00136712-00136887 that is what i would describe the uwROjGCH6kU-00608-00136888-00137135 differences to with respect to kiwi and uwROjGCH6kU-00609-00137136-00137295 aussie i'm hoping uwROjGCH6kU-00610-00137296-00137575 that makes some sort of sense to you uwROjGCH6kU-00611-00137576-00137711 richard uwROjGCH6kU-00612-00137712-00137943 if it doesn't please feel free uwROjGCH6kU-00613-00137944-00138207 to ask some follow-ups uwROjGCH6kU-00614-00138208-00138383 another piece of data that might be uwROjGCH6kU-00615-00138384-00138495 interesting uwROjGCH6kU-00616-00138496-00138671 later today and it could give us an uwROjGCH6kU-00617-00138672-00138766 insight uwROjGCH6kU-00618-00138767-00138902 into the health uwROjGCH6kU-00619-00138903-00139095 of the us consumer uwROjGCH6kU-00620-00139096-00139190 is uwROjGCH6kU-00621-00139191-00139366 it's an item that doesn't get an awful uwROjGCH6kU-00622-00139367-00139607 lot of attention and perhaps it should uwROjGCH6kU-00623-00139608-00139799 because i think in terms of u.s retail uwROjGCH6kU-00624-00139800-00139990 sales going forward uwROjGCH6kU-00625-00139991-00140135 it could give an indication as to uwROjGCH6kU-00626-00140136-00140343 whether or not uwROjGCH6kU-00627-00140344-00140487 we are seeing uwROjGCH6kU-00628-00140488-00140727 what i would argue is a slow down in uwROjGCH6kU-00629-00140728-00141047 consumer spending now uwROjGCH6kU-00630-00141048-00141223 march consumer credit numbers which are uwROjGCH6kU-00631-00141224-00141407 due later this evening uwROjGCH6kU-00632-00141408-00141511 um uwROjGCH6kU-00633-00141512-00141663 are going to be interesting because of uwROjGCH6kU-00634-00141664-00141839 the big surge in borrowing that we saw uwROjGCH6kU-00635-00141840-00141983 in february uwROjGCH6kU-00636-00141984-00142366 consumer credit in the u.s surged from uwROjGCH6kU-00637-00142367-00142783 8.9 billion in january to 41.8 billion uwROjGCH6kU-00638-00142784-00143135 dollars in feb credit card lending uwROjGCH6kU-00639-00143136-00143326 contributed to 18 billion dollars of uwROjGCH6kU-00640-00143327-00143543 that amount which was a six-fold uwROjGCH6kU-00641-00143544-00143647 increase uwROjGCH6kU-00642-00143648-00143902 on the january number of 3.1 percent now uwROjGCH6kU-00643-00143903-00144087 you could argue that was just basically uwROjGCH6kU-00644-00144088-00144359 as a consequence of the fact that the us uwROjGCH6kU-00645-00144360-00144551 was battling covered restrictions people uwROjGCH6kU-00646-00144552-00144766 didn't go out in january because they uwROjGCH6kU-00647-00144767-00144975 were isolating at home and the weather uwROjGCH6kU-00648-00144976-00145047 was uwROjGCH6kU-00649-00145048-00145199 well the weather wasn't particularly uwROjGCH6kU-00650-00145200-00145319 good uwROjGCH6kU-00651-00145320-00145463 but uwROjGCH6kU-00652-00145464-00145695 there is also the fact that uwROjGCH6kU-00653-00145696-00145887 why would you load up on credit card uwROjGCH6kU-00654-00145888-00146023 spending uwROjGCH6kU-00655-00146024-00146335 if interest rates are going up uwROjGCH6kU-00656-00146336-00146671 and particularly credit card balance uwROjGCH6kU-00657-00146672-00146919 interest rates are going up uwROjGCH6kU-00658-00146920-00147111 if you've got a high level of savings uwROjGCH6kU-00659-00147112-00147302 the u.s consumer uwROjGCH6kU-00660-00147303-00147575 has benefited from three lots of fiscal uwROjGCH6kU-00661-00147576-00147847 stimulus from the us government uwROjGCH6kU-00662-00147848-00147951 so uwROjGCH6kU-00663-00147952-00148263 why would you if you had savings uwROjGCH6kU-00664-00148264-00148414 in your bank account why would you not uwROjGCH6kU-00665-00148415-00148535 use them uwROjGCH6kU-00666-00148536-00148695 why would you uwROjGCH6kU-00667-00148696-00148911 put your money on credit cards unless uwROjGCH6kU-00668-00148912-00149119 you were looking to clear that uwROjGCH6kU-00669-00149120-00149247 in uwROjGCH6kU-00670-00149248-00149502 a subsequent you know six week period uwROjGCH6kU-00671-00149503-00149790 after that so uwROjGCH6kU-00672-00149791-00149926 the consumer credit numbers which are uwROjGCH6kU-00673-00149927-00150063 due at eight o'clock this evening uwROjGCH6kU-00674-00150064-00150223 personally i'll probably be down the pub uwROjGCH6kU-00675-00150224-00150511 so i'll look at them on on on saturday uwROjGCH6kU-00676-00150512-00150607 morning uwROjGCH6kU-00677-00150608-00150839 but if they come in uwROjGCH6kU-00678-00150840-00151014 particularly strong uwROjGCH6kU-00679-00151015-00151166 that would suggest to me that the u.s uwROjGCH6kU-00680-00151167-00151302 consumer is uwROjGCH6kU-00681-00151303-00151559 living on credit at a time when interest uwROjGCH6kU-00682-00151560-00151702 rates are about to go through the roof uwROjGCH6kU-00683-00151703-00151863 the housing market in the us is already uwROjGCH6kU-00684-00151864-00152031 starting to slow down uwROjGCH6kU-00685-00152032-00152271 um with u.s mortgage rates uwROjGCH6kU-00686-00152272-00152431 you know well above well above three uwROjGCH6kU-00687-00152432-00152631 percent and potentially heading north of uwROjGCH6kU-00688-00152632-00152878 three and a half uwROjGCH6kU-00689-00152879-00153039 so it could be a double-edged sword a uwROjGCH6kU-00690-00153040-00153175 weak number could indicate a u.s uwROjGCH6kU-00691-00153176-00153447 consumer that's starting to cut back uwROjGCH6kU-00692-00153448-00153654 and not take on extra debt or another uwROjGCH6kU-00693-00153655-00153814 big number could signal uwROjGCH6kU-00694-00153815-00153959 a sign of higher borrowing at a time uwROjGCH6kU-00695-00153960-00154143 when rates are rising in the economy is uwROjGCH6kU-00696-00154144-00154287 slowing uwROjGCH6kU-00697-00154288-00154695 what the last 24 hours have told me uwROjGCH6kU-00698-00154696-00154926 is that markets don't necessarily uwROjGCH6kU-00699-00154927-00155078 believe the fed uwROjGCH6kU-00700-00155079-00155319 when it comes to uwROjGCH6kU-00701-00155320-00155511 they think that they will be able to uwROjGCH6kU-00702-00155512-00155751 deliver a soft landing for the us uwROjGCH6kU-00703-00155752-00155854 economy uwROjGCH6kU-00704-00155855-00156007 they think uwROjGCH6kU-00705-00156008-00156287 or they more likely to believe uwROjGCH6kU-00706-00156288-00156478 what mr bailey of the bank of england uwROjGCH6kU-00707-00156479-00156575 said uwROjGCH6kU-00708-00156576-00156831 that we are heading for a tough 12 uwROjGCH6kU-00709-00156832-00156943 months uwROjGCH6kU-00710-00156944-00157166 and the fact of the matter is that uwROjGCH6kU-00711-00157167-00157335 potentially uwROjGCH6kU-00712-00157336-00157502 markets are looking at what bailey said uwROjGCH6kU-00713-00157503-00157711 and what powell said and thinking uwROjGCH6kU-00714-00157712-00157926 who's being more honest with us uwROjGCH6kU-00715-00157927-00158102 and at the moment uwROjGCH6kU-00716-00158103-00158414 the markets think perhaps andrew bailey uwROjGCH6kU-00717-00158415-00158639 is probably being more honest than mr uwROjGCH6kU-00718-00158640-00158726 powell uwROjGCH6kU-00719-00158727-00159031 and that would explain why yesterday uwROjGCH6kU-00720-00159032-00159311 and this morning we've seen weakness in uwROjGCH6kU-00721-00159312-00159551 equity markets more broadly if you look uwROjGCH6kU-00722-00159552-00159807 at the way the dax has been performing uwROjGCH6kU-00723-00159808-00159887 it's uwROjGCH6kU-00724-00159888-00160183 set to finish lower for the fifth week uwROjGCH6kU-00725-00160184-00160383 in a row uwROjGCH6kU-00726-00160384-00160535 and we can see that if we change this to uwROjGCH6kU-00727-00160536-00160759 a weekly chart yeah there we go uwROjGCH6kU-00728-00160760-00161087 five weeks on the spin down down down uwROjGCH6kU-00729-00161088-00161311 so uwROjGCH6kU-00730-00161312-00161526 that is the way that i'm going to be uwROjGCH6kU-00731-00161527-00161719 looking and approaching equity markets uwROjGCH6kU-00732-00161720-00161895 over the course of the next few days uwROjGCH6kU-00733-00161896-00162135 it's about selling into strength uwROjGCH6kU-00734-00162136-00162366 against the trend line resistances uwROjGCH6kU-00735-00162367-00162543 looking at the dollar uwROjGCH6kU-00736-00162544-00162775 and buying dollar on dips uwROjGCH6kU-00737-00162776-00163031 until such times if we get some evidence uwROjGCH6kU-00738-00163032-00163399 that perhaps uwROjGCH6kU-00739-00163400-00163639 inflation has started to peak uwROjGCH6kU-00740-00163640-00163838 certainly in terms of the cpi numbers uwROjGCH6kU-00741-00163839-00164038 and we've also got usppi next week as uwROjGCH6kU-00742-00164039-00164343 well producer prices factory gate prices uwROjGCH6kU-00743-00164344-00164711 they were 11.2 in march and they rose uwROjGCH6kU-00744-00164712-00164878 from the february numbers uwROjGCH6kU-00745-00164879-00165126 so it seems rather strange that markets uwROjGCH6kU-00746-00165127-00165423 are predicting that cpi for next week uwROjGCH6kU-00747-00165424-00165719 will decline from 8.5 uwROjGCH6kU-00748-00165720-00165911 to 8.1 uwROjGCH6kU-00749-00165912-00166223 that seems rather counterintuitive to me uwROjGCH6kU-00750-00166224-00166399 it'll be good news if it is because it uwROjGCH6kU-00751-00166400-00166583 essentially means that perhaps uwROjGCH6kU-00752-00166584-00166759 the worst of inflation in the u.s is uwROjGCH6kU-00753-00166760-00166863 over uwROjGCH6kU-00754-00166864-00167111 but if you've seen us natural gas prices uwROjGCH6kU-00755-00167112-00167351 this week you'd have to think that uwROjGCH6kU-00756-00167352-00167447 that's uwROjGCH6kU-00757-00167448-00167711 that is not right u.s natural gas prices uwROjGCH6kU-00758-00167712-00167911 this week have actually uwROjGCH6kU-00759-00167912-00168031 gone up uwROjGCH6kU-00760-00168032-00168214 so uwROjGCH6kU-00761-00168215-00168383 you know you you've uwROjGCH6kU-00762-00168384-00168687 and you can see that here uwROjGCH6kU-00763-00168688-00168871 so there's potentially more inflation in uwROjGCH6kU-00764-00168872-00169023 the pipeline uwROjGCH6kU-00765-00169024-00169159 for uwROjGCH6kU-00766-00169160-00169407 u.s consumers going forward and yes uwROjGCH6kU-00767-00169408-00169590 natural gas doesn't get anywhere near as uwROjGCH6kU-00768-00169591-00169783 much use in the summer uwROjGCH6kU-00769-00169784-00169943 and obviously there's also a lot of us uwROjGCH6kU-00770-00169944-00170111 natural gas being uwROjGCH6kU-00771-00170112-00170478 exported to europe to try and replenish uwROjGCH6kU-00772-00170479-00170623 supplies there uwROjGCH6kU-00773-00170624-00170895 but if we also look at say for example uwROjGCH6kU-00774-00170896-00171190 and commodity prices we're also seeing uwROjGCH6kU-00775-00171191-00171407 what i would call an awful lot of stress uwROjGCH6kU-00776-00171408-00171583 starting to get built in uwROjGCH6kU-00777-00171584-00171814 there as well so in terms of uwROjGCH6kU-00778-00171815-00171926 wheat uwROjGCH6kU-00779-00171927-00172231 and corn though mercifully we seem to be uwROjGCH6kU-00780-00172232-00172454 trading sideways when it comes to wheat uwROjGCH6kU-00781-00172455-00172663 prices uwROjGCH6kU-00782-00172664-00172887 but it is remarkable that uwROjGCH6kU-00783-00172888-00173190 the way these commodity prices are uwROjGCH6kU-00784-00173191-00173423 shadowing each other you've got uwROjGCH6kU-00785-00173424-00173631 brent crude basically behaving in a very uwROjGCH6kU-00786-00173632-00173847 similar pattern in terms of the peaks uwROjGCH6kU-00787-00173848-00173999 that we saw in march uwROjGCH6kU-00788-00174000-00174199 and then trading sideways and that's uwROjGCH6kU-00789-00174200-00174463 what brent crude is doing right now if uwROjGCH6kU-00790-00174464-00174719 we look at it here it's up again uwROjGCH6kU-00791-00174720-00174847 and again uwROjGCH6kU-00792-00174848-00175083 trading sideways but uwROjGCH6kU-00793-00175084-00175295 nonetheless inflation is going to be a uwROjGCH6kU-00794-00175296-00175447 clear and present danger for quite some uwROjGCH6kU-00795-00175448-00175623 time to come uwROjGCH6kU-00796-00175624-00175735 okay uwROjGCH6kU-00797-00175736-00175983 ladies and gents do any of you have any uwROjGCH6kU-00798-00175984-00176119 other questions for anything that i uwROjGCH6kU-00799-00176120-00176335 haven't already covered uwROjGCH6kU-00800-00176336-00176543 because now is the perfect time uwROjGCH6kU-00801-00176544-00176743 ask me a question what do you want me to uwROjGCH6kU-00802-00176744-00177526 look at uwROjGCH6kU-00803-00177527-00177711 i'm just going to uwROjGCH6kU-00804-00177712-00177895 see if there's anything that i've missed uwROjGCH6kU-00805-00177896-00178263 out uwROjGCH6kU-00806-00178264-00178559 so just need to get rid of that uwROjGCH6kU-00807-00178560-00178854 worry about that ladies and gents uwROjGCH6kU-00808-00178855-00179014 just need uwROjGCH6kU-00809-00179015-00179183 to uwROjGCH6kU-00810-00179184-00179283 get uwROjGCH6kU-00811-00179284-00179526 shot like that uwROjGCH6kU-00812-00179527-00179726 someone just trying to contact me sorry uwROjGCH6kU-00813-00179727-00179871 about that uwROjGCH6kU-00814-00179872-00180078 um uwROjGCH6kU-00815-00180079-00180302 okay uwROjGCH6kU-00816-00180303-00180535 yeah i mean iag i mean to be quite uwROjGCH6kU-00817-00180536-00180743 honest i was talking i was talking to uwROjGCH6kU-00818-00180744-00180983 the bbc world service about iag this uwROjGCH6kU-00819-00180984-00181071 morning uwROjGCH6kU-00820-00181072-00181287 and i got to say uwROjGCH6kU-00821-00181288-00181502 it's really disappointing when you look uwROjGCH6kU-00822-00181503-00181719 at the way iag has performed relative to uwROjGCH6kU-00823-00181720-00181847 lufthansa uwROjGCH6kU-00824-00181848-00182071 and air france klm i mean they're uwROjGCH6kU-00825-00182072-00182166 obviously uwROjGCH6kU-00826-00182167-00182287 they're obviously uwROjGCH6kU-00827-00182288-00182454 paying the price for getting rid of too uwROjGCH6kU-00828-00182455-00182614 many staff uwROjGCH6kU-00829-00182615-00182854 and the fact of the matter is uwROjGCH6kU-00830-00182855-00182966 i would suggest they're a pretty uwROjGCH6kU-00831-00182967-00183159 dysfunctional airline they've got too uwROjGCH6kU-00832-00183160-00183407 many brands they've got iberia uwROjGCH6kU-00833-00183408-00183638 they've got air lingus and obviously uwROjGCH6kU-00834-00183639-00183863 they've got british airways and british uwROjGCH6kU-00835-00183864-00184038 airways there hasn't been anywhere near uwROjGCH6kU-00836-00184039-00184175 enough investment uwROjGCH6kU-00837-00184176-00184431 into that airline and i think there is uwROjGCH6kU-00838-00184432-00184647 some speculation that they could come uwROjGCH6kU-00839-00184648-00184887 under pressure from brussels uwROjGCH6kU-00840-00184888-00185263 to spin off the uk brand and i i uwROjGCH6kU-00841-00185264-00185447 potentially don't think that's uwROjGCH6kU-00842-00185448-00185735 such a bad idea because i think under uwROjGCH6kU-00843-00185736-00185871 iag uwROjGCH6kU-00844-00185872-00186078 it's become a bit tatty uwROjGCH6kU-00845-00186079-00186223 there has been a bit of a pickup in uwROjGCH6kU-00846-00186224-00186399 premium and business travel in the first uwROjGCH6kU-00847-00186400-00186550 quarter they've obviously had their uwROjGCH6kU-00848-00186551-00186783 problems with i.t issues obviously their uwROjGCH6kU-00849-00186784-00186926 asia routes are suffering because of uwROjGCH6kU-00850-00186927-00187126 china and what have you uwROjGCH6kU-00851-00187127-00187423 but north atlantic should be uwROjGCH6kU-00852-00187424-00187631 fairly decent and uwROjGCH6kU-00853-00187632-00187887 they expect to return to full capacity uwROjGCH6kU-00854-00187888-00188102 on the north atlantic routes by uwROjGCH6kU-00855-00188103-00188223 q3 uwROjGCH6kU-00856-00188224-00188487 so uwROjGCH6kU-00857-00188488-00188695 i would suggest that potentially uwROjGCH6kU-00858-00188696-00188871 the bad news uwROjGCH6kU-00859-00188872-00189095 um an awful lot of the bad news is uwROjGCH6kU-00860-00189096-00189326 priced in and barring any mishaps you uwROjGCH6kU-00861-00189327-00189550 can see from this chart here uwROjGCH6kU-00862-00189551-00189671 that um uwROjGCH6kU-00863-00189672-00189799 apart from uwROjGCH6kU-00864-00189800-00190078 these two days here uwROjGCH6kU-00865-00190079-00190238 the shares have found fairly fairly uwROjGCH6kU-00866-00190239-00190550 decent steady buying interest in around uwROjGCH6kU-00867-00190551-00190814 the low the low 120s so uwROjGCH6kU-00868-00190815-00190926 um uwROjGCH6kU-00869-00190927-00191126 i think as long as there are no uwROjGCH6kU-00870-00191127-00191390 further surprises in inverted commas uwROjGCH6kU-00871-00191391-00191599 we're eight percent down today uwROjGCH6kU-00872-00191600-00191838 um could have been a lot worse uwROjGCH6kU-00873-00191839-00192023 then perhaps we could we'll see a pickup uwROjGCH6kU-00874-00192024-00192238 as we head into the summer season uwROjGCH6kU-00875-00192239-00192487 the only outlier that i do have british uwROjGCH6kU-00876-00192488-00192743 airways is obviously fuel costs because uwROjGCH6kU-00877-00192744-00192999 of margins and the impact on margins and uwROjGCH6kU-00878-00193000-00193111 also uwROjGCH6kU-00879-00193112-00193447 um an income squeeze uwROjGCH6kU-00880-00193448-00193550 if uwROjGCH6kU-00881-00193551-00193854 people aren't feeling particularly flush uwROjGCH6kU-00882-00193855-00194014 then they're not going to go on holiday uwROjGCH6kU-00883-00194015-00194231 abroad transatlantic and obviously uwROjGCH6kU-00884-00194232-00194399 that's where british airways makes most uwROjGCH6kU-00885-00194400-00194566 of its money doesn't make any of its uwROjGCH6kU-00886-00194567-00194743 money on domestic uwROjGCH6kU-00887-00194744-00194950 obviously also depends on how well uwROjGCH6kU-00888-00194951-00195087 iberia do uwROjGCH6kU-00889-00195088-00195295 on their south america routes uwROjGCH6kU-00890-00195296-00195478 how positive that is uwROjGCH6kU-00891-00195479-00195766 but i would argue relative to other uwROjGCH6kU-00892-00195767-00195878 airlines uwROjGCH6kU-00893-00195879-00196183 that it's probably the cheapest of them uwROjGCH6kU-00894-00196184-00196326 with the potential uwROjGCH6kU-00895-00196327-00196526 for a little bit of a pickup but at the uwROjGCH6kU-00896-00196527-00196638 moment uwROjGCH6kU-00897-00196639-00196831 i find it very difficult to be overly uwROjGCH6kU-00898-00196832-00197038 enthusiastic about any airlines despite uwROjGCH6kU-00899-00197039-00197311 the fact that u.s airlines uwROjGCH6kU-00900-00197312-00197519 are much more optimistic but then they uwROjGCH6kU-00901-00197520-00197663 make an awful lot of money on their own uwROjGCH6kU-00902-00197664-00198102 domestic routes uwROjGCH6kU-00903-00198103-00198278 so uwROjGCH6kU-00904-00198279-00198543 hopefully that wasn't too um uwROjGCH6kU-00905-00198544-00198726 long-winded uwROjGCH6kU-00906-00198727-00200126 uh phil and answered your question uwROjGCH6kU-00907-00200127-00200414 the data from the data from the non-farm uwROjGCH6kU-00908-00200415-00200654 results comes through reuters feed so uwROjGCH6kU-00909-00200655-00200807 basically what you've got is your market uwROjGCH6kU-00910-00200808-00201047 calendar here uwROjGCH6kU-00911-00201048-00201343 and it basically feeds in through uwROjGCH6kU-00912-00201344-00201559 through the market calendar through here uwROjGCH6kU-00913-00201560-00201759 and with the market calendar uwROjGCH6kU-00914-00201760-00201999 you can basically set alerts uwROjGCH6kU-00915-00202000-00202278 for the numbers to come out so uwROjGCH6kU-00916-00202279-00202638 i'd set alerts on the non-farm payrolls uwROjGCH6kU-00917-00202639-00202854 to basically pop up uwROjGCH6kU-00918-00202855-00203102 when the numbers were released uwROjGCH6kU-00919-00203103-00203414 so if you want if you want if you want uwROjGCH6kU-00920-00203415-00203566 the numbers to uwROjGCH6kU-00921-00203567-00203711 send you an alert uwROjGCH6kU-00922-00203712-00203975 then basically select the alert function uwROjGCH6kU-00923-00203976-00204111 on the right hand side of the market uwROjGCH6kU-00924-00204112-00204326 calendar here and every time they come uwROjGCH6kU-00925-00204327-00204511 out it'll send you a warning that the uwROjGCH6kU-00926-00204512-00204711 numbers are due so uwROjGCH6kU-00927-00204712-00204934 but it comes by way of a reuters feed uwROjGCH6kU-00928-00204935-00205086 which comes into the back of the market uwROjGCH6kU-00929-00205087-00205214 calendar so uwROjGCH6kU-00930-00205215-00205398 i hope that answers your question uwROjGCH6kU-00931-00205400-00206446 christopher uwROjGCH6kU-00932-00206448-00206590 right i've just been asked a question uwROjGCH6kU-00933-00206591-00206775 use wires today saying ecb going to uwROjGCH6kU-00934-00206776-00207023 start rate rises soon uwROjGCH6kU-00935-00207023-00207223 yeah i mean there's an element of that uwROjGCH6kU-00936-00207223-00207479 you've also got i think the euro's up uwROjGCH6kU-00937-00207480-00207566 today uwROjGCH6kU-00938-00207567-00207798 simply on the basis of the fact that uwROjGCH6kU-00939-00207800-00208023 we're heading into the weekend uwROjGCH6kU-00940-00208023-00208158 so uwROjGCH6kU-00941-00208159-00208294 um you're getting a little bit of short uwROjGCH6kU-00942-00208296-00208510 covering a bit of hawkish commentary uwROjGCH6kU-00943-00208511-00208775 that they could hike rates in july uwROjGCH6kU-00944-00208776-00208910 they might uwROjGCH6kU-00945-00208911-00209110 but they've also got to be uwROjGCH6kU-00946-00209111-00209382 very cognizant of the fact that uwROjGCH6kU-00947-00209383-00209590 if they do hike rates and are too uwROjGCH6kU-00948-00209591-00209903 aggressive they could blow out spreads uwROjGCH6kU-00949-00209904-00210006 on uwROjGCH6kU-00950-00210007-00210310 italian borrowing and the weaker uwROjGCH6kU-00951-00210311-00210439 countries uwROjGCH6kU-00952-00210440-00210694 um which they don't want to do so their uwROjGCH6kU-00953-00210696-00210863 scope for raising rates i think is uwROjGCH6kU-00954-00210864-00211151 fairly limited i think we could get a 25 uwROjGCH6kU-00955-00211152-00211367 basis point rate hiking uwROjGCH6kU-00956-00211367-00211479 in um uwROjGCH6kU-00957-00211480-00211734 in july but by then the fed will have uwROjGCH6kU-00958-00211735-00211998 hiked by another 50. so uwROjGCH6kU-00959-00212000-00212094 you know uwROjGCH6kU-00960-00212096-00212239 what you're seeing here is a little bit uwROjGCH6kU-00961-00212240-00212391 of position adjustment i think ahead of uwROjGCH6kU-00962-00212392-00212534 the weekend you're also getting a little uwROjGCH6kU-00963-00212535-00212671 bit of uwROjGCH6kU-00964-00212671-00212958 sterling weakness euro sterling strength uwROjGCH6kU-00965-00212959-00213039 so uwROjGCH6kU-00966-00213040-00213303 euro's getting bit on the back of uwROjGCH6kU-00967-00213304-00213551 sterling getting sold against the euro uwROjGCH6kU-00968-00213552-00214006 so you might get a move back towards 106 uwROjGCH6kU-00969-00214007-00214303 on euro dollar but i'm still of the uwROjGCH6kU-00970-00214304-00214534 opinion that we drift lower on on euro uwROjGCH6kU-00971-00214535-00214727 dollar though it could well be slightly uwROjGCH6kU-00972-00214728-00214863 more resilient uwROjGCH6kU-00973-00214864-00215071 um than say for example the pound is in uwROjGCH6kU-00974-00215071-00215246 the short to medium term uwROjGCH6kU-00975-00215248-00215567 but as i said in the previous uwROjGCH6kU-00976-00215567-00215871 as i said previously euro sterling uwROjGCH6kU-00977-00215871-00216055 has consistently found it very very uwROjGCH6kU-00978-00216056-00216191 difficult uwROjGCH6kU-00979-00216192-00216319 this year uwROjGCH6kU-00980-00216319-00216542 to really break through uwROjGCH6kU-00981-00216544-00216767 this this war even last year for for uwROjGCH6kU-00982-00216767-00216879 that matter uwROjGCH6kU-00983-00216880-00217198 the 86 area so we could squeeze back to uwROjGCH6kU-00984-00217200-00217542 86 on euro sterling but even then uwROjGCH6kU-00985-00217544-00217742 you know 86.50 uwROjGCH6kU-00986-00217744-00217903 there is a limit i think to how high uwROjGCH6kU-00987-00217904-00218094 euro sterling can go uwROjGCH6kU-00988-00218096-00218271 because i'm not sure that the euros uwROjGCH6kU-00989-00218271-00218503 european central bank has the capacity uwROjGCH6kU-00990-00218504-00218863 to raise rates by that much uwROjGCH6kU-00991-00218864-00219119 that's no problem um christopher quite uwROjGCH6kU-00992-00219119-00219287 more than more than happy more than uwROjGCH6kU-00993-00219288-00219406 happy to help uwROjGCH6kU-00994-00219407-00219623 if um if you wish uwROjGCH6kU-00995-00219623-00219727 um uwROjGCH6kU-00996-00219728-00219998 drop me an email um that you will you uwROjGCH6kU-00997-00220000-00220215 will be getting a feedback email uwROjGCH6kU-00998-00220216-00220471 um after this webinar is finished now i uwROjGCH6kU-00999-00220471-00220671 think in the next 24 to 48 hours you'll uwROjGCH6kU-01000-00220671-00220846 get a follow-up email uwROjGCH6kU-01001-00220848-00221015 um if you want someone to give you a uwROjGCH6kU-01002-00221016-00221231 call christopher and walk you through uwROjGCH6kU-01003-00221232-00221431 some of the features of the platform i uwROjGCH6kU-01004-00221432-00221734 can arrange that for you uwROjGCH6kU-01005-00221735-00221863 so uwROjGCH6kU-01006-00221864-00222015 just just let me know just reply to the uwROjGCH6kU-01007-00222016-00222231 email that you get uwROjGCH6kU-01008-00222232-00222415 i think it may be on monday come to uwROjGCH6kU-01009-00222416-00222551 think of it but you will be getting an uwROjGCH6kU-01010-00222552-00222742 email asking for feedback uwROjGCH6kU-01011-00222744-00222910 anyway uwROjGCH6kU-01012-00222911-00223158 hopefully that's um uwROjGCH6kU-01013-00223159-00223271 all for uwROjGCH6kU-01014-00223271-00223463 today ladies and gents thank you very uwROjGCH6kU-01015-00223464-00223710 much for your time dropping in and uwROjGCH6kU-01016-00223711-00223839 listening in uwROjGCH6kU-01017-00223840-00223982 and um uwROjGCH6kU-01018-00223983-00224151 i hope you all have um i hope you all uwROjGCH6kU-01019-00224152-00224455 have a great weekend and um uwROjGCH6kU-01020-00224456-00224719 if you are interested in catching up on uwROjGCH6kU-01021-00224719-00224879 on my thoughts and what have you on a uwROjGCH6kU-01022-00224880-00225063 week-to-week basis i do do a weekly uwROjGCH6kU-01023-00225064-00225175 video uwROjGCH6kU-01024-00225176-00225334 which usually goes up on the news and uwROjGCH6kU-01025-00225335-00225687 analysis section of the website um uwROjGCH6kU-01026-00225688-00225910 every friday so uwROjGCH6kU-01027-00225911-00226167 today's video will probably will uwROjGCH6kU-01028-00226167-00226294 cover essentially what i've covered uwROjGCH6kU-01029-00226296-00226415 today so uwROjGCH6kU-01030-00226416-00226575 probably won't need to tune into that uwROjGCH6kU-01031-00226576-00226855 but generally every friday i do uwROjGCH6kU-01032-00226856-00227055 usually a 20-25 minute video talking uwROjGCH6kU-01033-00227056-00227239 about what's going on during the week uwROjGCH6kU-01034-00227240-00227423 and what's coming up for the week ahead uwROjGCH6kU-01035-00227423-00227687 so please feel free to tune into that on uwROjGCH6kU-01036-00227688-00227894 a week to week basis otherwise have a uwROjGCH6kU-01037-00227896-00228031 great weekend hope you enjoy the uwROjGCH6kU-01038-00228032-00228239 sunshine out there and i'll speak to you uwROjGCH6kU-01039-00228240-00228463 all same time same place uwROjGCH6kU-01040-00228464-00228575 um uwROjGCH6kU-01041-00228576-00228694 in a couple of months because there uwROjGCH6kU-01042-00228696-00228982 won't be a payrolls report next week uwROjGCH6kU-01043-00228983-00229151 thanks very much for listening guys and uwROjGCH6kU-01044-00229152-00229492 have a great weekend u-hO-ZN7CvI-00000-00000053-00000430 hello all welcome to the embedded iot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00001-00000431-00000701 Linux course for red blue teams at pen u-hO-ZN7CvI-00002-00000702-00000904 tester Academy u-hO-ZN7CvI-00003-00000905-00001157 my name is Vivek ramachandran and I am u-hO-ZN7CvI-00004-00001158-00001439 the instructor for the course u-hO-ZN7CvI-00005-00001440-00001780 now in this video we will understand the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00006-00001782-00002063 booting process of an embedded device in u-hO-ZN7CvI-00007-00002064-00002225 great detail u-hO-ZN7CvI-00008-00002226-00002417 so let's get started u-hO-ZN7CvI-00009-00002418-00002710 now if you were to architecturally look u-hO-ZN7CvI-00010-00002711-00002908 at an embedded system we are going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00011-00002909-00003155 have the soc which is a system on chip u-hO-ZN7CvI-00012-00003156-00003359 or the microcontroller u-hO-ZN7CvI-00013-00003360-00003670 this is really the brains of the system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00014-00003671-00003953 now the soc is going to require some u-hO-ZN7CvI-00015-00003954-00004169 kind of a persistent storage such as u-hO-ZN7CvI-00016-00004170-00004451 flash storage where the operating system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00017-00004452-00004691 or programs it has to run is going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00018-00004692-00004954 you know be stored across reboots u-hO-ZN7CvI-00019-00004955-00005297 it will also require you know Ram where u-hO-ZN7CvI-00020-00005298-00005686 it can load programs at runtime and run u-hO-ZN7CvI-00021-00005687-00005920 now apart from this depending on the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00022-00005921-00006109 functionality of this embedded system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00023-00006110-00006413 there may be different peripheral ports u-hO-ZN7CvI-00024-00006414-00006784 debug ports gpio pins Etc available u-hO-ZN7CvI-00025-00006786-00007006 now it's important to note that most u-hO-ZN7CvI-00026-00007008-00007439 modern socs typically support dozens of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00027-00007440-00007645 different external peripheral devices u-hO-ZN7CvI-00028-00007645-00008020 however the number of pins on them are u-hO-ZN7CvI-00029-00008022-00008278 sometimes not enough to be able to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00030-00008279-00008609 interface with every device they support u-hO-ZN7CvI-00031-00008610-00008831 and this is really where a pin u-hO-ZN7CvI-00032-00008832-00009113 multiplexing happens where we can u-hO-ZN7CvI-00033-00009114-00009413 configure the soc to go ahead and use u-hO-ZN7CvI-00034-00009414-00009785 certain pins and only go and talk with u-hO-ZN7CvI-00035-00009786-00010181 certain peripheral devices with them u-hO-ZN7CvI-00036-00010182-00010439 okay so now let's go ahead and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00037-00010440-00010745 understand the Linux boot process from u-hO-ZN7CvI-00038-00010746-00011063 an embedded devices perspective u-hO-ZN7CvI-00039-00011064-00011260 the first stage is really the boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00040-00011261-00011387 loaders u-hO-ZN7CvI-00041-00011388-00011746 now when we go ahead and power a board u-hO-ZN7CvI-00042-00011747-00012053 what happens is control passes to a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00043-00012054-00012359 location called the reset vector this is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00044-00012360-00012553 something the manufacturer has already u-hO-ZN7CvI-00045-00012554-00012863 pre-programmed onto the board u-hO-ZN7CvI-00046-00012863-00013169 now at the reset Vector typically the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00047-00013169-00013558 soc's boot ROM loader exists and at that u-hO-ZN7CvI-00048-00013559-00013822 point the ROM bootloader will start u-hO-ZN7CvI-00049-00013823-00014051 executing u-hO-ZN7CvI-00050-00014052-00014315 now typically the task of the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00051-00014316-00014549 bootloader is to set up some basic u-hO-ZN7CvI-00052-00014550-00014644 Hardware u-hO-ZN7CvI-00053-00014645-00014975 and then go about finding the first u-hO-ZN7CvI-00054-00014976-00015311 stage bootloader from a boot device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00055-00015312-00015580 so this boot device could be you know on u-hO-ZN7CvI-00056-00015581-00015863 a network could be over a memory bus u-hO-ZN7CvI-00057-00015863-00016144 could be USB you know could be an SD u-hO-ZN7CvI-00058-00016145-00016343 card what not u-hO-ZN7CvI-00059-00016344-00016835 so once the ROM bootloader has gone u-hO-ZN7CvI-00060-00016836-00017015 through the different boot devices and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00061-00017016-00017279 located the first stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00062-00017280-00017567 it goes ahead and loads the first stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00063-00017568-00017872 bootloader typically into the soc's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00064-00017873-00018029 internal memory u-hO-ZN7CvI-00065-00018030-00018322 and then passes control to it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00066-00018323-00018593 now the first stage bootloader will then u-hO-ZN7CvI-00067-00018594-00018797 go ahead fetch the second stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00068-00018798-00018947 bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00069-00018948-00019294 which will then be loaded into RAM and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00070-00019295-00019457 the first stage bootloader passes u-hO-ZN7CvI-00071-00019458-00019661 control to the second stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00072-00019662-00019877 which then starts running u-hO-ZN7CvI-00073-00019878-00020141 now keep in mind that interestingly I'm u-hO-ZN7CvI-00074-00020142-00020393 always saying passes control u-hO-ZN7CvI-00075-00020394-00020711 rather than calling and and this is very u-hO-ZN7CvI-00076-00020712-00020908 important to distinguish u-hO-ZN7CvI-00077-00020909-00021155 typically when you say pass control what u-hO-ZN7CvI-00078-00021156-00021467 you actually mean is after that the the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00079-00021468-00021658 previous program which was running u-hO-ZN7CvI-00080-00021659-00021899 innovate ceases to exist u-hO-ZN7CvI-00081-00021900-00022139 when you say calls it actually means u-hO-ZN7CvI-00082-00022140-00022294 that when the next stage finishes u-hO-ZN7CvI-00083-00022295-00022499 running it will actually return back to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00084-00022500-00022757 the previous stage which does not happen u-hO-ZN7CvI-00085-00022758-00023014 with bootloaders at all so when we say u-hO-ZN7CvI-00086-00023015-00023267 the ROM bootloader passes control to the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00087-00023268-00023525 first stage bootloader that means after u-hO-ZN7CvI-00088-00023526-00023789 that the ROM bootloader isn't going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00089-00023790-00024017 run till the next reset u-hO-ZN7CvI-00090-00024018-00024214 the first stage bootloader once again u-hO-ZN7CvI-00091-00024215-00024461 passes control to the second stage and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00092-00024462-00024803 then ceases to exist u-hO-ZN7CvI-00093-00024804-00025128 now depending on the embedded system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00094-00025129-00025505 there could be just one stage or you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00095-00025506-00025775 know multiple stages and all of this u-hO-ZN7CvI-00096-00025776-00025961 depends on the architecture of that u-hO-ZN7CvI-00097-00025962-00026231 embedded system and how many stages it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00098-00026232-00026531 would require to load you know a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00099-00026532-00026752 powerful bootloader like uboot and we'll u-hO-ZN7CvI-00100-00026754-00026981 get into that in the context of the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00101-00026982-00027233 beaglebone black in just a bit u-hO-ZN7CvI-00102-00027233-00027517 now the second stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00103-00027518-00027851 its primary responsibility is to go u-hO-ZN7CvI-00104-00027852-00028108 ahead and load the kernel and the device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00105-00028110-00028337 tree into RAM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00106-00028338-00028751 and basically look at its own settings u-hO-ZN7CvI-00107-00028752-00028979 which could be statically embedded or u-hO-ZN7CvI-00108-00028980-00029164 this could be some kind of an external u-hO-ZN7CvI-00109-00029166-00029333 configuration file u-hO-ZN7CvI-00110-00029333-00029620 and then using that u-hO-ZN7CvI-00111-00029622-00029879 start the kernel pass the kernel the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00112-00029880-00030233 boot arguments and that's it at that u-hO-ZN7CvI-00113-00030233-00030424 point on the second stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00114-00030425-00030652 ceases to exist and the limex kernel u-hO-ZN7CvI-00115-00030654-00030977 takes over u-hO-ZN7CvI-00116-00030977-00031270 the kernel in turn is of course going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00117-00031272-00031433 initialize you know the different u-hO-ZN7CvI-00118-00031433-00031751 Hardware components is going to go ahead u-hO-ZN7CvI-00119-00031752-00032008 look into the boot arguments passed by u-hO-ZN7CvI-00120-00032010-00032368 the bootloader locate the rule root file u-hO-ZN7CvI-00121-00032369-00032596 system and then it'll Mount the root u-hO-ZN7CvI-00122-00032597-00032861 file system once it successfully does u-hO-ZN7CvI-00123-00032862-00033107 that it is going to search for the init u-hO-ZN7CvI-00124-00033108-00033340 process on that file system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00125-00033341-00033551 which is really the first user space u-hO-ZN7CvI-00126-00033552-00033911 process with PID 0. and then once it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00127-00033912-00034217 invokes the init process init in turn u-hO-ZN7CvI-00128-00034218-00034523 will look at its configuration files and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00129-00034524-00034877 start other user space processes u-hO-ZN7CvI-00130-00034878-00035212 so this I think is a very good summary u-hO-ZN7CvI-00131-00035213-00035543 of how the boot process works for most u-hO-ZN7CvI-00132-00035544-00035735 Linux systems u-hO-ZN7CvI-00133-00035736-00036149 and now we will focus on understanding u-hO-ZN7CvI-00134-00036150-00036461 how this works for the beaglebone black u-hO-ZN7CvI-00135-00036462-00036689 now as we discussed in the previous u-hO-ZN7CvI-00136-00036690-00036971 video the Beagle bone black is actually u-hO-ZN7CvI-00137-00036972-00037102 based on u-hO-ZN7CvI-00138-00037103-00037624 a Texas instrument SOC called the am335x u-hO-ZN7CvI-00139-00037625-00037901 series u-hO-ZN7CvI-00140-00037902-00038146 so let's actually go to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00141-00038147-00038507 their website u-hO-ZN7CvI-00142-00038508-00038687 and look at what this is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00143-00038688-00038980 so I'm first on go I first gone to the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00144-00038981-00039262 Beagle bone website where you know they u-hO-ZN7CvI-00145-00039263-00039545 have a link to the am335x so you can u-hO-ZN7CvI-00146-00039546-00039665 open this up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00147-00039666-00039857 in a new tab u-hO-ZN7CvI-00148-00039858-00040133 scroll down and then go to the technical u-hO-ZN7CvI-00149-00040134-00040361 documents page u-hO-ZN7CvI-00150-00040362-00040639 there we are am3358 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00151-00040640-00041087 Sitara arm cortex A8 fantastic u-hO-ZN7CvI-00152-00041088-00041302 let's actually open up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00153-00041303-00041596 the data sheet in a new tab and there u-hO-ZN7CvI-00154-00041597-00041818 are a bunch of documents and typically u-hO-ZN7CvI-00155-00041819-00042118 there are documents available here for u-hO-ZN7CvI-00156-00042119-00042365 people building Hardware with this SOC u-hO-ZN7CvI-00157-00042366-00042646 as well as people writing software for u-hO-ZN7CvI-00158-00042647-00042851 this SOC right so depending on which u-hO-ZN7CvI-00159-00042852-00043055 category you fall in u-hO-ZN7CvI-00160-00043056-00043289 some of these documents may be relevant u-hO-ZN7CvI-00161-00043290-00043468 to you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00162-00043469-00043607 now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00163-00043608-00043799 if you look at it there is a ton of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00164-00043800-00044117 documentation in here u-hO-ZN7CvI-00165-00044118-00044339 the one we are kind of really interested u-hO-ZN7CvI-00166-00044340-00044615 in is from a software perspective is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00167-00044616-00044896 what they call the trm or the technical u-hO-ZN7CvI-00168-00044897-00045185 reference manual and you can clearly see u-hO-ZN7CvI-00169-00045186-00045358 this is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00170-00045359-00045599 pretty huge in size so let's actually u-hO-ZN7CvI-00171-00045600-00045857 open this up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00172-00045858-00046037 I mean it's all text right I mean two to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00173-00046038-00046252 three MB of course doesn't this is 23 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00174-00046253-00046540 Megs isn't that big but when it's all u-hO-ZN7CvI-00175-00046541-00046835 text that's huge u-hO-ZN7CvI-00176-00046836-00047267 and of course it's 5 000 pages u-hO-ZN7CvI-00177-00047268-00047567 so you can clearly appreciate how u-hO-ZN7CvI-00178-00047568-00047812 complicated writing software for such a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00179-00047813-00047958 device would be u-hO-ZN7CvI-00180-00047959-00048208 and how large a team you would really u-hO-ZN7CvI-00181-00048209-00048424 require to go ahead and you know kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00182-00048425-00048605 build out an embedded system it's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00183-00048606-00048821 software Etc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00184-00048822-00048940 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00185-00048941-00049355 and this is the data sheet u-hO-ZN7CvI-00186-00049356-00049529 okay let's hold on to both of these u-hO-ZN7CvI-00187-00049530-00049696 let's let's keep them open on the tab u-hO-ZN7CvI-00188-00049697-00050393 now let's go back to our slides u-hO-ZN7CvI-00189-00050394-00050711 okay so what I've done is from the data u-hO-ZN7CvI-00190-00050712-00050908 sheet I've actually copied over the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00191-00050909-00051287 functional block diagram of the am335x u-hO-ZN7CvI-00192-00051288-00051526 now don't worry some of this stuff is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00193-00051527-00051707 going to look complicated at first u-hO-ZN7CvI-00194-00051708-00051940 glance but let me assure you it's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00195-00051941-00052163 actually really simple five thousand u-hO-ZN7CvI-00196-00052164-00052480 pages is intimidating but most of what u-hO-ZN7CvI-00197-00052482-00052750 is written there is is really very crisp u-hO-ZN7CvI-00198-00052751-00053029 beautiful technical documentation u-hO-ZN7CvI-00199-00053029-00053404 and I mean I wouldn't want to encourage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00200-00053405-00053621 you to read all of that but if if you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00201-00053622-00053807 can at least go through some of the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00202-00053808-00053944 relevant parts u-hO-ZN7CvI-00203-00053945-00054391 uh SOC documentation is one of the most u-hO-ZN7CvI-00204-00054391-00054623 exhaustive you know kind of beautiful u-hO-ZN7CvI-00205-00054624-00054911 documentation you will ever get to read u-hO-ZN7CvI-00206-00054912-00055115 in the technical business u-hO-ZN7CvI-00207-00055116-00055337 simply because if Texas Instruments or u-hO-ZN7CvI-00208-00055338-00055571 any of the other guys don't document u-hO-ZN7CvI-00209-00055572-00055835 this properly no one is going to go u-hO-ZN7CvI-00210-00055836-00055973 ahead and build a board and write u-hO-ZN7CvI-00211-00055974-00056303 software for these uh you know socs and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00212-00056304-00056537 microcontrollers and all of that so they u-hO-ZN7CvI-00213-00056538-00056885 do an amazing job at documenting u-hO-ZN7CvI-00214-00056886-00057166 okay so we see that this is an arm u-hO-ZN7CvI-00215-00057167-00057365 cortex A8 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00216-00057366-00057611 which can go up to one gigahertz u-hO-ZN7CvI-00217-00057612-00057809 so the reason they say up to one u-hO-ZN7CvI-00218-00057810-00058025 gigahertz is most of the time this is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00219-00058026-00058300 hardware configurable So based on u-hO-ZN7CvI-00220-00058301-00058523 certain pin settings you can tell the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00221-00058524-00058630 processor u-hO-ZN7CvI-00222-00058632-00058847 uh you know what is the clock speed it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00223-00058848-00059080 needs to kind of go ahead and use u-hO-ZN7CvI-00224-00059082-00059411 now it has an L1 L2 cache but the key u-hO-ZN7CvI-00225-00059412-00059615 thing which strikes my eye of course is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00226-00059616-00059842 the ROM and the ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00227-00059844-00060154 and keep in mind this is inside the soc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00228-00060155-00060509 so this is inside that little ship u-hO-ZN7CvI-00229-00060510-00060887 so this only has 176 kilobyte of ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00230-00060888-00061115 this is the read-only memory u-hO-ZN7CvI-00231-00061116-00061415 and then a 64 KB Ram section is there u-hO-ZN7CvI-00232-00061416-00061697 and there is also a 64 KB shared Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00233-00061698-00061853 section u-hO-ZN7CvI-00234-00061854-00062099 so as you can clearly see u-hO-ZN7CvI-00235-00062100-00062338 the net amount of ram seems to be around u-hO-ZN7CvI-00236-00062339-00062879 128 the ROM is 176. clearly not much at u-hO-ZN7CvI-00237-00062879-00063004 all u-hO-ZN7CvI-00238-00063005-00063407 right this almost takes you back to uh u-hO-ZN7CvI-00239-00063408-00063629 probably when personal computer started u-hO-ZN7CvI-00240-00063629-00063916 right 64 KB u-hO-ZN7CvI-00241-00063917-00064204 now of course this is this is more than u-hO-ZN7CvI-00242-00064205-00064492 sufficient for uh you know the the soc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00243-00064494-00064666 to do its job u-hO-ZN7CvI-00244-00064667-00064900 and we'll talk about it in just a bit u-hO-ZN7CvI-00245-00064901-00065153 now apart from that you have a lot of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00246-00065154-00065338 peripheral controllers so you have the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00247-00065339-00065530 display controllers over here u-hO-ZN7CvI-00248-00065532-00065723 and then after that you know you have u-hO-ZN7CvI-00249-00065724-00066000 all the external ports so we clearly see u-hO-ZN7CvI-00250-00066001-00066299 you know all of these serial ports so u-hO-ZN7CvI-00251-00066300-00066623 you have uart SPI i2c bus u-hO-ZN7CvI-00252-00066624-00067013 uh can USB Etc and there are a bunch of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00253-00067014-00067343 other as well right you also have uh you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00254-00067344-00067625 know parallel devices such as the MMC u-hO-ZN7CvI-00255-00067626-00067882 the SD card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00256-00067883-00067967 Etc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00257-00067968-00068182 and then the gpio ports and then you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00258-00068183-00068369 have memory interface controllers and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00259-00068370-00068591 whatnot so this is an extremely u-hO-ZN7CvI-00260-00068592-00068741 complicated device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00261-00068742-00069005 now keep in mind it's a six uart ports u-hO-ZN7CvI-00262-00069006-00069115 right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00263-00069116-00069347 but you will have to do the pin u-hO-ZN7CvI-00264-00069348-00069538 multiplexing if you really wanted all u-hO-ZN7CvI-00265-00069539-00069749 six of them to be exposed so keep these u-hO-ZN7CvI-00266-00069750-00069988 in mind on the beaglebone black you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00267-00069989-00070211 might only find one or two uarts because u-hO-ZN7CvI-00268-00070212-00070438 using the pin multiplexing that's what u-hO-ZN7CvI-00269-00070439-00070726 they've decided to expose right now some u-hO-ZN7CvI-00270-00070727-00071047 of it is configurable very easily u-hO-ZN7CvI-00271-00071048-00071326 but a lot of times if you know things u-hO-ZN7CvI-00272-00071327-00071579 are hardwired to those pins already you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00273-00071580-00071776 might probably not want to kind of play u-hO-ZN7CvI-00274-00071777-00071963 too much with them u-hO-ZN7CvI-00275-00071964-00072119 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00276-00072120-00072461 so the the key takeaway is we have a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00277-00072462-00072713 very small ROM and we very a very small u-hO-ZN7CvI-00278-00072714-00072976 internal Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00279-00072977-00073156 now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00280-00073157-00073463 if we look at the cortex a it's memory u-hO-ZN7CvI-00281-00073464-00073775 map what you would actually find is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00282-00073776-00073979 that the boot ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00283-00073980-00074285 uh is is really the one we were kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00284-00074286-00074459 talking about over here so in the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00285-00074460-00074831 previous slide 176 ROM and if you go to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00286-00074832-00075065 the next slide you'll actually see 128 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00287-00075066-00075479 plus 48 which is 176. so this entire is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00288-00075480-00075738 actually the boot ROM right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00289-00075739-00076019 and that is the place where execution u-hO-ZN7CvI-00290-00076020-00076738 begins after the processor resets u-hO-ZN7CvI-00291-00076739-00076865 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00292-00076866-00077206 now the little bootron code which we are u-hO-ZN7CvI-00293-00077207-00077509 talking about right which is just 176 KB u-hO-ZN7CvI-00294-00077510-00077800 how advanced is it really I mean you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00295-00077801-00077956 know what is the architecture what can u-hO-ZN7CvI-00296-00077957-00078131 it really do for us u-hO-ZN7CvI-00297-00078132-00078406 now you will be completely surprised and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00298-00078407-00078581 shocked if this is the first time you're u-hO-ZN7CvI-00299-00078582-00078844 dealing with socs at such a low level u-hO-ZN7CvI-00300-00078845-00079121 that the boot ROM actually is reasonably u-hO-ZN7CvI-00301-00079122-00079306 complicated piece of software and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00302-00079307-00079481 actually pretty well accomplished u-hO-ZN7CvI-00303-00079482-00079612 software u-hO-ZN7CvI-00304-00079613-00079829 if you kind of look at the public ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00305-00079830-00080056 code architecture which is available you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00306-00080057-00080237 know with the technical reference manual u-hO-ZN7CvI-00307-00080238-00080512 you'll actually see there are kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00308-00080513-00080849 you know Library support not so my bad u-hO-ZN7CvI-00309-00080850-00081053 not Library support but rather u-hO-ZN7CvI-00310-00081054-00081425 you know support for uart USB SPI xip u-hO-ZN7CvI-00311-00081426-00081755 right xip is execution in place u-hO-ZN7CvI-00312-00081756-00081941 so these are devices where you can u-hO-ZN7CvI-00313-00081942-00082123 pretty much just execute from the device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00314-00082124-00082432 without having to copy it out to Ram or u-hO-ZN7CvI-00315-00082433-00082643 anything else u-hO-ZN7CvI-00316-00082644-00082817 and of course Hardware support we have u-hO-ZN7CvI-00317-00082818-00083123 MMC SD card this is important to us u-hO-ZN7CvI-00318-00083124-00083482 and they also support fat which is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00319-00083483-00083843 interesting tftp boot P which means it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00320-00083844-00084005 might be able to go ahead and do a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00321-00084006-00084131 network boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00322-00084132-00084556 a bunch of stuff in here now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00323-00084557-00084779 I'd just like to draw your attention to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00324-00084780-00084941 the fat part u-hO-ZN7CvI-00325-00084942-00085294 the uart part and then the MMC SD card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00326-00085295-00085469 part okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00327-00085470-00085750 so the key takeaway is even though the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00328-00085751-00086044 boot ROM code is just 176 KB and of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00329-00086045-00086237 course it probably doesn't occupy that u-hO-ZN7CvI-00330-00086238-00086575 entire space with actual code u-hO-ZN7CvI-00331-00086576-00086897 it is fairly complicated and the boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00332-00086898-00087209 ROM code already supports talking to MMC u-hO-ZN7CvI-00333-00087210-00087611 SD cards and also supports the fat file u-hO-ZN7CvI-00334-00087612-00087815 system right these are two important u-hO-ZN7CvI-00335-00087816-00088109 things you need to remember u-hO-ZN7CvI-00336-00088110-00088331 move on u-hO-ZN7CvI-00337-00088332-00088493 so u-hO-ZN7CvI-00338-00088494-00088775 if we actually open up the the soc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00339-00088776-00088918 manuals and this might be a good u-hO-ZN7CvI-00340-00088919-00089171 training ground in case later on you're u-hO-ZN7CvI-00341-00089172-00089350 interested so I've opened up the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00342-00089351-00089800 technical reference manual u-hO-ZN7CvI-00343-00089801-00089981 and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00344-00089982-00090118 uh u-hO-ZN7CvI-00345-00090119-00090305 what I showed you you know a couple of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00346-00090306-00090509 minutes back was actually the the memory u-hO-ZN7CvI-00347-00090510-00090718 map here it is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00348-00090719-00090971 boot ROM exists right here at this u-hO-ZN7CvI-00349-00090972-00091223 memory location you'll actually find a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00350-00091224-00091582 ton of other things also memory mapped u-hO-ZN7CvI-00351-00091583-00091750 so when you hear about you know memory u-hO-ZN7CvI-00352-00091751-00092044 mapped IO you know you can now kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00353-00092045-00092303 understand how all of that works u-hO-ZN7CvI-00354-00092304-00092411 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00355-00092412-00092729 so now let's actually go to the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00356-00092730-00092915 initialization part which is what u-hO-ZN7CvI-00357-00092916-00093143 happens when the system initializes u-hO-ZN7CvI-00358-00093144-00093400 so this seems to be documented in u-hO-ZN7CvI-00359-00093401-00094144 chapter 26. u-hO-ZN7CvI-00360-00094145-00094325 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00361-00094326-00094744 now this device the am335x the soc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00362-00094745-00095159 actually supports two different kinds of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00363-00095160-00095482 boots one is the high secure boot or the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00364-00095483-00095675 HS device and the other is the general u-hO-ZN7CvI-00365-00095676-00095926 purpose device so we are going to be u-hO-ZN7CvI-00366-00095927-00096221 using more of the the GP device and not u-hO-ZN7CvI-00367-00096222-00096412 the high secure device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00368-00096413-00096706 the high secure device if you notice is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00369-00096707-00096905 kind of doing the trusted boot stuff u-hO-ZN7CvI-00370-00096906-00097200 right so it requires a digitally signed u-hO-ZN7CvI-00371-00097201-00097468 uh you know piece of firmware and or u-hO-ZN7CvI-00372-00097469-00097667 else it's not going to boot it so we are u-hO-ZN7CvI-00373-00097668-00097787 going to be looking at the general u-hO-ZN7CvI-00374-00097788-00098153 purpose device and in a later series we u-hO-ZN7CvI-00375-00098154-00098291 might look at u-hO-ZN7CvI-00376-00098292-00098561 devices which have trusted Boot and you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00377-00098562-00098723 know different ways by which people have u-hO-ZN7CvI-00378-00098724-00098873 compromised and what are the attack u-hO-ZN7CvI-00379-00098874-00099185 vectors Etc but in this course I'm just u-hO-ZN7CvI-00380-00099186-00099376 going to you know focus on the general u-hO-ZN7CvI-00381-00099377-00099659 purpose device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00382-00099660-00099953 so the soc manual has a ton of details u-hO-ZN7CvI-00383-00099954-00100205 on like how all of this works and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00384-00100206-00100385 you know kind of spread over probably a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00385-00100386-00100612 couple of hundred Pages now what I have u-hO-ZN7CvI-00386-00100613-00100859 done is I've just taken the important u-hO-ZN7CvI-00387-00100860-00100979 parts u-hO-ZN7CvI-00388-00100980-00101212 and put it into the presentation so just u-hO-ZN7CvI-00389-00101213-00101405 so you know all of this is from the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00390-00101406-00101593 technical reference manual u-hO-ZN7CvI-00391-00101594-00101903 but your nice instructor Vivek u-hO-ZN7CvI-00392-00101904-00102185 ramachandran has gone through the Pains u-hO-ZN7CvI-00393-00102186-00102442 of reading not the whole trm I'm not u-hO-ZN7CvI-00394-00102443-00102539 crazy u-hO-ZN7CvI-00395-00102540-00102784 but you know the important relevant u-hO-ZN7CvI-00396-00102785-00103060 parts and you can have gotten all of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00397-00103061-00103234 that you know juicy stuff into the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00398-00103235-00103456 slides so the slides should be more than u-hO-ZN7CvI-00399-00103457-00103715 enough but if you are more inquisitive u-hO-ZN7CvI-00400-00103716-00103894 you can always go back and look at the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00401-00103895-00104140 technical reference manual I've also u-hO-ZN7CvI-00402-00104141-00104339 mentioned the page number for the next u-hO-ZN7CvI-00403-00104340-00104578 couple of slides from where I've picked u-hO-ZN7CvI-00404-00104579-00104884 up many of these flowcharts and diagrams u-hO-ZN7CvI-00405-00104885-00105149 cool so let's continue u-hO-ZN7CvI-00406-00105150-00105377 so the system starts up and then there u-hO-ZN7CvI-00407-00105378-00105652 is some basic initialization and of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00408-00105653-00105833 course all of this is now you know the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00409-00105833-00106043 ROM code which is executing right the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00410-00106044-00106325 soc ROM code is what is executing u-hO-ZN7CvI-00411-00106326-00106619 after that we go into the main routine u-hO-ZN7CvI-00412-00106620-00106931 where the stack is set up and then after u-hO-ZN7CvI-00413-00106932-00107152 that the ROM bootloader goes ahead and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00414-00107153-00107351 sets up the Watchdog timer u-hO-ZN7CvI-00415-00107352-00107573 so if you look at the documentation it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00416-00107574-00107771 actually states that the Watchdog timer u-hO-ZN7CvI-00417-00107772-00108040 is going to give uh you know the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00418-00108041-00108347 bootloader code around three minutes to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00419-00108348-00108593 find a boot device and to load the next u-hO-ZN7CvI-00420-00108594-00108839 stage if it doesn't do this within three u-hO-ZN7CvI-00421-00108840-00109049 minutes it's probably going to reset the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00422-00109050-00109390 board interesting so after the Watchdog u-hO-ZN7CvI-00423-00109391-00109745 timer has been set up the next job is is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00424-00109746-00109954 really kind of to go ahead and set up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00425-00109955-00110183 the clock so you know it's kind of going u-hO-ZN7CvI-00426-00110183-00110440 to look at the phased Loop phase Lop u-hO-ZN7CvI-00427-00110441-00110734 Loop and based on that it is going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00428-00110735-00111047 set the clock settings right so plls are u-hO-ZN7CvI-00429-00111048-00111221 very fundamental u-hO-ZN7CvI-00430-00111222-00111466 or phased locked Loops it's almost like u-hO-ZN7CvI-00431-00111467-00111702 a tongue twister u-hO-ZN7CvI-00432-00111703-00112001 and using that you basically set the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00433-00112002-00112360 system clock now once that is done the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00434-00112361-00112613 ROM bootloader is now going to try and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00435-00112614-00112949 see how it can boot the next stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00436-00112950-00113266 so of course to boot the next stage uh u-hO-ZN7CvI-00437-00113267-00113495 the most logical thing is where is the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00438-00113496-00113681 next stage right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00439-00113682-00113945 it definitely isn't on the soc because u-hO-ZN7CvI-00440-00113946-00114365 the soc only had 176 KB so this is going u-hO-ZN7CvI-00441-00114366-00114604 to be external to the SOC u-hO-ZN7CvI-00442-00114605-00114910 so how does the ROM boot loader go about u-hO-ZN7CvI-00443-00114911-00115163 figuring out where to find the next u-hO-ZN7CvI-00444-00115164-00115277 stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00445-00115278-00115565 now once again the order in which the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00446-00115566-00115786 ROM bootloader is going to search for a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00447-00115788-00116189 boot device is something which the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00448-00116190-00116416 hardware designers u-hO-ZN7CvI-00449-00116417-00116765 have kind of gone ahead and decided by u-hO-ZN7CvI-00450-00116766-00117077 using different pins at highs and lows u-hO-ZN7CvI-00451-00117078-00117328 and that tells the soc what is the order u-hO-ZN7CvI-00452-00117329-00117599 of boot to be followed right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00453-00117600-00117875 so we come here booting set the booting u-hO-ZN7CvI-00454-00117876-00118145 device list based on the boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00455-00118146-00118384 configuration settings sysboot pins u-hO-ZN7CvI-00456-00118385-00118577 horses boot pins u-hO-ZN7CvI-00457-00118578-00118865 and for each of those devices u-hO-ZN7CvI-00458-00118866-00119110 figure out if it is a peripheral boot or u-hO-ZN7CvI-00459-00119111-00119278 if it's a Memory boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00460-00119279-00119519 now in our case we are going to be doing u-hO-ZN7CvI-00461-00119520-00119813 a boot using the SD card so it's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00462-00119814-00120089 actually going to be Memory boarding u-hO-ZN7CvI-00463-00120090-00120443 right so what we will actually do from u-hO-ZN7CvI-00464-00120444-00120665 here is kind of go down the memory u-hO-ZN7CvI-00465-00120666-00120923 booting part and if it succeeds it kind u-hO-ZN7CvI-00466-00120924-00121115 of continues if not it's going to go u-hO-ZN7CvI-00467-00121116-00121325 back try the next device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00468-00121326-00121847 and then it'll kind of uh and finally I u-hO-ZN7CvI-00469-00121848-00122002 think if it fails it goes into a dead u-hO-ZN7CvI-00470-00122003-00122134 Loop u-hO-ZN7CvI-00471-00122135-00122236 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00472-00122238-00122578 so MMC SD booting u-hO-ZN7CvI-00473-00122579-00122795 so how is this going to work u-hO-ZN7CvI-00474-00122796-00122977 so u-hO-ZN7CvI-00475-00122978-00123377 assuming that the MMC SD you know kind u-hO-ZN7CvI-00476-00123378-00123731 of card is in the list u-hO-ZN7CvI-00477-00123732-00123947 the ROM bootloader is going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00478-00123948-00124216 initialize the driver and then after u-hO-ZN7CvI-00479-00124217-00124558 that decide whether the next stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00480-00124559-00124834 bootloader is on the SD card in either u-hO-ZN7CvI-00481-00124835-00125297 raw mode or is it there as a boot file u-hO-ZN7CvI-00482-00125298-00125573 now this gets interesting u-hO-ZN7CvI-00483-00125574-00125873 so raw mode is really where we just put u-hO-ZN7CvI-00484-00125874-00126119 the next stage bootloader and the file u-hO-ZN7CvI-00485-00126120-00126319 name of the next stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00486-00126320-00126628 basically is mlo u-hO-ZN7CvI-00487-00126629-00126797 so the next stage bootloader can u-hO-ZN7CvI-00488-00126798-00127013 actually be put into raw mode which it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00489-00127014-00127181 currently says you know has to be either u-hO-ZN7CvI-00490-00127182-00127481 at offset 0 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00491-00127482-00127799 um or from zero if the first 128 KB or u-hO-ZN7CvI-00492-00127800-00128166 then up to 256 or 384. u-hO-ZN7CvI-00493-00128167-00128531 alternately what it can actually do is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00494-00128532-00129016 read from a fat partition on the SD card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00495-00129017-00129154 so u-hO-ZN7CvI-00496-00129155-00129328 based on this u-hO-ZN7CvI-00497-00129329-00129569 we can choose one of these different u-hO-ZN7CvI-00498-00129570-00129857 options to locate the first stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00499-00129858-00130181 bootloader now what we will do is we u-hO-ZN7CvI-00500-00130182-00130373 will go ahead and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00501-00130374-00130702 use the fat option during this entire u-hO-ZN7CvI-00502-00130703-00130936 series but I will also show you how to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00503-00130938-00131201 do the raw mode boot where we will use u-hO-ZN7CvI-00504-00131202-00131513 DD to write the first stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00505-00131514-00131795 and the second stage bootloader onto u-hO-ZN7CvI-00506-00131796-00132143 these exact locations and then boot the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00507-00132144-00132485 device right but given it supports fat I u-hO-ZN7CvI-00508-00132486-00132664 would prefer it because it's very easy u-hO-ZN7CvI-00509-00132665-00132845 to move around the files and play with u-hO-ZN7CvI-00510-00132846-00132989 it as you're learning different things u-hO-ZN7CvI-00511-00132990-00133133 in this course u-hO-ZN7CvI-00512-00133134-00133295 so keep in mind u-hO-ZN7CvI-00513-00133296-00133625 what we will do is put the first stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00514-00133626-00133864 bootloader you know with a file name u-hO-ZN7CvI-00515-00133865-00134027 called mlo u-hO-ZN7CvI-00516-00134028-00134447 onto the fat partition of our SD card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00517-00134448-00134573 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00518-00134574-00134951 so let's actually do a quick recap of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00519-00134952-00135166 what we've learned so far and then add u-hO-ZN7CvI-00520-00135167-00135533 on to that so the soc ROM bootloader is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00521-00135534-00135935 within the soc of course very small 176 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00522-00135936-00136319 KB its job really is to boot the first u-hO-ZN7CvI-00523-00136320-00136625 stage bootloader which is the SPL or mlo u-hO-ZN7CvI-00524-00136626-00136907 SPL stands for secondary program loader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00525-00136908-00137183 mlo for memory loader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00526-00137184-00137399 now the first stage bootloader is going u-hO-ZN7CvI-00527-00137400-00137663 to load the second stage bootloader in u-hO-ZN7CvI-00528-00137664-00137873 the case of beaglebone black we are u-hO-ZN7CvI-00529-00137874-00138202 going to be using a very popular u-hO-ZN7CvI-00530-00138203-00138461 bootloader called uboot and its u-hO-ZN7CvI-00531-00138462-00138845 configuration file which is uenv.txt now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00532-00138846-00139199 u-boot is open source has a massive u-hO-ZN7CvI-00533-00139200-00139475 adoption in the embedded Market I would u-hO-ZN7CvI-00534-00139476-00139727 even Hazard a guess and say almost 90 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00535-00139728-00139954 percent of embedded devices which I've u-hO-ZN7CvI-00536-00139955-00140302 seen lately uh use uboot as the default u-hO-ZN7CvI-00537-00140303-00140525 bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00538-00140526-00140681 now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00539-00140682-00140927 u-boot or the second stage bootloader is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00540-00140928-00141125 then going to bring up the Linux kernel u-hO-ZN7CvI-00541-00141126-00141425 which can be a z image or a u image u-hO-ZN7CvI-00542-00141426-00141749 along with the device tree and then the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00543-00141750-00141940 Linux kernel in turn is going to bring u-hO-ZN7CvI-00544-00141941-00142109 up the road file system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00545-00142110-00142390 fantastic u-hO-ZN7CvI-00546-00142391-00142804 so now let's understand how this process u-hO-ZN7CvI-00547-00142805-00143033 is actually going to work I know this u-hO-ZN7CvI-00548-00143034-00143309 has been a long video the next part is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00549-00143310-00143464 is where we kind of summarize everything u-hO-ZN7CvI-00550-00143465-00143687 and then in the next video we do our u-hO-ZN7CvI-00551-00143688-00143921 first practical demo u-hO-ZN7CvI-00552-00143922-00144052 okay u-hO-ZN7CvI-00553-00144053-00144359 so how does this actually work so let's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00554-00144360-00144754 actually say that the am335x is the soc u-hO-ZN7CvI-00555-00144755-00145007 over here right we've kept it here and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00556-00145008-00145216 here is the ROM bootloader and here is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00557-00145217-00145469 the internal Ram which we had found was u-hO-ZN7CvI-00558-00145470-00145883 around 128 KB the ROM bootloader section u-hO-ZN7CvI-00559-00145884-00146261 was around I think 176 KB if I remember u-hO-ZN7CvI-00560-00146262-00146483 now externally you have the SD card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00561-00146484-00146711 which is connected or rather the kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00562-00146712-00146914 SD card you know kind of socket right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00563-00146915-00147137 now there is no card in there u-hO-ZN7CvI-00564-00147138-00147383 and then you also have RAM on the system u-hO-ZN7CvI-00565-00147384-00147509 right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00566-00147510-00147766 so now what we do is we insert our SD u-hO-ZN7CvI-00567-00147767-00147887 card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00568-00147888-00148169 and on that SD card we are going to have u-hO-ZN7CvI-00569-00148170-00148523 three partitions the first partition is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00570-00148524-00148735 actually going to be a fat 32 partition u-hO-ZN7CvI-00571-00148736-00149039 and that will contain the first stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00572-00149040-00149321 bootloader which is mlo and the second u-hO-ZN7CvI-00573-00149322-00149645 stage bootloader you boot and then the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00574-00149646-00149885 second stage bootloaders configuration u-hO-ZN7CvI-00575-00149886-00150263 file which is uenv.txt actually it's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00576-00150264-00150485 more of environment variables than u-hO-ZN7CvI-00577-00150486-00150647 actual config but u-hO-ZN7CvI-00578-00150648-00150875 uh we'll get to that let's just kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00579-00150876-00151031 keep it simple right now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00580-00151032-00151301 the second partition is an ext4 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00581-00151302-00151511 partition which is going to contain the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00582-00151512-00151925 Linux kernel and the device tree binary u-hO-ZN7CvI-00583-00151926-00152164 right so the device tree basically you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00584-00152165-00152375 know kind of is is nothing but an u-hO-ZN7CvI-00585-00152376-00152626 enumeration of all the non-discoverable u-hO-ZN7CvI-00586-00152627-00152873 devices and how to bring them up and how u-hO-ZN7CvI-00587-00152874-00153076 to power them on their power profiles u-hO-ZN7CvI-00588-00153077-00153323 Etc we'll talk about it later u-hO-ZN7CvI-00589-00153324-00153652 the third partition is what will contain u-hO-ZN7CvI-00590-00153653-00153916 our familiar root file system right that u-hO-ZN7CvI-00591-00153917-00154169 entire directory structure which all of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00592-00154170-00154378 us are so used to seeing u-hO-ZN7CvI-00593-00154379-00154709 now you can partition the SD card u-hO-ZN7CvI-00594-00154710-00155021 differently but for this video series u-hO-ZN7CvI-00595-00155022-00155176 this is how I'm going to kind of do it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00596-00155177-00155387 because a lot of times I'd like to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00597-00155388-00155681 quickly change my kernel change you know u-hO-ZN7CvI-00598-00155682-00155981 uan v.txt so I prefer having all of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00599-00155982-00156275 these in separate partitions u-hO-ZN7CvI-00600-00156276-00156497 okay so now how would this work let's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00601-00156498-00156664 summarize u-hO-ZN7CvI-00602-00156665-00157013 so step one we power up the soc the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00603-00157014-00157228 bootloader starts running the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00604-00157229-00157516 bootloader when we are actually going to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00605-00157517-00157733 be using you know this the second way to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00606-00157734-00157919 boot it which is it is going to search u-hO-ZN7CvI-00607-00157920-00158345 for a fat 32 partition on the SD card so u-hO-ZN7CvI-00608-00158346-00158554 the ROM bootloader decides that it's u-hO-ZN7CvI-00609-00158555-00158771 going to look into the SD card in its u-hO-ZN7CvI-00610-00158772-00159131 boot sequence and then inside that finds u-hO-ZN7CvI-00611-00159132-00159407 the FAT32 partition sees that there is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00612-00159408-00159790 an mlo a file named mlo inside it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00613-00159791-00160181 and then brings it into its internal Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00614-00160182-00160499 now if mlo does not exist then of course u-hO-ZN7CvI-00615-00160500-00160781 boot will fail from the SD card and then u-hO-ZN7CvI-00616-00160782-00161033 the ROM bootloader will move on to the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00617-00161034-00161345 next device in the list u-hO-ZN7CvI-00618-00161346-00161657 so step one to summarize it gets the mlo u-hO-ZN7CvI-00619-00161658-00161897 puts it into RAM and then passes control u-hO-ZN7CvI-00620-00161898-00162335 to it right now the mlo in turn will go u-hO-ZN7CvI-00621-00162336-00162664 ahead check for u-boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00622-00162665-00163037 and then copy you boot onto the ram now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00623-00163038-00163259 this differentiation is very very u-hO-ZN7CvI-00624-00163260-00163511 critical right if you notice the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00625-00163512-00163775 bootloader got mlo into its internal Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00626-00163776-00164104 while mlo got u-boot into the external u-hO-ZN7CvI-00627-00164105-00164321 RAM this is important u-hO-ZN7CvI-00628-00164322-00164543 and I'll get to a couple of implications u-hO-ZN7CvI-00629-00164544-00164843 in just a bit u-boot in turn is actually u-hO-ZN7CvI-00630-00164844-00165095 going to check if you know you env.txt u-hO-ZN7CvI-00631-00165096-00165437 is present and then it'll go ahead and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00632-00165438-00165802 copy that out to the ram as well u-hO-ZN7CvI-00633-00165803-00165952 now u-hO-ZN7CvI-00634-00165953-00166285 you boot intern is going to go ahead u-hO-ZN7CvI-00635-00166286-00166547 fetch the Linux kernel and the device u-hO-ZN7CvI-00636-00166548-00166840 tree binary and how would uboot actually u-hO-ZN7CvI-00637-00166841-00167069 know that there is an ext4 partition u-hO-ZN7CvI-00638-00167070-00167351 it's a second partition Etc well all of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00639-00167352-00167531 that information is actually there in u-hO-ZN7CvI-00640-00167532-00167728 uenv.txt u-hO-ZN7CvI-00641-00167729-00167975 so u-boot now fetches the Linux kernel u-hO-ZN7CvI-00642-00167976-00168239 and the device tree binary loads them up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00643-00168240-00168389 into RAM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00644-00168390-00168766 then also goes ahead passes the boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00645-00168767-00168959 arguments u-hO-ZN7CvI-00646-00168960-00169283 and then goes ahead and passes control u-hO-ZN7CvI-00647-00169284-00169643 to the kernel which in turn will Mount u-hO-ZN7CvI-00648-00169644-00169949 the root file system and then run the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00649-00169950-00170273 init process from the file system in Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00650-00170274-00170513 and the init process in turn will u-hO-ZN7CvI-00651-00170514-00170737 initiate other user space programs u-hO-ZN7CvI-00652-00170738-00171125 fantastic so if you understood this u-hO-ZN7CvI-00653-00171126-00171376 you pretty much Now understand in and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00654-00171377-00171545 out how the boot process for the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00655-00171546-00171785 beaglebone black and actually most u-hO-ZN7CvI-00656-00171786-00172169 embedded devices work right the key u-hO-ZN7CvI-00657-00172170-00172373 variation for other devices is actually u-hO-ZN7CvI-00658-00172374-00172564 just going to be the first step which is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00659-00172565-00172871 how the ROM boot loader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00660-00172872-00173159 after you know getting one or two more u-hO-ZN7CvI-00661-00173160-00173387 stages or whatever it does finally u-hO-ZN7CvI-00662-00173388-00173687 manages to put you boot into memory and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00663-00173688-00173914 passes control just that part is going u-hO-ZN7CvI-00664-00173915-00174166 to be very board specific once u-boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00665-00174167-00174413 comes up is in memory the rest of it is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00666-00174414-00174676 going to be always the same right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00667-00174677-00174790 so of course u-hO-ZN7CvI-00668-00174791-00175066 you are asking some questions which are u-hO-ZN7CvI-00669-00175067-00175337 very intuitive right just why the hell u-hO-ZN7CvI-00670-00175338-00175540 do we even need u-hO-ZN7CvI-00671-00175541-00175799 the first stage bootloader mlo u-hO-ZN7CvI-00672-00175800-00175925 right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00673-00175926-00176207 why can't the ROM bootloader just pretty u-hO-ZN7CvI-00674-00176208-00176476 much just fetch you boot and run it from u-hO-ZN7CvI-00675-00176477-00176621 internal Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00676-00176622-00176801 I mean why do we even need the first u-hO-ZN7CvI-00677-00176802-00177011 stage bootloader u-hO-ZN7CvI-00678-00177012-00177178 now it is very important to remember u-hO-ZN7CvI-00679-00177179-00177493 that the internal Ram was only 128 KB u-hO-ZN7CvI-00680-00177494-00177797 while if you look at u-boot size with u-hO-ZN7CvI-00681-00177798-00178007 all the functionality u-boot has built u-hO-ZN7CvI-00682-00178008-00178247 in it is never going to be able to fit u-hO-ZN7CvI-00683-00178248-00178481 within the internal Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00684-00178482-00178901 of the soc and RAM within an SOC is u-hO-ZN7CvI-00685-00178902-00179188 crazy expensive so the only way SOC u-hO-ZN7CvI-00686-00179189-00179375 vendors manage to keep their costs down u-hO-ZN7CvI-00687-00179376-00179590 is to make sure that you know the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00688-00179591-00179795 RAM and and some of these really u-hO-ZN7CvI-00689-00179796-00180125 expensive memory is actually kept at a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00690-00180126-00180383 minimum and this is the reason why you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00691-00180384-00180671 will always find that the whole first u-hO-ZN7CvI-00692-00180672-00180935 second and sometimes even end stages may u-hO-ZN7CvI-00693-00180936-00181078 be required u-hO-ZN7CvI-00694-00181079-00181204 right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00695-00181205-00181451 so this is something very very kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00696-00181452-00181751 important to keep in mind u-hO-ZN7CvI-00697-00181752-00182099 uh which is u-boot is so large that you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00698-00182100-00182357 know it cannot fit inside the internal u-hO-ZN7CvI-00699-00182358-00182578 Ram now of course your next logical u-hO-ZN7CvI-00700-00182579-00182771 question is well okay why doesn't the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00701-00182772-00183107 ROM bootloader uh then just load u-boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00702-00183108-00183304 directly into RAM fair enough it doesn't u-hO-ZN7CvI-00703-00183305-00183521 have to load it into internal Ram but it u-hO-ZN7CvI-00704-00183522-00183766 can load it directly into them right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00705-00183767-00183995 now this is a very interesting question u-hO-ZN7CvI-00706-00183996-00184271 and the the answer really is that keep u-hO-ZN7CvI-00707-00184272-00184654 in mind that the soc vendor at the time u-hO-ZN7CvI-00708-00184655-00184949 of when he actually made the soc knows u-hO-ZN7CvI-00709-00184950-00185152 very little about the external devices u-hO-ZN7CvI-00710-00185153-00185326 you're going to connect to it and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00711-00185327-00185663 typically you know dram controllers u-hO-ZN7CvI-00712-00185664-00185926 uh depend a lot on you know the product u-hO-ZN7CvI-00713-00185927-00186173 manufacturer how they built it and there u-hO-ZN7CvI-00714-00186174-00186347 are so many things which actually goes u-hO-ZN7CvI-00715-00186348-00186611 into making the controller work and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00716-00186612-00186773 making the ram function u-hO-ZN7CvI-00717-00186774-00187126 so unfortunately the ROM bootloader will u-hO-ZN7CvI-00718-00187127-00187438 have no idea how to work and configure u-hO-ZN7CvI-00719-00187439-00187649 this Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00720-00187650-00188026 and hence it cannot directly load u-boot u-hO-ZN7CvI-00721-00188027-00188140 onto the ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00722-00188141-00188302 the ml u-hO-ZN7CvI-00723-00188303-00188459 ml understand u-hO-ZN7CvI-00724-00188460-00188657 how this specific Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00725-00188658-00188933 controller works and it is going to set u-hO-ZN7CvI-00726-00188934-00189107 everything up so that the ram becomes u-hO-ZN7CvI-00727-00189108-00189251 functional u-hO-ZN7CvI-00728-00189252-00189545 and that is the reason why we require u-hO-ZN7CvI-00729-00189546-00189773 the mlo in between and the ROM u-hO-ZN7CvI-00730-00189774-00189995 bootloader cannot just take u-boot and u-hO-ZN7CvI-00731-00189996-00190199 put it in Ram u-hO-ZN7CvI-00732-00190200-00190438 right I hope I was very very clear with u-hO-ZN7CvI-00733-00190439-00190619 this explanation it's very interesting u-hO-ZN7CvI-00734-00190620-00190816 but once you know this you understand u-hO-ZN7CvI-00735-00190817-00190985 the purpose of the first stage u-hO-ZN7CvI-00736-00190986-00191225 bootloaders on many systems there could u-hO-ZN7CvI-00737-00191226-00191554 even be more stages keep in mind in u-hO-ZN7CvI-00738-00191555-00191783 reality all we are trying to do is go u-hO-ZN7CvI-00739-00191784-00192095 from the ROM bootloader to setting up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00740-00192096-00192376 the RAM and in between we may require as u-hO-ZN7CvI-00741-00192377-00192604 many stages as you know required u-hO-ZN7CvI-00742-00192605-00192935 depending on the soc's architecture once u-hO-ZN7CvI-00743-00192936-00193133 the ram is set up u-hO-ZN7CvI-00744-00193134-00193337 the dram controller is kind of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00745-00193338-00193552 functional and up after that we can put u-hO-ZN7CvI-00746-00193553-00193775 in u-boot and all the programs we know u-hO-ZN7CvI-00747-00193776-00194051 and love onto RAM and execute it right u-hO-ZN7CvI-00748-00194052-00194314 so this part is very critical to u-hO-ZN7CvI-00749-00194315-00194519 understand and Digest u-hO-ZN7CvI-00750-00194520-00194843 okay this was a long video guys and I u-hO-ZN7CvI-00751-00194844-00195071 hate doing videos which may go beyond 10 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00752-00195072-00195263 minutes because I know it's extremely u-hO-ZN7CvI-00753-00195264-00195616 difficult to stay focused and sharp but u-hO-ZN7CvI-00754-00195617-00195809 I really wanted to do this one video you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00755-00195810-00196037 know within a sitting so I promise not u-hO-ZN7CvI-00756-00196038-00196211 to kind of exceed more than 10 to 15 u-hO-ZN7CvI-00757-00196212-00196445 minutes in a video but hopefully you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00758-00196446-00196588 enjoyed this session u-hO-ZN7CvI-00759-00196589-00196847 it actually took me I'm not kidding you u-hO-ZN7CvI-00760-00196848-00197152 two days to build out the slides for u-hO-ZN7CvI-00761-00197153-00197404 just this video I had to go through the u-hO-ZN7CvI-00762-00197405-00197609 trm documents and a ton of other stuff u-hO-ZN7CvI-00763-00197610-00197861 so I really hope you enjoyed it thank u-hO-ZN7CvI-00764-00197862-00198143 you very much uh if you are not a u-hO-ZN7CvI-00765-00198144-00198323 student of fantastic Academy please do u-hO-ZN7CvI-00766-00198324-00198563 consider joining us we have a ton of u-hO-ZN7CvI-00767-00198564-00198761 courses in there and if you are I hope u-hO-ZN7CvI-00768-00198762-00198928 you're enjoying and please tell your u-hO-ZN7CvI-00769-00198929-00199133 friends and colleagues about us thank u-hO-ZN7CvI-00770-00199134-00199429 you have a great day ahead u-l4feZtUEo-00000-00000017-00000383 the Dalek archipelago Arabic up will DHL u-l4feZtUEo-00001-00000384-00000623 que Gary Italian our chapel ago de u-l4feZtUEo-00002-00000624-00000862 LaSalle Dalek is an island group located u-l4feZtUEo-00003-00000863-00001172 in the Red Sea near Misawa Eritrea it u-l4feZtUEo-00004-00001173-00001514 consists of two large and 124 small u-l4feZtUEo-00005-00001515-00001789 islands the pearl fisheries of the u-l4feZtUEo-00006-00001791-00002023 archipelago have been famous since Roman