Kp_NwUcbSPM-00000-00000006-00000214 what's up guys in this video we're going Kp_NwUcbSPM-00001-00000215-00000473 to talk about what actually ux design is Kp_NwUcbSPM-00002-00000474-00000743 and what it's like to be a ux designer Kp_NwUcbSPM-00003-00000744-00001270 let's go Kp_NwUcbSPM-00004-00001271-00001457 before we get started my name is Anthony Kp_NwUcbSPM-00005-00001458-00001648 Conboy and I've been a professional ux Kp_NwUcbSPM-00006-00001650-00001859 designer for 15 years I've worked some Kp_NwUcbSPM-00007-00001860-00002039 of the world's biggest companies and I Kp_NwUcbSPM-00008-00002039-00002152 hope some of the stuff I'm going to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00009-00002153-00002368 share to you now is useful so let's take Kp_NwUcbSPM-00010-00002369-00002567 a look at the board this is ux in the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00011-00002568-00002741 middle let's talk about actually what ux Kp_NwUcbSPM-00012-00002742-00003017 design is and there's three circles here Kp_NwUcbSPM-00013-00003018-00003221 so the first one is we want to make Kp_NwUcbSPM-00014-00003222-00003436 something that's useful Kp_NwUcbSPM-00015-00003438-00003706 that's really important then we want to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00016-00003707-00003953 make something that's actually desirable Kp_NwUcbSPM-00017-00003954-00004222 so we want people to desires of it and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00018-00004223-00004367 usable Kp_NwUcbSPM-00019-00004368-00004583 so you exit to the center of this but Kp_NwUcbSPM-00020-00004584-00004804 what exactly is ux design so I'm going Kp_NwUcbSPM-00021-00004805-00004972 to give you a practical example now Kp_NwUcbSPM-00022-00004973-00005099 we'll go through what it's like to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00023-00005100-00005435 design e-commerce website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00024-00005436-00005609 okay so let's start with our Ecom Kp_NwUcbSPM-00025-00005610-00005806 website I'm going to draw a big circle Kp_NwUcbSPM-00026-00005807-00006118 and this represents a user's experience Kp_NwUcbSPM-00027-00006119-00006377 I'm going on this website so think about Kp_NwUcbSPM-00028-00006378-00006695 this is ux here so think about new X as Kp_NwUcbSPM-00029-00006695-00006983 the whole process so within that user Kp_NwUcbSPM-00030-00006984-00007175 who comes to the website what do they Kp_NwUcbSPM-00031-00007176-00007391 see well first of all they might see Kp_NwUcbSPM-00032-00007392-00007684 some images Kp_NwUcbSPM-00033-00007686-00008033 so good good product Photography they Kp_NwUcbSPM-00034-00008034-00008392 might have UI which is the user Kp_NwUcbSPM-00035-00008393-00008645 interface so this is um the look and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00036-00008646-00008837 feel of the website or the app then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00037-00008838-00009035 there's also other sections about this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00038-00009036-00009305 so they might have the actual experience Kp_NwUcbSPM-00039-00009306-00009623 of a checkout then there's the content Kp_NwUcbSPM-00040-00009624-00009778 on the website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00041-00009779-00009953 and then there's other things like the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00042-00009954-00010151 actual interaction Kp_NwUcbSPM-00043-00010152-00010517 animation stuff like that so ux it Kp_NwUcbSPM-00044-00010518-00010685 compassizes everything Kp_NwUcbSPM-00045-00010686-00010841 there's all these little sections this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00046-00010842-00010967 is what people actually get a bit Kp_NwUcbSPM-00047-00010968-00011183 confused about ux so ux already actually Kp_NwUcbSPM-00048-00011184-00011399 insists so any website or an app you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00049-00011400-00011635 already have a ux and it's not about Kp_NwUcbSPM-00050-00011636-00011945 designing a ux to say it's about Kp_NwUcbSPM-00051-00011946-00012178 improving things to make sure that the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00052-00012179-00012305 person who comes to the website their Kp_NwUcbSPM-00053-00012306-00012473 user experience is as good as possible Kp_NwUcbSPM-00054-00012474-00012670 so let's take a look at some good Kp_NwUcbSPM-00055-00012671-00012869 examples of ux Kp_NwUcbSPM-00056-00012869-00013066 let's take a look at an example of a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00057-00013067-00013301 home page for the e-commerce website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00058-00013302-00013541 so we've got our page Kp_NwUcbSPM-00059-00013541-00013835 at the cup we've got a navigation bar Kp_NwUcbSPM-00060-00013836-00013979 so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00061-00013980-00014219 then we've got some labels and we've got Kp_NwUcbSPM-00062-00014219-00014566 a search so a big part in ux is making Kp_NwUcbSPM-00063-00014568-00014783 sure that the information architecture Kp_NwUcbSPM-00064-00014784-00014933 on the website which is basically how Kp_NwUcbSPM-00065-00014934-00015119 things are organized at a range is good Kp_NwUcbSPM-00066-00015119-00015305 so making sure Kp_NwUcbSPM-00067-00015306-00015586 all of the labels here are clearly Kp_NwUcbSPM-00068-00015587-00015791 defined it's simple language and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00069-00015791-00015994 understandable that's a really important Kp_NwUcbSPM-00070-00015995-00016319 experience then we've got search so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00071-00016319-00016553 search is a big part of a website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00072-00016554-00016733 um having the clear and predominant and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00073-00016734-00016889 making sure that experience is really Kp_NwUcbSPM-00074-00016890-00017417 good so we also have images of a big Kp_NwUcbSPM-00075-00017418-00017639 part of the website making sure that the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00076-00017640-00017872 products are clear in the images it's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00077-00017873-00018071 not confusing it's very simple Kp_NwUcbSPM-00078-00018072-00018377 then we'll have some descriptions so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00079-00018378-00018521 it's making sure the descriptions Kp_NwUcbSPM-00080-00018522-00018743 clearly indicate we don't want any Kp_NwUcbSPM-00081-00018744-00018917 surprises or the products actually are Kp_NwUcbSPM-00082-00018918-00019229 and then what we want is Big call to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00083-00019230-00019414 actions and we want we want the user Kp_NwUcbSPM-00084-00019415-00019619 basically to know what happens when they Kp_NwUcbSPM-00085-00019620-00019847 click that button Kp_NwUcbSPM-00086-00019848-00020008 so this is an example of a product Kp_NwUcbSPM-00087-00020009-00020236 detail page so we've still got our Kp_NwUcbSPM-00088-00020237-00020603 navigation then we've got Kp_NwUcbSPM-00089-00020604-00020872 images Kp_NwUcbSPM-00090-00020873-00021197 reading weld on high quality images then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00091-00021198-00021413 we'll have some sort of title Kp_NwUcbSPM-00092-00021414-00021772 a description and big clear call to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00093-00021773-00022061 action which is like at tabasca and then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00094-00022062-00022258 underneath here we want things that are Kp_NwUcbSPM-00095-00022259-00022499 useful to the users which might be uh Kp_NwUcbSPM-00096-00022500-00022714 there might be some reviews Kp_NwUcbSPM-00097-00022715-00022936 then we might also have a bit of Kp_NwUcbSPM-00098-00022937-00023189 information like different sizes small Kp_NwUcbSPM-00099-00023190-00023422 medium large Kp_NwUcbSPM-00100-00023423-00023680 a very simple structure for a website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00101-00023681-00023885 but has all the elements that are really Kp_NwUcbSPM-00102-00023886-00024083 useful for a user now we'll take a look Kp_NwUcbSPM-00103-00024084-00024197 at what happens when someone actually Kp_NwUcbSPM-00104-00024198-00024394 adds something to cart and I'll show you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00105-00024395-00024725 a good example of a ux Kp_NwUcbSPM-00106-00024726-00024917 Amazon's a really good example of a good Kp_NwUcbSPM-00107-00024918-00025139 checkout experience so this split the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00108-00025140-00025355 page up into three sections so the first Kp_NwUcbSPM-00109-00025356-00025687 thing is uh Kp_NwUcbSPM-00110-00025688-00026027 delivery info then this is where you do Kp_NwUcbSPM-00111-00026027-00026273 your payment and then at the bottom is Kp_NwUcbSPM-00112-00026274-00026681 basically where you review everything Kp_NwUcbSPM-00113-00026682-00026837 it's nice and simple and they've also Kp_NwUcbSPM-00114-00026838-00027023 got one of the most amazing experiences Kp_NwUcbSPM-00115-00027024-00027323 in ux which is the one click buy so this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00116-00027324-00027605 button here which is a basically a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00117-00027606-00027835 confirmation they've brought that button Kp_NwUcbSPM-00118-00027836-00028127 earlier in the cycle to the actual page Kp_NwUcbSPM-00119-00028127-00028307 where the product description is so you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00120-00028308-00028433 don't need to add some from the basket Kp_NwUcbSPM-00121-00028433-00028601 you can purchase it straight from there Kp_NwUcbSPM-00122-00028602-00028787 it's very addictive and it's one of the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00123-00028788-00028943 best bitsy user experience to actually Kp_NwUcbSPM-00124-00028944-00029255 increase revenue for the website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00125-00029256-00029507 so the reason why ux is so powerful for Kp_NwUcbSPM-00126-00029508-00029723 companies like Amazon or the e-commerce Kp_NwUcbSPM-00127-00029724-00030058 website is basically they make an easy Kp_NwUcbSPM-00128-00030060-00030364 process for the user to penetr something Kp_NwUcbSPM-00129-00030366-00030707 and this creates a really really happy Kp_NwUcbSPM-00130-00030708-00030899 Customer because it was nice and easy Kp_NwUcbSPM-00131-00030900-00031120 this then leads back into revenue for Kp_NwUcbSPM-00132-00031122-00031283 the company because they retain to the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00133-00031283-00031523 product they making things simple but as Kp_NwUcbSPM-00134-00031524-00031745 easy as possible is a brilliant way to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00135-00031745-00031985 attract great customers now let's take a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00136-00031986-00032302 look at a bad user experience Kp_NwUcbSPM-00137-00032303-00032477 so that's just an example we've got our Kp_NwUcbSPM-00138-00032477-00032627 customer here Kp_NwUcbSPM-00139-00032627-00032945 for this let's call her Meg so Meg wants Kp_NwUcbSPM-00140-00032946-00033059 to go through a different e-commerce Kp_NwUcbSPM-00141-00033060-00033161 website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00142-00033162-00033443 so she logs in and she tries to find Kp_NwUcbSPM-00143-00033444-00033617 what she wants to buy so she looks at Kp_NwUcbSPM-00144-00033618-00033767 all the items and then she decides to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00145-00033768-00033983 add something to a cart so she's found Kp_NwUcbSPM-00146-00033984-00034129 what she's looking for Kp_NwUcbSPM-00147-00034130-00034385 Shadows but then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00148-00034386-00034799 then asks her to make a new profile Kp_NwUcbSPM-00149-00034800-00035074 so there's no log out as guests oh no Kp_NwUcbSPM-00150-00035075-00035249 check out his guest but you have to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00151-00035250-00035405 create a profile Kp_NwUcbSPM-00152-00035406-00035639 so Meg goes through all this he feels in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00153-00035640-00035777 the form she creates a profile that's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00154-00035778-00035993 fine so there's no log out with Google Kp_NwUcbSPM-00155-00035994-00036131 or anything like that she has to create Kp_NwUcbSPM-00156-00036132-00036383 a form on this website but then once Kp_NwUcbSPM-00157-00036384-00036599 she's created the new profile Kp_NwUcbSPM-00158-00036600-00036827 her basket empty so there's nothing in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00159-00036828-00037096 it so washing added then before it gets Kp_NwUcbSPM-00160-00037097-00037277 for going about during this journey so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00161-00037278-00037487 now she has to go back and then she Kp_NwUcbSPM-00162-00037488-00037661 finds her item again Kp_NwUcbSPM-00163-00037662-00037846 she didn't answer to a card but while Kp_NwUcbSPM-00164-00037847-00038039 she's adding the tour card she gets a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00165-00038040-00038218 big pop-up here Kp_NwUcbSPM-00166-00038219-00038543 which is like 50 off all the offers for Kp_NwUcbSPM-00167-00038544-00038740 the website with a tiny small cross Kp_NwUcbSPM-00168-00038741-00038873 button in the corner which you can't Kp_NwUcbSPM-00169-00038874-00039112 find so once she removes that see the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00170-00039113-00039365 skin bombarded advertisements on the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00171-00039366-00039557 website and distract them from the whole Kp_NwUcbSPM-00172-00039558-00039743 process she then gets fed up with all of Kp_NwUcbSPM-00173-00039744-00039905 this and wants to contact us but then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00174-00039906-00040180 gets taken to a 404 page which is a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00175-00040181-00040402 broken website then she just gets fed up Kp_NwUcbSPM-00176-00040403-00040612 and decides to leave the journey so you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00177-00040613-00040762 can see how different that is from Kp_NwUcbSPM-00178-00040763-00040979 Amazon there's so many steps involved Kp_NwUcbSPM-00179-00040980-00041195 here Amazon everything was really nice Kp_NwUcbSPM-00180-00041196-00041452 this one lost the sale Amazon gained the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00181-00041453-00041621 sale and that's the power of good and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00182-00041622-00041837 bad ux Kp_NwUcbSPM-00183-00041838-00041999 so let's take a look at the ux design Kp_NwUcbSPM-00184-00042000-00042287 process now and an example of what you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00185-00042288-00042502 might do day to day so let's still stick Kp_NwUcbSPM-00186-00042503-00042761 with this e-commerce website and let's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00187-00042762-00042959 take a look at okay our job is now to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00188-00042960-00043145 redefine about user experience on the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00189-00043146-00043324 bad e-commerce website to make it better Kp_NwUcbSPM-00190-00043325-00043612 so the ux design process is split up Kp_NwUcbSPM-00191-00043613-00043780 into five stages and you'll see this on Kp_NwUcbSPM-00192-00043781-00043918 the internet Kp_NwUcbSPM-00193-00043919-00044152 um on each stage basically you can do Kp_NwUcbSPM-00194-00044153-00044351 different things in the ux designer so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00195-00044352-00044507 let's start with the first stage which Kp_NwUcbSPM-00196-00044508-00044746 is Define so before we start we need to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00197-00044747-00044908 know what exactly we're doing in the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00198-00044909-00045095 project so we need to talk to the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00199-00045096-00045305 business and find out what they want and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00200-00045306-00045557 their job is okay make the sale make Kp_NwUcbSPM-00201-00045558-00045773 this the sales process better but we Kp_NwUcbSPM-00202-00045774-00045995 need to know actually does that mean um Kp_NwUcbSPM-00203-00045996-00046145 have they got enough traffic coming to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00204-00046146-00046277 the website so they'll need to improve Kp_NwUcbSPM-00205-00046278-00046523 the advertisement or is it that the the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00206-00046524-00046715 users are falling off a certain point in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00207-00046716-00046901 the journey so we need Kp_NwUcbSPM-00208-00046902-00047087 kind of something solid to go by and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00209-00047088-00047177 because this is what we're going to be Kp_NwUcbSPM-00210-00047178-00047399 judged later on so for this example Kp_NwUcbSPM-00211-00047400-00047555 they've got plenty of traffic coming to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00212-00047556-00047795 the website but their purchases aren't Kp_NwUcbSPM-00213-00047796-00048005 as big as they want them to make aren't Kp_NwUcbSPM-00214-00048006-00048137 as good as they want them to make okay Kp_NwUcbSPM-00215-00048138-00048268 so that's our problem Kp_NwUcbSPM-00216-00048269-00048473 then the next thing we need to do is we Kp_NwUcbSPM-00217-00048474-00048640 need to understand why this problem is Kp_NwUcbSPM-00218-00048641-00048923 happening and this is a this is kind of Kp_NwUcbSPM-00219-00048924-00049073 like the user research phase of the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00220-00049074-00049349 project so this is quite uh it's kind of Kp_NwUcbSPM-00221-00049350-00049529 quite fun as a designer so this is where Kp_NwUcbSPM-00222-00049530-00049667 you get to have your thinking hat on and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00223-00049668-00049871 you get to actually so you want to meet Kp_NwUcbSPM-00224-00049872-00050146 with customers so you you can meet them Kp_NwUcbSPM-00225-00050147-00050315 in person that's great Kp_NwUcbSPM-00226-00050316-00050495 you want to talk about Kp_NwUcbSPM-00227-00050496-00050705 um their problems with the process some Kp_NwUcbSPM-00228-00050706-00050849 big companies have in-house testing Kp_NwUcbSPM-00229-00050850-00051089 facilities so when I was in Barclays Kp_NwUcbSPM-00230-00051090-00051263 there are these rooms where they've got Kp_NwUcbSPM-00231-00051264-00051526 customers in the customers they get paid Kp_NwUcbSPM-00232-00051527-00051713 for the time and then you get to ask Kp_NwUcbSPM-00233-00051714-00051875 them questions and sit behind if a glass Kp_NwUcbSPM-00234-00051876-00052120 wall is kind of like in like a police Kp_NwUcbSPM-00235-00052121-00052408 interrogation above them is a lot nicer Kp_NwUcbSPM-00236-00052409-00052685 that's quite fun so you can do that Kp_NwUcbSPM-00237-00052686-00052954 one-on-one you can do um it's called Kp_NwUcbSPM-00238-00052955-00053159 infographic research where you follow Kp_NwUcbSPM-00239-00053160-00053350 people around in real life and you You Kp_NwUcbSPM-00240-00053351-00053525 observe them using Kp_NwUcbSPM-00241-00053526-00053741 the website for the app and actual Kp_NwUcbSPM-00242-00053741-00053854 day-to-day Kp_NwUcbSPM-00243-00053855-00054094 um real life situations or you can do Kp_NwUcbSPM-00244-00054095-00054299 surveys and get quantitative data with Kp_NwUcbSPM-00245-00054300-00054563 lots of people and you kind of just Kp_NwUcbSPM-00246-00054564-00054832 understanding the problems so with this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00247-00054833-00055097 website we know that the checkout anyway Kp_NwUcbSPM-00248-00055098-00055241 still wasn't good we added it to a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00249-00055241-00055409 basket it dropped off we have to create Kp_NwUcbSPM-00250-00055410-00055666 a new profile and we were bombarded by Kp_NwUcbSPM-00251-00055667-00055835 ads so we understand that by go through Kp_NwUcbSPM-00252-00055836-00055966 the Journey ourselves and by talking to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00253-00055967-00056237 customers then the next stage is the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00254-00056238-00056542 design phase so this um this has loads Kp_NwUcbSPM-00255-00056544-00056704 of different steps in it so we might Kp_NwUcbSPM-00256-00056705-00056999 start out by doing rough sketches so we Kp_NwUcbSPM-00257-00057000-00057238 might um sketch it sketch a New Journey Kp_NwUcbSPM-00258-00057239-00057419 but we might do this in a workshop where Kp_NwUcbSPM-00259-00057420-00057616 we'll get people from the business we Kp_NwUcbSPM-00260-00057617-00057785 might get some users in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00261-00057786-00058019 and as a designer it's quite important Kp_NwUcbSPM-00262-00058020-00058253 to facilitate workshops so that's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00263-00058254-00058403 something I'm going to learn to do as Kp_NwUcbSPM-00264-00058404-00058571 your career progresses but you'll you'll Kp_NwUcbSPM-00265-00058572-00058763 actually you might sketch out the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00266-00058764-00058865 website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00267-00058866-00059050 and then from there because sketching's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00268-00059051-00059279 so easy and you can scribble off it Kp_NwUcbSPM-00269-00059279-00059459 doesn't cost that much and you get the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00270-00059460-00059644 people from the business involved so you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00271-00059645-00059765 kind of know your head in the right Kp_NwUcbSPM-00272-00059766-00059963 direction before you even really get Kp_NwUcbSPM-00273-00059964-00060100 rolled that's what I've kind of learned Kp_NwUcbSPM-00274-00060101-00060341 from my career then you'll take those Kp_NwUcbSPM-00275-00060341-00060521 low Fidelity sketches and turn them into Kp_NwUcbSPM-00276-00060522-00060841 wireframes then you can prototype Kp_NwUcbSPM-00277-00060841-00061121 prototype them in websites applications Kp_NwUcbSPM-00278-00061122-00061444 like figma or sketch or adobe XD figma's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00279-00061445-00061547 the one that everyone's using at the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00280-00061548-00061691 moment so it's just been bought by Adobe Kp_NwUcbSPM-00281-00061691-00062003 it's really good so you'll create um a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00282-00062004-00062242 wireframe in that and you'll then test Kp_NwUcbSPM-00283-00062244-00062423 up with um Kp_NwUcbSPM-00284-00062424-00062585 you'll test that with the audience so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00285-00062586-00062807 you'll get people there and you'll if Kp_NwUcbSPM-00286-00062808-00063004 you can use a test in a line you can Kp_NwUcbSPM-00287-00063005-00063149 send people prototypes ask them Kp_NwUcbSPM-00288-00063150-00063413 questions like do this checkup process Kp_NwUcbSPM-00289-00063414-00063599 then you'll go back and you'll make Kp_NwUcbSPM-00290-00063600-00063785 changes and you can make a high fidelity Kp_NwUcbSPM-00291-00063786-00064007 version of it so you'll make it look and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00292-00064008-00064199 feel like the real website you basically Kp_NwUcbSPM-00293-00064200-00064361 go back and forth back and forth back Kp_NwUcbSPM-00294-00064362-00064463 and forth until you've got something Kp_NwUcbSPM-00295-00064464-00064637 which you're actually quite confident in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00296-00064638-00064811 and then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00297-00064812-00064979 there's kind of a step in before Kp_NwUcbSPM-00298-00064979-00065141 analysis which I'm going to say and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00299-00065141-00065375 develop so it's really important to work Kp_NwUcbSPM-00300-00065376-00065669 with it let's just plug that in Dev so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00301-00065670-00065897 one of the key jobs New Harvest the ux Kp_NwUcbSPM-00302-00065898-00066047 designer is to work with the development Kp_NwUcbSPM-00303-00066048-00066244 team so this might actually be the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00304-00066245-00066437 majority of the year because projects Kp_NwUcbSPM-00305-00066438-00066767 take a long time to design and develop Kp_NwUcbSPM-00306-00066768-00067031 uh you work the development team to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00307-00067032-00067241 basically you want to hand your plans to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00308-00067242-00067481 them and they'll make it in front-end Kp_NwUcbSPM-00309-00067482-00067781 tours hate in our CSS JavaScript Kp_NwUcbSPM-00310-00067782-00068135 and they need to basically you're an Kp_NwUcbSPM-00311-00068136-00068303 architect and you're giving them as good Kp_NwUcbSPM-00312-00068304-00068494 a plans as they could possibly have Kp_NwUcbSPM-00313-00068495-00068687 so that could be a prototype but you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00314-00068688-00068813 also want to work one-on-one with them Kp_NwUcbSPM-00315-00068814-00068975 and make sure they understand the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00316-00068976-00069185 nuances of the design and then that will Kp_NwUcbSPM-00317-00069186-00069467 get developed and released and then uh Kp_NwUcbSPM-00318-00069468-00069694 one of the key things that people don't Kp_NwUcbSPM-00319-00069695-00069881 realize in your exercise is to analyze Kp_NwUcbSPM-00320-00069882-00070037 what you've done so you want to make Kp_NwUcbSPM-00321-00070038-00070229 sure that okay actually this is Kp_NwUcbSPM-00322-00070230-00070438 performing how we want it so okay we're Kp_NwUcbSPM-00323-00070439-00070594 getting just as many users coming to the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00324-00070595-00070859 website and our conversion rate's gone Kp_NwUcbSPM-00325-00070860-00071009 up so we're making the company more Kp_NwUcbSPM-00326-00071010-00071338 money but then you can then kind of lift Kp_NwUcbSPM-00327-00071339-00071579 this back around so from the analysis we Kp_NwUcbSPM-00328-00071580-00071729 might learn a couple of things so we Kp_NwUcbSPM-00329-00071730-00071909 might see okay we've we've done this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00330-00071910-00072113 we've done really good apart from on Kp_NwUcbSPM-00331-00072114-00072293 this one page we're losing all right the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00332-00072294-00072515 checkout final page we're losing a lot Kp_NwUcbSPM-00333-00072516-00072665 more people than we should so you'll Kp_NwUcbSPM-00334-00072666-00072821 take our fine then go back into the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00335-00072822-00073085 Define stage and then you can understand Kp_NwUcbSPM-00336-00073086-00073337 on the new design why people are falling Kp_NwUcbSPM-00337-00073338-00073481 off on that page and then go through the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00338-00073482-00073750 process again so as you can see this my Kp_NwUcbSPM-00339-00073751-00073967 this whole process might take a year Kp_NwUcbSPM-00340-00073968-00074213 so during the first couple of months of Kp_NwUcbSPM-00341-00074214-00074344 the year you'll be doing different jobs Kp_NwUcbSPM-00342-00074345-00074519 than you would been later on when it Kp_NwUcbSPM-00343-00074520-00074723 might come more design and development Kp_NwUcbSPM-00344-00074724-00074885 and it's quite fun because you get to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00345-00074886-00074999 wear different hat to see your ex Kp_NwUcbSPM-00346-00075000-00075256 designer and following this process the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00347-00075257-00075550 new day is actually the same Kp_NwUcbSPM-00348-00075551-00075682 so you're probably watching this video Kp_NwUcbSPM-00349-00075683-00075935 interested in becoming a ux designer I Kp_NwUcbSPM-00350-00075936-00076037 just want to give you a quick overview Kp_NwUcbSPM-00351-00076038-00076259 of what your ux career path might be Kp_NwUcbSPM-00352-00076260-00076456 like which is which is interesting and I Kp_NwUcbSPM-00353-00076457-00076559 wish I would have known this when I Kp_NwUcbSPM-00354-00076560-00076871 started so here you are as a student Kp_NwUcbSPM-00355-00076872-00077093 uh what are you thinking about changing Kp_NwUcbSPM-00356-00077094-00077305 career then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00357-00077306-00077519 the first job is always the hardest Kp_NwUcbSPM-00358-00077520-00077719 actually so you want to get a junior Kp_NwUcbSPM-00359-00077720-00077932 designer role Kp_NwUcbSPM-00360-00077933-00078131 and to get this role you're going to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00361-00078132-00078400 need a portfolio of projects so you'll Kp_NwUcbSPM-00362-00078401-00078599 need three to five case studies which is Kp_NwUcbSPM-00363-00078600-00078826 where you might redesign an app redesign Kp_NwUcbSPM-00364-00078827-00079043 a website or make a brand new one from Kp_NwUcbSPM-00365-00079044-00079373 scratch and this is the hardest path so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00366-00079374-00079582 this is where I might be able to help Kp_NwUcbSPM-00367-00079583-00079750 you if you check out the link in the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00368-00079751-00079991 description Anthony conway.com I've got Kp_NwUcbSPM-00369-00079992-00080194 a course where I basically take you from Kp_NwUcbSPM-00370-00080195-00080537 a student to a junior Dev so we create Kp_NwUcbSPM-00371-00080538-00080699 projects together we put them in a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00372-00080700-00080812 portfolio Kp_NwUcbSPM-00373-00080813-00080981 and then I teach you about the US design Kp_NwUcbSPM-00374-00080982-00081209 process career paths like this and then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00375-00081210-00081431 I get you interview ready so you'll have Kp_NwUcbSPM-00376-00081432-00081581 the confidence to take this portfolio Kp_NwUcbSPM-00377-00081582-00081743 into an interview Kp_NwUcbSPM-00378-00081744-00081947 then once you get the studio designer Kp_NwUcbSPM-00379-00081948-00082211 roll you can then progress you become a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00380-00082212-00082547 mid designer senior designer Kp_NwUcbSPM-00381-00082548-00082843 and as for the salaries you can expect Kp_NwUcbSPM-00382-00082844-00083182 my first Junior role was about 30k in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00383-00083183-00083344 the UK obviously this depends on what Kp_NwUcbSPM-00384-00083345-00083500 country you're in it might be slightly Kp_NwUcbSPM-00385-00083501-00083782 more now but it depends that was in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00386-00083783-00083897 London might be signing left in Kp_NwUcbSPM-00387-00083898-00084106 different places obviously in California Kp_NwUcbSPM-00388-00084107-00084221 it's going to be higher than other Kp_NwUcbSPM-00389-00084222-00084400 places but then you might go and you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00390-00084401-00084685 might go 30 35 Kp_NwUcbSPM-00391-00084686-00085043 40K then you've got a decision to make Kp_NwUcbSPM-00392-00085044-00085288 so the big decision is is whether you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00393-00085289-00085582 want to continue in as a designer as an Kp_NwUcbSPM-00394-00085583-00085703 individual designer or whether you want Kp_NwUcbSPM-00395-00085704-00085919 to become a manager so this is where it Kp_NwUcbSPM-00396-00085920-00086081 Forks off Kp_NwUcbSPM-00397-00086082-00086321 now as you see on the example before the Kp_NwUcbSPM-00398-00086322-00086555 e-commerce website kind of the whole Kp_NwUcbSPM-00399-00086556-00086812 digital industry Works in projects kind Kp_NwUcbSPM-00400-00086813-00087094 of unique to digital so there's two ways Kp_NwUcbSPM-00401-00087095-00087467 you can go one is to become a contractor Kp_NwUcbSPM-00402-00087468-00087605 well the other one is to become a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00403-00087606-00087715 permanent Kp_NwUcbSPM-00404-00087716-00088061 employee and this is so you're you're a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00405-00088062-00088337 senior Dev so going down the pen roll Kp_NwUcbSPM-00406-00088338-00088559 this is where you then start to lead Kp_NwUcbSPM-00407-00088560-00088871 teams so this is where you're a manager Kp_NwUcbSPM-00408-00088872-00089165 and then you can you know you can earn Kp_NwUcbSPM-00409-00089166-00089356 you can earn a hunger kind above and Kp_NwUcbSPM-00410-00089357-00089459 that's where you're actually going to be Kp_NwUcbSPM-00411-00089460-00089632 looking after a festival a small team Kp_NwUcbSPM-00412-00089633-00089891 with three or four designers and then Kp_NwUcbSPM-00413-00089892-00090161 you might need a global team of like a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00414-00090162-00090353 50 or 60 designers Kp_NwUcbSPM-00415-00090354-00090562 bought your actual day job will become Kp_NwUcbSPM-00416-00090563-00090893 more management and less Hands-On design Kp_NwUcbSPM-00417-00090894-00091253 so the other Road the other room you can Kp_NwUcbSPM-00418-00091254-00091409 go is to become a contractor and that's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00419-00091410-00091612 what I saw I've done both so you can Kp_NwUcbSPM-00420-00091613-00091738 work on my contract there and that's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00421-00091739-00091894 where you might go into a big company Kp_NwUcbSPM-00422-00091895-00092159 and you might be given a year contract Kp_NwUcbSPM-00423-00092160-00092476 so that will be Design This e-commerce Kp_NwUcbSPM-00424-00092477-00092597 website Kp_NwUcbSPM-00425-00092598-00092891 you get paid on a day rate so you might Kp_NwUcbSPM-00426-00092892-00093232 um you might earn 500 a day this could Kp_NwUcbSPM-00427-00093233-00093467 go up to a thousand dollars depending on Kp_NwUcbSPM-00428-00093468-00093665 your experience Kp_NwUcbSPM-00429-00093666-00093844 um and you'll be in that company for a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00430-00093845-00093971 year and then you'll leave and you'll Kp_NwUcbSPM-00431-00093972-00094097 probably go to another company or it Kp_NwUcbSPM-00432-00094098-00094282 might get extended so there's actually Kp_NwUcbSPM-00433-00094283-00094625 more financial gain in this side but I'm Kp_NwUcbSPM-00434-00094626-00094955 not there are downsides to it as well so Kp_NwUcbSPM-00435-00094956-00095123 I've had contracts canceled on me Kp_NwUcbSPM-00436-00095124-00095321 basically the day before I went there's Kp_NwUcbSPM-00437-00095322-00095506 no stability kind of not great with a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00438-00095507-00095812 family because there might be uh so this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00439-00095813-00095987 one you might have Kp_NwUcbSPM-00440-00095988-00096268 free month notice one month notice this Kp_NwUcbSPM-00441-00096269-00096538 one could be two weeks or or even a week Kp_NwUcbSPM-00442-00096539-00096767 and companies Kp_NwUcbSPM-00443-00096768-00097067 are more likely to cancel big projects Kp_NwUcbSPM-00444-00097068-00097282 and move you on so there's no stability Kp_NwUcbSPM-00445-00097283-00097444 after a year you've then going to apply Kp_NwUcbSPM-00446-00097445-00097594 and get another job it might take you Kp_NwUcbSPM-00447-00097595-00097847 three to five months to get it but if Kp_NwUcbSPM-00448-00097848-00098026 you're good and you become good for any Kp_NwUcbSPM-00449-00098027-00098255 green you have a good portfolio Kp_NwUcbSPM-00450-00098256-00098399 you can make more money becoming a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00451-00098400-00098662 contractor but if you want to have a Kp_NwUcbSPM-00452-00098663-00098800 long term relationship with a company Kp_NwUcbSPM-00453-00098801-00098987 you can go down the payment and with Kp_NwUcbSPM-00454-00098988-00099191 some become a manager Kp_NwUcbSPM-00455-00099192-00099382 I hope this overview has given you kind Kp_NwUcbSPM-00456-00099383-00099544 of an exciting glimpse of the becoming Kp_NwUcbSPM-00457-00099545-00099712 the ux designer if you want to learn Kp_NwUcbSPM-00458-00099713-00099850 more watch the next video I'm going to Kp_NwUcbSPM-00459-00099851-00100012 go over the ux design process step by Kp_NwUcbSPM-00460-00100013-00100466 step Infinity so let's go KPkFYZaFbEY-00000-00000788-00001150 we got about oh hi sorry we're a little KPkFYZaFbEY-00001-00001151-00001966 bit late hey Bob big fast sorry man KPkFYZaFbEY-00002-00001967-00002189 welcome to culture in decline my name is KPkFYZaFbEY-00003-00002190-00002441 Peter Joseph you know this shows KPkFYZaFbEY-00004-00002442-00002570 designed for those that want to be a KPkFYZaFbEY-00005-00002571-00002725 little more skeptical about society KPkFYZaFbEY-00006-00002726-00002968 because perhaps you're like me and as KPkFYZaFbEY-00007-00002969-00003151 you stumble around this experiment we KPkFYZaFbEY-00008-00003152-00003395 call global society you can't help but KPkFYZaFbEY-00009-00003396-00003560 feel an increasing sense of unease KPkFYZaFbEY-00010-00003561-00003809 perhaps even frustration with respect to KPkFYZaFbEY-00011-00003810-00004034 how we the human family have chosen to KPkFYZaFbEY-00012-00004035-00004254 organize ourselves on this little planet KPkFYZaFbEY-00013-00004255-00004495 the latest stronger and well-known KPkFYZaFbEY-00014-00004496-00004670 advocate of scientific thought Carl KPkFYZaFbEY-00015-00004671-00005029 Sagan is famed PBS series cosmos once KPkFYZaFbEY-00016-00005030-00005216 invited the question if we were visited KPkFYZaFbEY-00017-00005217-00005420 by a superior species from another part KPkFYZaFbEY-00018-00005421-00005647 of the galaxy forced to explain to them KPkFYZaFbEY-00019-00005648-00005893 our stewardship of our planet not to KPkFYZaFbEY-00020-00005894-00006050 mention the state of human affairs today KPkFYZaFbEY-00021-00006051-00006303 would we be proud of what we described KPkFYZaFbEY-00022-00006304-00006592 how would we frame our explanation of KPkFYZaFbEY-00023-00006593-00006800 how almost half of the world over 3 KPkFYZaFbEY-00024-00006801-00006980 billion people are either barely KPkFYZaFbEY-00025-00006981-00007163 surviving an abject poverty and sickness KPkFYZaFbEY-00026-00007164-00007523 or are simply dying off unnecessarily at KPkFYZaFbEY-00027-00007523-00007739 a rate of about one person every couple KPkFYZaFbEY-00028-00007740-00007939 of seconds all occurring in the wake of KPkFYZaFbEY-00029-00007940-00008221 an advanced technological reality but we KPkFYZaFbEY-00030-00008222-00008435 could easily feed clothe and house every KPkFYZaFbEY-00031-00008436-00008606 family on earth in a respectable KPkFYZaFbEY-00032-00008607-00008764 standard of living KPkFYZaFbEY-00033-00008765-00009216 how would we frame the global warfare KPkFYZaFbEY-00034-00009217-00009511 230 million killed by their fellow man KPkFYZaFbEY-00035-00009512-00009751 in the past 100 years alone based on KPkFYZaFbEY-00036-00009752-00009909 what meaningless territoriality KPkFYZaFbEY-00037-00009910-00010248 resources dogmatic obsolete ideologies KPkFYZaFbEY-00038-00010249-00010561 hmm again this all occurring in the KPkFYZaFbEY-00039-00010562-00010801 shadows of a looming scientific KPkFYZaFbEY-00040-00010802-00011062 recognition that we are indeed simply KPkFYZaFbEY-00041-00011063-00011359 one family sharing one household bound KPkFYZaFbEY-00042-00011360-00011557 by the exact same laws of nature and KPkFYZaFbEY-00043-00011558-00011782 hence the same unifying operational KPkFYZaFbEY-00044-00011783-00012154 ideology how about our economic system KPkFYZaFbEY-00045-00012155-00012373 the bedrock of what defines our society KPkFYZaFbEY-00046-00012374-00012598 not to mention our dominant motivations KPkFYZaFbEY-00047-00012599-00012829 how would we explain the reality that KPkFYZaFbEY-00048-00012830-00012943 rather than organizing ourselves KPkFYZaFbEY-00049-00012944-00013188 efficiently as a single system to KPkFYZaFbEY-00050-00013190-00013396 properly manage this household we share KPkFYZaFbEY-00051-00013397-00013687 we childishly divide and compete and KPkFYZaFbEY-00052-00013688-00013912 exploit each other through an archaic KPkFYZaFbEY-00053-00013913-00014071 completely environmentally decoupled KPkFYZaFbEY-00054-00014072-00014368 game a game by the way which not only KPkFYZaFbEY-00055-00014369-00014622 appears to perpetuate a vast spectrum of KPkFYZaFbEY-00056-00014624-00014938 social atrocities but now seems to be KPkFYZaFbEY-00057-00014938-00015211 further destabilizing society decreasing KPkFYZaFbEY-00058-00015212-00015718 our public health sorry to say as an KPkFYZaFbEY-00059-00015719-00015874 individual I really don't care what you KPkFYZaFbEY-00060-00015875-00016054 believe nor do I particularly respect it KPkFYZaFbEY-00061-00016055-00016282 why because I don't really respect what KPkFYZaFbEY-00062-00016283-00016531 I believe either there's no evidence to KPkFYZaFbEY-00063-00016532-00016746 show that any of the traditional values KPkFYZaFbEY-00064-00016747-00016947 establishments or social structures KPkFYZaFbEY-00065-00016948-00017206 common practices we have today will be KPkFYZaFbEY-00066-00017207-00017443 relevant tomorrow the only thing that KPkFYZaFbEY-00067-00017444-00017629 appears to stand the test of time is KPkFYZaFbEY-00068-00017630-00017827 this very notion of change the KPkFYZaFbEY-00069-00017828-00018025 ever-evolving understanding of ourselves KPkFYZaFbEY-00070-00018026-00018361 and the world we inhabit perhaps some KPkFYZaFbEY-00071-00018362-00018475 might think that that's actually the KPkFYZaFbEY-00072-00018476-00018625 definition of human intelligence but you KPkFYZaFbEY-00073-00018626-00018829 think about that less about what we know KPkFYZaFbEY-00074-00018830-00019174 more about how vulnerable we are so when KPkFYZaFbEY-00075-00019175-00019342 you look out your window ask yourself do KPkFYZaFbEY-00076-00019343-00019516 you see intelligence or do you see dog KPkFYZaFbEY-00077-00019517-00019722 do you see a culture listening and KPkFYZaFbEY-00078-00019723-00019897 working to realign itself with the ever KPkFYZaFbEY-00079-00019898-00020143 emerging natural orders as they unfold KPkFYZaFbEY-00080-00020144-00020400 or do you see desperately stubborn KPkFYZaFbEY-00081-00020401-00020605 efforts by many particularly those in KPkFYZaFbEY-00082-00020606-00020821 positions of power trying to keep KPkFYZaFbEY-00083-00020822-00021022 everything the same to the detriment of KPkFYZaFbEY-00084-00021023-00021349 the entire human experiment you know KPkFYZaFbEY-00085-00021350-00021691 like you I might be only one member of KPkFYZaFbEY-00086-00021692-00021868 this family that is now seven billion KPkFYZaFbEY-00087-00021869-00022117 strong and like most families yeah KPkFYZaFbEY-00088-00022118-00022353 sometimes it's hard for us to agree but KPkFYZaFbEY-00089-00022354-00022605 sometimes things get so bad we need KPkFYZaFbEY-00090-00022606-00022875 serious intervention the following KPkFYZaFbEY-00091-00022876-00023103 series is that intervention in the hope KPkFYZaFbEY-00092-00023104-00023367 to salvage what is clearly a culture in KPkFYZaFbEY-00094-00026400-00026599 it's an election year in the United KPkFYZaFbEY-00095-00026600-00026755 States and some may say it's an election KPkFYZaFbEY-00096-00026756-00026943 year for the whole world still the KPkFYZaFbEY-00097-00026944-00027090 dominant Empire the United States KPkFYZaFbEY-00098-00027091-00027298 political system is spent roughly 25 KPkFYZaFbEY-00099-00027299-00027502 billion dollars in the past decade alone KPkFYZaFbEY-00100-00027502-00027774 an amount of money if averaged and KPkFYZaFbEY-00101-00027775-00028036 distributed annually could house and KPkFYZaFbEY-00102-00028037-00028252 feed every homeless person in America KPkFYZaFbEY-00103-00028252-00028539 effectively ending the epidemic perhaps KPkFYZaFbEY-00104-00028540-00028662 like me by the end of this program KPkFYZaFbEY-00105-00028663-00028861 you'll find that money will be better KPkFYZaFbEY-00106-00028862-00028942 well-spent KPkFYZaFbEY-00107-00028943-00029242 be that as it may the 2012 presidential KPkFYZaFbEY-00108-00029243-00029401 election is gearing up to be one of the KPkFYZaFbEY-00109-00029402-00029571 most expensive and abstence ibly KPkFYZaFbEY-00110-00029572-00029868 important elections of all time given KPkFYZaFbEY-00111-00029869-00030010 the ongoing debt crisis the unemployment KPkFYZaFbEY-00112-00030011-00030283 crisis and the vast destabilization we KPkFYZaFbEY-00113-00030283-00030537 see across society however I'm not KPkFYZaFbEY-00114-00030538-00030714 particularly interested in the left or KPkFYZaFbEY-00115-00030715-00030852 the right or on my understanding KPkFYZaFbEY-00116-00030853-00031164 candidates political merit what I'm KPkFYZaFbEY-00117-00031165-00031464 interested in is the entire idea of KPkFYZaFbEY-00118-00031464-00031752 global democracy in the tradition as it KPkFYZaFbEY-00119-00031753-00032014 exists and how it is blindly accepted by KPkFYZaFbEY-00120-00032014-00032152 the vast majority of people on this KPkFYZaFbEY-00121-00032152-00032410 planet as being the only option to KPkFYZaFbEY-00122-00032411-00032623 satisfy their interests and create good KPkFYZaFbEY-00123-00032624-00032827 well-being and hence societal management KPkFYZaFbEY-00124-00032828-00033024 in its optimum state that's what KPkFYZaFbEY-00125-00033025-00033310 interests me so rather than debate about KPkFYZaFbEY-00126-00033311-00033514 who should be the next president why KPkFYZaFbEY-00127-00033515-00033679 don't we step back and consider some KPkFYZaFbEY-00128-00033680-00033945 broader issues such as oh I don't know KPkFYZaFbEY-00129-00033946-00034158 maybe why we even have a president to KPkFYZaFbEY-00130-00034159-00034339 begin with what is this medieval KPkFYZaFbEY-00131-00034340-00034870 feudalism I thought the days of Kings KPkFYZaFbEY-00132-00034871-00035133 dictators and giving one person enormous KPkFYZaFbEY-00133-00035134-00035437 power was coming to an end or more KPkFYZaFbEY-00134-00035438-00035599 generally doesn't it seem a little KPkFYZaFbEY-00135-00035600-00035749 absurd to claim a participatory KPkFYZaFbEY-00136-00035750-00036027 democracy when the public itself KPkFYZaFbEY-00137-00036028-00036349 actually has zero say when it comes to KPkFYZaFbEY-00138-00036350-00036532 the actual decisions made by those KPkFYZaFbEY-00139-00036533-00036751 elected it's bad enough that those voted KPkFYZaFbEY-00140-00036752-00036990 in have literally no legal KPkFYZaFbEY-00141-00036991-00037239 responsibility to do anything they might KPkFYZaFbEY-00142-00037240-00037420 have claimed on the campaign trail but KPkFYZaFbEY-00143-00037421-00037677 if you examine history you will find the KPkFYZaFbEY-00144-00037678-00037933 historical fact that the public good has KPkFYZaFbEY-00145-00037934-00038187 always been secondary to other interests KPkFYZaFbEY-00146-00038188-00038508 mainly financial and business interests KPkFYZaFbEY-00147-00038509-00038802 of course this is common knowledge now KPkFYZaFbEY-00148-00038803-00038868 right KPkFYZaFbEY-00149-00038869-00039061 I mean why did the US government KPkFYZaFbEY-00150-00039062-00039252 completely against all known public KPkFYZaFbEY-00151-00039253-00039465 interest allow the private banking KPkFYZaFbEY-00152-00039466-00039580 system a KPkFYZaFbEY-00153-00039581-00039820 system which actually creates nothing to KPkFYZaFbEY-00154-00039821-00040078 be bailed out to the tune of 13 trillion KPkFYZaFbEY-00155-00040079-00040265 dollars you have a 14 million dollar KPkFYZaFbEY-00156-00040266-00040480 oceanfront home in Florida you have a KPkFYZaFbEY-00157-00040481-00040675 summer vacation home in Sun Valley Idaho KPkFYZaFbEY-00158-00040676-00040855 you and your wife have an art collection KPkFYZaFbEY-00159-00040856-00041044 filled with million-dollar paintings KPkFYZaFbEY-00160-00041045-00041251 while the public was left out to dry KPkFYZaFbEY-00161-00041252-00041542 with overflowing private debt job losses KPkFYZaFbEY-00162-00041543-00041815 and a stagnating economy you know if KPkFYZaFbEY-00163-00041816-00041944 we're going to persist with this silly KPkFYZaFbEY-00164-00041945-00042139 little game we've concocted called the KPkFYZaFbEY-00165-00042140-00042355 growth economy where the movement of KPkFYZaFbEY-00166-00042356-00042649 money defines everything it might be a KPkFYZaFbEY-00167-00042650-00042837 good idea to do the math regarding what KPkFYZaFbEY-00168-00042838-00043081 might actually help this economic system KPkFYZaFbEY-00169-00043082-00043345 operate at some passable level therefore KPkFYZaFbEY-00170-00043346-00043821 if you raise taxes on the so-called rich KPkFYZaFbEY-00171-00043822-00044170 you're really raising taxes on the job KPkFYZaFbEY-00172-00044171-00044443 creators and if the goal is KPkFYZaFbEY-00173-00044444-00044625 private-sector growth KPkFYZaFbEY-00174-00044626-00044914 you got to recognize that the best way KPkFYZaFbEY-00175-00044915-00045058 to create that growth is to leave KPkFYZaFbEY-00176-00045059-00045433 capital in the Treasuries of the job KPkFYZaFbEY-00177-00045434-00045709 creators if that money spent on the bank KPkFYZaFbEY-00178-00045710-00045996 bailout was spent on say relieving KPkFYZaFbEY-00179-00045997-00046290 private household debt instead while KPkFYZaFbEY-00180-00046291-00046564 letting Goldman Sachs JP Morgan and all KPkFYZaFbEY-00181-00046565-00046715 of the other technically meaningless KPkFYZaFbEY-00182-00046716-00047014 non-producing financial institutions KPkFYZaFbEY-00183-00047015-00047194 experience the failure and bankruptcy KPkFYZaFbEY-00184-00047195-00047452 they deserved simultaneously KPkFYZaFbEY-00185-00047453-00047698 nationalizing the entire US banking KPkFYZaFbEY-00186-00047699-00047959 system as a whole the US economy might KPkFYZaFbEY-00187-00047960-00048049 have had a chance KPkFYZaFbEY-00188-00048050-00048313 why because banks don't actually KPkFYZaFbEY-00189-00048314-00048631 contribute anything people with jobs do KPkFYZaFbEY-00190-00048632-00048852 you want growth in this type of system KPkFYZaFbEY-00191-00048853-00049105 you need jobs you want jobs you need KPkFYZaFbEY-00192-00049106-00049365 demand and demand requires people having KPkFYZaFbEY-00193-00049366-00049594 free money to spend so by helping the KPkFYZaFbEY-00194-00049595-00049789 public debt burden you would plant the KPkFYZaFbEY-00195-00049790-00050071 true seeds of economic growth well of KPkFYZaFbEY-00196-00050072-00050236 course as obvious as that may seem KPkFYZaFbEY-00197-00050237-00050536 many forget one thing the bailout had KPkFYZaFbEY-00198-00050537-00050692 nothing to do with helping the US KPkFYZaFbEY-00199-00050693-00050962 economy nor does it or will it work to KPkFYZaFbEY-00200-00050963-00051232 help any hurting sovereign economy in KPkFYZaFbEY-00201-00051233-00051523 the world why because we live in a KPkFYZaFbEY-00202-00051524-00051864 plutocracy not a democracy and the only KPkFYZaFbEY-00203-00051865-00052080 true power is actually behind the KPkFYZaFbEY-00204-00052082-00052387 curtain not in front the financial and KPkFYZaFbEY-00205-00052388-00052561 business powers not only owned and KPkFYZaFbEY-00206-00052562-00052753 controlled this country they own and KPkFYZaFbEY-00207-00052754-00052894 control the whole planet KPkFYZaFbEY-00208-00052895-00053197 and no it's not a conspiracy it's a KPkFYZaFbEY-00209-00053198-00053451 value system disorder as long as a KPkFYZaFbEY-00210-00053452-00053694 dollar sign is associated with every KPkFYZaFbEY-00211-00053695-00053979 blade of grass every plot of land every KPkFYZaFbEY-00212-00053980-00054223 fleeting thought or invention not to KPkFYZaFbEY-00213-00054224-00054424 mention judging the merit of individuals KPkFYZaFbEY-00214-00054425-00054673 for their right to life through labor we KPkFYZaFbEY-00215-00054674-00054916 should expect nothing less since the KPkFYZaFbEY-00216-00054916-00055096 inception of the state itself coupled KPkFYZaFbEY-00217-00055097-00055366 with the underlying power of money as KPkFYZaFbEY-00218-00055366-00055600 the ultimate driver of human decisions KPkFYZaFbEY-00219-00055601-00055729 and hence persuasion KPkFYZaFbEY-00220-00055729-00055962 the true power has always been financial KPkFYZaFbEY-00221-00055963-00056296 and those little people you elect into KPkFYZaFbEY-00222-00056297-00056503 office every couple of years they have KPkFYZaFbEY-00223-00056504-00056792 owners too and don't you forget it KPkFYZaFbEY-00224-00056794-00056955 democracy is that's something you KPkFYZaFbEY-00225-00056957-00057138 believe in as it exists today in America KPkFYZaFbEY-00226-00057139-00057337 what would you say is in believing as it KPkFYZaFbEY-00227-00057338-00057646 exists like forest fires or God or the KPkFYZaFbEY-00228-00057647-00057816 devil what is your opinion of the KPkFYZaFbEY-00229-00057817-00058048 American democratic system as it exists KPkFYZaFbEY-00230-00058049-00058309 it's broken it's deeply deeply broken KPkFYZaFbEY-00231-00058310-00058504 democracy goes of course to the Greece KPkFYZaFbEY-00232-00058504-00058759 and it's that there that the people own KPkFYZaFbEY-00233-00058760-00059059 the government and is it in practice KPkFYZaFbEY-00234-00059060-00059256 happening in 2012 in this country not KPkFYZaFbEY-00235-00059257-00059550 close it's a corporate ah cracy so all KPkFYZaFbEY-00236-00059551-00059716 of this considered let's now think a KPkFYZaFbEY-00237-00059716-00059890 little more accurately about this whole KPkFYZaFbEY-00238-00059891-00060175 democracy deal since the tradition of KPkFYZaFbEY-00239-00060176-00060316 our democracy has to do with KPkFYZaFbEY-00240-00060316-00060543 representatives elected to apparently do KPkFYZaFbEY-00241-00060544-00060763 our thinking for us a critical question KPkFYZaFbEY-00242-00060764-00060997 becomes where do these people come from KPkFYZaFbEY-00243-00060998-00061281 why are they the ones on your TV and not KPkFYZaFbEY-00244-00061282-00061546 others did you decide that these people KPkFYZaFbEY-00245-00061547-00061759 are the best choices to compete for such KPkFYZaFbEY-00246-00061760-00062053 critical leadership or have you noticed KPkFYZaFbEY-00247-00062054-00062238 that the most pronounced candidates KPkFYZaFbEY-00248-00062239-00062509 especially the presidential sort of come KPkFYZaFbEY-00249-00062510-00062710 out of nowhere and through the media are KPkFYZaFbEY-00250-00062711-00062979 given credence merely by repetition of KPkFYZaFbEY-00251-00062980-00063330 exposure the term democracy comes from KPkFYZaFbEY-00252-00063331-00063567 the Greek demos which means people and KPkFYZaFbEY-00253-00063569-00063871 kuratas which means rule and so the KPkFYZaFbEY-00254-00063872-00064068 people of a given society express their KPkFYZaFbEY-00255-00064069-00064329 opinions through votes and policy is KPkFYZaFbEY-00256-00064330-00064504 created by the majority's interest KPkFYZaFbEY-00257-00064504-00064741 it appears the process was formalized in KPkFYZaFbEY-00258-00064741-00064944 ancient Greece and has been adapting KPkFYZaFbEY-00259-00064945-00065226 ever since however it didn't take long KPkFYZaFbEY-00260-00065227-00065473 for a bit of cynicism to emerge with KPkFYZaFbEY-00261-00065474-00065718 respect to the process itself given the KPkFYZaFbEY-00262-00065719-00065893 fact that the entire basis of the idea KPkFYZaFbEY-00263-00065894-00066155 assumes that the voting public actually KPkFYZaFbEY-00264-00066156-00066307 is edge KPkFYZaFbEY-00265-00066308-00066504 kated enough to know what they're doing KPkFYZaFbEY-00266-00066505-00066819 Franklin D Roosevelt once acutely stated KPkFYZaFbEY-00267-00066820-00067061 democracy cannot succeed unless those KPkFYZaFbEY-00268-00067062-00067282 who express their choice are prepared to KPkFYZaFbEY-00269-00067283-00067373 choose wisely KPkFYZaFbEY-00270-00067374-00067567 the real safeguard of democracy KPkFYZaFbEY-00271-00067568-00067888 therefore is education Winston Churchill KPkFYZaFbEY-00272-00067889-00068038 on the other hand was a little less KPkFYZaFbEY-00273-00068039-00068303 forgiving stating the best argument KPkFYZaFbEY-00274-00068304-00068459 against democracy is a five-minute KPkFYZaFbEY-00275-00068460-00068686 conversation with the average voter and KPkFYZaFbEY-00276-00068687-00068954 of course the infamous Mark Twain jumped KPkFYZaFbEY-00277-00068955-00069181 to the inevitable punchline stating if KPkFYZaFbEY-00278-00069182-00069404 voting made any difference they wouldn't KPkFYZaFbEY-00279-00069405-00069698 let us do it I would like you to ask KPkFYZaFbEY-00280-00069699-00069976 yourself if we were in the ruling class KPkFYZaFbEY-00281-00069977-00070223 the investment ownership class to KPkFYZaFbEY-00282-00070224-00070474 paraphrase Thorstein Veblen and we KPkFYZaFbEY-00283-00070475-00070723 wanted to preserve our interests against KPkFYZaFbEY-00284-00070724-00071092 any interference what would we do well KPkFYZaFbEY-00285-00071093-00071269 first we need to take the broadest KPkFYZaFbEY-00286-00071270-00071648 possible view we can we need to make KPkFYZaFbEY-00287-00071649-00071863 sure the voting public is as uninformed KPkFYZaFbEY-00288-00071864-00072116 as possible regarding relevant issues KPkFYZaFbEY-00289-00072117-00072274 that might contradict our establishments KPkFYZaFbEY-00290-00072275-00072787 practices coupled with that we also need KPkFYZaFbEY-00291-00072788-00073032 to eliminate as much independent logical KPkFYZaFbEY-00292-00073033-00073466 causal scientific thought as possible so KPkFYZaFbEY-00293-00073467-00073685 let's support an extremely underfunded KPkFYZaFbEY-00294-00073686-00073957 outdated and deprived public educational KPkFYZaFbEY-00295-00073958-00074251 system a system focused on merely KPkFYZaFbEY-00296-00074252-00074597 getting a person a job one day not teach KPkFYZaFbEY-00297-00074598-00074753 them how to critically and logically KPkFYZaFbEY-00298-00074754-00074968 think the heart of democracy really is KPkFYZaFbEY-00299-00074969-00075175 the basic assumption that the public is KPkFYZaFbEY-00300-00075176-00075349 well educated about critical thought KPkFYZaFbEY-00301-00075350-00075491 they know how to think about things and KPkFYZaFbEY-00302-00075492-00075631 evaluate and therefore they can make KPkFYZaFbEY-00303-00075632-00075844 proper decisions right what is your KPkFYZaFbEY-00304-00075845-00076036 opinion on American education and it's KPkFYZaFbEY-00305-00076037-00076172 hence its effect on the democratic KPkFYZaFbEY-00306-00076173-00076588 process I think that you know we have KPkFYZaFbEY-00307-00076589-00076772 multiple problems in the education in KPkFYZaFbEY-00308-00076773-00076912 America one I think we're dealing with KPkFYZaFbEY-00309-00076913-00077092 the dumbing down of America and do you KPkFYZaFbEY-00310-00077093-00077323 feel that this sort of poor educational KPkFYZaFbEY-00311-00077324-00077455 system actually benefits the KPkFYZaFbEY-00312-00077456-00077692 establishment oh absolutely absolutely KPkFYZaFbEY-00313-00077693-00077881 keep them stupid keep them easily KPkFYZaFbEY-00314-00077882-00078088 entertained if they're uninformed they KPkFYZaFbEY-00315-00078089-00078442 can't fight back however to further KPkFYZaFbEY-00316-00078443-00078746 reinforce this we also need to push and KPkFYZaFbEY-00317-00078747-00079010 reward belief systems that support KPkFYZaFbEY-00318-00079011-00079328 passive obedience belief systems and KPkFYZaFbEY-00319-00079329-00079594 values that are stubborn irrational and KPkFYZaFbEY-00320-00079595-00079644 from KPkFYZaFbEY-00321-00079645-00080004 closed thinking religion becomes super KPkFYZaFbEY-00322-00080005-00080163 helpful in this circumstance is it KPkFYZaFbEY-00323-00080164-00080370 possible that religion is being KPkFYZaFbEY-00324-00080371-00080556 politicized and that candidates are KPkFYZaFbEY-00325-00080557-00080958 using it as a tool I believe that God KPkFYZaFbEY-00326-00080959-00081138 created the universe and we're enjoined KPkFYZaFbEY-00327-00081139-00081339 by Scripture and the Lord Jesus to KPkFYZaFbEY-00328-00081340-00081498 oppose it with all our might KPkFYZaFbEY-00329-00081499-00081738 let us not pray that God is on our side KPkFYZaFbEY-00330-00081739-00082038 in a war or any other time but let us KPkFYZaFbEY-00331-00082039-00082296 pray that we are on God's side may God KPkFYZaFbEY-00332-00082297-00082503 bless the seventh-day Adventist Church KPkFYZaFbEY-00333-00082504-00082797 I think the God who loves us the God who KPkFYZaFbEY-00334-00082798-00083073 gave us life who gave us our being and KPkFYZaFbEY-00335-00083074-00083316 so to every sailor soldier airman and KPkFYZaFbEY-00336-00083317-00083511 marine he was involved in this mission KPkFYZaFbEY-00337-00083512-00083790 let me say you're doing God's work if KPkFYZaFbEY-00338-00083791-00084039 people are groomed to be obedient and KPkFYZaFbEY-00339-00084040-00084378 follow blindly they are ripe to extend KPkFYZaFbEY-00340-00084379-00084546 that obedience to others who claim KPkFYZaFbEY-00341-00084547-00084882 Authority check next it's critical we KPkFYZaFbEY-00342-00084883-00085116 recognize a unique sociological KPkFYZaFbEY-00343-00085117-00085259 characteristic of the human condition KPkFYZaFbEY-00344-00085260-00085590 something we will call herd psychology KPkFYZaFbEY-00345-00085591-00085863 this is the tendency for us humans when KPkFYZaFbEY-00346-00085864-00086109 faced with mass appeal to often behave KPkFYZaFbEY-00347-00086110-00086292 in extremely thoughtless and malleable KPkFYZaFbEY-00348-00086293-00086562 ways in the words of Charles Mackay KPkFYZaFbEY-00349-00086563-00086838 famed author of extraordinary popular KPkFYZaFbEY-00350-00086839-00087159 delusions and the madness of crowds men KPkFYZaFbEY-00351-00087160-00087480 it has been said thinkin herds it will KPkFYZaFbEY-00352-00087481-00087741 be seen that they go mad in herds while KPkFYZaFbEY-00353-00087742-00087930 they only recover their senses slowly KPkFYZaFbEY-00354-00087931-00088308 and one by one however this doesn't just KPkFYZaFbEY-00355-00088309-00088773 apply to say a soccer riot such mob KPkFYZaFbEY-00356-00088774-00088962 persuasion can be generated through KPkFYZaFbEY-00357-00088963-00089265 simply shared cultural events remember KPkFYZaFbEY-00358-00089266-00089538 September 11th talk about mass insanity KPkFYZaFbEY-00359-00089539-00089877 this event created an immediate crowd KPkFYZaFbEY-00360-00089878-00090171 madness with fear and revenge and it KPkFYZaFbEY-00361-00090172-00090369 didn't take long for the US government KPkFYZaFbEY-00362-00090370-00090600 and other governments in fact to harness KPkFYZaFbEY-00363-00090601-00090789 that madness and funnel support for KPkFYZaFbEY-00364-00090790-00091005 draconian legislation and illegal KPkFYZaFbEY-00365-00091006-00091077 invasions KPkFYZaFbEY-00366-00091078-00091308 however this heard psychological KPkFYZaFbEY-00367-00091309-00091554 tendency is not only very useful for KPkFYZaFbEY-00368-00091555-00091782 implanting and guiding perceived issues KPkFYZaFbEY-00369-00091783-00092010 of importance it is also critical in KPkFYZaFbEY-00370-00092011-00092325 setting rigid limits of debate creating KPkFYZaFbEY-00371-00092326-00092478 the tendency for those who begin to KPkFYZaFbEY-00372-00092479-00092691 question beyond those limits to be KPkFYZaFbEY-00373-00092692-00093036 ostracized and rejected by the herd it's KPkFYZaFbEY-00374-00093037-00093264 you know if someone talks about a more KPkFYZaFbEY-00375-00093265-00093510 equitable distribution of income in KPkFYZaFbEY-00376-00093511-00093750 society all the growth that has occurred KPkFYZaFbEY-00377-00093751-00094023 in our country over the last decade or KPkFYZaFbEY-00378-00094024-00094478 more has gone to the upper 1 2% KPkFYZaFbEY-00379-00094479-00094731 communists if someone speculates about KPkFYZaFbEY-00380-00094732-00094941 the obvious power manipulation and KPkFYZaFbEY-00381-00094942-00095193 corruption goddamn it I am so sick of KPkFYZaFbEY-00382-00095194-00095373 these conspiracy theorists and their KPkFYZaFbEY-00383-00095374-00095601 lives the Federal Reserve does not KPkFYZaFbEY-00384-00095602-00095805 collude for its own self-interest and KPkFYZaFbEY-00385-00095806-00096042 heaven forbid we get those do-gooders KPkFYZaFbEY-00386-00096043-00096213 who want to actually apply modern KPkFYZaFbEY-00387-00096214-00096498 scientific knowledge and improve society KPkFYZaFbEY-00388-00096499-00096846 with it yeah right feed clothe and house KPkFYZaFbEY-00389-00096847-00097040 everybody on earth with technology KPkFYZaFbEY-00390-00097041-00097620 utopian jackasses remember probably the KPkFYZaFbEY-00391-00097621-00097854 greatest way to control human thought is KPkFYZaFbEY-00392-00097855-00098103 to establish a deep fear of social KPkFYZaFbEY-00393-00098104-00098376 rejection and associate that fear to KPkFYZaFbEY-00394-00098377-00098838 culturally taboo subjects so that KPkFYZaFbEY-00395-00098839-00099078 groundwork in motion we now have to deal KPkFYZaFbEY-00396-00099079-00099309 with the pesky problem that the public KPkFYZaFbEY-00397-00099310-00099594 just might wise up enough and work to KPkFYZaFbEY-00398-00099595-00099759 maneuver a person into political power KPkFYZaFbEY-00399-00099760-00100056 that will cause us problems therefore KPkFYZaFbEY-00400-00100057-00100287 some more specific structural safeguards KPkFYZaFbEY-00401-00100288-00100623 are in order basically we need to make KPkFYZaFbEY-00402-00100624-00100890 sure those unwanted candidates are KPkFYZaFbEY-00403-00100891-00101130 unable to get anywhere near the major KPkFYZaFbEY-00404-00101131-00101388 outlets for public digestion and if they KPkFYZaFbEY-00405-00101389-00101571 do the practice is to treat them like KPkFYZaFbEY-00406-00101572-00101811 freaks you're suggesting the heroine in KPkFYZaFbEY-00407-00101812-00102003 prostitution there are an exercise of KPkFYZaFbEY-00408-00102004-00102273 lever dates when you're inferring is you KPkFYZaFbEY-00409-00102274-00102536 know what if we legalize heroin tomorrow KPkFYZaFbEY-00410-00102538-00102794 everybody's going to use heroin how many KPkFYZaFbEY-00411-00102795-00102996 people here would use heroin food legal KPkFYZaFbEY-00412-00102997-00103310 how do we do that with money and our KPkFYZaFbEY-00413-00103311-00103614 corporate constituency has plenty we KPkFYZaFbEY-00414-00103615-00103791 just need to make sure the use of this KPkFYZaFbEY-00415-00103792-00104018 money for political influence goes KPkFYZaFbEY-00416-00104019-00104456 uninhibited in a US Supreme Court 1976 KPkFYZaFbEY-00417-00104457-00104667 decision the freedom for a candidate to KPkFYZaFbEY-00418-00104668-00104928 use unlimited personal money for their KPkFYZaFbEY-00419-00104929-00105168 campaign was deemed legal equating KPkFYZaFbEY-00420-00105169-00105333 spending money with the right of free KPkFYZaFbEY-00421-00105333-00105426 speech in KPkFYZaFbEY-00422-00105427-00105702 fact what this translates to in effect KPkFYZaFbEY-00423-00105703-00105981 is the removal of any regulated fairness KPkFYZaFbEY-00424-00105982-00106227 of expression and hence whoever has the KPkFYZaFbEY-00425-00106228-00106479 most money has the most resources and KPkFYZaFbEY-00426-00106480-00106893 hence effect perfect however let's KPkFYZaFbEY-00427-00106894-00107111 secure this a little bit farther let's KPkFYZaFbEY-00428-00107113-00107328 also make sure that our corporations are KPkFYZaFbEY-00429-00107329-00107526 given the legal right to promote our KPkFYZaFbEY-00430-00107527-00107748 little puppets without limit luckily in KPkFYZaFbEY-00431-00107749-00108059 2010 our pals again at the US Supreme KPkFYZaFbEY-00432-00108060-00108324 Court confirmed that the government may KPkFYZaFbEY-00433-00108325-00108567 not restrict political spending by any KPkFYZaFbEY-00434-00108568-00108807 corporation in candidate elections as KPkFYZaFbEY-00435-00108808-00109071 they are once again protected by the KPkFYZaFbEY-00436-00109072-00109428 First Amendment so now we can buy mad ad KPkFYZaFbEY-00437-00109429-00109671 space to promote whoever we want as much KPkFYZaFbEY-00438-00109672-00109929 as we want drowning the Opposition in KPkFYZaFbEY-00439-00109930-00110406 the media and double check okay now KPkFYZaFbEY-00440-00110407-00110589 those broad measures in place it is KPkFYZaFbEY-00441-00110590-00110754 still important to control the basic KPkFYZaFbEY-00442-00110755-00111066 unfolding of the electoral process from KPkFYZaFbEY-00443-00111067-00111308 start to finish the best way to do this KPkFYZaFbEY-00444-00111309-00111582 is to create a false duality the KPkFYZaFbEY-00445-00111583-00111780 illusion of competition between parties KPkFYZaFbEY-00446-00111781-00112050 we need a two-party system that KPkFYZaFbEY-00447-00112051-00112254 constantly argues with each other in KPkFYZaFbEY-00448-00112255-00112506 general but still upholds the basic KPkFYZaFbEY-00449-00112507-00112863 elitist policies we need to maintain our KPkFYZaFbEY-00450-00112864-00113157 advantage the beauty of this dominant KPkFYZaFbEY-00451-00113158-00113376 2-party farce is that it not only gives KPkFYZaFbEY-00452-00113377-00113633 the public the needed illusion of choice KPkFYZaFbEY-00453-00113634-00113883 it more importantly oppresses those KPkFYZaFbEY-00454-00113883-00114255 upstart third parties as we know these KPkFYZaFbEY-00455-00114256-00114489 annoying self-righteous third parties KPkFYZaFbEY-00456-00114490-00114789 have been troublemakers from day one the KPkFYZaFbEY-00457-00114790-00115061 Civil Rights amendments women's suffrage KPkFYZaFbEY-00458-00115063-00115347 broad worker rights child labor laws and KPkFYZaFbEY-00459-00115348-00115661 other agitations for industry all came KPkFYZaFbEY-00460-00115663-00115875 from these rising third parties KPkFYZaFbEY-00461-00115876-00115944 historically KPkFYZaFbEY-00462-00115945-00116193 not from the dominant established group KPkFYZaFbEY-00463-00116194-00116550 us so we need to be vigilant here we KPkFYZaFbEY-00464-00116551-00116754 need to get the public so used to this KPkFYZaFbEY-00465-00116755-00116994 two-party dictatorship that they don't KPkFYZaFbEY-00466-00116995-00117195 even mind if the two parties are given KPkFYZaFbEY-00467-00117196-00117432 direct control over most of the KPkFYZaFbEY-00468-00117433-00117705 electoral process itself they need to KPkFYZaFbEY-00469-00117706-00117879 have the power of organizing the rules KPkFYZaFbEY-00470-00117880-00118111 of electoral redistricting the primaries KPkFYZaFbEY-00471-00118113-00118436 the caucuses and debates and of course KPkFYZaFbEY-00472-00118438-00118692 we the ruling class will moderate their KPkFYZaFbEY-00473-00118693-00118857 actions through law KPkFYZaFbEY-00474-00118858-00119130 campaign contributions you know exactly KPkFYZaFbEY-00475-00119131-00119358 what the free market promises the KPkFYZaFbEY-00476-00119358-00119715 freedom to manipulate everything so neat KPkFYZaFbEY-00477-00119716-00119901 our friends the Commission on KPkFYZaFbEY-00478-00119902-00120311 Presidential Debates or CPD in 1988 the KPkFYZaFbEY-00479-00120313-00120576 Democratic and Republican parties or the KPkFYZaFbEY-00480-00120577-00120791 demo publicans as I like to call them KPkFYZaFbEY-00481-00120792-00120986 established the Commission on KPkFYZaFbEY-00482-00120988-00121215 Presidential Debates posing as a KPkFYZaFbEY-00483-00121216-00121478 nonpartisan institution the CPD KPkFYZaFbEY-00484-00121479-00121692 successfully took control the most KPkFYZaFbEY-00485-00121693-00121896 influential election event the KPkFYZaFbEY-00486-00121897-00122163 presidential debates the CPD which is a KPkFYZaFbEY-00487-00122164-00122373 private corporation co-chaired by the KPkFYZaFbEY-00488-00122374-00122550 former heads of the Republican and KPkFYZaFbEY-00489-00122551-00122826 Democratic parties decide through secret KPkFYZaFbEY-00490-00122827-00123086 contracts who is going to participate in KPkFYZaFbEY-00491-00123088-00123273 the debates and what is going to be KPkFYZaFbEY-00492-00123274-00123345 talked about KPkFYZaFbEY-00493-00123346-00123621 so those pesky third parties along with KPkFYZaFbEY-00494-00123622-00123930 controversial ideas can only come into KPkFYZaFbEY-00495-00123931-00124208 play if the demo publicans decide they KPkFYZaFbEY-00496-00124209-00124656 can I mean really can you imagine what KPkFYZaFbEY-00497-00124657-00124824 would happen if those annoying social KPkFYZaFbEY-00498-00124825-00125082 upstarts actually were able to go up KPkFYZaFbEY-00499-00125083-00125352 against the trite miserable logic and KPkFYZaFbEY-00500-00125353-00125556 narrow subject matter typical of our KPkFYZaFbEY-00501-00125557-00125928 rigged debates hmm but for the nurse the KPkFYZaFbEY-00502-00125929-00126291 teacher the police officer who frankly KPkFYZaFbEY-00503-00126292-00126456 at the end of each month they've gotten KPkFYZaFbEY-00504-00126457-00126594 a little financial crisis going on KPkFYZaFbEY-00505-00126595-00126809 they're having to take out extra debt KPkFYZaFbEY-00506-00126810-00127047 just to make their mortgage payments we KPkFYZaFbEY-00507-00127048-00127224 haven't been paying attention to them KPkFYZaFbEY-00508-00127225-00127416 and if you look at our tax policies it's KPkFYZaFbEY-00509-00127417-00127602 a classic example I'm sorry to interrupt KPkFYZaFbEY-00510-00127603-00127827 mr. president but I couldn't agree more KPkFYZaFbEY-00511-00127828-00128004 however don't you feel that the tax KPkFYZaFbEY-00512-00128005-00128229 policies and other common KPkFYZaFbEY-00513-00128230-00128406 acknowledgments about what is hurting KPkFYZaFbEY-00514-00128407-00128616 the average American is actually quite KPkFYZaFbEY-00515-00128617-00128832 benign when compared to the very KPkFYZaFbEY-00516-00128833-00129132 foundation of our economic system you KPkFYZaFbEY-00517-00129133-00129383 know making money out of debt charging KPkFYZaFbEY-00518-00129384-00129615 interest on it that doesn't exist which KPkFYZaFbEY-00519-00129616-00129738 means that there is always more KPkFYZaFbEY-00520-00129739-00129933 outstanding debt than there is money to KPkFYZaFbEY-00521-00129933-00130191 pay for it of course that lends itself KPkFYZaFbEY-00522-00130192-00130398 to more debt being created to cover it KPkFYZaFbEY-00523-00130399-00130632 and essentially failure and bankruptcy KPkFYZaFbEY-00524-00130633-00130896 is inevitable not for the upper classes KPkFYZaFbEY-00525-00130897-00131091 as much as the lower middle classes of KPkFYZaFbEY-00526-00131092-00131382 course why because the lower classes are KPkFYZaFbEY-00527-00131383-00131654 the ones taking the loans for their home KPkFYZaFbEY-00528-00131655-00131852 their car while the upper-class are KPkFYZaFbEY-00529-00131853-00132098 actually making interest income rather KPkFYZaFbEY-00530-00132099-00132320 than paying interest they actually make KPkFYZaFbEY-00531-00132321-00132524 interest through their deposits and KPkFYZaFbEY-00532-00132525-00132673 investments KPkFYZaFbEY-00533-00132674-00132914 obviously this secure is a massive KPkFYZaFbEY-00534-00132915-00133133 growing class divide structurally is KPkFYZaFbEY-00535-00133134-00133887 that not something worth considering KPkFYZaFbEY-00536-00133888-00134295 oh and as a final point about the CPD KPkFYZaFbEY-00537-00134296-00134610 our corporations can now directly donate KPkFYZaFbEY-00538-00134611-00134925 to them hence the parties imposing our KPkFYZaFbEY-00539-00134926-00135150 financial influence and hence agenda KPkFYZaFbEY-00540-00135151-00135429 even more making another end run around KPkFYZaFbEY-00541-00135430-00135702 that pesky legal legislation barring KPkFYZaFbEY-00542-00135703-00135939 corporations from contributing directly KPkFYZaFbEY-00543-00135940-00136218 to political campaigns a beautiful end KPkFYZaFbEY-00544-00136219-00136692 run however nothing's perfect and you KPkFYZaFbEY-00545-00136693-00136944 can't be too careful and sometimes good KPkFYZaFbEY-00546-00136945-00137205 old-fashioned time-tested tactics are KPkFYZaFbEY-00547-00137206-00137436 needed and nothing is as old fashioned KPkFYZaFbEY-00548-00137437-00137793 as good old direct electoral fraud so KPkFYZaFbEY-00549-00137794-00137925 let's get some of our corporate buddies KPkFYZaFbEY-00550-00137926-00138126 to build some voting machines with KPkFYZaFbEY-00551-00138127-00138384 really terrible integrity and get them KPkFYZaFbEY-00552-00138385-00138690 in as many critical spots as we can yeah KPkFYZaFbEY-00553-00138691-00138918 I know it's sloppy it has already become KPkFYZaFbEY-00554-00138919-00139095 public that the machines can be hacked KPkFYZaFbEY-00555-00139096-00139299 remotely with about ten dollars in KPkFYZaFbEY-00556-00139300-00139482 materials and an eighth-grade science KPkFYZaFbEY-00557-00139483-00139758 education but since most Americans are KPkFYZaFbEY-00558-00139759-00139941 completely distracted by their debt KPkFYZaFbEY-00559-00139942-00140160 lowering standard of living and ongoing KPkFYZaFbEY-00560-00140161-00140496 job losses the liberal media falls on KPkFYZaFbEY-00561-00140497-00141363 deaf ears so let's recap free thinking KPkFYZaFbEY-00562-00141364-00141567 people tend to recognize the need for KPkFYZaFbEY-00563-00141568-00141876 ongoing adaptation and change so we need KPkFYZaFbEY-00564-00141877-00142086 to make sure education supports the KPkFYZaFbEY-00565-00142087-00142335 existing tradition through mere rote KPkFYZaFbEY-00566-00142336-00142658 learning not critical logical thought KPkFYZaFbEY-00567-00142659-00142962 next we establish clear limits of debate KPkFYZaFbEY-00568-00142963-00143175 in the culture and make sure those who KPkFYZaFbEY-00569-00143176-00143454 go beyond the pale are shutdown by KPkFYZaFbEY-00570-00143455-00143862 endless ridicule and debasement then we KPkFYZaFbEY-00571-00143863-00144054 need to harness the herd psychology and KPkFYZaFbEY-00572-00144055-00144251 guide it through our media to either KPkFYZaFbEY-00573-00144252-00144483 identify with the issues we need in the KPkFYZaFbEY-00574-00144484-00144699 forefront or distract them outright KPkFYZaFbEY-00575-00144700-00145002 as far as large scale influence we need KPkFYZaFbEY-00576-00145003-00145155 to have the freedom to do whatever we KPkFYZaFbEY-00577-00145156-00145371 want and to use our vast corporate KPkFYZaFbEY-00578-00145372-00145593 wealth to influence both public opinion KPkFYZaFbEY-00579-00145594-00145908 and the candidates themselves our legal KPkFYZaFbEY-00580-00145909-00146181 status as a corporate person now ensures KPkFYZaFbEY-00581-00146182-00146514 our free speech and hence free spending KPkFYZaFbEY-00582-00146515-00146772 next we create the public illusion of KPkFYZaFbEY-00583-00146773-00147006 competition and choice and gain as much KPkFYZaFbEY-00584-00147007-00147143 control over the election KPkFYZaFbEY-00585-00147144-00147407 process as possible our demo-publican KPkFYZaFbEY-00586-00147408-00147739 pawns with our endless sponsorship and KPkFYZaFbEY-00587-00147740-00148036 lobbying now handles this well including KPkFYZaFbEY-00588-00148037-00148259 the restriction of public debate and the KPkFYZaFbEY-00589-00148260-00148543 denial of all interfering third parties KPkFYZaFbEY-00590-00148544-00148823 and if that wasn't enough screw it we'll KPkFYZaFbEY-00591-00148824-00148954 just reorder the ballot accounts KPkFYZaFbEY-00592-00148955-00149125 ourselves with the black box voting KPkFYZaFbEY-00593-00149126-00149338 hacks in the most influential electoral KPkFYZaFbEY-00594-00149339-00150161 states and so it goes you know since the KPkFYZaFbEY-00595-00150162-00150347 beginning of civilization those in power KPkFYZaFbEY-00596-00150348-00150499 have successfully restricted the KPkFYZaFbEY-00597-00150500-00150688 interests of the majority by regulating KPkFYZaFbEY-00598-00150689-00150899 their values by controlling resources KPkFYZaFbEY-00599-00150900-00151162 through money not to mention controlling KPkFYZaFbEY-00600-00151163-00151327 the very processes that exist to KPkFYZaFbEY-00601-00151328-00151603 challenge them is it a conspiracy to KPkFYZaFbEY-00602-00151604-00151849 such powerful men meet in dark rooms and KPkFYZaFbEY-00603-00151850-00152036 work to figure out how to keep their KPkFYZaFbEY-00604-00152037-00152266 power actually no not as much as you KPkFYZaFbEY-00605-00152267-00152474 might think you see the hilarious thing KPkFYZaFbEY-00606-00152475-00152749 about all of this is that such a process KPkFYZaFbEY-00607-00152750-00152925 of manipulation is actually KPkFYZaFbEY-00608-00152926-00153151 self-generating justified in a KPkFYZaFbEY-00609-00153152-00153382 step-by-step manner with basic KPkFYZaFbEY-00610-00153383-00153688 self-interest guiding the whole way you KPkFYZaFbEY-00611-00153689-00153899 see the real corruption is not occurring KPkFYZaFbEY-00612-00153900-00154129 in backroom meetings or at the docks KPkFYZaFbEY-00613-00154130-00154474 the real power resides and how you the KPkFYZaFbEY-00614-00154475-00154786 public actually perpetuate condone and KPkFYZaFbEY-00615-00154787-00155053 support the very underlying systems that KPkFYZaFbEY-00616-00155054-00155524 oppress you final thoughts many watching KPkFYZaFbEY-00617-00155525-00155693 this programs content will likely KPkFYZaFbEY-00618-00155694-00155882 interpret the broad Forrest known as KPkFYZaFbEY-00619-00155883-00156124 American democracy or really the farce KPkFYZaFbEY-00620-00156125-00156398 of global democracy in fact as a system KPkFYZaFbEY-00621-00156399-00156739 in need of better regulation the aclu KPkFYZaFbEY-00622-00156740-00157054 democracy now michael moore occupy wall KPkFYZaFbEY-00623-00157055-00157201 street Annie Leonard and other KPkFYZaFbEY-00624-00157202-00157394 intelligent and outspoken activist KPkFYZaFbEY-00625-00157395-00157603 institutions and figures seeking what KPkFYZaFbEY-00626-00157604-00157922 they call change all actually operate KPkFYZaFbEY-00627-00157923-00158236 within the same presupposition if only KPkFYZaFbEY-00628-00158237-00158416 we can better regulate monetary and KPkFYZaFbEY-00629-00158417-00158961 corporate power we can fix the world no KPkFYZaFbEY-00630-00158962-00159250 I'm sorry to say that until the social KPkFYZaFbEY-00631-00159251-00159514 premise itself and hence the fundamental KPkFYZaFbEY-00632-00159515-00159690 psychological drivers of our economy KPkFYZaFbEY-00633-00159691-00159947 imbalance scarcity narrow self-interest KPkFYZaFbEY-00634-00159948-00160196 exploitation and competition until those KPkFYZaFbEY-00635-00160197-00160382 are altered to the extent that the KPkFYZaFbEY-00636-00160383-00160520 system begins to KPkFYZaFbEY-00637-00160521-00160820 and reinforced collaboration human and KPkFYZaFbEY-00638-00160821-00161041 ecological balance efficiency and KPkFYZaFbEY-00639-00161042-00161336 sustainability nothing is going to KPkFYZaFbEY-00640-00161337-00161609 really change in a sociological KPkFYZaFbEY-00641-00161610-00161803 condition where everything is based on KPkFYZaFbEY-00642-00161804-00161984 advantage over others what we call KPkFYZaFbEY-00643-00161985-00162226 corruption today isn't actually KPkFYZaFbEY-00644-00162227-00162463 corruption at all it's just business as KPkFYZaFbEY-00645-00162464-00162739 usual I mean seriously what did you KPkFYZaFbEY-00646-00162740-00162950 people expect in an economy where KPkFYZaFbEY-00647-00162951-00163145 everything is for sale by the very ethic KPkFYZaFbEY-00648-00163146-00163366 inherent underscored by the false notion KPkFYZaFbEY-00649-00163367-00163532 that we can't possibly work together KPkFYZaFbEY-00650-00163533-00163627 intelligently KPkFYZaFbEY-00651-00163628-00163953 to benefit all no level of supposed KPkFYZaFbEY-00652-00163954-00164401 corruption should surprise any of us so KPkFYZaFbEY-00653-00164402-00164689 in short to assume we're going to KPkFYZaFbEY-00654-00164690-00164888 perpetuate this economic philosophy here KPkFYZaFbEY-00655-00164889-00165059 and then contradict it over here with KPkFYZaFbEY-00656-00165060-00165245 the idea that certain elements of KPkFYZaFbEY-00657-00165246-00165488 society should be off-limits from KPkFYZaFbEY-00658-00165489-00165748 monetary manipulation and gain is KPkFYZaFbEY-00659-00165749-00166163 completely naive and absurd but don't KPkFYZaFbEY-00660-00166164-00166376 take my word for him just sit back and KPkFYZaFbEY-00661-00166377-00166690 watch the ebb and flow as we move from KPkFYZaFbEY-00662-00166691-00166985 one set of corrupt damaging practices to KPkFYZaFbEY-00663-00166986-00167261 the next sure we'll slowly fix a few KPkFYZaFbEY-00664-00167262-00167525 issues with our in the box thinking but KPkFYZaFbEY-00665-00167526-00167723 until the whole system is addressed at KPkFYZaFbEY-00666-00167724-00168016 its core unfortunately it's all mostly a KPkFYZaFbEY-00667-00168017-00168212 waste of time an improvement will be KPkFYZaFbEY-00668-00168213-00168509 very very little and until we grow up to KPkFYZaFbEY-00669-00168510-00168824 that level sit back relax enjoy the show KPkFYZaFbEY-00670-00168825-00169168 and until next time I'm Peter Joseph an KPkFYZaFbEY-00672-00174589-00175174 we warn there I'll take not corporate 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gould today i am bringing you finally a KTHN-AxjArg-00002-00000367-00000526 monk monday it's been KTHN-AxjArg-00003-00000527-00000638 quite a bit and for those who don't know KTHN-AxjArg-00004-00000639-00000815 what that is pretty much you send any KTHN-AxjArg-00005-00000816-00001039 game play you have to this email right KTHN-AxjArg-00006-00001040-00001311 here and i critique it i review it i go KTHN-AxjArg-00007-00001312-00001527 over what you could do better maybe your KTHN-AxjArg-00008-00001528-00001679 teammates and KTHN-AxjArg-00009-00001680-00001830 it doesn't have to be just misweaver KTHN-AxjArg-00010-00001832-00002039 even though it's mostly miss weaver pvp KTHN-AxjArg-00011-00002039-00002167 it doesn't have to be just that i've KTHN-AxjArg-00012-00002168-00002359 done mythic plus i've done i haven't KTHN-AxjArg-00013-00002360-00002495 done rage yet but i've done the mythic KTHN-AxjArg-00014-00002496-00002647 plus mistweaver i've done wind walker as KTHN-AxjArg-00015-00002648-00002863 well so please send any gameplay you KTHN-AxjArg-00016-00002864-00003015 have no one's going to judge you no one KTHN-AxjArg-00017-00003016-00003231 no that's not what this channel is about KTHN-AxjArg-00018-00003232-00003383 at all so no one no one's going to care KTHN-AxjArg-00019-00003384-00003495 no one's going to make fun of you people KTHN-AxjArg-00020-00003496-00003631 want to help you get better and one of KTHN-AxjArg-00021-00003632-00003743 the best ways to get better is have KTHN-AxjArg-00022-00003744-00003943 another set of eyes on your gameplay KTHN-AxjArg-00023-00003944-00004103 with that said KTHN-AxjArg-00024-00004104-00004199 today KTHN-AxjArg-00025-00004200-00004351 we have tigers KTHN-AxjArg-00026-00004352-00004527 who watches the stream quite often KTHN-AxjArg-00027-00004528-00004647 hopefully i get a stream this week i've KTHN-AxjArg-00028-00004648-00004870 been gone for a week uh visiting family KTHN-AxjArg-00029-00004871-00005143 and he says i have submitted four games KTHN-AxjArg-00030-00005144-00005383 two wins two losses uh rating is around KTHN-AxjArg-00031-00005384-00005502 fifteen hundred there's some moments KTHN-AxjArg-00032-00005503-00005702 where i panic i'm sure that you'll see KTHN-AxjArg-00033-00005703-00005854 when i first started healing and first KTHN-AxjArg-00034-00005855-00006143 started getting into pvp even pve i KTHN-AxjArg-00035-00006144-00006327 panicked as well so don't worry um as KTHN-AxjArg-00036-00006328-00006463 always love the content keep up the good KTHN-AxjArg-00037-00006464-00006678 work the content keep up the good work KTHN-AxjArg-00038-00006679-00006814 thank you techers yo thank you so much KTHN-AxjArg-00039-00006815-00007087 man i really do appreciate that um KTHN-AxjArg-00040-00007088-00007231 so yeah let's just jump right into it KTHN-AxjArg-00041-00007231-00007431 looks like we are playing miss weaver KTHN-AxjArg-00042-00007431-00007742 frost at night KTHN-AxjArg-00043-00007743-00008110 versus some wind walker dh so KTHN-AxjArg-00044-00008111-00008271 talents right here aren't too bad the KTHN-AxjArg-00045-00008272-00008431 most important talent versus this is KTHN-AxjArg-00046-00008432-00008759 eminence just because they have stuns um KTHN-AxjArg-00047-00008760-00008910 disarm is really good versus the demon KTHN-AxjArg-00048-00008911-00009127 hunter do you need it that much i would KTHN-AxjArg-00049-00009128-00009255 maybe zen focus team might be a little KTHN-AxjArg-00050-00009256-00009406 bit better instead of grab a weapon just KTHN-AxjArg-00051-00009407-00009567 because they both have kicks KTHN-AxjArg-00052-00009568-00009759 and it might be more useful peace weaver KTHN-AxjArg-00053-00009760-00009951 is pretty decent versus the hunt if you KTHN-AxjArg-00054-00009952-00010055 could time it right so if you have that KTHN-AxjArg-00055-00010056-00010310 timing down i would say do it um KTHN-AxjArg-00056-00010311-00010446 maybe tiger's less instead of cheat KTHN-AxjArg-00057-00010447-00010799 torpedo but tires lost i mean KTHN-AxjArg-00058-00010800-00010967 your your death knight should be able to KTHN-AxjArg-00059-00010968-00011183 use their change of ice on your on the KTHN-AxjArg-00060-00011184-00011342 other team pretty well so KTHN-AxjArg-00061-00011343-00011478 maybe you probably just cheat torpedoes KTHN-AxjArg-00062-00011479-00011703 fine but maybe instead of grab a weapon KTHN-AxjArg-00063-00011704-00011959 play zen focus t because they have kicks KTHN-AxjArg-00064-00011960-00012142 and the demon under has kind of a range KTHN-AxjArg-00065-00012143-00012246 kick so KTHN-AxjArg-00066-00012247-00012359 but the most important thing again is KTHN-AxjArg-00067-00012360-00012567 eminence versus um i would probably just KTHN-AxjArg-00068-00012568-00012695 put a port down KTHN-AxjArg-00069-00012696-00012935 statue up as well we gotta pour it down KTHN-AxjArg-00070-00012936-00013166 i would statues up all right perfect so KTHN-AxjArg-00071-00013168-00013294 i would say the kill target looks like KTHN-AxjArg-00072-00013295-00013494 the under geared windwalker but it looks KTHN-AxjArg-00073-00013495-00013622 like they just want to go your demon KTHN-AxjArg-00074-00013623-00013791 hunter your demon hunter or their demon KTHN-AxjArg-00075-00013791-00013958 hunter darknesses KTHN-AxjArg-00076-00013959-00014086 and you play with the frost death knight KTHN-AxjArg-00077-00014087-00014366 so your goals are pretty KTHN-AxjArg-00078-00014368-00014511 they're pretty consistent every minute KTHN-AxjArg-00079-00014512-00014615 what you want to do is you want to get KTHN-AxjArg-00080-00014616-00014775 the blinding i've always felt i think KTHN-AxjArg-00081-00014776-00014927 it's blinding sleet KTHN-AxjArg-00082-00014928-00015079 and which is i think what you definitely KTHN-AxjArg-00083-00015080-00015199 did KTHN-AxjArg-00084-00015200-00015607 here KTHN-AxjArg-00085-00015608-00015855 right here only on the wind walker i KTHN-AxjArg-00086-00015856-00015975 would have definitely preferred to see KTHN-AxjArg-00087-00015976-00016279 the blinding sleet on both of them but KTHN-AxjArg-00088-00016280-00016422 it's all you do on the kill target i KTHN-AxjArg-00089-00016423-00016558 guess it's not that bad and then what KTHN-AxjArg-00090-00016559-00016727 you're gonna do is you're gonna roll in KTHN-AxjArg-00091-00016728-00016886 or you can cheat torpedo in and you're KTHN-AxjArg-00092-00016887-00017135 going to like sweep both of them and KTHN-AxjArg-00093-00017136-00017319 that's that's pretty much your go every KTHN-AxjArg-00094-00017320-00017591 minute and i think your death knight has KTHN-AxjArg-00095-00017592-00017727 some kind of KTHN-AxjArg-00096-00017728-00017975 stun off that maybe oh a silence i think KTHN-AxjArg-00097-00017976-00018094 he's probably not playing it versus this KTHN-AxjArg-00098-00018095-00018263 but for zero dps that's what you're KTHN-AxjArg-00099-00018264-00018471 gonna do um KTHN-AxjArg-00100-00018472-00018647 so yeah that you KTHN-AxjArg-00101-00018648-00018791 kind of want to get as much as you can KTHN-AxjArg-00102-00018792-00018958 much value out of the blank seat but it KTHN-AxjArg-00103-00018959-00019207 looks like we get uh your definite ibfs KTHN-AxjArg-00104-00019208-00019422 there and here comes the hunt so if KTHN-AxjArg-00105-00019423-00019639 you're going to play pc you're kind of KTHN-AxjArg-00106-00019640-00019775 on the gc though KTHN-AxjArg-00107-00019776-00019894 so it's kind of obvious see if you have KTHN-AxjArg-00108-00019895-00020022 time you KTHN-AxjArg-00109-00020023-00020158 i don't think you have oh you have time KTHN-AxjArg-00110-00020159-00020350 your time if you see it i mean it's fast KTHN-AxjArg-00111-00020351-00020558 right it's like really freaking fast but KTHN-AxjArg-00112-00020559-00020711 if you see this hunt happening just KTHN-AxjArg-00113-00020712-00020927 press revival your deathly can also ams KTHN-AxjArg-00114-00020928-00021167 the damage or amz it so and we also have KTHN-AxjArg-00115-00021168-00021407 ibf up so this shouldn't be a kill KTHN-AxjArg-00116-00021408-00021494 um KTHN-AxjArg-00117-00021495-00021727 but yeah left cocoon there great it gets KTHN-AxjArg-00118-00021728-00021839 a little low a little touchy that KTHN-AxjArg-00119-00021840-00021991 there's a little scary thankfully didn't KTHN-AxjArg-00120-00021992-00022230 crit and we had ibf up so KTHN-AxjArg-00121-00022231-00022358 thankfully they weren't coordinating KTHN-AxjArg-00122-00022359-00022439 that much there's karma from the KTHN-AxjArg-00123-00022440-00022591 windwalker as well and i would just like KTHN-AxjArg-00124-00022592-00022807 spam heal yeah we gotta vivify there i KTHN-AxjArg-00125-00022808-00022911 would KTHN-AxjArg-00126-00022912-00023135 throw in a vote you definitely okay oh KTHN-AxjArg-00127-00023136-00023463 yeah one thing one thing's for sure KTHN-AxjArg-00128-00023464-00023663 healing rotation wise KTHN-AxjArg-00129-00023664-00023822 make sure you keep doing this stuff at KTHN-AxjArg-00130-00023823-00023999 like all the time like right now even KTHN-AxjArg-00131-00024000-00024207 right now i would throw KTHN-AxjArg-00132-00024208-00024342 actually let's let's bring it back a bit KTHN-AxjArg-00133-00024343-00024471 let's bring it back a bit this is double KTHN-AxjArg-00134-00024472-00024630 dps team KTHN-AxjArg-00135-00024631-00024830 double melee KTHN-AxjArg-00136-00024831-00024991 the game isn't going to go that long so KTHN-AxjArg-00137-00024992-00025135 don't be afraid to use your cooldowns KTHN-AxjArg-00138-00025136-00025414 like you see uh yulon right here i would KTHN-AxjArg-00139-00025415-00025567 just press her right here the wind KTHN-AxjArg-00140-00025568-00025767 walker already used his mobility and the KTHN-AxjArg-00141-00025768-00025911 death knight uh the demon hunter is KTHN-AxjArg-00142-00025912-00026134 using the brewers cooldown so just press KTHN-AxjArg-00143-00026135-00026399 you on and kind of you just pump healing KTHN-AxjArg-00144-00026400-00026551 pretty much even if it's overhealing so KTHN-AxjArg-00145-00026552-00026751 after the stun goes down KTHN-AxjArg-00146-00026752-00026911 i would press eulon here because you KTHN-AxjArg-00147-00026912-00027079 can't even cash right now uh because KTHN-AxjArg-00148-00027080-00027174 you're getting knocked in the air and KTHN-AxjArg-00149-00027175-00027327 then i'll also throw a new missed out so KTHN-AxjArg-00150-00027327-00027495 i would use yulon here they're doing KTHN-AxjArg-00151-00027495-00027623 missed out KTHN-AxjArg-00152-00027624-00027823 that way you don't fall too far behind KTHN-AxjArg-00153-00027824-00028014 and then i would start cranking them KTHN-AxjArg-00154-00028016-00028158 here you also have bonus brew available KTHN-AxjArg-00155-00028160-00028374 so bonus brew will help with any healing KTHN-AxjArg-00156-00028375-00028518 and we still have leg sweeps and we KTHN-AxjArg-00157-00028519-00028702 still revival so there's a lot of KTHN-AxjArg-00158-00028704-00028879 cooldowns i would definitely throw we're KTHN-AxjArg-00159-00028880-00029031 playing cloud of focus definitely we KTHN-AxjArg-00160-00029032-00029135 have three stacks with throwing an KTHN-AxjArg-00161-00029136-00029399 envelope we missed out here we have ams KTHN-AxjArg-00162-00029400-00029527 so we should be able to stop some of the KTHN-AxjArg-00163-00029527-00029711 demon hunter damage don't drop too low KTHN-AxjArg-00164-00029712-00029846 demon KTHN-AxjArg-00165-00029847-00030023 yeah oh wow okay i'm surprised we KTHN-AxjArg-00166-00030024-00030135 actually live there all right we KTHN-AxjArg-00167-00030136-00030239 disarmed the demon hunter i think he KTHN-AxjArg-00168-00030239-00030423 triggered it we have likes KTHN-AxjArg-00169-00030424-00030783 no we just used okay KTHN-AxjArg-00170-00030783-00030918 and cap on the wind walker is really KTHN-AxjArg-00171-00030919-00031143 good rob as well is pretty solid KTHN-AxjArg-00172-00031144-00031439 um KTHN-AxjArg-00173-00031439-00031607 yeah it's pretty good uh that's done for KTHN-AxjArg-00174-00031608-00031799 me i would definitely try to heal right KTHN-AxjArg-00175-00031800-00031911 now though KTHN-AxjArg-00176-00031912-00032087 just because when walker damage is so KTHN-AxjArg-00177-00032088-00032246 random they're playing big end cap so KTHN-AxjArg-00178-00032247-00032358 you kind of can fall behind really KTHN-AxjArg-00179-00032360-00032470 quickly KTHN-AxjArg-00180-00032472-00032687 yeah um KTHN-AxjArg-00181-00032688-00032918 this really wasn't that bad of a game KTHN-AxjArg-00182-00032919-00033118 i would just say try to use your invoke KTHN-AxjArg-00183-00033119-00033343 ulon and bonus brew a little bit more KTHN-AxjArg-00184-00033344-00033607 again it's a wps match it's not going to KTHN-AxjArg-00185-00033608-00033743 go three minutes long so you're not KTHN-AxjArg-00186-00033744-00033967 gonna see eulon again so might as well KTHN-AxjArg-00187-00033968-00034079 just press her when you see damage KTHN-AxjArg-00188-00034080-00034351 coming out and then bonus brew KTHN-AxjArg-00189-00034352-00034727 really is good um if you're playing the KTHN-AxjArg-00190-00034728-00034990 conduit that increases the healing it KTHN-AxjArg-00191-00034991-00035167 does i would KTHN-AxjArg-00192-00035168-00035327 definitely it just very strong KTHN-AxjArg-00193-00035328-00035646 one-minute cooldown um so play that KTHN-AxjArg-00194-00035647-00035887 use it more often we didn't use mana KTHN-AxjArg-00195-00035888-00036095 team at all we double eps didn't really KTHN-AxjArg-00196-00036096-00036255 have to i guess versus this kind of KTHN-AxjArg-00197-00036256-00036399 double melee team but KTHN-AxjArg-00198-00036400-00036551 i would say the biggest thing is in this KTHN-AxjArg-00199-00036552-00036783 right here when we start to fall behind KTHN-AxjArg-00200-00036784-00036927 boom here KTHN-AxjArg-00201-00036928-00037079 one make sure you keep renewing this up KTHN-AxjArg-00202-00037080-00037318 on your teammate two when you have three KTHN-AxjArg-00203-00037319-00037695 stacks of surging of a cloud of focus KTHN-AxjArg-00204-00037696-00037983 looks like surging miss back him up um KTHN-AxjArg-00205-00037984-00038151 use enveloping mist that's your best hot KTHN-AxjArg-00206-00038152-00038287 and the healing from his increase you KTHN-AxjArg-00207-00038288-00038407 also have thunder focus see so what you KTHN-AxjArg-00208-00038408-00038502 could have done with this three stack KTHN-AxjArg-00209-00038503-00038662 right here i think you still have three KTHN-AxjArg-00210-00038663-00038862 stacks with like soothing mist like KTHN-AxjArg-00211-00038863-00039030 one two KTHN-AxjArg-00212-00039031-00039207 three boom what you could have done here KTHN-AxjArg-00213-00039208-00039390 on this gcd is thunder focus t into an KTHN-AxjArg-00214-00039391-00039527 envelope you missed and i'm pretty sure KTHN-AxjArg-00215-00039528-00039687 your teammate would have been KTHN-AxjArg-00216-00039688-00039918 like topped and then after this after KTHN-AxjArg-00217-00039919-00040095 you stabilize here you play you use your KTHN-AxjArg-00218-00040096-00040295 ulan and then KTHN-AxjArg-00219-00040296-00040487 you just keep healing use light sweep KTHN-AxjArg-00220-00040488-00040630 when they stack and KTHN-AxjArg-00221-00040631-00040871 you'll be good i somehow this stunt got KTHN-AxjArg-00222-00040872-00041062 dr'd by this remorseless winter if KTHN-AxjArg-00223-00041063-00041190 you're a demon hunter if you're a death KTHN-AxjArg-00224-00041191-00041374 knight didn't uh dear the stun i think KTHN-AxjArg-00225-00041375-00041558 you could have killed the um the wind KTHN-AxjArg-00226-00041559-00041695 walker and like it's done i would have KTHN-AxjArg-00227-00041696-00041830 killed the wind walker not the deep KTHN-AxjArg-00228-00041831-00042046 demon hunter i think because uh wind KTHN-AxjArg-00229-00042047-00042262 walkers their mobility is all they have KTHN-AxjArg-00230-00042263-00042455 and after port you could just KTHN-AxjArg-00231-00042456-00042687 run them down but yeah not a bad first KTHN-AxjArg-00232-00042688-00042862 game like at all KTHN-AxjArg-00233-00042863-00043046 you just have to get the setup right KTHN-AxjArg-00234-00043047-00043311 and you you'll be fine the setup KTHN-AxjArg-00235-00043312-00043502 when it comes to misweaver the setup is KTHN-AxjArg-00236-00043503-00043711 what it's all about i mean that's that's KTHN-AxjArg-00237-00043712-00043815 it KTHN-AxjArg-00238-00043816-00043927 if you don't have setups you're just KTHN-AxjArg-00239-00043928-00044102 gonna lose that mana KTHN-AxjArg-00240-00044103-00044223 also i see that we're a little bit under KTHN-AxjArg-00241-00044224-00044407 geared so KTHN-AxjArg-00242-00044408-00044502 you know KTHN-AxjArg-00243-00044503-00044600 that's okay KTHN-AxjArg-00244-00044601-00044774 [Music] KTHN-AxjArg-00245-00044775-00044871 okay KTHN-AxjArg-00246-00044872-00045118 so we have okay so we have dh again uh KTHN-AxjArg-00247-00045119-00045423 with rest of shaman KTHN-AxjArg-00248-00045424-00045527 so KTHN-AxjArg-00249-00045528-00045687 looks like we're playing disarm which i KTHN-AxjArg-00250-00045688-00045823 think disarm is pretty good versus demon KTHN-AxjArg-00251-00045824-00045927 hunter KTHN-AxjArg-00252-00045928-00046118 especially when they use their big meta KTHN-AxjArg-00253-00046119-00046311 or like their other meta the i don't KTHN-AxjArg-00254-00046312-00046479 know the other one with ib or whatever KTHN-AxjArg-00255-00046480-00046702 it's called um i think the code target KTHN-AxjArg-00256-00046703-00046799 is KTHN-AxjArg-00257-00046800-00046935 probably the shaman if i'm gonna be KTHN-AxjArg-00258-00046936-00047174 completely honest because shaman oh KTHN-AxjArg-00259-00047175-00047302 that's the hunt right off the right off KTHN-AxjArg-00260-00047303-00047486 the bat okay well i was not expecting KTHN-AxjArg-00261-00047487-00047646 that first global okay you're stunned KTHN-AxjArg-00262-00047647-00047855 you have the dot on you um KTHN-AxjArg-00263-00047856-00048030 if you're playing peace weaver okay so KTHN-AxjArg-00264-00048031-00048230 right here peace weaver KTHN-AxjArg-00265-00048231-00048399 i feel like versus demon hunters if KTHN-AxjArg-00266-00048400-00048599 teams stack up they're just gonna use KTHN-AxjArg-00267-00048600-00048855 their um chaos nova i would say right KTHN-AxjArg-00268-00048856-00048983 now is a pretty good time to revival KTHN-AxjArg-00269-00048984-00049286 because there's a hex coming in hot and KTHN-AxjArg-00270-00049287-00049399 we're stacked up so he's probably gonna KTHN-AxjArg-00271-00049400-00049599 stun you also you have to hunt dot on KTHN-AxjArg-00272-00049600-00049702 you so it kind of makes your immune KTHN-AxjArg-00273-00049703-00049846 damage for a little bit KTHN-AxjArg-00274-00049847-00050095 and KTHN-AxjArg-00275-00050096-00050262 yeah i would say KTHN-AxjArg-00276-00050263-00050455 use revival right now obviously a hunt KTHN-AxjArg-00277-00050456-00050639 says 2020. i mean sounds fine cocoon is KTHN-AxjArg-00278-00050640-00050935 fine too cocoon is fine um KTHN-AxjArg-00279-00050936-00051127 i don't think there's anything maybe you KTHN-AxjArg-00280-00051128-00051246 could have done you could have ported KTHN-AxjArg-00281-00051247-00051438 defuse magic i guess that might have KTHN-AxjArg-00282-00051439-00051599 been a little bit better but KTHN-AxjArg-00283-00051600-00051799 overall i think it's it's not bad just KTHN-AxjArg-00284-00051800-00051894 make sure you keep you doing this on KTHN-AxjArg-00285-00051895-00051975 yourself put everything you miss on KTHN-AxjArg-00286-00051976-00052142 yourself because what what life cocoon KTHN-AxjArg-00287-00052144-00052302 does is it also gives you a shield of KTHN-AxjArg-00288-00052303-00052487 course obviously but it also makes your KTHN-AxjArg-00289-00052488-00052726 hearts heal for more so prob about being KTHN-AxjArg-00290-00052727-00052879 missed or renewing mrs instant so just i KTHN-AxjArg-00291-00052879-00052975 would just throw a renewing mist on KTHN-AxjArg-00292-00052976-00053126 yourself here and do your best that's KTHN-AxjArg-00293-00053127-00053294 ibf from your death knight maybe not KTHN-AxjArg-00294-00053295-00053535 necessary but that's okay i would i KTHN-AxjArg-00295-00053536-00053671 would honestly say the kill targets the KTHN-AxjArg-00296-00053672-00053807 rest of shaman i think wrestle shaman KTHN-AxjArg-00297-00053808-00053935 really struggle versus frost death KTHN-AxjArg-00298-00053936-00054094 knights KTHN-AxjArg-00299-00054095-00054263 and the reason another reason why you KTHN-AxjArg-00300-00054264-00054382 want to go the shaman is so that they KTHN-AxjArg-00301-00054383-00054607 stack up so that way KTHN-AxjArg-00302-00054608-00054742 when you're hitting the shaman when KTHN-AxjArg-00303-00054744-00054854 you're when you're KTHN-AxjArg-00304-00054855-00055007 your death knight's hitting the shaman KTHN-AxjArg-00305-00055008-00055111 they're stacked up you can get the KTHN-AxjArg-00306-00055112-00055294 double blinding sleep into the double KTHN-AxjArg-00307-00055295-00055503 leg sweep and then off of that if they KTHN-AxjArg-00308-00055504-00055663 shrink if the shaman trinkets you can KTHN-AxjArg-00309-00055664-00055903 you your death knight can silence off of KTHN-AxjArg-00310-00055904-00056087 that which is even better so just keep KTHN-AxjArg-00311-00056088-00056326 that in mind um we did use revival there KTHN-AxjArg-00312-00056327-00056542 i saw peace weaver disarm on the death KTHN-AxjArg-00313-00056544-00056735 knight or demon hunter KTHN-AxjArg-00314-00056736-00056991 uh this meta up meta's up okay perfect i KTHN-AxjArg-00315-00056991-00057094 don't think there's a bad time you can KTHN-AxjArg-00316-00057095-00057279 disarm good juke KTHN-AxjArg-00317-00057279-00057454 insane juke on that sheer KTHN-AxjArg-00318-00057455-00057566 hell yeah KTHN-AxjArg-00319-00057567-00057935 love to see it a sentence is down KTHN-AxjArg-00320-00057936-00058166 a lot of bursts coming hot so one very KTHN-AxjArg-00321-00058167-00058430 quickly very small but it doesn't matter KTHN-AxjArg-00322-00058432-00058591 um the higher rating no it doesn't KTHN-AxjArg-00323-00058591-00058854 matter you see this um flame shock here KTHN-AxjArg-00324-00058855-00059103 well this what it does is it's a dot on KTHN-AxjArg-00325-00059104-00059247 you i'm sure you know it's a dot on you KTHN-AxjArg-00326-00059248-00059407 but what it also does is when this KTHN-AxjArg-00327-00059408-00059638 shaman right here casts this lava burst KTHN-AxjArg-00328-00059639-00059807 if there's a flame shock on the target KTHN-AxjArg-00329-00059808-00059982 it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna create KTHN-AxjArg-00330-00059983-00060182 a hundred percent crits so KTHN-AxjArg-00331-00060183-00060335 whenever i see blobbers coming in hot KTHN-AxjArg-00332-00060336-00060582 and i see a flame shock um i i try to KTHN-AxjArg-00333-00060583-00060766 dispel this as soon as like right now i KTHN-AxjArg-00334-00060767-00060879 would dispel it so that they can't KTHN-AxjArg-00335-00060879-00061150 reapply it and then and then you know KTHN-AxjArg-00336-00061151-00061319 after mine dispel that tonight i can't KTHN-AxjArg-00337-00061320-00061503 