UV8xxw8zDzo-00001-00004952-00005160 you UWpLtOjGdko-00000-00000003-00000152 they started dragging him across the UWpLtOjGdko-00001-00000153-00000383 supermarket floor and that's when my UWpLtOjGdko-00002-00000384-00000578 heart really started racing I got very UWpLtOjGdko-00003-00000579-00000751 nervous because it was the first time UWpLtOjGdko-00004-00000752-00001700 that it had escalated to this point all UWpLtOjGdko-00005-00001701-00001882 right so here we are we got interviewed UWpLtOjGdko-00006-00001884-00002225 three of the 2019 beacon camper some old UWpLtOjGdko-00007-00002226-00002401 friends of mine that leaking couple how UWpLtOjGdko-00008-00002402-00002633 you going thanks for having us UWpLtOjGdko-00009-00002634-00002849 I can't believe how fresh you look after UWpLtOjGdko-00010-00002850-00003025 being putting yourself for a pretty UWpLtOjGdko-00011-00003026-00003788 crazy schedule compliments we don't feel UWpLtOjGdko-00012-00003789-00004085 very fresh really how do you feel look UWpLtOjGdko-00013-00004086-00004261 what today we feel quite uplifted UWpLtOjGdko-00014-00004262-00004438 actually because a lot of people have UWpLtOjGdko-00015-00004439-00004658 provided such beautiful feedback about UWpLtOjGdko-00016-00004659-00004874 the talk that we gave about the UWpLtOjGdko-00017-00004875-00005047 disruptions that we've been involved in UWpLtOjGdko-00018-00005048-00005231 lately and so we're feeling quite UWpLtOjGdko-00019-00005232-00005408 uplifted and thanking us for our work UWpLtOjGdko-00020-00005409-00005642 yeah the spirits are uplifted the UWpLtOjGdko-00021-00005643-00005876 physical mental and emotional bodies are UWpLtOjGdko-00022-00005877-00006299 absolutely shot to pieces if I can be UWpLtOjGdko-00023-00006300-00006598 honest yeah yeah be completely honest UWpLtOjGdko-00024-00006600-00006781 with me because it seems like you guys UWpLtOjGdko-00025-00006783-00006983 have made a transition from you know UWpLtOjGdko-00026-00006984-00007253 being purely youtubers but now getting UWpLtOjGdko-00027-00007254-00007520 involved you know quite prominently and UWpLtOjGdko-00028-00007520-00007712 grassroots at all rights activism how UWpLtOjGdko-00029-00007713-00007919 did that happen yeah look you know we UWpLtOjGdko-00030-00007920-00008153 went we were going really strong with UWpLtOjGdko-00031-00008154-00008327 the response videos and the mug bongs UWpLtOjGdko-00032-00008328-00008552 for many many years and as you know we UWpLtOjGdko-00033-00008553-00008689 were living in Thailand for a lot of UWpLtOjGdko-00034-00008690-00008912 that time and we didn't have the chance UWpLtOjGdko-00035-00008913-00009137 to get involved in street activism so we UWpLtOjGdko-00036-00009138-00009292 would see a lot of people like yourself UWpLtOjGdko-00037-00009293-00009530 and others doing it on YouTube and it UWpLtOjGdko-00038-00009531-00009677 was fantastic to see but we didn't have UWpLtOjGdko-00039-00009678-00009923 the opportunity to get involved and just UWpLtOjGdko-00040-00009924-00010121 as we decided to leave Thailand to go UWpLtOjGdko-00041-00010122-00010349 back to Australia a cube started up in UWpLtOjGdko-00042-00010350-00010517 Chiang Mai and now they actually have UWpLtOjGdko-00043-00010518-00010805 vigils as well Bangkok in Bangkok yeah UWpLtOjGdko-00044-00010806-00011024 and but when we were there that wasn't UWpLtOjGdko-00045-00011025-00011237 kind of happening and so when we moved UWpLtOjGdko-00046-00011238-00011420 back to Australia we finally got the UWpLtOjGdko-00047-00011421-00011594 chance to get involved ourselves and so UWpLtOjGdko-00048-00011595-00011756 it was something we always wanted to do UWpLtOjGdko-00049-00011757-00011931 but just never had the opportunity UWpLtOjGdko-00050-00011932-00012203 because we were living in Thailand at UWpLtOjGdko-00051-00012204-00012445 the time so Wow yeah now it's been great UWpLtOjGdko-00052-00012446-00012670 to just merge the street activism with UWpLtOjGdko-00053-00012671-00012847 the social media and obviously the UWpLtOjGdko-00054-00012848-00012992 YouTube and everything and that's UWpLtOjGdko-00055-00012993-00013319 that's been amazing and you find it's a UWpLtOjGdko-00056-00013319-00013616 quite a different in terms of character UWpLtOjGdko-00057-00013618-00013761 building to be right there out there in UWpLtOjGdko-00058-00013762-00014010 the thick of things yeah it's different UWpLtOjGdko-00059-00014011-00014219 you know I guess online you're dealing UWpLtOjGdko-00060-00014220-00014483 with it all online so it's all virtual UWpLtOjGdko-00061-00014484-00014786 and in the real world on the street you UWpLtOjGdko-00062-00014787-00014963 know the face-to-face interactions it is UWpLtOjGdko-00063-00014965-00015102 definitely a different experience the UWpLtOjGdko-00064-00015103-00015603 trolls are real oh my god now I want to UWpLtOjGdko-00065-00015604-00015830 talk to you guys about the direct action UWpLtOjGdko-00066-00015831-00016071 you've been involved in because this is UWpLtOjGdko-00067-00016072-00016283 quite a I don't know it's quite an UWpLtOjGdko-00068-00016284-00016533 intense form of activism and it can be UWpLtOjGdko-00069-00016534-00016722 confrontational and you guys are that UWpLtOjGdko-00070-00016723-00016862 beacon couple you're such a peaceful UWpLtOjGdko-00071-00016863-00017153 body you know when I'm winning me if you UWpLtOjGdko-00072-00017154-00017309 if anyone's ever met that beacon couple UWpLtOjGdko-00073-00017310-00017430 they've got this an energy that just UWpLtOjGdko-00074-00017431-00017817 cuddles you with articulately spoken UWpLtOjGdko-00075-00017818-00017969 voices and that you know but you're out UWpLtOjGdko-00076-00017970-00018153 there doing this direct action and a lot UWpLtOjGdko-00077-00018154-00018347 of vegan activists shy away from and UWpLtOjGdko-00078-00018348-00018533 yeah how did this happen why did why did UWpLtOjGdko-00079-00018534-00018809 you choose this form of activism sure UWpLtOjGdko-00080-00018810-00018993 it's I just want to just something UWpLtOjGdko-00081-00018994-00019094 actually it's funny that you say that UWpLtOjGdko-00082-00019095-00019325 because a lot of our audience refer to UWpLtOjGdko-00083-00019326-00019458 us as their mum and dad they're online UWpLtOjGdko-00084-00019459-00019677 vegan mum and dad even if they're our UWpLtOjGdko-00085-00019678-00019931 age or older so yeah you're right we had UWpLtOjGdko-00086-00019932-00020147 this off but the kind of reputation as UWpLtOjGdko-00087-00020148-00020352 being the mum and dad yeah and then when UWpLtOjGdko-00088-00020353-00020525 they see us doing this direct action and UWpLtOjGdko-00089-00020526-00020678 one of the most recent actions we did UWpLtOjGdko-00090-00020679-00020894 was in Germany and it got very intense UWpLtOjGdko-00091-00020895-00021033 just to the point where Luca was on the UWpLtOjGdko-00092-00021034-00021302 ground being led outside by the neck and UWpLtOjGdko-00093-00021303-00021575 everyone was kind of shocked like Oh mom UWpLtOjGdko-00094-00021576-00021840 and dad what are you doing and what's UWpLtOjGdko-00095-00021841-00022034 happened but I think that's a great UWpLtOjGdko-00096-00022035-00022262 opportunity to show that this is for UWpLtOjGdko-00097-00022263-00022467 everybody and it doesn't matter how we UWpLtOjGdko-00098-00022468-00022728 start and what kind of online persona we UWpLtOjGdko-00099-00022729-00023018 have or whatever direct action is needed UWpLtOjGdko-00100-00023019-00023219 it's absolutely essential for this UWpLtOjGdko-00101-00023220-00023468 movement so even you know vegan online UWpLtOjGdko-00102-00023469-00023703 mum and dad can do it yeah well can you UWpLtOjGdko-00103-00023704-00024089 explain why it's needed yeah right so UWpLtOjGdko-00104-00024090-00024342 disruption and direct action has been UWpLtOjGdko-00105-00024343-00024533 used by social justice movements UWpLtOjGdko-00106-00024534-00024680 throughout history okay so we're talking UWpLtOjGdko-00107-00024681-00024924 about women's suffrage civil rights gay UWpLtOjGdko-00108-00024925-00025221 rights and basically these rights were UWpLtOjGdko-00109-00025222-00025487 not enacted into legislation simply by UWpLtOjGdko-00110-00025488-00025755 people not participating in a form of UWpLtOjGdko-00111-00025756-00025987 discrimination okay it actually took UWpLtOjGdko-00112-00025988-00026193 disruptive action UWpLtOjGdko-00113-00026194-00026545 to ultimately get rights enacted into UWpLtOjGdko-00114-00026545-00026770 legislation for the various groups that UWpLtOjGdko-00115-00026770-00027070 I mentioned so you know we watched a UWpLtOjGdko-00116-00027070-00027258 video called the science of social UWpLtOjGdko-00117-00027259-00027448 change that there is an actual science UWpLtOjGdko-00118-00027449-00027604 to it you know when we're trying to UWpLtOjGdko-00119-00027605-00027817 create one on one we're trying to create UWpLtOjGdko-00120-00027818-00028008 individual change obviously we're having UWpLtOjGdko-00121-00028009-00028167 that one-on-one conversation trying to UWpLtOjGdko-00122-00028168-00028377 plant seeds to influence the person to UWpLtOjGdko-00123-00028378-00028573 lead them to the vegan conclusion but UWpLtOjGdko-00124-00028574-00028695 when we're trying to create social UWpLtOjGdko-00125-00028696-00028960 change we have to force gets as we have UWpLtOjGdko-00126-00028961-00029149 to first get society to acknowledge that UWpLtOjGdko-00127-00029150-00029361 the form of discrimination is an issue UWpLtOjGdko-00128-00029362-00029530 and for example for a with animal rights UWpLtOjGdko-00129-00029531-00029739 a lot of society doesn't think it's an UWpLtOjGdko-00130-00029740-00029862 issue because they've been indoctrinated UWpLtOjGdko-00131-00029863-00030114 into carnism the invisible belief system UWpLtOjGdko-00132-00030115-00030268 which tells people that it's normal UWpLtOjGdko-00133-00030269-00030471 natural and necessary to eat animals so UWpLtOjGdko-00134-00030472-00030705 they don't even question it so we have UWpLtOjGdko-00135-00030706-00030861 to first force them to acknowledge that UWpLtOjGdko-00136-00030862-00031060 animals animal rights actually is an UWpLtOjGdko-00137-00031061-00031230 issue and that animals actually are UWpLtOjGdko-00138-00031231-00031443 victims because the animal products UWpLtOjGdko-00139-00031444-00031701 industry has done such a good job at you UWpLtOjGdko-00140-00031702-00031858 know a magic trick if you like as Gary UWpLtOjGdko-00141-00031858-00032058 Yourofsky says of turning these sentient UWpLtOjGdko-00142-00032059-00032248 living breathing beings into inanimate UWpLtOjGdko-00143-00032249-00032557 objects and prod just simple products UWpLtOjGdko-00144-00032558-00032886 and commodities so once we I mean like UWpLtOjGdko-00145-00032887-00033160 we spoke about today on stage our talk UWpLtOjGdko-00146-00033161-00033543 was ended you know talking about direct UWpLtOjGdko-00147-00033544-00033760 action and and how we got into it and UWpLtOjGdko-00148-00033761-00033924 the thing was we always looked at these UWpLtOjGdko-00149-00033925-00034146 direct actions we watched a a Steakhouse UWpLtOjGdko-00150-00034147-00034305 disruption how many years ago and we UWpLtOjGdko-00151-00034306-00034527 were like we're never doing that surely UWpLtOjGdko-00152-00034528-00034695 that's bad for veganism it's making us UWpLtOjGdko-00153-00034696-00034908 look crazy and aggressive and bad and UWpLtOjGdko-00154-00034909-00035089 this cannot be a good thing for the UWpLtOjGdko-00155-00035090-00035299 movement now we never said anything out UWpLtOjGdko-00156-00035300-00035518 loud because we never want to criticize UWpLtOjGdko-00157-00035519-00035743 any form of activism so we're just UWpLtOjGdko-00158-00035744-00035917 grateful that vegans are actually taking UWpLtOjGdko-00159-00035918-00036157 actually do whatever you think is the UWpLtOjGdko-00160-00036158-00036324 right way to do it but between us we UWpLtOjGdko-00161-00036325-00036526 were like surely this is not good I know UWpLtOjGdko-00162-00036527-00036687 this isn't effective surely it's even UWpLtOjGdko-00163-00036688-00036765 counterproductive UWpLtOjGdko-00164-00036766-00036985 yeah and now is actually we were in UWpLtOjGdko-00165-00036986-00037224 Melbourne together doing some action UWpLtOjGdko-00166-00037225-00037527 this was November 2017 okay and the the UWpLtOjGdko-00167-00037528-00037674 friend that we were staying with Fiona UWpLtOjGdko-00168-00037675-00037908 we were staying up all night and I UWpLtOjGdko-00169-00037909-00038023 remembers talking to Fiona UWpLtOjGdko-00170-00038024-00038226 about direct action and I said to her UWpLtOjGdko-00171-00038227-00038427 feet you know I don't think this is good UWpLtOjGdko-00172-00038428-00038617 and she was already on board and she was UWpLtOjGdko-00173-00038618-00038779 trying to explain it and I still didn't UWpLtOjGdko-00174-00038780-00038976 get it and now she laughs at us mind you UWpLtOjGdko-00175-00038977-00039205 but um when we watched that video the UWpLtOjGdko-00176-00039206-00039420 sides of social change that's when we're UWpLtOjGdko-00177-00039421-00039499 like UWpLtOjGdko-00178-00039500-00039739 ah we get it and it's the way it's UWpLtOjGdko-00179-00039740-00040012 explained as everything that Lucas said UWpLtOjGdko-00180-00040013-00040285 and it's just a totally different way of UWpLtOjGdko-00181-00040286-00040615 trying to reach people and it's because UWpLtOjGdko-00182-00040616-00040732 we're not trying to get them to go vegan UWpLtOjGdko-00183-00040733-00040873 yeah that's the thing we thought ah UWpLtOjGdko-00184-00040874-00041032 who's gonna go vegan by people going UWpLtOjGdko-00185-00041033-00041215 into a steak house shouting out it's not UWpLtOjGdko-00186-00041216-00041452 food it's violence it's not designed to UWpLtOjGdko-00187-00041453-00041626 turn people vegan it's designed to UWpLtOjGdko-00188-00041627-00041836 create social debate to force the issue UWpLtOjGdko-00189-00041837-00042035 into the mainstream and it's a debate UWpLtOjGdko-00190-00042036-00042307 that we must force the issue of Joey UWpLtOjGdko-00191-00042308-00042617 because as Dex a co-founder Wayne Chong UWpLtOjGdko-00192-00042618-00042826 says it's a we must force the debate UWpLtOjGdko-00193-00042827-00042988 because we know we can win the debate of UWpLtOjGdko-00194-00042989-00043171 course because there is no moral UWpLtOjGdko-00195-00043172-00043354 justification for needlessly killing a UWpLtOjGdko-00196-00043355-00043489 sentient being who doesn't want to die UWpLtOjGdko-00197-00043490-00043699 but we have to first have to force that UWpLtOjGdko-00198-00043700-00043907 debate and you know you've done a great UWpLtOjGdko-00199-00043908-00044074 job of it being on a good morning UWpLtOjGdko-00200-00044075-00044221 Britain a number of times with Piers UWpLtOjGdko-00201-00044222-00044449 Morgan and bringing that into the public UWpLtOjGdko-00202-00044450-00044712 consciousness to start that debate UWpLtOjGdko-00203-00044713-00044960 interesting isn't it and you know a lot UWpLtOjGdko-00204-00044961-00045232 of the radio interviews that I get asked UWpLtOjGdko-00205-00045233-00045436 to do are off the back of some direct UWpLtOjGdko-00206-00045437-00045568 action that people are thinking in UWpLtOjGdko-00207-00045569-00045742 certainly you know that's crazy vegans UWpLtOjGdko-00208-00045743-00045868 we're gonna get Joey Cubs drummer to UWpLtOjGdko-00209-00045869-00046067 talk about this okay so it worked to get UWpLtOjGdko-00210-00046068-00046219 me on to talk about this you know like UWpLtOjGdko-00211-00046220-00046390 an even like in France they were UWpLtOjGdko-00212-00046391-00046558 smashing butcher windows and I'm in UWpLtOjGdko-00213-00046559-00046748 England getting talking on the radio UWpLtOjGdko-00214-00046749-00046918 about it so yeah maybe you might think I UWpLtOjGdko-00215-00046919-00047057 was smashing a window what's that gonna UWpLtOjGdko-00216-00047058-00047236 do but it says in speciesism at the top UWpLtOjGdko-00217-00047237-00047432 and spray-paint and I'm on up there UWpLtOjGdko-00218-00047433-00047590 advocating on the radio so that the UWpLtOjGdko-00219-00047591-00047746 advocates come in and sort of sweep it UWpLtOjGdko-00220-00047747-00047980 up so yeah I totally see how that UWpLtOjGdko-00221-00047981-00048415 dynamic can work for sure and so I kind UWpLtOjGdko-00222-00048416-00048550 of got a bit worried when I seen you on UWpLtOjGdko-00223-00048551-00048982 the floor now what was going to explain UWpLtOjGdko-00224-00048983-00049195 from both of your perspectives what was UWpLtOjGdko-00225-00049196-00049773 going on there in Germany do you want UWpLtOjGdko-00226-00049774-00049987 how you felt in the moment and all UWpLtOjGdko-00227-00049988-00050188 elaborate a little bit all right so um UWpLtOjGdko-00228-00050189-00050504 that action was in Berlin and we had UWpLtOjGdko-00229-00050505-00050755 just to put this into perspective we we UWpLtOjGdko-00230-00050756-00050887 always have a meeting point for UWpLtOjGdko-00231-00050888-00051133 activists to to get to and then we give UWpLtOjGdko-00232-00051134-00051268 the briefing of what's going on so UWpLtOjGdko-00233-00051269-00051487 nobody knows what the action is except UWpLtOjGdko-00234-00051488-00051727 for the organizers so we had a meeting UWpLtOjGdko-00235-00051728-00052021 place in a park and we get there and UWpLtOjGdko-00236-00052022-00052402 we're like holy I don't know if we can UWpLtOjGdko-00237-00052403-00052565 swear on this channel go for it holy UWpLtOjGdko-00238-00052566-00052795 have a hundred and ten pee UWpLtOjGdko-00239-00052796-00053020 here tonight a hundred and ten people UWpLtOjGdko-00240-00053021-00053194 willing to take direct action for UWpLtOjGdko-00241-00053195-00053374 animals that's a lot a lot this is the UWpLtOjGdko-00242-00053375-00053551 biggest disruption that we have ever UWpLtOjGdko-00243-00053552-00053824 organized onto her well so while we were UWpLtOjGdko-00244-00053825-00054019 super excited and then when we asked you UWpLtOjGdko-00245-00054020-00054175 know how many people are disrupting for UWpLtOjGdko-00246-00054176-00054340 the first time about half of them put UWpLtOjGdko-00247-00054341-00054475 their hand up raising and we're thinking UWpLtOjGdko-00248-00054476-00054644 wow we have so many first-time UWpLtOjGdko-00249-00054645-00055003 disruptors here this is great now the UWpLtOjGdko-00250-00055004-00055176 great thing is that short always put UWpLtOjGdko-00251-00055177-00055303 people want to get involved in direct UWpLtOjGdko-00252-00055304-00055569 action the not-so-great thing is that it UWpLtOjGdko-00253-00055570-00055794 makes it more difficult to carry that UWpLtOjGdko-00254-00055795-00056029 action out do receptions are one of the UWpLtOjGdko-00255-00056029-00056307 most hardest forms of actions to to UWpLtOjGdko-00256-00056308-00056557 organize and to carry through there are UWpLtOjGdko-00257-00056558-00056892 so many elements to consider honestly it UWpLtOjGdko-00258-00056894-00057184 is it is just a pool you really got to UWpLtOjGdko-00259-00057185-00057448 consider a hundred and one things many UWpLtOjGdko-00260-00057449-00057579 things could go wrong it seems like UWpLtOjGdko-00261-00057580-00057796 everything can go wrong and so there's UWpLtOjGdko-00262-00057797-00057891 you know we won't get into it now UWpLtOjGdko-00263-00057892-00058066 because it's like a whole other season UWpLtOjGdko-00264-00058066-00058246 but there are so many things that you UWpLtOjGdko-00265-00058247-00058390 need to check and double-check and know UWpLtOjGdko-00266-00058391-00058519 what you're doing yeah so to get a UWpLtOjGdko-00267-00058520-00058723 hundred and ten people doing that and UWpLtOjGdko-00268-00058724-00058915 half of them the first time we were like UWpLtOjGdko-00269-00058916-00059163 all right let's see how this happens as UWpLtOjGdko-00270-00059164-00059469 it turns out we were warned that the UWpLtOjGdko-00271-00059470-00059671 security in Germany come down really UWpLtOjGdko-00272-00059672-00059896 heavy-handed yeah and so they said UWpLtOjGdko-00273-00059897-00059998 they're gonna be on to us straight away UWpLtOjGdko-00274-00059999-00060121 and they're gonna try and shut it down UWpLtOjGdko-00275-00060122-00060259 and we're like yeah this happens ever to UWpLtOjGdko-00276-00060260-00060412 us everywhere cuz no problem we'll deal UWpLtOjGdko-00277-00060413-00060646 with it like everywhere else well it was UWpLtOjGdko-00278-00060647-00060859 actually quite they were right there was UWpLtOjGdko-00279-00060860-00061076 more intense than anywhere else and UWpLtOjGdko-00280-00061077-00061326 they've met you know they're huge in UWpLtOjGdko-00281-00061327-00061561 Germany they're such big guys yeah like UWpLtOjGdko-00282-00061562-00061716 I'm always looking up at people but they UWpLtOjGdko-00283-00061717-00062094 were like you know huge guys and so it's UWpLtOjGdko-00284-00062095-00062376 a physical kind of domination if you UWpLtOjGdko-00285-00062377-00062650 like it was quite intense so basically UWpLtOjGdko-00286-00062651-00062869 we did our one minute of silence and UWpLtOjGdko-00287-00062870-00063088 people had signs people had flowers we UWpLtOjGdko-00288-00063089-00063226 had some candles we were all dressed in UWpLtOjGdko-00289-00063227-00063472 funeral attire all in black and then it UWpLtOjGdko-00290-00063473-00063681 was time for Luca to start chanting UWpLtOjGdko-00291-00063682-00063879 mmhmm soon as he pulled out the UWpLtOjGdko-00292-00063880-00064090 megaphone the security were already UWpLtOjGdko-00293-00064091-00064288 there but they came for the megaphone UWpLtOjGdko-00294-00064289-00064447 straight away which is what they always UWpLtOjGdko-00295-00064448-00064615 do they usually go after Luca with the UWpLtOjGdko-00296-00064616-00064767 megaphone and me with the camera yeah UWpLtOjGdko-00297-00064769-00065059 but it was a lot more hands-on than it's UWpLtOjGdko-00298-00065060-00065278 ever been anywhere else and they UWpLtOjGdko-00299-00065279-00065500 wouldn't let go Luca wouldn't let go and UWpLtOjGdko-00300-00065501-00065826 then the next thing I see is they've got UWpLtOjGdko-00301-00065827-00065987 him by each arm UWpLtOjGdko-00302-00065988-00066197 they're walking him out and then Luca UWpLtOjGdko-00303-00066198-00066401 knows we're supposed to make it very UWpLtOjGdko-00304-00066402-00066572 difficult we're not supposed to help UWpLtOjGdko-00305-00066573-00066899 them yeah you know don't let them drag UWpLtOjGdko-00306-00066900-00067088 you into it exactly so he went limp he UWpLtOjGdko-00307-00067089-00067307 dropped to the ground and as soon as he UWpLtOjGdko-00308-00067308-00067550 did that I'm like okay we're going there UWpLtOjGdko-00309-00067551-00067706 because this has never happened before UWpLtOjGdko-00310-00067707-00067947 to us it's never escalated to that point UWpLtOjGdko-00311-00067948-00068282 and usually when you go limp and drop to UWpLtOjGdko-00312-00068283-00068534 the ground they just drop you but they UWpLtOjGdko-00313-00068535-00068687 started dragging him across the UWpLtOjGdko-00314-00068688-00068900 supermarket floor and that's when my UWpLtOjGdko-00315-00068901-00069092 heart really started racing I got very UWpLtOjGdko-00316-00069093-00069266 nervous because it was the first time UWpLtOjGdko-00317-00069267-00069467 that it had escalated to this point and UWpLtOjGdko-00318-00069468-00069632 as I said we had a hundred and ten UWpLtOjGdko-00319-00069633-00069818 people with us half of them first-time UWpLtOjGdko-00320-00069819-00070622 disruptors well it is normal but it UWpLtOjGdko-00321-00070623-00070790 hasn't yet has it happened to us before UWpLtOjGdko-00322-00070791-00071093 yeah so he's on the ground and my UWpLtOjGdko-00323-00071094-00071303 instinct our mind you at that exact UWpLtOjGdko-00324-00071304-00071753 moment the the coverage of our more UWpLtOjGdko-00325-00071754-00071828 live-streaming UWpLtOjGdko-00326-00071829-00072116 it just dropped out the network dropped UWpLtOjGdko-00327-00072117-00072317 out so it was because the supermarket UWpLtOjGdko-00328-00072318-00072512 was sort of like down and in and yes it UWpLtOjGdko-00329-00072513-00072716 must be too much concrete okay and so I UWpLtOjGdko-00330-00072717-00072923 had no connections so I'm no longer live UWpLtOjGdko-00331-00072924-00073318 I'm like oh my god we have to film this UWpLtOjGdko-00332-00073319-00073607 you know this bit of chaos but my first UWpLtOjGdko-00333-00073608-00073817 instinct was actually should I just like UWpLtOjGdko-00334-00073818-00074263 drop on top of him so that double weight UWpLtOjGdko-00335-00074264-00074622 I mean it's not like weigh much but it UWpLtOjGdko-00336-00074623-00074840 was more like would they do anything if UWpLtOjGdko-00337-00074841-00074993 I'm laying on top of him as a woman UWpLtOjGdko-00338-00074994-00075155 maybe that just like pick me up and UWpLtOjGdko-00339-00075156-00075372 throw me out aside I don't know but I UWpLtOjGdko-00340-00075373-00075494 sort of thought well I just like flop on UWpLtOjGdko-00341-00075495-00075765 him anyway I didn't do that but it was UWpLtOjGdko-00342-00075766-00076035 quite yeah in that moment because it was UWpLtOjGdko-00343-00076036-00076277 the first time I did have a bit of fear UWpLtOjGdko-00344-00076278-00076497 and a bit of panic like oh where is this UWpLtOjGdko-00345-00076498-00076712 gonna go yeah and then when Luca got up UWpLtOjGdko-00346-00076713-00077066 the look on his face was like oh okay UWpLtOjGdko-00347-00077067-00077267 and then he started chanting again and UWpLtOjGdko-00348-00077268-00077627 I'm like oh that's my baby but at the UWpLtOjGdko-00349-00077628-00077768 same time they were on him straight away UWpLtOjGdko-00350-00077769-00077969 and then they grabbed him by the back of UWpLtOjGdko-00351-00077970-00078191 the neck and then one guy on each arm UWpLtOjGdko-00352-00078192-00078386 and they were dragging him out and UWpLtOjGdko-00353-00078387-00078650 forcing his head like his neck down and UWpLtOjGdko-00354-00078651-00078866 it was very violent yeah and I still UWpLtOjGdko-00355-00078867-00079065 didn't have any camera recording and so UWpLtOjGdko-00356-00079066-00079215 I've got someone else's and someone else UWpLtOjGdko-00357-00079216-00079310 was live streaming UWpLtOjGdko-00358-00079311-00079542 and then we get outside and they're UWpLtOjGdko-00359-00079543-00079689 still being rough and then they tried to UWpLtOjGdko-00360-00079690-00079881 well they the security guys detained us UWpLtOjGdko-00361-00079882-00080046 yeah and then they tried to force us UWpLtOjGdko-00362-00080047-00080208 into this room and that's where we're UWpLtOjGdko-00363-00080209-00080409 like we are not getting in there cuz we UWpLtOjGdko-00364-00080410-00080553 knew what they were doing was assault UWpLtOjGdko-00365-00080554-00080733 yeah and they were not allowed to man UWpLtOjGdko-00366-00080734-00081060 how not know and they couldn't put us in UWpLtOjGdko-00367-00081061-00081234 that room and they wanted Luka to go in UWpLtOjGdko-00368-00081235-00081390 there by himself without me and like UWpLtOjGdko-00369-00081391-00081513 he's not going anywhere UWpLtOjGdko-00370-00081514-00081657 yeah all right I'm going with him and UWpLtOjGdko-00371-00081658-00081930 I'm filming everything yeah and finally UWpLtOjGdko-00372-00081931-00082242 they called the police and then we were UWpLtOjGdko-00373-00082243-00082416 talking with them and now usual you know UWpLtOjGdko-00374-00082417-00082599 kind of smooth talking didn't really UWpLtOjGdko-00375-00082600-00082812 work with them too oh yeah we used to UWpLtOjGdko-00376-00082813-00083019 try to we're usually able to talk our UWpLtOjGdko-00377-00083020-00083256 way out of things and they weren't they UWpLtOjGdko-00378-00083257-00083418 weren't having it they weren't you know UWpLtOjGdko-00379-00083419-00083610 I asked him mum this was another cop UWpLtOjGdko-00380-00083611-00083817 later on I said what's your name mate UWpLtOjGdko-00381-00083818-00084096 extending my hand shaky hand you know UWpLtOjGdko-00382-00084097-00084387 get a bit friendly and he pointed to his UWpLtOjGdko-00383-00084388-00084630 vest and said my number is and it was UWpLtOjGdko-00384-00084631-00084795 for 265 blah blah blah blah blah and UWpLtOjGdko-00385-00084796-00084945 like wow you don't even have a name UWpLtOjGdko-00386-00084946-00085098 we're just referring to you as a number UWpLtOjGdko-00387-00085099-00085380 so it was super cold yeah the first cop UWpLtOjGdko-00388-00085381-00085569 said you know we're gonna charge you UWpLtOjGdko-00389-00085570-00085725 we're gonna take you to court we're UWpLtOjGdko-00390-00085726-00085842 gonna blah blah blah and we're thinking UWpLtOjGdko-00391-00085843-00086022 I'll make we've got a speech tomorrow UWpLtOjGdko-00392-00086023-00086196 we've got a kid we got an animal rights UWpLtOjGdko-00393-00086197-00086781 speech we're halfway through - we've got UWpLtOjGdko-00394-00086782-00086961 to keep going so I go god this is gonna UWpLtOjGdko-00395-00086962-00087192 be a real pain we didn't have ID with us UWpLtOjGdko-00396-00087193-00087396 we got handed onto another police UWpLtOjGdko-00397-00087397-00087573 officer blah blah blah long story short UWpLtOjGdko-00398-00087574-00088011 it's already long story sorry ended up UWpLtOjGdko-00399-00088012-00088269 being put in a police yeah and they UWpLtOjGdko-00400-00088270-00088494 drove us back to our Airbnb they wanted UWpLtOjGdko-00401-00088495-00088737 to see documentation they came up to the UWpLtOjGdko-00402-00088738-00089121 apartment and they stayed outside like I UWpLtOjGdko-00403-00089122-00089271 mean obviously we didn't want them to UWpLtOjGdko-00404-00089272-00089403 come in I mean that was just getting UWpLtOjGdko-00405-00089404-00089607 ridiculous and we thought that we were UWpLtOjGdko-00406-00089608-00089736 going to be taken to the police station UWpLtOjGdko-00407-00089737-00089889 after that because that's what they told UWpLtOjGdko-00408-00089890-00090144 us so I'm like how long do you expect to UWpLtOjGdko-00409-00090145-00090327 keep us like how many hours will I bring UWpLtOjGdko-00410-00090328-00090513 clothes and he's like you don't need to UWpLtOjGdko-00411-00090514-00090642 bring a toothbrush I just want your UWpLtOjGdko-00412-00090643-00090909 passport I'm like oh alright that was UWpLtOjGdko-00413-00090910-00090972 embarrassing UWpLtOjGdko-00414-00090973-00091374 so so that is one of your ID yeah at the UWpLtOjGdko-00415-00091375-00091509 end and they let us go so I think I was UWpLtOjGdko-00416-00091510-00091872 just a scare tactic and oh that was the UWpLtOjGdko-00417-00091873-00092031 whole thing wasn't it but basically it UWpLtOjGdko-00418-00092032-00092232 was intense for the first time and next UWpLtOjGdko-00419-00092233-00092453 time we're much better prepared yeah UWpLtOjGdko-00420-00092454-00092675 it's like anything you do the first UWpLtOjGdko-00421-00092676-00093035 you know it's like whoa and that sounds UWpLtOjGdko-00422-00093036-00093182 like distressing but like you're like UWpLtOjGdko-00423-00093183-00093437 yeah you don't get manhandling so like UWpLtOjGdko-00424-00093438-00093641 how did you feel you don't really you UWpLtOjGdko-00425-00093642-00093765 haven't been really the raucous type UWpLtOjGdko-00426-00093766-00094128 like I had many scars on your eyebrows UWpLtOjGdko-00427-00094129-00094278 like what did I feel like getting you UWpLtOjGdko-00428-00094279-00094388 know dragged around like that and you UWpLtOjGdko-00429-00094389-00094469 didn't know what though they could have UWpLtOjGdko-00430-00094470-00094574 taken you out and beating you up you UWpLtOjGdko-00431-00094575-00094757 didn't really know that so but you kept UWpLtOjGdko-00432-00094758-00094860 chanting what was going through your UWpLtOjGdko-00433-00094861-00095087 head right so Joey we've been very much UWpLtOjGdko-00434-00095088-00095255 inspired by other social justice UWpLtOjGdko-00435-00095256-00095444 movements in particular the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00436-00095445-00095582 movement within the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00437-00095583-00095726 movement something called the sit-in UWpLtOjGdko-00438-00095727-00095859 movement which many of your listeners UWpLtOjGdko-00439-00095860-00096053 would no doubt be familiar with whereby UWpLtOjGdko-00440-00096054-00096332 it was illegal at one point in time for UWpLtOjGdko-00441-00096333-00096500 black people to sit at white-only lunch UWpLtOjGdko-00442-00096501-00096885 counters in places like Woolworths for UWpLtOjGdko-00443-00096886-00097203 example and you know they had a during UWpLtOjGdko-00444-00097204-00097359 the sit-in movement what the activists UWpLtOjGdko-00445-00097360-00097572 would do they're actually trained not to UWpLtOjGdko-00446-00097573-00097772 react no matter what would happen to UWpLtOjGdko-00447-00097773-00097955 them if they actually tried to sit at UWpLtOjGdko-00448-00097956-00098168 the whites only lunch counter and so if UWpLtOjGdko-00449-00098169-00098378 you just go on to YouTube and you type UWpLtOjGdko-00450-00098379-00098537 in sit-in movement you can see some UWpLtOjGdko-00451-00098538-00098810 videos and you'll see the activists UWpLtOjGdko-00452-00098811-00098999 sitting at the whites only lunch counter UWpLtOjGdko-00453-00099000-00099198 you'll have white people coming up and UWpLtOjGdko-00454-00099199-00099488 hurling a racial abuse at them then they UWpLtOjGdko-00455-00099489-00099674 will throw food at them then they will UWpLtOjGdko-00456-00099675-00099875 actually physically grab them and drug UWpLtOjGdko-00457-00099876-00100073 dragged them to the floor and then they UWpLtOjGdko-00458-00100074-00100272 will proceed to punch them and kick them UWpLtOjGdko-00459-00100273-00100466 well and you know this is it's really UWpLtOjGdko-00460-00100467-00100698 gut-wrenching and what happens is when UWpLtOjGdko-00461-00100699-00100890 the civil activists civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00462-00100891-00101129 activists didn't react to all of that UWpLtOjGdko-00463-00101130-00101444 verbal and physical abuse yeah it's very UWpLtOjGdko-00464-00101445-00101750 clear to the bystander to the onlooker UWpLtOjGdko-00465-00101751-00102023 to the impartial observer who the victim UWpLtOjGdko-00466-00102024-00102248 is and who the oppressor is it's it's UWpLtOjGdko-00467-00102249-00102590 crystal way and so it's so powerful so UWpLtOjGdko-00468-00102591-00102854 we try to adapt what the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00469-00102855-00102999 activists did during the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00470-00103000-00103151 movement in particular sit-in movement UWpLtOjGdko-00471-00103152-00103361 to the animal rights movement and so UWpLtOjGdko-00472-00103363-00103517 when a non vegan UWpLtOjGdko-00473-00103518-00103829 or even a vegan who perhaps is skeptical UWpLtOjGdko-00474-00103830-00104036 about direct action is watching the UWpLtOjGdko-00475-00104038-00104441 footage it's just so powerful and UWpLtOjGdko-00476-00104442-00104711 impactful you know while these people UWpLtOjGdko-00477-00104713-00104951 are standing up peacefully non-violently UWpLtOjGdko-00478-00104952-00105164 against injustice and yet look at the UWpLtOjGdko-00479-00105165-00105321 violence there's they're being subjected UWpLtOjGdko-00480-00105322-00105621 to and so it has a very powerful UWpLtOjGdko-00481-00105622-00105809 on the observer and the other thing with UWpLtOjGdko-00482-00105810-00106036 the city movement not only did they not UWpLtOjGdko-00483-00106038-00106286 respond to the violence but they picked UWpLtOjGdko-00484-00106288-00106488 themselves up and they got back on the UWpLtOjGdko-00485-00106489-00106685 seat and they kept going with their UWpLtOjGdko-00486-00106686-00106841 disruption and that's what Luka did in UWpLtOjGdko-00487-00106842-00106998 that moment when he's being manhandled UWpLtOjGdko-00488-00106999-00107189 by the back of the neck and physically UWpLtOjGdko-00489-00107190-00107346 like they were grabbing him by the ribs UWpLtOjGdko-00490-00107347-00107577 and arms that was so full-on what did he UWpLtOjGdko-00491-00107578-00107826 do he kept chanting so as we're going up UWpLtOjGdko-00492-00107827-00108051 the escalator leaving the the UWpLtOjGdko-00493-00108052-00108258 supermarket and the whole mall and UWpLtOjGdko-00494-00108258-00108399 they've got him by the back of the neck UWpLtOjGdko-00495-00108400-00108714 he's still screaming it's not food it's UWpLtOjGdko-00496-00108715-00109095 violence and so to keep that chant going UWpLtOjGdko-00497-00109096-00109356 whilst you're being manhandled in the UWpLtOjGdko-00498-00109357-00109647 most physical violent disgusting way UWpLtOjGdko-00499-00109648-00109908 yeah everyone there at the disruption UWpLtOjGdko-00500-00109908-00110177 went geez UWpLtOjGdko-00501-00110178-00110358 we're gonna keep chanting it was super UWpLtOjGdko-00502-00110358-00110552 inspired you have a calculated thought UWpLtOjGdko-00503-00110553-00110700 process and go I've got to keep chanting UWpLtOjGdko-00504-00110701-00110907 because I've got to keep you was that UWpLtOjGdko-00505-00110908-00111110 just a spontaneous thing or do you think UWpLtOjGdko-00506-00111111-00111276 about that when you before you did it UWpLtOjGdko-00507-00111277-00111423 yeah absolutely I was thinking of the UWpLtOjGdko-00508-00111424-00111686 110 activists who are there watching and UWpLtOjGdko-00509-00111688-00111858 they're thinking wow this is escalated UWpLtOjGdko-00510-00111858-00112028 quickly you know what's gonna happen UWpLtOjGdko-00511-00112029-00112263 here and I thought the best thing to do UWpLtOjGdko-00512-00112264-00112478 in this situation is to continue to be a UWpLtOjGdko-00513-00112479-00112794 voice for the victims in animals and I UWpLtOjGdko-00514-00112795-00112944 know that these are the hundred and ten UWpLtOjGdko-00515-00112945-00113102 activists here are going to be inspired UWpLtOjGdko-00516-00113103-00113354 by that little act of bravery or courage UWpLtOjGdko-00517-00113355-00113664 on my part and sure enough they joined UWpLtOjGdko-00518-00113665-00113885 in now there was that huge chorus of a UWpLtOjGdko-00519-00113886-00114104 hundred and ten voices chanting it's not UWpLtOjGdko-00520-00114105-00114327 food it's violence and I just think it UWpLtOjGdko-00521-00114328-00114795 was very powerful impactful effective so UWpLtOjGdko-00522-00114796-00114995 I just think you know sometimes all UWpLtOjGdko-00523-00114996-00115251 social justice movements have called for UWpLtOjGdko-00524-00115252-00115470 a little bit of personal sacrifice on UWpLtOjGdko-00525-00115471-00115790 behalf of activists and you know some of UWpLtOjGdko-00526-00115791-00116007 us you know have to do that and be the UWpLtOjGdko-00527-00116008-00116268 example for others and in that moment I UWpLtOjGdko-00528-00116269-00116496 guess I was able to display a little bit UWpLtOjGdko-00529-00116497-00116739 to hopefully inspire others to continue UWpLtOjGdko-00530-00116740-00116879 to take more nonviolent direct action UWpLtOjGdko-00531-00116880-00117039 and all that to that what's been really UWpLtOjGdko-00532-00117040-00117213 great for us Joey is for the last two UWpLtOjGdko-00533-00117214-00117359 years we've gone to the Animal UWpLtOjGdko-00534-00117360-00117513 Liberation conference in Berkeley UWpLtOjGdko-00535-00117514-00117578 California UWpLtOjGdko-00536-00117579-00117726 now that's run by direct action UWpLtOjGdko-00537-00117727-00117969 everywhere and it is absolutely UWpLtOjGdko-00538-00117970-00118109 fantastic because it's a week-long UWpLtOjGdko-00539-00118110-00118433 immersion into direct action and all of UWpLtOjGdko-00540-00118434-00118623 the things that entails and so we have UWpLtOjGdko-00541-00118624-00118782 learned for the last two years these UWpLtOjGdko-00542-00118783-00118918 little things yeah UWpLtOjGdko-00543-00118919-00119041 we've picked up hearing other people UWpLtOjGdko-00544-00119042-00119221 speak going to other disruptions UWpLtOjGdko-00545-00119222-00119575 learning from you know professionals if UWpLtOjGdko-00546-00119576-00119784 you like in the field of direct action UWpLtOjGdko-00547-00119785-00120022 and so that's really equipped us and UWpLtOjGdko-00548-00120023-00120244 empowered us with the tools and the UWpLtOjGdko-00549-00120245-00120478 confidence and everything that we've UWpLtOjGdko-00550-00120479-00120622 needed to be able to deal with those UWpLtOjGdko-00551-00120623-00120931 situations and guide people along there UWpLtOjGdko-00552-00120932-00121083 with us even if it's the first time that UWpLtOjGdko-00553-00121084-00121402 we're experiencing it we can still kind UWpLtOjGdko-00554-00121403-00121477 of hold it together UWpLtOjGdko-00555-00121478-00121690 and keep going because that training has UWpLtOjGdko-00556-00121691-00121933 really set us up and so we encourage UWpLtOjGdko-00557-00121933-00122263 everyone to get along to the ALC happens UWpLtOjGdko-00558-00122264-00122497 every year and it's just been fantastic UWpLtOjGdko-00559-00122498-00122733 amazing it's yeah well you both have UWpLtOjGdko-00560-00122734-00122938 shown a lot of confidence there and it UWpLtOjGdko-00561-00122939-00123124 is really inspiring and I was worried UWpLtOjGdko-00562-00123125-00123496 and then when you kept chanting it's UWpLtOjGdko-00563-00123497-00123643 really hard for me because I'm coming UWpLtOjGdko-00564-00123644-00123799 from the past that I come from like to UWpLtOjGdko-00565-00123800-00123997 see someone attack a friend of mine I UWpLtOjGdko-00566-00123998-00124185 have something that's it's kind of UWpLtOjGdko-00567-00124186-00124399 programmed into me to defend and to you UWpLtOjGdko-00568-00124400-00124540 know to attacking those moments and I UWpLtOjGdko-00569-00124541-00124816 don't really think like I don't go wait UWpLtOjGdko-00570-00124817-00124990 a second wait you know I'm all like boom UWpLtOjGdko-00571-00124991-00125184 like straight an essay like I'm at home UWpLtOjGdko-00572-00125185-00125685 like oh my god if I was but absolutely UWpLtOjGdko-00573-00125686-00125881 inspiring and it makes so much sense if UWpLtOjGdko-00574-00125882-00126121 you see someone on just not reacting and UWpLtOjGdko-00575-00126122-00126339 getting beaten by an authority then UWpLtOjGdko-00576-00126340-00126553 who's looking like the oppressor who UWpLtOjGdko-00577-00126554-00126832 it's it makes so much sense to me UWpLtOjGdko-00578-00126833-00127284 sorry you guys obviously I want to talk UWpLtOjGdko-00579-00127285-00127429 to how about something a little bit more UWpLtOjGdko-00580-00127430-00127594 emotional and I want to talk about the UWpLtOjGdko-00581-00127595-00127776 the struggles that you've gone through UWpLtOjGdko-00582-00127777-00128200 in your whole sort of I guess you could UWpLtOjGdko-00583-00128201-00128464 say just the term of advocacy and the UWpLtOjGdko-00584-00128465-00128755 ups and the downs and being public UWpLtOjGdko-00585-00128756-00128917 figures you obviously have a different UWpLtOjGdko-00586-00128918-00129208 expectation and you know you're held UWpLtOjGdko-00587-00129208-00129400 accountable by a larger audience and if UWpLtOjGdko-00588-00129401-00129604 you say something then you know you're UWpLtOjGdko-00589-00129605-00129757 getting a bunch of people criticizing UWpLtOjGdko-00590-00129758-00129952 you and you have to keep going and the UWpLtOjGdko-00591-00129953-00130161 suffering of the animals now and you UWpLtOjGdko-00592-00130163-00130383 have to of you as well you know a couple UWpLtOjGdko-00593-00130384-00130591 here so anything you go through together UWpLtOjGdko-00594-00130592-00130809 you know so I'm just wondering how you UWpLtOjGdko-00595-00130810-00131044 guys what struggles you've had and how UWpLtOjGdko-00596-00131045-00131227 you've overcome them together and stayed UWpLtOjGdko-00597-00131228-00131408 together as a couple UWpLtOjGdko-00598-00131409-00132131 he looks at me you uh yeah it's a it's a UWpLtOjGdko-00599-00132132-00132466 hard-on I mean you know that people UWpLtOjGdko-00600-00132467-00132670 think oh yeah you just make videos you UWpLtOjGdko-00601-00132671-00132886 just get on your Instagram and you put UWpLtOjGdko-00602-00132887-00133060 on a happy face and you just take a few UWpLtOjGdko-00603-00133061-00133360 words its dad ha yeah it's hard there's UWpLtOjGdko-00604-00133361-00133595 so much more that goes on behind the UWpLtOjGdko-00605-00133596-00133909 scenes that people don't see and I don't UWpLtOjGdko-00606-00133910-00134077 think and appreciate unless they're UWpLtOjGdko-00607-00134078-00134545 actually in that situation you have to UWpLtOjGdko-00608-00134546-00134779 stay focused on the bigger mission which UWpLtOjGdko-00609-00134780-00135022 is animal rights and liberation and you UWpLtOjGdko-00610-00135023-00135271 have to learn how to deal with all the UWpLtOjGdko-00611-00135272-00135604 this cannot be hurled at you you UWpLtOjGdko-00612-00135605-00135877 are severely censured you're censored by UWpLtOjGdko-00613-00135878-00136118 the platforms that we use your censored UWpLtOjGdko-00614-00136119-00136291 by the industry you're censored by the UWpLtOjGdko-00615-00136292-00136495 people that actually follow you you're UWpLtOjGdko-00616-00136496-00136720 censored by other vegans that become too UWpLtOjGdko-00617-00136721-00136915 sensitive because you know they don't UWpLtOjGdko-00618-00136916-00137086 like the fact that you use the word rape UWpLtOjGdko-00619-00137087-00137329 to describe what happens to animals you UWpLtOjGdko-00620-00137330-00137686 have censored by every single thing in UWpLtOjGdko-00621-00137687-00137887 the world practically and yet you're UWpLtOjGdko-00622-00137888-00138060 still supposed to communicate this UWpLtOjGdko-00623-00138061-00138349 fantastic strong message that's gonna UWpLtOjGdko-00624-00138350-00138613 save animals and inspire people and keep UWpLtOjGdko-00625-00138614-00138778 the show going and keep a smile on your UWpLtOjGdko-00626-00138779-00138940 face well it's all kind of feeling like UWpLtOjGdko-00627-00138941-00139213 yeah how are we gonna do this yeah it's UWpLtOjGdko-00628-00139214-00139493 really really hard it's really hard UWpLtOjGdko-00629-00139494-00139738 I forgot what your question was how do UWpLtOjGdko-00630-00139739-00139982 we what struggles have you had and how UWpLtOjGdko-00631-00139983-00140146 have you overcome them yeah so the UWpLtOjGdko-00632-00140147-00140458 struggles are keeping the show going to UWpLtOjGdko-00633-00140459-00140677 still inspire people when we're not UWpLtOjGdko-00634-00140678-00140914 always feeling inspired ourselves yeah I UWpLtOjGdko-00635-00140915-00141241 think a lot of that is um it weighs UWpLtOjGdko-00636-00141242-00141622 quite heavy on us sometimes like oK UWpLtOjGdko-00637-00141623-00141850 we've got to put on you know something UWpLtOjGdko-00638-00141851-00142024 to get everyone else involved but no but UWpLtOjGdko-00639-00142025-00142252 what drives us what motivates us who do UWpLtOjGdko-00640-00142253-00142624 we turn to for that extra boost and when UWpLtOjGdko-00641-00142625-00142837 you're bombarded with people's questions UWpLtOjGdko-00642-00142838-00143113 and concerns and troubles and it's like UWpLtOjGdko-00643-00143114-00143318 okay we're giving out advice and we're UWpLtOjGdko-00644-00143319-00143476 helping and we're working through those UWpLtOjGdko-00645-00143477-00143671 things what about our questions and our UWpLtOjGdko-00646-00143672-00143875 concerns and our troubles and where do UWpLtOjGdko-00647-00143876-00144124 we where do we go with those you know we UWpLtOjGdko-00648-00144125-00144395 also sometimes feel like we're in a hole UWpLtOjGdko-00649-00144396-00144565 how do we get ourselves out of the hole UWpLtOjGdko-00650-00144566-00144752 to make sure other people do UWpLtOjGdko-00651-00144753-00144944 end up in holes so it's all those things UWpLtOjGdko-00652-00144945-00145217 where you're just trying to do your best UWpLtOjGdko-00653-00145218-00145511 in the public eye whilst there may still UWpLtOjGdko-00654-00145512-00145760 be struggles for us dealing with those UWpLtOjGdko-00655-00145761-00146000 same things as being activists and being UWpLtOjGdko-00656-00146001-00146171 on social media all the time and and UWpLtOjGdko-00657-00146172-00146405 then we're working together 24/7 I mean UWpLtOjGdko-00658-00146406-00146555 we've been together how many years now UWpLtOjGdko-00659-00146556-00146774 cut around 21 21 you're amazing we've UWpLtOjGdko-00660-00146775-00147074 been married 15 we've been working UWpLtOjGdko-00661-00147075-00147662 together it's a long time and so for us UWpLtOjGdko-00662-00147663-00147908 there's no break so for example we don't UWpLtOjGdko-00663-00147909-00148091 get to wake up in the morning good UWpLtOjGdko-00664-00148092-00148235 morning babe have breakfast and then UWpLtOjGdko-00665-00148236-00148322 okay UWpLtOjGdko-00666-00148323-00148487 it's bye see you have a nice day at work UWpLtOjGdko-00667-00148488-00148679 and come back eight hours later we're UWpLtOjGdko-00668-00148680-00148895 together all the time yeah and so we UWpLtOjGdko-00669-00148896-00149081 become colleagues more than husband and UWpLtOjGdko-00670-00149082-00149333 wife yeah you feel like best friends and UWpLtOjGdko-00671-00149334-00149420 then you feel like brother and sister UWpLtOjGdko-00672-00149421-00149576 and you know like colleagues and you UWpLtOjGdko-00673-00149577-00149684 like now I don't even like you anymore UWpLtOjGdko-00674-00149685-00150008 going you know and how do we overcome it UWpLtOjGdko-00675-00150009-00150203 well like we said in our talk today here UWpLtOjGdko-00676-00150204-00150479 Joey at the campout we remember that UWpLtOjGdko-00677-00150480-00150809 it's all for them and by them I mean the UWpLtOjGdko-00678-00150810-00151055 animals the actual victims you know you UWpLtOjGdko-00679-00151056-00151223 know natasha has painted the picture of UWpLtOjGdko-00680-00151224-00151391 the real-life struggles that we go UWpLtOjGdko-00681-00151392-00151514 through as human beings UWpLtOjGdko-00682-00151515-00151846 and yet we always remember who the real UWpLtOjGdko-00683-00151847-00152105 victims are because nothing that we UWpLtOjGdko-00684-00152106-00152327 could ever endure would even come close UWpLtOjGdko-00685-00152328-00152636 to the hell that those animals are UWpLtOjGdko-00686-00152637-00152804 suffering every second of every minute UWpLtOjGdko-00687-00152805-00153038 of every hour of every day until we UWpLtOjGdko-00688-00153039-00153239 collectively rise up and say stop it UWpLtOjGdko-00689-00153240-00153308 enough is enough UWpLtOjGdko-00690-00153309-00153659 okay so we're I guess their foremost in UWpLtOjGdko-00691-00153660-00153914 our minds all the time we watch you know UWpLtOjGdko-00692-00153915-00154121 we've seen Dominion now 13 times because UWpLtOjGdko-00693-00154122-00154355 we've been screening and on tour and UWpLtOjGdko-00694-00154356-00154619 every time we have to give a speech or a UWpLtOjGdko-00695-00154620-00154943 talk or something or speak out I'm UWpLtOjGdko-00696-00154944-00155165 constantly remembering the images that UWpLtOjGdko-00697-00155166-00155348 I've seen in that film dominion of those UWpLtOjGdko-00698-00155349-00155621 animals suffering and then the advocacy UWpLtOjGdko-00699-00155622-00155819 comes from a different place and that UWpLtOjGdko-00700-00155820-00156014 gives you the drive as you know I don't UWpLtOjGdko-00701-00156015-00156206 need to explain it to you to keep going UWpLtOjGdko-00702-00156207-00156494 in the face of all adversity and any UWpLtOjGdko-00703-00156495-00156710 hardship that we might endure it's UWpLtOjGdko-00704-00156711-00156881 nothing it's all about perspective and UWpLtOjGdko-00705-00156882-00157055 we've gone through a lot of things in UWpLtOjGdko-00706-00157056-00157238 our relationship over what did you say UWpLtOjGdko-00707-00157239-00157448 21 years right the repeat I can never UWpLtOjGdko-00708-00157449-00157679 remember it's so long feels well it is a UWpLtOjGdko-00709-00157680-00157793 lifetime you know UWpLtOjGdko-00710-00157794-00158030 and we've gone through ups and downs for UWpLtOjGdko-00711-00158031-00158330 various things and so we always said UWpLtOjGdko-00712-00158331-00158444 well you know what we made it through UWpLtOjGdko-00713-00158445-00158594 that we made it through that we made it UWpLtOjGdko-00714-00158595-00158828 through that we just keep going yeah one UWpLtOjGdko-00715-00158829-00159005 more video one more speech one more UWpLtOjGdko-00716-00159006-00159296 workshop we just keep going and the UWpLtOjGdko-00717-00159297-00159560 screensaver on our on our laptop is a UWpLtOjGdko-00718-00159561-00159803 picture of us with a cow a beautiful UWpLtOjGdko-00719-00159804-00160031 rescue cow that we met FEMA last year UWpLtOjGdko-00720-00160032-00160466 even a sanctuary in Michigan and he was UWpLtOjGdko-00721-00160467-00160625 absolutely beautiful sasha farm UWpLtOjGdko-00722-00160626-00161000 sanctuary gosh they do magic work it's a UWpLtOjGdko-00723-00161001-00161189 farm Sanctuary that Gary Yourofsky goes UWpLtOjGdko-00724-00161190-00161300 and visits and spends a lot of time UWpLtOjGdko-00725-00161301-00161585 there is beautiful place and we had a UWpLtOjGdko-00726-00161586-00161732 beautiful picture taken with Beamer and UWpLtOjGdko-00727-00161733-00161915 he's looking up into the Sun and we're UWpLtOjGdko-00728-00161916-00162095 giving him some beautiful love and and UWpLtOjGdko-00729-00162096-00162380 that's always there as a reminder that UWpLtOjGdko-00730-00162381-00162599 hey guys get your together it's UWpLtOjGdko-00731-00162600-00162764 just another workday you work through it UWpLtOjGdko-00732-00162765-00162848 you get on with it UWpLtOjGdko-00733-00162849-00163040 you can go and chill out after this if UWpLtOjGdko-00734-00163041-00163241 you need to but we need to finish the UWpLtOjGdko-00735-00163242-00163448 job that we started losing so that's how UWpLtOjGdko-00736-00163449-00163640 we do it but yeah there's ups and downs UWpLtOjGdko-00737-00163641-00163979 it's not easy a terrible quote well it UWpLtOjGdko-00738-00163980-00164117 took I like it's a good quote but I UWpLtOjGdko-00739-00164118-00164276 guess the source is not the best it's UWpLtOjGdko-00740-00164277-00164558 like from Rocky yeah and it's not the UWpLtOjGdko-00741-00164559-00164672 original Rocky movie it's one of the UWpLtOjGdko-00742-00164673-00164864 subsequent ones it's not how hard you UWpLtOjGdko-00743-00164865-00164963 can hit UWpLtOjGdko-00744-00164964-00165209 it's how hard you can get hit and get up UWpLtOjGdko-00745-00165210-00165401 and keep moving forward exactly I think UWpLtOjGdko-00746-00165402-00165515 it was some advice he gave to his son UWpLtOjGdko-00747-00165516-00166022 but my dad used to say you don't need to UWpLtOjGdko-00748-00166023-00166166 necessarily fire but you should never UWpLtOjGdko-00749-00166167-00166358 give up and it's that that idea of UWpLtOjGdko-00750-00166359-00166592 persistence you know and you know UWpLtOjGdko-00751-00166593-00166787 overcoming all adversity and just keep UWpLtOjGdko-00752-00166788-00166937 going and going and going and we're not UWpLtOjGdko-00753-00166938-00167111 