u-l4feZtUEo-00007-00002025-00002242 times and still produce a substantial u-l4feZtUEo-00008-00002243-00002870 number of pearls u-l4feZtUEo-00009-00002871-00003427 topic geography u-l4feZtUEo-00010-00003428-00003667 only four of the islands are permanently u-l4feZtUEo-00011-00003668-00003901 inhabited of which Dalek Kabir is the u-l4feZtUEo-00012-00003902-00004222 largest and most populated other islands u-l4feZtUEo-00013-00004223-00004435 of the archipelago a dual idea to u-l4feZtUEo-00014-00004436-00004729 say-dough whole Durrell our her at Tamil u-l4feZtUEo-00015-00004730-00005020 Asura to may elect new Kura Nora Nora u-l4feZtUEo-00016-00005021-00005236 and Shama although only Nora and doe u-l4feZtUEo-00017-00005237-00005440 Hill are permanently inhabited besides u-l4feZtUEo-00018-00005441-00005722 the main island the islands are home to u-l4feZtUEo-00019-00005723-00005953 a diverse marine life and sea birds and u-l4feZtUEo-00020-00005954-00006225 attract an increasing number of tourists u-l4feZtUEo-00021-00006226-00006514 residents of the archipelago speak Dalek u-l4feZtUEo-00022-00006515-00006754 an afro-asiatic language of the Semitic u-l4feZtUEo-00023-00006755-00006955 branch and maintain a traditional way of u-l4feZtUEo-00024-00006956-00007168 life including fishing and herding goats u-l4feZtUEo-00025-00007169-00007488 and camels the islands can be reached by u-l4feZtUEo-00026-00007489-00007693 boat from Misawa and a popular with u-l4feZtUEo-00027-00007694-00008396 scuba divers and snorkelers u-l4feZtUEo-00028-00008397-00008959 topic history u-l4feZtUEo-00029-00008960-00009257 GWB hunting food has identified with the u-l4feZtUEo-00030-00009258-00009464 dalek archipelago a group of islands u-l4feZtUEo-00031-00009465-00009794 near a Dulles called Ala lay in the para u-l4feZtUEo-00032-00009795-00009983 plus of the erythraean sea which were a u-l4feZtUEo-00033-00009984-00010262 source of tortoiseshell according to u-l4feZtUEo-00034-00010263-00010352 Edward Allendorf u-l4feZtUEo-00035-00010353-00010529 the dalek Islanders were amongst the u-l4feZtUEo-00036-00010530-00010724 first in the Horn of Africa to embrace u-l4feZtUEo-00037-00010725-00010982 Islam and a number of tombstones in Kufa u-l4feZtUEo-00038-00010983-00011150 script attest to this early connection u-l4feZtUEo-00039-00011151-00011390 in the seventh century an independent u-l4feZtUEo-00040-00011391-00011635 Muslim state emerged in the archipelago u-l4feZtUEo-00041-00011636-00011915 however it was subsequently conquered by u-l4feZtUEo-00042-00011916-00012110 Yemen then intermittently by the kingdom u-l4feZtUEo-00043-00012111-00012503 of Madeira Bari land of the sea in 1517 u-l4feZtUEo-00044-00012504-00012710 the Ottoman Turks conquered the islands u-l4feZtUEo-00045-00012711-00012847 and placed them under the rule of the u-l4feZtUEo-00046-00012848-00013055 Pasha at suicune as part of the province u-l4feZtUEo-00047-00013056-00013244 of her besch the Italian colony of u-l4feZtUEo-00048-00013244-00013516 Eritrea formed in 1890 included the u-l4feZtUEo-00049-00013518-00013847 archipelago however during this time the u-l4feZtUEo-00050-00013847-00014018 islands were home to little except the u-l4feZtUEo-00051-00014019-00014194 nakri prison camp operated by the u-l4feZtUEo-00052-00014195-00014468 Italian colonial forces after Ethiopia u-l4feZtUEo-00053-00014469-00014657 allied itself with the Soviet Union u-l4feZtUEo-00054-00014658-00014840 during the Cold War following the rise u-l4feZtUEo-00055-00014841-00015062 of the Derg the dalek archipelago was u-l4feZtUEo-00056-00015063-00015369 the location of a Soviet Navy base in u-l4feZtUEo-00057-00015370-00015686 1990 Ethiopia lost control of the dalek u-l4feZtUEo-00058-00015687-00015878 archipelago and the northern aerotrain u-l4feZtUEo-00059-00015879-00016063 coast to the Eritrean independence u-l4feZtUEo-00060-00016065-00016427 movement EP LF and by 1991 Ethiopia had u-l4feZtUEo-00061-00016428-00016724 lost control of all of Eritrea following u-l4feZtUEo-00062-00016725-00016886 the international recognition of u-l4feZtUEo-00063-00016887-00017203 Eritrean independence in 1993 the dalek u-l4feZtUEo-00064-00017204-00017954 archipelago became a part of Eritrea u-l4feZtUEo-00065-00017955-00018494 topic ecology u-l4feZtUEo-00066-00018495-00018696 some of the islands are fringed with u-l4feZtUEo-00067-00018697-00018891 mangroves and others with salt brush u-l4feZtUEo-00068-00018892-00019181 scrub the coral reefs and Shoals that u-l4feZtUEo-00069-00019182-00019358 surround the islands are rich in marine u-l4feZtUEo-00070-00019359-00019628 life and many seabirds visit the area u-l4feZtUEo-00071-00019629-00019961 dolphins dugongs sharks and turtles can u-l4feZtUEo-00072-00019962-00020147 be seen as well as a great variety of u-l4feZtUEo-00073-00020148-00020767 invertebrates u-l4feZtUEo-00074-00020768-00021324 topic see also u-l4feZtUEo-00075-00021325-00021693 dalek marine national park de Harlech u-l4feZtUEo-00076-00021694-00021957 languages u_Jqdh9JrDU-00000-00000000-00000182 hello everybody welcome to bro force u_Jqdh9JrDU-00001-00000183-00000318 we're gonna play uh u_Jqdh9JrDU-00002-00000319-00000503 part three i think i presume this is u_Jqdh9JrDU-00003-00000504-00000703 part three and we're gonna start u_Jqdh9JrDU-00004-00000704-00000943 from the beginning of the arena and we u_Jqdh9JrDU-00005-00000944-00001023 will tell you u_Jqdh9JrDU-00006-00001024-00001215 that if i get the crown then i'll make a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00007-00001216-00001391 video of me playing with chubby bunny u_Jqdh9JrDU-00008-00001392-00001470 making a tubby u_Jqdh9JrDU-00009-00001471-00001655 bunny video see me suffocate and stuff u_Jqdh9JrDU-00010-00001655-00001798 you guys gonna watch this straight after u_Jqdh9JrDU-00011-00001800-00001887 i upload it u_Jqdh9JrDU-00012-00001888-00002039 and it's gonna probably be almost the u_Jqdh9JrDU-00013-00002039-00002279 end of july today is the u_Jqdh9JrDU-00014-00002280-00002550 the 29th of july so it's really soon u_Jqdh9JrDU-00015-00002551-00002623 until the u_Jqdh9JrDU-00016-00002624-00002847 uh august and then i'm making a video u_Jqdh9JrDU-00017-00002848-00003071 before august and between august and u_Jqdh9JrDU-00018-00003072-00003158 july u_Jqdh9JrDU-00019-00003159-00003311 that's just very funny so which i'm u_Jqdh9JrDU-00020-00003311-00003527 gonna do that is a series each month end u_Jqdh9JrDU-00021-00003528-00003590 of the month u_Jqdh9JrDU-00022-00003592-00003783 there'll be like a series like that but u_Jqdh9JrDU-00023-00003784-00003911 i can't say the words because it's a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00024-00003911-00004006 spoiler u_Jqdh9JrDU-00025-00004007-00004270 and if you guys want to see my discord u_Jqdh9JrDU-00026-00004271-00004351 channel u_Jqdh9JrDU-00027-00004352-00004519 it's link in the link down in the u_Jqdh9JrDU-00028-00004520-00004702 description below and there's also a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00029-00004703-00004847 community reddit page u_Jqdh9JrDU-00030-00004848-00005054 which you can communicate and talk about u_Jqdh9JrDU-00031-00005055-00005175 cool things u_Jqdh9JrDU-00032-00005176-00005391 but the rules do apply so if you do u_Jqdh9JrDU-00033-00005392-00005599 something wrong you will get banned or u_Jqdh9JrDU-00034-00005600-00005983 not to do anything on it so u_Jqdh9JrDU-00035-00005984-00006439 be careful ah it's csgocases.com u_Jqdh9JrDU-00036-00006440-00006663 is that is that uh a whip i'm not gonna u_Jqdh9JrDU-00037-00006664-00006783 go to the website that guy just wants u_Jqdh9JrDU-00038-00006784-00006855 attention u_Jqdh9JrDU-00039-00006856-00007231 i saw a new guy come in saw that cheater u_Jqdh9JrDU-00040-00007231-00007463 okay so i'm going to the back i'm apple u_Jqdh9JrDU-00041-00007464-00007534 man u_Jqdh9JrDU-00042-00007536-00007783 ready to go i can't wait to get my hat u_Jqdh9JrDU-00043-00007784-00007878 because at the end of the game i'm u_Jqdh9JrDU-00044-00007879-00008055 pretty sure if i get enough xp u_Jqdh9JrDU-00045-00008056-00008342 i'll get a cool hat so let's do that u_Jqdh9JrDU-00046-00008343-00008423 there's a hole u_Jqdh9JrDU-00047-00008424-00009142 there's no hole u_Jqdh9JrDU-00048-00009143-00009395 oh there's really a winner already u_Jqdh9JrDU-00049-00009396-00009559 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00050-00009560-00010238 there's really one qualified no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00051-00010239-00010591 accuracy no no no no no no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00052-00010592-00011310 and a jump perfecto how do i say perfect u_Jqdh9JrDU-00053-00011311-00011735 oh yeah okay when you go this side we u_Jqdh9JrDU-00054-00011736-00011887 got the right u_Jqdh9JrDU-00055-00011888-00012246 right i think nope let's go to the left u_Jqdh9JrDU-00056-00012247-00012438 i haven't tried left before i don't u_Jqdh9JrDU-00057-00012439-00012614 think i have tried to lift ah no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00058-00012615-00013175 but press spacebar u_Jqdh9JrDU-00059-00013176-00013303 give me this they give me that that u_Jqdh9JrDU-00060-00013304-00013486 groove needs no one next to me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00061-00013487-00013807 and yes hello apple man u_Jqdh9JrDU-00062-00013808-00013991 i'm the only apple man allowed here so u_Jqdh9JrDU-00063-00013991-00014135 you know like if this game gets u_Jqdh9JrDU-00064-00014136-00014622 ah don't tell me i'm gonna lose this one u_Jqdh9JrDU-00065-00014623-00014855 i already have all the power in the u_Jqdh9JrDU-00066-00014856-00015207 world to be the first player u_Jqdh9JrDU-00067-00015208-00015535 bad timing bad timing i don't think u_Jqdh9JrDU-00068-00015536-00015655 those balls like me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00069-00015656-00015983 i'm still life okay i was alive u_Jqdh9JrDU-00070-00015984-00016286 but i am going again i guess u_Jqdh9JrDU-00071-00016287-00016567 i can't wait to go to the the blender u_Jqdh9JrDU-00072-00016568-00016727 but not in the blender of course u_Jqdh9JrDU-00073-00016728-00017094 okay i can i can go full full yes u_Jqdh9JrDU-00074-00017095-00017485 grab grab and yeah u_Jqdh9JrDU-00075-00017486-00017639 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00076-00017640-00018047 no no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00077-00018048-00018375 no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00078-00018376-00018783 sorry for your eyes look at me no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00079-00018784-00019119 i i was like i didn't mean it really u_Jqdh9JrDU-00080-00019120-00019286 but it's okay i'm pretty sure i'm u_Jqdh9JrDU-00081-00019287-00019503 delicious broccoli man will taste me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00082-00019504-00019758 okay i'm gonna try again but we're gonna u_Jqdh9JrDU-00083-00019759-00019919 do it professionally this is part three u_Jqdh9JrDU-00084-00019920-00020094 so if you guys love this video u_Jqdh9JrDU-00085-00020095-00020214 just let me know down in the comments u_Jqdh9JrDU-00086-00020215-00020430 below to make me make a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00087-00020431-00020894 series of this no don't lag on me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00088-00020895-00021103 pretty sure someone's using my wi-fi u_Jqdh9JrDU-00089-00021104-00021294 never get through obstacles and race to u_Jqdh9JrDU-00090-00021295-00021494 the finish line that's me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00091-00021495-00021678 and please don't lag in i haven't done u_Jqdh9JrDU-00092-00021679-00021830 this map no i have u_Jqdh9JrDU-00093-00021831-00022167 i have done this one yeah u_Jqdh9JrDU-00094-00022168-00022478 no no no no yeah u_Jqdh9JrDU-00095-00022479-00022807 oh i made it i was like a pogo man i was u_Jqdh9JrDU-00096-00022808-00023039 a parkour genius there but apparently u_Jqdh9JrDU-00097-00023040-00023428 broken man me no no no no no no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00098-00023429-00023663 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00099-00023664-00024007 okay i could do this instantly u_Jqdh9JrDU-00100-00024008-00024399 and jump no jump the wrong time nope u_Jqdh9JrDU-00101-00024400-00024607 i'll be the first one the king of this u_Jqdh9JrDU-00102-00024608-00024727 game u_Jqdh9JrDU-00103-00024728-00024863 all these ready people right down there u_Jqdh9JrDU-00104-00024864-00025047 i could do this u_Jqdh9JrDU-00105-00025048-00025199 who knows no no i'm gonna be a second u_Jqdh9JrDU-00106-00025200-00025478 place watch u_Jqdh9JrDU-00107-00025479-00025831 second place u_Jqdh9JrDU-00108-00025832-00026311 wait what happened u_Jqdh9JrDU-00109-00026312-00026679 no no no no no no no no no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00110-00026680-00027014 see genius but apparently they've u_Jqdh9JrDU-00111-00027016-00027390 outsmarted me jump u_Jqdh9JrDU-00112-00027391-00027646 oh look at those those crossbows i'm u_Jqdh9JrDU-00113-00027647-00027814 pretty sure i'm not gonna touch them u_Jqdh9JrDU-00114-00027816-00027967 i never got caught by them anyway but u_Jqdh9JrDU-00115-00027968-00028151 this is the place i get commonly u_Jqdh9JrDU-00116-00028152-00028518 caught and die broken man don't please u_Jqdh9JrDU-00117-00028519-00029070 every time like nothing happened no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00118-00029072-00029335 i lost my body i lost my other half of u_Jqdh9JrDU-00119-00029336-00029483 my body u_Jqdh9JrDU-00120-00029483-00029799 okay u_Jqdh9JrDU-00121-00029800-00030207 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00122-00030208-00030527 i looked away for a second no no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00123-00030527-00031102 no no hey look at lobster hey lobster u_Jqdh9JrDU-00124-00031103-00031535 uh yeah wrong no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00125-00031536-00031662 i'm gonna at least be in this one this u_Jqdh9JrDU-00126-00031663-00031839 game u_Jqdh9JrDU-00127-00031839-00032183 go away go away go don't touch me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00128-00032183-00032558 ah whoa okay look at chicken man right u_Jqdh9JrDU-00129-00032560-00032646 there u_Jqdh9JrDU-00130-00032647-00032807 i'll make sure that i'm the eighth u_Jqdh9JrDU-00131-00032808-00032983 player at least u_Jqdh9JrDU-00132-00032984-00033239 concentrate josh concentrate concentrate u_Jqdh9JrDU-00133-00033240-00033487 yes u_Jqdh9JrDU-00134-00033488-00033743 wait for it wait for it look at my u_Jqdh9JrDU-00135-00033744-00033846 perfection u_Jqdh9JrDU-00136-00033847-00034111 and yeah okay now i'm going to take my u_Jqdh9JrDU-00137-00034112-00034262 time here u_Jqdh9JrDU-00138-00034263-00034662 and go here oh this is going to be tough u_Jqdh9JrDU-00139-00034663-00034967 no please please no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00140-00034968-00035351 no u_Jqdh9JrDU-00141-00035352-00035646 i was so close just close you can't see u_Jqdh9JrDU-00142-00035647-00035927 it but this close u_Jqdh9JrDU-00143-00035928-00036483 so let's try that again like mine u_Jqdh9JrDU-00144-00036484-00036615 singing u_Jqdh9JrDU-00145-00036616-00036887 oh look at that this is the one i u_Jqdh9JrDU-00146-00036888-00036999 haven't done before u_Jqdh9JrDU-00147-00037000-00037127 i'm pretty sure i haven't done this one u_Jqdh9JrDU-00148-00037128-00037367 yet but it's my first u_Jqdh9JrDU-00149-00037368-00037727 so let's see what's it got to give us u_Jqdh9JrDU-00150-00037728-00038023 i'm going to the right side left side u_Jqdh9JrDU-00151-00038024-00038127 see my brain u_Jqdh9JrDU-00152-00038128-00038535 apple is going off no whoa oh u_Jqdh9JrDU-00153-00038536-00039143 wait oh yes yes yes yes yes u_Jqdh9JrDU-00154-00039144-00039302 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00155-00039303-00039623 wait wait wait ah that pushed me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00156-00039624-00039935 watermelon pushed me i'll get you what a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00157-00039936-00040023 man u_Jqdh9JrDU-00158-00040024-00040190 please don't press the button pokemon u_Jqdh9JrDU-00159-00040191-00040518 please don't press the button u_Jqdh9JrDU-00160-00040519-00040916 okay so i'm gonna walk u_Jqdh9JrDU-00161-00040917-00041039 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00162-00041040-00041479 okay we're doing good doing good u_Jqdh9JrDU-00163-00041480-00041743 yo we're doing really good oh no wait u_Jqdh9JrDU-00164-00041744-00041871 please don't tease u_Jqdh9JrDU-00165-00041872-00042158 whoa okay so you can't press it until u_Jqdh9JrDU-00166-00042159-00042239 delay u_Jqdh9JrDU-00167-00042240-00042711 there's bombs i'm taking it i'm going u_Jqdh9JrDU-00168-00042712-00042774 for it u_Jqdh9JrDU-00169-00042775-00043095 and i am the fourth sixth flight a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00170-00043096-00043215 seventh player u_Jqdh9JrDU-00171-00043216-00043639 in the game now compress the button but u_Jqdh9JrDU-00172-00043640-00043918 look at you this guy right here is a u_Jqdh9JrDU-00173-00043919-00044062 professional u_Jqdh9JrDU-00174-00044063-00044390 look at him cutie face this is actually u_Jqdh9JrDU-00175-00044391-00044479 cool thumbnail u_Jqdh9JrDU-00176-00044480-00044662 guys i'll see how hard like how easy u_Jqdh9JrDU-00177-00044663-00044774 this will get to get this kind of u_Jqdh9JrDU-00178-00044775-00044883 thumbnail u_Jqdh9JrDU-00179-00044884-00045239 junkish ow i want to get that u_Jqdh9JrDU-00180-00045240-00045543 one hey can you hit me again hit me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00181-00045544-00045701 again u_Jqdh9JrDU-00182-00045702-00046023 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00183-00046024-00046471 i'm on a hidden spree u_Jqdh9JrDU-00184-00046472-00046783 dive dive u_Jqdh9JrDU-00185-00046784-00046990 first round done will i make it to the u_Jqdh9JrDU-00186-00046991-00047262 second or the third or the last u_Jqdh9JrDU-00187-00047263-00047590 maybe maybe be there the judge u_Jqdh9JrDU-00188-00047591-00047935 of whoever's lashed yeah whoa u_Jqdh9JrDU-00189-00047936-00048374 big bomb can i jump on that u_Jqdh9JrDU-00190-00048375-00048558 nope i go straight right through it if u_Jqdh9JrDU-00191-00048559-00048686 you're looking man you have to run away u_Jqdh9JrDU-00192-00048687-00048951 from everyone u_Jqdh9JrDU-00193-00048952-00049135 oh you see that he's running everywhere u_Jqdh9JrDU-00194-00049136-00049311 and he doesn't know what he's doing it's u_Jqdh9JrDU-00195-00049312-00049407 like u_Jqdh9JrDU-00196-00049408-00049758 oh no look at the delicious wow u_Jqdh9JrDU-00197-00049759-00050095 many weak players in the bottle u_Jqdh9JrDU-00198-00050096-00050399 a bucket a bowl spinning punch u_Jqdh9JrDU-00199-00050400-00050543 oh i've done this one that's the one in u_Jqdh9JrDU-00200-00050544-00050751 the last episode i was professional at u_Jqdh9JrDU-00201-00050752-00050839 this one u_Jqdh9JrDU-00202-00050840-00051238 like everything was going my way okay u_Jqdh9JrDU-00203-00051239-00051575 going my strat is to wait u_Jqdh9JrDU-00204-00051576-00052070 wait oh look at that what on earth u_Jqdh9JrDU-00205-00052071-00052382 that's new okay so i'm going to stay u_Jqdh9JrDU-00206-00052383-00052575 back and go u_Jqdh9JrDU-00207-00052576-00052887 wait wait wait wait u_Jqdh9JrDU-00208-00052888-00053778 yeah broccoli man i'm good u_Jqdh9JrDU-00209-00053779-00054735 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00210-00054736-00054935 i can do this it's just it just takes u_Jqdh9JrDU-00211-00054936-00055079 time you need to have to u_Jqdh9JrDU-00212-00055079-00055415 concentrate really hard on the target u_Jqdh9JrDU-00213-00055416-00055559 you need to get i think you're standing u_Jqdh9JrDU-00214-00055560-00055766 here no no no no this u_Jqdh9JrDU-00215-00055767-00056047 no no no no i jumped too early which is u_Jqdh9JrDU-00216-00056048-00056135 fine it's fine u_Jqdh9JrDU-00217-00056136-00056407 i'm still gonna make it there's a lot of u_Jqdh9JrDU-00218-00056408-00056582 time left u_Jqdh9JrDU-00219-00056583-00057023 ow my face my beautiful face u_Jqdh9JrDU-00220-00057024-00057415 ah it was fresh and it was tasty though u_Jqdh9JrDU-00221-00057416-00057599 cutting it was probably satisfying for u_Jqdh9JrDU-00222-00057600-00057735 the little guy u_Jqdh9JrDU-00223-00057736-00058063 yes now i'm gonna go here whoa u_Jqdh9JrDU-00224-00058064-00058254 thank you for the level please don't hit u_Jqdh9JrDU-00225-00058255-00058350 me u_Jqdh9JrDU-00226-00058351-00058615 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00227-00058616-00058815 you purposely done that broccoli man i u_Jqdh9JrDU-00228-00058816-00059030 don't like you anymore whatever your u_Jqdh9JrDU-00229-00059032-00059103 name is u_Jqdh9JrDU-00230-00059104-00059247 if there isn't even a broccoli man oh u_Jqdh9JrDU-00231-00059248-00059463 there is a broken man oh my goodness u_Jqdh9JrDU-00232-00059464-00059775 hey broccoli man ow u_Jqdh9JrDU-00233-00059776-00060071 okay okay yeah it's still okay i still u_Jqdh9JrDU-00234-00060072-00060175 have a chance u_Jqdh9JrDU-00235-00060176-00060326 i still have a teensy bitsy little u_Jqdh9JrDU-00236-00060327-00060479 chance but watch u_Jqdh9JrDU-00237-00060479-00060659 and learn u_Jqdh9JrDU-00238-00060660-00060791 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00239-00060791-00061159 yes and jump oh no i only have someone u_Jqdh9JrDU-00240-00061160-00061311 in time u_Jqdh9JrDU-00241-00061312-00062087 and yeah if you hit me again u_Jqdh9JrDU-00242-00062088-00062279 i guess that is it for this video u_Jqdh9JrDU-00243-00062279-00062471 episode uh thank you guys so much for u_Jqdh9JrDU-00244-00062472-00062679 watching this was bro false u_Jqdh9JrDU-00245-00062679-00062863 it's like full guys if you guys don't u_Jqdh9JrDU-00246-00062864-00062991 know what it is u_Jqdh9JrDU-00247-00062991-00063191 and i'm sadly i won't be able to see u_Jqdh9JrDU-00248-00063191-00063342 these kind of new obstacles because i u_Jqdh9JrDU-00249-00063344-00063430 don't wanna u_Jqdh9JrDU-00250-00063432-00063647 i don't wanna i don't wanna make myself u_Jqdh9JrDU-00251-00063648-00063838 feel bad like oh no so thank you guys so u_Jqdh9JrDU-00252-00063839-00064482 much for watching i said already so u_Jqdh9JrDU-00253-00064483-00064674 bye-bye u_Jqdh9JrDU-00254-00064675-00064787 [Music] u_Jqdh9JrDU-00255-00064788-00065088 down uIF-iePVSRu-00000-00000000-00000935 I mean in democracy it's you know you uIF-iePVSRu-00001-00000936-00001225 should have many many opportunities or uIF-iePVSRu-00002-00001226-00001549 many choices rather than it's not the uIF-iePVSRu-00003-00001550-00001925 two-party system needs needs to be uIF-iePVSRu-00004-00001926-00002165 addressed and that's can be addressed by uIF-iePVSRu-00005-00002166-00002507 the voter turnout you know and then for uIF-iePVSRu-00006-00002508-00002846 them to get engaged and really really uIF-iePVSRu-00007-00002847-00003025 study the issues really study the uIF-iePVSRu-00008-00003026-00003293 candidates you know who's really oh to uIF-iePVSRu-00009-00003294-00003590 represent their interest yeah I think if uIF-iePVSRu-00010-00003590-00004090 they get beyond the that belief that you uIF-iePVSRu-00011-00004092-00004343 know minority government is gonna I uIF-iePVSRu-00012-00004344-00004550 guess it's in the mindset of people uIF-iePVSRu-00013-00004551-00004835 because that's that's the lies that have uIF-iePVSRu-00014-00004836-00005188 been told maybe over generations that a uIF-iePVSRu-00015-00005189-00005579 minority government leave them nowhere uIF-iePVSRu-00016-00005580-00005777 that's very unfortunate that they think uIF-iePVSRu-00017-00005778-00006013 like that I think if they realize that uIF-iePVSRu-00018-00006014-00006275 it's really about having a uIF-iePVSRu-00019-00006276-00006517 representative who's going to speak up I uIF-iePVSRu-00020-00006518-00006719 mean as a representative I'm still gonna uIF-iePVSRu-00021-00006720-00006910 have the opportunity to speak it up I'm uIF-iePVSRu-00022-00006911-00007135 still gonna have the opportunity to uIF-iePVSRu-00023-00007136-00007567 approach other members to draft bills or uIF-iePVSRu-00024-00007568-00008069 even be the clerk's to drop bills and to uIF-iePVSRu-00025-00008070-00008342 have the opportunity to speak with other uIF-iePVSRu-00026-00008343-00008519 members as far as getting those bills to uIF-iePVSRu-00027-00008520-00008764 the floor and voted on and it's uIF-iePVSRu-00028-00008765-00009089 unfortunate that the partisan approach uIF-iePVSRu-00029-00009090-00009489 to it and the party politics hinder uIF-iePVSRu-00030-00009490-00009863 growth in my view I think it's a uIF-iePVSRu-00031-00009864-00010235 beautiful beautiful province and I think uIF-iePVSRu-00032-00010236-00010406 we're at a point in history where we uIF-iePVSRu-00033-00010407-00010735 have great opportunity it's a book like uIF-iePVSRu-00034-00010736-00011149 I said before it's a boat about the will uIF-iePVSRu-00035-00011150-00011431 I mean we have the means it's I think we uIF-iePVSRu-00036-00011432-00011614 lack the will and I'm not sure why is uIF-iePVSRu-00037-00011615-00011801 that and I think it's about having new uIF-iePVSRu-00038-00011802-00012031 vision and going thinking outside the uIF-iePVSRu-00039-00012032-00012364 box and going beyond what we've been uIF-iePVSRu-00040-00012365-00012677 doing and actually going back as well uIF-iePVSRu-00041-00012678-00012997 and doing some research on some of the uIF-iePVSRu-00042-00012998-00013195 the studies that have been done as far uIF-iePVSRu-00043-00013196-00013480 as you know when it comes to economic uIF-iePVSRu-00044-00013481-00013834 development or education reform health uIF-iePVSRu-00045-00013835-00014209 care reform and poverty reform or you uIF-iePVSRu-00046-00014210-00014458 know how do we how do we move beyond the uIF-iePVSRu-00047-00014459-00014630 state that we're in and I think if we uIF-iePVSRu-00048-00014631-00014884 can go back and look at some of the uIF-iePVSRu-00049-00014885-00015074 studies that already been done and I uIF-iePVSRu-00050-00015075-00015313 bring the professionals to the table uIF-iePVSRu-00051-00015315-00015538 and have the discussion you know now uIF-iePVSRu-00052-00015540-00015688 it's the time this is the great uIF-iePVSRu-00053-00015690-00016134 opportunity it's 2018 let's do this uIF-iePVSRu-00054-00016135-00016808 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00000-00000687-00001487 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00001-00001488-00001563 [Applause] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00002-00001564-00002883 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00003-00002884-00003281 i'm uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00004-00003282-00005683 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00005-00005684-00005798 huh uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00006-00005799-00007083 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00007-00007084-00007505 my uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00008-00007506-00008483 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00009-00008484-00008855 uh uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00010-00008856-00010287 my god uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00011-00010288-00011283 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00012-00011284-00011510 bye uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00013-00011511-00014083 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00014-00014084-00014253 bye uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00015-00014254-00015483 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00016-00015484-00015627 uh uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00017-00015628-00016883 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00018-00016884-00016992 um uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00019-00016993-00017004 [Applause] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00020-00017005-00017673 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00021-00017674-00017793 [Applause] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00022-00017794-00018283 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00023-00018284-00019043 yes uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00024-00019044-00019165 [Applause] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00025-00019166-00019683 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00026-00019684-00019850 me uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00027-00019851-00021083 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00028-00021084-00021613 up uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00029-00021614-00023883 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00030-00023884-00024001 bye uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00031-00024002-00026683 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00032-00026683-00026935 um uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00033-00026936-00029483 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00034-00029483-00029636 bye uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00035-00029637-00030201 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00036-00030202-00030202 [Applause] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00037-00030204-00032283 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00038-00032283-00033453 um uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00039-00033454-00033702 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00040-00033703-00034151 uh uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00041-00034152-00035702 [Music] uJQqf7_Ga-Y-00042-00035703-00035912 you uKsCqVNfzAQ-00000-00000158-00000488 the title basin is truly America's front uKsCqVNfzAQ-00001-00000488-00000708 yard and I'm really proud of this place uKsCqVNfzAQ-00002-00000709-00001028 they have designated the tidal basin as uKsCqVNfzAQ-00003-00001029-00001433 a national treasure this is a public uKsCqVNfzAQ-00004-00001434-00001618 space designed to represent the best of uKsCqVNfzAQ-00005-00001619-00001789 America and some of our proudest moments uKsCqVNfzAQ-00006-00001791-00002042 in history and it's literally falling uKsCqVNfzAQ-00007-00002043-00002330 and sinking the sea walls are crumbling uKsCqVNfzAQ-00008-00002331-00002588 the sea walls in some places have even uKsCqVNfzAQ-00009-00002589-00002875 collapsed there are cracks in the uKsCqVNfzAQ-00010-00002876-00003032 sidewalk and in some places it's uKsCqVNfzAQ-00011-00003033-00003191 completely blocked that's really uKsCqVNfzAQ-00012-00003192-00003304 beautiful and incredible that so many uKsCqVNfzAQ-00013-00003305-00003479 people can experience this place but it uKsCqVNfzAQ-00014-00003479-00003656 also means that you get a lot of damage uKsCqVNfzAQ-00015-00003657-00004052 from the tourism this specific city uKsCqVNfzAQ-00016-00004053-00004297 should be the role model for the rest of uKsCqVNfzAQ-00017-00004298-00004495 the country this is our National Mall uKsCqVNfzAQ-00018-00004496-00004760 it's the place where we celebrate our uKsCqVNfzAQ-00019-00004761-00005011 democracy it needs to be here in a uKsCqVNfzAQ-00020-00005012-00005170 hundred years and it needs to be in the uKsCqVNfzAQ-00021-00005171-00005362 best shape that it can be uKsCqVNfzAQ-00022-00005363-00006189 [Music] uLg64UhpKB8-00000-00000112-00000375 vision science as the scientific study uLg64UhpKB8-00001-00000376-00000495 of vision uLg64UhpKB8-00002-00000496-00000751 vision science encompasses all studies uLg64UhpKB8-00003-00000752-00000966 of vision such as how human and uLg64UhpKB8-00004-00000967-00001231 non-human organisms process visual uLg64UhpKB8-00005-00001232-00001462 information how conscious visual uLg64UhpKB8-00006-00001463-00001695 perception works in humans how to uLg64UhpKB8-00007-00001696-00001951 exploit visual perception for effective uLg64UhpKB8-00008-00001952-00002247 communication and how artificial systems uLg64UhpKB8-00009-00002248-00002510 can do the same tasks uLg64UhpKB8-00010-00002511-00002734 vision science overlaps with or uLg64UhpKB8-00011-00002735-00002942 encompasses disciplines such as uLg64UhpKB8-00012-00002943-00003179 ophthalmology and optometry uLg64UhpKB8-00013-00003180-00003511 neurosciences psychology particularly uLg64UhpKB8-00014-00003511-00003775 sensation and perception psychology uLg64UhpKB8-00015-00003776-00004070 cognitive psychology linguistics uLg64UhpKB8-00016-00004071-00004243 biopsychology uLg64UhpKB8-00017-00004244-00004527 psychophysics and neuropsychology uLg64UhpKB8-00018-00004528-00004902 physics particularly optics ethology and uLg64UhpKB8-00019-00004903-00005191 computer science particularly computer uLg64UhpKB8-00020-00005192-00005454 vision artificial intelligence and uLg64UhpKB8-00021-00005455-00005686 computer graphics as well as other uLg64UhpKB8-00022-00005687-00005863 engineering engineering-related areas uLg64UhpKB8-00023-00005864-00006134 such as data visualization user uLg64UhpKB8-00024-00006135-00006406 interface design and human factors and uLg64UhpKB8-00025-00006408-00006598 ergonomics uLg64UhpKB8-00026-00006600-00007383 below is a list of pertinent journals uLg64UhpKB8-00027-00007384-00007951 topic journals uLg64UhpKB8-00028-00007952-00008223 scientific journals that are exclusively uLg64UhpKB8-00029-00008224-00008446 are predominantly concerned with vision uLg64UhpKB8-00030-00008447-00008567 science uLg64UhpKB8-00031-00008568-00008895 iovs journal of vision vision research uLg64UhpKB8-00032-00008896-00009159 including clinical vision sciences uLg64UhpKB8-00033-00009160-00009399 perception and high perception spatial uLg64UhpKB8-00034-00009400-00009591 vision attention perception and uLg64UhpKB8-00035-00009592-00009887 psychophysics previously perception and uLg64UhpKB8-00036-00009888-00010135 psychophysics journal of the optical uLg64UhpKB8-00037-00010136-00010414 society of america a optometry and uLg64UhpKB8-00038-00010415-00010610 vision science ophthalmic and uLg64UhpKB8-00039-00010611-00010910 physiological optics equals equals see uLg64UhpKB8-00040-00010911-00011211 also uQjN7o3NOg8-00000-00000055-00000385 the green ensign Irish and merge UN is a uQjN7o3NOg8-00001-00000386-00000651 historical flag flown by some Irish uQjN7o3NOg8-00002-00000652-00000889 merchant vessels from the 17th century uQjN7o3NOg8-00003-00000890-00001245 to the early 20th century the flag uQjN7o3NOg8-00004-00001246-00001500 consists of a green field with a golden uQjN7o3NOg8-00005-00001501-00001729 harp in a Canton containing either the uQjN7o3NOg8-00006-00001730-00001987 English flag st. George's Cross or a uQjN7o3NOg8-00007-00001988-00002374 version of the Union Jack this flag has uQjN7o3NOg8-00008-00002375-00002733 appeared in these historical flag plates uQjN7o3NOg8-00009-00002734-00003277 1685 down hums flag chart 1700 lens flag uQjN7o3NOg8-00010-00003278-00003913 chart 1772 French encyclopedia 1783 uQjN7o3NOg8-00011-00003914-00004200 Bowles's universal display of the naval uQjN7o3NOg8-00012-00004201-00004675 flags of all nations 1799 flags of all uQjN7o3NOg8-00013-00004676-00005118 nations 1848 flagon aller sea Ferrand in uQjN7o3NOg8-00014-00005119-00005541 national 1868 Johnston's new chart of uQjN7o3NOg8-00015-00005542-00005970 national emblems 1889 drawings of flags uQjN7o3NOg8-00016-00005971-00006436 of all nations British Admiralty 1917 uQjN7o3NOg8-00017-00006437-00006663 National Geographic flag book there uQjN7o3NOg8-00018-00006664-00006883 remains a lively debate concerning uQjN7o3NOg8-00019-00006884-00007128 whether the flag had any form of local uQjN7o3NOg8-00020-00007129-00007348 official status within the British Isles uQjN7o3NOg8-00021-00007348-00007620 or was simply an informal flag used by uQjN7o3NOg8-00022-00007621-00008278 some merchant ships uQjN7o3NOg8-00023-00008279-00008848 topic see also uQjN7o3NOg8-00024-00008849-00009396 Blue Ensign Red Ensign White Ensign uQjN7o3NOg8-00025-00009397-00010017 green HAARP flag uQjN7o3NOg8-00026-00010018-00010603 topic external links uQjN7o3NOg8-00027-00010604-00011086 green ensign at fo TW site uRwyA1MGRxU-00000-00000126-00001110 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00001-00001111-00001804 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00002-00001805-00002042 this tutorial on how to play you owe me uRwyA1MGRxU-00003-00002043-00002264 by the chainsmokers we're in Santorini uRwyA1MGRxU-00004-00002265-00002485 there's no capo I'm gonna teach you this uRwyA1MGRxU-00005-00002486-00003247 part and then also the chorus chords uRwyA1MGRxU-00006-00003247-00003488 we're going to start out with the uRwyA1MGRxU-00007-00003489-00003863 introduction which is this part it's a uRwyA1MGRxU-00008-00003864-00004025 little tough with the finger picking but uRwyA1MGRxU-00009-00004026-00004178 I think we can get through here so uRwyA1MGRxU-00010-00004179-00004354 you're really starting out in this a uRwyA1MGRxU-00011-00004355-00004513 position but you just need two fingers uRwyA1MGRxU-00012-00004514-00004711 so you could use your middle and your uRwyA1MGRxU-00013-00004712-00004797 ring finger uRwyA1MGRxU-00014-00004798-00004999 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00015-00005000-00005206 we're just picking between those and we uRwyA1MGRxU-00016-00005207-00005536 are on the g string as your third string uRwyA1MGRxU-00017-00005537-00005776 up with your middle finger and b string uRwyA1MGRxU-00018-00005777-00006034 with your ring finger on the second fret uRwyA1MGRxU-00019-00006035-00006251 so we're picking between those two uRwyA1MGRxU-00020-00006252-00006784 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00021-00006784-00007276 I'm gonna do that for four times so uRwyA1MGRxU-00022-00007277-00007456 then we're gonna slide our index finger uRwyA1MGRxU-00023-00007456-00007848 over here onto the first fret of the G uRwyA1MGRxU-00024-00007848-00008125 remove our pinky up to the forefront of uRwyA1MGRxU-00025-00008126-00008428 the G then we're going to move our pinky uRwyA1MGRxU-00026-00008429-00008650 up one fret to the fourth fret of the D uRwyA1MGRxU-00027-00008651-00008878 and slide our index on the second fret uRwyA1MGRxU-00028-00008879-00009355 of the G and we're gonna pick DG DG DG uRwyA1MGRxU-00029-00009356-00009630 DG uRwyA1MGRxU-00030-00009631-00009874 okay so it's a lot to remember here uRwyA1MGRxU-00031-00009875-00010039 let's start from beginning go slow uRwyA1MGRxU-00032-00010040-00011270 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00033-00011271-00011487 okay really slow here so we're gonna go uRwyA1MGRxU-00034-00011488-00011875 four times on this first part uRwyA1MGRxU-00035-00011876-00012313 first fret fourth fret of the G move uRwyA1MGRxU-00036-00012314-00012424 your pinky up to the fourth fret of the uRwyA1MGRxU-00037-00012425-00012610 D put your index on the second fret of uRwyA1MGRxU-00038-00012611-00013755 the g DG DG DG uRwyA1MGRxU-00039-00013756-00015615 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00040-00015616-00015996 okay so and that's my take on how you uRwyA1MGRxU-00041-00015997-00016215 can play that introductory part it's uRwyA1MGRxU-00042-00016216-00016407 like it's a mix of the rhythm guitar and uRwyA1MGRxU-00043-00016408-00016707 then the background chords that are uRwyA1MGRxU-00044-00016708-00016896 going on there so that's how I'm playing uRwyA1MGRxU-00045-00016897-00017190 the introduction there are chords unity uRwyA1MGRxU-00046-00017191-00017790 oh I think it starts a G C F and comes uRwyA1MGRxU-00047-00017791-00017904 back to a D uRwyA1MGRxU-00048-00017905-00018057 there's chords on ultimate guitar I'll uRwyA1MGRxU-00049-00018058-00018258 post the link to that where I'll also uRwyA1MGRxU-00050-00018259-00018495 list the chords there if you'd like but uRwyA1MGRxU-00051-00018496-00018639 I just wanted to go over how to play the uRwyA1MGRxU-00052-00018640-00018819 chorus as well so the chorus is an uRwyA1MGRxU-00053-00018820-00019299 f-sharp minor B minor to an a I'm not uRwyA1MGRxU-00054-00019300-00019422 gonna teach you how those chords I'm uRwyA1MGRxU-00055-00019423-00019536 gonna assume you already know playing uRwyA1MGRxU-00056-00019537-00019668 because there's some Barre chords in uRwyA1MGRxU-00057-00019669-00019848 there which makes it tough to play if uRwyA1MGRxU-00058-00019849-00019971 you don't know but so the progression uRwyA1MGRxU-00059-00019972-00020433 there is just F sharp minor the e to our uRwyA1MGRxU-00060-00020434-00020742 egg or if we want to add some strumming uRwyA1MGRxU-00061-00020743-00020908 in here we can go uRwyA1MGRxU-00062-00020909-00021441 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00063-00021442-00022004 down down up uRwyA1MGRxU-00064-00022005-00023658 [Music] uRwyA1MGRxU-00065-00023659-00023894 and that's it so that's how you can go uRwyA1MGRxU-00066-00023895-00024144 through the chorus I don't expect you to uRwyA1MGRxU-00067-00024145-00024255 pick that up very quickly if you're uRwyA1MGRxU-00068-00024256-00024396 beginner because there are those power uRwyA1MGRxU-00069-00024397-00024627 chords in there but that's going to be uRwyA1MGRxU-00070-00024628-00024708 it for this tutorial uRwyA1MGRxU-00071-00024709-00024840 if you have questions Loden comment uRwyA1MGRxU-00072-00024841-00025065 below if you enjoy this content and want uRwyA1MGRxU-00073-00025066-00025208 to see more please subscribe to my uRwyA1MGRxU-00074-00025209-00025481 channel thank you uS6eXJwKEKk-00000-00000014-00002359 [Music] uS6eXJwKEKk-00001-00002360-00002655 hi welcome to the cm ip studio here at uS6eXJwKEKk-00002-00002656-00002999 nab show 2022 my name is claire plastid uS6eXJwKEKk-00003-00003000-00003215 and i'm joined today by oliver elites uS6eXJwKEKk-00004-00003215-00003567 the ceo of nanocosmos hi welcome thanks uS6eXJwKEKk-00005-00003568-00003743 for having me so can you tell me a uS6eXJwKEKk-00006-00003744-00003935 little bit about your business sure i'm uS6eXJwKEKk-00007-00003936-00004167 the founder and ceo of nanocosmos we uS6eXJwKEKk-00008-00004168-00004335 provide nanostream cloud which is a uS6eXJwKEKk-00009-00004336-00004551 global live streaming platform for ultra uS6eXJwKEKk-00010-00004552-00004743 low latency live streaming delivery for uS6eXJwKEKk-00011-00004744-00005070 interactive use cases that's used for uS6eXJwKEKk-00012-00005071-00005254 event based type of applications but uS6eXJwKEKk-00013-00005255-00005479 also for 24 7 operation uS6eXJwKEKk-00014-00005480-00005775 and streams like betting gaming and uS6eXJwKEKk-00015-00005776-00006054 auctioning type use cases okay and how uS6eXJwKEKk-00016-00006055-00006199 are you different from some of the other uS6eXJwKEKk-00017-00006200-00006454 companies in this area so we have a very uS6eXJwKEKk-00018-00006455-00006719 stable system very mature we introduced uS6eXJwKEKk-00019-00006720-00006991 nanosim cloud 2015 already nanocosmos uS6eXJwKEKk-00020-00006992-00007175 goes back to 1998 so we have a lot of uS6eXJwKEKk-00021-00007176-00007391 experience building up video solutions uS6eXJwKEKk-00022-00007392-00007606 and our platform is really 100 stable uS6eXJwKEKk-00023-00007608-00007687 100 uS6eXJwKEKk-00024-00007688-00007951 sla for global operations at a global uS6eXJwKEKk-00025-00007952-00008159 scale very lightweight to integrate into uS6eXJwKEKk-00026-00008159-00008374 custom business applications we also uS6eXJwKEKk-00027-00008375-00008567 have additional tools for metrics uS6eXJwKEKk-00028-00008568-00008759 analytics which help improving the uS6eXJwKEKk-00029-00008760-00008959 quality of service of the live streams uS6eXJwKEKk-00030-00008960-00009191 getting inside business intelligence uS6eXJwKEKk-00031-00009192-00009287 also uS6eXJwKEKk-00032-00009288-00009487 things like advanced security to keep uS6eXJwKEKk-00033-00009488-00009719 the content secure and safe for against uS6eXJwKEKk-00034-00009720-00009823 misuse uS6eXJwKEKk-00035-00009824-00010023 right what are you showing here at the uS6eXJwKEKk-00036-00010024-00010238 nav show this year we're showing a new uS6eXJwKEKk-00037-00010239-00010487 generation of now stream cloud which uh uS6eXJwKEKk-00038-00010488-00010727 has more features and more tech better uS6eXJwKEKk-00039-00010728-00010919 better technology for ultraviolet since uS6eXJwKEKk-00040-00010920-00011159 live streaming also more tools for uS6eXJwKEKk-00041-00011160-00011414 analytics and metrics and an expanded uS6eXJwKEKk-00042-00011415-00011703 video cdn for global operations even in uS6eXJwKEKk-00043-00011704-00011870 hostile networks adaptive bit rate uS6eXJwKEKk-00044-00011871-00012110 improvements for higher for keeping up uS6eXJwKEKk-00045-00012111-00012270 the highest possible quality of uS6eXJwKEKk-00046-00012271-00012470 experience and quality of service for uS6eXJwKEKk-00047-00012471-00012695 our customers customers uS6eXJwKEKk-00048-00012696-00012863 would you mind giving us a bit of a hint uS6eXJwKEKk-00049-00012863-00012991 as to what we might see from the uS6eXJwKEKk-00050-00012991-00013207 business over the next 12 months sure so uS6eXJwKEKk-00051-00013208-00013391 we see a lot of innovations coming on uS6eXJwKEKk-00052-00013391-00013711 and we always we're innovating and uS6eXJwKEKk-00053-00013712-00013999 keeping up with new things and we will uS6eXJwKEKk-00054-00014000-00014207 further improve our system for higher uS6eXJwKEKk-00055-00014208-00014383 quality of service and quality of uS6eXJwKEKk-00056-00014384-00014591 experience of the live streams add uS6eXJwKEKk-00057-00014591-00014775 features and functions to the system to uS6eXJwKEKk-00058-00014776-00014999 make it more usable more user-friendly uS6eXJwKEKk-00059-00015000-00015222 better integratable with partnering uS6eXJwKEKk-00060-00015223-00015471 systems like event platforms uS6eXJwKEKk-00061-00015472-00015750 and further go ahead with the further uS6eXJwKEKk-00062-00015751-00015991 innovations for the coming years okay uS6eXJwKEKk-00063-00015991-00016143 well that's really exciting well thank uS6eXJwKEKk-00064-00016144-00016294 you so much for coming into the studio uS6eXJwKEKk-00065-00016295-00016455 and talking to me today thank you very uS6eXJwKEKk-00066-00016456-00016606 much uS6eXJwKEKk-00067-00016607-00018068 [Music] uS6eXJwKEKk-00068-00018069-00018743 [Music] uS6eXJwKEKk-00069-00018744-00018951 you uSKWQ7xTW24-00000-00000058-00000367 chemical vapor deposition was a monthly uSKWQ7xTW24-00001-00000368-00000586 peer-reviewed scientific journal uSKWQ7xTW24-00002-00000587-00000935 covering materials science it was uSKWQ7xTW24-00003-00000936-00001225 established in 1995 and ceased uSKWQ7xTW24-00004-00001226-00001574 independent publication in 2015 when it uSKWQ7xTW24-00005-00001575-00001823 became a section of advanced materials uSKWQ7xTW24-00006-00001823-00002198 interfaces the journal was published by uSKWQ7xTW24-00007-00002199-00002498 Wiley VCH in the editor-in-chief was uSKWQ7xTW24-00008-00002499-00003152 Peter Gregory uSKWQ7xTW24-00009-00003153-00003490 topic abstracting and indexing uSKWQ7xTW24-00010-00003492-00003836 [Music] uSKWQ7xTW24-00011-00003836-00004124 the journal was abstracted and indexed uSKWQ7xTW24-00012-00004125-00004268 in uSKWQ7xTW24-00013-00004269-00004487 according to the journal citation uSKWQ7xTW24-00014-00004488-00004862 reports the journals final 2016 impact uSKWQ7xTW24-00015-00004863-00005468 factor was one 333 uWOe0tgm9N4-00000-00000003-00000302 hello a quick update of this week city uWOe0tgm9N4-00001-00000303-00000526 of Adelaide Council meeting planning uWOe0tgm9N4-00002-00000527-00000767 reform the state government planning uWOe0tgm9N4-00003-00000768-00001043 reform process continues at pace with uWOe0tgm9N4-00004-00001044-00001286 many challenges being introduced as the uWOe0tgm9N4-00005-00001287-00001493 new rules are progressively rolled out uWOe0tgm9N4-00006-00001494-00001780 over the next 12 months as part of these uWOe0tgm9N4-00007-00001782-00001976 changes Council is considering a uWOe0tgm9N4-00008-00001977-00002198 community forum to ensure everyone is uWOe0tgm9N4-00009-00002199-00002429 informed and understands what these uWOe0tgm9N4-00010-00002430-00002634 changes will mean to them uWOe0tgm9N4-00011-00002635-00002912 additionally council has concerns about uWOe0tgm9N4-00012-00002913-00003125 some of the changes being made as part uWOe0tgm9N4-00013-00003126-00003329 of the reforms particularly over the uWOe0tgm9N4-00014-00003329-00003529 potential for demolition of heritage uWOe0tgm9N4-00015-00003530-00003788 properties changes to the appeal rights uWOe0tgm9N4-00016-00003789-00004079 for third parties and inflexible ability uWOe0tgm9N4-00017-00004079-00004265 for changes in the timeframes for uWOe0tgm9N4-00018-00004266-00004517 approvals will be providing this uWOe0tgm9N4-00019-00004518-00004685 feedback to the government as part of uWOe0tgm9N4-00020-00004686-00004909 the reform process uWOe0tgm9N4-00021-00004910-00005272 formula e Adelaide has a long motorsport uWOe0tgm9N4-00022-00005273-00005547 history from Formula e supercars and the uWOe0tgm9N4-00023-00005548-00005719 classic rally all of which have uWOe0tgm9N4-00024-00005720-00005929 contributed significantly to our tourism uWOe0tgm9N4-00025-00005930-00006199 economy over many decades along with uWOe0tgm9N4-00026-00006200-00006379 being a potential new a tourism uWOe0tgm9N4-00027-00006380-00006498 attraction for the city uWOe0tgm9N4-00028-00006500-00006718 formula e aligns with Adelaide's uWOe0tgm9N4-00029-00006719-00006865 international reputation for uWOe0tgm9N4-00030-00006866-00007156 sustainability innovation and the future uWOe0tgm9N4-00031-00007156-00007453 focused economy noting that any of the uWOe0tgm9N4-00032-00007454-00007606 scalars formulae would need to be uWOe0tgm9N4-00033-00007606-00007785 supported heavily by the state uWOe0tgm9N4-00034-00007786-00007923 government and the private sector uWOe0tgm9N4-00035-00007925-00008181 last night council endorsed the concept uWOe0tgm9N4-00036-00008183-00008427 of a formula e car race being in uWOe0tgm9N4-00037-00008428-00008620 Adelaide and I'll be raising this uWOe0tgm9N4-00038-00008621-00008796 initiative with the state government at uWOe0tgm9N4-00039-00008797-00008959 a future meeting of the capital city uWOe0tgm9N4-00040-00008960-00009388 committee defibrillators council will uWOe0tgm9N4-00041-00009389-00009607 move for four automatic external uWOe0tgm9N4-00042-00009608-00009859 defibrillators inside the cities three uWOe0tgm9N4-00043-00009860-00010035 community centres and the Hart Street uWOe0tgm9N4-00044-00010036-00010270 library two walls outside of the uWOe0tgm9N4-00045-00010271-00010513 locations so that the AEDs are uWOe0tgm9N4-00046-00010514-00010795 accessible 24 hours a day this brings uWOe0tgm9N4-00047-00010796-00011131 the total of 24/7 iAds in the city of uWOe0tgm9N4-00048-00011132-00011342 Adelaide to 15 uWOe0tgm9N4-00049-00011343-00011600 Central Market arcade management plan as uWOe0tgm9N4-00050-00011601-00011897 the Central Market arcade redevelopment uWOe0tgm9N4-00051-00011898-00012137 gets further along the process Council uWOe0tgm9N4-00052-00012138-00012374 developed a detailed management plan to uWOe0tgm9N4-00053-00012375-00012554 mitigate the impacts on the Central uWOe0tgm9N4-00054-00012555-00012773 Market arcade traders the Central Market uWOe0tgm9N4-00055-00012774-00013010 traders and the neighboring precincts uWOe0tgm9N4-00056-00013011-00013241 this will include but not be limited to uWOe0tgm9N4-00057-00013241-00013490 transport movements pedestrian access uWOe0tgm9N4-00058-00013491-00013766 marketing leases and car park operations uWOe0tgm9N4-00059-00013766-00014006 a report from our administration on a uWOe0tgm9N4-00060-00014007-00014222 potential relocation strategy for uWOe0tgm9N4-00061-00014222-00014393 Central Market arcade trades that uWOe0tgm9N4-00062-00014394-00014660 traders has also been requested and will uWOe0tgm9N4-00063-00014661-00014899 return to the council in the near future uWOe0tgm9N4-00064-00014900-00015251 public art Council agreed to a 10-year uWOe0tgm9N4-00065-00015252-00015472 extension of a line of the not by birth uWOe0tgm9N4-00066-00015474-00015713 flugel Minh and the eternal question by uWOe0tgm9N4-00067-00015713-00015916 Richard tipping both located in light uWOe0tgm9N4-00068-00015918-00016130 square with the upcoming school holidays uWOe0tgm9N4-00069-00016131-00016346 it's a perfect time to explore the many uWOe0tgm9N4-00070-00016347-00016580 public art installations in our city so uWOe0tgm9N4-00071-00016581-00016784 visit our website and search for the uWOe0tgm9N4-00072-00016785-00017060 public art trails as always I welcome uWOe0tgm9N4-00073-00017061-00017273 your comments and your feedback thank uWOe0tgm9N4-00074-00017274-00017537 you for watching uXtO_c9_Mdy-00000-00000040-00000945 [Music] uXtO_c9_Mdy-00001-00000946-00001211 Peter dengue thrush you served as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00002-00001212-00001537 chairman of the board from 2007 to 2011 uXtO_c9_Mdy-00003-00001538-00001754 during the Bush and Obama uXtO_c9_Mdy-00004-00001755-00001979 administrations how would you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00005-00001980-00002159 characterize the relationship between uXtO_c9_Mdy-00006-00002160-00002384 ICANN and the US government during that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00007-00002385-00002642 period I think I kind always done very uXtO_c9_Mdy-00008-00002643-00002809 well by having the relationship that has uXtO_c9_Mdy-00009-00002810-00002957 had with the US government and I've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00010-00002958-00003193 often said this to others and thought uXtO_c9_Mdy-00011-00003194-00003422 about it if if I can had been set up or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00012-00003422-00003554 if the internet had being invented in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00013-00003554-00003809 any other country one can imagine there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00014-00003810-00003875 would have been a very difficult uXtO_c9_Mdy-00015-00003876-00004076 relationship with the government but in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00016-00004077-00004328 fact being in the United States in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00017-00004329-00004620 general with the laws that are available uXtO_c9_Mdy-00018-00004621-00004835 and the government has actually I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00019-00004836-00005036 being a good thing for ICANN interested uXtO_c9_Mdy-00020-00005037-00005375 in your thoughts in it to that point it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00021-00005376-00005506 would have been easy it strikes me uXtO_c9_Mdy-00022-00005507-00005672 everybody is aware that the internet uXtO_c9_Mdy-00023-00005673-00005849 sort of arose from u.s. government uXtO_c9_Mdy-00024-00005850-00006136 research it would have been very easy uXtO_c9_Mdy-00025-00006137-00006375 for the US government the USG to say uXtO_c9_Mdy-00026-00006376-00006817 okay we're throughout this development uXtO_c9_Mdy-00027-00006818-00007048 of this thing called the Internet we're uXtO_c9_Mdy-00028-00007050-00007241 going to preserve control over the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00029-00007242-00007564 domain name system the DNS they didn't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00030-00007565-00007735 they went out of their way to say we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00031-00007736-00007909 want to transition this to the private uXtO_c9_Mdy-00032-00007911-00008114 sector why do you think that is I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00033-00008115-00008357 you had to go back even earlier because uXtO_c9_Mdy-00034-00008358-00008519 there was a fit all no such thing as a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00035-00008520-00008648 domain name system when the internet uXtO_c9_Mdy-00036-00008649-00008813 first started and so we had packet uXtO_c9_Mdy-00037-00008814-00008987 switching programs working for quite a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00038-00008988-00009263 long time before mr. Macha petrus gave uXtO_c9_Mdy-00039-00009264-00009542 us the domain name system and so you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00040-00009543-00009721 wouldn't have you couldn't have made the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00041-00009722-00009959 split in that way and nothing to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00042-00009960-00010094 remember I guess is that there were many uXtO_c9_Mdy-00043-00010095-00010217 alternatives to the internet being uXtO_c9_Mdy-00044-00010218-00010406 tested and tried including at a very uXtO_c9_Mdy-00045-00010407-00010538 high level the International uXtO_c9_Mdy-00046-00010539-00010735 Telecommunications Union and other uXtO_c9_Mdy-00047-00010736-00010877 governments were pushing a completely uXtO_c9_Mdy-00048-00010878-00011051 different set of protocols than what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00049-00011052-00011506 eventually became the Internet so I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00050-00011507-00011860 think we are lucky that the first of all uXtO_c9_Mdy-00051-00011861-00012103 the approach that the inventors took as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00052-00012104-00012253 well as the US government that mostly uXtO_c9_Mdy-00053-00012254-00012496 employed them was that this was probably uXtO_c9_Mdy-00054-00012497-00012610 because then didn't realize how uXtO_c9_Mdy-00055-00012611-00012794 successful it was going to be but also uXtO_c9_Mdy-00056-00012795-00013016 because there was a pattern of if you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00057-00013016-00013160 like openness about that sort of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00058-00013161-00013325 technology that it was going to be made uXtO_c9_Mdy-00059-00013326-00013382 available uXtO_c9_Mdy-00060-00013383-00013559 for for the community for industry to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00061-00013560-00013808 use and as a result we've done I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00062-00013809-00014141 very well out of it you said that we're uXtO_c9_Mdy-00063-00014141-00014347 kind of fortunate that the internet was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00064-00014349-00014722 invented in the u.s. in response to my uXtO_c9_Mdy-00065-00014724-00015019 first question elaborate on that for me uXtO_c9_Mdy-00066-00015021-00015332 well of course the whole internet wasn't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00067-00015333-00015452 invented the use but some of the key uXtO_c9_Mdy-00068-00015453-00015694 technology vent and Bob Kahn doing the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00069-00015696-00015929 tcp/ip protocols probably the key to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00070-00015930-00016156 keep that but but there are other uXtO_c9_Mdy-00071-00016157-00016379 building blocks before them a lot of it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00072-00016380-00016559 done in the u.s. I think the reason why uXtO_c9_Mdy-00073-00016560-00016730 it's useful it was in the US but was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00074-00016731-00017036 because visual that's you know this is uXtO_c9_Mdy-00075-00017037-00017222 not just my own Bay bias being an uXtO_c9_Mdy-00076-00017223-00017344 English speaker but I think speaking uXtO_c9_Mdy-00077-00017345-00017450 coming from an english-speaking uXtO_c9_Mdy-00078-00017451-00017666 background meant that of its widespread uXtO_c9_Mdy-00079-00017667-00017936 adoption was assistant I think coming uXtO_c9_Mdy-00080-00017937-00018155 from a country which had reasonably uXtO_c9_Mdy-00081-00018156-00018338 strong laws very strong enforcement of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00082-00018339-00018596 law strong observance of the rule of law uXtO_c9_Mdy-00083-00018597-00018827 all means that people were confident in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00084-00018828-00019022 building institutions and trusting to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00085-00019023-00019244 contracts for example which is how we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00086-00019245-00019451 control most of the behavior etc on the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00087-00019452-00019613 internet around on the domain name uXtO_c9_Mdy-00088-00019614-00019727 system were all controlled by the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00089-00019728-00019919 contracts so having a having a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00090-00019920-00020162 jurisdiction that understood contracts uXtO_c9_Mdy-00091-00020163-00020429 and where they could be enforced I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00092-00020430-00020494 made a big difference uXtO_c9_Mdy-00093-00020495-00020840 it was during your tenure that the JPA uXtO_c9_Mdy-00094-00020841-00021155 the joint project agreement was replaced uXtO_c9_Mdy-00095-00021156-00021467 or succeeded by the affirmation of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00096-00021468-00021677 commitments first of all explain to me uXtO_c9_Mdy-00097-00021678-00021989 what the JPA was and secondly why this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00098-00021990-00022313 succession was important well Lexi is I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00099-00022314-00022493 think the ending of the JPA was probably uXtO_c9_Mdy-00100-00022494-00022763 the most significant thing that of my uXtO_c9_Mdy-00101-00022764-00022928 term and a lot of other things happen in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00102-00022929-00023114 that time a lot of people are calm give uXtO_c9_Mdy-00103-00023115-00023407 me credit for working on ideas or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00104-00023408-00023702 restructuring ICANN or or the new gTLD uXtO_c9_Mdy-00105-00023703-00023969 program but in fact I think the one of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00106-00023970-00024137 the most significant steps was that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00107-00024138-00024419 transition so you need to understand I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00108-00024420-00024544 think when we started there were three uXtO_c9_Mdy-00109-00024545-00024791 there are three major agreements that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00110-00024792-00025150 that I can was involved in and the first uXtO_c9_Mdy-00111-00025151-00025385 one was the ionic contract actually uXtO_c9_Mdy-00112-00025386-00025583 managing the database that tells the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00113-00025584-00025739 Internet domain name system in the IP uXtO_c9_Mdy-00114-00025739-00025996 addressing system where things are so uXtO_c9_Mdy-00115-00025997-00026189 that was quite important the other one uXtO_c9_Mdy-00116-00026189-00026464 was when the US government wanted to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00117-00026466-00026631 encourage the internet community uXtO_c9_Mdy-00118-00026632-00026901 build a structure that in the end became uXtO_c9_Mdy-00119-00026902-00027255 I can when I can't emerged one of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00120-00027256-00027458 several proposals as to how to carry out uXtO_c9_Mdy-00121-00027460-00027651 the principles of the white paper in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00122-00027652-00028011 green paper there was a Memorandum of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00123-00028012-00028191 Understanding signed between the US uXtO_c9_Mdy-00124-00028192-00028443 government and this new body called uXtO_c9_Mdy-00125-00028444-00028677 ICANN which basically said look if you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00126-00028677-00028899 do all these things we will transition uXtO_c9_Mdy-00127-00028900-00029027 control of this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00128-00029029-00029292 Ayana system to this body but but you've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00129-00029293-00029552 got to prove yourselves and you know we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00130-00029554-00029831 were startup starting from scratch and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00131-00029832-00030201 so the joint project agreement was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00132-00030202-00030333 originally the Memorandum of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00133-00030333-00030531 Understanding and what that required uXtO_c9_Mdy-00134-00030532-00030729 ICANN to do was build safe and stable uXtO_c9_Mdy-00135-00030730-00030894 relationships with all of the key uXtO_c9_Mdy-00136-00030895-00031050 players and the Internet infrastructure uXtO_c9_Mdy-00137-00031051-00031272 and I started off having relationships uXtO_c9_Mdy-00138-00031273-00031524 with almost none of them and through a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00139-00031525-00031795 variety of political diplomatic uXtO_c9_Mdy-00140-00031797-00032061 contractual and cooperative sort of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00141-00032062-00032310 moves I can has become the place where uXtO_c9_Mdy-00142-00032311-00032577 for example my background and the CCT of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00143-00032577-00032784 these the CCT of these signed up and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00144-00032785-00032997 said yes we want an organization where uXtO_c9_Mdy-00145-00032998-00033201 we can come and talk about the incident uXtO_c9_Mdy-00146-00033202-00033462 connectivity issues we'll talk about our uXtO_c9_Mdy-00147-00033463-00033699 issues at home but we need a global uXtO_c9_Mdy-00148-00033700-00034059 place to come when the monopoly in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00149-00034060-00034278 relation to the generic names was being uXtO_c9_Mdy-00150-00034279-00034449 broken up originally was only one uXtO_c9_Mdy-00151-00034450-00034797 registrar by all.com nitinol named from uXtO_c9_Mdy-00152-00034798-00035052 one one store and so one of our first uXtO_c9_Mdy-00153-00035053-00035298 exercises was to bring some competition uXtO_c9_Mdy-00154-00035299-00035568 to that that required us setting up a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00155-00035569-00035787 stable contract that registrar's could uXtO_c9_Mdy-00156-00035788-00036051 sign up to and then rules that allow uXtO_c9_Mdy-00157-00036052-00036423 them to access the registries so each of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00158-00036424-00036555 these was a massive sort of exercise uXtO_c9_Mdy-00159-00036556-00036738 creating the concept of registrar's and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00160-00036739-00036870 then creating the framework for them to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00161-00036871-00037056 exist and then bringing out the bringing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00162-00037057-00037311 them into I can so the MOU said you need uXtO_c9_Mdy-00163-00037312-00037491 to do all these things and once you've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00164-00037492-00037644 got all these things in place and you've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00165-00037645-00037833 got a safe and straight stable structure uXtO_c9_Mdy-00166-00037834-00038193 we will transition the Ayana function to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00167-00038194-00038408 you because you will be you'll be ready uXtO_c9_Mdy-00168-00038409-00038667 so much of my time at ICANN was spent uXtO_c9_Mdy-00169-00038668-00038822 trying to live up to that obligation uXtO_c9_Mdy-00170-00038823-00039180 create and I can that was doing all the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00171-00039181-00039417 things that and I can should do and was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00172-00039418-00039627 trusted by the rest of the community to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00173-00039628-00040011 do them and so I when I was chair Irie uXtO_c9_Mdy-00174-00040012-00040170 the conclusion with support from the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00175-00040171-00040434 board that we had got to that point we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00176-00040435-00040608 didn't get there quickly or easily uXtO_c9_Mdy-00177-00040609-00040865 but the memory and of understanding uXtO_c9_Mdy-00178-00040866-00041031 which had transitioned itself by the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00179-00041032-00041237 stage to the joint project agreement was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00180-00041238-00041318 coming to an end uXtO_c9_Mdy-00181-00041319-00041583 and we said well let's see whether or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00182-00041584-00041757 not we can make that the end there was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00183-00041758-00041895 originally only supposed to last for two uXtO_c9_Mdy-00184-00041896-00042140 years and by now it was sort of seven or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00185-00042141-00042486 eight years nine years old I thought and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00186-00042487-00042651 I think the board thought that we had uXtO_c9_Mdy-00187-00042652-00042885 actually completed the obligations of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00188-00042886-00043265 the original MOU and so first thing we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00189-00043266-00043539 did was put together the previous uXtO_c9_Mdy-00190-00043540-00043686 committee set up by the CEO the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00191-00043687-00043890 president strategy committee and we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00192-00043891-00044055 repurposed that God and some new people uXtO_c9_Mdy-00193-00044056-00044315 and set about on a project that was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00194-00044316-00044546 actually helped triggered or named by uXtO_c9_Mdy-00195-00044547-00044777 Meredith Attwell Baker who was the one uXtO_c9_Mdy-00196-00044778-00045012 of the the chief contact at the US uXtO_c9_Mdy-00197-00045013-00045146 government that we were dealing with at uXtO_c9_Mdy-00198-00045147-00045432 NTIA so she had written us a letter uXtO_c9_Mdy-00199-00045433-00045525 because we'd had some preliminary uXtO_c9_Mdy-00200-00045526-00045759 conversations about ending that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00201-00045760-00046029 particular relationship and in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00202-00046030-00046161 course of that letter she said that what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00203-00046162-00046323 I can needed to do was improve its uXtO_c9_Mdy-00204-00046324-00046629 institutional confidence and so we gave uXtO_c9_Mdy-00205-00046630-00046794 that to the president strategy committee uXtO_c9_Mdy-00206-00046795-00046998 and said what do we do to improve uXtO_c9_Mdy-00207-00046999-00047211 institutional confidence and I can and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00208-00047212-00047448 that committee then went all around the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00209-00047449-00047655 world interviewed community members uXtO_c9_Mdy-00210-00047656-00047970 outside people we had a number of high uXtO_c9_Mdy-00211-00047971-00048167 profile meetings and asked the community uXtO_c9_Mdy-00212-00048168-00048411 what do you think's wrong with ICANN how uXtO_c9_Mdy-00213-00048412-00048555 do we improve it and whatever what I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00214-00048556-00048671 have particularly the things that will uXtO_c9_Mdy-00215-00048672-00048890 give you confidence that I can can stand uXtO_c9_Mdy-00216-00048891-00049090 alone without this particular uXtO_c9_Mdy-00217-00049091-00049371 relationship with the US government it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00218-00049372-00049500 was very important because under the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00219-00049501-00049721 joint project agreement I can was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00220-00049722-00049917 effectively subject to a lot of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00221-00049918-00050256 Department of Commerce control it's a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00222-00050257-00050421 very interrupted a second was that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00223-00050422-00050754 control ever exercised yes it was in an uXtO_c9_Mdy-00224-00050755-00050946 administrative kind of way what it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00225-00050947-00051363 provided was a series of targets that I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00226-00051364-00051626 can't had to keep meeting you I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00227-00051627-00051774 mentioned a couple of contracts with the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00228-00051775-00051989 CCT of these contracts with the address uXtO_c9_Mdy-00229-00051990-00052166 organizations relationships with uXtO_c9_Mdy-00230-00052167-00052329 business relationships with governments uXtO_c9_Mdy-00231-00052329-00052521 so all of these things had to be done uXtO_c9_Mdy-00232-00052522-00052829 but the key requirement was that the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00233-00052830-00053004 Department of Commerce would would uXtO_c9_Mdy-00234-00053004-00053202 frequently fit all there was a regular uXtO_c9_Mdy-00235-00053203-00053267 reporting uXtO_c9_Mdy-00236-00053269-00053360 acquirement so there was a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00237-00053361-00053574 master-servant relationship set up in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00238-00053575-00053829 that structure which we started to feel uXtO_c9_Mdy-00239-00053829-00054179 was no longer appropriate and the need uXtO_c9_Mdy-00240-00054180-00054615 to change all that so that was how was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00241-00054616-00054825 exercised and the probably the most uXtO_c9_Mdy-00242-00054826-00055020 galling if you like or the most obvious uXtO_c9_Mdy-00243-00055021-00055404 feature of this control was all there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00244-00055404-00055578 are two aspects first of all of when the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00245-00055579-00055749 Department of Commerce was required to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00246-00055750-00055899 give testimony in Senate or House uXtO_c9_Mdy-00247-00055900-00056208 hearings the US government itself in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00248-00056209-00056394 those institutions made it quite clear uXtO_c9_Mdy-00249-00056395-00056550 that the Department of Communists had uXtO_c9_Mdy-00250-00056551-00056709 the power to go and do things until I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00251-00056710-00057126 can what to do and remember I can't as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00252-00057127-00057333 positioning itself as the administrative uXtO_c9_Mdy-00253-00057334-00057504 and coordinating body for the internet uXtO_c9_Mdy-00254-00057504-00057678 for the world and so this particular uXtO_c9_Mdy-00255-00057679-00057861 relationship with the US government was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00256-00057862-00058182 becoming difficult to sell or to sell uXtO_c9_Mdy-00257-00058183-00058388 international to sell internationally is uXtO_c9_Mdy-00258-00058389-00058616 you say what we're trying to do is build uXtO_c9_Mdy-00259-00058617-00058797 the institutional confidence of I can't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00260-00058798-00058998 in the world that the world is going to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00261-00058999-00059141 trust I can to manage all these uXtO_c9_Mdy-00262-00059142-00059301 particular things set up these contracts uXtO_c9_Mdy-00263-00059302-00059675 and run them fairly and so that kind of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00264-00059676-00059940 obvious influence on television where uXtO_c9_Mdy-00265-00059941-00060207 the Senate or the American are doing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00266-00060208-00060348 political organ and having hearings uXtO_c9_Mdy-00267-00060349-00060582 telling the Department of Commerce what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00268-00060583-00060801 to get I can to do let me ask you this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00269-00060802-00061062 Peter did I understand that I understand uXtO_c9_Mdy-00270-00061063-00061229 that you've got the US government over uXtO_c9_Mdy-00271-00061230-00061466 here telling the hill Capitol Hill uXtO_c9_Mdy-00272-00061467-00061742 we've got final say on this we've got uXtO_c9_Mdy-00273-00061744-00062070 control on this and at the same time uXtO_c9_Mdy-00274-00062071-00062196 that you're trying to sell the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00275-00062197-00062346 independence of the organization uXtO_c9_Mdy-00276-00062347-00062637 internationally did the USG to the US uXtO_c9_Mdy-00277-00062638-00062883 government know or care about your uXtO_c9_Mdy-00278-00062884-00063135 difficulties in selling ICANN's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00279-00063136-00063360 independence internationally was it ever uXtO_c9_Mdy-00280-00063361-00063612 a point of discussion I think cited only uXtO_c9_Mdy-00281-00063613-00063774 in in if you think of the sort of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00282-00063775-00063975 concentric circles of influence and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00283-00063976-00064200 knowledge that surround anything the the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00284-00064201-00064457 NTIA officials were very much aware of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00285-00064458-00064691 that and they were being subjected to it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00286-00064692-00064914 because particularly US business who uXtO_c9_Mdy-00287-00064915-00065066 wanted a particular result on the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00288-00065067-00065265 internet in relation to the domain name uXtO_c9_Mdy-00289-00065266-00065469 system would come and Lobby them for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00290-00065470-00065718 example trademark lobbyists who wanted uXtO_c9_Mdy-00291-00065719-00065910 the rules relating to trademark uXtO_c9_Mdy-00292-00065911-00066132 infringement and domain name and things uXtO_c9_Mdy-00293-00066133-00066276 and we had a lot of problems with cyber uXtO_c9_Mdy-00294-00066277-00066501 squatters and so forth instead of going uXtO_c9_Mdy-00295-00066502-00066621 through and I can process uXtO_c9_Mdy-00296-00066622-00066762 achieve their results or sometimes uXtO_c9_Mdy-00297-00066763-00066912 having gone through and I can process uXtO_c9_Mdy-00298-00066913-00067089 and not being happy with the result uXtO_c9_Mdy-00299-00067090-00067236 they were then going Lobby the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00300-00067237-00067365 Department of Commerce and say well if uXtO_c9_Mdy-00301-00067366-00067506 you're controlling these guys you tell uXtO_c9_Mdy-00302-00067507-00067689 them to do this and so the Department of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00303-00067690-00067980 Commerce were very aware of this and and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00304-00067981-00068367 the next layer out at state when and I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00305-00068368-00068514 had this happen as well sitting next to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00306-00068515-00068694 heads of state and some ministers from uXtO_c9_Mdy-00307-00068695-00068973 other countries we would be abused for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00308-00068974-00069132 sometimes quite long periods over a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00309-00069133-00069396 formal dinner by foreign officials uXtO_c9_Mdy-00310-00069397-00069627 saying why is the US government godit's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00311-00069628-00069876 hands in this process and the particular uXtO_c9_Mdy-00312-00069877-00070011 sticking point which I guess who have uXtO_c9_Mdy-00313-00070012-00070272 come to it was actually very small thing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00314-00070273-00070497 but you know in diplomacy with national uXtO_c9_Mdy-00315-00070498-00070665 symbols some of these things have a high uXtO_c9_Mdy-00316-00070666-00070914 degree of friction and create a lot more uXtO_c9_Mdy-00317-00070915-00071160 heat than that and and one of those was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00318-00071161-00071430 the management of the ccTLD so you've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00319-00071431-00071634 got countries have what they regard as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00320-00071635-00071802 their own place on the internet so for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00321-00071803-00071961 New Zealand at starting Zedd for France uXtO_c9_Mdy-00322-00071962-00072240 it's da TFR Brazil has dot BR and and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00323-00072241-00072438 these are large and entities and they've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00324-00072439-00072696 built up a lot of a lot of you know uXtO_c9_Mdy-00325-00072697-00072867 registrations and that's how the right uXtO_c9_Mdy-00326-00072868-00072993 internet has run in those particular uXtO_c9_Mdy-00327-00072994-00073236 countries but any changes to that used uXtO_c9_Mdy-00328-00073237-00073446 to have to require the approval of a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00329-00073447-00073665 relatively low level the town of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00330-00073666-00073965 Commerce staff person and so it looked uXtO_c9_Mdy-00331-00073966-00074163 from the outside as if the national uXtO_c9_Mdy-00332-00074164-00074370 internet system in Brazil or France when uXtO_c9_Mdy-00333-00074371-00074568 he zealand or any other country was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00334-00074569-00074703 actually at the end of the day subject uXtO_c9_Mdy-00335-00074704-00074988 to US government control and so this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00336-00074989-00075225 signalling was much worse than the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00337-00075226-00075429 reality the the interesting thing here uXtO_c9_Mdy-00338-00075430-00075603 is during the IANA stewardship uXtO_c9_Mdy-00339-00075604-00075792 transition the argument was made uXtO_c9_Mdy-00340-00075793-00076302 repeatedly by ICANN that look it's it's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00341-00076303-00076614 hard for us to say that all governments uXtO_c9_Mdy-00342-00076615-00076854 have equal say when the US government uXtO_c9_Mdy-00343-00076855-00077187 actually has this function you seem to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00344-00077188-00077400 be validating that from quite a ways uXtO_c9_Mdy-00345-00077401-00077637 back well certainly a very real problem uXtO_c9_Mdy-00346-00077638-00077841 but let's finish the the JPA point uXtO_c9_Mdy-00347-00077842-00078015 because that was like there's there's a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00348-00078016-00078189 two-step process here the first is the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00349-00078190-00078378 ending the joint project agreement which uXtO_c9_Mdy-00350-00078379-00078495 was ICANN's agreement with the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00351-00078496-00078696 Department of Commerce and so we had uXtO_c9_Mdy-00352-00078697-00078813 this process where we said we think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00353-00078814-00078948 we've finished we think we've done all uXtO_c9_Mdy-00354-00078949-00079152 the things that are in the JPA we went uXtO_c9_Mdy-00355-00079153-00079305 around the world and had the president's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00356-00079306-00079467 strategy committee asked everybody and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00357-00079468-00079605 the issues that they raised were uXtO_c9_Mdy-00358-00079606-00079803 captured they don't want the system able uXtO_c9_Mdy-00359-00079804-00079837 to eat uXtO_c9_Mdy-00360-00079838-00080251 and over and a very other things so we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00361-00080252-00080482 thought we could perform those then we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00362-00080483-00080791 had a period living up to to that and at uXtO_c9_Mdy-00363-00080792-00080935 the time when the time came we said no uXtO_c9_Mdy-00364-00080936-00081112 we're not going to sign an extension of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00365-00081113-00081394 that so when we went into negotiations uXtO_c9_Mdy-00366-00081395-00081642 and it was at the Sydney meeting 2009 uXtO_c9_Mdy-00367-00081643-00081925 where we had the session with the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00368-00081926-00082042 Department of Commerce and said look uXtO_c9_Mdy-00369-00082043-00082246 we're not going to do this anymore we're uXtO_c9_Mdy-00370-00082247-00082372 not going to go sit in this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00371-00082373-00082567 master-servant relationship we're not uXtO_c9_Mdy-00372-00082568-00082684 going to be reporting to you and I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00373-00082685-00082822 didn't mention the other thing I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00374-00082823-00082927 mentioned the Senate and the other uXtO_c9_Mdy-00375-00082928-00083098 hearings the Department of Commerce uXtO_c9_Mdy-00376-00083099-00083266 itself used to say we're going to have a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00377-00083267-00083530 hearing in to how good I can is or not uXtO_c9_Mdy-00378-00083531-00083788 and we wanted that to stop we didn't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00379-00083789-00083815 want uXtO_c9_Mdy-00380-00083816-00084039 I can't performance to be being reviewed uXtO_c9_Mdy-00381-00084040-00084289 against a set of criteria created by the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00382-00084290-00084487 US government by the US government and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00383-00084488-00084670 so the brilliance of the affirmation of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00384-00084671-00084808 commitments was that all that stopped uXtO_c9_Mdy-00385-00084809-00085009 and what the affirmation of commitments uXtO_c9_Mdy-00386-00085010-00085288 it was the community is going to would uXtO_c9_Mdy-00387-00085289-00085474 you I can sew on the US government when uXtO_c9_Mdy-00388-00085475-00085627 you were having this conversation with uXtO_c9_Mdy-00389-00085628-00085798 Commerce and you're going ok we want uXtO_c9_Mdy-00390-00085799-00086098 this to stop we and you were advancing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00391-00086099-00086317 what later became the AOC or the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00392-00086318-00086629 conceptually the AOC what came back at uXtO_c9_Mdy-00393-00086630-00086877 you from commerce from the US government uXtO_c9_Mdy-00394-00086878-00087094 mostly very helpful and this is another uXtO_c9_Mdy-00395-00087095-00087238 reason why they weren't resistant to the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00396-00087239-00087415 idea they wanted to do the right thing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00397-00087416-00087571 and I give them a lot of credit always uXtO_c9_Mdy-00398-00087572-00087811 and it was never we had different views uXtO_c9_Mdy-00399-00087812-00088117 but it was never adversarial and it was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00400-00088118-00088585 always this was the original plan can we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00401-00088586-00088827 do it I have to say earlier uXtO_c9_Mdy-00402-00088828-00089011 administrations that I dealt that I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00403-00089012-00089371 dealt with were and possibly rightly say uXtO_c9_Mdy-00404-00089372-00089494 or of the view that I came was not uXtO_c9_Mdy-00405-00089495-00089677 really in their turn I'm thinking back uXtO_c9_Mdy-00406-00089678-00090031 to the three years before the 2009 uXtO_c9_Mdy-00407-00090032-00090202 meeting when we started raising these uXtO_c9_Mdy-00408-00090203-00090406 conversations and you know I can't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00409-00090407-00090541 probably had a lot of work to do but as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00410-00090542-00090787 I say we thought by 2009 we got to the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00411-00090788-00090961 point where we no longer needed to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00412-00090962-00091114 report to the economists in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00413-00091115-00091228 Department of Commerce should not be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00414-00091229-00091444 having hearings reviewing ICANN's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00415-00091445-00091678 progress and maintaining this sort of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00416-00091679-00092053 control so the AOC the ending of the JPA uXtO_c9_Mdy-00417-00092054-00092299 and creating the AOC was a major uXtO_c9_Mdy-00418-00092300-00092464 milestone of I can't saying we're going uXtO_c9_Mdy-00419-00092465-00092644 to stand on our own now we're going to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00420-00092645-00092806 be subject to full review but it's going uXtO_c9_Mdy-00421-00092807-00093015 to be reviewed by the entire community uXtO_c9_Mdy-00422-00093016-00093232 against the whole series of targets uXtO_c9_Mdy-00423-00093233-00093442 and the Department of Commerce is going uXtO_c9_Mdy-00424-00093443-00093691 to have a role in doing that review as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00425-00093692-00093916 part of the community and that trot set uXtO_c9_Mdy-00426-00093917-00094087 the scene in for the second one which uXtO_c9_Mdy-00427-00094088-00094465 was the transition of the at the end of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00428-00094466-00094642 the bargain if I can gets its elfin to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00429-00094643-00095050 be a major global safe stable manager uXtO_c9_Mdy-00430-00095051-00095227 repository for these internet functions uXtO_c9_Mdy-00431-00095228-00095470 