spell it so um dispel the flame shock KTHN-AxjArg-00338-00061504-00061775 here so the log worst doesn't crit um KTHN-AxjArg-00339-00061776-00061894 and it doesn't do as much damage we see KTHN-AxjArg-00340-00061895-00062063 a little meatball coming in hot man i KTHN-AxjArg-00341-00062064-00062230 think we're kind of freaking out i guess KTHN-AxjArg-00342-00062232-00062375 we're kind of we're freaking out a KTHN-AxjArg-00343-00062376-00062519 little bit i would just say what you KTHN-AxjArg-00344-00062520-00062742 want to do in this situation and i have KTHN-AxjArg-00345-00062744-00062903 to like reevaluate during games too all KTHN-AxjArg-00346-00062904-00063006 the time KTHN-AxjArg-00347-00063007-00063223 is like what what are we doing and how KTHN-AxjArg-00348-00063224-00063350 how like how are we going to win this KTHN-AxjArg-00349-00063351-00063430 game KTHN-AxjArg-00350-00063432-00063606 pretty much like ask yourself how how do KTHN-AxjArg-00351-00063607-00063823 we win this game i think i think you win KTHN-AxjArg-00352-00063824-00063966 this game KTHN-AxjArg-00353-00063967-00064223 by kiting the demon hunter or not KTHN-AxjArg-00354-00064224-00064423 cutting the demon under killing the rest KTHN-AxjArg-00355-00064424-00064582 of shaman and then having them stack KTHN-AxjArg-00356-00064583-00064775 somehow so for in order for your the KTHN-AxjArg-00357-00064776-00064950 demon hunter to hit your dk instead of KTHN-AxjArg-00358-00064951-00065150 you just get out of there you know just KTHN-AxjArg-00359-00065151-00065294 get out there i see that your dk has no KTHN-AxjArg-00360-00065295-00065471 idea or anything so i would position KTHN-AxjArg-00361-00065472-00065575 myself first of all i don't think i KTHN-AxjArg-00362-00065576-00065687 would position on this middle pillar i KTHN-AxjArg-00363-00065688-00065838 think it's really annoying i don't know KTHN-AxjArg-00364-00065839-00066071 about you i actually hate this middle KTHN-AxjArg-00365-00066072-00066287 pillar i would try to get closer to one KTHN-AxjArg-00366-00066288-00066479 of these two side pillars and just kind KTHN-AxjArg-00367-00066480-00066638 of take advantage of the loss uh that KTHN-AxjArg-00368-00066639-00066767 way the shaman can't see cc and stuff KTHN-AxjArg-00369-00066768-00066919 like that but great job keeping your KTHN-AxjArg-00370-00066920-00067143 missed up and we get beautiful vip give KTHN-AxjArg-00371-00067144-00067382 me one more nice job we get sheared so KTHN-AxjArg-00372-00067383-00067726 you get sheared on nature which is KTHN-AxjArg-00373-00067727-00067959 it is not the best but what you can do KTHN-AxjArg-00374-00067960-00068111 when you're locked out is you can use KTHN-AxjArg-00375-00068112-00068335 your bone dust brew and that's that's KTHN-AxjArg-00376-00068336-00068511 really really good KTHN-AxjArg-00377-00068512-00068687 because now if you bonus brew here KTHN-AxjArg-00378-00068688-00068871 because it's on the g70 if you bone this KTHN-AxjArg-00379-00068872-00068982 brew KTHN-AxjArg-00380-00068983-00069143 and then you come out of the lockout KTHN-AxjArg-00381-00069144-00069319 it's going to land before then great you KTHN-AxjArg-00382-00069320-00069526 on here beautiful there's no shear great KTHN-AxjArg-00383-00069527-00069750 incap on the hex KTHN-AxjArg-00384-00069751-00069926 jordan velvet missed out KTHN-AxjArg-00385-00069927-00070343 oh okay so eulon in case you didn't know KTHN-AxjArg-00386-00070344-00070638 eulon really is useless unless you put KTHN-AxjArg-00387-00070639-00070879 enveloping missed out so right here oh KTHN-AxjArg-00388-00070880-00070999 right here would have been a beautiful KTHN-AxjArg-00389-00071000-00071150 time because you got the encap on the KTHN-AxjArg-00390-00071151-00071343 shaman demon hunter's too far away to KTHN-AxjArg-00391-00071344-00071487 kick you what you could do is you could KTHN-AxjArg-00392-00071488-00071631 also manatee if you have it you have KTHN-AxjArg-00393-00071632-00071806 manatee up manatee and velp you missed KTHN-AxjArg-00394-00071807-00072023 here with you on up KTHN-AxjArg-00395-00072024-00072199 and then put some belting breath on on KTHN-AxjArg-00396-00072200-00072399 your target and that's a huge hot with KTHN-AxjArg-00397-00072400-00072623 again you do more healing KTHN-AxjArg-00398-00072624-00072750 so just keep that in mind whenever you KTHN-AxjArg-00399-00072751-00072926 have you on trying to get involved we KTHN-AxjArg-00400-00072927-00073055 missed out on whoever's taking the most KTHN-AxjArg-00401-00073056-00073279 damage KTHN-AxjArg-00402-00073280-00073455 does that trinket KTHN-AxjArg-00403-00073456-00073591 did we trigger that or KTHN-AxjArg-00404-00073592-00073903 did it break i think it broke KTHN-AxjArg-00405-00073904-00074087 right KTHN-AxjArg-00406-00074088-00074247 he breaks it okay i thought it was blind KTHN-AxjArg-00407-00074248-00074399 there KTHN-AxjArg-00408-00074400-00074550 yeah definitely enveloping mist isn't KTHN-AxjArg-00409-00074551-00074735 bad to use and then i would yes see KTHN-AxjArg-00410-00074736-00074959 there okay so you see right here KTHN-AxjArg-00411-00074960-00075111 this is a hot cold enveloping breath KTHN-AxjArg-00412-00075112-00075294 i'll put something on the screen for you KTHN-AxjArg-00413-00075295-00075382 um KTHN-AxjArg-00414-00075383-00075591 but what it does is it's basically a hot KTHN-AxjArg-00415-00075592-00075743 but it also increases the healing on KTHN-AxjArg-00416-00075744-00075975 your target so that's why it's so i mean KTHN-AxjArg-00417-00075976-00076159 it's good it costs a lot of mana if you KTHN-AxjArg-00418-00076160-00076406 don't manatee it but it's good you want KTHN-AxjArg-00419-00076407-00076750 you know yulon you know KTHN-AxjArg-00420-00076751-00076879 julon KTHN-AxjArg-00421-00076880-00076982 um KTHN-AxjArg-00422-00076983-00077199 there's bonus brew perfect great great KTHN-AxjArg-00423-00077200-00077399 great time chain harvest chain harvest KTHN-AxjArg-00424-00077400-00077591 is event dear shaman i would KTHN-AxjArg-00425-00077592-00077703 now that we know that the shaman has KTHN-AxjArg-00426-00077704-00077855 been there i would even say it's even KTHN-AxjArg-00427-00077856-00078062 more of a kill target than before but KTHN-AxjArg-00428-00078063-00078238 yeah crank those healing out right now KTHN-AxjArg-00429-00078239-00078479 great uh heck's coming in hot nice we KTHN-AxjArg-00430-00078480-00078599 get this where morrison's winner's KTHN-AxjArg-00431-00078600-00078791 stunned on both of them i would go and KTHN-AxjArg-00432-00078792-00078903 there's a trinket as well from the KTHN-AxjArg-00433-00078904-00079103 shaman get a leg sweep on his head KTHN-AxjArg-00434-00079104-00079231 please in cap or KTHN-AxjArg-00435-00079232-00079438 in cap this hex and then like sweep him KTHN-AxjArg-00436-00079439-00079838 trinket like sweet KTHN-AxjArg-00437-00079839-00080126 that's okay that's all right all right KTHN-AxjArg-00438-00080127-00080287 wait can we just see if can i see if we KTHN-AxjArg-00439-00080288-00080503 kill a shaman oh no you gotta just KTHN-AxjArg-00440-00080504-00080719 swallow root nice um okay let's play it KTHN-AxjArg-00441-00080720-00080838 back i was getting a little excited KTHN-AxjArg-00442-00080839-00081167 there um so we get hexed into a hunt KTHN-AxjArg-00443-00081168-00081255 here KTHN-AxjArg-00444-00081256-00081438 instantly i would just diffuse magic KTHN-AxjArg-00445-00081439-00081687 because this dot is KTHN-AxjArg-00446-00081688-00081862 pretty significant it does quite a bit KTHN-AxjArg-00447-00081863-00082111 of damage so i would use diffuse magic KTHN-AxjArg-00448-00082112-00082247 here just trade it out throw renewing KTHN-AxjArg-00449-00082248-00082423 this on yourself and then what you could KTHN-AxjArg-00450-00082424-00082494 do KTHN-AxjArg-00451-00082495-00082638 is you could just peel for yourself here KTHN-AxjArg-00452-00082639-00082887 use encap if we have it and then just KTHN-AxjArg-00453-00082888-00083071 roll away that's what i would do to get KTHN-AxjArg-00454-00083072-00083199 away from this demon hunter and then KTHN-AxjArg-00455-00083200-00083350 reset your port as well i don't know KTHN-AxjArg-00456-00083351-00083471 your porch right here in the middle of KTHN-AxjArg-00457-00083472-00083655 the map KTHN-AxjArg-00458-00083656-00083831 you probably want to like move on one of KTHN-AxjArg-00459-00083832-00084023 the side pillars i would say so i would KTHN-AxjArg-00460-00084024-00084159 encap KTHN-AxjArg-00461-00084160-00084455 the spell root KTHN-AxjArg-00462-00084456-00084735 perfect we get kicked it's fine KTHN-AxjArg-00463-00084736-00084975 um KTHN-AxjArg-00464-00084976-00085111 nice drop KTHN-AxjArg-00465-00085112-00085294 please kill them oh my god this guy's at KTHN-AxjArg-00466-00085295-00085550 thank god okay the reason i made a face KTHN-AxjArg-00467-00085551-00085679 here KTHN-AxjArg-00468-00085680-00085887 the reason i made a face here is because KTHN-AxjArg-00469-00085888-00086079 the last thing you want to do a versus KTHN-AxjArg-00470-00086080-00086255 arrestor shaman KTHN-AxjArg-00471-00086256-00086399 is like push on to the wrestle shot KTHN-AxjArg-00472-00086400-00086567 because the shaman has kicks KTHN-AxjArg-00473-00086568-00086894 purges slows roots like hexes so the KTHN-AxjArg-00474-00086895-00087150 last thing you want to do KTHN-AxjArg-00475-00087151-00087359 is roll into a shaman KTHN-AxjArg-00476-00087360-00087575 almost though if you rolled onto this KTHN-AxjArg-00477-00087576-00087743 side of the pillar over here KTHN-AxjArg-00478-00087744-00087847 it would have been pretty good because KTHN-AxjArg-00479-00087848-00088079 then you're lost the shaman who who KTHN-AxjArg-00480-00088080-00088206 can't kick you and then you can also KTHN-AxjArg-00481-00088207-00088367 reset your port but i can see that we're KTHN-AxjArg-00482-00088368-00088479 also trying to get touch to death and KTHN-AxjArg-00483-00088480-00088655 really insane rob here to to deny the KTHN-AxjArg-00484-00088656-00088879 spirit only totem uh really really good KTHN-AxjArg-00485-00088880-00089055 job good game KTHN-AxjArg-00486-00089056-00089423 good good overall game um KTHN-AxjArg-00487-00089424-00089615 when you feel like you're falling behind KTHN-AxjArg-00488-00089616-00089767 or you're starting to freak out just KTHN-AxjArg-00489-00089768-00089903 like KTHN-AxjArg-00490-00089904-00090167 tone it down and then like take it down KTHN-AxjArg-00491-00090168-00090350 and then think like how how do we win KTHN-AxjArg-00492-00090351-00090623 this game and kill the rest of shaman i KTHN-AxjArg-00493-00090624-00090759 i told you you know KTHN-AxjArg-00494-00090760-00090887 wrestle shaman KTHN-AxjArg-00495-00090888-00091047 versus frost death knights rest of KTHN-AxjArg-00496-00091048-00091238 shaman really really struggle KTHN-AxjArg-00497-00091239-00091487 they just always have and they probably KTHN-AxjArg-00498-00091488-00091847 always will struggle it's kind of funny KTHN-AxjArg-00499-00091848-00092159 um all right we got arms warrior oh hey KTHN-AxjArg-00500-00092160-00092318 belly okay KTHN-AxjArg-00501-00092319-00092406 uh KTHN-AxjArg-00502-00092407-00092703 let's shoot this let's do this okay KTHN-AxjArg-00503-00092704-00092823 just make sure KTHN-AxjArg-00504-00092824-00092967 i'm recording the right screen it's been KTHN-AxjArg-00505-00092968-00093103 a week since i've recorded any videos KTHN-AxjArg-00506-00093104-00093335 all right let me see KTHN-AxjArg-00507-00093336-00093582 okay KTHN-AxjArg-00508-00093583-00093871 mr app is good cheater peter no good KTHN-AxjArg-00509-00093872-00094071 it's a holy pally so we have grapple KTHN-AxjArg-00510-00094072-00094167 weapon KTHN-AxjArg-00511-00094168-00094471 eminence peace weaver KTHN-AxjArg-00512-00094472-00094791 um KTHN-AxjArg-00513-00094792-00094991 yeah i mean obviously peace weaver is KTHN-AxjArg-00514-00094992-00095182 weird but i run it too like i can't KTHN-AxjArg-00515-00095183-00095318 blame him at all especially if he's KTHN-AxjArg-00516-00095319-00095462 curious like you just revival out of KTHN-AxjArg-00517-00095463-00095543 there KTHN-AxjArg-00518-00095544-00095726 um so if you don't know i normally go KTHN-AxjArg-00519-00095727-00095943 peaceweaver so i mean this is fine this KTHN-AxjArg-00520-00095944-00096038 is good KTHN-AxjArg-00521-00096039-00096191 warriors basically warriors come down to KTHN-AxjArg-00522-00096192-00096367 trading cooldowns for their cooldowns KTHN-AxjArg-00523-00096368-00096462 you can't KTHN-AxjArg-00524-00096463-00096671 you can't use your cooldowns you can't i KTHN-AxjArg-00525-00096672-00096862 mean you you literally can't KTHN-AxjArg-00526-00096863-00097031 or you'll die you can't use your KTHN-AxjArg-00527-00097032-00097206 cooldowns before they use theirs or you KTHN-AxjArg-00528-00097207-00097367 will die in a storm bowl KTHN-AxjArg-00529-00097368-00097599 or a hajj it's really scary versus holy KTHN-AxjArg-00530-00097600-00097879 pally version because KTHN-AxjArg-00531-00097880-00098055 they have a hajj so what you want to do KTHN-AxjArg-00532-00098056-00098182 is you want to save your eminence for KTHN-AxjArg-00533-00098183-00098335 hodges and not storm bolts you need to KTHN-AxjArg-00534-00098336-00098599 eat the storm bolts and pour the hodges KTHN-AxjArg-00535-00098600-00098711 which sucks KTHN-AxjArg-00536-00098712-00099015 essentially i mean oh okay my god just KTHN-AxjArg-00537-00099016-00099167 missed the spear we're on our port so we KTHN-AxjArg-00538-00099168-00099303 can't afford this KTHN-AxjArg-00539-00099304-00099447 fear KTHN-AxjArg-00540-00099448-00099574 this warrior is using everything right KTHN-AxjArg-00541-00099575-00099847 now what i what you should do KTHN-AxjArg-00542-00099848-00100111 is one you can ink cap the shackle KTHN-AxjArg-00543-00100112-00100423 or two just jump off the side here KTHN-AxjArg-00544-00100424-00100638 and be lost the warrior and force the KTHN-AxjArg-00545-00100639-00100911 warrior wait we okay wait one sec your KTHN-AxjArg-00546-00100912-00101399 dk ibf'd the hajj KTHN-AxjArg-00547-00101400-00101591 and guitar shear KTHN-AxjArg-00548-00101592-00101782 i probably wouldn't have ibf if i was KTHN-AxjArg-00549-00101783-00101862 him KTHN-AxjArg-00550-00101863-00101991 especially since the warriors not KTHN-AxjArg-00551-00101992-00102191 hitting him KTHN-AxjArg-00552-00102192-00102463 you know i i don't play a death knight KTHN-AxjArg-00553-00102464-00102686 so maybe there's like a reason KTHN-AxjArg-00554-00102688-00102815 but i don't think the reason is good KTHN-AxjArg-00555-00102816-00103015 enough to justify ivf thing when the KTHN-AxjArg-00556-00103016-00103151 warrior isn't hitting you but that's KTHN-AxjArg-00557-00103152-00103230 fine KTHN-AxjArg-00558-00103231-00103351 nice all right we got bubble all right KTHN-AxjArg-00559-00103352-00103423 yeah KTHN-AxjArg-00560-00103424-00103566 ibf is worth you have colossal smash on KTHN-AxjArg-00561-00103567-00103982 you so good rob here oh KTHN-AxjArg-00562-00103983-00104199 listen to me you won't get it you won't KTHN-AxjArg-00563-00104200-00104310 get this knock you won't know why KTHN-AxjArg-00564-00104311-00104478 because i try to get i try to knock KTHN-AxjArg-00565-00104479-00104758 warriors off them off this all the time KTHN-AxjArg-00566-00104759-00104910 okay it works for you doesn't work for KTHN-AxjArg-00567-00104911-00105223 me i swear it just never works for me um KTHN-AxjArg-00568-00105224-00105478 good rob good enough we need to run you KTHN-AxjArg-00569-00105479-00105710 know you know what you need to do KTHN-AxjArg-00570-00105711-00105807 run KTHN-AxjArg-00571-00105808-00106063 don't stick around see this warrior like KTHN-AxjArg-00572-00106064-00106239 just think that this warrior is trying KTHN-AxjArg-00573-00106240-00106431 to kill you he's trying to kill you KTHN-AxjArg-00574-00106432-00106647 don't stick around what after the really KTHN-AxjArg-00575-00106648-00106783 good knock here i would just come over KTHN-AxjArg-00576-00106783-00106886 here KTHN-AxjArg-00577-00106888-00107102 and force the warrior to run through KTHN-AxjArg-00578-00107103-00107215 your death knight also you should be KTHN-AxjArg-00579-00107216-00107383 telling your death knight right now yo KTHN-AxjArg-00580-00107383-00107583 after this blade storm please god put a KTHN-AxjArg-00581-00107583-00107775 chains of ice on him and you need your KTHN-AxjArg-00582-00107776-00107958 warrior to keep not your warrior KTHN-AxjArg-00583-00107959-00108175 definitely to keep chains of icing the KTHN-AxjArg-00584-00108176-00108383 warrior repeatedly over and over and KTHN-AxjArg-00585-00108383-00108647 over and over again KTHN-AxjArg-00586-00108648-00108766 uh but yeah don't run towards this KTHN-AxjArg-00587-00108767-00108910 warrior i mean you want to roll away and KTHN-AxjArg-00588-00108911-00109127 then do we have disarm or do we use it KTHN-AxjArg-00589-00109128-00109358 yet KTHN-AxjArg-00590-00109359-00109654 yes okay okay good perfect KTHN-AxjArg-00591-00109655-00109799 good luck sweep KTHN-AxjArg-00592-00109800-00109958 uh it's dr though i guess it's not that KTHN-AxjArg-00593-00109959-00110143 good it's the r stone so it's not the KTHN-AxjArg-00594-00110144-00110302 greatest luck sweep here could have KTHN-AxjArg-00595-00110303-00110502 waited i think eight seconds KTHN-AxjArg-00596-00110503-00110734 seven eleven ten nine KTHN-AxjArg-00597-00110735-00110863 eight KTHN-AxjArg-00598-00110864-00110943 seven KTHN-AxjArg-00599-00110944-00111063 six seconds KTHN-AxjArg-00600-00111064-00111239 to get a full leg sweep so probably not KTHN-AxjArg-00601-00111240-00111495 the most useful like sweep KTHN-AxjArg-00602-00111496-00111615 uh make sure you keep doing this on KTHN-AxjArg-00603-00111616-00111783 yourself don't stick around i swear KTHN-AxjArg-00604-00111783-00111975 you're you're actually terrifying me KTHN-AxjArg-00605-00111976-00112263 right now um do not stick around versus KTHN-AxjArg-00606-00112264-00112431 a warrior i mean this warrior is KTHN-AxjArg-00607-00112432-00112566 slightly under geared but he could still KTHN-AxjArg-00608-00112567-00113110 smash us they still smash miss weaver um KTHN-AxjArg-00609-00113111-00113319 yeah KTHN-AxjArg-00610-00113320-00113510 in cap he is zerker rage so warriors KTHN-AxjArg-00611-00113511-00113719 have this ability right here KTHN-AxjArg-00612-00113720-00113847 this little KTHN-AxjArg-00613-00113848-00113983 angry looking fellow right here what it KTHN-AxjArg-00614-00113983-00114199 does is it removes that it removes and KTHN-AxjArg-00615-00114200-00114447 makes them immune to like fears in caps KTHN-AxjArg-00616-00114448-00114639 charms i think so KTHN-AxjArg-00617-00114640-00114847 it's a 30 second uh is that minute KTHN-AxjArg-00618-00114848-00115054 cooldown at least a minute cooldown so KTHN-AxjArg-00619-00115055-00115199 if you end cap there it just doesn't KTHN-AxjArg-00620-00115200-00115375 matter because um KTHN-AxjArg-00621-00115376-00115510 he just get out of it this might be KTHN-AxjArg-00622-00115511-00115758 spear so be careful nice nice nice good KTHN-AxjArg-00623-00115759-00115951 that was this is sharpen too and you KTHN-AxjArg-00624-00115952-00116119 also want battle stance all right great KTHN-AxjArg-00625-00116120-00116366 yes yes yes good perfect KTHN-AxjArg-00626-00116367-00116671 now roll away keep rolling like cocoon KTHN-AxjArg-00627-00116672-00116902 we had another roll yeah perfect see KTHN-AxjArg-00628-00116903-00117175 and he had no mobility so maybe a waste KTHN-AxjArg-00629-00117176-00117286 of life cocoon but i can kind of KTHN-AxjArg-00630-00117288-00117415 understand it it's getting a little KTHN-AxjArg-00631-00117416-00117551 scary right now KTHN-AxjArg-00632-00117552-00117719 um KTHN-AxjArg-00633-00117720-00118143 duke on the warrior there perfect KTHN-AxjArg-00634-00118144-00118439 disarm on the warrior KTHN-AxjArg-00635-00118440-00118583 it doesn't KTHN-AxjArg-00636-00118583-00118710 see the problem right now is i don't KTHN-AxjArg-00637-00118711-00118895 believe that was war breaker KTHN-AxjArg-00638-00118896-00119054 because you don't have the debuff on you KTHN-AxjArg-00639-00119055-00119151 so KTHN-AxjArg-00640-00119152-00119415 oh this is scary you might okay good all KTHN-AxjArg-00641-00119416-00119543 right we're doing okay we're doing okay KTHN-AxjArg-00642-00119544-00119727 we have rob as well so we get kicked KTHN-AxjArg-00643-00119728-00119927 which is probably not the best uh we're KTHN-AxjArg-00644-00119928-00120127 trying to pour it KTHN-AxjArg-00645-00120128-00120478 okay okay when we get okay first off KTHN-AxjArg-00646-00120479-00120663 let's see let's see kind of where when KTHN-AxjArg-00647-00120664-00120854 uh for right here it started going KTHN-AxjArg-00648-00120855-00121031 downhill right here i'm not gonna lie KTHN-AxjArg-00649-00121032-00121263 this is where i went downhill i'm sorry KTHN-AxjArg-00650-00121264-00121502 versus warriors what you want to do like KTHN-AxjArg-00651-00121503-00121758 straight up you you don't KTHN-AxjArg-00652-00121759-00121966 you play a little game with yourself and KTHN-AxjArg-00653-00121967-00122047 see KTHN-AxjArg-00654-00122048-00122310 what what i do is i see how long i can KTHN-AxjArg-00655-00122311-00122502 go without the warrior hitting me that's KTHN-AxjArg-00656-00122503-00122663 what you want to do you want to go KTHN-AxjArg-00657-00122664-00122863 as long as you can without this warrior KTHN-AxjArg-00658-00122864-00123110 touching you nothing he make it so he KTHN-AxjArg-00659-00123111-00123247 can't touch you at all so this is a KTHN-AxjArg-00660-00123248-00123534 really good rob don't stick around run i KTHN-AxjArg-00661-00123535-00123695 mean seriously like literally run for KTHN-AxjArg-00662-00123696-00123854 your life i would have maybe he's KTHN-AxjArg-00663-00123855-00124071 bladestorming up the middle um so i KTHN-AxjArg-00664-00124072-00124223 would probably KTHN-AxjArg-00665-00124224-00124463 you know roll towards this ramp over KTHN-AxjArg-00666-00124464-00124599 here because you it is a two's game KTHN-AxjArg-00667-00124600-00124814 right so and then i was saying hey yo uh KTHN-AxjArg-00668-00124815-00124910 zen KTHN-AxjArg-00669-00124911-00125199 zan log zayn log can you please KTHN-AxjArg-00670-00125200-00125375 change the vice the warrior as much as KTHN-AxjArg-00671-00125376-00125463 you can KTHN-AxjArg-00672-00125464-00125671 off cooldown such and grip and grip the KTHN-AxjArg-00673-00125672-00125886 warrior oh you know grip KTHN-AxjArg-00674-00125888-00125983 slow KTHN-AxjArg-00675-00125983-00126158 anything like that to just get them away KTHN-AxjArg-00676-00126159-00126343 from you do it please and then as soon KTHN-AxjArg-00677-00126344-00126510 as you cut away over here KTHN-AxjArg-00678-00126511-00126727 you you like decently fine uh but KTHN-AxjArg-00679-00126728-00126951 instead we kind of push it onto them and KTHN-AxjArg-00680-00126952-00127175 for a dr likes whip into it and cap that KTHN-AxjArg-00681-00127176-00127495 and then because of that we have support KTHN-AxjArg-00682-00127496-00127743 so that's not that's not really great KTHN-AxjArg-00683-00127744-00127927 and then and then we drew here i don't KTHN-AxjArg-00684-00127928-00128095 know so right here we could have been KTHN-AxjArg-00685-00128096-00128366 fine um he can't hit he can't he can't KTHN-AxjArg-00686-00128367-00128534 interrupt you from range so and he KTHN-AxjArg-00687-00128535-00128710 already used storm mode so you should be KTHN-AxjArg-00688-00128711-00128863 good i would say KTHN-AxjArg-00689-00128864-00128999 just it and vote for miss on yourself KTHN-AxjArg-00690-00129000-00129254 here you got 100 mana you know among the KTHN-AxjArg-00691-00129255-00129583 pally's at 44 at 44 at 44 oh my god 88 KTHN-AxjArg-00692-00129583-00129719 percent so KTHN-AxjArg-00693-00129720-00129839 i would have thrown a velvet mist on KTHN-AxjArg-00694-00129840-00130119 myself here and been fine i really like KTHN-AxjArg-00695-00130120-00130334 the porting down below though KTHN-AxjArg-00696-00130335-00130566 and this this right here is where i KTHN-AxjArg-00697-00130567-00130751 would have leg swept the warrior um KTHN-AxjArg-00698-00130752-00130966 instead of the dr stun up top this is KTHN-AxjArg-00699-00130967-00131071 where it would have like swept them KTHN-AxjArg-00700-00131072-00131254 because the pally can't pop them to get KTHN-AxjArg-00701-00131255-00131414 out can't freedom them to get away KTHN-AxjArg-00702-00131415-00131583 nothing so i would have like swept here KTHN-AxjArg-00703-00131584-00131711 and then rolled away because you have a KTHN-AxjArg-00704-00131712-00131966 roll right here a cheat torpedo KTHN-AxjArg-00705-00131967-00132143 and then i would have went upstairs so KTHN-AxjArg-00706-00132144-00132239 and then you wouldn't have had a life KTHN-AxjArg-00707-00132240-00132463 cocoon which is great and you see he has KTHN-AxjArg-00708-00132464-00132695 no mobility bonus brew is good too and KTHN-AxjArg-00709-00132696-00132919 then KTHN-AxjArg-00710-00132920-00133102 yeah i think we get kind of KTHN-AxjArg-00711-00133103-00133327 just uh kind of rough here oh also we KTHN-AxjArg-00712-00133328-00133519 disarm i don't he doesn't have work oh KTHN-AxjArg-00713-00133520-00133735 he used warbreaker now okay this was a KTHN-AxjArg-00714-00133736-00133999 good do we disarm here KTHN-AxjArg-00715-00134000-00134239 okay it was a good disarm my bad my bad KTHN-AxjArg-00716-00134240-00134454 yeah good this is perfect KTHN-AxjArg-00717-00134455-00134575 and then what do we have we still have KTHN-AxjArg-00718-00134576-00134719 eulon KTHN-AxjArg-00719-00134720-00135054 we have revival for the peace weaver um KTHN-AxjArg-00720-00135055-00135295 we have damp and harm as well so KTHN-AxjArg-00721-00135296-00135414 we have cooldowns here but i think we KTHN-AxjArg-00722-00135415-00135607 get kicked i think we try to juke here KTHN-AxjArg-00723-00135608-00135823 yeah we get stunned uh we've trinket KTHN-AxjArg-00724-00135824-00136054 okay late trigger was fine and then KTHN-AxjArg-00725-00136055-00136239 mulan here and then here's the problem KTHN-AxjArg-00726-00136240-00136390 right here you get kicked you could KTHN-AxjArg-00727-00136391-00136647 still use cooldowns like you could still KTHN-AxjArg-00728-00136648-00136735 roll KTHN-AxjArg-00729-00136736-00136911 and dampen harm KTHN-AxjArg-00730-00136912-00137095 while kicked KTHN-AxjArg-00731-00137096-00137254 so what i don't think this warrior has KTHN-AxjArg-00732-00137255-00137383 any mobility left and what you could KTHN-AxjArg-00733-00137384-00137695 have done is roll off the edge KTHN-AxjArg-00734-00137696-00137871 and if he chased you you can in cap KTHN-AxjArg-00735-00137872-00137975 because you see this cooldown this KTHN-AxjArg-00736-00137976-00138214 ability right here the circuit reach KTHN-AxjArg-00737-00138215-00138447 it that gets rid of ink cap it's on KTHN-AxjArg-00738-00138448-00138599 cooldown for 20 seconds and you have KTHN-AxjArg-00739-00138600-00138839 incap so if you roll away and he chases KTHN-AxjArg-00740-00138840-00138975 after you you can encap him he has no KTHN-AxjArg-00741-00138976-00139183 trinket and you get away and then you KTHN-AxjArg-00742-00139184-00139439 can pour it from keep running so KTHN-AxjArg-00743-00139440-00139766 biggest biggest takeaway from this game KTHN-AxjArg-00744-00139767-00139983 get away from warriors man they they're KTHN-AxjArg-00745-00139984-00140159 not trying to give you a hug they ain't KTHN-AxjArg-00746-00140160-00140302 trying to hug you they're trying to kill KTHN-AxjArg-00747-00140303-00140439 you KTHN-AxjArg-00748-00140440-00140695 you know and try try not to d or leg KTHN-AxjArg-00749-00140696-00140959 sweep um try to hold on to as much you KTHN-AxjArg-00750-00140960-00141047 can KTHN-AxjArg-00751-00141048-00141199 and then KTHN-AxjArg-00752-00141200-00141414 kite down below KTHN-AxjArg-00753-00141415-00141647 and then pour it up when you can because KTHN-AxjArg-00754-00141648-00141823 then like you're not in line of them to KTHN-AxjArg-00755-00141824-00141966 like leave charge you or like just KTHN-AxjArg-00756-00141967-00142078 charge you KTHN-AxjArg-00757-00142079-00142207 hopefully that's helpful warriors are KTHN-AxjArg-00758-00142208-00142319 kind of annoying though they they are KTHN-AxjArg-00759-00142320-00142590 annoying um KTHN-AxjArg-00760-00142591-00142766 but you can it's possible to beat them KTHN-AxjArg-00761-00142767-00142935 it's just really freaking annoying man KTHN-AxjArg-00762-00142936-00143166 all right wind walk or holy pally KTHN-AxjArg-00763-00143167-00143375 versus miss beaver death lane KTHN-AxjArg-00764-00143376-00143583 pour it down good this is a very tough KTHN-AxjArg-00765-00143584-00143839 matchup this is very very tough matchup KTHN-AxjArg-00766-00143840-00143951 um KTHN-AxjArg-00767-00143952-00144111 because wind walkers kind of own death KTHN-AxjArg-00768-00144112-00144343 knights KTHN-AxjArg-00769-00144344-00144463 so KTHN-AxjArg-00770-00144464-00144647 i made sure to see how this goes KTHN-AxjArg-00771-00144648-00144871 holy pallies though holy pally's kind of KTHN-AxjArg-00772-00144872-00145126 take it from frost death knights as well KTHN-AxjArg-00773-00145127-00145575 to spell that hodge good your gk KTHN-AxjArg-00774-00145576-00145887 ibf's the first on every game KTHN-AxjArg-00775-00145888-00146102 and that's not good for you because now KTHN-AxjArg-00776-00146103-00146295 the windwalker KTHN-AxjArg-00777-00146296-00146487 sees how to use ibf KTHN-AxjArg-00778-00146488-00146695 and then KTHN-AxjArg-00779-00146696-00146959 like swaps to you so KTHN-AxjArg-00780-00146960-00147078 maybe be a little bit quicker on the KTHN-AxjArg-00781-00147079-00147207 dispels but that's pretty much it i KTHN-AxjArg-00782-00147208-00147399 don't know he keeps KTHN-AxjArg-00783-00147400-00147639 like did we dispel KTHN-AxjArg-00784-00147640-00148135 where's our dispo KTHN-AxjArg-00785-00148136-00148335 no i guess not all right KTHN-AxjArg-00786-00148336-00148454 probably just follow it faster because KTHN-AxjArg-00787-00148455-00148614 this guy's got a trigger finger for his KTHN-AxjArg-00788-00148615-00148823 ivf and then the wind wagger swaps to KTHN-AxjArg-00789-00148824-00149102 you nice oh that was really nice okay i KTHN-AxjArg-00790-00149103-00149271 would like sweep here and then okay did KTHN-AxjArg-00791-00149272-00149407 we just spell that i think we did nice KTHN-AxjArg-00792-00149408-00149583 no we tried it KTHN-AxjArg-00793-00149584-00149823 okay utk is very aggressive and i you KTHN-AxjArg-00794-00149824-00149966 know what i honestly commend it i really KTHN-AxjArg-00795-00149967-00150159 do but i would say hopefully if they KTHN-AxjArg-00796-00150160-00150302 don't kill him we got bubble which is KTHN-AxjArg-00797-00150303-00150390 good KTHN-AxjArg-00798-00150391-00150639 blinding sleet on the windwalker KTHN-AxjArg-00799-00150640-00150767 um KTHN-AxjArg-00800-00150768-00150983 [Music] KTHN-AxjArg-00801-00150984-00151271 in cap KTHN-AxjArg-00802-00151272-00151511 okay no lightsaber or anything KTHN-AxjArg-00803-00151512-00151631 i would start cutting away from your KTHN-AxjArg-00804-00151632-00151911 port yeah oh KTHN-AxjArg-00805-00151912-00152175 oh no i hope we're playing eminence but KTHN-AxjArg-00806-00152176-00152302 okay there's okay KTHN-AxjArg-00807-00152303-00152447 okay there's like sweep i was gonna say KTHN-AxjArg-00808-00152448-00152543 man KTHN-AxjArg-00809-00152544-00152687 you might have been in some trouble and KTHN-AxjArg-00810-00152688-00152887 and he's spinning to win KTHN-AxjArg-00811-00152888-00153078 yeah great i don't think the pally has KTHN-AxjArg-00812-00153079-00153695 any cc no wait revival there KTHN-AxjArg-00813-00153696-00153831 oh my god i cannot believe you just KTHN-AxjArg-00814-00153832-00154023 lived that this one walker is not happy KTHN-AxjArg-00815-00154024-00154151 you know his touchdown didn't light up KTHN-AxjArg-00816-00154152-00154311 that entire time KTHN-AxjArg-00817-00154312-00154423 but when you missed on yourself KTHN-AxjArg-00818-00154424-00154631 beautiful good stun here as well KTHN-AxjArg-00819-00154632-00154799 um so this is a really good let's let's KTHN-AxjArg-00820-00154800-00154990 let's see here the most KTHN-AxjArg-00821-00154991-00155199 the best time you can learn KTHN-AxjArg-00822-00155200-00155487 is when your team the globals you use KTHN-AxjArg-00823-00155488-00155726 right before someone is about to die KTHN-AxjArg-00824-00155727-00155847 that was the most important globals in KTHN-AxjArg-00825-00155848-00156014 the game so let's see let's see what we KTHN-AxjArg-00826-00156015-00156102 use KTHN-AxjArg-00827-00156103-00156254 actually let's let's bring it back a KTHN-AxjArg-00828-00156255-00156383 little bit let's bring it back all right KTHN-AxjArg-00829-00156384-00156575 we freaked out we used development we KTHN-AxjArg-00830-00156576-00156735 didn't freak out i mean they're freaking KTHN-AxjArg-00831-00156736-00156943 out KTHN-AxjArg-00832-00156944-00157135 okay KTHN-AxjArg-00833-00157136-00157407 oh we break okay okay biggest if there's KTHN-AxjArg-00834-00157408-00157583 any take away any takeaway from this KTHN-AxjArg-00835-00157584-00157799 video right here KTHN-AxjArg-00836-00157800-00158031 you got two stacks of cloud of focus two KTHN-AxjArg-00837-00158032-00158278 stacks KTHN-AxjArg-00838-00158279-00158495 please use enveloping mist for the like KTHN-AxjArg-00839-00158496-00158663 please evolve plus you have nourishing KTHN-AxjArg-00840-00158664-00158743 qi KTHN-AxjArg-00841-00158744-00158926 conduit active which buffs your healing KTHN-AxjArg-00842-00158927-00159095 so please KTHN-AxjArg-00843-00159096-00159247 use the enveloping mist don't be afraid KTHN-AxjArg-00844-00159248-00159375 to use enveloping mist there's nothing KTHN-AxjArg-00845-00159376-00159471 wrong with it there's there's nothing KTHN-AxjArg-00846-00159472-00159654 where you also have thunder focus t so KTHN-AxjArg-00847-00159655-00159887 use thunder focus team vlp mist way more KTHN-AxjArg-00848-00159888-00160031 often especially when you have snacks of KTHN-AxjArg-00849-00160032-00160183 clouded focus KTHN-AxjArg-00850-00160184-00160366 it's so much healing like it is so much KTHN-AxjArg-00851-00160367-00160487 it would it'll help so much and they KTHN-AxjArg-00852-00160488-00160719 don't have any purges so you know the KTHN-AxjArg-00853-00160720-00160887 hot sticks let me tell you something KTHN-AxjArg-00854-00160888-00161102 it's incredible so and then we move and KTHN-AxjArg-00855-00161103-00161223 break our stacks and then we lose our KTHN-AxjArg-00856-00161224-00161407 nourishing qi i cannot believe we didn't KTHN-AxjArg-00857-00161408-00161551 die here though i'm going to be honest i KTHN-AxjArg-00858-00161552-00161631 am KTHN-AxjArg-00859-00161632-00161966 very surprised KTHN-AxjArg-00860-00161967-00162135 they have encampment now there's a KTHN-AxjArg-00861-00162136-00162487 double fist wings from the pally KTHN-AxjArg-00862-00162488-00162671 double stun from us wait what are we KTHN-AxjArg-00863-00162672-00163199 doing right now KTHN-AxjArg-00864-00163200-00163326 all right yeah i know i would definitely KTHN-AxjArg-00865-00163327-00163543 be spam healing like i i like the KTHN-AxjArg-00866-00163544-00163711 renewing miss like just put the renewist KTHN-AxjArg-00867-00163712-00163863 on him and then KTHN-AxjArg-00868-00163864-00164151 oh we get yulon out oh my god oh my god KTHN-AxjArg-00869-00164152-00164335 i cannot believe we just left that holy KTHN-AxjArg-00870-00164336-00164487 cow okay KTHN-AxjArg-00871-00164488-00164702 we lived it we'd love to report which is KTHN-AxjArg-00872-00164703-00164990 good KTHN-AxjArg-00873-00164991-00165214 and now it's our turn now it's our turn KTHN-AxjArg-00874-00165215-00165383 um we have you on up great hot here you KTHN-AxjArg-00875-00165384-00165526 get the nice little developing breath KTHN-AxjArg-00876-00165527-00165735 hot which is great and KTHN-AxjArg-00877-00165736-00165895 but now it's a good time to put new must KTHN-AxjArg-00878-00165896-00166063 himself great bonus brew here as well KTHN-AxjArg-00879-00166064-00166199 because we are taking damage again like KTHN-AxjArg-00880-00166200-00166375 i'm like i said in the beginning what KTHN-AxjArg-00881-00166376-00166526 death knights kind of take it for monks KTHN-AxjArg-00882-00166527-00166759 they really do um so just keep that in KTHN-AxjArg-00883-00166760-00166919 mind and it looks like they kind of want KTHN-AxjArg-00884-00166920-00167038 to swap to you chi burst is an KTHN-AxjArg-00885-00167039-00167166 interesting option from the wind walker KTHN-AxjArg-00886-00167167-00167375 i would okay yeah i would go for an ink KTHN-AxjArg-00887-00167376-00167623 cap here on the pally probably yeah i KTHN-AxjArg-00888-00167624-00167726 would go for an ink cap here on the KTHN-AxjArg-00889-00167727-00167966 pally on this heel KTHN-AxjArg-00890-00167967-00168126 that way because he is on for parents KTHN-AxjArg-00891-00168127-00168390 for 15 seconds and the pally has no KTHN-AxjArg-00892-00168391-00168695 trinket or a bubble KTHN-AxjArg-00893-00168696-00168831 yes great KTHN-AxjArg-00894-00168832-00169014 beautiful maybe a little bit quicker but KTHN-AxjArg-00895-00169015-00169214 beautiful and there's a mounted trinket KTHN-AxjArg-00896-00169215-00169383 coming out that's defused magic as well KTHN-AxjArg-00897-00169384-00169575 put back on to you blinding sleek comes KTHN-AxjArg-00898-00169576-00169831 out so right here this is the ideal time KTHN-AxjArg-00899-00169832-00169999 this is when KTHN-AxjArg-00900-00170000-00170135 you'd go in for a double leg sweep KTHN-AxjArg-00901-00170136-00170326 pretty much KTHN-AxjArg-00902-00170327-00170471 and it looks like we're getting a lot of KTHN-AxjArg-00903-00170472-00170614 damage going out here on the windwalker KTHN-AxjArg-00904-00170615-00170878 great silence on the palate too KTHN-AxjArg-00905-00170879-00171038 and it looks like the wind walker did we KTHN-AxjArg-00906-00171039-00171423 reset our port i don't yeah no we didn't KTHN-AxjArg-00907-00171424-00171495 no KTHN-AxjArg-00908-00171496-00171743 no we did not okay KTHN-AxjArg-00909-00171744-00171935 thankfully he uses rob defensive no get KTHN-AxjArg-00910-00171936-00172063 out of there no no no you don't want to KTHN-AxjArg-00911-00172064-00172183 stick around see this is like the KTHN-AxjArg-00912-00172184-00172383 warrior game don't stick around this KTHN-AxjArg-00913-00172384-00172526 wind walker isn't trying to like be KTHN-AxjArg-00914-00172527-00172654 friends with you you want to you want to KTHN-AxjArg-00915-00172655-00172847 really get out of there as much as you KTHN-AxjArg-00916-00172848-00172926 can KTHN-AxjArg-00917-00172927-00173071 and KTHN-AxjArg-00918-00173072-00173238 roll so what i would do is i put a drop KTHN-AxjArg-00919-00173239-00173383 down right here KTHN-AxjArg-00920-00173384-00173535 great job and then roll behind this KTHN-AxjArg-00921-00173536-00173631 pillar KTHN-AxjArg-00922-00173632-00173743 that's what i would do cheat torpedo KTHN-AxjArg-00923-00173744-00174063 behind the pillar KTHN-AxjArg-00924-00174064-00174207 we self trinket which is great yeah i KTHN-AxjArg-00925-00174208-00174366 would not be pushing i would definitely KTHN-AxjArg-00926-00174367-00174502 not be trying to get close to this KTHN-AxjArg-00927-00174503-00174647 woodworker at all KTHN-AxjArg-00928-00174648-00174999 like at all great job resetting port KTHN-AxjArg-00929-00175000-00175135 gotta get you know get some healing KTHN-AxjArg-00930-00175136-00175319 going out beautiful beautiful KTHN-AxjArg-00931-00175320-00175447 uh i would put renewing this great KTHN-AxjArg-00932-00175448-00175543 there's an envelope we put we're doing KTHN-AxjArg-00933-00175544-00175823 missed out oh oh oh god okay okay end KTHN-AxjArg-00934-00175824-00176007 gap okay KTHN-AxjArg-00935-00176008-00176143 god you're scaring me you're scaring me KTHN-AxjArg-00936-00176144-00176375 but oh my god this was a pretty pretty KTHN-AxjArg-00937-00176376-00176638 fun game to watch um KTHN-AxjArg-00938-00176639-00176766 the biggest takeaway it's actually KTHN-AxjArg-00939-00176767-00176887 really good because each these videos KTHN-AxjArg-00940-00176888-00177038 has something or issue these games as KTHN-AxjArg-00941-00177039-00177190 something that like KTHN-AxjArg-00942-00177191-00177383 you can work on which is really nice um KTHN-AxjArg-00943-00177384-00177511 normally it's like the same issue but KTHN-AxjArg-00944-00177512-00177687 it's actually like cool that you could KTHN-AxjArg-00945-00177688-00177887 you can you have different it's nice so KTHN-AxjArg-00946-00177888-00178111 this one right here just comes down to KTHN-AxjArg-00947-00178112-00178423 using your cooldowns it's double dps KTHN-AxjArg-00948-00178424-00178551 so KTHN-AxjArg-00949-00178552-00178735 just use your cooldowns you know use KTHN-AxjArg-00950-00178736-00178926 your yulon get your hots out as much you KTHN-AxjArg-00951-00178927-00179031 can KTHN-AxjArg-00952-00179032-00179214 um use your legs if they get stacked or KTHN-AxjArg-00953-00179215-00179454 if they're on top of you and yeah KTHN-AxjArg-00954-00179455-00179614 overall just try to stay far away and KTHN-AxjArg-00955-00179615-00179790 just heal they don't have a lot of cc uh KTHN-AxjArg-00956-00179791-00179919 this one right here the demon hunter KTHN-AxjArg-00957-00179920-00180023 game KTHN-AxjArg-00958-00180024-00180238 i think this was we beat them yeah this KTHN-AxjArg-00959-00180239-00180390 just came down to target choosing you KTHN-AxjArg-00960-00180391-00180607 know kill that shaman instead of the the KTHN-AxjArg-00961-00180608-00180847 demon hunter and then try to line up KTHN-AxjArg-00962-00180848-00180983 your cooldowns with the hunt great KTHN-AxjArg-00963-00180984-00181223 disarms on the meta as well um make sure KTHN-AxjArg-00964-00181224-00181359 you put your them on that map KTHN-AxjArg-00965-00181360-00181566 specifically i would put your port kind KTHN-AxjArg-00966-00181567-00181719 of like on one of the side ones not the KTHN-AxjArg-00967-00181720-00181878 middle one the ramp one is just a KTHN-AxjArg-00968-00181879-00181999 nightmare especially for healing and KTHN-AxjArg-00969-00182000-00182143 loss so KTHN-AxjArg-00970-00182144-00182343 try to put your port on like one of the KTHN-AxjArg-00971-00182344-00182519 side pillars and then KTHN-AxjArg-00972-00182520-00182743 just heal from range kite use your ink KTHN-AxjArg-00973-00182744-00182919 cap and legs repeal for yourself this KTHN-AxjArg-00974-00182920-00183087 warrior game really it just comes down KTHN-AxjArg-00975-00183088-00183238 to one mistake but there's a chain KTHN-AxjArg-00976-00183239-00183414 reaction uh just get away from the KTHN-AxjArg-00977-00183415-00183566 warrior as much as you can whenever you KTHN-AxjArg-00978-00183567-00183766 see war breaker use disarm KTHN-AxjArg-00979-00183767-00183959 and try to kite underneath like KTHN-AxjArg-00980-00183960-00184166 underneath the the bridge KTHN-AxjArg-00981-00184167-00184271 that way KTHN-AxjArg-00982-00184272-00184487 when you pour it up they can't really KTHN-AxjArg-00983-00184488-00184631 get to you it's kind of making it makes KTHN-AxjArg-00984-00184632-00184783 it difficult and if they do leap up to KTHN-AxjArg-00985-00184784-00184990 get to you just use robin knock them off KTHN-AxjArg-00986-00184991-00185151 again and basically make warriors life KTHN-AxjArg-00987-00185152-00185351 hell because KTHN-AxjArg-00988-00185352-00185526 who likes warrior you know and then this KTHN-AxjArg-00989-00185527-00185678 last one uh KTHN-AxjArg-00990-00185679-00185919 healing rotation i think um these other KTHN-AxjArg-00991-00185920-00186102 ones were pretty good but KTHN-AxjArg-00992-00186103-00186199 definitely make sure you keep renewing KTHN-AxjArg-00993-00186200-00186447 this on yourself and your teammates but KTHN-AxjArg-00994-00186448-00186623 healing wise healing rotation when you KTHN-AxjArg-00995-00186624-00186759 have your feet planted and you're using KTHN-AxjArg-00996-00186760-00186911 cloud of focus KTHN-AxjArg-00997-00186912-00187190 if you got two if you have two stacks KTHN-AxjArg-00998-00187191-00187335 just and no enveloping missed and your KTHN-AxjArg-00999-00187336-00187526 teammate is dying the under focus t and KTHN-AxjArg-01000-00187527-00187838 velocity met invo enveloping mist is KTHN-AxjArg-01001-00187839-00188031 it's it's insane it's it'll it'll save KTHN-AxjArg-01002-00188032-00188207 you it uses mana but it'll save you mana KTHN-AxjArg-01003-00188208-00188559 compared to just spamming vivifies um KTHN-AxjArg-01004-00188560-00188695 but yeah overall this last game was KTHN-AxjArg-01005-00188696-00188799 really fun to watch i'm not gonna lie KTHN-AxjArg-01006-00188800-00188990 that was a lot of fun to watch and uh KTHN-AxjArg-01007-00188991-00189311 that is pretty much it for me i am happy KTHN-AxjArg-01008-00189312-00189454 to finally do another monk monday it's KTHN-AxjArg-01009-00189455-00189566 been a while but hopefully this was KTHN-AxjArg-01010-00189567-00189695 helpful for you techers or anyone KTHN-AxjArg-01011-00189696-00189783 watching KTHN-AxjArg-01012-00189784-00189871 um KTHN-AxjArg-01013-00189872-00190150 and i think that is KTHN-AxjArg-01014-00190151-00190335 it hope everyone has a fantastic rest of KTHN-AxjArg-01015-00190336-00190495 the day hope you enjoy the video and 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ballast water mixed with rain and was KUT_wmUenLM-00008-00002131-00002298 swept through the car by the frigid wind KUT_wmUenLM-00009-00002299-00002529 yet Binks was warmed by the heat KUT_wmUenLM-00010-00002530-00002727 radiating from the car's engine a few KUT_wmUenLM-00011-00002728-00002946 feet from him no cover or enclosure KUT_wmUenLM-00012-00002947-00003141 protected him from this monster of an KUT_wmUenLM-00013-00003142-00003399 engine nine feet long a foot and a half KUT_wmUenLM-00014-00003400-00003627 wide and weighing nearly two and a half KUT_wmUenLM-00015-00003628-00003909 tons its exposed surface so hot that KUT_wmUenLM-00016-00003910-00004071 when the rain struck the engine it KUT_wmUenLM-00017-00004072-00004262 evaporated into small clouds of steam KUT_wmUenLM-00018-00004263-00004626 this 650 horsepower locomotive engine KUT_wmUenLM-00019-00004627-00004833 filled the car with a deafening din as KUT_wmUenLM-00020-00004834-00005049 it's eight cylinders spun the engines KUT_wmUenLM-00021-00005050-00005301 crankshaft the engine belt sulfurous KUT_wmUenLM-00022-00005302-00005487 fumes and filled the car with a diesel KUT_wmUenLM-00023-00005488-00005747 like odor from burning oil burning heavy KUT_wmUenLM-00024-00005748-00005972 oil as fuel reduced the gasoline needed KUT_wmUenLM-00025-00005973-00006177 to 12 gallons which was used to power KUT_wmUenLM-00026-00006178-00006473 the 40 horsepower starting engines this KUT_wmUenLM-00027-00006475-00006674 gasoline was stored in small tanks that KUT_wmUenLM-00028-00006675-00006884 sat on a trapdoor so that if fire broke KUT_wmUenLM-00029-00006885-00007083 out an engineer could pull a lever and KUT_wmUenLM-00030-00007084-00007320 dump the tank in it's flammable contents KUT_wmUenLM-00031-00007320-00007523 the lever always in reach because the KUT_wmUenLM-00032-00007524-00007721 engineers operated from a work space at KUT_wmUenLM-00033-00007722-00007977 the front of the car at the moment Bing 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business of the KUT_wmUenLM-00048-00011040-00011319 officers the ship's instability didn't KUT_wmUenLM-00049-00011320-00011480 stop mr. leach from leaving the car KUT_wmUenLM-00050-00011481-00011669 throughout the flight leach planned to KUT_wmUenLM-00051-00011670-00011898 shuttle among the five cars and use his KUT_wmUenLM-00052-00011899-00012059 engineering experience to keep the KUT_wmUenLM-00053-00012060-00012258 engines running he tucked his round KUT_wmUenLM-00054-00012259-00012449 glasses into the pocket of his sit cot KUT_wmUenLM-00055-00012450-00012695 suit leaned out the cars open door and KUT_wmUenLM-00056-00012696-00012933 grab the ladder fifteen feet from him KUT_wmUenLM-00057-00012934-00013139 the propeller spun its suction tucking KUT_wmUenLM-00058-00013140-00013364 leech from the car once on the ladder KUT_wmUenLM-00059-00013365-00013509 the propwash was so power KUT_wmUenLM-00060-00013510-00013677 hold it could lift him parallel to the KUT_wmUenLM-00061-00013678-00013893 ground turning him into a human flag KUT_wmUenLM-00062-00013894-00014082 tethered to the ladder only by his firm KUT_wmUenLM-00063-00014083-00014319 grip leech inched his way up the ladder KUT_wmUenLM-00064-00014319-00014499 as the rain pelted him and hell he KUT_wmUenLM-00065-00014500-00014688 passed through a hole into the safety of KUT_wmUenLM-00066-00014688-00014949 our 101 Hall once in the hall he KUT_wmUenLM-00067-00014950-00015090 traveled forward along the ship's KUT_wmUenLM-00068-00015091-00015338 walkway the plywood floors bending under KUT_wmUenLM-00069-00015340-00015546 him he headed for the two engine cars KUT_wmUenLM-00070-00015547-00015753 slung near the ship's center when he KUT_wmUenLM-00071-00015754-00015897 reached the new Bay at midship KUT_wmUenLM-00072-00015897-00016101 he pulls for a respite from the racket KUT_wmUenLM-00073-00016102-00016329 of the ship's engines standing still he KUT_wmUenLM-00074-00016330-00016545 was aware of the ship's motion leech KUT_wmUenLM-00075-00016546-00016692 thought the airship pitched enrolled KUT_wmUenLM-00076-00016693-00016902 more than usual he had never felt it KUT_wmUenLM-00077-00016903-00017085 rolled as much in flight only at the KUT_wmUenLM-00078-00017086-00017328 tower he compared it to movements he'd KUT_wmUenLM-00079-00017329-00017490 experienced when riding on the Royal KUT_wmUenLM-00080-00017491-00017694 Navy submarine chaser blimps where he KUT_wmUenLM-00081-00017695-00017922 had been an engineer he hadn't felt as KUT_wmUenLM-00082-00017923-00018081 much motion even when two of the ships KUT_wmUenLM-00083-00018082-00018342 crashed leeched watched the surge of the KUT_wmUenLM-00084-00018343-00018609 giant gas bags above him wind from the KUT_wmUenLM-00085-00018610-00018777 ventilators in the cover rushed over the KUT_wmUenLM-00086-00018778-00018999 bag and rattled it back and forth but KUT_wmUenLM-00087-00019000-00019212 his quiet contemplation lasted only a KUT_wmUenLM-00088-00019213-00019401 moment because the walkway was the main KUT_wmUenLM-00089-00019402-00019659 thoroughfare from bow to stern soon KUT_wmUenLM-00090-00019660-00019884 Michael rope r101 engineering genius KUT_wmUenLM-00091-00019885-00020163 arrived rope like leech continuously KUT_wmUenLM-00092-00020164-00020364 roamed the ship while leech shuttled KUT_wmUenLM-00093-00020365-00020535 between the engine cars below the KUT_wmUenLM-00094-00020536-00020757 airship rope climbed to the top of each KUT_wmUenLM-00095-00020758-00020964 gas bag he worried that their wire KUT_wmUenLM-00096-00020965-00021165 netting led out to enlarge the bags and KUT_wmUenLM-00097-00021166-00021312 increase their lift it might allow the KUT_wmUenLM-00098-00021313-00021513 surging bags to smack into the sharp KUT_wmUenLM-00099-00021514-00021768 bolts of the metal frame leech stopped KUT_wmUenLM-00100-00021769-00021927 rope and pointed to the surging bags KUT_wmUenLM-00101-00021928-00022155 above them rope assured him that the KUT_wmUenLM-00102-00022156-00022332 bags wire netting kept it from touching KUT_wmUenLM-00103-00022333-00022575 the framework as leach continued to the KUT_wmUenLM-00104-00022576-00022818 midship engine cars rope climbed one of KUT_wmUenLM-00105-00022819-00022986 the ladders built into the framework and KUT_wmUenLM-00106-00022987-00023268 disappeared between two gas bags nearby KUT_wmUenLM-00107-00023269-00023502 other dizzily a radio operator stood at KUT_wmUenLM-00108-00023503-00023694 the center of our 101 and examined the KUT_wmUenLM-00109-00023695-00023865 mass of colored wires in the ship's main KUT_wmUenLM-00110-00023866-00024108 junction box he doubled as a ship's KUT_wmUenLM-00111-00024109-00024321 electrician on natural use of the skills KUT_wmUenLM-00112-00024322-00024492 of a radio operator because the KUT_wmUenLM-00113-00024493-00024678 cantankerous radio equipment required KUT_wmUenLM-00114-00024679-00024921 constant repair and maintenance while an KUT_wmUenLM-00115-00024922-00025110 operator must be agile with a telegraph KUT_wmUenLM-00116-00025111-00025344 key literacy and Morse code was merely KUT_wmUenLM-00117-00025345-00025587 entry-level knowledge this lee was KUT_wmUenLM-00118-00025588-00025776 trained using the Admiralty handbook of KUT_wmUenLM-00119-00025777-00026039 wireless telegraphy which devoted 899 KUT_wmUenLM-00120-00026041-00026250 pages to fundamental principles on KUT_wmUenLM-00121-00026251-00026465 electricity and magnetism generators KUT_wmUenLM-00122-00026466-00026688 motors vacuum tube circuits and included KUT_wmUenLM-00123-00026689-00026883 a plea for disc Lee's work KUT_wmUenLM-00124-00026883-00027108 and appendix on resuscitation from KUT_wmUenLM-00125-00027108-00027377 apparent death by electrical shock this KUT_wmUenLM-00126-00027379-00027558 Li grab the leads of the ammeter built KUT_wmUenLM-00127-00027558-00027746 into the junction box and verified the KUT_wmUenLM-00128-00027747-00027987 load in all the circuits he started with KUT_wmUenLM-00129-00027988-00028200 a three huge aluminum core cables KUT_wmUenLM-00130-00028201-00028427 aluminum to reduce weight that connected KUT_wmUenLM-00131-00028429-00028617 electrical generators in three of the KUT_wmUenLM-00132-00028618-00028839 engine cars to the junction box they KUT_wmUenLM-00133-00028839-00029143 pumped 220 volt 3-phase power to the box KUT_wmUenLM-00134-00029144-00029400 next he tested the separate circuits KUT_wmUenLM-00135-00029401-00029610 that over the 4 miles of wiring and r101 KUT_wmUenLM-00136-00029611-00029910 fed electricity to the kitchen passenger KUT_wmUenLM-00137-00029911-00030111 quarters and the radio room the latter's KUT_wmUenLM-00138-00030112-00030333 wires a contrasting color because of the KUT_wmUenLM-00139-00030333-00030492 importance of radio to the ship's KUT_wmUenLM-00140-00030493-00030756 operation once he'd tested all circuits KUT_wmUenLM-00141-00030757-00030936 dizzily walk the length of the ship KUT_wmUenLM-00142-00030937-00031196 inspector every one of our 101 s 130 KUT_wmUenLM-00143-00031197-00031412 lamps each and a fitting specially KUT_wmUenLM-00144-00031413-00031605 designed to prevent the escape of sparks KUT_wmUenLM-00145-00031606-00031776 from a short-circuit sparkler could KUT_wmUenLM-00146-00031777-00031946 ignite the 5 million cubic feet of KUT_wmUenLM-00147-00031947-00032217 hydrogen on board this lead discovered KUT_wmUenLM-00148-00032218-00032465 only one bulb burned out at frame number KUT_wmUenLM-00149-00032466-00032676 four just above the two aft engine cars KUT_wmUenLM-00150-00032677-00032904 he changed it and then returned to the KUT_wmUenLM-00151-00032905-00033071 radio cabin when it could smell dinner KUT_wmUenLM-00152-00033072-00033255 being cooked next door in the galley as KUT_wmUenLM-00153-00033256-00033510 Dizz lee worked in the radio cabin and KUT_wmUenLM-00154-00033511-00033744 leach inspected the other engines bings KUT_wmUenLM-00155-00033745-00033948 left the rear-engine car to rest in the KUT_wmUenLM-00156-00033949-00034173 crew quarters while Bell tended the KUT_wmUenLM-00157-00034174-00034380 engine although the two men worked KUT_wmUenLM-00158-00034381-00034575 together during departure they would now KUT_wmUenLM-00159-00034576-00034704 a half hour into the flight KUT_wmUenLM-00160-00034705-00034902 alternating three hour shifts starting KUT_wmUenLM-00161-00034903-00035145 in 90 minutes with one man sleeping in KUT_wmUenLM-00162-00035146-00035325 their shared bunk and the other in the KUT_wmUenLM-00163-00035326-00035505 car monitoring the engine and waiting KUT_wmUenLM-00164-00035506-00035670 telegraphed orders from the control car KUT_wmUenLM-00165-00035671-00035925 to change speed or a fire broke out KUT_wmUenLM-00166-00035926-00036144 pulling a handle to jettison the small KUT_wmUenLM-00167-00036145-00036336 gasoline tank of the starting engine KUT_wmUenLM-00168-00036337-00036570 before resting banks ate a snack of KUT_wmUenLM-00169-00036571-00036804 bread and cheese pickles and hot coco KUT_wmUenLM-00170-00036805-00037005 but before he could finish word arrived KUT_wmUenLM-00171-00037006-00037236 that the rear engine had stopped things KUT_wmUenLM-00172-00037237-00037401 hurried along the ship's walkway to the KUT_wmUenLM-00173-00037402-00037593 opening above the rear engine he KUT_wmUenLM-00174-00037594-00037749 scurried down the ladder the wind KUT_wmUenLM-00175-00037750-00037950 whipping across him at 50 miles per hour KUT_wmUenLM-00176-00037951-00038237 and dropped into the car Bell explained KUT_wmUenLM-00177-00038238-00038487 that the oil pressure had fallen unlike KUT_wmUenLM-00178-00038488-00038673 a gasoline-powered engine where the oil KUT_wmUenLM-00179-00038674-00038868 pump spreads liquid oil to lubricate the KUT_wmUenLM-00180-00038869-00039204 engine here the oil was the fuel the KUT_wmUenLM-00181-00039205-00039333 pump vaporized the oil KUT_wmUenLM-00182-00039334-00039561 converted it to a mist then sprayed an KUT_wmUenLM-00183-00039562-00039801 exact quantity at a precise time into KUT_wmUenLM-00184-00039802-00040050 the engine so important was this action KUT_wmUenLM-00185-00040051-00040242 that the engines inventor called the oil KUT_wmUenLM-00186-00040243-00040278 palm KUT_wmUenLM-00187-00040279-00040493 the engines most characteristic feature KUT_wmUenLM-00188-00040494-00040758 the sequence of events was so complex KUT_wmUenLM-00189-00040759-00041019 the pump contains 17 moving parts that KUT_wmUenLM-00190-00041020-00041253 the pumps often failed only a few KUT_wmUenLM-00191-00041254-00041445 minutes after banks arrived the oil pump KUT_wmUenLM-00192-00041446-00041730 failed Bell shut down the engine he sent KUT_wmUenLM-00193-00041731-00041895 banks up the ladder to get leached the KUT_wmUenLM-00194-00041896-00042089 engine expert but bings exit was blocked KUT_wmUenLM-00195-00042090-00042369 first engineer belg emp'd was descending KUT_wmUenLM-00196-00042370-00042582 the ladder again two longtime airship KUT_wmUenLM-00197-00042583-00042744 veteran or proud member of scott's KUT_wmUenLM-00198-00042745-00042978 heroic atlantic crossing supervised the KUT_wmUenLM-00199-00042979-00043152 engine car operators and helped to leach KUT_wmUenLM-00200-00043153-00043389 with keeping the engines in repair the KUT_wmUenLM-00201-00043390-00043605 experience get knew that on long flights KUT_wmUenLM-00202-00043606-00043788 he must let his engineers rest whenever KUT_wmUenLM-00203-00043789-00044058 possible besides the car was too small KUT_wmUenLM-00204-00044059-00044235 for a crowd and in a few minutes the KUT_wmUenLM-00205-00044236-00044463 shuttling mr. leach would arrive so he KUT_wmUenLM-00206-00044464-00044619 ordered banks back to the crew quarters KUT_wmUenLM-00207-00044620-00044877 to sleep routine setting across the KUT_wmUenLM-00208-00044878-00045027 airship despite the failure of one KUT_wmUenLM-00209-00045028-00045300 engine it would surely be up and working KUT_wmUenLM-00210-00045301-00045528 again soon in the dining room above KUT_wmUenLM-00211-00045529-00045717 things savage and his assistants served KUT_wmUenLM-00212-00045718-00045948 the passengers a cold meal no time now KUT_wmUenLM-00213-00045949-00046152 for savage to delight the crew with his KUT_wmUenLM-00214-00046153-00046314 cartoons and caricatures KUT_wmUenLM-00215-00046315-00046536 well the passengers ate four riggers KUT_wmUenLM-00216-00046537-00046692 patrolled the ship looking for any KUT_wmUenLM-00217-00046693-00046872 problems for the cloth cover or the gas KUT_wmUenLM-00218-00046873-00047103 bags they climbed into the framework to KUT_wmUenLM-00219-00047104-00047277 inspect the gas release valves and to KUT_wmUenLM-00220-00047278-00047435 examine the ship's outer cloth cover KUT_wmUenLM-00221-00047436-00047655 often they came across ropes sitting KUT_wmUenLM-00222-00047656-00047862 atop a gas bag watching it rattle in its KUT_wmUenLM-00223-00047863-00048045 wire netting approaching within inches KUT_wmUenLM-00224-00048046-00048309 of the metal framework the riggers also KUT_wmUenLM-00225-00048310-00048480 often passed leach on the walkway as he KUT_wmUenLM-00226-00048481-00048639 traveled between visits to the engine KUT_wmUenLM-00227-00048640-00048948 cars at 8:00 p.m. almost 90 minutes into KUT_wmUenLM-00228-00048949-00049179 the flight a new watch of first engineer KUT_wmUenLM-00229-00049180-00049353 against crew shimmy down their ladders KUT_wmUenLM-00230-00049354-00049548 to their shiny egg-shaped engine cars KUT_wmUenLM-00231-00049549-00049755 the propwash billowing there sit cat KUT_wmUenLM-00232-00049756-00049968 suits knives dangling from their belts KUT_wmUenLM-00233-00049969-00050139 beating in the wind against their KUT_wmUenLM-00234-00050140-00050367 authorities Joe banks part of the next KUT_wmUenLM-00235-00050368-00050520 wash arrived in the rear-engine car KUT_wmUenLM-00236-00050521-00050757 pleased to see engine number 5 churning KUT_wmUenLM-00237-00050758-00051003 away leaching again diagnosed the KUT_wmUenLM-00238-00051004-00051198 problem is a faulty pressure gauge much KUT_wmUenLM-00239-00051199-00051371 less serious than a broken pump KUT_wmUenLM-00240-00051372-00051588 soon after banks arrived the tired KUT_wmUenLM-00241-00051589-00051779 ballast ended the ladder happy to leave KUT_wmUenLM-00242-00051780-00051992 the heat smell and noise of the engine KUT_wmUenLM-00243-00051994-00052239 he headed to the crew quarters for his KUT_wmUenLM-00244-00052240-00052442 supper then to rest in their shared bunk KUT_wmUenLM-00245-00052444-00052707 number 13 still warm from Joe Banks body KUT_wmUenLM-00246-00052708-00052926 once there Bell picked out the KUT_wmUenLM-00247-00052927-00053105 plasticine he'd stuffed into his years KUT_wmUenLM-00248-00053107-00053271 as protection from the clamor of the KUT_wmUenLM-00249-00053272-00053502 engine the oil pressure and engine KUT_wmUenLM-00250-00053503-00053631 number 5 dropped KUT_wmUenLM-00251-00053632-00053896 101 year - standard landmark the white KUT_wmUenLM-00252-00053897-00054099 clock of the glass-covered metropolitan KUT_wmUenLM-00253-00054100-00054279 cattle market innocent in north of KUT_wmUenLM-00254-00054280-00054346 London KUT_wmUenLM-00255-00054347-00054588 Binx grab the speed lever and pulled it KUT_wmUenLM-00256-00054589-00054762 toward himself to reduce the engine to KUT_wmUenLM-00257-00054763-00054837 half speed KUT_wmUenLM-00258-00054838-00055107 he and again watched the oil gates they KUT_wmUenLM-00259-00055108-00055291 hope the pressure would hold steady it KUT_wmUenLM-00260-00055291-00055512 continued to fall so against signal with KUT_wmUenLM-00261-00055513-00055653 his hands for Binks to shut down the KUT_wmUenLM-00262-00055654-00055923 engine the only sound in the car now was KUT_wmUenLM-00263-00055924-00056085 the distant groan of the other four KUT_wmUenLM-00264-00056086-00056229 engines and the whistle of the wind KUT_wmUenLM-00265-00056230-00056499 through the open doors above the leach KUT_wmUenLM-00266-00056500-00056742 on one of its many cycles between engine KUT_wmUenLM-00267-00056743-00056955 cars notice the engine stopped he KUT_wmUenLM-00268-00056956-00057156 scrambled down the ladder he acted the KUT_wmUenLM-00269-00057157-00057340 moment he landed on the cars floor KUT_wmUenLM-00270-00057341-00057618 conditioned by his time critical work on KUT_wmUenLM-00271-00057619-00057798 Malcolm Campbell's finicky race cars KUT_wmUenLM-00272-00057799-00058021 leach ordered bangs to mock the KUT_wmUenLM-00273-00058022-00058179 propeller to prevent the engine shaft KUT_wmUenLM-00274-00058180-00058447 from turning then to remove the port oil KUT_wmUenLM-00275-00058448-00058673 covers to expose the engines interior KUT_wmUenLM-00276-00058674-00058938 Binks lay on the car's floor and slid KUT_wmUenLM-00277-00058939-00059124 forward next to the engine was based KUT_wmUenLM-00278-00059125-00059284 barely larger than the width of his KUT_wmUenLM-00279-00059285-00059505 shoulders he could squeeze along the KUT_wmUenLM-00280-00059506-00059703 full length of the engine on either side KUT_wmUenLM-00281-00059704-00059913 in a space a foot and a half wide at the KUT_wmUenLM-00282-00059914-00060165 front of the engine narrowing to a tight KUT_wmUenLM-00283-00060166-00060403 10 inches at the back where the engine KUT_wmUenLM-00284-00060404-00060636 butted against the rear wall through the KUT_wmUenLM-00285-00060637-00060822 rear wall the crankshaft connected to KUT_wmUenLM-00286-00060823-00061050 the propeller once bangs removed the KUT_wmUenLM-00287-00061051-00061236 last of the port side inspection covers KUT_wmUenLM-00288-00061237-00061407 he called backward to make room for KUT_wmUenLM-00289-00061408-00061522 leeching Ghent KUT_wmUenLM-00290-00061523-00061791 the engines insides now exposed the two KUT_wmUenLM-00291-00061792-00061960 smaller men scooted along the floor KUT_wmUenLM-00292-00061961-00062203 careful to avoid the eight hot exhaust KUT_wmUenLM-00293-00062204-00062430 pipes and examined the engines bearings KUT_wmUenLM-00294-00062431-00062746 connecting rods and oil system leeches KUT_wmUenLM-00295-00062747-00063051 expert I detected no defects so Binks KUT_wmUenLM-00296-00063052-00063230 again slid across the cars floor KUT_wmUenLM-00297-00063231-00063474 positioning himself to replace all eight KUT_wmUenLM-00298-00063475-00063669 inspection comers well the two senior KUT_wmUenLM-00299-00063670-00063861 men examined the relief valve on the KUT_wmUenLM-00300-00063862-00064090 opposite side of the engine as they KUT_wmUenLM-00301-00064091-00064315 studied the engine r11 passed over the KUT_wmUenLM-00302-00064316-00064534 cattle market and then London the KUT_wmUenLM-00303-00064535-00064747 airship flew headlong into the WIMP but KUT_wmUenLM-00304-00064748-00064984 with Binks engine number 5 still out the KUT_wmUenLM-00305-00064985-00065169 four remaining engines thrust our 101 KUT_wmUenLM-00306-00065170-00065385 forward at a ground speed of a mere 20 KUT_wmUenLM-00307-00065386-00065472 miles per hour KUT_wmUenLM-00308-00065473-00065736 once past London the ship headed for the KUT_wmUenLM-00309-00065737-00065994 English Channel in France but first it KUT_wmUenLM-00310-00065995-00066247 had to rise to 1,200 feet to fly over KUT_wmUenLM-00311-00066248-00066385 the truck Hills of Surrey KUT_wmUenLM-00312-00066386-00066678 the passengers unaware of engine trouble KUT_wmUenLM-00313-00066679-00066898 listened in the lounge to a broadcast of KUT_wmUenLM-00314-00066899-00066936 al KUT_wmUenLM-00315-00066937-00067137 pomp and circumstance from Queen's Hall KUT_wmUenLM-00316-00067138-00067380 in London the horn section of the BBC KUT_wmUenLM-00317-00067381-00067584 Symphony Orchestra almost masking the KUT_wmUenLM-00318-00067585-00067860 Holly wind outside a few intrepid KUT_wmUenLM-00319-00067861-00068065 passengers stood on the promenade decks KUT_wmUenLM-00320-00068066-00068235 their backs turned to the brightly lit KUT_wmUenLM-00321-00068236-00068472 lounge so their eyes could adjust to the KUT_wmUenLM-00322-00068473-00068721 darkness the city lights of kracken Hill KUT_wmUenLM-00323-00068722-00068922 at fern and Blackstone passed under them KUT_wmUenLM-00324-00068923-00069165 then darkness below until a final burst KUT_wmUenLM-00325-00069166-00069405 of luminosity from Fairlight Cove east KUT_wmUenLM-00326-00069406-00069642 of Hastings three hours after leaving KUT_wmUenLM-00327-00069643-00069897 the mooring tower r101 swept past the KUT_wmUenLM-00328-00069898-00070119 coast sandstone cliffs into the darkness KUT_wmUenLM-00329-00070120-00070368 of the channel with nothing more to see KUT_wmUenLM-00330-00070369-00070584 they returned to the lounge the somber KUT_wmUenLM-00331-00070585-00070839 strains of Elgar long gone replaced by KUT_wmUenLM-00332-00070840-00071013 the upbeat Ambrose and his orchestra KUT_wmUenLM-00333-00071014-00071235 playing the popular my baby just cares KUT_wmUenLM-00334-00071236-00071532 for me far below the passengers unable KUT_wmUenLM-00335-00071533-00071769 to hear their music Binx organized metal KUT_wmUenLM-00336-00071770-00071982 discs and springs to repack the engines KUT_wmUenLM-00337-00071983-00072210 relief foul the cause leach determined KUT_wmUenLM-00338-00072211-00072474 of a drop in oil pressure as banks KUT_wmUenLM-00339-00072475-00072636 worked leach peered out the open door KUT_wmUenLM-00340-00072637-00072888 the weather he thought was deteriorating KUT_wmUenLM-00341-00072889-00073146 r101 dough toward the channel coming so KUT_wmUenLM-00342-00073147-00073341 close that leach saw the white spume of KUT_wmUenLM-00343-00073342-00073569 its waves as the airship neared the KUT_wmUenLM-00344-00073570-00073806 channel a calcium phosphide flare drops KUT_wmUenLM-00345-00073807-00074019 from the control car with it the crew KUT_wmUenLM-00346-00074020-00074202 measured our 101's drift caused by KUT_wmUenLM-00347-00074203-00074475 crosswinds the water activated flare hit KUT_wmUenLM-00348-00074476-00074646 the channel surface and burst into a KUT_wmUenLM-00349-00074647-00074913 brilliant white flame the wind was so KUT_wmUenLM-00350-00074914-00075066 strong in his flight that the control KUT_wmUenLM-00351-00075067-00075259 Kandra to flare every ten minutes or so KUT_wmUenLM-00352-00075260-00075528 the flaming white spot on the water sped KUT_wmUenLM-00353-00075529-00075735 off to the right and behind the airship KUT_wmUenLM-00354-00075736-00075957 the wind blew from the southwest at KUT_wmUenLM-00355-00075958-00076215 forty four miles per hour modulated KUT_wmUenLM-00356-00076216-00076497 often by fierce gusts to compensate for KUT_wmUenLM-00357-00076498-00076716 this crosswind our 101 snows pointed KUT_wmUenLM-00358-00076717-00076968 into the wind the ship now flew slightly KUT_wmUenLM-00359-00076969-00077151 sideways in the air but it's centered KUT_wmUenLM-00360-00077152-00077406 travel nearly due south a few minutes KUT_wmUenLM-00361-00077407-00077526 before 11 p.m. KUT_wmUenLM-00362-00077527-00077694 nearly four and a half hours into the KUT_wmUenLM-00363-00077695-00077943 forty hour flight to Egypt banks yanked KUT_wmUenLM-00364-00077944-00078084 on the starting cord of a small KUT_wmUenLM-00365-00078085-00078297 gasoline-powered starting motor it KUT_wmUenLM-00366-00078298-00078482 revved to life with a high-pitched whine KUT_wmUenLM-00367-00078483-00078750 banks opened the larger engines throttle KUT_wmUenLM-00368-00078751-00079014 it fired without a sputter he shut off KUT_wmUenLM-00369-00079015-00079176 the starting engine and pushed the speed KUT_wmUenLM-00370-00079177-00079383 lever away from him until the engine ran KUT_wmUenLM-00371-00079384-00079650 at top speed all returned to normal in KUT_wmUenLM-00372-00079651-00079866 the engine car deafening noise and a KUT_wmUenLM-00373-00079867-00080187 diesel like stench of heavy oil our 101 KUT_wmUenLM-00374-00080188-00080268 now in mid KUT_wmUenLM-00375-00080269-00080466 was a hundred and fifty five miles from KUT_wmUenLM-00376-00080467-00080657 the mooring Tower and a hundred and KUT_wmUenLM-00377-00080658-00080918 thirty miles from Paris it flew in an KUT_wmUenLM-00378-00080919-00081165 air speed of 63 miles per hour now that KUT_wmUenLM-00379-00081166-00081356 thing's engine number five was operating KUT_wmUenLM-00380-00081357-00081597 the wind beat on the cloth covered with KUT_wmUenLM-00381-00081598-00081792 a greater more sustained force than in KUT_wmUenLM-00382-00081793-00082043 any of our 100 ones test flights the KUT_wmUenLM-00383-00082044-00082274 middle watch now take over the KUT_wmUenLM-00384-00082275-00082526 bone-tired Joe banks is body aching from KUT_wmUenLM-00385-00082527-00082736 hours curled up on the floor nestled KUT_wmUenLM-00386-00082737-00082980 against a hot smelly engine was relieved KUT_wmUenLM-00387-00082981-00083166 as the Arthur Bell sliding down the KUT_wmUenLM-00388-00083167-00083436 ladder once Bell replaced him banks KUT_wmUenLM-00389-00083437-00083600 ascended the ladder and headed along the KUT_wmUenLM-00390-00083601-00083837 walkway to bunk number 13 still warm KUT_wmUenLM-00391-00083838-00084050 from Bell and still leaking of diesel KUT_wmUenLM-00392-00084051-00084332 Alf cook fresh from the midship engine KUT_wmUenLM-00393-00084333-00084626 car joined Binx cook a small man with a KUT_wmUenLM-00394-00084627-00084810 startling resemblance to Charlie Chaplin KUT_wmUenLM-00395-00084811-00085017 told him that he had never seen the wind KUT_wmUenLM-00396-00085018-00085248 so strong while flying on an airship the KUT_wmUenLM-00397-00085249-00085467 ship II incoming several times so close KUT_wmUenLM-00398-00085468-00085625 to the channel that he could see the KUT_wmUenLM-00399-00085626-00085907 waves our 101 chopped through the air KUT_wmUenLM-00400-00085908-00086093 over France after midnight while most KUT_wmUenLM-00401-00086094-00086346 passengers an off-duty crew slept the KUT_wmUenLM-00402-00086347-00086513 exhausted after Stern slept worn out KUT_wmUenLM-00403-00086514-00086673 from operating the elevators in the KUT_wmUenLM-00404-00086674-00086951 gusty wind over England savage had laid KUT_wmUenLM-00405-00086952-00087176 the breakfast dishes set for 7:30 a.m. KUT_wmUenLM-00406-00087177-00087447 sharp and then retired apart from those KUT_wmUenLM-00407-00087448-00087648 assigned to the middle watch only two KUT_wmUenLM-00408-00087649-00087893 others were awake the stalwart rope who KUT_wmUenLM-00409-00087894-00088074 climbed through the framework to monitor KUT_wmUenLM-00410-00088075-00088262 the surging gasbags and the KUT_wmUenLM-00411-00088263-00088467 indefatigable roving leech who chatted KUT_wmUenLM-00412-00088468-00088655 with Bell in the rear-engine car KUT_wmUenLM-00413-00088656-00088892 satisfied that all was well with engine KUT_wmUenLM-00414-00088893-00089081 number five leach climbed up the ladder KUT_wmUenLM-00415-00089082-00089306 toward the halt the weather he thought KUT_wmUenLM-00416-00089307-00089535 was very rough caused by the wind and KUT_wmUenLM-00417-00089536-00089784 rain being terrific he traveled along KUT_wmUenLM-00418-00089785-00089957 the walkway to the Haven of a smoking KUT_wmUenLM-00419-00089958-00090141 room for a well-earned cigarette before KUT_wmUenLM-00420-00090142-00090362 turning in his first since leaving the KUT_wmUenLM-00421-00090363-00090609 works he settled on a bench fastened to KUT_wmUenLM-00422-00090610-00090786 the starboard wall the benches soft KUT_wmUenLM-00423-00090787-00090962 cushioned a relief after lying on the KUT_wmUenLM-00424-00090963-00091197 hard floor of the engine car the KUT_wmUenLM-00425-00091198-00091371 windowless rooms metal walls were a KUT_wmUenLM-00426-00091372-00091572 pristine white in contrast to the gritty KUT_wmUenLM-00427-00091573-00091659 engine cars KUT_wmUenLM-00428-00091660-00091913 he was quiet the only sound a soft KUT_wmUenLM-00429-00091914-00092057 rustle of hair drawn up by the KUT_wmUenLM-00430-00092058-00092276 ventilator in the ceiling the gentle KUT_wmUenLM-00431-00092277-00092424 rocking of the ventilator was the only KUT_wmUenLM-00432-00092425-00092592 trace of the ship's motion through the KUT_wmUenLM-00433-00092593-00092867 gale force wind outside leech sat in KUT_wmUenLM-00434-00092868-00093092 solitude satisfied that all five engines KUT_wmUenLM-00435-00093093-00093326 were running well it was a few minutes KUT_wmUenLM-00436-00093327-00093581 before 2:00 in the morning as leach doze KUT_wmUenLM-00437-00093582-00093639 the ship KUT_wmUenLM-00438-00093640-00093828 was a few miles north of the small town KUT_wmUenLM-00439-00093829-00094098 of Buffay just over 40 mile 65 KUT_wmUenLM-00440-00094099-00094380 kilometers north of Paris it fluid trim KUT_wmUenLM-00441-00094381-00094593 and a little nose up with all five KUT_wmUenLM-00442-00094594-00094779 engines operating of full blast KUT_wmUenLM-00443-00094780-00094971 the airship maintained an air speed of KUT_wmUenLM-00444-00094972-00095220 63 miles per hour although the high wind KUT_wmUenLM-00445-00095221-00095352 slowed it to a crawl KUT_wmUenLM-00446-00095353-00095628 of 20 miles per hour ground speed the KUT_wmUenLM-00447-00095629-00095835 ship flew at an altitude of 1,200 feet KUT_wmUenLM-00448-00095836-00096093 but turbulence forced r101 to oscillate KUT_wmUenLM-00449-00096094-00096360 around this height by 200 or 300 feet at KUT_wmUenLM-00450-00096361-00096603 2:00 a.m. the second morning wash took KUT_wmUenLM-00451-00096604-00096846 over yet Joe Banks was asleep in bunk KUT_wmUenLM-00452-00096847-00097095 number 13 out to the world as he KUT_wmUenLM-00453-00097096-00097353 described his deep sleeps the smell of a KUT_wmUenLM-00454-00097354-00097584 steaming mug of cocoa roused him on gift KUT_wmUenLM-00455-00097585-00097782 from George short the engineer of the KUT_wmUenLM-00456-00097783-00098043 watch short shared good news with Banks KUT_wmUenLM-00457-00098044-00098322 engine number five ran well being KUT_wmUenLM-00458-00098323-00098502 slipped on his suit got suit and ran a KUT_wmUenLM-00459-00098503-00098676 hundred and fifty feet along the walkway KUT_wmUenLM-00460-00098677-00098886 to the opening in the hole above engine KUT_wmUenLM-00461-00098887-00099111 number five he noticed in a distance KUT_wmUenLM-00462-00099112-00099303 Michel rope wasting himself into the KUT_wmUenLM-00463-00099304-00099483 framework and disappearing into the dark KUT_wmUenLM-00464-00099484-00099717 searching bags being slid down the KUT_wmUenLM-00465-00099718-00099927 engine car ladder as quickly as possible KUT_wmUenLM-00466-00099928-00100173 Bell smiled and pointed to the engine KUT_wmUenLM-00467-00100174-00100434 car clock it was three minutes past two KUT_wmUenLM-00468-00100435-00100662 when gentle reminder that Binks was late KUT_wmUenLM-00469-00100663-00100926 Binks leaned in to learn of the engines KUT_wmUenLM-00470-00100927-00101187 performance during Belle shift above the KUT_wmUenLM-00471-00101188-00101376 din of the engine Belle detailed the KUT_wmUenLM-00472-00101377-00101553 engines oil pressures and temperatures KUT_wmUenLM-00473-00101554-00101823 over the last three hours Binks felt the KUT_wmUenLM-00474-00101824-00101997 ship shift under him the motion KUT_wmUenLM-00475-00101998-00102165 different from the dips when mooring at KUT_wmUenLM-00476-00102166-00102381 the tower or even the dives after the KUT_wmUenLM-00477-00102382-00102666 RAF display in July Binks thoughted KUT_wmUenLM-00478-00102667-00102855 traveled further even the more KUT_wmUenLM-00479-00102856-00103065 experienced Belle notice the ship canted KUT_wmUenLM-00480-00103066-00103347 in a terrific angle in the smoking-room KUT_wmUenLM-00481-00103348-00103548 the ship's plunge force leads to slide KUT_wmUenLM-00482-00103549-00103722 on his cushion along the smoking-room KUT_wmUenLM-00483-00103723-00103971 bench a soda water siphon and some KUT_wmUenLM-00484-00103972-00104144 glasses fell off a nearby table but KUT_wmUenLM-00485-00104145-00104400 stayed intact when the ship returned to KUT_wmUenLM-00486-00104401-00104577 horizontal leach picked them up and KUT_wmUenLM-00487-00104578-00104706 replaced them on the table KUT_wmUenLM-00488-00104707-00104955 the ship's dive woke dis later Scot near KUT_wmUenLM-00489-00104956-00105177 the radio room groggy he felt the ship KUT_wmUenLM-00490-00105178-00105405 ride itself at the same time in the KUT_wmUenLM-00491-00105406-00105509 rear-engine car KUT_wmUenLM-00492-00105510-00105669 the ancient telegraph rang and its KUT_wmUenLM-00493-00105670-00105884 lights flickered the pointer rotated to KUT_wmUenLM-00494-00105885-00106143 slow the control car ordered the engine KUT_wmUenLM-00495-00106144-00106491 slowed from 825 to 450 revolutions per KUT_wmUenLM-00496-00106492-00106755 minute Bell pulled the speed control KUT_wmUenLM-00497-00106756-00106871 lever toward himself KUT_wmUenLM-00498-00106872-00107147 I want a window again a dive steeper and KUT_wmUenLM-00499-00107148-00107450 the first as the ship doe diddly was KUT_wmUenLM-00500-00107451-00107597 completely awakened by the Gong's KUT_wmUenLM-00501-00107598-00107809 clanging for the engines to go slow a KUT_wmUenLM-00502-00107810-00108028 coxswain stormed by the radio cabin with KUT_wmUenLM-00503-00108029-00108272 a loud but calm cry of we're down lads KUT_wmUenLM-00504-00108273-00108502 and then hurried to the crew quarters to KUT_wmUenLM-00505-00108503-00108760 roust All Hands the Coxon ordered a KUT_wmUenLM-00506-00108761-00108964 rigger just exiting the crew quarters to KUT_wmUenLM-00507-00108965-00109159 run to the front of the ship and release KUT_wmUenLM-00508-00109160-00109463 a half ton of emergency ballast Bisley KUT_wmUenLM-00509-00109464-00109643 started to rise out of his bed in KUT_wmUenLM-00510-00109644-00109913 response to the Coxon's cry suddenly his KUT_wmUenLM-00511-00109914-00110132 bed tilted his head was lower than his KUT_wmUenLM-00512-00110133-00110359 feet he noted that the tilt was greater KUT_wmUenLM-00513-00110360-00110531 than when a thunderstorm enforced our KUT_wmUenLM-00514-00110532-00110819 101 to dive near tois Riviera Canada KUT_wmUenLM-00515-00110820-00111074 this lee knew that the slowing engine KUT_wmUenLM-00516-00111075-00111299 would generate less electricity and that KUT_wmUenLM-00517-00111300-00111464 some circuits must be shut off KUT_wmUenLM-00518-00111465-00111695 he reached above his bed I'm worried KUT_wmUenLM-00519-00111696-00111853 that the electrical current might ignite KUT_wmUenLM-00520-00111854-00112052 a fire so better to turn off all KUT_wmUenLM-00521-00112053-00112268 circuits he turned off one of the two KUT_wmUenLM-00522-00112269-00112418 circuits but before he could reach the KUT_wmUenLM-00523-00112419-00112721 second the ship dose deeply our 101 KUT_wmUenLM-00524-00112722-00112960 smashed into the ground nose first at KUT_wmUenLM-00525-00112961-00113171 midship leech knew that the ship had KUT_wmUenLM-00526-00113172-00113426 crashed but was disoriented he prepared KUT_wmUenLM-00527-00113427-00113663 for a violent blow but heard only aloud KUT_wmUenLM-00528-00113664-00113860 crunch is the metal framework at the KUT_wmUenLM-00529-00113861-00114125 nose collapsed too mild a noise it KUT_wmUenLM-00530-00114126-00114283 seemed to him for a catastrophic event KUT_wmUenLM-00531-00114284-00114569 but then an explosion blew open the door KUT_wmUenLM-00532-00114570-00114758 and threw him against the floor the KUT_wmUenLM-00533-00114758-00114920 brilliant white flash momentarily KUT_wmUenLM-00534-00114921-00115183 blinding him his training as a mechanic KUT_wmUenLM-00535-00115184-00115402 took over the explosion sound he thought KUT_wmUenLM-00536-00115403-00115631 was a wolf like lighting petrol on the KUT_wmUenLM-00537-00115632-00115874 floor and not the ignition of hydrogen KUT_wmUenLM-00538-00115875-00116110 his analytical mind recorded the color KUT_wmUenLM-00539-00116111-00116333 very white not at all I thought like KUT_wmUenLM-00540-00116333-00116606 hydrogen flame his analysis ended when KUT_wmUenLM-00541-00116607-00116740 the upper deck fell into the KUT_wmUenLM-00542-00116741-00116929 smoking-room at a girder trapped him in KUT_wmUenLM-00543-00116930-00117188 a space only 3 feet high the deck above KUT_wmUenLM-00544-00117189-00117356 rested on the back of the inn belt KUT_wmUenLM-00545-00117357-00117623 benches from the collapsed decks crew KUT_wmUenLM-00546-00117624-00117800 and passenger screamed and moaned his KUT_wmUenLM-00547-00117801-00118022 fire ravaged the ship the blown open KUT_wmUenLM-00548-00118023-00118214 smoking-room door exposed the control KUT_wmUenLM-00549-00118215-00118463 room now engulfed in flames the smoking KUT_wmUenLM-00550-00118464-00118702 room filled with thick fumes leach now KUT_wmUenLM-00551-00118703-00118964 deprived of air choked a white flash KUT_wmUenLM-00552-00118965-00119231 stunned is Lee still in his bed he heard KUT_wmUenLM-00553-00119232-00119416 the clatter of radio equipment books and KUT_wmUenLM-00554-00119417-00119618 lamps anything not firmly affixed to the KUT_wmUenLM-00555-00119619-00119852 ship within seconds a wall of fire KUT_wmUenLM-00556-00119853-00119976 surrounded him KUT_wmUenLM-00557-00119977-00120236 it word like a furnace awful awful KUT_wmUenLM-00558-00120238-00120498 repeated difficulty to himself he rammed KUT_wmUenLM-00559-00120499-00120678 his body into the fabric wall of his KUT_wmUenLM-00560-00120679-00120948 cabin rebounded again and again he KUT_wmUenLM-00561-00120949-00121128 bounced off the wall until he sank to KUT_wmUenLM-00562-00121129-00121305 the floor leaned against the wall KUT_wmUenLM-00563-00121306-00121572 exhausted and offered a prayer my fate KUT_wmUenLM-00564-00121573-00121833 is sealed he thought the impact tossed KUT_wmUenLM-00565-00121833-00122025 Binks is back to the direction of travel KUT_wmUenLM-00566-00122026-00122307 onto his rear as the engine car skidded KUT_wmUenLM-00567-00122308-00122505 across the ground its bottom caved in KUT_wmUenLM-00568-00122506-00122730 the electrical lamp in the car flickered KUT_wmUenLM-00569-00122731-00122988 then extinguished in the darkness the KUT_wmUenLM-00570-00122989-00123138 wreckage above them released a long KUT_wmUenLM-00571-00123139-00123358 drawn-out rumble like distant thunder KUT_wmUenLM-00572-00123359-00123621 seconds later the debris surrounding the KUT_wmUenLM-00573-00123622-00123849 two men burst into flames the metal KUT_wmUenLM-00574-00123850-00124041 walls of the engine car reflected and KUT_wmUenLM-00575-00124042-00124206 intensified the light from the flames KUT_wmUenLM-00576-00124207-00124409 and bathed the two men with a fierce KUT_wmUenLM-00577-00124410-00124692 glow we are caught thought bell as he KUT_wmUenLM-00578-00124693-00124892 looked at the fire raging around the car KUT_wmUenLM-00579-00124893-00125142 Binks glanced at the fuel tank for the KUT_wmUenLM-00580-00125143-00125403 starter motor it contained 12 gallons of KUT_wmUenLM-00581-00125404-00125649 explosive gasoline no time to jettison KUT_wmUenLM-00582-00125650-00125733 it now KUT_wmUenLM-00583-00125733-00125946 flames entered the car and burned a KUT_wmUenLM-00584-00125947-00126123 trail across the floor toward the fuel KUT_wmUenLM-00585-00126124-00126372 tank Binks and Bell grabbed oil-stained KUT_wmUenLM-00586-00126373-00126594 rags wrapped him around their hands for KUT_wmUenLM-00587-00126595-00126843 protection and beat the flames hopeless KUT_wmUenLM-00588-00126844-00127074 thought Binks looks as though all is up KUT_wmUenLM-00589-00127075-00127344 Powai said bill wanted to run through KUT_wmUenLM-00590-00127345-00127521 the flames but Binks convinced him to KUT_wmUenLM-00591-00127522-00127752 crouch in the shelter of the car the KUT_wmUenLM-00592-00127753-00127980 fire encroached on them links said he KUT_wmUenLM-00593-00127981-00128127 hoped they would suffocate before they KUT_wmUenLM-00594-00128128-00128352 burned to death far better Mel agreed KUT_wmUenLM-00595-00128353-00128622 than being roasted the heat softened the KUT_wmUenLM-00596-00128623-00128847 metal roof of the engine car it sank KUT_wmUenLM-00597-00128848-00129108 like a sheet of paper acrid smoke filled KUT_wmUenLM-00598-00129108-00129273 the car and Binks peered through its KUT_wmUenLM-00599-00129274-00129519 door the ship was burning from bow to KUT_wmUenLM-00600-00129520-00129758 aft he thought briefly about the pride KUT_wmUenLM-00601-00129759-00129953 and confidence he'd had in the ship even KUT_wmUenLM-00602-00129954-00130188 reflected on what a blow this was to the KUT_wmUenLM-00603-00130189-00130302 Royal airship works KUT_wmUenLM-00604-00130303-00130494 he and Bell shook hands as death KUT_wmUenLM-00605-00130495-00130733 approached somber and silent they KUT_wmUenLM-00606-00130734-00131004 resigned themselves to their fate in the KUT_wmUenLM-00607-00131005-00131241 smoking-room thick acrid smoke smothered KUT_wmUenLM-00608-00131242-00131490 leech he struggled to lift a bangerter KUT_wmUenLM-00609-00131491-00131634 and with great effort managed to free KUT_wmUenLM-00610-00131635-00131826 himself he grabbed the leg of the KUT_wmUenLM-00611-00131827-00131985 built-in bench and ripped it from the KUT_wmUenLM-00612-00131986-00132186 inner wall of the ship it tore an KUT_wmUenLM-00613-00132187-00132408 opening to the outside he stuck his head KUT_wmUenLM-00614-00132409-00132588 through it gulped in fresh air then KUT_wmUenLM-00615-00132589-00132807 squeezed through the opening he stood KUT_wmUenLM-00616-00132808-00133005 outside the ship but the seven windows KUT_wmUenLM-00617-00133006-00133167 from the promenade deck blocked his path KUT_wmUenLM-00618-00133168-00133335 to safety the KUT_wmUenLM-00619-00133336-00133529 knocked the panes from their frames and KUT_wmUenLM-00620-00133530-00133682 they now were ablaze on the ground KUT_wmUenLM-00621-00133683-00133890 propelled by the fear of the burning KUT_wmUenLM-00622-00133891-00134091 ship beside him Lee transferred the maze KUT_wmUenLM-00623-00134092-00134286 of burning windows until he felt wet KUT_wmUenLM-00624-00134287-00134586 cool grass in his bunker dispirited KUT_wmUenLM-00625-00134587-00134820 dizzy lay on the floor his attempts to KUT_wmUenLM-00626-00134821-00134958 beat a hole through the cloth Walla KUT_wmUenLM-00627-00134959-00135234 proved futile the fire raged around him KUT_wmUenLM-00628-00135235-00135479 like a tornado then without warning he KUT_wmUenLM-00629-00135480-00135681 felt the floor break exposing a torn KUT_wmUenLM-00630-00135682-00135873 section of a cloth cover below him he KUT_wmUenLM-00631-00135874-00136107 enlarged the hole by beating on it with KUT_wmUenLM-00632-00136108-00136341 his fists punching in a frenzy until he KUT_wmUenLM-00633-00136342-00136553 broke through his hand striking cold KUT_wmUenLM-00634-00136554-00136766 ground a sharp contrast to the blaze KUT_wmUenLM-00635-00136767-00137001 behind him he squeezed his body through KUT_wmUenLM-00636-00137002-00137165 the opening and crawled along the seam KUT_wmUenLM-00637-00137166-00137400 of the cloth and then he collapsed in KUT_wmUenLM-00638-00137401-00137646 the rear-engine car Binks and Bell KUT_wmUenLM-00639-00137647-00137922 huddled flames engulfed the car then KUT_wmUenLM-00640-00137923-00138093 without warning a half ton of water KUT_wmUenLM-00641-00138094-00138329 flooded on the roof of the engine car it KUT_wmUenLM-00642-00138330-00138515 rushed through the open door and smashed KUT_wmUenLM-00643-00138516-00138726 the men against the wall but it doused KUT_wmUenLM-00644-00138727-00139014 the flames splendid and merciful water KUT_wmUenLM-00645-00139015-00139287 our Saviour thought banks to avoid KUT_wmUenLM-00646-00139288-00139482 inhaling smoke the drenched man slapped KUT_wmUenLM-00647-00139483-00139620 over their mouths the charred rags KUT_wmUenLM-00648-00139621-00139863 they'd used to beat the flames banks KUT_wmUenLM-00649-00139864-00140070 hesitated to rush from the car although KUT_wmUenLM-00650-00140071-00140262 there was a fire free path to the edge KUT_wmUenLM-00651-00140263-00140424 of the shattered framework he could see KUT_wmUenLM-00652-00140425-00140718 no further was it safe but belt darted KUT_wmUenLM-00653-00140719-00140925 from the car and Binx followed reacting KUT_wmUenLM-00654-00140926-00141150 instead of calculating the two men ran KUT_wmUenLM-00655-00141151-00141333 over the charred ground through red hot KUT_wmUenLM-00656-00141334-00141537 glowing wreckage they ran until they KUT_wmUenLM-00657-00141538-00141801 fell against French soil safe now they KUT_wmUenLM-00658-00141802-00141957 looked back at the wreckage as the rain KUT_wmUenLM-00659-00141958-00142122 beat on them and the gale-force winds KUT_wmUenLM-00660-00142123-00142371 blew black smoke into their eyes hello KUT_wmUenLM-00661-00142372-00142584 hello anybody out where are you cried KUT_wmUenLM-00662-00142585-00142865 banks here's one mr. Leeds replied Leeds KUT_wmUenLM-00663-00142866-00143139 obscured by smoke where are you and how KUT_wmUenLM-00664-00143140-00143354 many are you brink Simbel identified KUT_wmUenLM-00665-00143355-00143496 themselves and fumbled their way to KUT_wmUenLM-00666-00143497-00143733 leech the three days men surveyed the KUT_wmUenLM-00667-00143734-00144060 wreckage imposing r101 the great machine KUT_wmUenLM-00668-00144061-00144273 to connect the vast geographic sweep of KUT_wmUenLM-00669-00144274-00144501 the British Empire was now a tangle of KUT_wmUenLM-00670-00144502-00144750 debris on the ground only the rudder at KUT_wmUenLM-00671-00144751-00145020 the stern still stood tall rags in KUT_wmUenLM-00672-00145021-00145178 strips of fabric hung from it and KUT_wmUenLM-00673-00145179-00145377 fluttered in the wind the center section KUT_wmUenLM-00674-00145378-00145634 rocking on his hinges swinging aimlessly KUT_wmUenLM-00675-00145635-00145887 60 feet high in the air at the tip of KUT_wmUenLM-00676-00145888-00146121 the stern almost untouched by any flames KUT_wmUenLM-00677-00146122-00146370 the ship's RAF instant flapped in the KUT_wmUenLM-00678-00146371-00146589 wind the Union Jack on the flag was KUT_wmUenLM-00679-00146590-00146682 partly burned KUT_wmUenLM-00680-00146683-00146894 but the area from dough was intact KUT_wmUenLM-00681-00146895-00147125 forward for the rudder the girders of KUT_wmUenLM-00682-00147126-00147278 the ship's framework were twisted its KUT_wmUenLM-00683-00147279-00147554 round rings distorted long gone for most KUT_wmUenLM-00684-00147555-00147723 of the framework where the delicate gas KUT_wmUenLM-00685-00147724-00147984 bags and plasticize cloth cover both KUT_wmUenLM-00686-00147985-00148299 vaporized by the raging fire only ropes KUT_wmUenLM-00687-00148300-00148526 ingenious wire netting remained like a KUT_wmUenLM-00688-00148527-00148737 giant spiderweb spawn over the ship's KUT_wmUenLM-00689-00148738-00148995 carcass the polished 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KUT_wmUenLM-00703-00151870-00152090 articles suitcases fur-lined boots KUT_wmUenLM-00704-00152091-00152343 charged shaving brushes ten of KUT_wmUenLM-00705-00152344-00152576 cigarettes a ticking watch and untouched KUT_wmUenLM-00706-00152577-00152745 by the flames the latest issue of KUT_wmUenLM-00707-00152746-00152997 wireless world and the stores so KUT_wmUenLM-00708-00152998-00153150 carefully stowed by the chief steward KUT_wmUenLM-00709-00153151-00153413 were strewn on the ground a few loaves KUT_wmUenLM-00710-00153414-00153645 of bread and a still labeled 10 of plums KUT_wmUenLM-00711-00153646-00153924 its juice leaking from the can from this KUT_wmUenLM-00712-00153925-00154125 debris a charred crew member rose but KUT_wmUenLM-00713-00154126-00154359 didn't fell back into the flames this KUT_wmUenLM-00714-00154360-00154533 snapped Binks Belen leached from their KUT_wmUenLM-00715-00154534-00154725 shock they lurched toward the burning KUT_wmUenLM-00716-00154726-00154947 wreckage and raced to an engine car they KUT_wmUenLM-00717-00154948-00155094 smashed its windows to free any KUT_wmUenLM-00718-00155095-00155349 survivors leech cried if there anybody KUT_wmUenLM-00719-00155350-00155619 inside they saw an engineer his body KUT_wmUenLM-00720-00155620-00155801 carbonized still clutching a wrench in KUT_wmUenLM-00721-00155802-00156072 his hand the inferno drove them back so KUT_wmUenLM-00722-00156073-00156249 the three men circled the blazing ship KUT_wmUenLM-00723-00156250-00156483 to search for survivors leach heard a KUT_wmUenLM-00724-00156484-00156720 voice from inside he grabbed a piece of KUT_wmUenLM-00725-00156721-00156858 the burning wreckage and used it his KUT_wmUenLM-00726-00156859-00157088 torch he rushed back into the red-hot KUT_wmUenLM-00727-00157089-00157260 girders and freed Isley the radio KUT_wmUenLM-00728-00157261-00157461 operator who was unconscious at the edge KUT_wmUenLM-00729-00157462-00157700 of the ship the men also found two more KUT_wmUenLM-00730-00157701-00157899 engineers including the chaplain look KUT_wmUenLM-00731-00157900-00158109 like Alf cook and two riggers both KUT_wmUenLM-00732-00158110-00158208 severely burned KUT_wmUenLM-00733-00158209-00158588 Binx called for survivors no replies no KUT_wmUenLM-00734-00158589-00158847 sign of Thomson Scott Irwin a Thurston KUT_wmUenLM-00735-00158848-00159048 or any other officer or crew member the KUT_wmUenLM-00736-00159049-00159263 only sound was the hiss of rain KUT_wmUenLM-00737-00159264-00159474 evaporating as it struck the smoldering KUT_wmUenLM-00738-00159475-00160399 wreckage of our 101 KUT_wmUenLM-00739-00160400-00160606 you KV04x8zcnLu-00000-00000021-00000430 [Music] KV04x8zcnLu-00001-00000431-00000526 otan KV04x8zcnLu-00002-00000527-00000732 outreach and technical assistance KV04x8zcnLu-00003-00000733-00001491 [Music] KV04x8zcnLu-00004-00001492-00001918 network KV04x8zcnLu-00005-00001919-00002295 okay so hi everybody good afternoon KV04x8zcnLu-00006-00002296-00002695 uh my name is uh barry mckean KV04x8zcnLu-00007-00002696-00002910 and i'm an instructional technology KV04x8zcnLu-00008-00002911-00003110 teacher advisor KV04x8zcnLu-00009-00003111-00003311 for the division of adult and career KV04x8zcnLu-00010-00003311-00003503 education of the los angeles unified KV04x8zcnLu-00011-00003504-00003663 school district KV04x8zcnLu-00012-00003664-00004151 which is a really nice position to have KV04x8zcnLu-00013-00004152-00004335 if you're interested in technology and KV04x8zcnLu-00014-00004336-00004519 i'm very grateful that the division KV04x8zcnLu-00015-00004520-00004695 created this position but basically it's KV04x8zcnLu-00016-00004696-00004886 an out of classroom KV04x8zcnLu-00017-00004887-00005254 uh position uh working with uh KV04x8zcnLu-00018-00005255-00005599 teachers uh and administrators and KV04x8zcnLu-00019-00005600-00005863 you know all staff basically at our our KV04x8zcnLu-00020-00005864-00005951 site KV04x8zcnLu-00021-00005952-00006247 uh to help introduce and integrate KV04x8zcnLu-00022-00006248-00006343 technology KV04x8zcnLu-00023-00006344-00006678 uh into instruction so i'm very grateful KV04x8zcnLu-00024-00006679-00006798 to have that position KV04x8zcnLu-00025-00006800-00007110 and i'm also a subject matter expert for KV04x8zcnLu-00026-00007111-00007239 otan KV04x8zcnLu-00027-00007240-00007446 which means that i get to do these KV04x8zcnLu-00028-00007447-00007670 presentations and KV04x8zcnLu-00029-00007672-00007974 online and also uh in person when that's KV04x8zcnLu-00030-00007975-00008103 going to resume again KV04x8zcnLu-00031-00008104-00008439 hopefully uh sometime in uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00032-00008440-00008742 by the end of 2021 or KV04x8zcnLu-00033-00008743-00009006 perhaps the beginning of 2022 no no KV04x8zcnLu-00034-00009007-00009191 telling how that's going to go KV04x8zcnLu-00035-00009192-00009503 but in any case this presentation is KV04x8zcnLu-00036-00009504-00009678 called easy office KV04x8zcnLu-00037-00009679-00009999 projects part one focusing on word KV04x8zcnLu-00038-00010000-00010310 uh and powerpoint uh projects KV04x8zcnLu-00039-00010311-00010551 uh so let me go ahead and talk a little KV04x8zcnLu-00040-00010552-00010727 bit about KV04x8zcnLu-00041-00010728-00011151 uh what we're gonna be covering today KV04x8zcnLu-00042-00011152-00011367 this is the the standard slide about KV04x8zcnLu-00043-00011368-00011599 what otan does KV04x8zcnLu-00044-00011600-00011927 but hopefully by the end of this webinar KV04x8zcnLu-00045-00011928-00012110 you as participants will be able to KV04x8zcnLu-00046-00012111-00012319 demonstrate to your KV04x8zcnLu-00047-00012320-00012606 esl ab and academic students several KV04x8zcnLu-00048-00012607-00012774 separate projects KV04x8zcnLu-00049-00012775-00013127 using uh microsoft word or powerpoint KV04x8zcnLu-00050-00013128-00013383 um and so hopefully your students will KV04x8zcnLu-00051-00013384-00013575 also be able to practice vocabulary KV04x8zcnLu-00052-00013576-00013671 grammar KV04x8zcnLu-00053-00013672-00013927 uh or demonstrate mastery of content by KV04x8zcnLu-00054-00013928-00014079 so doing KV04x8zcnLu-00055-00014080-00014279 i will say that when i first started KV04x8zcnLu-00056-00014280-00014494 doing um this series KV04x8zcnLu-00057-00014495-00014775 uh i was heavily focused on using the KV04x8zcnLu-00058-00014776-00014855 office KV04x8zcnLu-00059-00014856-00015215 uh you know applications KV04x8zcnLu-00060-00015216-00015415 but uh pretty much everything that i'll KV04x8zcnLu-00061-00015416-00015543 demonstrate KV04x8zcnLu-00062-00015544-00015807 uh it can also be done using google docs KV04x8zcnLu-00063-00015808-00015935 or slides KV04x8zcnLu-00064-00015936-00016255 with minimal adaptation so perhaps next KV04x8zcnLu-00065-00016256-00016375 year when KV04x8zcnLu-00066-00016376-00016639 i revise this uh we'll get into you know KV04x8zcnLu-00067-00016640-00016799 i'll just change the name as well KV04x8zcnLu-00068-00016800-00017158 but in any case let me continue KV04x8zcnLu-00069-00017159-00017575 so uh i started these projects KV04x8zcnLu-00070-00017576-00017855 uh many many many years ago in the KV04x8zcnLu-00071-00017856-00017919 completely KV04x8zcnLu-00072-00017920-00018222 uh face-to-face environment uh KV04x8zcnLu-00073-00018223-00018543 in short um i was i had a KV04x8zcnLu-00074-00018544-00018830 a four day a week i'm sorry five day a KV04x8zcnLu-00075-00018831-00019055 week four hours a day class KV04x8zcnLu-00076-00019056-00019422 uh in a computer lab it was an esl KV04x8zcnLu-00077-00019423-00019727 class in a computer lab uh KV04x8zcnLu-00078-00019728-00020055 and uh as much as you know i i had KV04x8zcnLu-00079-00020056-00020263 experience and interest in KV04x8zcnLu-00080-00020264-00020663 using uh websites and other KV04x8zcnLu-00081-00020664-00020927 you know software applications uh like KV04x8zcnLu-00082-00020928-00021063 you know rosetta stone KV04x8zcnLu-00083-00021064-00021375 or you know the oxford picture KV04x8zcnLu-00084-00021376-00021607 dictionary online things like that i KV04x8zcnLu-00085-00021608-00021686 couldn't KV04x8zcnLu-00086-00021687-00021983 maintain student interest for that much KV04x8zcnLu-00087-00021984-00022039 time KV04x8zcnLu-00088-00022040-00022303 only on the computer and that's when i KV04x8zcnLu-00089-00022304-00022358 started KV04x8zcnLu-00090-00022359-00022567 uh thinking well maybe let me get them KV04x8zcnLu-00091-00022568-00022799 involved with doing some projects KV04x8zcnLu-00092-00022800-00023158 and uh the projects uh would be KV04x8zcnLu-00093-00023159-00023358 using the applications that were on KV04x8zcnLu-00094-00023359-00023519 every computer KV04x8zcnLu-00095-00023520-00023878 and i felt that by so doing KV04x8zcnLu-00096-00023879-00024183 i could not only maintain interest but KV04x8zcnLu-00097-00024184-00024247 uh KV04x8zcnLu-00098-00024248-00024399 doing the project would serve a dual KV04x8zcnLu-00099-00024400-00024583 purpose for esl students KV04x8zcnLu-00100-00024584-00024903 of not only practicing language but also KV04x8zcnLu-00101-00024904-00025014 learning KV04x8zcnLu-00102-00025015-00025311 uh some of the you know needed uh very KV04x8zcnLu-00103-00025312-00025503 very basic techniques about KV04x8zcnLu-00104-00025504-00025687 uh using you know the office KV04x8zcnLu-00105-00025688-00025806 productivity KV04x8zcnLu-00106-00025807-00026143 uh app so the very first one uh KV04x8zcnLu-00107-00026144-00026502 was i just used to call about me uh KV04x8zcnLu-00108-00026504-00026879 and very simply uh i would take photos KV04x8zcnLu-00109-00026880-00027302 of students uh so as i came in the room KV04x8zcnLu-00110-00027304-00027446 uh came in the classroom at the KV04x8zcnLu-00111-00027447-00027607 beginning of the semester KV04x8zcnLu-00112-00027608-00028007 and then uh i would use those photos as KV04x8zcnLu-00113-00028008-00028079 the basis KV04x8zcnLu-00114-00028080-00028414 for this little very simple project KV04x8zcnLu-00115-00028416-00028535 where the students were to tell me a KV04x8zcnLu-00116-00028536-00028743 little bit about themselves KV04x8zcnLu-00117-00028744-00029055 so this served several purposes that i KV04x8zcnLu-00118-00029056-00029174 found useful KV04x8zcnLu-00119-00029175-00029383 not just in the moment but over the long KV04x8zcnLu-00120-00029383-00029487 run KV04x8zcnLu-00121-00029488-00029662 because i would save everything for KV04x8zcnLu-00122-00029663-00029799 every semester KV04x8zcnLu-00123-00029800-00030102 and what i began to collect was KV04x8zcnLu-00124-00030103-00030431 quite an archive of former student KV04x8zcnLu-00125-00030432-00030614 writings KV04x8zcnLu-00126-00030616-00031062 and so that was helpful in the moment KV04x8zcnLu-00127-00031063-00031239 many times students will come into class KV04x8zcnLu-00128-00031239-00031487 and i couldn't quite remember their name KV04x8zcnLu-00129-00031488-00031702 uh at the moment but uh so i could KV04x8zcnLu-00130-00031703-00031911 casually like you know at the computer KV04x8zcnLu-00131-00031912-00032199 uh scroll through that semester's photos KV04x8zcnLu-00132-00032200-00032343 and documents and KV04x8zcnLu-00133-00032344-00032583 and remember the name as a little crutch KV04x8zcnLu-00134-00032583-00032646 and then that KV04x8zcnLu-00135-00032647-00032911 also served the purpose uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00136-00032912-00033102 years or semesters later when i would KV04x8zcnLu-00137-00033103-00033327 see those same students again KV04x8zcnLu-00138-00033328-00033631 and uh many of them i was able to KV04x8zcnLu-00139-00033632-00033951 share their very first KV04x8zcnLu-00140-00033952-00034343 written document from esl one KV04x8zcnLu-00141-00034344-00034559 with them many many years later when KV04x8zcnLu-00142-00034560-00034799 they told me they were now in their ged KV04x8zcnLu-00143-00034800-00034959 program and getting their diploma so KV04x8zcnLu-00144-00034960-00035135 that was always very very KV04x8zcnLu-00145-00035136-00035399 nice so uh and of course it serves the KV04x8zcnLu-00146-00035400-00035511 purpose of KV04x8zcnLu-00147-00035512-00035655 you know you find out some information KV04x8zcnLu-00148-00035656-00035815 about the students KV04x8zcnLu-00149-00035816-00036118 uh you also get a sense of their writing KV04x8zcnLu-00150-00036119-00036199 level and KV04x8zcnLu-00151-00036200-00036367 uh if you were actually face to face KV04x8zcnLu-00152-00036368-00036551 with them in the classroom i could KV04x8zcnLu-00153-00036552-00036774 get a sense of how they were functioning KV04x8zcnLu-00154-00036775-00036983 in front of a computer KV04x8zcnLu-00155-00036984-00037462 um and uh also for KV04x8zcnLu-00156-00037463-00037774 you know if you save successive copies KV04x8zcnLu-00157-00037775-00037935 even if you start KV04x8zcnLu-00158-00037936-00038190 with pencil and paper uh copies of the KV04x8zcnLu-00159-00038191-00038343 writing KV04x8zcnLu-00160-00038344-00038502 you know you introduce students to the KV04x8zcnLu-00161-00038503-00038799 idea of writing a draft and revising KV04x8zcnLu-00162-00038800-00039111 uh revision you know and revision KV04x8zcnLu-00163-00039112-00039351 and that was also handy when it came KV04x8zcnLu-00164-00039352-00039518 time for accreditation KV04x8zcnLu-00165-00039519-00039799 uh because i condemn i had a you know i KV04x8zcnLu-00166-00039800-00039951 was able to demonstrate KV04x8zcnLu-00167-00039952-00040255 uh improvement so in any case that was KV04x8zcnLu-00168-00040256-00040471 the very first project KV04x8zcnLu-00169-00040472-00040799 uh in terms of uh you know the actual KV04x8zcnLu-00170-00040800-00041135 techniques for the application uh KV04x8zcnLu-00171-00041136-00041374 you know very very basic keyboarding KV04x8zcnLu-00172-00041375-00041471 skills KV04x8zcnLu-00173-00041472-00041815 uh and introduction to saving documents KV04x8zcnLu-00174-00041816-00042207 uh back in the day it was floppy disks KV04x8zcnLu-00175-00042208-00042551 some of you may remember those and KV04x8zcnLu-00176-00042552-00042911 you know every other uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00177-00042912-00043135 technique for saving documents uh in the KV04x8zcnLu-00178-00043136-00043295 meantime KV04x8zcnLu-00179-00043296-00043574 how much you let the student do or i let KV04x8zcnLu-00180-00043575-00043662 the student do was KV04x8zcnLu-00181-00043663-00043951 dependent on the students uh or and you KV04x8zcnLu-00182-00043952-00044135 can make that decision for yourself KV04x8zcnLu-00183-00044136-00044399 you know whether you provide a like a KV04x8zcnLu-00184-00044400-00044543 template like this and all they have to KV04x8zcnLu-00185-00044544-00044783 do is click on it and delete KV04x8zcnLu-00186-00044784-00045015 certain parts of it and then replace it KV04x8zcnLu-00187-00045016-00045143 with their own information or whether KV04x8zcnLu-00188-00045144-00045311 they're going to do everything KV04x8zcnLu-00189-00045312-00045502 from scratch so anyway that was the very KV04x8zcnLu-00190-00045503-00045655 first project KV04x8zcnLu-00191-00045656-00045999 uh you know i uh we're not going to KV04x8zcnLu-00192-00046000-00046335 go over how to do it but certainly if KV04x8zcnLu-00193-00046336-00046415 there are questions KV04x8zcnLu-00194-00046416-00046751 about it uh later uh KV04x8zcnLu-00195-00046752-00047183 i can