GJLAFWzVsRy-00000-00000053-00000405 Cape Canaveral Air Force Station CCA FS GJLAFWzVsRy-00001-00000406-00000637 known as Cape Kennedy Air Force Station GJLAFWzVsRy-00002-00000638-00001029 from 1963 to 1973 is an installation of GJLAFWzVsRy-00003-00001030-00001207 the United States Air Force Space GJLAFWzVsRy-00004-00001208-00001531 command's 45th Space Wing CCA FS has GJLAFWzVsRy-00005-00001532-00001732 headquartered at the nearby Patrick Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00006-00001732-00001951 Force Base and located on Cape Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00007-00001952-00002344 in Brevard County Florida CCA FS the GJLAFWzVsRy-00008-00002345-00002542 station is the primary launch head of GJLAFWzVsRy-00009-00002543-00002722 America's eastern range with three GJLAFWzVsRy-00010-00002723-00002917 launch pads currently active space GJLAFWzVsRy-00011-00002918-00003381 launch complexes 37b 40 and 41 popularly GJLAFWzVsRy-00012-00003382-00003870 known as Cape Kennedy from 1963 to 1973 GJLAFWzVsRy-00013-00003871-00004356 and s Cape Canaveral from 1949 to 1963 GJLAFWzVsRy-00014-00004357-00004593 and from 1973 to the present the GJLAFWzVsRy-00015-00004594-00004809 facility is south southeast of NASA's GJLAFWzVsRy-00016-00004810-00005020 Kennedy Space Center on adjacent Merritt GJLAFWzVsRy-00017-00005021-00005202 Island with the two linked by bridges GJLAFWzVsRy-00018-00005203-00005466 and cosway's the Cape Canaveral Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00019-00005467-00005673 Force Station skid strip provides a GJLAFWzVsRy-00020-00005674-00005952 10,000 foot 3,000 meters runway close to GJLAFWzVsRy-00021-00005953-00006123 the launch complexes for military GJLAFWzVsRy-00022-00006124-00006330 airlift aircraft delivering heavy and GJLAFWzVsRy-00023-00006331-00006639 outsized payloads to the Cape a number GJLAFWzVsRy-00024-00006640-00006870 of American space exploration pioneers GJLAFWzVsRy-00025-00006871-00007134 were launched from CCA FS including the GJLAFWzVsRy-00026-00007136-00007434 first US Earth satellite in 1958 first GJLAFWzVsRy-00027-00007436-00007795 u.s. astronaut 1961 first u.s. astronaut GJLAFWzVsRy-00028-00007795-00008095 in orbit 1962 first two-man u.s. GJLAFWzVsRy-00029-00008095-00008419 spacecraft 1965 first u.s. unmanned GJLAFWzVsRy-00030-00008420-00008734 lunar landing 1966 and first three-man GJLAFWzVsRy-00031-00008735-00009102 u.s. spacecraft 1968 it was also the GJLAFWzVsRy-00032-00009103-00009246 launch site for all of the first GJLAFWzVsRy-00033-00009247-00009477 spacecraft to separately fly past each GJLAFWzVsRy-00034-00009478-00009777 of the planets in the solar system 1962 GJLAFWzVsRy-00035-00009778-00010066 to 1977 the first spacecraft to orbit GJLAFWzVsRy-00036-00010067-00010503 Mars 1971 and row mid-surface 1996 the GJLAFWzVsRy-00037-00010504-00010726 first American spacecraft to orbit and GJLAFWzVsRy-00038-00010727-00011020 land on Venus 1978 the first spacecraft GJLAFWzVsRy-00039-00011021-00011355 to orbit Saturn 2004 into orbit mercury GJLAFWzVsRy-00040-00011356-00011613 2011 and the first spacecraft to leave GJLAFWzVsRy-00041-00011614-00011973 the solar system 1977 portions of the GJLAFWzVsRy-00042-00011974-00012159 base have been designated a national GJLAFWzVsRy-00043-00012160-00012378 historic landmark for their association GJLAFWzVsRy-00044-00012379-00012541 with the early years of the American GJLAFWzVsRy-00045-00012542-00012991 space program GJLAFWzVsRy-00046-00012992-00013422 topic history GJLAFWzVsRy-00047-00013422-00013719 the CCA FS area had been used by the GJLAFWzVsRy-00048-00013719-00013896 United States government to test GJLAFWzVsRy-00049-00013897-00014183 missiles since 1949 when president harry GJLAFWzVsRy-00050-00014184-00014330 s truman established the joint GJLAFWzVsRy-00051-00014331-00014525 long-range proving ground at cape GJLAFWzVsRy-00052-00014526-00014783 canaveral the location was among the GJLAFWzVsRy-00053-00014784-00014946 best in the continental United States GJLAFWzVsRy-00054-00014947-00015147 for this purpose as it allowed for GJLAFWzVsRy-00055-00015147-00015336 lunches out over the Atlantic Ocean and GJLAFWzVsRy-00056-00015337-00015536 is closer to the equator than most other GJLAFWzVsRy-00057-00015537-00015719 parts of the united states allowing GJLAFWzVsRy-00058-00015720-00015891 rockets to get a boost from the Earth's GJLAFWzVsRy-00059-00015891-00016230 rotation GJLAFWzVsRy-00060-00016231-00016792 topic air force proving ground GJLAFWzVsRy-00061-00016793-00017158 On June 1st 1948 the United States Navy GJLAFWzVsRy-00062-00017159-00017338 transferred the former Banana River GJLAFWzVsRy-00063-00017339-00017559 Naval Air Station to the United States GJLAFWzVsRy-00064-00017560-00017752 Air Force with the Air Force renaming GJLAFWzVsRy-00065-00017753-00017938 the facility the joint long-range GJLAFWzVsRy-00066-00017939-00018267 proving ground jl RPG base on June 10th GJLAFWzVsRy-00067-00018268-00018727 1949 on October 1st 1949 the joint GJLAFWzVsRy-00068-00018728-00018925 long-range proving ground base was GJLAFWzVsRy-00069-00018926-00019078 transferred from the air Materiel GJLAFWzVsRy-00070-00019079-00019131 Command GJLAFWzVsRy-00071-00019132-00019300 to the air force division of the joint GJLAFWzVsRy-00072-00019301-00019611 long-range proving ground on May 17th GJLAFWzVsRy-00073-00019612-00019884 1950 the base was renamed the long-range GJLAFWzVsRy-00074-00019885-00020077 proving ground base but three months GJLAFWzVsRy-00075-00020078-00020292 later was renamed Patrick Air Force Base GJLAFWzVsRy-00076-00020293-00020661 in honor of Army Maj Gen Mason Patrick GJLAFWzVsRy-00077-00020662-00020971 in 1951 the Air Force established the GJLAFWzVsRy-00078-00020972-00021244 air force missile test center early GJLAFWzVsRy-00079-00021245-00021486 American sub-orbital rocket flights were GJLAFWzVsRy-00080-00021487-00021847 achieved at Cape Canaveral in 1956 these GJLAFWzVsRy-00081-00021848-00022008 flights occurred shortly after GJLAFWzVsRy-00082-00022009-00022203 suborbital flights launched from White GJLAFWzVsRy-00083-00022204-00022417 Sands Missile Range such as the Viking GJLAFWzVsRy-00084-00022418-00022803 12 sounding rocket on February 4th 1955 GJLAFWzVsRy-00085-00022804-00023070 following the Soviet Union's successful GJLAFWzVsRy-00086-00023071-00023353 Sputnik 1 launched on October 4th 1957 GJLAFWzVsRy-00087-00023354-00023599 the United States attempted its first GJLAFWzVsRy-00088-00023600-00023790 launch of an artificial satellite from GJLAFWzVsRy-00089-00023791-00024102 Cape Canaveral on December 6 1957 GJLAFWzVsRy-00090-00024103-00024417 however the rocket carrying Vanguard tv3 GJLAFWzVsRy-00091-00024418-00024664 exploded on the launch pad nasa was GJLAFWzVsRy-00092-00024665-00024928 founded in 1958 and airforce crews GJLAFWzVsRy-00093-00024929-00025117 launched missiles for nasa from the Cape GJLAFWzVsRy-00094-00025118-00025300 known then as Cape Canaveral missile GJLAFWzVsRy-00095-00025301-00025618 annex Redstone Jupiter Pershing 1 GJLAFWzVsRy-00096-00025619-00025893 Pershing 1a Pershing 2 Polaris Thor GJLAFWzVsRy-00097-00025894-00026118 Atlas tighten and Minuteman missiles GJLAFWzVsRy-00098-00026119-00026302 were all tested from the site the Thor GJLAFWzVsRy-00099-00026302-00026493 becoming the basis for the expendable GJLAFWzVsRy-00100-00026494-00026745 launch vehicle a lv delta rocket which GJLAFWzVsRy-00101-00026747-00027139 launched Telstar 1 in july 1962 the row GJLAFWzVsRy-00102-00027139-00027670 of Titan LC 15 16 19 20 an Atlas LC 11 GJLAFWzVsRy-00103-00027670-00027973 12 13 14 launch pads along the coast GJLAFWzVsRy-00104-00027974-00028156 came to be known as missile ro in the GJLAFWzVsRy-00105-00028157-00028531 1960s GJLAFWzVsRy-00106-00028532-00029062 topic project mercury GJLAFWzVsRy-00107-00029063-00029332 NASA's first manned spaceflight program GJLAFWzVsRy-00108-00029333-00029514 was prepared for launch from Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00109-00029516-00029797 by US Air Force crews Mercury's GJLAFWzVsRy-00110-00029798-00029956 objectives were to place a manned GJLAFWzVsRy-00111-00029957-00030177 spacecraft in Earth orbit investigate GJLAFWzVsRy-00112-00030179-00030361 human performance and ability to GJLAFWzVsRy-00113-00030362-00030583 function in space and safely recover the GJLAFWzVsRy-00114-00030583-00030862 astronaut in spacecraft suborbital GJLAFWzVsRy-00115-00030863-00031051 flights were launched by derivatives of GJLAFWzVsRy-00116-00031052-00031314 the Army's redstone missile from lc5 two GJLAFWzVsRy-00117-00031316-00031516 such flights were made by Alan Shepard GJLAFWzVsRy-00118-00031517-00031819 on may 5th 1961 and Gus Grissom on July GJLAFWzVsRy-00119-00031820-00032122 21st orbital flights were launched by GJLAFWzVsRy-00120-00032123-00032329 derivatives of the air force's larger GJLAFWzVsRy-00121-00032330-00032656 Atlas D missile from LC 14 the first GJLAFWzVsRy-00122-00032657-00032866 American in orbit was John Glenn On GJLAFWzVsRy-00123-00032867-00033277 February 20th 1962 three more orbital GJLAFWzVsRy-00124-00033278-00033652 flights followed through May 1963 flight GJLAFWzVsRy-00125-00033653-00033847 control for all mercury missions was GJLAFWzVsRy-00126-00033848-00034045 provided at the mercury control center GJLAFWzVsRy-00127-00034046-00034609 located at Canaveral near LC 14 GJLAFWzVsRy-00128-00034610-00035106 topic temporary name change GJLAFWzVsRy-00129-00035107-00035487 on November 29 1963 following the death GJLAFWzVsRy-00130-00035488-00035676 of President John F Kennedy his GJLAFWzVsRy-00131-00035677-00035880 successor lyndon b johnson issued GJLAFWzVsRy-00132-00035881-00036270 executive order 11110 t9 renaming both GJLAFWzVsRy-00133-00036271-00036489 nasa's merritt island launch operations GJLAFWzVsRy-00134-00036490-00036729 center in the facilities of station GJLAFWzVsRy-00135-00036730-00036912 number one of the atlantic Missile Range GJLAFWzVsRy-00136-00036913-00037317 a reference to Canaveral AFB as the John GJLAFWzVsRy-00137-00037318-00037503 F Kennedy Space Center GJLAFWzVsRy-00138-00037504-00037791 he had also convinced Gulf seafarers GJLAFWzVsRy-00139-00037792-00038016 Bryant D Florida to change the name of GJLAFWzVsRy-00140-00038017-00038265 Cape Canaveral to Cape Kennedy this GJLAFWzVsRy-00141-00038266-00038475 resulted in some confusion in public GJLAFWzVsRy-00142-00038476-00038763 perception which conflated the two NASA GJLAFWzVsRy-00143-00038764-00039006 Administrator James E Webb clarified GJLAFWzVsRy-00144-00039007-00039204 this by issuing a directive stating the GJLAFWzVsRy-00145-00039205-00039393 Kennedy Space Center name applied only GJLAFWzVsRy-00146-00039394-00039579 to Merritt Island while the Air Force GJLAFWzVsRy-00147-00039580-00039786 issued a general order renaming the Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00148-00039787-00039981 Force Station launch site Cape Kennedy GJLAFWzVsRy-00149-00039982-00040260 Air Force Station this name was used GJLAFWzVsRy-00150-00040261-00040431 through the Gemini and early Apollo GJLAFWzVsRy-00151-00040432-00040785 programs however the geographical name GJLAFWzVsRy-00152-00040786-00041013 change proved to be unpopular owing to GJLAFWzVsRy-00153-00041014-00041181 the historical longevity of Cape GJLAFWzVsRy-00154-00041182-00041385 Canaveral one of the oldest place names GJLAFWzVsRy-00155-00041386-00041595 in the United States dating to the early GJLAFWzVsRy-00156-00041596-00042036 1500s in 1973 both the Air Force Base GJLAFWzVsRy-00157-00042037-00042222 and the geographical Cape names were GJLAFWzVsRy-00158-00042223-00042414 reverted to Canaveral after the floor of GJLAFWzVsRy-00159-00042415-00042609 the Legislature passed a bill changing GJLAFWzVsRy-00160-00042610-00042768 the name back that was signed into law GJLAFWzVsRy-00161-00042769-00043254 by Florida Governor Ruben askew GJLAFWzVsRy-00162-00043255-00043839 topic Gemini and early Apollo GJLAFWzVsRy-00163-00043840-00044090 the two-man Gemini spacecraft was GJLAFWzVsRy-00164-00044091-00044277 launched into orbit by a derivative of GJLAFWzVsRy-00165-00044278-00044535 the air force Titan two missile 12 GJLAFWzVsRy-00166-00044536-00044796 Gemini flights were launched from LC 19 GJLAFWzVsRy-00167-00044797-00045033 ten of which were manned the first GJLAFWzVsRy-00168-00045034-00045270 manned flight Gemini 3 took place on GJLAFWzVsRy-00169-00045271-00045507 March 23rd 1965 GJLAFWzVsRy-00170-00045508-00045762 later Gemini flights were supported by GJLAFWzVsRy-00171-00045763-00045968 seven unmanned launches of the Agena GJLAFWzVsRy-00172-00045969-00046196 target vehicle on the Atlas Aegina from GJLAFWzVsRy-00173-00046197-00046458 LC 14 to develop rendezvous and docking GJLAFWzVsRy-00174-00046459-00046758 critical for Apollo two of the Atlas GJLAFWzVsRy-00175-00046759-00046968 Aegina vehicles failed to reach orbit on GJLAFWzVsRy-00176-00046969-00047237 Gemini 6 and Gemini 9 and am is rigging GJLAFWzVsRy-00177-00047238-00047427 of the nose cone on a third caused it to GJLAFWzVsRy-00178-00047428-00047595 fail to eject in orbit preventing GJLAFWzVsRy-00179-00047596-00047904 docking on Gemini 9a the final flight GJLAFWzVsRy-00180-00047905-00048287 Gemini 12 launched on November 11th 1966 GJLAFWzVsRy-00181-00048288-00048573 the capabilities of the mercury control GJLAFWzVsRy-00182-00048574-00048746 center were inadequate for the flight GJLAFWzVsRy-00183-00048747-00048971 control needs of Gemini and Apollo GJLAFWzVsRy-00184-00048972-00049143 so NASA built and improved Mission GJLAFWzVsRy-00185-00049144-00049431 Control Center in 1963 which had decided GJLAFWzVsRy-00186-00049432-00049602 to locate at the newly built manned GJLAFWzVsRy-00187-00049603-00049773 spacecraft Center in Houston Texas GJLAFWzVsRy-00188-00049774-00049980 rather than a Canaveral or at the GJLAFWzVsRy-00189-00049981-00050192 Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland GJLAFWzVsRy-00190-00050193-00050487 the Apollo program's goal of landing a GJLAFWzVsRy-00191-00050488-00050696 man on the moon required development of GJLAFWzVsRy-00192-00050697-00050976 the Saturn family of rockets the large GJLAFWzVsRy-00193-00050977-00051233 Saturn V rocket necessary to take men to GJLAFWzVsRy-00194-00051234-00051407 the moon required a larger launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00195-00051408-00051588 facility than Cape Canaveral could GJLAFWzVsRy-00196-00051589-00051789 provide so NASA built the kennedy space GJLAFWzVsRy-00197-00051790-00051977 center located west and north of GJLAFWzVsRy-00198-00051978-00052212 Canaveral on Merritt Island but the GJLAFWzVsRy-00199-00052213-00052446 earlier Saturn I a nibble on CH trim the GJLAFWzVsRy-00200-00052447-00052797 capes launch complexes 34 and 37 the GJLAFWzVsRy-00201-00052798-00052953 first for Saturn eye development GJLAFWzVsRy-00202-00052954-00053238 launches were made from LC 34 between GJLAFWzVsRy-00203-00053239-00053816 october 27 1961 and march 28 1963 these GJLAFWzVsRy-00204-00053817-00054003 were followed by the final test launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00205-00054004-00054309 and five operational launches from LC 37 GJLAFWzVsRy-00206-00054310-00054710 between January 29 1964 and July 30th GJLAFWzVsRy-00207-00054711-00055062 1965 the saturn nib operated the GJLAFWzVsRy-00208-00055063-00055269 capability of the saturn eye so that it GJLAFWzVsRy-00209-00055270-00055461 could be used for earth orbital tests of GJLAFWzVsRy-00210-00055462-00055764 the apollo spacecraft two unmanned test GJLAFWzVsRy-00211-00055765-00055932 launches of the Apollo command/service GJLAFWzVsRy-00212-00055933-00056373 module CSM as 201 and as 202 were made GJLAFWzVsRy-00213-00056374-00056732 from LC 34 and an unmanned flight as 203 GJLAFWzVsRy-00214-00056733-00056916 to test the behavior of upper stage GJLAFWzVsRy-00215-00056916-00057191 liquid hydrogen fuel in orbit from LC 3 GJLAFWzVsRy-00216-00057192-00057467 seven between February 26th and August GJLAFWzVsRy-00217-00057469-00057924 25th 1966 the first man CSM flight as GJLAFWzVsRy-00218-00057925-00058205 204 or Apollo 1 was planned to launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00219-00058207-00058659 from LC 34 On February 21st 1967 but the GJLAFWzVsRy-00220-00058660-00058863 entire crew of Gus Grissom ed white and GJLAFWzVsRy-00221-00058864-00059069 Roger Chaffee were killed in a cabin GJLAFWzVsRy-00222-00059070-00059340 fire during a spacecraft test on pad 34 GJLAFWzVsRy-00223-00059341-00059882 On January 27 1967 the s 204 rocket was GJLAFWzVsRy-00224-00059883-00060032 used to launch the unmanned earth GJLAFWzVsRy-00225-00060033-00060242 orbital first test flight of the Apollo GJLAFWzVsRy-00226-00060244-00060585 lunar module Apollo 5 from LC 37 On GJLAFWzVsRy-00227-00060586-00061011 January 22nd 1968 after significant GJLAFWzVsRy-00228-00061012-00061169 safety improvements were made to the GJLAFWzVsRy-00229-00061170-00061407 command module Apollo 7 was launched GJLAFWzVsRy-00230-00061408-00061659 from LC 34 to fulfill Apollo one's GJLAFWzVsRy-00231-00061660-00061974 mission using Saturn IBAs 205 on October GJLAFWzVsRy-00232-00061975-00062516 11th 1968 in 1972 NASA deactivated both GJLAFWzVsRy-00233-00062517-00062946 LC 34 in LC 37 it briefly considered GJLAFWzVsRy-00234-00062947-00063111 reactivating both for Apollo GJLAFWzVsRy-00235-00063112-00063336 applications program launches after the GJLAFWzVsRy-00236-00063337-00063554 end of Apollo but instead modified the GJLAFWzVsRy-00237-00063555-00063765 Kennedy Space Center launch complex to GJLAFWzVsRy-00238-00063766-00063944 handle the Saturn Knibb for the Skylab GJLAFWzVsRy-00239-00063945-00064182 and apollo-soyuz test project launches GJLAFWzVsRy-00240-00064183-00064497 the LC 34 service structure and GJLAFWzVsRy-00241-00064498-00064701 umbilical tower were raised leaving only GJLAFWzVsRy-00242-00064702-00064878 the concrete launch pedestal as a GJLAFWzVsRy-00243-00064879-00065294 monument to the Apollo 1 crew in 2001 LC GJLAFWzVsRy-00244-00065295-00065523 37 was recommissioned and converted to GJLAFWzVsRy-00245-00065524-00066000 service Delta 4 launch vehicles GJLAFWzVsRy-00246-00066001-00066547 topic subsequent activity GJLAFWzVsRy-00247-00066548-00066772 the Air Force chose to expand the GJLAFWzVsRy-00248-00066773-00066928 capabilities of the Titan launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00249-00066929-00067143 vehicles for its heavy lift capabilities GJLAFWzVsRy-00250-00067144-00067393 the Air Force constructed launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00251-00067394-00067690 complexes 40 and 41 to launch Titan 3 GJLAFWzVsRy-00252-00067691-00067891 and Titan IV rockets just south of GJLAFWzVsRy-00253-00067892-00068212 Kennedy Space Center a Titan 3 has about GJLAFWzVsRy-00254-00068213-00068428 the same payload capacity as the Saturn GJLAFWzVsRy-00255-00068429-00068662 AB at a considerable cost savings Launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00256-00068663-00068911 Complex 40 and 41 have been used to GJLAFWzVsRy-00257-00068912-00069049 launch defense reconnaissance GJLAFWzVsRy-00258-00069050-00069253 communications and weather satellites GJLAFWzVsRy-00259-00069254-00069525 and NASA planetary missions the Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00260-00069526-00069721 Force also planned to launch two Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00261-00069722-00069991 Force manned space projects from LC 40 GJLAFWzVsRy-00262-00069992-00070297 and 41 they were the dinosaur a manned GJLAFWzVsRy-00263-00070298-00070626 orbital rocket plane canceled in 1963 in GJLAFWzVsRy-00264-00070627-00070891 the USAF manned orbital laboratory Mol GJLAFWzVsRy-00265-00070892-00071100 am and reconnaissance space station GJLAFWzVsRy-00266-00071101-00071587 canceled in 1969 from 1974 to 1977 the GJLAFWzVsRy-00267-00071588-00071787 powerful Titan Center became the new GJLAFWzVsRy-00268-00071788-00071994 heavy lift vehicle for NASA launching GJLAFWzVsRy-00269-00071995-00072162 the Viking and Voyager series of GJLAFWzVsRy-00270-00072163-00072423 spacecraft from launch complex 41 GJLAFWzVsRy-00271-00072424-00072742 Complex 41 later became the launch site GJLAFWzVsRy-00272-00072743-00072973 for the most powerful unmanned us rocket GJLAFWzVsRy-00273-00072974-00073171 the Titan IV developed by the Air Force GJLAFWzVsRy-00274-00073172-00073390 with increased use of a leased launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00275-00073391-00073638 pad by private company SpaceX the Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00276-00073639-00073840 Force launched support operations at the GJLAFWzVsRy-00277-00073841-00074050 Cape are planning for 21 launches in GJLAFWzVsRy-00278-00074051-00074149 2014 GJLAFWzVsRy-00279-00074150-00074493 a 50% increase over the 2013 launch rate GJLAFWzVsRy-00280-00074494-00074767 SpaceX has reservations for a total of GJLAFWzVsRy-00281-00074768-00075016 10 of those launches in 2014 with an GJLAFWzVsRy-00282-00075017-00075423 option for an 11th GJLAFWzVsRy-00283-00075424-00075675 topic unmanned launches at Cape GJLAFWzVsRy-00284-00075676-00076063 Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00285-00076064-00076294 the first united states satellite GJLAFWzVsRy-00286-00076295-00076492 launched Explorer one was made by the GJLAFWzVsRy-00287-00076493-00076693 army ballistic missile agency on GJLAFWzVsRy-00288-00076694-00077056 February 1st 1958 UTC from canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00289-00077057-00077425 zell c26 a using a juno i - 29 rupees GJLAFWzVsRy-00290-00077426-00077740 missile nasa's first launch pioneer 1 GJLAFWzVsRy-00291-00077741-00077962 came on october 11th of the same year GJLAFWzVsRy-00292-00077963-00078297 from l c-17 a using a thor able rocket GJLAFWzVsRy-00293-00078298-00078607 besides project Gemini the Atlas Aegina GJLAFWzVsRy-00294-00078608-00078934 launch complexes LC 12 and LC 13 were GJLAFWzVsRy-00295-00078935-00079174 used during the 1960's for the unmanned GJLAFWzVsRy-00296-00079175-00079405 Ranger and lunar orbiter programs in the GJLAFWzVsRy-00297-00079406-00079626 first five mariner interplanetary probes GJLAFWzVsRy-00298-00079627-00080011 the Atlas Center launch complex LC 36 GJLAFWzVsRy-00299-00080012-00080230 was used for the 1960's surveyor GJLAFWzVsRy-00300-00080231-00080440 unmanned lunar landing program in the GJLAFWzVsRy-00301-00080441-00080757 last five mariner probes through 1973 GJLAFWzVsRy-00302-00080758-00081058 nasa has also launched communications GJLAFWzVsRy-00303-00081059-00081214 and weather satellites from launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00304-00081215-00081481 complexes 40 and 41 built at the north GJLAFWzVsRy-00305-00081482-00081736 end of the Cape in 1964 by the air force GJLAFWzVsRy-00306-00081737-00082053 for its titan iiic and Titan IV rockets GJLAFWzVsRy-00307-00082054-00082543 from 1974 to 1977 the powerful Titan III GJLAFWzVsRy-00308-00082544-00082780 II served as the heavy lift vehicle for GJLAFWzVsRy-00309-00082781-00082957 NASA launching the Viking and Voyager GJLAFWzVsRy-00310-00082958-00083206 series of planetary spacecraft and the GJLAFWzVsRy-00311-00083207-00083529 cassini-huygens Saturn probe from LC 41 GJLAFWzVsRy-00312-00083530-00083797 three cape canaveral pads are currently GJLAFWzVsRy-00313-00083798-00084037 operated by NASA and private industry GJLAFWzVsRy-00314-00084038-00084328 for civilian launches SLC 41 for the GJLAFWzVsRy-00315-00084329-00084652 Atlas V and SLC three 7b for the Delta 4 GJLAFWzVsRy-00316-00084653-00084856 both for United Launch Alliance heavy GJLAFWzVsRy-00317-00084857-00085156 payloads and SLC 40 for SpaceX Falcon 9 GJLAFWzVsRy-00318-00085157-00085333 launches to the International Space GJLAFWzVsRy-00319-00085334-00085653 Station NASA's launch services program GJLAFWzVsRy-00320-00085654-00085933 LSP is responsible for oversight of GJLAFWzVsRy-00321-00085934-00086110 launch operations and countdown GJLAFWzVsRy-00322-00086111-00086314 management for all unmanned launches at GJLAFWzVsRy-00323-00086315-00086835 Cape Canaveral which it does not operate GJLAFWzVsRy-00324-00086836-00087372 topic bowing x-37b GJLAFWzVsRy-00325-00087373-00087701 the Boeing x-37b a reusable unmanned GJLAFWzVsRy-00326-00087702-00087981 spacecraft operated by USAF which is GJLAFWzVsRy-00327-00087982-00088191 also known as the 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GJLAFWzVsRy-00341-00092035-00092288 which was originally designed for Space GJLAFWzVsRy-00342-00092289-00092851 Shuttle return from orbit operations GJLAFWzVsRy-00343-00092852-00093314 topic facilities GJLAFWzVsRy-00344-00093315-00093629 of the launch complexes built since 1950 GJLAFWzVsRy-00345-00093630-00093821 several have been leased and modified GJLAFWzVsRy-00346-00093822-00094051 for use by private aerospace companies GJLAFWzVsRy-00347-00094052-00094430 launch complex SLC 17 was used for the GJLAFWzVsRy-00348-00094431-00094651 Delta 2 heavy variant through 2011 GJLAFWzVsRy-00349-00094652-00095147 launch complexes SLC 37 and SLC 41 were GJLAFWzVsRy-00350-00095148-00095399 modified to launch EE LV Delta 4 and GJLAFWzVsRy-00351-00095400-00095627 Atlas V launch vehicles respectively GJLAFWzVsRy-00352-00095628-00095888 these launch vehicles replaced all GJLAFWzVsRy-00353-00095889-00096139 earlier Delta Atlas and Titan Rockets GJLAFWzVsRy-00354-00096140-00096518 launch complex SLC 47 is used to launch GJLAFWzVsRy-00355-00096519-00096827 weather sounding rockets launch complex GJLAFWzVsRy-00356-00096828-00097145 SLC 46 is reserved for use by space GJLAFWzVsRy-00357-00097146-00097466 Florida Launch Complex SLC 40 hosted the GJLAFWzVsRy-00358-00097467-00097688 first launch of the SpaceX Falcon 9 in GJLAFWzVsRy-00359-00097689-00098024 June 2010 Falcon 9 launch is continued GJLAFWzVsRy-00360-00098025-00098222 from this complex through 2015 GJLAFWzVsRy-00361-00098223-00098411 consisting of unmanned commercial GJLAFWzVsRy-00362-00098412-00098630 resupply services missions for NASA to GJLAFWzVsRy-00363-00098631-00098816 the international space station as well GJLAFWzVsRy-00364-00098817-00099122 as commercial satellite flights SpaceX GJLAFWzVsRy-00365-00099123-00099392 has also leased launch complex 39a from GJLAFWzVsRy-00366-00099393-00099614 NASA and has completed modifying it to GJLAFWzVsRy-00367-00099615-00099818 accommodate Falcon Heavy and Commercial GJLAFWzVsRy-00368-00099819-00099992 Crew manned space flights to the ISS GJLAFWzVsRy-00369-00099993-00100220 with their crew Dragon spacecraft in GJLAFWzVsRy-00370-00100221-00100685 2018 or 2019 SpaceX landing zone 1 & 2 GJLAFWzVsRy-00371-00100686-00100922 used to land first stages of the Falcon GJLAFWzVsRy-00372-00100923-00101114 9 and the side boosters of the Falcon GJLAFWzVsRy-00373-00101115-00101294 Heavy are located at the site of the GJLAFWzVsRy-00374-00101295-00101777 former L c-13 on September 16 2015 NASA GJLAFWzVsRy-00375-00101778-00101969 announced that Blue Origin has leased GJLAFWzVsRy-00376-00101970-00102239 launch complex 36 and will modify it as GJLAFWzVsRy-00377-00102240-00102395 a launch site for their next generation GJLAFWzVsRy-00378-00102396-00102619 launch vehicles in the case of low GJLAFWzVsRy-00379-00102620-00102857 inclination geostationary launches the GJLAFWzVsRy-00380-00102858-00103127 location of the area at 28 degrees 27 GJLAFWzVsRy-00381-00103128-00103258 and put it at a slight disadvantage GJLAFWzVsRy-00382-00103259-00103529 against other launch facilities situated GJLAFWzVsRy-00383-00103530-00103802 near the equator the boost eastward from GJLAFWzVsRy-00384-00103803-00104072 the Earth's rotation as about 406 meters GJLAFWzVsRy-00385-00104073-00104357 per second 908 miles per hour at Cape GJLAFWzVsRy-00386-00104358-00104417 Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00387-00104418-00104849 but 463 meters per second 1035 miles per GJLAFWzVsRy-00388-00104850-00105085 hour at the European Guiana Space Center GJLAFWzVsRy-00389-00105086-00105272 in French Guiana in the case of high GJLAFWzVsRy-00390-00105273-00105503 inclination polar launches the latitude GJLAFWzVsRy-00391-00105504-00105677 does not matter but the Cape Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00392-00105678-00105920 area is not suitable because inhabited GJLAFWzVsRy-00393-00105921-00106066 areas underlie these trajectories GJLAFWzVsRy-00394-00106067-00106331 Vandenberg Air Force Base Cape Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00395-00106332-00106544 West Coast counterpart or the smaller GJLAFWzVsRy-00396-00106545-00106691 Kodiak launch complex GJLAFWzVsRy-00397-00106692-00107008 in Alaska are used instead the Air Force GJLAFWzVsRy-00398-00107009-00107236 space and missile museum is located at GJLAFWzVsRy-00399-00107238-00107669 LC 26 hangar 8 located in the CCA FS GJLAFWzVsRy-00400-00107670-00107906 industrial area collects telemetry from GJLAFWzVsRy-00401-00107907-00108121 launches all over the United States GJLAFWzVsRy-00402-00108122-00108422 NASA's launch services program has three GJLAFWzVsRy-00403-00108423-00108668 launch vehicle data centers lvdc GJLAFWzVsRy-00404-00108669-00108878 within that display telemetry real time GJLAFWzVsRy-00405-00108879-00109254 for engineers GJLAFWzVsRy-00406-00109255-00109554 topic National Register of Historic GJLAFWzVsRy-00407-00109555-00109948 Places GJLAFWzVsRy-00408-00109949-00110475 topic infrastructure GJLAFWzVsRy-00409-00110476-00110936 topic water GJLAFWzVsRy-00410-00110938-00111189 the base obtains potable water from the GJLAFWzVsRy-00411-00111190-00111420 city of cocoa a single potable water GJLAFWzVsRy-00412-00111421-00111642 line from cocoa runs under the Sykes GJLAFWzVsRy-00413-00111643-00112170 Creek Bridge at searay Drive GJLAFWzVsRy-00414-00112171-00112608 topic gallery GJLAFWzVsRy-00415-00112608-00113106 topic see also GJLAFWzVsRy-00416-00113107-00113358 list of Cape Canaveral and Merritt GJLAFWzVsRy-00417-00113359-00113865 Island launch sites GJLAFWzVsRy-00418-00113866-00114283 references GJLAFWzVsRy-00419-00114283-00114630 topic sources GJLAFWzVsRy-00420-00114631-00114791 you GJLAFWzVsRy-00421-00114792-00115102 launch site safety assessment section GJLAFWzVsRy-00422-00115103-00115384 1.0 eastern range general range GJLAFWzVsRy-00423-00115385-00115778 capabilities PDF Research Triangle GJLAFWzVsRy-00424-00115779-00115988 Institute Center for aerospace GJLAFWzVsRy-00425-00115989-00116342 technology cast Florida Office Federal GJLAFWzVsRy-00426-00116343-00116624 Aviation Administration March 1999 GJLAFWzVsRy-00427-00116625-00116921 archived from the original PDF on March GJLAFWzVsRy-00428-00116922-00117717 26 2009 retrieved January 25th 2010 GJLAFWzVsRy-00429-00117718-00118259 topic external links GJLAFWzVsRy-00430-00118260-00118511 media related to Cape Canaveral Air GJLAFWzVsRy-00431-00118513-00118763 Force Station at Wikimedia Commons GJLAFWzVsRy-00432-00118764-00119115 Patrick Air Force Base Cape Canaveral GJLAFWzVsRy-00433-00119116-00119451 Air Force Station virtual tour Air Force GJLAFWzVsRy-00434-00119452-00119775 space and missile museum website Cape GJLAFWzVsRy-00435-00119776-00119996 Canaveral lighthouse shines again GJLAFWzVsRy-00436-00119997-00120233 article and video interview about the GJLAFWzVsRy-00437-00120234-00120566 lighthouse aviation from sand dunes to GJLAFWzVsRy-00438-00120567-00120747 sonic booms a National 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GLGPt31nF0Y-00021-00005489-00005681 incremental improvement in fuel GLGPt31nF0Y-00022-00005682-00005897 efficiency and vehicle emissions GLGPt31nF0Y-00023-00005898-00006161 controls while long term goals include GLGPt31nF0Y-00024-00006162-00006406 migrating transportation from fossil GLGPt31nF0Y-00025-00006408-00006662 based energy to other alternatives such GLGPt31nF0Y-00026-00006663-00006887 as renewable energy and use of other GLGPt31nF0Y-00027-00006888-00007259 renewable resources the entire lifecycle GLGPt31nF0Y-00028-00007259-00007498 of Transport Systems as subject to GLGPt31nF0Y-00029-00007500-00007678 sustainability measurement and GLGPt31nF0Y-00030-00007679-00007921 optimization sustainable transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00031-00007922-00008192 systems make a positive contribution to GLGPt31nF0Y-00032-00008193-00008392 the environmental social and economic GLGPt31nF0Y-00033-00008393-00008639 sustainability of the communities they GLGPt31nF0Y-00034-00008640-00008773 serve GLGPt31nF0Y-00035-00008774-00009038 Transport Systems exist to provide GLGPt31nF0Y-00036-00009039-00009271 social and economic connections and GLGPt31nF0Y-00037-00009272-00009512 people quickly take up the opportunities GLGPt31nF0Y-00038-00009513-00009778 offered by increased mobility with poor GLGPt31nF0Y-00039-00009779-00010028 households benefiting greatly from low GLGPt31nF0Y-00040-00010029-00010394 carbon transport options the advantages GLGPt31nF0Y-00041-00010395-00010634 of increased mobility need to be weighed GLGPt31nF0Y-00042-00010635-00010880 against the environmental social and GLGPt31nF0Y-00043-00010881-00011120 economic costs that Transport Systems GLGPt31nF0Y-00044-00011121-00011312 pose GLGPt31nF0Y-00045-00011313-00011558 transport systems have significant GLGPt31nF0Y-00046-00011559-00011795 impacts on the environment accounting GLGPt31nF0Y-00047-00011796-00012199 for between 20% and 25% of world energy GLGPt31nF0Y-00048-00012200-00012489 consumption and carbon dioxide emissions GLGPt31nF0Y-00049-00012490-00012908 the majority of the emissions almost 97% GLGPt31nF0Y-00050-00012909-00013288 came from direct burning of fossil fuels GLGPt31nF0Y-00051-00013288-00013604 greenhouse gas emissions from transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00052-00013605-00013844 are increasing at a faster rate than any GLGPt31nF0Y-00053-00013844-00014183 other energy using sector Road Transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00054-00014184-00014494 is also a major contributor to local air GLGPt31nF0Y-00055-00014495-00014750 pollution and smog the United Nations GLGPt31nF0Y-00056-00014751-00015011 Environment Programme UNEP estimates GLGPt31nF0Y-00057-00015012-00015278 that each year 2.4 million premature GLGPt31nF0Y-00058-00015279-00015536 deaths from outdoor air pollution could GLGPt31nF0Y-00059-00015537-00015860 be avoided particularly hazardous for GLGPt31nF0Y-00060-00015861-00016091 health our emissions of black carbon a GLGPt31nF0Y-00061-00016091-00016340 component of particulate matter which is GLGPt31nF0Y-00062-00016341-00016553 a known cause of respiratory and GLGPt31nF0Y-00063-00016554-00016811 carcinogenic diseases and a significant GLGPt31nF0Y-00064-00016812-00017159 contributor to global climate change the GLGPt31nF0Y-00065-00017160-00017396 links between greenhouse gas emissions GLGPt31nF0Y-00066-00017397-00017650 and particulate matter make low carbon GLGPt31nF0Y-00067-00017651-00017894 transport an increasingly sustainable GLGPt31nF0Y-00068-00017895-00018169 investment at local level both by GLGPt31nF0Y-00069-00018170-00018377 reducing emission levels and thus GLGPt31nF0Y-00070-00018378-00018587 mitigating climate change and by GLGPt31nF0Y-00071-00018588-00018785 improving Public Health through better GLGPt31nF0Y-00072-00018786-00019025 air quality the social costs of GLGPt31nF0Y-00073-00019026-00019271 transport include road crashes air GLGPt31nF0Y-00074-00019272-00019583 pollution physical inactivity time taken GLGPt31nF0Y-00075-00019584-00019811 away from the family while commuting and GLGPt31nF0Y-00076-00019812-00020092 vulnerability to fuel price increases GLGPt31nF0Y-00077-00020093-00020393 many of these negative impacts fall GLGPt31nF0Y-00078-00020394-00020618 disproportionately on those social GLGPt31nF0Y-00079-00020619-00020858 groups who are also least likely to own GLGPt31nF0Y-00080-00020859-00021028 and drive cars GLGPt31nF0Y-00081-00021029-00021341 traffic congestion imposes economic GLGPt31nF0Y-00082-00021342-00021605 costs by wasting people's time and by GLGPt31nF0Y-00083-00021606-00021806 slowing the delivery of goods and GLGPt31nF0Y-00084-00021807-00021989 services GLGPt31nF0Y-00085-00021990-00022244 traditional transport planning aims to GLGPt31nF0Y-00086-00022245-00022525 improve mobility especially for vehicles GLGPt31nF0Y-00087-00022526-00022747 and may fail to adequately consider GLGPt31nF0Y-00088-00022748-00023096 wider impacts but the real purpose of GLGPt31nF0Y-00089-00023097-00023380 transport is access to work education GLGPt31nF0Y-00090-00023381-00023669 goods and services friends and family GLGPt31nF0Y-00091-00023670-00023861 and there are proven techniques to GLGPt31nF0Y-00092-00023862-00024055 improve access while simultaneously GLGPt31nF0Y-00093-00024056-00024328 reducing environmental and social GLGPt31nF0Y-00094-00024329-00024667 impacts and managing traffic congestion GLGPt31nF0Y-00095-00024668-00024902 communities which are successfully GLGPt31nF0Y-00096-00024903-00025111 improving the sustainability of their GLGPt31nF0Y-00097-00025112-00025372 transport networks are doing so as part GLGPt31nF0Y-00098-00025373-00025603 of a wider program of creating more GLGPt31nF0Y-00099-00025604-00026406 vibrant livable sustainable cities GLGPt31nF0Y-00100-00026407-00026962 topic definition GLGPt31nF0Y-00101-00026963-00027260 the term sustainable transport came into GLGPt31nF0Y-00102-00027261-00027487 use as a logical follow-on from GLGPt31nF0Y-00103-00027488-00027721 sustainable development and is used to GLGPt31nF0Y-00104-00027722-00027992 describe modes of transport and systems GLGPt31nF0Y-00105-00027993-00028183 of transport planning which are GLGPt31nF0Y-00106-00028184-00028396 consistent with wider concerns of GLGPt31nF0Y-00107-00028397-00028655 sustainability there are many GLGPt31nF0Y-00108-00028656-00028915 definitions of the sustainable transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00109-00028916-00029152 and of the related terms sustainable GLGPt31nF0Y-00110-00029153-00029433 transportation and sustainable mobility GLGPt31nF0Y-00111-00029434-00029767 one such definition from the European GLGPt31nF0Y-00112-00029768-00030029 Union Council of Ministers of transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00113-00030030-00030245 defines a sustainable transportation GLGPt31nF0Y-00114-00030245-00030629 system as one that allows the basic GLGPt31nF0Y-00115-00030630-00030820 access and development needs of GLGPt31nF0Y-00116-00030821-00031102 individuals companies and society to be GLGPt31nF0Y-00117-00031103-00031289 met safely and in a manner consistent GLGPt31nF0Y-00118-00031289-00031543 with human and ecosystem health and GLGPt31nF0Y-00119-00031544-00031729 promotes equity within and between GLGPt31nF0Y-00120-00031730-00032132 successive generations is affordable GLGPt31nF0Y-00121-00032133-00032395 operates fairly and efficiently offers a GLGPt31nF0Y-00122-00032396-00032665 choice of transport mode and supports a GLGPt31nF0Y-00123-00032666-00032939 competitive economy as well as balanced GLGPt31nF0Y-00124-00032940-00033156 Regional Development GLGPt31nF0Y-00125-00033157-00033396 limits emissions and wastes within the GLGPt31nF0Y-00126-00033397-00033648 planets ability to absorb them uses GLGPt31nF0Y-00127-00033649-00033870 renewable resources that are below their GLGPt31nF0Y-00128-00033871-00034071 rate of generation and uses GLGPt31nF0Y-00129-00034072-00034326 non-renewable resources at or below the GLGPt31nF0Y-00130-00034327-00034518 rate of development of renewable GLGPt31nF0Y-00131-00034519-00034770 substitutes while minimizing the impact GLGPt31nF0Y-00132-00034771-00035016 on the use of land and the generation of GLGPt31nF0Y-00133-00035017-00035304 noise sustainability extends beyond just GLGPt31nF0Y-00134-00035305-00035636 the operating efficiency and emissions a GLGPt31nF0Y-00135-00035637-00035952 lifecycle assessment involves production GLGPt31nF0Y-00136-00035953-00036266 use and post use considerations a GLGPt31nF0Y-00137-00036267-00036537 cradle-to-cradle design is more GLGPt31nF0Y-00138-00036538-00036756 important than a focus on a single GLGPt31nF0Y-00139-00036757-00037514 factor such as energy efficiency GLGPt31nF0Y-00140-00037515-00038044 topic history GLGPt31nF0Y-00141-00038045-00038308 most of the tools and concepts of GLGPt31nF0Y-00142-00038309-00038542 sustainable transport were developed GLGPt31nF0Y-00143-00038543-00038884 before the phrase was coined walking the GLGPt31nF0Y-00144-00038885-00039163 first mode of transport is also the most GLGPt31nF0Y-00145-00039164-00039520 sustainable public transport dates back GLGPt31nF0Y-00146-00039521-00039760 at least as far as the invention of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00147-00039761-00040279 public bus by Blaise Pascal in 1662 the GLGPt31nF0Y-00148-00040280-00040564 first passenger tram began operation in GLGPt31nF0Y-00149-00040565-00040840 1807 and the first passenger rail GLGPt31nF0Y-00150-00040841-00041320 service in 1825 pedal bicycles date from GLGPt31nF0Y-00151-00041321-00041683 the 1860s these were the only personal GLGPt31nF0Y-00152-00041684-00041914 transport choices available to most GLGPt31nF0Y-00153-00041915-00042160 people in Western countries prior to GLGPt31nF0Y-00154-00042161-00042370 World War two and remained the only GLGPt31nF0Y-00155-00042371-00042583 options for most people in the GLGPt31nF0Y-00156-00042584-00042910 developing world Freight was moved by GLGPt31nF0Y-00157-00042911-00043281 human power animal power or rail GLGPt31nF0Y-00158-00043282-00043518 the post-war years brought increased GLGPt31nF0Y-00159-00043519-00043734 wealth and a demand for much greater GLGPt31nF0Y-00160-00043735-00044094 mobility for people and goods the number GLGPt31nF0Y-00161-00044095-00044322 of road vehicles in Britain increased GLGPt31nF0Y-00162-00044323-00044748 fivefold between 1950 and 1979 with GLGPt31nF0Y-00163-00044749-00045026 similar trends in other Western nations GLGPt31nF0Y-00164-00045027-00045306 most of fluent countries and cities GLGPt31nF0Y-00165-00045307-00045525 invested heavily in bigger and better GLGPt31nF0Y-00166-00045526-00045801 designed roads and motorways which were GLGPt31nF0Y-00167-00045802-00046038 considered essential to underpin growth GLGPt31nF0Y-00168-00046039-00046404 and prosperity transport planning became GLGPt31nF0Y-00169-00046405-00046572 a branch of urban planning and GLGPt31nF0Y-00170-00046573-00046836 identified induced demand as a pivotal GLGPt31nF0Y-00171-00046837-00047235 change from predict and provide toward a GLGPt31nF0Y-00172-00047236-00047411 sustainable approach incorporating GLGPt31nF0Y-00173-00047412-00047678 land-use planning and public transit GLGPt31nF0Y-00174-00047679-00047997 public investment in transit walking and GLGPt31nF0Y-00175-00047998-00048219 cycling declined dramatically in the GLGPt31nF0Y-00176-00048220-00048414 United States Great Britain and GLGPt31nF0Y-00177-00048415-00048669 Australia although this did not occur to GLGPt31nF0Y-00178-00048670-00048906 the same extent in Canada or mainland GLGPt31nF0Y-00179-00048907-00049146 Europe concerns about the sustainability GLGPt31nF0Y-00180-00049147-00049344 of this approach became widespread GLGPt31nF0Y-00181-00049345-00049845 during the 1973 oil crisis and the 1979 GLGPt31nF0Y-00182-00049846-00050208 energy crisis the high cost and limited GLGPt31nF0Y-00183-00050209-00050490 availability of fuel led to a resurgence GLGPt31nF0Y-00184-00050491-00050730 of interest in alternatives to single GLGPt31nF0Y-00185-00050731-00051008 occupancy vehicle travel GLGPt31nF0Y-00186-00051009-00051275 transport innovations dating from this GLGPt31nF0Y-00187-00051276-00051494 period include high occupancy vehicle GLGPt31nF0Y-00188-00051495-00051824 lanes citywide carpool systems and GLGPt31nF0Y-00189-00051825-00052083 transportation demand management GLGPt31nF0Y-00190-00052084-00052361 Singapore implemented congestion pricing GLGPt31nF0Y-00191-00052362-00052712 in the late 1970's and curitiba began GLGPt31nF0Y-00192-00052713-00052895 implementing its bus rapid transit GLGPt31nF0Y-00193-00052896-00053392 system in the early 1980s relatively low GLGPt31nF0Y-00194-00053394-00053701 and stable oil prices during the 1980s GLGPt31nF0Y-00195-00053702-00053978 and 1990s led to significant increases GLGPt31nF0Y-00196-00053979-00054386 in vehicle travel from 1980 to 2000 both GLGPt31nF0Y-00197-00054387-00054644 directly because people chose to travel GLGPt31nF0Y-00198-00054645-00054851 by car more often and for greater GLGPt31nF0Y-00199-00054852-00055091 distances and indirectly because cities GLGPt31nF0Y-00200-00055091-00055340 developed tracks of suburban housing GLGPt31nF0Y-00201-00055341-00055562 distant from shops and from workplaces GLGPt31nF0Y-00202-00055563-00055954 now referred to as urban sprawl trends GLGPt31nF0Y-00203-00055955-00056153 in freight logistics including a GLGPt31nF0Y-00204-00056154-00056360 movement from rail and coastal shipping GLGPt31nF0Y-00205-00056361-00056594 to road freight and a requirement for GLGPt31nF0Y-00206-00056595-00056819 just-in-time deliveries meant that GLGPt31nF0Y-00207-00056820-00057071 freight traffic grew faster than general GLGPt31nF0Y-00208-00057072-00057266 vehicle traffic GLGPt31nF0Y-00209-00057266-00057521 at the same time the academic GLGPt31nF0Y-00210-00057522-00057826 foundations of the predict and provide GLGPt31nF0Y-00211-00057827-00058073 approach to transport were being GLGPt31nF0Y-00212-00058074-00058349 questioned notably by Peter Newman in a GLGPt31nF0Y-00213-00058350-00058607 set of comparative studies of cities and GLGPt31nF0Y-00214-00058608-00058841 their transport systems dating from the GLGPt31nF0Y-00215-00058841-00059261 mid-1980s the British government's white GLGPt31nF0Y-00216-00059262-00059528 paper on transport marked a change in GLGPt31nF0Y-00217-00059529-00059767 direction for transport planning in the GLGPt31nF0Y-00218-00059769-00060089 UK in the introduction to the white GLGPt31nF0Y-00219-00060090-00060386 paper Prime Minister Tony Blair stated GLGPt31nF0Y-00220-00060387-00060758 that we recognize that we cannot simply GLGPt31nF0Y-00221-00060759-00060977 build our way out of the problems we GLGPt31nF0Y-00222-00060978-00061244 face it would be environmentally GLGPt31nF0Y-00223-00061245-00061585 irresponsible and would not work a GLGPt31nF0Y-00224-00061586-00061838 companion document to the white paper GLGPt31nF0Y-00225-00061839-00061922 called GLGPt31nF0Y-00226-00061923-00062291 smarter choices research the potential GLGPt31nF0Y-00227-00062291-00062498 to scale up the small and scattered GLGPt31nF0Y-00228-00062499-00062732 sustainable transport initiatives then GLGPt31nF0Y-00229-00062733-00062969 occurring across Britain and concluded GLGPt31nF0Y-00230-00062970-00063173 that the comprehensive application of GLGPt31nF0Y-00231-00063174-00063365 these techniques could reduce peak GLGPt31nF0Y-00232-00063366-00063665 period car travel in urban areas by over GLGPt31nF0Y-00233-00063666-00063955 20 percent a similar study by the United GLGPt31nF0Y-00234-00063957-00064123 States Federal Highway Administration GLGPt31nF0Y-00235-00064124-00064511 was also released in 2004 and also GLGPt31nF0Y-00236-00064512-00064712 concluded that a more proactive approach GLGPt31nF0Y-00237-00064713-00064954 to transportation demand was an GLGPt31nF0Y-00238-00064955-00065213 important component of overall national GLGPt31nF0Y-00239-00065214-00065887 transport strategy GLGPt31nF0Y-00240-00065888-00066534 topic environmental impact GLGPt31nF0Y-00241-00066535-00066801 transport systems are major emitters of GLGPt31nF0Y-00242-00066802-00067182 greenhouse gases responsible for 23% of GLGPt31nF0Y-00243-00067183-00067503 world energy related GHG emissions in GLGPt31nF0Y-00244-00067504-00067863 2004 with about 3/4 coming from road GLGPt31nF0Y-00245-00067864-00068226 vehicles currently 95 percent of GLGPt31nF0Y-00246-00068227-00068485 transport energy comes from petroleum GLGPt31nF0Y-00247-00068486-00068803 energy as consumed in the manufacture as GLGPt31nF0Y-00248-00068804-00069016 well as the use of vehicles and as GLGPt31nF0Y-00249-00069017-00069229 embodied in transport infrastructure GLGPt31nF0Y-00250-00069230-00069547 including roads bridges and railways the GLGPt31nF0Y-00251-00069548-00069793 first historical attempts of evaluating GLGPt31nF0Y-00252-00069794-00070057 the lifecycle environmental impact of GLGPt31nF0Y-00253-00070058-00070359 vehicle as due to Theodore von Karman GLGPt31nF0Y-00254-00070360-00070684 after decades in which all the analysis GLGPt31nF0Y-00255-00070685-00070903 has been focused on amending the von GLGPt31nF0Y-00256-00070904-00071182 Karman model dual thand van Langan whole GLGPt31nF0Y-00257-00071183-00071401 have introduced and model based on the GLGPt31nF0Y-00258-00071402-00071662 second law of thermodynamics and exergy GLGPt31nF0Y-00259-00071663-00071998 analysis Chester and or WAP have GLGPt31nF0Y-00260-00071999-00072232 developed a similar model based on the GLGPt31nF0Y-00261-00072233-00072444 first law that accounts the necessary GLGPt31nF0Y-00262-00072445-00072760 costs for the infrastructure the GLGPt31nF0Y-00263-00072761-00073015 environmental impacts of transport can GLGPt31nF0Y-00264-00073016-00073225 be reduced by reducing the weight of GLGPt31nF0Y-00265-00073226-00073494 vehicles sustainable styles of driving GLGPt31nF0Y-00266-00073495-00073681 reducing the friction of tires GLGPt31nF0Y-00267-00073682-00073948 encouraging electric and hybrid vehicles GLGPt31nF0Y-00268-00073949-00074137 improving the walking and cycling GLGPt31nF0Y-00269-00074138-00074410 environment in cities and by enhancing GLGPt31nF0Y-00270-00074411-00074626 the role of public transport especially GLGPt31nF0Y-00271-00074627-00074884 electric rail green vehicles are GLGPt31nF0Y-00272-00074885-00075094 intended to have less environmental GLGPt31nF0Y-00273-00075095-00075343 impact than equivalent standard vehicles GLGPt31nF0Y-00274-00075344-00075571 although when the environmental impact GLGPt31nF0Y-00275-00075572-00075796 of a vehicle is assessed over the whole GLGPt31nF0Y-00276-00075797-00076054 of its life cycle this may not be the GLGPt31nF0Y-00277-00076055-00076401 case electric vehicle technology has the GLGPt31nF0Y-00278-00076402-00076678 potential to reduce transport co2 GLGPt31nF0Y-00279-00076679-00076936 emissions depending on the embodied GLGPt31nF0Y-00280-00076937-00077155 energy of the vehicle and the source of GLGPt31nF0Y-00281-00077156-00077479 the electricity the primary sources of GLGPt31nF0Y-00282-00077480-00077722 electricity currently used in most GLGPt31nF0Y-00283-00077723-00078055 countries coal gas oil mean that until GLGPt31nF0Y-00284-00078056-00078273 world electricity production changes GLGPt31nF0Y-00285-00078274-00078544 substantially private electric cars will GLGPt31nF0Y-00286-00078545-00078793 result in the same or higher production GLGPt31nF0Y-00287-00078794-00079106 of co2 than petrol equivalent vehicles GLGPt31nF0Y-00288-00079107-00079468 the online electric vehicle o le V GLGPt31nF0Y-00289-00079469-00079701 developed by the Korea advanced GLGPt31nF0Y-00290-00079702-00079977 Institute of Science and Technology GLGPt31nF0Y-00291-00079978-00080308 KAIST is an electric vehicle that can be GLGPt31nF0Y-00292-00080309-00080581 charged while stationary or driving thus GLGPt31nF0Y-00293-00080582-00080821 removing the need to stop at a charging GLGPt31nF0Y-00294-00080822-00081181 station the city of Gumi in South Korea GLGPt31nF0Y-00295-00081182-00081478 runs a 24 kilometers round trip along GLGPt31nF0Y-00296-00081479-00081810 which the bus will receive 100 kilowatts GLGPt31nF0Y-00297-00081811-00082231 136 horsepower electricity at an 85% GLGPt31nF0Y-00298-00082232-00082438 maximum power transmission efficiency GLGPt31nF0Y-00299-00082439-00082777 rate while maintaining a 17 centimeters GLGPt31nF0Y-00300-00082778-00082993 air gap between the underbody of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00301-00082994-00083347 vehicle and the road surface at that GLGPt31nF0Y-00302-00083348-00083605 power only a few sections of the road GLGPt31nF0Y-00303-00083606-00083950 need embedded cables hybrid vehicles GLGPt31nF0Y-00304-00083951-00084181 which use an internal combustion engine GLGPt31nF0Y-00305-00084182-00084421 combined with an electric engine to GLGPt31nF0Y-00306-00084422-00084649 achieve better fuel efficiency than a GLGPt31nF0Y-00307-00084650-00084877 regular combustion engine are already GLGPt31nF0Y-00308-00084878-00085255 common natural gas is also used as a GLGPt31nF0Y-00309-00085256-00085573 transport fuel biofuels are a less GLGPt31nF0Y-00310-00085574-00085834 common and less promising technology GLGPt31nF0Y-00311-00085835-00086179 Brazil met 17% of its transport fuel GLGPt31nF0Y-00312-00086180-00086529 needs from bio ethanol in 2007 but the GLGPt31nF0Y-00313-00086530-00086818 OECD has warned that the success of GLGPt31nF0Y-00314-00086819-00087097 biofuels in Brazil is due to specific GLGPt31nF0Y-00315-00087098-00087349 local circumstances internationally GLGPt31nF0Y-00316-00087350-00087616 biofuels are forecast to have little or GLGPt31nF0Y-00317-00087617-00087868 no impact on greenhouse emissions at GLGPt31nF0Y-00318-00087869-00088117 significantly higher cost than energy GLGPt31nF0Y-00319-00088118-00088357 efficiency measures in practice there is GLGPt31nF0Y-00320-00088358-00088606 a sliding scale of green transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00321-00088607-00088834 depending on the sustainability of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00322-00088835-00089152 option green vehicles are more fuel GLGPt31nF0Y-00323-00089153-00089389 efficient but only in comparison with GLGPt31nF0Y-00324-00089390-00089593 standard vehicles and they still GLGPt31nF0Y-00325-00089594-00089815 contribute to traffic congestion and GLGPt31nF0Y-00326-00089816-00090163 road crashes well patronized public GLGPt31nF0Y-00327-00090164-00090412 transport networks based on traditional GLGPt31nF0Y-00328-00090413-00090670 diesel buses use less fuel per passenger GLGPt31nF0Y-00329-00090671-00090934 than private vehicles and are generally GLGPt31nF0Y-00330-00090935-00091183 safer and use less road space than GLGPt31nF0Y-00331-00091184-00091540 private vehicles Green public transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00332-00091541-00091813 vehicles including electric trains trams GLGPt31nF0Y-00333-00091814-00092026 and electric buses combine the GLGPt31nF0Y-00334-00092027-00092272 advantages of green vehicles with those GLGPt31nF0Y-00335-00092273-00092614 of sustainable transport choices other GLGPt31nF0Y-00336-00092615-00092860 transport choices with very low GLGPt31nF0Y-00337-00092861-00093088 environmental impact are cycling and GLGPt31nF0Y-00338-00093089-00093277 other human powered vehicle GLGPt31nF0Y-00339-00093278-00093607 an animal powered transport the most GLGPt31nF0Y-00340-00093608-00093865 common green transport choice with the GLGPt31nF0Y-00341-00093866-00094218 least environmental impact as walking GLGPt31nF0Y-00342-00094219-00094499 transport on Rails boasts an excellent GLGPt31nF0Y-00343-00094500-00094754 efficiency see fuel efficiency in GLGPt31nF0Y-00344-00094755-00095384 transportation GLGPt31nF0Y-00345-00095385-00095669 topic transport and social GLGPt31nF0Y-00346-00095670-00096137 sustainability GLGPt31nF0Y-00347-00096138-00096395 cities with overbuilt roadways have GLGPt31nF0Y-00348-00096396-00096641 experienced unintended consequences GLGPt31nF0Y-00349-00096642-00096872 linked to radical drops in public GLGPt31nF0Y-00350-00096873-00097244 transport walking and cycling in many GLGPt31nF0Y-00351-00097245-00097568 cases streets became void of life stores GLGPt31nF0Y-00352-00097569-00097850 schools government centers and libraries GLGPt31nF0Y-00353-00097851-00098081 moved away from central cities and GLGPt31nF0Y-00354-00098082-00098273 residents who did not flee to the GLGPt31nF0Y-00355-00098274-00098489 suburbs experienced a much reduced GLGPt31nF0Y-00356-00098490-00098744 quality of public space and of public GLGPt31nF0Y-00357-00098745-00099092 services as schools were closed their GLGPt31nF0Y-00358-00099093-00099299 mega school replacement in outlying GLGPt31nF0Y-00359-00099300-00099566 areas generated additional traffic the GLGPt31nF0Y-00360-00099567-00099926 number of cars on us roads between 7:15 GLGPt31nF0Y-00361-00099927-00100286 and 8:15 a.m. increases 30% during the GLGPt31nF0Y-00362-00100287-00100532 school year yet another impact was an GLGPt31nF0Y-00363-00100533-00100817 increase in sedentary lifestyles causing GLGPt31nF0Y-00364-00100818-00101054 and complicating a national epidemic of GLGPt31nF0Y-00365-00101055-00101300 obesity an accompanying dramatically GLGPt31nF0Y-00366-00101301-00102014 increased healthcare costs GLGPt31nF0Y-00367-00102015-00102545 topic cities GLGPt31nF0Y-00368-00102546-00102811 cities are shaped by their transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00369-00102813-00103130 systems in the city in history Lewis GLGPt31nF0Y-00370-00103131-00103384 Mumford documented how the location and GLGPt31nF0Y-00371-00103385-00103598 layout of cities was shaped around a GLGPt31nF0Y-00372-00103599-00103838 walkable Center often located near a GLGPt31nF0Y-00373-00103839-00104059 port or waterway and with suburbs GLGPt31nF0Y-00374-00104060-00104342 accessible by animal transport or later GLGPt31nF0Y-00375-00104343-00104879 by rail or tram lines in 1939 the New GLGPt31nF0Y-00376-00104880-00105131 York World's Fair included a model of an GLGPt31nF0Y-00377-00105132-00105392 imagined city built around a car based GLGPt31nF0Y-00378-00105393-00105803 transport system in this greater and GLGPt31nF0Y-00379-00105804-00106154 better world of tomorrow residential GLGPt31nF0Y-00380-00106155-00106388 commercial and industrial areas were GLGPt31nF0Y-00381-00106389-00106664 separated and skyscrapers loomed over a GLGPt31nF0Y-00382-00106665-00107027 network of urban motorways these ideas GLGPt31nF0Y-00383-00107028-00107291 captured the popular imagination and are GLGPt31nF0Y-00384-00107292-00107519 credited with influencing City Planning GLGPt31nF0Y-00385-00107520-00107948 from the 1940s to the 1970s GLGPt31nF0Y-00386-00107949-00108176 the popularity of the car in the GLGPt31nF0Y-00387-00108177-00108451 post-war era led to major changes in the GLGPt31nF0Y-00388-00108452-00108766 structure and function of cities there GLGPt31nF0Y-00389-00108767-00109015 was some opposition to these changes at GLGPt31nF0Y-00390-00109016-00109325 the time the writings of Jane Jacobs in GLGPt31nF0Y-00391-00109326-00109540 particular the death and life of great GLGPt31nF0Y-00392-00109541-00109775 American cities provide a poignant GLGPt31nF0Y-00393-00109776-00109984 reminder of what was lost in this GLGPt31nF0Y-00394-00109985-00110246 transformation and a record of community GLGPt31nF0Y-00395-00110247-00110588 efforts to resist these changes Lewis GLGPt31nF0Y-00396-00110589-00110924 Mumford asked is the city for cars or GLGPt31nF0Y-00397-00110925-00111286 for people donald Appleyard documented GLGPt31nF0Y-00398-00111288-00111502 the consequences for communities of GLGPt31nF0Y-00399-00111503-00111808 increasing car traffic in the view from GLGPt31nF0Y-00400-00111809-00112276 the road 1964 and in the UK mayor GLGPt31nF0Y-00401-00112277-00112526 Hillman first published research into GLGPt31nF0Y-00402-00112527-00112724 the impacts of traffic on child GLGPt31nF0Y-00403-00112725-00113179 independent mobility in 1971 despite GLGPt31nF0Y-00404-00113180-00113426 these notes of caution trends in car GLGPt31nF0Y-00405-00113427-00113681 ownership car use and fuel consumption GLGPt31nF0Y-00406-00113682-00113935 continued steeply upward throughout the GLGPt31nF0Y-00407-00113936-00114308 post-war period mainstream transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00408-00114308-00114581 planning in Europe has by contrast never GLGPt31nF0Y-00409-00114582-00114784 been based on assumptions that the GLGPt31nF0Y-00410-00114785-00114988 private car was the best or only GLGPt31nF0Y-00411-00114989-00115373 solution for urban mobility for example GLGPt31nF0Y-00412-00115374-00115643 the Dutch transport structure scheme has GLGPt31nF0Y-00413-00115644-00115982 since the 1970s required that demand for GLGPt31nF0Y-00414-00115983-00116249 additional vehicle capacity only be met GLGPt31nF0Y-00415-00116250-00116558 if the contribution to societal welfare GLGPt31nF0Y-00416-00116558-00117013 is positive and since 1990 has included GLGPt31nF0Y-00417-00117014-00117238 an explicit target to have the rate of GLGPt31nF0Y-00418-00117239-00117572 growth in vehicle traffic some cities GLGPt31nF0Y-00419-00117573-00117814 outside Europe have also consistently GLGPt31nF0Y-00420-00117815-00118054 linked transport to sustainability and GLGPt31nF0Y-00421-00118055-00118196 to land-use planning GLGPt31nF0Y-00422-00118197-00118528 notably Curitiba Brazil Portland Oregon GLGPt31nF0Y-00423-00118529-00118781 and Vancouver Canada GLGPt31nF0Y-00424-00118782-00119050 there are major differences in transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00425-00119051-00119287 energy consumption between cities an GLGPt31nF0Y-00426-00119288-00119633 average u.s. urban dweller uses 24 times GLGPt31nF0Y-00427-00119633-00119860 more energy annually for private GLGPt31nF0Y-00428-00119861-00120112 transport than a chinese urban resident GLGPt31nF0Y-00429-00120113-00120334 and almost four times as much as a GLGPt31nF0Y-00430-00120335-00120695 european urban dweller these differences GLGPt31nF0Y-00431-00120696-00120952 cannot be explained by wealth alone but GLGPt31nF0Y-00432-00120953-00121135 are closely linked to the rates of GLGPt31nF0Y-00433-00121136-00121445 walking cycling and public transport use GLGPt31nF0Y-00434-00121446-00121663 and two enduring features of the city GLGPt31nF0Y-00435-00121664-00121998 including urban density and urban design GLGPt31nF0Y-00436-00121999-00122258 the cities and nations that have GLGPt31nF0Y-00437-00122258-00122488 invested most heavily in car based GLGPt31nF0Y-00438-00122489-00122708 transport systems are now the least GLGPt31nF0Y-00439-00122708-00122969 environmentally sustainable as measured GLGPt31nF0Y-00440-00122970-00123361 by per capita fossil fuel use the social GLGPt31nF0Y-00441-00123362-00123637 and economic sustainability of car based GLGPt31nF0Y-00442-00123638-00123904 transportation engineering has also been GLGPt31nF0Y-00443-00123905-00124169 questioned within the United States GLGPt31nF0Y-00444-00124170-00124459 residents of sprawling cities make more GLGPt31nF0Y-00445-00124460-00124684 frequent and longer car trips while GLGPt31nF0Y-00446-00124685-00124868 residents of traditional urban GLGPt31nF0Y-00447-00124869-00125059 neighborhoods make a similar number of GLGPt31nF0Y-00448-00125060-00125326 trips but travel shorter distances and GLGPt31nF0Y-00449-00125327-00125681 walk cycle and use transit more often it GLGPt31nF0Y-00450-00125682-00125914 has been calculated that New York GLGPt31nF0Y-00451-00125915-00126170 residents saved nineteen billion dollars GLGPt31nF0Y-00452-00126171-00126431 each year simply by owning fewer cars GLGPt31nF0Y-00453-00126432-00126634 and driving less than the average GLGPt31nF0Y-00454-00126635-00127007 American a less car intensive means of GLGPt31nF0Y-00455-00127008-00127232 urban transport as car sharing which is GLGPt31nF0Y-00456-00127233-00127481 becoming popular in North America and GLGPt31nF0Y-00457-00127482-00127702 Europe and according to the Economist GLGPt31nF0Y-00458-00127703-00127978 car sharing can reduce car ownership at GLGPt31nF0Y-00459-00127979-00128207 an estimated rate of one rental car GLGPt31nF0Y-00460-00128208-00128614 replacing 15 owned vehicles car sharing GLGPt31nF0Y-00461-00128615-00128863 has also begun in the developing world GLGPt31nF0Y-00462-00128864-00129148 where traffic and urban density is often GLGPt31nF0Y-00463-00129149-00129378 worse than in developed countries GLGPt31nF0Y-00464-00129379-00129751 companies like zoom in India eh I in GLGPt31nF0Y-00465-00129752-00130031 China and carrot in Mexico are bringing GLGPt31nF0Y-00466-00130032-00130276 car sharing to developing countries in GLGPt31nF0Y-00467-00130277-00130462 an effort to reduce car related GLGPt31nF0Y-00468-00130463-00130753 pollution ameliorate traffic and expand GLGPt31nF0Y-00469-00130754-00130984 the number of people who have access to GLGPt31nF0Y-00470-00130985-00131254 cars the European Commission adopted the GLGPt31nF0Y-00471-00131255-00131503 action plan on urban mobility on the GLGPt31nF0Y-00472-00131504-00131858 30th of September 2009 for sustainable GLGPt31nF0Y-00473-00131859-00132173 urban mobility the European come GLGPt31nF0Y-00474-00132174-00132350 we'll conduct a review of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00475-00132351-00132593 implementation of the action plan in the GLGPt31nF0Y-00476-00132594-00132875 year 2012 and will assess the need for GLGPt31nF0Y-00477-00132876-00133370 further action in 2007 72% of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00478-00133371-00133652 European population lived in urban areas GLGPt31nF0Y-00479-00133653-00133915 which are key to growth and employment GLGPt31nF0Y-00480-00133916-00134237 cities need efficient transport systems GLGPt31nF0Y-00481-00134238-00134456 to support their economy and the welfare GLGPt31nF0Y-00482-00134457-00134891 of their inhabitants around 85% of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00483-00134892-00135329 EU GDP as generated in cities urban GLGPt31nF0Y-00484-00135330-00135554 areas faced today the challenge of GLGPt31nF0Y-00485-00135555-00135761 making Transport sustainable in GLGPt31nF0Y-00486-00135762-00136094 environmental co2 air pollution noise GLGPt31nF0Y-00487-00136095-00136370 and competitiveness congestion terms GLGPt31nF0Y-00488-00136371-00136613 while at the same time addressing social GLGPt31nF0Y-00489-00136614-00136964 concerns these range from the need to GLGPt31nF0Y-00490-00136965-00137150 respond to health problems and GLGPt31nF0Y-00491-00137151-00137369 demographic trends fostering economic GLGPt31nF0Y-00492-00137370-00137645 and social cohesion to taking into GLGPt31nF0Y-00493-00137646-00137831 account the needs of persons with GLGPt31nF0Y-00494-00137832-00138634 reduced mobility families and children GLGPt31nF0Y-00495-00138635-00139296 topic policies and governance GLGPt31nF0Y-00496-00139297-00139563 sustainable transport policies have GLGPt31nF0Y-00497-00139564-00139776 their greatest impact at the city level GLGPt31nF0Y-00498-00139777-00140101 outside Western Europe cities which have GLGPt31nF0Y-00499-00140102-00140359 consistently included sustainability as GLGPt31nF0Y-00500-00140360-00140608 a key consideration in transport and GLGPt31nF0Y-00501-00140609-00140841 land use planning include Curitiba GLGPt31nF0Y-00502-00140842-00141199 Brazil Bogota Colombia Portland Oregon GLGPt31nF0Y-00503-00141200-00141528 and Vancouver Canada the state of GLGPt31nF0Y-00504-00141529-00141813 Victoria Australia passed legislation in GLGPt31nF0Y-00505-00141814-00142108 2010 the transport integration Act to GLGPt31nF0Y-00506-00142109-00142329 compel its transport agencies to GLGPt31nF0Y-00507-00142330-00142585 actively consider sustainability issues GLGPt31nF0Y-00508-00142586-00142825 including climate change impacts in GLGPt31nF0Y-00509-00142826-00143103 transport policy planning and operations GLGPt31nF0Y-00510-00143104-00143326 many other cities throughout the world GLGPt31nF0Y-00511-00143327-00143528 have recognized the need to link GLGPt31nF0Y-00512-00143529-00143776 sustainability and transport policies GLGPt31nF0Y-00513-00143777-00144046 for example by joining the cities for GLGPt31nF0Y-00514-00144047-00144724 climate protection program GLGPt31nF0Y-00515-00144725-00145423 topic community and grassroots action GLGPt31nF0Y-00516-00145424-00145700 sustainable transport as fundamentally a GLGPt31nF0Y-00517-00145701-00145973 grassroots movement albeit one which is GLGPt31nF0Y-00518-00145974-00146267 now recognized as of citywide national GLGPt31nF0Y-00519-00146268-00146621 and international significance whereas GLGPt31nF0Y-00520-00146622-00146831 it started as a movement driven by GLGPt31nF0Y-00521-00146832-00147086 environmental concerns over these last GLGPt31nF0Y-00522-00147087-00147290 years there has been increased emphasis GLGPt31nF0Y-00523-00147291-00147602 on social equity and fairness issues and GLGPt31nF0Y-00524-00147603-00147836 in particular the need to ensure proper GLGPt31nF0Y-00525-00147837-00148094 access and services for lower-income GLGPt31nF0Y-00526-00148095-00148289 groups and people with mobility GLGPt31nF0Y-00527-00148290-00148559 limitations including the fast growing GLGPt31nF0Y-00528-00148560-00148928 population of older citizens many of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00529-00148929-00149177 people exposed to the most vehicle noise GLGPt31nF0Y-00530-00149178-00149411 pollution and safety risk have been GLGPt31nF0Y-00531-00149412-00149657 those who do not own or cannot drive GLGPt31nF0Y-00532-00149658-00149918 cars and those for whom the cost of car GLGPt31nF0Y-00533-00149919-00150125 ownership causes a severe financial GLGPt31nF0Y-00534-00150126-00150458 burden an organization called Green XC GLGPt31nF0Y-00535-00150459-00150734 started in 2011 created a national GLGPt31nF0Y-00536-00150735-00150974 awareness campaign in the United States GLGPt31nF0Y-00537-00150975-00151193 encouraging people to carpool by GLGPt31nF0Y-00538-00151194-00151445 ride-sharing cross country stopping over GLGPt31nF0Y-00539-00151446-00151688 at various destinations along the way GLGPt31nF0Y-00540-00151689-00151901 and documenting their travel through GLGPt31nF0Y-00541-00151902-00152176 video footage posts and photography GLGPt31nF0Y-00542-00152177-00152546 ride-sharing reduces individual's carbon GLGPt31nF0Y-00543-00152547-00152792 footprint by allowing several people to GLGPt31nF0Y-00544-00152793-00153071 use one car instead of everyone using GLGPt31nF0Y-00545-00153072-00153734 individual cars GLGPt31nF0Y-00546-00153735-00154319 topic recent trends GLGPt31nF0Y-00547-00154320-00154583 car travel increased steadily throughout GLGPt31nF0Y-00548-00154584-00154922 the 20th century but trends since 2000 GLGPt31nF0Y-00549-00154923-00155291 have been more complex oil price rises GLGPt31nF0Y-00550-00155292-00155579 from 2003 have been linked to a decline GLGPt31nF0Y-00551-00155580-00155840 in per-capita fuel use for private GLGPt31nF0Y-00552-00155841-00156122 vehicle travel in the USA Britain and GLGPt31nF0Y-00553-00156123-00156557 Australia in 2008 global oil consumption GLGPt31nF0Y-00554-00156558-00156893 fell by 0.8 percent overall with GLGPt31nF0Y-00555-00156894-00157136 significant declines in consumption in GLGPt31nF0Y-00556-00157137-00157394 North America Western Europe and parts GLGPt31nF0Y-00557-00157395-00157727 of Asia other factors affecting a GLGPt31nF0Y-00558-00157728-00157997 decline in driving at least in America GLGPt31nF0Y-00559-00157998-00158252 include the retirement of baby boomers GLGPt31nF0Y-00560-00158253-00158492 who now drive less preference for other GLGPt31nF0Y-00561-00158493-00158768 travel modes such as transit by younger GLGPt31nF0Y-00562-00158769-00159047 age cohorts the Great Recession and the GLGPt31nF0Y-00563-00159048-00159335 rising use of Technology internet mobile GLGPt31nF0Y-00564-00159336-00159578 devices which have made travel less GLGPt31nF0Y-00565-00159579-00160363 necessary and possibly less attractive GLGPt31nF0Y-00566-00160364-00160998 topic tools and incentives GLGPt31nF0Y-00567-00160999-00161279 several European countries are opening GLGPt31nF0Y-00568-00161280-00161511 up financial incentives that support GLGPt31nF0Y-00569-00161512-00161859 more sustainable modes of transport the GLGPt31nF0Y-00570-00161860-00162108 European cyclists Federation which GLGPt31nF0Y-00571-00162109-00162387 focuses on daily cycling for Transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00572-00162388-00162651 has created a document containing a non GLGPt31nF0Y-00573-00162652-00163059 complete overview in the UK employers GLGPt31nF0Y-00574-00163060-00163281 have for many years been providing GLGPt31nF0Y-00575-00163282-00163616 employees with financial incentives the GLGPt31nF0Y-00576-00163617-00163889 employee leases or borrows a bike that GLGPt31nF0Y-00577-00163890-00164213 the employer has purchased you can also GLGPt31nF0Y-00578-00164214-00164484 get other support the scheme is GLGPt31nF0Y-00579-00164485-00164726 beneficial for the employee who saves GLGPt31nF0Y-00580-00164727-00164939 money and gets an incentive to get GLGPt31nF0Y-00581-00164940-00165159 excersice integrated in the daily GLGPt31nF0Y-00582-00165160-00165510 routine the employer can expect a tax GLGPt31nF0Y-00583-00165511-00165752 deduction lower sick leave and less GLGPt31nF0Y-00584-00165753-00166039 pressure on parking spaces for cars GLGPt31nF0Y-00585-00166040-00166395 since 2010 there has been a scheme in GLGPt31nF0Y-00586-00166396-00166640 Iceland Sam Ganga Chrysler where those GLGPt31nF0Y-00587-00166641-00166875 who do not drive a car to work get paid GLGPt31nF0Y-00588-00166876-00167240 a lump of money monthly an employee must GLGPt31nF0Y-00589-00167241-00167499 sign a statement not to use a car for GLGPt31nF0Y-00590-00167500-00167747 work more often than one day a week or GLGPt31nF0Y-00591-00167748-00168123 20% of the days for a period some GLGPt31nF0Y-00592-00168124-00168377 employers pay fixed amounts based on GLGPt31nF0Y-00593-00168378-00168669 trust other employers reimburse the GLGPt31nF0Y-00594-00168670-00168975 expenses for repairs on bicycles period GLGPt31nF0Y-00595-00168976-00169197 tickets for public transport and the GLGPt31nF0Y-00596-00169198-00169640 like since 2013 amounts up to 8,000 GLGPt31nF0Y-00597-00169641-00169833 icelandic kroner per month have been GLGPt31nF0Y-00598-00169834-00170220 tax-free most major workplaces offer GLGPt31nF0Y-00599-00170221-00170463 this and a significant proportion of GLGPt31nF0Y-00600-00170464-00170804 employees use the scheme from the year GLGPt31nF0Y-00601-00170805-00171138 2019 half the amount as tax-free if the GLGPt31nF0Y-00602-00171139-00171393 employee sings a contract not to use a GLGPt31nF0Y-00603-00171394-00171684 car to work for more than 40% of the GLGPt31nF0Y-00604-00171685-00172398 days of the contract period GLGPt31nF0Y-00605-00172399-00172965 topic greenwashing GLGPt31nF0Y-00606-00172966-00173265 the term green transport is often used GLGPt31nF0Y-00607-00173266-00173511 as a green wash marketing technique for GLGPt31nF0Y-00608-00173512-00173719 products which are not proven to make a GLGPt31nF0Y-00609-00173720-00173970 positive contribution to environmental GLGPt31nF0Y-00610-00173971-00174306 sustainability such claims can be GLGPt31nF0Y-00611-00174307-00174624 legally challenged for instance Norway's GLGPt31nF0Y-00612-00174625-00174831 consumer Ombudsman has targeted GLGPt31nF0Y-00613-00174832-00175107 automakers who claim that their cars are GLGPt31nF0Y-00614-00175108-00175772 green clean or environmentally friendly GLGPt31nF0Y-00615-00175773-00176061 manufacturers risk fines if they fail to GLGPt31nF0Y-00616-00176062-00176301 drop the words the Australian GLGPt31nF0Y-00617-00176302-00176640 Competition and Consumer Commission ACCC GLGPt31nF0Y-00618-00176641-00176925 describes green claims on products as GLGPt31nF0Y-00619-00176926-00177193 very vague inviting consumers to give a GLGPt31nF0Y-00620-00177194-00177411 wide range of meanings to the claim GLGPt31nF0Y-00621-00177412-00177845 which risks misleading them in 2008 the GLGPt31nF0Y-00622-00177846-00178179 ACCC forced a car retailer to stop its GLGPt31nF0Y-00623-00178180-00178440 green marketing of saab cars which was GLGPt31nF0Y-00624-00178441-00178693 found by the australian federal court as GLGPt31nF0Y-00625-00178694-00179296 misleading GLGPt31nF0Y-00626-00179297-00179848 topic objectives GLGPt31nF0Y-00627-00179849-00180166 the EU Directorate General for transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00628-00180167-00180436 and energy DG trend has launched a GLGPt31nF0Y-00629-00180437-00180721 program which focuses mostly on urban GLGPt31nF0Y-00630-00180722-00181481 transport its main measures are GLGPt31nF0Y-00631-00181482-00182414 topic see also GLGPt31nF0Y-00632-00182415-00183415 topic notes and references GLGPt31nF0Y-00633-00183416-00184027 topic 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nine seven eight one eight four GLGPt31nF0Y-00648-00189073-00189470 four oh seven six six five nine GLGPt31nF0Y-00649-00189471-00189713 sustainable transport mobility GLGPt31nF0Y-00650-00189714-00189902 management and travel plans GLGPt31nF0Y-00651-00189903-00190296 Ashgate press Farnham Surrey 2012 enoch GLGPt31nF0Y-00652-00190297-00190664 MP is B and nine seven eight oh seven GLGPt31nF0Y-00653-00190665-00191276 five four six seven nine three nine four GLGPt31nF0Y-00654-00191277-00191486 external links sustainable mobility GLGPt31nF0Y-00655-00191487-00191726 initiative National Renewable Energy GLGPt31nF0Y-00656-00191727-00192011 Laboratory sustainable Transportation GLGPt31nF0Y-00657-00192012-00192206 Research National Renewable Energy GLGPt31nF0Y-00658-00192207-00192485 Laboratory efficient mobility summit GLGPt31nF0Y-00659-00192486-00192737 transportation and the future of dynamic GLGPt31nF0Y-00660-00192738-00193127 mobility systems January 2016 National GLGPt31nF0Y-00661-00193128-00193385 Renewable Energy Laboratory share and GLGPt31nF0Y-00662-00193386-00193640 lend bicycles across the globe for free GLGPt31nF0Y-00663-00193641-00193934 a global hi shift scenario impacts and GLGPt31nF0Y-00664-00193935-00194159 potential for more public transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00665-00194160-00194426 walking and cycling with lower car use GLGPt31nF0Y-00666-00194427-00194648 Institute for transportation and GLGPt31nF0Y-00667-00194649-00194918 development policy September 2014 GLGPt31nF0Y-00668-00194919-00195278 inherit project a horizon 2020 project GLGPt31nF0Y-00669-00195279-00195539 to identify ways of living moving and GLGPt31nF0Y-00670-00195540-00195767 consuming that protect the environment GLGPt31nF0Y-00671-00195768-00196012 and promote health and health equity GLGPt31nF0Y-00672-00196013-00196277 guiding principles to sustainable GLGPt31nF0Y-00673-00196278-00196523 mobility sustainable urban transport GLGPt31nF0Y-00674-00196524-00196826 project 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activities such as the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00045-00012847-00013143 manned spaceflight project see Shan Joe GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00046-00013144-00013347 Graham and has accomplished a GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00047-00013347-00013559 significant number of scientific GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00048-00013560-00013772 research achievements prominently GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00049-00013773-00014121 represented by tianhe supercomputers see GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00050-00014122-00014333 tianhe-2 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00051-00014334-00014605 and UDT has always been at the forefront GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00052-00014606-00015044 of China's national defense research for GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00053-00015044-00015260 fulfilling the demand arising from the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00054-00015261-00015446 strategies of strengthening national GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00055-00015447-00015691 defense by means of science and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00056-00015693-00015922 technology and building an innovative GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00057-00015923-00016228 country and UDT fully utilizes its GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00058-00016229-00016466 integrative disciplinary strengths in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00059-00016467-00016811 science engineering management military GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00060-00016812-00017132 science humanities and social sciences GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00061-00017133-00017363 to provide vigorous support for the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00062-00017364-00017581 modernization of the Chinese armed GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00063-00017582-00017869 forces to provide talent and technical GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00064-00017870-00018146 support to China's national economy and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00065-00018147-00018443 social development and ultimately to GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00066-00018444-00018662 make contributions to world peace and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00067-00018663-00018876 development GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00068-00018877-00019191 and you DT as a leading Institute in the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00069-00019192-00019427 Chinese space program and China's GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00070-00019428-00019664 supercomputer development C GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00071-00019665-00019934 supercomputing in China GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00072-00019935-00020128 as one of the most difficult GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00073-00020129-00020465 universities to enter in China and UDT GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00074-00020466-00020726 admits freshly graduated high school GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00075-00020727-00021002 students into its undergraduate programs GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00076-00021003-00021227 through the rigorous Chinese national GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00077-00021228-00021526 higher education entrance examination GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00078-00021527-00021860 this is different from PLA National GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00079-00021861-00022127 Defense University that generally admits GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00080-00022128-00022322 current army personnel from their GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00081-00022323-00022598 military posts into its programs as GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00082-00022599-00023408 Career Training Program in the military GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00083-00023409-00023953 topic history GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00084-00023954-00024342 and UDT was founded on September 1st GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00085-00024343-00024711 1953 as the People's Liberation Army PLA GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00086-00024712-00025056 Military Academy of Engineering Chinese GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00087-00025057-00025372 zhang guo ran min jia Fang Zhang Zhang GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00088-00025373-00025633 shizhong Xiang Shui yuan or Harbin GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00089-00025633-00025944 Military Academy of Engineering Chinese GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00090-00025945-00026014 ha GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00091-00026014-00026239 urban Zhang shizhong Xiong Shui yuan GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00092-00026239-00026443 under the direct leadership of the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00093-00026444-00026714 Chinese Central Military Commission GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00094-00026716-00027039 grand general Chen Jiang was appointed GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00095-00027041-00027349 the first president it was located in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00096-00027350-00027595 Harbin heilongjiang province in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00097-00027595-00027870 northeastern China close to the border GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00098-00027872-00028212 with the former Soviet Union the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00099-00028213-00028470 University was founded as the Supreme GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00100-00028472-00028810 Military Academy of China it had five GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00101-00028811-00029068 departments and one prep Department at GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00102-00029069-00029277 the time of its founding including GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00103-00029278-00029512 departments of airforce engineering GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00104-00029513-00029814 artillery engineering naval engineering GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00105-00029816-00030099 armoring force engineering and Corps of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00106-00030100-00030436 Engineers departments of chemical GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00107-00030437-00030687 warfare and nuclear warfare were later GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00108-00030688-00031089 established in the university during the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00109-00031090-00031377 Cultural Revolution the university was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00110-00031378-00031549 transitioned to the committee of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00111-00031550-00031821 national defense Science and Technology GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00112-00031822-00032070 and was renamed Harbin Academy of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00113-00032072-00032640 Engineering in 1966 in 1970 the main GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00114-00032641-00032887 body of the university including its GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00115-00032888-00033087 central administration and for GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00116-00033088-00033307 departments moved to Changsha in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00117-00033308-00033571 south-central China due to the possible GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00118-00033572-00033802 war with the Soviet Union and was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00119-00033803-00034110 renamed Changsha Institute of Technology GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00120-00034111-00034437 other departments were converted to at GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00121-00034438-00034651 least five independent national GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00122-00034652-00034951 universities or taken by other national GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00123-00034952-00035154 universities or Science Research GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00124-00035155-00035536 Institute the university's name was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00125-00035537-00035761 changed to People's Liberation Army GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00126-00035762-00036064 National University of Defence Science GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00127-00036065-00036396 and Technology in 1978 after the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00128-00036397-00037127 Cultural Revolution was over GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00129-00037128-00037687 topic campus GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00130-00037688-00038032 and UDT is located in the urban area of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00131-00038033-00038347 Changsha capital of pune and province in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00132-00038348-00038596 south central China covering a total GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00133-00038597-00039691 area of 373 hectares or 922 acres GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00134-00039692-00040306 topic administration GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00135-00040307-00040684 president lieutenant Gen dang shouting GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00136-00040685-00040937 academician of the Chinese Academy of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00137-00040938-00041297 Sciences political commissar GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00138-00041298-00042100 lieutenant gen Looney angling GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00139-00042101-00042697 topic academics GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00140-00042698-00043057 over the past 60 years and UDT has GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00141-00043058-00043255 developed into a comprehensive GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00142-00043256-00043509 University of Science Engineering GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00143-00043510-00043908 military science management economics GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00144-00043909-00044284 philosophy literature education law and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00145-00044285-00044674 history the university consists of ten GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00146-00044675-00044911 colleges administering over 40 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00147-00044912-00045211 departments institutes and laboratories GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00148-00045212-00045511 for national key laboratories and one GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00149-00045512-00045733 key laboratory at the ministry of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00150-00045734-00046150 education level and UDT plays a leading GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00151-00046151-00046444 role in many subjects nine of which are GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00152-00046445-00046816 national key subjects according to the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00153-00046817-00047065 National first category discipline GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00154-00047066-00047488 evaluation from the years 2002 to 2004 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00155-00047489-00047715 organized by the Ministry of Education GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00156-00047716-00048091 five disciplines of nu DT made the top GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00157-00048092-00048310 five list and the discipline of computer GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00158-00048311-00048589 science and technology ranked first GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00159-00048590-00048835 nationwide GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00160-00048836-00049117 the ten colleges of the university GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00161-00049118-00049524 include college of aerospace science and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00162-00049525-00050043 engineering college of science College GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00163-00050044-00050242 of mechatronic engineering and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00164-00050243-00050640 automation College of electronic science GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00165-00050641-00051012 and engineering college of information GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00166-00051013-00051354 system and management College of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00167-00051355-00051714 computer College of optoelectronic GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00168-00051715-00052065 Science and Engineering College of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00169-00052066-00052474 Humanities and Social Science College of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00170-00052475-00052834 Basic Education College of continuing GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00171-00052835-00053426 education GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00172-00053427-00054034 topic statistics GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00173-00054035-00054475 currently nu DT has over 2,000 faculty GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00174-00054476-00054810 members over 300 of whom are professors GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00175-00054811-00055183 there are 14,000 full-time students GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00176-00055184-00055702 including 8400 undergraduates and 5600 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00177-00055703-00056200 graduates nu DT offers 25 subjects for GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00178-00056201-00056563 undergraduates 112 programs for master's GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00179-00056564-00056914 degree candidates and 69 programs for GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00180-00056915-00057388 PhD candidates 11 postdoctoral research GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00181-00057389-00058153 stations have been authorized on campus GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00182-00058154-00058704 topic ranking GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00183-00058704-00058947 the University was founded as the 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ranked with civilian GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00198-00063042-00063303 universities historically due to the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00199-00063304-00063525 lack of relevant and reliable public GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00200-00063526-00063813 data about the university because of its GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00201-00063814-00064204 military and national defense nature in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00202-00064205-00064548 2014 when nu DT was ranked the first GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00203-00064549-00064821 time with Chinese civilian universities GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00204-00064822-00065070 by the Chinese universities Alumni GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00205-00065071-00065346 Association it was ranked as one of the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00206-00065347-00065631 top six universities with a 6 star GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00207-00065632-00065937 status number 7 star was given to any GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00208-00065938-00066230 University along with Peking University GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00209-00066231-00066753 Tsinghua University among others in 2015 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00210-00066754-00067041 and UDT was ranked the second time with GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00211-00067042-00067311 Chinese civilian universities and was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00212-00067312-00067494 ranked as one of the top four GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00213-00067495-00067866 universities with a 7 star status when 7 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00214-00067867-00068127 star was introduced the first time along GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00215-00068128-00068370 with Peking University Tsinghua GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00216-00068371-00068655 University and University of Chinese GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00217-00068656-00068985 Academy of Science universities widely GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00218-00068986-00069311 known by the international community GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00219-00069312-00069537 universities in this cluster are GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00220-00069538-00069810 consistently called the top-notch GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00221-00069811-00070131 universities ding Jian - Wei and GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00222-00070132-00070332 considered the highest ranking GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00223-00070333-00070984 universities in China GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00224-00070985-00071748 topic and UDT supercomputers GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00225-00071749-00072222 yong-gi yhi why inhg one was developed GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00226-00072223-00072605 in 1983 as the leading supercomputer in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00227-00072606-00072893 China with a performance level of 100 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00228-00072894-00073475 mega flops Yin he to yh2 Yin he too was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00229-00073476-00073815 built in 1992 achieving performance of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00230-00073816-00074225 one gigaflops yen he and he too was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00231-00074226-00074612 upgraded to yen he 3 in 1996 which GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00232-00074613-00075147 achieves 13 gigaflops Tianhe i Tianhe I GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00233-00075148-00075366 was first revealed to the public on the GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00234-00075367-00075749 29th of October 2009 and was immediately GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00235-00075750-00075982 ranked as the world's fifth fastest GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00236-00075983-00076278 supercomputer in the top500 list GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00237-00076279-00076619 released at the 2009 supercomputing GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00238-00076620-00076998 conference SCO 9 held in Portland Oregon GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00239-00076999-00077516 on the 16th of November 2009 Tianhe II GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00240-00077517-00077929 in October 2010 Tianhe iya an upgraded GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00241-00077930-00078171 supercomputer achieving a performance GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00242-00078172-00078585 level of 2.57 peda flops was unveiled at GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00243-00078586-00078923 HPC 2010 China and ranked as the world's GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00244-00078924-00079313 fastest supercomputer in the top500 list GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00245-00079314-00079746 in November 2011 the tianhe won a ranked GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00246-00079747-00080012 as the second fastest supercomputer in GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00247-00080013-00080318 the world on top500 after it was GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00248-00080319-00080618 surpassed by Kay computer by Fujitsu of GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00249-00080619-00081151 Japan tianhe-2 tianhe-2 was the fastest GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00250-00081152-00081471 supercomputer in the world until 2016 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00251-00081472-00081743 when it was surpassed by Sun Waitaha GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00252-00081744-00081932 light at the Chinese national GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00253-00081933-00082205 supercomputing Center GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00254-00082206-00082566 tianhe-2 a tianhe-2 a is currently GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00255-00082567-00082787 ranked as the world's fourth fastest GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00256-00082788-00083181 supercomputer on the top500 list having GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00257-00083182-00083637 achieved a performance level of 61-44 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00258-00083638-00084197 peda flops GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00259-00084198-00084836 topic see also GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00260-00084837-00085126 top500 GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00261-00085127-00085586 hpc challenge benchmark supercomputer GpJRgBqYJ7Y-00262-00085587-00085894 centers in China GPFSluaxKBI-00000-00000088-00000303 hi i'm tony welcome to sports bike shops GPFSluaxKBI-00001-00000304-00000714 video about the revit off track textile GPFSluaxKBI-00002-00000715-00001491 [Music] GPFSluaxKBI-00003-00001492-00002255 jacket GPFSluaxKBI-00004-00002256-00002415 the main clue to the revit off tracks GPFSluaxKBI-00005-00002416-00002607 purpose is in its name it's a textile GPFSluaxKBI-00006-00002608-00002775 touring jacket that's designed to let GPFSluaxKBI-00007-00002776-00002926 you head off the beaten track if that's GPFSluaxKBI-00008-00002927-00003039 what you want to do GPFSluaxKBI-00009-00003040-00003231 it's a textile jacket with a removable GPFSluaxKBI-00010-00003232-00003343 waterproof liner GPFSluaxKBI-00011-00003344-00003486 and separate thermal liner and there's GPFSluaxKBI-00012-00003488-00003670 also a good amount of venting so it GPFSluaxKBI-00013-00003671-00003783 covers a wide range of weather GPFSluaxKBI-00014-00003784-00003903 conditions GPFSluaxKBI-00015-00003904-00004127 the outer is made from 600 denier GPFSluaxKBI-00016-00004128-00004327 polyester with reinforcements at the GPFSluaxKBI-00017-00004328-00004495 shoulders and the elbows GPFSluaxKBI-00018-00004496-00004711 and sections of mesh at the front and GPFSluaxKBI-00019-00004712-00004895 