then the last thing to go would be the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00432-00095471-00095722 IANA functions coming into I camp uXtO_c9_Mdy-00433-00095723-00095929 how did the affirmation of commitments uXtO_c9_Mdy-00434-00095930-00096175 both conceptually before they were drawn uXtO_c9_Mdy-00435-00096176-00096373 and when they were signed go over on uXtO_c9_Mdy-00436-00096374-00096727 Capitol Hill well you'd have to ask them uXtO_c9_Mdy-00437-00096728-00097132 I I'm sure you heard that I think I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00438-00097133-00097273 don't think everybody understood it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00439-00097274-00097447 quite quite frankly but I think it was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00440-00097448-00097618 sufficiently clear that the first level uXtO_c9_Mdy-00441-00097619-00097744 of Department of Commerce had had a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00442-00097745-00097936 continuing role in that process and that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00443-00097937-00098086 was I think was one of their worries is uXtO_c9_Mdy-00444-00098087-00098341 there a link can do we do we have a you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00445-00098342-00098542 know a way into this process because uXtO_c9_Mdy-00446-00098543-00098983 it's relatively arcane and is that what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00447-00098984-00099100 are the goals and what are the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00448-00099101-00099274 principles and they are I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00449-00099275-00099481 principles that could be really easily uXtO_c9_Mdy-00450-00099482-00099691 explained and sold in a political uXtO_c9_Mdy-00451-00099692-00099808 process they're about openness they're uXtO_c9_Mdy-00452-00099809-00099952 about transparency that about uXtO_c9_Mdy-00453-00099953-00100144 accountability responsibility so I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00454-00100145-00100363 in the end it was a little bit of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00455-00100364-00100519 explaining and not a hat but not a hard uXtO_c9_Mdy-00456-00100520-00100762 sell it may take away I'm getting what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00457-00100763-00101119 I'm hearing you say is while I can may uXtO_c9_Mdy-00458-00101120-00101466 have advanced and the concept of an AOC uXtO_c9_Mdy-00459-00101467-00101689 commerce certainly wasn't resistant I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00460-00101690-00101881 mean they were they were receptive to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00461-00101882-00102148 the idea and actually collaborated in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00462-00102149-00102292 moving it forward well it was that a 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relationship have none of these things uXtO_c9_Mdy-00477-00105044-00105256 that were there before and neither did uXtO_c9_Mdy-00478-00105257-00105483 we but it was it was so in other words uXtO_c9_Mdy-00479-00105484-00105673 it wasn't a commerce moving out of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00480-00105674-00105898 roll where did these things and creating uXtO_c9_Mdy-00481-00105899-00106045 a structure with a community did them uXtO_c9_Mdy-00482-00106046-00106231 and that was that was the psychological uXtO_c9_Mdy-00483-00106232-00106506 and political and important uXtO_c9_Mdy-00484-00106507-00106746 shift when you think back about your uXtO_c9_Mdy-00485-00106747-00107033 tenure as chair you've already said that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00486-00107034-00107301 that the AOC this transition from the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00487-00107302-00107603 JPA to the succeeding AOC was a major uXtO_c9_Mdy-00488-00107604-00107952 point in terms of defining the USGS uXtO_c9_Mdy-00489-00107953-00108129 relationship with ICANN yes 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come up with a process uXtO_c9_Mdy-00504-00111208-00111549 for new gTLDs right the first one was we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00505-00111550-00111921 added seven and in a second round there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00506-00111922-00112083 was the idea of these sponsored if there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00507-00112083-00112235 could be a community that had its own in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00508-00112236-00112436 particular TLD they their community uXtO_c9_Mdy-00509-00112438-00112578 could sponsor so they called sponsored uXtO_c9_Mdy-00510-00112579-00112845 TL DS and the xxx one I think came out uXtO_c9_Mdy-00511-00112846-00113082 of that where there was a people thought uXtO_c9_Mdy-00512-00113083-00113370 the adult content industry could be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00513-00113371-00113616 defined and could have a place on the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00514-00113617-00114014 internet for adult content now uXtO_c9_Mdy-00515-00114015-00114267 pornography is legal in many countries uXtO_c9_Mdy-00516-00114268-00114584 but it still created a huge amount of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00517-00114585-00114753 excitement from people who are opposed uXtO_c9_Mdy-00518-00114754-00115230 to adult content and so there are some uXtO_c9_Mdy-00519-00115231-00115449 strong obvious in this country and in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00520-00115450-00115638 the United States and they put a lot of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00521-00115639-00115806 pressure on their congressmen and their uXtO_c9_Mdy-00522-00115807-00115989 thing to try and go back down that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00523-00115990-00116148 control route that we talked about and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00524-00116149-00116292 put pressure on the Department of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00525-00116293-00116478 Commerce to put pressure on I can to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00526-00116479-00116759 block it to block it and I have to say I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00527-00116760-00116964 was did that pressure of take well I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00528-00116965-00117198 wasn't I was never as a board member uXtO_c9_Mdy-00529-00117199-00117461 through that process and as a Engineers uXtO_c9_Mdy-00530-00117463-00117699 chair I was never aware of any prices uXtO_c9_Mdy-00531-00117700-00117957 they've been accusations by by people uXtO_c9_Mdy-00532-00117958-00118133 and you know there was a quite a major uXtO_c9_Mdy-00533-00118134-00118326 case that the case went before a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00534-00118327-00118559 tribunal eventually found that that I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00535-00118560-00118818 can should have granted in the first uXtO_c9_Mdy-00536-00118819-00118941 place and send it back for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00537-00118942-00119159 reconsideration and the board did grant uXtO_c9_Mdy-00538-00119160-00119496 it and so I know as a result of that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00539-00119497-00119691 that there were allegations made that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00540-00119692-00119858 there was pressure put on individual uXtO_c9_Mdy-00541-00119859-00120209 they say I I'm unaware of een okay and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00542-00120210-00120335 to me it was always a relatively uXtO_c9_Mdy-00543-00120336-00120509 straightforward have them fairest uXtO_c9_Mdy-00544-00120510-00120648 there's applicant discern hasn't met the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00545-00120649-00120794 conditions and I was one of a minority uXtO_c9_Mdy-00546-00120795-00121004 on the board who thought that the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00547-00121005-00121146 applicant had me at the conditions and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00548-00121147-00121685 was ready to let them go so the the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00549-00121686-00121874 issue for us was that we had we had a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00550-00121875-00122099 meeting just before the final vote to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00551-00122100-00122339 actually admit xxx at the San Francisco uXtO_c9_Mdy-00552-00122340-00122612 meeting and we we had a visit from the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00553-00122613-00122729 assistant secretary of the department uXtO_c9_Mdy-00554-00122730-00122987 comments Larry Strickling with whom we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00555-00122988-00123171 have a very good relationship and he uXtO_c9_Mdy-00556-00123172-00123383 wanted to talk to I talked to the senior uXtO_c9_Mdy-00557-00123384-00123587 leadership about about this decision uXtO_c9_Mdy-00558-00123588-00123866 that was coming out and so we convene a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00559-00123867-00124112 meeting than that that morning I from uXtO_c9_Mdy-00560-00124113-00124724 memory it was my vice chair the CEO and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00561-00124725-00125022 legal counsel met with Larry Strickling uXtO_c9_Mdy-00562-00125023-00125375 and I don't want to characterize that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00563-00125376-00125608 that is other than a discussion uXtO_c9_Mdy-00564-00125609-00125810 certainly the Department of Commerce uXtO_c9_Mdy-00565-00125811-00126132 didn't say that we should do anything or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00566-00126133-00126338 not do anything there was some questions uXtO_c9_Mdy-00567-00126339-00126582 asked about about our processes and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00568-00126583-00126791 whether we'd thought through well what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00569-00126792-00127028 might happen with the consequences of a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00570-00127029-00127253 decision going either way and we said uXtO_c9_Mdy-00571-00127254-00127376 that we had and the meeting came to an uXtO_c9_Mdy-00572-00127377-00127601 end so but was the mere presence of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00573-00127602-00127925 assistant secretary in itself it was his uXtO_c9_Mdy-00574-00127926-00128172 mere presence and saying proceed with uXtO_c9_Mdy-00575-00128173-00128444 caution on this was that in itself a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00576-00128445-00128914 form of light pressure or interest or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00577-00128915-00129266 was it meant to influence it might have uXtO_c9_Mdy-00578-00129267-00129543 been but it was it was a part of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00579-00129544-00129803 many many submissions that we were uXtO_c9_Mdy-00580-00129804-00129981 receiving if you like it was preps the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00581-00129982-00130449 last one and it was not everybody would uXtO_c9_Mdy-00582-00130450-00130727 have had quite that access to the key uXtO_c9_Mdy-00583-00130728-00130964 decision-makers it wasn't to the whole uXtO_c9_Mdy-00584-00130965-00131436 board so but then we have a very we had uXtO_c9_Mdy-00585-00131437-00131603 very long and healthy working uXtO_c9_Mdy-00586-00131604-00131726 relationship with the Department of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00587-00131727-00131939 Commerce so it was it was not unusual to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00588-00131940-00132350 have you know a special you know more uXtO_c9_Mdy-00589-00132351-00132452 special meeting with their uXtO_c9_Mdy-00590-00132453-00132602 representatives say than say another uXtO_c9_Mdy-00591-00132603-00132744 government but but it was it was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00592-00132745-00132928 different would have been harder for the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00593-00132929-00133125 for another government to have uXtO_c9_Mdy-00594-00133126-00133292 to have had that meeting at that time uXtO_c9_Mdy-00595-00133293-00133754 throughout the process of ICANN's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00596-00133755-00134199 genesis it's it's it's alteration the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00597-00134200-00134430 maturation of ICANN is often mentioned uXtO_c9_Mdy-00598-00134431-00134697 in relationships specifically to the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00599-00134698-00135207 IANA transition the US government uXtO_c9_Mdy-00600-00135208-00135378 testified on the hill and said uXtO_c9_Mdy-00601-00135379-00135609 repeatedly you know we waited until I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00602-00135610-00135876 can was mature well we wanted it to be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00603-00135877-00136056 mature enough it was a maturation uXtO_c9_Mdy-00604-00136057-00136383 process I'm wondering what that sort of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00605-00136384-00136698 verbage uttered by the do see the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00606-00136699-00136971 Department of Commerce meant to the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00607-00136972-00137187 hierarchy of I came was there a sense in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00608-00137188-00137553 ICANN of resentment that they're saying uXtO_c9_Mdy-00609-00137554-00137769 that we're already mature or was there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00610-00137770-00137892 an acknowledgment yeah we've got a ways uXtO_c9_Mdy-00611-00137893-00138081 to go well you have to understand I I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00612-00138082-00138306 was off the board by the time that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00613-00138307-00138495 actually happened but their daily point uXtO_c9_Mdy-00614-00138496-00138696 I mean it was still an issue during your uXtO_c9_Mdy-00615-00138697-00139053 tenure yeah maturation right yes I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00616-00139054-00139290 the most important signal that I can uXtO_c9_Mdy-00617-00139291-00139467 recall her that I certainly encouraged uXtO_c9_Mdy-00618-00139468-00139734 was that after the signing of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00619-00139735-00139944 affirmation of commitments we no longer uXtO_c9_Mdy-00620-00139945-00140091 heard anyone talk about the I can't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00621-00140092-00140406 experiment for a long time all through uXtO_c9_Mdy-00622-00140407-00140553 those early years there was the I can uXtO_c9_Mdy-00623-00140554-00140706 experiment interest rate it's the first uXtO_c9_Mdy-00624-00140707-00140967 global multi-stakeholder body it's the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00625-00140968-00141141 first body ever of its kind to take uXtO_c9_Mdy-00626-00141142-00141363 control and manage and coordinate this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00627-00141364-00141474 incredibly what turned out to be the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00628-00141475-00141606 most you know the operating system for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00629-00141607-00141801 the planet it's never been done before uXtO_c9_Mdy-00630-00141802-00142053 and it was always regarded with some uXtO_c9_Mdy-00631-00142054-00142218 concern it's the only place where uXtO_c9_Mdy-00632-00142219-00142380 governments don't have a dominant role uXtO_c9_Mdy-00633-00142381-00142599 they have an equal role in providing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00634-00142600-00142785 input to the policies it's not uXtO_c9_Mdy-00635-00142786-00143034 controlled by trademark owners or uXtO_c9_Mdy-00636-00143035-00143292 business constituency you see so the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00637-00143293-00143460 genius of ICANN was creating the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00638-00143461-00143655 structure that took all these forces uXtO_c9_Mdy-00639-00143656-00143934 many of them great disparities of power uXtO_c9_Mdy-00640-00143935-00144066 governments have a great deal more power uXtO_c9_Mdy-00641-00144067-00144327 than a ccTLD operator or great deal more uXtO_c9_Mdy-00642-00144328-00144528 power than a single trademark owner or a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00643-00144529-00144705 woman who's being stalked and wants uXtO_c9_Mdy-00644-00144706-00144930 protection etc so there's a huge variety uXtO_c9_Mdy-00645-00144931-00145218 of issues and what I think we've done uXtO_c9_Mdy-00646-00145219-00145407 well at ICANN it can always be improved uXtO_c9_Mdy-00647-00145408-00145575 as we've got the power structure right uXtO_c9_Mdy-00648-00145576-00145941 so those forces are held in a reasonably uXtO_c9_Mdy-00649-00145942-00146169 useful way to produce useful results uXtO_c9_Mdy-00650-00146170-00146373 clearly the the IANA stewardship uXtO_c9_Mdy-00651-00146374-00146445 transition uXtO_c9_Mdy-00652-00146446-00146727 happened after you left the board but uXtO_c9_Mdy-00653-00146728-00146826 you're still a member of the ICANN uXtO_c9_Mdy-00654-00146827-00147210 community how would you define the most uXtO_c9_Mdy-00655-00147211-00147530 challenging elements of that transition uXtO_c9_Mdy-00656-00147531-00147741 well there's a number of aspects the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00657-00147742-00148167 first thing was again this concept of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00658-00148168-00148332 accountability and responsibility which uXtO_c9_Mdy-00659-00148333-00148518 we embedded and the most important of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00660-00148519-00148802 the refers of the reviews under the AOC uXtO_c9_Mdy-00661-00148803-00149091 that they had to be whoever was running uXtO_c9_Mdy-00662-00149092-00149367 this thing or managing coordinating you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00663-00149368-00149544 know we use different verbs was ever was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00664-00149545-00149730 performing these functions had to have uXtO_c9_Mdy-00665-00149731-00149946 the trust of the community they had to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00666-00149947-00150057 be accountable they had to have uXtO_c9_Mdy-00667-00150058-00150228 transparency where transparency as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00668-00150229-00150405 needed and they had to be methods of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00669-00150406-00150633 redress for people who'd been or thought uXtO_c9_Mdy-00670-00150634-00150801 they'd been you know damaged in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00671-00150802-00151026 process so it was another exercise that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00672-00151027-00151125 we started with the president of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00673-00151126-00151299 strategy committee it was the result of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00674-00151300-00151527 the accountability and review teams by uXtO_c9_Mdy-00675-00151528-00151653 which time they'd been two of these uXtO_c9_Mdy-00676-00151654-00151818 going through and saying well how as I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00677-00151819-00151887 can uXtO_c9_Mdy-00678-00151888-00152046 accountable and to whom is its account uXtO_c9_Mdy-00679-00152047-00152256 accountable so there was a sense that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00680-00152257-00152511 this was probably the last chance to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00681-00152512-00152919 really focus once the transition has uXtO_c9_Mdy-00682-00152920-00153114 occurred people thought it would got to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00683-00153115-00153417 be much harder to shift views at ICANN uXtO_c9_Mdy-00684-00153418-00153594 about accountability I don't agree with uXtO_c9_Mdy-00685-00153595-00153777 it I don't agree with some of the black uXtO_c9_Mdy-00686-00153778-00154008 and white conversations that we know uXtO_c9_Mdy-00687-00154009-00154152 this is the only chance we'll ever have uXtO_c9_Mdy-00688-00154153-00154356 to improve I can't I think was a major uXtO_c9_Mdy-00689-00154357-00154545 chance and people were right to take uXtO_c9_Mdy-00690-00154546-00154710 advantage of it but I can we'll continue uXtO_c9_Mdy-00691-00154711-00154884 to improve there are continuing to be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00692-00154885-00155076 accountability mechanisms and all these uXtO_c9_Mdy-00693-00155077-00155238 things will I think keep growing uXtO_c9_Mdy-00694-00155239-00155478 so getting the accountability and the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00695-00155479-00155724 transparency of process and redress for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00696-00155725-00155913 grievances etc getting those right was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00697-00155914-00156195 important and then proving that they uXtO_c9_Mdy-00698-00156196-00156351 could handle the technical structure and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00699-00156352-00156579 then having an escape route if something uXtO_c9_Mdy-00700-00156580-00156984 if all of this work doesn't work what's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00701-00156985-00157179 Plan B and I think those were the issues uXtO_c9_Mdy-00702-00157180-00157341 that the community grappled with and I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00703-00157342-00157464 think in the end came up quite good uXtO_c9_Mdy-00704-00157465-00157632 solutions let me ask you this it was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00705-00157633-00157880 it's it's been stated many times that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00706-00157881-00158202 that transition fully to the private uXtO_c9_Mdy-00707-00158203-00158565 sector was envisioned to occur within a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00708-00158566-00158814 couple of years yes took much longer uXtO_c9_Mdy-00709-00158815-00158889 than that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00710-00158890-00159477 yes why well partly because it got every uXtO_c9_Mdy-00711-00159478-00159699 year it got bigger every year the the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00712-00159700-00159780 internet was just uXtO_c9_Mdy-00713-00159781-00160095 an enormous speed I think when when we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00714-00160096-00160278 started this idea you know I was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00715-00160279-00160500 involved from 1998 onwards there were uXtO_c9_Mdy-00716-00160501-00160713 very many fewer people on the internet uXtO_c9_Mdy-00717-00160714-00161094 it was not so what was happening as I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00718-00161095-00161262 came was growing and trying to become uXtO_c9_Mdy-00719-00161263-00161436 the body to manage these things the size uXtO_c9_Mdy-00720-00161437-00161607 of the job was getting exponentially uXtO_c9_Mdy-00721-00161608-00161904 bigger every day so that's one thing and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00722-00161905-00162024 I was like you're seeing almost the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00723-00162025-00162252 goals were being moved I think there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00724-00162253-00162405 were the same girls manage these things uXtO_c9_Mdy-00725-00162406-00162612 get them right do them but the the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00726-00162613-00162759 number of people and the players and the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00727-00162760-00163095 sky was it was going out the the the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00728-00163096-00163287 targets were the same but the there was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00729-00163288-00163428 just more of it so that I think that's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00730-00163429-00163743 one thing the other thing was and you uXtO_c9_Mdy-00731-00163744-00163911 you get different views about this that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00732-00163912-00164055 people who had vested interests in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00733-00164056-00164358 status quo and change is always uXtO_c9_Mdy-00734-00164359-00164712 difficult there's there's people with an uXtO_c9_Mdy-00735-00164713-00164847 interest who are fighting to keep it but uXtO_c9_Mdy-00736-00164848-00165000 there's also the inertia of people who uXtO_c9_Mdy-00737-00165001-00165141 don't really understand and don't care uXtO_c9_Mdy-00738-00165142-00165474 and you have to move then there's there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00739-00165475-00165717 was no real opposition to it it was just uXtO_c9_Mdy-00740-00165718-00166059 getting it getting it right there was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00741-00166060-00166326 opposition to it on the hill even in its uXtO_c9_Mdy-00742-00166327-00166662 final days I mean sorry when you say uXtO_c9_Mdy-00743-00166663-00166827 obviously can do it I I mean sort of I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00744-00166828-00166938 can the concept ah uXtO_c9_Mdy-00745-00166939-00167166 rather than forgive me day as opposed to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00746-00167167-00167373 the transition itself yes but by uXtO_c9_Mdy-00747-00167374-00167685 extension that was at play with the IANA uXtO_c9_Mdy-00748-00167686-00167889 stewardship transition yeah and it came uXtO_c9_Mdy-00749-00167890-00168150 out in the testimony and the verbage on uXtO_c9_Mdy-00750-00168151-00168429 Capitol Hill what was your reaction at uXtO_c9_Mdy-00751-00168430-00168912 that point I think it's the same well uXtO_c9_Mdy-00752-00168913-00169044 officially was a lot of misunderstanding uXtO_c9_Mdy-00753-00169045-00169227 about about what it was all about and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00754-00169228-00169368 there were a number of politicians who uXtO_c9_Mdy-00755-00169369-00169533 being politicians tried to take uXtO_c9_Mdy-00756-00169534-00169743 advantage for political purposes and in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00757-00169744-00169881 the course of that said some things that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00758-00169882-00170070 really suited perhaps their audience uXtO_c9_Mdy-00759-00170071-00170289 rather than had much grounding in sort uXtO_c9_Mdy-00760-00170290-00170460 of technical internet sort of structures uXtO_c9_Mdy-00761-00170461-00170796 or relationships so you it's good to put uXtO_c9_Mdy-00762-00170797-00171183 some of that aside I think but other uXtO_c9_Mdy-00763-00171184-00171381 than that there was a misunderstanding I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00764-00171382-00171513 think a general misunderstanding that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00765-00171514-00171726 somehow the US government had some uXtO_c9_Mdy-00766-00171727-00171903 really powerful control over the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00767-00171904-00172212 Internet and and it doesn't it didn't if uXtO_c9_Mdy-00768-00172213-00172329 it had the internet would have grown uXtO_c9_Mdy-00769-00172330-00172428 very differently it would have grown uXtO_c9_Mdy-00770-00172429-00172638 somewhere else because the reason why uXtO_c9_Mdy-00771-00172639-00172776 it's growing so well is because it uXtO_c9_Mdy-00772-00172777-00172962 hasn't had that kind of central top-down uXtO_c9_Mdy-00773-00172963-00173166 control the ability to innovate uXtO_c9_Mdy-00774-00173167-00173349 age and for people to add things without uXtO_c9_Mdy-00775-00173350-00173550 permission permission less innovation uXtO_c9_Mdy-00776-00173551-00173949 has been why it's been successful but uXtO_c9_Mdy-00777-00173950-00174111 there was still some sense from people uXtO_c9_Mdy-00778-00174112-00174357 who didn't understand that it must be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00779-00174358-00174510 like another company or another uXtO_c9_Mdy-00780-00174511-00174678 technology where somebody owns it and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00781-00174679-00175080 can control it so I think a lot of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00782-00175081-00175236 exercise was just getting through to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00783-00175237-00175347 that that look what we're talking about uXtO_c9_Mdy-00784-00175348-00175734 is the last of a relatively animal uXtO_c9_Mdy-00785-00175735-00175968 technical function it's important and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00786-00175969-00176151 somebody has to do it but look these uXtO_c9_Mdy-00787-00176152-00176295 guys have actually been doing it for the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00788-00176296-00176460 last 15 years have done it without uXtO_c9_Mdy-00789-00176461-00176748 without a problem why don't we leave uXtO_c9_Mdy-00790-00176749-00176898 them sort of carry on doing it and I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00791-00176899-00177207 think once people got over that it was a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00792-00177208-00177605 lot easier I'm wondering as a citizen as uXtO_c9_Mdy-00793-00177606-00177900 not a US citizen but as a citizen of New uXtO_c9_Mdy-00794-00177901-00178278 Zealand did that give you a lens that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00795-00178279-00178566 was beneficial obviously it was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00796-00178567-00178764 different but was it perhaps beneficial uXtO_c9_Mdy-00797-00178765-00179061 or maybe irrelevant in viewing ICANN's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00798-00179062-00179352 relationship with US government I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00799-00179353-00179580 it probably did I think first of all New uXtO_c9_Mdy-00800-00179581-00179718 Zealanders I have a very robust view uXtO_c9_Mdy-00801-00179719-00179856 about the government's very clear in New uXtO_c9_Mdy-00802-00179857-00179967 Zealand - New Zealanders that the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00803-00179968-00180276 government works for New Zealanders we uXtO_c9_Mdy-00804-00180277-00180483 and we tend to have a view that their uXtO_c9_Mdy-00805-00180484-00180708 government is best which governs least uXtO_c9_Mdy-00806-00180709-00180855 we want the government to do things that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00807-00180856-00181113 we specify so we come I think with a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00808-00181114-00181308 relatively were it's a robust view - to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00809-00181309-00181467 government and keeping government and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00810-00181468-00181743 cheque but using governments where it's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00811-00181744-00182163 helpful and so we tend to approach this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00812-00182164-00182403 problem in the same kind of a way I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00813-00182404-00182664 think the other thing was the u.s. - uXtO_c9_Mdy-00814-00182665-00182916 people living in the u.s. the u.s. is so uXtO_c9_Mdy-00815-00182917-00183171 huge there's so much going on there's a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00816-00183172-00183402 tendency or there's no need to actually uXtO_c9_Mdy-00817-00183403-00183651 look outside the United States to find uXtO_c9_Mdy-00818-00183652-00183867 out how other people are solving often uXtO_c9_Mdy-00819-00183868-00184089 similar problems so I think there was a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00820-00184090-00184278 little bit of being able to come in from uXtO_c9_Mdy-00821-00184279-00184431 the outside slightly and say look just uXtO_c9_Mdy-00822-00184432-00184635 because this has grown up this way just uXtO_c9_Mdy-00823-00184636-00184824 because it's being done that way doesn't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00824-00184825-00184965 mean say we have to keep doing it and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00825-00184966-00185301 let's try this new global uXtO_c9_Mdy-00826-00185302-00185571 multi-stakeholder body instead instead uXtO_c9_Mdy-00827-00185572-00185751 of a government department controlling a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00828-00185752-00185937 corporation let's try and open it up uXtO_c9_Mdy-00829-00185938-00186234 yeah - to the world and if it doesn't uXtO_c9_Mdy-00830-00186235-00186363 work we can do something else and I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00831-00186364-00186450 think that's the other thing about New uXtO_c9_Mdy-00832-00186451-00186576 Zealand being so small uXtO_c9_Mdy-00833-00186577-00186738 we've always been ready to try things uXtO_c9_Mdy-00834-00186739-00186930 because if it doesn't work easier to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00835-00186931-00187206 pivot it's easy to pivot Peter is there uXtO_c9_Mdy-00836-00187207-00187416 anything else that we've not touched on uXtO_c9_Mdy-00837-00187417-00187566 that you think is particularly relevant uXtO_c9_Mdy-00838-00187567-00187839 when we discuss ICANN's historic uXtO_c9_Mdy-00839-00187840-00188054 relationship with the US government I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00840-00188055-00188325 think it's probably good to close off on uXtO_c9_Mdy-00841-00188326-00188523 the point that all of the accountability uXtO_c9_Mdy-00842-00188524-00188832 and trans transparency kind of issues uXtO_c9_Mdy-00843-00188833-00189126 that were in the AOC have survived and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00844-00189127-00189447 have migrated now into the bylaws and so uXtO_c9_Mdy-00845-00189448-00189711 what's happened because there's an uXtO_c9_Mdy-00846-00189712-00189960 enormous issue this might be the last uXtO_c9_Mdy-00847-00189961-00190245 chance let's get it right I was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00848-00190246-00190473 criticized because I saw the AOC as a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00849-00190474-00190812 temporary device for getting to this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00850-00190813-00191082 point and said so at a meeting of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00851-00191083-00191277 European Parliament at some stage uXtO_c9_Mdy-00852-00191278-00191529 committee of the European Parliament and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00853-00191530-00191700 people thought does that mean that the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00854-00191701-00191943 those principles are temporary in the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00855-00191944-00192159 aunt no those principles have survived uXtO_c9_Mdy-00856-00192160-00192363 and they've migrated into the bylaws and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00857-00192364-00192564 so they those have got stronger what uXtO_c9_Mdy-00858-00192565-00192702 we've done away with is the vehicle that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00859-00192703-00192906 we using to carry them there so I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00860-00192907-00193050 that's very important that we've used uXtO_c9_Mdy-00861-00193051-00193197 this process you're saying the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00862-00193198-00193335 embodiment of those in the bylaws uXtO_c9_Mdy-00863-00193336-00193557 actually acts as more reinforcement than uXtO_c9_Mdy-00864-00193558-00193746 standalone in the LC they're now in a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00865-00193747-00193998 much stronger place than the AF the AIC uXtO_c9_Mdy-00866-00193999-00194166 was to a contract now they're in the in uXtO_c9_Mdy-00867-00194167-00194370 the DNA of ICANN so it's going to be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00868-00194371-00194514 much harder to and and they should uXtO_c9_Mdy-00869-00194515-00194634 that's where they should be these uXtO_c9_Mdy-00870-00194635-00194796 obligations of accountability and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00871-00194797-00195018 transparency and again they can be uXtO_c9_Mdy-00872-00195019-00195168 changed by the community so I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00873-00195169-00195285 that's important and I think the other uXtO_c9_Mdy-00874-00195286-00195486 thing that's important is to say thank uXtO_c9_Mdy-00875-00195487-00195951 you to to Larry Strickling and Fiona uXtO_c9_Mdy-00876-00195952-00196134 Alexander I haven't mentioned Fiona but uXtO_c9_Mdy-00877-00196135-00196290 she's been there through most that's uXtO_c9_Mdy-00878-00196291-00196413 providing an enormous amount of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00879-00196414-00196665 cohesiveness to that to all of this uXtO_c9_Mdy-00880-00196666-00196851 process Larry Strickling being the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00881-00196852-00197004 assistant secretary at Department of uXtO_c9_Mdy-00882-00197005-00197163 Commerce and Fiona being one of the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00883-00197164-00197328 people on his staff who worked with uXtO_c9_Mdy-00884-00197329-00197712 ICANN exactly and I think there's a uXtO_c9_Mdy-00885-00197713-00197886 whole of reasons why they decided that uXtO_c9_Mdy-00886-00197887-00198120 it was appropriate to do the last the uXtO_c9_Mdy-00887-00198121-00198360 last step of this process and we've uXtO_c9_Mdy-00888-00198361-00198630 talked through it having decided that I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00889-00198631-00198774 can was mature enough and was uXtO_c9_Mdy-00890-00198775-00198939 internationally acceptable enough and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00891-00198940-00199110 was internationally strong enough to uXtO_c9_Mdy-00892-00199111-00199437 handle that final transition so I think uXtO_c9_Mdy-00893-00199438-00199719 they deserve a lot of credit for for uXtO_c9_Mdy-00894-00199720-00199914 their earlier earlier administration uXtO_c9_Mdy-00895-00199915-00200139 had had said basically this won't ever uXtO_c9_Mdy-00896-00200140-00200301 happen you know or given the impression uXtO_c9_Mdy-00897-00200302-00200544 that that was the that was the view and uXtO_c9_Mdy-00898-00200545-00200694 a lot of people said you know the US uXtO_c9_Mdy-00899-00200695-00200934 will never give up its particular uXtO_c9_Mdy-00900-00200935-00201189 relationship to that I on a file and so uXtO_c9_Mdy-00901-00201190-00201404 I think they need the the community I uXtO_c9_Mdy-00902-00201405-00201687 use them a vote of thanks and an uXtO_c9_Mdy-00903-00201688-00201849 acknowledgement that there were other uXtO_c9_Mdy-00904-00201850-00202050 options but I think they chose the right uXtO_c9_Mdy-00905-00202051-00202263 one and then they stood by it and they 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yes of my course of all ufYLhgfoqC8-00098-00075253-00077871 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00099-00077872-00078282 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00101-00086895-00087087 far visit dude was saying ufYLhgfoqC8-00102-00087088-00087262 how many times when i visited papano oh ufYLhgfoqC8-00103-00087263-00087431 it means mankind yes ufYLhgfoqC8-00104-00087432-00087815 a lot of messages ufYLhgfoqC8-00105-00087816-00087999 online ufYLhgfoqC8-00106-00088000-00088238 there are so many times in my car we ufYLhgfoqC8-00107-00088239-00088447 didn't take any pictures well yeah wow ufYLhgfoqC8-00108-00088448-00088679 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00109-00088680-00088815 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00111-00093848-00094294 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00112-00094295-00094582 good morning to you uh nana ufYLhgfoqC8-00113-00094583-00094743 these are the kind of people we need in ufYLhgfoqC8-00114-00094744-00094855 ghana ufYLhgfoqC8-00115-00094856-00095038 tell him the lord will bless him and ufYLhgfoqC8-00116-00095039-00095167 bless him more ufYLhgfoqC8-00117-00095168-00095623 in japan somewhere senator ufYLhgfoqC8-00118-00095624-00095862 to know that he's a great man from our ufYLhgfoqC8-00119-00095863-00096087 hometown ufYLhgfoqC8-00120-00096088-00096318 and a very kind and respectful man as ufYLhgfoqC8-00121-00096319-00096406 well ufYLhgfoqC8-00122-00096407-00096615 in fact i wish i could meet him one day ufYLhgfoqC8-00123-00096616-00096806 at a google because i need business ufYLhgfoqC8-00124-00096807-00097094 ideas ufYLhgfoqC8-00125-00097095-00097367 i say good work a cryoform these are the ufYLhgfoqC8-00126-00097368-00097543 kind of segments you should bring on ufYLhgfoqC8-00127-00097544-00097831 radio for people to listen and learn ufYLhgfoqC8-00128-00097832-00098991 music ufYLhgfoqC8-00129-00098992-00099111 well done ufYLhgfoqC8-00130-00099112-00099238 what you are doing is beyond ufYLhgfoqC8-00131-00099239-00099447 imaginations continue to do your ufYLhgfoqC8-00132-00099448-00099679 charitable week god bless you so much ufYLhgfoqC8-00133-00099680-00100015 faizal osman i say we love you now love ufYLhgfoqC8-00134-00100016-00100174 is it not love ufYLhgfoqC8-00135-00100175-00100503 and i love you father my boys saying ufYLhgfoqC8-00136-00100504-00100759 uh call it or say god bless you nana i ufYLhgfoqC8-00137-00100760-00101015 have followed the philanthropic things ufYLhgfoqC8-00138-00101016-00101318 he's doing in and around god bless him ufYLhgfoqC8-00139-00101319-00101623 uh selem or say chairman okay from pong ufYLhgfoqC8-00140-00101624-00101871 is a great leader he never gives up he's ufYLhgfoqC8-00141-00101872-00102223 a he's a people buddha god bless him ufYLhgfoqC8-00142-00102224-00102463 rascal or say sorry boss man now it's a ufYLhgfoqC8-00143-00102464-00102734 radio station indiano uh i said the man ufYLhgfoqC8-00144-00102735-00102918 is a very good man and very humble ufYLhgfoqC8-00145-00102919-00103358 watching you from uh telford uk ufYLhgfoqC8-00146-00103359-00103639 and appenting an idea ufYLhgfoqC8-00147-00103640-00105031 why my brutal ufYLhgfoqC8-00148-00105032-00105551 god bless you uh messages ufYLhgfoqC8-00149-00105552-00105807 paul the youth of aguego are so proud of ufYLhgfoqC8-00150-00105808-00105886 you ufYLhgfoqC8-00151-00105888-00106215 uh prince perfect i'll say champion ufYLhgfoqC8-00152-00106216-00106558 and i'm poster george i say ask him uh ufYLhgfoqC8-00153-00106559-00106783 his relationship between the relation ufYLhgfoqC8-00154-00106783-00107039 between him and reverend or before now ufYLhgfoqC8-00155-00107040-00107278 i don't know ufYLhgfoqC8-00156-00107279-00107439 no problem ufYLhgfoqC8-00157-00107440-00107639 and i am rushing off ufYLhgfoqC8-00158-00107640-00108254 i mean if you want to ask about it ufYLhgfoqC8-00159-00108255-00108399 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00160-00108400-00108647 i had a lot of respect for him from the ufYLhgfoqC8-00161-00108648-00108919 start but he said it's i respect him ufYLhgfoqC8-00162-00108920-00109086 but i wouldn't want to even ask at the ufYLhgfoqC8-00163-00109088-00109247 end of the day because he didn't need a ufYLhgfoqC8-00165-00114352-00114639 and the reason why i mean corporatey ufYLhgfoqC8-00166-00114640-00114847 i know i ufYLhgfoqC8-00167-00114848-00115375 said ufYLhgfoqC8-00168-00115376-00116295 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00169-00116296-00116527 you're very kind man ufYLhgfoqC8-00170-00116528-00116758 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00171-00116759-00117783 your president ufYLhgfoqC8-00172-00117783-00117919 apart from ufYLhgfoqC8-00173-00117920-00118590 your president ufYLhgfoqC8-00174-00118591-00118871 because ufYLhgfoqC8-00175-00118872-00119063 you could tell say ufYLhgfoqC8-00176-00119064-00121599 something ufYLhgfoqC8-00177-00121600-00121839 i have to continue doing something to ufYLhgfoqC8-00178-00121840-00122007 make sure you send sending legacy ufYLhgfoqC8-00179-00122008-00122254 everything better now so i incorporated ufYLhgfoqC8-00180-00122255-00122702 smartphone porn foundation ufYLhgfoqC8-00181-00122703-00122975 it will all fall under the smartphone ufYLhgfoqC8-00182-00122976-00123086 foundation ufYLhgfoqC8-00184-00127672-00127823 i've been doing this ufYLhgfoqC8-00185-00127824-00128071 charity near my we make kaipa for nine ufYLhgfoqC8-00186-00128072-00128302 years now honestly ufYLhgfoqC8-00187-00128303-00128454 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00188-00128455-00128766 i think that there four years ago ufYLhgfoqC8-00189-00128767-00128883 but about ufYLhgfoqC8-00190-00128883-00129319 nine this is a variety of neymar ufYLhgfoqC8-00191-00129320-00129558 conferences ufYLhgfoqC8-00192-00129559-00129878 um baby baby ufYLhgfoqC8-00193-00129879-00130014 children's home ufYLhgfoqC8-00194-00130015-00130207 and some orphanage rooms ufYLhgfoqC8-00195-00130208-00132943 i mean hospitals ufYLhgfoqC8-00196-00132944-00134431 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00197-00134432-00135902 because ufYLhgfoqC8-00198-00135903-00136166 organization i know the solicitor for uh ufYLhgfoqC8-00199-00136167-00136319 france support ufYLhgfoqC8-00200-00136320-00136631 yes ufYLhgfoqC8-00201-00136632-00136790 i can say ufYLhgfoqC8-00202-00136791-00136878 just ufYLhgfoqC8-00203-00136879-00138198 a few more years you know and uh uh ufYLhgfoqC8-00208-00169741-00170838 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00210-00176232-00177823 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00211-00177824-00179838 uh ufYLhgfoqC8-00212-00179839-00180063 we use that opportunity to let people ufYLhgfoqC8-00213-00180064-00180135 know ufYLhgfoqC8-00214-00180136-00180454 say yes they can emerge ufYLhgfoqC8-00215-00180455-00180654 because ufYLhgfoqC8-00216-00180655-00182014 i've been praying ufYLhgfoqC8-00217-00182015-00182773 keep doing good ufYLhgfoqC8-00218-00182774-00184895 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00219-00184896-00185087 he paid four thousand five hundred ufYLhgfoqC8-00220-00185088-00185343 cities to save a 16 year old boy's life ufYLhgfoqC8-00221-00185344-00185607 at mampon government hospital last year ufYLhgfoqC8-00222-00185608-00185838 and this got people around carried ufYLhgfoqC8-00223-00185839-00186047 because according to the doctors ufYLhgfoqC8-00224-00186048-00186254 the boy would have died if they said ufYLhgfoqC8-00225-00186255-00186359 amount ufYLhgfoqC8-00226-00186360-00186566 couldn't have been raised ufYLhgfoqC8-00227-00186567-00186766 okay from porn is indeed the sort of ufYLhgfoqC8-00228-00186767-00187663 asante ufYLhgfoqC8-00229-00187664-00188765 okay ufYLhgfoqC8-00230-00188766-00191662 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00232-00195848-00196031 i wish you would be the next mp for ufYLhgfoqC8-00233-00196032-00196438 santiago ufYLhgfoqC8-00234-00196439-00196647 watching you from uk greetings to kwame ufYLhgfoqC8-00235-00196648-00196838 from point these good things ufYLhgfoqC8-00236-00196839-00197087 uh he's doing and uh fred kojo said god ufYLhgfoqC8-00237-00197088-00197214 bless you man ufYLhgfoqC8-00238-00197215-00197647 and uh uh jonathan okay ufYLhgfoqC8-00239-00197648-00197887 god bless you for the good work what's ufYLhgfoqC8-00240-00197888-00198087 your friend rebecca sina in fact this ufYLhgfoqC8-00241-00198088-00198295 year segment i don't want to miss it any ufYLhgfoqC8-00242-00198296-00198543 tuesday because all the conversations ufYLhgfoqC8-00243-00198544-00198726 that you guys uh ufYLhgfoqC8-00244-00198727-00198871 have on the show ufYLhgfoqC8-00245-00198872-00199199 change lives god bless you rebecca said ufYLhgfoqC8-00246-00199200-00199366 shaibu said greetings i'm very proud of ufYLhgfoqC8-00247-00199367-00199614 you junia your father was a very good ufYLhgfoqC8-00248-00199615-00199799 friend my name is shaibu the former ufYLhgfoqC8-00249-00199800-00200199 drama of uh a b crystal keep up the good ufYLhgfoqC8-00250-00200200-00200438 work may god continue to bless you ufYLhgfoqC8-00251-00200439-00200935 who need background um ufYLhgfoqC8-00252-00200936-00201135 i'm short of west god will bless this ufYLhgfoqC8-00253-00201136-00201431 man still hope nearby uh or say ufYLhgfoqC8-00254-00201432-00201695 uh your father was really a good friend ufYLhgfoqC8-00255-00201696-00202238 and a good person ufYLhgfoqC8-00256-00202239-00202535 i'll say wow being a philanthropist has ufYLhgfoqC8-00257-00202536-00202743 always been my heart desire god bless ufYLhgfoqC8-00258-00202744-00202902 you and increase you in all your ufYLhgfoqC8-00259-00202903-00203159 endeavors and uh comfort as you do i ufYLhgfoqC8-00260-00203160-00203438 said good morning my next mp if you like ufYLhgfoqC8-00261-00203439-00203735 it or not you go to parliament no i said ufYLhgfoqC8-00262-00203736-00203838 it ufYLhgfoqC8-00263-00203839-00204102 was a man of god ufYLhgfoqC8-00264-00204103-00204247 and uh ufYLhgfoqC8-00265-00204248-00204383 now do say god bless you chairman ufYLhgfoqC8-00266-00204384-00204599 watching you from aguas and tiachim ufYLhgfoqC8-00267-00204600-00204790 nixon the gaddu na romeo good morning ufYLhgfoqC8-00268-00204791-00204927 i'm enjoying your show now remember i ufYLhgfoqC8-00269-00204928-00205110 have discussed something with you i want ufYLhgfoqC8-00270-00205111-00207958 to help people too uh or say about us ufYLhgfoqC8-00271-00207959-00209994 um ufYLhgfoqC8-00273-00214946-00216919 [Applause] ufYLhgfoqC8-00274-00216919-00217063 uh good morning ufYLhgfoqC8-00277-00248462-00248942 [Music] ufYLhgfoqC8-00278-00248944-00249152 you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00000-00000000-00000371 hi everybody my name is Mary grey and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00001-00000372-00000617 I'm a permanent researcher at Microsoft uh_X5o7sN7Y-00002-00000618-00000853 Research over in Cambridge Kendall uh_X5o7sN7Y-00003-00000855-00001073 Square so came a popped a couple of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00004-00001074-00001295 squares and I'm also on the faculty at uh_X5o7sN7Y-00005-00001296-00001547 Indiana University in the Anthropology uh_X5o7sN7Y-00006-00001548-00001742 gender studies American Studies and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00007-00001743-00002021 media school so those are all separate uh_X5o7sN7Y-00008-00002022-00002227 departments and then a school I like to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00009-00002228-00002423 collect those affiliations you know like uh_X5o7sN7Y-00010-00002424-00002783 box tops so I have the great pleasure uh_X5o7sN7Y-00011-00002784-00003056 today to introduce to you the PhD uh_X5o7sN7Y-00012-00003057-00003281 interns who are working with Microsoft uh_X5o7sN7Y-00013-00003282-00003431 Research this summer in the New England uh_X5o7sN7Y-00014-00003432-00003818 lab and they're all pretty amazing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00015-00003819-00004124 stellar emerging scholars and I want to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00016-00004125-00004276 save their time and not necessarily uh_X5o7sN7Y-00017-00004277-00004550 repeat bio information they're going to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00018-00004551-00004813 share with you but ethio m'a Stacey uh_X5o7sN7Y-00019-00004814-00005147 Nathan Alina are here to talk with you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00020-00005148-00005372 about the work that they've done and how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00021-00005373-00005488 it connects the work they're going to do uh_X5o7sN7Y-00022-00005489-00005699 this summer I wanted to just share with uh_X5o7sN7Y-00023-00005700-00005854 you some information very briefly about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00024-00005855-00006106 our internship program because i think uh_X5o7sN7Y-00025-00006107-00006254 these emerging scholars their uh_X5o7sN7Y-00026-00006255-00006553 scholarship really represents something uh_X5o7sN7Y-00027-00006554-00006802 we i would say desperately need in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00028-00006803-00007031 academic and industry settings and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00029-00007031-00007217 that's folks who can do bridgework uh_X5o7sN7Y-00030-00007218-00007580 people who can work between industry uh_X5o7sN7Y-00031-00007581-00007802 settings university settings and remind uh_X5o7sN7Y-00032-00007803-00008020 us all about how and why we need to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00033-00008022-00008314 connect with each other each of their uh_X5o7sN7Y-00034-00008315-00008633 projects are also taking attack that is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00035-00008634-00008795 not common in media and Technology uh_X5o7sN7Y-00036-00008796-00009008 studies it's a more social critical uh_X5o7sN7Y-00037-00009009-00009242 approach so you're going to hear mostly uh_X5o7sN7Y-00038-00009243-00009481 about qualitative qualitatively driven uh_X5o7sN7Y-00039-00009482-00009713 projects so I think our group is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00040-00009714-00009881 particularly interested in showing the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00041-00009882-00010198 value of taking an approach that isn't uh_X5o7sN7Y-00042-00010199-00010592 the more familiar methodologies that we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00043-00010593-00010874 see in industry and in university uh_X5o7sN7Y-00044-00010875-00011024 settings that look at technology and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00045-00011025-00011471 media it's a 12-week program and though uh_X5o7sN7Y-00046-00011472-00011638 it's sometimes called a Summer Institute uh_X5o7sN7Y-00047-00011639-00011831 or summer internship program we do have uh_X5o7sN7Y-00048-00011832-00012013 folks who will who will apply for this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00049-00012014-00012263 so I'm I'm saying this generically is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00050-00012264-00012476 that there might be potential applicants uh_X5o7sN7Y-00051-00012477-00012667 in the room or people who could share uh_X5o7sN7Y-00052-00012668-00012910 this information with their peers but we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00053-00012911-00013121 are always looking for people who are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00054-00013122-00013307 interested in taking this more critical uh_X5o7sN7Y-00055-00013308-00013369 quality uh_X5o7sN7Y-00056-00013371-00013913 approach and we will usually post our uh_X5o7sN7Y-00057-00013913-00014096 announcements in October on our blog uh_X5o7sN7Y-00058-00014097-00014372 about the internship program we have uh_X5o7sN7Y-00059-00014372-00014582 labs all over the world and each of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00060-00014583-00015008 those labs accepts up to around 100 PhD uh_X5o7sN7Y-00061-00015009-00015350 students to do this work and it can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00062-00015351-00015500 really range in terms of what kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00063-00015501-00015716 proposals people want to pitch probably uh_X5o7sN7Y-00064-00015716-00015905 most importantly and maybe sadly uh_X5o7sN7Y-00065-00015906-00016094 Microsoft Research is pretty unique in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00066-00016094-00016355 that whatever a PhD student does it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00067-00016356-00016652 available for public consumption it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00068-00016653-00016895 not had you know hid behind a walled uh_X5o7sN7Y-00069-00016896-00017060 garden the expectation is that you're uh_X5o7sN7Y-00070-00017061-00017231 sharing it with your peers of building uh_X5o7sN7Y-00071-00017232-00017447 on a scholarly conversation so it's a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00072-00017448-00017648 pretty it's a pretty unique opportunity uh_X5o7sN7Y-00073-00017649-00017912 to be able to do some do some work that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00074-00017913-00018188 both feeds academic conversations but uh_X5o7sN7Y-00075-00018189-00018470 also might give scholars a chance to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00076-00018471-00018692 connect with product groups or other uh_X5o7sN7Y-00077-00018693-00018833 groups that could really benefit from uh_X5o7sN7Y-00078-00018834-00019112 their expertise and their insight so let uh_X5o7sN7Y-00079-00019113-00019328 me stop the promo of the microsoft uh_X5o7sN7Y-00080-00019329-00019511 research internship program that i hope uh_X5o7sN7Y-00081-00019512-00019750 many people in this room will apply or uh_X5o7sN7Y-00082-00019751-00020093 and remind you that for these lunches we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00083-00020094-00020390 will be doing a webcast of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00084-00020391-00020546 presentations that will be available on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00085-00020547-00020864 the Berkman website within a few days uh_X5o7sN7Y-00086-00020865-00021251 pretty miraculous it's magic and a part uh_X5o7sN7Y-00087-00021252-00021710 of today's conversation is you so will uh_X5o7sN7Y-00088-00021711-00021896 at one point after the presentations be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00089-00021897-00022073 able to turn to questions discussion uh_X5o7sN7Y-00090-00022074-00022514 I'll be moderating that time and i'll be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00091-00022515-00022832 looking for bringing as many of us to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00092-00022833-00022981 the table as possible so i'll just be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00093-00022982-00023204 picking folks and trying to draw out uh_X5o7sN7Y-00094-00023205-00023552 voices that may may not always be heard uh_X5o7sN7Y-00095-00023553-00023741 at the table so just be aware i'll if uh_X5o7sN7Y-00096-00023742-00023930 you have your hand up and you've spoken uh_X5o7sN7Y-00097-00023931-00024083 a couple times it might ask you to step uh_X5o7sN7Y-00098-00024084-00024434 back and let others speak will also be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00099-00024435-00024641 recording your responses so please make uh_X5o7sN7Y-00100-00024642-00024869 sure to ask your question into the mic uh_X5o7sN7Y-00101-00024870-00025187 so that we can get your question on the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00102-00025188-00025334 webcast so that people can hear it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00103-00025335-00025553 there's a back channel as well as that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00104-00025554-00025753 true is there a back channel for Berkman uh_X5o7sN7Y-00105-00025754-00026075 the for this discussion whoo hashtag uh_X5o7sN7Y-00106-00026076-00026273 Berkman for those folks who like to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00107-00026274-00026636 hashtag things so please feel free to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00108-00026637-00026755 share out what said uh_X5o7sN7Y-00109-00026756-00026992 here because it is going beyond this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00110-00026993-00027130 room so just keep that in mind when uh_X5o7sN7Y-00111-00027131-00027256 you're asking questions or making a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00112-00027257-00027457 statement so with that let me pass it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00113-00027458-00028381 over to our first speaker humor good uh_X5o7sN7Y-00114-00028382-00028812 afternoon so hello Burke maniacs Burke uh_X5o7sN7Y-00115-00028813-00029049 interns and the Cambridge and Boston uh_X5o7sN7Y-00116-00029050-00029389 community many things to the Berkman uh_X5o7sN7Y-00117-00029389-00029755 Center for agreeing to this talk to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00118-00029756-00029974 introduce myself I'm a PhD candidate in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00119-00029975-00030130 the sociology department of Columbia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00120-00030131-00030612 University and writ large my research is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00121-00030613-00030939 preoccupied with data notably the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00122-00030941-00031186 privacy ramifications of our voracious uh_X5o7sN7Y-00123-00031187-00031437 appetite for data the legal issues uh_X5o7sN7Y-00124-00031438-00031717 presented by the analogous analysis and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00125-00031718-00032176 interpretation of data and the ways that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00126-00032177-00032464 data could be employed to widen the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00127-00032464-00032902 divide of inequality and as an FYI for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00128-00032903-00033061 other computer scientists I tend to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00129-00033062-00033313 think of data as a collective singular uh_X5o7sN7Y-00130-00033314-00033802 noun so bear with me so almost uh_X5o7sN7Y-00131-00033803-00034365 everything we do generates data this was uh_X5o7sN7Y-00132-00034366-00034801 a quote by Gary wolf who is a proponent uh_X5o7sN7Y-00133-00034802-00035206 of the quantified self movement however uh_X5o7sN7Y-00134-00035207-00035455 in the book data and Goliath Gary uh_X5o7sN7Y-00135-00035456-00035674 schneur writes about the government and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00136-00035675-00035920 corporate surveillance that Americans uh_X5o7sN7Y-00137-00035921-00036112 are subjected to you in your daily lives uh_X5o7sN7Y-00138-00036113-00036409 and similarly in the black box society uh_X5o7sN7Y-00139-00036410-00036702 professor Frank flask Wally writes about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00140-00036703-00036949 data miners and data brokers who troll uh_X5o7sN7Y-00141-00036950-00037270 the internet for our data and how so uh_X5o7sN7Y-00142-00037271-00037432 much of big data is fed through uh_X5o7sN7Y-00143-00037433-00037750 algorithms secret algorithms right that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00144-00037751-00037990 determine how financial institutions and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00145-00037991-00038233 other corporations choose to interact uh_X5o7sN7Y-00146-00038234-00038626 with us but what about the data we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00147-00038627-00038952 generate from logging our own lives the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00148-00038953-00039148 quantified self movement is to believe uh_X5o7sN7Y-00149-00039149-00039385 that self-tracking or self logging as a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00150-00039386-00039613 disturbed can lead to greater self uh_X5o7sN7Y-00151-00039614-00039850 knowledge and can provide solutions for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00152-00039851-00039971 health and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00153-00039972-00040223 work productivity but should we be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00154-00040224-00040580 concerned that this small data could be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00155-00040581-00040829 co-opted in ways that are ultimately uh_X5o7sN7Y-00156-00040830-00041189 detrimental to our agency and personhood uh_X5o7sN7Y-00157-00041190-00041486 how can we allow for the autonomy and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00158-00041487-00041736 personal expression that is lifelogging uh_X5o7sN7Y-00159-00041737-00041987 while protecting against the laws of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00160-00041988-00042279 privacy and the new opportunities for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00161-00042280-00042515 discrimination for the computer uh_X5o7sN7Y-00162-00042516-00042701 scientists in the room again I would say uh_X5o7sN7Y-00163-00042702-00043035 that this problem is hard maybe not NP uh_X5o7sN7Y-00164-00043036-00043402 hard let's call it quantified self heart uh_X5o7sN7Y-00165-00043403-00043770 so today I want to talk about the ways uh_X5o7sN7Y-00166-00043771-00044045 that our data may be used against us uh_X5o7sN7Y-00167-00044046-00044423 right as Kate Crawford I recently wrote uh_X5o7sN7Y-00168-00044424-00044742 about in the Atlantic small data from a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00169-00044743-00045023 fitness tracker has been introduced into uh_X5o7sN7Y-00170-00045024-00045305 the courtroom in Canada this time the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00171-00045306-00045512 data was introduced by the plaintiff uh_X5o7sN7Y-00172-00045513-00045767 attorney as part of a personal injury uh_X5o7sN7Y-00173-00045768-00046110 case but imagine that next time it could uh_X5o7sN7Y-00174-00046111-00046373 be your insurance company asking for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00175-00046374-00046589 your fitness tracker data before they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00176-00046590-00047007 will agree to ensure you or determine uh_X5o7sN7Y-00177-00047008-00047367 how much to charge you for premiums it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00178-00047368-00047636 could also be your employer asking for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00179-00047637-00047858 the same data to determine whether they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00180-00047859-00048060 should continue to retain you as an uh_X5o7sN7Y-00181-00048061-00048821 employee so I see the quantified self uh_X5o7sN7Y-00182-00048822-00049274 movement as a manifestation right of a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00183-00049275-00049548 societal desire for certainty and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00184-00049549-00049917 accurate prediction of risk but we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00185-00049918-00050198 should not be so seduced by the shiny uh_X5o7sN7Y-00186-00050199-00050486 apple of knowledge that we neglect to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00187-00050487-00050807 inquire as to the cause I ask you to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00188-00050808-00051098 consider that the quantified self may uh_X5o7sN7Y-00189-00051099-00051419 have a dual meaning yes it can refer to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00190-00051420-00051632 the self knowledge that derives from uh_X5o7sN7Y-00191-00051633-00051968 tracking our most intimate and my new to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00192-00051969-00052421 bio functions and processes but it can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00193-00052422-00052744 also refer to the quantification and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00194-00052745-00053046 subsequent discounting of certain uh_X5o7sN7Y-00195-00053047-00053279 classes of people based on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00196-00053280-00053634 risks in my research I have seen uh_X5o7sN7Y-00197-00053635-00053796 the desire for the quantification of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00198-00053797-00054041 risk results in the widening of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00199-00054042-00054324 inequality and in startling encroachment uh_X5o7sN7Y-00200-00054325-00054720 in privacy so take for example at the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00201-00054721-00055076 plight of the formerly incarcerated the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00202-00055077-00055257 discounting of formerly incarcerated uh_X5o7sN7Y-00203-00055258-00055517 individuals through permanent criminal uh_X5o7sN7Y-00204-00055519-00055824 records has resulted in a paucity of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00205-00055825-00056040 second chances for those individuals in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00206-00056041-00056295 the workplace formerly incarcerated uh_X5o7sN7Y-00207-00056296-00056565 people find themselves permanently uh_X5o7sN7Y-00208-00056566-00056787 branded with a modern discovered letter uh_X5o7sN7Y-00209-00056788-00057024 in the form of collateral legal uh_X5o7sN7Y-00210-00057025-00057257 consequences that disqualify them from uh_X5o7sN7Y-00211-00057258-00057576 certain professions and that served to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00212-00057577-00057779 exclude them from needed governmental uh_X5o7sN7Y-00213-00057779-00058365 benefits this quantification of people uh_X5o7sN7Y-00214-00058366-00058748 also plays out in the genetics arena as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00215-00058749-00059034 a technology of genetic testing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00216-00059035-00059342 progresses Americans now experience uh_X5o7sN7Y-00217-00059344-00059541 genetic coercion which is an uh_X5o7sN7Y-00218-00059541-00059814 overwhelming compulsion to scrutinize uh_X5o7sN7Y-00219-00059815-00060084 and police the genome consider that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00220-00060085-00060498 since 2008 all newborns in America have uh_X5o7sN7Y-00221-00060499-00060696 been required to undergo genetic testing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00222-00060697-00061038 for disease and that eighty-five percent uh_X5o7sN7Y-00223-00061039-00061374 of American consumers expressed a desire uh_X5o7sN7Y-00224-00061375-00061812 to engage in genetic testing the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00225-00061813-00062046 quantification of individuals also plays uh_X5o7sN7Y-00226-00062047-00062354 out in the workplace in my current uh_X5o7sN7Y-00227-00062355-00062661 research work at Microsoft Research with uh_X5o7sN7Y-00228-00062662-00062930 Kate Crawford we focus on the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00229-00062932-00063282 quantification of workers Louis Brandeis uh_X5o7sN7Y-00230-00063283-00063544 is credited with popularizing the term uh_X5o7sN7Y-00231-00063545-00064026 scientific management this term was then uh_X5o7sN7Y-00232-00064027-00064260 adopted by Frederick Taylor for his uh_X5o7sN7Y-00233-00064261-00064554 theory of Management also known as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00234-00064554-00064955 terrorism but all I taylorism where the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00235-00064957-00065214 focus was on the job task itself and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00236-00065215-00065592 breaking it down into minut compartments uh_X5o7sN7Y-00237-00065593-00065826 that could then be mastered the focus uh_X5o7sN7Y-00238-00065827-00066119 now is on the individual workers body uh_X5o7sN7Y-00239-00066120-00066544 and in the organizational corporation uh_X5o7sN7Y-00240-00066545-00066742 mastering the individual workers body uh_X5o7sN7Y-00241-00066743-00067011 for greater productivity or better yet uh_X5o7sN7Y-00242-00067012-00067309 inducing the individual worker to master uh_X5o7sN7Y-00243-00067310-00067525 their own body for the benefit of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00244-00067526-00068008 corporation yet in what Professor Julie uh_X5o7sN7Y-00245-00068009-00068305 Cohen has identified as a surveillance uh_X5o7sN7Y-00246-00068306-00068701 innovation complex organizations seek to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00247-00068702-00068995 remove this process from the regulation uh_X5o7sN7Y-00248-00068996-00069271 reach of the state by presenting the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00249-00069272-00069472 increased surveillance of individual uh_X5o7sN7Y-00250-00069473-00069736 workers bodies as enabling innovation uh_X5o7sN7Y-00251-00069737-00070171 and economic growth our research at MSR uh_X5o7sN7Y-00252-00070172-00070351 focuses specifically on workplace uh_X5o7sN7Y-00253-00070352-00070759 wellness programs which is a six billion uh_X5o7sN7Y-00254-00070760-00071110 dollar annual industry dedicated to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00255-00071111-00071349 promoting healthy behavior among workers uh_X5o7sN7Y-00256-00071350-00071668 these programs encourage healthful diet uh_X5o7sN7Y-00257-00071669-00072106 and exercise and h1 people's weight uh_X5o7sN7Y-00258-00072107-00072400 people smoking and people's spending uh_X5o7sN7Y-00259-00072401-00072793 habits our research then seeks to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00260-00072794-00073255 understand the standards applied to the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00261-00073256-00073438 data collected from these programs and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00262-00073439-00073828 how this data and the interpretation of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00263-00073829-00074131 this data could impact a worker from uh_X5o7sN7Y-00264-00074132-00074437 whom it is generated as computer uh_X5o7sN7Y-00265-00074438-00074683 scientists as social scientists south uh_X5o7sN7Y-00266-00074684-00075082 lawyers we must keep asking how can we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00267-00075083-00075331 make technology work for us rather than uh_X5o7sN7Y-00268-00075332-00075693 against us how can we harness the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00269-00075694-00075973 computing power of both big and small uh_X5o7sN7Y-00270-00075974-00076375 data while being vigilant that such uh_X5o7sN7Y-00271-00076376-00076747 power does not create divides and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00272-00076748-00077047 inequality or open new avenues for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00273-00077048-00077314 discrimination thank you very much for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00274-00077315-00079071 your kind attention I look for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00275-00079072-00079686 hello everybody all right well I'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-00276-00079687-00079967 talking with Nathan took up what he uh_X5o7sN7Y-00277-00079968-00080093 called an opportunity to introduce uh_X5o7sN7Y-00278-00080094-00080303 myself to the Berkman community of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00279-00080304-00080549 interns and scholars that are here I'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-00280-00080550-00080801 excited to be here in Boston I'm a PhD uh_X5o7sN7Y-00281-00080802-00080951 candidate from the University of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00282-00080952-00081188 Illinois at Chicago and I'm in the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00283-00081189-00081336 communication department but I have this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00284-00081337-00081567 really unique opportunity there where uh_X5o7sN7Y-00285-00081568-00081729 I'm in a fellowship program where we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00286-00081730-00081897 bring together computer scientists uh_X5o7sN7Y-00287-00081898-00082104 computer engineers the health school and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00288-00082105-00082296 communication scholars to study issues uh_X5o7sN7Y-00289-00082297-00082521 of privacy so the opportunity to come to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00290-00082522-00082705 MSR which also has a very similar uh_X5o7sN7Y-00291-00082706-00082884 environment of people coming together uh_X5o7sN7Y-00292-00082885-00083016 from different fields to look at uh_X5o7sN7Y-00293-00083017-00083363 different issues in in computing and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00294-00083364-00083505 social particularly the social media uh_X5o7sN7Y-00295-00083506-00083669 collective it was a great opportunity uh_X5o7sN7Y-00296-00083670-00083979 for me to tie together some of my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00297-00083980-00084228 previous research so I take privacy uh_X5o7sN7Y-00298-00084229-00084380 research and from that perspective I'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-00299-00084381-00084599 usually looking at how do people enact uh_X5o7sN7Y-00300-00084600-00084855 privacy so when you go on facebook and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00301-00084856-00085106 you think i'm going to post this scene uh_X5o7sN7Y-00302-00085107-00085268 of me celebrating the blackhawks victory uh_X5o7sN7Y-00303-00085269-00085542 last night at the bar and I go well do I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00304-00085543-00085682 want my mom to see this and want my dad uh_X5o7sN7Y-00305-00085683-00085937 to see this no my boss to see this and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00306-00085938-00086103 so we look at the behaviors that people uh_X5o7sN7Y-00307-00086104-00086363 do online and then the considerations uh_X5o7sN7Y-00308-00086364-00086565 that go into those behaviors but what I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00309-00086566-00086729 found doing that research was that we're uh_X5o7sN7Y-00310-00086730-00086894 kind of ignoring the platform that these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00311-00086895-00087060 behaviors take place on and we're uh_X5o7sN7Y-00312-00087061-00087261 treating them is very neutral so that's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00313-00087262-00087467 kind of led me down this path where I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00314-00087468-00087692 started looking at as you mentioned the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00315-00087693-00087818 data that is collected and the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00316-00087819-00088088 algorithms that then in turn use that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00317-00088089-00088268 data to provide information to us and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00318-00088269-00088481 personalized what we see on the web and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00319-00088482-00088734 I've taken opportunity here at Microsoft uh_X5o7sN7Y-00320-00088735-00088941 to work with some people who specialize uh_X5o7sN7Y-00321-00088942-00089211 in very qualitative discourse analysis uh_X5o7sN7Y-00322-00089212-00089367 which is something that I'm here to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00323-00089368-00089565 learn more about how to do and do well uh_X5o7sN7Y-00324-00089566-00089879 so this is an opportunity for me to move uh_X5o7sN7Y-00325-00089880-00090024 away from some of the more quantified uh_X5o7sN7Y-00326-00090025-00090240 stuff that I do and move into this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00327-00090241-00090648 discourse analysis arena so the project uh_X5o7sN7Y-00328-00090649-00090743 that I'm going to do well I'm here uh_X5o7sN7Y-00329-00090744-00091025 involves looking at the facebook news uh_X5o7sN7Y-00330-00091026-00091304 feed algorithm Facebook put together a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00331-00091305-00091487 page that they call Facebook tips and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00332-00091488-00091844 this is a public page that hosts you can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00333-00091845-00091974 go there and they'll provide you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00334-00091975-00092219 information on how to look at who's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00335-00092220-00092363 around you with your friends and you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00336-00092364-00092561 icons and they also post a lot of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00337-00092562-00092744 information about how the newsfeed works uh_X5o7sN7Y-00338-00092745-00093119 so I'm going to be taking a look at this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00339-00093120-00093329 page and particularly several videos uh_X5o7sN7Y-00340-00093330-00093528 that they posted these are actually all uh_X5o7sN7Y-00341-00093529-00093680 the videos that they posted and all uh_X5o7sN7Y-00342-00093681-00093926 these are tagged under the headline news uh_X5o7sN7Y-00343-00093927-00094217 feed created by you so there are several uh_X5o7sN7Y-00344-00094218-00094469 different examples we have men women uh_X5o7sN7Y-00345-00094470-00094619 different ages what was interesting uh_X5o7sN7Y-00346-00094620-00094763 about these is Facebook pushed them out uh_X5o7sN7Y-00347-00094764-00095000 through the sponsored posts so they did uh_X5o7sN7Y-00348-00095001-00095271 generate a lot of views in the larger uh_X5o7sN7Y-00349-00095272-00095421 world of facebook it might not be a lot uh_X5o7sN7Y-00350-00095422-00095628 but in terms of millions of video views uh_X5o7sN7Y-00351-00095629-00095894 it got a lot of traction so I've uh_X5o7sN7Y-00352-00095895-00096084 collected those videos and in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00353-00096085-00096291 additionally I've collected all the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00354-00096292-00096392 comments that were posted on those uh_X5o7sN7Y-00355-00096393-00096518 videos and I'll talk a little bit about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00356-00096519-00096666 that more but I want to give you an uh_X5o7sN7Y-00357-00096667-00096836 example of one of the videos so let's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00358-00096837-00097349 see if this works through my newsfeed I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00359-00097350-00097544 actually found an amazing gym and I made uh_X5o7sN7Y-00360-00097545-00097746 a commitment to change my life for good uh_X5o7sN7Y-00361-00097747-00098006 I was able to like surround myself with uh_X5o7sN7Y-00362-00098007-00098267 so many inspiring ridiculous crazy uh_X5o7sN7Y-00363-00098268-00098600 people with with so much knowledge and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00364-00098601-00098910 expertise and I was like I just want to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00365-00098911-00099149 know what you know so I made it my views uh_X5o7sN7Y-00366-00099150-00099404 feed about wellness nutrition and just uh_X5o7sN7Y-00367-00099405-00099575 how to live your best life my community uh_X5o7sN7Y-00368-00099576-00099794 that I can look forward to seeing every uh_X5o7sN7Y-00369-00099795-00100319 day so Tim is completely and solely uh_X5o7sN7Y-00370-00100320-00100485 responsible apparently for creating the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00371-00100486-00100751 newsfeed that that he gets to see and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00372-00100752-00100872 what I'm hitting at is something that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00373-00100873-00101054 several of the researchers at Microsoft uh_X5o7sN7Y-00374-00101055-00101229 focus on and it said discourse matters uh_X5o7sN7Y-00375-00101230-00101436 it's very important the way that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00376-00101437-00101657 companies present themselves to users uh_X5o7sN7Y-00377-00101658-00101835 it's very important the way that users uh_X5o7sN7Y-00378-00101836-00102050 then understand how these things work in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00379-00102051-00102206 their lives and make sense of them so uh_X5o7sN7Y-00380-00102207-00102431 the focus of my research is to look at uh_X5o7sN7Y-00381-00102432-00102771 the discourse going on between Facebook uh_X5o7sN7Y-00382-00102772-00102951 and the users both in the videos and how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00383-00102952-00103149 they present these algorithms to be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00384-00103150-00103331 working and then also interestingly uh_X5o7sN7Y-00385-00103332-00103575 facebook as you can see on the guess it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00386-00103576-00103790 would be your right side facebook uh_X5o7sN7Y-00387-00103791-00103947 responded to most of the comments that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00388-00103948-00104207 were posted in the first week of each uh_X5o7sN7Y-00389-00104208-00104384 video going up and these videos are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00390-00104385-00104660 posted in early are sorry in late 2014 uh_X5o7sN7Y-00391-00104661-00104871 so I was hoping I would be able to read uh_X5o7sN7Y-00392-00104872-00105011 the screen from here but here's an uh_X5o7sN7Y-00393-00105013-00105246 example of video are a comment so i know uh_X5o7sN7Y-00394-00105247-00105515 the user says this leads me to believe i uh_X5o7sN7Y-00395-00105516-00105704 have control over my own feet i don't uh_X5o7sN7Y-00396-00105705-00105846 facebook is constantly making things uh_X5o7sN7Y-00397-00105847-00106073 disappear and rearranging the timeline I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00398-00106074-00106214 don't want to see something from six uh_X5o7sN7Y-00399-00106215-00106379 days ago when I can't see one thing I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00400-00106380-00106535 did want to see from an hour ago and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00401-00106536-00106821 Facebook replies I know in order to see uh_X5o7sN7Y-00402-00106822-00106971 stories your newsfeed in the order they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00403-00106972-00107135 were posted please follow these steps uh_X5o7sN7Y-00404-00107136-00107323 and our help center we hope this helps uh_X5o7sN7Y-00405-00107324-00107636 that one's kind of sterile that response uh_X5o7sN7Y-00406-00107637-00107856 is very corporate II feeling to me but uh_X5o7sN7Y-00407-00107857-00107999 the response has changed depending on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00408-00108000-00108396 the types of questions that are asked so uh_X5o7sN7Y-00409-00108397-00108575 another one is why do i keep getting old uh_X5o7sN7Y-00410-00108576-00108831 posts and facebook replies sometimes the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00411-00108832-00108950 story that you've already seen will uh_X5o7sN7Y-00412-00108951-00109061 reappear toward the top of your newsfeed uh_X5o7sN7Y-00413-00109062-00109265 because many of your friends have liked uh_X5o7sN7Y-00414-00109266-00109433 or commented on it this helps you see uh_X5o7sN7Y-00415-00109434-00109569 popular stories that your friends are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00416-00109570-00109736 interacting with most enjoying uh_X5o7sN7Y-00417-00109737-00109937 conversations around posts what's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00418-00109938-00110153 interesting is Facebook and I'm just uh_X5o7sN7Y-00419-00110154-00110276 starting this so I've collected the data uh_X5o7sN7Y-00420-00110277-00110448 and I'm at the very beginning of this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00421-00110449-00110690 project but looking at some of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00422-00110691-00110849 post-it we've seen facebook uses very uh_X5o7sN7Y-00423-00110850-00111083 awkward languages to avoid saying that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00424-00111084-00111335 we do this it's always you do this or uh_X5o7sN7Y-00425-00111336-00111582 your friends do that and so it's going uh_X5o7sN7Y-00426-00111583-00111693 to be I think it's going to be a very uh_X5o7sN7Y-00427-00111694-00111887 interesting project but as i mentioned uh_X5o7sN7Y-00428-00111888-00112037 i'm at the very very very beginning of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00429-00112038-00112337 it so the analysis that i'll be looking uh_X5o7sN7Y-00430-00112338-00112634 at through these comments is the user to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00431-00112635-00112872 facebook and i'm looking at you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-00432-00112873-00113024 questions is how do the users discuss uh_X5o7sN7Y-00433-00113025-00113208 the newsfeed I think there will be an uh_X5o7sN7Y-00434-00113208-00113378 opportunity a lot of the algorithm uh_X5o7sN7Y-00435-00113379-00113603 research keeps asking for more uh_X5o7sN7Y-00436-00113604-00113786 understandings of how people understand uh_X5o7sN7Y-00437-00113787-00114029 algorithms in society and what they know uh_X5o7sN7Y-00438-00114030-00114222 about them and I think that this is a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00439-00114223-00114432 unique space to actually look at and see uh_X5o7sN7Y-00440-00114433-00114693 people openly discussing this news feed uh_X5o7sN7Y-00441-00114694-00114899 algorithm which technically is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00442-00114900-00115095 algorithms so what is their uh_X5o7sN7Y-00443-00115096-00115253 understanding i'm also looking at uh_X5o7sN7Y-00444-00115254-00115463 facebook's positioning to the user in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00445-00115464-00115700 those responses that they give back and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00446-00115701-00115838 i'm wondering you know where do they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00447-00115839-00116097 place the responsibility and then lastly uh_X5o7sN7Y-00448-00116098-00116247 user to user so towards the end when uh_X5o7sN7Y-00449-00116248-00116549 facebook stops answering after about a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00450-00116550-00116697 week of the videos being posted they've uh_X5o7sN7Y-00451-00116698-00116936 answered most of the comments and then uh_X5o7sN7Y-00452-00116937-00117086 they stop and you see a lot of the users uh_X5o7sN7Y-00453-00117087-00117284 trying then to step in and explain how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00454-00117285-00117452 the algorithm is working to each other uh_X5o7sN7Y-00455-00117453-00117836 without facebook's mediation so that's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00456-00117837-00118023 the gist of my project and i look