going away unless you shoot us dead and UWpLtOjGdko-00754-00167112-00167522 then just our videos are still up we can UWpLtOjGdko-00755-00167523-00167723 contact our YouTube channel open my UWpLtOjGdko-00756-00167724-00168188 coffin America go vegan now it's I UWpLtOjGdko-00757-00168189-00168356 really like to get into the mindset of UWpLtOjGdko-00758-00168357-00168545 other activists and especially when UWpLtOjGdko-00759-00168546-00168725 you're in the public eye like you guys UWpLtOjGdko-00760-00168726-00168881 have been I mean you got 20 million UWpLtOjGdko-00761-00168882-00169088 views on your YouTube channel for 23 23 UWpLtOjGdko-00762-00169089-00169361 so you know that's your message has UWpLtOjGdko-00763-00169362-00169726 always been consistent you know and it's UWpLtOjGdko-00764-00169727-00169993 the world out there is just crazy a UWpLtOjGdko-00765-00169994-00170131 people can say what they want on the UWpLtOjGdko-00766-00170132-00170454 Internet so how people like you do what UWpLtOjGdko-00767-00170455-00170701 they did Alex her shop has popped into UWpLtOjGdko-00768-00170702-00170935 the chat hey yo hi Alex living legends UWpLtOjGdko-00769-00170936-00171201 walked into the room we need to get you UWpLtOjGdko-00770-00171202-00171669 on our podcast he has no idea who we are UWpLtOjGdko-00771-00171670-00172144 thank you for your work so I was just UWpLtOjGdko-00772-00172145-00172318 trying to get into the mindset of others UWpLtOjGdko-00773-00172319-00172483 who are in the same position to see how UWpLtOjGdko-00774-00172484-00172657 they reconcile that in their minds and UWpLtOjGdko-00775-00172658-00172866 still find the courage to keep going and UWpLtOjGdko-00776-00172867-00173121 it's the persistence to keep going UWpLtOjGdko-00777-00173122-00173323 consistently in it and it is about UWpLtOjGdko-00778-00173324-00173476 focusing on the victims because when you UWpLtOjGdko-00779-00173477-00173616 see what the animals are going through UWpLtOjGdko-00780-00173617-00173788 I'm like well I'm not really doing it UWpLtOjGdko-00781-00173789-00174066 that hard and like you know I also think UWpLtOjGdko-00782-00174067-00174274 that we set these self limitations we UWpLtOjGdko-00783-00174275-00174475 were I think I'm doing too much or maybe UWpLtOjGdko-00784-00174476-00174745 I'm doing too much but I really think UWpLtOjGdko-00785-00174746-00174951 that we're capable of much more than we UWpLtOjGdko-00786-00174952-00175104 give ourselves credit for and we can UWpLtOjGdko-00787-00175105-00175302 push ourselves past limits and once we UWpLtOjGdko-00788-00175303-00175525 get to that past that limit we then have UWpLtOjGdko-00789-00175526-00175735 a different comfort zone and I think we UWpLtOjGdko-00790-00175736-00175918 can keep pushing ourselves as long as we UWpLtOjGdko-00791-00175919-00176101 just hold on and just keep pushing UWpLtOjGdko-00792-00176102-00176296 ourselves past and past and past and all UWpLtOjGdko-00793-00176297-00176509 of a sudden we've calloused our mind and UWpLtOjGdko-00794-00176510-00176761 we're ready for more and the same things UWpLtOjGdko-00795-00176762-00176926 that used to really get us down might UWpLtOjGdko-00796-00176927-00177096 have cried about it used to break us UWpLtOjGdko-00797-00177097-00177385 yeah it's nothing anymore yeah so then UWpLtOjGdko-00798-00177386-00177535 you you all of a sudden you strong UWpLtOjGdko-00799-00177536-00177757 enough to go to 80 for any criticism UWpLtOjGdko-00800-00177758-00177879 rolls off my back whenever some things UWpLtOjGdko-00801-00177880-00178072 still get to me not like they used to UWpLtOjGdko-00802-00178073-00178273 you know so it's so interesting that you UWpLtOjGdko-00803-00178274-00178462 say that because going back to the UWpLtOjGdko-00804-00178463-00178648 disruption that we did in Berlin that UWpLtOjGdko-00805-00178649-00179028 was so intense and like once we we got UWpLtOjGdko-00806-00179029-00179218 through it and then we were kind of just UWpLtOjGdko-00807-00179219-00179431 sat on the couch that night and we're UWpLtOjGdko-00808-00179432-00179754 like wow what just happened and it just UWpLtOjGdko-00809-00179755-00180165 kind of sunk in and then we made uh we UWpLtOjGdko-00810-00180166-00180429 made you know that the promos and the UWpLtOjGdko-00811-00180430-00180520 little videos that we put up on UWpLtOjGdko-00812-00180521-00180627 Instagram and when you watch that UWpLtOjGdko-00813-00180628-00180760 footage back because people were UWpLtOjGdko-00814-00180761-00180951 messaging saying are you guys alright UWpLtOjGdko-00815-00180952-00181128 like that was really yeah and then we UWpLtOjGdko-00816-00181129-00181363 watched it we're like yeah that was UWpLtOjGdko-00817-00181364-00181633 really full-on and once it sunk in and UWpLtOjGdko-00818-00181634-00181827 we realized what we just went through UWpLtOjGdko-00819-00181828-00182052 and the police and everything and bla UWpLtOjGdko-00820-00182053-00182427 bla bla bla and we were okay we felt so UWpLtOjGdko-00821-00182428-00182749 much stronger it's like man what is he UWpLtOjGdko-00822-00182750-00182857 gonna throw at us UWpLtOjGdko-00823-00182858-00183054 it's like if we could get through that UWpLtOjGdko-00824-00183055-00183244 and then all the the support that came UWpLtOjGdko-00825-00183245-00183436 through and how many people this is the UWpLtOjGdko-00826-00183437-00183598 thing that really inspired us how many UWpLtOjGdko-00827-00183599-00183825 people said I'm gonna start doing direct UWpLtOjGdko-00828-00183826-00184014 shock direct action yeah I feel strong UWpLtOjGdko-00829-00184015-00184203 enough to do this now if lugu how dare UWpLtOjGdko-00830-00184204-00184389 they do that to Luca that gentle UWpLtOjGdko-00831-00184390-00184597 beautiful man that does MOOC bungs UWpLtOjGdko-00832-00184598-00184744 yeah is all of a sudden being dragged UWpLtOjGdko-00833-00184745-00184945 out by his neck and he's still chanting UWpLtOjGdko-00834-00184946-00185148 for animal liberation I'm gonna join my UWpLtOjGdko-00835-00185149-00185368 DXE group and do some disruption and so UWpLtOjGdko-00836-00185369-00185548 when they those messages started coming UWpLtOjGdko-00837-00185549-00185785 through and we saw the result that the UWpLtOjGdko-00838-00185786-00186007 fallout the beautiful result of what had UWpLtOjGdko-00839-00186008-00186315 happened our skin grew an extra layer of UWpLtOjGdko-00840-00186316-00186576 thickness and then we said all right we UWpLtOjGdko-00841-00186577-00186789 got through that we can do anything UWpLtOjGdko-00842-00186790-00186958 we've got this and everything that came UWpLtOjGdko-00843-00186959-00187137 up in the following days like we did our UWpLtOjGdko-00844-00187138-00187323 we did the speech at the end of the UWpLtOjGdko-00845-00187324-00187677 March March and there was something else UWpLtOjGdko-00846-00187678-00187909 we did I remember then there was a UWpLtOjGdko-00847-00187910-00188098 disruption following that and we did a UWpLtOjGdko-00848-00188099-00188241 Speak Out outside people were the UWpLtOjGdko-00849-00188242-00188383 activists chained themselves it was just UWpLtOjGdko-00850-00188384-00188541 yeah like several things that came up UWpLtOjGdko-00851-00188542-00188736 afterwards and and we were just so ready UWpLtOjGdko-00852-00188737-00188928 for it all and it just felt like nothing UWpLtOjGdko-00853-00188929-00189123 because once you'd gone through at that UWpLtOjGdko-00854-00189124-00189285 point what was that quote-unquote worst UWpLtOjGdko-00855-00189286-00189493 thing or the toughest thing ended up UWpLtOjGdko-00856-00189494-00189634 making you even stronger and you could UWpLtOjGdko-00857-00189635-00189847 just persevere and then cuz we're on UWpLtOjGdko-00858-00189848-00189970 tour at the moment as you know and so UWpLtOjGdko-00859-00189971-00190123 it's been back-to-back for it it's like UWpLtOjGdko-00860-00190124-00190251 five and a half months don't really have UWpLtOjGdko-00861-00190252-00190650 time to like think about how you feel it UWpLtOjGdko-00862-00190651-00190824 just feels like how we're gonna get UWpLtOjGdko-00863-00190825-00191008 through this next really busy period of UWpLtOjGdko-00864-00191009-00191160 so many speeches and so many talks and UWpLtOjGdko-00865-00191161-00191301 so many workshops and so many events and UWpLtOjGdko-00866-00191302-00191454 it's like well we just got something UWpLtOjGdko-00867-00191455-00191569 through something that was really hard UWpLtOjGdko-00868-00191570-00191845 yeah and we survived we're stronger for UWpLtOjGdko-00869-00191846-00191949 it yeah and so we're just gonna keep UWpLtOjGdko-00870-00191950-00192150 going amazing and so yeah you're right UWpLtOjGdko-00871-00192151-00192399 it makes you tougher and stronger so UWpLtOjGdko-00872-00192400-00192556 we're talking about relativity to a UWpLtOjGdko-00873-00192557-00192757 degree as well so we look at other UWpLtOjGdko-00874-00192758-00192960 activists like Gary Yourofsky who was UWpLtOjGdko-00875-00192961-00193212 jailed for liberating 1500 mink yeah we UWpLtOjGdko-00876-00193213-00193393 look at people like Wayne Chung who's UWpLtOjGdko-00877-00193394-00193633 facing 16 felony charges in the United UWpLtOjGdko-00878-00193634-00193827 States for in animal liberation another UWpLtOjGdko-00879-00193828-00194047 related acts we look at people like UWpLtOjGdko-00880-00194048-00194289 Jenny McQueen who had a house raided by UWpLtOjGdko-00881-00194290-00194518 police at 6 a.m. you know we look at UWpLtOjGdko-00882-00194519-00194710 people like Chris Delphis who's had his UWpLtOjGdko-00883-00194711-00195022 home raided and also you know goes into UWpLtOjGdko-00884-00195023-00195273 gas chambers to plant hidden cameras to UWpLtOjGdko-00885-00195274-00195462 obtain footage of pigs being murdered UWpLtOjGdko-00886-00195463-00195816 allegedly sorry allegedly yeah he was in UWpLtOjGdko-00887-00195817-00195973 Parliament the other day to involvement UWpLtOjGdko-00888-00195974-00196168 you know so we look at all of these UWpLtOjGdko-00889-00196169-00196299 other people in the movement UWpLtOjGdko-00890-00196300-00196545 doing all these amazing acts of bravery UWpLtOjGdko-00891-00196546-00196782 and courage and we draw inspiration from UWpLtOjGdko-00892-00196783-00197018 that as amazing you know amazing to have UWpLtOjGdko-00893-00197019-00197349 community and yo people to look to and UWpLtOjGdko-00894-00197350-00197559 go wow like it doesn't power you're UWpLtOjGdko-00895-00197560-00197775 seeing other people do things and I'm UWpLtOjGdko-00896-00197776-00197964 constantly inspired by people in the UWpLtOjGdko-00897-00197965-00198204 movement and it's really like it I guess UWpLtOjGdko-00898-00198205-00198599 what it also does is it raises everyone UWpLtOjGdko-00899-00198600-00199068 like the expectation of you know what we UWpLtOjGdko-00900-00199069-00199257 could be doing it so one person might UWpLtOjGdko-00901-00199258-00199404 you have you heard what do you guys UWpLtOjGdko-00902-00199405-00199632 think about the standard by affect the UWpLtOjGdko-00903-00199633-00199752 standard by effect have you heard of the UWpLtOjGdko-00904-00199753-00199923 standard by affixing so when a car is a UWpLtOjGdko-00905-00199924-00200106 car accident everyone's frozen and no UWpLtOjGdko-00906-00200107-00200295 one comes to help until that one person UWpLtOjGdko-00907-00200296-00200526 died right it's kind of like when UWpLtOjGdko-00908-00200527-00200670 someone in the movement does something UWpLtOjGdko-00909-00200671-00200934 like whoa that was and then everyone UWpLtOjGdko-00910-00200935-00201057 else comes it meets him at that point UWpLtOjGdko-00911-00201058-00201234 sort of thing and then it's iPhone yeah UWpLtOjGdko-00912-00201235-00201405 it's like it's interesting we talk about UWpLtOjGdko-00913-00201406-00201681 the radical flank effect I get that okay UWpLtOjGdko-00914-00201682-00201984 similar - yeah a little bit different UWpLtOjGdko-00915-00201985-00202164 but similar yeah so the radical flank UWpLtOjGdko-00916-00202165-00202377 effect is when you do something that's UWpLtOjGdko-00917-00202378-00202605 perceived as extreme and it makes more UWpLtOjGdko-00918-00202606-00202857 moderate forms of activism look more UWpLtOjGdko-00919-00202858-00203097 appealing okay so we go and do a UWpLtOjGdko-00920-00203098-00203283 disruption and everyone's like wow what UWpLtOjGdko-00921-00203284-00203526 are you guys doing that so extreme so UWpLtOjGdko-00922-00203527-00203673 then they all start joining into a cube UWpLtOjGdko-00923-00203674-00203907 of truth because well if we could can be UWpLtOjGdko-00924-00203908-00204117 dragged out by the neck that's to chant UWpLtOjGdko-00925-00204118-00204306 I can go to a cube of truth and hold a UWpLtOjGdko-00926-00204307-00204531 sign for a couple of hours you know and UWpLtOjGdko-00927-00204532-00204666 then all of a sudden they go okay well UWpLtOjGdko-00928-00204667-00204792 this cubes alright maybe I can do some UWpLtOjGdko-00929-00204793-00204975 outreach that's all right well maybe I UWpLtOjGdko-00930-00204976-00205190 can go to a vigil next oh that vegan UWpLtOjGdko-00931-00205191-00205350 couples doing the next thing that's way UWpLtOjGdko-00932-00205351-00205538 too extreme well I'm gonna do it I might UWpLtOjGdko-00933-00205539-00205667 do some advocacy or something like that UWpLtOjGdko-00934-00205669-00206001 you know I'm definitely not doing that UWpLtOjGdko-00935-00206002-00206130 form of activism but I'll definitely UWpLtOjGdko-00936-00206131-00206298 I'll probably do that that doesn't seem UWpLtOjGdko-00937-00206298-00206475 as extreme now that makes perfect UWpLtOjGdko-00938-00206476-00206646 psychological sense and if I end up UWpLtOjGdko-00939-00206646-00206811 doing that extreme thing anyway yeah UWpLtOjGdko-00940-00206812-00206979 whole point and that's what we're seeing UWpLtOjGdko-00941-00206980-00207111 like that's why today's been so UWpLtOjGdko-00942-00207112-00207266 wonderful we've met so many people and UWpLtOjGdko-00943-00207267-00207512 the feedback is you know it's funny like UWpLtOjGdko-00944-00207513-00207671 it used to be oh you made me vegan which UWpLtOjGdko-00945-00207673-00207890 is fantastic yeah but now it's you made UWpLtOjGdko-00946-00207891-00208073 me an activist I don't like saying you UWpLtOjGdko-00947-00208075-00208265 made me you inspired me to be an actress UWpLtOjGdko-00948-00208266-00208538 you inspired me to be vegan so we no UWpLtOjGdko-00949-00208539-00208712 longer want to hear you inspired me to UWpLtOjGdko-00950-00208713-00208844 be vegan we want to hear you inspire me UWpLtOjGdko-00951-00208846-00208994 to be an activist and that's what we UWpLtOjGdko-00952-00208996-00209198 heard more of today than anything else UWpLtOjGdko-00953-00209200-00209436 which is perfect which reminds me of UWpLtOjGdko-00954-00209437-00209612 Australian animal rights activist and UWpLtOjGdko-00955-00209613-00209684 philanthropist UWpLtOjGdko-00956-00209685-00209865 yeah I remember you interviewed him at UWpLtOjGdko-00957-00209866-00210015 world vegan Day Melbourne a couple years UWpLtOjGdko-00958-00210016-00210213 back and he said done UWpLtOjGdko-00959-00210214-00210659 he said if I only inspire people with my UWpLtOjGdko-00960-00210660-00210806 speeches to go vegan UWpLtOjGdko-00961-00210807-00210942 I'll have seen my life's work as a UWpLtOjGdko-00962-00210942-00211191 failure essentially I'm in my intention UWpLtOjGdko-00963-00211192-00211389 is to inspire vegans to become activists UWpLtOjGdko-00964-00211390-00211700 yes words to those effects and it's true UWpLtOjGdko-00965-00211701-00211866 and I was thinking back to the radical UWpLtOjGdko-00966-00211867-00212003 flank affect the animal liberation UWpLtOjGdko-00967-00212004-00212174 conference in Berkeley which we attended UWpLtOjGdko-00968-00212175-00212303 this year and last season Ansari was UWpLtOjGdko-00969-00212304-00212517 saying this year we had the privilege of UWpLtOjGdko-00970-00212517-00212715 hearing from dr. Bernard Lafayette who UWpLtOjGdko-00971-00212716-00212862 was a colleague of Martin Luther King UWpLtOjGdko-00972-00212863-00212960 Junior's during the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00973-00212961-00213138 movement very powerful just to be in his UWpLtOjGdko-00974-00213139-00213323 presence and he was telling us a story UWpLtOjGdko-00975-00213324-00213492 about the radical flank effect whereby UWpLtOjGdko-00976-00213492-00213719 Martin Luther King jr. was imprisoned at UWpLtOjGdko-00977-00213720-00213947 one point and Malcolm X went to visit UWpLtOjGdko-00978-00213948-00214175 him in jail and one of the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00979-00214176-00214502 activists said oh we should get Malcolm UWpLtOjGdko-00980-00214503-00214673 X to speak when he comes to visit the UWpLtOjGdko-00981-00214674-00214877 city when he comes to visit Martin UWpLtOjGdko-00982-00214878-00215150 Luther King jr. in jail anyway so MA UWpLtOjGdko-00983-00215151-00215429 they got Malcolm X to speak and he at UWpLtOjGdko-00984-00215430-00215594 one point apparently he said to the UWpLtOjGdko-00985-00215595-00215759 media he looks at the media and he said UWpLtOjGdko-00986-00215760-00216020 you better listen to him referring to UWpLtOjGdko-00987-00216021-00216216 Martin Luther King jr. or you going to UWpLtOjGdko-00988-00216217-00216401 have to deal with me as of course UWpLtOjGdko-00989-00216402-00216656 Maddock Malcolm X Malcolm X provided the UWpLtOjGdko-00990-00216657-00216816 radical flank in the civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-00991-00216817-00217010 movement which made Martin Luther King UWpLtOjGdko-00992-00217011-00217634 jr. look more moderate Wow did it seem UWpLtOjGdko-00993-00217635-00218000 like they were yeah but he he was able UWpLtOjGdko-00994-00218001-00218262 to leverage off that you know the UWpLtOjGdko-00995-00218263-00218490 different approaches to would you rather UWpLtOjGdko-00996-00218491-00218984 mark Malcolm X you know whereas you know UWpLtOjGdko-00997-00218985-00219158 without a Malcolm X then Martin Luther UWpLtOjGdko-00998-00219159-00219320 King jr. looks like the extreme radical UWpLtOjGdko-00999-00219321-00219725 yeah yeah so it's very interesting and UWpLtOjGdko-01000-00219726-00219860 you know we keep saying to people look UWpLtOjGdko-01001-00219861-00219995 we don't have to reinvent the wheel UWpLtOjGdko-01002-00219996-00220253 we're not creating anything brand new UWpLtOjGdko-01003-00220254-00220433 here yeah we just need to look at what's UWpLtOjGdko-01004-00220434-00220590 worked throughout history and apply it UWpLtOjGdko-01005-00220591-00220796 to animal rights that's what we're doing UWpLtOjGdko-01006-00220797-00220976 and at the moment oh gosh he's a great UWpLtOjGdko-01007-00220977-00221115 resource you would love this by the way UWpLtOjGdko-01008-00221116-00221294 Joey we're listening to an audio book UWpLtOjGdko-01009-00221295-00221630 called this is an uprising by brothers UWpLtOjGdko-01010-00221631-00221913 mark and Paul Engler was written in 2016 UWpLtOjGdko-01011-00221914-00222114 and we came across this book because the UWpLtOjGdko-01012-00222115-00222312 co-founder of the save movement Anita UWpLtOjGdko-01013-00222313-00222494 crayons was telling us about it and she UWpLtOjGdko-01014-00222495-00222701 read it and has been inspired by it I UWpLtOjGdko-01015-00222702-00222845 believe she might have heard about it UWpLtOjGdko-01016-00222846-00222956 from some of the cofounders of UWpLtOjGdko-01017-00222957-00223041 extinction UWpLtOjGdko-01018-00223042-00223355 who we heard from Roger Hallam he's one UWpLtOjGdko-01019-00223356-00223559 of the 15 cofounders extinction UWpLtOjGdko-01020-00223560-00223742 rebellion he's a vegan phoned into the UWpLtOjGdko-01021-00223744-00223989 Animal Liberation Conference anyway they UWpLtOjGdko-01022-00223990-00224150 spent two years extinction or bone UWpLtOjGdko-01023-00224151-00224306 looking at previous social justice UWpLtOjGdko-01024-00224307-00224429 movements and what strategies and UWpLtOjGdko-01025-00224430-00224646 tactics had been successful before they UWpLtOjGdko-01026-00224646-00224792 implemented those that they're using UWpLtOjGdko-01027-00224794-00225090 with extinction or bone anyway a lot of UWpLtOjGdko-01028-00225091-00225371 their work came from the work discussed UWpLtOjGdko-01029-00225373-00225535 in the book this is an uprising UWpLtOjGdko-01030-00225536-00225741 absolutely fascinating read they're UWpLtOjGdko-01031-00225742-00225875 looking back at other social justice UWpLtOjGdko-01032-00225876-00226028 wounds in history recently we've been UWpLtOjGdko-01033-00226029-00226202 reading about the Serbian Revolution UWpLtOjGdko-01034-00226203-00226354 from 20 years ago when they ousted UWpLtOjGdko-01035-00226355-00226592 slobodan milosevic the butcher of the UWpLtOjGdko-01036-00226594-00226901 Balkans and just how you know people can UWpLtOjGdko-01037-00226902-00227088 come together at a grassroots level and UWpLtOjGdko-01038-00227089-00227373 mobilize mass numbers of people 200,000 UWpLtOjGdko-01039-00227373-00227657 in Serbia actually and and rise up and UWpLtOjGdko-01040-00227658-00227940 you know toppled dictators and it's UWpLtOjGdko-01041-00227941-00228221 absolutely fascinating to hear and learn UWpLtOjGdko-01042-00228223-00228403 what has been done throughout history UWpLtOjGdko-01043-00228404-00228707 around the world in different situations UWpLtOjGdko-01044-00228708-00228975 and there's one common thing to think UWpLtOjGdko-01045-00228976-00229130 that that's the same in all of these is UWpLtOjGdko-01046-00229131-00229394 its direct action and it's nonviolent UWpLtOjGdko-01047-00229396-00229532 you know some movements have been UWpLtOjGdko-01048-00229533-00229682 violent but movements that have used UWpLtOjGdko-01049-00229683-00229839 non-violent direct action and being more UWpLtOjGdko-01050-00229840-00230013 successful because typically people UWpLtOjGdko-01051-00230014-00230169 don't want to get involved with violence UWpLtOjGdko-01052-00230169-00230412 so when you keep it nonviolent it means UWpLtOjGdko-01053-00230413-00230531 that more people are going to want to UWpLtOjGdko-01054-00230532-00230748 get involved so we're learning we're UWpLtOjGdko-01055-00230748-00230873 educating ourselves I'm talking about UWpLtOjGdko-01056-00230875-00231152 Luca and I right now and I just feel UWpLtOjGdko-01057-00231153-00231339 like our minds are opening and expanding UWpLtOjGdko-01058-00231340-00231503 to the point where this is all we talk UWpLtOjGdko-01059-00231504-00231765 about we'll just have the the audio book UWpLtOjGdko-01060-00231766-00231894 playing as we're around the house well UWpLtOjGdko-01061-00231894-00232023 when we're traveling we're on flights or UWpLtOjGdko-01062-00232023-00232164 whatnot and we're listening to this and UWpLtOjGdko-01063-00232165-00232367 we're learning so much and so we can see UWpLtOjGdko-01064-00232369-00232548 now it's being applied to the animal UWpLtOjGdko-01065-00232548-00232751 rights movement so we're so excited to UWpLtOjGdko-01066-00232752-00232907 be returning to the UK we're going to be UWpLtOjGdko-01067-00232908-00233135 in London for animal rebellion starting UWpLtOjGdko-01068-00233136-00233306 on the 7th of October it goes for two UWpLtOjGdko-01069-00233307-00233480 weeks we'll be there for the first six UWpLtOjGdko-01070-00233481-00233756 days and we can see how so much of what UWpLtOjGdko-01071-00233757-00233942 we're reading about at the moment has UWpLtOjGdko-01072-00233944-00234131 been used with extinction rebellion and UWpLtOjGdko-01073-00234132-00234359 now with animal rebellion and it's this UWpLtOjGdko-01074-00234360-00234605 beautiful fusion of everything that that UWpLtOjGdko-01075-00234606-00234830 has happened in human history but this UWpLtOjGdko-01076-00234831-00235028 time we're applying it to animals UWpLtOjGdko-01077-00235029-00235338 amazing right and so this is I feel like UWpLtOjGdko-01078-00235339-00235556 we both feel like that the the movement UWpLtOjGdko-01079-00235557-00235764 has come to a crossroads with its UWpLtOjGdko-01080-00235765-00236040 activism has grown and then it kind of UWpLtOjGdko-01081-00236041-00236144 reached the stage where it almost UWpLtOjGdko-01082-00236146-00236280 plateaued a bit UWpLtOjGdko-01083-00236281-00236396 and now it's moving in a different UWpLtOjGdko-01084-00236398-00236604 direction and that's why we've seen the UWpLtOjGdko-01085-00236605-00236817 safe movement status has started to do a UWpLtOjGdko-01086-00236817-00237039 bit more direct action disruption so you UWpLtOjGdko-01087-00237040-00237213 saw in Toronto there was that action at UWpLtOjGdko-01088-00237214-00237516 the and we were there earlier this year UWpLtOjGdko-01089-00237517-00237848 on tour and we met the slaughterhouse UWpLtOjGdko-01090-00237850-00238035 manager and we spoke with him with the UWpLtOjGdko-01091-00238036-00238362 need of the founder of co-founder of the UWpLtOjGdko-01092-00238363-00238548 safe movement and will speaking with UWpLtOjGdko-01093-00238548-00238694 this slaughterhouse manager and he was UWpLtOjGdko-01094-00238696-00238871 saying well you know now we have all UWpLtOjGdko-01095-00238873-00239037 these plant-based options that we make UWpLtOjGdko-01096-00239038-00239256 as well and so you know we're a partly UWpLtOjGdko-01097-00239257-00239463 ethical company oh no he said we're an UWpLtOjGdko-01098-00239464-00239631 ethical company and we're like no no no UWpLtOjGdko-01099-00239632-00239784 just because you make some plant food UWpLtOjGdko-01100-00239785-00239978 options that doesn't absolve your UWpLtOjGdko-01101-00239979-00240207 muttering of animals yeah that that just UWpLtOjGdko-01102-00240208-00240378 means you're you know buying into a UWpLtOjGdko-01103-00240379-00240564 market that you'll see is growing which UWpLtOjGdko-01104-00240565-00240741 is great but you're opening another UWpLtOjGdko-01105-00240742-00240936 slaughterhouse for children so that's UWpLtOjGdko-01106-00240937-00241182 not okay and he you know we just poke UWpLtOjGdko-01107-00241183-00241332 around in circles and we went round and UWpLtOjGdko-01108-00241333-00241581 round around and we were so pleased to UWpLtOjGdko-01109-00241582-00241817 see a couple months later activists UWpLtOjGdko-01110-00241817-00242096 locking down and and being chained to a UWpLtOjGdko-01111-00242098-00242283 concrete slab shutting down that UWpLtOjGdko-01112-00242284-00242565 slaughterhouse and we saw the manager UWpLtOjGdko-01113-00242566-00242721 that we spoke with there in the the UWpLtOjGdko-01114-00242721-00242930 livestream and he just looked absolutely UWpLtOjGdko-01115-00242931-00243156 bamboozled like what am I going to do UWpLtOjGdko-01116-00243157-00243371 and we thought good you had the type the UWpLtOjGdko-01117-00243373-00243579 chance to talk to us and take action and UWpLtOjGdko-01118-00243580-00243831 change direction and you chose not to so UWpLtOjGdko-01119-00243832-00243992 you forced activists to take direct UWpLtOjGdko-01120-00243994-00244230 action and so we're seeing basically all UWpLtOjGdko-01121-00244231-00244323 of these things that have been done UWpLtOjGdko-01122-00244323-00244494 throughout human history now they're UWpLtOjGdko-01123-00244494-00244742 coming to fruition for the animal rights UWpLtOjGdko-01124-00244744-00244980 movement and that is it's going to be UWpLtOjGdko-01125-00244981-00245181 the game changer it has to be because if UWpLtOjGdko-01126-00245182-00245415 it's not that you know no group in UWpLtOjGdko-01127-00245416-00245736 history got the rights that they wanted UWpLtOjGdko-01128-00245737-00245985 through for example doing outreach or UWpLtOjGdko-01129-00245986-00246387 through vigils they are all needed UWpLtOjGdko-01130-00246388-00246561 they are definitely all needed they're UWpLtOjGdko-01131-00246562-00246726 part of it but until people take UWpLtOjGdko-01132-00246727-00247008 sustained nonviolent direct action the UWpLtOjGdko-01133-00247009-00247421 rights were not one Wow now that's kind UWpLtOjGdko-01134-00247423-00247742 of alarming and concerning but also UWpLtOjGdko-01135-00247744-00247884 great at the same time because at least UWpLtOjGdko-01136-00247885-00248144 we know what we need to do now we just UWpLtOjGdko-01137-00248146-00248262 have to get all the people that have UWpLtOjGdko-01138-00248263-00248487 been doing the you know the outreach and UWpLtOjGdko-01139-00248488-00248706 the the cubes and the vigils all of UWpLtOjGdko-01140-00248707-00248934 those people over to also doing direct UWpLtOjGdko-01141-00248935-00249121 action because we need those numbers UWpLtOjGdko-01142-00249123-00249476 well I feel very inspired and I never UWpLtOjGdko-01143-00249477-00249719 look this form of activism this UWpLtOjGdko-01144-00249720-00249851 thoroughly and you guys have obviously UWpLtOjGdko-01145-00249852-00250124 done a lot of research into this and it UWpLtOjGdko-01146-00250125-00250373 makes sense that we should repeat the UWpLtOjGdko-01147-00250374-00250517 things that were successful in the past UWpLtOjGdko-01148-00250518-00250850 and but let me just give you this UWpLtOjGdko-01149-00250851-00251066 dynamic in the past they're firing for UWpLtOjGdko-01150-00251067-00251313 humans it's different when you're humans UWpLtOjGdko-01151-00251314-00251483 you get more people it's more you know UWpLtOjGdko-01152-00251484-00251639 they're gonna fight harder and this is UWpLtOjGdko-01153-00251640-00251804 when you're at stake that's you UWpLtOjGdko-01154-00251805-00252020 defending is it's your survival but when UWpLtOjGdko-01155-00252021-00252275 you're fighting for you know animals and UWpLtOjGdko-01156-00252276-00252503 really is it gonna work the same way UWpLtOjGdko-01157-00252504-00252755 yeah just do you see these gray hairs UWpLtOjGdko-01158-00252756-00252914 that's because we have this conversation UWpLtOjGdko-01159-00252915-00253205 every day yeah this is the problem and UWpLtOjGdko-01160-00253206-00253577 we yeah so Wayne Chong co-founder of DXE UWpLtOjGdko-01161-00253578-00253766 has a video on his YouTube channel on UWpLtOjGdko-01162-00253767-00253898 direct action where's YouTube channel UWpLtOjGdko-01163-00253899-00254171 called why direct action a talk by Wayne UWpLtOjGdko-01164-00254172-00254405 Chung and he raises this issue right at UWpLtOjGdko-01165-00254406-00254728 the end okay and his response is while a UWpLtOjGdko-01166-00254729-00255020 2015 Gallup poll came out in the United UWpLtOjGdko-01167-00255021-00255383 States states which said that 34% of UWpLtOjGdko-01168-00255384-00255596 people surveyed believed that animals UWpLtOjGdko-01169-00255597-00255749 should have the same rights as humans UWpLtOjGdko-01170-00255750-00256064 well and they said that that was X UWpLtOjGdko-01171-00256065-00256338 percent more people than agreed with gay UWpLtOjGdko-01172-00256339-00256553 rights in the years leading up to the UWpLtOjGdko-01173-00256554-00256700 you know men of gay rights ended UWpLtOjGdko-01174-00256701-00256970 legislation and X percent more people UWpLtOjGdko-01175-00256971-00257234 than agreed with was it civil rights UWpLtOjGdko-01176-00257235-00257429 think so in the late years leading up to UWpLtOjGdko-01177-00257430-00257675 civil rights being enacted so if we UWpLtOjGdko-01178-00257676-00257909 looked at that we'd say wow okay UWpLtOjGdko-01179-00257910-00258104 people already have a connection with UWpLtOjGdko-01180-00258105-00258288 animals through their companion animals UWpLtOjGdko-01181-00258289-00258509 and so maybe yeah it is possible the UWpLtOjGdko-01182-00258510-00258647 only thing new there isn't as we thought UWpLtOjGdko-01183-00258648-00258965 recently sorry to be down here well I UWpLtOjGdko-01184-00258966-00259253 thought I think when they took that poll UWpLtOjGdko-01185-00259254-00259418 I think people were referring to their UWpLtOjGdko-01186-00259419-00259563 companion animals yeah they would be UWpLtOjGdko-01187-00259564-00259883 thinking yes my cat or my dog definitely UWpLtOjGdko-01188-00259884-00260123 deserves the same rights as I do I don't UWpLtOjGdko-01189-00260124-00260243 actually think they're thinking about UWpLtOjGdko-01190-00260244-00260483 the animals that we eat because when UWpLtOjGdko-01191-00260484-00260717 they look at the meat and list and the UWpLtOjGdko-01192-00260718-00260951 cheese and the milk and the eggs I don't UWpLtOjGdko-01193-00260952-00261134 think they're seeing animals they're UWpLtOjGdko-01194-00261135-00261305 just seeing products so I don't think UWpLtOjGdko-01195-00261306-00261503 they're thinking the chicken deserves UWpLtOjGdko-01196-00261504-00261632 the same rights as a human I think UWpLtOjGdko-01197-00261633-00261845 they're thinking the dog deserves the UWpLtOjGdko-01198-00261846-00262031 same rights of security so I'm skeptical UWpLtOjGdko-01199-00262032-00262289 of that poll and I think this is the the UWpLtOjGdko-01200-00262290-00262451 biggest boundary is that it is a UWpLtOjGdko-01201-00262452-00262587 different species that we're dealing UWpLtOjGdko-01202-00262588-00262808 with yeah so free trying to cross this UWpLtOjGdko-01203-00262809-00263018 dc's barrier yeah yeah of this social UWpLtOjGdko-01204-00263019-00263171 justice issue and so it is the biggest UWpLtOjGdko-01205-00263172-00263399 challenge we face where we may would be UWpLtOjGdko-01206-00263400-00263600 able to leverage here is with the UWpLtOjGdko-01207-00263601-00263834 climate crisis and extinction rebellion UWpLtOjGdko-01208-00263835-00264059 so for example if we can get people to UWpLtOjGdko-01209-00264060-00264335 understand survival that we can't solve UWpLtOjGdko-01210-00264336-00264548 the climate emergency without addressing UWpLtOjGdko-01211-00264549-00264728 the animal emergency which is causing UWpLtOjGdko-01212-00264729-00265220 the climate emergency basically like the UWpLtOjGdko-01213-00265221-00265529 thing that gets us is as a vegan okay UWpLtOjGdko-01214-00265530-00265661 you're not participating in the UWpLtOjGdko-01215-00265662-00265877 exploitation and the violence awesome UWpLtOjGdko-01216-00265878-00266090 you've stepped back from that yeah the UWpLtOjGdko-01217-00266091-00266330 thing is you can actually continue your UWpLtOjGdko-01218-00266331-00266705 life virtually unchanged until UWpLtOjGdko-01219-00266706-00266879 unaffected and your civil liberties UWpLtOjGdko-01220-00266880-00267020 aren't at risk UWpLtOjGdko-01221-00267021-00267281 yeah like until the the climate totally UWpLtOjGdko-01222-00267282-00267413 collapses and we can't breathe and we UWpLtOjGdko-01223-00267414-00267551 don't have water to drink until that's UWpLtOjGdko-01224-00267552-00267767 tight yeah right now you can still get UWpLtOjGdko-01225-00267768-00267920 on a bus and sit wherever you want you UWpLtOjGdko-01226-00267921-00268082 can still vote as a woman as a vegan UWpLtOjGdko-01227-00268083-00268283 obviously you can still marry whoever UWpLtOjGdko-01228-00268284-00268544 you want you can have a job you can have UWpLtOjGdko-01229-00268545-00268946 equal pay etc so what happens right now UWpLtOjGdko-01230-00268947-00269294 to a chicken in a cage has no effect on UWpLtOjGdko-01231-00269295-00269636 your day to day actions even as a vegan UWpLtOjGdko-01232-00269637-00269912 so therefore we get very comfortable we UWpLtOjGdko-01233-00269913-00270059 just sit back and we say hey I'm vegan UWpLtOjGdko-01234-00270060-00270239 everything's cool I've done my part UWpLtOjGdko-01235-00270240-00270467 someone else is doing the activism out UWpLtOjGdko-01236-00270468-00270641 there Joey's busting his Gus and sorry UWpLtOjGdko-01237-00270642-00270893 Luca being dragged up by their next alex UWpLtOjGdko-01238-00270894-00271205 is still going in 885 ah I can just sit UWpLtOjGdko-01239-00271206-00271367 back and have my vegan Fergus because UWpLtOjGdko-01240-00271368-00271736 hey it's all good now that's unlike any UWpLtOjGdko-01241-00271737-00271931 other social justice movement if you are UWpLtOjGdko-01242-00271932-00272063 a woman and you couldn't vote and you UWpLtOjGdko-01243-00272064-00272204 can get a job and you couldn't have all UWpLtOjGdko-01244-00272205-00272372 these other rights that men have that UWpLtOjGdko-01245-00272373-00272606 affects you which motivates you to get UWpLtOjGdko-01246-00272607-00272804 on this trend to become an activist so UWpLtOjGdko-01247-00272805-00272969 what's the motivation for these vegans UWpLtOjGdko-01248-00272970-00273146 to become activists if everything's UWpLtOjGdko-01249-00273147-00273335 super cushy because hey you can get UWpLtOjGdko-01250-00273336-00273578 vegan KFC now and you can get a burger UWpLtOjGdko-01251-00273579-00273941 at Mary King and McDonald's and UWpLtOjGdko-01252-00273942-00274142 everywhere else so what's the motivation UWpLtOjGdko-01253-00274143-00274388 that's the problem and that's where we UWpLtOjGdko-01254-00274389-00274628 have to start thinking about the victims UWpLtOjGdko-01255-00274629-00274844 it's not us it's not about making life UWpLtOjGdko-01256-00274845-00275045 more easy for vegans by having more UWpLtOjGdko-01257-00275046-00275258 vegan options it's about the animal UWpLtOjGdko-01258-00275259-00275525 victims and until we focus on them we UWpLtOjGdko-01259-00275526-00275723 have absolutely no chance or hope of UWpLtOjGdko-01260-00275724-00275981 stopping this Holocaust yes the animal UWpLtOjGdko-01261-00275982-00276149 Holocaust yes we have no chance of UWpLtOjGdko-01262-00276150-00276188 stopping UWpLtOjGdko-01263-00276189-00276437 what's going on yeah the issue is though UWpLtOjGdko-01264-00276438-00276653 intrinsically I think as human beings UWpLtOjGdko-01265-00276654-00276842 we're more selfish than altruistic we UWpLtOjGdko-01266-00276843-00277028 have the capacity for altruism but I UWpLtOjGdko-01267-00277029-00277244 think our selfish side shines through a UWpLtOjGdko-01268-00277245-00277445 little more strongly so I think it's UWpLtOjGdko-01269-00277446-00277628 going to be leveraging off the climate UWpLtOjGdko-01270-00277629-00277838 emergency that's going to get us there UWpLtOjGdko-01271-00277839-00278162 faster than waiting for change in morals UWpLtOjGdko-01272-00278163-00278375 or ethics or altruism and so this is I UWpLtOjGdko-01273-00278376-00278471 don't know have you looked into UWpLtOjGdko-01274-00278472-00278654 extinction rebellion and animal UWpLtOjGdko-01275-00278655-00278888 rebellion at all have you not not really UWpLtOjGdko-01276-00278889-00279161 I mean I heard a couple of their UWpLtOjGdko-01277-00279162-00279320 speeches at the March but I'm really not UWpLtOjGdko-01278-00279321-00279512 familiar with extinction rebellion and UWpLtOjGdko-01279-00279513-00279671 their actions they I mean I know they UWpLtOjGdko-01280-00279672-00279923 were taping themselves to trains and UWpLtOjGdko-01281-00279924-00280357 bridges and getting arrested so yeah UWpLtOjGdko-01282-00280358-00280610 more specifically like because we're UWpLtOjGdko-01283-00280611-00280757 joining the animal rebellion we've been UWpLtOjGdko-01284-00280758-00280961 posting about it on on social media and UWpLtOjGdko-01285-00280962-00281264 we had a lot of skeptical vegans say are UWpLtOjGdko-01286-00281265-00281363 you guys sure do you know what you're UWpLtOjGdko-01287-00281364-00281672 getting into yes you know there are you UWpLtOjGdko-01288-00281673-00281846 know there are issues that a lot of UWpLtOjGdko-01289-00281847-00282110 vegans don't seem to look into too much UWpLtOjGdko-01290-00282111-00282326 and they don't understand and maybe that UWpLtOjGdko-01291-00282327-00282479 was a bit of a fault of animal rebellion UWpLtOjGdko-01292-00282480-00282578 not being very clear in their UWpLtOjGdko-01293-00282579-00282728 communication which they've since UWpLtOjGdko-01294-00282729-00282902 rectified which is fantastic there's a UWpLtOjGdko-01295-00282903-00283091 some great articles that they've put out UWpLtOjGdko-01296-00283092-00283163 recently UWpLtOjGdko-01297-00283164-00283556 but basically animal rebellion is a non UWpLtOjGdko-01298-00283557-00283862 speech Syst abolitionist group anti UWpLtOjGdko-01299-00283863-00284456 speciesist yeah yeah the thing is as UWpLtOjGdko-01300-00284457-00284606 Luka was saying we kind of have to UWpLtOjGdko-01301-00284607-00284882 leverage off the environmental UWpLtOjGdko-01302-00284883-00285179 destruction and and absolute processing UWpLtOjGdko-01303-00285180-00285356 you know the what what we're facing UWpLtOjGdko-01304-00285357-00285563 right now we have to leverage off that UWpLtOjGdko-01305-00285564-00285842 in order to get what we want for animals UWpLtOjGdko-01306-00285843-00286070 yeah because if people don't care about UWpLtOjGdko-01307-00286071-00286238 animals and let's face it the majority UWpLtOjGdko-01308-00286239-00286394 don't even after see if they see the UWpLtOjGdko-01309-00286395-00286568 footage I still don't want to change UWpLtOjGdko-01310-00286569-00286760 what do they care about well maybe UWpLtOjGdko-01311-00286761-00286886 they'll care about the fact that we UWpLtOjGdko-01312-00286887-00287021 won't have water and won't have clean UWpLtOjGdko-01313-00287022-00287156 air and we won't be able to survive yes UWpLtOjGdko-01314-00287157-00287492 planet so if we can leverage off that to UWpLtOjGdko-01315-00287493-00287723 then get what we want for animals hey UWpLtOjGdko-01316-00287724-00287816 let's do that UWpLtOjGdko-01317-00287817-00288023 I'm completely down for and it's almost UWpLtOjGdko-01318-00288024-00288299 like that selfish intrinsic selfishness UWpLtOjGdko-01319-00288300-00288551 it's almost like like built-in survival UWpLtOjGdko-01320-00288552-00288737 mechanism that here being so you have to UWpLtOjGdko-01321-00288738-00288998 have that for your family too you know UWpLtOjGdko-01322-00288999-00289229 it's all survival so that's why this UWpLtOjGdko-01323-00289230-00289403 environment thing is all to do with a UWpLtOjGdko-01324-00289404-00289568 your survival is at stake now you've got UWpLtOjGdko-01325-00289569-00289735 act and that could be the same dynamic UWpLtOjGdko-01326-00289736-00289906 used if you're you know similar to what UWpLtOjGdko-01327-00289907-00290096 when people's rights are taken away as UWpLtOjGdko-01328-00290097-00290291 that survival thing they're fighting for UWpLtOjGdko-01329-00290292-00290528 so I'm fully down for that UWpLtOjGdko-01330-00290529-00290648 I'm fully down for that as long as the UWpLtOjGdko-01331-00290649-00290789 victims aren't lost in their rhetoric UWpLtOjGdko-01332-00290790-00290939 that's the thing like it's you know UWpLtOjGdko-01333-00290940-00291146 animal rights an animal liberation is UWpLtOjGdko-01334-00291147-00291347 about animals it's not about veganism is UWpLtOjGdko-01335-00291348-00291476 not about the environment it's not about UWpLtOjGdko-01336-00291477-00291647 health it's about the animals yeah but UWpLtOjGdko-01337-00291648-00291832 if we can use the environment to get UWpLtOjGdko-01338-00291833-00292088 what we need for animals okay let's do UWpLtOjGdko-01339-00292089-00292265 it you know for getting the end goal UWpLtOjGdko-01340-00292266-00292499 that we all want then use whatever path UWpLtOjGdko-01341-00292500-00292688 is available to us that's going to work UWpLtOjGdko-01342-00292689-00292862 best you and me and the environment UWpLtOjGdko-01343-00292863-00293027 matters because of the sentient life the UWpLtOjGdko-01344-00293028-00293257 environment supports example tasks UWpLtOjGdko-01345-00293258-00293504 that's the animals so you know it kind UWpLtOjGdko-01346-00293505-00293731 of it kind of is linked to the animals UWpLtOjGdko-01347-00293732-00293987 sort of by virtue of you know survival UWpLtOjGdko-01348-00293988-00294341 too so yeah let's let's give it give me UWpLtOjGdko-01349-00294342-00294791 a little overview of where you think the UWpLtOjGdko-01350-00294792-00294931 animal rights movement is heading and UWpLtOjGdko-01351-00294932-00295175 where you'll personally feel like you UWpLtOjGdko-01352-00295176-00295630 guys are heading well I think what's UWpLtOjGdko-01353-00295631-00295964 gonna happen on September sorry the 7th UWpLtOjGdko-01354-00295965-00296300 of October in London in Berlin in New UWpLtOjGdko-01355-00296301-00296474 York I think I think there's one in UWpLtOjGdko-01356-00296475-00296768 Australia as well seeing what's gonna UWpLtOjGdko-01357-00296769-00296954 happen with the animal rebellion around UWpLtOjGdko-01358-00296955-00297371 that yeah we'll definitely set the UWpLtOjGdko-01359-00297372-00297685 course if you like ok for the next stage UWpLtOjGdko-01360-00297686-00298067 is what we think yeah I think yeah UWpLtOjGdko-01361-00298068-00298262 extinction rebellion really set the the UWpLtOjGdko-01362-00298263-00298523 benchmark showed the example of how much UWpLtOjGdko-01363-00298524-00298732 attention we can get and how much we can UWpLtOjGdko-01364-00298733-00299054 push a movement forward through doing UWpLtOjGdko-01365-00299055-00299297 this type of creative engaging sustained UWpLtOjGdko-01366-00299298-00299618 nonviolent direct action yeah and we see UWpLtOjGdko-01367-00299619-00299813 ourselves heavily being involved in that UWpLtOjGdko-01368-00299814-00300184 in the future because you know as we UWpLtOjGdko-01369-00300185-00300368 said at the beginning of this show we've UWpLtOjGdko-01370-00300369-00300620 done a lot and we're kind of feeling UWpLtOjGdko-01371-00300621-00300848 drawn towards this we're seeing the best UWpLtOjGdko-01372-00300849-00300989 results and the more we educate UWpLtOjGdko-01373-00300990-00301238 ourselves about this topic we see that UWpLtOjGdko-01374-00301239-00301448 yeah sure everything else is needed but UWpLtOjGdko-01375-00301449-00301606 this is ultimately what's going to do it UWpLtOjGdko-01376-00301607-00301763 and we're kind of getting a little tired UWpLtOjGdko-01377-00301764-00301988 yeah we've won an end to this yeah so UWpLtOjGdko-01378-00301989-00302155 we're kind of wanting to do what what we UWpLtOjGdko-01379-00302156-00302308 see is going to be the most effective UWpLtOjGdko-01380-00302309-00302621 and most the most impactful way of UWpLtOjGdko-01381-00302622-00302792 creating this this change that's needed UWpLtOjGdko-01382-00302793-00302877 so we can UWpLtOjGdko-01383-00302878-00303114 be done yeah you know what do you think UWpLtOjGdko-01384-00303115-00303288 I think you've said it very well yeah UWpLtOjGdko-01385-00303289-00303582 your frustration and I have at most UWpLtOjGdko-01386-00303583-00303795 respect for you both to be such fighters UWpLtOjGdko-01387-00303796-00303945 but not come from a fighting background UWpLtOjGdko-01388-00303946-00304248 so I really would do respect that and I UWpLtOjGdko-01389-00304249-00304575 just wanted to say send my gratitude to UWpLtOjGdko-01390-00304576-00304752 you two guys because I don't know many UWpLtOjGdko-01391-00304753-00305007 people know but like when I first got UWpLtOjGdko-01392-00305008-00305184 online I was this like straight out of UWpLtOjGdko-01393-00305185-00305349 gang so I was actually I actually spoke UWpLtOjGdko-01394-00305350-00305574 a lot differently to like if this F and UWpLtOjGdko-01395-00305575-00305787 C there soon you know I had to tell my UWpLtOjGdko-01396-00305788-00305961 story of surviving the you know that UWpLtOjGdko-01397-00305962-00306114 world and surviving addiction and UWpLtOjGdko-01398-00306115-00306381 surviving suicide attempts and all of UWpLtOjGdko-01399-00306382-00306534 this and you guys gave me a massive UWpLtOjGdko-01400-00306535-00306762 shout out on your channel and I was I UWpLtOjGdko-01401-00306763-00306945 woke up to her and I was tearing out of UWpLtOjGdko-01402-00306946-00307176 my eyes and I was so grateful and I just UWpLtOjGdko-01403-00307177-00307329 wanted to express my gratitude to you UWpLtOjGdko-01404-00307330-00307512 too because that was about three years UWpLtOjGdko-01405-00307513-00307803 ago now I think so and and I have you UWpLtOjGdko-01406-00307804-00307998 know managed to you know make my way to UWpLtOjGdko-01407-00307999-00308157 the forefront of the movement through my UWpLtOjGdko-01408-00308158-00308373 advocacy and I just wanted to pay homage UWpLtOjGdko-01409-00308374-00308577 to you too because you guys have you UWpLtOjGdko-01410-00308578-00308754 know you work online a year before me UWpLtOjGdko-01411-00308755-00308961 and you you really gave me this shout UWpLtOjGdko-01412-00308962-00309252 out that sort of went before anyone was UWpLtOjGdko-01413-00309253-00309441 sort of respecting my work and you guys UWpLtOjGdko-01414-00309442-00309633 acknowledge my work back then so thank UWpLtOjGdko-01415-00309634-00309939 you too and I love you both yeah thank UWpLtOjGdko-01416-00309940-00310137 you so much it's the least we can do we UWpLtOjGdko-01417-00310138-00310380 saw what was an incredible personal UWpLtOjGdko-01418-00310381-00310620 revolution that we admired and were UWpLtOjGdko-01419-00310621-00310833 inspired by and we knew could inspire UWpLtOjGdko-01420-00310834-00311052 countless others and has gone on to in UWpLtOjGdko-01421-00311053-00311286 fact inspire countless others and we UWpLtOjGdko-01422-00311287-00311583 thank you for your tireless work for the UWpLtOjGdko-01423-00311584-00311838 animals and it's beautiful thing to be a UWpLtOjGdko-01424-00311839-00312021 comrade in this movement when somebody UWpLtOjGdko-01425-00312022-00312210 like yourself so thank you one of the UWpLtOjGdko-01426-00312211-00312330 things we're here when we're traveling UWpLtOjGdko-01427-00312331-00312573 around is why does so many activists UWpLtOjGdko-01428-00312574-00312795 come out of Australia know what's going UWpLtOjGdko-01429-00312796-00313076 on there what's in the water it's um UWpLtOjGdko-01430-00313077-00313302 yeah I don't know if it's a cultural UWpLtOjGdko-01431-00313303-00313473 thing I often say it's just a cultural UWpLtOjGdko-01432-00313474-00313608 thing oh my gosh look at you tearing up UWpLtOjGdko-01433-00313609-00313698 sweetheart UWpLtOjGdko-01434-00313699-00313902 it's something I don't know but uh it's UWpLtOjGdko-01435-00313903-00314055 beautiful to share this with you and UWpLtOjGdko-01436-00314056-00314316 with the other look Ozzy activists yeah UWpLtOjGdko-01437-00314317-00314556 and I think we've got this and we can do UWpLtOjGdko-01438-00314557-00314757 this I don't do to you guys and you know UWpLtOjGdko-01439-00314758-00314946 we'll keep fighting either way but I UWpLtOjGdko-01440-00314947-00315399 really do have a lot of optimism and I UWpLtOjGdko-01441-00315400-00315609 do think that this is inevitable it's UWpLtOjGdko-01442-00315610-00315759 just a matter of time and when in a UWpLtOjGdko-01443-00315760-00315906 matter of and a matter of when everyone UWpLtOjGdko-01444-00315907-00316218 joins us so I see you as the Morpheus UWpLtOjGdko-01445-00316219-00316472 the animal rights movement the UWpLtOjGdko-01446-00316473-00316833 unwavering belief in the prophecy we can UWpLtOjGdko-01447-00316834-00317082 achieve animal rights it's simple I mean UWpLtOjGdko-01448-00317083-00317415 to our belief that it's possible is huge UWpLtOjGdko-01449-00317416-00317706 I believe I do honestly like from what UWpLtOjGdko-01450-00317707-00317952 you focus on grows and I believe we have UWpLtOjGdko-01451-00317953-00318147 a movement full of doubters that will UWpLtOjGdko-01452-00318148-00318318 manifest and then will suck our UWpLtOjGdko-01453-00318319-00318567 motivation and so I think that we need UWpLtOjGdko-01454-00318568-00318771 to have that belief and keep you know UWpLtOjGdko-01455-00318772-00318987 inspiring others and saying look this is UWpLtOjGdko-01456-00318988-00319182 possible this is inevitable it always UWpLtOjGdko-01457-00319183-00319344 has been you know justice always UWpLtOjGdko-01458-00319345-00319626 prevails hmm as Martin Luther King jr. UWpLtOjGdko-01459-00319627-00319827 said the moral arc of the universe is UWpLtOjGdko-01460-00319828-00320025 long but it bends towards justice UWpLtOjGdko-01461-00320026-00320313 amazing amazing well thank you both for UWpLtOjGdko-01462-00320314-00320484 joining me for this and I'm super UWpLtOjGdko-01463-00320485-00320658 excited to do this with you guys and I'm UWpLtOjGdko-01464-00320659-00320829 out most respect for all of your work UWpLtOjGdko-01465-00320830-00321018 and keep fighting keep going and never UWpLtOjGdko-01466-00321019-00321066 give up UWpLtOjGdko-01467-00321067-00321321 thank you may you two right don't catch UWpLtOjGdko-01468-00321322-00321940 okay thank you thanks John thank you UWpLtOjGdko-01469-00321941-00322500 [Music] UWpLtOjGdko-01470-00322501-00322846 absolutely amazing users well UWpLtOjGdko-01471-00322847-00323344 you guys you're on toward the director UWPEru80yoc-00000-00000003-00000463 from Las Vegas it's the cube covering UWPEru80yoc-00001-00000465-00000712 IBM think 2018 UWPEru80yoc-00002-00000713-00001229 brought to you by IBM welcome back to UWPEru80yoc-00003-00001230-00001453 the cube we are live in sunny Las Vegas UWPEru80yoc-00004-00001454-00001763 at the inaugural IBM think 2018 event UWPEru80yoc-00005-00001764-00001942 I'm Lisa Martin with Dave Volante Dave UWPEru80yoc-00006-00001943-00002225 this weather has got to be Boston hands UWPEru80yoc-00007-00002226-00002401 down right wow it's beautiful yesterday UWPEru80yoc-00008-00002402-00002582 about 15 degrees in Boston UWPEru80yoc-00009-00002583-00002792 snowy so you thought out since your gun UWPEru80yoc-00010-00002793-00002983 here took the snow shoes out actually UWPEru80yoc-00011-00002984-00003344 life makes lemons exactly and we have UWPEru80yoc-00012-00003345-00003472 another cold weather guest who's UWPEru80yoc-00013-00003473-00003620 probably thawing out as well Ranjan a UWPEru80yoc-00014-00003621-00003803 young the senior vice president of UWPEru80yoc-00015-00003804-00003970 enterprise data services from Northern UWPEru80yoc-00016-00003971-00004160 Trust welcome thank you thanks for UWPEru80yoc-00017-00004161-00004226 having me UWPEru80yoc-00018-00004227-00004429 we're excited to chat with you you have UWPEru80yoc-00019-00004430-00004670 a role at Northern Trust and your UWPEru80yoc-00020-00004671-00004922 mission is all around data five core UWPEru80yoc-00021-00004923-00005069 competencies including data governance UWPEru80yoc-00022-00005070-00005368 and stewardship data quality master data UWPEru80yoc-00023-00005369-00005567 management enterprise integration with UWPEru80yoc-00024-00005568-00005726 data platforms tell us a little bit UWPEru80yoc-00025-00005727-00005900 about your role how long you've been UWPEru80yoc-00026-00005901-00006149 doing that and really what this focus on UWPEru80yoc-00027-00006150-00006488 data is enabling for Northern Trust sure UWPEru80yoc-00028-00006489-00006716 I want to talk first about our mission UWPEru80yoc-00029-00006717-00006914 as as you had mentioned I think it was UWPEru80yoc-00030-00006915-00007312 critical to establish a broad mission UWPEru80yoc-00031-00007313-00007619 for Northern Trust we we wanted to make UWPEru80yoc-00032-00007620-00007862 sure that we establishing an enterprise UWPEru80yoc-00033-00007863-00008299 data program that enabled and and our UWPEru80yoc-00034-00008300-00008596 customer needs and overall our customer UWPEru80yoc-00035-00008597-00008969 experience but also truly you know help UWPEru80yoc-00036-00008970-00009210 support a regulatory