the rear of the shoulders here GPFSluaxKBI-00020-00004896-00005079 these are the first and the most obvious GPFSluaxKBI-00021-00005080-00005263 vented sections but there are also GPFSluaxKBI-00022-00005264-00005535 vent panels there are two on the chest GPFSluaxKBI-00023-00005536-00005686 undoing this zip here GPFSluaxKBI-00024-00005687-00005895 and releasing two press studs underneath GPFSluaxKBI-00025-00005896-00006006 this flap GPFSluaxKBI-00026-00006007-00006375 allows this to be folded back under here GPFSluaxKBI-00027-00006376-00006719 secured on this press stud GPFSluaxKBI-00028-00006720-00007014 and then popped away there once those GPFSluaxKBI-00029-00007015-00007175 are folded back and inside that gives GPFSluaxKBI-00030-00007176-00007231 you two GPFSluaxKBI-00031-00007231-00007495 decent size panels here and here for air GPFSluaxKBI-00032-00007495-00007687 to flow through to the inside GPFSluaxKBI-00033-00007688-00007895 the other vents are here at the cuff GPFSluaxKBI-00034-00007895-00008110 section they have two way zips GPFSluaxKBI-00035-00008111-00008407 so they can be opened and the cuff at GPFSluaxKBI-00036-00008408-00008559 the bottom can still be undone GPFSluaxKBI-00037-00008560-00008703 but you've got this vent open here to GPFSluaxKBI-00038-00008704-00008935 bring in some air at the base of the GPFSluaxKBI-00039-00008936-00009159 arm because the waterproof membrane on GPFSluaxKBI-00040-00009160-00009295 this jacket is removable GPFSluaxKBI-00041-00009296-00009519 on really hot days these vents will then GPFSluaxKBI-00042-00009520-00009695 be able to get a much more direct GPFSluaxKBI-00043-00009696-00009871 passage of air through to your body on GPFSluaxKBI-00044-00009872-00010006 the inside GPFSluaxKBI-00045-00010007-00010167 on top of that there are fit adjusters GPFSluaxKBI-00046-00010168-00010359 at the arms and the waist where you've GPFSluaxKBI-00047-00010360-00010391 got GPFSluaxKBI-00048-00010392-00010551 twin adjustment belts normally it's a GPFSluaxKBI-00049-00010552-00010703 single here but this jacket has GPFSluaxKBI-00050-00010704-00010895 twin belts additionally there's a GPFSluaxKBI-00051-00010896-00011038 drawstring around GPFSluaxKBI-00052-00011039-00011271 the base hem that allows you to pull it GPFSluaxKBI-00053-00011272-00011399 tight and get a better seal around the GPFSluaxKBI-00054-00011400-00011503 bottom GPFSluaxKBI-00055-00011504-00011742 the main fastener is a chunky zip with a GPFSluaxKBI-00056-00011743-00011942 flap behind it that stops any chilly air GPFSluaxKBI-00057-00011943-00012119 that gets past the teeth of the zip GPFSluaxKBI-00058-00012120-00012246 reaching your body GPFSluaxKBI-00059-00012247-00012423 and the collar fastener operates on a GPFSluaxKBI-00060-00012424-00012631 press stud but the base plate GPFSluaxKBI-00061-00012632-00012846 position here can be tightened or GPFSluaxKBI-00062-00012847-00012966 slackened to GPFSluaxKBI-00063-00012967-00013183 suit your preference and there are five GPFSluaxKBI-00064-00013184-00013407 positions there to fine tune that fit GPFSluaxKBI-00065-00013408-00013679 and this loop here also secures back GPFSluaxKBI-00066-00013680-00013758 against here GPFSluaxKBI-00067-00013759-00013911 on that hook if that's something you GPFSluaxKBI-00068-00013912-00014063 want to give you a bit more air GPFSluaxKBI-00069-00014063-00014207 or a little bit more room around the GPFSluaxKBI-00070-00014208-00014486 neck the cuffs on this jacket are quite GPFSluaxKBI-00071-00014487-00014583 an effective GPFSluaxKBI-00072-00014584-00014927 design there's a long velcro strap GPFSluaxKBI-00073-00014928-00015279 around the back of the cuff GPFSluaxKBI-00074-00015280-00015455 that helps get the right tension around GPFSluaxKBI-00075-00015456-00015630 the wrist and then GPFSluaxKBI-00076-00015631-00015927 the zip and a short velcro band on the GPFSluaxKBI-00077-00015928-00016079 front here GPFSluaxKBI-00078-00016080-00016263 just do the bit that fastens it to keep GPFSluaxKBI-00079-00016263-00016391 it in place GPFSluaxKBI-00080-00016392-00016599 i've had winter gloves both inside this GPFSluaxKBI-00081-00016600-00016758 cuff and over the top of it GPFSluaxKBI-00082-00016759-00016911 so i think they'll suit whichever GPFSluaxKBI-00083-00016912-00017030 preference you have whether that's to GPFSluaxKBI-00084-00017031-00017183 wear your gloves inside the jacket or GPFSluaxKBI-00085-00017184-00017367 over the top GPFSluaxKBI-00086-00017368-00017511 pocket-wise on the outside of this GPFSluaxKBI-00087-00017512-00017686 jacket there are three there are two GPFSluaxKBI-00088-00017687-00017871 water-resistant pockets here at the GPFSluaxKBI-00089-00017872-00018039 waist although one thing to note they're GPFSluaxKBI-00090-00018040-00018199 stitched at the sides so you can't use GPFSluaxKBI-00091-00018200-00018350 them as hand warmer pockets when you're GPFSluaxKBI-00092-00018351-00018463 off the bike GPFSluaxKBI-00093-00018464-00018647 and then there's an additional pocket at GPFSluaxKBI-00094-00018648-00019093 the lower back GPFSluaxKBI-00095-00019094-00019286 [Applause] GPFSluaxKBI-00096-00019287-00019494 moving to the inside of the jacket GPFSluaxKBI-00097-00019495-00019694 there's that removable waterproof GPFSluaxKBI-00098-00019695-00019871 membrane that i've already spoken about GPFSluaxKBI-00099-00019872-00020135 and that's revit's own hydratex liner a GPFSluaxKBI-00100-00020136-00020214 full sleeve GPFSluaxKBI-00101-00020215-00020391 thermal liner attaches inside that GPFSluaxKBI-00102-00020392-00020543 waterproof membrane and that gives you GPFSluaxKBI-00103-00020544-00020735 another level of weather protection GPFSluaxKBI-00104-00020736-00020886 there are three pockets on the inside of GPFSluaxKBI-00105-00020887-00021086 this jacket there's a napoleon pocket at GPFSluaxKBI-00106-00021087-00021143 the chest GPFSluaxKBI-00107-00021144-00021303 and there are two by the waist round GPFSluaxKBI-00108-00021304-00021430 about the same position that you've got GPFSluaxKBI-00109-00021431-00021663 on the exterior of the jacket here GPFSluaxKBI-00110-00021664-00021830 the armor for this off track jacket is GPFSluaxKBI-00111-00021831-00022063 substantial stuff it's rev its own see GPFSluaxKBI-00112-00022064-00022278 soft armor and it meets the higher level GPFSluaxKBI-00113-00022279-00022455 two of the ce standard GPFSluaxKBI-00114-00022456-00022671 it's also been approved in two optional GPFSluaxKBI-00115-00022672-00022863 tests to show it works in GPFSluaxKBI-00116-00022864-00023111 extreme cold and extreme heat and it's GPFSluaxKBI-00117-00023112-00023247 not particularly common GPFSluaxKBI-00118-00023248-00023550 for armor to pass both of those tests GPFSluaxKBI-00119-00023551-00023694 there's no back protector standard with GPFSluaxKBI-00120-00023695-00023863 this jacket but there is a pocket for GPFSluaxKBI-00121-00023864-00023919 one GPFSluaxKBI-00122-00023920-00024071 and there's also provision for impact GPFSluaxKBI-00123-00024072-00024247 protection at the chest you GPFSluaxKBI-00124-00024248-00024439 undo the velcro that secures the storage GPFSluaxKBI-00125-00024440-00024607 pockets that sit behind here GPFSluaxKBI-00126-00024608-00024742 and that reveals an opening for the GPFSluaxKBI-00127-00024743-00024950 armor pockets above so it sits in the GPFSluaxKBI-00128-00024951-00025111 pocket around about the same area as the GPFSluaxKBI-00129-00025112-00025247 vents here GPFSluaxKBI-00130-00025248-00025399 there are twin connecting zips on the GPFSluaxKBI-00131-00025400-00025575 inside to attach to trousers GPFSluaxKBI-00132-00025576-00025758 and the matching off-track trousers are GPFSluaxKBI-00133-00025760-00026127 available costing 249 pounds 99 a pair GPFSluaxKBI-00134-00026127-00026287 they come in three different leg lengths GPFSluaxKBI-00135-00026288-00026439 which is always helpful when you're GPFSluaxKBI-00136-00026439-00026558 looking for the right fit and you want GPFSluaxKBI-00137-00026560-00026679 the armor to be in the right place GPFSluaxKBI-00138-00026680-00026823 particularly on an adventure touring GPFSluaxKBI-00139-00026824-00026911 suit GPFSluaxKBI-00140-00026912-00027055 there are links in the description for GPFSluaxKBI-00141-00027056-00027239 this video that go to the trousers GPFSluaxKBI-00142-00027239-00027374 as well as to the chest and the back GPFSluaxKBI-00143-00027375-00027639 protector inserts the off track jacket GPFSluaxKBI-00144-00027639-00027918 is currently 339 pounds 99 which means GPFSluaxKBI-00145-00027919-00028111 the complete suit with trousers GPFSluaxKBI-00146-00028112-00028343 comes in just under 600 pounds that's GPFSluaxKBI-00147-00028344-00028551 around the same price as you'd pay GPFSluaxKBI-00148-00028552-00028751 for just a jacket from some other GPFSluaxKBI-00149-00028752-00029343 brand's adventure kit GPFSluaxKBI-00150-00029344-00029502 customer reviews are thin on the ground GPFSluaxKBI-00151-00029504-00029662 for the off track at the moment but the GPFSluaxKBI-00152-00029663-00029895 first few have all given it a maximum GPFSluaxKBI-00153-00029895-00029990 five stars GPFSluaxKBI-00154-00029991-00030183 i'm not really surprised by that as the GPFSluaxKBI-00155-00030183-00030351 off track has a decent spec GPFSluaxKBI-00156-00030352-00030543 it's really impressively built and it GPFSluaxKBI-00157-00030544-00030702 was comfortable and effective when i GPFSluaxKBI-00158-00030703-00031190 tried one out on the roads GPFSluaxKBI-00159-00031191-00031327 i hope that tells you everything you GPFSluaxKBI-00160-00031327-00031527 wanted to know about the revit off track GPFSluaxKBI-00161-00031527-00031590 jacket GPFSluaxKBI-00162-00031591-00031735 but if there is anything you'd like to GPFSluaxKBI-00163-00031736-00031974 ask or to add then please pop a comment GPFSluaxKBI-00164-00031975-00032062 below GPFSluaxKBI-00165-00032063-00034359 thanks for watching GPFSluaxKBI-00166-00034360-00034568 you GTJxQD9NUFc-00000-00000014-00000302 the speed of light in vacuum commonly GTJxQD9NUFc-00001-00000303-00000521 denoted C is a universal physical GTJxQD9NUFc-00002-00000522-00000709 constant important in many areas of GTJxQD9NUFc-00003-00000710-00001432 physics its exact value is 299,792,458 GTJxQD9NUFc-00004-00001433-00001777 m/s approximately 300,000 kilometers per GTJxQD9NUFc-00005-00001778-00002201 second 186,000 miles per second it is GTJxQD9NUFc-00006-00002202-00002375 exact because by international agreement GTJxQD9NUFc-00007-00002376-00002584 a meter is defined as the length of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00008-00002585-00002789 path travelled by light in vacuum during GTJxQD9NUFc-00009-00002790-00003340 a time interval of one 299,792,458 GTJxQD9NUFc-00010-00003342-00003710 second according to special relativity C GTJxQD9NUFc-00011-00003711-00003869 is the maximum speed at which all GTJxQD9NUFc-00012-00003870-00004049 conventional matter and hence all known GTJxQD9NUFc-00013-00004050-00004253 forms of information in the universe can GTJxQD9NUFc-00014-00004254-00004477 travel though this speed is most GTJxQD9NUFc-00015-00004478-00004697 commonly associated with light it is in GTJxQD9NUFc-00016-00004698-00004865 fact the speed at which all massless GTJxQD9NUFc-00017-00004866-00005077 particles and changes of the associated GTJxQD9NUFc-00018-00005078-00005270 fields travel in vacuum including GTJxQD9NUFc-00019-00005271-00005438 electromagnetic radiation and GTJxQD9NUFc-00020-00005439-00005752 gravitational waves such particles and GTJxQD9NUFc-00021-00005753-00005938 waves travel at C regardless of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00022-00005939-00006106 motion of the source or the inertial GTJxQD9NUFc-00023-00006107-00006356 reference frame of the observer in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00024-00006357-00006496 special and general theories of GTJxQD9NUFc-00025-00006497-00006716 relativity see interrelate space and GTJxQD9NUFc-00026-00006717-00006905 time and also appears in the famous GTJxQD9NUFc-00027-00006906-00007503 equation of mass energy equivalence e GTJxQD9NUFc-00028-00007504-00007834 topic mc2 the speed at which light GTJxQD9NUFc-00029-00007834-00008073 propagates through transparent materials GTJxQD9NUFc-00030-00008075-00008328 such as glass or air is less than C GTJxQD9NUFc-00031-00008329-00008584 similarly the speed of electromagnetic GTJxQD9NUFc-00032-00008585-00008831 waves in wire cables is slower than C GTJxQD9NUFc-00033-00008832-00009169 the ratio between C and the speed V at GTJxQD9NUFc-00034-00009170-00009378 which light travels in a material is GTJxQD9NUFc-00035-00009379-00009580 called the refractive index n of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00036-00009581-00010086 material n GTJxQD9NUFc-00037-00010087-00010405 c.v for example for visible light the GTJxQD9NUFc-00038-00010406-00010600 refractive index of glass is typically GTJxQD9NUFc-00039-00010601-00010852 around 1.5 meaning that lighting glass GTJxQD9NUFc-00040-00010853-00011163 travels at C 1.5 approximately equals GTJxQD9NUFc-00041-00011164-00011457 200,000 kilometres per second GTJxQD9NUFc-00042-00011458-00011721 124,000 miles per second the refractive GTJxQD9NUFc-00043-00011722-00011908 index of air for visible light is about GTJxQD9NUFc-00044-00011909-00012135 one point zero three so the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00045-00012136-00012313 light in air is about two hundred and GTJxQD9NUFc-00046-00012314-00012469 ninety nine thousand seven hundred GTJxQD9NUFc-00047-00012470-00012907 kilometers per second 186,000 220 miles GTJxQD9NUFc-00048-00012908-00013084 per second which is about ninety GTJxQD9NUFc-00049-00013085-00013318 kilometers per second 56 miles per GTJxQD9NUFc-00050-00013319-00013624 second slower than C for many practical GTJxQD9NUFc-00051-00013625-00013840 purposes light and other electromagnetic GTJxQD9NUFc-00052-00013841-00014019 waves will appear to propagate GTJxQD9NUFc-00053-00014020-00014244 instantaneously but for long distances GTJxQD9NUFc-00054-00014245-00014431 and very sensitive measurements they're GTJxQD9NUFc-00055-00014432-00014715 finite speed has noticeable effects in GTJxQD9NUFc-00056-00014716-00014932 communicating with distant space probes GTJxQD9NUFc-00057-00014933-00015112 it can take minutes two hours for a GTJxQD9NUFc-00058-00015113-00015241 message to get from Earth to the GTJxQD9NUFc-00059-00015241-00015430 spacecraft or vice versa GTJxQD9NUFc-00060-00015431-00015663 the light seemed from stars left them GTJxQD9NUFc-00061-00015665-00015856 many years ago allowing the study of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00062-00015857-00016030 history of the universe by looking at GTJxQD9NUFc-00063-00016031-00016315 distant objects the finite speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00064-00016316-00016486 light also limits the theoretical GTJxQD9NUFc-00065-00016487-00016684 maximum speed of computers since GTJxQD9NUFc-00066-00016685-00016849 information must be sent within the GTJxQD9NUFc-00067-00016850-00017125 computer from chip to chip the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00068-00017126-00017269 light can be used with time-of-flight GTJxQD9NUFc-00069-00017270-00017472 measurements to measure large distances GTJxQD9NUFc-00070-00017473-00017758 to high-precision ole rømer first GTJxQD9NUFc-00071-00017759-00018064 demonstrated in 1676 that light travels GTJxQD9NUFc-00072-00018065-00018244 at a finite speed as opposed to GTJxQD9NUFc-00073-00018245-00018475 instantaneously by studying the apparent GTJxQD9NUFc-00074-00018476-00018828 motion of Jupiter's moon Io in 1865 GTJxQD9NUFc-00075-00018829-00019053 James Clark Maxwell proposed that light GTJxQD9NUFc-00076-00019054-00019216 was an electromagnetic wave and GTJxQD9NUFc-00077-00019217-00019390 therefore traveled at the speed C GTJxQD9NUFc-00078-00019391-00019503 appearing in his theory of GTJxQD9NUFc-00079-00019504-00019897 electromagnetism in 1905 Albert Einstein GTJxQD9NUFc-00080-00019898-00020094 postulated that the speed of light C GTJxQD9NUFc-00081-00020095-00020290 with respect to any inertial frame is a GTJxQD9NUFc-00082-00020291-00020458 constant and is independent of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00083-00020459-00020716 motion of the light source he explored GTJxQD9NUFc-00084-00020717-00020908 the consequences of that postulate by GTJxQD9NUFc-00085-00020909-00021112 deriving the theory of relativity and in GTJxQD9NUFc-00086-00021113-00021313 doing so showed that the parameter C had GTJxQD9NUFc-00087-00021314-00021493 relevance outside of the context of GTJxQD9NUFc-00088-00021494-00021781 light and electromagnetism after GTJxQD9NUFc-00089-00021782-00021949 centuries of increasingly precise GTJxQD9NUFc-00090-00021950-00022243 measurements in 1975 the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00091-00022244-00022984 was known to be 299,792,458 m/s 980 GTJxQD9NUFc-00092-00022985-00023158 three million five hundred and seventy GTJxQD9NUFc-00093-00023159-00023371 one thousand and fifty six feet per GTJxQD9NUFc-00094-00023372-00023465 second one GTJxQD9NUFc-00095-00023466-00023660 in eighty six thousand two hundred and GTJxQD9NUFc-00096-00023661-00023855 eighty two point three nine seven miles GTJxQD9NUFc-00097-00023856-00023978 per second with a measurement GTJxQD9NUFc-00098-00023979-00024274 uncertainty of four parts per billion in GTJxQD9NUFc-00099-00024275-00024536 1983 the metre was redefined in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00100-00024537-00024773 International System of Units si as the GTJxQD9NUFc-00101-00024774-00024971 distance traveled by light in vacuum in GTJxQD9NUFc-00102-00024972-00026053 one 299,792,458 of a second GTJxQD9NUFc-00103-00026054-00026807 topic numerical value notation and units GTJxQD9NUFc-00104-00026808-00027049 the speed of light in vacuum is usually GTJxQD9NUFc-00105-00027050-00027389 denoted by a lowercase C for constant or GTJxQD9NUFc-00106-00027389-00027568 the Latin seller eaters meaning GTJxQD9NUFc-00107-00027569-00027995 swiftness celerity in 1856 Wilhelm GTJxQD9NUFc-00108-00027995-00028195 Edouard Weber and Rudolph Coleridge had GTJxQD9NUFc-00109-00028197-00028387 used C for a different constant later GTJxQD9NUFc-00110-00028388-00028607 shown to equal square root two times the GTJxQD9NUFc-00111-00028608-00028870 speed of light in vacuum historically GTJxQD9NUFc-00112-00028872-00029102 the symbol V was used as an alternative GTJxQD9NUFc-00113-00029102-00029302 symbol for the speed of light introduced GTJxQD9NUFc-00114-00029303-00029743 by James Clerk Maxwell in 1865 in 1894 GTJxQD9NUFc-00115-00029744-00029968 Paul Drude redefined C with its modern GTJxQD9NUFc-00116-00029969-00030248 meaning Einstein used V in his original GTJxQD9NUFc-00117-00030249-00030452 German language papers on special GTJxQD9NUFc-00118-00030452-00030773 relativity in 1905 but in 1907 he GTJxQD9NUFc-00119-00030774-00030974 switched to C which by then had become GTJxQD9NUFc-00120-00030975-00031136 the standard symbol for the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00121-00031137-00031358 light sometimes C is used for the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00122-00031358-00031577 of waves in any material medium and C GTJxQD9NUFc-00123-00031577-00031771 zero for the speed of light in vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-00124-00031772-00032045 this subscripted notation which is GTJxQD9NUFc-00125-00032045-00032249 endorsed in official SI literature has GTJxQD9NUFc-00126-00032250-00032474 the same form as other related constants GTJxQD9NUFc-00127-00032475-00032654 namely mu zero for the vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-00128-00032655-00032873 permeability or magnetic constant GTJxQD9NUFc-00129-00032874-00033061 epsilon zero for the vacuum permittivity GTJxQD9NUFc-00130-00033062-00033349 or electric constant and z 0 for the GTJxQD9NUFc-00131-00033350-00033637 impedance of free space this article GTJxQD9NUFc-00132-00033638-00033842 uses C exclusively for the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00133-00033843-00034252 light in vacuum since 1983 the metre has GTJxQD9NUFc-00134-00034253-00034424 been defined in the International System GTJxQD9NUFc-00135-00034425-00034645 of Units si as the distance light GTJxQD9NUFc-00136-00034646-00035287 travels in vacuum in one 299,792,458 of GTJxQD9NUFc-00137-00035288-00035579 a second this definition fixes the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00138-00035580-00036085 of light in vacuum at exactly GTJxQD9NUFc-00139-00036086-00036518 299,792,458 m/s as a dimensional GTJxQD9NUFc-00140-00036519-00036739 physical constant the numerical value of GTJxQD9NUFc-00141-00036740-00036908 C is different for different unit GTJxQD9NUFc-00142-00036909-00037160 systems GTJxQD9NUFc-00143-00037161-00037330 in branches of physics in which C GTJxQD9NUFc-00144-00037331-00037552 appears often such as in relativity it GTJxQD9NUFc-00145-00037553-00037739 is common to use systems of natural GTJxQD9NUFc-00146-00037740-00037930 units of measurement or the geometrist GTJxQD9NUFc-00147-00037931-00038305 unit system where C equals 1 using these GTJxQD9NUFc-00148-00038306-00038470 units C does not appear explicitly GTJxQD9NUFc-00149-00038471-00038720 because multiplication or division by GTJxQD9NUFc-00150-00038721-00039029 one does not affect the result GTJxQD9NUFc-00151-00039030-00039481 equals GTJxQD9NUFc-00152-00039482-00040137 topic fundamental role in physics GTJxQD9NUFc-00153-00040138-00040458 equals the speed at which light waves GTJxQD9NUFc-00154-00040459-00040668 propagate in vacuum is independent both GTJxQD9NUFc-00155-00040669-00040836 of the motion of the wave source and of GTJxQD9NUFc-00156-00040837-00041001 the inertial frame of reference of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00157-00041002-00041268 observer this invariance of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00158-00041269-00041520 light was postulated by Einstein in 1905 GTJxQD9NUFc-00159-00041521-00041757 after being motivated by Maxwell's GTJxQD9NUFc-00160-00041758-00041949 theory of electromagnetism and the lack GTJxQD9NUFc-00161-00041950-00042099 of evidence for the luminiferous ether GTJxQD9NUFc-00162-00042100-00042321 it has since been consistently confirmed GTJxQD9NUFc-00163-00042322-00042606 by many experiments it is only possible GTJxQD9NUFc-00164-00042607-00042789 to verify experimentally that the GTJxQD9NUFc-00165-00042790-00043014 two-way speed of light for example from GTJxQD9NUFc-00166-00043015-00043191 a source to a mirror and back again is GTJxQD9NUFc-00167-00043192-00043365 frame independent because it is GTJxQD9NUFc-00168-00043366-00043542 impossible to measure the one-way speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00169-00043543-00043752 of light for example from a source to a GTJxQD9NUFc-00170-00043753-00043959 distant detector without some convention GTJxQD9NUFc-00171-00043960-00044124 as to how Cox at the source in that the GTJxQD9NUFc-00172-00044125-00044289 detector should be synchronized GTJxQD9NUFc-00173-00044290-00044520 however by adopting Einstein GTJxQD9NUFc-00174-00044521-00044691 synchronization for the clocks the GTJxQD9NUFc-00175-00044692-00044898 one-way speed of light becomes equal to GTJxQD9NUFc-00176-00044899-00045095 the two-way speed of light by definition GTJxQD9NUFc-00177-00045096-00045305 the special theory of relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-00178-00045306-00045522 explores the consequences of this GTJxQD9NUFc-00179-00045523-00045708 invariance of C with the assumption that GTJxQD9NUFc-00180-00045709-00045882 the laws of physics are the same in all GTJxQD9NUFc-00181-00045883-00046140 inertial frames of reference one GTJxQD9NUFc-00182-00046141-00046332 consequence is that C is the speed at GTJxQD9NUFc-00183-00046333-00046506 which all massless particles and waves GTJxQD9NUFc-00184-00046507-00046796 including light must travel in vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-00185-00046797-00047010 special relativity has many GTJxQD9NUFc-00186-00047011-00047175 counterintuitive and experimentally GTJxQD9NUFc-00187-00047176-00047469 verified implications these include the GTJxQD9NUFc-00188-00047470-00048033 equivalence of mass and energy E GTJxQD9NUFc-00189-00048034-00048396 topic mc2 length contraction moving GTJxQD9NUFc-00190-00048397-00048672 objects shorten and time dilation moving GTJxQD9NUFc-00191-00048673-00048984 clocks run more slowly the factor gamma GTJxQD9NUFc-00192-00048985-00049197 by which lengths contract and times GTJxQD9NUFc-00193-00049198-00049395 dilate is known as the Lorentz factor GTJxQD9NUFc-00194-00049396-00049946 and is given by gamma GTJxQD9NUFc-00195-00049947-00050351 1 minus V 2 C 2 minus 1/2 where V is the GTJxQD9NUFc-00196-00050352-00050612 speed of the object the difference of GTJxQD9NUFc-00197-00050613-00050801 gamma from 1 is negligible for speeds GTJxQD9NUFc-00198-00050802-00051035 much slower than C such as most everyday GTJxQD9NUFc-00199-00051036-00051296 speeds in which case special relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-00200-00051297-00051527 is closely approximated by Galilean GTJxQD9NUFc-00201-00051528-00051745 relativity but it increases at GTJxQD9NUFc-00202-00051746-00051935 relativistic speeds and diverges to GTJxQD9NUFc-00203-00051936-00052289 infinity as V approaches C for example a GTJxQD9NUFc-00204-00052290-00052845 time dilation factor of gamma GTJxQD9NUFc-00205-00052846-00053115 topic two occurs at a relative velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00206-00053116-00053382 of eighty six point six percent of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00207-00053383-00053969 speed of light be GTJxQD9NUFc-00208-00053970-00054338 866 see similarly a time dilation factor GTJxQD9NUFc-00209-00054339-00054775 of gamma GTJxQD9NUFc-00210-00054776-00055424 topic 10 occurs at V GTJxQD9NUFc-00211-00055425-00055821 99.5% see the results of special GTJxQD9NUFc-00212-00055822-00056030 relativity can be summarized by treating GTJxQD9NUFc-00213-00056031-00056235 space and time as a unified structure GTJxQD9NUFc-00214-00056236-00056454 known as space-time with C relating the GTJxQD9NUFc-00215-00056454-00056649 units of space and time and requiring GTJxQD9NUFc-00216-00056650-00056874 that physical theory satisfies special GTJxQD9NUFc-00217-00056875-00057084 symmetry called Lorentz invariance whose GTJxQD9NUFc-00218-00057085-00057291 mathematical formulation contains the GTJxQD9NUFc-00219-00057291-00057575 parameter C Lorentz invariance is an GTJxQD9NUFc-00220-00057576-00057767 almost universal assumption for modern GTJxQD9NUFc-00221-00057769-00057949 physical theories such as quantum GTJxQD9NUFc-00222-00057950-00058146 electrodynamics quantum chromodynamics GTJxQD9NUFc-00223-00058147-00058362 the standard model of particle physics GTJxQD9NUFc-00224-00058363-00058686 and general relativity as such the GTJxQD9NUFc-00225-00058687-00058890 parameter C is ubiquitous in modern GTJxQD9NUFc-00226-00058891-00059103 physics appearing in many contexts that GTJxQD9NUFc-00227-00059104-00059322 are unrelated to light for example GTJxQD9NUFc-00228-00059323-00059576 general relativity predicts that C is GTJxQD9NUFc-00229-00059577-00059744 also the speed of gravity and of GTJxQD9NUFc-00230-00059745-00060009 gravitational waves in non inertial GTJxQD9NUFc-00231-00060010-00060222 frames of reference gravitationally GTJxQD9NUFc-00232-00060223-00060411 curved space-time or accelerated GTJxQD9NUFc-00233-00060412-00060603 reference frames the local speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00234-00060604-00060834 light is constant and equal to C but the GTJxQD9NUFc-00235-00060835-00060999 speed of light along a trajectory of GTJxQD9NUFc-00236-00061000-00061169 finite length can differ from C GTJxQD9NUFc-00237-00061170-00061391 depending on how distances and times are GTJxQD9NUFc-00238-00061392-00061568 defined it is generally assumed that GTJxQD9NUFc-00239-00061569-00061797 fundamental constants such as C have the GTJxQD9NUFc-00240-00061798-00062004 same value throughout space-time meaning GTJxQD9NUFc-00241-00062004-00062192 that they do not depend on location and GTJxQD9NUFc-00242-00062193-00062478 do not vary with time however it has GTJxQD9NUFc-00243-00062479-00062673 been suggested in various theories that GTJxQD9NUFc-00244-00062674-00062843 the speed of light may have changed over GTJxQD9NUFc-00245-00062844-00062904 time GTJxQD9NUFc-00246-00062904-00063174 no conclusive evidence for such changes GTJxQD9NUFc-00247-00063175-00063341 has been found but they remain the GTJxQD9NUFc-00248-00063342-00063557 subject of ongoing research it also is GTJxQD9NUFc-00249-00063558-00063692 generally assumed that the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00250-00063693-00063903 light is isotropic meaning that it has GTJxQD9NUFc-00251-00063904-00064062 the same value regardless of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00252-00064063-00064259 direction in which it is measured GTJxQD9NUFc-00253-00064260-00064446 observations of the emissions from GTJxQD9NUFc-00254-00064447-00064631 nuclear energy levels is a function of GTJxQD9NUFc-00255-00064632-00064812 the orientation of the emitting nuclei GTJxQD9NUFc-00256-00064813-00065024 in a magnetic field C hues driver GTJxQD9NUFc-00257-00065025-00065229 experiment and of rotating optical GTJxQD9NUFc-00258-00065229-00065478 resonators C resonator experiments have GTJxQD9NUFc-00259-00065479-00065651 put stringent limits on the possible GTJxQD9NUFc-00260-00065652-00065930 two-way and isotropy GTJxQD9NUFc-00261-00065931-00066271 you GTJxQD9NUFc-00262-00066272-00066861 topic upper limit on speeds GTJxQD9NUFc-00263-00066862-00067080 according to special relativity the GTJxQD9NUFc-00264-00067081-00067275 energy of an object with rest mass m and GTJxQD9NUFc-00265-00067276-00067536 speed V is given by gamma mc2 where GTJxQD9NUFc-00266-00067537-00067710 gamma is the Lorentz factor defined GTJxQD9NUFc-00267-00067711-00068022 above when V is zero gamma is equal to GTJxQD9NUFc-00268-00068023-00068241 one giving rise to the famous e equals GTJxQD9NUFc-00269-00068242-00068498 mc2 formula for mass energy equivalence GTJxQD9NUFc-00270-00068499-00068778 the gamma factor approaches infinity as GTJxQD9NUFc-00271-00068779-00068985 V approaches C and it would take an GTJxQD9NUFc-00272-00068986-00069153 infinite amount of energy to accelerate GTJxQD9NUFc-00273-00069154-00069348 an object with mass to the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00274-00069349-00069600 light the speed of light is the upper GTJxQD9NUFc-00275-00069601-00069759 limit for the speeds of objects with GTJxQD9NUFc-00276-00069760-00069951 positive rest mass and individual GTJxQD9NUFc-00277-00069952-00070137 photons cannot travel faster than the GTJxQD9NUFc-00278-00070138-00070371 speed of light this is experimentally GTJxQD9NUFc-00279-00070372-00070557 established in many tests of GTJxQD9NUFc-00280-00070558-00070851 relativistic energy and momentum more GTJxQD9NUFc-00281-00070852-00071055 generally it is normally impossible for GTJxQD9NUFc-00282-00071056-00071265 information or energy to travel faster GTJxQD9NUFc-00283-00071266-00071535 than C one argument for this follows GTJxQD9NUFc-00284-00071536-00071736 from the counterintuitive implication of GTJxQD9NUFc-00285-00071737-00071892 special relativity known as the GTJxQD9NUFc-00286-00071893-00072054 relativity of simultaneity GTJxQD9NUFc-00287-00072055-00072306 if the spatial distance between two GTJxQD9NUFc-00288-00072307-00072501 events a and B is greater than the time GTJxQD9NUFc-00289-00072502-00072702 interval between them multiplied by C GTJxQD9NUFc-00290-00072703-00072858 then there are frames of reference in GTJxQD9NUFc-00291-00072859-00073053 which a precedes B others in which B GTJxQD9NUFc-00292-00073054-00073242 precedes a and others in which they are GTJxQD9NUFc-00293-00073243-00073542 simultaneous as a result if something GTJxQD9NUFc-00294-00073543-00073743 were traveling faster than C relative to GTJxQD9NUFc-00295-00073744-00073926 an inertial frame of reference it would GTJxQD9NUFc-00296-00073927-00074112 be traveling backwards in time relative GTJxQD9NUFc-00297-00074113-00074313 to another frame and causality would be GTJxQD9NUFc-00298-00074314-00074607 violated in such a frame of reference an GTJxQD9NUFc-00299-00074608-00074901 effect could be observed before its GTJxQD9NUFc-00300-00074902-00075276 cause such a violation of causality has GTJxQD9NUFc-00301-00075277-00075441 never been recorded and would lead to GTJxQD9NUFc-00302-00075442-00075660 paradoxes such as the tachyonic anti GTJxQD9NUFc-00303-00075661-00076228 telephone GTJxQD9NUFc-00304-00076229-00076536 topic faster-than-light observations and GTJxQD9NUFc-00305-00076537-00076976 experiments GTJxQD9NUFc-00306-00076977-00077174 there are situations in which it may GTJxQD9NUFc-00307-00077175-00077351 seem that matter energy or information GTJxQD9NUFc-00308-00077352-00077588 travels at speeds greater than C but GTJxQD9NUFc-00309-00077589-00077894 they do not for example as is discussed GTJxQD9NUFc-00310-00077895-00078047 in the propagation of light in a medium GTJxQD9NUFc-00311-00078048-00078284 section below many wave velocities can GTJxQD9NUFc-00312-00078285-00078638 exceed C for example the phase velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00313-00078639-00078827 of X rays through most glasses can GTJxQD9NUFc-00314-00078828-00079058 routinely exceed C but phase velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00315-00079059-00079229 does not determine the velocity at which GTJxQD9NUFc-00316-00079230-00079457 waves convey information if a laser beam GTJxQD9NUFc-00317-00079458-00079634 is swept quickly across a distant object GTJxQD9NUFc-00318-00079635-00079886 the spot of light can move faster than C GTJxQD9NUFc-00319-00079887-00080048 although the initial movement of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00320-00080049-00080225 spot is delayed because of the time it GTJxQD9NUFc-00321-00080226-00080414 takes light to get to the distant object GTJxQD9NUFc-00322-00080415-00080696 at the speed C however the only physical GTJxQD9NUFc-00323-00080697-00080867 entities that are moving of the laser GTJxQD9NUFc-00324-00080868-00081068 and its emitted light which travels at GTJxQD9NUFc-00325-00081069-00081215 the speed C from the laser to the GTJxQD9NUFc-00326-00081216-00081500 various positions of the spot similarly GTJxQD9NUFc-00327-00081501-00081698 a shadow projected onto a distant object GTJxQD9NUFc-00328-00081699-00081950 can be made to move faster than C after GTJxQD9NUFc-00329-00081951-00082232 a delay in time in neither case does any GTJxQD9NUFc-00330-00082233-00082448 matter energy or information travel GTJxQD9NUFc-00331-00082449-00082652 faster than light the rate of change in GTJxQD9NUFc-00332-00082653-00082835 the distance between two objects in a GTJxQD9NUFc-00333-00082836-00083012 frame of reference with respect to which GTJxQD9NUFc-00334-00083013-00083216 both are moving their closing speed may GTJxQD9NUFc-00335-00083217-00083516 have a value in excess of C however this GTJxQD9NUFc-00336-00083517-00083669 does not represent the speed of any GTJxQD9NUFc-00337-00083670-00083861 single object as measured in a single GTJxQD9NUFc-00338-00083862-00084077 inertial frame certain quantum effects GTJxQD9NUFc-00339-00084078-00084206 appear to be transmitted instantaneously GTJxQD9NUFc-00340-00084207-00084479 and therefore faster than C as in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00341-00084480-00084800 EPR paradox an example involves the GTJxQD9NUFc-00342-00084801-00085007 quantum states of two particles that can GTJxQD9NUFc-00343-00085008-00085235 be entangled until either of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00344-00085236-00085442 particles is observed they exist in a GTJxQD9NUFc-00345-00085443-00085658 superposition of two quantum states if GTJxQD9NUFc-00346-00085659-00085916 the particles are separated in one GTJxQD9NUFc-00347-00085917-00086138 particles quantum state is observed the GTJxQD9NUFc-00348-00086139-00086288 other particles quantum state is GTJxQD9NUFc-00349-00086289-00086558 determined instantaneously ie faster GTJxQD9NUFc-00350-00086559-00086678 than light could travel from one GTJxQD9NUFc-00351-00086679-00086948 particle to the other however it is GTJxQD9NUFc-00352-00086949-00087122 impossible to control which quantum GTJxQD9NUFc-00353-00087123-00087305 state the first particle will take on GTJxQD9NUFc-00354-00087306-00087458 when it is observed so information GTJxQD9NUFc-00355-00087459-00087644 cannot be transmitted in this manner GTJxQD9NUFc-00356-00087645-00087833 another quantum effect that predicts the GTJxQD9NUFc-00357-00087834-00087971 occurrence of faster-than-light speeds GTJxQD9NUFc-00358-00087972-00088163 is called the Hartman effect under GTJxQD9NUFc-00359-00088164-00088367 certain conditions the time needed for a GTJxQD9NUFc-00360-00088368-00088538 virtual particle to tunnel through a GTJxQD9NUFc-00361-00088539-00088742 barrier is constant regardless of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00362-00088743-00088952 thickness of the barrier this could GTJxQD9NUFc-00363-00088953-00089162 result in a virtual particle crossing a GTJxQD9NUFc-00364-00089163-00089468 large gap faster than light however no GTJxQD9NUFc-00365-00089469-00089633 information can be sent using this GTJxQD9NUFc-00366-00089634-00089855 effect so-called superluminal motion is GTJxQD9NUFc-00367-00089856-00090053 seen in certain astronomical objects GTJxQD9NUFc-00368-00090054-00090254 such as the relativistic Jets of radio GTJxQD9NUFc-00369-00090255-00090415 galaxies and Qui GTJxQD9NUFc-00370-00090416-00090659 however these Jets are not moving at GTJxQD9NUFc-00371-00090660-00090818 speeds in excess of the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00372-00090819-00091028 the apparent superluminal motion is a GTJxQD9NUFc-00373-00091029-00091213 projection effect caused by objects GTJxQD9NUFc-00374-00091214-00091379 moving near the speed of light and GTJxQD9NUFc-00375-00091380-00091559 approaching earth at a small angle to GTJxQD9NUFc-00376-00091560-00091732 the line of sight since the light which GTJxQD9NUFc-00377-00091733-00091882 was emitted when the jet was farther GTJxQD9NUFc-00378-00091883-00092080 away took longer to reach the earth the GTJxQD9NUFc-00379-00092081-00092299 time between two successive observations GTJxQD9NUFc-00380-00092300-00092500 corresponds to a longer time between the GTJxQD9NUFc-00381-00092501-00092660 instance at which the light rays were GTJxQD9NUFc-00382-00092661-00092837 emitted in models of the expanding GTJxQD9NUFc-00383-00092838-00093031 universe the father galaxies are from GTJxQD9NUFc-00384-00093032-00093088 each other GTJxQD9NUFc-00385-00093089-00093325 the faster they drift apart this GTJxQD9NUFc-00386-00093326-00093518 receding is not due to motion through GTJxQD9NUFc-00387-00093519-00093716 space but rather to the expansion of GTJxQD9NUFc-00388-00093717-00094051 space itself for example galaxies far GTJxQD9NUFc-00389-00094052-00094225 away from Earth appear to be moving away GTJxQD9NUFc-00390-00094226-00094393 from the earth with a speed proportional GTJxQD9NUFc-00391-00094394-00094675 to the distances beyond the boundary GTJxQD9NUFc-00392-00094676-00094849 called the Hubble sphere the rate at GTJxQD9NUFc-00393-00094850-00095026 which the distance from Earth increases GTJxQD9NUFc-00394-00095027-00095727 becomes greater than the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00395-00095728-00096303 topic propagation of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00396-00096304-00096570 in classical physics light is described GTJxQD9NUFc-00397-00096571-00096852 as a type of electromagnetic wave the GTJxQD9NUFc-00398-00096853-00096978 classical behavior of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00399-00096979-00097197 electromagnetic field is described by GTJxQD9NUFc-00400-00097198-00097398 Maxwell's equations which predict that GTJxQD9NUFc-00401-00097399-00097554 the speed C with which electromagnetic GTJxQD9NUFc-00402-00097555-00097785 waves such as light propagate through GTJxQD9NUFc-00403-00097786-00097980 the vacuum is related to the distributed GTJxQD9NUFc-00404-00097981-00098184 capacitance and inductance of the vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-00405-00098185-00098355 otherwise respectively known as the GTJxQD9NUFc-00406-00098356-00098559 electric constant epsilon zero and the GTJxQD9NUFc-00407-00098560-00098742 magnetic constant mu zero by the GTJxQD9NUFc-00408-00098743-00099321 equation C equals one GTJxQD9NUFc-00409-00099322-00100005 epsilon zero mu zero display style C GTJxQD9NUFc-00410-00100006-00100301 equals frac 1sq RT ver epsilon GTJxQD9NUFc-00411-00100302-00100588 underscore zero mu underscore zero in GTJxQD9NUFc-00412-00100589-00100799 modern quantum physics the GTJxQD9NUFc-00413-00100800-00101016 electromagnetic field is described by GTJxQD9NUFc-00414-00101017-00101225 the theory of quantum electrodynamics GTJxQD9NUFc-00415-00101226-00101561 QED in this theory light is described by GTJxQD9NUFc-00416-00101562-00101792 the fundamental excitations or quanta of GTJxQD9NUFc-00417-00101793-00102029 the electromagnetic field called photons GTJxQD9NUFc-00418-00102030-00102399 in QED photons are massless particles in GTJxQD9NUFc-00419-00102400-00102578 thus according to special relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-00420-00102579-00102767 they travel at the speed of light in GTJxQD9NUFc-00421-00102768-00103106 vacuum extensions of QED in which the GTJxQD9NUFc-00422-00103107-00103307 photon has a mass have been considered GTJxQD9NUFc-00423-00103308-00103575 in such a theory its speed would depend GTJxQD9NUFc-00424-00103576-00103788 on its frequency and the invariant speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00425-00103789-00103991 see of special relativity would then be GTJxQD9NUFc-00426-00103992-00104163 the upper limit of the speed of light in GTJxQD9NUFc-00427-00104164-00104424 vacuum no variation of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00428-00104425-00104615 light with frequency has been observed GTJxQD9NUFc-00429-00104616-00104810 in rigorous testing putting stringent GTJxQD9NUFc-00430-00104811-00105053 limits on the mass of the photon the GTJxQD9NUFc-00431-00105054-00105246 limit obtained depends on the model used GTJxQD9NUFc-00432-00105247-00105456 if the massive photon is described by GTJxQD9NUFc-00433-00105457-00105657 prokhor theory the experimental upper GTJxQD9NUFc-00434-00105658-00105948 bound for its mass is about 10-15 grams GTJxQD9NUFc-00435-00105949-00106178 if photon mass is generated by a Higgs GTJxQD9NUFc-00436-00106179-00106385 mechanism the experimental upper limit GTJxQD9NUFc-00437-00106386-00106743 is less sharp M 10-14 electron volts C - GTJxQD9NUFc-00438-00106744-00107181 roughly 2 times 10 - 47 grams another GTJxQD9NUFc-00439-00107182-00107360 reason for the speed of light to vary GTJxQD9NUFc-00440-00107361-00107523 with its frequency would be the failure GTJxQD9NUFc-00441-00107524-00107702 of special relativity to apply to GTJxQD9NUFc-00442-00107703-00107954 arbitrarily small scales as predicted by GTJxQD9NUFc-00443-00107955-00108102 some proposed theories of quantum GTJxQD9NUFc-00444-00108103-00108489 gravity in 2009 the observation of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00445-00108490-00108777 spectrum of gamma ray bursts GRB o9o 5 GTJxQD9NUFc-00446-00108778-00108983 100 did not find any difference in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00447-00108984-00109173 speeds of photons of different energies GTJxQD9NUFc-00448-00109174-00109368 confirming that Lawrence invariance is GTJxQD9NUFc-00449-00109369-00109553 verified at least down to the scale of GTJxQD9NUFc-00450-00109554-00109839 the Planck length L P equals square root GTJxQD9NUFc-00451-00109840-00110189 G c3 approximately equals 1 point 6 1 6 GTJxQD9NUFc-00452-00110190-00110544 3 times 10 - 35 meters divided by 1 GTJxQD9NUFc-00453-00110545-00110753 point 2 GTJxQD9NUFc-00454-00110754-00111189 equals GTJxQD9NUFc-00455-00111190-00111703 topic in a medium GTJxQD9NUFc-00456-00111704-00112054 equals in a medium light usually does GTJxQD9NUFc-00457-00112055-00112249 not propagate at a speed equal to see GTJxQD9NUFc-00458-00112250-00112441 further different types of light wave GTJxQD9NUFc-00459-00112442-00112696 will travel at different speeds the GTJxQD9NUFc-00460-00112697-00112884 speed at which the individual crests and GTJxQD9NUFc-00461-00112885-00113080 troughs of a plane wave a wave filling GTJxQD9NUFc-00462-00113081-00113269 the whole space with only one frequency GTJxQD9NUFc-00463-00113270-00113497 propagate is called the phase velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00464-00113498-00113776 VP an actual physical signal with a GTJxQD9NUFc-00465-00113777-00114019 finite extent a pulse of light travels GTJxQD9NUFc-00466-00114020-00114285 at a different speed the largest part of GTJxQD9NUFc-00467-00114286-00114433 the pulse travels at the group velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00468-00114433-00114697 VG and its earliest part travels at the GTJxQD9NUFc-00469-00114698-00115045 front velocity VF the phase velocity is GTJxQD9NUFc-00470-00115046-00115222 important in determining how a light GTJxQD9NUFc-00471-00115223-00115417 wave travels through a material or from GTJxQD9NUFc-00472-00115418-00115663 one material to another it is often GTJxQD9NUFc-00473-00115664-00115858 represented in terms of a refractive GTJxQD9NUFc-00474-00115858-00116085 index the refractive index of a material GTJxQD9NUFc-00475-00116086-00116323 is defined as the ratio of C to the GTJxQD9NUFc-00476-00116324-00116569 phase velocity VP in the material larger GTJxQD9NUFc-00477-00116570-00116749 indices of refraction indicate lower GTJxQD9NUFc-00478-00116750-00117019 speeds the refractive index of a GTJxQD9NUFc-00479-00117020-00117181 material may depend on the light's GTJxQD9NUFc-00480-00117182-00117448 frequency intensity polarization or GTJxQD9NUFc-00481-00117449-00117684 direction of propagation in many cases GTJxQD9NUFc-00482-00117685-00117885 though it can be treated as a material GTJxQD9NUFc-00483-00117886-00118147 dependent constant the refractive index GTJxQD9NUFc-00484-00118148-00118558 of air is approximately 1.000 3 denser GTJxQD9NUFc-00485-00118558-00118813 media such as water glass and diamond GTJxQD9NUFc-00486-00118814-00119077 have refractive indexes of around 1.3 GTJxQD9NUFc-00487-00119078-00119433 1.5 and 2.4 respectively for visible GTJxQD9NUFc-00488-00119434-00119685 light in exotic materials like GTJxQD9NUFc-00489-00119686-00119905 bose-einstein condensates near absolute GTJxQD9NUFc-00490-00119906-00120118 zero the effective speed of light may be GTJxQD9NUFc-00491-00120119-00120373 only a few meters per second however GTJxQD9NUFc-00492-00120374-00120577 this represents absorption and re GTJxQD9NUFc-00493-00120578-00120810 radiation delay between atoms as do all GTJxQD9NUFc-00494-00120811-00121006 slower than C speeds in material GTJxQD9NUFc-00495-00121007-00121300 substances as an extreme example of GTJxQD9NUFc-00496-00121301-00121618 light slowing in matter two independent GTJxQD9NUFc-00497-00121619-00121804 teams of physicists claim to bring light GTJxQD9NUFc-00498-00121805-00122109 to a complete standstill by passing it GTJxQD9NUFc-00499-00122110-00122283 through a bose-einstein condensate of GTJxQD9NUFc-00500-00122284-00122482 the element rubidium one team at Harvard GTJxQD9NUFc-00501-00122483-00122704 University in the Roland Institute for GTJxQD9NUFc-00502-00122705-00122899 science in Cambridge Massachusetts and GTJxQD9NUFc-00503-00122900-00123022 the other at the harvard-smithsonian GTJxQD9NUFc-00504-00123023-00123261 Center for Astrophysics also in GTJxQD9NUFc-00505-00123263-00123514 Cambridge however the popular GTJxQD9NUFc-00506-00123515-00123739 description of light being stopped in GTJxQD9NUFc-00507-00123740-00123979 these experiments refers only to light GTJxQD9NUFc-00508-00123980-00124161 being stored in the excited states of GTJxQD9NUFc-00509-00124163-00124363 atoms then RIA mitad at an arbitrarily GTJxQD9NUFc-00510-00124364-00124591 later time as stimulated by a second GTJxQD9NUFc-00511-00124592-00124852 laser pulse during the time it had GTJxQD9NUFc-00512-00124853-00125143 stopped it had ceased to be light GTJxQD9NUFc-00513-00125144-00125347 this type of behavior is generally GTJxQD9NUFc-00514-00125348-00125545 microscopically true of all transparent GTJxQD9NUFc-00515-00125546-00125866 media which slow the speed of light in GTJxQD9NUFc-00516-00125867-00126084 transparent materials the refractive GTJxQD9NUFc-00517-00126085-00126253 index generally is greater than one GTJxQD9NUFc-00518-00126254-00126442 meaning that the phase velocity is less GTJxQD9NUFc-00519-00126443-00126766 than C in other materials it is possible GTJxQD9NUFc-00520-00126767-00126919 for the refractive index to become GTJxQD9NUFc-00521-00126920-00127132 smaller than one for some frequencies in GTJxQD9NUFc-00522-00127133-00127330 some exotic materials it is even GTJxQD9NUFc-00523-00127331-00127525 possible for the index of refraction to GTJxQD9NUFc-00524-00127526-00127765 become negative the requirement that GTJxQD9NUFc-00525-00127766-00127983 causality is not violated implies that GTJxQD9NUFc-00526-00127984-00128149 the real and imaginary parts of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00527-00128150-00128344 dielectric constant of any material GTJxQD9NUFc-00528-00128345-00128542 corresponding respectively to the index GTJxQD9NUFc-00529-00128543-00128704 of refraction and to the attenuation GTJxQD9NUFc-00530-00128705-00128902 coefficient are linked by the Kramer's GTJxQD9NUFc-00531-00128903-00129238 Kronig relations in practical terms this GTJxQD9NUFc-00532-00129239-00129433 means that in a material with refractive GTJxQD9NUFc-00533-00129433-00129636 index less than 1 the absorption of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00534-00129638-00129823 wave is so quick that no signal can be GTJxQD9NUFc-00535-00129824-00130117 sent faster than see a pulse with GTJxQD9NUFc-00536-00130118-00130288 different group and phase velocities GTJxQD9NUFc-00537-00130289-00130480 which occurs if the phase velocity is GTJxQD9NUFc-00538-00130481-00130659 not the same for all the frequencies of GTJxQD9NUFc-00539-00130660-00130918 the pulse smears out over time a process GTJxQD9NUFc-00540-00130919-00131200 known as dispersion certain materials GTJxQD9NUFc-00541-00131201-00131377 have an exceptionally low or even zero GTJxQD9NUFc-00542-00131378-00131599 group velocity for light waves a GTJxQD9NUFc-00543-00131600-00131797 phenomenon called slow light which has GTJxQD9NUFc-00544-00131798-00132024 been confirmed in various experiments GTJxQD9NUFc-00545-00132025-00132313 the opposite group velocities exceeding GTJxQD9NUFc-00546-00132314-00132622 C has also been shown in experiment it GTJxQD9NUFc-00547-00132623-00132784 should even be possible for the group GTJxQD9NUFc-00548-00132785-00132991 velocity to become infinite or negative GTJxQD9NUFc-00549-00132992-00133225 with pulses traveling instantaneously or GTJxQD9NUFc-00550-00133226-00133579 backwards in time none of these options GTJxQD9NUFc-00551-00133580-00133786 however allow information to be GTJxQD9NUFc-00552-00133787-00134038 transmitted faster than C it is GTJxQD9NUFc-00553-00134039-00134236 impossible to transmit information with GTJxQD9NUFc-00554-00134237-00134422 a light pulse any faster than the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00555-00134423-00134593 of the earliest part of the pulse the GTJxQD9NUFc-00556-00134594-00134866 front velocity it can be shown that this GTJxQD9NUFc-00557-00134867-00135067 is under certain assumptions always GTJxQD9NUFc-00558-00135068-00135253 equal to C GTJxQD9NUFc-00559-00135254-00135457 it is possible for a particle to travel GTJxQD9NUFc-00560-00135458-00135616 through a medium faster than the phase GTJxQD9NUFc-00561-00135617-00135811 velocity of light in that medium but GTJxQD9NUFc-00562-00135812-00136063 still slower than C when a charged GTJxQD9NUFc-00563-00136064-00136237 particle does that in a dielectric GTJxQD9NUFc-00564-00136238-00136459 material the electromagnetic equivalent GTJxQD9NUFc-00565-00136460-00136633 of a shock wave known as Cherenkov GTJxQD9NUFc-00566-00136634-00137279 radiation is emitted GTJxQD9NUFc-00567-00137280-00137942 topic practical effects of finiteness GTJxQD9NUFc-00568-00137943-00138140 the speed of light is of relevance to GTJxQD9NUFc-00569-00138141-00138242 communications GTJxQD9NUFc-00570-00138243-00138461 the one way in round-trip delay time are GTJxQD9NUFc-00571-00138462-00138551 greater than zero GTJxQD9NUFc-00572-00138552-00138806 this applies from small to astronomical GTJxQD9NUFc-00573-00138807-00139097 scales on the other hand some techniques GTJxQD9NUFc-00574-00139098-00139313 depend on the finite speed of light for GTJxQD9NUFc-00575-00139314-00139976 example in distance measurements GTJxQD9NUFc-00576-00139977-00140526 topic small scales GTJxQD9NUFc-00577-00140527-00140775 in supercomputers the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00578-00140776-00141009 imposes a limit on how quickly data can GTJxQD9NUFc-00579-00141010-00141261 be sent between processors if a GTJxQD9NUFc-00580-00141262-00141471 processor operates at one gigahertz a GTJxQD9NUFc-00581-00141472-00141663 signal can only travel a maximum of GTJxQD9NUFc-00582-00141664-00141894 about 30 centimeters one foot in a GTJxQD9NUFc-00583-00141895-00142185 single cycle processes must therefore be GTJxQD9NUFc-00584-00142186-00142371 placed close to each other to minimize GTJxQD9NUFc-00585-00142372-00142596 communication Layton sees this can cause GTJxQD9NUFc-00586-00142597-00142839 difficulty with cooling if clock GTJxQD9NUFc-00587-00142840-00143043 frequencies continue to increase the GTJxQD9NUFc-00588-00143044-00143214 speed of light will eventually become a GTJxQD9NUFc-00589-00143215-00143394 limiting factor for the internal design GTJxQD9NUFc-00590-00143395-00144004 of single chips GTJxQD9NUFc-00591-00144005-00144600 topic large distances on earth GTJxQD9NUFc-00592-00144601-00144803 given that the equatorial circumference GTJxQD9NUFc-00593-00144804-00145068 of the earth is about 40,000 and 75 GTJxQD9NUFc-00594-00145069-00145344 kilometers in that sea is about 300,000 GTJxQD9NUFc-00595-00145345-00145548 kilometers per second the theoretical GTJxQD9NUFc-00596-00145549-00145712 shortest time for a piece of information GTJxQD9NUFc-00597-00145713-00145901 to travel half the globe along the GTJxQD9NUFc-00598-00145902-00146235 surface is about 67 milliseconds when GTJxQD9NUFc-00599-00146236-00146397 light is travelling around the globe in GTJxQD9NUFc-00600-00146398-00146625 an optical fiber the actual transit time GTJxQD9NUFc-00601-00146626-00146832 is longer in part because the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00602-00146833-00147096 light is slower by about 35% in an GTJxQD9NUFc-00603-00147097-00147258 optical fiber depending on its GTJxQD9NUFc-00604-00147259-00147554 refractive index n furthermore straight GTJxQD9NUFc-00605-00147555-00147716 lines rarely occur in global GTJxQD9NUFc-00606-00147717-00147950 communication situations and delays are GTJxQD9NUFc-00607-00147951-00148125 created when the signal passes through GTJxQD9NUFc-00608-00148126-00148281 an electronic switch or signal GTJxQD9NUFc-00609-00148282-00148837 regenerator GTJxQD9NUFc-00610-00148838-00149431 topic spaceflights and astronomy GTJxQD9NUFc-00611-00149432-00149662 similarly communications between the GTJxQD9NUFc-00612-00149663-00149797 earth and spacecraft are not GTJxQD9NUFc-00613-00149798-00150022 instantaneous there is a brief delay GTJxQD9NUFc-00614-00150023-00150196 from the source to the receiver which GTJxQD9NUFc-00615-00150197-00150388 becomes more noticeable as distances GTJxQD9NUFc-00616-00150389-00150658 increase this delay was significant for GTJxQD9NUFc-00617-00150659-00150862 communications between ground control GTJxQD9NUFc-00618-00150863-00151018 and Apollo 8 when it became the first GTJxQD9NUFc-00619-00151019-00151249 manned spacecraft to orbit the moon for GTJxQD9NUFc-00620-00151250-00151417 every question the ground control GTJxQD9NUFc-00621-00151418-00151579 station had to wait at least three GTJxQD9NUFc-00622-00151580-00151843 seconds for the answer to arrive the GTJxQD9NUFc-00623-00151844-00152038 communications delay between Earth and GTJxQD9NUFc-00624-00152039-00152248 Mars can vary between five and 20 GTJxQD9NUFc-00625-00152249-00152389 minutes depending upon the relative GTJxQD9NUFc-00626-00152390-00152656 positions of the two planets as a GTJxQD9NUFc-00627-00152657-00152863 consequence of this if a robot on the GTJxQD9NUFc-00628-00152864-00153043 surface of Mars were to encounter a GTJxQD9NUFc-00629-00153044-00153238 problem its human controllers would not GTJxQD9NUFc-00630-00153239-00153397 be aware of it until at least five GTJxQD9NUFc-00631-00153398-00153607 minutes later and possibly up to 20 GTJxQD9NUFc-00632-00153608-00153757 minutes later it would then take a GTJxQD9NUFc-00633-00153758-00153922 further five to 20 minutes for GTJxQD9NUFc-00634-00153923-00154102 instructions to travel from Earth to GTJxQD9NUFc-00635-00154103-00154420 Mars NASA must wait several hours for GTJxQD9NUFc-00636-00154421-00154570 information from a probe orbiting GTJxQD9NUFc-00637-00154571-00154771 Jupiter and if it needs to correct a GTJxQD9NUFc-00638-00154772-00154969 navigation error the fix will not arrive GTJxQD9NUFc-00639-00154970-00155155 at the spacecraft for an equal amount of GTJxQD9NUFc-00640-00155156-00155359 time creating a risk of the correction GTJxQD9NUFc-00641-00155360-00155674 not arriving in time receiving light and GTJxQD9NUFc-00642-00155675-00155830 other signals from distant astronomical GTJxQD9NUFc-00643-00155831-00156148 sources can even take much longer for GTJxQD9NUFc-00644-00156149-00156454 example it has taken 13 billion 13 times GTJxQD9NUFc-00645-00156455-00156712 109 years for light to travel to earth GTJxQD9NUFc-00646-00156713-00156910 from the faraway galaxies viewed in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00647-00156911-00157180 Hubble Ultra Deep Field images those GTJxQD9NUFc-00648-00157181-00157432 photographs taken today capture images GTJxQD9NUFc-00649-00157433-00157621 of the galaxies as they appeared 13 GTJxQD9NUFc-00650-00157622-00157819 billion years ago when the universe was GTJxQD9NUFc-00651-00157820-00158071 less than a billion years old the fact GTJxQD9NUFc-00652-00158072-00158242 that more distant objects appear to be GTJxQD9NUFc-00653-00158243-00158443 younger due to the finite speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00654-00158444-00158599 allows astronomers to infer the GTJxQD9NUFc-00655-00158600-00158845 evolution of stars of galaxies and of GTJxQD9NUFc-00656-00158846-00159142 the universe itself astronomical GTJxQD9NUFc-00657-00159143-00159328 distances are sometimes expressed in GTJxQD9NUFc-00658-00159329-00159517 light years especially in popular GTJxQD9NUFc-00659-00159518-00159790 science publications and media a light GTJxQD9NUFc-00660-00159791-00159970 year is the distance light travels in GTJxQD9NUFc-00661-00159971-00160156 one year around nine thousand four GTJxQD9NUFc-00662-00160157-00160366 hundred and sixty 1 billion kilometres GTJxQD9NUFc-00663-00160367-00160570 five thousand eight hundred and seventy GTJxQD9NUFc-00664-00160571-00160984 nine billion miles or 0.3 o66 parsecs in GTJxQD9NUFc-00665-00160985-00161248 round figures a light year is nearly ten GTJxQD9NUFc-00666-00161249-00161434 trillion kilometres or nearly six GTJxQD9NUFc-00667-00161435-00161737 trillion miles Proxima Centauri the GTJxQD9NUFc-00668-00161738-00161947 closest star to earth after the Sun is GTJxQD9NUFc-00669-00161948-00162313 around 4.2 light-years away GTJxQD9NUFc-00670-00162314-00162654 you GTJxQD9NUFc-00671-00162655-00163190 topic distance measurement GTJxQD9NUFc-00672-00163191-00163424 radar systems measure the distance to a GTJxQD9NUFc-00673-00163425-00163640 target by the time it takes a radio wave GTJxQD9NUFc-00674-00163641-00163816 pulse to return to the radar antenna GTJxQD9NUFc-00675-00163817-00164045 after being reflected by the target the GTJxQD9NUFc-00676-00164046-00164213 distance to the target is half the GTJxQD9NUFc-00677-00164214-00164420 round-trip transit time multiplied by GTJxQD9NUFc-00678-00164421-00164660 the speed of light a Global Positioning GTJxQD9NUFc-00679-00164661-00164918 System GPS receiver measures its GTJxQD9NUFc-00680-00164919-00165158 distance to GPS satellites based on how GTJxQD9NUFc-00681-00165159-00165326 long it takes for a radio signal to GTJxQD9NUFc-00682-00165327-00165518 arrive from each satellite and from GTJxQD9NUFc-00683-00165519-00165722 these distances calculates the receivers GTJxQD9NUFc-00684-00165723-00165982 position because light travels about GTJxQD9NUFc-00685-00165983-00166406 300,000 kilometers 186,000 miles in one GTJxQD9NUFc-00686-00166407-00166579 second these measurements of small GTJxQD9NUFc-00687-00166580-00166751 fractions of a second must be very GTJxQD9NUFc-00688-00166752-00166997 precise the lunar laser ranging GTJxQD9NUFc-00689-00166998-00167222 experiment radar astronomy in the Deep GTJxQD9NUFc-00690-00167223-00167435 Space Network determined distances to GTJxQD9NUFc-00691-00167436-00167593 the moon planets and spacecraft GTJxQD9NUFc-00692-00167594-00167815 respectively by measuring round-trip GTJxQD9NUFc-00693-00167816-00168408 transit times GTJxQD9NUFc-00694-00168409-00168989 topic high-frequency trading GTJxQD9NUFc-00695-00168990-00169223 the speed of light has become important GTJxQD9NUFc-00696-00169224-00169433 in high-frequency trading where traders GTJxQD9NUFc-00697-00169434-00169613 seek to gain minute advantages by GTJxQD9NUFc-00698-00169614-00169787 delivering the trades to exchanges GTJxQD9NUFc-00699-00169788-00169946 fractions of a second ahead of other GTJxQD9NUFc-00700-00169947-00170234 traders for example traders have been GTJxQD9NUFc-00701-00170235-00170438 switching to microwave communications GTJxQD9NUFc-00702-00170439-00170621 between trading hubs because of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00703-00170622-00170822 advantage which microwaves traveling at GTJxQD9NUFc-00704-00170823-00170989 near to the speed of light in air have GTJxQD9NUFc-00705-00170990-00171194 over fiber-optic signals which travel GTJxQD9NUFc-00706-00171195-00171379 thirty to forty percent slower at the GTJxQD9NUFc-00707-00171380-00172037 speed of light through glass GTJxQD9NUFc-00708-00172038-00172545 topic measurement GTJxQD9NUFc-00709-00172546-00172731 there are different ways to determine GTJxQD9NUFc-00710-00172732-00172974 the value of C one way is to measure the GTJxQD9NUFc-00711-00172975-00173142 actual speed at which light waves GTJxQD9NUFc-00712-00173143-00173310 propagate which can be done in various GTJxQD9NUFc-00713-00173311-00173570 astronomical and earth-based setups GTJxQD9NUFc-00714-00173571-00173835 however it is also possible to determine GTJxQD9NUFc-00715-00173836-00174033 C from other physical laws where it GTJxQD9NUFc-00716-00174034-00174255 appears for example by determining the GTJxQD9NUFc-00717-00174256-00174462 values of the electromagnetic constants GTJxQD9NUFc-00718-00174463-00174690 epsilon 0 and mu 0 and using their GTJxQD9NUFc-00719-00174691-00174972 relation to see historically the most GTJxQD9NUFc-00720-00174973-00175149 accurate results have been obtained by GTJxQD9NUFc-00721-00175150-00175347 separately determining the frequency and GTJxQD9NUFc-00722-00175348-00175506 wavelength of a light beam with the GTJxQD9NUFc-00723-00175507-00175911 product equaling C in 1983 the metre was GTJxQD9NUFc-00724-00175912-00176112 defined as the length of the path GTJxQD9NUFc-00725-00176113-00176334 travelled by light in vacuum during a GTJxQD9NUFc-00726-00176335-00177027 time interval of 1 299,792,458 of a GTJxQD9NUFc-00727-00177028-00177321 second fixing the value of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00728-00177322-00177942 light at 299,792,458 meters per second GTJxQD9NUFc-00729-00177943-00178178 by definition as described below GTJxQD9NUFc-00730-00178179-00178401 consequently accurate measurements of GTJxQD9NUFc-00731-00178402-00178563 the speed of light yield inaccurate GTJxQD9NUFc-00732-00178564-00178746 realization of the meter rather than an GTJxQD9NUFc-00733-00178747-00179019 accurate value of C GTJxQD9NUFc-00734-00179020-00179357 you GTJxQD9NUFc-00735-00179358-00179936 topic astronomical measurements GTJxQD9NUFc-00736-00179937-00180191 outer space is a convenient setting for GTJxQD9NUFc-00737-00180192-00180353 measuring the speed of light because of GTJxQD9NUFc-00738-00180354-00180607 its large scale in nearly perfect vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-00739-00180608-00180836 typically one measures the time needed GTJxQD9NUFc-00740-00180837-00180998 for light to traverse some reference GTJxQD9NUFc-00741-00180999-00181208 distance in the solar system such as the GTJxQD9NUFc-00742-00181209-00181487 radius of the Earth's orbit historically GTJxQD9NUFc-00743-00181488-00181673 such measurements could be made fairly GTJxQD9NUFc-00744-00181674-00181853 accurately compared to how accurately GTJxQD9NUFc-00745-00181854-00182024 the length of the reference distance is GTJxQD9NUFc-00746-00182025-00182279 known in earth-based units it is GTJxQD9NUFc-00747-00182280-00182456 customary to express the results in GTJxQD9NUFc-00748-00182457-00182759 astronomical units Oh per day old GTJxQD9NUFc-00749-00182760-00182978 Kristensen Romo used an astronomical GTJxQD9NUFc-00750-00182979-00183095 measurement to make the first GTJxQD9NUFc-00751-00183096-00183275 quantitative estimate of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00752-00183276-00183509 light when measured from Earth the GTJxQD9NUFc-00753-00183510-00183659 periods of moons orbiting a distant GTJxQD9NUFc-00754-00183660-00183848 planet are shorter when the earth is GTJxQD9NUFc-00755-00183849-00183986 approaching the planet than when the GTJxQD9NUFc-00756-00183987-00184232 earth is receding from it the distance GTJxQD9NUFc-00757-00184233-00184421 traveled by light from the planet or its GTJxQD9NUFc-00758-00184422-00184598 moon to earth is shorter when the earth GTJxQD9NUFc-00759-00184599-00184760 is at the point in its orbit that is GTJxQD9NUFc-00760-00184761-00184913 closest to its planet than when the GTJxQD9NUFc-00761-00184914-00185069 earth is at the farthest point in its GTJxQD9NUFc-00762-00185070-00185255 orbit the difference in distance being GTJxQD9NUFc-00763-00185256-00185417 the diameter of the Earth's orbit around GTJxQD9NUFc-00764-00185418-00185678 the Sun the observed change in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00765-00185679-00185870 moon's orbital period is caused by the GTJxQD9NUFc-00766-00185871-00186041 difference in the time it takes light to GTJxQD9NUFc-00767-00186042-00186280 traverse the shorter or longer distance GTJxQD9NUFc-00768-00186281-00186539 Romo observed this effect for Jupiter's GTJxQD9NUFc-00769-00186540-00186737 innermost moon Io and deduced that light GTJxQD9NUFc-00770-00186738-00186974 takes 22 minutes to cross the diameter GTJxQD9NUFc-00771-00186975-00187253 of the Earth's orbit another method is GTJxQD9NUFc-00772-00187254-00187394 to use the aberration of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00773-00187395-00187580 discovered and explained by James GTJxQD9NUFc-00774-00187581-00187874 Bradley in the 18th century this effect GTJxQD9NUFc-00775-00187875-00188033 results from the vector addition of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00776-00188034-00188192 velocity of light arriving from a GTJxQD9NUFc-00777-00188193-00188390 distant source such as a star and the GTJxQD9NUFc-00778-00188391-00188609 velocity of its observer see diagram on GTJxQD9NUFc-00779-00188610-00188870 the right a moving observer thus sees GTJxQD9NUFc-00780-00188871-00188999 the light coming from a slightly GTJxQD9NUFc-00781-00189000-00189191 different direction and consequently GTJxQD9NUFc-00782-00189192-00189380 sees the source at a position shifted GTJxQD9NUFc-00783-00189381-00189626 from its original position since the GTJxQD9NUFc-00784-00189627-00189779 direction of the Earth's velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00785-00189780-00189965 changes continuously as the Earth orbits GTJxQD9NUFc-00786-00189966-00190196 the Sun this effect causes the apparent GTJxQD9NUFc-00787-00190197-00190457 position of stars to move around from GTJxQD9NUFc-00788-00190458-00190619 the angular difference in the position GTJxQD9NUFc-00789-00190620-00190922 of stars maximally 20.5 arc seconds it GTJxQD9NUFc-00790-00190923-00191102 is possible to express the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00791-00191103-00191285 light in terms of the Earth's velocity GTJxQD9NUFc-00792-00191286-00191432 around the Sun which with the known GTJxQD9NUFc-00793-00191433-00191612 length of a year can be converted to the GTJxQD9NUFc-00794-00191613-00191768 time needed to travel from the Sun to GTJxQD9NUFc-00795-00191769-00192131 the earth in 1729 bradley used this GTJxQD9NUFc-00796-00192132-00192329 method to derive that light traveled ten GTJxQD9NUFc-00797-00192330-00192500 thousand two hundred and ten times GTJxQD9NUFc-00798-00192501-00192671 faster than the earth in its orbit GTJxQD9NUFc-00799-00192672-00192851 the modern figure is ten thousand and GTJxQD9NUFc-00800-00192852-00193091 sixty-six times faster or equivalently GTJxQD9NUFc-00801-00193092-00193259 that it would take light eight minutes GTJxQD9NUFc-00802-00193260-00193328 12 GTJxQD9NUFc-00803-00193329-00193967 to travel from the Sun to the earth GTJxQD9NUFc-00804-00193968-00194494 topic astronomical unit GTJxQD9NUFc-00805-00194495-00194763 an astronomical unit Oh is approximately GTJxQD9NUFc-00806-00194764-00194904 the average distance between the Earth GTJxQD9NUFc-00807-00194905-00195244 and Sun it was redefined in 2012 as GTJxQD9NUFc-00808-00195245-00195661 exactly 149 billion 597 million eight GTJxQD9NUFc-00809-00195662-00195835 hundred and seventy thousand seven GTJxQD9NUFc-00810-00195836-00196132 hundred meters previously the AU was not GTJxQD9NUFc-00811-00196133-00196302 based on the International System of GTJxQD9NUFc-00812-00196303-00196483 Units but in terms of the gravitational GTJxQD9NUFc-00813-00196484-00196672 force exerted by the Sun in the GTJxQD9NUFc-00814-00196673-00196938 framework of classical mechanics the GTJxQD9NUFc-00815-00196939-00197131 current definition uses the recommended GTJxQD9NUFc-00816-00197132-00197289 value in meters for the previous GTJxQD9NUFc-00817-00197290-00197443 definition of the astronomical unit GTJxQD9NUFc-00818-00197444-00197731 which was determined by measurement this GTJxQD9NUFc-00819-00197732-00197925 redefinition is analogous to that of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00820-00197926-00198112 meter and likewise has the effect of GTJxQD9NUFc-00821-00198113-00198288 fixing the speed of light to an exact GTJxQD9NUFc-00822-00198289-00198501 value in astronomical units per second GTJxQD9NUFc-00823-00198502-00198666 by the exact speed of light in meters GTJxQD9NUFc-00824-00198667-00199033 per second previously the inverse of C GTJxQD9NUFc-00825-00199034-00199231 expressed in seconds per astronomical GTJxQD9NUFc-00826-00199232-00199413 unit was measured by comparing the time GTJxQD9NUFc-00827-00199414-00199582 for radio signals to reach different GTJxQD9NUFc-00828-00199583-00199803 spacecraft in the Solar System with the GTJxQD9NUFc-00829-00199804-00199948 position calculated from the GTJxQD9NUFc-00830-00199949-00200122 gravitational effects of the Sun and GTJxQD9NUFc-00831-00200123-00200410 various planets by combining many such GTJxQD9NUFc-00832-00200411-00200604 measurements a best-fit value for the GTJxQD9NUFc-00833-00200605-00200766 light time per unit distance could be GTJxQD9NUFc-00834-00200767-00201157 obtained for example in 2009 the best GTJxQD9NUFc-00835-00201158-00201291 estimate as approved by the GTJxQD9NUFc-00836-00201292-00201585 International Astronomical Union IAU was GTJxQD9NUFc-00837-00201586-00201924 like time for unit distance tau equals GTJxQD9NUFc-00838-00201925-00202266 499 zero four seven eight three eight GTJxQD9NUFc-00839-00202267-00202981 three six 10s see GTJxQD9NUFc-00840-00202982-00203316 topic zero point zero two zero three GTJxQD9NUFc-00841-00203317-00203574 nine eight eight eight oh four 104 GTJxQD9NUFc-00842-00203575-00204187 astronomical unit per second GTJxQD9NUFc-00843-00204188-00204430 one hundred and seventy three point one GTJxQD9NUFc-00844-00204431-00204676 four four six three two six seven four GTJxQD9NUFc-00845-00204677-00204873 three Oh / day the relative uncertainty GTJxQD9NUFc-00846-00204875-00205114 in these measurements is zero point O GTJxQD9NUFc-00847-00205115-00205375 two parts per billion two times 10 - 11 GTJxQD9NUFc-00848-00205376-00205564 equivalent to the uncertainty in GTJxQD9NUFc-00849-00205565-00205726 earth-based measurements of length by GTJxQD9NUFc-00850-00205727-00205978 interferometry since the metre is GTJxQD9NUFc-00851-00205979-00206137 defined to be the length travelled by GTJxQD9NUFc-00852-00206138-00206326 light in a certain time interval the GTJxQD9NUFc-00853-00206327-00206479 measurement of the light time in terms GTJxQD9NUFc-00854-00206480-00206629 of the previous definition of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00855-00206630-00206788 astronomical unit can also be GTJxQD9NUFc-00856-00206789-00206950 interpreted as measuring the length of GTJxQD9NUFc-00857-00206951-00207623 an old definition in metres GTJxQD9NUFc-00858-00207625-00208206 topic time-of-flight techniques GTJxQD9NUFc-00859-00208207-00208415 a method of measuring the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00860-00208416-00208587 is to measure the time needed for light GTJxQD9NUFc-00861-00208588-00208731 to travel to a mirror at a known GTJxQD9NUFc-00862-00208732-00208994 distance and back this is the working GTJxQD9NUFc-00863-00208996-00209178 principle behind the facade Fuko GTJxQD9NUFc-00864-00209179-00209355 apparatus developed by hippolyte fizeau GTJxQD9NUFc-00865-00209356-00209696 and léon foucault the setup is used by GTJxQD9NUFc-00866-00209698-00209846 fazool consists of a beam of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00867-00209848-00210039 directed at a mirror eight kilometres GTJxQD9NUFc-00868-00210040-00210330 five miles away on the way from the GTJxQD9NUFc-00869-00210331-00210483 source to the mirror the beam passes GTJxQD9NUFc-00870-00210484-00210726 through a rotating cog wheel at a GTJxQD9NUFc-00871-00210727-00210954 certain rate of rotation the beam passes GTJxQD9NUFc-00872-00210955-00211128 through one gap on the way out in GTJxQD9NUFc-00873-00211129-00211302 another on the way back but a slightly GTJxQD9NUFc-00874-00211303-00211530 higher or lower rates the beam strikes a GTJxQD9NUFc-00875-00211531-00211667 tooth and does not pass through the GTJxQD9NUFc-00876-00211669-00211908 wheel knowing the distance between the GTJxQD9NUFc-00877-00211909-00212064 wheel and the mirror the number of teeth GTJxQD9NUFc-00878-00212065-00212208 on the wheel and the rate of rotation GTJxQD9NUFc-00879-00212209-00212471 the speed of light can be calculated the GTJxQD9NUFc-00880-00212473-00212640 method of Foucault replaces the COG GTJxQD9NUFc-00881-00212641-00212892 wheel by rotating mirror because the GTJxQD9NUFc-00882-00212892-00213057 mirror keeps rotating while the light GTJxQD9NUFc-00883-00213058-00213228 travels to the distant mirror and back GTJxQD9NUFc-00884-00213229-00213411 the light is reflected from the rotating GTJxQD9NUFc-00885-00213412-00213591 mirror at a different angle on its way GTJxQD9NUFc-00886-00213592-00213848 out than it is on its way back from this GTJxQD9NUFc-00887-00213850-00214038 difference in angle the known speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00888-00214039-00214227 rotation and the distance to the distant GTJxQD9NUFc-00889-00214228-00214353 mirror the speed of light may be GTJxQD9NUFc-00890-00214354-00214719 calculated nowadays using oscilloscopes GTJxQD9NUFc-00891-00214719-00214898 with time resolutions of less than one GTJxQD9NUFc-00892-00214900-00215094 nanosecond the speed of light can be GTJxQD9NUFc-00893-00215094-00215277 directly measured by timing the delay of GTJxQD9NUFc-00894-00215278-00215457 a light pulse from a laser or an LED GTJxQD9NUFc-00895-00215458-00215744 reflected from a mirror this method is GTJxQD9NUFc-00896-00215746-00215928 less precise with errors of the order of GTJxQD9NUFc-00897-00215929-00216162 1% than other modern techniques but it GTJxQD9NUFc-00898-00216163-00216321 is sometimes used as a laboratory GTJxQD9NUFc-00899-00216321-00217037 experiment in college physics classes GTJxQD9NUFc-00900-00217038-00217661 topic electromagnetic constants GTJxQD9NUFc-00901-00217662-00217886 an option for deriving C that does not GTJxQD9NUFc-00902-00217887-00218066 directly depend on a measurement of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00903-00218067-00218282 propagation of electromagnetic waves is GTJxQD9NUFc-00904-00218283-00218462 to use the relation between C and the GTJxQD9NUFc-00905-00218463-00218663 vacuum permittivity epsilon zero and GTJxQD9NUFc-00906-00218664-00218912 vacuum permeability mu zero established GTJxQD9NUFc-00907-00218913-00219233 by Maxwell's theory c2 equals one GTJxQD9NUFc-00908-00219234-00219494 epsilon zero mu zero the vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-00909-00219494-00219662 permittivity may be determined by GTJxQD9NUFc-00910-00219663-00219860 measuring the capacitance and dimensions GTJxQD9NUFc-00911-00219861-00220055 of a capacitor whereas the value of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00912-00220056-00220277 vacuum permeability is fixed at exactly GTJxQD9NUFc-00913-00220278-00220553 four pi times ten minus seven HM minus GTJxQD9NUFc-00914-00220554-00220735 one through the definition of the ampere GTJxQD9NUFc-00915-00220736-00221081 roser endorsee used this method in 1907 GTJxQD9NUFc-00916-00221082-00221402 to find a value of 299 thousand seven GTJxQD9NUFc-00917-00221403-00221615 hundred and ten plus or minus twenty two GTJxQD9NUFc-00918-00221616-00221890 kilometers per second GTJxQD9NUFc-00919-00221891-00222321 equals GTJxQD9NUFc-00920-00222323-00222909 topic cavity resonance GTJxQD9NUFc-00921-00222910-00223255 equals another way to measure the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00922-00223256-00223435 of light is to independently measure the GTJxQD9NUFc-00923-00223436-00223630 frequency F and wavelength lambda of an GTJxQD9NUFc-00924-00223631-00223930 electromagnetic wave in vacuum the value GTJxQD9NUFc-00925-00223931-00224125 of C can then be found by using the GTJxQD9NUFc-00926-00224126-00224440 relation C equals F lambda one option is GTJxQD9NUFc-00927-00224441-00224617 to measure the resonance frequency of a GTJxQD9NUFc-00928-00224617-00224892 cavity resonator if the dimensions of GTJxQD9NUFc-00929-00224894-00225096 the resonant cavity are also known these GTJxQD9NUFc-00930-00225098-00225246 can be used to determine the wavelength GTJxQD9NUFc-00931-00225248-00225628 of the wave in 1946 louis and then AC GTJxQD9NUFc-00932-00225629-00225853 gordon smith established the frequency GTJxQD9NUFc-00933-00225854-00226021 for a variety of normal modes of GTJxQD9NUFc-00934-00226021-00226207 microwaves of a microwave cavity of GTJxQD9NUFc-00935-00226208-00226471 precisely known dimensions the GTJxQD9NUFc-00936-00226471-00226630 dimensions were established to an GTJxQD9NUFc-00937-00226631-00226900 accuracy of about plus or minus 0.8 GTJxQD9NUFc-00938-00226901-00227140 micrometers using gauges calibrated by GTJxQD9NUFc-00939-00227141-00227394 interferometry as the wavelength of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00940-00227396-00227578 modes was known from the geometry of the GTJxQD9NUFc-00941-00227579-00227796 cavity and from electromagnetic theory GTJxQD9NUFc-00942-00227798-00227998 knowledge of the Associated frequencies GTJxQD9NUFc-00943-00227998-00228187 enabled the calculation of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00944-00228188-00228585 light the SN Gordon Smith result 299,000 GTJxQD9NUFc-00945-00228586-00228961 792 plus or minus nine km/s was GTJxQD9NUFc-00946-00228962-00229138 substantially more precise than those GTJxQD9NUFc-00947-00229139-00229492 found by optical techniques by 1950 GTJxQD9NUFc-00948-00229492-00229633 repeated measurements by s and GTJxQD9NUFc-00949-00229634-00229942 established a result of 299 thousand GTJxQD9NUFc-00950-00229942-00230137 seven hundred and ninety two point five GTJxQD9NUFc-00951-00230138-00230503 plus or minus 3.0 km/s a household GTJxQD9NUFc-00952-00230504-00230665 demonstration of this technique is GTJxQD9NUFc-00953-00230666-00230884 possible using a microwave oven and food GTJxQD9NUFc-00954-00230885-00231109 such as marshmallows or marjorine if the GTJxQD9NUFc-00955-00231110-00231280 turntable is removed so that the food GTJxQD9NUFc-00956-00231281-00231471 does not move it will cook the fastest GTJxQD9NUFc-00957-00231473-00231667 to the antinodes the point at which the GTJxQD9NUFc-00958-00231667-00231867 wave amplitude is the greatest where it GTJxQD9NUFc-00959-00231869-00232102 will begin to melt the distance between GTJxQD9NUFc-00960-00232103-00232321 two such spots is half the wavelength of GTJxQD9NUFc-00961-00232321-00232477 the microwaves by measuring this GTJxQD9NUFc-00962-00232478-00232657 distance and multiplying the wavelength GTJxQD9NUFc-00963-00232658-00232858 by the microwave frequency usually GTJxQD9NUFc-00964-00232859-00232987 displayed on the back of the oven GTJxQD9NUFc-00965-00232988-00233185 typically two thousand four hundred and GTJxQD9NUFc-00966-00233186-00233413 fifty megahertz the value of C can be GTJxQD9NUFc-00967-00233414-00233641 calculated often with less than five GTJxQD9NUFc-00968-00233642-00234230 percent error GTJxQD9NUFc-00969-00234231-00234789 topic interferometry GTJxQD9NUFc-00970-00234790-00234996 interferometry is another method to find GTJxQD9NUFc-00971-00234998-00235119 the wavelength of electromagnetic GTJxQD9NUFc-00972-00235121-00235357 radiation for determining the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00973-00235358-00235675 light a coherent beam of light eg from a GTJxQD9NUFc-00974-00235676-00235927 laser with a known frequency F is split GTJxQD9NUFc-00975-00235928-00236134 to follow two paths and then recombined GTJxQD9NUFc-00976-00236135-00236380 by adjusting the path length while GTJxQD9NUFc-00977-00236381-00236563 observing the interference pattern and GTJxQD9NUFc-00978-00236564-00236728 carefully measuring the change in path GTJxQD9NUFc-00979-00236729-00236881 length the wavelength of the light GTJxQD9NUFc-00980-00236882-00237163 lambda can be determined the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-00981-00237164-00237348 light is then calculated using the GTJxQD9NUFc-00982-00237350-00237691 equation C equals lambda F before the GTJxQD9NUFc-00983-00237692-00237913 advent of laser technology coherent GTJxQD9NUFc-00984-00237914-00238060 radio sources were used for GTJxQD9NUFc-00985-00238061-00238237 interferometry measurements of the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-00986-00238238-00238296 of light GTJxQD9NUFc-00987-00238296-00238573 however interferometric determination of GTJxQD9NUFc-00988-00238573-00238759 wavelength becomes less precise with GTJxQD9NUFc-00989-00238760-00238933 wavelength and the experiments were thus GTJxQD9NUFc-00990-00238934-00239089 limited in precision by the long GTJxQD9NUFc-00991-00239090-00239421 wavelength approximately 0.4 centimeters GTJxQD9NUFc-00992-00239421-00239800 0.16 in of the radio waves the precision GTJxQD9NUFc-00993-00239801-00239971 can be improved by using light with a GTJxQD9NUFc-00994-00239971-00240154 shorter wavelength but then it becomes GTJxQD9NUFc-00995-00240155-00240294 difficult to directly measure the GTJxQD9NUFc-00996-00240296-00240567 frequency of the light one way around GTJxQD9NUFc-00997-00240569-00240730 this problem is to start with a low GTJxQD9NUFc-00998-00240731-00240904 frequency signal of which the frequency GTJxQD9NUFc-00999-00240905-00241129 can be precisely measured and from this GTJxQD9NUFc-01000-00241130-00241336 signal progressively synthesize higher GTJxQD9NUFc-01001-00241337-00241558 frequency signals whose frequency can GTJxQD9NUFc-01002-00241559-00241741 then be linked to the original signal a GTJxQD9NUFc-01003-00241742-00241939 laser can then be locked to the GTJxQD9NUFc-01004-00241940-00242128 frequency and its wavelength can be GTJxQD9NUFc-01005-00242129-00242392 determined using interferometry this GTJxQD9NUFc-01006-00242392-00242551 technique was due to a group at the GTJxQD9NUFc-01007-00242552-00242800 National Bureau of Standards NBS which GTJxQD9NUFc-01008-00242801-00243178 later became NIST they used it in 1972 GTJxQD9NUFc-01009-00243179-00243328 to measure the speed of light in vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-01010-00243329-00243607 with a fractional uncertainty of 3.5 GTJxQD9NUFc-01011-00243608-00243907 times 10 - 9 GTJxQD9NUFc-01012-00243908-00244269 you GTJxQD9NUFc-01013-00244271-00244777 topic history GTJxQD9NUFc-01014-00244778-00245032 until the early modern period it was not GTJxQD9NUFc-01015-00245033-00245148 known where the light traveled GTJxQD9NUFc-01016-00245150-00245398 instantaneously or at a very fast finite GTJxQD9NUFc-01017-00245398-00245662 speed the first extant recorded GTJxQD9NUFc-01018-00245663-00245827 examination of this subject was in GTJxQD9NUFc-01019-00245828-00246144 ancient Greece the ancient Greeks Muslim GTJxQD9NUFc-01020-00246146-00246319 scholars and classical European GTJxQD9NUFc-01021-00246319-00246550 scientists long debated this until Roma GTJxQD9NUFc-01022-00246551-00246736 provided the first calculation of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01023-00246737-00246842 speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-01024-00246844-00247069 Einstein's theory of special relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-01025-00247069-00247276 concluded that the speed of light is GTJxQD9NUFc-01026-00247277-00247465 constant regardless of one's frame of GTJxQD9NUFc-01027-00247466-00247762 reference since then scientists have GTJxQD9NUFc-01028-00247763-00247923 provided increasingly accurate GTJxQD9NUFc-01029-00247925-00248435 measurements GTJxQD9NUFc-01030-00248436-00248944 topic early history GTJxQD9NUFc-01031-00248944-00249471 MP locals see 492 430 BC was the first GTJxQD9NUFc-01032-00249473-00249657 to propose a theory of light and claim GTJxQD9NUFc-01033-00249658-00249913 that light has a finite speed he GTJxQD9NUFc-01034-00249914-00250075 maintained that light was something in GTJxQD9NUFc-01035-00250076-00250276 motion and therefore must take some time GTJxQD9NUFc-01036-00250277-00250533 to travel Aristotle argued to the GTJxQD9NUFc-01037-00250534-00250758 contrary that light is due to the GTJxQD9NUFc-01038-00250759-00250953 presence of something but it is not a GTJxQD9NUFc-01039-00250954-00251298 movement Euclid and Ptolemy advanced GTJxQD9NUFc-01040-00251300-00251476 empedocles emission theory of vision GTJxQD9NUFc-01041-00251477-00251658 where light is emitted from the eye thus GTJxQD9NUFc-01042-00251659-00251938 enabling sight based on that theory GTJxQD9NUFc-01043-00251939-00252127 Heron of Alexandria argued that the GTJxQD9NUFc-01044-00252128-00252289 speed of light must be infinite because GTJxQD9NUFc-01045-00252290-00252498 distant objects such as stars appear GTJxQD9NUFc-01046-00252500-00252810 immediately upon opening the eyes early GTJxQD9NUFc-01047-00252811-00252994 Islamic philosophers initially agreed GTJxQD9NUFc-01048-00252994-00253167 with the Aristotelian view that light GTJxQD9NUFc-01049-00253169-00253540 had no speed of travel in 1021 al hasan GTJxQD9NUFc-01050-00253541-00253714 IBN al-haytham published the book of GTJxQD9NUFc-01051-00253715-00253915 optics in which he presented a series of GTJxQD9NUFc-01052-00253916-00254113 arguments dismissing the emission theory GTJxQD9NUFc-01053-00254114-00254292 of vision in favor of the now accepted GTJxQD9NUFc-01054-00254294-00254484 intromission theory in which light moves GTJxQD9NUFc-01055-00254485-00254631 from an object into the eye GTJxQD9NUFc-01056-00254632-00254883 this led al Hazen to propose that light GTJxQD9NUFc-01057-00254884-00255073 must have a finite speed and that the GTJxQD9NUFc-01058-00255073-00255285 speed of light is variable decreasing in GTJxQD9NUFc-01059-00255286-00255562 denser bodies he argued that light is GTJxQD9NUFc-01060-00255563-00255756 substantial matter the propagation of GTJxQD9NUFc-01061-00255757-00255948 which requires time even if this is GTJxQD9NUFc-01062-00255950-00256242 hidden from our senses also in the 11th GTJxQD9NUFc-01063-00256244-00256455 century Abu Rey and al biruni agreed GTJxQD9NUFc-01064-00256456-00256629 that light has a finite speed and GTJxQD9NUFc-01065-00256630-00256816 observed that the speed of light is much GTJxQD9NUFc-01066-00256817-00257004 faster than the speed of sound in the GTJxQD9NUFc-01067-00257005-00257239 13th century Roger Bacon argued that the GTJxQD9NUFc-01068-00257240-00257419 speed of light in air was not infinite GTJxQD9NUFc-01069-00257419-00257631 using philosophical arguments backed by GTJxQD9NUFc-01070-00257632-00257829 the writing of Al Hazen and Aristotle in GTJxQD9NUFc-01071-00257830-00258123 the 12 70s wit hello considered the GTJxQD9NUFc-01072-00258125-00258282 possibility of light traveling at GTJxQD9NUFc-01073-00258283-00258480 infinite speed in vacuum but slowing GTJxQD9NUFc-01074-00258481-00258717 down in denser bodies in the early 17th GTJxQD9NUFc-01075-00258719-00258916 century Johannes Kepler believed that GTJxQD9NUFc-01076-00258917-00259063 the speed of light was infinite GTJxQD9NUFc-01077-00259064-00259269 since empty space presents no obstacle GTJxQD9NUFc-01078-00259271-00259530 to it Rene Descartes argued that if the GTJxQD9NUFc-01079-00259531-00259753 speed of light were to be finite the Sun GTJxQD9NUFc-01080-00259754-00259956 Earth and Moon would be noticeably out GTJxQD9NUFc-01081-00259957-00260151 of alignment during a lunar eclipse GTJxQD9NUFc-01082-00260152-00260394 since such misalignment had not been GTJxQD9NUFc-01083-00260396-00260598 observed Descartes concluded the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-01084-00260600-00260827 of light was infinite Descartes GTJxQD9NUFc-01085-00260828-00261001 speculated that if the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-01086-00261002-00261204 were found to be finite his whole system GTJxQD9NUFc-01087-00261205-00261414 of philosophy might be demolished in GTJxQD9NUFc-01088-00261415-00261681 Descartes derivation of Snell's law he GTJxQD9NUFc-01089-00261682-00261838 assumed that even though the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01090-00261839-00262039 light was instantaneous the dense of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01091-00262040-00262303 medium the faster was light speed GTJxQD9NUFc-01092-00262304-00262483 Pierre de Fermat derived Snell's law GTJxQD9NUFc-01093-00262484-00262696 using the opposing assumption the dense GTJxQD9NUFc-01094-00262697-00262893 of the medium the slower light traveled GTJxQD9NUFc-01095-00262894-00263149 Fermat also argued in support of a GTJxQD9NUFc-01096-00263150-00263389 finite speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-01097-00263390-00263730 you GTJxQD9NUFc-01098-00263731-00264318 topic first measurement attempts GTJxQD9NUFc-01099-00264319-00264639 in 1629 Isaac Beekman proposed an GTJxQD9NUFc-01100-00264640-00264816 experiment in which a person observes GTJxQD9NUFc-01101-00264817-00264987 the flash of a cannon reflecting off a GTJxQD9NUFc-01102-00264988-00265281 mirror about 1 mile 1.6 kilometers away GTJxQD9NUFc-01103-00265282-00265680 in 1638 Galileo Galilei proposed an GTJxQD9NUFc-01104-00265681-00265854 experiment with an apparent claim to GTJxQD9NUFc-01105-00265855-00266004 having performed it some years earlier GTJxQD9NUFc-01106-00266005-00266157 to measure the speed of light by GTJxQD9NUFc-01107-00266158-00266337 observing the delay between uncovering a GTJxQD9NUFc-01108-00266338-00266520 lanthanum it's perception some distance GTJxQD9NUFc-01109-00266521-00266787 away he was unable to distinguish where GTJxQD9NUFc-01110-00266788-00266964 the light travel was instantaneous or GTJxQD9NUFc-01111-00266965-00267159 not but concluded that if it were not it GTJxQD9NUFc-01112-00267160-00267291 must nevertheless be extraordinarily GTJxQD9NUFc-01113-00267292-00267690 rapid in 1667 the accademia del GTJxQD9NUFc-01114-00267691-00267882 commenter of Florence reported that it GTJxQD9NUFc-01115-00267883-00268086 had performed Galileo's experiment with GTJxQD9NUFc-01116-00268087-00268287 the lantern separated by about one mile GTJxQD9NUFc-01117-00268288-00268572 but no delay was observed the actual GTJxQD9NUFc-01118-00268573-00268740 delay in this experiment would have been GTJxQD9NUFc-01119-00268741-00269055 about 11 microseconds the first GTJxQD9NUFc-01120-00269056-00269220 quantitative estimate of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01121-00269221-00269535 light was made in 1676 by roma see GTJxQD9NUFc-01122-00269536-00269700 Roma's determination of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01123-00269701-00269946 light from the observation that the GTJxQD9NUFc-01124-00269947-00270141 periods of Jupiter's innermost moon Io GTJxQD9NUFc-01125-00270142-00270303 appeared to be shorter when the earth GTJxQD9NUFc-01126-00270304-00270456 was approaching Jupiter than when GTJxQD9NUFc-01127-00270457-00270648 receding from it he concluded that light GTJxQD9NUFc-01128-00270649-00270882 travels at a finite speed an estimated GTJxQD9NUFc-01129-00270883-00271098 that it takes like 22 minutes to cross GTJxQD9NUFc-01130-00271099-00271374 the diameter of Earth's orbit Christian GTJxQD9NUFc-01131-00271375-00271557 Huygens combined this estimate with an GTJxQD9NUFc-01132-00271558-00271710 estimate for the diameter of the Earth's GTJxQD9NUFc-01133-00271711-00271908 orbit to obtain an estimate of speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01134-00271909-00272376 light of 220,000 km/s 26% lower than the GTJxQD9NUFc-01135-00272377-00272652 actual value in his 1704 book optics GTJxQD9NUFc-01136-00272653-00272835 Isaac Newton reported Roma's GTJxQD9NUFc-01137-00272836-00273024 calculations of the finite speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01138-00273025-00273243 light and gave a value of seven or eight GTJxQD9NUFc-01139-00273244-00273510 minutes for the time taken for light to GTJxQD9NUFc-01140-00273511-00273675 travel from the Sun to the earth the GTJxQD9NUFc-01141-00273676-00273932 modern value is 8 minutes 19 seconds GTJxQD9NUFc-01142-00273933-00274167 Newton queried whether Roma's eclipses GTJxQD9NUFc-01143-00274168-00274332 shadows were colored hearing that they GTJxQD9NUFc-01144-00274333-00274497 were not he concluded the different GTJxQD9NUFc-01145-00274498-00274742 colors travelled at the same speed in GTJxQD9NUFc-01146-00274743-00275043 1729 James Bradley discovered stellar GTJxQD9NUFc-01147-00275044-00275241 aberration from this effect he GTJxQD9NUFc-01148-00275242-00275466 determined that light must travel 10,000 GTJxQD9NUFc-01149-00275467-00275712 210 times faster than the earth in its GTJxQD9NUFc-01150-00275713-00275757 orbit GTJxQD9NUFc-01151-00275758-00276036 the modern figure is 10,000 and 66 times GTJxQD9NUFc-01152-00276037-00276249 faster or equivalently that it would GTJxQD9NUFc-01153-00276250-00276444 take light eight minutes 12 seconds to GTJxQD9NUFc-01154-00276445-00277082 travel from the Sun to the earth GTJxQD9NUFc-01155-00277083-00277713 topic connections with electromagnetism GTJxQD9NUFc-01156-00277714-00277932 in the 19th century hippolyte fizeau GTJxQD9NUFc-01157-00277933-00278115 developed a method to determine the GTJxQD9NUFc-01158-00278116-00278304 speed of light based on time of flight GTJxQD9NUFc-01159-00278305-00278466 measurements on earth and reported a GTJxQD9NUFc-01160-00278467-00278619 value of three hundred and fifteen GTJxQD9NUFc-01161-00278620-00278886 thousand kilometers per second his GTJxQD9NUFc-01162-00278887-00279066 method was improved upon by léon GTJxQD9NUFc-01163-00279067-00279243 foucault who obtained a value of two GTJxQD9NUFc-01164-00279244-00279387 hundred and ninety-eight thousand GTJxQD9NUFc-01165-00279388-00279723 kilometres per second in 1862 in the GTJxQD9NUFc-01166-00279724-00279996 year 1856 Wilhelm Edouard Weber and GTJxQD9NUFc-01167-00279997-00280185 Rudolph Coleridge measured the ratio of GTJxQD9NUFc-01168-00280186-00280371 the electromagnetic and electrostatic GTJxQD9NUFc-01169-00280372-00280680 units of charge 1 square root epsilon 0 GTJxQD9NUFc-01170-00280681-00280929 mu 0 by discharging a Leyden jar and GTJxQD9NUFc-01171-00280930-00281127 found that its numerical value was very GTJxQD9NUFc-01172-00281128-00281310 close to the speed of light as measured GTJxQD9NUFc-01173-00281311-00281580 directly by phase au the following year GTJxQD9NUFc-01174-00281581-00281781 Gustav Kirchhoff calculated that an GTJxQD9NUFc-01175-00281782-00281946 electric signal in a resistance less GTJxQD9NUFc-01176-00281947-00282120 wire travels along the wire at this GTJxQD9NUFc-01177-00282121-00282474 speed in the early 1860s Maxwell showed GTJxQD9NUFc-01178-00282475-00282609 that according to the theory of GTJxQD9NUFc-01179-00282610-00282795 electromagnetism he was working on GTJxQD9NUFc-01180-00282796-00283035 electromagnetic waves propagate in empty GTJxQD9NUFc-01181-00283036-00283215 space at a speed equal to the above GTJxQD9NUFc-01182-00283216-00283404 Weber Coleridge ratio and drawn GTJxQD9NUFc-01183-00283405-00283605 attention to the numerical proximity of GTJxQD9NUFc-01184-00283606-00283764 this value to the speed of light as GTJxQD9NUFc-01185-00283765-00283947 measured by phase O he proposed that GTJxQD9NUFc-01186-00283948-00284665 light is in fact an electromagnetic wave GTJxQD9NUFc-01187-00284666-00285310 topic luminiferous ether GTJxQD9NUFc-01188-00285311-00285514 it was thought at the time that empty GTJxQD9NUFc-01189-00285515-00285643 space was filled with a background GTJxQD9NUFc-01190-00285644-00285859 medium called the luminiferous ether in GTJxQD9NUFc-01191-00285860-00286080 which the electromagnetic field existed GTJxQD9NUFc-01192-00286081-00286327 some physicists thought that this ether GTJxQD9NUFc-01193-00286328-00286507 acted as a preferred frame of reference GTJxQD9NUFc-01194-00286508-00286657 for the propagation of light and GTJxQD9NUFc-01195-00286658-00286789 therefore it should be possible to GTJxQD9NUFc-01196-00286790-00286921 measure the motion of the earth with GTJxQD9NUFc-01197-00286922-00287119 respect to this medium by measuring the GTJxQD9NUFc-01198-00287120-00287395 isotropy of the speed of light beginning GTJxQD9NUFc-01199-00287396-00287602 in the 1880s several experiments were GTJxQD9NUFc-01200-00287603-00287794 performed to try to detect this motion GTJxQD9NUFc-01201-00287795-00287932 the most famous of which is the GTJxQD9NUFc-01202-00287933-00288106 experiment performed by Albert a GTJxQD9NUFc-01203-00288107-00288369 Michelson and Edward W Morley in 1887 GTJxQD9NUFc-01204-00288370-00288640 the detected motion was always less than GTJxQD9NUFc-01205-00288641-00288823 the observational error modern GTJxQD9NUFc-01206-00288824-00288997 experiments indicate that the two-way GTJxQD9NUFc-01207-00288998-00289222 speed of light is isotropic the same in GTJxQD9NUFc-01208-00289223-00289312 every direction GTJxQD9NUFc-01209-00289313-00289530 to within six nanometers per second GTJxQD9NUFc-01210-00289531-00289786 because of this experiment Hendrik GTJxQD9NUFc-01211-00289787-00289954 Lorentz proposed that the motion of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01212-00289955-00290125 apparatus through the ether may cause GTJxQD9NUFc-01213-00290126-00290305 the apparatus to contract along its GTJxQD9NUFc-01214-00290306-00290494 length in the direction of motion and he GTJxQD9NUFc-01215-00290495-00290698 further assumed that the time variable GTJxQD9NUFc-01216-00290699-00290908 for moving systems must also be changed GTJxQD9NUFc-01217-00290909-00291202 accordingly local time which led to the GTJxQD9NUFc-01218-00291203-00291325 formulation of the Lorentz GTJxQD9NUFc-01219-00291326-00291571 transformation based on Lawrence's ether GTJxQD9NUFc-01220-00291572-00291883 theory Henri Poincare a 1900 that this GTJxQD9NUFc-01221-00291884-00292129 local time to first-order in V C is GTJxQD9NUFc-01222-00292130-00292333 indicated by Cox moving in the ether GTJxQD9NUFc-01223-00292334-00292468 which is synchronized under the GTJxQD9NUFc-01224-00292469-00292713 assumption of constant light speed in GTJxQD9NUFc-01225-00292714-00292984 1904 he speculated that the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01226-00292985-00293149 light could be a limiting velocity in GTJxQD9NUFc-01227-00293150-00293353 dynamics provided that the assumptions GTJxQD9NUFc-01228-00293354-00293607 of Lawrence's theory all confirmed in GTJxQD9NUFc-01229-00293608-00293911 1905 Poincare a brought Lawrence's ether GTJxQD9NUFc-01230-00293912-00294112 theory into full observational agreement GTJxQD9NUFc-01231-00294113-00294754 with the principle of relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-01232-00294755-00295313 Topic special relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-01233-00295314-00295628 in 1905 Einstein postulated from the GTJxQD9NUFc-01234-00295629-00295820 outset that the speed of light in vacuum GTJxQD9NUFc-01235-00295821-00295988 measured by a non accelerating observer GTJxQD9NUFc-01236-00295989-00296183 is independent of the motion of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01237-00296184-00296435 source or observer using this and the GTJxQD9NUFc-01238-00296436-00296645 principle of relativity as a basis he GTJxQD9NUFc-01239-00296646-00296786 derived the special theory of relativity GTJxQD9NUFc-01240-00296787-00297062 in which the speed of light in vacuum C GTJxQD9NUFc-01241-00297063-00297272 featured is a fundamental