uh_X5o7sN7Y-00457-00118024-00118136 forward to hearing your feedback on it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00458-00118137-00118358 because i'm just starting so thank you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00459-00118359-00119643 very much uh_X5o7sN7Y-00460-00119644-00120009 hi I'm Nathan I'm a PhD student at the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00461-00120010-00120181 MIT Media Lab in center for civic media uh_X5o7sN7Y-00462-00120182-00120493 as well as a Berkman fellow and the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00463-00120494-00120697 question I've been asking or a lot at uh_X5o7sN7Y-00464-00120698-00121069 least I'm retro actively forcing onto my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00465-00121070-00121306 prior work is this question of how can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00466-00121307-00121519 we hold crowds accountable to the public uh_X5o7sN7Y-00467-00121520-00121726 and I'm going to be sharing three uh_X5o7sN7Y-00468-00121727-00122034 examples and really curious to hear your uh_X5o7sN7Y-00469-00122035-00122332 thoughts on this idea and how we might uh_X5o7sN7Y-00470-00122333-00122578 take it further the first one is peer uh_X5o7sN7Y-00471-00122579-00122890 production how I might we hold Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00472-00122891-00123205 accountable as the public for the power uh_X5o7sN7Y-00473-00123206-00123459 that it plays in society as often the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00474-00123460-00123673 first port of call for information and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00475-00123674-00123922 one way to do it is to create a petition uh_X5o7sN7Y-00476-00123923-00124207 addressed to Jimmy Wales which is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00477-00124208-00124423 exactly what this group of homeopathy uh_X5o7sN7Y-00478-00124424-00124761 advocates did after many years of trying uh_X5o7sN7Y-00479-00124763-00125104 to convince wikipedias editors to be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00480-00125105-00125433 more permissive of homeopathy related uh_X5o7sN7Y-00481-00125434-00125719 information so they said Jimmy Wales we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00482-00125720-00125914 really need you to take an executive uh_X5o7sN7Y-00483-00125915-00126316 action on wikipedians and they promise uh_X5o7sN7Y-00484-00126317-00126550 not to donate to wikipedia this is a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00485-00126551-00126781 model that we're used to seeing with uh_X5o7sN7Y-00486-00126782-00126984 corporations you create a pressure uh_X5o7sN7Y-00487-00126985-00127357 campaign you petition a powerful entity uh_X5o7sN7Y-00488-00127358-00127525 and you try to embarrass the company uh_X5o7sN7Y-00489-00127526-00127734 into protecting its brand but does that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00490-00127735-00128002 really work with Wikipedia which is a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00491-00128003-00128184 global movement of people who are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00492-00128185-00128419 contributing often pseudonymous lee uh_X5o7sN7Y-00493-00128420-00128788 another example was this case in 2014 or uh_X5o7sN7Y-00494-00128789-00129185 2013 where novelists noticed that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00495-00129186-00129478 articles about women novelists were uh_X5o7sN7Y-00496-00129479-00129631 being pushed out of the Nautilus uh_X5o7sN7Y-00497-00129632-00129909 category and into the women novelist uh_X5o7sN7Y-00498-00129910-00130201 category on Wikipedia and she wrote in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00499-00130202-00130393 New York Times out bed she wrote her uh_X5o7sN7Y-00500-00130394-00130600 colleagues and at the end of the article uh_X5o7sN7Y-00501-00130601-00130860 she says well we talked about it a lot uh_X5o7sN7Y-00502-00130861-00131089 and we've noticed that some wikipedians uh_X5o7sN7Y-00503-00131090-00131419 are changing the articles again is this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00504-00131420-00131602 idea that if you raise attention about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00505-00131603-00131708 something that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00506-00131709-00132044 there's maybe maybe Wikipedians aren't uh_X5o7sN7Y-00507-00132045-00132374 quite structured like a corporation but uh_X5o7sN7Y-00508-00132375-00132485 if you talk about it something might uh_X5o7sN7Y-00509-00132486-00132668 change and this is an area that I've uh_X5o7sN7Y-00510-00132669-00132977 worked on with design interventions with uh_X5o7sN7Y-00511-00132978-00133222 projects to broaden the diversity of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00512-00133223-00133451 wikipedias content about women you'll uh_X5o7sN7Y-00513-00133452-00133775 notice that there's about the same ratio uh_X5o7sN7Y-00514-00133776-00133985 of biographies about women in Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00515-00133986-00134285 as there are obituaries about women in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00516-00134286-00134479 the New York Times and often when people uh_X5o7sN7Y-00517-00134480-00134765 create infographics about issues like uh_X5o7sN7Y-00518-00134766-00135047 this they'll do it as a way to kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00519-00135048-00135377 prompt outrage to channel attention uh_X5o7sN7Y-00520-00135378-00135596 towards these powerful individuals with uh_X5o7sN7Y-00521-00135597-00135794 the passing on project we thought uh_X5o7sN7Y-00522-00135795-00136076 wikipedia actually is something that if uh_X5o7sN7Y-00523-00136077-00136310 you disagree with it you can join it and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00524-00136311-00136610 you can participate to change it so we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00525-00136611-00136772 created a crowdsourcing site where uh_X5o7sN7Y-00526-00136773-00137069 people could learn more about the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00527-00137070-00137312 amazing people who appeared in New York uh_X5o7sN7Y-00528-00137313-00137471 Times obituaries find out if there uh_X5o7sN7Y-00529-00137472-00137705 appear in Wikipedia and through the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00530-00137706-00137951 process of reading more about those uh_X5o7sN7Y-00531-00137952-00138179 people the system would reader source uh_X5o7sN7Y-00532-00138180-00138401 automatically create bundles of content uh_X5o7sN7Y-00533-00138402-00138664 that could go into Wikipedia from that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00534-00138665-00138959 channeling that frustration into a way uh_X5o7sN7Y-00535-00138960-00139184 that is compatible with how Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00536-00139185-00139436 works it's a project I'm continuing to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00537-00139437-00139621 explore with the wikimedia foundation uh_X5o7sN7Y-00538-00139622-00139859 another question has to do with how we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00539-00139860-00140111 hold social networks accountable for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00540-00140112-00140375 their influence in society and when I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00541-00140376-00140552 say that I don't just mean companies uh_X5o7sN7Y-00542-00140553-00140771 here's a slide from a recent facebook uh_X5o7sN7Y-00543-00140772-00141188 study that tried to quantify different uh_X5o7sN7Y-00544-00141189-00141662 sources of bias in the news that people uh_X5o7sN7Y-00545-00141663-00141926 access this is a chart of the percentage uh_X5o7sN7Y-00546-00141927-00142235 of news feed articles appearing in this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00547-00142236-00142529 particular samples news feeds that were uh_X5o7sN7Y-00548-00142530-00142862 from bipartisan or neutral politically uh_X5o7sN7Y-00549-00142863-00143069 neutral sources and they identified a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00550-00143070-00143408 number of causes or reasons why someone uh_X5o7sN7Y-00551-00143409-00143621 might have a bias news feed one might be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00552-00143622-00143822 the media the media is just publishing a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00553-00143823-00144074 certain ratio across available uh_X5o7sN7Y-00554-00144075-00144332 publications of content another might be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00555-00144333-00144512 your friends you choose who you are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00556-00144513-00144656 friends with and they share information uh_X5o7sN7Y-00557-00144657-00144875 and you see the information shared by uh_X5o7sN7Y-00558-00144876-00145088 your friends another might be the news uh_X5o7sN7Y-00559-00145089-00145259 algorithm which we've heard a little bit uh_X5o7sN7Y-00560-00145260-00145544 about and Facebook was keen to note that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00561-00145545-00145817 it probably had the least impact on what uh_X5o7sN7Y-00562-00145818-00146000 people were reading of all of them and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00563-00146001-00146153 then of course your personal decisions uh_X5o7sN7Y-00564-00146154-00146483 and in my research I'm less interested uh_X5o7sN7Y-00565-00146484-00146687 in the question of the newsfeed and I'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-00566-00146688-00146849 much more interested in all of those uh_X5o7sN7Y-00567-00146850-00147092 other social factors when it means to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00568-00147093-00147455 hold our networks accountable which are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00569-00147456-00147761 is much trickier to figure out then what uh_X5o7sN7Y-00570-00147762-00147902 it means to hold say Facebook uh_X5o7sN7Y-00571-00147903-00148073 accountable for the algorithms that it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00572-00148074-00148265 has and in one example of a design uh_X5o7sN7Y-00573-00148266-00148481 intervention is the project I created in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00574-00148482-00148694 partnership with Sarah celibates which uh_X5o7sN7Y-00575-00148695-00148859 is followed bias that we're currently uh_X5o7sN7Y-00576-00148860-00149087 doing tests on with journalists which uh_X5o7sN7Y-00577-00149088-00149282 which shows people the gender ratio of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00578-00149283-00149516 who they pay attention to on Twitter we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00579-00149517-00149729 can think of journalists as a crowd that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00580-00149730-00150002 do actually have a big influence on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00581-00150003-00150194 society and it is a matter of public uh_X5o7sN7Y-00582-00150195-00150341 interest who they choose to pay uh_X5o7sN7Y-00583-00150342-00150521 attention to and who they use as sources uh_X5o7sN7Y-00584-00150522-00150767 and we're trying to see if providing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00585-00150768-00151031 them with a chance to be more aware of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00586-00151032-00151319 the gender ratio if they follow and make uh_X5o7sN7Y-00587-00151320-00151469 suggestions to each other actually has uh_X5o7sN7Y-00588-00151470-00151832 an impact on how they carry out their uh_X5o7sN7Y-00589-00151833-00152123 work and we might also think about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00590-00152124-00152456 distributed decision-making coming back uh_X5o7sN7Y-00591-00152457-00152609 to Wikipedia there was a controversy uh_X5o7sN7Y-00592-00152610-00152987 earlier this year where Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00593-00152988-00153419 allegedly was taking moderation actions uh_X5o7sN7Y-00594-00153420-00153698 bant topic banning some editors from uh_X5o7sN7Y-00595-00153699-00153920 very controversial gamergate related uh_X5o7sN7Y-00596-00153921-00154262 topics and actually local scholar Mark uh_X5o7sN7Y-00597-00154263-00154496 Bernstein noticed this and wrote a blog uh_X5o7sN7Y-00598-00154497-00154732 post about it in like a classic like uh_X5o7sN7Y-00599-00154733-00154949 accountability journalism style saying uh_X5o7sN7Y-00600-00154950-00155084 this is a problem we need to do uh_X5o7sN7Y-00601-00155085-00155276 something about it wikipedia isn't doing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00602-00155277-00155567 enough about it and journalists started uh_X5o7sN7Y-00603-00155568-00155786 writing about this issue very much uh_X5o7sN7Y-00604-00155787-00155969 following that accountability journalism uh_X5o7sN7Y-00605-00155970-00156272 frame so they they made various claims uh_X5o7sN7Y-00606-00156273-00156653 that they then had to retract because uh_X5o7sN7Y-00607-00156654-00156845 the journalist writing about Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00608-00156846-00157184 didn't actually understand the various uh_X5o7sN7Y-00609-00157185-00157430 groups and processes and structure of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00610-00157431-00157754 how Wikipedia worked and had to rewrite uh_X5o7sN7Y-00611-00157755-00158114 substantial parts of that article and it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00612-00158115-00158279 raises this question it turns out that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00613-00158280-00158370 there's the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00614-00158371-00158566 entity in the english-language wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-00615-00158567-00158850 called ARB com who handles various uh_X5o7sN7Y-00616-00158851-00159093 controversies and arbitration issues uh_X5o7sN7Y-00617-00159094-00159278 they only have a limited scope and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00618-00159279-00159551 suddenly people found themselves mired uh_X5o7sN7Y-00619-00159552-00159813 in the poly internal politics of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00620-00159814-00160241 Wikipedia and unsure how even to talk to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00621-00160242-00160431 Wikipedia or Wikipedians over the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00622-00160432-00160639 wikimedia foundation or Jimmy Wales to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00623-00160640-00161010 get this issue addressed although since uh_X5o7sN7Y-00624-00161011-00161228 that we've started to see articles in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00625-00161229-00161499 the press that are going beyond saying uh_X5o7sN7Y-00626-00161500-00161751 wikipedia has a problem to talking about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00627-00161752-00161985 the specific politics of Wikipedia as in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00628-00161986-00162116 this Newsweek article that was actually uh_X5o7sN7Y-00629-00162117-00162440 reporting on the Wikipedia arbitration uh_X5o7sN7Y-00630-00162441-00162810 committee describing it as the highest uh_X5o7sN7Y-00631-00162811-00163083 court in Wikipedia land and starting to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00632-00163084-00163257 think about reporting on it in similar uh_X5o7sN7Y-00633-00163258-00163541 ways as they might report on other forms uh_X5o7sN7Y-00634-00163542-00163904 of governance in society and so for my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00635-00163905-00164169 work here at Microsoft and ongoing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00636-00164170-00164315 research I'm starting to think more uh_X5o7sN7Y-00637-00164316-00164701 about the people that play these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00638-00164702-00164961 profoundly important roles in our online uh_X5o7sN7Y-00639-00164962-00165304 lives who make decisions about what to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00640-00165305-00165762 delete who to suspend what the norms are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00641-00165763-00165969 in our communities one example of that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00642-00165970-00166194 is a report i did with many of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00643-00166195-00166524 people at Berkman doing an audit of how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00644-00166525-00166833 Twitter handles harassment and looking uh_X5o7sN7Y-00645-00166834-00167051 at the process of reporting reviewing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00646-00167052-00167247 and responding to harassment on on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00647-00167248-00167544 Twitter it came about because the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00648-00167545-00167738 advocacy organization women action in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00649-00167739-00167996 the media took three weeks to receive uh_X5o7sN7Y-00650-00167997-00168186 harassment reports from members of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00651-00168187-00168396 public and then forwarded them on to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00652-00168397-00168747 Twitter and we were able to then look at uh_X5o7sN7Y-00653-00168748-00168912 the data that they collected in that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00654-00168913-00169122 process data that's usually hidden uh_X5o7sN7Y-00655-00169123-00169368 inside of companies to get greater uh_X5o7sN7Y-00656-00169369-00169860 visibility on this kind of process so we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00657-00169861-00170097 looked at who was reporting harassment uh_X5o7sN7Y-00658-00170098-00170247 the kinds of harassment that were being uh_X5o7sN7Y-00659-00170248-00170463 reported as well as the experience of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00660-00170464-00170702 handling this work which is often very uh_X5o7sN7Y-00661-00170703-00171002 taxing it's very time-intensive in wen's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00662-00171003-00171219 case it was volunteer driven on sites uh_X5o7sN7Y-00663-00171220-00171443 like wikipedia and reddit it's also done uh_X5o7sN7Y-00664-00171444-00171727 unpaid by volunteers and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00665-00171728-00172015 have very serious mental health risks so uh_X5o7sN7Y-00666-00172016-00172180 this summer I'm asking two questions uh_X5o7sN7Y-00667-00172181-00172390 firstly I'm looking at the work of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00668-00172391-00172750 Reddit moderators there are over 550,000 uh_X5o7sN7Y-00669-00172751-00173065 subreddits across reddit and over a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00670-00173066-00173314 hundred thousand moderators who have uh_X5o7sN7Y-00671-00173315-00173605 this official role on reddit and i'll be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00672-00173606-00173818 doing qualitative work to understand how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00673-00173819-00174094 they see their work what they see as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00674-00174095-00174307 their job and not their job and how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00675-00174308-00174493 they're responding to more recent uh_X5o7sN7Y-00676-00174494-00174931 controversies around reddit's corporate uh_X5o7sN7Y-00677-00174932-00175375 role in moderating behavior and speech uh_X5o7sN7Y-00678-00175376-00175576 on the site and i'll also be continuing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00679-00175577-00175771 to ask further about this gamergate uh_X5o7sN7Y-00680-00175772-00176008 controversy as i ask the question what uh_X5o7sN7Y-00681-00176009-00176185 does it mean to hold crowds accountable uh_X5o7sN7Y-00682-00176186-00176422 for the power they have in our public uh_X5o7sN7Y-00683-00176423-00178420 lives thanks uh_X5o7sN7Y-00684-00178421-00178702 okay hi everyone my name is Alina and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00685-00178703-00178919 I'm from Indiana University but before uh_X5o7sN7Y-00686-00178920-00179086 introducing you guys to me I want to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00687-00179087-00179372 introduce you to the work that I do in a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00688-00179373-00179723 virtual game it's an MMO a massively uh_X5o7sN7Y-00689-00179724-00179899 multiplayer online game called EVE uh_X5o7sN7Y-00690-00179900-00180095 Online and this is what it's like to be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00692-00185611-00185850 alright so that was just a tiny snippet uh_X5o7sN7Y-00693-00185851-00186174 for you right there of this massively uh_X5o7sN7Y-00694-00186175-00186495 multiplayer online game and I'm from uh_X5o7sN7Y-00695-00186496-00186704 Indiana University I'm finishing up my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00696-00186705-00186921 PhD there and I'm also in turning this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00697-00186922-00187269 summer at a Microsoft Research so a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00698-00187270-00187578 little bit about my dissertation I've uh_X5o7sN7Y-00699-00187579-00187766 trained I've been training as a media uh_X5o7sN7Y-00700-00187767-00188061 anthropologist and my focus is on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00701-00188062-00188502 consumer culture so I study gaming uh_X5o7sN7Y-00702-00188503-00188741 communities so these are people who play uh_X5o7sN7Y-00703-00188742-00189114 games together they hang out online they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00704-00189115-00189369 talk to each other in person as well as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00705-00189370-00189513 online about their hobbies and what uh_X5o7sN7Y-00706-00189514-00189633 interests me about these gaming uh_X5o7sN7Y-00707-00189634-00189837 communities is how they make sense of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00708-00189838-00190128 first of all their personal place and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00709-00190129-00190401 role in this massive world EVE Online is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00710-00190402-00190677 a huge world what you saw in that clip uh_X5o7sN7Y-00711-00190678-00191031 was actual player dialogue so this is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00712-00191032-00191268 them talking on the comms it's been uh_X5o7sN7Y-00713-00191269-00191526 edited by the company but it's all uh_X5o7sN7Y-00714-00191527-00191907 actual people and how do they cover up uh_X5o7sN7Y-00715-00191908-00192179 their own little corner of space my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00716-00192180-00192351 research shows that it's made sensible uh_X5o7sN7Y-00717-00192352-00192590 through spectacular branded rituals uh_X5o7sN7Y-00718-00192591-00192828 where these lights these sounds these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00719-00192829-00193131 human bodies and alcohol as well come uh_X5o7sN7Y-00720-00193132-00193350 together in just the right alignment for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00721-00193351-00193734 players to see to hear to touch as well uh_X5o7sN7Y-00722-00193735-00193974 as to feel that they are truly part of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00723-00193975-00194151 something larger than themselves so this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00724-00194152-00194307 happens at brand fest but it also uh_X5o7sN7Y-00725-00194308-00194673 happens within the game itself how do uh_X5o7sN7Y-00726-00194674-00194883 players make sense of the hours and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00727-00194884-00195111 effort spent on this game and its uh_X5o7sN7Y-00728-00195112-00195399 community right gamers especially in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00729-00195400-00195693 this game are really hardcore they spent uh_X5o7sN7Y-00730-00195694-00195921 hours and hours every week building up uh_X5o7sN7Y-00731-00195922-00196137 their own little Empire within the game uh_X5o7sN7Y-00732-00196138-00196386 and it's made sensible through reward uh_X5o7sN7Y-00733-00196387-00196628 and reputation systems within the game uh_X5o7sN7Y-00734-00196629-00196845 itself but also within the wider gaming uh_X5o7sN7Y-00735-00196846-00197070 community some of these reputation and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00736-00197071-00197259 reward systems are designed by companies uh_X5o7sN7Y-00737-00197260-00197463 but others emerge from the community uh_X5o7sN7Y-00738-00197464-00197784 itself finally I asked how do players uh_X5o7sN7Y-00739-00197785-00197961 make sense of this time that they've uh_X5o7sN7Y-00740-00197962-00198213 invested in the hobby of the identities uh_X5o7sN7Y-00741-00198214-00198495 as gamers and as eve online gamers well uh_X5o7sN7Y-00742-00198496-00198672 it's made sensible through discussions uh_X5o7sN7Y-00743-00198673-00198904 about work-life balance and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00744-00198905-00199118 do these expectations that gamers have uh_X5o7sN7Y-00745-00199119-00199288 but not only them but all kinds of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00746-00199289-00199544 hobbyists all kinds of consumers who see uh_X5o7sN7Y-00747-00199545-00199729 their work of consumption as somehow uh_X5o7sN7Y-00748-00199730-00200038 productive how do they create value and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00749-00200039-00200236 by this I mean economic value but not uh_X5o7sN7Y-00750-00200237-00200479 just that cultural value social value uh_X5o7sN7Y-00751-00200480-00200720 from one's hobbies and at the base of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00752-00200721-00200909 all these rituals these systems these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00753-00200910-00201163 expectations or what I call compensatory uh_X5o7sN7Y-00754-00201164-00201463 drives where players you use to get uh_X5o7sN7Y-00755-00201464-00201727 things to add up get things to even out uh_X5o7sN7Y-00756-00201728-00201973 and also to get what's coming to them uh_X5o7sN7Y-00757-00201974-00202208 when you think about compensation you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00758-00202209-00202373 may think about recompense or uh_X5o7sN7Y-00759-00202374-00202654 retribution or acquittal and it's not uh_X5o7sN7Y-00760-00202655-00202796 the same thing as but it's also uh_X5o7sN7Y-00761-00202797-00203243 connected to other ideas about counter uh_X5o7sN7Y-00762-00203244-00203432 balancing of effects as well as a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00763-00203433-00203686 neutralizing of forces at the end of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00764-00203687-00203894 day in the games that we play we seek uh_X5o7sN7Y-00765-00203895-00204190 balance at the end of the day in our uh_X5o7sN7Y-00766-00204191-00204412 voluntary social activities what we seek uh_X5o7sN7Y-00767-00204413-00204683 is a kind of moral equilibrium and these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00768-00204684-00204913 compensatory forces they are at work to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00769-00204914-00205159 connect players to this massive and yet uh_X5o7sN7Y-00770-00205160-00205408 somehow intangible world and to give uh_X5o7sN7Y-00771-00205409-00205577 gaming communities a sense of fairness uh_X5o7sN7Y-00772-00205578-00205829 and justice and finally to give gaming uh_X5o7sN7Y-00773-00205830-00206271 practices a sense or a kind of aesthetic uh_X5o7sN7Y-00774-00206273-00206791 economic and social legitimacy so my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00775-00206792-00207080 internship project for this summer is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00776-00207081-00207382 about eve online and as you can see it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00777-00207383-00207598 a space game you fly around in space but uh_X5o7sN7Y-00778-00207600-00207746 you also work a lot with all these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00779-00207746-00207964 little you know pop-up windows you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-00780-00207965-00208219 almost like spreadsheets right and it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00781-00208221-00208379 a hyper capitalist world where the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00782-00208380-00208510 universe is really over run by uh_X5o7sN7Y-00783-00208511-00208700 corporations there are no government's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00784-00208701-00208976 warfare murder theft all these are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00785-00208977-00209131 sanctioned as long as you can get away uh_X5o7sN7Y-00786-00209132-00209359 with it within this really exciting uh_X5o7sN7Y-00787-00209360-00209632 world there is a group of players who uh_X5o7sN7Y-00788-00209633-00209869 are consultants to the game company yet uh_X5o7sN7Y-00789-00209871-00210121 they have been democratically elected by uh_X5o7sN7Y-00790-00210123-00210344 these players these players have cast uh_X5o7sN7Y-00791-00210344-00210655 their votes to have these consultants uh_X5o7sN7Y-00792-00210656-00210907 represent via interests within the game uh_X5o7sN7Y-00793-00210908-00211121 to developers and it's very interesting uh_X5o7sN7Y-00794-00211121-00211321 to me how this savage fictional world is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00795-00211323-00211519 somehow managed through surprisingly uh_X5o7sN7Y-00796-00211519-00211928 civilized processes so on one hand we uh_X5o7sN7Y-00797-00211929-00212262 have player representation and then uh_X5o7sN7Y-00798-00212263-00212396 on the other hand we have corporate uh_X5o7sN7Y-00799-00212398-00212742 consulting consultation excuse me and it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00800-00212742-00212901 seems you know of course you know it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00801-00212902-00213092 makes total sense but players have uh_X5o7sN7Y-00802-00213094-00213327 demands that are very in a way micro uh_X5o7sN7Y-00803-00213328-00213516 level they want this mechanism to beat uh_X5o7sN7Y-00804-00213517-00213657 worked in this way because it benefits uh_X5o7sN7Y-00805-00213658-00213896 their player group developers on the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00806-00213898-00214065 other hand have very macro level uh_X5o7sN7Y-00807-00214066-00214257 concerns they are concerned with the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00808-00214258-00214482 overall system and how it works for all uh_X5o7sN7Y-00809-00214483-00214878 the players and of course profits on the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00810-00214879-00215130 other hand there are informal systems of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00811-00215131-00215348 accountability if these representatives uh_X5o7sN7Y-00812-00215350-00215526 or these consultants don't do their job uh_X5o7sN7Y-00813-00215527-00215700 they don't get elected they also get uh_X5o7sN7Y-00814-00215701-00215904 complained at all the time via email on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00815-00215905-00216198 the forums and at conventions however uh_X5o7sN7Y-00816-00216198-00216444 when they do this consultancy work they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00817-00216444-00216711 have no real power to make decisions uh_X5o7sN7Y-00818-00216712-00216903 within the company all they can do is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00819-00216904-00217131 recommend and the developers are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00820-00217132-00217494 obligated to listen so what I'm doing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00821-00217494-00217619 this summer is that I'm going to be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00822-00217621-00217779 looking at meeting minutes over these uh_X5o7sN7Y-00823-00217780-00218073 five years that this council has existed uh_X5o7sN7Y-00824-00218073-00218340 between the developers and these player uh_X5o7sN7Y-00825-00218341-00218508 consultants I'm also going to be looking uh_X5o7sN7Y-00826-00218509-00218763 at town hall meeting minutes or meetings uh_X5o7sN7Y-00827-00218764-00218973 excuse me between the council members uh_X5o7sN7Y-00828-00218973-00219240 and the playerbase finally I'm also uh_X5o7sN7Y-00829-00219241-00219441 going to be looking at election campaign uh_X5o7sN7Y-00830-00219442-00219750 materials and responses to them and what uh_X5o7sN7Y-00831-00219751-00220069 I'm interested in is how do these actors uh_X5o7sN7Y-00832-00220071-00220335 council members players developers how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00833-00220336-00220578 do they articulate their roles and how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00834-00220579-00220725 do they articulate their roles in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00835-00220726-00221046 relation to each other right where does uh_X5o7sN7Y-00836-00221046-00221273 my job as a player end and whereas your uh_X5o7sN7Y-00837-00221275-00221562 job is a consultant start I'm also uh_X5o7sN7Y-00838-00221563-00221775 tracing how players learn to become uh_X5o7sN7Y-00839-00221776-00222027 council members over their term of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00840-00222028-00222306 office right consultancy or the identity uh_X5o7sN7Y-00841-00222307-00222525 of a consultant doesn't just happen and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00842-00222526-00222678 through these meeting minutes you can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00843-00222679-00222898 actually trace how they become in a way uh_X5o7sN7Y-00844-00222900-00223176 socialized or trained into the language uh_X5o7sN7Y-00845-00223177-00223386 of game development how to become uh_X5o7sN7Y-00846-00223387-00223644 trained in the language of thinking uh_X5o7sN7Y-00847-00223644-00223887 broadly for the company instead of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00848-00223888-00224123 thinking about player demands and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00849-00224125-00224373 finally I'm trying to map these feedback uh_X5o7sN7Y-00850-00224373-00224586 channels not just the official feedback uh_X5o7sN7Y-00851-00224587-00224771 channels that all these online game uh_X5o7sN7Y-00852-00224773-00225159 communities have such as forums coms uh_X5o7sN7Y-00853-00225160-00225419 emails but also the informal feedback uh_X5o7sN7Y-00854-00225421-00225554 mechanisms and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00855-00225555-00225743 most importantly their directionality uh_X5o7sN7Y-00856-00225744-00225959 remember that feedback doesn't just run uh_X5o7sN7Y-00857-00225960-00226193 up the chain from players to consultants uh_X5o7sN7Y-00858-00226194-00226508 to developers it also runs down the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00859-00226509-00226853 consultants have this job whether it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00860-00226854-00227063 implicit or explicit to in a way uh_X5o7sN7Y-00861-00227064-00227348 advocate for the company to spread uh_X5o7sN7Y-00862-00227349-00227715 corporate goodwill to the masses all uh_X5o7sN7Y-00863-00227716-00227894 right so finally a couple of points for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00864-00227895-00228117 discussion today all right if we can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00865-00228117-00228462 think about these voting mechanisms uh_X5o7sN7Y-00866-00228463-00228731 within this player consultancy group as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00867-00228732-00229067 one kind of democratic mechanism across uh_X5o7sN7Y-00868-00229068-00229362 proprietary media platforms and consumer uh_X5o7sN7Y-00869-00229363-00229566 practices right it's not just this uh_X5o7sN7Y-00870-00229567-00229887 player council but thinking back even to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00871-00229888-00230115 reality TV shows where there was uh_X5o7sN7Y-00872-00230116-00230354 audience voting right thinking forward uh_X5o7sN7Y-00873-00230355-00230710 to different kinds on a smaller scale of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00874-00230711-00231107 player tribunals or player guilds that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00875-00231108-00231304 have some kind of voting mechanism uh_X5o7sN7Y-00876-00231305-00231542 involved we can think about these in a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00877-00231543-00231710 couple of ways we can think about them uh_X5o7sN7Y-00878-00231711-00231980 as market populism you know the same old uh_X5o7sN7Y-00879-00231981-00232199 story this is neoliberalism at work uh_X5o7sN7Y-00880-00232200-00232475 right consumption rituals are have been uh_X5o7sN7Y-00881-00232476-00232769 replacing for several decades real uh_X5o7sN7Y-00882-00232770-00233153 authentic democratic engagement on the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00883-00233154-00233281 other hand we can think about it as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00884-00233282-00233603 consumer co-creation this is a different uh_X5o7sN7Y-00885-00233604-00233988 version of customer relations the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00886-00233989-00234224 liberation in this case is commoditized uh_X5o7sN7Y-00887-00234225-00234494 into a kind of very pleasurable and also uh_X5o7sN7Y-00888-00234495-00234785 very valuable branded experience right uh_X5o7sN7Y-00889-00234786-00235058 giving feedback is not just to make the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00890-00235059-00235256 system better and in fact makes your own uh_X5o7sN7Y-00891-00235257-00235614 experience as a consumer more exciting uh_X5o7sN7Y-00892-00235615-00236021 more engaging finally I think it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00893-00236022-00236166 really interesting to think about the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00894-00236167-00236453 design of user experiences those of you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00895-00236454-00236573 who are designers here you know that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00896-00236574-00236747 when you think about engagement you uh_X5o7sN7Y-00897-00236748-00236918 don't want to give the user what they uh_X5o7sN7Y-00898-00236919-00237134 want they have no idea what they want uh_X5o7sN7Y-00899-00237135-00237368 that again is a kind of narrative that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00900-00237369-00237755 developers use to to innovate filter or uh_X5o7sN7Y-00901-00237756-00238184 discount popular will finally the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00902-00238185-00238389 overall question that I'm asking is how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00903-00238390-00238679 are these kinds of democratic mechanisms uh_X5o7sN7Y-00904-00238680-00238875 how are they changing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00905-00238876-00239082 the means and meanings of consumption uh_X5o7sN7Y-00906-00239083-00239273 right I like to hear from you guys in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00907-00239275-00240240 the next couple minutes so could i ask uh_X5o7sN7Y-00908-00240241-00240540 our our speakers to come up here I think uh_X5o7sN7Y-00909-00240541-00240680 that might be easier if you're all uh_X5o7sN7Y-00910-00240681-00240981 visible in front you bring your chairs uh_X5o7sN7Y-00911-00240982-00241332 around if that's okay and and I will uh_X5o7sN7Y-00912-00241333-00241614 hold all of my questions and comments uh_X5o7sN7Y-00913-00241615-00241740 because I get the pleasure of working uh_X5o7sN7Y-00914-00241741-00241940 with these people all summer long so uh_X5o7sN7Y-00915-00241941-00242223 with that let me open it up to to the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00916-00242223-00243173 group questions or comments yes Nathan uh_X5o7sN7Y-00917-00243175-00243636 this is for you I'm curious how how how uh_X5o7sN7Y-00918-00243637-00244110 you can the how crowds develop and or uh_X5o7sN7Y-00919-00244111-00244479 how crowds are different from simply uh_X5o7sN7Y-00920-00244480-00245106 users or consumers or patients you've uh_X5o7sN7Y-00921-00245107-00245331 selected wikipedia where it's kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00922-00245332-00245610 obvious there's a crowd but I don't know uh_X5o7sN7Y-00923-00245611-00245846 what the how to define that kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00924-00245848-00246015 crowd and distinguish it from other uh_X5o7sN7Y-00925-00246016-00246678 groups I see that seems like an uh_X5o7sN7Y-00926-00246679-00246933 especially important question that I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00927-00246934-00247073 imagine you thought a lot about and uh_X5o7sN7Y-00928-00247075-00247311 you're like dispute resolution work as uh_X5o7sN7Y-00929-00247312-00247523 well as as you know there are different uh_X5o7sN7Y-00930-00247525-00247815 parties that we think about as needing uh_X5o7sN7Y-00931-00247816-00247965 accountability we might think about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00932-00247966-00248319 individuals or institutions i think i'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-00933-00248319-00248613 using crowd as a placeholder term for uh_X5o7sN7Y-00934-00248614-00248940 now to refer to a variety of things that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00935-00248941-00249219 we we don't quite yet know where to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00936-00249219-00249644 apply the lever to change things and it uh_X5o7sN7Y-00937-00249646-00250064 might be like a cumulative effect of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00938-00250065-00250401 like the social choices and the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00939-00250402-00250656 friendships that we have in a like a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00940-00250657-00251007 like in a network but it might also be uh_X5o7sN7Y-00941-00251008-00251358 something more identifiable as a group uh_X5o7sN7Y-00942-00251359-00251694 in the case of something like wikipedias uh_X5o7sN7Y-00943-00251694-00251985 arbitration committee I'd love to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00944-00251986-00252066 continue to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00945-00252067-00252503 like figure out together what those uh_X5o7sN7Y-00946-00252504-00252741 different structures and forms are uh_X5o7sN7Y-00947-00252742-00252896 because I think that's important to uh_X5o7sN7Y-00948-00252898-00253164 understanding them as well as coming up uh_X5o7sN7Y-00949-00253165-00253469 with strategies for holding all those uh_X5o7sN7Y-00950-00253471-00253721 different structures and groups uh_X5o7sN7Y-00951-00253723-00254625 accountable oh no we be able to catch uh_X5o7sN7Y-00952-00254626-00254802 the recording sorry and if I could ask uh_X5o7sN7Y-00953-00254803-00254928 folks to say their name and affiliation uh_X5o7sN7Y-00954-00254929-00255288 please hi I'm Rebecca Wexler I'm a JD uh_X5o7sN7Y-00955-00255289-00255455 candidate at Yale and a visiting scholar uh_X5o7sN7Y-00956-00255456-00255627 here in history of science and my uh_X5o7sN7Y-00957-00255628-00255789 questions for the last presentation is uh_X5o7sN7Y-00958-00255790-00256152 voting or what what is your model of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-00959-00256153-00256323 authentic democratic engagement that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00960-00256323-00256505 neoliberalism has replaced over the past uh_X5o7sN7Y-00961-00256506-00256692 series of decades and I thought I heard uh_X5o7sN7Y-00962-00256692-00256859 from you that voting might be that model uh_X5o7sN7Y-00963-00256860-00257057 is that correcting could you expand on uh_X5o7sN7Y-00964-00257058-00257646 it well my my version or my utopia if uh_X5o7sN7Y-00965-00257646-00257896 you will would be a kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00966-00257898-00258219 participatory democracy right but I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00967-00258219-00258417 think not so much my thinking is not so uh_X5o7sN7Y-00968-00258417-00258771 much towards official political systems uh_X5o7sN7Y-00969-00258771-00258956 my thinking is more in terms of how can uh_X5o7sN7Y-00970-00258957-00259217 the media allow citizens to participate uh_X5o7sN7Y-00971-00259219-00259500 and there's a lovely book that i've been uh_X5o7sN7Y-00972-00259501-00259823 reading by nico cap NTA right which has uh_X5o7sN7Y-00973-00259825-00260067 a very nice framework for thinking about uh_X5o7sN7Y-00974-00260067-00260348 participation in the media specifically uh_X5o7sN7Y-00975-00260350-00260589 and how different levels of engagement uh_X5o7sN7Y-00976-00260590-00260819 and different mechanisms can be used not uh_X5o7sN7Y-00977-00260821-00261126 just to engage users or to engage uh_X5o7sN7Y-00978-00261127-00261512 audiences but to really give them uh_X5o7sN7Y-00979-00261513-00261842 decision-making power in the systems but uh_X5o7sN7Y-00980-00261844-00262245 also in the content and it's far off but uh_X5o7sN7Y-00981-00262246-00262503 I think we work inch by inch we'll get uh_X5o7sN7Y-00982-00262504-00263562 there someday uh_X5o7sN7Y-00983-00263563-00263800 hi I'm Charlton Gillespie I'm a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00984-00263801-00263959 principal researcher of Microsoft and I uh_X5o7sN7Y-00985-00263960-00264070 get the most summer but I'm gonna ask a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00986-00264071-00264292 question anyway so I was thinking uh_X5o7sN7Y-00987-00264293-00264664 especially Nathan Alina and Stacey's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00988-00264665-00264943 projects family you can way into that uh_X5o7sN7Y-00989-00264944-00265092 you're clearly looking at a place where uh_X5o7sN7Y-00990-00265093-00265315 you're trying to think about how groups uh_X5o7sN7Y-00991-00265316-00265582 of people think about their role in a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00992-00265583-00265789 place and negotiate the relationship uh_X5o7sN7Y-00993-00265790-00266017 between some platformer operator that's uh_X5o7sN7Y-00994-00266018-00266278 got a role to play but then I think in a uh_X5o7sN7Y-00995-00266279-00266359 number of them there's an additional uh_X5o7sN7Y-00996-00266360-00266530 thing which is that the world is meant uh_X5o7sN7Y-00997-00266531-00266719 to be something and it's most obvious in uh_X5o7sN7Y-00998-00266720-00266836 EVE Online where there's a kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-00999-00266837-00267106 narrative Wikipedia clearly has an idea uh_X5o7sN7Y-01000-00267107-00267358 of itself and Facebook is proposing uh_X5o7sN7Y-01001-00267359-00267586 ideas of itself may be much quiet much uh_X5o7sN7Y-01002-00267587-00267766 we're quietly in the videos so it's just uh_X5o7sN7Y-01003-00267767-00267928 curious to hear because that's kind of a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01004-00267929-00268039 thread that goes through a lot of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01005-00268040-00268309 projects like that part about not just uh_X5o7sN7Y-01006-00268310-00268492 what should the group do classic sort of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01007-00268493-00268633 governance problems and what's the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01008-00268634-00268783 relationship between that set of people uh_X5o7sN7Y-01009-00268784-00269095 and some institution but the additional uh_X5o7sN7Y-01010-00269096-00269314 problem of like the narrative or claim uh_X5o7sN7Y-01011-00269315-00269533 or nature of the institution is that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01012-00269534-00269839 narrative representation is that masking uh_X5o7sN7Y-01013-00269840-00270001 the real problems of governance is it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01014-00270002-00270232 distorting is it facilitating is it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01015-00270233-00270430 shaping what's the right verb for that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01016-00270431-00270619 sentence that those claims and that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01017-00270620-00270793 picture of what is supposed to be and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01018-00270794-00271408 its involvement into this problem I've uh_X5o7sN7Y-01019-00271409-00271690 spoken yet so yourself I'll jump in you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01020-00271691-00271873 know it's interesting because my project uh_X5o7sN7Y-01021-00271874-00272020 stacked against Nathan's project shows uh_X5o7sN7Y-01022-00272021-00272218 kind of two different layers of analysis uh_X5o7sN7Y-01023-00272219-00272491 of basically the same problem and I uh_X5o7sN7Y-01024-00272492-00272691 think more evident in your work is a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01025-00272692-00272893 putting the responsibility we had a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01026-00272894-00273082 brief chat about this so I'm informed um uh_X5o7sN7Y-01027-00273083-00273442 about how in the media there's this well uh_X5o7sN7Y-01028-00273443-00273565 one the word algorithm is so it's a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01029-00273566-00273709 single thing and that we can just uh_X5o7sN7Y-01030-00273710-00273880 identify this one thing and maybe tweak uh_X5o7sN7Y-01031-00273881-00274081 it and then everything will be fixed and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01032-00274082-00274243 that does assume that there's that we uh_X5o7sN7Y-01033-00274244-00274390 know how to fix what it is that we're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01034-00274391-00274651 trying to fix and I think that that is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01035-00274652-00274870 not something that I claim to know and I uh_X5o7sN7Y-01036-00274871-00275152 would not go there but I think that for uh_X5o7sN7Y-01037-00275153-00275365 my work transparency is a word that's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01038-00275366-00275584 used as something that's lacking a lot uh_X5o7sN7Y-01039-00275585-00275773 in the in the news feeds that we get in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01040-00275774-00275899 the Google search results that we get uh_X5o7sN7Y-01041-00275900-00276103 and the algorithm set that kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01042-00276104-00276340 mediates the information that we get and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01043-00276341-00276493 so what I'm kind of trying to look at is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01044-00276494-00276775 the way that Facebook presents it to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01045-00276776-00276850 those users uh_X5o7sN7Y-01046-00276851-00277072 to see what reality they are trying to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01047-00277073-00277192 shape for them it's really interesting uh_X5o7sN7Y-01048-00277193-00277450 if you watch facebook recently had its uh_X5o7sN7Y-01049-00277451-00277576 annual conference where it spoke to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01050-00277577-00277759 marketers about the newsfeed in the news uh_X5o7sN7Y-01051-00277760-00277972 feed is all we we we and this is what we uh_X5o7sN7Y-01052-00277973-00278146 do as opposed to when you're like uh_X5o7sN7Y-01053-00278147-00278290 talking to the users and it's you you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01054-00278291-00278638 you and this is how you tweak it so part uh_X5o7sN7Y-01055-00278639-00278800 of you know my larger project is just uh_X5o7sN7Y-01056-00278801-00279001 looking at those different realities uh_X5o7sN7Y-01057-00279002-00279178 based on the audience's that they're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01058-00279179-00280065 speaking to sure uh-huh one of the like uh_X5o7sN7Y-01059-00280066-00280348 inspirations that I keep finding myself uh_X5o7sN7Y-01060-00280349-00280708 returning to in this work is all a hoax uh_X5o7sN7Y-01061-00280709-00281086 child's work on airline attendants and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01062-00281087-00281272 there was a case where like there was a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01063-00281273-00281788 clear brand driving how these attendance uh_X5o7sN7Y-01064-00281789-00282054 would handle like tough situations and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01065-00282055-00282319 hoaxes child looked at the training uh_X5o7sN7Y-01066-00282320-00282616 process that these people went through uh_X5o7sN7Y-01067-00282617-00283075 in order to not just learn what to do in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01068-00283076-00283429 tough situations but like how to be and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01069-00283430-00283720 how to amote and how to feel in those uh_X5o7sN7Y-01070-00283721-00284050 contexts and you know in that kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01071-00284051-00284203 situation where there's a like you're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01072-00284204-00284392 working for the company and you might uh_X5o7sN7Y-01073-00284393-00284782 lose your job there's a lot there's like uh_X5o7sN7Y-01074-00284783-00285013 a really strong tie at least in the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01075-00285014-00285277 hopes of the company on the expectations uh_X5o7sN7Y-01076-00285278-00285523 that those things will be very close as uh_X5o7sN7Y-01077-00285524-00285775 I look at things like the onboarding uh_X5o7sN7Y-01078-00285776-00285997 process for new moderators there are job uh_X5o7sN7Y-01079-00285998-00286318 boards on reddit where people apply and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01080-00286319-00286582 post opportunities I'm really curious uh_X5o7sN7Y-01081-00286583-00287215 because reddit has some basic rules but uh_X5o7sN7Y-01082-00287216-00287530 each subreddit also has a process where uh_X5o7sN7Y-01083-00287531-00287857 it defines what kind of norms and rules uh_X5o7sN7Y-01084-00287858-00288040 are important to it so i think i'll be uh_X5o7sN7Y-01085-00288041-00288417 paying like special attention to how uh_X5o7sN7Y-01086-00288418-00288697 moderators see themselves in relation to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01087-00288698-00288943 the kind of expectations and their uh_X5o7sN7Y-01088-00288944-00289345 vision of their subreddit as well as uh_X5o7sN7Y-01089-00289346-00289531 they're like expectation of vision of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01090-00289532-00289867 what like a reddit community would be uh_X5o7sN7Y-01091-00289868-00290246 like well to the question uh_X5o7sN7Y-01092-00290247-00290456 of what is that what is that word that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01093-00290457-00290687 we use to kind of capture what's going uh_X5o7sN7Y-01094-00290688-00290987 on between the corporate layer and the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01095-00290988-00291155 users I think there are a couple of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01096-00291156-00291377 things going on first of all that's the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01097-00291378-00291620 classic sort of you know customer uh_X5o7sN7Y-01098-00291621-00291797 feedback you know let's gather all these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01099-00291798-00292031 ideas filter them see what makes sense uh_X5o7sN7Y-01100-00292032-00292283 right and then incorporate it into our uh_X5o7sN7Y-01101-00292284-00292604 systems on the other hand there is this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01102-00292605-00292856 idea of placation we want to persuade uh_X5o7sN7Y-01103-00292857-00293216 our customers or users that you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01104-00293217-00293345 we're all in the same page this is a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01105-00293346-00293696 win-win situation you know there's no us uh_X5o7sN7Y-01106-00293697-00293879 versus them so that's part of it and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01107-00293880-00294128 then finally there's this cultivation uh_X5o7sN7Y-01108-00294129-00294290 right they just they don't just want uh_X5o7sN7Y-01109-00294291-00294500 it's not actually really about the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01110-00294501-00294665 bottom line there's more things going on uh_X5o7sN7Y-01111-00294666-00294941 saying that is kind of a flattening out uh_X5o7sN7Y-01112-00294942-00295094 what's going on they're trying to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01113-00295095-00295463 cultivate a engagement that creates a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01114-00295464-00295655 sort of dynamism they don't want people uh_X5o7sN7Y-01115-00295656-00295958 to just be happy that's not it they want uh_X5o7sN7Y-01116-00295959-00296126 people to fight they want people to you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01117-00296127-00296612 know to to discuss and even to rebel uh_X5o7sN7Y-01118-00296613-00296828 against the game itself because that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01119-00296829-00297125 discussion that's energy right that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01120-00297126-00297389 creates buzz okay so these three things uh_X5o7sN7Y-01121-00297390-00297575 I think that going on and I hope more of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01122-00297576-00297749 it will be going on that I can find out uh_X5o7sN7Y-01123-00297750-00297896 about you know it's about the course of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01124-00297897-00298289 my research if you did you want to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01125-00298290-00298580 respond to that why I guess the question uh_X5o7sN7Y-01126-00298581-00298781 wasn't directly touching on wellness uh_X5o7sN7Y-01127-00298782-00299114 programs but I guess I'll speak to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01128-00299115-00299446 walnuts programs in terms of governance uh_X5o7sN7Y-01129-00299447-00299891 so I guess some of our preoccupation uh_X5o7sN7Y-01130-00299892-00300224 with one is programs is the idea of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01131-00300225-00300506 whether they are truly voluntary because uh_X5o7sN7Y-01132-00300507-00300842 they are part of the workplace such that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01133-00300843-00301004 you know people are not necessarily uh_X5o7sN7Y-01134-00301005-00301253 voting right to say whether the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01135-00301254-00301463 workplace can have a longish program or uh_X5o7sN7Y-01136-00301464-00301688 not and people are not voting to see uh_X5o7sN7Y-01137-00301689-00302071 what shape the walnuts program will take uh_X5o7sN7Y-01138-00302072-00302389 and also a lot of the wellness program uh_X5o7sN7Y-01139-00302390-00302682 is really about shifting the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01140-00302683-00302993 responsibility right for losing weight uh_X5o7sN7Y-01141-00302994-00303344 for living a healthy life site lifestyle uh_X5o7sN7Y-01142-00303345-00303582 on to the individual worker uh_X5o7sN7Y-01143-00303583-00303840 there's not really a real discussion of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01144-00303841-00304133 whether the work infrastructure itself uh_X5o7sN7Y-01145-00304134-00304536 can be shaped to achieve the same thing uh_X5o7sN7Y-01146-00304537-00304821 so it's basically the lot of it we're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01147-00304822-00305214 seeing is really the the corporate the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01148-00305215-00305400 corporation advocating its uh_X5o7sN7Y-01149-00305401-00305667 responsibility I mean I I'm sorry uh_X5o7sN7Y-01150-00305668-00305985 abdicating right its responsibility for uh_X5o7sN7Y-01151-00305986-00306299 this for healthier worker and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01152-00306300-00306534 essentially forcing that responsibility uh_X5o7sN7Y-01153-00306535-00306771 onto the individual worker and we're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01154-00306772-00307002 worried about what that means right if uh_X5o7sN7Y-01155-00307003-00307380 the individual worker is in a wellness uh_X5o7sN7Y-01156-00307381-00307707 program easier than a sense that that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01157-00307708-00308088 worker must become healthy even given uh_X5o7sN7Y-01158-00308089-00308313 the structural constraints to becoming uh_X5o7sN7Y-01159-00308314-00308634 healthier even with those presents and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01160-00308635-00308928 not really addressed and what does that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01161-00308929-00309252 mean for workplace discrimination based uh_X5o7sN7Y-01162-00309253-00309516 on data based on healthy isn't right uh_X5o7sN7Y-01163-00309517-00309897 based on obesity based on smoking so in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01164-00309898-00310121 my course of my research actually found uh_X5o7sN7Y-01165-00310122-00310425 that in about five states in America uh_X5o7sN7Y-01166-00310426-00310749 it's perfectly okay for your employer to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01167-00310750-00311070 fire you if your smoker outside the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01168-00311071-00311352 workplace so you're not smoking in the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01169-00311353-00311565 workplace and perhaps it doesn't impact uh_X5o7sN7Y-01170-00311566-00311826 your job but if they have this data on uh_X5o7sN7Y-01171-00311827-00312081 you which they can acquire through uh_X5o7sN7Y-01172-00312082-00312336 wellness programs they can that is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01173-00312337-00312609 actionable data for them to fire you and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01174-00312610-00312888 you would have no legal redress so these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01175-00312889-00313149 things are concerning and I think it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01176-00313150-00313314 important that we continue to discuss uh_X5o7sN7Y-01177-00313315-00313605 this because you know they had perhaps uh_X5o7sN7Y-01178-00313606-00313956 is an issue of coercion attached to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01179-00313957-00314187 wellness programs when you think that a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01180-00314188-00314495 lot of the ways they get people to join uh_X5o7sN7Y-01181-00314496-00314826 our through incentives and the EOC uh_X5o7sN7Y-01182-00314827-00315057 recently passed several rules saying uh_X5o7sN7Y-01183-00315058-00315327 that they can do up to thirty percent of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01184-00315328-00315648 the premium as an incentive and up to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01185-00315649-00315894 fifty percent of the premium evidence as uh_X5o7sN7Y-01186-00315895-00316080 an incentive for smoking cessation uh_X5o7sN7Y-01187-00316081-00316592 programs so obviously this becomes not a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01188-00316593-00316788 negligent amount of money if you're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01189-00316789-00316906 thinking uh_X5o7sN7Y-01190-00316907-00317086 uh you know to two thousand three uh_X5o7sN7Y-01191-00317087-00317388 thousand dollars can I jump the queue uh_X5o7sN7Y-01192-00317389-00317578 polite a question is popped in my head uh_X5o7sN7Y-01193-00317579-00317887 it seems like in every one of your cases uh_X5o7sN7Y-01194-00317888-00318304 there is maybe an implicit appeal that a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01195-00318305-00318877 social need or desire work outside of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01196-00318878-00319105 market demands so each of these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01197-00319106-00319261 corporate settings has a particular uh_X5o7sN7Y-01198-00319262-00319756 vested interest in being able to keep uh_X5o7sN7Y-01199-00319757-00319906 players playing a particular way I keep uh_X5o7sN7Y-01200-00319907-00320136 the news feeds functioning as they are uh_X5o7sN7Y-01201-00320137-00320458 and I think for both your cases for for uh_X5o7sN7Y-01202-00320459-00320611 Nathan ethio m'a there there are these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01203-00320612-00320923 clear cases where market demands say the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01204-00320924-00321163 corporation has a vested interest in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01205-00321164-00321382 doing something different than what the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01206-00321383-00321613 players or the participants might want uh_X5o7sN7Y-01207-00321614-00321832 yet there seems to be this sense that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01208-00321833-00322057 that we would why is it that we're still uh_X5o7sN7Y-01209-00322058-00322452 seeking a certain kind of social uh_X5o7sN7Y-01210-00322453-00322873 prioritization or social good from a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01211-00322874-00323098 corporation what what what is it that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01212-00323099-00323311 sends us in the direction of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01213-00323312-00323611 corporation as kind of hopeful citizens uh_X5o7sN7Y-01214-00323612-00323758 of sorts of Rebecca your question is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01215-00323759-00323974 really interesting in that regard so for uh_X5o7sN7Y-01216-00323975-00324145 for your different projects have you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01217-00324146-00324337 gotten a sense of why it is that the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01218-00324338-00324793 participants see the CEO or other you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01219-00324794-00325024 know the court the company as the site uh_X5o7sN7Y-01220-00325025-00325282 of recourse for this desire for a social uh_X5o7sN7Y-01221-00325283-00325657 really extra market need yeah I think uh_X5o7sN7Y-01222-00325658-00325813 that's one of the most interesting uh_X5o7sN7Y-01223-00325814-00325999 things I've seen so far in my very early uh_X5o7sN7Y-01224-00326000-00326203 analysis of the the comments is that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01225-00326204-00326467 there is this inherent expectation by uh_X5o7sN7Y-01226-00326468-00326683 the users that Facebook somehow be uh_X5o7sN7Y-01227-00326684-00326884 truthful or somehow what they're doing uh_X5o7sN7Y-01228-00326885-00327100 isn't when they're not showing them all uh_X5o7sN7Y-01229-00327101-00327289 of their friends in their feet and this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01230-00327290-00327469 this has been shown by research that has uh_X5o7sN7Y-01231-00327470-00327631 been done on the newsfeed by Christian uh_X5o7sN7Y-01232-00327632-00327925 sandvig and others well in very early in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01233-00327926-00328033 this work and that's why it's a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01234-00328034-00328162 Tarleton's questions like we don't know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01235-00328163-00328534 what we have yet and so what we do know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01236-00328535-00328702 is that the work that's been done and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01237-00328703-00328864 shown that users are somewhat confused uh_X5o7sN7Y-01238-00328865-00329068 some of them feel like they're being uh_X5o7sN7Y-01239-00329069-00329251 lied to when they don't know that not uh_X5o7sN7Y-01240-00329252-00329452 all their friends are showing up and the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01241-00329453-00329590 title of that paper is great it's like I uh_X5o7sN7Y-01242-00329591-00329725 just thought that person didn't like me uh_X5o7sN7Y-01243-00329726-00330064 something to that effect and so this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01244-00330065-00330190 this shows for me uh_X5o7sN7Y-01245-00330191-00330523 that these users in this study rely on uh_X5o7sN7Y-01246-00330524-00330664 facebook to maintain personal uh_X5o7sN7Y-01247-00330665-00330889 connections and they have assumptions uh_X5o7sN7Y-01248-00330890-00331045 about what's happening and when they're uh_X5o7sN7Y-01249-00331046-00331165 not meeting those assumptions and they uh_X5o7sN7Y-01250-00331166-00331417 feel you know a sense of anger at what's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01251-00331418-00332070 occurring well in the case of eve online uh_X5o7sN7Y-01252-00332071-00332452 users or players look to the company for uh_X5o7sN7Y-01253-00332453-00332662 a kind of social justice if you will uh_X5o7sN7Y-01254-00332663-00333022 because the company thinks that it makes uh_X5o7sN7Y-01255-00333023-00333289 good business sense right there's a very uh_X5o7sN7Y-01256-00333290-00333550 fine line between wanting to please your uh_X5o7sN7Y-01257-00333551-00333925 user wanting to take the votes at face uh_X5o7sN7Y-01258-00333926-00334300 value and then redesigning the system by uh_X5o7sN7Y-01259-00334301-00334723 in a way adapting those adapting mass uh_X5o7sN7Y-01260-00334724-00335026 player will so on one hand they have to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01261-00335027-00335334 give them what they want right otherwise uh_X5o7sN7Y-01262-00335335-00335488 they would rage quit or they would just uh_X5o7sN7Y-01263-00335489-00335703 exit from the system but on the other uh_X5o7sN7Y-01264-00335704-00335931 hand they have to sort of you know come uh_X5o7sN7Y-01265-00335932-00336340 up with something new so it's a it's a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01266-00336341-00336562 fine balance that they have to strike in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01267-00336563-00337653 that um in that way so I think maybe the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01268-00337654-00337972 cases of wikipedian reddit are counter uh_X5o7sN7Y-01269-00337973-00338604 examples to Eve or Facebook in that my uh_X5o7sN7Y-01270-00338605-00338805 impression from what I've read so far is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01271-00338806-00339110 that like in the case of Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-01272-00339111-00339482 people who are participants and active uh_X5o7sN7Y-01273-00339483-00339841 contributors like do like have this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01274-00339842-00340171 sense that it is a public good that by uh_X5o7sN7Y-01275-00340172-00340458 donating to it and buy it not being a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01276-00340459-00340594 corporation and having all of these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01277-00340595-00340771 structures of governance like elected uh_X5o7sN7Y-01278-00340772-00341031 Wikipedians on the foundation's board uh_X5o7sN7Y-01279-00341032-00341398 and other things that it is to some uh_X5o7sN7Y-01280-00341399-00341826 degree accountable to its participants uh_X5o7sN7Y-01281-00341827-00342163 where it gets tricky is when people who uh_X5o7sN7Y-01282-00342164-00342445 aren't contributors to Wikipedia find uh_X5o7sN7Y-01283-00342446-00342759 themselves affected by the power of this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01284-00342760-00343093 very unusual thing which is when they uh_X5o7sN7Y-01285-00343094-00343465 sometimes turn to like who they imagine uh_X5o7sN7Y-01286-00343466-00343573 they might need to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01287-00343574-00343765 to like following classic scripts of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01288-00343766-00343981 holding power accountable I think in the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01289-00343982-00344247 case of reddit there's a lot of tension uh_X5o7sN7Y-01290-00344248-00344695 in that intention that's become very uh_X5o7sN7Y-01291-00344696-00344962 visible in the last week when read it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01292-00344963-00345183 for the first time started banning uh_X5o7sN7Y-01293-00345184-00345526 particular subreddits for the kinds of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01294-00345527-00345793 conversations and behavior that they saw uh_X5o7sN7Y-01295-00345794-00346185 on the site and you know for a long time uh_X5o7sN7Y-01296-00346186-00346459 they've seen write it as a place that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01297-00346460-00346756 has more or less hands-off policy over uh_X5o7sN7Y-01298-00346757-00347017 what is appearing on reddit there are uh_X5o7sN7Y-01299-00347018-00347323 competing business models in the site uh_X5o7sN7Y-01300-00347324-00347641 one which is advertising driven one uh_X5o7sN7Y-01301-00347642-00347980 which is based on users actually paying uh_X5o7sN7Y-01302-00347981-00348253 the company for various perks and to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01303-00348254-00348489 literally when you pay for reddit gold uh_X5o7sN7Y-01304-00348490-00348820 you're like if you meet the days uh_X5o7sN7Y-01305-00348821-00349090 challenge there's a new server added to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01306-00349091-00349309 the farm so it's very much a kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01307-00349310-00349576 membership drive style thing and it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01308-00349577-00349756 gives you the ability to exchange gifts uh_X5o7sN7Y-01309-00349757-00349972 with other redditors and I think that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01310-00349973-00350296 this debate over the role of moderators uh_X5o7sN7Y-01311-00350297-00350572 and what power they have in contrast uh_X5o7sN7Y-01312-00350573-00350776 with the company is at the heart of this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01313-00350777-00350968 question of what it means for reddit to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01314-00350969-00351172 be a corporation or whether it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01315-00351173-00351652 imagined to something else pass this is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01316-00351653-00351853 Stacey sushi I wanted to add one other uh_X5o7sN7Y-01317-00351854-00352006 thing I've been reading some of the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01318-00352007-00352117 comments in the ones i have seen have uh_X5o7sN7Y-01319-00352118-00352267 been all why are you doing this to me uh_X5o7sN7Y-01320-00352268-00352456 and i want to point out it's easy to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01321-00352457-00352597 fall in that trap of only looking at the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01322-00352598-00352819 negative but there are a lot of comments uh_X5o7sN7Y-01323-00352820-00352996 as well where people say this is great i uh_X5o7sN7Y-01324-00352997-00353098 have to be friends with this person uh_X5o7sN7Y-01325-00353099-00353278 because of this relationship but i don't uh_X5o7sN7Y-01326-00353279-00353416 want to see anything that they post and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01327-00353417-00353788 so these these companies are in this you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01328-00353789-00354019 know unique position of how do how do we uh_X5o7sN7Y-01329-00354020-00354256 best make our customers happy give them uh_X5o7sN7Y-01330-00354257-00354415 the information they want and and so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01331-00354416-00354612 looking at how they do that is not uh_X5o7sN7Y-01332-00354613-00354853 unique you know this is obviously goes uh_X5o7sN7Y-01333-00354854-00354988 in the early days of journalism and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01334-00354989-00355110 throughout that all that history of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01335-00355111-00355369 gatekeeping and so on but what's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01336-00355370-00355477 different about it is we don't know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01337-00355478-00355600 necessarily how they're doing this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01338-00355601-00355837 process and so that's where you get uh_X5o7sN7Y-01339-00355838-00356050 users confusion and sometimes anger but uh_X5o7sN7Y-01340-00356051-00356206 oftentimes you also get users are very uh_X5o7sN7Y-01341-00356207-00356389 satisfied with the product as well so in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01342-00356390-00356695 fairness I wanted to throw that up uh_X5o7sN7Y-01343-00356696-00356989 well together to your original question uh_X5o7sN7Y-01344-00356990-00357450 about how we are essentially I'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-01345-00357451-00357793 relinquishing write the solution for a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01346-00357794-00358144 social good to corporations um I think uh_X5o7sN7Y-01347-00358145-00358516 it's really a classic example of trying uh_X5o7sN7Y-01348-00358517-00358918 to fix a complex problem with a simple uh_X5o7sN7Y-01349-00358919-00359197 solution and thinking that simple uh_X5o7sN7Y-01350-00359198-00359412 solution is some sort of panacea right uh_X5o7sN7Y-01351-00359413-00359955 and the complex problem that we see uh_X5o7sN7Y-01352-00359956-00360223 walnuts programs attempting to address uh_X5o7sN7Y-01353-00360224-00360493 really is that as Americans our uh_X5o7sN7Y-01354-00360494-00360955 lifestyle is unhealthy we sit a lot you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01355-00360956-00361147 know sitting is the new smoking as they uh_X5o7sN7Y-01356-00361148-00361552 say we eat a lot and not of the right uh_X5o7sN7Y-01357-00361553-00361819 things right we don't exercise a lot uh_X5o7sN7Y-01358-00361820-00362011 because we don't have time we're working uh_X5o7sN7Y-01359-00362012-00362353 eight to 12 hour days so this is a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01360-00362354-00362800 complex lifestyle problem it's a complex uh_X5o7sN7Y-01361-00362801-00363055 infrastructure problem the way our uh_X5o7sN7Y-01362-00363056-00363364 cities are designed the way our suburbs uh_X5o7sN7Y-01363-00363365-00363733 are designed so such that we're now uh_X5o7sN7Y-01364-00363734-00363910 trying to fix it with something as uh_X5o7sN7Y-01365-00363911-00364213 simple as a wellness program there is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01366-00364214-00364507 going to be issues right it's not uh_X5o7sN7Y-01367-00364508-00364726 necessarily going to have the intended uh_X5o7sN7Y-01368-00364727-00365074 results and what worries me most I guess uh_X5o7sN7Y-01369-00365075-00365506 as as a lawyer is the unintended results uh_X5o7sN7Y-01370-00365507-00365941 which are loss of privacy and also the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01371-00365942-00366133 new avenues for discrimination in the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01372-00366134-00366481 workplace because here's the thing the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01373-00366482-00366667 anti-discrimination laws we currently uh_X5o7sN7Y-01374-00366668-00367197 have they don't really address obesity uh_X5o7sN7Y-01375-00367198-00367437 discrimination they don't really address uh_X5o7sN7Y-01376-00367438-00367858 smoking discrimination so if we're have uh_X5o7sN7Y-01377-00367859-00368068 wellness programs that are really uh_X5o7sN7Y-01378-00368069-00368575 centering those behaviors as problematic uh_X5o7sN7Y-01379-00368576-00369016 or as pathological what does that mean uh_X5o7sN7Y-01380-00369017-00369187 for the worker what does that mean for uh_X5o7sN7Y-01381-00369188-00369603 the rights of the worker uh_X5o7sN7Y-01382-00369604-00370395 I mean time check are we okay on time hi uh_X5o7sN7Y-01383-00370396-00370741 I'm Nick Seaver I'm from UC Irvine these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01384-00370742-00370896 are all super interesting projects so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01385-00370897-00371124 thank you for for sharing in one thread uh_X5o7sN7Y-01386-00371125-00371316 that seems to sort of link a lot of them uh_X5o7sN7Y-01387-00371317-00371607 is an interest in what is happening to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01388-00371608-00371883 different sorts of collective kinds so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01389-00371884-00372099 we have like crowds and publix and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01390-00372100-00372391 councils and work forces and user bases uh_X5o7sN7Y-01391-00372392-00372501 and all of these different kinds of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01392-00372502-00372790 groups and I'm wondering how much you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01393-00372791-00372937 guys see and I think this has sort of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01394-00372938-00373104 been latent some the questions so far uh_X5o7sN7Y-01395-00373105-00373323 how much you guys see your your role is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01396-00373324-00373632 being to identify the particularity zuv uh_X5o7sN7Y-01397-00373633-00373848 those kinds of things right what what uh_X5o7sN7Y-01398-00373849-00374019 does it mean to be a user base or does uh_X5o7sN7Y-01399-00374020-00374229 it mean to be a user base now what does uh_X5o7sN7Y-01400-00374230-00374370 it mean to be a council what does mean uh_X5o7sN7Y-01401-00374371-00374595 to be a council now in eve that sort of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01402-00374596-00374760 thing because what I've had a problem uh_X5o7sN7Y-01403-00374761-00375084 with my own work is not doing that and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01404-00375085-00375252 then landing in a place where I'm sort uh_X5o7sN7Y-01405-00375253-00375466 of implicitly endorsing some kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01406-00375467-00375582 collective kind that I'm just pretending uh_X5o7sN7Y-01407-00375583-00375810 is the natural way it ought to be as uh_X5o7sN7Y-01408-00375811-00375984 opposed to you know some sort of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01409-00375985-00376557 historically particular thing right I've uh_X5o7sN7Y-01410-00376558-00376714 been having that problem as well this is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01411-00376715-00376929 a question of you know is it the same or uh_X5o7sN7Y-01412-00376930-00377223 is it different right and what is what uh_X5o7sN7Y-01413-00377224-00377515 is the what is the value of comparing it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01414-00377516-00377748 to things that have come in the past uh_X5o7sN7Y-01415-00377749-00377847 like for example you know especially uh_X5o7sN7Y-01416-00377848-00378021 with reality television you know I just uh_X5o7sN7Y-01417-00378022-00378201 thought about this you know yesterday oh uh_X5o7sN7Y-01418-00378202-00378364 wow you know there's this there's this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01419-00378365-00378603 phenomena that's actually so similar in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01420-00378604-00378862 many ways and yet something feels uh_X5o7sN7Y-01421-00378863-00379063 different and I think thinking about uh_X5o7sN7Y-01422-00379064-00379254 that feeling of different at least you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01423-00379255-00379392 know at this stage of the research uh_X5o7sN7Y-01424-00379393-00379656 process is really useful because what it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01425-00379657-00379912 gives us a chance to think about is not uh_X5o7sN7Y-01426-00379913-00380220 just in my case at least how is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01427-00380221-00380423 democracy changing or how a society uh_X5o7sN7Y-01428-00380424-00380754 changing but how are the meanings of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01429-00380755-00381033 consumption changing and it really is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01430-00381034-00381254 changing think about you know being a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01431-00381255-00381589 videogame consumer 20 years ago and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01432-00381590-00381810 think about being it today in a game uh_X5o7sN7Y-01433-00381811-00381996 like eve online or even in a game like uh_X5o7sN7Y-01434-00381997-00382227 habbo hotel you could do so many more uh_X5o7sN7Y-01435-00382228-00382390 things you know you're expected to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01436-00382391-00382548 engage you're expected to make friends uh_X5o7sN7Y-01437-00382549-00382765 you're expected to you know to you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01438-00382766-00382904 build an empire have uh_X5o7sN7Y-01439-00382905-00383081 a lot of money you know otherwise what uh_X5o7sN7Y-01440-00383082-00383168 are you gonna do you're not really uh_X5o7sN7Y-01441-00383169-00383348 playing the game people going to ask you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01442-00383349-00383501 how long have you been playing you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01443-00383502-00383690 what kind of player are you all these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01444-00383691-00383923 notions of identity as sort of you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01445-00383924-00384221 foisted on us in a way I'm a researcher uh_X5o7sN7Y-01446-00384222-00384446 and people ask me so you play eve what uh_X5o7sN7Y-01447-00384447-00384632 are you doing Eve as if that's my second uh_X5o7sN7Y-01448-00384633-00385025 career no it's not I have a career so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01449-00385026-00385208 yeah I think that's a question that I uh_X5o7sN7Y-01450-00385209-00385367 asked and from you know using the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01451-00385368-00385499 methodologies that I have which are uh_X5o7sN7Y-01452-00385500-00385703 interpretive that is the best kind of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01453-00385704-00385883 question that I can have and then build uh_X5o7sN7Y-01454-00385884-00386081 it out to the system level how does this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01455-00386082-00386312 then from this perspective how does this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01456-00386313-00386854 jigsaw piece connect to the rest of it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01457-00386855-00387152 why I think the historical context is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01458-00387153-00387512 really important and for me I think of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01459-00387513-00387770 that in terms of defining what a worker uh_X5o7sN7Y-01460-00387771-00388073 is today right and you know that's also uh_X5o7sN7Y-01461-00388074-00388379 defining the group and looking at and I uh_X5o7sN7Y-01462-00388380-00388775 think what is a defining thing for the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01463-00388776-00388937 group that we're looking at is the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01464-00388938-00389210 technology available so workplace uh_X5o7sN7Y-01465-00389211-00389597 surveillance is not new right from when uh_X5o7sN7Y-01466-00389598-00389845 there was division of labor they also uh_X5o7sN7Y-01467-00389846-00390188 arose to need to surveil the workers to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01468-00390189-00390413 make sure that they doing what you want uh_X5o7sN7Y-01469-00390414-00390641 them to do and in a timely manner it is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01470-00390642-00390914 you know they're not malingering but uh_X5o7sN7Y-01471-00390915-00391205 what is new is the advances in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01472-00391206-00391505 technology right that have now enabled uh_X5o7sN7Y-01473-00391506-00391871 us to survey and track the worker in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01474-00391872-00392069 ways that were previously unimaginable uh_X5o7sN7Y-01475-00392070-00392432 and that is collapsing or keeps uh_X5o7sN7Y-01476-00392433-00392696 collapsing the line between work and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01477-00392697-00392972 non-work so recently there was a case uh_X5o7sN7Y-01478-00392973-00393284 where a woman was fired from her job and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01479-00393285-00393569 she sued because she was fired for her uh_X5o7sN7Y-01480-00393570-00393887 job from her job for deleting an app on uh_X5o7sN7Y-01481-00393888-00394232 her phone that was tracking her and when uh_X5o7sN7Y-01482-00394233-00394430 she signed up for the job she was told uh_X5o7sN7Y-01483-00394431-00394598 about this app so here's the thing it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01484-00394599-00394889 supposedly transparent what she was not uh_X5o7sN7Y-01485-00394890-00395120 told was that the app could never be uh_X5o7sN7Y-01486-00395121-00395525 turned off such that even when she had uh_X5o7sN7Y-01487-00395526-00395792 finished work and turned off the app it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01488-00395793-00396122 was still on and her boss could track uh_X5o7sN7Y-01489-00396123-00396245 her every movement uh_X5o7sN7Y-01490-00396246-00396482 no legally track her every movement he uh_X5o7sN7Y-01491-00396483-00396773 felt it was a power play to tell her uh_X5o7sN7Y-01492-00396774-00397157 exactly how much of her movements she uh_X5o7sN7Y-01493-00397158-00397439 was tracking including how fast she was