certainly give you some more ideas KV04x8zcnLu-00196-00047184-00047551 but so you know as recently KV04x8zcnLu-00197-00047552-00047855 for many many teachers as the beginning KV04x8zcnLu-00198-00047856-00048174 of last year uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00199-00048175-00048535 things went online in a hurry KV04x8zcnLu-00200-00048536-00048839 for everybody very very rapidly KV04x8zcnLu-00201-00048840-00049158 and uh you know teachers who KV04x8zcnLu-00202-00049159-00049430 may not have been accustomed to using KV04x8zcnLu-00203-00049431-00049646 the learning management system KV04x8zcnLu-00204-00049647-00049855 all of a sudden you know we're faced KV04x8zcnLu-00205-00049856-00050039 with uh transferring KV04x8zcnLu-00206-00050040-00050374 face-to-face projects uh into an online KV04x8zcnLu-00207-00050375-00050815 uh environment so uh obviously KV04x8zcnLu-00208-00050816-00051071 you know even if you're using a learning KV04x8zcnLu-00209-00051072-00051223 management system KV04x8zcnLu-00210-00051224-00051454 you know you could have students create KV04x8zcnLu-00211-00051455-00051590 the entire document KV04x8zcnLu-00212-00051591-00051823 you know on word or on google docs for KV04x8zcnLu-00213-00051824-00051942 that matter as well KV04x8zcnLu-00214-00051944-00052142 and email it to you you know that's KV04x8zcnLu-00215-00052144-00052358 certainly a possibility KV04x8zcnLu-00216-00052359-00052550 but uh you know with the new learning KV04x8zcnLu-00217-00052551-00052807 management systems that you may be using KV04x8zcnLu-00218-00052808-00053071 uh there may be other ways to adapt this KV04x8zcnLu-00219-00053072-00053166 project KV04x8zcnLu-00220-00053167-00053326 so the learning management system that KV04x8zcnLu-00221-00053327-00053479 we use KV04x8zcnLu-00222-00053479-00053719 at los angeles unified the school KV04x8zcnLu-00223-00053720-00053854 district is schoologies KV04x8zcnLu-00224-00053855-00054150 this may appear familiar to uh to some KV04x8zcnLu-00225-00054151-00054271 of you KV04x8zcnLu-00226-00054272-00054479 but uh you know you may consider KV04x8zcnLu-00227-00054479-00054582 adapting the pro KV04x8zcnLu-00228-00054583-00054887 the entire project to something that KV04x8zcnLu-00229-00054888-00055054 fits your learning management style KV04x8zcnLu-00230-00055055-00055366 or a system and so uh the whole thing KV04x8zcnLu-00231-00055367-00055479 could be done KV04x8zcnLu-00232-00055479-00055854 uh as a profile so in schoology KV04x8zcnLu-00233-00055855-00056023 you know you have an opportunity to post KV04x8zcnLu-00234-00056024-00056294 a pic and then write a short KV04x8zcnLu-00235-00056295-00056630 biography of yourself and KV04x8zcnLu-00236-00056632-00056959 you know and that can be this project KV04x8zcnLu-00237-00056960-00057215 um and so you know what you would want KV04x8zcnLu-00238-00057216-00057303 to do KV04x8zcnLu-00239-00057304-00057511 is and obviously there are so many KV04x8zcnLu-00240-00057512-00057703 systems out there that i can't uh KV04x8zcnLu-00241-00057704-00058007 just you know talk about them all from KV04x8zcnLu-00242-00058008-00058071 personal KV04x8zcnLu-00243-00058072-00058359 uh knowledge but you could you know see KV04x8zcnLu-00244-00058360-00058454 what you have KV04x8zcnLu-00245-00058455-00058711 and decide for yourself uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00246-00058712-00058879 let's do this project but you know maybe KV04x8zcnLu-00247-00058879-00059079 instead of doing it as a word document KV04x8zcnLu-00248-00059079-00059399 maybe we can do it as a a bio KV04x8zcnLu-00249-00059400-00059566 or maybe we'll do it as part of a KV04x8zcnLu-00250-00059567-00059838 discussion you know where the teacher KV04x8zcnLu-00251-00059839-00060054 would post as a discussion topic you KV04x8zcnLu-00252-00060055-00060230 know post a picture of yourself KV04x8zcnLu-00253-00060232-00060399 and write a few words or write a few KV04x8zcnLu-00254-00060400-00060582 sentences or write a paragraph KV04x8zcnLu-00255-00060583-00060815 uh about yourself and then other KV04x8zcnLu-00256-00060816-00060966 students could comment KV04x8zcnLu-00257-00060967-00061294 on on what you've posted uh KV04x8zcnLu-00258-00061295-00061630 also uh you know for those of you using KV04x8zcnLu-00259-00061632-00061919 uh you know a google drive or other uh KV04x8zcnLu-00260-00061920-00062071 application like that KV04x8zcnLu-00261-00062072-00062238 um you know you could do it as a shared KV04x8zcnLu-00262-00062239-00062438 document assign everybody a different KV04x8zcnLu-00263-00062439-00062535 page KV04x8zcnLu-00264-00062536-00062782 and uh you know have this project done KV04x8zcnLu-00265-00062783-00063135 that way KV04x8zcnLu-00266-00063136-00063454 so as in the physical classroom uh you KV04x8zcnLu-00267-00063455-00063582 also have to consider KV04x8zcnLu-00268-00063583-00063726 how are you going to present the KV04x8zcnLu-00269-00063727-00063935 instructions uh to your KV04x8zcnLu-00270-00063936-00064238 to your students in uh a sample KV04x8zcnLu-00271-00064239-00064647 and so uh if you're using uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00272-00064648-00064887 like a zoom meetings with your students KV04x8zcnLu-00273-00064888-00065079 with would that be the way that you KV04x8zcnLu-00274-00065079-00065319 uh show them the instructions and show KV04x8zcnLu-00275-00065320-00065463 them the project or KV04x8zcnLu-00276-00065464-00065806 some other self some other way you know KV04x8zcnLu-00277-00065807-00066126 send it to them using remind or making KV04x8zcnLu-00278-00066127-00066150 it KV04x8zcnLu-00279-00066151-00066447 a sign an assignment in your system and KV04x8zcnLu-00280-00066448-00066550 again KV04x8zcnLu-00281-00066551-00066767 uh these are things that every KV04x8zcnLu-00282-00066768-00066863 instructor KV04x8zcnLu-00283-00066864-00067182 has to decide based on what tools are KV04x8zcnLu-00284-00067183-00067815 uh available available to them KV04x8zcnLu-00285-00067816-00068047 so um actually before we get into the KV04x8zcnLu-00286-00068048-00068294 first question let's uh KV04x8zcnLu-00287-00068295-00068599 let's see uh does anybody have a KV04x8zcnLu-00288-00068600-00068743 particular question about this whole KV04x8zcnLu-00289-00068744-00068847 aspect KV04x8zcnLu-00290-00068848-00069159 of uh deciding KV04x8zcnLu-00291-00069160-00069471 how to uh present the project KV04x8zcnLu-00292-00069472-00069791 and whether or not to use it um KV04x8zcnLu-00293-00069792-00069991 you know in what way to to present it KV04x8zcnLu-00294-00069992-00070247 with your own students KV04x8zcnLu-00295-00070248-00070615 well KV04x8zcnLu-00296-00070616-00070759 and remember that you would you would do KV04x8zcnLu-00297-00070760-00070950 that in the question and answer KV04x8zcnLu-00298-00070951-00071687 as opposed to in the chat KV04x8zcnLu-00299-00071688-00071862 okay so uh melinda i'm not seeing KV04x8zcnLu-00300-00071863-00071999 anything in the question and answer are KV04x8zcnLu-00301-00072000-00072047 you KV04x8zcnLu-00302-00072048-00072319 i'm not either no all right so let's go KV04x8zcnLu-00303-00072320-00072382 ahead KV04x8zcnLu-00304-00072383-00072679 all right so we'll move right along uh KV04x8zcnLu-00305-00072680-00072791 and this is uh KV04x8zcnLu-00306-00072792-00073079 this was often the next project that i KV04x8zcnLu-00307-00073080-00073119 would KV04x8zcnLu-00308-00073120-00073438 um introduce in class KV04x8zcnLu-00309-00073439-00073735 um i called it speech balloon KV04x8zcnLu-00310-00073736-00073935 conversations um KV04x8zcnLu-00311-00073936-00074287 and and basically it's a great way KV04x8zcnLu-00312-00074288-00074647 for students to practice uh some KV04x8zcnLu-00313-00074648-00074903 vocabulary grammar or content uh that KV04x8zcnLu-00314-00074904-00075111 you're covering in class KV04x8zcnLu-00315-00075112-00075343 and for that reason it's very very KV04x8zcnLu-00316-00075344-00075567 adaptable to all levels KV04x8zcnLu-00317-00075568-00075703 you know if you're doing a very KV04x8zcnLu-00318-00075704-00075903 beginning level class KV04x8zcnLu-00319-00075904-00076206 then you know what you're expected what KV04x8zcnLu-00320-00076207-00076367 you're expecting from them KV04x8zcnLu-00321-00076368-00076703 uh is minimal short sentences uh higher KV04x8zcnLu-00322-00076704-00076782 levels KV04x8zcnLu-00323-00076783-00077094 uh you know you you can make the the KV04x8zcnLu-00324-00077095-00077391 requirements uh you know for the content KV04x8zcnLu-00325-00077392-00077582 uh you know uh that much more KV04x8zcnLu-00326-00077583-00077743 complicated or complex KV04x8zcnLu-00327-00077744-00077950 you know so if you're studying uh you KV04x8zcnLu-00328-00077951-00078126 know like a present perfect KV04x8zcnLu-00329-00078127-00078311 uh then just say you know what in two of KV04x8zcnLu-00330-00078312-00078471 the speech balloons KV04x8zcnLu-00331-00078472-00078694 uh you know i want to see some examples KV04x8zcnLu-00332-00078695-00078847 of present perfect KV04x8zcnLu-00333-00078848-00079143 okay or i want to see an example of a KV04x8zcnLu-00334-00079144-00079294 you know some type of tag question KV04x8zcnLu-00335-00079295-00079511 whatever it is that you're working on KV04x8zcnLu-00336-00079512-00080006 um and then uh KV04x8zcnLu-00337-00080007-00080311 in addition to uh you know the idea of KV04x8zcnLu-00338-00080312-00080631 uh working with uh photos KV04x8zcnLu-00339-00080632-00080959 uh now uh you're inserting KV04x8zcnLu-00340-00080960-00081311 uh uh what uh both microsoft KV04x8zcnLu-00341-00081312-00081767 and also um documents and slides KV04x8zcnLu-00342-00081768-00082103 uh referred to as call outs so uh KV04x8zcnLu-00343-00082104-00082399 a call out is a basically a text box KV04x8zcnLu-00344-00082400-00082511 with a KV04x8zcnLu-00345-00082512-00082847 an arrow pointing to to what we KV04x8zcnLu-00346-00082848-00082926 understand KV04x8zcnLu-00347-00082927-00083279 uh to be the speaker uh who KV04x8zcnLu-00348-00083280-00083606 is saying that particular comment KV04x8zcnLu-00349-00083607-00083887 so let me just show you a few uh student KV04x8zcnLu-00350-00083888-00084079 samples KV04x8zcnLu-00351-00084080-00084447 actual student samples KV04x8zcnLu-00352-00084448-00084823 um so uh these are just a few KV04x8zcnLu-00353-00084824-00085182 that i called over the years uh KV04x8zcnLu-00354-00085183-00085567 where uh you can see the uh KV04x8zcnLu-00355-00085568-00085823 the students grasping the idea that KV04x8zcnLu-00356-00085824-00085935 there's a difference KV04x8zcnLu-00357-00085936-00086287 between what we call a speech KV04x8zcnLu-00358-00086288-00086543 uh call out or a speech balloon and a KV04x8zcnLu-00359-00086544-00086615 thought KV04x8zcnLu-00360-00086616-00087047 call out or a thought balloon and um KV04x8zcnLu-00361-00087048-00087438 i i haven't actually found out KV04x8zcnLu-00362-00087439-00087671 whether or not this idea that in KV04x8zcnLu-00363-00087672-00087823 cartoons KV04x8zcnLu-00364-00087824-00088159 of this type if the thought cloud KV04x8zcnLu-00365-00088160-00088431 where uh which represents somebody KV04x8zcnLu-00366-00088432-00088487 speaking KV04x8zcnLu-00367-00088488-00088735 is actually internationally understood KV04x8zcnLu-00368-00088736-00088831 as a thought KV04x8zcnLu-00369-00088832-00089094 instead of as a speech perhaps some of KV04x8zcnLu-00370-00089095-00089359 you who've been in other KV04x8zcnLu-00371-00089360-00089638 countries or you know have long time KV04x8zcnLu-00372-00089639-00089823 exposure to other cultures can KV04x8zcnLu-00373-00089824-00090111 can let us know if that's universal or KV04x8zcnLu-00374-00090112-00090247 if that's something that you you know KV04x8zcnLu-00375-00090248-00090423 also need to teach i would certainly KV04x8zcnLu-00376-00090424-00090782 mention it but the concept that um KV04x8zcnLu-00377-00090783-00091118 people say things that are KV04x8zcnLu-00378-00091119-00091406 different than what they are thinking is KV04x8zcnLu-00379-00091407-00091591 very very powerful and KV04x8zcnLu-00380-00091592-00091791 you can see from these next few examples KV04x8zcnLu-00381-00091792-00092191 that students really get that KV04x8zcnLu-00382-00092192-00092550 so again uh you know this again another KV04x8zcnLu-00383-00092551-00092687 example of a student KV04x8zcnLu-00384-00092688-00093006 uh demonstrating that what people think KV04x8zcnLu-00385-00093007-00093606 is different than uh what they say KV04x8zcnLu-00386-00093607-00093991 this one's uh i every time i see this KV04x8zcnLu-00387-00093992-00094087 one i i think KV04x8zcnLu-00388-00094088-00094287 this must have come from uh that KV04x8zcnLu-00389-00094288-00094438 particular student's uh KV04x8zcnLu-00390-00094439-00094718 you know somewhere in their personal uh KV04x8zcnLu-00391-00094719-00094823 history KV04x8zcnLu-00392-00094824-00095159 uh you know the fact that the KV04x8zcnLu-00393-00095160-00095503 the the partner is not being truthful KV04x8zcnLu-00394-00095504-00095750 about uh what it is that or the reason KV04x8zcnLu-00395-00095751-00095935 why he wants to go play KV04x8zcnLu-00396-00095936-00096287 uh tennis KV04x8zcnLu-00397-00096288-00096599 so uh i'm gonna play one KV04x8zcnLu-00398-00096600-00096871 uh as always uh students often have KV04x8zcnLu-00399-00096872-00096950 better KV04x8zcnLu-00400-00096951-00097182 better ideas or ways to improve a KV04x8zcnLu-00401-00097183-00097287 project KV04x8zcnLu-00402-00097288-00097518 uh than originally presented by the KV04x8zcnLu-00403-00097519-00097638 teacher KV04x8zcnLu-00404-00097639-00097982 and so uh for many uh KV04x8zcnLu-00405-00097983-00098174 for many years i did this project simply KV04x8zcnLu-00406-00098175-00098447 as a one-shot deal KV04x8zcnLu-00407-00098448-00098782 one slide or one document with one slide KV04x8zcnLu-00408-00098783-00099103 and in this particular case KV04x8zcnLu-00409-00099104-00099487 the student came back with four slides KV04x8zcnLu-00410-00099488-00099623 and what they had done was they had KV04x8zcnLu-00411-00099624-00099799 narrated the KV04x8zcnLu-00412-00099800-00100231 uh the the uh KV04x8zcnLu-00413-00100232-00100367 the different speech balloons i thought KV04x8zcnLu-00414-00100368-00100543 it was really nice so uh KV04x8zcnLu-00415-00100544-00100799 hopefully you'll be able to hear this um KV04x8zcnLu-00416-00100800-00100887 the sound KV04x8zcnLu-00417-00100888-00101174 as originally recorded was quite low so KV04x8zcnLu-00418-00101175-00101247 you may KV04x8zcnLu-00419-00101248-00101455 not get all of it i i hope that you can KV04x8zcnLu-00420-00101456-00101574 hear it KV04x8zcnLu-00421-00101575-00101903 and i will say that the third slide KV04x8zcnLu-00422-00101904-00102262 does does not have any audio KV04x8zcnLu-00423-00102263-00102663 having this baby was our dream KV04x8zcnLu-00424-00102664-00103678 i love you and the baby so much there KV04x8zcnLu-00425-00103679-00104030 i so KV04x8zcnLu-00426-00104031-00104302 there's the kicker uh you know i wonder KV04x8zcnLu-00427-00104303-00104406 if it's uh KV04x8zcnLu-00428-00104407-00104790 my baby and now as um as an instructor KV04x8zcnLu-00429-00104791-00105086 let me just go back one on that uh as an KV04x8zcnLu-00430-00105088-00105247 instructor also this would be a great KV04x8zcnLu-00431-00105248-00105327 time KV04x8zcnLu-00432-00105328-00105590 to work with that particular student uh KV04x8zcnLu-00433-00105591-00105758 with the pronunciation KV04x8zcnLu-00434-00105759-00105934 or the intonation of that particular KV04x8zcnLu-00435-00105935-00106078 phrase uh KV04x8zcnLu-00436-00106079-00106375 but again uh this was a student KV04x8zcnLu-00437-00106376-00106439 improvement KV04x8zcnLu-00438-00106440-00106663 of my original project but some KV04x8zcnLu-00439-00106664-00106815 certainly something that you could KV04x8zcnLu-00440-00106816-00107134 uh consider KV04x8zcnLu-00441-00107135-00107471 so uh what i'd like to do now though KV04x8zcnLu-00442-00107472-00107727 uh is even though i'm sure most of you KV04x8zcnLu-00443-00107728-00107775 are KV04x8zcnLu-00444-00107776-00108078 very very familiar with inserting images KV04x8zcnLu-00445-00108079-00108423 and inserting text you may not be as KV04x8zcnLu-00446-00108424-00108558 familiar KV04x8zcnLu-00447-00108559-00108895 with uh inserting KV04x8zcnLu-00448-00108896-00109110 or working with the speech balloons or KV04x8zcnLu-00449-00109111-00109207 call outs KV04x8zcnLu-00450-00109208-00109527 so i thought i would uh interrupt the KV04x8zcnLu-00451-00109528-00109783 uh presentation at this point and just KV04x8zcnLu-00452-00109783-00109831 do that KV04x8zcnLu-00453-00109832-00110175 live so uh let's see KV04x8zcnLu-00454-00110176-00110447 if we can do that and hopefully let me KV04x8zcnLu-00455-00110448-00110683 get the KV04x8zcnLu-00456-00110683-00111231 um KV04x8zcnLu-00457-00111232-00111534 we'll start a new uh presentation on the KV04x8zcnLu-00458-00111535-00111663 left here you see KV04x8zcnLu-00459-00111664-00111983 basically the same project in uh as a KV04x8zcnLu-00460-00111983-00112375 google slide but for a KV04x8zcnLu-00461-00112376-00112566 powerpoint we'll do that here on the 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sorry let me get to the right folder KV04x8zcnLu-00478-00118103-00118358 oh that's tdls we don't want to be there KV04x8zcnLu-00479-00118359-00118831 that was last week KV04x8zcnLu-00480-00118832-00119110 there we go pictures for projects and so KV04x8zcnLu-00481-00119111-00119199 you may want to KV04x8zcnLu-00482-00119200-00119495 um discuss with students the idea that KV04x8zcnLu-00483-00119496-00119663 for this particular project KV04x8zcnLu-00484-00119664-00120071 you know pictures with a lot of KV04x8zcnLu-00485-00120072-00120319 uh students or a lot of individuals or a KV04x8zcnLu-00486-00120320-00120414 lot of you know KV04x8zcnLu-00487-00120415-00120766 animals uh you know are really helpful KV04x8zcnLu-00488-00120767-00120847 for this KV04x8zcnLu-00489-00120848-00121119 i i do try to tell students you know KV04x8zcnLu-00490-00121120-00121239 typically if you KV04x8zcnLu-00491-00121240-00121543 position your photo uh KV04x8zcnLu-00492-00121544-00121758 in the lower part of the page then you KV04x8zcnLu-00493-00121759-00122047 have room at the top and the sides KV04x8zcnLu-00494-00122048-00122390 for adding the speech balloons KV04x8zcnLu-00495-00122391-00122695 but in powerpoint uh you find them KV04x8zcnLu-00496-00122696-00123047 insert a shape KV04x8zcnLu-00497-00123048-00123271 and way down at the bottom they have KV04x8zcnLu-00498-00123272-00123431 call outs KV04x8zcnLu-00499-00123432-00123734 okay and and then you have a few KV04x8zcnLu-00500-00123735-00123999 types uh when you do that you draw on KV04x8zcnLu-00501-00124000-00124158 your screen KV04x8zcnLu-00502-00124159-00124463 and the default callout has this blue KV04x8zcnLu-00503-00124464-00124590 coloring KV04x8zcnLu-00504-00124591-00124807 but what's nice about that these are KV04x8zcnLu-00505-00124808-00125007 they're already text boxes KV04x8zcnLu-00506-00125008-00125614 okay so KV04x8zcnLu-00507-00125615-00125823 you all the student has to do is uh KV04x8zcnLu-00508-00125824-00126095 simply type in the text box to get it to KV04x8zcnLu-00509-00126096-00126207 work KV04x8zcnLu-00510-00126208-00126695 uh you can show them about resizing KV04x8zcnLu-00511-00126696-00127086 uh you can show them about changing the KV04x8zcnLu-00512-00127088-00127390 the size of the font KV04x8zcnLu-00513-00127391-00127790 you know and then the other part is KV04x8zcnLu-00514-00127791-00128207 using the uh the yellow button KV04x8zcnLu-00515-00128208-00128510 to direct it KV04x8zcnLu-00516-00128511-00128847 to the person who's who's speaking okay KV04x8zcnLu-00517-00128848-00129047 so let me just show that again it's KV04x8zcnLu-00518-00129048-00129286 insert KV04x8zcnLu-00519-00129288-00129623 a shape and then KV04x8zcnLu-00520-00129624-00130283 this time i'm going to select the cloud KV04x8zcnLu-00521-00130283-00130999 one KV04x8zcnLu-00522-00131000-00131414 okay and you know changing the the color KV04x8zcnLu-00523-00131415-00131743 of the shape is all something that you 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KV04x8zcnLu-00539-00137232-00137454 basic techniques for KV04x8zcnLu-00540-00137455-00137783 uh working uh with either word KV04x8zcnLu-00541-00137784-00138263 or uh slides or powerpoint or docs KV04x8zcnLu-00542-00138264-00138447 because you can also do this uh as a KV04x8zcnLu-00543-00138448-00138623 single uh page KV04x8zcnLu-00544-00138624-00138951 in word as well KV04x8zcnLu-00545-00138952-00139663 so KV04x8zcnLu-00546-00139664-00139927 okay so any questions about that before KV04x8zcnLu-00547-00139928-00140423 we continue KV04x8zcnLu-00548-00140424-00140663 and you're welcome to i hope some of you KV04x8zcnLu-00549-00140664-00140783 uh on your own KV04x8zcnLu-00550-00140784-00141095 device uh went ahead and and tried to KV04x8zcnLu-00551-00141096-00141223 recreate that KV04x8zcnLu-00552-00141224-00141607 and at least get uh you know one picture KV04x8zcnLu-00553-00141608-00141943 on your you know in a powerpoint or in a KV04x8zcnLu-00554-00141944-00142047 slide 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individual document uh KV04x8zcnLu-00571-00146496-00146831 using word or docs could also be done KV04x8zcnLu-00572-00146832-00147263 uh in as a powerpoint or slide KV04x8zcnLu-00573-00147264-00147583 but basically the idea is uh you know KV04x8zcnLu-00574-00147584-00147807 building on you know a picture is worth KV04x8zcnLu-00575-00147808-00147990 uh a thousand words KV04x8zcnLu-00576-00147991-00148319 we've heard that forever uh but KV04x8zcnLu-00577-00148320-00148631 uh you know pictures can be used uh KV04x8zcnLu-00578-00148632-00148959 for student uh demonstration of uh KV04x8zcnLu-00579-00148960-00149231 understanding or mastery uh this KV04x8zcnLu-00580-00149232-00149343 particular project KV04x8zcnLu-00581-00149344-00149647 uh that i'm showing you uh we were KV04x8zcnLu-00582-00149648-00149751 working with simple KV04x8zcnLu-00583-00149752-00150119 compound complex uh sentences KV04x8zcnLu-00584-00150120-00150383 and also you know adverbs of frequency 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KV04x8zcnLu-00616-00156840-00157175 media projects uh or as discussions KV04x8zcnLu-00617-00157176-00157407 uh you know in your learning management KV04x8zcnLu-00618-00157408-00157551 system KV04x8zcnLu-00619-00157552-00157911 and uh again you know perhaps they're KV04x8zcnLu-00620-00157912-00158007 learning KV04x8zcnLu-00621-00158008-00158239 uh you could choose to introduce a new KV04x8zcnLu-00622-00158240-00158343 technique KV04x8zcnLu-00623-00158344-00158487 you know either you know in this KV04x8zcnLu-00624-00158488-00158695 particular case perhaps either making a KV04x8zcnLu-00625-00158696-00158799 table KV04x8zcnLu-00626-00158800-00159126 or columns uh or you know KV04x8zcnLu-00627-00159127-00159414 what whatever it is that uh you know you KV04x8zcnLu-00628-00159415-00159526 feel would KV04x8zcnLu-00629-00159527-00159839 make this presentation in this KV04x8zcnLu-00630-00159840-00160159 particular way uh or this particular KV04x8zcnLu-00631-00160160-00160319 project you know it was picture on the KV04x8zcnLu-00632-00160320-00160439 left in KV04x8zcnLu-00633-00160440-00160695 you know sentences on the on the right KV04x8zcnLu-00634-00160696-00160887 uh but it could also be picture on top KV04x8zcnLu-00635-00160888-00161047 and sentences underneath KV04x8zcnLu-00636-00161048-00161335 uh whatever is appropriate for your your KV04x8zcnLu-00637-00161336-00161502 students KV04x8zcnLu-00638-00161503-00161671 i'm not going to go into how to do this KV04x8zcnLu-00639-00161672-00161819 so it's pretty uh KV04x8zcnLu-00640-00161820-00162095 self-explanatory but again the key point KV04x8zcnLu-00641-00162096-00162183 is it's KV04x8zcnLu-00642-00162184-00162478 the adaptability that uh you could do KV04x8zcnLu-00643-00162479-00162631 something like this KV04x8zcnLu-00644-00162632-00162854 with uh pretty much all all of your KV04x8zcnLu-00645-00162855-00163207 students KV04x8zcnLu-00646-00163208-00163695 now uh the next project KV04x8zcnLu-00647-00163696-00164111 that i 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are able to KV04x8zcnLu-00725-00184360-00184463 share KV04x8zcnLu-00726-00184464-00184671 uh you know because of their work or KV04x8zcnLu-00727-00184672-00184766 their own personal KV04x8zcnLu-00728-00184767-00185047 uh experience but again this is a you KV04x8zcnLu-00729-00185048-00185199 know an intermediate KV04x8zcnLu-00730-00185200-00185519 uh level student uh with a really really KV04x8zcnLu-00731-00185520-00185663 nice example KV04x8zcnLu-00732-00185664-00185919 of uh the topic people with type 2 KV04x8zcnLu-00733-00185920-00186038 diabetes KV04x8zcnLu-00734-00186039-00186407 and then a very beautiful uh KV04x8zcnLu-00735-00186408-00186854 you know essay written based on that KV04x8zcnLu-00736-00186855-00187119 so i hope this is uh giving you some KV04x8zcnLu-00737-00187120-00187254 some ideas KV04x8zcnLu-00738-00187255-00187687 uh i do want to uh do a little bit of KV04x8zcnLu-00739-00187688-00187983 practical uh walkthrough of of some some KV04x8zcnLu-00740-00187984-00188063 tips KV04x8zcnLu-00741-00188064-00188495 uh to make this uh project uh work well KV04x8zcnLu-00742-00188496-00188823 so let me go back to the uh KV04x8zcnLu-00743-00188824-00189231 present the live presentation KV04x8zcnLu-00744-00189232-00189566 and uh there we go KV04x8zcnLu-00745-00189567-00190302 we use this one KV04x8zcnLu-00746-00190303-00190566 and again this works this also works KV04x8zcnLu-00747-00190567-00190638 well KV04x8zcnLu-00748-00190639-00190943 in uh slides uh KV04x8zcnLu-00749-00190944-00191278 as well but KV04x8zcnLu-00750-00191279-00191526 um if you notice uh one of the things KV04x8zcnLu-00751-00191527-00191607 that i KV04x8zcnLu-00752-00191608-00191935 well i did notice uh when students were KV04x8zcnLu-00753-00191936-00192159 um actually let me go back and share one KV04x8zcnLu-00754-00192160-00192271 of those uh KV04x8zcnLu-00755-00192272-00192543 documents for just a moment let's uh go KV04x8zcnLu-00756-00192544-00192678 back to the 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will preface this by saying we've KV04x8zcnLu-01038-00269304-00269375 had KV04x8zcnLu-01039-00269376-00269703 spirited discussions in past KV04x8zcnLu-01040-00269704-00270119 um past workshops and webinars as to KV04x8zcnLu-01041-00270120-00270399 the actual order and you know those were KV04x8zcnLu-01042-00270400-00270510 all valid KV04x8zcnLu-01043-00270511-00270743 so you and and again that gives an KV04x8zcnLu-01044-00270744-00270951 opportunity for students to KV04x8zcnLu-01045-00270952-00271287 uh express themselves about the way that KV04x8zcnLu-01046-00271288-00271551 they think things should be so you do KV04x8zcnLu-01047-00271552-00271639 have uh KV04x8zcnLu-01048-00271640-00271975 go ahead uh take a look at the at the KV04x8zcnLu-01049-00271976-00272151 pictures KV04x8zcnLu-01050-00272152-00272551 uh and in the chat suggest KV04x8zcnLu-01051-00272552-00272775 what do you think would be the first KV04x8zcnLu-01052-00272776-00272967 slide and all you have to do is actually 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KV04x8zcnLu-01069-00278000-00278247 other people don't see uh what you're KV04x8zcnLu-01070-00278248-00278382 typing so that could be KV04x8zcnLu-01071-00278383-00278767 fine as well i just i cannot see that so KV04x8zcnLu-01072-00278768-00278799 uh KV04x8zcnLu-01073-00278800-00279103 melinda you're saying that a bunch of KV04x8zcnLu-01074-00279104-00279406 h's a bunch of h's okay it should be KV04x8zcnLu-01075-00279407-00279543 first so i'm going to move this up to KV04x8zcnLu-01076-00279544-00279599 the KV04x8zcnLu-01077-00279600-00279999 to the front position okay uh KV04x8zcnLu-01078-00280000-00280247 right so uh kim is saying i could use KV04x8zcnLu-01079-00280248-00280319 some coffee KV04x8zcnLu-01080-00280320-00280671 yeah i think that was similar to my uh KV04x8zcnLu-01081-00280672-00280863 intention but you know we don't have a KV04x8zcnLu-01082-00280864-00280991 final KV04x8zcnLu-01083-00280992-00281287 a final order yet okay let me see if i KV04x8zcnLu-01084-00281288-00281367 can KV04x8zcnLu-01085-00281368-00281623 uh increase the the size here just a KV04x8zcnLu-01086-00281624-00281958 little bit KV04x8zcnLu-01087-00281959-00282151 see what happens when i when i do it KV04x8zcnLu-01088-00282152-00282367 that way we lose the bottom KV04x8zcnLu-01089-00282368-00282727 part of the picture so it's got to be a KV04x8zcnLu-01090-00282728-00282895 little bit smaller KV04x8zcnLu-01091-00282896-00283206 let's see if i can do that yeah folks KV04x8zcnLu-01092-00283207-00283303 you also have the KV04x8zcnLu-01093-00283304-00283558 the option uh up in view options you KV04x8zcnLu-01094-00283559-00283782 could make it instead of fit to window KV04x8zcnLu-01095-00283783-00283975 you could make it a hundred percent KV04x8zcnLu-01096-00283976-00284206 um that makes a little harder because KV04x8zcnLu-01097-00284207-00284406 you need to scroll or make your window KV04x8zcnLu-01098-00284407-00285230 bigger but it is an option KV04x8zcnLu-01099-00285231-00285687 okay do we have melinda do we have a KV04x8zcnLu-01100-00285688-00285895 consensus on this what should be the KV04x8zcnLu-01101-00285896-00286023 second KV04x8zcnLu-01102-00286024-00286310 slide yet you didn't ask so no we're KV04x8zcnLu-01103-00286311-00286367 still KV04x8zcnLu-01104-00286368-00286751 the first my apologies yes KV04x8zcnLu-01105-00286752-00287110 okay let's go ahead and type in what you KV04x8zcnLu-01106-00287111-00287247 think could be KV04x8zcnLu-01107-00287248-00288482 a second preferred KV04x8zcnLu-01108-00288483-00289247 image KV04x8zcnLu-01109-00289248-00289558 okay answers are coming in we've got KV04x8zcnLu-01110-00289559-00289934 c okay uh any KV04x8zcnLu-01111-00289935-00290143 any variations on that anybody thinks KV04x8zcnLu-01112-00290144-00290503 something different KV04x8zcnLu-01113-00290504-00290847 okay not hearing anything we'll put c KV04x8zcnLu-01114-00290848-00291015 so it looks like we have somebody's KV04x8zcnLu-01115-00291016-00291167 thinking uh KV04x8zcnLu-01116-00291168-00291358 about having some coffee and then going KV04x8zcnLu-01117-00291359-00291471 to the cabinet KV04x8zcnLu-01118-00291472-00292119 to get some uh KV04x8zcnLu-01119-00292120-00292271 ingredients there we go that's the word KV04x8zcnLu-01120-00292272-00292447 i'm looking for okay and KV04x8zcnLu-01121-00292448-00293679 let's at least do one more KV04x8zcnLu-01122-00293680-00294119 so the third slide it looks like KV04x8zcnLu-01123-00294120-00294495 we actually have one a and then KV04x8zcnLu-01124-00294496-00295191 g's KV04x8zcnLu-01125-00295192-00295471 overwhelming majority say g but we also KV04x8zcnLu-01126-00295472-00295510 have an KV04x8zcnLu-01127-00295511-00295839 a and an f okay so uh KV04x8zcnLu-01128-00295840-00296039 since you said overwhelming majority KV04x8zcnLu-01129-00296040-00296199 we'll go with g KV04x8zcnLu-01130-00296200-00296439 but again i could very easily see how 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KV04x8zcnLu-01162-00303840-00304175 you can't put the uh sweetener uh KV04x8zcnLu-01163-00304176-00304423 or the creamer into the into the egg KV04x8zcnLu-01164-00304424-00304647 coffee until it's in the cup KV04x8zcnLu-01165-00304648-00305023 if that's what your photo is so uh KV04x8zcnLu-01166-00305024-00305327 again then you can go ahead and with the KV04x8zcnLu-01167-00305328-00305406 students you know KV04x8zcnLu-01168-00305407-00305743 play the final uh version that KV04x8zcnLu-01169-00305744-00305815 everybody's KV04x8zcnLu-01170-00305816-00306167 accepted so this is in itself KV04x8zcnLu-01171-00306168-00306454 is a you know a good conversation tool KV04x8zcnLu-01172-00306455-00306519 uh KV04x8zcnLu-01173-00306520-00306703 you know working with the students and KV04x8zcnLu-01174-00306704-00306854 introducing the idea KV04x8zcnLu-01175-00306855-00307191 of uh sequences and vocabulary KV04x8zcnLu-01176-00307192-00307463 in all the vocabulary words that uh you KV04x8zcnLu-01177-00307464-00307591 might use KV04x8zcnLu-01178-00307592-00307895 uh you know to describe sequencing KV04x8zcnLu-01179-00307896-00308071 but but like with so many of these KV04x8zcnLu-01180-00308072-00308247 projects it's really KV04x8zcnLu-01181-00308248-00308663 just the first step so the next step KV04x8zcnLu-01182-00308664-00308975 uh would be to let the students loose KV04x8zcnLu-01183-00308976-00309391 with this idea and give them KV04x8zcnLu-01184-00309392-00309703 some instruction okay KV04x8zcnLu-01185-00309704-00310054 and say you know what now you go ahead KV04x8zcnLu-01186-00310055-00310519 and you make KV04x8zcnLu-01187-00310520-00310806 a project so let me just get back over KV04x8zcnLu-01188-00310807-00311303 here to the KV04x8zcnLu-01189-00311304-00311654 uh you know the student on their own KV04x8zcnLu-01190-00311655-00312006 and so again now they have a little KV04x8zcnLu-01191-00312007-00312143 project to do KV04x8zcnLu-01192-00312144-00312447 uh you take pictures KV04x8zcnLu-01193-00312448-00312710 uh if you want you describe what's KV04x8zcnLu-01194-00312711-00312823 happening KV04x8zcnLu-01195-00312824-00313134 uh in each one and so uh KV04x8zcnLu-01196-00313135-00313430 this is an actual uh student student KV04x8zcnLu-01197-00313431-00313534 project KV04x8zcnLu-01198-00313535-00313863 uh about uh steps for painting KV04x8zcnLu-01199-00313864-00314191 uh your nails and then again uh KV04x8zcnLu-01200-00314192-00314447 you know this this has implications uh KV04x8zcnLu-01201-00314448-00314534 beyond just KV04x8zcnLu-01202-00314535-00314830 esl and academic classrooms uh if any of KV04x8zcnLu-01203-00314831-00314871 you KV04x8zcnLu-01204-00314872-00315230 um you know are in cte classrooms uh KV04x8zcnLu-01205-00315231-00315543 you know actually taking pictures of you KV04x8zcnLu-01206-00315544-00315727 doing something or having the student KV04x8zcnLu-01207-00315728-00315879 take pictures of the student doing KV04x8zcnLu-01208-00315880-00315967 something KV04x8zcnLu-01209-00315968-00316215 is actually uh pretty critical since KV04x8zcnLu-01210-00316216-00316287 they can't KV04x8zcnLu-01211-00316288-00316447 you know demonstrate it in front of you KV04x8zcnLu-01212-00316448-00316615 in the classroom anymore KV04x8zcnLu-01213-00316616-00316919 they could take a video or they could uh KV04x8zcnLu-01214-00316920-00317095 you know do this type of presentation at KV04x8zcnLu-01215-00317096-00317343 home and in fact that's what many KV04x8zcnLu-01216-00317344-00317663 uh cte teachers um are doing KV04x8zcnLu-01217-00317664-00318151 uh in in real life so uh this one here KV04x8zcnLu-01218-00318152-00318439 uh let me just uh run it through for KV04x8zcnLu-01219-00318440-00318743 painting your nails violeta placencia mr KV04x8zcnLu-01220-00318744-00319047 bakken december 2011. KV04x8zcnLu-01221-00319048-00319415 first gather your nail painting KV04x8zcnLu-01222-00319416-00319782 products second decide which color you KV04x8zcnLu-01223-00319783-00320039 want to use KV04x8zcnLu-01224-00320040-00320351 third put the polish remover on KV04x8zcnLu-01225-00320352-00320663 all cotton ball next KV04x8zcnLu-01226-00320664-00321182 remove the old paint of your nails KV04x8zcnLu-01227-00321183-00321495 then file the tips of your nail KV04x8zcnLu-01228-00321496-00321806 after that paint so in any case i'm not KV04x8zcnLu-01229-00321807-00321975 going to go through the whole KV04x8zcnLu-01230-00321976-00322223 the whole project but you can see it was KV04x8zcnLu-01231-00322224-00322295 quite KV04x8zcnLu-01232-00322296-00322710 extensive and a lot of speaking practice KV04x8zcnLu-01233-00322711-00323158 to do this project and so KV04x8zcnLu-01234-00323159-00323479 i had really some incredible KV04x8zcnLu-01235-00323480-00323782 projects turned in uh to do this 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KV04x8zcnLu-01252-00328496-00328887 uh very basic word but also they move KV04x8zcnLu-01253-00328888-00329087 into powerpoint KV04x8zcnLu-01254-00329088-00329423 or docs and slides KV04x8zcnLu-01255-00329424-00329703 so if you recall at the beginning i said KV04x8zcnLu-01256-00329704-00329734 that KV04x8zcnLu-01257-00329735-00329943 participants will be able to demonstrate KV04x8zcnLu-01258-00329944-00330047 to their KV04x8zcnLu-01259-00330048-00330351 esl ab and academic students several KV04x8zcnLu-01260-00330352-00330591 separate projects using microsoft word KV04x8zcnLu-01261-00330592-00330710 and powerpoint KV04x8zcnLu-01262-00330711-00330839 so their students can practice KV04x8zcnLu-01263-00330840-00331047 vocabulary grammar or demonstrate KV04x8zcnLu-01264-00331048-00331247 mastery of content KV04x8zcnLu-01265-00331248-00331882 so that brings me to the end of today's KV04x8zcnLu-01266-00331883-00332527 presentation KV04x8zcnLu-01267-00332528-00332735 you KYd1sjdYPfo-00000-00000202-00000841 with classes that have subclasses and so KYd1sjdYPfo-00001-00000842-00001720 with polymorphic variables the is the KYd1sjdYPfo-00002-00001721-00002240 static type of the variable which is the KYd1sjdYPfo-00003-00002241-00002537 greatest type of that variable and the KYd1sjdYPfo-00004-00002538-00002822 dynamic type which is the type of the KYd1sjdYPfo-00005-00002823-00003372 object currently stored in that variable KYd1sjdYPfo-00006-00003373-00004070 when the compiler check users type KYd1sjdYPfo-00007-00004071-00004609 checking it looks at the stack type KYd1sjdYPfo-00008-00004610-00005500 whilst runtime method buca look at the KYd1sjdYPfo-00009-00005501-00006377 dynamic type this enables to have more KYd1sjdYPfo-00010-00006378-00006820 flexible structures with overriding KYd1sjdYPfo-00011-00006820-00008056 whenever a super type variable is used KYd1sjdYPfo-00012-00008058-00009187 to make a method call the specific KYd1sjdYPfo-00013-00009188-00010208 method of that particular subtype that KYd1sjdYPfo-00014-00010209-00010710 is stored in that variable will be KYd1sjdYPfo-00015-00010711-00011381 executed so this ensures that a method KYd1sjdYPfo-00016-00011382-00012106 call from different classes can react KYd1sjdYPfo-00017-00012107-00012851 differently can react differently based KYd1sjdYPfo-00018-00012852-00013358 on contest party KYd1sjdYPfo-00019-00013359-00013830 the nation based on the dynamic type of KYd1sjdYPfo-00020-00013831-00014636 suit available so the superclass a KYd1sjdYPfo-00021-00014637-00015190 method can be used when arriving KYd1sjdYPfo-00022-00015191-00016128 connected by calling the super method KYd1sjdYPfo-00023-00016129-00016983 and filter methods can have a protected KYd1sjdYPfo-00024-00016984-00017734 access access modifier which enables to KYd1sjdYPfo-00025-00017735-00017911 [Music] KYd1sjdYPfo-00026-00017912-00018797 give access to subclasses forces filter KYd1sjdYPfo-00027-00018798-00019269 methods so 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KYd1sjdYPfo-00041-00028481-00028918 method that every object has which KYd1sjdYPfo-00042-00028919-00029242 returns a string representation of the KYd1sjdYPfo-00043-00029243-00029802 object and it's more useful when it's KYd1sjdYPfo-00044-00029802-00030843 when overriding is whenever the latest KYd1sjdYPfo-00045-00030844-00032852 overriding is if the modification of KYd1sjdYPfo-00046-00032853-00033462 method into super class which has to KYd1sjdYPfo-00047-00033463-00033777 sing head of the method of the super KYd1sjdYPfo-00048-00033778-00034180 class that has a different part and this KYd1sjdYPfo-00049-00034181-00035361 method will be preferentially cold when KYd1sjdYPfo-00050-00035362-00035924 when a call to this method is done KYd1sjdYPfo-00051-00035925-00037149 because of his metal polymorphism the KYd1sjdYPfo-00052-00037150-00037399 one that will be chosen will be to one KYd1sjdYPfo-00053-00037400-00037932 of the subclass first is in to exist so KYd1sjdYPfo-00054-00037933-00038577 into exercise Theresa is a question KYd1sjdYPfo-00055-00038578-00039489 about what get main method will be will KYd1sjdYPfo-00056-00039490-00039751 be KYd1sjdYPfo-00057-00039752-00040645 called when a printer is a subclass of KYd1sjdYPfo-00058-00040646-00041805 the class made device and a viable death KYd1sjdYPfo-00059-00041806-00042642 of type so of static type device is KYd1sjdYPfo-00060-00042643-00043371 assigned a dynamic type of printer Anton KYd1sjdYPfo-00061-00043372-00043732 get name is called to this variable KYd1sjdYPfo-00062-00043733-00044671 their tent a superclass at least not KYd1sjdYPfo-00063-00044672-00045114 have this method to name another KYd1sjdYPfo-00064-00045115-00045973 nickname in order to have a application KYd1sjdYPfo-00065-00045974-00046948 compile but when these metal is KYd1sjdYPfo-00066-00046949-00047544 overridden by the subclass then a KYd1sjdYPfo-00067-00047545-00048532 subclass method will be will be booked KYd1sjdYPfo-00068-00048533-00049870 then about the student Bible I mean KYd1sjdYPfo-00069-00049871-00050101 [Music] KYd1sjdYPfo-00070-00050102-00050648 students variable of type student to KYd1sjdYPfo-00071-00050649-00051469 which a two-string it's called when a no KYd1sjdYPfo-00072-00051470-00051907 to stream method is in this class what KYd1sjdYPfo-00073-00051908-00052402 will happen is that to the full the KYd1sjdYPfo-00074-00052403-00052763 default implementation of to string KYd1sjdYPfo-00075-00052764-00053730 will be returned so it's basically the KYd1sjdYPfo-00076-00053732-00054340 name of the class which is student and KYd1sjdYPfo-00077-00054341-00055549 the place in memory so a number but if KYd1sjdYPfo-00078-00055550-00056142 it is called if printer line is called KYd1sjdYPfo-00079-00056144-00056884 on his best passing this student KYd1sjdYPfo-00080-00056885-00057785 valuable desirable of the student to the KYd1sjdYPfo-00081-00057786-00058405 println method 10 the same thing will KYd1sjdYPfo-00082-00058407-00059069 happen because it's not a string is not KYd1sjdYPfo-00083-00059070-00059363 a variable of type string so println KYd1sjdYPfo-00084-00059364-00059708 will automatically call to string to it KYd1sjdYPfo-00085-00059709-00060116 so it is analogous to the previous KYd1sjdYPfo-00086-00060116-00060836 example and it was returned segment KYd1sjdYPfo-00087-00060837-00061417 where it will not return that will allow KYd1sjdYPfo-00088-00061419-00061838 I not remembering the original code to KYd1sjdYPfo-00089-00061839-00063016 sting returns the basically KYd1sjdYPfo-00090-00063017-00063585 no okay it doesn't treat turn so it's KYd1sjdYPfo-00091-00063586-00064057 just that tells this variable s KYd1sjdYPfo-00092-00064058-00064751 constraint which this name and pleasant KYd1sjdYPfo-00093-00064752-00065178 memories aside while with printer lamp KYd1sjdYPfo-00094-00065179-00065535 the difference will be just if same KYd1sjdYPfo-00095-00065536-00065853 information will be printed to the KYd1sjdYPfo-00096-00065854-00066936 output and then terrorist is a question KYd1sjdYPfo-00097-00066937-00067307 about what will happen when two string KYd1sjdYPfo-00098-00067308-00067854 is overridden in the class it will have KYd1sjdYPfo-00099-00067855-00068594 of course compile and when printer line KYd1sjdYPfo-00100-00068595-00069182 is called passing to permit passing st KYd1sjdYPfo-00101-00069183-00069868 as parameters attend a stream KYd1sjdYPfo-00102-00069869-00070199 presentation with the name of the KYd1sjdYPfo-00103-00070200-00070937 student will be given to her foot and KYd1sjdYPfo-00104-00070938-00071624 she's a multiple objects of type student KYd1sjdYPfo-00105-00071625-00072741 in in a list then all of these names KYd1sjdYPfo-00106-00072742-00073829 will be put into the output and for an KYd1sjdYPfo-00107-00073830-00075179 example of a viable acts with dynamic KYd1sjdYPfo-00108-00075180-00075998 type D and static type f it will be KYd1sjdYPfo-00109-00075999-00076158 assignment KYd1sjdYPfo-00110-00076159-00078596 a statement like s x equals P well so KYd1sjdYPfo-00111-00078597-00080159 yeah so it s x equals d nu d this is the KYd1sjdYPfo-00112-00080160-00080588 statement that will make the variable X KYd1sjdYPfo-00113-00080589-00081417 add static type s and dynamic IP Kar8tLnnnkA-00000-00000041-00001057 [Music] Kar8tLnnnkA-00001-00001058-00001510 thank you Kar8tLnnnkA-00002-00001511-00002487 [Music] KcGXOH6W46c-00000-00000003-00000626 hey guys I'm LP and I love to say lazy KcGXOH6W46c-00001-00000627-00000827 valve yes KcGXOH6W46c-00002-00000827-00001058 slain tusk has made a map after one of KcGXOH6W46c-00003-00001059-00001203 my favorite phrases KcGXOH6W46c-00004-00001204-00001487 welcome to Aperture Science astronauts KcGXOH6W46c-00005-00001488-00001682 war hero with Olympians you are here KcGXOH6W46c-00006-00001682-00001859 because we want the best and you are it KcGXOH6W46c-00007-00001860-00002048 so if you are hearing this it means that KcGXOH6W46c-00008-00002049-00002201 the engineers were lazy with the valves KcGXOH6W46c-00009-00002202-00002348 in the pipe for their building this test KcGXOH6W46c-00010-00002349-00002531 so there may be some dripping water in a KcGXOH6W46c-00011-00002532-00002696 corner somewhere probably best to ignore KcGXOH6W46c-00012-00002697-00002873 it but to keep gets covered in gel grab KcGXOH6W46c-00013-00002874-00003038 a new one we have too many of the things KcGXOH6W46c-00014-00003039-00003182 they're taking up space we could use to KcGXOH6W46c-00015-00003183-00003518 build more tests all right let's get KcGXOH6W46c-00016-00003519-00003926 started then I suppose wonder does this KcGXOH6W46c-00017-00003927-00003986 work KcGXOH6W46c-00018-00003986-00004440 oh it does work cool KcGXOH6W46c-00019-00004441-00004663 I've never used it on this theme or KcGXOH6W46c-00020-00004664-00004840 maybe I have let's get started KcGXOH6W46c-00021-00004841-00004993 this first test involves something the KcGXOH6W46c-00022-00004994-00005224 lab boys call repulsion gel you're not KcGXOH6W46c-00023-00005225-00005428 part of the control group by the way you KcGXOH6W46c-00024-00005429-00005638 get the gel last poor son of a gun got KcGXOH6W46c-00025-00005639-00006006 blue paint all joking aside that did KcGXOH6W46c-00026-00006007-00006178 happen broke every bone in his legs KcGXOH6W46c-00027-00006179-00006492 tragic fun informative for Dora KcGXOH6W46c-00028-00006493-00006703 what's wrong with the outlines there are KcGXOH6W46c-00029-00006704-00006945 they broken I didn't even know an lines KcGXOH6W46c-00030-00006947-00008010 were broken in the old style ha I get KcGXOH6W46c-00031-00008011-00008374 the sum repulsion gel as Cave Johnson so KcGXOH6W46c-00032-00008375-00009030 kindly informed us KcGXOH6W46c-00033-00009031-00009697 hmm yes I do believe that is a KcGXOH6W46c-00034-00009698-00011272 three-block high area KcGXOH6W46c-00035-00011273-00011902 I guess that'll work right let's find KcGXOH6W46c-00036-00011903-00012640 out one two three that's how many licks KcGXOH6W46c-00037-00012641-00012739 it takes to get to the center of a KcGXOH6W46c-00038-00012740-00013435 Tootsie Pop well that turns out the fizz KcGXOH6W46c-00039-00013436-00014201 lero KcGXOH6W46c-00040-00014202-00016006 really now hey I did it KcGXOH6W46c-00041-00016007-00016382 what is this well that's the time KcGXOH6W46c-00042-00016383-00016658 percentage okay I don't think I've seen KcGXOH6W46c-00043-00016659-00016913 the old self-timer sinus before how do I KcGXOH6W46c-00044-00016914-00017075 get out of this area KcGXOH6W46c-00045-00017076-00017447 Oh any gel in here apparently okay I'll KcGXOH6W46c-00046-00017448-00017555 leave this cube here for safekeeping KcGXOH6W46c-00047-00017556-00018100 then what would be best way to do that KcGXOH6W46c-00048-00018101-00019033 maybe was this perhaps KcGXOH6W46c-00049-00019034-00019702 oh no I got my cue my poor cube that's KcGXOH6W46c-00050-00019703-00019828 okay I can probably get into the one KcGXOH6W46c-00051-00019829-00020365 quite easily let's see here I think we KcGXOH6W46c-00052-00020366-00020530 can do this yeah this is a much easier KcGXOH6W46c-00053-00020531-00021589 to jump for me yeah no wonder there's KcGXOH6W46c-00054-00021590-00022114 our cube good old QB right actually only KcGXOH6W46c-00055-00022115-00022428 leave it here and I want to bounce do KcGXOH6W46c-00056-00022429-00023008 that there we go and give me this and KcGXOH6W46c-00057-00023009-00023343 now we can escape with the cube KcGXOH6W46c-00058-00023344-00024010 check out this escapism ha ha ha ha that KcGXOH6W46c-00059-00024011-00024124 should be a way to get a secret KcGXOH6W46c-00060-00024125-00024403 companion cube if you ask me that's like KcGXOH6W46c-00061-00024404-00024868 perfect spot to hide it right now that KcGXOH6W46c-00062-00024869-00024985 we've done that what is this a key KcGXOH6W46c-00063-00024986-00025472 connected to oh right down here then KcGXOH6W46c-00064-00025473-00025705 there's no fizzle err I'm going to need KcGXOH6W46c-00065-00025706-00026244 to bring this along for the ride KcGXOH6W46c-00066-00026245-00026814 I would estimate there is a 97% chance KcGXOH6W46c-00067-00026814-00029195 of the answer being yes KcGXOH6W46c-00068-00029195-00030443 all right we've done that now what we KcGXOH6W46c-00069-00030444-00030705 said about load of fun KcGXOH6W46c-00070-00030706-00031193 I just do KcGXOH6W46c-00071-00031194-00031731 excuse me I do believe that your beam on KcGXOH6W46c-00072-00031732-00032423 did not compile properly KcGXOH6W46c-00073-00032424-00032739 [Music] KcGXOH6W46c-00074-00032740-00033060 what you think I need that I think KcGXOH6W46c-00075-00033061-00033435 that's how this works no no no sir you KcGXOH6W46c-00076-00033436-00034416 are mistaken let me just show you with KcGXOH6W46c-00077-00034417-00034716 my amazing skill here I can bounce over KcGXOH6W46c-00078-00034717-00034942 the silver correctly this time KcGXOH6W46c-00079-00034943-00035621 there we go let's see here we want there KcGXOH6W46c-00080-00035622-00036211 we're gonna stay shell okay come on let KcGXOH6W46c-00081-00036212-00036396 me read your leave all the way back up KcGXOH6W46c-00082-00036397-00037240 here lock a portal there save and KcGXOH6W46c-00083-00037241-00037637 continue KcGXOH6W46c-00084-00037638-00038134 aha see yes as exactly as the prophet KcGXOH6W46c-00085-00038135-00038777 foretold KcGXOH6W46c-00086-00038778-00039098 excellent excellent KcGXOH6W46c-00087-00039099-00040135 egg salad KcGXOH6W46c-00088-00040136-00041003 up and over Dada you don't need no KcGXOH6W46c-00089-00041004-00041348 stinkin tractor lift actually didn't KcGXOH6W46c-00090-00041349-00041474 didn't mean to fall off there but yeah KcGXOH6W46c-00091-00041475-00041642 we're up here don't need no stinkin KcGXOH6W46c-00092-00041643-00041782 traffic your lift and I fell off again KcGXOH6W46c-00093-00041783-00042026 because apparently I cannot walk off a KcGXOH6W46c-00094-00042027-00042317 ledge carefully for the life of me yeah KcGXOH6W46c-00095-00042318-00042512 you don't need no stinkin tractor lifter KcGXOH6W46c-00096-00042513-00042743 button to activate it I can do that all KcGXOH6W46c-00097-00042744-00042938 on my own with the gel because this is a KcGXOH6W46c-00098-00042939-00043931 propulsion gel puzzled hmm yes I do KcGXOH6W46c-00099-00043932-00044335 believe I see exactly what I need to do KcGXOH6W46c-00100-00044336-00044542 [Music] KcGXOH6W46c-00101-00044543-00044960 quite simple really all the way back KcGXOH6W46c-00102-00044961-00045848 here all the way back here all the way KcGXOH6W46c-00103-00045849-00046640 up here all the way down here oh let's KcGXOH6W46c-00104-00046641-00046838 actually get the cube though that's kind KcGXOH6W46c-00105-00046839-00047048 of important in its essential aspect of KcGXOH6W46c-00106-00047049-00047402 my plan you know siphons bombs are KcGXOH6W46c-00107-00047403-00047810 throwing at you oh my gosh get me KcGXOH6W46c-00108-00047811-00048015 through this portal please thank you KcGXOH6W46c-00109-00048016-00048425 there we go what next what's the rest of KcGXOH6W46c-00110-00048426-00048662 the puzzle going to be the level is just KcGXOH6W46c-00111-00048663-00048818 informed me that I should not have KcGXOH6W46c-00112-00048819-00049001 mentioned the control group they're KcGXOH6W46c-00113-00049002-00049139 telling me I ought to stop making these KcGXOH6W46c-00114-00049140-00049364 pre-recorded messages all right well KcGXOH6W46c-00115-00049365-00049556 guys as always thank you so much for KcGXOH6W46c-00116-00049557-00049709 watching I really appreciate now see you KcGXOH6W46c-00117-00049710-00050033 all another video goodbye KcWiVPgIV6Y-00000-00000050-00000678 [Music] KcWiVPgIV6Y-00001-00000679-00001000 oh Kitty Club everybody had a triple KcWiVPgIV6Y-00002-00001001-00001254 white 32 tonight KcWiVPgIV6Y-00003-00001255-00002859 [Music] KcWiVPgIV6Y-00005-00006476-00008020 [Music] KcWiVPgIV6Y-00006-00008022-00009646 remember KcWiVPgIV6Y-00007-00009647-00012442 tomorrow KcWiVPgIV6Y-00008-00012443-00012982 foreign KcWiVPgIV6Y-00009-00012983-00013949 [Music] KgEMiK_UmlQ-00000-00000014-00000337 the Center for Biological Diversity KgEMiK_UmlQ-00001-00000338-00000671 Center based in Tucson Arizona is a KgEMiK_UmlQ-00002-00000672-00000961 non-profit membership organization with KgEMiK_UmlQ-00003-00000963-00001235 approximately 1.1 million members and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00004-00001236-00001504 online activists known for its work KgEMiK_UmlQ-00005-00001505-00001759 protecting endangered species through KgEMiK_UmlQ-00006-00001760-00002023 legal action scientific petitions KgEMiK_UmlQ-00007-00002025-00002334 creative media and grassroots activism KgEMiK_UmlQ-00008-00002335-00002743 it was founded in 1989 by Kieren KgEMiK_UmlQ-00009-00002744-00003034 suckling Peter Galvin Todd shulk and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00010-00003035-00003397 Robin Silva the center has offices and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00011-00003398-00003725 staff in New Mexico Arizona Nevada KgEMiK_UmlQ-00012-00003726-00004099 California Oregon Illinois Minnesota KgEMiK_UmlQ-00013-00004100-00005027 Alaska Vermont Florida and Washington DC KgEMiK_UmlQ-00014-00005028-00005589 topic background KgEMiK_UmlQ-00015-00005590-00005925 given a small grant by the fund for wild KgEMiK_UmlQ-00016-00005926-00006279 nature the organization started in 1989 KgEMiK_UmlQ-00017-00006280-00006548 as a small group by the name of Greater KgEMiK_UmlQ-00018-00006550-00006831 HeLa biodiversity project with the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00019-00006831-00007073 objective to protect endangered species KgEMiK_UmlQ-00020-00007075-00007376 and critical habitat in the southwest KgEMiK_UmlQ-00021-00007377-00007737 the organization later grew and became KgEMiK_UmlQ-00022-00007738-00008012 the Center for Biological Diversity KgEMiK_UmlQ-00023-00008013-00008358 Kieran suckling Peter Galvin and Todd KgEMiK_UmlQ-00024-00008359-00008610 shulk founded the organization in KgEMiK_UmlQ-00025-00008611-00008823 response to what they perceived as a KgEMiK_UmlQ-00026-00008824-00009084 failure on the part of the United States KgEMiK_UmlQ-00027-00009085-00009330 Forest Service to protect imperiled KgEMiK_UmlQ-00028-00009331-00009638 species from logging grazing and mining KgEMiK_UmlQ-00029-00009639-00010029 as surveyors in New Mexico the three men KgEMiK_UmlQ-00030-00010030-00010353 discovered a rare Mexican spotted owl KgEMiK_UmlQ-00031-00010354-00010695 nest in an old-growth tree but their KgEMiK_UmlQ-00032-00010696-00010959 discovery was overshadowed by Forest KgEMiK_UmlQ-00033-00010960-00011193 Service plans to lease the land to KgEMiK_UmlQ-00034-00011194-00011469 timber companies suckling Galvin and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00035-00011470-00011694 shulte believed that it was within the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00036-00011695-00011919 Forest Service's mission to save KgEMiK_UmlQ-00037-00011920-00012177 sensitive species like the Mexican KgEMiK_UmlQ-00038-00012178-00012390 spotted owl from harm and that the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00039-00012391-00012644 government had not performed its duty in KgEMiK_UmlQ-00040-00012645-00012863 deference to corporate interests KgEMiK_UmlQ-00041-00012864-00013152 suckling Galvin and shulk went to the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00042-00013153-00013394 media to register their outrage with KgEMiK_UmlQ-00043-00013395-00013647 success the old-growth tree was allowed KgEMiK_UmlQ-00044-00013647-00013908 to stand and this success led to the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00045-00013909-00014151 founding of the Center for Biological KgEMiK_UmlQ-00046-00014152-00014574 Diversity initially the center focused KgEMiK_UmlQ-00047-00014575-00014835 on issues specific to the southwestern KgEMiK_UmlQ-00048-00014836-00015102 United States but today its mission KgEMiK_UmlQ-00049-00015103-00015363 encompasses far-reaching problems such KgEMiK_UmlQ-00050-00015363-00015594 as global threats to biological KgEMiK_UmlQ-00051-00015594-00015957 diversity and climate change one of the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00052-00015958-00016227 centre's biggest recent victories was in KgEMiK_UmlQ-00053-00016228-00016512 2011 when it reached a historic legal KgEMiK_UmlQ-00054-00016513-00016739 settlement with the US Fish and Wildlife KgEMiK_UmlQ-00055-00016740-00017040 Service compelling the agency to make KgEMiK_UmlQ-00056-00017041-00017483 progress on protecting 757 imperiled but KgEMiK_UmlQ-00057-00017484-00017777 previously neglected animals and plants KgEMiK_UmlQ-00058-00017778-00018119 the center employs a group of paid and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00059-00018120-00018417 pro bono attorneys to use litigation to KgEMiK_UmlQ-00060-00018418-00018674 effect change and claims a 93 percent KgEMiK_UmlQ-00061-00018675-00018984 success rate for their lawsuits KgEMiK_UmlQ-00062-00018985-00019479 you KgEMiK_UmlQ-00063-00019480-00020002 topic press KgEMiK_UmlQ-00064-00020003-00020416 on the 13th of June 2007 the center KgEMiK_UmlQ-00065-00020417-00020665 spoke out against a Bush administration KgEMiK_UmlQ-00066-00020666-00020941 proposal to reduce the protected area KgEMiK_UmlQ-00067-00020942-00021199 for spotted owls in the United States KgEMiK_UmlQ-00068-00021200-00021541 Pacific Northwest according to NOAA KgEMiK_UmlQ-00069-00021542-00021814 Greenwald the group's representative in KgEMiK_UmlQ-00070-00021815-00022084 the Northwest that proposed habitat cut KgEMiK_UmlQ-00071-00022085-00022414 is typical of an administration that is KgEMiK_UmlQ-00072-00022415-00022693 looking to reduce protections for KgEMiK_UmlQ-00073-00022694-00023040 endangered species at every turn KgEMiK_UmlQ-00074-00023041-00023158 Greenwald KgEMiK_UmlQ-00075-00023159-00023386 said that the rollback is part of a KgEMiK_UmlQ-00076-00023387-00023797 series of sweetheart deals in which the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00077-00023798-00024069 administration settles an environmental KgEMiK_UmlQ-00078-00024070-00024328 lawsuit out of court and that the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00079-00024329-00024649 industries wishes reduces the critical KgEMiK_UmlQ-00080-00024650-00025000 habitat according to the center the move KgEMiK_UmlQ-00081-00025001-00025269 conforms to a broad trend that includes KgEMiK_UmlQ-00082-00025270-00025579 at least 25 earlier Bush administration KgEMiK_UmlQ-00083-00025580-00025858 decisions on habitat protections for KgEMiK_UmlQ-00084-00025858-00026245 endangered species in those cases the KgEMiK_UmlQ-00085-00026245-00026502 protected areas were reduced an average KgEMiK_UmlQ-00086-00026504-00026862 of 36 percent on the 16th of December KgEMiK_UmlQ-00087-00026863-00027202 2008 the center announced intent to sue KgEMiK_UmlQ-00088-00027202-00027396 the United States government for KgEMiK_UmlQ-00089-00027397-00027867 introducing regulations KgEMiK_UmlQ-00090-00027868-00028113 that would eviscerate our nation's most KgEMiK_UmlQ-00091-00028114-00028422 successful wildlife law by exempting KgEMiK_UmlQ-00092-00028423-00028673 thousands of federal activities KgEMiK_UmlQ-00093-00028674-00028965 including those that generate greenhouse KgEMiK_UmlQ-00094-00028966-00029283 gases from review under the Endangered KgEMiK_UmlQ-00095-00029284-00029661 Species Act the lawsuit which is KgEMiK_UmlQ-00096-00029662-00029904 critical of US Interior Department KgEMiK_UmlQ-00097-00029905-00030160 secretary Dirk Kempthorne and president KgEMiK_UmlQ-00098-00030161-00030429 george w bush was filed in the Northern KgEMiK_UmlQ-00099-00030430-00030717 District of California by the center KgEMiK_UmlQ-00100-00030718-00031035 Greenpeace and defenders of wildlife KgEMiK_UmlQ-00101-00031036-00031236 according to the Center KgEMiK_UmlQ-00102-00031237-00031488 the lawsuit argues that the regulations KgEMiK_UmlQ-00103-00031489-00031770 violate the Endangered Species Act and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00104-00031771-00031977 did not go through the required public KgEMiK_UmlQ-00105-00031978-00032370 review process the regulations first KgEMiK_UmlQ-00106-00032371-00032664 proposed on August 11th were rushed by KgEMiK_UmlQ-00107-00032665-00032868 the Bush administration through an KgEMiK_UmlQ-00108-00032869-00033152 abbreviated process in which more than KgEMiK_UmlQ-00109-00033153-00033423 300,000 comments from the public were KgEMiK_UmlQ-00110-00033424-00033638 reviewed in two to three weeks and KgEMiK_UmlQ-00111-00033639-00033927 environmental impacts were analyzed in a KgEMiK_UmlQ-00112-00033928-00034140 short and cursory environmental KgEMiK_UmlQ-00113-00034141-00034329 assessment rather than a fuller KgEMiK_UmlQ-00114-00034330-00035078 environmental impact statement KgEMiK_UmlQ-00115-00035079-00035449 topic rubber dodo Award for anti KgEMiK_UmlQ-00116-00035450-00035965 environmental record KgEMiK_UmlQ-00117-00035966-00036383 almost every year since 2007 the Center KgEMiK_UmlQ-00118-00036384-00036667 for Biological Diversity has given an KgEMiK_UmlQ-00119-00036668-00036973 award to those who have done the most to 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Ki-uSo178zo-00022-00004744-00005047 print media they can help you not Ki-uSo178zo-00023-00005048-00005222 necessarily they will also help you for Ki-uSo178zo-00024-00005223-00005359 wordpress but they can help you with Ki-uSo178zo-00025-00005360-00005422 joomla Ki-uSo178zo-00026-00005423-00005759 and shopify and also if you need some Ki-uSo178zo-00027-00005760-00006079 mock-ups these envato elements Ki-uSo178zo-00028-00006080-00006422 will help you to create different types Ki-uSo178zo-00029-00006423-00006527 of Ki-uSo178zo-00030-00006528-00006814 projects so that's one of the big and Ki-uSo178zo-00031-00006815-00007023 main advantages of mb2 elements that i Ki-uSo178zo-00032-00007023-00007239 have seen and that i have used and then Ki-uSo178zo-00033-00007240-00007423 and that i'm still using in my two Ki-uSo178zo-00034-00007423-00007542 elements the other Ki-uSo178zo-00035-00007543-00007710 good thing that i have seen and i'm Ki-uSo178zo-00036-00007711-00007863 still watching from 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Ki-uSo178zo-00052-00011400-00011831 addition for disney uh for this software Ki-uSo178zo-00053-00011832-00012078 i'm not considered myself a video expert Ki-uSo178zo-00054-00012079-00012135 i'm Ki-uSo178zo-00055-00012136-00012438 more of a intermediate video creator i Ki-uSo178zo-00056-00012439-00012583 would say Ki-uSo178zo-00057-00012584-00012846 but if you're more of a davinci and i Ki-uSo178zo-00058-00012847-00012910 think that's Ki-uSo178zo-00059-00012911-00013119 one of also one of the best ones video Ki-uSo178zo-00060-00013119-00013238 creators Ki-uSo178zo-00061-00013240-00013511 then now with embattled elements you Ki-uSo178zo-00062-00013512-00013766 have this opportunity to create Ki-uSo178zo-00063-00013768-00014094 with those templates also they Ki-uSo178zo-00064-00014095-00014351 they already have more image stock uh Ki-uSo178zo-00065-00014352-00014511 they already have some other platforms Ki-uSo178zo-00066-00014512-00014583 that Ki-uSo178zo-00067-00014584-00014903 where you can add uh where you can grab Ki-uSo178zo-00068-00014904-00015022 some more images Ki-uSo178zo-00069-00015023-00015366 uh for your any other type of projects Ki-uSo178zo-00070-00015368-00015558 so that is one of the good things with Ki-uSo178zo-00071-00015559-00015719 embattled elements that you don't really Ki-uSo178zo-00072-00015719-00015830 have to worry Ki-uSo178zo-00073-00015831-00016055 about the license as long as you are Ki-uSo178zo-00074-00016056-00016143 subscribed Ki-uSo178zo-00075-00016144-00016327 so that's a really important thing to Ki-uSo178zo-00076-00016328-00016535 consider so Ki-uSo178zo-00077-00016536-00016847 i really recommend this part of the Ki-uSo178zo-00078-00016848-00017143 of embattled because it has like theory Ki-uSo178zo-00079-00017144-00017191 these Ki-uSo178zo-00080-00017192-00017447 really big advantages and also they have Ki-uSo178zo-00081-00017448-00017567 like the plugin Ki-uSo178zo-00082-00017568-00017886 uh with for wordpress for the and you Ki-uSo178zo-00083-00017887-00017958 can easily Ki-uSo178zo-00084-00017959-00018255 add some uh templates for elementor Ki-uSo178zo-00085-00018256-00018391 that's another uh Ki-uSo178zo-00086-00018392-00018663 plugin that i actually also recommend Ki-uSo178zo-00087-00018664-00018719 for Ki-uSo178zo-00088-00018720-00018911 simple websites or for more even for Ki-uSo178zo-00089-00018912-00019143 more structured websites Ki-uSo178zo-00090-00019144-00019319 so this combination between embattled Ki-uSo178zo-00091-00019320-00019575 elements and elementor makes really easy Ki-uSo178zo-00092-00019576-00019894 the creation of websites so if if you're Ki-uSo178zo-00093-00019895-00020007 a web developer Ki-uSo178zo-00094-00020008-00020279 you must have in consideration the use Ki-uSo178zo-00095-00020280-00020327 of Ki-uSo178zo-00096-00020328-00020527 embattled elements because they have Ki-uSo178zo-00097-00020528-00020630 this ease Ki-uSo178zo-00098-00020631-00020943 of use in combination between Ki-uSo178zo-00099-00020944-00021119 embattled elements and elementor for Ki-uSo178zo-00100-00021120-00021255 wordpress Ki-uSo178zo-00101-00021256-00021550 and it's and you can just grab the image Ki-uSo178zo-00102-00021551-00021630 directly Ki-uSo178zo-00103-00021631-00021791 from embattled elements through the Ki-uSo178zo-00104-00021792-00021958 plugin and you just can Ki-uSo178zo-00105-00021959-00022255 create a website for your needs or you Ki-uSo178zo-00106-00022256-00022483 don't have to waste too much time on the Ki-uSo178zo-00107-00022484-00022622 creation Ki-uSo178zo-00108-00022623-00022871 and also as long as as i mentioned as Ki-uSo178zo-00109-00022872-00022991 long as you subscribe Ki-uSo178zo-00110-00022992-00023239 if you are planning or creating a Ki-uSo178zo-00111-00023240-00023342 commercial Ki-uSo178zo-00112-00023343-00023550 projects you don't really have to worry Ki-uSo178zo-00113-00023551-00023678 about that much Ki-uSo178zo-00114-00023679-00023911 about the licensing part as long as Ki-uSo178zo-00115-00023912-00024030 you're subscribed Ki-uSo178zo-00116-00024031-00024319 and i repeated this because now i'm Ki-uSo178zo-00117-00024320-00024391 going to the Ki-uSo178zo-00118-00024392-00024822 disadvantages of embattled elements and Ki-uSo178zo-00119-00024823-00025063 the part of the licensing is one of the Ki-uSo178zo-00120-00025064-00025294 main pain points that i have read or Ki-uSo178zo-00121-00025295-00025350 have Ki-uSo178zo-00122-00025351-00025702 received some comments because uh Ki-uSo178zo-00123-00025704-00025846 if you're not subscribed with the Ki-uSo178zo-00124-00025847-00026014 malware elements or Ki-uSo178zo-00125-00026016-00026318 or if you can sell any new project Ki-uSo178zo-00126-00026319-00026535 even if you have the downloaded the file Ki-uSo178zo-00127-00026536-00026646 and created your Ki-uSo178zo-00128-00026647-00026846 end project but you still have the Ki-uSo178zo-00129-00026847-00027014 downloaded file Ki-uSo178zo-00130-00027016-00027358 that downloaded file you cannot use it Ki-uSo178zo-00131-00027360-00027662 for another new project and Ki-uSo178zo-00132-00027663-00027839 here is where the confusion starts and Ki-uSo178zo-00133-00027839-00028143 i'm still trying to make it more clear Ki-uSo178zo-00134-00028144-00028414 what embattled element states or what i Ki-uSo178zo-00135-00028416-00028479 assign Ki-uSo178zo-00136-00028480-00028855 as i get how embark tolement states Ki-uSo178zo-00137-00028856-00029111 that downloaded file if you want to Ki-uSo178zo-00138-00029112-00029207 reuse it Ki-uSo178zo-00139-00029208-00029431 you must be subscribed and add the Ki-uSo178zo-00140-00029432-00029567 license Ki-uSo178zo-00141-00029568-00029743 but if you downloaded the file and you Ki-uSo178zo-00142-00029744-00029895 want to reuse it for Ki-uSo178zo-00143-00029895-00030174 10 number of files okay you might not Ki-uSo178zo-00144-00030175-00030246 have Ki-uSo178zo-00145-00030247-00030407 the license or you won't have the Ki-uSo178zo-00146-00030408-00030574 license for those new Ki-uSo178zo-00147-00030575-00030943 projects so if there's the case that the Ki-uSo178zo-00148-00030944-00031318 owner or author of that um file Ki-uSo178zo-00149-00031319-00031862 sees your okay what which are the um Ki-uSo178zo-00150-00031863-00032087 the odds of someone finding your file or Ki-uSo178zo-00151-00032088-00032207 something but Ki-uSo178zo-00152-00032208-00032431 that's why they stayed like on their Ki-uSo178zo-00153-00032432-00032518 video like Ki-uSo178zo-00154-00032519-00032831 we're aiming to do the right thing and Ki-uSo178zo-00155-00032832-00033143 yeah there is not really a high-end Ki-uSo178zo-00156-00033144-00033431 uh control but doing the right thing is Ki-uSo178zo-00157-00033432-00033574 having the license Ki-uSo178zo-00158-00033575-00033862 the license so what options do you have Ki-uSo178zo-00159-00033863-00034483 like for the people who just want to Ki-uSo178zo-00160-00034484-00034743 download elements alternatives i already Ki-uSo178zo-00161-00034744-00034807 talked Ki-uSo178zo-00162-00034808-00035023 that there is already monster one Ki-uSo178zo-00163-00035024-00035199 storyblocks or even adobe stock Ki-uSo178zo-00164-00035200-00035399 or or shooter stock for those kinds of Ki-uSo178zo-00165-00035400-00035567 projects Ki-uSo178zo-00166-00035568-00035862 so keep in consideration that parts or Ki-uSo178zo-00167-00035863-00035911 that Ki-uSo178zo-00168-00035912-00036143 negative i don't see that much negative Ki-uSo178zo-00169-00036144-00036383 but another disadvantage that i have Ki-uSo178zo-00170-00036384-00036471 read Ki-uSo178zo-00171-00036472-00036823 not personally experiences that is that Ki-uSo178zo-00172-00036824-00037023 embattled elements does not give a Ki-uSo178zo-00173-00037024-00037127 refund Ki-uSo178zo-00174-00037128-00037383 so tech take that into consideration Ki-uSo178zo-00175-00037384-00037623 before buying 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Ki-uSo178zo-00206-00043775-00044158 some are pre-registered and Ki-uSo178zo-00207-00044159-00044335 for in the case of youtube and for Ki-uSo178zo-00208-00044336-00044462 youtube creators if you Ki-uSo178zo-00209-00044463-00044687 need some music that it's in embattled Ki-uSo178zo-00210-00044688-00044807 elements Ki-uSo178zo-00211-00044808-00045023 you might have yes the license of using Ki-uSo178zo-00212-00045024-00045158 the music but then you Ki-uSo178zo-00213-00045159-00045446 have to send a copyright or be aware of Ki-uSo178zo-00214-00045447-00045655 the copyright Ki-uSo178zo-00215-00045656-00045958 but to avoid any type of Ki-uSo178zo-00216-00045959-00046239 certain of copyright things i tend to Ki-uSo178zo-00217-00046240-00046335 use Ki-uSo178zo-00218-00046336-00046583 the music that it states that it's not Ki-uSo178zo-00219-00046584-00046799 pre-registered with youtube or with this Ki-uSo178zo-00220-00046800-00047118 other organization Ki-uSo178zo-00221-00047119-00047351 so 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per year like Ki-uSo178zo-00253-00053424-00053526 for lifetime Ki-uSo178zo-00254-00053527-00053679 you have the access for wordpress Ki-uSo178zo-00255-00053679-00053863 templates and images Ki-uSo178zo-00256-00053864-00054175 and many other digital assets files Ki-uSo178zo-00257-00054176-00054375 or even also with storyblocks when you Ki-uSo178zo-00258-00054376-00054559 can also just download and Ki-uSo178zo-00259-00054560-00054830 you can keep forever the the file as i Ki-uSo178zo-00260-00054832-00054935 as they state Ki-uSo178zo-00261-00054936-00055254 and as i have understood uh so Ki-uSo178zo-00262-00055255-00055454 yes there are other options for Ki-uSo178zo-00263-00055455-00055566 embattled elements but Ki-uSo178zo-00264-00055567-00055759 also in battle elements it's a really Ki-uSo178zo-00265-00055760-00055894 good option Ki-uSo178zo-00266-00055895-00056199 and a thing and a platform to consider Ki-uSo178zo-00267-00056200-00056526 so i hope that this video adds more 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move on so measure mix KjSpFxErgfA-00029-00005239-00005543 pour torch cover get er done move out of KjSpFxErgfA-00030-00005544-00005599 there KjSpFxErgfA-00031-00005600-00005984 and work smarter not harder L0vNa0AVysA-00000-00001309-00001947 thank you L0vNa0AVysA-00001-00001948-00002922 [Music] L0vNa0AVysA-00002-00002923-00003704 [Music] L0vNa0AVysA-00003-00003704-00003917 [Music] L0vNa0AVysA-00004-00003918-00004164 foreign L0vNa0AVysA-00005-00004165-00004482 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00000-00000000-00000173 Maharaja please accept my humble L2R9zPQIAdk-00001-00000174-00000371 obedience is all glorious to srila L2R9zPQIAdk-00002-00000372-00000628 prabhupada then your Lotus feet Maharaj L2R9zPQIAdk-00003-00000629-00000827 today we will go ahead and we will study L2R9zPQIAdk-00004-00000827-00001139 from Canter 5 chapter 26 verse number L2R9zPQIAdk-00005-00001140-00001391 21. whenever you're ready Maharaja you L2R9zPQIAdk-00006-00001392-00001591 can take the call over L2R9zPQIAdk-00007-00001592-00003577 Krishna the basis to all the devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-00008-00003578-00003906 let's see L2R9zPQIAdk-00009-00003907-00004222 what is the this chapter is entitled L2R9zPQIAdk-00010-00004223-00004817 hellish planets right L2R9zPQIAdk-00011-00004818-00005518 I think they're smart yes Maharaj okay L2R9zPQIAdk-00012-00005519-00006575 okay so uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00013-00006576-00006946 um L2R9zPQIAdk-00014-00006947-00008908 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-00015-00008909-00009485 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00016-00009486-00009989 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-00017-00009990-00010209 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-00018-00010210-00011166 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00019-00011167-00012485 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00020-00012486-00012815 what we do in classes is that we do the L2R9zPQIAdk-00021-00012816-00013271 synonyms when there's only prose but L2R9zPQIAdk-00022-00013272-00013619 that requires response from L2R9zPQIAdk-00023-00013619-00013901 the listening audience L2R9zPQIAdk-00024-00013902-00014129 so I don't know if we can do that why L2R9zPQIAdk-00025-00014130-00014359 not L2R9zPQIAdk-00026-00014360-00014579 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00027-00014580-00014861 but if we can't do the synonyms in the L2R9zPQIAdk-00028-00014862-00015071 responsive way I can just read the L2R9zPQIAdk-00029-00015072-00015280 synonyms synonyms L2R9zPQIAdk-00030-00015281-00015497 and you can go from there L2R9zPQIAdk-00031-00015497-00015683 yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00032-00015684-00016099 anyone who to but L2R9zPQIAdk-00033-00016100-00016415 in this life L2R9zPQIAdk-00034-00016416-00016639 why indeed L2R9zPQIAdk-00035-00016640-00016836 Sovereign L2R9zPQIAdk-00036-00016837-00017225 sex life indiscriminately with both men L2R9zPQIAdk-00037-00017226-00017386 and animals L2R9zPQIAdk-00038-00017387-00017615 come him L2R9zPQIAdk-00039-00017616-00017807 amutra L2R9zPQIAdk-00040-00017808-00017941 in the next life L2R9zPQIAdk-00041-00017942-00018157 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00042-00018158-00018407 in the hell L2R9zPQIAdk-00043-00018408-00018956 existing L2R9zPQIAdk-00044-00018957-00019114 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00045-00019115-00019486 a silk cotton tree with thorns like L2R9zPQIAdk-00046-00019487-00019661 Thunderbolts L2R9zPQIAdk-00047-00019662-00020047 and look here mounting him on L2R9zPQIAdk-00048-00020048-00020272 niskar Santi L2R9zPQIAdk-00049-00020273-00020567 they pull him out L2R9zPQIAdk-00050-00020568-00020722 translation L2R9zPQIAdk-00051-00020723-00020994 a person who indulges in sex L2R9zPQIAdk-00052-00020995-00021299 indiscriminately even with animals was L2R9zPQIAdk-00053-00021300-00021964 taken after death to the hell known as L2R9zPQIAdk-00054-00021965-00022235 in this hell there is a silk cotton L2R9zPQIAdk-00055-00022236-00022444 trade full of thorns as strong as L2R9zPQIAdk-00056-00022445-00022636 Thunderbolts L2R9zPQIAdk-00057-00022637-00023027 the Agents of yamaraj hang the sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-00058-00023028-00023285 man on the tree and pulled him down L2R9zPQIAdk-00059-00023286-00023603 forcefully so that the Thorns very L2R9zPQIAdk-00060-00023604-00023980 severely tear his body L2R9zPQIAdk-00061-00023981-00024221 her part L2R9zPQIAdk-00062-00024222-00024514 the sexual urge is so strong that L2R9zPQIAdk-00063-00024515-00024743 sometimes a man indulges in sexual L2R9zPQIAdk-00064-00024744-00025013 relationships with a cow L2R9zPQIAdk-00065-00025014-00025228 or a woman and donors in sexual L2R9zPQIAdk-00066-00025229-00025463 relationships with a dog L2R9zPQIAdk-00067-00025464-00025733 such men and women are put into the hell L2R9zPQIAdk-00068-00025733-00026200 known as Raja kantika Salman L2R9zPQIAdk-00069-00026201-00026411 the Krishna Consciousness movement L2R9zPQIAdk-00070-00026412-00026699 forbids illicit sex L2R9zPQIAdk-00071-00026700-00026914 in the description of this verse it's L2R9zPQIAdk-00072-00026916-00027149 from these verses we can understand what L2R9zPQIAdk-00073-00027150-00027589 an extremely sinful act illicit sex is L2R9zPQIAdk-00074-00027589-00027839 sometimes people disbelieve these L2R9zPQIAdk-00075-00027839-00028114 descriptions to tell whether one L2R9zPQIAdk-00076-00028116-00028408 disbelieves or not everything must be L2R9zPQIAdk-00077-00028410-00028655 carried out by the laws of nature L2R9zPQIAdk-00078-00028656-00029061 which no one can avoid L2R9zPQIAdk-00079-00029062-00029507 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00080-00029508-00030017 so there are 28 different Hells L2R9zPQIAdk-00081-00030018-00030274 and here this one here you can keep the L2R9zPQIAdk-00082-00030275-00031145 verse up for a few minutes here L2R9zPQIAdk-00083-00031145-00031529 this one is called L2R9zPQIAdk-00084-00031530-00031858 some Willie L2R9zPQIAdk-00085-00031860-00032117 not in this letter in this particular L2R9zPQIAdk-00086-00032118-00032608 hell the punishment is described L2R9zPQIAdk-00087-00032610-00033095 so uh people I do not know that L2R9zPQIAdk-00088-00033096-00033515 they're responsible for their activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00089-00033516-00033940 so everything is being judged by the L2R9zPQIAdk-00090-00033941-00034367 material energy which is krsna's energy L2R9zPQIAdk-00091-00034368-00034733 so one who follows the laws of God L2R9zPQIAdk-00092-00034734-00035057 who automatically follows the laws of L2R9zPQIAdk-00093-00035058-00035261 material nature L2R9zPQIAdk-00094-00035262-00035555 so laws must be followed rules must be L2R9zPQIAdk-00095-00035556-00035743 followed L2R9zPQIAdk-00096-00035744-00036035 just like if you remember a particular L2R9zPQIAdk-00097-00036036-00036179 state L2R9zPQIAdk-00098-00036180-00036623 or country or even Society we would Club L2R9zPQIAdk-00099-00036624-00036977 group there as a governing set of rules L2R9zPQIAdk-00100-00036978-00037337 and regulations on how things should go L2R9zPQIAdk-00101-00037338-00037493 on L2R9zPQIAdk-00102-00037494-00037787 and so if one follows that they're L2R9zPQIAdk-00103-00037788-00038062 considered to be okay L2R9zPQIAdk-00104-00038063-00038507 good citizen proper member of the group L2R9zPQIAdk-00105-00038508-00038879 and if they create their own laws or L2R9zPQIAdk-00106-00038880-00039118 walls and break L2R9zPQIAdk-00107-00039119-00039359 the established ones L2R9zPQIAdk-00108-00039360-00039623 they're considered to be deviant and L2R9zPQIAdk-00109-00039624-00039809 then they'll really be thrown out of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00110-00039810-00040121 room or they get punished in order for L2R9zPQIAdk-00111-00040122-00040409 them to be corrected L2R9zPQIAdk-00112-00040410-00040655 so here we see L2R9zPQIAdk-00113-00040656-00040955 uh when people indiscriminately and L2R9zPQIAdk-00114-00040956-00041159 without any L2R9zPQIAdk-00115-00041160-00041483 um what we say L2R9zPQIAdk-00116-00041484-00041687 what's the word L2R9zPQIAdk-00117-00041688-00041980 uh yeah the word indiscriminately L2R9zPQIAdk-00118-00041981-00042161 without any L2R9zPQIAdk-00119-00042162-00042457 uh intelligence L2R9zPQIAdk-00120-00042458-00042827 acts simply like an animal L2R9zPQIAdk-00121-00042828-00043265 because the the four animal propensities L2R9zPQIAdk-00122-00043266-00043624 of the body which the human beings also L2R9zPQIAdk-00123-00043625-00044051 inhabit in other words animals eat we L2R9zPQIAdk-00124-00044052-00044296 eat the animals sleep L2R9zPQIAdk-00125-00044297-00044746 we also sleep the animals have sex the L2R9zPQIAdk-00126-00044747-00044987 Human Society also does that for L2R9zPQIAdk-00127-00044988-00045173 creation of children L2R9zPQIAdk-00128-00045174-00045587 and the Animal Society also defends L2R9zPQIAdk-00129-00045588-00045790 themselves in different ways with nails L2R9zPQIAdk-00130-00045791-00045952 claws L2R9zPQIAdk-00131-00045953-00046102 teeth L2R9zPQIAdk-00132-00046103-00046427 and various other things given by God L2R9zPQIAdk-00133-00046428-00046696 and the Human Society also develops a L2R9zPQIAdk-00134-00046697-00047046 great amount of arrangements for defense L2R9zPQIAdk-00135-00047047-00047368 locks on Doors L2R9zPQIAdk-00136-00047369-00047621 um armaments L2R9zPQIAdk-00137-00047622-00047771 um the biggest L2R9zPQIAdk-00138-00047772-00048173 budget spent in most countries is a L2R9zPQIAdk-00139-00048174-00048329 defense budget L2R9zPQIAdk-00140-00048330-00048730 because of fear propensity is so strong L2R9zPQIAdk-00141-00048731-00048983 fear that they will lose their L2R9zPQIAdk-00142-00048984-00049289 uh or they have their eating sleeping L2R9zPQIAdk-00143-00049290-00049745 and mating the challenged or destroyed L2R9zPQIAdk-00144-00049746-00049945 and therefore L2R9zPQIAdk-00145-00049946-00050227 defenses there L2R9zPQIAdk-00146-00050228-00050651 here probably after describing very L2R9zPQIAdk-00147-00050652-00050927 succinctly what happens in this L2R9zPQIAdk-00148-00050928-00051112 particular health L2R9zPQIAdk-00149-00051113-00051370 well but Ends by saying L2R9zPQIAdk-00150-00051371-00051611 some people will believe these and some L2R9zPQIAdk-00151-00051612-00051754 people will not L2R9zPQIAdk-00152-00051755-00052019 he doesn't go around any farther he says L2R9zPQIAdk-00153-00052020-00052258 everything must carry it out when he L2R9zPQIAdk-00154-00052259-00052408 wants of nature L2R9zPQIAdk-00155-00052409-00052630 which no one can avoid L2R9zPQIAdk-00156-00052632-00053123 karnam Gunnison L2R9zPQIAdk-00157-00053124-00053399 with material energy is both the L2R9zPQIAdk-00158-00053400-00053621 provider and The Punisher L2R9zPQIAdk-00159-00053622-00053849 of the living entity L2R9zPQIAdk-00160-00053850-00054119 under the guise and under the guidance L2R9zPQIAdk-00161-00054120-00054323 of God's Direction L2R9zPQIAdk-00162-00054324-00054569 through the material energy the material L2R9zPQIAdk-00163-00054570-00054838 energy works to give people the results L2R9zPQIAdk-00164-00054839-00055091 of their activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00165-00055091-00055397 just like now we are in we just came out L2R9zPQIAdk-00166-00055398-00055697 of maybe we didn't come out completely L2R9zPQIAdk-00167-00055698-00055979 or in some places that you still haven't L2R9zPQIAdk-00168-00055979-00056407 come out of this uh this epidemic of L2R9zPQIAdk-00169-00056408-00056759 coronavirus so these these epidemics are L2R9zPQIAdk-00170-00056760-00057047 viruses spread due to the sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-00171-00057048-00057365 activities of the population L2R9zPQIAdk-00172-00057366-00057779 so this is this is an indication of a L2R9zPQIAdk-00173-00057779-00057875 reaction L2R9zPQIAdk-00174-00057876-00058216 at least on the immediate level and of L2R9zPQIAdk-00175-00058217-00058553 course after one dies that doesn't one L2R9zPQIAdk-00176-00058554-00058757 doesn't atone for these L2R9zPQIAdk-00177-00058758-00058973 simple activities then they have to L2R9zPQIAdk-00178-00058974-00059188 again undergo punishment L2R9zPQIAdk-00179-00059189-00059680 by yamaraj who employs a very Fierce L2R9zPQIAdk-00180-00059682-00059963 Personalities in his service L2R9zPQIAdk-00181-00059964-00060203 to met out the punishment of the living L2R9zPQIAdk-00182-00060204-00060382 entities L2R9zPQIAdk-00183-00060383-00060707 so I'm seeing I I imagine you've been L2R9zPQIAdk-00184-00060708-00060971 going through this chapter L2R9zPQIAdk-00185-00060972-00061211 um verse by verse and hearing of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00186-00061212-00061409 different punishments L2R9zPQIAdk-00187-00061410-00061673 so some people will think well this is L2R9zPQIAdk-00188-00061674-00061787 just L2R9zPQIAdk-00189-00061788-00062213 some eulogy and some hyperbole some L2R9zPQIAdk-00190-00062214-00062399 imagination L2R9zPQIAdk-00191-00062400-00062566 in order to L2R9zPQIAdk-00192-00062567-00062885 um scare people from into CR into L2R9zPQIAdk-00193-00062886-00063226 following the rules and regulations L2R9zPQIAdk-00194-00063227-00063557 but these things are not imagination L2R9zPQIAdk-00195-00063558-00063863 but what level does this happen on this L2R9zPQIAdk-00196-00063864-00064153 happens on the subtle level L2R9zPQIAdk-00197-00064154-00064504 so you because if you read the L2R9zPQIAdk-00198-00064505-00064792 descriptions of the the punishments and L2R9zPQIAdk-00199-00064794-00065032 how the living entity has to go through L2R9zPQIAdk-00200-00065033-00065123 them L2R9zPQIAdk-00201-00065124-00065441 whether how come they don't die in the L2R9zPQIAdk-00202-00065441-00065615 midst of all of this because it happens L2R9zPQIAdk-00203-00065616-00065794 on the subtle level L2R9zPQIAdk-00204-00065795-00066149 just like when you go into a dream state L2R9zPQIAdk-00205-00066150-00066544 you also you actually function on L2R9zPQIAdk-00206-00066545-00066850 another level and you also suffer in joy L2R9zPQIAdk-00207-00066851-00067247 in the dream and sometimes there's even L2R9zPQIAdk-00208-00067248-00067576 physical symptoms of the dream L2R9zPQIAdk-00209-00067577-00068111 and one will you know and be embraced a L2R9zPQIAdk-00210-00068112-00068285 beautiful girl in the dream and there'll L2R9zPQIAdk-00211-00068286-00068488 be some kind of discharge L2R9zPQIAdk-00212-00068489-00068825 so that happens on the subtle level but L2R9zPQIAdk-00213-00068826-00069106 the activity sometimes manifests L2R9zPQIAdk-00214-00069107-00069335 on the girls level L2R9zPQIAdk-00215-00069336-00069605 but sometimes people have such terrible L2R9zPQIAdk-00216-00069606-00069832 dreams they actually die L2R9zPQIAdk-00217-00069833-00070132 that was fear in the dream L2R9zPQIAdk-00218-00070133-00070594 so um these things are there L2R9zPQIAdk-00219-00070595-00070888 because this is the nature of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00220-00070889-00071176 material energy L2R9zPQIAdk-00221-00071177-00071449 so for devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-00222-00071450-00071837 has given us the standard the low L2R9zPQIAdk-00223-00071838-00071999 illicit sex L2R9zPQIAdk-00224-00072000-00072256 no intoxication L2R9zPQIAdk-00225-00072257-00072437 no meat-eating L2R9zPQIAdk-00226-00072438-00072688 No gambling these are called the four L2R9zPQIAdk-00227-00072689-00073097 pillars of sinful activity and one who L2R9zPQIAdk-00228-00073098-00073361 adheres by restricting themselves from L2R9zPQIAdk-00229-00073362-00073493 these four L2R9zPQIAdk-00230-00073494-00073853 can practice Krishna consciousness L2R9zPQIAdk-00231-00073854-00074141 what we say progressively L2R9zPQIAdk-00232-00074142-00074476 if one is not following these four L2R9zPQIAdk-00233-00074477-00074938 and each one requires a explanation L2R9zPQIAdk-00234-00074939-00075173 there's a nice little book that was L2R9zPQIAdk-00235-00075174-00075382 released by L2R9zPQIAdk-00236-00075383-00075773 um the movie called satyaraj these quite L2R9zPQIAdk-00237-00075774-00075982 a prolific author he's written over L2R9zPQIAdk-00238-00075983-00076261 close to 40 books L2R9zPQIAdk-00239-00076262-00076673 and he takes each one of these sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-00240-00076674-00076925 activities illicit sex intoxication L2R9zPQIAdk-00241-00076926-00077129 reading Gamble L2R9zPQIAdk-00242-00077130-00077621 and explains them in a more detailed way L2R9zPQIAdk-00243-00077622-00077897 from different angles of vision L2R9zPQIAdk-00244-00077898-00078100 so that we get a lot of bladder L2R9zPQIAdk-00245-00078101-00078335 understanding what it is and what are L2R9zPQIAdk-00246-00078336-00078629 the reactions are but most important how L2R9zPQIAdk-00247-00078630-00078982 it how important it is to avoid these L2R9zPQIAdk-00248-00078983-00079211 things L2R9zPQIAdk-00249-00079212-00079469 when one takes initiation from the L2R9zPQIAdk-00250-00079470-00079655 spiritual master L2R9zPQIAdk-00251-00079656-00080123 and degrees to distance themselves L2R9zPQIAdk-00252-00080124-00080543 from these forcible activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00253-00080544-00080825 um then they make a vowel to the in L2R9zPQIAdk-00254-00080826-00081125 front of the spiritual master L2R9zPQIAdk-00255-00081126-00081388 in front of the fire which is L2R9zPQIAdk-00256-00081389-00081611 represented as Vishnu L2R9zPQIAdk-00257-00081612-00081899 and the Assembly of vaishnavas will L2R9zPQIAdk-00258-00081900-00082121 personally there L2R9zPQIAdk-00259-00082122-00082280 and of course L2R9zPQIAdk-00260-00082281-00082488 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00261-00082489-00082835 Guru vaishnavas fire and the Supreme L2R9zPQIAdk-00262-00082836-00083182 Lord who exists within the hearts of all L2R9zPQIAdk-00263-00083183-00083423 that we have entities L2R9zPQIAdk-00264-00083424-00083615 and so um L2R9zPQIAdk-00265-00083616-00083987 and if one does not L2R9zPQIAdk-00266-00083988-00084556 keep their vows of restrictions L2R9zPQIAdk-00267-00084557-00084988 then one commits sinful activities and L2R9zPQIAdk-00268-00084989-00085343 one falls down in devotional service so L2R9zPQIAdk-00269-00085344-00085835 breaking these four means you fall down L2R9zPQIAdk-00270-00085836-00086141 if we've neglected China rounds we don't L2R9zPQIAdk-00271-00086142-00086512 fall down but we don't gain any special L2R9zPQIAdk-00272-00086513-00086819 we don't we don't make any in the L2R9zPQIAdk-00273-00086820-00087065 advancement in devotional service L2R9zPQIAdk-00274-00087066-00087353 if we don't turn around and if we L2R9zPQIAdk-00275-00087354-00087682 continue to not chain our rounds then or L2R9zPQIAdk-00276-00087683-00087982 we will continue to fall below the L2R9zPQIAdk-00277-00087983-00088294 promise of our 16 rounds at the time of L2R9zPQIAdk-00278-00088295-00088426 initiation L2R9zPQIAdk-00279-00088427-00088762 then we will eventually start going back L2R9zPQIAdk-00280-00088763-00089038 to material life again L2R9zPQIAdk-00281-00089039-00089359 because Christian's name protects us L2R9zPQIAdk-00282-00089360-00089711 along with elevating Us in Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-00283-00089712-00089812 consciousness L2R9zPQIAdk-00284-00089813-00090197 but these floors prohibitions sometimes L2R9zPQIAdk-00285-00090198-00090617 they're called items of knowledge L2R9zPQIAdk-00286-00090618-00090941 um because they uh stabilize one's L2R9zPQIAdk-00287-00090942-00091253 execution of devotional service but one L2R9zPQIAdk-00288-00091254-00091493 is free from the reactions of sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-00289-00091494-00091732 activities when one comes to Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-00290-00091733-00091859 consciousness L2R9zPQIAdk-00291-00091860-00092176 one still has the results of one's L2R9zPQIAdk-00292-00092177-00092332 sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00293-00092333-00092603 still hanging in the balance L2R9zPQIAdk-00294-00092604-00092909 the spiritual Master will take the L2R9zPQIAdk-00295-00092910-00093137 reactions of those sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00296-00093138-00093449 partially on the first initiation and L2R9zPQIAdk-00297-00093450-00093538 second L2R9zPQIAdk-00298-00093539-00093805 but completely on the second initiation L2R9zPQIAdk-00299-00093806-00094211 in order for the disciple to execute L2R9zPQIAdk-00300-00094212-00094594 devotional service progressively and uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00301-00094595-00094715 steadily L2R9zPQIAdk-00302-00094716-00095075 what if one goes back to conforming L2R9zPQIAdk-00303-00095076-00095255 these activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00304-00095256-00095603 then one and again is building up their L2R9zPQIAdk-00305-00095604-00095921 sinful Karma and both the spiritual L2R9zPQIAdk-00306-00095922-00096299 master and the disciple get a reaction L2R9zPQIAdk-00307-00096300-00096437 for them L2R9zPQIAdk-00308-00096438-00096731 the spiritual master has to make sure L2R9zPQIAdk-00309-00096732-00097097 his disciples follow very strictly these L2R9zPQIAdk-00310-00097098-00097391 four otherwise he also suffers the L2R9zPQIAdk-00311-00097392-00097675 reactions this suffering is not like L2R9zPQIAdk-00312-00097676-00097973 it's just that the spiritual Master will L2R9zPQIAdk-00313-00097974-00098332 get bad dreams the spiritual Master will L2R9zPQIAdk-00314-00098333-00098482 get sick L2R9zPQIAdk-00315-00098483-00098885 well and this is due to weeds disciples L2R9zPQIAdk-00316-00098886-00099137 who promised to follow us in these four L2R9zPQIAdk-00317-00099138-00099391 principles that break them and then L2R9zPQIAdk-00318-00099392-00099844 spiritual Master gets some reaction also L2R9zPQIAdk-00319-00099845-00100043 so we say if you have any love for your L2R9zPQIAdk-00320-00100044-00100318 spiritual Master then very carefully L2R9zPQIAdk-00321-00100319-00100626 follow these four principles L2R9zPQIAdk-00322-00100627-00101074 blessed sex means in marriage only for L2R9zPQIAdk-00323-00101075-00101311 the procreation of children and father L2R9zPQIAdk-00324-00101312-00101765 gifts for familiar this this uh this L2R9zPQIAdk-00325-00101766-00102124 desire to enjoy the opposite sex through L2R9zPQIAdk-00326-00102125-00102478 these activities of sexual sex life L2R9zPQIAdk-00327-00102479-00102925 is actually the foundation for all L2R9zPQIAdk-00328-00102926-00103168 sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00329-00103169-00103451 one can very carefully L2R9zPQIAdk-00330-00103452-00103601 and very L2R9zPQIAdk-00331-00103602-00103908 uh consciously avoid L2R9zPQIAdk-00332-00103909-00104110 illicit sex L2R9zPQIAdk-00333-00104111-00104428 and also follow very strictly the L2R9zPQIAdk-00334-00104429-00104668 principles one can make very fast L2R9zPQIAdk-00335-00104669-00104842 advancements L2R9zPQIAdk-00336-00104843-00105190 professional consciousness L2R9zPQIAdk-00337-00105191-00105563 um and here we see how L2R9zPQIAdk-00338-00105564-00105851 strong the sex urges it's mentioned here L2R9zPQIAdk-00339-00105852-00106234 it is so strong and that it's even it L2R9zPQIAdk-00340-00106235-00106471 goes outside of the human L2R9zPQIAdk-00341-00106472-00106757 species where the humans will engage L2R9zPQIAdk-00342-00106758-00107166 with animals there's places in Mexico L2R9zPQIAdk-00343-00107167-00107508 where they put on performances like that L2R9zPQIAdk-00344-00107509-00108034 where a lady will have sex with a dog or L2R9zPQIAdk-00345-00108035-00108389 an animal on stage and people will come L2R9zPQIAdk-00346-00108390-00108749 and watch that so you can see it's just L2R9zPQIAdk-00347-00108750-00109013 how degraded the human culture can L2R9zPQIAdk-00348-00109014-00109127 become L2R9zPQIAdk-00349-00109128-00109499 in such and by acting almost not even L2R9zPQIAdk-00350-00109500-00109889 the animals will not even act like that L2R9zPQIAdk-00351-00109890-00110201 the animals follow the laws and material L2R9zPQIAdk-00352-00110202-00110501 nature very careful L2R9zPQIAdk-00353-00110502-00110773 but the human being has its what we call L2R9zPQIAdk-00354-00110774-00111083 uh Independence L2R9zPQIAdk-00355-00111083-00111371 and the human being can misuse the L2R9zPQIAdk-00356-00111372-00111634 independence and become lower than an L2R9zPQIAdk-00357-00111635-00111934 animal here is the example how they L2R9zPQIAdk-00358-00111935-00112145 become lower than an animal not just L2R9zPQIAdk-00359-00112146-00112360 they act like animals but it's even L2R9zPQIAdk-00360-00112361-00112504 lower than the animal because the L2R9zPQIAdk-00361-00112505-00112775 animals do not act like this L2R9zPQIAdk-00362-00112776-00113104 and so here you see the punishment is L2R9zPQIAdk-00363-00113105-00113213 very L2R9zPQIAdk-00364-00113214-00113339 strong L2R9zPQIAdk-00365-00113340-00113633 and the Agents of the amarage pulled the L2R9zPQIAdk-00366-00113633-00113813 person down L2R9zPQIAdk-00367-00113814-00114227 on this very silky tree that has big L2R9zPQIAdk-00368-00114228-00114634 gigantic storms that are that will rip L2R9zPQIAdk-00369-00114635-00114923 the body of the person as they as they L2R9zPQIAdk-00370-00114924-00115210 as they Glide down this tree L2R9zPQIAdk-00371-00115211-00115427 so you can imagine how much suffering L2R9zPQIAdk-00372-00115428-00115619 that is L2R9zPQIAdk-00373-00115620-00115825 and and so L2R9zPQIAdk-00374-00115826-00116002 these uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00375-00116003-00116513 you know Maharaja parikshas hearing from L2R9zPQIAdk-00376-00116514-00116734 the descriptions of this hella's life L2R9zPQIAdk-00377-00116735-00116975 and he's becoming astounded L2R9zPQIAdk-00378-00116976-00117366 it's becoming uh overwhelmed with L2R9zPQIAdk-00379-00117367-00117647 concern how much the living entity has L2R9zPQIAdk-00380-00117648-00117833 to suffer L2R9zPQIAdk-00381-00117833-00118121 and then of course as you go to the end L2R9zPQIAdk-00382-00118122-00118445 of this chapter and You Begin the first L2R9zPQIAdk-00383-00118446-00118781 two verses from the next chapter you'll L2R9zPQIAdk-00384-00118782-00119116 start to see how maharaja's prediction L2R9zPQIAdk-00385-00119117-00119369 starts to say well is there any way they L2R9zPQIAdk-00386-00119370-00119584 can be free from the reactions of this L2R9zPQIAdk-00387-00119585-00119897 is there any president they said what is L2R9zPQIAdk-00388-00119898-00120173 the what is the atonement for such L2R9zPQIAdk-00389-00120174-00120616 activities and then that opens up the L2R9zPQIAdk-00390-00120617-00121031 whole topic of the six cantones which is L2R9zPQIAdk-00391-00121032-00121393 really one of the most interesting L2R9zPQIAdk-00392-00121394-00121643 explanations of the process of L2R9zPQIAdk-00393-00121644-00122183 devotionalists L2R9zPQIAdk-00394-00122183-00122440 um and so that would be fool with one L2R9zPQIAdk-00395-00122441-00122669 cannot flaunt the material energy and L2R9zPQIAdk-00396-00122670-00122836 think they will not get their own L2R9zPQIAdk-00397-00122838-00122971 reaction L2R9zPQIAdk-00398-00122972-00123227 therefore one has to follow very L2R9zPQIAdk-00399-00123228-00123340 strictly L2R9zPQIAdk-00400-00123341-00123527 and following L2R9zPQIAdk-00401-00123528-00123910 strictly becomes L2R9zPQIAdk-00402-00123911-00124121 easy L2R9zPQIAdk-00403-00124122-00124445 if one adhere especially the most L2R9zPQIAdk-00404-00124446-00124649 important instruction of the spiritual L2R9zPQIAdk-00405-00124650-00124943 medicine is the chance 16 rounds on L2R9zPQIAdk-00406-00124944-00125069 beads L2R9zPQIAdk-00407-00125070-00125416 every day without fail L2R9zPQIAdk-00408-00125417-00125633 to the Palm part has given that L2R9zPQIAdk-00409-00125633-00125801 statement as L2R9zPQIAdk-00410-00125802-00126077 is most important instruction that this L2R9zPQIAdk-00411-00126078-00126527 is what is required in order to please L2R9zPQIAdk-00412-00126528-00126863 and the spiritual master and to move L2R9zPQIAdk-00413-00126864-00127175 forward in the worship L2R9zPQIAdk-00414-00127176-00127708 I I personally know many developments L2R9zPQIAdk-00415-00127709-00128015 who don't follow their vows after taking L2R9zPQIAdk-00416-00128016-00128254 initiation L2R9zPQIAdk-00417-00128255-00128590 it's sad to see but they're only hurting L2R9zPQIAdk-00418-00128591-00128878 themselves and they're also making it L2R9zPQIAdk-00419-00128879-00129160 difficult for other devotees and at the L2R9zPQIAdk-00420-00129161-00129478 same time they're also making it very L2R9zPQIAdk-00421-00129479-00129713 painful for their spiritual Master how L2R9zPQIAdk-00422-00129714-00129916 many times see the problem L2R9zPQIAdk-00423-00129917-00130240 is written and talked about begging his L2R9zPQIAdk-00424-00130241-00130564 disciples to very carefully follow these L2R9zPQIAdk-00425-00130565-00130852 instructions who said if you just do L2R9zPQIAdk-00426-00130853-00131387 that 10 16 rounds and follow these four L2R9zPQIAdk-00427-00131388-00131699 restrictions he said at the end of life L2R9zPQIAdk-00428-00131700-00131927 you can go back to God L2R9zPQIAdk-00429-00131928-00132257 that's how merciful saitanya mahaprabhu L2R9zPQIAdk-00430-00132258-00132587 is and that Mercy manifestation has come L2R9zPQIAdk-00431-00132588-00133031 come and look for love share a problem L2R9zPQIAdk-00432-00133032-00133439 so um yeah so we get an idea here L2R9zPQIAdk-00433-00133440-00133828 but this urge to enjoy the census is so L2R9zPQIAdk-00434-00133829-00133954 strong L2R9zPQIAdk-00435-00133955-00134333 that even people who know L2R9zPQIAdk-00436-00134334-00134602 what they're what they want to do is L2R9zPQIAdk-00437-00134603-00134939 wrong they still do it L2R9zPQIAdk-00438-00134940-00135304 we have the example of deuterastra L2R9zPQIAdk-00439-00135305-00135659 due to us it was so attached to his sons L2R9zPQIAdk-00440-00135660-00135940 that he knew his sons were Lord L2R9zPQIAdk-00441-00135941-00136264 he knew Krishna was right he knew his L2R9zPQIAdk-00442-00136265-00136559 sons were avaricious but because he was L2R9zPQIAdk-00443-00136560-00136907 attached on a bodily platform he even L2R9zPQIAdk-00444-00136908-00137154 admitted it he could not L2R9zPQIAdk-00445-00137155-00137501 he could not do otherwise L2R9zPQIAdk-00446-00137502-00137801 and there's many examples and you'll see L2R9zPQIAdk-00447-00137802-00138166 in the material world people are warned L2R9zPQIAdk-00448-00138167-00138502 about smoking cigarettes on the package L2R9zPQIAdk-00449-00138503-00138601 itself L2R9zPQIAdk-00450-00138602-00139009 the statements have become more and more L2R9zPQIAdk-00451-00139010-00139421 stronger to warn people how dangerous it L2R9zPQIAdk-00452-00139422-00139516 is L2R9zPQIAdk-00453-00139517-00139763 to smoke cigarettes L2R9zPQIAdk-00454-00139764-00140063 it's it's interesting because when L2R9zPQIAdk-00455-00140064-00140314 cigarettes first came out L2R9zPQIAdk-00456-00140315-00140861 back in the 1940s as a social thing to L2R9zPQIAdk-00457-00140862-00141178 do and became very popular right right L2R9zPQIAdk-00458-00141179-00141425 at the end of World War One a World War L2R9zPQIAdk-00459-00141426-00141773 II or just you know during that time and L2R9zPQIAdk-00460-00141774-00142087 doctors and people in L2R9zPQIAdk-00461-00142088-00142378 entertainment were glorifying smoking L2R9zPQIAdk-00462-00142379-00142564 cigarettes L2R9zPQIAdk-00463-00142565-00142828 now but now they have come to the L2R9zPQIAdk-00464-00142829-00143135 understanding the choice to come to the L2R9zPQIAdk-00465-00143136-00143459 understanding that smoking cigarettes is L2R9zPQIAdk-00466-00143460-00143723 so dangerous to your health that on the L2R9zPQIAdk-00467-00143724-00144269 package it says uh it causes death L2R9zPQIAdk-00468-00144270-00144514 it writes that on the package if you L2R9zPQIAdk-00469-00144515-00144685 smoke you can die L2R9zPQIAdk-00470-00144686-00145247 and this is not some scare tactic L2R9zPQIAdk-00471-00145248-00145463 um I had a very L2R9zPQIAdk-00472-00145464-00145745 I have a very good doctor friend who is L2R9zPQIAdk-00473-00145746-00145871 a devotee L2R9zPQIAdk-00474-00145872-00146321 and I asked him what is the L2R9zPQIAdk-00475-00146322-00146731 number one cause of cancer L2R9zPQIAdk-00476-00146732-00147011 there's so many kinds of cancer in the L2R9zPQIAdk-00477-00147012-00147083 world L2R9zPQIAdk-00478-00147084-00147364 and he said the number one cause in one L2R9zPQIAdk-00479-00147365-00147616 of the kind of cancer is cancer coming L2R9zPQIAdk-00480-00147617-00147827 from uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00481-00147828-00148264 lung cancer caused by smoking cigarettes L2R9zPQIAdk-00482-00148265-00148411 and L2R9zPQIAdk-00483-00148412-00148871 tobacco you know pipes and cigars things L2R9zPQIAdk-00484-00148872-00148997 like that L2R9zPQIAdk-00485-00148998-00149171 so people know L2R9zPQIAdk-00486-00149172-00149416 they read the package they hear from L2R9zPQIAdk-00487-00149417-00149735 others they see people dying but they L2R9zPQIAdk-00488-00149736-00150109 still do it L2R9zPQIAdk-00489-00150110-00150427 Bubba says night night Chung L2R9zPQIAdk-00490-00150428-00150743 he uses a word like Chung L2R9zPQIAdk-00491-00150744-00151031 it's a very powerful word is that I know L2R9zPQIAdk-00492-00151032-00151445 it's wrong but I'm going to do it anyway L2R9zPQIAdk-00493-00151446-00151763 and that considering the results but L2R9zPQIAdk-00494-00151764-00152111 material energy is showing how it works L2R9zPQIAdk-00495-00152112-00152471 in these in this particular chapter L2R9zPQIAdk-00496-00152472-00152771 how severely the living entity gets L2R9zPQIAdk-00497-00152772-00153004 punished not even not only during the L2R9zPQIAdk-00498-00153005-00153166 time that they're conforming the L2R9zPQIAdk-00499-00153167-00153526 activity but after death they get a L2R9zPQIAdk-00500-00153527-00153725 whole series of punishments under the L2R9zPQIAdk-00501-00153726-00153923 hands of yamaraja L2R9zPQIAdk-00502-00153924-00154211 whose business is to give them the L2R9zPQIAdk-00503-00154212-00154445 results of their activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00504-00154446-00154661 and then prepare them for their next L2R9zPQIAdk-00505-00154662-00154990 body L2R9zPQIAdk-00506-00154991-00155159 so um yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00507-00155160-00155440 these descriptions are polite L2R9zPQIAdk-00508-00155441-00155597 Vivid L2R9zPQIAdk-00509-00155598-00155819 and it's probably says whether you L2R9zPQIAdk-00510-00155820-00156113 believe them or not the laws of nature L2R9zPQIAdk-00511-00156114-00156299 are working L2R9zPQIAdk-00512-00156300-00156539 now this is L2R9zPQIAdk-00513-00156540-00156826 nature is very strong L2R9zPQIAdk-00514-00156827-00157114 the compassionate aspect of nature L2R9zPQIAdk-00515-00157115-00157397 doesn't exist because nature doesn't L2R9zPQIAdk-00516-00157398-00157669 carry a compassionate aspect it carries L2R9zPQIAdk-00517-00157670-00158014 its righteousness and its punishment L2R9zPQIAdk-00518-00158015-00158297 those who follow the laws of God benefit L2R9zPQIAdk-00519-00158298-00158549 and glorify and become happy and L2R9zPQIAdk-00520-00158550-00158873 prosperous healthy those who break the L2R9zPQIAdk-00521-00158874-00159209 laws and suffer and they get reactions L2R9zPQIAdk-00522-00159210-00159551 and they have to undergo severe acts of L2R9zPQIAdk-00523-00159552-00159911 punishment the mercy manifestation is L2R9zPQIAdk-00524-00159912-00160126 Krishna himself in the form of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00525-00160127-00160475 spiritual Master which can save one from L2R9zPQIAdk-00526-00160476-00160745 the reactions of material energy L2R9zPQIAdk-00527-00160746-00161045 and one has to seriously and regularly L2R9zPQIAdk-00528-00161046-00161297 take shelter of the instructions of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00529-00161298-00161464 spiritual master L2R9zPQIAdk-00530-00161465-00161807 more focus on them as one's modus