constant also GTJxQD9NUFc-01242-00297273-00297505 appearing in contexts unrelated to light GTJxQD9NUFc-01243-00297506-00297785 this made the concept of the stationary GTJxQD9NUFc-01244-00297786-00297971 ether - which Lawrence and Poincare a GTJxQD9NUFc-01245-00297972-00298187 still adhered useless and revolutionized GTJxQD9NUFc-01246-00298188-00298853 the concepts of space and time GTJxQD9NUFc-01247-00298854-00299147 topic increased accuracy of C and GTJxQD9NUFc-01248-00299148-00299677 redefinition of the meter and second GTJxQD9NUFc-01249-00299678-00299932 in the second half of the 20th century GTJxQD9NUFc-01250-00299933-00300124 much progress was made in increasing the GTJxQD9NUFc-01251-00300125-00300292 accuracy of measurements of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01252-00300293-00300481 light first by cavity resonance GTJxQD9NUFc-01253-00300482-00300634 techniques and later by laser GTJxQD9NUFc-01254-00300635-00300898 interferometer techniques these were GTJxQD9NUFc-01255-00300899-00301153 aided by new more precise definitions of GTJxQD9NUFc-01256-00301154-00301510 the metre and second in 1950 Louie Essen GTJxQD9NUFc-01257-00301511-00301792 determined the speed is 299 thousand GTJxQD9NUFc-01258-00301793-00301981 seven hundred and ninety two point five GTJxQD9NUFc-01259-00301982-00302224 plus or minus one kilometer per second GTJxQD9NUFc-01260-00302225-00302530 using cavity resonance this value was GTJxQD9NUFc-01261-00302531-00302725 adopted by the twelfth General Assembly GTJxQD9NUFc-01262-00302726-00303102 of the radio scientific Union in 1957 in GTJxQD9NUFc-01263-00303103-00303403 1960 the metre was redefined in terms of GTJxQD9NUFc-01264-00303404-00303577 the wavelength of a particular spectral GTJxQD9NUFc-01265-00303578-00303919 line of Krypton 86 and in 1967 the GTJxQD9NUFc-01266-00303920-00304108 second was redefined in terms of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01267-00304109-00304309 hyperfine transition frequency of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01268-00304310-00304924 ground state of cesium 133 in 1972 using GTJxQD9NUFc-01269-00304925-00305095 the laser interferometer method and the GTJxQD9NUFc-01270-00305096-00305281 new definitions a group at the u.s. GTJxQD9NUFc-01271-00305282-00305485 National Bureau of Standards in Boulder GTJxQD9NUFc-01272-00305486-00305680 Colorado determined the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-01273-00305681-00306564 in vacuum to be C equals 299,792,458 GTJxQD9NUFc-01274-00306565-00306928 meters per second this was 100 times GTJxQD9NUFc-01275-00306929-00307102 less uncertain than the previously GTJxQD9NUFc-01276-00307103-00307402 accepted value the remaining uncertainty GTJxQD9NUFc-01277-00307403-00307588 was mainly related to the definition of GTJxQD9NUFc-01278-00307589-00307855 the metre as similar experiments found GTJxQD9NUFc-01279-00307856-00308074 comparable results for C the 15th GTJxQD9NUFc-01280-00308075-00308230 General Conference on weights and GTJxQD9NUFc-01281-00308231-00308512 measures in 1975 recommended using the GTJxQD9NUFc-01282-00308513-00309181 value 299,792,458 m/s for the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01283-00309182-00309352 light GTJxQD9NUFc-01284-00309353-00309795 equals GTJxQD9NUFc-01285-00309796-00310089 topic defining the speed of light is an GTJxQD9NUFc-01286-00310090-00310578 explicit constant GTJxQD9NUFc-01287-00310579-00311121 equals in 1983 the 17th cgpm found that GTJxQD9NUFc-01288-00311122-00311304 wavelengths from frequency measurements GTJxQD9NUFc-01289-00311305-00311472 in a given value for the speed of light GTJxQD9NUFc-01290-00311473-00311655 are more reproducible than the previous GTJxQD9NUFc-01291-00311656-00312000 standard they kept the 1967 definition GTJxQD9NUFc-01292-00312001-00312198 of second so the cesium hyperfine GTJxQD9NUFc-01293-00312199-00312384 frequency would now determine both the GTJxQD9NUFc-01294-00312385-00312657 second in the meter to do this they GTJxQD9NUFc-01295-00312658-00312906 redefine the meters the meter is the GTJxQD9NUFc-01296-00312907-00313089 length of the path travelled by light in GTJxQD9NUFc-01297-00313090-00313724 vacuum during a time interval of one GTJxQD9NUFc-01298-00313725-00314133 299,792,458 of a second as a result of GTJxQD9NUFc-01299-00314134-00314313 this definition the value of the speed GTJxQD9NUFc-01300-00314314-00314822 of light in vacuum is exactly GTJxQD9NUFc-01301-00314823-00315084 299,792,458 meters per second and has GTJxQD9NUFc-01302-00315085-00315276 become a defined constant in the SI GTJxQD9NUFc-01303-00315277-00315585 system of units improved experimental GTJxQD9NUFc-01304-00315586-00315831 techniques that prior to 1983 would have GTJxQD9NUFc-01305-00315832-00316014 measured the speed of light no longer GTJxQD9NUFc-01306-00316015-00316176 affect the known value of the speed of GTJxQD9NUFc-01307-00316177-00316392 light in SI units but instead allow a GTJxQD9NUFc-01308-00316393-00316614 more precise realization of the metre by GTJxQD9NUFc-01309-00316615-00316779 more accurately measuring the wavelength GTJxQD9NUFc-01310-00316780-00317025 of Krypton 86 and other light sources in GTJxQD9NUFc-01311-00317026-00317340 2011 the cgpm stated its intention to GTJxQD9NUFc-01312-00317341-00317607 redefine all 7 SI base units using what GTJxQD9NUFc-01313-00317608-00317838 it calls the explicit constant GTJxQD9NUFc-01314-00317839-00318143 formulation where each unit is defined GTJxQD9NUFc-01315-00318144-00318429 indirectly by specifying explicitly an GTJxQD9NUFc-01316-00318430-00318630 exact value for a well recognized GTJxQD9NUFc-01317-00318631-00318975 fundamental constant as was done for the GTJxQD9NUFc-01318-00318976-00319221 speed of light it proposed a new but GTJxQD9NUFc-01319-00319222-00319392 completely equivalent wording of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01320-00319393-00319668 meters definition the metre symbol M is GTJxQD9NUFc-01321-00319669-00319926 the unit of length its magnitude is set GTJxQD9NUFc-01322-00319927-00320127 by fixing the numerical value of the GTJxQD9NUFc-01323-00320128-00320343 speed of light in vacuum to be equal to GTJxQD9NUFc-01324-00320344-00321051 exactly 299,792,458 when it is expressed GTJxQD9NUFc-01325-00321052-00321456 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things that we've changed in our GXEJFx789Ey-00007-00001727-00002123 or that our team has changed since the GXEJFx789Ey-00008-00002124-00002432 last five or six years for our annual GXEJFx789Ey-00009-00002433-00002621 trainings for livestock producers across GXEJFx789Ey-00010-00002622-00003049 the state so in the state of Nebraska GXEJFx789Ey-00011-00003050-00003302 livestock producers with a waste control GXEJFx789Ey-00012-00003303-00003529 facility are required to obtain manure GXEJFx789Ey-00013-00003530-00003800 education every five years the GXEJFx789Ey-00014-00003801-00003977 University of Nebraska does provide this GXEJFx789Ey-00015-00003978-00004238 training we do offer an online course GXEJFx789Ey-00016-00004239-00004502 that follows the same basic premises but GXEJFx789Ey-00017-00004503-00004670 for today I'm just going to focus on our GXEJFx789Ey-00018-00004671-00004859 in-person training since we're talking GXEJFx789Ey-00019-00004860-00005161 about just the interactive portions GXEJFx789Ey-00020-00005162-00005459 while there aren't hard regulations as GXEJFx789Ey-00021-00005460-00005609 to what needs to be covered during these GXEJFx789Ey-00022-00005610-00005783 trainings our Department of the GXEJFx789Ey-00023-00005784-00005999 Environment and energy provides our GXEJFx789Ey-00024-00006000-00006206 University with guidelines that outline GXEJFx789Ey-00025-00006207-00006388 the topics that we do have to address GXEJFx789Ey-00026-00006389-00006614 I'm not going to actually go through GXEJFx789Ey-00027-00006615-00006784 them but you can see them here in this GXEJFx789Ey-00028-00006786-00007031 table we do offer two different types of GXEJFx789Ey-00029-00007031-00007214 training and initial training for those GXEJFx789Ey-00030-00007215-00007388 that have never taken any training GXEJFx789Ey-00031-00007389-00007678 before and a recertification for those GXEJFx789Ey-00032-00007679-00007849 that have done it in the past and so we GXEJFx789Ey-00033-00007850-00008035 often have producers that have been GXEJFx789Ey-00034-00008036-00008449 there more than one time before the GXEJFx789Ey-00035-00008450-00008639 initial training does last about six and GXEJFx789Ey-00036-00008640-00008860 a half hours and the recertification GXEJFx789Ey-00037-00008861-00009091 training is a little over two hours long GXEJFx789Ey-00038-00009092-00009503 so and we often offer that in that GXEJFx789Ey-00039-00009504-00009716 recertification training as a portion of GXEJFx789Ey-00040-00009717-00009977 the initial training so during that GXEJFx789Ey-00041-00009978-00010264 portion of the day event there's a GXEJFx789Ey-00042-00010265-00010442 combination of producers that have some GXEJFx789Ey-00043-00010443-00010634 experience some that have lots of GXEJFx789Ey-00044-00010635-00010789 experience and some that have very GXEJFx789Ey-00045-00010790-00011335 little or no experience at all so I've GXEJFx789Ey-00046-00011336-00011560 been helping organize these events for GXEJFx789Ey-00047-00011561-00011870 approximately eleven years over those GXEJFx789Ey-00048-00011871-00012124 years we've seen lots of changes not so GXEJFx789Ey-00049-00012125-00012353 much to the rules or the topics address GXEJFx789Ey-00050-00012354-00012602 but to the methods that we used to teach GXEJFx789Ey-00051-00012603-00012874 and the depth of each topic that we're GXEJFx789Ey-00052-00012875-00013121 covering we've tried lots of different GXEJFx789Ey-00053-00013122-00013274 methods of teaching we've tried GXEJFx789Ey-00054-00013275-00013376 different aspects GXEJFx789Ey-00055-00013377-00013588 of each topic and we've gone from GXEJFx789Ey-00056-00013590-00013793 in-person trainings to pre-recorded GXEJFx789Ey-00057-00013794-00014015 videos and then now we're back to more GXEJFx789Ey-00058-00014016-00014224 in-person trainings with multiple GXEJFx789Ey-00059-00014225-00014656 presenters in front of the audience GXEJFx789Ey-00060-00014657-00014906 somewhere in the middle there we even GXEJFx789Ey-00061-00014907-00015083 tried doing our recertification by GXEJFx789Ey-00062-00015084-00015443 webinar and it didn't go incredibly well GXEJFx789Ey-00063-00015444-00015662 not that we won't try that again but GXEJFx789Ey-00064-00015663-00015809 it's not something that we have pursued GXEJFx789Ey-00065-00015810-00016205 too much now what we haven't done is GXEJFx789Ey-00066-00016206-00016472 stop trying new things in the last five GXEJFx789Ey-00067-00016473-00016715 years we've added a lot of interactive GXEJFx789Ey-00068-00016716-00016979 parts to our trainings and the picture GXEJFx789Ey-00069-00016980-00017198 that I'm showing here shows our previous GXEJFx789Ey-00070-00017199-00017540 teaching methods in the photo I'm trying GXEJFx789Ey-00071-00017541-00017801 to introduce a topic before playing a GXEJFx789Ey-00072-00017802-00018059 video you can see the audience is not GXEJFx789Ey-00073-00018060-00018284 super engaged some are sitting back with GXEJFx789Ey-00074-00018285-00018497 their arms crossed some are probably on GXEJFx789Ey-00075-00018498-00018560 their phones GXEJFx789Ey-00076-00018561-00018818 what you don't see even in those that GXEJFx789Ey-00077-00018819-00019034 are actually paying attention is people GXEJFx789Ey-00078-00019035-00019403 who are actively involved in learning by GXEJFx789Ey-00079-00019404-00019634 the end of two hours or six for those GXEJFx789Ey-00080-00019635-00019784 that were taking the initial training GXEJFx789Ey-00081-00019785-00019988 what we had was a whole lot of GXEJFx789Ey-00082-00019989-00020210 PowerPoint poisoning as Dilbert has GXEJFx789Ey-00083-00020211-00020558 explained here as a team we knew we GXEJFx789Ey-00084-00020559-00020747 could do better I knew I could make a GXEJFx789Ey-00085-00020748-00020921 better program and the team was super GXEJFx789Ey-00086-00020922-00021209 supportive of trying some I sometimes GXEJFx789Ey-00087-00021210-00021821 out of out-of-the-box ideas so this is GXEJFx789Ey-00088-00021822-00022021 kind of what our programs look like now GXEJFx789Ey-00089-00022022-00022280 participants are actively involved in GXEJFx789Ey-00090-00022281-00022373 the learning process GXEJFx789Ey-00091-00022374-00022535 they're making decisions about the GXEJFx789Ey-00092-00022536-00022706 example farms and they're asking GXEJFx789Ey-00093-00022707-00022868 questions that relate back to how the GXEJFx789Ey-00094-00022869-00023249 things work on their own farm we do GXEJFx789Ey-00095-00023250-00023447 still have some PowerPoint presentations GXEJFx789Ey-00096-00023448-00023618 don't get me wrong there but much of GXEJFx789Ey-00097-00023619-00023768 what we're doing is active learning GXEJFx789Ey-00098-00023769-00023957 rather than passive learning as we've GXEJFx789Ey-00099-00023958-00024188 done in the past and the audience even GXEJFx789Ey-00100-00024189-00024383 those that don't want to be there you GXEJFx789Ey-00101-00024384-00024566 know the guy in the back that's going to GXEJFx789Ey-00102-00024567-00024698 sit there with his arms crossed because GXEJFx789Ey-00103-00024699-00024863 he has to be there but doesn't want to GXEJFx789Ey-00104-00024864-00025136 be even those folks are seeing the value GXEJFx789Ey-00105-00025137-00025515 of at least a portion of the program GXEJFx789Ey-00106-00025516-00025814 so Erica introduce you to the GXEJFx789Ey-00107-00025814-00026243 calibration kits a little bit in 2016 as GXEJFx789Ey-00108-00026244-00026435 part of a small three state north GXEJFx789Ey-00109-00026436-00026662 central region water network grant GXEJFx789Ey-00110-00026663-00026932 I came up with this again out-of-the-box GXEJFx789Ey-00111-00026933-00027193 idea so to speak actually did put it in GXEJFx789Ey-00112-00027194-00027343 a shoebox though which is a little GXEJFx789Ey-00113-00027344-00027472 ironic GXEJFx789Ey-00114-00027473-00027748 I designed scaled-down shoebox kits with GXEJFx789Ey-00115-00027749-00028020 everything that the participants needed GXEJFx789Ey-00116-00028022-00028273 to calibrate the spreader on the box in GXEJFx789Ey-00117-00028274-00028627 a tiny form the majority of our manure GXEJFx789Ey-00118-00028627-00028801 trainings take place in the wintertime GXEJFx789Ey-00119-00028802-00029074 so we don't have access to a space where GXEJFx789Ey-00120-00029075-00029251 an actual manure spreader calibration GXEJFx789Ey-00121-00029252-00029533 can take place so I packed everything GXEJFx789Ey-00122-00029533-00029776 that would be needed into the shoebox GXEJFx789Ey-00123-00029777-00030085 I did make kits for multiple calibration GXEJFx789Ey-00124-00030086-00030229 methods and both liquid and solid GXEJFx789Ey-00125-00030230-00030493 spreaders in the upper left-hand corner GXEJFx789Ey-00126-00030494-00030820 what you're seeing is a solid spreader GXEJFx789Ey-00127-00030820-00030997 calibration where we actually have a GXEJFx789Ey-00128-00030998-00031227 scale to weigh the spreader and we call GXEJFx789Ey-00129-00031229-00031483 this the axle weight method participants GXEJFx789Ey-00130-00031483-00031792 take the pseudo spreader that we have up GXEJFx789Ey-00131-00031793-00032161 here and along with them loads of pseudo GXEJFx789Ey-00132-00032162-00032350 manure which is a combination of sand GXEJFx789Ey-00133-00032351-00032962 and potting soil Erika uses chocolate GXEJFx789Ey-00134-00032963-00033301 sprinkles whatever works is fine and and GXEJFx789Ey-00135-00033302-00033595 then we calculate whether if we apply GXEJFx789Ey-00136-00033596-00033853 that load of manure on the areas that GXEJFx789Ey-00137-00033854-00034159 I'm given here with these square paper GXEJFx789Ey-00138-00034160-00034513 rectangular papers how much manure we GXEJFx789Ey-00139-00034514-00034804 actually applied in the lower right GXEJFx789Ey-00140-00034805-00035173 corner over here is a sheet method of GXEJFx789Ey-00141-00035174-00035440 solid manure calibration which is what GXEJFx789Ey-00142-00035441-00035668 erica was talking more about again I GXEJFx789Ey-00143-00035669-00035908 used sand and potting soil she uses GXEJFx789Ey-00144-00035909-00036106 chocolate sprinkles whatever works is GXEJFx789Ey-00145-00036107-00036469 fine but in that one they discover GXEJFx789Ey-00146-00036470-00036736 because we have multiple different sizes GXEJFx789Ey-00147-00036737-00036979 of sheets in there they discovered that GXEJFx789Ey-00148-00036980-00037240 the easiest way to determine application GXEJFx789Ey-00149-00037241-00037513 rate using the sheet method is to use a GXEJFx789Ey-00150-00037514-00037732 tarp or something that is about 22 GXEJFx789Ey-00151-00037733-00038023 square feet that makes for simple GXEJFx789Ey-00152-00038024-00038248 calculations going between pounds per GXEJFx789Ey-00153-00038249-00038440 square foot and tonnes per acre GXEJFx789Ey-00154-00038441-00038835 there isn't any which is really handy GXEJFx789Ey-00155-00038836-00038977 the shook-up GXEJFx789Ey-00156-00038978-00039178 shoebox kits as I said were developed in GXEJFx789Ey-00157-00039179-00039436 the summer of 2016 our trainings are in GXEJFx789Ey-00158-00039437-00039619 the winter so we implemented them for GXEJFx789Ey-00159-00039620-00039931 land application training in 2017 this GXEJFx789Ey-00160-00039932-00040043 shows you a peek of GXEJFx789Ey-00161-00040044-00040211 our evaluations have looked like for the GXEJFx789Ey-00162-00040212-00040526 last several years we asked folks at the GXEJFx789Ey-00163-00040527-00040715 end of the program to score us on each GXEJFx789Ey-00164-00040716-00040916 topic with zero being what they that GXEJFx789Ey-00165-00040917-00041165 they learn absolutely nothing and for GXEJFx789Ey-00166-00041166-00041300 being that they gained a ton of GXEJFx789Ey-00167-00041301-00041573 knowledge I would note that this GXEJFx789Ey-00168-00041574-00041840 particular activity was the first of its GXEJFx789Ey-00169-00041841-00042110 kind and was totally a step outside of GXEJFx789Ey-00170-00042111-00042296 the norm for most of the educators and I GXEJFx789Ey-00171-00042297-00042515 know at least one of them is on today so GXEJFx789Ey-00172-00042516-00043013 we can ask him to share the educators at GXEJFx789Ey-00173-00043014-00043256 this point were very used to playing GXEJFx789Ey-00174-00043257-00043589 videos and so when I instructed them to GXEJFx789Ey-00175-00043590-00043745 give a bit of an introduction and then GXEJFx789Ey-00176-00043746-00043886 just let folks stumble through the GXEJFx789Ey-00177-00043887-00044114 process to learn they struggled GXEJFx789Ey-00178-00044115-00044390 themselves I had more than one of them GXEJFx789Ey-00179-00044391-00044534 tell me that they really didn't like GXEJFx789Ey-00180-00044535-00044762 this project initially because they felt GXEJFx789Ey-00181-00044763-00044900 like they had lost complete control of GXEJFx789Ey-00182-00044901-00045164 their classroom because they weren't the GXEJFx789Ey-00183-00045165-00045440 ones doing the teaching upfront I'm GXEJFx789Ey-00184-00045441-00045632 pretty certain that their hesitation is GXEJFx789Ey-00185-00045633-00045964 the reason for the lower scores in 2017 GXEJFx789Ey-00186-00045965-00046307 because after that they did improve this GXEJFx789Ey-00187-00046308-00046532 year we didn't have a lot of time GXEJFx789Ey-00188-00046533-00046676 because we had to add at other GXEJFx789Ey-00189-00046677-00046940 activities and so the calibration GXEJFx789Ey-00190-00046941-00047120 activity was cut short and was more of a GXEJFx789Ey-00191-00047121-00047270 discussion we still didn't use GXEJFx789Ey-00192-00047271-00047438 PowerPoint but scores were maybe a GXEJFx789Ey-00193-00047439-00047965 little bit lower because of that last GXEJFx789Ey-00194-00047966-00048371 year in 2019 after I attended a Iowa GXEJFx789Ey-00195-00048372-00048767 State training with Ian Anderson and I GXEJFx789Ey-00196-00048768-00049004 asked permission of course but I stole GXEJFx789Ey-00197-00049005-00049315 his idea and copied it to make a GXEJFx789Ey-00198-00049316-00049532 worksheet that identified where setbacks GXEJFx789Ey-00199-00049533-00049769 and where stockpiles should be for a GXEJFx789Ey-00200-00049770-00050065 particular field we didn't do any kind GXEJFx789Ey-00201-00050066-00050252 of a presentation and we told GXEJFx789Ey-00202-00050253-00050375 participants that there definitely GXEJFx789Ey-00203-00050376-00050708 wasn't a correct answer here we just GXEJFx789Ey-00204-00050709-00050879 wanted to hear from them why they were GXEJFx789Ey-00205-00050880-00051113 placing piles where they were and give GXEJFx789Ey-00206-00051114-00051263 them some guidance for things to look GXEJFx789Ey-00207-00051264-00051604 for that kind of thing we did provide a GXEJFx789Ey-00208-00051605-00051802 little bit of guidance in the form of GXEJFx789Ey-00209-00051803-00051982 the infographic that you see here on the GXEJFx789Ey-00210-00051983-00052394 right excuse me we had it printed on GXEJFx789Ey-00211-00052395-00052729 cardstock and is about a little bit GXEJFx789Ey-00212-00052730-00052952 bigger than an index card with the GXEJFx789Ey-00213-00052953-00053090 intention that they could take it with GXEJFx789Ey-00214-00053091-00053242 them and keep it handy in the tractor GXEJFx789Ey-00215-00053244-00053399 after the part program GXEJFx789Ey-00216-00053400-00053666 was over and to take that as a as a GXEJFx789Ey-00217-00053666-00053924 reminder we asked them what areas we GXEJFx789Ey-00218-00053925-00054113 needed to avoid and where you're going GXEJFx789Ey-00219-00054114-00054592 to place that stockpile once the GXEJFx789Ey-00220-00054594-00054788 audience had determined where they were GXEJFx789Ey-00221-00054789-00055034 going to place that pile the worksheet GXEJFx789Ey-00222-00055035-00055208 then threw a wrench in the plan and GXEJFx789Ey-00223-00055209-00055484 asked them okay you've determined where GXEJFx789Ey-00224-00055485-00055784 you're going to put it now how are you GXEJFx789Ey-00225-00055785-00055997 going to get it there you're going to GXEJFx789Ey-00226-00055998-00056177 move it from this turkey operation over GXEJFx789Ey-00227-00056178-00056380 here to your field that's over here GXEJFx789Ey-00228-00056382-00056660 represented by the corn what way are you GXEJFx789Ey-00229-00056661-00056957 going to go we did tell him again that GXEJFx789Ey-00230-00056958-00057232 there was no correct answer and the GXEJFx789Ey-00231-00057233-00057428 educators that were helping teach this GXEJFx789Ey-00232-00057429-00057551 really appreciated it GXEJFx789Ey-00233-00057552-00057734 there was a cheat sheet that we gave GXEJFx789Ey-00234-00057735-00057908 them that had more information than what GXEJFx789Ey-00235-00057909-00058121 was provided on the worksheet things GXEJFx789Ey-00236-00058122-00058322 like school bus routes bridges that GXEJFx789Ey-00237-00058323-00058484 needed to be avoided roads that are GXEJFx789Ey-00238-00058485-00058717 narrow that kind of thing were all GXEJFx789Ey-00239-00058719-00059045 things that the the instructors had that GXEJFx789Ey-00240-00059046-00059240 information but the audience would have GXEJFx789Ey-00241-00059241-00059404 had to ask because they wouldn't have GXEJFx789Ey-00242-00059405-00059597 known that from the just looking at the GXEJFx789Ey-00243-00059598-00060086 map participants did seem to like the GXEJFx789Ey-00244-00060087-00060401 Siq activity we did encourage them to GXEJFx789Ey-00245-00060402-00060590 work with partners so they discussed GXEJFx789Ey-00246-00060591-00060821 options with their neighbors and again GXEJFx789Ey-00247-00060822-00061013 scores were drastically improved after GXEJFx789Ey-00248-00061014-00061259 adding the activity you can see in 2019 GXEJFx789Ey-00249-00061260-00061664 here our scores are mostly force which GXEJFx789Ey-00250-00061665-00061928 is very very good thank you and we GXEJFx789Ey-00251-00061929-00062305 appreciated that I did mention GXEJFx789Ey-00252-00062307-00062516 previously we have not changed all of GXEJFx789Ey-00253-00062516-00062791 our presentations to be hands-on because GXEJFx789Ey-00254-00062792-00063007 we have a lot of topics to get through GXEJFx789Ey-00255-00063008-00063170 we have a lot of cover things that we GXEJFx789Ey-00256-00063171-00063377 have to cover in a very limited amount GXEJFx789Ey-00257-00063378-00063607 of time we know it's not feasible to GXEJFx789Ey-00258-00063608-00063791 cover everything and be interactive with GXEJFx789Ey-00259-00063791-00064019 all of it we learned the hard way GXEJFx789Ey-00260-00064020-00064169 especially with one of the new GXEJFx789Ey-00261-00064170-00064405 activities this year that teaching using GXEJFx789Ey-00262-00064407-00064691 this interactive method does take quite GXEJFx789Ey-00263-00064691-00065087 a bit more time to teach we do try to GXEJFx789Ey-00264-00065088-00065252 incorporate some kind of small GXEJFx789Ey-00265-00065253-00065543 interactive portion into each of the GXEJFx789Ey-00266-00065544-00065696 presentations but that's not always GXEJFx789Ey-00267-00065697-00066116 possible either one example is for soil GXEJFx789Ey-00268-00066117-00066317 and manure sampling we have one slide in GXEJFx789Ey-00269-00066318-00066488 the middle where we compare the two and GXEJFx789Ey-00270-00066489-00066770 talk about things that are similar GXEJFx789Ey-00271-00066771-00066971 fact that you need to do sub samples for GXEJFx789Ey-00272-00066972-00067259 both of those things is something that GXEJFx789Ey-00273-00067260-00067430 we can point out that way with just a GXEJFx789Ey-00274-00067431-00067721 comparison slide during the nutrient GXEJFx789Ey-00275-00067722-00067868 content presentation we always have GXEJFx789Ey-00276-00067869-00068060 included a math problem that has them GXEJFx789Ey-00277-00068061-00068273 calculating the availability of nitrogen GXEJFx789Ey-00278-00068274-00068480 from the manure which is important GXEJFx789Ey-00279-00068481-00068939 especially here in Nebraska for the P GXEJFx789Ey-00280-00068940-00069218 and X presentation we've gone away from GXEJFx789Ey-00281-00069219-00069518 doing a full demonstration of the GXEJFx789Ey-00282-00069519-00069854 product or of the program and instead we GXEJFx789Ey-00283-00069855-00070094 have prefilled examples where the GXEJFx789Ey-00284-00070095-00070385 audience or sorry the educator can alter GXEJFx789Ey-00285-00070386-00070592 just a few components of the program and GXEJFx789Ey-00286-00070593-00070976 see how that affects it we found that a GXEJFx789Ey-00287-00070977-00071156 lot of our producers attend our GXEJFx789Ey-00288-00071157-00071330 trainings are actually hiring GXEJFx789Ey-00289-00071331-00071498 consultants that are doing the P and X GXEJFx789Ey-00290-00071499-00071699 forum so we felt it was less important GXEJFx789Ey-00291-00071700-00071966 that they know how to run the tool as to GXEJFx789Ey-00292-00071967-00072218 what actually makes the changes so GXEJFx789Ey-00293-00072219-00072428 that's a portion where we've decided to GXEJFx789Ey-00294-00072429-00072635 cut some of the program back there and GXEJFx789Ey-00295-00072636-00072809 focus on teaching the impacts rather GXEJFx789Ey-00296-00072810-00073082 than how to do it so that they can make GXEJFx789Ey-00297-00073083-00073262 better decisions on the Fineman be able GXEJFx789Ey-00298-00073263-00073712 to guide their their consultants so just GXEJFx789Ey-00299-00073713-00073859 grabbing one example of our GXEJFx789Ey-00300-00073860-00074018 presentations where we haven't really GXEJFx789Ey-00301-00074019-00074291 made a lot of changes you can see even GXEJFx789Ey-00302-00074292-00074510 without those changes that our scores GXEJFx789Ey-00303-00074511-00074804 are higher in the later years we GXEJFx789Ey-00304-00074805-00075074 attribute this fact to the the fact that GXEJFx789Ey-00305-00075075-00075215 people are more satisfied with the GXEJFx789Ey-00306-00075216-00075434 program in general therefore they're GXEJFx789Ey-00307-00075435-00075611 rating us higher across the board even GXEJFx789Ey-00308-00075612-00075830 on the presentations that we haven't GXEJFx789Ey-00309-00075831-00076259 made a ton of changes to so this is one GXEJFx789Ey-00310-00076260-00076427 of the newer activities that we have we GXEJFx789Ey-00311-00076428-00076688 just did it this year previously our GXEJFx789Ey-00312-00076689-00076889 record-keeping presentation hadn't been GXEJFx789Ey-00313-00076890-00077087 changed but this year we added a GXEJFx789Ey-00314-00077088-00077267 scavenger hunt where the we have the GXEJFx789Ey-00315-00077268-00077407 participants look through our GXEJFx789Ey-00316-00077408-00077687 record-keeping calendar that we offer to GXEJFx789Ey-00317-00077688-00077843 livestock producers as a way to keep GXEJFx789Ey-00318-00077844-00078194 track of all of their manure records so GXEJFx789Ey-00319-00078195-00078398 what they were instructed to do is to GXEJFx789Ey-00320-00078399-00078602 look at this checklist to find where GXEJFx789Ey-00321-00078603-00078761 that record could be found in the GXEJFx789Ey-00322-00078762-00079103 calendar and then write it down on that GXEJFx789Ey-00323-00079104-00079502 checklist so we designed the checklist GXEJFx789Ey-00324-00079503-00079661 so that that's something that they can GXEJFx789Ey-00325-00079662-00079844 take home and use on their own farm even GXEJFx789Ey-00326-00079845-00080048 if they're not using the calendar GXEJFx789Ey-00327-00080049-00080306 it can be kind of a point of reference GXEJFx789Ey-00328-00080307-00080705 for them so that if their water line GXEJFx789Ey-00329-00080706-00080888 records if this is a feedlot if their GXEJFx789Ey-00330-00080889-00081098 water line rainfall records are kept in GXEJFx789Ey-00331-00081099-00081461 the feed truck as they're driving GXEJFx789Ey-00332-00081462-00081614 through the feedlot they can keep that GXEJFx789Ey-00333-00081615-00081809 there if some of the other inspections GXEJFx789Ey-00334-00081810-00081995 are kept by somebody in the office then GXEJFx789Ey-00335-00081996-00082130 they can mark down that it's in GXEJFx789Ey-00336-00082131-00082373 so-and-so's office and maybe which GXEJFx789Ey-00337-00082374-00082595 drawer it's in that kind of thing so GXEJFx789Ey-00338-00082596-00082748 this is a tool that they can take home GXEJFx789Ey-00339-00082749-00083267 with them to after the fact we learned GXEJFx789Ey-00340-00083268-00083468 very early in this year's events that we GXEJFx789Ey-00341-00083469-00083663 didn't schedule nearly enough time for GXEJFx789Ey-00342-00083664-00083948 that scavenger hunt like I said before GXEJFx789Ey-00343-00083949-00084155 the interactive programming is GXEJFx789Ey-00344-00084156-00084347 definitely a lot more time consuming to GXEJFx789Ey-00345-00084348-00084668 teach but you do get a better impact at GXEJFx789Ey-00346-00084669-00084815 least we feel like we get a better GXEJFx789Ey-00347-00084816-00085190 impact so we didn't schedule nearly GXEJFx789Ey-00348-00085191-00085370 enough time for this so I do think GXEJFx789Ey-00349-00085371-00085577 that's probably why our scores aren't as GXEJFx789Ey-00350-00085578-00085790 good as what I expected them to be this GXEJFx789Ey-00351-00085791-00086072 year we'll see how it comes in the next GXEJFx789Ey-00352-00086073-00086345 few years as we continue to adapt and GXEJFx789Ey-00353-00086346-00086747 develop this but you can see by this 1/2 GXEJFx789Ey-00354-00086748-00086972 that again our scores are still higher GXEJFx789Ey-00355-00086973-00087218 even after we've added some of the other GXEJFx789Ey-00356-00087219-00087700 interactive things in the past few years GXEJFx789Ey-00357-00087701-00088013 so the other new activity that we had GXEJFx789Ey-00358-00088014-00088352 this year was a really big one this year GXEJFx789Ey-00359-00088353-00088580 our nebraska manure team along with GXEJFx789Ey-00360-00088581-00088769 Christie's Mater Minh at the University GXEJFx789Ey-00361-00088770-00088961 of Minnesota worked to produce a new GXEJFx789Ey-00362-00088962-00089216 game to pull several aspects of manure GXEJFx789Ey-00363-00089217-00089471 management together into one big GXEJFx789Ey-00364-00089472-00089759 cohesive decision-making activity on GXEJFx789Ey-00365-00089760-00090155 this map we placed four fields that had GXEJFx789Ey-00366-00090156-00090398 and corresponding practices for those GXEJFx789Ey-00367-00090399-00090602 fields and the analysis for those fields GXEJFx789Ey-00368-00090603-00090899 and and an AFO card with information GXEJFx789Ey-00369-00090900-00091071 about the facility and their manure GXEJFx789Ey-00370-00091072-00091492 analysis all on this on this map GXEJFx789Ey-00371-00091493-00091688 participants then work through six GXEJFx789Ey-00372-00091689-00091922 activities including getting to know the GXEJFx789Ey-00373-00091923-00092147 operation valuing the nutrient content GXEJFx789Ey-00374-00092148-00092356 of the manure for a particular field GXEJFx789Ey-00375-00092357-00092651 transportation costs water quality risks GXEJFx789Ey-00376-00092652-00092861 soil health benefits as well as neighbor GXEJFx789Ey-00377-00092862-00093275 nuisances this took a long time GXEJFx789Ey-00378-00093276-00093543 each section had a worksheet to keep GXEJFx789Ey-00379-00093544-00093741 track of the benefits and barriers to GXEJFx789Ey-00380-00093742-00094047 using the manure on each field and once GXEJFx789Ey-00381-00094048-00094206 those barriers and benefits had been GXEJFx789Ey-00382-00094207-00094461 recognized participants decided whether GXEJFx789Ey-00383-00094462-00094650 or not they were going to place a happy GXEJFx789Ey-00384-00094651-00094962 or a sad emoji on their field related to GXEJFx789Ey-00385-00094963-00095193 that particular activity and the GXEJFx789Ey-00386-00095194-00095426 activities then built upon each other GXEJFx789Ey-00387-00095427-00095700 the participants were allowed to make GXEJFx789Ey-00388-00095701-00095865 choices that could relate back to their GXEJFx789Ey-00389-00095866-00096159 own operations for example we didn't GXEJFx789Ey-00390-00096160-00096345 tell them whether or not the fields had GXEJFx789Ey-00391-00096346-00096555 grass waterways which of course would GXEJFx789Ey-00392-00096556-00096753 decrease erosion and potentially improve GXEJFx789Ey-00393-00096754-00097041 water quality they could have looked at GXEJFx789Ey-00394-00097042-00097272 the pictures and tried to guess but GXEJFx789Ey-00395-00097273-00097485 while I was teaching and when they asked GXEJFx789Ey-00396-00097486-00097776 me of course I told them to do what they 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relatable back to their own operation I GXEJFx789Ey-00411-00100902-00101187 did say this did take a long time the GXEJFx789Ey-00412-00101188-00101358 activity took between an hour and a half GXEJFx789Ey-00413-00101359-00101562 two hours depending on how many GXEJFx789Ey-00414-00101563-00101775 questions we had and how familiar folks GXEJFx789Ey-00415-00101776-00101975 were with the topics that we covered GXEJFx789Ey-00416-00101976-00102186 even though that seems like a really GXEJFx789Ey-00417-00102187-00102384 really long time for just one activity GXEJFx789Ey-00418-00102385-00102659 we were graced with wonderful comments GXEJFx789Ey-00419-00102660-00102932 from our audience things they said GXEJFx789Ey-00420-00102933-00103113 things like wow that was the fastest GXEJFx789Ey-00421-00103114-00103406 training I've ever attended and I can't GXEJFx789Ey-00422-00103407-00103656 believe we're almost done already and so GXEJFx789Ey-00423-00103657-00103881 people really did enjoy this activity GXEJFx789Ey-00424-00103882-00104111 they were involved in it and they didn't GXEJFx789Ey-00425-00104113-00104346 realize that they had spent an hour and GXEJFx789Ey-00426-00104347-00104589 a half to two hours all on one big GXEJFx789Ey-00427-00104590-00104786 project it went really fast for GXEJFx789Ey-00428-00104788-00105201 everybody including the instructors at GXEJFx789Ey-00429-00105202-00105471 the end of our programs I have recently GXEJFx789Ey-00430-00105472-00105675 added in the last several years a GXEJFx789Ey-00431-00105676-00105972 question on our evaluations we didn't GXEJFx789Ey-00432-00105973-00106461 get a lot of written feedback before and GXEJFx789Ey-00433-00106463-00106627 but we really wanted to know what is GXEJFx789Ey-00434-00106628-00106780 working and what really isn't working GXEJFx789Ey-00435-00106781-00106981 for these producers what do they want to GXEJFx789Ey-00436-00106982-00107227 see from us so rather than asking for 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that will fit would fill out the GXEJFx789Ey-00451-00111092-00111307 comments and suggestions previously so GXEJFx789Ey-00452-00111308-00111550 by adding a question that they do know GXEJFx789Ey-00453-00111551-00111786 the answer to it helps them to think GXEJFx789Ey-00454-00111788-00112072 about better what might change for the GXEJFx789Ey-00455-00112073-00112324 future too it opens that line of GXEJFx789Ey-00456-00112325-00112807 communication so what's next for our GXEJFx789Ey-00457-00112808-00113017 team we're continuing to use the map GXEJFx789Ey-00458-00113018-00113248 game and other events in fact next week GXEJFx789Ey-00459-00113249-00113557 now that we have this crazy virus we're GXEJFx789Ey-00460-00113558-00113683 actually going to try and use it in an GXEJFx789Ey-00461-00113683-00113890 online forum for a bunch of extension GXEJFx789Ey-00462-00113891-00114043 educators and industry professionals GXEJFx789Ey-00463-00114044-00114346 here in Nebraska we'll see how that goes 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happens GbbCVLBs74y-00000-00000006-00000308 welcome back to Dan's on fandoms I'm Dan GbbCVLBs74y-00001-00000309-00000530 there's some very interesting bits of GbbCVLBs74y-00002-00000531-00000728 Star Wars news that has been making the GbbCVLBs74y-00003-00000729-00001025 rounds over the last 24 hours or so that GbbCVLBs74y-00004-00001026-00001295 I am super freaking excited about guys GbbCVLBs74y-00005-00001296-00001570 according to Peter Cerreta of slash GbbCVLBs74y-00006-00001571-00001871 films rosario Dawson has been cast to GbbCVLBs74y-00007-00001872-00002162 play ahsoka tano in the upcoming second GbbCVLBs74y-00008-00002163-00002423 season of the Mandalorian ABC's Clayton GbbCVLBs74y-00009-00002424-00002677 Sandell tweeted that he can confirm GbbCVLBs74y-00010-00002678-00002966 ahsoka will appear in the second season GbbCVLBs74y-00011-00002967-00003170 of the Mandalorian but he's heard GbbCVLBs74y-00012-00003171-00003269 several names GbbCVLBs74y-00013-00003270-00003551 aside from Rosario Dawson's as potential GbbCVLBs74y-00014-00003552-00003806 actors to play one of my favorite GbbCVLBs74y-00015-00003807-00004067 characters in all of Star Wars so two GbbCVLBs74y-00016-00004068-00004142 things GbbCVLBs74y-00017-00004143-00004352 ahsoka in the upcoming season of the GbbCVLBs74y-00018-00004353-00004658 Mandalorian sign me the hell up and two GbbCVLBs74y-00019-00004659-00004943 I'm all about rosario dawson playing GbbCVLBs74y-00020-00004944-00005186 ahsoka tano while this is still a rumor GbbCVLBs74y-00021-00005187-00005429 and has yet to be confirmed by Lucasfilm GbbCVLBs74y-00022-00005430-00005690 I think this seems like a safe bet to be GbbCVLBs74y-00023-00005691-00005968 legit rosario dawson has said for quite GbbCVLBs74y-00024-00005969-00006211 some time that she wants to portray a GbbCVLBs74y-00025-00006212-00006491 live-action rendition of ahsoka and i GbbCVLBs74y-00026-00006492-00006721 think she'd be such a great casting GbbCVLBs74y-00027-00006722-00006964 choice because of the fact that rosario GbbCVLBs74y-00028-00006965-00007184 Dawson has been vocal about wanting to GbbCVLBs74y-00029-00007184-00007381 portray ahsoka coupled with the fact GbbCVLBs74y-00030-00007383-00007603 that she's a solid actor makes me feel GbbCVLBs74y-00031-00007604-00007826 confident in her abilities to nail the GbbCVLBs74y-00032-00007827-00008066 role in the current canon the last we GbbCVLBs74y-00033-00008067-00008285 saw of ahsoka was when she returned to GbbCVLBs74y-00034-00008286-00008555 Lothal in the series finale of Star Wars GbbCVLBs74y-00035-00008556-00008813 rebels and it was alluded that she and GbbCVLBs74y-00036-00008814-00009064 Sabine Wren would be setting off on a GbbCVLBs74y-00037-00009065-00009302 journey to find out what happened to the GbbCVLBs74y-00038-00009303-00009371 young Jedi GbbCVLBs74y-00039-00009372-00009628 Ezra Bridger after he and Thrawn were GbbCVLBs74y-00040-00009629-00009856 sent into hyperspace by pergolas that GbbCVLBs74y-00041-00009857-00010058 helped defeat the Imperial presence on GbbCVLBs74y-00042-00010059-00010298 Lothal some other rumors have been GbbCVLBs74y-00043-00010299-00010478 floating around that there is going to GbbCVLBs74y-00044-00010479-00010735 be a sequel series to Star Wars rebels GbbCVLBs74y-00045-00010736-00011035 of Sabine and Asuka traversing the GbbCVLBs74y-00046-00011036-00011278 galaxy in search of Ezra which may GbbCVLBs74y-00047-00011279-00011552 actually air as early as this fall guys GbbCVLBs74y-00048-00011553-00011852 two shows airing potentially at the end GbbCVLBs74y-00049-00011853-00012098 of 2020 that may feature ahsoka GbbCVLBs74y-00050-00012099-00012367 uh I'm all about a baby with these GbbCVLBs74y-00051-00012368-00012677 rumors circulating I'm curious as to how GbbCVLBs74y-00052-00012678-00012929 ahsoka will actually show up in the GbbCVLBs74y-00053-00012930-00013121 upcoming season of the Mandalorian will GbbCVLBs74y-00054-00013122-00013369 ahsoka be helping dihn find out more GbbCVLBs74y-00055-00013371-00013622 about the child species and homeworld GbbCVLBs74y-00056-00013622-00013856 will she be assisting din in finding out GbbCVLBs74y-00057-00013857-00014105 more about the Jedi I think either could GbbCVLBs74y-00058-00014106-00014360 be possibilities and I honestly can't GbbCVLBs74y-00059-00014361-00014630 wait to see how ahsoka will factor into GbbCVLBs74y-00060-00014631-00014852 the story for the upcoming season of the GbbCVLBs74y-00061-00014853-00015097 Mandalorian guys this is super freaking GbbCVLBs74y-00062-00015099-00015172 exciting GbbCVLBs74y-00063-00015174-00015404 I love ahsoka tano she's one of my GbbCVLBs74y-00064-00015405-00015668 favorite characters and I think rosario GbbCVLBs74y-00065-00015669-00015944 Dawson would be great as a casting GbbCVLBs74y-00066-00015944-00016130 choice but what do you guys think GbbCVLBs74y-00067-00016131-00016358 are you excited that ahsoka is going to 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great lighter Gdi761nfOKc-00041-00023759-00024063 sunny right now great lighter shining Gdi761nfOKc-00042-00024064-00024311 green lighter shining on green lighter Gdi761nfOKc-00043-00024312-00024607 stranded green lighter signing off oh Gdi761nfOKc-00044-00024608-00024927 dawgs are open Gdi761nfOKc-00045-00024928-00025094 all day Gdi761nfOKc-00046-00025095-00025363 love your hair Gdi761nfOKc-00047-00025364-00025374 [Applause] Gdi761nfOKc-00048-00025375-00025599 [Music] Gdi761nfOKc-00049-00025600-00025735 b Gdi761nfOKc-00050-00025736-00025875 [Applause] Gdi761nfOKc-00051-00025876-00026389 [Music] Gdi761nfOKc-00052-00026389-00026470 [Applause] Gdi761nfOKc-00053-00026470-00026707 [Music] GdpOGBUyn1A-00000-00000041-00000096 [Music] GdpOGBUyn1A-00001-00000097-00000463 all right hello everyone welcome to GdpOGBUyn1A-00002-00000465-00000800 high-voltage short today I want to start GdpOGBUyn1A-00003-00000801-00001249 today by thanking all of you who support GdpOGBUyn1A-00004-00001250-00001702 the show by liking our video comments on GdpOGBUyn1A-00005-00001703-00002020 them and sharing the video and you who GdpOGBUyn1A-00006-00002021-00002288 contact me in private - I will not think GdpOGBUyn1A-00007-00002289-00002816 all of you so today we gonna talk about GdpOGBUyn1A-00008-00002817-00003181 the show itself about high voltage show GdpOGBUyn1A-00009-00003182-00003476 so what is the show what is it about GdpOGBUyn1A-00010-00003477-00003947 what is our mission and said - up as you GdpOGBUyn1A-00011-00003947-00004343 may notice there was a week of silence GdpOGBUyn1A-00012-00004344-00004892 after our first show it was like 1 or 2 GdpOGBUyn1A-00013-00004893-00005197 weeks there was no activity at all we GdpOGBUyn1A-00014-00005198-00005477 didn't post anything and what happened GdpOGBUyn1A-00015-00005478-00005813 was during this time me and my crew we GdpOGBUyn1A-00016-00005814-00006134 were deciding whether we should cancel GdpOGBUyn1A-00017-00006135-00006567 the show or we should continue because GdpOGBUyn1A-00018-00006568-00006938 during this time while I was receiving a GdpOGBUyn1A-00019-00006939-00007253 lot of good compliments a lot of GdpOGBUyn1A-00020-00007254-00007546 positive feedback I was receiving a lot GdpOGBUyn1A-00021-00007547-00008003 of critics - yeah a lot of critics so I GdpOGBUyn1A-00022-00008004-00008196 just friendly suggestion GdpOGBUyn1A-00023-00008197-00008630 somewhere kind of scary there are some GdpOGBUyn1A-00024-00008631-00008984 of them that I would consider as some GdpOGBUyn1A-00025-00008985-00009631 friendly warning advices anyway so there GdpOGBUyn1A-00026-00009632-00009809 were some critics were just friendly GdpOGBUyn1A-00027-00009810-00010085 some were kind of mean - so anyway GdpOGBUyn1A-00028-00010086-00010313 instead of cancelling the show or stop GdpOGBUyn1A-00029-00010314-00010663 it I decided today in this show I'm GdpOGBUyn1A-00030-00010664-00011045 gonna address some of the critics and I GdpOGBUyn1A-00031-00011046-00011330 will answer some questions and I hope GdpOGBUyn1A-00032-00011331-00011688 they will satisfy your curiosity GdpOGBUyn1A-00033-00011689-00012351 curiosity guys yeah so GdpOGBUyn1A-00034-00012352-00012883 high voltage show is an online show but GdpOGBUyn1A-00035-00012884-00013122 like I always say with the possibility GdpOGBUyn1A-00036-00013123-00013474 to be on TV soon I always say that with GdpOGBUyn1A-00037-00013475-00013702 the possibility to be on TV so our GdpOGBUyn1A-00038-00013703-00014041 mission we have a double-edge mission GdpOGBUyn1A-00039-00014041-00014362 one is international one is local or GdpOGBUyn1A-00040-00014363-00014691 international like an abroad abroad on GdpOGBUyn1A-00041-00014693-00015058 our mission is to entertain our viewers GdpOGBUyn1A-00042-00015059-00015493 our followers to keep them up-to-date to GdpOGBUyn1A-00043-00015494-00015753 entertain all of them who watch the show GdpOGBUyn1A-00044-00015754-00015991 to give them something beneficial from GdpOGBUyn1A-00045-00015991-00016393 every episode they watch our local like GdpOGBUyn1A-00046-00016394-00016833 local mission is to help Haiti which is GdpOGBUyn1A-00047-00016834-00017338 my home country because I am sick and GdpOGBUyn1A-00048-00017339-00017700 tired of seeing the international press GdpOGBUyn1A-00049-00017701-00018255 misreporting the Halley's problem I mean GdpOGBUyn1A-00050-00018256-00018603 not all of them some do it sometimes GdpOGBUyn1A-00051-00018604-00018880 they do it on purpose Li like enters GdpOGBUyn1A-00052-00018881-00019134 intentionally sometimes it happened just GdpOGBUyn1A-00053-00019135-00019465 because they don't take time to explain GdpOGBUyn1A-00054-00019466-00019794 the whole context of the problem GdpOGBUyn1A-00055-00019795-00020031 they just remit the fact that they don't GdpOGBUyn1A-00056-00020032-00020233 explain the whole context behind are GdpOGBUyn1A-00057-00020234-00020722 such behind or behavior or sometimes GdpOGBUyn1A-00058-00020723-00021062 they don't explain the true reality so GdpOGBUyn1A-00059-00021063-00021439 the foreigners who watch this news about GdpOGBUyn1A-00060-00021440-00021733 Haiti and Bank you just gotta buy GdpOGBUyn1A-00061-00021734-00022099 perception of the country so yeah that GdpOGBUyn1A-00062-00022100-00022468 happened however I am sick and tired of GdpOGBUyn1A-00063-00022469-00022950 the local press the Haitian media that GdpOGBUyn1A-00064-00022951-00023359 miss reporting information to cover the GdpOGBUyn1A-00065-00023360-00023593 mess of the Haitian governments like all GdpOGBUyn1A-00066-00023594-00023890 of them actually not all the media do GdpOGBUyn1A-00067-00023891-00024355 that some do it some of them do it I am GdpOGBUyn1A-00068-00024356-00024822 tired of seeing those media lying on a GdpOGBUyn1A-00069-00024823-00025157 daily basis to cover GdpOGBUyn1A-00070-00025158-00025784 the treatment the horrible things the GdpOGBUyn1A-00071-00025785-00026061 Haitian the horrible things the Haitian GdpOGBUyn1A-00072-00026062-00026232 government have been doing to the GdpOGBUyn1A-00073-00026233-00026526 Haitian people for too many for so long GdpOGBUyn1A-00074-00026527-00027288 so the government they don't want you to GdpOGBUyn1A-00075-00027289-00027537 know what's going on because they don't GdpOGBUyn1A-00076-00027538-00027824 treat the people well why here and hey GdpOGBUyn1A-00077-00027825-00028338 so what happened they don't want you who GdpOGBUyn1A-00078-00028339-00028592 live abroad to know what's going on here GdpOGBUyn1A-00079-00028593-00028887 they don't want the Haitian diaspora the GdpOGBUyn1A-00080-00028888-00029067 Haitian who lives abroad they don't want GdpOGBUyn1A-00081-00029068-00029247 they have American citizen they don't GdpOGBUyn1A-00082-00029248-00029529 want the Canadian the European who live GdpOGBUyn1A-00083-00029530-00029733 abroad to know what's going on you know GdpOGBUyn1A-00084-00029733-00029982 what it's because those kind of GdpOGBUyn1A-00085-00029983-00030123 treatment they give to the Haitian GdpOGBUyn1A-00086-00030124-00030501 people they know those kind of treatment GdpOGBUyn1A-00087-00030502-00030756 you don't even give it to your pet to GdpOGBUyn1A-00088-00030757-00031017 your dogs you would not allow your dog GdpOGBUyn1A-00089-00031018-00031173 to be treated the way they treat the GdpOGBUyn1A-00090-00031174-00031386 Haitian people so that's why this GdpOGBUyn1A-00091-00031387-00031761 government they make sure they pay GdpOGBUyn1A-00092-00031762-00032076 there's some media to cover what's going GdpOGBUyn1A-00093-00032077-00032454 on so anyway and this show I'm gonna try GdpOGBUyn1A-00094-00032455-00032946 to regulate certain things so I don't GdpOGBUyn1A-00095-00032947-00033252 think lying or cover what's going on GdpOGBUyn1A-00096-00033253-00033504 here gonna help like I believe if you GdpOGBUyn1A-00097-00033505-00033819 sit and you don't talk about your your GdpOGBUyn1A-00098-00033820-00034038 disease to anyone you don't talk to GdpOGBUyn1A-00099-00034039-00034227 specialist about it you don't get GdpOGBUyn1A-00100-00034228-00034328 diagnosed GdpOGBUyn1A-00101-00034329-00034650 you're gonna ended up dying you can now GdpOGBUyn1A-00102-00034651-00035004 you will never get cured so that the GdpOGBUyn1A-00103-00035005-00035268 show is about that the show I voted show GdpOGBUyn1A-00104-00035269-00035546 like the name is it so the tension gonna GdpOGBUyn1A-00105-00035547-00036278 rise a little bit in this show so the GdpOGBUyn1A-00106-00036279-00036807 government try to ask the media here to GdpOGBUyn1A-00107-00036808-00037161 cover what's going on here so just to GdpOGBUyn1A-00108-00037162-00037646 keep you away just for you to don't know GdpOGBUyn1A-00109-00037647-00037782 what's going on here GdpOGBUyn1A-00110-00037783-00037971 they don't want the Haitian who live GdpOGBUyn1A-00111-00037972-00038226 abroad or the foreigners to GdpOGBUyn1A-00112-00038227-00038424 to be in touch with the Haitian cities GdpOGBUyn1A-00113-00038425-00038568 and then be like hey guys you paying GdpOGBUyn1A-00114-00038569-00038766 your taxes they should not treat you GdpOGBUyn1A-00115-00038767-00039045 that way so anyway they don't want that GdpOGBUyn1A-00116-00039046-00039300 will happen they tryna keep them cover GdpOGBUyn1A-00117-00039301-00039585 it so basically high voltage shows is GdpOGBUyn1A-00118-00039586-00039953 like we enter those things we kind of GdpOGBUyn1A-00119-00039954-00040179 we're gonna try to google it certain GdpOGBUyn1A-00120-00040180-00040611 things because me personally I don't GdpOGBUyn1A-00121-00040612-00040932 have any fears I don't have any fears GdpOGBUyn1A-00122-00040933-00041331 nothing embarrass to expose our problem GdpOGBUyn1A-00123-00041332-00041640 to the world because I believe the word GdpOGBUyn1A-00124-00041641-00041994 is connected we all gotta live in a GdpOGBUyn1A-00125-00041995-00043107 better situation so I'm doing this I'm GdpOGBUyn1A-00126-00043108-00043395 doing this in order to make the GdpOGBUyn1A-00127-00043396-00043614 government or the Haitian authorities to GdpOGBUyn1A-00128-00043615-00043931 feel embarrassed about what they do and GdpOGBUyn1A-00129-00043932-00044205 I'm doing this also to tap on their GdpOGBUyn1A-00130-00044206-00044484 nerves never a negative way but in a GdpOGBUyn1A-00131-00044485-00044787 positive way for the I'm trying to tap GdpOGBUyn1A-00132-00044788-00044943 on the nerves of the Haitian population GdpOGBUyn1A-00133-00044944-00045240 or the Haitian who live abroad or you GdpOGBUyn1A-00134-00045241-00045786 guys watching me so you can try to force GdpOGBUyn1A-00135-00045787-00045932 the government take his ones GdpOGBUyn1A-00136-00045933-00046494 responsibility to do his jobs anyway so GdpOGBUyn1A-00137-00046495-00046785 I also received critics I mean that GdpOGBUyn1A-00138-00046786-00046960 really critics like I've been asked a GdpOGBUyn1A-00139-00046961-00047187 lot why I'm doing this show in English GdpOGBUyn1A-00140-00047188-00047373 where I'm trying to speak in like a GdpOGBUyn1A-00141-00047374-00047532 language which is not my native language GdpOGBUyn1A-00142-00047533-00047785 it would have been better anyway so hey GdpOGBUyn1A-00143-00047786-00048129 guys come on if I want to reach out to a GdpOGBUyn1A-00144-00048130-00048540 broader international audience if I want GdpOGBUyn1A-00145-00048541-00048720 to bring their attention to what's going GdpOGBUyn1A-00146-00048721-00049002 on in Haiti I better speak a language GdpOGBUyn1A-00147-00049003-00049241 that they would be able to understand GdpOGBUyn1A-00148-00049242-00049593 it's simple it's a strategic choice like GdpOGBUyn1A-00149-00049594-00050049 simple yeah I got like critics like I GdpOGBUyn1A-00150-00050050-00050208 mean I don't think I really care about GdpOGBUyn1A-00151-00050209-00050433 my accent or whatever I don't really GdpOGBUyn1A-00152-00050434-00050847 care but actually if it's that matter if GdpOGBUyn1A-00153-00050848-00051252 it's matter English is one of three GdpOGBUyn1A-00154-00051253-00051460 other languages that I can speak I mean GdpOGBUyn1A-00155-00051461-00051576 for other languages GdpOGBUyn1A-00156-00051577-00051801 I can't speak so I could have done the GdpOGBUyn1A-00157-00051802-00051996 show in any other language but anyway I GdpOGBUyn1A-00158-00051997-00052413 do it I do it in English so I can talk GdpOGBUyn1A-00159-00052414-00052641 about other other things like I would GdpOGBUyn1A-00160-00052642-00052915 have a broader audience like and this is GdpOGBUyn1A-00161-00052916-00053292 a way for me to encourage the young GdpOGBUyn1A-00162-00053293-00053736 Haitian to understand the language which GdpOGBUyn1A-00163-00053737-00053925 is a bridge like that would open you to GdpOGBUyn1A-00164-00053926-00054322 the world so anyway about like GdpOGBUyn1A-00165-00054323-00054490 credentials I don't think I will talk GdpOGBUyn1A-00166-00054491-00054790 about my credentials at all I mean I GdpOGBUyn1A-00167-00054791-00055003 would not tell you about my credentials GdpOGBUyn1A-00168-00055004-00055251 or in your academic degree like find GdpOGBUyn1A-00169-00055252-00055491 them yourself I tried to find him on GdpOGBUyn1A-00170-00055492-00055786 Google I mean I'm like on everywhere GdpOGBUyn1A-00171-00055787-00055950 Lincoln in any way you find them you GdpOGBUyn1A-00172-00055951-00056382 will find who I am anyway but I mean the GdpOGBUyn1A-00173-00056383-00056854 English I will tell you that I do it in GdpOGBUyn1A-00174-00056854-00057261 English English I never actually I never GdpOGBUyn1A-00175-00057262-00057504 learned English in school Institute GdpOGBUyn1A-00176-00057505-00057916 Academy any like like all of those GdpOGBUyn1A-00177-00057916-00058174 languages that I can speak to I like I GdpOGBUyn1A-00178-00058175-00058474 dare I dare all those schools in Haiti GdpOGBUyn1A-00179-00058475-00058899 like Institute to prove their life they GdpOGBUyn1A-00180-00058900-00059262 have my name as as their student I met GdpOGBUyn1A-00181-00059263-00059529 was never involved in any programs so I GdpOGBUyn1A-00182-00059530-00059769 learn English by massive like all those GdpOGBUyn1A-00183-00059770-00060184 language other languages too so oh yeah GdpOGBUyn1A-00184-00060185-00060537 but I have to say this I went I remember GdpOGBUyn1A-00185-00060538-00060922 that I went to one of them in Parliament GdpOGBUyn1A-00186-00060923-00061429 Haley he's won this school is one of the GdpOGBUyn1A-00187-00061429-00061672 most notorious one I went there only GdpOGBUyn1A-00188-00061673-00062047 once one time just to pass our TOEFL GdpOGBUyn1A-00189-00062048-00062272 exam that I passed successfully so GdpOGBUyn1A-00190-00062273-00062446 anyway that I don't want us I don't see GdpOGBUyn1A-00191-00062447-00062667 why I would get critics because I do the GdpOGBUyn1A-00192-00062668-00062943 show in English anyway oh it's not it GdpOGBUyn1A-00193-00062944-00063316 doesn't really matter for me so and this GdpOGBUyn1A-00194-00063316-00063600 show also I'm going to talk about GdpOGBUyn1A-00195-00063601-00064041 international politics like especially GdpOGBUyn1A-00196-00064042-00064212 I'm gonna talk about politics and GdpOGBUyn1A-00197-00064213-00064528 countries that are strategic partners of GdpOGBUyn1A-00198-00064529-00064821 Haiti like our strategic neighbors GdpOGBUyn1A-00199-00064822-00065172 the United States of America Canada MDR GdpOGBUyn1A-00200-00065173-00065397 Dominican Republic the European Union we GdpOGBUyn1A-00201-00065398-00065634 have relations with all of them their GdpOGBUyn1A-00202-00065635-00066054 politics would interested me like I want GdpOGBUyn1A-00203-00066055-00066339 to analyze discuss and comment how the GdpOGBUyn1A-00204-00066340-00066662 different decision made by the GdpOGBUyn1A-00205-00066663-00067170 administration's with impact hey I want GdpOGBUyn1A-00206-00067171-00067752 to do that too and this show so yeah GdpOGBUyn1A-00207-00067753-00067992 yeah it's like it's an open world it's GdpOGBUyn1A-00208-00067993-00068262 Internet I can do it but as long as I GdpOGBUyn1A-00209-00068263-00068454 don't do political interference or I GdpOGBUyn1A-00210-00068455-00068745 don't do oh I'm not meddling in GdpOGBUyn1A-00211-00068746-00069140 anybody's election so I can talk about GdpOGBUyn1A-00212-00069141-00069573 international politics yeah so that's GdpOGBUyn1A-00213-00069574-00070371 basically what I hypothesis yes I really GdpOGBUyn1A-00214-00070372-00070599 definitely talk about international GdpOGBUyn1A-00215-00070600-00070845 politics like I said the world is like a GdpOGBUyn1A-00216-00070846-00071052 global village where everything is GdpOGBUyn1A-00217-00071053-00071109 connected GdpOGBUyn1A-00218-00071110-00071666 yeah so I'm trying to learn from GdpOGBUyn1A-00219-00071667-00072015 experience from other show from other GdpOGBUyn1A-00220-00072016-00072468 countries matter anyway to to apply them GdpOGBUyn1A-00221-00072469-00072741 in my home country and see how what how GdpOGBUyn1A-00222-00072742-00072939 I can help myself how I can contribute GdpOGBUyn1A-00223-00072940-00073308 myself yeah I do talk about other things GdpOGBUyn1A-00224-00073309-00073434 like entertainment GdpOGBUyn1A-00225-00073435-00073683 like in my previous show where I talk GdpOGBUyn1A-00226-00073684-00074127 about on the 5g network I also talked GdpOGBUyn1A-00227-00074128-00074526 about I talked about the trade war GdpOGBUyn1A-00228-00074527-00074793 between the United States and in China GdpOGBUyn1A-00229-00074794-00075147 so yeah recently I watched the NBA GdpOGBUyn1A-00230-00075148-00075945 sports - yeah anyway yeah so nanami took GdpOGBUyn1A-00231-00075946-00076254 to the haitian who live abroad GdpOGBUyn1A-00232-00076255-00076488 hardik like they used to call the GdpOGBUyn1A-00233-00076489-00077010 Haitian diaspora I'm not saying this the GdpOGBUyn1A-00234-00077011-00077289 Haitian diaspora lives everywhere the GdpOGBUyn1A-00235-00077290-00077547 United States Dominican Republic Chile GdpOGBUyn1A-00236-00077548-00077804 Canada friends everywhere GdpOGBUyn1A-00237-00077805-00078112 oh yeah I think I get some critics from GdpOGBUyn1A-00238-00078113-00078365 a couple critics I mean couple questions GdpOGBUyn1A-00239-00078366-00078810 well from them too so let me say this GdpOGBUyn1A-00240-00078811-00079150 you live in the country I know things GdpOGBUyn1A-00241-00079151-00079441 guy hard for you there you live and GdpOGBUyn1A-00242-00079442-00079822 abroad you work you pay your taxes you GdpOGBUyn1A-00243-00079823-00080043 pay your bills GdpOGBUyn1A-00244-00080044-00080467 but I'm sorry to say this I'm not too GdpOGBUyn1A-00245-00080468-00080866 proud of what you've been doing in a GdpOGBUyn1A-00246-00080867-00081163 collective way I know you've been GdpOGBUyn1A-00247-00081164-00081353 working hard to support your family like GdpOGBUyn1A-00248-00081354-00081529 an individual basis but then GdpOGBUyn1A-00249-00081530-00081781 collectively what you have what have you GdpOGBUyn1A-00250-00081782-00081888 done for Haiti GdpOGBUyn1A-00251-00081889-00082351 so you left Haiti like long time ago you GdpOGBUyn1A-00252-00082352-00082525 some of you never come back GdpOGBUyn1A-00253-00082526-00082810 you never come back you could have GdpOGBUyn1A-00254-00082811-00083029 really put yourself together and come GdpOGBUyn1A-00255-00083030-00083299 back and invest some money in Haiti like GdpOGBUyn1A-00256-00083300-00083419 you could have built the hotel GdpOGBUyn1A-00257-00083420-00083810 restaurant do business give us some jobs GdpOGBUyn1A-00258-00083811-00084172 to the young people so but I know the GdpOGBUyn1A-00259-00084173-00084454 context in Haiti sometime ina but yeah GdpOGBUyn1A-00260-00084455-00084691 it can be bad it can't the context can GdpOGBUyn1A-00261-00084692-00084959 be a little bit difficult but hey come GdpOGBUyn1A-00262-00084960-00085524 on one thing I can tell you you your GdpOGBUyn1A-00263-00085525-00085918 first excuse is like there's a Haitian GdpOGBUyn1A-00264-00085919-00086224 mafia that would go after you whenever GdpOGBUyn1A-00265-00086225-00086736 you would come back come on come on guys GdpOGBUyn1A-00266-00086737-00086972 after all I'm not saying there is not a GdpOGBUyn1A-00267-00086973-00087256 mafia in Haiti or whatever it's GdpOGBUyn1A-00268-00087257-00087584 everywhere it's business if I'm here you GdpOGBUyn1A-00269-00087585-00087821 come right here hey man I'm gonna do GdpOGBUyn1A-00270-00087822-00088051 things to keep you away it's a business GdpOGBUyn1A-00271-00088052-00088235 it's the onion business it's the world GdpOGBUyn1A-00272-00088236-00088438 it's like it's like you know it's it's GdpOGBUyn1A-00273-00088439-00088594 not game it's not always fair but you GdpOGBUyn1A-00274-00088595-00088855 gotta fight take a risk like I'm taking GdpOGBUyn1A-00275-00088856-00089074 a risk to expose those things I'm taking GdpOGBUyn1A-00276-00089075-00089335 a risk myself to talk about those things GdpOGBUyn1A-00277-00089336-00089542 so come on guys come back and do GdpOGBUyn1A-00278-00089543-00089909 something yes it can be hard at the GdpOGBUyn1A-00279-00089910-00090100 beginning it can be a little bit hard GdpOGBUyn1A-00280-00090101-00090335 but try to do something organize GdpOGBUyn1A-00281-00090336-00090547 yourself put your money together and GdpOGBUyn1A-00282-00090548-00090965 asked like ask demand a politician GdpOGBUyn1A-00283-00090966-00091265 Harry asked for representative asked to GdpOGBUyn1A-00284-00091266-00091495 have representative and the Parliament GdpOGBUyn1A-00285-00091496-00091871 put your money together organize GdpOGBUyn1A-00286-00091872-00092126 yourself participate in the politics we GdpOGBUyn1A-00287-00092127-00092360 will be ready like it's it's gonna be GdpOGBUyn1A-00288-00092361-00092900 really open for that so yeah and and in GdpOGBUyn1A-00289-00092901-00093251 case you forget it let me remind you you GdpOGBUyn1A-00290-00093252-00093500 might forget this do you know you've GdpOGBUyn1A-00291-00093501-00093650 been playing fooled by the Haitian GdpOGBUyn1A-00292-00093651-00094154 government they try to I mean I think GdpOGBUyn1A-00293-00094155-00094649 since 2012 13 the Haitian government GdpOGBUyn1A-00294-00094650-00094910 this current one and the past one they GdpOGBUyn1A-00295-00094911-00095117 have been taking your money from every GdpOGBUyn1A-00296-00095118-00095402 transfer you send back to your family GdpOGBUyn1A-00297-00095403-00095642 member in Haiti the government tip one GdpOGBUyn1A-00298-00095643-00095984 point one and a half US dollar one and a GdpOGBUyn1A-00299-00095985-00096173 half US dollars from every single GdpOGBUyn1A-00300-00096174-00096410 transfer you made this is a lot of money GdpOGBUyn1A-00301-00096411-00096926 so ask ask ask report like try to GdpOGBUyn1A-00302-00096927-00097256 participate get come back together so GdpOGBUyn1A-00303-00097257-00097454 anyway that's my big reproach for you GdpOGBUyn1A-00304-00097455-00097616 like you've been staying away for too GdpOGBUyn1A-00305-00097617-00097811 long you try only like some of you you GdpOGBUyn1A-00306-00097812-00098135 would call and participate in where your GdpOGBUyn1A-00307-00098136-00098480 show where you give your opinion but GdpOGBUyn1A-00308-00098481-00098798 opinion it's not enough do something GdpOGBUyn1A-00309-00098799-00099164 like do actions all right so even from GdpOGBUyn1A-00310-00099165-00099806 this show that basically what high GdpOGBUyn1A-00311-00099807-00100147 voltage that's what the show is about so GdpOGBUyn1A-00312-00100148-00100526 that's what we do but thing is that GdpOGBUyn1A-00313-00100527-00100772 things are not really easy because we GdpOGBUyn1A-00314-00100773-00101141 are like we don't really have all the GdpOGBUyn1A-00315-00101142-00101432 materials and equipment we need we don't GdpOGBUyn1A-00316-00101433-00101684 really have a studio we just convert GdpOGBUyn1A-00317-00101685-00102098 like like office like we're all working GdpOGBUyn1A-00318-00102099-00102449 place like a studio winning super we GdpOGBUyn1A-00319-00102450-00102695 need everything so if you guys who's GdpOGBUyn1A-00320-00102696-00102902 watching like especially you and the GdpOGBUyn1A-00321-00102903-00103343 Haitian community fluid are Canada like GdpOGBUyn1A-00322-00103344-00103558 I talked to this I receive a message GdpOGBUyn1A-00323-00103559-00103989 from a guy he lives in Toronto GdpOGBUyn1A-00324-00103990-00104219 yeah like he was asking me he likes the GdpOGBUyn1A-00325-00104220-00104480 show but he wanted more anyway so I do GdpOGBUyn1A-00326-00104481-00104775 this show today I really hope what I GdpOGBUyn1A-00327-00104776-00105168 said give you an outline of what we do GdpOGBUyn1A-00328-00105169-00105639 of what what what what our mission is GdpOGBUyn1A-00329-00105640-00106241 about so etc I'm looking forward to GdpOGBUyn1A-00330-00106242-00106665 prison or the show like this where the GdpOGBUyn1A-00331-00106666-00106883 tension really rise like the namesake GdpOGBUyn1A-00332-00106884-00107261 high voltage I'm really looking forward GdpOGBUyn1A-00333-00107263-00107645 to present you on the show and I GdpOGBUyn1A-00334-00107646-00108075 encourage you to watch our video to like GdpOGBUyn1A-00335-00108076-00108554 our video share and we are on Facebook GdpOGBUyn1A-00336-00108555-00108849 we are building our YouTube channel so GdpOGBUyn1A-00337-00108850-00109257 far yeah so get in touch with us let me GdpOGBUyn1A-00338-00109258-00109466 know what you think what are your GdpOGBUyn1A-00339-00109467-00109728 opinions yeah that's how we're gonna GdpOGBUyn1A-00340-00109729-00110091 make the show so stay tuned because I GdpOGBUyn1A-00341-00110092-00110397 think starting from next week or maybe GdpOGBUyn1A-00342-00110398-00110741 the week after I'm gonna try to bring GdpOGBUyn1A-00343-00110742-00111096 guest to the show I mean people who GdpOGBUyn1A-00344-00111097-00111311 lives in Haiti or just tourists that GdpOGBUyn1A-00345-00111313-00111639 visit Haiti I'm gonna try to bring them GdpOGBUyn1A-00346-00111640-00111804 to the show they will tell you about the GdpOGBUyn1A-00347-00111805-00111969 experience or they will tell you about GdpOGBUyn1A-00348-00111970-00112269 topics any any kind of topics that we GdpOGBUyn1A-00349-00112270-00112524 will talk about so anyway that's GdpOGBUyn1A-00350-00112525-00112716 basically what high voltage show is GdpOGBUyn1A-00351-00112717-00113072 about that's what we do yeah GdpOGBUyn1A-00352-00113073-00113609 connect with us yeah and I'm looking GdpOGBUyn1A-00353-00113610-00113883 forward to see you until the next time GdpOGBUyn1A-00354-00113883-00114279 bye bye thank you Ge-EBryACsu-00000-00000045-00000345 human Thuong national park or national Ge-EBryACsu-00001-00000346-00000532 park of upper you men Vietnamese Ge-EBryACsu-00002-00000533-00000826 language von Kwok Jia Yu min Tuan is a Ge-EBryACsu-00003-00000827-00001027 National Park in the province of Kim Ge-EBryACsu-00004-00001028-00001632 Jong Vietnam Ge-EBryACsu-00005-00001634-00002172 topic establishment Ge-EBryACsu-00006-00002173-00002417 it was established according to decision Ge-EBryACsu-00007-00002418-00002724 number eleven two thousand seconds QT TG Ge-EBryACsu-00008-00002725-00003069 dated the 14th of January 2002 signed by Ge-EBryACsu-00009-00003070-00003258 then Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Ge-EBryACsu-00010-00003259-00003558 Tan Dung this decision turned the human Ge-EBryACsu-00011-00003559-00003782 Thuong nature reserve into human Duong Ge-EBryACsu-00012-00003783-00004379 National Park Ge-EBryACsu-00013-00004380-00004956 topic area and location Ge-EBryACsu-00014-00004957-00005304 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Ge-EBryACsu-00028-00009367-00009609 species of birds has been recorded here Ge-EBryACsu-00029-00009610-00009840 including the Oriental darter spot build Ge-EBryACsu-00030-00009841-00010080 Pelican black-headed ibis glossy Ibis Ge-EBryACsu-00031-00010081-00010317 greater spotted eagle and asian golden Ge-EBryACsu-00032-00010318-00010590 weaver there are also a total of 39 Ge-EBryACsu-00033-00010591-00010893 amphibian species and 34 species of fish Ge-EBryACsu-00034-00010894-00011458 in the park Ge-EBryACsu-00035-00011459-00011799 topic first Indochina war and Vietnam Ge-EBryACsu-00036-00011800-00012187 War Ge-EBryACsu-00037-00012188-00012448 during the first Indochina war the u-men Ge-EBryACsu-00038-00012449-00012732 forest was a Viet Minh stronghold in Ge-EBryACsu-00039-00012733-00013069 1952 500 French paratroopers dropped Ge-EBryACsu-00040-00013069-00013269 into the human forest to attack Viet Ge-EBryACsu-00041-00013270-00013437 Minh and were never heard from again 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GkBwPavKccc-00008-00003017-00003160 control please stop me now except don't GkBwPavKccc-00009-00003161-00003392 really cuz I really like the books so as GkBwPavKccc-00010-00003393-00003529 always let's start with books that I GkBwPavKccc-00011-00003530-00003811 have already read the first of which is GkBwPavKccc-00012-00003811-00004211 meant to be broken by brandy would snow GkBwPavKccc-00013-00004212-00004411 I almost forgot Brandy's name I don't GkBwPavKccc-00014-00004412-00004588 really know how because she's my friend GkBwPavKccc-00015-00004589-00004895 I have a full review video for this book GkBwPavKccc-00016-00004896-00005104 on my channel I will link it as well as GkBwPavKccc-00017-00005105-00005363 my for view on Goodreads in the GkBwPavKccc-00018-00005364-00005695 description box below brandy is a member GkBwPavKccc-00019-00005696-00005884 of the same writing group that I'm in GkBwPavKccc-00020-00005885-00006079 the deadline league and she asked me to GkBwPavKccc-00021-00006080-00006247 read this thing and I read it and I GkBwPavKccc-00022-00006248-00006523 loved it and you should read it too the GkBwPavKccc-00023-00006525-00006764 next book that I got is flame in the GkBwPavKccc-00024-00006765-00006959 mist by Renee ah da and - I already on GkBwPavKccc-00025-00006959-00007100 this book yes I do but this one's a GkBwPavKccc-00026-00007101-00007526 different cover so basically this is the GkBwPavKccc-00027-00007527-00007834 paperback the new cover I did not buy GkBwPavKccc-00028-00007836-00008149 this I got it as a freebie from the GkBwPavKccc-00029-00008150-00008521 publisher for pre-ordering smoke in the GkBwPavKccc-00030-00008522-00008774 Sun so it doesn't count GkBwPavKccc-00031-00008775-00008953 except now I have to find a place for my GkBwPavKccc-00032-00008954-00009227 shelf on it I'm gonna put my whole shelf GkBwPavKccc-00033-00009228-00009414 on this book that's gonna be hard girl GkBwPavKccc-00034-00009415-00009599 whoo doggies GkBwPavKccc-00035-00009600-00009856 alright so I gotta find a place for this GkBwPavKccc-00036-00009857-00010070 book on my shelf it'll probably just go GkBwPavKccc-00037-00010071-00010163 next to the other one but then we would GkBwPavKccc-00038-00010164-00010280 have two of the same book right next to GkBwPavKccc-00039-00010281-00010367 each other I don't really know how I GkBwPavKccc-00040-00010368-00010531 feel about it but I like this one I like GkBwPavKccc-00041-00010532-00010660 the cover better I don't really know GkBwPavKccc-00042-00010661-00010937 what I'm gonna do but hey hi I got this GkBwPavKccc-00043-00010938-00011146 one too I also have a for review for GkBwPavKccc-00044-00011147-00011299 this book on my channel i'll link that GkBwPavKccc-00045-00011300-00011741 as well the next book that I got is very GkBwPavKccc-00046-00011742-00011935 long title so I'm gonna have to like GkBwPavKccc-00047-00011936-00012246 read it to you from I can't remember it GkBwPavKccc-00048-00012247-00012473 everything you need to ace English GkBwPavKccc-00049-00012474-00013072 language arts in one big fat notebook so GkBwPavKccc-00050-00013073-00013343 basically I bought this book because I GkBwPavKccc-00051-00013344-00013572 seen it at I think I was at Sam's Club GkBwPavKccc-00052-00013574-00013922 but it is for like middle school people GkBwPavKccc-00053-00013922-00014438 and it has a lot of like examples and GkBwPavKccc-00054-00014438-00014600 illustrations and basically it was three GkBwPavKccc-00055-00014601-00014794 o'clock in the morning one morning and I GkBwPavKccc-00056-00014796-00014963 was writing and I can't remember what I GkBwPavKccc-00057-00014963-00015175 was looking up adverbs adjectives GkBwPavKccc-00058-00015176-00015566 adjunctive conjugal visits I don't know GkBwPavKccc-00059-00015566-00015743 what I was looking up but whatever it GkBwPavKccc-00060-00015744-00015893 was that I was looking up it was too GkBwPavKccc-00061-00015894-00016211 hard for me to like comprehend the GkBwPavKccc-00062-00016212-00016424 actual terminology that the computer was GkBwPavKccc-00063-00016425-00016811 giving me because it was too adult and I GkBwPavKccc-00064-00016812-00017021 was like wow I really need like GkBwPavKccc-00065-00017022-00017213 something that explains this to me in GkBwPavKccc-00066-00017214-00017474 like a five-year-old's version so that I GkBwPavKccc-00067-00017475-00017680 can figure it out then I'm like this GkBwPavKccc-00068-00017681-00017897 sleep-deprived and and then like three GkBwPavKccc-00069-00017898-00018059 days later I passed this in the store GkBwPavKccc-00070-00018060-00018215 and I went that's exactly what I need GkBwPavKccc-00071-00018216-00018632 right there so this guy I've already GkBwPavKccc-00072-00018633-00018785 kind of perused through it a little bit GkBwPavKccc-00073-00018786-00019042 it is gonna be like my new favorite GkBwPavKccc-00074-00019043-00019322 writing tool because it's like you don't GkBwPavKccc-00075-00019323-00019532 have to get through 80 paragraphs of GkBwPavKccc-00076-00019533-00019721 mumbo jumbo to get like the fact that GkBwPavKccc-00077-00019722-00019949 you need it's just you look it up the GkBwPavKccc-00078-00019950-00020165 fact you need is there and it's glorious GkBwPavKccc-00079-00020166-00020393 and wonderful now we're going to get GkBwPavKccc-00080-00020394-00020686 into mmm GkBwPavKccc-00081-00020687-00020981 paranormal type books that I bought this GkBwPavKccc-00082-00020982-00021161 month I ought to know any book system I GkBwPavKccc-00083-00021162-00021272 thought I separated the mountain GkBwPavKccc-00084-00021273-00021419 categories because I have nothing better GkBwPavKccc-00085-00021420-00021764 to do with my life the first of which is GkBwPavKccc-00086-00021765-00022151 a trilogy and it is by my favorite susan GkBwPavKccc-00087-00022152-00022181 dennard GkBwPavKccc-00088-00022182-00022418 and it is the something strange and GkBwPavKccc-00089-00022419-00022750 deadly trilogy which includes something GkBwPavKccc-00090-00022751-00023255 strange and deadly a darkness strange GkBwPavKccc-00091-00023256-00023680 and lovely and strange and ever after GkBwPavKccc-00092-00023681-00023812 yes GkBwPavKccc-00093-00023813-00024158 so this trilogy follows a girl by the GkBwPavKccc-00094-00024159-00024656 name of Eleanor who I believe both her GkBwPavKccc-00095-00024657-00024965 brother and her father died I don't know GkBwPavKccc-00096-00024966-00025124 if it's mysterious or if there's a GkBwPavKccc-00097-00025125-00025400 reason I can't remember but her mother GkBwPavKccc-00098-00025401-00025580 is like scrambling to hold the family's GkBwPavKccc-00099-00025581-00025712 money together and it's basically trying GkBwPavKccc-00100-00025713-00025834 to marry her off so they can have money GkBwPavKccc-00101-00025835-00026006 and she doesn't want to be married off GkBwPavKccc-00102-00026007-00026150 so she kind of like runs away and joins GkBwPavKccc-00103-00026151-00026345 this paranormal group because she starts GkBwPavKccc-00104-00026345-00026531 seeing dead people walking around London GkBwPavKccc-00105-00026532-00026716 it sounds like stalking Jack the Ripper GkBwPavKccc-00106-00026717-00026854 me but with susan dennard right event GkBwPavKccc-00107-00026855-00027013 said Kerry - calcio and I like both of GkBwPavKccc-00108-00027014-00027175 them and I liked that story so I was GkBwPavKccc-00109-00027176-00027391 like why not because it's susan dennard GkBwPavKccc-00110-00027392-00027670 and it's three books in some book outlet GkBwPavKccc-00111-00027670-00027789 and they're on sale and it's the new GkBwPavKccc-00112-00027791-00028036 covers and I just couldn't be happier GkBwPavKccc-00113-00028037-00028177 about this purchase if you can't tell GkBwPavKccc-00114-00028177-00028395 from the smile on my face GkBwPavKccc-00115-00028395-00028731 the next two books that I got are a GkBwPavKccc-00116-00028732-00028995 series as well they are part of the GkBwPavKccc-00117-00028997-00029341 Raven born series by a our Kaler GkBwPavKccc-00118-00029342-00029563 I believe these ones are a are Kayla yes GkBwPavKccc-00119-00029564-00029776 they are Eric Kaler you confused because GkBwPavKccc-00120-00029777-00030205 he also has Alex our Kaler which is the GkBwPavKccc-00121-00030206-00030457 rune binder series which I have not read GkBwPavKccc-00122-00030458-00031158 but I have read the cold queen rising GkBwPavKccc-00123-00031160-00031306 series which I know that's not the name GkBwPavKccc-00124-00031307-00031741 of the series by AR Kaler so it confuses GkBwPavKccc-00125-00031742-00031966 me it's all the same dude but either way GkBwPavKccc-00126-00031967-00032202 I enjoy this writing and these were on GkBwPavKccc-00127-00032204-00032514 sale on book outlet so they are echoes GkBwPavKccc-00128-00032516-00032848 of memory and shades of darkness and GkBwPavKccc-00129-00032849-00033085 this is the first book so this story GkBwPavKccc-00130-00033086-00033418 follows a girl who invoked something GkBwPavKccc-00131-00033419-00033715 dark I don't know if like she awoke some GkBwPavKccc-00132-00033716-00033919 kind of like a demon spirit or what GkBwPavKccc-00133-00033920-00034204 exactly she did but the only person who GkBwPavKccc-00134-00034205-00034384 survived the night was her friend Chris GkBwPavKccc-00135-00034385-00034705 and Chris is hearing voices and he GkBwPavKccc-00136-00034706-00034942 thinks that the voices are telling him GkBwPavKccc-00137-00034943-00035191 to kill her and so he's trying to GkBwPavKccc-00138-00035192-00035458 protect her it cost his life I don't GkBwPavKccc-00139-00035459-00035548 really know but there's something GkBwPavKccc-00140-00035549-00035959 talking about here on the end but when GkBwPavKccc-00141-00035960-00036172 the gods of the underworld are involved GkBwPavKccc-00142-00036173-00036493 not even death is death not even death GkBwPavKccc-00143-00036494-00036769 oh my god guys I'm so hyper right now I GkBwPavKccc-00144-00036770-00036844 am so sorry GkBwPavKccc-00145-00036845-00037090 ah but when the gods of the underworld GkBwPavKccc-00146-00037091-00037327 are involved not even death is an escape GkBwPavKccc-00147-00037328-00037537 it's just the start of another darker GkBwPavKccc-00148-00037538-00037816 journey like it sounded so creepy GkBwPavKccc-00149-00037817-00038005 that I absolutely just had to have it GkBwPavKccc-00150-00038006-00038236 like I know I have a problem guys but GkBwPavKccc-00151-00038237-00038443 like seriously like I love creepy things GkBwPavKccc-00152-00038444-00038653 and this sounds creepy and I'm really GkBwPavKccc-00153-00038654-00039034 excited to get to this by a or Kaler and GkBwPavKccc-00154-00039035-00039166 again I don't know if there's only two GkBwPavKccc-00155-00039167-00039283 books in the series but they really want GkBwPavKccc-00156-00039284-00039436 you that book out I had so maybe there's GkBwPavKccc-00157-00039437-00039577 more than that I don't really know but GkBwPavKccc-00158-00039578-00039670 we're gonna find out because I'm GkBwPavKccc-00159-00039671-00039838 probably gonna read these GkBwPavKccc-00160-00039839-00040270 the next book that I got is three books GkBwPavKccc-00161-00040271-00040567 it is the asylum series by Madeline Roux GkBwPavKccc-00162-00040568-00040699 I don't know if there's more than three GkBwPavKccc-00163-00040700-00040828 books in the series or not but this is GkBwPavKccc-00164-00040829-00041227 asylum sanctum and catacomb and I'm not GkBwPavKccc-00165-00041228-00041356 I'm just not sure what this series is GkBwPavKccc-00166-00041357-00041479 about either but I do know that it GkBwPavKccc-00167-00041480-00041695 follows a boy who is excited to go to a GkBwPavKccc-00168-00041696-00041863 new school and it's like a boarding GkBwPavKccc-00169-00041864-00042019 school but when he gets there he finds GkBwPavKccc-00170-00042020-00042130 out that the place where they have to GkBwPavKccc-00171-00042131-00042301 sleep is actually an old insane asylum GkBwPavKccc-00172-00042302-00042643 and the insane asylum like they start GkBwPavKccc-00173-00042644-00043198 try to so they start finding things GkBwPavKccc-00174-00043199-00043405 inside the school building that like GkBwPavKccc-00175-00043406-00043864 give like look into the past of what was GkBwPavKccc-00176-00043865-00044029 actually there and there's some kind of GkBwPavKccc-00177-00044030-00044269 like dark story of what actually was in GkBwPavKccc-00178-00044270-00044500 the insane asylum before and there are GkBwPavKccc-00179-00044501-00044683 found pictures in here so it's kind of GkBwPavKccc-00180-00044684-00045130 like the miss Peregrine's series by GkBwPavKccc-00181-00045131-00045406 ransom Riggs because it has like old GkBwPavKccc-00182-00045407-00045790 found photographs in it and I I don't GkBwPavKccc-00183-00045791-00045958 really know much else than that but yeah GkBwPavKccc-00184-00045959-00046108 it was on sale and it was on book outlet GkBwPavKccc-00185-00046109-00046255 and about it and yeah here we are GkBwPavKccc-00186-00046256-00046591 me too me too me too naked book warning GkBwPavKccc-00187-00046592-00046891 be do be do be do here it is okay so GkBwPavKccc-00188-00046892-00047356 this is a very dirty book like not that GkBwPavKccc-00189-00047357-00047515 kind of dirty it's just it's got some GkBwPavKccc-00190-00047516-00048028 dirt on the back it is part of the GkBwPavKccc-00191-00048029-00048247 nightmare series by Jason Segel and GkBwPavKccc-00192-00048248-00048448 Kristen Miller and it is the second book GkBwPavKccc-00193-00048449-00048643 the sleepwalker tonic don't have the GkBwPavKccc-00194-00048644-00048907 first book but it is is the second book GkBwPavKccc-00195-00048908-00049108 and it was really super cheap and I GkBwPavKccc-00196-00049109-00049285 thought it was the first book so I GkBwPavKccc-00197-00049286-00049423 bought it and then I was like that's not GkBwPavKccc-00198-00049424-00049570 the first book that's the second book GkBwPavKccc-00199-00049571-00049717 you're a big dummy not to buy the first GkBwPavKccc-00200-00049718-00049972 book like on Amazon and so one day maybe GkBwPavKccc-00201-00049973-00050104 you'll get to it maybe you won't but GkBwPavKccc-00202-00050105-00050440 either way I liked the other world which GkBwPavKccc-00203-00050441-00050581 was also written by the same two authors GkBwPavKccc-00204-00050582-00050779 so I figured I would give this one a GkBwPavKccc-00205-00050780-00051049 shot and it's mid-grade and yes and now GkBwPavKccc-00206-00051050-00051484 I have a giant stack of contemporary the GkBwPavKccc-00207-00051485-00051757 first book is Simon vs. the Homo sapiens GkBwPavKccc-00208-00051758-00051952 agenda' because I think I'm the only GkBwPavKccc-00209-00051953-00052104 person left on the planet that hasn't GkBwPavKccc-00210-00052105-00052360 read this book and I wanted to read it GkBwPavKccc-00211-00052361-00052597 so that's the only reason that you need GkBwPavKccc-00212-00052598-00052904 the next is two books in a series GkBwPavKccc-00213-00052904-00053246 it is 13 little blue envelopes and the GkBwPavKccc-00214-00053247-00053491 last little blue envelope these are by GkBwPavKccc-00215-00053492-00053762 Maureen Johnson holy crap I think I GkBwPavKccc-00216-00053763-00053909 bought a lot of Maureen Johnson books GkBwPavKccc-00217-00053910-00054580 lately anyway this series is about a GkBwPavKccc-00218-00054582-00055092 girl who's a good mugger GkBwPavKccc-00219-00055094-00055381 it's late I'm speaking foreign language GkBwPavKccc-00220-00055382-00055649 it's over he'll this series follows a GkBwPavKccc-00221-00055650-00055979 girl who gets a letter from her aunt and GkBwPavKccc-00222-00055979-00056300 some dollar bills and she is told to GkBwPavKccc-00223-00056301-00056609 follow the letters and they send her on GkBwPavKccc-00224-00056610-00056944 a backpacking tour across Europe and I GkBwPavKccc-00225-00056945-00057197 want to go there and it's kind of GkBwPavKccc-00226-00057198-00057428 unbelievable I believe from what I've GkBwPavKccc-00227-00057429-00057611 read because like who's you know like GkBwPavKccc-00228-00057612-00057754 what seventeen year olds parents let GkBwPavKccc-00229-00057755-00057967 them just like hop a plane and fly to GkBwPavKccc-00230-00057969-00058138 Europe and backpack by themselves like GkBwPavKccc-00231-00058139-00058300 no one's letting your seventeen-year-old GkBwPavKccc-00232-00058301-00058606 do that so there's that but basically GkBwPavKccc-00233-00058607-00058796 it's a story about finding herself while GkBwPavKccc-00234-00058797-00058966 also finding out more about her aunt who GkBwPavKccc-00235-00058967-00059179 has passed away the next two books that GkBwPavKccc-00236-00059180-00059537 I got are Lily Anderson books they're GkBwPavKccc-00237-00059538-00059680 not part of a series but I figured I'd GkBwPavKccc-00238-00059682-00059810 show them both to you the same time cuz GkBwPavKccc-00239-00059811-00060197 it's Lily Anderson the first one is not GkBwPavKccc-00240-00060198-00060531 now not ever GkBwPavKccc-00241-00060532-00060919 this one is about a girl who chooses to GkBwPavKccc-00242-00060920-00061175 like defy what all of her parents and GkBwPavKccc-00243-00061176-00061340 stepparents want her to do and it's said GkBwPavKccc-00244-00061341-00061694 to run away to a camp for the summer and GkBwPavKccc-00245-00061695-00062017 it is like an intellectual camp and she GkBwPavKccc-00246-00062019-00062176 wants to get a new store and change her GkBwPavKccc-00247-00062177-00062390 name and kind of make up this backstory GkBwPavKccc-00248-00062391-00062566 for herself but when she gets there she GkBwPavKccc-00249-00062567-00062704 finds out that her cousin who she's GkBwPavKccc-00250-00062705-00062857 never really liked was also already GkBwPavKccc-00251-00062858-00063119 there and so she has to kind of figure GkBwPavKccc-00252-00063120-00063388 out how to maneuver the new life that GkBwPavKccc-00253-00063389-00063653 she wants for herself and not make her GkBwPavKccc-00254-00063654-00063955 cousin angry so that they ruin her real GkBwPavKccc-00255-00063957-00064247 story and I don't really know what else GkBwPavKccc-00256-00064248-00064346 it's about but I know it's about that GkBwPavKccc-00257-00064347-00064650 and I really enjoyed Lily Anderson's GkBwPavKccc-00258-00064651-00064904 dead girl gang and so I bought more Lily GkBwPavKccc-00259-00064904-00065135 Anderson books the next one is the only GkBwPavKccc-00260-00065136-00065549 thing worse than me is you yep that's GkBwPavKccc-00261-00065550-00065675 what it's about GkBwPavKccc-00262-00065676-00066107 this book is about a girl who I believe GkBwPavKccc-00263-00066108-00066368 it says something about she's got two GkBwPavKccc-00264-00066369-00066578 goals for this year and one is to GkBwPavKccc-00265-00066579-00066776 finally save up enough money to buy a GkBwPavKccc-00266-00066777-00066959 doctor who you figurine and the other GkBwPavKccc-00267-00066960-00067145 thing is to become third in her class GkBwPavKccc-00268-00067146-00067277 and to kick the person who's currently GkBwPavKccc-00269-00067278-00067469 in third down to fourth and kick his GkBwPavKccc-00270-00067470-00067667 foot because they have like the sibling GkBwPavKccc-00271-00067668-00067817 the sibling rivalry they're not siblings GkBwPavKccc-00272-00067818-00067937 that would be really weird cuz I'm GkBwPavKccc-00273-00067938-00068090 pretty sure their love interests they GkBwPavKccc-00274-00068091-00068213 have this rivalry that's been going on GkBwPavKccc-00275-00068214-00068309 for a really long time GkBwPavKccc-00276-00068310-00068945 and I'm like so Jerry tonight okay GkBwPavKccc-00277-00068946-00069263 so they have this rivalry they had going GkBwPavKccc-00278-00069264-00069613 on for a really long time and they GkBwPavKccc-00279-00069614-00069842 they're her best friends starts dating GkBwPavKccc-00280-00069843-00069986 his best friend so they have to like GkBwPavKccc-00281-00069987-00070220 they're forced together and they have to GkBwPavKccc-00282-00070221-00070415 be kind to one another and then her best GkBwPavKccc-00283-00070416-00070634 friend is expelled from the school for a GkBwPavKccc-00284-00070635-00070841 cheating scandal and she doesn't think GkBwPavKccc-00285-00070842-00070961 her best friend was cheating and there's GkBwPavKccc-00286-00070962-00071219 like this big like who did who what GkBwPavKccc-00287-00071220-00071435 where why and there's like a mystery GkBwPavKccc-00288-00071436-00071546 involved and I don't really know what GkBwPavKccc-00289-00071547-00071972 else is it but Willie Anderson the next GkBwPavKccc-00290-00071973-00072077 three books that I bought her all GkBwPavKccc-00291-00072078-00072350 katiewest I'm not even gonna bother GkBwPavKccc-00292-00072351-00072515 telling you what they're about I just GkBwPavKccc-00293-00072516-00072701 know that their love stories this one's GkBwPavKccc-00294-00072702-00073061 on the fence this one's the fill-in GkBwPavKccc-00295-00073062-00073235 boyfriend I bet it's got something to do GkBwPavKccc-00296-00073236-00073568 with a filling boyfriend and this one's GkBwPavKccc-00297-00073569-00073868 by your side and I have just been like GkBwPavKccc-00298-00073869-00074063 devouring contemporary lately and I've GkBwPavKccc-00299-00074064-00074203 heard that Kasey West writes really good GkBwPavKccc-00300-00074204-00074501 contemporary stories so I got these GkBwPavKccc-00301-00074502-00074753 three on book outlet for sale next is my GkBwPavKccc-00302-00074754-00074918 heart and other black holes and I mainly GkBwPavKccc-00303-00074919-00075275 purchased this for the title I have GkBwPavKccc-00304-00075276-00075422 always felt like my heart is a black GkBwPavKccc-00305-00075423-00075650 hole and that is why I mainly wear the GkBwPavKccc-00306-00075651-00075818 color black because it's a color that GkBwPavKccc-00307-00075819-00076064 matches my soul but then this story GkBwPavKccc-00308-00076065-00076256 really dragged me down once I read what GkBwPavKccc-00309-00076257-00076363 it was about GkBwPavKccc-00310-00076364-00076589 this story is about a girl who is GkBwPavKccc-00311-00076590-00076835 contemplating can committing suicide I GkBwPavKccc-00312-00076836-00076970 was a person who suffers from depression GkBwPavKccc-00313-00076971-00077144 I probably should read this book but I'm GkBwPavKccc-00314-00077145-00077402 gonna do it anyway I'm medicated it's GkBwPavKccc-00315-00077403-00077464 fine GkBwPavKccc-00316-00077465-00077816 so this girl she thinks they're not GkBwPavKccc-00317-00077817-00078035 wanting to commit suicide and she's not GkBwPavKccc-00318-00078036-00078167 really sure if she wants to go through GkBwPavKccc-00319-00078168-00078338 with it alone she's a lot of died alone GkBwPavKccc-00320-00078339-00078548 she finds this website where you can GkBwPavKccc-00321-00078549-00078761 find another person to create a suicide GkBwPavKccc-00322-00078762-00078898 pact with and GkBwPavKccc-00323-00078899-00079168 so she finds this guy and they kind of GkBwPavKccc-00324-00079169-00079312 start to fill in the holes of each GkBwPavKccc-00325-00079313-00079803 other's lives that they were missing and GkBwPavKccc-00326-00079804-00080041 which doesn't make sense the holes they GkBwPavKccc-00327-00080042-00080242 were missing the places they were but GkBwPavKccc-00328-00080243-00080350 you know what I'm trying to say don't GkBwPavKccc-00329-00080351-00080815 you okay so as she gets closer to him GkBwPavKccc-00330-00080816-00081079 and as the suicide pact it's closer and GkBwPavKccc-00331-00081080-00081369 it becomes more of a real thing GkBwPavKccc-00332-00081370-00081613 she thinks that maybe she doesn't want GkBwPavKccc-00333-00081614-00081856 to commit suicide and I think probably GkBwPavKccc-00334-00081857-00082021 it's because like she's falling for this GkBwPavKccc-00335-00082022-00082324 guy and so she has to decide whether she GkBwPavKccc-00336-00082325-00082459 wants to go through with the suicide GkBwPavKccc-00337-00082460-00082681 pact or try to convince him to back out GkBwPavKccc-00338-00082682-00083026 of it so I don't know how this is gonna GkBwPavKccc-00339-00083027-00083200 go and I don't know if I should read GkBwPavKccc-00340-00083201-00083404 this but I'm going to read it anyway GkBwPavKccc-00341-00083405-00083554 I'll probably read some reviews first GkBwPavKccc-00342-00083555-00084057 and then I'll read it probably should GkBwPavKccc-00343-00084058-00084219 read some reviews before I just jump GkBwPavKccc-00344-00084220-00084532 into it but I'm I I do plan on reading GkBwPavKccc-00345-00084533-00085099 it the next book that I got is the know GkBwPavKccc-00346-00085100-00085318 where girls by Amy read this book GkBwPavKccc-00347-00085319-00085591 follows three girls one of them is a new GkBwPavKccc-00348-00085592-00085825 girl in town and she finds out that the GkBwPavKccc-00349-00085826-00086062 house that she lives in was previously GkBwPavKccc-00350-00086063-00086350 lived in by a girl in their town who GkBwPavKccc-00351-00086351-00086584 accused three popular boys of gang GkBwPavKccc-00352-00086585-00086812 raping her and those three boys GkBwPavKccc-00353-00086813-00087019 basically made her life a living hell so GkBwPavKccc-00354-00087020-00087199 much to the point that she was chased GkBwPavKccc-00355-00087200-00087357 out of her own town and her parents GkBwPavKccc-00356-00087358-00087861 packed up and moved away so this girl GkBwPavKccc-00357-00087862-00088182 she finds two other girls with I don't GkBwPavKccc-00358-00088183-00088546 know similar issues I suppose and the GkBwPavKccc-00359-00088547-00088701 three of them create the know where GkBwPavKccc-00360-00088702-00088936 girls and the know where girls becomes GkBwPavKccc-00361-00088937-00089169 this anonymous group of girls who choose GkBwPavKccc-00362-00089170-00089500 to try to find a way to make these boys GkBwPavKccc-00363-00089501-00089688 pay for what they did and to make all of GkBwPavKccc-00364-00089689-00089896 the boys pay for what they're doing for GkBwPavKccc-00365-00089897-00090037 the way that they treat the women in GkBwPavKccc-00366-00090038-00090334 their high school and essentially the GkBwPavKccc-00367-00090335-00090535 pact of the nowhere girls is that none GkBwPavKccc-00368-00090536-00090697 of them are having sex with the male's GkBwPavKccc-00369-00090698-00091159 of the school until they fess up to the GkBwPavKccc-00370-00091160-00091459 bullcrap that they are doing sounds like GkBwPavKccc-00371-00091460-00091909 a really girl power kick-ass and very of GkBwPavKccc-00372-00091910-00092101 the times type GkBwPavKccc-00373-00092102-00092362 story this little make you laugh I'm GkBwPavKccc-00374-00092363-00092512 gonna book by man this year what do I do GkBwPavKccc-00375-00092513-00092704 I joined the Book of the Month Club so GkBwPavKccc-00376-00092705-00092962 the first book I got is the last time I GkBwPavKccc-00377-00092963-00093288 lied by ryley something or another GkBwPavKccc-00378-00093289-00093664 Riley Sager this book is about a girl GkBwPavKccc-00379-00093665-00094069 who one summer she goes to a summer camp GkBwPavKccc-00380-00094070-00094339 and she's like the only new girl in the GkBwPavKccc-00381-00094340-00094507 cabin the other three or four girls are GkBwPavKccc-00382-00094508-00094708 friends and she's younger than they are GkBwPavKccc-00383-00094709-00095032 and so the last night that she ever sees GkBwPavKccc-00384-00095033-00095272 these other girls is as they're sneaking GkBwPavKccc-00385-00095273-00095617 out the door into the woods and they are GkBwPavKccc-00386-00095618-00095827 basically found murdered and were never GkBwPavKccc-00387-00095828-00096055 found again I don't remember which they GkBwPavKccc-00388-00096056-00096430 they're dead either way so this girl she GkBwPavKccc-00389-00096431-00096639 moves on with her life she grows up she GkBwPavKccc-00390-00096640-00096994 goes to college she gets a job doing GkBwPavKccc-00391-00096995-00097165 something I don't remember what it is GkBwPavKccc-00392-00097166-00097870 and basically she is asked by the oh the GkBwPavKccc-00393-00097871-00098059 person who owns the camp to come back to GkBwPavKccc-00394-00098060-00098398 the camp and while she's there she kind GkBwPavKccc-00395-00098399-00098560 of starts to discover things about the GkBwPavKccc-00396-00098561-00098758 camp that are just really creepy and GkBwPavKccc-00397-00098759-00099016 dark and maybe one day she'll figure out GkBwPavKccc-00398-00099017-00099136 what actually happened to the girls that GkBwPavKccc-00399-00099137-00099415 went missing from her cabin it's not a GkBwPavKccc-00400-00099416-00099631 creepy semanas chain as I said earlier GkBwPavKccc-00401-00099632-00099913 I'm enjoying the creepy books so creepy GkBwPavKccc-00402-00099914-00100402 book that was all 23 books guys yeah so GkBwPavKccc-00403-00100403-00100675 um obviously I am super hyper right now GkBwPavKccc-00404-00100676-00100867 I apologize for that if you made it this GkBwPavKccc-00405-00100868-00101140 far in the video kudos to you because I GkBwPavKccc-00406-00101141-00101533 probably would have left right now have GkBwPavKccc-00407-00101534-00101710 you read any of these books are you GkBwPavKccc-00408-00101711-00101839 interested in any of these books you or GkBwPavKccc-00409-00101840-00101962 know more about them because I can read GkBwPavKccc-00410-00101963-00102091 the flap copy and let you know what it's GkBwPavKccc-00411-00102092-00102393 actually about instead of just guessing GkBwPavKccc-00412-00102394-00102688 that is all I have for today I post GkBwPavKccc-00413-00102689-00102894 reading writing and book related videos GkBwPavKccc-00414-00102895-00103174 on Tuesdays and Fridays so until then I GkBwPavKccc-00415-00103175-00103718 will see you guys next time bye GkBwPavKccc-00416-00103719-00104896 [Music] GkBwPavKccc-00417-00104897-00105232 [Music] GkBwPavKccc-00418-00105233-00105245 you GkBwPavKccc-00419-00105246-00105555 [Music] H497AnVbakE-00000-00000095-00000317 environmental issues in sri lanka H497AnVbakE-00001-00000318-00000648 include large-scale logging of forests H497AnVbakE-00002-00000649-00000942 and degradation of mangroves coral reefs H497AnVbakE-00003-00000943-00001262 and soil air pollution and water H497AnVbakE-00004-00001263-00001553 pollution are challenges for sri lanka H497AnVbakE-00005-00001554-00001928 since both cause negative health impacts H497AnVbakE-00006-00001929-00002229 insufficient waste management especially H497AnVbakE-00007-00002230-00002514 in rural areas leads to environmental H497AnVbakE-00008-00002515-00002931 pollution sri lanka is also vulnerable H497AnVbakE-00009-00002932-00003159 to climate change impacts such as H497AnVbakE-00010-00003160-00003404 extreme weather events and sea level H497AnVbakE-00011-00003406-00003714 rise industrialization and population H497AnVbakE-00012-00003715-00003940 growth are major drivers of these H497AnVbakE-00013-00003942-00004296 environmental issues a lack of public