needs that we had UWPEru80yoc-00037-00009211-00009476 and it was critical to establish those UWPEru80yoc-00038-00009477-00009721 two as the main goals not just one or UWPEru80yoc-00039-00009722-00009862 the UWPEru80yoc-00040-00009863-00010141 and then the role you know I I call UWPEru80yoc-00041-00010142-00010380 myself a change agent because UWPEru80yoc-00042-00010381-00010633 establishing capabilities that you UWPEru80yoc-00043-00010634-00010863 talked about it's it is difficult to do UWPEru80yoc-00044-00010864-00011095 and you know but with a lot of legacy UWPEru80yoc-00045-00011096-00011310 that we have the firm has been in UWPEru80yoc-00046-00011311-00011656 existence for 228 years there's to UWPEru80yoc-00047-00011657-00011916 establish a data-driven culture was very UWPEru80yoc-00048-00011917-00012046 different I mean I think we've been UWPEru80yoc-00049-00012047-00012435 known to to you know do really good you UWPEru80yoc-00050-00012436-00012660 know provide good business solutions but UWPEru80yoc-00051-00012661-00012996 large with the gut given that we were UWPEru80yoc-00052-00012997-00013216 good at it but how do you make sure that UWPEru80yoc-00053-00013216-00013494 you change that culture and have you UWPEru80yoc-00054-00013495-00013630 know our relationship managers and UWPEru80yoc-00055-00013631-00013837 others really think differently and use UWPEru80yoc-00056-00013838-00014302 data to provide those I remember when I UWPEru80yoc-00057-00014303-00014596 met in DePaul Bhandari sure you know him UWPEru80yoc-00058-00014597-00014818 and and he said that he has a framework UWPEru80yoc-00059-00014819-00015052 for a data leader and he said there are UWPEru80yoc-00060-00015053-00015369 five things a data leader has to do to UWPEru80yoc-00061-00015370-00015522 get started and these three are in UWPEru80yoc-00062-00015523-00015747 parallel or sorry three or linear - or UWPEru80yoc-00063-00015748-00015943 in parallel if you've heard this rapid UWPEru80yoc-00064-00015944-00016155 I'd like to sort of explore them and see UWPEru80yoc-00065-00016156-00016294 how you're three years younger he said UWPEru80yoc-00066-00016294-00016474 you start with understanding how the UWPEru80yoc-00067-00016475-00016888 organization monetizes data not directly UWPEru80yoc-00068-00016889-00017050 you may be selling data but how it UWPEru80yoc-00069-00017051-00017272 contributes and then the next one was UWPEru80yoc-00070-00017273-00017400 sort of data access and then data UWPEru80yoc-00071-00017401-00017669 quality those are the sort of sequential UWPEru80yoc-00072-00017670-00017934 activities and then the parallel ones UWPEru80yoc-00073-00017935-00018172 were form relationships with the line of UWPEru80yoc-00074-00018173-00018519 business and then Reese kill so those UWPEru80yoc-00075-00018520-00018802 are his five how did you approach it UWPEru80yoc-00076-00018803-00018916 what was different what we're similar UWPEru80yoc-00077-00018917-00019119 what was some of the challenges that you UWPEru80yoc-00078-00019120-00019477 had sure if you if I had to think about UWPEru80yoc-00079-00019478-00019809 kind of to correlate some of the UWPEru80yoc-00080-00019810-00020178 components of strategy skills is an UWPEru80yoc-00081-00020179-00020533 important and important thing we when I UWPEru80yoc-00082-00020534-00020788 started establishing the team UWPEru80yoc-00083-00020789-00021016 three years ago it was critical that you UWPEru80yoc-00084-00021017-00021355 had to bring some of the core skills UWPEru80yoc-00085-00021356-00021547 within the firm because they had the UWPEru80yoc-00086-00021548-00021733 business capabilities they understood UWPEru80yoc-00087-00021734-00021994 the systems they understood kind of UWPEru80yoc-00088-00021995-00022282 skeletons that were there in the toilets UWPEru80yoc-00089-00022283-00022561 and we knew and knew the culture and UWPEru80yoc-00090-00022562-00022879 also embraced the challenges and still UWPEru80yoc-00091-00022880-00023164 could find solutions and then you had to UWPEru80yoc-00092-00023165-00023512 bring external folks that really had the UWPEru80yoc-00093-00023513-00023761 capability to drive that change had you UWPEru80yoc-00094-00023762-00023902 know had the master data management UWPEru80yoc-00095-00023903-00024175 skills to really support and set up an UWPEru80yoc-00096-00024176-00024494 account domain and you know party domain UWPEru80yoc-00097-00024495-00024721 reference data domain especially an UWPEru80yoc-00098-00024722-00025006 asset domain etc so we had we had to UWPEru80yoc-00099-00025007-00025186 look at kind of a conglomerate of UWPEru80yoc-00100-00025187-00025402 individuals to do that UWPEru80yoc-00101-00025403-00025683 and then if you look at kind of where UWPEru80yoc-00102-00025685-00025890 was the starting point in terms of UWPEru80yoc-00103-00025891-00026289 really establishing the program was we UWPEru80yoc-00104-00026291-00026479 had to you know we had a we were going UWPEru80yoc-00105-00026480-00026722 through a transformation to really read UWPEru80yoc-00106-00026723-00027031 platform a lot of our legacy whether it UWPEru80yoc-00107-00027032-00027264 was our valuation system or our cache UWPEru80yoc-00108-00027266-00027540 platform others and data was a thread UWPEru80yoc-00109-00027541-00027811 throughout throughout all of those UWPEru80yoc-00110-00027812-00028158 programs so it was critical to establish UWPEru80yoc-00111-00028160-00028462 and think and take bite-sized chunks so UWPEru80yoc-00112-00028463-00028723 it was important to think about okay you UWPEru80yoc-00113-00028724-00028927 know throughout all the programs what is UWPEru80yoc-00114-00028927-00029145 the important data that we could we UWPEru80yoc-00115-00029147-00029332 could kind of understand so we we UWPEru80yoc-00116-00029333-00029640 focused quite a bit on initially looking UWPEru80yoc-00117-00029641-00029848 at critical data and looking at critical UWPEru80yoc-00118-00029849-00030064 data from a master data perspective so UWPEru80yoc-00119-00030064-00030310 acid data which is very critical to the UWPEru80yoc-00120-00030311-00030454 work that we do on the institutional UWPEru80yoc-00121-00030455-00030676 side as you know we had an asset UWPEru80yoc-00122-00030677-00030970 management asset servicing company data UWPEru80yoc-00123-00030970-00031198 is an asset for us B's you know we UWPEru80yoc-00124-00031199-00031593 enrich the data we provide services UWPEru80yoc-00125-00031594-00031736 around UWPEru80yoc-00126-00031737-00032099 today and have been and so embedding UWPEru80yoc-00127-00032100-00032462 data governance through that process was UWPEru80yoc-00128-00032463-00032812 important and also our clients were UWPEru80yoc-00129-00032813-00032987 really looking for the enrich data but UWPEru80yoc-00130-00032988-00033302 also we're looking for clean information UWPEru80yoc-00131-00033303-00033575 but also we're looking for you know UWPEru80yoc-00132-00033576-00033776 where did that data come from how are UWPEru80yoc-00133-00033777-00033830 you UWPEru80yoc-00134-00033831-00034015 how have you how have you actually what UWPEru80yoc-00135-00034016-00034253 is the definition of this data so kind UWPEru80yoc-00136-00034254-00034462 of giving them that external catalog of UWPEru80yoc-00137-00034463-00034673 here's the data but here's the enriched UWPEru80yoc-00138-00034674-00034934 data here's the metrics for for data UWPEru80yoc-00139-00034935-00035117 quality around it and then here's the UWPEru80yoc-00140-00035118-00035435 definitions for it so to some extent you UWPEru80yoc-00141-00035436-00035786 know that drove change because of UWPEru80yoc-00142-00035787-00035990 customers were looking for it and you UWPEru80yoc-00143-00035991-00036242 know a lot of the capabilities that were UWPEru80yoc-00144-00036243-00036470 foundational to the firm will move UWPEru80yoc-00145-00036471-00036710 starting to externalize especially the UWPEru80yoc-00146-00036711-00036937 metadata catalog so if I could play that UWPEru80yoc-00147-00036938-00037223 back so you started the team you said ok UWPEru80yoc-00148-00037224-00037436 I need to build a team that's what I UWPEru80yoc-00149-00037437-00037618 think I heard that and then the data UWPEru80yoc-00150-00037619-00037852 quality and then presumably okay who has UWPEru80yoc-00151-00037853-00038174 access to this data is that about right UWPEru80yoc-00152-00038175-00038519 I I started with the mission to say we UWPEru80yoc-00153-00038520-00038876 have to do this for both arms the left UWPEru80yoc-00154-00038877-00039119 arm being our customer experience and UWPEru80yoc-00155-00039120-00039389 making sure that we change the way we're UWPEru80yoc-00156-00039390-00039869 doing work that or enhanced work you UWPEru80yoc-00157-00039870-00040033 know the so that our customer experience UWPEru80yoc-00158-00040034-00040310 feels better and then you know obviously UWPEru80yoc-00159-00040311-00040529 the regulatory make sure that we need UWPEru80yoc-00160-00040530-00040850 the regulatory so for that I needed five UWPEru80yoc-00161-00040851-00041087 code we needed five core competencies we UWPEru80yoc-00162-00041088-00041276 knew that we had to establish a role of UWPEru80yoc-00163-00041277-00041573 a steward a role of the custodian a role UWPEru80yoc-00164-00041574-00041774 of that so the team started to become UWPEru80yoc-00165-00041775-00042137 very critical than and then we knew that UWPEru80yoc-00166-00042138-00042461 we had some gaps in our master date UWPEru80yoc-00167-00042462-00042793 management capability a complete gap and UWPEru80yoc-00168-00042794-00043096 having integrated data platform so I UWPEru80yoc-00169-00043097-00043229 noticed I've talked a little bit about UWPEru80yoc-00170-00043230-00043532 how he established a whole strategy and UWPEru80yoc-00171-00043533-00043896 architecture for the for the for ing I UWPEru80yoc-00172-00043897-00044180 relate to to how we had to do that UWPEru80yoc-00173-00044181-00044456 that's the same we each silo did their UWPEru80yoc-00174-00044457-00044668 own particular thing of Management that UWPEru80yoc-00175-00044669-00044849 they're already the institutional side UWPEru80yoc-00176-00044850-00044999 that their own thing asked management UWPEru80yoc-00177-00045000-00045311 was a lot more I would say a lot more UWPEru80yoc-00178-00045312-00045590 mature so I would say if you think about UWPEru80yoc-00179-00045591-00045809 it it you know establishing the mission UWPEru80yoc-00180-00045810-00045992 in establishing the tool and then just UWPEru80yoc-00181-00045993-00046223 one last follow-up the services that UWPEru80yoc-00182-00046224-00046549 you're providing data services those are UWPEru80yoc-00183-00046550-00046787 delivered through your organization the UWPEru80yoc-00184-00046788-00047060 IT organization what's the problem we UWPEru80yoc-00185-00047061-00047300 have a partnership and very UWPEru80yoc-00186-00047301-00047480 collaborative partnership that we work UWPEru80yoc-00187-00047481-00047843 together the technology team does all UWPEru80yoc-00188-00047844-00048121 the build for the work we we work UWPEru80yoc-00189-00048122-00048277 collaboratively to kind of build the UWPEru80yoc-00190-00048278-00048521 strategy of what solutions need to be UWPEru80yoc-00191-00048522-00048854 first versus later given the client UWPEru80yoc-00192-00048855-00049124 priorities and our institutional site UWPEru80yoc-00193-00049125-00049382 our business unit priorities so that's UWPEru80yoc-00194-00049383-00049771 you know we as a collaborative effort so UWPEru80yoc-00195-00049772-00049921 speaking of collaboration you mentioned UWPEru80yoc-00196-00049922-00050065 earlier that it was really key to have UWPEru80yoc-00197-00050066-00050432 both the veterans with the Northern UWPEru80yoc-00198-00050433-00050639 Trust and their expertise that you said UWPEru80yoc-00199-00050640-00050774 becoming skeletons that they know where UWPEru80yoc-00200-00050775-00050962 things are buried as well as the may be UWPEru80yoc-00201-00050963-00051170 external you might see more fresh UWPEru80yoc-00202-00051171-00051517 perspective you also talked about each UWPEru80yoc-00203-00051519-00051779 other before we went on on life about UWPEru80yoc-00204-00051779-00052027 governance seems like what you guys have UWPEru80yoc-00205-00052028-00052183 done is kind of flipped governance from UWPEru80yoc-00206-00052184-00052366 and it's being viewed as potentially an UWPEru80yoc-00207-00052367-00052703 inhibitor to really empowering being and UWPEru80yoc-00208-00052704-00052949 empowering capability can you tell us UWPEru80yoc-00209-00052950-00053179 how you've leveraged data governance to UWPEru80yoc-00210-00053180-00053476 empower a data-driven culture within a UWPEru80yoc-00211-00053477-00053738 business that is 128 I think years old UWPEru80yoc-00212-00053739-00054062 you said that's right so for us I think UWPEru80yoc-00213-00054063-00054296 that while we've been establishing the UWPEru80yoc-00214-00054297-00054354 poll UWPEru80yoc-00215-00054354-00054657 it was very critical to understand kind UWPEru80yoc-00216-00054658-00054819 of the challenges on the institutional UWPEru80yoc-00217-00054820-00055100 side first because they were they had UWPEru80yoc-00218-00055101-00055260 the maximum number of challenges the UWPEru80yoc-00219-00055261-00055550 data as again you know because we're an UWPEru80yoc-00220-00055551-00055751 asset servicing company our data is an UWPEru80yoc-00221-00055752-00056037 asset we really enrich that information UWPEru80yoc-00222-00056038-00056225 and provide that information but what UWPEru80yoc-00223-00056226-00056501 was happening as it was taking us so UWPEru80yoc-00224-00056502-00056709 much longer to provide these solutions UWPEru80yoc-00225-00056710-00056957 that we were you know to to our clients UWPEru80yoc-00226-00056958-00057188 if you know so we've embedded now the UWPEru80yoc-00227-00057189-00057441 data governance framework as a part of UWPEru80yoc-00228-00057441-00057692 that solution you know and and and our UWPEru80yoc-00229-00057694-00057869 clients are seeing the value so if you UWPEru80yoc-00230-00057870-00058146 if you if you provide this you know if UWPEru80yoc-00231-00058147-00058325 if you look at one of the customers that UWPEru80yoc-00232-00058326-00058512 were working with we actually of UWPEru80yoc-00233-00058513-00058734 externalized are a catalog where they UWPEru80yoc-00234-00058735-00058901 understand now what data that they're UWPEru80yoc-00235-00058902-00059213 receiving and be you know it's you're UWPEru80yoc-00236-00059214-00059381 speaking the same language and that was UWPEru80yoc-00237-00059382-00059750 not the case before but again as I said UWPEru80yoc-00238-00059751-00059979 it you know if we didn't do the UWPEru80yoc-00239-00059979-00060186 foundational work of cataloging the UWPEru80yoc-00240-00060187-00060348 information understanding what the data UWPEru80yoc-00241-00060349-00060632 is where the data is how what the data UWPEru80yoc-00242-00060633-00060894 assets are we just couldn't have done it UWPEru80yoc-00243-00060895-00061035 couldn't have done that so it's really UWPEru80yoc-00244-00061036-00061341 paying off because how has that affected UWPEru80yoc-00245-00061341-00061538 your ability to be prepared for gdpr UWPEru80yoc-00246-00061539-00061742 wajib era obviously went into effect UWPEru80yoc-00247-00061744-00061929 last year their fines go into effect in UWPEru80yoc-00248-00061929-00062196 May of this year what was their UWPEru80yoc-00249-00062197-00062369 relationship there so we worked very UWPEru80yoc-00250-00062370-00062541 very closely with our chief privacy UWPEru80yoc-00251-00062541-00062855 officer and and we've really done a UWPEru80yoc-00252-00062857-00063060 phenomenal job of finding identifying UWPEru80yoc-00253-00063061-00063276 where are highly sensitive data assets UWPEru80yoc-00254-00063277-00063482 are with cattle you know in the process UWPEru80yoc-00255-00063483-00063759 of cataloging all of them through the UWPEru80yoc-00256-00063760-00063956 date unified governance framework that UWPEru80yoc-00257-00063957-00064226 we've established so we leverage IBM's UWPEru80yoc-00258-00064227-00064580 AGC and ia to do to all that work so and UWPEru80yoc-00259-00064582-00064751 and the lineage all the way to the UWPEru80yoc-00260-00064752-00064974 authentic source which is something the UWPEru80yoc-00261-00064975-00065241 regulator's definitely are looking for UWPEru80yoc-00262-00065241-00065588 so are we fully completely done yet UWPEru80yoc-00263-00065589-00065798 we're in that journey and and we you UWPEru80yoc-00264-00065799-00065918 know and in the ton structured data UWPEru80yoc-00265-00065919-00066110 we've we're looking at discovery tools UWPEru80yoc-00266-00066111-00066374 to kind of provide that B we have a UWPEru80yoc-00267-00066375-00066601 solution that's a little manual at this UWPEru80yoc-00268-00066602-00066797 point but we you know hope to kind of UWPEru80yoc-00269-00066798-00067142 make more more progress on that I can I UWPEru80yoc-00270-00067143-00067400 ask you so around seventeen percent of UWPEru80yoc-00271-00067401-00067657 the data suggests 70% of the ite UWPEru80yoc-00272-00067658-00067946 technology industry is women when I was UWPEru80yoc-00273-00067947-00068240 at IBM who's a data divas breakfast that UWPEru80yoc-00274-00068241-00068468 I crashed I snuck in one of the few guys UWPEru80yoc-00275-00068469-00068684 there and and there was a stat that UWPEru80yoc-00276-00068685-00068969 around 30 percent of data leaders are UWPEru80yoc-00277-00068970-00069181 women I don't know it was a sort of a UWPEru80yoc-00278-00069182-00069353 small sample who knows it sound a little UWPEru80yoc-00279-00069354-00069512 high somebody said it's because it's a UWPEru80yoc-00280-00069513-00069700 thankless job and women have to take it UWPEru80yoc-00281-00069701-00070136 off so thoughts you know women in tech UWPEru80yoc-00282-00070137-00070541 women in this role so I'm excited to see UWPEru80yoc-00283-00070542-00070813 you know meet a few here at the UWPEru80yoc-00284-00070814-00071210 conference that statistic is is pretty UWPEru80yoc-00285-00071211-00071457 high that you stating I don't see that UWPEru80yoc-00286-00071458-00071781 in the industry I do find myself UWPEru80yoc-00287-00071782-00072059 sometimes as a lone warrior at least in UWPEru80yoc-00288-00072060-00072281 the industry forums but I think it's UWPEru80yoc-00289-00072282-00072581 growing I think especially women in UWPEru80yoc-00290-00072582-00072838 technology women in a leadership on the UWPEru80yoc-00291-00072839-00072998 you know line of business side is UWPEru80yoc-00292-00072999-00073268 growing and so is and Northern Trust I'm UWPEru80yoc-00293-00073269-00073507 very proud to say is big around UWPEru80yoc-00294-00073508-00073772 diversity and and providing Cape you UWPEru80yoc-00295-00073773-00074101 know opportunities to women so from that UWPEru80yoc-00296-00074102-00074306 perspective I think as you know I'm UWPEru80yoc-00297-00074307-00074531 excited that that women are taking UWPEru80yoc-00298-00074532-00074725 interest in data yes it is a very hard UWPEru80yoc-00299-00074726-00075053 job so I think I think you know I feel UWPEru80yoc-00300-00075054-00075272 like we are organized we get a lot done UWPEru80yoc-00301-00075273-00075587 at the same time other than that's the UWPEru80yoc-00302-00075588-00075890 right thing to do on there other sort of UWPEru80yoc-00303-00075891-00076046 business dimensions is it Martha UWPEru80yoc-00304-00076047-00076412 versus Venus of their other sort of you UWPEru80yoc-00305-00076413-00076681 know enrichments that a woman leader UWPEru80yoc-00306-00076682-00077006 brings to the equation or is it just UWPEru80yoc-00307-00077007-00077156 because it's the right thing to do I UWPEru80yoc-00308-00077157-00077503 think I have seen tenacity UWPEru80yoc-00309-00077504-00078016 have no effect I think the higher UWPEru80yoc-00310-00078017-00078373 tenacity to to be persistent to be UWPEru80yoc-00311-00078374-00078801 methodical to be methodical and also to UWPEru80yoc-00312-00078802-00079147 why to have the hard hard discussions in UWPEru80yoc-00313-00079148-00079425 a very you know factual way sometimes UWPEru80yoc-00314-00079426-00079717 but also in you know yes this is the UWPEru80yoc-00315-00079718-00079899 right thing to do but is there ways we UWPEru80yoc-00316-00079900-00080112 could you know make this this change UWPEru80yoc-00317-00080113-00080430 happen in it you know in a systematic UWPEru80yoc-00318-00080431-00080718 bite-sized chunk way sometimes I think UWPEru80yoc-00319-00080719-00081142 those course of conversations help a lot UWPEru80yoc-00320-00081143-00081630 more than I think and I think it's to me UWPEru80yoc-00321-00081631-00081955 I love that work of it I have to say UWPEru80yoc-00322-00081956-00082090 that's kind of a that's a word that's UWPEru80yoc-00323-00082091-00082305 oftentimes associated with with males a UWPEru80yoc-00324-00082306-00082500 lot of times the tenacious woman it's UWPEru80yoc-00325-00082501-00082654 it's you know different adjectives or UWPEru80yoc-00326-00082655-00082792 different right it's a term I don't know UWPEru80yoc-00327-00082793-00082909 at least what your experience has been UWPEru80yoc-00328-00082910-00083098 but so that's good a good choice of UWPEru80yoc-00329-00083099-00083917 words might be pushy before right I UWPEru80yoc-00330-00083918-00084067 think it's persistence the last question UWPEru80yoc-00331-00084068-00084332 for you we here we are at the inaugural UWPEru80yoc-00332-00084333-00084799 IBM think 2018 you guys are on IBM UWPEru80yoc-00333-00084800-00085012 analytics global elite partners we talk UWPEru80yoc-00334-00085013-00085182 to us a little bit about that strategic UWPEru80yoc-00335-00085183-00085330 partnership and what it means for UWPEru80yoc-00336-00085331-00085567 Northern Trust oh we have this UWPEru80yoc-00337-00085568-00085765 partnership has really helped us UWPEru80yoc-00338-00085766-00085990 tremendously in the last three years why UWPEru80yoc-00339-00085991-00086242 we were putting the strategy to action UWPEru80yoc-00340-00086243-00086469 while operationalizing data governance UWPEru80yoc-00341-00086470-00086700 while operationalizing a lot of the UWPEru80yoc-00342-00086701-00086860 capabilities we thought we would have UWPEru80yoc-00343-00086861-00087051 but really kind of make you know UWPEru80yoc-00344-00087052-00087304 bringing that to life they're also UWPEru80yoc-00345-00087305-00087541 really excited because a lot of the UWPEru80yoc-00346-00087542-00087724 feedback that we've provided has gone UWPEru80yoc-00347-00087725-00088041 into kind of redoing some of the product UWPEru80yoc-00348-00088042-00088407 products within IBM so we've been UWPEru80yoc-00349-00088408-00088632 definitely partnered and done a lot of UWPEru80yoc-00350-00088633-00088875 testing for some of the Nanji you know UWPEru80yoc-00351-00088876-00089205 the ones that you know the beta versions UWPEru80yoc-00352-00089206-00089513 and it's also helped us you know I think UWPEru80yoc-00353-00089514-00089672 sometimes it's UWPEru80yoc-00354-00089673-00089933 it's been like a marriage we've had hard UWPEru80yoc-00355-00089934-00090203 times getting through certain hurdles UWPEru80yoc-00356-00090204-00090515 but it really has really paid paid paid UWPEru80yoc-00357-00090516-00090758 off and I think the other thing is we've UWPEru80yoc-00358-00090759-00090944 really operationalize governance to the UWPEru80yoc-00359-00090945-00091145 to the core at Northern Trust UWPEru80yoc-00360-00091146-00091451 I think iBM is also seeing value and UWPEru80yoc-00361-00091452-00091727 sharing that our story without those UWPEru80yoc-00362-00091728-00092003 because others have started started the UWPEru80yoc-00363-00092004-00092195 journey but then may have taken certain UWPEru80yoc-00364-00092196-00092396 different approaches to making that UWPEru80yoc-00365-00092397-00092657 happen so all in all I think that the UWPEru80yoc-00366-00092658-00092849 universe unified governance framework UWPEru80yoc-00367-00092850-00093050 has really helped us and I think will be UWPEru80yoc-00368-00093051-00093386 really loved as a client what's on their UWPEru80yoc-00369-00093387-00093557 to-do list what's on IBM's to-do list UWPEru80yoc-00370-00093558-00093776 for you so I think one of the things UWPEru80yoc-00371-00093777-00094028 that you know we've been talking quite a UWPEru80yoc-00372-00094029-00094283 bit is I we have a new CIO and he's UWPEru80yoc-00373-00094284-00094499 really interested in the cloud strategy UWPEru80yoc-00374-00094500-00094676 I know you've been talking sure about UWPEru80yoc-00375-00094677-00094985 that we've we again we're a bank so you UWPEru80yoc-00376-00094986-00095197 know due to regulation there's you know UWPEru80yoc-00377-00095198-00095447 strategies in terms of private versus UWPEru80yoc-00378-00095448-00095678 club public cloud like that's one UWPEru80yoc-00379-00095679-00095861 conversation we'll definitely want to UWPEru80yoc-00380-00095862-00096149 take further we want more integrated UWPEru80yoc-00381-00096150-00096364 tooling within the unified governance UWPEru80yoc-00382-00096365-00096599 platform that's something that's been on UWPEru80yoc-00383-00096600-00096818 the you know a topic that we've UWPEru80yoc-00384-00096819-00097025 discussed quite a bit for them a I UWPEru80yoc-00385-00097026-00097265 machine learning the bonnets is huge for UWPEru80yoc-00386-00097266-00097589 us how do we leverage Watson more more UWPEru80yoc-00387-00097590-00097880 much more we've done a few PLC's how do UWPEru80yoc-00388-00097881-00098045 we really operationalize and make sure UWPEru80yoc-00389-00098046-00098336 that that's something that we UWPEru80yoc-00390-00098337-00098538 so it sounds like a very symbiotic UWPEru80yoc-00391-00098539-00098799 relationship slash marriage that you UWPEru80yoc-00392-00098800-00099018 would have well Ranjana we want to thank UWPEru80yoc-00393-00099019-00099217 you for joining us and sharing how you UWPEru80yoc-00394-00099218-00099426 really kind of you're exhibiting the UWPEru80yoc-00395-00099427-00099721 term change agent in a tenacious way I UWPEru80yoc-00396-00099722-00099906 feel like I want to say I'm flanked UWPEru80yoc-00397-00099907-00100824 between two data divas well we want to UWPEru80yoc-00398-00100825-00100986 thank you so much again for stopping by UWPEru80yoc-00399-00100987-00101163 and sharing and congrats on your success UWPEru80yoc-00400-00101164-00101286 and we hope you have a great time here UWPEru80yoc-00401-00101287-00101473 enjoy the sunshine maybe bring some back UWPEru80yoc-00402-00101474-00101832 to Chicago go do yeah and for de UWPEru80yoc-00403-00101833-00101985 Villante I'm Lisa Martin we want to UWPEru80yoc-00404-00101986-00102123 encourage you to check out the cube UWPEru80yoc-00405-00102124-00102346 dotnet to watch all of the videos that UWPEru80yoc-00406-00102347-00102519 we have done so far and we'll be doing UWPEru80yoc-00407-00102520-00102729 at IBM think 2018 and of course on all UWPEru80yoc-00408-00102730-00102933 of the shows that we do also head over UWPEru80yoc-00409-00102934-00103191 to Silicon angle calm that's our media UWPEru80yoc-00410-00103192-00103302 site where you're gonna find pretty much UWPEru80yoc-00411-00103303-00103597 in near-real-time synopsis and stories UWPEru80yoc-00412-00103598-00103774 on not just what we're doing here but UWPEru80yoc-00413-00103775-00104052 everything around the globe again for UWPEru80yoc-00414-00104053-00104241 Dave Allante I am Lisa Martin live from UWPEru80yoc-00415-00104242-00104535 IBM think 2018 in Vegas we'll be right UWPEru80yoc-00416-00104536-00104715 back after a short break with our next UWPEru80yoc-00417-00104716-00104919 guest UXiOKm1IQ6k-00000-00000000-00000366 both of you um UXiOKm1IQ6k-00001-00000367-00000511 reflect UXiOKm1IQ6k-00002-00000512-00000790 on when your lives changed and you UXiOKm1IQ6k-00003-00000791-00001031 became career music producers UXiOKm1IQ6k-00004-00001032-00001311 what actions or habits can you pinpoint UXiOKm1IQ6k-00005-00001312-00001478 that led up to reaching that level of UXiOKm1IQ6k-00006-00001479-00001767 success UXiOKm1IQ6k-00007-00001768-00001902 so UXiOKm1IQ6k-00008-00001903-00002095 for me i guess it's kind of a weird UXiOKm1IQ6k-00009-00002096-00002334 answer i i always had a plan like since UXiOKm1IQ6k-00010-00002335-00002487 i was in high school that okay i'm not UXiOKm1IQ6k-00011-00002488-00002631 gonna go past my sophomore year of UXiOKm1IQ6k-00012-00002632-00002823 college and if i'm not making living off UXiOKm1IQ6k-00013-00002824-00003031 music by the end of my sophomore year of UXiOKm1IQ6k-00014-00003032-00003175 college i'm just going to drop out of UXiOKm1IQ6k-00015-00003176-00003327 college and figure it out and get a job UXiOKm1IQ6k-00016-00003328-00003590 at flipping burgers or whatever UXiOKm1IQ6k-00017-00003592-00003863 and so i wasn't making a living off of UXiOKm1IQ6k-00018-00003864-00004047 music necessarily when i dropped out i UXiOKm1IQ6k-00019-00004047-00004270 was making about 800 to 1000 bucks a UXiOKm1IQ6k-00020-00004271-00004447 month but i figured that i was close UXiOKm1IQ6k-00021-00004448-00004591 enough and i could kind of see what was UXiOKm1IQ6k-00022-00004592-00004799 going on around me that UXiOKm1IQ6k-00023-00004800-00004927 i asked my parents if i could live with UXiOKm1IQ6k-00024-00004928-00005070 them for a year just take like a gap UXiOKm1IQ6k-00025-00005071-00005286 year and see if i could really do this UXiOKm1IQ6k-00026-00005287-00005406 and i was like okay you know what i can UXiOKm1IQ6k-00027-00005407-00005654 do this within a year and thank god i UXiOKm1IQ6k-00028-00005655-00005815 did because looking back on it i could UXiOKm1IQ6k-00029-00005816-00005975 have really screwed my life up like what UXiOKm1IQ6k-00030-00005976-00006286 if i like failed like to do this it's a UXiOKm1IQ6k-00031-00006287-00006446 bit stubborn i guess i'm just stubborn UXiOKm1IQ6k-00032-00006447-00007070 but that's how it was UXiOKm1IQ6k-00033-00007072-00007319 i mean you have to be stubborn to do UXiOKm1IQ6k-00034-00007320-00007663 something like this yeah yeah absolutely UXiOKm1IQ6k-00035-00007664-00007831 um UXiOKm1IQ6k-00036-00007831-00008031 yeah no i mean UXiOKm1IQ6k-00037-00008031-00008263 you to me like to me UXiOKm1IQ6k-00038-00008264-00008446 when i was UXiOKm1IQ6k-00039-00008447-00008671 i moved to maryland when i was like 15 UXiOKm1IQ6k-00040-00008672-00008831 and i met i met UXiOKm1IQ6k-00041-00008832-00008967 two people there that became my best UXiOKm1IQ6k-00042-00008968-00009142 friends and they were stupid talented at UXiOKm1IQ6k-00043-00009143-00009374 music and i was complete cheeks at it UXiOKm1IQ6k-00044-00009375-00009551 like so bad UXiOKm1IQ6k-00045-00009552-00009735 and uh and it pissed me off enough to UXiOKm1IQ6k-00046-00009736-00009903 get inspired to like go find something UXiOKm1IQ6k-00047-00009904-00010142 to do in music um UXiOKm1IQ6k-00048-00010143-00010359 and i had already tried you know all the UXiOKm1IQ6k-00049-00010360-00010567 instruments i can play piano and and i UXiOKm1IQ6k-00050-00010568-00010855 can play drums now but um it was like UXiOKm1IQ6k-00051-00010856-00011135 through that like just UXiOKm1IQ6k-00052-00011136-00011351 insane urge to like get good at UXiOKm1IQ6k-00053-00011352-00011519 something to to match their level in UXiOKm1IQ6k-00054-00011520-00011727 terms of making music that i found logic UXiOKm1IQ6k-00055-00011728-00011919 and i found production UXiOKm1IQ6k-00056-00011920-00012063 um UXiOKm1IQ6k-00057-00012064-00012263 and funny enough like UXiOKm1IQ6k-00058-00012264-00012470 the the thing to me like the thing that UXiOKm1IQ6k-00059-00012471-00012591 set me apart UXiOKm1IQ6k-00060-00012592-00012855 and allowed me to to do this full-time UXiOKm1IQ6k-00061-00012856-00012951 was UXiOKm1IQ6k-00062-00012952-00013175 uh discipline number one UXiOKm1IQ6k-00063-00013176-00013391 and uh number two being okay with like UXiOKm1IQ6k-00064-00013391-00013758 sacrifice like the amount of UXiOKm1IQ6k-00065-00013759-00014038 of people that i had like lost in my in UXiOKm1IQ6k-00066-00014040-00014319 my in my life because i decided to take UXiOKm1IQ6k-00067-00014319-00014503 this route and a lot of my time was UXiOKm1IQ6k-00068-00014504-00014647 spent doing this UXiOKm1IQ6k-00069-00014647-00014863 um and not you know spending time with UXiOKm1IQ6k-00070-00014863-00015071 people that i used to hang out with UXiOKm1IQ6k-00071-00015072-00015247 i think it paid off you know and and i UXiOKm1IQ6k-00072-00015247-00015438 think it always will like it's just you UXiOKm1IQ6k-00073-00015440-00015550 put in the work and the time and the UXiOKm1IQ6k-00074-00015551-00015679 dedication UXiOKm1IQ6k-00075-00015680-00015815 and you don't give yourself an UXiOKm1IQ6k-00076-00015816-00015919 alternative UXiOKm1IQ6k-00077-00015919-00016063 like UXiOKm1IQ6k-00078-00016063-00016175 you're bound to make it you know UXiOKm1IQ6k-00079-00016176-00016343 obviously objectively you need to be UXiOKm1IQ6k-00080-00016344-00016567 talented and and have the skills to be UXiOKm1IQ6k-00081-00016568-00016679 able to learn UXiOKm1IQ6k-00082-00016680-00016799 um UXiOKm1IQ6k-00083-00016800-00016958 but at the end of the day it comes down UXiOKm1IQ6k-00084-00016959-00017183 to dedication and just being okay and UXiOKm1IQ6k-00085-00017184-00017415 mature enough to know like what's worth UXiOKm1IQ6k-00086-00017416-00017583 sacrificing and what's not worth UXiOKm1IQ6k-00087-00017584-00017884 sacrificing UabD3NQsVAu-00000-00000510-00000792 howdy purpose of this video is to talk UabD3NQsVAu-00001-00000793-00001066 about the structure of polymers and UabD3NQsVAu-00002-00001067-00001189 specifically we're going to talk about UabD3NQsVAu-00003-00001190-00001444 how do polymer molecules arrange UabD3NQsVAu-00004-00001445-00001660 themselves with respect to other polymer UabD3NQsVAu-00005-00001661-00001917 molecules now we've already talked about UabD3NQsVAu-00006-00001918-00002097 a couple things we've talked about UabD3NQsVAu-00007-00002098-00002475 metals which we usually describe in UabD3NQsVAu-00008-00002476-00002740 terms of hard sphere close packed models UabD3NQsVAu-00009-00002741-00002967 so we think of individual atoms as UabD3NQsVAu-00010-00002968-00003168 spheres and we say how can we arrange UabD3NQsVAu-00011-00003169-00003307 those spheres with respect to other UabD3NQsVAu-00012-00003308-00003532 spheres we've talked about ionic UabD3NQsVAu-00013-00003533-00003871 structures which also adopt hard sphere UabD3NQsVAu-00014-00003872-00004102 close packed models but in this case we UabD3NQsVAu-00015-00004103-00004306 have the added complexity of the fact UabD3NQsVAu-00016-00004307-00004518 that we have some positively charged and UabD3NQsVAu-00017-00004519-00004750 some negatively charged ions so we need UabD3NQsVAu-00018-00004751-00005004 to maximize the attractive forces while UabD3NQsVAu-00019-00005005-00005242 minimizing those repulsive forces the UabD3NQsVAu-00020-00005243-00005434 polymers are totally different beasts UabD3NQsVAu-00021-00005435-00005754 entirely right a polymer is composed of UabD3NQsVAu-00022-00005755-00006034 a number of molecules each molecule is UabD3NQsVAu-00023-00006035-00006346 very very long with a bunch of repeat UabD3NQsVAu-00024-00006347-00006528 units so this would be the repeat unit UabD3NQsVAu-00025-00006529-00006795 for this particular molecule but this UabD3NQsVAu-00026-00006797-00006984 could easily be thousands tens of UabD3NQsVAu-00027-00006985-00007216 thousands hundreds of thousands of atoms UabD3NQsVAu-00028-00007217-00007462 long along the chain and so it's very UabD3NQsVAu-00029-00007463-00007671 difficult to envision how I could UabD3NQsVAu-00030-00007672-00007998 arrange these really long chains in such UabD3NQsVAu-00031-00007999-00008245 a way to form a periodic order because UabD3NQsVAu-00032-00008246-00008341 that's what we're talking about when we UabD3NQsVAu-00033-00008342-00008667 talk about crystal structure so how do UabD3NQsVAu-00034-00008668-00008719 they do that UabD3NQsVAu-00035-00008720-00009006 how do polymers arrange themselves in a UabD3NQsVAu-00036-00009007-00009262 crystalline fashion and the answer that UabD3NQsVAu-00037-00009263-00009492 question is that they want to line up so UabD3NQsVAu-00038-00009493-00009966 I have chains of polymers that are lined UabD3NQsVAu-00039-00009967-00010420 up parallel to other chains right so UabD3NQsVAu-00040-00010421-00010824 this is an example of polyethylene the UabD3NQsVAu-00041-00010825-00011391 repeat unit polyethylene is given by two UabD3NQsVAu-00042-00011392-00011691 carbons each carbon has two hydrogen's UabD3NQsVAu-00043-00011692-00011952 coming off it so this is probably one of UabD3NQsVAu-00044-00011953-00012162 the most basic polymers that that we can UabD3NQsVAu-00045-00012163-00012624 think about and we see a unit cell so UabD3NQsVAu-00046-00012625-00012759 this you know looks a little bit UabD3NQsVAu-00047-00012760-00012910 different from some of the unit cells UabD3NQsVAu-00048-00012911-00013228 that you've seen before for metals and UabD3NQsVAu-00049-00013229-00013438 for ionic ceramics it's a little bit UabD3NQsVAu-00050-00013438-00013732 longer maybe not as symmetric the atoms UabD3NQsVAu-00051-00013733-00013828 are arranged UabD3NQsVAu-00052-00013829-00014125 unusual not high symmetry positions but UabD3NQsVAu-00053-00014126-00014316 it behaved just like other crystalline UabD3NQsVAu-00054-00014318-00014572 systems so if I took that unit cell and UabD3NQsVAu-00055-00014572-00015006 translated it up I could draw the unit UabD3NQsVAu-00056-00015007-00015316 cell immediately above it and it would UabD3NQsVAu-00057-00015316-00015516 look exactly identical to that original UabD3NQsVAu-00058-00015518-00015775 unit cell so again I can repeat and fill UabD3NQsVAu-00059-00015776-00016139 up all space by repeating this unit cell UabD3NQsVAu-00060-00016140-00016628 so another thing to keep in mind is that UabD3NQsVAu-00061-00016629-00016974 polymers tend to have strong covalent UabD3NQsVAu-00062-00016975-00017296 bonding along the backbone so between UabD3NQsVAu-00063-00017297-00017683 the carbon atoms in this case now the UabD3NQsVAu-00064-00017684-00018009 bonding between polymer chains it is UabD3NQsVAu-00065-00018010-00018192 relatively weak this is a form of UabD3NQsVAu-00066-00018193-00018381 secondary bonding for Vander Waals UabD3NQsVAu-00067-00018382-00018589 bonding and what that means is that UabD3NQsVAu-00068-00018590-00018834 individual carbon chains or polymer UabD3NQsVAu-00069-00018835-00019225 chains can move with respect to their UabD3NQsVAu-00070-00019226-00019437 neighbors so that chain could move up UabD3NQsVAu-00071-00019438-00019708 and down and so polymers tend to be very UabD3NQsVAu-00072-00019709-00020346 dynamic systems ok so that's a sort of UabD3NQsVAu-00073-00020347-00020742 idealized perfect model of crystals UabD3NQsVAu-00074-00020743-00020986 crystallinity and polymers what does it UabD3NQsVAu-00075-00020987-00021217 look like in real systems so this is the UabD3NQsVAu-00076-00021218-00021405 result of some computer simulation work UabD3NQsVAu-00077-00021406-00021661 working with a bunch of long chains of UabD3NQsVAu-00078-00021662-00022078 polymers and this is what we see UabD3NQsVAu-00079-00022079-00022314 experimentally as well polymers tend to UabD3NQsVAu-00080-00022315-00022572 have fairly crystalline regions and if I UabD3NQsVAu-00081-00022573-00022887 could identify some small area there it UabD3NQsVAu-00082-00022888-00023058 would look just like that unit cell that UabD3NQsVAu-00083-00023059-00023380 we just looked at but there is a a UabD3NQsVAu-00084-00023381-00023631 crystalline region here that that is UabD3NQsVAu-00085-00023632-00023950 fairly coherent long range order but UabD3NQsVAu-00086-00023951-00024199 it's surrounded by regions that are UabD3NQsVAu-00087-00024200-00024405 amorphous so the structure in this UabD3NQsVAu-00088-00024406-00024711 region is relatively unpredictable I UabD3NQsVAu-00089-00024712-00024897 can't translate from here over to here UabD3NQsVAu-00090-00024898-00025177 and see the same structure so this is UabD3NQsVAu-00091-00025178-00025530 what we call a lamella this region of UabD3NQsVAu-00092-00025531-00025824 crystalline material it's surrounded by UabD3NQsVAu-00093-00025825-00026293 non crystalline polymers as opposed to UabD3NQsVAu-00094-00026294-00026586 metals and ionic materials which can UabD3NQsVAu-00095-00026587-00026818 essentially become a hundred percent UabD3NQsVAu-00096-00026819-00027055 crystalline it's impossible for polymers UabD3NQsVAu-00097-00027056-00027112 to UabD3NQsVAu-00098-00027113-00027277 that's just because we have these long UabD3NQsVAu-00099-00027277-00027505 floppy molecules you can't get all of UabD3NQsVAu-00100-00027506-00027736 them lined up perfectly so there's UabD3NQsVAu-00101-00027737-00027976 always some amorphous region and we call UabD3NQsVAu-00102-00027977-00028141 that semi crystalline it's only UabD3NQsVAu-00103-00028142-00028539 partially crystalline we oftentimes also UabD3NQsVAu-00104-00028541-00028750 talk about a chain folded model and what UabD3NQsVAu-00105-00028751-00029005 that means is that each of these chains UabD3NQsVAu-00106-00029006-00029317 that I see is not its own unique polymer UabD3NQsVAu-00107-00029318-00029364 right UabD3NQsVAu-00108-00029366-00029595 I can see cases where one polymer chain UabD3NQsVAu-00109-00029597-00029860 comes up loops down and so its UabD3NQsVAu-00110-00029861-00030070 neighboring chain is actually itself UabD3NQsVAu-00111-00030070-00030307 that's folded back over and to make that UabD3NQsVAu-00112-00030308-00030547 a little more clear here I have a image UabD3NQsVAu-00113-00030548-00030981 from this same study in this case I've UabD3NQsVAu-00114-00030982-00031300 not I think the authors have highlighted UabD3NQsVAu-00115-00031301-00031600 individual polymer chains with their own UabD3NQsVAu-00116-00031601-00031795 unique color and so you can see a region UabD3NQsVAu-00117-00031795-00032064 like this where one chain has come down UabD3NQsVAu-00118-00032066-00032308 it's folded and so the bonding is UabD3NQsVAu-00119-00032308-00032527 between that same chain folded back on UabD3NQsVAu-00120-00032527-00032836 itself these are also snapshots in time UabD3NQsVAu-00121-00032837-00033244 A to B to C D to D and so you can see in UabD3NQsVAu-00122-00033245-00033406 this case it's a crystalline material UabD3NQsVAu-00123-00033407-00033682 but there is some motion right so look UabD3NQsVAu-00124-00033683-00033940 at this bright green one it starts there UabD3NQsVAu-00125-00033941-00034135 but it starts to come out more of it is UabD3NQsVAu-00126-00034136-00034333 coming out more of it has slowed down so UabD3NQsVAu-00127-00034334-00034600 this emphasizes that fact that polymer UabD3NQsVAu-00128-00034601-00034806 chains can slide past each other UabD3NQsVAu-00129-00034807-00035053 relatively easily because of that weaker UabD3NQsVAu-00130-00035054-00035503 secondary bonding that I see okay let's UabD3NQsVAu-00131-00035504-00035797 zoom out one more level so this is UabD3NQsVAu-00132-00035798-00035923 something I could see with an optical UabD3NQsVAu-00133-00035924-00036193 microscope now and if I look at polymers UabD3NQsVAu-00134-00036194-00036403 if I look at semi crystalline polymers I UabD3NQsVAu-00135-00036404-00036655 see what are called spheria lights and UabD3NQsVAu-00136-00036656-00036864 they're called that because they are UabD3NQsVAu-00137-00036865-00037315 spherical in nature if I get enough of UabD3NQsVAu-00138-00037316-00037516 them they start to impinge on each other UabD3NQsVAu-00139-00037517-00037756 and that means that if these nice UabD3NQsVAu-00140-00037757-00037921 geometrical shapes so they can't be UabD3NQsVAu-00141-00037922-00038071 spheres because they've occupied all the UabD3NQsVAu-00142-00038072-00038461 space and this is similar to a grain UabD3NQsVAu-00143-00038462-00038698 structure in metals but if i zoom in I UabD3NQsVAu-00144-00038699-00038956 look at one of those spheres I find out UabD3NQsVAu-00145-00038957-00039280 that it's composed of lamella and so UabD3NQsVAu-00146-00039281-00039570 crystalline chain folded sheets and UabD3NQsVAu-00147-00039571-00039889 regions of amorphous material in between UabD3NQsVAu-00148-00039890-00040174 and then maybe I would have another UabD3NQsVAu-00149-00040175-00040290 lamella UabD3NQsVAu-00150-00040291-00040817 and some more amorphous polymers so this UabD3NQsVAu-00151-00040818-00041012 sphere you light is not a hundred UabD3NQsVAu-00152-00041013-00041201 percent crystalline even though it looks UabD3NQsVAu-00153-00041202-00041399 like one contiguous thing at an optical UabD3NQsVAu-00154-00041400-00041606 wavelength it's actually composed of UabD3NQsVAu-00155-00041607-00041807 regions of crystalline material in these UabD3NQsVAu-00156-00041808-00042077 lamellas that are separated by amorphous UabD3NQsVAu-00157-00042078-00042350 regions but this is often times this is UabD3NQsVAu-00158-00042351-00042536 a common microstructure that we see at UabD3NQsVAu-00159-00042537-00042887 many semi crystalline polymers okay UabD3NQsVAu-00160-00042888-00043036 finally a summary so we talked about 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feed UgTExvAw18Y-00012-00004283-00004454 the hungry and protect the environment UgTExvAw18Y-00013-00004455-00004750 anonymous is everyone anyone who cannot UgTExvAw18Y-00014-00004751-00004968 stand for injustice and decides to do UgTExvAw18Y-00015-00004969-00005197 something about it we are all over the UgTExvAw18Y-00016-00005198-00005454 earth and here to stay to Monsanto we UgTExvAw18Y-00017-00005455-00005631 demand you stop the following UgTExvAw18Y-00018-00005632-00005881 contaminating the global food chain with UgTExvAw18Y-00019-00005882-00006166 GMOs intimidating small farmers with UgTExvAw18Y-00020-00006167-00006406 bullying and lawsuits propagating the UgTExvAw18Y-00021-00006406-00006598 use of destructive pesticides and UgTExvAw18Y-00022-00006598-00006787 herbicides across the globe using UgTExvAw18Y-00023-00006788-00007027 Terminator technology which renders UgTExvAw18Y-00024-00007028-00007291 plant sterols attempting to hijack UN UgTExvAw18Y-00025-00007292-00007531 climate 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UgTExvAw18Y-00039-00010445-00010741 illegal business practices agri a great UgTExvAw18Y-00040-00010742-00011110 example in 2006 Agri Alliance for a UgTExvAw18Y-00041-00011111-00011305 green revolution in Africa was UgTExvAw18Y-00042-00011306-00011485 established with funding from bill gates UgTExvAw18Y-00043-00011486-00011752 in the Rockefeller Foundation among the UgTExvAw18Y-00044-00011753-00012042 other founding members of agri we find UgTExvAw18Y-00045-00012043-00012399 monsanto Novartis sanofi-aventis UgTExvAw18Y-00046-00012400-00012688 glaxosmithkline Procter and Gamble Merck UgTExvAw18Y-00047-00012689-00013041 mosaic Pfizer sumitomo chemical and Yara UgTExvAw18Y-00048-00013042-00013249 the fact that these corporations are UgTExvAw18Y-00049-00013250-00013430 either chemical or pharmaceutical UgTExvAw18Y-00050-00013431-00013696 manufacturers is no coincidence the UgTExvAw18Y-00051-00013697-00013924 people of the world see you monsanto UgTExvAw18Y-00052-00013925-00014203 anonymous sees you seeds of opportunism UgTExvAw18Y-00053-00014204-00014446 climate change offers these business is UgTExvAw18Y-00054-00014447-00014686 a perfect excuse to prey on the poorest UgTExvAw18Y-00055-00014687-00014899 countries by swooping in to rescue the UgTExvAw18Y-00056-00014900-00015118 farmers and people with their GMO crops UgTExvAw18Y-00057-00015119-00015334 and chemical pesticides these UgTExvAw18Y-00058-00015335-00015416 corporation UgTExvAw18Y-00059-00015416-00015622 eradicate the traditional ways of the UgTExvAw18Y-00060-00015624-00015815 country's agriculture for the sake of UgTExvAw18Y-00061-00015816-00016063 enormous profits the introduction of UgTExvAw18Y-00062-00016065-00016358 GMOs drastically affects local farmers UgTExvAw18Y-00063-00016359-00016538 income as the price of chemicals UgTExvAw18Y-00064-00016539-00016742 required for GMOs and seeds from UgTExvAw18Y-00065-00016743-00016952 Monsanto cripples the farmers meager UgTExvAw18Y-00066-00016953-00017237 profit 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to Monsanto we UgTExvAw18Y-00080-00020553-00020744 are anonymous we are legion we do not UgTExvAw18Y-00081-00020745-00021131 forgive we do not forget expect UiSYI_m3bwy-00000-00000064-00000175 because you're a girl you can't be UiSYI_m3bwy-00001-00000176-00000342 trusted with high-powered machinery us UiSYI_m3bwy-00002-00000343-00000591 men can handle this not you whatever UiSYI_m3bwy-00003-00000592-00000743 i'll still make something better than UiSYI_m3bwy-00004-00000744-00000815 you UiSYI_m3bwy-00005-00000816-00001111 hey idiot what are you gonna make i'm UiSYI_m3bwy-00006-00001112-00001311 not really sure you should be calling me UiSYI_m3bwy-00007-00001312-00001718 names today oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00008-00001719-00002079 whatever idiot don't do it jeffy don't UiSYI_m3bwy-00009-00002080-00003270 do it UiSYI_m3bwy-00010-00003271-00003390 what's good youtube you already know UiSYI_m3bwy-00011-00003392-00003583 this is your boyfriend gaming guys with UiSYI_m3bwy-00012-00003584-00003799 another video we're going to be reacting UiSYI_m3bwy-00013-00003800-00004086 to sml movie UiSYI_m3bwy-00014-00004087-00004311 jeffy goes to juvie UiSYI_m3bwy-00015-00004312-00004486 let's get started UiSYI_m3bwy-00016-00004487-00004679 make sure i'm recording UiSYI_m3bwy-00017-00004680-00005151 for my face cam okay UiSYI_m3bwy-00018-00005152-00005622 let's get it started UiSYI_m3bwy-00019-00005623-00005847 all right crafts today we're gonna be UiSYI_m3bwy-00020-00005848-00006006 doing wait UiSYI_m3bwy-00021-00006007-00006238 oh i thought UiSYI_m3bwy-00022-00006239-00006470 all right crafts today we're gonna be UiSYI_m3bwy-00023-00006472-00006727 doing wood shop so with the very UiSYI_m3bwy-00024-00006728-00006927 dangerous and high power tools on your UiSYI_m3bwy-00025-00006928-00007110 desk you're gonna be making a wooden UiSYI_m3bwy-00026-00007111-00007295 sculpture oh man UiSYI_m3bwy-00027-00007295-00007559 you trust little kids UiSYI_m3bwy-00028-00007559-00007942 you trust UiSYI_m3bwy-00029-00007943-00008142 let me try to make my UiSYI_m3bwy-00030-00008143-00008446 i'm trying to make my way UiSYI_m3bwy-00031-00008447-00008646 i can't UiSYI_m3bwy-00032-00008647-00008767 but UiSYI_m3bwy-00033-00008768-00009110 you giving UiSYI_m3bwy-00034-00009111-00009271 little kids UiSYI_m3bwy-00035-00009272-00009495 you tools UiSYI_m3bwy-00036-00009496-00009663 man UiSYI_m3bwy-00037-00009664-00009871 hammer's so cool you gonna mess around UiSYI_m3bwy-00038-00009872-00010087 and hurt somebody whoa isn't this kind UiSYI_m3bwy-00039-00010088-00010374 of dangerous oh awesome hey cody tag UiSYI_m3bwy-00040-00010375-00010535 you're in joseph get away from me you're UiSYI_m3bwy-00041-00010536-00010687 gonna poke my eye out with that thing UiSYI_m3bwy-00042-00010688-00010887 dude it's what i'm trying to do you know UiSYI_m3bwy-00043-00010888-00011078 what hey yo you trying to post them on UiSYI_m3bwy-00044-00011079-00011310 the ipod UiSYI_m3bwy-00045-00011311-00011487 uh teacher what are we supposed to make UiSYI_m3bwy-00046-00011488-00011719 anything you want see i made a birdhouse UiSYI_m3bwy-00047-00011720-00012014 so get started crafts okay teacher UiSYI_m3bwy-00048-00012015-00012174 jones didn't put cody down UiSYI_m3bwy-00049-00012175-00012399 he's having fun put him down all right UiSYI_m3bwy-00050-00012400-00012663 dude UiSYI_m3bwy-00051-00012664-00012863 oh god i'm gonna throw up cody are you UiSYI_m3bwy-00052-00012863-00013143 okay UiSYI_m3bwy-00053-00013144-00013391 well at least you have fun oh dude stop UiSYI_m3bwy-00054-00013391-00013591 being a baby i give you a roller coaster UiSYI_m3bwy-00055-00013591-00013766 ride yeah cody what are you gonna make UiSYI_m3bwy-00056-00013768-00013935 out of wood i don't know probably a UiSYI_m3bwy-00057-00013936-00014175 unicorn gay well what are you gonna make UiSYI_m3bwy-00058-00014176-00014311 oh a shark UiSYI_m3bwy-00059-00014312-00014543 straight i know what about you junior UiSYI_m3bwy-00060-00014544-00014655 what are you making i think i want to UiSYI_m3bwy-00061-00014656-00014822 make a dinosaur UiSYI_m3bwy-00062-00014823-00015015 why did i only get tape and scissors UiSYI_m3bwy-00063-00015016-00015127 because you're a girl you can't be UiSYI_m3bwy-00064-00015128-00015303 trusted with high-powered machinery us UiSYI_m3bwy-00065-00015304-00015543 men can handle this not you whatever UiSYI_m3bwy-00066-00015544-00015703 i'll still make something better than UiSYI_m3bwy-00067-00015704-00016030 you hey idiot what are you gonna make UiSYI_m3bwy-00068-00016031-00016215 i'm not really sure you should be UiSYI_m3bwy-00069-00016216-00016407 calling me names today UiSYI_m3bwy-00070-00016408-00016543 uh-oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00071-00016544-00016686 uh-oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00072-00016687-00016863 whatever idiot UiSYI_m3bwy-00073-00016864-00017230 don't do it jeffy don't do it UiSYI_m3bwy-00074-00017231-00017679 t-shirt UiSYI_m3bwy-00075-00017680-00017830 jeffy UiSYI_m3bwy-00076-00017831-00018286 he put a hammer right through his head UiSYI_m3bwy-00077-00018287-00018639 yo can i see the nurse is that an axe in UiSYI_m3bwy-00078-00018640-00018791 your head yeah UiSYI_m3bwy-00079-00018792-00019127 oh crass mate how are you still alive UiSYI_m3bwy-00080-00019128-00019367 make sure you be careful with the tools UiSYI_m3bwy-00081-00019368-00019663 you only have 15 minutes UiSYI_m3bwy-00082-00019664-00019886 all right chris stop working your 15 UiSYI_m3bwy-00083-00019887-00020071 minutes is up i'm not gonna come around UiSYI_m3bwy-00084-00020072-00020279 across and see what you made hey cody UiSYI_m3bwy-00085-00020280-00020486 check out my dinosaur sick dino junior UiSYI_m3bwy-00086-00020487-00020639 not cooler than my shark though hey UiSYI_m3bwy-00087-00020640-00020886 penelope what'd you make i made a house UiSYI_m3bwy-00088-00020887-00021055 what a lame house you didn't even put a UiSYI_m3bwy-00089-00021056-00021271 door i didn't have enough time junior UiSYI_m3bwy-00090-00021272-00021447 hey everybody look at penelope's lame UiSYI_m3bwy-00091-00021448-00021607 house she didn't put a door that means UiSYI_m3bwy-00092-00021608-00021735 any guy can come and go whenever they UiSYI_m3bwy-00093-00021736-00022104 want like between her mom's legs UiSYI_m3bwy-00094-00022105-00022255 [Applause] UiSYI_m3bwy-00095-00022256-00022478 you tell your momma huh your mama hug UiSYI_m3bwy-00096-00022479-00022783 where UiSYI_m3bwy-00097-00022784-00023055 what did you make i need a house okay UiSYI_m3bwy-00098-00023056-00023222 where's your door oh i didn't have UiSYI_m3bwy-00099-00023223-00023486 enough time okay b-minus all right UiSYI_m3bwy-00100-00023487-00023686 junior what did you make i made a UiSYI_m3bwy-00101-00023687-00023815 dinosaur UiSYI_m3bwy-00102-00023816-00024119 [Applause] UiSYI_m3bwy-00103-00024120-00024414 uh it's a blind dinosaur