uh_X5o7sN7Y-01494-00397440-00397654 driving where she went over the weekend uh_X5o7sN7Y-01495-00397655-00398008 etc so obviously this is a huge uh_X5o7sN7Y-01496-00398009-00398353 intrusion on privacy and I'm a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01497-00398354-00398807 previously really unforeseen one you uh_X5o7sN7Y-01498-00398808-00399170 know before we have such technologies so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01499-00399171-00399602 now really we have to redefine what it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01500-00399603-00399842 means to be a worker in our society uh_X5o7sN7Y-01501-00399843-00400444 given all the technological advancements uh_X5o7sN7Y-01502-00400445-00400979 so your question about you know what is uh_X5o7sN7Y-01503-00400980-00401141 it when we talk about like crowds or uh_X5o7sN7Y-01504-00401142-00401369 groups I think is one that really uh_X5o7sN7Y-01505-00401370-00401600 plagues the kind of research that I'm uh_X5o7sN7Y-01506-00401601-00401945 doing Kevin Driscoll and I who share an uh_X5o7sN7Y-01507-00401946-00402245 office have been having this debate uh_X5o7sN7Y-01508-00402246-00402892 around BBS's like we tend to talk about uh_X5o7sN7Y-01509-00402893-00403142 technologies and the users of a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01510-00403143-00403376 particular technology as if they are uh_X5o7sN7Y-01511-00403377-00403856 some kind of like a group that we can uh_X5o7sN7Y-01512-00403857-00404045 identify with common interests and goals uh_X5o7sN7Y-01513-00404046-00404441 and people you know talk about Twitter uh_X5o7sN7Y-01514-00404442-00404705 in that way people talk about Wikipedia uh_X5o7sN7Y-01515-00404706-00404954 in that way they talk about reddit in uh_X5o7sN7Y-01516-00404955-00405449 that way for sure and you know within uh_X5o7sN7Y-01517-00405450-00405770 those you know platforms and in the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01518-00405771-00405902 conversations that people and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01519-00405903-00406106 relationship people have outside of them uh_X5o7sN7Y-01520-00406107-00406352 like their identities and communities uh_X5o7sN7Y-01521-00406353-00406604 are constituted in a huge variety of uh_X5o7sN7Y-01522-00406605-00406975 ways I think what brings them together uh_X5o7sN7Y-01523-00406976-00407405 at the point of moderation is that there uh_X5o7sN7Y-01524-00407406-00407597 are some of these common expectations uh_X5o7sN7Y-01525-00407598-00408002 that the moderators are having to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01526-00408003-00408341 negotiate there are common tools that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01527-00408342-00408656 they're using and they're having to uh_X5o7sN7Y-01528-00408657-00409052 figure out how to like work at that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01529-00409053-00409360 intersection between what you know a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01530-00409361-00409632 company with less than hundred employees uh_X5o7sN7Y-01531-00409633-00409925 is defining as the space of their work uh_X5o7sN7Y-01532-00409926-00410445 and the vast multiplicity of communities uh_X5o7sN7Y-01533-00410446-00410628 that relating to and you know I think we uh_X5o7sN7Y-01534-00410629-00411110 have yet to find the language to like uh_X5o7sN7Y-01535-00411112-00411362 talk about those things really clearly uh_X5o7sN7Y-01536-00411363-00411710 and I'm very very open to like hearing uh_X5o7sN7Y-01537-00411712-00411888 people's suggestions I think there's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01538-00411889-00412188 also an aspect of work in this project uh_X5o7sN7Y-01539-00412189-00412617 as well like in past egos research on uh_X5o7sN7Y-01540-00412618-00412934 AOL community leaders in the 90s found uh_X5o7sN7Y-01541-00412935-00413318 that the more AOL did to kind of control uh_X5o7sN7Y-01542-00413320-00413882 and track and standardized how its uh_X5o7sN7Y-01543-00413883-00414174 community volunteers did their uh_X5o7sN7Y-01544-00414175-00414464 moderation the more those people thought uh_X5o7sN7Y-01545-00414466-00414870 of themselves as a like collective the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01546-00414871-00415032 more they felt like they were workers uh_X5o7sN7Y-01547-00415033-00415272 that were uncommon sated so there's a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01548-00415272-00415596 sense in which these volunteers like are uh_X5o7sN7Y-01549-00415597-00415784 able to do this volunteer work or like uh_X5o7sN7Y-01550-00415785-00416025 feel perhaps feel motivated to do this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01551-00416026-00416207 volunteer work precisely because they uh_X5o7sN7Y-01552-00416208-00416576 don't think of themselves as like reddit uh_X5o7sN7Y-01553-00416577-00416778 employees and those are questions that uh_X5o7sN7Y-01554-00416779-00416972 I'll be untangling as I look at their uh_X5o7sN7Y-01555-00416974-00417197 onboarding process their gripes the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01556-00417199-00417345 challenges that they face in this uh_X5o7sN7Y-01557-00417346-00417635 moderation work for me a really uh_X5o7sN7Y-01558-00417637-00417822 influential work was Marvin's when old uh_X5o7sN7Y-01559-00417822-00418170 technologies renew and it's an amazing uh_X5o7sN7Y-01560-00418171-00418359 look at technologies through history and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01561-00418360-00418585 how people reacted to them and so for me uh_X5o7sN7Y-01562-00418587-00418839 that's what I'm interested in I feel uh_X5o7sN7Y-01563-00418839-00419018 like we're in this lucky time where as uh_X5o7sN7Y-01564-00419020-00419199 you mentioned nothing is new like the uh_X5o7sN7Y-01565-00419200-00419316 more you do research the more you learn uh_X5o7sN7Y-01566-00419317-00419430 nothing is new this is just a new uh_X5o7sN7Y-01567-00419431-00419672 iteration of something and I feel it's uh_X5o7sN7Y-01568-00419674-00419862 it's a fortunate time to be alive in a uh_X5o7sN7Y-01569-00419863-00420045 researcher and looking at how people are uh_X5o7sN7Y-01570-00420046-00420204 starting to make sense of these things uh_X5o7sN7Y-01571-00420205-00420384 that are mediating so many of their uh_X5o7sN7Y-01572-00420385-00420546 communications my larger dissertation uh_X5o7sN7Y-01573-00420547-00420750 work moves be on Facebook and looks at uh_X5o7sN7Y-01574-00420751-00420933 algorithms in a bigger picture so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01575-00420934-00421047 whenever you're getting information uh_X5o7sN7Y-01576-00421047-00421320 presented to you Twitter Google Facebook uh_X5o7sN7Y-01577-00421321-00421622 and so on how do we make sense of these uh_X5o7sN7Y-01578-00421624-00422010 and so for me the user base question so uh_X5o7sN7Y-01579-00422010-00422193 far I haven't necessarily answered but uh_X5o7sN7Y-01580-00422193-00422343 I'm more interested in society and uh_X5o7sN7Y-01581-00422343-00422538 looking at it from a different you know uh_X5o7sN7Y-01582-00422539-00422778 broader picture i supposes to a specific uh_X5o7sN7Y-01583-00422779-00422997 user base but more or less this technol uh_X5o7sN7Y-01584-00422997-00423216 oh gee in this mechanism this mediation uh_X5o7sN7Y-01585-00423217-00424049 that's happening how do we understand it uh_X5o7sN7Y-01586-00424050-00424664 okay perfect we're good on time so with uh_X5o7sN7Y-01587-00424666-00426225 that thank you everyone uh_X5o7sN7Y-01588-00426226-00426432 you ujcr_4Awxz8-00000-00000119-00000318 okay then let's take it ujcr_4Awxz8-00001-00000319-00000790 that your relationship is breaking up ujcr_4Awxz8-00002-00000791-00001183 and you are completely shattered ujcr_4Awxz8-00003-00001184-00001495 if you have bipolar borderline ujcr_4Awxz8-00004-00001496-00001791 you suffer with depression panic it's ujcr_4Awxz8-00005-00001792-00001902 possibly going ujcr_4Awxz8-00006-00001903-00002255 right off the charts and that is ujcr_4Awxz8-00007-00002256-00002591 part of what our disorders do any kind ujcr_4Awxz8-00008-00002592-00002702 of stress ujcr_4Awxz8-00009-00002703-00003015 like a breakup or a divorce ujcr_4Awxz8-00010-00003016-00003295 is on one of the top three worst things ujcr_4Awxz8-00011-00003296-00003431 that can happen ujcr_4Awxz8-00012-00003432-00003759 to anybody so if you're suffering with ujcr_4Awxz8-00013-00003760-00003927 the mental health problem ujcr_4Awxz8-00014-00003928-00004295 it's even harder so ujcr_4Awxz8-00015-00004296-00004711 you are i know very distressed ujcr_4Awxz8-00016-00004712-00004951 if your relationship's breaking up but ujcr_4Awxz8-00017-00004952-00005254 here's something that we tend to do ujcr_4Awxz8-00018-00005255-00005543 and it's not just people with bipolar or ujcr_4Awxz8-00019-00005544-00005735 borderline that do this ujcr_4Awxz8-00020-00005736-00006038 this tends to happen across the board ujcr_4Awxz8-00021-00006039-00006343 and that is when a person's ujcr_4Awxz8-00022-00006344-00006710 leaving us when we are being dumped ujcr_4Awxz8-00023-00006711-00007103 we start to think how ujcr_4Awxz8-00024-00007104-00007414 perfect that person was for us and how ujcr_4Awxz8-00025-00007415-00007478 loving ujcr_4Awxz8-00026-00007479-00007798 he or she was and how they brought us ujcr_4Awxz8-00027-00007800-00008127 beautiful gifts or roses or took us out ujcr_4Awxz8-00028-00008128-00008271 for dinner and ujcr_4Awxz8-00029-00008272-00008559 how they laughed at our jokes and and ujcr_4Awxz8-00030-00008560-00008646 and ujcr_4Awxz8-00031-00008647-00008991 so we only remember all the lovely ujcr_4Awxz8-00032-00008992-00009103 things ujcr_4Awxz8-00033-00009104-00009463 about the person who is leaving us ujcr_4Awxz8-00034-00009464-00009783 we also if borderline are feeling ujcr_4Awxz8-00035-00009784-00010159 terribly rejected and abandoned which ujcr_4Awxz8-00036-00010160-00010503 compounds on that because then it's ujcr_4Awxz8-00037-00010504-00010823 oh my god i'm so worthless ujcr_4Awxz8-00038-00010824-00010999 you know why would they want to be with ujcr_4Awxz8-00039-00011000-00011142 me anyway ujcr_4Awxz8-00040-00011143-00011446 and i'm really worthless i'm not ujcr_4Awxz8-00041-00011447-00011814 much am i i mean if if if this loving ujcr_4Awxz8-00042-00011815-00011910 person ujcr_4Awxz8-00043-00011911-00012238 could leave me with so much love in ujcr_4Awxz8-00044-00012239-00012335 their hearts ujcr_4Awxz8-00045-00012336-00012663 what the hell i must be a monster ujcr_4Awxz8-00046-00012664-00013071 it's not true so stop all that ujcr_4Awxz8-00047-00013072-00013391 know that it's the disorder what ujcr_4Awxz8-00048-00013391-00013663 we're going to do here is we're going to ujcr_4Awxz8-00049-00013663-00013815 help you ujcr_4Awxz8-00050-00013816-00014230 to hold your heart together ujcr_4Awxz8-00051-00014231-00014647 mend your heart you do not have to share ujcr_4Awxz8-00052-00014647-00014863 what you write down with anybody and ujcr_4Awxz8-00053-00014863-00015111 it's possibly best you don't ujcr_4Awxz8-00054-00015112-00015479 but the only way to heal people ujcr_4Awxz8-00055-00015480-00015807 who love fiercely ujcr_4Awxz8-00056-00015808-00016166 are the people who can heal the easier ujcr_4Awxz8-00057-00016168-00016647 the easiest not easy the easiest ujcr_4Awxz8-00058-00016648-00016927 so remember you've got exact opposites ujcr_4Awxz8-00059-00016928-00017022 there ujcr_4Awxz8-00060-00017023-00017383 so if you're capable of loving somebody ujcr_4Awxz8-00061-00017384-00017727 heart and soul you know that you're also ujcr_4Awxz8-00062-00017728-00017830 capable ujcr_4Awxz8-00063-00017831-00018150 of healing heart and soul ujcr_4Awxz8-00064-00018151-00018455 so that's a good thing so what you need ujcr_4Awxz8-00065-00018456-00018630 to do now is take a good ujcr_4Awxz8-00066-00018631-00018943 honest look an objective look ujcr_4Awxz8-00067-00018944-00019255 step over yourself and write down ujcr_4Awxz8-00068-00019256-00019630 what did that person do for me ujcr_4Awxz8-00069-00019631-00020039 that made me unhappy ujcr_4Awxz8-00070-00020040-00020230 you've probably never looked at that ujcr_4Awxz8-00071-00020231-00020422 you've probably never even thought about ujcr_4Awxz8-00072-00020423-00020486 that ujcr_4Awxz8-00073-00020487-00020743 and in fact when things have happened in ujcr_4Awxz8-00074-00020744-00020894 the past ujcr_4Awxz8-00075-00020895-00021230 you've never put it down to hey ujcr_4Awxz8-00076-00021231-00021614 this person is making me really unhappy ujcr_4Awxz8-00077-00021615-00022014 or feeling embarrassed humiliated ujcr_4Awxz8-00078-00022015-00022319 perhaps emotionally abusing me ujcr_4Awxz8-00079-00022320-00022607 perhaps calling me terrible names and ujcr_4Awxz8-00080-00022608-00022799 perhaps sometimes ujcr_4Awxz8-00081-00022800-00023175 i felt i deserved those names ujcr_4Awxz8-00082-00023176-00023407 specifically i will say if you have ujcr_4Awxz8-00083-00023408-00023591 bipolar or borderline ujcr_4Awxz8-00084-00023592-00023830 you tend to think well yeah you know ujcr_4Awxz8-00085-00023831-00024111 we're not worth much but you are ujcr_4Awxz8-00086-00024112-00024486 worth much and you're worth more ujcr_4Awxz8-00087-00024487-00024727 i'll tell you what guys if you write it ujcr_4Awxz8-00088-00024728-00024878 down ujcr_4Awxz8-00089-00024879-00025191 just one thing start just ujcr_4Awxz8-00090-00025192-00025519 one thing what did that person do ujcr_4Awxz8-00091-00025520-00025911 that made me unhappy but i lived with it ujcr_4Awxz8-00092-00025912-00026127 because i didn't want to end the ujcr_4Awxz8-00093-00026127-00026255 relationship ujcr_4Awxz8-00094-00026256-00026558 because of my disorder the ujcr_4Awxz8-00095-00026560-00026695 one of the worst things that could ujcr_4Awxz8-00096-00026695-00027039 happen to me in my head i'm thinking ujcr_4Awxz8-00097-00027039-00027358 is to be alone so i can't ujcr_4Awxz8-00098-00027360-00027711 go there so actually i'm not thinking ujcr_4Awxz8-00099-00027712-00027895 about it it's too scary ujcr_4Awxz8-00100-00027895-00028351 stay away so write it down ujcr_4Awxz8-00101-00028352-00028607 and i'll tell you what if you keep ujcr_4Awxz8-00102-00028608-00028670 writing ujcr_4Awxz8-00103-00028672-00028783 and you're going to have a lot of ujcr_4Awxz8-00104-00028783-00029007 courage to do this because ujcr_4Awxz8-00105-00029008-00029407 when you start bringing up in your head ujcr_4Awxz8-00106-00029408-00029735 the past first in your head not writing ujcr_4Awxz8-00107-00029736-00029855 down ujcr_4Awxz8-00108-00029856-00030262 it hurts and it's scary ujcr_4Awxz8-00109-00030263-00030502 and it's not something we do and we ujcr_4Awxz8-00110-00030503-00030662 think oh right ujcr_4Awxz8-00111-00030663-00030927 so now i feel so much better because ujcr_4Awxz8-00112-00030927-00030999 i've worked ujcr_4Awxz8-00113-00031000-00031311 out that he or she made a real fool of ujcr_4Awxz8-00114-00031312-00031351 me ujcr_4Awxz8-00115-00031352-00031711 at so-and-so's party no ujcr_4Awxz8-00116-00031712-00032070 it's far deeper than that ujcr_4Awxz8-00117-00032072-00032374 so this is not for you to go back to the ujcr_4Awxz8-00118-00032375-00032583 person who's left you and say you know ujcr_4Awxz8-00119-00032583-00032702 what you did ujcr_4Awxz8-00120-00032703-00032959 and start telling them it's not for that ujcr_4Awxz8-00121-00032960-00033095 because that's not going to get you ujcr_4Awxz8-00122-00033096-00033231 anywhere ujcr_4Awxz8-00123-00033232-00033535 what this is for is to help you ujcr_4Awxz8-00124-00033536-00033983 heal your heart that is breaking ujcr_4Awxz8-00125-00033984-00034335 so you write down unhappy don't think ujcr_4Awxz8-00126-00034336-00034374 about ujcr_4Awxz8-00127-00034375-00034727 happy unhappy and the strangest thing ujcr_4Awxz8-00128-00034728-00035167 happens if you go back to the beginning ujcr_4Awxz8-00129-00035168-00035327 of your relationship and let's say ujcr_4Awxz8-00130-00035328-00035502 you've been together for ujcr_4Awxz8-00131-00035503-00035855 10 years and for 10 years you've ujcr_4Awxz8-00132-00035856-00036167 been happy or so you thought ujcr_4Awxz8-00133-00036168-00036318 and there have been things that have ujcr_4Awxz8-00134-00036319-00036551 happened little things ujcr_4Awxz8-00135-00036552-00036902 that you've let fly but at the time ujcr_4Awxz8-00136-00036903-00037199 they kind of took you by surprise and ujcr_4Awxz8-00137-00037200-00037343 you weren't that ujcr_4Awxz8-00138-00037344-00037615 happy about it but no one else seemed ujcr_4Awxz8-00139-00037616-00037687 worried ujcr_4Awxz8-00140-00037688-00037927 so you let it go i'll give you an ujcr_4Awxz8-00141-00037928-00038023 example ujcr_4Awxz8-00142-00038024-00038302 let's say you went to a barbecue at ujcr_4Awxz8-00143-00038303-00038383 friends ujcr_4Awxz8-00144-00038384-00038767 houses and at a friend's house and ujcr_4Awxz8-00145-00038768-00039095 your partner ujcr_4Awxz8-00146-00039096-00039439 pinched or sort of gave your girlfriend ujcr_4Awxz8-00147-00039440-00039543 or boyfriend ujcr_4Awxz8-00148-00039544-00039807 a little you know feel on the button ujcr_4Awxz8-00149-00039808-00039999 that's something flirtatious ujcr_4Awxz8-00150-00040000-00040327 right which made you whoa ujcr_4Awxz8-00151-00040328-00040687 with nobody likes that firstly ujcr_4Awxz8-00152-00040688-00040879 it makes you feel you can't trust them ujcr_4Awxz8-00153-00040880-00041007 what else are they doing ujcr_4Awxz8-00154-00041008-00041255 when you're not around and secondly it's ujcr_4Awxz8-00155-00041256-00041415 humiliating ujcr_4Awxz8-00156-00041416-00041623 even if everyone in the room kind of ujcr_4Awxz8-00157-00041624-00041830 just you know giggles it off because ujcr_4Awxz8-00158-00041831-00041927 people do that ujcr_4Awxz8-00159-00041928-00042158 people don't really stand up and say hi ujcr_4Awxz8-00160-00042159-00042367 come on what are you doing ujcr_4Awxz8-00161-00042368-00042751 not cool people don't do that and so ujcr_4Awxz8-00162-00042752-00043015 they're very seldom so what happens is ujcr_4Awxz8-00163-00043016-00043118 you feel ujcr_4Awxz8-00164-00043119-00043399 well if you say something firstly you're ujcr_4Awxz8-00165-00043400-00043574 going to be laughed at as if you're a ujcr_4Awxz8-00166-00043575-00043671 fool ujcr_4Awxz8-00167-00043672-00044071 you're already feeling humiliated and ujcr_4Awxz8-00168-00044072-00044287 you probably you're doubting yourself ujcr_4Awxz8-00169-00044288-00044462 because of your mental illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00170-00044463-00044735 that maybe what you're feeling isn't ujcr_4Awxz8-00171-00044736-00044918 even real anyway ujcr_4Awxz8-00172-00044919-00045255 such a complete train smash ujcr_4Awxz8-00173-00045256-00045574 so what you need to do is start writing ujcr_4Awxz8-00174-00045575-00045630 down ujcr_4Awxz8-00175-00045631-00045871 every little thing you can think of that ujcr_4Awxz8-00176-00045872-00045958 made you ujcr_4Awxz8-00177-00045959-00046295 unhappy don't write down yes ujcr_4Awxz8-00178-00046296-00046686 but when he or she did this ujcr_4Awxz8-00179-00046687-00047151 they then did that to fix it no ujcr_4Awxz8-00180-00047152-00047446 they have made you unhappy and i'll tell ujcr_4Awxz8-00181-00047447-00047655 you why i can say this ujcr_4Awxz8-00182-00047656-00047974 because it takes two people to make ujcr_4Awxz8-00183-00047975-00048367 a good relationship or to break it ujcr_4Awxz8-00184-00048368-00048646 and it's not because the person has ujcr_4Awxz8-00185-00048647-00048767 mental illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00186-00048768-00049079 only that is a contributing factor ujcr_4Awxz8-00187-00049080-00049407 but on that one i can tell you ujcr_4Awxz8-00188-00049408-00049686 that if your partner signed up to be ujcr_4Awxz8-00189-00049687-00049751 with you ujcr_4Awxz8-00190-00049752-00050215 as in showed up i'm here married or not ujcr_4Awxz8-00191-00050216-00050479 there is a responsibility that comes ujcr_4Awxz8-00192-00050480-00050607 with that ujcr_4Awxz8-00193-00050608-00050879 and if you have a partner who has a ujcr_4Awxz8-00194-00050880-00051015 mental illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00195-00051016-00051202 please know that there is a ujcr_4Awxz8-00196-00051203-00051358 responsibility ujcr_4Awxz8-00197-00051359-00051630 that comes with that and that is when ujcr_4Awxz8-00198-00051632-00051823 your relationship starts going ujcr_4Awxz8-00199-00051824-00052126 south things go wrong you ujcr_4Awxz8-00200-00052127-00052423 call for help you either call on the ujcr_4Awxz8-00201-00052424-00052687 doctor or the psychiatrist or the family ujcr_4Awxz8-00202-00052688-00052791 or friends ujcr_4Awxz8-00203-00052791-00053071 you do something you stand up and you ujcr_4Awxz8-00204-00053072-00053166 call for help ujcr_4Awxz8-00205-00053167-00053438 because if your partner who has the ujcr_4Awxz8-00206-00053439-00053591 mental disorder ujcr_4Awxz8-00207-00053591-00053903 is literally falling apart and she or he ujcr_4Awxz8-00208-00053904-00054142 is screaming and freaking out and ujcr_4Awxz8-00209-00054144-00054335 yelling and ujcr_4Awxz8-00210-00054336-00054671 it's not necessarily their fault ujcr_4Awxz8-00211-00054672-00054887 so please don't think for a moment that ujcr_4Awxz8-00212-00054888-00054975 i'm saying ujcr_4Awxz8-00213-00054976-00055223 oh it's fine if people with mental ujcr_4Awxz8-00214-00055224-00055311 disorders ujcr_4Awxz8-00215-00055312-00055479 just behave like that because they've ujcr_4Awxz8-00216-00055479-00055638 got a mental disorder ujcr_4Awxz8-00217-00055639-00055950 no none of it's fine but what ujcr_4Awxz8-00218-00055951-00056342 are you doing to create ujcr_4Awxz8-00219-00056344-00056694 the situation so it's not all ujcr_4Awxz8-00220-00056695-00056942 you and it's let's not even go blame ujcr_4Awxz8-00221-00056944-00057038 here ujcr_4Awxz8-00222-00057039-00057366 let's just say it's a behavior ujcr_4Awxz8-00223-00057367-00057723 that's happening and if that behavior ujcr_4Awxz8-00224-00057724-00058199 continues to happen regularly ujcr_4Awxz8-00225-00058200-00058607 it's unhealthy i think to blame it on ujcr_4Awxz8-00226-00058608-00058950 the person or on the disorder ujcr_4Awxz8-00227-00058951-00059271 that's playing up in the person i ujcr_4Awxz8-00228-00059272-00059575 have often heard people use this ujcr_4Awxz8-00229-00059576-00059894 as some kind of it's quite an ugly ujcr_4Awxz8-00230-00059895-00060263 form of blaming someone to use their ujcr_4Awxz8-00231-00060264-00060319 illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00232-00060320-00060623 against them now a lot of people have ujcr_4Awxz8-00233-00060624-00060750 come to me ujcr_4Awxz8-00234-00060751-00060982 for counseling and guidance and he said ujcr_4Awxz8-00235-00060983-00061135 to me you know ujcr_4Awxz8-00236-00061136-00061526 he she uses it against me ujcr_4Awxz8-00237-00061527-00061854 so i don't know how to defend that ujcr_4Awxz8-00238-00061855-00062135 maybe you don't need to defend that ujcr_4Awxz8-00239-00062136-00062287 maybe you need to just ujcr_4Awxz8-00240-00062288-00062654 get some strong insight maybe you need ujcr_4Awxz8-00241-00062655-00062775 some help ujcr_4Awxz8-00242-00062776-00063103 as to take back your power and who you ujcr_4Awxz8-00243-00063104-00063150 are ujcr_4Awxz8-00244-00063151-00063447 because when you were born and you were ujcr_4Awxz8-00245-00063448-00063503 given ujcr_4Awxz8-00246-00063504-00063830 this mental illness bipolar disorder ujcr_4Awxz8-00247-00063832-00064150 is a physical illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00248-00064151-00064415 which is mental illness but it's ujcr_4Awxz8-00249-00064416-00064519 physical ujcr_4Awxz8-00250-00064520-00064759 it's not just a bad thing that happened ujcr_4Awxz8-00251-00064760-00064950 and now i have bipolar ujcr_4Awxz8-00252-00064951-00065263 no it's not that at all the same as ujcr_4Awxz8-00253-00065264-00065582 adhd same as some depressions ujcr_4Awxz8-00254-00065583-00065775 so and there's a lot that scientists are ujcr_4Awxz8-00255-00065776-00065894 still finding out ujcr_4Awxz8-00256-00065895-00066279 so you imagine blaming someone's ujcr_4Awxz8-00257-00066280-00066615 blaming someone why must we do that ujcr_4Awxz8-00258-00066616-00066935 we don't have to do that but ujcr_4Awxz8-00259-00066936-00067287 the person who does that will make ujcr_4Awxz8-00260-00067288-00067623 you feel if you allow it ujcr_4Awxz8-00261-00067624-00068135 worse than shock at fifty thousands ujcr_4Awxz8-00262-00068136-00068399 don't let that happen you don't deserve ujcr_4Awxz8-00263-00068400-00068503 it ujcr_4Awxz8-00264-00068504-00068831 you might be told things like ujcr_4Awxz8-00265-00068832-00069087 throughout your relationship which has ujcr_4Awxz8-00266-00069088-00069231 further eroded ujcr_4Awxz8-00267-00069232-00069447 your self-confidence and this is ujcr_4Awxz8-00268-00069448-00069559 something you need ujcr_4Awxz8-00269-00069560-00069799 to write down if this has happened i ujcr_4Awxz8-00270-00069800-00069959 know it happens because ujcr_4Awxz8-00271-00069960-00070287 i counsel and speak to people ujcr_4Awxz8-00272-00070288-00070591 who this happens with and most of them ujcr_4Awxz8-00273-00070592-00071023 it happens is the partner slowly erodes ujcr_4Awxz8-00274-00071024-00071159 the person's ujcr_4Awxz8-00275-00071160-00071479 confidence who has the mental illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00276-00071480-00071855 with little jibes little snipes ujcr_4Awxz8-00277-00071856-00072126 things that are supposed to be funny but ujcr_4Awxz8-00278-00072127-00072287 they're not funny ujcr_4Awxz8-00279-00072288-00072671 for example perhaps if you're a woman ujcr_4Awxz8-00280-00072672-00072999 you do your hair up all crazy one day ujcr_4Awxz8-00281-00073000-00073367 crazy in your kind of fun no one else ujcr_4Awxz8-00282-00073368-00073455 can say ujcr_4Awxz8-00283-00073456-00073823 you're crazy but you i can say to you ujcr_4Awxz8-00284-00073824-00074175 i'm being so cray-cray today but that's ujcr_4Awxz8-00285-00074176-00074511 me talking about me doesn't mean ujcr_4Awxz8-00286-00074512-00074735 other people can call me crazy you know ujcr_4Awxz8-00287-00074736-00074926 what i mean it's like that old thing is ujcr_4Awxz8-00288-00074927-00075135 don't say anything i don't respect ujcr_4Awxz8-00289-00075136-00075287 disrespect my mother ujcr_4Awxz8-00290-00075288-00075591 meanwhile your mother might be ujcr_4Awxz8-00291-00075592-00075887 like you know cinderella's dead mother ujcr_4Awxz8-00292-00075888-00076015 that kind of thing ujcr_4Awxz8-00293-00076016-00076326 it's just human behavior ujcr_4Awxz8-00294-00076327-00076631 so what will happen is ujcr_4Awxz8-00295-00076632-00076999 which often happens is the partner will ujcr_4Awxz8-00296-00077000-00077119 say ujcr_4Awxz8-00297-00077120-00077494 normally within an argument or maybe not ujcr_4Awxz8-00298-00077495-00077719 you know what you're just crazy i'm ujcr_4Awxz8-00299-00077720-00077815 gonna forget it ujcr_4Awxz8-00300-00077816-00078175 that's what's the point and yeah you did ujcr_4Awxz8-00301-00078176-00078479 actually say that but well ujcr_4Awxz8-00302-00078480-00078838 you forgot what can i do ujcr_4Awxz8-00303-00078839-00079143 you're just crazy ujcr_4Awxz8-00304-00079144-00079494 that kind of thing it's not on ujcr_4Awxz8-00305-00079495-00079767 i'm not here to tell you how to run your ujcr_4Awxz8-00306-00079768-00079903 relationship ujcr_4Awxz8-00307-00079904-00080167 i'm here to tell you the most important ujcr_4Awxz8-00308-00080168-00080231 thing ujcr_4Awxz8-00309-00080232-00080503 because there are so many divorces ujcr_4Awxz8-00310-00080504-00080575 happening ujcr_4Awxz8-00311-00080576-00080862 right now since clothed it's just going ujcr_4Awxz8-00312-00080863-00080975 crazy ujcr_4Awxz8-00313-00080976-00081367 the mental illness the panic of my word ujcr_4Awxz8-00314-00081368-00081631 panic has gone off the charts not ujcr_4Awxz8-00315-00081632-00081759 anxiety ujcr_4Awxz8-00316-00081760-00082094 panic and people are just splitting up ujcr_4Awxz8-00317-00082095-00082335 because they can't stand the pressure ujcr_4Awxz8-00318-00082336-00082479 and people are in their face ujcr_4Awxz8-00319-00082480-00082831 each other's faces 24 7 because of the ujcr_4Awxz8-00320-00082832-00082950 times we couldn't go ujcr_4Awxz8-00321-00082951-00083215 out and this is where the cracks are now ujcr_4Awxz8-00322-00083216-00083303 showing ujcr_4Awxz8-00323-00083304-00083479 and more and more people are coming to ujcr_4Awxz8-00324-00083480-00083606 me with ujcr_4Awxz8-00325-00083607-00083959 stories of okay it's ending so why ujcr_4Awxz8-00326-00083960-00084215 so then you go back because you my ujcr_4Awxz8-00327-00084216-00084335 friends ujcr_4Awxz8-00328-00084336-00084718 have to if you have a mental illness ujcr_4Awxz8-00329-00084719-00085023 you have to know your worth ujcr_4Awxz8-00330-00085024-00085359 you have to know that you're not just ujcr_4Awxz8-00331-00085360-00085606 some person with missing brain cells ujcr_4Awxz8-00332-00085607-00085750 that knows nothing ujcr_4Awxz8-00333-00085751-00086094 in fact the opposite is true you need to ujcr_4Awxz8-00334-00086095-00086287 know that you're a worthwhile ujcr_4Awxz8-00335-00086288-00086591 lovely person and you could have been ujcr_4Awxz8-00336-00086592-00086631 told ujcr_4Awxz8-00337-00086632-00086935 differently in some kind of which wasn't ujcr_4Awxz8-00338-00086936-00087047 funny ujcr_4Awxz8-00339-00087048-00087462 way that erodes the self-confidence all ujcr_4Awxz8-00340-00087463-00087615 the time ujcr_4Awxz8-00341-00087616-00087894 so now you're going through a breakup ujcr_4Awxz8-00342-00087895-00088047 your partner is leaving you ujcr_4Awxz8-00343-00088048-00088262 because you're so terrible this is what ujcr_4Awxz8-00344-00088263-00088503 you might be told you're such a pain i ujcr_4Awxz8-00345-00088504-00088726 can't handle your behavior anymore ujcr_4Awxz8-00346-00088727-00088911 no one would be able to handle your ujcr_4Awxz8-00347-00088912-00089087 behavior i mean i've been ujcr_4Awxz8-00348-00089088-00089399 i've handled it for so long ujcr_4Awxz8-00349-00089400-00089591 and you're sitting thinking cringing in ujcr_4Awxz8-00350-00089592-00089782 the corner thinking i know ujcr_4Awxz8-00351-00089783-00090206 you're right i should never forget it ujcr_4Awxz8-00352-00090207-00090606 let him or who have they say but ujcr_4Awxz8-00353-00090607-00091015 don't take it in please don't take it in ujcr_4Awxz8-00354-00091016-00091294 and start writing down everything that ujcr_4Awxz8-00355-00091295-00091399 they have done ujcr_4Awxz8-00356-00091400-00091775 that's made you unhappy and i can tell ujcr_4Awxz8-00357-00091776-00091903 you now ujcr_4Awxz8-00358-00091904-00092159 you're going to write and write and ujcr_4Awxz8-00359-00092160-00092223 write ujcr_4Awxz8-00360-00092224-00092503 and write you won't believe how much ujcr_4Awxz8-00361-00092504-00092623 you'll come up with ujcr_4Awxz8-00362-00092624-00092903 what that will do for you is not to ujcr_4Awxz8-00363-00092904-00093071 throw it in their faces 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ujcr_4Awxz8-00424-00110303-00110607 stay calm and try and be happy and you ujcr_4Awxz8-00425-00110608-00110815 start writing those things down ujcr_4Awxz8-00426-00110816-00111239 about what is what have they done ujcr_4Awxz8-00427-00111240-00111671 that isn't so kind you'll be surprised ujcr_4Awxz8-00428-00111672-00111854 all right my friends i'll be back with ujcr_4Awxz8-00429-00111855-00112075 you soon thanks for joining ujcr_4Awxz8-00430-00112076-00112376 ciao uliGyW4B_GA-00000-00000041-00000340 fermentation is a metabolic process that uliGyW4B_GA-00001-00000341-00000557 produces chemical changes in organic uliGyW4B_GA-00002-00000558-00000743 substrates through the action of enzymes uliGyW4B_GA-00003-00000744-00001064 in biochemistry it is narrowly defined uliGyW4B_GA-00004-00001065-00001225 as the extraction of energy from uliGyW4B_GA-00005-00001226-00001415 carbohydrates in the absence of oxygen uliGyW4B_GA-00006-00001416-00001735 in the context of food production it may uliGyW4B_GA-00007-00001736-00001946 more broadly refer to any process in uliGyW4B_GA-00008-00001947-00002085 which the activity of microorganisms uliGyW4B_GA-00009-00002086-00002345 brings about a desirable change to a uliGyW4B_GA-00010-00002346-00002612 foodstuff or beverage the science of uliGyW4B_GA-00011-00002613-00002868 fermentation is known as zum ology in uliGyW4B_GA-00012-00002869-00003142 microorganisms fermentation as the uliGyW4B_GA-00013-00003143-00003374 primary means of producing ATP by the uliGyW4B_GA-00014-00003375-00003581 degradation of organic nutrients and uliGyW4B_GA-00015-00003582-00003881 aerobic Li humans have used fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00016-00003882-00004067 to produce foodstuffs and beverages uliGyW4B_GA-00017-00004068-00004343 since the Neolithic Age for example uliGyW4B_GA-00018-00004344-00004570 fermentation is used for preservation in uliGyW4B_GA-00019-00004571-00004808 a process that produces lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00020-00004809-00005009 found in such sour foods as pickled uliGyW4B_GA-00021-00005010-00005252 cucumbers kimchi and yogurt as well as uliGyW4B_GA-00022-00005253-00005452 for producing alcoholic beverages such uliGyW4B_GA-00023-00005453-00005735 as wine and beer fermentation occurs uliGyW4B_GA-00024-00005736-00005938 within the gastrointestinal tracts of uliGyW4B_GA-00025-00005939-00006608 all animals including humans uliGyW4B_GA-00026-00006609-00007142 topic definitions uliGyW4B_GA-00027-00007143-00007340 below are some definitions of uliGyW4B_GA-00028-00007341-00007568 fermentation they range from informal uliGyW4B_GA-00029-00007569-00007772 general usages to more scientific uliGyW4B_GA-00030-00007773-00008078 definitions preservation methods for uliGyW4B_GA-00031-00008079-00008435 food via microorganisms general use any uliGyW4B_GA-00032-00008436-00008654 process that produces alcoholic uliGyW4B_GA-00033-00008655-00008870 beverages or acidic dairy products uliGyW4B_GA-00034-00008871-00009221 general use any large-scale microbial uliGyW4B_GA-00035-00009222-00009407 process occurring with or without air uliGyW4B_GA-00036-00009408-00009719 common definition used in industry any uliGyW4B_GA-00037-00009720-00009989 energy releasing metabolic process that uliGyW4B_GA-00038-00009990-00010136 takes place only under anaerobic uliGyW4B_GA-00039-00010137-00010469 conditions becoming more scientific any uliGyW4B_GA-00040-00010470-00010691 metabolic process that releases energy uliGyW4B_GA-00041-00010692-00010946 from a sugar or other organic molecule uliGyW4B_GA-00042-00010947-00011189 does not require oxygen or an electron uliGyW4B_GA-00043-00011190-00011375 transport system and uses an organic uliGyW4B_GA-00044-00011376-00011588 molecule as the final electron acceptor uliGyW4B_GA-00045-00011589-00012246 most scientific uliGyW4B_GA-00046-00012247-00012824 topic biological role uliGyW4B_GA-00047-00012825-00013069 along with photosynthesis and aerobic uliGyW4B_GA-00048-00013071-00013286 respiration fermentation is a way of uliGyW4B_GA-00049-00013287-00013508 extracting energy from molecules but it uliGyW4B_GA-00050-00013509-00013712 is the only one common to all bacteria uliGyW4B_GA-00051-00013713-00013952 and eukaryotes it is therefore uliGyW4B_GA-00052-00013953-00014165 considered the oldest metabolic pathway uliGyW4B_GA-00053-00014166-00014354 suitable for an environment that does uliGyW4B_GA-00054-00014355-00014636 not yet have oxygen yeast a form of uliGyW4B_GA-00055-00014637-00014840 fungus occurs in almost any environment uliGyW4B_GA-00056-00014841-00015080 capable of supporting microbes from the uliGyW4B_GA-00057-00015081-00015281 skins of fruits to the guts of insects uliGyW4B_GA-00058-00015282-00015458 and mammals in the deep ocean and they uliGyW4B_GA-00059-00015459-00015653 harvest sugar rich materials to produce uliGyW4B_GA-00060-00015654-00015911 ethanol and carbon dioxide the basic uliGyW4B_GA-00061-00015912-00016094 mechanism for fermentation remains uliGyW4B_GA-00062-00016094-00016344 present in all cells of higher organisms uliGyW4B_GA-00063-00016345-00016559 mammalian muscle carries out the uliGyW4B_GA-00064-00016560-00016766 fermentation that occurs during periods uliGyW4B_GA-00065-00016767-00017006 of intense exercise where oxygen supply uliGyW4B_GA-00066-00017007-00017180 becomes limited resulting in the uliGyW4B_GA-00067-00017181-00017480 creation of lactic acid in invertebrates uliGyW4B_GA-00068-00017481-00017729 fermentation also produces succinate and uliGyW4B_GA-00069-00017730-00017936 alanine fermentative bacteria play an uliGyW4B_GA-00070-00017937-00018101 essential role in the production of uliGyW4B_GA-00071-00018102-00018293 methane in habitats ranging from the uliGyW4B_GA-00072-00018294-00018518 rumens of cattle to sewage digesters and uliGyW4B_GA-00073-00018519-00018740 freshwater sediments they produce uliGyW4B_GA-00074-00018741-00019007 hydrogen carbon dioxide formate and uliGyW4B_GA-00075-00019008-00019244 acetate and carboxylic acids and then uliGyW4B_GA-00076-00019245-00019447 consortium microbes convert the carbon uliGyW4B_GA-00077-00019448-00019763 dioxide and acetate to methane asita uliGyW4B_GA-00078-00019764-00019985 genic bacteria oxidize the acids uliGyW4B_GA-00079-00019986-00020159 obtaining more acetate in either uliGyW4B_GA-00080-00020160-00020450 hydrogen or formate finally methanogens uliGyW4B_GA-00081-00020451-00020678 which are in the domain Archaea convert uliGyW4B_GA-00082-00020679-00021294 acetate to methane uliGyW4B_GA-00083-00021295-00021879 topic biochemical overview uliGyW4B_GA-00084-00021880-00022177 fermentation reacts nadh with an uliGyW4B_GA-00085-00022178-00022446 endogenous organic electron acceptor uliGyW4B_GA-00086-00022447-00022693 usually this is pyruvate formed from uliGyW4B_GA-00087-00022694-00022942 sugar through glycolysis the reaction uliGyW4B_GA-00088-00022943-00023179 produces nad plus in an organic product uliGyW4B_GA-00089-00023180-00023440 typical examples being ethanol lactic uliGyW4B_GA-00090-00023441-00023796 acid carbon dioxide and hydrogen gas h2 uliGyW4B_GA-00091-00023797-00024076 however more exotic compounds can be uliGyW4B_GA-00092-00024077-00024331 produced by fermentation such as butyric uliGyW4B_GA-00093-00024332-00024643 acid and acetone fermentation products uliGyW4B_GA-00094-00024644-00024835 contain chemical energy they are not uliGyW4B_GA-00095-00024836-00025051 fully oxidized but are considered waste uliGyW4B_GA-00096-00025052-00025216 products since they cannot be uliGyW4B_GA-00097-00025217-00025387 metabolized further without the use of uliGyW4B_GA-00098-00025388-00025734 oxygen fermentation normally occurs in uliGyW4B_GA-00099-00025735-00025972 an anaerobic environment in the presence uliGyW4B_GA-00100-00025973-00026269 of o2 nadh and pyruvate are used to uliGyW4B_GA-00101-00026270-00026557 generate ATP in respiration this is uliGyW4B_GA-00102-00026558-00026776 called oxidative phosphorylation and it uliGyW4B_GA-00103-00026777-00027015 generates much more ATP than glycolysis uliGyW4B_GA-00104-00027016-00027304 alone for that reason fermentation is uliGyW4B_GA-00105-00027305-00027549 rarely utilized when oxygen is available uliGyW4B_GA-00106-00027550-00027826 however even in the presence of abundant uliGyW4B_GA-00107-00027827-00028039 oxygen some strains of yeast such as uliGyW4B_GA-00108-00028039-00028233 Saccharomyces cerevisiae prefer uliGyW4B_GA-00109-00028235-00028456 fermentation to aerobic respiration as uliGyW4B_GA-00110-00028457-00028639 long as there is an adequate supply of uliGyW4B_GA-00111-00028639-00028813 sugars a phenomenon known as the uliGyW4B_GA-00112-00028814-00029086 Crabtree effect some fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00113-00029087-00029275 processes involve obligate anaerobes uliGyW4B_GA-00114-00029276-00029523 which cannot tolerate oxygen uliGyW4B_GA-00115-00029524-00029725 although yeast carries out the uliGyW4B_GA-00116-00029726-00029887 fermentation in the production of uliGyW4B_GA-00117-00029888-00030088 ethanol in beers wines and other uliGyW4B_GA-00118-00030089-00030292 alcoholic drinks this is not the only uliGyW4B_GA-00119-00030293-00030529 possible agent bacteria carry out the uliGyW4B_GA-00120-00030530-00030682 fermentation in the production of uliGyW4B_GA-00121-00030683-00031248 xanthan gum uliGyW4B_GA-00122-00031249-00031755 topic products uliGyW4B_GA-00123-00031756-00032093 you uliGyW4B_GA-00124-00032094-00032587 topic ethanol uliGyW4B_GA-00125-00032588-00032842 in ethanol fermentation one glucose uliGyW4B_GA-00126-00032843-00033058 molecule is converted into two ethanol uliGyW4B_GA-00127-00033059-00033262 molecules in two carbon dioxide uliGyW4B_GA-00128-00033263-00033545 molecules it is used to make bread dough uliGyW4B_GA-00129-00033546-00033790 rise the carbon dioxide forms bubbles uliGyW4B_GA-00130-00033791-00034055 expanding the dough into a foam the uliGyW4B_GA-00131-00034056-00034339 ethanol is the intoxicated in alcoholic uliGyW4B_GA-00132-00034340-00034617 beverages such as wine beer and liquor uliGyW4B_GA-00133-00034618-00034855 fermentation of feedstocks including uliGyW4B_GA-00134-00034856-00035120 sugarcane corn and sugar beets produces uliGyW4B_GA-00135-00035121-00035317 ethanol that is added to gasoline in uliGyW4B_GA-00136-00035318-00035627 some species of fish including gold fish uliGyW4B_GA-00137-00035628-00035858 and carp it provides energy when oxygen uliGyW4B_GA-00138-00035859-00036061 is scarce along with lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00139-00036062-00036262 fermentation the figure illustrates the uliGyW4B_GA-00140-00036263-00036568 process before fermentation a glucose uliGyW4B_GA-00141-00036569-00036796 molecule breaks down into two pyruvate uliGyW4B_GA-00142-00036797-00037030 molecules the energy from this uliGyW4B_GA-00143-00037031-00037232 exothermic reaction is used to bind uliGyW4B_GA-00144-00037233-00037492 inorganic phosphates to ATP and convert uliGyW4B_GA-00145-00037493-00037864 NAD+ to NADH the pyruvates break down uliGyW4B_GA-00146-00037865-00038105 into two acetaldehyde molecules and give uliGyW4B_GA-00147-00038106-00038336 off two carbon dioxide molecules as a uliGyW4B_GA-00148-00038337-00038426 waste product uliGyW4B_GA-00149-00038427-00038705 the acetaldehyde is reduced into ethanol uliGyW4B_GA-00150-00038706-00038965 using the energy and hydrogen from NADH uliGyW4B_GA-00151-00038966-00039245 and the NADH is oxidized into nad plus uliGyW4B_GA-00152-00039246-00039470 so that the cycle may repeat the uliGyW4B_GA-00153-00039471-00039670 reaction is catalyzed by the enzymes uliGyW4B_GA-00154-00039671-00039901 pyruvate decarboxylase and alcohol uliGyW4B_GA-00155-00039902-00040478 dehydrogenase uliGyW4B_GA-00156-00040479-00040999 topic lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00157-00041000-00041260 Homa lactic fermentation producing only uliGyW4B_GA-00158-00041261-00041485 lactic acid is the simplest type of uliGyW4B_GA-00159-00041486-00041701 fermentation the pyruvate from uliGyW4B_GA-00160-00041702-00041945 glycolysis undergoes a simple redox uliGyW4B_GA-00161-00041946-00042235 reaction forming lactic acid it is uliGyW4B_GA-00162-00042236-00042388 unique because it is one of the only uliGyW4B_GA-00163-00042389-00042626 respiration processes to not produce a uliGyW4B_GA-00164-00042627-00042895 gas as a by-product over all one uliGyW4B_GA-00165-00042896-00043148 molecule of glucose or any six carbon uliGyW4B_GA-00166-00043149-00043373 sugar is converted to two molecules of uliGyW4B_GA-00167-00043374-00043976 lactic acid c6h12o6 to ch3cho koo hit uliGyW4B_GA-00168-00043977-00044158 occurs in the muscles of animals when uliGyW4B_GA-00169-00044159-00044329 they need energy faster than the blood uliGyW4B_GA-00170-00044330-00044638 can supply oxygen it also occurs in some uliGyW4B_GA-00171-00044639-00044839 kinds of bacteria such as lactobacillus uliGyW4B_GA-00172-00044840-00045124 and some fungi it is the type of uliGyW4B_GA-00173-00045125-00045355 bacteria that converts lactose into uliGyW4B_GA-00174-00045356-00045577 lactic acid in yogurt giving it its sour uliGyW4B_GA-00175-00045578-00045898 taste these lactic acid bacteria can uliGyW4B_GA-00176-00045899-00046039 carry out either Homa lactic uliGyW4B_GA-00177-00046040-00046235 fermentation where the end product is uliGyW4B_GA-00178-00046236-00046468 mostly lactic acid or hetero lactic uliGyW4B_GA-00179-00046469-00046651 fermentation where some lactate is uliGyW4B_GA-00180-00046652-00046849 further metabolized and results in uliGyW4B_GA-00181-00046850-00047062 ethanol and carbon dioxide via the uliGyW4B_GA-00182-00047063-00047290 phospho catalase pathway acetate or uliGyW4B_GA-00183-00047291-00047877 other metabolic products eg c6h12o6 uliGyW4B_GA-00184-00047878-00048583 ch3cho h co o h+ c2h5oh plus co2 if uliGyW4B_GA-00185-00048584-00048811 lactose is fermented as in yogurts and uliGyW4B_GA-00186-00048812-00048998 cheeses it is first converted into uliGyW4B_GA-00187-00048999-00049252 glucose and galactose both six carbon uliGyW4B_GA-00188-00049253-00049636 sugars with the same atomic formula c12 uliGyW4B_GA-00189-00049637-00050254 h22 o11 + h2o to c6 h-12 o-6 hetero uliGyW4B_GA-00190-00050255-00050440 lactic fermentation is in a sense uliGyW4B_GA-00191-00050441-00050636 intermediate between lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00192-00050637-00050810 fermentation and other types eg uliGyW4B_GA-00193-00050811-00051142 alcoholic fermentation see below the uliGyW4B_GA-00194-00051143-00051358 reasons to go further and convert lactic uliGyW4B_GA-00195-00051359-00051662 acid into anything else are the acidity uliGyW4B_GA-00196-00051663-00051892 of lactic acid impedes biological uliGyW4B_GA-00197-00051894-00052177 processes this can be beneficial to the uliGyW4B_GA-00198-00052178-00052363 fermenting organism as it drives out uliGyW4B_GA-00199-00052364-00052555 competitors that are unadapted to the uliGyW4B_GA-00200-00052556-00052841 acidity as a result the food will have a uliGyW4B_GA-00201-00052841-00053041 longer shelf-life part of the reason uliGyW4B_GA-00202-00053042-00053216 foods are purposely fermented in the uliGyW4B_GA-00203-00053216-00053407 first place however beyond a certain uliGyW4B_GA-00204-00053408-00053612 point the acidity starts affecting the uliGyW4B_GA-00205-00053613-00053885 organism that produces it the high uliGyW4B_GA-00206-00053886-00054130 concentration of lactic acid the final uliGyW4B_GA-00207-00054131-00054319 product of fermentation drives the uliGyW4B_GA-00208-00054320-00054379 equilibria uliGyW4B_GA-00209-00054380-00054578 backwards blue chatelier's principal uliGyW4B_GA-00210-00054579-00054695 decreasing the rate at which uliGyW4B_GA-00211-00054696-00054896 fermentation can occur and slowing down uliGyW4B_GA-00212-00054897-00055255 growth ethanol into which lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00213-00055257-00055475 can be easily converted is volatile and uliGyW4B_GA-00214-00055476-00055628 will readily escape allowing the uliGyW4B_GA-00215-00055629-00055991 reaction to proceed easily co2 is also uliGyW4B_GA-00216-00055991-00056165 produced but it is only weakly acidic uliGyW4B_GA-00217-00056166-00056425 and even more volatile than ethanol uliGyW4B_GA-00218-00056426-00056716 acetic acid another conversion product uliGyW4B_GA-00219-00056717-00056929 is acidic and not as volatile as ethanol uliGyW4B_GA-00220-00056930-00057137 however in the presence of limited uliGyW4B_GA-00221-00057138-00057376 oxygen its creation from lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00222-00057377-00057626 releases additional energy it is a uliGyW4B_GA-00223-00057627-00057857 lighter molecule than lactic acid that uliGyW4B_GA-00224-00057858-00058049 forms fewer hydrogen bonds with its uliGyW4B_GA-00225-00058050-00058238 surroundings due to having fewer groups uliGyW4B_GA-00226-00058239-00058441 that can form such bonds thus is more uliGyW4B_GA-00227-00058442-00058586 volatile and will also allow the uliGyW4B_GA-00228-00058587-00058854 reaction to move forward more quickly if uliGyW4B_GA-00229-00058855-00059195 propionic acid butyric acid and longer uliGyW4B_GA-00230-00059196-00059441 mono carboxylic acids are produced see uliGyW4B_GA-00231-00059441-00059645 mixed acid fermentation the amount of uliGyW4B_GA-00232-00059646-00059854 acidity produced per glucose consumed uliGyW4B_GA-00233-00059855-00060067 will decrease as with ethanol allowing uliGyW4B_GA-00234-00060069-00060621 faster growth uliGyW4B_GA-00235-00060622-00061163 topic hydrogen gas uliGyW4B_GA-00236-00061164-00061428 hydrogen gas is produced in many types uliGyW4B_GA-00237-00061429-00061637 of fermentation mixed acid fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00238-00061638-00061904 butyric acid fermentation could pro8 uliGyW4B_GA-00239-00061905-00062115 fermentation butanol fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00240-00062116-00062322 glyoxylate fermentation as a way to uliGyW4B_GA-00241-00062323-00062724 regenerate NAD+ from nadh electrons are uliGyW4B_GA-00242-00062725-00062934 transferred to ferredoxin which in turn uliGyW4B_GA-00243-00062935-00063269 is oxidized by hydrogenase producing h2 uliGyW4B_GA-00244-00063270-00063482 hydrogen gas is a substrate for uliGyW4B_GA-00245-00063483-00063726 methanogens and sulfate reducers which uliGyW4B_GA-00246-00063727-00063932 keep the concentration of hydrogen low uliGyW4B_GA-00247-00063933-00064107 and favored the production of such an uliGyW4B_GA-00248-00064108-00064355 energy rich compound but hydrogen gas at uliGyW4B_GA-00249-00064357-00064529 a fairly high concentration can uliGyW4B_GA-00250-00064530-00064766 nevertheless be formed as in flatus as uliGyW4B_GA-00251-00064766-00065041 an example of mixed acid fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00252-00065042-00065304 bacteria such as Clostridium Pasteur uliGyW4B_GA-00253-00065304-00065526 einem ferment glucose producing butyrate uliGyW4B_GA-00254-00065527-00065790 acetate carbon dioxide and hydrogen gas uliGyW4B_GA-00255-00065791-00066149 the reaction leading to acetate is uliGyW4B_GA-00256-00066150-00066744 c6h12o6 plus 4 h2o to ch3coo minus plus uliGyW4B_GA-00257-00066745-00067224 2 h co 3 minus plus 4 h plus plus 4 h to uliGyW4B_GA-00258-00067225-00067440 glucose could theoretically be converted uliGyW4B_GA-00259-00067441-00067722 into just co2 and h2 that the global uliGyW4B_GA-00260-00067723-00068405 reaction releases little energy uliGyW4B_GA-00261-00068406-00068964 topic modes of operation uliGyW4B_GA-00262-00068965-00069246 most industrial fermentation uses batch uliGyW4B_GA-00263-00069247-00069438 or fed-batch procedures although uliGyW4B_GA-00264-00069439-00069624 continuous fermentation can be more uliGyW4B_GA-00265-00069625-00069819 economical if various challenges uliGyW4B_GA-00266-00069820-00069975 particularly the difficulty of uliGyW4B_GA-00267-00069976-00070633 maintaining sterility can be met uliGyW4B_GA-00268-00070634-00071111 topic batch uliGyW4B_GA-00269-00071112-00071368 in a batch process all the ingredients uliGyW4B_GA-00270-00071369-00071534 are combined and the reactions proceed uliGyW4B_GA-00271-00071535-00071771 without any further input batch uliGyW4B_GA-00272-00071772-00071974 fermentation has been used for millennia uliGyW4B_GA-00273-00071975-00072205 to make bread and alcoholic beverages uliGyW4B_GA-00274-00072206-00072365 and it is still a common method uliGyW4B_GA-00275-00072366-00072578 especially when the process is not well uliGyW4B_GA-00276-00072579-00072856 understood however it can be expensive uliGyW4B_GA-00277-00072857-00073057 because the fermenter must be sterilized uliGyW4B_GA-00278-00073058-00073225 using high-pressure steam between uliGyW4B_GA-00279-00073226-00073517 batches strictly speaking there is often uliGyW4B_GA-00280-00073518-00073663 addition of small quantities of uliGyW4B_GA-00281-00073664-00073904 chemicals to control the pH or suppress uliGyW4B_GA-00282-00073905-00074104 foaming batch fermentation goes through uliGyW4B_GA-00283-00074105-00074384 a series of phases there is a lag phase uliGyW4B_GA-00284-00074385-00074530 in which cells adjust to their uliGyW4B_GA-00285-00074531-00074680 environment then a phase in which uliGyW4B_GA-00286-00074681-00074984 exponential growth occurs once many of uliGyW4B_GA-00287-00074985-00075154 the nutrients have been consumed the uliGyW4B_GA-00288-00075155-00075386 growth slows and becomes non exponential uliGyW4B_GA-00289-00075387-00075601 but production of secondary metabolites uliGyW4B_GA-00290-00075602-00075769 including commercially important uliGyW4B_GA-00291-00075770-00076093 antibiotics and enzymes accelerates this uliGyW4B_GA-00292-00076094-00076279 continues through a stationary phase uliGyW4B_GA-00293-00076280-00076454 after most of the nutrients have been uliGyW4B_GA-00294-00076455-00077107 consumed and then the cells die uliGyW4B_GA-00295-00077108-00077571 topic fed-batch uliGyW4B_GA-00296-00077572-00077880 fed-batch fermentation is a variation of uliGyW4B_GA-00297-00077881-00078057 batch fermentation where some of the uliGyW4B_GA-00298-00078058-00078196 ingredients are added during the uliGyW4B_GA-00299-00078197-00078474 fermentation this allows greater control uliGyW4B_GA-00300-00078475-00078657 over the stages of the process in uliGyW4B_GA-00301-00078658-00078897 particular production of secondary uliGyW4B_GA-00302-00078898-00079110 metabolites can be increased by adding a uliGyW4B_GA-00303-00079111-00079309 limited quantity of nutrients during the uliGyW4B_GA-00304-00079310-00079587 non exponential growth phase fed batch uliGyW4B_GA-00305-00079588-00079785 operations are often sandwiched between uliGyW4B_GA-00306-00079786-00080358 batch operations uliGyW4B_GA-00307-00080359-00080824 topic open uliGyW4B_GA-00308-00080825-00081028 the high cost of sterilizing the uliGyW4B_GA-00309-00081029-00081232 fermenter between batches can be avoided uliGyW4B_GA-00310-00081233-00081421 using various open fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00311-00081422-00081580 approaches that are able to resist uliGyW4B_GA-00312-00081581-00081871 contamination one is to use a naturally uliGyW4B_GA-00313-00081872-00082009 evolved mixed culture uliGyW4B_GA-00314-00082010-00082201 this is particularly favored in uliGyW4B_GA-00315-00082202-00082378 wastewater treatment since mixed uliGyW4B_GA-00316-00082379-00082612 populations can adapt to a wide variety uliGyW4B_GA-00317-00082613-00082900 of wastes thermophilic bacteria can uliGyW4B_GA-00318-00082901-00083119 produce lactic acid at temperatures of uliGyW4B_GA-00319-00083120-00083371 around 50 degrees Celsius sufficient to uliGyW4B_GA-00320-00083372-00083572 discourage microbial contamination and uliGyW4B_GA-00321-00083573-00083728 ethanol has been produced at a uliGyW4B_GA-00322-00083729-00084040 temperature of 70 degrees Celsius this uliGyW4B_GA-00323-00084041-00084268 is just below its boiling point 78 uliGyW4B_GA-00324-00084269-00084463 degrees Celsius making it easy to uliGyW4B_GA-00325-00084464-00084754 extract pala philic bacteria can produce uliGyW4B_GA-00326-00084755-00085015 bio plastics in hypersaline conditions uliGyW4B_GA-00327-00085016-00085285 solid state fermentation adds a small uliGyW4B_GA-00328-00085286-00085513 amount of water to a solid substrate it uliGyW4B_GA-00329-00085514-00085720 is widely used in the food industry to uliGyW4B_GA-00330-00085721-00085942 produce flavors enzymes and organic uliGyW4B_GA-00331-00085943-00086473 acids uliGyW4B_GA-00332-00086474-00086982 topic continuous uliGyW4B_GA-00333-00086983-00087249 in continuous fermentation substrates uliGyW4B_GA-00334-00087250-00087435 are added and final products removed uliGyW4B_GA-00335-00087436-00087700 continuously there are three varieties uliGyW4B_GA-00336-00087701-00087954 hemostats which hold nutrient levels uliGyW4B_GA-00337-00087955-00088167 constant turbid Oh stats which keeps uliGyW4B_GA-00338-00088168-00088341 cell mass constant and plug flow uliGyW4B_GA-00339-00088342-00088515 reactors in which the culture medium uliGyW4B_GA-00340-00088516-00088710 flows steadily through a tube while the uliGyW4B_GA-00341-00088711-00088881 cells are recycled from the outlet to uliGyW4B_GA-00342-00088882-00089132 the inlet if the process works well uliGyW4B_GA-00343-00089133-00089288 there is a steady flow of feed and uliGyW4B_GA-00344-00089289-00089487 effluent and the costs of repeatedly uliGyW4B_GA-00345-00089488-00089766 setting up a batch are avoided also it uliGyW4B_GA-00346-00089767-00089957 can prolong the exponential growth phase uliGyW4B_GA-00347-00089958-00090159 and avoid byproducts that inhibit the uliGyW4B_GA-00348-00090160-00090363 reactions by continuously removing them uliGyW4B_GA-00349-00090364-00090624 however it is difficult to maintain a uliGyW4B_GA-00350-00090625-00090846 steady state and avoid contamination and uliGyW4B_GA-00351-00090847-00091146 the design tends to be complex typically uliGyW4B_GA-00352-00091147-00091335 the fermenter must run for over 500 uliGyW4B_GA-00353-00091336-00091554 hours to be more economical than batch uliGyW4B_GA-00354-00091555-00092145 processors uliGyW4B_GA-00355-00092146-00092734 topic history of human use uliGyW4B_GA-00356-00092735-00093013 the use of fermentation particularly for uliGyW4B_GA-00357-00093014-00093184 beverages has existed since the uliGyW4B_GA-00358-00093185-00093412 Neolithic and has been documented dating uliGyW4B_GA-00359-00093413-00093931 from 7,000 6 600 BCE in Jiahu China 5000 uliGyW4B_GA-00360-00093932-00094198 BCE in India Ayurveda mentions many uliGyW4B_GA-00361-00094199-00094561 medicated wines 6000 BCE in Georgia 30 uliGyW4B_GA-00362-00094562-00094960 150 BCE in ancient Egypt 3000 BCE in uliGyW4B_GA-00363-00094961-00095314 Babylon 2,000 BCE in pre-hispanic Mexico uliGyW4B_GA-00364-00095315-00095695 and 1500 BC in Sudan fermented foods uliGyW4B_GA-00365-00095696-00095926 have a religious significance in Judaism uliGyW4B_GA-00366-00095927-00096163 and Christianity the Baltic Godhra uliGyW4B_GA-00367-00096164-00096340 Gerdes was worshipped as the agent of uliGyW4B_GA-00368-00096341-00096751 fermentation in 1837 Charles Kennard de uliGyW4B_GA-00369-00096752-00096946 Latour Theodore chuan and Friedrich uliGyW4B_GA-00370-00096947-00097114 traugott cut-scene independently uliGyW4B_GA-00371-00097115-00097330 published papers concluding as a result uliGyW4B_GA-00372-00097331-00097564 of microscopic investigations that yeast uliGyW4B_GA-00373-00097565-00097768 is a living organism that reproduces by uliGyW4B_GA-00374-00097769-00098056 budding Schwann boiled grape juice to uliGyW4B_GA-00375-00098057-00098203 kill the yeast and found that no uliGyW4B_GA-00376-00098204-00098392 fermentation would occur until new yeast uliGyW4B_GA-00377-00098393-00098683 was added however a lot of chemists uliGyW4B_GA-00378-00098684-00098914 including Antoine Lavoisier continued to uliGyW4B_GA-00379-00098915-00099112 view fermentation as a simple chemical uliGyW4B_GA-00380-00099113-00099298 reaction and rejected the notion that uliGyW4B_GA-00381-00099299-00099562 living organisms could be involved this uliGyW4B_GA-00382-00099563-00099781 was seen as a reversion to vitalism and uliGyW4B_GA-00383-00099782-00099897 was lampooned in an anonymous uliGyW4B_GA-00384-00099898-00100153 publication by Justus von Liebig and uliGyW4B_GA-00385-00100154-00100237 friedrich wöhler uliGyW4B_GA-00386-00100238-00100414 the turning point came when Louis uliGyW4B_GA-00387-00100415-00100840 Pasteur 1822 to 1895 during the 1850s uliGyW4B_GA-00388-00100841-00101116 and 1860s repeated Schwan's experiments uliGyW4B_GA-00389-00101117-00101260 and showed that fermentation is uliGyW4B_GA-00390-00101261-00101458 initiated by living organisms in a uliGyW4B_GA-00391-00101459-00101857 series of investigations in 1857 pistou uliGyW4B_GA-00392-00101858-00102001 arrggh showed that lactic acid uliGyW4B_GA-00393-00102002-00102178 fermentation is caused by living uliGyW4B_GA-00394-00102179-00102534 organisms in 1860 he demonstrated that uliGyW4B_GA-00395-00102535-00102742 bacteria caused souring in milk a uliGyW4B_GA-00396-00102743-00102940 process formerly thought to be merely a uliGyW4B_GA-00397-00102941-00103102 chemical change and his work in uliGyW4B_GA-00398-00103103-00103321 identifying the role of microorganisms uliGyW4B_GA-00399-00103322-00103531 in food spoilage led to the process of uliGyW4B_GA-00400-00103532-00103888 pasteurization in 1877 working to uliGyW4B_GA-00401-00103889-00104023 improve the French brewing industry uliGyW4B_GA-00402-00104024-00104251 pistou published his famous paper on uliGyW4B_GA-00403-00104252-00104583 fermentation etudes sur la bière which uliGyW4B_GA-00404-00104584-00104890 was translated into English in 1879 s uliGyW4B_GA-00405-00104891-00105214 studies on fermentation he defined uliGyW4B_GA-00406-00105215-00105490 fermentation incorrectly as life without uliGyW4B_GA-00407-00105491-00105759 air but correctly showed that specific uliGyW4B_GA-00408-00105760-00105991 types of microorganisms cause specific uliGyW4B_GA-00409-00105992-00106108 types of fermentation uliGyW4B_GA-00410-00106108-00106377 and specific end products although uliGyW4B_GA-00411-00106378-00106602 showing fermentation to be the result of uliGyW4B_GA-00412-00106603-00106809 the action of living microorganisms was uliGyW4B_GA-00413-00106810-00106996 a breakthrough it did not explain the uliGyW4B_GA-00414-00106997-00107166 basic nature of the fermentation process uliGyW4B_GA-00415-00107167-00107382 or prove that it is caused by the uliGyW4B_GA-00416-00107383-00107575 microorganisms that appear to be always uliGyW4B_GA-00417-00107576-00107899 present many scientists including Pistor uliGyW4B_GA-00418-00107900-00108100 had unsuccessfully attempted to extract uliGyW4B_GA-00419-00108101-00108326 the fermentation enzyme from yeast uliGyW4B_GA-00420-00108327-00108664 success came in 1897 when the German uliGyW4B_GA-00421-00108665-00108889 chemist Eduard Buchner ground up yeast uliGyW4B_GA-00422-00108890-00109099 extracted a juice from them then found uliGyW4B_GA-00423-00109100-00109389 to his amazement that this dead liquid uliGyW4B_GA-00424-00109390-00109588 would ferment a sugar solution forming uliGyW4B_GA-00425-00109589-00109809 carbon dioxide and alcohol much like uliGyW4B_GA-00426-00109810-00110076 living yeasts Buechner x' results are uliGyW4B_GA-00427-00110077-00110206 considered to mark the birth of uliGyW4B_GA-00428-00110207-00110541 biochemistry the unorganized ferments uliGyW4B_GA-00429-00110542-00110784 behaved just like the organized ones uliGyW4B_GA-00430-00110785-00111049 from that time on the term enzyme came uliGyW4B_GA-00431-00111050-00111295 to be applied to all ferments it was uliGyW4B_GA-00432-00111296-00111475 then understood that fermentation is uliGyW4B_GA-00433-00111476-00111660 caused by enzymes that are produced by uliGyW4B_GA-00434-00111661-00112051 microorganisms in 1907 Buechner won the uliGyW4B_GA-00435-00112052-00112254 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his work uliGyW4B_GA-00436-00112255-00112450 advances in microbiology and uliGyW4B_GA-00437-00112451-00112665 fermentation technology have continued uliGyW4B_GA-00438-00112666-00112900 steadily up until the present for uliGyW4B_GA-00439-00112901-00113158 example in the 1930s it was discovered uliGyW4B_GA-00440-00113158-00113379 that microorganisms could be mutated uliGyW4B_GA-00441-00113380-00113575 with physical and chemical treatments to uliGyW4B_GA-00442-00113576-00113727 be higher yielding faster growing uliGyW4B_GA-00443-00113728-00113964 tolerant of less oxygen and able to use uliGyW4B_GA-00444-00113965-00114216 a more concentrated medium strain uliGyW4B_GA-00445-00114217-00114448 selection and hybridization developed as uliGyW4B_GA-00446-00114449-00114633 well affecting most modern food 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for a statement v2iVxNrtBUA-00003-00000791-00001118 on the granting of the mandate by the v2iVxNrtBUA-00004-00001119-00001460 Council for the EU US trade talks and v2iVxNrtBUA-00005-00001461-00001798 she's willing also to take a few v2iVxNrtBUA-00006-00001800-00002059 questions before we switch into midday v2iVxNrtBUA-00007-00002060-00002414 mode commissioner thank you very much v2iVxNrtBUA-00008-00002415-00002537 good day everybody v2iVxNrtBUA-00009-00002538-00002873 buzu that's the new greeting sentence v2iVxNrtBUA-00010-00002874-00003125 the European member states have this v2iVxNrtBUA-00011-00003126-00003320 morning given their green light to the v2iVxNrtBUA-00012-00003321-00003503 European Commission to open negotiations v2iVxNrtBUA-00013-00003504-00003695 for a limited trade agreement with the v2iVxNrtBUA-00014-00003696-00003902 United States and I welcome this v2iVxNrtBUA-00015-00003903-00004129 decision wholeheartedly we are now ready v2iVxNrtBUA-00016-00004130-00004336 to move ahead into the next phase of EU v2iVxNrtBUA-00017-00004337-00004645 us relations as you know you recall v2iVxNrtBUA-00018-00004646-00004865 President Trump and President Juncker v2iVxNrtBUA-00019-00004866-00005108 met last July in the White House and v2iVxNrtBUA-00020-00005109-00005281 they agreed to launch a positive v2iVxNrtBUA-00021-00005282-00005552 transatlantic trade agenda and this was v2iVxNrtBUA-00022-00005553-00005852 an essential step to avoid a potentially v2iVxNrtBUA-00023-00005853-00006077 damaging trade war and end a v2iVxNrtBUA-00024-00006078-00006338 self-defeating cycle of measures and v2iVxNrtBUA-00025-00006339-00006620 countermeasures the parameters of this v2iVxNrtBUA-00026-00006620-00006869 agreement were outlined very clearly in v2iVxNrtBUA-00027-00006870-00007106 the joint statement the text set out a v2iVxNrtBUA-00028-00007106-00007264 number of areas where both sides v2iVxNrtBUA-00029-00007265-00007420 committed consider we would deliver v2iVxNrtBUA-00030-00007422-00007648 quick tangible benefits to citizens and v2iVxNrtBUA-00031-00007650-00007988 businesses on both side and the summit v2iVxNrtBUA-00032-00007989-00008159 also established an executive working v2iVxNrtBUA-00033-00008159-00008384 group led by myself on the EU side and v2iVxNrtBUA-00034-00008385-00008542 ambassador light Iser v2iVxNrtBUA-00035-00008543-00008663 on the other side and we have already v2iVxNrtBUA-00036-00008664-00008873 met several times and work is v2iVxNrtBUA-00037-00008874-00009149 progressing in several areas but of v2iVxNrtBUA-00038-00009150-00009439 course today step is crucial because it v2iVxNrtBUA-00039-00009440-00009599 now permits the Commission to enter into v2iVxNrtBUA-00040-00009600-00009884 formal trade negotiations I would like v2iVxNrtBUA-00041-00009885-00010034 to be very clear about what's in these v2iVxNrtBUA-00042-00010035-00010238 negotiations and what's out because v2iVxNrtBUA-00043-00010239-00010556 there seems to be some confusion the v2iVxNrtBUA-00044-00010557-00010799 council adopted two sets of negotiating v2iVxNrtBUA-00045-00010800-00011038 directive this morning one covers a v2iVxNrtBUA-00046-00011039-00011267 trade agreement strictly focused on v2iVxNrtBUA-00047-00011268-00011585 industrial goods and the second set of v2iVxNrtBUA-00048-00011586-00011774 directive cover conformity assessment v2iVxNrtBUA-00049-00011775-00012206 which is May it aims to make easier for v2iVxNrtBUA-00050-00012207-00012403 companies to prove their products that v2iVxNrtBUA-00051-00012404-00012578 they meet the technical requirements on v2iVxNrtBUA-00052-00012579-00012886 both sides of the Atlantic we are also v2iVxNrtBUA-00053-00012887-00013118 engaged with the US in other areas where v2iVxNrtBUA-00054-00013119-00013274 we already have authority from the v2iVxNrtBUA-00055-00013275-00013335 Council v2iVxNrtBUA-00056-00013336-00013581 or do not need a formal mandate like in v2iVxNrtBUA-00057-00013582-00013769 the feed of regulatory cooperation v2iVxNrtBUA-00058-00013769-00014102 Pharmacy pharmaceuticals medical devices v2iVxNrtBUA-00059-00014103-00014376 standardization practices and we're also v2iVxNrtBUA-00060-00014377-00014625 working with US and Japan on the v2iVxNrtBUA-00061-00014626-00014916 updating of WTO Rubik and we have met v2iVxNrtBUA-00062-00014916-00015069 several times and we're making progress v2iVxNrtBUA-00063-00015069-00015336 there as well so we are convinced from v2iVxNrtBUA-00064-00015337-00015549 the inside that this agreement will be v2iVxNrtBUA-00065-00015550-00015794 win-win like all trade deals should be v2iVxNrtBUA-00066-00015794-00016071 economic analysis shows that eu-us v2iVxNrtBUA-00067-00016072-00016299 agreement on eliminating tariffs on v2iVxNrtBUA-00068-00016300-00016620 industrial goods would increase EU v2iVxNrtBUA-00069-00016621-00016989 exports to the US by 8% and US exports v2iVxNrtBUA-00070-00016990-00017511 to the by 9% and one thing that is also v2iVxNrtBUA-00071-00017512-00017694 in the mandate is a commitment from v2iVxNrtBUA-00072-00017695-00017937 Commission side to examine further the v2iVxNrtBUA-00073-00017938-00018129 potential economic environmental and v2iVxNrtBUA-00074-00018130-00018363 social impacts of the agreement and this v2iVxNrtBUA-00075-00018364-00018636 will take place during this year and v2iVxNrtBUA-00076-00018637-00018810 take into account our international v2iVxNrtBUA-00077-00018811-00018993 agreements such as the prior Paris v2iVxNrtBUA-00078-00018994-00019362 Accord on climate so what is not in what v2iVxNrtBUA-00079-00019363-00019581 agriculture will certainly not be part v2iVxNrtBUA-00080-00019582-00019827 of these negotiations this is a red line v2iVxNrtBUA-00081-00019828-00020069 for Europe and you will not find any v2iVxNrtBUA-00082-00020070-00020277 mention of this in our mandate this was v2iVxNrtBUA-00083-00020278-00020436 discussed by the presidents in v2iVxNrtBUA-00084-00020437-00020661 Washington and where they clearly agreed v2iVxNrtBUA-00085-00020662-00020889 that that would not be part of the talks v2iVxNrtBUA-00086-00020890-00021119 some issues of interest to Europe like v2iVxNrtBUA-00087-00021120-00021264 the public procurement were also v2iVxNrtBUA-00088-00021265-00021569 accepted so if you look closely you will v2iVxNrtBUA-00089-00021570-00021729 also see that a certain four letter v2iVxNrtBUA-00090-00021730-00022014 acronym is absent from these talks it v2iVxNrtBUA-00091-00022015-00022209 has always been clear to us in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00092-00022210-00022392 Commission that this is a completely new v2iVxNrtBUA-00093-00022393-00022659 set of negotiations TTIP is in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00094-00022660-00023001 freezer and the fact that TTIP is v2iVxNrtBUA-00095-00023002-00023280 obsolete is explicitly mentioned in an v2iVxNrtBUA-00096-00023281-00023466 article in the council decision to v2iVxNrtBUA-00097-00023467-00023643 launch the negotiations as adopted this v2iVxNrtBUA-00098-00023644-00023919 morning so on the process I would like v2iVxNrtBUA-00099-00023920-00024093 to thank the romanian presidency who did v2iVxNrtBUA-00100-00024094-00024324 a good job here and commend the council v2iVxNrtBUA-00101-00024325-00024497 on their transparency in agreeing to v2iVxNrtBUA-00102-00024498-00024681 publish the final version on the mandate v2iVxNrtBUA-00103-00024682-00024846 I believe it's already out there for you v2iVxNrtBUA-00104-00024847-00025050 to see the Commission has the practice v2iVxNrtBUA-00105-00025051-00025239 as you know to publish our draft v2iVxNrtBUA-00106-00025240-00025527 mandates since some time and it's v2iVxNrtBUA-00107-00025528-00025680 important that everybody with an v2iVxNrtBUA-00108-00025681-00025859 interest in these negotiations can v2iVxNrtBUA-00109-00025860-00026189 follow it so Member States MEP S will of v2iVxNrtBUA-00110-00026191-00026388 course be consulted regularly in this v2iVxNrtBUA-00111-00026389-00026652 process the mandates agreed today v2iVxNrtBUA-00112-00026652-00026719 reflect v2iVxNrtBUA-00113-00026720-00026887 the fact that their concerns have been v2iVxNrtBUA-00114-00026888-00027145 taking into account and we will continue v2iVxNrtBUA-00115-00027145-00027324 a regular dialogue with civil society v2iVxNrtBUA-00116-00027325-00027667 transparency and inclusivity on a non v2iVxNrtBUA-00117-00027668-00027933 negotiating negotiable parts of the v2iVxNrtBUA-00118-00027935-00028156 Commission's way of doing trades so I v2iVxNrtBUA-00119-00028157-00028288 will now get in contact with our v2iVxNrtBUA-00120-00028289-00028432 American partners with a view to v2iVxNrtBUA-00121-00028433-00028627 organizing a date for the first round as v2iVxNrtBUA-00122-00028627-00029552 soon as possible so Europe is ready v2iVxNrtBUA-00123-00029554-00030333 right can you hear me yes a question on v2iVxNrtBUA-00124-00030335-00030714 the content of the mandate days in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00125-00030716-00030955 mandate the member states asked the v2iVxNrtBUA-00126-00030956-00031387 Commission you to take into rigor into v2iVxNrtBUA-00127-00031388-00031669 regards certain sensitivities especially v2iVxNrtBUA-00128-00031670-00032110 in the in the for the energy intensive v2iVxNrtBUA-00129-00032111-00032344 products and also the differences in v2iVxNrtBUA-00130-00032345-00032677 regulatory systems between the EU and v2iVxNrtBUA-00131-00032677-00032985 the US my question is how in practice v2iVxNrtBUA-00132-00032986-00033274 would you like to meet this requirement v2iVxNrtBUA-00133-00033275-00033514 and also could you give us some examples v2iVxNrtBUA-00134-00033515-00033844 of these products that you see as energy v2iVxNrtBUA-00135-00033845-00034165 intensive at the and you might want to v2iVxNrtBUA-00136-00034166-00034480 exclude them from full liberalisation v2iVxNrtBUA-00137-00034481-00034819 and also a question on on Boeing it's v2iVxNrtBUA-00138-00034820-00035152 also related to the u.s. the WTO v2iVxNrtBUA-00139-00035153-00035598 approved last week the report in which v2iVxNrtBUA-00140-00035599-00036318 they found the US had haven't actually v2iVxNrtBUA-00141-00036319-00036724 removed certain illegal subsidies to v2iVxNrtBUA-00142-00036725-00037165 Boeing and this gave the you the right v2iVxNrtBUA-00143-00037166-00037542 to retaliate to take some some v2iVxNrtBUA-00144-00037543-00037864 countermeasures in what way and how fast v2iVxNrtBUA-00145-00037865-00038416 do you plan to to act thank you thank v2iVxNrtBUA-00146-00038417-00038590 you very much on your first question v2iVxNrtBUA-00147-00038591-00038785 well we haven't started negotiating yet v2iVxNrtBUA-00148-00038786-00038995 in all negotiations even if this is a v2iVxNrtBUA-00149-00038996-00039235 limited one there are sensitivities from v2iVxNrtBUA-00150-00039236-00039448 each side of the table and the first v2iVxNrtBUA-00151-00039449-00039748 meeting it is not agreed yet but at the v2iVxNrtBUA-00152-00039749-00039904 first meeting when we start to go sating v2iVxNrtBUA-00153-00039905-00040041 these are the things that v2iVxNrtBUA-00154-00040042-00040197 start talking about so I'm not in a v2iVxNrtBUA-00155-00040198-00040389 position to answer that at the moment v2iVxNrtBUA-00156-00040390-00040572 but of course once we have started v2iVxNrtBUA-00157-00040573-00040887 negotiating we will inform you regularly v2iVxNrtBUA-00158-00040888-00041085 and we will as we always do publish some v2iVxNrtBUA-00159-00041086-00041358 reason negotiation rants etc on your v2iVxNrtBUA-00160-00041359-00041634 second question that is correct the the v2iVxNrtBUA-00161-00041635-00041922 Boeing Airbus case has been going on for v2iVxNrtBUA-00162-00041923-00042108 many many years is it fifteen or sixteen v2iVxNrtBUA-00163-00042109-00042519 years between the EU and the US and they v2iVxNrtBUA-00164-00042520-00042966 have both both criticized EU and and the v2iVxNrtBUA-00165-00042967-00043341 u.s. there we are preparing a list for v2iVxNrtBUA-00166-00043342-00043719 that with products it will be published v2iVxNrtBUA-00167-00043720-00044073 on Wednesday for consultation as is the v2iVxNrtBUA-00168-00044074-00044271 norm and the rule by the WTO so we v2iVxNrtBUA-00169-00044272-00044409 always follow this of course there will v2iVxNrtBUA-00170-00044410-00044571 be a technical briefing at that time by v2iVxNrtBUA-00171-00044572-00044667 the director-general v2iVxNrtBUA-00172-00044668-00044871 and then you will also know the content v2iVxNrtBUA-00173-00044872-00045021 of the practice we're finalizing this v2iVxNrtBUA-00174-00045022-00045165 list it will be published on Wednesday v2iVxNrtBUA-00175-00045166-00045795 okay then I had the gene that she runs v2iVxNrtBUA-00176-00045796-00046122 did Financial Times over here so two v2iVxNrtBUA-00177-00046123-00046302 questions if I may I'm firstly v2iVxNrtBUA-00178-00046303-00046443 Commissioner you mentioned that the v2iVxNrtBUA-00179-00046444-00046587 talks will start as soon as possible v2iVxNrtBUA-00180-00046588-00046749 what does that mean in practice what v2iVxNrtBUA-00181-00046750-00046956 will the talks start before or after the v2iVxNrtBUA-00182-00046957-00047163 EU elections because that does seem to v2iVxNrtBUA-00183-00047164-00047394 have been a crucial thing in in the mind v2iVxNrtBUA-00184-00047395-00047613 of at least one member state and v2iVxNrtBUA-00185-00047614-00048021 secondly gotta choose now yeah I mean v2iVxNrtBUA-00186-00048022-00048189 what chance do you actually see that at v2iVxNrtBUA-00187-00048190-00048342 the end of this the US Congress would v2iVxNrtBUA-00188-00048343-00048537 ever agree to approve a trade deal which v2iVxNrtBUA-00189-00048538-00048729 doesn't include agriculture it seems to v2iVxNrtBUA-00190-00048730-00048918 be in such a fundamental demand for them v2iVxNrtBUA-00191-00048919-00049122 what prognosis does this actually have v2iVxNrtBUA-00192-00049123-00049320 of ever being approved on the US side v2iVxNrtBUA-00193-00049321-00049665 thank you thank you for those questions v2iVxNrtBUA-00194-00049666-00049902 well the mandate was adopted this v2iVxNrtBUA-00195-00049903-00050157 morning and I will reach out as soon as v2iVxNrtBUA-00196-00050158-00050451 they wake up in the u.s. to try to be in v2iVxNrtBUA-00197-00050452-00050613 contact with Ambassador Light ISO to v2iVxNrtBUA-00198-00050614-00050850 inform him about this and see if we can v2iVxNrtBUA-00199-00050851-00051000 have more clarity and when we can meet v2iVxNrtBUA-00200-00051001-00051192 to have the first talk on this we have v2iVxNrtBUA-00201-00051193-00051351 of course met many times and discussed v2iVxNrtBUA-00202-00051352-00051579 other items but this is I have not been v2iVxNrtBUA-00203-00051579-00051744 able to discuss these issues before v2iVxNrtBUA-00204-00051745-00051900 formal mandates obviously so I don't v2iVxNrtBUA-00205-00051901-00052125 have a date it's clearly in their hands v2iVxNrtBUA-00206-00052126-00052400 we already as soon as as they are on v2iVxNrtBUA-00207-00052401-00052973 agriculture yes the Congress has a v2iVxNrtBUA-00208-00052974-00053322 different template for for these for all v2iVxNrtBUA-00209-00053323-00053429 negotiations v2iVxNrtBUA-00210-00053430-00053591 but it has been very clear from the v2iVxNrtBUA-00211-00053592-00053784 beginning and I was with the president v2iVxNrtBUA-00212-00053785-00053991 in the White House that agriculture is v2iVxNrtBUA-00213-00053991-00054210 not in this is limited but still v2iVxNrtBUA-00214-00054211-00054488 meaningful win-win negotiations that we v2iVxNrtBUA-00215-00054489-00054626 are offering and that was agreed between v2iVxNrtBUA-00216-00054627-00054911 the two presidents so that is what we v2iVxNrtBUA-00217-00054912-00055187 will do no more no less and we are ready v2iVxNrtBUA-00218-00055188-00055359 to do it and I think that can once we v2iVxNrtBUA-00219-00055360-00055584 start I think that can go quite quickly v2iVxNrtBUA-00220-00055585-00055781 so it will be for the u.s. to handle v2iVxNrtBUA-00221-00055782-00056079 their their internal procedures this is v2iVxNrtBUA-00222-00056079-00056354 the moment for me to say is use not yet v2iVxNrtBUA-00223-00056355-00056936 covered please yes no first you're v2iVxNrtBUA-00224-00056937-00057611 calling it then yes go ahead yes this is v2iVxNrtBUA-00225-00057612-00057848 work me me lungs clear with the New York v2iVxNrtBUA-00226-00057849-00058244 Times France and a considerable part of v2iVxNrtBUA-00227-00058245-00058596 the European Parliament opposes the v2iVxNrtBUA-00228-00058597-00058890 start of these negotiations and they say v2iVxNrtBUA-00229-00058891-00059162 the Commission is scared of the threat v2iVxNrtBUA-00230-00059163-00059576 of tariffs on cars and it's prepared to v2iVxNrtBUA-00231-00059577-00059819 negotiate with a gun to its head despite v2iVxNrtBUA-00232-00059820-00060104 the fact that the US is leaving the v2iVxNrtBUA-00233-00060105-00060317 Paris Accords what is your reaction to v2iVxNrtBUA-00234-00060318-00060597 that this commission is not afraid of v2iVxNrtBUA-00235-00060598-00060834 anything you should have known this by v2iVxNrtBUA-00236-00060835-00061169 these four years right but but what we v2iVxNrtBUA-00237-00061170-00061337 are doing is that we are amply v2iVxNrtBUA-00238-00061338-00061631 implementing the decision that was in v2iVxNrtBUA-00239-00061632-00061986 the White House the 25th of July last v2iVxNrtBUA-00240-00061987-00062241 year which was fully anchored with the v2iVxNrtBUA-00241-00062241-00062438 European Council a month before there v2iVxNrtBUA-00242-00062439-00062750 was a meeting in in Sofia where the the v2iVxNrtBUA-00243-00062751-00063092 the conclusions indicated this direction v2iVxNrtBUA-00244-00063093-00063380 and it has been confirmed and anchored v2iVxNrtBUA-00245-00063381-00063587 with the European Parliament with Member v2iVxNrtBUA-00246-00063588-00063818 States with the trade ministers and it v2iVxNrtBUA-00247-00063819-00064049 was also confirmed at the March council v2iVxNrtBUA-00248-00064050-00064374 that EU should go forward implementing v2iVxNrtBUA-00249-00064375-00064625 the white house agreement from July from v2iVxNrtBUA-00250-00064626-00064844 the European Council so we are just v2iVxNrtBUA-00251-00064845-00065109 following very very consistently what we v2iVxNrtBUA-00252-00065110-00065351 have said all the time I'm sorry that v2iVxNrtBUA-00253-00065352-00065490 the European Parliament didn't manage to v2iVxNrtBUA-00254-00065491-00065711 agree on a resolution you know as you v2iVxNrtBUA-00255-00065712-00065916 remember it was ot done there was no v2iVxNrtBUA-00256-00065917-00066159 resolution but I participated in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00257-00066160-00066465 debate many times and I've been to the v2iVxNrtBUA-00258-00066466-00066660 inter committee many times I'm aware of v2iVxNrtBUA-00259-00066661-00066707 some of the v2iVxNrtBUA-00260-00066708-00066936 situations and the fears that they had I v2iVxNrtBUA-00261-00066937-00067100 think they have been accommodated in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00262-00067101-00067286 mandate published this morning and v2iVxNrtBUA-00263-00067287-00067578 nevertheless we will of course work with v2iVxNrtBUA-00264-00067579-00067722 the the new Parliament and the new v2iVxNrtBUA-00265-00067723-00067925 intercom et as close as possible as we v2iVxNrtBUA-00266-00067926-00068648 do with any trade route now is your turn v2iVxNrtBUA-00267-00068649-00068943 Maxima with Politico and Miss monstrum v2iVxNrtBUA-00268-00068944-00069119 you said in January that a trade deal v2iVxNrtBUA-00269-00069120-00069257 with the United States could be done v2iVxNrtBUA-00270-00069258-00069351 quite quickly v2iVxNrtBUA-00271-00069352-00069557 how optimistic are you that it can be v2iVxNrtBUA-00272-00069558-00069753 done within the Younger Commission still v2iVxNrtBUA-00273-00069754-00069932 also against the backdrop of v2iVxNrtBUA-00274-00069933-00070146 disagreement over agriculture the v2iVxNrtBUA-00275-00070147-00070380 carrier fret and French opposition thank v2iVxNrtBUA-00276-00070381-00070426 you v2iVxNrtBUA-00277-00070427-00070767 well as I said the count the mandates v2iVxNrtBUA-00278-00070768-00071028 were adopted this morning so obviously v2iVxNrtBUA-00279-00071029-00071163 we haven't started yet now the ball is v2iVxNrtBUA-00280-00071164-00071340 in the court of the us to see where when v2iVxNrtBUA-00281-00071341-00071571 can we start if we agree to start I v2iVxNrtBUA-00282-00071572-00071688 think it can go quite quickly v2iVxNrtBUA-00283-00071689-00071846 this is there are sensitivities v2iVxNrtBUA-00284-00071847-00072222 absolutely but we can manage this quite v2iVxNrtBUA-00285-00072223-00072417 quickly and from from our side we are v2iVxNrtBUA-00286-00072418-00072563 definitely determined to do everything v2iVxNrtBUA-00287-00072564-00072738 we can to finish this under the ochre v2iVxNrtBUA-00288-00072739-00073480 Commission yes go ahead v2iVxNrtBUA-00289-00073481-00073685 Thank You margarita sand Thank You v2iVxNrtBUA-00290-00073686-00073937 Commissioner um your emphasis has been v2iVxNrtBUA-00291-00073938-00074090 on speed and being able to do this deal v2iVxNrtBUA-00292-00074091-00074399 quickly with that in mind how we be v2iVxNrtBUA-00293-00074400-00074606 involving Britain in these talks and v2iVxNrtBUA-00294-00074607-00074834 have the Americans previously expressed v2iVxNrtBUA-00295-00074835-00075032 any concern about the lymph of UK v2iVxNrtBUA-00296-00075033-00075257 participation we've brexit now being v2iVxNrtBUA-00297-00075258-00075467 kicked back to October 31st by the look v2iVxNrtBUA-00298-00075468-00075749 of it and when do you expect the Boeing v2iVxNrtBUA-00299-00075750-00075932 tariffs to apply to everyone including v2iVxNrtBUA-00300-00075933-00076355 the UK thank you very much so all these v2iVxNrtBUA-00301-00076356-00076571 questions but as long as UK is a member v2iVxNrtBUA-00302-00076572-00076733 of the European Union they will of v2iVxNrtBUA-00303-00076734-00076907 course be adequately informed and v2iVxNrtBUA-00304-00076908-00077279 engaged as any other member and here v2iVxNrtBUA-00305-00077280-00077867 closer Andres thank you very much more v2iVxNrtBUA-00306-00077868-00078061 criticism under-skilled from Madeira v2iVxNrtBUA-00307-00078062-00078482 Spain yes it's it's quite a follow up v2iVxNrtBUA-00308-00078483-00078728 from from the question of my colleague v2iVxNrtBUA-00309-00078729-00079163 regarding to the European Parliament not v2iVxNrtBUA-00310-00079164-00079424 mandate to to this negotiation so I v2iVxNrtBUA-00311-00079425-00079781 would like to ask you Commissioner would v2iVxNrtBUA-00312-00079782-00080294 you take care of the concerns of from v2iVxNrtBUA-00313-00080295-00080414 the European Parliament in this v2iVxNrtBUA-00314-00080415-00080612 negotiation with the United States I v2iVxNrtBUA-00315-00080613-00081023 mean then there was an enormous debt v2iVxNrtBUA-00316-00081024-00081215 because they were there were concerns at v2iVxNrtBUA-00317-00081216-00081467 the Parliament so would you listen to v2iVxNrtBUA-00318-00081468-00081875 these concerns there was no mandate v2iVxNrtBUA-00319-00081876-00082004 because there were too many differences v2iVxNrtBUA-00320-00082005-00082226 within the European Parliament so in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00321-00082227-00082418 end they voted down the whole resolution v2iVxNrtBUA-00322-00082419-00082622 so there is no resolution so what the v2iVxNrtBUA-00323-00082623-00082814 European Parliament thinks we don't know v2iVxNrtBUA-00324-00082815-00082982 we know what different groups v2iVxNrtBUA-00325-00082983-00083174 thinks on the different side but the v2iVxNrtBUA-00326-00083175-00083321 European Parliament has no view on this v2iVxNrtBUA-00327-00083322-00083591 those who did express some concerns I v2iVxNrtBUA-00328-00083592-00083891 think they are reflected in the mandate v2iVxNrtBUA-00329-00083892-00084173 for instance that that we before we v2iVxNrtBUA-00330-00084174-00084314 conclude this we have to solve the the v2iVxNrtBUA-00331-00084315-00084542 steel and aluminium issue and that that v2iVxNrtBUA-00332-00084543-00084794 should there be other tariffs imposed v2iVxNrtBUA-00333-00084795-00084932 under this tea there will be a v2iVxNrtBUA-00334-00084933-00085100 suspension of negotiations these were v2iVxNrtBUA-00335-00085101-00085283 things that came up very often in the v2iVxNrtBUA-00336-00085284-00085523 debate from people concerned and the v2iVxNrtBUA-00337-00085524-00085679 Romanian presidency have accommodated v2iVxNrtBUA-00338-00085680-00085829 that in the written you will if you v2iVxNrtBUA-00339-00085830-00085952 haven't have a look at it it's online v2iVxNrtBUA-00340-00085953-00086261 now so you can see this concludes our v2iVxNrtBUA-00341-00086262-00086489 press conference Thank You Commissioner v2iVxNrtBUA-00342-00086490-00086700 fingers-crossed well done v2iVxNrtBUA-00343-00086701-00086974 give me two seconds to accompany the v2iVxNrtBUA-00344-00086975-00087370 commissioner out and I'm coming for me v5o63eoNhJo-00001-00004284-00005095 so v5o63eoNhJo-00002-00005096-00005185 [Applause] v5o63eoNhJo-00003-00005186-00006973 [Music] v5o63eoNhJo-00004-00006973-00007167 [Applause] v5o63eoNhJo-00005-00007168-00007384 this v5qD1pqJXf4-00000-00000000-00000275 all right then Akshay I would uh you v5qD1pqJXf4-00001-00000276-00000467 know it was quite uh interesting v5qD1pqJXf4-00002-00000468-00000749 discussion so I'll wrap up the entire v5qD1pqJXf4-00003-00000750-00001037 talk you said that you need to be expert v5qD1pqJXf4-00004-00001038-00001289 in a domain you need to be you know do v5qD1pqJXf4-00005-00001290-00001427 not require a prior knowledge of v5qD1pqJXf4-00006-00001428-00001601 anything but you need to have that v5qD1pqJXf4-00007-00001602-00001768 learning approach to learning let's say v5qD1pqJXf4-00008-00001769-00001991 coding statistics math you should have v5qD1pqJXf4-00009-00001992-00002147 that approach to learn the things right v5qD1pqJXf4-00010-00002148-00002392 that would make your life easy third v5qD1pqJXf4-00011-00002393-00002692 thing you said is you should go for a v5qD1pqJXf4-00012-00002693-00002950 Blog you should go for do some projects v5qD1pqJXf4-00013-00002951-00003179 do some hands-on experience on it and v5qD1pqJXf4-00014-00003180-00003443 can get a fair idea about it right and v5qD1pqJXf4-00015-00003444-00003695 fifth thing is anyone can do it but you v5qD1pqJXf4-00016-00003696-00003875 should have that learning approach and v5qD1pqJXf4-00017-00003876-00004109 Learning Journey right absolutely oh v5qD1pqJXf4-00018-00004110-00004319 definitely we're gonna put down this all v5qD1pqJXf4-00019-00004320-00004606 points in our comment section as well so v5qD1pqJXf4-00020-00004607-00004799 and description so everybody will get a v5qD1pqJXf4-00021-00004800-00004949 fair idea about it so actually thank you v5qD1pqJXf4-00022-00004950-00005152 so much for joining our show and we're v5qD1pqJXf4-00023-00005153-00005309 really grateful to have you today thank v5qD1pqJXf4-00024-00005310-00005543 you so much Akshay and it was an v5qD1pqJXf4-00025-00005544-00005741 absolute pleasure rajendra thank you so v5qD1pqJXf4-00026-00005742-00005933 much for having me it was really an v5qD1pqJXf4-00027-00005934-00006227 honor and I hope whoever watches the v5qD1pqJXf4-00028-00006228-00006418 video they get an Insight they v5qD1pqJXf4-00029-00006419-00006587 understand that if you want to make a v5qD1pqJXf4-00030-00006588-00006851 career in AML you do not need any there v5qD1pqJXf4-00031-00006852-00007060 is no prerequisites for it you just need v5qD1pqJXf4-00032-00007061-00007259 one thing which is that learning mindset v5qD1pqJXf4-00033-00007259-00007517 