H497AnVbakE-00014-00004297-00004562 awareness and governmental guidelines H497AnVbakE-00015-00004563-00005250 intensified the problems H497AnVbakE-00016-00005251-00005820 topic background' H497AnVbakE-00017-00005821-00006081 these environmental problems have H497AnVbakE-00018-00006082-00006279 deteriorated because of a high H497AnVbakE-00019-00006280-00006537 population growth and the increasing H497AnVbakE-00020-00006538-00006839 industrialization in sri lanka since the H497AnVbakE-00021-00006840-00007281 1980s the industrialization led to an H497AnVbakE-00022-00007283-00007560 increase in automobile use and energy H497AnVbakE-00023-00007561-00007942 consumption the energy demand used to be H497AnVbakE-00024-00007943-00008280 almost covert by hydropower plants in H497AnVbakE-00025-00008281-00008683 1985 ninety percent the increased H497AnVbakE-00026-00008684-00008938 demands led to the construction of oil H497AnVbakE-00027-00008939-00009213 and coal-fired thermal power plants H497AnVbakE-00028-00009214-00009471 which emit more greenhouse gases than H497AnVbakE-00029-00009472-00009714 renewable energy technologies like H497AnVbakE-00030-00009715-00009966 hydropower plants a lack of public H497AnVbakE-00031-00009967-00010195 awareness and participation in H497AnVbakE-00032-00010196-00010444 government policies and environmental H497AnVbakE-00033-00010445-00010719 standards has amplified the problems H497AnVbakE-00034-00010720-00011046 however Sri Lanka's government has H497AnVbakE-00035-00011047-00011319 undertaken several efforts to encounter H497AnVbakE-00036-00011320-00012019 environmental issues H497AnVbakE-00037-00012020-00013082 topic major environmental issues H497AnVbakE-00038-00013083-00013671 topic deforestation H497AnVbakE-00039-00013672-00013944 sri lanka's central and southern parts H497AnVbakE-00040-00013944-00014271 are home to montane forests sub montane H497AnVbakE-00041-00014272-00014630 forests and two lowland rainforests in H497AnVbakE-00042-00014631-00014943 contrast sparse forests mangroves H497AnVbakE-00043-00014944-00015285 riverine dry forests and monsoon forests H497AnVbakE-00044-00015286-00015675 are located in the dry zone these forest H497AnVbakE-00045-00015676-00015927 covers in sri lanka have been greatly H497AnVbakE-00046-00015928-00016160 reduced by legal as well as illegal H497AnVbakE-00047-00016161-00016428 forest clearing H497AnVbakE-00048-00016429-00016736 due to deforestation in sri lanka the H497AnVbakE-00049-00016737-00017042 size of land covered by natural forests H497AnVbakE-00050-00017043-00017447 decreased from 80 percent in 1820 to 43 H497AnVbakE-00051-00017448-00017906 percent in 1948 this was partly caused H497AnVbakE-00052-00017907-00018366 by British colonialism from 1801 to 1948 H497AnVbakE-00053-00018367-00018639 which increased the amount of tea coffee H497AnVbakE-00054-00018640-00018996 and rubber plantations the natural H497AnVbakE-00055-00018997-00019302 forest cover further decreased to 23 H497AnVbakE-00056-00019303-00019839 percent in 2000 in 2010 29 percent of H497AnVbakE-00057-00019840-00020133 Sri Lanka's area was covered by forests H497AnVbakE-00058-00020134-00020489 this number includes forest plantations H497AnVbakE-00059-00020490-00020822 drivers of recent forest degradation are H497AnVbakE-00060-00020823-00021047 an increase in population road H497AnVbakE-00061-00021048-00021269 construction timber production H497AnVbakE-00062-00021270-00021522 agricultural development and forest H497AnVbakE-00063-00021523-00021869 cleaning by private businessmen even H497AnVbakE-00064-00021870-00022116 though there are conservation areas the H497AnVbakE-00065-00022117-00022458 management as partly insufficient the H497AnVbakE-00066-00022459-00022761 extensive deforestation leads to a rise H497AnVbakE-00067-00022762-00023083 of the average surface temperature H497AnVbakE-00068-00023084-00023408 deforestation is also responsible for an H497AnVbakE-00069-00023409-00023622 increase in greenhouse gas emissions H497AnVbakE-00070-00023623-00024117 because trees remove co2 from the air by H497AnVbakE-00071-00024118-00024474 clear cutting areas the co2 returns to H497AnVbakE-00072-00024475-00024699 the air and thereby increases the H497AnVbakE-00073-00024700-00024972 atmospheric carbon concentration the H497AnVbakE-00074-00024973-00025233 government of Sri Lanka has adopted the H497AnVbakE-00075-00025234-00025464 target to increase the size of land H497AnVbakE-00076-00025465-00025844 covered by forests to 32 percent by 2030 H497AnVbakE-00077-00025845-00026243 in order to achieve this the government H497AnVbakE-00078-00026244-00026543 intends to reforest degraded forests to H497AnVbakE-00079-00026544-00026799 increase urban forests and to improve H497AnVbakE-00080-00026800-00027486 the forest plantations H497AnVbakE-00081-00027487-00028120 topic mangrove degradation H497AnVbakE-00082-00028122-00028475 sri lanka's mangrove forests small trees H497AnVbakE-00083-00028476-00028706 that grow in coastal water have been H497AnVbakE-00084-00028707-00029302 decreased by 70% since 1915 the size of H497AnVbakE-00085-00029304-00029570 mangrove ecosystems as being reduced H497AnVbakE-00086-00029570-00029768 because of the implementation of H497AnVbakE-00087-00029769-00030050 agriculture and aquaculture systems like H497AnVbakE-00088-00030051-00030422 fisheries shrimp aquaculture projects H497AnVbakE-00089-00030423-00030677 are one of the biggest threats the H497AnVbakE-00090-00030677-00030902 shrimp business is growing very fast H497AnVbakE-00091-00030902-00031233 because of high demand and high profits H497AnVbakE-00092-00031235-00031535 one of the negative impacts of shrimp H497AnVbakE-00093-00031536-00031763 farms as that mangroves are being H497AnVbakE-00094-00031764-00031979 destroyed where the farms are built H497AnVbakE-00095-00031980-00032279 mangroves however are very important for H497AnVbakE-00096-00032280-00032548 people living close to the coast the H497AnVbakE-00097-00032549-00032849 reason for this is that mangroves offer H497AnVbakE-00098-00032850-00033080 products that can be used for cooking H497AnVbakE-00099-00033081-00033377 building houses and fodder as well as H497AnVbakE-00100-00033378-00033722 fish and other food items they also H497AnVbakE-00101-00033723-00033986 offer protection against floods and H497AnVbakE-00102-00033987-00034061 pollutants H497AnVbakE-00103-00034062-00034361 moreover mangroves are important for H497AnVbakE-00104-00034362-00034628 other ecosystems and host animals like H497AnVbakE-00105-00034629-00034976 fish crab and shrimp in 2015 the H497AnVbakE-00106-00034977-00035192 government of Sri Lanka reached an H497AnVbakE-00107-00035193-00035392 agreement with private companies H497AnVbakE-00108-00035393-00035624 nongovernmental organizations H497AnVbakE-00109-00035625-00035870 researchers and members of affected H497AnVbakE-00110-00035871-00036218 communities this agreement protects all H497AnVbakE-00111-00036219-00036535 mangrove forests in sri lanka by law H497AnVbakE-00112-00036536-00036860 moreover they agreed to launch mangrove H497AnVbakE-00113-00036861-00037136 reforestation activities and to create H497AnVbakE-00114-00037137-00037946 alternative sources of income for locals H497AnVbakE-00115-00037947-00038594 topic coral-reef destruction H497AnVbakE-00116-00038595-00038849 coral reefs are threatened by human H497AnVbakE-00117-00038850-00039101 activities such as destructive fishing H497AnVbakE-00118-00039102-00039362 methods coral mining pollution and H497AnVbakE-00119-00039363-00039688 unsustainable management practices H497AnVbakE-00120-00039689-00039962 extensive aquaculture as the biggest H497AnVbakE-00121-00039963-00040292 threat to coral reefs shrimp farms are H497AnVbakE-00122-00040293-00040529 especially destructive to coral reefs H497AnVbakE-00123-00040530-00040805 coral reefs are very important for the H497AnVbakE-00124-00040806-00041150 coastal population they provide food H497AnVbakE-00125-00041151-00041399 protect the coast and our popular H497AnVbakE-00126-00041400-00041651 destination for tourists and therefore H497AnVbakE-00127-00041652-00041990 are important for people's income most H497AnVbakE-00128-00041991-00042269 Sri Lankans live along the coast and the H497AnVbakE-00129-00042270-00042488 population is growing which will have H497AnVbakE-00130-00042489-00042737 greater negative consequences for the H497AnVbakE-00131-00042738-00043339 coral reefs H497AnVbakE-00132-00043340-00043962 topic soil degradation H497AnVbakE-00133-00043963-00044262 parts of the dry zone as well as the wet H497AnVbakE-00134-00044263-00044594 zone are damaged by soil degradation H497AnVbakE-00135-00044595-00045030 soil erosion in sri lanka as 14 to 30 H497AnVbakE-00136-00045031-00045234 three times bigger than it would be H497AnVbakE-00137-00045235-00045606 without human influence it has negative H497AnVbakE-00138-00045607-00045894 impacts on agriculture as well as on H497AnVbakE-00139-00045895-00046185 people's livelihood soil degradation is H497AnVbakE-00140-00046186-00046404 mainly caused by unsustainable H497AnVbakE-00141-00046405-00046683 agricultural practices high intensity H497AnVbakE-00142-00046684-00046935 rainfall and indirectly caused by H497AnVbakE-00143-00046936-00047178 population growth which results in H497AnVbakE-00144-00047179-00047544 increased consumption tree plantations H497AnVbakE-00145-00047545-00047805 such as tea and rubber plantation caused H497AnVbakE-00146-00047806-00048192 low rates of soil erosion higher rates H497AnVbakE-00147-00048193-00048447 of soil erosion are caused by crops H497AnVbakE-00148-00048448-00048660 which are harvested annually like H497AnVbakE-00149-00048661-00049004 potatoes most vegetables and tobacco H497AnVbakE-00150-00049005-00049356 soil degradation in the dry zone leads H497AnVbakE-00151-00049357-00049662 to desert if ocation the loss of soil H497AnVbakE-00152-00049663-00049959 also as a big problem near watersheds H497AnVbakE-00153-00049960-00050256 because a lot of hydropower plants are H497AnVbakE-00154-00050257-00050942 built in those watersheds H497AnVbakE-00155-00050943-00051510 topic air pollution H497AnVbakE-00156-00051511-00051791 air pollution as a problem in Sri H497AnVbakE-00157-00051792-00052038 Lanka's cities and it is mostly caused H497AnVbakE-00158-00052039-00052434 by vehicles the number of Motor Vehicles H497AnVbakE-00159-00052435-00052754 almost tripled during the 1990s which H497AnVbakE-00160-00052755-00053090 also led to an increase in traffic jams H497AnVbakE-00161-00053091-00053421 the use of old vehicles and poor quality H497AnVbakE-00162-00053422-00053784 gas intensify negative consequences H497AnVbakE-00163-00053785-00054342 Oh pee pee pee pee pee H497AnVbakE-00164-00054344-00054919 P P major air pollutant in sri lanka are H497AnVbakE-00165-00054920-00055197 oxides of carbon oxides of nitrogen H497AnVbakE-00166-00055198-00055570 oxides of sulfur particulates inorganic H497AnVbakE-00167-00055571-00055873 compounds hydrocarbons and the secondary H497AnVbakE-00168-00055874-00056212 pollutant photochemical smog these H497AnVbakE-00169-00056213-00056442 pollutants have negative impact on H497AnVbakE-00170-00056444-00056629 people's health as they can cause H497AnVbakE-00171-00056629-00056947 respiratory illnesses asthma or even H497AnVbakE-00172-00056948-00057316 death dust Falls are also an issue in H497AnVbakE-00173-00057316-00057577 areas with a high traffic density H497AnVbakE-00174-00057578-00057816 besides outdoor pollution indoor H497AnVbakE-00175-00057817-00058147 pollution also as a concern the H497AnVbakE-00176-00058148-00058402 pollutants listed above have even worse H497AnVbakE-00177-00058403-00058666 impacts inside Motor Vehicles and H497AnVbakE-00178-00058666-00059050 buildings air pollution inside buildings H497AnVbakE-00179-00059051-00059326 as a severe problem when firewood is H497AnVbakE-00180-00059327-00059764 used for cooking in 2000 80 percent of H497AnVbakE-00181-00059765-00059971 households burned firewood for cooking H497AnVbakE-00182-00059972-00060295 which sets free many fine particles that H497AnVbakE-00183-00060296-00060541 can cause respiratory illnesses and H497AnVbakE-00184-00060541-00061132 cancer H497AnVbakE-00185-00061133-00061704 topic water pollution H497AnVbakE-00186-00061705-00061990 domestic activities industry and H497AnVbakE-00187-00061991-00062284 agriculture cause water pollution in Sri H497AnVbakE-00188-00062285-00062560 Lanka rivers and lakes are most affected H497AnVbakE-00189-00062561-00062904 by pollutants pollutants that end up in H497AnVbakE-00190-00062905-00063163 lakes are sewage vegetable waste and H497AnVbakE-00191-00063164-00063502 waste from hospitals the pollution of H497AnVbakE-00192-00063503-00063796 lakes in Sri Lanka leads to algal blooms H497AnVbakE-00193-00063797-00064120 which reduces the oxygen content and has H497AnVbakE-00194-00064121-00064339 negative consequences on fish H497AnVbakE-00195-00064340-00064678 populations the Kolani river is H497AnVbakE-00196-00064679-00064912 especially polluted because it flows H497AnVbakE-00197-00064913-00065278 through industrial areas industrial H497AnVbakE-00198-00065279-00065503 waste has often discharged into the H497AnVbakE-00199-00065504-00065754 river treated or untreated H497AnVbakE-00200-00065755-00066088 moreover dumps that are located close to H497AnVbakE-00201-00066089-00066346 rivers have negative influences on the H497AnVbakE-00202-00066347-00066655 water quality large amounts of H497AnVbakE-00203-00066656-00066919 pesticides used in the agricultural H497AnVbakE-00204-00066920-00067213 sector also get into the water of rivers H497AnVbakE-00205-00067214-00067546 and lakes groundwater and surface water H497AnVbakE-00206-00067547-00067819 are also polluted by the heavy use of H497AnVbakE-00207-00067820-00068125 fertilizer and pesticides and by storm H497AnVbakE-00208-00068126-00068503 runoff s-- coastal and marine waters are H497AnVbakE-00209-00068504-00068757 threatened by pesticides fertilizer H497AnVbakE-00210-00068758-00069055 industrial waste and run offs from waste H497AnVbakE-00211-00069056-00069423 dumps rivers that flow out into the sea H497AnVbakE-00212-00069424-00069760 deteriorate the sea water oil spills H497AnVbakE-00213-00069761-00070021 chemicals and waste also decrease the H497AnVbakE-00214-00070022-00070381 quality of Sri Lanka's sea water in 2000 H497AnVbakE-00215-00070382-00070726 only 25 percent of the households in Sri H497AnVbakE-00216-00070727-00071001 Lanka got their water through pipes even H497AnVbakE-00217-00071002-00071272 the water that does come through the H497AnVbakE-00218-00071273-00071491 pipe from local suppliers as not H497AnVbakE-00219-00071492-00071869 monitored efficiently this is why a part H497AnVbakE-00220-00071870-00072112 of the population does not get clean H497AnVbakE-00221-00072113-00072422 drinking water H497AnVbakE-00222-00072423-00072739 you H497AnVbakE-00223-00072740-00073321 topic waste management H497AnVbakE-00224-00073322-00073684 sri lanka faces managerial problems in H497AnVbakE-00225-00073685-00073945 waste collection and waste disposal a H497AnVbakE-00226-00073946-00074344 study from 2005 revealed that only 24% H497AnVbakE-00227-00074345-00074644 of the household had waste management H497AnVbakE-00228-00074645-00074872 and the percentage of access to waste H497AnVbakE-00229-00074873-00075106 collection as even smaller in rural H497AnVbakE-00230-00075107-00075577 areas 2% increased waste generation as H497AnVbakE-00231-00075578-00075837 caused by high population growth H497AnVbakE-00232-00075838-00076090 industrialization urbanization and H497AnVbakE-00233-00076091-00076336 increased consumption H497AnVbakE-00234-00076337-00076607 provinces and local authorities are H497AnVbakE-00235-00076608-00076873 overstrained by these large amounts H497AnVbakE-00236-00076874-00077135 collected waste has often brought to H497AnVbakE-00237-00077136-00077380 open dumps and has not treated H497AnVbakE-00238-00077381-00077698 moreover some dumps are located in H497AnVbakE-00239-00077699-00077960 environmentally sensitive locations or H497AnVbakE-00240-00077961-00078281 close to residential areas these H497AnVbakE-00241-00078282-00078510 problems are caused by a lack of H497AnVbakE-00242-00078511-00078743 governmental regulations and public H497AnVbakE-00243-00078744-00079001 commitment but also a lack of technical H497AnVbakE-00244-00079002-00079256 knowledge low financial resources and H497AnVbakE-00245-00079257-00079515 too little suitable space for waste H497AnVbakE-00246-00079516-00079907 disposal sites the effects of poor waste H497AnVbakE-00247-00079908-00080159 management as waste laying in the street H497AnVbakE-00248-00080160-00080549 waterways and swamps these results H497AnVbakE-00249-00080550-00080796 influence the aesthetic of the landscape H497AnVbakE-00250-00080797-00081084 decrease the biodiversity cause health H497AnVbakE-00251-00081085-00081341 problems and have negative impacts on H497AnVbakE-00252-00081342-00081719 Sri Lanka's tourist industry the study H497AnVbakE-00253-00081720-00081950 shows that in areas without waste H497AnVbakE-00254-00081951-00082232 collection the majority of people dump H497AnVbakE-00255-00082233-00082442 their waste that should be going to the H497AnVbakE-00256-00082443-00082803 landfill in their backyard plastics and H497AnVbakE-00257-00082804-00083093 paper are often burned or also disposed H497AnVbakE-00258-00083094-00083269 in the back yard H497AnVbakE-00259-00083270-00083681 moreover green waste as burned by 80% of H497AnVbakE-00260-00083682-00083910 the household in the southern provinces H497AnVbakE-00261-00083911-00084122 that do not have access to waste H497AnVbakE-00262-00084123-00084374 collection Sri Lanka's government aims H497AnVbakE-00263-00084375-00084581 to address these problems by H497AnVbakE-00264-00084582-00084834 implementing waste sorting systems in H497AnVbakE-00265-00084835-00085112 households improved waste collection by H497AnVbakE-00266-00085113-00085406 municipalities and cities composting H497AnVbakE-00267-00085407-00085649 systems and systematic treatment of H497AnVbakE-00268-00085650-00085886 hazardous waste from the industry and H497AnVbakE-00269-00085887-00086446 Clinics H497AnVbakE-00270-00086447-00087139 topic climate change vulnerability H497AnVbakE-00271-00087140-00087484 sri lanka's geographic location makes it H497AnVbakE-00272-00087485-00087782 vulnerable for climate change impacts H497AnVbakE-00273-00087783-00088057 expected impacts are an increase in H497AnVbakE-00274-00088058-00088273 temperature more frequent extreme H497AnVbakE-00275-00088274-00088513 weather events like floods and cyclones H497AnVbakE-00276-00088514-00088975 as well as sea level rise sea level rise H497AnVbakE-00277-00088976-00089272 as especially critical for Sri Lanka's H497AnVbakE-00278-00089273-00089601 coastal regions these impacts negatively H497AnVbakE-00279-00089602-00089959 influence agriculture fisheries tourism H497AnVbakE-00280-00089960-00090243 people's livelihood and the environment H497AnVbakE-00281-00090244-00090595 the impacts on agriculture and fisheries H497AnVbakE-00282-00090596-00090898 will in turn influence food security and H497AnVbakE-00283-00090899-00091257 exports of crops and fishes negative H497AnVbakE-00284-00091258-00091551 consequences for the environment include H497AnVbakE-00285-00091552-00091810 biodiversity loss ecosystem degradation H497AnVbakE-00286-00091811-00092179 and water cycle disturbances Sri Lanka H497AnVbakE-00287-00092180-00092365 has set goals in their intended H497AnVbakE-00288-00092366-00092704 nationally determined contributions IND H497AnVbakE-00289-00092705-00092953 see how to implement climate change H497AnVbakE-00290-00092954-00093256 mitigation and adaptation strategies in H497AnVbakE-00291-00093257-00093507 order to prevent severe climate change H497AnVbakE-00292-00093508-00093807 impacts the government has already H497AnVbakE-00293-00093808-00094051 implemented regulations and guidelines H497AnVbakE-00294-00094052-00094357 like the national climate change policy H497AnVbakE-00295-00094358-00094588 of Sri Lanka the climate change H497AnVbakE-00296-00094589-00094822 vulnerability profiles and the H497AnVbakE-00297-00094823-00095082 technology action plans for climate H497AnVbakE-00298-00095083-00095475 change adaption and mitigation in 2014 H497AnVbakE-00299-00095476-00095773 moreover steps have been taking to H497AnVbakE-00300-00095774-00095994 reduce possible impacts of climate H497AnVbakE-00301-00095995-00096421 change in Sri Lanka these steps include H497AnVbakE-00302-00096422-00096651 but are not limited to building a more H497AnVbakE-00303-00096652-00096904 resilient infrastructure actions to H497AnVbakE-00304-00096905-00097126 ensure human health and food security H497AnVbakE-00305-00097127-00097417 during and after climate change impacts H497AnVbakE-00306-00097418-00097651 like floods and cyclones and the H497AnVbakE-00307-00097652-00097867 protection of the environment and the H497AnVbakE-00308-00097868-00098512 tourism sector H497AnVbakE-00309-00098513-00099092 topic see also H497AnVbakE-00310-00099093-00099646 sri lanka environment of sri lanka H497AnVbakE-00311-00099647-00100067 deforestation in sri lanka effects of H497AnVbakE-00312-00100068-00100432 global warming in sri lanka H4JdjH2wAFu-00000-00000006-00000185 for those who don't know me I'm Laura H4JdjH2wAFu-00001-00000186-00000428 Abbott I'm one of two Fedora criminal H4JdjH2wAFu-00002-00000429-00000574 maintainers the other being Justin H4JdjH2wAFu-00003-00000575-00000860 Forbes right there we are two full-time H4JdjH2wAFu-00004-00000861-00001022 engineers at Red Hat whose job is to H4JdjH2wAFu-00005-00001023-00001361 maintain the Fedora kernel and this is a H4JdjH2wAFu-00006-00001362-00001589 session I called fedora processor whew H4JdjH2wAFu-00007-00001590-00001838 but I really want I don't have a whole 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me say 9 USB H4JdjH2wAFu-00022-00007962-00008480 webcams I mean the purpose here is also H4JdjH2wAFu-00023-00008481-00008651 to do processing so if there is a way H4JdjH2wAFu-00024-00008652-00009200 that process can non RedHat community H4JdjH2wAFu-00025-00009201-00010714 engagement H4JdjH2wAFu-00026-00010715-00011027 anything else if anybody is new maybe is H4JdjH2wAFu-00027-00011028-00011227 a quick primer on what it is that is H4JdjH2wAFu-00028-00011228-00011457 happening right now H4JdjH2wAFu-00029-00011458-00011917 four wheels okay that's a good one I'll H4JdjH2wAFu-00030-00011918-00012046 probably start with that before we get H4JdjH2wAFu-00031-00012047-00012337 to any of the other topics and then I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-00032-00012338-00012532 curious if the colonel is gonna make use H4JdjH2wAFu-00033-00012533-00013165 of any of ranching H4JdjH2wAFu-00034-00013166-00013303 thank you for actually going to get H4JdjH2wAFu-00035-00013304-00013557 multiple streams H4JdjH2wAFu-00036-00013558-00013731 whether anybody wants to think about H4JdjH2wAFu-00037-00013732-00014303 that or not H4JdjH2wAFu-00038-00014304-00014709 okay this looks like a good set of H4JdjH2wAFu-00039-00014710-00015055 topics so I will start with giving an H4JdjH2wAFu-00040-00015056-00015336 overview of some of the topics about how H4JdjH2wAFu-00041-00015337-00015805 the kernel process works and then we can H4JdjH2wAFu-00042-00015806-00016099 go on to these then I think if there's H4JdjH2wAFu-00043-00016100-00016356 no objections I will just kind of go in H4JdjH2wAFu-00044-00016357-00016575 order here I will probably see if we can H4JdjH2wAFu-00045-00016576-00016786 try and limit discussion on some of H4JdjH2wAFu-00046-00016787-00017028 these two I'd say 20 minutes first and H4JdjH2wAFu-00047-00017029-00017308 then if they're still engagement we can H4JdjH2wAFu-00048-00017309-00017446 get to me can you going to so we don't H4JdjH2wAFu-00049-00017447-00017994 get read hold too much we try and have a H4JdjH2wAFu-00050-00017995-00018705 so I will H4JdjH2wAFu-00051-00018706-00018855 for the people who are watching this H4JdjH2wAFu-00052-00018856-00019077 recording um I'm sorry this may not be a H4JdjH2wAFu-00053-00019078-00019398 great session to try and watch remotely H4JdjH2wAFu-00054-00019399-00019644 just because it's intended to be a H4JdjH2wAFu-00055-00019645-00019857 discussion session if people who are H4JdjH2wAFu-00056-00019858-00020010 trying to talk would like to come up and H4JdjH2wAFu-00057-00020011-00020253 use the microphone we can but I don't H4JdjH2wAFu-00058-00020254-00020372 think this is going to be very H4JdjH2wAFu-00059-00020373-00020553 effectively recorded so I may just give H4JdjH2wAFu-00060-00020554-00021644 up okay so for those who are not H4JdjH2wAFu-00061-00021645-00021780 familiar with the kernel process right H4JdjH2wAFu-00062-00021781-00022128 now we fedora the federal criminals H4JdjH2wAFu-00063-00022129-00022416 essentially like any other Fedora attack H4JdjH2wAFu-00064-00022417-00022605 which is that we use a package get model H4JdjH2wAFu-00065-00022606-00022917 where the package it has a list of H4JdjH2wAFu-00066-00022918-00023187 sourcing and then a series of patches we H4JdjH2wAFu-00067-00023188-00023460 apply on top of that that's the model we H4JdjH2wAFu-00068-00023461-00023643 use versus say having exploded tree H4JdjH2wAFu-00069-00023644-00023928 which has all the source file available H4JdjH2wAFu-00070-00023929-00024300 to build a lot of what Fedora those for H4JdjH2wAFu-00071-00024301-00024486 the kernel is dictated by the way the H4JdjH2wAFu-00072-00024487-00024704 kernel upstream process ends up working H4JdjH2wAFu-00073-00024705-00024969 fedoras goal is to try and stay as close H4JdjH2wAFu-00074-00024970-00025206 to the upstream kernel version as H4JdjH2wAFu-00075-00025207-00025536 possible rawhide is a snapshot of H4JdjH2wAFu-00076-00025537-00025706 Linda's Horrible's master branch H4JdjH2wAFu-00077-00025707-00025946 basically as soon as he patch it pushes H4JdjH2wAFu-00078-00025947-00026139 anything out publicly rawhide we'll be H4JdjH2wAFu-00079-00026139-00026400 giving it within the next day or so so H4JdjH2wAFu-00080-00026401-00026517 if you're running real high you were H4JdjH2wAFu-00081-00026518-00026781 running the very latest kernel throw our H4JdjH2wAFu-00082-00026782-00027123 stapler releases tend to get the last H4JdjH2wAFu-00083-00027124-00027389 stable kernel so for an example the H4JdjH2wAFu-00084-00027391-00027606 current credits in the development cycle H4JdjH2wAFu-00085-00027607-00027983 is 4.13 we are on our c7 that's in H4JdjH2wAFu-00086-00027985-00028464 rawhide Fedora 26 and 25 have the 4.12 H4JdjH2wAFu-00087-00028464-00028773 which is considered stable and once 4.13 H4JdjH2wAFu-00088-00028774-00028935 is released and it's gone through a H4JdjH2wAFu-00089-00028936-00029124 couple of kernel staple cycles we will H4JdjH2wAFu-00090-00029125-00029504 rebase that - for the Fedora kernels H4JdjH2wAFu-00091-00029505-00029695 leases that generally tends to happen H4JdjH2wAFu-00092-00029697-00030136 after a couple stay places that's the H4JdjH2wAFu-00093-00030137-00030343 gist of it justin is there anything you H4JdjH2wAFu-00094-00030344-00030530 want to chime in about the process a H4JdjH2wAFu-00095-00030531-00030980 couple things one is for when that H4JdjH2wAFu-00096-00030981-00031120 rebate happens a lot of people have H4JdjH2wAFu-00097-00031122-00031595 heard that it is true that we will H4JdjH2wAFu-00098-00031595-00031960 probably never rebase book 4.2 but H4JdjH2wAFu-00099-00031961-00032249 sometimes it's way after we don't have a H4JdjH2wAFu-00100-00032250-00032432 firm policy on there other than we want H4JdjH2wAFu-00101-00032433-00032664 to make sure that it's it's fairly same H4JdjH2wAFu-00102-00032665-00033049 things discussed upstream is not sane H4JdjH2wAFu-00103-00033050-00033227 yet so we pulled out three or done what H4JdjH2wAFu-00104-00033228-00033427 we would have done thought for with 4.12 H4JdjH2wAFu-00105-00033428-00033724 and still had a few pretty major issues H4JdjH2wAFu-00106-00033725-00034087 that I guess nobody noticed H4JdjH2wAFu-00107-00034088-00034480 so there's not a firm set the other H4JdjH2wAFu-00108-00034481-00034765 thing is while we are like most packages H4JdjH2wAFu-00109-00034766-00035201 that use sourcing patches and apply H4JdjH2wAFu-00110-00035202-00035414 those things the internal mechanism for H4JdjH2wAFu-00111-00035415-00035567 building the RP and we actually use git H4JdjH2wAFu-00112-00035568-00036043 so the kernel tree is exploded H4JdjH2wAFu-00113-00036044-00036179 they knew get tree and then patches H4JdjH2wAFu-00114-00036180-00036562 write it on top of that it's helpful H4JdjH2wAFu-00115-00036563-00036829 with a number of things but the reason H4JdjH2wAFu-00116-00036830-00036949 that it's important that everybody know H4JdjH2wAFu-00117-00036950-00037223 this is if you submit a patch that patch H4JdjH2wAFu-00118-00037224-00037336 needs to be something that'll actually H4JdjH2wAFu-00119-00037337-00037589 apply with Gideon if it doesn't apply H4JdjH2wAFu-00120-00037590-00037810 with Gideon because it's missing H4JdjH2wAFu-00121-00037811-00038404 standard headers H4JdjH2wAFu-00122-00038405-00038787 we have you have to go back and fix it H4JdjH2wAFu-00123-00038788-00039043 what happens when I actually open it I H4JdjH2wAFu-00124-00039044-00039258 was a support word like if I open above H4JdjH2wAFu-00125-00039259-00039469 take me through the process of how that H4JdjH2wAFu-00126-00039470-00039951 dog actually gets fixed H4JdjH2wAFu-00127-00039952-00040230 okay I'll start with this um H4JdjH2wAFu-00128-00040231-00040590 it really depends on what kind of bug is H4JdjH2wAFu-00129-00040591-00040845 out there generally if it's something H4JdjH2wAFu-00130-00040846-00041064 that I know how to fix or I think I have H4JdjH2wAFu-00131-00041065-00041181 a reasonable attempt at knowing how to H4JdjH2wAFu-00132-00041182-00041340 fix I will take an effort H4JdjH2wAFu-00133-00041341-00041574 look the bug see if it's something that H4JdjH2wAFu-00134-00041575-00041715 has been fixed up stream already and if H4JdjH2wAFu-00135-00041716-00041886 it is great that's made by day a lot H4JdjH2wAFu-00136-00041887-00042291 easier and I will be able to pull it in H4JdjH2wAFu-00137-00042292-00042540 but a lot of what we do sometimes is H4JdjH2wAFu-00138-00042541-00042789 trying to figure out is this what I call H4JdjH2wAFu-00139-00042790-00042981 it like those Hardware independent or is H4JdjH2wAFu-00140-00042982-00043185 it Hardware specific problems just H4JdjH2wAFu-00141-00043186-00043365 because we're specific problems tend to H4JdjH2wAFu-00142-00043366-00043614 be much more difficult to try and debug H4JdjH2wAFu-00143-00043615-00043827 unless I either have knowledge about H4JdjH2wAFu-00144-00043828-00043962 what might be going wrong with the H4JdjH2wAFu-00145-00043963-00044159 hardware or I have the hardware itself H4JdjH2wAFu-00146-00044160-00044568 software independent bugs are Hardware H4JdjH2wAFu-00147-00044569-00044745 dependent bugs are much easier to deal H4JdjH2wAFu-00148-00044746-00044898 with if I can just get a specific test H4JdjH2wAFu-00149-00044899-00045327 case it also depends on what kind of H4JdjH2wAFu-00150-00045328-00045543 test case or a reproducer there actually H4JdjH2wAFu-00151-00045544-00045894 is if there is a nice concrete say H4JdjH2wAFu-00152-00045895-00046248 script or program to run that H4JdjH2wAFu-00153-00046249-00046431 demonstrates a problem that also makes a H4JdjH2wAFu-00154-00046432-00046914 lot easier to things so that's roughly H4JdjH2wAFu-00155-00046915-00047184 what I try and figure out um suspend H4JdjH2wAFu-00156-00047185-00047340 resume bugs unfortunately a lot of time H4JdjH2wAFu-00157-00047341-00047475 to stir a pretty popular tend to be H4JdjH2wAFu-00158-00047476-00047814 hardware specific so those tend to get H4JdjH2wAFu-00159-00047815-00048036 left to the side I always try and tell H4JdjH2wAFu-00160-00048037-00048210 people if you can have a looking at H4JdjH2wAFu-00161-00048211-00048393 non-working kernel and you can run git H4JdjH2wAFu-00162-00048394-00048612 bisect to try and find commit that is H4JdjH2wAFu-00163-00048613-00048804 incredibly helpful just be able to point H4JdjH2wAFu-00164-00048805-00048963 to a specific commit you need to report H4JdjH2wAFu-00165-00048964-00049248 that to upstream or try and look at it H4JdjH2wAFu-00166-00049249-00049467 you're yourself is a great starting H4JdjH2wAFu-00167-00049468-00049971 point to be able to get things fixed H4JdjH2wAFu-00168-00049972-00050430 um either if I always encourage any H4JdjH2wAFu-00169-00050431-00050583 Fedora community member who wants to H4JdjH2wAFu-00170-00050584-00050751 report it upstream directly to go ahead H4JdjH2wAFu-00171-00050752-00050993 and interact with the chrome community H4JdjH2wAFu-00172-00050994-00051290 the kurma community has been not always H4JdjH2wAFu-00173-00051291-00051513 known to be the most welcoming but I H4JdjH2wAFu-00174-00051514-00051752 still encourage people who decide if H4JdjH2wAFu-00175-00051753-00051912 they choose to want to interact from H4JdjH2wAFu-00176-00051913-00052275 community to interact with it it may in H4JdjH2wAFu-00177-00052276-00052521 fact go better for them than they expect H4JdjH2wAFu-00178-00052522-00052854 so that or if for whatever reason H4JdjH2wAFu-00179-00052854-00053030 someone just had the time or the H4JdjH2wAFu-00180-00053032-00053160 experience one to do that we can report H4JdjH2wAFu-00181-00053161-00054222 the book yes and yes that is a good H4JdjH2wAFu-00182-00054223-00054426 point and one reason why I don't always H4JdjH2wAFu-00183-00054427-00054600 like trying to report the bugs upstairs H4JdjH2wAFu-00184-00054601-00054696 because it does feel like I'm just H4JdjH2wAFu-00185-00054697-00054870 playing man in the middle in terms of H4JdjH2wAFu-00186-00054871-00054996 trying to get reports and things like H4JdjH2wAFu-00187-00054997-00055803 that sand and we have there is a process H4JdjH2wAFu-00188-00055804-00056049 of prioritizing this is something that H4JdjH2wAFu-00189-00056050-00056561 really needs to be addressed H4JdjH2wAFu-00190-00056562-00056954 this is affecting one either that it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00191-00056955-00057186 not critical sounds not working right or H4JdjH2wAFu-00192-00057187-00058275 something that it will get H4JdjH2wAFu-00193-00058276-00058485 I'm also curious I know it's just a pee H4JdjH2wAFu-00194-00058486-00058650 but this is gonna sound like a loaded or H4JdjH2wAFu-00195-00058651-00058793 angry question I don't mean it that way H4JdjH2wAFu-00196-00058794-00058923 at all I mean this very introspective H4JdjH2wAFu-00197-00058924-00059241 lis what do you to consider this is just H4JdjH2wAFu-00198-00059241-00059454 the two of you or a very fast-moving H4JdjH2wAFu-00199-00059454-00059850 distro what do you consider doing a good H4JdjH2wAFu-00200-00059851-00060036 job like what does that mean to you - H4JdjH2wAFu-00201-00060037-00060285 they're probably different than the rest H4JdjH2wAFu-00202-00060286-00060937 of the packagers well I'd probably say H4JdjH2wAFu-00203-00060938-00061254 getting out getting at a release that H4JdjH2wAFu-00204-00061254-00061560 I'd probably say is booting on on H4JdjH2wAFu-00205-00061561-00061756 everything is at least a good pretty H4JdjH2wAFu-00206-00061757-00061974 starting point this is seems like a low H4JdjH2wAFu-00207-00061975-00062144 bar but there are some ones that will H4JdjH2wAFu-00208-00062145-00062484 not be able to boot up at watch so I'd H4JdjH2wAFu-00209-00062485-00062912 like to see that and then I my hope H4JdjH2wAFu-00210-00062913-00063113 would be is is that success would be on H4JdjH2wAFu-00211-00063114-00063563 classes of common hardware so the most H4JdjH2wAFu-00212-00063564-00063786 popular laptops the most popular servers H4JdjH2wAFu-00213-00063787-00064025 and things like that if that's those are H4JdjH2wAFu-00214-00064026-00064446 working effectively then I think that's H4JdjH2wAFu-00215-00064447-00064619 a good notion of success because the H4JdjH2wAFu-00216-00064620-00064746 problem is is that there are two of us H4JdjH2wAFu-00217-00064747-00065010 and we can't support every weird quirky H4JdjH2wAFu-00218-00065011-00065440 setup so yeah so H4JdjH2wAFu-00219-00065441-00065809 I so there's been some focus on trying H4JdjH2wAFu-00220-00065810-00066000 to make laptops works well and I think H4JdjH2wAFu-00221-00066001-00066318 that's really what I think is a good H4JdjH2wAFu-00222-00066319-00066604 measure of success is that for the H4JdjH2wAFu-00223-00066605-00066805 common Hardware out there that people H4JdjH2wAFu-00224-00066806-00066979 actually want to run is fedor running H4JdjH2wAFu-00225-00066980-00068353 well making sure that as we push we do H4JdjH2wAFu-00226-00068354-00068503 put enough bugs because that's what I H4JdjH2wAFu-00227-00068504-00068704 mean it happens every time three bases H4JdjH2wAFu-00228-00068705-00068911 but making sure that we are not pushing H4JdjH2wAFu-00229-00068912-00069373 out major regressions but that's the H4JdjH2wAFu-00230-00069374-00069555 racket of software demos we create the H4JdjH2wAFu-00231-00069556-00069750 bugs and in charge people that have been H4JdjH2wAFu-00232-00069751-00070407 fixed so I think that's probably a H4JdjH2wAFu-00233-00070408-00070696 general overview of the kernel process H4JdjH2wAFu-00234-00070697-00070881 there's nothing else major I'd like to H4JdjH2wAFu-00235-00070882-00071613 move on to topics H4JdjH2wAFu-00236-00071614-00072072 that's a good question the Fedora H4JdjH2wAFu-00237-00072073-00072369 Colonel just carry tries to minimize the H4JdjH2wAFu-00238-00072370-00072531 number of patches we carry on top of it H4JdjH2wAFu-00239-00072532-00072768 usually the patches we tend to carry are H4JdjH2wAFu-00240-00072769-00073185 a lot of what I think of our quirks to H4JdjH2wAFu-00241-00073186-00073311 try and make things a little bit better H4JdjH2wAFu-00242-00073312-00073520 that maybe upstream doesn't care about H4JdjH2wAFu-00243-00073521-00073791 we do carry some large out of three H4JdjH2wAFu-00244-00073792-00074048 patch apps currently the biggest one is H4JdjH2wAFu-00245-00074049-00074274 secure boot although we are making H4JdjH2wAFu-00246-00074275-00074511 progress to it get part of that in when H4JdjH2wAFu-00247-00074512-00074721 armed 64 does not yet have a CPI support H4JdjH2wAFu-00248-00074722-00075015 we were carrying that out of tree so I H4JdjH2wAFu-00249-00075016-00075255 like to think of at the core level H4JdjH2wAFu-00250-00075256-00075588 Fedora is very similar enough to H4JdjH2wAFu-00251-00075589-00075720 upstream that you should be that we H4JdjH2wAFu-00252-00075721-00075891 almost always report bugs and they are H4JdjH2wAFu-00253-00075892-00076179 irrelevant to exactly what is up there H4JdjH2wAFu-00254-00076180-00076428 but we're all and the other thing is H4JdjH2wAFu-00255-00076429-00076578 that we hope that the patches that we do H4JdjH2wAFu-00256-00076579-00076767 have tend to be short-lived at least H4JdjH2wAFu-00257-00076768-00076923 there's a lot of churn where say someone H4JdjH2wAFu-00258-00076924-00077085 points out a bug and says this is H4JdjH2wAFu-00259-00077086-00077247 there's been a fixture upstream can you H4JdjH2wAFu-00260-00077248-00077415 bring this in we bring it in and then H4JdjH2wAFu-00261-00077416-00077601 maybe it drops out when it comes in with H4JdjH2wAFu-00262-00077602-00078003 the next step what you do H4JdjH2wAFu-00263-00078004-00078535 1:56 yeah the girl doesn't know and H4JdjH2wAFu-00264-00078536-00078994 really you have like the the arm 64 H4JdjH2wAFu-00265-00078995-00079120 stuff is moving really quick right now H4JdjH2wAFu-00266-00079121-00079417 for unable things like that so a lot of H4JdjH2wAFu-00267-00079418-00079531 times there are several patches that are H4JdjH2wAFu-00268-00079532-00079768 grouped together in one patch there but H4JdjH2wAFu-00269-00079769-00079936 it seems that pretty much every rebase H4JdjH2wAFu-00270-00079937-00080854 as many as many leave as are coming H4JdjH2wAFu-00271-00080855-00082181 okay it's the people who use it H4JdjH2wAFu-00272-00082182-00082481 it's ET spy I'd say a handful of people H4JdjH2wAFu-00273-00082482-00082847 who steadily use it we are not seeing a H4JdjH2wAFu-00274-00082848-00083237 lot of new uses of it I would say as far H4JdjH2wAFu-00275-00083238-00083615 as actual numbers go it's hard to say H4JdjH2wAFu-00276-00083616-00084151 yeah from what we've heard the check-ins H4JdjH2wAFu-00277-00084152-00084517 is the largest number of check-ins on H4JdjH2wAFu-00278-00084518-00084872 i-35 686 is actually very old H4JdjH2wAFu-00279-00084873-00085013 unsupported police's at this point H4JdjH2wAFu-00280-00085014-00085215 they're still running them and they're H4JdjH2wAFu-00281-00085216-00085365 still hitting repos because the H4JdjH2wAFu-00282-00085366-00085598 automated process right sees if there H4JdjH2wAFu-00283-00085599-00085757 are updates but they're not there there H4JdjH2wAFu-00284-00085758-00085940 are users and there are some very vocal H4JdjH2wAFu-00285-00085941-00086415 users but it's I would say it's probably H4JdjH2wAFu-00286-00086416-00086980 a very small certainly not on the scale H4JdjH2wAFu-00287-00086981-00087287 Karma's more it's much bigger arm is H4JdjH2wAFu-00288-00087288-00087455 harder to measure though because of the H4JdjH2wAFu-00289-00087456-00087686 types of devices those are here you've H4JdjH2wAFu-00290-00087687-00087857 got all these little arm boards like a H4JdjH2wAFu-00291-00087858-00088082 Raspberry Pi or whatever the year you H4JdjH2wAFu-00292-00088083-00088280 know I've got three of them in my house H4JdjH2wAFu-00293-00088281-00088442 that are running music servers they H4JdjH2wAFu-00294-00088443-00088640 don't update they don't check in they H4JdjH2wAFu-00295-00088641-00088801 don't update because they're not H4JdjH2wAFu-00296-00088802-00089090 connected and they're only connected H4JdjH2wAFu-00297-00089091-00089354 internally and there's no reason to do H4JdjH2wAFu-00298-00089355-00089498 anything until I'm ready to reduce them H4JdjH2wAFu-00299-00089499-00090112 to something else H4JdjH2wAFu-00300-00090113-00090551 however the config H4JdjH2wAFu-00301-00090552-00090722 we're actually gonna spend some time H4JdjH2wAFu-00302-00090723-00091136 talking talking about that but the short H4JdjH2wAFu-00303-00091137-00091364 answer is is that we make a best guess H4JdjH2wAFu-00304-00091365-00091670 effort when new options come in and we H4JdjH2wAFu-00305-00091671-00091901 set them a lot of the options have been H4JdjH2wAFu-00306-00091902-00092054 set have basically been sent there since H4JdjH2wAFu-00307-00092055-00092285 they first came in so many kernels ago H4JdjH2wAFu-00308-00092286-00092459 they have not really been reviewed and H4JdjH2wAFu-00309-00092460-00092687 one thing things dogs time to talk about H4JdjH2wAFu-00310-00092688-00092876 is that what we're looking to try and do H4JdjH2wAFu-00311-00092877-00093161 to hopefully improve some of the cycle H4JdjH2wAFu-00312-00093162-00093320 about that hopefully maybe get a little H4JdjH2wAFu-00313-00093321-00093461 bit more review for people to care about H4JdjH2wAFu-00314-00093462-00093736 if you have an interest in any sort of H4JdjH2wAFu-00315-00093737-00094043 concurrency being turned on or off or H4JdjH2wAFu-00316-00094044-00094346 adjusted feel free to file a bug gazella H4JdjH2wAFu-00317-00094347-00094682 chances are if it's if we may not know H4JdjH2wAFu-00318-00094683-00094829 why it's set but he can come up with a H4JdjH2wAFu-00319-00094830-00095015 good argument why'd she be set one way H4JdjH2wAFu-00320-00095016-00095603 versus the other we're happy to set it H4JdjH2wAFu-00321-00095604-00095780 there let me do we do have people H4JdjH2wAFu-00322-00095781-00096055 occasionally say can you enable this and H4JdjH2wAFu-00323-00096056-00096248 there was a valid reason for not H4JdjH2wAFu-00324-00096249-00096368 enabling every waking minute was H4JdjH2wAFu-00325-00096369-00096499 something that either came in through H4JdjH2wAFu-00326-00096500-00097004 staging or came in as unstable or H4JdjH2wAFu-00327-00097005-00097190 experimental and it wasn't turned on and H4JdjH2wAFu-00328-00097191-00097426 then when it became stable supported we H4JdjH2wAFu-00329-00097427-00097616 never revisited that because it doesn't H4JdjH2wAFu-00330-00097617-00097778 show if there's a new option and H4JdjH2wAFu-00331-00097779-00098531 nobody's asked for it so H4JdjH2wAFu-00332-00098532-00098742 you want to go ahead and talk about H4JdjH2wAFu-00333-00098743-00099871 yourself H4JdjH2wAFu-00334-00099872-00100149 well my name is Danza kiss and right had H4JdjH2wAFu-00335-00100150-00100269 him a kernel engineer for those don't H4JdjH2wAFu-00336-00100270-00100486 know me I do recognized that half the H4JdjH2wAFu-00337-00100487-00100824 people through one of topics I want to H4JdjH2wAFu-00338-00100825-00101031 talk about today it was Colonel testing H4JdjH2wAFu-00339-00101032-00101230 one of the new initiatives we're doing H4JdjH2wAFu-00340-00101231-00101574 at Red Hat with atomic code Fedor host H4JdjH2wAFu-00341-00101575-00101900 nor atomic host that fast-moving host H4JdjH2wAFu-00342-00101901-00102136 initiatives is the Colonel's gonna be H4JdjH2wAFu-00343-00102137-00102255 moving a lot faster we want to make sure H4JdjH2wAFu-00344-00102256-00102472 these things are stable so one of the H4JdjH2wAFu-00345-00102473-00102585 things we want to at red head is that H4JdjH2wAFu-00346-00102586-00102933 provide a lot of our kernel testing for H4JdjH2wAFu-00347-00102934-00103143 fedora ideas they kind of help stabilize H4JdjH2wAFu-00348-00103144-00103308 fedora to support this initiative this H4JdjH2wAFu-00349-00103309-00103588 project so Red Hat and you probably know H4JdjH2wAFu-00350-00103589-00103758 we've had for years a lot of testing H4JdjH2wAFu-00351-00103759-00103927 internal testing that we put on the way H4JdjH2wAFu-00352-00103928-00104190 for the well Colonel T produced we want H4JdjH2wAFu-00353-00104191-00104334 to start moving that some that feet in H4JdjH2wAFu-00354-00104335-00104599 the public arena start testing that on H4JdjH2wAFu-00355-00104600-00104839 the Fedora kernels and provide some H4JdjH2wAFu-00356-00104840-00105688 value and community service back go even H4JdjH2wAFu-00357-00105689-00105844 further to help support it we were H4JdjH2wAFu-00358-00105845-00106278 looking to do mimic with the Intel H4JdjH2wAFu-00359-00106279-00106527 buildbot does those who aren't familiar H4JdjH2wAFu-00360-00106528-00106888 with it let us come and list it don't H4JdjH2wAFu-00361-00106889-00107044 host it patch within four hours until H4JdjH2wAFu-00362-00107045-00107214 it's got a machine that goes and nature H4JdjH2wAFu-00363-00107215-00107391 patch builds it and tells you if it H4JdjH2wAFu-00364-00107392-00107541 builds popular in a variety of H4JdjH2wAFu-00365-00107542-00107668 configurations we're looking to do H4JdjH2wAFu-00366-00107669-00107923 something similar with patches will test H4JdjH2wAFu-00367-00107924-00108241 them internally on our machines H4JdjH2wAFu-00368-00108242-00108497 tell you these patches at least H4JdjH2wAFu-00369-00108498-00108916 satisfied how we configure our kernel H4JdjH2wAFu-00370-00108917-00109046 and provide and let the community H4JdjH2wAFu-00371-00109047-00109223 hopefully fix those bugs early on rather H4JdjH2wAFu-00372-00109224-00109351 than having trickle down to the door and H4JdjH2wAFu-00373-00109352-00109537 haven't get filed in language for a H4JdjH2wAFu-00374-00109538-00109591 while H4JdjH2wAFu-00375-00109592-00109885 you think this we help stabilize the H4JdjH2wAFu-00376-00109886-00110147 door colonel a lot better than they are H4JdjH2wAFu-00377-00110148-00110212 today H4JdjH2wAFu-00378-00110213-00110904 and provide is amassed and value add to H4JdjH2wAFu-00379-00110905-00111164 so one of the project we did kick off H4JdjH2wAFu-00380-00111165-00111552 the put on for sure it's called SKT I H4JdjH2wAFu-00381-00111553-00111699 don't have a way to really write down H4JdjH2wAFu-00382-00111700-00111828 that length but I'm for sure about I oh H4JdjH2wAFu-00383-00111829-00112293 I guess there's is a thesis SKT is a H4JdjH2wAFu-00384-00112294-00112632 project named sonic Colonel testing is H4JdjH2wAFu-00385-00112633-00112794 worth calling it and you should feel H4JdjH2wAFu-00386-00112795-00113043 that it's it's very early in its H4JdjH2wAFu-00387-00113044-00113244 prototype but I do it's gonna go take my H4JdjH2wAFu-00388-00113245-00113478 mailing list build kernels and test them H4JdjH2wAFu-00389-00113479-00113700 and then report the results back one day H4JdjH2wAFu-00390-00113701-00113832 so that's one of things we're hoping to H4JdjH2wAFu-00391-00113833-00114161 do and open the community see some value H4JdjH2wAFu-00392-00114163-00114335 there and with our testing efforts will H4JdjH2wAFu-00393-00114336-00114593 combine with Jeff's Justin's work we can H4JdjH2wAFu-00394-00114594-00114900 maybe get more engagement from the H4JdjH2wAFu-00395-00114901-00115092 community to help run some these tests H4JdjH2wAFu-00396-00115093-00115384 on their machines in happen H4JdjH2wAFu-00397-00115385-00116320 it's just a figure Donald /sk TV H4JdjH2wAFu-00398-00116321-00116634 and I think it's gentleman over here us H4JdjH2wAFu-00399-00116635-00116893 a question about configs one of the H4JdjH2wAFu-00400-00116894-00117133 things that you know fedora Justin and H4JdjH2wAFu-00401-00117133-00117256 Laura are kind of overwhelmed with H4JdjH2wAFu-00402-00117257-00117373 somebody's config sometimes a lot of H4JdjH2wAFu-00403-00117374-00117510 times it's the best effort on the H4JdjH2wAFu-00404-00117511-00117919 initial day then later on with community H4JdjH2wAFu-00405-00117920-00118069 compliance and we need this driver we do H4JdjH2wAFu-00406-00118070-00118273 this feature enabled they'll ask for it H4JdjH2wAFu-00407-00118274-00118423 so one of the things we're trying to H4JdjH2wAFu-00408-00118424-00118594 work on is having you know right that H4JdjH2wAFu-00409-00118595-00118734 engineers get engaged in some these H4JdjH2wAFu-00410-00118735-00118978 configs and say hey you know what from H4JdjH2wAFu-00411-00118979-00119085 our experience we've learned these H4JdjH2wAFu-00412-00119086-00119314 config options if you tweak them this H4JdjH2wAFu-00413-00119315-00119701 setting you get better value better this H4JdjH2wAFu-00414-00119702-00119848 feature is interesting you community H4JdjH2wAFu-00415-00119849-00120181 public wants is these settings are pilot H4JdjH2wAFu-00416-00120182-00120313 lot better if a community community one H4JdjH2wAFu-00417-00120314-00120445 so we're going to start hopefully H4JdjH2wAFu-00418-00120446-00120679 providing value there and adding doing H4JdjH2wAFu-00419-00120680-00120799 our internal review and providing H4JdjH2wAFu-00420-00120800-00121125 suggestions to fit our community and H4JdjH2wAFu-00421-00121126-00121396 hopefully they see value there and H4JdjH2wAFu-00422-00121397-00121543 accepting other we can have a H4JdjH2wAFu-00423-00121544-00121900 conversation about that so we're hoping H4JdjH2wAFu-00424-00121901-00122044 to helping you know kind of offload some H4JdjH2wAFu-00425-00122045-00122344 that burden off just a Laurie H4JdjH2wAFu-00426-00122345-00122768 folks H4JdjH2wAFu-00427-00122769-00123201 that covers my wife any thoughts H4JdjH2wAFu-00428-00123202-00123479 at the next phase of H4JdjH2wAFu-00429-00123480-00123882 Espie people advising okay so our SKT H4JdjH2wAFu-00430-00123883-00124068 project right now is pretty simple it H4JdjH2wAFu-00431-00124069-00124279 just kind of takes kernels builds it H4JdjH2wAFu-00432-00124280-00124608 internally it runs a test suite on them H4JdjH2wAFu-00433-00124608-00124913 on our machines and of course then if H4JdjH2wAFu-00434-00124914-00125073 the test fails when the value-add is H4JdjH2wAFu-00435-00125074-00125469 provide an email feedback to curl or not H4JdjH2wAFu-00436-00125470-00125627 those guys you know they've heard the H4JdjH2wAFu-00437-00125628-00125765 tests we had there's a failure H4JdjH2wAFu-00438-00125766-00125943 do you guys help fix it and ideas if you H4JdjH2wAFu-00439-00125944-00126096 get it early enough people posted patch H4JdjH2wAFu-00440-00126097-00126404 can respond appropriately this failure H4JdjH2wAFu-00441-00126405-00126737 feedback only works if you can kind of H4JdjH2wAFu-00442-00126738-00126914 it works great in the patch per level H4JdjH2wAFu-00443-00126915-00127269 but if you're doing on a like a Elena's H4JdjH2wAFu-00444-00127270-00127553 kernel get tree sometimes you need to do H4JdjH2wAFu-00445-00127554-00127712 a bisect on there you go - that's our H4JdjH2wAFu-00446-00127713-00127874 five second patches automatic that we're H4JdjH2wAFu-00447-00127875-00128073 looking at that logic and sqg to help H4JdjH2wAFu-00448-00128074-00128181 with the failure case we've been there H4JdjH2wAFu-00449-00128182-00128528 down commit responding properly so it H4JdjH2wAFu-00450-00128529-00128750 really helps engage the kernel.org folks H4JdjH2wAFu-00451-00128751-00128933 to say hey look okay this exact commit H4JdjH2wAFu-00452-00128934-00129120 hers the test is failing okay with a H4JdjH2wAFu-00453-00129121-00129377 lodge good think about what long produce H4JdjH2wAFu-00454-00129378-00129729 who said correct H4JdjH2wAFu-00455-00129730-00130263 I figure H4JdjH2wAFu-00456-00130264-00131347 open QAF I think it's same thing except H4JdjH2wAFu-00457-00131348-00131560 that we're using Red Hat resources he's H4JdjH2wAFu-00458-00131561-00131788 using for the resources we have to have H4JdjH2wAFu-00459-00131789-00132206 that conversation with him to different H4JdjH2wAFu-00460-00132207-00133493 efforts just talking to here it sounds H4JdjH2wAFu-00461-00133494-00133723 like we can integrate all of this and - H4JdjH2wAFu-00462-00133724-00133882 so they're complementary to each other H4JdjH2wAFu-00463-00133883-00135556 I'm sure we can yeah well I mean if you H4JdjH2wAFu-00464-00135557-00135719 obviously understand what what hardware H4JdjH2wAFu-00465-00135720-00136003 Red Hat has so if you want folks like H4JdjH2wAFu-00466-00136004-00136282 Adam to participate and run you on H4JdjH2wAFu-00467-00136283-00136549 public hardware it's probably a good H4JdjH2wAFu-00468-00136550-00137086 question today I have another H4JdjH2wAFu-00469-00137087-00137649 conversation with him H4JdjH2wAFu-00470-00137650-00137935 so was take a step back through running H4JdjH2wAFu-00471-00137936-00138097 a test where we're doing and SKT is H4JdjH2wAFu-00472-00138098-00138368 gonna do on you know capturing upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-00473-00138369-00138668 Colonel like net necks or maybe it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00474-00138669-00138802 analyzed history so we're catching H4JdjH2wAFu-00475-00138803-00139054 different get trees there and then H4JdjH2wAFu-00476-00139055-00139333 running tests whereas open QA maybe H4JdjH2wAFu-00477-00139334-00139564 taking a standard red hat or Fedora rpm H4JdjH2wAFu-00478-00139565-00139753 and running tests on there so a H4JdjH2wAFu-00479-00139754-00139960 day-to-day we're building something and H4JdjH2wAFu-00480-00139961-00140131 running a test on there and that might H4JdjH2wAFu-00481-00140132-00140359 be running a similar test on a standard H4JdjH2wAFu-00482-00140360-00140609 Fedora rpm so you may never H4JdjH2wAFu-00483-00140610-00140909 come around to running SKT but maybe H4JdjH2wAFu-00484-00140910-00141152 I've had a conversation it might might H4JdjH2wAFu-00485-00141153-00142460 make sense in his work H4JdjH2wAFu-00486-00142461-00143000 so on they need to be available H4JdjH2wAFu-00487-00143001-00143228 right so that will make it probably a H4JdjH2wAFu-00488-00143229-00143372 slightly different subset of testing H4JdjH2wAFu-00489-00143373-00143602 also the hardware H4JdjH2wAFu-00490-00143603-00143800 well then there's a different way of H4JdjH2wAFu-00491-00143801-00144190 seeing it is also that if we do gate for H4JdjH2wAFu-00492-00144191-00144564 example every time you rebase we take a H4JdjH2wAFu-00493-00144565-00145324 large test suite and say no that's not H4JdjH2wAFu-00494-00145325-00145537 it's gonna be right but it's not gonna H4JdjH2wAFu-00495-00145538-00145795 be productive so by going all the way up H4JdjH2wAFu-00496-00145796-00146011 straight we actually give the feedback H4JdjH2wAFu-00497-00146012-00146149 to the people who could take action H4JdjH2wAFu-00498-00146150-00146425 that's almost a prerequisite so then H4JdjH2wAFu-00499-00146426-00146566 maybe even using exactly the same H4JdjH2wAFu-00500-00146567-00146779 testament to get ourselves further H4JdjH2wAFu-00501-00146780-00147037 downstream where hope by that point H4JdjH2wAFu-00502-00147038-00147838 we'll have less to deal with yeah and we H4JdjH2wAFu-00503-00147839-00148075 do end up with cases where sometimes we H4JdjH2wAFu-00504-00148076-00148432 do have to push something like the 4 12 H4JdjH2wAFu-00505-00148433-00148627 5 update with a different way first H4JdjH2wAFu-00506-00148628-00148918 filing for 12 or nobody hit apparently H4JdjH2wAFu-00507-00148919-00149086 nobody's been testing because there were H4JdjH2wAFu-00508-00149087-00149281 some pretty major issues that nobody H4JdjH2wAFu-00509-00149282-00149515 didn't notice and H4JdjH2wAFu-00510-00149516-00149837 within by the time I got the first round H4JdjH2wAFu-00511-00149838-00150179 of those fix and I was putting four four H4JdjH2wAFu-00512-00150180-00150329 five out there we had to push that H4JdjH2wAFu-00513-00150330-00150509 because there were security fixes in H4JdjH2wAFu-00514-00150510-00150683 there that were actually really critical H4JdjH2wAFu-00515-00150684-00150947 so qxl is still broken there's a H4JdjH2wAFu-00516-00150948-00151139 workaround for it so it's not that H4JdjH2wAFu-00517-00151140-00151382 critical that it's broken but we had to H4JdjH2wAFu-00518-00151383-00151835 push it well it's so that goes into the H4JdjH2wAFu-00519-00151836-00152252 questions I have so SKT is they have a H4JdjH2wAFu-00520-00152253-00152465 little figure now but it is something H4JdjH2wAFu-00521-00152466-00152618 that's gonna be running internally but H4JdjH2wAFu-00522-00152619-00152729 the results of which will be made H4JdjH2wAFu-00523-00152730-00152891 actually so are those results being H4JdjH2wAFu-00524-00152892-00153158 posted somewhere right now right now H4JdjH2wAFu-00525-00153159-00153278 it's done internally just to kind of get H4JdjH2wAFu-00526-00153279-00153467 the pipeline established but the goal is H4JdjH2wAFu-00527-00153468-00153770 to kind of run public tests and somehow H4JdjH2wAFu-00528-00153771-00153986 we'll find a way to publish results H4JdjH2wAFu-00529-00153987-00154214 publicly yeah sure Jeff can figure that H4JdjH2wAFu-00530-00154215-00154490 out some of the problems you run into is H4JdjH2wAFu-00531-00154491-00154794 when we take H4JdjH2wAFu-00532-00154795-00155040 next branch fails but it fails because H4JdjH2wAFu-00533-00155041-00155277 it failed because it's cussing it's not H4JdjH2wAFu-00534-00155278-00155580 necessarily a problem so we don't want H4JdjH2wAFu-00535-00155581-00155745 to spam H4JdjH2wAFu-00536-00155746-00156027 scuzzy beggars my syndicate personally H4JdjH2wAFu-00537-00156028-00156303 we we do have a way for where we have a H4JdjH2wAFu-00538-00156304-00156513 front end for the current test system H4JdjH2wAFu-00539-00156514-00156846 that already in fedora that it takes log H4JdjH2wAFu-00540-00156847-00157068 files based on internal build and then H4JdjH2wAFu-00541-00157069-00157257 it's got a set us up the status update H4JdjH2wAFu-00542-00157258-00157454 on the front page is only updated from H4JdjH2wAFu-00543-00157455-00157737 tests that are submitted from official H4JdjH2wAFu-00544-00157738-00157917 test systems anybody else we can click H4JdjH2wAFu-00545-00157918-00158052 on a kernel version and you can see H4JdjH2wAFu-00546-00158053-00158172 everybody who's run that test and H4JdjH2wAFu-00547-00158173-00158319 submitted results you can see all the H4JdjH2wAFu-00548-00158320-00158742 results there is a way that we could H4JdjH2wAFu-00549-00158743-00159045 take the the some sort of a log file H4JdjH2wAFu-00550-00159046-00159348 summary output from this system and H4JdjH2wAFu-00551-00159349-00159537 import it directly into there so you can H4JdjH2wAFu-00552-00159538-00159804 look at a kernel and yeah especially if H4JdjH2wAFu-00553-00159805-00160020 we can you know find a way to market as H4JdjH2wAFu-00554-00160021-00160377 this is SKT results then you could just H4JdjH2wAFu-00555-00160378-00160545 look at C so that that would pay tribute H4JdjH2wAFu-00556-00160546-00160686 light it's a very crowd-sourced way of H4JdjH2wAFu-00557-00160687-00161175 getting some of which will be people and H4JdjH2wAFu-00558-00161176-00161453 some of it will be in theory box right H4JdjH2wAFu-00559-00161454-00161673 so then my other question is I guess H4JdjH2wAFu-00560-00161674-00161802 this goes there so let's say we get H4JdjH2wAFu-00561-00161803-00162027 those results in there one of the things H4JdjH2wAFu-00562-00162028-00162243 that has has still it still confounds me H4JdjH2wAFu-00563-00162244-00162384 a little bit on the fedora side it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00564-00162385-00162660 probably four or agustin is when you H4JdjH2wAFu-00565-00162661-00162795 when we find out that something is H4JdjH2wAFu-00566-00162796-00163047 broken how do we go about fixing those H4JdjH2wAFu-00567-00163048-00163274 things especially if there's game H4JdjH2wAFu-00568-00163275-00163649 - yeah so dating can become problematic H4JdjH2wAFu-00569-00163650-00163856 there except for for reasons like I just H4JdjH2wAFu-00570-00163857-00164077 mentioned right to excel I didn't want H4JdjH2wAFu-00571-00164078-00164324 to push out Brooking yourself yeah but H4JdjH2wAFu-00572-00164325-00164539 at that point we'd had enough built up H4JdjH2wAFu-00573-00164540-00165099 in there so H4JdjH2wAFu-00574-00165100-00165270 what we did initially soon as that H4JdjH2wAFu-00575-00165271-00166594 showed up it was posted upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-00576-00166595-00166975 extreme kernel developers who have much H4JdjH2wAFu-00577-00166976-00167119 more in-depth knowledge of all the H4JdjH2wAFu-00578-00167120-00167332 subsystems of the the Fedora curl H4JdjH2wAFu-00579-00167333-00167452 maintainer role is kind of a general H4JdjH2wAFu-00580-00167453-00167761 role and you can only just and I can H4JdjH2wAFu-00581-00167762-00167905 only do so much so we really do rely on H4JdjH2wAFu-00582-00167906-00168061 that but again the problem is that if H4JdjH2wAFu-00583-00168062-00168319 upstream doesn't respond then we're kind H4JdjH2wAFu-00584-00168320-00168502 of stuck with not knowing exactly what H4JdjH2wAFu-00585-00168503-00168793 to do and I know if stream has no sort H4JdjH2wAFu-00586-00168794-00168997 of SLA both like what is the common H4JdjH2wAFu-00587-00168998-00169162 expectation for a bug is it usually a H4JdjH2wAFu-00588-00169163-00169312 month turn around six months H4JdjH2wAFu-00589-00169313-00169453 turn around lutely a lot of times H4JdjH2wAFu-00590-00169454-00169644 depends on the severity of the bug H4JdjH2wAFu-00591-00169645-00170014 irritating yes some bugs you know we get H4JdjH2wAFu-00592-00170015-00170326 less than 24 turn on some sometimes you H4JdjH2wAFu-00593-00170327-00170497 will post something to the maintainer H4JdjH2wAFu-00594-00170498-00170788 and they see it and say oh yeah hold on H4JdjH2wAFu-00595-00170789-00170896 you know exactly where that's coming H4JdjH2wAFu-00596-00170897-00171157 from and they give us a fix or oh yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-00597-00171158-00171298 that's really serious let me see what I H4JdjH2wAFu-00598-00171299-00171520 can do that how many times is that one H4JdjH2wAFu-00599-00171521-00171904 of our guys that's holding up the pics H4JdjH2wAFu-00600-00171905-00172273 know that is doing because I know that H4JdjH2wAFu-00601-00172274-00172671 we I don't know how many a stream H4JdjH2wAFu-00602-00172672-00173406 yep I would say it's not just you know H4JdjH2wAFu-00603-00173407-00173592 it really comes to who's maintaining the H4JdjH2wAFu-00604-00173593-00173763 code a lot of times if it's if it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00605-00173764-00174324 driver stuff I know right I tell on H4JdjH2wAFu-00606-00174325-00174534 networking folks yeah yeah networking H4JdjH2wAFu-00607-00174535-00175296 stuff and and there's some things that H4JdjH2wAFu-00608-00175297-00175579 we just honestly don't treat gosh H4JdjH2wAFu-00609-00175580-00175941 but a fascist H4JdjH2wAFu-00610-00175942-00176257 do either side oh yeah absolutely yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-00611-00176258-00176427 Fedora has a very different approach H4JdjH2wAFu-00612-00176428-00176772 than rel and then we're going to enable H4JdjH2wAFu-00613-00176773-00177012 as much as as we can because people want H4JdjH2wAFu-00614-00177013-00177244 to use it and because we don't have H4JdjH2wAFu-00615-00177245-00177687 support s LA's then no good breaks right H4JdjH2wAFu-00616-00177688-00177970 so you know butter off s for awhile was H4JdjH2wAFu-00617-00177971-00178270 hey this is great and then it's it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00618-00178271-00178482 kind of gone in a different direction so H4JdjH2wAFu-00619-00178483-00178732 you know it's enabled and I don't see us H4JdjH2wAFu-00620-00178733-00178887 turning it off for any particular reason H4JdjH2wAFu-00621-00178888-00179143 but we also don't have resources to look H4JdjH2wAFu-00622-00179144-00179337 at the bugs and the resources upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-00623-00179338-00179697 or frequently interested in other things H4JdjH2wAFu-00624-00179698-00180836 not the types of H4JdjH2wAFu-00625-00180837-00181153 so I guess what like in terms of getting H4JdjH2wAFu-00626-00181154-00181406 I mean I guess just to go back to giving H4JdjH2wAFu-00627-00181407-00181738 results into what was the kernel test H4JdjH2wAFu-00628-00181739-00182057 there was a app called kernel tested or H4JdjH2wAFu-00629-00182058-00182213 app so right now that we've got this H4JdjH2wAFu-00630-00182214-00182474 other test suite that it's a quick test H4JdjH2wAFu-00631-00182475-00182825 suite that users can run and that we run H4JdjH2wAFu-00632-00182826-00183176 on everything so it does things checks a H4JdjH2wAFu-00633-00183177-00183458 few common cases unfortunately we've H4JdjH2wAFu-00634-00183459-00183632 every time we ask for a community help H4JdjH2wAFu-00635-00183633-00184027 to submit test we usually will get a H4JdjH2wAFu-00636-00184028-00184226 couple people say oh yeah well of do H4JdjH2wAFu-00637-00184227-00184382 that we write the test and that's what H4JdjH2wAFu-00638-00184383-00184688 we hear of them so it is I mean it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00639-00184689-00184847 hard and it's not a high priority for a H4JdjH2wAFu-00640-00184848-00184975 lot of people but you know hopefully H4JdjH2wAFu-00641-00184976-00185624 there's this but right now users are H4JdjH2wAFu-00642-00185625-00185965 ring that and submitting results and we H4JdjH2wAFu-00643-00185966-00186197 even actually hand out badges for people H4JdjH2wAFu-00644-00186198-00186439 who run kernel tests for us which is H4JdjH2wAFu-00645-00186440-00186666 more of a motivator than you would think H4JdjH2wAFu-00646-00186667-00186911 we have a lot of people running tests H4JdjH2wAFu-00647-00186912-00187165 just to get back H4JdjH2wAFu-00648-00187166-00187435 and it's cool no they run it on various H4JdjH2wAFu-00649-00187436-00187609 hardware and because you you get H4JdjH2wAFu-00650-00187610-00187786 increments in those badges then there H4JdjH2wAFu-00651-00187787-00188110 are people who test every kernel in H4JdjH2wAFu-00652-00188111-00188287 that's that's fantastic so we can get H4JdjH2wAFu-00653-00188288-00188539 something better out there all we have H4JdjH2wAFu-00654-00188540-00188806 to do though do if there's some sort of H4JdjH2wAFu-00655-00188807-00188923 the summary that comes out of these H4JdjH2wAFu-00656-00188924-00189121 tests on service or McLoughlin then H4JdjH2wAFu-00657-00189122-00189424 really we would just change we could H4JdjH2wAFu-00658-00189425-00190099 change a header and do a change that H4JdjH2wAFu-00659-00190100-00190357 sound like a reasonable point yeah so H4JdjH2wAFu-00660-00190358-00190549 one of the things I just want to people H4JdjH2wAFu-00661-00190550-00190768 may not know but specifically the H4JdjH2wAFu-00662-00190769-00190963 colonel general esteem is contributing a H4JdjH2wAFu-00663-00190964-00191189 lot of tests to this project called LTP H4JdjH2wAFu-00664-00191190-00191565 if you look you'll see a lot of brain H4JdjH2wAFu-00665-00191566-00191851 tests being added by Red Hat associates H4JdjH2wAFu-00666-00191852-00192064 and specifically this is one of the ways H4JdjH2wAFu-00667-00192065-00192393 that we're looking at using a test suite H4JdjH2wAFu-00668-00192394-00192822 LTP so it may not go into like a fedora H4JdjH2wAFu-00669-00192823-00193089 dis kit or an opportunity just get repo H4JdjH2wAFu-00670-00193090-00193428 but yet the LTP project is adding 10 we H4JdjH2wAFu-00671-00193429-00193585 are adding tests directly to that and H4JdjH2wAFu-00672-00193586-00193759 that is one of the best Suites that we H4JdjH2wAFu-00673-00193760-00193827 will run H4JdjH2wAFu-00674-00193828-00194094 so indirectly you get me is one of the H4JdjH2wAFu-00675-00194095-00194205 contributions we can make two fedoras H4JdjH2wAFu-00676-00194206-00194445 that will help I'm sure is if we keep a H4JdjH2wAFu-00677-00194446-00194595 there's some sort of page upstream that H4JdjH2wAFu-00678-00194596-00194757 says how do you get involved for the H4JdjH2wAFu-00679-00194758-00194997 work rental testing we can add is how we H4JdjH2wAFu-00680-00194998-00195165 run tests we can you know run with your H4JdjH2wAFu-00681-00195166-00195321 tests wave you can tell them explain how H4JdjH2wAFu-00682-00195322-00195474 to run ltd tests and contribute H4JdjH2wAFu-00683-00195475-00195669 resultantly you can run a thin then wrap H4JdjH2wAFu-00684-00195670-00195861 around LTP to kind of well like all the H4JdjH2wAFu-00685-00195862-00196044 result yeah that's really all our test H4JdjH2wAFu-00686-00196045-00196221 suite is it's a number of sub H4JdjH2wAFu-00687-00196222-00196557 directories that go through and there's H4JdjH2wAFu-00688-00196558-00196791 a runt SSH and that's the directory and H4JdjH2wAFu-00689-00196792-00197133 it will there's no reason it can't hold H4JdjH2wAFu-00690-00197134-00197370 down things like even the the Nvidia H4JdjH2wAFu-00691-00197371-00197529 driver test we have just to make sure H4JdjH2wAFu-00692-00197530-00197916 that it's working actually checks to H4JdjH2wAFu-00693-00197917-00198054 make sure that you have the local the H4JdjH2wAFu-00694-00198055-00198357 latest package downloaded uh-huh and if H4JdjH2wAFu-00695-00198358-00198471 it's not downloaded then it'll go H4JdjH2wAFu-00696-00198472-00198645 download it and then just extracts the H4JdjH2wAFu-00697-00198646-00198753 kernel pieces to make sure that they H4JdjH2wAFu-00698-00198754-00198951 build against that current kernel it H4JdjH2wAFu-00699-00198952-00199095 fails from most of the time because H4JdjH2wAFu-00700-00199096-00199257 we're testing on rawhide in Nvidia does H4JdjH2wAFu-00701-00199258-00199470 a once a month release and only supports H4JdjH2wAFu-00702-00199471-00199648 release kernels so H4JdjH2wAFu-00703-00199649-00199825 it feels a lot but at least we know it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00704-00199826-00200004 failing and know it's coming so before H4JdjH2wAFu-00705-00200005-00200347 before rebase happens we can say this is H4JdjH2wAFu-00706-00200348-00200718 this is a concern H4JdjH2wAFu-00707-00200719-00201105 we know that people using so it would be H4JdjH2wAFu-00708-00201106-00201228 very easy to say all right we'll grab H4JdjH2wAFu-00709-00201229-00201408 all right now we have some subsets of H4JdjH2wAFu-00710-00201409-00201591 LTP and it would be easy to say all H4JdjH2wAFu-00711-00201592-00201741 right for people who want to run the H4JdjH2wAFu-00712-00201742-00203558 more extensive tests we grab all of LTP H4JdjH2wAFu-00713-00203559-00203889 we could throw that file in you know in H4JdjH2wAFu-00714-00203890-00204216 the test in the last week this difficult H4JdjH2wAFu-00715-00204217-00204636 to the crunchy users to run these check H4JdjH2wAFu-00716-00204637-00205002 out the test and now if you want to H4JdjH2wAFu-00717-00205003-00205362 actually submit if there's a config file H4JdjH2wAFu-00718-00205363-00205521 you'll have to say yes I want to submit H4JdjH2wAFu-00719-00205521-00205938 us authenticated and then there's a H4JdjH2wAFu-00720-00205939-00206103 couple of other like do you want to run H4JdjH2wAFu-00721-00206104-00206253 it we don't run the third-party module H4JdjH2wAFu-00722-00206254-00206475 which right now is just the Nvidia test H4JdjH2wAFu-00723-00206476-00206723 by default but if you change the fixes H4JdjH2wAFu-00724-00206725-00207167 it does that'll happen you know H4JdjH2wAFu-00725-00207169-00207387 obviously I'm sure a lot of information H4JdjH2wAFu-00726-00207388-00207575 you probably didn't realize for this is H4JdjH2wAFu-00727-00207576-00207756 where were you think to get this H4JdjH2wAFu-00728-00207757-00207960 information H4JdjH2wAFu-00729-00207961-00208281 to replace the colonel channel and IRC H4JdjH2wAFu-00730-00208282-00208500 get masks how I run tests I don't you H4JdjH2wAFu-00731-00208501-00208721 know I mean obviously there is a colonel H4JdjH2wAFu-00732-00208723-00209100 wiki page I use it when I need to H4JdjH2wAFu-00733-00209101-00209390 provide myself out of properly built H4JdjH2wAFu-00734-00209391-00209610 we've been at a link for how to test H4JdjH2wAFu-00735-00209611-00210040 kernels would that be useful in the H4JdjH2wAFu-00736-00210041-00210217 bottom of those there oh there's also H4JdjH2wAFu-00737-00210217-00210480 with the badge you know the actual badge H4JdjH2wAFu-00738-00210481-00211902 itself links back to you know this um we H4JdjH2wAFu-00739-00211903-00212098 should you guys announced maybe once H4JdjH2wAFu-00740-00212098-00212338 every six months hey are you yeah I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-00741-00212339-00212496 I guess we probably need to renounce it H4JdjH2wAFu-00742-00212498-00214002 we did like session sunblock with one H4JdjH2wAFu-00743-00214003-00214185 out there but if people aren't aware of H4JdjH2wAFu-00744-00214186-00214371 how easy this could be or how easy I H4JdjH2wAFu-00745-00214373-00215223 make it thing right well communication H4JdjH2wAFu-00746-00215223-00215569 no well right so they're of the ones H4JdjH2wAFu-00747-00215569-00215783 that are in there or not mix of answers H4JdjH2wAFu-00748-00215784-00216139 terrible if the ones that are in there H4JdjH2wAFu-00749-00216140-00216384 are not destructive if we have a better H4JdjH2wAFu-00750-00216385-00217094 directory for disruptive option H4JdjH2wAFu-00751-00217096-00217367 it's crystal oh yeah the distress that H4JdjH2wAFu-00752-00217369-00217590 you have to pass up like to run H4JdjH2wAFu-00753-00217591-00217706 disrupting tests but there aren't any H4JdjH2wAFu-00754-00217707-00218121 actual instruction testing this dress H4JdjH2wAFu-00755-00218121-00218329 has to H4JdjH2wAFu-00756-00218330-00218598 and asking for obvious reasons oh yes H4JdjH2wAFu-00757-00218600-00218800 making the last question for now lowers H4JdjH2wAFu-00758-00218801-00218932 got a couple of topics and if we get H4JdjH2wAFu-00759-00218933-00219096 through these we can come back you know H4JdjH2wAFu-00760-00219098-00219202 this has been a really good discussion H4JdjH2wAFu-00761-00219203-00221980 but I do okay pervert we can do them we H4JdjH2wAFu-00762-00221981-00222253 would want to wait until like f27 is H4JdjH2wAFu-00763-00222254-00222664 gonna be based on on 4:14 won't release H4JdjH2wAFu-00764-00222665-00222823 himself after so we've won already two H4JdjH2wAFu-00765-00222823-00223192 or thirteen H4JdjH2wAFu-00766-00223194-00223696 our c70 should be back I think in H4JdjH2wAFu-00767-00223698-00223838 general the interest is that yes this H4JdjH2wAFu-00768-00223839-00223988 sounds like a good idea I think we'll H4JdjH2wAFu-00769-00223989-00224185 have to find a good time to do since H4JdjH2wAFu-00770-00224186-00224346 that's a good subject H4JdjH2wAFu-00771-00224348-00225211 yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-00772-00225212-00225571 question H4JdjH2wAFu-00773-00225573-00226034 it sounds like that rawhide is expected H4JdjH2wAFu-00774-00226035-00226466 staging area H4JdjH2wAFu-00775-00226467-00227079 and that's expected H4JdjH2wAFu-00776-00227080-00227362 as we get rawhide and better states all H4JdjH2wAFu-00777-00227363-00227496 the other packages that would become H4JdjH2wAFu-00778-00227498-00227805 more thing right now I was just avoiding H4JdjH2wAFu-00779-00227806-00228004 heard someone's working on it though H4JdjH2wAFu-00780-00228005-00228523 yeah rawhide every night with open QA H4JdjH2wAFu-00781-00228523-00228727 and I'm sitting here thinking we'll just H4JdjH2wAFu-00782-00228728-00229294 add these SKT test or Ltd good so the H4JdjH2wAFu-00783-00229294-00229564 suggestion is that perhaps on the on the H4JdjH2wAFu-00784-00229565-00229936 where where we send people to suggest H4JdjH2wAFu-00785-00229937-00230221 them they can engage the Colonel testing H4JdjH2wAFu-00786-00230221-00230425 it was status law that says here's how H4JdjH2wAFu-00787-00230426-00230696 much of this Testament passing so far H4JdjH2wAFu-00788-00230696-00230923 is there some way of measuring progress H4JdjH2wAFu-00789-00230925-00231452 because if it is green like how is there H4JdjH2wAFu-00790-00231453-00232040 is there a subset of the test some way H4JdjH2wAFu-00791-00232041-00232217 of measuring progress sort of like how H4JdjH2wAFu-00792-00232217-00233237 the translators have this it depends on H4JdjH2wAFu-00793-00233238-00234158 how the test suite works just like a H4JdjH2wAFu-00794-00234159-00234356 chair the charity thermometer we want to H4JdjH2wAFu-00795-00234357-00234713 get 1000 tested I think that would H4JdjH2wAFu-00796-00234714-00234809 actually be better because one of the H4JdjH2wAFu-00797-00234810-00234989 problems we have it's like automated H4JdjH2wAFu-00798-00234990-00235267 testing it in VMs we don't have a right H4JdjH2wAFu-00799-00235269-00235478 that we have access to and so that's why H4JdjH2wAFu-00800-00235479-00235688 we want users running the test now it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00801-00235689-00235942 been a failure in that regard because we H4JdjH2wAFu-00802-00235944-00236117 don't have any Hardware specific tests H4JdjH2wAFu-00803-00236117-00236285 at this point where it's very easy to H4JdjH2wAFu-00804-00236286-00236498 write a test if you have a hardware to H4JdjH2wAFu-00805-00236498-00236675 check to have certain hardware to check H4JdjH2wAFu-00806-00236676-00236846 for specific things right H4JdjH2wAFu-00807-00236846-00237119 if this module exists and is loaded then H4JdjH2wAFu-00808-00237119-00237257 I'm gonna run this test if it doesn't H4JdjH2wAFu-00809-00237258-00237383 that I'm not and that way you can test H4JdjH2wAFu-00810-00237384-00237602 all sorts of various hardware that way H4JdjH2wAFu-00811-00237603-00237851 but the the idea is if we get people H4JdjH2wAFu-00812-00237852-00238079 running it and then we also end up H4JdjH2wAFu-00813-00238080-00238241 getting the test for a specific hardware H4JdjH2wAFu-00814-00238242-00238451 things specifically problematic hardware H4JdjH2wAFu-00815-00238452-00238946 then you get people with varying devices H4JdjH2wAFu-00816-00238946-00239096 they're running that test doing give me H4JdjH2wAFu-00817-00239096-00239267 feedback all right we are I know Boris H4JdjH2wAFu-00818-00239267-00239392 cousin Thomas do you mind if I cut this H4JdjH2wAFu-00819-00239394-00239573 off in this revisit there was two hour H4JdjH2wAFu-00820-00239573-00239957 sessions one hour two hour session but I H4JdjH2wAFu-00821-00239958-00240113 wasn't sure how long I mean we could H4JdjH2wAFu-00822-00240114-00240386 come back I don't want people falling H4JdjH2wAFu-00823-00240387-00240533 asleep over this stuff I mean how much H4JdjH2wAFu-00824-00240534-00240848 more people have one I could probably go H4JdjH2wAFu-00825-00240848-00241028 another 10 15 minutes before I'd like to H4JdjH2wAFu-00826-00241029-00241151 cut it off maybe Apple watch never H4JdjH2wAFu-00827-00241152-00241313 beyond mine is actually very now a H4JdjH2wAFu-00828-00241314-00241446 distance so we wanted to hit the H4JdjH2wAFu-00829-00241448-00241625 engagement we touched on a little bit H4JdjH2wAFu-00830-00241626-00241880 already H4JdjH2wAFu-00831-00241881-00242276 yeah we've got these tests supposedly in H4JdjH2wAFu-00832-00242277-00242558 some future or we're now getting results H4JdjH2wAFu-00833-00242559-00242828 we're seeing things failing it's an H4JdjH2wAFu-00834-00242829-00242999 impossible to test for you to to fix H4JdjH2wAFu-00835-00243000-00243149 them and so on try figure out do we have H4JdjH2wAFu-00836-00243150-00243515 any sort of kernel community in Fedora H4JdjH2wAFu-00837-00243516-00243683 that we can engage and get to fixing H4JdjH2wAFu-00838-00243684-00243821 these things or is that the wrong place H4JdjH2wAFu-00839-00243822-00244018 entirely we just go straight to upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-00840-00244019-00244697 somehow about this before and for H4JdjH2wAFu-00841-00244698-00244895 various reasons I think it's difficult H4JdjH2wAFu-00842-00244896-00245174 to try and engage the Fedora community H4JdjH2wAFu-00843-00245175-00245447 to actually get actually fix the bugs H4JdjH2wAFu-00844-00245448-00246095 for it for most generic I think this is H4JdjH2wAFu-00845-00246096-00246644 because the federal community is best at H4JdjH2wAFu-00846-00246645-00246890 I think reporting and testing on a wide H4JdjH2wAFu-00847-00246891-00247268 variety of hardware but I think kernel H4JdjH2wAFu-00848-00247269-00247559 development particulars covers such a H4JdjH2wAFu-00849-00247560-00247820 wide wide variety of areas it's hard to H4JdjH2wAFu-00850-00247821-00247967 be able to know where to begin H4JdjH2wAFu-00851-00247968-00248228 even for Justin like we do this is a H4JdjH2wAFu-00852-00248229-00248804 full-time job sometimes yes it's it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00853-00248805-00248981 it's early the skills that people can H4JdjH2wAFu-00854-00248982-00249131 acquire if iterative but again like you H4JdjH2wAFu-00855-00249132-00250684 said it's not easy so I think trying to H4JdjH2wAFu-00856-00250685-00250871 you know a handful of people in the H4JdjH2wAFu-00857-00250872-00251093 community that are not really fixing H4JdjH2wAFu-00858-00251094-00251291 arbitrary Starbucks or more of like a H4JdjH2wAFu-00859-00251292-00251528 finding piece of hardware they want to H4JdjH2wAFu-00860-00251529-00251693 enable or fix it get working and then H4JdjH2wAFu-00861-00251694-00251864 they'd spend all the time and push a H4JdjH2wAFu-00862-00251865-00252059 bunch of patches upstream and watch the H4JdjH2wAFu-00863-00252060-00252329 door from the back ported right I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-00864-00252330-00252716 thinking like we do see H4JdjH2wAFu-00865-00252717-00252866 I mean non red hat people in the H4JdjH2wAFu-00866-00252867-00253113 community who are you know testing H4JdjH2wAFu-00867-00253114-00253325 things all the time and do interact with H4JdjH2wAFu-00868-00253326-00253607 upstream one it's just it's a handful of H4JdjH2wAFu-00869-00253608-00253817 people but there are people who are H4JdjH2wAFu-00870-00253818-00254037 actually actively making the Fedora H4JdjH2wAFu-00871-00254038-00254282 kernels better on the community side H4JdjH2wAFu-00872-00254283-00254562 we'd like to see more of that one of the H4JdjH2wAFu-00873-00254563-00254771 biggest issues is triage H4JdjH2wAFu-00874-00254772-00255014 so we did a couple years ago several H4JdjH2wAFu-00875-00255015-00255332 years ago John wrote up a whole this is H4JdjH2wAFu-00876-00255333-00256046 the triage process and everyone snow H4JdjH2wAFu-00877-00256048-00256354 don't spend a couple weeks H4JdjH2wAFu-00878-00256355-00256552 and do it fantastic gentlemen they H4JdjH2wAFu-00879-00256553-00256825 disappear because it is the least sexy H4JdjH2wAFu-00880-00256826-00257148 thing I mean we we don't have a sexy job H4JdjH2wAFu-00881-00257150-00257467 so I remember you said exactly the same H4JdjH2wAFu-00882-00257467-00257662 thing two years ago in Rochester and I H4JdjH2wAFu-00883-00257663-00257833 went and tried to trade obviously five H4JdjH2wAFu-00884-00257834-00258046 bucks and it's the hardest thing it H4JdjH2wAFu-00885-00258046-00258364 really is yeah I mean it's not it's not H4JdjH2wAFu-00886-00258365-00258712 easy I mean so so even I wanted to H4JdjH2wAFu-00887-00258713-00258846 double checks on this is assumption on H4JdjH2wAFu-00888-00258848-00259117 me but even if someone did come in find H4JdjH2wAFu-00889-00259117-00259342 a bug that was open in Fedora and submit H4JdjH2wAFu-00890-00259342-00259651 a patch like your charter is pretty much H4JdjH2wAFu-00891-00259652-00259837 that that patch is going to have to be H4JdjH2wAFu-00892-00259838-00260050 accepted upstream at some point so at H4JdjH2wAFu-00893-00260051-00260298 that point either you have to do it or H4JdjH2wAFu-00894-00260300-00260673 or the patch just sits there and merge H4JdjH2wAFu-00895-00260673-00260932 well we're not going to merge something H4JdjH2wAFu-00896-00260933-00261121 that is not going to make it upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-00897-00261121-00261321 what bug fixes typically they're H4JdjH2wAFu-00898-00261323-00261580 submitted upstream will they will do one H4JdjH2wAFu-00899-00261581-00261817 of two things either they will accept H4JdjH2wAFu-00900-00261817-00262054 that and fix the bug in and it'll show H4JdjH2wAFu-00901-00262055-00262207 up in a tree unfortunately because of H4JdjH2wAFu-00902-00262208-00262417 some weird things in the way that the H4JdjH2wAFu-00903-00262418-00262636 extreme maintainer ship works it might H4JdjH2wAFu-00904-00262637-00262801 not show up in a real tree until the H4JdjH2wAFu-00905-00262802-00262930 next merge window and they give that H4JdjH2wAFu-00906-00262931-00263095 port it to a stable but H4JdjH2wAFu-00907-00263096-00263280 we know where it's going at that point H4JdjH2wAFu-00908-00263281-00263494 and we're happy to take the patch the H4JdjH2wAFu-00909-00263495-00263662 other thing that happens is you'll H4JdjH2wAFu-00910-00263663-00263914 you'll submit a fix and yes it fixes an H4JdjH2wAFu-00911-00263915-00264121 actual problem but the maintainer says I H4JdjH2wAFu-00912-00264122-00264253 don't like the way that this is fixed I H4JdjH2wAFu-00913-00264254-00264418 would rather do it this way I had H4JdjH2wAFu-00914-00264419-00264756 something else in life and in that case H4JdjH2wAFu-00915-00264757-00265021 a lot of times this will take the patch H4JdjH2wAFu-00916-00265022-00265185 because what they're doing is actually a H4JdjH2wAFu-00917-00265186-00265351 rework that something's not going to be H4JdjH2wAFu-00918-00265352-00265540 backward into stable but we take the H4JdjH2wAFu-00919-00265541-00265707 patch but the you know this is going to H4JdjH2wAFu-00920-00265708-00265873 be fixing it in really different way H4JdjH2wAFu-00921-00265874-00266272 next virtually as long as it's something H4JdjH2wAFu-00922-00266273-00266473 that's going to be upstream that's fine H4JdjH2wAFu-00923-00266474-00266706 yeah I mean that's been my experience to H4JdjH2wAFu-00924-00266707-00267342 I have worked through one one doing some H4JdjH2wAFu-00925-00267343-00267651 control the tape library got broken and H4JdjH2wAFu-00926-00267652-00267957 so I've never really done this stuff H4JdjH2wAFu-00927-00267958-00268150 before and I learned how to do I mean I H4JdjH2wAFu-00928-00268151-00268324 didn't fix the bugs myself but I learned H4JdjH2wAFu-00929-00268325-00268471 to get enough information that I could H4JdjH2wAFu-00930-00268472-00268714 get with upstream in the NFS bug case it H4JdjH2wAFu-00931-00268715-00268927 was already fixed in one of the trees H4JdjH2wAFu-00932-00268928-00269137 that was destined for the next murder H4JdjH2wAFu-00933-00269138-00269404 window and that just had to filter its H4JdjH2wAFu-00934-00269405-00269583 way back down and then the other case H4JdjH2wAFu-00935-00269584-00269690 you know H4JdjH2wAFu-00936-00269691-00269999 I mean I found where the three days - H4JdjH2wAFu-00937-00270000-00270281 bisected server hardware is terrible to H4JdjH2wAFu-00938-00270282-00270473 reboot constantly but eventually I found H4JdjH2wAFu-00939-00270474-00270707 the commit that broken and trace that H4JdjH2wAFu-00940-00270708-00270881 back to upstream is actually once you H4JdjH2wAFu-00941-00270882-00271043 have all the it information it's not H4JdjH2wAFu-00942-00271044-00271253 hard to find these thing it's just H4JdjH2wAFu-00943-00271254-00271589 there's so much procedure and so many H4JdjH2wAFu-00944-00271590-00271850 kernel recompiles it takes so long to do H4JdjH2wAFu-00945-00271851-00272159 and it cool to help do that right you H4JdjH2wAFu-00946-00272160-00272522 know I mean perhaps I don't know I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-00947-00272523-00272735 there was a continuous integration for H4JdjH2wAFu-00948-00272736-00273068 obscure somebody the DeLorean things H4JdjH2wAFu-00949-00273069-00273205 somebody was talking about yesterday H4JdjH2wAFu-00950-00273206-00273614 that basically gives you at every commit H4JdjH2wAFu-00951-00273615-00273872 point a downloadable package that you H4JdjH2wAFu-00952-00273873-00274127 can then test so you don't as a user H4JdjH2wAFu-00953-00274128-00274361 just wanting to test these things out H4JdjH2wAFu-00954-00274362-00274766 you can bisect by rpm not by and what we H4JdjH2wAFu-00955-00274767-00274943 do in cut me the kernel it would just be H4JdjH2wAFu-00956-00274944-00275294 impossible right but you know I pull the H4JdjH2wAFu-00957-00275295-00275564 daily get bill H4JdjH2wAFu-00958-00275565-00275801 gives me enough information to get to H4JdjH2wAFu-00959-00275802-00275972 buy sick points so that I only had to H4JdjH2wAFu-00960-00275973-00276332 compile my own current and your tape H4JdjH2wAFu-00961-00276333-00276569 read because of the work you did in H4JdjH2wAFu-00962-00276570-00276746 working with with this guy or this guy H4JdjH2wAFu-00963-00276747-00276857 the issue with the tape drive down H4JdjH2wAFu-00964-00276858-00277019 because of the work you did in working H4JdjH2wAFu-00965-00277020-00277136 with the maintainer is up streaming H4JdjH2wAFu-00966-00277137-00277349 getting that fixed right we had to fix H4JdjH2wAFu-00967-00277350-00277472 out before we even try to push the H4JdjH2wAFu-00968-00277473-00277655 relays right so you saved anybody else H4JdjH2wAFu-00969-00277656-00277799 from ever seeing that from you but not H4JdjH2wAFu-00970-00277800-00278003 did anybody would they they may or may H4JdjH2wAFu-00971-00278004-00278165 not have a note of it we don't know what H4JdjH2wAFu-00972-00278166-00278297 hard work people have unfortunately H4JdjH2wAFu-00973-00278298-00278477 there used to be a tool they would H4JdjH2wAFu-00974-00278478-00278597 collect that information you could opt H4JdjH2wAFu-00975-00278598-00278693 into yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-00976-00278694-00278816 and that went away and there was H4JdjH2wAFu-00977-00278817-00278972 supposed to be a replacement someone H4JdjH2wAFu-00978-00278973-00279233 talked about it but gone and that was H4JdjH2wAFu-00979-00279234-00279293 years ago H4JdjH2wAFu-00980-00279294-00280100 that was theirs but there's been no H4JdjH2wAFu-00981-00280101-00280298 replacement so it is you know a lot of H4JdjH2wAFu-00982-00280299-00280424 these things it is hard for us to say H4JdjH2wAFu-00983-00280425-00280574 what everybody's running on because H4JdjH2wAFu-00984-00280575-00280796 unless someone files a bug right or H4JdjH2wAFu-00985-00280797-00280937 yells we don't really know other than H4JdjH2wAFu-00986-00280938-00281140 through this little bitty check-in thing H4JdjH2wAFu-00987-00281141-00281490 for art H4JdjH2wAFu-00988-00281491-00281628 we've been using that for Beeker how we H4JdjH2wAFu-00989-00281629-00281889 use the LS h w2 scanner machine to H4JdjH2wAFu-00990-00281890-00282045 figure out what hardwoods on there we H4JdjH2wAFu-00991-00282046-00282807 uploaded for a database yes well if it's H4JdjH2wAFu-00992-00282808-00282978 opt-in yeah what do you run it but H4JdjH2wAFu-00993-00282979-00283194 somebody alright especially if i've got H4JdjH2wAFu-00994-00283195-00283371 the weird hardware that i want to make H4JdjH2wAFu-00995-00283372-00283605 sure doesn't disappear right then i have H4JdjH2wAFu-00996-00283606-00283803 an incentive to run as long as i know it H4JdjH2wAFu-00997-00283804-00284055 exists I did run small but yeah now we H4JdjH2wAFu-00998-00284056-00284439 do get you know we can look at the maybe H4JdjH2wAFu-00999-00284440-00284613 RT reports the trace backs and say H4JdjH2wAFu-01000-00284614-00284733 alright well yes a lot of people are H4JdjH2wAFu-01001-00284734-00285219 running with this hardware but I mean I H4JdjH2wAFu-01002-00285220-00285621 found a B or T to be enormous e for the H4JdjH2wAFu-01003-00285622-00285801 kernel in particular this is not to say H4JdjH2wAFu-01004-00285802-00286023 the avrt is not easy tool but I think H4JdjH2wAFu-01005-00286024-00286274 for the way the kernel ends up going H4JdjH2wAFu-01006-00286275-00286530 it's by the time we actually collect H4JdjH2wAFu-01007-00286531-00286896 enough data points to figure out exactly H4JdjH2wAFu-01008-00286897-00287103 if Lumbees forward specific relevant we H4JdjH2wAFu-01009-00287104-00287334 should fix then we're mostly on through H4JdjH2wAFu-01010-00287335-00287454 new criminal work they've already been H4JdjH2wAFu-01011-00287455-00287661 fixed to the latest version yeah hey H4JdjH2wAFu-01012-00287662-00287790 maybe Ortiz actually very interesting H4JdjH2wAFu-01013-00287791-00287886 closure because the thing I was H4JdjH2wAFu-01014-00287887-00288030 wondering about it seems to me if we add H4JdjH2wAFu-01015-00288031-00288318 all this automation it up until you H4JdjH2wAFu-01016-00288319-00288534 dimension avrt it felt like a lot of the H4JdjH2wAFu-01017-00288535-00288774 data that we got back was very artisanal H4JdjH2wAFu-01018-00288775-00289011 it just kind of like somebody's H4JdjH2wAFu-01019-00289012-00289191 somebody's got the weird hardware I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01020-00289192-00289374 gonna run - kernel test suite if I have H4JdjH2wAFu-01021-00289375-00289539 to know about it or I'll log in and open H4JdjH2wAFu-01022-00289540-00289743 a bug whereas if we're gonna be starting H4JdjH2wAFu-01023-00289744-00289845 and generating a bunch of tests H4JdjH2wAFu-01024-00289846-00289986 internally and other CI tennis H4JdjH2wAFu-01025-00289987-00290295 externally my concern was you know how H4JdjH2wAFu-01026-00290296-00290520 that I assume that the impact of that is H4JdjH2wAFu-01027-00290521-00290676 that many more bugs are gonna be opened H4JdjH2wAFu-01028-00290677-00290820 up streams as well it's like if I'm on H4JdjH2wAFu-01029-00290821-00291009 if I'm if I'm not involved with redhead H4JdjH2wAFu-01030-00291010-00291168 at all they're on the kernel maintainer H4JdjH2wAFu-01031-00291169-00291384 presumably the odds of my seeing some H4JdjH2wAFu-01032-00291385-00291722 sort of bug from court H4JdjH2wAFu-01033-00291723-00291902 is increased like we're gonna find more H4JdjH2wAFu-01034-00291903-00292115 bugs but then but then you mention AVR H4JdjH2wAFu-01035-00292116-00292534 Tina seems like it is a br te like just H4JdjH2wAFu-01036-00292535-00292673 generating noise at this point or is it H4JdjH2wAFu-01037-00292674-00292808 actually do you guys follow with those H4JdjH2wAFu-01038-00292809-00292988 and file bugs upstream would you even H4JdjH2wAFu-01039-00292989-00293183 know what to file I don't remember there H4JdjH2wAFu-01040-00293184-00293384 are some filters there's some things H4JdjH2wAFu-01041-00293385-00293560 that we can pull throughout a lot of the H4JdjH2wAFu-01042-00293561-00293944 ones you'll see though are things like H4JdjH2wAFu-01043-00293945-00294234 out of pre drivers H4JdjH2wAFu-01044-00294235-00294605 things like that that they're useless H4JdjH2wAFu-01045-00294606-00295089 stuff I was trying to follow it for a H4JdjH2wAFu-01046-00295090-00295518 while but I gave up because it was I was H4JdjH2wAFu-01047-00295519-00295677 not finding buttons where I could H4JdjH2wAFu-01048-00295678-00295959 actually take action on sometimes what H4JdjH2wAFu-01049-00295960-00296160 happened is is that because the kernel H4JdjH2wAFu-01050-00296161-00296268 doesn't move so quickly H4JdjH2wAFu-01051-00296269-00296517 they'd find bugs people were still H4JdjH2wAFu-01052-00296518-00296667 running versions that we're still out of H4JdjH2wAFu-01053-00296668-00296844 date but abort was still in the air he H4JdjH2wAFu-01054-00296845-00297303 was still reporting them we got a common H4JdjH2wAFu-01055-00297304-00297663 one was graphics back traces graphics is H4JdjH2wAFu-01056-00297664-00297915 handled by the dedicated Red Hat team H4JdjH2wAFu-01057-00297916-00298119 that's a very good job but there also H4JdjH2wAFu-01058-00298120-00298302 have their own stuff so sometimes those H4JdjH2wAFu-01059-00298303-00298449 bugs tend to stick around for a little H4JdjH2wAFu-01060-00298450-00298929 longer so I was not finding a good use H4JdjH2wAFu-01061-00298930-00299070 of my time to try and follow it now I H4JdjH2wAFu-01062-00299071-00299190 haven't actually checked on it in a H4JdjH2wAFu-01063-00299191-00299486 while so maybe things have changed but H4JdjH2wAFu-01064-00299487-00300186 it's do you think the process that Don H4JdjH2wAFu-01065-00300187-00300357 is proposing do you think it's going to H4JdjH2wAFu-01066-00300358-00300642 generate a similar amount of noise to H4JdjH2wAFu-01067-00300643-00300831 avrt or do you think it's going to be a H4JdjH2wAFu-01068-00300832-00301299 higher-quality save information I think H4JdjH2wAFu-01069-00301300-00301566 it's going to be higher quality abrt H4JdjH2wAFu-01070-00301567-00301884 tends to grab any sort of warning any H4JdjH2wAFu-01071-00301885-00302097 that comes up which is okay but on the H4JdjH2wAFu-01072-00302098-00302332 other hand this means that your H4JdjH2wAFu-01073-00302333-00302485 we tend to get warnings for things like H4JdjH2wAFu-01074-00302486-00302785 Wi-Fi driver timed out because it's got H4JdjH2wAFu-01075-00302786-00302965 a mismatched firmware your graphics H4JdjH2wAFu-01076-00302966-00303208 driver behind up because something H4JdjH2wAFu-01077-00303209-00303622 whatever where is I say that have been H4JdjH2wAFu-01078-00303623-00303817 talked about before have been vetted and H4JdjH2wAFu-01079-00303818-00304047 so therefore I think they're likely to H4JdjH2wAFu-01080-00304048-00304258 generate something we can actually take H4JdjH2wAFu-01081-00304259-00304453 action on we actually even had that H4JdjH2wAFu-01082-00304454-00304621 we're hearing a couple of patches and H4JdjH2wAFu-01083-00304622-00304747 the kernel on doesn't fix all of them H4JdjH2wAFu-01084-00304748-00304987 for essentially turning off warnings H4JdjH2wAFu-01085-00304988-00305176 that upstream has said we want to keep H4JdjH2wAFu-01086-00305177-00305365 those warnings on because we want to to H4JdjH2wAFu-01087-00305366-00305626 know that this is happening but the end H4JdjH2wAFu-01088-00305627-00305824 user doesn't need to know and doesn't H4JdjH2wAFu-01089-00305825-00305983 care because it doesn't actually impact H4JdjH2wAFu-01090-00305984-00306250 their do today does show up in a BRT H4JdjH2wAFu-01091-00306251-00306508 yeah it shows up in a BRT so we found a H4JdjH2wAFu-01092-00306509-00306922 few of those but that's only a couple so H4JdjH2wAFu-01093-00306923-00307099 yeah it's expected behavior the H4JdjH2wAFu-01094-00307100-00307246 developers over they don't want the H4JdjH2wAFu-01095-00307247-00307447 warning to go away the user wouldn't H4JdjH2wAFu-01096-00307448-00307660 even know about it H4JdjH2wAFu-01097-00307661-00307987 I think you have hit on a problem though H4JdjH2wAFu-01098-00307988-00308113 in terms of things we've seen the H4JdjH2wAFu-01099-00308114-00308365 colonel's is that if typically if anyone H4JdjH2wAFu-01100-00308366-00308599 sees anything that's just says error in H4JdjH2wAFu-01101-00308600-00308779 the kernel they want to report it which H4JdjH2wAFu-01102-00308780-00309010 the problem is that sometimes there's H4JdjH2wAFu-01103-00309011-00309277 are innocuous errors I think a good H4JdjH2wAFu-01104-00309278-00309583 example is they didn't upgrade of the H4JdjH2wAFu-01105-00309584-00309826 CPI table parsing code and that's been H4JdjH2wAFu-01106-00309827-00310102 generating some warnings and I think H4JdjH2wAFu-01107-00310103-00310285 this is because there's a slight H4JdjH2wAFu-01108-00310286-00310645 mismatch between the a CPI table person H4JdjH2wAFu-01109-00310646-00310882 code and whatever a CPI tables there are H4JdjH2wAFu-01110-00310883-00311026 so this is not something that actually H4JdjH2wAFu-01111-00311027-00311248 causes the problem but because users see H4JdjH2wAFu-01112-00311249-00311715 it as a warning they want a report H4JdjH2wAFu-01113-00311716-00311953 because we see that on the road side as H4JdjH2wAFu-01114-00311954-00312076 well we didn't we get hardware H4JdjH2wAFu-01115-00312077-00312382 preferences you have actual money spent H4JdjH2wAFu-01116-00312383-00312622 dealing with customers who report that H4JdjH2wAFu-01117-00312623-00312871 as a above that they're seeing and H4JdjH2wAFu-01118-00312872-00312967 they're thinking it's causing their H4JdjH2wAFu-01119-00312968-00313228 problems on where it's not but they H4JdjH2wAFu-01120-00313229-00313447 think it is it costs money to deal with