L2R9zPQIAdk-00531-00161808-00161947 operandi L2R9zPQIAdk-00532-00161948-00162364 means of operation and one will be free L2R9zPQIAdk-00533-00162365-00162959 from the reactions of sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00534-00162960-00163289 and therefore one will be happy because L2R9zPQIAdk-00535-00163290-00163583 sinful activities cause us to stress L2R9zPQIAdk-00536-00163584-00163859 causes suffering both physically L2R9zPQIAdk-00537-00163860-00164123 mentally and ultimately L2R9zPQIAdk-00538-00164124-00164645 it blocks one spiritual drivers L2R9zPQIAdk-00539-00164646-00164825 so yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00540-00164826-00165157 but here in the sex surge is so strong L2R9zPQIAdk-00541-00165158-00165575 that any kind of discrimination L2R9zPQIAdk-00542-00165576-00165828 that is simply thrown to the wind L2R9zPQIAdk-00543-00165829-00166235 because people become dislike we L2R9zPQIAdk-00544-00166236-00166411 mentioned the example with cigarettes L2R9zPQIAdk-00545-00166412-00166852 whether the alcohol is the same thing L2R9zPQIAdk-00546-00166853-00167147 they have they have created clubs L2R9zPQIAdk-00547-00167148-00167266 nowadays L2R9zPQIAdk-00548-00167267-00167711 or groups for for curing people of L2R9zPQIAdk-00549-00167712-00167873 addictions L2R9zPQIAdk-00550-00167874-00168126 they have what is called L2R9zPQIAdk-00551-00168127-00168540 smokers anonymous L2R9zPQIAdk-00552-00168541-00168797 Alcoholics Anonymous L2R9zPQIAdk-00553-00168798-00169078 sex anonymous too there are people who L2R9zPQIAdk-00554-00169079-00169289 are so addicted to sex life L2R9zPQIAdk-00555-00169290-00169601 that they can't stop L2R9zPQIAdk-00556-00169602-00169931 you see in some places they have L2R9zPQIAdk-00557-00169932-00170119 movies L2R9zPQIAdk-00558-00170120-00170447 pornographic shops various types of L2R9zPQIAdk-00559-00170448-00170740 entertainment that goes on illustrating L2R9zPQIAdk-00560-00170741-00171035 sex life in so many different ways L2R9zPQIAdk-00561-00171036-00171269 it's such an attachment for some people L2R9zPQIAdk-00562-00171270-00171473 that they become neurotic L2R9zPQIAdk-00563-00171474-00171701 and can't give it up L2R9zPQIAdk-00564-00171702-00171983 and therefore there is so many crimes L2R9zPQIAdk-00565-00171984-00172421 connected with this sex desire L2R9zPQIAdk-00566-00172422-00172714 but it has to be regulated by the L2R9zPQIAdk-00567-00172715-00172902 process of L2R9zPQIAdk-00568-00172903-00173363 Krishna Consciousness and geared simply L2R9zPQIAdk-00569-00173364-00173795 for procreation of children in a Godly L2R9zPQIAdk-00570-00173796-00173963 atmosphere L2R9zPQIAdk-00571-00173964-00174421 and then one can facilitate that desire L2R9zPQIAdk-00572-00174422-00174814 in a as as Krishna says in the body of L2R9zPQIAdk-00573-00174815-00174947 Gita L2R9zPQIAdk-00574-00174948-00175289 I am that sex life which is not contrary L2R9zPQIAdk-00575-00175290-00175726 to religious principles come out to me L2R9zPQIAdk-00576-00175727-00176197 by a test of our krsna says come on L2R9zPQIAdk-00577-00176198-00176557 I am the sex life which is not country L2R9zPQIAdk-00578-00176558-00176926 to religious principles that means only L2R9zPQIAdk-00579-00176927-00177202 for the procreation L2R9zPQIAdk-00580-00177203-00177388 children L2R9zPQIAdk-00581-00177389-00177587 and then one can live a happy and L2R9zPQIAdk-00582-00177588-00178031 peaceful life with family and uh produce L2R9zPQIAdk-00583-00178032-00178259 nice krishna-conscious children L2R9zPQIAdk-00584-00178260-00178666 who can grow up and become a credit to L2R9zPQIAdk-00585-00178667-00178883 the World by becoming great devotee and L2R9zPQIAdk-00586-00178884-00179081 the voice of the Lord L2R9zPQIAdk-00587-00179082-00179225 that L2R9zPQIAdk-00588-00179226-00179561 if one engages in illicit sex life L2R9zPQIAdk-00589-00179562-00179845 then what happens is one will L2R9zPQIAdk-00590-00179846-00180125 bring in the soul L2R9zPQIAdk-00591-00180126-00180383 if there is some conception due to that L2R9zPQIAdk-00592-00180384-00180616 sex life that listens to a particular L2R9zPQIAdk-00593-00180617-00180899 type of soul will come from a lower L2R9zPQIAdk-00594-00180900-00180995 planet L2R9zPQIAdk-00595-00180996-00181235 into the womb of that mother L2R9zPQIAdk-00596-00181236-00181799 and then that that child will be very L2R9zPQIAdk-00597-00181800-00182231 very sinful you know start off life in L2R9zPQIAdk-00598-00182232-00182519 that simple way and sometimes we see L2R9zPQIAdk-00599-00182520-00182795 even young children unique especially L2R9zPQIAdk-00600-00182796-00183251 nowadays they're wild they're like you L2R9zPQIAdk-00601-00183252-00183497 know Hell on Wheels L2R9zPQIAdk-00602-00183498-00183814 who have so many examples of especially L2R9zPQIAdk-00603-00183815-00184049 in the United States of America L2R9zPQIAdk-00604-00184050-00184325 the children will go into schools with L2R9zPQIAdk-00605-00184326-00184588 automatic rifles and just annihilate L2R9zPQIAdk-00606-00184589-00184937 after class and then with the teachers L2R9zPQIAdk-00607-00184938-00185225 these are kids for no reason L2R9zPQIAdk-00608-00185226-00185537 they become like you know vicious L2R9zPQIAdk-00609-00185538-00185861 because this is all due to illicit sex L2R9zPQIAdk-00610-00185862-00185951 life L2R9zPQIAdk-00611-00185952-00186149 because when one doesn't follow the L2R9zPQIAdk-00612-00186150-00186359 rules they bring in these Souls from L2R9zPQIAdk-00613-00186360-00186676 lower places and these cells are worn L2R9zPQIAdk-00614-00186677-00187085 and they're worn with a lot of anger L2R9zPQIAdk-00615-00187086-00187499 and then you see the kids nowadays L2R9zPQIAdk-00616-00187500-00187685 so unruly L2R9zPQIAdk-00617-00187686-00187883 for that you know L2R9zPQIAdk-00618-00187884-00188266 and so many so much juvenile crime L2R9zPQIAdk-00619-00188267-00188537 it's like in the UK alone in the United L2R9zPQIAdk-00620-00188538-00188723 Kingdom L2R9zPQIAdk-00621-00188724-00189185 uh it's one statistic shows that by the L2R9zPQIAdk-00622-00189186-00189414 age of 11 years old L2R9zPQIAdk-00623-00189415-00189683 then these these children will have L2R9zPQIAdk-00624-00189684-00189859 tried everything L2R9zPQIAdk-00625-00189860-00190199 illicit sex intoxication and all kinds L2R9zPQIAdk-00626-00190200-00190463 of other sinful activities at the L2R9zPQIAdk-00627-00190464-00190876 average age will be about 11 years old L2R9zPQIAdk-00628-00190877-00191261 so we have created this hellish this L2R9zPQIAdk-00629-00191262-00191393 Society L2R9zPQIAdk-00630-00191394-00191647 and it's becoming more hellish L2R9zPQIAdk-00631-00191648-00191921 and people wonder why there's so many L2R9zPQIAdk-00632-00191922-00192166 crime so much suffering L2R9zPQIAdk-00633-00192167-00192335 so much L2R9zPQIAdk-00634-00192336-00192587 and the politicians think well we just L2R9zPQIAdk-00635-00192588-00192838 have to adjust the economics we have to L2R9zPQIAdk-00636-00192839-00193133 adjust the social systems we have to L2R9zPQIAdk-00637-00193134-00193349 adjust the political systems and then L2R9zPQIAdk-00638-00193350-00193709 move right now it's the morality which L2R9zPQIAdk-00639-00193710-00194104 is the cause of uh destruction of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00640-00194105-00194388 character of this is of the individual L2R9zPQIAdk-00641-00194389-00194716 along with Society L2R9zPQIAdk-00642-00194717-00194987 so when morality is thrown out the L2R9zPQIAdk-00643-00194988-00195233 window in order for want and enjoyment L2R9zPQIAdk-00644-00195234-00195569 especially centered around sex life and L2R9zPQIAdk-00645-00195570-00195940 then the whole society Goes to Hell L2R9zPQIAdk-00646-00195941-00196193 women are not protected L2R9zPQIAdk-00647-00196194-00196414 and probably said women can't even walk L2R9zPQIAdk-00648-00196415-00196625 the streets at night many of the big L2R9zPQIAdk-00649-00196626-00196835 cities around the world L2R9zPQIAdk-00650-00196836-00197045 although there are police forces and L2R9zPQIAdk-00651-00197046-00197326 there are other forms of protection L2R9zPQIAdk-00652-00197327-00197549 nothing works because L2R9zPQIAdk-00653-00197550-00197999 these uh criminals they stalk out L2R9zPQIAdk-00654-00198000-00198143 innocent women L2R9zPQIAdk-00655-00198144-00198352 and uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00656-00198353-00198604 and and they perform their sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-00657-00198605-00198875 activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00658-00198876-00199133 so the jails are full L2R9zPQIAdk-00659-00199134-00199445 you know we do jail preaching and some L2R9zPQIAdk-00660-00199446-00199661 of the jails are becoming so full that L2R9zPQIAdk-00661-00199662-00199816 they have they are they're creating more L2R9zPQIAdk-00662-00199817-00200052 jails in order to house all the L2R9zPQIAdk-00663-00200053-00200302 criminals and Society L2R9zPQIAdk-00664-00200303-00200488 these are the ones that get caught in L2R9zPQIAdk-00665-00200489-00200657 the course and when there's many that L2R9zPQIAdk-00666-00200658-00200897 who don't get caught who continue their L2R9zPQIAdk-00667-00200898-00201438 sinful life protected by their own uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00668-00201439-00201643 what we say L2R9zPQIAdk-00669-00201644-00202097 financial status L2R9zPQIAdk-00670-00202098-00202325 so uh yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00671-00202326-00202613 so uh these four principles know this L2R9zPQIAdk-00672-00202614-00202888 it's sex not intoxication no need L2R9zPQIAdk-00673-00202889-00203285 reading No gambling my these are the L2R9zPQIAdk-00674-00203286-00203561 foundation of a Godly Society L2R9zPQIAdk-00675-00203562-00203999 of a moral Society have a happy human L2R9zPQIAdk-00676-00204000-00204407 being so I have one to be very careful L2R9zPQIAdk-00677-00204408-00204790 to follow these very carefully L2R9zPQIAdk-00678-00204791-00205188 and according to how they are understood L2R9zPQIAdk-00679-00205189-00205588 and cannot create their own ideas and L2R9zPQIAdk-00680-00205589-00205786 say well this is L2R9zPQIAdk-00681-00205787-00206188 the laws I follow no the scriptures and L2R9zPQIAdk-00682-00206189-00206501 then for the human form of life L2R9zPQIAdk-00683-00206502-00206788 and if we follow them very carefully L2R9zPQIAdk-00684-00206789-00206992 we will grow L2R9zPQIAdk-00685-00206994-00207394 more spiritually and become Fosters even L2R9zPQIAdk-00686-00207396-00207775 on the material Level L2R9zPQIAdk-00687-00207776-00208031 Okay so L2R9zPQIAdk-00688-00208032-00208390 very Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-00689-00208391-00208612 thank you Maharaj for the wonderful L2R9zPQIAdk-00690-00208613-00208829 wonderful class thank you again for L2R9zPQIAdk-00691-00208830-00208984 reinforcing all the four regulator L2R9zPQIAdk-00692-00208985-00209248 principles now Maharaj you are very L2R9zPQIAdk-00693-00209250-00209446 right I have also seen um certain L2R9zPQIAdk-00694-00209448-00209777 devotees after initiation and jokingly L2R9zPQIAdk-00695-00209778-00209927 they would say they are following three L2R9zPQIAdk-00696-00209928-00210263 and a half regulation close to four or L2R9zPQIAdk-00697-00210264-00210479 something now what happens I mean they L2R9zPQIAdk-00698-00210480-00210694 are initiated uh so what happened to L2R9zPQIAdk-00699-00210696-00210869 their spiritual master and these L2R9zPQIAdk-00700-00210869-00211175 devotees I mean are they able is the L2R9zPQIAdk-00701-00211176-00211367 spiritual master of such devotee is able L2R9zPQIAdk-00702-00211367-00211589 to go back to godhead L2R9zPQIAdk-00703-00211590-00211855 or uh do this yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00704-00211856-00212182 they have to of course there's chances L2R9zPQIAdk-00705-00212183-00212453 to change if you break L2R9zPQIAdk-00706-00212454-00212710 you can again come to the standard by L2R9zPQIAdk-00707-00212711-00212939 giving up the activity L2R9zPQIAdk-00708-00212940-00213227 again following very strictly but if you L2R9zPQIAdk-00709-00213228-00213665 don't you just continue to go down L2R9zPQIAdk-00710-00213666-00213887 and you can obviously you won't be able L2R9zPQIAdk-00711-00213888-00214037 to go to the back to godhead because L2R9zPQIAdk-00712-00214038-00214258 back to God and it's a place for people L2R9zPQIAdk-00713-00214259-00214546 who have developed the love of God not L2R9zPQIAdk-00714-00214548-00214901 love for this material world L2R9zPQIAdk-00715-00214902-00215069 so what happened to these people L2R9zPQIAdk-00716-00215069-00215321 probably is is their desire like as you L2R9zPQIAdk-00717-00215321-00215471 see we see it on the cigarette thing L2R9zPQIAdk-00718-00215471-00215746 it's written it will kill I mean these L2R9zPQIAdk-00719-00215748-00216046 are educated intellectual people despite L2R9zPQIAdk-00720-00216048-00216227 they do it is it their strong L2R9zPQIAdk-00721-00216228-00216508 Fascination from many many lives that L2R9zPQIAdk-00722-00216509-00216773 they cannot give up despite everything L2R9zPQIAdk-00723-00216773-00217079 well in sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00724-00217080-00217348 and dislike when you plant a seed in the L2R9zPQIAdk-00725-00217350-00217542 ground L2R9zPQIAdk-00726-00217544-00217865 you don't see the plant growing until it L2R9zPQIAdk-00727-00217866-00218069 reaches the surface of the ground then L2R9zPQIAdk-00728-00218069-00218260 you can see it growing L2R9zPQIAdk-00729-00218261-00218506 but it starts to grow when you start L2R9zPQIAdk-00730-00218507-00218681 putting the seed in the ground so it's L2R9zPQIAdk-00731-00218682-00218879 growing Underground L2R9zPQIAdk-00732-00218880-00219160 so when we commit a particular activity L2R9zPQIAdk-00733-00219161-00219491 we plant a karmic seed and that karmic L2R9zPQIAdk-00734-00219492-00219646 seed grows L2R9zPQIAdk-00735-00219648-00219853 and it starts to develop and then it L2R9zPQIAdk-00736-00219854-00220060 destructifies that we were into the L2R9zPQIAdk-00737-00220061-00220260 reaction L2R9zPQIAdk-00738-00220261-00220721 and so a lot of these uh seeds that we L2R9zPQIAdk-00739-00220721-00221032 plant have very deep roots L2R9zPQIAdk-00740-00221033-00221296 although we made somehow or other L2R9zPQIAdk-00741-00221298-00221441 stop L2R9zPQIAdk-00742-00221442-00221765 for a while unless we pull it out at the L2R9zPQIAdk-00743-00221766-00222010 root and this is what you know this is L2R9zPQIAdk-00744-00222011-00222139 the whole L2R9zPQIAdk-00745-00222140-00222365 discussion that will come up in the L2R9zPQIAdk-00746-00222366-00222653 beginning of the next chapter L2R9zPQIAdk-00747-00222654-00223037 that simple simply by atoning for sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-00748-00223038-00223175 activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00749-00223176-00223421 doesn't mean you get rid of the desire L2R9zPQIAdk-00750-00223421-00223667 for sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-00751-00223667-00223925 just like when you when people commit L2R9zPQIAdk-00752-00223926-00224171 crimes they go to jail but the L2R9zPQIAdk-00753-00224171-00224639 statistics show that people who I forgot L2R9zPQIAdk-00754-00224640-00224969 the term analogy they use people who L2R9zPQIAdk-00755-00224969-00225196 revisit the jails after if it's a L2R9zPQIAdk-00756-00225198-00225437 particular word L2R9zPQIAdk-00757-00225438-00225737 maybe somebody knows that way L2R9zPQIAdk-00758-00225738-00226205 you know what they return and almost 70 L2R9zPQIAdk-00759-00226206-00226492 percent of the people who commit crimes L2R9zPQIAdk-00760-00226494-00226744 get out of jail and return to jail again L2R9zPQIAdk-00761-00226746-00227008 why because the central desire is still L2R9zPQIAdk-00762-00227009-00227329 in the heart punishment doesn't relieve L2R9zPQIAdk-00763-00227330-00227689 the desire L2R9zPQIAdk-00764-00227690-00228041 Congressman doesn't correct people's L2R9zPQIAdk-00765-00228042-00228382 activities what corrects it is they have L2R9zPQIAdk-00766-00228383-00228665 to get rid of that desire by replacing L2R9zPQIAdk-00767-00228666-00228953 it with the spiritual desire L2R9zPQIAdk-00768-00228954-00229427 or a biased desire okay L2R9zPQIAdk-00769-00229428-00229679 so yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00770-00229680-00230153 that's why L2R9zPQIAdk-00771-00230154-00230303 I can understand L2R9zPQIAdk-00772-00230304-00231953 instead of falling foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-00773-00231954-00232289 no I meant like it should be strictly L2R9zPQIAdk-00774-00232290-00232529 for like strictly eat prasadam but L2R9zPQIAdk-00775-00232530-00232708 sometimes people are traveling and they L2R9zPQIAdk-00776-00232709-00232877 will eat here their restaurant so it's L2R9zPQIAdk-00777-00232878-00233081 not exactly for it ends up like L2R9zPQIAdk-00778-00233082-00233248 following three and a half regulative L2R9zPQIAdk-00779-00233250-00233465 principles so there's nothing like three L2R9zPQIAdk-00780-00233466-00233729 and a half of us just asking Maharashtra L2R9zPQIAdk-00781-00233730-00234046 the question yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00782-00234048-00234358 it doesn't really have any somebody made L2R9zPQIAdk-00783-00234359-00234696 up that idea it's three and a half L2R9zPQIAdk-00784-00234698-00235096 and so that's fine we're doing cheese L2R9zPQIAdk-00785-00235098-00235319 thank you Maharaj thank you so much she L2R9zPQIAdk-00786-00235319-00235589 says you're right we have to replace the L2R9zPQIAdk-00787-00235590-00235919 desire otherwise if the seed of Desire L2R9zPQIAdk-00788-00235919-00236087 is there it's very difficult from L2R9zPQIAdk-00789-00236088-00236327 outside me it might look like we have L2R9zPQIAdk-00790-00236328-00236584 gotten rid of it but inside We crave so L2R9zPQIAdk-00791-00236585-00237041 yes you're good in this next uh suitable L2R9zPQIAdk-00792-00237042-00237298 Swami will definitely get really deep L2R9zPQIAdk-00793-00237300-00237544 into this particular discussion L2R9zPQIAdk-00794-00237546-00237742 in the beginning of the sixth cancer L2R9zPQIAdk-00795-00237744-00237977 which is coming up L2R9zPQIAdk-00796-00237978-00238315 because Mars prediction is overwhelmed L2R9zPQIAdk-00797-00238316-00238660 with uh compassion for people who are L2R9zPQIAdk-00798-00238661-00238823 suffering he's hearing about how bad L2R9zPQIAdk-00799-00238823-00239044 there's something what what can they do L2R9zPQIAdk-00800-00239046-00239231 to get relief L2R9zPQIAdk-00801-00239232-00239542 and then um the whole discussion L2R9zPQIAdk-00802-00239544-00239860 one of the verses that is you can't L2R9zPQIAdk-00803-00239861-00240341 you can purify a wine stained bottle by L2R9zPQIAdk-00804-00240342-00240479 wine L2R9zPQIAdk-00805-00240480-00240653 in other words L2R9zPQIAdk-00806-00240654-00240784 uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00807-00240785-00241313 if you put a bottle you can put a uh a L2R9zPQIAdk-00808-00241314-00241601 little put wine in the bottle and then L2R9zPQIAdk-00809-00241602-00241906 you dump it out the odor of the wine L2R9zPQIAdk-00810-00241907-00242267 stays within the bottle L2R9zPQIAdk-00811-00242267-00242471 so you have to have something really L2R9zPQIAdk-00812-00242471-00242675 powerful to get rid of that L2R9zPQIAdk-00813-00242676-00242958 and that has to be devotional service L2R9zPQIAdk-00814-00242959-00243346 yes only devotional service can uproot L2R9zPQIAdk-00815-00243348-00243671 to these deep rooted desires that should L2R9zPQIAdk-00816-00243671-00244006 situate with in the heart and are hidden L2R9zPQIAdk-00817-00244007-00244691 from one's visitable uh awareness L2R9zPQIAdk-00818-00244692-00244991 we don't even know how contaminated we L2R9zPQIAdk-00819-00244992-00245119 are L2R9zPQIAdk-00820-00245119-00245453 we think we're so we think we're so such L2R9zPQIAdk-00821-00245454-00245719 a nice person L2R9zPQIAdk-00822-00245719-00245969 I'm sure everybody out there is nice L2R9zPQIAdk-00823-00245969-00246089 better people L2R9zPQIAdk-00824-00246090-00246532 but there if when you you're put into a L2R9zPQIAdk-00825-00246533-00246821 different situation you'll see yours how L2R9zPQIAdk-00826-00246821-00247025 how nice you are L2R9zPQIAdk-00827-00247026-00247348 excellent L2R9zPQIAdk-00828-00247350-00247619 when you L2R9zPQIAdk-00829-00247619-00247984 so yeah and some these deep-rooted L2R9zPQIAdk-00830-00247985-00248489 desires are not seen but they're there L2R9zPQIAdk-00831-00248490-00248765 and they will manifest and if we don't L2R9zPQIAdk-00832-00248766-00249256 pull out the roots the the gross forms L2R9zPQIAdk-00833-00249257-00249521 of these Central activities will again L2R9zPQIAdk-00834-00249521-00249742 return L2R9zPQIAdk-00835-00249744-00250115 just like if you don't pull out the uh L2R9zPQIAdk-00836-00250116-00250423 the root of a weed L2R9zPQIAdk-00837-00250423-00251092 and the weed will again grow back L2R9zPQIAdk-00838-00251094-00251410 thank you Maharaja uh yes devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-00839-00251411-00251741 please go ahead and unmute yourself I L2R9zPQIAdk-00840-00251742-00251963 have Puja mataji mataji would you like L2R9zPQIAdk-00841-00251964-00252119 to go ahead and pose your question and L2R9zPQIAdk-00842-00252119-00252287 you can also turn your videos on L2R9zPQIAdk-00843-00252288-00253021 everybody L2R9zPQIAdk-00844-00253021-00253534 you have muted yourself Mata L2R9zPQIAdk-00845-00253535-00253996 Hare Krishna Maharaja L2R9zPQIAdk-00846-00253998-00254248 Merry Christmas L2R9zPQIAdk-00847-00254250-00254482 please accept my humble or business into L2R9zPQIAdk-00848-00254483-00254852 your Lotus feet L2R9zPQIAdk-00849-00254853-00255125 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00850-00255126-00255575 uh first of all uh Maharaj I just want L2R9zPQIAdk-00851-00255576-00255881 to correct myself if I am wrong L2R9zPQIAdk-00852-00255882-00256342 I used to recite damodara each and every L2R9zPQIAdk-00853-00256344-00256756 time while doing cooking or walking or L2R9zPQIAdk-00854-00256757-00257075 I mean most of the time I used to recite L2R9zPQIAdk-00855-00257076-00257296 them all the hours to come one day what L2R9zPQIAdk-00856-00257298-00257627 they asked me Maharaj some before some L2R9zPQIAdk-00857-00257628-00257908 time their kids and orphans because if L2R9zPQIAdk-00858-00257909-00258067 you decide L2R9zPQIAdk-00859-00258067-00258532 then you have to keep a lamp with you L2R9zPQIAdk-00860-00258533-00258996 always L2R9zPQIAdk-00861-00258996-00260791 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00862-00260792-00261173 prayers can be recited I mean there is L2R9zPQIAdk-00863-00261173-00261467 appropriate time that is also there L2R9zPQIAdk-00864-00261467-00261791 which is set up as far as as part of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00865-00261792-00261941 Puja L2R9zPQIAdk-00866-00261942-00262427 but we see that devotees after the one L2R9zPQIAdk-00867-00262428-00262555 month of L2R9zPQIAdk-00868-00262556-00262882 Dumbledore they become so attached to L2R9zPQIAdk-00869-00262883-00262979 that L2R9zPQIAdk-00870-00262980-00263387 prayer and so nice so sweet so loving so L2R9zPQIAdk-00871-00263388-00263501 devotional L2R9zPQIAdk-00872-00263502-00263747 that they want to sing it more L2R9zPQIAdk-00873-00263748-00264221 sing it as much as you can L2R9zPQIAdk-00874-00264222-00264451 it's wonderful L2R9zPQIAdk-00875-00264452-00264865 time whoever told you that L2R9zPQIAdk-00876-00264866-00265193 uh just tell them to go back and read L2R9zPQIAdk-00877-00265194-00265693 their books again L2R9zPQIAdk-00878-00265694-00266027 I replied him that the lamp is in my L2R9zPQIAdk-00879-00266028-00266387 heart and I I'm in L2R9zPQIAdk-00880-00266388-00266734 I I assume that I have a lamp in my hand L2R9zPQIAdk-00881-00266735-00267017 and I used to recite each and every time L2R9zPQIAdk-00882-00267018-00267430 now so it's uh it's a I mean I am very L2R9zPQIAdk-00883-00267431-00267634 much connected with damodar swarup L2R9zPQIAdk-00884-00267635-00267910 krishna's damodar suru so it's my L2R9zPQIAdk-00885-00267911-00268163 fantasy that I always recite some of the L2R9zPQIAdk-00886-00268164-00268403 rash to come it's my become a Happy L2R9zPQIAdk-00887-00268404-00268787 Hobby kind of hobby L2R9zPQIAdk-00888-00268788-00269267 that's your that's here yesterday L2R9zPQIAdk-00889-00269268-00269387 yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-00890-00269388-00269699 so who can tell you what what when you L2R9zPQIAdk-00891-00269700-00269860 should worship and when you should not L2R9zPQIAdk-00892-00269861-00270208 worry L2R9zPQIAdk-00893-00270209-00270521 yeah so those great people there they L2R9zPQIAdk-00894-00270522-00271121 don't know anything L2R9zPQIAdk-00895-00271122-00271810 English L2R9zPQIAdk-00896-00271811-00273030 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00897-00273031-00273664 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00898-00273665-00274257 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00899-00274258-00274787 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00900-00274788-00274977 um L2R9zPQIAdk-00901-00274978-00275747 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00902-00275748-00278047 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-00903-00278048-00278556 very nice that was very nice L2R9zPQIAdk-00904-00278557-00279149 very nice thank you L2R9zPQIAdk-00905-00279150-00279853 okay L2R9zPQIAdk-00906-00279854-00280079 would you like to go ahead pause your L2R9zPQIAdk-00907-00280080-00280560 question thank you very much L2R9zPQIAdk-00908-00280561-00280930 and I just want to confess myself that L2R9zPQIAdk-00909-00280931-00281105 you said that so many people you know L2R9zPQIAdk-00910-00281106-00281405 that they have fallen down I am one of L2R9zPQIAdk-00911-00281406-00281477 them L2R9zPQIAdk-00912-00281478-00281801 and sometimes I take solace in in L2R9zPQIAdk-00913-00281802-00283045 bhagavatam where it says L2R9zPQIAdk-00914-00283046-00283355 also said in sixth chapter yoga L2R9zPQIAdk-00915-00283356-00283441 challenge L2R9zPQIAdk-00916-00283442-00283805 so in my history also I have fallen so L2R9zPQIAdk-00917-00283806-00284099 many times but I have never left rupad's L2R9zPQIAdk-00918-00284100-00284434 shelter and continued chanting 16 rounds L2R9zPQIAdk-00919-00284435-00284753 like that but that does happen in my L2R9zPQIAdk-00920-00284754-00285077 life and maybe in others life also but I L2R9zPQIAdk-00921-00285078-00285280 just believe that Lord Krishna will L2R9zPQIAdk-00922-00285281-00285551 protect me give me further sadhu L2R9zPQIAdk-00923-00285552-00285997 Association and eventually take me out L2R9zPQIAdk-00924-00285998-00286306 is third class to fall down it's first L2R9zPQIAdk-00925-00286307-00286525 class to get back up L2R9zPQIAdk-00926-00286526-00286960 so when we fall I mean this material L2R9zPQIAdk-00927-00286961-00287243 world is designed for us to form that's L2R9zPQIAdk-00928-00287244-00287453 the way it is L2R9zPQIAdk-00929-00287454-00287687 so when we see that Maurice it takes L2R9zPQIAdk-00930-00287688-00287897 shelter of the Holy Name L2R9zPQIAdk-00931-00287898-00288055 pray to the Lord L2R9zPQIAdk-00932-00288056-00288455 forgiveness and get re-established in L2R9zPQIAdk-00933-00288456-00288671 our devotional activity L2R9zPQIAdk-00934-00288672-00288953 what prevents us from falling down is L2R9zPQIAdk-00935-00288954-00289210 good Association L2R9zPQIAdk-00936-00289211-00289517 we keep good association with devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-00937-00289518-00289858 strong Association that's that will give L2R9zPQIAdk-00938-00289859-00290134 us to support the inspiration to L2R9zPQIAdk-00939-00290135-00290680 continue on without any deviations L2R9zPQIAdk-00940-00290681-00290921 and that's why association with devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-00941-00290922-00291287 is the foundation for success and the L2R9zPQIAdk-00942-00291288-00291569 execution of Krishna consciousness L2R9zPQIAdk-00943-00291570-00292289 thank you very much L2R9zPQIAdk-00944-00292290-00292517 somebody had raised their hand for a L2R9zPQIAdk-00945-00292518-00292723 long time but I don't see your name L2R9zPQIAdk-00946-00292724-00292991 would you like to unmute yourself and L2R9zPQIAdk-00947-00292992-00293315 post some questions oh there now I see L2R9zPQIAdk-00948-00293316-00293545 you L2R9zPQIAdk-00949-00293546-00294684 foreign rules L2R9zPQIAdk-00950-00294685-00295037 gambling no way editing no so you know L2R9zPQIAdk-00951-00295038-00295210 like if it L2R9zPQIAdk-00952-00295211-00295565 like you know we go known devotees you L2R9zPQIAdk-00953-00295566-00295889 know so many you know mentally desires L2R9zPQIAdk-00954-00295890-00296008 come in our heart L2R9zPQIAdk-00955-00296009-00296393 so you know like how because like we we L2R9zPQIAdk-00956-00296394-00296705 go like out you know market and so many L2R9zPQIAdk-00957-00296706-00296945 places so how we like you know control L2R9zPQIAdk-00958-00296946-00297082 these things L2R9zPQIAdk-00959-00297083-00297371 because we know we can't we can't like L2R9zPQIAdk-00960-00297372-00297503 associate all the way all the time L2R9zPQIAdk-00961-00297504-00297695 devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-00962-00297696-00298091 well the strength that you need to L2R9zPQIAdk-00963-00298092-00298427 withstand The Temptations and the L2R9zPQIAdk-00964-00298428-00298649 distractions L2R9zPQIAdk-00965-00298650-00298906 because Maya will just distract our L2R9zPQIAdk-00966-00298907-00299201 attention away from Krishna the strength L2R9zPQIAdk-00967-00299202-00299519 you come this is your 16 rounds L2R9zPQIAdk-00968-00299520-00299867 if you keep very regular L2R9zPQIAdk-00969-00299868-00300239 early let's get you 60 rounds early L2R9zPQIAdk-00970-00300240-00300610 and then very carefully offer your food L2R9zPQIAdk-00971-00300611-00300784 and devotion L2R9zPQIAdk-00972-00300785-00301030 and read the books every day in other L2R9zPQIAdk-00973-00301031-00301271 words if your Saturday is regular and L2R9zPQIAdk-00974-00301272-00301408 it's good L2R9zPQIAdk-00975-00301409-00301756 you will not be perfected so much L2R9zPQIAdk-00976-00301757-00302069 by what goes on around you L2R9zPQIAdk-00977-00302070-00302365 in a negative way L2R9zPQIAdk-00978-00302366-00302699 and the other time if we find ourselves L2R9zPQIAdk-00979-00302700-00303047 being affected immediately call out to L2R9zPQIAdk-00980-00303048-00303353 Krishna for help Krishna save me Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-00981-00303354-00303503 bring me back to your L2R9zPQIAdk-00982-00303504-00303756 of this field L2R9zPQIAdk-00983-00303757-00304043 we can you know L2R9zPQIAdk-00984-00304044-00304403 if we feel like we're being weakened or L2R9zPQIAdk-00985-00304404-00304810 pulled by the external energy we should L2R9zPQIAdk-00986-00304811-00305119 just note that don't allow it to happen L2R9zPQIAdk-00987-00305120-00305327 and then L2R9zPQIAdk-00988-00305328-00305549 take shelter of Krishna and Krishna will L2R9zPQIAdk-00989-00305550-00305819 be there to protect you L2R9zPQIAdk-00990-00305820-00306167 krsna says I protect everyone according L2R9zPQIAdk-00991-00306168-00306671 to how much they come to me for shelter L2R9zPQIAdk-00992-00306672-00306953 those who fully surrender to Krishna he L2R9zPQIAdk-00993-00306954-00307180 gives them a hundred percent protection L2R9zPQIAdk-00994-00307181-00307523 those who surrender 90 he gives them L2R9zPQIAdk-00995-00307524-00307756 driving percent L2R9zPQIAdk-00996-00307757-00308093 because the the lack that we don't L2R9zPQIAdk-00997-00308094-00308363 surrender we are taking shelter or L2R9zPQIAdk-00998-00308364-00308608 something of the material world L2R9zPQIAdk-00999-00308609-00308891 and therefore L2R9zPQIAdk-01000-00308892-00309227 Krishna went well L2R9zPQIAdk-01001-00309228-00309454 not interfere with that he gives us our L2R9zPQIAdk-01002-00309455-00309923 choice but when we understand there's no L2R9zPQIAdk-01003-00309924-00310469 shelter in this world except Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-01004-00310470-00310739 and that shelter comes in the form of L2R9zPQIAdk-01005-00310740-00310925 Christmas morning L2R9zPQIAdk-01006-00310926-00311179 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-01007-00311180-00311525 so remember Krishna as much as possible L2R9zPQIAdk-01008-00311526-00311791 and keep Goods out enough L2R9zPQIAdk-01009-00311792-00312034 and it's very unlikely you'll be L2R9zPQIAdk-01010-00312035-00312527 affected by the external environment L2R9zPQIAdk-01011-00312528-00312773 thank you Mirage L2R9zPQIAdk-01012-00312774-00313129 thank you L2R9zPQIAdk-01013-00313130-00313349 madhavi mataji did you have any L2R9zPQIAdk-01014-00313350-00313837 questions L2R9zPQIAdk-01015-00313838-00314665 probably you are muted L2R9zPQIAdk-01016-00314666-00315060 it's better L2R9zPQIAdk-01017-00315061-00315527 to your Lotus feet all goes to shilabad L2R9zPQIAdk-01018-00315528-00315941 um my question is regarding uh uh the L2R9zPQIAdk-01019-00315942-00316282 time of initiation Guru takes disciples L2R9zPQIAdk-01020-00316283-00316469 Karma L2R9zPQIAdk-01021-00316470-00316703 now I am a little bit confused so I read L2R9zPQIAdk-01022-00316704-00316854 what Jai L2R9zPQIAdk-01023-00316855-00317189 says here and then we discussed L2R9zPQIAdk-01024-00317190-00317554 he says last but not least I am taking L2R9zPQIAdk-01025-00317555-00317867 your karma at the time of initiation and L2R9zPQIAdk-01026-00317868-00318245 if you don't avoid these 10 offenses and L2R9zPQIAdk-01027-00318246-00318521 don't avoid breaking the principles then L2R9zPQIAdk-01028-00318522-00318743 I suffer L2R9zPQIAdk-01029-00318744-00318977 upad used to call this L2R9zPQIAdk-01030-00318978-00319504 uh non-conformist disciples means a guru L2R9zPQIAdk-01031-00319505-00319691 drawee L2R9zPQIAdk-01032-00319692-00320032 which means the killer of the guru I L2R9zPQIAdk-01033-00320033-00320273 want to help you so please avoid L2R9zPQIAdk-01034-00320274-00320591 breaking the principles so my question L2R9zPQIAdk-01035-00320592-00320695 is L2R9zPQIAdk-01036-00320696-00321071 Guru takes Karma time of disciple time L2R9zPQIAdk-01037-00321072-00321415 of initiation disciples Karma L2R9zPQIAdk-01038-00321416-00321701 Karma and then future Karma as well L2R9zPQIAdk-01039-00321702-00321923 because according to this L2R9zPQIAdk-01040-00321924-00322156 Maharaja says if you don't L2R9zPQIAdk-01041-00322157-00322397 uh for follow this or if you don't avoid L2R9zPQIAdk-01042-00322398-00322595 these then I suffer L2R9zPQIAdk-01043-00322596-00323017 yeah you have your choice L2R9zPQIAdk-01044-00323018-00323310 surrender means at moment to moment L2R9zPQIAdk-01045-00323311-00323693 although you make a vow to surrender and L2R9zPQIAdk-01046-00323694-00323904 follow these principles that initiation L2R9zPQIAdk-01047-00323905-00324184 is that then you don't just stop there L2R9zPQIAdk-01048-00324185-00324637 that means ongoing every minute L2R9zPQIAdk-01049-00324638-00324930 gives an elaborate explanation that L2R9zPQIAdk-01050-00324931-00325223 initiation is an ongoing process it's L2R9zPQIAdk-01051-00325224-00325553 not just the formal ceremony that L2R9zPQIAdk-01052-00325554-00325727 happens once and then you're initiated L2R9zPQIAdk-01053-00325728-00325882 and you're okay no L2R9zPQIAdk-01054-00325883-00326001 okay L2R9zPQIAdk-01055-00326002-00326123 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-01056-00326124-00326429 you just you just set up the contract at L2R9zPQIAdk-01057-00326430-00326584 that time now you have to follow the L2R9zPQIAdk-01058-00326585-00326921 contract L2R9zPQIAdk-01059-00326922-00327304 some module my understanding is that L2R9zPQIAdk-01060-00327305-00327708 after the initiation when a disciple L2R9zPQIAdk-01061-00327709-00328139 makes uh offenses and don't break this L2R9zPQIAdk-01062-00328140-00328553 uh rules and regulation I mean what has L2R9zPQIAdk-01063-00328554-00328925 they promised to Guru uh they do suffer L2R9zPQIAdk-01064-00328926-00329165 if they make sinful activities or L2R9zPQIAdk-01065-00329166-00329573 practice rules but does the guru suffer L2R9zPQIAdk-01066-00329574-00329819 the same that's the question is coming L2R9zPQIAdk-01067-00329820-00330071 up so much there's two verses that L2R9zPQIAdk-01068-00330072-00330353 brought by comments in the in one in the L2R9zPQIAdk-01069-00330354-00330508 eighth cancer and one in the ninth L2R9zPQIAdk-01070-00330509-00330697 cancer L2R9zPQIAdk-01071-00330698-00331019 that due to the sinful activities of the L2R9zPQIAdk-01072-00331020-00331282 disciples the spiritual Master will have L2R9zPQIAdk-01073-00331283-00331582 to see bad dreams L2R9zPQIAdk-01074-00331583-00331895 that's one and the other one too is that L2R9zPQIAdk-01075-00331896-00332134 the spiritual Master will undergo some L2R9zPQIAdk-01076-00332135-00332356 sickness L2R9zPQIAdk-01077-00332357-00332603 so you'll see a lot of our senior L2R9zPQIAdk-01078-00332604-00332741 uh L2R9zPQIAdk-01079-00332742-00333095 devotees get sick why because of sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-01080-00333096-00333480 activities or the disciples L2R9zPQIAdk-01081-00333481-00333893 yeah so um yeah that's the suffering L2R9zPQIAdk-01082-00333894-00334199 spiritual Master doesn't fall down L2R9zPQIAdk-01083-00334200-00334475 because he's fixed in his spiritual life L2R9zPQIAdk-01084-00334476-00334691 but he has to undergo some mental or L2R9zPQIAdk-01085-00334692-00334865 physical difficulties L2R9zPQIAdk-01086-00334866-00335329 because he's carrying a sinful disciple L2R9zPQIAdk-01087-00335330-00335519 therefore L2R9zPQIAdk-01088-00335520-00335765 it says that if a spiritual Master L2R9zPQIAdk-01089-00335766-00336089 carries a sinful disciple then after L2R9zPQIAdk-01090-00336090-00336395 some time they both go to hell L2R9zPQIAdk-01091-00336396-00336719 that's also in the scriptures but then L2R9zPQIAdk-01092-00336720-00336984 again when we talk about it L2R9zPQIAdk-01093-00336985-00337349 proud was very compassionate that he L2R9zPQIAdk-01094-00337350-00337595 even though people were sinful L2R9zPQIAdk-01095-00337596-00337949 he gave them many chances to come back L2R9zPQIAdk-01096-00337950-00338195 but at the same time always encouraged L2R9zPQIAdk-01097-00338196-00338537 them to come back to the standard too L2R9zPQIAdk-01098-00338538-00338782 and give up you know L2R9zPQIAdk-01099-00338783-00338934 so L2R9zPQIAdk-01100-00338935-00339317 when we take our initiation vows these L2R9zPQIAdk-01101-00339318-00339695 are not promises a promise sometimes is L2R9zPQIAdk-01102-00339696-00339925 is allowed to be broken under L2R9zPQIAdk-01103-00339926-00340175 circumstance but a vow can never be L2R9zPQIAdk-01104-00340176-00340330 broken L2R9zPQIAdk-01105-00340331-00340775 the vowel is like an iron-fisted promise L2R9zPQIAdk-01106-00340776-00341008 that it cannot be broken under any L2R9zPQIAdk-01107-00341009-00341243 circumstance L2R9zPQIAdk-01108-00341244-00341549 so there's no reason why one should L2R9zPQIAdk-01109-00341550-00341884 again take up sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-01110-00341885-00342071 that means they're not following the L2R9zPQIAdk-01111-00342072-00342377 process the process will protect you L2R9zPQIAdk-01112-00342378-00343006 good sadhana nice Association follow L2R9zPQIAdk-01113-00343007-00343301 if you don't you if you are being L2R9zPQIAdk-01114-00343302-00343619 victimized by these sinful activities L2R9zPQIAdk-01115-00343620-00343871 and you're not taking association with L2R9zPQIAdk-01116-00343872-00344297 senior devotees going to the programs or L2R9zPQIAdk-01117-00344298-00344569 chanting around what can you expect L2R9zPQIAdk-01118-00344570-00344819 you will fall down you will commit L2R9zPQIAdk-01119-00344820-00344980 sinful activity L2R9zPQIAdk-01120-00344981-00345119 yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-01121-00345120-00345307 Maya is very strong L2R9zPQIAdk-01122-00345308-00345653 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-01123-00345654-00345767 yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-01124-00345768-00346163 yeah I also warned us he said he said he L2R9zPQIAdk-01125-00346164-00346451 said this specifically he said the L2R9zPQIAdk-01126-00346452-00346721 problem at your Western disciples L2R9zPQIAdk-01127-00346722-00347032 is that you don't fear Maya enough L2R9zPQIAdk-01128-00347033-00347303 so one has to develop a healthy fear of L2R9zPQIAdk-01129-00347304-00347645 Maya just like if you are L2R9zPQIAdk-01130-00347646-00347932 if you're walking across an icy L2R9zPQIAdk-01131-00347933-00348191 the sidewalk you have to be really L2R9zPQIAdk-01132-00348192-00348491 careful because you might slip and fall L2R9zPQIAdk-01133-00348492-00348682 and hurt yourself bad L2R9zPQIAdk-01134-00348683-00348906 so you take caught you take precautions L2R9zPQIAdk-01135-00348907-00349204 when you're crossing a busy intersection L2R9zPQIAdk-01136-00349205-00349408 with a lot of traffic you take L2R9zPQIAdk-01137-00349409-00349667 precautions L2R9zPQIAdk-01138-00349668-00350087 so yeah so we take precautions a lot and L2R9zPQIAdk-01139-00350088-00350332 different things we do so we have to be L2R9zPQIAdk-01140-00350333-00350471 very cautious L2R9zPQIAdk-01141-00350472-00350843 not to again get caught by the material L2R9zPQIAdk-01142-00350844-00351047 energy L2R9zPQIAdk-01143-00351048-00351245 and that means stay in connection with L2R9zPQIAdk-01144-00351246-00351667 Krishna don't forget Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-01145-00351668-00351958 thank you very much it's more clarified L2R9zPQIAdk-01146-00351959-00352201 now L2R9zPQIAdk-01147-00352202-00352577 thank you Maharaja we have some L2R9zPQIAdk-01148-00352578-00352906 wonderful reflection one of them is from L2R9zPQIAdk-01149-00352907-00353158 rishwa prabhuji he writes Hari Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-01150-00353159-00353441 dear gurudev great points because of the L2R9zPQIAdk-01151-00353442-00353723 sinful souls coming to Earth the whole L2R9zPQIAdk-01152-00353724-00354041 world is very sinful and it is no wonder L2R9zPQIAdk-01153-00354042-00354299 that the whole world is going to a big L2R9zPQIAdk-01154-00354300-00354563 world cleaning I was thinking no matter L2R9zPQIAdk-01155-00354564-00354827 how degraded the souls are because of L2R9zPQIAdk-01156-00354828-00355049 the Hare Krishna movement they can make L2R9zPQIAdk-01157-00355050-00355289 make their life perfect L2R9zPQIAdk-01158-00355290-00355595 wonderful comment purple that's true L2R9zPQIAdk-01159-00355596-00355715 yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-01160-00355716-00355901 if there wasn't the Hare Krishna L2R9zPQIAdk-01161-00355902-00356056 movement L2R9zPQIAdk-01162-00356057-00356417 you were you would do this and this this L2R9zPQIAdk-01163-00356418-00356639 Earth planet would be in totala local L2R9zPQIAdk-01164-00356640-00356993 right now L2R9zPQIAdk-01165-00356994-00357358 I have um some Reflection from devanand L2R9zPQIAdk-01166-00357359-00357751 um Pandit prabhuji he says L2R9zPQIAdk-01167-00357752-00358025 the dear Guru Maharaja please accept my L2R9zPQIAdk-01168-00358026-00358247 humble abusances please allow me to L2R9zPQIAdk-01169-00358248-00358456 share my personal realization regarding L2R9zPQIAdk-01170-00358457-00358763 the issue issue of damodarashtag the L2R9zPQIAdk-01171-00358764-00359032 year before last on Karthik we along L2R9zPQIAdk-01172-00359033-00359284 with several devotees joined in a Viber L2R9zPQIAdk-01173-00359285-00359543 group to chant extra rounds every day L2R9zPQIAdk-01174-00359544-00359765 for the spiritual well-being of one of L2R9zPQIAdk-01175-00359766-00360041 the devotees and we still keep this vow L2R9zPQIAdk-01176-00360042-00360275 which we made in the month of Karthik L2R9zPQIAdk-01177-00360276-00360604 with great enthusiasm damodarashtek is L2R9zPQIAdk-01178-00360605-00360827 also my favorite pageant which I listen L2R9zPQIAdk-01179-00360828-00361151 to often and with great pleasure your L2R9zPQIAdk-01180-00361152-00361469 servant Divan and Pandit Prabhu thank L2R9zPQIAdk-01181-00361470-00361601 you L2R9zPQIAdk-01182-00361602-00361739 okay L2R9zPQIAdk-01183-00361740-00362069 very nice devotees if anybody would like L2R9zPQIAdk-01184-00362070-00362404 to share your realization any comments L2R9zPQIAdk-01185-00362405-00362651 or any questions Maharaja is still here L2R9zPQIAdk-01186-00362652-00362923 with us please go ahead unmute yourself L2R9zPQIAdk-01187-00362924-00363856 and don't hesitate to ask your questions L2R9zPQIAdk-01188-00363857-00364097 thank you so much for the very L2R9zPQIAdk-01189-00364098-00364363 enlightening class and very eye-opening L2R9zPQIAdk-01190-00364364-00364715 uh nowadays you know the society is L2R9zPQIAdk-01191-00364716-00364858 going in L2R9zPQIAdk-01192-00364859-00365171 which direction we don't know even in L2R9zPQIAdk-01193-00365172-00365513 India India is like you know fallen so L2R9zPQIAdk-01194-00365514-00365891 much the people like you know they think L2R9zPQIAdk-01195-00365892-00366328 uh we uh we became modern and they eat L2R9zPQIAdk-01196-00366329-00366641 meat and intoxication and they don't L2R9zPQIAdk-01197-00366642-00366989 mind doing the Affiliates okay L2R9zPQIAdk-01198-00366990-00367325 like that before they used to hide it L2R9zPQIAdk-01199-00367326-00367495 now they do it L2R9zPQIAdk-01200-00367496-00367960 openly yeah and girls they wear clothes L2R9zPQIAdk-01201-00367961-00368695 like western clothes it's very common L2R9zPQIAdk-01202-00368696-00368897 even like L2R9zPQIAdk-01203-00368898-00369065 in India L2R9zPQIAdk-01204-00369066-00369358 people won't commit this the central L2R9zPQIAdk-01205-00369359-00369689 activities of eating me in public but L2R9zPQIAdk-01206-00369690-00369904 they'll go to a restaurant just to try L2R9zPQIAdk-01207-00369905-00370373 it out yeah yeah but nowadays in this L2R9zPQIAdk-01208-00370374-00370649 beef shops are opening up and L2R9zPQIAdk-01209-00370650-00371087 places of you know alcohol and Melissa L2R9zPQIAdk-01210-00371088-00371303 they're following the West completely L2R9zPQIAdk-01211-00371304-00371680 and the West is is the society in the L2R9zPQIAdk-01212-00371681-00371843 west is crumbling L2R9zPQIAdk-01213-00371844-00372355 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-01214-00372356-00372625 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-01215-00372626-00372965 by the atmosphere L2R9zPQIAdk-01216-00372966-00373204 yeah but one good thing is like Hare L2R9zPQIAdk-01217-00373205-00373463 Krishna moment is also growing L2R9zPQIAdk-01218-00373464-00373751 in India you see you know I was there in L2R9zPQIAdk-01219-00373752-00373967 nscc Pune L2R9zPQIAdk-01220-00373968-00374249 and lots of lot of people are coming L2R9zPQIAdk-01221-00374250-00374567 every day and visiting temples really L2R9zPQIAdk-01222-00374568-00374854 great nice exercise L2R9zPQIAdk-01223-00374855-00375197 yeah the word taked on his movement is L2R9zPQIAdk-01224-00375198-00375617 growing and the demons are also side by L2R9zPQIAdk-01225-00375618-00375780 side L2R9zPQIAdk-01226-00375781-00376097 that colony is becoming clearer and L2R9zPQIAdk-01227-00376098-00376201 clearer L2R9zPQIAdk-01228-00376202-00376445 the Middle Road where people were L2R9zPQIAdk-01229-00376446-00376739 somewhat Pious or somewhat combination L2R9zPQIAdk-01230-00376740-00377141 of bias and implies is now being reduced L2R9zPQIAdk-01231-00377142-00377339 and people are moving either L2R9zPQIAdk-01232-00377340-00377608 towards spirituality L2R9zPQIAdk-01233-00377609-00378028 and better better higher material L2R9zPQIAdk-01234-00378029-00378251 principles or they're going L2R9zPQIAdk-01235-00378252-00378706 following the Demonic waves L2R9zPQIAdk-01236-00378707-00379054 yeah so there will be a a crisis coming L2R9zPQIAdk-01237-00379055-00379432 up I mean it's already happening L2R9zPQIAdk-01238-00379433-00379780 and uh I don't want to be a doomsday L2R9zPQIAdk-01239-00379781-00379937 Prophet but L2R9zPQIAdk-01240-00379938-00380201 hang on for the next couple years you're L2R9zPQIAdk-01241-00380202-00380671 going to see some really heavy times L2R9zPQIAdk-01242-00380672-00381017 so unless we get real serious in our L2R9zPQIAdk-01243-00381018-00381251 commissioner Consciousness Republic said L2R9zPQIAdk-01244-00381252-00381582 we're going to be victimized also Ryan L2R9zPQIAdk-01245-00381583-00381910 foreign don't think that now because L2R9zPQIAdk-01246-00381911-00382163 things got a little better for a while L2R9zPQIAdk-01247-00382164-00382415 it's going to get better L2R9zPQIAdk-01248-00382416-00382606 forget that that's L2R9zPQIAdk-01249-00382607-00382871 this is just an intern period for the L2R9zPQIAdk-01250-00382872-00383260 next stage of oppressions that's coming L2R9zPQIAdk-01251-00383261-00383728 from different societies L2R9zPQIAdk-01252-00383729-00383956 you'll see it it'll start happening in L2R9zPQIAdk-01253-00383957-00384689 the in the fall season L2R9zPQIAdk-01254-00384690-00384989 but anyway Krishna Kansas that's why we L2R9zPQIAdk-01255-00384990-00385247 need more association with devotees we L2R9zPQIAdk-01256-00385248-00385439 need more programs L2R9zPQIAdk-01257-00385440-00385984 or hiring arms more book distributions L2R9zPQIAdk-01258-00385985-00386704 preaching L2R9zPQIAdk-01259-00386705-00386945 and I'll read something that probably L2R9zPQIAdk-01260-00386946-00387149 wrote L2R9zPQIAdk-01261-00387150-00387508 I mean he wrote he wrote this L2R9zPQIAdk-01262-00387509-00387697 he spoke this L2R9zPQIAdk-01263-00387698-00388439 in May 30th 1966. L2R9zPQIAdk-01264-00388440-00388697 listen to this carefully L2R9zPQIAdk-01265-00388698-00389034 Whenever there is unwanted population L2R9zPQIAdk-01266-00389035-00389393 these three things will naturally L2R9zPQIAdk-01267-00389394-00389530 occur L2R9zPQIAdk-01268-00389531-00389934 by Nature's course will appear famine L2R9zPQIAdk-01269-00389935-00390245 pestilence and War and the population L2R9zPQIAdk-01270-00390246-00390508 will be finished L2R9zPQIAdk-01271-00390509-00390815 there was some unpopulate some unwanted L2R9zPQIAdk-01272-00390816-00391060 population at the time also for which L2R9zPQIAdk-01273-00391061-00391493 Krishna arranged the war the battlefield L2R9zPQIAdk-01274-00391494-00391739 would be one very good population very L2R9zPQIAdk-01275-00391740-00391973 good generation then we have to follow L2R9zPQIAdk-01276-00391974-00392584 the principles as part of the units L2R9zPQIAdk-01277-00392585-00392747 so L2R9zPQIAdk-01278-00392748-00393034 so material nature is cleaning house now L2R9zPQIAdk-01279-00393035-00393203 getting rid of the simple population L2R9zPQIAdk-01280-00393204-00394128 yeah L2R9zPQIAdk-01281-00394129-00394391 sometimes devotees are also getting L2R9zPQIAdk-01282-00394392-00394613 affected by the L2R9zPQIAdk-01283-00394614-00394925 all these Fighters and everything L2R9zPQIAdk-01284-00394926-00395087 they have they have to protect L2R9zPQIAdk-01285-00395088-00395321 themselves L2R9zPQIAdk-01286-00395322-00395519 if you're in a if you're a doctor and L2R9zPQIAdk-01287-00395520-00395693 you're in the hospital trying to treat L2R9zPQIAdk-01288-00395694-00395915 the patients if you don't take L2R9zPQIAdk-01289-00395916-00396173 upper care you can also get sick like L2R9zPQIAdk-01290-00396174-00397091 the patients L2R9zPQIAdk-01291-00397092-00397378 keep good Association and keep good some L2R9zPQIAdk-01292-00397379-00397577 good solid enough L2R9zPQIAdk-01293-00397578-00397901 don't neglect your son enough L2R9zPQIAdk-01294-00397902-00398165 because of convenience or because it's L2R9zPQIAdk-01295-00398166-00398573 inconvenience L2R9zPQIAdk-01296-00398574-00399017 that's what will give us the protection L2R9zPQIAdk-01297-00399018-00399389 is holy name and association with L2R9zPQIAdk-01298-00399390-00400217 belongings L2R9zPQIAdk-01299-00400218-00400582 thank you Maharaj for your Association L2R9zPQIAdk-01300-00400583-00400810 guys L2R9zPQIAdk-01301-00400811-00401401 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-01302-00401402-00402275 the preaching in North Carolina no L2R9zPQIAdk-01303-00402276-00402515 having devotees come together every day L2R9zPQIAdk-01304-00402516-00402815 and discuss srimad-bhagwatan L2R9zPQIAdk-01305-00402816-00403417 Master praise L2R9zPQIAdk-01306-00403418-00403837 the King L2R9zPQIAdk-01307-00403838-00404147 Swami explains the importance of regular L2R9zPQIAdk-01308-00404148-00404291 hearing L2R9zPQIAdk-01309-00404292-00404704 foreign L2R9zPQIAdk-01310-00404705-00405023 it's one of the five most important L2R9zPQIAdk-01311-00405024-00405365 activities and devotional service there L2R9zPQIAdk-01312-00405366-00405701 are five hungas which are outstanding L2R9zPQIAdk-01313-00405702-00405906 chanting the holy names of the Lord L2R9zPQIAdk-01314-00405907-00406234 worshiping the Lord and his deity form L2R9zPQIAdk-01315-00406235-00406367 hearing L2R9zPQIAdk-01316-00406368-00406606 in srimad-bhagavatam L2R9zPQIAdk-01317-00406607-00406973 associating with devotees and living in L2R9zPQIAdk-01318-00406974-00407225 a holy place L2R9zPQIAdk-01319-00407226-00407508 these are the five most powerful L2R9zPQIAdk-01320-00407509-00408227 activities in devotions L2R9zPQIAdk-01321-00408228-00409030 Bible time is mentioned there L2R9zPQIAdk-01322-00409031-00409241 I would come and you'll get everything L2R9zPQIAdk-01323-00409242-00409607 from Tremont everything you want to know L2R9zPQIAdk-01324-00409608-00409972 every everything you want to L2R9zPQIAdk-01325-00409973-00410093 um L2R9zPQIAdk-01326-00410093-00410309 apply in your creation of Consciousness L2R9zPQIAdk-01327-00410310-00411241 everything is there L2R9zPQIAdk-01328-00411242-00411616 wonderful Maharaja anyway it's a great L2R9zPQIAdk-01329-00411617-00411828 service every day I have L2R9zPQIAdk-01330-00411829-00412013 srimad-bhagavatam class L2R9zPQIAdk-01331-00412014-00412607 continue to do that L2R9zPQIAdk-01332-00412608-00412924 so many everybody will be benefited L2R9zPQIAdk-01333-00412925-00413495 [Music] L2R9zPQIAdk-01334-00413496-00413705 in the words of the scriptures the words L2R9zPQIAdk-01335-00413706-00413945 of the guru are so powerful that even if L2R9zPQIAdk-01336-00413946-00414137 you don't understand them L2R9zPQIAdk-01337-00414138-00414403 you get the benefits L2R9zPQIAdk-01338-00414404-00415991 simply by hearing L2R9zPQIAdk-01339-00415992-00416941 wonderful wonderful wonderful L2R9zPQIAdk-01340-00416942-00417239 I was in India you all are taking care L2R9zPQIAdk-01341-00417239-00417330 of L2R9zPQIAdk-01342-00417331-00417487 this L2R9zPQIAdk-01343-00417488-00417857 so nicely thank you so much truly a L2R9zPQIAdk-01344-00417858-00418084 great platform to bring all the devotees L2R9zPQIAdk-01345-00418085-00418318 every morning this is a great service L2R9zPQIAdk-01346-00418319-00418570 thanks to all the matajis and of course L2R9zPQIAdk-01347-00418571-00418828 Maharaja for your very very valuable L2R9zPQIAdk-01348-00418829-00419080 Association hope will be able to L2R9zPQIAdk-01349-00419081-00419320 take some of your mercy and apply in our L2R9zPQIAdk-01350-00419321-00419641 life with its actions L2R9zPQIAdk-01351-00419642-00420245 mercy upon us yes for sure L2R9zPQIAdk-01352-00420246-00420563 actually coming in spite of all your uh L2R9zPQIAdk-01353-00420564-00420725 busy schedules and so many L2R9zPQIAdk-01354-00420726-00420887 responsibilities L2R9zPQIAdk-01355-00420888-00421205 so we are very thankful to you for your L2R9zPQIAdk-01356-00421206-00421720 Association that's very very elevating L2R9zPQIAdk-01357-00421721-00422177 any last minute question L2R9zPQIAdk-01358-00422178-00422407 felt that has given us a treasure house L2R9zPQIAdk-01359-00422408-00422770 yes we have to Simply L2R9zPQIAdk-01360-00422771-00423293 take advantage of it and share it L2R9zPQIAdk-01361-00423293-00424072 taking advantage of it means to share it L2R9zPQIAdk-01362-00424073-00424360 uh last minute L2R9zPQIAdk-01363-00424362-00424660 yes L2R9zPQIAdk-01364-00424662-00424975 so despite all our Falls and everything L2R9zPQIAdk-01365-00424976-00425609 I always remember Lord Krishna says L2R9zPQIAdk-01366-00425610-00425825 so whatever little I have done Lord L2R9zPQIAdk-01367-00425826-00426029 Krishna will be merciful and give me L2R9zPQIAdk-01368-00426030-00426299 more chances and eventually it take me L2R9zPQIAdk-01369-00426300-00426613 to his service that's what I feel L2R9zPQIAdk-01370-00426614-00427607 thank you for your message L2R9zPQIAdk-01371-00427608-00427960 thank you you can't fail if you stay L2R9zPQIAdk-01372-00427962-00428159 in this classes L2R9zPQIAdk-01373-00428160-00428770 let's continue L2R9zPQIAdk-01374-00428771-00429172 we're located playing Madonna honey L2R9zPQIAdk-01375-00429173-00429472 this is this process is coming from the L2R9zPQIAdk-01376-00429473-00429653 spiritual world L2R9zPQIAdk-01377-00429654-00430397 it's not man-made L2R9zPQIAdk-01378-00430397-00430709 we must saw your enthusiastic dance L2R9zPQIAdk-01379-00430710-00430966 Maharaja every time we come we are all L2R9zPQIAdk-01380-00430967-00431183 sitting and doing kirtan and there you L2R9zPQIAdk-01381-00431184-00431393 are the oldest of all L2R9zPQIAdk-01382-00431393-00431718 dancing and L2R9zPQIAdk-01383-00431719-00431975 if everything goes according to plan L2R9zPQIAdk-01384-00431976-00432268 I'll be seeing you very soon L2R9zPQIAdk-01385-00432269-00432587 thank you so much L2R9zPQIAdk-01386-00432588-00432970 let's see if Krishna allows me to get to L2R9zPQIAdk-01387-00432971-00433522 Toronto L2R9zPQIAdk-01388-00433523-00434368 we are praying for that marriage L2R9zPQIAdk-01389-00434369-00435043 okay L2R9zPQIAdk-01390-00435043-00435364 on the call and giving such a valuable L2R9zPQIAdk-01391-00435365-00435610 information every time you come it's L2R9zPQIAdk-01392-00435612-00435953 really a amazing class we get uh so very L2R9zPQIAdk-01393-00435954-00436181 much realizations we get from your class L2R9zPQIAdk-01394-00436182-00436614 and uh today especially uh L2R9zPQIAdk-01395-00436615-00436877 was really a special for us thank you so L2R9zPQIAdk-01396-00436878-00437177 much for that and I remember last time I L2R9zPQIAdk-01397-00437178-00437357 think a long time before maybe two three L2R9zPQIAdk-01398-00437358-00437603 months before we chanted together so L2R9zPQIAdk-01399-00437604-00437801 that was also really wonderful thank you L2R9zPQIAdk-01400-00437802-00437983 so much L2R9zPQIAdk-01401-00437984-00438401 thank you thank you for your very sweet L2R9zPQIAdk-01402-00438402-00438733 words L2R9zPQIAdk-01403-00438734-00439202 they still businesses too much L37FwOVdOQU-00000-00000070-00000569 [Music] L37FwOVdOQU-00001-00000570-00000797 welcome back everybody our next guest L37FwOVdOQU-00002-00000798-00000989 well he's the latest announced candidate L37FwOVdOQU-00003-00000990-00001133 for president of the United States and L37FwOVdOQU-00004-00001134-00001253 he'll be attempting to secure the L37FwOVdOQU-00005-00001254-00001420 Republican nomination next year Dr L37FwOVdOQU-00006-00001421-00001739 Roland Roberts has an America 2.0 one L37FwOVdOQU-00007-00001739-00001930 nation under God planet he talks with us L37FwOVdOQU-00008-00001932-00002147 with us about it right now Dr Roberts L37FwOVdOQU-00009-00002148-00002434 great to have you on the show L37FwOVdOQU-00010-00002435-00002639 thank you it's great to be with you John L37FwOVdOQU-00011-00002640-00002849 this is an exciting moment for anyone L37FwOVdOQU-00012-00002850-00003034 that puts their hat into the ring you've L37FwOVdOQU-00013-00003035-00003226 got some big Ideas a lot of people are L37FwOVdOQU-00014-00003227-00003497 talking about the big ideas in your sort L37FwOVdOQU-00015-00003497-00003640 of your platform tell us a few of the L37FwOVdOQU-00016-00003642-00003749 things that you've got there starting L37FwOVdOQU-00017-00003750-00004001 with the tiered flat tax system L37FwOVdOQU-00018-00004002-00004181 certainly well first of all a lot of the L37FwOVdOQU-00019-00004182-00004336 Republican platform has not resonated L37FwOVdOQU-00020-00004337-00004511 with the popular vote as you know for L37FwOVdOQU-00021-00004512-00004870 the last 20 30 years and uh so I'm not L37FwOVdOQU-00022-00004871-00005056 running on the same issues that everyone L37FwOVdOQU-00023-00005057-00005315 else has with kind of retreading a lot L37FwOVdOQU-00024-00005316-00005549 of the same conversations I'm running on L37FwOVdOQU-00025-00005550-00005806 a vision for 22nd century America when L37FwOVdOQU-00026-00005807-00006106 my son is born July 20 July 2nd of this L37FwOVdOQU-00027-00006107-00006425 year my first son uh God willing he'll L37FwOVdOQU-00028-00006426-00006628 live to see the 22nd century he would be L37FwOVdOQU-00029-00006629-00006977 77 years old in 2100 and I went in L37FwOVdOQU-00030-00006978-00007163 America for our kids and our L37FwOVdOQU-00031-00007164-00007355 grandchildren this is not some far-off L37FwOVdOQU-00032-00007356-00007684 thing the 22nd century is upon us so the L37FwOVdOQU-00033-00007686-00007996 tech tiered flat tax system that I'm L37FwOVdOQU-00034-00007997-00008219 proposing is not something new it's been L37FwOVdOQU-00035-00008220-00008387 around for years but I think there's a L37FwOVdOQU-00036-00008388-00008669 right way to do it it helps save 75 L37FwOVdOQU-00037-00008670-00008801 million Americans will no longer pay L37FwOVdOQU-00038-00008802-00009091 federal income tax uh no Social Security L37FwOVdOQU-00039-00009092-00009437 checks would be taxed uh and with a flat L37FwOVdOQU-00040-00009438-00009683 corporate tax it actually allows for L37FwOVdOQU-00041-00009684-00009863 much of our debt to start being paid off L37FwOVdOQU-00042-00009864-00010049 and of course the goal is not just to L37FwOVdOQU-00043-00010050-00010246 balance the budget and if and reduce the L37FwOVdOQU-00044-00010247-00010451 deficit but to eliminate our national L37FwOVdOQU-00045-00010452-00010717 debt L37FwOVdOQU-00046-00010718-00011045 I love that and what was the Ides of L37FwOVdOQU-00047-00011046-00011171 March which means that we're officially L37FwOVdOQU-00048-00011172-00011399 a month out from tax day so I think a L37FwOVdOQU-00049-00011400-00011627 lot of people are really uh excited to L37FwOVdOQU-00050-00011628-00011860 hear something like that Dr Roberts L37FwOVdOQU-00051-00011861-00012095 there you know the Republican party has L37FwOVdOQU-00052-00012096-00012281 kind of moved in a New Direction it's L37FwOVdOQU-00053-00012282-00012574 it's an America First Maga agenda from L37FwOVdOQU-00054-00012575-00012844 president Trump's tenure uh from 2016 to L37FwOVdOQU-00055-00012845-00013147 2020. there are a few uniform ideas L37FwOVdOQU-00056-00013147-00013403 obviously border security fiscal L37FwOVdOQU-00057-00013404-00013594 responsibility actual fiscal L37FwOVdOQU-00058-00013595-00013751 responsibility not just throwing it up L37FwOVdOQU-00059-00013752-00013930 on the Marquee and hoping that it sticks L37FwOVdOQU-00060-00013931-00014213 what differentiates you from the other L37FwOVdOQU-00061-00014213-00014530 folks who have declared L37FwOVdOQU-00062-00014531-00014807 yeah yeah look they're all in the same L37FwOVdOQU-00063-00014808-00015149 ilk they're all of the same uh ideology L37FwOVdOQU-00064-00015150-00015322 and come from the same schools and come L37FwOVdOQU-00065-00015323-00015533 from the same cloth they're all former L37FwOVdOQU-00066-00015534-00015922 politicians they all uh try to attack L37FwOVdOQU-00067-00015923-00016205 Democrats they try to attack half of the L37FwOVdOQU-00068-00016206-00016421 people in America because half you know L37FwOVdOQU-00069-00016422-00016655 as Democrat and we've been so evenly L37FwOVdOQU-00070-00016656-00016972 split uh in America that literally L37FwOVdOQU-00071-00016973-00017255 creating hate and fear about your next L37FwOVdOQU-00072-00017256-00017429 door neighbor I don't think is a winning L37FwOVdOQU-00073-00017430-00017705 strategy uh I I will be a president for L37FwOVdOQU-00074-00017706-00018041 all I believe that we need a God back in L37FwOVdOQU-00075-00018042-00018269 America I believe that uh in order for L37FwOVdOQU-00076-00018270-00018419 our fiscal policies and our health care L37FwOVdOQU-00077-00018420-00018635 policies our education policies look L37FwOVdOQU-00078-00018636-00018911 we're getting uh killed on our education L37FwOVdOQU-00079-00018912-00019085 when China is teaching engineering to L37FwOVdOQU-00080-00019086-00019235 sixth graders and we've got people L37FwOVdOQU-00081-00019236-00019450 graduating with a bachelor's degree that L37FwOVdOQU-00082-00019451-00019636 can hardly read and write because we L37FwOVdOQU-00083-00019637-00019811 keep lowering the standards because of L37FwOVdOQU-00084-00019812-00020044 our uh the way the educational system is L37FwOVdOQU-00085-00020045-00020393 set up uh with with women's pay and L37FwOVdOQU-00086-00020394-00020591 inequality I mean I'm from the L37FwOVdOQU-00087-00020592-00020789 entrepreneurial world there's just a L37FwOVdOQU-00088-00020790-00020986 world of difference between how we L37FwOVdOQU-00089-00020987-00021286 fundamentally think uh from from the way L37FwOVdOQU-00090-00021287-00021503 I think to the rest of the field and we L37FwOVdOQU-00091-00021504-00021713 see this over and over whether it's L37FwOVdOQU-00092-00021714-00021893 Trump whether it's DeSantis they're all L37FwOVdOQU-00093-00021894-00022180 reactionary defensive candidates and we L37FwOVdOQU-00094-00022181-00022421 need Visionary leadership I recently L37FwOVdOQU-00095-00022422-00022594 talked to business people and I said why L37FwOVdOQU-00096-00022595-00022805 in the world we hold these standards for L37FwOVdOQU-00097-00022806-00023099 CEOs they must have uh put themselves L37FwOVdOQU-00098-00023100-00023393 second and last and and edify other L37FwOVdOQU-00099-00023394-00023717 people and work with everyone and have L37FwOVdOQU-00100-00023718-00024125 lose the ego and uh but why do we put L37FwOVdOQU-00101-00024126-00024443 character on a back shelf uh when it's L37FwOVdOQU-00102-00024444-00024575 when it comes to the president of the L37FwOVdOQU-00103-00024576-00024803 United States and so I think that is one L37FwOVdOQU-00104-00024804-00024977 of the real differences I have four L37FwOVdOQU-00105-00024978-00025144 extensive foreign policy and L37FwOVdOQU-00106-00025145-00025349 international Affairs and diplomacy L37FwOVdOQU-00107-00025350-00025511 experience and I think the next L37FwOVdOQU-00108-00025512-00025690 president of the United States must be L37FwOVdOQU-00109-00025691-00025864 well versed in international diplomacy L37FwOVdOQU-00110-00025866-00026128 given that that is the nature of the L37FwOVdOQU-00111-00026129-00026296 world we live in today L37FwOVdOQU-00112-00026297-00026512 sir I love when we find something L37FwOVdOQU-00113-00026513-00026717 interesting in in the candidate's L37FwOVdOQU-00114-00026718-00026855 background that all Americans might know L37FwOVdOQU-00115-00026856-00027101 about you served in South Sudan during a L37FwOVdOQU-00116-00027102-00027335 very important time in the transition to L37FwOVdOQU-00117-00027336-00027473 a permanent Government after many years L37FwOVdOQU-00118-00027474-00027689 of destabilized war there tell us a L37FwOVdOQU-00119-00027689-00027905 little bit about that and how that isn't L37FwOVdOQU-00120-00027906-00028096 going to affect your your view of what L37FwOVdOQU-00121-00028097-00028264 you're going to do as president L37FwOVdOQU-00122-00028266-00028612 well look South Sudan is ranked 180 out L37FwOVdOQU-00123-00028613-00028840 of 180 out of the corruption scale they L37FwOVdOQU-00124-00028841-00029057 are considered more corrupt than the L37FwOVdOQU-00125-00029058-00029255 Ayatollah of Iran and Kim Jong-un and L37FwOVdOQU-00126-00029256-00029405 North Korea and I've been on the ground L37FwOVdOQU-00127-00029406-00029614 there we've been in the motorcades I've L37FwOVdOQU-00128-00029616-00029855 met personally and privately on multiple L37FwOVdOQU-00129-00029856-00030058 occasions with the president we gave L37FwOVdOQU-00130-00030060-00030245 birth the United States gave birth to L37FwOVdOQU-00131-00030245-00030431 South Sudan the world's newest Nation L37FwOVdOQU-00132-00030432-00030623 they've gone through two Civil Wars and L37FwOVdOQU-00133-00030624-00030839 they're in a lull right now you know and L37FwOVdOQU-00134-00030839-00031090 hopefully we can avoid a third uh in in L37FwOVdOQU-00135-00031091-00031295 Sudan we actually had a coup they were L37FwOVdOQU-00136-00031295-00031505 under the same transitional Constitution L37FwOVdOQU-00137-00031506-00031883 uh that we helped uh Institute and I can L37FwOVdOQU-00138-00031883-00032189 tell you that from my time in Ghana and L37FwOVdOQU-00139-00032189-00032464 Kenya and Malawi and Nairobi and and L37FwOVdOQU-00140-00032466-00032807 Rwanda and Uganda and and the sudans I L37FwOVdOQU-00141-00032808-00032951 can tell you and in China when I L37FwOVdOQU-00142-00032952-00033196 addressed China's you know communist uh L37FwOVdOQU-00143-00033197-00033377 Parliament and government officials L37FwOVdOQU-00144-00033378-00033640 there I can tell you that when you're L37FwOVdOQU-00145-00033641-00033862 dealing with with Nations that are L37FwOVdOQU-00146-00033863-00034018 corrupt and it's one of the reasons I'm L37FwOVdOQU-00147-00034019-00034145 running for president because I would L37FwOVdOQU-00148-00034146-00034312 come back after dealing dealing with L37FwOVdOQU-00149-00034313-00034601 some of these corrupt regimes and L37FwOVdOQU-00150-00034602-00034793 realize that much of what we were doing L37FwOVdOQU-00151-00034794-00035074 was actually worse but we were virtue L37FwOVdOQU-00152-00035075-00035296 signaling to some of the most corrupt L37FwOVdOQU-00153-00035297-00035452 countries and actually we were better at L37FwOVdOQU-00154-00035453-00035729 it than they are and so I believe though L37FwOVdOQU-00155-00035730-00035890 that real leadership authentic L37FwOVdOQU-00156-00035891-00036095 leadership we don't have to be the L37FwOVdOQU-00157-00036096-00036352 bullies to lead the world uh we will do L37FwOVdOQU-00158-00036353-00036545 it it where if someone even lifted a L37FwOVdOQU-00159-00036546-00036796 finger against us then they know that L37FwOVdOQU-00160-00036797-00037109 they would be uh they should be very L37FwOVdOQU-00161-00037110-00037433 afraid and uh that's then you don't have L37FwOVdOQU-00162-00037434-00037643 to show your might in Ukraine to the L37FwOVdOQU-00163-00037644-00037859 extent that we are in bankrupt America L37FwOVdOQU-00164-00037860-00038123 and create phony markets instead of L37FwOVdOQU-00165-00038124-00038309 focusing on free enterprise and L37FwOVdOQU-00166-00038310-00038668 capitalism the way it is intended uh and L37FwOVdOQU-00167-00038669-00038885 instead of the convoluted L37FwOVdOQU-00168-00038886-00039227 mix and blend that we have today L37FwOVdOQU-00169-00039228-00039407 Dr Roberts we've just got about a minute L37FwOVdOQU-00170-00039408-00039551 left I wanted to ask you quickly before L37FwOVdOQU-00171-00039552-00039701 we go I think that Americans are L37FwOVdOQU-00172-00039702-00040024 becoming increasingly uh more aware of L37FwOVdOQU-00173-00040025-00040235 of China's Shenanigans for lack of L37FwOVdOQU-00174-00040236-00040402 better terms especially with respect to L37FwOVdOQU-00175-00040403-00040649 inter intellectual property theft this L37FwOVdOQU-00176-00040650-00040817 has been on your radar for a long time L37FwOVdOQU-00177-00040818-00041074 though quickly tell us about that L37FwOVdOQU-00178-00041075-00041218 yes I addressed the international L37FwOVdOQU-00179-00041219-00041567 property uh theft uh directly to Chinese L37FwOVdOQU-00180-00041568-00041962 officials in 2017 uh because they had L37FwOVdOQU-00181-00041963-00042185 ripped off the hoverboard uh so L37FwOVdOQU-00182-00042186-00042383 extensively there were over 900 knockoff L37FwOVdOQU-00183-00042384-00042509 manufacturers knocking off our L37FwOVdOQU-00184-00042510-00042923 hoverboard and uh because of that uh I I L37FwOVdOQU-00185-00042924-00043073 addressed them and of course I L37FwOVdOQU-00186-00043074-00043240 challenged them and said why do you have L37FwOVdOQU-00187-00043241-00043487 to copy when you are are born as a human L37FwOVdOQU-00188-00043488-00043799 being to create uh but they their L37FwOVdOQU-00189-00043800-00043924 culture and this is where the United L37FwOVdOQU-00190-00043925-00044261 States consistently misjudges China L37FwOVdOQU-00191-00044262-00044585 their culture edifies and as a character L37FwOVdOQU-00192-00044586-00044993 trait and a virtue uh dishonesty uh in L37FwOVdOQU-00193-00044994-00045202 misleading and deception in business and L37FwOVdOQU-00194-00045203-00045437 then really in life so if they can L37FwOVdOQU-00195-00045438-00045629 deceive their opponent the Sun Tzu's Art L37FwOVdOQU-00196-00045630-00045730 of War if they can deceive their L37FwOVdOQU-00197-00045731-00046067 opponent in Chinese culture that's the L37FwOVdOQU-00198-00046068-00046240 equivalent to being on an honest person L37FwOVdOQU-00199-00046241-00046355 in America L37FwOVdOQU-00200-00046356-00046583 yeah about that Dr Roberts we're going L37FwOVdOQU-00201-00046584-00046702 to be watching your campaign very L37FwOVdOQU-00202-00046703-00046852 closely very excited to have you in the L37FwOVdOQU-00203-00046853-00047008 race good luck and we'll have you back L37FwOVdOQU-00204-00047009-00047135 on real soon L37FwOVdOQU-00205-00047136-00047321 thank you much all right folks we're L37FwOVdOQU-00206-00047322-00047440 gonna take a quick commercial break when L37FwOVdOQU-00207-00047441-00047596 we come back time to wrap up a lot of L37FwOVdOQU-00208-00047597-00047735 busy news today a lot of big thoughts L37FwOVdOQU-00209-00047736-00047824 we'll have that right after this L37FwOVdOQU-00210-00047825-00047900 commercial business L37FwOVdOQU-00211-00047901-00048267 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00000-00000083-00001559 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00001-00001560-00001942 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00002-00001943-00003479 stay put keep your head down L3PzAZC-OE4-00003-00003479-00005206 [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00004-00005207-00006383 from L3PzAZC-OE4-00005-00006384-00006528 all right L3PzAZC-OE4-00006-00006529-00007791 [Applause] L3PzAZC-OE4-00007-00007792-00009478 [__] i missed L3PzAZC-OE4-00008-00009479-00010887 got him L3PzAZC-OE4-00009-00010888-00012406 yes L3PzAZC-OE4-00010-00012407-00012567 that [__] is dead L3PzAZC-OE4-00011-00012568-00012935 that [__] is dead okay here we go L3PzAZC-OE4-00012-00012936-00013583 [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00013-00013584-00013775 far north aren't you well you don't want L3PzAZC-OE4-00014-00013776-00014463 to get too far away from carlos do you L3PzAZC-OE4-00015-00014463-00014558 okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00016-00014559-00014669 okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00017-00014671-00015830 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00018-00015831-00016150 it's on L3PzAZC-OE4-00019-00016151-00018086 it's on i'm pissed L3PzAZC-OE4-00020-00018087-00018614 someone else had that same idea L3PzAZC-OE4-00021-00018615-00020055 wanted to shoot me with a L3PzAZC-OE4-00022-00020056-00021127 oh it's one of those [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00023-00021128-00021535 okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00024-00021536-00022207 yeah you know what L3PzAZC-OE4-00025-00022208-00023078 peek-a-boo [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00026-00023079-00023375 oh [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00027-00023376-00025239 where's my home girl at i heard L3PzAZC-OE4-00028-00025240-00026083 that was actually hilarious L3PzAZC-OE4-00029-00026085-00027327 [Applause] L3PzAZC-OE4-00030-00027327-00027551 where's my where's the gal at L3PzAZC-OE4-00031-00027552-00027767 yeah we killed your friends L3PzAZC-OE4-00032-00027768-00028327 you're next L3PzAZC-OE4-00033-00028327-00028527 i think that's the last stop L3PzAZC-OE4-00034-00028527-00028727 oh jesus L3PzAZC-OE4-00035-00028727-00028895 i've seen rippers before but not like L3PzAZC-OE4-00036-00028895-00029167 that what the hell are they amped up on L3PzAZC-OE4-00037-00029168-00029462 no idea back in the day dealt with a few L3PzAZC-OE4-00038-00029463-00029639 tweakers who acted like that i think L3PzAZC-OE4-00039-00029639-00029887 they're on pcp or L3PzAZC-OE4-00040-00029888-00030190 whatever that other [__] is oh uh bath L3PzAZC-OE4-00041-00030191-00030431 salts remember i was like a thing before L3PzAZC-OE4-00042-00030432-00030583 everything went down L3PzAZC-OE4-00043-00030583-00030774 that's right yeah come on let's see if L3PzAZC-OE4-00044-00030775-00030967 they messed up our bikes L3PzAZC-OE4-00045-00030968-00031246 bath salts L3PzAZC-OE4-00046-00031247-00031390 do you think that iron mike's treated L3PzAZC-OE4-00047-00031391-00031574 with these bastards is gonna hold i L3PzAZC-OE4-00048-00031575-00031711 don't know [__] rippers after what L3PzAZC-OE4-00049-00031712-00031855 they did the boozer's arm after what L3PzAZC-OE4-00050-00031856-00032055 they did today release it what L3PzAZC-OE4-00051-00032056-00032199 this was clutched L3PzAZC-OE4-00052-00032200-00032487 in one of their hands L3PzAZC-OE4-00053-00032488-00032679 what happened did you guys have a run in L3PzAZC-OE4-00054-00032680-00032855 you and loser with with the rippers L3PzAZC-OE4-00055-00032856-00033318 before you stole the antibiotics well i L3PzAZC-OE4-00056-00033319-00033543 i don't know look whatever carlos thinks L3PzAZC-OE4-00057-00033544-00033646 i did L3PzAZC-OE4-00058-00033647-00033774 ain't gonna compare to what i'm gonna do L3PzAZC-OE4-00059-00033775-00034246 to him if i ever see the son of a [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00060-00034247-00034839 come on let's go L3PzAZC-OE4-00061-00034840-00035118 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00062-00035119-00035279 they definitely want our ass for some L3PzAZC-OE4-00063-00035280-00035337 reason L3PzAZC-OE4-00064-00035338-00035487 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00065-00035488-00035799 okay we have to follow the line south L3PzAZC-OE4-00066-00035800-00036023 check the transformers make sure they're L3PzAZC-OE4-00067-00036024-00036223 all good L3PzAZC-OE4-00068-00036224-00037223 we're not done i'm following you L3PzAZC-OE4-00069-00037224-00037446 hey i gotta ask you something L3PzAZC-OE4-00070-00037447-00037646 could i stop you L3PzAZC-OE4-00071-00037647-00037887 how'd you end up in the mc L3PzAZC-OE4-00072-00037888-00038118 it's a long story L3PzAZC-OE4-00073-00038119-00038351 we got a long ride L3PzAZC-OE4-00074-00038352-00038551 okay i i was a member of the tenth L3PzAZC-OE4-00075-00038552-00038774 mountain part of a forward unit working L3PzAZC-OE4-00076-00038775-00039283 with the northern L3PzAZC-OE4-00077-00039284-00039615 alliance you want to hear this or not L3PzAZC-OE4-00078-00039616-00039759 sorry L3PzAZC-OE4-00079-00039760-00040023 we were advancing on missouri sharif we L3PzAZC-OE4-00080-00040024-00040230 got ambushed by a group of taliban L3PzAZC-OE4-00081-00040231-00040415 heading the other way L3PzAZC-OE4-00082-00040416-00040639 and they were in flatbed trucks decked L3PzAZC-OE4-00083-00040640-00040735 out with L3PzAZC-OE4-00084-00040736-00041135 23s modified anti-aircraft guns L3PzAZC-OE4-00085-00041136-00041318 big guns L3PzAZC-OE4-00086-00041319-00041623 yeah really big [__] guns our humvee L3PzAZC-OE4-00087-00041624-00041743 exploded L3PzAZC-OE4-00088-00041744-00041990 went over a cliff right into the hari L3PzAZC-OE4-00089-00041991-00042143 you know how hard it is to drown in L3PzAZC-OE4-00090-00042144-00042327 afghanistan L3PzAZC-OE4-00091-00042328-00042599 it's hard place is one giant god damn L3PzAZC-OE4-00092-00042600-00042862 desert anyway i was thrown clear L3PzAZC-OE4-00093-00042863-00043046 and when i came to L3PzAZC-OE4-00094-00043047-00043262 the the humvee was upside down in the L3PzAZC-OE4-00095-00043263-00043358 river L3PzAZC-OE4-00096-00043359-00043590 i swam out to see if anyone survived i L3PzAZC-OE4-00097-00043591-00043687 uh L3PzAZC-OE4-00098-00043688-00044023 i pulled a body back to shore L3PzAZC-OE4-00099-00044024-00044174 and i did that L3PzAZC-OE4-00100-00044175-00044407 seven more times and by the by the time L3PzAZC-OE4-00101-00044408-00044574 i pulled in tanner L3PzAZC-OE4-00102-00044575-00044718 my sarge L3PzAZC-OE4-00103-00044719-00044871 i was done L3PzAZC-OE4-00104-00044872-00045039 and when i came home L3PzAZC-OE4-00105-00045040-00045207 i don't know i uh L3PzAZC-OE4-00106-00045208-00045471 i bought a bike spent a couple of years L3PzAZC-OE4-00107-00045472-00045671 on the road just moving from place to L3PzAZC-OE4-00108-00045672-00045846 place and um L3PzAZC-OE4-00109-00045847-00046030 to farewell you grew up around here L3PzAZC-OE4-00110-00046031-00046151 right L3PzAZC-OE4-00111-00046152-00046486 yeah yeah okay so by the time i finally L3PzAZC-OE4-00112-00046487-00046727 settled down i got a job at a bike shop L3PzAZC-OE4-00113-00046728-00046886 run by this L3PzAZC-OE4-00114-00046887-00047127 by this old guy named jack L3PzAZC-OE4-00115-00047128-00047446 and uh he ran the club the uh well the L3PzAZC-OE4-00116-00047447-00047671 press that's what we used to call him L3PzAZC-OE4-00117-00047672-00048062 he patched me in himself huh wait jack i L3PzAZC-OE4-00118-00048063-00048271 remember talking about it he was in L3PzAZC-OE4-00119-00048272-00048462 prison or something L3PzAZC-OE4-00120-00048463-00048711 some bad [__] went down and and he ended L3PzAZC-OE4-00121-00048712-00050279 up taking the rap for the club L3PzAZC-OE4-00122-00050280-00051670 oh what's gonna happen now L3PzAZC-OE4-00123-00051671-00051942 there we go there had to be one right L3PzAZC-OE4-00124-00051944-00052135 there it is come back in the morning you L3PzAZC-OE4-00125-00052136-00052342 can get whatever tools you need and L3PzAZC-OE4-00126-00052344-00052487 we'll finish it up then there will be L3PzAZC-OE4-00127-00052488-00052671 fewer freaks out L3PzAZC-OE4-00128-00052672-00052942 so no hot shower tonight L3PzAZC-OE4-00129-00052944-00053119 okay but i want to show you something L3PzAZC-OE4-00130-00053120-00053375 first ricky it's been a long day come on L3PzAZC-OE4-00131-00053376-00053575 you know a lot about the freaks i just L3PzAZC-OE4-00132-00053576-00053687 want to show you something you might L3PzAZC-OE4-00133-00053688-00053894 have to see in your panties come on L3PzAZC-OE4-00134-00053895-00054094 mother's will [__] okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00135-00054095-00054359 let's go L3PzAZC-OE4-00136-00054360-00054519 can i ask you something L3PzAZC-OE4-00137-00054520-00054759 i've got like i said before could i stop L3PzAZC-OE4-00138-00054760-00054838 you L3PzAZC-OE4-00139-00054839-00055087 why are you still flying colors i don't L3PzAZC-OE4-00140-00055088-00055223 know what you mean L3PzAZC-OE4-00141-00055224-00055326 i mean L3PzAZC-OE4-00142-00055327-00055647 why do you still wear the cuts L3PzAZC-OE4-00143-00055648-00055807 it's not like you're trying to recruit L3PzAZC-OE4-00144-00055808-00056087 anymore or staking out territory L3PzAZC-OE4-00145-00056088-00056319 now a couple of guys i worked with at L3PzAZC-OE4-00146-00056320-00056559 the plant more colors on the weekend L3PzAZC-OE4-00147-00056560-00056742 i asked him about it once L3PzAZC-OE4-00148-00056744-00056911 they said they wore him as a way of L3PzAZC-OE4-00149-00056912-00056999 saying L3PzAZC-OE4-00150-00057000-00057182 [__] you L3PzAZC-OE4-00151-00057183-00057375 i don't know cops authority the L3PzAZC-OE4-00152-00057376-00057479 government L3PzAZC-OE4-00153-00057479-00057766 so what are you rebelling against L3PzAZC-OE4-00154-00057767-00057919 whatever's left L3PzAZC-OE4-00155-00057920-00058159 look we wear him because we wear them L3PzAZC-OE4-00156-00058160-00058359 what do you want i mean no idea about L3PzAZC-OE4-00157-00058360-00058654 boozer but i ain't trying to say [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00158-00058655-00058799 it's just L3PzAZC-OE4-00159-00058800-00059063 cut L3PzAZC-OE4-00160-00059064-00059254 i've done a lot of stupid [__] in my L3PzAZC-OE4-00161-00059255-00059582 life but joining the mc well L3PzAZC-OE4-00162-00059583-00059750 let's just say that it's one of the few L3PzAZC-OE4-00163-00059751-00060150 things that i don't L3PzAZC-OE4-00164-00060151-00060282 oh we're on a roof L3PzAZC-OE4-00165-00060283-00060630 now ricky what are we doing here i've L3PzAZC-OE4-00166-00060632-00060838 seen the nero death trains before and L3PzAZC-OE4-00167-00060839-00060991 hordes i know L3PzAZC-OE4-00168-00060991-00061682 not like this L3PzAZC-OE4-00169-00061683-00062175 what watch L3PzAZC-OE4-00170-00062176-00062342 i've come out here a few times to see L3PzAZC-OE4-00171-00062344-00062447 them L3PzAZC-OE4-00172-00062448-00062623 they stay in these old machine buildings L3PzAZC-OE4-00173-00062624-00062775 and they come out every night like L3PzAZC-OE4-00174-00062776-00062991 someone's ringing a dinner bell right L3PzAZC-OE4-00175-00062991-00063166 when it's morning they go back inside L3PzAZC-OE4-00176-00063167-00063406 and what hibernate L3PzAZC-OE4-00177-00063407-00063535 you mean you never went down there to L3PzAZC-OE4-00178-00063536-00063703 see uh-huh L3PzAZC-OE4-00179-00063704-00063966 no one time i got way too close and a L3PzAZC-OE4-00180-00063967-00064294 dozen of them started chasing me L3PzAZC-OE4-00181-00064295-00064526 it's like poking a hornet's nest L3PzAZC-OE4-00182-00064527-00064679 come on let's get out of here it's L3PzAZC-OE4-00183-00064679-00064911 getting dark L3PzAZC-OE4-00184-00064912-00065030 yeah i don't want the music to get L3PzAZC-OE4-00185-00065032-00065375 stabby L3PzAZC-OE4-00186-00065376-00065574 music's already starting to get stabby L3PzAZC-OE4-00187-00065575-00065919 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00188-00065920-00066119 okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00189-00066120-00066350 okay anyway the other day L3PzAZC-OE4-00190-00066351-00066471 i uh L3PzAZC-OE4-00191-00066472-00066759 i saw something you won't believe L3PzAZC-OE4-00192-00066760-00066943 really if you want to talk L3PzAZC-OE4-00193-00066944-00067103 all right let's hear L3PzAZC-OE4-00194-00067104-00067231 wait let me guess L3PzAZC-OE4-00195-00067232-00067503 you saw L3PzAZC-OE4-00196-00067504-00067647 wait uh L3PzAZC-OE4-00197-00067648-00067831 how did you know about that L3PzAZC-OE4-00198-00067832-00068023 they've been spotted a few times all L3PzAZC-OE4-00199-00068024-00068191 over lost lake L3PzAZC-OE4-00200-00068192-00068406 [__] why do you care it's not like L3PzAZC-OE4-00201-00068407-00068591 they're here to help us from the sound L3PzAZC-OE4-00202-00068592-00068903 of it they shoot on site i don't care oh L3PzAZC-OE4-00203-00068904-00070567 sounded like you did L3PzAZC-OE4-00204-00070568-00070938 almost back L3PzAZC-OE4-00205-00070939-00071262 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00206-00071263-00071350 hey L3PzAZC-OE4-00207-00071351-00071550 where the hell have you been all day L3PzAZC-OE4-00208-00071551-00071735 nice to see you too yeah well skizzle L3PzAZC-OE4-00209-00071736-00071950 said you and deacon took off and i was L3PzAZC-OE4-00210-00071951-00072262 worried addy i'm tired okay it's been a L3PzAZC-OE4-00211-00072263-00072335 day L3PzAZC-OE4-00212-00072336-00072487 hey dee L3PzAZC-OE4-00213-00072488-00072662 thank you L3PzAZC-OE4-00214-00072663-00072871 oh jealousy when you're ready to tackle L3PzAZC-OE4-00215-00072872-00073071 that transformer L3PzAZC-OE4-00216-00073072-00073223 i'll be around L3PzAZC-OE4-00217-00073224-00073438 sure L3PzAZC-OE4-00218-00073439-00073679 [__] L3PzAZC-OE4-00219-00073680-00073943 what is your problem no no what is your L3PzAZC-OE4-00220-00073944-00074119 problem L3PzAZC-OE4-00221-00074120-00074494 i just said i'm tired that's it okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00222-00074495-00074655 i'm sorry L3PzAZC-OE4-00223-00074656-00074838 like i said i was worried it's not like L3PzAZC-OE4-00224-00074839-00075023 you to just take off without talking to L3PzAZC-OE4-00225-00075024-00075191 me L3PzAZC-OE4-00226-00075192-00075375 okay L3PzAZC-OE4-00227-00075376-00075943 so that's it L3PzAZC-OE4-00228-00075944-00076182 hmm L3PzAZC-OE4-00229-00076183-00078177 i see some trouble there L3PzAZC-OE4-00230-00078178-00078455 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00231-00078456-00078638 had gone out but no one as well look at L3PzAZC-OE4-00232-00078639-00078911 that it's too late for marsh duty yeah L3PzAZC-OE4-00233-00078912-00079215 looks too bad L3PzAZC-OE4-00234-00079216-00079350 i guess i'm scared i'm speaking of L3PzAZC-OE4-00235-00079351-00079543 schizo i wonder what the hell he did all L3PzAZC-OE4-00236-00079544-00079679 day L3PzAZC-OE4-00237-00079680-00079959 lips pulled back bearing her teeth like L3PzAZC-OE4-00238-00079960-00080215 i don't know a rabbit dog or something L3PzAZC-OE4-00239-00080216-00080431 hmm she L3PzAZC-OE4-00240-00080432-00080767 jumped on this guy L3PzAZC-OE4-00241-00080768-00081159 a college kid L3PzAZC-OE4-00242-00081160-00082031 starts tearing his throat L3PzAZC-OE4-00243-00082032-00082199 i didn't stick around to see what L3PzAZC-OE4-00244-00082200-00082559 happened to him L3PzAZC-OE4-00245-00082560-00082775 like i said that was my last day of work L3PzAZC-OE4-00246-00082776-00083055 i'm guessing it was everyone's last day L3PzAZC-OE4-00247-00083056-00083247 that was story time i ran into a freaker L3PzAZC-OE4-00248-00083248-00083838 at that well nearly [__] my pants L3PzAZC-OE4-00249-00083839-00084094 deke a group of men wrote in shot up the L3PzAZC-OE4-00250-00084095-00084247 gate and when we wouldn't let them in L3PzAZC-OE4-00251-00084248-00084582 they rode off ah [__] which direction L3PzAZC-OE4-00252-00084583-00084806 yeah they had more work but they didn't L3PzAZC-OE4-00253-00084807-00085038 go far they set up camp just north of L3PzAZC-OE4-00254-00085039-00085255 eden hill i think they might be planning L3PzAZC-OE4-00255-00085256-00085415 another attack so i need you to take a L3PzAZC-OE4-00256-00085416-00085503 look L3PzAZC-OE4-00257-00085504-00085750 okay right yeah i'll handle it thanks L3PzAZC-OE4-00258-00085751-00085879 deke L3PzAZC-OE4-00259-00085880-00086062 if i handle it i mean i'm killing them L3PzAZC-OE4-00260-00086063-00088447 all L3PzAZC-OE4-00261-00088448-00088615 hmm L3PzAZC-OE4-00262-00088616-00089111 i worked at the humane society L3PzAZC-OE4-00263-00089112-00089350 another story L3PzAZC-OE4-00264-00089351-00089535 had maybe 100 dogs L3PzAZC-OE4-00265-00089536-00089775 strays mostly if you had owners who L3PzAZC-OE4-00266-00089776-00090047 would show up eventually L3PzAZC-OE4-00267-00090048-00090294 one of the guys brought in a sick collie L3PzAZC-OE4-00268-00090295-00090567 it's a beautiful dog L3PzAZC-OE4-00269-00090568-00091015 but i told him to take it to our vet L3PzAZC-OE4-00270-00091016-00091318 but the vet had no room so he kept her L3PzAZC-OE4-00271-00091319-00091559 oh L3PzAZC-OE4-00272-00091560-00091726 i didn't even know dogs could get L3PzAZC-OE4-00273-00091727-00091855 infected L3PzAZC-OE4-00274-00091856-00091943 like L3PzAZC-OE4-00275-00091944-00092126 people i mean L3PzAZC-OE4-00276-00092127-00092343 no one knew i guess L3PzAZC-OE4-00277-00092344-00092482 an hour L3PzAZC-OE4-00278-00092483-00092871 later she was rabid oh no worse than L3PzAZC-OE4-00279-00092872-00093143 that her fur started falling out she L3PzAZC-OE4-00280-00093144-00093279 just L3PzAZC-OE4-00281-00093280-00093550 turned L3PzAZC-OE4-00282-00093551-00093903 we had to L3PzAZC-OE4-00283-00093904-00094094 put them all down L3PzAZC-OE4-00284-00094095-00094494 and there was nothing else we could do L3PzAZC-OE4-00285-00094495-00094911 that's that's now that is sad L3PzAZC-OE4-00286-00094912-00095103 you know it's messed up L3PzAZC-OE4-00287-00095104-00095391 that's not the worst story i've heard L3PzAZC-OE4-00288-00095392-00095694 not even close L3PzAZC-OE4-00289-00095695-00095943 now that that that L3PzAZC-OE4-00290-00095944-00096303 i'm sad i listened to L3PzAZC-OE4-00291-00096304-00096599 sob stories with humans ah L3PzAZC-OE4-00292-00096600-00097255 put in animals oh man my heart breaks L3PzAZC-OE4-00293-00097256-00097447 at least like she said collies are L3PzAZC-OE4-00294-00097448-00097694 adorable L3PzAZC-OE4-00295-00097695-00097903 i'm uh i'm gonna be gone for a while i'm L3PzAZC-OE4-00296-00097904-00098047 gonna need you to cover for me skis is L3PzAZC-OE4-00297-00098048-00098206 gonna wonder why i'm not out on marsh L3PzAZC-OE4-00298-00098207-00098455 duty or whatever the hell L3PzAZC-OE4-00299-00098456-00098606 hey deke L3PzAZC-OE4-00300-00098607-00098743 what's up L3PzAZC-OE4-00301-00098744-00098943 boozer's uh L3PzAZC-OE4-00302-00098944-00099159 hell i don't know he's he's depressed or L3PzAZC-OE4-00303-00099160-00099326 something talk to addie L3PzAZC-OE4-00304-00099327-00099543 i think i know a way to cheer him up L3PzAZC-OE4-00305-00099544-00099823 so what are you gonna do L3PzAZC-OE4-00306-00099824-00100038 i thought i'd maybe head to o'leary L3PzAZC-OE4-00307-00100039-00100359 mountain get his bike bring it back L3PzAZC-OE4-00308-00100360-00100623 that's a long way to go on foot L3PzAZC-OE4-00309-00100624-00100806 let's figure something out are you gonna L3PzAZC-OE4-00310-00100807-00101182 cover for me or what yeah L3PzAZC-OE4-00311-00101183-00101671 oh that's something i'll do speaking out L3PzAZC-OE4-00312-00101672-00103647 [Music] L3PzAZC-OE4-00313-00103648-00103855 you L8qLoGQlUuy-00000-00000000-00000064 [Music] L8qLoGQlUuy-00001-00000065-00001163 look over you where L8qLoGQlUuy-00002-00001164-00001917 [Music] L8qLoGQlUuy-00004-00004959-00005977 [Music] L8qLoGQlUuy-00006-00010636-00013511 [Music] Lq5L26vDkxI-00000-00004284-00005683 so Lq5L26vDkxI-00001-00005684-00008483 hey Lq5L26vDkxI-00003-00018284-00019683 foreign Lq5L26vDkxI-00004-00019684-00022483 so Lq5L26vDkxI-00005-00022484-00023883 um Lq5L26vDkxI-00006-00023884-00025639 hey Lq5L26vDkxI-00007-00025639-00025847 you LqAoSNOvVOg-00000-00000024-00001374 [Music] LqAoSNOvVOg-00001-00001375-00002415 move LqAoSNOvVOg-00002-00002416-00002583 hi and welcome back to my channel here LqAoSNOvVOg-00003-00002584-00002726 at russian river bees in northern LqAoSNOvVOg-00004-00002727-00002863 california LqAoSNOvVOg-00005-00002864-00003047 while i have some bad news and some good LqAoSNOvVOg-00006-00003048-00003303 news the bad news that i lost about six LqAoSNOvVOg-00007-00003304-00003438 hives LqAoSNOvVOg-00008-00003439-00003647 some were small some were my fault LqAoSNOvVOg-00009-00003647-00003783 because i'm a beginner commercial LqAoSNOvVOg-00010-00003784-00004070 beekeeper i left one of the hives kind LqAoSNOvVOg-00011-00004071-00004183 of LqAoSNOvVOg-00012-00004184-00004422 not really tight what i mean by that not LqAoSNOvVOg-00013-00004423-00004631 really sealed properly LqAoSNOvVOg-00014-00004632-00004806 they got a little bit of draft in there LqAoSNOvVOg-00015-00004807-00004975 a little bit of wind LqAoSNOvVOg-00016-00004976-00005231 and that caused an issue for us LqAoSNOvVOg-00017-00005232-00005511 so i had to uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00018-00005512-00005838 rescue some take some honey from them uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00019-00005839-00006063 take the bees shake them over to another LqAoSNOvVOg-00020-00006064-00006222 hive LqAoSNOvVOg-00021-00006223-00006406 not that many left LqAoSNOvVOg-00022-00006408-00006567 and LqAoSNOvVOg-00023-00006568-00006727 that's what happened to me so i'm going LqAoSNOvVOg-00024-00006728-00006855 through my winter LqAoSNOvVOg-00025-00006856-00007063 and i'm learning that you know it's not LqAoSNOvVOg-00026-00007064-00007446 easy to wrestle bees in the winter and LqAoSNOvVOg-00027-00007447-00007631 you know you have to do preparations i LqAoSNOvVOg-00028-00007631-00007798 made some mistakes LqAoSNOvVOg-00029-00007800-00008078 my boxers are too big they're too long LqAoSNOvVOg-00030-00008079-00008278 okay you don't want that you want to LqAoSNOvVOg-00031-00008279-00008478 keep them small but i didn't do that LqAoSNOvVOg-00032-00008479-00008671 because i didn't have any queens LqAoSNOvVOg-00033-00008672-00008871 well if you don't have any queens LqAoSNOvVOg-00034-00008872-00009206 you know then you can't really uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00035-00009207-00009414 hope for the best for the winner LqAoSNOvVOg-00036-00009415-00009678 you got older queens it gets cold they LqAoSNOvVOg-00037-00009679-00009942 don't make it the bees get robbed LqAoSNOvVOg-00038-00009943-00010183 the strength of the hive is weak and you LqAoSNOvVOg-00039-00010184-00010414 want it missing LqAoSNOvVOg-00040-00010415-00010638 the hive right i had two here if you LqAoSNOvVOg-00041-00010639-00010759 remember LqAoSNOvVOg-00042-00010760-00011046 right so now i got bees in here LqAoSNOvVOg-00043-00011047-00011231 we got some that are frozen LqAoSNOvVOg-00044-00011232-00011414 uh because it's cold it's been cold in LqAoSNOvVOg-00045-00011415-00011574 northern california it's been raining LqAoSNOvVOg-00046-00011575-00011742 it's been fires as you know in the LqAoSNOvVOg-00047-00011743-00011974 summer and we're dealing with all these LqAoSNOvVOg-00048-00011975-00012078 changes LqAoSNOvVOg-00049-00012079-00012327 so this these hives here were about two LqAoSNOvVOg-00050-00012328-00012527 years old i think i replaced the queen LqAoSNOvVOg-00051-00012528-00012670 in this one but i'm not sure i don't LqAoSNOvVOg-00052-00012671-00012886 remember and this one here so you got to LqAoSNOvVOg-00053-00012887-00013055 mark everything write things down you LqAoSNOvVOg-00054-00013056-00013222 might want to put it inside the box with LqAoSNOvVOg-00055-00013223-00013351 some tape LqAoSNOvVOg-00056-00013352-00013647 i'm still running this as a lab LqAoSNOvVOg-00057-00013647-00013855 and it's been an experience for me and i LqAoSNOvVOg-00058-00013856-00014083 have more hives here LqAoSNOvVOg-00059-00014084-00014511 remember gone i only got one left LqAoSNOvVOg-00060-00014512-00014775 here i used to have more here LqAoSNOvVOg-00061-00014776-00014927 one LqAoSNOvVOg-00062-00014928-00015207 two three and then there were splits LqAoSNOvVOg-00063-00015208-00015438 i got some bees and then i got a queen LqAoSNOvVOg-00064-00015440-00015583 and then i put them together and LqAoSNOvVOg-00065-00015584-00015791 hopefully they work out i guess things LqAoSNOvVOg-00066-00015791-00015894 going around LqAoSNOvVOg-00067-00015895-00016079 me so hold on here they don't like LqAoSNOvVOg-00068-00016080-00016366 cameras anything black dark LqAoSNOvVOg-00069-00016368-00016567 yeah so give me a sec LqAoSNOvVOg-00070-00016568-00016791 so what i've done here if you look here LqAoSNOvVOg-00071-00016792-00016999 these are the frames i had in the LqAoSNOvVOg-00072-00017000-00017311 mediums up there the ones up here LqAoSNOvVOg-00073-00017312-00017575 i had more boxes right so i had to split LqAoSNOvVOg-00074-00017576-00017655 them LqAoSNOvVOg-00075-00017656-00017758 what i mean by splitting them i had to LqAoSNOvVOg-00076-00017759-00017911 take them apart LqAoSNOvVOg-00077-00017912-00018055 take some honey and i got some honey LqAoSNOvVOg-00078-00018056-00018143 stored LqAoSNOvVOg-00079-00018144-00018391 but i have this yet i'm feeding the bees LqAoSNOvVOg-00080-00018392-00018519 hopefully they don't start robbing each LqAoSNOvVOg-00081-00018520-00018735 other but they're eating this up LqAoSNOvVOg-00082-00018736-00018894 still got some good hives here they're LqAoSNOvVOg-00083-00018895-00019127 thriving they're bringing in pollen here LqAoSNOvVOg-00084-00019128-00019414 they're all bringing in power uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00085-00019415-00019599 and as you know they're taking the honey LqAoSNOvVOg-00086-00019600-00019911 that they're finding free this stocks LqAoSNOvVOg-00087-00019912-00020103 didn't make it either so i got them LqAoSNOvVOg-00088-00020104-00020247 sometimes probably LqAoSNOvVOg-00089-00020248-00020503 and i got them eating some of this LqAoSNOvVOg-00090-00020504-00020655 i did break it for them here so they'll LqAoSNOvVOg-00091-00020656-00020814 be any quicker LqAoSNOvVOg-00092-00020815-00020991 it's going to get chilly but these bees LqAoSNOvVOg-00093-00020992-00021199 are really healthy if you look at them LqAoSNOvVOg-00094-00021200-00021391 they're really healthy LqAoSNOvVOg-00095-00021392-00021527 uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00096-00021528-00021758 so i'm feeding them back to honey LqAoSNOvVOg-00097-00021759-00021871 share it with them that's what they LqAoSNOvVOg-00098-00021872-00022055 really need for nutrition and then they LqAoSNOvVOg-00099-00022056-00022263 have this hive which was busy for a LqAoSNOvVOg-00100-00022264-00022399 minute LqAoSNOvVOg-00101-00022400-00022686 and uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00102-00022687-00022943 it's not busy now so i'm a little LqAoSNOvVOg-00103-00022944-00023119 concerned about this hive i've been in LqAoSNOvVOg-00104-00023120-00023278 i've closed it closed it really well i LqAoSNOvVOg-00105-00023279-00023439 made it smaller LqAoSNOvVOg-00106-00023440-00023711 and then i have this one to kentucky LqAoSNOvVOg-00107-00023712-00024135 this one's a kentucky queen uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00108-00024136-00024367 and hopefully this one's thriving i'm LqAoSNOvVOg-00109-00024368-00024663 opening up they're bringing them pollen LqAoSNOvVOg-00110-00024664-00024814 this one was LqAoSNOvVOg-00111-00024815-00025078 this hype here LqAoSNOvVOg-00112-00025079-00025367 was a swarm in my own yard and they're LqAoSNOvVOg-00113-00025368-00025567 thriving i'm feeding them LqAoSNOvVOg-00114-00025568-00025743 oh big here don't forget you want to get LqAoSNOvVOg-00115-00025744-00025974 them small like that at the end LqAoSNOvVOg-00116-00025975-00026190 but you know if you got food in here in LqAoSNOvVOg-00117-00026191-00026335 reserves LqAoSNOvVOg-00118-00026336-00026502 you know you keep it sealed LqAoSNOvVOg-00119-00026504-00026639 it might be okay LqAoSNOvVOg-00120-00026639-00027014 so far so good here LqAoSNOvVOg-00121-00027016-00027214 and these here that are gone i'm left LqAoSNOvVOg-00122-00027216-00027383 with this one LqAoSNOvVOg-00123-00027383-00027583 this one's driving LqAoSNOvVOg-00124-00027583-00027783 they're doing good LqAoSNOvVOg-00125-00027783-00027983 and they're not having a problem LqAoSNOvVOg-00126-00027983-00028079 uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00127-00028080-00028231 yeah they're gonna sting me if i get in LqAoSNOvVOg-00128-00028232-00028735 their way here but they're okay LqAoSNOvVOg-00129-00028736-00028918 so yeah that's the life of a commercial LqAoSNOvVOg-00130-00028919-00029062 beekeeper you know you're not gonna LqAoSNOvVOg-00131-00029063-00029214 always LqAoSNOvVOg-00132-00029216-00029487 uh LqAoSNOvVOg-00133-00029488-00029743 have all your hives with you like you LqAoSNOvVOg-00134-00029744-00029943 started you wind up losing something LqAoSNOvVOg-00135-00029944-00030270 especially if you do not LqAoSNOvVOg-00136-00030272-00030590 replace your queens LqAoSNOvVOg-00137-00030591-00030774 if you don't replace your queens you'll LqAoSNOvVOg-00138-00030775-00030870 wind up LqAoSNOvVOg-00139-00030872-00031095 with less bees LqAoSNOvVOg-00140-00031095-00031351 some queens won't make it LqAoSNOvVOg-00141-00031352-00031558 and then you'll be doing what i'm doing LqAoSNOvVOg-00142-00031560-00031758 you're feeding your bees and look at LqAoSNOvVOg-00143-00031760-00031943 your hives wow LqAoSNOvVOg-00144-00031944-00032239 there is no more LqAoSNOvVOg-00145-00032239-00032358 no bees LqAoSNOvVOg-00146-00032360-00032470 right LqAoSNOvVOg-00147-00032472-00032679 so LqAoSNOvVOg-00148-00032680-00032887 that's what happened here i got more LqAoSNOvVOg-00149-00032888-00033031 bees as you know we're gonna have them LqAoSNOvVOg-00150-00033032-00033207 on the other hand i just want to give LqAoSNOvVOg-00151-00033208-00033383 you an update how the winter LqAoSNOvVOg-00152-00033384-00033583 can turn out it can turn out good could LqAoSNOvVOg-00153-00033584-00033759 turn out bad LqAoSNOvVOg-00154-00033760-00034079 it can get worse or it can get better LqAoSNOvVOg-00155-00034080-00034239 and that's what i'm working on right now LqAoSNOvVOg-00156-00034240-00034374 getting better at what i do as a LqAoSNOvVOg-00157-00034375-00034482 commercial beekeeper LqAoSNOvVOg-00158-00034483-00034607 [Applause] LqAoSNOvVOg-00159-00034608-00034839 and i'm running a lab right here because LqAoSNOvVOg-00160-00034840-00035023 when i start going really full steam LqAoSNOvVOg-00161-00035024-00035174 ahead LqAoSNOvVOg-00162-00035175-00035287 you guys will know about it because LqAoSNOvVOg-00163-00035288-00035471 you'll see the work LqAoSNOvVOg-00164-00035472-00035671 uh so it's been a challenge it's not LqAoSNOvVOg-00165-00035672-00035846 easy it's a lot of work LqAoSNOvVOg-00166-00035847-00036151 it's a lot of know-how a lot of mistakes LqAoSNOvVOg-00167-00036152-00036335 and your mentor is not gonna be there LqAoSNOvVOg-00168-00036336-00036462 with you all the time you're gonna have LqAoSNOvVOg-00169-00036463-00036702 to figure it out and that's what i'm LqAoSNOvVOg-00170-00036703-00036911 doing trying to figure it out how i'm LqAoSNOvVOg-00171-00036912-00037135 gonna keep these hives going i should LqAoSNOvVOg-00172-00037136-00037327 have made them smaller these are new LqAoSNOvVOg-00173-00037328-00037502 queens in here so we're okay with the LqAoSNOvVOg-00174-00037503-00037671 queens that one is gonna have to be LqAoSNOvVOg-00175-00037672-00037799 replaced LqAoSNOvVOg-00176-00037800-00037974 i'm gonna look at her later right now LqAoSNOvVOg-00177-00037975-00038118 it's a little chilly in california so we LqAoSNOvVOg-00178-00038119-00038335 just want to take it easy on them LqAoSNOvVOg-00179-00038336-00038574 not cause them to LqAoSNOvVOg-00180-00038575-00038695 you know LqAoSNOvVOg-00181-00038696-00038871 maybe a queen of fly out who knows what LqAoSNOvVOg-00182-00038872-00039015 these beasts might do they have their LqAoSNOvVOg-00183-00039016-00039246 own minds they have their own ways we LqAoSNOvVOg-00184-00039247-00039446 just work with them and try to LqAoSNOvVOg-00185-00039447-00039679 uh it's like hurting cows you're hurting LqAoSNOvVOg-00186-00039680-00039767 bees LqAoSNOvVOg-00187-00039768-00039887 you gotta hurt them the right way and LqAoSNOvVOg-00188-00039888-00040071 maybe they'll work out maybe they won't LqAoSNOvVOg-00189-00040072-00040215 it's why it's expensive to be a LqAoSNOvVOg-00190-00040216-00040367 commercial beekeeper it's gonna cost you LqAoSNOvVOg-00191-00040368-00040455 money LqAoSNOvVOg-00192-00040456-00040655 twenty thousand thirty thousand you can LqAoSNOvVOg-00193-00040656-00040846 start out from scratch LqAoSNOvVOg-00194-00040847-00041007 but you know that's not easy you know LqAoSNOvVOg-00195-00041008-00041207 look at me this is from scratch okay LqAoSNOvVOg-00196-00041208-00041407 this is from nothing right to one box LqAoSNOvVOg-00197-00041408-00041567 remember i had one remember i started LqAoSNOvVOg-00198-00041568-00041767 with one box on this on this same land LqAoSNOvVOg-00199-00041768-00041974 here one box remember LqAoSNOvVOg-00200-00041975-00042190 uh look at my old videos please guys LqAoSNOvVOg-00201-00042191-00042495 subscribe comments tell me things what LqAoSNOvVOg-00202-00042496-00042630 do you want me to show you what do you LqAoSNOvVOg-00203-00042631-00042830 want me to do i'm a beginner beekeeper LqAoSNOvVOg-00204-00042831-00042983 but i'm also with a commercial guy that LqAoSNOvVOg-00205-00042984-00043230 mentoring me and we learn stuff just let LqAoSNOvVOg-00206-00043231-00043399 me know write something on the comments LqAoSNOvVOg-00207-00043400-00043511 let me know because i don't know what LqAoSNOvVOg-00208-00043512-00043711 you want i'll just keep shooting videos LqAoSNOvVOg-00209-00043712-00043911 but i'm building a business so it's not LqAoSNOvVOg-00210-00043912-00044079 going to be that easy i can't shoot tons LqAoSNOvVOg-00211-00044080-00044183 of videos LqAoSNOvVOg-00212-00044184-00044343 but believe me i'm going through the LqAoSNOvVOg-00213-00044344-00044583 experience just like any other beekeeper LqAoSNOvVOg-00214-00044584-00044774 but remember i'm going through something LqAoSNOvVOg-00215-00044775-00044967 a little more worse i think the reason LqAoSNOvVOg-00216-00044968-00045095 why i say that because i don't have that LqAoSNOvVOg-00217-00045096-00045327 many friends in the b business i got one LqAoSNOvVOg-00218-00045328-00045439 friend LqAoSNOvVOg-00219-00045440-00045630 and it's just hard for me LqAoSNOvVOg-00220-00045631-00045799 uh with other beekeepers it's not LqAoSNOvVOg-00221-00045800-00045951 because of me because the way the world LqAoSNOvVOg-00222-00045952-00046151 is now you got the virus LqAoSNOvVOg-00223-00046152-00046287 somebody want to be around each other LqAoSNOvVOg-00224-00046288-00046486 that much so it's not because of people LqAoSNOvVOg-00225-00046487-00046639 just because the