and that ability that you know that v5qD1pqJXf4-00034-00007518-00007703 capability to solve some problems that's v5qD1pqJXf4-00035-00007704-00007978 it so all the best to all and thank you v5qD1pqJXf4-00036-00007979-00008191 so much rajendra for having me thank you v5qD1pqJXf4-00037-00008192-00008483 take care bye thank you bye-bye Take v5qD1pqJXf4-00038-00008484-00008774 Care thank you so much v6rr2ToVNLE-00000-00000006-00000145 what is good everybody welcome to an v6rr2ToVNLE-00001-00000146-00000361 epic my name toys video today we have v6rr2ToVNLE-00002-00000362-00000601 another dota w/e action figure setup for v6rr2ToVNLE-00003-00000602-00000941 you guys and today it is WWE clash of v6rr2ToVNLE-00004-00000942-00002288 Champions edition alright guys it is the v6rr2ToVNLE-00005-00002289-00002476 Thursday before a pay-per-view so you v6rr2ToVNLE-00006-00002477-00002608 guys know what that means it is time for v6rr2ToVNLE-00007-00002609-00002795 a brand new double w/e action figure v6rr2ToVNLE-00008-00002796-00002959 setup and this time it is clash of v6rr2ToVNLE-00009-00002960-00003109 Champions Edition I told you guys a v6rr2ToVNLE-00010-00003110-00003304 couple days ago we had another setup I v6rr2ToVNLE-00011-00003305-00003500 think it was on Monday maybe I said that v6rr2ToVNLE-00012-00003501-00003683 we were gonna have another setup for v6rr2ToVNLE-00013-00003684-00003838 today so we have the entire backstage v6rr2ToVNLE-00014-00003839-00004019 school you guys know how we already do I v6rr2ToVNLE-00015-00004020-00004184 can't show you the arena because we're v6rr2ToVNLE-00016-00004185-00004349 filming for MDT live so I have to keep v6rr2ToVNLE-00017-00004350-00004535 everything in the backstage area but it v6rr2ToVNLE-00018-00004536-00004724 is an epic setup today we got plenty of v6rr2ToVNLE-00019-00004725-00004874 things going on we got a brand new v6rr2ToVNLE-00020-00004875-00005060 custom in the house that I've not shown v6rr2ToVNLE-00021-00005061-00005183 you guys before we're gonna get some v6rr2ToVNLE-00022-00005184-00005395 detailed shots on that and it's gonna be v6rr2ToVNLE-00023-00005396-00005534 freakin epic man we got the full v6rr2ToVNLE-00024-00005535-00005722 backstage full I'm ready to break it v6rr2ToVNLE-00025-00005723-00005963 down way of clash of Champions 2019 v6rr2ToVNLE-00026-00005964-00006163 coming this Sunday and it should be a v6rr2ToVNLE-00027-00006164-00006359 solid show you know I'm not that high v6rr2ToVNLE-00028-00006360-00006547 for it but every time I'm not hype for v6rr2ToVNLE-00029-00006548-00006809 it they always deliver and they make me v6rr2ToVNLE-00030-00006809-00007025 very happy with their shows usually when v6rr2ToVNLE-00031-00007026-00007166 that goes down guys but let's go ahead v6rr2ToVNLE-00032-00007167-00007334 and dive into the setup and see what we v6rr2ToVNLE-00033-00007334-00007553 got going on so what we'll do first guys v6rr2ToVNLE-00034-00007554-00007771 we'll start off in the right side of the v6rr2ToVNLE-00035-00007772-00007909 set up this time and on the right side v6rr2ToVNLE-00036-00007911-00008074 guys you will see my boy Cedric v6rr2ToVNLE-00037-00008075-00008282 Alexander he is hitting the United v6rr2ToVNLE-00038-00008283-00008449 States Champion AJ Styles with that v6rr2ToVNLE-00039-00008450-00008614 lumbar check I think this is what we're v6rr2ToVNLE-00040-00008615-00008831 gonna see on Sunday but for now in our v6rr2ToVNLE-00041-00008832-00009035 setup right now guys we have the United v6rr2ToVNLE-00042-00009036-00009178 States Champion getting lumbar checked v6rr2ToVNLE-00043-00009179-00009359 out of this world one of my it's v6rr2ToVNLE-00044-00009360-00009496 probably my favorite finisher I'd say v6rr2ToVNLE-00045-00009497-00009674 next to the RKO probably my favorite v6rr2ToVNLE-00046-00009675-00009848 finisher and all wrestling right now I v6rr2ToVNLE-00047-00009849-00010064 just freaking love the lumbar check its v6rr2ToVNLE-00048-00010065-00010228 way it's definitely my favorite but you v6rr2ToVNLE-00049-00010229-00010471 guys will see that just beyond we have v6rr2ToVNLE-00050-00010472-00010639 the OC we have Luke Gallows & Karl v6rr2ToVNLE-00051-00010640-00010844 Anderson trying to come to the aid of AJ v6rr2ToVNLE-00052-00010845-00011081 style so if Cedric Alexander doesn't v6rr2ToVNLE-00053-00011082-00011203 want to get his butt looked he probably v6rr2ToVNLE-00054-00011204-00011405 needs to get up and get the hell out of v6rr2ToVNLE-00055-00011406-00011552 there before those guys get there so v6rr2ToVNLE-00056-00011553-00011731 Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson are on v6rr2ToVNLE-00057-00011732-00011795 their way v6rr2ToVNLE-00058-00011796-00011999 but for now AJ Styles is definitely v6rr2ToVNLE-00059-00012000-00012124 getting lumbar checking you can see the v6rr2ToVNLE-00060-00012125-00012284 United States Championship and his right v6rr2ToVNLE-00061-00012285-00012476 hand probably gonna fly away his other v6rr2ToVNLE-00062-00012477-00012535 hand right v6rr2ToVNLE-00063-00012536-00012718 they're just just what a beautiful shot v6rr2ToVNLE-00064-00012719-00012924 if we go just beyond that guys you will v6rr2ToVNLE-00065-00012925-00013093 see this tag-team that was thrown v6rr2ToVNLE-00066-00013094-00013258 together and they are battling for the v6rr2ToVNLE-00067-00013259-00013510 raw Tag Team Championships at clash of v6rr2ToVNLE-00068-00013511-00013675 Champions you have my boy Dolph Ziggler v6rr2ToVNLE-00069-00013676-00013984 and Bobby Roode here and you see Ziggler v6rr2ToVNLE-00070-00013985-00014119 you can see and look at him he's like v6rr2ToVNLE-00071-00014119-00014316 what the hell Brad and he know what he's v6rr2ToVNLE-00072-00014318-00014476 saying he said I don't know why the hell v6rr2ToVNLE-00073-00014477-00014632 were a team and that's that's what he v6rr2ToVNLE-00074-00014633-00014806 said they came up short they lose to v6rr2ToVNLE-00075-00014807-00015001 Seth Rollins and braun strowman is what v6rr2ToVNLE-00076-00015002-00015196 i'm predicting here in the set-up and v6rr2ToVNLE-00077-00015197-00015400 he's saying you know what why the head v6rr2ToVNLE-00078-00015401-00015565 wet why the hell are we a team man and v6rr2ToVNLE-00079-00015566-00015700 he's just like yeah Brad you're right I v6rr2ToVNLE-00080-00015701-00015841 don't I don't think we should be a team v6rr2ToVNLE-00081-00015841-00016054 in the so I don't know why you're a team v6rr2ToVNLE-00082-00016055-00016243 either right I honestly do not but you v6rr2ToVNLE-00083-00016244-00016422 know what we're gonna hopefully get a v6rr2ToVNLE-00084-00016423-00016576 good match out of these guys I just v6rr2ToVNLE-00085-00016577-00016693 don't understand why they throw them v6rr2ToVNLE-00086-00016694-00016872 together but you know they have a v6rr2ToVNLE-00087-00016873-00017050 frickin title opportunity so they better v6rr2ToVNLE-00088-00017051-00017227 make the most of it and try to capture v6rr2ToVNLE-00089-00017228-00017440 those raw Tag Team Championships in my v6rr2ToVNLE-00090-00017441-00017581 predictions video actually said that v6rr2ToVNLE-00091-00017582-00017731 they're going to win just because I v6rr2ToVNLE-00092-00017732-00017851 don't know where they're booking it but v6rr2ToVNLE-00093-00017852-00018040 for the setup sake I went with them v6rr2ToVNLE-00094-00018041-00018277 losing the titles if we go just beyond v6rr2ToVNLE-00095-00018278-00018463 that guys you will see Erick Rowan and v6rr2ToVNLE-00096-00018464-00018646 Eric Rowan is getting speared the hell v6rr2ToVNLE-00097-00018647-00018822 out of by the big dog Roman reigns v6rr2ToVNLE-00098-00018823-00019108 obviously they have a no DQ almost v6rr2ToVNLE-00099-00019109-00019353 vomited they have a no DQ match at clash v6rr2ToVNLE-00100-00019354-00019588 of Champions guys and I just thought v6rr2ToVNLE-00101-00019589-00019705 that this will be a good part of the v6rr2ToVNLE-00102-00019706-00019869 setup you know Erick Rowan you know been v6rr2ToVNLE-00103-00019870-00020019 beaten down on Roman reigns they got a v6rr2ToVNLE-00104-00020020-00020194 little in between fighting on Smackdown v6rr2ToVNLE-00105-00020195-00020325 live but I think the big dogs gonna v6rr2ToVNLE-00106-00020326-00020485 prevail here even though it'd be a huge v6rr2ToVNLE-00107-00020486-00020680 victory for Erick Rowan I think that the v6rr2ToVNLE-00108-00020681-00020821 big dog Roman reigns is going to v6rr2ToVNLE-00109-00020822-00021064 overcome the odds here win that no DQ v6rr2ToVNLE-00110-00021065-00021187 Mansion he's getting it started here v6rr2ToVNLE-00111-00021188-00021378 with a spear into the backstage area his v6rr2ToVNLE-00112-00021379-00021550 back then I guess just go crashing into v6rr2ToVNLE-00113-00021551-00021697 that storage unit and if you guys will v6rr2ToVNLE-00114-00021698-00021903 notice just beyond derek wroe and you v6rr2ToVNLE-00115-00021904-00022047 will see Daniel Bryan and he is v6rr2ToVNLE-00116-00022048-00022225 celebrating he's got the yes chant going v6rr2ToVNLE-00117-00022226-00022425 because he doesn't care he just wants v6rr2ToVNLE-00118-00022426-00022558 them to fight and you know hit him and v6rr2ToVNLE-00119-00022559-00022684 Erick Rowan have been getting into it v6rr2ToVNLE-00120-00022685-00022872 Erick Rowan choke slammed him through v6rr2ToVNLE-00121-00022873-00023044 that announce table so you know Daniel v6rr2ToVNLE-00122-00023045-00023272 Bryan's like yeah fu Erick Rowan how v6rr2ToVNLE-00123-00023273-00023416 about that Brad that's why it's got the v6rr2ToVNLE-00124-00023417-00023653 yes chant going and so that's all we got v6rr2ToVNLE-00125-00023654-00023844 going over there we we already showed v6rr2ToVNLE-00126-00023845-00024022 you guys the OC running the to the aid v6rr2ToVNLE-00127-00024023-00024202 of AJ style so we'll try to get beyond v6rr2ToVNLE-00128-00024203-00024381 that right here and we will show you v6rr2ToVNLE-00129-00024382-00024597 guys in the corner back here you will v6rr2ToVNLE-00130-00024598-00024856 see missus Alexa bliss and Nicki Cross v6rr2ToVNLE-00131-00024857-00025033 kind of hard to like get this shot right v6rr2ToVNLE-00132-00025034-00025306 here doing my best right there you guys v6rr2ToVNLE-00133-00025307-00025447 can see in the back you have a v6rr2ToVNLE-00134-00025448-00025671 pissed-off Alexa bliss and Nicki cross v6rr2ToVNLE-00135-00025672-00025850 is trying to explain to her you know v6rr2ToVNLE-00136-00025851-00025983 what the hell happened I have been v6rr2ToVNLE-00137-00025983-00026283 losing to fire and desire Mandy rose and v6rr2ToVNLE-00138-00026283-00026505 Sonya to Bill I have them both losing v6rr2ToVNLE-00139-00026506-00026814 their titles to them and over here and v6rr2ToVNLE-00140-00026814-00027048 over here to their left you will see the v6rr2ToVNLE-00141-00027049-00027249 new tag team champions Sonya Deville and v6rr2ToVNLE-00142-00027250-00027414 Mandy Rose with their beautiful women's v6rr2ToVNLE-00143-00027414-00027593 tag team championships even though the v6rr2ToVNLE-00144-00027594-00027792 titles are worth the John Brown probably v6rr2ToVNLE-00145-00027793-00027977 the most worthless titles in all of v6rr2ToVNLE-00146-00027978-00028152 double w/e the way they're treated I v6rr2ToVNLE-00147-00028152-00028340 think that they're going to capture man v6rr2ToVNLE-00148-00028341-00028452 hopefully we can build up some momentum v6rr2ToVNLE-00149-00028452-00028602 for those titles and actually make them v6rr2ToVNLE-00150-00028602-00028824 worth a damn but for now you know with v6rr2ToVNLE-00151-00028825-00028980 them on Alexa bliss and Nikki cross I v6rr2ToVNLE-00152-00028981-00029130 don't see that happening so I have them v6rr2ToVNLE-00153-00029131-00029310 taking those Championships away and v6rr2ToVNLE-00154-00029311-00029483 Alexa bliss is pissed off Nikki Cross v6rr2ToVNLE-00155-00029484-00029649 trying to explain herself probably gonna v6rr2ToVNLE-00156-00029650-00029840 break up there but anyways let's move on v6rr2ToVNLE-00157-00029841-00029996 with the set up if we go into the middle v6rr2ToVNLE-00158-00029997-00030371 guys you will see we have ft RKO we have v6rr2ToVNLE-00159-00030372-00030612 the revival and rain Dior my boy Randy v6rr2ToVNLE-00160-00030613-00030786 Orton going after the dub dubby league v6rr2ToVNLE-00161-00030787-00031046 championship in celebratory pose right v6rr2ToVNLE-00162-00031047-00031314 here you guys know how he does and he is v6rr2ToVNLE-00163-00031314-00031487 with his boys the revival right now I v6rr2ToVNLE-00164-00031488-00031623 don't know if they're gonna keep this as v6rr2ToVNLE-00165-00031624-00031767 a main stable you know they've kind of v6rr2ToVNLE-00166-00031768-00031874 been hanging around you know they've v6rr2ToVNLE-00167-00031875-00032010 been beating up on the new day beating v6rr2ToVNLE-00168-00032011-00032361 up on Kofi and I think that this is this v6rr2ToVNLE-00169-00032362-00032546 could be the the scene at clash of v6rr2ToVNLE-00170-00032547-00032664 Champions you know I hear a lot of v6rr2ToVNLE-00171-00032664-00032877 people saying that new day is gonna drop v6rr2ToVNLE-00172-00032878-00033048 their Smackdown live tag titles Kofi v6rr2ToVNLE-00173-00033049-00033218 Kingston's gonna drop the WWE v6rr2ToVNLE-00174-00033219-00033405 championship and this is what we could v6rr2ToVNLE-00175-00033406-00033543 see at the end of class or champions v6rr2ToVNLE-00176-00033544-00033801 could we have one stable passing off v6rr2ToVNLE-00177-00033802-00034008 their titles to another here and you v6rr2ToVNLE-00178-00034009-00034190 could see here Kofi Kingston Xavier v6rr2ToVNLE-00179-00034191-00034476 woods and Big E all laid out to waste v6rr2ToVNLE-00180-00034477-00034731 and this is what I would think I think I v6rr2ToVNLE-00181-00034732-00034923 predicted new data to retain the v6rr2ToVNLE-00182-00034924-00035096 Smackdown live Tag Team Championships v6rr2ToVNLE-00183-00035097-00035370 but I I genuinely think and I believe v6rr2ToVNLE-00184-00035371-00035543 and I think it should be a thing I think v6rr2ToVNLE-00185-00035544-00035712 Randy Orton should take that W each v6rr2ToVNLE-00186-00035713-00035843 championship guys I just think that's v6rr2ToVNLE-00187-00035844-00035993 what we should get you know I think v6rr2ToVNLE-00188-00035994-00036170 that'd be the right move I think that is v6rr2ToVNLE-00189-00036171-00036318 what needs to happen you know Kofi v6rr2ToVNLE-00190-00036319-00036468 Kingston's had a great reign he's v6rr2ToVNLE-00191-00036469-00036639 looking very amazing in all of his v6rr2ToVNLE-00192-00036640-00036852 matches as champion I think we need a v6rr2ToVNLE-00193-00036853-00037017 good heal Randy Orton right here to pick v6rr2ToVNLE-00194-00037018-00037305 up the winner dethrone Kofi and give us v6rr2ToVNLE-00195-00037306-00037476 a good reign here and make up for that v6rr2ToVNLE-00196-00037477-00037761 terrible face run he had in 2017 so if v6rr2ToVNLE-00197-00037762-00037917 we go beyond that guys you will see in v6rr2ToVNLE-00198-00037918-00038154 the back right here you have the Miz and v6rr2ToVNLE-00199-00038155-00038430 he is he's given us one of his fiery v6rr2ToVNLE-00200-00038431-00038627 promos he beats schinsky Nakamura for v6rr2ToVNLE-00201-00038628-00038768 the Intercontinental Championship is v6rr2ToVNLE-00202-00038769-00038973 what this is this is signalling here and v6rr2ToVNLE-00203-00038974-00039046 he's you know v6rr2ToVNLE-00204-00039047-00039187 doing those passionate promos that he v6rr2ToVNLE-00205-00039188-00039421 used to cut on talking smack with Daniel v6rr2ToVNLE-00206-00039422-00039595 Bryan and Rene young you guys remember v6rr2ToVNLE-00207-00039596-00039739 that back in the day so that's what he's v6rr2ToVNLE-00208-00039740-00039856 doing a quarter-inch Corey graves v6rr2ToVNLE-00209-00039857-00040015 completely Shakti so what the hell is v6rr2ToVNLE-00210-00040016-00040201 this it eats like no bread I'm the best v6rr2ToVNLE-00211-00040202-00040489 and hopefully we get a heal Miz man we v6rr2ToVNLE-00212-00040490-00040717 need a heal Miz as I see champ that this v6rr2ToVNLE-00213-00040718-00040870 is what they want to do with it I'm not v6rr2ToVNLE-00214-00040871-00041065 sure what they're thinking but so we v6rr2ToVNLE-00215-00041066-00041164 haven't seen them really in a big v6rr2ToVNLE-00216-00041165-00041380 marquee matchup since WrestleMania so I v6rr2ToVNLE-00217-00041381-00041584 would like to see The Miz here win even v6rr2ToVNLE-00218-00041585-00041722 though you know it's kind of crazy that v6rr2ToVNLE-00219-00041723-00041884 I say that because usually I'm not a big v6rr2ToVNLE-00220-00041885-00042055 fan of The Miz but I don't know why I'm v6rr2ToVNLE-00221-00042056-00042202 just feeling the missus I see champ v6rr2ToVNLE-00222-00042203-00042394 right now but here he is cutting a nice v6rr2ToVNLE-00223-00042395-00042649 promo interview shoot with with Corey v6rr2ToVNLE-00224-00042650-00042820 graves if we go slightly to the left v6rr2ToVNLE-00225-00042821-00042859 guys v6rr2ToVNLE-00226-00042860-00043099 you will see we have all four horsewomen v6rr2ToVNLE-00227-00043100-00043303 right here breaking down in a fight I v6rr2ToVNLE-00228-00043304-00043456 know that Becky Lewis is taking on Sasha v6rr2ToVNLE-00229-00043457-00043600 banks for the raw Women's Championship v6rr2ToVNLE-00230-00043601-00043762 and Bailey is defending her Smackdown v6rr2ToVNLE-00231-00043763-00043912 life championship vs. Charlotte but I v6rr2ToVNLE-00232-00043913-00044038 have all four when you know they're kind v6rr2ToVNLE-00233-00044039-00044164 of intertwined coming into this v6rr2ToVNLE-00234-00044165-00044437 storyline and in this feud right now so v6rr2ToVNLE-00235-00044438-00044620 I have all of them just sort of just v6rr2ToVNLE-00236-00044621-00044740 beating the hell out of each other just v6rr2ToVNLE-00237-00044741-00044968 breaking down and maybe well this will v6rr2ToVNLE-00238-00044969-00045148 lead to a big match between all four for v6rr2ToVNLE-00239-00045149-00045307 both titles who knows what what they're v6rr2ToVNLE-00240-00045308-00045469 planning but that would be absolutely v6rr2ToVNLE-00241-00045470-00045682 epic maybe they're building for that for v6rr2ToVNLE-00242-00045683-00045904 next mania I'm not sure maybe Ronda v6rr2ToVNLE-00243-00045905-00046174 Rousey plan to return like in the din v6rr2ToVNLE-00244-00046175-00046327 the next few months I'm not sure what v6rr2ToVNLE-00245-00046328-00046495 they're thinking but here we have all v6rr2ToVNLE-00246-00046496-00046618 four women just who are just breaking v6rr2ToVNLE-00247-00046619-00046765 loose and just beating the hell out of v6rr2ToVNLE-00248-00046766-00046894 each other and I expect both of these v6rr2ToVNLE-00249-00046895-00047206 matches to be very very good and that is v6rr2ToVNLE-00250-00047207-00047320 it for this part of this stuff do you v6rr2ToVNLE-00251-00047321-00047470 see like the chairs are knocked over the v6rr2ToVNLE-00252-00047471-00047638 tables knocked over Championships thrown v6rr2ToVNLE-00253-00047639-00047721 all over the place v6rr2ToVNLE-00254-00047722-00047860 and these women are beating the hell out v6rr2ToVNLE-00255-00047861-00048010 of each other and for the moment you've v6rr2ToVNLE-00256-00048011-00048171 been waiting for ladies and gentlemen we v6rr2ToVNLE-00257-00048172-00048385 have the end of the setup right here v6rr2ToVNLE-00258-00048386-00048613 guys we have Seth freaking Rollins laid v6rr2ToVNLE-00259-00048614-00048988 out by the fiend Bray Wyatt the fiend v6rr2ToVNLE-00260-00048989-00049183 Bray Wyatt right there brand-new custom v6rr2ToVNLE-00261-00049184-00049414 that I finished just this morning and it v6rr2ToVNLE-00262-00049415-00049588 looks freaking fantastic I'm very v6rr2ToVNLE-00263-00049589-00049756 excited for it I love the way it turned v6rr2ToVNLE-00264-00049757-00049834 out v6rr2ToVNLE-00265-00049835-00050008 I did go with a different formula for v6rr2ToVNLE-00266-00050009-00050200 this guy but nonetheless let's get into v6rr2ToVNLE-00267-00050201-00050323 the setup and then I'll explain the v6rr2ToVNLE-00268-00050324-00050530 figure a little bit right here we have v6rr2ToVNLE-00269-00050531-00050704 set wrongs laid out you guys know that v6rr2ToVNLE-00270-00050705-00050944 he and braun strowman are the raw tech v6rr2ToVNLE-00271-00050945-00051124 team champions and not only that but v6rr2ToVNLE-00272-00051125-00051315 they are serving double duty at clash of v6rr2ToVNLE-00273-00051316-00051463 Champions they're also going to have a v6rr2ToVNLE-00274-00051464-00051619 championship match for the universal v6rr2ToVNLE-00275-00051620-00051798 championship v6rr2ToVNLE-00276-00051799-00051938 you know probably in the main event so v6rr2ToVNLE-00277-00051939-00052055 both of these guys will go head-to-head v6rr2ToVNLE-00278-00052057-00052229 and I hear the rumor mill that v6rr2ToVNLE-00279-00052230-00052413 apparently Bray Wyatt is supposed to get v6rr2ToVNLE-00280-00052414-00052512 involved and we're supposed to have a v6rr2ToVNLE-00281-00052513-00052710 triple threat Hell in a Cell match going v6rr2ToVNLE-00282-00052711-00052880 into Hell in a Cell between the three v6rr2ToVNLE-00283-00052882-00053022 men and that would be okay with me I v6rr2ToVNLE-00284-00053023-00053219 would love to see that but right here we v6rr2ToVNLE-00285-00053220-00053394 have the theme Bray Wyatt interfering v6rr2ToVNLE-00286-00053395-00053604 taking out Seth Rollins hoisting the v6rr2ToVNLE-00287-00053604-00053790 universal championship over his head and v6rr2ToVNLE-00288-00053791-00053994 this is just beautiful man that freaking v6rr2ToVNLE-00289-00053995-00054269 head cast by BEW I got my head cast I v6rr2ToVNLE-00290-00054270-00054479 painted it up and I didn't get one of v6rr2ToVNLE-00291-00054480-00054597 the ones that was painted I went ahead v6rr2ToVNLE-00292-00054598-00054767 and just paid for the one that was you v6rr2ToVNLE-00293-00054769-00054978 know non painted I got some decals we v6rr2ToVNLE-00294-00054979-00055166 threw the tattoos on there I went with v6rr2ToVNLE-00295-00055167-00055344 the Rhino tour so we got the entrance v6rr2ToVNLE-00296-00055345-00055521 jacket the custom hands from my boy v6rr2ToVNLE-00297-00055522-00055766 Rodney and we went with a Bray Wyatt v6rr2ToVNLE-00298-00055767-00055962 crotch we got some sting legs in there v6rr2ToVNLE-00299-00055963-00056085 just because I thought that that would v6rr2ToVNLE-00300-00056086-00056313 work well with the you know the little v6rr2ToVNLE-00301-00056314-00056526 impressions on the front of the legs v6rr2ToVNLE-00302-00056527-00056766 there and we went with sting boots as v6rr2ToVNLE-00303-00056766-00057075 well so I just put a thin layer of red v6rr2ToVNLE-00304-00057076-00057263 over the legs and I think it will turned v6rr2ToVNLE-00305-00057264-00057419 out pretty well but I'm super stoked v6rr2ToVNLE-00306-00057420-00057579 with the way the feint turned out I am v6rr2ToVNLE-00307-00057579-00057741 happy with it even though I'm gonna have v6rr2ToVNLE-00308-00057741-00057917 to redo some stuff because the waist and v6rr2ToVNLE-00309-00057919-00058130 the torso didn't fit quite right the v6rr2ToVNLE-00310-00058132-00058347 arms are kind of jagged II and I'm gonna v6rr2ToVNLE-00311-00058348-00058469 have to I'm gonna have to fix it up a v6rr2ToVNLE-00312-00058470-00058619 little bit but nonetheless this is kind v6rr2ToVNLE-00313-00058620-00058757 of my base that I'm going with right now v6rr2ToVNLE-00314-00058758-00058982 and nonetheless it looks great for v6rr2ToVNLE-00315-00058983-00059129 pictures and just you know predictions v6rr2ToVNLE-00316-00059130-00059271 videos and things of that nature but I v6rr2ToVNLE-00317-00059272-00059436 doubt I'll be able to put it in the pic v6rr2ToVNLE-00318-00059437-00059628 fed or anything like that but anyways v6rr2ToVNLE-00319-00059629-00059835 guys that is it for the setup guys that v6rr2ToVNLE-00320-00059836-00060026 is it for our class of Champions 2019 v6rr2ToVNLE-00321-00060027-00060222 action figure setup I hope you guys did v6rr2ToVNLE-00322-00060223-00060534 enjoy I'm so excited to finally reveal v6rr2ToVNLE-00323-00060535-00060707 that same custom that we finally did I v6rr2ToVNLE-00324-00060708-00060885 literally did that in the span of like v6rr2ToVNLE-00325-00060886-00061116 maybe a couple hours I just kind of got v6rr2ToVNLE-00326-00061116-00061260 all the parts together and we whipped it v6rr2ToVNLE-00327-00061261-00061442 up real quick and here it is today in v6rr2ToVNLE-00328-00061444-00061638 the setup video guys what that is gonna v6rr2ToVNLE-00329-00061639-00061836 do it for my setup video pour it leave v6rr2ToVNLE-00330-00061837-00061950 your predictions down in the comment v6rr2ToVNLE-00331-00061951-00062049 section below guys I would really v6rr2ToVNLE-00332-00062050-00062247 appreciate it subscribe to the channel v6rr2ToVNLE-00333-00062248-00062421 for more epic so w/e for your videos v6rr2ToVNLE-00334-00062422-00062567 follow me on instagram and twitter it v6rr2ToVNLE-00335-00062569-00062786 might have toys and I will see you guys v6rr2ToVNLE-00336-00062787-00063101 almost throw up again in the next video v6rr2ToVNLE-00337-00063102-00063399 thank you Randall Keith Orton baby v6rr2ToVNLE-00338-00063400-00063669 Randall Keith Orton gonna take out gonna v6rr2ToVNLE-00339-00063670-00063869 take out Kofi and when that dug w/e v6rr2ToVNLE-00340-00063870-00064303 championship v6rr2ToVNLE-00341-00064304-00064915 [Music] v7DbHH18Q1c-00000-00000042-00000394 man I can't believe I got grounded for v7DbHH18Q1c-00001-00000395-00000749 this reason what should I do v7DbHH18Q1c-00002-00000750-00001031 I know I am going to cook classic gamer v7DbHH18Q1c-00003-00001032-00001270 production animator while I am going to v7DbHH18Q1c-00004-00001271-00002047 bring my oven in the kitchen v7DbHH18Q1c-00005-00002048-00002752 now let's get to this v7DbHH18Q1c-00006-00002753-00003029 oh my god Little Bill what are v7DbHH18Q1c-00007-00003030-00003274 you doing here at my house and also why v7DbHH18Q1c-00008-00003275-00003479 do you have oven here well uh the oven v7DbHH18Q1c-00009-00003479-00003743 yes are you sure you going to cook me v7DbHH18Q1c-00010-00003744-00004034 for reason in that freaking oven yes v7DbHH18Q1c-00011-00004035-00004403 [Applause] v7DbHH18Q1c-00012-00004404-00004667 oh no it's getting hotter and hotter v7DbHH18Q1c-00013-00004668-00005999 enough oh no fire v7DbHH18Q1c-00014-00006000-00006197 oh my God classic gamer production v7DbHH18Q1c-00015-00006198-00006454 animators are you okay and also what v7DbHH18Q1c-00016-00006455-00006628 happened to your body Little Bill v7DbHH18Q1c-00017-00006629-00006833 actually hooked me with his oven and v7DbHH18Q1c-00018-00006834-00007013 also my bar to use come out with blood v7DbHH18Q1c-00019-00007014-00007259 for a reason why I'm burned oh dear well v7DbHH18Q1c-00020-00007259-00007427 I can bring you to the hospital for you v7DbHH18Q1c-00021-00007428-00007667 all I can call 9-1-1 later I'm going to v7DbHH18Q1c-00022-00007668-00007889 do this to Little Bill Little Bill did v7DbHH18Q1c-00023-00007890-00008074 you cook my friend with your oven and v7DbHH18Q1c-00024-00008075-00008242 also he isn't injured right now to get v7DbHH18Q1c-00025-00008243-00008428 surgery to the hospital tell me the v7DbHH18Q1c-00026-00008429-00008821 truth right now um v7DbHH18Q1c-00027-00008822-00009107 yes I cook and burn classic game of v7DbHH18Q1c-00028-00009108-00009299 production animators while he make v7DbHH18Q1c-00029-00009300-00009507 grounded videos out of me v7DbHH18Q1c-00030-00009508-00009817 [Laughter] v7DbHH18Q1c-00031-00009818-00010121 Little Bill how dare you cook and burned v7DbHH18Q1c-00032-00010122-00010331 my friend with your over that's very v7DbHH18Q1c-00033-00010332-00010528 very bad I've ever seen at you kid v7DbHH18Q1c-00034-00010529-00010792 that's it I am going to call your dad v7DbHH18Q1c-00035-00010793-00012687 about this v7DbHH18Q1c-00036-00012688-00012960 [Music] v7DbHH18Q1c-00037-00012961-00013216 grounded grounded grounded grounded for v7DbHH18Q1c-00038-00013218-00013577 four two three zero five seven eight two v7DbHH18Q1c-00039-00013578-00013919 nine five seven nine two seven three v7DbHH18Q1c-00040-00013919-00014297 five nine two seven three five two three v7DbHH18Q1c-00041-00014297-00014585 centuries go to your room right now v7DbHH18Q1c-00042-00014586-00014886 ah v7b_6xKd64g-00000-00000000-00000337 a Michigan judge has ordered Detroit to v7b_6xKd64g-00001-00000338-00000566 withdraw the city's bankruptcy petition v7b_6xKd64g-00002-00000567-00000770 because it could cut the pensions of v7b_6xKd64g-00003-00000771-00000991 retired public employees thereby v7b_6xKd64g-00004-00000992-00001207 violating the state's constitution v7b_6xKd64g-00005-00001208-00001445 Michigan's Attorney General quickly v7b_6xKd64g-00006-00001446-00001643 appealed the ruling after it came down v7b_6xKd64g-00007-00001644-00001907 Friday Detroit last week became the v7b_6xKd64g-00008-00001907-00002141 largest city in the United States to v7b_6xKd64g-00009-00002142-00002345 file for bankruptcy with unpayable v7b_6xKd64g-00010-00002346-00002635 deaths estimated at 18 billion dollars v7b_6xKd64g-00011-00002636-00002855 about half of those deaths are in v7b_6xKd64g-00012-00002856-00003083 unfunded pensions and benefits to v7b_6xKd64g-00013-00003084-00003336 thousands of public workers and retirees v7b_6xKd64g-00014-00003338-00003629 speaking on Fox News Sunday the Detroit v7b_6xKd64g-00015-00003629-00003908 emergency manager Kevyn Orr said pension v7b_6xKd64g-00016-00003909-00004181 cuts are inevitable we're going to have v7b_6xKd64g-00017-00004182-00004349 a dialogue with the pension funds about v7b_6xKd64g-00018-00004350-00004588 what we can do and there are two v7b_6xKd64g-00019-00004589-00004813 different funds police and fire and v7b_6xKd64g-00020-00004814-00004934 general services and they may have v7b_6xKd64g-00021-00004935-00005122 different levels of funding and all v7b_6xKd64g-00022-00005123-00005236 we're talking about in this v7b_6xKd64g-00023-00005237-00005486 restructuring is the unfunded component v7b_6xKd64g-00024-00005487-00005654 of those pension funds I want to be v7b_6xKd64g-00025-00005655-00005872 clear the pensioners a dollar if v7b_6xKd64g-00026-00005873-00006052 significant sum of money make no mistake v7b_6xKd64g-00027-00006053-00006191 about and there are going to be happy to v7b_6xKd64g-00028-00006192-00006322 be concessions concessions may be v7b_6xKd64g-00029-00006323-00006520 different for each fun and they're going v7b_6xKd64g-00030-00006522-00006673 to be focused on the unfunded portion v7b_6xKd64g-00031-00006675-00006830 but they will have some component that v7b_6xKd64g-00032-00006831-00007067 you are saying that pensioners who work v7b_6xKd64g-00033-00007068-00007337 for the city for decades re not going to v7b_6xKd64g-00034-00007338-00007459 get the benefits they thought they were v7b_6xKd64g-00035-00007461-00007606 going to get there are going to be some v7b_6xKd64g-00036-00007608-00007753 adjustments they're probably going to v7b_6xKd64g-00037-00007754-00007988 need to be some adjusted bankruptcy v7b_6xKd64g-00038-00007989-00008185 proceedings could begin as early as this v7b_6xKd64g-00039-00008186-00008392 week if approved in court Detroit's v7b_6xKd64g-00040-00008393-00008612 bankruptcy would force creditors to v7b_6xKd64g-00041-00008613-00008834 enter into negotiations on resolving its v7b_6xKd64g-00042-00008835-00009056 death Michigan's Republican Governor v7b_6xKd64g-00043-00009057-00009289 Rick Snyder has downplayed the prospect v7b_6xKd64g-00044-00009290-00009481 of a bailout from Washington saying he v7b_6xKd64g-00045-00009482-00009703 will not seek the federal government's v7b_6xKd64g-00046-00009704-00010167 help v7b_6xKd64g-00047-00010168-00010374 you v8rJKijNPPA-00000-00000046-00000363 the 1876 Republican National Convention v8rJKijNPPA-00001-00000364-00000626 was a presidential nominating convention v8rJKijNPPA-00002-00000627-00000792 held at the exposition hall in v8rJKijNPPA-00003-00000793-00001247 Cincinnati Ohio on June 14 to 16 1876 v8rJKijNPPA-00004-00001248-00001518 president ulysses s grant considered v8rJKijNPPA-00005-00001519-00001713 seeking a third term but with various v8rJKijNPPA-00006-00001714-00001955 scandals a weak economy and Democratic v8rJKijNPPA-00007-00001957-00002081 gains in the House of Representatives v8rJKijNPPA-00008-00002082-00002327 leading many Republicans to repudiate v8rJKijNPPA-00009-00002328-00002598 him he did not run the convention v8rJKijNPPA-00010-00002599-00002796 resulted in the nomination of governor v8rJKijNPPA-00011-00002797-00003033 Rutherford B Hayes of Ohio for president v8rJKijNPPA-00012-00003034-00003236 and representative William a wheeler of v8rJKijNPPA-00013-00003237-00003883 New York for Vice President v8rJKijNPPA-00014-00003884-00004393 topic overview v8rJKijNPPA-00015-00004394-00004609 the convention was called to order by v8rJKijNPPA-00016-00004610-00004807 Republican National Committee chairman v8rJKijNPPA-00017-00004808-00005134 Edwin D Morgan Theodore M Pomeroy served v8rJKijNPPA-00018-00005135-00005326 as the conventions temporary chairman v8rJKijNPPA-00019-00005327-00005485 and Edward Macpherson served as v8rJKijNPPA-00020-00005486-00005758 permanent president the principle v8rJKijNPPA-00021-00005759-00005953 candidates at the convention included v8rJKijNPPA-00022-00005954-00006181 Senator James G Blaine of Maine the v8rJKijNPPA-00023-00006182-00006382 former Speaker of the House Senator v8rJKijNPPA-00024-00006383-00006645 Oliver P Morton of Indiana Secretary of v8rJKijNPPA-00025-00006647-00006846 the Treasury Benjamin H Bristow of v8rJKijNPPA-00026-00006847-00007093 Kentucky Senator Roscoe Conkling of New v8rJKijNPPA-00027-00007094-00007327 York governor Rutherford Behe's of Ohio v8rJKijNPPA-00028-00007328-00007534 and Governor John F Hartranft to v8rJKijNPPA-00029-00007534-00007785 Pennsylvania James Russell Lowell v8rJKijNPPA-00030-00007786-00007981 well-known poet and a professor at v8rJKijNPPA-00031-00007981-00008205 Harvard College spoke on behalf of Hayes v8rJKijNPPA-00032-00008206-00008491 three candidates including secretary v8rJKijNPPA-00033-00008492-00008688 Benjamin Bristow Postmaster General v8rJKijNPPA-00034-00008689-00008890 marshal jewel of Connecticut and v8rJKijNPPA-00035-00008891-00009142 Secretary of State Elihu Washburne of v8rJKijNPPA-00036-00009143-00009363 Illinois were former cabinet members of v8rJKijNPPA-00037-00009364-00009685 President ulysses s grant blaine led v8rJKijNPPA-00038-00009686-00009973 after the first ballot but had only 285 v8rJKijNPPA-00039-00009974-00010279 of the 378 Delegates required to secure v8rJKijNPPA-00040-00010280-00010537 the nomination morton Bristow and v8rJKijNPPA-00041-00010538-00010788 Conkling each had around 100 delegates v8rJKijNPPA-00042-00010789-00010915 while Hazen hartranft v8rJKijNPPA-00043-00010916-00011215 each had around 60 the second third and v8rJKijNPPA-00044-00011216-00011443 fourth ballots saw similar results but v8rJKijNPPA-00045-00011444-00011613 Hayes began to surge on the fifth ballot v8rJKijNPPA-00046-00011614-00011827 passing Morton and Conkling to secure v8rJKijNPPA-00047-00011828-00012102 third place after Blaine and Bristow the v8rJKijNPPA-00048-00012103-00012382 sixth ballot saw Blaine rise to 308 v8rJKijNPPA-00049-00012383-00012546 but with the other candidates fading v8rJKijNPPA-00050-00012547-00012741 Hayes continued his search moving into v8rJKijNPPA-00051-00012742-00013038 second place after the sixth ballot the v8rJKijNPPA-00052-00013039-00013269 bristow Conkling Morton and Hart rant v8rJKijNPPA-00053-00013270-00013441 supporters withdrew their candidates v8rJKijNPPA-00054-00013441-00013582 names from consideration v8rJKijNPPA-00055-00013583-00013758 leaving Hayes as the sole focus of v8rJKijNPPA-00056-00013759-00013983 opposition to blame with the other v8rJKijNPPA-00057-00013984-00014166 candidates Gunn Hayes won a narrow v8rJKijNPPA-00058-00014168-00014358 majority on the seventh ballot and v8rJKijNPPA-00059-00014359-00014644 secured the nomination the convention v8rJKijNPPA-00060-00014644-00014776 then went on to choose a vice v8rJKijNPPA-00061-00014777-00015037 presidential nominee congressman William v8rJKijNPPA-00062-00015038-00015271 a wheeler of New York won a majority on v8rJKijNPPA-00063-00015272-00015493 the first ballot defeating marshal Jule v8rJKijNPPA-00064-00015494-00015766 Stewart L Woodford of New York Joseph R v8rJKijNPPA-00065-00015766-00015955 Holley of Connecticut and Frederick T v8rJKijNPPA-00066-00015956-00016222 Frelinghuysen of New Jersey the v8rJKijNPPA-00067-00016222-00016419 Republican ticket of Hayes and wheeler v8rJKijNPPA-00068-00016420-00016605 went on to lose the popular vote to v8rJKijNPPA-00069-00016606-00016855 Democrat Samuel J Tilden and Thomas a v8rJKijNPPA-00070-00016856-00017136 Hendricks in the election of 1876 but v8rJKijNPPA-00071-00017137-00017284 won the electoral vote after a v8rJKijNPPA-00072-00017285-00017470 controversy which was resolved by the v8rJKijNPPA-00073-00017471-00017827 compromise of 1877 v8rJKijNPPA-00074-00017828-00018176 you v8rJKijNPPA-00075-00018177-00018703 topic see also v8rJKijNPPA-00076-00018704-00018967 history of the United States Republican v8rJKijNPPA-00077-00018968-00019252 Party list of Republican national v8rJKijNPPA-00078-00019253-00019689 conventions u.s. presidential nomination v8rJKijNPPA-00079-00019690-00020014 convention United States presidential v8rJKijNPPA-00080-00020015-00020533 election 1876 1876 Democratic National v8rJKijNPPA-00081-00020534-00020751 Convention v8GlkG13O8u-00000-00000016-00000238 family farms is officially open for v8GlkG13O8u-00001-00000239-00000487 business v9k7xnbxEq0-00000-00000059-00000281 this audio production was made in v9k7xnbxEq0-00001-00000282-00001019 collaboration with audible anarchist v9k7xnbxEq0-00002-00001019-00001343 the Bolshevik myth by Alexander Berkman v9k7xnbxEq0-00003-00001344-00001511 chapter 27 v9k7xnbxEq0-00004-00001512-00001780 further south v9k7xnbxEq0-00005-00001782-00002026 August 7 1920. v9k7xnbxEq0-00006-00002027-00002231 slowly our train creeps through the v9k7xnbxEq0-00007-00002232-00002507 country evidence of Devastation on every v9k7xnbxEq0-00008-00002508-00002765 hand reminding us of the long years of v9k7xnbxEq0-00009-00002766-00003113 war Revolution and civil strife v9k7xnbxEq0-00010-00003114-00003331 the towns and cities on our route look v9k7xnbxEq0-00011-00003332-00003611 poverty-stricken the stores are closed v9k7xnbxEq0-00012-00003611-00003790 the streets deserted v9k7xnbxEq0-00013-00003792-00004036 by degrees Soviet conditions are being v9k7xnbxEq0-00014-00004037-00004343 established the process progressing more v9k7xnbxEq0-00015-00004344-00004625 rapidly in some places than in others v9k7xnbxEq0-00016-00004626-00004883 in poltava we find neither Soviet nor v9k7xnbxEq0-00017-00004884-00005152 ipsum the usual form of Bolshevik v9k7xnbxEq0-00018-00005153-00005393 government instead the city is ruled by v9k7xnbxEq0-00019-00005394-00005615 the more primitive revcom the v9k7xnbxEq0-00020-00005616-00005795 self-appointed Revolutionary committee v9k7xnbxEq0-00021-00005796-00006059 active underground during white regimes v9k7xnbxEq0-00022-00006060-00006263 and taking charge whenever the Red Army v9k7xnbxEq0-00023-00006264-00006637 occupies a district v9k7xnbxEq0-00024-00006638-00006910 present The Familiar picture of the v9k7xnbxEq0-00025-00006911-00007048 small southern town v9k7xnbxEq0-00026-00007050-00007313 with a little Marketplace still suffered v9k7xnbxEq0-00027-00007314-00007534 by the bolsheviki the center of its v9k7xnbxEq0-00028-00007536-00007714 commercial and social life v9k7xnbxEq0-00029-00007715-00007960 in uneven rows The Peasant women sprawl v9k7xnbxEq0-00030-00007961-00008159 and sacks of potatoes or squat on their v9k7xnbxEq0-00031-00008159-00008417 haunches exchanging flower rice and v9k7xnbxEq0-00032-00008418-00008741 beans for tobacco soap and salt v9k7xnbxEq0-00033-00008742-00008963 Soviet money is scorned hardly anyone v9k7xnbxEq0-00034-00008964-00009214 accepting it though sarkiya are in v9k7xnbxEq0-00035-00009215-00009424 demand and occasionally karenki are v9k7xnbxEq0-00036-00009425-00009706 favored the entire older population of v9k7xnbxEq0-00037-00009707-00009887 the city seems to be in the market v9k7xnbxEq0-00038-00009888-00010363 everyone bargaining selling or buying v9k7xnbxEq0-00039-00010364-00010619 gunsling across the shoulders circulate v9k7xnbxEq0-00040-00010620-00010841 among the people and here and there a v9k7xnbxEq0-00041-00010842-00011027 man in leather coat and a cap is v9k7xnbxEq0-00042-00011028-00011309 conspicuous in the crowd a communist or v9k7xnbxEq0-00043-00011310-00011428 a checklist v9k7xnbxEq0-00044-00011429-00011627 these people seem to shun them and v9k7xnbxEq0-00045-00011628-00011771 conversation is subdued in their v9k7xnbxEq0-00046-00011772-00011878 presence v9k7xnbxEq0-00047-00011879-00012077 political questions are avoided but v9k7xnbxEq0-00048-00012078-00012269 lamentation over the terrible situation v9k7xnbxEq0-00049-00012270-00012413 is universal v9k7xnbxEq0-00050-00012414-00012569 everyone complaining about the v9k7xnbxEq0-00051-00012570-00012755 insufficiency of the pioch the v9k7xnbxEq0-00052-00012756-00012965 irregularity of its issue and the v9k7xnbxEq0-00053-00012966-00013133 general condition of starvation and v9k7xnbxEq0-00054-00013134-00013265 misery v9k7xnbxEq0-00055-00013266-00013499 more frequently we meet men and women of v9k7xnbxEq0-00056-00013500-00013744 the Jewish type the look of the hunted v9k7xnbxEq0-00057-00013745-00013949 in their eyes and more Dreadful become v9k7xnbxEq0-00058-00013950-00014153 the stories of pogroms that had taken v9k7xnbxEq0-00059-00014154-00014357 place in the neighborhood v9k7xnbxEq0-00060-00014358-00014579 few young persons are visible v9k7xnbxEq0-00061-00014580-00014753 these are in the Soviet institutions v9k7xnbxEq0-00062-00014754-00014933 working as the employees of the v9k7xnbxEq0-00063-00014934-00015065 government v9k7xnbxEq0-00064-00015066-00015244 the young women we meet occasionally v9k7xnbxEq0-00065-00015245-00015430 have a startled frightened look and many v9k7xnbxEq0-00066-00015431-00015683 men bear ugly scars on their faces as is v9k7xnbxEq0-00067-00015684-00016072 from a saber or swordcut in snamenka v9k7xnbxEq0-00068-00016073-00016277 Henry alsberg the American correspondent v9k7xnbxEq0-00069-00016278-00016522 accompanying our Expedition discovers v9k7xnbxEq0-00070-00016523-00016708 the loss of his purse containing a v9k7xnbxEq0-00071-00016709-00016985 considerable amount of foreign money v9k7xnbxEq0-00072-00016986-00017200 inquiries of the peasant women in The v9k7xnbxEq0-00073-00017201-00017453 Market Place illicit only a shrewdly v9k7xnbxEq0-00074-00017454-00017717 naive smile with a resentful exclamation v9k7xnbxEq0-00075-00017718-00017986 How do I know visiting the local police v9k7xnbxEq0-00076-00017987-00018221 station in the faint hope of advisor Aid v9k7xnbxEq0-00077-00018222-00018407 we learned that the whole Force has just v9k7xnbxEq0-00078-00018408-00018622 been rushed off to the environs reported v9k7xnbxEq0-00079-00018623-00019008 to be attacked by a company of machnodzi v9k7xnbxEq0-00080-00019009-00019247 despairing of recovering our loss we v9k7xnbxEq0-00081-00019248-00019475 return to the railroad station for v9k7xnbxEq0-00082-00019476-00019649 astonishment the museum car is nowhere v9k7xnbxEq0-00083-00019650-00019936 to be seen in consternation we we v9k7xnbxEq0-00084-00019937-00020117 learned that it was coupled to a train v9k7xnbxEq0-00085-00020118-00020363 that started for Kiev via fostov an hour v9k7xnbxEq0-00086-00020364-00020494 ago v9k7xnbxEq0-00087-00020495-00020657 we realize the seriousness of our v9k7xnbxEq0-00088-00020658-00020830 predicament and being stranded in a city v9k7xnbxEq0-00089-00020831-00021041 without hotels or restaurants and with v9k7xnbxEq0-00090-00021042-00021317 no food to be purchased for Soviet money v9k7xnbxEq0-00091-00021318-00021563 the only can in our procession v9k7xnbxEq0-00092-00021564-00021761 while discussing the situation we v9k7xnbxEq0-00093-00021762-00021953 observe a military supply train in slow v9k7xnbxEq0-00094-00021954-00022211 motion on a distant sighting we Dash v9k7xnbxEq0-00095-00022212-00022403 forward and succeed in boarding it at a v9k7xnbxEq0-00096-00022404-00022577 cost of a few scratches v9k7xnbxEq0-00097-00022578-00022750 the commissary in charge of the first v9k7xnbxEq0-00098-00022751-00023008 strenuously objects to our presence and v9k7xnbxEq0-00099-00023009-00023261 no pains to hide the suspicions aroused v9k7xnbxEq0-00100-00023262-00023483 by our sudden appearance it requires v9k7xnbxEq0-00101-00023484-00023621 considerable argument and much v9k7xnbxEq0-00102-00023622-00023789 demonstration of official documents v9k7xnbxEq0-00103-00023790-00024041 before the bureaucrat is mollified v9k7xnbxEq0-00104-00024042-00024317 over a cup of tea he begins to thaw out v9k7xnbxEq0-00105-00024318-00024544 the Primitive Hospitality of the Russian v9k7xnbxEq0-00106-00024545-00024803 helping to establish friendly relations v9k7xnbxEq0-00107-00024804-00024977 before long we are deep in the v9k7xnbxEq0-00108-00024978-00025121 discussion of the Revolution and current v9k7xnbxEq0-00109-00025122-00025403 problems our host is a communist from v9k7xnbxEq0-00110-00025404-00025649 the masses as he terms it is a great v9k7xnbxEq0-00111-00025650-00025846 admirer of Trotsky in his iron broom v9k7xnbxEq0-00112-00025847-00026111 methods Revolution can conquer only by v9k7xnbxEq0-00113-00026112-00026285 the generous use of the sword he v9k7xnbxEq0-00114-00026286-00026518 believes morality and sentiment are v9k7xnbxEq0-00115-00026519-00026746 Bourgeois superstitions his conception v9k7xnbxEq0-00116-00026747-00026939 of socialism is pure Isle his v9k7xnbxEq0-00117-00026939-00027131 information about The World At Large of v9k7xnbxEq0-00118-00027132-00027401 the scantius his arguments echoed The v9k7xnbxEq0-00119-00027402-00027568 Familiar editorials of the official 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vqhGRmVWZAQ-00014-00004336-00004583 communities organize themselves in all vqhGRmVWZAQ-00015-00004584-00004686 sorts of ways vqhGRmVWZAQ-00016-00004687-00004902 to promote children's well-being and vqhGRmVWZAQ-00017-00004903-00005086 protect them from violence vqhGRmVWZAQ-00018-00005087-00005599 abuse neglect and exploitation vqhGRmVWZAQ-00019-00005600-00005927 as child protection actors it's our job vqhGRmVWZAQ-00020-00005928-00006134 to work alongside community members vqhGRmVWZAQ-00021-00006135-00006391 in their response to children's needs vqhGRmVWZAQ-00022-00006392-00006583 take nina for example vqhGRmVWZAQ-00023-00006584-00006751 she's a 14 year old girl who was vqhGRmVWZAQ-00024-00006752-00006927 recently displaced by conflict vqhGRmVWZAQ-00025-00006928-00007231 in her country and now lives in a camp vqhGRmVWZAQ-00026-00007231-00007455 nina loves football but she hasn't vqhGRmVWZAQ-00027-00007456-00007774 played since she left home vqhGRmVWZAQ-00028-00007775-00007998 one day nina sees some children playing vqhGRmVWZAQ-00029-00008000-00008174 football in a vacant lot vqhGRmVWZAQ-00030-00008175-00008527 and she has an idea she gathers a group vqhGRmVWZAQ-00031-00008528-00008703 of friends and supportive adults vqhGRmVWZAQ-00032-00008704-00008903 together to clean up the lot vqhGRmVWZAQ-00033-00008904-00009095 and organize practices for local vqhGRmVWZAQ-00034-00009096-00009335 children vqhGRmVWZAQ-00035-00009336-00009606 soon nina her friends and several vqhGRmVWZAQ-00036-00009607-00009727 community members vqhGRmVWZAQ-00037-00009728-00010014 are coaching two teams they don't have vqhGRmVWZAQ-00038-00010015-00010078 much vqhGRmVWZAQ-00039-00010079-00010303 but nina looks well to this every day vqhGRmVWZAQ-00040-00010304-00010614 and the children love it too vqhGRmVWZAQ-00041-00010615-00010814 as child protection actors arrive at the vqhGRmVWZAQ-00042-00010815-00011014 camp they move quickly to address vqhGRmVWZAQ-00043-00011015-00011246 mental health concerns setting up safe vqhGRmVWZAQ-00044-00011247-00011399 spaces in that same vacant vqhGRmVWZAQ-00045-00011400-00011638 lot and employing facilitators from vqhGRmVWZAQ-00046-00011639-00012014 outside the community vqhGRmVWZAQ-00047-00012015-00012223 nina and her friends are confused and vqhGRmVWZAQ-00048-00012224-00012446 disappointed about losing their space vqhGRmVWZAQ-00049-00012447-00012799 but they don't know who to turn to vqhGRmVWZAQ-00050-00012800-00013030 how could child protection actors use a vqhGRmVWZAQ-00051-00013031-00013455 stronger community level approach vqhGRmVWZAQ-00052-00013456-00013703 in 2019 the alliance for child vqhGRmVWZAQ-00053-00013704-00013911 protection and humanitarian action vqhGRmVWZAQ-00054-00013912-00014111 published a new edition of the minimum vqhGRmVWZAQ-00055-00014112-00014447 standards for child protection vqhGRmVWZAQ-00056-00014447-00014766 standard 17 community level approaches vqhGRmVWZAQ-00057-00014768-00015038 outlines key actions and guidance notes vqhGRmVWZAQ-00058-00015040-00015230 to ensure children live in communities vqhGRmVWZAQ-00059-00015231-00015311 that promote vqhGRmVWZAQ-00060-00015312-00015599 their well-being and prevent and respond vqhGRmVWZAQ-00061-00015600-00015694 to violence vqhGRmVWZAQ-00062-00015695-00015975 abuse neglect and exploitation against vqhGRmVWZAQ-00063-00015976-00016175 children vqhGRmVWZAQ-00064-00016176-00016391 while there is no one-size-fits-all vqhGRmVWZAQ-00065-00016392-00016583 model standard 17 vqhGRmVWZAQ-00066-00016584-00016815 outlines key actions and guidance to vqhGRmVWZAQ-00067-00016816-00017047 working alongside communities vqhGRmVWZAQ-00068-00017048-00017230 these actions include carrying out a vqhGRmVWZAQ-00069-00017231-00017439 context analysis to understand the vqhGRmVWZAQ-00070-00017440-00017519 social norms vqhGRmVWZAQ-00071-00017520-00017727 and attitudes towards children in the vqhGRmVWZAQ-00072-00017728-00017822 community vqhGRmVWZAQ-00073-00017823-00018030 and to identify potential sources of vqhGRmVWZAQ-00074-00018031-00018247 risk that may not support the best vqhGRmVWZAQ-00075-00018248-00018439 interests of children vqhGRmVWZAQ-00076-00018440-00018671 standard 17 says we need to build vqhGRmVWZAQ-00077-00018672-00018894 relationships with community members vqhGRmVWZAQ-00078-00018895-00019150 caregivers and children like nina who vqhGRmVWZAQ-00079-00019151-00019327 are promoting children's rights vqhGRmVWZAQ-00080-00019328-00019622 healthy development and well-being this vqhGRmVWZAQ-00081-00019623-00019814 will help us to jointly identify vqhGRmVWZAQ-00082-00019815-00020014 those who play important roles in vqhGRmVWZAQ-00083-00020015-00020191 children's protection vqhGRmVWZAQ-00084-00020192-00020391 prioritize and address child protection vqhGRmVWZAQ-00085-00020392-00020639 issues define responsibilities in vqhGRmVWZAQ-00086-00020640-00020814 community level action vqhGRmVWZAQ-00087-00020815-00021063 and better support children and families vqhGRmVWZAQ-00088-00021064-00021311 at risk vqhGRmVWZAQ-00089-00021312-00021567 now let's return to the child protection vqhGRmVWZAQ-00090-00021568-00021799 actors in nina's camp vqhGRmVWZAQ-00091-00021800-00021967 imagine they used child-friendly vqhGRmVWZAQ-00092-00021968-00022175 communication skills to listen to what vqhGRmVWZAQ-00093-00022176-00022239 nina vqhGRmVWZAQ-00094-00022240-00022422 her friends and community members have vqhGRmVWZAQ-00095-00022423-00022558 started vqhGRmVWZAQ-00096-00022559-00022775 by acknowledging the amazing work nina vqhGRmVWZAQ-00097-00022776-00022878 has done and vqhGRmVWZAQ-00098-00022879-00023047 asking her what they can do to better vqhGRmVWZAQ-00099-00023048-00023383 support children in her community vqhGRmVWZAQ-00100-00023384-00023639 nina feels a sense of satisfaction and vqhGRmVWZAQ-00101-00023640-00023750 belonging vqhGRmVWZAQ-00102-00023751-00023958 through a trusting relationship the vqhGRmVWZAQ-00103-00023959-00024158 child protection actors helped nina and vqhGRmVWZAQ-00104-00024159-00024255 her community vqhGRmVWZAQ-00105-00024256-00024630 to grow her project the minimum actions vqhGRmVWZAQ-00106-00024631-00024767 in standard 17 vqhGRmVWZAQ-00107-00024768-00024950 encourage collaboration with community vqhGRmVWZAQ-00108-00024951-00025094 members and children vqhGRmVWZAQ-00109-00025095-00025286 this helps us to identify protection vqhGRmVWZAQ-00110-00025287-00025455 strategies that work vqhGRmVWZAQ-00111-00025456-00025711 find areas to improve get feedback vqhGRmVWZAQ-00112-00025712-00025934 during and after the response vqhGRmVWZAQ-00113-00025935-00026383 and adjust activities where we need to vqhGRmVWZAQ-00114-00026383-00026567 this gives us a better chance at vqhGRmVWZAQ-00115-00026568-00026758 supporting community-owned solutions vqhGRmVWZAQ-00116-00026760-00029305 that truly protect children vqhGRmVWZAQ-00117-00029306-00029790 [Music] vqhGRmVWZAQ-00118-00029791-00030000 you 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v_ezlOwHaOI-00024-00004536-00006534 good luck v_ezlOwHaOI-00025-00006536-00006727 i'll play v_ezlOwHaOI-00026-00006728-00006887 ball lightning v_ezlOwHaOI-00027-00006888-00007070 yeah that's for three v_ezlOwHaOI-00028-00007072-00007295 one if it hits one deal is that much v_ezlOwHaOI-00029-00007295-00007398 plus one v_ezlOwHaOI-00030-00007400-00007583 yep uh block three v_ezlOwHaOI-00031-00007584-00009846 yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00032-00009847-00010103 yep um v_ezlOwHaOI-00033-00010104-00010327 response to the exude we will v_ezlOwHaOI-00034-00010328-00010599 pitch five and play muscle retribution v_ezlOwHaOI-00035-00010600-00010855 and then no blockers v_ezlOwHaOI-00036-00010856-00012255 yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00037-00012256-00013415 this thing v_ezlOwHaOI-00038-00013416-00013807 because i might actually crack snappies v_ezlOwHaOI-00039-00013808-00014975 because i don't like that merciful rip v_ezlOwHaOI-00040-00014976-00015175 yeah i'll crack the snappies v_ezlOwHaOI-00041-00015176-00015438 in response and then pitch flash freeze v_ezlOwHaOI-00042-00015440-00015655 and then rosetta at the most full rep v_ezlOwHaOI-00043-00015656-00015855 taking one it's one arcane and it goes v_ezlOwHaOI-00044-00015856-00016103 to sell and i'm taking four for my v_ezlOwHaOI-00045-00016104-00016294 exhaust exit confidence here v_ezlOwHaOI-00046-00016295-00016511 yeah four yeah cool v_ezlOwHaOI-00047-00016512-00016719 and i'll ask this guy to pass v_ezlOwHaOI-00048-00016720-00016923 yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00049-00016924-00017271 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00050-00017272-00017430 oh why'd i have to draw this now all v_ezlOwHaOI-00051-00017431-00017655 right um v_ezlOwHaOI-00052-00017656-00017807 cool v_ezlOwHaOI-00053-00017808-00018014 uh we'll pitch two and play a herald of v_ezlOwHaOI-00054-00018015-00018279 triumph for six uh reduces the effective v_ezlOwHaOI-00055-00018280-00018399 power bubble v_ezlOwHaOI-00056-00018400-00018944 and has go again because of luminarism v_ezlOwHaOI-00057-00018945-00019912 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00058-00019913-00020094 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00059-00020095-00020286 coming in for six was it v_ezlOwHaOI-00060-00020287-00020543 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00061-00020544-00020686 i'll block three with the routes of v_ezlOwHaOI-00062-00020687-00020830 lightning v_ezlOwHaOI-00063-00020831-00020983 take three v_ezlOwHaOI-00064-00020984-00021083 goes to v_ezlOwHaOI-00065-00021084-00021319 seoul i'll then v_ezlOwHaOI-00066-00021320-00021471 pitch three and play a prismatic shield v_ezlOwHaOI-00067-00021472-00021783 making three spectral shields v_ezlOwHaOI-00068-00021784-00021950 and then we will swing at the spectrum v_ezlOwHaOI-00069-00021951-00022078 ship v_ezlOwHaOI-00070-00022079-00022112 uh v_ezlOwHaOI-00071-00022113-00022278 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00072-00022279-00022519 take one so swinging v_ezlOwHaOI-00073-00022520-00022686 yeah those things are all three spectral v_ezlOwHaOI-00074-00022687-00022919 shields yeah take free v_ezlOwHaOI-00075-00022920-00023007 cool v_ezlOwHaOI-00076-00023008-00023783 and past time v_ezlOwHaOI-00077-00023784-00024030 my turn of pitch and exude play v_ezlOwHaOI-00078-00024031-00024335 electrify drawing a card it's a blue so v_ezlOwHaOI-00079-00024336-00024519 if it hits the next attack hits it deals v_ezlOwHaOI-00080-00024520-00024686 one v_ezlOwHaOI-00081-00024687-00025646 so i'll draw one v_ezlOwHaOI-00082-00025647-00025967 i'll play bold lightning for two if it v_ezlOwHaOI-00083-00025968-00026262 hits it deals an additional two v_ezlOwHaOI-00084-00026263-00026390 uh v_ezlOwHaOI-00085-00026391-00026518 yeah does it have go again or anything v_ezlOwHaOI-00086-00026519-00026711 like that ah it does have golden yes v_ezlOwHaOI-00087-00026712-00026902 itself has go again cool v_ezlOwHaOI-00088-00026904-00027135 and i was in for two yeah yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00089-00027136-00027246 cool v_ezlOwHaOI-00090-00027247-00027272 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00091-00027273-00027455 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00092-00027456-00027751 no resources two cars in hand yeah yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00093-00027752-00028246 alrighty um v_ezlOwHaOI-00094-00028247-00028423 will block for three v_ezlOwHaOI-00095-00028424-00028614 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00096-00028616-00028783 and then i will v_ezlOwHaOI-00097-00028783-00029046 swing forward online in search v_ezlOwHaOI-00098-00029047-00029151 thankful v_ezlOwHaOI-00099-00029152-00029374 cool uh lose my three spectral shields v_ezlOwHaOI-00100-00029375-00029495 and take one v_ezlOwHaOI-00101-00029495-00029713 yeah in our hospital plus v_ezlOwHaOI-00102-00029714-00029967 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00103-00029968-00030127 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00104-00030127-00030439 let's take a i think electrify is next v_ezlOwHaOI-00105-00030439-00030646 attack action to hit right v_ezlOwHaOI-00106-00030647-00030943 yeah that should work next to hit ipads v_ezlOwHaOI-00107-00030944-00031079 next time attack actually hits so it v_ezlOwHaOI-00108-00031080-00031270 deals one so it deals two okay so i v_ezlOwHaOI-00109-00031272-00031431 would take an extra one yeah and then v_ezlOwHaOI-00110-00031432-00031702 pull the lighting effect there as well v_ezlOwHaOI-00111-00031703-00031783 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00112-00031783-00031927 well lightning didn't hit v_ezlOwHaOI-00113-00031927-00032055 ball online doesn't need to hit to v_ezlOwHaOI-00114-00032056-00032255 amplify the damage that you're taking ah v_ezlOwHaOI-00115-00032256-00032335 okay v_ezlOwHaOI-00116-00032336-00032590 it's just on every anything on the chain v_ezlOwHaOI-00117-00032591-00032695 yeah okay i would have blocked v_ezlOwHaOI-00118-00032695-00032974 differently then whoops however v_ezlOwHaOI-00119-00032975-00033190 and i'll create what is it two v_ezlOwHaOI-00120-00033191-00033343 i think yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00121-00033344-00033551 yeah it would be two yeah and then yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00122-00033552-00033639 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00123-00033640-00033774 all right too easy we've already moved v_ezlOwHaOI-00124-00033775-00033951 past i would have blocked harder so it v_ezlOwHaOI-00125-00033952-00034215 didn't hit if i realized that's v_ezlOwHaOI-00126-00034216-00034423 a big group as well i should have v_ezlOwHaOI-00127-00034424-00034751 realized that that's all good uh so in v_ezlOwHaOI-00128-00034752-00034862 your v_ezlOwHaOI-00129-00034863-00035046 and we will pitch one to make a spectral v_ezlOwHaOI-00130-00035047-00035335 shield yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00131-00035336-00035543 uh my turn b will v_ezlOwHaOI-00132-00035544-00035671 pitch to v_ezlOwHaOI-00133-00035672-00035839 to make another spectral shield and then v_ezlOwHaOI-00134-00035840-00036174 hit the two spectral shields ah take two v_ezlOwHaOI-00135-00036175-00036655 yep arsenal and pass v_ezlOwHaOI-00136-00036656-00036807 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00137-00036808-00037007 my turn i'll pitch an electrifier to v_ezlOwHaOI-00138-00037008-00037215 play an electrify for arsenal draw on a v_ezlOwHaOI-00139-00037216-00037535 card uh yep response we will pitch six v_ezlOwHaOI-00140-00037536-00037843 and arclight sentinel from arsenal v_ezlOwHaOI-00141-00037844-00038374 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00142-00038375-00038590 oh hill3 v_ezlOwHaOI-00143-00038591-00038862 one two three v_ezlOwHaOI-00144-00038863-00039127 oh pitch v_ezlOwHaOI-00145-00039128-00039439 heaven's claws and rosetta phone yeah uh v_ezlOwHaOI-00146-00039440-00039695 i sent all those yeah and i'll answer v_ezlOwHaOI-00147-00039696-00040135 this v_ezlOwHaOI-00148-00040136-00040287 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00149-00040288-00040559 my turn v_ezlOwHaOI-00150-00040560-00041062 i'll let you drop am i not first v_ezlOwHaOI-00151-00041063-00041255 yeah uh no go again i'll just smack with v_ezlOwHaOI-00152-00041256-00041407 one of the spectral shirts v_ezlOwHaOI-00153-00041408-00041527 take one v_ezlOwHaOI-00154-00041528-00041743 yeah i'll arsenal and pass v_ezlOwHaOI-00155-00041744-00041967 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00156-00041968-00042502 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00157-00042503-00042751 my turn i'll play v_ezlOwHaOI-00158-00042752-00042943 weave lightning so plus one to next v_ezlOwHaOI-00159-00042944-00043302 attack if it's fused the games go again v_ezlOwHaOI-00160-00043303-00043535 i'll swing with a ball lightning for v_ezlOwHaOI-00161-00043536-00043727 four if it hits v_ezlOwHaOI-00162-00043728-00043902 comes in for an additional one v_ezlOwHaOI-00163-00043903-00044102 so in for four v_ezlOwHaOI-00164-00044103-00044183 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00165-00044184-00044358 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00166-00044359-00044511 block three and lose the spectral shield v_ezlOwHaOI-00167-00044512-00044662 so it does not hit v_ezlOwHaOI-00168-00044663-00044779 so it doesn't hit v_ezlOwHaOI-00169-00044780-00045623 yet um v_ezlOwHaOI-00170-00045624-00045839 i'll then play a lightning search coming v_ezlOwHaOI-00171-00045840-00045958 in for four v_ezlOwHaOI-00172-00045959-00046095 in before v_ezlOwHaOI-00173-00046096-00046271 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00174-00046272-00046495 and it doesn't get it gets plus one from v_ezlOwHaOI-00175-00046496-00046623 ball lightning yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00176-00046624-00046830 yeah plus one ball line if it hits v_ezlOwHaOI-00177-00046831-00047062 and plus anything from b planning v_ezlOwHaOI-00178-00047063-00047415 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00179-00047416-00047830 no no cool we've left um v_ezlOwHaOI-00180-00047831-00048135 uh we will declare no blockers v_ezlOwHaOI-00181-00048136-00048318 yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00182-00048319-00048783 yep any attack racks v_ezlOwHaOI-00183-00048784-00049127 i'll put one a lightning press over v_ezlOwHaOI-00184-00049128-00049279 so coming in for additional three so it v_ezlOwHaOI-00185-00049280-00049446 comes in for seven in total v_ezlOwHaOI-00186-00049447-00049855 uh yuck all right um v_ezlOwHaOI-00187-00049856-00050079 lose the spectral shield and take six v_ezlOwHaOI-00188-00050080-00050262 take six plus the one from ball v_ezlOwHaOI-00189-00050263-00050455 lightning yeah so i'm taking seven v_ezlOwHaOI-00190-00050456-00050799 regardless then yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00191-00050800-00051254 and i'll ask all this card and pus v_ezlOwHaOI-00192-00051255-00051766 all righty v_ezlOwHaOI-00193-00051767-00052038 yeah my turn we will v_ezlOwHaOI-00194-00052039-00052463 i don't have dreamweavers whoops v_ezlOwHaOI-00195-00052464-00052694 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00196-00052695-00052854 also not relevant at the moment but the v_ezlOwHaOI-00197-00052855-00052982 stuff from ball lightning and whatnot is v_ezlOwHaOI-00198-00052983-00053103 that arcane damage or just one v_ezlOwHaOI-00199-00053104-00053247 additional damage v_ezlOwHaOI-00200-00053248-00053479 as well so any okay v_ezlOwHaOI-00201-00053479-00053694 yeah i didn't intend on pitching the v_ezlOwHaOI-00202-00053695-00053815 block them anyway it's just more for v_ezlOwHaOI-00203-00053816-00053942 future reference v_ezlOwHaOI-00204-00053944-00054142 sorry the additional damage that ball v_ezlOwHaOI-00205-00054144-00054335 lining does is just not whatever the v_ezlOwHaOI-00206-00054336-00054559 damage source is so you would also v_ezlOwHaOI-00207-00054560-00054775 multiply any arcane damage and add an v_ezlOwHaOI-00208-00054776-00054959 additional one to it before the physical v_ezlOwHaOI-00209-00054960-00055126 damage that's commenting it's still just v_ezlOwHaOI-00210-00055127-00055335 having an additional physical for what v_ezlOwHaOI-00211-00055336-00055615 it was going to deal okay yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00212-00055616-00055879 all right so we will pitch a yellow v_ezlOwHaOI-00213-00055879-00056030 and play a harold a try for seven with v_ezlOwHaOI-00214-00056032-00056399 go again v_ezlOwHaOI-00215-00056400-00056599 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00216-00056600-00056823 i have one of these triumph reducing the v_ezlOwHaOI-00217-00056824-00056982 power about one so it's harder to break v_ezlOwHaOI-00218-00056983-00057750 it v_ezlOwHaOI-00219-00057751-00057777 one v_ezlOwHaOI-00220-00057778-00058415 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00221-00058416-00058526 block in v_ezlOwHaOI-00222-00058527-00058759 four taking v_ezlOwHaOI-00223-00058760-00058882 three v_ezlOwHaOI-00224-00058883-00059135 yep it goes to seoul v_ezlOwHaOI-00225-00059136-00059359 i'll then i'll pitch three and play a v_ezlOwHaOI-00226-00059360-00059511 prismatic shield making three spectral v_ezlOwHaOI-00227-00059512-00059726 shields yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00228-00059727-00059887 and then we'll come in with the three v_ezlOwHaOI-00229-00059888-00060038 spectral shields v_ezlOwHaOI-00230-00060039-00060206 uh take free v_ezlOwHaOI-00231-00060207-00060303 cool v_ezlOwHaOI-00232-00060304-00060663 and pass that v_ezlOwHaOI-00233-00060664-00060926 key v_ezlOwHaOI-00234-00060927-00061135 i'll play an easter egg choosing go v_ezlOwHaOI-00235-00061136-00061247 again v_ezlOwHaOI-00236-00061248-00061412 not bottom of card v_ezlOwHaOI-00237-00061413-00061750 [Music] v_ezlOwHaOI-00238-00061751-00062006 yeah um v_ezlOwHaOI-00239-00062007-00062182 block three v_ezlOwHaOI-00240-00062183-00063015 and just lose two spectral shots yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00241-00063016-00063182 i'll swing an v_ezlOwHaOI-00242-00063183-00063542 arcanic crackle for one arcane and free v_ezlOwHaOI-00243-00063544-00063679 physical v_ezlOwHaOI-00244-00063679-00063950 yeah um block to three physical and the v_ezlOwHaOI-00245-00063951-00064287 one i can pop suspect shield yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00246-00064288-00064679 um two cards in hand v_ezlOwHaOI-00247-00064679-00064966 yeah that's fine and uh v_ezlOwHaOI-00248-00064967-00065135 yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00249-00065136-00065326 um my time we will pitch to play a v_ezlOwHaOI-00250-00065327-00065487 library and pass back v_ezlOwHaOI-00251-00065488-00067063 yep v_ezlOwHaOI-00252-00067064-00067326 okay v_ezlOwHaOI-00253-00067327-00067631 i'll pitch sync below v_ezlOwHaOI-00254-00067632-00067799 to play v_ezlOwHaOI-00255-00067800-00067982 live for life for four doesn't have go v_ezlOwHaOI-00256-00067983-00068111 again v_ezlOwHaOI-00257-00068112-00068511 full of no go again yep um v_ezlOwHaOI-00258-00068512-00068671 block three v_ezlOwHaOI-00259-00068672-00069006 i will v_ezlOwHaOI-00260-00069007-00069326 put a lightning press over the top then v_ezlOwHaOI-00261-00069327-00069606 pitch one and razor over the top v_ezlOwHaOI-00262-00069607-00069838 yuck um v_ezlOwHaOI-00263-00069839-00069959 so that's v_ezlOwHaOI-00264-00069960-00070055 plus v_ezlOwHaOI-00265-00070056-00070335 six in total plus six in total v_ezlOwHaOI-00266-00070336-00070599 yep uh we're gonna go digging and see if v_ezlOwHaOI-00267-00070600-00070806 i can top deck a v_ezlOwHaOI-00268-00070807-00071159 oh no i can do other stuff still um v_ezlOwHaOI-00269-00071160-00071319 uh how do i do this i'm blocking three v_ezlOwHaOI-00270-00071320-00071671 plus six in total so i need v_ezlOwHaOI-00271-00071672-00071791 how much damage is coming in total at v_ezlOwHaOI-00272-00071792-00071959 the moment i'm getting seven aren't i v_ezlOwHaOI-00273-00071960-00072167 yes seven in total coming through v_ezlOwHaOI-00274-00072168-00072431 cool um v_ezlOwHaOI-00275-00072432-00072591 we'll pitch three and break halo of v_ezlOwHaOI-00276-00072592-00072799 elimination and put a card in seoul and v_ezlOwHaOI-00277-00072800-00073191 draw a cup v_ezlOwHaOI-00278-00073192-00073343 um v_ezlOwHaOI-00279-00073344-00073671 down to the two floating we will make v_ezlOwHaOI-00280-00073672-00073919 uh a spectral shield oh do i want to do v_ezlOwHaOI-00281-00073920-00074119 that because v_ezlOwHaOI-00282-00074120-00074367 seven i need to block another six um v_ezlOwHaOI-00283-00074368-00074567 two floating v_ezlOwHaOI-00284-00074568-00074799 no we won't do that yeah we'll pitch and v_ezlOwHaOI-00285-00074800-00074911 our client sent off for three going to v_ezlOwHaOI-00286-00074912-00075047 five resources and we'll continue v_ezlOwHaOI-00287-00075048-00075199 digging playing a tournament divinity v_ezlOwHaOI-00288-00075200-00075303 drawing three cards because the card v_ezlOwHaOI-00289-00075304-00075550 entered seoul this time v_ezlOwHaOI-00290-00075551-00075679 three v_ezlOwHaOI-00291-00075680-00075911 and still proceed to hit nothing uh make v_ezlOwHaOI-00292-00075912-00076303 a spectral shield and eat i guess v_ezlOwHaOI-00293-00076304-00076471 oh man v_ezlOwHaOI-00294-00076472-00076711 sorry about that up no no no it's v_ezlOwHaOI-00295-00076712-00076959 all good new cards man i'm sort of i v_ezlOwHaOI-00296-00076960-00077143 expected a bit here and there tonight v_ezlOwHaOI-00297-00077144-00077271 i'm still kind of getting a bit of v_ezlOwHaOI-00298-00077272-00077399 acquainted with the deck even though i v_ezlOwHaOI-00299-00077400-00077655 play test it a little bit but um yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00300-00077656-00077775 it's just v_ezlOwHaOI-00301-00077776-00078015 learning and ball lining it can be such v_ezlOwHaOI-00302-00078016-00078238 a confusing card sometimes v_ezlOwHaOI-00303-00078239-00078423 yeah like um the amount of questions v_ezlOwHaOI-00304-00078424-00078550 i've seen on judge hub football v_ezlOwHaOI-00305-00078551-00078726 lightnings just v_ezlOwHaOI-00306-00078727-00079047 please yeah 100 100 if i'd realized that v_ezlOwHaOI-00307-00079048-00079175 the electrophile was the next hit in the v_ezlOwHaOI-00308-00079176-00079303 ball lightning was the next hit as well v_ezlOwHaOI-00309-00079304-00079415 i would have just completely blocked out v_ezlOwHaOI-00310-00079416-00079615 the last one rather than copying copying v_ezlOwHaOI-00311-00079616-00079759 one from it v_ezlOwHaOI-00312-00079760-00079887 i v_ezlOwHaOI-00313-00079888-00080119 did not realize about electrify being v_ezlOwHaOI-00314-00080120-00080399 next hit yeah v_ezlOwHaOI-00315-00080400-00080575 100 from watching people play v_ezlOwHaOI-00316-00080576-00080888 pre-release i thought electrify v_HpeuccQbM-00000-00000000-00000157 hello everybody today we're gonna be v_HpeuccQbM-00001-00000158-00000530 playing some ultimate custom night so v_HpeuccQbM-00002-00000531-00000719 we're gonna pawn some characters okay v_HpeuccQbM-00003-00000720-00001115 Bonnie boy Barney by the way we're v_HpeuccQbM-00004-00001116-00001262 trying to get a point six thousand v_HpeuccQbM-00005-00001263-00002140 points whoa chica mango balloon boy JJ v_HpeuccQbM-00006-00002141-00002465 nightmare Freddy all of the paint from v_HpeuccQbM-00007-00002466-00002645 them is so I'm gonna put it all the way v_HpeuccQbM-00008-00002646-00003071 up to 20 including spring-trap now v_HpeuccQbM-00009-00003072-00003601 golden Freddy both of the wizard boys v_HpeuccQbM-00010-00003602-00003953 both of the nightmares that are right v_HpeuccQbM-00011-00003954-00004588 here not these is pretty hard and I v_HpeuccQbM-00012-00004589-00005006 usually have the I don't have the fan on v_HpeuccQbM-00013-00005007-00005201 so I'll do I'll do the heat characters v_HpeuccQbM-00014-00005202-00005379 maybe in a later episode v_HpeuccQbM-00015-00005380-00005827 so I'm let's put on their consequences v_HpeuccQbM-00016-00005828-00006985 Laura both of the rock stars he'll be in v_HpeuccQbM-00017-00006986-00007471 the game and brother foxy you never v_HpeuccQbM-00018-00007472-00007853 forget work star foxy oh wait I said all v_HpeuccQbM-00019-00007854-00008035 the rock stars I meant that besides v_HpeuccQbM-00020-00008036-00008128 sweet pika v_HpeuccQbM-00021-00008129-00008317 I was about to say like why isn't so v_HpeuccQbM-00022-00008318-00008531 chickens I mean why isn't rock star v_HpeuccQbM-00023-00008532-00008663 chick in this game button you know I'm v_HpeuccQbM-00024-00008664-00008816 just right here v_HpeuccQbM-00025-00008817-00009110 so first things first for my strategy v_HpeuccQbM-00026-00009111-00009271 for this because there's no key v_HpeuccQbM-00027-00009272-00009806 characters I just I turned the dust at v_HpeuccQbM-00028-00009807-00010100 the desk fan off put the power generator v_HpeuccQbM-00029-00010101-00010433 on and then BOOM I mean I'll probably v_HpeuccQbM-00030-00010434-00010580 forget I'm one of these attempts I might v_HpeuccQbM-00031-00010581-00010742 be doing this preview like 20 minutes or v_HpeuccQbM-00032-00010743-00011105 so let's give this is this three minutes v_HpeuccQbM-00033-00011106-00011306 in or is finally starting so sorry about v_HpeuccQbM-00034-00011307-00012281 that long-ass interim I'll wild let me v_HpeuccQbM-00035-00012282-00014572 forgot oh I didn't mean to die but y'all v_HpeuccQbM-00036-00014573-00015263 wish you could so I hope you know that's v_HpeuccQbM-00037-00015263-00015665 a threat do it twelve-year-old you can v_HpeuccQbM-00038-00015666-00015997 get arrested you will get the arrested v_HpeuccQbM-00039-00015998-00016260 molest the arrest in the list v_HpeuccQbM-00040-00016261-00017059 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00041-00017060-00019181 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00042-00019182-00019308 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00043-00019309-00019858 [Applause] v_HpeuccQbM-00044-00019859-00021228 parking lot v_HpeuccQbM-00045-00021229-00021281 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00046-00021282-00022775 [Applause] v_HpeuccQbM-00047-00022776-00023710 won't work dick always come by is that I v_HpeuccQbM-00048-00023711-00024078 need to work on pressing enter for L v_HpeuccQbM-00049-00024079-00024303 chips ads cuz they always go to click v_HpeuccQbM-00050-00024304-00026485 when it's faster just a hit oh and more v_HpeuccQbM-00051-00026486-00026794 importantly always been so good v_HpeuccQbM-00052-00026795-00027550 attacked by nightmare young well which v_HpeuccQbM-00053-00027551-00028431 is to my advantage v_HpeuccQbM-00055-00031637-00032167 oh well I've never given flesh to be v_HpeuccQbM-00056-00032168-00032457 your tormentor v_HpeuccQbM-00057-00032458-00032796 so that's the most terrifying v_HpeuccQbM-00058-00032797-00033400 animatronic in all of finesse for you at v_HpeuccQbM-00059-00033401-00033790 least in my opinion and giving him a v_HpeuccQbM-00060-00033791-00034558 voice made it no better oh I don't know v_HpeuccQbM-00061-00034559-00034668 I'm not a man v_HpeuccQbM-00062-00034669-00034924 I'll let him like when I go to like 7000 v_HpeuccQbM-00063-00034925-00035368 but like I'm gonna hold that off for now v_HpeuccQbM-00064-00035369-00035652 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00065-00035653-00036106 it's been a couple minute acts to me v_HpeuccQbM-00066-00036107-00037286 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00067-00037287-00038164 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00068-00038165-00039249 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00069-00039250-00039703 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00070-00039704-00040887 [Applause] v_HpeuccQbM-00071-00040888-00042424 don't be shy I will be shy v_HpeuccQbM-00072-00042425-00044800 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00073-00044801-00045912 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00074-00045913-00046749 [Applause] v_HpeuccQbM-00075-00046750-00047205 what a gift to relish a victim that can v_HpeuccQbM-00076-00047206-00047890 spare a nice rhyming scheme but what's v_HpeuccQbM-00077-00047891-00048158 the scheme you're gonna use to kill me v_HpeuccQbM-00078-00048159-00048742 over and over again oh wait I can't v_HpeuccQbM-00079-00048743-00050140 parish that's what he just said don't v_HpeuccQbM-00080-00050141-00050583 care that he's threatening you care v_HpeuccQbM-00081-00050584-00050993 about your rhyming v_HpeuccQbM-00082-00050994-00052117 [Applause] v_HpeuccQbM-00083-00052119-00052587 wait did I is possible one way out when v_HpeuccQbM-00084-00052588-00052667 I was dead v_HpeuccQbM-00085-00052669-00054384 did you guys hear that - yeah strike - v_HpeuccQbM-00086-00054385-00054591 look that like boom you could have been v_HpeuccQbM-00087-00054591-00055170 able to kill me right there v_HpeuccQbM-00088-00055171-00056719 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00089-00056720-00057471 I don't like this v_HpeuccQbM-00090-00057472-00058401 something is very off here here we got v_HpeuccQbM-00091-00058402-00060910 you the nail that sticks out gets v_HpeuccQbM-00092-00060911-00061992 hammered down yeah I want to get at v_HpeuccQbM-00093-00061994-00062290 least 30 seconds that's my goal my main v_HpeuccQbM-00094-00062291-00064397 goal is to blow up there oh no nobody v_HpeuccQbM-00095-00064398-00065088 [Music] v_HpeuccQbM-00096-00065089-00066223 the others are under my protection so v_HpeuccQbM-00097-00066224-00066421 this is the end of the episode today v_HpeuccQbM-00098-00066422-00066663 thank you guys for watching you probably v_HpeuccQbM-00099-00066664-00066991 didn't watch till here except Jules you v_HpeuccQbM-00100-00066992-00067779 legend I told you to suck it last time v_HpeuccQbM-00101-00067780-00068736 good v_HpeuccQbM-00102-00068737-00068943 you vAgb0Ey1bvU-00000-00000287-00001928 [Music] vAgb0Ey1bvU-00001-00001929-00002842 [Music] vAgb0Ey1bvU-00002-00002843-00005435 [Music] vAgb0Ey1bvU-00004-00008775-00008984 you vBKTcMjP-0Y-00000-00001055-00001212 foreign vBKTcMjP-0Y-00001-00001213-00004006 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00002-00004007-00004516 foreign vBKTcMjP-0Y-00003-00004517-00004629 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00004-00004630-00005257 [Applause] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00005-00005258-00007067 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00006-00007068-00007222 foreign vBKTcMjP-0Y-00007-00007223-00009606 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00008-00009607-00009723 thank you vBKTcMjP-0Y-00009-00009724-00011087 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00010-00011088-00011367 foreign vBKTcMjP-0Y-00011-00011368-00011489 [Applause] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00012-00011490-00012480 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00013-00012481-00012528 [Applause] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00014-00012529-00014024 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00015-00014025-00014443 [Applause] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00016-00014444-00014682 thank you vBKTcMjP-0Y-00017-00014683-00015703 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00018-00015704-00016263 thank you vBKTcMjP-0Y-00019-00016265-00017891 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00020-00017892-00018254 foreign vBKTcMjP-0Y-00021-00018255-00019151 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00022-00019152-00021529 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00023-00021530-00022344 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00024-00022345-00022516 [Applause] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00025-00022517-00022980 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00026-00022981-00023138 thank you vBKTcMjP-0Y-00027-00023139-00024282 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00028-00024283-00025737 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00029-00025738-00027674 [Music] vBKTcMjP-0Y-00031-00032174-00032320 thank you vBKTcMjP-0Y-00032-00032322-00032531 [Music] vDV3DuN34yQ-00000-00000223-00001491 [Music] vDV3DuN34yQ-00001-00001492-00002942 so vDV3DuN34yQ-00002-00002943-00003479 you have two new messages vDV3DuN34yQ-00003-00003479-00003767 hello again so the big boss man told me vDV3DuN34yQ-00004-00003768-00004006 to inform you about our off-limit areas vDV3DuN34yQ-00005-00004007-00004183 uh i know that sounds kind of silly vDV3DuN34yQ-00006-00004184-00004327 since you're supposed to be guarding the vDV3DuN34yQ-00007-00004328-00004502 place but the manager is adamant that we vDV3DuN34yQ-00008-00004503-00004543 don't go vDV3DuN34yQ-00009-00004544-00004735 where we're not supposed to be he's vDV3DuN34yQ-00010-00004736-00004879 mostly talking about the rooms that vDV3DuN34yQ-00011-00004880-00004975 aren't on your little vDV3DuN34yQ-00012-00004976-00005206 mini map they aren't on the map because vDV3DuN34yQ-00013-00005207-00005438 it apparently isn't any of your business vDV3DuN34yQ-00014-00005439-00005751 or ours for that sake like that extra vDV3DuN34yQ-00015-00005752-00005991 room next to the parts services vDV3DuN34yQ-00016-00005992-00006270 you can see the door from camera nine vDV3DuN34yQ-00017-00006271-00006703 yes thank you here vDV3DuN34yQ-00018-00006704-00006975 excuse the sound of my delicious latte vDV3DuN34yQ-00019-00006976-00007046 uh anyway vDV3DuN34yQ-00020-00007047-00007246 the man here says it's just a storage vDV3DuN34yQ-00021-00007247-00007351 room but vDV3DuN34yQ-00022-00007352-00007527 i've of course heard many stories from vDV3DuN34yQ-00023-00007528-00007759 my superstitious colleagues vDV3DuN34yQ-00024-00007759-00007974 so it's either an actual kitchen a vDV3DuN34yQ-00025-00007975-00008214 staircase to a secret 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vDV3DuN34yQ-00132-00121057-00122663 [Music] vDV3DuN34yQ-00133-00122664-00122872 you vDbfwbOEZtk-00000-00000008-00000223 hello my juju family i'm your fun loving vDbfwbOEZtk-00001-00000224-00000534 happy vlogger vDbfwbOEZtk-00002-00000535-00000871 today i came here to the health kitchen vDbfwbOEZtk-00003-00000872-00001143 where gordon ramsay has made this vDbfwbOEZtk-00004-00001144-00001399 restaurant this place is so hard to make vDbfwbOEZtk-00005-00001400-00001630 a reservation just so you know because vDbfwbOEZtk-00006-00001632-00001918 it's packed but i'm so excited to see vDbfwbOEZtk-00007-00001919-00002207 what they have to offer so let's go choo vDbfwbOEZtk-00008-00002208-00002502 choo vDbfwbOEZtk-00009-00002503-00002718 in case you're wondering we are in las vDbfwbOEZtk-00010-00002719-00003023 vegas and gordon really has his name on vDbfwbOEZtk-00011-00003024-00003390 the billboard all over las vegas vDbfwbOEZtk-00012-00003392-00003615 this particular one is outside of vDbfwbOEZtk-00013-00003615-00003886 caesar's palace where serendipity was vDbfwbOEZtk-00014-00003887-00004031 before vDbfwbOEZtk-00015-00004032-00004351 check out that fire led screen vDbfwbOEZtk-00016-00004352-00004506 it's cool isn't it vDbfwbOEZtk-00017-00004507-00005263 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00018-00005264-00005438 menu vDbfwbOEZtk-00019-00005439-00005695 they do not have a lot of items on here vDbfwbOEZtk-00020-00005696-00005967 but they do come with a three course vDbfwbOEZtk-00021-00005968-00006254 prefix menu for you to try vDbfwbOEZtk-00022-00006255-00006463 i thought why not give a try with a few vDbfwbOEZtk-00023-00006464-00006791 items here so we ordered a prefix menu vDbfwbOEZtk-00024-00006792-00007078 and another braids short rib as another vDbfwbOEZtk-00025-00007079-00007219 main course vDbfwbOEZtk-00026-00007220-00007839 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00027-00007840-00008055 check out the view vDbfwbOEZtk-00028-00008056-00008255 the place we say is almost like an vDbfwbOEZtk-00029-00008256-00008503 extension from the inside with floor vDbfwbOEZtk-00030-00008504-00008762 windows around it vDbfwbOEZtk-00031-00008763-00009055 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00032-00009056-00009527 pan seared scallop for the first course vDbfwbOEZtk-00033-00009528-00009863 doesn't look like a lot but vDbfwbOEZtk-00034-00009864-00010111 it's an appetizer all right vDbfwbOEZtk-00035-00010112-00011023 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00036-00011024-00011271 fresh and tenderness vDbfwbOEZtk-00037-00011272-00011567 i like it vDbfwbOEZtk-00038-00011568-00011919 now check out this beef wellington for vDbfwbOEZtk-00039-00011920-00012223 the main course the combination of this vDbfwbOEZtk-00040-00012224-00012503 thick steak and the pastry shell from vDbfwbOEZtk-00041-00012504-00012678 the outside vDbfwbOEZtk-00042-00012679-00012935 welcome back to that in a second vDbfwbOEZtk-00043-00012936-00013399 and check out this braids short ribs vDbfwbOEZtk-00044-00013400-00013727 omg vDbfwbOEZtk-00045-00013728-00013919 look at the plating vDbfwbOEZtk-00046-00013919-00014255 i mean i got tried a piece i gotta try vDbfwbOEZtk-00047-00014256-00014738 this now vDbfwbOEZtk-00048-00014740-00016255 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00049-00016256-00016439 hmm vDbfwbOEZtk-00050-00016440-00016679 it's not bad i mean vDbfwbOEZtk-00051-00016680-00017158 let's go back to the beef wellington vDbfwbOEZtk-00052-00017159-00017543 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00053-00017544-00017767 the outside breading soak up all the vDbfwbOEZtk-00054-00017768-00017967 juice from the beef vDbfwbOEZtk-00055-00017968-00018214 it's such an amazing presentation and vDbfwbOEZtk-00056-00018215-00018511 they cooked just right vDbfwbOEZtk-00057-00018512-00018801 you gotta come here and try this vDbfwbOEZtk-00058-00018802-00019079 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00059-00019080-00019430 sticky toffee pudding topped with vDbfwbOEZtk-00060-00019431-00019871 vanilla ice cream vDbfwbOEZtk-00061-00019872-00020530 this is going to be very sweet vDbfwbOEZtk-00062-00020531-00021263 [Music] vDbfwbOEZtk-00063-00021264-00021543 it is sweet vDbfwbOEZtk-00064-00021544-00021758 brain freeze vDbfwbOEZtk-00065-00021759-00021919 i am so stuffed vDbfwbOEZtk-00066-00021920-00022247 their food is definitely delicious so vDbfwbOEZtk-00067-00022248-00022463 you gotta come check it out is the vDbfwbOEZtk-00068-00022464-00022686 health kitchen at the caesars palace vDbfwbOEZtk-00069-00022687-00022919 there's so many different gordon mentees vDbfwbOEZtk-00070-00022920-00023191 restaurants so maybe if you want me to vDbfwbOEZtk-00071-00023192-00023447 try it out please leave in the comments vDbfwbOEZtk-00072-00023448-00023575 otherwise vDbfwbOEZtk-00073-00023576-00023735 talk to you soon vDbfwbOEZtk-00074-00023736-00024036 bye vFVXy-ZG-GM-00000-00001960-00002134 welcome everyone vFVXy-ZG-GM-00001-00002135-00002342 thank you everyone for joining us i am vFVXy-ZG-GM-00002-00002343-00002510 dr michelle villagron vFVXy-ZG-GM-00003-00002511-00002742 san jose state university diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00004-00002743-00002847 committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00005-00002848-00003150 chair and we welcome you to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00006-00003151-00003511 our next webinar in our 2020 diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00007-00003511-00003743 webinar series for our san jose state vFVXy-ZG-GM-00008-00003744-00003927 university faculty staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00009-00003928-00004222 students alumni and san jose state vFVXy-ZG-GM-00010-00004223-00004399 university affiliates vFVXy-ZG-GM-00011-00004400-00004711 this is our sixth webinar within our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00012-00004712-00004783 eight part vFVXy-ZG-GM-00013-00004784-00005079 series and it is the second one for fall vFVXy-ZG-GM-00014-00005080-00005238 2020. vFVXy-ZG-GM-00015-00005239-00005399 all of our presenters are sharing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00016-00005400-00005551 content around diverse vFVXy-ZG-GM-00017-00005552-00005815 topics which align with the goals and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00018-00005816-00005959 inc of occlusive vFVXy-ZG-GM-00019-00005960-00006286 of inclusive excellence uh diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00020-00006287-00006567 equity and inclusion around topics vFVXy-ZG-GM-00021-00006568-00006670 relevant to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00022-00006672-00006942 the ischool you'll be able to find a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00023-00006943-00007175 full list of our upcoming sessions vFVXy-ZG-GM-00024-00007176-00007287 topics vFVXy-ZG-GM-00025-00007288-00007574 our presenters and even the recordings vFVXy-ZG-GM-00026-00007575-00007751 of past presentations vFVXy-ZG-GM-00027-00007752-00008039 on our website we also have them vFVXy-ZG-GM-00028-00008040-00008151 available vFVXy-ZG-GM-00029-00008152-00008407 as podcasts and on our youtube page as a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00030-00008408-00008495 diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00031-00008496-00008646 playlist so you can see all of the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00032-00008647-00008967 diversity series in a playlist vFVXy-ZG-GM-00033-00008968-00009191 so with that let me introduce our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00034-00009192-00009383 speaker for today vFVXy-ZG-GM-00035-00009384-00009655 today's session is beyond platitudes vFVXy-ZG-GM-00036-00009656-00009806 making edi vFVXy-ZG-GM-00037-00009807-00010159 actionable i don't want want to welcome vFVXy-ZG-GM-00038-00010160-00010542 mimosa shaw mimosa shaw is with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00039-00010543-00010878 the skokie public library in illinois vFVXy-ZG-GM-00040-00010879-00011119 and she is an adult program coordinator vFVXy-ZG-GM-00041-00011120-00011303 so with that mimosa i'm going to turn it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00042-00011304-00011670 over to you vFVXy-ZG-GM-00043-00011671-00011895 good afternoon or i should say good vFVXy-ZG-GM-00044-00011896-00012119 morning to you and the west coast vFVXy-ZG-GM-00045-00012120-00012367 many thanks to the san jose state vFVXy-ZG-GM-00046-00012368-00012503 university high school vFVXy-ZG-GM-00047-00012504-00012807 and to dr villagren for inviting me vFVXy-ZG-GM-00048-00012808-00013143 