H4JdjH2wAFu-01121-00313448-00313821 you know it's the picture that mounted H4JdjH2wAFu-01122-00313822-00314263 the dump like the number further kernel H4JdjH2wAFu-01123-00314264-00314771 related H4JdjH2wAFu-01124-00314772-00315458 i someone come in clear bugzilla across H4JdjH2wAFu-01125-00315459-00315797 all releases probably just under a H4JdjH2wAFu-01126-00315798-00316208 hundred Bugzilla now the thing is a BRT H4JdjH2wAFu-01127-00316209-00316397 is smart enough to not open a bug on one H4JdjH2wAFu-01128-00316398-00316550 of the dirty open to bug around so the H4JdjH2wAFu-01129-00316551-00316787 avrt reports going up into the the H4JdjH2wAFu-01130-00316788-00318141 server H4JdjH2wAFu-01131-00318142-00318384 this is an area where we could apply H4JdjH2wAFu-01132-00318385-00318697 some unsupervised classification so you H4JdjH2wAFu-01133-00318698-00318957 get a highlight like a bug gum biggest H4JdjH2wAFu-01134-00318958-00319141 thing that people are running into and H4JdjH2wAFu-01135-00319142-00319429 if you dismiss it with you it doesn't H4JdjH2wAFu-01136-00319430-00319533 really matter at the future it's a H4JdjH2wAFu-01137-00319534-00319720 warning it's the right thing we start H4JdjH2wAFu-01138-00319721-00319860 actually teaching him chief it go H4JdjH2wAFu-01139-00319861-00320122 through the avrt stuff and actually make H4JdjH2wAFu-01140-00320123-00320365 it values there's a problem with that H4JdjH2wAFu-01141-00320366-00320646 though because you're assuming that H4JdjH2wAFu-01142-00320647-00321471 people won't be running somewhere H4JdjH2wAFu-01143-00321472-00321802 machines I'll generate that same warning H4JdjH2wAFu-01144-00321803-00322218 and that's gonna offset so as you as you H4JdjH2wAFu-01145-00322219-00322441 one of the interesting things that you H4JdjH2wAFu-01146-00322442-00323132 do H4JdjH2wAFu-01147-00323133-00323438 that's right there that this starts to H4JdjH2wAFu-01148-00323439-00323654 learn about that and starts to see if H4JdjH2wAFu-01149-00323655-00323831 you see a big jump all of a sudden H4JdjH2wAFu-01150-00323832-00324098 hundred instances or thousand sister of H4JdjH2wAFu-01151-00324099-00324323 this then you start to okay maybe that's H4JdjH2wAFu-01152-00324324-00324485 worth investigating you get some actual H4JdjH2wAFu-01153-00324486-00324632 feedback you can actually use that data H4JdjH2wAFu-01154-00324633-00324866 right now it just seems like useless all H4JdjH2wAFu-01155-00324867-00325088 the saying every warning is treated the H4JdjH2wAFu-01156-00325089-00325366 same as a crash H4JdjH2wAFu-01157-00325367-00325742 whereas if we actually teach put it into H4JdjH2wAFu-01158-00325743-00325934 something like that structured like now H4JdjH2wAFu-01159-00325935-00326111 the amount of data that we're talking H4JdjH2wAFu-01160-00326112-00326312 about let's say a hundred bucks is 100 H4JdjH2wAFu-01161-00326313-00326612 different unique things for fun I don't H4JdjH2wAFu-01162-00326613-00326861 know if you bump that up an order of H4JdjH2wAFu-01163-00326862-00327008 magnitude to say that number instances H4JdjH2wAFu-01164-00327009-00327194 that's that's a low for machine running H4JdjH2wAFu-01165-00327195-00327551 say so there's a challenge there but but H4JdjH2wAFu-01166-00327552-00327797 yeah if especially if we if we do if H4JdjH2wAFu-01167-00327798-00327959 we're able to take advantage of more H4JdjH2wAFu-01168-00327960-00328393 data like that definitely H4JdjH2wAFu-01169-00328394-00328645 well so that's it becomes useful that's H4JdjH2wAFu-01170-00328646-00328795 the difference between Bugzilla though H4JdjH2wAFu-01171-00328796-00329127 and me the retrace server the actual H4JdjH2wAFu-01172-00329128-00329338 server that supports I can see H4JdjH2wAFu-01173-00329339-00329727 quantities there okay so if Bugzilla has H4JdjH2wAFu-01174-00329728-00330790 this ones what percentage of the a/b our H4JdjH2wAFu-01175-00330791-00331443 team reports are actual real versus H4JdjH2wAFu-01176-00331444-00331716 do you even know we have just off the H4JdjH2wAFu-01177-00331717-00331910 top of your head it's not an actual I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01178-00331911-00332405 not holding it just five ball I honestly H4JdjH2wAFu-01179-00332406-00332528 have no idea because I haven't looked at H4JdjH2wAFu-01180-00332529-00332855 in a while you may look at them it's H4JdjH2wAFu-01181-00332856-00333015 very hard to quantify the over two H4JdjH2wAFu-01182-00333016-00333363 reasons one is you'll have a user that H4JdjH2wAFu-01183-00333364-00333653 files the bug because abrt prompts him H4JdjH2wAFu-01184-00333654-00333942 to do so and then they disappear so we H4JdjH2wAFu-01185-00333943-00334077 don't know if they ever saw it again or H4JdjH2wAFu-01186-00334078-00334355 if it was just let me ask you this in a H4JdjH2wAFu-01187-00334356-00334604 different way we have a lot of splats H4JdjH2wAFu-01188-00334605-00335537 and warnings that come out of because H4JdjH2wAFu-01189-00335538-00336266 you guys see it says this is because H4JdjH2wAFu-01190-00336267-00336542 okay I didn't know if that was causing H4JdjH2wAFu-01191-00336543-00336998 you probably say there was a while when H4JdjH2wAFu-01192-00336999-00337163 we were getting a lot of warnings which H4JdjH2wAFu-01193-00337164-00337874 is which even the warning said basically H4JdjH2wAFu-01194-00337875-00338080 saying this is Corliss saying this is H4JdjH2wAFu-01195-00338081-00339263 annoyingly so there's a bug right now H4JdjH2wAFu-01196-00339264-00340002 and the way that we were parsing H4JdjH2wAFu-01197-00340003-00340390 from H4JdjH2wAFu-01198-00340391-00340723 am I who's that is running on laptops H4JdjH2wAFu-01199-00340724-00341041 with hyper graphics and what happens you H4JdjH2wAFu-01200-00341042-00341299 could get into the way power state works H4JdjH2wAFu-01201-00341300-00341876 you can do an LS PC on crashing machine H4JdjH2wAFu-01202-00341877-00342639 right so yeah well I found out about it H4JdjH2wAFu-01203-00342640-00342831 yesterday because we had a lot I was H4JdjH2wAFu-01204-00342832-00342984 locking up and the guy didn't know why H4JdjH2wAFu-01205-00342985-00343110 and he said it went away when I switched H4JdjH2wAFu-01206-00343111-00343278 in video binary drivers and what do you H4JdjH2wAFu-01207-00343279-00343628 do he had his laptop forced to use H4JdjH2wAFu-01208-00343629-00343956 Nvidia only at that point well since H4JdjH2wAFu-01209-00343957-00344145 then it disabled behind at 15 he didn't H4JdjH2wAFu-01210-00344146-00344334 have a graphic same florida so we spent H4JdjH2wAFu-01211-00344335-00344421 a little bit of time to bugging i H4JdjH2wAFu-01212-00344422-00344601 started looking and there's a there's a H4JdjH2wAFu-01213-00344602-00344826 bug on chrome or how do we handle this H4JdjH2wAFu-01214-00344827-00345096 and the problem is it's not just this H4JdjH2wAFu-01215-00345097-00345849 one HP laptop its HP asus dell msi and a H4JdjH2wAFu-01216-00345850-00346218 few other models and the workaround that H4JdjH2wAFu-01217-00346219-00346499 works for different people which was H4JdjH2wAFu-01218-00346500-00346878 over 2009 was the right fix for this H4JdjH2wAFu-01219-00346879-00346981 people H4JdjH2wAFu-01220-00346982-00347317 we're - mm now for others it's just not H4JdjH2wAFu-01221-00347318-00347418 50 H4JdjH2wAFu-01222-00347419-00347701 yeah I get it H4JdjH2wAFu-01223-00347702-00347887 but it's all it's all based on the same H4JdjH2wAFu-01224-00347888-00348034 bug and it just depends on how it was H4JdjH2wAFu-01225-00348035-00348196 implemented inside them particularly H4JdjH2wAFu-01226-00348197-00348535 from that so I can't it I want to draw a H4JdjH2wAFu-01227-00348536-00348829 picture away is that we're dealing with H4JdjH2wAFu-01228-00348830-00348973 it I just realize we're dealing with the H4JdjH2wAFu-01229-00348974-00349948 phone so as it is we've got something H4JdjH2wAFu-01230-00349949-00350248 that looks roughly like this that comes H4JdjH2wAFu-01231-00350249-00350716 in and links down at the bottom and H4JdjH2wAFu-01232-00350717-00350905 basically somewhere in here is where H4JdjH2wAFu-01233-00350906-00351417 upstream Evans H4JdjH2wAFu-01234-00351418-00351705 somewhere in here is where the Fedora H4JdjH2wAFu-01235-00351706-00352262 kernel is H4JdjH2wAFu-01236-00352263-00352480 somewhere up here is just the reported H4JdjH2wAFu-01237-00352481-00352793 bugs that come in so it's like this just H4JdjH2wAFu-01238-00352794-00353304 by zone H4JdjH2wAFu-01239-00353305-00353493 and then up here we've got a few H4JdjH2wAFu-01240-00353494-00353682 different classes of things that are H4JdjH2wAFu-01241-00353683-00353943 going on one is the artisanal reports H4JdjH2wAFu-01242-00353944-00354105 that come in somebody reported human H4JdjH2wAFu-01243-00354106-00354768 being reports about the spoke reports a H4JdjH2wAFu-01244-00354769-00355845 bug in there we have a BRT H4JdjH2wAFu-01245-00355846-00356115 reports bugs here this is largely being H4JdjH2wAFu-01246-00356116-00356279 ignored right now it sounds like because H4JdjH2wAFu-01247-00356280-00356538 it's just very low-quality bug there's H4JdjH2wAFu-01248-00356539-00356673 not much we can do it I mean sometimes H4JdjH2wAFu-01249-00356674-00356903 if it's something that a lot of people H4JdjH2wAFu-01250-00356904-00357222 are hitting and we ask for more H4JdjH2wAFu-01251-00357223-00358133 information and they respond yeah I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-01252-00358134-00358352 some water hose if one month you've H4JdjH2wAFu-01253-00358353-00358454 suddenly got an order of magnitude H4JdjH2wAFu-01254-00358455-00358899 increase in abrt things so then I guess H4JdjH2wAFu-01255-00358900-00359025 and then I guess we have we have two H4JdjH2wAFu-01256-00359026-00359250 others in here one is this new pipeline H4JdjH2wAFu-01257-00359251-00359400 that we're talking about new H4JdjH2wAFu-01258-00359401-00359630 he said LPT I don't really know what to H4JdjH2wAFu-01259-00359631-00359991 call this though like the I guess I'll H4JdjH2wAFu-01260-00359992-00360369 say SAT and includes the LPT test and H4JdjH2wAFu-01261-00360370-00361089 LTP and other stuff too and then this H4JdjH2wAFu-01262-00361090-00362538 one was the you already have what's the H4JdjH2wAFu-01263-00362539-00362739 and it's going in here so at the very H4JdjH2wAFu-01264-00362740-00362984 start at the top of the funnel we have H4JdjH2wAFu-01265-00362985-00363158 all this we have a lot of stuff coming H4JdjH2wAFu-01266-00363159-00363366 in and depending on what happens here H4JdjH2wAFu-01267-00363367-00363720 and here and here even this probably H4JdjH2wAFu-01268-00363721-00363875 seems like a much smaller number to me H4JdjH2wAFu-01269-00363876-00364055 like an actual physical person but it's H4JdjH2wAFu-01270-00364056-00364250 also the highest quality actually I H4JdjH2wAFu-01271-00364251-00364355 think you're gonna see a much larger H4JdjH2wAFu-01272-00364356-00364769 number they're still ignoring a BRT H4JdjH2wAFu-01273-00364770-00364979 compared to the automated test and the H4JdjH2wAFu-01274-00364980-00365210 reason is the automated test suites are H4JdjH2wAFu-01275-00365211-00365514 not running on near the variety Park or H4JdjH2wAFu-01276-00365515-00366018 that in users right there are thousands H4JdjH2wAFu-01277-00366019-00367082 of models we realized that one time a H4JdjH2wAFu-01278-00367083-00367242 few years ago that there was a whole H4JdjH2wAFu-01279-00367243-00367590 class of laptops that was made to hit a H4JdjH2wAFu-01280-00367591-00368084 certain price point dad after like six H4JdjH2wAFu-01281-00368085-00368330 months of use they couldn't keep up with H4JdjH2wAFu-01282-00368331-00368600 the thermal demands me more because they H4JdjH2wAFu-01283-00368601-00368792 thank you that could be a field in H4JdjH2wAFu-01284-00368793-00369218 Bugzilla how much did you realize it H4JdjH2wAFu-01285-00369219-00369487 came down to just these few models and H4JdjH2wAFu-01286-00369488-00370271 it was thermal issues I'm sure yeah so H4JdjH2wAFu-01287-00370272-00370355 and then that's come where I'm getting H4JdjH2wAFu-01288-00370356-00370580 into because this is a mix of this is H4JdjH2wAFu-01289-00370581-00370748 this this is a human input but it's not H4JdjH2wAFu-01290-00370749-00370922 us necessarily this isn't coming from H4JdjH2wAFu-01291-00370923-00371129 episode we've got SKT which in theory H4JdjH2wAFu-01292-00371130-00371423 over time this probably grows a little H4JdjH2wAFu-01293-00371424-00371591 bit is we had more test size so we're H4JdjH2wAFu-01294-00371592-00371918 going to find more bones this one here H4JdjH2wAFu-01295-00371919-00372065 also grows over time as we get more H4JdjH2wAFu-01296-00372066-00372290 users and as does this and so the phone H4JdjH2wAFu-01297-00372291-00372491 gets bigger and my big concern is what H4JdjH2wAFu-01298-00372492-00372749 happens basically in between here H4JdjH2wAFu-01299-00372750-00372934 because we've got two people right now H4JdjH2wAFu-01300-00372935-00373157 we're gonna triage all of this stuff H4JdjH2wAFu-01301-00373158-00373301 this goes back this really goes back to H4JdjH2wAFu-01302-00373302-00373529 the triage question because if the goal H4JdjH2wAFu-01303-00373530-00373709 of this if very very few bucks are gonna H4JdjH2wAFu-01304-00373710-00373856 be fixed here most of them are going to H4JdjH2wAFu-01305-00373857-00373963 make it all the way to upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-01306-00373964-00374183 hopefully get fixed by somebody else H4JdjH2wAFu-01307-00374184-00374327 in a reasonable amount of time and then H4JdjH2wAFu-01308-00374328-00374567 they get sent out to the world and so my H4JdjH2wAFu-01309-00374568-00374804 question is if we greatly increase H4JdjH2wAFu-01310-00374805-00375248 automation here that seems like it's H4JdjH2wAFu-01311-00375249-00375389 gonna also greatly increase the amount H4JdjH2wAFu-01312-00375390-00375584 of bugs that get tested here and so like H4JdjH2wAFu-01313-00375585-00375746 what I guess the question then goes to H4JdjH2wAFu-01314-00375747-00375845 me it seems like we're going to have a H4JdjH2wAFu-01315-00375846-00376019 triage problem and we may already have H4JdjH2wAFu-01316-00376020-00376219 that today so I think one of the things H4JdjH2wAFu-01317-00376220-00376458 when you H4JdjH2wAFu-01318-00376459-00376785 upstream down the bottom in SKT is going H4JdjH2wAFu-01319-00376786-00377085 to you also feed indirectly there if you H4JdjH2wAFu-01320-00377086-00377295 I pass the whole tunnel and go straight H4JdjH2wAFu-01321-00377296-00378755 up so it's going to do though yes H4JdjH2wAFu-01322-00378756-00379002 convinced it upstream a month goes by H4JdjH2wAFu-01323-00379003-00379242 and it's merged in and also there's an H4JdjH2wAFu-01324-00379243-00379386 issue he's on to something else H4JdjH2wAFu-01325-00379387-00379898 it's a context switching it's problem so H4JdjH2wAFu-01326-00379899-00380685 the more well solves parts of it because H4JdjH2wAFu-01327-00380686-00380967 in theory if I mean maybe we can we H4JdjH2wAFu-01328-00380968-00381141 haven't we haven't fully connected the H4JdjH2wAFu-01329-00381142-00381372 dots between SKT and in actual bugzilla H4JdjH2wAFu-01330-00381373-00381573 probably feeling we've got it SKT going H4JdjH2wAFu-01331-00381574-00381714 into some sort of results set that will H4JdjH2wAFu-01332-00381715-00381822 be reviewed right H4JdjH2wAFu-01333-00381823-00382080 and I feels like at a minimum if that H4JdjH2wAFu-01334-00382081-00382269 results is also going here it's mostly a H4JdjH2wAFu-01335-00382270-00382410 matter of waiting for upstream to fix it H4JdjH2wAFu-01336-00382411-00382680 and then right so the goal is to win SKT H4JdjH2wAFu-01337-00382681-00382947 is run because it's run on Loomis's tree H4JdjH2wAFu-01338-00382948-00383226 and it also be run on on next trees H4JdjH2wAFu-01339-00383227-00383367 before they can get to lanessa street H4JdjH2wAFu-01340-00383368-00383624 the idea is yes sk team might be H4JdjH2wAFu-01341-00383625-00383958 generating more data but the number from H4JdjH2wAFu-01342-00383959-00384228 people your artisanal bugs and your abrt H4JdjH2wAFu-01343-00384229-00384336 bugs should actually go down H4JdjH2wAFu-01344-00384337-00384603 considerably because those bugs never H4JdjH2wAFu-01345-00384604-00384888 actually make it to a shipping door H4JdjH2wAFu-01346-00384889-00384996 the other thing is I think the funds H4JdjH2wAFu-01347-00384997-00385164 that we bill get will be much more H4JdjH2wAFu-01348-00385165-00385419 actionable and concrete just because I H4JdjH2wAFu-01349-00385420-00385706 and those will be able to get more H4JdjH2wAFu-01350-00385707-00385893 attention from keeping jumped on our H4JdjH2wAFu-01351-00385894-00386174 eyes or for some reason they do make it H4JdjH2wAFu-01352-00386175-00386507 further H4JdjH2wAFu-01353-00386508-00386675 like I said it's if someone that H4JdjH2wAFu-01354-00386676-00386786 interested do it by sector it has a H4JdjH2wAFu-01355-00386787-00387014 commit that makes it a lot easy to look H4JdjH2wAFu-01356-00387015-00387305 at things and I mean I don't know H4JdjH2wAFu-01357-00387306-00387926 sometimes I can make it ok so then then H4JdjH2wAFu-01358-00387927-00388082 that may be a less of an issue and then H4JdjH2wAFu-01359-00388083-00388265 just another question so this sounds H4JdjH2wAFu-01360-00388266-00388541 like garbage to me just in terms of how H4JdjH2wAFu-01361-00388542-00388754 we talk about it is there any sort of H4JdjH2wAFu-01362-00388755-00388946 time limit not like do these auto close H4JdjH2wAFu-01363-00388947-00389147 at some point the abrt bugs was that H4JdjH2wAFu-01364-00389148-00389483 when they're released into what is it H4JdjH2wAFu-01365-00389484-00389702 well no actually I think that bad so H4JdjH2wAFu-01366-00389703-00390050 when we do a rebase we usually put out a H4JdjH2wAFu-01367-00390051-00390320 massive bug filing to everybody it's a H4JdjH2wAFu-01368-00390321-00390575 query based the kernel is this still a H4JdjH2wAFu-01369-00390576-00390674 problem for you and we said everything H4JdjH2wAFu-01370-00390675-00390920 to be done and if there's no response to H4JdjH2wAFu-01371-00390921-00391518 that okay H4JdjH2wAFu-01372-00391519-00391788 so because that we do get a ton of H4JdjH2wAFu-01373-00391789-00392052 people who follow BRT bugs because they H4JdjH2wAFu-01374-00392053-00392175 were prompted to do so but then they H4JdjH2wAFu-01375-00392176-00392316 don't even I don't even know that they H4JdjH2wAFu-01376-00392317-00392700 get the emails asking for further and H4JdjH2wAFu-01377-00392701-00392886 the reason is because it feels like you H4JdjH2wAFu-01378-00392887-00393078 know you to get involved basically right H4JdjH2wAFu-01379-00393079-00393318 here is where you guys are and so the H4JdjH2wAFu-01380-00393319-00393546 smaller that the smaller we can make H4JdjH2wAFu-01381-00393547-00393705 this obviously the better but bugs are H4JdjH2wAFu-01382-00393706-00393891 bugs so the next best thing is the H4JdjH2wAFu-01383-00393892-00394044 highest quality information that we can H4JdjH2wAFu-01384-00394045-00394227 feed you guys the better and so if H4JdjH2wAFu-01385-00394228-00394395 you're gonna ignore I guess mine my big H4JdjH2wAFu-01386-00394396-00394569 question was if you ignore I BRT just H4JdjH2wAFu-01387-00394570-00394866 because there's only two of you then do H4JdjH2wAFu-01388-00394867-00394998 they go away at some point or does that H4JdjH2wAFu-01389-00394999-00395103 mean that they just sit there and you H4JdjH2wAFu-01390-00395104-00395250 have to every time you pull the bug with H4JdjH2wAFu-01391-00395251-00395403 stuff you have to like ignore them again H4JdjH2wAFu-01392-00395404-00395640 cuz that's work to know they go away but H4JdjH2wAFu-01393-00395641-00396318 I also do I look at bugs that have been H4JdjH2wAFu-01394-00396319-00396888 given updates in my email because I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01395-00396889-00397158 doing well that's on that 45 enough 26 H4JdjH2wAFu-01396-00397159-00397347 so I'm with the you have 25 in F 26 and H4JdjH2wAFu-01397-00397348-00397584 then security H4JdjH2wAFu-01398-00397585-00397764 whatever's got unread that I need to H4JdjH2wAFu-01399-00397765-00398082 look at very rarely do I have time to go H4JdjH2wAFu-01400-00398083-00398223 back and say I'm just an accrual H4JdjH2wAFu-01401-00398224-00398403 Bugzilla and see what's available you H4JdjH2wAFu-01402-00398404-00398580 know see what needs to be looked at H4JdjH2wAFu-01403-00398581-00398907 because I've hopefully take a look at it H4JdjH2wAFu-01404-00398908-00398967 when it came in H4JdjH2wAFu-01405-00398968-00399171 yeah okay that makes sense doesn't that H4JdjH2wAFu-01406-00399172-00399489 also mean you can't go on vacation yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-01407-00399490-00399651 I went on vacation in place and then you H4JdjH2wAFu-01408-00399652-00399843 spend three days catching up okay they H4JdjH2wAFu-01409-00399844-00400095 cancel so and then my I guess my final H4JdjH2wAFu-01410-00400096-00400229 question before I said I guess cuz I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01411-00400230-00400344 confused H4JdjH2wAFu-01412-00400345-00400581 so does SKT is they're gonna submit bug H4JdjH2wAFu-01413-00400582-00400716 reports directly upstream is there H4JdjH2wAFu-01414-00400717-00401334 something immediately there to patch H4JdjH2wAFu-01415-00401335-00401487 feedback it's like reviewing a patch but H4JdjH2wAFu-01416-00401488-00401625 hey we noticed your patch H4JdjH2wAFu-01417-00401626-00401790 failed this test for the public tester H4JdjH2wAFu-01418-00401791-00402198 is a failure we got up do I do something H4JdjH2wAFu-01419-00402199-00402330 and that's up to maintain I've joints H4JdjH2wAFu-01420-00402331-00402468 except attached we're hoping that if we H4JdjH2wAFu-01421-00402469-00402609 get it early enough to meet sub maintain H4JdjH2wAFu-01422-00402610-00402879 oh say I'm rejecting this patch of these H4JdjH2wAFu-01423-00402880-00403092 fixes yep H4JdjH2wAFu-01424-00403093-00403446 I didn't sign up for okay that make H4JdjH2wAFu-01425-00403447-00403695 sense I think further on with the human H4JdjH2wAFu-01426-00403696-00403923 entering bugs that it's always been the H4JdjH2wAFu-01427-00403924-00404295 CI cd32 we in general the theory is that H4JdjH2wAFu-01428-00404296-00404427 you know humans myths about you look at H4JdjH2wAFu-01429-00404428-00404607 the bug like why we should have this H4JdjH2wAFu-01430-00404608-00404826 test case in our test we to expand your H4JdjH2wAFu-01431-00404827-00405111 test we open that over timing you catch H4JdjH2wAFu-01432-00405112-00405291 these issues early on there's less human H4JdjH2wAFu-01433-00405292-00406221 reported bugs because these guys were H4JdjH2wAFu-01434-00406222-00408555 the slow turn butter but well I mean you H4JdjH2wAFu-01435-00408556-00408726 can't see that the bias is to blame for H4JdjH2wAFu-01436-00408727-00409038 every bug that originates in BIOS maybe H4JdjH2wAFu-01437-00409039-00409760 we should be handling some of those but H4JdjH2wAFu-01438-00409762-00410028 it mean yeah we should be handling some H4JdjH2wAFu-01439-00410029-00410505 of those things but you know I always H4JdjH2wAFu-01440-00410506-00410754 say that part of this bug reporting and H4JdjH2wAFu-01441-00410755-00410991 triaging is teaching H4JdjH2wAFu-01442-00410992-00411313 better bugs how often do we do that we H4JdjH2wAFu-01443-00411314-00411424 do that all the time H4JdjH2wAFu-01444-00411425-00411657 yeah but the problem with teaching H4JdjH2wAFu-01445-00411658-00411991 though is is that honestly teaching H4JdjH2wAFu-01446-00411992-00412180 itself is a little bit hard to do it H4JdjH2wAFu-01447-00412181-00412326 does it doesn't spill when they're only H4JdjH2wAFu-01448-00412327-00413107 communicate when we have community H4JdjH2wAFu-01449-00413108-00413268 members who are willing to put in work H4JdjH2wAFu-01450-00413269-00413643 like yeah we are happy to help you do H4JdjH2wAFu-01451-00413644-00413934 that and yeah he's gotten two bucks fix H4JdjH2wAFu-01452-00413935-00414330 from court all the time right so yeah if H4JdjH2wAFu-01453-00414331-00414526 community people are showing interest in H4JdjH2wAFu-01454-00414527-00414688 putting effort we're happy to take the H4JdjH2wAFu-01455-00414689-00414955 time to help you do that but we don't H4JdjH2wAFu-01456-00414956-00415176 have time to go through every bug and H4JdjH2wAFu-01457-00415177-00415480 said this years ago to the avrt guys one H4JdjH2wAFu-01458-00415481-00415632 thing I'd love to see attached those H4JdjH2wAFu-01459-00415633-00415839 abrt reports for the colonel and some H4JdjH2wAFu-01460-00415840-00416103 Listowel hardware so we can compare it H4JdjH2wAFu-01461-00416104-00417129 to what we H4JdjH2wAFu-01462-00417130-00417478 hardware are you bidding you know did H4JdjH2wAFu-01463-00417479-00417691 you get pushed back yeah it was years H4JdjH2wAFu-01464-00417692-00417722 ago H4JdjH2wAFu-01465-00417722-00417982 I remember when ad Artie first came in H4JdjH2wAFu-01466-00417983-00418258 and it was actually reported that like H4JdjH2wAFu-01467-00418259-00418472 we thought it was SOS report yeah do you H4JdjH2wAFu-01468-00418472-00418624 remember that we were trying to figure H4JdjH2wAFu-01469-00418625-00418741 out where the hell these things were H4JdjH2wAFu-01470-00418742-00418972 coming from and what the SOS report guys H4JdjH2wAFu-01471-00418973-00419168 and they're like we have nothing to do H4JdjH2wAFu-01472-00419168-00419314 with this and then we discovered there H4JdjH2wAFu-01473-00419315-00419679 was this whole new project doing this H4JdjH2wAFu-01474-00419680-00420127 yeah we at least got them to be able to H4JdjH2wAFu-01475-00420128-00420362 pin down the warning and because one H4JdjH2wAFu-01476-00420363-00420560 point they were just printing out one H4JdjH2wAFu-01477-00420560-00420925 line it was pretty visible H4JdjH2wAFu-01478-00420926-00421222 so at that time this was year again H4JdjH2wAFu-01479-00421223-00421391 years ago maybe I should ask again and H4JdjH2wAFu-01480-00421392-00421714 say would you guys consider do it CC me H4JdjH2wAFu-01481-00421715-00421900 on it because I mean the worst thing H4JdjH2wAFu-01482-00421901-00422041 they're gonna say is no we think that's H4JdjH2wAFu-01483-00422042-00423252 to again this was five six seven years H4JdjH2wAFu-01484-00423253-00423520 to it we just need a quick hardware list H4JdjH2wAFu-01485-00423521-00423647 and we need you to turn on the camera H4JdjH2wAFu-01486-00423647-00424222 take a quick picture you could also in H4JdjH2wAFu-01487-00424223-00424498 the kernel test we say would you like to H4JdjH2wAFu-01488-00424499-00424654 report your hardware the problem is we H4JdjH2wAFu-01489-00424655-00424906 do have users who are using Crewe's H4JdjH2wAFu-01490-00424907-00425089 hardware because they're doing H4JdjH2wAFu-01491-00425090-00425384 development stuff so how do you H4JdjH2wAFu-01492-00425385-00425572 what's part of their but maybe Artie H4JdjH2wAFu-01493-00425574-00425717 stole props like it's still part of the H4JdjH2wAFu-01494-00425718-00425816 report and those guys ought to know H4JdjH2wAFu-01495-00425817-00425860 better H4JdjH2wAFu-01496-00425862-00426059 oh yeah they don't that's on them here's H4JdjH2wAFu-01497-00426060-00426329 one thing that I mean doing the tiny H4JdjH2wAFu-01498-00426330-00426568 amount of kernel bugs there's no H4JdjH2wAFu-01499-00426570-00426992 standard format H4JdjH2wAFu-01500-00426993-00427145 something like that I think if you're H4JdjH2wAFu-01501-00427146-00427322 gonna reform a kernel bug please attach H4JdjH2wAFu-01502-00427322-00427625 the output of this thing right yeah we H4JdjH2wAFu-01503-00427626-00427789 don't have anything like that we can't H4JdjH2wAFu-01504-00427791-00427955 even ask somebody to run I mean I'm sure H4JdjH2wAFu-01505-00427956-00428270 it exists is know we have the tool we H4JdjH2wAFu-01506-00428271-00428963 have to Littlefoot H4JdjH2wAFu-01507-00428964-00429212 when they and attach the output of when H4JdjH2wAFu-01508-00429213-00429788 they submit a kernel one good what the H4JdjH2wAFu-01509-00429789-00430250 problem is to give a default command H4JdjH2wAFu-01510-00430251-00430424 would be collecting way more information H4JdjH2wAFu-01511-00430425-00430529 than we would definitely need on a H4JdjH2wAFu-01512-00430530-00430760 difficult fun and it any further but I H4JdjH2wAFu-01513-00430760-00431014 guess it's better to have it not needed H4JdjH2wAFu-01514-00431016-00431750 to need it yeah have it right so yeah no H4JdjH2wAFu-01515-00431751-00431957 no but users will complain that we're H4JdjH2wAFu-01516-00431958-00433146 asking for H4JdjH2wAFu-01517-00433147-00433410 so you can tell I did this get that H4JdjH2wAFu-01518-00433411-00433647 super fast the time same thing or on a H4JdjH2wAFu-01519-00433648-00433785 whole bunch of stuff if we had that as a H4JdjH2wAFu-01520-00433786-00434014 reusable tool not just for fun reports H4JdjH2wAFu-01521-00434014-00434179 but for them for the test suite also H4JdjH2wAFu-01522-00434180-00434544 included the results then and it was a H4JdjH2wAFu-01523-00434545-00434704 consistent identifier at least forgiven H4JdjH2wAFu-01524-00434705-00434782 release H4JdjH2wAFu-01525-00434783-00434947 and you could kind of tell okay this is H4JdjH2wAFu-01526-00434947-00435151 pretty well tested over 500 different H4JdjH2wAFu-01527-00435152-00435433 configurations or so on yeah if I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01528-00435434-00435628 going to the trouble of doing with our H4JdjH2wAFu-01529-00435629-00436200 Bugzilla H4JdjH2wAFu-01530-00436201-00436716 he's making s Corinne Road then surely H4JdjH2wAFu-01531-00436717-00437172 well two things one is if it's asking me H4JdjH2wAFu-01532-00437174-00437322 from all the information that someone's H4JdjH2wAFu-01533-00437324-00437470 gonna ask me so there's no more round H4JdjH2wAFu-01534-00437471-00437641 trips he's like I gave you everything H4JdjH2wAFu-01535-00437642-00438025 right but also I've shown that I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01536-00438026-00438253 willing to give you information yeah and H4JdjH2wAFu-01537-00438254-00438430 obviously we're gonna help a lot more H4JdjH2wAFu-01538-00438431-00438559 effort than that I'm keeping my name H4JdjH2wAFu-01539-00438560-00438657 yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-01540-00438658-00439295 what PCI cards I have plug H4JdjH2wAFu-01541-00439296-00439487 nothing sucks about it's just the people H4JdjH2wAFu-01542-00439488-00439712 from - is there there might not be a H4JdjH2wAFu-01543-00439713-00441768 worse communication medium the mozilla H4JdjH2wAFu-01544-00441770-00442481 mercury branching come back to 10-15 H4JdjH2wAFu-01545-00442482-00442658 minutes be a wrap up so we can get maybe H4JdjH2wAFu-01546-00442659-00442822 a summary of what we've talked about to H4JdjH2wAFu-01547-00442824-00443228 do a read French way I figured the H4JdjH2wAFu-01548-00443229-00443399 answer that is simply no and then you H4JdjH2wAFu-01549-00443400-00444314 move on I can give them a small H4JdjH2wAFu-01550-00444314-00444872 background on it just because I was H4JdjH2wAFu-01551-00444873-00445310 as things have now moved from package H4JdjH2wAFu-01552-00445310-00445827 db2 cuz you're one of the drivers for H4JdjH2wAFu-01553-00445828-00445985 that is the ability to create an H4JdjH2wAFu-01554-00445986-00446226 arbitrary branch meeting a branch that H4JdjH2wAFu-01555-00446227-00446628 is not 26 m7f 20 H4JdjH2wAFu-01556-00446629-00447014 the benefit to that house please do with H4JdjH2wAFu-01557-00447016-00447210 modularity how they do there H4JdjH2wAFu-01558-00447212-00447454 they're built H4JdjH2wAFu-01559-00447455-00447920 that and H4JdjH2wAFu-01560-00447921-00448229 I do not see any benefit on the colonel H4JdjH2wAFu-01561-00448230-00448409 side of things at all that we do have in H4JdjH2wAFu-01562-00448410-00448505 our prepare a branch called H4JdjH2wAFu-01563-00448506-00448995 stabilisation H4JdjH2wAFu-01564-00448996-00449229 you couldn't do builds off of it you H4JdjH2wAFu-01565-00449230-00449731 wouldn't build on we you could generate H4JdjH2wAFu-01566-00449732-00449898 nests rpm I do scratch builder you can H4JdjH2wAFu-01567-00449899-00450356 build off the Cobras I don't see any H4JdjH2wAFu-01568-00450357-00450918 reason H4JdjH2wAFu-01569-00450918-00451127 I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01570-00451128-00451277 but I'm part of the part of the reason H4JdjH2wAFu-01571-00451278-00451484 why you don't need to is because I can H4JdjH2wAFu-01572-00451485-00451757 take a rawhide kernel and stick it on 23 H4JdjH2wAFu-01573-00451758-00452150 machine or yes and note so you can but H4JdjH2wAFu-01574-00452151-00452603 if you have to if you have to like build H4JdjH2wAFu-01575-00452604-00452756 and how to treat model or something H4JdjH2wAFu-01576-00452757-00453468 you've got it to tell you can do H4JdjH2wAFu-01577-00453468-00453751 talk about beauties you didn't really H4JdjH2wAFu-01578-00453752-00454035 say and such and so laptop that did this H4JdjH2wAFu-01579-00454037-00454366 weird thing but when talk about easy H4JdjH2wAFu-01580-00454367-00454579 therefore thinking about some gnarly H4JdjH2wAFu-01581-00454580-00455181 server that has balls H4JdjH2wAFu-01582-00455182-00456033 server versus so there's there's two big H4JdjH2wAFu-01583-00456034-00456195 components I think that that H4JdjH2wAFu-01584-00456196-00456510 differentiate a server kernel H4JdjH2wAFu-01585-00456510-00456732 one is desktop kernel supporting a much H4JdjH2wAFu-01586-00456733-00456870 wider variety of hardware's we have a H4JdjH2wAFu-01587-00456871-00457080 ton of - you know thinking of the small H4JdjH2wAFu-01588-00457081-00457296 amount of disk space and servers don't H4JdjH2wAFu-01589-00457297-00457488 care about the ones who do are the H4JdjH2wAFu-01590-00457489-00457860 people doing things like Bert and stuff H4JdjH2wAFu-01591-00457860-00457980 like that and that's what we have kernel H4JdjH2wAFu-01592-00457981-00458250 for which should do it on any foreign H4JdjH2wAFu-01593-00458251-00458496 system and then we have kernel modules H4JdjH2wAFu-01594-00458497-00458660 which is basically the drivers for H4JdjH2wAFu-01595-00458662-00458901 common hardware and some people not so H4JdjH2wAFu-01596-00458902-00458974 common H4JdjH2wAFu-01597-00458975-00459172 we have kernel modules in intro which is H4JdjH2wAFu-01598-00459172-00459343 that we're not sure that anybody H4JdjH2wAFu-01599-00459343-00459517 actually uses this other than one or two H4JdjH2wAFu-01600-00459518-00459871 people who have to be turn off so really H4JdjH2wAFu-01601-00459872-00460042 one kernel can kind of serve those needs H4JdjH2wAFu-01602-00460043-00460452 the other thing you see is different is H4JdjH2wAFu-01603-00460453-00460633 server is always going to prefer H4JdjH2wAFu-01604-00460634-00460914 performance over founders workstation H4JdjH2wAFu-01605-00460916-00461014 tester H4JdjH2wAFu-01606-00461014-00461343 prefer power management and one of the H4JdjH2wAFu-01607-00461344-00461508 things that we're planning on doing is H4JdjH2wAFu-01608-00461509-00461683 going through and kind of auditing all H4JdjH2wAFu-01609-00461684-00462005 of those I think a lot of them H4JdjH2wAFu-01610-00462006-00462343 changed our runtime yeah there there yes H4JdjH2wAFu-01611-00462345-00462488 there come to pick up until we choose a H4JdjH2wAFu-01612-00462489-00462608 default but they think that could be H4JdjH2wAFu-01613-00462609-00462727 able H4JdjH2wAFu-01614-00462728-00462922 things that we take to the server so H4JdjH2wAFu-01615-00462923-00463132 you'd say hey we should maybe consider H4JdjH2wAFu-01616-00463133-00463550 making these changes for the server spin H4JdjH2wAFu-01617-00463551-00463895 so that this works for like all saga H4JdjH2wAFu-01618-00463896-00464087 would strongly caution against assuming H4JdjH2wAFu-01619-00464088-00464239 that servers are going to prefer H4JdjH2wAFu-01620-00464240-00464695 performance over power management H4JdjH2wAFu-01621-00464696-00464870 it's these days is pretty much H4JdjH2wAFu-01622-00464871-00465047 everything's going to prefer Power Man a H4JdjH2wAFu-01623-00465047-00465179 store religion just have an unlimited H4JdjH2wAFu-01624-00465180-00465464 power budget so his birthday but it's H4JdjH2wAFu-01625-00465464-00465608 encased at this point you're building H4JdjH2wAFu-01626-00465609-00465875 full data centers with that yeah so it's H4JdjH2wAFu-01627-00465876-00466193 not what now and it just isn't what it H4JdjH2wAFu-01628-00466193-00466468 used to be everything pretty much wants H4JdjH2wAFu-01629-00466469-00466625 the same and weird hardware is not H4JdjH2wAFu-01630-00466626-00466895 exclusive to desktops or servers I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-01631-00466896-00467114 what should be done order to get easier H4JdjH2wAFu-01632-00467114-00467320 net cards or something needs that's H4JdjH2wAFu-01633-00467321-00467555 still pretty weird yeah I mean it's H4JdjH2wAFu-01634-00467556-00467770 still like either way it keeps it at a I H4JdjH2wAFu-01635-00467771-00467978 don't see much the driver to build a H4JdjH2wAFu-01636-00467979-00468433 separate H4JdjH2wAFu-01637-00468434-00468931 perhaps figure out what it's at one time H4JdjH2wAFu-01638-00468932-00469585 I had this scenario to see if we could H4JdjH2wAFu-01639-00469586-00470045 fit into the bottle of H4JdjH2wAFu-01640-00470046-00470368 okay bear you know let's just see if H4JdjH2wAFu-01641-00470370-00470543 it seems like there's a stabilization H4JdjH2wAFu-01642-00470543-00470699 model for the car where it's for H4JdjH2wAFu-01643-00470700-00470888 everything else we're targeting and H4JdjH2wAFu-01644-00470889-00471214 gating where well we need after the fact H4JdjH2wAFu-01645-00471216-00471364 send a boat saying you really broke H4JdjH2wAFu-01646-00471366-00471626 something on performance or systemd H4JdjH2wAFu-01647-00471627-00471803 totally ruin the system that's been up H4JdjH2wAFu-01648-00471804-00472049 for a thousand hours or whatever right H4JdjH2wAFu-01649-00472050-00472274 that's hard to gauge but most the start H4JdjH2wAFu-01650-00472275-00472385 we're going to gate looks like the H4JdjH2wAFu-01651-00472385-00472543 colonel is going to be hard to get right H4JdjH2wAFu-01652-00472545-00472970 so what if the scenario so no one is H4JdjH2wAFu-01653-00472971-00473464 right what if the atomic host says we H4JdjH2wAFu-01654-00473466-00473681 know the new colonel is not fit for H4JdjH2wAFu-01655-00473682-00473957 purpose in the cloud or H4JdjH2wAFu-01656-00473958-00474297 digitalocean H4JdjH2wAFu-01657-00474299-00474554 another cloud we're not gonna ship that H4JdjH2wAFu-01658-00474555-00474881 Colonel until this changes so we're at H4JdjH2wAFu-01659-00474882-00474964 this point where they're gonna H4JdjH2wAFu-01660-00474966-00475220 essentially gate it you're very likely H4JdjH2wAFu-01661-00475221-00475445 gonna use a module to Gaeta H4JdjH2wAFu-01662-00475446-00475589 it could they don't need an architrave H4JdjH2wAFu-01663-00475589-00475820 branch to do that they can refer to an H4JdjH2wAFu-01664-00475821-00476012 over dis commit yes good commit this one H4JdjH2wAFu-01665-00476013-00476255 will do or use some mechanism to ship H4JdjH2wAFu-01666-00476256-00476480 the older colonel well good modular is H4JdjH2wAFu-01667-00476481-00476729 who uses arbitrary plans right right but H4JdjH2wAFu-01668-00476730-00477014 in addition to modules they can refer to H4JdjH2wAFu-01669-00477014-00477239 an older committed this kid like the H4JdjH2wAFu-01670-00477239-00477362 colonel doesn't have to have arbitrary H4JdjH2wAFu-01671-00477363-00477560 branching for modules to do a little bit H4JdjH2wAFu-01672-00477560-00477920 of their magic so now you have a H4JdjH2wAFu-01673-00477921-00478367 situation where for some time unknown H4JdjH2wAFu-01674-00478368-00478502 period of time hopefully not that long H4JdjH2wAFu-01675-00478503-00478616 but I don't think they're trying to H4JdjH2wAFu-01676-00478617-00478835 essentially had the branch where we're H4JdjH2wAFu-01677-00478835-00479204 shipping in a release door my coach a H4JdjH2wAFu-01678-00479205-00479485 colonel that you guys no longer really H4JdjH2wAFu-01679-00479485-00479689 think has essentially brandishing H4JdjH2wAFu-01680-00479691-00480176 someone and one could imagine that our H4JdjH2wAFu-01681-00480177-00480392 security update comes and you're so H4JdjH2wAFu-01682-00480393-00480614 where do we do this what do we do to me H4JdjH2wAFu-01683-00480614-00481010 you know fix that license that security H4JdjH2wAFu-01684-00481010-00481184 update for this colonel that's that way H4JdjH2wAFu-01685-00481185-00481291 on the topic H4JdjH2wAFu-01686-00481292-00481566 yet sort of jumped in I'm not stable H4JdjH2wAFu-01687-00481567-00481801 enough so I'm not saying all of these H4JdjH2wAFu-01688-00481802-00482032 are Givens let's use an example to play H4JdjH2wAFu-01689-00482033-00482137 around and make sure we have a good H4JdjH2wAFu-01690-00482138-00482812 answer to it when you say splice are you H4JdjH2wAFu-01691-00482813-00483034 referring to Kate's place to keep a ship H4JdjH2wAFu-01692-00483035-00483193 I'll let you breathe using that is I H4JdjH2wAFu-01693-00483193-00483372 just use that's a dumb word but I meant H4JdjH2wAFu-01694-00483373-00483589 okay so the idea is that you would have H4JdjH2wAFu-01695-00483589-00483763 to build and redo it H4JdjH2wAFu-01696-00483764-00484066 mostly because I'm having a hard time I H4JdjH2wAFu-01697-00484067-00484234 mentioned this is branching just because H4JdjH2wAFu-01698-00484235-00484384 you're making it sound like well we're H4JdjH2wAFu-01699-00484385-00484534 just gonna pick up an over kernel and H4JdjH2wAFu-01700-00484535-00484791 that's not really branching that's using H4JdjH2wAFu-01701-00484792-00485005 an older kernel and then somehow H4JdjH2wAFu-01702-00485006-00485212 expecting it to be supportive H4JdjH2wAFu-01703-00485213-00485452 so the the other side of that was didn't H4JdjH2wAFu-01704-00485453-00486125 know there needs to be a CV I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-01705-00486126-00486479 right this is really a whole worst-case H4JdjH2wAFu-01706-00486480-00486701 scenario this is your Canora support H4JdjH2wAFu-01707-00486702-00486889 model versus your L support model again H4JdjH2wAFu-01708-00486891-00487064 that's kind of the way it works because H4JdjH2wAFu-01709-00487064-00487264 you know otherwise if we start H4JdjH2wAFu-01710-00487266-00487451 maintaining arbitrary branches for all H4JdjH2wAFu-01711-00487452-00490000 this there's two of us yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-01712-00490001-00490603 well I mean yeah he uses ideally it'd be H4JdjH2wAFu-01713-00490604-00491172 a person for branch the problem is we H4JdjH2wAFu-01714-00491173-00491854 have three people H4JdjH2wAFu-01715-00491855-00491985 the nice thing about having a H4JdjH2wAFu-01716-00491986-00492653 three-person rotation just for you H4JdjH2wAFu-01717-00492654-00493070 we're different H4JdjH2wAFu-01718-00493071-00493872 it really helped us in H4JdjH2wAFu-01719-00493873-00494118 so that's the that's the second most H4JdjH2wAFu-01720-00494120-00494392 disturbing thing I've seen I would like H4JdjH2wAFu-01721-00494393-00495179 to see H4JdjH2wAFu-01722-00495180-00495410 for me though and I see my problem is I H4JdjH2wAFu-01723-00495410-00495563 don't still don't know from a user H4JdjH2wAFu-01724-00495564-00495827 perspective how this perturbation H4JdjH2wAFu-01725-00495828-00495998 what H4JdjH2wAFu-01726-00495999-00496262 I would you mentioned earlier that well H4JdjH2wAFu-01727-00496263-00496421 obviously no one tested the rawhide H4JdjH2wAFu-01728-00496422-00496664 colonel because well there's a lot of H4JdjH2wAFu-01729-00496665-00496779 times when I would test the rawhide H4JdjH2wAFu-01730-00496780-00497018 colonel but I know what it is wrong now H4JdjH2wAFu-01731-00497019-00497150 I know that I can pull the rawhide H4JdjH2wAFu-01732-00497151-00497597 Colonel manually and and well you're one H4JdjH2wAFu-01733-00497598-00497856 of the people who does test drive Brian H4JdjH2wAFu-01734-00497857-00498020 fairly frequently and these are not H4JdjH2wAFu-01735-00498021-00498162 problems that you know these problems H4JdjH2wAFu-01736-00498163-00498420 shut up in a rebase 126 sure so it was H4JdjH2wAFu-01737-00498421-00498656 that Colonel on 26 they showed up what H4JdjH2wAFu-01738-00498657-00498768 I'm saying is we don't have the breadth H4JdjH2wAFu-01739-00498768-00498918 of it I mean people who are right who H4JdjH2wAFu-01740-00498918-00499056 are building their own models and H4JdjH2wAFu-01741-00499057-00499185 secured signing admitted throwing those H4JdjH2wAFu-01742-00499185-00499352 keys in UEFI yeah it's probably a very H4JdjH2wAFu-01743-00499353-00500058 small number yes but it's just if there H4JdjH2wAFu-01744-00500059-00500621 was an easy way for me to otherwise H4JdjH2wAFu-01745-00500622-00500937 release machine to follow the colonel H4JdjH2wAFu-01746-00500938-00501170 did you like me to be tested right I H4JdjH2wAFu-01747-00501171-00502108 would do that you can go into your young H4JdjH2wAFu-01748-00502109-00502382 the rawhide repo or if you really want H4JdjH2wAFu-01749-00502383-00502688 to the rawhide no to bug repo and you H4JdjH2wAFu-01750-00502689-00502868 can all hide nota bug is kind of H4JdjH2wAFu-01751-00502868-00503081 loneliness this weekend even if you want H4JdjH2wAFu-01752-00503082-00503320 to do all abroad either you can say : H4JdjH2wAFu-01753-00503321-00503564 and I will exclude every other package H4JdjH2wAFu-01754-00503564-00503818 you do a DNF update and it will grab H4JdjH2wAFu-01755-00503820-00504050 colonel from rawhide provided it to H4JdjH2wAFu-01756-00504051-00504263 Newark or if for some reason it world it H4JdjH2wAFu-01757-00504264-00505220 whatever from you have 26 but there can H4JdjH2wAFu-01758-00505221-00505406 be problems with tools any mismatches if H4JdjH2wAFu-01759-00505407-00505672 your if you want to build out of tree H4JdjH2wAFu-01760-00505674-00505808 gap you're going to put a little bit H4JdjH2wAFu-01761-00505809-00506204 more than just curl yeah look that and H4JdjH2wAFu-01762-00506205-00506408 those are all hi criminals are signed H4JdjH2wAFu-01763-00506409-00506609 and all of that mess I mean indeed a H4JdjH2wAFu-01764-00506610-00506777 course to the rawhide no to bug kernels H4JdjH2wAFu-01765-00506778-00507083 are not song okay well that comes from a H4JdjH2wAFu-01766-00507084-00507233 separate repository right right there H4JdjH2wAFu-01767-00507234-00507395 they're not inside there there Cody H4JdjH2wAFu-01768-00507396-00507737 scratch bills the axle rod journals are H4JdjH2wAFu-01769-00507738-00508128 signed in there secure boot H4JdjH2wAFu-01770-00508129-00508428 but they have the bun another bucket H4JdjH2wAFu-01771-00508429-00508689 where we accept that I mean they have to H4JdjH2wAFu-01772-00508690-00508875 examples and all that they do H4JdjH2wAFu-01773-00508876-00509061 have the looking symbols per week did we H4JdjH2wAFu-01774-00509062-00509283 made an effort just like a year and a H4JdjH2wAFu-01775-00509284-00509469 half ago to figure out what was making H4JdjH2wAFu-01776-00509470-00509670 the bug crawls so slow and we did try a H4JdjH2wAFu-01777-00509671-00509826 couple of options to speed it up so H4JdjH2wAFu-01778-00509827-00510342 there they are slower but there it's not H4JdjH2wAFu-01779-00510343-00510492 like it used to be where it was almost H4JdjH2wAFu-01780-00510493-00510960 been these relations I'm I'm sort of H4JdjH2wAFu-01781-00510961-00511164 seeing no problem we have a lot of H4JdjH2wAFu-01782-00511165-00511733 problem on testing it's not just a car H4JdjH2wAFu-01783-00511734-00511924 deal with pests H4JdjH2wAFu-01784-00511925-00512125 all of their release but that's not a H4JdjH2wAFu-01785-00512126-00512299 topic here it's just if there should be H4JdjH2wAFu-01786-00512300-00512491 if there was a place there should be a H4JdjH2wAFu-01787-00512492-00512593 check box free H4JdjH2wAFu-01788-00512593-00512881 give me the weirdest kernel possible H4JdjH2wAFu-01789-00512882-00513277 right and you know let me see how are H4JdjH2wAFu-01790-00513278-00513528 well and we did just get a suggestion H4JdjH2wAFu-01791-00513529-00513820 asking us to do the door test day for H4JdjH2wAFu-01792-00513821-00514105 Toronto just like they do with test days H4JdjH2wAFu-01793-00514106-00514297 or several other things who I'm going to H4JdjH2wAFu-01794-00514297-00514474 do that see if they're scheduled if H4JdjH2wAFu-01795-00514475-00514697 there's time the scheduled for f27 but H4JdjH2wAFu-01796-00514699-00515277 certainly H4JdjH2wAFu-01797-00515278-00515541 we could even we might even be able to H4JdjH2wAFu-01798-00515542-00515760 do that on babies H4JdjH2wAFu-01799-00515761-00516052 right yeah if we do the week before real H4JdjH2wAFu-01800-00516053-00516412 a rebase I create images for people or H4JdjH2wAFu-01801-00516413-00516562 you can download their kernel to this H4JdjH2wAFu-01802-00516563-00516691 repository if you want to run it on your H4JdjH2wAFu-01803-00516692-00516879 yeah so that's something we can do to H4JdjH2wAFu-01804-00516880-00517062 maybe get more people actively testing H4JdjH2wAFu-01805-00517063-00518643 every major well got rawhide known about H4JdjH2wAFu-01806-00518644-00519288 for a long time anyway H4JdjH2wAFu-01807-00519289-00519447 the other thing copper doesn't build as H4JdjH2wAFu-01808-00519447-00519726 many architectures as doing could be H4JdjH2wAFu-01809-00519727-00519891 that way H4JdjH2wAFu-01810-00519892-00520160 however actually has I don't know why H4JdjH2wAFu-01811-00520162-00520317 they they will not change it for us H4JdjH2wAFu-01812-00520318-00520493 their time off I use exceptionally low H4JdjH2wAFu-01813-00520495-00520878 so we can only build x86 64 96-86 will H4JdjH2wAFu-01814-00520879-00521827 fail but as it times out H4JdjH2wAFu-01815-00521828-00522104 but in response to what you were saying H4JdjH2wAFu-01816-00522105-00522306 to me the most logical thing there is we H4JdjH2wAFu-01817-00522307-00522531 have an issue that is is preventing a H4JdjH2wAFu-01818-00522532-00522877 colonel for working on Tommy H4JdjH2wAFu-01819-00522878-00523129 that shouldn't have to sit them that H4JdjH2wAFu-01820-00523130-00523239 should be something that gets addressed H4JdjH2wAFu-01821-00523240-00523397 before H4JdjH2wAFu-01822-00523397-00523577 you know I understand if we've got an H4JdjH2wAFu-01823-00523578-00523810 issue that's hitting one or two users H4JdjH2wAFu-01824-00523812-00523988 somewhere because they're they have H4JdjH2wAFu-01825-00523989-00524132 arbitrary hard way that things are H4JdjH2wAFu-01826-00524133-00524351 affecting a lot of users even this qxl H4JdjH2wAFu-01827-00524352-00524527 file gets gone on all one day I want to H4JdjH2wAFu-01828-00524528-00524770 part of that is because we've had some H4JdjH2wAFu-01829-00524771-00524897 of the other things at the same time H4JdjH2wAFu-01830-00524898-00526091 that I was upstream and let me see H4JdjH2wAFu-01831-00526092-00526674 so the mismatch Wilkinson is this H4JdjH2wAFu-01832-00526675-00526917 matches back very quickly or some of H4JdjH2wAFu-01833-00526918-00527255 those delivery mechanisms they won't be H4JdjH2wAFu-01834-00527256-00527460 like we're definitely the brakes over H4JdjH2wAFu-01835-00527461-00527587 ship H4JdjH2wAFu-01836-00527588-00527754 you have to contain is a container H4JdjH2wAFu-01837-00527755-00528550 oriented host and you're right there's H4JdjH2wAFu-01838-00528551-00528679 totally a window where the security of H4JdjH2wAFu-01839-00528680-00528886 it comes well we don't really have an H4JdjH2wAFu-01840-00528887-00529258 answer for scrambling great the other H4JdjH2wAFu-01841-00529259-00529441 thing is it's so the the number of CPUs H4JdjH2wAFu-01842-00529442-00529902 that come into the kernel are very large H4JdjH2wAFu-01843-00529903-00530185 but the number of those CDs that H4JdjH2wAFu-01844-00530186-00530483 actually would impact H4JdjH2wAFu-01845-00530484-00530708 raucous is usually with ex weird driver H4JdjH2wAFu-01846-00530709-00530977 well it's weird driver there is like one H4JdjH2wAFu-01847-00530978-00531404 I patched yesterday yesterday but it is H4JdjH2wAFu-01848-00531405-00531635 a you can crash the system by doing this H4JdjH2wAFu-01849-00531636-00531758 to the driver that you should be able to H4JdjH2wAFu-01850-00531759-00532120 do you have to be route to do it if I'm H4JdjH2wAFu-01851-00532121-00532285 loose I can crash the system no matter H4JdjH2wAFu-01852-00532286-00532560 what so it doesn't matter that's I H4JdjH2wAFu-01853-00532561-00532747 understand the way the security research H4JdjH2wAFu-01854-00532748-00532952 community has gotten but really that's H4JdjH2wAFu-01855-00532953-00533254 not in critical bits right the route H4JdjH2wAFu-01856-00533255-00533495 update that caused me to push for 12 H4JdjH2wAFu-01857-00533496-00534019 five H4JdjH2wAFu-01858-00534020-00534346 that was a local root that's something H4JdjH2wAFu-01859-00534347-00534613 that you think that's something that yes H4JdjH2wAFu-01860-00534614-00534839 we needed to force H4JdjH2wAFu-01861-00534840-00535213 it's been months since we've seen H4JdjH2wAFu-01862-00535214-00535399 well usually to get their own website H4JdjH2wAFu-01863-00535400-00535610 marketing and t-shirts and everything H4JdjH2wAFu-01864-00535611-00535857 well those are those are more likely the H4JdjH2wAFu-01865-00535858-00537095 remote route but yeah well those are H4JdjH2wAFu-01866-00537096-00537320 treated with absolute priority I began H4JdjH2wAFu-01867-00537321-00537635 yeah still but those are few and far H4JdjH2wAFu-01868-00537636-00538194 between those happen H4JdjH2wAFu-01869-00538195-00538710 and what I would like to sometimes H4JdjH2wAFu-01870-00538711-00538887 which means somebody knows about them H4JdjH2wAFu-01871-00538888-00539119 before we find H4JdjH2wAFu-01872-00539120-00539245 and I'm kind of wondering if there's a H4JdjH2wAFu-01873-00539246-00539450 way that we could find out about them to H4JdjH2wAFu-01874-00539451-00539589 make sure that we're ready on day one H4JdjH2wAFu-01875-00539590-00539931 and you know if we know this is coming H4JdjH2wAFu-01876-00539932-00540364 maybe we're not going to push a rebase H4JdjH2wAFu-01877-00540365-00540544 a couple days before because we know H4JdjH2wAFu-01878-00540545-00540673 that this is coming and we're gonna want H4JdjH2wAFu-01879-00540674-00540898 to do one last build this process is H4JdjH2wAFu-01880-00540899-00540958 long H4JdjH2wAFu-01881-00540959-00541225 well said that the process hasn't run H4JdjH2wAFu-01882-00541226-00541364 some of that security stuff run some H4JdjH2wAFu-01883-00541365-00541603 very close list H4JdjH2wAFu-01884-00541604-00541918 so you should yeah you should discuss H4JdjH2wAFu-01885-00541919-00542188 with we have security people on Ellis H4JdjH2wAFu-01886-00542189-00542580 it's just a matter of making sure that H4JdjH2wAFu-01887-00542581-00543720 there's no problem telling you just H4JdjH2wAFu-01888-00543721-00543867 pragmatically speaking there will be a H4JdjH2wAFu-01889-00543868-00544389 problem if they fix it before they do H4JdjH2wAFu-01890-00544390-00544590 get a picks up before L does anyway just H4JdjH2wAFu-01891-00544591-00545424 because however that fix my not one of H4JdjH2wAFu-01892-00545425-00545709 those bad analogies but but that fix H4JdjH2wAFu-01893-00545710-00546162 might also include some regressions the H4JdjH2wAFu-01894-00546163-00546318 Fedora fix is there but it's also part H4JdjH2wAFu-01895-00546319-00546492 of the stable update that's got 130 so H4JdjH2wAFu-01896-00546493-00547602 other clarify did you know further H4JdjH2wAFu-01897-00547603-00547809 questions about the config process and H4JdjH2wAFu-01898-00547810-00547929 it got touched on a little bit but we H4JdjH2wAFu-01899-00547930-00548240 did kind of H4JdjH2wAFu-01900-00548241-00548591 best effort if you don't like them H4JdjH2wAFu-01901-00548592-00548858 I didn't clarify it sounds like there's H4JdjH2wAFu-01902-00548859-00549041 no explicit relationship between the H4JdjH2wAFu-01903-00549042-00549452 Fedora config and be Rao config and H4JdjH2wAFu-01904-00549453-00549706 that's intentional but at the same time H4JdjH2wAFu-01905-00549707-00549938 there's nothing preventing any changes H4JdjH2wAFu-01906-00549939-00550115 from happening to fedora config we can H4JdjH2wAFu-01907-00550116-00550313 talk to you guys first no in fact that's H4JdjH2wAFu-01908-00550314-00550403 one of the things we've been talking H4JdjH2wAFu-01909-00550404-00550568 about is how can we how can we leverage H4JdjH2wAFu-01910-00550569-00550739 some of them because there's two of us H4JdjH2wAFu-01911-00550740-00550925 there are a lot more rel Carmel H4JdjH2wAFu-01912-00550926-00551075 engineers and people with H4JdjH2wAFu-01913-00551076-00551216 specializations and all these different H4JdjH2wAFu-01914-00551217-00551441 areas when we make a best cast effort we H4JdjH2wAFu-01915-00551442-00551660 would love it if somebody says actually H4JdjH2wAFu-01916-00551661-00551873 if you do this you will know for sure H4JdjH2wAFu-01917-00551874-00552535 that couple of bigs H4JdjH2wAFu-01918-00552536-00552730 the problem is that even familiar that H4JdjH2wAFu-01919-00552731-00552987 they doesn't know how to tell you H4JdjH2wAFu-01920-00552988-00553261 maybe's yourself it's this way right now H4JdjH2wAFu-01921-00553262-00553414 what if what would be the best way for H4JdjH2wAFu-01922-00553415-00553617 you to get that bitmap H4JdjH2wAFu-01923-00553618-00553894 what does it look for for those types of H4JdjH2wAFu-01924-00553895-00554860 things or H4JdjH2wAFu-01925-00554861-00555041 we would like to see it that's the kind H4JdjH2wAFu-01926-00555042-00555130 of things that probably should be H4JdjH2wAFu-01927-00555131-00555397 usually publicans rawhide and then they H4JdjH2wAFu-01928-00555398-00555568 would trickle down and there's certain H4JdjH2wAFu-01929-00555569-00557555 things yeah that's why I mentioned if H4JdjH2wAFu-01930-00557556-00557807 that gets us feedback then yeah well H4JdjH2wAFu-01931-00557808-00558056 because we we wanted to do its best but H4JdjH2wAFu-01932-00558057-00558331 during the merge window there's H4JdjH2wAFu-01933-00558332-00558608 sometimes dozens every day for like two H4JdjH2wAFu-01934-00558609-00559343 weeks right so that's the problem is we H4JdjH2wAFu-01935-00559344-00559493 take them when they come in but then H4JdjH2wAFu-01936-00559494-00559960 there's no H4JdjH2wAFu-01937-00559961-00560326 oh you have this one then maybe this H4JdjH2wAFu-01938-00560327-00560743 holder is your change now across H4JdjH2wAFu-01939-00560744-00561871 every once in a while that stuff H4JdjH2wAFu-01940-00561872-00562169 and we need to go through you know we've H4JdjH2wAFu-01941-00562170-00562484 got drivers that we're supporting now or H4JdjH2wAFu-01942-00562485-00562678 some of those H4JdjH2wAFu-01943-00562679-00562825 the drivers that the hardware just H4JdjH2wAFu-01944-00562826-00563152 doesn't exist H4JdjH2wAFu-01945-00563153-00563492 well somebody will appear on the mailing H4JdjH2wAFu-01946-00563493-00563714 notes to tell you what exists I'm sure H4JdjH2wAFu-01947-00563715-00563977 one way to know whether it exists or not H4JdjH2wAFu-01948-00563978-00564182 and that's that's what we had done in H4JdjH2wAFu-01949-00564183-00564374 the past yet there have been past as H4JdjH2wAFu-01950-00564375-00564542 work okay I'm turning off a whole bunch H4JdjH2wAFu-01951-00564543-00564674 of stuff and let's see who complains H4JdjH2wAFu-01952-00564675-00564776 there's somebody complaints that get H4JdjH2wAFu-01953-00564777-00565079 turned off yeah it happens a draw I H4JdjH2wAFu-01954-00565080-00565262 didn't if it happens to when they went H4JdjH2wAFu-01955-00565263-00565570 into rebus gets pushed out to testing H4JdjH2wAFu-01956-00565571-00565904 but for those types of those types of H4JdjH2wAFu-01957-00565905-00566123 things what we typically do is just run H4JdjH2wAFu-01958-00566124-00566210 them all wrong H4JdjH2wAFu-01959-00566211-00566465 what other kernels get rebased to that H4JdjH2wAFu-01960-00566466-00566591 version they don't carry those H4JdjH2wAFu-01961-00566592-00567011 convictions but when we do f28 then all H4JdjH2wAFu-01962-00567012-00567152 the testing to that is testing without H4JdjH2wAFu-01963-00567153-00567299 those modules or somebody can place that H4JdjH2wAFu-01964-00567300-00567509 says Davis 1427 where doesn't work 28 H4JdjH2wAFu-01965-00567510-00567651 then we can H4JdjH2wAFu-01966-00567652-00567759 maybe we should turn that back on H4JdjH2wAFu-01967-00567760-00568089 because somebody knows H4JdjH2wAFu-01968-00568090-00568200 then you had a whole bunch that got H4JdjH2wAFu-01969-00568201-00568434 through with nobody noticed and nobody's H4JdjH2wAFu-01970-00568435-00569202 brought up sense yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-01971-00569203-00569412 I didn't have anything more I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-01972-00569413-00569560 people we still have another half hours H4JdjH2wAFu-01973-00569561-00569775 as if people want to talk about go back H4JdjH2wAFu-01974-00569776-00569904 to any other topic that has the test H4JdjH2wAFu-01975-00569905-00570202 aiming for stuff working any open floor H4JdjH2wAFu-01976-00570203-00570516 for whatever H4JdjH2wAFu-01977-00570517-00570675 we've got to report something back H4JdjH2wAFu-01978-00570676-00570787 tomorrow right H4JdjH2wAFu-01979-00570788-00571072 do you have what you need for that um I H4JdjH2wAFu-01980-00571073-00571258 mean if people aren't working that now H4JdjH2wAFu-01981-00571259-00571555 I'm sure I can yes right did this H4JdjH2wAFu-01982-00571556-00571717 marketing you know I knew Friday is H4JdjH2wAFu-01983-00571718-00571915 supposed to be like a readout of a piece H4JdjH2wAFu-01984-00571916-00572299 of today's session summary I mean so as H4JdjH2wAFu-01985-00572300-00572452 far as kernel testing goes I think it H4JdjH2wAFu-01986-00572453-00572665 was mostly reporting feedback I think it H4JdjH2wAFu-01987-00572666-00572863 heard the what I heard was is that H4JdjH2wAFu-01988-00572864-00572992 people were generally happy with the H4JdjH2wAFu-01989-00572993-00573226 approach proposed about bringing in the H4JdjH2wAFu-01990-00573227-00573579 new carl test suite to be able to to run H4JdjH2wAFu-01991-00573580-00573796 hopefully this will be able to get it H4JdjH2wAFu-01992-00573797-00574348 running on more more hardware to be more H4JdjH2wAFu-01993-00574349-00574519 hardware and more people to be able to H4JdjH2wAFu-01994-00574520-00574681 get that feedback and then that kind of H4JdjH2wAFu-01995-00574682-00574864 ties into the non we had engaged in H4JdjH2wAFu-01996-00574865-00575254 terms of just the bugzilla feedback loop H4JdjH2wAFu-01997-00575255-00575659 where i don't think we necessarily H4JdjH2wAFu-01998-00575660-00575896 double up at action but i think it H4JdjH2wAFu-01999-00575897-00576295 sounds like that the hope is is that the H4JdjH2wAFu-02000-00576296-00576478 testing will give us higher-quality bugs H4JdjH2wAFu-02001-00576479-00576823 zilla's and be able to put that in and H4JdjH2wAFu-02002-00576824-00576949 there's also the really good idea about H4JdjH2wAFu-02003-00576950-00577267 arranging a fedora kernel test day as H4JdjH2wAFu-02004-00577268-00577651 well so that's one thing and then H4JdjH2wAFu-02005-00577652-00577825 arbitrary brushing i think the H4JdjH2wAFu-02006-00577826-00577984 conclusion is no the kernel is not going H4JdjH2wAFu-02007-00577985-00578482 to do it it's just too much work for us H4JdjH2wAFu-02008-00578483-00578812 so I think that's what I have if H4JdjH2wAFu-02009-00578813-00578977 somebody I really think if somebody were H4JdjH2wAFu-02010-00578978-00579163 to provide like a very valid argument on H4JdjH2wAFu-02011-00579164-00579632 why you wanted H4JdjH2wAFu-02012-00579633-00579977 entertainment just like out of tree H4JdjH2wAFu-02013-00579978-00580142 branches and ever having out of tree H4JdjH2wAFu-02014-00580143-00580313 patch that's right our default is you H4JdjH2wAFu-02015-00580314-00580550 know it's not going upstream very soon H4JdjH2wAFu-02016-00580551-00580646 we're not going to carry it good H4JdjH2wAFu-02018-00584015-00584285 yeah this is good discussion I just want H4JdjH2wAFu-02019-00584286-00584462 to clarify is there anything else anyone H4JdjH2wAFu-02020-00584463-00584567 would like me to highlight in the H4JdjH2wAFu-02021-00584568-00585251 summary H4JdjH2wAFu-02022-00585252-00585464 a decent number of resources to acting H4JdjH2wAFu-02023-00585465-00585656 Fedora which is kind of Awesome H4JdjH2wAFu-02024-00585657-00585794 yes that's a very good point I'll make H4JdjH2wAFu-02025-00585795-00585959 sure I make that I will say the one H4JdjH2wAFu-02026-00585960-00586151 thing I did not know coming in is that H4JdjH2wAFu-02027-00586152-00586430 there's H4JdjH2wAFu-02028-00586431-00587162 okay they're magnificent people yes okay H4JdjH2wAFu-02029-00587163-00587369 I will stop trying to run the show then H4JdjH2wAFu-02030-00587370-00588956 and let you in let y'all talk so we're H4JdjH2wAFu-02031-00588957-00589091 trying to figure out because the H4JdjH2wAFu-02032-00589092-00589330 probably don't wanna do is spam people H4JdjH2wAFu-02033-00589331-00589556 we're - we're still in the testing phase H4JdjH2wAFu-02034-00589557-00589718 and maybe the way to say it with this H4JdjH2wAFu-02035-00589719-00589922 stuff to find out what the emails need H4JdjH2wAFu-02036-00589923-00590063 to look like do they have all the H4JdjH2wAFu-02037-00590064-00590318 information etc so we're just gonna send H4JdjH2wAFu-02038-00590319-00590513 them internal for a while and then leave H4JdjH2wAFu-02039-00590514-00590657 them out but just in a ballpark should I H4JdjH2wAFu-02040-00590658-00590882 expect if I don't hey anything for I H4JdjH2wAFu-02041-00590883-00591332 expect weeks months a year so I'll give H4JdjH2wAFu-02042-00591333-00594006 you status in the roll-ups H4JdjH2wAFu-02043-00594007-00594626 I did another question for Justin H4JdjH2wAFu-02044-00594627-00594906 so what with go back to the funnel with H4JdjH2wAFu-02045-00594907-00595068 the triage and AUSA H4JdjH2wAFu-02046-00595069-00595254 if you guys had like a very low level H4JdjH2wAFu-02047-00595255-00595485 almost intern level person would that H4JdjH2wAFu-02048-00595486-00595962 help you when they get in your way for H4JdjH2wAFu-02049-00595963-00596439 the triage texture it's I'm not saying H4JdjH2wAFu-02050-00596440-00597280 that triage H4JdjH2wAFu-02051-00597281-00597460 you know but it is very time-consuming H4JdjH2wAFu-02052-00597461-00597883 and it at very thinkwe stop me we had an H4JdjH2wAFu-02053-00597884-00598021 intern to do it you know we're gonna go H4JdjH2wAFu-02054-00598022-00598119 through eternity H4JdjH2wAFu-02055-00598120-00598336 well asking people to give more H4JdjH2wAFu-02056-00598337-00598648 information and they're like well and H4JdjH2wAFu-02057-00598649-00598903 also going down to the okay this is an H4JdjH2wAFu-02058-00598904-00599254 ATM well right he's inclined to make H4JdjH2wAFu-02059-00599255-00599395 sure the right people to Luci feed on H4JdjH2wAFu-02060-00599396-00600400 him I would never turn down I mean my H4JdjH2wAFu-02061-00600401-00600532 part of my first job right out of H4JdjH2wAFu-02062-00600533-00600667 college when I was learning to be H4JdjH2wAFu-02063-00600668-00600784 Colonel development I spent a long time H4JdjH2wAFu-02064-00600785-00600950 learning how to be bug triage and it is H4JdjH2wAFu-02065-00600951-00601288 very it's it's very valuable and it's a H4JdjH2wAFu-02066-00601289-00601411 good skill to learn how to heavens the H4JdjH2wAFu-02067-00601412-00601573 right way to learn a lot but you do also H4JdjH2wAFu-02068-00601574-00601777 make sure there's the mentoring feedback H4JdjH2wAFu-02069-00601778-00601894 to make sure you're not just throwing H4JdjH2wAFu-02070-00601895-00601993 them out to the weeds and they are H4JdjH2wAFu-02071-00601994-00602445 learning something H4JdjH2wAFu-02072-00602446-00602781 that person becomes the first person H4JdjH2wAFu-02073-00602782-00603000 anybody talks to after listen to the H4JdjH2wAFu-02074-00603001-00603233 phone unless they submit a really good H4JdjH2wAFu-02075-00603234-00603480 bond and those people are generally H4JdjH2wAFu-02076-00603481-00603835 upset H4JdjH2wAFu-02077-00603836-00604264 well a lot of the a lot of it's a higher H4JdjH2wAFu-02078-00604265-00604417 level of math right it's just making H4JdjH2wAFu-02079-00604418-00604561 sure that they're assigned to the right H4JdjH2wAFu-02080-00604562-00604753 people but yeah good see them and things H4JdjH2wAFu-02081-00604754-00605005 like that sometimes you're not asking H4JdjH2wAFu-02082-00605006-00605146 for right there's a decent amount of H4JdjH2wAFu-02083-00605147-00605320 information there but this is a this is H4JdjH2wAFu-02084-00605321-00605563 a I 915 bug so I need to make sure this H4JdjH2wAFu-02085-00605564-00605809 because they follow actually based on H4JdjH2wAFu-02086-00605810-00606121 the the xor gate driver yeah component H4JdjH2wAFu-02087-00606122-00606322 instead of the kernel component so even H4JdjH2wAFu-02088-00606323-00606451 though it's a kernel problem it gets H4JdjH2wAFu-02089-00606452-00606619 assigned forward that's a question H4JdjH2wAFu-02090-00606620-00606787 there's really only two people and I H4JdjH2wAFu-02091-00606788-00606961 find a bug in a sound driver so we get H4JdjH2wAFu-02092-00606962-00607285 CC to the sound people were just well H4JdjH2wAFu-02093-00607286-00607450 there is that right I don't think we H4JdjH2wAFu-02094-00607451-00607720 really employ sound people right I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-02095-00607721-00607969 I mean there is a separate line to CC H4JdjH2wAFu-02096-00607970-00608221 but I don't know who actually know it H4JdjH2wAFu-02097-00608222-00608410 yeah that really needs to go upstream H4JdjH2wAFu-02098-00608411-00608677 okay yeah and that's the worst part is H4JdjH2wAFu-02099-00608678-00608893 and unless it's like sound that's in a H4JdjH2wAFu-02100-00608894-00609184 laptop that a whole bunch of people have H4JdjH2wAFu-02101-00609185-00610083 yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-02102-00610084-00610625 so one question kind of calls from there H4JdjH2wAFu-02103-00610626-00610829 is there any level of testing that you H4JdjH2wAFu-02104-00610830-00611418 would accept as a teen or you before H4JdjH2wAFu-02105-00611419-00611672 automated testing yes you accept as H4JdjH2wAFu-02106-00611673-00612131 gaming before it goes into a non rise so H4JdjH2wAFu-02107-00612132-00612341 yes like the the test we have right now H4JdjH2wAFu-02108-00612342-00612697 on the but to really run on Raw H4JdjH2wAFu-02109-00612698-00612770 hands-free H4JdjH2wAFu-02110-00612771-00613102 I am Rudess we would consider a lot I H4JdjH2wAFu-02111-00613103-00613264 are I would personally consider a lot H4JdjH2wAFu-02112-00613265-00613606 more testing than going to office even a H4JdjH2wAFu-02113-00613607-00613783 rawhide stream should be aided by what H4JdjH2wAFu-02114-00613784-00613945 we're running right now on that as the H4JdjH2wAFu-02115-00613946-00614093 quick test on the independent which is H4JdjH2wAFu-02116-00614094-00614435 really does it boot does it or is it H4JdjH2wAFu-02117-00614436-00614585 signed correctly for a secure boot H4JdjH2wAFu-02118-00614586-00614806 because for plane it's a problem H4JdjH2wAFu-02119-00614807-00615088 sometimes pee sign flips out and H4JdjH2wAFu-02120-00615089-00615316 that pesky which one we don't give in H4JdjH2wAFu-02121-00615317-00615535 systems H4JdjH2wAFu-02122-00615536-00615733 so we want to make sure that a boots at H4JdjH2wAFu-02123-00615734-00615886 least in a NME M we want to make sure H4JdjH2wAFu-02124-00615887-00616653 that it's signed by a airwheel key H4JdjH2wAFu-02125-00616654-00617045 let's probably start also H4JdjH2wAFu-02126-00617046-00617496 yeah we can work from there but that to H4JdjH2wAFu-02127-00617497-00617745 me is even acceptable getting parole if H4JdjH2wAFu-02128-00617746-00617964 we want to talk maybe a step above that H4JdjH2wAFu-02129-00617965-00618258 I would say can you do basic networking H4JdjH2wAFu-02130-00618259-00618562 I mean can you think think about a basic H4JdjH2wAFu-02131-00618563-00618942 network virtualization do I peek do the H4JdjH2wAFu-02132-00618943-00620499 IDC IP command H4JdjH2wAFu-02133-00620500-00620872 public past which kind of helped by the H4JdjH2wAFu-02134-00620873-00621135 beta testing H4JdjH2wAFu-02135-00621136-00621390 absolutely I would love to see them that H4JdjH2wAFu-02136-00621391-00621561 I would actually yes I would take a H4JdjH2wAFu-02137-00621562-00621816 large a large number of those who say as H4JdjH2wAFu-02138-00621817-00621984 these are critical enough that we would H4JdjH2wAFu-02139-00621985-00623002 get a rebase or stable releases H4JdjH2wAFu-02140-00623003-00623387 from what you have I guess my one H4JdjH2wAFu-02141-00623388-00623687 concern though would be how do we make H4JdjH2wAFu-02142-00623688-00623885 sure we can act if we find a gating H4JdjH2wAFu-02143-00623886-00624128 problem actually getting it fixed I mean H4JdjH2wAFu-02144-00624129-00624338 the hope is is that if we think we'd be H4JdjH2wAFu-02145-00624339-00624479 fighting we would be fundamental enough H4JdjH2wAFu-02146-00624480-00624626 that say Colonel maintainers would in H4JdjH2wAFu-02147-00624627-00626590 fact care but you know who knows what H4JdjH2wAFu-02148-00626591-00627371 there are no itself to say there's a H4JdjH2wAFu-02149-00627372-00627668 good answer H4JdjH2wAFu-02150-00627669-00628137 ltp and random test acts panics that we H4JdjH2wAFu-02151-00628138-00628932 say right it's gonna take at this point H4JdjH2wAFu-02152-00628933-00629329 what actually happened yeah I think H4JdjH2wAFu-02153-00629330-00629466 that's a good I think right now I think H4JdjH2wAFu-02154-00629467-00629737 my opinion is is that I mean more tests H4JdjH2wAFu-02155-00629738-00629875 are great I think you're right we need H4JdjH2wAFu-02156-00629876-00630100 the human gating and not Auto gating and H4JdjH2wAFu-02157-00630101-00630277 saying sorry you don't get to release so H4JdjH2wAFu-02158-00630278-00630607 so so the way the gating works there are H4JdjH2wAFu-02159-00630608-00630964 some Fedora project talking about where H4JdjH2wAFu-02160-00630965-00631241 it doesn't work H4JdjH2wAFu-02161-00631242-00631445 right that's that's enforced by policy H4JdjH2wAFu-02162-00631446-00631754 in the project on package level all the H4JdjH2wAFu-02163-00631755-00631925 gating is essentially under your control H4JdjH2wAFu-02164-00631926-00632216 yeah if if you feel like that tested H4JdjH2wAFu-02165-00632217-00632366 or the colonel has changed H4JdjH2wAFu-02166-00632367-00632585 sufficiently or really all the odds are H4JdjH2wAFu-02167-00632586-00632726 stacked against us we have to get this H4JdjH2wAFu-02168-00632727-00632936 out security vulnerability despite this H4JdjH2wAFu-02169-00632937-00633149 you get to change the test disable one H4JdjH2wAFu-02170-00633150-00633401 whom the gaming has changed based on H4JdjH2wAFu-02171-00633402-00633923 what you like said I wouldn't mind H4JdjH2wAFu-02172-00633924-00634166 seeing some of that on Raw to the point H4JdjH2wAFu-02173-00634167-00634394 of we have to at least boot and we have H4JdjH2wAFu-02174-00634395-00634934 to be good so yeah yeah we have those H4JdjH2wAFu-02175-00634935-00635078 work of it H4JdjH2wAFu-02176-00635079-00635291 it would be nice if we just on that for H4JdjH2wAFu-02177-00635292-00635390 a life because that way you're not H4JdjH2wAFu-02178-00635391-00635609 sitting at a console living Colonel did H4JdjH2wAFu-02179-00635610-00635840 and we have we have the power know we H4JdjH2wAFu-02180-00635841-00635981 can enable that within days right now H4JdjH2wAFu-02181-00635982-00636158 awesome do you have the test suite there H4JdjH2wAFu-02182-00636159-00636637 we could actually H4JdjH2wAFu-02183-00636638-00637135 I would like to see H4JdjH2wAFu-02184-00637136-00637303 the next merchant one does it was going H4JdjH2wAFu-02185-00637304-00637429 to be opening up seed so I'll be curious H4JdjH2wAFu-02186-00637430-00637792 to see how effective the test is during H4JdjH2wAFu-02187-00637793-00638191 the merge went over to seven the merge H4JdjH2wAFu-02188-00638192-00638755 yeah next week of the week after H4JdjH2wAFu-02189-00638756-00638935 I mean this is also Labor Day weekend H4JdjH2wAFu-02190-00638936-00639136 sometimes he gets lazy and decides he's H4JdjH2wAFu-02191-00639137-00639433 nothing to he might push it because it H4JdjH2wAFu-02192-00639434-00639601 yeah this weekend delivered a weekend in H4JdjH2wAFu-02193-00639602-00639844 the next weekend just the next weekend H4JdjH2wAFu-02194-00639845-00639994 plumbers so again if plumbers is the H4JdjH2wAFu-02195-00639995-00640110 person to emergentism H4JdjH2wAFu-02196-00640111-00640579 yeah H4JdjH2wAFu-02197-00640580-00640963 Hoss well it'll suck for us and it sucks H4JdjH2wAFu-02198-00640964-00641113 bruza a lot of the maintainer czar at H4JdjH2wAFu-02199-00641114-00641365 plumbers yeah so one of the people H4JdjH2wAFu-02200-00641366-00641744 trying to push him things H4JdjH2wAFu-02201-00641745-00641873 we have that problem right now with H4JdjH2wAFu-02202-00641874-00642383 locking the components that it doesn't H4JdjH2wAFu-02203-00642384-00642809 have to starve in a new way all the H4JdjH2wAFu-02204-00642810-00643589 people were together which it's loud and H4JdjH2wAFu-02205-00643590-00645425 cold a lot of work gets committed to it H4JdjH2wAFu-02206-00645426-00645737 [Applause] H5GTdMEYqsM-00000-00000138-00000401 knowing the numbers that go together to H5GTdMEYqsM-00001-00000401-00000778 make 5 or 10 will really help you get H5GTdMEYqsM-00002-00000779-00001031 quicker and better at all addition and H5GTdMEYqsM-00003-00001032-00001204 subtraction H5GTdMEYqsM-00004-00001205-00001408 so the kind of facts you need to know H5GTdMEYqsM-00005-00001409-00001679 really fluently are these five plus H5GTdMEYqsM-00006-00001680-00001979 zeros five four plus one is five three H5GTdMEYqsM-00007-00001980-00002225 plus two is five two plus three is five H5GTdMEYqsM-00008-00002226-00002500 one plus four equals five and zero plus H5GTdMEYqsM-00009-00002501-00002741 five equals five H5GTdMEYqsM-00010-00002742-00003160 addition and subtraction are related and H5GTdMEYqsM-00011-00003161-00003413 so from one simple picture like this one H5GTdMEYqsM-00012-00003414-00003749 we can get a whole lot of facts H5GTdMEYqsM-00013-00003750-00004115 for example we can see that three plus H5GTdMEYqsM-00014-00004116-00004391 two gives us 5 which we write like that H5GTdMEYqsM-00015-00004392-00004601 but we can also write it like this H5GTdMEYqsM-00016-00004602-00004841 because the equal sign just means that H5GTdMEYqsM-00017-00004842-00005069 the things on both side of it are the H5GTdMEYqsM-00018-00005070-00005201 same 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H5GTdMEYqsM-00028-00008172-00008405 knowing the numbers that go together to H5GTdMEYqsM-00029-00008406-00008687 make ten is really important because our H5GTdMEYqsM-00030-00008688-00009083 number system is a base 10 number system H5GTdMEYqsM-00031-00009084-00009364 so you need to know all these facts H5GTdMEYqsM-00032-00009365-00009664 really really well both the addition and H5GTdMEYqsM-00033-00009665-00009910 this attraction versions of them that H5GTdMEYqsM-00034-00009911-00010181 may seem like a lot but if we just focus H5GTdMEYqsM-00035-00010182-00010541 in here what we can see is that it's H5GTdMEYqsM-00036-00010542-00010919 really easy to learn them quickly H5GTdMEYqsM-00037-00010920-00011188 first thing I want you to notice is that H5GTdMEYqsM-00038-00011189-00011513 eight is just made up of a five and a H5GTdMEYqsM-00039-00011514-00011728 three so it's really easy to picture H5GTdMEYqsM-00040-00011729-00012005 what eight is and that there are just H5GTdMEYqsM-00041-00012006-00012319 two little blocks left to make up ten H5GTdMEYqsM-00042-00012320-00012683 once we know that eight H5GTdMEYqsM-00043-00012684-00013102 and two are the happy number pair that H5GTdMEYqsM-00044-00013103-00013499 go together to make ten we can easily H5GTdMEYqsM-00045-00013500-00013829 and quickly get all these facts over H5GTdMEYqsM-00046-00013830-00014105 here we know that eight plus two is ten H5GTdMEYqsM-00047-00014106-00014338 two plus eight is ten ten minus two is H5GTdMEYqsM-00048-00014340-00014722 eight and ten minus eight is two so just H5GTdMEYqsM-00049-00014723-00014994 knowing that eight and two are the pair H5GTdMEYqsM-00050-00014995-00015425 lets us get all those other facts this H5GTdMEYqsM-00051-00015426-00015719 means that all you have to learn is this H5GTdMEYqsM-00052-00015719-00016007 set of facts here and once you know H5GTdMEYqsM-00053-00016008-00016283 these facts you know all those addition H5GTdMEYqsM-00054-00016284-00018227 and subtraction calculations H5GTdMEYqsM-00055-00018228-00018464 thank you H851MqljH5E-00000-00000177-00000719 [Music] H851MqljH5E-00001-00000720-00002695 foreign H851MqljH5E-00002-00002696-00004138 [Music] H851MqljH5E-00003-00004139-00004261 foreign H851MqljH5E-00004-00004262-00004665 [Music] H94c3CbSfr0-00000-00000003-00000248 okay using this apparatus right here H94c3CbSfr0-00001-00000249-00000630 this is a crop sprayer I got it H94c3CbSfr0-00002-00000631-00000977 tractor supply and if you'll notice H94c3CbSfr0-00003-00000977-00001340 right here it says a 15 gallon I don't H94c3CbSfr0-00004-00001341-00001462 know if you can pick that up or not 15 H94c3CbSfr0-00005-00001463-00001742 gallon mark now what I did using the H94c3CbSfr0-00006-00001743-00002099 simek's potassium silicon coating I went H94c3CbSfr0-00007-00002100-00002504 and I laid out three coats on my pavers H94c3CbSfr0-00008-00002505-00002690 here now this they're still wet they're H94c3CbSfr0-00009-00002691-00002807 going to dry up to have a different H94c3CbSfr0-00010-00002808-00003091 different Sheen to them but pretty much H94c3CbSfr0-00011-00003092-00003401 three coats it took about two two and a H94c3CbSfr0-00012-00003402-00003695 half gallons of three coats using this H94c3CbSfr0-00013-00003696-00004111 right here from this unit right here H94c3CbSfr0-00014-00004112-00004535 pretty basic okay now this is going to H94c3CbSfr0-00015-00004536-00004870 dry out and eventually what you end up H94c3CbSfr0-00016-00004871-00005117 seeing i heard all these pavers when it H94c3CbSfr0-00017-00005118-00005501 dries up is a sheen like this on the H94c3CbSfr0-00018-00005502-00005849 paver and now the one thing to keep in H94c3CbSfr0-00019-00005850-00006059 mind it does we are hydrophilic not H94c3CbSfr0-00020-00006060-00006299 hydrophobic we don't beat up but in my H94c3CbSfr0-00021-00006300-00006445 experience that I've seen everybody's H94c3CbSfr0-00022-00006447-00006659 papers that they claim beating up beads H94c3CbSfr0-00023-00006659-00006950 up for oh maybe two months and it goes H94c3CbSfr0-00024-00006951-00007245 away this silica coating which is glass H94c3CbSfr0-00025-00007247-00007484 this is glass on this thing right here H94c3CbSfr0-00026-00007484-00007642 this is what this gonna be here for H94c3CbSfr0-00027-00007643-00007846 years and years and years so two and a H94c3CbSfr0-00028-00007847-00008128 half gallons this is 600 I just H94c3CbSfr0-00029-00008129-00008471 mentioned up 600 feet and it took H94c3CbSfr0-00030-00008472-00008816 approximately two and a half gallons to H94c3CbSfr0-00031-00008817-00009049 get that done with the nine to one H94c3CbSfr0-00032-00009050-00009367 dilution ratio with the simek's H94c3CbSfr0-00033-00009368-00009605 multi-surface coating this is Tony Hawk H94c3CbSfr0-00034-00009606-00010298 crafts in st. 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killer or know where he might be hiding Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00024-00007434-00007841 he checks Ally's abandoned buildings and Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00025-00007842-00008117 any other places that might offer a hint Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00026-00008118-00008459 as to the Shadow's whereabouts Harry is Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00027-00008460-00008801 determined to find the Shadow and will Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00028-00008802-00009155 not give up until he has captured him he Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00029-00009156-00009401 knows that he is up against a highly Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00030-00009402-00009731 skilled and dangerous foe but he is Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00031-00009732-00010019 determined to defeat the shadow Harry Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00032-00010020-00010349 searches the city following any leads he Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00033-00010350-00010642 can find about the shadow he visits the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00034-00010643-00011010 old Hangouts and known criminal spots Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00035-00011011-00011477 tries to track down Norm Associates and Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00036-00011478-00011728 questions residents to see if they can Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00037-00011729-00012017 point him in the right direction Harry Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00038-00012018-00012319 thorough and persistent in his search Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00039-00012320-00012641 and finally he gets a Harry searches the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00040-00012642-00012965 city finally any needs he can find about Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00041-00012966-00013266 the shadow he visits the old Hangouts Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00042-00013268-00013691 and known criminal spots tries to track Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00043-00013691-00014016 down Nona Associates and questions Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00044-00014018-00014285 residents to see if they can point him Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00045-00014286-00014597 in the right direction Harry is thorough Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00046-00014597-00014986 and persistent in his search and finally Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00047-00014987-00015347 he gets a break a witness reports seeing Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00048-00015347-00015544 the shadow entering an abandoned Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00049-00015545-00015922 building in the Lower East Side he is Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00050-00015923-00016253 confident that this is his best lead yet Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00051-00016254-00016600 and he heads to the location immediately Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00052-00016601-00016913 as he approaches the building he can Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00053-00016914-00017261 hear voices inside and he prepares Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00054-00017262-00017579 himself for a confrontation I Harry Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00055-00017580-00017813 enters the abandoned building and Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00056-00017814-00018107 quickly gets his bearings he is cautious Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00057-00018108-00018508 but determined and heads deeper into the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00058-00018509-00018821 building he moves slowly and Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00059-00018822-00019097 methodically searching for any sign of Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00060-00019098-00019475 the Shadow he hears voices ahead and he Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00061-00019476-00019793 can feel the tension in the air he's on Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00062-00019794-00020086 the trail of a dangerous and useless Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00063-00020087-00020458 criminal and he knows that one mistake Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00064-00020459-00020771 could cost him his life he needs to be Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00065-00020772-00021149 careful and he needs a plan very moves Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00066-00021150-00021521 slowly and quietly inching towards the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00067-00021522-00021829 voices he has heard he Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00068-00021830-00022241 slowly peeks around the corner and sees Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00069-00022242-00022522 his Target standing not five feet away Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00070-00022523-00022900 from him the voices go quiet Harry knows Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00071-00022901-00023171 that he has been spotted and he is Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00072-00023172-00023453 prepared for a confrontation suddenly Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00073-00023454-00023849 the shadow pulls out a gun and points it Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00074-00023850-00024214 directly at Harry's chest Harry quickly Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00075-00024215-00024544 pulls his own gun and fires a single Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00076-00024545-00024875 shot that strikes the Shadow's arm the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00077-00024876-00025258 shadow cries out in pain and drops his Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00078-00025259-00025589 weapon Harry takes this opportunity to Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00079-00025590-00025961 advance on the Shadow and quickly disarm Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00080-00025962-00026290 him team has the upper hand and is able Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00081-00026291-00026614 to rest the shadow after a long hand Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00082-00026616-00026951 difficult Pursuit Perry has finally Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00083-00026952-00027233 caught the Shadow and is able to bring Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00084-00027233-00027562 him to justice as Harry apprehends the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00085-00027563-00027958 shadow he can see the pain and fear on Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00086-00027960-00028223 the criminal's face he knows that he has Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00087-00028224-00028540 caught it dangerous ruthless killer who Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00088-00028541-00028924 was responsible for so much Bloodshed he Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00089-00028925-00029140 knows that he has done something great Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00090-00029141-00029662 and he feels satisfied and proud after a Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00091-00029663-00029951 long and dangerous Pursuit Harry has Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00092-00029952-00030239 finally brought the shadow to Justice Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00093-00030239-00030629 his tireless work and dedication to his Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00094-00030630-00030964 work has paid off and he has made Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00095-00030966-00031108 safer place Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00096-00031110-00031439 is heroic explodes make him a legend Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00097-00031439-00031762 among detectives and police officers Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00098-00031763-00032087 alike Harry knows that this is just the Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00099-00032088-00032368 first of many victories to come Harry's Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00100-00032369-00032620 victory over the shadow as his first Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00101-00032622-00033059 major success as an investigator and it Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00102-00033060-00033274 lays the groundwork for many more to Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00103-00033275-00033539 come the shadow was a ruthless and Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00104-00033540-00033821 dangerous criminal who had been plaguing Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00105-00033822-00034133 the city forwards and Harry took him Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00106-00034134-00034385 down using nothing but his skills Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00107-00034386-00034733 intellect and resilience is Victory Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00108-00034734-00035021 sends a clear message to criminals Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00109-00035022-00035333 everywhere that they will not be able to Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00110-00035334-00035646 continue their reign of terror unchecked Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00111-00035647-00035987 Harry's success also inspires a new Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00112-00035988-00036268 generation of detectives and law Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00113-00036269-00036593 enforcement officials who look up to him Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00114-00036594-00036935 as a role model and a hero Harris Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00115-00036936-00037229 Triumph is his Shining example of what Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00116-00037230-00037477 can be accomplished through dedication Hq8Ax4ohYTY-00117-00037478-00037856 and determination HrrWL53qCWE-00000-00001457-00001963 hello hi everybody everybody still have HrrWL53qCWE-00001-00001964-00002125 energy at the end of the day we're still HrrWL53qCWE-00002-00002126-00002797 here attending I'm sorry what so all HrrWL53qCWE-00003-00002798-00002952 right i want to start this with what is HrrWL53qCWE-00004-00002953-00003150 going to seem like possibly an unrelated HrrWL53qCWE-00005-00003151-00003600 question how far do you live from an HrrWL53qCWE-00006-00003601-00003840 airport the closest airport think about HrrWL53qCWE-00007-00003842-00004003 what you were gonna think about what you HrrWL53qCWE-00008-00004004-00004135 would say about that you could say it HrrWL53qCWE-00009-00004136-00004363 out loud or not or you know just think HrrWL53qCWE-00010-00004364-00004663 about it I went when I when this HrrWL53qCWE-00011-00004664-00004863 question comes up I have no problem HrrWL53qCWE-00012-00004864-00005224 saying that I live 20 minutes from an HrrWL53qCWE-00013-00005225-00005608 airport that's basically factual as far HrrWL53qCWE-00014-00005609-00005781 as I'm concerned like I will drop that HrrWL53qCWE-00015-00005782-00006063 into conversation but of course that's HrrWL53qCWE-00016-00006064-00006470 not really true that's dependent on a HrrWL53qCWE-00017-00006472-00006885 series of assumptions it assumes for HrrWL53qCWE-00018-00006886-00007216 example that I'm in a car walking to the HrrWL53qCWE-00019-00007217-00007449 airport in my case O'Hare would take a HrrWL53qCWE-00020-00007450-00007656 lot longer it assumes the weather is HrrWL53qCWE-00021-00007658-00007881 good which in Chicago is dicey for by HrrWL53qCWE-00022-00007883-00008145 half the year it assumes that it's not HrrWL53qCWE-00023-00008147-00008338 rush hour which means that Stacey for HrrWL53qCWE-00024-00008339-00008524 another like ten percent of the day HrrWL53qCWE-00025-00008525-00008794 nothing untoward happens like blowing up HrrWL53qCWE-00026-00008795-00009064 a tire on my way here yesterday I HrrWL53qCWE-00027-00009065-00009280 learned another assumption which is the HrrWL53qCWE-00028-00009281-00009439 assumption that the cab driver takes the HrrWL53qCWE-00029-00009440-00009691 optimal route to the airport if the cab HrrWL53qCWE-00030-00009692-00009846 driver messes around in the back roads HrrWL53qCWE-00031-00009847-00009988 of my suburb it takes a couple minutes HrrWL53qCWE-00032-00009989-00010378 longer despite that despite the fact HrrWL53qCWE-00033-00010379-00010837 that all of these factors we conspire to HrrWL53qCWE-00034-00010838-00011152 make my trip longer okay I still say HrrWL53qCWE-00035-00011153-00011317 that my trip to the airport takes 20 HrrWL53qCWE-00036-00011318-00011437 minutes even though there's no way it HrrWL53qCWE-00037-00011438-00011596 could possibly take less than 20 minutes HrrWL53qCWE-00038-00011597-00012081 unless I went unless i teleported and HrrWL53qCWE-00039-00012082-00012427 and all kinds of ways for it to take HrrWL53qCWE-00040-00012428-00012856 longer in other words and I still find HrrWL53qCWE-00041-00012857-00013171 this 20 minute estimate for lack of a HrrWL53qCWE-00042-00013172-00013425 better term to be so valuable that I use HrrWL53qCWE-00043-00013426-00013603 it and I don't even know the actual HrrWL53qCWE-00044-00013604-00013777 distance that I live from the airport in HrrWL53qCWE-00045-00013778-00014053 miles I only know it in minutes even HrrWL53qCWE-00046-00014054-00014406 though it's problematic so my name is HrrWL53qCWE-00047-00014407-00014746 Noel wrappin this talk is 20-30 minutes HrrWL53qCWE-00048-00014747-00014847 i realized i had more HrrWL53qCWE-00049-00014849-00015022 I'm in the slot so it's 30 minutes give HrrWL53qCWE-00050-00015022-00015205 or take 10 it's going to be very HrrWL53qCWE-00051-00015206-00015372 embarrassing when I go over at the end HrrWL53qCWE-00052-00015374-00015577 so let's get that out of the way right HrrWL53qCWE-00053-00015578-00015976 now I work for cable XII which is a HrrWL53qCWE-00054-00015977-00016213 consult consulting firm in Chicago if HrrWL53qCWE-00055-00016213-00016423 you need consultants in Chicago or you HrrWL53qCWE-00056-00016424-00016627 want to be a consultant in Chicago come HrrWL53qCWE-00057-00016628-00016762 find me at some point over the next HrrWL53qCWE-00058-00016763-00016942 couple of days or if you just want a HrrWL53qCWE-00059-00016943-00017119 nice green circle sticker with an ex eye HrrWL53qCWE-00060-00017120-00017278 on it I have a bunch of those as well HrrWL53qCWE-00061-00017279-00017497 you can also follow me on twitter at an HrrWL53qCWE-00062-00017498-00017674 oil wrap if you wanted to say something HrrWL53qCWE-00063-00017675-00017914 about this talk or just say hi in HrrWL53qCWE-00064-00017915-00018172 general my qualifications we're talking HrrWL53qCWE-00065-00018173-00018427 about estimates well once upon a time I HrrWL53qCWE-00066-00018428-00018625 gave an entire full day workshop that HrrWL53qCWE-00067-00018626-00018811 ended exactly at four o'clock on the dot HrrWL53qCWE-00068-00018812-00019090 as scheduled as evidenced by this one HrrWL53qCWE-00069-00019091-00019561 tweet from one guy sometime and since I HrrWL53qCWE-00070-00019562-00019849 actually got an estimate right once I HrrWL53qCWE-00071-00019850-00020071 think I'm very qualified to talk about HrrWL53qCWE-00072-00020072-00020536 estimate I'm also this is also slightly HrrWL53qCWE-00073-00020537-00020734 idios I'm also slightly idiosyncratic HrrWL53qCWE-00074-00020735-00020977 about this you will probably disagree HrrWL53qCWE-00075-00020978-00021331 with some of this many people do people HrrWL53qCWE-00076-00021332-00021583 are somehow successful even if they do HrrWL53qCWE-00077-00021584-00021727 estimates a different way than I do I HrrWL53qCWE-00078-00021728-00021877 don't know how that works but apparently HrrWL53qCWE-00079-00021878-00022135 they are and that's fine this is this is HrrWL53qCWE-00080-00022136-00022261 a way that works for me and it's a HrrWL53qCWE-00081-00022262-00022483 method that works for me and you may do HrrWL53qCWE-00082-00022484-00022615 something different or have different HrrWL53qCWE-00083-00022616-00022909 opinions in that's fine so one thing HrrWL53qCWE-00084-00022910-00023155 that you hear about estimates is that HrrWL53qCWE-00085-00023156-00023455 developers are bad at them I think HrrWL53qCWE-00086-00023456-00023581 that's something that almost everybody HrrWL53qCWE-00087-00023582-00023727 in this room is probably heard the HrrWL53qCWE-00088-00023728-00023947 developments suck developers are bad at HrrWL53qCWE-00089-00023948-00024217 then we can't do it right and sometimes HrrWL53qCWE-00090-00024218-00024544 that you question is like our software HrrWL53qCWE-00091-00024545-00024814 developers uniquely bad at estimates is HrrWL53qCWE-00092-00024815-00024928 this sometimes you hear a phrase like HrrWL53qCWE-00093-00024929-00025138 that we are so bad that we have problems HrrWL53qCWE-00094-00025139-00025324 that no other industry has because of HrrWL53qCWE-00095-00025325-00025579 our estimates and the only thing I can HrrWL53qCWE-00096-00025580-00025693 say to something like that is that HrrWL53qCWE-00097-00025694-00025861 people who say something like that have HrrWL53qCWE-00098-00025862-00026032 obviously never been involved in any HrrWL53qCWE-00099-00026033-00026264 kind of home remodeling or a HrrWL53qCWE-00100-00026266-00026545 construction project or involving any HrrWL53qCWE-00101-00026545-00026722 kind of home contractor because that is HrrWL53qCWE-00102-00026723-00026964 an entire industry that is dedicated to HrrWL53qCWE-00103-00026964-00027229 time overruns and cost overruns and has HrrWL53qCWE-00104-00027230-00027481 an entire vocabulary dedicated basically HrrWL53qCWE-00105-00027482-00027754 to scope creep and it has a lot