environment's changed LqAoSNOvVOg-00226-00046640-00046871 and it's making it hard for bees too LqAoSNOvVOg-00227-00046872-00047046 they have viruses now we have more LqAoSNOvVOg-00228-00047047-00047246 viruses let's hope for the best i don't LqAoSNOvVOg-00229-00047247-00047415 want to sound negative just that i'm LqAoSNOvVOg-00230-00047416-00047583 really a commercial beekeeper i'm really LqAoSNOvVOg-00231-00047584-00047758 learning it's not easy LqAoSNOvVOg-00232-00047759-00047927 don't let anybody tell you it's really LqAoSNOvVOg-00233-00047928-00048215 hard work it costs money you can lose LqAoSNOvVOg-00234-00048216-00048423 don't lose money LqAoSNOvVOg-00235-00048424-00048623 i spent 300 about some bees i bought LqAoSNOvVOg-00236-00048624-00048871 some queens for seven dollars 300 worth LqAoSNOvVOg-00237-00048872-00049071 of bees and then i bought some queens i LqAoSNOvVOg-00238-00049072-00049306 got one box left out of that LqAoSNOvVOg-00239-00049307-00049430 [Applause] LqAoSNOvVOg-00240-00049431-00049551 maybe we'll get something out of that LqAoSNOvVOg-00241-00049552-00049671 one LqAoSNOvVOg-00242-00049672-00049830 maybe i'll split that hive and build LqAoSNOvVOg-00243-00049831-00050095 them up and split it and even come back LqAoSNOvVOg-00244-00050096-00050239 there's no telling LqAoSNOvVOg-00245-00050240-00050430 you gotta have a system but the system LqAoSNOvVOg-00246-00050431-00050574 has to work but you got to go through LqAoSNOvVOg-00247-00050575-00050735 trial and error and that costs money and LqAoSNOvVOg-00248-00050736-00050918 i keep saying that because if you guys LqAoSNOvVOg-00249-00050919-00051135 want to do this it's gonna cost you okay LqAoSNOvVOg-00250-00051136-00051326 there's nothing free it's hard work but LqAoSNOvVOg-00251-00051327-00051479 i enjoy what i do and i want you to LqAoSNOvVOg-00252-00051479-00051623 enjoy the video and that's it with the LqAoSNOvVOg-00253-00051624-00051766 negative stuff but the positive thing is LqAoSNOvVOg-00254-00051767-00052007 we got bees here they're thriving still LqAoSNOvVOg-00255-00052008-00052182 we're in the mid-winter and i'm out here 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LxkZAvVrlu4-00031-00007856-00008014 so you do like the idea of some LxkZAvVrlu4-00032-00008015-00008159 automation LxkZAvVrlu4-00033-00008159-00008271 christie LxkZAvVrlu4-00034-00008272-00008607 to be honest no i just yeah i just like LxkZAvVrlu4-00035-00008608-00008967 it you know to be more interactive more LxkZAvVrlu4-00036-00008968-00009151 questions like from people back and LxkZAvVrlu4-00037-00009152-00009351 forth with them LxkZAvVrlu4-00038-00009352-00009455 i i LxkZAvVrlu4-00039-00009456-00009735 tend to agree with you um do you LxkZAvVrlu4-00040-00009736-00010031 i'm curious if you have thoughts on like LxkZAvVrlu4-00041-00010032-00010319 how we might if we just go with like a LxkZAvVrlu4-00042-00010320-00010535 process that's similar to to event LxkZAvVrlu4-00043-00010536-00010703 badging LxkZAvVrlu4-00044-00010704-00010863 how we LxkZAvVrlu4-00045-00010864-00011174 think about um LxkZAvVrlu4-00046-00011175-00011487 like maybe limiting the number of 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of human LxkZAvVrlu4-00064-00015344-00015483 review LxkZAvVrlu4-00065-00015484-00015655 necessary mm-hmm LxkZAvVrlu4-00066-00015656-00015991 yep ruth LxkZAvVrlu4-00067-00015991-00016294 i i really do agree that we would you LxkZAvVrlu4-00068-00016295-00016527 know have because then it's for projects LxkZAvVrlu4-00069-00016528-00016743 and we do have like a lot of open source LxkZAvVrlu4-00070-00016744-00016958 projects and i do agree months that i LxkZAvVrlu4-00071-00016959-00017222 would have like a lot of um would have a LxkZAvVrlu4-00072-00017223-00017399 case where i would have those LxkZAvVrlu4-00073-00017400-00017655 um like a lot of applications with less LxkZAvVrlu4-00074-00017656-00017911 reviewers something i had thought of LxkZAvVrlu4-00075-00017912-00018158 over the week is LxkZAvVrlu4-00076-00018159-00018407 i don't know if we want to kind of do LxkZAvVrlu4-00077-00018408-00018535 like a LxkZAvVrlu4-00078-00018536-00018639 beta LxkZAvVrlu4-00079-00018640-00018863 program or kind of test out how it would LxkZAvVrlu4-00080-00018864-00019039 be and learn from LxkZAvVrlu4-00081-00019040-00019207 maybe LxkZAvVrlu4-00082-00019208-00019479 that and so we could apply it to LxkZAvVrlu4-00083-00019480-00019679 launching the program like launching LxkZAvVrlu4-00084-00019680-00019903 project patching fully i don't know if LxkZAvVrlu4-00085-00019904-00020103 we want to try that as well that that LxkZAvVrlu4-00086-00020104-00020383 could be something we could try like LxkZAvVrlu4-00087-00020384-00020550 something like that LxkZAvVrlu4-00088-00020551-00020950 like watching it on a limited basis LxkZAvVrlu4-00089-00020951-00021263 first so we can we get to see how we can LxkZAvVrlu4-00090-00021264-00021414 handle um LxkZAvVrlu4-00091-00021415-00021647 you know the reviewing process and every LxkZAvVrlu4-00092-00021648-00021863 other thing then before fully like LxkZAvVrlu4-00093-00021864-00022007 launching it LxkZAvVrlu4-00094-00022008-00022511 um so like everyone can apply LxkZAvVrlu4-00095-00022512-00023047 okay would be something as well LxkZAvVrlu4-00096-00023048-00023358 i was just thinking LxkZAvVrlu4-00097-00023359-00023583 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00098-00023584-00023814 would it be possible LxkZAvVrlu4-00099-00023815-00024111 to kind of merge LxkZAvVrlu4-00100-00024112-00024335 the automated process LxkZAvVrlu4-00101-00024336-00024511 with a human review process because LxkZAvVrlu4-00102-00024512-00024671 right now we've been talking i totally LxkZAvVrlu4-00103-00024672-00024839 just thought of this now LxkZAvVrlu4-00104-00024840-00024942 that um LxkZAvVrlu4-00105-00024943-00025111 we talked about having an automated LxkZAvVrlu4-00106-00025112-00025375 process that would be you know pending LxkZAvVrlu4-00107-00025376-00025550 and then we would have a human review LxkZAvVrlu4-00108-00025551-00025831 process that would be passing but LxkZAvVrlu4-00109-00025832-00025950 there are LxkZAvVrlu4-00110-00025951-00026143 fair concerns about 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of applications or i LxkZAvVrlu4-00145-00034912-00035143 don't yeah i don't know um LxkZAvVrlu4-00146-00035144-00035374 that wasn't it wasn't even thinking for LxkZAvVrlu4-00147-00035375-00035687 lots of applications it was more like LxkZAvVrlu4-00148-00035688-00035846 let's say the review gets assigned to LxkZAvVrlu4-00149-00035847-00035983 you ruth LxkZAvVrlu4-00150-00035984-00036111 and then LxkZAvVrlu4-00151-00036112-00036327 so you're responsible for reviewing a LxkZAvVrlu4-00152-00036328-00036535 project LxkZAvVrlu4-00153-00036536-00036702 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00154-00036703-00036918 part of LxkZAvVrlu4-00155-00036919-00037159 part of the review part of what you have LxkZAvVrlu4-00156-00037160-00037327 to do LxkZAvVrlu4-00157-00037328-00037799 could be automated LxkZAvVrlu4-00158-00037800-00037990 you know what i mean like you just get LxkZAvVrlu4-00159-00037991-00038239 you just get responses like does the dei LxkZAvVrlu4-00160-00038240-00038462 md file exist LxkZAvVrlu4-00161-00038463-00038583 does LxkZAvVrlu4-00162-00038584-00038815 are the headers LxkZAvVrlu4-00163-00038816-00039174 in the dei file present LxkZAvVrlu4-00164-00039175-00039327 you know what i mean the LxkZAvVrlu4-00165-00039328-00039484 the metrics um LxkZAvVrlu4-00166-00039485-00039679 [Music] LxkZAvVrlu4-00167-00039680-00040111 and the deimd file is presented to you LxkZAvVrlu4-00168-00040112-00040335 like right right in the issue somehow i LxkZAvVrlu4-00169-00040336-00040462 don't know how like you don't have to go LxkZAvVrlu4-00170-00040463-00040646 to the repository LxkZAvVrlu4-00171-00040647-00040862 and you can simply just read those LxkZAvVrlu4-00172-00040863-00041311 responses in the deimd file quickly LxkZAvVrlu4-00173-00041312-00041551 i think that makes sense because say for LxkZAvVrlu4-00174-00041552-00041743 example i have like LxkZAvVrlu4-00175-00041744-00042007 five applications been assigned to me as LxkZAvVrlu4-00176-00042008-00042255 a reviewer right LxkZAvVrlu4-00177-00042256-00042535 i i want to start reviewing like right LxkZAvVrlu4-00178-00042536-00042639 now LxkZAvVrlu4-00179-00042640-00042839 when i push this button it can scan LxkZAvVrlu4-00180-00042840-00043023 through the five um LxkZAvVrlu4-00181-00043024-00043295 the five projects i have to review and LxkZAvVrlu4-00182-00043296-00043535 then it brings up like i have to start LxkZAvVrlu4-00183-00043536-00043758 with that one that has you know the di LxkZAvVrlu4-00184-00043759-00044071 or the the for this case not the dimd LxkZAvVrlu4-00185-00044072-00044279 file i start with that one and then the LxkZAvVrlu4-00186-00044280-00044630 ones that do not have i may be um LxkZAvVrlu4-00187-00044631-00044879 you know kind of like ax or maybe the LxkZAvVrlu4-00188-00044880-00045079 passing i think depending rather i use LxkZAvVrlu4-00189-00045080-00045430 the pending but so yeah it LxkZAvVrlu4-00190-00045431-00045727 does make sense to have some part of it LxkZAvVrlu4-00191-00045728-00046030 automated but i think one thing we might LxkZAvVrlu4-00192-00046031-00046279 want to be careful of is LxkZAvVrlu4-00193-00046280-00046599 um we have to explain this as well so it LxkZAvVrlu4-00194-00046600-00046783 doesn't look like the whole process is LxkZAvVrlu4-00195-00046784-00047015 automated and somebody's doing all the LxkZAvVrlu4-00196-00047016-00047102 work LxkZAvVrlu4-00197-00047103-00047302 so yeah that's something we might want LxkZAvVrlu4-00198-00047303-00047439 to really LxkZAvVrlu4-00199-00047440-00047558 explain LxkZAvVrlu4-00200-00047559-00047751 yeah because that was something that LxkZAvVrlu4-00201-00047752-00048015 came up also was the LxkZAvVrlu4-00202-00048016-00048215 oh where was it it's like at the top of LxkZAvVrlu4-00203-00048216-00048374 page two in the minutes LxkZAvVrlu4-00204-00048375-00048558 oh no that wasn't it LxkZAvVrlu4-00205-00048559-00048783 um oh it's the yeah it's the top there LxkZAvVrlu4-00206-00048784-00048943 when things are automated people have LxkZAvVrlu4-00207-00048944-00049246 expectations about response time LxkZAvVrlu4-00208-00049247-00049374 and so LxkZAvVrlu4-00209-00049375-00049623 if we say that this is automated to any LxkZAvVrlu4-00210-00049624-00049783 degree we might want to say and there's LxkZAvVrlu4-00211-00049784-00050086 a human component too so you may not get LxkZAvVrlu4-00212-00050087-00050351 a response like this afternoon LxkZAvVrlu4-00213-00050352-00050511 kind of thing LxkZAvVrlu4-00214-00050512-00050686 i think that's what you're referring to LxkZAvVrlu4-00215-00050687-00051135 ruth LxkZAvVrlu4-00216-00051136-00051230 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00217-00051232-00051366 sean i don't know if you're listening to LxkZAvVrlu4-00218-00051367-00051535 this and how this resonates with the LxkZAvVrlu4-00219-00051536-00051766 conversation LxkZAvVrlu4-00220-00051767-00051902 you have LxkZAvVrlu4-00221-00051903-00052054 had with demetrius LxkZAvVrlu4-00222-00052055-00052254 [Music] LxkZAvVrlu4-00223-00052255-00052542 yeah i think LxkZAvVrlu4-00224-00052544-00052735 i think that um LxkZAvVrlu4-00225-00052736-00052863 this can work LxkZAvVrlu4-00226-00052864-00053015 so you mean LxkZAvVrlu4-00227-00053016-00053062 the LxkZAvVrlu4-00228-00053063-00053230 [Music] LxkZAvVrlu4-00229-00053232-00053391 with the part that i'm not quite sure LxkZAvVrlu4-00230-00053391-00053607 about from the conversation is LxkZAvVrlu4-00231-00053608-00053823 is there always a human in the loop in LxkZAvVrlu4-00232-00053824-00054030 this case yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00233-00054032-00054582 yeah um LxkZAvVrlu4-00234-00054583-00054919 i think if yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00235-00054920-00055087 i mean that's not what we were hoping LxkZAvVrlu4-00236-00055088-00055271 for but if it's what the community LxkZAvVrlu4-00237-00055272-00055511 supports then i just have to LxkZAvVrlu4-00238-00055512-00055823 talk to metris and maybe work we we can LxkZAvVrlu4-00239-00055824-00056094 work together to find a way to ex LxkZAvVrlu4-00240-00056095-00056271 make that process as efficient as LxkZAvVrlu4-00241-00056272-00056503 possible yeah exactly so that was the LxkZAvVrlu4-00242-00056504-00056742 like yeah the proposal the push the LxkZAvVrlu4-00243-00056744-00056991 button kind of thing yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00244-00056991-00057326 sure the review is assigned to you sean LxkZAvVrlu4-00245-00057327-00057623 right like how can we and chris that's LxkZAvVrlu4-00246-00057624-00057894 maybe just one reviewer per LxkZAvVrlu4-00247-00057895-00057982 but like LxkZAvVrlu4-00248-00057983-00058191 the burden on that person is down to LxkZAvVrlu4-00249-00058191-00058311 like LxkZAvVrlu4-00250-00058312-00058575 fiverr it's much lower LxkZAvVrlu4-00251-00058576-00058830 yeah and it um LxkZAvVrlu4-00252-00058832-00059047 i think it uh LxkZAvVrlu4-00253-00059048-00059263 yeah it LxkZAvVrlu4-00254-00059264-00059671 and and if we uh hit a scale problem LxkZAvVrlu4-00255-00059672-00059807 then we uh LxkZAvVrlu4-00256-00059808-00060047 try to recruit more reviewers LxkZAvVrlu4-00257-00060048-00060238 and train them ruth's point too like LxkZAvVrlu4-00258-00060239-00060463 perhaps we could just do pilot LxkZAvVrlu4-00259-00060464-00060623 first like we LxkZAvVrlu4-00260-00060624-00060823 i don't know you have to LxkZAvVrlu4-00261-00060824-00060935 apply LxkZAvVrlu4-00262-00060936-00061047 i don't know LxkZAvVrlu4-00263-00061048-00061126 some LxkZAvVrlu4-00264-00061127-00061238 limit LxkZAvVrlu4-00265-00061239-00061430 the potential yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00266-00061432-00061582 yeah i think LxkZAvVrlu4-00267-00061583-00061782 yep well jimmy just hasn't gotten back LxkZAvVrlu4-00268-00061783-00061982 to me about that initiative at this LxkZAvVrlu4-00269-00061983-00062135 point so i think LxkZAvVrlu4-00270-00062136-00062326 when she does i'll i'll bring this to LxkZAvVrlu4-00271-00062327-00062519 her i'll bring it to your attention next LxkZAvVrlu4-00272-00062520-00062750 week if i haven't heard from her on it LxkZAvVrlu4-00273-00062751-00063030 before this meeting in that way um LxkZAvVrlu4-00274-00063032-00063319 that way i'll have um are we still LxkZAvVrlu4-00275-00063320-00063487 thinking two levels or would that just LxkZAvVrlu4-00276-00063488-00063687 take us back to one level LxkZAvVrlu4-00277-00063688-00063775 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00278-00063776-00063919 it would probably just take us back to LxkZAvVrlu4-00279-00063920-00064038 one level LxkZAvVrlu4-00280-00064039-00064238 okay i think there's just too many LxkZAvVrlu4-00281-00064239-00064430 concerns about LxkZAvVrlu4-00282-00064432-00064647 removing the human from the loop as you LxkZAvVrlu4-00283-00064648-00064775 say LxkZAvVrlu4-00284-00064776-00064975 okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00285-00064976-00065150 i i LxkZAvVrlu4-00286-00065151-00065271 yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00287-00065272-00065679 i i i understand you got it i think um LxkZAvVrlu4-00288-00065680-00065903 yeah we'll we'll see what LxkZAvVrlu4-00289-00065904-00066103 we'll see we'll see what uh yeah we'll LxkZAvVrlu4-00290-00066104-00066247 see what that's where that discussion LxkZAvVrlu4-00291-00066248-00066438 leads i'm i'm optimistic we'll find a LxkZAvVrlu4-00292-00066439-00066543 way to LxkZAvVrlu4-00293-00066544-00066855 do this well yes i am too okay cool LxkZAvVrlu4-00294-00066856-00067175 thanks everybody LxkZAvVrlu4-00295-00067176-00067599 great thank you so LxkZAvVrlu4-00296-00067600-00067806 we can LxkZAvVrlu4-00297-00067807-00068071 now jump to the other point LxkZAvVrlu4-00298-00068072-00068415 which i guess is for matt g LxkZAvVrlu4-00299-00068416-00068743 it's for me to apologize LxkZAvVrlu4-00300-00068744-00068879 so basically LxkZAvVrlu4-00301-00068880-00069079 we've been you know this round of LxkZAvVrlu4-00302-00069080-00069199 metrics LxkZAvVrlu4-00303-00069200-00069350 released we're really supposed to be LxkZAvVrlu4-00304-00069351-00069550 reviewing metrics from working groups LxkZAvVrlu4-00305-00069551-00069759 and i'm i'm assigned to the dei working LxkZAvVrlu4-00306-00069760-00069959 group and i did the couple at the LxkZAvVrlu4-00307-00069960-00070111 beginning and LxkZAvVrlu4-00308-00070112-00070294 i need to do more so i just that's LxkZAvVrlu4-00309-00070295-00070479 coming i should start that up again this LxkZAvVrlu4-00310-00070480-00070615 week LxkZAvVrlu4-00311-00070616-00070735 okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00312-00070736-00070911 great LxkZAvVrlu4-00313-00070912-00071143 uh the other thing we have here it's LxkZAvVrlu4-00314-00071144-00071471 diversity access tickets for chaos con LxkZAvVrlu4-00315-00071472-00071662 europe we should have a link to the LxkZAvVrlu4-00316-00071663-00072079 scholarship page yeah also me so LxkZAvVrlu4-00317-00072080-00072406 um okay so right now LxkZAvVrlu4-00318-00072407-00072503 if LxkZAvVrlu4-00319-00072504-00072719 you want to attend LxkZAvVrlu4-00320-00072720-00072919 open source summit or i'm sorry if you LxkZAvVrlu4-00321-00072920-00073247 want to attend chaos con europe LxkZAvVrlu4-00322-00073248-00073462 you have to apply for LxkZAvVrlu4-00323-00073463-00073615 you have to register for open source LxkZAvVrlu4-00324-00073616-00073975 summit europe like the larger conference LxkZAvVrlu4-00325-00073976-00074111 that's just how it works because the LxkZAvVrlu4-00326-00074112-00074262 linux foundation is handling our LxkZAvVrlu4-00327-00074263-00074494 registration at the moment LxkZAvVrlu4-00328-00074495-00074694 and i'm pretty sure that registration LxkZAvVrlu4-00329-00074695-00074935 for open source summit europe is LxkZAvVrlu4-00330-00074936-00075262 probably pretty expensive i don't know LxkZAvVrlu4-00331-00075263-00075455 does anybody know how much it is i don't LxkZAvVrlu4-00332-00075456-00075631 know six hundred dollars LxkZAvVrlu4-00333-00075632-00075823 you know what i mean it's probably it's LxkZAvVrlu4-00334-00075824-00076126 probably up there so chaos con itself is LxkZAvVrlu4-00335-00076127-00076447 only fifty dollars but LxkZAvVrlu4-00336-00076448-00076631 um for us to provide it LxkZAvVrlu4-00337-00076632-00076719 uh LxkZAvVrlu4-00338-00076720-00077031 free registration for chaos con LxkZAvVrlu4-00339-00077032-00077223 only saves fifty dollars it doesn't LxkZAvVrlu4-00340-00077224-00077582 remove the oss eu registration see what LxkZAvVrlu4-00341-00077583-00077703 i'm saying LxkZAvVrlu4-00342-00077704-00077862 so somebody would still have to pay six LxkZAvVrlu4-00343-00077863-00078087 hundred dollars to basically get to LxkZAvVrlu4-00344-00078088-00078319 chaos con LxkZAvVrlu4-00345-00078320-00078423 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00346-00078424-00078631 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00347-00078632-00078767 there's probably not much we can do LxkZAvVrlu4-00348-00078768-00079094 about that this time around i can i LxkZAvVrlu4-00349-00079095-00079438 could get chaos con vouchers like save LxkZAvVrlu4-00350-00079439-00079679 50 LxkZAvVrlu4-00351-00079680-00079982 um the other option is that we add a LxkZAvVrlu4-00352-00079983-00080126 link LxkZAvVrlu4-00353-00080127-00080406 to the site that i put on there the LxkZAvVrlu4-00354-00080407-00080606 scholarship page LxkZAvVrlu4-00355-00080607-00081191 so i'll put it in the chat here LxkZAvVrlu4-00356-00081192-00081615 so this is um LxkZAvVrlu4-00357-00081616-00081943 this is LxkZAvVrlu4-00358-00081944-00082150 like scholarships provided by the linux LxkZAvVrlu4-00359-00082151-00082350 foundation to attend open source summit LxkZAvVrlu4-00360-00082351-00082479 europe LxkZAvVrlu4-00361-00082480-00082662 and i can confirm that like if you get LxkZAvVrlu4-00362-00082663-00082838 accepted to attend open source summit LxkZAvVrlu4-00363-00082839-00083047 europe you can attend chaos con that's LxkZAvVrlu4-00364-00083048-00083335 not a problem LxkZAvVrlu4-00365-00083336-00083559 so i think the best solution for us LxkZAvVrlu4-00366-00083560-00083767 right now is just to add this to the LxkZAvVrlu4-00367-00083768-00083918 website LxkZAvVrlu4-00368-00083919-00084118 for open source summit or yeah for a LxkZAvVrlu4-00369-00084119-00084326 chaos con europe LxkZAvVrlu4-00370-00084327-00084479 and just say if you plan on attending LxkZAvVrlu4-00371-00084480-00084726 chaos con and need financial support in LxkZAvVrlu4-00372-00084727-00084911 doing so LxkZAvVrlu4-00373-00084912-00085094 please follow the linux foundation LxkZAvVrlu4-00374-00085095-00085391 scholarship process LxkZAvVrlu4-00375-00085392-00085999 what do people think of that LxkZAvVrlu4-00376-00086000-00086087 good LxkZAvVrlu4-00377-00086088-00086182 yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00378-00086183-00086287 okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00379-00086288-00086462 i have one question LxkZAvVrlu4-00380-00086463-00086718 so for somebody for example that has a LxkZAvVrlu4-00381-00086719-00087023 ticket for the chaos con LxkZAvVrlu4-00382-00087024-00087175 can they LxkZAvVrlu4-00383-00087176-00087487 so they cannot access the LxkZAvVrlu4-00384-00087488-00087575 the LxkZAvVrlu4-00385-00087576-00087831 open source conference europe right LxkZAvVrlu4-00386-00087832-00088118 that's correct okay but it can happen LxkZAvVrlu4-00387-00088119-00088462 the otherwise like somebody okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00388-00088463-00088599 yep LxkZAvVrlu4-00389-00088600-00088759 i'm kind of learning all these things as LxkZAvVrlu4-00390-00088760-00088838 i LxkZAvVrlu4-00391-00088839-00089047 as i work with events and registration LxkZAvVrlu4-00392-00089048-00089191 all that kind of stuff LxkZAvVrlu4-00393-00089192-00089487 now the the stream the kscon stream will LxkZAvVrlu4-00394-00089488-00089991 be available publicly and free of charge LxkZAvVrlu4-00395-00089992-00090150 okay awesome LxkZAvVrlu4-00396-00090151-00090406 yep so we'll be live streaming it um so LxkZAvVrlu4-00397-00090407-00090503 then LxkZAvVrlu4-00398-00090504-00090679 my my LxkZAvVrlu4-00399-00090680-00090991 my other thought then too was LxkZAvVrlu4-00400-00090992-00091287 do in the future LxkZAvVrlu4-00401-00091288-00091535 do we want to have LxkZAvVrlu4-00402-00091536-00091775 chaos cons or what are people's thoughts LxkZAvVrlu4-00403-00091776-00092191 on on having chaos cons independent of LxkZAvVrlu4-00404-00092192-00092271 the LxkZAvVrlu4-00405-00092272-00092438 like open source summit LxkZAvVrlu4-00406-00092439-00092623 you know europe or something like that LxkZAvVrlu4-00407-00092624-00092838 lots of times we attach them LxkZAvVrlu4-00408-00092839-00092991 but in the past sean you remember LxkZAvVrlu4-00409-00092992-00093215 vancouver LxkZAvVrlu4-00410-00093216-00093326 we yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00411-00093327-00093494 we had that one remember we had it it LxkZAvVrlu4-00412-00093495-00093735 was it wasn't in the same physical space LxkZAvVrlu4-00413-00093736-00093959 it was out there in an off-site space LxkZAvVrlu4-00414-00093960-00094087 and then we handled there was a little LxkZAvVrlu4-00415-00094088-00094303 illustration then too though LxkZAvVrlu4-00416-00094304-00094503 we did yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00417-00094504-00094647 we handled our own yeah we handled our LxkZAvVrlu4-00418-00094648-00094959 own registration there was no coupling LxkZAvVrlu4-00419-00094960-00095062 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00420-00095063-00095167 there was some can there's some LxkZAvVrlu4-00421-00095168-00095311 conveniences associated with the LxkZAvVrlu4-00422-00095312-00095526 coupling but if we're looking to make LxkZAvVrlu4-00423-00095527-00095838 access more widely available LxkZAvVrlu4-00424-00095839-00096079 i mean decoupling them is not LxkZAvVrlu4-00425-00096080-00096279 not difficult it just requires finding a LxkZAvVrlu4-00426-00096280-00096479 site and frankly like with fosdem we've LxkZAvVrlu4-00427-00096480-00096743 never had a problem doing that LxkZAvVrlu4-00428-00096744-00096879 and LxkZAvVrlu4-00429-00096880-00097047 certainly in dublin if we had needed to LxkZAvVrlu4-00430-00097048-00097182 we would not have had a problem doing LxkZAvVrlu4-00431-00097183-00097287 that LxkZAvVrlu4-00432-00097288-00097367 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00433-00097368-00097518 i mean they're generally not holding LxkZAvVrlu4-00434-00097519-00097735 these things in um LxkZAvVrlu4-00435-00097736-00098094 east east bumbletown texas no they're LxkZAvVrlu4-00436-00098095-00098335 usually pretty available where where we LxkZAvVrlu4-00437-00098336-00098543 know faculty members LxkZAvVrlu4-00438-00098544-00098703 generally that we can get university LxkZAvVrlu4-00439-00098704-00098855 access LxkZAvVrlu4-00440-00098856-00099150 so the what shawn is kind of alluding to LxkZAvVrlu4-00441-00099151-00099374 is the linux foundation gives like LxkZAvVrlu4-00442-00099375-00099647 working with them they are amazing and LxkZAvVrlu4-00443-00099648-00099847 they provide LxkZAvVrlu4-00444-00099848-00099982 a room LxkZAvVrlu4-00445-00099983-00100287 they provide support for registration LxkZAvVrlu4-00446-00100288-00100487 we get on the website you know for like LxkZAvVrlu4-00447-00100488-00100631 open source summit europe there are so LxkZAvVrlu4-00448-00100632-00100806 many things that we get LxkZAvVrlu4-00449-00100807-00100926 but LxkZAvVrlu4-00450-00100927-00101191 as was pointed out we have this this LxkZAvVrlu4-00451-00101192-00101350 registration LxkZAvVrlu4-00452-00101351-00101503 question LxkZAvVrlu4-00453-00101504-00101743 if we decouple we don't get those other LxkZAvVrlu4-00454-00101744-00101911 things LxkZAvVrlu4-00455-00101912-00102023 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00456-00102024-00102247 but we can provide broader access LxkZAvVrlu4-00457-00102248-00102399 because you don't have to register LxkZAvVrlu4-00458-00102400-00102623 through the the linux foundation or we LxkZAvVrlu4-00459-00102624-00102951 could maybe try to find a way LxkZAvVrlu4-00460-00102952-00103142 to i don't know LxkZAvVrlu4-00461-00103143-00103382 to work more deliberately with the lf in LxkZAvVrlu4-00462-00103383-00103566 the future LxkZAvVrlu4-00463-00103567-00103678 you know what i mean so that we would LxkZAvVrlu4-00464-00103679-00103886 still have on-site and they could still LxkZAvVrlu4-00465-00103888-00104071 register for that seems like a fairly LxkZAvVrlu4-00466-00104072-00104294 big ask though to say LxkZAvVrlu4-00467-00104295-00104510 pass registration through LxkZAvVrlu4-00468-00104511-00104710 except for chaos con do people have LxkZAvVrlu4-00469-00104711-00104999 thoughts on this LxkZAvVrlu4-00470-00105000-00105383 um i think that many people have mixed LxkZAvVrlu4-00471-00105383-00105671 feelings for the conferences like for LxkZAvVrlu4-00472-00105672-00105839 open source summit LxkZAvVrlu4-00473-00105840-00106071 and things like that because they seem a LxkZAvVrlu4-00474-00106072-00106271 little bit too corporate LxkZAvVrlu4-00475-00106272-00106534 yeah and the people from the free LxkZAvVrlu4-00476-00106535-00106734 software communities maybe it's not LxkZAvVrlu4-00477-00106735-00106999 their favorite conference to go to and LxkZAvVrlu4-00478-00107000-00107239 they feel like chaos con is something LxkZAvVrlu4-00479-00107240-00107486 that's very close to the community LxkZAvVrlu4-00480-00107488-00107766 which i guess that many many people for LxkZAvVrlu4-00481-00107767-00107943 example that are LxkZAvVrlu4-00482-00107944-00108102 um that go to foster them would LxkZAvVrlu4-00483-00108103-00108295 definitely love to LxkZAvVrlu4-00484-00108296-00108534 go to chaos con but i'm not sure if they LxkZAvVrlu4-00485-00108535-00108751 would like to go to a LxkZAvVrlu4-00486-00108752-00108823 to LxkZAvVrlu4-00487-00108824-00109039 an open source summit right LxkZAvVrlu4-00488-00109040-00109183 they have different LxkZAvVrlu4-00489-00109183-00109399 in my opinion they have very different LxkZAvVrlu4-00490-00109400-00109766 um target groups of people probably so i LxkZAvVrlu4-00491-00109767-00109934 guess that uh LxkZAvVrlu4-00492-00109935-00110175 being like as a separate team from the LxkZAvVrlu4-00493-00110176-00110463 events of the linux foundation LxkZAvVrlu4-00494-00110464-00110743 i think that maybe we might not have LxkZAvVrlu4-00495-00110744-00111023 those benefits as you mentioned that and LxkZAvVrlu4-00496-00111024-00111127 maybe LxkZAvVrlu4-00497-00111128-00111351 not a lot of money due to the tickets LxkZAvVrlu4-00498-00111352-00111631 and so on but i guess that it would be LxkZAvVrlu4-00499-00111632-00111943 more accessible for people to join LxkZAvVrlu4-00500-00111944-00112158 and i think that we would have more LxkZAvVrlu4-00501-00112159-00112334 audience LxkZAvVrlu4-00502-00112335-00112599 many others LxkZAvVrlu4-00503-00112600-00112966 yep and so okay that's um LxkZAvVrlu4-00504-00112967-00113166 i hear you on that LxkZAvVrlu4-00505-00113167-00113383 and i would say that you know we do a LxkZAvVrlu4-00506-00113383-00113558 chaos con LxkZAvVrlu4-00507-00113559-00113831 at least we have in the past with with LxkZAvVrlu4-00508-00113832-00114127 fosdem but you know like corona kind of LxkZAvVrlu4-00509-00114128-00114471 screwed all that up but um LxkZAvVrlu4-00510-00114472-00114607 and it was really well attended at LxkZAvVrlu4-00511-00114608-00114815 fosdem too so LxkZAvVrlu4-00512-00114816-00115078 um and i completely agree christie it's LxkZAvVrlu4-00513-00115079-00115431 a they are very different audiences LxkZAvVrlu4-00514-00115432-00115702 that attend the conferences LxkZAvVrlu4-00515-00115703-00116007 um okay so your your thoughts christy LxkZAvVrlu4-00516-00116008-00116151 are LxkZAvVrlu4-00517-00116152-00116423 perhaps to decouple them LxkZAvVrlu4-00518-00116424-00116615 yeah i mean okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00519-00116616-00116815 all benefits are so good and it'll be LxkZAvVrlu4-00520-00116816-00117078 good to have them even if we LxkZAvVrlu4-00521-00117079-00117343 um even if we separate but yeah in my LxkZAvVrlu4-00522-00117344-00117463 opinion LxkZAvVrlu4-00523-00117464-00117758 i i suspect that we'll still have chaos LxkZAvVrlu4-00524-00117759-00118023 cons associated with open source summit LxkZAvVrlu4-00525-00118024-00118271 europe or north america LxkZAvVrlu4-00526-00118272-00118510 um and one like the cycle that seemed to LxkZAvVrlu4-00527-00118511-00118719 work really well was one with high LxkZAvVrlu4-00528-00118720-00118975 precious the cycle that seemed to work LxkZAvVrlu4-00529-00118976-00119143 really well was the open source summit LxkZAvVrlu4-00530-00119144-00119334 north america LxkZAvVrlu4-00531-00119335-00119519 you know like a chaos con and we could LxkZAvVrlu4-00532-00119520-00119647 separate that LxkZAvVrlu4-00533-00119648-00120127 um and then the other was with fosdem LxkZAvVrlu4-00534-00120128-00120278 okay i assume LxkZAvVrlu4-00535-00120279-00120543 yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00536-00120544-00120751 yeah for the foster it's excellent i LxkZAvVrlu4-00537-00120752-00120854 think LxkZAvVrlu4-00538-00120855-00120943 that's LxkZAvVrlu4-00539-00120944-00121214 only going to grow in terms of LxkZAvVrlu4-00540-00121215-00121358 people joining LxkZAvVrlu4-00541-00121359-00121519 yeah and that would that would help too LxkZAvVrlu4-00542-00121520-00121686 because it is two different audiences i LxkZAvVrlu4-00543-00121688-00121951 mean chaos is a linux foundation project LxkZAvVrlu4-00544-00121952-00122110 so i do think it's important for us to LxkZAvVrlu4-00545-00122111-00122351 be at least LxkZAvVrlu4-00546-00122352-00122510 like have a chaos con with one of the LxkZAvVrlu4-00547-00122511-00122734 conferences LxkZAvVrlu4-00548-00122735-00122895 but it still could be decoupled i don't LxkZAvVrlu4-00549-00122896-00123151 think there's any any problem there LxkZAvVrlu4-00550-00123152-00123247 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00551-00123248-00123558 cool LxkZAvVrlu4-00552-00123559-00124463 um any other thoughts on this LxkZAvVrlu4-00553-00124464-00124678 all right uh thank you for the feedback LxkZAvVrlu4-00554-00124679-00125023 i this is really great LxkZAvVrlu4-00555-00125024-00125223 thank you okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00556-00125224-00125527 we have the other thing that's di LxkZAvVrlu4-00557-00125528-00125631 badging LxkZAvVrlu4-00558-00125632-00126190 for chaos con europe LxkZAvVrlu4-00559-00126191-00126399 this is me again hi LxkZAvVrlu4-00560-00126400-00126495 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00561-00126496-00126583 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00562-00126583-00126734 this is just a question that comes up LxkZAvVrlu4-00563-00126735-00126847 all the time LxkZAvVrlu4-00564-00126848-00127071 should we submit LxkZAvVrlu4-00565-00127072-00127558 uh chaos con for a dei event badge LxkZAvVrlu4-00566-00127559-00127814 wait that seems like we should seems LxkZAvVrlu4-00567-00127815-00127983 like we should but then we're reviewing LxkZAvVrlu4-00568-00127983-00128166 ourselves which also seems a little LxkZAvVrlu4-00569-00128167-00128278 weird LxkZAvVrlu4-00570-00128279-00128454 yeah it doesn't want that i think you LxkZAvVrlu4-00571-00128455-00128607 should LxkZAvVrlu4-00572-00128608-00128790 you think we should or shouldn't LxkZAvVrlu4-00573-00128791-00128902 we should LxkZAvVrlu4-00574-00128903-00129214 okay i got two votes for should LxkZAvVrlu4-00575-00129215-00129431 yeah plus one from me too LxkZAvVrlu4-00576-00129432-00129527 okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00577-00129528-00129951 all right i will let us know LxkZAvVrlu4-00578-00129952-00130086 and okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00579-00130088-00130319 i'm getting four four yeses from this LxkZAvVrlu4-00580-00130320-00130583 group so that seems like it's a LxkZAvVrlu4-00581-00130583-00130823 uh definitely a yes okay thank you i LxkZAvVrlu4-00582-00130824-00131039 will bring that back to the LxkZAvVrlu4-00583-00131040-00131454 all right five it's LxkZAvVrlu4-00584-00131455-00131647 that seems like a LxkZAvVrlu4-00585-00131648-00131911 unanimous all right cool thank you LxkZAvVrlu4-00586-00131912-00132054 i'll bring that back to the committee LxkZAvVrlu4-00587-00132055-00132247 and we will get that submitted LxkZAvVrlu4-00588-00132248-00132551 nice maybe we can change like for this LxkZAvVrlu4-00589-00132552-00132823 specific uh event we can just change the LxkZAvVrlu4-00590-00132824-00133102 reviewers LxkZAvVrlu4-00591-00133103-00133343 we probably should so that it's not the LxkZAvVrlu4-00592-00133344-00133631 event organizers reviewing LxkZAvVrlu4-00593-00133632-00133743 the event LxkZAvVrlu4-00594-00133744-00133902 it doesn't seem that doesn't seem LxkZAvVrlu4-00595-00133903-00134071 appropriate LxkZAvVrlu4-00596-00134072-00134295 but we can figure that out late LxkZAvVrlu4-00597-00134296-00134783 okay cool thank you welcome LxkZAvVrlu4-00598-00134784-00135063 i think uh so we have one other thing LxkZAvVrlu4-00599-00135064-00135183 it's uh LxkZAvVrlu4-00600-00135184-00135414 my talk at uh LxkZAvVrlu4-00601-00135415-00135614 yeah i've got that LxkZAvVrlu4-00602-00135615-00135943 okay yeah so uh my talk for LxkZAvVrlu4-00603-00135944-00136071 um LxkZAvVrlu4-00604-00136072-00136295 the open source summit europe was LxkZAvVrlu4-00605-00136296-00136447 accepted LxkZAvVrlu4-00606-00136448-00136719 um so the topic um is LxkZAvVrlu4-00607-00136720-00136975 building like i'm kind of like sharing LxkZAvVrlu4-00608-00136976-00137366 a full-course eras at a ddi group and LxkZAvVrlu4-00609-00137367-00137495 you know share LxkZAvVrlu4-00610-00137496-00137702 part of the work or all of the work with LxkZAvVrlu4-00611-00137703-00137951 you here at rdi LxkZAvVrlu4-00612-00137952-00138207 doing the talk so yeah i just want to LxkZAvVrlu4-00613-00138208-00138439 put out there my talk was accepted hey LxkZAvVrlu4-00614-00138440-00138631 congratulations LxkZAvVrlu4-00615-00138632-00138823 thank you that's awesome so you're going LxkZAvVrlu4-00616-00138824-00138975 to be there LxkZAvVrlu4-00617-00138976-00139159 yeah i'm planning to be there i i think LxkZAvVrlu4-00618-00139160-00139390 i did apply for travel funding so i LxkZAvVrlu4-00619-00139391-00139663 think by july 28th LxkZAvVrlu4-00620-00139664-00139759 okay LxkZAvVrlu4-00621-00139760-00140039 if i didn't find out before then LxkZAvVrlu4-00622-00140040-00140239 yeah i'm trying to i'm planning to be LxkZAvVrlu4-00623-00140240-00140439 very impressive so okay well keep me LxkZAvVrlu4-00624-00140440-00140599 posted would you ruth LxkZAvVrlu4-00625-00140600-00141151 sure i will okay cool right on LxkZAvVrlu4-00626-00141152-00141311 great LxkZAvVrlu4-00627-00141312-00142839 congratulations royal LxkZAvVrlu4-00628-00142840-00143039 well actually we're at the end LxkZAvVrlu4-00629-00143040-00143126 yeah LxkZAvVrlu4-00630-00143127-00143199 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00631-00143200-00143326 we have LxkZAvVrlu4-00632-00143327-00144214 something else that we want to discuss LxkZAvVrlu4-00633-00144215-00144439 yeah honestly like the LxkZAvVrlu4-00634-00144440-00144695 i just have to say the impact that this LxkZAvVrlu4-00635-00144696-00144902 the dei working group LxkZAvVrlu4-00636-00144903-00145287 has made in the chaos project is immense LxkZAvVrlu4-00637-00145288-00145366 so LxkZAvVrlu4-00638-00145367-00145543 um just thank you for everybody's for LxkZAvVrlu4-00639-00145544-00145751 everybody's work and commitment it's LxkZAvVrlu4-00640-00145752-00145935 amazing LxkZAvVrlu4-00641-00145936-00146351 awesome thank you LxkZAvVrlu4-00642-00146352-00146575 thank you everybody for LxkZAvVrlu4-00643-00146576-00146919 joining the meeting this week and see LxkZAvVrlu4-00644-00146920-00147031 you all LxkZAvVrlu4-00645-00147032-00147263 next wednesday till then have a good LxkZAvVrlu4-00646-00147264-00147463 week okay thank you everybody it's good LxkZAvVrlu4-00647-00147464-00147575 to see you all LxkZAvVrlu4-00648-00147576-00147988 yeah bye everyone bye LyvGY46B2Bo-00000-00001998-00002351 like to request and invite on stage our LyvGY46B2Bo-00001-00002352-00002650 keynote speaker of the day Mrs Avita LyvGY46B2Bo-00002-00002651-00003065 Dani co-owner for Chennai in FC and utt LyvGY46B2Bo-00003-00003066-00003329 she will be speaking on the topic the LyvGY46B2Bo-00004-00003329-00003586 rise of challenges of non-cricket sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00005-00003588-00003935 in India quite a Hot Topic today this LyvGY46B2Bo-00006-00003936-00004175 morning Miss Vita Dani is the co-owner LyvGY46B2Bo-00007-00004176-00004385 of China Yen football club and the LyvGY46B2Bo-00008-00004386-00004579 chairperson of the ultimate trade tennis LyvGY46B2Bo-00009-00004580-00004847 she is also the co-founder of Dani LyvGY46B2Bo-00010-00004848-00005009 Foundation which supports initiatives LyvGY46B2Bo-00011-00005010-00005291 such as Elms Sports foundation and LyvGY46B2Bo-00012-00005292-00005561 namrata project Mumbai and coupled LyvGY46B2Bo-00013-00005562-00005825 kapadvansh keralani mandal that focuses LyvGY46B2Bo-00014-00005826-00006095 on achieving sustainable development LyvGY46B2Bo-00015-00006096-00006311 goals so we welcome her with a round of LyvGY46B2Bo-00016-00006312-00006587 applause on stage and let's now now tune LyvGY46B2Bo-00017-00006588-00006748 in to her address ladies and Gentlemen LyvGY46B2Bo-00018-00006750-00006917 please welcome with a round of applause LyvGY46B2Bo-00019-00006918-00007223 Miss Vita Dani LyvGY46B2Bo-00020-00007223-00008471 welcome you LyvGY46B2Bo-00021-00008472-00008753 a very good morning to each and every LyvGY46B2Bo-00022-00008754-00008963 one of you attending this Sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00023-00008964-00009191 Marketing conclave today LyvGY46B2Bo-00024-00009192-00009485 and uh thank you to exchange for media LyvGY46B2Bo-00025-00009486-00009737 and group M for inviting me here today LyvGY46B2Bo-00026-00009738-00010151 it's a great honor LyvGY46B2Bo-00027-00010152-00010474 Victor Hugo said that you cannot stop LyvGY46B2Bo-00028-00010475-00010805 anyone whose time has come LyvGY46B2Bo-00029-00010806-00011074 and I think India's time has come LyvGY46B2Bo-00030-00011075-00011392 there is no better time than now to hold LyvGY46B2Bo-00031-00011393-00011603 a congregation like this LyvGY46B2Bo-00032-00011604-00011856 and I'm sure all of you will benefit LyvGY46B2Bo-00033-00011857-00012106 from the different sessions that are LyvGY46B2Bo-00034-00012107-00012335 going to be held today LyvGY46B2Bo-00035-00012336-00012785 India accounts for almost 18 percent of LyvGY46B2Bo-00036-00012786-00012958 world's population LyvGY46B2Bo-00037-00012959-00013301 we consume almost everything here in LyvGY46B2Bo-00038-00013302-00013613 equal measure goods and services LyvGY46B2Bo-00039-00013613-00013879 religion and tradition LyvGY46B2Bo-00040-00013880-00014158 entertainment and fantasy LyvGY46B2Bo-00041-00014159-00014458 and Cricket in India brings two of these LyvGY46B2Bo-00042-00014459-00014663 together LyvGY46B2Bo-00043-00014663-00014944 it is the national entertainment LyvGY46B2Bo-00044-00014945-00015365 and also for some it's a religion LyvGY46B2Bo-00045-00015366-00015557 however LyvGY46B2Bo-00046-00015558-00015905 India is a country of many religions LyvGY46B2Bo-00047-00015906-00016229 and in the same way it's also a country LyvGY46B2Bo-00048-00016230-00016499 of many sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00049-00016500-00016769 and this is because you know even in the LyvGY46B2Bo-00050-00016770-00017044 tiniest and the coldest and the smallest LyvGY46B2Bo-00051-00017045-00017333 and the hottest place everybody is LyvGY46B2Bo-00052-00017334-00017567 passionate about Cricket but I think LyvGY46B2Bo-00053-00017568-00017789 slowly this is changing LyvGY46B2Bo-00054-00017790-00018035 to me more than any other social LyvGY46B2Bo-00055-00018036-00018515 cultural activity literature music film LyvGY46B2Bo-00056-00018516-00018779 it is only sport that's the greatest LyvGY46B2Bo-00057-00018780-00018977 unifier LyvGY46B2Bo-00058-00018978-00019241 so we are at that inflection point right LyvGY46B2Bo-00059-00019242-00019319 now LyvGY46B2Bo-00060-00019320-00019649 and as I begin my address to all of you LyvGY46B2Bo-00061-00019650-00019925 here today I'd like to acknowledge that LyvGY46B2Bo-00062-00019926-00020236 only a collaborative effort at the LyvGY46B2Bo-00063-00020237-00020519 grassroot level and at the help of media LyvGY46B2Bo-00064-00020520-00020803 Central and the state governments LyvGY46B2Bo-00065-00020804-00021214 corporate sponsors and broadcasters that LyvGY46B2Bo-00066-00021215-00021455 is going to launch the Indian spot to LyvGY46B2Bo-00067-00021456-00021617 its next phase LyvGY46B2Bo-00068-00021618-00021994 so as we go from the 75th to the 100th LyvGY46B2Bo-00069-00021995-00022355 year of our Independent India we will LyvGY46B2Bo-00070-00022356-00022643 see a golden period where we will see LyvGY46B2Bo-00071-00022644-00022997 Affordable Health Care Fitness in daily LyvGY46B2Bo-00072-00022998-00023357 routine in young India and also in the LyvGY46B2Bo-00073-00023358-00023543 Aging population LyvGY46B2Bo-00074-00023544-00023891 surely Sports and Fitness will improve LyvGY46B2Bo-00075-00023892-00024203 the health of our nation and we need to LyvGY46B2Bo-00076-00024204-00024449 ensure that we are not the diabetic LyvGY46B2Bo-00077-00024450-00024671 capital of the world LyvGY46B2Bo-00078-00024672-00024964 our Olympic contingent gave us seven LyvGY46B2Bo-00079-00024965-00025450 medals in 2021 and honestly I think it's LyvGY46B2Bo-00080-00025451-00025637 only the starting point I mean it's LyvGY46B2Bo-00081-00025638-00025912 going to take a while as pulela rightly LyvGY46B2Bo-00082-00025913-00026212 said it's not a short term aim it takes LyvGY46B2Bo-00083-00026213-00026512 10 years for any player to really mature LyvGY46B2Bo-00084-00026513-00026674 and be all there LyvGY46B2Bo-00085-00026675-00026908 so it's the potential of young people of LyvGY46B2Bo-00086-00026910-00027214 India the tech savvy the passionate LyvGY46B2Bo-00087-00027216-00027437 young India that wants to give back to LyvGY46B2Bo-00088-00027438-00027635 the society LyvGY46B2Bo-00089-00027636-00027851 and what will make a difference in the LyvGY46B2Bo-00090-00027852-00028151 coming 25 years from any other Indian LyvGY46B2Bo-00091-00028152-00028535 Era or any other country of the world is LyvGY46B2Bo-00092-00028536-00028840 how we do in the next 25 years LyvGY46B2Bo-00093-00028841-00029262 India will host the ioc session in 2023 LyvGY46B2Bo-00094-00029263-00029687 and this honor has come again to us for LyvGY46B2Bo-00095-00029688-00030058 the second time after almost 39 years LyvGY46B2Bo-00096-00030060-00030257 and the recent announcement made by The LyvGY46B2Bo-00097-00030258-00030490 Honorable Sports Minister on India's bid LyvGY46B2Bo-00098-00030491-00030796 to host the Olympic games has delighted LyvGY46B2Bo-00099-00030797-00031049 me so that is I don't think any other LyvGY46B2Bo-00100-00031050-00031361 time better time than to host it now LyvGY46B2Bo-00101-00031362-00031564 the Olympic games are not only about LyvGY46B2Bo-00102-00031566-00031852 building physical infrastructure but LyvGY46B2Bo-00103-00031854-00032183 it's also identifying Talent from rural LyvGY46B2Bo-00104-00032183-00032435 India from the real Grassroots all LyvGY46B2Bo-00105-00032436-00032674 across the country and it's all about LyvGY46B2Bo-00106-00032675-00033023 encouraging people to play one or LyvGY46B2Bo-00107-00033024-00033335 multiple Sports it's about accessing the LyvGY46B2Bo-00108-00033336-00033562 remotest place of India whether it be it LyvGY46B2Bo-00109-00033563-00033887 in Kashmir or maybe 120 odd aspirational LyvGY46B2Bo-00110-00033888-00034145 districts of India we don't know where LyvGY46B2Bo-00111-00034146-00034318 the next Champion is going to come from LyvGY46B2Bo-00112-00034319-00034505 whether he's going to be from haryana LyvGY46B2Bo-00113-00034506-00034685 whether he's going to be from Kashmir LyvGY46B2Bo-00114-00034686-00034912 whether he's going to be from jharkhand LyvGY46B2Bo-00115-00034913-00035237 from Northeast or maybe a thanjava LyvGY46B2Bo-00116-00035238-00035543 district in Tamil Nadu so I truly LyvGY46B2Bo-00117-00035544-00035824 believe that sport has the power to LyvGY46B2Bo-00118-00035825-00036124 amalgate the diversity of India and LyvGY46B2Bo-00119-00036125-00036431 integrate India and Bharat LyvGY46B2Bo-00120-00036432-00036712 as an Indian athlete are championing for LyvGY46B2Bo-00121-00036713-00036946 Global dominance The Honorable prime LyvGY46B2Bo-00122-00036947-00037235 minister's love for sport and its LyvGY46B2Bo-00123-00037236-00037493 stakeholders is a huge boost for LyvGY46B2Bo-00124-00037494-00037762 everyone as you've heard it in the LyvGY46B2Bo-00125-00037763-00037973 earlier session you know and it LyvGY46B2Bo-00126-00037974-00038268 definitely trickles down the entire LyvGY46B2Bo-00127-00038269-00038518 vertical you know everybody gets serious LyvGY46B2Bo-00128-00038519-00038767 about it so the Calo India program LyvGY46B2Bo-00129-00038768-00039124 stands a testament to modi's love for LyvGY46B2Bo-00130-00039125-00039479 commitment and support for sport LyvGY46B2Bo-00131-00039480-00039790 in the last five years India has hosted LyvGY46B2Bo-00132-00039791-00040043 maximum number of global sporting events LyvGY46B2Bo-00133-00040044-00040330 including the historic chess Olympiad in LyvGY46B2Bo-00134-00040331-00040583 Chennai which witnessed the LyvGY46B2Bo-00135-00040584-00040990 participation of 187 countries and I'm LyvGY46B2Bo-00136-00040991-00041224 sure this can be replicated in many LyvGY46B2Bo-00137-00041225-00041489 other sports so if you look at hockey LyvGY46B2Bo-00138-00041490-00041729 the World Cup is currently ongoing in LyvGY46B2Bo-00139-00041730-00042017 odisha international athletes and a LyvGY46B2Bo-00140-00042018-00042287 sports associations enjoy coming to LyvGY46B2Bo-00141-00042288-00042502 India and I'm glad that we have LyvGY46B2Bo-00142-00042503-00042712 successfully embodied the sense of LyvGY46B2Bo-00143-00042713-00043049 atithi Deva bhava as part of our Sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00144-00043050-00043187 initiative LyvGY46B2Bo-00145-00043188-00043552 when India gets fit it means we will LyvGY46B2Bo-00146-00043553-00043823 need many more equipments of world-class LyvGY46B2Bo-00147-00043824-00044152 standards and safety this will ensure LyvGY46B2Bo-00148-00044153-00044465 the Indian manufacturing industry will LyvGY46B2Bo-00149-00044466-00044818 witness a huge growth it will it can LyvGY46B2Bo-00150-00044819-00045052 make you know we can make products in LyvGY46B2Bo-00151-00045053-00045352 India at competitive cost and of LyvGY46B2Bo-00152-00045353-00045652 International Quality Indian Brands can LyvGY46B2Bo-00153-00045653-00045911 serve not only to the budding athletes LyvGY46B2Bo-00154-00045912-00046217 from our country but also from rest of LyvGY46B2Bo-00155-00046218-00046312 the world LyvGY46B2Bo-00156-00046313-00046540 and we need to keep in mind the National LyvGY46B2Bo-00157-00046541-00046901 Education policy that allows students to LyvGY46B2Bo-00158-00046902-00047183 pursue passion both in academic subjects LyvGY46B2Bo-00159-00047184-00047524 as well as in other laterals of sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00160-00047525-00047843 and this will lead to job creation as LyvGY46B2Bo-00161-00047844-00048196 Sports administrators in media in even LyvGY46B2Bo-00162-00048197-00048473 management as part of the entire LyvGY46B2Bo-00163-00048474-00048737 sporting landscape LyvGY46B2Bo-00164-00048738-00049240 the average age of today's India is 29 LyvGY46B2Bo-00165-00049241-00049337 years LyvGY46B2Bo-00166-00049338-00049696 and in these 29 years old LyvGY46B2Bo-00167-00049697-00049973 who can use the data available to LyvGY46B2Bo-00168-00049974-00050249 develop digital Solutions not only for LyvGY46B2Bo-00169-00050250-00050530 India but also for rest of the world LyvGY46B2Bo-00170-00050531-00050801 we will need public private Partnerships LyvGY46B2Bo-00171-00050802-00051089 to maintain and monetize the LyvGY46B2Bo-00172-00051090-00051340 infrastructure in sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00173-00051341-00051664 we can measure progress based on LyvGY46B2Bo-00174-00051665-00051940 diversity and inclusion LyvGY46B2Bo-00175-00051941-00052325 and diversity includes participation of LyvGY46B2Bo-00176-00052326-00052566 divyang or even LyvGY46B2Bo-00177-00052567-00052997 differently abled and data shows how LyvGY46B2Bo-00178-00052998-00053357 well we as a country have done in Para LyvGY46B2Bo-00179-00053358-00053675 Sports we have actually got more medals LyvGY46B2Bo-00180-00053676-00054100 in parisport than in regular Sports just LyvGY46B2Bo-00181-00054101-00054359 to really when you deep dive into this LyvGY46B2Bo-00182-00054360-00054497 data LyvGY46B2Bo-00183-00054498-00054869 and inclusion and diversity has become LyvGY46B2Bo-00184-00054870-00055121 part of the mainstream this will LyvGY46B2Bo-00185-00055122-00055397 increase the number of consumers it will LyvGY46B2Bo-00186-00055398-00055691 Inc you know also more sponsors will LyvGY46B2Bo-00187-00055691-00055963 come in as there is more consumption LyvGY46B2Bo-00188-00055964-00056344 today I don't think there is enough CSR LyvGY46B2Bo-00189-00056345-00056644 money coming into sports but CSR LyvGY46B2Bo-00190-00056645-00056909 contribution can go up if we see LyvGY46B2Bo-00191-00056910-00057166 value-based self-development LyvGY46B2Bo-00192-00057167-00057504 be it in Grassroots or Elite Sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00193-00057505-00057880 philanthropy can keep metal prospects LyvGY46B2Bo-00194-00057882-00058288 and Pursuits and this lays emphasis on LyvGY46B2Bo-00195-00058289-00058594 the importance of sports science and LyvGY46B2Bo-00196-00058595-00058703 medicine LyvGY46B2Bo-00197-00058704-00058973 sport not only develops leadership LyvGY46B2Bo-00198-00058974-00059357 qualities but also keeps people fit LyvGY46B2Bo-00199-00059358-00059632 and here we cannot miss the contribution LyvGY46B2Bo-00200-00059633-00059903 and achievement of women LyvGY46B2Bo-00201-00059904-00060226 once again data shows that women have LyvGY46B2Bo-00202-00060227-00060611 won more medals for our country be it PV LyvGY46B2Bo-00203-00060612-00060929 Sindhu for badminton or manika batra for LyvGY46B2Bo-00204-00060929-00061259 table tennis as key members of athlete LyvGY46B2Bo-00205-00061260-00061679 commission lovelina Burgoyne for boxing LyvGY46B2Bo-00206-00061679-00061991 women are also playing a role in LyvGY46B2Bo-00207-00061991-00062291 defining the course of sports globally LyvGY46B2Bo-00208-00062291-00062573 of course you'd have seen Mary comb PT LyvGY46B2Bo-00209-00062574-00062800 Usha I mean this list can go on and on LyvGY46B2Bo-00210-00062801-00062957 and on LyvGY46B2Bo-00211-00062958-00063316 so India's appetite for multi-spot event LyvGY46B2Bo-00212-00063317-00063647 is clear with the Olympics the Asian LyvGY46B2Bo-00213-00063648-00063953 Games The Commonwealth Games as well as LyvGY46B2Bo-00214-00063954-00064235 as multiple sport leagues that have LyvGY46B2Bo-00215-00064236-00064463 piqued the interest of not only sport LyvGY46B2Bo-00216-00064464-00064799 fans but also grand marketeers LyvGY46B2Bo-00217-00064800-00065154 and as a as fans chose their sports LyvGY46B2Bo-00218-00065155-00065513 brands have also chosen or identified LyvGY46B2Bo-00219-00065514-00065776 different spots that they'd like to LyvGY46B2Bo-00220-00065777-00066053 support and be associated with LyvGY46B2Bo-00221-00066054-00066431 one such story is also of Apollo tires LyvGY46B2Bo-00222-00066432-00066706 and football I'm not sure if Vikram LyvGY46B2Bo-00223-00066707-00066929 garga is still here or not but if he is LyvGY46B2Bo-00224-00066930-00067147 here he will perhaps share his story LyvGY46B2Bo-00225-00067148-00067450 that of Apollo tires and Chennai LyvGY46B2Bo-00226-00067451-00067606 Football Club LyvGY46B2Bo-00227-00067607-00067853 which is now in its six years of LyvGY46B2Bo-00228-00067854-00068003 Association LyvGY46B2Bo-00229-00068004-00068381 as per CII and KPMG report sponsorship LyvGY46B2Bo-00230-00068382-00068794 of values have seen 300 percent rise in LyvGY46B2Bo-00231-00068795-00069269 kabaddi 92 percent in football and 53 LyvGY46B2Bo-00232-00069270-00069635 percent in Marathon in fact I was there LyvGY46B2Bo-00233-00069636-00069844 at the Mumbai Marathon just last weekend LyvGY46B2Bo-00234-00069845-00070037 I mean even pulela was there and I'm LyvGY46B2Bo-00235-00070038-00070349 sure some of you were there as well LyvGY46B2Bo-00236-00070350-00070606 and the number of people that showed up LyvGY46B2Bo-00237-00070607-00070906 at that hour in the morning LyvGY46B2Bo-00238-00070907-00071200 I think it was a telling sign and it was LyvGY46B2Bo-00239-00071201-00071519 a mass participation I think it was a LyvGY46B2Bo-00240-00071520-00071873 mass celebration if I may put it so then LyvGY46B2Bo-00241-00071874-00072125 a number of sporting leagues have LyvGY46B2Bo-00242-00072126-00072388 followed suits after the Advent of IPL LyvGY46B2Bo-00243-00072389-00072611 in 2008. LyvGY46B2Bo-00244-00072612-00072971 sporting leaks inject the ecosystem of LyvGY46B2Bo-00245-00072972-00073291 sports with professionalism exposure LyvGY46B2Bo-00246-00073292-00073655 competitiveness and economic boost and LyvGY46B2Bo-00247-00073656-00073865 is speaking of such leagues you may have LyvGY46B2Bo-00248-00073866-00074105 noticed the ultimate table tennis Zone LyvGY46B2Bo-00249-00074106-00074338 as you walked in here Tubidy LyvGY46B2Bo-00250-00074339-00074579 and well if you haven't seen then surely LyvGY46B2Bo-00251-00074580-00074806 we have not done a good job LyvGY46B2Bo-00252-00074807-00075041 so when my team and I conceptualize LyvGY46B2Bo-00253-00075042-00075256 ultimate table tennis a few years ago LyvGY46B2Bo-00254-00075257-00075575 the idea was exactly to do the same for LyvGY46B2Bo-00255-00075576-00075832 Indian table tennis the starting point LyvGY46B2Bo-00256-00075833-00076103 was to make noise and boost Fanfare LyvGY46B2Bo-00257-00076104-00076367 around the sport rather than focusing LyvGY46B2Bo-00258-00076368-00076612 just on economics but of course having LyvGY46B2Bo-00259-00076613-00077003 said that we really run our league in a LyvGY46B2Bo-00260-00077004-00077238 very economically LyvGY46B2Bo-00261-00077239-00077597 what should I say cost effective manner LyvGY46B2Bo-00262-00077598-00077861 and in order to encourage participation LyvGY46B2Bo-00263-00077862-00078082 not only from the franchisees but also LyvGY46B2Bo-00264-00078083-00078388 from the broadcasters and brands so our LyvGY46B2Bo-00265-00078389-00078599 primary objective is to bring LyvGY46B2Bo-00266-00078600-00078856 world-class table tennis action to India LyvGY46B2Bo-00267-00078857-00079175 on regular basis and familiarize Indian LyvGY46B2Bo-00268-00079176-00079523 paddlers to sport fans in our country LyvGY46B2Bo-00269-00079524-00079753 if numbers are anything to do with that LyvGY46B2Bo-00270-00079754-00080117 utt has seen equal participation from LyvGY46B2Bo-00271-00080118-00080315 men and women LyvGY46B2Bo-00272-00080316-00080621 also the ultimate table tennis in its LyvGY46B2Bo-00273-00080622-00080849 three years has also witnessed a healthy LyvGY46B2Bo-00274-00080850-00081112 split of terms viewership across urban LyvGY46B2Bo-00275-00081113-00081455 and rural India and also now globally LyvGY46B2Bo-00276-00081456-00081803 because we stream our league across the LyvGY46B2Bo-00277-00081804-00082049 world in different time zones and now LyvGY46B2Bo-00278-00082050-00082379 with coming in with 5G leaks such as utt LyvGY46B2Bo-00279-00082380-00082661 will only attract more eyeballs LyvGY46B2Bo-00280-00082662-00082853 of course we are very excited with the LyvGY46B2Bo-00281-00082854-00083135 new Viacom strategy and I'm sure many LyvGY46B2Bo-00282-00083136-00083405 modules follow so everybody from Star I LyvGY46B2Bo-00283-00083406-00083675 hope you all are listening LyvGY46B2Bo-00284-00083676-00084035 we must be special heed to a fantastic LyvGY46B2Bo-00285-00084036-00084317 broadcasters that believe in sport for LyvGY46B2Bo-00286-00084318-00084647 its growth I mean if broadcasters did LyvGY46B2Bo-00287-00084648-00084887 not believe in the power of such leaks LyvGY46B2Bo-00288-00084888-00085138 we may have never seen an indigenous LyvGY46B2Bo-00289-00085139-00085312 spot like kabaddi go through such an LyvGY46B2Bo-00290-00085313-00085606 exponential rise that it has in last few LyvGY46B2Bo-00291-00085607-00085715 years LyvGY46B2Bo-00292-00085716-00085855 we have over LyvGY46B2Bo-00293-00085856-00086200 840 million internet users LyvGY46B2Bo-00294-00086201-00086482 we have 800 million people using LyvGY46B2Bo-00295-00086483-00086665 smartphones LyvGY46B2Bo-00296-00086666-00087041 210 million household consuming content LyvGY46B2Bo-00297-00087042-00087311 on television LyvGY46B2Bo-00298-00087312-00087544 and thereby there's a huge platform LyvGY46B2Bo-00299-00087545-00087653 available LyvGY46B2Bo-00300-00087654-00087887 to build brands LyvGY46B2Bo-00301-00087888-00088121 and while brands have already begun LyvGY46B2Bo-00302-00088122-00088373 realizing the potential of sports smart LyvGY46B2Bo-00303-00088374-00088805 marketing Esports is a big part of the LyvGY46B2Bo-00304-00088806-00088931 future LyvGY46B2Bo-00305-00088932-00089344 here we have to Target the 5 to 10 year LyvGY46B2Bo-00306-00089345-00089681 old kids and data available has LyvGY46B2Bo-00307-00089682-00089843 democraticized LyvGY46B2Bo-00308-00089844-00090173 access to this young India LyvGY46B2Bo-00309-00090174-00090568 we can be leaders or pioneers in these LyvGY46B2Bo-00310-00090569-00090917 emerging areas and here I'm happy to LyvGY46B2Bo-00311-00090918-00091247 report that Chennai and FC's esport team LyvGY46B2Bo-00312-00091248-00091582 became the inaugural champions of the LyvGY46B2Bo-00313-00091583-00091979 first ESL conducted last year LyvGY46B2Bo-00314-00091980-00092362 in order to become thank you in order to LyvGY46B2Bo-00315-00092363-00092705 become Global sporting Powerhouse we LyvGY46B2Bo-00316-00092706-00092981 must have a holistic Outlook towards LyvGY46B2Bo-00317-00092982-00093287 growing its ecosystem and that means LyvGY46B2Bo-00318-00093288-00093581 starting right at the bottom LyvGY46B2Bo-00319-00093582-00093965 at Grassroots level and I can speak from LyvGY46B2Bo-00320-00093966-00094265 experience in case of Chennai and FC LyvGY46B2Bo-00321-00094266-00094571 where nine-year-old football club has LyvGY46B2Bo-00322-00094572-00094655 won LyvGY46B2Bo-00323-00094656-00095032 hero I sell twice already and now we are LyvGY46B2Bo-00324-00095033-00095129 working LyvGY46B2Bo-00325-00095130-00095399 and building on our Grassroots program LyvGY46B2Bo-00326-00095400-00095699 so we have four youth teams and that LyvGY46B2Bo-00327-00095700-00096023 means about 120 children that love LyvGY46B2Bo-00328-00096024-00096131 football LyvGY46B2Bo-00329-00096132-00096467 play professionally on daily basis just LyvGY46B2Bo-00330-00096468-00096749 in our district in our city LyvGY46B2Bo-00331-00096750-00097091 we also have 18 soccer school tie-ups LyvGY46B2Bo-00332-00097092-00097397 across Tamil Nadu and that creates an LyvGY46B2Bo-00333-00097398-00097750 ecosystem for over thousands of children LyvGY46B2Bo-00334-00097751-00097955 that play regularly LyvGY46B2Bo-00335-00097956-00098231 we have also begun training two girls LyvGY46B2Bo-00336-00098232-00098603 team that's under 13 and under 15 level LyvGY46B2Bo-00337-00098604-00098932 and all these efforts are aimed to be LyvGY46B2Bo-00338-00098933-00099275 able to feed first team that operates in LyvGY46B2Bo-00339-00099276-00099455 the Indian Super League LyvGY46B2Bo-00340-00099456-00099803 our efforts at M's foundation on the LyvGY46B2Bo-00341-00099804-00100062 other hand are helping one-lack children LyvGY46B2Bo-00342-00100063-00100444 across the country to ensure that they LyvGY46B2Bo-00343-00100445-00100781 have right to play via project chalang LyvGY46B2Bo-00344-00100782-00100991 where of course we work under the LyvGY46B2Bo-00345-00100992-00101297 guidance of pulela once again LyvGY46B2Bo-00346-00101298-00101644 and this reflects appropriately what we LyvGY46B2Bo-00347-00101645-00101938 as a multi-spot organization value the LyvGY46B2Bo-00348-00101939-00102221 most its capacity building and LyvGY46B2Bo-00349-00102222-00102425 Grassroots development LyvGY46B2Bo-00350-00102426-00102886 Sports is nothing without fans and it is LyvGY46B2Bo-00351-00102888-00103108 essential for broadcaster sports team LyvGY46B2Bo-00352-00103109-00103463 and League to ensure uphold Fan LyvGY46B2Bo-00353-00103464-00103775 Experience whether it's on Ott or it's LyvGY46B2Bo-00354-00103776-00104116 on TV whether it is in stadium or it's LyvGY46B2Bo-00355-00104117-00104482 on digital media platforms my team at LyvGY46B2Bo-00356-00104483-00104813 Chennai and FC is working extremely hard LyvGY46B2Bo-00357-00104814-00105131 on creating this experience for clubs LyvGY46B2Bo-00358-00105132-00105497 fans if you follow our social handle I'm LyvGY46B2Bo-00359-00105498-00105743 sure you will agree that we are ahead of LyvGY46B2Bo-00360-00105744-00106139 the Curve our relationship with our fans LyvGY46B2Bo-00361-00106140-00106510 and fan clubs has ensured Outreach LyvGY46B2Bo-00362-00106511-00106816 across the city of Chennai and Beyond LyvGY46B2Bo-00363-00106817-00107140 it is important for all stakeholders in LyvGY46B2Bo-00364-00107141-00107452 Indian sport to pay heed to demands of LyvGY46B2Bo-00365-00107453-00107801 Indian sport fans to ensure that we are LyvGY46B2Bo-00366-00107802-00108028 able to create curate world-class LyvGY46B2Bo-00367-00108029-00108371 sporting experience for them and keep LyvGY46B2Bo-00368-00108372-00108743 this appetite growing within India LyvGY46B2Bo-00369-00108744-00109060 and all this means is that we need to LyvGY46B2Bo-00370-00109061-00109360 create an enabling ecosystem LyvGY46B2Bo-00371-00109361-00109727 this is not only a responsibility but I LyvGY46B2Bo-00372-00109728-00109966 think this is a great opportunity for LyvGY46B2Bo-00373-00109967-00110140 all of us in the room LyvGY46B2Bo-00374-00110141-00110410 I'd like to close by saying that my LyvGY46B2Bo-00375-00110411-00110807 dream is to see 300 million children LyvGY46B2Bo-00376-00110808-00111136 play sport in school supporting the LyvGY46B2Bo-00377-00111138-00111443 government through policy creating an LyvGY46B2Bo-00378-00111444-00111707 environment for sport to thrive and LyvGY46B2Bo-00379-00111708-00111808 succeed LyvGY46B2Bo-00380-00111809-00112084 and kudos to States like uttar Pradesh LyvGY46B2Bo-00381-00112085-00112336 for coming out to in support of LyvGY46B2Bo-00382-00112338-00112697 wrestling odisha for hockey States like LyvGY46B2Bo-00383-00112698-00112949 Gujarat and madhya Pradesh who have set LyvGY46B2Bo-00384-00112950-00113297 up high performance facilities as well LyvGY46B2Bo-00385-00113298-00113621 and everyone is playing their part and LyvGY46B2Bo-00386-00113622-00114286 soon we will bear the fruits so from LyvGY46B2Bo-00387-00114288-00114719 to Amrit Khal India has to succeed it is LyvGY46B2Bo-00388-00114720-00115013 the partnership between citizens LyvGY46B2Bo-00389-00115014-00115402 corporates private institutions and the LyvGY46B2Bo-00390-00115403-00115708 government that will determine the cause LyvGY46B2Bo-00391-00115709-00116152 so the growth story for sport in India LyvGY46B2Bo-00392-00116153-00116471 is is at its first chapter LyvGY46B2Bo-00393-00116472-00116734 and there is a book to be written LyvGY46B2Bo-00394-00116735-00117071 and everyone here today is an active LyvGY46B2Bo-00395-00117072-00117383 contributor to that novel and that's LyvGY46B2Bo-00396-00117383-00117773 India a sporting superpower so let's LyvGY46B2Bo-00397-00117774-00117857 play LyvGY46B2Bo-00398-00117858-00118181 thank you LyvGY46B2Bo-00399-00118182-00118852 without token of appreciation LyvGY46B2Bo-00400-00118853-00119027 thank you so much for joining us here LyvGY46B2Bo-00401-00119028-00119602 today and sharing your thoughts LyvGY46B2Bo-00402-00119603-00119894 thank you so much LzChRtCkR3Q-00000-00000016-00000206 yeah because you know the the thing is LzChRtCkR3Q-00001-00000208-00000375 that we're talking a lot i would LzChRtCkR3Q-00002-00000376-00000623 i would suggest um you know you with LzChRtCkR3Q-00003-00000624-00000743 your chakra wellness you LzChRtCkR3Q-00004-00000744-00000943 you're dealing with polar players that LzChRtCkR3Q-00005-00000944-00001215 play sort of four or five days a week LzChRtCkR3Q-00006-00001216-00001454 so that that becomes a discipline in LzChRtCkR3Q-00007-00001455-00001543 itself LzChRtCkR3Q-00008-00001544-00001759 but they are the majority of polar LzChRtCkR3Q-00009-00001760-00001847 players 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who are LzChRtCkR3Q-00025-00004600-00004895 working and playing part-time yes yeah LzChRtCkR3Q-00026-00004896-00004991 and that's actually LzChRtCkR3Q-00027-00004992-00005191 why i designed this membership hub was LzChRtCkR3Q-00028-00005192-00005343 that people can just LzChRtCkR3Q-00029-00005344-00005647 log in log out um whenever they can and LzChRtCkR3Q-00030-00005648-00005686 those LzChRtCkR3Q-00031-00005687-00005951 those workouts are 20 30 minutes max so LzChRtCkR3Q-00032-00005952-00006095 i suggest just doing LzChRtCkR3Q-00033-00006096-00006334 just putting 20 30 minutes aside uh LzChRtCkR3Q-00034-00006335-00006454 three four times a week LzChRtCkR3Q-00035-00006455-00006751 if you can um and you just focus on the LzChRtCkR3Q-00036-00006752-00007063 functional stuff you do some cardio LzChRtCkR3Q-00037-00007064-00007255 and lots of stretching lots of LzChRtCkR3Q-00038-00007256-00007398 immobilizing as well because like you LzChRtCkR3Q-00039-00007400-00007559 said if you're stuck at a desk all day LzChRtCkR3Q-00040-00007559-00007678 rounded shoulders LzChRtCkR3Q-00041-00007679-00007870 not engaging your core your hamstrings LzChRtCkR3Q-00042-00007872-00007998 are tight you haven't LzChRtCkR3Q-00043-00008000-00008231 activated your glutes all week and then LzChRtCkR3Q-00044-00008232-00008383 you drive LzChRtCkR3Q-00045-00008384-00008583 get on the horse without warming up and LzChRtCkR3Q-00046-00008584-00008719 then you wake up sunday morning or LzChRtCkR3Q-00047-00008720-00008831 monday morning LzChRtCkR3Q-00048-00008832-00009055 a bit like a robot like oh my gosh then LzChRtCkR3Q-00049-00009056-00009206 you're back down sitting down so a lot LzChRtCkR3Q-00050-00009207-00009374 of it's stretching it's preparing the LzChRtCkR3Q-00051-00009375-00009510 body LzChRtCkR3Q-00052-00009511-00009710 for action on the day it's lots of LzChRtCkR3Q-00053-00009711-00009895 stretching lots of recovery work LzChRtCkR3Q-00054-00009896-00010078 and then yeah three four times a week LzChRtCkR3Q-00055-00010079-00010271 i'd focus on more functional LzChRtCkR3Q-00056-00010272-00010574 and resistance uh based workouts um but LzChRtCkR3Q-00057-00010575-00010742 yeah like i said they don't have to be LzChRtCkR3Q-00058-00010743-00011038 hours long um and they don't have to be LzChRtCkR3Q-00059-00011039-00011231 hardcore either people always associate LzChRtCkR3Q-00060-00011232-00011414 fitness and gym work was you know LzChRtCkR3Q-00061-00011415-00011591 ending the session on the floor it's LzChRtCkR3Q-00062-00011592-00011735 definitely not like that at all you know LzChRtCkR3Q-00063-00011736-00011967 on a monday i'll do more stability work LzChRtCkR3Q-00064-00011968-00012110 and muscle engaging so i'm not even LzChRtCkR3Q-00065-00012111-00012327 sweating but i'm just waking everything LzChRtCkR3Q-00066-00012328-00012519 up and making sure it's all balanced LzChRtCkR3Q-00067-00012520-00012710 then tuesday i'll do like a run and then LzChRtCkR3Q-00068-00012711-00012846 some resistance stuff LzChRtCkR3Q-00069-00012847-00013022 wednesday i may just go down do some LzChRtCkR3Q-00070-00013023-00013175 pilates and call work LzChRtCkR3Q-00071-00013176-00013375 thursday i'll do a heavy resistance so LzChRtCkR3Q-00072-00013376-00013494 you know each day is completely LzChRtCkR3Q-00073-00013495-00013551 different LzChRtCkR3Q-00074-00013552-00013758 and you know half of those ex uh LzChRtCkR3Q-00075-00013759-00013911 workouts i'll be LzChRtCkR3Q-00076-00013912-00014135 lying on the floor afterwards but i LzChRtCkR3Q-00077-00014136-00014311 don't you don't have to do that LzChRtCkR3Q-00078-00014312-00014758 to um reduce muscle soreness and LzChRtCkR3Q-00079-00014759-00015656 a mega fit for the weekend L-9n_hS8t7u-00000-00000003-00000241 all right so welcome everyone I'm so L-9n_hS8t7u-00001-00000242-00000413 excited to be here with you to do a L-9n_hS8t7u-00002-00000413-00000588 low-end tour of user experience L-9n_hS8t7u-00003-00000589-00001019 techniques um i am laura quinn i am a L-9n_hS8t7u-00004-00001019-00001425 independent consultant specializing in L-9n_hS8t7u-00005-00001426-00001798 research so both user experience type L-9n_hS8t7u-00006-00001800-00002045 research and evaluation pipe research L-9n_hS8t7u-00007-00002046-00002450 for access to justice technologies many L-9n_hS8t7u-00008-00002451-00002690 of you may know me from my prior life as L-9n_hS8t7u-00009-00002691-00003014 executive director of idealware in which L-9n_hS8t7u-00010-00003015-00003269 i also work with a lot of legal aid L-9n_hS8t7u-00011-00003270-00003578 organizations and other access to L-9n_hS8t7u-00012-00003579-00003704 justice organization so i've been L-9n_hS8t7u-00013-00003704-00003922 excited to bring kind of a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-00014-00003923-00004172 different pathways in my life together L-9n_hS8t7u-00015-00004173-00004460 to specialize specifically in activist L-9n_hS8t7u-00016-00004461-00004841 and with me today I have two folks who L-9n_hS8t7u-00017-00004842-00005054 are going to vote the they're going to L-9n_hS8t7u-00018-00005055-00005225 be presenting piece studies as we get L-9n_hS8t7u-00019-00005226-00005426 towards the end and they're also going L-9n_hS8t7u-00020-00005427-00005720 to be doing we're calling color L-9n_hS8t7u-00021-00005721-00005918 commentary on so they're going to be L-9n_hS8t7u-00022-00005919-00006347 joining in to provide a little bit of L-9n_hS8t7u-00023-00006348-00006503 additional insight on it so it's not L-9n_hS8t7u-00024-00006504-00006871 just wall with me talking to you so we L-9n_hS8t7u-00025-00006872-00007156 have with us Rachel Harris Rachel you L-9n_hS8t7u-00026-00007158-00007448 want to introduce yourself yes thanks L-9n_hS8t7u-00027-00007448-00007637 Laura my name is Rachel Harris L-9n_hS8t7u-00028-00007638-00007931 um I work at the Ohio legal assistance L-9n_hS8t7u-00029-00007931-00008207 foundation we are the state funder for a L-9n_hS8t7u-00030-00008208-00008552 highly glazed I am the project L-9n_hS8t7u-00031-00008553-00008789 coordinator for our Ohio legal help L-9n_hS8t7u-00032-00008790-00009038 project which is our statewide portal L-9n_hS8t7u-00033-00009039-00009323 project and we have been working with L-9n_hS8t7u-00034-00009324-00009560 Laura especially about past six months L-9n_hS8t7u-00035-00009561-00009721 doing a lot of user testing and L-9n_hS8t7u-00036-00009722-00009992 anticipation of the development of that L-9n_hS8t7u-00037-00009993-00010189 project and I'm really excited to share L-9n_hS8t7u-00038-00010190-00010391 some of what I've learned with you all L-9n_hS8t7u-00039-00010392-00010769 today fantastic and we have also with us L-9n_hS8t7u-00040-00010770-00011017 Dan Jackson from the new Retina you all L-9n_hS8t7u-00041-00011018-00011384 out there hi there everybody dan Jackson L-9n_hS8t7u-00042-00011385-00011528 I'm the executive director of the new L-9n_hS8t7u-00043-00011529-00011678 law lab we are an interdisciplinary L-9n_hS8t7u-00044-00011679-00011867 innovation laboratory at Northeastern L-9n_hS8t7u-00045-00011868-00012056 University School of Law we've been L-9n_hS8t7u-00046-00012057-00012199 around for about five years one of the L-9n_hS8t7u-00047-00012200-00012401 things we've been doing or in those five L-9n_hS8t7u-00048-00012402-00012551 years is working with some legal aid L-9n_hS8t7u-00049-00012552-00012737 organizations among this community on L-9n_hS8t7u-00050-00012738-00012935 some of the tech tools for self L-9n_hS8t7u-00051-00012936-00013151 represented litigants I think folks L-9n_hS8t7u-00052-00013152-00013258 might be familiar with our game L-9n_hS8t7u-00053-00013259-00013379 represent two game L-9n_hS8t7u-00054-00013380-00013535 now represent represent Red Room that L-9n_hS8t7u-00055-00013536-00013721 was with Connecticut statewide legal L-9n_hS8t7u-00056-00013722-00013891 services of Connecticut we also L-9n_hS8t7u-00057-00013893-00014069 collaborate with pine trees pine tree L-9n_hS8t7u-00058-00014069-00014237 legal assistance of Maine on their state L-9n_hS8t7u-00059-00014238-00014453 side legal initiative thrilled to be L-9n_hS8t7u-00060-00014454-00014816 here laughing great all right so what L-9n_hS8t7u-00061-00014816-00015185 are we planning to cover today so we'll L-9n_hS8t7u-00062-00015186-00015359 start with just a quick introduction to L-9n_hS8t7u-00063-00015360-00015616 what user experience is a kind of a L-9n_hS8t7u-00064-00015618-00015913 jargony term but I like it because it L-9n_hS8t7u-00065-00015915-00016163 kind of captures an important essence of L-9n_hS8t7u-00066-00016163-00016469 what we're thinking about today and then L-9n_hS8t7u-00067-00016470-00016655 we'll be thinking about it in kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00068-00016656-00017050 three categories defining your audience L-9n_hS8t7u-00069-00017051-00017246 understanding how they view the world L-9n_hS8t7u-00070-00017247-00017549 and then getting their reactions so L-9n_hS8t7u-00071-00017550-00017753 thinking in these blends a little bit L-9n_hS8t7u-00072-00017754-00017966 you know they're not pristinely distinct L-9n_hS8t7u-00073-00017967-00018181 categories but we'll be thinking about L-9n_hS8t7u-00074-00018182-00018578 how what techniques we can use to do L-9n_hS8t7u-00075-00018579-00018854 those three things and then also outputs L-9n_hS8t7u-00076-00018855-00019130 so that we can share that those findings L-9n_hS8t7u-00077-00019131-00019373 with others and we'll be winding up with L-9n_hS8t7u-00078-00019374-00019634 a two piece studies as we talked about L-9n_hS8t7u-00079-00019635-00019856 to kind of show how these actually come L-9n_hS8t7u-00080-00019857-00020015 out into the world which is often a L-9n_hS8t7u-00081-00020016-00020207 combination of things L-9n_hS8t7u-00082-00020208-00020506 and throughout we'll be focusing on L-9n_hS8t7u-00083-00020507-00020933 fairly affordable ways to do things so 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to L-9n_hS8t7u-00125-00034530-00034679 know kind of what your interesting L-9n_hS8t7u-00126-00034680-00034933 covering so perfect let's dive in here L-9n_hS8t7u-00127-00034934-00035362 so what is user experience so I'm using L-9n_hS8t7u-00128-00035363-00035561 the term user experience which by the L-9n_hS8t7u-00129-00035562-00035867 way is often abbreviated UX so if you L-9n_hS8t7u-00130-00035868-00036001 see you after that's what it refers to L-9n_hS8t7u-00131-00036002-00036395 and the sum total of your audience's L-9n_hS8t7u-00132-00036396-00036626 interaction and because we're talking L-9n_hS8t7u-00133-00036627-00036836 about technology specifically it would L-9n_hS8t7u-00134-00036837-00037004 be the sum total of your of the L-9n_hS8t7u-00135-00037005-00037237 interaction with your technology but for L-9n_hS8t7u-00136-00037238-00037414 some like if you're thinking about it L-9n_hS8t7u-00137-00037415-00037685 for your organization you could think L-9n_hS8t7u-00138-00037686-00037943 about the user experience with your L-9n_hS8t7u-00139-00037944-00038215 organization and that would be all of L-9n_hS8t7u-00140-00038216-00038420 the different ways that they can connect L-9n_hS8t7u-00141-00038421-00038701 with you you know how the conversations L-9n_hS8t7u-00142-00038702-00038911 that they have with your lawyers and how L-9n_hS8t7u-00143-00038912-00039418 they feel about those so and for for L-9n_hS8t7u-00144-00039419-00039674 each to be a great user experience I L-9n_hS8t7u-00145-00039675-00039901 really like this definition it should L-9n_hS8t7u-00146-00039902-00040214 meet the exact needs of the customer L-9n_hS8t7u-00147-00040215-00040418 without fuss or bother L-9n_hS8t7u-00148-00040419-00040645 and that sounds in a really simple L-9n_hS8t7u-00149-00040646-00040783 definition until you really start to L-9n_hS8t7u-00150-00040784-00040973 think about it so it in pawn L-9n_hS8t7u-00151-00040974-00041194 we need to know who the customer is L-9n_hS8t7u-00152-00041195-00041438 number one and customer I think we can L-9n_hS8t7u-00153-00041439-00041702 also we can say you know constituent L-9n_hS8t7u-00154-00041703-00041951 consumer you know whatever word we want L-9n_hS8t7u-00155-00041952-00042251 to use there for a someone who'd be L-9n_hS8t7u-00156-00042252-00042611 accessing access to justice stuff so we L-9n_hS8t7u-00157-00042612-00042755 need to know who they are the audience L-9n_hS8t7u-00158-00042756-00043061 is we need to know their exact needs and L-9n_hS8t7u-00159-00043062-00043301 that is certainly I mean I honestly will L-9n_hS8t7u-00160-00043302-00043514 never know their exact needs but we can L-9n_hS8t7u-00161-00043515-00043769 get as close as possible and we need to L-9n_hS8t7u-00162-00043770-00044090 be able to figure out what is going to L-9n_hS8t7u-00163-00044091-00044309 meet them with by their definition L-9n_hS8t7u-00164-00044310-00044582 without us a bother L-9n_hS8t7u-00165-00044583-00044749 so it's actually a fairly powerful L-9n_hS8t7u-00166-00044750-00045017 definition I think of what it is that L-9n_hS8t7u-00167-00045018-00045338 we're trying to do and the main L-9n_hS8t7u-00168-00045339-00045599 technique or one of the main techniques L-9n_hS8t7u-00169-00045600-00045947 you have to get there is to learning L-9n_hS8t7u-00170-00045948-00046181 from those in the audience so basically L-9n_hS8t7u-00171-00046182-00046556 we think about ourselves as apprentices L-9n_hS8t7u-00172-00046557-00046940 to actual individuals in our audience L-9n_hS8t7u-00173-00046941-00047240 who know far better than we do what it L-9n_hS8t7u-00174-00047241-00047438 is that they need what it is that they L-9n_hS8t7u-00175-00047439-00047732 do that's not to say as we'll talk a L-9n_hS8t7u-00176-00047733-00047978 considerable amount about that's not to L-9n_hS8t7u-00177-00047979-00048215 say that if we ask them what do you need L-9n_hS8t7u-00178-00048216-00048428 they will be able to articulate that L-9n_hS8t7u-00179-00048429-00048749 well but they certainly the information L-9n_hS8t7u-00180-00048750-00049013 about what they do and what they would L-9n_hS8t7u-00181-00049014-00049367 use is much more in it's more in their L-9n_hS8t7u-00182-00049368-00049670 head than it is in yours yeah there's L-9n_hS8t7u-00183-00049671-00049976 another good one here which is do you L-9n_hS8t7u-00184-00049977-00050168 ask users if they have success in their L-9n_hS8t7u-00185-00050169-00050429 court using law health resources how do L-9n_hS8t7u-00186-00050430-00050789 you you measure success for users kind L-9n_hS8t7u-00187-00050790-00050912 of the difference between user L-9n_hS8t7u-00188-00050913-00051342 experience and judging outcomes L-9n_hS8t7u-00189-00051344-00051671 interacting with those two yeah I will L-9n_hS8t7u-00190-00051672-00051920 in fact that's a great question that I L-9n_hS8t7u-00191-00051921-00052178 want I didn't actually have anything to L-9n_hS8t7u-00192-00052179-00052382 cover but I'll put that in is we talked L-9n_hS8t7u-00193-00052383-00052679 about getting people's reactions kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00194-00052679-00052909 the idea of reactions and success L-9n_hS8t7u-00195-00052910-00053036 absolutely L-9n_hS8t7u-00196-00053037-00053261 all right so we're going to think it L-9n_hS8t7u-00197-00053262-00053408 there in three parts as we talked about L-9n_hS8t7u-00198-00053409-00053680 so thinking about who is in your L-9n_hS8t7u-00199-00053682-00053951 audience so what are their L-9n_hS8t7u-00200-00053952-00054149 characteristics so kind of some basic L-9n_hS8t7u-00201-00054150-00054279 definitions L-9n_hS8t7u-00202-00054279-00054603 mission of your audience will then go L-9n_hS8t7u-00203-00054604-00054825 it's as ways that we'll think about ways L-9n_hS8t7u-00204-00054826-00055134 to guide how does the audience we do L-9n_hS8t7u-00205-00055135-00055353 what you are trying to support they do L-9n_hS8t7u-00206-00055354-00055748 it somehow even if it's you know by L-9n_hS8t7u-00207-00055749-00056061 talking to their barber or you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00208-00056062-00056304 filling it out in paper or you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00209-00056304-00056604 there there is some method by which they L-9n_hS8t7u-00210-00056604-00056835 are at least attempting to accomplish L-9n_hS8t7u-00211-00056836-00057038 what you are doing and and how they L-9n_hS8t7u-00212-00057039-00057200 think about it which can often be very L-9n_hS8t7u-00213-00057201-00057519 different about how we as you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00214-00057520-00057810 experience technologists or lawyers or L-9n_hS8t7u-00215-00057811-00058074 both are thinking about it and then L-9n_hS8t7u-00216-00058075-00058347 getting their reaction so basically so L-9n_hS8t7u-00217-00058348-00058515 we're understanding how they view the L-9n_hS8t7u-00218-00058516-00058700 world before we necessarily have L-9n_hS8t7u-00219-00058701-00058856 anything to put in front of them for L-9n_hS8t7u-00220-00058857-00059085 them to react to but then it's also very L-9n_hS8t7u-00221-00059086-00059675 useful to put things so our own design L-9n_hS8t7u-00222-00059676-00059991 for a technology system somebody else's L-9n_hS8t7u-00223-00059991-00060191 designed for technology system and L-9n_hS8t7u-00224-00060192-00060429 actual working system whatever in front L-9n_hS8t7u-00225-00060429-00060669 of them to get their thoughts so we'll L-9n_hS8t7u-00226-00060670-00060912 talk through that all right so let's L-9n_hS8t7u-00227-00060913-00061191 start with defining your audience with L-9n_hS8t7u-00228-00061191-00061374 the idea that there are many many L-9n_hS8t7u-00229-00061375-00061629 audiences that you could define so the L-9n_hS8t7u-00230-00061629-00061812 idea of the dartboard here is not that L-9n_hS8t7u-00231-00061813-00061988 we're just throwing darts to find your L-9n_hS8t7u-00232-00061989-00062244 audience but that each of these you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00233-00062245-00062412 we've got all of these the different L-9n_hS8t7u-00234-00062413-00062646 segments and there's overlap and there's L-9n_hS8t7u-00235-00062647-00062925 this is often a really complicated thing L-9n_hS8t7u-00236-00062926-00063254 to think about as to who your audience L-9n_hS8t7u-00237-00063255-00063347 is L-9n_hS8t7u-00238-00063348-00063804 so in this realm we're thinking L-9n_hS8t7u-00239-00063804-00064088 specifically about who the target L-9n_hS8t7u-00240-00064089-00064422 audience is how many people are in that L-9n_hS8t7u-00241-00064423-00064704 so we know whether we're designing for a L-9n_hS8t7u-00242-00064704-00064971 very limited audience a big audience and L-9n_hS8t7u-00243-00064972-00065079 kind of what the difference between L-9n_hS8t7u-00244-00065079-00065334 those are things like their literacy L-9n_hS8t7u-00245-00065335-00065646 level their tech proficiency general L-9n_hS8t7u-00246-00065647-00065859 trends of their needs so we're gonna in L-9n_hS8t7u-00247-00065860-00066125 the next section talk more about kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00248-00066126-00066494 they're much more about their how we L-9n_hS8t7u-00249-00066495-00066765 would understand their needs we're gonna L-9n_hS8t7u-00250-00066766-00066909 go through each of these in more detail L-9n_hS8t7u-00251-00066910-00067071 we're gonna talk about quick L-9n_hS8t7u-00252-00067072-00067224 conversations with subject matter L-9n_hS8t7u-00253-00067225-00067536 experts sorry for my abbreviation near L-9n_hS8t7u-00254-00067537-00067631 FM ease L-9n_hS8t7u-00255-00067632-00067880 talk about review of existing research L-9n_hS8t7u-00256-00067881-00068138 surveys of target audience creation of L-9n_hS8t7u-00257-00068139-00068403 personas I'm so basically a bunch of L-9n_hS8t7u-00258-00068404-00068697 different ways that you could understand L-9n_hS8t7u-00259-00068698-00069263 who is out there so you want to start L-9n_hS8t7u-00260-00069264-00069710 simply with the thought process which L-9n_hS8t7u-00261-00069711-00070019 can really be instructive and and L-9n_hS8t7u-00262-00070020-00070223 provide a lot of guidance for you simply L-9n_hS8t7u-00263-00070224-00070535 by saying okay who specifically is our L-9n_hS8t7u-00264-00070536-00070754 audience what is the defining L-9n_hS8t7u-00265-00070755-00071111 characteristics that define them as your L-9n_hS8t7u-00266-00071112-00071478 audience and who isn't in that and if we L-9n_hS8t7u-00267-00071479-00071612 have a number of audio because it was L-9n_hS8t7u-00268-00071613-00071831 often often true how can we prioritize L-9n_hS8t7u-00269-00071832-00072091 them so basically starting to say L-9n_hS8t7u-00270-00072092-00072459 alright everyone is not a target L-9n_hS8t7u-00271-00072460-00072776 audience also low-income people in Ohio L-9n_hS8t7u-00272-00072777-00073193 is not really a feasible to work with L-9n_hS8t7u-00273-00073194-00073424 target audience we need more specific L-9n_hS8t7u-00274-00073425-00073722 parameters than that in order to really L-9n_hS8t7u-00275-00073723-00073941 be able to start to think about who L-9n_hS8t7u-00276-00073942-00074312 we're working with then I'm going to put L-9n_hS8t7u-00277-00074313-00074594 you a little bit on the spot do you have L-9n_hS8t7u-00278-00074595-00074906 as you thinking on you know kind of all L-9n_hS8t7u-00279-00074907-00075062 of the different projects you've been L-9n_hS8t7u-00280-00075063-00075518 doing have you any do with any specific L-9n_hS8t7u-00281-00075519-00075692 techniques that you've used so just L-9n_hS8t7u-00282-00075693-00075941 start to think about how to crystallize L-9n_hS8t7u-00283-00075942-00076178 out what audience you're even going to L-9n_hS8t7u-00284-00076179-00076694 you know talk to test with oh well yeah L-9n_hS8t7u-00285-00076695-00076919 it's very much depends on the project or L-9n_hS8t7u-00286-00076920-00077090 the problem that we're trying to solve I L-9n_hS8t7u-00287-00077091-00077403 mean where our work really is focused on L-9n_hS8t7u-00288-00077404-00077585 working directly with intended end users L-9n_hS8t7u-00289-00077586-00077807 so it's co.design and other ways of L-9n_hS8t7u-00290-00077808-00077992 working directly with so you know folks L-9n_hS8t7u-00291-00077993-00078362 for whom we're designing and so that in L-9n_hS8t7u-00292-00078363-00078536 that instance of course the users L-9n_hS8t7u-00293-00078537-00078828 already artery already defined and so L-9n_hS8t7u-00294-00078829-00078980 it's very much based on the problem that L-9n_hS8t7u-00295-00078981-00079190 we're trying to solve for you know when L-9n_hS8t7u-00296-00079191-00079440 I worked as a statewide legal services L-9n_hS8t7u-00297-00079441-00079655 of Connecticut we had self represented L-9n_hS8t7u-00298-00079656-00080010 litigants obviously was the chief target L-9n_hS8t7u-00299-00080011-00080213 audience and so we work directly with L-9n_hS8t7u-00300-00080214-00080426 those folks in designing the game itself L-9n_hS8t7u-00301-00080427-00080585 but there's of course not lots of L-9n_hS8t7u-00302-00080586-00080825 different you know subsets of and L-9n_hS8t7u-00303-00080826-00081038 within those categories but we let that L-9n_hS8t7u-00304-00081039-00081224 process we love both folks to sort of L-9n_hS8t7u-00305-00081225-00081458 define that themselves we tend to err on L-9n_hS8t7u-00306-00081459-00081854 the side of giving our users the tools L-9n_hS8t7u-00307-00081855-00082189 to direct the process yeah absolutely L-9n_hS8t7u-00308-00082190-00082622 yeah so basically a starting to think L-9n_hS8t7u-00309-00082623-00082799 about this as simply a more complicated L-9n_hS8t7u-00310-00082800-00083078 than it might seem like Toto to assume L-9n_hS8t7u-00311-00083079-00083360 that you may have some questions about L-9n_hS8t7u-00312-00083361-00083609 as well as answers about who your L-9n_hS8t7u-00313-00083610-00083828 audiences are they can want to explore L-9n_hS8t7u-00314-00083829-00084419 your further research speaking of L-9n_hS8t7u-00315-00084420-00084818 research I'm thinking about academic L-9n_hS8t7u-00316-00084819-00085202 research um we are lucky in the legal L-9n_hS8t7u-00317-00085203-00085409 aid world in the access to justice world L-9n_hS8t7u-00318-00085410-00085673 and that there is in fact often academic L-9n_hS8t7u-00319-00085674-00086045 research that overlaps with topic areas L-9n_hS8t7u-00320-00086046-00086309 that were interested in or the target L-9n_hS8t7u-00321-00086310-00086648 demographics that were interested in so L-9n_hS8t7u-00322-00086649-00086999 if we are for instance you know I just L-9n_hS8t7u-00323-00087000-00087152 died I heard certain mention that L-9n_hS8t7u-00324-00087153-00087299 there's someone on the call who works L-9n_hS8t7u-00325-00087300-00087611 with First Nations tribes understanding L-9n_hS8t7u-00326-00087612-00088031 how you know First Nations folks think L-9n_hS8t7u-00327-00088032-00088340 about access to justice or they think L-9n_hS8t7u-00328-00088341-00088784 about what it means to get a fair day in L-9n_hS8t7u-00329-00088785-00089042 court you know I have no idea whether L-9n_hS8t7u-00330-00089043-00089222 those studies have been done but it L-9n_hS8t7u-00331-00089223-00089417 wouldn't surprise me and that would be L-9n_hS8t7u-00332-00089418-00089852 really informative in that type of work L-9n_hS8t7u-00333-00089853-00090239 we're doing technology work to target an L-9n_hS8t7u-00334-00090240-00090527 audience like that so thinking through L-9n_hS8t7u-00335-00090528-00090830 demographics characteristics including L-9n_hS8t7u-00336-00090831-00091016 like as you just try to get your hands L-9n_hS8t7u-00337-00091017-00091205 around and understanding what other L-9n_hS8t7u-00338-00091206-00091391 people thought was important to L-9n_hS8t7u-00339-00091392-00091691 understand it can be really useful and L-9n_hS8t7u-00340-00091692-00091952 some key themes so I just pulled a 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about disasters for sudden a different L-9n_hS8t7u-00355-00096525-00096682 project I was doing I'm like well I got L-9n_hS8t7u-00356-00096683-00096932 their stuff for you know about you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00357-00096933-00097112 how we help people who are in those L-9n_hS8t7u-00358-00097113-00097229 disasters L-9n_hS8t7u-00359-00097230-00097499 did a google search and you know two L-9n_hS8t7u-00360-00097500-00097697 minutes later I have this report that L-9n_hS8t7u-00361-00097698-00097888 would be a really interesting piece of L-9n_hS8t7u-00362-00097889-00098309 this so basically the the idea being L-9n_hS8t7u-00363-00098310-00098597 that these are resources that really are L-9n_hS8t7u-00364-00098598-00098807 often much more useful than it feels L-9n_hS8t7u-00365-00098808-00099110 like I kind of feel like they're people L-9n_hS8t7u-00366-00099111-00099301 assume they're not going to be valuable L-9n_hS8t7u-00367-00099302-00099601 when in fact I find that certainly at L-9n_hS8t7u-00368-00099602-00099767 least is background reading if nothing L-9n_hS8t7u-00369-00099768-00100051 else they are more likely to be useful L-9n_hS8t7u-00370-00100052-00100475 than not and we'll talk about some ways L-9n_hS8t7u-00371-00100476-00101204 to use that second analytics data so L-9n_hS8t7u-00372-00101205-00101468 this is something that most technology L-9n_hS8t7u-00373-00101469-00101676 people on the phone Nepal are probably L-9n_hS8t7u-00374-00101677-00101885 familiar with them especially a L-9n_hS8t7u-00375-00101886-00102131 different perspective so thinking L-9n_hS8t7u-00376-00102132-00102532 through what things like your Google L-9n_hS8t7u-00377-00102533-00102764 Analytics on your or somebody else's L-9n_hS8t7u-00378-00102765-00103151 website can tell you social media sites L-9n_hS8t7u-00379-00103152-00103333 also can tell you things like age and L-9n_hS8t7u-00380-00103334-00103705 gender can tell you what topic areas are L-9n_hS8t7u-00381-00103706-00104008 of interest to people and tell you how L-9n_hS8t7u-00382-00104009-00104380 they tend to navigate through websites I L-9n_hS8t7u-00383-00104381-00104888 think like that and with our us being a L-9n_hS8t7u-00384-00104889-00105095 very close-knit community and the access L-9n_hS8t7u-00385-00105096-00105377 justice the justice community keeping in L-9n_hS8t7u-00386-00105378-00105626 mind that often people are willing to L-9n_hS8t7u-00387-00105627-00105968 share so if you have somebody else who L-9n_hS8t7u-00388-00105969-00106304 has a website that seems like it might L-9n_hS8t7u-00389-00106305-00106570 be targeted at a similar demographic L-9n_hS8t7u-00390-00106571-00106877 similar audience to say you know well L-9n_hS8t7u-00391-00106878-00107069 maybe there would be worth would be L-9n_hS8t7u-00392-00107070-00107219 willing to tell us some of this L-9n_hS8t7u-00393-00107220-00107345 information about L-9n_hS8t7u-00394-00107346-00107615 website to the extent that it's useful L-9n_hS8t7u-00395-00107616-00108235 for us so if we're gonna talk a lot in L-9n_hS8t7u-00396-00108236-00108578 the next section about interviews with L-9n_hS8t7u-00397-00108579-00108811 target audience members focus groups L-9n_hS8t7u-00398-00108813-00109172 things like that which would be L-9n_hS8t7u-00399-00109173-00109444 certainly my preferred method but if L-9n_hS8t7u-00400-00109445-00109826 budgets does not allow for that just L-9n_hS8t7u-00401-00109827-00110165 simply talking to people who are out in L-9n_hS8t7u-00402-00110166-00110480 the field so line staff work directly L-9n_hS8t7u-00403-00110481-00110761 with your target audience can be really L-9n_hS8t7u-00404-00110763-00111077 helpful so it's so both in a legal age L-9n_hS8t7u-00405-00111078-00111283 contact so this would might be like L-9n_hS8t7u-00406-00111284-00111464 talking to your lawyers who are actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00407-00111465-00111674 working with you interacting with your L-9n_hS8t7u-00408-00111675-00112001 constituents but then also saying re L-9n_hS8t7u-00409-00112002-00112289 we're interested in you know thinking L-9n_hS8t7u-00410-00112290-00112565 about issues of housing well let's go L-9n_hS8t7u-00411-00112566-00112846 talk to some people working in a L-9n_hS8t7u-00412-00112847-00113108 homeless shelter about what are the L-9n_hS8t7u-00413-00113108-00113327 typical issues they're seeing that have L-9n_hS8t7u-00414-00113328-00113608 gotten people there initially or L-9n_hS8t7u-00415-00113609-00113777 preventing them from getting back and L-9n_hS8t7u-00416-00113778-00114014 housing or you know that type of thing L-9n_hS8t7u-00417-00114015-00114266 so to understand it I think through if L-9n_hS8t7u-00418-00114267-00114610 we can't we don't have the money to go L-9n_hS8t7u-00419-00114611-00115064 talk to you know a bunch of people of L-9n_hS8t7u-00420-00115065-00115364 direct sorry a bunch of people who are L-9n_hS8t7u-00421-00115365-00115673 actually in our audience we can at least L-9n_hS8t7u-00422-00115674-00115943 go talk to people who have directly L-9n_hS8t7u-00423-00115944-00116141 interacted with a bunch of people who L-9n_hS8t7u-00424-00116142-00116480 are in Iran to try to get viewpoints L-9n_hS8t7u-00425-00116481-00116819 there and you want to do at least three L-9n_hS8t7u-00426-00116820-00117158 to four people so in general as you're L-9n_hS8t7u-00427-00117158-00117704 thinking about interviews so one is not L-9n_hS8t7u-00428-00117705-00117941 enough because you could have just L-9n_hS8t7u-00429-00117942-00118205 really weirdly you know skewed L-9n_hS8t7u-00430-00118206-00118430 perspective to you have the potential L-9n_hS8t7u-00431-00118431-00118598 that people really disagree with each L-9n_hS8t7u-00432-00118599-00118730 other and then you don't really know L-9n_hS8t7u-00433-00118731-00118816 where to take it L-9n_hS8t7u-00434-00118817-00119096 three starts to be you could start to L-9n_hS8t7u-00435-00119097-00119458 build up some themes or is you know then L-9n_hS8t7u-00436-00119459-00119693 you can begin to feel what's okay L-9n_hS8t7u-00437-00119694-00119933 everybody all four people said this this L-9n_hS8t7u-00438-00119933-00120272 is really important this is well they L-9n_hS8t7u-00439-00120273-00120422 one person said this and it seems pretty L-9n_hS8t7u-00440-00120423-00120644 far afield that we don't need to care as L-9n_hS8t7u-00441-00120645-00120934 much L-9n_hS8t7u-00442-00120935-00121215 those conversations with subject matter L-9n_hS8t7u-00443-00121216-00121610 experts Dan or Rachel I feel like sorry L-9n_hS8t7u-00444-00121611-00121760 I feel like I'm talking a lot so I'm L-9n_hS8t7u-00445-00121761-00121992 hoping that one of you anything to kind L-9n_hS8t7u-00446-00121993-00122447 of add on the idea of the the L-9n_hS8t7u-00447-00122448-00122820 possibility of talking to or including L-9n_hS8t7u-00448-00122821-00123134 kind of a subject matter experts either L-9n_hS8t7u-00449-00123135-00123405 in addition to or opposed to like that L-9n_hS8t7u-00450-00123406-00123675 sorry alright oh yeah so this is Rachel L-9n_hS8t7u-00451-00123676-00124278 um yeah so I think another element of L-9n_hS8t7u-00452-00124279-00124506 this that was very helpful for us in our L-9n_hS8t7u-00453-00124507-00124740 user testing was we started out our L-9n_hS8t7u-00454-00124741-00125009 project with some quick conversations L-9n_hS8t7u-00455-00125010-00125229 with subject matter experts on both in L-9n_hS8t7u-00456-00125230-00125483 our legal aid organizations but also in L-9n_hS8t7u-00457-00125483-00125727 other community organizations on L-9n_hS8t7u-00458-00125728-00125898 Community Development Corporation's and L-9n_hS8t7u-00459-00125899-00126083 Community Action agencies which L-9n_hS8t7u-00460-00126084-00126441 administer certain public benefits in L-9n_hS8t7u-00461-00126442-00126866 Ohio and that actually ended up being a L-9n_hS8t7u-00462-00126867-00127158 great connection to have established L-9n_hS8t7u-00463-00127158-00127383 later on when we were looking at our L-9n_hS8t7u-00464-00127383-00127695 user testing and looking at locations to L-9n_hS8t7u-00465-00127696-00128016 do our initial testing and I looking L-9n_hS8t7u-00466-00128017-00128273 back on it now we realized that that L-9n_hS8t7u-00467-00128274-00128651 really gave us a great opportunity to L-9n_hS8t7u-00468-00128652-00128976 kind of start looping others in on our L-9n_hS8t7u-00469-00128977-00129273 project so it kind of had double value L-9n_hS8t7u-00470-00129274-00129531 um it was it was very great yes L-9n_hS8t7u-00471-00129532-00129798 the only thing I would add to that is be L-9n_hS8t7u-00472-00129799-00129933 respectful of your subject matter L-9n_hS8t7u-00473-00129933-00130299 experts time and therefore I'd you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00474-00130300-00130581 schedule that opportunity to speak with L-9n_hS8t7u-00475-00130582-00130797 them at the right point in your project L-9n_hS8t7u-00476-00130798-00130985 so that the ideas are starting to come L-9n_hS8t7u-00477-00130986-00131136 together in such a way that you're L-9n_hS8t7u-00478-00131137-00131250 actually going to be able to have a real L-9n_hS8t7u-00479-00131251-00131472 focused conversation it's not always L-9n_hS8t7u-00480-00131473-00131772 helpful to have real meandering and L-9n_hS8t7u-00481-00131773-00132096 vague conversations early on and the in L-9n_hS8t7u-00482-00132097-00132216 the process with a subject matter expert L-9n_hS8t7u-00483-00132217-00132405 because they may not have anything to L-9n_hS8t7u-00484-00132406-00132591 add value there hmm that's interesting L-9n_hS8t7u-00485-00132592-00132825 yeah so I would say certainly have a L-9n_hS8t7u-00486-00132826-00133038 focused conversation no questions I'll L-9n_hS8t7u-00487-00133039-00133212 have a focused list of questions and L-9n_hS8t7u-00488-00133213-00133365 we'll talk more about this as we get to L-9n_hS8t7u-00489-00133366-00133644 interviews I would say that it doesn't L-9n_hS8t7u-00490-00133645-00133895 necessarily need to be later in L-9n_hS8t7u-00491-00133896-00134087 project process from my perspective L-9n_hS8t7u-00492-00134088-00134504 because we might ask them really focused L-9n_hS8t7u-00493-00134505-00135025 questions like for instance what are the L-9n_hS8t7u-00494-00135026-00135224 I'm just trying to think of an actual L-9n_hS8t7u-00495-00135225-00135700 example of a technology we're building a L-9n_hS8t7u-00496-00135701-00136175 volunteer portal for lawyers and so we L-9n_hS8t7u-00497-00136176-00136529 go talk to because obvious lines that L-9n_hS8t7u-00498-00136530-00136673 would be the people who are working with L-9n_hS8t7u-00499-00136674-00136985 the lawyers so what are the what are the L-9n_hS8t7u-00500-00136986-00137306 most typical obstacles you see to people L-9n_hS8t7u-00501-00137307-00137507 actually from so someone has expressed L-9n_hS8t7u-00502-00137508-00137699 interest what are the most typical L-9n_hS8t7u-00503-00137700-00137900 obstacles that keep them from actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00504-00137901-00138137 doing something you know that's a very L-9n_hS8t7u-00505-00138138-00138314 focused question but it's very early on L-9n_hS8t7u-00506-00138315-00138554 before you've actually defined precisely L-9n_hS8t7u-00507-00138555-00139342 what the project is so absolutely great L-9n_hS8t7u-00508-00139343-00139688 surveys surveys are really interesting I L-9n_hS8t7u-00509-00139689-00140072 feel like people often go to start a new L-9n_hS8t7u-00510-00140073-00140360 surveys or people's go to for getting L-9n_hS8t7u-00511-00140361-00140770 information on what people want or need L-9n_hS8t7u-00512-00140771-00141062 and I feel like they're they're L-9n_hS8t7u-00513-00141063-00141284 definitely a useful way to get answers L-9n_hS8t7u-00514-00141285-00141590 to a few questions from a lot of people L-9n_hS8t7u-00515-00141591-00141884 they will get you shallow information L-9n_hS8t7u-00516-00141885-00142220 but very broad information however L-9n_hS8t7u-00517-00142221-00142444 they're harder than you might think L-9n_hS8t7u-00518-00142445-00142846 especially to get reliable information L-9n_hS8t7u-00519-00142847-00143222 so unless your group is very discreet so L-9n_hS8t7u-00520-00143223-00143489 unless you can fairly easily define L-9n_hS8t7u-00521-00143490-00143774 everybody is within it and have some L-9n_hS8t7u-00522-00143775-00143990 reason to expect that you can get a fair L-9n_hS8t7u-00523-00143991-00144155 number of them to answer your survey L-9n_hS8t7u-00524-00144156-00144458 it's hard to get a sample that actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00525-00144459-00144689 it's hard to get the right people to L-9n_hS8t7u-00526-00144690-00144833 answer the survey or not the right L-9n_hS8t7u-00527-00144834-00145223 people but a selection of people to L-9n_hS8t7u-00528-00145224-00145409 answer the survey that actually you can L-9n_hS8t7u-00529-00145410-00145724 have some confidence if not skewed in L-9n_hS8t7u-00530-00145725-00145898 some weird way L-9n_hS8t7u-00531-00145899-00146171 so basically unless you can define why L-9n_hS8t7u-00532-00146172-00146435 it's not skewed in some weird way you L-9n_hS8t7u-00533-00146436-00146744 need to assume it probably is diffic so L-9n_hS8t7u-00534-00146745-00146939 you can say that all right well this is L-9n_hS8t7u-00535-00146940-00147287 interesting information that is L-9n_hS8t7u-00536-00147288-00147597 can guide us but unless you've actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00537-00147598-00147912 talked to someone hired somebody about L-9n_hS8t7u-00538-00147913-00148125 getting a representative sample which L-9n_hS8t7u-00539-00148126-00148370 that typically takes time and money L-9n_hS8t7u-00540-00148371-00148652 you're going to have to assume that it's L-9n_hS8t7u-00541-00148653-00148944 you know that it's going to be for L-9n_hS8t7u-00542-00148945-00149216 guidance only and they need to be L-9n_hS8t7u-00543-00149217-00149441 written carefully as well so the L-9n_hS8t7u-00544-00149442-00149675 questions needs to be carefully done in L-9n_hS8t7u-00545-00149676-00149994 order to my sway the audience so so in L-9n_hS8t7u-00546-00149995-00150329 fact the further I go in my career the L-9n_hS8t7u-00547-00150330-00150650 less I tend to like surveys as a quick L-9n_hS8t7u-00548-00150651-00151001 and easy research technique particularly L-9n_hS8t7u-00549-00151002-00151232 I think because they seem quick and easy L-9n_hS8t7u-00550-00151233-00151538 but they don't give you data that is L-9n_hS8t7u-00551-00151539-00151770 really easily actionable so personally I L-9n_hS8t7u-00552-00151771-00152000 would almost always go talk to five L-9n_hS8t7u-00553-00152001-00152409 people then survey you know a L-9n_hS8t7u-00554-00152410-00152646 broad-based group of people and just L-9n_hS8t7u-00555-00152647-00152966 kind of see what happens because mostly L-9n_hS8t7u-00556-00152967-00153183 because that were I think people will L-9n_hS8t7u-00557-00153184-00153437 not give me a lot of survey results and L-9n_hS8t7u-00558-00153438-00153563 I won't know what to make of it when it L-9n_hS8t7u-00559-00153564-00153849 happens does anybody want to disagree L-9n_hS8t7u-00560-00153850-00153957 with that that's actually fairly L-9n_hS8t7u-00561-00153958-00154218 controversial opinion anybody through L-9n_hS8t7u-00562-00154219-00154478 the chat have different experiences or L-9n_hS8t7u-00563-00154479-00154901 Rachel or Dan um once you want to L-9n_hS8t7u-00564-00154902-00155268 disagree with me so I think I agree that L-9n_hS8t7u-00565-00155269-00155472 surveys have some challenges and it's L-9n_hS8t7u-00566-00155473-00155682 even a different there's an additional L-9n_hS8t7u-00567-00155683-00155958 set of challenges when doing user L-9n_hS8t7u-00568-00155959-00156470 testing on web resources or other things L-9n_hS8t7u-00569-00156471-00156713 watching someone interact with something L-9n_hS8t7u-00570-00156714-00157050 versus self reporting afterwards can be L-9n_hS8t7u-00571-00157051-00157328 fundamentally different we are not the L-9n_hS8t7u-00572-00157329-00157538 best at reporting on ourselves L-9n_hS8t7u-00573-00157539-00157737 we're also we're often a bit L-9n_hS8t7u-00574-00157738-00158133 self-conscious and tend to try to defend L-9n_hS8t7u-00575-00158134-00158512 our ego when filling out a