to speak with you my name mimosasha and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00049-00013144-00013327 i'm a library worker and i currently vFVXy-ZG-GM-00050-00013328-00013671 reside just north of chicago illinois vFVXy-ZG-GM-00051-00013672-00013863 as the adult program coordinator at vFVXy-ZG-GM-00052-00013863-00014103 skokie public library i develop manage vFVXy-ZG-GM-00053-00014104-00014343 and evaluate public events for adults in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00054-00014344-00014463 our community vFVXy-ZG-GM-00055-00014463-00014871 and starting in late august i also began vFVXy-ZG-GM-00056-00014872-00015094 coursework towards a master's degree in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00057-00015095-00015279 library and information sciences vFVXy-ZG-GM-00058-00015280-00015403 at the university of illinois vFVXy-ZG-GM-00059-00015404-00015615 urbana-champaign's high school vFVXy-ZG-GM-00060-00015616-00015871 so full disclosure i am learning and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00061-00015872-00016143 growing alongside all of you as well vFVXy-ZG-GM-00062-00016144-00016430 since mid-march the library reduced and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00063-00016431-00016471 then vFVXy-ZG-GM-00064-00016472-00016758 later reintroduced services in response vFVXy-ZG-GM-00065-00016759-00016830 to the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00066-00016831-00017175 outbreak of covet 19 and so the nature vFVXy-ZG-GM-00067-00017176-00017286 of my work has vFVXy-ZG-GM-00068-00017287-00017503 changed i continue to collaborate with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00069-00017504-00017686 wonderful colleagues vFVXy-ZG-GM-00070-00017687-00017894 uh virtually as we create online vFVXy-ZG-GM-00071-00017895-00017999 experiences vFVXy-ZG-GM-00072-00018000-00018222 to learn connect and support each other vFVXy-ZG-GM-00073-00018223-00018607 during this challenging time vFVXy-ZG-GM-00074-00018608-00018847 so um i just wanted to take a few vFVXy-ZG-GM-00075-00018848-00018935 minutes to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00076-00018936-00019222 acknowledge the land that we are upon vFVXy-ZG-GM-00077-00019223-00019286 and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00078-00019287-00019599 the forced removal of indigenous groups vFVXy-ZG-GM-00079-00019600-00019822 i currently reside upon land that at one vFVXy-ZG-GM-00080-00019823-00020022 time was and may be occupied vFVXy-ZG-GM-00081-00020023-00020343 by the following indigenous groups vFVXy-ZG-GM-00082-00020344-00020686 the kika poi the peoria the potawatomi vFVXy-ZG-GM-00083-00020687-00020783 the mayamya vFVXy-ZG-GM-00084-00020784-00021086 the ochati sakawan chicago vFVXy-ZG-GM-00085-00021087-00021494 is of course home to a large urban vFVXy-ZG-GM-00086-00021495-00021678 indian population vFVXy-ZG-GM-00087-00021679-00021991 and there are organizations that are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00088-00021992-00022094 native run and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00089-00022095-00022447 led that that i should acknowledge here vFVXy-ZG-GM-00090-00022448-00022622 such as the american indian center of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00091-00022623-00022719 chicago vFVXy-ZG-GM-00092-00022720-00022943 and the center for native and indigenous vFVXy-ZG-GM-00093-00022944-00023143 research which is housed at northwestern vFVXy-ZG-GM-00094-00023144-00023311 university vFVXy-ZG-GM-00095-00023312-00023630 of course what i mentioned earlier does vFVXy-ZG-GM-00096-00023631-00023735 not vFVXy-ZG-GM-00097-00023736-00024055 get to the full extent of forced removal vFVXy-ZG-GM-00098-00024056-00024239 and indeed many of the folks i've vFVXy-ZG-GM-00099-00024240-00024383 mentioned here vFVXy-ZG-GM-00100-00024384-00024678 are flourishing self-governing people in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00101-00024679-00025014 oklahoma and the plain states today vFVXy-ZG-GM-00102-00025015-00025342 i recognize the unique privileges i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00103-00025343-00025486 personally enjoy due to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00104-00025487-00025750 colonialism and note that my presence vFVXy-ZG-GM-00105-00025751-00025846 here is partly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00106-00025847-00026174 due to the removal of these groups and i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00107-00026175-00026358 cite this acknowledgement of land and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00108-00026360-00026502 force removal because vFVXy-ZG-GM-00109-00026504-00026790 in this presentation and throughout my vFVXy-ZG-GM-00110-00026791-00026999 work i'm trying to recognize both past vFVXy-ZG-GM-00111-00027000-00027287 and present people vFVXy-ZG-GM-00112-00027288-00027511 so i just wanted to take one moment to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00113-00027512-00027655 acknowledge too that the map is vFVXy-ZG-GM-00114-00027656-00027783 incomplete vFVXy-ZG-GM-00115-00027783-00028079 it's crowdsourced and broadly researched vFVXy-ZG-GM-00116-00028080-00028118 such vFVXy-ZG-GM-00117-00028119-00028462 maps are just a starting point vFVXy-ZG-GM-00118-00028463-00028646 and the source i'm using to identify vFVXy-ZG-GM-00119-00028647-00028814 this is vFVXy-ZG-GM-00120-00028816-00029111 really in the process of trying to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00121-00029112-00029183 inspire vFVXy-ZG-GM-00122-00029183-00029551 us to ask questions and to think about vFVXy-ZG-GM-00123-00029552-00029743 how we can connect more directly with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00124-00029744-00029951 local indigenous organizations vFVXy-ZG-GM-00125-00029952-00030302 and elders some questions i'd like to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00126-00030303-00030558 address and keep in mind as well are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00127-00030560-00030839 what am i or my organization doing today vFVXy-ZG-GM-00128-00030839-00031046 beyond this acknowledgement to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00129-00031047-00031262 understand indigenous issues in my vFVXy-ZG-GM-00130-00031263-00031374 region vFVXy-ZG-GM-00131-00031375-00031574 what can i do to further learn about and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00132-00031575-00031807 incorporate an understanding of the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00133-00031808-00032023 ongoing violence and trauma vFVXy-ZG-GM-00134-00032024-00032295 that lies at the heart of colonialism vFVXy-ZG-GM-00135-00032295-00032335 and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00136-00032336-00032607 if needed voices experiences and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00137-00032608-00032695 perspectives vFVXy-ZG-GM-00138-00032695-00032943 are not represented among our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00139-00032944-00033031 organization's vFVXy-ZG-GM-00140-00033032-00033351 board or staff let's consider why vFVXy-ZG-GM-00141-00033352-00033679 not vFVXy-ZG-GM-00142-00033680-00033990 so today we will be discussing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00143-00033991-00034246 um parts of my particular institution vFVXy-ZG-GM-00144-00034247-00034351 story vFVXy-ZG-GM-00145-00034352-00034590 i will discuss how to create an equity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00146-00034591-00034871 diversity and inclusion committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00147-00034872-00035174 drafting a committee charge statement vFVXy-ZG-GM-00148-00035175-00035395 developing and setting goals based on vFVXy-ZG-GM-00149-00035396-00035599 organization-wide feedback vFVXy-ZG-GM-00150-00035600-00035815 as well as ways to strategize how to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00151-00035816-00036055 continue learning on equity diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00152-00036056-00036207 inclusion topics vFVXy-ZG-GM-00153-00036208-00036423 you'll notice that i don't specifically vFVXy-ZG-GM-00154-00036424-00036639 mention accessibility here vFVXy-ZG-GM-00155-00036640-00036846 although the library has an express vFVXy-ZG-GM-00156-00036847-00037095 accessibility specialist on staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00157-00037096-00037327 it is indeed critical to think of how to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00158-00037328-00037423 integrate vFVXy-ZG-GM-00159-00037424-00037679 accessibility as well as edi issues vFVXy-ZG-GM-00160-00037680-00037839 across departments vFVXy-ZG-GM-00161-00037840-00038111 so that we're not consistently siloed vFVXy-ZG-GM-00162-00038112-00038159 and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00163-00038160-00038471 um it is interesting to me that we have vFVXy-ZG-GM-00164-00038472-00038543 not yet vFVXy-ZG-GM-00165-00038544-00038871 renamed our committee to incorporate vFVXy-ZG-GM-00166-00038872-00038983 accessibility in the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00167-00038984-00039295 acronym but we continue to keep vFVXy-ZG-GM-00168-00039296-00039518 abreast of that and understand how to be vFVXy-ZG-GM-00169-00039519-00039783 better about it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00170-00039784-00040223 so thank you vFVXy-ZG-GM-00171-00040224-00040639 so a few words about who i am vFVXy-ZG-GM-00172-00040640-00040855 the image on this slide portrays a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00173-00040856-00041087 brown-skinned woman with blue and black vFVXy-ZG-GM-00174-00041088-00041167 hair vFVXy-ZG-GM-00175-00041168-00041543 standing in a room of um vFVXy-ZG-GM-00176-00041544-00041790 of plants full of them and wearing a red vFVXy-ZG-GM-00177-00041791-00042015 cardigan over a black dress vFVXy-ZG-GM-00178-00042016-00042223 for this presentation i will be using vFVXy-ZG-GM-00179-00042224-00042423 visual descriptions for any slides so vFVXy-ZG-GM-00180-00042424-00042487 that i can vFVXy-ZG-GM-00181-00042488-00042718 be more accessible to those reviewing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00182-00042719-00042887 the presentation on a device without vFVXy-ZG-GM-00183-00042888-00043055 video capabilities vFVXy-ZG-GM-00184-00043056-00043374 or anyone experiencing low vision vFVXy-ZG-GM-00185-00043375-00043679 i am a first generation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00186-00043680-00043974 immigrant settler of south asian descent vFVXy-ZG-GM-00187-00043975-00044118 i am an able-bodied vFVXy-ZG-GM-00188-00044119-00044399 cisgender heterosexual woman from a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00189-00044400-00044479 middle class vFVXy-ZG-GM-00190-00044480-00044783 and uppercast background my pronouns vFVXy-ZG-GM-00191-00044784-00045087 are she her and hers and it's important vFVXy-ZG-GM-00192-00045088-00045318 for me to do this to share with you who vFVXy-ZG-GM-00193-00045319-00045343 i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00194-00045344-00045599 am because i would like to identify the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00195-00045600-00045815 position from which i speak vFVXy-ZG-GM-00196-00045816-00046095 my position indicates a certain power vFVXy-ZG-GM-00197-00046096-00046223 that i hold vFVXy-ZG-GM-00198-00046224-00046502 and part of the work is acknowledging vFVXy-ZG-GM-00199-00046503-00046718 how this power can contribute vFVXy-ZG-GM-00200-00046719-00046958 to pressure that i knowingly or vFVXy-ZG-GM-00201-00046959-00047190 consciously benefit from vFVXy-ZG-GM-00202-00047191-00047462 the reason i am so invested and believe vFVXy-ZG-GM-00203-00047463-00047574 in doing this work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00204-00047575-00047855 is because i believe in working towards vFVXy-ZG-GM-00205-00047856-00048143 equitable just and inclusive spaces vFVXy-ZG-GM-00206-00048144-00048407 it aligns with my personal values of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00207-00048408-00048623 justice and transformation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00208-00048624-00048846 and in order to continue being this vFVXy-ZG-GM-00209-00048847-00049086 effective co-conspirator i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00210-00049087-00049279 certainly need to recognize my privilege vFVXy-ZG-GM-00211-00049280-00049495 and reflect upon the ways i may or may vFVXy-ZG-GM-00212-00049496-00050327 not use that privilege vFVXy-ZG-GM-00213-00050328-00050679 so who are we skokie public library vFVXy-ZG-GM-00214-00050680-00051174 is um was well it was built in the 1950s vFVXy-ZG-GM-00215-00051175-00051263 building vFVXy-ZG-GM-00216-00051264-00051614 and debuted in 1960 this image that you vFVXy-ZG-GM-00217-00051615-00051711 see on the slide vFVXy-ZG-GM-00218-00051712-00051911 is of the library's east side and it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00219-00051912-00052142 features mid-century architecture vFVXy-ZG-GM-00220-00052144-00052294 with some additions that were made in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00221-00052295-00052535 the 1970s and 1990s vFVXy-ZG-GM-00222-00052536-00052719 the building is currently undergoing a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00223-00052720-00052854 major renovation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00224-00052855-00053159 so the interior of the building is in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00225-00053160-00053303 the process of being made more vFVXy-ZG-GM-00226-00053304-00053511 accessible and responsive to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00227-00053512-00053830 community needs who are we and where do vFVXy-ZG-GM-00228-00053832-00054030 we sit within this ecosystem of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00229-00054032-00054287 institutions working on diversity equity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00230-00054288-00054494 accessibility and inclusion vFVXy-ZG-GM-00231-00054495-00054694 here's a few initial facts about our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00232-00054695-00054863 organization vFVXy-ZG-GM-00233-00054864-00055199 we serve a suburb of 65 000 residents vFVXy-ZG-GM-00234-00055200-00055559 we have a staff of approximately 160 vFVXy-ZG-GM-00235-00055560-00055815 many of whom are part-timers we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00236-00055816-00055975 according to the most vFVXy-ZG-GM-00237-00055976-00056287 recent census bureau statistics have a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00238-00056288-00056582 immediate service population where 41 vFVXy-ZG-GM-00239-00056583-00056935 of those residing are foreign born vFVXy-ZG-GM-00240-00056936-00057135 and nearly 79 different languages are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00241-00057136-00057326 spoken throughout our community vFVXy-ZG-GM-00242-00057327-00057511 we also continue to partner with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00243-00057512-00057782 organizations like the ywca vFVXy-ZG-GM-00244-00057783-00058071 our various school districts and a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00245-00058072-00058175 national vFVXy-ZG-GM-00246-00058176-00058350 professional development organization vFVXy-ZG-GM-00247-00058351-00058607 known as seed to help develop and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00248-00058608-00058679 nurture vFVXy-ZG-GM-00249-00058679-00059007 community leaders in their understanding vFVXy-ZG-GM-00250-00059008-00059223 and their support of and strategizing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00251-00059224-00059430 around equity work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00252-00059432-00059687 public libraries like ours are vital for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00253-00059688-00059911 the cultivation of learning curiosity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00254-00059912-00060015 and growth vFVXy-ZG-GM-00255-00060016-00060206 for all ages for people of all vFVXy-ZG-GM-00256-00060207-00060319 backgrounds vFVXy-ZG-GM-00257-00060320-00060542 but how can these spaces be equitable vFVXy-ZG-GM-00258-00060544-00060766 and accessible when they haven't been vFVXy-ZG-GM-00259-00060767-00061191 historically so what do we mean vFVXy-ZG-GM-00260-00061191-00061535 by equity and inclusion our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00261-00061536-00061775 strategic plan articulates that we are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00262-00061776-00061966 working on behalf of an inclusive vFVXy-ZG-GM-00263-00061967-00062071 community vFVXy-ZG-GM-00264-00062072-00062279 it's one in which people actively seek vFVXy-ZG-GM-00265-00062279-00062454 to better understand vFVXy-ZG-GM-00266-00062455-00062735 themselves and others equity is the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00267-00062736-00062775 state vFVXy-ZG-GM-00268-00062776-00063054 for quality of being impartial or fair vFVXy-ZG-GM-00269-00063055-00063238 and it's a recognition that in the north vFVXy-ZG-GM-00270-00063239-00063415 american context there are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00271-00063416-00063726 distinct socio-historical reasons vFVXy-ZG-GM-00272-00063727-00064023 for why injustice specifically against vFVXy-ZG-GM-00273-00064024-00064223 black and indigenous persons vFVXy-ZG-GM-00274-00064224-00064591 continues to exist today this image vFVXy-ZG-GM-00275-00064591-00064775 shows people of different ages and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00276-00064776-00064894 backgrounds vFVXy-ZG-GM-00277-00064895-00065071 they're exchanging markers and drawing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00278-00065072-00065319 at tables as part of a public event vFVXy-ZG-GM-00279-00065320-00065559 in the background there's a woman using vFVXy-ZG-GM-00280-00065560-00065782 her mobile phone to take a photo of a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00281-00065783-00065847 man vFVXy-ZG-GM-00282-00065848-00066150 with his drawing i selected this image vFVXy-ZG-GM-00283-00066151-00066206 because vFVXy-ZG-GM-00284-00066207-00066479 the definitions i talked about just a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00285-00066480-00066575 few seconds ago vFVXy-ZG-GM-00286-00066576-00066750 don't really get to the heart of what vFVXy-ZG-GM-00287-00066751-00066935 inclusion and equity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00288-00066936-00067238 are about it's about being seen vFVXy-ZG-GM-00289-00067239-00067463 about being heard it's about being able vFVXy-ZG-GM-00290-00067464-00067671 to take the tools and tell your own vFVXy-ZG-GM-00291-00067672-00067759 story vFVXy-ZG-GM-00292-00067760-00068135 on your own terms vFVXy-ZG-GM-00293-00068136-00068343 so with that i just wanted to ask vFVXy-ZG-GM-00294-00068344-00068631 briefly what accessibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00295-00068632-00068855 equity and inclusion oversight do you vFVXy-ZG-GM-00296-00068856-00068999 have at your vFVXy-ZG-GM-00297-00069000-00069294 workplace do you have any task forces or vFVXy-ZG-GM-00298-00069295-00069399 committees vFVXy-ZG-GM-00299-00069400-00069631 and feel free to add them to the chat vFVXy-ZG-GM-00300-00069632-00069823 box vFVXy-ZG-GM-00301-00069824-00070159 so in response to your question vFVXy-ZG-GM-00302-00070160-00070391 we have a d i counsel at the college vFVXy-ZG-GM-00303-00070392-00070606 where i work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00304-00070607-00070799 i'm working on creating a community of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00305-00070800-00071031 practice for edi and also be forming a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00306-00071032-00071382 committee too vFVXy-ZG-GM-00307-00071383-00071582 thank you so much for doing that dr vFVXy-ZG-GM-00308-00071583-00071791 villagren vFVXy-ZG-GM-00309-00071792-00072206 so going back to that i love that there vFVXy-ZG-GM-00310-00072207-00072359 are so many efforts vFVXy-ZG-GM-00311-00072360-00072526 and different kinds of efforts being vFVXy-ZG-GM-00312-00072527-00072711 made at organizations vFVXy-ZG-GM-00313-00072712-00072919 the kinds of efforts that make sense vFVXy-ZG-GM-00314-00072920-00073094 within the parameters of each vFVXy-ZG-GM-00315-00073095-00073238 organization's vFVXy-ZG-GM-00316-00073239-00073543 staffing budget and their particular vFVXy-ZG-GM-00317-00073544-00073726 communities in which they reside and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00318-00073727-00073871 work with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00319-00073872-00074206 those are things that are also vFVXy-ZG-GM-00320-00074207-00074447 will also have a major impact on whether vFVXy-ZG-GM-00321-00074448-00074631 or not and how vFVXy-ZG-GM-00322-00074632-00074935 you determine to orchestrate and work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00323-00074936-00074991 towards vFVXy-ZG-GM-00324-00074992-00075279 equity and inclusion and accessibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00325-00075280-00075311 in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00326-00075312-00075855 your particular spaces vFVXy-ZG-GM-00327-00075856-00076303 so moving on what is an edi committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00328-00076304-00076606 so edi in our lexicon here is vFVXy-ZG-GM-00329-00076607-00076743 abbreviated form for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00330-00076744-00076959 equity diversity inclusion i've vFVXy-ZG-GM-00331-00076960-00077119 mentioned before and i'll say it again vFVXy-ZG-GM-00332-00077120-00077231 that it can and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00333-00077232-00077535 should work closely with accessibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00334-00077536-00077719 which is missing in our institutional vFVXy-ZG-GM-00335-00077720-00077799 acronym vFVXy-ZG-GM-00336-00077800-00078015 but it's referenced and consulted often vFVXy-ZG-GM-00337-00078016-00078135 in our work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00338-00078136-00078375 in this particular image there is a man vFVXy-ZG-GM-00339-00078376-00078599 who is actually our library's director vFVXy-ZG-GM-00340-00078600-00078926 richard kong and a woman holding up vFVXy-ZG-GM-00341-00078927-00079143 sides that state skokie welcomes vFVXy-ZG-GM-00342-00079144-00079447 everyone and be nice to each other treat vFVXy-ZG-GM-00343-00079448-00079606 others equally vFVXy-ZG-GM-00344-00079607-00079799 and they are doing this demonstration vFVXy-ZG-GM-00345-00079800-00080031 while standing in front of the library vFVXy-ZG-GM-00346-00080032-00080191 which documents the library's vFVXy-ZG-GM-00347-00080192-00080382 participation in a community-wide vFVXy-ZG-GM-00348-00080383-00080655 anti-racism effort with our local ywca vFVXy-ZG-GM-00349-00080656-00080967 chapter vFVXy-ZG-GM-00350-00080968-00081303 so forming an edi committee in this vFVXy-ZG-GM-00351-00081304-00081367 image vFVXy-ZG-GM-00352-00081368-00081606 you will see a group of people of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00353-00081607-00081759 different ages vFVXy-ZG-GM-00354-00081760-00082071 races ethnicities walking through the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00355-00082072-00082231 doors of an auditorium vFVXy-ZG-GM-00356-00082232-00082471 at the library following a u.s vFVXy-ZG-GM-00357-00082472-00082687 citizenship ceremony vFVXy-ZG-GM-00358-00082688-00082903 skokie's immediate and surrounding vFVXy-ZG-GM-00359-00082904-00083126 service areas are comprised of people vFVXy-ZG-GM-00360-00083127-00083191 from vFVXy-ZG-GM-00361-00083192-00083503 all walks of life and all abilities vFVXy-ZG-GM-00362-00083504-00083759 and as library workers it is both our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00363-00083760-00083855 honor vFVXy-ZG-GM-00364-00083856-00084079 and our responsibility to understand and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00365-00084080-00084343 address their experiences vFVXy-ZG-GM-00366-00084344-00084535 so what led to the formation of our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00367-00084536-00084662 committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00368-00084663-00084982 it started at the library in fall 2015 vFVXy-ZG-GM-00369-00084983-00085223 where staff from different departments vFVXy-ZG-GM-00370-00085224-00085447 convened to discuss and respond vFVXy-ZG-GM-00371-00085448-00085775 to macro and microaggressions vFVXy-ZG-GM-00372-00085776-00085999 that they had either experienced from vFVXy-ZG-GM-00373-00086000-00086094 other patrons vFVXy-ZG-GM-00374-00086095-00086479 or staff we agree that experiences of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00375-00086480-00086550 oppression vFVXy-ZG-GM-00376-00086551-00086775 due to racism and or other parts of our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00377-00086776-00086871 identity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00378-00086872-00087126 do not belong in our community let alone vFVXy-ZG-GM-00379-00087127-00087271 the library vFVXy-ZG-GM-00380-00087272-00087518 diversity and equity are fundamental vFVXy-ZG-GM-00381-00087519-00087711 values of librarianship vFVXy-ZG-GM-00382-00087712-00087935 and that extends throughout our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00383-00087936-00088038 institution vFVXy-ZG-GM-00384-00088039-00088543 and how we work with our partners vFVXy-ZG-GM-00385-00088544-00088799 so a little bit about cultural humility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00386-00088800-00088894 and why vFVXy-ZG-GM-00387-00088895-00089159 it matters and how an edi committee can vFVXy-ZG-GM-00388-00089160-00089303 help steward the growth of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00389-00089304-00089647 it in the book information services to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00390-00089648-00089847 diverse populations developing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00391-00089848-00089982 culturally competent vFVXy-ZG-GM-00392-00089983-00090294 library professionals dr nicole cook vFVXy-ZG-GM-00393-00090295-00090631 writes librarians need to work toward vFVXy-ZG-GM-00394-00090632-00090894 eradicating the culture of silence that vFVXy-ZG-GM-00395-00090895-00090967 exists vFVXy-ZG-GM-00396-00090968-00091262 in many diverse communities ensuring vFVXy-ZG-GM-00397-00091263-00091511 that all library users have positive vFVXy-ZG-GM-00398-00091512-00091815 and transformative library experiences vFVXy-ZG-GM-00399-00091816-00092399 for their patrons so cultural humility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00400-00092400-00092647 is an integral part of this because it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00401-00092648-00092726 starts with an vFVXy-ZG-GM-00402-00092727-00092974 earnest look at yourself how to put vFVXy-ZG-GM-00403-00092975-00093150 those values in practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00404-00093151-00093406 and recognize how those values engage vFVXy-ZG-GM-00405-00093407-00093526 with others vFVXy-ZG-GM-00406-00093527-00093791 around you as libraries we have a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00407-00093792-00094015 responsibility to provide opportunities vFVXy-ZG-GM-00408-00094016-00094294 for learning and support and connection vFVXy-ZG-GM-00409-00094295-00094582 and space and that learning however vFVXy-ZG-GM-00410-00094583-00094750 would be incomplete unless it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00411-00094751-00094959 encompassed a depth and variety of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00412-00094960-00095135 perspectives vFVXy-ZG-GM-00413-00095136-00095382 this past spring brought a bounty of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00414-00095383-00095535 pink dogwood and bloom vFVXy-ZG-GM-00415-00095536-00095855 as seen in this image similarly cultural vFVXy-ZG-GM-00416-00095856-00096079 humility asks us to consider the beauty vFVXy-ZG-GM-00417-00096080-00096279 and realness of us all from different vFVXy-ZG-GM-00418-00096280-00096399 perspectives vFVXy-ZG-GM-00419-00096400-00096759 and to recognize how oppression can vFVXy-ZG-GM-00420-00096760-00097287 suppress that beauty vFVXy-ZG-GM-00421-00097288-00097631 so how do we do it how do we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00422-00097632-00097950 form a committee so i should vFVXy-ZG-GM-00423-00097951-00098087 start by saying that the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00424-00098088-00098326 started in late 2015 but vFVXy-ZG-GM-00425-00098327-00098503 in the four and a half years since we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00426-00098504-00098687 still continue vFVXy-ZG-GM-00427-00098688-00098999 to deal with and work out how we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00428-00099000-00099311 actually engage um certainly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00429-00099312-00099550 getting to be a committee can take vFVXy-ZG-GM-00430-00099551-00099662 anywhere from vFVXy-ZG-GM-00431-00099663-00100047 a few months to a year even then one has vFVXy-ZG-GM-00432-00100048-00100223 to account for staff turnover vFVXy-ZG-GM-00433-00100224-00100447 funding and of course the building of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00434-00100448-00100671 trust between staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00435-00100672-00100935 we are still learning how to engage with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00436-00100936-00101031 each other vFVXy-ZG-GM-00437-00101032-00101262 to plot new challenges and respond to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00438-00101263-00101503 our staff and community at large vFVXy-ZG-GM-00439-00101504-00101694 all of this has been complicated by the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00440-00101695-00101806 pandemic vFVXy-ZG-GM-00441-00101807-00101991 in which many of us continue to work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00442-00101992-00102126 remotely and in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00443-00102127-00102326 circumstances that are incredibly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00444-00102327-00102454 uncertain vFVXy-ZG-GM-00445-00102455-00102751 not to mention the many other situations vFVXy-ZG-GM-00446-00102752-00102863 that are happening for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00447-00102864-00103151 us throughout the country the image i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00448-00103152-00103327 selected for this slide there's a group vFVXy-ZG-GM-00449-00103328-00103510 of young people of different races and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00450-00103511-00103686 ethnicities sitting with two staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00451-00103688-00103775 members vFVXy-ZG-GM-00452-00103776-00104039 and one of the young people is talking vFVXy-ZG-GM-00453-00104040-00104254 this particular conversation took place vFVXy-ZG-GM-00454-00104255-00104430 during a series we hosted vFVXy-ZG-GM-00455-00104431-00104647 called together at the table where vFVXy-ZG-GM-00456-00104648-00104815 community members could drop in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00457-00104816-00104975 throughout the day to engage in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00458-00104976-00105215 conversation with fellow patrons or vFVXy-ZG-GM-00459-00105216-00105263 staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00460-00105264-00105607 around a series of prompts what does vFVXy-ZG-GM-00461-00105608-00105934 trust look like in practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00462-00105935-00106175 it's documents that are edited in real vFVXy-ZG-GM-00463-00106176-00106263 time vFVXy-ZG-GM-00464-00106264-00106558 it's consensus building it's admitting vFVXy-ZG-GM-00465-00106559-00106599 owning vFVXy-ZG-GM-00466-00106600-00106878 up to and improving upon mistakes it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00467-00106879-00107102 sometimes means going against or bending vFVXy-ZG-GM-00468-00107103-00107219 policy to meet vFVXy-ZG-GM-00469-00107220-00107551 circumstances that are our reality today vFVXy-ZG-GM-00470-00107552-00107790 it's checking on and reckoning with our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00471-00107791-00108119 personal biases it means standing up to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00472-00108120-00108254 tone policing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00473-00108255-00108478 on behalf of those who have far too much vFVXy-ZG-GM-00474-00108479-00108615 to lose vFVXy-ZG-GM-00475-00108616-00108886 it's holding space for pain it's vFVXy-ZG-GM-00476-00108888-00109039 boosting the words of colleagues who vFVXy-ZG-GM-00477-00109040-00109254 don't get to sit at that table the same vFVXy-ZG-GM-00478-00109255-00109486 way as you it's making sure that vFVXy-ZG-GM-00479-00109488-00109631 meetings operate vFVXy-ZG-GM-00480-00109632-00110078 on a knowledge goes story stay modality vFVXy-ZG-GM-00481-00110079-00110447 a note about trainings we embarked on a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00482-00110448-00110566 series of trainings vFVXy-ZG-GM-00483-00110567-00110847 and it should be understood before those vFVXy-ZG-GM-00484-00110848-00110958 trainings begin vFVXy-ZG-GM-00485-00110959-00111319 that they should be budgeted for and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00486-00111320-00111543 compensated accordingly not only for the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00487-00111544-00111623 trainer vFVXy-ZG-GM-00488-00111624-00111919 but also anyone attending the training vFVXy-ZG-GM-00489-00111920-00112102 we should keep in mind that gathering vFVXy-ZG-GM-00490-00112103-00112278 and sustaining momentum for such an vFVXy-ZG-GM-00491-00112279-00112510 enterprise also demands vFVXy-ZG-GM-00492-00112511-00112823 unique emotional labor especially for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00493-00112824-00112951 those of black people vFVXy-ZG-GM-00494-00112952-00113175 indigenous people and persons of color vFVXy-ZG-GM-00495-00113176-00113647 at predominantly white institutions vFVXy-ZG-GM-00496-00113648-00113966 so doing the work this image vFVXy-ZG-GM-00497-00113967-00114166 shows a woman looking at a display of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00498-00114167-00114399 books while a male staff member stands vFVXy-ZG-GM-00499-00114400-00114534 next to her vFVXy-ZG-GM-00500-00114535-00114775 this was part of a public event in which vFVXy-ZG-GM-00501-00114776-00114983 we shared resources and select items vFVXy-ZG-GM-00502-00114983-00115127 from our collection vFVXy-ZG-GM-00503-00115128-00115471 on indigenous land treaties through the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00504-00115472-00115671 process of facilitating this event we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00505-00115672-00115878 realized there is just so much for us to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00506-00115879-00115975 continue learning vFVXy-ZG-GM-00507-00115976-00116327 especially with regards to indigeneity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00508-00116328-00116575 similarly after a few fitful starts and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00509-00116576-00116647 challenges vFVXy-ZG-GM-00510-00116648-00116902 the committee began staff training i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00511-00116903-00117071 want to start by acknowledging vFVXy-ZG-GM-00512-00117072-00117423 that we made mistakes rather than start vFVXy-ZG-GM-00513-00117424-00117631 with a committee charge we actually vFVXy-ZG-GM-00514-00117632-00117807 jumped in to professional development vFVXy-ZG-GM-00515-00117808-00117943 opportunities vFVXy-ZG-GM-00516-00117944-00118190 we had this desire to create a shared vFVXy-ZG-GM-00517-00118191-00118383 vocabulary around what we meant vFVXy-ZG-GM-00518-00118383-00118639 institutionally about equity and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00519-00118640-00118758 inclusion vFVXy-ZG-GM-00520-00118759-00119086 and this shared vocabulary couldn't vFVXy-ZG-GM-00521-00119088-00119134 exist vFVXy-ZG-GM-00522-00119135-00119383 unless we were beginning to read share vFVXy-ZG-GM-00523-00119383-00119478 and learn vFVXy-ZG-GM-00524-00119479-00119966 in union vFVXy-ZG-GM-00525-00119967-00120286 parts and labor this vFVXy-ZG-GM-00526-00120288-00120607 is a rather unflattering but important vFVXy-ZG-GM-00527-00120608-00120958 image of pipelines that were gathered vFVXy-ZG-GM-00528-00120959-00121223 on a neighborhood block it was part of a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00529-00121224-00121439 much needed stormwater drain vFVXy-ZG-GM-00530-00121440-00121766 project this project likely required a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00531-00121767-00121878 lot of planning vFVXy-ZG-GM-00532-00121879-00122239 digging maintenance parceling out of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00533-00122240-00122447 different tasks for different groups of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00534-00122448-00122663 people and contractors vFVXy-ZG-GM-00535-00122664-00122902 i use this image in this example of the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00536-00122903-00123071 many parts and labor that aren't vFVXy-ZG-GM-00537-00123072-00123286 acknowledged but definitely part of what vFVXy-ZG-GM-00538-00123288-00123599 we have done at our institution vFVXy-ZG-GM-00539-00123600-00123958 what does that mean work for us vFVXy-ZG-GM-00540-00123959-00124239 we actually engaged with a consultant vFVXy-ZG-GM-00541-00124240-00124286 who vFVXy-ZG-GM-00542-00124288-00124463 had extensive experience in our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00543-00124464-00124631 community on vFVXy-ZG-GM-00544-00124632-00124886 developing equity diversity inclusion vFVXy-ZG-GM-00545-00124888-00125134 initiatives at the high schools vFVXy-ZG-GM-00546-00125135-00125334 we also understand though that something vFVXy-ZG-GM-00547-00125335-00125495 like this is not always within vFVXy-ZG-GM-00548-00125496-00125647 everyone's budget vFVXy-ZG-GM-00549-00125648-00125999 so if you do decide to commit vFVXy-ZG-GM-00550-00126000-00126310 to equity diversity inclusion vFVXy-ZG-GM-00551-00126311-00126647 training and support make a commitment vFVXy-ZG-GM-00552-00126648-00126758 early on vFVXy-ZG-GM-00553-00126759-00127063 that there is institutional buy-in and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00554-00127064-00127334 when there is an institutional buy-in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00555-00127335-00127607 try to think about ways that we can vFVXy-ZG-GM-00556-00127608-00127839 extend beyond the institution to start vFVXy-ZG-GM-00557-00127840-00127934 framing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00558-00127935-00128295 and recognizing the importance of having vFVXy-ZG-GM-00559-00128296-00128478 such vFVXy-ZG-GM-00560-00128479-00128727 work being done at our institution vFVXy-ZG-GM-00561-00128728-00128854 period vFVXy-ZG-GM-00562-00128855-00129039 with the consultant's assistance we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00563-00129040-00129214 developed a set of community agreements vFVXy-ZG-GM-00564-00129215-00129358 for discussions vFVXy-ZG-GM-00565-00129359-00129590 such agreements were used for first vFVXy-ZG-GM-00566-00129591-00129686 committee meetings vFVXy-ZG-GM-00567-00129688-00130014 as well as for staff trainings committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00568-00130015-00130078 meetings vFVXy-ZG-GM-00569-00130079-00130431 happened on a monthly basis at the time vFVXy-ZG-GM-00570-00130432-00130607 we continue to incorporate ways to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00571-00130608-00130814 gather review and evaluate staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00572-00130815-00130910 feedback vFVXy-ZG-GM-00573-00130911-00131175 aside from periodic mandatory staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00574-00131176-00131271 trainings vFVXy-ZG-GM-00575-00131272-00131487 we continue to provide bi-monthly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00576-00131488-00131663 opportunities to discuss vFVXy-ZG-GM-00577-00131664-00131895 different terms such as anti-racism or vFVXy-ZG-GM-00578-00131896-00132007 ableism vFVXy-ZG-GM-00579-00132008-00132239 we use articles videos podcasts and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00580-00132240-00132359 other resources vFVXy-ZG-GM-00581-00132360-00132607 to help us get a grounding for the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00582-00132608-00132743 activities that take place vFVXy-ZG-GM-00583-00132744-00133063 within the space of our conversation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00584-00133064-00133335 these discussions evolved from having a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00585-00133336-00133447 consultant to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00586-00133448-00133647 designated staff from the edi committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00587-00133648-00133823 facilitate instead vFVXy-ZG-GM-00588-00133824-00134031 and more recently we have expanded upon vFVXy-ZG-GM-00589-00134032-00134231 that to try to incorporate others within vFVXy-ZG-GM-00590-00134232-00134375 our organization who are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00591-00134376-00134590 just as eager and excited to get vFVXy-ZG-GM-00592-00134591-00134775 involved with our equity work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00593-00134776-00134975 but are not necessarily on the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00594-00134976-00135095 itself vFVXy-ZG-GM-00595-00135096-00135359 committee members were drawn from a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00596-00135360-00135487 variety of departments vFVXy-ZG-GM-00597-00135488-00135887 across the library and oftentimes vFVXy-ZG-GM-00598-00135888-00136159 they were selected to join because of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00599-00136160-00136311 their unique positionality vFVXy-ZG-GM-00600-00136312-00136543 whether as a part-time worker or vFVXy-ZG-GM-00601-00136544-00136735 depending on the audience or the nature vFVXy-ZG-GM-00602-00136736-00136847 of their work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00603-00136848-00137063 involved perhaps collection development vFVXy-ZG-GM-00604-00137064-00137263 so those are some of the ways in which vFVXy-ZG-GM-00605-00137264-00137478 different people join the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00606-00137479-00137790 and of course in this time of covid we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00607-00137791-00137847 realize vFVXy-ZG-GM-00608-00137848-00138014 that is even more important to continue vFVXy-ZG-GM-00609-00138015-00138183 engaging in ongoing discussions vFVXy-ZG-GM-00610-00138184-00138335 regarding equity inclusion and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00611-00138336-00138463 accessibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00612-00138464-00138711 we attempt to do this via paid scheduled vFVXy-ZG-GM-00613-00138712-00139078 small group discussions using zoom vFVXy-ZG-GM-00614-00139079-00139399 so a few lessons vFVXy-ZG-GM-00615-00139400-00139711 this particular image showcases a steel vFVXy-ZG-GM-00616-00139712-00140087 swan sculpture it sits in a shallow pond vFVXy-ZG-GM-00617-00140088-00140319 of water in one of the library's central vFVXy-ZG-GM-00618-00140320-00140471 courtyards vFVXy-ZG-GM-00619-00140472-00140678 light often glimmers off of the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00620-00140679-00140799 sculpture vFVXy-ZG-GM-00621-00140800-00141087 glass walls surround it it acts as a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00622-00141088-00141319 locus of contemplation for both patrons vFVXy-ZG-GM-00623-00141320-00141447 and staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00624-00141448-00141631 and just to give you a little bit of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00625-00141632-00141839 insight into my position vFVXy-ZG-GM-00626-00141840-00142087 i have not been working actively at my vFVXy-ZG-GM-00627-00142088-00142319 library's building for nearly six months vFVXy-ZG-GM-00628-00142320-00142566 so even looking at this image i feel a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00629-00142567-00142647 tingle that vFVXy-ZG-GM-00630-00142648-00142975 oh there it is there is this space vFVXy-ZG-GM-00631-00142976-00143166 that we have at the library where people vFVXy-ZG-GM-00632-00143167-00143319 can come together vFVXy-ZG-GM-00633-00143320-00143487 oftentimes we will see patrons vFVXy-ZG-GM-00634-00143488-00143790 congregating along the side vFVXy-ZG-GM-00635-00143791-00144063 of this courtyard behind the glass vFVXy-ZG-GM-00636-00144064-00144119 playing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00637-00144120-00144478 games of chess reading or just waiting vFVXy-ZG-GM-00638-00144479-00144726 and it's such a lovely experience and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00639-00144727-00144911 unfortunately we're not able to do the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00640-00144912-00145119 same right now vFVXy-ZG-GM-00641-00145120-00145295 one of the things we've learned along vFVXy-ZG-GM-00642-00145296-00145519 the way though is that any staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00643-00145520-00145614 training vFVXy-ZG-GM-00644-00145615-00145887 needs to involve content warnings and a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00645-00145888-00146087 more nuanced approach to how we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00646-00146088-00146239 standardize them vFVXy-ZG-GM-00647-00146240-00146519 for some people oppression is a daily vFVXy-ZG-GM-00648-00146520-00146759 recurring fact of their life vFVXy-ZG-GM-00649-00146760-00147039 some activities that are asked of people vFVXy-ZG-GM-00650-00147040-00147083 during vFVXy-ZG-GM-00651-00147084-00147447 trainings may be harmful because they vFVXy-ZG-GM-00652-00147448-00147623 reveal identities that someone doesn't vFVXy-ZG-GM-00653-00147624-00147814 feel comfortable sharing at work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00654-00147815-00148039 and it puts them on display and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00655-00148040-00148375 therefore unsafe and really traumatized vFVXy-ZG-GM-00656-00148376-00148575 when working with the consultant we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00657-00148576-00148751 recommend continuing to monitor what vFVXy-ZG-GM-00658-00148752-00148926 such training looks like vFVXy-ZG-GM-00659-00148927-00149183 and to continue incorporating valuable vFVXy-ZG-GM-00660-00149184-00149254 staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00661-00149255-00149487 feedback from previous training to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00662-00149488-00149711 ensure that the learning is prioritized vFVXy-ZG-GM-00663-00149712-00149751 for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00664-00149752-00150014 all staff not just those who happen to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00665-00150015-00150135 be white vFVXy-ZG-GM-00666-00150136-00150439 being purposeful about our training is vFVXy-ZG-GM-00667-00150440-00150759 key vFVXy-ZG-GM-00668-00150760-00151071 so in this image we see a young girl vFVXy-ZG-GM-00669-00151072-00151263 laying out a white t-shirt and preparing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00670-00151264-00151447 it for a tie dyeing workshop vFVXy-ZG-GM-00671-00151448-00151647 that took place in one of our courtyards vFVXy-ZG-GM-00672-00151648-00151775 adjacent to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00673-00151776-00152087 the library's youth services department vFVXy-ZG-GM-00674-00152088-00152383 sunlight streams in from the west and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00675-00152384-00152683 highlights her face while she vFVXy-ZG-GM-00676-00152684-00152823 concentrates vFVXy-ZG-GM-00677-00152824-00153199 in the summer of 2018 the edi committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00678-00153200-00153511 realized it needed to hit a reset button vFVXy-ZG-GM-00679-00153512-00153726 we found out that edi can mean a lot of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00680-00153727-00153878 different things for our staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00681-00153879-00154095 despite the developing of a shared vFVXy-ZG-GM-00682-00154096-00154239 vocabulary vFVXy-ZG-GM-00683-00154240-00154519 we also recognized how it affects the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00684-00154520-00154687 ways that we reach out to our community vFVXy-ZG-GM-00685-00154688-00154751 and work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00686-00154752-00155063 in synchronicity with them vFVXy-ZG-GM-00687-00155064-00155351 eda work in practice means reflecting vFVXy-ZG-GM-00688-00155352-00155526 upon our position of power vFVXy-ZG-GM-00689-00155527-00155775 as institutions and how that may impact vFVXy-ZG-GM-00690-00155776-00155935 accessibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00691-00155936-00156223 we determined that we needed to a cite vFVXy-ZG-GM-00692-00156224-00156383 our core beliefs vFVXy-ZG-GM-00693-00156384-00156695 b designate what exactly the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00694-00156696-00156895 would continue focusing upon vFVXy-ZG-GM-00695-00156896-00157135 and c determine what the structure roles vFVXy-ZG-GM-00696-00157136-00157271 and make up of the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00697-00157272-00157695 would be vFVXy-ZG-GM-00698-00157696-00157902 in this image we see a stack of gray vFVXy-ZG-GM-00699-00157903-00158047 metal canoes vFVXy-ZG-GM-00700-00158048-00158283 that are lying upside down in the bright vFVXy-ZG-GM-00701-00158284-00158447 sun vFVXy-ZG-GM-00702-00158448-00158726 in retrospect it might seem odd that a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00703-00158727-00158895 charged statement wasn't developed by vFVXy-ZG-GM-00704-00158896-00159071 the committee earlier vFVXy-ZG-GM-00705-00159072-00159278 but it was in the process of doing the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00706-00159279-00159471 work that we realized that there needed vFVXy-ZG-GM-00707-00159472-00159735 to be a return to what we stand for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00708-00159736-00159951 following both committee-wide and small vFVXy-ZG-GM-00709-00159952-00160111 group brainstorming vFVXy-ZG-GM-00710-00160112-00160431 we decided to acknowledge the existence vFVXy-ZG-GM-00711-00160432-00160790 of structural institutional vFVXy-ZG-GM-00712-00160791-00161063 and individual interpersonal racism and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00713-00161064-00161119 bias vFVXy-ZG-GM-00714-00161120-00161439 specifically articulating it in a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00715-00161440-00161759 charge statement to identify and clearly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00716-00161760-00161863 state vFVXy-ZG-GM-00717-00161864-00162175 who such oppression affects vFVXy-ZG-GM-00718-00162176-00162423 to tie the work of collective liberation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00719-00162424-00162599 with that of the library's vision vFVXy-ZG-GM-00720-00162600-00162990 and mission to require library staff to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00721-00162991-00163214 take personal responsibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00722-00163215-00163431 for increasing their awareness of and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00723-00163432-00163783 engaging in anti-racism education vFVXy-ZG-GM-00724-00163784-00163975 and of course to practice a calling vFVXy-ZG-GM-00725-00163976-00164087 culture vFVXy-ZG-GM-00726-00164088-00164375 we say call in and we mean that of all vFVXy-ZG-GM-00727-00164376-00164526 staff as peers vFVXy-ZG-GM-00728-00164527-00164687 because we need to understand that we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00729-00164688-00164990 can't do this work unless we are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00730-00164991-00165326 similarly approaching these issues with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00731-00165327-00166087 accountability and loving kindness vFVXy-ZG-GM-00732-00166088-00166295 in this image we see that that same tie vFVXy-ZG-GM-00733-00166296-00166463 dying experiment from vFVXy-ZG-GM-00734-00166464-00166735 two slides ago is at the drying stage vFVXy-ZG-GM-00735-00166736-00166919 there's colorful t-shirts that are ready vFVXy-ZG-GM-00736-00166920-00167031 to be hung dry vFVXy-ZG-GM-00737-00167032-00167343 along a string hung to one side of the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00738-00167344-00167454 courtyard vFVXy-ZG-GM-00739-00167455-00167654 several young people are admiring their vFVXy-ZG-GM-00740-00167655-00167887 work a staff member helps them hang vFVXy-ZG-GM-00741-00167888-00168038 their teeth vFVXy-ZG-GM-00742-00168039-00168375 and similarly i see a parallel between vFVXy-ZG-GM-00743-00168376-00168447 the ways vFVXy-ZG-GM-00744-00168448-00168711 that this group of young people have vFVXy-ZG-GM-00745-00168712-00168926 made these beautiful t-shirts vFVXy-ZG-GM-00746-00168927-00169143 and the ways that staff are being asked vFVXy-ZG-GM-00747-00169144-00169335 to really reflect on things that they're vFVXy-ZG-GM-00748-00169336-00169487 doing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00749-00169488-00169711 everyone is doing beautiful hard work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00750-00169712-00169935 day in and day out at the library vFVXy-ZG-GM-00751-00169936-00170135 and we want to honor where they're at vFVXy-ZG-GM-00752-00170136-00170302 but we also want to honor vFVXy-ZG-GM-00753-00170303-00170526 how staff can step back and take stock vFVXy-ZG-GM-00754-00170527-00170695 of their words vFVXy-ZG-GM-00755-00170696-00170895 we wrote the committee charge and its vFVXy-ZG-GM-00756-00170896-00171102 core beliefs to be actionable by vFVXy-ZG-GM-00757-00171103-00171207 defining vFVXy-ZG-GM-00758-00171208-00171535 some primary focus areas vFVXy-ZG-GM-00759-00171536-00171702 there will be parts of the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-00760-00171703-00171935 dedicated to inclusion vFVXy-ZG-GM-00761-00171936-00172159 how to create a sense of welcoming and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00762-00172160-00172326 belonging for staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00763-00172327-00172654 and more broadly for a community vFVXy-ZG-GM-00764-00172655-00172902 training people on the committee who vFVXy-ZG-GM-00765-00172903-00173151 could develop and facilitate ongoing edi vFVXy-ZG-GM-00766-00173152-00173351 resources and training for staff in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00767-00173352-00173511 addition to our learning and training vFVXy-ZG-GM-00768-00173512-00173687 manager vFVXy-ZG-GM-00769-00173688-00173966 consultation where committee members vFVXy-ZG-GM-00770-00173967-00174159 could play a role in how we assess our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00771-00174160-00174247 services vFVXy-ZG-GM-00772-00174248-00174414 and how we may assist with the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00773-00174415-00174678 development of library policy vFVXy-ZG-GM-00774-00174679-00174975 communication being transparent about vFVXy-ZG-GM-00775-00174976-00175102 what we learn vFVXy-ZG-GM-00776-00175103-00175263 and working with other libraries to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00777-00175264-00175438 create a community of practice in our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00778-00175439-00175487 region vFVXy-ZG-GM-00779-00175488-00175663 and throughout the profession with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00780-00175664-00175959 regards to edi vFVXy-ZG-GM-00781-00175960-00176207 both words and intentions are only a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00782-00176208-00176647 small piece of this work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00783-00176648-00176919 here we see a close-up of a person's vFVXy-ZG-GM-00784-00176920-00176990 hand vFVXy-ZG-GM-00785-00176991-00177231 poised and ready to draw on a page with vFVXy-ZG-GM-00786-00177232-00177414 markers and pens surrounding their vFVXy-ZG-GM-00787-00177415-00177599 workspace vFVXy-ZG-GM-00788-00177600-00177863 we're continuing to un convene ongoing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00789-00177864-00178063 conversations with staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-00790-00178064-00178263 we've been talking about accountability vFVXy-ZG-GM-00791-00178264-00178423 for what we say versus what we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00792-00178424-00178575 ultimately do vFVXy-ZG-GM-00793-00178576-00178847 we recognize our collective role in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00794-00178848-00178919 sustaining vFVXy-ZG-GM-00795-00178920-00179271 systems of oppression crosstalk is just vFVXy-ZG-GM-00796-00179272-00179359 one way vFVXy-ZG-GM-00797-00179360-00179607 we intend to bridge the gaps between us vFVXy-ZG-GM-00798-00179608-00179863 and our varied experiences vFVXy-ZG-GM-00799-00179864-00180111 we gather such crosstalk with anonymous vFVXy-ZG-GM-00800-00180112-00180302 feedback forms where staff can vFVXy-ZG-GM-00801-00180303-00180495 share their comments about ongoing work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00802-00180496-00180631 procedures vFVXy-ZG-GM-00803-00180632-00180847 meanwhile we're also in the process of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00804-00180848-00181007 seeking vFVXy-ZG-GM-00805-00181008-00181175 assistance from a consultant to guide vFVXy-ZG-GM-00806-00181176-00181390 future work on how to create vFVXy-ZG-GM-00807-00181391-00181663 systems of accountability particularly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00808-00181664-00181871 with regards to situations that involve vFVXy-ZG-GM-00809-00181872-00182151 discrimination or harassment vFVXy-ZG-GM-00810-00182152-00182366 staff feedback also guides decision vFVXy-ZG-GM-00811-00182367-00182583 making as we think about our work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00812-00182584-00182783 whether that's through inclusive vFVXy-ZG-GM-00813-00182784-00182919 collection development vFVXy-ZG-GM-00814-00182920-00183223 and advisory services broadening the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00815-00183224-00183447 so-called pipeline of talent vFVXy-ZG-GM-00816-00183448-00183638 rewriting job descriptions so they're vFVXy-ZG-GM-00817-00183639-00183887 less dependent on credentials vFVXy-ZG-GM-00818-00183888-00184102 selecting diverse authors and or vFVXy-ZG-GM-00819-00184103-00184254 speakers to invite for public vFVXy-ZG-GM-00820-00184255-00184366 programming vFVXy-ZG-GM-00821-00184367-00184575 and using universal design to make our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00822-00184576-00184775 spaces more accessible vFVXy-ZG-GM-00823-00184776-00185287 in addition to so many other initiatives vFVXy-ZG-GM-00824-00185288-00185511 this image here was taken during a civic vFVXy-ZG-GM-00825-00185512-00185590 lab vFVXy-ZG-GM-00826-00185591-00185814 which is a periodic pop-up exhibit and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00827-00185815-00185999 programming model in which we offer vFVXy-ZG-GM-00828-00186000-00186278 information thought-provoking activities vFVXy-ZG-GM-00829-00186279-00186511 that support dialogue and engagement vFVXy-ZG-GM-00830-00186512-00186775 on issues affecting our community for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00831-00186776-00186823 this vFVXy-ZG-GM-00832-00186824-00187038 particular pop-up we asked patrons to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00833-00187039-00187263 consider what activism looks like in the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00834-00187264-00187495 wake of protests at standing rock indian vFVXy-ZG-GM-00835-00187496-00187663 reservation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00836-00187664-00188007 during those protests it was um vFVXy-ZG-GM-00837-00188008-00188214 it was a process in which people were vFVXy-ZG-GM-00838-00188215-00188326 uprising against vFVXy-ZG-GM-00839-00188327-00188535 a pipeline that had been proposed to cut vFVXy-ZG-GM-00840-00188536-00188638 through land vFVXy-ZG-GM-00841-00188639-00189135 on the reservation with regards to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00842-00189136-00189343 civic lab and other public program vFVXy-ZG-GM-00843-00189344-00189463 models vFVXy-ZG-GM-00844-00189464-00189678 we can certainly look at and measure vFVXy-ZG-GM-00845-00189679-00189814 outcomes vFVXy-ZG-GM-00846-00189815-00190063 but when it comes to inclusion sure we vFVXy-ZG-GM-00847-00190064-00190126 can say vFVXy-ZG-GM-00848-00190127-00190350 it can be alkyne based but it's an vFVXy-ZG-GM-00849-00190351-00190535 ongoing practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00850-00190536-00190838 and it requires collaboration vFVXy-ZG-GM-00851-00190839-00191143 and consultation yes we can say we want vFVXy-ZG-GM-00852-00191144-00191431 a sense of belonging for staff and for vFVXy-ZG-GM-00853-00191432-00191614 community members when they come into vFVXy-ZG-GM-00854-00191615-00191759 the building but vFVXy-ZG-GM-00855-00191760-00191966 it's not enough to just stop at that vFVXy-ZG-GM-00856-00191967-00192143 because we have to constantly check back vFVXy-ZG-GM-00857-00192144-00192175 in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00858-00192176-00192366 and recognize that it's just it's a vFVXy-ZG-GM-00859-00192367-00192566 practice it's a process vFVXy-ZG-GM-00860-00192567-00192887 an eda work is certainly similarly not vFVXy-ZG-GM-00861-00192888-00193375 done alone or in isolation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00862-00193376-00193599 i'm going to pause here for a moment i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00863-00193600-00193711 would love to hear vFVXy-ZG-GM-00864-00193712-00194031 from you in the chat um what happens vFVXy-ZG-GM-00865-00194032-00194175 when you hear the word ally vFVXy-ZG-GM-00866-00194176-00194550 what you think about and um and to share vFVXy-ZG-GM-00867-00194551-00194975 your thoughts in the chat with us vFVXy-ZG-GM-00868-00194976-00195254 and mimosa i will read them as they are vFVXy-ZG-GM-00869-00195255-00195366 posted vFVXy-ZG-GM-00870-00195367-00195671 for you thank you so much vFVXy-ZG-GM-00871-00195672-00196278 you're welcome vFVXy-ZG-GM-00872-00196279-00196583 so some comments that have come in uh vFVXy-ZG-GM-00873-00196584-00196790 someone who stands by you and stands up vFVXy-ZG-GM-00874-00196791-00197014 for you when you need it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00875-00197015-00197247 someone who is quote doing the work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00876-00197248-00197423 unquote vFVXy-ZG-GM-00877-00197424-00197814 uh action continual commitment rather vFVXy-ZG-GM-00878-00197815-00197854 than vFVXy-ZG-GM-00879-00197855-00198295 an an identity vFVXy-ZG-GM-00880-00198296-00198599 uh allyship is a process not a static vFVXy-ZG-GM-00881-00198600-00198950 designation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00882-00198951-00199254 active support vFVXy-ZG-GM-00883-00199255-00199575 okay thank you so much for just uh vFVXy-ZG-GM-00884-00199576-00199726 indicating all those things vFVXy-ZG-GM-00885-00199727-00200023 um i know that the word ally has taken vFVXy-ZG-GM-00886-00200024-00200311 on a different case in 2020 vFVXy-ZG-GM-00887-00200312-00200599 so for the purposes of this conversation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00888-00200600-00200711 today vFVXy-ZG-GM-00889-00200712-00201119 i am going to be using the word ally vFVXy-ZG-GM-00890-00201120-00201438 as a verb what does allyship vFVXy-ZG-GM-00891-00201439-00201966 mean in practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00892-00201967-00202326 i'm referring in part to a 2017 vFVXy-ZG-GM-00893-00202327-00202566 article that was written by wendy ing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00894-00202567-00202854 cyrus marcus ware and alyssa greenberg vFVXy-ZG-GM-00895-00202855-00203047 in which they explore this concept in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00896-00203048-00203159 more depth vFVXy-ZG-GM-00897-00203160-00203366 their discussion focuses upon vFVXy-ZG-GM-00898-00203367-00203575 eyelineship in museums but i see the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00899-00203576-00203847 same concept operating in libraries vFVXy-ZG-GM-00900-00203848-00204102 namely how can we transform these spaces vFVXy-ZG-GM-00901-00204103-00204287 so that people from all backgrounds have vFVXy-ZG-GM-00902-00204288-00204687 agency and representation allyship vFVXy-ZG-GM-00903-00204688-00204966 centers the experiences of racialized vFVXy-ZG-GM-00904-00204967-00205142 and marginalized people in order to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00905-00205144-00205223 interrupt vFVXy-ZG-GM-00906-00205223-00205575 the status quo nurturing co-conspirators vFVXy-ZG-GM-00907-00205576-00205655 is key vFVXy-ZG-GM-00908-00205656-00205990 when it comes to allyship such nurturing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00909-00205991-00206223 takes place through yet another hotly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00910-00206223-00206342 contested term vFVXy-ZG-GM-00911-00206344-00206646 empathy but in order to cultivate vFVXy-ZG-GM-00912-00206648-00206758 strategies around vFVXy-ZG-GM-00913-00206759-00207006 allyship one must first understand what vFVXy-ZG-GM-00914-00207007-00207223 it means to effectively respond to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00915-00207223-00207358 experiences vFVXy-ZG-GM-00916-00207359-00207719 via an empathetic lens certainly there's vFVXy-ZG-GM-00917-00207719-00207814 the argument vFVXy-ZG-GM-00918-00207815-00208175 that well we are humans we should all be vFVXy-ZG-GM-00919-00208176-00208423 subject to and understand and benefit vFVXy-ZG-GM-00920-00208423-00208534 from the same vFVXy-ZG-GM-00921-00208535-00208790 rights and privileges and indeed that is vFVXy-ZG-GM-00922-00208791-00208903 true too vFVXy-ZG-GM-00923-00208904-00209134 but i see empathy as a unique practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00924-00209135-00209255 in that it vFVXy-ZG-GM-00925-00209256-00209558 encompasses contemplation and that vFVXy-ZG-GM-00926-00209559-00209798 is very necessary for becoming a more vFVXy-ZG-GM-00927-00209800-00210151 effective vFVXy-ZG-GM-00928-00210152-00210327 and co-conspirator you move on mimosa i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00929-00210328-00210487 want to read just a few of the other vFVXy-ZG-GM-00930-00210488-00210679 comments because several others came in vFVXy-ZG-GM-00931-00210680-00210879 which i think are important to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00932-00210880-00211303 write to get on the recording uh vFVXy-ZG-GM-00933-00211304-00211703 for one thing uh ally connotes someone vFVXy-ZG-GM-00934-00211704-00211951 continuously striving to stand with and vFVXy-ZG-GM-00935-00211952-00212039 support a group vFVXy-ZG-GM-00936-00212040-00212415 their work is never done someone always vFVXy-ZG-GM-00937-00212416-00212623 there to help and support vFVXy-ZG-GM-00938-00212623-00212910 active support someone who is not vFVXy-ZG-GM-00939-00212911-00213119 directly affected by vFVXy-ZG-GM-00940-00213119-00213406 oh affected but who steps up to support vFVXy-ZG-GM-00941-00213407-00213623 those who need assistance vFVXy-ZG-GM-00942-00213623-00213806 someone who examines their role in the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00943-00213807-00213998 system and works on self vFVXy-ZG-GM-00944-00214000-00214303 and group and then a final comment vFVXy-ZG-GM-00945-00214304-00214439 someone who listens vFVXy-ZG-GM-00946-00214440-00214639 effectively and believes others when vFVXy-ZG-GM-00947-00214640-00214815 they share their experiences so that vFVXy-ZG-GM-00948-00214816-00214910 they can vFVXy-ZG-GM-00949-00214911-00215167 provide adequate support they ask how vFVXy-ZG-GM-00950-00215167-00215342 they can help and don't tell or make vFVXy-ZG-GM-00951-00215344-00215639 assumptions about what is needed vFVXy-ZG-GM-00952-00215640-00215887 thank you those are all wonderful i vFVXy-ZG-GM-00953-00215888-00216087 especially love the last comment about vFVXy-ZG-GM-00954-00216088-00216198 listening vFVXy-ZG-GM-00955-00216200-00216631 and how to how to listen is a practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00956-00216632-00216855 and that is actually the last thing i'm vFVXy-ZG-GM-00957-00216856-00217039 going to say i shouldn't say last but vFVXy-ZG-GM-00958-00217040-00217215 next thing i'm going to say which is vFVXy-ZG-GM-00959-00217216-00217463 listening and self-reflection these vFVXy-ZG-GM-00960-00217464-00217694 practices can be improved upon vFVXy-ZG-GM-00961-00217696-00218087 over time at the library and especially vFVXy-ZG-GM-00962-00218088-00218287 while so many staff continue to work vFVXy-ZG-GM-00963-00218288-00218558 remotely or with hybrid work schedules vFVXy-ZG-GM-00964-00218559-00218806 where we come and see one another may be vFVXy-ZG-GM-00965-00218807-00218942 in passing vFVXy-ZG-GM-00966-00218944-00219151 we've seen a thriving practice of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00967-00219152-00219310 smaller reading groups vFVXy-ZG-GM-00968-00219311-00219606 that are within small departments or on vFVXy-ZG-GM-00969-00219607-00219694 teams vFVXy-ZG-GM-00970-00219696-00219887 where staff take it upon themselves to vFVXy-ZG-GM-00971-00219888-00220015 research resources vFVXy-ZG-GM-00972-00220016-00220246 and discuss their learning in community vFVXy-ZG-GM-00973-00220248-00220503 via shared documents and weekly calls vFVXy-ZG-GM-00974-00220504-00220863 an example is some staff members have vFVXy-ZG-GM-00975-00220864-00221134 taken chapters of a book called teaching vFVXy-ZG-GM-00976-00221135-00221255 for black lives vFVXy-ZG-GM-00977-00221256-00221558 and use that to have weekly vFVXy-ZG-GM-00978-00221559-00221831 conversations around particular topics vFVXy-ZG-GM-00979-00221832-00222151 related to the chapters and to reflect vFVXy-ZG-GM-00980-00222152-00222246 upon how vFVXy-ZG-GM-00981-00222248-00222455 the knowledge that is shared within vFVXy-ZG-GM-00982-00222456-00222646 those chapters as well as the vFVXy-ZG-GM-00983-00222648-00222806 conversations could influence vFVXy-ZG-GM-00984-00222807-00223175 their work at the library allergy ship vFVXy-ZG-GM-00985-00223176-00223398 also requires an ability to be at ease vFVXy-ZG-GM-00986-00223400-00223582 with or be willing to learn vFVXy-ZG-GM-00987-00223583-00223798 different pedagogical or facilitation vFVXy-ZG-GM-00988-00223800-00223958 strategies that strive to be vFVXy-ZG-GM-00989-00223959-00224134 anti-oppressive vFVXy-ZG-GM-00990-00224135-00224423 creating small nodes of practice is just vFVXy-ZG-GM-00991-00224423-00224551 one way to cultivate vFVXy-ZG-GM-00992-00224552-00224791 shared effort and responsibility vFVXy-ZG-GM-00993-00224792-00224927 accountability vFVXy-ZG-GM-00994-00224928-00225198 starts to spread across an organization vFVXy-ZG-GM-00995-00225200-00225439 the more we try to create these nodes of vFVXy-ZG-GM-00996-00225440-00225534 practice vFVXy-ZG-GM-00997-00225535-00225742 and it's further bolstered by our vFVXy-ZG-GM-00998-00225744-00225910 ongoing consideration vFVXy-ZG-GM-00999-00225911-00226215 of identities i'm going to leave this vFVXy-ZG-GM-01000-00226216-00226487 question for you to all think about vFVXy-ZG-GM-01001-00226488-00226782 what strategies do you use to secure the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01002-00226783-00227015 support of co-conspirators at your vFVXy-ZG-GM-01003-00227016-00227182 institution vFVXy-ZG-GM-01004-00227183-00227479 what does the so-called soft power allow vFVXy-ZG-GM-01005-00227480-00227519 for vFVXy-ZG-GM-01006-00227519-00227767 and what does it seem to just get vFVXy-ZG-GM-01007-00227767-00228263 frustrated by vFVXy-ZG-GM-01008-00228264-00228519 so this is one of my favorite images and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01009-00228519-00228671 when i look at this image i feel sad vFVXy-ZG-GM-01010-00228671-00228855 that i wasn't actually able to attend vFVXy-ZG-GM-01011-00228856-00229006 this event because i was vFVXy-ZG-GM-01012-00229007-00229334 attending a conference for ala vFVXy-ZG-GM-01013-00229335-00229703 um you know so what does all this equity vFVXy-ZG-GM-01014-00229704-00229855 work mean in the present moment vFVXy-ZG-GM-01015-00229856-00230167 that is characterized by multiple crises vFVXy-ZG-GM-01016-00230167-00230471 in this image it was taken at a vFVXy-ZG-GM-01017-00230471-00230719 capoeira event in which two dancers vFVXy-ZG-GM-01018-00230719-00230967 dressed in white pants and red t-shirts vFVXy-ZG-GM-01019-00230967-00231175 are engaged in synchronized jumps while vFVXy-ZG-GM-01020-00231176-00231382 patrons observe in background vFVXy-ZG-GM-01021-00231383-00231679 i love this photo because it reminds me vFVXy-ZG-GM-01022-00231680-00231927 of resilience and ingenuity vFVXy-ZG-GM-01023-00231928-00232198 capoeira was a dance created by enslaved vFVXy-ZG-GM-01024-00232200-00232446 persons in brazil that combined vFVXy-ZG-GM-01025-00232448-00232791 self-defense acrobatics dance vFVXy-ZG-GM-01026-00232792-00233142 joy music song sadness vFVXy-ZG-GM-01027-00233144-00233415 hope and it continues to thrive in this vFVXy-ZG-GM-01028-00233416-00233567 very day vFVXy-ZG-GM-01029-00233567-00233815 since mid-march of this year a lot of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01030-00233816-00233998 our institutions have had to close and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01031-00234000-00234167 or modify their services vFVXy-ZG-GM-01032-00234167-00234471 entirely in response to covet 19. the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01033-00234471-00234703 virus has disproportionately affected vFVXy-ZG-GM-01034-00234704-00234758 black vFVXy-ZG-GM-01035-00234759-00235031 indigenous and latinx persons leading vFVXy-ZG-GM-01036-00235032-00235255 wide scale food and housing insecurity vFVXy-ZG-GM-01037-00235256-00235467 as individuals are struck by illness and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01038-00235467-00235606 exacerbating vFVXy-ZG-GM-01039-00235607-00235815 the fundamental inequalities these vFVXy-ZG-GM-01040-00235816-00236055 individuals in these groups experienced vFVXy-ZG-GM-01041-00236056-00236342 prior to the pandemic ongoing climate vFVXy-ZG-GM-01042-00236344-00236415 change vFVXy-ZG-GM-01043-00236416-00236558 continues to lead to numerous vFVXy-ZG-GM-01044-00236559-00236863 catastrophes around the globe floods vFVXy-ZG-GM-01045-00236864-00237206 tornadoes wildfires vFVXy-ZG-GM-01046-00237207-00237542 meanwhile state-sanctioned killings vFVXy-ZG-GM-01047-00237544-00237767 of black people by various police forces vFVXy-ZG-GM-01048-00237767-00237951 across north america vFVXy-ZG-GM-01049-00237952-00238215 have led to a strong uprising and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01050-00238216-00238319 support vFVXy-ZG-GM-01051-00238319-00238623 for the black lives matter movement in vFVXy-ZG-GM-01052-00238623-00238846 such a context what practices of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01053-00238848-00239055 resilience or sustainability could vFVXy-ZG-GM-01054-00239056-00239103 emerge vFVXy-ZG-GM-01055-00239104-00239406 now vFVXy-ZG-GM-01056-00239407-00239655 earlier this year in response to the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01057-00239656-00239823 killings of george floyd vFVXy-ZG-GM-01058-00239823-00240158 ahmad albury brianna taylor tony mcdade vFVXy-ZG-GM-01059-00240159-00240182 and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01060-00240183-00240439 so many others by police forces many vFVXy-ZG-GM-01061-00240440-00240663 cultural institutions issued statements vFVXy-ZG-GM-01062-00240664-00240887 in support of social justice vFVXy-ZG-GM-01063-00240888-00241198 such statements they often rang hollow vFVXy-ZG-GM-01064-00241200-00241415 to a lot of bypoc people who happen to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01065-00241416-00241582 work in these spaces vFVXy-ZG-GM-01066-00241583-00241791 those same people continue to endure vFVXy-ZG-GM-01067-00241792-00241934 rampant erasure vFVXy-ZG-GM-01068-00241935-00242246 marginalization low pay and other forms vFVXy-ZG-GM-01069-00242248-00242510 of oppression based on their identities vFVXy-ZG-GM-01070-00242511-00242775 in response some of those bypass staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-01071-00242776-00242846 have released vFVXy-ZG-GM-01072-00242848-00243127 open letters expressing the mistreatment vFVXy-ZG-GM-01073-00243128-00243271 they've experienced vFVXy-ZG-GM-01074-00243271-00243527 using different social media platforms vFVXy-ZG-GM-01075-00243528-00243710 sometimes citing themselves sometimes vFVXy-ZG-GM-01076-00243711-00243894 choosing to remain anonymous vFVXy-ZG-GM-01077-00243896-00244134 heroically many mutual aid funds have vFVXy-ZG-GM-01078-00244135-00244263 been created by staff vFVXy-ZG-GM-01079-00244264-00244534 in the face of layoffs and have vFVXy-ZG-GM-01080-00244535-00244767 prioritized paying funds to black and or vFVXy-ZG-GM-01081-00244767-00244998 indigenous people vFVXy-ZG-GM-01082-00245000-00245310 the museum's a site of social action or vFVXy-ZG-GM-01083-00245311-00245479 mass action collective vFVXy-ZG-GM-01084-00245480-00245663 wrote a response to these statements vFVXy-ZG-GM-01085-00245664-00245830 with a corrective vFVXy-ZG-GM-01086-00245831-00246071 they will be offering tools and support vFVXy-ZG-GM-01087-00246071-00246206 for institutions vFVXy-ZG-GM-01088-00246207-00246482 still reckoning with the oppressive vFVXy-ZG-GM-01089-00246483-00246615 spaces vFVXy-ZG-GM-01090-00246616-00246823 oppressive spaces and practices that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01091-00246823-00246991 they continue to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01092-00246992-00247303 knowingly or unknowingly endorse what vFVXy-ZG-GM-01093-00247304-00247455 mass action is proposing is an vFVXy-ZG-GM-01094-00247456-00247623 accountability matrix vFVXy-ZG-GM-01095-00247623-00247927 and they write this work is not about vFVXy-ZG-GM-01096-00247928-00247982 calling vFVXy-ZG-GM-01097-00247983-00248175 anyone out for the sake of it or public vFVXy-ZG-GM-01098-00248176-00248455 shaming we consider each statement or vFVXy-ZG-GM-01099-00248456-00248646 lack of statement issued by a museum on vFVXy-ZG-GM-01100-00248648-00248846 the topic of racial justice as a public vFVXy-ZG-GM-01101-00248848-00248919 record vFVXy-ZG-GM-01102-00248919-00249103 and as such is an invitation for the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01103-00249104-00249287 public to engage in further dialogue on vFVXy-ZG-GM-01104-00249288-00249334 this vFVXy-ZG-GM-01105-00249335-00249671 topic vFVXy-ZG-GM-01106-00249671-00250142 so mistakes were made mistakes are made vFVXy-ZG-GM-01107-00250144-00250406 how do we hold ourselves and our vFVXy-ZG-GM-01108-00250407-00250623 institutions accountable vFVXy-ZG-GM-01109-00250623-00251215 without burning out vFVXy-ZG-GM-01110-00251216-00251510 fostering a network of co-conspirators vFVXy-ZG-GM-01111-00251511-00251639 is key vFVXy-ZG-GM-01112-00251640-00251879 relying upon the concept of resilience vFVXy-ZG-GM-01113-00251880-00251942 alone vFVXy-ZG-GM-01114-00251944-00252215 won't help it's through the nurturing of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01115-00252216-00252398 our colleagues in the struggle against vFVXy-ZG-GM-01116-00252400-00252582 oppression that we in turn strengthen vFVXy-ZG-GM-01117-00252583-00252751 our resolve while striving towards vFVXy-ZG-GM-01118-00252752-00252903 transformation vFVXy-ZG-GM-01119-00252904-00253182 here i cite a quote from dr portia moore vFVXy-ZG-GM-01120-00253183-00253446 who wrote for the inclusion blog vFVXy-ZG-GM-01121-00253448-00253679 she said we cartographers for racial vFVXy-ZG-GM-01122-00253680-00253823 equity inclusion vFVXy-ZG-GM-01123-00253823-00254055 inclusion in museums have been map vFVXy-ZG-GM-01124-00254056-00254255 making for quite some time vFVXy-ZG-GM-01125-00254256-00254558 i love the work that i do and yet i am vFVXy-ZG-GM-01126-00254559-00254639 tired of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01127-00254640-00254991 offering up my maps dr moore goes on to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01128-00254992-00255039 say vFVXy-ZG-GM-01129-00255040-00255287 that indeed it's at our institutions vFVXy-ZG-GM-01130-00255288-00255430 that will save us vFVXy-ZG-GM-01131-00255431-00255671 we will save ourselves and while i vFVXy-ZG-GM-01132-00255671-00255863 continue to speak on this topic vFVXy-ZG-GM-01133-00255864-00256046 on behalf of my institution i want to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01134-00256048-00256191 emphasize this vFVXy-ZG-GM-01135-00256192-00256510 in order to bring any equity roadmap to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01136-00256511-00256591 life vFVXy-ZG-GM-01137-00256592-00256863 we need to garner support and understand vFVXy-ZG-GM-01138-00256864-00256991 from many different parts of our vFVXy-ZG-GM-01139-00256992-00257191 profession and beyond vFVXy-ZG-GM-01140-00257192-00257406 the truth is institutions will cater to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01141-00257407-00257575 a lot of different stakeholders vFVXy-ZG-GM-01142-00257576-00257767 and in the process they will forget the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01143-00257767-00257958 healing that comes from building vFVXy-ZG-GM-01144-00257959-00258127 charting and navigating vFVXy-ZG-GM-01145-00258128-00258494 and checking back a road map we vFVXy-ZG-GM-01146-00258496-00258967 will have to remind them vFVXy-ZG-GM-01147-00258967-00259191 so i wanted to pause here for some vFVXy-ZG-GM-01148-00259192-00259279 questions vFVXy-ZG-GM-01149-00259280-00259446 um and to give you some questions to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01150-00259448-00259606 consider as well vFVXy-ZG-GM-01151-00259607-00259871 around shared values and principles so vFVXy-ZG-GM-01152-00259871-00260030 i'm going to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01153-00260031-00260367 uh briefly and then vFVXy-ZG-GM-01154-00260367-00260519 we'll take some questions and then i vFVXy-ZG-GM-01155-00260519-00260758 wanted to read one last quote before we vFVXy-ZG-GM-01156-00260759-00261894 ended vFVXy-ZG-GM-01157-00261896-00262103 so you can go ahead and place any vFVXy-ZG-GM-01158-00262104-00262295 questions you have in the chat vFVXy-ZG-GM-01159-00262296-00262487 please use an asterisk if you identify vFVXy-ZG-GM-01160-00262488-00262639 with bypoc vFVXy-ZG-GM-01161-00262640-00262991 and mimosa i'm actually going to go vFVXy-ZG-GM-01162-00262992-00263199 capture those four questions or five vFVXy-ZG-GM-01163-00263200-00263367 questions you had and see if i can place vFVXy-ZG-GM-01164-00263368-00263599 them in the chat from your slides vFVXy-ZG-GM-01165-00263600-00263815 absolutely well individuals are thinking vFVXy-ZG-GM-01166-00263816-00265871 of their questions to ask you vFVXy-ZG-GM-01167-00265872-00266071 and i'm placing them in the chat now vFVXy-ZG-GM-01168-00266072-00266279 this is just from the last slide vFVXy-ZG-GM-01169-00266280-00266591 there were looks like three questions vFVXy-ZG-GM-01170-00266592-00266782 so that might get you thinking and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01171-00266783-00267015 questions or comments or vFVXy-ZG-GM-01172-00267016-00267206 additional questions you might have for vFVXy-ZG-GM-01174-00270464-00270663 these are lovely questions thank you vFVXy-ZG-GM-01175-00270664-00270791 folks vFVXy-ZG-GM-01176-00270792-00271855 i will come back one moment vFVXy-ZG-GM-01177-00271856-00272047 and i'm happy to read them out loud if vFVXy-ZG-GM-01178-00272048-00272287 you'd like and then you can address them vFVXy-ZG-GM-01179-00272288-00272471 yes that would be great thank you so vFVXy-ZG-GM-01180-00272472-00272687 much i'm just waiting to see if a few vFVXy-ZG-GM-01181-00272688-00272767 more come in vFVXy-ZG-GM-01182-00272768-00273751 because we have i think four so far vFVXy-ZG-GM-01183-00273752-00273958 okay so the first one i'm just gonna go vFVXy-ZG-GM-01184-00273959-00274055 in order here vFVXy-ZG-GM-01185-00274056-00274351 uh the first one how do you balance vFVXy-ZG-GM-01186-00274352-00274447 getting vFVXy-ZG-GM-01187-00274448-00274767 quote institutional buy-in and quote vFVXy-ZG-GM-01188-00274768-00274991 with pushing back against institutional vFVXy-ZG-GM-01189-00274992-00275071 inaction vFVXy-ZG-GM-01190-00275072-00275375 or slow action vFVXy-ZG-GM-01191-00275376-00275727 great question when i think about vFVXy-ZG-GM-01192-00275728-00276039 institutional buy-in i think about vFVXy-ZG-GM-01193-00276040-00276343 having administrators on board willing vFVXy-ZG-GM-01194-00276344-00276415 to provide vFVXy-ZG-GM-01195-00276416-00276687 funding as well as a library board that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01196-00276688-00276727 is vFVXy-ZG-GM-01197-00276728-00276967 working in sync with your administrator vFVXy-ZG-GM-01198-00276968-00277191 but of course this is not always the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01199-00277192-00277279 case everywhere vFVXy-ZG-GM-01200-00277280-00277687 so one of the things that i recommend is vFVXy-ZG-GM-01201-00277688-00277934 radiating within your department if vFVXy-ZG-GM-01202-00277935-00278023 that's possible vFVXy-ZG-GM-01203-00278024-00278343 or your team and reckoning that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01204-00278344-00278679 your team is going to be the first place vFVXy-ZG-GM-01205-00278680-00278758 where you could vFVXy-ZG-GM-01206-00278759-00279103 effectively start to address and perhaps vFVXy-ZG-GM-01207-00279104-00279263 make some changes vFVXy-ZG-GM-01208-00279264-00279615 um give time and specifically paid time vFVXy-ZG-GM-01209-00279616-00279919 for um developing buy-in another vFVXy-ZG-GM-01210-00279920-00280119 um strategy that i would recommend is vFVXy-ZG-GM-01211-00280120-00280367 reaching out to other community partners vFVXy-ZG-GM-01212-00280368-00280575 and seeing where they may be at with vFVXy-ZG-GM-01213-00280576-00280743 regards to their equity work vFVXy-ZG-GM-01214-00280744-00281006 and trying to see how you could either vFVXy-ZG-GM-01215-00281007-00281110 listen to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01216-00281111-00281415 learn from or potentially collaborate vFVXy-ZG-GM-01217-00281416-00281855 when it comes to that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01218-00281856-00282167 wonderful um so here's another question vFVXy-ZG-GM-01219-00282168-00282382 how do you do all the edi work that is vFVXy-ZG-GM-01220-00282383-00282582 needed without putting all the work on vFVXy-ZG-GM-01221-00282583-00282999 employees from marginalized groups vFVXy-ZG-GM-01222-00283000-00283255 that is a good question as well and um vFVXy-ZG-GM-01223-00283256-00283358 one that i vFVXy-ZG-GM-01224-00283359-00283551 struggle with at times because i do vFVXy-ZG-GM-01225-00283552-00283695 think that there vFVXy-ZG-GM-01226-00283696-00284030 will always be a level of performativity vFVXy-ZG-GM-01227-00284031-00284295 of our identities when we are working in vFVXy-ZG-GM-01228-00284296-00284551 predominantly white institutions vFVXy-ZG-GM-01229-00284552-00284791 uh i think it is consistently checking vFVXy-ZG-GM-01230-00284792-00284951 back and reminding vFVXy-ZG-GM-01231-00284952-00285182 people with privileges but specifically vFVXy-ZG-GM-01232-00285183-00285319 white people vFVXy-ZG-GM-01233-00285320-00285630 that they need to learn how to decenter vFVXy-ZG-GM-01234-00285631-00285727 whiteness vFVXy-ZG-GM-01235-00285728-00286047 by also doing the work vFVXy-ZG-GM-01236-00286048-00286327 and giving space to those from vFVXy-ZG-GM-01237-00286328-00286479 marginalized groups to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01238-00286480-00286782 pause and move back to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01239-00286783-00286958 be in positions where they can be in vFVXy-ZG-GM-01240-00286959-00287119 decision making authority but at the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01241-00287120-00287239 same time vFVXy-ZG-GM-01242-00287240-00287567 note that in order for this work to be vFVXy-ZG-GM-01243-00287568-00287647 successful vFVXy-ZG-GM-01244-00287648-00287975 they have to also undertake and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01245-00287976-00288303 reason and think deeply about their role vFVXy-ZG-GM-01246-00288304-00288647 in relation to developing policies or vFVXy-ZG-GM-01247-00288648-00288879 practices that are equitable inclusive vFVXy-ZG-GM-01248-00288880-00289199 and accessible vFVXy-ZG-GM-01249-00289200-00289519 thank you uh here's another one vFVXy-ZG-GM-01250-00289520-00289799 are there or can there be statements not vFVXy-ZG-GM-01251-00289800-00289999 unlike land acknowledgement statements vFVXy-ZG-GM-01252-00290000-00290215 that address institutional racism vFVXy-ZG-GM-01253-00290216-00290382 systemic racism vFVXy-ZG-GM-01254-00290383-00290567 without taking away from land vFVXy-ZG-GM-01255-00290568-00291047 acknowledgements vFVXy-ZG-GM-01256-00291048-00291439 that's a very important point i vFVXy-ZG-GM-01257-00291440-00291854 i don't quite have a full response to it vFVXy-ZG-GM-01258-00291855-00292023 because i also struggle with that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01259-00292024-00292127 question vFVXy-ZG-GM-01260-00292128-00292503 um and wonder how to incorporate vFVXy-ZG-GM-01261-00292504-00292743 a land acknowledgement and the forced vFVXy-ZG-GM-01262-00292744-00293006 removal of indigenous persons without vFVXy-ZG-GM-01263-00293007-00293327 um also taking away from the oppression vFVXy-ZG-GM-01264-00293328-00293430 and marginalization vFVXy-ZG-GM-01265-00293431-00293687 that people obviously feel because of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01266-00293688-00293871 their various identities vFVXy-ZG-GM-01267-00293872-00294110 for example if they're queer or if they vFVXy-ZG-GM-01268-00294111-00294230 are somebody who vFVXy-ZG-GM-01269-00294231-00294454 is differently abled or has an vFVXy-ZG-GM-01270-00294455-00294558 appearance that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01271-00294559-00294863 is not considered by dominant