of HrrWL53qCWE-00106-00027755-00027955 similarities to software in that a lot HrrWL53qCWE-00107-00027956-00028126 of times you don't really understand the HrrWL53qCWE-00108-00028127-00028227 problem until you HrrWL53qCWE-00109-00028228-00028335 try to solve it you know you don't HrrWL53qCWE-00110-00028336-00028527 really know what's behind the wall and HrrWL53qCWE-00111-00028528-00028804 tear you till you tear the wall down and HrrWL53qCWE-00112-00028805-00028968 it has very similar pressures in terms HrrWL53qCWE-00113-00028969-00029326 of a pressure to deliver an initial HrrWL53qCWE-00114-00029327-00029607 estimate that's low for obvious reasons HrrWL53qCWE-00115-00029608-00029730 for video to make a sale or for other HrrWL53qCWE-00116-00029731-00030057 reasons or I can point you to this this HrrWL53qCWE-00117-00030058-00030390 is Boston's Big Dig the people here live HrrWL53qCWE-00118-00030391-00030573 in Boston near Boston I lived in Boston HrrWL53qCWE-00119-00030574-00030823 for a pretty good chunk of this this was HrrWL53qCWE-00120-00030824-00031002 the most ambitious public works project HrrWL53qCWE-00121-00031003-00031254 in America and the 2000s it was an HrrWL53qCWE-00122-00031255-00031461 attempt a successful attempt to replace HrrWL53qCWE-00123-00031462-00031698 the north-south overpass highway through HrrWL53qCWE-00124-00031699-00031836 Boston with a series of north-south HrrWL53qCWE-00125-00031837-00032139 tunnels it occurred to me as I was HrrWL53qCWE-00126-00032140-00032304 putting this together that in reference HrrWL53qCWE-00127-00032305-00032523 to the airport analogy it also involved HrrWL53qCWE-00128-00032524-00032718 an exciting game of how will we get to HrrWL53qCWE-00129-00032719-00032955 the airport this week for about two HrrWL53qCWE-00130-00032956-00033218 years as the access roads got messed up HrrWL53qCWE-00131-00033219-00033632 the Big Dig was originally estimated at HrrWL53qCWE-00132-00033633-00033930 5.8 billion dollars which is a lot of HrrWL53qCWE-00133-00033931-00034296 money it came in a tiny bit over that at HrrWL53qCWE-00134-00034297-00034788 a mere 20 1.93 and Counting because HrrWL53qCWE-00135-00034789-00034917 they're still fixing a couple things HrrWL53qCWE-00136-00034918-00035040 that weren't installed correctly the HrrWL53qCWE-00137-00035041-00035421 first time so estimation is not just our HrrWL53qCWE-00138-00035422-00035601 problem there are other industries and HrrWL53qCWE-00139-00035602-00035787 there are other kinds of engineering HrrWL53qCWE-00140-00035788-00035998 they have similar issues when trying to HrrWL53qCWE-00141-00035999-00036237 come up with a time or a money estimate HrrWL53qCWE-00142-00036238-00036579 for the work that they do but software HrrWL53qCWE-00143-00036580-00036783 we have we have a slightly more unique HrrWL53qCWE-00144-00036784-00037029 solution because it's least in theory HrrWL53qCWE-00145-00037030-00037251 easier to change software estimates and HrrWL53qCWE-00146-00037252-00037398 move software around than it is to move HrrWL53qCWE-00147-00037399-00037698 walls or giant earth tunnels underneath HrrWL53qCWE-00148-00037699-00037875 Boston or things like that so HrrWL53qCWE-00149-00037876-00038010 potentially there's something that we HrrWL53qCWE-00150-00038011-00038404 can do about it some people sometimes HrrWL53qCWE-00151-00038405-00038610 you will hear now the suggestion of HrrWL53qCWE-00152-00038611-00038785 people who think about agile projects HrrWL53qCWE-00153-00038786-00039033 that we don't estimate that software HrrWL53qCWE-00154-00039034-00039232 estimates are so bad that they're HrrWL53qCWE-00155-00039233-00039535 actually a net negative to project HrrWL53qCWE-00156-00039536-00039837 success or project happiness and so they HrrWL53qCWE-00157-00039838-00039996 will you can find these people sometimes HrrWL53qCWE-00158-00039997-00040182 the no estimates is sometimes a hashtag HrrWL53qCWE-00159-00040183-00040648 or a sort of rallying cry on blog post HrrWL53qCWE-00160-00040649-00040767 or whatever and they suggest that we HrrWL53qCWE-00161-00040768-00041004 don't estimate and that we just do stuff HrrWL53qCWE-00162-00041005-00041236 and get paid the ideal world here is HrrWL53qCWE-00163-00041237-00041475 that you continually are in a very tight HrrWL53qCWE-00164-00041476-00041614 feedback cycle where you take HrrWL53qCWE-00165-00041615-00041785 highest priority task remaining you do HrrWL53qCWE-00166-00041786-00042091 it until you're done or the client runs HrrWL53qCWE-00167-00042092-00042361 out of money or gets mad or some HrrWL53qCWE-00168-00042362-00042598 combination of all of those things so HrrWL53qCWE-00169-00042599-00042895 you can just do stuff and get paid and I HrrWL53qCWE-00170-00042896-00043273 can imagine this working in maybe a HrrWL53qCWE-00171-00043274-00043423 start-up environment a product HrrWL53qCWE-00172-00043424-00043657 environment where you don't really have HrrWL53qCWE-00173-00043658-00043873 a deadline or customers or clients and HrrWL53qCWE-00174-00043874-00044098 there is enough money to cover all of HrrWL53qCWE-00175-00044099-00044365 this but I'm a consultant working with HrrWL53qCWE-00176-00044366-00044539 clients with tight budgets and it feels HrrWL53qCWE-00177-00044540-00044782 somewhat similar to me saying like we're HrrWL53qCWE-00178-00044783-00044929 just going to tear up your kitchen and HrrWL53qCWE-00179-00044930-00045169 you just keep writing me $15,000 checks HrrWL53qCWE-00180-00045170-00045412 and eventually you'll probably get your HrrWL53qCWE-00181-00045413-00045751 kitchen back it is not effective it's HrrWL53qCWE-00182-00045752-00045969 not it's not useful to our customers HrrWL53qCWE-00183-00045970-00046360 customers I think reasonably expect to HrrWL53qCWE-00184-00046361-00046519 have some kind of idea what they're HrrWL53qCWE-00185-00046520-00046645 getting into you before they start a HrrWL53qCWE-00186-00046646-00046843 project and it is on us to give them HrrWL53qCWE-00187-00046844-00047223 some sort of good faith plan to do that HrrWL53qCWE-00188-00047224-00047509 you sometimes hear that projects don't HrrWL53qCWE-00189-00047510-00047842 fail for technical reasons project fail HrrWL53qCWE-00190-00047843-00048106 in part for communication reasons and I HrrWL53qCWE-00191-00048107-00048310 think estimates are a very important HrrWL53qCWE-00192-00048311-00048583 piece of communication between the team HrrWL53qCWE-00193-00048584-00048730 that's doing the work and the team that HrrWL53qCWE-00194-00048731-00048952 is paying for the work managing the work HrrWL53qCWE-00195-00048953-00049168 covering the work but you have to be HrrWL53qCWE-00196-00049169-00049288 careful with it because it's HrrWL53qCWE-00197-00049289-00049414 communication that has dollar signs HrrWL53qCWE-00198-00049415-00049624 attached you know anything that gets a HrrWL53qCWE-00199-00049625-00049816 number attached suddenly acquires a HrrWL53qCWE-00200-00049817-00050026 certain weight and a certain gravity and HrrWL53qCWE-00201-00050027-00050194 discussion and it's hard to move it and HrrWL53qCWE-00202-00050195-00050443 especially once you put a dollar sign on HrrWL53qCWE-00203-00050444-00050764 something no matter how crazy or HrrWL53qCWE-00204-00050765-00050950 half-assed your process was to get to HrrWL53qCWE-00205-00050951-00051139 that dollar sign once you put a dollar HrrWL53qCWE-00206-00051140-00051349 sign on it in the line in the mind of HrrWL53qCWE-00207-00051350-00051490 the person that's you were talking to HrrWL53qCWE-00208-00051491-00051694 that is a real thing and you need to HrrWL53qCWE-00209-00051695-00051991 take that into account in future HrrWL53qCWE-00210-00051991-00052396 discussions so if estimates are HrrWL53qCWE-00211-00052397-00052591 communication what are they HrrWL53qCWE-00212-00052591-00052830 communicating well you're communicating HrrWL53qCWE-00213-00052832-00053011 I think you know the most basic level HrrWL53qCWE-00214-00053012-00053278 you're communicating the investment in HrrWL53qCWE-00215-00053279-00053422 this case not just the monetary HrrWL53qCWE-00216-00053423-00053592 investment you're communicating all the HrrWL53qCWE-00217-00053594-00053752 things that the people need that need to HrrWL53qCWE-00218-00053753-00053991 be provided to the development team in HrrWL53qCWE-00219-00053992-00054307 order to get the project done so that is HrrWL53qCWE-00220-00054308-00054628 money it's time it's potentially a HrrWL53qCWE-00221-00054629-00054855 certain amount of requirements analysis HrrWL53qCWE-00222-00054857-00055060 some kind of data format some sort of HrrWL53qCWE-00223-00055061-00055288 business plan all of those things can be HrrWL53qCWE-00224-00055289-00055692 part of the estimation process the HrrWL53qCWE-00225-00055694-00055834 estimate also enables you to communicate HrrWL53qCWE-00226-00055835-00056077 progress it's kind of hard to say you're HrrWL53qCWE-00227-00056078-00056236 fifty percent done if you don't know HrrWL53qCWE-00228-00056237-00056554 what done is estimates estimates help HrrWL53qCWE-00229-00056554-00056851 you define what is in scope and what is HrrWL53qCWE-00230-00056852-00057058 out of scope for the purposes of being HrrWL53qCWE-00231-00057059-00057166 done so that's the other thing that HrrWL53qCWE-00232-00057166-00057492 estimates communicate is is scope so HrrWL53qCWE-00233-00057494-00057682 this is these are all things that need HrrWL53qCWE-00234-00057683-00057969 to be done as part of a good project and HrrWL53qCWE-00235-00057970-00058270 talking about the estimate in the and HrrWL53qCWE-00236-00058271-00058696 planning it is a really good framework HrrWL53qCWE-00237-00058697-00058939 for communicating and getting that HrrWL53qCWE-00238-00058940-00059320 shared understanding up front okay but a HrrWL53qCWE-00239-00059321-00059515 bad estimate does have consequences HrrWL53qCWE-00240-00059516-00059722 we've all probably many of us have HrrWL53qCWE-00241-00059723-00059926 probably been on projects where there HrrWL53qCWE-00242-00059927-00060121 was an unrealistic accident up front and HrrWL53qCWE-00243-00060122-00060286 that creates an unrealistic expectation HrrWL53qCWE-00244-00060287-00060511 and it creates a lot of bad pressures on HrrWL53qCWE-00245-00060512-00060847 the development team a bad cycle that HrrWL53qCWE-00246-00060848-00061114 leads to poor work and slipping estimate HrrWL53qCWE-00247-00061115-00061420 slipping guidelines even further and bad HrrWL53qCWE-00248-00061421-00061660 estimates also are badly used estimates HrrWL53qCWE-00249-00061661-00061915 also allow for a certain kind of HrrWL53qCWE-00250-00061916-00062047 micromanaging where it becomes HrrWL53qCWE-00251-00062048-00062296 critically important that you know you HrrWL53qCWE-00252-00062297-00062461 said this report you said that this HrrWL53qCWE-00253-00062462-00062580 reporting feature was going to be done HrrWL53qCWE-00254-00062582-00062914 on Tuesday it's Thursday where is it and HrrWL53qCWE-00255-00062915-00063229 that can't allow that kind of very very HrrWL53qCWE-00256-00063229-00063388 fine-grained managing whether it comes HrrWL53qCWE-00257-00063389-00063511 from a client or from your actual HrrWL53qCWE-00258-00063512-00063721 manager something like that can also be HrrWL53qCWE-00259-00063722-00063925 really counterproductive in the course HrrWL53qCWE-00260-00063926-00064258 of a project so one thing one then so if HrrWL53qCWE-00261-00064259-00064423 bad estimates do that really I think we HrrWL53qCWE-00262-00064424-00064696 should just do good estimates the HrrWL53qCWE-00263-00064697-00064870 easiest way that I know of is to do good HrrWL53qCWE-00264-00064871-00065065 to do good estimates is to wait until HrrWL53qCWE-00265-00065066-00065272 the end of the project and then produce HrrWL53qCWE-00266-00065273-00065536 your estimate this is an underrated HrrWL53qCWE-00267-00065537-00065869 technique that I've seen actually used HrrWL53qCWE-00268-00065870-00066046 at large companies when they produce the HrrWL53qCWE-00269-00066047-00066202 estimate at the end to cover and retro HrrWL53qCWE-00270-00066203-00066538 actively cover their budgets however HrrWL53qCWE-00271-00066539-00066739 most of the time you actually need to HrrWL53qCWE-00272-00066740-00066928 produce an estimate at the beginning of HrrWL53qCWE-00273-00066929-00067087 the project and estimating at the HrrWL53qCWE-00274-00067088-00067249 beginning of the project is basically HrrWL53qCWE-00275-00067250-00067624 the worst you don't know anything gary HrrWL53qCWE-00276-00067625-00067822 was talking about no none known unknowns HrrWL53qCWE-00277-00067823-00068002 and unknown unknowns the beginning of a HrrWL53qCWE-00278-00068003-00068142 project you have the most HrrWL53qCWE-00279-00068143-00068457 nones of all kinds known and unknown and HrrWL53qCWE-00280-00068458-00068637 this is something that only HrrWL53qCWE-00281-00068638-00068763 incrementally gets better but HrrWL53qCWE-00282-00068764-00069084 unfortunately a client's insist on HrrWL53qCWE-00283-00069085-00069330 knowing an estimate at the beginning you HrrWL53qCWE-00284-00069331-00069476 know this is a little bit like trying to HrrWL53qCWE-00285-00069477-00069588 figure out how much time it's going to HrrWL53qCWE-00286-00069589-00069756 go to the airport it's going to take you HrrWL53qCWE-00287-00069757-00069891 to get to the airport if you don't even HrrWL53qCWE-00288-00069892-00070122 know where the airport is or haven't HrrWL53qCWE-00289-00070123-00070263 even decided if you're going to need to HrrWL53qCWE-00290-00070264-00070851 fly yet so what can make an estimate at HrrWL53qCWE-00291-00070852-00071037 the beginning of a project effective HrrWL53qCWE-00292-00071038-00071313 even when we know nothing about the HrrWL53qCWE-00293-00071314-00071501 project or very little about the details HrrWL53qCWE-00294-00071502-00071706 of it so I'm going to talk about a HrrWL53qCWE-00295-00071707-00071868 couple of different processes by which HrrWL53qCWE-00296-00071869-00072054 you can create an estimate first of all HrrWL53qCWE-00297-00072055-00072207 an estimate that sort of works over the HrrWL53qCWE-00298-00072208-00072444 running life of a project and then how HrrWL53qCWE-00299-00072445-00072638 to modify that to create an estimate HrrWL53qCWE-00300-00072639-00072765 that might work at the beginning of a HrrWL53qCWE-00301-00072766-00073007 project and it's going to have a rare of HrrWL53qCWE-00302-00073008-00073301 a reasonably good chance of success it's HrrWL53qCWE-00303-00073302-00073538 worked for me in the past but first I HrrWL53qCWE-00304-00073539-00073653 need to make sure that we're all clear HrrWL53qCWE-00305-00073654-00073863 on a couple of agile project software HrrWL53qCWE-00306-00073864-00074019 terms because I'm going to use them and HrrWL53qCWE-00307-00074020-00074178 I want to make sure we're all have a HrrWL53qCWE-00308-00074179-00074400 common definition so we're going to talk HrrWL53qCWE-00309-00074401-00074712 about a feature or a story which is the HrrWL53qCWE-00310-00074713-00075024 unit of work in a project typically HrrWL53qCWE-00311-00075025-00075257 they're relatively small on the order of HrrWL53qCWE-00312-00075258-00075528 a couple of days or a week or so ideally HrrWL53qCWE-00313-00075529-00075723 less the main thing about them is that HrrWL53qCWE-00314-00075724-00076071 they are at least in theory independent HrrWL53qCWE-00315-00076072-00076230 of each other and independently HrrWL53qCWE-00316-00076231-00076461 verifiable by the customer or the HrrWL53qCWE-00317-00076462-00076611 manager that when they're as to when HrrWL53qCWE-00318-00076612-00077016 they're done okay in iteration is the HrrWL53qCWE-00319-00077017-00077199 unit of planning and an agile project HrrWL53qCWE-00320-00077200-00077442 it's typically one or two weeks and HrrWL53qCWE-00321-00077443-00077613 ideally the way that this works as you HrrWL53qCWE-00322-00077614-00077799 think about how you at the beginning of HrrWL53qCWE-00323-00077800-00077949 each iteration the team gets together HrrWL53qCWE-00324-00077950-00078159 they talk about what stories they're HrrWL53qCWE-00325-00078160-00078288 going to complete over this iteration HrrWL53qCWE-00326-00078289-00078516 and that's how that does that's the HrrWL53qCWE-00327-00078517-00078660 cadence of which planning it's done in HrrWL53qCWE-00328-00078661-00079068 iteration project point is the size of a HrrWL53qCWE-00329-00079069-00079232 story and we'll talk more about exactly HrrWL53qCWE-00330-00079233-00079665 what points are in a second hopefully HrrWL53qCWE-00331-00079666-00080223 that'll just come back and then velocity HrrWL53qCWE-00332-00080224-00080426 which is the most important number which HrrWL53qCWE-00333-00080427-00080715 is the number of points that you can do HrrWL53qCWE-00334-00080716-00080901 in an iteration and the way that you use HrrWL53qCWE-00335-00080902-00081151 that is to be able to say HrrWL53qCWE-00336-00081152-00081415 I have done we've done 10 points in this HrrWL53qCWE-00337-00081416-00081556 iteration we can do 10 points in the HrrWL53qCWE-00338-00081557-00081709 next iteration we can do 10 points in HrrWL53qCWE-00339-00081710-00081934 the aeration after that we have about a HrrWL53qCWE-00340-00081935-00082099 hundred points left in the project so we HrrWL53qCWE-00341-00082100-00082282 have about ten iterations to go that's HrrWL53qCWE-00342-00082283-00082462 that's those are those are the kinds of HrrWL53qCWE-00343-00082463-00082948 sentences that you say so here's a HrrWL53qCWE-00344-00082949-00083122 theory about how to do this or a couple HrrWL53qCWE-00345-00083123-00083413 of things that work or that I have HrrWL53qCWE-00346-00083414-00083704 worked for me the first thing to think HrrWL53qCWE-00347-00083705-00083884 of when you start thinking about whether HrrWL53qCWE-00348-00083885-00084070 how to create an estimate is that HrrWL53qCWE-00349-00084071-00084304 there's two different scales here we're HrrWL53qCWE-00350-00084305-00084475 talking about estimating the entire HrrWL53qCWE-00351-00084476-00084664 project like this will be able to go HrrWL53qCWE-00352-00084665-00084943 live on December 15th versus estimating HrrWL53qCWE-00353-00084944-00085165 individual features I can get this HrrWL53qCWE-00354-00085166-00085402 reporting feature done by tuesday okay HrrWL53qCWE-00355-00085403-00085681 and the first thing to realize in HrrWL53qCWE-00356-00085682-00085888 creating a successful estimate over the HrrWL53qCWE-00357-00085889-00086158 life of a project is that nobody really HrrWL53qCWE-00358-00086159-00086425 cares about the fine-grained feature HrrWL53qCWE-00359-00086426-00086608 estimates there's a whole lot of effort HrrWL53qCWE-00360-00086609-00086886 put into them and yet at the same time HrrWL53qCWE-00361-00086887-00087166 really it's not important over the life HrrWL53qCWE-00362-00087167-00087358 cycle of a project whether an individual HrrWL53qCWE-00363-00087359-00087543 feature is done on tuesday or thursday HrrWL53qCWE-00364-00087544-00087808 or it takes a little bit less or a HrrWL53qCWE-00365-00087809-00088048 little bit longer over time over the HrrWL53qCWE-00366-00088049-00088267 life cycle of a project that is not the HrrWL53qCWE-00367-00088268-00088447 important part the important part is HrrWL53qCWE-00368-00088448-00088633 when you can actually go live and when HrrWL53qCWE-00369-00088634-00088909 people use stuff the important thing is HrrWL53qCWE-00370-00088910-00089208 the aggregate not the individual the HrrWL53qCWE-00371-00089209-00089413 individual estimates are only useful HrrWL53qCWE-00372-00089414-00089533 because they are the building blocks HrrWL53qCWE-00373-00089534-00089722 that you use to get to the aggregate HrrWL53qCWE-00374-00089723-00090246 estimate and estimates are estimates HrrWL53qCWE-00375-00090247-00090622 they are in precise by nature if they HrrWL53qCWE-00376-00090623-00090840 were exactly would call the measurements HrrWL53qCWE-00377-00090841-00091435 but they are actually probabilistic if I HrrWL53qCWE-00378-00091436-00091639 look at weather report and it says the HrrWL53qCWE-00379-00091640-00092098 chance of rain is 50% and it rains was HrrWL53qCWE-00380-00092099-00092455 that forecast accurate it's actually you HrrWL53qCWE-00381-00092456-00092617 actually can't tell from one piece of HrrWL53qCWE-00382-00092618-00093055 data so you actually need like say 20 HrrWL53qCWE-00383-00093056-00093199 pieces of data it's actually may not HrrWL53qCWE-00384-00093200-00093328 even that might even matter with me HrrWL53qCWE-00385-00093329-00093508 enough but if it is I said there's a HrrWL53qCWE-00386-00093509-00093649 fifty percent chance of rain twenty HrrWL53qCWE-00387-00093650-00093898 times and it rained 11 of them you would HrrWL53qCWE-00388-00093899-00094063 say that that process is reasonable it's HrrWL53qCWE-00389-00094064-00094234 producing reasonable data if I say HrrWL53qCWE-00390-00094235-00094342 there's a chance of a fifty percent HrrWL53qCWE-00391-00094343-00094498 chance of rain 20 times in it HrrWL53qCWE-00392-00094499-00094771 four times then there's something wrong HrrWL53qCWE-00393-00094772-00095017 in my process I'm overestimating the HrrWL53qCWE-00394-00095018-00095307 chance of rain and as a hint weather HrrWL53qCWE-00395-00095308-00095491 forecasters overestimate the chance of HrrWL53qCWE-00396-00095492-00095743 rain because if they say it's going to HrrWL53qCWE-00397-00095744-00095998 rain and it doesn't rain nobody gets mad HrrWL53qCWE-00398-00095999-00096118 at them but if they say that it isn't HrrWL53qCWE-00399-00096119-00096304 going to rain and it does rain people HrrWL53qCWE-00400-00096305-00096553 get really upset so that's in some ways HrrWL53qCWE-00401-00096554-00096700 it's actually a very similar pressure to HrrWL53qCWE-00402-00096701-00096937 what we have on software estimates so HrrWL53qCWE-00403-00096938-00097132 similarly if I say this is a one point HrrWL53qCWE-00404-00097133-00097405 story and it takes me six hours that HrrWL53qCWE-00405-00097406-00097540 doesn't really say anything about the HrrWL53qCWE-00406-00097541-00097732 process by which i call this a one point HrrWL53qCWE-00407-00097733-00097906 story or about one point stories in the HrrWL53qCWE-00408-00097907-00098185 future what I need to do is have a bunch HrrWL53qCWE-00409-00098186-00098443 of stories that I call one point stories HrrWL53qCWE-00410-00098444-00098554 and see how long they take in the HrrWL53qCWE-00411-00098555-00098872 aggregate so this process only works in HrrWL53qCWE-00412-00098873-00099001 the aggregate and again I think one HrrWL53qCWE-00413-00099002-00099148 place were this kind of footwear people HrrWL53qCWE-00414-00099149-00099469 make where people go astray in this is HrrWL53qCWE-00415-00099470-00099754 starting to think that individual point HrrWL53qCWE-00416-00099755-00099934 estimates individual feature estimates HrrWL53qCWE-00417-00099935-00100141 have more validity than they actually do HrrWL53qCWE-00418-00100142-00100294 when in fact they only have validity in HrrWL53qCWE-00419-00100295-00100626 aggregate so when you look at this an HrrWL53qCWE-00420-00100627-00100794 aggregate you see that the kinds of HrrWL53qCWE-00421-00100795-00100978 things that can make this this kind of HrrWL53qCWE-00422-00100979-00101149 estimate go wrong our sort of larger HrrWL53qCWE-00423-00101150-00101301 scale things like I can talk about HrrWL53qCWE-00424-00101302-00101542 having made a bad assumption like I may HrrWL53qCWE-00425-00101543-00101743 have assumed that this reporting feature HrrWL53qCWE-00426-00101744-00101899 only needed to be delivered on the web HrrWL53qCWE-00427-00101900-00102151 but they also need CSV and PDF files HrrWL53qCWE-00428-00102152-00102316 that's an incorrect assumption on my HrrWL53qCWE-00429-00102317-00102538 part my point my part I might have HrrWL53qCWE-00430-00102539-00102807 misunderstood the problem you have scope HrrWL53qCWE-00431-00102808-00103011 creep where once they see once the user HrrWL53qCWE-00432-00103013-00103225 sees it then they're like oh you know HrrWL53qCWE-00433-00103226-00103351 the columns are in the wrong order I HrrWL53qCWE-00434-00103352-00103522 want to be able to alphabetize stuff I HrrWL53qCWE-00435-00103523-00103849 needed to be I need to be able to drag HrrWL53qCWE-00436-00103850-00104079 and drop columns or something like that HrrWL53qCWE-00437-00104080-00104326 those obviously those are outside HrrWL53qCWE-00438-00104327-00104511 additional estimates off the time a lot HrrWL53qCWE-00439-00104513-00104773 of the time there's unknown complexity I HrrWL53qCWE-00440-00104774-00104947 need this to integrate with paypal how HrrWL53qCWE-00441-00104948-00105250 hard can that be that kind of thing and HrrWL53qCWE-00442-00105251-00105418 then there's rework which developers I HrrWL53qCWE-00443-00105419-00105598 think overlooked a lot which is a very HrrWL53qCWE-00444-00105599-00105802 sort of the back and forth that goes HrrWL53qCWE-00445-00105803-00106132 along when a very that's not quite scope HrrWL53qCWE-00446-00106133-00106311 creep because it's more like this needs HrrWL53qCWE-00447-00106313-00106441 to be blue or it needs to be HrrWL53qCWE-00448-00106442-00106641 alphabetized it's not really adding HrrWL53qCWE-00449-00106642-00106849 scope it's just coming to a shared HrrWL53qCWE-00450-00106850-00107074 understanding of what it needs to be HrrWL53qCWE-00451-00107075-00107263 done and that's the kind of thing that HrrWL53qCWE-00452-00107264-00107401 we often don't consider when we're HrrWL53qCWE-00453-00107402-00107539 coming up with a time estimate as HrrWL53qCWE-00454-00107540-00107728 developers because as developers we tend HrrWL53qCWE-00455-00107729-00107872 to be optimistic HrrWL53qCWE-00456-00107873-00108070 both about our own abilities to solve a HrrWL53qCWE-00457-00108071-00108390 problem and about the amount of support HrrWL53qCWE-00458-00108391-00108751 time that it takes to get up get HrrWL53qCWE-00459-00108752-00108976 something to develop to to production as HrrWL53qCWE-00460-00108977-00109249 developers we tend to overlook project HrrWL53qCWE-00461-00109250-00109438 management time testing time deployment HrrWL53qCWE-00462-00109439-00109549 time that kind of stuff when we're HrrWL53qCWE-00463-00109550-00109900 creating individual estimates and of HrrWL53qCWE-00464-00109901-00110074 course sometimes there's pressure to HrrWL53qCWE-00465-00110075-00110239 create low estimates and that happens in HrrWL53qCWE-00466-00110240-00110433 a lot of different ways it can be a HrrWL53qCWE-00467-00110434-00110623 manager saying this has to be done by HrrWL53qCWE-00468-00110624-00110886 the 15th I don't care you have to be HrrWL53qCWE-00469-00110888-00111009 done by the 15th or else you're all HrrWL53qCWE-00470-00111010-00111228 fired when's it going to be done the HrrWL53qCWE-00471-00111229-00111574 15th or it can be like I know this is HrrWL53qCWE-00472-00111575-00111729 going to be a long conversation if I say HrrWL53qCWE-00473-00111730-00111853 that this feature is going to take three HrrWL53qCWE-00474-00111854-00112000 days because the clients not going to HrrWL53qCWE-00475-00112001-00112195 understand that it's much easier for me HrrWL53qCWE-00476-00112196-00112324 to just say it's going to take a day and HrrWL53qCWE-00477-00112325-00112578 deal with it on the other side or it can HrrWL53qCWE-00478-00112579-00112795 be something like I know that this is a HrrWL53qCWE-00479-00112796-00112948 four hundred thousand dollar project but HrrWL53qCWE-00480-00112949-00113074 I'm not going to be able to sell it at a HrrWL53qCWE-00481-00113075-00113208 four hundred thousand dollar project so HrrWL53qCWE-00482-00113209-00113395 I'm going to say it's a 250 thousand HrrWL53qCWE-00483-00113396-00113565 dollar project none of those things are HrrWL53qCWE-00484-00113566-00113794 exactly like the kind of shining lights HrrWL53qCWE-00485-00113795-00113979 of our profession but they're all things HrrWL53qCWE-00486-00113980-00114298 that happen but the problem is that is HrrWL53qCWE-00487-00114299-00114538 that giving something a lower estimate HrrWL53qCWE-00488-00114539-00114757 doesn't actually make the problem less HrrWL53qCWE-00489-00114758-00114907 complex it doesn't make it more likely HrrWL53qCWE-00490-00114908-00115078 to be finished by the 15th it doesn't HrrWL53qCWE-00491-00115079-00115203 actually make it a two hundred fifty HrrWL53qCWE-00492-00115204-00115423 thousand dollar project and it doesn't HrrWL53qCWE-00493-00115424-00115663 actually make it a one-day feature these HrrWL53qCWE-00494-00115664-00115771 are all you're all just you're just HrrWL53qCWE-00495-00115772-00115935 setting yourself up for much more HrrWL53qCWE-00496-00115936-00116281 difficult conversations later on which HrrWL53qCWE-00497-00116282-00116602 is I don't think it's a really great way HrrWL53qCWE-00498-00116603-00116883 to continue to run to run projects okay HrrWL53qCWE-00499-00116883-00117285 so to do better in terms of estimates HrrWL53qCWE-00500-00117286-00117598 you embrace the kind of uncertainty and HrrWL53qCWE-00501-00117599-00117871 don't chase false precision adding HrrWL53qCWE-00502-00117872-00118021 decimal points to estimates don't make HrrWL53qCWE-00503-00118022-00118201 them more accurate they just mean that HrrWL53qCWE-00504-00118202-00118335 you know how to use the divide key on HrrWL53qCWE-00505-00118336-00118531 your calculator it doesn't really tell HrrWL53qCWE-00506-00118532-00118918 us anything about the problem and it's HrrWL53qCWE-00507-00118919-00119218 also important to focus on the parts of HrrWL53qCWE-00508-00119219-00119358 the problem that people actually are HrrWL53qCWE-00509-00119359-00119691 pretty good at estimating so if you HrrWL53qCWE-00510-00119692-00119928 think about what if I take an individual HrrWL53qCWE-00511-00119929-00120261 feature like for example a reporting HrrWL53qCWE-00512-00120263-00120453 feature I need to create a bunch of HrrWL53qCWE-00513-00120454-00120636 administrative reports and I think how HrrWL53qCWE-00514-00120638-00120828 much calendar time that's going to take HrrWL53qCWE-00515-00120829-00121059 very broadly speaking there are three HrrWL53qCWE-00516-00121060-00121204 factors that go into that HrrWL53qCWE-00517-00121205-00121600 the actual complexity of the task how HrrWL53qCWE-00518-00121601-00121910 good the developer or the team is at at HrrWL53qCWE-00519-00121911-00122272 producing the code and how much time in HrrWL53qCWE-00520-00122273-00122398 that period they're going to actually be HrrWL53qCWE-00521-00122399-00122704 able to spend on the task those three HrrWL53qCWE-00522-00122705-00122914 factors together more or less combined HrrWL53qCWE-00523-00122915-00123325 it to be though all the work so let's HrrWL53qCWE-00524-00123326-00123496 look at those a little bit we're HrrWL53qCWE-00525-00123497-00123655 actually really bad at estimating how HrrWL53qCWE-00526-00123656-00123783 much time we're going to spend on a task HrrWL53qCWE-00527-00123784-00123960 we tend to be very optimistic about it HrrWL53qCWE-00528-00123961-00124174 if you've actually measured how much HrrWL53qCWE-00529-00124175-00124311 time you spend with your code editor HrrWL53qCWE-00530-00124313-00124474 open as opposed to something else open HrrWL53qCWE-00531-00124475-00124683 you probably found that that was an HrrWL53qCWE-00532-00124684-00124930 appallingly low number if you're me and HrrWL53qCWE-00533-00124931-00125113 got so frightened by doing that one so HrrWL53qCWE-00534-00125114-00125548 you swore never to do it again but it HrrWL53qCWE-00535-00125549-00125719 tends to be very consistent over time HrrWL53qCWE-00536-00125720-00125934 like my meeting schedule is basically HrrWL53qCWE-00537-00125935-00126079 the same from week to week i spend about HrrWL53qCWE-00538-00126080-00126261 the same amount of time at lunch from HrrWL53qCWE-00539-00126263-00126394 week to week i spent about the same HrrWL53qCWE-00540-00126395-00126534 amount of time on twitter from week to HrrWL53qCWE-00541-00126535-00126733 week over time this is a consistent HrrWL53qCWE-00542-00126733-00127138 number more or less okay the skill of HrrWL53qCWE-00543-00127139-00127396 the developer the second factor we're HrrWL53qCWE-00544-00127397-00127710 really really bad at thinking about how HrrWL53qCWE-00545-00127711-00127888 much time an individual developer is HrrWL53qCWE-00546-00127889-00128023 going to take on an individual feature HrrWL53qCWE-00547-00128024-00128281 and that's fine because a product as a HrrWL53qCWE-00548-00128282-00128542 project estimate is a horrible time for HrrWL53qCWE-00549-00128543-00128764 your team to be arguing over who's going HrrWL53qCWE-00550-00128765-00128929 to take more or less time on individual HrrWL53qCWE-00551-00128930-00129135 features it's very very bad for team HrrWL53qCWE-00552-00129136-00129358 morale to walk around saying like I know HrrWL53qCWE-00553-00129358-00129472 I'm sure you could get this done by HrrWL53qCWE-00554-00129473-00129633 Thursday but if I gave it to Bob you HrrWL53qCWE-00555-00129634-00129892 would have it done by tuesday that is HrrWL53qCWE-00556-00129893-00130141 not a good any metric that's not like HrrWL53qCWE-00557-00130142-00130291 when the whole team can deliver this HrrWL53qCWE-00558-00130292-00130456 project tends to be very destructive HrrWL53qCWE-00559-00130457-00130780 over time but if your team stays the HrrWL53qCWE-00560-00130781-00130996 same from week to week then your team HrrWL53qCWE-00561-00130997-00131191 skill tends to be consistent from week HrrWL53qCWE-00562-00131192-00131401 to week ideally they're actually getting HrrWL53qCWE-00563-00131402-00131515 a little bit better from week to week HrrWL53qCWE-00564-00131516-00131761 because they're learning stuff but for HrrWL53qCWE-00565-00131762-00131899 the purposes of this it's roughly HrrWL53qCWE-00566-00131900-00132241 consistent from week to week which gets HrrWL53qCWE-00567-00132242-00132583 us to complexity which developers are HrrWL53qCWE-00568-00132584-00132901 actually pretty good at estimating if I HrrWL53qCWE-00569-00132902-00133126 showed you five stories from our project HrrWL53qCWE-00570-00133127-00133381 I was working on even without context HrrWL53qCWE-00571-00133382-00133654 I'm really confident that we would have HrrWL53qCWE-00572-00133655-00133945 a very consistent sense of which of HrrWL53qCWE-00573-00133946-00134077 those features was the most complicated HrrWL53qCWE-00574-00134078-00134224 in which of those features was the least HrrWL53qCWE-00575-00134225-00134434 complicated and I'm even sure that we HrrWL53qCWE-00576-00134435-00134537 would be able to come up with HrrWL53qCWE-00577-00134538-00134846 pretty good rough relative complexity HrrWL53qCWE-00578-00134847-00135026 this features twice as complex this is HrrWL53qCWE-00579-00135027-00135185 one and a half times as complex that HrrWL53qCWE-00580-00135186-00135323 kind of it it's something that we have a HrrWL53qCWE-00581-00135324-00135578 very good sense of to think of it a HrrWL53qCWE-00582-00135579-00135797 little bit more graphically almost none HrrWL53qCWE-00583-00135798-00136001 of us could tell us how many blue HrrWL53qCWE-00584-00136002-00136145 diamonds it would take to fill up this HrrWL53qCWE-00585-00136146-00136457 entire slide but every single one of us HrrWL53qCWE-00586-00136458-00136586 will be able to say that it would take HrrWL53qCWE-00587-00136587-00136844 more red triangles to fill up this slide HrrWL53qCWE-00588-00136845-00137106 than blue diamonds and most of us would HrrWL53qCWE-00589-00137107-00137309 be able to say at a quick glance that it HrrWL53qCWE-00590-00137310-00137469 would take it's about a factor of four HrrWL53qCWE-00591-00137470-00137645 that the red diamond red triangle is HrrWL53qCWE-00592-00137646-00137919 about a quarter of the size of the blue HrrWL53qCWE-00593-00137920-00138407 diamond that's a kind of reasoning that HrrWL53qCWE-00594-00138408-00138701 developers are actually very good at so HrrWL53qCWE-00595-00138702-00138977 if we focus on that we estimate the HrrWL53qCWE-00596-00138978-00139160 complexity of each pride of each HrrWL53qCWE-00597-00139161-00139376 individual story and not try to think HrrWL53qCWE-00598-00139377-00139538 about how much time it's going to take HrrWL53qCWE-00599-00139539-00139888 and we just let the time sort itself out HrrWL53qCWE-00600-00139889-00140156 what we get is the classic definition of HrrWL53qCWE-00601-00140157-00140444 a point in an agile project which is a HrrWL53qCWE-00602-00140445-00140663 unit of complexity and not a unit of HrrWL53qCWE-00603-00140664-00140948 time okay if somebody starts talking to HrrWL53qCWE-00604-00140949-00141107 you and they're saying that a point HrrWL53qCWE-00605-00141108-00141393 should be about four hours or six hours HrrWL53qCWE-00606-00141394-00141587 or whatever and I'm going to say that in HrrWL53qCWE-00607-00141588-00141744 a restricted context in about ten HrrWL53qCWE-00608-00141745-00142031 minutes but if somebody says that they HrrWL53qCWE-00609-00142032-00142202 are either like completely wrong or HrrWL53qCWE-00610-00142203-00142544 oversimplifying or possibly both a point HrrWL53qCWE-00611-00142545-00142706 is a measure of complexity it's HrrWL53qCWE-00612-00142707-00142910 basically developed dimensionless teams HrrWL53qCWE-00613-00142911-00143063 tend to find their own levels on them HrrWL53qCWE-00614-00143064-00143282 like you more or less understand that a HrrWL53qCWE-00615-00143283-00143504 point is a simple story that we can get HrrWL53qCWE-00616-00143505-00143647 our heads on that doesn't have much HrrWL53qCWE-00617-00143648-00143876 individual logic and you sort of work up HrrWL53qCWE-00618-00143877-00144233 from there and what happens if you HrrWL53qCWE-00619-00144234-00144470 estimate everything in points is that HrrWL53qCWE-00620-00144471-00144620 you get to an understanding that your HrrWL53qCWE-00621-00144621-00144866 team can do ten points a week or 12 HrrWL53qCWE-00622-00144867-00144989 points or week or something like that HrrWL53qCWE-00623-00144990-00145229 and then all of the other stuff doesn't HrrWL53qCWE-00624-00145230-00145481 matter everything else averages out the HrrWL53qCWE-00625-00145482-00145685 amount of time i spend eating lunch the HrrWL53qCWE-00626-00145686-00145997 skill of the team you know our meeting HrrWL53qCWE-00627-00145998-00146216 schedule as long as it's all roughly HrrWL53qCWE-00628-00146217-00146396 consistent we don't care about HrrWL53qCWE-00629-00146397-00146619 estimating it individually all that HrrWL53qCWE-00630-00146620-00146783 happens is we found out that we can do HrrWL53qCWE-00631-00146784-00147093 12 points of work and as long as HrrWL53qCWE-00632-00147094-00147248 everything else is consistent which is a HrrWL53qCWE-00633-00147249-00147662 big as long as this is pretty robust it HrrWL53qCWE-00634-00147663-00147867 has a little bit of like up and down but HrrWL53qCWE-00635-00147868-00148047 time it can be very it can be pretty HrrWL53qCWE-00636-00148048-00148410 robust if you think about it it's a HrrWL53qCWE-00637-00148411-00148599 little bit like basing the estimate of HrrWL53qCWE-00638-00148600-00148791 going to the airport on how far it is to HrrWL53qCWE-00639-00148792-00149022 the airport and how fast I normally HrrWL53qCWE-00640-00149023-00149304 Drive which as you see if I put it that HrrWL53qCWE-00641-00149305-00149481 way that it's going to be roughly true HrrWL53qCWE-00642-00149482-00149898 but not precise but that's fine over a HrrWL53qCWE-00643-00149899-00150084 long period of time roughly true but not HrrWL53qCWE-00644-00150085-00150249 precise has a very strong tendency to HrrWL53qCWE-00645-00150250-00150612 even itself out but the important thing HrrWL53qCWE-00646-00150613-00150885 here is consistency in a couple of HrrWL53qCWE-00647-00150886-00151086 different dimensions like the team size HrrWL53qCWE-00648-00151087-00151263 needs to stay consistent adding and HrrWL53qCWE-00649-00151264-00151500 subtracting people to the team really HrrWL53qCWE-00650-00151501-00151674 messes with this or can really mess with HrrWL53qCWE-00651-00151675-00151878 this it's important that you're HrrWL53qCWE-00652-00151879-00152088 consistent in how you grade stories and HrrWL53qCWE-00653-00152089-00152310 that you also have roughly the same mix HrrWL53qCWE-00654-00152311-00152475 of small and big stories at all times HrrWL53qCWE-00655-00152476-00152733 helps it makes this a little bit weird HrrWL53qCWE-00656-00152734-00152928 if you have a few small if the number of HrrWL53qCWE-00657-00152929-00153288 really big stories changes a lot and the HrrWL53qCWE-00658-00153289-00153450 overall environment needs to be more or HrrWL53qCWE-00659-00153451-00153774 less consistent the hidden really hidden HrrWL53qCWE-00660-00153775-00154047 skill here is the ability to decompose HrrWL53qCWE-00661-00154048-00154233 your complicated problem into more or HrrWL53qCWE-00662-00154234-00154503 less similar sized chunks if you can do HrrWL53qCWE-00663-00154504-00154770 that like almost everything about HrrWL53qCWE-00664-00154771-00155075 creating estimates gets a lot easier HrrWL53qCWE-00665-00155076-00155325 that's really that that's the key HrrWL53qCWE-00666-00155326-00155577 important skill but you need a little HrrWL53qCWE-00667-00155578-00155748 bit of data for this to work like you HrrWL53qCWE-00668-00155749-00156042 really need two weeks or four weeks of HrrWL53qCWE-00669-00156043-00156339 six weeks of data to get a velocity that HrrWL53qCWE-00670-00156340-00156585 you can have any confidence in and the HrrWL53qCWE-00671-00156586-00156840 problem with that is it doesn't really HrrWL53qCWE-00672-00156841-00156966 help you estimate things at the HrrWL53qCWE-00673-00156967-00157287 beginning of a project and it's still a HrrWL53qCWE-00674-00157288-00157503 one-off estimate is still a problem like HrrWL53qCWE-00675-00157504-00157695 in a completed project when the client HrrWL53qCWE-00676-00157696-00157848 comes to you and says like I need one HrrWL53qCWE-00677-00157849-00157989 more thing how long as it's going to HrrWL53qCWE-00678-00157990-00158229 take like that's still problematic and HrrWL53qCWE-00679-00158230-00158550 there's it's almost a for most of the HrrWL53qCWE-00680-00158551-00158733 reasons we've already come out covered HrrWL53qCWE-00681-00158734-00158985 like it's hard it's still very hard to HrrWL53qCWE-00682-00158986-00159372 make that not problematic and we still HrrWL53qCWE-00683-00159373-00159618 have the problem of how to do anything HrrWL53qCWE-00684-00159619-00159783 at the beginning of a project before HrrWL53qCWE-00685-00159784-00160284 this data comes in so the technique that HrrWL53qCWE-00686-00160285-00160451 I use at the beginning of a project HrrWL53qCWE-00687-00160452-00160767 which I call kind of the worst way to do HrrWL53qCWE-00688-00160768-00160920 this except for every other way I've HrrWL53qCWE-00689-00160921-00161146 seen HrrWL53qCWE-00690-00161147-00161473 is to fake it not think your knowledge HrrWL53qCWE-00691-00161474-00161710 about the project but to fake your HrrWL53qCWE-00692-00161711-00161991 velocity you need to in order to make HrrWL53qCWE-00693-00161992-00162184 this work at all you need to make a HrrWL53qCWE-00694-00162185-00162361 rough guess of what how much time it's HrrWL53qCWE-00695-00162362-00162493 going to take your team to do a points HrrWL53qCWE-00696-00162494-00162898 worth of work but you can do it in a HrrWL53qCWE-00697-00162899-00163051 very kind of you in a very controlled HrrWL53qCWE-00698-00163052-00163339 way and with a sort of understanding of HrrWL53qCWE-00699-00163340-00163564 what you're doing don't spend a lot of HrrWL53qCWE-00700-00163565-00163803 time chasing precision here you're not HrrWL53qCWE-00701-00163804-00164095 going to get precision and spending time HrrWL53qCWE-00702-00164096-00164518 on it is just it's just a waste what we HrrWL53qCWE-00703-00164519-00164677 come out of this process with is an HrrWL53qCWE-00704-00164678-00164971 output that is a range of probabilities HrrWL53qCWE-00705-00164972-00165169 a range of a low estimate to a high HrrWL53qCWE-00706-00165170-00165414 estimate and how you present that to HrrWL53qCWE-00707-00165415-00165579 your manager your client is going to HrrWL53qCWE-00708-00165580-00165910 depend on your situation but what you HrrWL53qCWE-00709-00165911-00166336 what you get out of this is a low value HrrWL53qCWE-00710-00166337-00166531 and a high value so the way that this HrrWL53qCWE-00711-00166532-00166777 works is you take what you bet your best HrrWL53qCWE-00712-00166778-00166912 understanding of the scope of the HrrWL53qCWE-00713-00166913-00167131 project ideally use part of a process HrrWL53qCWE-00714-00167132-00167257 where you're creating this with the HrrWL53qCWE-00715-00167258-00167548 client and you split the tasks down as HrrWL53qCWE-00716-00167549-00167821 best you can in assign points to them in HrrWL53qCWE-00717-00167822-00168025 much the same way that we've already in HrrWL53qCWE-00718-00168026-00168121 the way that we've already talked about HrrWL53qCWE-00719-00168122-00168475 points existing so a one to one point HrrWL53qCWE-00720-00168476-00168748 task is easy and something to get your HrrWL53qCWE-00721-00168749-00169012 head around a three-point task has a bit HrrWL53qCWE-00722-00169013-00169219 of more complexity or risk I usually HrrWL53qCWE-00723-00169220-00169360 tend to spread the numbers out a little HrrWL53qCWE-00724-00169361-00169549 bit here a five-point task has more HrrWL53qCWE-00725-00169550-00169771 complexity or more risk traditionally HrrWL53qCWE-00726-00169772-00169929 people use Fibonacci's from here so the HrrWL53qCWE-00727-00169930-00170040 next number you would use is eight and HrrWL53qCWE-00728-00170041-00170308 then 13 to indicate more and more HrrWL53qCWE-00729-00170309-00170527 complexity or more and more risk don't HrrWL53qCWE-00730-00170528-00170701 spend a lot of time assigning points to HrrWL53qCWE-00731-00170702-00170940 a single task if you can't trying to HrrWL53qCWE-00732-00170941-00171148 argue over whether something is a one or HrrWL53qCWE-00733-00171149-00171346 a three is the kind of argument that you HrrWL53qCWE-00734-00171347-00171552 lose just by having it you can't HrrWL53qCWE-00735-00171553-00171775 possibly win that argument just roundup HrrWL53qCWE-00736-00171776-00171994 roundup will help rounding up will help HrrWL53qCWE-00737-00171995-00172140 with your consistency and it will HrrWL53qCWE-00738-00172141-00172312 counteract your normal tendency to be HrrWL53qCWE-00739-00172313-00172588 optimistic about this stuff at least a HrrWL53qCWE-00740-00172589-00172927 little bit and when i'm doing this HrrWL53qCWE-00741-00172928-00173110 estimate at the beginning of a talk and HrrWL53qCWE-00742-00173111-00173374 only at the beginning of a talk at the HrrWL53qCWE-00743-00173375-00173553 beginning of a project i will give HrrWL53qCWE-00744-00173554-00173887 stories arranged this reporting feature HrrWL53qCWE-00745-00173888-00174112 if this gem that we might use will HrrWL53qCWE-00746-00174113-00174252 actually work then it's a three-point HrrWL53qCWE-00747-00174253-00174406 story if it doesn't work then it's an HrrWL53qCWE-00748-00174407-00174523 eight-point story HrrWL53qCWE-00749-00174524-00174736 over the course of a project I hope to HrrWL53qCWE-00750-00174737-00174868 be able to refine that but at the HrrWL53qCWE-00751-00174869-00175018 beginning of the project to make up for HrrWL53qCWE-00752-00175019-00175183 the fact that I don't know anything I HrrWL53qCWE-00753-00175184-00175498 will give it a range of values at the HrrWL53qCWE-00754-00175499-00175744 end of that hopefully without too much HrrWL53qCWE-00755-00175745-00176179 pain you have a range of points you just HrrWL53qCWE-00756-00176180-00176347 add up the low numbers you add up the HrrWL53qCWE-00757-00176348-00176449 high numbers and you come up with HrrWL53qCWE-00758-00176450-00176575 something that says this project has HrrWL53qCWE-00759-00176576-00177043 between 100 and 120 points of work and HrrWL53qCWE-00760-00177044-00177268 you can refine this more for high HrrWL53qCWE-00761-00177269-00177433 priority for slow priority or something HrrWL53qCWE-00762-00177434-00177565 like that how you do that again it's HrrWL53qCWE-00763-00177566-00177700 going to depend on your context a little HrrWL53qCWE-00764-00177701-00177976 bit and then you kind of the really HrrWL53qCWE-00765-00177977-00178207 hand-wavy step in this part is the point HrrWL53qCWE-00766-00178208-00178510 where you have to say like the a point HrrWL53qCWE-00767-00178511-00178636 is going to be somewhere between five HrrWL53qCWE-00768-00178637-00178969 and seven hours I give it a range again HrrWL53qCWE-00769-00178970-00179140 like I just said 10 minutes ago there's HrrWL53qCWE-00770-00179141-00179290 anybody including me right now that HrrWL53qCWE-00771-00179291-00179521 tells you that points are a particular HrrWL53qCWE-00772-00179522-00179695 set of ours is oversimplifying I'm HrrWL53qCWE-00773-00179696-00179995 oversimplifying but you need to get to a HrrWL53qCWE-00774-00179996-00180337 number and the most effective way that I HrrWL53qCWE-00775-00180338-00180532 can do that i have found to do this is HrrWL53qCWE-00776-00180533-00180889 to assume that there's a range and then HrrWL53qCWE-00777-00180890-00181135 that combines with milo in my high HrrWL53qCWE-00778-00181136-00181282 number to give me a low and a high HrrWL53qCWE-00779-00181283-00181534 estimate for the number of hours so i HrrWL53qCWE-00780-00181535-00181729 have a hundred point i have a hundred HrrWL53qCWE-00781-00181730-00182095 100 220 points and five to seven hours HrrWL53qCWE-00782-00182096-00182314 per point that gives me a very broad HrrWL53qCWE-00783-00182315-00182704 range of 500 to 840 this process usually HrrWL53qCWE-00784-00182705-00182851 comes up with ranges that are going to HrrWL53qCWE-00785-00182852-00183154 be much broader than to be useful in a HrrWL53qCWE-00786-00183155-00183376 particular context so often we present HrrWL53qCWE-00787-00183377-00183817 only the middle of the range as it HrrWL53qCWE-00788-00183818-00184105 because the the extremes of the range HrrWL53qCWE-00789-00184106-00184237 are much less likely than the middle of HrrWL53qCWE-00790-00184238-00184453 the range ideally and then you can HrrWL53qCWE-00791-00184454-00184609 multiply this by a load factor to get HrrWL53qCWE-00792-00184610-00184798 talent calendar time you can multiply it HrrWL53qCWE-00793-00184799-00185215 by a dollar amount to get a budget and HrrWL53qCWE-00794-00185216-00185479 then you need to present that you HrrWL53qCWE-00795-00185480-00185683 present that to your client and when you HrrWL53qCWE-00796-00185684-00185869 present or your manager or however and HrrWL53qCWE-00797-00185870-00186142 how you present that is just as HrrWL53qCWE-00798-00186143-00186345 important as what the process is HrrWL53qCWE-00799-00186346-00186550 unfortunately like there's a lot of HrrWL53qCWE-00800-00186551-00186700 things about that that I can't tell you HrrWL53qCWE-00801-00186701-00186814 because it's going to depend on your HrrWL53qCWE-00802-00186815-00187072 context but generically it's important HrrWL53qCWE-00803-00187073-00187240 to have that be part of a process where HrrWL53qCWE-00804-00187241-00187528 you explain the limits of this at table HrrWL53qCWE-00805-00187529-00187765 X i we often have this sort of elaborate HrrWL53qCWE-00806-00187766-00187919 script a spreadsheet of graphs HrrWL53qCWE-00807-00187920-00188222 we show that show the range of HrrWL53qCWE-00808-00188223-00188369 possibilities if you only choose high HrrWL53qCWE-00809-00188370-00188587 priority stories or if you choose medium HrrWL53qCWE-00810-00188588-00188819 lower priority stories but we try to do HrrWL53qCWE-00811-00188820-00189127 a really good job of explaining how we HrrWL53qCWE-00812-00189128-00189437 got to this estimate what is in it and HrrWL53qCWE-00813-00189438-00189691 what is not in it the problem is that HrrWL53qCWE-00814-00189692-00189956 very often when you say to somebody this HrrWL53qCWE-00815-00189957-00190094 is going to cost between seventy-five HrrWL53qCWE-00816-00190095-00190240 thousand dollars one hundred twenty six HrrWL53qCWE-00817-00190241-00190414 thousand dollars is what they hear is HrrWL53qCWE-00818-00190415-00190595 this is going to cost seventy-five HrrWL53qCWE-00819-00190596-00190891 thousand dollars and that is a tendency HrrWL53qCWE-00820-00190892-00191309 that you need to counteract and one of HrrWL53qCWE-00821-00191310-00191471 the ways to counteract that is by really HrrWL53qCWE-00822-00191472-00191669 focusing on the things that need to HrrWL53qCWE-00823-00191670-00191887 happen to get to the low estimate the HrrWL53qCWE-00824-00191888-00192020 way that every the things that need to HrrWL53qCWE-00825-00192021-00192453 go right the idea that it is a minimum HrrWL53qCWE-00826-00192454-00192761 and not necessarily likely or in some HrrWL53qCWE-00827-00192762-00192923 cases you just don't present the minimum HrrWL53qCWE-00828-00192924-00193051 at all you only present the likely HrrWL53qCWE-00829-00193052-00193283 number again you know it's a situation HrrWL53qCWE-00830-00193284-00193397 that you have to you have to kind of HrrWL53qCWE-00831-00193398-00193662 read so you need to describe the results HrrWL53qCWE-00832-00193663-00193888 you need to understand that this is HrrWL53qCWE-00833-00193889-00194101 going to change over time and you need HrrWL53qCWE-00834-00194102-00194290 to be flexible to that you know one of HrrWL53qCWE-00835-00194291-00194531 the advantages of the agile method of HrrWL53qCWE-00836-00194532-00194699 your points and velocity and things like HrrWL53qCWE-00837-00194700-00194861 that is it gives you a really nice HrrWL53qCWE-00838-00194862-00195172 cadence to see whether the project is HrrWL53qCWE-00839-00195173-00195386 headed towards being completed on time HrrWL53qCWE-00840-00195387-00195604 or not and that gives you an opportunity HrrWL53qCWE-00841-00195605-00195766 to have further discussions about HrrWL53qCWE-00842-00195767-00196201 ongoing scope ongoing rework and ongoing HrrWL53qCWE-00843-00196202-00196465 priorities so that is also part of it HrrWL53qCWE-00844-00196466-00196622 the estimate is not a static thing it's HrrWL53qCWE-00845-00196623-00196796 a thing that exists over the life of the HrrWL53qCWE-00846-00196797-00197077 project because ultimately like all the HrrWL53qCWE-00847-00197078-00197222 people in the project are kind of headed HrrWL53qCWE-00848-00197223-00197488 to the airport together and it's best HrrWL53qCWE-00849-00197489-00197558 that you both have a common HrrWL53qCWE-00850-00197559-00197720 understanding of where you're going and HrrWL53qCWE-00851-00197721-00197860 how long it might take you to get there HrrWL53qCWE-00852-00197861-00198218 so that's it thanks that was a 29 HrrWL53qCWE-00853-00198219-00198659 minutes if I'm counting right so close I HrrWL53qCWE-00854-00198660-00198838 have one image credit and a couple of HrrWL53qCWE-00855-00198839-00198925 things that I want to tell you about HrrWL53qCWE-00856-00198926-00199121 again I'm you can find me on twitter at HrrWL53qCWE-00857-00199122-00199351 nor rap again feel free to putt to say HrrWL53qCWE-00858-00199352-00199591 hi or ask a question my work at table X HrrWL53qCWE-00859-00199592-00199832 I in Chicago if you finish this and you HrrWL53qCWE-00860-00199833-00200045 thought wow I really want to hear HrrWL53qCWE-00861-00200046-00200152 everything Knoll has to say about HrrWL53qCWE-00862-00200153-00200348 running software projects and agile HrrWL53qCWE-00863-00200349-00200527 projects I have a self-published book HrrWL53qCWE-00864-00200528-00200768 called trust driven development which HrrWL53qCWE-00865-00200769-00200941 you can find it t art no rapping calm HrrWL53qCWE-00866-00200942-00201226 /tr DD is normally fifteen dollars but HrrWL53qCWE-00867-00201227-00201284 for the neck HrrWL53qCWE-00868-00201285-00201466 couple days with the coupon code Ruby HrrWL53qCWE-00869-00201467-00201767 2015 very creative you can get it for HrrWL53qCWE-00870-00201768-00202010 ten dollars it will probably never be HrrWL53qCWE-00871-00202011-00202172 around at that price again so if you HrrWL53qCWE-00872-00202173-00202340 want to be one of the lucky like dozen HrrWL53qCWE-00873-00202341-00202592 people or so that it bought it have at HrrWL53qCWE-00874-00202593-00202907 it I also did a book on testing for HrrWL53qCWE-00875-00202908-00203212 pragmatic which you can find at that URL HrrWL53qCWE-00876-00203213-00203588 prag come to end our test two and that's HrrWL53qCWE-00877-00203589-00203726 all I've got thank you for your time and HrrWL53qCWE-00878-00203727-00203876 attention I hope you're really having a HrrWL53qCWE-00879-00203877-00204002 great time in the conference and enjoy HrrWL53qCWE-00880-00204003-00204341 the next couple days I have time for a HrrWL53qCWE-00881-00204342-00204485 question I guess but thank you for your HrrWL53qCWE-00882-00204486-00205119 time HrrWL53qCWE-00883-00205121-00205594 a couple questions well okay so the HrrWL53qCWE-00884-00205594-00205791 question is like it doesn't agile imply HrrWL53qCWE-00885-00205792-00205959 that you don't have a master plan at the HrrWL53qCWE-00886-00205960-00206160 beginning um I think that that is HrrWL53qCWE-00887-00206161-00206350 sometimes say we sort of get there's HrrWL53qCWE-00888-00206351-00206698 sort of a distinction between like the HrrWL53qCWE-00889-00206698-00206929 ideal agile project and the way things HrrWL53qCWE-00890-00206930-00207261 sort of exists in the world and what and HrrWL53qCWE-00891-00207262-00207411 how you can kind of move between them I HrrWL53qCWE-00892-00207412-00207598 find it very very difficult to work with HrrWL53qCWE-00893-00207598-00207796 clients on projects where there is no HrrWL53qCWE-00894-00207796-00207996 master story plan to start off with even HrrWL53qCWE-00895-00207998-00208204 if it's just like we would like this to HrrWL53qCWE-00896-00208205-00208362 be the first release like these are the HrrWL53qCWE-00897-00208363-00208482 things that need to be in the first HrrWL53qCWE-00898-00208483-00208634 release and it's not the entire project HrrWL53qCWE-00899-00208635-00208921 I think it's beneficial to set an HrrWL53qCWE-00900-00208921-00209071 initial end point and say this is what HrrWL53qCWE-00901-00209071-00209221 sin and this is what's out I think HrrWL53qCWE-00902-00209221-00209479 otherwise it's just really hard to HrrWL53qCWE-00903-00209480-00209637 understand whether the project's going HrrWL53qCWE-00904-00209638-00210132 well or whether it's going Brad badly I HrrWL53qCWE-00905-00210133-00210280 don't know that the manifesto really HrrWL53qCWE-00906-00210281-00210469 taught the manifesto itself really talks HrrWL53qCWE-00907-00210469-00210732 too deeply about at that level of detail HrrWL53qCWE-00908-00210733-00211003 it may or may not be a deviation from a HrrWL53qCWE-00909-00211004-00211150 lot of these people thinks it probably HrrWL53qCWE-00910-00211151-00211366 is I'm I may be deviant in this respect HrrWL53qCWE-00911-00211367-00211710 can I say question back there the right HrrWL53qCWE-00912-00211711-00211882 the question is do I found it useful to HrrWL53qCWE-00913-00211883-00212038 put points on things that are not HrrWL53qCWE-00914-00212039-00212242 features that are like bugs or chores or HrrWL53qCWE-00915-00212242-00212566 things like that my answer is no HrrWL53qCWE-00916-00212567-00212890 although I see the argument for yes the HrrWL53qCWE-00917-00212891-00213123 argument for know is that it's very very HrrWL53qCWE-00918-00213125-00213439 hard to estimate bugs and chores are not HrrWL53qCWE-00919-00213440-00213631 in an agile sense user-facing stories HrrWL53qCWE-00920-00213632-00214021 the math works out as long as that HrrWL53qCWE-00921-00214021-00214198 continues they can't in a consistent HrrWL53qCWE-00922-00214198-00214564 percentage of the work like if ever if HrrWL53qCWE-00923-00214565-00214779 everybody's doing twenty five percent of HrrWL53qCWE-00924-00214780-00215082 their time on bugs and chores every week HrrWL53qCWE-00925-00215083-00215275 then you still have that consistent HrrWL53qCWE-00926-00215276-00215619 cadence and the point still hole where HrrWL53qCWE-00927-00215621-00215859 it becomes a that's in practice that HrrWL53qCWE-00928-00215860-00216007 becomes a problem because ultimately HrrWL53qCWE-00929-00216008-00216157 ideally like at the beginning of the HrrWL53qCWE-00930-00216158-00216294 project you're doing more chores at the HrrWL53qCWE-00931-00216296-00216388 end of the project you're doing more HrrWL53qCWE-00932-00216389-00216676 bugs it doesn't quite work so that does HrrWL53qCWE-00933-00216677-00216846 tend to be it can get in the way the HrrWL53qCWE-00934-00216848-00217137 estimates a little bit later on HrrWL53qCWE-00935-00217138-00217354 ultimately the point is supposed to be a HrrWL53qCWE-00936-00217355-00217509 measure of complexity the story is HrrWL53qCWE-00937-00217510-00217608 supposed to be something that provides HrrWL53qCWE-00938-00217609-00218026 user value a bug that actually does HrrWL53qCWE-00939-00218027-00218191 provide user value can come in as a HrrWL53qCWE-00940-00218192-00218333 feature I don't know if that's HrrWL53qCWE-00941-00218334-00218467 actually kind of an answer but I don't HrrWL53qCWE-00942-00218469-00218660 in general find it valuable to estimate HrrWL53qCWE-00943-00218661-00218923 those eight and add points to them all HrrWL53qCWE-00944-00218925-00219128 right so what the question essentially HrrWL53qCWE-00945-00219129-00219236 is that I'm making an implicit HrrWL53qCWE-00946-00219237-00219373 assumption that there's a very direct HrrWL53qCWE-00947-00219375-00219550 relationship between complexity and time HrrWL53qCWE-00948-00219551-00220105 and that may not be true um my HrrWL53qCWE-00949-00220106-00220457 inclination and this is I think true the HrrWL53qCWE-00950-00220458-00220637 larger the project is the true this is HrrWL53qCWE-00951-00220638-00220798 my inclination is to not try and HrrWL53qCWE-00952-00220800-00221012 outsmart the process like if I think it HrrWL53qCWE-00953-00221013-00221252 but but that gets tricky like maybe what HrrWL53qCWE-00954-00221253-00221411 that means is this the one point story HrrWL53qCWE-00955-00221412-00221612 that takes a lot of time is actually if HrrWL53qCWE-00956-00221613-00221756 it has a lot of pieces that can be HrrWL53qCWE-00957-00221757-00221981 verified separately that may be the HrrWL53qCWE-00958-00221982-00222113 thing to do is to break that into HrrWL53qCWE-00959-00222114-00222292 several one point stories that can be HrrWL53qCWE-00960-00222294-00222437 independently verified independently HrrWL53qCWE-00961-00222438-00222677 deployed maybe that can't be done I HrrWL53qCWE-00962-00222678-00222929 think that that they're like I was on a HrrWL53qCWE-00963-00222930-00223130 project you know not all that long ago HrrWL53qCWE-00964-00223131-00223382 where we had a data migration story that HrrWL53qCWE-00965-00223383-00223526 was one point because we kind of HrrWL53qCWE-00966-00223527-00223696 understood what the migration was we HrrWL53qCWE-00967-00223698-00223838 didn't immediately realize that we were HrrWL53qCWE-00968-00223839-00224042 migrating like 35 tables and it took HrrWL53qCWE-00969-00224042-00224369 like three weeks that does tend to maybe HrrWL53qCWE-00970-00224369-00224615 what that means um but in that case I HrrWL53qCWE-00971-00224616-00224729 think you can say that we legitimately HrrWL53qCWE-00972-00224730-00224912 underestimated the complexity of it and HrrWL53qCWE-00973-00224913-00225182 should have had multiple single point HrrWL53qCWE-00974-00225183-00225380 stories I think that there are always HrrWL53qCWE-00975-00225381-00225523 going to be outliers and I think that HrrWL53qCWE-00976-00225525-00225944 you that that my experience is that HrrWL53qCWE-00977-00225944-00226154 trying to outsmart the process doesn't HrrWL53qCWE-00978-00226155-00226427 work a whole lot and that overall you're HrrWL53qCWE-00979-00226428-00226655 just saying like for the sometimes HrrWL53qCWE-00980-00226656-00226775 they'll be at one point story that winds HrrWL53qCWE-00981-00226776-00226907 up taking several days and sometimes HrrWL53qCWE-00982-00226908-00227033 we'll have a one-point story that takes HrrWL53qCWE-00983-00227034-00227471 five minutes and that they're just like HrrWL53qCWE-00984-00227471-00227684 it's just a problem it's just a fifty HrrWL53qCWE-00985-00227685-00227831 percent chance of rain like it's a HrrWL53qCWE-00986-00227832-00228169 probabilistic thing it's not a super HrrWL53qCWE-00987-00228171-00228338 satisfying answer it's like the least HrrWL53qCWE-00988-00228339-00228605 bad answer I have to that question sure HrrWL53qCWE-00989-00228606-00228827 so the question is do I consider like HrrWL53qCWE-00990-00228828-00229013 making the user stories flexible in HrrWL53qCWE-00991-00229014-00229171 terms of the complexity yes I mean HrrWL53qCWE-00992-00229173-00229421 sometimes you say like one of the HrrWL53qCWE-00993-00229421-00229610 metaphors is like the bicycle car the HrrWL53qCWE-00994-00229611-00229736 bicycle version of this the car version HrrWL53qCWE-00995-00229737-00229961 of this is a truck version of this or HrrWL53qCWE-00996-00229962-00230234 the like the the penny nickel quarter HrrWL53qCWE-00997-00230235-00230462 version of it yeah some you do need to HrrWL53qCWE-00998-00230463-00230771 go you do need to go to that ideally you HrrWL53qCWE-00999-00230771-00230903 know some depending on how you do it HrrWL53qCWE-01000-00230904-00231002 sometimes you go to do that the HrrWL53qCWE-01001-00231003-00231134 beginning of a project sometimes you do HrrWL53qCWE-01002-00231135-00231329 it at the beginning of an iteration the HrrWL53qCWE-01003-00231330-00231533 earlier you can do it the better you can HrrWL53qCWE-01004-00231534-00231567 fit in HrrWL53qCWE-01005-00231567-00231707 the estimate at the beginning the later HrrWL53qCWE-01006-00231708-00231857 you do it the more you can respond to HrrWL53qCWE-01007-00231858-00232160 this the practice on the ground when you HrrWL53qCWE-01008-00232161-00232334 get there but yeah that's that's HrrWL53qCWE-01009-00232335-00232481 something you change like yes there's a HrrWL53qCWE-01010-00232482-00232673 version of this that's going to solve HrrWL53qCWE-01011-00232675-00232835 eighty percent of your problems a twenty HrrWL53qCWE-01012-00232836-00232965 percent of the time is that good enough HrrWL53qCWE-01013-00232966-00233159 like that's that's always a constant HrrWL53qCWE-01014-00233160-00233313 negotiation so yeah that is something HrrWL53qCWE-01015-00233314-00233616 you do so the question is do you take HrrWL53qCWE-01016-00233617-00233775 into account the consideration of HrrWL53qCWE-01017-00233776-00233919 choosing the framework when you make the HrrWL53qCWE-01018-00233919-00234153 estimates strictly speaking I would say HrrWL53qCWE-01019-00234154-00234335 like strictly speaking in the don't HrrWL53qCWE-01020-00234336-00234683 outsmart the dumb process kind of way no HrrWL53qCWE-01021-00234684-00234927 because what I whether the way that HrrWL53qCWE-01022-00234928-00235055 would play out in the process is the HrrWL53qCWE-01023-00235056-00235263 complexity of the stories is the HrrWL53qCWE-01024-00235264-00235503 complexity of the stories and what the HrrWL53qCWE-01025-00235504-00235698 framework will do will impact the HrrWL53qCWE-01026-00235698-00236037 velocity so I would you know if the HrrWL53qCWE-01027-00236038-00236178 framework if we're all struggling with HrrWL53qCWE-01028-00236179-00236330 the framework then our velocity is going HrrWL53qCWE-01029-00236331-00236456 to be lower but the stories are the HrrWL53qCWE-01030-00236457-00236705 stories in an ideal world where you have HrrWL53qCWE-01031-00236706-00236898 a very long project you have time to see HrrWL53qCWE-01032-00236898-00237096 that play out and you see o our velocity HrrWL53qCWE-01033-00237096-00237269 here is only seven and we thought it was HrrWL53qCWE-01034-00237271-00237492 going to be 12 it becomes a little bit HrrWL53qCWE-01035-00237492-00237608 more problematic when you have to say HrrWL53qCWE-01036-00237609-00237723 something at the beginning you have to HrrWL53qCWE-01037-00237723-00237891 kind of guess it's another level of HrrWL53qCWE-01038-00237892-00238319 unknown so you know at some point right HrrWL53qCWE-01039-00238321-00238508 at some point eventually we come down to HrrWL53qCWE-01040-00238509-00238776 the future is the future and we just try HrrWL53qCWE-01041-00238777-00239046 to we can try to manage that but HrrWL53qCWE-01042-00239046-00239412 sometimes we can't like I feel like I'm HrrWL53qCWE-01043-00239413-00239723 saying is yeah shrug yep that's problem HrrWL53qCWE-01044-00239723-00240383 got me any other questions cool I think HrrWL53qCWE-01045-00240384-00240588 we're good thanks I'll be around for the HrrWL53qCWE-01046-00240589-00240773 next couple days I talk about the stuff HrrWL53qCWE-01047-00240775-00240939 a lot so feel free to come up to me and HrrWL53qCWE-01048-00240940-00241079 ask me more questions about it or tell HrrWL53qCWE-01049-00241080-00241259 me where I'm wrong because that's great HrrWL53qCWE-01050-00241260-00241614 too thanks Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00000-00000064-00000247 all right what's your name my name is Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00001-00000248-00000534 javier and what do you have here i am Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00002-00000535-00000807 working here i invest worth of security Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00003-00000808-00001143 this is a new club canada in perimeter Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00004-00001144-00001295 okay Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00005-00001296-00002087 it's prices Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00006-00002088-00002287 whatever you want Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00007-00002288-00002615 is that is there a fee to go with is it Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00008-00002616-00002847 free to go inside yeah it's free it's Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00009-00002848-00003039 free Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00010-00003040-00003367 so so tell the people um Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00011-00003368-00003615 uh what days can they come here and Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00012-00003615-00003806 enjoy this club Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00013-00003807-00003943 it's better Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00014-00003944-00004175 better on the weekends but Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00015-00004176-00004479 every day is a good day to check it out Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00016-00004480-00004727 okay so so basically you're saying on Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00017-00004728-00004991 friday saturday and sundays it's good Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00018-00004992-00005206 it's very good to come here Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00019-00005207-00005383 on mondays too Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00020-00005384-00005470 okay Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00021-00005471-00005695 so can you give me like just a quick Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00022-00005696-00006237 tour inside Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00023-00006238-00008351 [Music] Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00024-00008352-00008503 it's Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00025-00008504-00010359 [Music] Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00026-00010360-00010754 so Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00027-00010755-00011870 [Music] Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00028-00011871-00012283 so Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00029-00012284-00015222 [Music] Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00030-00015223-00015506 what Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00031-00015507-00016222 [Music] Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00032-00016222-00016871 [Music] Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00033-00016872-00017127 there you have it man imperia is the the Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00034-00017128-00017343 new hot spot Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00035-00017344-00017567 here on monday nights but Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00036-00017568-00017767 you guys are welcome to come out here on Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00037-00017768-00017991 uh on the weekends you know man you see Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00038-00017992-00018239 how many beautiful ladies just came out Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00039-00018240-00018447 so come out and support man Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00040-00018448-00018599 my man javier Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00041-00018600-00018911 the security man Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00042-00018912-00019094 nice nice Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00043-00019095-00019286 all right man i'll catch you on the next Ht6sE-l1_Uk-00044-00019287-00019568 one all right Hu22lNrz454-00000-00000000-00001015 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00001-00001016-00001219 what's going mega fans it's your boy Hu22lNrz454-00002-00001220-00001491 megachristian2000 here aka Hu22lNrz454-00003-00001492-00001814 tomc2k and welcome back to let's play Hu22lNrz454-00004-00001816-00002039 roblox so today's roblox game that we're Hu22lNrz454-00005-00002039-00002375 gonna play is called floppy's playtime Hu22lNrz454-00006-00002376-00002583 now you guys remember the original game Hu22lNrz454-00007-00002584-00002871 that's called poppy's playtime but this Hu22lNrz454-00008-00002872-00003071 one is called floppy's playtime because Hu22lNrz454-00009-00003072-00003359 they do not want to copyright than the Hu22lNrz454-00010-00003360-00003631 original name of Hu22lNrz454-00011-00003632-00003806 you know what game were you you know Hu22lNrz454-00012-00003807-00003959 what game what i'm talking about poppy's Hu22lNrz454-00013-00003960-00004070 playtime Hu22lNrz454-00014-00004071-00004183 all right so Hu22lNrz454-00015-00004184-00004431 all we got to do is just uh i would Hu22lNrz454-00016-00004432-00004622 always i just want to do it like first Hu22lNrz454-00017-00004623-00004743 person Hu22lNrz454-00018-00004744-00005359 it's just me only Hu22lNrz454-00019-00005360-00006022 man these people want to do Hu22lNrz454-00020-00006023-00007839 i finally do this one Hu22lNrz454-00021-00007840-00008011 hey i made it Hu22lNrz454-00022-00008012-00008478 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00023-00008479-00008639 ha haha in your Hu22lNrz454-00024-00008640-00008863 i've i got nothing to say though ha ha Hu22lNrz454-00025-00008864-00009095 in your face i'm in first Hu22lNrz454-00026-00009096-00009351 all right Hu22lNrz454-00027-00009352-00009614 15 years ago tragic happens broke out Hu22lNrz454-00028-00009615-00009774 floppies Hu22lNrz454-00029-00009775-00009974 everybody disappear without a trace Hu22lNrz454-00030-00009975-00010406 leaving behind only a single clue Hu22lNrz454-00031-00010407-00010751 a flower Hu22lNrz454-00032-00010752-00010959 since then the factory was abandoned and Hu22lNrz454-00033-00010960-00011135 left right Hu22lNrz454-00034-00011136-00011238 oh Hu22lNrz454-00035-00011239-00011519 until today Hu22lNrz454-00036-00011520-00011655 find Hu22lNrz454-00037-00011656-00011959 the flower Hu22lNrz454-00038-00011960-00012399 so i gotta find a flower that's it Hu22lNrz454-00039-00012400-00012574 oh Hu22lNrz454-00040-00012575-00012855 this is exactly this is exactly the same Hu22lNrz454-00041-00012856-00013438 thing as the original game Hu22lNrz454-00042-00013440-00013580 okay then Hu22lNrz454-00043-00013581-00013719 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00044-00013719-00013919 oh you need a Hu22lNrz454-00045-00013919-00014083 code for this Hu22lNrz454-00046-00014084-00014391 one um Hu22lNrz454-00047-00014391-00014686 wait if i i'm gonna Hu22lNrz454-00048-00014687-00014822 i'm gonna load the volume down if you Hu22lNrz454-00049-00014823-00015135 guys can hear it or maybe Hu22lNrz454-00050-00015136-00015327 maybe not i'm not sure Hu22lNrz454-00051-00015328-00015519 doesn't matter okay you know let's just Hu22lNrz454-00052-00015519-00015638 go in here Hu22lNrz454-00053-00015640-00015724 actually this is Hu22lNrz454-00054-00015725-00015871 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00055-00015872-00016103 what is that Hu22lNrz454-00056-00016104-00016383 i want to see what's inside first Hu22lNrz454-00057-00016384-00016567 was that Hu22lNrz454-00058-00016568-00017063 gift shop key Hu22lNrz454-00059-00017064-00017327 there's something in here nope Hu22lNrz454-00060-00017328-00017479 okay Hu22lNrz454-00061-00017480-00017671 all you got to do is find a code and Hu22lNrz454-00062-00017672-00017894 find a blue hand Hu22lNrz454-00063-00017895-00018207 for the blue scanner Hu22lNrz454-00064-00018208-00018558 do you play this no Hu22lNrz454-00065-00018559-00018758 no you can okay Hu22lNrz454-00066-00018759-00018847 that's Hu22lNrz454-00067-00018848-00019014 a waiting room Hu22lNrz454-00068-00019015-00019294 this is a gift shop Hu22lNrz454-00069-00019295-00019543 oh this is a gift shop Hu22lNrz454-00070-00019544-00019847 okay Hu22lNrz454-00071-00019848-00020030 i want to see if there's like a vhs Hu22lNrz454-00072-00020031-00020230 around here Hu22lNrz454-00073-00020231-00020622 there's literally no vhs Hu22lNrz454-00074-00020623-00020855 wait where's oh there's train Hu22lNrz454-00075-00020856-00021055 yeah i do remember markiplier's video Hu22lNrz454-00076-00021056-00021199 because there was supposed to be a color Hu22lNrz454-00077-00021200-00021430 pad color code right there Hu22lNrz454-00078-00021431-00021655 but now they up they made their own Hu22lNrz454-00079-00021656-00021822 because they do not just like i said Hu22lNrz454-00080-00021823-00021958 they do not want to copyright the Hu22lNrz454-00081-00021959-00022071 original one Hu22lNrz454-00082-00022072-00022383 they made a keep a Hu22lNrz454-00083-00022384-00022671 number codes right there Hu22lNrz454-00084-00022672-00022919 what is that right there Hu22lNrz454-00085-00022920-00023086 oh it's a crowbar Hu22lNrz454-00086-00023087-00023263 i'm like i was thinking to myself like Hu22lNrz454-00087-00023264-00023439 why is it shining right there is that a Hu22lNrz454-00088-00023440-00023758 little flashlight or something Hu22lNrz454-00089-00023759-00024103 is it okay if i get a flashlight Hu22lNrz454-00090-00024104-00024303 no you can't Hu22lNrz454-00091-00024304-00024622 no it costs 80 robux Hu22lNrz454-00092-00024623-00024758 anyway it doesn't matter i can Hu22lNrz454-00093-00024759-00024983 definitely see Hu22lNrz454-00094-00024984-00025335 all right Hu22lNrz454-00095-00025336-00025486 okay i'm gonna go Hu22lNrz454-00096-00025487-00025822 oh oh oh Hu22lNrz454-00097-00025823-00026223 uh Hu22lNrz454-00098-00026224-00026399 well i took well i finally got the Hu22lNrz454-00099-00026400-00026511 shortcut Hu22lNrz454-00100-00026512-00026639 what's this Hu22lNrz454-00101-00026639-00026895 what is this oh Hu22lNrz454-00102-00026895-00027127 no wonder it's blocked Hu22lNrz454-00103-00027127-00027367 was oh i'm in a waiting room Hu22lNrz454-00104-00027368-00027558 i'm gonna see what it says here oh i Hu22lNrz454-00105-00027560-00027783 found a code phone i'll see you with it Hu22lNrz454-00106-00027783-00028183 to carl aka the sandwich Hu22lNrz454-00107-00028183-00028374 if you steal my sandwich from the fridge Hu22lNrz454-00108-00028375-00028655 one more time i will skip the trip to Hu22lNrz454-00109-00028656-00028783 her Hu22lNrz454-00110-00028783-00029079 and take matters into my own hands Hu22lNrz454-00111-00029080-00029302 he ate the leftover he ate my leftovers Hu22lNrz454-00112-00029304-00029383 too Hu22lNrz454-00113-00029383-00029574 is that what you ate taco Hu22lNrz454-00114-00029575-00029727 is that who you Hu22lNrz454-00115-00029727-00029958 wait is that who you ate my tacos i Hu22lNrz454-00116-00029960-00030174 haven't eaten since weeks because of Hu22lNrz454-00117-00030175-00030287 carl Hu22lNrz454-00118-00030288-00030543 i am not sorry and i will do it again Hu22lNrz454-00119-00030544-00030927 carl Hu22lNrz454-00120-00030927-00031095 anyway Hu22lNrz454-00121-00031095-00031246 some people don't like sharing their Hu22lNrz454-00122-00031247-00031431 food when they're working at floppy's Hu22lNrz454-00123-00031432-00031590 playtime Hu22lNrz454-00124-00031591-00031718 floppy's Hu22lNrz454-00125-00031719-00031927 plate house Hu22lNrz454-00126-00031927-00032023 oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait i Hu22lNrz454-00127-00032024-00032367 forgot i didn't remember the code Hu22lNrz454-00128-00032368-00032702 i gotta go back oh i can run Hu22lNrz454-00129-00032703-00032862 okay there we go so Hu22lNrz454-00130-00032863-00033127 nine seven three six nine seven three Hu22lNrz454-00131-00033128-00033318 six nine seven three six nine seven Hu22lNrz454-00132-00033319-00033479 three six nine seven three six nine Hu22lNrz454-00133-00033480-00033751 seven three six nine seven two six Hu22lNrz454-00134-00033752-00033887 nine Hu22lNrz454-00135-00033888-00034055 seven Hu22lNrz454-00136-00034056-00034207 three Hu22lNrz454-00137-00034208-00034287 six Hu22lNrz454-00138-00034288-00034583 oh i got it Hu22lNrz454-00139-00034584-00034871 that was oh oh i found a blue arm Hu22lNrz454-00140-00034872-00035087 extend the blue arm by pressing a blue Hu22lNrz454-00141-00035088-00035327 button press it again will cause the arm Hu22lNrz454-00142-00035328-00035511 to retract Hu22lNrz454-00143-00035512-00035743 oh so it can come back to you Hu22lNrz454-00144-00035744-00035918 okay Hu22lNrz454-00145-00035919-00036190 oh wow this is exactly the same thing as Hu22lNrz454-00146-00036191-00036567 the original one Hu22lNrz454-00147-00036568-00036862 all right Hu22lNrz454-00148-00036863-00037167 oh my god Hu22lNrz454-00149-00037168-00037399 you Hu22lNrz454-00150-00037400-00037607 are Hu22lNrz454-00151-00037608-00037799 terrifying Hu22lNrz454-00152-00037800-00038007 anyway Hu22lNrz454-00153-00038008-00038095 nice Hu22lNrz454-00154-00038096-00038262 stand-up thing Hu22lNrz454-00155-00038263-00038446 mr Hu22lNrz454-00156-00038447-00038702 uh go hoggy Hu22lNrz454-00157-00038703-00038927 oh his name is huggy oh Hu22lNrz454-00158-00038928-00039118 huggy wuggy that's his name Hu22lNrz454-00159-00039119-00039271 hey i forgot what's his name and his Hu22lNrz454-00160-00039272-00039479 name is huggy woogie Hu22lNrz454-00161-00039480-00039567 okay Hu22lNrz454-00162-00039568-00040118 i gotta know all right let me open that Hu22lNrz454-00163-00040119-00040287 oh that's just great Hu22lNrz454-00164-00040288-00040527 no power Hu22lNrz454-00165-00040528-00040671 testing Hu22lNrz454-00166-00040672-00040846 let's go find a key Hu22lNrz454-00167-00040847-00041023 it's got to be around here Hu22lNrz454-00168-00041024-00041167 hello Hu22lNrz454-00169-00041168-00041462 where's the key Hu22lNrz454-00170-00041463-00041655 hmm Hu22lNrz454-00171-00041656-00041797 is it in the entrance Hu22lNrz454-00172-00041798-00041927 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00173-00041928-00042007 no Hu22lNrz454-00174-00042008-00042399 or is it back here Hu22lNrz454-00175-00042400-00042511 nope Hu22lNrz454-00176-00042512-00042630 could be in the waiting room i'm just Hu22lNrz454-00177-00042631-00042855 gonna run i forgot to run Hu22lNrz454-00178-00042856-00043071 um Hu22lNrz454-00179-00043072-00043358 nope Hu22lNrz454-00180-00043359-00043551 what about in the gift shop Hu22lNrz454-00181-00043552-00043711 no no Hu22lNrz454-00182-00043712-00043790 no Hu22lNrz454-00183-00043791-00043918 under here no Hu22lNrz454-00184-00043919-00044095 no no Hu22lNrz454-00185-00044096-00044199 uh no Hu22lNrz454-00186-00044200-00044374 no Hu22lNrz454-00187-00044375-00044551 or maybe i gotta Hu22lNrz454-00188-00044552-00045023 go away from here Hu22lNrz454-00189-00045024-00045151 i already checked there i don't think Hu22lNrz454-00190-00045152-00045298 it's going to be nothing in there Hu22lNrz454-00191-00045299-00045543 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00192-00045544-00045846 nothing's in here Hu22lNrz454-00193-00045847-00046239 or maybe it could be next to huggy wuggy Hu22lNrz454-00194-00046240-00046471 all right oh girl Hu22lNrz454-00195-00046472-00046855 it's even way creepier in the dark Hu22lNrz454-00196-00046856-00047102 oh i found the key Hu22lNrz454-00197-00047103-00047446 this on top is on the huggy wuggy's hand Hu22lNrz454-00198-00047447-00047599 got it Hu22lNrz454-00199-00047600-00047800 oh it's a power room key Hu22lNrz454-00200-00047801-00047943 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00201-00047944-00048215 all right got that Hu22lNrz454-00202-00048216-00048671 it was just Hu22lNrz454-00203-00048672-00049071 what is that like oh Hu22lNrz454-00204-00049072-00049318 so basically i gotta find a way to turn Hu22lNrz454-00205-00049319-00049574 it on Hu22lNrz454-00206-00049575-00049999 match the colors Hu22lNrz454-00207-00050000-00050079 wait Hu22lNrz454-00208-00050080-00050262 magic Hu22lNrz454-00209-00050263-00050360 match the colors Hu22lNrz454-00210-00050361-00050511 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00211-00050512-00051039 oh wait wait wait i think i know Hu22lNrz454-00212-00051040-00051407 and you go right here Hu22lNrz454-00213-00051408-00051607 okay Hu22lNrz454-00214-00051608-00051823 match the colors it said Hu22lNrz454-00215-00051824-00052270 okay so red there's another one Hu22lNrz454-00216-00052271-00052479 got that Hu22lNrz454-00217-00052479-00052735 and this one Hu22lNrz454-00218-00052736-00052911 there we go Hu22lNrz454-00219-00052912-00053238 oh this is a yellow pant yellow panels Hu22lNrz454-00220-00053239-00053542 let me uh do that Hu22lNrz454-00221-00053544-00053735 thank you Hu22lNrz454-00222-00053736-00054007 and there we go Hu22lNrz454-00223-00054008-00054263 and last one Hu22lNrz454-00224-00054264-00054430 green yeah Hu22lNrz454-00225-00054432-00054686 there's a green panel right there Hu22lNrz454-00226-00054687-00054847 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00227-00054848-00055126 okay get that Hu22lNrz454-00228-00055127-00055303 let me Hu22lNrz454-00229-00055304-00055607 there we go Hu22lNrz454-00230-00055608-00055807 oh so Hu22lNrz454-00231-00055808-00056030 oh this is only from it's only me Hu22lNrz454-00232-00056032-00056159 because i'm in Hu22lNrz454-00233-00056160-00056335 because i'm all by myself in the server Hu22lNrz454-00234-00056336-00056447 so Hu22lNrz454-00235-00056448-00056711 but three players you have to like scan Hu22lNrz454-00236-00056712-00056911 all of them Hu22lNrz454-00237-00056912-00058150 all right now let's go Hu22lNrz454-00238-00058151-00058687 looks like we got a jailbreaker um Hu22lNrz454-00239-00058688-00058847 he uh Hu22lNrz454-00240-00058848-00059038 he's alive now Hu22lNrz454-00241-00059039-00059263 i don't even know where he is now Hu22lNrz454-00242-00059264-00059535 he is like eight foot tall Hu22lNrz454-00243-00059536-00059999 hug mr huggy wuggy Hu22lNrz454-00244-00060000-00060191 okay Hu22lNrz454-00245-00060191-00060342 okay Hu22lNrz454-00246-00060344-00060519 i don't even know where he is but i'm Hu22lNrz454-00247-00060520-00060879 getting out of here Hu22lNrz454-00248-00060879-00061071 okay Hu22lNrz454-00249-00061072-00061366 oh god Hu22lNrz454-00250-00061367-00061647 can i open that door no Hu22lNrz454-00251-00061648-00061935 you want me to go in here oh no Hu22lNrz454-00252-00061936-00062119 he's not in here that's a good thing Hu22lNrz454-00253-00062120-00062326 he's Hu22lNrz454-00254-00062327-00062575 toggle spin by press oh i already know i Hu22lNrz454-00255-00062576-00062830 already know Hu22lNrz454-00256-00062832-00063083 oh my god with the steam Hu22lNrz454-00257-00063084-00063898 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00258-00063899-00064230 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00259-00064232-00064782 okay Hu22lNrz454-00260-00064783-00065366 oh what do we do here Hu22lNrz454-00261-00065367-00065767 oh you need like some batteries for this Hu22lNrz454-00262-00065768-00065919 oh i could definitely see one right Hu22lNrz454-00263-00065920-00066111 there Hu22lNrz454-00264-00066112-00066294 i can see another one that's like close Hu22lNrz454-00265-00066295-00066550 by i'm gonna pick that up Hu22lNrz454-00266-00066551-00066799 it's an orange battery Hu22lNrz454-00267-00066800-00067150 oh there's another battery right there Hu22lNrz454-00268-00067151-00067494 you know i'm just gonna run Hu22lNrz454-00269-00067495-00067679 it's all good Hu22lNrz454-00270-00067680-00067919 catch time you know Hu22lNrz454-00271-00067920-00067999 nope Hu22lNrz454-00272-00068000-00068111 nope Hu22lNrz454-00273-00068112-00068238 nope Hu22lNrz454-00274-00068239-00068438 nope oh there we go Hu22lNrz454-00275-00068439-00068606 all right Hu22lNrz454-00276-00068607-00068926 um now i gotta get the other one that's Hu22lNrz454-00277-00068927-00069206 right up there Hu22lNrz454-00278-00069207-00069511 oh no i pressed uh Hu22lNrz454-00279-00069512-00069599 nope Hu22lNrz454-00280-00069600-00069687 nope Hu22lNrz454-00281-00069688-00069847 nope Hu22lNrz454-00282-00069848-00070031 let me see if i could Hu22lNrz454-00283-00070032-00070375 get a better view to catch that battery Hu22lNrz454-00284-00070376-00070543 no Hu22lNrz454-00285-00070544-00070679 no Hu22lNrz454-00286-00070680-00070847 oh i got it Hu22lNrz454-00287-00070848-00070950 all right Hu22lNrz454-00288-00070951-00071175 now i got to go back again Hu22lNrz454-00289-00071176-00071375 to put the blue battery Hu22lNrz454-00290-00071376-00071631 in the spot that i need to put with the Hu22lNrz454-00291-00071632-00071862 orange battery Hu22lNrz454-00292-00071863-00072055 and then i Hu22lNrz454-00293-00072056-00072206 wait Hu22lNrz454-00294-00072207-00072479 so i gotta find the oh Hu22lNrz454-00295-00072480-00072711 oh yeah i forgot i got to find a red Hu22lNrz454-00296-00072712-00073038 hand i don't even know what it is Hu22lNrz454-00297-00073039-00073262 um Hu22lNrz454-00298-00073263-00073582 yeah the red hand oh there's the red hen Hu22lNrz454-00299-00073583-00073935 rose right up there now i need to Hu22lNrz454-00300-00073936-00074335 for the claw machine or this one starts Hu22lNrz454-00301-00074336-00074462 i don't even know Hu22lNrz454-00302-00074463-00074743 because basically i don't see the Hu22lNrz454-00303-00074744-00075023 the remote for the claw machine Hu22lNrz454-00304-00075024-00075271 so basically it's probably on top of the Hu22lNrz454-00305-00075272-00075462 treadmill Hu22lNrz454-00306-00075463-00075655 so basically i gotta find like Hu22lNrz454-00307-00075656-00075871 four batteries and put them together so Hu22lNrz454-00308-00075872-00076071 the power will come back on Hu22lNrz454-00309-00076072-00076247 and that trip and that hand is gonna Hu22lNrz454-00310-00076248-00076519 come okay okay Hu22lNrz454-00311-00076520-00077015 okay i gotta know i get it now Hu22lNrz454-00312-00077016-00077262 this is a really scarier being by Hu22lNrz454-00313-00077263-00077487 yourself Hu22lNrz454-00314-00077488-00077759 in the factory Hu22lNrz454-00315-00077760-00077999 with nobody around Hu22lNrz454-00316-00078000-00078150 just you Hu22lNrz454-00317-00078151-00078350 all by yourself Hu22lNrz454-00318-00078351-00078503 being haunted Hu22lNrz454-00319-00078504-00078919 by eight foot tall blue stuffed person Hu22lNrz454-00320-00078920-00079280 there we go oh it's moving Hu22lNrz454-00321-00079281-00079999 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00322-00080000-00080255 it's gonna oh there it is Hu22lNrz454-00323-00080256-00080575 right there Hu22lNrz454-00324-00080576-00080950 oh cool let's put it on the spotlight Hu22lNrz454-00325-00080951-00081182 uh Hu22lNrz454-00326-00081183-00081367 okay got it Hu22lNrz454-00327-00081368-00081687 finally i got red and blue arms Hu22lNrz454-00328-00081688-00081959 yeah right now it's extended there we go Hu22lNrz454-00329-00081960-00082159 and the other one Hu22lNrz454-00330-00082160-00082335 there Hu22lNrz454-00331-00082336-00082503 now i'm gonna wait for it to charge Hu22lNrz454-00332-00082504-00082706 fully Hu22lNrz454-00333-00082707-00082959 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00334-00082960-00083318 man that's so easy Hu22lNrz454-00335-00083319-00083513 oh slide Hu22lNrz454-00336-00083514-00083679 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00337-00083680-00083918 all right what do we do oh Hu22lNrz454-00338-00083919-00084062 now you're gonna like oh there's a blue Hu22lNrz454-00339-00084063-00084271 panel right there Hu22lNrz454-00340-00084272-00084487 there's that i don't know how you get up Hu22lNrz454-00341-00084488-00084775 because you can't get up on that oh you Hu22lNrz454-00342-00084776-00084975 could Hu22lNrz454-00343-00084976-00085223 i got that Hu22lNrz454-00344-00085224-00085511 oh maybe i should definitely do on this Hu22lNrz454-00345-00085512-00085838 r so i can make it more easier Hu22lNrz454-00346-00085839-00086087 and Hu22lNrz454-00347-00086088-00086326 okay i get it Hu22lNrz454-00348-00086327-00086431 and Hu22lNrz454-00349-00086432-00086767 oh you need to do the other one as well Hu22lNrz454-00350-00086768-00087062 no i oh yeah you have to do that by Hu22lNrz454-00351-00087063-00087318 opening this door Hu22lNrz454-00352-00087319-00087487 don't worry i need to find a way to get Hu22lNrz454-00353-00087488-00087782 on top of there Hu22lNrz454-00354-00087783-00087982 do that Hu22lNrz454-00355-00087983-00088094 no Hu22lNrz454-00356-00088095-00088399 okay Hu22lNrz454-00357-00088400-00088591 gotta go back again because it touched Hu22lNrz454-00358-00088592-00088743 the floor Hu22lNrz454-00359-00088744-00088943 okay Hu22lNrz454-00360-00088944-00089191 okay there we go Hu22lNrz454-00361-00089192-00089489 and Hu22lNrz454-00362-00089490-00089823 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00363-00089824-00090135 what why is there a boss music Hu22lNrz454-00364-00090136-00090567 why is there a boss music Hu22lNrz454-00365-00090568-00090703 okay i know i'm getting out of here i'm Hu22lNrz454-00366-00090704-00091494 getting out of here Hu22lNrz454-00367-00091495-00091671 i swear to god i thought i heard Hu22lNrz454-00368-00091672-00091775 something Hu22lNrz454-00369-00091776-00091926 i thought i heard something chasing me Hu22lNrz454-00370-00091927-00092038 literally Hu22lNrz454-00371-00092039-00092287 okay uh let's just Hu22lNrz454-00372-00092288-00092726 make a friend Hu22lNrz454-00373-00092727-00092991 oh there's a stairs up there Hu22lNrz454-00374-00092992-00093174 probably something important up there Hu22lNrz454-00375-00093175-00093703 that's going on Hu22lNrz454-00376-00093704-00093882 okay Hu22lNrz454-00377-00093883-00094191 oh don't worry i got the red hand and a Hu22lNrz454-00378-00094192-00094350 blue hand Hu22lNrz454-00379-00094351-00094903 so i could just stretch it Hu22lNrz454-00380-00094904-00095079 all right Hu22lNrz454-00381-00095080-00095238 oh yes Hu22lNrz454-00382-00095239-00095511 you need to do that Hu22lNrz454-00383-00095512-00095726 all right i'm gonna do it organizing use Hu22lNrz454-00384-00095727-00096055 the red hand no don't do that Hu22lNrz454-00385-00096056-00096287 and Hu22lNrz454-00386-00096288-00096447 there we go Hu22lNrz454-00387-00096448-00096903 i am i am a smart Hu22lNrz454-00388-00096904-00097182 i almost walked to my desk Hu22lNrz454-00389-00097183-00097374 well lucky me you guys Hu22lNrz454-00390-00097375-00097543 all right Hu22lNrz454-00391-00097544-00097718 all right got that Hu22lNrz454-00392-00097719-00098062 and let me uh get the other one Hu22lNrz454-00393-00098063-00098303 oh easier one more Hu22lNrz454-00394-00098304-00098638 i need one more Hu22lNrz454-00395-00098639-00098918 there's one right here Hu22lNrz454-00396-00098919-00099047 uh oh Hu22lNrz454-00397-00099048-00099271 wait i get it i get it again Hu22lNrz454-00398-00099272-00099559 let me bring that there Hu22lNrz454-00399-00099560-00099718 and Hu22lNrz454-00400-00099719-00100087 do that Hu22lNrz454-00401-00100088-00100431 all right i got it Hu22lNrz454-00402-00100432-00100631 okay Hu22lNrz454-00403-00100632-00101023 i am a smart Hu22lNrz454-00404-00101024-00101247 let me bring that there Hu22lNrz454-00405-00101248-00101423 now i gotta go downstairs to make a Hu22lNrz454-00406-00101424-00101582 friend Hu22lNrz454-00407-00101583-00102399 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00408-00102400-00102710 right let's make a friend what's this oh Hu22lNrz454-00409-00102711-00102871 okay Hu22lNrz454-00410-00102872-00103030 now we're trying to make a friend now i Hu22lNrz454-00411-00103031-00103494 gotta pull the other one Hu22lNrz454-00412-00103495-00103847 okay i get it now Hu22lNrz454-00413-00103848-00104223 now we wait Hu22lNrz454-00414-00104224-00104390 now i have a theory that i saw Hu22lNrz454-00415-00104391-00104542 markiplier's video that something's Hu22lNrz454-00416-00104543-00104975 gonna happen right there Hu22lNrz454-00417-00104976-00105166 i know huggy woogie's gonna come out Hu22lNrz454-00418-00105167-00105295 that door Hu22lNrz454-00419-00105296-00105527 whenever i'm finishing making something Hu22lNrz454-00420-00105528-00106631 yeah Hu22lNrz454-00421-00106632-00106847 oh Hu22lNrz454-00422-00106848-00107510 there's those boxes right here Hu22lNrz454-00423-00107511-00107686 and it's really taking forever i gotta Hu22lNrz454-00424-00107688-00107863 tell you Hu22lNrz454-00425-00107864-00108902 and it goes to the third one Hu22lNrz454-00426-00108903-00109063 oh there's my friend Hu22lNrz454-00427-00109064-00109215 i don't know who the hell are you oh Hu22lNrz454-00428-00109216-00109358 it's a bunny Hu22lNrz454-00429-00109359-00109543 it's the easter bunny Hu22lNrz454-00430-00109544-00109775 on thanksgiving Hu22lNrz454-00431-00109776-00110015 i don't know why he's the feaster bunny Hu22lNrz454-00432-00110016-00110183 right there Hu22lNrz454-00433-00110183-00110231 sorry Hu22lNrz454-00434-00110232-00110551 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00435-00110552-00110766 all right i'm out of here Hu22lNrz454-00436-00110767-00110975 oh hey mr huggy buggy uh forget about Hu22lNrz454-00437-00110976-00112083 you i'm gonna go now Hu22lNrz454-00438-00112083-00112407 okay oh no Hu22lNrz454-00439-00112408-00112639 oh my god Hu22lNrz454-00440-00112640-00112895 oh my god oh no not that way Hu22lNrz454-00441-00112896-00113078 now that one is well though Hu22lNrz454-00442-00113079-00113215 oh no Hu22lNrz454-00443-00113216-00113351 oh no Hu22lNrz454-00444-00113352-00113471 i'm gonna die Hu22lNrz454-00445-00113472-00113751 i'm going to die i'm going to die i'm Hu22lNrz454-00446-00113752-00113863 going to die Hu22lNrz454-00447-00113864-00114047 i'm going to die i'm going to die i'm Hu22lNrz454-00448-00114048-00114199 going to die i'm going to die this is Hu22lNrz454-00449-00114200-00114439 hell this is hell right here oh god oh Hu22lNrz454-00450-00114440-00114639 god oh god oh god oh god i'm going to go Hu22lNrz454-00451-00114640-00114847 he's getting closer he's getting closer Hu22lNrz454-00452-00114848-00115807 oh no Hu22lNrz454-00453-00115808-00117663 oh Hu22lNrz454-00454-00117664-00117902 oh this is different i forgot to tell Hu22lNrz454-00455-00117903-00118134 this is a different way Hu22lNrz454-00456-00118135-00118590 where i'm gonna go now Hu22lNrz454-00457-00118591-00118766 what's this Hu22lNrz454-00458-00118767-00118999 no danger go back Hu22lNrz454-00459-00119000-00119334 danger run what's that Hu22lNrz454-00460-00119335-00119551 the end for now Hu22lNrz454-00461-00119552-00119927 like the game for chapter two Hu22lNrz454-00462-00119928-00120257 wow Hu22lNrz454-00463-00120258-00120727 [Music] Hu22lNrz454-00464-00120728-00121023 well i gotta Hu22lNrz454-00465-00121024-00121278 i gotta tell you yeah i gotta say this Hu22lNrz454-00466-00121279-00121534 that game was Hu22lNrz454-00467-00121535-00121766 really scary Hu22lNrz454-00468-00121767-00122023 being chased by little eight foot blue Hu22lNrz454-00469-00122024-00122271 stuffed animal named huggy wuggy i Hu22lNrz454-00470-00122272-00122478 thought it's floppy but no that's huggy Hu22lNrz454-00471-00122479-00122710 wuggy Hu22lNrz454-00472-00122711-00123023 i i gotta i got a gay i gotta Hu22lNrz454-00473-00123024-00123231 what am i even saying this is Hu22lNrz454-00474-00123232-00123510 so hard to pronounce this i gotta tell Hu22lNrz454-00475-00123511-00123631 you Hu22lNrz454-00476-00123632-00123831 i'm gonna give this 10 out of 10. i Hu22lNrz454-00477-00123832-00124047 guess this is the scariest game Hu22lNrz454-00478-00124048-00124239 and also this is gonna be the last video Hu22lNrz454-00479-00124240-00124510 because i'm gonna go out celebrate Hu22lNrz454-00480-00124511-00124751 thanksgiving so thank you guys for Hu22lNrz454-00481-00124752-00125039 seeing this video of floppy's playtime Hu22lNrz454-00482-00125040-00125263 please see please subscribe please leave Hu22lNrz454-00483-00125264-00125543 a comment down below and also also Hu22lNrz454-00484-00125544-00125743 why am i saying oscar Hu22lNrz454-00485-00125744-00125886 also Hu22lNrz454-00486-00125888-00126063 punch that like button if you like this Hu22lNrz454-00487-00126064-00126271 video if you don't like this video well Hu22lNrz454-00488-00126272-00126407 there's going to be more videos next Hu22lNrz454-00489-00126408-00126575 time Hu22lNrz454-00490-00126576-00126743 probably next time i'm not sure because Hu22lNrz454-00491-00126744-00127014 i'm going to be out for thanksgiving and Hu22lNrz454-00492-00127015-00127175 i hope you guys have a wonderful Hu22lNrz454-00493-00127176-00127334 thanksgiving and a wonderful black Hu22lNrz454-00494-00127335-00127478 friday Hu22lNrz454-00495-00127479-00127751 and i'll see you mega fans Hu22lNrz454-00496-00127752-00128047 