b-minus all UiSYI_m3bwy-00104-00024415-00024599 right joseph what did you make oh i made UiSYI_m3bwy-00105-00024600-00024711 a shark UiSYI_m3bwy-00106-00024712-00025078 okay where's his body uh b-minus ah all UiSYI_m3bwy-00107-00025079-00025263 right cody what did you make i made a UiSYI_m3bwy-00108-00025264-00025511 unicorn head oh yay finally someone who UiSYI_m3bwy-00109-00025512-00025758 made exactly what they said a-plus UiSYI_m3bwy-00110-00025760-00025990 that's not fair all right what you ain't UiSYI_m3bwy-00111-00025991-00026199 saying hey jeffy what did you make i UiSYI_m3bwy-00112-00026200-00026414 made your machine gun oh jesus christ UiSYI_m3bwy-00113-00026416-00026590 grass he's finally doing it everyone UiSYI_m3bwy-00114-00026591-00027502 into the deathly we practiced UiSYI_m3bwy-00115-00027504-00027711 y'all really getting UiSYI_m3bwy-00116-00027712-00027951 y'all really getting like that he's UiSYI_m3bwy-00117-00027952-00028143 gonna do it it's always the weird kid i UiSYI_m3bwy-00118-00028144-00028318 thought tony was gonna do it UiSYI_m3bwy-00119-00028319-00028935 thanks junior UiSYI_m3bwy-00120-00028936-00029479 so hilarious though UiSYI_m3bwy-00121-00029480-00030174 so hilarious though UiSYI_m3bwy-00122-00030175-00030358 all right kids i'm here stay calm it's UiSYI_m3bwy-00123-00030360-00030527 safe now just everybody stay under their UiSYI_m3bwy-00124-00030527-00030799 desks what's going on hey there crazy UiSYI_m3bwy-00125-00030800-00030974 just calm down don't do anything stupid UiSYI_m3bwy-00126-00030975-00031143 i don't know what you're talking about UiSYI_m3bwy-00127-00031144-00031327 it's okay just hand me the weapon it's UiSYI_m3bwy-00128-00031327-00031495 made out of wood all right i'll be the UiSYI_m3bwy-00129-00031495-00031639 judge of that i know a gun when i see it UiSYI_m3bwy-00130-00031639-00031751 all right everybody i got the gun UiSYI_m3bwy-00131-00031752-00031958 there's run run for your lives wait wait UiSYI_m3bwy-00132-00031960-00032151 a minute this actually is made out of UiSYI_m3bwy-00133-00032152-00032246 wood UiSYI_m3bwy-00134-00032247-00032446 man you're in big trouble for getting my UiSYI_m3bwy-00135-00032447-00032574 hopes up like that i thought i was going UiSYI_m3bwy-00136-00032575-00032758 to be a hero today but still you're UiSYI_m3bwy-00137-00032760-00032895 still in big trouble because you can get UiSYI_m3bwy-00138-00032896-00033055 expelled from pulling a stunt like this UiSYI_m3bwy-00139-00033056-00033255 you're lucky i don't arrest you i'm UiSYI_m3bwy-00140-00033256-00033502 sorry UiSYI_m3bwy-00141-00033503-00033702 what's wrong marvin i have this weird UiSYI_m3bwy-00142-00033703-00033831 feeling that jeffy did something bad at UiSYI_m3bwy-00143-00033832-00034039 school today oh marvin you worry too UiSYI_m3bwy-00144-00034040-00034318 much just sit back relax we'll watch tv UiSYI_m3bwy-00145-00034319-00034662 okay UiSYI_m3bwy-00146-00034663-00034990 breaking news okay this student made a UiSYI_m3bwy-00147-00034991-00035215 weapon during his shop class and sparked UiSYI_m3bwy-00148-00035216-00035455 panic across the entire school cops are UiSYI_m3bwy-00149-00035456-00035623 on the scene now dealing with the UiSYI_m3bwy-00150-00035624-00035823 situation more on the story as it UiSYI_m3bwy-00151-00035824-00036039 develops oh my god if i told you i had a UiSYI_m3bwy-00152-00036040-00036215 feeling jeff is gonna do something bad UiSYI_m3bwy-00153-00036216-00036399 daddy guess what so i was doing my UiSYI_m3bwy-00154-00036400-00036599 project in school and the teacher said i UiSYI_m3bwy-00155-00036600-00036823 was doing such a good job that i got to UiSYI_m3bwy-00156-00036824-00037015 come home early and now i never have to UiSYI_m3bwy-00157-00037016-00037246 go back jeffy what did you do your son UiSYI_m3bwy-00158-00037247-00037455 did the worst thing imaginable what do UiSYI_m3bwy-00159-00037456-00037630 you do well UiSYI_m3bwy-00160-00037631-00037807 see UiSYI_m3bwy-00161-00037808-00038030 i don't know if my camera will focus UiSYI_m3bwy-00162-00038031-00038183 right but UiSYI_m3bwy-00163-00038184-00038511 this will probably be UiSYI_m3bwy-00164-00038512-00039343 the uh the thumbnail UiSYI_m3bwy-00165-00039344-00039518 a car ride over here i was drinking UiSYI_m3bwy-00166-00039519-00039751 hawaiian son did the worst thing UiSYI_m3bwy-00167-00039752-00039911 imaginable what do you do well on the UiSYI_m3bwy-00168-00039912-00040062 car ride over here i was drinking UiSYI_m3bwy-00169-00040063-00040239 hawaiian punch and he asked me if he UiSYI_m3bwy-00170-00040240-00040390 could have a sip and i said no you have UiSYI_m3bwy-00171-00040391-00040559 little kid germs and he said don't worry UiSYI_m3bwy-00172-00040560-00040759 you'll waterfall it so he goes to drink UiSYI_m3bwy-00173-00040760-00040990 it and he spills it all over my car it UiSYI_m3bwy-00174-00040991-00041135 gets on the seats it gets in the UiSYI_m3bwy-00175-00041136-00041327 cupboard it gets on the floorboards big UiSYI_m3bwy-00176-00041328-00041543 sticky mess i am not happy no no i meant UiSYI_m3bwy-00177-00041544-00041727 what happened at school oh that yeah UiSYI_m3bwy-00178-00041728-00041879 that wasn't as bad yeah he just made a UiSYI_m3bwy-00179-00041880-00042023 gun out of wood and everybody thought it UiSYI_m3bwy-00180-00042024-00042199 was real so they got scared what UiSYI_m3bwy-00181-00042200-00042455 hawaiian punch what baby we're past that UiSYI_m3bwy-00182-00042456-00042655 part no i know but it's just so red and UiSYI_m3bwy-00183-00042656-00042879 sticky yeah i know believe me i have to UiSYI_m3bwy-00184-00042880-00043030 clean it up i'm pretty pissed no no no UiSYI_m3bwy-00185-00043031-00043190 no the more important thing is let's UiSYI_m3bwy-00186-00043191-00043311 talk about jeffy at school what's gonna UiSYI_m3bwy-00187-00043312-00043527 happen oh he's getting expelled excelled UiSYI_m3bwy-00188-00043528-00043662 well yeah but the school said they'll UiSYI_m3bwy-00189-00043663-00043807 let him go back to school if he UiSYI_m3bwy-00190-00043808-00044087 completes a one day juvenile detention UiSYI_m3bwy-00191-00044088-00044311 class school thing that i teach okay UiSYI_m3bwy-00192-00044312-00044518 when is the class oh it's tonight and if UiSYI_m3bwy-00193-00044519-00044751 he fails he's gonna go to jail well go UiSYI_m3bwy-00194-00044752-00044958 to jail so he has to pass ain't like UiSYI_m3bwy-00195-00044959-00045183 he'd been there before he has to pass it UiSYI_m3bwy-00196-00045184-00045383 to go back to school and 99 of the UiSYI_m3bwy-00197-00045384-00045535 people who take my class fail well UiSYI_m3bwy-00198-00045536-00045671 doesn't that mean you're just a bad UiSYI_m3bwy-00199-00045672-00045862 teacher no it means they're bad people UiSYI_m3bwy-00200-00045863-00046046 it's not my fault okay so UiSYI_m3bwy-00201-00046047-00046351 it means that you're bad UiSYI_m3bwy-00202-00046352-00046615 oh my gosh i get UiSYI_m3bwy-00203-00046616-00046783 i'm not trying to look for another UiSYI_m3bwy-00204-00046784-00046943 team's message jeffy's gonna go to the UiSYI_m3bwy-00205-00046944-00047071 class tonight and he's gonna pass all UiSYI_m3bwy-00206-00047072-00047279 right jeffy yep all right i'm gonna go UiSYI_m3bwy-00207-00047280-00047511 clean out my car oh okay jeffy why did UiSYI_m3bwy-00208-00047512-00047686 you do that it's not my fault i spilled UiSYI_m3bwy-00209-00047687-00047855 the hawaiian punch he went over his pink UiSYI_m3bwy-00210-00047856-00048007 bomb what no i'm not that why did you do UiSYI_m3bwy-00211-00048008-00048151 the thing at school well because the UiSYI_m3bwy-00212-00048152-00048302 teacher said that i could make whatever UiSYI_m3bwy-00213-00048303-00048518 i wanted out of wood so i made a wooden UiSYI_m3bwy-00214-00048519-00048702 gun and it doesn't shoot [__] which is UiSYI_m3bwy-00215-00048703-00048918 any language okay look let's just all UiSYI_m3bwy-00216-00048919-00049095 calm down jeffy you're gonna go to the UiSYI_m3bwy-00217-00049096-00049302 class tonight and you're going to pass UiSYI_m3bwy-00218-00049303-00049527 it okay aye aye captain hey do you guys UiSYI_m3bwy-00219-00049528-00049735 have napkins like like a whole bunch of UiSYI_m3bwy-00220-00049736-00049943 napkins yeah in the kitchen oh okay i'm UiSYI_m3bwy-00221-00049944-00050102 gonna need a lot of napkins though oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00222-00050103-00050286 okay go go to the kitchen UiSYI_m3bwy-00223-00050287-00050623 oh my god does it why is this my life UiSYI_m3bwy-00224-00050624-00050839 this looks so yummy hey can i have some UiSYI_m3bwy-00225-00050840-00051199 of these paper towels yeah sure thanks UiSYI_m3bwy-00226-00051200-00051414 hey what are you doing UiSYI_m3bwy-00227-00051415-00051638 what are you doing UiSYI_m3bwy-00228-00051639-00051823 hey what are you doing i'm getting paper UiSYI_m3bwy-00229-00051824-00052063 towels you said i could why so many look UiSYI_m3bwy-00230-00052064-00052230 man my car is covered in hawaiian punch UiSYI_m3bwy-00231-00052232-00052407 i need this i think you should probably UiSYI_m3bwy-00232-00052408-00052599 use a vacuum with them any paper towels UiSYI_m3bwy-00233-00052600-00052847 no you don't yes i do no you don't yes i UiSYI_m3bwy-00234-00052848-00053135 do no you don't hey look over there what UiSYI_m3bwy-00235-00053136-00053566 wait hey stop it hey you UiSYI_m3bwy-00236-00053567-00053775 god he was so annoyed UiSYI_m3bwy-00237-00053776-00053959 who is that UiSYI_m3bwy-00238-00053960-00054135 wait what do you want hey i'm gonna need UiSYI_m3bwy-00239-00054136-00054303 a lot more paper towels than this can i UiSYI_m3bwy-00240-00054304-00054582 have the rest no UiSYI_m3bwy-00241-00054583-00054854 oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00242-00054855-00055071 i don't care UiSYI_m3bwy-00243-00055072-00056654 i don't care about these ads UiSYI_m3bwy-00244-00056655-00056847 is that dude rubbing his eye with a UiSYI_m3bwy-00245-00056848-00057007 pencil UiSYI_m3bwy-00246-00057008-00057263 i don't want to be here hey kid what UiSYI_m3bwy-00247-00057264-00057415 close your blood UiSYI_m3bwy-00248-00057416-00057638 what happened to your eyes i tattoo my UiSYI_m3bwy-00249-00057639-00057830 eyeballs with my pencil all i see is UiSYI_m3bwy-00250-00057832-00058023 darkness UiSYI_m3bwy-00251-00058024-00058191 oh my god UiSYI_m3bwy-00252-00058191-00058575 uh you want to try no suit yourself UiSYI_m3bwy-00253-00058576-00058815 i style your fire i don't regret the UiSYI_m3bwy-00254-00058816-00059054 people i killed give me your eyelids no UiSYI_m3bwy-00255-00059055-00059342 i said give me your eyelids go away UiSYI_m3bwy-00256-00059344-00059519 all right all right settle down you UiSYI_m3bwy-00257-00059520-00059759 freaks welcome to be good school where i UiSYI_m3bwy-00258-00059760-00060030 teach you how to be good all right you UiSYI_m3bwy-00259-00060032-00060238 are all menaces to society the world UiSYI_m3bwy-00260-00060239-00060382 would honestly be a better place if you UiSYI_m3bwy-00261-00060383-00060582 did not exist so i'm gonna try to fix UiSYI_m3bwy-00262-00060583-00060815 you now there are three main rules on UiSYI_m3bwy-00263-00060816-00061103 how to be good the first rule is manners UiSYI_m3bwy-00264-00061104-00061254 now that includes things like saying UiSYI_m3bwy-00265-00061255-00061494 please and thank you and according to my UiSYI_m3bwy-00266-00061495-00061759 wife not pissing on the toilet seat but UiSYI_m3bwy-00267-00061760-00061999 i do it anyway it's not my fault you UiSYI_m3bwy-00268-00062000-00062142 have to pee sitting down just pee UiSYI_m3bwy-00269-00062144-00062342 standing up like a man anyway who wants UiSYI_m3bwy-00270-00062344-00062519 to give me an example of manners can i UiSYI_m3bwy-00271-00062520-00062791 please start a fire well no you can't UiSYI_m3bwy-00272-00062791-00063006 start a fire but you did say please and UiSYI_m3bwy-00273-00063007-00063159 i like that that's one step in the right UiSYI_m3bwy-00274-00063160-00063350 direction and then five steps in the UiSYI_m3bwy-00275-00063351-00063503 wrong direction because you asked to UiSYI_m3bwy-00276-00063504-00063711 commit arson okay look i'll give you a UiSYI_m3bwy-00277-00063712-00063919 real life example of manners okay let's UiSYI_m3bwy-00278-00063920-00064135 say you're at a restaurant and you order UiSYI_m3bwy-00279-00064136-00064350 some chicken strips and a side of ranch UiSYI_m3bwy-00280-00064351-00064503 and so the waiter comes and he brings UiSYI_m3bwy-00281-00064504-00064663 the chicken strips but he forgets the UiSYI_m3bwy-00282-00064664-00064847 ranch and you say excuse me i think UiSYI_m3bwy-00283-00064848-00065054 you've forgotten my ranch and he says oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00284-00065055-00065263 right i'll be right on that and then i UiSYI_m3bwy-00285-00065264-00065550 don't oh animate this this looks so dumb UiSYI_m3bwy-00286-00065551-00065831 see him for 15 minutes and then he comes UiSYI_m3bwy-00287-00065832-00066094 back and he says can i get you anything UiSYI_m3bwy-00288-00066095-00066238 huh UiSYI_m3bwy-00289-00066239-00066591 where's my phone name UiSYI_m3bwy-00290-00066592-00066847 well we don't want to go back to class UiSYI_m3bwy-00291-00066848-00067094 yeah UiSYI_m3bwy-00292-00067095-00067199 now UiSYI_m3bwy-00293-00067200-00067471 we're dead at the car UiSYI_m3bwy-00294-00067472-00067711 how come i didn't see y'all pull off UiSYI_m3bwy-00295-00067712-00067863 cause i had wind UiSYI_m3bwy-00296-00067864-00068111 and y'all y'all ain't pull off UiSYI_m3bwy-00297-00068112-00068711 because uh cause i'm kind of working UiSYI_m3bwy-00298-00068712-00069079 uh to um set the clock and which i did UiSYI_m3bwy-00299-00069080-00069319 um UiSYI_m3bwy-00300-00069320-00069679 yo we went to the grocery store UiSYI_m3bwy-00301-00069680-00070103 y'all just went to metro UiSYI_m3bwy-00302-00070104-00070319 should i get for family dollar i told UiSYI_m3bwy-00303-00070320-00070399 you UiSYI_m3bwy-00304-00070400-00070591 yeah you did UiSYI_m3bwy-00305-00070592-00070711 yeah i did UiSYI_m3bwy-00306-00070712-00070959 i told you UiSYI_m3bwy-00307-00070960-00071359 wait before i left UiSYI_m3bwy-00308-00071360-00071726 oh yeah dog food yeah if your dad got UiSYI_m3bwy-00309-00071727-00071871 more in that bag because i ain't doing UiSYI_m3bwy-00310-00071872-00072047 that [__] UiSYI_m3bwy-00311-00072048-00072350 i want to go get out of the supermarket UiSYI_m3bwy-00312-00072351-00072471 i'm in the family UiSYI_m3bwy-00313-00072472-00073367 he kept bringing in the house UiSYI_m3bwy-00314-00073368-00073711 okay guys um okay guys i'm back UiSYI_m3bwy-00315-00073712-00073919 um UiSYI_m3bwy-00316-00073920-00074255 oh i got the green screen on hold on UiSYI_m3bwy-00317-00074256-00074559 let me turn the green screen off UiSYI_m3bwy-00318-00074560-00074679 there we go UiSYI_m3bwy-00319-00074680-00075038 let's continue UiSYI_m3bwy-00320-00075039-00075359 then i don't see him for 15 minutes and UiSYI_m3bwy-00321-00075360-00075519 then he comes back and he says can i get UiSYI_m3bwy-00322-00075520-00075679 you anything and i say well i really UiSYI_m3bwy-00323-00075680-00075887 would like my ranch and then he says oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00324-00075888-00076119 right of course the ranch and then he UiSYI_m3bwy-00325-00076120-00076431 disappears for 30 goddamn minutes and UiSYI_m3bwy-00326-00076432-00076615 then has the balls to come back and say UiSYI_m3bwy-00327-00076616-00076831 hey can i get you the check and i say UiSYI_m3bwy-00328-00076832-00077135 what you can get me is my [__] ranch UiSYI_m3bwy-00329-00077136-00077303 and he says well you can't talk to me UiSYI_m3bwy-00330-00077304-00077519 that way and i say i can talk to you any UiSYI_m3bwy-00331-00077520-00077694 way i want let me see your manager and UiSYI_m3bwy-00332-00077695-00077887 then he says i am the manager and i say UiSYI_m3bwy-00333-00077888-00078031 well that's funny because your name tag UiSYI_m3bwy-00334-00078032-00078247 says waiter so go get me the manager so UiSYI_m3bwy-00335-00078248-00078447 then the manager comes over and says is UiSYI_m3bwy-00336-00078448-00078679 there anything wrong here and i say yeah UiSYI_m3bwy-00337-00078680-00078879 look at my dry chicken strips i want UiSYI_m3bwy-00338-00078880-00079094 some ranch you're gonna copy this entire UiSYI_m3bwy-00339-00079095-00079287 meal for free or i'm gonna put one of my UiSYI_m3bwy-00340-00079288-00079511 bowl hairs in the food and say that you UiSYI_m3bwy-00341-00079512-00079662 did it and i'm gonna get this entire UiSYI_m3bwy-00342-00079663-00079815 restaurant shut down and then the UiSYI_m3bwy-00343-00079816-00080015 manager says oh i'm so sorry sir i'm UiSYI_m3bwy-00344-00080016-00080191 gonna come to your entire meal all your UiSYI_m3bwy-00345-00080192-00080438 food is free today and then i say thank UiSYI_m3bwy-00346-00080439-00080711 you see that's manners i said thank you UiSYI_m3bwy-00347-00080712-00080943 so did anybody learn anything um i UiSYI_m3bwy-00348-00080944-00081238 learned not to forget you rich yes yes UiSYI_m3bwy-00349-00081239-00081359 you don't forget the ranch that's UiSYI_m3bwy-00350-00081360-00081526 exactly right i mean chicken strips UiSYI_m3bwy-00351-00081527-00081679 without ranch it's like a car without UiSYI_m3bwy-00352-00081680-00081823 tires what are you even gonna do with it UiSYI_m3bwy-00353-00081824-00081967 yes exactly you're gonna make an UiSYI_m3bwy-00354-00081968-00082126 excellent waiter someday if applebee's UiSYI_m3bwy-00355-00082127-00082335 ever starts hiring felons okay now the UiSYI_m3bwy-00356-00082336-00082582 second one is helping people you gotta UiSYI_m3bwy-00357-00082583-00082750 help people it's just the nice thing to UiSYI_m3bwy-00358-00082751-00082950 do okay now i'll give you an example UiSYI_m3bwy-00359-00082951-00083126 what do you do if you're driving down UiSYI_m3bwy-00360-00083127-00083303 the street and you see a girl whose car UiSYI_m3bwy-00361-00083304-00083462 is broken down on the side of the road UiSYI_m3bwy-00362-00083463-00083694 you stuff her in the trunk no you don't UiSYI_m3bwy-00363-00083695-00083991 do that you set a car on fire no what is UiSYI_m3bwy-00364-00083992-00084206 it with you and fire what kind of car is UiSYI_m3bwy-00365-00084207-00084382 it why does that even matter maybe i UiSYI_m3bwy-00366-00084383-00084582 could steal it oh no but you can't steal UiSYI_m3bwy-00367-00084583-00084726 it cause it's broken down and you UiSYI_m3bwy-00368-00084727-00084862 shouldn't even want to anyway because UiSYI_m3bwy-00369-00084863-00085079 that's wrong come on think people do you UiSYI_m3bwy-00370-00085080-00085247 cut off her face and wear it i don't UiSYI_m3bwy-00371-00085248-00085462 think it's that one it's definitely fire UiSYI_m3bwy-00372-00085463-00085726 no no no no no no all of you are stupid UiSYI_m3bwy-00373-00085727-00085975 does anyone have an actual good answer UiSYI_m3bwy-00374-00085976-00086279 um pick her up and take her on a date to UiSYI_m3bwy-00375-00086280-00086559 applebee's but you no not applebee's UiSYI_m3bwy-00376-00086560-00086711 were you even listening to anything i UiSYI_m3bwy-00377-00086712-00086855 was saying no she'd be better off just UiSYI_m3bwy-00378-00086856-00087023 on the side of the road she'd be just as UiSYI_m3bwy-00379-00087024-00087191 hungry you know she'd just have to wait UiSYI_m3bwy-00380-00087192-00087375 30 minutes to get her chicken tenders UiSYI_m3bwy-00381-00087376-00087631 and ranch anyway no no no no look i'll UiSYI_m3bwy-00382-00087632-00087799 give you a real life example of helping UiSYI_m3bwy-00383-00087800-00088094 people so my grandfather was incredibly UiSYI_m3bwy-00384-00088095-00088255 rich i mean he was a millionaire just UiSYI_m3bwy-00385-00088256-00088415 filthy rich and so he was in the UiSYI_m3bwy-00386-00088416-00088591 hospital and i was visiting him every UiSYI_m3bwy-00387-00088592-00088735 day you know to make sure i got a piece UiSYI_m3bwy-00388-00088736-00088918 of that and i see that he's on life UiSYI_m3bwy-00389-00088919-00089143 support he's being kept alive by a UiSYI_m3bwy-00390-00089144-00089311 machine now i'm thinking what kind of UiSYI_m3bwy-00391-00089312-00089471 life is that that's no way to live being UiSYI_m3bwy-00392-00089472-00089694 kept alive by a machine but he seems UiSYI_m3bwy-00393-00089695-00089862 happy he says when i get this heart UiSYI_m3bwy-00394-00089863-00090047 transplant tomorrow i'm gonna feel so UiSYI_m3bwy-00395-00090048-00090223 much better i can't wait to get out of UiSYI_m3bwy-00396-00090224-00090423 the hospital and i hear i can't wait to UiSYI_m3bwy-00397-00090424-00090591 get out of the hospital so i'm thinking UiSYI_m3bwy-00398-00090592-00090726 i'm gonna do the right thing and i'm UiSYI_m3bwy-00399-00090727-00091575 gonna help him UiSYI_m3bwy-00400-00091576-00091862 no you do not do not pull that plug UiSYI_m3bwy-00401-00091863-00092038 do not UiSYI_m3bwy-00402-00092039-00092487 i repeat do not pull the plug brooklyn UiSYI_m3bwy-00403-00092488-00092623 and i'm gonna i'm gonna end his UiSYI_m3bwy-00404-00092624-00092855 suffering and pull the plug so i do any UiSYI_m3bwy-00405-00092856-00093015 flat lines and all the nurses come UiSYI_m3bwy-00406-00093016-00093174 running into the room and i just say UiSYI_m3bwy-00407-00093175-00093318 that i tripped on the power cord and UiSYI_m3bwy-00408-00093319-00093518 they believe me and then come to find UiSYI_m3bwy-00409-00093519-00093743 out what did he leave me in his will a UiSYI_m3bwy-00410-00093744-00093967 sofa can you believe that i killed my i UiSYI_m3bwy-00411-00093968-00094223 mean i helped my grandfather go to UiSYI_m3bwy-00412-00094224-00094455 heaven or hell probably if all he left UiSYI_m3bwy-00413-00094456-00094687 me was a sofa hey you know what kid ask UiSYI_m3bwy-00414-00094688-00094879 your dad if my grandfather's in hell UiSYI_m3bwy-00415-00094880-00095143 okay thank you see there you go he's UiSYI_m3bwy-00416-00095144-00095374 helping me by asking if my grandfather's UiSYI_m3bwy-00417-00095375-00095535 in hell alright so we've covered two UiSYI_m3bwy-00418-00095536-00095759 already manners and helping people we UiSYI_m3bwy-00419-00095760-00095918 just have one more left to cover now UiSYI_m3bwy-00420-00095919-00096079 does anyone want to guess what that is UiSYI_m3bwy-00421-00096080-00096431 starting fire eating people's faces UiSYI_m3bwy-00422-00096432-00096694 total annihilation picking your nose and UiSYI_m3bwy-00423-00096695-00096999 eating it no to all of that because most UiSYI_m3bwy-00424-00097000-00097231 of those were crimes and the third one UiSYI_m3bwy-00425-00097232-00097543 is don't do crimes okay now crimes is UiSYI_m3bwy-00426-00097544-00097759 stuff like killing people stealing UiSYI_m3bwy-00427-00097760-00097903 things UiSYI_m3bwy-00428-00097904-00098206 yes setting things on fire is a crime UiSYI_m3bwy-00429-00098207-00098399 and what i did to my grandfather was a UiSYI_m3bwy-00430-00098400-00098623 crime and so is what i will do to you if UiSYI_m3bwy-00431-00098624-00098823 you tell anyone you heard that all right UiSYI_m3bwy-00432-00098824-00098982 so now we're gonna have a test that will UiSYI_m3bwy-00433-00098983-00099191 make you have to use all three of the be UiSYI_m3bwy-00434-00099192-00099399 good rules okay and you have to pass UiSYI_m3bwy-00435-00099400-00099679 this test to not go to jail but first UiSYI_m3bwy-00436-00099680-00099862 i'm going to have a lunch break and eat UiSYI_m3bwy-00437-00099863-00100167 my very big foot long imaginary sandwich UiSYI_m3bwy-00438-00100168-00100871 i just hope it's not too big um UiSYI_m3bwy-00439-00100872-00101087 he's joking we have to do something UiSYI_m3bwy-00440-00101088-00101303 roger set him on fire while he's choking UiSYI_m3bwy-00441-00101304-00101487 we should eat his face and we choke too UiSYI_m3bwy-00442-00101488-00101711 let's just watch does he have a wallet UiSYI_m3bwy-00443-00101712-00102238 i'm coming to help you UiSYI_m3bwy-00444-00102239-00102486 jeffy you saved me thank you you're UiSYI_m3bwy-00445-00102488-00102775 welcome c-class that was it that was the UiSYI_m3bwy-00446-00102776-00102999 test jeffy passed because he did all UiSYI_m3bwy-00447-00103000-00103206 three of the be good rules he helped me UiSYI_m3bwy-00448-00103207-00103406 when i needed it i said thank you and he UiSYI_m3bwy-00449-00103407-00103575 said you're welcome so that's manners UiSYI_m3bwy-00450-00103576-00103790 and he didn't commit any crimes like the UiSYI_m3bwy-00451-00103791-00104006 rest of you did by not helping me UiSYI_m3bwy-00452-00104007-00104158 because that was the crime of criminal UiSYI_m3bwy-00453-00104159-00104366 negligence so jeffy is the only one UiSYI_m3bwy-00454-00104367-00104815 who's not going to jail UiSYI_m3bwy-00455-00104816-00104975 so how do you think jeffy's be good UiSYI_m3bwy-00456-00104976-00105190 school is going i think it's going to be UiSYI_m3bwy-00457-00105191-00105271 bad UiSYI_m3bwy-00458-00105272-00105415 you know because it's called be good so UiSYI_m3bwy-00459-00105416-00105575 he's going to be bad UiSYI_m3bwy-00460-00105576-00105863 be bad yes like be bad like hey guess UiSYI_m3bwy-00461-00105864-00106158 what i'm passed you passed sure did yep UiSYI_m3bwy-00462-00106159-00106390 he saved my imaginary life you know most UiSYI_m3bwy-00463-00106391-00106543 students don't save my life whenever i UiSYI_m3bwy-00464-00106544-00106719 choke on the imaginary sandwich but your UiSYI_m3bwy-00465-00106720-00106886 son did so he passed he learned how to UiSYI_m3bwy-00466-00106888-00107054 be good he learned his manners he UiSYI_m3bwy-00467-00107055-00107190 learned that he should help people he UiSYI_m3bwy-00468-00107191-00107390 learned not to do crimes and he learned UiSYI_m3bwy-00469-00107391-00107534 that he should get me my ranch at UiSYI_m3bwy-00470-00107535-00107686 applebee's so does that make up for the UiSYI_m3bwy-00471-00107688-00107943 hawaiian punch um UiSYI_m3bwy-00472-00107944-00108175 i forgot about that before now all right UiSYI_m3bwy-00473-00108176-00108319 listen kid you better hope i never have UiSYI_m3bwy-00474-00108320-00108519 to see you again well jeffy look at UiSYI_m3bwy-00475-00108520-00108654 least you passed you're not going to UiSYI_m3bwy-00476-00108655-00108807 jail and we can put this whole thing UiSYI_m3bwy-00477-00108808-00109071 behind us yeah hey so i got a call from UiSYI_m3bwy-00478-00109072-00109231 a kid with an axe in his head and he UiSYI_m3bwy-00479-00109232-00109534 said you did it UiSYI_m3bwy-00480-00109535-00109702 all right we're going back come on oh UiSYI_m3bwy-00481-00109703-00109771 jeffy UiSYI_m3bwy-00482-00109772-00110263 [Music] UiSYI_m3bwy-00483-00110264-00110463 what's the question UiSYI_m3bwy-00484-00110464-00110686 come on oh jeffy UiSYI_m3bwy-00485-00110688-00110847 what is the stupidest thing you got in UiSYI_m3bwy-00486-00110848-00111063 trouble for UiSYI_m3bwy-00487-00111064-00111358 stupidest thing for not listening UiSYI_m3bwy-00488-00111359-00111751 it's not using my ears UiSYI_m3bwy-00489-00111752-00111902 yeah that's why i'm going in this video UiSYI_m3bwy-00490-00111903-00112047 be sure to subscribe your boy your boy UiSYI_m3bwy-00491-00112048-00112231 boy stay on his way on my UiSYI_m3bwy-00492-00112232-00112647 piece UiSYI_m3bwy-00493-00112648-00112895 how do i end my recording UiSYI_m3bwy-00494-00112896-00113279 do i press control shift UmAFGm0p1rE-00000-00000000-00000361 Calphalon in 19 1964 my mother then UmAFGm0p1rE-00001-00000362-00000761 cared for a literary legacy the UmAFGm0p1rE-00002-00000762-00001193 translations and publications quite a UmAFGm0p1rE-00003-00001194-00001531 few translations French Spanish and so UmAFGm0p1rE-00004-00001532-00001873 but when my mother died that UmAFGm0p1rE-00005-00001875-00002251 responsibility came to me I have no UmAFGm0p1rE-00006-00002252-00002647 brothers or sisters and nobody else and UmAFGm0p1rE-00007-00002648-00002954 so I really considered that I will now UmAFGm0p1rE-00008-00002955-00003374 concern myself with the legit literary UmAFGm0p1rE-00009-00003375-00003551 legacy of my father and I have been UmAFGm0p1rE-00010-00003552-00003704 doing that ever since UmAFGm0p1rE-00011-00003704-00004027 my mother has her own history and it is UmAFGm0p1rE-00012-00004028-00004556 a history of eminent participation in UmAFGm0p1rE-00013-00004557-00004838 the revolutions which put an end to the UmAFGm0p1rE-00014-00004839-00004969 First World War UmAFGm0p1rE-00015-00004970-00005318 1918 specifically a hungarian revolution UmAFGm0p1rE-00016-00005319-00005802 and she is known for her activities UmAFGm0p1rE-00017-00005803-00006436 there and when she died the hungarian UmAFGm0p1rE-00018-00006437-00006794 embassy in Ottawa asked whether they UmAFGm0p1rE-00019-00006795-00007267 could please buddha permit them to have UmAFGm0p1rE-00020-00007268-00007526 a funeral and give her semistate honors UmAFGm0p1rE-00021-00007527-00007864 and be buried in hungary I was totally UmAFGm0p1rE-00022-00007865-00008288 amazed at this request and I said well UmAFGm0p1rE-00023-00008289-00008738 certainly not however eventually I know UmAFGm0p1rE-00024-00008739-00009124 my mother and my father will wish to UmAFGm0p1rE-00025-00009125-00009499 rest in Budapest but first you must UmAFGm0p1rE-00026-00009500-00009842 honor Karl Polanyi as well as his wife UmAFGm0p1rE-00027-00009843-00010133 Ilona probably the best way to do that UmAFGm0p1rE-00028-00010134-00010523 is to organize some events respecting UmAFGm0p1rE-00029-00010524-00010874 his scholarly work and with much UmAFGm0p1rE-00030-00010875-00011096 negotiation this is exactly what UmAFGm0p1rE-00031-00011097-00011533 happened we managed to her to have a UmAFGm0p1rE-00032-00011534-00011935 centenary conference in 1986 that is a UmAFGm0p1rE-00033-00011936-00012101 hundred years from the birth of UmAFGm0p1rE-00034-00012102-00012445 Calphalon II by this time I had invited UmAFGm0p1rE-00035-00012446-00012767 them a former student of mine Marguerite UmAFGm0p1rE-00036-00012768-00013186 Mendel to who who who ceases was about UmAFGm0p1rE-00037-00013187-00013313 the work of carbon UmAFGm0p1rE-00038-00013315-00013603 need to work with me she assisted in UmAFGm0p1rE-00039-00013604-00013963 organizing that conference in Budapest UmAFGm0p1rE-00040-00013965-00014231 incidentally the politics were that I UmAFGm0p1rE-00041-00014232-00014453 could invite only international UmAFGm0p1rE-00042-00014454-00014841 participants but they that time would UmAFGm0p1rE-00043-00014841-00015184 invite the local Hungarian participants UmAFGm0p1rE-00044-00015185-00015633 at this meeting it was really a moment UmAFGm0p1rE-00045-00015634-00015953 of reflection and I was very conscious UmAFGm0p1rE-00046-00015954-00016467 of the rise of neoliberalism and in its UmAFGm0p1rE-00047-00016468-00016743 worst manifestation this was the era of UmAFGm0p1rE-00048-00016744-00017058 Thatcher and Reagan respectively UmAFGm0p1rE-00049-00017059-00017328 implementing those kind of policies UmAFGm0p1rE-00050-00017329-00017606 abolishing progressive taxation and all UmAFGm0p1rE-00051-00017607-00017805 the rest of them you know what they are UmAFGm0p1rE-00052-00017806-00018222 and said how can we continue this this UmAFGm0p1rE-00053-00018223-00018575 can't be a one on one once only UmAFGm0p1rE-00054-00018576-00019041 countries and maji Mandela undertook to UmAFGm0p1rE-00055-00019042-00019303 propose to her university at Concordia UmAFGm0p1rE-00056-00019304-00019661 whether they would consider hosting an UmAFGm0p1rE-00057-00019662-00020061 institute and that is what happened and UmAFGm0p1rE-00058-00020062-00020403 they sold that Institute was set up at UmAFGm0p1rE-00059-00020404-00020555 Concordia University UmAFGm0p1rE-00060-00020556-00021177 I made available on a loan basis the UmAFGm0p1rE-00061-00021178-00021728 document and many years later I think in UmAFGm0p1rE-00062-00021729-00022286 2017 I decided to donate this collection UmAFGm0p1rE-00063-00022287-00022661 to Concordia it was a very nice event UmAFGm0p1rE-00064-00022662-00023046 and I there is a video in which I UmAFGm0p1rE-00065-00023047-00023372 explain why I donated it not too hungry UmAFGm0p1rE-00066-00023373-00023658 or not to be Anna and not to McGill but UmAFGm0p1rE-00067-00023659-00024128 to Concordia and incidentally it is a UmAFGm0p1rE-00068-00024129-00024506 made illegal provision in that donation UmAFGm0p1rE-00069-00024507-00024936 that they would continue to support the UmAFGm0p1rE-00070-00024937-00025167 Institute for another ten year for at UmAFGm0p1rE-00071-00025168-00025305 least ten years UmAFGm0p1rE-00072-00025306-00025593 so we have that it's but other than that UmAFGm0p1rE-00073-00025594-00026102 I have no position no formal position in UmAFGm0p1rE-00074-00026103-00026298 the Institute UmAFGm0p1rE-00075-00026299-00026820 people assume that because I grew up in UmAFGm0p1rE-00076-00026820-00027074 this home and with always a close UmAFGm0p1rE-00077-00027075-00027282 relationship with my father and a UmAFGm0p1rE-00078-00027283-00027354 personable UmAFGm0p1rE-00079-00027355-00027620 we always had with both of my parents a UmAFGm0p1rE-00080-00027622-00027839 good relationship that I learned UmAFGm0p1rE-00081-00027841-00028121 something since I was so high for my UmAFGm0p1rE-00082-00028122-00028370 father the follow in his footsteps of UmAFGm0p1rE-00083-00028372-00028587 course that really is not how it UmAFGm0p1rE-00084-00028588-00028640 happened UmAFGm0p1rE-00085-00028641-00028839 I must have read the great UmAFGm0p1rE-00086-00028839-00029177 transformation but it was not the kind UmAFGm0p1rE-00087-00029178-00029562 of revealing event that it was for many UmAFGm0p1rE-00088-00029563-00029937 other people I really began to UmAFGm0p1rE-00089-00029938-00030270 appreciate my father's work much more UmAFGm0p1rE-00090-00030270-00030639 from the time from the 1980s on that UmAFGm0p1rE-00091-00030639-00030858 partly because I became much more UmAFGm0p1rE-00092-00030858-00031131 familiar with it but it is also because UmAFGm0p1rE-00093-00031132-00031574 I think the times let us see for all the UmAFGm0p1rE-00094-00031575-00031811 same reasons that many other UmAFGm0p1rE-00095-00031812-00032139 intellectuals within the social sciences UmAFGm0p1rE-00096-00032139-00032373 or in other areas have come to UmAFGm0p1rE-00097-00032374-00032702 appreciate the work of Karl Polanyi I UmAFGm0p1rE-00098-00032702-00033180 joined them in that appreciation this UmAFGm0p1rE-00099-00033181-00033405 book is a collection of essays that were UmAFGm0p1rE-00100-00033406-00033645 assemble them put between two covers as UmAFGm0p1rE-00101-00033646-00034281 a book in 2013 and by that time I really UmAFGm0p1rE-00102-00034282-00034802 had noticed that the the growth of the UmAFGm0p1rE-00103-00034803-00035127 financial sector finance insurance real UmAFGm0p1rE-00104-00035128-00035502 estate within the economies of the UmAFGm0p1rE-00105-00035503-00035915 advanced countries was disturbing UmAFGm0p1rE-00106-00035916-00036186 clothes of various kinds of financial UmAFGm0p1rE-00107-00036187-00036495 assets including derivatives of original UmAFGm0p1rE-00108-00036496-00037162 assets and so forth was was of a scale UmAFGm0p1rE-00109-00037163-00037593 that was I think significant and that is UmAFGm0p1rE-00110-00037594-00037898 why I coined this phrase of great UmAFGm0p1rE-00111-00037899-00038189 financialization I think since that time UmAFGm0p1rE-00112-00038190-00038552 it has become increasingly recognized in UmAFGm0p1rE-00113-00038553-00039227 as the hotel reports of 20 18 17 and 18 UmAFGm0p1rE-00114-00039228-00039603 pointed out that the global economy is UmAFGm0p1rE-00115-00039604-00040083 driven by global finance know that to UmAFGm0p1rE-00116-00040084-00040389 quote it is not trade or technology but UmAFGm0p1rE-00117-00040390-00040641 rather finance and I'm quoting more or UmAFGm0p1rE-00118-00040642-00040911 less from the Intel report that has been UmAFGm0p1rE-00119-00040912-00041220 driving the world the global economy for UmAFGm0p1rE-00120-00041221-00041487 the past three decades quote unquote UmAFGm0p1rE-00121-00041488-00041921 now when I find that word I was not UmAFGm0p1rE-00122-00041922-00042411 aware I think of the significance of UmAFGm0p1rE-00123-00042412-00042641 having coined this phrase of great UmAFGm0p1rE-00124-00042642-00042861 financialization it is interested UmAFGm0p1rE-00125-00042862-00043338 because what this is doing it it's in in UmAFGm0p1rE-00126-00043339-00043787 my view it has for instance destroyed UmAFGm0p1rE-00127-00043788-00044205 the what used to be the classic American UmAFGm0p1rE-00128-00044206-00044520 corporation classic American corporation UmAFGm0p1rE-00129-00044521-00045081 used to produce products and and and UmAFGm0p1rE-00130-00045082-00045503 sell them on an ever-increasing scale UmAFGm0p1rE-00131-00045504-00045933 it's incidentally employed a lot of UmAFGm0p1rE-00132-00045934-00046281 people and incidentally satisfied a lot UmAFGm0p1rE-00133-00046282-00046688 of consumers that was a classic UmAFGm0p1rE-00134-00046689-00046992 consolation of the 1950's sixties or UmAFGm0p1rE-00135-00046993-00047298 seventies but increasingly this has UmAFGm0p1rE-00136-00047299-00047652 become financialized increasingly these UmAFGm0p1rE-00137-00047653-00048315 shareholders are financial conglomerates UmAFGm0p1rE-00138-00048316-00048510 the various kinds pension funds UmAFGm0p1rE-00139-00048511-00048789 investment funds other kinds of UmAFGm0p1rE-00140-00048790-00049119 financial funds and it has has come with UmAFGm0p1rE-00141-00049120-00049380 the amongst maximizing of shareholder UmAFGm0p1rE-00142-00049381-00049743 value as as the metric of success herbal UmAFGm0p1rE-00143-00049744-00049917 conservation what could be more UmAFGm0p1rE-00144-00049918-00050235 financial than that and it has had that UmAFGm0p1rE-00145-00050236-00050499 effect of financial icing the UmAFGm0p1rE-00146-00050500-00050844 cooperation but it goes beyond that as UmAFGm0p1rE-00147-00050845-00051237 Palani explained it will if an economy UmAFGm0p1rE-00148-00051238-00051812 is driving the society the society then UmAFGm0p1rE-00149-00051813-00052321 reflects and that our societies our UmAFGm0p1rE-00150-00052322-00052560 households they become financial eyes UmAFGm0p1rE-00151-00052561-00052916 the degree to which yes households are UmAFGm0p1rE-00152-00052917-00052994 dependent UmAFGm0p1rE-00153-00052995-00053404 on Finance tensions are no longer the UmAFGm0p1rE-00154-00053405-00053932 best on some average of the last year's UmAFGm0p1rE-00155-00053933-00054179 incomes they're based on the earnings of UmAFGm0p1rE-00156-00054179-00054410 the pension funds with all its ups and UmAFGm0p1rE-00157-00054411-00054730 downs we know about all the same UmAFGm0p1rE-00158-00054732-00055022 mortgage indebtedness and student loans UmAFGm0p1rE-00159-00055023-00055211 and all the rest of it without going UmAFGm0p1rE-00160-00055212-00055456 into detail the fact is that whether UmAFGm0p1rE-00161-00055457-00055796 it's the non-financial corporation or UmAFGm0p1rE-00162-00055797-00056029 whether it is the household sector of UmAFGm0p1rE-00163-00056030-00056240 the economy they have become UmAFGm0p1rE-00164-00056241-00056518 increasingly financial assistance and we UmAFGm0p1rE-00165-00056519-00056776 come to the government's and one of the UmAFGm0p1rE-00166-00056777-00057169 problems particularly noticeable in UmAFGm0p1rE-00167-00057170-00057404 Europe is the degree national UmAFGm0p1rE-00168-00057404-00057641 governments have become dependent on the UmAFGm0p1rE-00169-00057641-00057923 bond markets and in the case of Europe UmAFGm0p1rE-00170-00057924-00058129 they don't even say can't even print UmAFGm0p1rE-00171-00058130-00058322 their own money anymore they have the UmAFGm0p1rE-00172-00058323-00058361 Euro UmAFGm0p1rE-00173-00058362-00058997 you have an economy that is increasingly UmAFGm0p1rE-00174-00058998-00059312 as I say financialized in a society that UmAFGm0p1rE-00175-00059313-00059741 is increasingly short term news and that UmAFGm0p1rE-00176-00059741-00059921 goes along with the information UmAFGm0p1rE-00177-00059922-00060338 technology and business with the UmAFGm0p1rE-00178-00060339-00060663 consumerism and the shortest desire UmAFGm0p1rE-00179-00060664-00061046 somehow of young people particularly to UmAFGm0p1rE-00180-00061047-00061322 have immediate results but not young UmAFGm0p1rE-00181-00061323-00061513 people only for everything to be UmAFGm0p1rE-00182-00061514-00061988 immediate and that is in my view there UmAFGm0p1rE-00183-00061989-00062539 is closely related to financialization VoUZMSC6P0M-00000-00000056-00000214 so thank you all for joining us today on VoUZMSC6P0M-00001-00000215-00000366 our interfaith project today we're here VoUZMSC6P0M-00002-00000367-00000455 with aaron VoUZMSC6P0M-00003-00000456-00000638 schaffer wallop that was awesome oh VoUZMSC6P0M-00004-00000639-00000815 perfect thank you very much aaron VoUZMSC6P0M-00005-00000816-00001031 uh erin would you just care to introduce VoUZMSC6P0M-00006-00001032-00001135 yourself and like talk a little bit VoUZMSC6P0M-00007-00001136-00001303 about yourself and stuff like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00008-00001304-00001726 yeah i uh grew up mostly in ohio i VoUZMSC6P0M-00009-00001727-00002007 ended up in utah today i am a full-time VoUZMSC6P0M-00010-00002007-00002183 computer programmer VoUZMSC6P0M-00011-00002184-00002367 i'm also a co-pastor at the mission VoUZMSC6P0M-00012-00002368-00002623 church in south jordan VoUZMSC6P0M-00013-00002624-00002942 and i've got three kids and i'm also VoUZMSC6P0M-00014-00002943-00003286 an evangelist which uh that we VoUZMSC6P0M-00015-00003288-00003503 we by that term mean uh maybe somebody VoUZMSC6P0M-00016-00003504-00003590 who's doing VoUZMSC6P0M-00017-00003592-00003919 proselytism especially to strangers so VoUZMSC6P0M-00018-00003920-00004063 yeah kind of like what we would call VoUZMSC6P0M-00019-00004064-00004206 missionary work in our church and stuff VoUZMSC6P0M-00020-00004207-00004263 like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00021-00004264-00004591 yeah i am a evangelical VoUZMSC6P0M-00022-00004592-00004791 christian you might call us born again VoUZMSC6P0M-00023-00004792-00004967 or protestant VoUZMSC6P0M-00024-00004968-00005302 part of the larger family of historic VoUZMSC6P0M-00025-00005303-00005535 protestant churches so it's a pretty big VoUZMSC6P0M-00026-00005536-00005663 big umbrella VoUZMSC6P0M-00027-00005664-00005895 so yeah that's really cool do you think VoUZMSC6P0M-00028-00005896-00006022 you could like explain to us some of VoUZMSC6P0M-00029-00006023-00006183 your basic beliefs VoUZMSC6P0M-00030-00006184-00006559 yeah uh i think um to start with we VoUZMSC6P0M-00031-00006559-00006839 take the bible as our foundation so the VoUZMSC6P0M-00032-00006840-00006991 protestant project if you will VoUZMSC6P0M-00033-00006992-00007351 is to um look at the bible as closely as VoUZMSC6P0M-00034-00007352-00007446 we can VoUZMSC6P0M-00035-00007447-00007751 with god's help by the holy spirit and VoUZMSC6P0M-00036-00007752-00008039 believe as much as we possibly can and VoUZMSC6P0M-00037-00008040-00008207 submit to all of it VoUZMSC6P0M-00038-00008208-00008455 because it's all of god's it's it is all VoUZMSC6P0M-00039-00008456-00008551 god's word VoUZMSC6P0M-00040-00008552-00008855 it's without error it's god breathed VoUZMSC6P0M-00041-00008856-00009078 so we want to believe every word of it VoUZMSC6P0M-00042-00009079-00009231 and obey it and VoUZMSC6P0M-00043-00009232-00009463 harmonize it as best as we can and from VoUZMSC6P0M-00044-00009464-00009623 that we VoUZMSC6P0M-00045-00009624-00009887 we hold the classic christian view of VoUZMSC6P0M-00046-00009888-00010031 the trinity of VoUZMSC6P0M-00047-00010032-00010431 one god three persons in relationship VoUZMSC6P0M-00048-00010432-00010655 uh they're distinct persons who love VoUZMSC6P0M-00049-00010656-00010814 each other and they've always been in VoUZMSC6P0M-00050-00010815-00010974 this love relationship VoUZMSC6P0M-00051-00010975-00011206 as one being they never shook hands and VoUZMSC6P0M-00052-00011207-00011319 met each other they never had to meet VoUZMSC6P0M-00053-00011320-00011438 each other they never had to start a VoUZMSC6P0M-00054-00011439-00011535 relationship VoUZMSC6P0M-00055-00011536-00011719 and probably the third pillar there VoUZMSC6P0M-00056-00011720-00011895 would be VoUZMSC6P0M-00057-00011896-00012167 grace is that because jesus came and VoUZMSC6P0M-00058-00012168-00012359 died on the cross for our sins VoUZMSC6P0M-00059-00012360-00012646 and paid the final penalty price for our VoUZMSC6P0M-00060-00012647-00012710 sins VoUZMSC6P0M-00061-00012711-00013071 on the cross people who VoUZMSC6P0M-00062-00013072-00013222 who believe that he has risen from the VoUZMSC6P0M-00063-00013223-00013375 dead but he's the he's the real deal VoUZMSC6P0M-00064-00013376-00013575 he's lord he's king he paid VoUZMSC6P0M-00065-00013576-00013879 for our sins he said it is finished VoUZMSC6P0M-00066-00013880-00014071 uh he paid the full penalty people who VoUZMSC6P0M-00067-00014072-00014238 believe that jesus did that and they and VoUZMSC6P0M-00068-00014240-00014503 they trust him VoUZMSC6P0M-00069-00014504-00014694 can immediate immediately receive the VoUZMSC6P0M-00070-00014695-00014903 complete forgiveness of all their sins VoUZMSC6P0M-00071-00014904-00015086 and have an inside out change where you VoUZMSC6P0M-00072-00015087-00015294 have a new relationship with god VoUZMSC6P0M-00073-00015295-00015630 you fight for holiness you hate your sin VoUZMSC6P0M-00074-00015631-00015943 you want to kill the the evil desires VoUZMSC6P0M-00075-00015944-00016158 inside of you and grow in holiness VoUZMSC6P0M-00076-00016159-00016350 and attach yourself to other believers VoUZMSC6P0M-00077-00016351-00016503 and uh VoUZMSC6P0M-00078-00016504-00016743 and then and when we die we it's like we VoUZMSC6P0M-00079-00016744-00016903 have a backstage pass VoUZMSC6P0M-00080-00016904-00017039 when we die we're going to go and be VoUZMSC6P0M-00081-00017040-00017222 with god forever VoUZMSC6P0M-00082-00017223-00017479 um with his people forever so long VoUZMSC6P0M-00083-00017480-00017527 answer VoUZMSC6P0M-00084-00017528-00017686 oh that's honestly perfect i thought VoUZMSC6P0M-00085-00017687-00017822 those beliefs were very beautiful and VoUZMSC6P0M-00086-00017823-00017927 very awesome VoUZMSC6P0M-00087-00017928-00018079 and as you know like as members of the VoUZMSC6P0M-00088-00018080-00018239 church jesus christ larry saints we VoUZMSC6P0M-00089-00018240-00018414 believe that you know god is the father VoUZMSC6P0M-00090-00018415-00018663 and jesus christ is the son of god and VoUZMSC6P0M-00091-00018664-00018799 you know the holy ghost is the third VoUZMSC6P0M-00092-00018800-00018958 member of the godhead we believe that VoUZMSC6P0M-00093-00018959-00019086 you know the book of mormon is the word VoUZMSC6P0M-00094-00019087-00019214 of god along with the bible and they're VoUZMSC6P0M-00095-00019215-00019358 meant to be used together and stuff like VoUZMSC6P0M-00096-00019359-00019414 that VoUZMSC6P0M-00097-00019415-00019543 but one thing i love there is you're VoUZMSC6P0M-00098-00019544-00019727 talking on grace and like the grace of VoUZMSC6P0M-00099-00019728-00019807 jesus christ VoUZMSC6P0M-00100-00019808-00020022 and stuff like that because we believe VoUZMSC6P0M-00101-00020023-00020143 the same thing we believe like through VoUZMSC6P0M-00102-00020144-00020319 the atonement of jesus christ and VoUZMSC6P0M-00103-00020320-00020455 and through the grace that he's given us VoUZMSC6P0M-00104-00020456-00020655 we can also return with god again we can VoUZMSC6P0M-00105-00020656-00020719 also VoUZMSC6P0M-00106-00020720-00020871 enter heaven and stuff like that by VoUZMSC6P0M-00107-00020872-00020999 accepting his atonement and doing the VoUZMSC6P0M-00108-00021000-00021167 things he has asked us to do VoUZMSC6P0M-00109-00021168-00021430 so i find that really beautiful yeah it VoUZMSC6P0M-00110-00021431-00021583 seems like from our discussions VoUZMSC6P0M-00111-00021584-00021886 elsewhere when that gets parsed out VoUZMSC6P0M-00112-00021887-00022207 and like teased out and sifted out that VoUZMSC6P0M-00113-00022208-00022455 the differences are pretty substantial VoUZMSC6P0M-00114-00022456-00022599 in terms of the world view VoUZMSC6P0M-00115-00022600-00022767 worldview is a really cool term it VoUZMSC6P0M-00116-00022768-00022919 refers to how you see that the big VoUZMSC6P0M-00117-00022920-00022975 picture VoUZMSC6P0M-00118-00022976-00023167 and the in the uh all the parts and how VoUZMSC6P0M-00119-00023168-00023335 they fit together and when we look at VoUZMSC6P0M-00120-00023336-00023430 like who god is VoUZMSC6P0M-00121-00023431-00023663 what our purpose is what our nature is VoUZMSC6P0M-00122-00023664-00023871 and where we're going where we came from VoUZMSC6P0M-00123-00023872-00024175 um grace in our worldview VoUZMSC6P0M-00124-00024176-00024422 if this helps it's like grace is meant VoUZMSC6P0M-00125-00024423-00024478 to VoUZMSC6P0M-00126-00024479-00024814 show off god's mercy and so VoUZMSC6P0M-00127-00024815-00025055 we can't we because of grace i can't VoUZMSC6P0M-00128-00025056-00025222 boast in myself VoUZMSC6P0M-00129-00025223-00025414 i can't pretend like i'm worthy or VoUZMSC6P0M-00130-00025415-00025535 qualified VoUZMSC6P0M-00131-00025536-00025743 or good enough or you know religiously VoUZMSC6P0M-00132-00025744-00025878 performing enough VoUZMSC6P0M-00133-00025879-00026214 um the gift that i'm given is eternal VoUZMSC6P0M-00134-00026216-00026279 life and VoUZMSC6P0M-00135-00026280-00026687 full forgiveness of sins and um i've VoUZMSC6P0M-00136-00026688-00026918 maybe this language might help every VoUZMSC6P0M-00137-00026919-00027079 christian has available to them VoUZMSC6P0M-00138-00027080-00027358 in the immediate moment but merely by VoUZMSC6P0M-00139-00027360-00027446 weak VoUZMSC6P0M-00140-00027447-00027695 but genuine faith to have their calling VoUZMSC6P0M-00141-00027695-00027846 and election major VoUZMSC6P0M-00142-00027847-00028031 uh it's it's as though they have their VoUZMSC6P0M-00143-00028032-00028183 second anointing it's as though VoUZMSC6P0M-00144-00028183-00028318 if they were to die that moment they're VoUZMSC6P0M-00145-00028319-00028607 going to be in the very presence of god VoUZMSC6P0M-00146-00028608-00028814 and be with him forever so that's a VoUZMSC6P0M-00147-00028816-00029031 benefit i have even apart from any VoUZMSC6P0M-00148-00029032-00029367 ritual or even apart from having VoUZMSC6P0M-00149-00029368-00029631 have proven my worthiness or anything VoUZMSC6P0M-00150-00029632-00029751 anything like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00151-00029752-00029943 yeah and honestly like that that's VoUZMSC6P0M-00152-00029944-00030127 really awesome that you have that faith VoUZMSC6P0M-00153-00030127-00030302 in christ and that you you want to be VoUZMSC6P0M-00154-00030303-00030470 close with jesus christ won't do things VoUZMSC6P0M-00155-00030472-00030590 he would have you do like VoUZMSC6P0M-00156-00030591-00030902 that's a beautiful wonderful thing now VoUZMSC6P0M-00157-00030903-00031070 to start off with this interview we just VoUZMSC6P0M-00158-00031072-00031223 have a couple questions for you VoUZMSC6P0M-00159-00031224-00031431 thanks uh sorry my phone is having some VoUZMSC6P0M-00160-00031432-00031590 slight struggles it's all good VoUZMSC6P0M-00161-00031591-00031751 yeah how do you how do you pronounce VoUZMSC6P0M-00162-00031752-00031895 your last name uh chalmers VoUZMSC6P0M-00163-00031895-00032207 chalmers yeah good job so the first VoUZMSC6P0M-00164-00032208-00032351 question is in VoUZMSC6P0M-00165-00032352-00032535 the most recent poll in the u.s VoUZMSC6P0M-00166-00032536-00032687 religious landscape VoUZMSC6P0M-00167-00032688-00032871 suggests that over the past couple of VoUZMSC6P0M-00168-00032872-00033087 decades significantly fewer people VoUZMSC6P0M-00169-00033088-00033231 identify as christian VoUZMSC6P0M-00170-00033232-00033383 and that the church attendance among VoUZMSC6P0M-00171-00033384-00033535 those who identify as christian has been VoUZMSC6P0M-00172-00033536-00033702 decreasing to a point VoUZMSC6P0M-00173-00033703-00034015 that more people do not attend church VoUZMSC6P0M-00174-00034016-00034215 more than once a year other than like VoUZMSC6P0M-00175-00034216-00034399 weddings funerals etc VoUZMSC6P0M-00176-00034400-00034767 uh than those who attend regularly what VoUZMSC6P0M-00177-00034768-00034887 do you think are like the social VoUZMSC6P0M-00178-00034888-00035079 implications of this trend and VoUZMSC6P0M-00179-00035080-00035215 how this is going when you say VoUZMSC6P0M-00180-00035216-00035423 implications do you mean like cause or VoUZMSC6P0M-00181-00035424-00035615 like consequences yeah like consequences VoUZMSC6P0M-00182-00035616-00035735 that's what i mean VoUZMSC6P0M-00183-00035736-00036062 um i think people have a hole inside VoUZMSC6P0M-00184-00036063-00036279 their soul that they need to fill VoUZMSC6P0M-00185-00036280-00036583 with god and god is the only key that VoUZMSC6P0M-00186-00036584-00036687 will fit it's the only VoUZMSC6P0M-00187-00036688-00036935 the only one who can really satisfy what VoUZMSC6P0M-00188-00036936-00037023 we're made for VoUZMSC6P0M-00189-00037024-00037174 and so when people give up on god and VoUZMSC6P0M-00190-00037175-00037327 they give up on jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00191-00037328-00037423 they're going to try to fill that hole VoUZMSC6P0M-00192-00037424-00037607 with something and i think the VoUZMSC6P0M-00193-00037608-00037815 consequence will be that people will try VoUZMSC6P0M-00194-00037816-00037967 to VoUZMSC6P0M-00195-00037968-00038079 even if they don't see it as a new VoUZMSC6P0M-00196-00038080-00038287 religion they're going to try to VoUZMSC6P0M-00197-00038288-00038487 seek out some new form of spirituality VoUZMSC6P0M-00198-00038488-00038662 or new religion that might be politics VoUZMSC6P0M-00199-00038663-00038751 that might be VoUZMSC6P0M-00200-00038752-00039111 like modern progressive ideas of being VoUZMSC6P0M-00201-00039112-00039383 woke that might be VoUZMSC6P0M-00202-00039384-00039623 might be your your favorite dietary fad VoUZMSC6P0M-00203-00039624-00039718 if people try to VoUZMSC6P0M-00204-00039719-00039855 seize on something that makes them feel VoUZMSC6P0M-00205-00039856-00039983 like they have a purpose or something VoUZMSC6P0M-00206-00039984-00040062 like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00207-00040063-00040223 but i think the consequence ultimately VoUZMSC6P0M-00208-00040224-00040430 will be a downward spiral VoUZMSC6P0M-00209-00040431-00040646 um and the the reason i believe that is VoUZMSC6P0M-00210-00040647-00040735 um VoUZMSC6P0M-00211-00040736-00041102 the the fruit of VoUZMSC6P0M-00212-00041103-00041479 of uh true spirituality and the fruit of VoUZMSC6P0M-00213-00041480-00041799 satisfaction in god it can't be severed VoUZMSC6P0M-00214-00041800-00041879 from VoUZMSC6P0M-00215-00041880-00042302 christ so when people cut off that route VoUZMSC6P0M-00216-00042303-00042502 i think society eventually starts to VoUZMSC6P0M-00217-00042503-00042639 disintegrate VoUZMSC6P0M-00218-00042640-00042927 and uh it they burn out and it's pretty