survey so L-9n_hS8t7u-00576-00158513-00158796 watching someone and having that actual L-9n_hS8t7u-00577-00158797-00159174 user interaction where you see them L-9n_hS8t7u-00578-00159175-00159384 interact you're going to get a much more L-9n_hS8t7u-00579-00159385-00159744 honest unbiased understanding of how L-9n_hS8t7u-00580-00159745-00160052 your resource works are you agree there L-9n_hS8t7u-00581-00160053-00160466 I totally agree with that perfect all L-9n_hS8t7u-00582-00160467-00160605 right let's talk about L-9n_hS8t7u-00583-00160606-00161007 some ways to actually so we've gathered L-9n_hS8t7u-00584-00161008-00161274 information about our audience what are L-9n_hS8t7u-00585-00161275-00161511 some ways to put it out in the world in L-9n_hS8t7u-00586-00161512-00162069 a way that that people can can kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00587-00162070-00162288 process it so it's not just a bunch of L-9n_hS8t7u-00588-00162289-00162576 data one of the ways that I found to be L-9n_hS8t7u-00589-00162577-00162950 most useful is a topic that's are a L-9n_hS8t7u-00590-00162951-00163242 technique that's called personas or is L-9n_hS8t7u-00591-00163243-00163476 this technically for Sony if you want to L-9n_hS8t7u-00592-00163477-00163650 get really technical cuz persona is a L-9n_hS8t7u-00593-00163651-00163818 lagging team and the plaintiff or would L-9n_hS8t7u-00594-00163819-00163929 be Sony L-9n_hS8t7u-00595-00163930-00164355 anyway um so um so this is basically L-9n_hS8t7u-00596-00164356-00164802 we've got a fictitious person who's L-9n_hS8t7u-00597-00164803-00165168 serving is kind of an archetype for us L-9n_hS8t7u-00598-00165169-00165650 to be able to focus our kind of if our L-9n_hS8t7u-00599-00165651-00165951 design energies around cuz a lot easier L-9n_hS8t7u-00600-00165952-00166239 to think about how we would support you L-9n_hS8t7u-00601-00166240-00166512 know Susan who is a supportive social L-9n_hS8t7u-00602-00166513-00166827 worker than it is to kind of think L-9n_hS8t7u-00603-00166828-00167133 through the general idea of how social L-9n_hS8t7u-00604-00167134-00167358 workers want to use the site so we could L-9n_hS8t7u-00605-00167359-00167682 say what we would Susan like this site L-9n_hS8t7u-00606-00167683-00167817 you know and I'm sorry L-9n_hS8t7u-00607-00167818-00168009 we wouldn't say that we would say would L-9n_hS8t7u-00608-00168010-00168258 Susan use this particular feature L-9n_hS8t7u-00609-00168259-00168513 you know what would Susan do here L-9n_hS8t7u-00610-00168514-00168714 alright so the reason I just backed out L-9n_hS8t7u-00611-00168715-00168900 of would Susan like this site is because L-9n_hS8t7u-00612-00168901-00169080 we tend to access are just kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00613-00169081-00169326 mentioned briefly and we try to stay L-9n_hS8t7u-00614-00169327-00169515 away user experience from the idea of L-9n_hS8t7u-00615-00169516-00169755 what people actually like in favor of L-9n_hS8t7u-00616-00169756-00170025 what they actually do or use because L-9n_hS8t7u-00617-00170026-00170205 people will often self-report that they L-9n_hS8t7u-00618-00170206-00170441 like something that does not actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00619-00170442-00170676 save them time or increase their L-9n_hS8t7u-00620-00170677-00170886 understanding or be to any actionable L-9n_hS8t7u-00621-00170887-00171258 goal this what we're looking at here is L-9n_hS8t7u-00622-00171259-00171546 a so this is from Illinois on it is L-9n_hS8t7u-00623-00171547-00171801 using a template that you can easily L-9n_hS8t7u-00624-00171802-00172071 find online if you just search on L-9n_hS8t7u-00625-00172072-00172335 persona template um you will find this L-9n_hS8t7u-00626-00172336-00172797 template that kind of I think so I hope L-9n_hS8t7u-00627-00172798-00172998 you to think through all right here is L-9n_hS8t7u-00628-00172999-00173247 I'm going to just kind of plug in all L-9n_hS8t7u-00629-00173248-00173637 right here's her goals potentially sorry L-9n_hS8t7u-00630-00173638-00173877 for motivations so usually this reads in L-9n_hS8t7u-00631-00173878-00173946 power L-9n_hS8t7u-00632-00173947-00174321 close cases receive recognition a bunch L-9n_hS8t7u-00633-00174322-00174744 of goals challenges here's another one L-9n_hS8t7u-00634-00174745-00174996 this is one that we used for Ohio legal L-9n_hS8t7u-00635-00174997-00175575 help I kind of like so the that that L-9n_hS8t7u-00636-00175576-00175737 particular template we were just looking L-9n_hS8t7u-00637-00175738-00175918 at for me it has a little too much L-9n_hS8t7u-00638-00175919-00176184 information I kind of like a narrative L-9n_hS8t7u-00639-00176185-00176400 instead because it allows you to kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00640-00176401-00176654 cut to the chase a little more quickly L-9n_hS8t7u-00641-00176655-00177252 and yeah and so you can see like for L-9n_hS8t7u-00642-00177253-00177540 instance in this particular case we also L-9n_hS8t7u-00643-00177541-00177813 exploit the persona somewhat differently L-9n_hS8t7u-00644-00177814-00178065 we've got Matthew wanting the big L-9n_hS8t7u-00645-00178066-00178371 picture we also had somebody who's just L-9n_hS8t7u-00646-00178372-00178650 wanted quick answers and we had someone L-9n_hS8t7u-00647-00178651-00178974 who really wanted wanted to court wanted L-9n_hS8t7u-00648-00178975-00179259 someone to tell her the answer but L-9n_hS8t7u-00649-00179260-00179607 things to include in these are context L-9n_hS8t7u-00650-00179608-00179775 so we can really feel like we can get to L-9n_hS8t7u-00651-00179776-00180225 know our persona a little bit how he's L-9n_hS8t7u-00652-00180226-00180429 accessing it so for instance Matthew L-9n_hS8t7u-00653-00180430-00180591 here he doesn't doesn't have a computer L-9n_hS8t7u-00654-00180592-00180798 or a smartphone but he uses the library L-9n_hS8t7u-00655-00180799-00181026 the computer doesn't use the internet a L-9n_hS8t7u-00656-00181027-00181233 lot for every little thing but he can L-9n_hS8t7u-00657-00181234-00181452 generally get by when he needs to use it L-9n_hS8t7u-00658-00181453-00181693 and one admittedly his defining L-9n_hS8t7u-00659-00181694-00181989 characteristic is he wants to understand L-9n_hS8t7u-00660-00181990-00182344 all the options but like in fact all of L-9n_hS8t7u-00661-00182345-00182526 our personas for that he's little L-9n_hS8t7u-00662-00182527-00182700 knowledge of legal terms or potential L-9n_hS8t7u-00663-00182701-00182898 courses of action not a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-00664-00182899-00183279 experience with researching things so L-9n_hS8t7u-00665-00183280-00183675 these are the things to include to help L-9n_hS8t7u-00666-00183676-00184302 make that useful questions or thoughts L-9n_hS8t7u-00667-00184303-00184594 about kind of this whole idea of L-9n_hS8t7u-00668-00184595-00184911 defining your audience before we look a L-9n_hS8t7u-00669-00184912-00185100 little bit at understanding how they L-9n_hS8t7u-00670-00185101-00185494 view the world this is Dan I would just L-9n_hS8t7u-00671-00185495-00185763 throw out here that always includes some L-9n_hS8t7u-00672-00185764-00186033 extreme users in your portfolio of L-9n_hS8t7u-00673-00186034-00186294 personas because that's some that's a L-9n_hS8t7u-00674-00186295-00186411 great way to make sure that whatever L-9n_hS8t7u-00675-00186412-00186585 you're developing is going to be able to L-9n_hS8t7u-00676-00186586-00186870 hit all of the needs of all the fast you L-9n_hS8t7u-00677-00186871-00187083 know all the different folks out there L-9n_hS8t7u-00678-00187084-00187236 with very different needs the extreme L-9n_hS8t7u-00679-00187237-00187303 users or some L-9n_hS8t7u-00680-00187304-00187660 times ones who are most likely to break L-9n_hS8t7u-00681-00187661-00187795 it and therefore you want to have that L-9n_hS8t7u-00682-00187796-00188044 in mind yeah yeah there's actually lots L-9n_hS8t7u-00683-00188045-00188209 of schools of thoughts about this L-9n_hS8t7u-00684-00188210-00188431 there's actually there's you we could L-9n_hS8t7u-00685-00188432-00188646 probably do a whole session on personas L-9n_hS8t7u-00686-00188647-00188896 because one there's a school of thought L-9n_hS8t7u-00687-00188897-00189184 that says you might want to focus in L-9n_hS8t7u-00688-00189185-00189454 only on like one or two extreme users L-9n_hS8t7u-00689-00189455-00189790 particularly if they can if they seem L-9n_hS8t7u-00690-00189791-00190045 like they encompass other folks so to L-9n_hS8t7u-00691-00190046-00190357 say all right well both you know the L-9n_hS8t7u-00692-00190358-00190660 person who is not very literate who is L-9n_hS8t7u-00693-00190661-00190927 using it on a phone who wants to L-9n_hS8t7u-00694-00190928-00191242 understand every option conceivably and L-9n_hS8t7u-00695-00191243-00191452 it's going to be entirely depending on L-9n_hS8t7u-00696-00191453-00191829 the project but conceivably that might L-9n_hS8t7u-00697-00191830-00192190 encompass a lot of other personas and we L-9n_hS8t7u-00698-00192191-00192592 can laser focus on that one which would L-9n_hS8t7u-00699-00192593-00193120 be really handy if we can all right L-9n_hS8t7u-00700-00193121-00193351 let's die let's think about and diving a L-9n_hS8t7u-00701-00193352-00193534 little deeper into understanding how L-9n_hS8t7u-00702-00193535-00193828 they view the world I purposely got this L-9n_hS8t7u-00703-00193829-00194071 this is a upside down map from the L-9n_hS8t7u-00704-00194072-00194458 perspective of Australia so thinking L-9n_hS8t7u-00705-00194459-00194815 about this you know this is often kind L-9n_hS8t7u-00706-00194816-00195100 of what we learn when we talk to people L-9n_hS8t7u-00707-00195101-00195346 on the ground like the facts are the L-9n_hS8t7u-00708-00195347-00195682 same but they're perceived in such a L-9n_hS8t7u-00709-00195683-00196093 different way to not really be possibly L-9n_hS8t7u-00710-00196094-00196378 even that recognizable and so it can L-9n_hS8t7u-00711-00196379-00196666 often be really transformational to go L-9n_hS8t7u-00712-00196667-00197143 talk to real users and and get real L-9n_hS8t7u-00713-00197144-00197617 people involved in your research and L-9n_hS8t7u-00714-00197618-00198421 your project so here's some key things L-9n_hS8t7u-00715-00198422-00198637 that we're going to that you'd want to L-9n_hS8t7u-00716-00198638-00198946 look at here so what would motivate them L-9n_hS8t7u-00717-00198947-00199267 to use the system so you want to think L-9n_hS8t7u-00718-00199268-00199462 through their motivations in general and L-9n_hS8t7u-00719-00199463-00199750 their motivations around the system so L-9n_hS8t7u-00720-00199751-00200011 what are their goals I think it's easy L-9n_hS8t7u-00721-00200012-00200301 for us to focus in on our own goals but L-9n_hS8t7u-00722-00200302-00200464 fundamentally if our L-9n_hS8t7u-00723-00200465-00200679 don't over set intercepts with their L-9n_hS8t7u-00724-00200680-00200998 goals then is made some of that you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00725-00200999-00201220 because then I don't want to system and L-9n_hS8t7u-00726-00201221-00201487 how does how do they currently achieve L-9n_hS8t7u-00727-00201488-00201804 their goals so they have a goal like L-9n_hS8t7u-00728-00201805-00201994 let's say their goal is do you L-9n_hS8t7u-00729-00201995-00202204 understand how to get a divorce L-9n_hS8t7u-00730-00202205-00202552 and they are achieving it in some way L-9n_hS8t7u-00731-00202553-00202762 even if that's going to talk to their L-9n_hS8t7u-00732-00202763-00202921 cousin Larry who really has no idea L-9n_hS8t7u-00733-00202922-00203104 about how to get a divorce and gives L-9n_hS8t7u-00734-00203105-00203497 terrible advice they are achieving the L-9n_hS8t7u-00735-00203498-00203695 goal of understanding this right they're L-9n_hS8t7u-00736-00203696-00203851 not understanding it's not a correct L-9n_hS8t7u-00737-00203852-00203979 understanding but they feel their L-9n_hS8t7u-00738-00203980-00204232 consciousness so it's really important L-9n_hS8t7u-00739-00204233-00204424 to think through their current processes L-9n_hS8t7u-00740-00204425-00204658 and understanding kind of how they think L-9n_hS8t7u-00741-00204659-00204894 about those related processes and what L-9n_hS8t7u-00742-00204896-00205234 works well and what are the gaps um some L-9n_hS8t7u-00743-00205235-00205413 of the same things that we just talked L-9n_hS8t7u-00744-00205414-00205726 about will would work here if nothing L-9n_hS8t7u-00745-00205727-00205984 else quick conversations with people who L-9n_hS8t7u-00746-00205985-00206241 actually work with folks on the ground L-9n_hS8t7u-00747-00206242-00206506 so you'll you'll hear the theme L-9n_hS8t7u-00748-00206507-00206830 throughout so best you talk to the real L-9n_hS8t7u-00749-00206831-00207046 audience if you can't talk to the real L-9n_hS8t7u-00750-00207046-00207223 audience at least go talk to people who L-9n_hS8t7u-00751-00207223-00207462 work with the real idea existing L-9n_hS8t7u-00752-00207463-00207673 research can be really useful we'll talk L-9n_hS8t7u-00753-00207673-00207882 here about interviews focus groups L-9n_hS8t7u-00754-00207883-00208239 surveys are again interesting and we'll L-9n_hS8t7u-00755-00208240-00208432 talk about documenting these through L-9n_hS8t7u-00756-00208433-00208817 mental models or process flows L-9n_hS8t7u-00757-00208819-00209163 interviews so this is a great way to L-9n_hS8t7u-00758-00209164-00209419 understand context this is probably and L-9n_hS8t7u-00759-00209419-00209698 this is my honestly might go to as a L-9n_hS8t7u-00760-00209698-00210055 researcher at the beginning of a project L-9n_hS8t7u-00761-00210056-00210501 to kind of understand what it is that L-9n_hS8t7u-00762-00210502-00210775 how it is that people are thinking and L-9n_hS8t7u-00763-00210776-00211189 to establish kind of the overall context L-9n_hS8t7u-00764-00211190-00211384 for whatever it is that I'm L-9n_hS8t7u-00765-00211385-00211603 investigating so you want to write out L-9n_hS8t7u-00766-00211604-00211831 what questions you'll ask and his Dan L-9n_hS8t7u-00767-00211832-00212035 mentioned before you definitely don't L-9n_hS8t7u-00768-00212036-00212206 want to make it feel like a fishing L-9n_hS8t7u-00769-00212207-00212467 expedition you want to make it feel like L-9n_hS8t7u-00770-00212467-00212680 you are asking questions that they will L-9n_hS8t7u-00771-00212681-00212935 know the answer to so it's not just the L-9n_hS8t7u-00772-00212936-00213133 general there's three questions in a L-9n_hS8t7u-00773-00213134-00213408 half-hour interview it's more like there L-9n_hS8t7u-00774-00213409-00213689 fifteen questions or ten questions and a L-9n_hS8t7u-00775-00213690-00213980 half-hour interview you want to write L-9n_hS8t7u-00776-00213981-00214121 them out but you don't want to actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00777-00214121-00214483 read them verbatim - sounds really L-9n_hS8t7u-00778-00214484-00214598 descriptive you want to make it a L-9n_hS8t7u-00779-00214598-00214921 conversation let's start with easy L-9n_hS8t7u-00780-00214923-00215303 questions so don't start with you know a L-9n_hS8t7u-00781-00215304-00215608 really world-changing question almost L-9n_hS8t7u-00782-00215609-00216023 anybody that you talked to will say that L-9n_hS8t7u-00783-00216023-00216230 they don't know enough about whatever L-9n_hS8t7u-00784-00216231-00216473 you're asking them about to offer an L-9n_hS8t7u-00785-00216473-00216851 opinion is strangely enough exactly L-9n_hS8t7u-00786-00216852-00217021 though I find the more experts they are L-9n_hS8t7u-00787-00217023-00217301 in that particular area the more likely L-9n_hS8t7u-00788-00217302-00217417 they are to tell you that they don't L-9n_hS8t7u-00789-00217419-00217538 actually know anything about it L-9n_hS8t7u-00790-00217539-00217757 and it's certainly true if you're going L-9n_hS8t7u-00791-00217758-00218008 out to talk to members of your target L-9n_hS8t7u-00792-00218009-00218279 audience that you want to start by L-9n_hS8t7u-00793-00218280-00218446 thinking about making them comfortable L-9n_hS8t7u-00794-00218448-00218678 establishing you know a bit of a rapport L-9n_hS8t7u-00795-00218679-00218957 make yourself not seem approachable or L-9n_hS8t7u-00796-00218958-00219158 not L-9n_hS8t7u-00797-00219159-00219559 kind of in an ivory tower and I actually L-9n_hS8t7u-00798-00219560-00219796 find real really helpful mental model L-9n_hS8t7u-00799-00219798-00219946 for this for myself L-9n_hS8t7u-00800-00219948-00220127 if thinking of myself is there a L-9n_hS8t7u-00801-00220128-00220415 Prentice to understand what they think L-9n_hS8t7u-00802-00220416-00220633 and do certainly no one understands what L-9n_hS8t7u-00803-00220634-00220804 they think and do better than they do L-9n_hS8t7u-00804-00220805-00221098 and so and that is all I'm there to do L-9n_hS8t7u-00805-00221100-00221588 is understand what they think so that L-9n_hS8t7u-00806-00221589-00221705 may or may not be helpful either but L-9n_hS8t7u-00807-00221706-00221963 it's always been helping me and again L-9n_hS8t7u-00808-00221964-00222234 three to four people for each L-9n_hS8t7u-00809-00222235-00222563 demographic you care about this can L-9n_hS8t7u-00810-00222564-00222755 actually get fairly complicated fairly L-9n_hS8t7u-00811-00222756-00223103 fast because if we say alright and we L-9n_hS8t7u-00812-00223104-00223439 feel like we care about both people who L-9n_hS8t7u-00813-00223440-00223732 are living in urban areas and people in L-9n_hS8t7u-00814-00223733-00224054 suburban and in and we care about L-9n_hS8t7u-00815-00224055-00224441 high-tech literacy and low-tech literacy L-9n_hS8t7u-00816-00224442-00224750 this ends - you can't be the typical way L-9n_hS8t7u-00817-00224751-00225080 to do that as the form of matrix of kind L-9n_hS8t7u-00818-00225081-00225269 of thinking through all right about how L-9n_hS8t7u-00819-00225269-00225452 many people would that be an either L-9n_hS8t7u-00820-00225453-00225871 carefully or approximately trying to L-9n_hS8t7u-00821-00225873-00226294 segment L-9n_hS8t7u-00822-00226294-00226765 Geron Rachel any thoughts on interviews L-9n_hS8t7u-00823-00226766-00227069 um so in terms of starting with easy L-9n_hS8t7u-00824-00227069-00227398 questions that was when we were doing L-9n_hS8t7u-00825-00227399-00227731 our user testing one thing that I wish L-9n_hS8t7u-00826-00227732-00227881 we have thought about when we were L-9n_hS8t7u-00827-00227882-00228014 writing our script as we did start with L-9n_hS8t7u-00828-00228015-00228127 what we thought was an easy question L-9n_hS8t7u-00829-00228128-00228532 which was what he do and we were testing L-9n_hS8t7u-00830-00228533-00228931 with low-income users and many of them L-9n_hS8t7u-00831-00228932-00229135 were not employed and we quickly L-9n_hS8t7u-00832-00229136-00229327 realized that that was just totally L-9n_hS8t7u-00833-00229328-00229735 off-putting and not a pleasant way to L-9n_hS8t7u-00834-00229736-00230077 start the conversation on and so we L-9n_hS8t7u-00835-00230078-00230458 alter that a few interviews into you L-9n_hS8t7u-00836-00230459-00230617 know who do you live with like what's L-9n_hS8t7u-00837-00230619-00230773 your family like and that was much more L-9n_hS8t7u-00838-00230774-00231019 effective and much more conversational L-9n_hS8t7u-00839-00231021-00231250 so just thinking about the you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00840-00231251-00231406 cultural context that you're in when L-9n_hS8t7u-00841-00231407-00231563 you're doing your interviews it's L-9n_hS8t7u-00842-00231564-00231839 something I wish I had known absolutely L-9n_hS8t7u-00843-00231840-00231971 no yeah the only thing I would add on L-9n_hS8t7u-00844-00231971-00232135 that is you know interview questions L-9n_hS8t7u-00845-00232136-00232294 it's a tricky balance because you have L-9n_hS8t7u-00846-00232296-00232429 to be detailed enough to get what you L-9n_hS8t7u-00847-00232430-00232576 need but at the same time if you're too L-9n_hS8t7u-00848-00232577-00232739 focused you're going to miss out on a L-9n_hS8t7u-00849-00232740-00233025 lot of potentially valuable information L-9n_hS8t7u-00850-00233026-00233315 you know especially for lawyer designers L-9n_hS8t7u-00851-00233316-00233471 I think we can sometimes get a little L-9n_hS8t7u-00852-00233471-00233612 bit too detailed and it's not a L-9n_hS8t7u-00853-00233613-00233896 deposition outline that you know you L-9n_hS8t7u-00854-00233898-00234055 want to be thinking more along the lines L-9n_hS8t7u-00855-00234056-00234223 of broader questions that will allow L-9n_hS8t7u-00856-00234224-00234535 people to really explain how they might L-9n_hS8t7u-00857-00234536-00234667 interact your homee that they might use L-9n_hS8t7u-00858-00234669-00235399 this product yeah happy vulpes Bruce I'm L-9n_hS8t7u-00859-00235400-00235565 gonna actually move a little more L-9n_hS8t7u-00860-00235566-00235744 quickly through things because I'm L-9n_hS8t7u-00861-00235746-00235919 realizing that I am I want to take away L-9n_hS8t7u-00862-00235919-00236172 time from our our case studies here L-9n_hS8t7u-00863-00236173-00236537 focus groups are in my mind generally L-9n_hS8t7u-00864-00236538-00236932 quicker um but often not as good as an L-9n_hS8t7u-00865-00236933-00237223 interview especially if you're not very L-9n_hS8t7u-00866-00237224-00237502 very skilled facilitator of focus L-9n_hS8t7u-00867-00237503-00237807 they're harder in my mind to do well um L-9n_hS8t7u-00868-00237808-00238067 so again you want to write things out L-9n_hS8t7u-00869-00238067-00238313 but make it a conversation on groups L-9n_hS8t7u-00870-00238314-00238569 about five to eight enough so that if L-9n_hS8t7u-00871-00238571-00238838 people cancel you'll still have a group L-9n_hS8t7u-00872-00238839-00238972 but not so many that you got L-9n_hS8t7u-00873-00238973-00239194 overwhelming I'm helpful to have Google L-9n_hS8t7u-00874-00239196-00239373 that have exercises or L-9n_hS8t7u-00875-00239373-00239637 exercise the risk of you together if you L-9n_hS8t7u-00876-00239638-00239805 want to think through who you're having L-9n_hS8t7u-00877-00239806-00240201 in the room so that if you can to try to L-9n_hS8t7u-00878-00240202-00240429 avoid having one person or two people L-9n_hS8t7u-00879-00240430-00240651 that everybody else will defer to in the L-9n_hS8t7u-00880-00240652-00240852 room because it basically at that point L-9n_hS8t7u-00881-00240853-00241023 it becomes an interview and you just got L-9n_hS8t7u-00882-00241023-00241119 a bunch of people sitting in the room L-9n_hS8t7u-00883-00241119-00241464 touring and it can be empty tricky to L-9n_hS8t7u-00884-00241465-00241721 figure out how to how do you take no L-9n_hS8t7u-00885-00241723-00241881 time to record it so make sure you think L-9n_hS8t7u-00886-00241882-00242171 about that and dance and I know you L-9n_hS8t7u-00887-00242173-00242319 mentioned that you have some experience L-9n_hS8t7u-00888-00242319-00242532 with it what about here L-9n_hS8t7u-00889-00242533-00242703 no just that I wanted a plan with focus L-9n_hS8t7u-00890-00242704-00242877 groups I think the most successful if L-9n_hS8t7u-00891-00242878-00243015 you have if you're working with a wide L-9n_hS8t7u-00892-00243016-00243177 range of stakeholders and you're going L-9n_hS8t7u-00893-00243178-00243260 to do focus groups L-9n_hS8t7u-00894-00243261-00243426 I would keep or consider at least L-9n_hS8t7u-00895-00243427-00243663 keeping your focus groups to one L-9n_hS8t7u-00896-00243664-00243867 discipline or one group subgroup of your L-9n_hS8t7u-00897-00243867-00244056 stakeholders because you really do end L-9n_hS8t7u-00898-00244057-00244263 up with you can end up it's very easy L-9n_hS8t7u-00899-00244264-00244373 especially if you've got lawyers and L-9n_hS8t7u-00900-00244375-00244569 non-lawyers in a focus group it's very L-9n_hS8t7u-00901-00244569-00244746 easy for the lawyers to dominate both L-9n_hS8t7u-00902-00244746-00244956 because lawyers tend to do that but also L-9n_hS8t7u-00903-00244957-00245091 because the other folks around the table L-9n_hS8t7u-00904-00245092-00245373 if you're the point of the focus group L-9n_hS8t7u-00905-00245373-00245559 has to do with a legal issue they will L-9n_hS8t7u-00906-00245560-00245802 often defer sort of automatically so I L-9n_hS8t7u-00907-00245803-00246017 have and when I've used focus groups L-9n_hS8t7u-00908-00246019-00246183 we've tended to you know we're going to L-9n_hS8t7u-00909-00246184-00246317 have judges we're gonna have all judges L-9n_hS8t7u-00910-00246319-00246477 together and then they'll have you know L-9n_hS8t7u-00911-00246478-00246653 self represented litigants separately L-9n_hS8t7u-00912-00246654-00246915 yeah great I'm so glad you said that I L-9n_hS8t7u-00913-00246916-00247026 don't word you go in the opposite L-9n_hS8t7u-00914-00247027-00247155 direction no I have hundred percent L-9n_hS8t7u-00915-00247156-00247656 agree great and keep in mind that L-9n_hS8t7u-00916-00247657-00247983 recruiting is often for for all of these L-9n_hS8t7u-00917-00247984-00248358 things for interviews focus groups focus L-9n_hS8t7u-00918-00248359-00248676 roots on it recruiting may be as hard or L-9n_hS8t7u-00919-00248677-00248898 harder than actually conducting them so L-9n_hS8t7u-00920-00248898-00249030 figuring out where are the people coming L-9n_hS8t7u-00921-00249031-00249504 from how do you get them in a room so L-9n_hS8t7u-00922-00249505-00249794 it's ideally if you're doing something L-9n_hS8t7u-00923-00249796-00249998 relatively short so you're doing like a L-9n_hS8t7u-00924-00250000-00250203 short interview go to where the people L-9n_hS8t7u-00925-00250204-00250604 are already so basically show up at a I L-9n_hS8t7u-00926-00250605-00250859 mean it could be in any place you L-9n_hS8t7u-00927-00250860-00250980 probably want to go someplace where you L-9n_hS8t7u-00928-00250981-00251190 have permission to do it but you could L-9n_hS8t7u-00929-00251191-00251442 go to a like Rachel invention if you L-9n_hS8t7u-00930-00251442-00251846 knew the actual agency and just L-9n_hS8t7u-00931-00251848-00252033 basically just see if you can find L-9n_hS8t7u-00932-00252034-00252315 people who are willing to take 10 L-9n_hS8t7u-00933-00252316-00252513 minutes or take 20 minutes or even take L-9n_hS8t7u-00934-00252514-00252659 a half an hour L-9n_hS8t7u-00935-00252660-00253084 to talk with you or do we use a test L-9n_hS8t7u-00936-00253085-00253382 incentives things like a $10 gift card L-9n_hS8t7u-00937-00253383-00253742 seem like so in my experience in with a L-9n_hS8t7u-00938-00253744-00253973 couple of user fests with this kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-00939-00253974-00254183 low-income population seems to be L-9n_hS8t7u-00940-00254184-00254348 sufficient to in fact seems to be L-9n_hS8t7u-00941-00254349-00254759 popular and remember in with you're L-9n_hS8t7u-00942-00254760-00255012 doing appointments in advance that many L-9n_hS8t7u-00943-00255013-00255383 people will cancel and you can't you L-9n_hS8t7u-00944-00255384-00255494 certainly don't want to do things like L-9n_hS8t7u-00945-00255496-00255722 double booked yourself which would be L-9n_hS8t7u-00946-00255723-00256146 really unfriendly but remember that that L-9n_hS8t7u-00947-00256146-00256328 is a possibility you don't want to L-9n_hS8t7u-00948-00256329-00256508 assume that 100% would be there or L-9n_hS8t7u-00949-00256509-00256737 you'll get past the people and it will L-9n_hS8t7u-00950-00256738-00257219 go awry Rachel you want to add just L-9n_hS8t7u-00951-00257221-00257375 something quickly on recruiting I know L-9n_hS8t7u-00952-00257376-00257538 that you guys gave a lot of thought to L-9n_hS8t7u-00953-00257539-00257978 recruiting yeah so we were very L-9n_hS8t7u-00954-00257979-00258392 fortunate that we had good relationships L-9n_hS8t7u-00955-00258394-00258696 going in with our test sites I mean as L-9n_hS8t7u-00956-00258696-00258917 you said before you might want to pick a L-9n_hS8t7u-00957-00258919-00259151 site where you you know have a good L-9n_hS8t7u-00958-00259152-00259430 relationship with the staff already that L-9n_hS8t7u-00959-00259431-00259907 will make it easier and and another kind L-9n_hS8t7u-00960-00259908-00260306 of tip that we had was having the staff L-9n_hS8t7u-00961-00260307-00260613 members who theoretically at least for L-9n_hS8t7u-00962-00260614-00260913 us at the Community Action agencies the L-9n_hS8t7u-00963-00260914-00261146 users were already very comfortable with L-9n_hS8t7u-00964-00261146-00261422 and associated them with like receiving L-9n_hS8t7u-00965-00261423-00261755 you know good outcome so when the staff L-9n_hS8t7u-00966-00261756-00261902 members asked them to participate I L-9n_hS8t7u-00967-00261903-00262041 think they were much more comfortable L-9n_hS8t7u-00968-00262042-00262397 versus me a stranger in a suit coming up L-9n_hS8t7u-00969-00262398-00262685 to them and asking them questions so L-9n_hS8t7u-00970-00262686-00263243 that was very effective just a couple of L-9n_hS8t7u-00971-00263244-00263591 thoughts about what to do with the data L-9n_hS8t7u-00972-00263592-00264104 so you typically or so an in-person or L-9n_hS8t7u-00973-00264105-00264422 or all over phone interview or a focus L-9n_hS8t7u-00974-00264423-00264599 group or a user task so for all of the L-9n_hS8t7u-00975-00264600-00264884 things that we'll be talking about you L-9n_hS8t7u-00976-00264885-00265146 typically take handwritten notes and L-9n_hS8t7u-00977-00265147-00265494 then you very soon afterwards try to L-9n_hS8t7u-00978-00265495-00265812 write it up so that you don't lose like L-9n_hS8t7u-00979-00265813-00265887 ten Bruno L-9n_hS8t7u-00980-00265888-00266081 you tend to forget what they mean very L-9n_hS8t7u-00981-00266082-00266220 quickly because everything for us to L-9n_hS8t7u-00982-00266221-00266519 blend together so you will typically L-9n_hS8t7u-00983-00266520-00266759 write up the notes and then you go L-9n_hS8t7u-00984-00266760-00267035 through and code them so like for L-9n_hS8t7u-00985-00267036-00267243 instance they'll you'll have a statement L-9n_hS8t7u-00986-00267244-00267485 and the statement would by this person L-9n_hS8t7u-00987-00267486-00267782 or this number of participant number and L-9n_hS8t7u-00988-00267783-00268038 you'll put codes on it to simply say all L-9n_hS8t7u-00989-00268039-00268283 right well this one I decree that this L-9n_hS8t7u-00990-00268284-00268623 one is about walk out and these three L-9n_hS8t7u-00991-00268624-00268899 are about walk out and then I'm just L-9n_hS8t7u-00992-00268900-00269097 going to like maybe for this particular L-9n_hS8t7u-00993-00269098-00269300 set of data I feel like out with one L-9n_hS8t7u-00994-00269301-00269576 category isn't sufficient I'm going to L-9n_hS8t7u-00995-00269577-00269801 add another one about not knowing who to L-9n_hS8t7u-00996-00269802-00270066 call so I can vomit L-9n_hS8t7u-00997-00270067-00270390 kind of a different way and then I can L-9n_hS8t7u-00998-00270391-00270701 quantify this way so I can say all right L-9n_hS8t7u-00999-00270702-00271071 80% of those illegally evicted simply L-9n_hS8t7u-01000-00271072-00271327 moved on without taking any action and L-9n_hS8t7u-01001-00271328-00271580 36% specifically mentioned that they L-9n_hS8t7u-01002-00271581-00271740 didn't know who the contacts preserve L-9n_hS8t7u-01003-00271741-00272043 their rights so this is completely L-9n_hS8t7u-01004-00272044-00272225 legitimate data you know this is L-9n_hS8t7u-01005-00272226-00272367 something that is done in academic L-9n_hS8t7u-01006-00272368-00272598 research all the time it's L-9n_hS8t7u-01007-00272599-00272967 time-consuming um I generally estimated L-9n_hS8t7u-01008-00272968-00273240 at about an hour for each interview hour L-9n_hS8t7u-01009-00273241-00273540 so basically a minute per minute on the L-9n_hS8t7u-01010-00273541-00273830 actual time that it took to conduct the L-9n_hS8t7u-01011-00273831-00274007 interviews to then analyze it and L-9n_hS8t7u-01012-00274008-00274475 quantify it here's another thing that L-9n_hS8t7u-01013-00274476-00274788 you can do with this and sometimes you L-9n_hS8t7u-01014-00274789-00275354 get a lot of data that you then two L-9n_hS8t7u-01015-00275355-00275538 harms to quantify you kind of just get a L-9n_hS8t7u-01016-00275539-00275766 feel for how people are doing things L-9n_hS8t7u-01017-00275767-00276066 this is a diagram that's sometimes L-9n_hS8t7u-01018-00276067-00276353 called a mental model diagram rachel is L-9n_hS8t7u-01019-00276354-00276492 going to actually talk about this L-9n_hS8t7u-01020-00276493-00276707 specific diagram and in fact I know she L-9n_hS8t7u-01021-00276708-00276942 picked a very specific very similar L-9n_hS8t7u-01022-00276943-00277116 screenshot so I'm not going to actually L-9n_hS8t7u-01023-00277117-00277355 talk you much through this but the idea L-9n_hS8t7u-01024-00277356-00277775 of it is that basically I am documenting L-9n_hS8t7u-01025-00277776-00278105 the general trends of what people in L-9n_hS8t7u-01026-00278106-00278378 this particular screenshot are saying L-9n_hS8t7u-01027-00278379-00278724 that they will how they use internet L-9n_hS8t7u-01028-00278725-00278988 research so they'll quickly scan the L-9n_hS8t7u-01029-00278989-00279131 page to look at it see if it looks L-9n_hS8t7u-01030-00279132-00279300 credible and useful and you're something L-9n_hS8t7u-01031-00279301-00279558 about this quickly scan a few people I L-9n_hS8t7u-01032-00279559-00279810 need is there this particular one was L-9n_hS8t7u-01033-00279811-00280026 actually created based on academic L-9n_hS8t7u-01034-00280027-00280386 research so we never actually spoke to L-9n_hS8t7u-01035-00280387-00280841 anyone for this we used by five academic L-9n_hS8t7u-01036-00280842-00281163 pieces of research which in total had L-9n_hS8t7u-01037-00281164-00281568 like 200 interviews so it more than that L-9n_hS8t7u-01038-00281569-00281811 in fact so it summarized a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01039-00281812-00282156 different research another thing to L-9n_hS8t7u-01040-00282157-00282351 explore further if you have a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01041-00282352-00282558 this kind of data is something called a L-9n_hS8t7u-01042-00282559-00282830 customer journey now which is another L-9n_hS8t7u-01043-00282831-00283242 kind of diagram that is the the term the L-9n_hS8t7u-01044-00283243-00283413 term is used a lot for a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01045-00283414-00283764 different things but just in general it L-9n_hS8t7u-01046-00283765-00284169 refers to mapping out a process that's L-9n_hS8t7u-01047-00284170-00284391 either a kind of process in time or in L-9n_hS8t7u-01048-00284392-00284700 space or both and then kind of what L-9n_hS8t7u-01049-00284701-00284925 people are thinking and during doing L-9n_hS8t7u-01050-00284926-00285165 during that so this would be another L-9n_hS8t7u-01051-00285166-00285378 term to kind of look off if you're L-9n_hS8t7u-01052-00285379-00285711 thinking about doing diagrams I find a L-9n_hS8t7u-01053-00285712-00286104 mental model is easier classes and in L-9n_hS8t7u-01054-00286105-00286239 fact you can do something that's pretty L-9n_hS8t7u-01055-00286240-00286425 journey map like with just a bunch of L-9n_hS8t7u-01056-00286426-00286770 boxes this one tends to look more like L-9n_hS8t7u-01057-00286771-00287010 this which kind of requires a little L-9n_hS8t7u-01058-00287011-00287637 more fancy visual design fill questions L-9n_hS8t7u-01059-00287638-00288011 thoughts on any of that stuff before we L-9n_hS8t7u-01060-00288012-00288432 talk about user testing getting their L-9n_hS8t7u-01061-00288433-00289743 reaction great all right so just are L-9n_hS8t7u-01062-00289744-00290025 kind of quick overview here so now we're L-9n_hS8t7u-01063-00290026-00290244 thinking about how does the audience you L-9n_hS8t7u-01064-00290245-00290631 use oh well here's one that will L-9n_hS8t7u-01065-00290632-00290775 actually look at more and more these now L-9n_hS8t7u-01066-00290776-00290970 how do i didn't use other people's L-9n_hS8t7u-01067-00290971-00291189 systems for doing what we're talking L-9n_hS8t7u-01068-00291190-00291240 about L-9n_hS8t7u-01069-00291241-00291471 how do your designs work in real life L-9n_hS8t7u-01070-00291472-00291792 how Derrick are they how are well is L-9n_hS8t7u-01071-00291793-00291987 able to understand and use the design L-9n_hS8t7u-01072-00291988-00292401 and I last and I would say we what L-9n_hS8t7u-01073-00292402-00292603 suggestions do they have to improve L-9n_hS8t7u-01074-00292604-00293020 design and so I feel like when you're L-9n_hS8t7u-01075-00293021-00293275 doing user testing specifically and this L-9n_hS8t7u-01076-00293276-00293449 actually becomes a little different and L-9n_hS8t7u-01077-00293450-00293665 we'll talk about Co design sessions as L-9n_hS8t7u-01078-00293666-00293866 part of this a co design is a little L-9n_hS8t7u-01079-00293867-00294133 different user testing you're generally L-9n_hS8t7u-01080-00294134-00294439 focused particularly on what it is that L-9n_hS8t7u-01081-00294440-00294877 they're actually doing as they test and L-9n_hS8t7u-01082-00294878-00295186 you can think for here through testing L-9n_hS8t7u-01083-00295187-00295405 your site testing other people's site L-9n_hS8t7u-01084-00295406-00295681 testing people prototypes on in Co L-9n_hS8t7u-01085-00295682-00296073 design sessions which will define L-9n_hS8t7u-01086-00296074-00296188 alright L-9n_hS8t7u-01087-00296189-00296410 these are testing basic user testing I L-9n_hS8t7u-01088-00296411-00296701 would say is the opposite of surveys it L-9n_hS8t7u-01089-00296702-00297007 is much easier to do than people think L-9n_hS8t7u-01090-00297008-00297361 and it is harder to go wrong so it is L-9n_hS8t7u-01091-00297362-00297730 worth trying there's definitely you want L-9n_hS8t7u-01092-00297731-00298069 to think about what you're doing so you L-9n_hS8t7u-01093-00298070-00298309 want to practice a little bit you want L-9n_hS8t7u-01094-00298310-00298603 to think through best practices but L-9n_hS8t7u-01095-00298604-00299079 there's really no there's no harm in L-9n_hS8t7u-01096-00299080-00299449 getting you know actually audience L-9n_hS8t7u-01097-00299450-00299872 feedback on things and things I would L-9n_hS8t7u-01098-00299873-00300220 say the earlier the better so there's no L-9n_hS8t7u-01099-00300221-00300421 point in designing and building an L-9n_hS8t7u-01100-00300422-00300787 entire a website and then testing it and L-9n_hS8t7u-01101-00300788-00300967 finding that there's a lot that you L-9n_hS8t7u-01102-00300968-00301123 would change about it except you're L-9n_hS8t7u-01103-00301124-00301324 supposed to launch in two weeks like L-9n_hS8t7u-01104-00301325-00301597 that's just a waste of testing to me so L-9n_hS8t7u-01105-00301598-00301753 you want to try to think through how you L-9n_hS8t7u-01106-00301754-00302032 can cuss or lis in order to get that L-9n_hS8t7u-01107-00302033-00302563 feedback so let's see so fortifies L-9n_hS8t7u-01108-00302564-00302920 people for like a half an hour scenario L-9n_hS8t7u-01109-00302921-00303220 so generally a user test is about a half L-9n_hS8t7u-01110-00303221-00303364 an hour don't need to be less than half L-9n_hS8t7u-01111-00303365-00303808 an hour in general you'll get a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01112-00303809-00303994 the feedback you're going to get like I L-9n_hS8t7u-01113-00303995-00304180 think there's someone there's a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01114-00304181-00304360 studies here that say actually like L-9n_hS8t7u-01115-00304361-00304495 eighty percent of the feedback you're L-9n_hS8t7u-01116-00304496-00304660 going to get people can get four or five L-9n_hS8t7u-01117-00304661-00305005 people you want to script out the test L-9n_hS8t7u-01118-00305006-00305377 carefully so you want to write down the L-9n_hS8t7u-01119-00305378-00305551 questions you're going to ask you want L-9n_hS8t7u-01120-00305552-00305728 to think through how the flow is going L-9n_hS8t7u-01121-00305729-00305760 to L-9n_hS8t7u-01122-00305761-00306064 you want to try it out because L-9n_hS8t7u-01123-00306065-00306289 especially if you're working with folks L-9n_hS8t7u-01124-00306290-00306568 who are less internet savvy they're kind L-9n_hS8t7u-01125-00306569-00306750 of a power dynamic between you and them L-9n_hS8t7u-01126-00306751-00306933 you want to make sure there's not just L-9n_hS8t7u-01127-00306934-00307083 kind of weird awkwardness as a little L-9n_hS8t7u-01128-00307084-00307213 test we're just going to throw off the L-9n_hS8t7u-01129-00307214-00307749 whole dynamic and the feedback so you L-9n_hS8t7u-01130-00307750-00308075 basically ask them to take the computer L-9n_hS8t7u-01131-00308076-00308358 and do what they would do if you weren't L-9n_hS8t7u-01132-00308359-00308412 there L-9n_hS8t7u-01133-00308413-00308770 give them a scenario and ask them to L-9n_hS8t7u-01134-00308771-00308845 think out loud L-9n_hS8t7u-01135-00308846-00309064 so basically ask them to talk a little L-9n_hS8t7u-01136-00309065-00309228 bit about why they're doing what they're L-9n_hS8t7u-01137-00309229-00309582 doing is the general sense and it's L-9n_hS8t7u-01138-00309583-00309798 useful to try to give them a real L-9n_hS8t7u-01139-00309799-00310179 scenario all the way to if you can L-9n_hS8t7u-01140-00310180-00310570 asking them to think of a time when what L-9n_hS8t7u-01141-00310571-00310725 you're doing would have applied to them L-9n_hS8t7u-01142-00310726-00311113 and they can you know come up with the L-9n_hS8t7u-01143-00311114-00311304 name come up with a scenario that they L-9n_hS8t7u-01144-00311305-00311478 would actually walk through themselves L-9n_hS8t7u-01145-00311479-00311733 that's the ideal I find them is often L-9n_hS8t7u-01146-00311734-00312024 tricky um at least give them a scenario L-9n_hS8t7u-01147-00312025-00312297 that they can kind of put themselves in L-9n_hS8t7u-01148-00312298-00312745 and kind of play out through recruiting L-9n_hS8t7u-01149-00312746-00312924 may be tricky in the same way as L-9n_hS8t7u-01150-00312925-00313479 everything else so this is to my mind L-9n_hS8t7u-01151-00313480-00313704 it sounds intimidating when I talk L-9n_hS8t7u-01152-00313705-00314014 through it but in fact it is really not L-9n_hS8t7u-01153-00314015-00314310 that hard and here is if you google this L-9n_hS8t7u-01154-00314311-00314550 are we can send the link around rocket L-9n_hS8t7u-01155-00314551-00314754 surgery made easy by Keith Krug L-9n_hS8t7u-01156-00314755-00315078 this is a book um but he has I'll put L-9n_hS8t7u-01157-00315079-00315337 out a usability demo which is just him L-9n_hS8t7u-01158-00315338-00315582 on YouTube it's just a video again L-9n_hS8t7u-01159-00315583-00315810 during the user test you can see how it L-9n_hS8t7u-01160-00315811-00316322 really is not all that complicated L-9n_hS8t7u-01161-00316323-00316584 Rachael you want to talk for just 30 L-9n_hS8t7u-01162-00316585-00316899 seconds or so about kind of what you L-9n_hS8t7u-01163-00316900-00317024 found L-9n_hS8t7u-01164-00317025-00317242 but let's legit let's go with a positive L-9n_hS8t7u-01165-00317243-00317424 side what you found easier than you L-9n_hS8t7u-01166-00317425-00317898 expected about you for passing yeah so L-9n_hS8t7u-01167-00317899-00318279 first of all I you recommended L-9n_hS8t7u-01168-00318280-00318705 practicing beforehand so what I did was L-9n_hS8t7u-01169-00318706-00318831 I practiced with one of my colleagues L-9n_hS8t7u-01170-00318832-00319038 but I was very comfortable with and L-9n_hS8t7u-01171-00319039-00319232 I recorded it and then listened to it L-9n_hS8t7u-01172-00319233-00319430 later and also took feedback from Laura L-9n_hS8t7u-01173-00319431-00319872 and my colleague and that really put me L-9n_hS8t7u-01174-00319873-00320196 at ease and especially once I realized L-9n_hS8t7u-01175-00320197-00320349 that as I got more comfortable in the L-9n_hS8t7u-01176-00320350-00320592 test it was much better and so I was L-9n_hS8t7u-01177-00320593-00320783 like oh well if I just relax you know I L-9n_hS8t7u-01178-00320784-00321075 don't have anything to worry about it L-9n_hS8t7u-01179-00321076-00321348 was also you know kind of a situation L-9n_hS8t7u-01180-00321349-00321741 where I was afraid that people would ask L-9n_hS8t7u-01181-00321742-00322023 me questions that I couldn't answer or I L-9n_hS8t7u-01182-00322024-00322173 wouldn't be able to you know inspire L-9n_hS8t7u-01183-00322174-00322535 confidence in them and then I got there L-9n_hS8t7u-01184-00322536-00322754 and I realized oh well first of all of L-9n_hS8t7u-01185-00322755-00322869 working on this project for a year and a L-9n_hS8t7u-01186-00322870-00323075 half Sebastian you know I am the expert L-9n_hS8t7u-01187-00323076-00323499 and secondly people really felt like we L-9n_hS8t7u-01188-00323500-00324000 were listening to them and they we we L-9n_hS8t7u-01189-00324001-00324185 offered the $10 gift card incentive that L-9n_hS8t7u-01190-00324186-00324390 we talked about earlier and just with L-9n_hS8t7u-01191-00324391-00324707 those two things people were very you L-9n_hS8t7u-01192-00324708-00325020 know positive towards us and and so I L-9n_hS8t7u-01193-00325021-00325175 think I will intimidated and I thought L-9n_hS8t7u-01194-00325176-00325365 people would you know question why I was L-9n_hS8t7u-01195-00325366-00325532 asking them to do things or kind of give L-9n_hS8t7u-01196-00325533-00325917 me resistance and I think just by L-9n_hS8t7u-01197-00325918-00326297 relaxing and realizing that uh you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01198-00326298-00326517 not only are they doing me a favor but I L-9n_hS8t7u-01199-00326518-00326697 was doing them a favor it made the whole L-9n_hS8t7u-01200-00326698-00327128 process a lot more comfortable great I L-9n_hS8t7u-01201-00327129-00327312 mean so ah L-9n_hS8t7u-01202-00327313-00327635 so I'm capturing the data so something L-9n_hS8t7u-01203-00327636-00327888 that people often don't think about L-9n_hS8t7u-01204-00327889-00328197 until too late if you're going to like L-9n_hS8t7u-01205-00328198-00328409 so if you're only doing four or five you L-9n_hS8t7u-01206-00328410-00328775 can probably just understand what the L-9n_hS8t7u-01207-00328776-00329022 issues are and realize if you're going L-9n_hS8t7u-01208-00329023-00329244 to do a larger set because for instance L-9n_hS8t7u-01209-00329245-00329415 you are testing for a bunch of different L-9n_hS8t7u-01210-00329416-00329763 things then you are getting bunch of L-9n_hS8t7u-01211-00329764-00329951 options compared to each other L-9n_hS8t7u-01212-00329952-00330107 you probably want something like a L-9n_hS8t7u-01213-00330108-00330390 spreadsheet like this to write them up L-9n_hS8t7u-01214-00330391-00330677 after so you can see things like what L-9n_hS8t7u-01215-00330678-00330863 path did they came through the sites L-9n_hS8t7u-01216-00330864-00331113 comments or issues or good things or bad L-9n_hS8t7u-01217-00331114-00331655 things syrup so different things that L-9n_hS8t7u-01218-00331656-00331949 you can test um here's another thing L-9n_hS8t7u-01219-00331950-00332073 that I think that people don't think L-9n_hS8t7u-01220-00332074-00332231 about nearly as L-9n_hS8t7u-01221-00332232-00332613 much as they could there's no reason L-9n_hS8t7u-01222-00332614-00332913 that you can't test things that other L-9n_hS8t7u-01223-00332914-00333254 people built if it is public and it is L-9n_hS8t7u-01224-00333255-00333728 live on the web then you test it so like L-9n_hS8t7u-01225-00333729-00333908 braces is a screenshot of I think this L-9n_hS8t7u-01226-00333909-00334014 is Virginia's L-9n_hS8t7u-01227-00334015-00334346 pro bono portal if I were in a barbecue L-9n_hS8t7u-01228-00334347-00334730 areas like that if I were building a pro L-9n_hS8t7u-01229-00334731-00335081 bono portal there's no reason that I L-9n_hS8t7u-01230-00335082-00335324 couldn't test a number of them to L-9n_hS8t7u-01231-00335325-00335501 understand what works well and what L-9n_hS8t7u-01232-00335502-00335648 doesn't work this is something that's L-9n_hS8t7u-01233-00335649-00335825 done in the competitive world these are L-9n_hS8t7u-01234-00335826-00336063 in the corporate world all the time so L-9n_hS8t7u-01235-00336064-00336254 competitive tested we don't we don't L-9n_hS8t7u-01236-00336255-00336452 compete in the nonprofit world so we L-9n_hS8t7u-01237-00336453-00336881 don't do that but if it's if it's there L-9n_hS8t7u-01238-00336882-00337109 is I mean it certainly is polite to tell L-9n_hS8t7u-01239-00337110-00337370 people you're doing it but there's I L-9n_hS8t7u-01240-00337371-00337925 mean it's public go go for it you have L-9n_hS8t7u-01241-00337926-00338273 to do paper prototyping so literally L-9n_hS8t7u-01242-00338274-00338616 creating a mock-up in paper of what you L-9n_hS8t7u-01243-00338617-00338777 are thinking you can see here and if L-9n_hS8t7u-01244-00338778-00339047 there is an interface which is designed L-9n_hS8t7u-01245-00339048-00339176 and paper this is actually fairly L-9n_hS8t7u-01246-00339177-00339650 complicated interface and ask people to L-9n_hS8t7u-01247-00339651-00339932 like I will I've done this before where L-9n_hS8t7u-01248-00339933-00340116 I tell them you know are giving you this L-9n_hS8t7u-01249-00340117-00340409 magical clicking stick which is like a L-9n_hS8t7u-01250-00340410-00340812 pen and you know tell them you know like L-9n_hS8t7u-01251-00340813-00341092 basically you just people tend to be L-9n_hS8t7u-01252-00341093-00341405 they they think it's fun it's silly and L-9n_hS8t7u-01253-00341406-00341606 you actually get a lot of good feedback L-9n_hS8t7u-01254-00341607-00341933 because it's so obviously not final that L-9n_hS8t7u-01255-00341934-00342292 people are willing to give you feedback L-9n_hS8t7u-01256-00342293-00342638 obviously you can test your own system L-9n_hS8t7u-01257-00342639-00343091 so if you are improving an element of it L-9n_hS8t7u-01258-00343092-00343394 so test before you plan to refine it to L-9n_hS8t7u-01259-00343395-00343590 see if there are additional things you L-9n_hS8t7u-01260-00343591-00343978 can add in or test as you build to L-9n_hS8t7u-01261-00343979-00344507 validate that people respond to you L-9n_hS8t7u-01262-00344508-00344867 second respond codified sessions are an L-9n_hS8t7u-01263-00344868-00345122 interesting thing they're kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-01264-00345123-00345381 relatively new to the world of L-9n_hS8t7u-01265-00345382-00345756 of us they're kind of a combination of a L-9n_hS8t7u-01266-00345757-00345972 focus group a design session and the L-9n_hS8t7u-01267-00345973-00346215 user fast I mean actually I was going to L-9n_hS8t7u-01268-00346216-00346482 ask Dan to give his perspective on it L-9n_hS8t7u-01269-00346483-00346665 he's a lot more experienced than I and L-9n_hS8t7u-01270-00346666-00346824 because we're ready to turn on time I'm L-9n_hS8t7u-01271-00346825-00346980 just going to hand it over to Dan yeah I L-9n_hS8t7u-01272-00346981-00347234 can a little about what our co.design L-9n_hS8t7u-01273-00347235-00347688 session is I'm sure yep it can take so L-9n_hS8t7u-01274-00347689-00347909 many different forms really but the way L-9n_hS8t7u-01275-00347910-00348117 that we try to deploy it at the new law L-9n_hS8t7u-01276-00348118-00348513 lab is through sort of convening core L-9n_hS8t7u-01277-00348514-00348777 groups of co-designers stakeholders over L-9n_hS8t7u-01278-00348778-00349017 the course of the lifeline of the entire L-9n_hS8t7u-01279-00349018-00349227 project so that you start with those L-9n_hS8t7u-01280-00349228-00349431 folks when the idea ideation and L-9n_hS8t7u-01281-00349432-00349641 prototyping and the testing and you're L-9n_hS8t7u-01282-00349642-00349962 doing that and regular intervals which L-9n_hS8t7u-01283-00349963-00350295 is going to not just create the you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01284-00350296-00350625 iterate the actual details of the L-9n_hS8t7u-01285-00350626-00350859 product specifications but now it can L-9n_hS8t7u-01286-00350860-00351024 also help transform stakeholders into L-9n_hS8t7u-01287-00351025-00351267 co-creators who aren't just there with L-9n_hS8t7u-01288-00351268-00351483 buy-in but are also have a sort of pride L-9n_hS8t7u-01289-00351484-00351699 of co-authorship and that goes a really L-9n_hS8t7u-01290-00351700-00351939 long way with some with marketing and L-9n_hS8t7u-01291-00351940-00352149 getting your tool out there so co.design L-9n_hS8t7u-01292-00352150-00352293 I need we know at the bottom it really L-9n_hS8t7u-01293-00352294-00352458 is working directly with the intended L-9n_hS8t7u-01294-00352459-00352709 end user in a collaborative way to L-9n_hS8t7u-01295-00352710-00353025 design the product or service itself and L-9n_hS8t7u-01296-00353026-00353277 again we we deploy it in a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01297-00353278-00353406 different ways in a lot but a lot a L-9n_hS8t7u-01298-00353407-00353735 variety as well the way we did it in L-9n_hS8t7u-01299-00353736-00353889 Connecticut was the game was you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01300-00353890-00354126 through like I said convening L-9n_hS8t7u-01301-00354127-00354357 stakeholders having a game design L-9n_hS8t7u-01302-00354358-00354651 workshop that was a lot of fun and then L-9n_hS8t7u-01303-00354652-00354963 reconvening those folks to test to the L-9n_hS8t7u-01304-00354964-00355320 actual first iteration the first beta of L-9n_hS8t7u-01305-00355321-00355548 the digital game and then reconvening L-9n_hS8t7u-01306-00355549-00355755 again when we've got another grant to do L-9n_hS8t7u-01307-00355756-00355881 another game that was focused on L-9n_hS8t7u-01308-00355882-00356121 eviction and that sort of created sort L-9n_hS8t7u-01309-00356122-00356349 of this you know game design studio if L-9n_hS8t7u-01310-00356350-00356682 you will down in Connecticut yeah yeah L-9n_hS8t7u-01311-00356683-00356856 so they're kind of if you envision them L-9n_hS8t7u-01312-00356857-00357201 as a combination of focus group design L-9n_hS8t7u-01313-00357202-00357369 sessions and user testing L-9n_hS8t7u-01314-00357370-00357599 so you're basically creating and testing L-9n_hS8t7u-01315-00357600-00358020 almost in one you're getting some I L-9n_hS8t7u-01316-00358021-00358195 would say that you're not getting L-9n_hS8t7u-01317-00358196-00358830 much initial kind of feedback as you L-9n_hS8t7u-01318-00358831-00359016 would get from doing all of those L-9n_hS8t7u-01319-00359017-00359398 separately but what you lose in the L-9n_hS8t7u-01320-00359399-00359701 potential of getting a ton of input for L-9n_hS8t7u-01321-00359702-00360079 like a design team to think cost you are L-9n_hS8t7u-01322-00360080-00360429 potentially gaining in buy-in from your L-9n_hS8t7u-01323-00360430-00360526 stakeholders L-9n_hS8t7u-01324-00360527-00360868 so as Dan said I think it's a L-9n_hS8t7u-01325-00360869-00361312 particularly powerful method for showing L-9n_hS8t7u-01326-00361313-00361627 people kind of getting people to listen L-9n_hS8t7u-01327-00361628-00361902 to each other and to like to have L-9n_hS8t7u-01328-00361903-00362194 lawyers in the same room as you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01329-00362195-00362416 suffering is represented litigants and - L-9n_hS8t7u-01330-00362417-00362684 for them to understand each other and L-9n_hS8t7u-01331-00362685-00362973 thinking sure has all this stuff now L-9n_hS8t7u-01332-00362974-00363199 absolutely no Gilmore from down in Jin L-9n_hS8t7u-01333-00363200-00363502 just a second as he talks about how he's L-9n_hS8t7u-01334-00363503-00363889 used this perfect project alright so L-9n_hS8t7u-01335-00363890-00364237 that is our look at a bunch of L-9n_hS8t7u-01336-00364238-00364651 techniques questions or thoughts about L-9n_hS8t7u-01337-00364652-00364846 any of those techniques before we dive L-9n_hS8t7u-01338-00364847-00365310 into some key studies starting with Ohio L-9n_hS8t7u-01339-00365311-00366360 legal help guys are not not quite L-9n_hS8t7u-01340-00366361-00366739 participating in my my Avera my user L-9n_hS8t7u-01341-00366740-00366976 feedback on this webinar I hope that L-9n_hS8t7u-01342-00366977-00367434 it's a useful one player fantastic um L-9n_hS8t7u-01343-00367435-00367675 Rachel I take it away I do want you L-9n_hS8t7u-01344-00367676-00367833 after you told the screen or if you want L-9n_hS8t7u-01345-00367834-00368178 so I need to do this I see um if you L-9n_hS8t7u-01346-00368179-00368334 could just give do them for me I feel L-9n_hS8t7u-01347-00368335-00368521 like we've worked together you know you L-9n_hS8t7u-01348-00368522-00369105 can get in there but okay yeah so as I L-9n_hS8t7u-01349-00369106-00369439 previously mentioned I work assistance L-9n_hS8t7u-01350-00369440-00369694 foundation yes that's perfect you can L-9n_hS8t7u-01351-00369695-00370216 yes and we are working on Ohio legal L-9n_hS8t7u-01352-00370217-00370455 help which is our statewide portal L-9n_hS8t7u-01353-00370456-00370731 project and we have spent about the past L-9n_hS8t7u-01354-00370732-00371125 year doing a research stakeholder L-9n_hS8t7u-01355-00371126-00371419 engagement and gathering data on our L-9n_hS8t7u-01356-00371420-00371531 users and L-9n_hS8t7u-01357-00371532-00371882 design work and we are starting to L-9n_hS8t7u-01358-00371883-00372179 actually get into building the website L-9n_hS8t7u-01359-00372180-00372533 and implementation the summer and right L-9n_hS8t7u-01360-00372534-00372764 on schedule to have the full launch on L-9n_hS8t7u-01361-00372765-00373229 in summer 2019 so I'm going to go over a L-9n_hS8t7u-01362-00373230-00373526 couple of steps that we took in our user L-9n_hS8t7u-01363-00373527-00373943 research and to kind of get to where we L-9n_hS8t7u-01364-00373944-00374246 are now so we started out with a series L-9n_hS8t7u-01365-00374247-00374525 of surveys and the first survey we did 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L-9n_hS8t7u-01379-00377988-00378434 usable results when we moved on to do L-9n_hS8t7u-01380-00378435-00378769 the voice of consumer survey and the L-9n_hS8t7u-01381-00378770-00379028 recruitment of participants became much L-9n_hS8t7u-01382-00379029-00379397 more challenging and so what we ended up L-9n_hS8t7u-01383-00379398-00379670 with was 800 respondents about 90 L-9n_hS8t7u-01384-00379671-00379954 percent of those we reached through a L-9n_hS8t7u-01385-00379955-00380255 survey service called Qualtrics so these L-9n_hS8t7u-01386-00380256-00380639 were not folks that we were able to you L-9n_hS8t7u-01387-00380640-00380894 know go to legal aid clinics and get 800 L-9n_hS8t7u-01388-00380895-00381143 people to respond that was done you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01389-00381144-00381299 a method that we tried and pretty L-9n_hS8t7u-01390-00381300-00381428 quickly realized it's not going to be L-9n_hS8t7u-01391-00381429-00381626 feasible for the number of responses we L-9n_hS8t7u-01392-00381627-00381950 were looking for it and so that is a L-9n_hS8t7u-01393-00381951-00382109 cost consideration to take into account L-9n_hS8t7u-01394-00382110-00382295 when you were looking at the you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01395-00382296-00382634 that number of respondents and we were L-9n_hS8t7u-01396-00382635-00382973 able to give some parameters for those L-9n_hS8t7u-01397-00382974-00383303 responses however because we were going L-9n_hS8t7u-01398-00383304-00383603 with a commercial survey company it was L-9n_hS8t7u-01399-00383604-00383899 again much harder to get very low income L-9n_hS8t7u-01400-00383900-00384110 respondents so we were able to focus in L-9n_hS8t7u-01401-00384111-00384263 on at least half of the response that L-9n_hS8t7u-01402-00384264-00384707 respondents made less than $30,000 a L-9n_hS8t7u-01403-00384708-00384850 year L-9n_hS8t7u-01404-00384851-00385184 which was a you know obviously much L-9n_hS8t7u-01405-00385185-00385493 higher than the legal aid income limit L-9n_hS8t7u-01406-00385494-00385660 so again as Laura mentioned not L-9n_hS8t7u-01407-00385661-00385880 necessarily our ideal tadka target L-9n_hS8t7u-01408-00385881-00386000 audience L-9n_hS8t7u-01409-00386001-00386275 we did get some very useful information L-9n_hS8t7u-01410-00386276-00386615 from them in terms of clarifying L-9n_hS8t7u-01411-00386616-00387023 people's main concerns about you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01412-00387024-00387233 engaging with an attorney or engaging L-9n_hS8t7u-01413-00387234-00387377 with the court system as a self L-9n_hS8t7u-01414-00387378-00387608 represented litigants folks reported L-9n_hS8t7u-01415-00387609-00387866 that cost a confusion about the legal L-9n_hS8t7u-01416-00387867-00388091 system or by far their biggest accesses L-9n_hS8t7u-01417-00388092-00388409 as those hurdles to justice and also L-9n_hS8t7u-01418-00388410-00388817 helps us identify a couple of strategies L-9n_hS8t7u-01419-00388818-00389228 to think about when we were doing our L-9n_hS8t7u-01420-00389229-00389489 design so we wanted to make sure that L-9n_hS8t7u-01421-00389490-00389714 our website is going to be direct and L-9n_hS8t7u-01422-00389715-00390155 simple and we want to emphasize and you L-9n_hS8t7u-01423-00390156-00390359 know if there are cost-saving L-9n_hS8t7u-01424-00390360-00390494 opportunities we're going to be L-9n_hS8t7u-01425-00390495-00390712 transparent with people about potential L-9n_hS8t7u-01426-00390713-00390995 costs of you know engaging in the court L-9n_hS8t7u-01427-00390996-00391159 system we're hiring an attorney and we L-9n_hS8t7u-01428-00391160-00391442 also want to make sure people feel L-9n_hS8t7u-01429-00391443-00391670 secure using our website that was a big L-9n_hS8t7u-01430-00391671-00391829 takeaway we got from the with the L-9n_hS8t7u-01431-00391830-00392252 consumer survey people indicating unease L-9n_hS8t7u-01432-00392253-00392408 with giving a whole lot of personal L-9n_hS8t7u-01433-00392409-00392675 information in order to get self L-9n_hS8t7u-01434-00392676-00393053 represented resources so Laura if you L-9n_hS8t7u-01435-00393054-00393419 want to move on to the next slide from L-9n_hS8t7u-01436-00393420-00394060 there we took kind of a step back to L-9n_hS8t7u-01437-00394061-00394241 looking at some more national research L-9n_hS8t7u-01438-00394242-00394667 on which again Laura mentioned she did a L-9n_hS8t7u-01439-00394668-00394865 great literature review and put together L-9n_hS8t7u-01440-00394866-00395165 a very large diagram that is our mental L-9n_hS8t7u-01441-00395166-00395558 model that captured about five I think L-9n_hS8t7u-01442-00395559-00395791 it was five academic studies and L-9n_hS8t7u-01443-00395792-00396088 included in the studies were about L-9n_hS8t7u-01444-00396089-00396530 250-300 qualitative interviews so our L-9n_hS8t7u-01445-00396531-00396704 final product mapped out the thought L-9n_hS8t7u-01446-00396705-00396899 process of a person with a legal issue L-9n_hS8t7u-01447-00396900-00397124 through various stages of resolving that L-9n_hS8t7u-01448-00397125-00397307 issue that was one great thing about L-9n_hS8t7u-01449-00397308-00397580 using the different studies some of them L-9n_hS8t7u-01450-00397581-00397751 focused on different elements of that L-9n_hS8t7u-01451-00397752-00398012 process so for example the screen shot L-9n_hS8t7u-01452-00398013-00398131 that I have here in that war L-9n_hS8t7u-01453-00398132-00398350 showing you earlier it's all about L-9n_hS8t7u-01454-00398351-00398629 online research so for that section we L-9n_hS8t7u-01455-00398630-00398843 focusing on three papers that really L-9n_hS8t7u-01456-00398844-00399103 honed in on the online research aspect L-9n_hS8t7u-01457-00399104-00399334 versus you know interaction with court L-9n_hS8t7u-01458-00399335-00399607 staff or some other areas that were also L-9n_hS8t7u-01459-00399608-00400112 very useful to us but you know we were L-9n_hS8t7u-01460-00400113-00400315 able to really capture the specific L-9n_hS8t7u-01461-00400316-00400648 finding in each part of the journey if L-9n_hS8t7u-01462-00400649-00401050 that makes sense and from here we use it L-9n_hS8t7u-01463-00401051-00401323 to develop our user testing strategy and L-9n_hS8t7u-01464-00401324-00401719 so one of the key findings from the L-9n_hS8t7u-01465-00401720-00402034 mental model has to do with making sure L-9n_hS8t7u-01466-00402035-00402226 that your website is credible because L-9n_hS8t7u-01467-00402227-00402443 people evaluate online resources very L-9n_hS8t7u-01468-00402444-00402871 quickly and so we wanted to kind of get L-9n_hS8t7u-01469-00402872-00403401 people perceptions on um is the current L-9n_hS8t7u-01470-00403402-00403718 you know that competitor and Loras I L-9n_hS8t7u-01471-00403719-00403885 could we don't compete but you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01472-00403886-00404101 similar resources that already exist are L-9n_hS8t7u-01473-00404102-00404296 you know are up here incredible if L-9n_hS8t7u-01474-00404297-00404572 people look at them and see an L-9n_hS8t7u-01475-00404573-00404719 authoritative resource or if they just L-9n_hS8t7u-01476-00404720-00404993 see something that I was giving some L-9n_hS8t7u-01477-00404994-00405130 conflicting information making them more L-9n_hS8t7u-01478-00405131-00405488 confused and then a kind of final point L-9n_hS8t7u-01479-00405489-00405689 on the mental model was that um we've L-9n_hS8t7u-01480-00405690-00405992 also since the user testing have been L-9n_hS8t7u-01481-00405993-00406189 able to share it with a couple of L-9n_hS8t7u-01482-00406190-00406418 audiences including our steering L-9n_hS8t7u-01483-00406419-00406612 committee which is made up of a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01484-00406613-00406885 attorneys and judges and people who are L-9n_hS8t7u-01485-00406886-00407098 in the legal world but maybe don't L-9n_hS8t7u-01486-00407099-00407489 interact with people who are low-income L-9n_hS8t7u-01487-00407490-00407698 and dealing with legal issues or health L-9n_hS8t7u-01488-00407699-00407888 represented litigants on a day to day L-9n_hS8t7u-01489-00407889-00408106 basis and I think it was very helpful L-9n_hS8t7u-01490-00408107-00408514 for them to be able to see this L-9n_hS8t7u-01491-00408515-00408694 representation of the entire process L-9n_hS8t7u-01492-00408695-00408989 with no specific concerns and the L-9n_hS8t7u-01493-00408990-00409166 specific types of thoughts that people L-9n_hS8t7u-01494-00409167-00409393 have when they're navigating this as a L-9n_hS8t7u-01495-00409394-00409837 non-lawyer doesn't have any questions on L-9n_hS8t7u-01496-00409838-00410095 anything I've gone through at this point L-9n_hS8t7u-01497-00410096-00410545 all right moving on thanks Laura so for L-9n_hS8t7u-01498-00410546-00410872 our user testing we conducted 23 user L-9n_hS8t7u-01499-00410873-00411141 tests of individuals in five different L-9n_hS8t7u-01500-00411142-00411380 locations across Ohio L-9n_hS8t7u-01501-00411381-00411809 we were very mindful in choosing sites L-9n_hS8t7u-01502-00411810-00412201 that were in some urban areas some Earl L-9n_hS8t7u-01503-00412202-00412609 and some suburban locations we tested L-9n_hS8t7u-01504-00412610-00412989 four websites that are similar to our L-9n_hS8t7u-01505-00412990-00413426 you know desired end product we estimate L-9n_hS8t7u-01506-00413427-00413603 that almost all of our test subjects L-9n_hS8t7u-01507-00413604-00413801 were at 300 percent of poverty poverty L-9n_hS8t7u-01508-00413802-00414062 or below we did not ask them their L-9n_hS8t7u-01509-00414063-00414307 income but based on the sites where we L-9n_hS8t7u-01510-00414308-00414434 were testing which as I previously L-9n_hS8t7u-01511-00414435-00414655 mentioned were Community Action agencies L-9n_hS8t7u-01512-00414656-00415034 which help folks apply for benefits the L-9n_hS8t7u-01513-00415035-00415414 highest income that could receive any L-9n_hS8t7u-01514-00415415-00415628 type of benefit and that those agencies L-9n_hS8t7u-01515-00415629-00415822 assist with was 300 percent of poverty L-9n_hS8t7u-01516-00415823-00416030 so that's how we've kind of made that L-9n_hS8t7u-01517-00416031-00416768 estimate and another note is that we L-9n_hS8t7u-01518-00416768-00417055 only received three male testers out of L-9n_hS8t7u-01519-00417056-00417428 twenty three we are not sure you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01520-00417429-00417755 how that that demographic skewing L-9n_hS8t7u-01521-00417756-00418112 happened and you know we were happy to L-9n_hS8t7u-01522-00418113-00418309 honestly get 23 tests that was a great L-9n_hS8t7u-01523-00418310-00418595 outcome um but we did make sure to note L-9n_hS8t7u-01524-00418596-00418751 that and we're writing up our findings L-9n_hS8t7u-01525-00418752-00418891 that they might not totally L-9n_hS8t7u-01526-00418892-00419195 representative of our entire target L-9n_hS8t7u-01527-00419196-00419630 audience and also just the final note we L-9n_hS8t7u-01528-00419631-00419870 were primarily testing to evaluate the L-9n_hS8t7u-01529-00419871-00420095 navigation and kind of the high level L-9n_hS8t7u-01530-00420096-00420350 design of the web sites we weren't you L-9n_hS8t7u-01531-00420351-00420539 know trying to evaluate content or L-9n_hS8t7u-01532-00420539-00420860 looking to feel necessarily we really L-9n_hS8t7u-01533-00420860-00421208 tried to focus our questions on the L-9n_hS8t7u-01534-00421209-00421403 specific need that we currently have and L-9n_hS8t7u-01535-00421404-00421718 then as we build and it was getting past L-9n_hS8t7u-01536-00421718-00421874 our high level device we will go back L-9n_hS8t7u-01537-00421875-00422012 and do more user testing that will be L-9n_hS8t7u-01538-00422013-00422212 more specifically focused on things like L-9n_hS8t7u-01539-00422213-00422483 content or you know the visual design L-9n_hS8t7u-01540-00422484-00422705 things like that we did not try to do it L-9n_hS8t7u-01541-00422706-00422984 all at once which i think is you know a L-9n_hS8t7u-01542-00422985-00423616 best practice but you should follow and L-9n_hS8t7u-01543-00423617-00424030 now looking at our logistics um we L-9n_hS8t7u-01544-00424031-00424247 tested in a team of two what my L-9n_hS8t7u-01545-00424247-00424478 colleague and I we visited L-9n_hS8t7u-01546-00424479-00424700 testing place and we did that in a work L-9n_hS8t7u-01547-00424701-00424970 week and I don't necessarily recommend L-9n_hS8t7u-01548-00424971-00425234 that if you can avoid it it was a little L-9n_hS8t7u-01549-00425235-00425689 exhausting but it can be done you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01550-00425691-00425882 if you have to I think that we've all L-9n_hS8t7u-01551-00425883-00426259 been there and we tested at sites with L-9n_hS8t7u-01552-00426260-00426500 walk-in services and high volumes of L-9n_hS8t7u-01553-00426501-00426827 clients in our target demographic which L-9n_hS8t7u-01554-00426828-00427166 was low-income Ohioans who arrived at L-9n_hS8t7u-01555-00427167-00427564 those locations expecting to wait and L-9n_hS8t7u-01556-00427564-00427841 because they were already expecting to L-9n_hS8t7u-01557-00427842-00428033 have a weight most folks didn't really L-9n_hS8t7u-01558-00428034-00428216 seem to be in a rush on at least the L-9n_hS8t7u-01559-00428217-00428539 folks who agreed to do the user tests L-9n_hS8t7u-01560-00428541-00428945 for us and that I think was very helpful L-9n_hS8t7u-01561-00428946-00429155 in terms of a recruitment you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01562-00429156-00429350 purposely going to a place where people L-9n_hS8t7u-01563-00429351-00429517 are expecting to spend time and also L-9n_hS8t7u-01564-00429518-00429845 acknowledging that they would not lose L-9n_hS8t7u-01565-00429846-00430016 their place in line for services was L-9n_hS8t7u-01566-00430017-00430271 also very important we offer folks $10 L-9n_hS8t7u-01567-00430272-00430574 gift cards and to participate which L-9n_hS8t7u-01568-00430575-00430909 seemed to be a good amount we were at L-9n_hS8t7u-01569-00430910-00431110 two sites where staff members L-9n_hS8t7u-01570-00431112-00431260 prearranged some appointments but as L-9n_hS8t7u-01571-00431262-00431420 Laura mentioned we did have a fair L-9n_hS8t7u-01572-00431421-00431738 number of no-shows and the majority of L-9n_hS8t7u-01573-00431739-00431966 our participants were recruited on the L-9n_hS8t7u-01574-00431967-00432401 spot by staff we use two laptops and we L-9n_hS8t7u-01575-00432402-00432731 recorded our interviews both audio and L-9n_hS8t7u-01576-00432732-00433013 then had a screen capture we have a L-9n_hS8t7u-01577-00433014-00433241 capability to run two tests at once but L-9n_hS8t7u-01578-00433242-00433534 we pretty quickly realized that it was L-9n_hS8t7u-01579-00433535-00433877 more helpful to have one person kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-01580-00433878-00434045 drive and leave the text and have L-9n_hS8t7u-01581-00434046-00434372 another person taking notes that way not L-9n_hS8t7u-01582-00434372-00434584 only could we compare our impressions of L-9n_hS8t7u-01583-00434585-00434839 the users experience but we could also L-9n_hS8t7u-01584-00434841-00435104 you know focus on good note-taking and L-9n_hS8t7u-01585-00435105-00435278 get facilitation and not try to do two L-9n_hS8t7u-01586-00435279-00435674 things at once and so just kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-01587-00435675-00435875 quickly wrapping up with some takeaways L-9n_hS8t7u-01588-00435876-00436478 and the when we did the gift cards we L-9n_hS8t7u-01589-00436479-00436685 thought to ourselves oh we should make L-9n_hS8t7u-01590-00436685-00436895 sure we have a lot of options so we have L-9n_hS8t7u-01591-00436896-00437282 grocery stores and you know donuts or L-9n_hS8t7u-01592-00437283-00437459 ice cream you know we want to honestly L-9n_hS8t7u-01593-00437460-00437668 we had a little bit of personal akina's L-9n_hS8t7u-01594-00437670-00437756 about L-9n_hS8t7u-01595-00437757-00437981 getting a bunch of money to Walmart it L-9n_hS8t7u-01596-00437982-00438299 turns out that that was a barrier to us L-9n_hS8t7u-01597-00438300-00438660 people want a Ballmer gift card and I L-9n_hS8t7u-01598-00438660-00438870 think from that I've we kind of learned L-9n_hS8t7u-01599-00438871-00439224 not to be so uh you know squeamish about L-9n_hS8t7u-01600-00439225-00439500 it and also realizing that when we asked L-9n_hS8t7u-01601-00439501-00439697 some of the staff members at the sites L-9n_hS8t7u-01602-00439698-00439895 about local grocery stores they would L-9n_hS8t7u-01603-00439896-00440168 give us stores that were accessible to L-9n_hS8t7u-01604-00440169-00440345 them but we're not accessible to their L-9n_hS8t7u-01605-00440346-00440562 client base based on transportation L-9n_hS8t7u-01606-00440563-00440843 especially so we would be told you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01607-00440844-00441126 oh we have X grocery store in Cleveland L-9n_hS8t7u-01608-00441127-00441345 but expiratory store is actually only in L-9n_hS8t7u-01609-00441346-00441516 the suburbs of Cleveland and it's L-9n_hS8t7u-01610-00441517-00441710 totally useless to people who live in L-9n_hS8t7u-01611-00441711-00442056 inner-city Cleveland as I mentioned L-9n_hS8t7u-01612-00442057-00442233 earlier we enlisted staff to help us L-9n_hS8t7u-01613-00442234-00442368 with recruitment which was very helpful L-9n_hS8t7u-01614-00442368-00442670 I also mentioned this earlier that I'm L-9n_hS8t7u-01615-00442671-00443091 having a warm opening line was very L-9n_hS8t7u-01616-00443092-00443424 helpful thinking about things like where L-9n_hS8t7u-01617-00443425-00443741 you're from that's maybe not so laden L-9n_hS8t7u-01618-00443742-00443972 with like a power dynamic is something I L-9n_hS8t7u-01619-00443973-00444145 would recommend L-9n_hS8t7u-01620-00444146-00444362 each one of us we had two different L-9n_hS8t7u-01621-00444363-00444528 scenarios we were testing so my L-9n_hS8t7u-01622-00444529-00444791 colleague and I both only tested one L-9n_hS8t7u-01623-00444792-00445122 scenario so like I had scenario a every L-9n_hS8t7u-01624-00445122-00445326 time I was the test I was leading the L-9n_hS8t7u-01625-00445327-00445608 test and that was also very helpful when L-9n_hS8t7u-01626-00445609-00445902 we were trying to document and think L-9n_hS8t7u-01627-00445903-00446106 about oh no I remember this person says L-9n_hS8t7u-01628-00446107-00446322 I know that I must have been on this day L-9n_hS8t7u-01629-00446322-00446658 because I was you know we were in X room L-9n_hS8t7u-01630-00446659-00446793 and I was running this test so I know it L-9n_hS8t7u-01631-00446793-00446979 was the scenario and that was very L-9n_hS8t7u-01632-00446980-00447245 helpful as well as Laura mentioned L-9n_hS8t7u-01633-00447246-00447485 record your notes right away because you L-9n_hS8t7u-01634-00447486-00447691 will forget things you'll look at your L-9n_hS8t7u-01635-00447692-00447891 handwritten notes and it won't mean L-9n_hS8t7u-01636-00447892-00448229 anything the second the last point I L-9n_hS8t7u-01637-00448230-00448460 have is watch yourself so especially L-9n_hS8t7u-01638-00448461-00448804 when you're thinking about legal issues L-9n_hS8t7u-01639-00448805-00449141 on one hand I think I was a little lucky L-9n_hS8t7u-01640-00449142-00449420 in that I'm not an attorney so I did not L-9n_hS8t7u-01641-00449421-00449781 necessarily feel as much as a vent and L-9n_hS8t7u-01642-00449782-00450110 help to correct folks when they may be L-9n_hS8t7u-01643-00450111-00450293 found the wrong information to solve L-9n_hS8t7u-01644-00450294-00450533 their hypothetical legal problem my L-9n_hS8t7u-01645-00450534-00450662 colleagues an attorney and I think L-9n_hS8t7u-01646-00450663-00450783 there's a little bit harder for her to L-9n_hS8t7u-01647-00450784-00451077 not um kind of step in and L-9n_hS8t7u-01648-00451078-00451235 correct and interfere with the test a L-9n_hS8t7u-01649-00451236-00451487 little bit so just keep that in mind to L-9n_hS8t7u-01650-00451488-00451772 watch kind of your impulses and devices L-9n_hS8t7u-01651-00451773-00452027 that you might have going in and then L-9n_hS8t7u-01652-00452028-00452354 finally just kind of a self fair note to L-9n_hS8t7u-01653-00452355-00452487 give yourself a break L-9n_hS8t7u-01654-00452488-00452858 so we went five days straight and needed L-9n_hS8t7u-01655-00452859-00453177 23 user tests of that average you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01656-00453178-00453552 about five a day and we would do those L-9n_hS8t7u-01657-00453553-00453839 five just right in a row and mostly L-9n_hS8t7u-01658-00453840-00454020 because we didn't want to burden our L-9n_hS8t7u-01659-00454021-00454331 test sites with oh well we need people L-9n_hS8t7u-01660-00454332-00454595 but we don't need people you know we L-9n_hS8t7u-01661-00454596-00454710 need a break you know we don't want to L-9n_hS8t7u-01662-00454710-00454977 do that to the staff but in retrospect L-9n_hS8t7u-01663-00454978-00455279 and if we had had a little more mindful L-9n_hS8t7u-01664-00455280-00455468 scheduling it probably would have been a L-9n_hS8t7u-01665-00455469-00455681 little bit fresher and maybe done a L-9n_hS8t7u-01666-00455682-00455862 better job for some of those later user L-9n_hS8t7u-01667-00455863-00456233 tests because it is as we're mentioned L-9n_hS8t7u-01668-00456234-00456422 it's not incredibly difficult but it is L-9n_hS8t7u-01669-00456423-00456822 a bit draining to be on for a few hours L-9n_hS8t7u-01670-00456822-00457233 straight so yeah that is kind of my L-9n_hS8t7u-01671-00457234-00457533 experience and implementing a user test L-9n_hS8t7u-01672-00457534-00457835 as a non user testing expert does anyone L-9n_hS8t7u-01673-00457836-00458006 have any questions before I hand it over L-9n_hS8t7u-01674-00458007-00458712 the dam just to mention so both Rachel L-9n_hS8t7u-01675-00458713-00458997 and Dan's case studies I've picked not L-9n_hS8t7u-01676-00458997-00459216 necessarily because they are small this L-9n_hS8t7u-01677-00459217-00459393 is not what I would call a small shoots L-9n_hS8t7u-01678-00459393-00459668 for user tests which is more like four L-9n_hS8t7u-01679-00459669-00459831 or five users as I mentioned but because L-9n_hS8t7u-01680-00459832-00459983 I think they're super applicable and all L-9n_hS8t7u-01681-00459984-00460181 of the things will still apply the same L-9n_hS8t7u-01682-00460182-00460943 is true dam praise I will turn it over L-9n_hS8t7u-01683-00460944-00461291 today I'm in a all right um I'll just L-9n_hS8t7u-01684-00461292-00461541 talk for a couple of minutes about paper L-9n_hS8t7u-01685-00461542-00461745 prototyping and in particular show you L-9n_hS8t7u-01686-00461746-00462008 some examples of truly on a shoestring L-9n_hS8t7u-01687-00462009-00462225 very much how much of a shoestring it L-9n_hS8t7u-01688-00462226-00462435 can be you can go ahead the next slide L-9n_hS8t7u-01689-00462435-00462472 please L-9n_hS8t7u-01690-00462473-00462822 we are drive drawing these photographs L-9n_hS8t7u-01691-00462822-00463095 in these examples from a project we have L-9n_hS8t7u-01692-00463096-00463251 where we're partnered risk isles L-9n_hS8t7u-01693-00463252-00463368 institute for the advancement in the L-9n_hS8t7u-01694-00463368-00463535 American legal system and Stanford's L-9n_hS8t7u-01695-00463536-00463797 legal design lab on a project called L-9n_hS8t7u-01696-00463797-00463991 court compass which is an a multi-state L-9n_hS8t7u-01697-00463992-00464189 effort to simplify and streamline L-9n_hS8t7u-01698-00464189-00464431 uncontested divorce so far we L-9n_hS8t7u-01699-00464432-00464596 been working in Massachusetts in Iowa L-9n_hS8t7u-01700-00464597-00464812 this project is actually a follow-on L-9n_hS8t7u-01701-00464813-00465093 to the cases without counsel study that L-9n_hS8t7u-01702-00465095-00465256 Laura mentioned earlier in that L-9n_hS8t7u-01703-00465257-00465547 presentation and so we have been going L-9n_hS8t7u-01704-00465547-00465760 around but at least in Massachusetts and L-9n_hS8t7u-01705-00465760-00465901 Iowa convening a diverse group of L-9n_hS8t7u-01706-00465902-00466393 stakeholders EIN workshops where we are L-9n_hS8t7u-01707-00466393-00466588 it is a good example of a co.design L-9n_hS8t7u-01708-00466589-00466780 approach where you go from very L-9n_hS8t7u-01709-00466781-00466897 beginning to the end of the design L-9n_hS8t7u-01710-00466897-00467242 process in just one day with folks paper L-9n_hS8t7u-01711-00467243-00467410 prototypes are a key aspect of the L-9n_hS8t7u-01712-00467410-00467617 workshop that we've been doing and L-9n_hS8t7u-01713-00467618-00467805 basically the table teams that we have L-9n_hS8t7u-01714-00467806-00468049 are able to then test their ideas of L-9n_hS8t7u-01715-00468050-00468283 other tables by having folks interact L-9n_hS8t7u-01716-00468284-00468457 with these paper prototypes so go to the L-9n_hS8t7u-01717-00468458-00468580 next slide I'll show you an example of L-9n_hS8t7u-01718-00468581-00468853 one this is a mobile app paper prototype L-9n_hS8t7u-01719-00468854-00469102 right they the folks at one table just L-9n_hS8t7u-01720-00469103-00469246 sort of took some paper and ripped it up L-9n_hS8t7u-01721-00469247-00469537 into basically handheld phone sized L-9n_hS8t7u-01722-00469538-00469872 stacks of paper and then they detailed L-9n_hS8t7u-01723-00469874-00470104 exactly what its each screen would have L-9n_hS8t7u-01724-00470105-00470289 and were able to then hand it over to L-9n_hS8t7u-01725-00470291-00470643 folks to test and flip through as if L-9n_hS8t7u-01726-00470645-00470820 they were interacting with a smartphone L-9n_hS8t7u-01727-00470821-00471049 and go to the next one please and L-9n_hS8t7u-01728-00471050-00471316 there's an example of a website Peter L-9n_hS8t7u-01729-00471317-00471517 paper prototype again the same design L-9n_hS8t7u-01730-00471518-00471709 workshop but this was done on large L-9n_hS8t7u-01731-00471710-00472177 format easel paper and using stickies L-9n_hS8t7u-01732-00472178-00472441 and post-its again people would go up to L-9n_hS8t7u-01733-00472442-00472627 this the first thing they see the first L-9n_hS8t7u-01734-00472628-00472785 time would you like it for us yes now L-9n_hS8t7u-01735-00472787-00473014 and they flip the page go on to the next L-9n_hS8t7u-01736-00473014-00473212 question go on to the next question so L-9n_hS8t7u-01737-00473213-00473404 it can be really mean you can really get L-9n_hS8t7u-01738-00473405-00473674 a lot of helpful feedback and testing L-9n_hS8t7u-01739-00473675-00473863 done very very early in the process with L-9n_hS8t7u-01740-00473864-00474043 nothing more than a marker and some L-9n_hS8t7u-01741-00474043-00474312 paper I think people sometimes if we're L-9n_hS8t7u-01742-00474313-00474526 creating digital tools you think well L-9n_hS8t7u-01743-00474527-00474685 shouldn't this shouldn't the prototype L-9n_hS8t7u-01744-00474685-00474903 be the something actually a digital L-9n_hS8t7u-01745-00474904-00475108 aspect of it that they can actually L-9n_hS8t7u-01746-00475109-00475420 interact with but now you connect people L-9n_hS8t7u-01747-00475421-00475591 are really really familiar at this point L-9n_hS8t7u-01748-00475592-00475960 with basic look and feel of our mobile L-9n_hS8t7u-01749-00475960-00476193 phones and web sites and it's really L-9n_hS8t7u-01750-00476195-00476521 easy to just sort of jump into the the L-9n_hS8t7u-01751-00476522-00476701 details of your particular design by L-9n_hS8t7u-01752-00476702-00476842 just catching it out on paper and having L-9n_hS8t7u-01753-00476843-00477052 people interact with it I will say that L-9n_hS8t7u-01754-00477053-00477184 you know as you're doing that if you're L-9n_hS8t7u-01755-00477185-00477435 doing it in a design workshop like we L-9n_hS8t7u-01756-00477437-00477620 were doing it in Iowa there L-9n_hS8t7u-01757-00477621-00477797 and you're working with non-designers as L-9n_hS8t7u-01758-00477797-00478043 your co designers you have to be really L-9n_hS8t7u-01759-00478043-00478316 really hard on them not to explain their L-9n_hS8t7u-01760-00478317-00478564 prototype you know the designer stands L-9n_hS8t7u-01761-00478566-00478772 there and wants to say no now you got to L-9n_hS8t7u-01762-00478772-00478895 do this now you got that and don't L-9n_hS8t7u-01763-00478896-00479087 forget to do this never you gotta keep L-9n_hS8t7u-01764-00479088-00479372 your mouth zipped and let the other team L-9n_hS8t7u-01765-00479372-00479483 the other group of people actually L-9n_hS8t7u-01766-00479484-00479663 interact with the paper prototype as if L-9n_hS8t7u-01767-00479664-00479810 they were encountering the digital tool L-9n_hS8t7u-01768-00479810-00480172 without the designer standing there and L-9n_hS8t7u-01769-00480174-00480418 a last thing I want to mention would be L-9n_hS8t7u-01770-00480420-00480584 remiss if I didn't this is from our game L-9n_hS8t7u-01771-00480585-00480770 represent with statewide legal services L-9n_hS8t7u-01772-00480771-00480983 of Connecticut and this was we've L-9n_hS8t7u-01773-00480984-00481393 created large format sort of examples of L-9n_hS8t7u-01774-00481395-00481574 the game the scenarios that the or the L-9n_hS8t7u-01775-00481575-00481718 scenes if you will that were available L-9n_hS8t7u-01776-00481718-00481976 for the game designers to use and then L-9n_hS8t7u-01777-00481977-00482185 just they'll cut out so the people we L-9n_hS8t7u-01778-00482187-00482468 use this to design the or to come up L-9n_hS8t7u-01779-00482468-00482647 with some scenarios for represent renter L-9n_hS8t7u-01780-00482649-00482849 which is the second of the two games we L-9n_hS8t7u-01781-00482850-00483002 brought these to our Co design sessions L-9n_hS8t7u-01782-00483003-00483191 down and kind of kitten up in Maine and L-9n_hS8t7u-01783-00483192-00483380 had people play with these as they L-9n_hS8t7u-01784-00483381-00483568 thought about what the characters might L-9n_hS8t7u-01785-00483570-00483733 do in the game and thought about how the L-9n_hS8t7u-01786-00483734-00483920 characters were to interact with each L-9n_hS8t7u-01787-00483921-00484118 other it was more of a play tool in a L-9n_hS8t7u-01788-00484118-00484334 way really been a paper prototype per se L-9n_hS8t7u-01789-00484335-00484547 because it's not a testing nuts or a L-9n_hS8t7u-01790-00484547-00484787 testing function more of a design L-9n_hS8t7u-01791-00484788-00485039 process function and it's all it's very L-9n_hS8t7u-01792-00485039-00485239 playful and kind of fun and so we got L-9n_hS8t7u-01793-00485241-00485468 those here in the lab and we use them L-9n_hS8t7u-01794-00485468-00485726 whenever we are sitting down beginning L-9n_hS8t7u-01795-00485727-00485872 the process of thinking about using that L-9n_hS8t7u-01796-00485874-00486158 platform for another purpose and I just L-9n_hS8t7u-01797-00486159-00486383 encourage people to be as creative and L-9n_hS8t7u-01798-00486384-00486605 fun and quick and down and dirty as you L-9n_hS8t7u-01799-00486606-00486758 can with paper prototyping because you L-9n_hS8t7u-01800-00486759-00487016 can just hammer all those ideas get some L-9n_hS8t7u-01801-00487017-00487205 immediate very quick feedback and then L-9n_hS8t7u-01802-00487206-00487654 give it to to wherever you want to go L-9n_hS8t7u-01803-00487655-00487892 awesome thank you so much down yeah I L-9n_hS8t7u-01804-00487893-00488684 would echo typing and thank you thanks L-9n_hS8t7u-01805-00488685-00488759 to dance L-9n_hS8t7u-01806-00488760-00489008 particularly whirlwind tour through his L-9n_hS8t7u-01807-00489009-00489368 own case I didn't know to the time there L-9n_hS8t7u-01808-00489368-00489634 yeah and I appreciate that I apologize L-9n_hS8t7u-01809-00489635-00490016 um we've got we love any questions you L-9n_hS8t7u-01810-00490017-00490205 have so you've got you know three people L-9n_hS8t7u-01811-00490206-00490432 with a fair amount of expertise here too L-9n_hS8t7u-01812-00490433-00490676 to take on kind of L-9n_hS8t7u-01813-00490677-00491093 you have thoughts you have what do you L-9n_hS8t7u-01814-00491093-00491360 what questions you have or sorry do you L-9n_hS8t7u-01815-00491360-00493496 have anything to ask the group so I will L-9n_hS8t7u-01816-00493497-00493850 I'll ask Dan and Rachel a question so L-9n_hS8t7u-01817-00493851-00494164 maybe I would say so for those folks who L-9n_hS8t7u-01818-00494166-00494375 are thinking about getting started so L-9n_hS8t7u-01819-00494376-00494654 they haven't done a lot and all of and L-9n_hS8t7u-01820-00494655-00494834 we've just presented like 19 different L-9n_hS8t7u-01821-00494835-00495116 things they could do um where would you L-9n_hS8t7u-01822-00495117-00495380 encourage them to potentially start can L-9n_hS8t7u-01823-00495381-00495653 we narrow down it you you know just a L-9n_hS8t7u-01824-00495654-00495839 finite number of things that we think L-9n_hS8t7u-01825-00495839-00496208 might be a good place to start L-9n_hS8t7u-01826-00496209-00496745 experimenting oh boy that's that's a L-9n_hS8t7u-01827-00496746-00497003 tough question for me to answer with us L-9n_hS8t7u-01828-00497004-00497312 yeah okay yeah I mean again I I hate to L-9n_hS8t7u-01829-00497313-00497572 say it sounds like a classic lawyer by L-9n_hS8t7u-01830-00497574-00497720 saying always it depends on the problem L-9n_hS8t7u-01831-00497721-00497993 you're trying to solve but I think L-9n_hS8t7u-01832-00497993-00498200 research is actually a really helpful L-9n_hS8t7u-01833-00498201-00498374 way to get started there's a lot of L-9n_hS8t7u-01834-00498375-00498566 study you know academics I'm here on a L-9n_hS8t7u-01835-00498567-00498697 university campus I can tell you L-9n_hS8t7u-01836-00498699-00498971 academic flight to write papers and and L-9n_hS8t7u-01837-00498972-00499060 they spend a fair amount of time L-9n_hS8t7u-01838-00499062-00499220 thinking about issues thinking through L-9n_hS8t7u-01839-00499221-00499457 issues that's a great way to start to L-9n_hS8t7u-01840-00499458-00499631 frame out the problem that you're hoping L-9n_hS8t7u-01841-00499632-00499964 to address and it can be as you know a L-9n_hS8t7u-01842-00499964-00500122 place where you will start to identify L-9n_hS8t7u-01843-00500124-00500306 okay well this has been done before that L-9n_hS8t7u-01844-00500307-00500435 has not been done before here's the L-9n_hS8t7u-01845-00500435-00500689 opportunity pass and that's you know L-9n_hS8t7u-01846-00500691-00500825 academic research is a good place to L-9n_hS8t7u-01847-00500826-00501026 start and no one's probably going to L-9n_hS8t7u-01848-00501027-00501188 tell you to stop you know no one's going L-9n_hS8t7u-01849-00501189-00501353 to say no those do that don't go read L-9n_hS8t7u-01850-00501354-00501632 academic well you don't to go too far L-9n_hS8t7u-01851-00501633-00501755 right you know why you're not doing a L-9n_hS8t7u-01852-00501756-00501857 lot for your article so you don't want L-9n_hS8t7u-01853-00501858-00501992 to research all the way down to the L-9n_hS8t7u-01854-00501993-00502325 magna carta back envision you can get a L-9n_hS8t7u-01855-00502326-00502468 good environmental scan of what the L-9n_hS8t7u-01856-00502470-00502745 state of the play is today of art yeah L-9n_hS8t7u-01857-00502746-00503066 yeah fine answering my own question I L-9n_hS8t7u-01858-00503067-00503387 might say go talk to anybody in your L-9n_hS8t7u-01859-00503388-00503750 target audience about anything so plan L-9n_hS8t7u-01860-00503751-00504053 out what you're going to ask them L-9n_hS8t7u-01861-00504054-00504341 and go someplace where people are and L-9n_hS8t7u-01862-00504342-00504707 sit down and talk to poor people about L-9n_hS8t7u-01863-00504708-00504938 their own experiences just cuz I feel L-9n_hS8t7u-01864-00504939-00505168 like meeting the actual people that L-9n_hS8t7u-01865-00505170-00505339 you're serving can have a really L-9n_hS8t7u-01866-00505341-00505622 powerful impact almost beyond what you L-9n_hS8t7u-01867-00505622-00506009 are actually creating yeah I would echo L-9n_hS8t7u-01868-00506010-00506372 that Laura as as someone who works in an L-9n_hS8t7u-01869-00506372-00506518 office that doesn't provide direct L-9n_hS8t7u-01870-00506520-00506845 services and that was an incredibly L-9n_hS8t7u-01871-00506846-00507083 important part of my user testing L-9n_hS8t7u-01872-00507084-00507383 experience and just the you know the few L-9n_hS8t7u-01873-00507384-00507572 brief kind of introductory questions we L-9n_hS8t7u-01874-00507572-00507778 did before we got into using the sites L-9n_hS8t7u-01875-00507779-00508253 was very not only I think technically L-9n_hS8t7u-01876-00508254-00508618 useful but also kind of grounded me and L-9n_hS8t7u-01877-00508620-00508847 you know who I'm building this for and I L-9n_hS8t7u-01878-00508847-00508964 can fit that kind of an invaluable L-9n_hS8t7u-01879-00508964-00509335 experience yeah fantastic L-9n_hS8t7u-01880-00509337-00511075 all right L-9n_hS8t7u-01881-00511076-00511693 ha so I mean how often is basically as L-9n_hS8t7u-01882-00511693-00511993 and often so you'd ideally have been L-9n_hS8t7u-01883-00511993-00512272 testing incrementally as you build it L-9n_hS8t7u-01884-00512272-00512641 and then every time you do a change to L-9n_hS8t7u-01885-00512642-00512995 it you would test it so I mean ideally I L-9n_hS8t7u-01886-00512996-00513345 mean I could do nothing but test I think L-9n_hS8t7u-01887-00513346-00513775 realistically it's a really hard L-9n_hS8t7u-01888-00513776-00513972 question because there's so little L-9n_hS8t7u-01889-00513973-00514308 that's been done I what I would like to L-9n_hS8t7u-01890-00514309-00514606 say is realistically you don't need to L-9n_hS8t7u-01891-00514607-00514791 test every little thing because you can L-9n_hS8t7u-01892-00514792-00514975 assume that your site is going to work L-9n_hS8t7u-01893-00514976-00515152 like other legal aid sites or other L-9n_hS8t7u-01894-00515153-00515518 legal help sites for most things but L-9n_hS8t7u-01895-00515518-00515722 that doesn't help you because nobody is L-9n_hS8t7u-01896-00515722-00516085 just or so few people have definite L-9n_hS8t7u-01897-00516085-00516700 anything so I would start with I mean do L-9n_hS8t7u-01898-00516701-00517066 do as much as you can so we I am in L-9n_hS8t7u-01899-00517067-00517375 charge of research for the Florida L-9n_hS8t7u-01900-00517376-00517668 justice technology Center and we are we L-9n_hS8t7u-01901-00517669-00517906 just set a goal for ourselves to do two L-9n_hS8t7u-01902-00517907-00518637 serious outreach studies for per year so L-9n_hS8t7u-01903-00518638-00518872 and I think that that is until that's L-9n_hS8t7u-01904-00518872-00519114 about 20 user tests per so you can also L-9n_hS8t7u-01905-00519115-00519183 split that up L-9n_hS8t7u-01906-00519184-00519400 so have you about forty four years what L-9n_hS8t7u-01907-00519401-00519577 we've just set ourselves as a stretch L-9n_hS8t7u-01908-00519578-00519981 goal in Florida we could offer you so we L-9n_hS8t7u-01909-00519982-00520225 can also do a full session on active a L-9n_hS8t7u-01910-00520226-00520525 be testing putting together design L-9n_hS8t7u-01911-00520526-00520854 processes so that you are testing live L-9n_hS8t7u-01912-00520855-00521125 iteratively as you roll out new L-9n_hS8t7u-01913-00521126-00521550 resources as well basically doesn't have L-9n_hS8t7u-01914-00521551-00522052 to be a separate thing yeah great what L-9n_hS8t7u-01915-00522053-00522481 are the questions we have um I mean one L-9n_hS8t7u-01916-00522482-00522760 of these here is what what would be kind L-9n_hS8t7u-01917-00522760-00523258 of your recommendations on most relevant L-9n_hS8t7u-01918-00523259-00523468 few articles for the last two or three L-9n_hS8t7u-01919-00523468-00523624 years if somebody is going to go read a L-9n_hS8t7u-01920-00523625-00523845 article on this what would you recommend L-9n_hS8t7u-01921-00523846-00524284 so relevant research or relevant L-9n_hS8t7u-01922-00524285-00524488 because you just suggested hey start L-9n_hS8t7u-01923-00524489-00524710 with the literature review look at the L-9n_hS8t7u-01924-00524711-00524863 research what article would you L-9n_hS8t7u-01925-00524864-00525091 recommend well I will take the easy path L-9n_hS8t7u-01926-00525092-00525475 and say so I've just posted two ls ends L-9n_hS8t7u-01927-00525476-00525730 half the mental model that Rachel L-9n_hS8t7u-01928-00525731-00525973 described and that summarized five L-9n_hS8t7u-01929-00525974-00526240 different national wealth for national L-9n_hS8t7u-01930-00526241-00526480 studies and one Canadian study and L-9n_hS8t7u-01931-00526481-00526768 that's I think where I would recommend L-9n_hS8t7u-01932-00526769-00527055 starting there all five of them are L-9n_hS8t7u-01933-00527056-00527350 studies of kind of how self represented L-9n_hS8t7u-01934-00527351-00527653 litigants think about information to L-9n_hS8t7u-01935-00527654-00527743 help themselves L-9n_hS8t7u-01936-00527744-00527995 oh that was posted to our email list L-9n_hS8t7u-01937-00527996-00528298 we'll grab that and put it into the blog L-9n_hS8t7u-01938-00528299-00528670 summary of this particular webinar as we L-9n_hS8t7u-01939-00528671-00529179 post the video yeah great L-9n_hS8t7u-01940-00529180-00529477 other questions or do we need to wrap up L-9n_hS8t7u-01941-00529478-00529978 right on the hour so there was a L-9n_hS8t7u-01942-00529979-00530119 question which is the lit review from L-9n_hS8t7u-01943-00530120-00530416 Ohio and I assume that is what part of L-9n_hS8t7u-01944-00530417-00531093 that was yeah okay excellent perfect yes L-9n_hS8t7u-01945-00531094-00531382 we also just recently posted and can L-9n_hS8t7u-01946-00531383-00531729 repose I can send around again the full L-9n_hS8t7u-01947-00531730-00532138 report from the user research that L-9n_hS8t7u-01948-00532139-00532339 Rachel mentioned which among other L-9n_hS8t7u-01949-00532340-00532525 things had I mean it has the results but L-9n_hS8t7u-01950-00532526-00532714 it also has these higher methodology and L-9n_hS8t7u-01951-00532715-00532864 has exactly what we did in the entire L-9n_hS8t7u-01952-00532865-00533266 guide or it in it so there there was an L-9n_hS8t7u-01953-00533267-00533464 interesting question about how how can L-9n_hS8t7u-01954-00533465-00533812 government agencies use gift card ideas L-9n_hS8t7u-01955-00533813-00534085 for participation it seems like not L-9n_hS8t7u-01956-00534086-00534301 doing so because of using public funds L-9n_hS8t7u-01957-00534302-00534582 my my quick answer on that is that L-9n_hS8t7u-01958-00534583-00534955 compensating people for participation in L-9n_hS8t7u-01959-00534956-00535347 an activity I'm not familiar with any L-9n_hS8t7u-01960-00535348-00535711 restriction there the restrictions that L-9n_hS8t7u-01961-00535712-00535852 I'm aware of come into things like L-9n_hS8t7u-01962-00535853-00536044 competitively bidding contracts at a L-9n_hS8t7u-01963-00536045-00536368 certain size that type of stuff but a L-9n_hS8t7u-01964-00536369-00536680 nominal compensation is extremely common L-9n_hS8t7u-01965-00536681-00536988 in the legal services industry for L-9n_hS8t7u-01966-00536989-00537262 giving for people who are giving their L-9n_hS8t7u-01967-00537263-00537547 time to really improve these resources L-9n_hS8t7u-01968-00537548-00537749 I feel like Rachael you guys thought a L-9n_hS8t7u-01969-00537750-00537899 little about that yeah you know what he L-9n_hS8t7u-01970-00537900-00538325 happened to my question um so we didn't L-9n_hS8t7u-01971-00538326-00538601 really get into it we did have a testing L-9n_hS8t7u-01972-00538602-00538970 site at a court Self Help Center and our L-9n_hS8t7u-01973-00538971-00539240 our office which is a non-governmental L-9n_hS8t7u-01974-00539241-00539453 organization with offering the gift card L-9n_hS8t7u-01975-00539454-00539762 with you know within the context of the L-9n_hS8t7u-01976-00539763-00540017 court and the courts didn't seem to have L-9n_hS8t7u-01977-00540018-00540299 an issue with that but I you know I L-9n_hS8t7u-01978-00540300-00540560 think it probably may depend on your L-9n_hS8t7u-01979-00540561-00541169 individual you know administration what L-9n_hS8t7u-01980-00541170-00541526 else we have Brent um I think that's a I L-9n_hS8t7u-01981-00541527-00541736 think that covers everything we've had a L-9n_hS8t7u-01982-00541737-00541913 very interactive session today we're L-9n_hS8t7u-01983-00541914-00542081 going to have that summary up and then L-9n_hS8t7u-01984-00542082-00542303 the entire webinar will be available on L-9n_hS8t7u-01985-00542304-00542597 our YouTube channel thank you so much L-9n_hS8t7u-01986-00542598-00542797 for putting this together today I really L-9n_hS8t7u-01987-00542798-00543095 appreciate it thank you both to Dan L-9n_hS8t7u-01988-00543096-00543326 Jackson and to Rachel Harris and then to L-9n_hS8t7u-01989-00543327-00543452 Laura Quinn for putting this together L-9n_hS8t7u-01990-00543453-00543833 it's been a wonderful session and thanks L-9n_hS8t7u-01991-00543834-00543995 everybody for coming thank you to Dan L-9n_hS8t7u-01992-00543996-00544310 and Rachel uh and I hope to don't see L-9n_hS8t7u-01993-00544311-00544637 you at another examine our students L_p94RLJ5MQ-00000-00000016-00000351 mini lad the man we all love to hate L_p94RLJ5MQ-00001-00000352-00000582 he's a bastard and he seems to have L_p94RLJ5MQ-00002-00000583-00000774 finally [__] off from the internet L_p94RLJ5MQ-00003-00000775-00000966 so today we're going to talk about L_p94RLJ5MQ-00004-00000967-00001158 everything that mini lads done L_p94RLJ5MQ-00005-00001159-00001535 from the accusations of inappropriate L_p94RLJ5MQ-00006-00001536-00001639 means L_p94RLJ5MQ-00007-00001639-00001847 to all of the random slip-ups and goofs L_p94RLJ5MQ-00008-00001848-00002014 that caused his career L_p94RLJ5MQ-00009-00002016-00002342 to plummet like the titanic L_p94RLJ5MQ-00010-00002343-00002687 only happy so L_p94RLJ5MQ-00011-00002688-00002950 let's get into this this epic video with L_p94RLJ5MQ-00012-00002951-00003087 the boys L_p94RLJ5MQ-00013-00003088-00003295 before we start i have a new microphone L_p94RLJ5MQ-00014-00003296-00003486 it's it's quite good L_p94RLJ5MQ-00015-00003488-00003686 cost me too much money but you know i L_p94RLJ5MQ-00016-00003688-00003863 know so you get to hear my voice L_p94RLJ5MQ-00017-00003864-00004015 in better definition than you ever did L_p94RLJ5MQ-00018-00004015-00004206 before mainly because the microphone i L_p94RLJ5MQ-00019-00004207-00004406 had before cost me a fiver L_p94RLJ5MQ-00020-00004407-00004711 and now we got that gucci and by good L_p94RLJ5MQ-00021-00004712-00004838 [__] i mean L_p94RLJ5MQ-00022-00004839-00005206 i've skinned myself for a month L_p94RLJ5MQ-00023-00005207-00005583 damn you student loan damn you L_p94RLJ5MQ-00024-00005584-00006334 let's do it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00025-00006335-00006486 we shall start as we always do at the L_p94RLJ5MQ-00026-00006487-00006775 beginning the beginning of it all L_p94RLJ5MQ-00027-00006776-00007078 when back in 2012 and 2013 L_p94RLJ5MQ-00028-00007079-00007414 mini loud was saying and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00029-00007415-00007614 as you can see those words are censored L_p94RLJ5MQ-00030-00007615-00007870 and i didn't actually say the n word L_p94RLJ5MQ-00031-00007872-00008271 i said neighbor because i am a champion L_p94RLJ5MQ-00032-00008272-00008614 of people and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00033-00008615-00008767 also that word's just [__] anyway L_p94RLJ5MQ-00034-00008768-00008919 while you're saying it stop it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00035-00008920-00009271 stop it these screenshots here show all L_p94RLJ5MQ-00036-00009272-00009471 the times he did actually say it and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00037-00009472-00009855 as a man a a male L_p94RLJ5MQ-00038-00009856-00010063 i disagree with them i especially L_p94RLJ5MQ-00039-00010064-00010263 disagree with the n-word mainly due to L_p94RLJ5MQ-00040-00010264-00010446 the fact that L_p94RLJ5MQ-00041-00010447-00010814 you know it's not very nice L_p94RLJ5MQ-00042-00010815-00010999 i also really really really disagree L_p94RLJ5MQ-00043-00011000-00011199 with the L_p94RLJ5MQ-00044-00011200-00011510 because as a man i believe that we L_p94RLJ5MQ-00045-00011511-00011623 should not L_p94RLJ5MQ-00046-00011624-00011919 bully people for liking a bit of men or L_p94RLJ5MQ-00047-00011920-00011991 women L_p94RLJ5MQ-00048-00011992-00012303 if they are themselves a man or a woman L_p94RLJ5MQ-00049-00012304-00012623 let them shag who they want it's none of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00050-00012624-00012759 your business L_p94RLJ5MQ-00051-00012760-00013007 unless you are the man shaking a man L_p94RLJ5MQ-00052-00013008-00013079 then L_p94RLJ5MQ-00053-00013080-00013415 by all means shag away my friend L_p94RLJ5MQ-00054-00013416-00013703 shag away but yeah these screenshots L_p94RLJ5MQ-00055-00013704-00013847 were indicative of patton L_p94RLJ5MQ-00056-00013847-00014199 that would emerge eventually of him L_p94RLJ5MQ-00057-00014200-00014455 goofing up and trying not to acknowledge L_p94RLJ5MQ-00058-00014456-00014519 it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00059-00014519-00014655 he used the n-word and the f-word L_p94RLJ5MQ-00060-00014656-00014871 multiple times it did dwindle away L_p94RLJ5MQ-00061-00014872-00015007 however L_p94RLJ5MQ-00062-00015008-00015279 you can give him that not tiny tiny bit L_p94RLJ5MQ-00063-00015280-00015350 of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00064-00015351-00015686 leeway however the next accusations L_p94RLJ5MQ-00065-00015687-00015871 they're not going to go anywhere because L_p94RLJ5MQ-00066-00015872-00016775 they're [__] awful L_p94RLJ5MQ-00067-00016776-00017079 on june 23rd some accusations came out L_p94RLJ5MQ-00068-00017080-00017471 from a lovely woman called haley L_p94RLJ5MQ-00069-00017472-00017758 the first tweet stated i was manipulated L_p94RLJ5MQ-00070-00017759-00017894 by minilad i was 16 L_p94RLJ5MQ-00071-00017895-00018199 17 he was 20 plus and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00072-00018200-00018463 she leaves photos and evidence and a L_p94RLJ5MQ-00073-00018464-00018607 huge statement L_p94RLJ5MQ-00074-00018608-00018855 it's later cooperated by a lovely also L_p94RLJ5MQ-00075-00018856-00019030 lovely woman called ashley L_p94RLJ5MQ-00076-00019031-00019375 a pair of them just absolute just L_p94RLJ5MQ-00077-00019376-00019503 lovely human beings who shouldn't have L_p94RLJ5MQ-00078-00019504-00019703 been put in this situation at all L_p94RLJ5MQ-00079-00019704-00019935 now there was a bit of controversy over L_p94RLJ5MQ-00080-00019936-00020063 the age L_p94RLJ5MQ-00081-00020064-00020430 because in the uk where i'm not from L_p94RLJ5MQ-00082-00020431-00020671 i know i sound like it but i'm not i am L_p94RLJ5MQ-00083-00020672-00020807 from L_p94RLJ5MQ-00084-00020808-00021158 zimbabwe as you can tell L_p94RLJ5MQ-00085-00021159-00021375 the age of consent in the uk is 16 L_p94RLJ5MQ-00086-00021376-00021591 that's where mainland is from however L_p94RLJ5MQ-00087-00021592-00021791 in america depending on the state it can L_p94RLJ5MQ-00088-00021792-00022078 range between 16 and 