in the next video peace Hu22lNrz454-00497-00128048-00128461 out Hu22lNrz454-00498-00128463-00129082 [Music] HuAu3TjQLUu-00000-00000035-00000507 step XML is a short term for iso 10303 HuAu3TjQLUu-00001-00000508-00000815 -28 industrial automation systems and HuAu3TjQLUu-00002-00000816-00001094 integration product data representation HuAu3TjQLUu-00003-00001095-00001385 and exchange part 28 implementation HuAu3TjQLUu-00004-00001386-00001643 methods xml representations of express HuAu3TjQLUu-00005-00001644-00002032 schema and data step XML specifies the HuAu3TjQLUu-00006-00002034-00002206 use of the extensible markup language HuAu3TjQLUu-00007-00002207-00002557 XML to represent 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HuAu3TjQLUu-00034-00009960-00010235 the corresponding express schema the HuAu3TjQLUu-00035-00010236-00010471 mapping from an XML markup declaration HuAu3TjQLUu-00036-00010472-00010778 to an express schema note given an XML HuAu3TjQLUu-00037-00010779-00010970 markup declaration set in its HuAu3TjQLUu-00038-00010971-00011201 corresponding data sets it is possible HuAu3TjQLUu-00039-00011202-00011363 to create an express schema that HuAu3TjQLUu-00040-00011364-00011574 captures the semantic intent of the data HuAu3TjQLUu-00041-00011575-00011801 however this would requires an HuAu3TjQLUu-00042-00011802-00011963 understanding of the meaning and use of HuAu3TjQLUu-00043-00011964-00012158 the data that may not be captured by the HuAu3TjQLUu-00044-00012159-00012514 XML markup declarations the mapping from HuAu3TjQLUu-00045-00012515-00012749 an XML representation of an express HuAu3TjQLUu-00046-00012750-00012932 schema back to the initial express HuAu3TjQLUu-00047-00012933-00013247 schema the 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future suffering the philosophy of karma H-1VDth_p4U-00012-00002724-00002933 is closely associated with the idea of H-1VDth_p4U-00013-00002934-00003127 rebirth in many schools of Indian H-1VDth_p4U-00014-00003128-00003344 religions particularly Hinduism Buddhism H-1VDth_p4U-00015-00003345-00003635 Jainism and Sikhism as well as Taoism in H-1VDth_p4U-00016-00003636-00003893 these schools karma in the present H-1VDth_p4U-00017-00003894-00004076 affects one's future in the current life H-1VDth_p4U-00018-00004077-00004259 as well as the nature and quality of H-1VDth_p4U-00019-00004260-00004940 future lives one samsara H-1VDth_p4U-00020-00004941-00005534 topic definition and meanings H-1VDth_p4U-00021-00005535-00005979 karma is the executed deed work action H-1VDth_p4U-00022-00005980-00006477 or act and it is also the object the H-1VDth_p4U-00023-00006478-00006870 intent Wilhelm help fast explains Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00024-00006870-00007064 Carmen by contrasting it with another H-1VDth_p4U-00025-00007065-00007334 Sanskrit word Kriya the word Kriya is H-1VDth_p4U-00026-00007336-00007535 the activity along with the steps and H-1VDth_p4U-00027-00007536-00007742 effort in action while karma is one the H-1VDth_p4U-00028-00007743-00007946 executed action is a consequence of that H-1VDth_p4U-00029-00007947-00008189 activity as well as to the intention of H-1VDth_p4U-00030-00008190-00008412 the actor behind an executed action or a H-1VDth_p4U-00031-00008413-00008588 planned action described by some H-1VDth_p4U-00032-00008589-00008810 scholars as metaphysical residue left in H-1VDth_p4U-00033-00008811-00009084 the actor a good action creates good H-1VDth_p4U-00034-00009085-00009335 karma as does good intent a bad action H-1VDth_p4U-00035-00009336-00009585 creates bad karma as does bad intent H-1VDth_p4U-00036-00009586-00009821 karma also refers to a conceptual H-1VDth_p4U-00037-00009822-00010038 principle that originated in India often H-1VDth_p4U-00038-00010039-00010235 descriptively called the principle of H-1VDth_p4U-00039-00010236-00010455 karma sometimes as the Karma theory or H-1VDth_p4U-00040-00010456-00010707 the law of karma in the context of H-1VDth_p4U-00041-00010708-00010938 theory karma is complex and difficult to H-1VDth_p4U-00042-00010939-00011232 define different schools of indologists H-1VDth_p4U-00043-00011233-00011405 derive different definitions for the H-1VDth_p4U-00044-00011406-00011642 Karma concept from ancient Indian texts H-1VDth_p4U-00045-00011643-00011832 their definition is some combination of H-1VDth_p4U-00046-00011833-00012057 one causality that may be ethical or non H-1VDth_p4U-00047-00012058-00012308 ethical to ëthis is a ssin that is good H-1VDth_p4U-00048-00012309-00012521 or bad actions have consequences and H-1VDth_p4U-00049-00012522-00012843 three rebirth other indologists include H-1VDth_p4U-00050-00012844-00013038 in the definition of karma theory that H-1VDth_p4U-00051-00013038-00013182 which explains the present circumstances H-1VDth_p4U-00052-00013183-00013436 of an individual with reference to his H-1VDth_p4U-00053-00013437-00013730 or her actions in past these actions may H-1VDth_p4U-00054-00013731-00013929 be those in a person's current life or H-1VDth_p4U-00055-00013930-00014133 in some schools of Indian traditions H-1VDth_p4U-00056-00014134-00014310 possibly actions in their past lives H-1VDth_p4U-00057-00014311-00014547 furthermore the consequences may result H-1VDth_p4U-00058-00014547-00014747 in current life or a person's future H-1VDth_p4U-00059-00014748-00015005 lives the law of karma operates H-1VDth_p4U-00060-00015006-00015249 independent of any deity or any process H-1VDth_p4U-00061-00015250-00015432 of divine judgment difficulty in H-1VDth_p4U-00062-00015433-00015666 arriving at a definition of karma arises H-1VDth_p4U-00063-00015666-00015849 because of the diversity of views among H-1VDth_p4U-00064-00015850-00016083 the schools of Hinduism some for example H-1VDth_p4U-00065-00016084-00016299 consider karma and rebirth linked and H-1VDth_p4U-00066-00016300-00016524 simultaneously essential some consider H-1VDth_p4U-00067-00016525-00016743 Karma but not rebirth essential and a H-1VDth_p4U-00068-00016744-00016929 few discuss and conclude karma and H-1VDth_p4U-00069-00016930-00017202 rebirth to be flawed fiction Buddhism H-1VDth_p4U-00070-00017203-00017352 and Jainism have their own karma H-1VDth_p4U-00071-00017353-00017636 precepts thus karma has not one but H-1VDth_p4U-00072-00017637-00017805 multiple definitions and different H-1VDth_p4U-00073-00017806-00018075 meanings it is a concept whose meaning H-1VDth_p4U-00074-00018076-00018252 importance and scope varies between H-1VDth_p4U-00075-00018253-00018492 Hinduism Buddhism Jainism and other H-1VDth_p4U-00076-00018493-00018714 traditions that originated in India and H-1VDth_p4U-00077-00018715-00018889 various schools in each of these H-1VDth_p4U-00078-00018890-00019180 Oh Flaherty claims that furthermore H-1VDth_p4U-00079-00019181-00019336 there is an ongoing debate regarding H-1VDth_p4U-00080-00019337-00019564 whether karma is a theory a model a H-1VDth_p4U-00081-00019565-00019786 paradigm a metaphor or a metaphysical H-1VDth_p4U-00082-00019787-00020061 stance karma theory as a concept across H-1VDth_p4U-00083-00020062-00020260 different Indian religious traditions H-1VDth_p4U-00084-00020261-00020491 shares certain common themes causality H-1VDth_p4U-00085-00020492-00021126 ëthis is a ssin and rebirth H-1VDth_p4U-00086-00021127-00021625 topic causality H-1VDth_p4U-00087-00021626-00021874 a common theme to theories of karma as H-1VDth_p4U-00088-00021875-00022150 its principle of causality one of the H-1VDth_p4U-00089-00022151-00022342 earliest association of karma to H-1VDth_p4U-00090-00022343-00022572 causality occurs in the BRE Hadron Yoko H-1VDth_p4U-00091-00022573-00022872 Upanishad of Hinduism for example at H-1VDth_p4U-00092-00022873-00023113 four point four point five - six it H-1VDth_p4U-00093-00023114-00023400 states the relationship of karma to H-1VDth_p4U-00094-00023401-00023605 causality as a central motif in all H-1VDth_p4U-00095-00023606-00023803 schools of Hindu Jain and Buddhist H-1VDth_p4U-00096-00023804-00024094 thought the theory of karma as causality H-1VDth_p4U-00097-00024095-00024313 holds that one executed actions of an H-1VDth_p4U-00098-00024314-00024517 individual affects the individual and H-1VDth_p4U-00099-00024518-00024721 the life he or she lives and to the H-1VDth_p4U-00100-00024722-00024930 intentions of an individual affects the H-1VDth_p4U-00101-00024931-00025158 individual in the life he or she lives H-1VDth_p4U-00102-00025159-00025434 disinterested actions or unintentional H-1VDth_p4U-00103-00025435-00025653 actions do not have the same positive or H-1VDth_p4U-00104-00025654-00025869 negative karmic effect as interested in H-1VDth_p4U-00105-00025870-00026155 intentional actions in Buddhism for H-1VDth_p4U-00106-00026156-00026362 example actions that are performed or H-1VDth_p4U-00107-00026363-00026575 arise or originate without any bad H-1VDth_p4U-00108-00026576-00026755 intent such as covetousness are H-1VDth_p4U-00109-00026756-00026989 considered non existent in karmic impact H-1VDth_p4U-00110-00026989-00027148 or neutral in influence to the H-1VDth_p4U-00111-00027149-00027325 individual another causality H-1VDth_p4U-00112-00027326-00027540 characteristic shared by karmic theories H-1VDth_p4U-00113-00027541-00027750 is that like deeds lead to like effects H-1VDth_p4U-00114-00027751-00028045 thus good karma produces good effect on H-1VDth_p4U-00115-00028045-00028258 the actor while bad karma produces bad H-1VDth_p4U-00116-00028258-00028579 effect this effect may be material moral H-1VDth_p4U-00117-00028580-00028845 or emotional that as one's karma affects H-1VDth_p4U-00118-00028847-00029104 one's happiness and unhappiness the H-1VDth_p4U-00119-00029105-00029299 effect of karma need not be immediate H-1VDth_p4U-00120-00029300-00029479 the effect of karma can be later in H-1VDth_p4U-00121-00029480-00029656 one's current life and in some schools H-1VDth_p4U-00122-00029657-00029860 it extends to future lives the H-1VDth_p4U-00123-00029861-00030043 consequence or effects of one's karma H-1VDth_p4U-00124-00030044-00030264 can be described in two forms phallus H-1VDth_p4U-00125-00030266-00030580 and samskaras a fala literally fruit or H-1VDth_p4U-00126-00030581-00030727 result is the visible or invisible H-1VDth_p4U-00127-00030727-00030976 effect that is typically immediate or H-1VDth_p4U-00128-00030977-00031221 within the current life in contrast H-1VDth_p4U-00129-00031222-00031480 samskaras are invisible effects produced H-1VDth_p4U-00130-00031481-00031665 inside the actor because of the Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00131-00031666-00031876 transforming the agent and affecting his H-1VDth_p4U-00132-00031877-00032104 or her ability to be happy or unhappy in H-1VDth_p4U-00133-00032105-00032377 this life in future ones the theory of H-1VDth_p4U-00134-00032377-00032611 karma is often presented in the context H-1VDth_p4U-00135-00032612-00032821 of samskaras karmic principle can be H-1VDth_p4U-00136-00032822-00033043 understood suggest Scarl Potter as a H-1VDth_p4U-00137-00033044-00033358 principle of psychology in habit karma H-1VDth_p4U-00138-00033359-00033615 seeds habits vasana and habits create H-1VDth_p4U-00139-00033616-00033918 the nature of man karma also seeds self H-1VDth_p4U-00140-00033919-00034156 perception and perception influences how H-1VDth_p4U-00141-00034157-00034477 one experiences life events both habits H-1VDth_p4U-00142-00034478-00034677 and self perception affect the course of H-1VDth_p4U-00143-00034678-00034936 one's life breaking bad habits is not H-1VDth_p4U-00144-00034937-00034987 easy H-1VDth_p4U-00145-00034988-00035266 it requires conscious karmic effort thus H-1VDth_p4U-00146-00035267-00035488 psycheon habit according to Potter and H-1VDth_p4U-00147-00035489-00035680 others linked karma to causality in H-1VDth_p4U-00148-00035681-00035956 ancient Indian literature the idea of H-1VDth_p4U-00149-00035957-00036160 karma may be compared to the notion of a H-1VDth_p4U-00150-00036161-00036442 person's character as both are an H-1VDth_p4U-00151-00036443-00036631 assessment of the person and determined H-1VDth_p4U-00152-00036632-00036817 by that person's habitual thinking and H-1VDth_p4U-00153-00036818-00037329 acting H-1VDth_p4U-00154-00037330-00037910 topic karma and ëthis is a ssin H-1VDth_p4U-00155-00037911-00038114 the second theme come in to karma H-1VDth_p4U-00156-00038115-00038348 theories is etta cessation this begins H-1VDth_p4U-00157-00038349-00038533 with the premise that every action has a H-1VDth_p4U-00158-00038534-00038624 consequence H-1VDth_p4U-00159-00038625-00038764 which will come to fruition in either H-1VDth_p4U-00160-00038765-00038999 this or a future life thus morally good H-1VDth_p4U-00161-00039000-00039208 acts will have positive consequences H-1VDth_p4U-00162-00039209-00039395 whereas bad acts will produce negative H-1VDth_p4U-00163-00039396-00039674 results an individual's present H-1VDth_p4U-00164-00039675-00039862 situation is thereby explained by H-1VDth_p4U-00165-00039863-00040067 reference to actions in his present or H-1VDth_p4U-00166-00040068-00040324 in previous lifetimes karma is not H-1VDth_p4U-00167-00040325-00040658 itself reward and Punishment but the law H-1VDth_p4U-00168-00040659-00040898 that produces consequence help fast H-1VDth_p4U-00169-00040899-00041123 notes good karma is considered as Dharma H-1VDth_p4U-00170-00041124-00041374 and leads to punya merit while bad karma H-1VDth_p4U-00171-00041375-00041539 is considered a Dharma and leads to H-1VDth_p4U-00172-00041540-00041789 papdi merits in Reichenbach suggests H-1VDth_p4U-00173-00041790-00041933 that the theories of karma are an H-1VDth_p4U-00174-00041934-00042187 ethical theory this is so because the H-1VDth_p4U-00175-00042188-00042392 ancient scholars of india linked intent H-1VDth_p4U-00176-00042393-00042602 and actual action to the merit reward H-1VDth_p4U-00177-00042603-00042874 demerit and punishment a theory without H-1VDth_p4U-00178-00042875-00043085 ethical premise would be a pure causal H-1VDth_p4U-00179-00043086-00043312 relation the merit or reward or demerit H-1VDth_p4U-00180-00043313-00043486 or punishment would be same regardless H-1VDth_p4U-00181-00043487-00043768 of the actors intent in ethics one's H-1VDth_p4U-00182-00043769-00043999 intentions attitudes and desires matter H-1VDth_p4U-00183-00044000-00044273 in the evaluation of one's action where H-1VDth_p4U-00184-00044274-00044468 the outcome is unintended the moral H-1VDth_p4U-00185-00044469-00044660 responsibility for it is less on the H-1VDth_p4U-00186-00044661-00044882 actor even though causal responsibility H-1VDth_p4U-00187-00044883-00045139 may be the same regardless a karma H-1VDth_p4U-00188-00045140-00045368 Theory considers not only the action but H-1VDth_p4U-00189-00045369-00045593 also actors intentions attitude and H-1VDth_p4U-00190-00045594-00045868 desires before and during the action the H-1VDth_p4U-00191-00045869-00046070 karma concept thus encourages each H-1VDth_p4U-00192-00046071-00046282 person to seek and live a moral life as H-1VDth_p4U-00193-00046283-00046526 well as avoid an immoral life the H-1VDth_p4U-00194-00046527-00046714 meaning and significance of karma as H-1VDth_p4U-00195-00046715-00046904 thus is a building block of an ethical H-1VDth_p4U-00196-00046905-00047424 theory H-1VDth_p4U-00197-00047425-00047898 topic rebirth H-1VDth_p4U-00198-00047899-00048143 the third common theme of karma theories H-1VDth_p4U-00199-00048144-00048360 is the concept of reincarnation or the H-1VDth_p4U-00200-00048361-00048665 cycle of rebirths samsara rebirth is a H-1VDth_p4U-00201-00048666-00048887 fundamental concept of Hinduism Buddhism H-1VDth_p4U-00202-00048888-00049233 Jainism and Sikhism the concept has been H-1VDth_p4U-00203-00049234-00049412 intensely debated in ancient literature H-1VDth_p4U-00204-00049413-00049626 of India with different schools of H-1VDth_p4U-00205-00049627-00049787 Indian religions considering the H-1VDth_p4U-00206-00049788-00049983 relevance of rebirth as either essential H-1VDth_p4U-00207-00049984-00050240 or secondary or unnecessary fiction H-1VDth_p4U-00208-00050241-00050537 karma is a basic concept rebirth as a H-1VDth_p4U-00209-00050538-00050780 derivative concept so suggest skreal H-1VDth_p4U-00210-00050781-00051012 karma is a fact assert some unit area H-1VDth_p4U-00211-00051013-00051261 while reincarnation is a hypothesis in H-1VDth_p4U-00212-00051262-00051527 contrast Haryana suggests rebirth is a H-1VDth_p4U-00213-00051528-00051876 necessary corollary of karma rebirth or H-1VDth_p4U-00214-00051877-00052098 samsara is the concept that all life H-1VDth_p4U-00215-00052099-00052244 forms go through a cycle of H-1VDth_p4U-00216-00052245-00052463 reincarnation that is a series of births H-1VDth_p4U-00217-00052464-00052761 and reverse the rebirths and consequent H-1VDth_p4U-00218-00052762-00052971 life maybe in different realm condition H-1VDth_p4U-00219-00052972-00053244 or form the Karma theory suggests that H-1VDth_p4U-00220-00053245-00053466 the realm condition and form depends on H-1VDth_p4U-00221-00053466-00053669 the quality and quantity of karma in H-1VDth_p4U-00222-00053670-00053919 schools that believe in rebirth every H-1VDth_p4U-00223-00053920-00054065 living beings soul transmigrates H-1VDth_p4U-00224-00054066-00054324 recycles after death carrying the seeds H-1VDth_p4U-00225-00054325-00054516 of karmic impulses from life just H-1VDth_p4U-00226-00054516-00054726 completed into another life and lifetime H-1VDth_p4U-00227-00054727-00054944 of Karma's this cycle continues H-1VDth_p4U-00228-00054945-00055149 indefinitely except for those who H-1VDth_p4U-00229-00055150-00055344 consciously break this cycle by reaching H-1VDth_p4U-00230-00055345-00055619 moxa those who break the cycle reach the H-1VDth_p4U-00231-00055620-00055817 realm of gods those who don't continue H-1VDth_p4U-00232-00055819-00056121 in the cycle the theory of karma and H-1VDth_p4U-00233-00056122-00056469 rebirth raises numerous questions such H-1VDth_p4U-00234-00056470-00056676 as how when and why did the cycle start H-1VDth_p4U-00235-00056677-00056784 in the first place H-1VDth_p4U-00236-00056785-00056969 what is the relative karmic merit of one H-1VDth_p4U-00237-00056970-00057182 karma versus another and why and what H-1VDth_p4U-00238-00057183-00057366 evidence is there that rebirth actually H-1VDth_p4U-00239-00057366-00057660 happens among others various schools of H-1VDth_p4U-00240-00057661-00057854 hinduism realized these difficulties H-1VDth_p4U-00241-00057855-00058067 debated their own formulations some H-1VDth_p4U-00242-00058069-00058197 reaching what they considered as H-1VDth_p4U-00243-00058198-00058382 internally consistent theories while H-1VDth_p4U-00244-00058383-00058613 other schools modified and emphasized it H-1VDth_p4U-00245-00058614-00058836 while a few schools in Hinduism such as H-1VDth_p4U-00246-00058837-00059109 charvak as loci Etana abandoned karma H-1VDth_p4U-00247-00059110-00059421 and rebirth theory altogether schools of H-1VDth_p4U-00248-00059422-00059666 Buddhism consider karma rebirth cycle as H-1VDth_p4U-00249-00059667-00059792 integral to their theories of H-1VDth_p4U-00250-00059794-00060386 soteriology H-1VDth_p4U-00251-00060387-00060940 topic early development H-1VDth_p4U-00252-00060941-00061149 the Vedic Sanskrit word Carmen H-1VDth_p4U-00253-00061150-00061517 nominative karma means work or deed H-1VDth_p4U-00254-00061518-00061767 often used in the context of Shraddha H-1VDth_p4U-00255-00061768-00062085 rituals in the Rig Veda the word occurs H-1VDth_p4U-00256-00062086-00062417 some 40 times in SATA Potter brahmana H-1VDth_p4U-00257-00062418-00062736 1.7.1 got five sacrifices declared as H-1VDth_p4U-00258-00062737-00062971 the greatest of works H-1VDth_p4U-00259-00062972-00063249 siddhappa the brahmana 10.1 dot 4 dot H-1VDth_p4U-00260-00063250-00063486 one associates the potential of becoming H-1VDth_p4U-00261-00063487-00063693 immortal Amara with the karma of the H-1VDth_p4U-00262-00063694-00063936 Agni guiana sacrifice the earliest clear H-1VDth_p4U-00263-00063937-00064122 discussion of the karma doctrine is in H-1VDth_p4U-00264-00064123-00064215 the Upanishads H-1VDth_p4U-00265-00064216-00064521 for example the causality and ëthis is a H-1VDth_p4U-00266-00064522-00064781 ssin is stated in breda naka Upanishad H-1VDth_p4U-00267-00064782-00065118 3.2.1 three truly one becomes good H-1VDth_p4U-00268-00065119-00065337 through good deeds and evil through evil H-1VDth_p4U-00269-00065338-00065622 deeds some authors state that the H-1VDth_p4U-00270-00065623-00065841 samsara transmigration and karma H-1VDth_p4U-00271-00065842-00066054 doctrine may be non vedic and the ideas H-1VDth_p4U-00272-00066055-00066278 may have developed enough shramana H-1VDth_p4U-00273-00066279-00066516 traditions that preceded Buddhism and H-1VDth_p4U-00274-00066517-00066735 Jainism others state that some of the H-1VDth_p4U-00275-00066736-00066942 complex ideas of the ancient emerging H-1VDth_p4U-00276-00066943-00067116 theory of karma flowed from Vedic H-1VDth_p4U-00277-00067117-00067302 thinkers to Buddhist and Jain thinkers H-1VDth_p4U-00278-00067303-00067563 the mutual influences between the H-1VDth_p4U-00279-00067564-00067759 traditions is unclear and likely H-1VDth_p4U-00280-00067760-00067986 co-developed many philosophical debates H-1VDth_p4U-00281-00067987-00068169 surrounding the concept are shared by H-1VDth_p4U-00282-00068170-00068382 the Hindu Jain and Buddhist traditions H-1VDth_p4U-00283-00068383-00068538 and the early developments in each H-1VDth_p4U-00284-00068539-00068739 tradition incorporated different novel H-1VDth_p4U-00285-00068740-00069018 ideas for example Buddhists allowed H-1VDth_p4U-00286-00069019-00069210 karma transfer from one person to H-1VDth_p4U-00287-00069211-00069390 another and Shraddha writes but had H-1VDth_p4U-00288-00069391-00069614 difficulty defending the rationale in H-1VDth_p4U-00289-00069615-00069897 contrast Hindu schools and Jainism would H-1VDth_p4U-00290-00069898-00070077 not allow the possibility of karma H-1VDth_p4U-00291-00070078-00070638 transfer H-1VDth_p4U-00292-00070639-00071169 topic in Hinduism H-1VDth_p4U-00293-00071170-00071409 the concept of karma in Hinduism H-1VDth_p4U-00294-00071410-00071658 developed and evolved over centuries the H-1VDth_p4U-00295-00071659-00071859 earliest Upanishads began with the H-1VDth_p4U-00296-00071860-00072063 questions about how and why man is born H-1VDth_p4U-00297-00072064-00072330 and what happens after death has answers H-1VDth_p4U-00298-00072331-00072516 to the latter the early theories in H-1VDth_p4U-00299-00072517-00072732 these ancient Sanskrit documents include H-1VDth_p4U-00300-00072733-00072966 pen cagney Vidya the five fire doctrine H-1VDth_p4U-00301-00072967-00073044 pit Rhianna H-1VDth_p4U-00302-00073045-00073260 the cyclic path of fathers in devayani H-1VDth_p4U-00303-00073261-00073515 the cycle transcending path of the gods H-1VDth_p4U-00304-00073516-00073785 those who do superficial rituals and H-1VDth_p4U-00305-00073786-00074001 seek material gain claimed these ancient H-1VDth_p4U-00306-00074002-00074202 scholars travel the way of their fathers H-1VDth_p4U-00307-00074203-00074382 and recycled back into another life H-1VDth_p4U-00308-00074383-00074568 those who renounce these go into the H-1VDth_p4U-00309-00074569-00074745 forest and pursue spiritual knowledge H-1VDth_p4U-00310-00074746-00074910 were claimed to climb into the higher H-1VDth_p4U-00311-00074911-00075174 path of the Gods it is these who break H-1VDth_p4U-00312-00075175-00075399 the cycle and are not reborn with the H-1VDth_p4U-00313-00075400-00075597 composition of the epics the common H-1VDth_p4U-00314-00075598-00075819 man's introduction to Dharma in Hinduism H-1VDth_p4U-00315-00075820-00076026 the ideas of causality and essential H-1VDth_p4U-00316-00076027-00076197 elements of the theory of karma were H-1VDth_p4U-00317-00076198-00076455 being recited in folk stories for H-1VDth_p4U-00318-00076456-00076600 example H-1VDth_p4U-00319-00076601-00076813 as a man himself South so he himself H-1VDth_p4U-00320-00076814-00077038 reaps no man inherits the good or evil H-1VDth_p4U-00321-00077039-00077311 act of another man the fruit is of the H-1VDth_p4U-00322-00077312-00077629 same quality as the action in the 13th H-1VDth_p4U-00323-00077630-00077845 book of the Mahabharata also called the H-1VDth_p4U-00324-00077846-00078052 teaching book an assassin up our v6 H-1VDth_p4U-00325-00078053-00078286 chapter opens with Yudhisthira asking H-1VDth_p4U-00326-00078287-00078508 Bhishma is the course of a person's life H-1VDth_p4U-00327-00078509-00078763 already destined or can human effort H-1VDth_p4U-00328-00078764-00079078 shape one's life the future replies H-1VDth_p4U-00329-00079079-00079273 Bhishma is both a function of current H-1VDth_p4U-00330-00079274-00079459 human effort derived from freewill and H-1VDth_p4U-00331-00079460-00079642 past human actions that set the H-1VDth_p4U-00332-00079643-00079945 circumstances over and over again the H-1VDth_p4U-00333-00079946-00080152 chapters of Mahabharata recite the key H-1VDth_p4U-00334-00080153-00080410 postulates of karma theory that is H-1VDth_p4U-00335-00080411-00080695 intent and action karma has consequences H-1VDth_p4U-00336-00080696-00080890 karma lingers and doesn't disappear and H-1VDth_p4U-00337-00080891-00081142 all positive or negative experiences in H-1VDth_p4U-00338-00081143-00081412 life require effort and intent for H-1VDth_p4U-00339-00081413-00081736 example over time various schools of H-1VDth_p4U-00340-00081737-00081919 hinduism developed many different H-1VDth_p4U-00341-00081920-00082138 definitions of Karma some making karma H-1VDth_p4U-00342-00082139-00082336 appear quite deterministic while others H-1VDth_p4U-00343-00082337-00082560 make room for free will and moral agency H-1VDth_p4U-00344-00082561-00082828 among the six most studied schools of H-1VDth_p4U-00345-00082829-00083056 Hinduism the theory of karma evolved in H-1VDth_p4U-00346-00083057-00083221 different ways as their respective H-1VDth_p4U-00347-00083222-00083380 scholars reasoned and attempted to H-1VDth_p4U-00348-00083381-00083562 address the internal inconsistencies H-1VDth_p4U-00349-00083563-00083773 implications and issues of the karma H-1VDth_p4U-00350-00083774-00084151 doctrine according to how fast the Naya H-1VDth_p4U-00351-00084152-00084379 school of Hinduism considers karma and H-1VDth_p4U-00352-00084380-00084556 rebirth is central with some Yaya H-1VDth_p4U-00353-00084557-00084772 scholars such as uh Diana suggesting H-1VDth_p4U-00354-00084773-00084952 that the karma doctrine implies that God H-1VDth_p4U-00355-00084953-00085276 exists the Weisse essica school does not H-1VDth_p4U-00356-00085277-00085450 consider the karma from past lives H-1VDth_p4U-00357-00085451-00085732 doctrine very important the samkhya H-1VDth_p4U-00358-00085733-00085906 School considers karma to be of H-1VDth_p4U-00359-00085907-00086035 secondary importance H-1VDth_p4U-00360-00086036-00086350 prakruti as primary the mimamsa school H-1VDth_p4U-00361-00086351-00086560 gives a negligible role to karma from H-1VDth_p4U-00362-00086561-00086653 past lives H-1VDth_p4U-00363-00086654-00086989 disregard samsara and moxa the yoga H-1VDth_p4U-00364-00086990-00087190 school considers karma from past lives H-1VDth_p4U-00365-00087191-00087409 to be secondary one's behavior and H-1VDth_p4U-00366-00087410-00087601 psychology in the current life as what H-1VDth_p4U-00367-00087602-00087751 has consequences and leads to H-1VDth_p4U-00368-00087752-00088045 entanglements according to Professor H-1VDth_p4U-00369-00088046-00088165 Wilhelm help fast H-1VDth_p4U-00370-00088166-00088339 the vet on to school acknowledges the H-1VDth_p4U-00371-00088340-00088546 Karma rebirth doctrine but concludes it H-1VDth_p4U-00372-00088547-00088714 is a theory that is not derived from H-1VDth_p4U-00373-00088715-00088966 reality and cannot be proven considers H-1VDth_p4U-00374-00088967-00089161 it invalid for its failure to explain H-1VDth_p4U-00375-00089162-00089404 evil and equality other observable facts H-1VDth_p4U-00376-00089405-00089626 about society treats it as a convenient H-1VDth_p4U-00377-00089627-00089839 fiction to solve practical problems in H-1VDth_p4U-00378-00089840-00089999 upanishadic times and H-1VDth_p4U-00379-00090000-00090152 claire's it irrelevant in the Advaita H-1VDth_p4U-00380-00090153-00090380 Vedanta school actions in current life H-1VDth_p4U-00381-00090381-00090593 have moral consequences and liberation H-1VDth_p4U-00382-00090594-00090812 is possible within one's life as Javan H-1VDth_p4U-00383-00090813-00091052 bhakti self-realized person the above H-1VDth_p4U-00384-00091053-00091253 six schools illustrate the diversity of H-1VDth_p4U-00385-00091254-00091547 views but are not exhaustive each school H-1VDth_p4U-00386-00091548-00091769 has sub schools in Hinduism such as H-1VDth_p4U-00387-00091770-00091982 Vedanta schools non-dualism and dualism H-1VDth_p4U-00388-00091983-00092276 sub schools furthermore there are other H-1VDth_p4U-00389-00092277-00092480 schools of Hinduism such as charvaka H-1VDth_p4U-00390-00092481-00092735 lochia da the materialists who denied H-1VDth_p4U-00391-00092736-00092933 the theory of karma rebirth as well as H-1VDth_p4U-00392-00092934-00093119 the existence of God - this school of H-1VDth_p4U-00393-00093120-00093329 Hindus the properties of things come H-1VDth_p4U-00394-00093330-00093460 from the nature of things H-1VDth_p4U-00395-00093461-00093731 causality emerges from the interaction H-1VDth_p4U-00396-00093732-00093917 actions and nature of things and people H-1VDth_p4U-00397-00093918-00094160 determinative principles such as karma H-1VDth_p4U-00398-00094161-00094447 or God are unnecessary H-1VDth_p4U-00399-00094448-00094724 topic and Buddhism karma and karma fala H-1VDth_p4U-00400-00094725-00094985 are fundamental concepts in Buddhism the H-1VDth_p4U-00401-00094986-00095231 concepts of karma and karma fala explain H-1VDth_p4U-00402-00095232-00095450 how our intentional actions keep us tied H-1VDth_p4U-00403-00095451-00095645 to rebirth in samsara whereas the H-1VDth_p4U-00404-00095646-00095840 Buddhist path as exemplified in the H-1VDth_p4U-00405-00095841-00096029 Noble Eightfold Path shows us the way H-1VDth_p4U-00406-00096030-00096317 out of samsara karma fala is the fruit H-1VDth_p4U-00407-00096318-00096656 effect or result of karma a similar term H-1VDth_p4U-00408-00096657-00096761 is karma vipaka H-1VDth_p4U-00409-00096762-00097064 the maturation or cooking of karma the H-1VDth_p4U-00410-00097065-00097292 cycle of rebirth is determined by karma H-1VDth_p4U-00411-00097293-00097529 literally action in the Buddhist H-1VDth_p4U-00412-00097530-00097769 tradition karma refers to actions driven H-1VDth_p4U-00413-00097770-00097976 by intention sattanna a deed done H-1VDth_p4U-00414-00097977-00098201 deliberately through body speech or mind H-1VDth_p4U-00415-00098202-00098495 which leads to future consequences the H-1VDth_p4U-00416-00098496-00098713 'nobody Cassata enget are and nakiya H-1VDth_p4U-00417-00098714-00098984 6.63 intention cetana H-1VDth_p4U-00418-00098985-00099284 I tell you is kama intending when does H-1VDth_p4U-00419-00099285-00099536 kama by way of body speech and intellect H-1VDth_p4U-00420-00099537-00099797 how these intentional actions lead to H-1VDth_p4U-00421-00099798-00100022 rebirth and how the idea of rebirth is H-1VDth_p4U-00422-00100023-00100196 to be reconciled with the doctrines of H-1VDth_p4U-00423-00100197-00100400 impermanence and no self is a matter of H-1VDth_p4U-00424-00100401-00100598 philosophical inquiry in the Buddhist H-1VDth_p4U-00425-00100599-00100775 traditions for which several solutions H-1VDth_p4U-00426-00100776-00101084 have been proposed in early Buddhism no H-1VDth_p4U-00427-00101085-00101309 explicit theory of rebirth and karma has H-1VDth_p4U-00428-00101310-00101495 worked out and the Karma doctrine may H-1VDth_p4U-00429-00101496-00101681 have been incidental to early Buddhist H-1VDth_p4U-00430-00101682-00101945 soteriology in early Buddhism rebirth is H-1VDth_p4U-00431-00101946-00102206 ascribed to craving or ignorant the H-1VDth_p4U-00432-00102207-00102365 Buddhist teaching of karma is not H-1VDth_p4U-00433-00102366-00102610 strictly deterministic but incorporated H-1VDth_p4U-00434-00102611-00102805 circumstantial factors unlike that of H-1VDth_p4U-00435-00102806-00103057 the Jains it is not a rigid and H-1VDth_p4U-00436-00103058-00103291 mechanical process but a flexible fluid H-1VDth_p4U-00437-00103292-00103448 and dynamic H-1VDth_p4U-00438-00103449-00103697 there is no set linear relationship H-1VDth_p4U-00439-00103698-00103874 between a particular action and its H-1VDth_p4U-00440-00103875-00104158 results the karmic effect of a deed is H-1VDth_p4U-00441-00104159-00104335 not determined solely by the deed itself H-1VDth_p4U-00442-00104336-00104576 but also by the nature of the person who H-1VDth_p4U-00443-00104577-00104686 commits the deed and by the H-1VDth_p4U-00444-00104688-00104893 circumstances in which it is committed H-1VDth_p4U-00445-00104894-00105184 karma fillet is not a judgment enforced H-1VDth_p4U-00446-00105185-00105413 by a God deity or other supernatural H-1VDth_p4U-00447-00105414-00105583 being that controls the affairs of the H-1VDth_p4U-00448-00105584-00105905 cosmos rather karma fella is the outcome H-1VDth_p4U-00449-00105906-00106132 of a natural process of cause-and-effect H-1VDth_p4U-00450-00106133-00106397 within Buddhism the real importance of H-1VDth_p4U-00451-00106398-00106568 the doctrine of karma and its fruits H-1VDth_p4U-00452-00106569-00106766 lies in the recognition of the urgency H-1VDth_p4U-00453-00106767-00106981 to put a stop to the whole process the H-1VDth_p4U-00454-00106982-00107236 ascended asada warns that the results of H-1VDth_p4U-00455-00107238-00107428 kama is one of the four incomprehensible H-1VDth_p4U-00456-00107429-00107695 subjects subjects that are beyond all H-1VDth_p4U-00457-00107696-00107867 conceptualization and cannot be H-1VDth_p4U-00458-00107868-00108032 understood with logical thought or H-1VDth_p4U-00459-00108033-00108088 reason H-1VDth_p4U-00460-00108089-00108320 Nichiren Buddhism teaches that H-1VDth_p4U-00461-00108321-00108511 transformation and change through faith H-1VDth_p4U-00462-00108513-00108716 and practice changes adverse Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00463-00108717-00108929 negative causes made in the past that H-1VDth_p4U-00464-00108930-00109097 result in negative results in the H-1VDth_p4U-00465-00109098-00109313 present and future to positive causes H-1VDth_p4U-00466-00109314-00109955 for benefits in the future H-1VDth_p4U-00467-00109956-00110476 topic in Jainism H-1VDth_p4U-00468-00110477-00110821 in Jainism karma conveys a totally H-1VDth_p4U-00469-00110822-00110979 different meaning from that commonly H-1VDth_p4U-00470-00110980-00111169 understood in Hindu philosophy and H-1VDth_p4U-00471-00111170-00111478 Western civilization Jain philosophy is H-1VDth_p4U-00472-00111479-00111664 the oldest Indian philosophy that H-1VDth_p4U-00473-00111665-00111885 completely separates body matter from H-1VDth_p4U-00474-00111886-00112183 the soul pure consciousness in Jainism H-1VDth_p4U-00475-00112183-00112399 karma is referred to as karmic dirt as H-1VDth_p4U-00476-00112400-00112611 it consists of very subtle particles of H-1VDth_p4U-00477-00112613-00112824 matter that pervade the entire universe H-1VDth_p4U-00478-00112825-00113056 Karma's are attracted to the karmic H-1VDth_p4U-00479-00113057-00113245 field of a soul due to vibrations H-1VDth_p4U-00480-00113246-00113500 created by activities of mind speech and H-1VDth_p4U-00481-00113501-00113668 body as well as various mental H-1VDth_p4U-00482-00113669-00113926 dispositions hence the Karma's are the H-1VDth_p4U-00483-00113927-00114058 subtle matter surrounding the H-1VDth_p4U-00484-00114058-00114313 consciousness of a soul when these two H-1VDth_p4U-00485-00114314-00114502 components consciousness and karma H-1VDth_p4U-00486-00114503-00114724 interact we experience the life we know H-1VDth_p4U-00487-00114725-00115059 at present Jain texts expound that seven H-1VDth_p4U-00488-00115060-00115231 Tattvas truths or fundamentals H-1VDth_p4U-00489-00115232-00115627 constitute reality these are Jeeva the H-1VDth_p4U-00490-00115628-00115774 soul which is characterized by H-1VDth_p4U-00491-00115775-00116103 consciousness a Jeeva the non soul a H-1VDth_p4U-00492-00116104-00116379 Strava inflow of auspicious and evil H-1VDth_p4U-00493-00116380-00116677 karmic matter into the soul bandha H-1VDth_p4U-00494-00116678-00116908 bondage mutual intermingling of the soul H-1VDth_p4U-00495-00116908-00117202 and Karma's Sam vara stoppage H-1VDth_p4U-00496-00117203-00117391 obstruction of the inflow of karmic H-1VDth_p4U-00497-00117392-00117718 matter into the soul near Jarah gradual H-1VDth_p4U-00498-00117719-00117954 dissociation separation are falling off H-1VDth_p4U-00499-00117955-00118200 a part of karmic matter from the soul H-1VDth_p4U-00500-00118201-00118450 moksha liberation complete annihilation H-1VDth_p4U-00501-00118451-00118666 of all karmic matter found with any H-1VDth_p4U-00502-00118667-00118983 particular soul according to Pat man of H-1VDth_p4U-00503-00118984-00119173 Jamie this emphasis on reaping the H-1VDth_p4U-00504-00119174-00119368 fruits only of one's own karma was not H-1VDth_p4U-00505-00119369-00119590 restricted to the janus both Hindus and H-1VDth_p4U-00506-00119591-00119725 Buddhists writers have produced H-1VDth_p4U-00507-00119726-00119923 doctrinal materials stressing the same H-1VDth_p4U-00508-00119924-00120169 point each of the latter traditions H-1VDth_p4U-00509-00120170-00120400 however developed practices in basic H-1VDth_p4U-00510-00120401-00120684 contradiction to such belief in addition H-1VDth_p4U-00511-00120685-00120891 to Shraddha the ritual Hindu offerings H-1VDth_p4U-00512-00120892-00121090 by the son of deceased we find among H-1VDth_p4U-00513-00121091-00121288 Hindus widespread adherence to the H-1VDth_p4U-00514-00121289-00121474 notion of divine intervention in one's H-1VDth_p4U-00515-00121475-00121678 fate while Buddhists eventually came to H-1VDth_p4U-00516-00121679-00121840 propound such theories like boon H-1VDth_p4U-00517-00121841-00122071 granting Bodhisattvas transfer of merit H-1VDth_p4U-00518-00122072-00122296 and like only Jane does have been H-1VDth_p4U-00519-00122297-00122527 absolutely unwilling to allow such ideas H-1VDth_p4U-00520-00122528-00122725 to penetrate their community despite the H-1VDth_p4U-00521-00122726-00122824 fact that there must have been H-1VDth_p4U-00522-00122825-00123028 tremendous amount of social pressure on H-1VDth_p4U-00523-00123029-00123322 them to do so the key points where the H-1VDth_p4U-00524-00123323-00123547 theory of karma in Jainism can be stated H-1VDth_p4U-00525-00123548-00123693 as follows H-1VDth_p4U-00526-00123694-00123903 karma operates as a self-sustaining H-1VDth_p4U-00527-00123904-00124098 mechanism as natural universal law H-1VDth_p4U-00528-00124099-00124281 without any need of an external entity H-1VDth_p4U-00529-00124282-00124472 to manage them absence of the exogenous H-1VDth_p4U-00530-00124473-00124920 divine entity in Jainism Jainism H-1VDth_p4U-00531-00124921-00125124 advocates that a soul attracts karmic H-1VDth_p4U-00532-00125125-00125292 matter even with the thoughts and not H-1VDth_p4U-00533-00125293-00125595 just the actions thus to even think evil H-1VDth_p4U-00534-00125596-00125783 if someone would endure a karma bandha H-1VDth_p4U-00535-00125784-00126042 or an increment in bad karma for this H-1VDth_p4U-00536-00126043-00126279 reason Jainism emphasized on developing H-1VDth_p4U-00537-00126280-00126513 Ratna TRAI the three jewels Sameach H-1VDth_p4U-00538-00126514-00126761 darsana right faith Sameach jnana right H-1VDth_p4U-00539-00126763-00126951 knowledge and Sameach Chara right H-1VDth_p4U-00540-00126952-00127293 conduct in Jain theology a soul is H-1VDth_p4U-00541-00127294-00127497 released of worldly Affairs as soon as H-1VDth_p4U-00542-00127498-00127733 it is able to emancipate from the karma H-1VDth_p4U-00543-00127734-00128064 bandha in Jainism Nirvana and moksha are H-1VDth_p4U-00544-00128065-00128325 used interchangeably Nirvana represents H-1VDth_p4U-00545-00128326-00128499 anihilation of all Karma's by an H-1VDth_p4U-00546-00128500-00128733 individual soul in moksha represents the H-1VDth_p4U-00547-00128733-00128916 perfect blissful state free from all H-1VDth_p4U-00548-00128917-00129183 bondage in the presence of a tear thang H-1VDth_p4U-00549-00129183-00129374 ARA the soul can attain kevala jnana H-1VDth_p4U-00550-00129375-00129606 omniscience and subsequently nirvana H-1VDth_p4U-00551-00129607-00129783 without any need of intervention by the H-1VDth_p4U-00552-00129783-00130128 Tirthankara the karmic theory in Jainism H-1VDth_p4U-00553-00130129-00130374 operates and dodging ously even the tear H-1VDth_p4U-00554-00130375-00130530 thanked cars themselves have to go H-1VDth_p4U-00555-00130531-00130722 through the stages of emancipation for H-1VDth_p4U-00556-00130723-00131025 attaining that state Jainism treats all H-1VDth_p4U-00557-00131026-00131262 souls equally in asmik as it advocates H-1VDth_p4U-00558-00131263-00131439 that all souls have the same potential H-1VDth_p4U-00559-00131440-00131712 of attaining Nirvana only those who make H-1VDth_p4U-00560-00131713-00131880 effort really attain it but nonetheless H-1VDth_p4U-00561-00131881-00132135 each soul is capable on its own to do so H-1VDth_p4U-00562-00132136-00132810 by gradually reducing its Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00563-00132811-00133428 topic reception in other traditions H-1VDth_p4U-00564-00133429-00133777 you H-1VDth_p4U-00565-00133778-00134269 topic Sikhism H-1VDth_p4U-00566-00134270-00134499 in Sikhism all living beings are H-1VDth_p4U-00567-00134500-00134634 described as being under the influence H-1VDth_p4U-00568-00134635-00134979 of Maya's three qualities always present H-1VDth_p4U-00569-00134980-00135157 together in varying mix and degrees H-1VDth_p4U-00570-00135158-00135378 these three qualities of Maya bind the H-1VDth_p4U-00571-00135379-00135560 soul to the body into the earth plane H-1VDth_p4U-00572-00135561-00135796 above these three qualities as the H-1VDth_p4U-00573-00135797-00136018 eternal time due to the influence of H-1VDth_p4U-00574-00136019-00136185 three modes of Maya's nature H-1VDth_p4U-00575-00136186-00136369 Jebus individual beings perform H-1VDth_p4U-00576-00136370-00136599 activities under the control and purview H-1VDth_p4U-00577-00136600-00136870 of the eternal time these activities are H-1VDth_p4U-00578-00136871-00136914 called H-1VDth_p4U-00579-00136915-00137218 Karma the underlying principle is that H-1VDth_p4U-00580-00137219-00137395 karma is the law that brings back the H-1VDth_p4U-00581-00137396-00137559 results of actions to the person H-1VDth_p4U-00582-00137560-00137845 performing them this life is likened to H-1VDth_p4U-00583-00137846-00138036 a field in which our karma is the seed H-1VDth_p4U-00584-00138037-00138348 we harvest exactly what we sow no less H-1VDth_p4U-00585-00138349-00138636 no more this infallible law of karma H-1VDth_p4U-00586-00138637-00138847 holds everyone responsible for what the H-1VDth_p4U-00587-00138848-00139122 person is or is going to be based on the H-1VDth_p4U-00588-00139123-00139357 total sum of past karma some feel close H-1VDth_p4U-00589-00139358-00139524 to the pure being in this life and H-1VDth_p4U-00590-00139525-00139771 others feel separated this is the gur H-1VDth_p4U-00591-00139772-00140001 bonnie's Sri Guru Granth Sahib law of H-1VDth_p4U-00592-00140002-00140281 karma like other Indian and oriental H-1VDth_p4U-00593-00140282-00140466 schools of thought the Gurbani also H-1VDth_p4U-00594-00140467-00140634 accepts the doctrines of karma and H-1VDth_p4U-00595-00140635-00141311 reincarnation as the facts of nature H-1VDth_p4U-00596-00141312-00141818 topic Shintoism H-1VDth_p4U-00597-00141819-00142107 interpreted as musubi a view of karma is H-1VDth_p4U-00598-00142108-00142313 recognized in Shintoism as a means of H-1VDth_p4U-00599-00142314-00143003 enriching empowering and life-affirming H-1VDth_p4U-00600-00143004-00143483 topic Daoism H-1VDth_p4U-00601-00143484-00143771 karma is an important concept in Taoism H-1VDth_p4U-00602-00143772-00143993 every deed is tracked by deities and H-1VDth_p4U-00603-00143994-00144221 spirits appropriate rewards or H-1VDth_p4U-00604-00144222-00144434 retribution follow karma just like a H-1VDth_p4U-00605-00144435-00144632 shadow follows a person the Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00606-00144633-00144814 doctrine of Taoism developed in three H-1VDth_p4U-00607-00144815-00145123 stages in the first stage causality H-1VDth_p4U-00608-00145124-00145331 between actions and consequences was H-1VDth_p4U-00609-00145332-00145561 adopted with supernatural beings keeping H-1VDth_p4U-00610-00145562-00145750 track of everyone's karma and assigning H-1VDth_p4U-00611-00145751-00145981 fate main in the second phase H-1VDth_p4U-00612-00145982-00146219 transferability of karma ideas from H-1VDth_p4U-00613-00146220-00146432 Chinese Buddhism were expanded and a H-1VDth_p4U-00614-00146433-00146641 transfer or inheritance of karmic fate H-1VDth_p4U-00615-00146642-00146851 from ancestors to one's current life was H-1VDth_p4U-00616-00146852-00147131 introduced in the third stage of karma H-1VDth_p4U-00617-00147132-00147332 doctrine development ideas of rebirth H-1VDth_p4U-00618-00147333-00147598 based on karma were added one could be H-1VDth_p4U-00619-00147599-00147814 reborn either as another human being or H-1VDth_p4U-00620-00147815-00148007 another animal according to this belief H-1VDth_p4U-00621-00148008-00148319 in the third stage additional ideas were H-1VDth_p4U-00622-00148320-00148504 introduced for example rituals H-1VDth_p4U-00623-00148505-00148697 repentance and offerings at Taoist H-1VDth_p4U-00624-00148698-00148852 temples were encouraged as it could H-1VDth_p4U-00625-00148853-00149444 alleviate karmic burden H-1VDth_p4U-00626-00149445-00149962 topic Falun Gong H-1VDth_p4U-00627-00149963-00150265 found beat 2008 claims that Falun Gong H-1VDth_p4U-00628-00150266-00150472 differs from Buddhism in its definition H-1VDth_p4U-00629-00150473-00150622 of the term Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00630-00150623-00150859 in that it is taken not as a process of H-1VDth_p4U-00631-00150860-00151015 award and punishment but as an H-1VDth_p4U-00632-00151016-00151288 exclusively negative term the Chinese H-1VDth_p4U-00633-00151289-00151714 term duh or virtue is reserved for what H-1VDth_p4U-00634-00151715-00151956 might otherwise be termed good karma in H-1VDth_p4U-00635-00151957-00152218 Buddhism karma is understood as the H-1VDth_p4U-00636-00152219-00152389 source of all suffering what Buddhism H-1VDth_p4U-00637-00152390-00152776 might refer to as bad karma Li says a H-1VDth_p4U-00638-00152777-00153052 person has done bad things over his many H-1VDth_p4U-00639-00153053-00153313 lifetimes and for people this results in H-1VDth_p4U-00640-00153314-00153535 misfortune or for cultivators it's H-1VDth_p4U-00641-00153536-00153666 karmic obstacles H-1VDth_p4U-00642-00153667-00153883 so there's birth aging sickness and H-1VDth_p4U-00643-00153884-00154300 death this is ordinary Karma falen Gong H-1VDth_p4U-00644-00154301-00154483 teaches that the spirit is locked in the H-1VDth_p4U-00645-00154484-00154716 cycle of rebirth also known as samsara H-1VDth_p4U-00646-00154717-00154996 due to the accumulation of karma this is H-1VDth_p4U-00647-00154997-00155154 a negative black substance that H-1VDth_p4U-00648-00155155-00155356 accumulates in other dimensions lifetime H-1VDth_p4U-00649-00155357-00155577 after lifetime by doing bad deeds and H-1VDth_p4U-00650-00155578-00155860 thinking bad thoughts Falun Gong states H-1VDth_p4U-00651-00155861-00156019 that karma is the reason for suffering H-1VDth_p4U-00652-00156020-00156228 and what ultimately blocks people from H-1VDth_p4U-00653-00156229-00156397 the truth of the universe and attaining H-1VDth_p4U-00654-00156398-00156685 enlightenment at the same time karma is H-1VDth_p4U-00655-00156686-00156868 also the cause of one's continued H-1VDth_p4U-00656-00156869-00157144 rebirth and suffering Li says that due H-1VDth_p4U-00657-00157145-00157339 to accumulation of karma the human H-1VDth_p4U-00658-00157340-00157564 spirit upon death will reincarnate over H-1VDth_p4U-00659-00157565-00157768 and over again until the Karma is paid H-1VDth_p4U-00660-00157769-00157987 off or eliminated through cultivation or H-1VDth_p4U-00661-00157988-00158176 the person is destroyed due to the bad H-1VDth_p4U-00662-00158177-00158377 deeds he has done Envy regards the H-1VDth_p4U-00663-00158378-00158587 concept of Karma as a cornerstone to H-1VDth_p4U-00664-00158588-00158809 individual moral behavior in Falun Gong H-1VDth_p4U-00665-00158810-00159003 and also readily traceable to the H-1VDth_p4U-00666-00159004-00159232 Christian doctrine of one reaps what one H-1VDth_p4U-00667-00159233-00159591 sows others say Matthew chapter 5 verse H-1VDth_p4U-00668-00159592-00159832 44 means no unbeliever will not fully H-1VDth_p4U-00669-00159833-00159994 reap what they sow until they are judged H-1VDth_p4U-00670-00159995-00160290 by God after death and hell on B says H-1VDth_p4U-00671-00160291-00160582 Falun Gong is differentiated by a system H-1VDth_p4U-00672-00160583-00160878 of transmigration though in which each H-1VDth_p4U-00673-00160879-00161110 organism is the reincarnation of a H-1VDth_p4U-00674-00161111-00161335 previous life form its current form H-1VDth_p4U-00675-00161336-00161514 having been determined by karmic H-1VDth_p4U-00676-00161515-00161725 calculation of the moral qualities of H-1VDth_p4U-00677-00161726-00162082 the previous lives lived on B says the H-1VDth_p4U-00678-00162083-00162244 seeming unfairness of manifest H-1VDth_p4U-00679-00162245-00162433 inequities can then be explained at the H-1VDth_p4U-00680-00162434-00162637 same time allowing a space for moral H-1VDth_p4U-00681-00162638-00162879 behavior in spite of them in the same H-1VDth_p4U-00682-00162880-00163104 vein of Li's monism matter and spirit H-1VDth_p4U-00683-00163105-00163353 are one karma is identified as a black H-1VDth_p4U-00684-00163354-00163515 substance which must be purged in the H-1VDth_p4U-00685-00163516-00163725 process of cultivation li says that H-1VDth_p4U-00686-00163726-00163974 human beings all fell here from the many H-1VDth_p4U-00687-00163975-00164245 dimensions of the universe they no H-1VDth_p4U-00688-00164246-00164482 longer met the requirements of the FA at H-1VDth_p4U-00689-00164483-00164676 their given levels in the universe and H-1VDth_p4U-00690-00164677-00164973 thus had to drop down just as we have H-1VDth_p4U-00691-00164974-00165198 said before the heavier ones mortal H-1VDth_p4U-00692-00165199-00165435 attachments the further down one drops H-1VDth_p4U-00693-00165436-00165658 with the descent continuing until one H-1VDth_p4U-00694-00165659-00165856 arrives at the state of ordinary human H-1VDth_p4U-00695-00165857-00166156 beings he says that in the eyes of H-1VDth_p4U-00696-00166157-00166345 higher beings the purpose of human life H-1VDth_p4U-00697-00166346-00166584 is not merely to be human but to awaken H-1VDth_p4U-00698-00166585-00166839 quickly on earth a setting of delusion H-1VDth_p4U-00699-00166840-00167109 and return that is what they really have H-1VDth_p4U-00700-00167110-00167336 in mind they are opening a door for you H-1VDth_p4U-00701-00167337-00167613 those who fail to return will have no H-1VDth_p4U-00702-00167614-00167814 choice but to reincarnate with this H-1VDth_p4U-00703-00167815-00168009 continuing until they amass a huge H-1VDth_p4U-00704-00168010-00168354 amount of karma and are destroyed envy H-1VDth_p4U-00705-00168355-00168576 regards this as the basis for Falun Gong H-1VDth_p4U-00706-00168577-00168810 is apparent opposition to practitioners H-1VDth_p4U-00707-00168811-00169033 taking medicine when ill they are H-1VDth_p4U-00708-00169034-00169272 missing an opportunity to work off karma H-1VDth_p4U-00709-00169273-00169500 by allowing an illness to run its course H-1VDth_p4U-00710-00169501-00169725 suffering depletes karma or to fight the H-1VDth_p4U-00711-00169726-00170022 illness through cultivation Benjamin H-1VDth_p4U-00712-00170023-00170257 penny shares this interpretation since H-1VDth_p4U-00713-00170258-00170502 Lee believes that karma is the primary H-1VDth_p4U-00714-00170503-00170748 factor that causes sickness in people H-1VDth_p4U-00715-00170749-00171109 penny asks if disease comes from karma H-1VDth_p4U-00716-00171110-00171312 and karma can be eradicated through H-1VDth_p4U-00717-00171313-00171522 cultivation of shame shame then what H-1VDth_p4U-00718-00171523-00171864 good will medicine do Lee himself states H-1VDth_p4U-00719-00171865-00172059 that he is not forbidding practitioners H-1VDth_p4U-00720-00172060-00172248 from taking medicine maintaining that H-1VDth_p4U-00721-00172249-00172483 what I'm doing is telling people the H-1VDth_p4U-00722-00172484-00172669 relationship between practicing H-1VDth_p4U-00723-00172670-00173037 cultivation and medicine taking Lee also H-1VDth_p4U-00724-00173038-00173301 states that an everyday person needs to H-1VDth_p4U-00725-00173302-00173504 take medicine when he gets sick H-1VDth_p4U-00726-00173505-00173766 Schechter quotes a Falun Gong student H-1VDth_p4U-00727-00173767-00173949 who says it is always an individual H-1VDth_p4U-00728-00173950-00174126 choice whether one should take medicine H-1VDth_p4U-00729-00174127-00174673 or not H-1VDth_p4U-00730-00174674-00175177 topic discussion H-1VDth_p4U-00731-00175178-00175518 you H-1VDth_p4U-00732-00175519-00176082 topic free will and destiny H-1VDth_p4U-00733-00176083-00176307 one of the significant controversies H-1VDth_p4U-00734-00176308-00176475 with the karma doctrine is whether it H-1VDth_p4U-00735-00176476-00176652 always implies destiny and its H-1VDth_p4U-00736-00176653-00176874 implications on free will this H-1VDth_p4U-00737-00176875-00177078 controversy is also referred to as the H-1VDth_p4U-00738-00177079-00177315 moral agency problem the controversy is H-1VDth_p4U-00739-00177316-00177516 not unique to karma doctrine but also H-1VDth_p4U-00740-00177517-00177723 found in some form in monotheistic H-1VDth_p4U-00741-00177724-00177942 religions the freewill controversy can H-1VDth_p4U-00742-00177943-00178170 be outlined in three parts one a person H-1VDth_p4U-00743-00178171-00178356 who kills rapes or commits any other H-1VDth_p4U-00744-00178357-00178599 unjust act can claim all his bad actions H-1VDth_p4U-00745-00178600-00178803 were a product of his Karma he is devoid H-1VDth_p4U-00746-00178804-00179016 of freewill he cannot make a choice he H-1VDth_p4U-00747-00179017-00179175 is an agent of karma and he merely H-1VDth_p4U-00748-00179176-00179367 delivers necessary punishments his H-1VDth_p4U-00749-00179368-00179640 wicked victims deserved for their own H-1VDth_p4U-00750-00179641-00179901 karma in past lives our crimes and H-1VDth_p4U-00751-00179902-00180096 unjust actions due to free will or H-1VDth_p4U-00752-00180097-00180303 because of forces of karma - does a H-1VDth_p4U-00753-00180304-00180474 person who suffers from the unnatural H-1VDth_p4U-00754-00180475-00180711 death of a loved one or rape or any H-1VDth_p4U-00755-00180712-00180948 other unjust act assume a moral agent is H-1VDth_p4U-00756-00180949-00181161 responsible that the harm is gratuitous H-1VDth_p4U-00757-00181162-00181437 and therefore seek justice or should one H-1VDth_p4U-00758-00181438-00181644 blame oneself for bad karma over past H-1VDth_p4U-00759-00181645-00181788 lives and assume that the unjust H-1VDth_p4U-00760-00181789-00182088 suffering is fate 3 does the Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00761-00182089-00182265 doctrine undermine the incentive for H-1VDth_p4U-00762-00182266-00182481 moral education because all suffering is H-1VDth_p4U-00763-00182482-00182691 deserved and consequence of past lives H-1VDth_p4U-00764-00182692-00182874 why learn anything when the balance H-1VDth_p4U-00765-00182875-00183063 sheet of karma from past lives will H-1VDth_p4U-00766-00183064-00183246 determine one's action and sufferings H-1VDth_p4U-00767-00183247-00183444 the explanations and replies to the H-1VDth_p4U-00768-00183445-00183627 above freewill problem vary by the H-1VDth_p4U-00769-00183628-00183855 specific school of Hinduism Buddhism and H-1VDth_p4U-00770-00183856-00184155 Jainism the schools of Hinduism such as H-1VDth_p4U-00771-00184156-00184341 yoga and Advaita Vedanta that have H-1VDth_p4U-00772-00184342-00184500 emphasized current life over the H-1VDth_p4U-00773-00184501-00184707 dynamics of karma residue moving across H-1VDth_p4U-00774-00184708-00184971 past lives allow free will their H-1VDth_p4U-00775-00184972-00185166 argument as well of other schools are H-1VDth_p4U-00776-00185167-00185352 threefold one the theory of karma H-1VDth_p4U-00777-00185353-00185556 includes both the action and the intent H-1VDth_p4U-00778-00185557-00185814 behind that action not only is one H-1VDth_p4U-00779-00185815-00186042 affected by past Karma one creates new H-1VDth_p4U-00780-00186043-00186261 karma whenever one acts with intent good H-1VDth_p4U-00781-00186262-00186546 or bad if intent intact can be proven H-1VDth_p4U-00782-00186547-00186765 beyond reasonable doubt new karma can be H-1VDth_p4U-00783-00186766-00186960 proven and the process of justice can H-1VDth_p4U-00784-00186961-00187233 proceed against this new Karma the actor H-1VDth_p4U-00785-00187234-00187410 who kills rapes or commits any other H-1VDth_p4U-00786-00187411-00187605 unjust act must be considered as the H-1VDth_p4U-00787-00187606-00187830 moral agent for this new karma and tried H-1VDth_p4U-00788-00187831-00188103 to life-forms not only receive and reap H-1VDth_p4U-00789-00188104-00188280 the consequence of their past karma H-1VDth_p4U-00790-00188281-00188460 together they are the means to initiate H-1VDth_p4U-00791-00188461-00188673 evaluate judge give and deliver H-1VDth_p4U-00792-00188674-00188877 consequence of karma to others three H-1VDth_p4U-00793-00188878-00189075 karma is a theory that explains some H-1VDth_p4U-00794-00189076-00189309 evils not all si moral evil versus H-1VDth_p4U-00795-00189310-00189362 natural H-1VDth_p4U-00796-00189363-00189575 evil other schools of Hinduism as well H-1VDth_p4U-00797-00189576-00189791 as buddhism and jainism that do consider H-1VDth_p4U-00798-00189792-00189974 cycle of rebirths central to their H-1VDth_p4U-00799-00189975-00190169 beliefs and that karma from past lives H-1VDth_p4U-00800-00190170-00190373 affects ones present believe that both H-1VDth_p4U-00801-00190374-00190610 freewill Satana and karma can coexist H-1VDth_p4U-00802-00190611-00190850 however their answers have not persuaded H-1VDth_p4U-00803-00190851-00191403 all scholars H-1VDth_p4U-00804-00191404-00192015 topic psychological indeterminacy H-1VDth_p4U-00805-00192016-00192234 another issue with the theory of karma H-1VDth_p4U-00806-00192235-00192396 is that it is psychologically H-1VDth_p4U-00807-00192397-00192630 indeterminate suggests so baya Sakaki H-1VDth_p4U-00808-00192631-00192876 that is one if no one can know what H-1VDth_p4U-00809-00192877-00193059 their karma was in previous lives and H-1VDth_p4U-00810-00193060-00193293 two if the Karma from past lives can H-1VDth_p4U-00811-00193294-00193446 determine one's future then the H-1VDth_p4U-00812-00193447-00193656 individual is psychologically unclear H-1VDth_p4U-00813-00193657-00193848 what if anything he or she can do now to H-1VDth_p4U-00814-00193849-00194079 shape the future be more happy or reduce H-1VDth_p4U-00815-00194080-00194361 suffering if something goes wrong such H-1VDth_p4U-00816-00194362-00194550 as sickness or failure at work the H-1VDth_p4U-00817-00194551-00194787 individual is unclear if karma from past H-1VDth_p4U-00818-00194788-00194988 lives was the cause or the sickness was H-1VDth_p4U-00819-00194989-00195195 caused by curable infection and the H-1VDth_p4U-00820-00195196-00195336 failure was caused by something H-1VDth_p4U-00821-00195337-00195503 correctable this psychological H-1VDth_p4U-00822-00195504-00195762 indeterminacy problem is also not unique H-1VDth_p4U-00823-00195763-00195954 to the theory of karma it is found in H-1VDth_p4U-00824-00195955-00196134 every religion adopting the premise that H-1VDth_p4U-00825-00196135-00196395 God has a plan or in some way influences H-1VDth_p4U-00826-00196396-00196647 human events as with the karma and H-1VDth_p4U-00827-00196648-00196851 freewill problem above schools that H-1VDth_p4U-00828-00196852-00197073 insist on primacy of rebirths face the H-1VDth_p4U-00829-00197074-00197334 most controversy their answers to the H-1VDth_p4U-00830-00197335-00197547 psychological indeterminacy issue are H-1VDth_p4U-00831-00197548-00197703 the same as those for addressing the H-1VDth_p4U-00832-00197704-00198263 freewill problem H-1VDth_p4U-00833-00198264-00198769 topic transferability H-1VDth_p4U-00834-00198770-00198983 some schools of Asian religions H-1VDth_p4U-00835-00198984-00199247 particularly popular Theravada Buddhism H-1VDth_p4U-00836-00199248-00199460 allow transfer of karma merit and H-1VDth_p4U-00837-00199461-00199724 demerit from one person to another this H-1VDth_p4U-00838-00199725-00199925 transfer is an exchange of non physical H-1VDth_p4U-00839-00199926-00200125 quality just like an exchange of H-1VDth_p4U-00840-00200126-00200333 physical goods between two human beings H-1VDth_p4U-00841-00200334-00200633 the practice of karma transfer or even H-1VDth_p4U-00842-00200634-00200941 its possibility is controversial karma H-1VDth_p4U-00843-00200942-00201149 transfer raises questions similar to H-1VDth_p4U-00844-00201150-00201364 those with substitutionary atonement and H-1VDth_p4U-00845-00201365-00201613 vicarious punishment it defeats the H-1VDth_p4U-00846-00201614-00201833 ethical foundations and dissociates the H-1VDth_p4U-00847-00201834-00202012 causality and ëthis is a ssin in the H-1VDth_p4U-00848-00202013-00202225 theory of karma from the moral agent H-1VDth_p4U-00849-00202226-00202436 proponents of some Buddhist schools H-1VDth_p4U-00850-00202437-00202666 suggest that the concept of karma merit H-1VDth_p4U-00851-00202667-00202879 transfer encourages religious giving and H-1VDth_p4U-00852-00202880-00203089 such transfers are not a mechanism to H-1VDth_p4U-00853-00203090-00203326 transfer bad karma ie demerit H-1VDth_p4U-00854-00203327-00203650 from one person to another in hinduism H-1VDth_p4U-00855-00203651-00203822 shraddha writes during funerals have H-1VDth_p4U-00856-00203823-00204013 been labeled as Karma merit transfer H-1VDth_p4U-00857-00204014-00204226 ceremonies by a few scholars acclaim H-1VDth_p4U-00858-00204227-00204502 disputed by others other schools in H-1VDth_p4U-00859-00204503-00204715 Hinduism such as the yoga and Advaita H-1VDth_p4U-00860-00204716-00204844 Vedanta philosophy H-1VDth_p4U-00861-00204846-00205057 and Jainism hold that karma cannot be H-1VDth_p4U-00862-00205058-00205594 transferred H-1VDth_p4U-00863-00205596-00206123 topic the problem of evil H-1VDth_p4U-00864-00206123-00206317 there has been an ongoing debate about H-1VDth_p4U-00865-00206319-00206510 karma theory and how it answers the H-1VDth_p4U-00866-00206511-00206732 problem of evil and related problem of H-1VDth_p4U-00867-00206733-00206992 theodicy the problem of evil as a H-1VDth_p4U-00868-00206994-00207176 significant question debated in H-1VDth_p4U-00869-00207177-00207383 monotheistic religions with two beliefs H-1VDth_p4U-00870-00207384-00207613 one there is one God who is absolutely H-1VDth_p4U-00871-00207614-00207811 good and compassionate amna benevolent H-1VDth_p4U-00872-00207812-00208052 and to that one God knows absolutely H-1VDth_p4U-00873-00208053-00208192 everything omniscient and is H-1VDth_p4U-00874-00208194-00208465 all-powerful omnipotent the problem of H-1VDth_p4U-00875-00208466-00208694 evil is then stated in formulations such H-1VDth_p4U-00876-00208694-00208885 as why does the Amna benevelon H-1VDth_p4U-00877-00208886-00209146 omniscient and omnipotent God allow any H-1VDth_p4U-00878-00209148-00209407 evil and suffering to exist in the world H-1VDth_p4U-00879-00209408-00209689 Max Weber extended the problem of evil H-1VDth_p4U-00880-00209690-00209900 to Eastern traditions the problem of H-1VDth_p4U-00881-00209901-00210119 evil in the context of karma has been H-1VDth_p4U-00882-00210119-00210296 long discussed in Eastern traditions H-1VDth_p4U-00883-00210296-00210494 both in theistic and non-theistic H-1VDth_p4U-00884-00210494-00210737 schools for example in utero mimamsa H-1VDth_p4U-00885-00210738-00210953 sutras book 2 chapter 1 the eighth H-1VDth_p4U-00886-00210954-00211178 century arguments by Adi Sankara in H-1VDth_p4U-00887-00211179-00211396 brahma sutra Basia where he posits that H-1VDth_p4U-00888-00211398-00211589 god cannot reasonably be the cause of H-1VDth_p4U-00889-00211590-00211790 the world because there exists moral H-1VDth_p4U-00890-00211791-00212048 evil inequality cruelty and suffering in H-1VDth_p4U-00891-00212048-00212264 the world and the 11th century theodicy H-1VDth_p4U-00892-00212265-00212488 discussion by Ramanuja in sri Basia H-1VDth_p4U-00893-00212489-00212738 epics such as the mahabharata for H-1VDth_p4U-00894-00212739-00212935 example suggests three prevailing H-1VDth_p4U-00895-00212936-00213131 theories in ancient india as to why good H-1VDth_p4U-00896-00213132-00213305 and evil exists one being that H-1VDth_p4U-00897-00213306-00213506 everything is ordained by God another H-1VDth_p4U-00898-00213507-00213707 being karma and a third citing chance H-1VDth_p4U-00899-00213708-00214025 events yah-yah-yah the Mahabharata which H-1VDth_p4U-00900-00214026-00214250 includes Hindu deity Vishnu in the form H-1VDth_p4U-00901-00214251-00214406 of Krishna as one of the central H-1VDth_p4U-00902-00214407-00214585 characters in the epic debates the H-1VDth_p4U-00903-00214586-00214766 nature and existence of suffering from H-1VDth_p4U-00904-00214767-00214964 these three perspectives and includes a H-1VDth_p4U-00905-00214965-00215156 theory of suffering as arising from an H-1VDth_p4U-00906-00215157-00215330 interplay of chance events such as H-1VDth_p4U-00907-00215331-00215506 floods and other events of nature H-1VDth_p4U-00908-00215507-00215746 circumstances created by past human H-1VDth_p4U-00909-00215748-00215903 actions and the current desires H-1VDth_p4U-00910-00215904-00216158 Volition's Dharma a Dharma and current H-1VDth_p4U-00911-00216159-00216467 actions purusa cara of people however H-1VDth_p4U-00912-00216467-00216683 while karma theory in the Mahabharata H-1VDth_p4U-00913-00216684-00216890 presents alternative perspectives on the H-1VDth_p4U-00914-00216891-00217103 problem of evil and suffering it offers H-1VDth_p4U-00915-00217104-00217307 no conclusive answer other scholars H-1VDth_p4U-00916-00217308-00217490 suggest that none theistic Indian H-1VDth_p4U-00917-00217491-00217676 religious traditions do not assume an H-1VDth_p4U-00918-00217677-00217873 omnipotent creator and some theistic H-1VDth_p4U-00919-00217875-00218090 schools do not define or characterize H-1VDth_p4U-00920-00218091-00218294 their gods as monotheistic Western H-1VDth_p4U-00921-00218294-00218459 religions do in the deities have H-1VDth_p4U-00922-00218460-00218671 colorful complex personalities the H-1VDth_p4U-00923-00218673-00218884 Indian deities are personal and cosmic H-1VDth_p4U-00924-00218885-00219042 facilitators and in some schools H-1VDth_p4U-00925-00219044-00219289 conceptualized like Plato's Demiurge H-1VDth_p4U-00926-00219290-00219515 therefore the problem of the H-1VDth_p4U-00927-00219516-00219704 see in many schools of major Indian H-1VDth_p4U-00928-00219705-00219919 religions is not significant or at least H-1VDth_p4U-00929-00219921-00220079 is of a different nature than in Western H-1VDth_p4U-00930-00220080-00220376 religions many Indian religions place H-1VDth_p4U-00931-00220377-00220604 greater emphasis on developing the Karma H-1VDth_p4U-00932-00220605-00220787 principle for first cause and innate H-1VDth_p4U-00933-00220788-00220994 justice with man as focused rather than H-1VDth_p4U-00934-00220994-00221183 developing religious principles with the H-1VDth_p4U-00935-00221184-00221363 nature and powers of God and divine H-1VDth_p4U-00936-00221364-00221630 judgment is focus some scholars H-1VDth_p4U-00937-00221631-00221821 particularly of the Naya school of H-1VDth_p4U-00938-00221823-00222046 Hinduism and sankhara in brahma sutra H-1VDth_p4U-00939-00222048-00222275 Basia deposited that karma doctrine H-1VDth_p4U-00940-00222276-00222515 implies existence of God who administers H-1VDth_p4U-00941-00222516-00222694 and affects the person's environment H-1VDth_p4U-00942-00222696-00222860 given that person's karma but then H-1VDth_p4U-00943-00222861-00223016 acknowledged that it makes karma as H-1VDth_p4U-00944-00223017-00223241 viable contingent and unable to address H-1VDth_p4U-00945-00223242-00223502 the problem of evil arthur Herrmann H-1VDth_p4U-00946-00223503-00223730 states that karma transmigration theory H-1VDth_p4U-00947-00223731-00223964 solves all three historical formulations H-1VDth_p4U-00948-00223965-00224102 to the problem of evil while H-1VDth_p4U-00949-00224103-00224296 acknowledging the theodicy insights of H-1VDth_p4U-00950-00224298-00224501 Sankara and Ramanuja some theistic H-1VDth_p4U-00951-00224502-00224777 Indian religions such as Sikhism suggest H-1VDth_p4U-00952-00224778-00224936 evil and suffering are a human H-1VDth_p4U-00953-00224937-00225131 phenomenon and arises from the Karma of H-1VDth_p4U-00954-00225132-00225416 individuals in other theistic schools H-1VDth_p4U-00955-00225417-00225644 such as those in Hinduism particularly H-1VDth_p4U-00956-00225644-00225854 it's--yeah school karma is combined with H-1VDth_p4U-00957-00225855-00226064 Dharma and evil as explained as arising H-1VDth_p4U-00958-00226065-00226289 from human actions and intent that is in H-1VDth_p4U-00959-00226290-00226550 conflict with Dharma in unti astac H-1VDth_p4U-00960-00226551-00226787 religions such as Buddhism Jainism and H-1VDth_p4U-00961-00226788-00227003 the mimamsa school of Hinduism karma H-1VDth_p4U-00962-00227004-00227177 theory is used to explain the cause of H-1VDth_p4U-00963-00227178-00227396 evil as well as to offer distinct ways H-1VDth_p4U-00964-00227396-00227639 to avoid or be unaffected by evil in the H-1VDth_p4U-00965-00227640-00227842 world those schools of Hinduism Buddhism H-1VDth_p4U-00966-00227844-00228083 and Jainism that rely on karma rebirth H-1VDth_p4U-00967-00228084-00228239 theory have been critiqued for their H-1VDth_p4U-00968-00228240-00228458 theological explanation of suffering and H-1VDth_p4U-00969-00228459-00228644 children by birth as the result of his H-1VDth_p4U-00970-00228644-00228908 or her sins in a past life others H-1VDth_p4U-00971-00228909-00229117 disagree and consider the critique as H-1VDth_p4U-00972-00229119-00229286 flawed and a misunderstanding of the H-1VDth_p4U-00973-00229287-00229871 karma theory H-1VDth_p4U-00974-00229871-00230277 topic comparable concepts H-1VDth_p4U-00975-00230278-00230469 you H-1VDth_p4U-00976-00230469-00230678 Western culture influenced by H-1VDth_p4U-00977-00230679-00230903 Christianity holds a notion similar to H-1VDth_p4U-00978-00230904-00231155 karma as demonstrated in the phrase what H-1VDth_p4U-00979-00231156-00231802 goes around comes around H-1VDth_p4U-00980-00231803-00232321 topic Christianity H-1VDth_p4U-00981-00232323-00232623 Maryjo meadow suggests karma as akin to H-1VDth_p4U-00982-00232625-00232909 Christian notions of sin and its effects H-1VDth_p4U-00983-00232910-00233129 she states that the Christian teaching H-1VDth_p4U-00984-00233130-00233323 on the Last Judgement according to one's H-1VDth_p4U-00985-00233325-00233544 charity is that teaching on karma H-1VDth_p4U-00986-00233546-00233819 Christianity also teaches morals such as H-1VDth_p4U-00987-00233819-00234026 one reaps what one sows Galatians H-1VDth_p4U-00988-00234027-00234263 chapter 6 verse 7 and live by the sword H-1VDth_p4U-00989-00234264-00234503 die by the sword Matthew chapter 26 H-1VDth_p4U-00990-00234504-00234878 verse 52 most scholars however consider H-1VDth_p4U-00991-00234879-00235058 the concept of Last Judgment as H-1VDth_p4U-00992-00235059-00235250 different from karma with karma as an H-1VDth_p4U-00993-00235251-00235475 ongoing process that occurs everyday in H-1VDth_p4U-00994-00235476-00235664 one's life while Last Judgement by H-1VDth_p4U-00995-00235665-00235885 contrast is a one-time review at the end H-1VDth_p4U-00996-00235886-00236413 of life H-1VDth_p4U-00997-00236414-00236909 topic Judaism H-1VDth_p4U-00998-00236910-00237173 there is a concept in Judaism called in H-1VDth_p4U-00999-00237173-00237398 Hebrew Mita connect Mita which literally H-1VDth_p4U-01000-00237398-00237746 translates to value against value but H-1VDth_p4U-01001-00237746-00237926 carries the same connotation as the H-1VDth_p4U-01002-00237927-00238217 English phrase measure for measure the H-1VDth_p4U-01003-00238217-00238427 concept is used not so much in matters H-1VDth_p4U-01004-00238428-00238648 of law but rather in matters of ethics H-1VDth_p4U-01005-00238650-00238862 ie how one's actions affects the world H-1VDth_p4U-01006-00238863-00239063 will eventually come back to that person H-1VDth_p4U-01007-00239064-00239292 in ways one might not necessarily expect H-1VDth_p4U-01008-00239294-00239561 David won't be compared me to connect H-1VDth_p4U-01009-00239562-00240091 Mita to Karma H-1VDth_p4U-01010-00240092-00240630 topic psychoanalysis H-1VDth_p4U-01011-00240631-00240917 young once opined on unresolved emotions H-1VDth_p4U-01012-00240919-00241194 and a synchronicity of karma when an H-1VDth_p4U-01013-00241194-00241392 inner situation has not made conscious H-1VDth_p4U-01014-00241392-00241704 it appears outside his fate popular H-1VDth_p4U-01015-00241705-00241863 methods for negating cognitive H-1VDth_p4U-01016-00241864-00242028 dissonance include meditation H-1VDth_p4U-01017-00242029-00242294 metacognition counseling psychoanalysis H-1VDth_p4U-01018-00242294-00242567 etc whose aim is to enhance emotional H-1VDth_p4U-01019-00242569-00242744 self-awareness and thus avoid negative H-1VDth_p4U-01020-00242746-00242819 Karma H-1VDth_p4U-01021-00242821-00243075 this results in better emotional hygiene H-1VDth_p4U-01022-00243076-00243348 and reduced karmic impacts permanent H-1VDth_p4U-01023-00243348-00243558 neuronal changes within the amygdala and H-1VDth_p4U-01024-00243559-00243759 left prefrontal cortex of the human H-1VDth_p4U-01025-00243760-00243960 brain attributed to long-term meditation H-1VDth_p4U-01026-00243961-00244158 and metacognition techniques have been H-1VDth_p4U-01027-00244159-00244446 proven scientifically this process of H-1VDth_p4U-01028-00244446-00244671 emotional maturation aspires to a goal H-1VDth_p4U-01029-00244671-00244914 of individuation or self-actualization H-1VDth_p4U-01030-00244915-00245226 such peak experiences are hypothetically H-1VDth_p4U-01031-00245227-00245935 devoid of any Karma Nirvana or moksha H-1VDth_p4U-01032-00245936-00246638 topic theosophy spiritism New Age H-1VDth_p4U-01033-00246639-00246908 the idea of karma was popularized in the H-1VDth_p4U-01034-00246909-00247076 Western world through the work of the H-1VDth_p4U-01035-00247077-00247361 Theosophical society in this conception H-1VDth_p4U-01036-00247362-00247610 karma was a precursor to the neo-pagan H-1VDth_p4U-01037-00247611-00247850 law of return or threefold law the idea H-1VDth_p4U-01038-00247851-00248044 that the beneficial or harmful effects H-1VDth_p4U-01039-00248046-00248207 one has on the world will return to H-1VDth_p4U-01040-00248208-00248489 oneself colloquially this may be summed H-1VDth_p4U-01041-00248490-00248687 up as what goes around comes around H-1VDth_p4U-01042-00248688-00248960 the theosophist i kate i'm me wrote H-1VDth_p4U-01043-00248961-00249215 karma is nothing but the law of cause H-1VDth_p4U-01044-00249216-00249437 and effect operating in the realm of H-1VDth_p4U-01045-00249438-00249590 human life and bringing about H-1VDth_p4U-01046-00249591-00249830 adjustments between an individual and H-1VDth_p4U-01047-00249831-00250055 other individuals whom he has affected H-1VDth_p4U-01048-00250056-00250327 by his thoughts emotions and actions H-1VDth_p4U-01049-00250328-00250625 theosophy also teaches that when humans H-1VDth_p4U-01050-00250626-00250814 reincarnate they come back as humans H-1VDth_p4U-01051-00250815-00251565 only not as animals or other organisms H-1VDth_p4U-01052-00251566-00252101 topic see also H-1VDth_p4U-01053-00252102-00252455 equals equals nodes HD_9oKnMsXy-00000-00000049-00000468 world computer Chess Championship WCCC HD_9oKnMsXy-00001-00000469-00000816 is an annual event where computer chess HD_9oKnMsXy-00002-00000817-00001161 engines compete against each other the HD_9oKnMsXy-00003-00001162-00001452 event is organized by the international HD_9oKnMsXy-00004-00001453-00001814 computer games Association it is often HD_9oKnMsXy-00005-00001815-00002055 held in conjunction with the computer HD_9oKnMsXy-00006-00002056-00002295 Olympiad a collection of computer HD_9oKnMsXy-00007-00002296-00003059 tournaments for other board games HD_9oKnMsXy-00008-00003060-00003709 topic championship results HD_9oKnMsXy-00009-00003710-00004102 the WCCC is open to all types of HD_9oKnMsXy-00010-00004103-00004389 computers including micro processors HD_9oKnMsXy-00011-00004390-00004691 supercomputers clusters and dedicated HD_9oKnMsXy-00012-00004692-00004916 chess hardware HD_9oKnMsXy-00013-00004917-00005306 in 2007 the reigning champion jr. HD_9oKnMsXy-00014-00005307-00005695 declined to defend its title for the HD_9oKnMsXy-00015-00005696-00006029 2009 edition the rules were changed to HD_9oKnMsXy-00016-00006030-00006290 limit platforms to commodity hardware HD_9oKnMsXy-00017-00006291-00006559 supporting at most eight cores thereby HD_9oKnMsXy-00018-00006561-00006799 excluding supercomputers and large HD_9oKnMsXy-00019-00006800-00007220 clusters thereafter a parallel software HD_9oKnMsXy-00020-00007220-00007526 championship was held instead unlimited HD_9oKnMsXy-00021-00007527-00007733 hardware is still allowed in the HD_9oKnMsXy-00022-00007734-00008414 championship proper HD_9oKnMsXy-00023-00008415-00009178 Topic world chess software championship HD_9oKnMsXy-00024-00009179-00009445 from 2010 a new tournament was HD_9oKnMsXy-00025-00009446-00009727 introduced and held at the same location HD_9oKnMsXy-00026-00009728-00009974 and during the same period as the world HD_9oKnMsXy-00027-00009975-00010342 computer Chess Championship the rules HD_9oKnMsXy-00028-00010343-00010546 for the world chess software HD_9oKnMsXy-00029-00010547-00010777 championship state that competing HD_9oKnMsXy-00030-00010778-00011024 programs must run on machines with HD_9oKnMsXy-00031-00011025-00011446 identical hardware specifications time HD_9oKnMsXy-00032-00011447-00011781 control as game in 45 minutes with HD_9oKnMsXy-00033-00011782-00012137 15-second increment due to the HD_9oKnMsXy-00034-00012138-00012401 requirement to be present on-site play HD_9oKnMsXy-00035-00012402-00012683 on a physical board and strict rules of HD_9oKnMsXy-00036-00012684-00013016 originality many strong programs refrain HD_9oKnMsXy-00037-00013016-00013399 from participating in the ICG a event as HD_9oKnMsXy-00038-00013400-00013661 the conditions of the software HD_9oKnMsXy-00039-00013662-00013916 championship can easily be emulated by HD_9oKnMsXy-00040-00013916-00014246 anyone with a high-end PC there are now HD_9oKnMsXy-00041-00014247-00014500 privately conducted tournaments such as HD_9oKnMsXy-00042-00014501-00014788 top chess engine championship that have HD_9oKnMsXy-00043-00014790-00015031 much broader attendance as well as a HD_9oKnMsXy-00044-00015032-00015293 larger number of games to reduce the HD_9oKnMsXy-00045-00015294-00015977 influence of chance HD_9oKnMsXy-00046-00015978-00016347 Topic world microcomputer Chess HD_9oKnMsXy-00047-00016349-00016785 Championship HD_9oKnMsXy-00048-00016786-00017349 from 1980 to 2001 the ICCA I CGA HD_9oKnMsXy-00049-00017350-00017604 organized a separate cycle of HD_9oKnMsXy-00050-00017605-00017832 championships limited to programs HD_9oKnMsXy-00051-00017833-00018222 running on micro processors in the first HD_9oKnMsXy-00052-00018223-00018465 three championships the winners were HD_9oKnMsXy-00053-00018466-00018749 dedicated chess computers and then in HD_9oKnMsXy-00054-00018750-00018882 1984 HD_9oKnMsXy-00055-00018883-00019131 Richard Lang's Scion program shared HD_9oKnMsXy-00056-00019132-00019494 first place running on an IBM PC under HD_9oKnMsXy-00057-00019495-00020145 ms-dos at the 14th WM CCC in Jakarta the HD_9oKnMsXy-00058-00020146-00020454 Israeli team jr. was denied entry to HD_9oKnMsXy-00059-00020455-00020697 Indonesia and some other teams dropped HD_9oKnMsXy-00060-00020698-00021309 out in protest the 16th WM CCC was the HD_9oKnMsXy-00061-00021310-00022175 same as the ninth WCCC above HD_9oKnMsXy-00062-00022176-00022754 topic see also HD_9oKnMsXy-00063-00022755-00023315 chess engine computer chess computer HD_9oKnMsXy-00064-00023316-00023544 Olympiad HD_9oKnMsXy-00065-00023545-00023905 old computers speed Chess Championship HD_9oKnMsXy-00066-00023906-00024124 North American computer Chess HD_9oKnMsXy-00067-00024125-00024519 Championship Dutch open computer chess HD_9oKnMsXy-00068-00024520-00024868 championship top chess engine HD_9oKnMsXy-00069-00024869-00025162 championship HE7OS9G7yeu-00000-00000239-00000532 all right welcome to 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Wordpress and you're watching me HE7OS9G7yeu-00126-00027306-00027467 click all of these different places we HE7OS9G7yeu-00127-00027468-00027667 do have some courses over at HE7OS9G7yeu-00128-00027668-00027929 learn.wordpress.org as well so it will HE7OS9G7yeu-00129-00027930-00028096 move a little fast because it is also HE7OS9G7yeu-00130-00028097-00028379 doubling as a 6.2 WordPress preview so HE7OS9G7yeu-00131-00028380-00028523 if you're totally brand new just know HE7OS9G7yeu-00132-00028524-00028702 you are so welcome you are welcome to HE7OS9G7yeu-00133-00028704-00028883 ask questions people who you know are HE7OS9G7yeu-00134-00028883-00029045 threes four is fives please answer those HE7OS9G7yeu-00135-00029045-00029183 questions in the chat and we'll just HE7OS9G7yeu-00136-00029183-00029435 keep this moving HE7OS9G7yeu-00137-00029436-00029657 um somebody requested that we go over HE7OS9G7yeu-00138-00029658-00029812 adding functions to block themes with HE7OS9G7yeu-00139-00029813-00030017 custom post types that is an advanced HE7OS9G7yeu-00140-00030018-00030208 topic beyond the scope of today but I HE7OS9G7yeu-00141-00030210-00030395 have noted it and I will probably if I HE7OS9G7yeu-00142-00030395-00030593 can figure it out figure out how to do HE7OS9G7yeu-00143-00030594-00030802 this for a more advanced HE7OS9G7yeu-00144-00030804-00031181 um online Workshop so let's get started HE7OS9G7yeu-00145-00031182-00031457 first off what is the topic of your blog HE7OS9G7yeu-00146-00031458-00031589 what is it and it could be your website HE7OS9G7yeu-00147-00031589-00031768 too like this kind of doubles us both I HE7OS9G7yeu-00148-00031769-00031955 just like the title build a Blog but HE7OS9G7yeu-00149-00031956-00032117 what is the topic of your blog go ahead HE7OS9G7yeu-00150-00032118-00032339 and answer in the chat box HE7OS9G7yeu-00151-00032339-00032614 um some of mine parrots I talk about HE7OS9G7yeu-00152-00032616-00032812 living with birds I have family recipes HE7OS9G7yeu-00153-00032813-00032968 that you'll see today it's just for my HE7OS9G7yeu-00154-00032969-00033137 family though no one in the right mind HE7OS9G7yeu-00155-00033138-00033431 should ever uh I mean sorry no one HE7OS9G7yeu-00156-00033432-00033635 should ever use my recipes they're not HE7OS9G7yeu-00157-00033636-00033862 thrown together very well HE7OS9G7yeu-00158-00033863-00034067 um I had a random personal one the HE7OS9G7yeu-00159-00034068-00034193 latest one I've been working on is an HE7OS9G7yeu-00160-00034194-00034349 open source teaching contributing stuff HE7OS9G7yeu-00161-00034350-00034565 like adventures in WordPress HE7OS9G7yeu-00162-00034566-00034727 um and then I'm also starting a blog on HE7OS9G7yeu-00163-00034728-00034859 attempting to travel I'd work with HE7OS9G7yeu-00164-00034860-00035087 parrots in an RV so good luck to me but HE7OS9G7yeu-00165-00035088-00035543 what are your blog topics HE7OS9G7yeu-00166-00035544-00035729 oh there's one on cities and HE7OS9G7yeu-00167-00035730-00035981 german-speaking countries I need that on HE7OS9G7yeu-00168-00035982-00036124 my travel bucket list that sounds HE7OS9G7yeu-00169-00036125-00036427 fantastic oh I would so read that Blog HE7OS9G7yeu-00170-00036428-00036809 the football one yes HE7OS9G7yeu-00171-00036810-00037061 um an urban hiking in and around Denver HE7OS9G7yeu-00172-00037062-00037451 oh Lisa yes ah I can't wait for that one HE7OS9G7yeu-00173-00037452-00037612 I might be utilizing that in the near HE7OS9G7yeu-00174-00037613-00037696 future HE7OS9G7yeu-00175-00037697-00037955 any others HE7OS9G7yeu-00176-00037956-00038233 what do you like to write about HE7OS9G7yeu-00177-00038234-00038530 psychogeography and walking wow HE7OS9G7yeu-00178-00038531-00038723 I generally build websites for clients I HE7OS9G7yeu-00179-00038724-00038939 include a Blog Page yeah okay beautiful HE7OS9G7yeu-00180-00038940-00039055 okay HE7OS9G7yeu-00181-00039056-00039509 entrepreneur over 45 WP help desk yes oh HE7OS9G7yeu-00182-00039510-00039809 such great ideas ah I love it thank you HE7OS9G7yeu-00183-00039810-00040073 so much for sharing software projects HE7OS9G7yeu-00184-00040074-00040373 all of that Ah that's so great HE7OS9G7yeu-00185-00040374-00040565 cool HE7OS9G7yeu-00186-00040566-00040702 so HE7OS9G7yeu-00187-00040703-00040895 um we I sent out an email some setup HE7OS9G7yeu-00188-00040896-00041015 instructions if you wanted to follow HE7OS9G7yeu-00189-00041016-00041165 along here HE7OS9G7yeu-00190-00041166-00041290 um those set of instructions can be HE7OS9G7yeu-00191-00041291-00041465 found here I will drop this link in the HE7OS9G7yeu-00192-00041466-00041699 chat you are welcome to do this along HE7OS9G7yeu-00193-00041700-00042029 with us if you would like but I'm hoping HE7OS9G7yeu-00194-00042030-00042280 you all have some set up already it both HE7OS9G7yeu-00195-00042281-00042455 sets up a local installation on your HE7OS9G7yeu-00196-00042456-00042652 computer and it also gets you set up to HE7OS9G7yeu-00197-00042653-00042923 use WordPress 6.2 in a safe space that's HE7OS9G7yeu-00198-00042924-00043145 not going to break your real website so HE7OS9G7yeu-00199-00043146-00043505 Let's uh yeah let's let's get started so HE7OS9G7yeu-00200-00043506-00043801 I'm going to move over to my test blog HE7OS9G7yeu-00201-00043802-00044201 and right away does anybody notice any HE7OS9G7yeu-00202-00044202-00044590 differences HE7OS9G7yeu-00203-00044591-00045017 do you see a change HE7OS9G7yeu-00204-00045018-00045490 just curious HE7OS9G7yeu-00205-00045491-00045652 while you're writing I'm going to click HE7OS9G7yeu-00206-00045653-00046193 into this editor over here yes Gene you HE7OS9G7yeu-00207-00046194-00046379 are absolutely right there is no longer HE7OS9G7yeu-00208-00046380-00046793 a beta button here uh the WordPress site HE7OS9G7yeu-00209-00046794-00047033 editor has come so far that the HE7OS9G7yeu-00210-00047034-00047285 developers felt that it was time to HE7OS9G7yeu-00211-00047286-00047501 remove that beta flag so that is HE7OS9G7yeu-00212-00047502-00047680 wonderful HE7OS9G7yeu-00213-00047681-00047890 and yeah so since we're using a block HE7OS9G7yeu-00214-00047891-00048124 theme there's not a customize button HE7OS9G7yeu-00215-00048125-00048293 here we're going to be using this editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00216-00048294-00048461 button so if you are following Along on HE7OS9G7yeu-00217-00048462-00048611 your own head to your WordPress HE7OS9G7yeu-00218-00048612-00048845 dashboard hover over appearance and HE7OS9G7yeu-00219-00048846-00049007 editor you're going to notice some new HE7OS9G7yeu-00220-00049008-00049302 things here that are coming out with 6.2 HE7OS9G7yeu-00221-00049303-00049589 the first of which is that hey we've got HE7OS9G7yeu-00222-00049590-00049835 a beautiful sidebar here that shows HE7OS9G7yeu-00223-00049836-00050039 templates template parts we can click HE7OS9G7yeu-00224-00050040-00050189 through pick different ones and we're HE7OS9G7yeu-00225-00050190-00050308 going to go over what these are in just HE7OS9G7yeu-00226-00050309-00050423 a minute so if you're like what are HE7OS9G7yeu-00227-00050424-00050561 templates what are template Parts we'll HE7OS9G7yeu-00228-00050562-00050693 get there HE7OS9G7yeu-00229-00050694-00050945 um but it does make navigating a little HE7OS9G7yeu-00230-00050946-00051089 bit easier it's a little bit more HE7OS9G7yeu-00231-00051090-00051335 intuitive so I'm really excited about HE7OS9G7yeu-00232-00051336-00051490 this change HE7OS9G7yeu-00233-00051491-00051730 so in order to move from this space to HE7OS9G7yeu-00234-00051732-00051916 the next you just have to click on this HE7OS9G7yeu-00235-00051917-00052085 box to the right here and that will take HE7OS9G7yeu-00236-00052086-00052504 you to your site editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00237-00052505-00052919 ah cool so let's HE7OS9G7yeu-00238-00052920-00053200 talk about design uh today we're HE7OS9G7yeu-00239-00053201-00053326 designing primarily so we're not HE7OS9G7yeu-00240-00053327-00053488 necessarily writing content we're not HE7OS9G7yeu-00241-00053489-00053621 writing our blog posts we're not HE7OS9G7yeu-00242-00053622-00053759 creating like an about me page or HE7OS9G7yeu-00243-00053760-00053992 content or a contact page HE7OS9G7yeu-00244-00053994-00054197 um and the overall idea is to focus on HE7OS9G7yeu-00245-00054198-00054557 the look and feel and structure of your HE7OS9G7yeu-00246-00054558-00054797 website so things like what always HE7OS9G7yeu-00247-00054798-00054971 appears at the top of your website your HE7OS9G7yeu-00248-00054972-00055132 header and what always appears at the HE7OS9G7yeu-00249-00055133-00055397 bottom of your footer and how your each HE7OS9G7yeu-00250-00055398-00055571 page template is laid out so that that's HE7OS9G7yeu-00251-00055572-00055930 basically the topic of today's Vlog so HE7OS9G7yeu-00252-00055932-00056087 for those of you who are ones and twos HE7OS9G7yeu-00253-00056088-00056266 and are like whoa like I this is the HE7OS9G7yeu-00254-00056267-00056423 first time I'm seeing this HE7OS9G7yeu-00255-00056424-00056692 um think about your theme as a picture HE7OS9G7yeu-00256-00056694-00056915 frame right so if your website is a HE7OS9G7yeu-00257-00056916-00057023 picture frame HE7OS9G7yeu-00258-00057024-00057197 at the very top when you're creating HE7OS9G7yeu-00259-00057198-00057359 your frame you've got your header this HE7OS9G7yeu-00260-00057360-00057526 often includes your logo your site title HE7OS9G7yeu-00261-00057527-00057713 your tagline maybe some navigation links HE7OS9G7yeu-00262-00057714-00057904 maybe a search and this is something HE7OS9G7yeu-00263-00057905-00058103 that is generally always at the very top HE7OS9G7yeu-00264-00058104-00058300 of your website it allows people to find HE7OS9G7yeu-00265-00058301-00058504 what they're looking for HE7OS9G7yeu-00266-00058505-00058607 um and the second thing that you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-00267-00058608-00058841 usually find on most WordPress themes is HE7OS9G7yeu-00268-00058841-00059057 a footer and you'll see copyrights HE7OS9G7yeu-00269-00059058-00059225 navigation links social media links HE7OS9G7yeu-00270-00059226-00059482 contacts Etc so when we design today HE7OS9G7yeu-00271-00059483-00059675 we're going to start by creating a HE7OS9G7yeu-00272-00059676-00059909 header creating a footer and then we'll HE7OS9G7yeu-00273-00059910-00060125 work on everything in between HE7OS9G7yeu-00274-00060126-00060316 so once you have them these are known as HE7OS9G7yeu-00275-00060317-00060569 template parts so these are things that HE7OS9G7yeu-00276-00060570-00060742 will be reused HE7OS9G7yeu-00277-00060744-00060947 um across all of your different posts HE7OS9G7yeu-00278-00060948-00061132 all of your different pages wherever HE7OS9G7yeu-00279-00061133-00061397 you've set them to be used so it's it's HE7OS9G7yeu-00280-00061398-00061666 an idea of hey design once and you don't HE7OS9G7yeu-00281-00061667-00061816 have to do this again and again and HE7OS9G7yeu-00282-00061817-00062057 again on every page so it's very very HE7OS9G7yeu-00283-00062058-00062219 cool in that HE7OS9G7yeu-00284-00062220-00062500 so in between we have our templates HE7OS9G7yeu-00285-00062501-00062657 um so this structures the way different HE7OS9G7yeu-00286-00062658-00062963 pages look and are laid out it's kind of HE7OS9G7yeu-00287-00062964-00063161 like the center of your of your photo HE7OS9G7yeu-00288-00063162-00063437 frame so you're going to see some HE7OS9G7yeu-00289-00063438-00063587 templates that include a page title HE7OS9G7yeu-00290-00063588-00063754 right and that pulls information from HE7OS9G7yeu-00291-00063755-00063923 pages so if you're making you know a HE7OS9G7yeu-00292-00063924-00064066 standard four page website you might HE7OS9G7yeu-00293-00064067-00064366 have home about us contact and I don't HE7OS9G7yeu-00294-00064367-00064500 know privacy policy or something HE7OS9G7yeu-00295-00064501-00064775 whatever you name each of those pages in HE7OS9G7yeu-00296-00064776-00064973 the dashboard that's where that appears HE7OS9G7yeu-00297-00064974-00065176 and then you'll find your page content HE7OS9G7yeu-00298-00065177-00065429 anything that you write in those poster HE7OS9G7yeu-00299-00065429-00065626 Pages gets pulled through and shows HE7OS9G7yeu-00300-00065627-00065891 through within this picture frame so and HE7OS9G7yeu-00301-00065892-00066065 that'll all be in between your header HE7OS9G7yeu-00302-00066066-00066256 and your footer HE7OS9G7yeu-00303-00066257-00066431 um and different pages can be set up to HE7OS9G7yeu-00304-00066432-00066659 display in different ways right so we've HE7OS9G7yeu-00305-00066660-00066821 got a page template this is how a HE7OS9G7yeu-00306-00066822-00067031 general page might look HE7OS9G7yeu-00307-00067032-00067300 um meanwhile a Blog template might look HE7OS9G7yeu-00308-00067301-00067456 something more like this where it has HE7OS9G7yeu-00309-00067457-00067600 you know whatever your blog's featured HE7OS9G7yeu-00310-00067601-00067805 images your post title the date it was HE7OS9G7yeu-00311-00067806-00068009 published and maybe an excerpt right so HE7OS9G7yeu-00312-00068010-00068255 this is pulling directly from a HE7OS9G7yeu-00313-00068256-00068423 different dashboard so for those of you HE7OS9G7yeu-00314-00068424-00068650 who are super new HE7OS9G7yeu-00315-00068651-00068800 um you can kind of see this here right HE7OS9G7yeu-00316-00068801-00068987 so this one is set up as a Blog right HE7OS9G7yeu-00317-00068988-00069179 now we've got a Hello World blog post HE7OS9G7yeu-00318-00069180-00069461 that's the title of the blog you don't HE7OS9G7yeu-00319-00069462-00069676 write in this site editor you don't HE7OS9G7yeu-00320-00069677-00069875 write your content there HE7OS9G7yeu-00321-00069876-00070037 so I'm going to head back to my HE7OS9G7yeu-00322-00070038-00070199 dashboard over here HE7OS9G7yeu-00323-00070200-00070559 you'll notice here if I click add new HE7OS9G7yeu-00324-00070560-00070882 give it a title uh HE7OS9G7yeu-00325-00070883-00071099 fighting birdies apparently I made it HE7OS9G7yeu-00326-00071100-00071243 all caps before this I don't know why I HE7OS9G7yeu-00327-00071244-00071723 did that that's okay I can write HE7OS9G7yeu-00328-00071724-00071975 my content here HE7OS9G7yeu-00329-00071976-00072244 I'm just going to take this and move HE7OS9G7yeu-00330-00072245-00072444 this over into my post settings here HE7OS9G7yeu-00331-00072445-00072635 again this is going to move a little HE7OS9G7yeu-00332-00072636-00072779 fast but I'm just going to drop this in HE7OS9G7yeu-00333-00072780-00073037 my excerpt I'm going to publish it HE7OS9G7yeu-00334-00073038-00073253 and you can see when I head to my HE7OS9G7yeu-00335-00073254-00073361 website HE7OS9G7yeu-00336-00073362-00073553 that the post title appeared here the HE7OS9G7yeu-00337-00073554-00073775 excerpt appeared here here's the date so HE7OS9G7yeu-00338-00073776-00073967 these templates structure the way HE7OS9G7yeu-00339-00073968-00074363 WordPress pulls things in from HE7OS9G7yeu-00340-00074364-00074717 uh your pages and your posts so that is HE7OS9G7yeu-00341-00074718-00075011 the quick overview of how your theme HE7OS9G7yeu-00342-00075012-00075382 works and I don't see any questions yet HE7OS9G7yeu-00343-00075383-00075653 in the chat all right looks like y'all HE7OS9G7yeu-00344-00075654-00075906 are with me so HE7OS9G7yeu-00345-00075907-00076403 let's keep going HE7OS9G7yeu-00346-00076404-00076744 so the first change was 6.2 solves a HE7OS9G7yeu-00347-00076745-00077105 very uh interesting problem and that is HE7OS9G7yeu-00348-00077106-00077231 when you're first looking at your HE7OS9G7yeu-00349-00077232-00077471 website there's not a lot there HE7OS9G7yeu-00350-00077472-00077638 um so it's really hard to know what it HE7OS9G7yeu-00351-00077639-00077855 is that you're styling HE7OS9G7yeu-00352-00077856-00078041 um so if you have an empty website the HE7OS9G7yeu-00353-00078042-00078179 style book is going to fix this problem HE7OS9G7yeu-00354-00078180-00078406 so someone asks hey I keep having to HE7OS9G7yeu-00355-00078407-00078575 adjust the font size when I add a block HE7OS9G7yeu-00356-00078576-00078755 is there a setting to edit the default HE7OS9G7yeu-00357-00078756-00078917 font size when adding a block so that HE7OS9G7yeu-00358-00078918-00079150 you can set it once and forget it and HE7OS9G7yeu-00359-00079151-00079343 then anytime you write a paragraph that HE7OS9G7yeu-00360-00079344-00079547 should be the the right one and the HE7OS9G7yeu-00361-00079548-00079750 answer is yes with the style book so HE7OS9G7yeu-00362-00079751-00079997 let's find it together now I'm gonna HE7OS9G7yeu-00363-00079998-00080176 head to HE7OS9G7yeu-00364-00080177-00080441 my dashboard WordPress 6.2 available HE7OS9G7yeu-00365-00080442-00080632 March 28th HE7OS9G7yeu-00366-00080633-00080944 um if I had to appearance and editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00367-00080945-00081055 foreign HE7OS9G7yeu-00368-00081056-00081329 change from 6.1 is that now you have to HE7OS9G7yeu-00369-00081330-00081521 click in here in order to find all of HE7OS9G7yeu-00370-00081522-00081725 your different tools HE7OS9G7yeu-00371-00081726-00081862 um we're going to head to a place called HE7OS9G7yeu-00372-00081863-00082073 our Styles so you see this little Half HE7OS9G7yeu-00373-00082074-00082276 Moon up here in the corner that is our HE7OS9G7yeu-00374-00082277-00082535 style setting this is the option where HE7OS9G7yeu-00375-00082536-00082781 you can go and set what you want your HE7OS9G7yeu-00376-00082782-00083009 website to look like in one spot and HE7OS9G7yeu-00377-00083010-00083326 have it apply everywhere now there's not HE7OS9G7yeu-00378-00083327-00083591 a lot on this blog right now HE7OS9G7yeu-00379-00083592-00083759 um so the way that we can figure out HE7OS9G7yeu-00380-00083760-00083932 what all of our different blocks are HE7OS9G7yeu-00381-00083933-00084131 going to look like is through this HE7OS9G7yeu-00382-00084132-00084437 little eye icon here this is the new 6.2 HE7OS9G7yeu-00383-00084438-00084785 style book so go ahead and click that HE7OS9G7yeu-00384-00084786-00084905 button HE7OS9G7yeu-00385-00084906-00085073 and you're going to be taking to a page HE7OS9G7yeu-00386-00085074-00085415 that looks like this and this style book HE7OS9G7yeu-00387-00085416-00085631 is a representation of every single HE7OS9G7yeu-00388-00085632-00085949 block that your website can be built HE7OS9G7yeu-00389-00085950-00086141 with just out of the box so you can add HE7OS9G7yeu-00390-00086142-00086405 blocks to your WordPress website with HE7OS9G7yeu-00391-00086406-00086561 plugins but the ones that come standard HE7OS9G7yeu-00392-00086562-00086771 this is where you find them and it's HE7OS9G7yeu-00393-00086772-00087155 organized in your text in your media so HE7OS9G7yeu-00394-00087156-00087461 images videos things like that uh you HE7OS9G7yeu-00395-00087462-00087635 also have your design tools over here so HE7OS9G7yeu-00396-00087636-00087832 you can figure out hey what's what are HE7OS9G7yeu-00397-00087833-00087982 your buttons going to look like HE7OS9G7yeu-00398-00087983-00088181 um what might Collins look like it HE7OS9G7yeu-00399-00088182-00088426 allows you to see what you're doing as HE7OS9G7yeu-00400-00088427-00088703 you're doing it you also have widgets HE7OS9G7yeu-00401-00088704-00088991 so like your calendars and you also have HE7OS9G7yeu-00402-00088992-00089176 themes so this is things like what your HE7OS9G7yeu-00403-00089177-00089321 navigation will look like what your site HE7OS9G7yeu-00404-00089322-00089561 logo will look like what the title is um HE7OS9G7yeu-00405-00089562-00089699 if you have a tagline What that'll look HE7OS9G7yeu-00406-00089700-00089938 like so you can see very very quickly HE7OS9G7yeu-00407-00089939-00090209 the changes that we're about to make HE7OS9G7yeu-00408-00090210-00090503 so if you're using the 2023 block theme HE7OS9G7yeu-00409-00090504-00090682 uh there's this button here called HE7OS9G7yeu-00410-00090683-00091031 browse styles styles HE7OS9G7yeu-00411-00091032-00091306 are not part of the style book they came HE7OS9G7yeu-00412-00091307-00091547 out with 6.1 not all block themes offer HE7OS9G7yeu-00413-00091548-00091853 this but if they do you may have several HE7OS9G7yeu-00414-00091854-00092062 different color variations to choose HE7OS9G7yeu-00415-00092063-00092291 from so I'm going to show you what HE7OS9G7yeu-00416-00092292-00092447 happens to every single block just by