VoUZMSC6P0M-00219-00042928-00042990 terrible VoUZMSC6P0M-00220-00042991-00043302 yeah i i agree like we believe in you VoUZMSC6P0M-00221-00043303-00043374 know VoUZMSC6P0M-00222-00043375-00043527 you have you have faith by works and you VoUZMSC6P0M-00223-00043528-00043687 also we also believe that VoUZMSC6P0M-00224-00043688-00043823 we need to love one another and stuff VoUZMSC6P0M-00225-00043824-00043927 like that so when you lose that VoUZMSC6P0M-00226-00043928-00044102 foundation with christ when you lose VoUZMSC6P0M-00227-00044103-00044255 that relationship with him and stuff VoUZMSC6P0M-00228-00044256-00044358 like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00229-00044359-00044535 you like you lose joy like you have VoUZMSC6P0M-00230-00044536-00044662 temporary happiness but you don't have VoUZMSC6P0M-00231-00044663-00044855 like lasting or eternal joy or anything VoUZMSC6P0M-00232-00044856-00044951 like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00233-00044952-00045079 so i can definitely see what you're VoUZMSC6P0M-00234-00045080-00045246 saying there of like the importance of VoUZMSC6P0M-00235-00045247-00045302 religion VoUZMSC6P0M-00236-00045303-00045423 and it's actually cool because he VoUZMSC6P0M-00237-00045424-00045599 answered our second question which was VoUZMSC6P0M-00238-00045600-00045735 uh people are saying they're more VoUZMSC6P0M-00239-00045736-00045895 spiritual and stuff like that and VoUZMSC6P0M-00240-00045896-00046230 your thoughts on that and like oh so VoUZMSC6P0M-00241-00046231-00046358 what are your thoughts on being VoUZMSC6P0M-00242-00046359-00046599 spiritual just to reiterate VoUZMSC6P0M-00243-00046600-00046927 so true spirituality is only found in VoUZMSC6P0M-00244-00046928-00047023 christ VoUZMSC6P0M-00245-00047024-00047183 everything else will be empty everything VoUZMSC6P0M-00246-00047184-00047551 else will be ultimately unsatisfying VoUZMSC6P0M-00247-00047552-00047758 idols always let us down and if we don't VoUZMSC6P0M-00248-00047759-00047886 have the true jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00249-00047887-00048143 then we have an idol and an idol always VoUZMSC6P0M-00250-00048144-00048215 breaks our heart VoUZMSC6P0M-00251-00048216-00048479 it always lets us down it ends up VoUZMSC6P0M-00252-00048480-00048590 destroying us so VoUZMSC6P0M-00253-00048591-00048943 true spirituality i don't think anyone VoUZMSC6P0M-00254-00048944-00049111 on earth can have that ultimately apart VoUZMSC6P0M-00255-00049112-00049158 from VoUZMSC6P0M-00256-00049159-00049374 having a relationship with jesus christ VoUZMSC6P0M-00257-00049375-00049639 and having their sins freely forgiven VoUZMSC6P0M-00258-00049640-00049751 but when it comes to generic VoUZMSC6P0M-00259-00049752-00049935 spirituality this is really interesting VoUZMSC6P0M-00260-00049936-00050095 because i've had atheist friends VoUZMSC6P0M-00261-00050096-00050358 that are really excited about reducing VoUZMSC6P0M-00262-00050359-00050518 everything down to nature VoUZMSC6P0M-00263-00050519-00050671 that's all there is is the material VoUZMSC6P0M-00264-00050672-00050823 parts and there's VoUZMSC6P0M-00265-00050824-00051223 the laws of physics and um VoUZMSC6P0M-00266-00051224-00051566 it's uh it's really interesting that VoUZMSC6P0M-00267-00051567-00051846 someone who says that there's no god and VoUZMSC6P0M-00268-00051847-00051975 there's no VoUZMSC6P0M-00269-00051976-00052287 ultimate objective right or wrong no VoUZMSC6P0M-00270-00052288-00052559 objectively aesthetic beauty um and VoUZMSC6P0M-00271-00052560-00052830 there's no like intrinsic human value VoUZMSC6P0M-00272-00052832-00052975 there's no ultimate purpose to life VoUZMSC6P0M-00273-00052976-00053271 excuse me the ultimate purpose to life VoUZMSC6P0M-00274-00053272-00053526 they say that but then they go and they VoUZMSC6P0M-00275-00053527-00053679 live as though VoUZMSC6P0M-00276-00053679-00053926 their naturalism isn't true they they VoUZMSC6P0M-00277-00053927-00054103 get really upset about VoUZMSC6P0M-00278-00054104-00054350 uh politics for example because they VoUZMSC6P0M-00279-00054351-00054479 have this VoUZMSC6P0M-00280-00054479-00054726 inner instinct that we ought to treat VoUZMSC6P0M-00281-00054727-00054799 each other a certain VoUZMSC6P0M-00282-00054800-00054999 way or that human beings really are VoUZMSC6P0M-00283-00055000-00055166 deserving of dignity and value and VoUZMSC6P0M-00284-00055167-00055271 respect so VoUZMSC6P0M-00285-00055272-00055382 i guess what i'm trying to say is that VoUZMSC6P0M-00286-00055383-00055599 people are like inescapably spiritual VoUZMSC6P0M-00287-00055600-00055766 and even if they try to act like robots VoUZMSC6P0M-00288-00055767-00055854 or they try to act like they're VoUZMSC6P0M-00289-00055855-00055942 naturalists VoUZMSC6P0M-00290-00055944-00056247 they end up participating in sort of a VoUZMSC6P0M-00291-00056248-00056471 larger romantic worldview which leaks VoUZMSC6P0M-00292-00056472-00056591 out that they're really VoUZMSC6P0M-00293-00056591-00056799 they're really spiritualists at heart VoUZMSC6P0M-00294-00056800-00056926 and they really do want some sort of VoUZMSC6P0M-00295-00056927-00057047 spiritual worldview VoUZMSC6P0M-00296-00057048-00057223 yeah that that's something i find very VoUZMSC6P0M-00297-00057224-00057382 interesting like a lot of this spiritual VoUZMSC6P0M-00298-00057383-00057494 thing i hear about VoUZMSC6P0M-00299-00057495-00057742 in reality is to like control morals and VoUZMSC6P0M-00300-00057744-00057942 like to look at your morality and stuff VoUZMSC6P0M-00301-00057944-00058015 like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00302-00058016-00058126 but that's one thing i find very VoUZMSC6P0M-00303-00058127-00058335 interesting is like morals VoUZMSC6P0M-00304-00058336-00058487 in reality from at least what i've read VoUZMSC6P0M-00305-00058488-00058679 and what i've seen oftentimes come from VoUZMSC6P0M-00306-00058679-00058742 religion VoUZMSC6P0M-00307-00058744-00058919 stuff like you know like you know VoUZMSC6P0M-00308-00058920-00059047 commandments and VoUZMSC6P0M-00309-00059048-00059238 and other things like that nature and i VoUZMSC6P0M-00310-00059239-00059391 feel like that's a very important thing VoUZMSC6P0M-00311-00059391-00059542 is making sure like VoUZMSC6P0M-00312-00059544-00059782 not only people are there but also that VoUZMSC6P0M-00313-00059783-00059926 they're moral that they want to do good VoUZMSC6P0M-00314-00059927-00060007 things VoUZMSC6P0M-00315-00060008-00060135 and that's one thing that i think VoUZMSC6P0M-00316-00060136-00060454 religion plays a pivotal role in is like VoUZMSC6P0M-00317-00060455-00060791 help helping people be morally good VoUZMSC6P0M-00318-00060791-00061159 morally right stuff like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00319-00061160-00061415 yeah it seems like um at least in the VoUZMSC6P0M-00320-00061416-00061535 western world VoUZMSC6P0M-00321-00061536-00061775 the moral framework we have is VoUZMSC6P0M-00322-00061776-00061959 downstream from the judeo-christian VoUZMSC6P0M-00323-00061960-00062047 standard VoUZMSC6P0M-00324-00062048-00062238 so even if people aren't christian VoUZMSC6P0M-00325-00062239-00062382 they're participating in a culture VoUZMSC6P0M-00326-00062383-00062542 that's inherited a lot from VoUZMSC6P0M-00327-00062544-00062847 judea christian ethics in in VoUZMSC6P0M-00328-00062848-00063047 christianity VoUZMSC6P0M-00329-00063048-00063230 it's it's really interesting we want to VoUZMSC6P0M-00330-00063232-00063359 be moral VoUZMSC6P0M-00331-00063360-00063511 but we don't want to define our religion VoUZMSC6P0M-00332-00063512-00063775 as moralism and what we mean by that is VoUZMSC6P0M-00333-00063776-00063982 even if we're really good at helping VoUZMSC6P0M-00334-00063983-00064159 people know what's right and wrong VoUZMSC6P0M-00335-00064160-00064494 and giving them people structure um the VoUZMSC6P0M-00336-00064495-00064799 christianity says that uh we're in a VoUZMSC6P0M-00337-00064800-00064999 pretty bad place at that point still VoUZMSC6P0M-00338-00065000-00065135 because even if you tell me all the VoUZMSC6P0M-00339-00065136-00065326 right rules even if you train me really VoUZMSC6P0M-00340-00065327-00065406 well VoUZMSC6P0M-00341-00065407-00065591 um you used me to the best schools on VoUZMSC6P0M-00342-00065592-00065726 how to be a good citizen and a good VoUZMSC6P0M-00343-00065727-00065823 human being VoUZMSC6P0M-00344-00065824-00066087 i have a really deep carnot carnal prop VoUZMSC6P0M-00345-00066088-00066326 a carnality problem i have i'm bent VoUZMSC6P0M-00346-00066327-00066671 toward being corrupt in my VoUZMSC6P0M-00347-00066672-00066982 spirit so i deeply need to be born again VoUZMSC6P0M-00348-00066983-00067150 and i deeply need to be forgiven VoUZMSC6P0M-00349-00067151-00067606 and if i depend on being moral for that VoUZMSC6P0M-00350-00067607-00067871 i'll never measure up but if i have a VoUZMSC6P0M-00351-00067872-00068111 gospel of grace that says VoUZMSC6P0M-00352-00068112-00068311 because of the blood of jesus my sins VoUZMSC6P0M-00353-00068312-00068623 can be freely forgiven and i can be VoUZMSC6P0M-00354-00068624-00068935 right with god um as a free gift VoUZMSC6P0M-00355-00068936-00069103 then that that kind of reorients VoUZMSC6P0M-00356-00069104-00069303 everything like it's like okay VoUZMSC6P0M-00357-00069304-00069526 um i'm not being moral so that god will VoUZMSC6P0M-00358-00069527-00069606 love me or VoUZMSC6P0M-00359-00069607-00069815 that god will accept me i'm freely VoUZMSC6P0M-00360-00069816-00069935 accepted by god VoUZMSC6P0M-00361-00069936-00070238 through jesus by faith and so now VoUZMSC6P0M-00362-00070239-00070503 i want to pursue ethics and holiness and VoUZMSC6P0M-00363-00070504-00070606 morality and VoUZMSC6P0M-00364-00070607-00070823 killing my hypocrisy and confessing my VoUZMSC6P0M-00365-00070824-00070926 sin yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-00366-00070927-00071055 that's one thing we believe is very VoUZMSC6P0M-00367-00071056-00071255 important as well like i think it was VoUZMSC6P0M-00368-00071256-00071535 the apostle david a bednar he said our VoUZMSC6P0M-00369-00071536-00071743 goal in life is not only to overcome sin VoUZMSC6P0M-00370-00071744-00071926 but the desire to sin as well VoUZMSC6P0M-00371-00071927-00072094 like we wanted to be as paul said new VoUZMSC6P0M-00372-00072095-00072279 creature in christ we want to VoUZMSC6P0M-00373-00072280-00072519 change the point where we we we want to VoUZMSC6P0M-00374-00072520-00072679 be with heavenly father we want to be in VoUZMSC6P0M-00375-00072680-00072887 heaven instead of being like a VoUZMSC6P0M-00376-00072888-00073150 like a legalist yeah a legalist or like VoUZMSC6P0M-00377-00073151-00073287 oh i have to because everyone else is VoUZMSC6P0M-00378-00073288-00073423 doing it you know something that we VoUZMSC6P0M-00379-00073424-00073567 truly want VoUZMSC6P0M-00380-00073568-00073726 yeah that was a really good answer i VoUZMSC6P0M-00381-00073727-00074103 have to say and VoUZMSC6P0M-00382-00074104-00074247 i lost my notes but that's okay that's VoUZMSC6P0M-00383-00074248-00074415 all right happens to the best of us VoUZMSC6P0M-00384-00074416-00074535 remind me where you're from again i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-00385-00074536-00074750 from montana actually yeah and the VoUZMSC6P0M-00386-00074751-00074838 weather down here VoUZMSC6P0M-00387-00074839-00075079 is uh it's way warmer way way warmer VoUZMSC6P0M-00388-00075080-00075159 okay like VoUZMSC6P0M-00389-00075160-00075359 i i would show you but i'm sweating a VoUZMSC6P0M-00390-00075360-00075638 lot right it's way too warm outside VoUZMSC6P0M-00391-00075639-00075911 yeah so with the recent closure of VoUZMSC6P0M-00392-00075912-00076094 churches due to covid what do you think VoUZMSC6P0M-00393-00076095-00076143 are the VoUZMSC6P0M-00394-00076144-00076382 long-term effects for what do you think VoUZMSC6P0M-00395-00076383-00076526 the long-term effects will be VoUZMSC6P0M-00396-00076527-00076743 for religious people and how would you VoUZMSC6P0M-00397-00076744-00076831 recommend to like VoUZMSC6P0M-00398-00076832-00077079 cope with these issues of like churches VoUZMSC6P0M-00399-00077080-00077247 haven't closed because covet 19 and VoUZMSC6P0M-00400-00077248-00077375 stuff like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00401-00077376-00077655 um well let me say up front um i don't VoUZMSC6P0M-00402-00077656-00077687 know VoUZMSC6P0M-00403-00077688-00077855 what the long-term effects will be so VoUZMSC6P0M-00404-00077856-00078031 i'll just take a stab at it i'll just VoUZMSC6P0M-00405-00078032-00078143 try to figure out VoUZMSC6P0M-00406-00078144-00078455 think out loud i it seems like VoUZMSC6P0M-00407-00078456-00078671 god is up to something but i'm not quite VoUZMSC6P0M-00408-00078672-00078782 sure so i'm in VoUZMSC6P0M-00409-00078783-00078950 i'm in a holding pattern and waiting to VoUZMSC6P0M-00410-00078951-00079143 see what god's up to VoUZMSC6P0M-00411-00079144-00079471 it's hard to tell if there will be some VoUZMSC6P0M-00412-00079472-00079591 sort of revival VoUZMSC6P0M-00413-00079592-00079759 where people will feel more spiritually VoUZMSC6P0M-00414-00079760-00079967 hungry to think about VoUZMSC6P0M-00415-00079968-00080326 fatality and death and you know eternity VoUZMSC6P0M-00416-00080327-00080647 um or or maybe it's both but VoUZMSC6P0M-00417-00080648-00081062 perhaps it's um society is being judged VoUZMSC6P0M-00418-00081063-00081391 and we're being handed over to our own VoUZMSC6P0M-00419-00081392-00081455 preferences VoUZMSC6P0M-00420-00081456-00081655 which is you know we don't want god we VoUZMSC6P0M-00421-00081656-00081799 we just so it's hard to tell but when it VoUZMSC6P0M-00422-00081800-00081918 comes to like VoUZMSC6P0M-00423-00081919-00082135 churches and coveted and you know being VoUZMSC6P0M-00424-00082136-00082262 stuck at home for VoUZMSC6P0M-00425-00082263-00082567 a while um i VoUZMSC6P0M-00426-00082568-00082743 i'm just guessing but i have to i have VoUZMSC6P0M-00427-00082744-00082894 to wonder if a lot of people in america VoUZMSC6P0M-00428-00082895-00083175 just won't go back to church afterwards VoUZMSC6P0M-00429-00083176-00083326 i don't know but i have to wonder too if VoUZMSC6P0M-00430-00083327-00083687 there's a huge section of people that VoUZMSC6P0M-00431-00083688-00083975 genuine christians who were stuck at VoUZMSC6P0M-00432-00083976-00084071 home for a while VoUZMSC6P0M-00433-00084072-00084438 and they have a new appreciation for VoUZMSC6P0M-00434-00084439-00084494 fellowship VoUZMSC6P0M-00435-00084495-00084671 they're like oh i'm not a robot i'm not VoUZMSC6P0M-00436-00084672-00084871 i'm not just a vat VoUZMSC6P0M-00437-00084872-00085071 i'm not a brain in a vat i'm like i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-00438-00085072-00085231 human i need to like go and VoUZMSC6P0M-00439-00085232-00085487 see people and worship god with other VoUZMSC6P0M-00440-00085488-00085718 people and like touch other people and i VoUZMSC6P0M-00441-00085719-00085903 need to like take communion physically VoUZMSC6P0M-00442-00085904-00085967 and VoUZMSC6P0M-00443-00085968-00086094 so i have to wonder too if there will be VoUZMSC6P0M-00444-00086095-00086335 like a a newfound appreciation among VoUZMSC6P0M-00445-00086336-00086671 christians for uh meeting and greeting VoUZMSC6P0M-00446-00086672-00086694 and VoUZMSC6P0M-00447-00086695-00086823 maybe we'll go back to like the new VoUZMSC6P0M-00448-00086824-00087023 testament holy kiss afterwards VoUZMSC6P0M-00449-00087024-00087206 they're just so excited and like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00450-00087207-00087375 that's one thing i worry about too VoUZMSC6P0M-00451-00087376-00087423 because VoUZMSC6P0M-00452-00087424-00087591 oftentimes especially in the church we VoUZMSC6P0M-00453-00087592-00087703 have people who go to church because VoUZMSC6P0M-00454-00087704-00087815 they believe it because they believe VoUZMSC6P0M-00455-00087816-00087943 it's the right thing to do VoUZMSC6P0M-00456-00087944-00088126 and because like they want to be closer VoUZMSC6P0M-00457-00088127-00088223 with god but then you also have this VoUZMSC6P0M-00458-00088224-00088343 other group of people VoUZMSC6P0M-00459-00088344-00088518 that just do it because it's the culture VoUZMSC6P0M-00460-00088519-00088726 because you know they feel like they're VoUZMSC6P0M-00461-00088727-00088823 obligated to VoUZMSC6P0M-00462-00088824-00089023 so i do worry about those effects like VoUZMSC6P0M-00463-00089024-00089182 how it will affect that group of people VoUZMSC6P0M-00464-00089183-00089326 who don't really want to go VoUZMSC6P0M-00465-00089327-00089518 and also the people who are dying to go VoUZMSC6P0M-00466-00089519-00089647 i i can't VoUZMSC6P0M-00467-00089648-00089791 i can't imagine how joyful they'll be VoUZMSC6P0M-00468-00089792-00090071 when like things start back up again and VoUZMSC6P0M-00469-00090072-00090335 and like how like how much like VoUZMSC6P0M-00470-00090336-00090471 appreciation we'll have for stuff like VoUZMSC6P0M-00471-00090472-00090638 church meetings in the future VoUZMSC6P0M-00472-00090639-00090862 because as you said fellowship being VoUZMSC6P0M-00473-00090863-00090999 with people of your same belief VoUZMSC6P0M-00474-00091000-00091175 is a wonderful feeling yeah i'm sure VoUZMSC6P0M-00475-00091176-00091303 we're thankful for zoom VoUZMSC6P0M-00476-00091304-00091615 oh yes we are all thankful for zoom but VoUZMSC6P0M-00477-00091616-00091775 it's kind of lame computer it's not the VoUZMSC6P0M-00478-00091776-00091982 same VoUZMSC6P0M-00479-00091983-00092215 being personal people yeah as VoUZMSC6P0M-00480-00092216-00092343 missionaries were like doing a lot of VoUZMSC6P0M-00481-00092344-00092511 teaching over zoom and i can confidently VoUZMSC6P0M-00482-00092512-00092655 say it is not the same VoUZMSC6P0M-00483-00092656-00092918 at all like you you try and crack a joke VoUZMSC6P0M-00484-00092919-00093071 you have about like four seconds lag VoUZMSC6P0M-00485-00093072-00093206 before they laugh it doesn't work too VoUZMSC6P0M-00486-00093207-00093391 well all the latency VoUZMSC6P0M-00487-00093392-00093718 yeah oh yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-00488-00093719-00093918 yeah so the next question is well on the VoUZMSC6P0M-00489-00093919-00094126 topic of kobit this time VoUZMSC6P0M-00490-00094127-00094279 oh sorry this has been a challenging VoUZMSC6P0M-00491-00094280-00094582 time for people of all faiths VoUZMSC6P0M-00492-00094583-00094782 and those of none some wonder if there's VoUZMSC6P0M-00493-00094783-00094967 god and if there is one like howie he VoUZMSC6P0M-00494-00094968-00095150 could let something like this happen VoUZMSC6P0M-00495-00095151-00095431 others suggest that god this is like god VoUZMSC6P0M-00496-00095432-00095574 getting our attention VoUZMSC6P0M-00497-00095575-00095838 so in what ways have you like seen god's VoUZMSC6P0M-00498-00095839-00096118 hand in your life during this pandemic VoUZMSC6P0M-00499-00096119-00096438 so personally for me in my life um VoUZMSC6P0M-00500-00096439-00096679 i had some kids at a charter school in VoUZMSC6P0M-00501-00096680-00096855 you know overnight they were being VoUZMSC6P0M-00502-00096856-00097087 homeschooled or schooling from home a VoUZMSC6P0M-00503-00097088-00097206 hybrid from homeschooling VoUZMSC6P0M-00504-00097207-00097431 and then online schooling from home let VoUZMSC6P0M-00505-00097432-00097582 me just say god bless you like VoUZMSC6P0M-00506-00097583-00097974 homeschooling stuff i well i VoUZMSC6P0M-00507-00097975-00098238 it's pretty cool when god blesses a VoUZMSC6P0M-00508-00098239-00098494 family to VoUZMSC6P0M-00509-00098495-00098687 have the patience to learn to have their VoUZMSC6P0M-00510-00098688-00098823 kids sit still and VoUZMSC6P0M-00511-00098824-00099055 manage conflict and manage attentions VoUZMSC6P0M-00512-00099056-00099167 yeah that's like VoUZMSC6P0M-00513-00099168-00099382 that's like harder than starting a VoUZMSC6P0M-00514-00099383-00099550 million dollars teachers deserve a raise VoUZMSC6P0M-00515-00099551-00099671 we can both agree on oh yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-00516-00099672-00100103 totally um and and moms are amazing VoUZMSC6P0M-00517-00100104-00100487 so we were suddenly all at home VoUZMSC6P0M-00518-00100488-00100687 and um we were spending more time VoUZMSC6P0M-00519-00100688-00100926 together which was a perk VoUZMSC6P0M-00520-00100927-00101311 it was it was a blessing and we suddenly VoUZMSC6P0M-00521-00101312-00101615 my gym shut down permanently and i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-00522-00101616-00101718 working from home VoUZMSC6P0M-00523-00101719-00101982 and everyone's at home so all of a VoUZMSC6P0M-00524-00101983-00102111 sudden our commitments are VoUZMSC6P0M-00525-00102112-00102382 sort of cut and our weekly and daily VoUZMSC6P0M-00526-00102383-00102575 commitments VoUZMSC6P0M-00527-00102576-00102902 so um it gave me an opportunity it was VoUZMSC6P0M-00528-00102903-00103047 felt like a god given opportunity to VoUZMSC6P0M-00529-00103048-00103127 kind of reset VoUZMSC6P0M-00530-00103128-00103318 and think about my weekly and daily VoUZMSC6P0M-00531-00103319-00103439 priorities VoUZMSC6P0M-00532-00103440-00103686 and it made me have it gave me the VoUZMSC6P0M-00533-00103688-00103806 opportunity to think about VoUZMSC6P0M-00534-00103807-00104054 big family decisions so i i felt like VoUZMSC6P0M-00535-00104055-00104230 god was really helping me VoUZMSC6P0M-00536-00104231-00104518 like reset my view of my priorities that VoUZMSC6P0M-00537-00104519-00104727 was really helpful VoUZMSC6P0M-00538-00104728-00105039 it it there was a peak time when VoUZMSC6P0M-00539-00105040-00105166 you know at the very beginning people VoUZMSC6P0M-00540-00105167-00105383 thought it was going to be a lot worse VoUZMSC6P0M-00541-00105383-00105558 i mean like a lot worse and so we're all VoUZMSC6P0M-00542-00105559-00105695 thinking about death VoUZMSC6P0M-00543-00105696-00105951 so that's helpful that's that's like a VoUZMSC6P0M-00544-00105952-00106086 smelling salt VoUZMSC6P0M-00545-00106088-00106231 smelling thoughts can be super helpful VoUZMSC6P0M-00546-00106232-00106471 they just kind of awaken you to VoUZMSC6P0M-00547-00106472-00106631 big questions you know i'm going to die VoUZMSC6P0M-00548-00106632-00106854 someday i'm going to face jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00549-00106855-00106983 he's going to judge the living and the VoUZMSC6P0M-00550-00106983-00107223 dead um like what VoUZMSC6P0M-00551-00107224-00107343 do i really want to do with my life that VoUZMSC6P0M-00552-00107344-00107543 kind of thing so if i could broaden it a VoUZMSC6P0M-00553-00107544-00107590 little bit VoUZMSC6P0M-00554-00107591-00108015 um i thought it was really cool VoUZMSC6P0M-00555-00108016-00108383 to see a lot of moms come home VoUZMSC6P0M-00556-00108383-00108663 and be with their kids around the dinner VoUZMSC6P0M-00557-00108664-00108766 table VoUZMSC6P0M-00558-00108767-00108910 a lot of challenges to that but i VoUZMSC6P0M-00559-00108911-00109054 thought it was overall a beautiful thing VoUZMSC6P0M-00560-00109055-00109175 to see families VoUZMSC6P0M-00561-00109176-00109302 in the living room together in the VoUZMSC6P0M-00562-00109303-00109543 kitchen together again and dad's at home VoUZMSC6P0M-00563-00109544-00109590 seeing VoUZMSC6P0M-00564-00109591-00109839 you know their families again so it felt VoUZMSC6P0M-00565-00109840-00109951 like god was VoUZMSC6P0M-00566-00109952-00110254 helping christians be VoUZMSC6P0M-00567-00110255-00110615 more home oriented i felt like god was VoUZMSC6P0M-00568-00110616-00110678 up VoUZMSC6P0M-00569-00110679-00110839 god was up to something helping VoUZMSC6P0M-00570-00110840-00111127 christian families VoUZMSC6P0M-00571-00111128-00111423 reorient our view of home life so i VoUZMSC6P0M-00572-00111424-00111575 definitely feel like covid like well it VoUZMSC6P0M-00573-00111576-00111719 does have many trials it's also a VoUZMSC6P0M-00574-00111720-00111839 blessing too VoUZMSC6P0M-00575-00111840-00111958 because it makes us as you said VoUZMSC6P0M-00576-00111959-00112166 reevaluate reevaluate what's important VoUZMSC6P0M-00577-00112167-00112358 to us why we're doing things VoUZMSC6P0M-00578-00112359-00112510 and that's one thing like i found so VoUZMSC6P0M-00579-00112511-00112647 i've been a missionary for most of my VoUZMSC6P0M-00580-00112648-00112815 time during covet 19 VoUZMSC6P0M-00581-00112816-00113054 and made me re-evaluate why am i doing VoUZMSC6P0M-00582-00113055-00113207 missionary work am i doing it because i VoUZMSC6P0M-00583-00113208-00113358 want to be like successful or because i VoUZMSC6P0M-00584-00113359-00113534 want all this personal recognition VoUZMSC6P0M-00585-00113535-00113702 or am i doing it out of love for my VoUZMSC6P0M-00586-00113703-00113919 fellow man because i want to help VoUZMSC6P0M-00587-00113920-00114095 everyone come closer to jesus christ and VoUZMSC6P0M-00588-00114096-00114183 stuff like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00589-00114183-00114375 sorry i lost my voice there and stuff VoUZMSC6P0M-00590-00114376-00114486 like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00591-00114488-00114807 so in my opinion i think like VoUZMSC6P0M-00592-00114808-00115031 as you said like it is a blessing and VoUZMSC6P0M-00593-00115032-00115158 it's like VoUZMSC6P0M-00594-00115159-00115351 god definitely has a hand in it it's not VoUZMSC6P0M-00595-00115352-00115551 it's not all negative it's not all bad VoUZMSC6P0M-00596-00115552-00115902 like they're still good to come from it VoUZMSC6P0M-00597-00115903-00116286 yeah yeah um VoUZMSC6P0M-00598-00116288-00116575 in romans 8 28 paul says for we know VoUZMSC6P0M-00599-00116576-00116631 that VoUZMSC6P0M-00600-00116632-00116951 um for we know that all things work VoUZMSC6P0M-00601-00116952-00117063 together VoUZMSC6P0M-00602-00117064-00117366 for good for those that love god for VoUZMSC6P0M-00603-00117367-00117510 those that have been called according to VoUZMSC6P0M-00604-00117511-00117607 his purpose VoUZMSC6P0M-00605-00117608-00117871 so even if it's terrible even if even if VoUZMSC6P0M-00606-00117872-00117927 there's VoUZMSC6P0M-00607-00117928-00118078 death and sickness in my family at some VoUZMSC6P0M-00608-00118079-00118247 point here um VoUZMSC6P0M-00609-00118248-00118566 god is not he's not weak he's not um VoUZMSC6P0M-00610-00118567-00118807 god doesn't go oh no kovid what do i do VoUZMSC6P0M-00611-00118808-00118999 now i didn't see this coming VoUZMSC6P0M-00612-00119000-00119183 um no he has totally has a plan and a VoUZMSC6P0M-00613-00119183-00119375 purpose behind it a good VoUZMSC6P0M-00614-00119376-00119615 sanctifying purpose behind it he loves VoUZMSC6P0M-00615-00119616-00119790 my family VoUZMSC6P0M-00616-00119791-00120023 only good will come of it for my family VoUZMSC6P0M-00617-00120024-00120119 um VoUZMSC6P0M-00618-00120120-00120414 god loves me um it's really hard for VoUZMSC6P0M-00619-00120415-00120454 people VoUZMSC6P0M-00620-00120455-00120639 to put the two and two together you know VoUZMSC6P0M-00621-00120640-00120766 suffering VoUZMSC6P0M-00622-00120767-00121110 kovid god's goodness VoUZMSC6P0M-00623-00121111-00121351 well i just know they're both true yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-00624-00121352-00121502 and honestly like that's one thing we VoUZMSC6P0M-00625-00121503-00121710 believe is like suffering and trials VoUZMSC6P0M-00626-00121711-00121895 can lead to you becoming a stronger and VoUZMSC6P0M-00627-00121896-00122078 better person overall VoUZMSC6P0M-00628-00122079-00122327 so like we don't suffer needlessly we VoUZMSC6P0M-00629-00122328-00122471 suffer because VoUZMSC6P0M-00630-00122472-00122678 when we suffer when we have trials or VoUZMSC6P0M-00631-00122679-00122902 challenges it allows god to VoUZMSC6P0M-00632-00122903-00123071 show us hand more in our lives to help VoUZMSC6P0M-00633-00123072-00123207 us more personally VoUZMSC6P0M-00634-00123208-00123366 i found personally in my life and i've VoUZMSC6P0M-00635-00123367-00123543 been at my low stages when life isn't VoUZMSC6P0M-00636-00123544-00123695 going the way i want to and stuff like VoUZMSC6P0M-00637-00123696-00123766 that VoUZMSC6P0M-00638-00123767-00124039 that god has been able to help me best VoUZMSC6P0M-00639-00124040-00124207 in those times and teach me the most VoUZMSC6P0M-00640-00124208-00124399 in those times and i've noticed when i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-00641-00124400-00124551 like at the high stages where i think VoUZMSC6P0M-00642-00124552-00124743 i'm all that and a bag of chips VoUZMSC6P0M-00643-00124744-00124983 and all i've noticed that's when i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-00644-00124983-00125143 spiritually less inclined and VoUZMSC6P0M-00645-00125144-00125390 i don't learn as much and it leads to VoUZMSC6P0M-00646-00125391-00125631 the aforementioned low stages VoUZMSC6P0M-00647-00125632-00125783 yeah it's almost dangerous not to have VoUZMSC6P0M-00648-00125783-00125990 trials yes but we're going to chill VoUZMSC6P0M-00649-00125991-00126278 coast do netflix and social media and VoUZMSC6P0M-00650-00126279-00126439 computer games and VoUZMSC6P0M-00651-00126440-00126671 um and just stop thinking about god and VoUZMSC6P0M-00652-00126672-00126854 eternity and VoUZMSC6P0M-00653-00126855-00127078 human suffering it's it's like thank you VoUZMSC6P0M-00654-00127079-00127247 lord for giving us VoUZMSC6P0M-00655-00127248-00127471 covet thank you i mean please bless the VoUZMSC6P0M-00656-00127472-00127631 people that are suffering VoUZMSC6P0M-00657-00127632-00127999 and thank you for giving us um VoUZMSC6P0M-00658-00128000-00128271 suffering that brings about our good so VoUZMSC6P0M-00659-00128272-00128423 yeah there was something that dee VoUZMSC6P0M-00660-00128424-00128599 todd christopherson one of our apostles VoUZMSC6P0M-00661-00128600-00128839 he he like challenged all members of VoUZMSC6P0M-00662-00128840-00129007 church to do and that was to not only VoUZMSC6P0M-00663-00129008-00129231 like actively seek but even sometimes VoUZMSC6P0M-00664-00129232-00129463 ask for correction and trials VoUZMSC6P0M-00665-00129464-00129631 so that way we could become better so VoUZMSC6P0M-00666-00129632-00129839 it's not like oh we want bad things to VoUZMSC6P0M-00667-00129840-00129999 happen to us but so we can learn more so VoUZMSC6P0M-00668-00130000-00130247 we can be closer to god and jesus christ VoUZMSC6P0M-00669-00130248-00130471 and that's one thing i find amazing is VoUZMSC6P0M-00670-00130472-00130558 is VoUZMSC6P0M-00671-00130559-00130727 in reality god is in the details he VoUZMSC6P0M-00672-00130728-00130871 cares about us all individually and VoUZMSC6P0M-00673-00130872-00131047 wants to help us all individually and VoUZMSC6P0M-00674-00131048-00131502 stuff like that VoUZMSC6P0M-00675-00131503-00131687 and then the next little bit of that VoUZMSC6P0M-00676-00131688-00131887 same question is what advice do you have VoUZMSC6P0M-00677-00131888-00132039 for others who are honestly searching VoUZMSC6P0M-00678-00132040-00132151 for god but VoUZMSC6P0M-00679-00132152-00132319 don't know what to look for or how to VoUZMSC6P0M-00680-00132320-00132719 find him VoUZMSC6P0M-00681-00132720-00133023 the first thing is if VoUZMSC6P0M-00682-00133024-00133166 you're in a season where you feel the VoUZMSC6P0M-00683-00133167-00133351 desire to VoUZMSC6P0M-00684-00133352-00133590 um seek out truth or even if you have a VoUZMSC6P0M-00685-00133591-00133678 fear of VoUZMSC6P0M-00686-00133679-00134111 of hell or of judgment or death VoUZMSC6P0M-00687-00134112-00134487 use it channel it to seek out VoUZMSC6P0M-00688-00134488-00134799 jesus so as a christian i don't think VoUZMSC6P0M-00689-00134800-00134943 there's any hope in seeking out a VoUZMSC6P0M-00690-00134944-00135159 generic deity VoUZMSC6P0M-00691-00135160-00135366 or any other deity outside of VoUZMSC6P0M-00692-00135367-00135487 christianity VoUZMSC6P0M-00693-00135488-00135823 but rather to focus with the VoUZMSC6P0M-00694-00135824-00136054 with the laser sharp focus on jesus so VoUZMSC6P0M-00695-00136055-00136199 my my particular VoUZMSC6P0M-00696-00136200-00136502 um invitation or challenge or even VoUZMSC6P0M-00697-00136503-00136735 even ambassadorial declaration as a VoUZMSC6P0M-00698-00136736-00136919 christian to the world would be VoUZMSC6P0M-00699-00136920-00137207 open up one of the four gospels matthew VoUZMSC6P0M-00700-00137208-00137271 mark VoUZMSC6P0M-00701-00137272-00137671 luke or john and just gorge yourself VoUZMSC6P0M-00702-00137672-00138014 on the words of jesus and let jesus draw VoUZMSC6P0M-00703-00138015-00138063 you in VoUZMSC6P0M-00704-00138064-00138223 there's something captivating about VoUZMSC6P0M-00705-00138224-00138407 jesus he's he's really hard VoUZMSC6P0M-00706-00138408-00138743 to dismiss and let him VoUZMSC6P0M-00707-00138744-00138990 uh define himself on his own terms and VoUZMSC6P0M-00708-00138991-00139166 let his words VoUZMSC6P0M-00709-00139167-00139471 be the authority in your life so if if VoUZMSC6P0M-00710-00139472-00139543 somebody is VoUZMSC6P0M-00711-00139544-00139671 is thinking well i don't really know if VoUZMSC6P0M-00712-00139672-00139887 jesus is the real deal i don't know if VoUZMSC6P0M-00713-00139888-00139927 he's VoUZMSC6P0M-00714-00139928-00140247 worth my attention well he happens to be VoUZMSC6P0M-00715-00140248-00140478 the most reputable religious figure in VoUZMSC6P0M-00716-00140479-00140551 the world VoUZMSC6P0M-00717-00140552-00140783 for good reason so he's worth he's worth VoUZMSC6P0M-00718-00140784-00140951 at least investigation VoUZMSC6P0M-00719-00140952-00141111 and even if you don't get that through VoUZMSC6P0M-00720-00141112-00141278 maybe a few chapters of one of the four VoUZMSC6P0M-00721-00141279-00141390 gospels VoUZMSC6P0M-00722-00141391-00141687 jesus has a way of capturing us with the VoUZMSC6P0M-00723-00141688-00141911 authority of his works and his words VoUZMSC6P0M-00724-00141912-00142135 um the way the way that he speaks to VoUZMSC6P0M-00725-00142136-00142311 even his religious enemies VoUZMSC6P0M-00726-00142312-00142663 he's total boss he the way he speaks to VoUZMSC6P0M-00727-00142664-00142743 people who VoUZMSC6P0M-00728-00142744-00143095 are uh hurting and and weak VoUZMSC6P0M-00729-00143096-00143335 who say lord uh i believe help my VoUZMSC6P0M-00730-00143336-00143431 unbelief VoUZMSC6P0M-00731-00143432-00143647 the way that he heals a leper or a blind VoUZMSC6P0M-00732-00143648-00143839 person there's something that is VoUZMSC6P0M-00733-00143840-00144047 inimitable about jesus like you can't VoUZMSC6P0M-00734-00144048-00144183 there's no other religious figure like VoUZMSC6P0M-00735-00144184-00144359 him no matter how VoUZMSC6P0M-00736-00144360-00144639 exciting they are or how exciting or VoUZMSC6P0M-00737-00144640-00144799 charismatic someone is that there's no VoUZMSC6P0M-00738-00144800-00144943 youtube star VoUZMSC6P0M-00739-00144944-00145287 that any of my my kids can find that VoUZMSC6P0M-00740-00145288-00145447 will sustain their attention the way VoUZMSC6P0M-00741-00145448-00145631 that jesus can so i i would i would VoUZMSC6P0M-00742-00145632-00145807 employ someone like that to VoUZMSC6P0M-00743-00145808-00146023 read one of the four gospels gorge VoUZMSC6P0M-00744-00146024-00146207 yourself on the words of jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00745-00146208-00146407 and pray that god would open your eyes VoUZMSC6P0M-00746-00146408-00146702 to experience the person of jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00747-00146703-00146863 the way he was meant to be experienced VoUZMSC6P0M-00748-00146864-00147039 yeah and honestly that VoUZMSC6P0M-00749-00147040-00147247 i agree completely like one of the first VoUZMSC6P0M-00750-00147248-00147343 things i did VoUZMSC6P0M-00751-00147344-00147471 the first book of scripture actually VoUZMSC6P0M-00752-00147472-00147695 ever read was mark because my seminary VoUZMSC6P0M-00753-00147696-00147839 teacher they challenged me to read one VoUZMSC6P0M-00754-00147840-00147926 of the VoUZMSC6P0M-00755-00147927-00148078 gospels in the new testament and i VoUZMSC6P0M-00756-00148079-00148223 noticed mark was the shortest so i went VoUZMSC6P0M-00757-00148224-00148335 with that one VoUZMSC6P0M-00758-00148336-00148695 but i read mark and i loved it i loved VoUZMSC6P0M-00759-00148696-00148902 seeing jesus christ and his character VoUZMSC6P0M-00760-00148903-00149063 like how he was VoUZMSC6P0M-00761-00149064-00149231 as you said a total boss and dealing VoUZMSC6P0M-00762-00149232-00149375 with people who hated him VoUZMSC6P0M-00763-00149376-00149607 but also his constant love through VoUZMSC6P0M-00764-00149608-00149702 everyone VoUZMSC6P0M-00765-00149703-00149878 like i remember then like after i got VoUZMSC6P0M-00766-00149879-00150047 done with mark i was so infatuated that VoUZMSC6P0M-00767-00150048-00150183 i moved on to luke VoUZMSC6P0M-00768-00150184-00150351 and i was reading at the end when after VoUZMSC6P0M-00769-00150352-00150487 jesus christ was crucified when he says VoUZMSC6P0M-00770-00150488-00150695 forgive them they know not what they do VoUZMSC6P0M-00771-00150696-00150839 and i realized like the character of VoUZMSC6P0M-00772-00150840-00151071 jesus christ was so selfless VoUZMSC6P0M-00773-00151072-00151278 he didn't have any like personal VoUZMSC6P0M-00774-00151279-00151439 vendetta or personal gain from VoUZMSC6P0M-00775-00151440-00151719 anything he did in his life like he he VoUZMSC6P0M-00776-00151720-00151854 could have done anything as the son of VoUZMSC6P0M-00777-00151855-00152047 god but he willfully chose to be the VoUZMSC6P0M-00778-00152048-00152166 lamb of god to VoUZMSC6P0M-00779-00152167-00152366 to die for us to allow us all to return VoUZMSC6P0M-00780-00152367-00152511 live with heavenly father VoUZMSC6P0M-00781-00152512-00152743 and i found that so amazing like i would VoUZMSC6P0M-00782-00152744-00152814 agree like VoUZMSC6P0M-00783-00152815-00152943 definitely read some of the new VoUZMSC6P0M-00784-00152944-00153078 testament learn more about the character VoUZMSC6P0M-00785-00153079-00153223 of jesus christ as VoUZMSC6P0M-00786-00153224-00153390 ask for his atonement to bless your life VoUZMSC6P0M-00787-00153391-00153535 like it's honestly VoUZMSC6P0M-00788-00153536-00153783 it's a beautiful thing to do yeah what VoUZMSC6P0M-00789-00153784-00154071 what is more conceivably beautiful VoUZMSC6P0M-00790-00154072-00154351 than that god who's not weak he's VoUZMSC6P0M-00791-00154352-00154575 omnipotent he knows everything VoUZMSC6P0M-00792-00154576-00154902 um he's he has all power he's VoUZMSC6P0M-00793-00154903-00155239 he can't be contested he's over all VoUZMSC6P0M-00794-00155240-00155390 nature VoUZMSC6P0M-00795-00155391-00155702 he has no need to learn what what VoUZMSC6P0M-00796-00155703-00155799 conceivably VoUZMSC6P0M-00797-00155800-00156135 is a more beautiful than that this VoUZMSC6P0M-00798-00156136-00156551 most high almighty first god VoUZMSC6P0M-00799-00156552-00156887 would um condescend what i mean what a VoUZMSC6P0M-00800-00156888-00157007 trip down like VoUZMSC6P0M-00801-00157008-00157271 all the way down willfully become a man VoUZMSC6P0M-00802-00157272-00157326 and not just VoUZMSC6P0M-00803-00157327-00157702 a man a baby in a dirty manger VoUZMSC6P0M-00804-00157703-00157854 with poor parents that didn't really VoUZMSC6P0M-00805-00157855-00158031 know much like his dad was a carpenter VoUZMSC6P0M-00806-00158032-00158375 this omniscient omnipotent being became VoUZMSC6P0M-00807-00158376-00158783 a um a homeschooled jewish boy VoUZMSC6P0M-00808-00158784-00158983 uh who if you punched him in the arm it VoUZMSC6P0M-00809-00158984-00159126 would have hurt he's not superman he's VoUZMSC6P0M-00810-00159127-00159247 not a demigod VoUZMSC6P0M-00811-00159248-00159559 and he's like truly man so out of love VoUZMSC6P0M-00812-00159560-00159759 it's it's as though you were over an ant VoUZMSC6P0M-00813-00159760-00160007 hill and you became an aunt VoUZMSC6P0M-00814-00160008-00160247 to show your love to the god became a VoUZMSC6P0M-00815-00160248-00160439 baby god became a man VoUZMSC6P0M-00816-00160440-00160766 on purpose and then on purpose made his VoUZMSC6P0M-00817-00160767-00160902 way to jerusalem VoUZMSC6P0M-00818-00160903-00161247 knowing that he would suffer VoUZMSC6P0M-00819-00161248-00161463 an excruciating public embarrassing VoUZMSC6P0M-00820-00161464-00161663 shameful as it were VoUZMSC6P0M-00821-00161664-00162031 death at the hands of others and yet he VoUZMSC6P0M-00822-00162032-00162231 says no one takes my life from me VoUZMSC6P0M-00823-00162232-00162471 i give it up of my own accord and he VoUZMSC6P0M-00824-00162472-00162559 does that to show VoUZMSC6P0M-00825-00162560-00162766 ultimately his victory and his power VoUZMSC6P0M-00826-00162767-00162863 over death VoUZMSC6P0M-00827-00162864-00163166 and satan's like aha i got him and jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00828-00163167-00163543 and jesus wins by by dying VoUZMSC6P0M-00829-00163544-00163831 and he and he shows uh sorry one more VoUZMSC6P0M-00830-00163832-00163902 thing VoUZMSC6P0M-00831-00163903-00164302 at the cross the love the mercy of god VoUZMSC6P0M-00832-00164303-00164607 and the justice of god you can't get rid VoUZMSC6P0M-00833-00164608-00164631 of VoUZMSC6P0M-00834-00164632-00165014 either see jesus has to VoUZMSC6P0M-00835-00165015-00165319 uh punish sin he has to he has to meet VoUZMSC6P0M-00836-00165320-00165463 out justice VoUZMSC6P0M-00837-00165464-00165751 and yet he loves humanity he loves his VoUZMSC6P0M-00838-00165752-00165895 people VoUZMSC6P0M-00839-00165896-00166247 so at the cross there's this kiss VoUZMSC6P0M-00840-00166248-00166502 of the beautiful attributes of god's VoUZMSC6P0M-00841-00166503-00166647 mercy and his justice VoUZMSC6P0M-00842-00166648-00166951 where the wrath of god is satisfied that VoUZMSC6P0M-00843-00166952-00167031 i deserve VoUZMSC6P0M-00844-00167032-00167231 it's it's absorbed in jesus and the VoUZMSC6P0M-00845-00167232-00167423 mercy that i don't deserve is granted to VoUZMSC6P0M-00846-00167424-00167454 me VoUZMSC6P0M-00847-00167455-00167631 it's there's nothing better it's VoUZMSC6P0M-00848-00167632-00167766 honestly nothing in marvel VoUZMSC6P0M-00849-00167767-00168007 nothing in dc comics yeah i agree VoUZMSC6P0M-00850-00168008-00168175 they're all they're all wannabes VoUZMSC6P0M-00851-00168176-00168423 because because you know when jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00852-00168424-00168590 christ we believe he was the son of god VoUZMSC6P0M-00853-00168591-00168790 but he willfully did all that to submit VoUZMSC6P0M-00854-00168791-00168935 himself fully to the father VoUZMSC6P0M-00855-00168936-00169159 to do all the things that the father VoUZMSC6P0M-00856-00169160-00169263 asked him to do VoUZMSC6P0M-00857-00169264-00169495 and what i always love is this was said VoUZMSC6P0M-00858-00169496-00169719 i think in a talk by VoUZMSC6P0M-00859-00169720-00170054 james no no truman g matson i think it VoUZMSC6P0M-00860-00170055-00170119 was VoUZMSC6P0M-00861-00170120-00170375 and it was during his condemning before VoUZMSC6P0M-00862-00170376-00170463 pilot VoUZMSC6P0M-00863-00170464-00170623 and pilate said do you know i can like VoUZMSC6P0M-00864-00170624-00170799 do all the stuff to you and then he VoUZMSC6P0M-00865-00170800-00170966 he put in perspective the power that VoUZMSC6P0M-00866-00170967-00171159 jesus christ had and he said VoUZMSC6P0M-00867-00171160-00171375 jesus wouldn't even have had to blink VoUZMSC6P0M-00868-00171376-00171526 and they all would have been destroyed VoUZMSC6P0M-00869-00171527-00171663 and he could have done VoUZMSC6P0M-00870-00171664-00171935 left and just gone back to heaven he he VoUZMSC6P0M-00871-00171936-00172054 didn't do anything wrong VoUZMSC6P0M-00872-00172055-00172351 he he was sinless he had all power but VoUZMSC6P0M-00873-00172352-00172559 he willfully chose to let it all happen VoUZMSC6P0M-00874-00172560-00172590 for VoUZMSC6P0M-00875-00172591-00172854 us like is there a greater act of love VoUZMSC6P0M-00876-00172855-00172895 and VoUZMSC6P0M-00877-00172896-00173054 because that act of love was so great VoUZMSC6P0M-00878-00173055-00173399 that mercy could satisfy justice like VoUZMSC6P0M-00879-00173400-00173607 agreed there's nothing better nothing VoUZMSC6P0M-00880-00173608-00173766 better than that thought that like VoUZMSC6P0M-00881-00173767-00174031 beauty within it is there anything you'd VoUZMSC6P0M-00882-00174032-00174575 like to add to that VoUZMSC6P0M-00883-00174576-00174878 when i was in high school i was 17 years VoUZMSC6P0M-00884-00174879-00174983 old VoUZMSC6P0M-00885-00174984-00175295 and i was learning more about myself VoUZMSC6P0M-00886-00175296-00175526 and one of the things i learned was that VoUZMSC6P0M-00887-00175527-00175678 i'm not merely someone who sins VoUZMSC6P0M-00888-00175679-00175799 occasionally VoUZMSC6P0M-00889-00175800-00176119 and i'm not merely just a sinner by a VoUZMSC6P0M-00890-00176120-00176247 manner of repetition VoUZMSC6P0M-00891-00176248-00176535 i'm centered by nature and i have a bent VoUZMSC6P0M-00892-00176536-00176647 toward VoUZMSC6P0M-00893-00176648-00177038 carnal things and um sin goes deeper VoUZMSC6P0M-00894-00177039-00177351 than i realized it did and VoUZMSC6P0M-00895-00177352-00177631 i'm i'm capable of doing evils that i VoUZMSC6P0M-00896-00177632-00177751 didn't think i was capable of VoUZMSC6P0M-00897-00177752-00178063 given the right circumstances so VoUZMSC6P0M-00898-00178064-00178287 what was pretty daunting for me is if i VoUZMSC6P0M-00899-00178288-00178431 have VoUZMSC6P0M-00900-00178432-00178743 if i have to be VoUZMSC6P0M-00901-00178744-00178919 if i have to measure up if i have to be VoUZMSC6P0M-00902-00178920-00179143 worthy enough or qualified enough VoUZMSC6P0M-00903-00179144-00179463 to receive god's mercy i'm in a bad VoUZMSC6P0M-00904-00179464-00179551 place VoUZMSC6P0M-00905-00179552-00179775 even if god says you know i'll assist VoUZMSC6P0M-00906-00179776-00179863 you VoUZMSC6P0M-00907-00179864-00180023 you know and being better and someday VoUZMSC6P0M-00908-00180024-00180151 you'll be good enough i'd still be in a VoUZMSC6P0M-00909-00180152-00180238 bad place VoUZMSC6P0M-00910-00180239-00180454 so what was revolutionary for me is VoUZMSC6P0M-00911-00180455-00180631 reading romans VoUZMSC6P0M-00912-00180632-00180887 in romans 4 there's two verses that just VoUZMSC6P0M-00913-00180888-00181095 god used to VoUZMSC6P0M-00914-00181096-00181471 change me forever romans 4 verse 4 says VoUZMSC6P0M-00915-00181472-00181719 when a man works his wages are not VoUZMSC6P0M-00916-00181720-00181878 counted to him as a gift VoUZMSC6P0M-00917-00181879-00182143 but as his due and to the one who does VoUZMSC6P0M-00918-00182144-00182238 not work VoUZMSC6P0M-00919-00182239-00182607 but trusts him who justifies the ungodly VoUZMSC6P0M-00920-00182608-00182926 his faith is counted for righteousness VoUZMSC6P0M-00921-00182927-00183143 and what was amazing about that to me is VoUZMSC6P0M-00922-00183144-00183343 i was like well i'm ungodly VoUZMSC6P0M-00923-00183344-00183526 uh and i think we all are you know VoUZMSC6P0M-00924-00183527-00183711 totally we all make mistakes we all fall VoUZMSC6P0M-00925-00183712-00183823 short of the glory of god VoUZMSC6P0M-00926-00183824-00184159 yeah and and paul says well if you VoUZMSC6P0M-00927-00184160-00184487 work for it like you're like you're VoUZMSC6P0M-00928-00184488-00184719 getting your wages like you're getting VoUZMSC6P0M-00929-00184720-00184838 owed to you VoUZMSC6P0M-00930-00184839-00185054 what's earned then he won't give you the VoUZMSC6P0M-00931-00185055-00185302 gift but if you stop working for it VoUZMSC6P0M-00932-00185303-00185463 as though you could earn it as though VoUZMSC6P0M-00933-00185464-00185687 you know it could be wages VoUZMSC6P0M-00934-00185688-00185887 and you start trusting god well what VoUZMSC6P0M-00935-00185888-00186047 kind of god VoUZMSC6P0M-00936-00186048-00186254 trusting god who justifies the ungodly VoUZMSC6P0M-00937-00186255-00186495 well i'm ungodly and god VoUZMSC6P0M-00938-00186496-00186719 this language is interesting he he VoUZMSC6P0M-00939-00186720-00186878 justifies the ungodly he counts VoUZMSC6P0M-00940-00186879-00187014 righteous the unrighteous he counts VoUZMSC6P0M-00941-00187015-00187263 godly the ungodly VoUZMSC6P0M-00942-00187264-00187614 that so when i read that verse VoUZMSC6P0M-00943-00187615-00187814 to him who does not work but trusts him VoUZMSC6P0M-00944-00187815-00187983 he justifies the ungodly VoUZMSC6P0M-00945-00187984-00188278 it was like god gave me permission to VoUZMSC6P0M-00946-00188279-00188423 pray a certain kind of prayer VoUZMSC6P0M-00947-00188424-00188663 and it was lord i am not good enough yet VoUZMSC6P0M-00948-00188664-00188814 i'm not worthy enough yet but would you VoUZMSC6P0M-00949-00188815-00189054 just go to the bottom of me right now VoUZMSC6P0M-00950-00189055-00189263 just right now like don't wait for VoUZMSC6P0M-00951-00189264-00189375 anything would you just go to the bottom VoUZMSC6P0M-00952-00189376-00189478 of me right now VoUZMSC6P0M-00953-00189479-00189687 and completely forgive me because of VoUZMSC6P0M-00954-00189688-00189911 what jesus did on the cross VoUZMSC6P0M-00955-00189912-00190190 would you just do that and it was like a VoUZMSC6P0M-00956-00190191-00190278 whole new VoUZMSC6P0M-00957-00190279-00190647 relationship opened up with god and my VoUZMSC6P0M-00958-00190648-00190999 uh my debts were paid and then like i VoUZMSC6P0M-00959-00191000-00191102 remember like VoUZMSC6P0M-00960-00191103-00191335 shortly after that i had this new logic VoUZMSC6P0M-00961-00191336-00191454 seeping through my VoUZMSC6P0M-00962-00191455-00191759 head and it was like okay if god forgave VoUZMSC6P0M-00963-00191760-00191983 me when i was a big punk i was lusty i VoUZMSC6P0M-00964-00191984-00192175 was arrogant i was difficult VoUZMSC6P0M-00965-00192176-00192526 irrational i was ignorant of god VoUZMSC6P0M-00966-00192527-00192702 i was an enemy of god if god forgave me VoUZMSC6P0M-00967-00192703-00192966 when i was in such a terrible condition VoUZMSC6P0M-00968-00192967-00193175 i probably should love my enemies and i VoUZMSC6P0M-00969-00193176-00193311 probably should love difficult people VoUZMSC6P0M-00970-00193312-00193535 who aren't worthy of my love VoUZMSC6P0M-00971-00193536-00193878 like i should just freely love them VoUZMSC6P0M-00972-00193879-00194054 because god loved me when i was in a bad VoUZMSC6P0M-00973-00194055-00194207 state so it was a pretty cool VoUZMSC6P0M-00974-00194208-00194319 transformation and so VoUZMSC6P0M-00975-00194320-00194511 that's where i think the cross can just VoUZMSC6P0M-00976-00194512-00194671 blow up someone's life in a good way VoUZMSC6P0M-00977-00194672-00194847 and that's something i love oftentimes VoUZMSC6P0M-00978-00194848-00195023 like we have this i don't know like VoUZMSC6P0M-00979-00195024-00195190 people put this like connotation or the VoUZMSC6P0M-00980-00195191-00195366 stigma on like the atonement VoUZMSC6P0M-00981-00195367-00195575 saying that oh well the the atonement VoUZMSC6P0M-00982-00195576-00195735 jesus christ only applies to certain VoUZMSC6P0M-00983-00195736-00195887 people or certain things or certain VoUZMSC6P0M-00984-00195888-00195983 situations and VoUZMSC6P0M-00985-00195984-00196150 quite frankly that's not it the VoUZMSC6P0M-00986-00196151-00196319 atonement applies to everyone jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-00987-00196320-00196471 christ suffered for everyone VoUZMSC6P0M-00988-00196472-00196695 and god gives it as a free gift to VoUZMSC6P0M-00989-00196696-00196871 everyone who wants to receive it VoUZMSC6P0M-00990-00196872-00197095 like and i know we have like obviously VoUZMSC6P0M-00991-00197096-00197223 differences in how i believe that gift VoUZMSC6P0M-00992-00197224-00197359 is received but i think that's beautiful VoUZMSC6P0M-00993-00197360-00197463 that you like VoUZMSC6P0M-00994-00197464-00197638 took in those scriptures and truly like VoUZMSC6P0M-00995-00197639-00197766 pondered them VoUZMSC6P0M-00996-00197767-00198095 and had that faith to act on it and like VoUZMSC6P0M-00997-00198096-00198247 honestly that that's a beautiful thing VoUZMSC6P0M-00998-00198248-00198431 that's a wonderful thing and VoUZMSC6P0M-00999-00198432-00198607 it it's in reality what we should all VoUZMSC6P0M-01000-00198608-00198743 strive to do is strive to VoUZMSC6P0M-01001-00198744-00198959 become closer with god closer with jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-01002-00198960-00199126 christ to become VoUZMSC6P0M-01003-00199127-00199366 a new creature because i agree we are VoUZMSC6P0M-01004-00199367-00199535 all fallen we are all carnal VoUZMSC6P0M-01005-00199536-00199783 we all want to sin but with jesus christ VoUZMSC6P0M-01006-00199784-00199943 we can literally change our nature VoUZMSC6P0M-01007-00199944-00200095 become that new creature and VoUZMSC6P0M-01008-00200096-00200271 do all the things that god wants us to VoUZMSC6P0M-01009-00200272-00200399 do it's VoUZMSC6P0M-01010-00200400-00200711 amazing so VoUZMSC6P0M-01011-00200712-00200887 obviously aaron you you are very very VoUZMSC6P0M-01012-00200888-00201119 familiar with you know latter-day saint VoUZMSC6P0M-01013-00201120-00201335 theology and the church's theology in VoUZMSC6P0M-01014-00201336-00201463 general so VoUZMSC6P0M-01015-00201464-00201654 i the question i have for you is is VoUZMSC6P0M-01016-00201655-00201766 there anything you've like learned from VoUZMSC6P0M-01017-00201767-00201902 the church jesus christ latter-day VoUZMSC6P0M-01018-00201903-00202143 saints that you personally have like uh VoUZMSC6P0M-01019-00202144-00202295 brought into your life or anything like VoUZMSC6P0M-01020-00202296-00202454 that VoUZMSC6P0M-01021-00202455-00202766 um so let me just say up front i think VoUZMSC6P0M-01022-00202767-00203078 all of the great things about my VoUZMSC6P0M-01023-00203079-00203247 latter-day saint neighbors VoUZMSC6P0M-01024-00203248-00203438 and all of the best parts of the VoUZMSC6P0M-01025-00203439-00203590 latter-day saint faith VoUZMSC6P0M-01026-00203591-00203878 i think are downstream from judea VoUZMSC6P0M-01027-00203879-00204014 christianity i think they're i would say VoUZMSC6P0M-01028-00204015-00204550 they're borrowed i would say they're VoUZMSC6P0M-01029-00204551-00204687 they're borrowed from the bible or VoUZMSC6P0M-01030-00204688-00204855 they're borrowed from jedi christianity VoUZMSC6P0M-01031-00204856-00204910 so VoUZMSC6P0M-01032-00204911-00205110 but among those that i most appreciate VoUZMSC6P0M-01033-00205111-00205214 would be VoUZMSC6P0M-01034-00205215-00205598 um work ethic um i love VoUZMSC6P0M-01035-00205600-00205886 i love the the turn for it's protestant VoUZMSC6P0M-01036-00205887-00206031 work ethic if you've heard that term VoUZMSC6P0M-01037-00206032-00206342 the social term um i love i people make VoUZMSC6P0M-01038-00206344-00206471 fun of this but i love it VoUZMSC6P0M-01039-00206471-00206679 people go to byu and they marry early VoUZMSC6P0M-01040-00206680-00206798 and they and and VoUZMSC6P0M-01041-00206800-00206998 utahns have more kids so