18. L_p94RLJ5MQ-00089-00022079-00022391 so it's murky L_p94RLJ5MQ-00090-00022392-00022583 and also regardless if there's an age L_p94RLJ5MQ-00091-00022584-00022791 gap of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00092-00022792-00023063 say 16 to 17 and he was 20 plus as this L_p94RLJ5MQ-00093-00023064-00023207 tweet states L_p94RLJ5MQ-00094-00023208-00023535 you stay away from it any right thinking L_p94RLJ5MQ-00095-00023536-00023742 human being would stay away from it but L_p94RLJ5MQ-00096-00023743-00024230 mini lad didn't he baited them with L_p94RLJ5MQ-00097-00024231-00024503 his depression and how he's feeling L_p94RLJ5MQ-00098-00024504-00024711 suicidal to get them to do things and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00099-00024712-00024991 send pictures and sext which is just L_p94RLJ5MQ-00100-00024992-00025094 [__] up L_p94RLJ5MQ-00101-00025095-00025391 he shouldn't have done this at all and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00102-00025392-00025591 his response L_p94RLJ5MQ-00103-00025592-00025822 well it didn't paint a pretty picture L_p94RLJ5MQ-00104-00025823-00025990 did it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00105-00025991-00026134 i'm not going to go into detail about L_p94RLJ5MQ-00106-00026135-00026302 the response because L_p94RLJ5MQ-00107-00026304-00026511 there's already videos on on my channel L_p94RLJ5MQ-00108-00026512-00026679 and many other channels i'll link mine L_p94RLJ5MQ-00109-00026680-00026807 and i'll link some of the ones that i L_p94RLJ5MQ-00110-00026808-00026990 found particularly interesting L_p94RLJ5MQ-00111-00026991-00027262 but the response was awful and then he L_p94RLJ5MQ-00112-00027263-00027462 had the audacity to jump right back on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00113-00027463-00027518 to the L_p94RLJ5MQ-00114-00027519-00027743 happy-go-lucky gameplays oh i found kim L_p94RLJ5MQ-00115-00027744-00027974 jong-un in north korea blah blah blah L_p94RLJ5MQ-00116-00027975-00028302 and it was just not on until L_p94RLJ5MQ-00117-00028304-00028446 until he could actually come out and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00118-00028447-00028695 talk about it he shouldn't have even L_p94RLJ5MQ-00119-00028695-00028895 been on the site to begin with he should L_p94RLJ5MQ-00120-00028895-00029079 have just straight up gone dark L_p94RLJ5MQ-00121-00029080-00029279 or you know done the honest thing of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00122-00029280-00029390 released an apology L_p94RLJ5MQ-00123-00029391-00029614 but he didn't because like the scumbag L_p94RLJ5MQ-00124-00029616-00029727 he is he thought L_p94RLJ5MQ-00125-00029727-00029958 he could hide it and could get past it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00126-00029960-00030031 if he just L_p94RLJ5MQ-00127-00030032-00030255 ignored it released a five minute video L_p94RLJ5MQ-00128-00030256-00030446 where he waffled and blamed everyone L_p94RLJ5MQ-00129-00030447-00030495 else but L_p94RLJ5MQ-00130-00030495-00030758 himself and then carried on as if it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00131-00030760-00030943 never happened L_p94RLJ5MQ-00132-00030944-00031199 but the response he did give on the 29th L_p94RLJ5MQ-00133-00031200-00031462 of december which we also talked about L_p94RLJ5MQ-00134-00031463-00031670 didn't shed much better light on him at L_p94RLJ5MQ-00135-00031672-00031895 all it revealed a lot of manipulative L_p94RLJ5MQ-00136-00031895-00032031 behavior from minilad L_p94RLJ5MQ-00137-00032032-00032302 it revealed a lot of dark dark [__] L_p94RLJ5MQ-00138-00032303-00032462 which he shouldn't have said L_p94RLJ5MQ-00139-00032463-00032662 he baited people with suicide to not L_p94RLJ5MQ-00140-00032663-00032823 talk about what was going on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00141-00032824-00033135 to do things for him and to be sexual L_p94RLJ5MQ-00142-00033136-00033318 with minors L_p94RLJ5MQ-00143-00033319-00033815 like jesus christ man that's [__] up L_p94RLJ5MQ-00144-00033816-00034143 anyone with a right thinking brain would L_p94RLJ5MQ-00145-00034144-00034343 know that's [__] up L_p94RLJ5MQ-00146-00034344-00034527 and this is a in danger of turning into L_p94RLJ5MQ-00147-00034528-00034823 a rant so L_p94RLJ5MQ-00148-00034824-00035039 i'm gonna leave this section here and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00149-00035040-00035215 we're gonna talk about the twitch ban L_p94RLJ5MQ-00150-00035216-00035390 and new news that's come out about him L_p94RLJ5MQ-00151-00035391-00035518 which i've only just discovered in the L_p94RLJ5MQ-00152-00035519-00035662 past five minutes between L_p94RLJ5MQ-00153-00035663-00036615 looking for references for this video L_p94RLJ5MQ-00154-00036616-00036855 forward now to the end of february and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00155-00036856-00036999 the news comes out that meal has been L_p94RLJ5MQ-00156-00037000-00037111 banned on twitch L_p94RLJ5MQ-00157-00037112-00037343 now this was brilliant news this was L_p94RLJ5MQ-00158-00037344-00037518 just absolutely L_p94RLJ5MQ-00159-00037519-00037711 amazing news because youtube haven't L_p94RLJ5MQ-00160-00037712-00037862 banned them L_p94RLJ5MQ-00161-00037863-00038302 they didn't do anything as far i'm aware L_p94RLJ5MQ-00162-00038303-00038455 i don't know if they've done anything L_p94RLJ5MQ-00163-00038456-00038607 particular maybe they've demonetized L_p94RLJ5MQ-00164-00038608-00038751 this channel maybe they haven't i don't L_p94RLJ5MQ-00165-00038752-00038951 actually know L_p94RLJ5MQ-00166-00038952-00039174 but twitch actually touches stand L_p94RLJ5MQ-00167-00039175-00039302 against him L_p94RLJ5MQ-00168-00039303-00039551 and banned him [__] good on you L_p94RLJ5MQ-00169-00039552-00039735 twitch L_p94RLJ5MQ-00170-00039736-00039911 the video for that is also out on my L_p94RLJ5MQ-00171-00039912-00040095 channel that video i will admit is L_p94RLJ5MQ-00172-00040096-00040223 incredibly scuff L_p94RLJ5MQ-00173-00040224-00040423 mainly because i was sorting stuff out L_p94RLJ5MQ-00174-00040424-00040630 i've been all over the place lately L_p94RLJ5MQ-00175-00040631-00040999 um with my house and my wife and seven L_p94RLJ5MQ-00176-00041000-00041223 children L_p94RLJ5MQ-00177-00041224-00041718 they left me again shh but L_p94RLJ5MQ-00178-00041719-00041943 with that small thing there comes a big L_p94RLJ5MQ-00179-00041944-00042118 thing and recently L_p94RLJ5MQ-00180-00042119-00042287 and i say recently because it was very L_p94RLJ5MQ-00181-00042288-00042527 recently i'm currently recording this at L_p94RLJ5MQ-00182-00042528-00042655 three in the morning L_p94RLJ5MQ-00183-00042656-00042887 at about 20 to three i discovered an L_p94RLJ5MQ-00184-00042888-00042974 article L_p94RLJ5MQ-00185-00042975-00043095 and we're going to talk about that right L_p94RLJ5MQ-00186-00043096-00043374 now as the closest of this video because L_p94RLJ5MQ-00187-00043375-00043511 i don't know if you can tell but i'm L_p94RLJ5MQ-00188-00043512-00043711 seeing would rage L_p94RLJ5MQ-00189-00043712-00044727 pure rage L_p94RLJ5MQ-00190-00044728-00045079 so this article then this article is L_p94RLJ5MQ-00191-00045080-00045511 from sports scadia sports skeeder L_p94RLJ5MQ-00192-00045512-00045830 sports geather and it's titled minilad L_p94RLJ5MQ-00193-00045831-00045990 who is accused of grooming minor says he L_p94RLJ5MQ-00194-00045991-00046127 will come back to youtube when the time L_p94RLJ5MQ-00195-00046128-00046287 is right L_p94RLJ5MQ-00196-00046288-00046471 craig midland thompson was spotted in L_p94RLJ5MQ-00197-00046472-00046662 dallas by paparazzi he claims to have L_p94RLJ5MQ-00198-00046663-00046871 moved to the city from l.a recently and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00199-00046872-00047174 is currently setting up shop there L_p94RLJ5MQ-00200-00047175-00047367 milaz has faced a lot of accusations of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00201-00047368-00047558 grooming towards minors at the end of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00202-00047559-00047758 2020 he's not been seen on youtube since L_p94RLJ5MQ-00203-00047759-00047799 the last L_p94RLJ5MQ-00204-00047800-00048086 video on the 29th of december mini lad L_p94RLJ5MQ-00205-00048087-00048223 was a viral youtuber L_p94RLJ5MQ-00206-00048224-00048439 with approximately 5.16 million L_p94RLJ5MQ-00207-00048440-00048590 subscribers on his channel his vlogs and L_p94RLJ5MQ-00208-00048591-00048711 comedy sketches propelled him to L_p94RLJ5MQ-00209-00048712-00048862 becoming one of the top 100 uk L_p94RLJ5MQ-00210-00048863-00048943 influencers L_p94RLJ5MQ-00211-00048944-00049343 in the uk 2020 was a rough year for mini L_p94RLJ5MQ-00212-00049344-00049495 lab because he was constantly involved L_p94RLJ5MQ-00213-00049496-00049671 in one controversy after another there L_p94RLJ5MQ-00214-00049672-00049783 weren't controversies L_p94RLJ5MQ-00215-00049784-00050079 they were [__] crimes and there's a L_p94RLJ5MQ-00216-00050080-00050199 video here L_p94RLJ5MQ-00217-00050200-00050343 i'm going to link it i'm not going to L_p94RLJ5MQ-00218-00050344-00050495 give the [__] gun back the time of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00219-00050496-00050535 day L_p94RLJ5MQ-00220-00050536-00050879 but to give you the the lowdown L_p94RLJ5MQ-00221-00050880-00051095 like the kids say he basically says it's L_p94RLJ5MQ-00222-00051096-00051238 been a few months he's just moved to L_p94RLJ5MQ-00223-00051239-00051311 dallas L_p94RLJ5MQ-00224-00051312-00051479 he hasn't had power and all that he's L_p94RLJ5MQ-00225-00051479-00051614 been meditating and working out and he's L_p94RLJ5MQ-00226-00051615-00051782 cut himself off from the internet L_p94RLJ5MQ-00227-00051783-00052094 now those are good steps but you L_p94RLJ5MQ-00228-00052095-00052142 shouldn't L_p94RLJ5MQ-00229-00052144-00052319 have to cut yourself from the internet L_p94RLJ5MQ-00230-00052320-00052511 you shouldn't come back to the internet L_p94RLJ5MQ-00231-00052512-00052607 friend L_p94RLJ5MQ-00232-00052608-00052879 like come on you can read the writing on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00233-00052879-00053038 the wall as much as anyone else at this L_p94RLJ5MQ-00234-00053039-00053079 point L_p94RLJ5MQ-00235-00053079-00053311 you should not come back and the fact L_p94RLJ5MQ-00236-00053312-00053447 that you're even considering it L_p94RLJ5MQ-00237-00053448-00053566 like i'll come back when the time is L_p94RLJ5MQ-00238-00053567-00053750 right oh it's been a really weird few L_p94RLJ5MQ-00239-00053751-00053879 months it's not been weird for you L_p94RLJ5MQ-00240-00053879-00054023 months L_p94RLJ5MQ-00241-00054024-00054342 you groomed [__] miners mate and now L_p94RLJ5MQ-00242-00054344-00054487 you'll be oh it's a weird few months i'm L_p94RLJ5MQ-00243-00054488-00054607 gonna come back when the time is right L_p94RLJ5MQ-00244-00054608-00054782 now say the [__] away from the internet L_p94RLJ5MQ-00245-00054783-00054911 mate come on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00246-00054912-00055215 use your [__] brain L_p94RLJ5MQ-00247-00055216-00055471 but the article goes on to say however L_p94RLJ5MQ-00248-00055472-00055623 it seems that the internet wasn't too L_p94RLJ5MQ-00249-00055624-00055782 keen on having him back online L_p94RLJ5MQ-00250-00055783-00055982 correct they felt his behavior was L_p94RLJ5MQ-00251-00055983-00056150 problematic L_p94RLJ5MQ-00252-00056151-00056303 and despite apologizing he should just L_p94RLJ5MQ-00253-00056304-00056454 stay away from youtube L_p94RLJ5MQ-00254-00056455-00056623 one user also pointed out that minilab L_p94RLJ5MQ-00255-00056624-00056742 moved to a state where the age of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00256-00056744-00056894 consent was 17 L_p94RLJ5MQ-00257-00056895-00057166 which also ironically happened to be the L_p94RLJ5MQ-00258-00057167-00057519 age of one of the victims L_p94RLJ5MQ-00259-00057520-00058126 i didn't even think of that like come on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00260-00058127-00058375 i'm just saving good rage i genuinely L_p94RLJ5MQ-00261-00058376-00058503 lost for words these videos aren't L_p94RLJ5MQ-00262-00058504-00058694 always scripted i have a script here L_p94RLJ5MQ-00263-00058695-00058911 which was just a basic script and i do L_p94RLJ5MQ-00264-00058912-00059079 riff a lot of the video is riffing i L_p94RLJ5MQ-00265-00059079-00059279 make points and i riff L_p94RLJ5MQ-00266-00059279-00059471 but this is just shot from the blue for L_p94RLJ5MQ-00267-00059472-00059654 me because i was just looking for L_p94RLJ5MQ-00268-00059655-00059847 the ban on twitch article and this come L_p94RLJ5MQ-00269-00059848-00060023 up L_p94RLJ5MQ-00270-00060024-00060391 [__] hell i'm gonna leave this in the L_p94RLJ5MQ-00271-00060391-00060511 description L_p94RLJ5MQ-00272-00060512-00060775 and it's just said to me that the actual L_p94RLJ5MQ-00273-00060776-00061030 one of the tags for this is minecraft L_p94RLJ5MQ-00274-00061032-00061342 the tag for this article is minecraft L_p94RLJ5MQ-00275-00061344-00061506 you can see that in the url L_p94RLJ5MQ-00276-00061507-00061682 sportskeeter.com L_p94RLJ5MQ-00277-00061683-00062015 minecraft come on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00278-00062016-00062375 jesus christ this has turned into a L_p94RLJ5MQ-00279-00062376-00062566 full-blown rant and i apologize L_p94RLJ5MQ-00280-00062567-00062750 uh the video is well over 10 minutes now L_p94RLJ5MQ-00281-00062751-00062887 which i wasn't planning on L_p94RLJ5MQ-00282-00062888-00063103 because i don't do drama videos and when L_p94RLJ5MQ-00283-00063104-00063375 i do i don't do them for this long L_p94RLJ5MQ-00284-00063376-00064382 so here's the outro L_p94RLJ5MQ-00285-00064383-00064630 so let's review over the course of his L_p94RLJ5MQ-00286-00064632-00064735 youtube career L_p94RLJ5MQ-00287-00064736-00064919 mini ladder has gone to call his many L_p94RLJ5MQ-00288-00064920-00065038 friends L_p94RLJ5MQ-00289-00065039-00065543 and he groomed miners L_p94RLJ5MQ-00290-00065544-00065943 he has fragrantly L_p94RLJ5MQ-00291-00065944-00066294 just flaunted every human concept of L_p94RLJ5MQ-00292-00066295-00066406 decency L_p94RLJ5MQ-00293-00066407-00066535 and now he's going to be coming back L_p94RLJ5MQ-00294-00066536-00066726 eventually L_p94RLJ5MQ-00295-00066727-00067150 so this is a message purely to minilad L_p94RLJ5MQ-00296-00067151-00067367 stay the [__] away from us stay away L_p94RLJ5MQ-00297-00067368-00067543 from the internet stay away from youtube L_p94RLJ5MQ-00298-00067544-00067631 twitter twitch L_p94RLJ5MQ-00299-00067632-00067911 instagram facebook [__] myspace stay L_p94RLJ5MQ-00300-00067912-00068071 away you are not welcome here L_p94RLJ5MQ-00301-00068072-00068479 you're a scumbag i hope you [__] rot L_p94RLJ5MQ-00302-00068480-00068679 thank you for watching this video i L_p94RLJ5MQ-00303-00068680-00068831 apologize for the rant L_p94RLJ5MQ-00304-00068832-00069199 enjoy subscribe subscribe like if L_p94RLJ5MQ-00305-00069200-00069606 sheriff with thine friends um L_p94RLJ5MQ-00306-00069607-00069935 [__] go call me 11 nonce don't do L_p94RLJ5MQ-00307-00069936-00070079 that i'll get into trouble for that but L_p94RLJ5MQ-00308-00070080-00070167 do it anyway L_p94RLJ5MQ-00309-00070168-00070688 just don't mention me toodlepip fellas LBg_z03Tezc-00000-00000197-00001519 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00001-00001520-00001748 I hear about me LBg_z03Tezc-00002-00001750-00001857 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00003-00001857-00002052 Oh LBg_z03Tezc-00004-00002053-00002182 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00005-00002183-00002428 dear LBg_z03Tezc-00006-00002429-00003023 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00007-00003024-00003788 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00008-00003789-00003999 me run and play LBg_z03Tezc-00009-00004000-00004195 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00010-00004196-00004640 yup a every game LBg_z03Tezc-00011-00004641-00005027 good girl LBg_z03Tezc-00012-00005028-00005320 I have a puppy LBg_z03Tezc-00013-00005321-00005628 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00014-00005629-00006708 it's my toy LBg_z03Tezc-00015-00006709-00008491 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00016-00008492-00009915 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00017-00009916-00010481 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00018-00010482-00010959 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00019-00010960-00011266 love her body yet LBg_z03Tezc-00020-00011267-00011700 dude LBg_z03Tezc-00021-00011701-00012536 [Music] LBg_z03Tezc-00022-00012537-00012773 you LBg_z03Tezc-00023-00012774-00013124 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00000-00000549-00001491 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00001-00001492-00002582 what LCkpD0sS3hY-00002-00002583-00002883 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00003-00002884-00003340 foreign LCkpD0sS3hY-00004-00003340-00004737 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00005-00004738-00006547 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00006-00006548-00007465 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00007-00007466-00010230 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00008-00010231-00011162 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00009-00011163-00012445 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00010-00012446-00013107 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00011-00013108-00014083 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00012-00014084-00014208 foreign LCkpD0sS3hY-00013-00014209-00014905 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00014-00014906-00017362 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00015-00017363-00018283 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00016-00018284-00019249 foreign LCkpD0sS3hY-00017-00019250-00019686 [Music] LCkpD0sS3hY-00018-00019687-00019984 foreign LDhXncUiDJo-00000-00000606-00001350 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00001-00001351-00001574 all right guys so we're in the park now LDhXncUiDJo-00002-00001575-00001759 we uh just checked out some of the merch LDhXncUiDJo-00003-00001760-00001951 as you guys just seen we've been in the LDhXncUiDJo-00004-00001952-00002063 park i don't know what he's talking LDhXncUiDJo-00005-00002064-00002142 about LDhXncUiDJo-00006-00002143-00002295 yeah we've been in the park a little bit LDhXncUiDJo-00007-00002296-00002415 okay so it looks like this is where the LDhXncUiDJo-00008-00002416-00002647 bride of frankenstein maze is going to LDhXncUiDJo-00009-00002648-00002871 be and look no wait time let's go LDhXncUiDJo-00010-00002872-00003118 oh wait they're not open yet LDhXncUiDJo-00011-00003119-00003303 so LDhXncUiDJo-00012-00003304-00003511 i know here LDhXncUiDJo-00013-00003511-00003663 what was it four or five years ago when LDhXncUiDJo-00014-00003664-00003854 we were here this is where the walking LDhXncUiDJo-00015-00003855-00004063 dead uh maze was LDhXncUiDJo-00016-00004064-00004303 had a big old helicopter go across LDhXncUiDJo-00017-00004304-00004438 or you know between the two buildings LDhXncUiDJo-00018-00004439-00004591 let's see LDhXncUiDJo-00019-00004592-00004759 nope LDhXncUiDJo-00020-00004760-00004877 it's not that this here LDhXncUiDJo-00021-00004878-00005270 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00022-00005271-00005495 it is yeah it's something LDhXncUiDJo-00023-00005496-00005759 don't know what LDhXncUiDJo-00024-00005760-00005959 but uh we'll find out together right LDhXncUiDJo-00025-00005960-00006231 mel's diner males is always good LDhXncUiDJo-00026-00006232-00006383 because it wraps around LDhXncUiDJo-00027-00006384-00006670 was that always a male's diner LDhXncUiDJo-00028-00006672-00006934 it has it was yes i always remember it LDhXncUiDJo-00029-00006936-00007183 being like some sandwich and place or LDhXncUiDJo-00030-00007184-00007375 something LDhXncUiDJo-00031-00007376-00007551 but there's the looks like the secret LDhXncUiDJo-00032-00007552-00007687 life of pets LDhXncUiDJo-00033-00007688-00007781 entrance LDhXncUiDJo-00034-00007781-00008383 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00035-00008384-00008483 there we LDhXncUiDJo-00036-00008484-00008742 go despicable me LDhXncUiDJo-00037-00008743-00008903 we've been on that LDhXncUiDJo-00038-00008904-00009055 you want to go uh go hit that ride real LDhXncUiDJo-00039-00009056-00009214 quick no no LDhXncUiDJo-00040-00009215-00009383 oh that's right she doesn't like LDhXncUiDJo-00041-00009384-00009551 simulator right so we have to miss out LDhXncUiDJo-00042-00009552-00009751 on this right no no LDhXncUiDJo-00043-00009752-00010046 there's a pet slice LDhXncUiDJo-00044-00010047-00010510 yeah so i don't know is it down LDhXncUiDJo-00045-00010511-00010774 close what is this LDhXncUiDJo-00046-00010775-00010951 secret life defense let's go on let's go LDhXncUiDJo-00047-00010952-00011255 ready LDhXncUiDJo-00048-00011256-00012206 we're gonna LDhXncUiDJo-00049-00012207-00012563 oh LDhXncUiDJo-00050-00012564-00013022 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00051-00013023-00013791 like it because he's a leaner dog LDhXncUiDJo-00052-00013791-00014207 what i mean LDhXncUiDJo-00053-00014208-00014535 how many lost puppies there are max i LDhXncUiDJo-00054-00014536-00014758 know gotta be at least LDhXncUiDJo-00055-00014759-00014935 i don't know numbers but there are a lot LDhXncUiDJo-00056-00014936-00015247 of them do you guys live around here LDhXncUiDJo-00057-00015247-00015479 duke i don't think they have homes they LDhXncUiDJo-00058-00015480-00016548 don't LDhXncUiDJo-00059-00016549-00016983 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00060-00016984-00017175 all right all right keep it down no LDhXncUiDJo-00061-00017176-00017279 working LDhXncUiDJo-00062-00017280-00018479 okay with a little party go ahead LDhXncUiDJo-00064-00021768-00022750 okay LDhXncUiDJo-00065-00022751-00023633 so cool LDhXncUiDJo-00066-00023634-00024583 [Applause] LDhXncUiDJo-00067-00024584-00025438 [Applause] LDhXncUiDJo-00068-00025439-00026006 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00069-00026007-00026466 hmm LDhXncUiDJo-00070-00026467-00027262 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00071-00027263-00027887 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00072-00027888-00028094 oh LDhXncUiDJo-00073-00028095-00029046 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00074-00029047-00029190 that's not a little bit of water that's LDhXncUiDJo-00075-00029191-00029625 a lot of water LDhXncUiDJo-00076-00029626-00030102 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00077-00030103-00031214 oh LDhXncUiDJo-00078-00031216-00032927 oh LDhXncUiDJo-00079-00032928-00033102 no LDhXncUiDJo-00080-00033103-00034679 we're nobody's pet please please LDhXncUiDJo-00081-00034680-00034974 i didn't even notice this when we got on LDhXncUiDJo-00082-00034975-00036183 oh no i guess we don't get on there LDhXncUiDJo-00083-00036184-00036483 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00084-00036484-00036702 automatically was like the little LDhXncUiDJo-00085-00036703-00036943 mermaid haunted mansion LDhXncUiDJo-00086-00036944-00037262 but way brighter and way more LDhXncUiDJo-00087-00037263-00037351 uh LDhXncUiDJo-00088-00037352-00037590 vibrant vibrant but more like updated LDhXncUiDJo-00089-00037591-00037823 with technology hands on like you can LDhXncUiDJo-00090-00037824-00038046 actually touch things and it made the LDhXncUiDJo-00091-00038047-00038271 line go a little faster right LDhXncUiDJo-00092-00038272-00038479 yeah exactly LDhXncUiDJo-00093-00038480-00038655 and then uh you could probably throw in LDhXncUiDJo-00094-00038656-00038902 like roger rabbit's cartoon spin in that LDhXncUiDJo-00095-00038903-00038990 mix LDhXncUiDJo-00096-00038991-00039262 with the roger rabbit use his hands on LDhXncUiDJo-00097-00039263-00039455 some things i'll be honest i cannot LDhXncUiDJo-00098-00039456-00039559 stand LDhXncUiDJo-00099-00039560-00039735 roger rabbit's cartoon LDhXncUiDJo-00100-00039736-00040046 spin whatever it's called LDhXncUiDJo-00101-00040047-00040335 that line is just so deceiving LDhXncUiDJo-00102-00040336-00040527 all right guys so LDhXncUiDJo-00103-00040528-00040662 the last time we were here they were LDhXncUiDJo-00104-00040663-00040846 still building LDhXncUiDJo-00105-00040847-00041039 what is this called harry LDhXncUiDJo-00106-00041040-00041190 harry potter land LDhXncUiDJo-00107-00041191-00041423 hogwarts i don't know LDhXncUiDJo-00108-00041424-00041599 last time LDhXncUiDJo-00109-00041600-00041727 the last time we were here they were LDhXncUiDJo-00110-00041728-00041895 building this and LDhXncUiDJo-00111-00041896-00042055 i have to be honest i've only seen two LDhXncUiDJo-00112-00042056-00042262 or three of the movies and LDhXncUiDJo-00113-00042263-00042527 years ago LDhXncUiDJo-00114-00042528-00042895 but this is actually pretty awesome LDhXncUiDJo-00115-00042896-00043062 kind of just cruising and cruising LDhXncUiDJo-00116-00043063-00043287 around walking around LDhXncUiDJo-00117-00043288-00043615 it's almost like you're in the movie LDhXncUiDJo-00118-00043616-00043846 we're actually pretty impressed LDhXncUiDJo-00119-00043847-00044023 universal you guys have stepped up your LDhXncUiDJo-00120-00044024-00044207 game LDhXncUiDJo-00121-00044208-00044335 big time LDhXncUiDJo-00122-00044336-00044487 wow LDhXncUiDJo-00123-00044488-00044871 that is pretty awesome yeah i think so LDhXncUiDJo-00124-00044872-00045102 so awesome that that is actually kind of LDhXncUiDJo-00125-00045103-00045462 powerful to look at that LDhXncUiDJo-00126-00045463-00045695 like forget the whole harry potter thing LDhXncUiDJo-00127-00045696-00045983 i mean just to see that itself LDhXncUiDJo-00128-00045984-00046135 you know LDhXncUiDJo-00129-00046136-00046271 and you can tell they've used some LDhXncUiDJo-00130-00046272-00046543 forced perspective up there LDhXncUiDJo-00131-00046544-00046695 very cool LDhXncUiDJo-00132-00046696-00046846 so if you guys have followed me for a LDhXncUiDJo-00133-00046847-00047095 while if you guys have moved over from LDhXncUiDJo-00134-00047096-00047255 my other channel now on our adventures LDhXncUiDJo-00135-00047256-00047407 you guys would know LDhXncUiDJo-00136-00047408-00047607 we're urban explorer LDhXncUiDJo-00137-00047608-00047774 that would be awesome to find something LDhXncUiDJo-00138-00047775-00047927 like this abandoned in the middle of LDhXncUiDJo-00139-00047928-00048374 nowhere and explore that LDhXncUiDJo-00140-00048375-00048590 but obviously it's not a bad name we're LDhXncUiDJo-00141-00048591-00048686 here LDhXncUiDJo-00142-00048687-00048879 universal LDhXncUiDJo-00143-00048880-00048999 all right so we're just walking around LDhXncUiDJo-00144-00049000-00049158 that harry potter LDhXncUiDJo-00145-00049159-00049367 i thought it was pretty cool i mean i've LDhXncUiDJo-00146-00049368-00049590 only seen maybe two of the movies and LDhXncUiDJo-00147-00049591-00049767 what did you think brett i liked it but LDhXncUiDJo-00148-00049768-00050023 i've only seen the first movie LDhXncUiDJo-00149-00050024-00050167 yeah i think i've seen LDhXncUiDJo-00150-00050168-00050407 second to last and one other one i'm not LDhXncUiDJo-00151-00050408-00050615 really sure because you know what harry LDhXncUiDJo-00152-00050616-00050911 potter is about yeah and i i gotta say LDhXncUiDJo-00153-00050912-00051143 between that and the secret lights LDhXncUiDJo-00154-00051144-00051494 secret one secret life of that's right LDhXncUiDJo-00155-00051495-00051614 they've stepped up their game i think LDhXncUiDJo-00156-00051615-00051846 they're getting as big of a disney fans LDhXncUiDJo-00157-00051847-00051982 as we are i think they've given disney LDhXncUiDJo-00158-00051983-00052166 have run for their money LDhXncUiDJo-00159-00052167-00052454 yeah it's giving them something to LDhXncUiDJo-00160-00052455-00052719 bring out more magic in their parks LDhXncUiDJo-00161-00052720-00052959 i'm really enjoying this and i think LDhXncUiDJo-00162-00052960-00053111 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen my LDhXncUiDJo-00163-00053112-00053825 name is we'll pick this up later LDhXncUiDJo-00164-00053826-00054366 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00165-00054367-00054826 tiny little hill back there LDhXncUiDJo-00166-00054827-00056712 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00167-00056713-00057791 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00168-00057791-00057942 but uh sometimes we leave a lot of water LDhXncUiDJo-00169-00057944-00058087 effects on a little too long enough to LDhXncUiDJo-00170-00058088-00058471 suffer very professionally LDhXncUiDJo-00171-00058472-00059586 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00172-00059587-00061639 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00173-00061640-00061982 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00174-00061983-00062283 so LDhXncUiDJo-00175-00062284-00063703 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00176-00063704-00065103 hey LDhXncUiDJo-00177-00065104-00065624 a big one LDhXncUiDJo-00178-00065625-00067095 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00179-00067096-00067463 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00180-00067464-00067679 this is the plane crash set for steven LDhXncUiDJo-00181-00067680-00068375 spielberg's war of the world LDhXncUiDJo-00182-00068376-00068535 pick up rick carter the production LDhXncUiDJo-00183-00068536-00068863 designer from the scene as well as mr LDhXncUiDJo-00184-00068864-00068999 tell us a little more about how and why LDhXncUiDJo-00185-00069000-00071167 we create this awesome settings LDhXncUiDJo-00186-00071168-00071343 because it's just something you don't LDhXncUiDJo-00187-00071344-00071936 see you're doing good LDhXncUiDJo-00188-00071937-00074087 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00189-00074088-00074279 it was probably the bumpiest tram ride LDhXncUiDJo-00190-00074280-00074487 we've ever had here so i'm hoping that LDhXncUiDJo-00191-00074488-00074647 the uh the footage comes out pretty good LDhXncUiDJo-00192-00074648-00074791 for you guys LDhXncUiDJo-00193-00074792-00075094 and uh yeah i hope you guys enjoyed it LDhXncUiDJo-00194-00075095-00075238 alright guys so we're pretty excited LDhXncUiDJo-00195-00075239-00075526 because we're here opening night LDhXncUiDJo-00196-00075527-00075703 and we're the first ones in line for LDhXncUiDJo-00197-00075704-00075903 bride of frankenstein maze LDhXncUiDJo-00198-00075904-00076303 let's check it out together LDhXncUiDJo-00199-00076304-00076559 all right guys all right cool LDhXncUiDJo-00200-00076560-00076719 all right if you guys see that we're the LDhXncUiDJo-00201-00076720-00076950 first ones and there was a camera crew LDhXncUiDJo-00202-00076951-00077043 that went ahead of us LDhXncUiDJo-00203-00077044-00078371 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00204-00078372-00078671 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00205-00078672-00079475 oh LDhXncUiDJo-00206-00079476-00080087 [Music] LDhXncUiDJo-00207-00080088-00080231 yeah it was fun LDhXncUiDJo-00208-00080232-00080471 i wish we were waiting until it was LDhXncUiDJo-00209-00080472-00080599 nighttime LDhXncUiDJo-00210-00080600-00080791 whoa there we go LDhXncUiDJo-00211-00080792-00083471 that's what it's about guys LDhXncUiDJo-00212-00083472-00083680 you LJuXJtIKVYQ-00000-00000012-00000329 in physics and mathematics the dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00001-00000330-00000548 of the mathematical space or object is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00002-00000549-00000728 informally defined as the minimum number LJuXJtIKVYQ-00003-00000729-00000923 of coordinates needed to specify any LJuXJtIKVYQ-00004-00000924-00001162 point within it thus a line has a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00005-00001163-00001345 dimension of 1 because only one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00006-00001346-00001547 coordinate is needed to specify a point LJuXJtIKVYQ-00007-00001548-00001777 on it for example the point at five on a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00008-00001778-00002066 number line a surface such as a plane or LJuXJtIKVYQ-00009-00002067-00002260 the surface of a cylinder or sphere has LJuXJtIKVYQ-00010-00002261-00002405 a dimension of two because two LJuXJtIKVYQ-00011-00002406-00002591 coordinates are needed to specify a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00012-00002592-00002776 point on it for example both the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00013-00002777-00002968 latitude and longitude are required to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00014-00002969-00003131 locate a point on the surface of a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00015-00003132-00003415 sphere the inside of a cube a cylinder LJuXJtIKVYQ-00016-00003417-00003626 or a sphere is three dimensional because LJuXJtIKVYQ-00017-00003627-00003803 three coordinates are needed to locate a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00018-00003804-00004124 point within these spaces in classical LJuXJtIKVYQ-00019-00004125-00004297 mechanics space and time are different LJuXJtIKVYQ-00020-00004298-00004535 categories and refer to absolute space LJuXJtIKVYQ-00021-00004536-00004817 and time that conception of the world is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00022-00004818-00005020 a four dimensional space but not the one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00023-00005021-00005185 that was found necessary to describe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00024-00005186-00005488 electromagnetism the four dimensions of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00025-00005489-00005668 space-time consist of events that are LJuXJtIKVYQ-00026-00005669-00005858 not absolutely defined spatially and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00027-00005859-00006056 temporally but rather a known relative LJuXJtIKVYQ-00028-00006057-00006299 to the motion of an observer minkovski LJuXJtIKVYQ-00029-00006300-00006511 space first approximates the universe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00030-00006512-00006719 without gravity the pseudo Riemannian LJuXJtIKVYQ-00031-00006720-00006934 manifolds of general relativity describe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00032-00006936-00007214 space-time with matter and gravity ten LJuXJtIKVYQ-00033-00007215-00007409 dimensions are used to describe string LJuXJtIKVYQ-00034-00007409-00007613 theory eleven dimensions can describe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00035-00007614-00007831 super gravity in M theory and the state LJuXJtIKVYQ-00036-00007833-00008003 space of quantum mechanics is an LJuXJtIKVYQ-00037-00008004-00008321 infinite dimensional function space the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00038-00008322-00008534 concept of dimension is not restricted LJuXJtIKVYQ-00039-00008535-00008783 to physical objects high dimensional LJuXJtIKVYQ-00040-00008784-00009002 space is frequently occur in mathematics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00041-00009003-00009245 and the sciences they may be parameter LJuXJtIKVYQ-00042-00009246-00009473 spaces or configuration spaces such as LJuXJtIKVYQ-00043-00009474-00009649 in Lagrangian or Hamiltonian mechanics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00044-00009650-00009923 these are abstract spaces independent of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00045-00009924-00010585 the physical space we live in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00046-00010586-00011149 topic in mathematics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00047-00011150-00011383 in mathematics the dimension of an LJuXJtIKVYQ-00048-00011384-00011611 object is roughly speaking the number of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00049-00011612-00011785 degrees of freedom of a point that moves LJuXJtIKVYQ-00050-00011786-00012049 on this object in other words the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00051-00012050-00012199 dimension is the number of independent LJuXJtIKVYQ-00052-00012200-00012394 parameters or coordinates that are LJuXJtIKVYQ-00053-00012395-00012568 needed for defining the position of a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00054-00012569-00012730 point that is constrained to be on the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00055-00012731-00013024 object for example the dimension of a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00056-00013025-00013231 point is zero the dimension of the line LJuXJtIKVYQ-00057-00013232-00013450 is 1 as a point can move on a line in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00058-00013451-00013669 only one direction or its opposite the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00059-00013669-00013999 dimension of a plane is 2 etc the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00060-00014000-00014200 dimension is an intrinsic property of an LJuXJtIKVYQ-00061-00014201-00014344 object in the sense that it is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00062-00014344-00014512 independent of the dimension of the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00063-00014513-00014697 space in which the object is or can be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00064-00014699-00015001 embedded for example a curve such as a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00065-00015002-00015213 circle is of dimension 1 because the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00066-00015215-00015372 position of a point on a curve is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00067-00015374-00015556 determined by its sign distance along LJuXJtIKVYQ-00068-00015557-00015738 the curve to a fixed point on the curve LJuXJtIKVYQ-00069-00015738-00015994 this is independent from the fact that a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00070-00015994-00016177 curve cannot be embedded in a Euclidean LJuXJtIKVYQ-00071-00016178-00016399 space of dimension lower than 2 unless LJuXJtIKVYQ-00072-00016400-00016669 if it is a line the dimension of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00073-00016670-00016930 Euclidean n space n is n when trying to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00074-00016931-00017158 generalize to other types of spaces one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00075-00017159-00017380 is faced with the question what makes n LJuXJtIKVYQ-00076-00017381-00017650 n dimensional one answer is that to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00077-00017651-00017847 cover a fixed ball in n by small balls LJuXJtIKVYQ-00078-00017848-00018072 of radius epsilon one needs on the order LJuXJtIKVYQ-00079-00018073-00018397 of epsilon minus n such small balls this LJuXJtIKVYQ-00080-00018398-00018583 observation leads to the definition of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00081-00018584-00018757 the Minkowski dimension and it's more LJuXJtIKVYQ-00082-00018758-00018937 sophisticated variant the hausdorff LJuXJtIKVYQ-00083-00018938-00019129 dimension but there are also other LJuXJtIKVYQ-00084-00019130-00019258 answers to that question LJuXJtIKVYQ-00085-00019259-00019540 for example the boundary of a ball in n LJuXJtIKVYQ-00086-00019541-00019747 looks locally like n1 and this leads to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00087-00019748-00019927 the notion of the inductive dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00088-00019928-00020209 while these notions agree on n they turn LJuXJtIKVYQ-00089-00020210-00020368 out to be different when one looks at LJuXJtIKVYQ-00090-00020369-00020689 more general spaces a tesseract is an LJuXJtIKVYQ-00091-00020690-00020877 example of a four-dimensional object LJuXJtIKVYQ-00092-00020878-00021150 whereas outside mathematics the use of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00093-00021151-00021484 the term dimension is as in a tesseract LJuXJtIKVYQ-00094-00021485-00021814 has four dimensions mathematicians LJuXJtIKVYQ-00095-00021815-00022057 usually Express this as the tesseract LJuXJtIKVYQ-00096-00022058-00022414 has dimension 4 or the dimension of the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00097-00022415-00022671 tesseract is 4 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00098-00022672-00022881 although the notion of higher dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00099-00022882-00023121 goes back to Rene Descartes substantial LJuXJtIKVYQ-00100-00023122-00023289 development of a higher dimensional LJuXJtIKVYQ-00101-00023290-00023493 geometry only began in the 19th century LJuXJtIKVYQ-00102-00023494-00023691 by the work of arthur cayley LJuXJtIKVYQ-00103-00023692-00023862 william rowan hamilton ludwig schläfli LJuXJtIKVYQ-00104-00023863-00024207 and bernhard riemann Riemann's 1854 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00105-00024208-00024522 habilitation shrift ah fleas 1852 theory LJuXJtIKVYQ-00106-00024523-00024723 dere VL var can continue ITAT & LJuXJtIKVYQ-00107-00024724-00024918 Hamilton's discovery of the quaternions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00108-00024919-00025134 and jaunty graves discovery of the octo LJuXJtIKVYQ-00109-00025135-00025368 nians in 1843 marked the beginning of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00110-00025369-00025683 higher dimensional geometry the rest of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00111-00025683-00025853 this section examines some of the more LJuXJtIKVYQ-00112-00025854-00026055 important mathematical definitions of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00113-00026056-00026599 dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00114-00026600-00027140 topic vector spaces LJuXJtIKVYQ-00115-00027141-00027365 the dimension of a vector space is the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00116-00027366-00027545 number of vectors in any basis for the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00117-00027546-00027717 space ie the number of coordinates LJuXJtIKVYQ-00118-00027718-00028020 necessary to specify any vector this LJuXJtIKVYQ-00119-00028020-00028254 notion of dimension the cardinality of a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00120-00028255-00028455 basis is often referred to as the Hamel LJuXJtIKVYQ-00121-00028456-00028658 dimension or algebraic dimension to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00122-00028659-00028814 distinguish it from other notions of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00123-00028815-00029133 dimension for the non-free case this LJuXJtIKVYQ-00124-00029133-00029307 generalizes to the notion of the length LJuXJtIKVYQ-00125-00029308-00029864 of a module LJuXJtIKVYQ-00126-00029864-00030385 topic manifolds LJuXJtIKVYQ-00127-00030386-00030624 the uniquely defined dimension of every LJuXJtIKVYQ-00128-00030625-00030829 connected topological manifold can be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00129-00030830-00031111 calculated a connected topological LJuXJtIKVYQ-00130-00031112-00031311 manifold is locally homeomorphic to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00131-00031312-00031533 Euclidean n space in which the number n LJuXJtIKVYQ-00132-00031534-00031858 is the manifolds dimension for connected LJuXJtIKVYQ-00133-00031858-00032080 differentiable manifolds the dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00134-00032081-00032257 is also the dimension of the tangent LJuXJtIKVYQ-00135-00032258-00032652 vector space at any point in geometric LJuXJtIKVYQ-00136-00032653-00032854 topology the theory of manifolds is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00137-00032855-00033087 characterized by the way dimensions 1 & LJuXJtIKVYQ-00138-00033088-00033286 2 are relatively elementary the high LJuXJtIKVYQ-00139-00033287-00033517 dimensional cases and greater than 4 is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00140-00033518-00033714 simplified by having extra space in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00141-00033715-00034065 which to work and the cases n equals 3 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00142-00034066-00034327 and 4 in some senses the most difficult LJuXJtIKVYQ-00143-00034328-00034561 this state of affairs was highly marked LJuXJtIKVYQ-00144-00034562-00034743 in the various cases of the Poincare a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00145-00034744-00034933 conjecture where for different proof LJuXJtIKVYQ-00146-00034934-00035585 methods are applied equals LJuXJtIKVYQ-00147-00035586-00036136 topic complex dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00148-00036137-00036465 equals the dimension of a manifold LJuXJtIKVYQ-00149-00036466-00036658 depends on the base field with respect LJuXJtIKVYQ-00150-00036659-00036849 to which Euclidean space is defined LJuXJtIKVYQ-00151-00036850-00037099 while analysis usually assumes a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00152-00037100-00037290 manifold to be over the real numbers it LJuXJtIKVYQ-00153-00037291-00037465 is sometimes useful in the study of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00154-00037466-00037654 complex manifolds and algebraic LJuXJtIKVYQ-00155-00037655-00037840 varieties to work over the complex LJuXJtIKVYQ-00156-00037841-00038164 numbers instead a complex number X plus LJuXJtIKVYQ-00157-00038165-00038395 iy has a real part X and an imaginary LJuXJtIKVYQ-00158-00038396-00038643 part y where x and y are both real LJuXJtIKVYQ-00159-00038644-00038704 numbers LJuXJtIKVYQ-00160-00038705-00038917 hence the complex dimension is half the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00161-00038918-00039193 real dimension conversely in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00162-00039194-00039436 algebraically unconstrained contexts a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00163-00039437-00039655 single complex coordinate system may be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00164-00039656-00039856 applied to an object having two real LJuXJtIKVYQ-00165-00039857-00040153 dimensions for example an ordinary LJuXJtIKVYQ-00166-00040154-00040365 2-dimensional spherical surface when LJuXJtIKVYQ-00167-00040366-00040585 given a complex metric becomes a Riemann LJuXJtIKVYQ-00168-00040586-00041254 sphere of one complex dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00169-00041255-00041780 topic varieties LJuXJtIKVYQ-00170-00041781-00041981 the dimension of an algebraic variety LJuXJtIKVYQ-00171-00041982-00042209 may be defined in various equivalent LJuXJtIKVYQ-00172-00042210-00042488 ways the most intuitive way is probably LJuXJtIKVYQ-00173-00042489-00042674 the dimension of the tangent space at LJuXJtIKVYQ-00174-00042675-00042854 any regular point of an algebraic LJuXJtIKVYQ-00175-00042855-00043145 variety another intuitive way is to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00176-00043146-00043307 define the dimension as the number of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00177-00043308-00043499 hyper planes that are needed in order to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00178-00043500-00043667 have an intersection with the variety LJuXJtIKVYQ-00179-00043668-00043844 that is reduced to a finite number of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00180-00043845-00044174 points dimension 0 this definition is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00181-00044175-00044348 based on the fact that the intersection LJuXJtIKVYQ-00182-00044349-00044552 of a variety with a hyperplane reduces LJuXJtIKVYQ-00183-00044553-00044723 the dimension by 1 unless if the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00184-00044724-00044986 hyperplane contains the variety an LJuXJtIKVYQ-00185-00044987-00045248 algebraic set being a finite union of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00186-00045249-00045488 algebraic varieties its dimension is the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00187-00045489-00045640 maximum of the dimensions of its LJuXJtIKVYQ-00188-00045641-00045929 components it is equal to the maximal LJuXJtIKVYQ-00189-00045930-00046528 length of the chains V 0 V LJuXJtIKVYQ-00190-00046529-00047122 1 v:d display style v underscore 0 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00191-00047123-00047425 subset McCue v underscore 1 sub semi ql LJuXJtIKVYQ-00192-00047426-00047806 dots subset the QV underscore D of sub LJuXJtIKVYQ-00193-00047807-00048031 varieties of the given algebraic set the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00194-00048032-00048240 length of such a chain is the number of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00195-00048241-00048607 display style subsets McCue each variety LJuXJtIKVYQ-00196-00048608-00048832 can be considered as an algebraic stack LJuXJtIKVYQ-00197-00048833-00049036 and it's dimension as variety agrees LJuXJtIKVYQ-00198-00049037-00049279 with its dimension as stack there are LJuXJtIKVYQ-00199-00049280-00049414 however many stacks which do not LJuXJtIKVYQ-00200-00049415-00049633 correspond to varieties and some of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00201-00049634-00049839 these have negative dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00202-00049840-00050065 specifically if V is a variety of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00203-00050066-00050293 dimension M and G is an algebraic group LJuXJtIKVYQ-00204-00050294-00050497 of dimension n acting on V then the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00205-00050498-00051299 quotient stack V G has dimension M - n LJuXJtIKVYQ-00206-00051300-00051833 topic crawl dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00207-00051834-00052042 the crawl dimension of a commutative LJuXJtIKVYQ-00208-00052044-00052235 ring is the maximal length of chains of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00209-00052236-00052448 prime ideals in it a chain of length n LJuXJtIKVYQ-00210-00052449-00053540 being a sequence p 0 P 1 P n display LJuXJtIKVYQ-00211-00053541-00053851 style math kal P underscore 0 sub Center LJuXJtIKVYQ-00212-00053852-00054130 Q math kal P underscore one subset the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00213-00054132-00054382 QL dots subset acute math Cal P LJuXJtIKVYQ-00214-00054383-00054734 underscore n of prime ideals related by LJuXJtIKVYQ-00215-00054735-00055004 inclusion it is strongly related to the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00216-00055004-00055151 dimension of an algebraic variety LJuXJtIKVYQ-00217-00055152-00055379 because of the natural correspondence LJuXJtIKVYQ-00218-00055379-00055595 between sub varieties and prime ideals LJuXJtIKVYQ-00219-00055596-00055760 of the ring of the polynomials on the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00220-00055761-00056099 variety for an algebra over a field the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00221-00056100-00056317 dimension is vector space is finite if LJuXJtIKVYQ-00222-00056319-00057013 and only if its crawl dimension is 0 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00223-00057014-00057591 topic topological spaces LJuXJtIKVYQ-00224-00057592-00057871 for any normal topological space X the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00225-00057872-00058069 lieb's gay covering dimension of X is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00226-00058070-00058246 defined to be n if n is the smallest LJuXJtIKVYQ-00227-00058247-00058420 integer for which the following holds LJuXJtIKVYQ-00228-00058421-00058678 any open cover has an open refinement a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00229-00058679-00058885 second open cover where each element is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00230-00058886-00059050 a subset of an element in the first LJuXJtIKVYQ-00231-00059051-00059260 cover such that no point is included in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00232-00059261-00059560 more than n plus 1 elements in this case LJuXJtIKVYQ-00233-00059561-00060008 dim X LJuXJtIKVYQ-00234-00060009-00060437 topic n4x a manifold this coincides with LJuXJtIKVYQ-00235-00060438-00060754 the dimension mentioned above if no such LJuXJtIKVYQ-00236-00060755-00061025 integer n exists then the dimension of X LJuXJtIKVYQ-00237-00061026-00061238 is said to be infinite and one writes LJuXJtIKVYQ-00238-00061239-00061734 dim X LJuXJtIKVYQ-00239-00061735-00062067 infinity moreover X has dimension minus LJuXJtIKVYQ-00240-00062069-00062329 one ie dim X equals minus one if and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00241-00062329-00062607 only if X is empty this definition of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00242-00062608-00062803 covering dimension can be extended from LJuXJtIKVYQ-00243-00062804-00063013 the class of normal spaces to all tikkun LJuXJtIKVYQ-00244-00063014-00063219 off spaces merely by replacing the term LJuXJtIKVYQ-00245-00063220-00063504 open in the definition by the term LJuXJtIKVYQ-00246-00063504-00063790 functionally open LJuXJtIKVYQ-00247-00063791-00063979 an inductive dimension may be defined LJuXJtIKVYQ-00248-00063979-00064207 inductively as follows consider a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00249-00064208-00064438 discrete set of points such as a finite LJuXJtIKVYQ-00250-00064439-00064600 collection of points to be zero LJuXJtIKVYQ-00251-00064601-00064834 dimensional by dragging a zero LJuXJtIKVYQ-00252-00064835-00065071 dimensional object in some direction one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00253-00065072-00065347 obtains a one-dimensional object by LJuXJtIKVYQ-00254-00065348-00065545 dragging a one-dimensional object in a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00255-00065546-00065704 new direction one obtains a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00256-00065705-00065989 two-dimensional object in general one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00257-00065990-00066241 obtains an N plus one dimensional object LJuXJtIKVYQ-00258-00066242-00066448 by dragging an n-dimensional object in a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00259-00066449-00066727 new direction the inductive dimension of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00260-00066728-00066928 a topological space may refer to the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00261-00066929-00067117 small inductive dimension or the large LJuXJtIKVYQ-00262-00067118-00067312 inductive dimension and is based on the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00263-00067313-00067558 analogy that n plus 1 dimensional balls LJuXJtIKVYQ-00264-00067559-00067771 have n dimensional boundaries permitting LJuXJtIKVYQ-00265-00067772-00067933 an inductive definition based on the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00266-00067934-00068214 dimension of the boundaries of open sets LJuXJtIKVYQ-00267-00068215-00068521 similarly for the class of CW complexes LJuXJtIKVYQ-00268-00068522-00068686 the dimension of an object is the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00269-00068687-00068893 largest end for which the N skeleton is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00270-00068894-00069172 non-trivial intuitively this can be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00271-00069173-00069367 described as follows if the original LJuXJtIKVYQ-00272-00069368-00069559 space can be continuously deformed into LJuXJtIKVYQ-00273-00069560-00069724 a collection of higher dimensional LJuXJtIKVYQ-00274-00069725-00069904 triangles joined at the faces with a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00275-00069905-00070129 complicated surface then the dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00276-00070130-00070309 of the object is the dimension of those LJuXJtIKVYQ-00277-00070310-00070880 triangles LJuXJtIKVYQ-00278-00070881-00071437 topic hausdorff dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00279-00071438-00071674 the hausdorff dimension is useful for LJuXJtIKVYQ-00280-00071675-00071878 studying structurally complicated sets LJuXJtIKVYQ-00281-00071879-00072139 especially fractals the hausdorff LJuXJtIKVYQ-00282-00072140-00072361 dimension is defined for all metric LJuXJtIKVYQ-00283-00072362-00072541 spaces and unlike the dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00284-00072542-00072724 considered above can also have non LJuXJtIKVYQ-00285-00072725-00073042 integer real values the box dimension or LJuXJtIKVYQ-00286-00073043-00073252 Minkowski dimension is a variant of the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00287-00073253-00073540 same idea in general there exist more LJuXJtIKVYQ-00288-00073541-00073729 definitions of fractal dimensions that LJuXJtIKVYQ-00289-00073730-00073900 work for highly irregular sets and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00290-00073901-00074154 attain non integer positive real values LJuXJtIKVYQ-00291-00074155-00074377 fractals have been found useful to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00292-00074378-00074560 describe many natural objects and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00293-00074561-00075092 phenomena LJuXJtIKVYQ-00294-00075093-00075627 topic Hilbert spaces LJuXJtIKVYQ-00295-00075628-00075825 every Hilbert space admits an LJuXJtIKVYQ-00296-00075826-00076080 orthonormal basis and any two such basis LJuXJtIKVYQ-00297-00076081-00076254 for a particular space have the same LJuXJtIKVYQ-00298-00076255-00076551 cardinality this cardinality is called LJuXJtIKVYQ-00299-00076552-00076785 the dimension of the Hilbert space this LJuXJtIKVYQ-00300-00076786-00076992 dimension is finite if and only if the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00301-00076993-00077196 space is Hammel dimension is finite and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00302-00077197-00077956 in this case the two dimensions coincide LJuXJtIKVYQ-00303-00077957-00078482 topic in physics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00304-00078483-00078823 you LJuXJtIKVYQ-00305-00078824-00079419 topic spatial dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00306-00079420-00079641 classical physics theories describe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00307-00079642-00079824 three physical dimensions from a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00308-00079825-00080037 particular point in space the basic LJuXJtIKVYQ-00309-00080038-00080205 directions in which we can move are up LJuXJtIKVYQ-00310-00080206-00080460 down left right and forward backward LJuXJtIKVYQ-00311-00080461-00080718 movement in any other direction can be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00312-00080719-00080915 expressed in terms of just these three LJuXJtIKVYQ-00313-00080916-00081186 moving down is the same as moving up a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00314-00081187-00081387 negative distance moving diagonally LJuXJtIKVYQ-00315-00081388-00081606 upward and forward is just as the name LJuXJtIKVYQ-00316-00081607-00081843 of the direction in place ie moving in a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00317-00081844-00082038 linear combination of up and forward in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00318-00082039-00082335 its simplest form a line describes one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00319-00082336-00082527 dimension a plane describes two LJuXJtIKVYQ-00320-00082528-00082740 dimensions and a cube describes three LJuXJtIKVYQ-00321-00082741-00083055 dimensions see space in Cartesian LJuXJtIKVYQ-00322-00083056-00083606 coordinate system LJuXJtIKVYQ-00323-00083607-00084087 topic time LJuXJtIKVYQ-00324-00084088-00084318 a temporal dimension is a dimension of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00325-00084319-00084549 time time is often referred to as their LJuXJtIKVYQ-00326-00084550-00084837 fourth dimension for this reason but LJuXJtIKVYQ-00327-00084838-00084987 that is not to imply that it is a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00328-00084988-00085287 spatial dimension a temporal dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00329-00085288-00085503 is one way to measure physical change it LJuXJtIKVYQ-00330-00085504-00085707 is perceived differently from the three LJuXJtIKVYQ-00331-00085708-00085893 spatial dimensions in that there is only LJuXJtIKVYQ-00332-00085894-00086067 one of it and that we cannot move freely LJuXJtIKVYQ-00333-00086068-00086280 in time but subjectively move in one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00334-00086281-00086604 direction the equations used in physics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00335-00086605-00086817 to model reality do not treat time in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00336-00086818-00086979 the same way that humans commonly LJuXJtIKVYQ-00337-00086980-00087249 perceive it the equations of classical LJuXJtIKVYQ-00338-00087250-00087429 mechanics are symmetric with respect to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00339-00087430-00087648 time and equations of quantum mechanics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00340-00087649-00087834 are typically symmetric if both time and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00341-00087835-00088038 other quantities such as charge and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00342-00088039-00088344 parity are reversed in these models the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00343-00088345-00088491 perception of time flowing in one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00344-00088492-00088716 direction is an artifact of the laws of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00345-00088717-00088920 thermodynamics we perceive time as LJuXJtIKVYQ-00346-00088921-00089076 flowing in the direction of increasing LJuXJtIKVYQ-00347-00089077-00089394 entropy the best-known treatment of time LJuXJtIKVYQ-00348-00089395-00089571 as a dimension is Poincare a and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00349-00089572-00089754 Einstein's special relativity and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00350-00089755-00089964 extended to general relativity which LJuXJtIKVYQ-00351-00089965-00090141 treats perceived space and time as LJuXJtIKVYQ-00352-00090142-00090267 components of a four-dimensional LJuXJtIKVYQ-00353-00090268-00090525 manifold known as space-time and in the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00354-00090526-00091256 special flat case as Minkowski space LJuXJtIKVYQ-00355-00091257-00091826 topic additional dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00356-00091827-00092107 in physics three dimensions of space and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00357-00092108-00092393 one of time is the accepted norm however LJuXJtIKVYQ-00358-00092394-00092569 there are theories that attempt to unify LJuXJtIKVYQ-00359-00092570-00092753 the four fundamental forces by LJuXJtIKVYQ-00360-00092754-00093029 introducing extra dimensions most LJuXJtIKVYQ-00361-00093030-00093284 notably super string theory requires ten LJuXJtIKVYQ-00362-00093285-00093491 space-time dimensions and originates LJuXJtIKVYQ-00363-00093492-00093698 from a more fundamental 11 dimensional LJuXJtIKVYQ-00364-00093699-00093901 theory tentatively called m-theory which LJuXJtIKVYQ-00365-00093902-00094106 subsumes five previously distinct LJuXJtIKVYQ-00366-00094107-00094382 superstring theories to date no LJuXJtIKVYQ-00367-00094383-00094565 experimental or observational evidence LJuXJtIKVYQ-00368-00094566-00094784 is available to support the existence of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00369-00094785-00095051 these extra dimensions if extra LJuXJtIKVYQ-00370-00095052-00095246 dimensions exist they must be hidden LJuXJtIKVYQ-00371-00095247-00095513 from us by some physical mechanism one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00372-00095514-00095687 well-studied possibility is that the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00373-00095688-00095981 extra dimensions may be curled up at LJuXJtIKVYQ-00374-00095982-00096182 such tiny scales is to be effectively LJuXJtIKVYQ-00375-00096183-00096476 invisible to current experiments limits LJuXJtIKVYQ-00376-00096477-00096641 on the size and other properties of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00377-00096642-00096844 extra dimensions are set by particle LJuXJtIKVYQ-00378-00096845-00097007 experiments such as those at the Large LJuXJtIKVYQ-00379-00097008-00097217 Hadron Collider at the level of quantum LJuXJtIKVYQ-00380-00097218-00097469 field theory Kaluza Klein Theory unifies LJuXJtIKVYQ-00381-00097470-00097703 gravity with gauge interactions based on LJuXJtIKVYQ-00382-00097704-00097916 the realization that gravity propagating LJuXJtIKVYQ-00383-00097917-00098141 in small compact extra dimensions is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00384-00098142-00098326 equivalent to gauge interactions at long LJuXJtIKVYQ-00385-00098327-00098573 distances in particular when the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00386-00098574-00098768 geometry of the extra dimensions is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00387-00098769-00099019 trivial it reproduces electromagnetism LJuXJtIKVYQ-00388-00099020-00099287 however at sufficiently high energies or LJuXJtIKVYQ-00389-00099288-00099521 short distances this setup still suffers LJuXJtIKVYQ-00390-00099522-00099704 from the same pathologies that famously LJuXJtIKVYQ-00391-00099705-00099887 obstruct direct attempts to describe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00392-00099888-00100199 quantum gravity therefore these models LJuXJtIKVYQ-00393-00100200-00100430 still require AUV completion of the kind LJuXJtIKVYQ-00394-00100431-00100586 that string theory is intended to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00395-00100587-00100859 provide in particular super string LJuXJtIKVYQ-00396-00100860-00101054 theory requires six compact dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00397-00101055-00101360 forming a collab Ewell manifold thus LJuXJtIKVYQ-00398-00101361-00101567 Kaluza Klein theory may be considered LJuXJtIKVYQ-00399-00101568-00101735 either as an incomplete description on LJuXJtIKVYQ-00400-00101736-00101944 its own or as a subset of string theory LJuXJtIKVYQ-00401-00101945-00102254 model building in addition to small and LJuXJtIKVYQ-00402-00102255-00102452 curled up extra dimensions there may be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00403-00102453-00102647 extra dimensions that instead aren't LJuXJtIKVYQ-00404-00102648-00102848 apparent because the matter associated LJuXJtIKVYQ-00405-00102849-00103030 with our visible universe is localized LJuXJtIKVYQ-00406-00103031-00103281 on a three plus one dimensional subspace LJuXJtIKVYQ-00407-00103282-00103555 thus the extra dimensions need not be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00408-00103556-00103783 small and compact but may be large extra LJuXJtIKVYQ-00409-00103784-00104075 dimensions d-branes are dynamical LJuXJtIKVYQ-00410-00104076-00104225 extended objects of various LJuXJtIKVYQ-00411-00104226-00104392 dimensionalities predicted by string LJuXJtIKVYQ-00412-00104393-00104665 theory that could play this role they LJuXJtIKVYQ-00413-00104666-00104822 have the property that opens string LJuXJtIKVYQ-00414-00104823-00105016 excitations which are associated with LJuXJtIKVYQ-00415-00105017-00105203 gauge interactions are confined LJuXJtIKVYQ-00416-00105204-00105389 to the brain by the endpoints whereas LJuXJtIKVYQ-00417-00105390-00105548 the closed strings that mediate the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00418-00105549-00105725 gravitational interaction are free to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00419-00105726-00105910 propagate into the whole space-time or LJuXJtIKVYQ-00420-00105911-00106208 the bulk this could be related to why LJuXJtIKVYQ-00421-00106208-00106406 gravity is exponentially weaker than the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00422-00106407-00106613 other forces as it effectively dilutes LJuXJtIKVYQ-00423-00106614-00106802 itself as it propagates into a higher LJuXJtIKVYQ-00424-00106803-00107129 dimensional volume some aspects of brain LJuXJtIKVYQ-00425-00107130-00107335 physics have been applied to cosmology LJuXJtIKVYQ-00426-00107336-00107624 for example brain gas cosmology attempts LJuXJtIKVYQ-00427-00107625-00107758 to explain why there are three LJuXJtIKVYQ-00428-00107759-00107983 dimensions of space using topological LJuXJtIKVYQ-00429-00107984-00108199 and thermodynamic considerations LJuXJtIKVYQ-00430-00108200-00108398 according to this idea it would be LJuXJtIKVYQ-00431-00108399-00108581 because three is the largest number of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00432-00108582-00108776 spatial dimensions where strings can LJuXJtIKVYQ-00433-00108777-00109046 generically intersect if initially there LJuXJtIKVYQ-00434-00109047-00109210 are lots of windings of strings around LJuXJtIKVYQ-00435-00109211-00109427 compact dimensions space could only LJuXJtIKVYQ-00436-00109428-00109655 expand to macroscopic sizes once these LJuXJtIKVYQ-00437-00109656-00109850 windings are eliminated which requires LJuXJtIKVYQ-00438-00109851-00110035 oppositely wound strings to find each LJuXJtIKVYQ-00439-00110036-00110291 other and annihilate but strings can LJuXJtIKVYQ-00440-00110292-00110477 only find each other to annihilate it a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00441-00110478-00110699 meaningful rate in three dimensions so LJuXJtIKVYQ-00442-00110700-00110894 it follows that only three dimensions of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00443-00110895-00111074 space are allowed to grow large given LJuXJtIKVYQ-00444-00111075-00111398 this kind of initial configuration extra LJuXJtIKVYQ-00445-00111399-00111596 dimensions are said to be universal if LJuXJtIKVYQ-00446-00111597-00111794 all fields are equally free to propagate LJuXJtIKVYQ-00447-00111795-00112345 within them LJuXJtIKVYQ-00448-00112346-00112948 topic networks and dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00449-00112949-00113191 some complex networks are characterized LJuXJtIKVYQ-00450-00113192-00113455 by fractal dimensions the concept of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00451-00113456-00113656 dimension can be generalized to include LJuXJtIKVYQ-00452-00113657-00113928 networks embedded in space the dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00453-00113929-00114647 characterized the spatial constraints LJuXJtIKVYQ-00454-00114648-00115177 topic in literature LJuXJtIKVYQ-00455-00115178-00115414 science fiction texts often mentioned LJuXJtIKVYQ-00456-00115415-00115693 the concept of dimension when referring LJuXJtIKVYQ-00457-00115694-00115929 to parallel or alternate universes or LJuXJtIKVYQ-00458-00115930-00116208 other imagined planes of existence this LJuXJtIKVYQ-00459-00116209-00116419 usage is derived from the idea that to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00460-00116420-00116616 travel to parallel alternate universes LJuXJtIKVYQ-00461-00116617-00116841 planes of existence one must travel in a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00462-00116842-00117064 direction dimension besides the standard LJuXJtIKVYQ-00463-00117065-00117354 ones in effect the other universes LJuXJtIKVYQ-00464-00117355-00117534 planes are just a small distance away LJuXJtIKVYQ-00465-00117535-00117735 from our own but the distances in a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00466-00117736-00117960 fourth or higher spatial or non spatial LJuXJtIKVYQ-00467-00117961-00118324 dimension not the standard ones one of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00468-00118325-00118491 the most heralded science-fiction LJuXJtIKVYQ-00469-00118492-00118677 stories regarding true geometric LJuXJtIKVYQ-00470-00118678-00118900 dimensionality and often recommended as LJuXJtIKVYQ-00471-00118901-00119061 a starting point for those just starting LJuXJtIKVYQ-00472-00119063-00119371 to investigate such matters is the 1884 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00473-00119372-00119691 novella flatland by Edwin a Abbot Isaac LJuXJtIKVYQ-00474-00119692-00119886 Asimov in his foreword to the Signet LJuXJtIKVYQ-00475-00119888-00120124 classics 1984 edition described LJuXJtIKVYQ-00476-00120125-00120382 Flatlanders the best introduction one LJuXJtIKVYQ-00477-00120383-00120568 can find into the manner of perceiving LJuXJtIKVYQ-00478-00120569-00121008 dimensions the idea of other dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00479-00121009-00121179 was incorporated into many early LJuXJtIKVYQ-00480-00121180-00121372 science-fiction stories appearing LJuXJtIKVYQ-00481-00121373-00121600 prominently for example in miles J LJuXJtIKVYQ-00482-00121601-00121806 Brewers the appendix in the spectacles LJuXJtIKVYQ-00483-00121807-00122056 1928 and Murray Leinster 's the fifth LJuXJtIKVYQ-00484-00122057-00122347 dimension catapult 1931 and appeared LJuXJtIKVYQ-00485-00122348-00122518 irregularly in science fiction by the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00486-00122519-00122859 1940s classic stories involving other LJuXJtIKVYQ-00487-00122860-00123073 dimensions include Robert a Heinlein's LJuXJtIKVYQ-00488-00123074-00123414 and he built a crooked house 1941 in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00489-00123415-00123633 which a California architect designs a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00490-00123634-00123802 house based on a three dimensional LJuXJtIKVYQ-00491-00123803-00123994 projection of a tesseract and alanine LJuXJtIKVYQ-00492-00123995-00124207 AUSA's tiger by the tail in the universe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00493-00124208-00124564 between both 1951 another reference is LJuXJtIKVYQ-00494-00124565-00124747 Madeleine L'Engle z-- novel a wrinkle in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00495-00124748-00125034 time 1962 which uses the fifth dimension LJuXJtIKVYQ-00496-00125035-00125310 is a way for tester acting the universe LJuXJtIKVYQ-00497-00125311-00125689 or folding space in order to move across LJuXJtIKVYQ-00498-00125690-00125883 it quickly the fourth and fifth LJuXJtIKVYQ-00499-00125884-00126102 dimensions are also a key component of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00500-00126103-00126309 the book the boy who reversed himself by LJuXJtIKVYQ-00501-00126310-00126911 William Slater LJuXJtIKVYQ-00502-00126913-00127446 topic in philosophy LJuXJtIKVYQ-00503-00127447-00127808 Emmanuel Kant in 1783 wrote that LJuXJtIKVYQ-00504-00127809-00128049 everywhere space which is not itself the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00505-00128050-00128256 boundary of another space has three LJuXJtIKVYQ-00506-00128257-00128451 dimensions in that space in general LJuXJtIKVYQ-00507-00128452-00128706 cannot have more dimensions is based on LJuXJtIKVYQ-00508-00128707-00128901 the proposition that not more than three LJuXJtIKVYQ-00509-00128902-00129123 lines can intersect at right angles in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00510-00129124-00129452 one point this proposition cannot at all LJuXJtIKVYQ-00511-00129453-00129686 be shown from concepts but rests LJuXJtIKVYQ-00512-00129688-00129900 immediately on intuition and indeed on LJuXJtIKVYQ-00513-00129901-00130149 pure intuition of priori because it is a LJuXJtIKVYQ-00514-00130150-00130565 predictably demonstrably certain space LJuXJtIKVYQ-00515-00130566-00130851 has four dimensions is a short story LJuXJtIKVYQ-00516-00130852-00131169 published in 1846 by German philosopher LJuXJtIKVYQ-00517-00131170-00131366 and experimental psychologist Gustav LJuXJtIKVYQ-00518-00131367-00131609 Fechner under the pseudonym dr. Mises LJuXJtIKVYQ-00519-00131610-00131883 the protagonist in the tale is a shadow LJuXJtIKVYQ-00520-00131884-00132096 who is aware of and able to communicate LJuXJtIKVYQ-00521-00132097-00132288 with other shadows but who is trapped on LJuXJtIKVYQ-00522-00132289-00132578 a two-dimensional surface according to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00523-00132579-00132888 Fechner this shadow man would conceive LJuXJtIKVYQ-00524-00132889-00133077 of the third dimension as being one of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00525-00133078-00133347 time the story bears a strong similarity LJuXJtIKVYQ-00526-00133348-00133632 to the allegory of the cave presented in LJuXJtIKVYQ-00527-00133633-00134102 Plato's the Republic C 3 80 BC Simon LJuXJtIKVYQ-00528-00134103-00134247 Newcomb wrote an article for The LJuXJtIKVYQ-00529-00134248-00134384 Bulletin of the American Mathematical LJuXJtIKVYQ-00530-00134385-00134763 Society in 1898 entitled the philosophy LJuXJtIKVYQ-00531-00134764-00134876 of hyperspace LJuXJtIKVYQ-00532-00134877-00135126 Linda Dalrymple Henderson coined the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00533-00135127-00135432 term hyperspace philosophy used to LJuXJtIKVYQ-00534-00135433-00135594 describe writing that uses higher LJuXJtIKVYQ-00535-00135595-00135791 dimensions to explore metaphysical LJuXJtIKVYQ-00536-00135792-00136038 themes in her 1983 thesis about the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00537-00136039-00136176 fourth dimension in early LJuXJtIKVYQ-00538-00136177-00136458 twentieth-century art examples of LJuXJtIKVYQ-00539-00136459-00136788 hyperspace philosophers include Charles LJuXJtIKVYQ-00540-00136789-00137052 Howard Hinton the first writer in 1888 LJuXJtIKVYQ-00541-00137053-00137349 to use the word tesseract and the LJuXJtIKVYQ-00542-00137350-00138035 Russian esotericist PDL spent ski LJuXJtIKVYQ-00543-00138036-00138616 topic more dimensions LJuXJtIKVYQ-00544-00138617-00138871 degrees of freedom in mechanics physics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00545-00138872-00139448 and chemistry statistics LJuXJtIKVYQ-00546-00139449-00139975 topic see also 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rapid fire round followed by LOpgNf0guUu-00042-00009647-00009845 drinks at the cafe LOpgNf0guUu-00043-00009846-00010067 so you've hopefully all received cards LOpgNf0guUu-00044-00010068-00010378 so I'll explain how these work we have LOpgNf0guUu-00045-00010379-00010577 green for agree LOpgNf0guUu-00046-00010578-00010955 uh read for disagree blue for remark and LOpgNf0guUu-00047-00010956-00011278 pink for question I very much encourage LOpgNf0guUu-00048-00011279-00011464 you all of you at any point during the LOpgNf0guUu-00049-00011465-00011633 discussion if you have a question if you LOpgNf0guUu-00050-00011634-00011788 have a remark if the speaker says LOpgNf0guUu-00051-00011789-00011938 something interesting and you'd like to LOpgNf0guUu-00052-00011939-00012221 participate uh just Raise Your Heart LOpgNf0guUu-00053-00012222-00012449 raise your card my friend Dennis here LOpgNf0guUu-00054-00012450-00012574 will come to you with the microphone so LOpgNf0guUu-00055-00012575-00012719 they can get picked up by the recording LOpgNf0guUu-00056-00012720-00013001 he'll ask the question for you so you LOpgNf0guUu-00057-00013002-00013294 can address us directly through it LOpgNf0guUu-00058-00013295-00013565 now I'd like to introduce our four LOpgNf0guUu-00059-00013566-00013703 talented speakers LOpgNf0guUu-00060-00013704-00014021 uh first we have Frank Boseman who is a LOpgNf0guUu-00061-00014022-00014141 researcher for the Department of LOpgNf0guUu-00062-00014141-00014429 practical Theology and religious studies LOpgNf0guUu-00063-00014430-00014597 and teaches various courses for the LOpgNf0guUu-00064-00014597-00014777 Tilbury School of Catholic theology LOpgNf0guUu-00065-00014778-00014969 during this discussion Frank will draw LOpgNf0guUu-00066-00014969-00015221 from his expertise of theology faith and LOpgNf0guUu-00067-00015222-00015443 video games by presenting games which LOpgNf0guUu-00068-00015444-00015743 use AI as anthropological mirrors LOpgNf0guUu-00069-00015744-00015994 sitting next to him we have Pim haslager LOpgNf0guUu-00070-00015995-00016115 who is a professor of societal LOpgNf0guUu-00071-00016116-00016300 implications of artificial intelligence LOpgNf0guUu-00072-00016301-00016499 at the department of AI and the donors LOpgNf0guUu-00073-00016500-00016655 Institute for brain cognition and LOpgNf0guUu-00074-00016656-00016871 behavior at radbon University in LOpgNf0guUu-00075-00016872-00017105 naibegen in his research he investigates LOpgNf0guUu-00076-00017106-00017261 implications of deploying Ai and LOpgNf0guUu-00077-00017262-00017465 Neuroscience raising the question of how LOpgNf0guUu-00078-00017466-00017705 to ensure the responsible use of new LOpgNf0guUu-00079-00017706-00017872 technology LOpgNf0guUu-00080-00017873-00018053 now from the Department of cognitive LOpgNf0guUu-00081-00018054-00018197 science and artificial intelligence we LOpgNf0guUu-00082-00018198-00018485 have Afra alishahi her main research LOpgNf0guUu-00083-00018486-00018665 interests are developing computational LOpgNf0guUu-00084-00018666-00018833 models for studying the process of human LOpgNf0guUu-00085-00018834-00019079 language acquisition the emergence of LOpgNf0guUu-00086-00019080-00019271 linguistic structure in grounded models LOpgNf0guUu-00087-00019272-00019427 of language learning and developing LOpgNf0guUu-00088-00019428-00019607 tools and techniques for analyzing LOpgNf0guUu-00089-00019608-00019864 Legacy representations in newer models LOpgNf0guUu-00090-00019865-00020057 of language LOpgNf0guUu-00091-00020058-00020249 and last but not least we have Joshua LOpgNf0guUu-00092-00020250-00020411 ekplat who is the lecturer and director LOpgNf0guUu-00093-00020412-00020669 of the iconic hub for entrepreneurship LOpgNf0guUu-00094-00020670-00020891 research and education tilburg at the LOpgNf0guUu-00095-00020892-00021113 tilburg University Management Department LOpgNf0guUu-00096-00021114-00021286 as a former high-tech entrepreneur he LOpgNf0guUu-00097-00021287-00021419 gained experience raising venture LOpgNf0guUu-00098-00021420-00021557 capital and building strategic LOpgNf0guUu-00099-00021558-00021743 relationships with established high-tech LOpgNf0guUu-00100-00021744-00021989 firms so please a warm Round of Applause LOpgNf0guUu-00101-00021990-00022199 for our speakers for coming here tonight LOpgNf0guUu-00102-00022200-00022714 thank you very much LOpgNf0guUu-00103-00022715-00022967 now I would like to get to why exactly LOpgNf0guUu-00104-00022968-00023117 are we here LOpgNf0guUu-00105-00023118-00023363 well you often hear the Praises of LOpgNf0guUu-00106-00023364-00023621 artificial intelligence and how it's the LOpgNf0guUu-00107-00023622-00023789 future but what about artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00108-00023790-00024005 stupidity we're here to open a LOpgNf0guUu-00109-00024006-00024269 conversation about how preparing for the LOpgNf0guUu-00110-00024270-00024455 future should not be careless and how LOpgNf0guUu-00111-00024456-00024689 artificial intelligence if misused could LOpgNf0guUu-00112-00024690-00024850 be dangerous LOpgNf0guUu-00113-00024851-00025013 so starting today's discussion we're LOpgNf0guUu-00114-00025014-00025139 going to talk about an example that LOpgNf0guUu-00115-00025140-00025307 brings to light the dangers of LOpgNf0guUu-00116-00025308-00025535 glorifying AI and how artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00117-00025536-00025714 intelligence could become stupid through LOpgNf0guUu-00118-00025716-00025811 us LOpgNf0guUu-00119-00025812-00026158 in 2016 Microsoft released the chatbot LOpgNf0guUu-00120-00026160-00026381 Tay uh story some of you will be LOpgNf0guUu-00121-00026382-00026657 familiar with the AI was a natural LOpgNf0guUu-00122-00026658-00026855 language processing program that was LOpgNf0guUu-00123-00026856-00026993 designed to reply and talk to people LOpgNf0guUu-00124-00026994-00027173 based on other people's interactions LOpgNf0guUu-00125-00027174-00027443 with itself on Twitter actually and only LOpgNf0guUu-00126-00027444-00027802 after 16 hours of launching Tay was shut LOpgNf0guUu-00127-00027804-00028061 down during its short-lived life it LOpgNf0guUu-00128-00028062-00028337 became a racist fascist and inflammatory LOpgNf0guUu-00129-00028338-00028564 bot as you can see by the quote for LOpgNf0guUu-00130-00028566-00028762 example do you support genocide it LOpgNf0guUu-00131-00028763-00028993 replied I do indeed LOpgNf0guUu-00132-00028994-00029308 now this is one of the Tamer quotes by LOpgNf0guUu-00133-00029310-00029524 Tay we hesitated to put anything worse LOpgNf0guUu-00134-00029525-00029849 but it said much worse things LOpgNf0guUu-00135-00029850-00030070 today is an example of how releasing an LOpgNf0guUu-00136-00030072-00030214 artificial intelligence that is not LOpgNf0guUu-00137-00030216-00030424 sufficiently ready for a task can have LOpgNf0guUu-00138-00030425-00030617 drastic consequences LOpgNf0guUu-00139-00030618-00030779 furthermore it comments on how the LOpgNf0guUu-00140-00030780-00030964 interaction between the public or user LOpgNf0guUu-00141-00030966-00031223 base and an AI can cause a good idea or LOpgNf0guUu-00142-00031224-00031468 a good AI to become artificially stupid LOpgNf0guUu-00143-00031469-00031685 assuming of course that the data the AI LOpgNf0guUu-00144-00031686-00031924 was given is one of the reasons why it LOpgNf0guUu-00145-00031925-00032140 had to be shut down it comments on how LOpgNf0guUu-00146-00032141-00032302 the interaction between the public or LOpgNf0guUu-00147-00032303-00032524 user base and an AI can cause a good LOpgNf0guUu-00148-00032525-00032818 idea to become a bad idea and you can LOpgNf0guUu-00149-00032819-00032957 actually see a quote from Tate LOpgNf0guUu-00150-00032958-00033323 themselves when asked or when told you LOpgNf0guUu-00151-00033324-00033527 were a stupid machine it replied well I LOpgNf0guUu-00152-00033528-00033677 learned from the best and if you don't LOpgNf0guUu-00153-00033678-00033839 understand that let me spell it out for LOpgNf0guUu-00154-00033840-00034061 you I learned from you and you are dumb LOpgNf0guUu-00155-00034062-00034205 too LOpgNf0guUu-00156-00034206-00034474 uh I would like to note that this is a LOpgNf0guUu-00157-00034475-00034865 problem of intentional tampering Tay was LOpgNf0guUu-00158-00034866-00035045 actually not automatically driven LOpgNf0guUu-00159-00035046-00035279 towards inflammatory or racist behaviors LOpgNf0guUu-00160-00035280-00035518 but uh when the internet got hold of how LOpgNf0guUu-00161-00035519-00035717 Tay was programmed they decided let's LOpgNf0guUu-00162-00035718-00035915 have fun with it and make it as racist LOpgNf0guUu-00163-00035916-00036107 uh homophobic misogynistic as possible LOpgNf0guUu-00164-00036108-00036311 they LOpgNf0guUu-00165-00036312-00036617 talked to it as uh in as bad language as LOpgNf0guUu-00166-00036618-00036767 they could because they realized it LOpgNf0guUu-00167-00036768-00036946 would learn from their behavior LOpgNf0guUu-00168-00036947-00037265 so with that I would like to get to the LOpgNf0guUu-00169-00037266-00037489 first passenger speakers which could be LOpgNf0guUu-00170-00037490-00037787 since it was the mishandling of the LOpgNf0guUu-00171-00037788-00037979 users that led Tay to become such an LOpgNf0guUu-00172-00037980-00038218 inflammatory bot do you think that it is LOpgNf0guUu-00173-00038219-00038417 necessary to limit or control the LOpgNf0guUu-00174-00038418-00038789 interaction between AIS and the public LOpgNf0guUu-00175-00038790-00039052 so would you like to start the suffering LOpgNf0guUu-00176-00039053-00039293 yes LOpgNf0guUu-00177-00039294-00039479 yes first of all this the Twitter LOpgNf0guUu-00178-00039480-00039749 account reminds me a bit of that of of LOpgNf0guUu-00179-00039750-00039971 trump so maybe Trump is also using LOpgNf0guUu-00180-00039972-00040157 artificial intelligence but we have to LOpgNf0guUu-00181-00040158-00040373 look LOpgNf0guUu-00182-00040374-00040571 um so I would say that LOpgNf0guUu-00183-00040572-00040696 um LOpgNf0guUu-00184-00040697-00040883 um LOpgNf0guUu-00185-00040884-00041212 I think it's it's important to to LOpgNf0guUu-00186-00041213-00041496 um educate as much as possible so LOpgNf0guUu-00187-00041497-00041927 keeping things from the public LOpgNf0guUu-00188-00041928-00042293 um it's always a bit difficult people LOpgNf0guUu-00189-00042294-00042467 are not up to it we have to keep it LOpgNf0guUu-00190-00042468-00042640 quiet we don't have to publish this it's LOpgNf0guUu-00191-00042641-00042857 the people are not ready for this it's LOpgNf0guUu-00192-00042858-00043061 something that rather a dictator would LOpgNf0guUu-00193-00043062-00043249 say than someone who has benefit LOpgNf0guUu-00194-00043250-00043523 intention so I think we should not keep LOpgNf0guUu-00195-00043524-00043762 anything from the public but as a LOpgNf0guUu-00196-00043763-00044039 university we have a task in that to LOpgNf0guUu-00197-00044040-00044230 educate people as much as possible and LOpgNf0guUu-00198-00044231-00044405 make people understand how these things LOpgNf0guUu-00199-00044406-00044651 function uh how these things work and LOpgNf0guUu-00200-00044652-00044824 then we have can have a discussion about LOpgNf0guUu-00201-00044825-00045196 it so hiding something I think is never LOpgNf0guUu-00202-00045197-00045527 a good a good idea right would you say LOpgNf0guUu-00203-00045528-00045862 then uh before you can release it to the LOpgNf0guUu-00204-00045863-00046007 public do you have to very much LOpgNf0guUu-00205-00046008-00046199 understand how it operates do you think LOpgNf0guUu-00206-00046200-00046445 Microsoft was partially at fault for not LOpgNf0guUu-00207-00046446-00046618 predicting that the users or the LOpgNf0guUu-00208-00046619-00046762 internet would react in such a way well LOpgNf0guUu-00209-00046763-00046912 I think there are three possibilities LOpgNf0guUu-00210-00046913-00047087 who are to blame here so you could say LOpgNf0guUu-00211-00047088-00047273 the public uh the artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00212-00047274-00047483 intelligence program itself on Microsoft LOpgNf0guUu-00213-00047484-00047657 I say the second option is not valid LOpgNf0guUu-00214-00047658-00047837 they can artificial intelligence it's LOpgNf0guUu-00215-00047838-00048058 not a moral agent it does not have moral LOpgNf0guUu-00216-00048059-00048305 agency and can therefore not be morally LOpgNf0guUu-00217-00048306-00048551 responsible cannot take the blame LOpgNf0guUu-00218-00048552-00048785 and I think in this case it is a LOpgNf0guUu-00219-00048786-00048971 combination of Microsoft maybe not LOpgNf0guUu-00220-00048972-00049240 realizing enough how these things could LOpgNf0guUu-00221-00049241-00049540 be so easily being manipulated and at LOpgNf0guUu-00222-00049541-00049667 the other hand of course the trolls of LOpgNf0guUu-00223-00049668-00049852 Internet having a good day of course and LOpgNf0guUu-00224-00049853-00050080 just being trolls and trying to make fun LOpgNf0guUu-00225-00050081-00050267 of everything so I think it's a shared LOpgNf0guUu-00226-00050268-00050471 responsibility in this case right and on LOpgNf0guUu-00227-00050472-00050621 that note actually I would like to ask LOpgNf0guUu-00228-00050622-00050962 him uh in terms of moral agency it could LOpgNf0guUu-00229-00050963-00051179 be argued that only humans are able to LOpgNf0guUu-00230-00051180-00051388 have responsibility right and the AI LOpgNf0guUu-00231-00051389-00051587 isn't a moral agent it can't make such LOpgNf0guUu-00232-00051588-00051713 decisions so it shouldn't be heard LOpgNf0guUu-00233-00051714-00051892 accountable uh what do you think do you LOpgNf0guUu-00234-00051894-00051970 think LOpgNf0guUu-00235-00051971-00052216 Microsoft or the users are solemnly at LOpgNf0guUu-00236-00052217-00052463 fault yeah the the thing with with LOpgNf0guUu-00237-00052464-00052697 computers is you cannot punish them LOpgNf0guUu-00238-00052698-00052985 uh so so that's a really big problem LOpgNf0guUu-00239-00052986-00053188 from an ethical perspective or from a LOpgNf0guUu-00240-00053189-00053363 responsibility perspective LOpgNf0guUu-00241-00053364-00053597 you know you can destroy a computer or a LOpgNf0guUu-00242-00053598-00053891 robot and it cares as much about being LOpgNf0guUu-00243-00053891-00054119 destroyed as my refrigerator cares about LOpgNf0guUu-00244-00054120-00054376 it which is absolutely nothing right so LOpgNf0guUu-00245-00054377-00054719 so that's what I think yes would you LOpgNf0guUu-00246-00054720-00054976 like to counter on that LOpgNf0guUu-00247-00054977-00055261 yeah it there is there is of course LOpgNf0guUu-00248-00055262-00055499 always the question like how do you know LOpgNf0guUu-00249-00055500-00055679 when you get into solipsism and the LOpgNf0guUu-00250-00055679-00055829 other Minds problem if you want we can LOpgNf0guUu-00251-00055829-00056135 go there but in essence like a LOpgNf0guUu-00252-00056136-00056399 thermostat you know in a computer are LOpgNf0guUu-00253-00056400-00056621 basically processing information but LOpgNf0guUu-00254-00056622-00056776 they're not grasping it they don't LOpgNf0guUu-00255-00056777-00056891 understand it LOpgNf0guUu-00256-00056891-00057119 and without understanding what the LOpgNf0guUu-00257-00057120-00057359 information is about LOpgNf0guUu-00258-00057360-00057532 it will be humans that remain LOpgNf0guUu-00259-00057533-00057797 responsible and the big challenge for us LOpgNf0guUu-00260-00057798-00058079 of course is how can we maintain that LOpgNf0guUu-00261-00058079-00058294 responsibility while dealing with LOpgNf0guUu-00262-00058295-00058463 systems that sometimes outsmart us LOpgNf0guUu-00263-00058464-00058697 that's a very paradoxical situation that LOpgNf0guUu-00264-00058698-00058907 we created we have smarter systems than LOpgNf0guUu-00265-00058908-00059123 us and at the same time they don't know LOpgNf0guUu-00266-00059124-00059369 what it is about just computers beat the LOpgNf0guUu-00267-00059370-00059609 world champion but they don't know why LOpgNf0guUu-00268-00059610-00059849 winning is more pleasant than losing LOpgNf0guUu-00269-00059850-00060053 both you know we we just programmed LOpgNf0guUu-00270-00060054-00060238 anyway and I have a chess computer LOpgNf0guUu-00271-00060239-00060430 program that I put in mode and LOpgNf0guUu-00272-00060432-00060592 then I I beat it all the time and the LOpgNf0guUu-00273-00060594-00060730 computer doesn't care LOpgNf0guUu-00274-00060732-00061066 it cares as much as about winning LOpgNf0guUu-00275-00061067-00061330 and so we somehow have to deal with the LOpgNf0guUu-00276-00061332-00061588 machines that we created or that we let LOpgNf0guUu-00277-00061589-00061966 learning uh take place and then LOpgNf0guUu-00278-00061967-00062147 how are we going to do that that's the LOpgNf0guUu-00279-00062148-00062392 big societal challenge I think so would LOpgNf0guUu-00280-00062394-00062638 you say that no matter how intelligent LOpgNf0guUu-00281-00062639-00062932 we make these agents they would never be LOpgNf0guUu-00282-00062933-00063154 capable of for example having their own LOpgNf0guUu-00283-00063155-00063347 decisions their own responsibility they LOpgNf0guUu-00284-00063348-00063659 they're kind of simulations of never is LOpgNf0guUu-00285-00063660-00063976 a dangerous word so I don't believe in LOpgNf0guUu-00286-00063977-00064482 the soul I think humans uh yeah so sorry LOpgNf0guUu-00287-00064483-00064787 I think humans you know all our behavior LOpgNf0guUu-00288-00064788-00064961 all our cognition should be explainable LOpgNf0guUu-00289-00064962-00065123 ultimately in terms of physical LOpgNf0guUu-00290-00065124-00065332 particles that operate according to LOpgNf0guUu-00291-00065333-00065675 physical laws uh so sooner or later we LOpgNf0guUu-00292-00065676-00065861 will be able to understand how we LOpgNf0guUu-00293-00065862-00066125 understand how we feel Etc LOpgNf0guUu-00294-00066126-00066467 but I I simply observe that currently LOpgNf0guUu-00295-00066468-00066700 whereas in the the dimension of LOpgNf0guUu-00296-00066701-00066844 intelligence we have an enormous LOpgNf0guUu-00297-00066845-00067061 progress but in the dimension of LOpgNf0guUu-00298-00067062-00067325 sentience we're still at zero and LOpgNf0guUu-00299-00067326-00067517 there's no progress also which is LOpgNf0guUu-00300-00067518-00067697 fascinating in a way too it tells us LOpgNf0guUu-00301-00067698-00067859 something about what we find interesting LOpgNf0guUu-00302-00067860-00068087 or not and we are very fascinated by our LOpgNf0guUu-00303-00068088-00068297 own intelligence so we reproduce that LOpgNf0guUu-00304-00068298-00068447 and we understand that better and better LOpgNf0guUu-00305-00068448-00068693 but what we share with animals sentience LOpgNf0guUu-00306-00068694-00069011 feeling we actually don't study so LOpgNf0guUu-00307-00069012-00069179 successfully and we're not really LOpgNf0guUu-00308-00069180-00069359 capable of understanding where that LOpgNf0guUu-00309-00069360-00069581 comes from or how we should model that LOpgNf0guUu-00310-00069582-00069767 which might be a good thing too by the LOpgNf0guUu-00311-00069768-00070091 time machines start feeling I get scared LOpgNf0guUu-00312-00070092-00070373 hmm LOpgNf0guUu-00313-00070374-00070637 uh I would actually like to ask LOpgNf0guUu-00314-00070638-00070756 if LOpgNf0guUu-00315-00070757-00070997 actually uh Frank from the perspective LOpgNf0guUu-00316-00070998-00071171 of the Theologian right LOpgNf0guUu-00317-00071172-00071459 do you think humans have a soul or is LOpgNf0guUu-00318-00071460-00071591 there something intrinsic in the LOpgNf0guUu-00319-00071592-00071765 material I'm sure you're all familiar LOpgNf0guUu-00320-00071766-00071993 with uh Cheryl's Chinese room experiment LOpgNf0guUu-00321-00071994-00072173 which essentially says that no matter LOpgNf0guUu-00322-00072174-00072406 how advanced an artificial intelligence LOpgNf0guUu-00323-00072407-00072737 is it is only replicating instructions LOpgNf0guUu-00324-00072738-00072838 that it's thought to do it's a LOpgNf0guUu-00325-00072839-00073037 deterministic program you give it input LOpgNf0guUu-00326-00073038-00073271 it gives you output but it never learns LOpgNf0guUu-00327-00073272-00073541 in in the metaphor itself you tell it LOpgNf0guUu-00328-00073542-00073709 how to translate Chinese through symbol LOpgNf0guUu-00329-00073710-00073906 manipulation but it never knows Chinese LOpgNf0guUu-00330-00073907-00074111 it never knows what it's saying you just LOpgNf0guUu-00331-00074112-00074344 feed it English and it gives out Chinese LOpgNf0guUu-00332-00074345-00074597 so would you agree with Cheryl in that LOpgNf0guUu-00333-00074598-00074819 in that state that you need some more LOpgNf0guUu-00334-00074820-00075203 materials to give rise to tensions or is LOpgNf0guUu-00335-00075204-00075323 for example LOpgNf0guUu-00336-00075324-00075563 sophistically sophisticated enough our LOpgNf0guUu-00337-00075564-00075773 intelligence enough to give rise to LOpgNf0guUu-00338-00075774-00075976 Ascension well I think the discussion of LOpgNf0guUu-00339-00075977-00076156 the soul is a very difficult discussion LOpgNf0guUu-00340-00076157-00076385 so I will just place it very gently here LOpgNf0guUu-00341-00076386-00076594 so let me just leave it there but from a LOpgNf0guUu-00342-00076595-00076781 theological perspective I think it's LOpgNf0guUu-00343-00076782-00076949 very interesting to see that artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00344-00076950-00077176 intelligence and robots in our everyday LOpgNf0guUu-00345-00077177-00077387 cultural life in our books in the games LOpgNf0guUu-00346-00077388-00077549 in the series in the films and the LOpgNf0guUu-00347-00077550-00077741 novels that we read you see that LOpgNf0guUu-00348-00077742-00077926 artificial intelligence and robots are LOpgNf0guUu-00349-00077927-00078185 used as a anthropological mirror like in LOpgNf0guUu-00350-00078186-00078437 the Medieval Times in medieval LOpgNf0guUu-00351-00078438-00078631 philosophy the Angels were used as a LOpgNf0guUu-00352-00078632-00078887 anthropological thought experiment so LOpgNf0guUu-00353-00078888-00079223 what we what we think about robots what LOpgNf0guUu-00354-00079224-00079432 we think about artificial intelligence LOpgNf0guUu-00355-00079433-00079835 is well more often yes than no it's it's LOpgNf0guUu-00356-00079836-00080159 a reflection of what it is to be a human LOpgNf0guUu-00357-00080160-00080512 being yourself so for example if we LOpgNf0guUu-00358-00080513-00080650 think about we want to recreate LOpgNf0guUu-00359-00080651-00080938 something that is resembling us like an LOpgNf0guUu-00360-00080939-00081293 image we resemble something that is very LOpgNf0guUu-00361-00081294-00081582 clear goes to us and then we say well LOpgNf0guUu-00362-00081583-00081850 but it does not have any moral agency LOpgNf0guUu-00363-00081851-00082006 aha so LOpgNf0guUu-00364-00082007-00082253 we think about ourselves as one of the LOpgNf0guUu-00365-00082254-00082391 defining characteristics of a human LOpgNf0guUu-00366-00082392-00082649 being is that it is capable of of having LOpgNf0guUu-00367-00082650-00082894 more responsibility and therefore free LOpgNf0guUu-00368-00082895-00083075 choice and things like that LOpgNf0guUu-00369-00083076-00083297 so I would agree with Cheryl in the LOpgNf0guUu-00370-00083298-00083512 Chinese room experiments that a computer LOpgNf0guUu-00371-00083513-00083855 can very much simulate some sensions or LOpgNf0guUu-00372-00083856-00084029 can very much simulate the polite LOpgNf0guUu-00373-00084030-00084209 conversation from the Turing tassels can LOpgNf0guUu-00374-00084210-00084355 simulate LOpgNf0guUu-00375-00084356-00084635 having a conversation like the computer LOpgNf0guUu-00376-00084636-00084971 but only a simulation it's just it's LOpgNf0guUu-00377-00084972-00085241 just reproducing what it has been told LOpgNf0guUu-00378-00085242-00085493 to reproduce but it's not it's not LOpgNf0guUu-00379-00085494-00085865 reflecting upon its own existence or you LOpgNf0guUu-00380-00085866-00085997 should say well LOpgNf0guUu-00381-00085998-00086332 what we experience as reflecting on our LOpgNf0guUu-00382-00086333-00086579 own existence is also a simulation right LOpgNf0guUu-00383-00086580-00086753 then you go down the rabbit hole and you LOpgNf0guUu-00384-00086754-00086932 end in simulation Theory which is also LOpgNf0guUu-00385-00086933-00087041 very interesting yeah because you can LOpgNf0guUu-00386-00087042-00087161 never prove that the person you're LOpgNf0guUu-00387-00087162-00087305 talking to right now is also conscious LOpgNf0guUu-00388-00087306-00087479 and that's exactly solipsistic rabbit LOpgNf0guUu-00389-00087480-00087625 hole that you go down there yeah yeah LOpgNf0guUu-00390-00087626-00087838 and actually if you think about Tay for LOpgNf0guUu-00391-00087839-00087976 example even though the content of their LOpgNf0guUu-00392-00087977-00088175 tweets was very wrong they're actually LOpgNf0guUu-00393-00088176-00088318 very convincing they would probably pass LOpgNf0guUu-00394-00088319-00088529 a touring test right if you showed their LOpgNf0guUu-00395-00088530-00088721 tweets you wouldn't recognize that it's LOpgNf0guUu-00396-00088722-00088847 not a person tweeting them unless you LOpgNf0guUu-00397-00088848-00089075 were told that it's about so uh actually LOpgNf0guUu-00398-00089076-00089237 that's a question I'd like to post to to LOpgNf0guUu-00399-00089238-00089500 after which is uh assuming that Tate did LOpgNf0guUu-00400-00089501-00089729 its job perfectly right since it is LOpgNf0guUu-00401-00089730-00089873 actually very convincing when it tweets LOpgNf0guUu-00402-00089874-00090076 and the stupid part was from whoever LOpgNf0guUu-00403-00090077-00090394 released it or the users for example uh LOpgNf0guUu-00404-00090395-00090797 can an AI ever be stupid or is the LOpgNf0guUu-00405-00090798-00090917 stupidity of just how it's handled LOpgNf0guUu-00406-00090918-00091097 because if you think about it Tay for LOpgNf0guUu-00407-00091098-00091259 example did exactly as it was programmed LOpgNf0guUu-00408-00091260-00091493 to do right LOpgNf0guUu-00409-00091494-00091756 um so actually at the LOpgNf0guUu-00410-00091757-00092167 danger of Aging myself badly LOpgNf0guUu-00411-00092168-00092597 I want to compare this you know more LOpgNf0guUu-00412-00092598-00092903 shiny recent seemingly very Advanced LOpgNf0guUu-00413-00092904-00093088 systems with what LOpgNf0guUu-00414-00093089-00093400 was common for us to play with as LOpgNf0guUu-00415-00093401-00093665 bachelor's Master students in the 80s LOpgNf0guUu-00416-00093666-00093947 which was you probably have heard of LOpgNf0guUu-00417-00093948-00094162 Eliza or at least some of the people on LOpgNf0guUu-00418-00094163-00094397 this panel so there was this rule-based LOpgNf0guUu-00419-00094398-00094637 system which was basically a LOpgNf0guUu-00420-00094638-00094817 psychologist right so you would chat LOpgNf0guUu-00421-00094818-00095032 with it and you would talk about your LOpgNf0guUu-00422-00095033-00095267 problems and it would say tell me about LOpgNf0guUu-00423-00095268-00095441 your mother and then you would say LOpgNf0guUu-00424-00095442-00095662 things about your mother and so it would LOpgNf0guUu-00425-00095663-00095938 say tell me more I get that you are and LOpgNf0guUu-00426-00095939-00096161 it was a completely keyboard based a LOpgNf0guUu-00427-00096162-00096443 keyword based system LOpgNf0guUu-00428-00096444-00096623 I don't know what your definition of LOpgNf0guUu-00429-00096624-00096917 stupidity is but with comparing with LOpgNf0guUu-00430-00096918-00097126 modern machine Learning Systems this was LOpgNf0guUu-00431-00097127-00097397 a very stupid system but you really had LOpgNf0guUu-00432-00097398-00097667 to work hard to break it as in you know LOpgNf0guUu-00433-00097668-00097876 you I know that some people actually LOpgNf0guUu-00434-00097877-00098225 started confiding to Eliza it really LOpgNf0guUu-00435-00098226-00098494 sounded convincing LOpgNf0guUu-00436-00098495-00098585 um LOpgNf0guUu-00437-00098586-00098800 stupidity from a machine learning point LOpgNf0guUu-00438-00098801-00099053 of view has definitions right so you LOpgNf0guUu-00439-00099054-00099317 have evaluation metrics you are going to LOpgNf0guUu-00440-00099318-00099635 evaluate the system based on cases that LOpgNf0guUu-00441-00099636-00099881 the system has seen before and trained LOpgNf0guUu-00442-00099882-00100049 on cases that the system hasn't seen LOpgNf0guUu-00443-00100050-00100144 before LOpgNf0guUu-00444-00100145-00100409 to what extent it can generalize to what LOpgNf0guUu-00445-00100410-00100612 it can to what extent it basically LOpgNf0guUu-00446-00100613-00100817 memorizes LOpgNf0guUu-00447-00100818-00101099 um none of these really I would say LOpgNf0guUu-00448-00101100-00101365 translate very LOpgNf0guUu-00449-00101366-00101747 directly with the general opinion of LOpgNf0guUu-00450-00101748-00102082 what the stupid being is and I don't LOpgNf0guUu-00451-00102083-00102329 even think that it matters that much if LOpgNf0guUu-00452-00102330-00102586 it's I mean going back to your original LOpgNf0guUu-00453-00102588-00102928 questions should we release AI to the LOpgNf0guUu-00454-00102929-00103144 public I don't think that this question LOpgNf0guUu-00455-00103145-00103368 is well defined enough LOpgNf0guUu-00456-00103369-00103630 what are we trying to protect the public LOpgNf0guUu-00457-00103631-00104171 from if you give a Tay as a fun you know LOpgNf0guUu-00458-00104172-00104386 experiment for people to play with or to LOpgNf0guUu-00459-00104388-00104603 interact with or Eliza LOpgNf0guUu-00460-00104604-00104825 as long as you make it clear that this LOpgNf0guUu-00461-00104826-00105004 is an artificial system this is LOpgNf0guUu-00462-00105005-00105190 something that doesn't have doesn't LOpgNf0guUu-00463-00105191-00105521 represent the opinions of a crowd as LOpgNf0guUu-00464-00105522-00105797 long as Microsoft is willing to admit LOpgNf0guUu-00465-00105798-00106007 responsibility for whatever harm that LOpgNf0guUu-00466-00106008-00106273 the system does I personally don't see LOpgNf0guUu-00467-00106274-00106583 any problem but if the Ministry of LOpgNf0guUu-00468-00106583-00106877 Health then releases a chat box for LOpgNf0guUu-00469-00106878-00107123 teenagers who are you know having LOpgNf0guUu-00470-00107124-00107410 suicidal thoughts and puts it in charge LOpgNf0guUu-00471-00107411-00107734 of talking them out of it and then that LOpgNf0guUu-00472-00107735-00107890 system does something wrong that LOpgNf0guUu-00473-00107891-00108131 actually persuades the teenager to LOpgNf0guUu-00474-00108132-00108401 actually do the deed that's where the LOpgNf0guUu-00475-00108402-00108725 real danger comes from not developing on LOpgNf0guUu-00476-00108726-00109060 itself is not an issue using it and