HE7OS9G7yeu-00417-00092448-00092699 choosing a different HE7OS9G7yeu-00418-00092700-00092831 um HE7OS9G7yeu-00419-00092832-00093017 a different style and you can do the HE7OS9G7yeu-00420-00093018-00093199 same thing as well if you would like HE7OS9G7yeu-00421-00093200-00093491 so you'll notice that my text has gone HE7OS9G7yeu-00422-00093492-00093700 from black to white and the background HE7OS9G7yeu-00423-00093701-00093947 has gone from white to black HE7OS9G7yeu-00424-00093948-00094103 you can see that there is a color HE7OS9G7yeu-00425-00094104-00094282 overlay that has been automatically HE7OS9G7yeu-00426-00094283-00094673 applied to every image in here HE7OS9G7yeu-00427-00094674-00094985 um you can see that in under design my HE7OS9G7yeu-00428-00094986-00095165 buttons have completely changed colors HE7OS9G7yeu-00429-00095166-00095603 so this is a very very quick way to see HE7OS9G7yeu-00430-00095604-00095843 kind of what you're doing so let's say HE7OS9G7yeu-00431-00095844-00096041 that your theme doesn't offer this let's HE7OS9G7yeu-00432-00096042-00096221 or that you want to have like a lot more HE7OS9G7yeu-00433-00096222-00096425 control right HE7OS9G7yeu-00434-00096426-00096575 um I'm gonna pick HE7OS9G7yeu-00435-00096576-00096731 I'm gonna pick this one this looks HE7OS9G7yeu-00436-00096732-00096868 really nice HE7OS9G7yeu-00437-00096869-00097150 and the way that you can edit it so that HE7OS9G7yeu-00438-00097151-00097325 all of your headings look a certain way HE7OS9G7yeu-00439-00097326-00097565 your paragraphs Etc it's going to be HE7OS9G7yeu-00440-00097566-00097829 through your Global Styles here so this HE7OS9G7yeu-00441-00097830-00097985 allows you to design ones that have HE7OS9G7yeu-00442-00097986-00098171 confidence that whatever you write if HE7OS9G7yeu-00443-00098172-00098309 you're writing a post if you're writing HE7OS9G7yeu-00444-00098310-00098626 a page your choices will automatically HE7OS9G7yeu-00445-00098627-00098891 be applied there which saves you so much HE7OS9G7yeu-00446-00098892-00099029 time HE7OS9G7yeu-00447-00099030-00099179 so you can explore a lot of these HE7OS9G7yeu-00448-00099180-00099450 options here so for example typography HE7OS9G7yeu-00449-00099451-00099731 you can change your HE7OS9G7yeu-00450-00099732-00100073 size a few clicks of a button there HE7OS9G7yeu-00451-00100074-00100288 um you can change your fonts different HE7OS9G7yeu-00452-00100289-00100529 themes offer different fonts HE7OS9G7yeu-00453-00100530-00100744 um but you can also use plugins as well HE7OS9G7yeu-00454-00100745-00101188 to insert a couple more but now you can HE7OS9G7yeu-00455-00101189-00101465 see how this change has been applied to HE7OS9G7yeu-00456-00101466-00101776 my entire website so the text under my HE7OS9G7yeu-00457-00101777-00102076 list is the same text as HE7OS9G7yeu-00458-00102077-00102287 um is in a paragraph is the same text HE7OS9G7yeu-00459-00102288-00102521 that's in a heading HE7OS9G7yeu-00460-00102522-00102725 um you also have a lot of control over HE7OS9G7yeu-00461-00102726-00102916 of course the colors in your website so HE7OS9G7yeu-00462-00102917-00103073 I could change my background from this HE7OS9G7yeu-00463-00103074-00103294 dark black to maybe I don't know a dark HE7OS9G7yeu-00464-00103295-00103378 blue HE7OS9G7yeu-00465-00103379-00103678 just with a quick click of a button and HE7OS9G7yeu-00466-00103679-00103877 see how that change applies to HE7OS9G7yeu-00467-00103878-00104056 everything and I think the thing that I HE7OS9G7yeu-00468-00104057-00104236 like the most about this is because I HE7OS9G7yeu-00469-00104238-00104404 can go through and I can see what is HE7OS9G7yeu-00470-00104405-00104818 going to look like what before I do it HE7OS9G7yeu-00471-00104819-00105208 um I can check and make sure hey is my HE7OS9G7yeu-00472-00105209-00105527 contrast bright enough is this HE7OS9G7yeu-00473-00105528-00105778 accessible so for example HE7OS9G7yeu-00474-00105779-00105965 um this calendar I've noticed uh with HE7OS9G7yeu-00475-00105966-00106127 this particular style variation like HE7OS9G7yeu-00476-00106128-00106378 that does not have great contrast so I HE7OS9G7yeu-00477-00106379-00106577 also have the ability to go in block by HE7OS9G7yeu-00478-00106578-00106913 block now before it was 6.1 in order to HE7OS9G7yeu-00479-00106914-00107081 figure out like where do you even design HE7OS9G7yeu-00480-00107082-00107308 where do you click the buttons to make HE7OS9G7yeu-00481-00107309-00107495 the calendar change stuff you used to do HE7OS9G7yeu-00482-00107496-00107728 that through Styles and you still can HE7OS9G7yeu-00483-00107729-00107921 and you would do that by you know HE7OS9G7yeu-00484-00107922-00108095 heading to your Global Styles and HE7OS9G7yeu-00485-00108096-00108425 clicking on blocks 6.2 allows you to HE7OS9G7yeu-00486-00108426-00108563 just click on it HE7OS9G7yeu-00487-00108564-00108863 and voila I am now looking specifically HE7OS9G7yeu-00488-00108864-00109121 at the calendar block so let's say that HE7OS9G7yeu-00489-00109122-00109252 I want to make this more accessible HE7OS9G7yeu-00490-00109253-00109451 right because having strong contrast is HE7OS9G7yeu-00491-00109452-00109607 so important HE7OS9G7yeu-00492-00109608-00109810 um I can say you know I don't really HE7OS9G7yeu-00493-00109811-00109966 like the background of this what happens HE7OS9G7yeu-00494-00109967-00110201 if I make this I don't know more neutral HE7OS9G7yeu-00495-00110202-00110525 background okay now everybody can see HE7OS9G7yeu-00496-00110526-00110699 the um HE7OS9G7yeu-00497-00110700-00110897 the writing but it's still like it's HE7OS9G7yeu-00498-00110898-00111089 pretty faint so I'm just going to HE7OS9G7yeu-00499-00111090-00111310 experiment with this a little bit and HE7OS9G7yeu-00500-00111311-00111604 just see what I can do here to make ah HE7OS9G7yeu-00501-00111605-00111827 there we go now I've got a dark black HE7OS9G7yeu-00502-00111828-00112036 background and bright white text now HE7OS9G7yeu-00503-00112038-00112234 this is accessible and I was able to see HE7OS9G7yeu-00504-00112235-00112408 that without even having to add a HE7OS9G7yeu-00505-00112409-00112745 calendar to my website so it's really HE7OS9G7yeu-00506-00112746-00112978 really powerful here HE7OS9G7yeu-00507-00112979-00113254 um yeah so what this means is that not HE7OS9G7yeu-00508-00113255-00113531 only can you stylize HE7OS9G7yeu-00509-00113532-00113699 um your website on a global scale HE7OS9G7yeu-00510-00113700-00113878 changing all of your colors with a click HE7OS9G7yeu-00511-00113879-00114136 of a button you also have the option to HE7OS9G7yeu-00512-00114138-00114425 work on specific blocks as well HE7OS9G7yeu-00513-00114426-00114707 so let's say that I'm writing making a HE7OS9G7yeu-00514-00114708-00114881 writer's website HE7OS9G7yeu-00515-00114882-00115049 um and I know that I want my quotes HE7OS9G7yeu-00516-00115050-00115289 because I'm a writer to always Pop I HE7OS9G7yeu-00517-00115290-00115493 want it to be a little different than my HE7OS9G7yeu-00518-00115494-00115745 lists than my I can scroll up in my HE7OS9G7yeu-00519-00115746-00115895 headings than my general text my HE7OS9G7yeu-00520-00115896-00116033 paragraph text HE7OS9G7yeu-00521-00116033-00116308 I can click on this it will bring me to HE7OS9G7yeu-00522-00116309-00116560 that specific quote and now I can adjust HE7OS9G7yeu-00523-00116561-00116860 the typography so I'm going to make it HE7OS9G7yeu-00524-00116861-00117028 super large HE7OS9G7yeu-00525-00117029-00117239 um I think I want to make it I don't HE7OS9G7yeu-00526-00117240-00117360 know HE7OS9G7yeu-00527-00117361-00117634 italic oh now we're going somewhere HE7OS9G7yeu-00528-00117635-00117802 right I can even change the color right HE7OS9G7yeu-00529-00117803-00118121 all of that I can do without using any HE7OS9G7yeu-00530-00118122-00118402 code which is a huge departure from HE7OS9G7yeu-00531-00118403-00118565 classic themes which required you to HE7OS9G7yeu-00532-00118566-00118840 know CSS so it's really exciting HE7OS9G7yeu-00533-00118841-00119033 but now this is something that I learned HE7OS9G7yeu-00534-00119033-00119227 the hard way that I'm going to show you HE7OS9G7yeu-00535-00119228-00119621 in changing this quote block here HE7OS9G7yeu-00536-00119622-00119783 um anything that I do to the rest of the HE7OS9G7yeu-00537-00119783-00120034 text will not be applied to this quote HE7OS9G7yeu-00538-00120035-00120184 block because I've styled it HE7OS9G7yeu-00539-00120185-00120407 individually so let me show you what I HE7OS9G7yeu-00540-00120408-00120581 mean by that so I'm going to head back HE7OS9G7yeu-00541-00120582-00120766 out so I was in typography of the quote HE7OS9G7yeu-00542-00120767-00120899 I'm going to click this arrow in the HE7OS9G7yeu-00543-00120900-00121019 right hand corner I'm going to get out HE7OS9G7yeu-00544-00121020-00121175 of blocks I'm going to head to my HE7OS9G7yeu-00545-00121176-00121433 typography settings and I am going to HE7OS9G7yeu-00546-00121433-00121708 change my text to a different font HE7OS9G7yeu-00547-00121709-00121852 if you're going to notice that my list HE7OS9G7yeu-00548-00121853-00122069 up here changes but my quote block does HE7OS9G7yeu-00549-00122070-00122266 not so HE7OS9G7yeu-00550-00122267-00122483 oh it did oh it's because I didn't set HE7OS9G7yeu-00551-00122483-00122602 the font HE7OS9G7yeu-00552-00122603-00123052 okay hold on the size should not change HE7OS9G7yeu-00553-00123053-00123328 so notice okay so because I didn't set HE7OS9G7yeu-00554-00123329-00123502 the font the font was changing but HE7OS9G7yeu-00555-00123503-00123713 because I sent the size and the italics HE7OS9G7yeu-00556-00123714-00123886 here by changing the font size HE7OS9G7yeu-00557-00123888-00124210 everywhere else this is not changing so HE7OS9G7yeu-00558-00124211-00124427 as you're designing and you're going HE7OS9G7yeu-00559-00124428-00124690 block by block really consider if you HE7OS9G7yeu-00560-00124691-00125027 want a certain block to stand out HE7OS9G7yeu-00561-00125028-00125195 um and just know that you're you may HE7OS9G7yeu-00562-00125196-00125425 have to go back and unstyle it HE7OS9G7yeu-00563-00125426-00125639 going forward HE7OS9G7yeu-00564-00125640-00125854 yeah HE7OS9G7yeu-00565-00125855-00125993 um great question in the chat someone HE7OS9G7yeu-00566-00125994-00126190 said hey is it possible to export or HE7OS9G7yeu-00567-00126191-00126478 import all the custom settings HE7OS9G7yeu-00568-00126479-00126713 um yeah actually so let's say that I've HE7OS9G7yeu-00569-00126714-00126983 styled this um and I wanted to make it HE7OS9G7yeu-00570-00126983-00127223 so that uh these were the defaults so HE7OS9G7yeu-00571-00127224-00127402 that if a client were to install this HE7OS9G7yeu-00572-00127403-00127552 website HE7OS9G7yeu-00573-00127553-00127733 um they they could do that and they they HE7OS9G7yeu-00574-00127733-00127877 you wouldn't see that this was a HE7OS9G7yeu-00575-00127878-00127966 preference like it would just HE7OS9G7yeu-00576-00127967-00128152 automatically be there there is an HE7OS9G7yeu-00577-00128153-00128315 export option up here HE7OS9G7yeu-00578-00128316-00128519 that you can use and when you export it HE7OS9G7yeu-00579-00128520-00128728 all of the choices that I just made here HE7OS9G7yeu-00580-00128729-00129040 become hard coded into the files HE7OS9G7yeu-00581-00129041-00129340 theme.json it codes it for you HE7OS9G7yeu-00582-00129341-00129490 um there is a that's a really Advanced HE7OS9G7yeu-00583-00129491-00129697 thing that you might do there is a HE7OS9G7yeu-00584-00129698-00129893 learn.wordpress.org tutorial that will HE7OS9G7yeu-00585-00129894-00130295 cover that in depth what is it it is HE7OS9G7yeu-00586-00130296-00130475 you can also do the same process with HE7OS9G7yeu-00587-00130476-00130684 create block theme HE7OS9G7yeu-00588-00130685-00130919 it allows you to manage fonts and it HE7OS9G7yeu-00589-00130920-00131147 also allows you to develop HE7OS9G7yeu-00590-00131148-00131440 uh block themes without any coding as HE7OS9G7yeu-00591-00131441-00131561 well HE7OS9G7yeu-00592-00131562-00131813 yeah so there's this there's a link to HE7OS9G7yeu-00593-00131814-00132107 the uh not the tutorial the HE7OS9G7yeu-00594-00132108-00132245 the plug-in itself which is really HE7OS9G7yeu-00595-00132246-00132509 helpful and the way to use it here so HE7OS9G7yeu-00596-00132510-00132731 that is definitely a very Advanced thing HE7OS9G7yeu-00597-00132732-00132928 for those of you who are new don't worry HE7OS9G7yeu-00598-00132929-00133127 about exporting it you can just make HE7OS9G7yeu-00599-00133128-00133513 whatever changes you would like HE7OS9G7yeu-00600-00133514-00133709 two HE7OS9G7yeu-00601-00133710-00133990 where is it two to my templates here and HE7OS9G7yeu-00602-00133991-00134171 it will stay HE7OS9G7yeu-00603-00134172-00134339 um so now I really like the way this HE7OS9G7yeu-00604-00134340-00134513 looks this is really pretty looks like a HE7OS9G7yeu-00605-00134514-00134740 great writer's website if I decide that HE7OS9G7yeu-00606-00134741-00134897 I want to go and write some some post HE7OS9G7yeu-00607-00134898-00135035 content HE7OS9G7yeu-00608-00135036-00135227 here I go HE7OS9G7yeu-00609-00135228-00135466 the color is right the color is right HE7OS9G7yeu-00610-00135467-00135713 the fonts are the same HE7OS9G7yeu-00611-00135714-00136073 my text size was pre-determined HE7OS9G7yeu-00612-00136074-00136313 hooray you don't have to design it on HE7OS9G7yeu-00613-00136314-00136564 every single page which I don't know I HE7OS9G7yeu-00614-00136565-00136757 think is so exciting uh just because of HE7OS9G7yeu-00615-00136758-00136978 how hard this used to be once upon a HE7OS9G7yeu-00616-00136979-00137219 time like 20 years ago they just keep HE7OS9G7yeu-00617-00137220-00137416 making better changes anyway HE7OS9G7yeu-00618-00137417-00137597 so that's the first thing that we HE7OS9G7yeu-00619-00137598-00137831 recommend is by using that style book so HE7OS9G7yeu-00620-00137832-00137975 when you first get started head to HE7OS9G7yeu-00621-00137976-00138095 appearance HE7OS9G7yeu-00622-00138096-00138299 editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00623-00138300-00138587 click into your site HE7OS9G7yeu-00624-00138588-00138839 and then click on the Styles button and HE7OS9G7yeu-00625-00138840-00138964 then rather than just clicking buttons HE7OS9G7yeu-00626-00138965-00139271 over here use this style book button so HE7OS9G7yeu-00627-00139272-00139439 that you can see what your blocks will HE7OS9G7yeu-00628-00139440-00139745 look like before you use them HE7OS9G7yeu-00629-00139746-00139985 okay pausing to see if there were any HE7OS9G7yeu-00630-00139986-00140302 questions I don't think so any HE7OS9G7yeu-00631-00140303-00141635 any thoughts before we move on HE7OS9G7yeu-00632-00141636-00141790 all right let's move on to the next HE7OS9G7yeu-00633-00141791-00142097 thing so one thing that I a huge mistake HE7OS9G7yeu-00634-00142098-00142313 that I made in a blog design of my own HE7OS9G7yeu-00635-00142314-00142643 was uh in posts and Pages HE7OS9G7yeu-00636-00142644-00142804 um there's an option that does something HE7OS9G7yeu-00637-00142805-00142978 similar known as settings I'm going to HE7OS9G7yeu-00638-00142979-00143087 show you where those are and what those HE7OS9G7yeu-00639-00143088-00143351 look like and it can be really tempting HE7OS9G7yeu-00640-00143352-00143597 to use settings instead of the global HE7OS9G7yeu-00641-00143598-00143752 Styles HE7OS9G7yeu-00642-00143753-00144040 um I recommend not doing that unless you HE7OS9G7yeu-00643-00144041-00144245 only want that to apply to just that one HE7OS9G7yeu-00644-00144246-00144364 page and let me show you what I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-00645-00144365-00144635 talking about here HE7OS9G7yeu-00646-00144636-00144952 um so I'm gonna head out of let me close HE7OS9G7yeu-00647-00144953-00145121 some of these so I don't get lost so I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-00648-00145122-00145331 gonna head to the content portion of my HE7OS9G7yeu-00649-00145332-00145559 website so my posts my pages and I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-00650-00145560-00145745 going to click add new HE7OS9G7yeu-00651-00145746-00146051 so imagine that I want a white box and HE7OS9G7yeu-00652-00146052-00146285 black text around HE7OS9G7yeu-00653-00146286-00146554 every page I have right that kind of HE7OS9G7yeu-00654-00146555-00146764 that looks kind of fun so I'm going to HE7OS9G7yeu-00655-00146765-00146914 start writing HE7OS9G7yeu-00656-00146915-00147347 if you're in the post or page editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00657-00147348-00147599 um there is a very very similar button HE7OS9G7yeu-00658-00147600-00147802 and it looks like this and you'll notice HE7OS9G7yeu-00659-00147803-00148031 that it says settings HE7OS9G7yeu-00660-00148032-00148247 you'll also notice that there are color HE7OS9G7yeu-00661-00148248-00148511 options here in settings so I can say HE7OS9G7yeu-00662-00148512-00148661 hey I'm going to change my background HE7OS9G7yeu-00663-00148662-00148811 I'm going to make it white HE7OS9G7yeu-00664-00148812-00149027 and I'm going to make my text black and HE7OS9G7yeu-00665-00149028-00149261 I want this link to be blue HE7OS9G7yeu-00666-00149262-00149404 like if I decide to write a link it'll HE7OS9G7yeu-00667-00149405-00149525 be blue HE7OS9G7yeu-00668-00149526-00149771 so I can publish that and you can see HE7OS9G7yeu-00669-00149772-00150131 this page it displays normally right HE7OS9G7yeu-00670-00150132-00150287 um but let's say that I wanted that on HE7OS9G7yeu-00671-00150288-00150604 every single page that I was doing or HE7OS9G7yeu-00672-00150605-00150743 conversely let's say that I didn't want HE7OS9G7yeu-00673-00150744-00150923 that anymore I thought that I was doing HE7OS9G7yeu-00674-00150924-00151114 this I needed to go back and I wanted to HE7OS9G7yeu-00675-00151115-00151271 make my text look the way that it does HE7OS9G7yeu-00676-00151272-00151451 everywhere else HE7OS9G7yeu-00677-00151452-00151702 um those settings can interfere HE7OS9G7yeu-00678-00151703-00151925 so HE7OS9G7yeu-00679-00151926-00152057 I'm trying to figure out how to explain HE7OS9G7yeu-00680-00152058-00152213 this just a touch better HE7OS9G7yeu-00681-00152214-00152345 um HE7OS9G7yeu-00682-00152346-00152633 basically it will only if you use your HE7OS9G7yeu-00683-00152634-00152902 settings under edit page which is HE7OS9G7yeu-00684-00152903-00153113 separate then edit site this is editing HE7OS9G7yeu-00685-00153114-00153293 your content what you're writing this is HE7OS9G7yeu-00686-00153294-00153533 editing the look and feel of your HE7OS9G7yeu-00687-00153534-00153797 website this is only going to appear on HE7OS9G7yeu-00688-00153798-00154073 this page HE7OS9G7yeu-00689-00154074-00154313 so that can be good it can be useful to HE7OS9G7yeu-00690-00154314-00154523 know but if I wanna if I use this on a HE7OS9G7yeu-00691-00154524-00154823 lot of different pages HE7OS9G7yeu-00692-00154824-00155051 um it's probably a better idea to head HE7OS9G7yeu-00693-00155052-00155290 to your site editor and style that in HE7OS9G7yeu-00694-00155291-00155561 global steps so you're only styling this HE7OS9G7yeu-00695-00155562-00155699 block right here HE7OS9G7yeu-00696-00155700-00155926 you're not styling anything else so if HE7OS9G7yeu-00697-00155927-00156137 you wanted to make big sweeping changes HE7OS9G7yeu-00698-00156138-00156431 under your appearance and editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00699-00156432-00156689 um you'll notice that that block won't HE7OS9G7yeu-00700-00156690-00156826 change so let me show you what I mean by HE7OS9G7yeu-00701-00156827-00156976 that so I'm going to click in here HE7OS9G7yeu-00702-00156977-00157133 I'm just going to pick a different style HE7OS9G7yeu-00703-00157134-00157421 variation just super fast HE7OS9G7yeu-00704-00157422-00157637 make it very very obvious that this has HE7OS9G7yeu-00705-00157638-00157799 changed HE7OS9G7yeu-00706-00157800-00158663 I now head back to that page HE7OS9G7yeu-00707-00158664-00159095 okay so it looks like the background uh HE7OS9G7yeu-00708-00159096-00159293 changed but the text was pushed through HE7OS9G7yeu-00709-00159294-00159526 that that was unexpected but you can see HE7OS9G7yeu-00710-00159527-00159701 that this caused a problem and it's HE7OS9G7yeu-00711-00159702-00159928 because I use this the settings there so HE7OS9G7yeu-00712-00159929-00160073 if you have something weird like this HE7OS9G7yeu-00713-00160074-00160247 that happens that's one of the places HE7OS9G7yeu-00714-00160248-00160625 where that that can be the cause so HE7OS9G7yeu-00715-00160626-00160835 just just be aware of that keep that in HE7OS9G7yeu-00716-00160836-00160973 mind and if I want to fix it and just HE7OS9G7yeu-00717-00160974-00161152 clear it back to the defaults I click on HE7OS9G7yeu-00718-00161153-00161369 edit page HE7OS9G7yeu-00719-00161370-00161651 I use this handy dandy list view here if HE7OS9G7yeu-00720-00161652-00161837 you are brand new this list view is one HE7OS9G7yeu-00721-00161838-00161969 of the best tools because it lets you HE7OS9G7yeu-00722-00161970-00162101 figure out exactly what you're working HE7OS9G7yeu-00723-00162102-00162407 with and I can just go through and HE7OS9G7yeu-00724-00162408-00162611 deselect HE7OS9G7yeu-00725-00162612-00162947 so clicking the same button removes The HE7OS9G7yeu-00726-00162948-00163181 Styling back to the default so now if I HE7OS9G7yeu-00727-00163182-00163354 go back to my site editor I can make the HE7OS9G7yeu-00728-00163355-00163571 changes that I would like and have it HE7OS9G7yeu-00729-00163572-00163889 also apply to this page as well so that HE7OS9G7yeu-00730-00163890-00164111 was one gotcha that I had that I hope HE7OS9G7yeu-00731-00164112-00164321 this will save you from as you are HE7OS9G7yeu-00732-00164322-00164509 designing your website HE7OS9G7yeu-00733-00164510-00164669 okay HE7OS9G7yeu-00734-00164670-00164987 I don't see any questions so let's keep HE7OS9G7yeu-00735-00164988-00165269 going HE7OS9G7yeu-00736-00165270-00165401 um the next thing that you can do is HE7OS9G7yeu-00737-00165402-00165647 you're styling your website and or blog HE7OS9G7yeu-00738-00165648-00165863 is to create your blog frame with HE7OS9G7yeu-00739-00165864-00166235 pictures so think back to the um HE7OS9G7yeu-00740-00166236-00166601 the picture frame analogy we want to get HE7OS9G7yeu-00741-00166602-00166787 started fast right HE7OS9G7yeu-00742-00166788-00166954 um I like to design things from scratch HE7OS9G7yeu-00743-00166955-00167140 which is a terrible idea for me because HE7OS9G7yeu-00744-00167141-00167375 I am not a designer patterns help me do HE7OS9G7yeu-00745-00167376-00167795 this very very quickly so let's say that HE7OS9G7yeu-00746-00167796-00168059 you have styled your blog here so HE7OS9G7yeu-00747-00168060-00168354 appearance HE7OS9G7yeu-00748-00168355-00168623 I have to show you that later HE7OS9G7yeu-00749-00168624-00168821 let's say that you're done styling HE7OS9G7yeu-00750-00168822-00168983 appearance HE7OS9G7yeu-00751-00168984-00169181 editor we're back in our site editor HE7OS9G7yeu-00752-00169182-00169343 here HE7OS9G7yeu-00753-00169344-00169607 and I'm just gonna I'm gonna go back to HE7OS9G7yeu-00754-00169608-00169799 the other style that we had because I HE7OS9G7yeu-00755-00169800-00169985 liked it HE7OS9G7yeu-00756-00169986-00170290 there we go we're all done totally HE7OS9G7yeu-00757-00170291-00170602 styled ready to go HE7OS9G7yeu-00758-00170603-00170711 um the first thing that you're going to HE7OS9G7yeu-00759-00170712-00170939 want to do is probably create a header HE7OS9G7yeu-00760-00170940-00171125 right what appears at the very top of HE7OS9G7yeu-00761-00171126-00171509 your website so it can be tempting to do HE7OS9G7yeu-00762-00171510-00171640 this in here HE7OS9G7yeu-00763-00171641-00171761 um there's a header block you will HE7OS9G7yeu-00764-00171762-00172007 notice that it is purple your footer HE7OS9G7yeu-00765-00172008-00172240 also is and that is because it is a HE7OS9G7yeu-00766-00172241-00172414 template part so this is a new thing HE7OS9G7yeu-00767-00172415-00172654 that's coming out with 6.2 they have HE7OS9G7yeu-00768-00172655-00172828 changed this so that you can know that HE7OS9G7yeu-00769-00172829-00172990 something is a template part basically HE7OS9G7yeu-00770-00172991-00173249 the outer frame of your website that HE7OS9G7yeu-00771-00173250-00173447 will always be there HE7OS9G7yeu-00772-00173448-00173633 um just just keep that in mind so you HE7OS9G7yeu-00773-00173634-00173873 can edit this from here but the thing to HE7OS9G7yeu-00774-00173874-00174028 know about Temple Parts especially if HE7OS9G7yeu-00775-00174029-00174173 you're new is that if you make a change HE7OS9G7yeu-00776-00174174-00174473 here any other template that uses this HE7OS9G7yeu-00777-00174474-00174640 header will also have that change made HE7OS9G7yeu-00778-00174641-00174857 to it so let me show you what what I HE7OS9G7yeu-00779-00174858-00175133 mean by that so your blog is made up of HE7OS9G7yeu-00780-00175134-00175331 multiple templates so basically multiple HE7OS9G7yeu-00781-00175332-00175559 layouts of how your content is displayed HE7OS9G7yeu-00782-00175560-00175811 so you'll notice I've got a 404 page oh HE7OS9G7yeu-00783-00175812-00176069 no my my website doesn't exist HE7OS9G7yeu-00784-00176070-00176290 uh there's a header up here and there's HE7OS9G7yeu-00785-00176291-00176501 a footer down there there's that frame HE7OS9G7yeu-00786-00176502-00176752 it is always there HE7OS9G7yeu-00787-00176753-00176909 um you'll see this across a lot of HE7OS9G7yeu-00788-00176910-00177257 things so my page page there's my header HE7OS9G7yeu-00789-00177258-00177473 scroll to the bottom there's my footer HE7OS9G7yeu-00790-00177474-00177695 so a best practice for you as you're HE7OS9G7yeu-00791-00177696-00177959 designing for the first time is to HE7OS9G7yeu-00792-00177960-00178343 actually head over to template parts so HE7OS9G7yeu-00793-00178344-00178576 this is a button that appears now is 6.2 HE7OS9G7yeu-00794-00178577-00178804 as soon as you enter the site editor if HE7OS9G7yeu-00795-00178805-00179104 you click this you will see a list here HE7OS9G7yeu-00796-00179105-00179326 of different template Parts all themes HE7OS9G7yeu-00797-00179327-00179488 offer different template Parts you will HE7OS9G7yeu-00798-00179489-00179747 usually find at least one header which HE7OS9G7yeu-00799-00179748-00179890 means you can use more than one if you HE7OS9G7yeu-00800-00179891-00180076 want but you don't have to and you will HE7OS9G7yeu-00801-00180077-00180359 usually see a footer as well so I HE7OS9G7yeu-00802-00180360-00180521 recommend that you head to your header HE7OS9G7yeu-00803-00180522-00180713 first and just pop the first part of HE7OS9G7yeu-00804-00180714-00180935 that frame on so once you're in here HE7OS9G7yeu-00805-00180936-00181085 make sure that you click on it so that HE7OS9G7yeu-00806-00181086-00181307 you can start making changes HE7OS9G7yeu-00807-00181308-00181523 oh I'm sorry huh that's different HE7OS9G7yeu-00808-00181524-00181745 apparently you need to click this pencil HE7OS9G7yeu-00809-00181746-00182026 button to edit it when you move between HE7OS9G7yeu-00810-00182027-00182188 template parts and I think that's just HE7OS9G7yeu-00811-00182189-00182351 to make sure that you're very aware hey HE7OS9G7yeu-00812-00182352-00182657 I am editing the very top part of my HE7OS9G7yeu-00813-00182658-00182945 website so I'm going to click that HE7OS9G7yeu-00814-00182946-00183119 so right now I'm going to use my list HE7OS9G7yeu-00815-00183120-00183316 view again if you're brand new use your HE7OS9G7yeu-00816-00183317-00183557 list view oh it makes it so much easier HE7OS9G7yeu-00817-00183558-00183719 um it looks like this is grouped HE7OS9G7yeu-00818-00183720-00183863 together online HE7OS9G7yeu-00819-00183864-00184090 these little arrows allow you to expand HE7OS9G7yeu-00820-00184091-00184349 this out so you can see the full list of HE7OS9G7yeu-00821-00184350-00184564 blocks that you are using to build your HE7OS9G7yeu-00822-00184565-00184714 website so right now it's got a site HE7OS9G7yeu-00823-00184715-00184883 title it's got a page list with HE7OS9G7yeu-00824-00184884-00185128 navigation and this row means that it's HE7OS9G7yeu-00825-00185129-00185321 side by side HE7OS9G7yeu-00826-00185322-00185585 um at least on full computers HE7OS9G7yeu-00827-00185586-00185771 uh one thing that you'll notice is as HE7OS9G7yeu-00828-00185772-00185987 the screen size changes HE7OS9G7yeu-00829-00185988-00186076 um HE7OS9G7yeu-00830-00186077-00186407 it Stacks so this kind of shows you like HE7OS9G7yeu-00831-00186408-00186671 what your mobile view will look like as HE7OS9G7yeu-00832-00186672-00186869 well so this is a new feature as well to HE7OS9G7yeu-00833-00186870-00187169 6.2 you see this little bar here this HE7OS9G7yeu-00834-00187170-00187601 allows me to expand my website to a full HE7OS9G7yeu-00835-00187602-00187883 width if I would like it also allows me HE7OS9G7yeu-00836-00187884-00188081 to shrink it down so I can see what this HE7OS9G7yeu-00837-00188082-00188207 will look like on people's mobile HE7OS9G7yeu-00838-00188208-00188416 websites which is really good news HE7OS9G7yeu-00839-00188417-00188602 because it means that you can really see HE7OS9G7yeu-00840-00188603-00189119 very quickly how this will look HE7OS9G7yeu-00841-00189120-00189304 um yeah so this is a pretty simple HE7OS9G7yeu-00842-00189305-00189538 header um if you're like me you probably HE7OS9G7yeu-00843-00189539-00189749 want something like real fancy maybe not HE7OS9G7yeu-00844-00189750-00189940 but you have a lot of options here so HE7OS9G7yeu-00845-00189941-00190102 one thing that you can do if you're HE7OS9G7yeu-00846-00190103-00190319 adventurous um using your list view I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-00847-00190320-00190504 going to click these three dots here HE7OS9G7yeu-00848-00190505-00190775 and I'm going to remove this whole group HE7OS9G7yeu-00849-00190776-00190973 seems real scary one thing that you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-00850-00190974-00191176 want to know if you're new is that you HE7OS9G7yeu-00851-00191177-00191381 can undo things HE7OS9G7yeu-00852-00191382-00191590 with a few clicks of a button that undo HE7OS9G7yeu-00853-00191591-00191819 button is right here HE7OS9G7yeu-00854-00191820-00191981 and Sean made the point the list view is HE7OS9G7yeu-00855-00191982-00192125 helpful even if you are not brand new HE7OS9G7yeu-00856-00192126-00192364 yes the list view is the way that I I HE7OS9G7yeu-00857-00192365-00192557 keep what I'm doing straight HE7OS9G7yeu-00858-00192558-00192766 so I've got a paragraph block here okay HE7OS9G7yeu-00859-00192767-00192964 how do I add something new HE7OS9G7yeu-00860-00192965-00193133 we're going to go to our inserter button HE7OS9G7yeu-00861-00193134-00193252 and those of you who have been around HE7OS9G7yeu-00862-00193253-00193390 WordPress for a while are going to see HE7OS9G7yeu-00863-00193391-00193613 some new stuff here you'll notice that HE7OS9G7yeu-00864-00193614-00193828 we have blocks that we can build with HE7OS9G7yeu-00865-00193829-00194152 we also have patterns and media if HE7OS9G7yeu-00866-00194153-00194266 you're working in your template Parts HE7OS9G7yeu-00867-00194267-00194566 this patterns button uh pulls from HE7OS9G7yeu-00868-00194567-00194885 pre-made patterns that are made from HE7OS9G7yeu-00869-00194886-00195076 designers around WordPress who've HE7OS9G7yeu-00870-00195077-00195221 submitted their work so that you can HE7OS9G7yeu-00871-00195222-00195473 benefit from their design makes it a lot HE7OS9G7yeu-00872-00195474-00195671 easier especially if you're just getting HE7OS9G7yeu-00873-00195672-00195959 started to see kind of what you want so HE7OS9G7yeu-00874-00195960-00196097 I'm going to select this headers button HE7OS9G7yeu-00875-00196098-00196301 because that's what I'm working on and I HE7OS9G7yeu-00876-00196302-00196511 have all of these different options here HE7OS9G7yeu-00877-00196512-00196852 that I can pull from HE7OS9G7yeu-00878-00196853-00197195 um so let's say that HE7OS9G7yeu-00879-00197196-00197452 I like things that are fancy so I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-00880-00197453-00197614 going to grab this one and see what it HE7OS9G7yeu-00881-00197615-00197759 does I'm just going to click it HE7OS9G7yeu-00882-00197760-00197999 and you can see this is now HE7OS9G7yeu-00883-00198000-00198202 automatically applied so it's got this HE7OS9G7yeu-00884-00198203-00198509 nice background image I think that this HE7OS9G7yeu-00885-00198510-00198707 is a page that I wrote yeah that was the HE7OS9G7yeu-00886-00198708-00198904 page that I wrote so this is a HE7OS9G7yeu-00887-00198905-00199151 navigation menu and you'll notice that HE7OS9G7yeu-00888-00199152-00199295 it's hard for me to know exactly what HE7OS9G7yeu-00889-00199296-00199475 I'm looking at because I'm not using my HE7OS9G7yeu-00890-00199476-00199631 list view so let's see what it is that I HE7OS9G7yeu-00891-00199632-00199883 actually put in here HE7OS9G7yeu-00892-00199884-00200111 um this is all expanded out except for HE7OS9G7yeu-00893-00200112-00200464 this row site logo site title HE7OS9G7yeu-00894-00200465-00200675 pageless oh and there's a spacer so it HE7OS9G7yeu-00895-00200676-00200938 looks like oh I can adjust the height of HE7OS9G7yeu-00896-00200939-00201088 this as well HE7OS9G7yeu-00897-00201089-00201281 so I really like this I like that HE7OS9G7yeu-00898-00201282-00201497 background I like I think there must be HE7OS9G7yeu-00899-00201498-00201695 a color overlay there HE7OS9G7yeu-00900-00201696-00201940 to make sure that it's lovely um but I HE7OS9G7yeu-00901-00201941-00202157 can click that to see HE7OS9G7yeu-00902-00202158-00202235 um HE7OS9G7yeu-00903-00202236-00202414 so you'll notice when I clicked it it HE7OS9G7yeu-00904-00202415-00202564 took me to something known as a cover HE7OS9G7yeu-00905-00202565-00202757 block here you're going to be able to HE7OS9G7yeu-00906-00202758-00202978 find different block settings HE7OS9G7yeu-00907-00202979-00203152 um when you click on different things so HE7OS9G7yeu-00908-00203153-00203321 whether you click it on it in here or HE7OS9G7yeu-00909-00203322-00203531 you click on it in your list view you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-00910-00203532-00203740 notice this bar is changing HE7OS9G7yeu-00911-00203741-00204209 so I can change it so that it has green HE7OS9G7yeu-00912-00204210-00204473 and red I can select my own shadows and HE7OS9G7yeu-00913-00204474-00204713 highlights there's a lot that can be HE7OS9G7yeu-00914-00204714-00204958 done with this toolbar HE7OS9G7yeu-00915-00204959-00205151 so the other place that you will find HE7OS9G7yeu-00916-00205152-00205403 different settings for each individual HE7OS9G7yeu-00917-00205404-00205703 block is going to be over here on the HE7OS9G7yeu-00918-00205704-00205960 right under your styles HE7OS9G7yeu-00919-00205961-00206153 you'll also notice that there are some HE7OS9G7yeu-00920-00206154-00206494 settings in here as well HE7OS9G7yeu-00921-00206496-00206638 um and these different block settings HE7OS9G7yeu-00922-00206639-00206873 will appear and give you different HE7OS9G7yeu-00923-00206873-00207005 options HE7OS9G7yeu-00924-00207006-00207214 so HE7OS9G7yeu-00925-00207215-00207401 because I'm working on the very top part HE7OS9G7yeu-00926-00207402-00207557 of my picture frame anything that I do HE7OS9G7yeu-00927-00207558-00207725 here is going to be applied across the HE7OS9G7yeu-00928-00207726-00207994 entire image HE7OS9G7yeu-00929-00207996-00208229 um so someone asks hey can I change the HE7OS9G7yeu-00930-00208230-00208403 background image like can I can I pick HE7OS9G7yeu-00931-00208404-00208642 the background yeah absolutely so this HE7OS9G7yeu-00932-00208644-00208853 is one of the so to do that there's a HE7OS9G7yeu-00933-00208854-00209098 replace button right here HE7OS9G7yeu-00934-00209100-00209327 um you can open your media library if HE7OS9G7yeu-00935-00209328-00209453 you have something in here you can pick HE7OS9G7yeu-00936-00209454-00209621 something or you can upload a file from HE7OS9G7yeu-00937-00209621-00209860 your computer and completely replace it HE7OS9G7yeu-00938-00209861-00210053 and what's really cool about these HE7OS9G7yeu-00939-00210054-00210203 settings for at least the cover block is HE7OS9G7yeu-00940-00210204-00210358 you can choose hey I make this big so HE7OS9G7yeu-00941-00210359-00210496 you can see it HE7OS9G7yeu-00942-00210498-00210827 you can pick where the focal point is HE7OS9G7yeu-00943-00210828-00211031 let me try and up that contrast so that HE7OS9G7yeu-00944-00211032-00211192 it's a little bit brighter HE7OS9G7yeu-00945-00211194-00211546 so you can see how that is changing HE7OS9G7yeu-00946-00211548-00211798 so yes you can definitely change it and HE7OS9G7yeu-00947-00211800-00211973 Captain posted a great Link in there as HE7OS9G7yeu-00948-00211973-00212069 well HE7OS9G7yeu-00949-00212069-00212351 so I'm going to keep this nice and dark HE7OS9G7yeu-00950-00212352-00212560 so that my text can be read HE7OS9G7yeu-00951-00212561-00212831 I'm going to save this head back to my HE7OS9G7yeu-00952-00212832-00212944 templates HE7OS9G7yeu-00953-00212946-00213173 and I do that by clicking on this W icon HE7OS9G7yeu-00954-00213173-00213406 up here this icon can change if you set HE7OS9G7yeu-00955-00213407-00213742 a site uh icon or logo I can't remember HE7OS9G7yeu-00956-00213744-00214001 which it is this W icon will be replaced HE7OS9G7yeu-00957-00214002-00214241 by whatever one you choose so it's this HE7OS9G7yeu-00958-00214242-00214403 top icon and then you can just navigate HE7OS9G7yeu-00959-00214404-00214829 back so these are other template parts HE7OS9G7yeu-00960-00214830-00215081 if you click on templates now let's go HE7OS9G7yeu-00961-00215082-00215284 look at our home page I'm going to edit HE7OS9G7yeu-00962-00215285-00215548 it you can now see that this has HE7OS9G7yeu-00963-00215550-00215908 appeared on this block HE7OS9G7yeu-00964-00215909-00216046 so HE7OS9G7yeu-00965-00216048-00216232 um oh I already made this sticky whoops HE7OS9G7yeu-00966-00216233-00216491 let me fix that really quick y'all I was HE7OS9G7yeu-00967-00216492-00216719 practicing before today's session forgot HE7OS9G7yeu-00968-00216719-00216958 to turn this off HE7OS9G7yeu-00969-00216959-00217355 I'm doing it just a second HE7OS9G7yeu-00970-00217356-00217619 oh what did I do oh did I actually HE7OS9G7yeu-00971-00217619-00217751 figure out the thing that I couldn't do HE7OS9G7yeu-00972-00217752-00218275 earlier HE7OS9G7yeu-00973-00218276-00218627 open the position tab there on the right HE7OS9G7yeu-00974-00218628-00218837 position tab HE7OS9G7yeu-00975-00218838-00218987 if you made it sticky it would be under HE7OS9G7yeu-00976-00218988-00219215 position oops I know oh there it is I HE7OS9G7yeu-00977-00219216-00219401 just missed it yeah yeah okay cool we're HE7OS9G7yeu-00978-00219402-00219598 going to talk about what that is in a HE7OS9G7yeu-00979-00219600-00219737 second HE7OS9G7yeu-00980-00219738-00219982 so this allows you to manipulate that HE7OS9G7yeu-00981-00219983-00220234 and change how things are HE7OS9G7yeu-00982-00220235-00220534 um but now every single uh template that HE7OS9G7yeu-00983-00220535-00220948 uses this that says hey I've got HE7OS9G7yeu-00984-00220950-00221129 now that is not what I wanted to do back HE7OS9G7yeu-00985-00221130-00221375 back I say HE7OS9G7yeu-00986-00221376-00221669 every uh template that you have that has HE7OS9G7yeu-00987-00221669-00221932 a header in it that uses this header HE7OS9G7yeu-00988-00221933-00222106 template part any change I make to it HE7OS9G7yeu-00989-00222107-00222353 will be right there automatically so HE7OS9G7yeu-00990-00222354-00222563 that's really really cool HE7OS9G7yeu-00991-00222564-00222701 um and someone said earlier hey you can HE7OS9G7yeu-00992-00222702-00222923 also just click on it and edit it here HE7OS9G7yeu-00993-00222923-00223223 um yeah you totally can do that as well HE7OS9G7yeu-00994-00223223-00223306 um HE7OS9G7yeu-00995-00223307-00223571 but do know that if you're doing this uh HE7OS9G7yeu-00996-00223571-00223937 this is not just applied to this page HE7OS9G7yeu-00997-00223938-00224075 um HE7OS9G7yeu-00998-00224076-00224225 let me cover block settings that I was HE7OS9G7yeu-00999-00224226-00224339 trying to look at HE7OS9G7yeu-01000-00224340-00224573 they're down here huh they moved HE7OS9G7yeu-01001-00224573-00224753 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01002-00224754-00224927 I want this to be full width that's not HE7OS9G7yeu-01003-00224928-00225017 working I'm going to figure that out HE7OS9G7yeu-01004-00225017-00225256 anyway HE7OS9G7yeu-01005-00225257-00225448 as I say HE7OS9G7yeu-01006-00225450-00225671 oh it will apply everywhere else so if HE7OS9G7yeu-01007-00225671-00225821 you are working within one of these HE7OS9G7yeu-01008-00225821-00226042 purple template parts do you know that HE7OS9G7yeu-01009-00226044-00226258 if it's on another template that change HE7OS9G7yeu-01010-00226259-00226846 will be made as well HE7OS9G7yeu-01011-00226848-00227056 um cool so there's a question about how HE7OS9G7yeu-01012-00227057-00227248 would you control typography of captions HE7OS9G7yeu-01013-00227250-00227573 or is it still via CSS HE7OS9G7yeu-01014-00227573-00227831 what's a good question why is this still HE7OS9G7yeu-01015-00227832-00228017 sticky HE7OS9G7yeu-01016-00228017-00228142 I don't know why that's still sticky HE7OS9G7yeu-01017-00228144-00228401 either way I'll get there in a minute HE7OS9G7yeu-01018-00228402-00228605 it might be group fill with yeah that HE7OS9G7yeu-01019-00228606-00228881 might be it HE7OS9G7yeu-01020-00228882-00229091 maybe so and one thing that you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-01021-00229092-00229241 notice is that HE7OS9G7yeu-01022-00229242-00229403 um this is taking me some trial and HE7OS9G7yeu-01023-00229404-00229619 error too and I think it's really HE7OS9G7yeu-01024-00229619-00229775 important to know that even if you are HE7OS9G7yeu-01025-00229776-00230063 brand new to HE7OS9G7yeu-01026-00230064-00230303 uh or not right even if you are Advanced HE7OS9G7yeu-01027-00230304-00230477 at using Wordpress you're still going to HE7OS9G7yeu-01028-00230478-00230615 want to click around and see if you can HE7OS9G7yeu-01029-00230616-00230789 figure out HE7OS9G7yeu-01030-00230790-00230992 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01031-00230994-00231142 you're still going to click around and HE7OS9G7yeu-01032-00231144-00231448 get used to it HE7OS9G7yeu-01033-00231450-00231641 I think I know what I did here HE7OS9G7yeu-01034-00231642-00231856 I do this in a different way did I is HE7OS9G7yeu-01035-00231857-00232129 this the Sticky Thing hold on HE7OS9G7yeu-01036-00232130-00232355 we always learn things as we do this HE7OS9G7yeu-01037-00232356-00232565 thank you so much for HE7OS9G7yeu-01038-00232566-00232823 there were times when I'm in the group HE7OS9G7yeu-01039-00232823-00233141 there's that advanced no fascinating HE7OS9G7yeu-01040-00233142-00233279 okay I'm going to figure that out in a HE7OS9G7yeu-01041-00233280-00233489 minute but highly recommend you start HE7OS9G7yeu-01042-00233490-00233644 with your header get it looking the way HE7OS9G7yeu-01043-00233646-00233831 that you want it to look and then head HE7OS9G7yeu-01044-00233832-00233987 back to HE7OS9G7yeu-01045-00233988-00234310 your template parts HE7OS9G7yeu-01046-00234311-00234569 and do the same thing with your footer HE7OS9G7yeu-01047-00234569-00234898 and again you can completely just remove HE7OS9G7yeu-01048-00234900-00235156 it and add in a new pattern or you can HE7OS9G7yeu-01049-00235157-00235306 play with all of your different blocks HE7OS9G7yeu-01050-00235307-00235510 using your inserter here HE7OS9G7yeu-01051-00235511-00235684 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01052-00235685-00236081 to uh yeah to frame your picture HE7OS9G7yeu-01053-00236082-00236569 so that would be step two HE7OS9G7yeu-01054-00236569-00236831 and this is our next thing the sticking HE7OS9G7yeu-01055-00236832-00237119 headers so HE7OS9G7yeu-01056-00237119-00237491 um Once Upon a Time HE7OS9G7yeu-01057-00237492-00237719 once upon a time it was not possible HE7OS9G7yeu-01058-00237719-00238079 without CSS or coding to make it so that HE7OS9G7yeu-01059-00238080-00238277 your header HE7OS9G7yeu-01060-00238278-00238594 oh now it's working what HE7OS9G7yeu-01061-00238596-00238801 I think I might have discovered a bug HE7OS9G7yeu-01062-00238802-00239021 you'll notice that this cover block now HE7OS9G7yeu-01063-00239021-00239279 goes all the way across the screen HE7OS9G7yeu-01064-00239280-00239525 um just know that because this is so HE7OS9G7yeu-01065-00239526-00239705 brand new you may discover uh some HE7OS9G7yeu-01066-00239706-00239884 things like this apparently the changes HE7OS9G7yeu-01067-00239885-00239992 that I made earlier were not HE7OS9G7yeu-01068-00239994-00240196 automatically described on the screen so HE7OS9G7yeu-01069-00240198-00240353 I may put in a bug report about that HE7OS9G7yeu-01070-00240354-00240556 anyway HE7OS9G7yeu-01071-00240557-00240610 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01072-00240611-00240844 but it didn't used to be possible to HE7OS9G7yeu-01073-00240846-00240989 keep your header at the top so you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-01074-00240990-00241146 notice that when I scroll down right now HE7OS9G7yeu-01075-00241148-00241417 uh the header disappears with it right HE7OS9G7yeu-01076-00241417-00241763 let's say that I want this to stay here HE7OS9G7yeu-01077-00241764-00242032 I would like anytime someone goes down HE7OS9G7yeu-01078-00242033-00242194 to read HE7OS9G7yeu-01079-00242196-00242315 um maybe I'll make this a little smaller HE7OS9G7yeu-01080-00242316-00242423 so it looks a little bit better with HE7OS9G7yeu-01081-00242423-00242506 that HE7OS9G7yeu-01082-00242507-00242771 anytime somebody is reading I want them HE7OS9G7yeu-01083-00242771-00243065 to always see my logo my my site title HE7OS9G7yeu-01084-00243066-00243227 and my navigation just so they don't get HE7OS9G7yeu-01085-00243228-00243610 lost what you can do is stick this to HE7OS9G7yeu-01086-00243611-00243755 the top of the page and that was what I HE7OS9G7yeu-01087-00243756-00243875 was fighting with a little bit earlier HE7OS9G7yeu-01088-00243876-00244313 today so the way to do this HE7OS9G7yeu-01089-00244314-00244403 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01090-00244404-00244691 is uh it's not actually in the header HE7OS9G7yeu-01091-00244692-00244901 template right now so what you have to HE7OS9G7yeu-01092-00244902-00245231 do is actually Nest it inside of a HE7OS9G7yeu-01093-00245232-00245369 different block and that actually may be HE7OS9G7yeu-01094-00245369-00245513 what was causing the problem earlier so HE7OS9G7yeu-01095-00245514-00245710 let me show you this a little bit so HE7OS9G7yeu-01096-00245711-00245873 what I'm going to do if I want to stick HE7OS9G7yeu-01097-00245873-00246058 this to the Top This is a 6.2 feature HE7OS9G7yeu-01098-00246059-00246346 I'm going to right click HE7OS9G7yeu-01099-00246348-00246587 um and I am going to select this group HE7OS9G7yeu-01100-00246588-00246748 button HE7OS9G7yeu-01101-00246750-00246917 okay there's something in the group HE7OS9G7yeu-01102-00246917-00247055 block settings that's doing that that's HE7OS9G7yeu-01103-00247056-00247169 okay HE7OS9G7yeu-01104-00247169-00247403 but HE7OS9G7yeu-01105-00247404-00247727 hold on go back I want my header here HE7OS9G7yeu-01106-00247728-00247996 I want you to be grouped there we go all HE7OS9G7yeu-01107-00247998-00248225 right so now my header is inside this HE7OS9G7yeu-01108-00248226-00248458 group it is only within this group HE7OS9G7yeu-01109-00248459-00248734 button and maybe the cover block option HE7OS9G7yeu-01110-00248735-00249208 as well that a new uh feature appears so HE7OS9G7yeu-01111-00249209-00249437 I've got this group block selected and HE7OS9G7yeu-01112-00249438-00249556 you'll notice that it doesn't appear HE7OS9G7yeu-01113-00249557-00249755 here this allows me to ungroup it this HE7OS9G7yeu-01114-00249756-00249977 allows me to move it and there might be HE7OS9G7yeu-01115-00249978-00250121 some other options here but the way to HE7OS9G7yeu-01116-00250121-00250360 get this to stick to the top of my page HE7OS9G7yeu-01117-00250361-00250642 it's under this position tab if I select HE7OS9G7yeu-01118-00250644-00250751 this HE7OS9G7yeu-01119-00250752-00250955 and select sticky the block will stick HE7OS9G7yeu-01120-00250956-00251105 to the top of the window instead of HE7OS9G7yeu-01121-00251106-00251315 scrolling with the website HE7OS9G7yeu-01122-00251316-00251779 so now check it out HE7OS9G7yeu-01123-00251780-00252046 you can see that it's there oh wow and HE7OS9G7yeu-01124-00252048-00252244 it's see-through on the side oh there's HE7OS9G7yeu-01125-00252246-00252401 so many interesting things you could do HE7OS9G7yeu-01126-00252402-00252808 with this that's really cool anyway HE7OS9G7yeu-01127-00252809-00253151 um so this theme must have something in HE7OS9G7yeu-01128-00253152-00253427 the group settings that puts the space HE7OS9G7yeu-01129-00253428-00253691 on either side I may go back and try and HE7OS9G7yeu-01130-00253692-00253871 fix that in a little bit but as you can HE7OS9G7yeu-01131-00253871-00253996 see HE7OS9G7yeu-01132-00253998-00254231 um this is is stuck to the very top of HE7OS9G7yeu-01133-00254232-00254375 this page which could be a really cool HE7OS9G7yeu-01134-00254376-00254765 feature HE7OS9G7yeu-01135-00254766-00254915 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01136-00254916-00255131 so someone asked can you do that with HE7OS9G7yeu-01137-00255132-00255377 just the navigation great question let's HE7OS9G7yeu-01138-00255378-00255496 find out HE7OS9G7yeu-01139-00255498-00256048 um I'm gonna undo it right now HE7OS9G7yeu-01140-00256050-00256223 so I tested this earlier and you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-01141-00256223-00256492 notice that I'm doing this in HE7OS9G7yeu-01142-00256494-00256853 a template not on the HE7OS9G7yeu-01143-00256854-00257141 uh template part itself so I'm not sure HE7OS9G7yeu-01144-00257142-00257267 this is going to work but we're going to HE7OS9G7yeu-01145-00257267-00257482 try it so what I'm going to do to try HE7OS9G7yeu-01146-00257483-00257741 this and may may not work at all this HE7OS9G7yeu-01147-00257742-00257915 may Crash and Burn I'm gonna head to my HE7OS9G7yeu-01148-00257916-00258077 template part HE7OS9G7yeu-01149-00258078-00258317 and click on header HE7OS9G7yeu-01150-00258317-00258832 I'm going to edit this HE7OS9G7yeu-01151-00258833-00259103 and now I'm going to use my list View HE7OS9G7yeu-01152-00259104-00259282 there's already a group there there's a HE7OS9G7yeu-01153-00259283-00259546 cover there's a row there's navigation I HE7OS9G7yeu-01154-00259548-00259727 might be able to do it just with this HE7OS9G7yeu-01155-00259728-00260080 row HE7OS9G7yeu-01156-00260081-00260267 I think it needs to be grouped though HE7OS9G7yeu-01157-00260267-00260596 because I don't actually see that in HE7OS9G7yeu-01158-00260598-00260765 these options so I think what I'm going HE7OS9G7yeu-01159-00260766-00260932 to have to do is put this row inside of HE7OS9G7yeu-01160-00260933-00261077 a group HE7OS9G7yeu-01161-00261078-00261413 so I'm going to write HE7OS9G7yeu-01162-00261414-00261719 right click and I'm going to write group HE7OS9G7yeu-01163-00261719-00261905 so now if I click this button here to HE7OS9G7yeu-01164-00261906-00262042 expand it see what I'm looking at you HE7OS9G7yeu-01165-00262044-00262180 can see that this has been put inside HE7OS9G7yeu-01166-00262181-00262319 that group HE7OS9G7yeu-01167-00262320-00262613 this group under my settings over here HE7OS9G7yeu-01168-00262614-00262769 on the right HE7OS9G7yeu-01169-00262770-00263213 should is it template no hmm I have HE7OS9G7yeu-01170-00263214-00263399 group selected HE7OS9G7yeu-01171-00263400-00263687 okay so that feature did not show up HE7OS9G7yeu-01172-00263688-00263963 fascinating HE7OS9G7yeu-01173-00263964-00264289 okay HE7OS9G7yeu-01174-00264290-00264484 so I think there might be a couple other HE7OS9G7yeu-01175-00264485-00264653 ways around it we may towards the end HE7OS9G7yeu-01176-00264654-00264784 experiment with this a little bit more HE7OS9G7yeu-01177-00264785-00265073 but it looks like it has to be in a HE7OS9G7yeu-01178-00265074-00265277 template not a template part for this HE7OS9G7yeu-01179-00265278-00265427 would be my thought Catherine do you HE7OS9G7yeu-01180-00265428-00265667 have any ideas you look like yeah I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-01181-00265668-00265858 actually reading the GitHub ticket where HE7OS9G7yeu-01182-00265859-00266110 this whole concept of sticky pose the HE7OS9G7yeu-01183-00266111-00266308 sticky Parts was discussed and HE7OS9G7yeu-01184-00266309-00266555 Eagle just chime in says it only works HE7OS9G7yeu-01185-00266556-00266777 on the parent group so as somebody else HE7OS9G7yeu-01186-00266778-00266921 pointed out earlier that when you start HE7OS9G7yeu-01187-00266922-00267173 nesting groups like that you get HE7OS9G7yeu-01188-00267174-00267382 limitations as to which piece of it can HE7OS9G7yeu-01189-00267383-00267575 be sticky which makes sense because HE7OS9G7yeu-01190-00267576-00267730 you're just going to start to get some HE7OS9G7yeu-01191-00267731-00268013 really weird effects yeah HE7OS9G7yeu-01192-00268014-00268330 okay well let's take this out of the HE7OS9G7yeu-01193-00268331-00268480 yeah that makes sense I'm going to try HE7OS9G7yeu-01194-00268481-00268673 and move this out of here it doesn't HE7OS9G7yeu-01195-00268674-00268853 want to move out of here though does it HE7OS9G7yeu-01196-00268854-00269063 come on you there we go all right so I HE7OS9G7yeu-01197-00269064-00269239 moved this out a bit so it's no longer HE7OS9G7yeu-01198-00269240-00269615 uh in here anymore HE7OS9G7yeu-01199-00269616-00269956 but it is now the parent group aha our HE7OS9G7yeu-01200-00269957-00270173 position button has reappeared so HE7OS9G7yeu-01201-00270174-00270539 position so sticky let's save it HE7OS9G7yeu-01202-00270540-00270749 let's head back to our templates and see HE7OS9G7yeu-01203-00270750-00270934 what that did fascinating y'all what HE7OS9G7yeu-01204-00270935-00271156 great questions you're asking HE7OS9G7yeu-01205-00271157-00271480 here we go templates HE7OS9G7yeu-01206-00271481-00271693 let's go to our index here HE7OS9G7yeu-01207-00271694-00271973 it did oh interesting it only did within HE7OS9G7yeu-01208-00271974-00272380 that template Catherine did you see that HE7OS9G7yeu-01209-00272381-00272584 so you'll notice that it scrolled for a HE7OS9G7yeu-01210-00272585-00272819 minute and then like it stuck for a HE7OS9G7yeu-01211-00272820-00273034 minute and then it kept going so it only HE7OS9G7yeu-01212-00273035-00273473 stayed as far as that template part went HE7OS9G7yeu-01213-00273474-00273749 wow I think the idea is that it's meant HE7OS9G7yeu-01214-00273750-00274055 to be for the whole header so while you HE7OS9G7yeu-01215-00274056-00274229 can start experimenting like this like HE7OS9G7yeu-01216-00274230-00274360 looking at this ticket like the whole HE7OS9G7yeu-01217-00274361-00274571 concept is fixed position header and HE7OS9G7yeu-01218-00274572-00274793 footer top of cards so that's yeah as HE7OS9G7yeu-01219-00274794-00274919 micro says it won't jump to another HE7OS9G7yeu-01220-00274920-00275039 group block HE7OS9G7yeu-01221-00275040-00275195 yeah that's HE7OS9G7yeu-01222-00275196-00275471 I love that now what a cool effect like HE7OS9G7yeu-01223-00275472-00275687 you could do a lot with this ah I love HE7OS9G7yeu-01224-00275688-00275915 it okay wow that just that feels fancy HE7OS9G7yeu-01225-00275916-00276119 all right let's keep going for the sake HE7OS9G7yeu-01226-00276120-00276449 of time great questions y'all so you'll HE7OS9G7yeu-01227-00276450-00276653 notice that we're learning together and HE7OS9G7yeu-01228-00276654-00276827 you will learn new things every time you HE7OS9G7yeu-01229-00276828-00276995 play with the site editor and that is HE7OS9G7yeu-01230-00276996-00277289 expected and okay and it gets better and HE7OS9G7yeu-01231-00277290-00277487 better HE7OS9G7yeu-01232-00277488-00278003 okay so next one no pictures no problem HE7OS9G7yeu-01233-00278004-00278249 um once upon a time when I was a student HE7OS9G7yeu-01234-00278250-00278465 I used to go and just rip pictures off HE7OS9G7yeu-01235-00278466-00278656 of Google turns out you're not supposed HE7OS9G7yeu-01236-00278657-00278849 to do that there are copyright issues HE7OS9G7yeu-01237-00278850-00279041 and you don't want to get sued and or HE7OS9G7yeu-01238-00279042-00279430 fired so what can you do if you will you HE7OS9G7yeu-01239-00279431-00279593 know are not a master photographer or HE7OS9G7yeu-01240-00279594-00279887 graphic designer there is HE7OS9G7yeu-01241-00279888-00280025 a new HE7OS9G7yeu-01242-00280026-00280415 feature with 6.2 HE7OS9G7yeu-01243-00280416-00280606 um that HE7OS9G7yeu-01244-00280607-00280889 allows you to grab some photos so let's HE7OS9G7yeu-01245-00280890-00281063 say we were writing a post let's add a HE7OS9G7yeu-01246-00281064-00281177 new post HE7OS9G7yeu-01247-00281178-00281327 mine HE7OS9G7yeu-01248-00281328-00281501 new post HE7OS9G7yeu-01249-00281502-00281747 say I want to start with an image HE7OS9G7yeu-01250-00281748-00281891 if you click up here to your block HE7OS9G7yeu-01251-00281892-00282179 inserter HE7OS9G7yeu-01252-00282180-00282527 there is now a button that says media so HE7OS9G7yeu-01253-00282528-00282695 if you select that there is a button HE7OS9G7yeu-01254-00282696-00283006 there called open verse and I can search HE7OS9G7yeu-01255-00283007-00283205 open verse for all kinds of stuff so I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-01256-00283206-00283373 gonna look for apparently there's not a HE7OS9G7yeu-01257-00283374-00283505 picture of a Sharpay HE7OS9G7yeu-01258-00283506-00283882 Sharpie no it's not dog HE7OS9G7yeu-01259-00283883-00284141 there we go oh look at this this little HE7OS9G7yeu-01260-00284142-00284551 sweet wrinkle dog okay so you are able HE7OS9G7yeu-01261-00284552-00284867 to find images that you are welcome to HE7OS9G7yeu-01262-00284868-00285160 use on your website here so this beats HE7OS9G7yeu-01263-00285161-00285323 just go into Google because you're HE7OS9G7yeu-01264-00285324-00285460 probably not going to get sued for using HE7OS9G7yeu-01265-00285461-00285689 these because they are open source HE7OS9G7yeu-01266-00285690-00285929 um so I click it HE7OS9G7yeu-01267-00285930-00286127 and you'll see a couple of things HE7OS9G7yeu-01268-00286128-00286373 happened here so we've got the title pug HE7OS9G7yeu-01269-00286374-00286734 dog by Matthew and then this here the HE7OS9G7yeu-01270-00286735-00287087 cc01.0 this is the Creative Commons HE7OS9G7yeu-01271-00287088-00287387 license so what this does is this tells HE7OS9G7yeu-01272-00287388-00287621 you how you are allowed to use it so HE7OS9G7yeu-01273-00287622-00287921 this is a public domain dedication HE7OS9G7yeu-01274-00287922-00288089 um it's the human readable version of HE7OS9G7yeu-01275-00288090-00288280 what this is so the person who took this HE7OS9G7yeu-01276-00288281-00288508 picture they dedicated this work to the HE7OS9G7yeu-01277-00288509-00288719 public domain they said hey this isn't HE7OS9G7yeu-01278-00288720-00289067 mine use it enjoy it it's great and you HE7OS9G7yeu-01279-00289068-00289265 can copy this you can modify it you can HE7OS9G7yeu-01280-00289266-00289469 distribute it even for commercial HE7OS9G7yeu-01281-00289470-00289834 purposes all without asking permission HE7OS9G7yeu-01282-00289835-00290005 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01283-00290006-00290303 so there are a couple of rules here like HE7OS9G7yeu-01284-00290304-00290489 don't you know say that the artist HE7OS9G7yeu-01285-00290490-00290687 endorse them like endorse your website HE7OS9G7yeu-01286-00290688-00290927 when they didn't HE7OS9G7yeu-01287-00290928-00291173 um I'm not sure I'd have to explore this HE7OS9G7yeu-01288-00291174-00291353 this is so new that I I'm not sure about HE7OS9G7yeu-01289-00291354-00291479 like this but some of them require HE7OS9G7yeu-01290-00291480-00291815 attribution so it's the title of what it HE7OS9G7yeu-01291-00291816-00292043 is it is the author I'm not sure that HE7OS9G7yeu-01292-00292044-00292187 this one does I'd have to look into it HE7OS9G7yeu-01293-00292188-00292355 but definitely check these licenses if HE7OS9G7yeu-01294-00292356-00292487 you're worried about it HE7OS9G7yeu-01295-00292488-00292684 um it's always a great idea to give a HE7OS9G7yeu-01296-00292685-00292817 nod to the people who took the photos HE7OS9G7yeu-01297-00292818-00293069 but definitely do check the license HE7OS9G7yeu-01298-00293070-00293249 conditions of the images that that you HE7OS9G7yeu-01299-00293250-00293345 pick HE7OS9G7yeu-01300-00293346-00293555 um and you'll also notice that under HE7OS9G7yeu-01301-00293556-00293860 this media open verse search here HE7OS9G7yeu-01302-00293861-00294119 there's are these like three dots you HE7OS9G7yeu-01303-00294120-00294305 can also report images because it is HE7OS9G7yeu-01304-00294306-00294467 open source sometimes something might HE7OS9G7yeu-01305-00294468-00294599 slip through HE7OS9G7yeu-01306-00294600-00294832 um if it should not be HE7OS9G7yeu-01307-00294833-00295043 on this page please don't hesitate to HE7OS9G7yeu-01308-00295044-00295397 report an image or two HE7OS9G7yeu-01309-00295398-00295582 so HE7OS9G7yeu-01310-00295583-00295745 and someone said yes this sounds easier HE7OS9G7yeu-01311-00295746-00295955 than using stock images yeah I have HE7OS9G7yeu-01312-00295956-00296177 found it to be significantly easier it's HE7OS9G7yeu-01313-00296178-00296393 streamlined my workflow HE7OS9G7yeu-01314-00296394-00296477 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01315-00296478-00296629 yeah HE7OS9G7yeu-01316-00296630-00296963 so there was that and I can publish this HE7OS9G7yeu-01317-00296964-00297293 page I can view my posts HE7OS9G7yeu-01318-00297294-00297658 and yeah it's all right there so I think HE7OS9G7yeu-01319-00297659-00297839 you might be getting the hang of this so HE7OS9G7yeu-01320-00297840-00298091 far HE7OS9G7yeu-01321-00298092-00298313 um the last thing that I wanted to show HE7OS9G7yeu-01322-00298314-00298625 you is a new feature HE7OS9G7yeu-01323-00298626-00298853 um is pushing up one block style to all HE7OS9G7yeu-01324-00298854-00299063 the others uh in its class as well this HE7OS9G7yeu-01325-00299064-00299219 is a more advanced feature I've been HE7OS9G7yeu-01326-00299220-00299351 playing with this for two days it did HE7OS9G7yeu-01327-00299352-00299495 not work the way that I expected it to HE7OS9G7yeu-01328-00299496-00299747 Catherine solved the problem though HE7OS9G7yeu-01329-00299748-00300010 um if you style a block you can copy and HE7OS9G7yeu-01330-00300011-00300160 paste it HE7OS9G7yeu-01331-00300161-00300347 um in a way that preserves the things HE7OS9G7yeu-01332-00300348-00300682 that you have styled so I actually have HE7OS9G7yeu-01333-00300683-00300845 to Catherine realized that you had to HE7OS9G7yeu-01334-00300846-00301156 have an SSL certificate which your local HE7OS9G7yeu-01335-00301157-00301397 WordPress installation will not do for HE7OS9G7yeu-01336-00301398-00301534 you HE7OS9G7yeu-01337-00301535-00301810 um so in order to do this HE7OS9G7yeu-01338-00301811-00301991 let me go to add new post this is just HE7OS9G7yeu-01339-00301992-00302332 my personal food blog so it's just where HE7OS9G7yeu-01340-00302333-00302489 I store recipes because I'm too lazy to HE7OS9G7yeu-01341-00302490-00302717 write them by hand HE7OS9G7yeu-01342-00302718-00302963 there is a post HE7OS9G7yeu-01343-00302964-00303353 this is HE7OS9G7yeu-01344-00303354-00303808 so now I can style this block if I want HE7OS9G7yeu-01345-00303809-00304103 to the best of my ability HE7OS9G7yeu-01346-00304104-00304306 and if I want to HE7OS9G7yeu-01347-00304307-00304679 I can copy this block HE7OS9G7yeu-01348-00304680-00305080 and I can underneath it let me HE7OS9G7yeu-01349-00305081-00305291 using my inserter always reminding HE7OS9G7yeu-01350-00305292-00305393 myself HE7OS9G7yeu-01351-00305394-00305693 I can duplicate that block HE7OS9G7yeu-01352-00305694-00305908 or if I HE7OS9G7yeu-01353-00305909-00306245 I am writing a new block oh wait I'm not HE7OS9G7yeu-01354-00306246-00306467 up oh I'm not upgraded to 6.2 I knew HE7OS9G7yeu-01355-00306468-00306610 there was something I was forgetting so HE7OS9G7yeu-01356-00306611-00306808 in 6.2 HE7OS9G7yeu-01357-00306809-00306965 when you select this there will be an HE7OS9G7yeu-01358-00306966-00307234 option that says copy block Styles you HE7OS9G7yeu-01359-00307235-00307541 will be able to paste those block Styles HE7OS9G7yeu-01360-00307542-00307703 directly onto here and it will then HE7OS9G7yeu-01361-00307704-00307906 match what I did up here HE7OS9G7yeu-01362-00307907-00308158 don't have time to to do that but it's HE7OS9G7yeu-01363-00308159-00308291 just something to be aware of something HE7OS9G7yeu-01364-00308292-00308513 that's coming HE7OS9G7yeu-01365-00308514-00308729 um with the sneak peek HE7OS9G7yeu-01366-00308730-00309232 so yeah we are coming up on time here HE7OS9G7yeu-01367-00309233-00309358 um there's also a way that you can push HE7OS9G7yeu-01368-00309359-00309532 a style to every single other block that HE7OS9G7yeu-01369-00309533-00309682 utilizes it I haven't figured that one HE7OS9G7yeu-01370-00309683-00309821 out yet I'm re-running this and HE7OS9G7yeu-01371-00309822-00310030 hopefully we'll have it figured out by HE7OS9G7yeu-01372-00310031-00310271 the next time next week HE7OS9G7yeu-01373-00310272-00310343 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01374-00310344-00310541 but yeah I'm just I'm curious we'll have HE7OS9G7yeu-01375-00310542-00310780 some time for questions at the end here HE7OS9G7yeu-01376-00310781-00310979 um now that you've sat through this this HE7OS9G7yeu-01377-00310980-00311195 presentation how much do you know now HE7OS9G7yeu-01378-00311196-00311573 about setting up a Blog with WordPress HE7OS9G7yeu-01379-00311574-00311789 I'm just curious HE7OS9G7yeu-01380-00311790-00311999 Eagle says a five yay I don't know if HE7OS9G7yeu-01381-00312000-00312089 that's different I have to have to HE7OS9G7yeu-01382-00312090-00312334 compare but HE7OS9G7yeu-01383-00312335-00312521 um Sean asks is does 6.2 still have the HE7OS9G7yeu-01384-00312522-00312671 reusable block feature you love that HE7OS9G7yeu-01385-00312672-00312851 feature yes it does I don't think that HE7OS9G7yeu-01386-00312852-00313193 feature's going anywhere HE7OS9G7yeu-01387-00313194-00313373 five HE7OS9G7yeu-01388-00313374-00313867 any others any others HE7OS9G7yeu-01389-00313868-00314321 see a four a four HE7OS9G7yeu-01390-00314322-00314530 micro says that 6.2 should also just HE7OS9G7yeu-01391-00314531-00314801 pull in Creative Commons 2 meaning that HE7OS9G7yeu-01392-00314802-00314939 just ones that are completely free to HE7OS9G7yeu-01393-00314940-00315047 use HE7OS9G7yeu-01394-00315048-00315334 okay I don't know if that's a thing that HE7OS9G7yeu-01395-00315335-00315521 we know for a fact or if that's like HE7OS9G7yeu-01396-00315522-00315695 probably what we should suggest that we HE7OS9G7yeu-01397-00315696-00315880 do HE7OS9G7yeu-01398-00315881-00316032 um if you if that's a fact let me know HE7OS9G7yeu-01399-00316033-00316349 if uh you're just saying hey this is HE7OS9G7yeu-01400-00316350-00316469 what I would like to have him that HE7OS9G7yeu-01401-00316470-00316703 that's good to to let us know too I'm HE7OS9G7yeu-01402-00316704-00317032 saying a 5 a 4.5 okay HE7OS9G7yeu-01403-00317033-00317410 well lovely okay cool any final HE7OS9G7yeu-01404-00317411-00317597 questions HE7OS9G7yeu-01405-00317598-00317819 um from today's presentation today is HE7OS9G7yeu-01406-00317820-00317969 there anything that you'd like to see do HE7OS9G7yeu-01407-00317970-00318125 you want to see me like HE7OS9G7yeu-01408-00318126-00318491 troubleshoot things HE7OS9G7yeu-01409-00318492-00318671 I'm gonna click on my edit site button HE7OS9G7yeu-01410-00318672-00318965 up here HE7OS9G7yeu-01411-00318966-00319156 I'm really curious about like because HE7OS9G7yeu-01412-00319157-00319330 grouping this block is what what did HE7OS9G7yeu-01413-00319331-00319445 that right HE7OS9G7yeu-01414-00319446-00319630 so I'm gonna head to that Temple part HE7OS9G7yeu-01415-00319631-00319751 because I want to see if I can make that HE7OS9G7yeu-01416-00319752-00319949 go the full width HE7OS9G7yeu-01417-00319950-00320134 template parts HE7OS9G7yeu-01418-00320135-00320279 and if you have a question feel free to HE7OS9G7yeu-01419-00320280-00320537 ask right now I'm just kind of HE7OS9G7yeu-01420-00320538-00320884 so this should be the full width HE7OS9G7yeu-01421-00320885-00321353 here why is it not HE7OS9G7yeu-01422-00321354-00321815 I think it's because it's in a group HE7OS9G7yeu-01423-00321816-00322073 I've not seen I can ungroup it which HE7OS9G7yeu-01424-00322074-00322667 might fix it HE7OS9G7yeu-01425-00322668-00322906 so I can transform it from a group to a HE7OS9G7yeu-01426-00322907-00323254 row to a stack HE7OS9G7yeu-01427-00323255-00323560 and our blocks use content width so this HE7OS9G7yeu-01428-00323561-00323741 says nested blocks will fill that if I HE7OS9G7yeu-01429-00323742-00323939 turn that on oh interesting I wonder if HE7OS9G7yeu-01430-00323940-00324208 that's what's causing it HE7OS9G7yeu-01431-00324209-00324479 position default I can make that sticky HE7OS9G7yeu-01432-00324480-00324599 because it's a group let's see what HE7OS9G7yeu-01433-00324600-00324760 happens if I just remove this group not HE7OS9G7yeu-01434-00324761-00325084 remove the group ungroup it HE7OS9G7yeu-01435-00325085-00325330 just want to see HE7OS9G7yeu-01436-00325331-00325553 so now I'm going to head back to a HE7OS9G7yeu-01437-00325554-00325715 template HE7OS9G7yeu-01438-00325716-00325925 not a template part HE7OS9G7yeu-01439-00325926-00326213 Blitz HE7OS9G7yeu-01440-00326214-00326482 nope it's still HE7OS9G7yeu-01441-00326483-00326782 fascinating sometimes things just work HE7OS9G7yeu-01442-00326783-00327010 in interesting ways I wonder if there is HE7OS9G7yeu-01443-00327011-00327323 Style with that group blocks I think I HE7OS9G7yeu-01444-00327324-00327551 was in settings HE7OS9G7yeu-01445-00327552-00327803 let's look in Styles so one thing that HE7OS9G7yeu-01446-00327804-00327941 you'll notice is that there are lots of HE7OS9G7yeu-01447-00327942-00328108 places to do a lot of things right we HE7OS9G7yeu-01448-00328109-00328499 have our settings we have our styles HE7OS9G7yeu-01449-00328500-00328756 um I'm gonna go to the group block and HE7OS9G7yeu-01450-00328757-00329123 see if there's anything set there HE7OS9G7yeu-01451-00329124-00329369 I'm finding it right there HE7OS9G7yeu-01452-00329370-00329734 there's a layout button oh fun HE7OS9G7yeu-01453-00329735-00329908 well it doesn't look like it I can add HE7OS9G7yeu-01454-00329909-00330137 padding HE7OS9G7yeu-01455-00330138-00330323 oh fascinating HE7OS9G7yeu-01456-00330324-00330677 out of order oh wow HE7OS9G7yeu-01457-00330678-00330832 you'll just notice that you can discover HE7OS9G7yeu-01458-00330833-00331199 really fun things HE7OS9G7yeu-01459-00331200-00331306 um HE7OS9G7yeu-01460-00331307-00331451 all right Catherine says please note HE7OS9G7yeu-01461-00331452-00331625 that open verse does not verify whether HE7OS9G7yeu-01462-00331626-00331882 the images are properly licensed like HE7OS9G7yeu-01463-00331883-00332063 for Creative Commons or whether the HE7OS9G7yeu-01464-00332064-00332182 attribution and other licensing HE7OS9G7yeu-01465-00332183-00332327 information that we've aggregated is HE7OS9G7yeu-01466-00332328-00332513 completely accurate or complete so do HE7OS9G7yeu-01467-00332514-00332777 double check great what a great idea HE7OS9G7yeu-01468-00332778-00333023 copy paste from their page so it's just HE7OS9G7yeu-01469-00333024-00333208 better safe to be uh better to be safe HE7OS9G7yeu-01470-00333209-00333323 than sorry they don't really say HE7OS9G7yeu-01471-00333324-00333532 anything there that I can see about 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can you please speak English HFSQrw8ybsu-00074-00086144-00087587 today today yeah HFSQrw8ybsu-00075-00087588-00087959 yes HFSQrw8ybsu-00076-00087960-00088379 yeah so what's hot yeah HFSQrw8ybsu-00077-00088380-00089267 money on the evening HFSQrw8ybsu-00078-00089268-00089725 yes no if my first time go here HFSQrw8ybsu-00079-00089726-00090035 you want to eat or maybe take a look HFSQrw8ybsu-00080-00090036-00090232 first HFSQrw8ybsu-00081-00090233-00090665 so maybe you can sell me HFSQrw8ybsu-00082-00090666-00091199 this photo here alone HFSQrw8ybsu-00083-00091200-00091337 don't know HFSQrw8ybsu-00084-00091338-00092125 I don't know my HFSQrw8ybsu-00085-00092126-00092909 English too HFSQrw8ybsu-00086-00092910-00093532 where we go HFSQrw8ybsu-00087-00093533-00095087 here HFSQrw8ybsu-00088-00095088-00095368 can you HFSQrw8ybsu-00089-00095369-00096020 know English HFSQrw8ybsu-00090-00096021-00098862 [Music] HFSQrw8ybsu-00091-00098863-00100655 two miles HFSQrw8ybsu-00092-00100656-00101347 right HFSQrw8ybsu-00093-00101348-00101532 live HFSQrw8ybsu-00094-00101533-00103210 long life HFSQrw8ybsu-00095-00103211-00105316 all right HFSQrw8ybsu-00096-00105317-00105547 hello HFSQrw8ybsu-00097-00105548-00106171 [Music] HFSQrw8ybsu-00098-00106172-00106384 what's your name HFSQrw8ybsu-00099-00106385-00107358 my name is HFSQrw8ybsu-00100-00107359-00107860 [Music] HFSQrw8ybsu-00101-00107861-00110358 questions HFSQrw8ybsu-00102-00110359-00110699 I wish I knew HFSQrw8ybsu-00103-00110700-00110929 foreign HH90xbtvINo-00000-00000454-00001550 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00001-00001551-00001614 hold me HH90xbtvINo-00002-00001616-00002453 close till i get up time HH90xbtvINo-00003-00002454-00002902 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00004-00002903-00003119 and love is all we'll ever HH90xbtvINo-00005-00003120-00003677 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00006-00003678-00004311 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00007-00004312-00004600 wastelands trust the highways to my HH90xbtvINo-00008-00004601-00004827 [Applause] HH90xbtvINo-00009-00004828-00005395 shadows HH90xbtvINo-00010-00005396-00006304 through the highways HH90xbtvINo-00011-00006305-00008483 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00012-00008484-00008831 oh HH90xbtvINo-00013-00008832-00009146 along the way HH90xbtvINo-00014-00009147-00009919 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00015-00009920-00011438 around melodies walls HH90xbtvINo-00016-00011439-00011583 through the wastelands through the HH90xbtvINo-00017-00011584-00014581 highways to my shadow turns to sunrays HH90xbtvINo-00018-00014582-00015286 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00019-00015287-00016935 and we'll grow in number HH90xbtvINo-00020-00016936-00018091 the horizon HH90xbtvINo-00021-00018092-00020110 through the highways to my shadows HH90xbtvINo-00022-00020111-00021311 [Music] HH90xbtvINo-00023-00021312-00021520 you HHul2RuDqw0-00000-00000014-00000343 the men's 50 meter freestyle event was HHul2RuDqw0-00001-00000344-00000596 the 28th event contested of the swimming HHul2RuDqw0-00002-00000597-00000844 events at the 2007 World Aquatics HHul2RuDqw0-00003-00000846-00001054 Championships at the Rod Laver Arena HHul2RuDqw0-00004-00001055-00001406 Melbourne Australia the heats were held HHul2RuDqw0-00005-00001407-00001582 in the morning session of the meet on HHul2RuDqw0-00006-00001583-00001841 the 30th of March 2007 with the HHul2RuDqw0-00007-00001842-00002066 semifinals in the evening session of the HHul2RuDqw0-00008-00002067-00002326 same day the final was held on the HHul2RuDqw0-00009-00002327-00003145 evening of the 31st of March 2007 HHul2RuDqw0-00010-00003146-00003663 topic records HHul2RuDqw0-00011-00003664-00003936 prior to the championships the following HHul2RuDqw0-00012-00003936-00004143 World and World Championship records HHul2RuDqw0-00013-00004144-00004784 were listed by FINA HHul2RuDqw0-00014-00004785-00005306 topic heats HHul2RuDqw0-00015-00005307-00005662 you HHul2RuDqw0-00016-00005663-00006226 topic semifinals HHul2RuDqw0-00017-00006227-00006606 equals equals final 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HNQyqybfI4o-00052-00071768-00074050 this is HNQyqybfI4o-00053-00074051-00076235 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00054-00076236-00078176 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00055-00078177-00079711 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00056-00079712-00081120 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00057-00081121-00081671 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00058-00081672-00082545 everybody HNQyqybfI4o-00059-00082546-00083538 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00060-00083539-00083723 all right HNQyqybfI4o-00061-00083724-00084961 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00062-00084962-00085656 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00063-00085657-00087801 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00064-00087802-00088159 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00065-00088160-00089221 all right HNQyqybfI4o-00066-00089222-00090183 transcendental book distribution HNQyqybfI4o-00067-00090184-00090927 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00068-00090928-00091271 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00069-00091272-00093450 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00070-00093451-00094253 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00071-00094254-00094304 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00072-00094305-00095047 [Music] 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some of the day and then we're moving on HNQyqybfI4o-00094-00119382-00119543 to majem treatment HNQyqybfI4o-00095-00119544-00119908 later in the afternoon HNQyqybfI4o-00096-00119909-00120221 so we're going to go to Hari harshitra HNQyqybfI4o-00097-00120222-00120652 right and then what's the next HNQyqybfI4o-00098-00120653-00120869 so you hear about the past time which HNQyqybfI4o-00099-00120870-00121163 took place at Guru daha Prabhu of course HNQyqybfI4o-00100-00121164-00121457 will be coming would be a drama there HNQyqybfI4o-00101-00121458-00121727 and HNQyqybfI4o-00102-00121728-00121981 then we're going to chill HNQyqybfI4o-00103-00121982-00122197 residency HNQyqybfI4o-00104-00122198-00122578 so it's small there's not much space HNQyqybfI4o-00105-00122579-00122849 there you just simply go in have dashing HNQyqybfI4o-00106-00122850-00122963 and come out HNQyqybfI4o-00107-00122964-00123251 and then we have turabi conch which is HNQyqybfI4o-00108-00123252-00123539 just around the 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HNQyqybfI4o-00138-00132822-00133049 Shiva HNQyqybfI4o-00139-00133050-00133343 how he was eager to come and hear about HNQyqybfI4o-00140-00133344-00133627 what HNQyqybfI4o-00141-00133628-00134014 again we just go in and have darshan we HNQyqybfI4o-00142-00134015-00134183 won't be able I don't think we'll stop HNQyqybfI4o-00143-00134184-00134507 there no because it's a HNQyqybfI4o-00144-00134508-00134752 the tempo is in the middle of the road HNQyqybfI4o-00145-00134753-00134861 there HNQyqybfI4o-00146-00134862-00135227 so there's too many of us to talk there HNQyqybfI4o-00147-00135228-00135533 but we'll go on to Naima sharanya HNQyqybfI4o-00148-00135534-00135863 all the holy places are here in HNQyqybfI4o-00149-00135864-00136175 mayapurdon just as all the holy places HNQyqybfI4o-00150-00136176-00136499 are there in front of them so mayapur HNQyqybfI4o-00151-00136500-00136775 and friend davan are not different and HNQyqybfI4o-00152-00136776-00137045 all of the holy places are here in HNQyqybfI4o-00153-00137046-00137513 mayapur Dam so is also here in my HNQyqybfI4o-00154-00137514-00137933 predominant we'll go there HNQyqybfI4o-00155-00137934-00138499 and then HNQyqybfI4o-00156-00138500-00138683 okay HNQyqybfI4o-00157-00138684-00138940 so after namish sharanya they may move HNQyqybfI4o-00158-00138941-00139373 to brahmanaga and our campus there HNQyqybfI4o-00159-00139374-00140837 to mock this evening HNQyqybfI4o-00160-00140838-00141107 so SRI devotees distributed books HNQyqybfI4o-00161-00141108-00141678 yesterday HNQyqybfI4o-00162-00141679-00143225 90 books HNQyqybfI4o-00163-00143226-00144095 so Toto books 131 books HNQyqybfI4o-00164-00144096-00144359 yeah books are available those of you HNQyqybfI4o-00165-00144360-00144623 who like to distribute some books in the HNQyqybfI4o-00166-00144624-00144881 Holy Dawn very nice you can get some HNQyqybfI4o-00167-00144882-00145127 books after we finish the program this HNQyqybfI4o-00168-00145128-00145475 morning before we leave HNQyqybfI4o-00169-00145476-00146731 so I will be leaving what time HNQyqybfI4o-00170-00146732-00147251 okay so 5 45 quarter 15 minutes before HNQyqybfI4o-00171-00147252-00147581 six o'clock we want to set off HNQyqybfI4o-00172-00147582-00147845 and the devotees will be joining us the HNQyqybfI4o-00173-00147846-00148013 ones who went back HNQyqybfI4o-00174-00148014-00148228 they'll be the buses will be bringing HNQyqybfI4o-00175-00148229-00148523 people out they'll be joining us on the HNQyqybfI4o-00176-00148524-00148739 way so they'll come probably come to HNQyqybfI4o-00177-00148740-00149089 hamsa HNQyqybfI4o-00178-00149090-00149585 Hari harshita HNQyqybfI4o-00179-00149586-00149771 so they'll be coming in the first season HNQyqybfI4o-00180-00149772-00149981 they'll be joining us and HNQyqybfI4o-00181-00149982-00150269 the crowd will expand HNQyqybfI4o-00182-00150270-00150593 okay we always HNQyqybfI4o-00183-00150594-00151061 so this day it is here we have HNQyqybfI4o-00184-00151062-00151373 very special deities they've been on the HNQyqybfI4o-00185-00151374-00151637 paragramas for many years HNQyqybfI4o-00186-00151638-00151804 probably HNQyqybfI4o-00187-00151805-00152039 other instant purchase of these deities HNQyqybfI4o-00188-00152040-00152316 some men came to my apartment HNQyqybfI4o-00189-00152317-00152651 purchases it is from them HNQyqybfI4o-00190-00152652-00152957 so the very beautiful deities very nice HNQyqybfI4o-00191-00152958-00153311 very merciful they were on the boat at HNQyqybfI4o-00192-00153312-00153533 one point we had a boat devotees were HNQyqybfI4o-00193-00153534-00153778 going up and down Ganga HNQyqybfI4o-00194-00153779-00154013 different Villages doing programs the HNQyqybfI4o-00195-00154014-00154271 deities were on the boat HNQyqybfI4o-00196-00154272-00154523 so now that on parakrama HNQyqybfI4o-00197-00154524-00154793 but that's every year HNQyqybfI4o-00198-00154794-00155201 so you can see the altar is also the the HNQyqybfI4o-00199-00155202-00155416 singer sun has been decorated very HNQyqybfI4o-00200-00155417-00155873 nicely very beautiful so many flowers HNQyqybfI4o-00201-00155874-00155981 those are here HNQyqybfI4o-00202-00155982-00156311 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00203-00156312-00156551 those of you met who are interested you HNQyqybfI4o-00204-00156552-00156851 may like to help and the decoration you HNQyqybfI4o-00205-00156852-00157066 can see it's very colorful very HNQyqybfI4o-00206-00157067-00157301 attractive HNQyqybfI4o-00207-00157302-00157487 one thing is when you go through the HNQyqybfI4o-00208-00157488-00157775 villages it's very nice to get people to HNQyqybfI4o-00209-00157776-00157913 chant HNQyqybfI4o-00210-00157914-00158093 you know when you see all the people HNQyqybfI4o-00211-00158094-00158351 come out there and then you just say to HNQyqybfI4o-00212-00158352-00159445 them somebody HNQyqybfI4o-00213-00159446-00159761 how many people can you get to say Hari HNQyqybfI4o-00214-00159762-00160199 Krishna in one day so one and one day HNQyqybfI4o-00215-00160200-00160366 it's amazing you know sometimes you can HNQyqybfI4o-00216-00160367-00160625 go past the school and all the children HNQyqybfI4o-00217-00160626-00160883 will come out and if you say sub HNQyqybfI4o-00218-00160884-00161011 bullying HNQyqybfI4o-00219-00161012-00161633 every one of them will go HNQyqybfI4o-00220-00161634-00161940 so it's very nice we'll try to remember HNQyqybfI4o-00221-00161941-00162275 and get people to chant I was seeing HNQyqybfI4o-00222-00162276-00162551 yesterday people were chanting to me you HNQyqybfI4o-00223-00162552-00162816 know HNQyqybfI4o-00224-00162817-00163109 so things are changing more and more HNQyqybfI4o-00225-00163110-00163361 people are appreciating our movement in HNQyqybfI4o-00226-00163362-00163601 the Holy Dawn it's very nice we have HNQyqybfI4o-00227-00163602-00163864 some people distributing prasadam some HNQyqybfI4o-00228-00163865-00164099 people distribute books and give HNQyqybfI4o-00229-00164100-00164393 everybody at least the Holy Name HNQyqybfI4o-00230-00164394-00164728 so that's very nice so the luggage have HNQyqybfI4o-00231-00164729-00164969 to put back where you got it HNQyqybfI4o-00232-00164970-00165154 you have to get your luggage ready put HNQyqybfI4o-00233-00165155-00165376 it back and we have to leave quarter to HNQyqybfI4o-00234-00165377-00165826 six okay thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00235-00165827-00166241 right HNQyqybfI4o-00236-00166242-00167010 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00237-00167011-00167225 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00238-00167226-00167614 today HNQyqybfI4o-00239-00167615-00168815 is HNQyqybfI4o-00240-00168816-00170921 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00241-00170922-00171237 everything HNQyqybfI4o-00242-00171238-00171599 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00243-00171600-00172751 is HNQyqybfI4o-00244-00172752-00173687 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00245-00173688-00175201 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00246-00175202-00175739 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00247-00175740-00176189 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00248-00176190-00176579 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00249-00176580-00178453 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00250-00178454-00180145 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00251-00180146-00182143 creeper party HNQyqybfI4o-00252-00182144-00184183 I believe HNQyqybfI4o-00253-00184184-00185161 you could learn HNQyqybfI4o-00254-00185162-00186635 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00255-00186636-00187271 I don't know HNQyqybfI4o-00256-00187272-00189637 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00257-00189638-00190354 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00258-00190355-00190702 animals HNQyqybfI4o-00259-00190703-00190942 Productions HNQyqybfI4o-00262-00201462-00202035 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00263-00202036-00203245 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00264-00203246-00203408 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00265-00203409-00203773 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00266-00203774-00204011 come here HNQyqybfI4o-00267-00204012-00204286 please HNQyqybfI4o-00268-00204287-00206195 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00269-00206196-00207053 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00270-00207054-00208614 tonight HNQyqybfI4o-00271-00208615-00210751 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00272-00210752-00210958 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00273-00210959-00211615 baby HNQyqybfI4o-00274-00211616-00213537 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00275-00213538-00214557 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00276-00214558-00215777 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00277-00215778-00216367 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00278-00216367-00217463 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00279-00217464-00218002 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00280-00218003-00220182 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00281-00220183-00220451 and are full of compassion for the HNQyqybfI4o-00282-00220452-00222142 Fallen conditioned Souls HNQyqybfI4o-00283-00222144-00223237 all right HNQyqybfI4o-00285-00227587-00227616 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00286-00227617-00228360 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00287-00228361-00229648 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00288-00229650-00230017 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00289-00230017-00230944 I don't know HNQyqybfI4o-00290-00230946-00232366 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00291-00232367-00233271 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00292-00233271-00234337 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00293-00234338-00235026 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00294-00235027-00235894 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00295-00235896-00235898 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00296-00235900-00236532 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00297-00236533-00238056 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00298-00238057-00238577 good morning HNQyqybfI4o-00299-00238578-00238902 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00300-00238903-00239694 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00301-00239696-00242255 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00302-00242256-00242490 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00303-00242491-00242646 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00304-00242648-00243029 so this is gorada huh HNQyqybfI4o-00305-00243030-00243298 um stop the lake HNQyqybfI4o-00306-00243300-00243556 we'll hear more about wonderful Pastime HNQyqybfI4o-00307-00243557-00243773 which took place here HNQyqybfI4o-00308-00243773-00244055 we have several speakers we have a drama HNQyqybfI4o-00309-00244056-00244219 also HNQyqybfI4o-00310-00244219-00244613 so be comfortable here first of all I HNQyqybfI4o-00311-00244614-00244801 want to thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00312-00244802-00245111 for that wonderful girl HNQyqybfI4o-00313-00245112-00245429 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00314-00245430-00245621 and of course we thank all the daily HNQyqybfI4o-00315-00245621-00245873 devotees also for their enthusiastic HNQyqybfI4o-00316-00245873-00246325 participation HNQyqybfI4o-00317-00246326-00246503 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00318-00246504-00246810 dally is the capital HNQyqybfI4o-00319-00246811-00247237 for kids time as well huh HNQyqybfI4o-00320-00247238-00247517 so we're going to here first of all our HNQyqybfI4o-00321-00247517-00247931 first speakers HNQyqybfI4o-00322-00247932-00248173 [Applause] HNQyqybfI4o-00323-00248173-00248477 to us about the glories of kids and HNQyqybfI4o-00324-00248478-00248705 chanting this is still good room a trip HNQyqybfI4o-00325-00248706-00249119 that's why everything is so ecstatic HNQyqybfI4o-00326-00249119-00249953 purple HNQyqybfI4o-00327-00249954-00250753 um HNQyqybfI4o-00328-00250754-00251460 we say the Spanish might be here HNQyqybfI4o-00329-00251461-00251784 writing he helps a lot HNQyqybfI4o-00330-00251785-00252317 of doing books by coming back and then a HNQyqybfI4o-00331-00252317-00252484 number of Articles would like to go HNQyqybfI4o-00332-00252485-00252677 ahead later on they came up with his own HNQyqybfI4o-00333-00252678-00253015 research book by forbidden archeology HNQyqybfI4o-00334-00253016-00253337 different books like that in presenting HNQyqybfI4o-00335-00253338-00253619 seminars also and many different HNQyqybfI4o-00336-00253619-00253846 institutes around the world HNQyqybfI4o-00337-00253848-00254687 world HNQyqybfI4o-00338-00254688-00255065 in terms of uh you know the evolution of HNQyqybfI4o-00339-00255066-00255401 the world is different what what Asian HNQyqybfI4o-00340-00255402-00255744 civilization was like HNQyqybfI4o-00341-00255746-00256201 a lot of work on this and usually uh HNQyqybfI4o-00342-00256202-00256534 send shop coins around the academic HNQyqybfI4o-00343-00256535-00256829 world so I thought it would be nice you HNQyqybfI4o-00344-00256830-00257081 could hear a little from him today HNQyqybfI4o-00345-00257082-00259477 okay HNQyqybfI4o-00346-00259478-00259925 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00347-00259926-00261092 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00348-00261092-00261444 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00349-00261446-00262063 we have the house HNQyqybfI4o-00350-00262064-00263360 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00351-00263361-00264030 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00352-00264031-00265045 I'm here HNQyqybfI4o-00353-00265046-00267325 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00354-00267326-00267810 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00355-00267811-00268382 thank you HNQyqybfI4o-00356-00268383-00268729 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00357-00268730-00269405 mother sure HNQyqybfI4o-00358-00269406-00269999 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00359-00270000-00270632 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00360-00270633-00272554 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00361-00272555-00274073 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00362-00274074-00274951 oceans HNQyqybfI4o-00363-00274952-00275237 here in the ocean HNQyqybfI4o-00364-00275238-00275599 so we had very difficult time just HNQyqybfI4o-00365-00275600-00276005 floating in the ocean of Devastation but HNQyqybfI4o-00366-00276006-00276395 my good fortune he came to this place HNQyqybfI4o-00367-00276396-00278060 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00368-00278061-00278734 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00369-00278735-00279169 foreign HNQyqybfI4o-00370-00279170-00280680 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00371-00280681-00281853 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00372-00281854-00282532 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00373-00282533-00282853 thank you very much HNQyqybfI4o-00374-00282854-00283139 I said there's so much to say but time HNQyqybfI4o-00375-00283140-00283397 does not permit we have to go for HNQyqybfI4o-00376-00283398-00283895 breakfast HNQyqybfI4o-00377-00283896-00284045 every HNQyqybfI4o-00378-00284046-00285143 place HNQyqybfI4o-00379-00285144-00285479 yeah if you like it also please try to HNQyqybfI4o-00380-00285480-00285799 when you come and hurry on HNQyqybfI4o-00381-00285800-00286282 donations everywhere HNQyqybfI4o-00382-00286283-00286397 here HNQyqybfI4o-00383-00286398-00286937 is HNQyqybfI4o-00384-00286938-00288397 um HNQyqybfI4o-00385-00288398-00288737 don't give the donations HNQyqybfI4o-00386-00288738-00288979 not good HNQyqybfI4o-00387-00288980-00289355 so I encourage everyone HNQyqybfI4o-00388-00289356-00289565 come on paragrama but give some HNQyqybfI4o-00389-00289566-00289739 contributions everywhere give some HNQyqybfI4o-00390-00289740-00291625 donations HNQyqybfI4o-00391-00291626-00291841 thank you manage HNQyqybfI4o-00392-00291842-00292175 now we'll hear from amberish Maharaj is HNQyqybfI4o-00393-00292176-00292480 going to tell us about the Temple of HNQyqybfI4o-00394-00292481-00292721 Hamsa Bahan which we passed on the way HNQyqybfI4o-00395-00292722-00292892 here HNQyqybfI4o-00396-00292893-00293651 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00397-00293652-00293855 now we'll hear a couple changes Swami HNQyqybfI4o-00398-00293856-00293961 Maharaj HNQyqybfI4o-00399-00293962-00294095 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00400-00294096-00294317 coffee chandrama is going to speak to us HNQyqybfI4o-00401-00294318-00294451 about HNQyqybfI4o-00402-00294452-00294665 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00403-00294666-00294958 huh it's a rabbit kunch HNQyqybfI4o-00404-00294959-00295660 room tree HNQyqybfI4o-00405-00295661-00296171 anyway HNQyqybfI4o-00406-00296172-00296453 all right so now we're going to have HNQyqybfI4o-00407-00296454-00296608 drama HNQyqybfI4o-00408-00296609-00296867 today the drama is going to be done by HNQyqybfI4o-00409-00296868-00297553 the Delhi yatra HNQyqybfI4o-00410-00297554-00297869 so welcome all the devotees on our HNQyqybfI4o-00411-00297870-00298156 second leopardy grammar we're still in HNQyqybfI4o-00412-00298157-00298403 courtroom do it because we've come to HNQyqybfI4o-00413-00298404-00298879 the place of harihar chitra HNQyqybfI4o-00414-00298880-00299273 we would requested the bodies HNQyqybfI4o-00415-00299274-00299482 please try HNQyqybfI4o-00416-00299483-00299903 be careful you know this is HNQyqybfI4o-00417-00299904-00300306 India Vedic culture we're representing HNQyqybfI4o-00418-00300307-00301273 the vaishnava etiquette HNQyqybfI4o-00419-00301274-00301434 so HNQyqybfI4o-00420-00301435-00301903 it's important for us to show proper HNQyqybfI4o-00421-00301904-00302293 organization and it's important HNQyqybfI4o-00422-00302294-00302873 man with the men ladies with the ladies HNQyqybfI4o-00423-00302874-00303130 dive is walking along the park in the HNQyqybfI4o-00424-00303131-00303401 paragrama and I noticed ladies coming HNQyqybfI4o-00425-00303402-00303701 forward very fast HNQyqybfI4o-00426-00303702-00303899 to get to the front HNQyqybfI4o-00427-00303900-00304163 it's not very good HNQyqybfI4o-00428-00304164-00304427 the lady should stay with the ladies you HNQyqybfI4o-00429-00304428-00304691 don't have to rush to the front to be in HNQyqybfI4o-00430-00304692-00304825 the front HNQyqybfI4o-00431-00304826-00305206 and similarly when we sit here we should HNQyqybfI4o-00432-00305207-00305573 sit ladies one side and then the other HNQyqybfI4o-00433-00305574-00306204 side HNQyqybfI4o-00434-00306205-00306634 so troubles telling me right side is HNQyqybfI4o-00435-00306635-00306810 ladies HNQyqybfI4o-00436-00306811-00307108 for the men HNQyqybfI4o-00437-00307109-00307415 so try to remember these days HNQyqybfI4o-00438-00307416-00307997 try to remember when we want to show HNQyqybfI4o-00439-00307998-00308393 to the local people that we have organ HNQyqybfI4o-00440-00308394-00308632 that we are organized and that we HNQyqybfI4o-00441-00308633-00308963 behaved in the proper land HNQyqybfI4o-00442-00308964-00309227 these ladies HNQyqybfI4o-00443-00309228-00309479 try to remember HNQyqybfI4o-00444-00309480-00310127 men also of course for both of us HNQyqybfI4o-00445-00310128-00310306 all right so we're going to have a HNQyqybfI4o-00446-00310307-00310543 couple of speakers here HNQyqybfI4o-00447-00310544-00312937 first you hear Trump HNQyqybfI4o-00448-00312938-00313306 he's originally from Philippines he HNQyqybfI4o-00449-00313307-00313475 joined the Krishna Consciousness HNQyqybfI4o-00450-00313476-00313882 movement in Canada and he came to India HNQyqybfI4o-00451-00313883-00314219 to take up HNQyqybfI4o-00452-00314220-00314477 service and nutritional Consciousness HNQyqybfI4o-00453-00314478-00314758 movie what is going to tell us something HNQyqybfI4o-00454-00314759-00314879 about HNQyqybfI4o-00455-00314880-00315071 Lord Shiva here HNQyqybfI4o-00456-00315072-00315547 technology HNQyqybfI4o-00457-00315548-00316339 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00458-00316340-00316667 thank you Maharaja HNQyqybfI4o-00459-00316668-00316806 so HNQyqybfI4o-00460-00316807-00317134 this Temple here you can see it has been HNQyqybfI4o-00461-00317135-00317549 renovated by the charity trust which was HNQyqybfI4o-00462-00317550-00317934 set up HNQyqybfI4o-00463-00317935-00318389 the party from the world he requested to HNQyqybfI4o-00464-00318390-00318827 set up one uh charity trust which would HNQyqybfI4o-00465-00318828-00319258 Aid the different temples in this area HNQyqybfI4o-00466-00319259-00319480 of goromando labumi HNQyqybfI4o-00467-00319481-00319901 so this particular Temple here is this HNQyqybfI4o-00468-00319902-00320153 Temple was in it was in very poor HNQyqybfI4o-00469-00320154-00320554 condition before our charity trust came HNQyqybfI4o-00470-00320555-00320884 along and gave substantial help to HNQyqybfI4o-00471-00320885-00321167 renovate and construct this expression HNQyqybfI4o-00472-00321168-00321334 place HNQyqybfI4o-00473-00321335-00321695 one is this is one of the many places in HNQyqybfI4o-00474-00321696-00321787 this HNQyqybfI4o-00475-00321788-00322145 which have been greatly benefited by the HNQyqybfI4o-00476-00322146-00322565 bhaktividanta Swami charity Trust HNQyqybfI4o-00477-00322566-00322793 so now we're going to hear from this HNQyqybfI4o-00478-00322794-00323484 Holiness coming Maharaja HNQyqybfI4o-00479-00323485-00323825 you'll also see on the altar there's uh HNQyqybfI4o-00480-00323826-00324023 caitanya Mark who's going to love his HNQyqybfI4o-00481-00324024-00324121 feet HNQyqybfI4o-00482-00324122-00324377 from Gaia HNQyqybfI4o-00483-00324378-00324516 h HNQyqybfI4o-00485-00327655-00328597 they're one and different HNQyqybfI4o-00486-00328598-00329004 [Music] HNQyqybfI4o-00487-00329005-00329315 Lord Shiva are so intimately connected HNQyqybfI4o-00488-00329316-00329645 Lord Shiva is so dear to Lord Vishnu HNQyqybfI4o-00489-00329646-00329971 because Lord Shiva takes on such HNQyqybfI4o-00490-00329972-00330191 difficult times HNQyqybfI4o-00491-00330192-00330521 in delivering people in the mode of HNQyqybfI4o-00492-00330522-00330641 ignorance HNQyqybfI4o-00493-00330642-00330880 and giving Mercy to the most Fallen HNQyqybfI4o-00494-00330881-00331229 people so he is very very 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