i think VoUZMSC6P0M-01042-00207000-00207182 marrying young and having like VoUZMSC6P0M-01043-00207183-00207446 valuing the raising of a family with a VoUZMSC6P0M-01044-00207448-00207551 bunch of kiddos VoUZMSC6P0M-01045-00207552-00207794 it's a beautiful thing VoUZMSC6P0M-01046-00207796-00207927 disproportionately VoUZMSC6P0M-01047-00207928-00208255 having you know moms nurture kids in the VoUZMSC6P0M-01048-00208256-00208342 home VoUZMSC6P0M-01049-00208344-00208527 you know especially the young ones VoUZMSC6P0M-01050-00208528-00208734 that's a beautiful thing VoUZMSC6P0M-01051-00208735-00208998 i think especially in the 20th century VoUZMSC6P0M-01052-00209000-00209190 latter-day saints and protestants VoUZMSC6P0M-01053-00209191-00209558 have at an ethical level VoUZMSC6P0M-01054-00209559-00209919 enjoyed a lot of agreement on marriage VoUZMSC6P0M-01055-00209919-00210246 a single man single woman one man one VoUZMSC6P0M-01056-00210248-00210342 woman VoUZMSC6P0M-01057-00210344-00210694 um you know scriptural VoUZMSC6P0M-01058-00210696-00210967 monogamy a natural monogamy that VoUZMSC6P0M-01059-00210967-00211175 marriage is one man and one woman VoUZMSC6P0M-01060-00211176-00211294 and so i think you know up until VoUZMSC6P0M-01061-00211296-00211479 recently at least like we've had a lot VoUZMSC6P0M-01062-00211480-00211694 of agreement on the ethical framework VoUZMSC6P0M-01063-00211696-00212079 of that so um but i i really appreciate VoUZMSC6P0M-01064-00212080-00212351 one more thing patriotism um i think VoUZMSC6P0M-01065-00212352-00212446 patriotism VoUZMSC6P0M-01066-00212448-00212742 don't don't don't a little flag oh yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-01067-00212744-00212927 i think patriotism can be godly because VoUZMSC6P0M-01068-00212928-00213006 it's just a matter VoUZMSC6P0M-01069-00213007-00213246 of caring about the community you live VoUZMSC6P0M-01070-00213248-00213327 in VoUZMSC6P0M-01071-00213328-00213479 and honoring those who've gone before VoUZMSC6P0M-01072-00213480-00213615 you as much as you can even there's a VoUZMSC6P0M-01073-00213616-00213703 lot of warts VoUZMSC6P0M-01074-00213704-00214031 in everyone's heritage and VoUZMSC6P0M-01075-00214032-00214182 seeking the good of your community and VoUZMSC6P0M-01076-00214183-00214398 being thankful and patriotic so i think VoUZMSC6P0M-01077-00214400-00214558 i think to some degree everybody can do VoUZMSC6P0M-01078-00214559-00214703 that in the country that they're in VoUZMSC6P0M-01079-00214704-00214919 and i think latter-day saints really um VoUZMSC6P0M-01080-00214919-00215119 rightly pride themselves in being VoUZMSC6P0M-01081-00215119-00215334 patriotic there's a lot of fireworks VoUZMSC6P0M-01082-00215335-00215446 that go off faster VoUZMSC6P0M-01083-00215448-00215798 not that that's patriotism but VoUZMSC6P0M-01084-00215800-00216071 i i know i love being in utah people VoUZMSC6P0M-01085-00216071-00216158 people who VoUZMSC6P0M-01086-00216159-00216455 um grow up in utah and become jaded and VoUZMSC6P0M-01087-00216456-00216542 they want to leave VoUZMSC6P0M-01088-00216544-00216679 like i'm like oh it's a great place what VoUZMSC6P0M-01089-00216680-00216879 are you talking about like this is i i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-01090-00216880-00217039 coming here you're leaving i'm i'll just VoUZMSC6P0M-01091-00217040-00217142 i'll stay VoUZMSC6P0M-01092-00217144-00217358 uh i'll take your spot like i i so i VoUZMSC6P0M-01093-00217359-00217527 defend the latter-day saint VoUZMSC6P0M-01094-00217528-00217894 uh culture in many ways from maybe VoUZMSC6P0M-01095-00217896-00218191 a secular progressive liberal critic who VoUZMSC6P0M-01096-00218192-00218327 can't stand VoUZMSC6P0M-01097-00218328-00218471 the goal there's i think there's a ton VoUZMSC6P0M-01098-00218471-00218679 of beautiful things about it worth VoUZMSC6P0M-01099-00218680-00218919 commending and appreciating thanking god VoUZMSC6P0M-01100-00218919-00218982 for VoUZMSC6P0M-01101-00218983-00219175 abso absolutely and that that's one VoUZMSC6P0M-01102-00219176-00219398 thing i love about the protestant faith VoUZMSC6P0M-01103-00219400-00219646 is so i i'm sorry i don't remember the VoUZMSC6P0M-01104-00219648-00219751 exact name but VoUZMSC6P0M-01105-00219752-00219982 what i love about process in general is VoUZMSC6P0M-01106-00219983-00220127 the weight they put on the grace of VoUZMSC6P0M-01107-00220128-00220271 jesus christ in scripture VoUZMSC6P0M-01108-00220271-00220558 like i feel often times like people tend VoUZMSC6P0M-01109-00220559-00220679 to like VoUZMSC6P0M-01110-00220680-00220839 downplay the atonement of jesus christ VoUZMSC6P0M-01111-00220840-00221015 or downplay the importance of scriptures VoUZMSC6P0M-01112-00221016-00221119 and stuff like that VoUZMSC6P0M-01113-00221119-00221294 and that's one thing i love because like VoUZMSC6P0M-01114-00221296-00221415 there's a point in my life where i was VoUZMSC6P0M-01115-00221416-00221534 like learning more about the VoUZMSC6P0M-01116-00221535-00221734 protestant church well sorry like a VoUZMSC6P0M-01117-00221735-00221910 protestant church not the one VoUZMSC6P0M-01118-00221911-00222094 and one i one thing i love that i took VoUZMSC6P0M-01119-00222096-00222303 away from it that i truly loved was VoUZMSC6P0M-01120-00222304-00222527 the importance of studying scripture the VoUZMSC6P0M-01121-00222528-00222639 importance of VoUZMSC6P0M-01122-00222640-00222887 relying on the grace of jesus christ and VoUZMSC6P0M-01123-00222888-00223015 that's something like i still VoUZMSC6P0M-01124-00223016-00223255 hold very heavy weight in today because VoUZMSC6P0M-01125-00223256-00223398 i truly believe that those things are VoUZMSC6P0M-01126-00223400-00223582 pivotal to learn more about VoUZMSC6P0M-01127-00223583-00223775 your lord and savior and also to you VoUZMSC6P0M-01128-00223776-00223958 know learn to rely on grace day by day VoUZMSC6P0M-01129-00223959-00224167 minute by minute second by second moment VoUZMSC6P0M-01130-00224167-00224327 by moment VoUZMSC6P0M-01131-00224328-00224606 yeah so so i don't remember the exact VoUZMSC6P0M-01132-00224607-00225510 wording of the next question VoUZMSC6P0M-01133-00225511-00225679 oh yeah um you encountered any VoUZMSC6P0M-01134-00225680-00225846 principles from church jesus christ that VoUZMSC6P0M-01135-00225848-00226015 have made you a better person or VoUZMSC6P0M-01136-00226016-00226198 anything like that VoUZMSC6P0M-01137-00226200-00226391 i think that was three second of three VoUZMSC6P0M-01138-00226392-00226567 right yeah where there was VoUZMSC6P0M-01139-00226567-00226879 there's a yeah about if there's any um VoUZMSC6P0M-01140-00226880-00227167 other beliefs basically that mormons can VoUZMSC6P0M-01141-00227167-00227279 learn from VoUZMSC6P0M-01142-00227280-00227591 number three that's the third one no VoUZMSC6P0M-01143-00227592-00227646 worries VoUZMSC6P0M-01144-00227648-00227798 don't worry i appreciate you trying to VoUZMSC6P0M-01145-00227800-00227982 have my back other crossley VoUZMSC6P0M-01146-00227983-00228319 yeah on the second one um so immediately VoUZMSC6P0M-01147-00228319-00228406 what comes to mind VoUZMSC6P0M-01148-00228407-00228742 is my co-workers um in utah VoUZMSC6P0M-01149-00228744-00228934 and the sample's probably skewed because VoUZMSC6P0M-01150-00228935-00229063 i just get to work with some really cool VoUZMSC6P0M-01151-00229064-00229119 people VoUZMSC6P0M-01152-00229119-00229215 so i don't know if that's a VoUZMSC6P0M-01153-00229216-00229391 representative sample of utah in general VoUZMSC6P0M-01154-00229392-00229446 but VoUZMSC6P0M-01155-00229448-00229879 um you know and again i VoUZMSC6P0M-01156-00229880-00230055 as a protestant i think all of the best VoUZMSC6P0M-01157-00230056-00230255 things about mormonism and all the best VoUZMSC6P0M-01158-00230256-00230439 things about my ladies neighbors VoUZMSC6P0M-01159-00230440-00230655 are downstream borrowed i'd even say VoUZMSC6P0M-01160-00230656-00230806 stolen from VoUZMSC6P0M-01161-00230807-00231006 historic judeo christianity and and the VoUZMSC6P0M-01162-00231007-00231151 sort of their echoes of the VoUZMSC6P0M-01163-00231152-00231423 biblical worldview but um the the VoUZMSC6P0M-01164-00231423-00231567 co-workers that i get to work with in VoUZMSC6P0M-01165-00231567-00231671 utah VoUZMSC6P0M-01166-00231671-00232063 are um hardworking they're enthusiastic VoUZMSC6P0M-01167-00232064-00232358 they're humble um they're really easy to VoUZMSC6P0M-01168-00232359-00232487 work with they're really easy to become VoUZMSC6P0M-01169-00232488-00232671 friends with um and so VoUZMSC6P0M-01170-00232671-00232823 i mean i can't not become a better VoUZMSC6P0M-01171-00232823-00233119 person um i can't not benefit VoUZMSC6P0M-01172-00233119-00233391 i'll say from working in the community VoUZMSC6P0M-01173-00233392-00233558 with people like that i'm better off for VoUZMSC6P0M-01174-00233559-00233751 i wouldn't want to be i mean that's what VoUZMSC6P0M-01175-00233752-00233863 stinks about covid VoUZMSC6P0M-01176-00233864-00234039 partly we're all stuck at home and we're VoUZMSC6P0M-01177-00234040-00234198 all doing zoom but homework is not the VoUZMSC6P0M-01178-00234200-00234294 same VoUZMSC6P0M-01179-00234296-00234551 yeah i want to be in an office with my VoUZMSC6P0M-01180-00234552-00234694 utah neighbors VoUZMSC6P0M-01181-00234696-00234998 um uh working together sweating together VoUZMSC6P0M-01182-00235000-00235046 as it were VoUZMSC6P0M-01183-00235048-00235303 i'm programmers who don't really sweat VoUZMSC6P0M-01184-00235304-00235494 but i i want to work hard together VoUZMSC6P0M-01185-00235496-00235719 and accomplish great things together and VoUZMSC6P0M-01186-00235719-00235910 um rub off on each other because i VoUZMSC6P0M-01187-00235911-00236134 i i love my latter-day saint co-workers VoUZMSC6P0M-01188-00236135-00236271 i think they're VoUZMSC6P0M-01189-00236271-00236575 uh people worth worth imitating yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-01190-00236576-00236775 honestly that that's really awesome like VoUZMSC6P0M-01191-00236776-00236887 that that's really cool VoUZMSC6P0M-01192-00236888-00237039 i'm glad you have such good co-workers VoUZMSC6P0M-01193-00237040-00237231 and i'm kind of jealous because the one VoUZMSC6P0M-01194-00237232-00237375 time i had a job my co-workers were not VoUZMSC6P0M-01195-00237376-00237542 that good VoUZMSC6P0M-01196-00237544-00237727 to be fair one of them was was my VoUZMSC6P0M-01197-00237728-00237927 brother so VoUZMSC6P0M-01198-00237928-00238110 yeah carry over the relationship the VoUZMSC6P0M-01199-00238111-00238303 workplace yeah yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-01200-00238304-00238479 those relationships never are the best VoUZMSC6P0M-01201-00238480-00238727 yeah yeah so then the last part of that VoUZMSC6P0M-01202-00238728-00238871 question is you know um VoUZMSC6P0M-01203-00238871-00238982 is there anything you think like VoUZMSC6P0M-01204-00238983-00239151 latter-day saints could like do better VoUZMSC6P0M-01205-00239152-00239303 or learn more about or anything like VoUZMSC6P0M-01206-00239304-00239431 that VoUZMSC6P0M-01207-00239432-00239742 so i've been doing evangelism for uh VoUZMSC6P0M-01208-00239744-00239942 about 14 years and one of the neat VoUZMSC6P0M-01209-00239944-00240079 things about going to downtown salt lake VoUZMSC6P0M-01210-00240080-00240127 city VoUZMSC6P0M-01211-00240128-00240303 is we get to meet people who are VoUZMSC6P0M-01212-00240304-00240582 tourists or business convention goers or VoUZMSC6P0M-01213-00240583-00240927 skiers and when we meet people who are VoUZMSC6P0M-01214-00240928-00241110 from california VoUZMSC6P0M-01215-00241111-00241487 or chicago or new york you know um VoUZMSC6P0M-01216-00241488-00241727 there seems to be a more immediate VoUZMSC6P0M-01217-00241728-00241934 willingness to have VoUZMSC6P0M-01218-00241935-00242223 interfaith discussions that are um i'm VoUZMSC6P0M-01219-00242223-00242382 not i wouldn't project VoUZMSC6P0M-01220-00242383-00242534 this contrast i'm about to make on you VoUZMSC6P0M-01221-00242535-00242663 by the way at a personal level it's just VoUZMSC6P0M-01222-00242664-00242815 a general observation VoUZMSC6P0M-01223-00242816-00243015 um the but the people i meet from VoUZMSC6P0M-01224-00243016-00243167 california in chicago and new york VoUZMSC6P0M-01225-00243167-00243406 in general huge exceptions but in VoUZMSC6P0M-01226-00243407-00243519 general they're more VoUZMSC6P0M-01227-00243519-00243727 immediately willing to have uh difficult VoUZMSC6P0M-01228-00243728-00243863 conversations about VoUZMSC6P0M-01229-00243864-00244087 uh faith where you contrast your beliefs VoUZMSC6P0M-01230-00244088-00244279 you you defend and advocate for the VoUZMSC6P0M-01231-00244280-00244367 truth you VoUZMSC6P0M-01232-00244367-00244687 you sort of hash things out you um VoUZMSC6P0M-01233-00244688-00244934 um you go back and forth you get to VoUZMSC6P0M-01234-00244935-00245046 learn a lot more about each other but VoUZMSC6P0M-01235-00245048-00245182 you get to VoUZMSC6P0M-01236-00245183-00245439 point to the truth and really just VoUZMSC6P0M-01237-00245440-00245646 extract out the most important things VoUZMSC6P0M-01238-00245648-00245758 and have a really VoUZMSC6P0M-01239-00245759-00246094 hearty spirited uh discussion yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-01240-00246096-00246263 um about it and there's a lot of there's VoUZMSC6P0M-01241-00246264-00246415 a lot of satisfaction in that at VoUZMSC6P0M-01242-00246416-00246534 different levels VoUZMSC6P0M-01243-00246535-00246846 um and a lot of pleasure to be had um VoUZMSC6P0M-01244-00246848-00247039 among the secondary benefits are i get VoUZMSC6P0M-01245-00247040-00247206 to make friends and i get to connect VoUZMSC6P0M-01246-00247207-00247287 with people that are VoUZMSC6P0M-01247-00247288-00247551 very different from me um it's really VoUZMSC6P0M-01248-00247552-00247782 cool i think in utah VoUZMSC6P0M-01249-00247783-00247887 i don't know if this is latter-day VoUZMSC6P0M-01250-00247888-00248055 saints in general but in utah there VoUZMSC6P0M-01251-00248056-00248206 seems to be a little bit more of it VoUZMSC6P0M-01252-00248207-00248430 a lot more sensitivity uh maybe a little VoUZMSC6P0M-01253-00248431-00248606 bit more skittishness about having VoUZMSC6P0M-01254-00248607-00248934 um spirited discussions uh between VoUZMSC6P0M-01255-00248935-00249087 different faiths and there's a VoUZMSC6P0M-01256-00249088-00249287 there's a kind of um that can lead to VoUZMSC6P0M-01257-00249288-00249423 passive aggressiveness VoUZMSC6P0M-01258-00249423-00249663 or kind of like um false sweetness or VoUZMSC6P0M-01259-00249664-00249775 just avoidance VoUZMSC6P0M-01260-00249776-00250079 and so um i don't resent that it for VoUZMSC6P0M-01261-00250080-00250223 us on the street what it just means is VoUZMSC6P0M-01262-00250223-00250423 that we try to practice VoUZMSC6P0M-01263-00250423-00250710 extra sensitivity extra gentleness VoUZMSC6P0M-01264-00250711-00250806 because we know there's different VoUZMSC6P0M-01265-00250807-00251110 cultural um thresholds for what you can VoUZMSC6P0M-01266-00251111-00251151 do VoUZMSC6P0M-01267-00251152-00251294 yes you could probably just it's VoUZMSC6P0M-01268-00251296-00251446 probably leaking out of me i'm probably VoUZMSC6P0M-01269-00251448-00251615 on the spectrum of VoUZMSC6P0M-01270-00251616-00251806 let's talk till 2 a.m in the morning and VoUZMSC6P0M-01271-00251807-00251951 just hash everything out have fun VoUZMSC6P0M-01272-00251952-00252175 uh as down as i am unfortunately no not VoUZMSC6P0M-01273-00252176-00252271 today VoUZMSC6P0M-01274-00252271-00252542 yeah yeah that's okay but i i'm i'm more VoUZMSC6P0M-01275-00252544-00252591 uh VoUZMSC6P0M-01276-00252592-00252919 overt and um i think utahns are VoUZMSC6P0M-01277-00252919-00253287 um uh a lot of people have VoUZMSC6P0M-01278-00253288-00253710 grown up watching fox news um VoUZMSC6P0M-01279-00253711-00253975 debates devolve and i've been a part of VoUZMSC6P0M-01280-00253976-00254127 debates that devolve into VoUZMSC6P0M-01281-00254128-00254398 just bad behavior but um but a lot of VoUZMSC6P0M-01282-00254400-00254494 people VoUZMSC6P0M-01283-00254496-00254703 are scared about having religious or VoUZMSC6P0M-01284-00254704-00254871 political discussions around VoUZMSC6P0M-01285-00254871-00255015 you know the thanksgiving table because VoUZMSC6P0M-01286-00255016-00255206 they just want to keep the peace VoUZMSC6P0M-01287-00255207-00255503 and so i think what we need in utah is VoUZMSC6P0M-01288-00255504-00255646 like better role models and better VoUZMSC6P0M-01289-00255648-00255751 examples VoUZMSC6P0M-01290-00255752-00256006 of situations where people are able to VoUZMSC6P0M-01291-00256007-00256087 have VoUZMSC6P0M-01292-00256088-00256398 really helpful spirited discussions VoUZMSC6P0M-01293-00256400-00256806 about things that most matter VoUZMSC6P0M-01294-00256807-00257039 in a way that's repeatable and like that VoUZMSC6P0M-01295-00257040-00257158 that's something i actually very much VoUZMSC6P0M-01296-00257159-00257294 agree with so as a missionary you know VoUZMSC6P0M-01297-00257296-00257446 we go out and we talk to people all the VoUZMSC6P0M-01298-00257448-00257510 time VoUZMSC6P0M-01299-00257511-00257639 and there are people who like want to VoUZMSC6P0M-01300-00257640-00257782 hear from us and people who really don't VoUZMSC6P0M-01301-00257783-00257919 want to hear from us VoUZMSC6P0M-01302-00257919-00258175 but the thing that i always love is we VoUZMSC6P0M-01303-00258176-00258246 believe VoUZMSC6P0M-01304-00258248-00258487 you know each religion has like some VoUZMSC6P0M-01305-00258488-00258710 foundational like good truth in it VoUZMSC6P0M-01306-00258711-00258894 you know like we believe like our church VoUZMSC6P0M-01307-00258896-00259030 has all of it but each religion has a VoUZMSC6P0M-01308-00259031-00259182 little piece of like good foundational VoUZMSC6P0M-01309-00259183-00259271 truth VoUZMSC6P0M-01310-00259271-00259534 and that's one thing i love is i've seen VoUZMSC6P0M-01311-00259535-00259663 a lot of religions where a lot of people VoUZMSC6P0M-01312-00259664-00259830 like discounted or VoUZMSC6P0M-01313-00259831-00259991 or like don't understand something or VoUZMSC6P0M-01314-00259992-00260175 whatever where they just kind of VoUZMSC6P0M-01315-00260176-00260351 don't see that good foundational truth VoUZMSC6P0M-01316-00260352-00260527 in it and that's one thing i love about VoUZMSC6P0M-01317-00260528-00260734 like having spirited discussions or like VoUZMSC6P0M-01318-00260735-00260903 just having discussions in general VoUZMSC6P0M-01319-00260904-00261046 is you can learn more about your own VoUZMSC6P0M-01320-00261048-00261182 faith and learn more about your lord and VoUZMSC6P0M-01321-00261183-00261375 savior jesus christ from them VoUZMSC6P0M-01322-00261376-00261591 and like don't don't be afraid like it's VoUZMSC6P0M-01323-00261592-00261767 gonna change your worldview or whatever VoUZMSC6P0M-01324-00261767-00261839 because VoUZMSC6P0M-01325-00261840-00262071 honestly it's good to learn more like VoUZMSC6P0M-01326-00262071-00262223 there's no such thing as bad knowledge VoUZMSC6P0M-01327-00262224-00262295 in my opinion VoUZMSC6P0M-01328-00262296-00262558 all knowledge is good knowledge yeah i VoUZMSC6P0M-01329-00262559-00262615 agree VoUZMSC6P0M-01330-00262616-00262855 in one part especially is that um when i VoUZMSC6P0M-01331-00262856-00263047 interact with people who VoUZMSC6P0M-01332-00263048-00263247 are very different from my in their VoUZMSC6P0M-01333-00263248-00263358 worldview VoUZMSC6P0M-01334-00263359-00263639 it causes me to triangulate it causes me VoUZMSC6P0M-01335-00263640-00263687 to like VoUZMSC6P0M-01336-00263688-00263991 situate what i believe in contrast or in VoUZMSC6P0M-01337-00263992-00264271 comparison to other worldviews VoUZMSC6P0M-01338-00264272-00264391 and so i have to think more clearly VoUZMSC6P0M-01339-00264392-00264682 about it if i'm stuck in a bubble in a VoUZMSC6P0M-01340-00264683-00264806 homogeny VoUZMSC6P0M-01341-00264807-00264975 i'm just floating downstream and i just VoUZMSC6P0M-01342-00264976-00265110 assume that what i've taught VoUZMSC6P0M-01343-00265111-00265263 what i'm taught is true but when i have VoUZMSC6P0M-01344-00265264-00265471 to start putting my beliefs VoUZMSC6P0M-01345-00265472-00265743 under the light of scrutiny and then you VoUZMSC6P0M-01346-00265744-00265879 know comparing and contrasting them to VoUZMSC6P0M-01347-00265880-00265943 other beliefs VoUZMSC6P0M-01348-00265944-00266082 i learn a lot about myself and other VoUZMSC6P0M-01349-00266083-00266415 people it also causes me to doubt VoUZMSC6P0M-01350-00266416-00266582 in a good way it causes me to go do VoUZMSC6P0M-01351-00266583-00266830 homework it causes me to VoUZMSC6P0M-01352-00266831-00267143 um reconsider VoUZMSC6P0M-01353-00267144-00267447 someone might say that's not i posted a VoUZMSC6P0M-01354-00267448-00267543 verse on VoUZMSC6P0M-01355-00267544-00267703 facebook this morning by the way and my VoUZMSC6P0M-01356-00267704-00267871 friend kindly VoUZMSC6P0M-01357-00267872-00268158 commented and said in a number of words VoUZMSC6P0M-01358-00268159-00268295 i don't think that's what the context VoUZMSC6P0M-01359-00268296-00268358 means VoUZMSC6P0M-01360-00268359-00268623 and i took it i took it down and i i was VoUZMSC6P0M-01361-00268624-00268695 like VoUZMSC6P0M-01362-00268696-00269006 i actually think i saw that it was like VoUZMSC6P0M-01363-00269007-00269334 gideon being brave or gideon being a VoUZMSC6P0M-01364-00269335-00269671 uh a noble man who was uh VoUZMSC6P0M-01365-00269672-00269958 uh the angel of the lord like if you VoUZMSC6P0M-01366-00269959-00270095 take the verse out of context it sounds VoUZMSC6P0M-01367-00270096-00270206 like he's being commended VoUZMSC6P0M-01368-00270207-00270487 but it's really just sort of a a VoUZMSC6P0M-01369-00270488-00270639 forecast of what will later VoUZMSC6P0M-01370-00270640-00270815 he has a calling that will later be VoUZMSC6P0M-01371-00270816-00270982 fleshed out but he's at that point in VoUZMSC6P0M-01372-00270983-00271071 history pretty VoUZMSC6P0M-01373-00271072-00271375 skittish and uh anyway my bigger point VoUZMSC6P0M-01374-00271376-00271447 is VoUZMSC6P0M-01375-00271448-00271743 when i when i'm in a community of my own VoUZMSC6P0M-01376-00271744-00271823 and with other VoUZMSC6P0M-01377-00271824-00271943 uh when i'm interacting with other VoUZMSC6P0M-01378-00271944-00272223 communities um it forces me VoUZMSC6P0M-01379-00272224-00272606 to um be corrected and it forces me to VoUZMSC6P0M-01380-00272607-00272982 look at the evidence and VoUZMSC6P0M-01381-00272983-00273110 i have to you know everyone's going to VoUZMSC6P0M-01382-00273111-00273295 ask yourself whether they're an atheist VoUZMSC6P0M-01383-00273296-00273327 or VoUZMSC6P0M-01384-00273328-00273599 in a religion am i crazy am i just VoUZMSC6P0M-01385-00273600-00273727 believing this because i've been taught VoUZMSC6P0M-01386-00273728-00273871 this VoUZMSC6P0M-01387-00273872-00274063 am i do i have motivated reasoning for VoUZMSC6P0M-01388-00274064-00274206 believing this because VoUZMSC6P0M-01389-00274207-00274519 of my current social situation and so VoUZMSC6P0M-01390-00274520-00274599 having these interfaith VoUZMSC6P0M-01391-00274600-00275063 discussions or evangelistic encounters VoUZMSC6P0M-01392-00275064-00275430 really helps me VoUZMSC6P0M-01393-00275431-00275679 re-evaluate things for better so yeah VoUZMSC6P0M-01394-00275680-00275758 and VoUZMSC6P0M-01395-00275759-00275967 honestly that i completely agree like VoUZMSC6P0M-01396-00275968-00276110 that's the thing i love whenever i get VoUZMSC6P0M-01397-00276111-00276263 in like a doctrinal discussion they've VoUZMSC6P0M-01398-00276264-00276375 mentioned something that i don't know VoUZMSC6P0M-01399-00276376-00276575 about i love doing that homework i love VoUZMSC6P0M-01400-00276576-00276719 learning more about what i believe VoUZMSC6P0M-01401-00276720-00276927 because as as i'm sure you and i both VoUZMSC6P0M-01402-00276928-00277047 know religion isn't just VoUZMSC6P0M-01403-00277048-00277303 oh one day i get it like i know it all VoUZMSC6P0M-01404-00277304-00277423 i'm good VoUZMSC6P0M-01405-00277424-00277599 like religion is constant homework VoUZMSC6P0M-01406-00277600-00277767 constant learning constant VoUZMSC6P0M-01407-00277768-00277927 just learning more about who jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-01408-00277928-00278095 christ is who god is what they mean to VoUZMSC6P0M-01409-00278096-00278239 your relationship with them VoUZMSC6P0M-01410-00278240-00278487 and honestly i love that so the just the VoUZMSC6P0M-01411-00278488-00278639 last question we have for you aaron VoUZMSC6P0M-01412-00278640-00278743 is is there anything you'd like VoUZMSC6P0M-01413-00278744-00278855 recommend for people in these VoUZMSC6P0M-01414-00278856-00279055 challenging times covet 19 to like help VoUZMSC6P0M-01415-00279056-00279310 them out or anything like that VoUZMSC6P0M-01416-00279311-00279615 um there's a book by john piper on covet VoUZMSC6P0M-01417-00279616-00279767 19 that i think people should take a VoUZMSC6P0M-01418-00279768-00279982 look at VoUZMSC6P0M-01419-00279983-00280399 but i would revisit the earlier uh VoUZMSC6P0M-01420-00280400-00280606 recommendation that people go back to VoUZMSC6P0M-01421-00280607-00280767 the scriptures and pick one of the four VoUZMSC6P0M-01422-00280768-00280887 gospels VoUZMSC6P0M-01423-00280888-00281215 um i i think about it like VoUZMSC6P0M-01424-00281216-00281534 a route you take every morning to work VoUZMSC6P0M-01425-00281535-00281806 or a path you've hiked a lot is when you VoUZMSC6P0M-01426-00281807-00281982 when you're familiar enough with a path VoUZMSC6P0M-01427-00281983-00282143 you start to know it really well VoUZMSC6P0M-01428-00282144-00282447 like the back of your hand and i think VoUZMSC6P0M-01429-00282448-00282479 it VoUZMSC6P0M-01430-00282480-00282671 it behooves everyone who claims to be a VoUZMSC6P0M-01431-00282672-00282791 disciple of jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-01432-00282792-00283055 to pick one of the four gospels and to VoUZMSC6P0M-01433-00283056-00283110 know it VoUZMSC6P0M-01434-00283111-00283415 so well um i mean if you need to treat VoUZMSC6P0M-01435-00283416-00283534 it like an academic VoUZMSC6P0M-01436-00283535-00283687 academic exercise at least for like a VoUZMSC6P0M-01437-00283688-00283855 week or two or up front you know for a VoUZMSC6P0M-01438-00283856-00283951 long time take notes VoUZMSC6P0M-01439-00283952-00284143 journal whole nine yards just go for can VoUZMSC6P0M-01440-00284144-00284310 you pick a chapter and know what it's VoUZMSC6P0M-01441-00284311-00284391 about do you know VoUZMSC6P0M-01442-00284392-00284687 sort of the the winding path of it do VoUZMSC6P0M-01443-00284688-00284710 you VoUZMSC6P0M-01444-00284711-00284903 are you familiar are you feeling the VoUZMSC6P0M-01445-00284904-00285054 historical context of who it's being VoUZMSC6P0M-01446-00285055-00285199 written to why it's being written VoUZMSC6P0M-01447-00285200-00285358 stuff like that can you finish the VoUZMSC6P0M-01448-00285359-00285527 sentences of other people who are VoUZMSC6P0M-01449-00285528-00285599 quoting VoUZMSC6P0M-01450-00285600-00285847 or at least can you if you have you're VoUZMSC6P0M-01451-00285848-00285943 probably getting ready to have kids VoUZMSC6P0M-01452-00285944-00286079 someday if you VoUZMSC6P0M-01453-00286080-00286351 if you have a five-year-old can you tell VoUZMSC6P0M-01454-00286352-00286534 the stories at a dinner table VoUZMSC6P0M-01455-00286535-00286758 and i mean i want to be a missionary to VoUZMSC6P0M-01456-00286759-00286871 my kids so i VoUZMSC6P0M-01457-00286872-00287167 i would i would encourage people to VoUZMSC6P0M-01458-00287168-00287367 reassess the person of jesus christ VoUZMSC6P0M-01459-00287368-00287654 on the basis of his words in scripture VoUZMSC6P0M-01460-00287655-00287791 in his works VoUZMSC6P0M-01461-00287792-00287951 and let them have more authority than VoUZMSC6P0M-01462-00287952-00288127 our feelings more authority than VoUZMSC6P0M-01463-00288128-00288358 i mean our feelings are going to be so VoUZMSC6P0M-01464-00288359-00288551 fickle in a coveted season VoUZMSC6P0M-01465-00288552-00288782 we're going to have seasons of um VoUZMSC6P0M-01466-00288783-00288887 feeling uh VoUZMSC6P0M-01467-00288888-00289215 anxious or aloof or apathetic or VoUZMSC6P0M-01468-00289216-00289519 burnt out and or vigilant ah like we we VoUZMSC6P0M-01469-00289520-00289703 have got to take scripture VoUZMSC6P0M-01470-00289704-00289943 and put our feelings under scripture and VoUZMSC6P0M-01471-00289944-00290167 let scripture VoUZMSC6P0M-01472-00290168-00290406 tame our feelings and subordinate our VoUZMSC6P0M-01473-00290407-00290558 feelings VoUZMSC6P0M-01474-00290559-00290910 and jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-01475-00290911-00291127 religion is not a game it's not just a VoUZMSC6P0M-01476-00291128-00291415 fun intellectual exercise VoUZMSC6P0M-01477-00291416-00291671 covid is going to be over at some point VoUZMSC6P0M-01478-00291672-00291799 and we're going to be attempting to go VoUZMSC6P0M-01479-00291800-00291895 straight back to VoUZMSC6P0M-01480-00291896-00292247 netflix social media computer games VoUZMSC6P0M-01481-00292248-00292463 or infotainment we're going to be not VoUZMSC6P0M-01482-00292464-00292687 about thinking about god or eternity VoUZMSC6P0M-01483-00292688-00293023 or death or life so if we should VoUZMSC6P0M-01484-00293024-00293279 use this as an opportunity to revisit VoUZMSC6P0M-01485-00293280-00293343 the things that are VoUZMSC6P0M-01486-00293344-00293623 most important and care more about that VoUZMSC6P0M-01487-00293624-00293654 than VoUZMSC6P0M-01488-00293655-00293823 anything else in the whole world more VoUZMSC6P0M-01489-00293824-00293999 important than the stimulus package VoUZMSC6P0M-01490-00294000-00294223 more important than um whether you find VoUZMSC6P0M-01491-00294224-00294375 a wife more important than whether your VoUZMSC6P0M-01492-00294376-00294534 girlfriend breaks up with you VoUZMSC6P0M-01493-00294535-00294639 i don't know if you guys have VoUZMSC6P0M-01494-00294640-00294806 girlfriends i don't know if you don't VoUZMSC6P0M-01495-00294807-00294839 think VoUZMSC6P0M-01496-00294840-00295071 anybody write letters but knowing the VoUZMSC6P0M-01497-00295072-00295263 words of jesus VoUZMSC6P0M-01498-00295264-00295606 matters uh what does jesus say he says VoUZMSC6P0M-01499-00295607-00295879 heaven and earth will pass away but my VoUZMSC6P0M-01500-00295880-00296079 words will never pass away VoUZMSC6P0M-01501-00296080-00296334 jesus says in john 6 my words are full VoUZMSC6P0M-01502-00296335-00296382 of VoUZMSC6P0M-01503-00296383-00296671 the spirit and of life and jesus says in VoUZMSC6P0M-01504-00296672-00296751 john 5 VoUZMSC6P0M-01505-00296752-00297006 whoever hears my words and believes him VoUZMSC6P0M-01506-00297007-00297143 who sent me VoUZMSC6P0M-01507-00297144-00297527 has eternal life so yeah and honestly VoUZMSC6P0M-01508-00297528-00297799 i agree like i think in this time one VoUZMSC6P0M-01509-00297800-00297927 great way to help is to VoUZMSC6P0M-01510-00297928-00298167 delve deep into your scriptures like VoUZMSC6P0M-01511-00298168-00298287 read the bible VoUZMSC6P0M-01512-00298288-00298495 as we would say read the book of mormon VoUZMSC6P0M-01513-00298496-00298695 like get get familiar with them one VoUZMSC6P0M-01514-00298696-00298806 thing i love VoUZMSC6P0M-01515-00298807-00298943 that you said when you're talking VoUZMSC6P0M-01516-00298944-00299063 earlier about like do you know the VoUZMSC6P0M-01517-00299064-00299191 stories well if you could teach your VoUZMSC6P0M-01518-00299192-00299310 child them VoUZMSC6P0M-01519-00299311-00299487 it was a quote from john taylor it is VoUZMSC6P0M-01520-00299488-00299654 true wisdom and true knowledge to take VoUZMSC6P0M-01521-00299655-00299815 something that is complex grand and VoUZMSC6P0M-01522-00299816-00299991 mysterious and simplified to the point VoUZMSC6P0M-01523-00299992-00300215 where a child can understand it VoUZMSC6P0M-01524-00300216-00300367 and that's one thing i love like VoUZMSC6P0M-01525-00300368-00300567 honestly take that time get familiar VoUZMSC6P0M-01526-00300568-00300687 with your scriptures get that VoUZMSC6P0M-01527-00300688-00300887 relationship with jesus christ it's VoUZMSC6P0M-01528-00300888-00301079 it's pivotal that it's going to be VoUZMSC6P0M-01529-00301080-00301279 needed long after covet's done it's VoUZMSC6P0M-01530-00301280-00301439 going to be needed VoUZMSC6P0M-01531-00301440-00301567 it's going to be needed now it's going VoUZMSC6P0M-01532-00301568-00301719 to be needed forever to have that VoUZMSC6P0M-01533-00301720-00301895 relationship to have that knowledge to VoUZMSC6P0M-01534-00301896-00302063 have your scriptures with you VoUZMSC6P0M-01535-00302064-00302199 but aaron i just want to say thank you VoUZMSC6P0M-01536-00302200-00302310 so much for being with us today and VoUZMSC6P0M-01537-00302311-00302454 thank you for being willing to VoUZMSC6P0M-01538-00302455-00302630 be you bet i'd shake your hand but 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V3Ylb4QHvy4-00012-00006168-00007226 oh wait this guy is holding a hey if V3Ylb4QHvy4-00013-00007227-00007355 your buddy my name is Oscar to see us V3Ylb4QHvy4-00014-00007356-00007658 and welcome back to half believe I'd V3Ylb4QHvy4-00015-00007659-00007895 burn myself there V3Ylb4QHvy4-00016-00007895-00008075 am i quick loading because I feel like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00017-00008076-00008378 it hey everybody welcome back to I'll V3Ylb4QHvy4-00018-00008379-00008966 start to see his plays half didn't give V3Ylb4QHvy4-00019-00008967-00009572 me hugs headcrabs hugs always with his V3Ylb4QHvy4-00020-00009573-00009932 headcrab are you a good head crap come V3Ylb4QHvy4-00021-00009933-00010754 here come here come here come here V3Ylb4QHvy4-00022-00010755-00011009 give me your head crabby for your head V3Ylb4QHvy4-00023-00011010-00011708 crab look at those expertly placed shots V3Ylb4QHvy4-00024-00011709-00012221 oh my god did you see that that just V3Ylb4QHvy4-00025-00012222-00012784 took 96 off my health and all of my over V3Ylb4QHvy4-00026-00012785-00012991 so I thought to change this bit let's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00027-00012992-00013147 not go for that magazine because that's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00028-00013149-00013826 a bit bad um yeah I know quick loading V3Ylb4QHvy4-00029-00013827-00013961 yeah yeah yeah whatever V3Ylb4QHvy4-00030-00013962-00014557 open that up and that up why not yeah oh V3Ylb4QHvy4-00031-00014558-00014888 no I have to animate the crowbar flying V3Ylb4QHvy4-00032-00014888-00015428 into something yeah coming out my V3Ylb4QHvy4-00033-00015429-00015899 pretties be free I'm like all your Cola V3Ylb4QHvy4-00034-00015900-00015929 please V3Ylb4QHvy4-00035-00015930-00018158 that's not Cola what is that audio audio V3Ylb4QHvy4-00036-00018159-00018703 is like are you hearing that like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00037-00018704-00019511 alternating ears hopefully that's not V3Ylb4QHvy4-00038-00019512-00019811 what you're hearing V3Ylb4QHvy4-00039-00019812-00020161 Annie had turned down the volume excuse V3Ylb4QHvy4-00040-00020162-00020364 me thank you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00041-00020365-00020661 turn down the volume V3Ylb4QHvy4-00042-00020662-00021122 yeah now that sounds right V3Ylb4QHvy4-00043-00021123-00021269 you can tell it's not actually V3Ylb4QHvy4-00044-00021270-00021439 descending because when you jump the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00045-00021440-00021818 physics doesn't go all janky or all V3Ylb4QHvy4-00046-00021819-00022353 wonky and that happens in half like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00047-00022354-00022907 regular weight really that's all the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00048-00022908-00023207 back chapter was I could have sworn V3Ylb4QHvy4-00049-00023208-00023461 there was more to that chapter oh no no V3Ylb4QHvy4-00050-00023462-00023911 we go back there don't we don't we don't V3Ylb4QHvy4-00051-00023912-00024247 you go back there don't we that's right V3Ylb4QHvy4-00052-00024248-00024464 am I going in completely the wrong V3Ylb4QHvy4-00053-00024465-00024928 direction yes this is where I ended last V3Ylb4QHvy4-00054-00024929-00025930 episode hahaha where I'm a dumb boy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00055-00025931-00026452 oh that would have bet almost with some V3Ylb4QHvy4-00056-00026452-00026683 super speedrunner crap right there see V3Ylb4QHvy4-00057-00026683-00026830 that that was Kermie great V3Ylb4QHvy4-00058-00026831-00026989 we need to get over there without V3Ylb4QHvy4-00059-00026989-00027633 getting zapped Errol needing is our goal V3Ylb4QHvy4-00060-00027633-00027880 oh wait no that's exactly what that was V3Ylb4QHvy4-00061-00027881-00028762 for hello barnacles Oh barnacles oh here V3Ylb4QHvy4-00062-00028763-00028798 we go V3Ylb4QHvy4-00063-00028799-00029244 Oh cows head in the wrong direction yeah V3Ylb4QHvy4-00064-00029245-00029725 this is actually also level in the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00065-00029726-00029854 original Deus Ex V3Ylb4QHvy4-00066-00029855-00030145 I mean there's a section that's very V3Ylb4QHvy4-00067-00030145-00030358 similar to this particular section here V3Ylb4QHvy4-00068-00030358-00031314 in Deus Ex 1 because I think it's near V3Ylb4QHvy4-00069-00031316-00031723 the end of the game they're trying to V3Ylb4QHvy4-00070-00031724-00031870 find that guy's daughter or something I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00071-00031870-00031965 don't know it's been a while since I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00072-00031966-00032407 played it ya know it's the part where V3Ylb4QHvy4-00073-00032408-00032536 you get the mission to find that guy's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00074-00032537-00033718 daughter well anyway um crash yeah they V3Ylb4QHvy4-00075-00033719-00034002 can ignore that yes at that part where V3Ylb4QHvy4-00076-00034003-00034294 that section is sort of I don't know if V3Ylb4QHvy4-00077-00034295-00034420 it's at all mosh or if it's just a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00078-00034421-00034746 coincidence but Mikey one of those two V3Ylb4QHvy4-00079-00034747-00034971 half life was a fairly popular game when V3Ylb4QHvy4-00080-00034972-00035280 it released to save the absolute least V3Ylb4QHvy4-00081-00035281-00035802 there's a jump scare here yep what a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00082-00035803-00036224 good boy or a spooky boy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00083-00036225-00037083 so it is Tuesday January 2nd 2018 Happy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00084-00037084-00037530 New Year y'all I realize actually now V3Ylb4QHvy4-00085-00037531-00037635 that I think about it that I probably V3Ylb4QHvy4-00086-00037636-00037874 shouldn't say the dates that I'm V3Ylb4QHvy4-00087-00037875-00038099 recording this videos in because that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00088-00038100-00038757 will date these videos okay only one V3Ylb4QHvy4-00089-00038758-00039068 shot needed I will super date these V3Ylb4QHvy4-00090-00039069-00039633 videos and like I record these videos V3Ylb4QHvy4-00091-00039634-00039893 ahead of time as you can probably tell V3Ylb4QHvy4-00092-00039894-00040287 now from that mistake I made in the last V3Ylb4QHvy4-00093-00040288-00040767 video yeah hi it's alright for the jump V3Ylb4QHvy4-00094-00040768-00041777 skater but jumps here uh zombie there V3Ylb4QHvy4-00095-00041778-00042167 there's it turns out just so you know V3Ylb4QHvy4-00096-00042168-00042474 didn't figure that already it's not a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00097-00042475-00043064 zombie then we got the surface tension V3Ylb4QHvy4-00098-00043065-00043248 yet oh that's a wonderful chapter I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00099-00043249-00043371 don't quite remember because it's been a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00100-00043372-00043724 while since I recorded the last episode V3Ylb4QHvy4-00101-00043725-00044048 because hey who could have thought that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00102-00044049-00044399 winter break would be a little bit busy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00103-00044400-00044861 for some people V3Ylb4QHvy4-00104-00044862-00045306 yeah yeah yeah yeah can you even break V3Ylb4QHvy4-00105-00045307-00045810 that open there even anything abuse in V3Ylb4QHvy4-00106-00045811-00046011 there yep yep okay you can break that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00107-00046012-00047249 open all right so I'm gonna take it oh V3Ylb4QHvy4-00108-00047250-00047427 I'm not happy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00109-00047428-00048072 ah yes ah let's keep on truckin V3Ylb4QHvy4-00110-00048073-00048449 where is the place where we are going V3Ylb4QHvy4-00111-00048450-00049097 this way there we go V3Ylb4QHvy4-00112-00049098-00049938 slice that open is a fun puzzle puzzles V3Ylb4QHvy4-00113-00049939-00050031 over did you like it V3Ylb4QHvy4-00114-00050032-00050334 I've been playing I've been playing V3Ylb4QHvy4-00115-00050335-00050529 Black Mesa not in the interim period but V3Ylb4QHvy4-00116-00050530-00050919 like before that the last half-life game V3Ylb4QHvy4-00117-00050920-00051126 I played was Black Mesa I should say V3Ylb4QHvy4-00118-00051127-00051983 that and that was wow that was not V3Ylb4QHvy4-00119-00051984-00052836 nearly this laggy ah head got cool thank V3Ylb4QHvy4-00120-00052837-00053478 you love you um that was not nearly that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00121-00053479-00053673 a lot of the puzzles excuse me I'm V3Ylb4QHvy4-00122-00053674-00054012 rubbing my a lot of the puzzles were V3Ylb4QHvy4-00123-00054013-00054332 changed in that game in order to V3Ylb4QHvy4-00124-00054333-00054507 streamline them or something that's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00125-00054508-00054621 right that's right there's a thing that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00126-00054622-00054997 is the thing there V3Ylb4QHvy4-00127-00054998-00055622 ah-hah ok turn it off that didn't turn V3Ylb4QHvy4-00128-00055623-00056627 it off yes it did right yup ah crap I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00129-00056628-00058909 just dead V3Ylb4QHvy4-00130-00058910-00059677 I should talk I need to talk I need to V3Ylb4QHvy4-00131-00059678-00059821 be entertaining constantly all the time V3Ylb4QHvy4-00132-00059822-00060232 why am I not entertaining ah you like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00133-00060233-00060946 healing and you only feel like doing you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00134-00060947-00061234 like you can kill headcrabs and two hits V3Ylb4QHvy4-00135-00061235-00061528 from either your pistol or your chrome V3Ylb4QHvy4-00136-00061529-00062077 are oh wait that's less pertinent now V3Ylb4QHvy4-00137-00062078-00062308 because I can mess up horribly what's in V3Ylb4QHvy4-00138-00062309-00062728 here nothing of value V3Ylb4QHvy4-00139-00062729-00064101 oh hi is it iiiii nothing all right V3Ylb4QHvy4-00140-00064102-00064488 smash that in one hit uh-huh look at my V3Ylb4QHvy4-00141-00064489-00065661 FT claws V3Ylb4QHvy4-00142-00065662-00065890 thank you for killing those guys for me V3Ylb4QHvy4-00143-00065891-00066382 you're lovely oh let's go on and slam V3Ylb4QHvy4-00144-00066383-00066682 and welcome to the jam ah how did you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00145-00066683-00066976 leap backwards that does not make sense V3Ylb4QHvy4-00146-00066977-00067493 with your physiology V3Ylb4QHvy4-00147-00067494-00067979 Oh No well the story don't help people V3Ylb4QHvy4-00148-00067980-00068168 you'll only be a drag down that's not V3Ylb4QHvy4-00149-00068169-00068447 true it all help people if you can if it V3Ylb4QHvy4-00150-00068448-00068684 does not completely interfere with your V3Ylb4QHvy4-00151-00068685-00068933 own life that was joke okay V3Ylb4QHvy4-00152-00068934-00070211 don't be a rude boy yeah leave your V3Ylb4QHvy4-00153-00070212-00070577 answers in the comments below I'll pick V3Ylb4QHvy4-00154-00070578-00070879 my favorites in the next episode of yeah V3Ylb4QHvy4-00155-00070880-00071245 uh hello V3Ylb4QHvy4-00156-00071246-00071867 headshot you ever play um Jaya sax it's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00157-00071868-00072455 a good game although if you enunciate V3Ylb4QHvy4-00158-00072456-00072737 yeah my schnoz although if you enunciate V3Ylb4QHvy4-00159-00072738-00072878 things as poorly as me it can be a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00160-00072879-00073604 little bit awkward to talk about sorry V3Ylb4QHvy4-00161-00073605-00074353 about that yeah smooth smoother than a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00162-00074354-00075517 smooth smooth capital smooth nothing V3Ylb4QHvy4-00163-00075518-00075728 world fun talk about what they've done V3Ylb4QHvy4-00164-00075729-00076166 that's Howard E Howard E coward II told V3Ylb4QHvy4-00165-00076167-00077619 Howard E New Year abs V3Ylb4QHvy4-00166-00077620-00078106 I'm sorry about that um let's go over V3Ylb4QHvy4-00167-00078107-00078484 here hi hi there's two of you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00168-00078485-00078716 it's that must be the dark atmosphere V3Ylb4QHvy4-00169-00078717-00079166 this is a horror game a lot of V3Ylb4QHvy4-00170-00079167-00079606 accidental horror games I found such as V3Ylb4QHvy4-00171-00079607-00080026 this one it's a boy there is a boy there V3Ylb4QHvy4-00172-00080027-00080911 a Barnacle Boy in a Mermaid Man uh V3Ylb4QHvy4-00173-00080912-00081134 little long while since I watched V3Ylb4QHvy4-00174-00081135-00081513 spongebob not to frown on anyone who's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00175-00081514-00081710 bought a spongebob V3Ylb4QHvy4-00176-00081711-00081886 obviously everyone has their own tastes V3Ylb4QHvy4-00177-00081887-00082235 and programming and the programs one V3Ylb4QHvy4-00178-00082236-00082397 likes is not necessarily an indication V3Ylb4QHvy4-00179-00082398-00083017 of one's maturity that's my favorite V3Ylb4QHvy4-00180-00083018-00083186 character that tries hard not to offend V3Ylb4QHvy4-00181-00083187-00083705 any one character that I play often V3Ylb4QHvy4-00182-00083706-00083903 because I say a lot of things that could V3Ylb4QHvy4-00183-00083904-00084106 be good news construed under certain V3Ylb4QHvy4-00184-00084107-00084549 circumstances circumstances V3Ylb4QHvy4-00185-00084550-00084848 circumstances half life 1 is better than V3Ylb4QHvy4-00186-00084849-00085137 athletic you have I talked about that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00187-00085138-00085346 vortigaunts are an amazing enemy and I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00188-00085347-00086071 love to fight them they're really fun V3Ylb4QHvy4-00189-00086072-00086305 one of major reasons because the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00190-00086306-00086534 vortigaunt enemy is good and then half V3Ylb4QHvy4-00191-00086535-00086806 of - they're all your allies yeah yeah V3Ylb4QHvy4-00192-00086807-00087137 yeah that's like all of what I talked V3Ylb4QHvy4-00193-00087138-00087382 about in episode 1 though now that I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00194-00087383-00087605 think about it think back way back a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00195-00087606-00088133 week and a half - when I recorded that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00196-00088134-00088410 was how much better half like one wasn't V3Ylb4QHvy4-00197-00088411-00088794 half life 2 that's two of you this is V3Ylb4QHvy4-00198-00088795-00088872 the part of the game that nobody V3Ylb4QHvy4-00199-00088873-00089136 remembers because it's between the cool V3Ylb4QHvy4-00200-00089137-00089622 exposition and the cool combat no we V3Ylb4QHvy4-00201-00089623-00090150 have uh have we'd shoot V3Ylb4QHvy4-00202-00090151-00090731 well I don't know that's where I came V3Ylb4QHvy4-00203-00090732-00090962 from I'm not paying attention to the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00204-00090963-00091116 game much I'm mostly paying attention to V3Ylb4QHvy4-00205-00091117-00091812 y'all uh y'all what a wonderful word V3Ylb4QHvy4-00206-00091813-00092004 y'all peoples just say y'all more often V3Ylb4QHvy4-00207-00092005-00092223 probably talked about that yet in any of V3Ylb4QHvy4-00208-00092224-00092667 my videos will show you keep it people V3Ylb4QHvy4-00209-00092668-00092922 should say y'all more often because it's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00210-00092923-00093631 such a nice work it's so folks eat ah V3Ylb4QHvy4-00211-00093632-00093887 also folks is such a great word because V3Ylb4QHvy4-00212-00093888-00094167 it's also so folksy and literally in the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00213-00094168-00094392 name and is at literally folksy and also V3Ylb4QHvy4-00214-00094393-00094641 full see it is folksy in both meetings V3Ylb4QHvy4-00215-00094642-00094896 of the world word in terms of relating V3Ylb4QHvy4-00216-00094897-00095703 to folks the word and also folksy folksy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00217-00095704-00095862 doesn't really have many synonyms does V3Ylb4QHvy4-00218-00095863-00096237 it oh that's not a headcrab that's you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00219-00096238-00097175 eatin it get dusted get those two am you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00220-00097176-00097650 now a Jones back I don't trust that I'm V3Ylb4QHvy4-00221-00097651-00097824 gonna go explore a little bit cuz you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00222-00097825-00098142 can explore in this game yeah I never V3Ylb4QHvy4-00223-00098143-00098669 said you could explore much um half life V3Ylb4QHvy4-00224-00098670-00099066 man what a game I don't want to talk V3Ylb4QHvy4-00225-00099067-00099873 about just how great this game is V3Ylb4QHvy4-00226-00099874-00100661 I don't want that was the perfect light V3Ylb4QHvy4-00227-00100662-00100836 forgive me Lord V3Ylb4QHvy4-00228-00100837-00100980 not for what I have done but for what V3Ylb4QHvy4-00229-00100981-00102171 I'm about to do yeah V3Ylb4QHvy4-00230-00102172-00102411 teleports behind you nothing personnel V3Ylb4QHvy4-00231-00102413-00102855 kid hi-oh V3Ylb4QHvy4-00232-00102856-00104235 other jokes that use that format I love V3Ylb4QHvy4-00233-00104236-00104483 the sound it makes V3Ylb4QHvy4-00234-00104484-00104752 hey she's cute I wonder what she's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00235-00104753-00105679 listening to no it doesn't really work V3Ylb4QHvy4-00236-00105680-00106018 uh hey look it's the name of the studios V3Ylb4QHvy4-00237-00106019-00106564 it worked on this huh um I don't know V3Ylb4QHvy4-00238-00106565-00107143 let's go let's let's chip on chip this V3Ylb4QHvy4-00239-00107144-00107535 chip even Award for go no actually it is V3Ylb4QHvy4-00240-00107536-00107767 not but that doesn't stop us from trying V3Ylb4QHvy4-00241-00107768-00108016 little visit my favorite bit it's not my V3Ylb4QHvy4-00242-00108017-00108360 favorite bit but it's one of them who or V3Ylb4QHvy4-00243-00108361-00108748 is slightly more [__] is it just me V3Ylb4QHvy4-00244-00108749-00109072 also look at this ice here Wow for water V3Ylb4QHvy4-00245-00109073-00109758 point physics look how you like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00246-00109759-00110089 accelerate obviously you accelerate when V3Ylb4QHvy4-00247-00110090-00110368 you hit look look I'm not you obviously V3Ylb4QHvy4-00248-00110369-00110524 accelerate when you bounce it because V3Ylb4QHvy4-00249-00110525-00110950 you're changing directions but sort of V3Ylb4QHvy4-00250-00110951-00111336 like speed up is what I mean when you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00251-00111338-00111805 hit that which is kind of weird why does V3Ylb4QHvy4-00252-00111806-00112156 that obviously yourself no okay I need V3Ylb4QHvy4-00253-00112157-00112390 to stop correcting things that people V3Ylb4QHvy4-00254-00112391-00112525 probably won't find offensive because V3Ylb4QHvy4-00255-00112526-00112681 people probably won't find an offensive V3Ylb4QHvy4-00256-00112682-00113215 Oh obviously accelerates yeah I'm V3Ylb4QHvy4-00257-00113216-00113368 thinking I might oh my god I could come V3Ylb4QHvy4-00258-00113369-00113572 off as so are sash I'm very smart V3Ylb4QHvy4-00259-00113573-00113851 I don't want to V3Ylb4QHvy4-00260-00113852-00114097 I don't wanna make people think I'm like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00261-00114098-00114604 that oh god what a crude dude I'd have V3Ylb4QHvy4-00262-00114605-00114958 to food be I mean to do something like V3Ylb4QHvy4-00263-00114958-00115095 that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00264-00115096-00116094 yeah good boss well this is a fun bit V3Ylb4QHvy4-00265-00116095-00116545 and ever so slightly frustrating um all V3Ylb4QHvy4-00266-00116546-00116679 right how do you get up there again V3Ylb4QHvy4-00267-00116680-00117009 that's right over here no you're trying V3Ylb4QHvy4-00268-00117010-00117576 to get a fair whoa oh what a rude boy V3Ylb4QHvy4-00269-00117577-00117952 I'll be a rude boy I wasted a lot of V3Ylb4QHvy4-00270-00117953-00118989 ammo our bad guy ya know what's the deal V3Ylb4QHvy4-00271-00118990-00119398 with airline food there's two choices V3Ylb4QHvy4-00272-00119399-00119859 Heather always had a one oh it's me V3Ylb4QHvy4-00273-00119860-00120579 Jerry your fun time companion um I'm so V3Ylb4QHvy4-00274-00120580-00120628 lonely V3Ylb4QHvy4-00275-00120629-00121041 oh that's right something collapses and V3Ylb4QHvy4-00276-00121042-00121511 then you do that or mayhaps there be a V3Ylb4QHvy4-00277-00121513-00122304 or mayhaps there be a ladder yaar Talk V3Ylb4QHvy4-00278-00122305-00122419 Like a Pirate Day didn't know that V3Ylb4QHvy4-00279-00122420-00122579 humans are descended from pirates V3Ylb4QHvy4-00280-00122580-00123013 yeah one fact oh I see so you gotta get V3Ylb4QHvy4-00281-00123014-00123345 into there V3Ylb4QHvy4-00282-00123346-00124628 on puzzle time they're going V3Ylb4QHvy4-00283-00124629-00125038 so that is in fact actually in factually V3Ylb4QHvy4-00284-00125039-00125310 what I want to do actually thank you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00285-00125311-00125545 there we go I said thank you before the V3Ylb4QHvy4-00286-00125546-00125821 problem actually didn't fix don't do V3Ylb4QHvy4-00287-00125822-00126064 that it leads to I don't know one V3Ylb4QHvy4-00288-00126065-00126399 reasonable expectations or whatever I V3Ylb4QHvy4-00289-00126400-00126633 thought that collapsed when you walk V3Ylb4QHvy4-00290-00126634-00126958 through it walked over it I mean it's V3Ylb4QHvy4-00291-00126958-00127207 not just in