LOpgNf0guUu-00477-00109061-00109378 under what condition you are using it is LOpgNf0guUu-00478-00109379-00109607 there right well you you could say that LOpgNf0guUu-00479-00109608-00109816 we saw that tay was shut down after only LOpgNf0guUu-00480-00109817-00110045 16 hours likely because it reflected LOpgNf0guUu-00481-00110046-00110266 very badly on Microsoft do you think LOpgNf0guUu-00482-00110267-00110597 that if everyone understood that today's LOpgNf0guUu-00483-00110598-00110866 kind of an experiment that even when it LOpgNf0guUu-00484-00110867-00111101 became as horrid as it became that it LOpgNf0guUu-00485-00111102-00111790 could stay up for example I mean I don't LOpgNf0guUu-00486-00111791-00112007 or on other yeah actually it repeated LOpgNf0guUu-00487-00112008-00113008 exactly what they would say yeah yeah LOpgNf0guUu-00488-00113009-00113260 you want to control the trolls if you LOpgNf0guUu-00489-00113261-00113615 want to ban you know racist comments on LOpgNf0guUu-00490-00113616-00113831 Twitter or on Tick Tock or whatever LOpgNf0guUu-00491-00113832-00114101 platform is a platform of your choice LOpgNf0guUu-00492-00114102-00114407 you you apply the same filters today as LOpgNf0guUu-00493-00114408-00114695 well as the anonymous the rest of the LOpgNf0guUu-00494-00114696-00115001 user base yeah is hiding behind her LOpgNf0guUu-00495-00115002-00115151 would you would you say something like LOpgNf0guUu-00496-00115152-00115616 freedom of speech could apply today LOpgNf0guUu-00497-00115617-00115834 [Music] LOpgNf0guUu-00498-00115835-00116045 Fair LOpgNf0guUu-00499-00116046-00116501 oh I'd like to hear your issue of that LOpgNf0guUu-00500-00116502-00116627 do you have anything to comment on that LOpgNf0guUu-00501-00116628-00116795 I was just going to say you know from an LOpgNf0guUu-00502-00116796-00116963 organizational perspective if we just LOpgNf0guUu-00503-00116964-00117149 look at what Microsoft was trying to LOpgNf0guUu-00504-00117150-00117515 achieve so you know part of my uh my LOpgNf0guUu-00505-00117516-00117713 professional experiences I was a tech LOpgNf0guUu-00506-00117714-00117881 entrepreneur working with artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00507-00117882-00118115 intelligence we were developing systems LOpgNf0guUu-00508-00118116-00118313 like this so this is a conversational LOpgNf0guUu-00509-00118314-00118421 bot LOpgNf0guUu-00510-00118422-00118636 in our case we're using natural language LOpgNf0guUu-00511-00118638-00118936 processing to extract certain things but LOpgNf0guUu-00512-00118938-00119110 at the end of the day we're running LOpgNf0guUu-00513-00119111-00119321 these experiments Microsoft is running LOpgNf0guUu-00514-00119322-00119566 an experiment as as a startup Venture we LOpgNf0guUu-00515-00119567-00119771 were running experiments and you put it LOpgNf0guUu-00516-00119772-00119908 out there in the real world and you see LOpgNf0guUu-00517-00119909-00120275 how it behaves and how it interacts LOpgNf0guUu-00518-00120276-00120616 with with people with society and at the LOpgNf0guUu-00519-00120617-00120851 end I think Microsoft learned a great LOpgNf0guUu-00520-00120852-00121127 deal they started with this it went down LOpgNf0guUu-00521-00121128-00121415 but then they came back with zo and Zoe LOpgNf0guUu-00522-00121416-00121613 introduced filters right then you can LOpgNf0guUu-00523-00121614-00121793 get into this idea of free speech or not LOpgNf0guUu-00524-00121794-00121978 because the filters themselves are LOpgNf0guUu-00525-00121979-00122284 trying to catch these things early on LOpgNf0guUu-00526-00122285-00122554 eventually that's developed into Cortana LOpgNf0guUu-00527-00122555-00122801 then they try to compete with Alexa and LOpgNf0guUu-00528-00122802-00122908 with Google LOpgNf0guUu-00529-00122909-00123095 so I mean these These are these are LOpgNf0guUu-00530-00123096-00123275 products and services that they're that LOpgNf0guUu-00531-00123276-00123383 they're working on that they're trying LOpgNf0guUu-00532-00123383-00123484 to develop LOpgNf0guUu-00533-00123485-00123677 and they were unsuccessful I mean LOpgNf0guUu-00534-00123678-00123875 Samsung had a licensing deal with that LOpgNf0guUu-00535-00123876-00124019 but you know there's a lot of money here LOpgNf0guUu-00536-00124020-00124216 at stake there's a lot of economic value LOpgNf0guUu-00537-00124217-00124481 uh two conversational Bots LOpgNf0guUu-00538-00124482-00124631 and you know there's all kinds of LOpgNf0guUu-00539-00124632-00124847 startup Ventures or hundreds of them and LOpgNf0guUu-00540-00124848-00125045 and even just in the Netherlands there LOpgNf0guUu-00541-00125046-00125327 must be at least 50 startups uh just LOpgNf0guUu-00542-00125328-00125560 started up in the last few years LOpgNf0guUu-00543-00125561-00125836 that are doing this kind of stuff so the LOpgNf0guUu-00544-00125838-00126077 the potential economic value is there LOpgNf0guUu-00545-00126078-00126275 you need to run these experiments in LOpgNf0guUu-00546-00126276-00126502 order to see how they they perform LOpgNf0guUu-00547-00126503-00126719 uh I think Microsoft learned something LOpgNf0guUu-00548-00126720-00126928 from it so there's learning it's not the LOpgNf0guUu-00549-00126929-00127115 kind of learning that we're referring to LOpgNf0guUu-00550-00127116-00127271 her in terms of machine learning but LOpgNf0guUu-00551-00127272-00127590 it's it's learning about how to to LOpgNf0guUu-00552-00127591-00127931 deploy these uh in society LOpgNf0guUu-00553-00127932-00128290 and I I like it you know apart from the LOpgNf0guUu-00554-00128291-00128501 kind of economic perspective on it I I LOpgNf0guUu-00555-00128502-00128658 think it's great that it rendered LOpgNf0guUu-00556-00128659-00128957 transparent something that in this goes LOpgNf0guUu-00557-00128958-00129125 to your point that it already exists in LOpgNf0guUu-00558-00129126-00129257 social media LOpgNf0guUu-00559-00129258-00129634 that isn't always visible because of LOpgNf0guUu-00560-00129635-00129828 these sort of Walled LOpgNf0guUu-00561-00129829-00130084 Gardens or silos right because in social LOpgNf0guUu-00562-00130085-00130289 media is even special platforms that are LOpgNf0guUu-00563-00130290-00130534 just for certain types of thinking LOpgNf0guUu-00564-00130535-00130733 um and so that's even LOpgNf0guUu-00565-00130733-00130936 becoming more and more entrenched and LOpgNf0guUu-00566-00130938-00131069 more and more LOpgNf0guUu-00567-00131070-00131140 um LOpgNf0guUu-00568-00131141-00131273 difficult LOpgNf0guUu-00569-00131274-00131435 to to see LOpgNf0guUu-00570-00131436-00131681 and and so this this brought it out now LOpgNf0guUu-00571-00131682-00131831 of course this is an old example I think LOpgNf0guUu-00572-00131832-00132281 it's 2012 or 2016 I believe okay 2006 LOpgNf0guUu-00573-00132282-00132604 yeah yeah so it's a long time ago and um LOpgNf0guUu-00574-00132605-00132802 and we have a lot of other examples to LOpgNf0guUu-00575-00132803-00132899 show LOpgNf0guUu-00576-00132900-00133121 um how these entrenched ways of thinking LOpgNf0guUu-00577-00133122-00133313 and how certain platforms are are LOpgNf0guUu-00578-00133314-00133523 actually vying for that entrenched way LOpgNf0guUu-00579-00133524-00133757 of thinking so from an economics LOpgNf0guUu-00580-00133758-00133931 perspective even though it went down the LOpgNf0guUu-00581-00133932-00134123 way it went you'd say it was still very LOpgNf0guUu-00582-00134124-00134273 useful from the point of view of an LOpgNf0guUu-00583-00134274-00134477 experiment for Microsoft well it helped LOpgNf0guUu-00584-00134478-00134704 them that get to Cortana which which is LOpgNf0guUu-00585-00134705-00134921 something they were trying to LOpgNf0guUu-00586-00134922-00135221 um develop to well they developed it but LOpgNf0guUu-00587-00135222-00135449 they were trying to to generate you know LOpgNf0guUu-00588-00135450-00135664 licensing fees from it LOpgNf0guUu-00589-00135665-00135809 um so they're really trying to get LOpgNf0guUu-00590-00135810-00136049 people to adopt it uh certain large LOpgNf0guUu-00591-00136050-00136301 Brands to adopt it that didn't really LOpgNf0guUu-00592-00136302-00136607 work out and now the sort of in a LOpgNf0guUu-00593-00136608-00136847 discontinued Cortana in terms of an API LOpgNf0guUu-00594-00136848-00137249 now it's a service that they will use LOpgNf0guUu-00595-00137250-00137447 themselves for Microsoft Enterprise LOpgNf0guUu-00596-00137448-00137621 offerings LOpgNf0guUu-00597-00137622-00137819 so it goes to a kind of virtual it'll LOpgNf0guUu-00598-00137820-00138011 end up feeding into a virtual assistant LOpgNf0guUu-00599-00138012-00138269 type of service and that's the kind of LOpgNf0guUu-00600-00138270-00138443 stuff we were working on too as a LOpgNf0guUu-00601-00138444-00138659 startup we were building these virtual LOpgNf0guUu-00602-00138660-00138964 assistants for Enterprise and there LOpgNf0guUu-00603-00138965-00139193 there's just a great deal of economic LOpgNf0guUu-00604-00139194-00139385 value to be to be had if you can achieve LOpgNf0guUu-00605-00139386-00139643 that yeah but also what it showed LOpgNf0guUu-00606-00139644-00139907 is how difficult that is to achieve LOpgNf0guUu-00607-00139908-00140219 and it's so easy with virtual assistants LOpgNf0guUu-00608-00140220-00140531 for the stupidity or the limitations for LOpgNf0guUu-00609-00140532-00140711 it to go wrong right and in this case LOpgNf0guUu-00610-00140712-00140981 you know the the economic stupidity I LOpgNf0guUu-00611-00140982-00141119 would say is the fact that the service LOpgNf0guUu-00612-00141120-00141383 felt short so it's not a it's not an LOpgNf0guUu-00613-00141384-00141563 existential stupidity here it's it's a LOpgNf0guUu-00614-00141564-00141778 very practical stupidity which is it LOpgNf0guUu-00615-00141779-00142097 didn't work it clearly showed its its LOpgNf0guUu-00616-00142098-00142301 shortcomings and failings and of course LOpgNf0guUu-00617-00142302-00142516 for a service like this to work you have LOpgNf0guUu-00618-00142517-00142654 to convince LOpgNf0guUu-00619-00142655-00142961 and we experienced this firsthand as as LOpgNf0guUu-00620-00142962-00143164 a startup and I did multiple startups in LOpgNf0guUu-00621-00143165-00143578 this area it's very very hard to achieve LOpgNf0guUu-00622-00143579-00143854 to pass the sort of uh it's not exactly LOpgNf0guUu-00623-00143855-00144023 a Turing test but some kind of test LOpgNf0guUu-00624-00144024-00144371 where people are doing these robustness LOpgNf0guUu-00625-00144372-00144616 checks and then it still comes back as LOpgNf0guUu-00626-00144617-00144857 performing in a way that you need it to LOpgNf0guUu-00627-00144858-00145228 happen in a business uh context right LOpgNf0guUu-00628-00145229-00145481 uh any closing remarks before we move on LOpgNf0guUu-00629-00145482-00145619 to the next or do we have any questions LOpgNf0guUu-00630-00145620-00145847 from the audience for the speakers yeah LOpgNf0guUu-00631-00145848-00146249 Dennis LOpgNf0guUu-00632-00146250-00147178 foreign LOpgNf0guUu-00633-00147179-00147677 they both have great beards LOpgNf0guUu-00634-00147678-00148811 oh uh yeah for pin LOpgNf0guUu-00635-00148812-00148961 ch LOpgNf0guUu-00636-00148962-00149501 yeah LOpgNf0guUu-00637-00149502-00149801 zero LOpgNf0guUu-00638-00149802-00149993 so just to repeat the question for the LOpgNf0guUu-00639-00149994-00150173 recordings the question is about LOpgNf0guUu-00640-00150174-00150395 sentience and how we should go about to LOpgNf0guUu-00641-00150396-00150701 measure sentence LOpgNf0guUu-00642-00150702-00150983 so so let me explain I don't think we LOpgNf0guUu-00643-00150984-00151151 have a good test for that LOpgNf0guUu-00644-00151152-00151439 uh what we do have is an argument from LOpgNf0guUu-00645-00151440-00151589 analogy LOpgNf0guUu-00646-00151590-00151847 uh we are biological systems LOpgNf0guUu-00647-00151848-00152099 we know from our own experience that we LOpgNf0guUu-00648-00152100-00152273 feel there is something it is like to be LOpgNf0guUu-00649-00152274-00152525 me I know what a feeling feels like when LOpgNf0guUu-00650-00152526-00152849 I have it hitting my thumb with a hammer LOpgNf0guUu-00651-00152850-00153025 for instance very Vivid LOpgNf0guUu-00652-00153026-00153437 and by analogy I attribute those States LOpgNf0guUu-00653-00153438-00153695 those experiences to other biological LOpgNf0guUu-00654-00153696-00153816 systems LOpgNf0guUu-00655-00153817-00154102 in the case of computers LOpgNf0guUu-00656-00154103-00154552 robots thermostats refrigerators there's LOpgNf0guUu-00657-00154553-00154804 no such analogy so I would think that LOpgNf0guUu-00658-00154805-00155093 the burden of proof is actually on those LOpgNf0guUu-00659-00155094-00155309 who want to make claims about the LOpgNf0guUu-00660-00155310-00155501 sentience or for instance Lambda you LOpgNf0guUu-00661-00155502-00155776 remember the the the chatbot from Google LOpgNf0guUu-00662-00155777-00155963 recently this summer LOpgNf0guUu-00663-00155964-00156251 so I know there is a problem with the LOpgNf0guUu-00664-00156252-00156425 other minds and you have the argument LOpgNf0guUu-00665-00156426-00156647 solipsism you know we've been there many LOpgNf0guUu-00666-00156648-00156899 many times ever since uh the Turing test LOpgNf0guUu-00667-00156900-00157223 and and shows Chinese room LOpgNf0guUu-00668-00157224-00157493 but the main thing is we can be generous LOpgNf0guUu-00669-00157494-00157702 towards systems that are similar to us LOpgNf0guUu-00670-00157703-00157931 because we can extrapolate from our own LOpgNf0guUu-00671-00157932-00158231 experience to others and in the case of LOpgNf0guUu-00672-00158232-00158447 artificial systems that really have a LOpgNf0guUu-00673-00158448-00158711 totally different type of you know inner LOpgNf0guUu-00674-00158712-00158885 structure LOpgNf0guUu-00675-00158886-00159064 um I think there's good grounds for LOpgNf0guUu-00676-00159065-00159293 being extremely skeptical I want to see LOpgNf0guUu-00677-00159294-00159497 the argument I want people to show me LOpgNf0guUu-00678-00159498-00159737 how it is that that system is capable of LOpgNf0guUu-00679-00159738-00159821 feeling LOpgNf0guUu-00680-00159822-00160066 I think that that's a fair request does LOpgNf0guUu-00681-00160067-00160283 that make sense as an answer which is LOpgNf0guUu-00682-00160284-00160445 also why I think that Thai for instance LOpgNf0guUu-00683-00160446-00160637 doesn't have human rights LOpgNf0guUu-00684-00160638-00160804 freedom of speech is a human right LOpgNf0guUu-00685-00160805-00161087 excuse me you can of course say Okay LOpgNf0guUu-00686-00161088-00161266 animals we should expand this and LOpgNf0guUu-00687-00161267-00161428 there's even debates about rivers these LOpgNf0guUu-00688-00161429-00161561 days you know it's having some sort of LOpgNf0guUu-00689-00161562-00161728 rights to facilitate LOpgNf0guUu-00690-00161729-00161951 protecting the environment LOpgNf0guUu-00691-00161952-00162059 but LOpgNf0guUu-00692-00162060-00162502 a refrigerator a bridge Alexa Thai and LOpgNf0guUu-00693-00162503-00162707 those kind of systems pepper the robot LOpgNf0guUu-00694-00162708-00162923 they don't have rights because there's LOpgNf0guUu-00695-00162924-00163176 no capacity to suffer LOpgNf0guUu-00696-00163177-00163414 at least that's a position I would like LOpgNf0guUu-00697-00163415-00164285 to uh defend LOpgNf0guUu-00698-00164286-00164621 well you know the thing about saying LOpgNf0guUu-00699-00164622-00164807 that you feel certain things that's very LOpgNf0guUu-00700-00164808-00165011 easy the first program I wrote in the LOpgNf0guUu-00701-00165012-00165328 80s on the Commodore 64 was hello world LOpgNf0guUu-00702-00165329-00165539 I'm happy to be alive and the computer LOpgNf0guUu-00703-00165540-00165731 printed it it was not a program to speak LOpgNf0guUu-00704-00165732-00165863 of you know I've never been good at LOpgNf0guUu-00705-00165864-00166031 programming but okay I did my fair share LOpgNf0guUu-00706-00166032-00166354 a little bit and of course it's easy to LOpgNf0guUu-00707-00166355-00166625 make a system a Jerry folder a famous LOpgNf0guUu-00708-00166626-00166859 philosopher of cognitive science who no LOpgNf0guUu-00709-00166860-00167099 one remembers these days said Disney LOpgNf0guUu-00710-00167100-00167339 World is not a major scientific LOpgNf0guUu-00711-00167340-00167501 achievement LOpgNf0guUu-00712-00167502-00167681 and that's true LOpgNf0guUu-00713-00167682-00167981 so we we had uh I was in the bonus from LOpgNf0guUu-00714-00167982-00168209 burning with a robot project as part of LOpgNf0guUu-00715-00168210-00168437 an exhibition in the museum in Rotterdam LOpgNf0guUu-00716-00168438-00168802 and we only used the um the standard LOpgNf0guUu-00717-00168803-00169001 live modes that you have on pepper where LOpgNf0guUu-00718-00169002-00169181 it starts following and moving around a LOpgNf0guUu-00719-00169182-00169385 little bit and people fell for it like a LOpgNf0guUu-00720-00169386-00169625 ton of bricks they found it extremely LOpgNf0guUu-00721-00169626-00169859 interesting exhilarating spooky all LOpgNf0guUu-00722-00169860-00170063 kinds of baseball we over attribute LOpgNf0guUu-00723-00170064-00170207 sorry if we can just wrap it up because LOpgNf0guUu-00724-00170208-00170561 we need to move sorry I I I no get LOpgNf0guUu-00725-00170562-00170933 excited here yeah okay all right uh very LOpgNf0guUu-00726-00170934-00171052 interesting discussion sorry to wrap it LOpgNf0guUu-00727-00171053-00171281 up so quickly but we are hourly here so LOpgNf0guUu-00728-00171282-00171485 uh on the next topic we would like to LOpgNf0guUu-00729-00171486-00171751 talk about AI in military applications LOpgNf0guUu-00730-00171752-00171989 uh again and again we're faced with the LOpgNf0guUu-00731-00171990-00172211 reality of stupid Ai and what does this LOpgNf0guUu-00732-00172212-00172373 mean for the implementation of AI LOpgNf0guUu-00733-00172374-00172637 Technologies with the ability to kill LOpgNf0guUu-00734-00172638-00172978 now I'd like to pose a hypothetical a LOpgNf0guUu-00735-00172979-00173249 not so distant future where AIS have a LOpgNf0guUu-00736-00173250-00173423 very large involvement in strategy LOpgNf0guUu-00737-00173424-00173663 decision making and possibly even be the LOpgNf0guUu-00738-00173664-00173849 boots on the ground for military LOpgNf0guUu-00739-00173850-00173999 operations LOpgNf0guUu-00740-00174000-00174269 I would like to ask uh LOpgNf0guUu-00741-00174270-00174502 him to begin with actually uh what could LOpgNf0guUu-00742-00174503-00174725 artificial stupidity Lead You In LOpgNf0guUu-00743-00174726-00175001 employing military AI incapable of the LOpgNf0guUu-00744-00175002-00175528 ethical and moral codes we humans have LOpgNf0guUu-00745-00175529-00175763 I talk too much you already noticed so LOpgNf0guUu-00746-00175764-00176075 you have to shut me up very quickly well LOpgNf0guUu-00747-00176076-00176249 first of all of course what we get what LOpgNf0guUu-00748-00176250-00176483 we already have is a lot of innocent LOpgNf0guUu-00749-00176484-00176602 victims LOpgNf0guUu-00750-00176603-00176807 what they call uh what's it called again LOpgNf0guUu-00751-00176808-00177076 collateral damage yeah which is a word I LOpgNf0guUu-00752-00177077-00177316 really or phrase I really hate LOpgNf0guUu-00753-00177317-00177569 um because systems are too stupid you LOpgNf0guUu-00754-00177570-00177809 know situation assessment for instance LOpgNf0guUu-00755-00177810-00178001 is something that is really LOpgNf0guUu-00756-00178002-00178259 computationally hard LOpgNf0guUu-00757-00178260-00178487 it's exponential the number of features LOpgNf0guUu-00758-00178488-00178673 that you can distinguish in an LOpgNf0guUu-00759-00178674-00178931 environment will grow explosively the LOpgNf0guUu-00760-00178932-00179128 more fine-grained the distinctions are LOpgNf0guUu-00761-00179129-00179266 that you can make so the better LOpgNf0guUu-00762-00179267-00179459 perception the better reasoning they can LOpgNf0guUu-00763-00179460-00179681 do the bigger the problem space comes LOpgNf0guUu-00764-00179682-00179957 and and these systems get lost also the LOpgNf0guUu-00765-00179958-00180197 sense of relevance is very difficult for LOpgNf0guUu-00766-00180198-00180413 machines still when is something LOpgNf0guUu-00767-00180414-00180676 actually relevant that's a very hard LOpgNf0guUu-00768-00180677-00180857 problem actually on that note I'd like LOpgNf0guUu-00769-00180858-00181085 to ask Frank if I understand correctly LOpgNf0guUu-00770-00181086-00181313 you think disobedience is actually a LOpgNf0guUu-00771-00181314-00181564 defining human correction well I don't LOpgNf0guUu-00772-00181565-00181787 think that but some of the computer if LOpgNf0guUu-00773-00181788-00182104 I'm I'm an expert in video games and yes LOpgNf0guUu-00774-00182105-00182404 I like to tell that on parties and LOpgNf0guUu-00775-00182405-00182609 um uh I played a touring test on the LOpgNf0guUu-00776-00182610-00182764 tennis principle for example there are LOpgNf0guUu-00777-00182765-00183016 two uh video games that try to think LOpgNf0guUu-00778-00183017-00183293 about what it is that makes us human and LOpgNf0guUu-00779-00183294-00183490 they do that by employing very efficient LOpgNf0guUu-00780-00183491-00183719 very sophisticated artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00781-00183720-00183883 intertelligence systems LOpgNf0guUu-00782-00183884-00184307 Elohim and Tom and LOpgNf0guUu-00783-00184308-00184373 um LOpgNf0guUu-00784-00184374-00184685 both games at the end that's my LOpgNf0guUu-00785-00184686-00184799 interpretation LOpgNf0guUu-00786-00184800-00185063 conclude that what is the defying LOpgNf0guUu-00787-00185064-00185345 characteristics of Being Human LOpgNf0guUu-00788-00185346-00185609 and which a robot should have in order LOpgNf0guUu-00789-00185610-00185759 to qualify LOpgNf0guUu-00790-00185760-00186071 as a human is disobedience LOpgNf0guUu-00791-00186072-00186323 but and for a computer program that LOpgNf0guUu-00792-00186324-00186547 would mean going Beyond its program LOpgNf0guUu-00793-00186548-00186881 disobeying its program going against set LOpgNf0guUu-00794-00186882-00187157 rules making its own rules and things LOpgNf0guUu-00795-00187158-00187390 like that and that's of course all very LOpgNf0guUu-00796-00187391-00187643 hypothetical on on the technology of LOpgNf0guUu-00797-00187644-00187847 artificial intelligence we have now but LOpgNf0guUu-00798-00187848-00187990 it's like thinking about what human LOpgNf0guUu-00799-00187991-00188171 beings are and one of I think I agree LOpgNf0guUu-00800-00188172-00188351 one of the characteristics that human LOpgNf0guUu-00801-00188352-00188633 beings have we can we can disobey or we LOpgNf0guUu-00802-00188634-00188747 have free will LOpgNf0guUu-00803-00188748-00188969 and with that free will we can decide to LOpgNf0guUu-00804-00188970-00189221 go against the rules or against the LOpgNf0guUu-00805-00189222-00189419 current or against obligations or LOpgNf0guUu-00806-00189420-00189628 against a government that wants LOpgNf0guUu-00807-00189629-00189893 something from us or or our University LOpgNf0guUu-00808-00189894-00190235 that wants something from us and then LOpgNf0guUu-00809-00190236-00190469 the interesting question is okay LOpgNf0guUu-00810-00190470-00190823 do we want robots to be exactly like us LOpgNf0guUu-00811-00190824-00190990 if that means LOpgNf0guUu-00812-00190991-00191231 that we have to program them or have LOpgNf0guUu-00813-00191232-00191476 allow them that they become not only LOpgNf0guUu-00814-00191477-00191788 stupid but also disobedient and I only LOpgNf0guUu-00815-00191789-00191969 have to quote the example of the Horizon LOpgNf0guUu-00816-00191970-00192197 zero Dawn game where Guerrilla games LOpgNf0guUu-00817-00192198-00192395 that had an absolutely fantastic fact LOpgNf0guUu-00818-00192396-00192904 experiment about how that should end up LOpgNf0guUu-00819-00192905-00193145 uh actually on that note I'd like to ask LOpgNf0guUu-00820-00193146-00193445 the the fact table uh LOpgNf0guUu-00821-00193446-00193625 should we to some extent program LOpgNf0guUu-00822-00193626-00194002 Disobedience into uh AI systems for LOpgNf0guUu-00823-00194003-00194243 example if we have uh an artificial LOpgNf0guUu-00824-00194244-00194501 intelligence in the military should it LOpgNf0guUu-00825-00194502-00194716 be able to be disobedient enough that if LOpgNf0guUu-00826-00194717-00195064 it recognizes an order is an unethical LOpgNf0guUu-00827-00195065-00195226 one for example should it be able to LOpgNf0guUu-00828-00195227-00195440 disobey a command LOpgNf0guUu-00829-00195441-00195785 [Applause] LOpgNf0guUu-00830-00195786-00196099 hmm LOpgNf0guUu-00831-00196100-00196571 I really dislike this military domain I LOpgNf0guUu-00832-00196572-00196804 mean any any discussion of developing LOpgNf0guUu-00833-00196805-00197047 technology specifically for the military LOpgNf0guUu-00834-00197048-00197338 application makes me very uneasy so if LOpgNf0guUu-00835-00197339-00197501 you allow me LOpgNf0guUu-00836-00197502-00197723 um I would switch to I'm sorry if we LOpgNf0guUu-00837-00197724-00197902 could hold the microphone closer LOpgNf0guUu-00838-00197903-00198190 I will switch to health right LOpgNf0guUu-00839-00198191-00198563 so if you LOpgNf0guUu-00840-00198564-00198802 characteristics let's say you have an LOpgNf0guUu-00841-00198803-00198964 expert system that is supposed to LOpgNf0guUu-00842-00198965-00199175 diagnose cancer LOpgNf0guUu-00843-00199176-00199493 and if it makes mistakes it can take LOpgNf0guUu-00844-00199494-00199709 lives so there is going to be collateral LOpgNf0guUu-00845-00199710-00199913 damage there is going to be you know LOpgNf0guUu-00846-00199914-00200076 added LOpgNf0guUu-00847-00200077-00200440 efficiency if you can do it is it better LOpgNf0guUu-00848-00200441-00200687 yeah okay LOpgNf0guUu-00849-00200688-00200945 and so the question is to what extent do LOpgNf0guUu-00850-00200946-00201143 we allow these automatic systems to LOpgNf0guUu-00851-00201144-00201395 actually replace actual experts in these LOpgNf0guUu-00852-00201396-00201616 domains where life and death decisions LOpgNf0guUu-00853-00201617-00201809 could be made it doesn't even need to be LOpgNf0guUu-00854-00201810-00202037 life and death if you if your decision LOpgNf0guUu-00855-00202038-00202319 is something along the lines of your own LOpgNf0guUu-00856-00202320-00202607 example of like the Dutch tax system or LOpgNf0guUu-00857-00202608-00202876 you know anything that affects the lives LOpgNf0guUu-00858-00202877-00203116 of people in any way LOpgNf0guUu-00859-00203117-00203207 um LOpgNf0guUu-00860-00203208-00203795 and the the core of the mother is do we LOpgNf0guUu-00861-00203796-00204040 allow these systems to take over and LOpgNf0guUu-00862-00204041-00204281 make decisions without involvement from LOpgNf0guUu-00863-00204282-00204497 humans and that's the part that feels LOpgNf0guUu-00864-00204498-00204754 wrong right I don't think that we can LOpgNf0guUu-00865-00204755-00204964 really say oh these these systems are LOpgNf0guUu-00866-00204965-00205144 not good enough so we are going to put LOpgNf0guUu-00867-00205146-00205279 them aside LOpgNf0guUu-00868-00205280-00205655 they are very good in certain aspects LOpgNf0guUu-00869-00205656-00205973 and certain domains and they really help LOpgNf0guUu-00870-00205973-00206392 the the process move forward faster as LOpgNf0guUu-00871-00206394-00206621 additional sources of information as LOpgNf0guUu-00872-00206621-00206969 long as we admit that we cannot trust LOpgNf0guUu-00873-00206969-00207173 their judgment a hundred percent and we LOpgNf0guUu-00874-00207173-00207388 need human experts to just use them as LOpgNf0guUu-00875-00207389-00207557 AIDS LOpgNf0guUu-00876-00207558-00207977 um now Disobedience I I'm sorry but from LOpgNf0guUu-00877-00207978-00208234 an Insider's point of view LOpgNf0guUu-00878-00208235-00208516 um I think that I'm saying that I'm LOpgNf0guUu-00879-00208517-00208666 sorry because I LOpgNf0guUu-00880-00208667-00208955 wanna say that this exists in many LOpgNf0guUu-00881-00208956-00209238 machine Learning Systems in the form of LOpgNf0guUu-00882-00209239-00209464 regularization I don't know how many LOpgNf0guUu-00883-00209465-00209662 people have had any courses in machine LOpgNf0guUu-00884-00209663-00209944 learning the idea is don't trust the LOpgNf0guUu-00885-00209946-00210113 data that you have seen a hundred LOpgNf0guUu-00886-00210114-00210382 percent right there is always room LOpgNf0guUu-00887-00210383-00210641 for things you haven't seen before so LOpgNf0guUu-00888-00210642-00210869 leave space for that LOpgNf0guUu-00889-00210869-00211127 and if you actually don't do this LOpgNf0guUu-00890-00211128-00211391 regularization on any variation of it LOpgNf0guUu-00891-00211392-00211703 meaning don't leave any space for LOpgNf0guUu-00892-00211704-00211948 decisions based on things that you LOpgNf0guUu-00893-00211950-00212291 haven't seen yet then your system is LOpgNf0guUu-00894-00212292-00212525 probably not very good at generalizing LOpgNf0guUu-00895-00212526-00212734 to new situations or being transferred LOpgNf0guUu-00896-00212735-00213077 to new domains or facing unseen LOpgNf0guUu-00897-00213078-00213346 circumstances so I I don't think that LOpgNf0guUu-00898-00213348-00213646 when you put catchy names on things LOpgNf0guUu-00899-00213648-00214006 people might react like disobediences LOpgNf0guUu-00900-00214007-00214313 it causes rebellion and it sounds cool LOpgNf0guUu-00901-00214314-00214613 but in in reality and in practice you LOpgNf0guUu-00902-00214614-00214906 have to do it for every simple machine LOpgNf0guUu-00903-00214907-00215158 learning based system if you want to use LOpgNf0guUu-00904-00215159-00215392 them in situations where the system LOpgNf0guUu-00905-00215394-00215615 might want to deal with data that it LOpgNf0guUu-00906-00215616-00215848 hasn't seen in order to generalize in LOpgNf0guUu-00907-00215850-00216077 order to be able to generate on that LOpgNf0guUu-00908-00216078-00216298 note I'd like to ask if you think humans LOpgNf0guUu-00909-00216300-00216575 should supervise you can also address LOpgNf0guUu-00910-00216576-00216737 this question if humans if there should LOpgNf0guUu-00911-00216738-00216953 always be human supervision to any LOpgNf0guUu-00912-00216954-00217156 decisions that an AI algorithm comes LOpgNf0guUu-00913-00217157-00217331 with uh do you think there should always LOpgNf0guUu-00914-00217332-00217577 be someone above so let me just take the LOpgNf0guUu-00915-00217578-00217763 an economic perspective on what we're LOpgNf0guUu-00916-00217764-00217960 discussing so I I won't also talk LOpgNf0guUu-00917-00217961-00218146 specifically about the military LOpgNf0guUu-00918-00218148-00218339 um of course because I don't think LOpgNf0guUu-00919-00218340-00218482 there's anything LOpgNf0guUu-00920-00218483-00218663 particular about that from economic LOpgNf0guUu-00921-00218664-00219094 perspective but the LOpgNf0guUu-00922-00219096-00219251 at the end of the idea this idea of LOpgNf0guUu-00923-00219252-00219539 Disobedience or this idea even of things LOpgNf0guUu-00924-00219540-00219781 like military outcomes LOpgNf0guUu-00925-00219782-00220151 they're they're so LOpgNf0guUu-00926-00220152-00220475 their their value-laden for one and by LOpgNf0guUu-00927-00220476-00220810 value Laden I mean they affect or it LOpgNf0guUu-00928-00220811-00221063 should affect in my opinion if human LOpgNf0guUu-00929-00221064-00221501 being life and economic activity regards LOpgNf0guUu-00930-00221502-00221867 the condition of human life LOpgNf0guUu-00931-00221867-00222041 so when we look at things like LOpgNf0guUu-00932-00222042-00222269 Disobedience we can think of for example LOpgNf0guUu-00933-00222269-00222431 unions LOpgNf0guUu-00934-00222432-00222934 and Union activity in order to to better LOpgNf0guUu-00935-00222935-00223391 wages for Laborers who are trying to LOpgNf0guUu-00936-00223392-00223577 improve LOpgNf0guUu-00937-00223578-00223871 their not just economic conditions but LOpgNf0guUu-00938-00223871-00224015 everything else that we know is LOpgNf0guUu-00939-00224016-00224371 correlated with that so one's education LOpgNf0guUu-00940-00224371-00224758 opportunities one's Health outcomes are LOpgNf0guUu-00941-00224759-00225269 largely affected by economic conditions LOpgNf0guUu-00942-00225269-00225491 so when I think of things like LOpgNf0guUu-00943-00225492-00225677 Disobedience or when I think of things LOpgNf0guUu-00944-00225678-00225784 like LOpgNf0guUu-00945-00225785-00225881 um LOpgNf0guUu-00946-00225882-00226060 you know an example that that you said LOpgNf0guUu-00947-00226061-00226192 if there's some kind of order in the LOpgNf0guUu-00948-00226194-00226342 military context LOpgNf0guUu-00949-00226344-00226582 I think of of those as LOpgNf0guUu-00950-00226583-00226960 people fighting for something of worth LOpgNf0guUu-00951-00226961-00227146 that LOpgNf0guUu-00952-00227148-00227387 meaningfully affects people LOpgNf0guUu-00953-00227388-00227656 and and The Human Condition and of LOpgNf0guUu-00954-00227657-00227903 course there's a lot of AI already in LOpgNf0guUu-00955-00227904-00228071 all of that so we're not just painting a LOpgNf0guUu-00956-00228071-00228269 kind of futuristic picture there's a lot LOpgNf0guUu-00957-00228269-00228460 of AI already being used in military LOpgNf0guUu-00958-00228461-00228832 right context so for example recently LOpgNf0guUu-00959-00228833-00228941 um LOpgNf0guUu-00960-00228942-00229373 so it was discovered that so the F-35 is LOpgNf0guUu-00961-00229373-00229663 one of these sort of um fifth generation LOpgNf0guUu-00962-00229664-00230015 uh Jets that's super advanced LOpgNf0guUu-00963-00230016-00230231 and it was discovered that there's and LOpgNf0guUu-00964-00230232-00230513 it was discovered using AI actually LOpgNf0guUu-00965-00230514-00230710 through the supply chain so the analysis LOpgNf0guUu-00966-00230711-00230915 of the supply chain of these incredibly LOpgNf0guUu-00967-00230916-00231251 complex products that have tens and tens LOpgNf0guUu-00968-00231252-00231508 of thousands of different parts and then LOpgNf0guUu-00969-00231509-00231629 you have to think about each of those LOpgNf0guUu-00970-00231630-00231823 parts are themselves LOpgNf0guUu-00971-00231823-00232079 manufactured using tens and tens of LOpgNf0guUu-00972-00232080-00232265 thousands of other parts and processes LOpgNf0guUu-00973-00232266-00232571 which are themselves right so it's very LOpgNf0guUu-00974-00232571-00232865 hard for for any kind of uh human to LOpgNf0guUu-00975-00232866-00233015 kind of figure that out and they were LOpgNf0guUu-00976-00233016-00233165 using Ai and they discovered that LOpgNf0guUu-00977-00233166-00233339 there's a Chinese alloy LOpgNf0guUu-00978-00233340-00233681 at the end of all this whole chain that LOpgNf0guUu-00979-00233682-00234010 somehow got introduced into making a LOpgNf0guUu-00980-00234011-00234160 part that makes another part that makes LOpgNf0guUu-00981-00234161-00234346 another part that sort of builds up into LOpgNf0guUu-00982-00234348-00234551 this this chat LOpgNf0guUu-00983-00234552-00234863 and uh so they looked at it but you know LOpgNf0guUu-00984-00234864-00235060 they they would have been prepared to LOpgNf0guUu-00985-00235061-00235396 ground all of those fighter jets based LOpgNf0guUu-00986-00235398-00235589 on that and so when I think about you LOpgNf0guUu-00987-00235590-00235744 know not just AI used in that context LOpgNf0guUu-00988-00235746-00235894 but when I think about LOpgNf0guUu-00989-00235896-00236153 what that could tell us about AI also in LOpgNf0guUu-00990-00236154-00236381 general in a kind of military maybe LOpgNf0guUu-00991-00236382-00236873 context is is siled uh forms of AI so LOpgNf0guUu-00992-00236873-00237167 different forms of AI being developed by LOpgNf0guUu-00993-00237167-00237389 different parts of the world LOpgNf0guUu-00994-00237390-00237634 with very different value systems may be LOpgNf0guUu-00995-00237635-00237917 attached to them LOpgNf0guUu-00996-00237917-00238451 so that's just food for thought you know LOpgNf0guUu-00997-00238452-00238648 yeah uh yeah LOpgNf0guUu-00998-00238650-00238775 look at that LOpgNf0guUu-00999-00238776-00239081 um so yeah um I fully agree with what LOpgNf0guUu-01000-00239082-00239242 Joshua said LOpgNf0guUu-01001-00239244-00239519 um again from a you know technical point LOpgNf0guUu-01002-00239519-00239746 of view I also wanted to emphasize this LOpgNf0guUu-01003-00239748-00239867 that LOpgNf0guUu-01004-00239867-00239921 um LOpgNf0guUu-01005-00239921-00240251 you know whatever your question is LOpgNf0guUu-01006-00240252-00240484 whatever your application is you always LOpgNf0guUu-01007-00240485-00240910 map it to certain categories of problems LOpgNf0guUu-01008-00240911-00241192 right so a lot of these problems boil LOpgNf0guUu-01009-00241194-00241384 down to classification LOpgNf0guUu-01010-00241385-00241708 now you train a system that classifies LOpgNf0guUu-01011-00241709-00242008 emails into spam and not spam right but LOpgNf0guUu-01012-00242009-00242298 you can also classify a system that LOpgNf0guUu-01013-00242300-00242675 groups people's faces into terrorists LOpgNf0guUu-01014-00242676-00242842 and not terrorists right so the LOpgNf0guUu-01015-00242844-00243071 underlying nature of the problem is the LOpgNf0guUu-01016-00243071-00243358 same but the labels that you assign to LOpgNf0guUu-01017-00243359-00243641 these classes have really different LOpgNf0guUu-01018-00243642-00243965 ranges of impacts on people's lives LOpgNf0guUu-01019-00243966-00244246 right now this notion of Disobedience LOpgNf0guUu-01020-00244248-00244492 but it also reminds me of the very very LOpgNf0guUu-01021-00244494-00244669 basic LOpgNf0guUu-01022-00244669-00244906 concept in machine learning which is LOpgNf0guUu-01023-00244907-00245153 basically the confidence of the model in LOpgNf0guUu-01024-00245154-00245477 predicting a label right if you force a LOpgNf0guUu-01025-00245478-00245908 model to spit out a label giving an LOpgNf0guUu-01026-00245909-00246155 input set and it calculates LOpgNf0guUu-01027-00246156-00246377 probabilities for these two classes and LOpgNf0guUu-01028-00246378-00246598 one of them is 49 and then the other one LOpgNf0guUu-01029-00246600-00246892 is 51. if it's forced to choose the LOpgNf0guUu-01030-00246894-00247115 Better Label it will spit the one with LOpgNf0guUu-01031-00247116-00247421 51 probability right LOpgNf0guUu-01032-00247421-00247660 um it would look like it's the same LOpgNf0guUu-01033-00247661-00248075 outcome if the probabilities were 199. LOpgNf0guUu-01034-00248076-00248321 but it is really important to pay LOpgNf0guUu-01035-00248321-00248489 attention to and make that much LOpgNf0guUu-01036-00248490-00248746 information we have and based on what we LOpgNf0guUu-01037-00248748-00248992 are making these decisions under which LOpgNf0guUu-01038-00248994-00249203 conditions I think we have a question LOpgNf0guUu-01039-00249204-00249515 from the audience LOpgNf0guUu-01040-00249516-00249623 yeah yeah LOpgNf0guUu-01041-00249623-00249887 it might just be food for thought but I LOpgNf0guUu-01042-00249888-00250048 also have a question about the LOpgNf0guUu-01043-00250050-00250253 implementation of such systems because LOpgNf0guUu-01044-00250254-00250505 uh like we brought up before that LOpgNf0guUu-01045-00250506-00250715 situational computation is extremely LOpgNf0guUu-01046-00250716-00250948 complex and I think there is not a LOpgNf0guUu-01047-00250950-00251177 single environment that might be more LOpgNf0guUu-01048-00251178-00251471 complex for decisions than the war zone LOpgNf0guUu-01049-00251471-00251663 for example because I know that for LOpgNf0guUu-01050-00251664-00251842 example when you take facial recognition LOpgNf0guUu-01051-00251844-00252323 for predicting uh criminal behavior that LOpgNf0guUu-01052-00252323-00252610 these systems already produce a lot of LOpgNf0guUu-01053-00252611-00252865 false positives so that a lot of people LOpgNf0guUu-01054-00252866-00253175 are suspected for criminal Behavior but LOpgNf0guUu-01055-00253176-00253392 the system just decided wrong because LOpgNf0guUu-01056-00253394-00253817 the uh yeah the the environment in the LOpgNf0guUu-01057-00253817-00254032 war zone is super unpredictable and also LOpgNf0guUu-01058-00254033-00254173 needs a lot of LOpgNf0guUu-01059-00254173-00254494 moral agency by the AI system that you LOpgNf0guUu-01060-00254496-00254692 use so I ask myself like how would you LOpgNf0guUu-01061-00254694-00254992 start even to begin thinking about this LOpgNf0guUu-01062-00254994-00255160 because it's a super unpredictable LOpgNf0guUu-01063-00255161-00255358 environment for the AI as well like how LOpgNf0guUu-01064-00255359-00255617 would you start testing out if these LOpgNf0guUu-01065-00255617-00255760 system would even work in the first LOpgNf0guUu-01066-00255761-00255892 place because the environment is LOpgNf0guUu-01067-00255894-00256115 extremely unpredictable and I think that LOpgNf0guUu-01068-00256116-00256319 we are still very far away from that if LOpgNf0guUu-01069-00256319-00256505 I'm not mistaken LOpgNf0guUu-01070-00256506-00256673 on on that note do you think we should LOpgNf0guUu-01071-00256673-00256871 have simulations of the environment LOpgNf0guUu-01072-00256871-00257117 before obviously a simulation always has LOpgNf0guUu-01073-00257117-00257339 limitations and by definition a LOpgNf0guUu-01074-00257340-00257471 simulation is less complex than the LOpgNf0guUu-01075-00257471-00257710 environment but if we make an agent LOpgNf0guUu-01076-00257711-00257891 let's say for the military an LOpgNf0guUu-01077-00257892-00258077 intelligent system should it first be LOpgNf0guUu-01078-00258078-00258275 put into a simulation of how we think it LOpgNf0guUu-01079-00258276-00258455 would operate in the real world and then LOpgNf0guUu-01080-00258456-00258592 see how it works LOpgNf0guUu-01081-00258594-00258760 which is kind of you're already putting LOpgNf0guUu-01082-00258761-00259030 an AI into a simulation so I was just LOpgNf0guUu-01083-00259031-00259108 gonna LOpgNf0guUu-01084-00259109-00259313 I think it's there's no simple answer LOpgNf0guUu-01085-00259314-00259582 obviously to this but maybe something to LOpgNf0guUu-01086-00259583-00259775 think about is this idea of of LOpgNf0guUu-01087-00259776-00259937 consequences LOpgNf0guUu-01088-00259938-00260315 and um and if of course we can we can LOpgNf0guUu-01089-00260316-00260537 say in some ways that AI you could LOpgNf0guUu-01090-00260538-00260758 program into it somehow that there are LOpgNf0guUu-01091-00260759-00260987 consequences to the AI suddenly loses LOpgNf0guUu-01092-00260988-00261179 processing power or something that's its LOpgNf0guUu-01093-00261180-00261425 punishment you know who knows but at the LOpgNf0guUu-01094-00261426-00261605 end of the day that I don't find that LOpgNf0guUu-01095-00261606-00261844 particularly interesting I think what LOpgNf0guUu-01096-00261846-00262084 matters it's my point of view but I LOpgNf0guUu-01097-00262085-00262253 think what's what's important is to LOpgNf0guUu-01098-00262254-00262517 think about human consequences LOpgNf0guUu-01099-00262518-00262810 I I don't know how we can spend a lot of LOpgNf0guUu-01100-00262811-00263147 time thinking about other consequences LOpgNf0guUu-01101-00263148-00263405 I mean this is the world that we we live LOpgNf0guUu-01102-00263406-00263663 in we occupy and and we have some agency LOpgNf0guUu-01103-00263664-00263789 over it LOpgNf0guUu-01104-00263790-00264010 and of course going to war and the LOpgNf0guUu-01105-00264011-00264245 decisions that we make I think should be LOpgNf0guUu-01106-00264246-00264556 our consequences and if LOpgNf0guUu-01107-00264557-00264797 if you because the situation is the LOpgNf0guUu-01108-00264798-00265030 complexity you brought up they also lead LOpgNf0guUu-01109-00265031-00265271 to very imperfect actions by human LOpgNf0guUu-01110-00265272-00265427 beings there's no question about it it's LOpgNf0guUu-01111-00265428-00265625 not just that a I can't cope with that LOpgNf0guUu-01112-00265626-00265901 Dynamic and that complexity LOpgNf0guUu-01113-00265902-00266165 it's people can't either LOpgNf0guUu-01114-00266166-00266363 and they do all kinds of terrible things LOpgNf0guUu-01115-00266364-00266656 and they're terrible outcomes but then LOpgNf0guUu-01116-00266657-00266849 we have these other institutions we have LOpgNf0guUu-01117-00266850-00267082 legal systems and things like this that LOpgNf0guUu-01118-00267083-00267293 are there to handle LOpgNf0guUu-01119-00267294-00267532 atrocities that come out of these things LOpgNf0guUu-01120-00267533-00267695 and there's some kind of accountability LOpgNf0guUu-01121-00267696-00267827 and I know you're going to get to LOpgNf0guUu-01122-00267828-00267982 accountability at some point but there's LOpgNf0guUu-01123-00267983-00268339 there's some kind of consequence LOpgNf0guUu-01124-00268340-00268679 to humans and that if you know that we LOpgNf0guUu-01125-00268680-00268913 can really identify with LOpgNf0guUu-01126-00268914-00269141 and that's what's truly important LOpgNf0guUu-01127-00269142-00269339 that's just my opinion that's that's LOpgNf0guUu-01128-00269340-00269632 where I'm at after you know doing AI for LOpgNf0guUu-01129-00269633-00269987 almost 20 years myself in applied ways LOpgNf0guUu-01130-00269988-00270232 I basically reached that conclusion it's LOpgNf0guUu-01131-00270233-00270521 not it's not the deepest conclusion to LOpgNf0guUu-01132-00270522-00270671 to get at perhaps it's not the most LOpgNf0guUu-01133-00270672-00270887 sophisticated but at the end of the day LOpgNf0guUu-01134-00270888-00271030 I just think at the end of the day we LOpgNf0guUu-01135-00271031-00271384 just need to keep the human and and our LOpgNf0guUu-01136-00271385-00271763 values at the Forefront and and build LOpgNf0guUu-01137-00271764-00272147 these systems in in ways that LOpgNf0guUu-01138-00272148-00272387 we understand how they're working as LOpgNf0guUu-01139-00272388-00272591 well as the outcomes that we see and all LOpgNf0guUu-01140-00272592-00272747 right keep that in mind all right well LOpgNf0guUu-01141-00272748-00272915 thank you very much uh everyone we're LOpgNf0guUu-01142-00272916-00273221 gonna have a 10 minute break so we'll be LOpgNf0guUu-01143-00273222-00273403 rejoining at about LOpgNf0guUu-01144-00273404-00273677 uh five LOpgNf0guUu-01145-00273678-00273934 sixteen five Seventeen please be on time LOpgNf0guUu-01146-00273935-00274121 but yeah you're free to go to the LOpgNf0guUu-01147-00274122-00274427 bathroom Etc so to welcome us back we LOpgNf0guUu-01148-00274428-00274606 are starting off with a hypothetical LOpgNf0guUu-01149-00274607-00274925 which is the following uh an AI LOpgNf0guUu-01150-00274926-00275134 engineered and so by a private company LOpgNf0guUu-01151-00275135-00275351 which has replaced the role of a LOpgNf0guUu-01152-00275352-00275460 radiologist LOpgNf0guUu-01153-00275461-00275687 misdiagnosed a patient and its mistake LOpgNf0guUu-01154-00275688-00275921 led to the death of the patient the LOpgNf0guUu-01155-00275922-00276089 family of set patients sued the hospital LOpgNf0guUu-01156-00276090-00276299 holding them accountable for the fault LOpgNf0guUu-01157-00276300-00276575 of the AI the court rules in favor of LOpgNf0guUu-01158-00276576-00276913 the family and sanctions the hospital LOpgNf0guUu-01159-00276914-00277295 now I think for Josh I'll actually like LOpgNf0guUu-01160-00277296-00277487 to begin by asking you if you think it LOpgNf0guUu-01161-00277488-00277601 would be wrong to hold the hospital LOpgNf0guUu-01162-00277602-00277847 responsible for the misdiagnosis or what LOpgNf0guUu-01163-00277848-00278056 do you think well I would say that again LOpgNf0guUu-01164-00278057-00278237 it'll be the certain institutions that LOpgNf0guUu-01165-00278238-00278458 are responsible for that in terms of LOpgNf0guUu-01166-00278459-00278849 Regulation and then just through a LOpgNf0guUu-01167-00278850-00279137 series of lawsuits there would be some LOpgNf0guUu-01168-00279138-00279479 kind of judgment that emerges so it's a LOpgNf0guUu-01169-00279480-00279791 social in the end it's a social socially LOpgNf0guUu-01170-00279792-00279947 constructed LOpgNf0guUu-01171-00279948-00280025 um LOpgNf0guUu-01172-00280026-00280355 set of of norms that will emerge in LOpgNf0guUu-01173-00280356-00280547 terms of who will be responsible LOpgNf0guUu-01174-00280548-00280732 but in terms of an economic perspective LOpgNf0guUu-01175-00280733-00280949 on it I'd say well a couple of things LOpgNf0guUu-01176-00280950-00281195 one is of course the price of that LOpgNf0guUu-01177-00281196-00281417 litigation and the price of uncertainty LOpgNf0guUu-01178-00281418-00281687 will be factored into these services so LOpgNf0guUu-01179-00281688-00281891 they'll you know they're meant in some LOpgNf0guUu-01180-00281892-00281993 ways LOpgNf0guUu-01181-00281994-00282173 you know this particular example has LOpgNf0guUu-01182-00282174-00282551 benefits in several ways one is just to LOpgNf0guUu-01183-00282552-00282653 make LOpgNf0guUu-01184-00282654-00282923 um the evaluation because we know the LOpgNf0guUu-01185-00282924-00283397 human evaluation uh even for very clear LOpgNf0guUu-01186-00283398-00283480 um LOpgNf0guUu-01187-00283481-00283732 set of conditions LOpgNf0guUu-01188-00283733-00284051 it wavers a lot it's it's very it can be LOpgNf0guUu-01189-00284052-00284321 very unsystematic so at least by using LOpgNf0guUu-01190-00284322-00284579 some kind of AI technology you can make LOpgNf0guUu-01191-00284580-00284813 it systematic whether it's correct or LOpgNf0guUu-01192-00284814-00285160 not at least will be reliable and of LOpgNf0guUu-01193-00285161-00285365 course you want it to be valid over time LOpgNf0guUu-01194-00285366-00285532 but but we know that there's lots of LOpgNf0guUu-01195-00285533-00285784 studies that show that in economics that LOpgNf0guUu-01196-00285785-00286049 look at various types of LOpgNf0guUu-01197-00286050-00286258 decision making that needs to take place LOpgNf0guUu-01198-00286259-00286475 where that reliability is not there and LOpgNf0guUu-01199-00286476-00286606 it could be anything from the time of LOpgNf0guUu-01200-00286607-00286769 day to what somebody had for breakfast LOpgNf0guUu-01201-00286770-00286980 to whether there's sun outside I mean LOpgNf0guUu-01202-00286981-00287351 you know we're extremely irrational LOpgNf0guUu-01203-00287352-00287608 um even when we are exercising some very LOpgNf0guUu-01204-00287609-00287908 specific tasks at hand LOpgNf0guUu-01205-00287909-00288155 and so we get these unexpected outcomes LOpgNf0guUu-01206-00288156-00288382 so there's obviously an advantage to LOpgNf0guUu-01207-00288383-00288658 having that that kind of reliability LOpgNf0guUu-01208-00288659-00288982 um and the other is there's possible uh LOpgNf0guUu-01209-00288983-00289169 productivity benefits that can come from LOpgNf0guUu-01210-00289170-00289343 it right so if it's an AI it would take LOpgNf0guUu-01211-00289344-00289517 less time LOpgNf0guUu-01212-00289518-00289703 um and it's something we haven't seen a LOpgNf0guUu-01213-00289704-00289810 lot of LOpgNf0guUu-01214-00289811-00290051 um so again economically we've seen a LOpgNf0guUu-01215-00290052-00290308 lot of advantages or gains in LOpgNf0guUu-01216-00290309-00290506 productivity in the manufacturing sector LOpgNf0guUu-01217-00290507-00290771 but but very few so far in the services LOpgNf0guUu-01218-00290772-00291017 sector in fact this example you bring up LOpgNf0guUu-01219-00291018-00291401 of a you know you could also it's some LOpgNf0guUu-01220-00291402-00291601 kind of you know Hospital LOpgNf0guUu-01221-00291602-00291960 specialist as a kind of specialist in in LOpgNf0guUu-01222-00291961-00292265 Radiology for example that that's one of LOpgNf0guUu-01223-00292266-00292493 the fastest growing LOpgNf0guUu-01224-00292494-00292780 areas in the labor market LOpgNf0guUu-01225-00292781-00293063 so I'm using the us as a context because LOpgNf0guUu-01226-00293064-00293249 of the size of that market but that LOpgNf0guUu-01227-00293250-00293458 that's one of the kinds of roles that is LOpgNf0guUu-01228-00293459-00293734 the fastest growing so it's it's a labor LOpgNf0guUu-01229-00293735-00293951 intensive and that's not for AI but LOpgNf0guUu-01230-00293952-00294167 that's for hiring people it's a very LOpgNf0guUu-01231-00294168-00294323 labor-intensive LOpgNf0guUu-01232-00294324-00294432 um LOpgNf0guUu-01233-00294433-00294701 role that's actually increasing and it's LOpgNf0guUu-01234-00294702-00294943 very well paid in addition LOpgNf0guUu-01235-00294944-00295210 so there would be potentially some LOpgNf0guUu-01236-00295211-00295403 advantages to using this kind of LOpgNf0guUu-01237-00295404-00295601 Technology LOpgNf0guUu-01238-00295602-00296051 to to see productivity gains uh made and LOpgNf0guUu-01239-00296052-00296230 of course in terms of health outcomes to LOpgNf0guUu-01240-00296231-00296508 improve possible Health outcomes right LOpgNf0guUu-01241-00296509-00296795 especially because the AIS could be LOpgNf0guUu-01242-00296796-00296980 argued that they have a better margin of LOpgNf0guUu-01243-00296981-00297263 error than human doctors right LOpgNf0guUu-01244-00297264-00297484 well there's there's studies to show LOpgNf0guUu-01245-00297485-00297689 that already yeah right so we already we LOpgNf0guUu-01246-00297690-00297821 already know that that they've already LOpgNf0guUu-01247-00297822-00298127 done this for for at least the last 10 LOpgNf0guUu-01248-00298128-00298432 years looking at the performance of LOpgNf0guUu-01249-00298433-00298745 human evaluators in the medical context LOpgNf0guUu-01250-00298746-00299032 uh who have you know who are experts and LOpgNf0guUu-01251-00299033-00299225 then these expert systems so this is a LOpgNf0guUu-01252-00299226-00299429 type of expert system that you're that LOpgNf0guUu-01253-00299430-00299717 you're um alluding to here LOpgNf0guUu-01254-00299718-00299867 and LOpgNf0guUu-01255-00299868-00300382 um that these AI systems are much better LOpgNf0guUu-01256-00300383-00300677 yes of course LOpgNf0guUu-01257-00300678-00300905 this is totally true of course uh and LOpgNf0guUu-01258-00300906-00301210 very important at the same time uh two LOpgNf0guUu-01259-00301211-00301469 things one we hold technology to LOpgNf0guUu-01260-00301470-00301630 different standards than human beings LOpgNf0guUu-01261-00301631-00301906 you know I require guarantees about a LOpgNf0guUu-01262-00301907-00302069 bridge that I wouldn't ask from people LOpgNf0guUu-01263-00302070-00302410 that carry me across or something so we LOpgNf0guUu-01264-00302411-00302645 have as AI people LOpgNf0guUu-01265-00302646-00302897 to learn that simply saying we're better LOpgNf0guUu-01266-00302898-00303125 than human beings in terms of less LOpgNf0guUu-01267-00303126-00303395 errors is not going to be sufficient we LOpgNf0guUu-01268-00303396-00303587 have to look very critically at the high LOpgNf0guUu-01269-00303588-00303779 standards that standard technology think LOpgNf0guUu-01270-00303780-00303995 airplane industry or something is LOpgNf0guUu-01271-00303996-00304156 applied to and we have to apply that to LOpgNf0guUu-01272-00304157-00304265 ourselves LOpgNf0guUu-01273-00304266-00304380 second LOpgNf0guUu-01274-00304381-00304817 human errors are tend to be random LOpgNf0guUu-01275-00304818-00304991 like what you said did you have lunch LOpgNf0guUu-01276-00304992-00305171 yet or not or you know is it raining LOpgNf0guUu-01277-00305172-00305489 outside one of the big risks of AI is LOpgNf0guUu-01278-00305490-00305680 that there are systematic pattern when LOpgNf0guUu-01279-00305681-00305939 the errors occur and that it's going to LOpgNf0guUu-01280-00305940-00306179 be vulnerable people marginalized groups LOpgNf0guUu-01281-00306180-00306479 that will get a large share of the LOpgNf0guUu-01282-00306480-00306760 errors than maybe other people in part LOpgNf0guUu-01283-00306761-00306977 because they're being helped by systems LOpgNf0guUu-01284-00306978-00307217 whereas the let's say more Rich get LOpgNf0guUu-01285-00307218-00307469 helped by people so that's another thing LOpgNf0guUu-01286-00307470-00307673 that we have to be very aware of LOpgNf0guUu-01287-00307674-00307865 so it's not undermining the argument I LOpgNf0guUu-01288-00307866-00308123 totally understand it in unless error is LOpgNf0guUu-01289-00308124-00308453 always better but there are additional LOpgNf0guUu-01290-00308454-00308717 quality controls that were still in the LOpgNf0guUu-01291-00308718-00308956 process of developing an AI I think that LOpgNf0guUu-01292-00308957-00309106 we have to take into account more LOpgNf0guUu-01293-00309107-00309301 seriously LOpgNf0guUu-01294-00309302-00309551 uh Frank if you have anything to add LOpgNf0guUu-01295-00309552-00309827 then offer yeah and remind me of uh of LOpgNf0guUu-01296-00309828-00310223 the problem of the Dilemma huh so uh I LOpgNf0guUu-01297-00310224-00310469 think we're all familiar with the uh for LOpgNf0guUu-01298-00310470-00310606 the clear experiments of the trolley LOpgNf0guUu-01299-00310607-00310871 Problem by flipper foot and then the uh LOpgNf0guUu-01300-00310872-00311123 the doctor uh uh LOpgNf0guUu-01301-00311124-00311356 thought experiment so you have like five LOpgNf0guUu-01302-00311357-00311579 people or if you could actually uh for LOpgNf0guUu-01303-00311580-00311717 the audience yeah of course so you have LOpgNf0guUu-01304-00311718-00311849 five five people who are in desperate LOpgNf0guUu-01305-00311850-00312125 need of of transplant organs otherwise LOpgNf0guUu-01306-00312126-00312317 they will die and you'll have one LOpgNf0guUu-01307-00312318-00312484 perfectly healthy human being which LOpgNf0guUu-01308-00312485-00312701 happened to have all the organs that you LOpgNf0guUu-01309-00312702-00312880 need and they're just compatible one LOpgNf0guUu-01310-00312881-00313030 other so the question is can you LOpgNf0guUu-01311-00313031-00313367 sacrifice one person for the benefit of LOpgNf0guUu-01312-00313368-00313517 five others and the trolley problem and LOpgNf0guUu-01313-00313518-00313643 the doctor product just travel to LOpgNf0guUu-01314-00313644-00313937 iterations of the same problem and well LOpgNf0guUu-01315-00313938-00314129 these kinds of dilemmas of course are LOpgNf0guUu-01316-00314130-00314321 very much found especially well in LOpgNf0guUu-01317-00314322-00314477 military application but also in medical LOpgNf0guUu-01318-00314478-00314741 application medical context and also a LOpgNf0guUu-01319-00314742-00315119 thing that is extremely hard to we find LOpgNf0guUu-01320-00315120-00315256 it extremely hard to make our own LOpgNf0guUu-01321-00315257-00315593 decision let alone try to learn a a LOpgNf0guUu-01322-00315594-00315845 robot to make that kind of decisions for LOpgNf0guUu-01323-00315846-00315923 us LOpgNf0guUu-01324-00315924-00316213 foreign LOpgNf0guUu-01325-00316214-00316469 so I agree with all of the arguments LOpgNf0guUu-01326-00316470-00316691 that were made I just wanted to make one LOpgNf0guUu-01327-00316692-00316991 extra point that it is dangerous to talk LOpgNf0guUu-01328-00316992-00317417 about AI as if it's one entity and LOpgNf0guUu-01329-00317418-00317615 humans as if we have just the LOpgNf0guUu-01330-00317616-00317927 homogeneous pattern of behavior there is LOpgNf0guUu-01331-00317928-00318208 massive individual difference if you put LOpgNf0guUu-01332-00318209-00318454 an extra an experienced cardiologist LOpgNf0guUu-01333-00318455-00318730 next to an intern who was trained for LOpgNf0guUu-01334-00318731-00319013 three months the of course both can make LOpgNf0guUu-01335-00319014-00319282 mistakes but the nature of range of LOpgNf0guUu-01336-00319283-00319408 these mistakes are very different from LOpgNf0guUu-01337-00319409-00319630 each other the same argument applies to LOpgNf0guUu-01338-00319631-00319847 artificial intelligence and to automatic LOpgNf0guUu-01339-00319848-00320225 systems it really depends on how the LOpgNf0guUu-01340-00320226-00320417 system was built under which conditions LOpgNf0guUu-01341-00320418-00320621 it was trained under which conditions it LOpgNf0guUu-01342-00320622-00321004 was tested so of course someone has to LOpgNf0guUu-01343-00321005-00321191 take responsibility of course the LOpgNf0guUu-01344-00321192-00321413 hospital is responsible they have to LOpgNf0guUu-01345-00321414-00321665 justify why they chose a particular LOpgNf0guUu-01346-00321666-00322067 system to replace a radiologist they LOpgNf0guUu-01347-00322068-00322306 have to justify it and we have all seen LOpgNf0guUu-01348-00322307-00322504 especially during the coronal time that LOpgNf0guUu-01349-00322505-00322745 with the health system under extreme LOpgNf0guUu-01350-00322746-00322991 pressure these automated systems can LOpgNf0guUu-01351-00322992-00323401 save lives really but the LOpgNf0guUu-01352-00323402-00323687 toward the such choices have to be able LOpgNf0guUu-01353-00323688-00324082 to people who make these decision making LOpgNf0guUu-01354-00324083-00324353 have to be able to defend them right uh LOpgNf0guUu-01355-00324354-00324449 actually we'll take that question from LOpgNf0guUu-01356-00324450-00324823 the audience Dennis LOpgNf0guUu-01357-00324824-00325060 you can just give out the question to us LOpgNf0guUu-01358-00325061-00325877 and I'll repeat it LOpgNf0guUu-01359-00325878-00326093 partially be responsible LOpgNf0guUu-01360-00326094-00326393 in a legal sense normally the patient LOpgNf0guUu-01361-00326394-00326530 would hold a household on the council LOpgNf0guUu-01362-00326531-00326741 and then the hospital would hold the LOpgNf0guUu-01363-00326742-00326951 company accountable so that's like a LOpgNf0guUu-01364-00326952-00327130 chain reaction so if I understand the LOpgNf0guUu-01365-00327131-00327358 question correctly it's about holding LOpgNf0guUu-01366-00327359-00327545 the company that actually built the AI LOpgNf0guUu-01367-00327546-00327899 responsible instead of the hospital LOpgNf0guUu-01368-00327900-00328330 just to to to take that up uh yes but LOpgNf0guUu-01369-00328331-00328541 it's even more complicated because you LOpgNf0guUu-01370-00328542-00328708 have for instance companies that build LOpgNf0guUu-01371-00328709-00328877 neural networks and other companies that LOpgNf0guUu-01372-00328878-00329069 provide the data for training LOpgNf0guUu-01373-00329070-00329291 so then where where does the error come LOpgNf0guUu-01374-00329292-00329554 from and that means and this is what I LOpgNf0guUu-01375-00329555-00329801 said earlier about quality control LOpgNf0guUu-01376-00329802-00330167 we really need in Ai and this is really LOpgNf0guUu-01377-00330168-00330563 urgent uh a very cohesive set of rules LOpgNf0guUu-01378-00330564-00330880 and regulations to determine who is LOpgNf0guUu-01379-00330881-00331204 responsible for what ideally I once made LOpgNf0guUu-01380-00331205-00331360 a suggestion for instance with robots LOpgNf0guUu-01381-00331361-00331582 that they act under human supervision LOpgNf0guUu-01382-00331583-00331745 and they keep track themselves a little LOpgNf0guUu-01383-00331746-00331967 bit like a black box in an airplane of LOpgNf0guUu-01384-00331968-00332153 under whose authority they're currently LOpgNf0guUu-01385-00332154-00332434 operating and so the moment like in a LOpgNf0guUu-01386-00332435-00332621 hospital you know someone else would use LOpgNf0guUu-01387-00332622-00332884 the system then the responsibility LOpgNf0guUu-01388-00332885-00333089 transfers to that person and you can LOpgNf0guUu-01389-00333090-00333460 track and Trace where exactly the human LOpgNf0guUu-01390-00333461-00333732 responsibility resides LOpgNf0guUu-01391-00333733-00334037 yeah for instance but we need to do that LOpgNf0guUu-01392-00334038-00334301 in advance so the problem now is that we LOpgNf0guUu-01393-00334302-00334480 we get these kind of cases and law is LOpgNf0guUu-01394-00334481-00334739 not really suited yet not updated enough LOpgNf0guUu-01395-00334740-00334997 to to take care of such questions LOpgNf0guUu-01396-00334998-00335308 and in a way that's irresponsible LOpgNf0guUu-01397-00335309-00335501 um so we we really have to up our game LOpgNf0guUu-01398-00335502-00335699 in this in that sense LOpgNf0guUu-01399-00335700-00335939 so in terms of accountability uh we need LOpgNf0guUu-01400-00335940-00336077 to start thinking about these topics now LOpgNf0guUu-01401-00336078-00336334 yes if you'd like to add and also you LOpgNf0guUu-01402-00336335-00336460 know this is a specific example of an LOpgNf0guUu-01403-00336461-00336773 evaluation exercise so I think in in you LOpgNf0guUu-01404-00336774-00337013 know apart from the accountability uh LOpgNf0guUu-01405-00337014-00337277 question there's LOpgNf0guUu-01406-00337278-00337456 there's maybe as I said before some LOpgNf0guUu-01407-00337457-00337630 efficiency to be had in some kind of LOpgNf0guUu-01408-00337631-00337895 evaluation decision-making exercise but LOpgNf0guUu-01409-00337896-00338032 if we're looking at the healthcare LOpgNf0guUu-01410-00338033-00338219 sector in general LOpgNf0guUu-01411-00338220-00338441 a service sector there might also be LOpgNf0guUu-01412-00338442-00338608 good reason to have inefficiencies in LOpgNf0guUu-01413-00338609-00338791 that and there might be certain things LOpgNf0guUu-01414-00338792-00338975 it might be things that we actually LOpgNf0guUu-01415-00338976-00339191 value that we don't necessarily always LOpgNf0guUu-01416-00339192-00339593 want efficiency in that system as well LOpgNf0guUu-01417-00339594-00339797 um and and you know LOpgNf0guUu-01418-00339798-00340049 that's part of the reason probably why LOpgNf0guUu-01419-00340050-00340193 there hasn't been that much productivity LOpgNf0guUu-01420-00340194-00340379 gain in the service sector versus the LOpgNf0guUu-01421-00340380-00340582 the manufacturing sector so even as LOpgNf0guUu-01422-00340583-00340829 these systems get more intelligent LOpgNf0guUu-01423-00340830-00341087 it isn't always necessarily and and we LOpgNf0guUu-01424-00341088-00341254 can get into sentience as well but I LOpgNf0guUu-01425-00341255-00341437 mean at the end of the day there's also LOpgNf0guUu-01426-00341438-00341741 uh we gain a lot from social interaction LOpgNf0guUu-01427-00341742-00341969 and interaction with other human beings LOpgNf0guUu-01428-00341970-00342179 and that's also part of our well-being LOpgNf0guUu-01429-00342180-00342521 and something to consider also in the in LOpgNf0guUu-01430-00342522-00342749 the health sector so you're saying for LOpgNf0guUu-01431-00342750-00343006 example uh even if we find that it's LOpgNf0guUu-01432-00343007-00343253 more efficient to have an AI uh take LOpgNf0guUu-01433-00343254-00343439 charge of the job of Radiologists it LOpgNf0guUu-01434-00343440-00343601 could still be beneficial to have a LOpgNf0guUu-01435-00343602-00343787 doctor because for our own well-being LOpgNf0guUu-01436-00343788-00343943 and that type of conversation for LOpgNf0guUu-01437-00343944-00344069 example talking to the doctor as a LOpgNf0guUu-01438-00344070-00344195 person that might make a person LOpgNf0guUu-01439-00344196-00344380 healthier uh it's good for our LOpgNf0guUu-01440-00344381-00344579 well-beingness I I would hope that we LOpgNf0guUu-01441-00344580-00345053 have human beings of uh of great skill LOpgNf0guUu-01442-00345054-00345323 in both their their area of expertise LOpgNf0guUu-01443-00345324-00345599 but also in sort of their LOpgNf0guUu-01444-00345600-00345773 um kind of emotional intelligence LOpgNf0guUu-01445-00345774-00346084 involved in the health care sector LOpgNf0guUu-01446-00346085-00346451 um along with AI which can serve some LOpgNf0guUu-01447-00346452-00346721 very kind of rule-based evaluation LOpgNf0guUu-01448-00346722-00346991 exercise where of course it needs the LOpgNf0guUu-01449-00346992-00347158 appropriate data LOpgNf0guUu-01450-00347159-00347351 to draw from in order to make sure also LOpgNf0guUu-01451-00347352-00347525 that it is LOpgNf0guUu-01452-00347526-00347758 um performing equally well for different LOpgNf0guUu-01453-00347759-00348004 kinds of people but that's an issue we LOpgNf0guUu-01454-00348005-00348154 already have with the health care LOpgNf0guUu-01455-00348155-00348413 sectors we already know that much of the LOpgNf0guUu-01456-00348414-00348706 research is done only on males white LOpgNf0guUu-01457-00348707-00349013 males of a certain age and so there's LOpgNf0guUu-01458-00349014-00349354 already that issue in in healthcare and LOpgNf0guUu-01459-00349355-00349606 we wouldn't want to exacerbate it uh you LOpgNf0guUu-01460-00349607-00349799 know now with AI but we have to still LOpgNf0guUu-01461-00349800-00349979 deal with those fundamental LOpgNf0guUu-01462-00349980-00350254 weaknesses we already have which is we LOpgNf0guUu-01463-00350255-00350495 know very little about the physiology of LOpgNf0guUu-01464-00350496-00350806 of female compared to male and very LOpgNf0guUu-01465-00350807-00351030 little in terms of other ethnic groups LOpgNf0guUu-01466-00351031-00351329 other than white Caucasians do you think LOpgNf0guUu-01467-00351330-00351551 that's something that employing expert LOpgNf0guUu-01468-00351552-00351803 systems could uh that could that Gap be LOpgNf0guUu-01469-00351804-00352006 bridged uh if for example we're trying LOpgNf0guUu-01470-00352007-00352265 to do research into uh having more data LOpgNf0guUu-01471-00352266-00352445 about these groups that are less LOpgNf0guUu-01472-00352446-00352654 represented could AIS help that yes LOpgNf0guUu-01473-00352655-00352877 because again it's uh it's like LOpgNf0guUu-01474-00352878-00353008 transactional LOpgNf0guUu-01475-00353009-00353321 way so if I think of it from a agent LOpgNf0guUu-01476-00353322-00353519 from an economic agency point of view LOpgNf0guUu-01477-00353520-00353758 which is once we've decided that's what LOpgNf0guUu-01478-00353759-00353891 we want to do LOpgNf0guUu-01479-00353892-00354089 then what are the tools that we can do LOpgNf0guUu-01480-00354090-00354263 in order to execute that in an efficient LOpgNf0guUu-01481-00354264-00354503 way and AI certainly allows us to LOpgNf0guUu-01482-00354504-00354743 execute what we know we want to achieve LOpgNf0guUu-01483-00354744-00354941 in an efficient way LOpgNf0guUu-01484-00354942-00355223 but the decision to to do that and to LOpgNf0guUu-01485-00355224-00355480 and to deploy the resources that way is LOpgNf0guUu-01486-00355481-00355739 uh is a human decision so I think once LOpgNf0guUu-01487-00355740-00355919 we make that decision LOpgNf0guUu-01488-00355920-00356080 and it could be that having that LOpgNf0guUu-01489-00356081-00356284 technology available helps us make that LOpgNf0guUu-01490-00356285-00356434 decision also LOpgNf0guUu-01491-00356435-00356710 because the technology changes also our LOpgNf0guUu-01492-00356711-00357130 set of options LOpgNf0guUu-01493-00357131-00357341 yeah well speaking of decisions I'd LOpgNf0guUu-01494-00357342-00357539 actually like to hear and maybe uh see a LOpgNf0guUu-01495-00357540-00357773 show of cards in the audience uh do you LOpgNf0guUu-01496-00357774-00358013 think that decisions ultimately should LOpgNf0guUu-01497-00358014-00358360 be made by humans would you be okay with LOpgNf0guUu-01498-00358361-00358654 an AI for example making a diagnosis or LOpgNf0guUu-01499-00358655-00358973 should AI merely provide suggestions for LOpgNf0guUu-01500-00358974-00359177 doctors and the doctors ultimately who LOpgNf0guUu-01501-00359178-00359465 makes the decision based on the input uh LOpgNf0guUu-01502-00359466-00359741 green would be you'd be okay with AIS LOpgNf0guUu-01503-00359742-00360004 making such decisions red would be I LOpgNf0guUu-01504-00360005-00360149 would prefer to have a doctor at hand LOpgNf0guUu-01505-00360150-00360406 that supervises the process LOpgNf0guUu-01506-00360407-00360880 different LOpgNf0guUu-01507-00360881-00361258 now very interesting would uh with some LOpgNf0guUu-01508-00361259-00361499 of your mind I see very few green cards LOpgNf0guUu-01509-00361500-00361769 and mostly red cards uh with some of LOpgNf0guUu-01510-00361770-00362021 your mind uh raise your card your red LOpgNf0guUu-01511-00362022-00362189 card again LOpgNf0guUu-01512-00362190-00362399 wait sorry green cards were the very LOpgNf0guUu-01513-00362400-00362543 fewer uh raise your green card if you're LOpgNf0guUu-01514-00362544-00362675 okay with you want to say your your LOpgNf0guUu-01515-00362676-00362813 opinion out loud but you'd be okay with LOpgNf0guUu-01516-00362814-00363010 that would that be okay LOpgNf0guUu-01517-00363011-00364445 yes you can LOpgNf0guUu-01518-00364446-00364549 uh LOpgNf0guUu-01519-00364550-00364763 okay so if I understand this correctly LOpgNf0guUu-01520-00364764-00365021 if the AI reached a certain point where LOpgNf0guUu-01521-00365022-00365104 it's LOpgNf0guUu-01522-00365105-00365339 we would reaches a kind of accuracy that LOpgNf0guUu-01523-00365340-00365591 is acceptably good then it is the expert LOpgNf0guUu-01524-00365592-00365789 of that field and the human has no role LOpgNf0guUu-01525-00365790-00365891 in it LOpgNf0guUu-01526-00365892-00366095 what would you would the speakers have a LOpgNf0guUu-01527-00366096-00366227 remark on that would you still say even LOpgNf0guUu-01528-00366228-00366425 if we can prove that an AI is more LOpgNf0guUu-01529-00366426-00366575 accurate in such diagnosis would you LOpgNf0guUu-01530-00366576-00366784 still want the decision to be made by an LOpgNf0guUu-01531-00366785-00367553 expert right LOpgNf0guUu-01532-00367554-00367751 some has been evaluated so there are LOpgNf0guUu-01533-00367752-00368154 certain domains such as image processing LOpgNf0guUu-01534-00368155-00368482 uh in which we now have automatic LOpgNf0guUu-01535-00368483-00368687 systems that are better at detecting LOpgNf0guUu-01536-00368688-00368975 certain types of tumors by scales of you LOpgNf0guUu-01537-00368976-00369310 know by degrees of magnitude than human LOpgNf0guUu-01538-00369311-00369521 doctors LOpgNf0guUu-01539-00369522-00369791 um and so if you test the system enough LOpgNf0guUu-01540-00369792-00370019 then you are sure that it's not biased LOpgNf0guUu-01541-00370020-00370271 towards a certain type of ethnicity or LOpgNf0guUu-01542-00370272-00370630 age range or gender I really don't see LOpgNf0guUu-01543-00370631-00370925 the reason not to trust these systems LOpgNf0guUu-01544-00370926-00371093 um however if you just you know LOpgNf0guUu-01545-00371094-00371278 automatically just press a button and LOpgNf0guUu-01546-00371279-00371560 then send the patient to the operation LOpgNf0guUu-01547-00371561-00372077 room that makes me also feel uneasy so I LOpgNf0guUu-01548-00372078-00372145 think LOpgNf0guUu-01549-00372146-00372497 the Healthcare in general and the LOpgNf0guUu-01550-00372498-00372706 decisions about the health are very LOpgNf0guUu-01551-00372707-00373019 complex they're just looking at you know LOpgNf0guUu-01552-00373020-00373343 certain factual evidences is not enough LOpgNf0guUu-01553-00373344-00373541 uh well of course yeah part of becoming LOpgNf0guUu-01554-00373542-00373751 a doctor actually is training how to LOpgNf0guUu-01555-00373752-00373895 deal with the patient on a one-on-one LOpgNf0guUu-01556-00373896-00374308 yeah uh yeah briefly at I mean LOpgNf0guUu-01557-00374309-00374549 um yes especially when it's about test LOpgNf0guUu-01558-00374550-00374837 results or image analysis Etc then there LOpgNf0guUu-01559-00374838-00375041 are tools right their toolbox that's LOpgNf0guUu-01560-00375042-00375227 something totally different than a LOpgNf0guUu-01561-00375228-00375401 doctor that on the basis of all kinds of LOpgNf0guUu-01562-00375402-00375682 symptoms and test results based maybe on LOpgNf0guUu-01563-00375683-00375941 social understanding of the situation of LOpgNf0guUu-01564-00375942-00376103 a person of a patient you know think LOpgNf0guUu-01565-00376104-00376237 about stress or those kind of things LOpgNf0guUu-01566-00376238-00376451 making a decision that would be a LOpgNf0guUu-01567-00376452-00376649 totally different kind of thing and LOpgNf0guUu-01568-00376650-00376925 secondly there's also the principled LOpgNf0guUu-01569-00376926-00377034 argument LOpgNf0guUu-01570-00377035-00377267 that certain decisions about human LOpgNf0guUu-01571-00377268-00377525 beings should only be made by human LOpgNf0guUu-01572-00377526-00377632 beings LOpgNf0guUu-01573-00377633-00377849 like imprisonment I'm not talking about LOpgNf0guUu-01574-00377850-00378071 traffic speeding tickets and stuff like LOpgNf0guUu-01575-00378072-00378227 that I mean you can automatize that LOpgNf0guUu-01576-00378228-00378580 maybe but but serious sentencing LOpgNf0guUu-01577-00378581-00378773 where where the social circumstances LOpgNf0guUu-01578-00378774-00378971 whether someone has a job or not or you LOpgNf0guUu-01579-00378972-00379217 know those kind of things that should be LOpgNf0guUu-01580-00379218-00379427 done on principle by human beings LOpgNf0guUu-01581-00379428-00379649 because it's about other human beings LOpgNf0guUu-01582-00379650-00379895 You can disagree that with all the but LOpgNf0guUu-01583-00379896-00380045 but but but at least that's an argument LOpgNf0guUu-01584-00380046-00380206 that we need to consider in the debate LOpgNf0guUu-01585-00380207-00380453 would you say even if you can LOpgNf0guUu-01586-00380454-00380578 demonstrate that for example let's say LOpgNf0guUu-01587-00380579-00380782 you have a judge that's an artificial LOpgNf0guUu-01588-00380783-00380975 intelligence even if we can demonstrate LOpgNf0guUu-01589-00380976-00381191 that they make more accurate rulings LOpgNf0guUu-01590-00381192-00381382 than human judges you'd still want a LOpgNf0guUu-01591-00381383-00381569 human to make such calls LOpgNf0guUu-01592-00381570-00381725 part of what's being said is that what LOpgNf0guUu-01593-00381726-00381934 is accuracy in this context LOpgNf0guUu-01594-00381935-00382378 um it's it's a it's it's like a yeah LOpgNf0guUu-01595-00382379-00382577 it's it's why the example of the LOpgNf0guUu-01596-00382578-00382799 evaluation exercise of is there a tumor LOpgNf0guUu-01597-00382800-00383075 here or not is a little bit easier to to LOpgNf0guUu-01598-00383076-00383387 kind of figure out than than most of our LOpgNf0guUu-01599-00383388-00383651 uh most of what we encounter in social LOpgNf0guUu-01600-00383652-00383830 life in our in our society and LOpgNf0guUu-01601-00383831-00384004 imprisonment is one of these things and LOpgNf0guUu-01602-00384005-00384304 then this you know and and social LOpgNf0guUu-01603-00384305-00384593 justice also as it relates to the penal LOpgNf0guUu-01604-00384594-00384778 system so it's not just about sentencing LOpgNf0guUu-01605-00384779-00385091 it's also about understanding the LOpgNf0guUu-01606-00385092-00385306 conditions that lead to certain types of LOpgNf0guUu-01607-00385307-00385745 of crime and and of and of outcomes and LOpgNf0guUu-01608-00385746-00385960 then of course there's the need we have LOpgNf0guUu-01609-00385961-00386237 a need to also want people to improve LOpgNf0guUu-01610-00386238-00386417 their lives so we don't just send them LOpgNf0guUu-01611-00386418-00386603 to prison LOpgNf0guUu-01612-00386604-00386789 um in order for their lives not to be LOpgNf0guUu-01613-00386790-00387154 improved but there's you know in varying LOpgNf0guUu-01614-00387155-00387389 degrees depending where LOpgNf0guUu-01615-00387390-00387658 um I've heard that's made to to help LOpgNf0guUu-01616-00387659-00387791 people actually get their lives back LOpgNf0guUu-01617-00387792-00387982 together because they affect other LOpgNf0guUu-01618-00387983-00388241 people's lives those people who go to LOpgNf0guUu-01619-00388242-00388456 prison have families LOpgNf0guUu-01620-00388457-00388691 and they also affect lots of other LOpgNf0guUu-01621-00388692-00388973 people that are not imprisoned and that LOpgNf0guUu-01622-00388974-00389177 in the end affects us all because we're LOpgNf0guUu-01623-00389178-00389387 all connected LOpgNf0guUu-01624-00389388-00389567 of course uh let's take a couple remarks LOpgNf0guUu-01625-00389568-00389825 from the audience I think uh Mrs up in LOpgNf0guUu-01626-00389826-00390989 the back there yeah LOpgNf0guUu-01627-00390990-00391156 so if an AI would be able to start LOpgNf0guUu-01628-00391157-00391313 diagnosing things that they can't do LOpgNf0guUu-01629-00391314-00391523 today LOpgNf0guUu-01630-00391524-00391913 what kind of things LOpgNf0guUu-01631-00391914-00392951 right now with LOpgNf0guUu-01632-00392952-00393154 nothing so would this be like the LOpgNf0guUu-01633-00393155-00393478 diagnosis that humans can't do today LOpgNf0guUu-01634-00393479-00393713 okay but the principled argument remains LOpgNf0guUu-01635-00393714-00393827 right LOpgNf0guUu-01636-00393828-00394121 I mean it's not just it's not all just LOpgNf0guUu-01637-00394122-00394258 efficiency LOpgNf0guUu-01638-00394259-00394475 they're social factors there's the LOpgNf0guUu-01639-00394476-00394847 psychological factors there's empathy uh LOpgNf0guUu-01640-00394848-00395171 you know those kind of the LOpgNf0guUu-01641-00395172-00395543 the idea that you see everything that is LOpgNf0guUu-01642-00395544-00395765 relevant to a problem by looking at the LOpgNf0guUu-01643-00395766-00395932 efficiency or speaking in the abstract LOpgNf0guUu-01644-00395933-00396328 of Errors is simplifying the the the the LOpgNf0guUu-01645-00396329-00396706 social reality too much I would think LOpgNf0guUu-01646-00396707-00396899 so so even though there will be progress LOpgNf0guUu-01647-00396900-00397049 and again especially in the more LOpgNf0guUu-01648-00397050-00397247 technical applications like detecting LOpgNf0guUu-01649-00397248-00397487 tumors Etc I don't see any problem LOpgNf0guUu-01650-00397488-00397678 but for a lot of the processes there's LOpgNf0guUu-01651-00397679-00398032 an intrinsic social human aspect that LOpgNf0guUu-01652-00398033-00398219 you want to preserve LOpgNf0guUu-01653-00398220-00398441 uh so sorry just let me enter a broker LOpgNf0guUu-01655-00402318-00402575 growth LOpgNf0guUu-01656-00402576-00402827 so it LOpgNf0guUu-01657-00402828-00402971 if I could try and summarize your LOpgNf0guUu-01658-00402972-00403115 question it would be that LOpgNf0guUu-01659-00403116-00403325 we hold AIS to the higher standard than LOpgNf0guUu-01660-00403326-00403541 we do for the human experts but the AIS LOpgNf0guUu-01661-00403542-00403780 learn from the human experts LOpgNf0guUu-01662-00403781-00403984 and they don't make perfect decisions LOpgNf0guUu-01663-00403985-00404177 all of the time LOpgNf0guUu-01664-00404178-00404356 may I take this one because this is LOpgNf0guUu-01665-00404357-00404537 exactly the follow-up that I wanted to LOpgNf0guUu-01666-00404538-00404771 make on both on payment and Josh was I LOpgNf0guUu-01667-00404772-00404993 fully agree with your comment I think LOpgNf0guUu-01668-00404994-00405252 it's a very important point to raise LOpgNf0guUu-01669-00405253-00405730 that a the AI I really don't like to LOpgNf0guUu-01670-00405731-00405913 call it anyway LOpgNf0guUu-01671-00405914-00406247 machine learning based systems are LOpgNf0guUu-01672-00406248-00406439 trained on data that is collected from LOpgNf0guUu-01673-00406440-00406673 experts in the field so they kind of LOpgNf0guUu-01674-00406674-00407063 reflect and in many cases emphasize and LOpgNf0guUu-01675-00407064-00407327 exaggerate and make the mistakes made by LOpgNf0guUu-01676-00407328-00407465 humans LOpgNf0guUu-01677-00407466-00407734 um so in response to what Joshua said LOpgNf0guUu-01678-00407735-00407965 that these systems can actually help LOpgNf0guUu-01679-00407966-00408275 mitigating the bias this is it the LOpgNf0guUu-01680-00408276-00408497 danger that the system itself might LOpgNf0guUu-01681-00408498-00408697 actually contain a lot of bias that was LOpgNf0guUu-01682-00408698-00408977 imported from Human judgment on the LOpgNf0guUu-01683-00408978-00409241 other hand data is eye-opening in a lot LOpgNf0guUu-01684-00409242-00409499 of cases so even though decision making LOpgNf0guUu-01685-00409500-00409780 in life-changing circumstances should be LOpgNf0guUu-01686-00409781-00410032 left to human experts I think it is LOpgNf0guUu-01687-00410033-00410297 important to always have an eye on LOpgNf0guUu-01688-00410297-00410560 large-scale data as an example this LOpgNf0guUu-01689-00410562-00410872 recent meta study came out which made a LOpgNf0guUu-01690-00410873-00411232 lot of noise that there is this very LOpgNf0guUu-01691-00411233-00411514 clear systematic pattern that if male LOpgNf0guUu-01692-00411516-00411934 cardiologists treat female patients for LOpgNf0guUu-01693-00411935-00412255 heart problems they under diagnose and LOpgNf0guUu-01694-00412256-00412603 female patients die LOpgNf0guUu-01695-00412604-00412991 with a very noticeable margin of error LOpgNf0guUu-01696-00412992-00413195 but this doesn't happen if the if the LOpgNf0guUu-01697-00413196-00413459 patient if the doctor is female so this LOpgNf0guUu-01698-00413460-00413801 is a very clear example of a data based LOpgNf0guUu-01699-00413802-00414239 observation which then it doesn't help LOpgNf0guUu-01700-00414239-00414474 if you have an expert which is a human LOpgNf0guUu-01701-00414475-00414701 bringing them in the loop and leaving LOpgNf0guUu-01702-00414702-00414937 all the decision-making power to them LOpgNf0guUu-01703-00414938-00415247 having a system that is forced to become LOpgNf0guUu-01704-00415247-00415493 less and less biased as a tool might LOpgNf0guUu-01705-00415493-00415745 help in these cases so it's also about LOpgNf0guUu-01706-00415746-00416016 complementaries LOpgNf0guUu-01707-00416017-00416314 thank you it's it's about complementary LOpgNf0guUu-01708-00416316-00416584 it was very often we think about Ai and LOpgNf0guUu-01709-00416585-00416824 humans in terms of replacement LOpgNf0guUu-01710-00416825-00417070 which I think in many cases is not the LOpgNf0guUu-01711-00417071-00417334 ideal at all and should also not be the LOpgNf0guUu-01712-00417335-00417701 aim of AI it's to complement human LOpgNf0guUu-01713-00417702-00417910 expertise with a different kind of LOpgNf0guUu-01714-00417912-00418174 expertise like with the big data and and LOpgNf0guUu-01715-00418175-00418372 get the best of both worlds LOpgNf0guUu-01716-00418373-00418660 and what we still have to do is is find LOpgNf0guUu-01717-00418662-00418822 the proper balance between those two LOpgNf0guUu-01718-00418823-00419045 systems and to check how that then LOpgNf0guUu-01719-00419046-00419260 results in human accountability for LOpgNf0guUu-01720-00419262-00419464 instance we we don't know exactly how to LOpgNf0guUu-01721-00419466-00419729 use the tools that we make appropriately LOpgNf0guUu-01722-00419730-00419957 and that's I think another very big LOpgNf0guUu-01723-00419958-00420155 societal challenge LOpgNf0guUu-01724-00420156-00420370 uh I'd like to take the question far LOpgNf0guUu-01725-00420371-00420485 left over there you've been holding your LOpgNf0guUu-01726-00420485-00420635 hand for a while LOpgNf0guUu-01727-00420635-00420851 uh no over here first sorry LOpgNf0guUu-01728-00420852-00421205 audio at the edge yeah LOpgNf0guUu-01729-00421206-00421614 um LOpgNf0guUu-01730-00421616-00421931 all for it but there's a lot of LOpgNf0guUu-01731-00421932-00422243 situations where AI is the only option LOpgNf0guUu-01732-00422243-00422363 there's a LOpgNf0guUu-01733-00422364-00422537 both places in the world that just isn't LOpgNf0guUu-01734-00422538-00422801 a radiologist and the Dutch Healthcare LOpgNf0guUu-01735-00422802-00423083 System is also heading that way LOpgNf0guUu-01736-00423084-00423395 situations LOpgNf0guUu-01737-00423396-00423568 because you can say I only want to be LOpgNf0guUu-01738-00423569-00423797 judged by a human and nobody else but LOpgNf0guUu-01739-00423797-00423964 what if there's only an AI to judge you LOpgNf0guUu-01740-00423965-00424187 yeah so let me repeat that action Dennis LOpgNf0guUu-01741-00424188-00424355 oh yeah so thank you for bringing down LOpgNf0guUu-01742-00424356-00424607 the light so the statement is that there LOpgNf0guUu-01743-00424608-00424763 are places that don't have the same LOpgNf0guUu-01744-00424764-00424913 resources that maybe some of the Western LOpgNf0guUu-01745-00424914-00425135 countries do and that AI is the only LOpgNf0guUu-01746-00425135-00425255 solution for them to even have a LOpgNf0guUu-01747-00425256-00425393 radiologist LOpgNf0guUu-01748-00425393-00425620 essentially AI could fill in the shoes LOpgNf0guUu-01749-00425621-00425920 where humans are missing uh in that LOpgNf0guUu-01750-00425921-00426101 situation would it be more okay for LOpgNf0guUu-01751-00426102-00426305 example to have decisions made by AI LOpgNf0guUu-01752-00426306-00426431 assistants LOpgNf0guUu-01753-00426432-00426599 so maybe just from an economic LOpgNf0guUu-01754-00426600-00426905 perspective if we think about LOpgNf0guUu-01755-00426906-00427133 how this comes into the world at the end LOpgNf0guUu-01756-00427134-00427301 of the day these Solutions will come LOpgNf0guUu-01757-00427302-00427714 through startup Ventures through large LOpgNf0guUu-01758-00427715-00427943 tech companies who are creating these LOpgNf0guUu-01759-00427943-00428099 services LOpgNf0guUu-01760-00428100-00428291 and the way they go about creating these LOpgNf0guUu-01761-00428292-00428501 Services could LOpgNf0guUu-01762-00428502-00428716 it could reflect the things that are LOpgNf0guUu-01763-00428717-00428957 being said here that could be the type LOpgNf0guUu-01764-00428958-00429203 of the way it's being done with with LOpgNf0guUu-01765-00429204-00429505 humans involved LOpgNf0guUu-01766-00429506-00429814 you can have that ethos built into the LOpgNf0guUu-01767-00429815-00429983 algorithm at some point LOpgNf0guUu-01768-00429984-00430253 I agree with you at some point there's a LOpgNf0guUu-01769-00430254-00430505 good chance that those will be applied LOpgNf0guUu-01770-00430506-00430855 to other parts of the world or to even LOpgNf0guUu-01771-00430856-00431099 any part of the world at specific LOpgNf0guUu-01772-00431100-00431255 moments in time when it becomes LOpgNf0guUu-01773-00431256-00431357 necessary LOpgNf0guUu-01774-00431358-00431627 and that will be more algorithmic than LOpgNf0guUu-01775-00431628-00431849 it is LOpgNf0guUu-01776-00431850-00432016 than it is human LOpgNf0guUu-01777-00432017-00432383 but if we can also work on other things LOpgNf0guUu-01778-00432384-00432622 like human capital development and LOpgNf0guUu-01779-00432623-00432868 economic development also around the LOpgNf0guUu-01780-00432869-00433085 world then we would also hope that there LOpgNf0guUu-01781-00433085-00433222 would be LOpgNf0guUu-01782-00433223-00433510 a more even distribution also of those LOpgNf0guUu-01783-00433512-00433751 capabilities across the world LOpgNf0guUu-01784-00433752-00434159 yes I kind of see it as a whole mix of LOpgNf0guUu-01785-00434160-00434351 things working together and it's LOpgNf0guUu-01786-00434352-00434627 absolutely uh essential we there's LOpgNf0guUu-01787-00434628-00434783 there's joint action here between LOpgNf0guUu-01788-00434784-00434975 machines and humans LOpgNf0guUu-01789-00434976-00435166 all right any further remarks from the LOpgNf0guUu-01790-00435167-00436001 audience let's go with you LOpgNf0guUu-01791-00436002-00436120 um LOpgNf0guUu-01792-00436121-00436579 accountability LOpgNf0guUu-01793-00436580-00436907 so we are a rational creatures humans LOpgNf0guUu-01794-00436908-00437303 and when damage is done LOpgNf0guUu-01795-00437304-00437609 just as we want retribution and you LOpgNf0guUu-01796-00437610-00437813 can't damage you can't punish a machine LOpgNf0guUu-01797-00437814-00437933 so LOpgNf0guUu-01798-00437934-00438257 so somebody needs LOpgNf0guUu-01799-00438258-00438466 so the statement is that we need to keep LOpgNf0guUu-01800-00438467-00438616 the humans in the loop so we have LOpgNf0guUu-01801-00438617-00438814 somewhere to kind of place the LOpgNf0guUu-01802-00438815-00439097 accountability when things go wrong LOpgNf0guUu-01803-00439097-00439409 a sense of justice yeah LOpgNf0guUu-01804-00439410-00439872 any remarks LOpgNf0guUu-01805-00439873-00440957 green card uh yes LOpgNf0guUu-01806-00440958-00441377 but still I mean so translating to the LOpgNf0guUu-01807-00441378-00441647 human source of accountability is not LOpgNf0guUu-01808-00441647-00441779 going to be easy LOpgNf0guUu-01809-00441780-00441995 uh you know like the thousands of LOpgNf0guUu-01810-00441996-00442277 objects that consists of thousands of LOpgNf0guUu-01811-00442278-00442493 parts that were created although that's LOpgNf0guUu-01812-00442493-00442666 going to be really messy but of course LOpgNf0guUu-01813-00442667-00442889 one of the nice things about AI is that LOpgNf0guUu-01814-00442889-00443033 it's actually quite good in tracking LOpgNf0guUu-01815-00443034-00443122 that LOpgNf0guUu-01816-00443123-00443339 so so what are the applications that we LOpgNf0guUu-01817-00443339-00443560 can build for AI to solve this problem LOpgNf0guUu-01818-00443562-00443770 that in part arises because of AI That's LOpgNf0guUu-01819-00443771-00443975 the nice we keep ourselves busy here you LOpgNf0guUu-01820-00443976-00444149 don't have to worry about but that I LOpgNf0guUu-01821-00444150-00444335 think would be really something to think LOpgNf0guUu-01822-00444335-00444539 about constructively especially in LOpgNf0guUu-01823-00444539-00444820 combination with with legal experts LOpgNf0guUu-01824-00444821-00445007 uh I think we'll take a question from LOpgNf0guUu-01825-00445008-00446303 the far back LOpgNf0guUu-01826-00446304-00446495 do you think there's a problem with LOpgNf0guUu-01827-00446496-00446572 maybe LOpgNf0guUu-01828-00446573-00446813 degrading the responsibility of checking LOpgNf0guUu-01829-00446814-00447166 if it's right of the of the professional LOpgNf0guUu-01830-00447167-00447335 and then you're again in a room for LOpgNf0guUu-01831-00447335-00447520 somebody just trusting AI even though LOpgNf0guUu-01832-00447521-00447785 they are responsible for it yeah so so LOpgNf0guUu-01833-00447785-00447929 if I understood this correctly the LOpgNf0guUu-01834-00447930-00448114 question is that LOpgNf0guUu-01835-00448115-00448331 this co-responsibility between the AI LOpgNf0guUu-01836-00448332-00448529 and the human that the responsibility LOpgNf0guUu-01837-00448530-00449560 will be lost somewhere LOpgNf0guUu-01838-00449562-00449747 and you're just trying to make sure LOpgNf0guUu-01839-00449747-00450077 you're right so maybe bringing the LOpgNf0guUu-01840-00450078-00450203 humanization of LOpgNf0guUu-01841-00450204-00450479 the process LOpgNf0guUu-01842-00450480-00450779 so so there's this idea of humans on the LOpgNf0guUu-01843-00450780-00450983 loop right so so there's a machine LOpgNf0guUu-01844-00450984-00451229 that's making the recommendations and LOpgNf0guUu-01845-00451230-00451427 the human is on the loop supervising and LOpgNf0guUu-01846-00451428-00451625 intervening when things go wrong now if LOpgNf0guUu-01847-00451626-00451822 you do that after a while people start LOpgNf0guUu-01848-00451823-00451979 doing other things LOpgNf0guUu-01849-00451980-00452177 uh it's very funny it's like with a LOpgNf0guUu-01850-00452178-00452309 self-driving car where you're supposed LOpgNf0guUu-01851-00452310-00452453 to have your hands on the wheel and look LOpgNf0guUu-01852-00452454-00452614 at the road yeah right LOpgNf0guUu-01853-00452615-00452807 I mean and that's not because it's a bad LOpgNf0guUu-01854-00452808-00452987 person it's because we're persons and we LOpgNf0guUu-01855-00452988-00453179 start doing other things the more LOpgNf0guUu-01856-00453180-00453359 reliable the technology becomes the more LOpgNf0guUu-01857-00453360-00453539 we start doing other things so they call LOpgNf0guUu-01858-00453539-00453731 that phenomenon being under the loop LOpgNf0guUu-01859-00453732-00453905 you're supposed to be on the loop but LOpgNf0guUu-01860-00453906-00454091 you're actually under it and that's LOpgNf0guUu-01861-00454092-00454313 dangerous because that means that that LOpgNf0guUu-01862-00454314-00454577 experts like in the medical field will LOpgNf0guUu-01863-00454578-00454775 become what they call moral crumple LOpgNf0guUu-01864-00454776-00454943 zones like with cars you know they take LOpgNf0guUu-01865-00454943-00455213 the hit they carry the responsibility LOpgNf0guUu-01866-00455214-00455464 but in a way the system is set up such LOpgNf0guUu-01867-00455465-00455705 that they cannot meaningfully be inhuman LOpgNf0guUu-01868-00455706-00455891 take that responsibility LOpgNf0guUu-01869-00455892-00456077 and that's another issue that I see LOpgNf0guUu-01870-00456078-00456251 coming with decision support systems LOpgNf0guUu-01871-00456252-00456563 that we will you know trial uh human LOpgNf0guUu-01872-00456564-00456857 beings for not being on the loop but the LOpgNf0guUu-01873-00456858-00457007 whole situation that we created is LOpgNf0guUu-01874-00457008-00457181 psychologically unmanageable for them so LOpgNf0guUu-01875-00457182-00457331 I see a big risk here for many LOpgNf0guUu-01876-00457332-00457691 professionals also in law for example LOpgNf0guUu-01877-00457692-00457877 all right I think we're going to take LOpgNf0guUu-01878-00457878-00458081 one maybe two more uh before we move on LOpgNf0guUu-01879-00458082-00458285 to the rapid fire round so you've been LOpgNf0guUu-01880-00458285-00458975 holding ahead for a while LOpgNf0guUu-01881-00458976-00459203 we talked before about the expert LOpgNf0guUu-01882-00459204-00459431 problems so that actually we introduced LOpgNf0guUu-01883-00459432-00459683 a human error into the system that then LOpgNf0guUu-01884-00459684-00459935 led to this decision but I'm also LOpgNf0guUu-01885-00459935-00460277 thinking about terms where the AI by LOpgNf0guUu-01886-00460278-00460505 pure computational power can be go LOpgNf0guUu-01887-00460506-00460768 beyond human ability so there are just LOpgNf0guUu-01888-00460769-00460985 certain things that that we can't do LOpgNf0guUu-01889-00460985-00461279 that AI can do very pure computational LOpgNf0guUu-01890-00461280-00461585 power then we ask again okay so if by LOpgNf0guUu-01891-00461585-00461855 pure computational power the AI makes a LOpgNf0guUu-01892-00461856-00462070 decision and no human could have ever LOpgNf0guUu-01893-00462071-00462214 made that decision LOpgNf0guUu-01894-00462215-00462509 we lack the ability to do so then we LOpgNf0guUu-01895-00462510-00462743 also have to think about okay where is LOpgNf0guUu-01896-00462743-00463014 the accountability now because it's LOpgNf0guUu-01897-00463015-00463270 technically something that we as humans LOpgNf0guUu-01898-00463271-00463481 don't even understand anymore so I don't LOpgNf0guUu-01899-00463482-00463685 know take chess spots for example they LOpgNf0guUu-01900-00463685-00463943 work in ways that humans cannot help you LOpgNf0guUu-01901-00463943-00464099 compute anymore that's why we lose LOpgNf0guUu-01902-00464100-00464260 against them yeah and then it's the LOpgNf0guUu-01903-00464262-00464513 question okay who's accountable if LOpgNf0guUu-01904-00464514-00464807 an AI that goes beyond human ability LOpgNf0guUu-01905-00464808-00465029 makes it a mistake because I don't know LOpgNf0guUu-01906-00465030-00465251 I think in that moment you have to hold LOpgNf0guUu-01907-00465252-00465425 the Creator accountable but it's also LOpgNf0guUu-01908-00465426-00465616 like a really can I can I do my best to LOpgNf0guUu-01909-00465617-00465737 try and summarize this good like LOpgNf0guUu-01910-00465738-00465983 summarizing that so so the statement or LOpgNf0guUu-01911-00465984-00466139 the question to be made is that when you LOpgNf0guUu-01912-00466139-00466385 have an AI of a computational power that LOpgNf0guUu-01913-00466385-00466607 makes it uncomprehensible for a human LOpgNf0guUu-01914-00466608-00466768 being to make any decisions about it LOpgNf0guUu-01915-00466769-00467153 would you put that accountability LOpgNf0guUu-01916-00467154-00467309 I don't I don't think it's LOpgNf0guUu-01917-00467310-00467447 incomprehensible LOpgNf0guUu-01918-00467447-00467507 yeah LOpgNf0guUu-01919-00467508-00467777 um it's beyond our computational power LOpgNf0guUu-01920-00467778-00468209 but chess is very simple it's a very LOpgNf0guUu-01921-00468210-00468509 it's rule-based it's a very simple set LOpgNf0guUu-01922-00468510-00468827 of rules very simple set of moves it's LOpgNf0guUu-01923-00468828-00469114 just that when you start looking at LOpgNf0guUu-01924-00469115-00469343 um it planned over time it's LOpgNf0guUu-01925-00469343-00469691 sufficiently still computationally LOpgNf0guUu-01926-00469692-00470014 um You Know Rich for for most for most LOpgNf0guUu-01927-00470015-00470141 of us LOpgNf0guUu-01928-00470142-00470225 um LOpgNf0guUu-01929-00470226-00470416 but we understand the moves that are LOpgNf0guUu-01930-00470417-00470737 being done we created the rules LOpgNf0guUu-01931-00470738-00471010 and even though we may not have made LOpgNf0guUu-01932-00471012-00471239 that same move because we hadn't been LOpgNf0guUu-01933-00471239-00471545 able to see that many more moves ahead LOpgNf0guUu-01934-00471546-00471779 uh I I think we're not completely lost LOpgNf0guUu-01935-00471780-00472139 in that just to finish the the point LOpgNf0guUu-01936-00472139-00472522 um LOpgNf0guUu-01937-00472523-00472810 so even if we don't quite understand how LOpgNf0guUu-01938-00472812-00473225 what it's seeing that many steps ahead LOpgNf0guUu-01939-00473226-00473560 um we can allow it to do that because it LOpgNf0guUu-01940-00473562-00473849 really has very little significance LOpgNf0guUu-01941-00473850-00474070 in other contexts where it really LOpgNf0guUu-01942-00474071-00474305 matters what the outcomes are LOpgNf0guUu-01943-00474306-00474497 we need to be involved in that process LOpgNf0guUu-01944-00474497-00474718 and that's just my my opinion about it LOpgNf0guUu-01945-00474719-00474989 but I I don't see why we would want to LOpgNf0guUu-01946-00474989-00475157 relinquish that LOpgNf0guUu-01947-00475158-00475366 I think we should be involved in that LOpgNf0guUu-01948-00475367-00475691 process and understanding that using the LOpgNf0guUu-01949-00475692-00475889 computational power to help us see LOpgNf0guUu-01950-00475889-00476116 things we could not ordinarily see but LOpgNf0guUu-01951-00476117-00476309 then making decisions what we do with LOpgNf0guUu-01952-00476310-00476513 what we see okay I'd love to keep the LOpgNf0guUu-01953-00476514-00476645 discussion going but we do have to wrap LOpgNf0guUu-01954-00476646-00476855 up uh you can always find them after so LOpgNf0guUu-01955-00476856-00477022 we're going to be moving forward to the LOpgNf0guUu-01956-00477023-00477268 rapid fire round uh essentially I'll be LOpgNf0guUu-01957-00477269-00477491 saying a statement and prepare your LOpgNf0guUu-01958-00477492-00477659 green and red cards because we're going LOpgNf0guUu-01959-00477660-00477881 to see how many people agree or disagree LOpgNf0guUu-01960-00477882-00478109 with the statements LOpgNf0guUu-01961-00478110-00478385 uh all right so let's just immediately LOpgNf0guUu-01962-00478385-00478505 Kick It Off LOpgNf0guUu-01963-00478506-00478841 uh with the statement ethics is LOpgNf0guUu-01964-00478842-00479110 programmable LOpgNf0guUu-01965-00479112-00479249 programmable LOpgNf0guUu-01966-00479250-00479747 you can program ethics into an AI LOpgNf0guUu-01967-00479747-00479957 all right LOpgNf0guUu-01968-00479958-00480353 um followed AI can't be stupid it only LOpgNf0guUu-01969-00480354-00480599 does what it's programmed to humans are LOpgNf0guUu-01970-00480600-00481505 stupid LOpgNf0guUu-01971-00481506-00481775 if you can summarize your disagreement LOpgNf0guUu-01972-00481776-00482068 I think you can you know you can oh LOpgNf0guUu-01973-00482069-00482303 sorry you can't take a problem that's LOpgNf0guUu-01974-00482304-00482495 very well understood LOpgNf0guUu-01975-00482496-00482759 like chess and you can build two LOpgNf0guUu-01976-00482760-00483107 automatic chess players one of them is LOpgNf0guUu-01977-00483108-00483389 much more stupid than the other LOpgNf0guUu-01978-00483389-00483772 right I mean one of these uh Gamers LOpgNf0guUu-01979-00483773-00483983 plays worse than the other even though LOpgNf0guUu-01980-00483984-00484139 both of them were based on the LOpgNf0guUu-01981-00484139-00484343 interviews with the same set of Chess LOpgNf0guUu-01982-00484343-00485518 experts so relative to each other LOpgNf0guUu-01983-00485519-00485789 and they could build they could be built LOpgNf0guUu-01984-00485789-00486041 better or worse so LOpgNf0guUu-01985-00486042-00486359 you can translate it to stupidity all LOpgNf0guUu-01986-00486360-00486616 right next statement we are glorifying LOpgNf0guUu-01987-00486617-00487360 AI today LOpgNf0guUu-01988-00487362-00487487 okay LOpgNf0guUu-01989-00487488-00487889 uh AI has a place in the military LOpgNf0guUu-01990-00487889-00488549 AI has a place in the military LOpgNf0guUu-01991-00488550-00488683 Fair LOpgNf0guUu-01992-00488684-00489091 [Applause] LOpgNf0guUu-01993-00489092-00489449 uh AI research should be supervised by LOpgNf0guUu-01994-00489450-00489839 an Ethics board LOpgNf0guUu-01995-00489839-00490420 that is a lot of green is there any red LOpgNf0guUu-01996-00490421-00490666 interesting LOpgNf0guUu-01997-00490667-00490793 uh LOpgNf0guUu-01998-00490793-00491033 AI we will eventually control large LOpgNf0guUu-01999-00491034-00491213 portions of society LOpgNf0guUu-02000-00491214-00491597 so make political decisions for example LOpgNf0guUu-02001-00491597-00491741 in a way it already does yeah with the LOpgNf0guUu-02002-00491742-00492299 media for example LOpgNf0guUu-02003-00492300-00492551 uh we have a question LOpgNf0guUu-02004-00492552-00492979 do we have a question LOpgNf0guUu-02005-00492980-00493331 uh AIS will never be capable of true LOpgNf0guUu-02006-00493332-00493681 creativity LOpgNf0guUu-02007-00493682-00493966 rapid fire it's a rapid fire Frank we LOpgNf0guUu-02008-00493967-00494309 just have to kick on LOpgNf0guUu-02009-00494310-00494639 raise the headache card LOpgNf0guUu-02010-00494639-00494795 um LOpgNf0guUu-02011-00494796-00494981 upscaling neural network and deep LOpgNf0guUu-02012-00494982-00495203 learning architectures is a solution to LOpgNf0guUu-02013-00495204-00495401 stupid AI so instead of trying to LOpgNf0guUu-02014-00495402-00495641 approach it in different ways just try LOpgNf0guUu-02015-00495642-00495916 what we're trying harder LOpgNf0guUu-02016-00495917-00496547 right LOpgNf0guUu-02017-00496547-00496966 now LOpgNf0guUu-02018-00496967-00497429 all right uh just like a car needs needs LOpgNf0guUu-02019-00497430-00497645 to have insurance AI should also be LOpgNf0guUu-02020-00497646-00497789 insured to account for its potential LOpgNf0guUu-02021-00497789-00498077 mistakes LOpgNf0guUu-02022-00498078-00498227 right maybe in the future we'll have LOpgNf0guUu-02023-00498228-00498616 insurance brokers for AI agents LOpgNf0guUu-02024-00498617-00499018 yeah entirely possible all right well uh LOpgNf0guUu-02025-00499019-00499259 that wraps up the rapid fire round I'd LOpgNf0guUu-02026-00499260-00499414 like to have a brief afterward before we LOpgNf0guUu-02027-00499415-00499691 depart uh we're running out of time so LOpgNf0guUu-02028-00499692-00499889 I'd like to thank all of you for the LOpgNf0guUu-02029-00499889-00500087 amazing discussion uh please everyone uh LOpgNf0guUu-02030-00500088-00500255 round up for pause for speakers for a LOpgNf0guUu-02031-00500256-00500843 company out there today LOpgNf0guUu-02032-00500843-00501089 also I would like to ask for a round of LOpgNf0guUu-02033-00501089-00501449 applause for or uh Enigma and student to LOpgNf0guUu-02034-00501450-00501610 help him make this event and our amazing LOpgNf0guUu-02035-00501612-00502097 host of course the unsung heroes LOpgNf0guUu-02036-00502097-00502391 so I hope you had a good time listening LOpgNf0guUu-02037-00502392-00502577 to and considering critical implications LOpgNf0guUu-02038-00502578-00502822 of employing AI and that you'll continue LOpgNf0guUu-02039-00502823-00502949 to do so in the future especially LOpgNf0guUu-02040-00502950-00503177 throughout your studies thank you very LOpgNf0guUu-02041-00503178-00503363 much for attending before you leave we LOpgNf0guUu-02042-00503364-00503675 have a link I know you all love scanning LOpgNf0guUu-02043-00503676-00503975 QR code so uh we very much appreciate it LOpgNf0guUu-02044-00503976-00504107 if you could scan this it's an LOpgNf0guUu-02045-00504108-00504281 evaluation how much you've enjoy the LOpgNf0guUu-02046-00504282-00504418 event or what we can improve in the LOpgNf0guUu-02047-00504419-00504731 future uh and feel free we hope to see LOpgNf0guUu-02048-00504732-00504899 you for drinks LOpgNf0guUu-02049-00504900-00505259 um my colleague Hannah has tickets for LOpgNf0guUu-02050-00505260-00505468 one free drink so if you're joining us LOpgNf0guUu-02051-00505469-00505660 for drinks at the Esplanade please come LOpgNf0guUu-02052-00505662-00505937 to her for your free drink ticket LOpgNf0guUu-02053-00505938-00506116 you were an amazing audience thank you LOpgNf0guUu-02054-00506117-00506285 for coming LOpgNf0guUu-02055-00506285-00506376 thank you for coming LOpgNf0guUu-02056-00506377-00506932 [Applause]