society be vFVXy-ZG-GM-01272-00294864-00295215 normative vFVXy-ZG-GM-01273-00295216-00295482 i think that's one we can further vFVXy-ZG-GM-01274-00295483-00295623 explore vFVXy-ZG-GM-01275-00295624-00295847 uh let me go back there's a whole bunch vFVXy-ZG-GM-01276-00295848-00296039 i think i record at least six more here vFVXy-ZG-GM-01277-00296040-00296134 so i'm just going to go vFVXy-ZG-GM-01278-00296135-00296358 now back to the list here uh next vFVXy-ZG-GM-01279-00296359-00296454 question vFVXy-ZG-GM-01280-00296455-00296695 what advice do you have for creating an vFVXy-ZG-GM-01281-00296696-00296887 active and thriving edi vFVXy-ZG-GM-01282-00296888-00297343 in an area where one may not be welcome vFVXy-ZG-GM-01283-00297344-00297599 so to clarify an area meaning like the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01284-00297600-00297791 location of your institution vFVXy-ZG-GM-01285-00297792-00298151 or meaning that uh you have staff who vFVXy-ZG-GM-01286-00298152-00298599 are not welcoming of it vFVXy-ZG-GM-01287-00298600-00298943 if you can clarify clarify in the chat vFVXy-ZG-GM-01288-00298944-00299271 um the community yes yes vFVXy-ZG-GM-01289-00299272-00299439 well there's a couple of things to know vFVXy-ZG-GM-01290-00299440-00299710 here that um diversity comes in many vFVXy-ZG-GM-01291-00299711-00299823 forms vFVXy-ZG-GM-01292-00299824-00300158 and a reminder that when we as vFVXy-ZG-GM-01293-00300159-00300367 library staff library workers of all vFVXy-ZG-GM-01294-00300368-00300471 levels vFVXy-ZG-GM-01295-00300472-00300719 make the commitment to start learning vFVXy-ZG-GM-01296-00300720-00300951 about and working towards more equitable vFVXy-ZG-GM-01297-00300952-00301071 practices vFVXy-ZG-GM-01298-00301072-00301343 and policy that we are actively vFVXy-ZG-GM-01299-00301344-00301599 benefiting the entire community too vFVXy-ZG-GM-01300-00301600-00301895 even if it does not seem that way that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01301-00301896-00301934 we vFVXy-ZG-GM-01302-00301935-00302167 for example talk about whiteness mention vFVXy-ZG-GM-01303-00302168-00302447 it try to de-center it that is in fact vFVXy-ZG-GM-01304-00302448-00302758 a very primary role vFVXy-ZG-GM-01305-00302759-00303030 that i think librarianship should strive vFVXy-ZG-GM-01306-00303031-00303134 towards vFVXy-ZG-GM-01307-00303135-00303439 so yes it is a hard vFVXy-ZG-GM-01308-00303440-00303695 place to be in if you are in a community vFVXy-ZG-GM-01309-00303696-00303887 that doesn't accept it but i also think vFVXy-ZG-GM-01310-00303888-00304103 that it's hard to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01311-00304104-00304327 simply say that all members of community vFVXy-ZG-GM-01312-00304328-00304454 feel that way or vFVXy-ZG-GM-01313-00304455-00304671 that diversity is understood to be one vFVXy-ZG-GM-01314-00304672-00304830 way it could be that there is vFVXy-ZG-GM-01315-00304831-00305023 just a misunderstanding of the ways in vFVXy-ZG-GM-01316-00305024-00305167 which diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-01317-00305168-00305503 is um it's experienced the ways in which vFVXy-ZG-GM-01318-00305504-00305623 we encompass so many vFVXy-ZG-GM-01319-00305624-00305958 identities vFVXy-ZG-GM-01320-00305959-00306206 thank you mimosa um the next two vFVXy-ZG-GM-01321-00306207-00306351 questions i'm going to put together vFVXy-ZG-GM-01322-00306352-00306679 because they they i think go together uh vFVXy-ZG-GM-01323-00306680-00306871 first one when you start started your vFVXy-ZG-GM-01324-00306872-00306982 edi committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-01325-00306983-00307191 did you select members or did you send vFVXy-ZG-GM-01326-00307192-00307454 out a call for interested people vFVXy-ZG-GM-01327-00307455-00307639 and the second part is how large is your vFVXy-ZG-GM-01328-00307640-00307847 edi committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-01329-00307848-00308079 so i was actually not on the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-01330-00308080-00308230 when it first started vFVXy-ZG-GM-01331-00308231-00308447 i believe that they were members who vFVXy-ZG-GM-01332-00308448-00308687 were selected by administration vFVXy-ZG-GM-01333-00308688-00308967 and or others who had been expressly vFVXy-ZG-GM-01334-00308968-00309143 involved with the creation vFVXy-ZG-GM-01335-00309144-00309471 of the committee previously the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01336-00309472-00309534 committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-01337-00309535-00309775 strived to have at least one person from vFVXy-ZG-GM-01338-00309776-00309919 each department vFVXy-ZG-GM-01339-00309920-00310151 but then we recognized that wasn't vFVXy-ZG-GM-01340-00310152-00310279 necessarily going to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01341-00310280-00310582 happen always and that um that number vFVXy-ZG-GM-01342-00310583-00310903 actually that we put out there about 12 vFVXy-ZG-GM-01343-00310904-00311167 was arbitrary there are many others who vFVXy-ZG-GM-01344-00311168-00311223 could make vFVXy-ZG-GM-01345-00311224-00311519 our community work stronger so currently vFVXy-ZG-GM-01346-00311520-00311623 we have vFVXy-ZG-GM-01347-00311624-00311910 20 members on the committee including vFVXy-ZG-GM-01348-00311911-00312095 our executive director vFVXy-ZG-GM-01349-00312096-00312375 our safety supervisor and our learning vFVXy-ZG-GM-01350-00312376-00312399 and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01351-00312400-00312630 training manager and human resources vFVXy-ZG-GM-01352-00312631-00312710 manager vFVXy-ZG-GM-01353-00312711-00312934 but then there are people from other vFVXy-ZG-GM-01354-00312935-00313023 parts of the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01355-00313024-00313310 organization that are part-time staff as vFVXy-ZG-GM-01356-00313311-00313454 well as staff who vFVXy-ZG-GM-01357-00313455-00313863 do more clerical work so i think we are vFVXy-ZG-GM-01358-00313864-00314006 trying to strive for vFVXy-ZG-GM-01359-00314007-00314310 a diversity in terms of the types of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01360-00314311-00314687 work we do at the library vFVXy-ZG-GM-01361-00314688-00314910 thank you mimosa we have four more vFVXy-ZG-GM-01362-00314911-00315095 questions but i do see we have five vFVXy-ZG-GM-01363-00315096-00315279 minutes left and i know you had a vFVXy-ZG-GM-01364-00315280-00315423 closing and then do you want to show vFVXy-ZG-GM-01365-00315424-00315630 your contact information vFVXy-ZG-GM-01366-00315631-00315951 yes i i do and i'm happy to continue vFVXy-ZG-GM-01367-00315952-00316295 answering folks's questions uh via email vFVXy-ZG-GM-01368-00316296-00316599 or if there's time after the webinar vFVXy-ZG-GM-01369-00316600-00316943 so thank you uh going back to the slides vFVXy-ZG-GM-01370-00316944-00317143 i just have one more thing to share vFVXy-ZG-GM-01371-00317144-00317647 really vFVXy-ZG-GM-01372-00317648-00317958 so this is a part of a quote vFVXy-ZG-GM-01373-00317959-00318310 from the poet ross gay and specifically vFVXy-ZG-GM-01374-00318311-00318503 from his book of essays called the book vFVXy-ZG-GM-01375-00318504-00318734 of delights vFVXy-ZG-GM-01376-00318735-00318967 we can't begin our journey let alone vFVXy-ZG-GM-01377-00318968-00319327 follow any road map unless we foster joy vFVXy-ZG-GM-01378-00319328-00319687 he writes it astonishes me sometimes vFVXy-ZG-GM-01379-00319688-00319975 know often how every person i get to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01380-00319976-00320063 know vFVXy-ZG-GM-01381-00320064-00320295 everyone regardless of everything by vFVXy-ZG-GM-01382-00320296-00320495 which i mean everything vFVXy-ZG-GM-01383-00320496-00320775 lives with some profound personal sorrow vFVXy-ZG-GM-01384-00320776-00320887 brother addicted vFVXy-ZG-GM-01385-00320888-00321110 mother murder dad died in surgery vFVXy-ZG-GM-01386-00321111-00321279 rejected by their family vFVXy-ZG-GM-01387-00321280-00321671 cancer came back evicted fetus not okay vFVXy-ZG-GM-01388-00321672-00322079 everyone regardless always of everything vFVXy-ZG-GM-01389-00322080-00322334 not to mention the existential sorrow we vFVXy-ZG-GM-01390-00322335-00322519 all might be afflicted with vFVXy-ZG-GM-01391-00322520-00322799 which is that we and what we love will vFVXy-ZG-GM-01392-00322800-00322999 soon be annihilated vFVXy-ZG-GM-01393-00323000-00323334 which sounds more dramatic than it might vFVXy-ZG-GM-01394-00323335-00323703 let me just say dead is this vFVXy-ZG-GM-01395-00323704-00324015 sorrow of which our impending being no vFVXy-ZG-GM-01396-00324016-00324063 more vFVXy-ZG-GM-01397-00324064-00324287 might be the foundation the great vFVXy-ZG-GM-01398-00324288-00324415 wilderness vFVXy-ZG-GM-01399-00324416-00324743 is sorrow the true wild and if it is vFVXy-ZG-GM-01400-00324744-00325110 and if we join them you're wild to mine vFVXy-ZG-GM-01401-00325111-00325430 what's that for joining two is a kind of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01402-00325431-00325567 annihilation vFVXy-ZG-GM-01403-00325568-00325823 what if we joined our sorrows i'm saying vFVXy-ZG-GM-01404-00325824-00325958 i'm saying vFVXy-ZG-GM-01405-00325959-00326415 what if that is joy vFVXy-ZG-GM-01406-00326416-00326599 so i just want to thank you all for vFVXy-ZG-GM-01407-00326600-00326751 spending time with me today vFVXy-ZG-GM-01408-00326752-00327087 to talk about this and engage with me vFVXy-ZG-GM-01409-00327088-00327247 i also want to thank the following vFVXy-ZG-GM-01410-00327248-00327415 individuals for their feedback vFVXy-ZG-GM-01411-00327416-00327727 adrian wally hills andrea ledesma vFVXy-ZG-GM-01412-00327728-00328127 kate livingston lee nguyen matri ewin vFVXy-ZG-GM-01413-00328128-00328775 irwin and nikhil trevetti vFVXy-ZG-GM-01414-00328776-00329110 thank you so much mimosa i have captured vFVXy-ZG-GM-01415-00329111-00329334 those four questions that were not vFVXy-ZG-GM-01416-00329335-00329430 addressed vFVXy-ZG-GM-01417-00329431-00329623 and i will make sure to email them to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01418-00329624-00329767 you and if those vFVXy-ZG-GM-01419-00329768-00329991 uh pan or those attendees want to also vFVXy-ZG-GM-01420-00329992-00330134 email you directly vFVXy-ZG-GM-01421-00330135-00330271 they can but i'll make sure to send vFVXy-ZG-GM-01422-00330272-00330478 those to you and if you can just respond vFVXy-ZG-GM-01423-00330479-00330647 to them vFVXy-ZG-GM-01424-00330648-00330895 and then we'll add them on our website vFVXy-ZG-GM-01425-00330896-00330958 of course vFVXy-ZG-GM-01426-00330959-00331199 removing and it'll be anonymous removing vFVXy-ZG-GM-01427-00331200-00331367 any identifiers vFVXy-ZG-GM-01428-00331368-00331654 so we can have those answered i'm really vFVXy-ZG-GM-01429-00331655-00331815 appreciative to you vFVXy-ZG-GM-01430-00331816-00332095 for your time uh and i took several vFVXy-ZG-GM-01431-00332096-00332175 notes and vFVXy-ZG-GM-01432-00332176-00332367 one of the real key takeaways i kept vFVXy-ZG-GM-01433-00332368-00332582 hearing is accountability vFVXy-ZG-GM-01434-00332583-00332791 so really looking at gathering that vFVXy-ZG-GM-01435-00332792-00332991 feedback on what not just what we're vFVXy-ZG-GM-01436-00332992-00333287 saying but actually what we're doing vFVXy-ZG-GM-01437-00333288-00333558 and also uh looking at those actions vFVXy-ZG-GM-01438-00333559-00333830 which is the doing and then strategies vFVXy-ZG-GM-01439-00333831-00334151 that we're actually using um to vFVXy-ZG-GM-01440-00334152-00334415 make an impact or to actually identify vFVXy-ZG-GM-01441-00334416-00334558 with that what we're doing vFVXy-ZG-GM-01442-00334559-00334815 piece and how it ties into whether it's vFVXy-ZG-GM-01443-00334816-00334887 the committee vFVXy-ZG-GM-01444-00334888-00335087 the goals the objectives uh the vFVXy-ZG-GM-01445-00335088-00335230 statements vFVXy-ZG-GM-01446-00335231-00335439 so thank you again and you're getting a vFVXy-ZG-GM-01447-00335440-00335534 lot of um vFVXy-ZG-GM-01448-00335535-00335847 thank yous in the chat uh this will be vFVXy-ZG-GM-01449-00335848-00336175 posted within two weeks on our website vFVXy-ZG-GM-01450-00336176-00336343 and i really appreciate everybody's vFVXy-ZG-GM-01451-00336344-00336423 attendance vFVXy-ZG-GM-01452-00336424-00336630 so thank you again mimosa and to all of vFVXy-ZG-GM-01453-00336631-00336751 our attendees vFVXy-ZG-GM-01454-00336752-00336951 we appreciate you and hope to see you at vFVXy-ZG-GM-01455-00336952-00337215 our next webinar series on diversity vFVXy-ZG-GM-01456-00337216-00337334 topics vFVXy-ZG-GM-01457-00337335-00337783 thank you thank you everyone vIE4AZWv_oE-00000-00000358-00001131 [Music] vIE4AZWv_oE-00001-00001132-00003475 [Music] vIE4AZWv_oE-00002-00003476-00003985 yeah vIE4AZWv_oE-00003-00003986-00004749 [Music] vIE4AZWv_oE-00004-00004750-00005400 [Music] vIE4AZWv_oE-00005-00005401-00005978 [Music] vIE4AZWv_oE-00006-00005979-00008106 [Music] vIUJLvsXYL8-00000-00000000-00000254 a planetarium projector is a device used vIUJLvsXYL8-00001-00000254-00000569 to project images of celestial objects vIUJLvsXYL8-00002-00000570-00000914 onto the dome in a planetarium the first vIUJLvsXYL8-00003-00000915-00001148 modern planetarium projectors were vIUJLvsXYL8-00004-00001149-00001333 designed and built by the carl zeiss 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of vIUJLvsXYL8-00065-00021009-00021359 our galaxy specific projectors could vIUJLvsXYL8-00066-00021360-00021553 imitate the light changes of such vIUJLvsXYL8-00067-00021554-00021844 variable stars as algal or Omicron Ceti vIUJLvsXYL8-00068-00021845-00022069 and other projectors could produce vIUJLvsXYL8-00069-00022070-00022349 images of the constellations of specific vIUJLvsXYL8-00070-00022350-00022466 historical calm vIUJLvsXYL8-00071-00022467-00022685 compass points and other astronomical vIUJLvsXYL8-00072-00022686-00023027 phenomena when a particular star or vIUJLvsXYL8-00073-00023028-00023237 planet dipped below the artificial vIUJLvsXYL8-00074-00023238-00023513 horizon a gravity based mercury filled vIUJLvsXYL8-00075-00023514-00023744 shutter would be activated blocking out vIUJLvsXYL8-00076-00023745-00024203 the light topic recent developments in vIUJLvsXYL8-00077-00024204-00024455 planetarium projector technology in vIUJLvsXYL8-00078-00024456-00024554 recent years vIUJLvsXYL8-00079-00024555-00024815 planetariums or dome theaters have vIUJLvsXYL8-00080-00024816-00024979 broadened their offerings to include vIUJLvsXYL8-00081-00024980-00025259 widescreen or wraparound films vIUJLvsXYL8-00082-00025260-00025519 full dome video and laser shows that vIUJLvsXYL8-00083-00025520-00025794 combine music with laser drawn patterns vIUJLvsXYL8-00084-00025795-00026125 the newest generation of planetariums vIUJLvsXYL8-00085-00026126-00026377 such as Evans & Sutherland digi star vIUJLvsXYL8-00086-00026379-00026675 three global immersions fidelity or sky vIUJLvsXYL8-00087-00026676-00026927 scans digital ski offer a fully digital vIUJLvsXYL8-00088-00026927-00027176 projection system in which a single vIUJLvsXYL8-00089-00027177-00027398 projector with a fisheye lens or a vIUJLvsXYL8-00090-00027399-00027670 system of digital video or laser video vIUJLvsXYL8-00091-00027672-00027895 projectors around the edge of the dome vIUJLvsXYL8-00092-00027897-00028181 are used to create any scene provided to vIUJLvsXYL8-00093-00028182-00028457 it from a computer this gives the vIUJLvsXYL8-00094-00028458-00028694 operator tremendous flexibility in vIUJLvsXYL8-00095-00028695-00028939 showing not only the modern night sky as vIUJLvsXYL8-00096-00028941-00029170 visible from Earth but any other image vIUJLvsXYL8-00097-00029172-00029243 they wish vIUJLvsXYL8-00098-00029244-00029486 including the night sky as visible from vIUJLvsXYL8-00099-00029487-00029758 points far distant in space and time vIUJLvsXYL8-00100-00029758-00030089 while many projection systems maintain vIUJLvsXYL8-00101-00030089-00030265 their large single or multiple vIUJLvsXYL8-00102-00030266-00030496 projectors other systems like the vIUJLvsXYL8-00103-00030497-00030830 Emerald planetariums light series at 42 vIUJLvsXYL8-00104-00030831-00031139 pounds 262 pounds and the digitalis vIUJLvsXYL8-00105-00031139-00031460 education Solutions Inc digitarium iota vIUJLvsXYL8-00106-00031461-00031817 and Delta 3 at twenty point six and 33 vIUJLvsXYL8-00107-00031818-00032114 point five pounds respectively cater to vIUJLvsXYL8-00108-00032114-00033337 portable planetariums topic see also vIUJLvsXYL8-00109-00033338-00033882 list of planetariums full-dome video vIUJLvsXYL8-00110-00033883-00034423 planetarium Zeiss projector vpAe7PZb2_E-00000-00000061-00000319 [Music] vpAe7PZb2_E-00001-00000320-00000743 like many of us who work in oncology I vpAe7PZb2_E-00002-00000744-00001019 was drawn to this position and to this vpAe7PZb2_E-00003-00001019-00001243 field because I have a personal vpAe7PZb2_E-00004-00001244-00001607 experience with cancer in my family our vpAe7PZb2_E-00005-00001607-00001834 department provides all of the support vpAe7PZb2_E-00006-00001835-00002171 services that any cancer patient and vpAe7PZb2_E-00007-00002172-00002417 their family members might need from the vpAe7PZb2_E-00008-00002418-00002668 time of diagnosis as they go through vpAe7PZb2_E-00009-00002669-00003023 treatment and into survivorship we have vpAe7PZb2_E-00010-00003024-00003322 the right people in place to support the vpAe7PZb2_E-00011-00003323-00003575 whole patient as he or she is vpAe7PZb2_E-00012-00003576-00003911 experiencing treatment we're so grateful vpAe7PZb2_E-00013-00003911-00004151 for the relationships that we have with vpAe7PZb2_E-00014-00004152-00004420 our patients we're so lucky that they vpAe7PZb2_E-00015-00004421-00004672 include us in one of the most vulnerable vpAe7PZb2_E-00016-00004673-00004895 times and one of the most scariest times vpAe7PZb2_E-00017-00004896-00005267 in their lives because I know every day vpAe7PZb2_E-00018-00005268-00005579 I can help somebody cope with their vpAe7PZb2_E-00019-00005580-00005861 disease and get to a place where maybe vpAe7PZb2_E-00020-00005862-00006238 they can find some peace and maybe they vpAe7PZb2_E-00021-00006239-00006484 can find some hope and that is what I vpAe7PZb2_E-00022-00006486-00006731 hope to continue to do at the Dewberry vpAe7PZb2_E-00023-00006731-00007312 Cancer Resource Center at bhc health vpAe7PZb2_E-00024-00007313-00007623 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00000-00000000-00000233 I think we're on now so like I said good vTFeKkmikr0-00001-00000234-00000497 afternoon everyone and that's really an vTFeKkmikr0-00002-00000498-00000701 opportunity to be here I want to vTFeKkmikr0-00003-00000702-00000952 appreciate all our panelists uh who vTFeKkmikr0-00004-00000953-00001204 almost all of them are my my professors vTFeKkmikr0-00005-00001205-00001415 uh Professor dugar I can think of vTFeKkmikr0-00006-00001416-00001745 surgery got their uh Professor duroni vTFeKkmikr0-00007-00001746-00002110 um Dr Patrick and of course vTFeKkmikr0-00008-00002111-00002387 um uh the the person that we're vTFeKkmikr0-00009-00002388-00002734 celebrating today Professor toy rappo vTFeKkmikr0-00010-00002735-00002987 um uh I wanted to quickly say that my my vTFeKkmikr0-00011-00002988-00003184 experience with Professor toy Europe who vTFeKkmikr0-00012-00003185-00003467 has been very astronomically uh a great vTFeKkmikr0-00013-00003468-00003665 blessing um I did my undergrad at the vTFeKkmikr0-00014-00003665-00003899 University of Jos and vTFeKkmikr0-00015-00003900-00004241 um he my first publication ever vTFeKkmikr0-00016-00004242-00004456 um he literally took menai's wings and vTFeKkmikr0-00017-00004457-00004759 then I I go that through so I'm really vTFeKkmikr0-00018-00004760-00005086 privileged to have professors that are vTFeKkmikr0-00019-00005087-00005272 um really forward thinking and really vTFeKkmikr0-00020-00005273-00005615 looking forward to building you know vTFeKkmikr0-00021-00005616-00005783 um young ones vTFeKkmikr0-00022-00005784-00006077 um today we will be taking on different vTFeKkmikr0-00023-00006078-00006383 things from from the review to the vTFeKkmikr0-00024-00006384-00006484 panelists that will be having vTFeKkmikr0-00025-00006486-00006695 presentation about the book and I just vTFeKkmikr0-00026-00006695-00006845 want to say thank you for being here I vTFeKkmikr0-00027-00006845-00006953 also want to say thank you to our vTFeKkmikr0-00028-00006954-00007241 partner um how round for offering on the vTFeKkmikr0-00029-00007242-00007463 platform to live stream and then I hope vTFeKkmikr0-00030-00007464-00007625 that we have a great time vTFeKkmikr0-00031-00007626-00007787 um congratulations to Professor toy vTFeKkmikr0-00032-00007788-00007973 rappu once again and of course they did vTFeKkmikr0-00033-00007973-00008189 to the entire tutorial team really vTFeKkmikr0-00034-00008190-00008333 looking forward to having a great time vTFeKkmikr0-00035-00008334-00008507 with you today I'll hand it back to vTFeKkmikr0-00036-00008508-00008795 makoti um for the next line of action vTFeKkmikr0-00037-00008796-00009874 thank you so much vTFeKkmikr0-00038-00009875-00010246 okay vTFeKkmikr0-00039-00010247-00013115 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00040-00013116-00014172 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00041-00014173-00014447 we can't hear anything from makodi vTFeKkmikr0-00042-00014447-00016379 there's no sound vTFeKkmikr0-00043-00016380-00018522 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00044-00018523-00020279 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00045-00020280-00021061 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00046-00021062-00021761 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00047-00021762-00022085 yes go ahead vTFeKkmikr0-00048-00022086-00022283 okay vTFeKkmikr0-00049-00022284-00022444 um vTFeKkmikr0-00050-00022445-00022786 thank you everyone here vTFeKkmikr0-00051-00022787-00022858 um vTFeKkmikr0-00052-00022859-00023099 I know that the activities have been vTFeKkmikr0-00053-00023100-00023314 going on since uh two o'clock in vTFeKkmikr0-00054-00023315-00023471 different forms vTFeKkmikr0-00055-00023472-00023753 and this is a the period for the vTFeKkmikr0-00056-00023754-00023957 panelists vTFeKkmikr0-00057-00023958-00024263 um I have only eight minutes so I will vTFeKkmikr0-00058-00024264-00024635 try and and keep to the eight minutes in vTFeKkmikr0-00059-00024636-00024880 the events that I want to say vTFeKkmikr0-00060-00024881-00025217 uh it's a big challenge because uh vTFeKkmikr0-00061-00025218-00025475 when you have known somebody like Thor vTFeKkmikr0-00062-00025476-00025655 for 40 years vTFeKkmikr0-00063-00025656-00025906 and you have to compress all of that to vTFeKkmikr0-00064-00025907-00026093 eight minutes it's a big challenge but vTFeKkmikr0-00065-00026094-00026377 I'll try uh vTFeKkmikr0-00066-00026377-00026657 theater for development scholarship in vTFeKkmikr0-00067-00026658-00026974 Nigeria and Beyond it's uh what I'm vTFeKkmikr0-00068-00026975-00027118 talking about vTFeKkmikr0-00069-00027119-00027401 but uh uh let me begin to by saying vTFeKkmikr0-00070-00027402-00027683 happy birthday to you uh it's good to be vTFeKkmikr0-00071-00027683-00028085 60. uh it opens those it also tells you vTFeKkmikr0-00072-00028086-00028223 that you're getting old vTFeKkmikr0-00073-00028224-00028387 so you have to vTFeKkmikr0-00074-00028388-00028739 to manage this between that age and the vTFeKkmikr0-00075-00028739-00029177 sweet 60 uh that you have reached uh as vTFeKkmikr0-00076-00029177-00029458 we say in Nigeria the young shall grow I vTFeKkmikr0-00077-00029460-00029596 think you have grown vTFeKkmikr0-00078-00029597-00029929 so welcome on board vTFeKkmikr0-00079-00029930-00030299 if I recall correctly my first meeting vTFeKkmikr0-00080-00030300-00030796 with Professor toe was way back in 1982 vTFeKkmikr0-00081-00030797-00031277 in a a workshop on a popular theater or vTFeKkmikr0-00082-00031277-00031589 theater for development in a vTFeKkmikr0-00083-00031589-00031990 Casino I think tour was a student in the vTFeKkmikr0-00084-00031991-00032224 College of Education at the time vTFeKkmikr0-00085-00032225-00032531 and he was one of the very many students vTFeKkmikr0-00086-00032532-00032633 who vTFeKkmikr0-00087-00032633-00032999 who asked to be part of the workshop by vTFeKkmikr0-00088-00033000-00033274 the later tahora vTFeKkmikr0-00089-00033275-00033707 he was an introduction to if you like a vTFeKkmikr0-00090-00033708-00034043 strange theater practice for this young vTFeKkmikr0-00091-00034044-00034277 men and women who were in The College of vTFeKkmikr0-00092-00034278-00034421 Education vTFeKkmikr0-00093-00034422-00034762 but I think it is uh that strange vTFeKkmikr0-00094-00034763-00034967 encounter vTFeKkmikr0-00095-00034968-00035267 that has grown prophecy author into what vTFeKkmikr0-00096-00035268-00035446 he is today vTFeKkmikr0-00097-00035447-00035783 uh in in in moving them away from the vTFeKkmikr0-00098-00035784-00036377 classroom into uh communities he was the vTFeKkmikr0-00099-00036378-00036502 beginning vTFeKkmikr0-00100-00036503-00036851 of a lot of experiences for them and vTFeKkmikr0-00101-00036852-00037031 this was the beginning that was vTFeKkmikr0-00102-00037032-00037229 championed interestingly vTFeKkmikr0-00103-00037230-00037535 by the benue state Council for arts and vTFeKkmikr0-00104-00037536-00037679 culture vTFeKkmikr0-00105-00037680-00037912 burn with it vTFeKkmikr0-00106-00037913-00038243 at the time of organizing this Workshop vTFeKkmikr0-00107-00038244-00038507 it was the second edition the first one vTFeKkmikr0-00108-00038508-00038746 had been done in 1981. vTFeKkmikr0-00109-00038747-00039065 and for they asked Council to become the vTFeKkmikr0-00110-00039066-00039287 Hub of vTFeKkmikr0-00111-00039288-00039479 popular theater Community Theater vTFeKkmikr0-00112-00039480-00039827 practice in benue state at the time was vTFeKkmikr0-00113-00039828-00040312 a new uh forest for them as well as all vTFeKkmikr0-00114-00040313-00040685 the workshop participants but vTFeKkmikr0-00115-00040686-00040993 I saw a lot of enthusiasm and interest vTFeKkmikr0-00116-00040994-00041267 on the part of the many students who vTFeKkmikr0-00117-00041268-00041615 were there including tour when vTFeKkmikr0-00118-00041616-00041974 as the facilitator we we shepherded them vTFeKkmikr0-00119-00041975-00042571 into communities Wombo uh vTFeKkmikr0-00120-00042572-00042851 they were looking at this and you know vTFeKkmikr0-00121-00042852-00043109 as students the usual thing is what the vTFeKkmikr0-00122-00043110-00043277 hell am I doing in these communities vTFeKkmikr0-00123-00043278-00043493 when I should be studying books and all vTFeKkmikr0-00124-00043494-00043739 of that but I think today he will also vTFeKkmikr0-00125-00043740-00044008 tell his own Encounter of how students vTFeKkmikr0-00126-00044009-00044368 reacted to him in this many many uh vTFeKkmikr0-00127-00044369-00044573 Community Theater practices in the vTFeKkmikr0-00128-00044574-00044843 University of Jos and elsewhere and vTFeKkmikr0-00129-00044844-00045112 that's what has made him who he is vTFeKkmikr0-00130-00045113-00045418 and I think that vTFeKkmikr0-00131-00045419-00045689 at the time we went in that Workshop in vTFeKkmikr0-00132-00045690-00045808 1982 vTFeKkmikr0-00133-00045809-00046061 I had seen the enthusiasm and I was vTFeKkmikr0-00134-00046062-00046379 asking myself who amongst all of these vTFeKkmikr0-00135-00046380-00046637 students would take this experience vTFeKkmikr0-00136-00046638-00046757 forward vTFeKkmikr0-00137-00046758-00047015 I have no way of knowing vTFeKkmikr0-00138-00047016-00047255 who theater for development would choose vTFeKkmikr0-00139-00047256-00047380 among them vTFeKkmikr0-00140-00047381-00047687 it's not about who we choose theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00141-00047688-00048017 development my position always is that vTFeKkmikr0-00142-00048018-00048262 tfd vTFeKkmikr0-00143-00048263-00048580 chooses who it wants you don't choose vTFeKkmikr0-00144-00048581-00048851 theater for development those who choose vTFeKkmikr0-00145-00048852-00049090 theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00146-00049091-00049505 don't last but if you are chosen by tfd vTFeKkmikr0-00147-00049506-00049708 it's a live engagement vTFeKkmikr0-00148-00049709-00050093 and I'm I'm saying that Thor was chosen vTFeKkmikr0-00149-00050094-00050411 by theater for development and his vTFeKkmikr0-00150-00050412-00050758 experiences show that it isn't a one-off vTFeKkmikr0-00151-00050759-00051136 it was not just for 20 years but it's a vTFeKkmikr0-00152-00051137-00051340 long-term thing vTFeKkmikr0-00153-00051341-00051611 um when all of these encounters vTFeKkmikr0-00154-00051612-00051982 uh was for me the first stage vTFeKkmikr0-00155-00051983-00052229 the second stage of my knowing Professor vTFeKkmikr0-00156-00052229-00052354 Tom vTFeKkmikr0-00157-00052355-00052679 was our engagement together in the vTFeKkmikr0-00158-00052679-00052937 Nigerian popular theater Alliance the vTFeKkmikr0-00159-00052938-00053225 Nigerian popular theater Alliance is a vTFeKkmikr0-00160-00053226-00053411 national NGO vTFeKkmikr0-00161-00053412-00053821 that has separated in the last 33 years vTFeKkmikr0-00162-00053822-00054394 and its own work has been mainly to take vTFeKkmikr0-00163-00054395-00054803 theater practice into communities but vTFeKkmikr0-00164-00054804-00055007 what was interesting for us vTFeKkmikr0-00165-00055008-00055307 and also for tall is the fact that vTFeKkmikr0-00166-00055308-00055547 he was bringing together both the vTFeKkmikr0-00167-00055548-00055763 academic practice and the Community vTFeKkmikr0-00168-00055764-00056063 Practice as a learning platform for vTFeKkmikr0-00169-00056064-00056350 everyone who was engaged in that in that vTFeKkmikr0-00170-00056351-00056441 process vTFeKkmikr0-00171-00056441-00056879 and for for my own relationship we vTFeKkmikr0-00172-00056879-00057059 thought within that period vTFeKkmikr0-00173-00057060-00057311 I saw him one vTFeKkmikr0-00174-00057312-00057594 somebody who was ready to learn vTFeKkmikr0-00175-00057595-00057749 secondly vTFeKkmikr0-00176-00057750-00057892 he was vTFeKkmikr0-00177-00057894-00058079 playing the role of an administrator vTFeKkmikr0-00178-00058079-00058504 because Thor was the coordinator for the vTFeKkmikr0-00179-00058505-00058780 middle best Zone npta has zoned the vTFeKkmikr0-00180-00058782-00059188 country into six places six zones and vTFeKkmikr0-00181-00059189-00059404 each one had a coordinator vTFeKkmikr0-00182-00059405-00059788 so tall was Landing Administration he vTFeKkmikr0-00183-00059789-00060071 was learning theater practice he was vTFeKkmikr0-00184-00060072-00060316 learning where the meeting points vTFeKkmikr0-00185-00060317-00060544 between the Academia and Community vTFeKkmikr0-00186-00060545-00060737 practice today vTFeKkmikr0-00187-00060738-00061019 think that's why they the mentoring vTFeKkmikr0-00188-00061020-00061397 processes that he was going through vTFeKkmikr0-00189-00061398-00061607 those of us who were leading the vTFeKkmikr0-00190-00061608-00061919 practice we were also Learners I think vTFeKkmikr0-00191-00061920-00062149 one of the things is that vTFeKkmikr0-00192-00062150-00062392 popular theater or theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00193-00062394-00062854 development vTFeKkmikr0-00194-00062855-00063149 the guru is also a learner so when I vTFeKkmikr0-00195-00063150-00063407 hear people say this is a guru of tfd vTFeKkmikr0-00196-00063408-00063737 he's a learner of tfd as well because vTFeKkmikr0-00197-00063738-00064049 every experience is different and you vTFeKkmikr0-00198-00064050-00064319 learn from that they they the vTFeKkmikr0-00199-00064320-00064588 communities humble you because the vTFeKkmikr0-00200-00064589-00064853 knowledge is that abound there are vTFeKkmikr0-00201-00064854-00065038 usually they are the knowledge is that vTFeKkmikr0-00202-00065039-00065404 the elite may want to discontinence but vTFeKkmikr0-00203-00065405-00065617 that's what makes the practice vTFeKkmikr0-00204-00065618-00066059 rich and what they're doing and all the vTFeKkmikr0-00205-00066060-00066329 things that we go to vTFeKkmikr0-00206-00066330-00066438 um vTFeKkmikr0-00207-00066439-00066988 one of the the things vTFeKkmikr0-00208-00066989-00067325 canvases ownership for development to be vTFeKkmikr0-00209-00067326-00067619 meaningful to be participated no one vTFeKkmikr0-00210-00067620-00067894 knows this very well from its many years vTFeKkmikr0-00211-00067895-00068159 of encounter and as we crisscross the vTFeKkmikr0-00212-00068160-00068459 country from the north to the south east vTFeKkmikr0-00213-00068460-00068632 and west vTFeKkmikr0-00214-00068633-00068921 this way this is we were promoting the vTFeKkmikr0-00215-00068922-00069197 things we were seeing vTFeKkmikr0-00216-00069198-00069485 um the many things vTFeKkmikr0-00217-00069486-00069875 that came out of it later on talk would vTFeKkmikr0-00218-00069876-00070247 say for example in the practice of vTFeKkmikr0-00219-00070248-00070487 theater for development One Way vTFeKkmikr0-00220-00070488-00070709 everywhere and I think one of his vTFeKkmikr0-00221-00070710-00070925 articles talks about theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00222-00070926-00071200 development everywhere it's his vTFeKkmikr0-00223-00071201-00071519 contribution to my first trip when I vTFeKkmikr0-00224-00071520-00071693 turned 60. vTFeKkmikr0-00225-00071694-00071867 so vTFeKkmikr0-00226-00071868-00072360 I think that thought vTFeKkmikr0-00227-00072361-00072582 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00228-00072583-00072763 the vTFeKkmikr0-00229-00072764-00073156 different parts of Nigeria or vTFeKkmikr0-00230-00073157-00073415 going to present seminar papers and vTFeKkmikr0-00231-00073416-00073667 being part of the practice in different vTFeKkmikr0-00232-00073668-00073979 parts of the world whether it is Canada vTFeKkmikr0-00233-00073980-00074323 UK Germany U.S and so on vTFeKkmikr0-00234-00074324-00074644 this is a seasoned person in the vTFeKkmikr0-00235-00074645-00074959 practice of data for development or vTFeKkmikr0-00236-00074960-00075371 socially engaged theater as it is also vTFeKkmikr0-00237-00075372-00075749 called now in the new nomenclature but vTFeKkmikr0-00238-00075750-00075982 one of the stages of thoughts vTFeKkmikr0-00239-00075983-00076163 development which I found very vTFeKkmikr0-00240-00076164-00076456 interesting is that the mentorship from vTFeKkmikr0-00241-00076457-00076697 Casino from Nigerian popular theater vTFeKkmikr0-00242-00076698-00076925 Alliance from within the university vTFeKkmikr0-00243-00076926-00077209 Arena vTFeKkmikr0-00244-00077210-00077656 materialize when he founded Iraq vTFeKkmikr0-00245-00077657-00077899 uh Iraq vTFeKkmikr0-00246-00077900-00078144 I think he's uh vTFeKkmikr0-00247-00078145-00078532 youth adolescent reflection and action vTFeKkmikr0-00248-00078533-00078887 center when he founded the era it was vTFeKkmikr0-00249-00078888-00079031 for me vTFeKkmikr0-00250-00079032-00079271 a point of saying vTFeKkmikr0-00251-00079272-00079600 can I mobilize all of these ideas vTFeKkmikr0-00252-00079601-00080050 to serve one section of the underserved vTFeKkmikr0-00253-00080051-00080326 millions of Nigerians and that section vTFeKkmikr0-00254-00080327-00080676 of the underserved was youth vTFeKkmikr0-00255-00080677-00080915 adolescents and women vTFeKkmikr0-00256-00080916-00081269 and that's why Iraq has focused on in vTFeKkmikr0-00257-00081270-00081605 many parts of Nigeria working with the vTFeKkmikr0-00258-00081606-00081905 youth working with women with working vTFeKkmikr0-00259-00081906-00082200 with adolescence whether it's on sexual vTFeKkmikr0-00260-00082201-00082481 reproductive Health whether it is to do vTFeKkmikr0-00261-00082482-00082882 with substance abuse and so on and it's vTFeKkmikr0-00262-00082883-00083303 been a rich digest of activities by by vTFeKkmikr0-00263-00083304-00083549 Iraq which was founded by vTFeKkmikr0-00264-00083550-00083803 by by talk but vTFeKkmikr0-00265-00083804-00084100 another point of interest for me is that vTFeKkmikr0-00266-00084101-00084394 Iraq is a platform for training young vTFeKkmikr0-00267-00084395-00084737 people to understand their issues to vTFeKkmikr0-00268-00084738-00084991 understand the mechanism and methodology vTFeKkmikr0-00269-00084992-00085403 of of reclaiming themselves from the vTFeKkmikr0-00270-00085404-00085571 different challenges that face whatever vTFeKkmikr0-00271-00085572-00085876 it is whether it's sexual abuse or vTFeKkmikr0-00272-00085877-00086044 whatever vTFeKkmikr0-00273-00086045-00086476 um I I think therefore that uh vTFeKkmikr0-00274-00086477-00086911 the everywhere that Thor has gone vTFeKkmikr0-00275-00086912-00087262 materializes in Iraq and his academic vTFeKkmikr0-00276-00087263-00087706 practices and when today I speak on the vTFeKkmikr0-00277-00087707-00088150 occasion of such a protege at 60. vTFeKkmikr0-00278-00088151-00088438 uh and I hear other people were vTFeKkmikr0-00279-00088439-00088762 installing his his hard-working vTFeKkmikr0-00280-00088763-00088997 excellent vTFeKkmikr0-00281-00088998-00089441 I I tell myself I must be happy that I vTFeKkmikr0-00282-00089442-00089617 saw they see that it's not weather vTFeKkmikr0-00283-00089618-00090041 that's it has grown multiplied and is vTFeKkmikr0-00284-00090042-00090503 growing more seeds so so thank you for vTFeKkmikr0-00285-00090504-00090826 being a good Prodigy thank you for vTFeKkmikr0-00286-00090827-00091121 growing others and and I do know that vTFeKkmikr0-00287-00091122-00091247 you will do more vTFeKkmikr0-00288-00091248-00091517 uh I want to conclude with a few vTFeKkmikr0-00289-00091518-00091738 observations vTFeKkmikr0-00290-00091739-00091882 one vTFeKkmikr0-00291-00091883-00092135 the history of theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00292-00092136-00092375 when it is written vTFeKkmikr0-00293-00092376-00092603 in Nigeria vTFeKkmikr0-00294-00092604-00092812 it will not be complete vTFeKkmikr0-00295-00092813-00093215 if the benue state asks council is not vTFeKkmikr0-00296-00093216-00093394 part of that history vTFeKkmikr0-00297-00093395-00093726 and if the very vTFeKkmikr0-00298-00093727-00094105 intellectuals from benue who Champions vTFeKkmikr0-00299-00094106-00094435 and lit the touch vTFeKkmikr0-00300-00094436-00094756 1981-1982 when it was still in the vTFeKkmikr0-00301-00094757-00095218 gestation period in addition to Abu vTFeKkmikr0-00302-00095219-00095609 that history must recognize the role of vTFeKkmikr0-00303-00095610-00095903 the Earth's Council and I do wish and vTFeKkmikr0-00304-00095904-00096185 hope that has cancer is all over this vTFeKkmikr0-00305-00096186-00096550 country we think of reintegrating the vTFeKkmikr0-00306-00096551-00096785 practice of theater for development in vTFeKkmikr0-00307-00096786-00097079 their activities because is a vTFeKkmikr0-00308-00097080-00097306 combination of culture vTFeKkmikr0-00309-00097307-00097541 and this new practice vTFeKkmikr0-00310-00097542-00097847 and Academia and I think they asked vTFeKkmikr0-00311-00097848-00098015 council is not simply vTFeKkmikr0-00312-00098016-00098279 before room for dance it's a forum for vTFeKkmikr0-00313-00098280-00098512 using culture to explore what vTFeKkmikr0-00314-00098513-00098747 development can do for the ordinary vTFeKkmikr0-00315-00098748-00099035 persons of each state in this nation and vTFeKkmikr0-00316-00099036-00099221 I would I would wish that that's the vTFeKkmikr0-00317-00099222-00099541 direction to go vTFeKkmikr0-00318-00099542-00099697 secondly vTFeKkmikr0-00319-00099698-00099965 npta as a non-governmental organization vTFeKkmikr0-00320-00099966-00100282 has added value and indeed pushed the vTFeKkmikr0-00321-00100283-00100561 boundaries of theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00322-00100562-00100967 including the performance mode research vTFeKkmikr0-00323-00100968-00101405 which it took to the arena of policy MPT vTFeKkmikr0-00324-00101406-00101773 has only a lot of policy research and vTFeKkmikr0-00325-00101774-00102100 that policy research Arena I think is vTFeKkmikr0-00326-00102101-00102371 what a lot of us have not really engaged vTFeKkmikr0-00327-00102372-00102689 when we talk about socially engaged data vTFeKkmikr0-00328-00102690-00102910 or theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00329-00102911-00103240 our notion of this theater playing on it vTFeKkmikr0-00330-00103241-00103523 to rural communities is actually updated vTFeKkmikr0-00331-00103524-00103871 now we must shift the boundaries of vTFeKkmikr0-00332-00103872-00104203 operation and performance vTFeKkmikr0-00333-00104204-00104506 beyond the rural communities in this vTFeKkmikr0-00334-00104507-00104866 country the policy arena is a rich area vTFeKkmikr0-00335-00104867-00105178 for us to play at and to change things vTFeKkmikr0-00336-00105179-00105478 because no matter how much we talk to vTFeKkmikr0-00337-00105479-00105725 the ordinary persons in the rural vTFeKkmikr0-00338-00105726-00105923 communities if there is no policy vTFeKkmikr0-00339-00105924-00106247 component those things don't work and I vTFeKkmikr0-00340-00106248-00106528 I'm saying that instead of talking to vTFeKkmikr0-00341-00106529-00106834 the oppressed all the time we must vTFeKkmikr0-00342-00106835-00107134 Target the oppressors because that's vTFeKkmikr0-00343-00107135-00107357 when the Synergy and the change can vTFeKkmikr0-00344-00107358-00107633 happen it's a tall order but it is vTFeKkmikr0-00345-00107633-00107933 doable vTFeKkmikr0-00346-00107933-00108269 uh secondly vTFeKkmikr0-00347-00108270-00108658 I also think that while one says that vTFeKkmikr0-00348-00108659-00108893 this is possible vTFeKkmikr0-00349-00108894-00109204 I I I want to vTFeKkmikr0-00350-00109205-00109457 to sound an alarm vTFeKkmikr0-00351-00109458-00109673 one is that vTFeKkmikr0-00352-00109674-00109901 those of us who are in theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00353-00109902-00110152 development or social and socially vTFeKkmikr0-00354-00110153-00110483 engaged data we seem to be dancing on vTFeKkmikr0-00355-00110483-00110734 the spot now on one spot vTFeKkmikr0-00356-00110735-00111028 I read a lot of articles on theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00357-00111029-00111197 development vTFeKkmikr0-00358-00111198-00111490 I think a lot of the academics are vTFeKkmikr0-00359-00111491-00111634 rehearsing vTFeKkmikr0-00360-00111635-00111865 old ideas vTFeKkmikr0-00361-00111866-00112216 where are the New Frontiers of theater vTFeKkmikr0-00362-00112217-00112404 for development vTFeKkmikr0-00363-00112405-00112727 where is the digital use of theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00364-00112728-00112973 development what is wrong with theater vTFeKkmikr0-00365-00112974-00113257 for development operating in cyberspace vTFeKkmikr0-00366-00113258-00113584 is it not possible to hold a workshop vTFeKkmikr0-00367-00113585-00113890 and interrogate issues vTFeKkmikr0-00368-00113891-00114263 in the digital space my answer is yes it vTFeKkmikr0-00369-00114264-00114401 is possible vTFeKkmikr0-00370-00114402-00114683 we need to explore that we need to vTFeKkmikr0-00371-00114683-00114934 explore the policy Arena we need to vTFeKkmikr0-00372-00114935-00115277 explore a whole load of issues that we vTFeKkmikr0-00373-00115278-00115463 haven't paid attention to vTFeKkmikr0-00374-00115464-00115775 and these are the challenges uh people vTFeKkmikr0-00375-00115776-00116086 like Tom have done a lot but they are a vTFeKkmikr0-00376-00116088-00116352 lot more to do by younger people vTFeKkmikr0-00377-00116353-00116704 I would how many minutes I have I'll vTFeKkmikr0-00378-00116705-00117001 finish in a minute or two yeah vTFeKkmikr0-00379-00117002-00117395 oh really okay let me conclude vTFeKkmikr0-00380-00117396-00117778 I I want to to say that vTFeKkmikr0-00381-00117779-00118121 thought you have done well but let me vTFeKkmikr0-00382-00118122-00118354 ask one question vTFeKkmikr0-00383-00118355-00118583 I asked this question again the vTFeKkmikr0-00384-00118583-00118865 background that in five months time vTFeKkmikr0-00385-00118866-00119123 I start the process of retirement from vTFeKkmikr0-00386-00119124-00119308 the University vTFeKkmikr0-00387-00119309-00119639 and my question is vTFeKkmikr0-00388-00119640-00119927 will you Champion will you continue to vTFeKkmikr0-00389-00119928-00120221 Champion theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00390-00120222-00120671 even as you are engaging new things or vTFeKkmikr0-00391-00120672-00120910 will you allow the light vTFeKkmikr0-00392-00120911-00121247 to dim on theater for development and vTFeKkmikr0-00393-00121248-00121433 this question applies to every vTFeKkmikr0-00394-00121433-00121793 practitioner who is still active vTFeKkmikr0-00395-00121794-00122045 will Delight for theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00396-00122046-00122381 team or we thought and the others vTFeKkmikr0-00397-00122382-00124024 fire they practice on thank you vTFeKkmikr0-00398-00124025-00124902 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00399-00124903-00126004 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00400-00126005-00127481 we can't hear you vTFeKkmikr0-00401-00127482-00129364 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00402-00129365-00129589 can you on YouTube vTFeKkmikr0-00403-00129590-00130708 we can't hear you yeah Mike is on mute vTFeKkmikr0-00404-00130709-00130900 yes we can vTFeKkmikr0-00405-00130901-00131183 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00406-00131184-00132425 um vTFeKkmikr0-00407-00132426-00132828 first thing vTFeKkmikr0-00408-00132829-00133247 I was told between talking about this vTFeKkmikr0-00409-00133248-00133669 person vTFeKkmikr0-00410-00133670-00135935 use your system yes vTFeKkmikr0-00412-00139644-00139973 what is happening vTFeKkmikr0-00413-00139974-00140147 um I I think it's the I think it's the vTFeKkmikr0-00414-00140148-00141221 network vTFeKkmikr0-00415-00141222-00141611 who is expected to speak now vTFeKkmikr0-00416-00141612-00141863 uh it's um Professor duga is actually vTFeKkmikr0-00417-00141864-00142066 written the book right now vTFeKkmikr0-00418-00142067-00142199 okay vTFeKkmikr0-00419-00142200-00142504 but his microphone is uh vTFeKkmikr0-00420-00142505-00142793 is off vTFeKkmikr0-00421-00142794-00143033 because you can see his name vTFeKkmikr0-00422-00143034-00143675 that's right vTFeKkmikr0-00423-00143676-00144004 so I think he's connected via the vTFeKkmikr0-00424-00144005-00144233 um the CHS vTFeKkmikr0-00425-00144234-00144551 um their their own internet over there vTFeKkmikr0-00426-00144552-00144899 your own Zoom account vTFeKkmikr0-00427-00144900-00145127 um let me troubleshoot this let me reach vTFeKkmikr0-00428-00145128-00148061 out to there let's say vTFeKkmikr0-00429-00148062-00148325 uh can you hear me vTFeKkmikr0-00430-00148326-00148714 yes we can hear you now vTFeKkmikr0-00431-00148715-00149014 uh there might be some Echo but vTFeKkmikr0-00432-00149015-00149459 we will try vTFeKkmikr0-00433-00149460-00149627 we used to do this with the vice vTFeKkmikr0-00434-00149628-00149843 Chancellor many years ago finding vTFeKkmikr0-00435-00149844-00150119 Technical Solutions to issues even from vTFeKkmikr0-00436-00150120-00150313 our Visa students vTFeKkmikr0-00437-00150314-00150593 so this book vTFeKkmikr0-00438-00150594-00150887 is about eight years in the making vTFeKkmikr0-00439-00150888-00151223 is a collaboration of six editors vTFeKkmikr0-00440-00151224-00151649 with a woofing 53 chapters vTFeKkmikr0-00441-00151650-00152190 structured into six sections spread over vTFeKkmikr0-00442-00152191-00152452 789 pages vTFeKkmikr0-00443-00152453-00152743 the authors paid tribute to the presence vTFeKkmikr0-00444-00152744-00153281 of Tomba love Joe the Rafa and his vTFeKkmikr0-00445-00153282-00153623 artistic and scholarly outputs as well vTFeKkmikr0-00446-00153624-00153923 as engaged in the general discourse on vTFeKkmikr0-00447-00153924-00154216 the nature practice and social Imports vTFeKkmikr0-00448-00154217-00154589 of the Arts the authors are a healthy vTFeKkmikr0-00449-00154590-00154907 combination of Veteran and fledgling vTFeKkmikr0-00450-00154908-00155159 Scholars vTFeKkmikr0-00451-00155160-00155407 the content is calibrated as follows vTFeKkmikr0-00452-00155408-00155752 part one of those personal takes from vTFeKkmikr0-00453-00155753-00156025 different perspectives vTFeKkmikr0-00454-00156026-00156401 tributes an interview and Reflections on vTFeKkmikr0-00455-00156402-00156628 the person of the celebrant vTFeKkmikr0-00456-00156629-00157013 part two covers Aesthetics and thematic vTFeKkmikr0-00457-00157014-00157283 studies of urugu's dramatology vTFeKkmikr0-00458-00157284-00157595 part three carries the Crux of the book vTFeKkmikr0-00459-00157596-00158075 in its applied and doing theater social vTFeKkmikr0-00460-00158076-00158190 transformation vTFeKkmikr0-00461-00158191-00158507 funds and change communication vTFeKkmikr0-00462-00158508-00158837 part four holds the theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00463-00158838-00158945 development vTFeKkmikr0-00464-00158946-00159233 Community organizing and participatory vTFeKkmikr0-00465-00159234-00159683 theater discourse this is the the core vTFeKkmikr0-00466-00159684-00159989 of the practice that the celebrant has vTFeKkmikr0-00467-00159990-00160366 engaged in part five Ventures into vTFeKkmikr0-00468-00160367-00160685 the broader issues of culture democracy vTFeKkmikr0-00469-00160686-00161039 and theater in Africa the last part part vTFeKkmikr0-00470-00161040-00161140 six vTFeKkmikr0-00471-00161141-00161566 is the icing over the cake with critical vTFeKkmikr0-00472-00161567-00161951 discourse in communication dance visual vTFeKkmikr0-00473-00161952-00162269 arts and performance Aesthetics vTFeKkmikr0-00474-00162270-00162557 this well-organized Arrangement also vTFeKkmikr0-00475-00162558-00162773 touched on every realm everything vTFeKkmikr0-00476-00162774-00163199 relevant to the life of the celebrant vTFeKkmikr0-00477-00163200-00163540 from the introduction by ademiji people vTFeKkmikr0-00478-00163541-00163864 to the concluding chapter by adamole of vTFeKkmikr0-00479-00163865-00163966 Colombia vTFeKkmikr0-00480-00163967-00164309 whose life on Earth we also concluded vTFeKkmikr0-00481-00164310-00164590 with defeating burial yesterday vTFeKkmikr0-00482-00164591-00165052 this book marks a tribute of many songs vTFeKkmikr0-00483-00165053-00165214 it is vTFeKkmikr0-00484-00165215-00165437 a celebration vTFeKkmikr0-00485-00165438-00165676 of mentorship vTFeKkmikr0-00486-00165677-00165947 so being a product vTFeKkmikr0-00487-00165948-00166145 of many mentors vTFeKkmikr0-00488-00166146-00166559 and a mentor to many others it pays vTFeKkmikr0-00489-00166560-00166745 trouble to the institutions that raise vTFeKkmikr0-00490-00166746-00166973 them up from government Secondary School vTFeKkmikr0-00491-00166974-00167087 Casino vTFeKkmikr0-00492-00167088-00167375 the College of Education Casino vTFeKkmikr0-00493-00167376-00167716 the University of Jos vTFeKkmikr0-00494-00167717-00168076 all public institutions that have vTFeKkmikr0-00495-00168077-00168233 faces vTFeKkmikr0-00496-00168234-00168539 there are all faced challenges vTFeKkmikr0-00497-00168540-00168797 threatening to derail their ability to vTFeKkmikr0-00498-00168798-00169157 produce other Europeans in the future vTFeKkmikr0-00499-00169158-00169589 issues of development and invariably vTFeKkmikr0-00500-00169590-00169913 you can put it vTFeKkmikr0-00501-00169914-00170645 all of this one vTFeKkmikr0-00502-00170646-00170885 issues of development invariably take vTFeKkmikr0-00503-00170886-00171281 the bulk of the book unfittingly vTFeKkmikr0-00504-00171282-00171545 fittingly so Scholars have rightly vTFeKkmikr0-00505-00171546-00171671 spotted vTFeKkmikr0-00506-00171672-00171893 the social engagement part of the vTFeKkmikr0-00507-00171894-00172133 celebrant to be the core of his vTFeKkmikr0-00508-00172134-00172385 contribution to the Arts in what one of vTFeKkmikr0-00509-00172386-00172828 the writers calls Europe vTFeKkmikr0-00510-00172829-00173069 Aesthetics vTFeKkmikr0-00511-00173070-00173261 those of you wanting to do master's vTFeKkmikr0-00512-00173262-00173531 degree maybe you will take it from there vTFeKkmikr0-00513-00173532-00173771 a nature seems to have been created in vTFeKkmikr0-00514-00173772-00174004 the life of the Oracle which delicately vTFeKkmikr0-00515-00174005-00174233 balances the individual and the vTFeKkmikr0-00516-00174234-00174419 community the scholarship and the vTFeKkmikr0-00517-00174420-00174851 practice the Arts our development and vTFeKkmikr0-00518-00174852-00175157 organizing and change communication vTFeKkmikr0-00519-00175158-00175481 generally the book is well edited and vTFeKkmikr0-00520-00175482-00175763 reads lucidly a few of the chapters vTFeKkmikr0-00521-00175764-00176057 especially those on performance laws vTFeKkmikr0-00522-00176058-00176243 are accompanied by pictorial vTFeKkmikr0-00523-00176244-00176399 illustrations vTFeKkmikr0-00524-00176400-00176699 several personal Tales vTFeKkmikr0-00525-00176700-00177028 add new angles to existing knowledge but vTFeKkmikr0-00526-00177029-00177226 fresh perspectives have been brought up vTFeKkmikr0-00527-00177227-00177743 in the extensive conclusions of the 71 vTFeKkmikr0-00528-00177744-00178013 writers and co-writers of the various vTFeKkmikr0-00529-00178014-00178121 chapters vTFeKkmikr0-00530-00178122-00178426 a few errors can be detected if you take vTFeKkmikr0-00531-00178427-00178690 a supervisor's rule to run through the vTFeKkmikr0-00532-00178691-00178961 book but these are negligible and can be vTFeKkmikr0-00533-00178962-00179249 corrected with new additions but they do vTFeKkmikr0-00534-00179250-00179716 not significantly distort or reduce vTFeKkmikr0-00535-00179717-00180016 from the high quality work served in vTFeKkmikr0-00536-00180017-00180113 this book vTFeKkmikr0-00537-00180114-00180425 this book therefore comes to add to the vTFeKkmikr0-00538-00180426-00180731 literature on the various things stated vTFeKkmikr0-00539-00180732-00181031 above it definitely will make vTFeKkmikr0-00540-00181032-00181295 valuable contribution to institutional vTFeKkmikr0-00541-00181296-00181543 Administration theater scholarship vTFeKkmikr0-00542-00181544-00181876 Community organizing social Transitions vTFeKkmikr0-00543-00181877-00182183 and development in Africa the vTFeKkmikr0-00544-00182184-00182413 proprietary of its release at this time vTFeKkmikr0-00545-00182414-00182699 can only be uploaded vTFeKkmikr0-00546-00182700-00182902 from the current assignment of the vTFeKkmikr0-00547-00182903-00183173 celebrant as Vice Chancellor it can be vTFeKkmikr0-00548-00183174-00183335 safely predicted vTFeKkmikr0-00549-00183336-00183664 that the recipe for another book is vTFeKkmikr0-00550-00183665-00183838 already being prepared or has already vTFeKkmikr0-00551-00183839-00184138 been prepared in the last two years and vTFeKkmikr0-00552-00184139-00184276 we should be ready vTFeKkmikr0-00553-00184277-00184738 for the oven in the next three years vTFeKkmikr0-00554-00184739-00184938 National Library needs this book vTFeKkmikr0-00555-00184939-00185249 individuals and communities need to vTFeKkmikr0-00556-00185250-00185428 absorb its content vTFeKkmikr0-00557-00185429-00185807 to learn to inspire children vTFeKkmikr0-00558-00185808-00186263 from taraku to the top from obscurity to vTFeKkmikr0-00559-00186264-00186611 Global recognition as the celebrant has vTFeKkmikr0-00560-00186612-00186869 enjoyed once more congratulations to the vTFeKkmikr0-00561-00186870-00187228 celebrant and to the celebrators those vTFeKkmikr0-00562-00187229-00187445 who contributed who worked out to get vTFeKkmikr0-00563-00187446-00187787 this book out whose work is has indeed vTFeKkmikr0-00564-00187788-00188057 immortalized the celebrant thank you for vTFeKkmikr0-00565-00188058-00188273 listening vTFeKkmikr0-00566-00188274-00189604 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00567-00189605-00190487 let's appreciate professor vTFeKkmikr0-00568-00190488-00191938 hello vTFeKkmikr0-00569-00191939-00192262 okay thank you vTFeKkmikr0-00570-00192263-00192552 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00571-00192553-00193091 and I'm sure vTFeKkmikr0-00572-00193092-00193369 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00573-00193370-00193619 the next I think vTFeKkmikr0-00574-00193620-00193835 is the discourse vTFeKkmikr0-00575-00193836-00194002 number one vTFeKkmikr0-00576-00194003-00194662 by Professor um vTFeKkmikr0-00577-00194663-00195625 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00578-00195626-00196066 theater in Nigeria Professor only I'm vTFeKkmikr0-00579-00196067-00196201 sure you are vTFeKkmikr0-00580-00196202-00196709 until you have the floor vTFeKkmikr0-00581-00196710-00197147 thank you thank you vTFeKkmikr0-00582-00197148-00197416 let me just make sure that you can see vTFeKkmikr0-00583-00197417-00198121 me vTFeKkmikr0-00584-00198122-00198426 thank you vTFeKkmikr0-00585-00198427-00199249 very much vTFeKkmikr0-00586-00199250-00201043 of today vTFeKkmikr0-00587-00201044-00201304 happy birthday to you and your entire vTFeKkmikr0-00588-00201305-00201563 family vTFeKkmikr0-00589-00201564-00201881 it is my pleasure to join us all on this vTFeKkmikr0-00590-00201882-00202019 occasion vTFeKkmikr0-00591-00202020-00202261 of the colloquium and book presentation vTFeKkmikr0-00592-00202262-00202816 commemorating Professor Joe uraku at 60. vTFeKkmikr0-00593-00202817-00203099 let me also thank vTFeKkmikr0-00594-00203100-00203525 Professor dinner vTFeKkmikr0-00595-00203526-00203849 and Dr taiwo afolabi vTFeKkmikr0-00596-00203850-00204469 for putting this together vTFeKkmikr0-00597-00204470-00204953 has been known to me for quite some time vTFeKkmikr0-00598-00204954-00205301 but I believe it's also appropriate vTFeKkmikr0-00599-00205302-00205757 to salute the keynote speaker vTFeKkmikr0-00600-00205758-00206129 Professor August Chief Abba vTFeKkmikr0-00601-00206130-00206458 who is known as the father of vTFeKkmikr0-00602-00206459-00206692 theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00603-00206694-00207394 or socially engaged theater in Nigeria vTFeKkmikr0-00604-00207396-00207646 the history of theater for development vTFeKkmikr0-00605-00207648-00207808 in Nigeria vTFeKkmikr0-00606-00207809-00207988 of course before now let me also thank vTFeKkmikr0-00607-00207989-00208205 Professor Victor s dugardino vTFeKkmikr0-00608-00208206-00208373 Postgraduate School at Federal vTFeKkmikr0-00609-00208373-00208657 University Lafayette vTFeKkmikr0-00610-00208658-00209225 my own participation here is to discuss vTFeKkmikr0-00611-00209226-00209453 development of community organizing vTFeKkmikr0-00612-00209454-00209813 participatory theater in Nigeria vTFeKkmikr0-00613-00209814-00210058 let me say that the headquarters of vTFeKkmikr0-00614-00210059-00210329 theater for development in Nigeria vTFeKkmikr0-00615-00210330-00210575 is very easily their model below vTFeKkmikr0-00616-00210576-00210719 University vTFeKkmikr0-00617-00210719-00210898 in Zaria vTFeKkmikr0-00618-00210900-00211181 and most people may not know this but I vTFeKkmikr0-00619-00211182-00211355 did start my vTFeKkmikr0-00620-00211356-00211541 career vTFeKkmikr0-00621-00211542-00211798 at the center for Nigerian cultural vTFeKkmikr0-00622-00211800-00212146 studies of ahmadu Bello University vTFeKkmikr0-00623-00212148-00212417 our Center of course at that time was vTFeKkmikr0-00624-00212417-00212710 based in kanu which later became Gita vTFeKkmikr0-00625-00212711-00212891 makama vTFeKkmikr0-00626-00212892-00213131 and those who started the theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00627-00213132-00213323 development at the ahmadu Bello vTFeKkmikr0-00628-00213323-00213473 University then vTFeKkmikr0-00629-00213473-00213844 included Michael Atherton vTFeKkmikr0-00630-00213846-00214132 and Dr Andrew on vTFeKkmikr0-00631-00214133-00214348 Michael letterton was in the department vTFeKkmikr0-00632-00214350-00214684 of English just before the vTFeKkmikr0-00633-00214685-00214919 Department of English vTFeKkmikr0-00634-00214919-00215141 which also Incorporated the theater vTFeKkmikr0-00635-00215142-00215321 program vTFeKkmikr0-00636-00215321-00215560 of course andron was also one of them vTFeKkmikr0-00637-00215561-00215939 and some of the earliest uh students at vTFeKkmikr0-00638-00215940-00216125 that time and those who had joined the vTFeKkmikr0-00639-00216126-00216229 service vTFeKkmikr0-00640-00216230-00216953 included yakubu nasidi he always vTFeKkmikr0-00641-00216954-00217289 of course the Professor oga Steve Abba vTFeKkmikr0-00642-00217290-00217423 of course vTFeKkmikr0-00643-00217423-00217834 also was there at some point and then of vTFeKkmikr0-00644-00217835-00218189 course the late James of poly and Sam vTFeKkmikr0-00645-00218190-00218387 Cafe vTFeKkmikr0-00646-00218388-00218717 of course as Professor August Baba has vTFeKkmikr0-00647-00218717-00218860 mentioned vTFeKkmikr0-00648-00218861-00219244 the late star ahurao of the College of vTFeKkmikr0-00649-00219246-00219503 Education in Katina Allah played a vTFeKkmikr0-00650-00219504-00219682 prominent role even at one of the vTFeKkmikr0-00651-00219683-00219796 earliest vTFeKkmikr0-00652-00219798-00220156 Santa conferences that were held vTFeKkmikr0-00653-00220157-00220577 now let's connect all of this with a vTFeKkmikr0-00654-00220578-00220834 celebrant of today professor vTFeKkmikr0-00655-00220835-00220973 Europe vTFeKkmikr0-00656-00220973-00221213 who also did his undergraduate studies vTFeKkmikr0-00657-00221214-00221341 at the vTFeKkmikr0-00658-00221342-00221663 University of Jos vTFeKkmikr0-00659-00221664-00222065 I mean yes University of Jos of course vTFeKkmikr0-00660-00222066-00222439 from Zaria a couple of people migrated vTFeKkmikr0-00661-00222440-00222689 including Professor you always are high vTFeKkmikr0-00662-00222690-00223042 to just and then of course there was a vTFeKkmikr0-00663-00223044-00223187 Sony OT vTFeKkmikr0-00664-00223188-00223379 in uh vTFeKkmikr0-00665-00223380-00223721 University of Jos and the professor sham vTFeKkmikr0-00666-00223721-00224003 sudden Mali vTFeKkmikr0-00667-00224004-00224410 because the the likes of Irene aguloye vTFeKkmikr0-00668-00224411-00224842 was also out there now out of all of vTFeKkmikr0-00669-00224844-00225058 these names that I've mentioned who are vTFeKkmikr0-00670-00225059-00225221 all involved in the theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00671-00225221-00225373 development vTFeKkmikr0-00672-00225373-00225748 Professor tall in Europe was a celebrant vTFeKkmikr0-00673-00225750-00226115 of today has actually extended the vTFeKkmikr0-00674-00226116-00226258 Frontiers vTFeKkmikr0-00675-00226259-00226529 having not only engage you know data for vTFeKkmikr0-00676-00226530-00226882 development but also as a a part of vTFeKkmikr0-00677-00226883-00227063 Applied theater vTFeKkmikr0-00678-00227064-00227315 to actually having interventionist vTFeKkmikr0-00679-00227316-00227489 programs vTFeKkmikr0-00680-00227490-00227746 and these International programs has vTFeKkmikr0-00681-00227748-00227927 been mentioned here vTFeKkmikr0-00682-00227928-00228203 you know he's put to good use his vast vTFeKkmikr0-00683-00228204-00228389 experience vTFeKkmikr0-00684-00228390-00228719 and has mentored many many young theater vTFeKkmikr0-00685-00228719-00229006 Scholars are made in delivery imprints vTFeKkmikr0-00686-00229007-00229223 in the Academia vTFeKkmikr0-00687-00229223-00229523 and of course in the founding and vTFeKkmikr0-00688-00229523-00229810 running of the youth adolescent vTFeKkmikr0-00689-00229811-00230087 reflection and action center vTFeKkmikr0-00690-00230088-00230427 yarak which he started in just vTFeKkmikr0-00691-00230428-00230603 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00692-00230604-00230903 of course I have always uh you know the vTFeKkmikr0-00693-00230904-00231089 opinion that the vTFeKkmikr0-00694-00231090-00231289 benue State vTFeKkmikr0-00695-00231290-00231551 Scholars of theater vTFeKkmikr0-00696-00231552-00231677 whether they're in theater for vTFeKkmikr0-00697-00231678-00231934 development or in general theater vTFeKkmikr0-00698-00231935-00232175 and I've included vTFeKkmikr0-00699-00232176-00232427 the late professor David Carr who was of vTFeKkmikr0-00700-00232428-00232642 course in the department of English vTFeKkmikr0-00701-00232644-00233015 Professor Ambassador High vTFeKkmikr0-00702-00233016-00233363 and then Professor sent ileka vTFeKkmikr0-00703-00233364-00233687 and then Professor charity and yeah vTFeKkmikr0-00704-00233688-00233908 and of course the president of Santa vTFeKkmikr0-00705-00233909-00234323 Professor dukigo won vTFeKkmikr0-00706-00234323-00234667 you know all of these people have vTFeKkmikr0-00707-00234667-00235192 extended the frontiers of Theater now I vTFeKkmikr0-00708-00235194-00235541 have always been of the view that if you vTFeKkmikr0-00709-00235542-00235721 are in theater you must also be part of vTFeKkmikr0-00710-00235721-00235984 what is going on in your community in vTFeKkmikr0-00711-00235985-00236167 your University vTFeKkmikr0-00712-00236167-00236608 and the benue state Scholars some of vTFeKkmikr0-00713-00236609-00236806 whom have mentioned Harry Hai sent vTFeKkmikr0-00714-00236807-00237053 billika charity angia vTFeKkmikr0-00715-00237054-00237623 dokie go on and of course our own vTFeKkmikr0-00716-00237623-00237808 this is not to forget of course Mr vTFeKkmikr0-00717-00237809-00238187 Richardson who was the cultural center vTFeKkmikr0-00718-00238188-00238439 in the makodi vTFeKkmikr0-00719-00238440-00238660 now what they have done is they've taken vTFeKkmikr0-00720-00238661-00238908 the theater into the administration vTFeKkmikr0-00721-00238909-00239182 and combine that also with the theater vTFeKkmikr0-00722-00239183-00239363 for development because I have always vTFeKkmikr0-00723-00239364-00239579 been of the view that whatever you do do vTFeKkmikr0-00724-00239580-00239867 not sit on defense do not allow other vTFeKkmikr0-00725-00239867-00240046 people to come and run vTFeKkmikr0-00726-00240048-00240310 Affairs for you you must be part of it vTFeKkmikr0-00727-00240311-00240431 you know if you're in a university vTFeKkmikr0-00728-00240432-00240760 system you must aspire to be dean of vTFeKkmikr0-00729-00240761-00240989 their faculty you must aspire to be vTFeKkmikr0-00730-00240990-00241175 Deputy Vice Chancellor you must aspire vTFeKkmikr0-00731-00241176-00241456 to be Vice Chancellor if possible and if vTFeKkmikr0-00732-00241457-00241619 you look at some of the names that I've vTFeKkmikr0-00733-00241619-00241894 mentioned especially Ambassador Harry vTFeKkmikr0-00734-00241896-00242105 Hai yo what's up vTFeKkmikr0-00735-00242106-00242401 now of course he has exemplified vTFeKkmikr0-00736-00242402-00242746 very strong theater background from the vTFeKkmikr0-00737-00242748-00243187 time of his publication on the a hill vTFeKkmikr0-00738-00243188-00243677 the the the theater among the benue vTFeKkmikr0-00739-00243678-00243881 you will also see that he's gone beyond vTFeKkmikr0-00740-00243882-00244192 that it's become a minister it's become vTFeKkmikr0-00741-00244194-00244444 an ambassador and all of these still vTFeKkmikr0-00742-00244446-00244679 while promoting vTFeKkmikr0-00743-00244680-00244853 uh theater vTFeKkmikr0-00744-00244854-00245082 you know which which is which he has vTFeKkmikr0-00745-00245083-00245489 done very well so of course our own vTFeKkmikr0-00746-00245490-00245771 Europe who I remember at one time apart vTFeKkmikr0-00747-00245771-00245981 from starting the Iraq vTFeKkmikr0-00748-00245982-00246244 he also did of course intimate us with vTFeKkmikr0-00749-00246246-00246479 his own vTFeKkmikr0-00750-00246480-00246905 ambition to be the governor of benue vTFeKkmikr0-00751-00246906-00247006 state vTFeKkmikr0-00752-00247007-00247360 and we all of course tried as much as we vTFeKkmikr0-00753-00247361-00247667 could to support it but anyway vTFeKkmikr0-00754-00247667-00247871 he didn't become governor of benue state vTFeKkmikr0-00755-00247871-00248087 but he landed the prestigious position vTFeKkmikr0-00756-00248088-00248332 of being Vice Chancellor of benue State vTFeKkmikr0-00757-00248333-00248471 University vTFeKkmikr0-00758-00248471-00248753 now if you look at what has gone on in vTFeKkmikr0-00759-00248754-00248998 benue State University that you will vTFeKkmikr0-00760-00249000-00249142 know that the theater people have vTFeKkmikr0-00761-00249144-00249292 actually captured vTFeKkmikr0-00762-00249294-00249581 the University Administration there vTFeKkmikr0-00763-00249582-00249910 I mean apart from David Carr who was the vTFeKkmikr0-00764-00249911-00250091 English background that was charity vTFeKkmikr0-00765-00250092-00250408 anger and now of course a professor told vTFeKkmikr0-00766-00250409-00250541 Europe vTFeKkmikr0-00767-00250542-00250931 now to focus some attention now vTFeKkmikr0-00768-00250932-00251206 since we have very few minutes is to vTFeKkmikr0-00769-00251207-00251482 look at the youth adolescence reflection vTFeKkmikr0-00770-00251483-00251765 and action center Yara vTFeKkmikr0-00771-00251766-00252121 which uh Professor told Europe who vTFeKkmikr0-00772-00252121-00252382 started which is a not-for-profit vTFeKkmikr0-00773-00252383-00252641 organization that he headquartered in vTFeKkmikr0-00774-00252642-00252773 just vTFeKkmikr0-00775-00252773-00253103 and the organization came into being at vTFeKkmikr0-00776-00253104-00253379 the end of uh some funding project by vTFeKkmikr0-00777-00253380-00253696 the MacArthur Foundation so he's not vTFeKkmikr0-00778-00253698-00253932 only gotten this in terms of vTFeKkmikr0-00779-00253933-00254201 participation of people in the theater vTFeKkmikr0-00780-00254202-00254453 is combined that with art is combined vTFeKkmikr0-00781-00254454-00254621 down with sports vTFeKkmikr0-00782-00254621-00254879 and the purpose of this program is to vTFeKkmikr0-00783-00254880-00255142 support persons in their mid careers vTFeKkmikr0-00784-00255144-00255329 through certain projects which could vTFeKkmikr0-00785-00255330-00255556 develop or enhance their leadership vTFeKkmikr0-00786-00255557-00255808 skills and qualities vTFeKkmikr0-00787-00255809-00256187 some of the interventionist positions as vTFeKkmikr0-00788-00256188-00256451 you know focused on conflict with vTFeKkmikr0-00789-00256452-00256703 prevention and peace building vTFeKkmikr0-00790-00256704-00256956 education and advocacy vTFeKkmikr0-00791-00256957-00257267 humanitarian Aid leadership and vTFeKkmikr0-00792-00257267-00257579 governance reproductive health and HIV vTFeKkmikr0-00793-00257580-00257855 AIDS research documentation and vTFeKkmikr0-00794-00257856-00258113 information determination and of course vTFeKkmikr0-00795-00258114-00258617 uh sustainable development goals vTFeKkmikr0-00796-00258617-00258880 our transparency and accountability and vTFeKkmikr0-00797-00258881-00259084 then youth entrepreneurship development vTFeKkmikr0-00798-00259085-00259229 initiative vTFeKkmikr0-00799-00259230-00259421 well let me vTFeKkmikr0-00800-00259421-00259684 conclude here by saluting our AIDS vTFeKkmikr0-00801-00259685-00259813 administrator vTFeKkmikr0-00802-00259814-00260075 who works with Grassroots theaters vTFeKkmikr0-00803-00260076-00260410 interested in using Art Theater and vTFeKkmikr0-00804-00260411-00260555 sports vTFeKkmikr0-00805-00260556-00260777 you know to overcome violence and vTFeKkmikr0-00806-00260778-00261106 tensions that are inherent within the vTFeKkmikr0-00807-00261107-00261389 community and all of that vTFeKkmikr0-00808-00261390-00261732 so he has wishing uh is vTFeKkmikr0-00809-00261733-00262019 administrator Professor told Joe in vTFeKkmikr0-00810-00262019-00262349 Europe a happy Diamond Jubilee and to vTFeKkmikr0-00811-00262350-00262571 wish him and his wife and his entire vTFeKkmikr0-00812-00262572-00262823 family the very best of these vTFeKkmikr0-00813-00262824-00264289 celebrations season I thank you all vTFeKkmikr0-00814-00264290-00265051 thank you very much vTFeKkmikr0-00815-00265052-00265360 thank you for the promotional vTFeKkmikr0-00816-00265361-00265693 because of time it will not take vTFeKkmikr0-00817-00265694-00266032 the random CPU vTFeKkmikr0-00818-00266033-00266184 and vTFeKkmikr0-00819-00266185-00266573 two people I've lost it one person vTFeKkmikr0-00820-00266574-00266913 the first hand I see vTFeKkmikr0-00821-00266914-00267132 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00822-00267133-00267380 for one minute vTFeKkmikr0-00823-00267381-00267497 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00824-00267498-00267653 going vTFeKkmikr0-00825-00267654-00267901 going vTFeKkmikr0-00826-00267902-00268079 gone vTFeKkmikr0-00827-00268080-00268499 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00828-00268500-00268997 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00829-00268998-00269267 we're taking a random boy thank you very vTFeKkmikr0-00830-00269268-00269405 much vTFeKkmikr0-00832-00272844-00273803 okay vTFeKkmikr0-00833-00273804-00275226 um vTFeKkmikr0-00834-00275227-00276413 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00835-00276414-00279389 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00836-00279390-00280607 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00837-00280608-00282328 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00838-00282329-00283080 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00839-00283081-00283649 from school vTFeKkmikr0-00840-00283650-00283967 you know that God thank you man for vTFeKkmikr0-00841-00283968-00284382 making this man who is today vTFeKkmikr0-00842-00284383-00284755 so I don't want to thank everybody vTFeKkmikr0-00843-00284756-00285125 to celebrate with my brother and wish vTFeKkmikr0-00844-00285126-00285347 him well I know there are still a lot of vTFeKkmikr0-00845-00285348-00287519 things vTFeKkmikr0-00846-00287520-00287784 again please vTFeKkmikr0-00847-00287785-00288101 do that now vTFeKkmikr0-00848-00288102-00288479 I'm sure we'll see how few more minutes vTFeKkmikr0-00849-00288480-00288599 yes vTFeKkmikr0-00850-00288600-00288929 um vTFeKkmikr0-00851-00288930-00289117 thank you vTFeKkmikr0-00852-00289118-00289315 very much vTFeKkmikr0-00853-00289316-00289721 good evening our fathers and mentors who vTFeKkmikr0-00854-00289722-00289858 are online vTFeKkmikr0-00855-00289859-00290134 and physically present to honor vTFeKkmikr0-00856-00290135-00290584 Professor top your vTFeKkmikr0-00857-00290585-00290849 um I just spent a few lines which I'll vTFeKkmikr0-00858-00290850-00291029 want to speak to vTFeKkmikr0-00859-00291030-00291437 we know he's the author of April 14 21. vTFeKkmikr0-00860-00291438-00291749 and from the inspiration garnered from vTFeKkmikr0-00861-00291750-00292056 that text I referred to Thor your Apple vTFeKkmikr0-00862-00292057-00292493 as the good foreman and Builder on the vTFeKkmikr0-00863-00292494-00292787 academic construction site vTFeKkmikr0-00864-00292788-00293069 through him we see that the struggle for vTFeKkmikr0-00865-00293070-00293434 Liberty is real in his works and as we vTFeKkmikr0-00866-00293435-00293656 hold this event today vTFeKkmikr0-00867-00293657-00294030 the centrality of vTFeKkmikr0-00868-00294031-00294227 linking vTFeKkmikr0-00869-00294228-00294551 the digital and the analog we are vTFeKkmikr0-00870-00294552-00294834 socially engaged theater is concerned vTFeKkmikr0-00871-00294835-00295260 becomes very real for us today vTFeKkmikr0-00872-00295261-00295637 I believe that there is no gain saying vTFeKkmikr0-00873-00295638-00296045 the stretching of the Frontiers as the vTFeKkmikr0-00874-00296046-00296321 speakers have told us here today and so vTFeKkmikr0-00875-00296322-00296710 whatever liberational ethics we see in vTFeKkmikr0-00876-00296711-00296987 the first shift I have not read it I vTFeKkmikr0-00877-00296988-00297275 believe will bear that forward-looking vTFeKkmikr0-00878-00297276-00297695 Arrow towards Bridging the experiences vTFeKkmikr0-00879-00297696-00298060 in the past the present ones and how vTFeKkmikr0-00880-00298061-00298397 they would coalesce to help the young vTFeKkmikr0-00881-00298398-00298775 ones to take charge of their Artistry as vTFeKkmikr0-00882-00298776-00299056 well as their citizenship vTFeKkmikr0-00883-00299057-00299434 I believe that for your Apple vTFeKkmikr0-00884-00299435-00299801 uh is someone the people can regard as vTFeKkmikr0-00885-00299802-00299923 their own vTFeKkmikr0-00886-00299924-00300437 uh I've experienced his work once mainly vTFeKkmikr0-00887-00300438-00300839 in just and as a good Foreman vTFeKkmikr0-00888-00300840-00301410 I see that that ever second script April vTFeKkmikr0-00889-00301411-00301871 1421 remains an insight into your vTFeKkmikr0-00890-00301872-00302141 Apple's deep-seated consciousness vTFeKkmikr0-00891-00302142-00302482 and as a celebrant today I would not vTFeKkmikr0-00892-00302483-00302863 want the Euphoria you know to Cloud vTFeKkmikr0-00893-00302864-00303197 whatever he needs to do vTFeKkmikr0-00894-00303198-00303797 from this point because young people vTFeKkmikr0-00895-00303798-00304055 and their race consciousness vTFeKkmikr0-00896-00304056-00304360 matter to development because the vTFeKkmikr0-00897-00304361-00304799 tomorrow of young people is now and so I vTFeKkmikr0-00898-00304800-00305080 joined your family to wish you Happy vTFeKkmikr0-00899-00305081-00305249 Birthday vTFeKkmikr0-00900-00305250-00305537 um the the last speaker took it from my vTFeKkmikr0-00901-00305538-00305789 mouth really that when you celebrate a vTFeKkmikr0-00902-00305790-00306095 man who has achieved a lot just look vTFeKkmikr0-00903-00306096-00306430 beside him not behind look beside him vTFeKkmikr0-00904-00306431-00306767 and see that formidable woman who has vTFeKkmikr0-00905-00306768-00307139 been able to make things work to make vTFeKkmikr0-00906-00307140-00307427 this man we are celebrating today a vTFeKkmikr0-00907-00307428-00307769 Shining Light may you be 70 may you be vTFeKkmikr0-00908-00307770-00308182 80 may you become a sanctuary in this vTFeKkmikr0-00909-00308183-00308484 Fair of this socially engaged theater vTFeKkmikr0-00910-00308485-00308806 and made that development never elude vTFeKkmikr0-00911-00308807-00309215 our young people happy birthday bro vTFeKkmikr0-00912-00309216-00309565 um vTFeKkmikr0-00913-00309566-00310654 thank you vTFeKkmikr0-00914-00310655-00310926 professors vTFeKkmikr0-00915-00310927-00312545 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00916-00312546-00312811 now vTFeKkmikr0-00917-00312812-00314986 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00918-00314987-00315767 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00919-00315768-00316172 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-00920-00316173-00317790 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00921-00317791-00319707 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00922-00319708-00320584 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00923-00320585-00320867 um good evening oh dear celebrant and vTFeKkmikr0-00924-00320868-00321065 the extinct guests vTFeKkmikr0-00925-00321066-00321401 and uh I want to thank each and every vTFeKkmikr0-00926-00321402-00321823 one of you for this lovely evening vTFeKkmikr0-00927-00321824-00322199 it's been quite an enriching session vTFeKkmikr0-00928-00322200-00322517 and it is it is indeed an honor vTFeKkmikr0-00929-00322518-00322751 to be asked to speak during this vTFeKkmikr0-00930-00322752-00323032 auspicious 60th birthday celebration vTFeKkmikr0-00931-00323033-00323341 of our dear friend Professor Todd Europe vTFeKkmikr0-00932-00323342-00323603 whom I have had the singular honor of vTFeKkmikr0-00933-00323604-00323851 knowing since 1989. vTFeKkmikr0-00934-00323852-00324017 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00935-00324018-00324239 um it was a very close mid cycle in vTFeKkmikr0-00936-00324240-00324580 those early days and everyone knew the vTFeKkmikr0-00937-00324581-00324851 next person and that was him that was vTFeKkmikr0-00938-00324852-00325103 extremely important in the practice of vTFeKkmikr0-00939-00325104-00325329 what we all referred to as theater vTFeKkmikr0-00940-00325330-00325499 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00941-00325500-00325703 um within the context of what I'm going vTFeKkmikr0-00942-00325704-00325997 to talk about this evening I want to say vTFeKkmikr0-00943-00325998-00326297 a special thank you and happy vTFeKkmikr0-00944-00326298-00326634 celebrations to Dr Nina Europe vTFeKkmikr0-00945-00326635-00327023 because if she had not provided the vTFeKkmikr0-00946-00327024-00327310 enabling environment for him to thrive vTFeKkmikr0-00947-00327311-00327527 he would not have become what he is vTFeKkmikr0-00948-00327528-00327904 today so a double congratulations vTFeKkmikr0-00949-00327905-00328169 and a happy celebrations to protector vTFeKkmikr0-00950-00328170-00328528 Europe and to Dr Mrs Nina Europe vTFeKkmikr0-00951-00328529-00328667 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-00952-00328668-00328991 I have been asked to speak on doing vTFeKkmikr0-00953-00328992-00329417 theater in different models for one goal vTFeKkmikr0-00954-00329418-00329747 it is indeed difficult to situate our vTFeKkmikr0-00955-00329748-00330127 celebrant under such a tight outline vTFeKkmikr0-00956-00330128-00330443 because in my estimation right from the vTFeKkmikr0-00957-00330444-00330730 very early days he took his foreign into vTFeKkmikr0-00958-00330731-00331080 the theater from a different perspective vTFeKkmikr0-00959-00331081-00331391 the productive entrepreneurial vTFeKkmikr0-00960-00331392-00331534 perspective vTFeKkmikr0-00961-00331535-00331849 which a lot of us actually Overlook vTFeKkmikr0-00962-00331850-00332123 especially because we believe vTFeKkmikr0-00963-00332124-00332423 that being an entrepreneur or in the vTFeKkmikr0-00964-00332424-00332632 late terminology being a theater vTFeKkmikr0-00965-00332633-00332963 premiere belongs only to the realm of vTFeKkmikr0-00966-00332964-00333263 the patent medicine retailer vTFeKkmikr0-00967-00333264-00333413 however vTFeKkmikr0-00968-00333414-00333634 in the 1990s vTFeKkmikr0-00969-00333635-00333863 theater was beginning to gain its vTFeKkmikr0-00970-00333864-00334013 rightful place within the scheme of vTFeKkmikr0-00971-00334014-00334165 national attention vTFeKkmikr0-00972-00334166-00334541 whereby it was being used to address and vTFeKkmikr0-00973-00334542-00334834 confront many issues affecting our daily vTFeKkmikr0-00974-00334835-00335129 existence as inhabitants of a third vTFeKkmikr0-00975-00335130-00335275 world nation vTFeKkmikr0-00976-00335276-00335579 devolving away from the strictly vTFeKkmikr0-00977-00335580-00335999 performing definition of an alawada vTFeKkmikr0-00978-00336000-00336365 or the comedian Baba Salah vTFeKkmikr0-00979-00336366-00336604 it was the era of the single mind vTFeKkmikr0-00980-00336605-00336934 mindset we had theater in the mode of vTFeKkmikr0-00981-00336935-00337217 theater for development was being used vTFeKkmikr0-00982-00337218-00337589 to address developmental issues that a vTFeKkmikr0-00983-00337590-00337867 lot of us were shying away from vTFeKkmikr0-00984-00337868-00338225 practitioners and I tend to refer to vTFeKkmikr0-00985-00338226-00338554 them as Pioneers people like Professor vTFeKkmikr0-00986-00338555-00338873 Abba Professor ni and in the in a vTFeKkmikr0-00987-00338874-00339365 younger mode professor yorapu vTFeKkmikr0-00988-00339366-00339713 like our celebrant they have been in the vTFeKkmikr0-00989-00339714-00340003 trenches using theater to educate vTFeKkmikr0-00990-00340004-00340330 entertain and highlight urgent issues vTFeKkmikr0-00991-00340331-00340504 deserving of attention vTFeKkmikr0-00992-00340505-00340817 I know for a fact that his organization vTFeKkmikr0-00993-00340818-00341123 Yara was in the Forefront of using vTFeKkmikr0-00994-00341124-00341441 theater to address the then dreaded HIV vTFeKkmikr0-00995-00341442-00341567 AIDS vTFeKkmikr0-00996-00341568-00341908 and it was indeed exciting times when vTFeKkmikr0-00997-00341909-00342089 you see our celebrant vTFeKkmikr0-00998-00342090-00342401 which is filmed knapsack hung on his vTFeKkmikr0-00999-00342402-00342743 back and you knew for sure that he was vTFeKkmikr0-01000-00342744-00342856 on the move vTFeKkmikr0-01001-00342857-00343127 and you know in those early days vTFeKkmikr0-01002-00343128-00343504 owning a laptop was a status symbol that vTFeKkmikr0-01003-00343505-00343799 will put you in the mode of a Bush's tea vTFeKkmikr0-01004-00343800-00344032 and he owned one vTFeKkmikr0-01005-00344033-00344284 and when I confronted him about this he vTFeKkmikr0-01006-00344285-00344441 said and I quote vTFeKkmikr0-01007-00344442-00344801 it is simply to make my work easier vTFeKkmikr0-01008-00344802-00345047 in the foot of development vTFeKkmikr0-01009-00345048-00345323 he was in the Forefront using theater as vTFeKkmikr0-01010-00345324-00345580 a means of elucidating and clarifying vTFeKkmikr0-01011-00345581-00345863 issues around our development vTFeKkmikr0-01012-00345864-00346139 as a nation coming out of the throes of vTFeKkmikr0-01013-00346140-00346301 a military dictatorship vTFeKkmikr0-01014-00346302-00346487 that Civil Society organizations vTFeKkmikr0-01015-00346488-00346756 including Iraq we are in the Forefront vTFeKkmikr0-01016-00346757-00347080 to see to his demise vTFeKkmikr0-01017-00347081-00347267 more importantly vTFeKkmikr0-01018-00347268-00347506 I would positive the fact that in those vTFeKkmikr0-01019-00347507-00347639 early days vTFeKkmikr0-01020-00347640-00347837 the one major model vTFeKkmikr0-01021-00347838-00348154 that our dear celebrant popularized was vTFeKkmikr0-01022-00348155-00348413 the model of sourcing for Grants to vTFeKkmikr0-01023-00348414-00348671 enable one work seamlessly and vTFeKkmikr0-01024-00348672-00348958 effortlessly with partners that gave the vTFeKkmikr0-01025-00348959-00349253 much needed financial means to work vTFeKkmikr0-01026-00349254-00349637 I would say that in this region and even vTFeKkmikr0-01027-00349638-00350027 to some extent on the national level vTFeKkmikr0-01028-00350028-00350299 Professor yorapu single-handedly vTFeKkmikr0-01029-00350300-00350615 popularized the then nascent MacArthur vTFeKkmikr0-01030-00350616-00350710 Foundation vTFeKkmikr0-01031-00350711-00350903 through the groundbreaking work that he vTFeKkmikr0-01032-00350904-00351089 did with them vTFeKkmikr0-01033-00351090-00351413 again we refer to the base that made vTFeKkmikr0-01034-00351414-00351760 this popular it was the theater vTFeKkmikr0-01035-00351761-00352084 using the theater he has also trained a vTFeKkmikr0-01036-00352085-00352247 generation of Future Leaders and vTFeKkmikr0-01037-00352248-00352547 academics who are significantly holding vTFeKkmikr0-01038-00352548-00352708 their own in their different areas of vTFeKkmikr0-01039-00352709-00352810 calling vTFeKkmikr0-01040-00352811-00353147 this first script is a strong Testament vTFeKkmikr0-01041-00353148-00353284 to this vTFeKkmikr0-01042-00353285-00353465 I would conclude vTFeKkmikr0-01043-00353466-00353747 that the outgoing 60 years have been vTFeKkmikr0-01044-00353748-00353999 years of fruitful Endeavors and vTFeKkmikr0-01045-00354000-00354280 Brilliant entrepreneurship using that vTFeKkmikr0-01046-00354281-00354623 singular ship we all refer to as theater vTFeKkmikr0-01047-00354624-00354893 but with Visionaries like our celebrant vTFeKkmikr0-01048-00354894-00355217 have elevated to an indelible part of vTFeKkmikr0-01049-00355218-00355534 our existence making theater relevant in vTFeKkmikr0-01050-00355535-00355769 all areas of endeavor vTFeKkmikr0-01051-00355770-00356027 we are eagerly looking forward to the vTFeKkmikr0-01052-00356028-00356458 years ahead and who knows perhaps our vTFeKkmikr0-01053-00356459-00356693 celebrant will be in the Forefront of a vTFeKkmikr0-01054-00356694-00356939 new generation of leaders that are their vTFeKkmikr0-01055-00356940-00357221 country so desperately needs vTFeKkmikr0-01056-00357222-00357460 happy years ahead Professor Europe vTFeKkmikr0-01057-00357461-00357701 and may God continue to strengthen you vTFeKkmikr0-01059-00362405-00363487 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-01060-00363488-00363965 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01061-00363966-00364243 because vTFeKkmikr0-01062-00364244-00364619 she's not vTFeKkmikr0-01063-00364620-00366737 she's not online vTFeKkmikr0-01064-00366738-00367104 um vTFeKkmikr0-01065-00367105-00367791 we are almost at the end of this session vTFeKkmikr0-01066-00367792-00368047 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01067-00368048-00368387 but we just go right on vTFeKkmikr0-01068-00368388-00368747 the next item vTFeKkmikr0-01069-00368748-00368951 is vTFeKkmikr0-01070-00368952-00369527 the response vTFeKkmikr0-01071-00369528-00370997 by myself vTFeKkmikr0-01072-00370998-00372265 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-01073-00372266-00372532 thank you very much vTFeKkmikr0-01074-00372533-00373030 messages vTFeKkmikr0-01075-00373031-00373220 yes vTFeKkmikr0-01076-00373221-00373775 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01077-00373776-00374180 shut up vTFeKkmikr0-01078-00374181-00374856 [Applause] vTFeKkmikr0-01079-00374857-00376243 pretty much vTFeKkmikr0-01080-00376244-00376848 uh yeah but it's nice vTFeKkmikr0-01081-00376849-00377195 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01082-00377196-00378959 foreign vTFeKkmikr0-01083-00378960-00379597 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01084-00379598-00379930 privilege and honor for me to vTFeKkmikr0-01085-00379931-00380189 to stand this vTFeKkmikr0-01086-00380190-00380423 afternoon vTFeKkmikr0-01087-00380424-00380795 to say a Goodwin message vTFeKkmikr0-01088-00380796-00381145 on behalf of the council Senate vTFeKkmikr0-01089-00381146-00381793 management staff and students vTFeKkmikr0-01090-00381794-00382073 I I believe vTFeKkmikr0-01091-00382074-00382408 that if I take a census vTFeKkmikr0-01092-00382409-00382727 and I'm going to do that vTFeKkmikr0-01093-00382728-00383148 that all staff of the University of jobs vTFeKkmikr0-01094-00383149-00383339 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01095-00383340-00383597 and oh vTFeKkmikr0-01096-00383598-00383951 everyone that does that is actually a vTFeKkmikr0-01097-00383952-00384137 great job vTFeKkmikr0-01098-00384138-00384967 to please stand up vTFeKkmikr0-01099-00384968-00385247 whether you have been a student or vTFeKkmikr0-01100-00385248-00385546 reading this because vTFeKkmikr0-01101-00385547-00386280 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01102-00386281-00386597 so thank you very much thank you very vTFeKkmikr0-01103-00386598-00387507 much thank you very much vTFeKkmikr0-01104-00387508-00387810 [Music] vTFeKkmikr0-01105-00387811-00388603 with your permission vTFeKkmikr0-01106-00388604-00388937 as you can see vTFeKkmikr0-01107-00388938-00389171 I believe that more than it has vTFeKkmikr0-01108-00389172-00389549 that are here that today are coming 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