Black Mesa I don't know V3Ylb4QHvy4-00292-00127208-00127377 other supplies there cuz for there was V3Ylb4QHvy4-00293-00127378-00128639 some are like shotgun ammo there we go V3Ylb4QHvy4-00294-00128640-00129108 yeah through there all right we are V3Ylb4QHvy4-00295-00129109-00129388 moving on up moving on up moving on up V3Ylb4QHvy4-00296-00129389-00129595 I don't realize didn't realize how long V3Ylb4QHvy4-00297-00129596-00129946 it's been uh what's at the other end of V3Ylb4QHvy4-00298-00129947-00130458 this shuttle whoo-whoo I wonder see you V3Ylb4QHvy4-00299-00130459-00130560 next time V3Ylb4QHvy4-00300-00130561-00130767 [Music] V3Ylb4QHvy4-00301-00130768-00131011 [Applause] V7R4htheqbg-00000-00000303-00001262 [Music] V7R4htheqbg-00001-00001263-00001527 in my research i i'm V7R4htheqbg-00002-00001528-00001718 very interested in understanding what is V7R4htheqbg-00003-00001719-00001967 the causal effect of breastfeeding on V7R4htheqbg-00004-00001968-00002207 child development so first of all we V7R4htheqbg-00005-00002208-00002526 have a who recommending mothers V7R4htheqbg-00006-00002527-00002815 worldwide to exclusively breastfeed for V7R4htheqbg-00007-00002816-00002942 six months V7R4htheqbg-00008-00002943-00003295 and the motivation is exactly to achieve V7R4htheqbg-00009-00003296-00003590 optimal child health growth and V7R4htheqbg-00010-00003592-00003847 development V7R4htheqbg-00011-00003847-00004159 but we don't really have corset evidence V7R4htheqbg-00012-00004160-00004335 backing off this V7R4htheqbg-00013-00004336-00004631 reason and that is so that's exactly why V7R4htheqbg-00014-00004632-00004951 i am interested in this question um so V7R4htheqbg-00015-00004952-00005151 if we think about V7R4htheqbg-00016-00005152-00005399 the consequences of V7R4htheqbg-00017-00005400-00005735 providing or of recommending mothers V7R4htheqbg-00018-00005736-00005959 feeding for exclusively for six months V7R4htheqbg-00019-00005960-00006191 and then the recommendation is also to V7R4htheqbg-00020-00006192-00006454 continue up to until the child turns two V7R4htheqbg-00021-00006455-00006614 years at least V7R4htheqbg-00022-00006615-00006727 um V7R4htheqbg-00023-00006728-00006942 it's of course puts a lot of pressure on V7R4htheqbg-00024-00006943-00007167 mothers because there will be societal V7R4htheqbg-00025-00007168-00007439 expectations of doing it a lot of V7R4htheqbg-00026-00007440-00007751 mothers want to but they have problems V7R4htheqbg-00027-00007752-00008119 so it also puts um cost on society V7R4htheqbg-00028-00008120-00008303 because of course we need some health V7R4htheqbg-00029-00008304-00008559 personal educators to help mothers V7R4htheqbg-00030-00008560-00008846 breastfeed etc so there are many cost V7R4htheqbg-00031-00008847-00009071 arguments from an economic perspective V7R4htheqbg-00032-00009072-00009310 so one V7R4htheqbg-00033-00009311-00009559 one common argument in the discussion on V7R4htheqbg-00034-00009560-00009751 the duration of maternity leave for V7R4htheqbg-00035-00009752-00009959 instance is that it needs to be long V7R4htheqbg-00036-00009960-00010127 enough such that the mother can stay V7R4htheqbg-00037-00010128-00010335 home and breastfeed the child and that's V7R4htheqbg-00038-00010336-00010551 of course very costly for society as a V7R4htheqbg-00039-00010552-00010774 whole to have long maternity leave so V7R4htheqbg-00040-00010775-00010974 you can think about many economic V7R4htheqbg-00041-00010975-00011191 arguments for this and of course if we V7R4htheqbg-00042-00011192-00011374 also if we want optimal child V7R4htheqbg-00043-00011375-00011551 development then we want to do the best V7R4htheqbg-00044-00011552-00011719 for the child but there might be other V7R4htheqbg-00045-00011720-00011903 things we could do V7R4htheqbg-00046-00011904-00012078 that could be V7R4htheqbg-00047-00012079-00012342 a getting at that aim even better or V7R4htheqbg-00048-00012343-00013166 maybe breastfeeding is what is needed V7R4htheqbg-00049-00013168-00013358 what we see in V7R4htheqbg-00050-00013359-00013551 enrich at least in richer countries V7R4htheqbg-00051-00013552-00013807 today is that V7R4htheqbg-00052-00013808-00014038 better educated mothers mothers from V7R4htheqbg-00053-00014040-00014286 better socioeconomic backgrounds V7R4htheqbg-00054-00014287-00014655 they tend to breastfeed more and for V7R4htheqbg-00055-00014656-00014766 longer V7R4htheqbg-00056-00014768-00014991 than mothers from less V7R4htheqbg-00057-00014991-00015215 advantageous backgrounds V7R4htheqbg-00058-00015216-00015286 and V7R4htheqbg-00059-00015287-00015527 so that is there is clear selection into V7R4htheqbg-00060-00015528-00015758 who breastfeeds and who doesn't or who V7R4htheqbg-00061-00015759-00015983 breastfeeds for longer voices shorter V7R4htheqbg-00062-00015984-00016222 and so that there's a selection issue V7R4htheqbg-00063-00016223-00016407 and then of course we also V7R4htheqbg-00064-00016408-00016671 need to think about which child outcomes V7R4htheqbg-00065-00016672-00016879 we are interested in we know that V7R4htheqbg-00066-00016880-00017103 children from better socioeconomic V7R4htheqbg-00067-00017104-00017350 backgrounds they also generally V7R4htheqbg-00068-00017351-00017630 have better health they have higher iq V7R4htheqbg-00069-00017631-00017830 they are better in terms of social V7R4htheqbg-00070-00017831-00017999 emotional skills V7R4htheqbg-00071-00018000-00018222 so there is already this correlation V7R4htheqbg-00072-00018223-00018486 between ses or like socio-economic V7R4htheqbg-00073-00018487-00018750 background and child outcomes and then V7R4htheqbg-00074-00018751-00019007 when we put on top of that that this V7R4htheqbg-00075-00019008-00019214 selection into who breastfeed so who V7R4htheqbg-00076-00019215-00019479 doesn't then this is clear that V7R4htheqbg-00077-00019480-00019647 correlations are not necessarily V7R4htheqbg-00078-00019648-00020391 answering our question V7R4htheqbg-00079-00020392-00020478 so V7R4htheqbg-00080-00020479-00020663 there has been V7R4htheqbg-00081-00020664-00020903 thousands of many studies looking at V7R4htheqbg-00082-00020904-00021199 correlations between child outcomes and V7R4htheqbg-00083-00021200-00021439 breastfeeding and many of them are not V7R4htheqbg-00084-00021440-00021647 including many they are just including V7R4htheqbg-00085-00021648-00021911 very simple controls some are including V7R4htheqbg-00086-00021912-00022167 more controls well the pattern we see is V7R4htheqbg-00087-00022168-00022447 that the correlation tends to decline in V7R4htheqbg-00088-00022448-00022767 magnitude when including more controls V7R4htheqbg-00089-00022768-00023119 um i will give an example so there is a V7R4htheqbg-00090-00023120-00023294 review of the V7R4htheqbg-00091-00023295-00023407 papers V7R4htheqbg-00092-00023408-00023671 looking at the correlation between V7R4htheqbg-00093-00023672-00024055 iq child iq and breastfeeding and here V7R4htheqbg-00094-00024056-00024278 the overall conclusion is that V7R4htheqbg-00095-00024279-00024542 breastfeeding increases the V7R4htheqbg-00096-00024543-00024686 child iq V7R4htheqbg-00097-00024687-00024903 but when V7R4htheqbg-00098-00024904-00025127 you control for V7R4htheqbg-00099-00025128-00025519 maternal iq then you see that this V7R4htheqbg-00100-00025520-00025750 correlation is so much smaller than if V7R4htheqbg-00101-00025751-00026006 you don't and this is a really good V7R4htheqbg-00102-00026007-00026199 example i think because V7R4htheqbg-00103-00026200-00026511 parental iq is the most obvious V7R4htheqbg-00104-00026512-00026839 variable that we want to control for V7R4htheqbg-00105-00026839-00027102 when iq is the outcome V7R4htheqbg-00106-00027104-00027343 and when the correlation decreases so V7R4htheqbg-00107-00027344-00027614 much in magnitude with this in control i V7R4htheqbg-00108-00027616-00027695 think V7R4htheqbg-00109-00027695-00027887 it just suggests that there are many V7R4htheqbg-00110-00027888-00028135 controls that we need to but V7R4htheqbg-00111-00028136-00028367 to include but normally they are not V7R4htheqbg-00112-00028368-00028590 available in the data set V7R4htheqbg-00113-00028591-00028687 um V7R4htheqbg-00114-00028688-00028958 there are also some other strategies V7R4htheqbg-00115-00028960-00029070 that V7R4htheqbg-00116-00029072-00029455 prior that some researchers have used V7R4htheqbg-00117-00029456-00029527 so V7R4htheqbg-00118-00029527-00029751 for instance you could think about V7R4htheqbg-00119-00029752-00029974 comparing siblings V7R4htheqbg-00120-00029975-00030214 so one sibling was breastfed and the V7R4htheqbg-00121-00030216-00030479 other sibling was not prescribed so here V7R4htheqbg-00122-00030480-00030655 you V7R4htheqbg-00123-00030656-00030943 control for a lot of factors that are V7R4htheqbg-00124-00030944-00031039 correlated V7R4htheqbg-00125-00031039-00031214 with V7R4htheqbg-00126-00031216-00031439 the child outcomes so these siblings V7R4htheqbg-00127-00031439-00031743 they will have a very similar childhood V7R4htheqbg-00128-00031744-00032127 family environment etc but of course as V7R4htheqbg-00129-00032127-00032358 a one so some studies have found that V7R4htheqbg-00130-00032360-00032599 there are then these positive effects of V7R4htheqbg-00131-00032600-00032862 breastfeeding on child development or V7R4htheqbg-00132-00032863-00033071 earnings in adulthood but of course you V7R4htheqbg-00133-00033072-00033199 also have V7R4htheqbg-00134-00033200-00033462 selection into which child was breastfed V7R4htheqbg-00135-00033463-00033767 and which was not so there is a very V7R4htheqbg-00136-00033768-00033911 nice paper V7R4htheqbg-00137-00033912-00034055 um V7R4htheqbg-00138-00034056-00034295 showing that if you just control for V7R4htheqbg-00139-00034296-00034623 parental ferrotism so whether V7R4htheqbg-00140-00034624-00034911 the parents prefer favored one child V7R4htheqbg-00141-00034912-00035102 over the other then you don't see this V7R4htheqbg-00142-00035103-00035374 correlation between breastfeeding and V7R4htheqbg-00143-00035375-00035671 educational outcome so and that's just V7R4htheqbg-00144-00035672-00035862 one control variable that you might V7R4htheqbg-00145-00035863-00036023 think is important to include and of V7R4htheqbg-00146-00036024-00036215 course you could also think about other V7R4htheqbg-00147-00036216-00036407 controlled variables or V7R4htheqbg-00148-00036408-00036583 other differences between these siblings V7R4htheqbg-00149-00036584-00036807 that are important to to include so some V7R4htheqbg-00150-00036808-00037095 studies have also used matching V7R4htheqbg-00151-00037096-00037335 so they have tried to V7R4htheqbg-00152-00037336-00037543 find one child V7R4htheqbg-00153-00037544-00037751 who was breastfed and one child who was V7R4htheqbg-00154-00037752-00037999 not breastfed where all the background V7R4htheqbg-00155-00038000-00038255 characteristics or observable variables V7R4htheqbg-00156-00038256-00038487 were similar and then they look at their V7R4htheqbg-00157-00038488-00038695 outcomes it's also clear from the V7R4htheqbg-00158-00038696-00039015 literature that when you use matching V7R4htheqbg-00159-00039016-00039230 there is much less V7R4htheqbg-00160-00039231-00039455 of an effect of breastfeeding on V7R4htheqbg-00161-00039456-00039751 outcomes than if you just use V7R4htheqbg-00162-00039752-00039974 normal ols regressions V7R4htheqbg-00163-00039975-00040199 but of course it doesn't answer the V7R4htheqbg-00164-00040200-00040439 final question of causality because they V7R4htheqbg-00165-00040440-00040639 can only match on those variables that V7R4htheqbg-00166-00040640-00040759 they observe V7R4htheqbg-00167-00040760-00040990 and you might still think about of a lot V7R4htheqbg-00168-00040991-00041190 of unobserved variables that might be V7R4htheqbg-00169-00041191-00041430 very important for mother's decision to V7R4htheqbg-00170-00041431-00042087 breastfeed or not V7R4htheqbg-00171-00042088-00042311 in my reading of the literature i have V7R4htheqbg-00172-00042312-00042511 only been able to find V7R4htheqbg-00173-00042512-00042807 two convincing studies that get at V7R4htheqbg-00174-00042808-00043087 causal effects of breastfeeding so V7R4htheqbg-00175-00043088-00043279 one study is V7R4htheqbg-00176-00043280-00043607 an rct so a randomized control trial it V7R4htheqbg-00177-00043608-00044095 was conducted in belarus in 1996 to 97 V7R4htheqbg-00178-00044096-00044439 and here it was a hospital level V7R4htheqbg-00179-00044440-00044583 intervention V7R4htheqbg-00180-00044584-00044799 where they randomized V7R4htheqbg-00181-00044800-00045135 some hospitals into receiving V7R4htheqbg-00182-00045136-00045279 this breastfeeding promotion V7R4htheqbg-00183-00045280-00045583 intervention and other hospitals they V7R4htheqbg-00184-00045584-00045743 just had so they were controlled V7R4htheqbg-00185-00045744-00045983 hospitals and then they just needed to V7R4htheqbg-00186-00045984-00046239 stay with the status quo so this is a V7R4htheqbg-00187-00046240-00046455 typical rct setup so you have a V7R4htheqbg-00188-00046456-00046718 treatment group and a control group V7R4htheqbg-00189-00046719-00046839 and V7R4htheqbg-00190-00046840-00047111 so this intervention had V7R4htheqbg-00191-00047112-00047511 a strong effect on the probability of V7R4htheqbg-00192-00047512-00047774 exclusive breastfeeding and also any V7R4htheqbg-00193-00047775-00048015 price feeding so they they V7R4htheqbg-00194-00048016-00048318 receive they are achieved the the aim of V7R4htheqbg-00195-00048319-00048543 this intervention so they V7R4htheqbg-00196-00048544-00048718 increase the duration of exclusive V7R4htheqbg-00197-00048719-00048951 breastfeeding and also the duration of V7R4htheqbg-00198-00048952-00049239 any breastfeeding so from this study V7R4htheqbg-00199-00049240-00049630 what the overall findings are V7R4htheqbg-00200-00049631-00049783 is that V7R4htheqbg-00201-00049784-00050079 there are some beneficial effects of V7R4htheqbg-00202-00050080-00050343 breastfeeding on child development but V7R4htheqbg-00203-00050344-00050630 very limited so it's much less than what V7R4htheqbg-00204-00050631-00050862 you see in the correlational literature V7R4htheqbg-00205-00050863-00051095 so in a recent evaluation that i have V7R4htheqbg-00206-00051096-00051311 conducted we only find V7R4htheqbg-00207-00051312-00051550 uh statistically significant and V7R4htheqbg-00208-00051551-00051863 persistent effects on weight for age and V7R4htheqbg-00209-00051864-00052126 that's from birth throughout adolescence V7R4htheqbg-00210-00052127-00052463 but we don't find any evidence of V7R4htheqbg-00211-00052464-00052791 causal effects on other dimensions of V7R4htheqbg-00212-00052791-00053063 child health not in infancy and not V7R4htheqbg-00213-00053064-00053335 later on and we don't find any V7R4htheqbg-00214-00053336-00053687 effect on cognitive development either V7R4htheqbg-00215-00053688-00053926 then there is one other study which is V7R4htheqbg-00216-00053927-00054119 very nice it's a V7R4htheqbg-00217-00054120-00054230 very new V7R4htheqbg-00218-00054232-00054366 study by V7R4htheqbg-00219-00054367-00054887 fitzsimons and verades so they study the V7R4htheqbg-00220-00054888-00055063 question of what is the causal effect of V7R4htheqbg-00221-00055064-00055279 breastfeeding on child development in V7R4htheqbg-00222-00055279-00055423 the uk V7R4htheqbg-00223-00055424-00055679 and this was also among children born V7R4htheqbg-00224-00055679-00055926 around year 2000 V7R4htheqbg-00225-00055927-00056287 so they have a very nice feature in that V7R4htheqbg-00226-00056288-00056542 what they observe and that is that V7R4htheqbg-00227-00056544-00056935 for the sample of low educated mothers V7R4htheqbg-00228-00056936-00057294 there is the an exogenous event that V7R4htheqbg-00229-00057295-00057599 affects their breastfeeding behavior so V7R4htheqbg-00230-00057600-00057726 they V7R4htheqbg-00231-00057727-00057871 show that V7R4htheqbg-00232-00057872-00058223 the timing of delivery affects V7R4htheqbg-00233-00058224-00058382 their breastfeeding V7R4htheqbg-00234-00058383-00058719 outcomes so to get more into detail V7R4htheqbg-00235-00058720-00058991 those mothers who gave birth early in V7R4htheqbg-00236-00058991-00059159 the weekend V7R4htheqbg-00237-00059160-00059238 they V7R4htheqbg-00238-00059239-00059423 received less support in terms of V7R4htheqbg-00239-00059424-00059630 breastfeeding at the hospital and the V7R4htheqbg-00240-00059632-00059823 early breastfeeding support is what V7R4htheqbg-00241-00059824-00060054 really matters because if you first stop V7R4htheqbg-00242-00060055-00060254 or if you don't start breastfeeding then V7R4htheqbg-00243-00060255-00060526 you cannot do it later on V7R4htheqbg-00244-00060527-00060759 so those who gave birth in the early V7R4htheqbg-00245-00060760-00061159 weekend they are much less likely to be V7R4htheqbg-00246-00061160-00061391 breastfeeding when the child is three V7R4htheqbg-00247-00061391-00061663 months old compared to those who gave V7R4htheqbg-00248-00061664-00061766 birth V7R4htheqbg-00249-00061767-00062038 during the weekdays where there was more V7R4htheqbg-00250-00062039-00062287 support in terms of breastfeeding V7R4htheqbg-00251-00062288-00062430 so what they V7R4htheqbg-00252-00062432-00062671 then do is to use what is called an V7R4htheqbg-00253-00062672-00062975 instrumental wearable approach so they V7R4htheqbg-00254-00062976-00063150 have now found this V7R4htheqbg-00255-00063151-00063447 nice exogenous variation in terms of V7R4htheqbg-00256-00063448-00063575 timing of V7R4htheqbg-00257-00063576-00063742 birth V7R4htheqbg-00258-00063744-00063942 which affects breastfeeding and it V7R4htheqbg-00259-00063944-00064142 doesn't affect anything else of what V7R4htheqbg-00260-00064144-00064423 they can look at V7R4htheqbg-00261-00064424-00064566 and then they V7R4htheqbg-00262-00064567-00064759 look at how does this V7R4htheqbg-00263-00064760-00065030 um breastfeeding outcome V7R4htheqbg-00264-00065032-00065206 so breastfeeding at three months how V7R4htheqbg-00265-00065207-00065511 does that affect child development they V7R4htheqbg-00266-00065512-00065663 also consider health and social V7R4htheqbg-00267-00065664-00065823 emotional skills V7R4htheqbg-00268-00065824-00065950 they find V7R4htheqbg-00269-00065951-00066359 a very large effect of breastfeeding V7R4htheqbg-00270-00066360-00066591 on cognitive development V7R4htheqbg-00271-00066592-00066799 i must say that the confidence interval V7R4htheqbg-00272-00066800-00066999 is quite large so they cannot rule out V7R4htheqbg-00273-00067000-00067231 that the effect is much smaller than V7R4htheqbg-00274-00067232-00067431 they estimate but they find a large V7R4htheqbg-00275-00067432-00067815 effect of half a standard deviation V7R4htheqbg-00276-00067816-00067950 and V7R4htheqbg-00277-00067951-00068126 then they also look at health and shows V7R4htheqbg-00278-00068127-00068294 emotional development and here they V7R4htheqbg-00279-00068295-00068471 don't find an effect so they don't find V7R4htheqbg-00280-00068472-00068671 any effect on health outcomes the V7R4htheqbg-00281-00068672-00068879 estimate is more noisy for social V7R4htheqbg-00282-00068880-00069143 emotional development but at least as i V7R4htheqbg-00283-00069144-00069294 suggest that there is V7R4htheqbg-00284-00069295-00069463 not really an effect on these other V7R4htheqbg-00285-00069464-00069711 dimensions and that is also similar to V7R4htheqbg-00286-00069712-00069959 what has been found for the uh from the V7R4htheqbg-00287-00069960-00070399 probit studies this rct in belarus so i V7R4htheqbg-00288-00070400-00070631 think from these two studies we can see V7R4htheqbg-00289-00070632-00070775 that V7R4htheqbg-00290-00070776-00070926 it doesn't seem V7R4htheqbg-00291-00070927-00071159 to be there doesn't seem to be an effect V7R4htheqbg-00292-00071160-00071382 on child health in general there might V7R4htheqbg-00293-00071383-00071455 be V7R4htheqbg-00294-00071456-00071711 a large effect on cognitive development V7R4htheqbg-00295-00071712-00071919 and here i think it's V7R4htheqbg-00296-00071920-00072159 relevant and also interesting to compare V7R4htheqbg-00297-00072160-00072350 these two studies because they actually V7R4htheqbg-00298-00072351-00072431 had V7R4htheqbg-00299-00072432-00072703 they identified very different effects V7R4htheqbg-00300-00072704-00072799 because V7R4htheqbg-00301-00072800-00073223 um in the uk paper they have an V7R4htheqbg-00302-00073224-00073375 instrument for V7R4htheqbg-00303-00073376-00073694 breastfeeding for at least three months V7R4htheqbg-00304-00073695-00073894 the alternative was V7R4htheqbg-00305-00073895-00074023 normally V7R4htheqbg-00306-00074024-00074247 infant formula and very little V7R4htheqbg-00307-00074248-00074575 breastfeeding so you can think of it as V7R4htheqbg-00308-00074576-00074862 an extensive martian effect so V7R4htheqbg-00309-00074863-00075167 breastfeeding versus zero breastfeeding V7R4htheqbg-00310-00075168-00075294 in the V7R4htheqbg-00311-00075295-00075431 rct V7R4htheqbg-00312-00075432-00075679 it was very different because they don't V7R4htheqbg-00313-00075680-00076006 randomize women into breastfeed or not V7R4htheqbg-00314-00076007-00076326 breastfeed they randomize women into V7R4htheqbg-00315-00076327-00076535 a promotion and encouragement of V7R4htheqbg-00316-00076536-00076855 breastfeeding so in the control group V7R4htheqbg-00317-00076856-00077094 you still see that women they were very V7R4htheqbg-00318-00077095-00077343 likely to breastfeed V7R4htheqbg-00319-00077344-00077550 and so for instance at three months on V7R4htheqbg-00320-00077551-00077775 average controlled women they price paid V7R4htheqbg-00321-00077776-00077999 for three and a half so they the price V7R4htheqbg-00322-00078000-00078271 paid three and a half times per day V7R4htheqbg-00323-00078272-00078503 so you see that it was an effect on V7R4htheqbg-00324-00078504-00078599 their V7R4htheqbg-00325-00078600-00078823 intensive margin so they V7R4htheqbg-00326-00078824-00078991 that controlled children they were V7R4htheqbg-00327-00078992-00079143 breastfed less but they were still V7R4htheqbg-00328-00079144-00079311 breastfed V7R4htheqbg-00329-00079312-00079471 and that has V7R4htheqbg-00330-00079472-00079655 that's of course important for the V7R4htheqbg-00331-00079656-00079911 interpretation of the results V7R4htheqbg-00332-00079912-00080055 so V7R4htheqbg-00333-00080056-00080319 at this point in time none of these V7R4htheqbg-00334-00080320-00080575 children who when they were V7R4htheqbg-00335-00080576-00080847 not given breast milk then the type of V7R4htheqbg-00336-00080848-00081119 food they received didn't contain V7R4htheqbg-00337-00081120-00081238 certain V7R4htheqbg-00338-00081239-00081511 fatty acids which are thought to be V7R4htheqbg-00339-00081512-00081735 important for brain development and that V7R4htheqbg-00340-00081736-00081918 might potentially explain this V7R4htheqbg-00341-00081919-00082094 difference in the effect on cognitive V7R4htheqbg-00342-00082095-00082294 development what makes it more difficult V7R4htheqbg-00343-00082295-00082406 to V7R4htheqbg-00344-00082407-00082599 compare different research designs V7R4htheqbg-00345-00082600-00082782 because you actually have a different V7R4htheqbg-00346-00082783-00082975 type of treatment V7R4htheqbg-00347-00082976-00083087 and V7R4htheqbg-00348-00083088-00083294 so and that's of course also something V7R4htheqbg-00349-00083295-00083487 that is very important to keep in mind V7R4htheqbg-00350-00083488-00083694 when you look at correlational studies V7R4htheqbg-00351-00083695-00083943 because they have all types of different V7R4htheqbg-00352-00083944-00084615 definitions of breastfeeding V7R4htheqbg-00353-00084616-00084838 my reading of the literature is that if V7R4htheqbg-00354-00084839-00085126 the alternative to breastfeeding is what V7R4htheqbg-00355-00085127-00085438 you would recommend so it's high quality V7R4htheqbg-00356-00085439-00085726 infant formula supplemented with V7R4htheqbg-00357-00085727-00085982 specific fatty acids V7R4htheqbg-00358-00085983-00086150 then V7R4htheqbg-00359-00086151-00086247 any V7R4htheqbg-00360-00086248-00086494 beneficial effect of breastfeeding is V7R4htheqbg-00361-00086495-00086638 very very small V7R4htheqbg-00362-00086639-00086767 i V7R4htheqbg-00363-00086768-00086975 i don't know if there is a very if there V7R4htheqbg-00364-00086976-00087318 is a small effect on a contemporaneous V7R4htheqbg-00365-00087319-00087487 child health but my reading of the V7R4htheqbg-00366-00087488-00087655 literature is that if there is any V7R4htheqbg-00367-00087656-00087838 health effect it's V7R4htheqbg-00368-00087839-00088118 it's very small with during V7R4htheqbg-00369-00088119-00088303 the breastfeeding time and i don't see V7R4htheqbg-00370-00088304-00088591 any effect that is lasting V7R4htheqbg-00371-00088592-00088926 in terms of cognitive development i V7R4htheqbg-00372-00088927-00089150 i'm not convinced there is an effect V7R4htheqbg-00373-00089151-00089391 maybe it's a very small one but it would V7R4htheqbg-00374-00089392-00089487 be V7R4htheqbg-00375-00089488-00089782 less than an iq point i would estimate V7R4htheqbg-00376-00089783-00090023 but of course that's my guess V7R4htheqbg-00377-00090024-00090255 as long as the alternative is good V7R4htheqbg-00378-00090256-00090637 infant formula V7R4htheqbg-00379-00090638-00090930 [Music] V9vTXJy7ePg-00000-00000101-00000488 this week on the wire Ozzy's expected V9vTXJy7ePg-00001-00000488-00000805 prices to rise luxury cars follow houses V9vTXJy7ePg-00002-00000806-00001010 and first homebuyer approvals hit V9vTXJy7ePg-00003-00001011-00001216 ten-year high g'day guys my name is Tim V9vTXJy7ePg-00004-00001217-00001370 guest and I'm Australia's leading V9vTXJy7ePg-00005-00001371-00001595 financial educator welcome to the wire V9vTXJy7ePg-00006-00001596-00001754 the week in real estate where you can V9vTXJy7ePg-00007-00001755-00001909 get all the top stories happening this V9vTXJy7ePg-00008-00001910-00002123 week in finance real estate and V9vTXJy7ePg-00009-00002124-00002390 investment now please like comment and V9vTXJy7ePg-00010-00002391-00002542 share this video and if it's your first V9vTXJy7ePg-00011-00002543-00002792 time tuning in welcome along and don't V9vTXJy7ePg-00012-00002793-00003001 forget to subscribe or follow wherever V9vTXJy7ePg-00013-00003002-00003191 you're seeing this video now our top V9vTXJy7ePg-00014-00003192-00003281 story this week V9vTXJy7ePg-00015-00003282-00003547 Aziz expect prices to rise so V9vTXJy7ePg-00016-00003548-00003728 Australians expect house prices to rise V9vTXJy7ePg-00017-00003729-00003922 and believe this is a good time to buy V9vTXJy7ePg-00018-00003923-00004163 homes house price expectations have V9vTXJy7ePg-00019-00004164-00004409 risen 46% in the four months since May V9vTXJy7ePg-00020-00004410-00004570 and this is what a new study has found V9vTXJy7ePg-00021-00004571-00004777 the latest Westpac Melbourne Institute V9vTXJy7ePg-00022-00004778-00005011 index of consumer sentiment shows V9vTXJy7ePg-00023-00005012-00005252 continued improvement in consumers house V9vTXJy7ePg-00024-00005253-00005506 price expectations the national survey V9vTXJy7ePg-00025-00005507-00005647 conducted in the first week of September V9vTXJy7ePg-00026-00005648-00005909 shows an increase from August in V9vTXJy7ePg-00027-00005910-00006191 consumers house price expectations which V9vTXJy7ePg-00028-00006192-00006514 contributes to an overall 46% increase V9vTXJy7ePg-00029-00006515-00006800 in the past four months now all major V9vTXJy7ePg-00030-00006801-00006973 cities recorded a bounce in price V9vTXJy7ePg-00031-00006975-00007187 expectations and the data also shows V9vTXJy7ePg-00032-00007188-00007442 that home buying sentiment is 19 percent V9vTXJy7ePg-00033-00007443-00007658 higher than a year ago and sits near a V9vTXJy7ePg-00034-00007659-00007909 five-year high now this also comes off V9vTXJy7ePg-00035-00007911-00008078 the back of new predictions by V9vTXJy7ePg-00036-00008079-00008335 economists at UBS and UBS generally have V9vTXJy7ePg-00037-00008336-00008524 a negative stance on real estate but V9vTXJy7ePg-00038-00008525-00008645 they've lifted their price expectations V9vTXJy7ePg-00039-00008646-00008839 for housing markets having previously V9vTXJy7ePg-00040-00008840-00009103 forecasted a muted recovery with three V9vTXJy7ePg-00041-00009104-00009296 to five percent price growth their new V9vTXJy7ePg-00042-00009297-00009610 projections suggest a 10% increase by V9vTXJy7ePg-00043-00009611-00009863 next year the revision was partly due to V9vTXJy7ePg-00044-00009864-00010042 lending growth in July so the OBS V9vTXJy7ePg-00045-00010043-00010210 figures show that the investor lending V9vTXJy7ePg-00046-00010211-00010505 grew to 4.6 billion dollars which is the V9vTXJy7ePg-00047-00010506-00010753 fastest pace since September 2016 while V9vTXJy7ePg-00048-00010754-00010981 owner occupier loans rose to thirteen V9vTXJy7ePg-00049-00010982-00011221 point two five billion we expect home V9vTXJy7ePg-00050-00011222-00011371 lines to leave 15 to 20 percent V9vTXJy7ePg-00051-00011372-00011581 year-on-year over the next year V9vTXJy7ePg-00052-00011582-00011767 underpinning stronger house price growth V9vTXJy7ePg-00053-00011768-00012064 of 5 to 10 percent UBS economist George V9vTXJy7ePg-00054-00012065-00012313 Duroy says however thoroughly says the V9vTXJy7ePg-00055-00012314-00012517 growth in prices could pose a change in V9vTXJy7ePg-00056-00012518-00012644 the outlook for the official cash rate V9vTXJy7ePg-00057-00012645-00012910 which is expected to fall further by V9vTXJy7ePg-00058-00012911-00013183 next month Taran a says the Reserve V9vTXJy7ePg-00059-00013184-00013333 is likely to reduce the official V9vTXJy7ePg-00060-00013334-00013516 interest rate but tight and credit rules V9vTXJy7ePg-00061-00013518-00013678 at the same time to prevent another V9vTXJy7ePg-00062-00013679-00013909 house price boom so moving on to our V9vTXJy7ePg-00063-00013910-00014216 next story luxury cars follow houses so V9vTXJy7ePg-00064-00014216-00014389 luxury car sales have risen for the V9vTXJy7ePg-00065-00014390-00014558 second month in a row matching the big V9vTXJy7ePg-00066-00014559-00014753 recovery or the recovery in the big city V9vTXJy7ePg-00067-00014754-00014917 housing markets and continuing a V9vTXJy7ePg-00068-00014918-00015133 long-standing correlation between the V9vTXJy7ePg-00069-00015134-00015383 two indicators overall luxury car sales V9vTXJy7ePg-00070-00015384-00015538 in the year to August were up following V9vTXJy7ePg-00071-00015540-00015772 a rise in the year to July and that is V9vTXJy7ePg-00072-00015773-00015950 the first month that has risen in two V9vTXJy7ePg-00073-00015951-00016211 years the two monthly increases merit V9vTXJy7ePg-00074-00016212-00016378 outcomes with prices in Melbourne and V9vTXJy7ePg-00075-00016379-00016561 Sydney which recorded price growth in V9vTXJy7ePg-00076-00016562-00016759 July and August following almost two V9vTXJy7ePg-00077-00016760-00016990 years of Falls historically it's been a V9vTXJy7ePg-00078-00016991-00017192 very good relationships as COMSEC chief V9vTXJy7ePg-00079-00017193-00017489 economist Craig James sometimes it leads V9vTXJy7ePg-00080-00017490-00017737 a house prices sometimes it lags them V9vTXJy7ePg-00081-00017738-00017975 when luxury vehicle sales are in retreat V9vTXJy7ePg-00082-00017976-00018149 you can bet the home prices are far V9vTXJy7ePg-00083-00018150-00018334 behind there's been the case since the V9vTXJy7ePg-00084-00018335-00018559 early 1990s and I think the car sales V9vTXJy7ePg-00085-00018560-00018728 data means we have probably hit the V9vTXJy7ePg-00086-00018729-00018914 bottom now in terms of the economy I V9vTXJy7ePg-00087-00018915-00019100 don't think we'll see another boom in V9vTXJy7ePg-00088-00019101-00019225 house prices but with the election V9vTXJy7ePg-00089-00019226-00019444 uncertainty over and the interest rate V9vTXJy7ePg-00090-00019445-00019661 and tax cuts I think the worst umber is V9vTXJy7ePg-00091-00019662-00019871 behind us so now moving on to our final V9vTXJy7ePg-00092-00019872-00020030 story for the week so first home buyer V9vTXJy7ePg-00093-00020031-00020275 approvals hit a ten-year high the value V9vTXJy7ePg-00094-00020276-00020422 of home loans are proof of first-time V9vTXJy7ePg-00095-00020423-00020455 buyers V9vTXJy7ePg-00096-00020456-00020630 increased by 21 percent in July V9vTXJy7ePg-00097-00020631-00020836 according to analysis of the latest RBA V9vTXJy7ePg-00098-00020837-00021080 ABS data core logic research analyst V9vTXJy7ePg-00099-00021081-00021256 Cameron Khushi says the value of Housing V9vTXJy7ePg-00100-00021257-00021430 Finance for owner-occupied first-time V9vTXJy7ePg-00101-00021431-00021467 buyers V9vTXJy7ePg-00102-00021468-00021718 totalled 3.7 billion the highest monthly V9vTXJy7ePg-00103-00021719-00022024 value since November 2009 on a V9vTXJy7ePg-00104-00022025-00022289 state-by-state basis the ICT record is V9vTXJy7ePg-00105-00022290-00022417 the sharpest month-on-month V9vTXJy7ePg-00106-00022418-00022564 increase in first-time buyer loan V9vTXJy7ePg-00107-00022565-00022744 commitments in July followed by New V9vTXJy7ePg-00108-00022745-00022887 South Wales the Northern Territory V9vTXJy7ePg-00109-00022888-00023125 Western Australia Queensland and V9vTXJy7ePg-00110-00023126-00023408 Victoria the spike in first home buyer V9vTXJy7ePg-00111-00023409-00023599 loan approvals coincided with an V9vTXJy7ePg-00112-00023600-00023803 increase in the total value of lending V9vTXJy7ePg-00113-00023804-00024019 for non first home buyer owner occupiers V9vTXJy7ePg-00114-00024020-00024259 and investors overall the value of V9vTXJy7ePg-00115-00024260-00024505 mortgages approved in July rose by 5.1 V9vTXJy7ePg-00116-00024506-00024677 percent the largest monthly increase V9vTXJy7ePg-00117-00024678-00024864 since March 2015 V9vTXJy7ePg-00118-00024865-00025127 Koecher says the improvement in housing V9vTXJy7ePg-00119-00025128-00025309 finance commitments has mirrored the V9vTXJy7ePg-00120-00025310-00025505 jump in auction clearance rates which V9vTXJy7ePg-00121-00025506-00025744 have been trending above 70 percent over V9vTXJy7ePg-00122-00025745-00026062 the past few months in capital cities so V9vTXJy7ePg-00123-00026063-00026215 pretty much that's it from me guys now V9vTXJy7ePg-00124-00026216-00026342 remember to like calm V9vTXJy7ePg-00125-00026343-00026531 and share this video and don't forget to V9vTXJy7ePg-00126-00026532-00026708 follow subscribe wherever you're saying V9vTXJy7ePg-00127-00026708-00026951 this now stay tuned early next week for V9vTXJy7ePg-00128-00026952-00027110 our just asked in videos and if you want V9vTXJy7ePg-00129-00027111-00027323 to submit a 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made the call to V9bYGM1h7Ky-00008-00001479-00001687 temporarily move from birmingham to V9bYGM1h7Ky-00009-00001688-00001855 sheboygan up north V9bYGM1h7Ky-00010-00001855-00002014 also their kids can go to school in V9bYGM1h7Ky-00011-00002016-00002167 person V9bYGM1h7Ky-00012-00002168-00002367 if you have children in school this fall V9bYGM1h7Ky-00013-00002368-00002591 looks a little different for everyone V9bYGM1h7Ky-00014-00002592-00002815 but for one family in birmingham remote V9bYGM1h7Ky-00015-00002816-00002999 learning just wasn't going to work for V9bYGM1h7Ky-00016-00003000-00003055 them V9bYGM1h7Ky-00017-00003056-00003247 so they're packing up their van and V9bYGM1h7Ky-00018-00003247-00003599 heading up north V9bYGM1h7Ky-00019-00003600-00003775 it was just a few weeks ago when the V9bYGM1h7Ky-00020-00003776-00003935 zane family learned that their two V9bYGM1h7Ky-00021-00003936-00004151 children V9bYGM1h7Ky-00022-00004152-00004335 miriam and vivian would be starting V9bYGM1h7Ky-00023-00004336-00004511 school online this fall V9bYGM1h7Ky-00024-00004512-00004767 we love birmingham we moved here because V9bYGM1h7Ky-00025-00004768-00004943 we had great schools here V9bYGM1h7Ky-00026-00004944-00005199 it was just so sad to me to think about V9bYGM1h7Ky-00027-00005200-00005311 starting kindergarten V9bYGM1h7Ky-00028-00005312-00005567 behind a computer the zooms were just V9bYGM1h7Ky-00029-00005568-00005727 looking at a screen V9bYGM1h7Ky-00030-00005728-00006086 talking for like three hours V9bYGM1h7Ky-00031-00006087-00006263 joe and heather zane were considering V9bYGM1h7Ky-00032-00006264-00006463 the idea of one of them stepping away V9bYGM1h7Ky-00033-00006464-00006583 from their careers V9bYGM1h7Ky-00034-00006584-00006767 because they knew remote learning wasn't V9bYGM1h7Ky-00035-00006768-00006942 going to work for their family V9bYGM1h7Ky-00036-00006943-00007191 based on their experience last spring i V9bYGM1h7Ky-00037-00007192-00007359 got up very early so i could get a V9bYGM1h7Ky-00038-00007359-00007519 couple hours of work done before the V9bYGM1h7Ky-00039-00007520-00007639 girls woke up V9bYGM1h7Ky-00040-00007640-00007783 and then i tried to do the virtual V9bYGM1h7Ky-00041-00007784-00008006 learning thing and juggle all that V9bYGM1h7Ky-00042-00008008-00008263 but when it comes down to it without a V9bYGM1h7Ky-00043-00008264-00008471 an insight it wasn't a sustainable V9bYGM1h7Ky-00044-00008472-00008519 option V9bYGM1h7Ky-00045-00008520-00008774 they decided a sustainable option was to V9bYGM1h7Ky-00046-00008775-00008959 move up to their cottage in sheboygan V9bYGM1h7Ky-00047-00008960-00009039 michigan V9bYGM1h7Ky-00048-00009040-00009278 where in-person learning will take place V9bYGM1h7Ky-00049-00009279-00009383 we've been getting V9bYGM1h7Ky-00050-00009384-00009559 really great communication from the V9bYGM1h7Ky-00051-00009560-00009759 school district in sheboygan V9bYGM1h7Ky-00052-00009760-00010103 the teachers have sent us videos of how V9bYGM1h7Ky-00053-00010104-00010271 the kids will enter the classroom V9bYGM1h7Ky-00054-00010272-00010455 it wasn't an easy option to take their V9bYGM1h7Ky-00055-00010456-00010646 daughters away from their home and their V9bYGM1h7Ky-00056-00010647-00010719 friends V9bYGM1h7Ky-00057-00010720-00010983 but for now it's what they see best fit V9bYGM1h7Ky-00058-00010984-00011151 for their daughter's education V9bYGM1h7Ky-00059-00011152-00011367 i think that there's just a lack of V9bYGM1h7Ky-00060-00011368-00011487 creative thought V9bYGM1h7Ky-00061-00011488-00011767 going into how we can slowly make the V9bYGM1h7Ky-00062-00011768-00011870 re-entrance V9bYGM1h7Ky-00063-00011871-00012055 for people who want to send their kids V9bYGM1h7Ky-00064-00012056-00012287 to school for people who want to teach V9bYGM1h7Ky-00065-00012288-00012519 kids now the zane family says that they V9bYGM1h7Ky-00066-00012520-00012663 of course want to move back to V9bYGM1h7Ky-00067-00012664-00012871 birmingham and have their children learn V9bYGM1h7Ky-00068-00012872-00013135 at harlan elementary but for right now V9bYGM1h7Ky-00069-00013136-00013263 sheboygan schools V9bYGM1h7Ky-00070-00013263-00013503 is their best option reporting from V9bYGM1h7Ky-00071-00013504-00013583 birmingham V9bYGM1h7Ky-00072-00013584-00014000 i'm kim the giulio local 4. 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hear me all right VtpwAoYalAE-00000-00000075-00000350 [Music] VtpwAoYalAE-00001-00000351-00000704 we've just been discussing how models of VtpwAoYalAE-00002-00000705-00001025 substitution are models of evolution can VtpwAoYalAE-00003-00001026-00001318 play a role when we want to correct VtpwAoYalAE-00004-00001319-00001553 observed genetic distances for the VtpwAoYalAE-00005-00001554-00001963 purpose of building distance based trees VtpwAoYalAE-00006-00001964-00002264 we have some observed distances we know VtpwAoYalAE-00007-00002265-00002498 that there might be more on observed VtpwAoYalAE-00008-00002499-00002699 distances due to multiple substitution VtpwAoYalAE-00009-00002700-00002891 and we can use these models these VtpwAoYalAE-00010-00002892-00003158 assumptions about how sequences are VtpwAoYalAE-00011-00003159-00003370 changing as the basis for making VtpwAoYalAE-00012-00003371-00003608 estimates of the actual number of VtpwAoYalAE-00013-00003609-00003902 changes however as it turns out the very VtpwAoYalAE-00014-00003903-00004079 same models that we use for that purpose VtpwAoYalAE-00015-00004079-00004394 also play a role in another way of VtpwAoYalAE-00016-00004395-00004562 reconstructing trees that we will now VtpwAoYalAE-00017-00004563-00004781 move to namely that of maximum VtpwAoYalAE-00018-00004782-00005171 likelihood before we get back to those VtpwAoYalAE-00019-00005172-00005372 actual models of substitution and how VtpwAoYalAE-00020-00005373-00005540 things are done in a village in a tea VtpwAoYalAE-00021-00005541-00005768 context I would like to first give you a VtpwAoYalAE-00022-00005769-00006050 very rapid introduction to maximum VtpwAoYalAE-00023-00006051-00006194 likelihood a search now maximum VtpwAoYalAE-00024-00006195-00006511 likelihood is a way of feeding models a VtpwAoYalAE-00025-00006512-00006724 way of estimating parameters from data VtpwAoYalAE-00026-00006725-00007003 that's used not just in flow Janee but VtpwAoYalAE-00027-00007004-00007381 in in all sorts of different scientific VtpwAoYalAE-00028-00007382-00007678 contexts the idea is actually quite VtpwAoYalAE-00029-00007679-00007966 simple but some of the terms are may be VtpwAoYalAE-00030-00007967-00008209 different difficult so I'll try to walk VtpwAoYalAE-00031-00008210-00008380 you through a simple example first here VtpwAoYalAE-00032-00008381-00008687 based on a simple coin tossing VtpwAoYalAE-00033-00008688-00009073 experiment so the starting point in the VtpwAoYalAE-00034-00009074-00009451 case of a maximum likelihood analysis is VtpwAoYalAE-00035-00009452-00009646 that we have some data that we've VtpwAoYalAE-00036-00009647-00009895 observed and we have a particular model VtpwAoYalAE-00037-00009896-00010091 of how the system we looking at works VtpwAoYalAE-00038-00010092-00010348 that particular model is of the form VtpwAoYalAE-00039-00010349-00010626 that we call a probabilistic model a VtpwAoYalAE-00040-00010627-00010819 probabilistic model that sounds scary VtpwAoYalAE-00041-00010820-00011069 maybe but really it's just a model of VtpwAoYalAE-00042-00011070-00011266 the system you're looking at which VtpwAoYalAE-00043-00011267-00011587 allows you to for any possible data set VtpwAoYalAE-00044-00011588-00011876 and for any plausible set of parameter VtpwAoYalAE-00045-00011877-00012091 values in your model to compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00046-00012092-00012313 probability of the data you actually dot VtpwAoYalAE-00047-00012314-00012487 and of course also the probability of VtpwAoYalAE-00048-00012488-00012766 any other data set you might have gotten VtpwAoYalAE-00049-00012767-00013030 let's take an example to make that a bit VtpwAoYalAE-00050-00013031-00013300 clearer let's say that our data is the VtpwAoYalAE-00051-00013301-00013586 result of tossing a coin 10 times and VtpwAoYalAE-00052-00013587-00013727 let's say that it came up here VtpwAoYalAE-00053-00013728-00014102 seven times and Tails three times our VtpwAoYalAE-00054-00014103-00014390 model of the system our hypotheses about VtpwAoYalAE-00055-00014391-00014678 how the system works is that the coin VtpwAoYalAE-00056-00014679-00014960 has some probability P finding up heads VtpwAoYalAE-00057-00014961-00015226 and that it then has 1 minus P VtpwAoYalAE-00058-00015227-00015436 probability for ending up tail and VtpwAoYalAE-00059-00015437-00015694 you'll notice in the density that this VtpwAoYalAE-00060-00015695-00015911 is already a simplification we are VtpwAoYalAE-00061-00015912-00016154 ignoring the possibility that the coin VtpwAoYalAE-00062-00016155-00016382 will for instance stand on it which it VtpwAoYalAE-00063-00016383-00016514 will probably agree that that's a VtpwAoYalAE-00064-00016515-00016691 reasonable simplification in this case VtpwAoYalAE-00065-00016692-00016922 and that these are the two main factors VtpwAoYalAE-00066-00016923-00017315 we should be focusing on anyway if you VtpwAoYalAE-00067-00017316-00017516 take back to your high school math you VtpwAoYalAE-00068-00017517-00017783 might recall that in this case under VtpwAoYalAE-00069-00017784-00017981 these conditions we actually know the VtpwAoYalAE-00070-00017982-00018233 formula for the probability of any VtpwAoYalAE-00071-00018234-00018596 possible outcome of the experiment this VtpwAoYalAE-00072-00018597-00018790 is based on the so called binomial VtpwAoYalAE-00073-00018791-00019052 distribution and generally we know that VtpwAoYalAE-00074-00019053-00019328 the probability of getting H hits out of VtpwAoYalAE-00075-00019329-00019675 in sources can be computed using this VtpwAoYalAE-00076-00019676-00020012 formula we have H heads each of them VtpwAoYalAE-00077-00020013-00020290 have occurred with probability P as VtpwAoYalAE-00078-00020291-00020555 independent events the overall VtpwAoYalAE-00079-00020556-00020806 probability of that is P times P times P VtpwAoYalAE-00080-00020807-00021193 H times which is the same as P to the H VtpwAoYalAE-00081-00021194-00021602 similarly we have n minus H tails each VtpwAoYalAE-00082-00021603-00021890 of which has probability 1 minus P the VtpwAoYalAE-00083-00021891-00022118 overall probability of that is 1 minus P VtpwAoYalAE-00084-00022119-00022418 times 1 minus P times 1 minus P for n VtpwAoYalAE-00085-00022419-00022628 minus H times which is the same as 1 VtpwAoYalAE-00086-00022629-00023159 minus P to the N minus H the thing at VtpwAoYalAE-00087-00023160-00023359 the front of this expression is the so VtpwAoYalAE-00088-00023360-00023588 called binomial coefficient it tells us VtpwAoYalAE-00089-00023589-00023822 how many different ways that we can get VtpwAoYalAE-00090-00023823-00024215 in a run of n process that we can get H VtpwAoYalAE-00091-00024216-00024539 so 2 out of 10 we could have maybe the 2 VtpwAoYalAE-00092-00024540-00024758 first or the two last or the first and VtpwAoYalAE-00093-00024759-00024806 the last VtpwAoYalAE-00094-00024807-00025081 etc etc and each of those will have the VtpwAoYalAE-00095-00025082-00025289 same probability so we have to multiply VtpwAoYalAE-00096-00025290-00025600 by IDs to get the overall probability of VtpwAoYalAE-00097-00025601-00025943 that number objects anyway we have some VtpwAoYalAE-00098-00025944-00026288 data we have a model we have a formula VtpwAoYalAE-00099-00026289-00026440 that allows us to compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00100-00026441-00026849 probability of any possible data set for VtpwAoYalAE-00101-00026850-00027107 any given parameter value P that VtpwAoYalAE-00102-00027108-00027383 we might put in here and the goal now in VtpwAoYalAE-00103-00027383-00027655 maximum likelihood analysis is that we VtpwAoYalAE-00104-00027656-00027917 based on our data actually want to find VtpwAoYalAE-00105-00027918-00028114 the best estimate of the unknown VtpwAoYalAE-00106-00028115-00028411 parameter model that's the whole idea we VtpwAoYalAE-00107-00028412-00028583 don't know the parameter model we don't VtpwAoYalAE-00108-00028583-00028823 know P we make an experiment to try to VtpwAoYalAE-00109-00028824-00029092 estimate P and we use the data that we VtpwAoYalAE-00110-00029093-00029386 get via this formula to try to find a VtpwAoYalAE-00111-00029387-00029665 good estimate of the parameter value the VtpwAoYalAE-00112-00029666-00029749 way we do that VtpwAoYalAE-00113-00029750-00029951 in maximum likelihood is fairly simple VtpwAoYalAE-00114-00029952-00030265 the weight likelihood is actually one VtpwAoYalAE-00115-00030266-00030586 that has a particular technical meaning VtpwAoYalAE-00116-00030587-00030811 in this context in this context VtpwAoYalAE-00117-00030812-00031067 likelihood of a model means the VtpwAoYalAE-00118-00031068-00031361 probability of your data given that VtpwAoYalAE-00119-00031362-00031595 model given that model and given some VtpwAoYalAE-00120-00031595-00031890 specific parameter values for that model VtpwAoYalAE-00121-00031891-00032140 the IDN maximum likelihood is then VtpwAoYalAE-00122-00032141-00032423 fairly simple it is we've tried to find VtpwAoYalAE-00123-00032424-00032654 as the best estimate of our parameter VtpwAoYalAE-00124-00032655-00032896 values those parameter values that give VtpwAoYalAE-00125-00032897-00033110 us the highest possible likelihood the VtpwAoYalAE-00126-00033111-00033380 highest possible probability of the data VtpwAoYalAE-00127-00033381-00033730 that we have actually observed so let's VtpwAoYalAE-00128-00033731-00033964 have a look at an example of a maximum VtpwAoYalAE-00129-00033965-00034214 likelihood analysis let's say again that VtpwAoYalAE-00130-00034215-00034511 our data set is the result of charging a VtpwAoYalAE-00131-00034512-00034793 coin ten times came up hits seven times VtpwAoYalAE-00132-00034794-00035168 sales three times the model is that we VtpwAoYalAE-00133-00035169-00035411 have P probability four hits and 1 minus VtpwAoYalAE-00134-00035412-00035983 P probability 14 now let's nitrite this VtpwAoYalAE-00135-00035984-00036164 could in fact be solved analytically I VtpwAoYalAE-00136-00036165-00036332 have the goal here I remind you is to VtpwAoYalAE-00137-00036333-00036629 find the best possible value for P the VtpwAoYalAE-00138-00036630-00036854 best possible value for P is the value VtpwAoYalAE-00139-00036855-00037093 for P that maximizes the likely the VtpwAoYalAE-00140-00037094-00037258 value for P that gives us the highest VtpwAoYalAE-00141-00037259-00037432 probability of the data the highest VtpwAoYalAE-00142-00037433-00037754 lacking what is that value well as I say VtpwAoYalAE-00143-00037755-00037951 we could solve this analytically but VtpwAoYalAE-00144-00037952-00038176 let's just try to do it numerically VtpwAoYalAE-00145-00038177-00038354 instead because this is what typically VtpwAoYalAE-00146-00038355-00038570 happens in genetic analysis where VtpwAoYalAE-00147-00038571-00038896 analytical solutions are not possible so VtpwAoYalAE-00148-00038897-00039064 let's start out by looking at one VtpwAoYalAE-00149-00039065-00039257 possible parameter region let's say we VtpwAoYalAE-00150-00039258-00039424 look at the possible parameter value P VtpwAoYalAE-00151-00039425-00039949 equals 0.2 with P equals 0.2 if we use VtpwAoYalAE-00152-00039950-00040126 the formula I showed you for the VtpwAoYalAE-00153-00040127-00040376 binomial distribution we can compute in VtpwAoYalAE-00154-00040377-00040450 fact the VtpwAoYalAE-00155-00040451-00040666 ability of any possible outcome between VtpwAoYalAE-00156-00040667-00040966 zero and ten hits out of the ten sources VtpwAoYalAE-00157-00040967-00041233 for each of them we plug in we now have VtpwAoYalAE-00158-00041234-00041542 point two as the as the p-value we then VtpwAoYalAE-00159-00041543-00041776 plug in zero it's one heads two etcetera VtpwAoYalAE-00160-00041777-00041929 for each of them we compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00161-00041930-00042076 probability and we will then get a VtpwAoYalAE-00162-00042077-00042274 probability distribution like I've VtpwAoYalAE-00163-00042275-00042582 indicated at the top left of the slide VtpwAoYalAE-00164-00042583-00042856 you'll notice that with P equals point VtpwAoYalAE-00165-00042857-00043060 two the probability of getting seven VtpwAoYalAE-00166-00043061-00043252 heads which is the data we actually saw VtpwAoYalAE-00167-00043253-00043534 is not very high okay so we're trying VtpwAoYalAE-00168-00043535-00043780 out now a different value of P let's try VtpwAoYalAE-00169-00043781-00044011 at the value point three again we VtpwAoYalAE-00170-00044012-00044134 couldn't principle compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00171-00044135-00044398 probability of any plausible outcome the VtpwAoYalAE-00172-00044399-00044602 distribution has shifted a bit upwards VtpwAoYalAE-00173-00044603-00044851 now probability of getting seven heads VtpwAoYalAE-00174-00044852-00045154 is a bit larger not much but slightly VtpwAoYalAE-00175-00045155-00045540 better try with the value of twenty five VtpwAoYalAE-00176-00045541-00045796 distribution has shifted the probability VtpwAoYalAE-00177-00045797-00046021 of seven heads is significantly larger VtpwAoYalAE-00178-00046022-00046305 now try with the value of point seven VtpwAoYalAE-00179-00046306-00046627 again it shifts now the value of seven VtpwAoYalAE-00180-00046628-00046831 the probability of seven heads is is VtpwAoYalAE-00181-00046832-00047044 really quite a big better than it has VtpwAoYalAE-00182-00047045-00047338 been at any of our previous points try VtpwAoYalAE-00183-00047339-00047599 with a value of point nine distribution VtpwAoYalAE-00184-00047600-00047734 shifts further but now the probability VtpwAoYalAE-00185-00047735-00048046 of seven hits drops again as it turns VtpwAoYalAE-00186-00048047-00048325 out if we were to try thousands or VtpwAoYalAE-00187-00048326-00048577 millions or or some other huge number of VtpwAoYalAE-00188-00048578-00048850 possible values for the parameter P we VtpwAoYalAE-00189-00048851-00049039 would never find a value that was better VtpwAoYalAE-00190-00049040-00049198 than that of point seven VtpwAoYalAE-00191-00049199-00049618 this is it turns out the parameter value VtpwAoYalAE-00192-00049619-00049852 that maximizes the likelihood for this VtpwAoYalAE-00193-00049853-00050083 set of data given that we have observed VtpwAoYalAE-00194-00050084-00050353 seven hits out of ten sources the VtpwAoYalAE-00195-00050354-00050548 parameter value point seven is the VtpwAoYalAE-00196-00050549-00050734 parameter value that gives us the VtpwAoYalAE-00197-00050735-00050920 highest likelihood the highest VtpwAoYalAE-00198-00050921-00051199 probability of the data and this is VtpwAoYalAE-00199-00051200-00051358 therefore the maximum likelihood VtpwAoYalAE-00200-00051359-00051711 estimate we see of our parameter P VtpwAoYalAE-00201-00051712-00051982 notice that in principle we don't need VtpwAoYalAE-00202-00051983-00052191 to compute the entire distribution we're VtpwAoYalAE-00203-00052192-00052399 just interested in the probability of VtpwAoYalAE-00204-00052400-00052633 the data we actually solve in this case VtpwAoYalAE-00205-00052634-00052948 there are seven eights and this is the VtpwAoYalAE-00206-00052949-00053110 main ITN maximum likelihood it's not VtpwAoYalAE-00207-00053111-00053374 really complicated we have some data we VtpwAoYalAE-00208-00053375-00053604 are a model a hypothesis about the VtpwAoYalAE-00209-00053605-00053763 system we're looking at VtpwAoYalAE-00210-00053764-00053991 hypothesis should allow us to compute VtpwAoYalAE-00211-00053992-00054207 the probability of any plausible outcome VtpwAoYalAE-00212-00054208-00054439 including the one we have actually VtpwAoYalAE-00213-00054440-00054709 observed and the goal and maximum VtpwAoYalAE-00214-00054710-00054904 likelihood analysis is then you miracle VtpwAoYalAE-00215-00054904-00055183 II or analytically to find the parameter VtpwAoYalAE-00216-00055184-00055441 value or parameter values which makes my VtpwAoYalAE-00217-00055441-00055627 sis back to those parameter values that VtpwAoYalAE-00218-00055628-00055816 allow us to get the highest probability VtpwAoYalAE-00219-00055816-00056055 of our data often this is done VtpwAoYalAE-00220-00056057-00056260 numerically where computer randomly VtpwAoYalAE-00221-00056261-00056473 changes all parameter values until it VtpwAoYalAE-00222-00056474-00056886 finds a maximum in the case of phylogeny VtpwAoYalAE-00223-00056887-00057169 which is after all what we're working on VtpwAoYalAE-00224-00057170-00057397 here this is how it's done VtpwAoYalAE-00225-00057398-00057616 in the case of phylogeny the data that VtpwAoYalAE-00226-00057616-00057838 we're looking at is typically taken to VtpwAoYalAE-00227-00057839-00058091 be a multiple alignment of sequences VtpwAoYalAE-00228-00058092-00058392 notice that in principle this is again a VtpwAoYalAE-00229-00058394-00058678 simplification in principle the data is VtpwAoYalAE-00230-00058679-00058864 of course the individual sequences and VtpwAoYalAE-00231-00058865-00059095 we're if we say that the alignment is VtpwAoYalAE-00232-00059096-00059353 observed data then we're ignoring the VtpwAoYalAE-00233-00059354-00059551 possible errors that might occur in VtpwAoYalAE-00234-00059552-00059788 alignment of sequences but typically VtpwAoYalAE-00235-00059789-00060154 this is the approach we take the model VtpwAoYalAE-00236-00060154-00060415 the hypothesis we have that we're trying VtpwAoYalAE-00237-00060416-00060775 to to estimate parameters for here is a VtpwAoYalAE-00238-00060776-00061057 model of how one ancestral sequence has VtpwAoYalAE-00239-00061058-00061351 evolved into the sequences we have in VtpwAoYalAE-00240-00061352-00061542 our data set in this particular small VtpwAoYalAE-00241-00061544-00061795 example the three present-day sequences VtpwAoYalAE-00242-00061796-00062091 we have in our dataset that model would VtpwAoYalAE-00243-00062092-00062403 include as its parameters the tree shape VtpwAoYalAE-00244-00062404-00062730 the branch lengths where the branch VtpwAoYalAE-00245-00062732-00063034 length I'll remind you is the reflection VtpwAoYalAE-00246-00063035-00063223 of how many mutations have occurred on VtpwAoYalAE-00247-00063224-00063466 that branch it will include for instance VtpwAoYalAE-00248-00063466-00063646 parameters such as nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00249-00063647-00063855 frequencies and it will include VtpwAoYalAE-00250-00063857-00064099 parameters such as nucleotide nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00251-00064100-00064411 substitution rates which are the ones I VtpwAoYalAE-00252-00064412-00064582 showed you in the models in the previous VtpwAoYalAE-00253-00064583-00064905 lecture and as I also said they're from VtpwAoYalAE-00254-00064907-00065142 a nucleotide nucleotide substitution VtpwAoYalAE-00255-00065144-00065367 rate it's possible to compute a VtpwAoYalAE-00256-00065369-00065563 nucleotide nucleotide substitution VtpwAoYalAE-00257-00065564-00065842 probability for any particular time span VtpwAoYalAE-00258-00065843-00066280 T so this is the model this is the data VtpwAoYalAE-00259-00066281-00066535 sorry this is the model and in the case VtpwAoYalAE-00260-00066536-00066631 of phylogeny VtpwAoYalAE-00261-00066632-00066904 we will try them to find good using VtpwAoYalAE-00262-00066905-00067141 maximum likelihood estimates of VtpwAoYalAE-00263-00067142-00067339 reshape the branch links menu precise VtpwAoYalAE-00264-00067340-00067507 frequencies and the nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00265-00067508-00067771 nucleotide substitution base however VtpwAoYalAE-00266-00067772-00068011 that of course requires us to be able to VtpwAoYalAE-00267-00068012-00068212 compute the likelihood for the coin VtpwAoYalAE-00268-00068213-00068395 tossing example where a formula telling VtpwAoYalAE-00269-00068396-00068626 us for any given possible value of P VtpwAoYalAE-00270-00068627-00068836 what the likelihood would be for the VtpwAoYalAE-00271-00068837-00069181 data that we saw so how do we compute VtpwAoYalAE-00272-00069182-00069556 the likelihood of of at of the data set VtpwAoYalAE-00273-00069557-00069697 in the case of the dodging how do we VtpwAoYalAE-00274-00069698-00070009 compute the probability as it were of an VtpwAoYalAE-00275-00070010-00070459 alignment of sequences it turns out it's VtpwAoYalAE-00276-00070460-00070681 not that complicated on this slide I've VtpwAoYalAE-00277-00070682-00070873 shown you how to do it for one column in VtpwAoYalAE-00278-00070874-00071047 an alignment and on the next slide I'll VtpwAoYalAE-00279-00071048-00071320 then show you how to from that compute VtpwAoYalAE-00280-00071321-00071452 the probabilities of the entire VtpwAoYalAE-00281-00071453-00071923 alignment I remind you that when we're VtpwAoYalAE-00282-00071924-00072160 doing C genes sequence based a phylogeny VtpwAoYalAE-00283-00072161-00072385 then each trait that we're looking at VtpwAoYalAE-00284-00072386-00072643 corresponds or is one column in an VtpwAoYalAE-00285-00072644-00072817 alignment we're assuming that the VtpwAoYalAE-00286-00072818-00072982 nucleotides in one column of an VtpwAoYalAE-00287-00072983-00073213 alignment are homologous in the sense VtpwAoYalAE-00288-00073214-00073417 that they have evolved from some common VtpwAoYalAE-00289-00073418-00073600 ancestor there was some common ancestor VtpwAoYalAE-00290-00073601-00073831 originally the header DNA sequence at VtpwAoYalAE-00291-00073832-00074068 this particular location and the DNA VtpwAoYalAE-00292-00074069-00074326 sequence it had some neutral side might VtpwAoYalAE-00293-00074327-00074557 have been G G or C we don't know and VtpwAoYalAE-00294-00074558-00074776 then from that original ancestral VtpwAoYalAE-00295-00074777-00075022 nucleotide we now have false pieces VtpwAoYalAE-00296-00075023-00075298 which each have their own DNA sequence VtpwAoYalAE-00297-00075299-00075490 some of them are the same some of them VtpwAoYalAE-00298-00075491-00075619 are different but all of these VtpwAoYalAE-00299-00075620-00075847 nucleotides have evolved the a mutation VtpwAoYalAE-00300-00075848-00076123 is proper possibly from that original VtpwAoYalAE-00301-00076124-00076387 answer so how do we compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00302-00076388-00076561 probability of this column in the VtpwAoYalAE-00303-00076562-00076669 alignment how do we compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00304-00076670-00077020 likelihood for this column well as I VtpwAoYalAE-00305-00077021-00077356 said the model the hypothesis we have VtpwAoYalAE-00306-00077357-00077518 about how the sequences have been VtpwAoYalAE-00307-00077519-00077755 evolving included a number of parameters VtpwAoYalAE-00308-00077756-00078271 it includes a tree shape which as part VtpwAoYalAE-00309-00078272-00078475 of it has which nucleotide should be VtpwAoYalAE-00310-00078476-00078550 grouped together VtpwAoYalAE-00311-00078551-00078847 it has branch lengths as parameters it VtpwAoYalAE-00312-00078848-00079102 has nucleotide frequencies as parameters VtpwAoYalAE-00313-00079103-00079282 and it has nucleotide nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00314-00079283-00079585 substitution rates as parameters so VtpwAoYalAE-00315-00079586-00079789 let's say that we now randomly pick a VtpwAoYalAE-00316-00079790-00079975 set of parameter values let's say that VtpwAoYalAE-00317-00079976-00080167 we randomly select some tree for VtpwAoYalAE-00318-00080168-00080365 instance this one where the two T's are VtpwAoYalAE-00319-00080366-00080506 placed together VtpwAoYalAE-00320-00080507-00080677 and the C and the G then are together VtpwAoYalAE-00321-00080678-00080869 it's an unruly tree you will notice VtpwAoYalAE-00322-00080870-00081112 let's say that with randomly selects on VtpwAoYalAE-00323-00081113-00081355 branch length C one two three four one VtpwAoYalAE-00324-00081356-00081667 five let's say we randomly select some VtpwAoYalAE-00325-00081668-00081895 nucleotide frequencies that we call pi a VtpwAoYalAE-00326-00081896-00082255 pi c pi G and PI T and let's say that VtpwAoYalAE-00327-00082256-00082486 we've randomly selected some nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00328-00082487-00082771 nucleotide substitution rate matrix from VtpwAoYalAE-00329-00082772-00082993 which we can compute for each of the VtpwAoYalAE-00330-00082994-00083110 branch lengths here for each of the VtpwAoYalAE-00331-00083111-00083305 times from which we can compute the VtpwAoYalAE-00332-00083306-00083458 nucleotide nucleotide substitution VtpwAoYalAE-00333-00083459-00083767 probabilities if we've selected all of VtpwAoYalAE-00334-00083768-00083998 these random starting values for our VtpwAoYalAE-00335-00083999-00084205 parameters how would we compute the like VtpwAoYalAE-00336-00084206-00084520 it well we would do it as follows we VtpwAoYalAE-00337-00084521-00084874 would start in this tree with some note VtpwAoYalAE-00338-00084875-00085105 it could be an external node on internal VtpwAoYalAE-00339-00085106-00085342 nodes but it's for for this example VtpwAoYalAE-00340-00085343-00085620 start at the lower left here with the T VtpwAoYalAE-00341-00085621-00085992 so what is the probability of having a T VtpwAoYalAE-00342-00085993-00086284 probability of having a T is the same as VtpwAoYalAE-00343-00086285-00086488 the frequency of T probabilities that VtpwAoYalAE-00344-00086489-00086704 even any given nucleotide is T if we VtpwAoYalAE-00345-00086705-00086920 don't know anything else is simply the VtpwAoYalAE-00346-00086921-00087289 frequency of T or PI T so what's the VtpwAoYalAE-00347-00087290-00087535 probability of having at C here and then VtpwAoYalAE-00348-00087536-00087754 an a on the other end of this branch VtpwAoYalAE-00349-00087755-00088132 which has length t1 well we have to tear VtpwAoYalAE-00350-00088133-00088447 and we have da there so the joint VtpwAoYalAE-00351-00088448-00088693 probability is the probability of having VtpwAoYalAE-00352-00088694-00088969 the tea which was pi C times the VtpwAoYalAE-00353-00088970-00089194 probability that T will change into an A VtpwAoYalAE-00354-00089195-00089557 on a branch of that length so what's the VtpwAoYalAE-00355-00089558-00089764 probability of having T there a there VtpwAoYalAE-00356-00089765-00090031 and see there well we just take the VtpwAoYalAE-00357-00090032-00090277 previous expression and multiply that by VtpwAoYalAE-00358-00090278-00090499 the probability it's the probability MT VtpwAoYalAE-00359-00090500-00090724 times the probability of having C change VtpwAoYalAE-00360-00090725-00090910 into a time's the probability of having VtpwAoYalAE-00361-00090911-00091414 a change in sochi continuing we have to VtpwAoYalAE-00362-00091415-00091618 multiply that by the probability that a VtpwAoYalAE-00363-00091619-00091888 remains an a on the central branch we VtpwAoYalAE-00364-00091889-00092023 have to multiply that by the probability VtpwAoYalAE-00365-00092024-00092359 that a will change into G on this branch VtpwAoYalAE-00366-00092360-00092569 and finally multiply that by the VtpwAoYalAE-00367-00092570-00092788 probability that a will change in to see VtpwAoYalAE-00368-00092789-00093139 on the final branch so given a random VtpwAoYalAE-00369-00093140-00093352 starting set of parameters given a VtpwAoYalAE-00370-00093353-00093598 random starting tree a random set of VtpwAoYalAE-00371-00093599-00093772 branch lengths and random VtpwAoYalAE-00372-00093773-00093973 set of nucleotide frequencies and a VtpwAoYalAE-00373-00093974-00094176 random set of nucleotide nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00374-00094177-00094423 substitution rates from which we can VtpwAoYalAE-00375-00094424-00094593 imprinted will compute the nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00376-00094594-00094825 nucleotide substitution probabilities we VtpwAoYalAE-00377-00094826-00095051 can compute the like you'd like this VtpwAoYalAE-00378-00095052-00095341 you'll notice that in this example I VtpwAoYalAE-00379-00095342-00095599 just completely arbitrarily assumed that VtpwAoYalAE-00380-00095600-00095899 the ancestral nucleotides were both a we VtpwAoYalAE-00381-00095900-00096034 don't know that of course VtpwAoYalAE-00382-00096035-00096337 we therefore need to redo the VtpwAoYalAE-00383-00096338-00096571 computation I just showed you where the VtpwAoYalAE-00384-00096572-00096768 two ancestor of nucleotides were a na VtpwAoYalAE-00385-00096769-00097044 for all the other possible combinations VtpwAoYalAE-00386-00097045-00097354 of ancestral nucleotides and the example VtpwAoYalAE-00387-00097355-00097492 I showed you here we have two and VtpwAoYalAE-00388-00097493-00097846 central notes this each of them can take VtpwAoYalAE-00389-00097847-00098074 on four different nucleotides giving us VtpwAoYalAE-00390-00098075-00098307 a total of sixteen possible combinations VtpwAoYalAE-00391-00098308-00098554 for each of these 16 possible VtpwAoYalAE-00392-00098555-00099057 combinations a a CAG ata etc up to titi VtpwAoYalAE-00393-00099058-00099294 you could redo the computation on the VtpwAoYalAE-00394-00099295-00099576 previous slide according to this recipe VtpwAoYalAE-00395-00099577-00099793 for each of them that would give the VtpwAoYalAE-00396-00099794-00100012 probability of this column in the VtpwAoYalAE-00397-00100013-00100212 alignment if those were the two VtpwAoYalAE-00398-00100213-00100522 ancestral nucleotides by summing up all VtpwAoYalAE-00399-00100523-00100717 of these different possible ways of VtpwAoYalAE-00400-00100718-00100950 getting that column you get the overall VtpwAoYalAE-00401-00100951-00101167 probability of that column in the VtpwAoYalAE-00402-00101168-00101416 alignment the overall like yield so that VtpwAoYalAE-00403-00101417-00101761 column in the alignment now you can now VtpwAoYalAE-00404-00101762-00101929 do the same for all the remaining VtpwAoYalAE-00405-00101930-00102154 columns in the alignment each time you VtpwAoYalAE-00406-00102155-00102318 have a column in the alignment you would VtpwAoYalAE-00407-00102319-00102660 redo this computation where you then of VtpwAoYalAE-00408-00102661-00102838 course had to substitute the nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00409-00102839-00103179 edit for that particular column this VtpwAoYalAE-00410-00103180-00103353 would give you a like for each separate VtpwAoYalAE-00411-00103354-00103588 column the way you now find the VtpwAoYalAE-00412-00103589-00103852 likelihood of the entire alignment is by VtpwAoYalAE-00413-00103853-00104023 making the additional assumption that VtpwAoYalAE-00414-00104024-00104244 every single precision in the sequence VtpwAoYalAE-00415-00104245-00104527 evolves independently the way you VtpwAoYalAE-00416-00104528-00104769 combine independent probabilities is by VtpwAoYalAE-00417-00104770-00104950 multiplying them so the overall VtpwAoYalAE-00418-00104951-00105151 probability of your entire Lineman is VtpwAoYalAE-00419-00105152-00105408 found by multiplying the probabilities VtpwAoYalAE-00420-00105409-00105628 of each column the likelihood for each VtpwAoYalAE-00421-00105629-00105960 column this can be written more VtpwAoYalAE-00422-00105961-00106189 compressed like this the product of the VtpwAoYalAE-00423-00106190-00106426 likelihood for each column going from 1 VtpwAoYalAE-00424-00106427-00106709 up to the number of columns VtpwAoYalAE-00425-00106710-00107103 a small computer detail here you'll VtpwAoYalAE-00426-00107104-00107253 notice that each of these are VtpwAoYalAE-00427-00107254-00107424 probabilities they are quite small VtpwAoYalAE-00428-00107425-00107673 numbers numbers between 0 and 1 if you VtpwAoYalAE-00429-00107674-00107861 have a very large alignment with many VtpwAoYalAE-00430-00107863-00108150 columns then if you multiply a great VtpwAoYalAE-00431-00108151-00108423 many small numbers you will end up with VtpwAoYalAE-00432-00108424-00108606 a really really really small number and VtpwAoYalAE-00433-00108607-00108809 you can run into something called VtpwAoYalAE-00434-00108810-00109061 underflow errors that's a technicality VtpwAoYalAE-00435-00109063-00109356 with computers to avoid that most VtpwAoYalAE-00436-00109357-00109559 Falacci the software instead of directly VtpwAoYalAE-00437-00109560-00109784 computing likelihoods and instead VtpwAoYalAE-00438-00109785-00110078 computes lock light loads this is simply VtpwAoYalAE-00439-00110079-00110204 where you're taking the natural VtpwAoYalAE-00440-00110205-00110507 logarithm of this equation so instead of VtpwAoYalAE-00441-00110508-00110820 multiplying likelihoods to find the log VtpwAoYalAE-00442-00110821-00111083 of the likelihood you instead some locks VtpwAoYalAE-00443-00111084-00111428 of light codes the logarithm of of a VtpwAoYalAE-00444-00111429-00111678 product is the sum of the docks of each VtpwAoYalAE-00445-00111679-00112113 term that's mad also so often you will VtpwAoYalAE-00446-00112114-00112308 run into dock light loads instead of VtpwAoYalAE-00447-00112308-00112740 like loads and this is mine so as I say VtpwAoYalAE-00448-00112741-00113040 you have a fallujah Natick tree we VtpwAoYalAE-00449-00113041-00113268 randomly selected a tree we've randomly VtpwAoYalAE-00450-00113269-00113496 selected the other parameters and as I VtpwAoYalAE-00451-00113497-00113690 say you don't know what the ancestral VtpwAoYalAE-00452-00113691-00113922 nucleotides are for the two ancestral VtpwAoYalAE-00453-00113923-00114147 notes and you therefore have to for each VtpwAoYalAE-00454-00114148-00114365 possible combination of ancestral VtpwAoYalAE-00455-00114366-00114633 nucleotides to do the computation for VtpwAoYalAE-00456-00114633-00114846 each of them you get a number finally if VtpwAoYalAE-00457-00114847-00115050 you sum all of those up you will find VtpwAoYalAE-00458-00115051-00115269 the sum you will have actually the VtpwAoYalAE-00459-00115270-00115529 opportunity each of you to do this for VtpwAoYalAE-00460-00115530-00115776 one particular randomly selected set of VtpwAoYalAE-00461-00115777-00116040 ancestral nucleotides in the manual VtpwAoYalAE-00462-00116041-00116590 exercise that you will do after this so VtpwAoYalAE-00463-00116591-00116861 how does the computer program find a VtpwAoYalAE-00464-00116863-00117290 maximum light utility well as I say the VtpwAoYalAE-00465-00117291-00117465 signing point is a sequence alignment VtpwAoYalAE-00466-00117466-00117659 you provide your program the sequence VtpwAoYalAE-00467-00117660-00118065 alignment the model is a model of how VtpwAoYalAE-00468-00118066-00118314 one ancestral original sequence has VtpwAoYalAE-00469-00118315-00118482 evolved into all the present-day VtpwAoYalAE-00470-00118483-00118824 sequences in your alignment that model VtpwAoYalAE-00471-00118825-00119046 will have as its parameters the tree VtpwAoYalAE-00472-00119047-00119328 shape the branch lengths the nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00473-00119329-00119496 frequencies and the nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00474-00119497-00119694 nucleotide substitution rates at least VtpwAoYalAE-00475-00119695-00119988 you could have other parameters also the VtpwAoYalAE-00476-00119989-00120089 way that the computer VtpwAoYalAE-00477-00120090-00120296 program will find the best estimate of VtpwAoYalAE-00478-00120297-00120527 these parameters is very much like VtpwAoYalAE-00479-00120528-00120733 heuristic searching for presumably for VtpwAoYalAE-00480-00120734-00120983 instance you start out choosing some VtpwAoYalAE-00481-00120983-00121172 random initial values for all your VtpwAoYalAE-00482-00121173-00121478 parameters for those random initial VtpwAoYalAE-00483-00121479-00121673 parameters for the random tree random VtpwAoYalAE-00484-00121674-00121856 branch length the random nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00485-00121857-00122063 frequencies the random nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00486-00122064-00122282 nucleotide substitution rates do now VtpwAoYalAE-00487-00122283-00122522 compute the likelihood according to the VtpwAoYalAE-00488-00122523-00122756 recipe I showed you on this previous VtpwAoYalAE-00489-00122757-00122959 slide in principle you could do it by VtpwAoYalAE-00490-00122960-00123113 hand it would be really boring but you VtpwAoYalAE-00491-00123114-00123392 could do it by hand anyway for those VtpwAoYalAE-00492-00123393-00123586 randomly chosen initial values the VtpwAoYalAE-00493-00123588-00123786 computer program computes the like it VtpwAoYalAE-00494-00123788-00124040 the idea is then that the program VtpwAoYalAE-00495-00124041-00124343 gradually iteratively step-by-step tries VtpwAoYalAE-00496-00124344-00124589 changing the values of every single VtpwAoYalAE-00497-00124590-00124847 parameter in the tree it tries shifting VtpwAoYalAE-00498-00124848-00125030 the tree a bit around using for instance VtpwAoYalAE-00499-00125031-00125236 there is neighbor interchange or tree by VtpwAoYalAE-00500-00125238-00125423 section every connection it tries VtpwAoYalAE-00501-00125424-00125657 changing the branch length by small VtpwAoYalAE-00502-00125658-00125894 amounts it tries changing the nucleotide VtpwAoYalAE-00503-00125895-00126098 frequencies and it tries changing the VtpwAoYalAE-00504-00126099-00126281 nucleotide nucleotide substitution rates VtpwAoYalAE-00505-00126282-00126590 it tries to just do that in a manner so VtpwAoYalAE-00506-00126591-00126811 that it constantly increases the VtpwAoYalAE-00507-00126813-00127013 likelihood and by moving around VtpwAoYalAE-00508-00127014-00127232 parameter space like this numerically VtpwAoYalAE-00509-00127233-00127496 making small changes in directions that VtpwAoYalAE-00510-00127497-00127724 increase the likelihood it keeps doing VtpwAoYalAE-00511-00127725-00128021 that until it found some maximum this VtpwAoYalAE-00512-00128022-00128236 will be a local optimum it's not VtpwAoYalAE-00513-00128238-00128450 guaranteed to be the global optimum but VtpwAoYalAE-00514-00128451-00128681 again if you start out number of VtpwAoYalAE-00515-00128682-00128855 different places and you always end up VtpwAoYalAE-00516-00128856-00129029 on the same peak there's a good chance VtpwAoYalAE-00517-00129030-00129230 that you have actually found the global VtpwAoYalAE-00518-00129231-00129473 maximum at this point you would have VtpwAoYalAE-00519-00129474-00129689 found the maximum likelihood estimate of VtpwAoYalAE-00520-00129690-00129908 the tree topology but you will also have VtpwAoYalAE-00521-00129908-00130079 found to maximum likelihood estimate of VtpwAoYalAE-00522-00130080-00130268 the branch lengths and of the other VtpwAoYalAE-00523-00130269-00130529 motor parameters and finally as we VtpwAoYalAE-00524-00130530-00130724 return to later on you at the same time VtpwAoYalAE-00525-00130725-00130958 actually have a measure of how well your VtpwAoYalAE-00526-00130958-00131120 model fits the data namely the VtpwAoYalAE-00527-00131121-00131405 likelihood of this maximum likelihood VtpwAoYalAE-00528-00131406-00131678 estimate this can be used in various VtpwAoYalAE-00529-00131679-00131882 ways that we'll return to when we talk VtpwAoYalAE-00530-00131883-00132294 about modulation VtpwAoYalAE-00531-00132295-00132681 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00000-00000259-00001079 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00001-00001080-00001204 do Vuhn6B8LqNg-00002-00001205-00001943 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00003-00001944-00004047 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00004-00004047-00004794 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00006-00008503-00009143 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00007-00009144-00010151 [Music] Vuhn6B8LqNg-00008-00010152-00010452 okay VuvMkxzC6_g-00000-00000000-00000260 when hayfever Poland invades your VuvMkxzC6_g-00001-00000261-00000455 sinuses brings runny nose VuvMkxzC6_g-00002-00000456-00000767 what realize take Kristin Kristin's like 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sudden I don't look at anything the same V-SZGGEZJH8-00013-00004505-00004697 way gotta build up on my thoughts V-SZGGEZJH8-00014-00004698-00004972 sitting in an ashtray I'm sorry that I'm V-SZGGEZJH8-00015-00004973-00005291 so inconvenient okay just let me be me V-SZGGEZJH8-00016-00005292-00005488 and I'll stay out of your way I could V-SZGGEZJH8-00017-00005489-00005681 see the way you look at me I'm such a V-SZGGEZJH8-00018-00005682-00005938 disgrace I never really asked to be V-SZGGEZJH8-00019-00005939-00006161 brought into this place you wanna love V-SZGGEZJH8-00020-00006162-00006400 me well then baby have a taste all the V-SZGGEZJH8-00021-00006401-00006598 highs and the lows now you'll never be V-SZGGEZJH8-00022-00006600-00006803 the same I don't really wanna hurt you V-SZGGEZJH8-00023-00006804-00006995 but I can't control the pain if you're V-SZGGEZJH8-00024-00006995-00007205 sticking by my side maybe we could be V-SZGGEZJH8-00025-00007206-00007528 okay okay okay maybe you could be the V-SZGGEZJH8-00026-00007529-00007828 change I need today I promise that I'm V-SZGGEZJH8-00027-00007829-00008123 there Rebel this way I really hope that V-SZGGEZJH8-00028-00008123-00008428 you will choose to stay through all the V-SZGGEZJH8-00029-00008429-00008635 pain V-SZGGEZJH8-00030-00008636-00009234 you're not okay V-SZGGEZJH8-00031-00009235-00010033 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00032-00010034-00010297 but I know V-SZGGEZJH8-00033-00010298-00011903 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00034-00011904-00012423 stupid baby V-SZGGEZJH8-00035-00012424-00013115 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00036-00013116-00013622 thank you V-SZGGEZJH8-00037-00013622-00014222 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00038-00014222-00014826 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00039-00014827-00015426 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00040-00015427-00016022 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00041-00016024-00016567 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00042-00016568-00016744 it's always V-SZGGEZJH8-00043-00016745-00017683 [Applause] V-SZGGEZJH8-00044-00017684-00018169 felt that way V-SZGGEZJH8-00045-00018170-00019441 until I look away V-SZGGEZJH8-00046-00019442-00020303 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00047-00020304-00020690 shoot down V-SZGGEZJH8-00048-00020691-00021840 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00049-00021841-00022621 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00050-00022622-00022847 thank you V-SZGGEZJH8-00051-00022848-00023153 I know you told your friend you're not V-SZGGEZJH8-00052-00023154-00024056 okay V-SZGGEZJH8-00053-00024057-00024900 [Music] V-SZGGEZJH8-00054-00024901-00025076 to cry V-SZGGEZJH8-00055-00025077-00025461 [Music] V_it4oOzaTc-00000-00001861-00002097 but I don't think they don't put on a V_it4oOzaTc-00001-00002098-00002651 baton oh that's very close I think it V_it4oOzaTc-00002-00002652-00002849 knit back a little bit that's what he's V_it4oOzaTc-00003-00002850-00003384 looking for it wasn't far away I'm not V_it4oOzaTc-00004-00003385-00003579 sure what Clarke's gonna do that the V_it4oOzaTc-00005-00003579-00003675 clock is ticking V_it4oOzaTc-00006-00003676-00003981 they'd better be quick when I suspect V_it4oOzaTc-00007-00003982-00004158 that my repeat outside leg considering V_it4oOzaTc-00008-00004159-00004361 the angle the Copeland's bowling from V_it4oOzaTc-00009-00004362-00004622 ten seconds yes he's got it in he's got V_it4oOzaTc-00010-00004623-00004868 it in with a second to spare I tell you V_it4oOzaTc-00011-00004869-00005082 what he was about to get rubbed out V_it4oOzaTc-00012-00005083-00005292 their clock they've they're going for it V_it4oOzaTc-00013-00005293-00005649 and I I think it's going to be very V_it4oOzaTc-00014-00005650-00006213 close actually let's have a look V_it4oOzaTc-00015-00006214-00006506 that's okay it's just where did it land V_it4oOzaTc-00016-00006506-00006656 and I'm sure hoping the rest appeal V_it4oOzaTc-00017-00006656-00006770 because it might have been going on to V_it4oOzaTc-00018-00006770-00007489 hit Wow outside leg for me well I don't V_it4oOzaTc-00019-00007490-00007727 think it fits outside leg I think I V_it4oOzaTc-00020-00007728-00007960 think it held up but it may be too high V_it4oOzaTc-00021-00007961-00008213 hit him on the roll let's have a look V_it4oOzaTc-00022-00008214-00008371 there we go I see it's pitching middle V_it4oOzaTc-00023-00008372-00008537 and straightening down the line look I V_it4oOzaTc-00024-00008538-00008852 gotta say I said I thought this is very V_it4oOzaTc-00025-00008853-00009179 close and I think it now look it more V_it4oOzaTc-00026-00009180-00009434 than half the ball has got to be below V_it4oOzaTc-00027-00009435-00009794 the top of the BIOS so this is going to V_it4oOzaTc-00028-00009795-00009952 be the issue here V_it4oOzaTc-00029-00009953-00010223 there it is pitching on middle ooh boy V_it4oOzaTc-00030-00010224-00010730 I'm afraid to say it's all over oh yes V_it4oOzaTc-00031-00010731-00011048 good appeal it took their time but this V_it4oOzaTc-00032-00011049-00011396 is just about 50/50 or maybe not maybe V_it4oOzaTc-00033-00011397-00011576 it's fifty two forty eight the balls V_it4oOzaTc-00034-00011577-00011902 outside the middle of the stump so it V_it4oOzaTc-00035-00011903-00012266 could still be empires call yes it is a V_it4oOzaTc-00036-00012267-00012535 limb DARS got this one right by I think V_it4oOzaTc-00037-00012536-00012701 about two percenters of the middle of V_it4oOzaTc-00038-00012702-00012890 the ball was ridiculous just outside V_it4oOzaTc-00039-00012891-00013158 that caught the umpires call V_it4oOzaTc-00040-00013159-00013508 that's not unbiased call I want to know V_it4oOzaTc-00041-00013509-00013926 where the umpires call comes in I think V_it4oOzaTc-00042-00013927-00014208 that that was the the instruction from V_it4oOzaTc-00043-00014209-00014415 upstairs but I'm trying to work out V_it4oOzaTc-00044-00014416-00014625 where the umpires call comes in come on V_it4oOzaTc-00045-00014626-00014757 you explore the only suggestion I have V_it4oOzaTc-00046-00014758-00014958 we take a look at that again and zoom on V_it4oOzaTc-00047-00014959-00015021 it V_it4oOzaTc-00048-00015022-00015375 the Hawkeye suggests that biggest V_it4oOzaTc-00049-00015376-00015638 section of the ball was outside the V_it4oOzaTc-00050-00015640-00015861 stump when we take a look at from V_it4oOzaTc-00051-00015862-00016094 another angle this is what I'm talking V_it4oOzaTc-00052-00016095-00016464 about it shows when you zoom in that V_it4oOzaTc-00053-00016465-00016782 there's just a percentage of to that the V_it4oOzaTc-00054-00016783-00016947 center of the seam is outside legs down V_it4oOzaTc-00055-00016948-00017283 off stump in that case well I'm gonna V_it4oOzaTc-00056-00017284-00017508 say to you I I thought it applied to the V_it4oOzaTc-00057-00017509-00017793 outside of the stunt and if you take the V_it4oOzaTc-00058-00017794-00018027 outside of the stump you look at the V_it4oOzaTc-00059-00018028-00018267 outside of the stump there's more than V_it4oOzaTc-00060-00018268-00018552 half the ball if you're taking the V_it4oOzaTc-00061-00018553-00018797 middle of the stump then it's exactly V_it4oOzaTc-00062-00018798-00019044 half of the ball that's out it's just V_it4oOzaTc-00063-00019045-00019272 less than half according to this picture V_it4oOzaTc-00064-00019273-00019488 but of course if it's outside of the V_it4oOzaTc-00065-00019489-00019644 stump in its well out but if it's the V_it4oOzaTc-00066-00019645-00019875 only line I see them and I think they're V_it4oOzaTc-00067-00019876-00020277 giving too much too much to the umpire V_it4oOzaTc-00068-00020278-00020547 at the moment see that for me is if you V_it4oOzaTc-00069-00020548-00020733 took the outside of the stump now if you V_it4oOzaTc-00070-00020734-00020988 said to the outside of the stump was the V_it4oOzaTc-00071-00020989-00021275 line then I'd accept it and that more V_it4oOzaTc-00072-00021276-00021417 than half of the ball had to be from the V_it4oOzaTc-00073-00021418-00021575 outside of the stunt that'll be fine by V_it4oOzaTc-00074-00021576-00021722 me but I mean that's hitting the middle V_it4oOzaTc-00075-00021723-00021921 of leg stump there's no doubt about that V_it4oOzaTc-00076-00021922-00022164 I mean part of off stop part of the V_it4oOzaTc-00077-00022165-00022416 balls V_it4oOzaTc-00078-00022417-00022606 maybe you know but we're certainly V_it4oOzaTc-00079-00022607-00022870 eating off stump and the current rules V_it4oOzaTc-00080-00022871-00023068 will indicate that he was not out by oh V_it4oOzaTc-00081-00023069-00023455 just a whisker team pack has to be V_it4oOzaTc-00082-00023456-00023737 outside this line of the stumps or it V_it4oOzaTc-00083-00023738-00024121 has to miss the stumps pitching in line V_it4oOzaTc-00084-00024122-00024460 I think this might be out because that V_it4oOzaTc-00085-00024461-00024862 one turned from around the wicked it has V_it4oOzaTc-00086-00024863-00025048 to miss the stumps completely to be V_it4oOzaTc-00087-00025049-00025348 turned over because this one looked to V_it4oOzaTc-00088-00025349-00025594 me it looked like that it's gonna go on V_it4oOzaTc-00089-00025595-00025836 and hit the leg stump pitched in line V_it4oOzaTc-00090-00025837-00026077 maybe outside the line but hit him in V_it4oOzaTc-00091-00026077-00026707 line that's the key that's not problem V_it4oOzaTc-00092-00026708-00026848 pitched in line V_it4oOzaTc-00093-00026849-00027010 hit him in line it is gonna go and hit V_it4oOzaTc-00094-00027011-00027187 the stumps that's the key Oh V_it4oOzaTc-00095-00027188-00027643 bounced over it I can't believe that V_it4oOzaTc-00096-00027644-00028137 looked plum to me but look at the bounce V_it4oOzaTc-00097-00028138-00028370 [Music] V_it4oOzaTc-00098-00028372-00028981 in the review that was taken a notch mal V_it4oOzaTc-00099-00028982-00029364 was disappointed to see it bounce over V_it4oOzaTc-00100-00029366-00030343 and did not get that overturned plenty V_it4oOzaTc-00101-00030344-00032389 of reactions consultation about this one V_it4oOzaTc-00102-00032389-00033890 here he's gonna refer it as well V_it4oOzaTc-00103-00033891-00034480 Oh checking their nodule impact inline V_it4oOzaTc-00104-00034481-00035346 wickets missing V_it4oOzaTc-00105-00035347-00035939 back to Nigel the balls missing and I'll V_it4oOzaTc-00106-00035940-00036074 get you to change your decision to not V_it4oOzaTc-00107-00036075-00037730 out thanks man you're hearing it V_it4oOzaTc-00108-00037731-00038212 firsthand from Nigel long and I've got V_it4oOzaTc-00109-00038213-00038801 to say I'm with him on this he can't V_it4oOzaTc-00110-00038802-00039136 believe that there is missing the stamps V_it4oOzaTc-00111-00039137-00039529 he can't and I can't either V_it4oOzaTc-00112-00039530-00040131 Wow V_it4oOzaTc-00113-00040132-00040347 who'd now work Macedo Naja long I was V_it4oOzaTc-00114-00040348-00040557 reversing back in and he said I agree V_it4oOzaTc-00115-00040558-00040920 that's why I gave it out ball tracking V_it4oOzaTc-00116-00040921-00041093 didn't show you this he with closed eyes V_it4oOzaTc-00117-00041094-00041301 starts to swing back in there as far as V_it4oOzaTc-00118-00041302-00041396 I'm concern I think that's hitting V_it4oOzaTc-00119-00041397-00041633 middle it's not missing off stub from my V_it4oOzaTc-00120-00041634-00042023 naked eye that's heading middle stump V_it4oOzaTc-00121-00042024-00042237 well tracking had it missing off stump V_it4oOzaTc-00122-00042238-00042474 as well but the other side so you have a V_it4oOzaTc-00123-00042475-00042645 minute heading middle tracking as it V_it4oOzaTc-00124-00042646-00042750 just missing me I find that very V_it4oOzaTc-00125-00042751-00043011 surprising that to me was carrying in V_it4oOzaTc-00126-00043012-00043112 the stumps you looked up at the first V_it4oOzaTc-00127-00043113-00043386 replay and you think god you just start V_it4oOzaTc-00128-00043387-00043584 walking as a batsman well that means V_it4oOzaTc-00129-00043585-00043776 it's gonna go at right angles from the V_it4oOzaTc-00130-00043777-00044373 point that it hits Hadson the only thing V_it4oOzaTc-00131-00044374-00044592 I'll say is that he did bold from very V_it4oOzaTc-00132-00044593-00045594 wide out very very why V_it4oOzaTc-00134-00058036-00059670 [Music] V_it4oOzaTc-00135-00059671-00059877 you V_VePOrO24u-00000-00000071-00001401 foreign V_VePOrO24u-00001-00001402-00003226 [Music] V_VePOrO24u-00002-00003227-00003576 foreign V_VePOrO24u-00004-00006756-00007073 foreign V_VePOrO24u-00005-00007073-00009869 [Music] V_VePOrO24u-00006-00009870-00010098 foreign V_VePOrO24u-00007-00010099-00013055 [Music] V_VePOrO24u-00008-00013056-00013408 foreign V_VePOrO24u-00009-00013409-00016216 [Music] V_VePOrO24u-00010-00016218-00016395 foreign V_VePOrO24u-00011-00016396-00017236 [Music] VBJ8mkZlIVg-00000-00000039-00000199 in this video we're going to learn how VBJ8mkZlIVg-00001-00000200-00000335 to align or VBJ8mkZlIVg-00002-00000336-00000671 line up two objects so i've got my cube VBJ8mkZlIVg-00003-00000672-00000782 here and i've got VBJ8mkZlIVg-00004-00000783-00001023 my cylinder here and what i'm going to VBJ8mkZlIVg-00005-00001024-00001199 do is i'm going to select the cube VBJ8mkZlIVg-00006-00001200-00001374 i'm going to hold shift on my keyboard VBJ8mkZlIVg-00007-00001375-00001543 and then also select VBJ8mkZlIVg-00008-00001544-00001702 the cylinder and you see that this VBJ8mkZlIVg-00009-00001703-00001871 little box around shows that both of VBJ8mkZlIVg-00010-00001872-00002110 these objects are actually selected VBJ8mkZlIVg-00011-00002111-00002463 so what i can do now is come up to here VBJ8mkZlIVg-00012-00002464-00002567 and click on the VBJ8mkZlIVg-00013-00002568-00002950 alignment tab and these extra little VBJ8mkZlIVg-00014-00002951-00003110 markers come up here handles come up VBJ8mkZlIVg-00015-00003111-00003247 here and they all have different VBJ8mkZlIVg-00016-00003247-00003319 meanings VBJ8mkZlIVg-00017-00003320-00003695 so basically this means that VBJ8mkZlIVg-00018-00003696-00004022 on the y-axis that VBJ8mkZlIVg-00019-00004023-00004254 the centers of both objects are going to VBJ8mkZlIVg-00020-00004255-00004375 line up so if you click VBJ8mkZlIVg-00021-00004376-00004543 you see there i'm not going to click but VBJ8mkZlIVg-00022-00004544-00004735 you can see in there the actual VBJ8mkZlIVg-00023-00004736-00004831 cylinders move to VBJ8mkZlIVg-00024-00004832-00005095 to the to the back and the cues move to VBJ8mkZlIVg-00025-00005096-00005279 the right so their centers line up VBJ8mkZlIVg-00026-00005280-00005454 now i can do the same in that i can get VBJ8mkZlIVg-00027-00005455-00005695 both the back edges to line up VBJ8mkZlIVg-00028-00005696-00005895 and the front edges to line up and you VBJ8mkZlIVg-00029-00005896-00006006 do it this way as well too VBJ8mkZlIVg-00030-00006007-00006286 i can make the left hand side right up VBJ8mkZlIVg-00031-00006287-00006478 or the right hand side line up VBJ8mkZlIVg-00032-00006479-00006703 or the middle line up you can also do it VBJ8mkZlIVg-00033-00006704-00006823 for height VBJ8mkZlIVg-00034-00006823-00007031 so i can move the cube up the top of the VBJ8mkZlIVg-00035-00007031-00007151 cube to be the same VBJ8mkZlIVg-00036-00007152-00007375 position as the top of the cylinder i VBJ8mkZlIVg-00037-00007376-00007574 can have the centers being the same VBJ8mkZlIVg-00038-00007575-00007798 and we can also do the bottom so if i VBJ8mkZlIVg-00039-00007800-00007959 was to click on VBJ8mkZlIVg-00040-00007959-00008134 this one you can see they've lined up VBJ8mkZlIVg-00041-00008136-00008359 there and i was to click on this one you VBJ8mkZlIVg-00042-00008360-00008542 can see they've lined up that way VBJ8mkZlIVg-00043-00008543-00008791 if i just click on this one you can see VBJ8mkZlIVg-00044-00008792-00008919 that the actual VBJ8mkZlIVg-00045-00008920-00009159 cube and the cylinder are perfectly VBJ8mkZlIVg-00046-00009160-00009335 lined up with each other VBJ8mkZlIVg-00047-00009336-00009603 so that's how you do alignment 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their VFAAePIJ3Pc-00011-00003721-00004350 Christmas hello grandpa Kurt my dad is VFAAePIJ3Pc-00012-00004351-00004491 gonna scoff at everything you do your VFAAePIJ3Pc-00013-00004492-00004695 father hasn't met the new of all dusty I VFAAePIJ3Pc-00014-00004696-00004955 mean who wouldn't be impressed with you VFAAePIJ3Pc-00015-00004956-00005370 dear God he's gonna come up we're dusty VFAAePIJ3Pc-00016-00005371-00005606 but he's beautiful VFAAePIJ3Pc-00017-00005607-00005759 why don't you bring the car around I'm VFAAePIJ3Pc-00018-00005760-00006080 not the driver I'm Brad stepdad my dad's VFAAePIJ3Pc-00019-00006081-00006286 coming too VFAAePIJ3Pc-00020-00006287-00006515 sweater he wears a red sweater so I can VFAAePIJ3Pc-00021-00006516-00007198 see him in a crowd I just remember in VFAAePIJ3Pc-00022-00007200-00007418 the theater watching Mel dance any time VFAAePIJ3Pc-00023-00007419-00007604 I think I ignored John a bit cuz I would VFAAePIJ3Pc-00024-00007605-00007856 always be imitating him you know but I VFAAePIJ3Pc-00025-00007856-00008027 mean obviously it was the there's the VFAAePIJ3Pc-00026-00008028-00008318 form of flattery because I was just you VFAAePIJ3Pc-00027-00008319-00008462 know thoroughly enjoyed watching him VFAAePIJ3Pc-00028-00008463-00008609 there was a point in the theater to VFAAePIJ3Pc-00029-00008610-00008783 where we're all kind of hugging and VFAAePIJ3Pc-00030-00008784-00009137 dancing and there was a the griffey the VFAAePIJ3Pc-00031-00009138-00009359 little little baby we sometimes had a VFAAePIJ3Pc-00032-00009360-00009623 little stand in for Griffey a doll VFAAePIJ3Pc-00033-00009624-00010031 creepy doll and at one point it's not in VFAAePIJ3Pc-00034-00010032-00010457 the movie but I took to throwing Griffey VFAAePIJ3Pc-00035-00010458-00010751 into the air and I'll of course we've VFAAePIJ3Pc-00036-00010752-00011216 caught it but that became we were I had VFAAePIJ3Pc-00037-00011217-00011560 tears so this code dads think you got to VFAAePIJ3Pc-00038-00011561-00011726 ask another man's permission to see your VFAAePIJ3Pc-00039-00011727-00011798 own kid VFAAePIJ3Pc-00040-00011799-00011957 everything is rock-solid between me and VFAAePIJ3Pc-00041-00011958-00012398 bread in fact best friends really bad VFAAePIJ3Pc-00042-00012399-00012470 thank you VFAAePIJ3Pc-00043-00012471-00013013 stop it oh good cuz we're boys here's VFAAePIJ3Pc-00044-00013013-00013160 the game plan you won't be that one that VFAAePIJ3Pc-00045-00013161-00013337 she tells you about all of her problems VFAAePIJ3Pc-00046-00013338-00013513 with the guys she's actually dating it's VFAAePIJ3Pc-00047-00013515-00013757 called the friendzone no no the worst VFAAePIJ3Pc-00048-00013758-00013913 advice anyone could give you we want to VFAAePIJ3Pc-00049-00013913-00014021 be like Brad and be in the friend zone VFAAePIJ3Pc-00050-00014022-00014144 you want to be like dad and get the end VFAAePIJ3Pc-00051-00014144-00014453 zone oh gosh that's piercing eyes like a VFAAePIJ3Pc-00052-00014454-00014644 velociraptor the holiday setting is VFAAePIJ3Pc-00053-00014645-00015011 perfect the aspirations of chasing the VFAAePIJ3Pc-00054-00015012-00015206 perfect Christmas is a great idea and VFAAePIJ3Pc-00055-00015207-00015608 the subject matter of sons and fathers VFAAePIJ3Pc-00056-00015609-00015994 and children and parents and difficult VFAAePIJ3Pc-00057-00015995-00016157 situations in the home front I think VFAAePIJ3Pc-00058-00016158-00016478 that that is prevalent and and readily VFAAePIJ3Pc-00059-00016479-00016685 accessible in society today and will be VFAAePIJ3Pc-00060-00016686-00016874 in the future I just think it's that's VFAAePIJ3Pc-00061-00016875-00017093 what's going to keep the movie pushing VFAAePIJ3Pc-00062-00017094-00017358 forward to stay on the test of time VFAAePIJ3Pc-00063-00017359-00017576 don't you want to spend the holidays the VFAAePIJ3Pc-00064-00017577-00017822 one true real dad found a long way up VFAAePIJ3Pc-00065-00017823-00017942 here just to get back in it VFAAePIJ3Pc-00066-00017943-00018113 yep they're opening up the heart of VFAAePIJ3Pc-00067-00018114-00018314 brass all the heart was wide open and VFAAePIJ3Pc-00068-00018315-00018491 it's Fleet Week this is getting good VFAAePIJ3Pc-00069-00018492-00019544 boys you throw that we are no longer VFAAePIJ3Pc-00070-00019545-00019988 code dad's you got a pump fake that VFAAePIJ3Pc-00071-00019989-00020132 thing all night you're gonna take a shot VFAAePIJ3Pc-00072-00020133-00020375 Brad huh he's never played sports ever VFAAePIJ3Pc-00073-00020376-00020713 what what maybe it's stuck to his hand VFAAePIJ3Pc-00074-00020714-00020868 [Applause] VFAAePIJ3Pc-00075-00020869-00021421 [Music] VFAAePIJ3Pc-00076-00021422-00021730 look for Mark Wahlberg and Will Ferrell VFAAePIJ3Pc-00077-00021731-00021953 in daddy's home - in your real time VFAAePIJ3Pc-00078-00021954-00022132 theater VFAAePIJ3Pc-00079-00022133-00022682 [Music] VJwS-KSF0QU-00000-00000497-00000791 on monday morning at RSA i'll be getting VJwS-KSF0QU-00001-00000792-00000952 together with a number of security VJwS-KSF0QU-00002-00000953-00001139 industry leaders to discuss the VJwS-KSF0QU-00003-00001140-00001358 cybersecurity skills gap one of the VJwS-KSF0QU-00004-00001359-00001589 things we've been discussing is whether VJwS-KSF0QU-00005-00001590-00001766 you should look for purely technical VJwS-KSF0QU-00006-00001767-00001922 skills or whether you should look for VJwS-KSF0QU-00007-00001923-00002222 kind of soft skills like problem-solving VJwS-KSF0QU-00008-00002223-00002492 abilities or the ability to analyze VJwS-KSF0QU-00009-00002493-00002720 difficult problems in a maybe VJwS-KSF0QU-00010-00002721-00002921 non-conventional way you know so looking VJwS-KSF0QU-00011-00002922-00003164 for things that are less about VJwS-KSF0QU-00012-00003165-00003361 experience and more about innate VJwS-KSF0QU-00013-00003362-00003575 capabilities we've also 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Bang comics have recreated a lot of VLUjYbfgato-00079-00020148-00020400 Golden Age comics using Nazi characters VLUjYbfgato-00080-00020401-00020637 for villains ranging from Nazi spies to VLUjYbfgato-00081-00020638-00020967 saboteurs the all-star squadron of DC VLUjYbfgato-00082-00020968-00021192 Comics was another retro comic produced VLUjYbfgato-00083-00021193-00021422 in the style of world war ii propaganda VLUjYbfgato-00084-00021423-00021747 comics a tactic also used in the amalgam VLUjYbfgato-00085-00021748-00022080 comics run with Super Soldier by the VLUjYbfgato-00086-00022081-00022299 beginning of the Silver Age of comics in VLUjYbfgato-00087-00022300-00022578 the 1960s the focus of the Nazi threat VLUjYbfgato-00088-00022579-00022772 turned to the threat of communism with VLUjYbfgato-00089-00022773-00022997 the rise of the Cold War in the VLUjYbfgato-00090-00022998-00023232 flashpoint event Nazis are occupying VLUjYbfgato-00091-00023233-00023399 Brazil 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in Argentina in 1967 man's epic VLUjYbfgato-00134-00036508-00036695 featured a similar style with the first VLUjYbfgato-00135-00036696-00037086 issue in September 1963 the magazine VLUjYbfgato-00136-00037087-00037392 published a similar cover in April 1964 VLUjYbfgato-00137-00037393-00037845 in June 1964 they published captive VLUjYbfgato-00138-00037846-00038148 beauties for the monster Baron loves VLUjYbfgato-00139-00038149-00038477 slaves of France his harlot army is an VLUjYbfgato-00140-00038478-00038676 article that appeared in man's epic in VLUjYbfgato-00141-00038677-00039060 August 1964 the magazine published the VLUjYbfgato-00142-00039061-00039317 article secret horrors of the Nazi VLUjYbfgato-00143-00039318-00039807 torture cult in October 1964 men's epic VLUjYbfgato-00144-00039808-00040027 featured a similar article in December VLUjYbfgato-00145-00040028-00040485 1964 in February 1965 they published an VLUjYbfgato-00146-00040486-00040755 article tortured beauties for the Nazi VLUjYbfgato-00147-00040756-00041043 blood cult man's epic publishes the VLUjYbfgato-00148-00041044-00041327 article soft bodies for Hitler's torture VLUjYbfgato-00149-00041328-00041742 master in April 1965 and continued the VLUjYbfgato-00150-00041743-00042120 story for June 1965 nude beauties for VLUjYbfgato-00151-00042121-00042399 the devil's chains appeared in the issue VLUjYbfgato-00152-00042400-00042789 for August 1965 man's epic features VLUjYbfgato-00153-00042790-00043087 chained nudes for the monsters rack in VLUjYbfgato-00154-00043088-00043530 October 1965 they followed with trapped VLUjYbfgato-00155-00043531-00043943 in the fires of lust in February 1966 VLUjYbfgato-00156-00043944-00044235 man's epic publishes a similar cover in VLUjYbfgato-00157-00044236-00044771 April 1966 in May 1966 they published VLUjYbfgato-00158-00044772-00045030 shackled nudes of the monster general VLUjYbfgato-00159-00045031-00045368 man's epic publishers screamed for my 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underground VLUjYbfgato-00174-00050288-00050660 organization they published hot LED for VLUjYbfgato-00175-00050661-00050939 the Nazis Maidan butchering monster in VLUjYbfgato-00176-00050940-00051473 March 1969 in July 1969 man's epic VLUjYbfgato-00177-00051474-00051749 published mission impossible smash the VLUjYbfgato-00178-00051750-00052129 Nazis female tortious Dalek in September VLUjYbfgato-00179-00052129-00052532 1969 they published tonight we hit the VLUjYbfgato-00180-00052533-00052661 Krauts hell plant VLUjYbfgato-00181-00052662-00053072 quote in January 1970 man's epic VLUjYbfgato-00182-00053073-00053380 published operation blood get Hitler's VLUjYbfgato-00183-00053382-00053644 maiden butchering sadist man's epic VLUjYbfgato-00184-00053645-00053857 published Americana VLUjYbfgato-00185-00053858-00054044 what's your Marquis maiden died horribly VLUjYbfgato-00186-00054045-00054541 in March 1970 in April 1971 they VLUjYbfgato-00187-00054542-00054766 magazine published the terror 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VLUjYbfgato-00215-00064090-00064335 ammunition but also to come across Aryan VLUjYbfgato-00216-00064336-00064586 Nazi guards and violent German Shepherds VLUjYbfgato-00217-00064587-00064817 the game was considered a financial VLUjYbfgato-00218-00064819-00065049 success gathered Awards and is VLUjYbfgato-00219-00065050-00065220 remembered as the first shooter game VLUjYbfgato-00220-00065221-00065563 with rudimentary visual effects VLUjYbfgato-00221-00065564-00065932 you VLUjYbfgato-00222-00065933-00066584 topic list of fictitious Nazis VLUjYbfgato-00223-00066585-00066905 arnold toht a psychotic Gestapo agent in VLUjYbfgato-00224-00066906-00067223 Raiders of the Lost Ark or a gold finger VLUjYbfgato-00225-00067224-00067580 from Goldfinger Carl Marcin from night VLUjYbfgato-00226-00067581-00067993 train to Munich quiff Smith from manhunt VLUjYbfgato-00227-00067994-00068359 major Heinrich Strasser from Casablanca VLUjYbfgato-00228-00068360-00068759 Franz Kindler from the stranger Karl 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sander VLUjYbfgato-00284-00085116-00085337 is one of two main characters in Stephen VLUjYbfgato-00285-00085338-00085535 King's novella apt pupil under the VLUjYbfgato-00286-00085536-00085754 section summer of Corruption part of the VLUjYbfgato-00287-00085755-00086120 collection different seasons hands Volta VLUjYbfgato-00288-00086121-00086474 the antagonist of Killing Floor 2 rudol VLUjYbfgato-00289-00086475-00086744 von stroheim a Nazi officer from JoJo's VLUjYbfgato-00290-00086745-00086966 Bizarre Adventure battle tendency who VLUjYbfgato-00291-00086967-00087164 helps the ripple users defeat the pillar VLUjYbfgato-00292-00087165-00087343 men VLUjYbfgato-00293-00087344-00087710 you VLUjYbfgato-00294-00087711-00088251 topic see also VLUjYbfgato-00295-00088252-00088632 Nazi exploitation Adolphe Hitler in VLUjYbfgato-00296-00088633-00088962 popular culture fiction based on World VLUjYbfgato-00297-00088963-00089220 War two VLVm10NWXW8-00000-00000000-00000257 okay folks I'm Geoffrey Fox this is the VLVm10NWXW8-00001-00000258-00000526 space and energy unit and it's the VLVm10NWXW8-00002-00000527-00000788 lesson on energy and this is part of the VLVm10NWXW8-00003-00000789-00001478 AI first engineering curriculum there's VLVm10NWXW8-00004-00001479-00001796 a space which is staggering in my VLVm10NWXW8-00005-00001797-00002114 opinion I am just so astonished to see VLVm10NWXW8-00006-00002115-00002546 how impressive the industry contribution VLVm10NWXW8-00007-00002547-00002879 to spaces I I spent a lot of my life in VLVm10NWXW8-00008-00002880-00003127 Pasadena California next to Jet VLVm10NWXW8-00009-00003128-00003338 Propulsion lab which is a either VLVm10NWXW8-00010-00003339-00003622 successful and that's a lab but if I VLVm10NWXW8-00011-00003623-00003904 look at the operation of and then I was VLVm10NWXW8-00012-00003905-00004231 my view of commercial space was VLVm10NWXW8-00013-00004232-00004684 companies like Boeing and then SAIC and VLVm10NWXW8-00014-00004685-00004925 ones which really were not very VLVm10NWXW8-00015-00004926-00005263 impressive very bureaucratic but the new VLVm10NWXW8-00016-00005264-00005536 companies in space is so energetic and VLVm10NWXW8-00017-00005537-00005861 exciting and their entrepreneurial is VLVm10NWXW8-00018-00005862-00006219 just an incredible change VLVm10NWXW8-00019-00006220-00006852 I should say the what a bureaucratic VLVm10NWXW8-00020-00006853-00007092 attitude the previous space companies VLVm10NWXW8-00021-00007093-00007395 isn't necessarily the the fault of the VLVm10NWXW8-00022-00007395-00007584 companies they was probably the fault of VLVm10NWXW8-00023-00007584-00007815 the government family because they VLVm10NWXW8-00024-00007816-00007989 really didn't separate themselves from VLVm10NWXW8-00025-00007990-00008235 government they didn't have private VLVm10NWXW8-00026-00008236-00008505 investments directly in them all right VLVm10NWXW8-00027-00008506-00008682 so here you have two slides once VLVm10NWXW8-00028-00008683-00008964 airspace supporting AI the next will VLVm10NWXW8-00029-00008965-00009432 have AI supporting space and AI can VLVm10NWXW8-00030-00009433-00009777 actually be be helped by space and the VLVm10NWXW8-00031-00009778-00010113 global navigation because you can have VLVm10NWXW8-00032-00010114-00010431 the global navigation satellite systems VLVm10NWXW8-00033-00010432-00010662 which tell people where you are those VLVm10NWXW8-00034-00010663-00010905 clearly are very important for AI VLVm10NWXW8-00035-00010906-00011118 applications and mapping and things VLVm10NWXW8-00036-00011119-00011388 there are also important in logistics VLVm10NWXW8-00037-00011389-00011634 because you can use the geospatial VLVm10NWXW8-00038-00011635-00011907 location of everything you do a much VLVm10NWXW8-00039-00011908-00012255 better job of delivering there is an VLVm10NWXW8-00040-00012256-00012680 area which is earth observation which VLVm10NWXW8-00041-00012681-00012930 constellations the satellites looking VLVm10NWXW8-00042-00012931-00013512 down capturing images and clearly know VLVm10NWXW8-00043-00013513-00013761 that that observation can be optimized VLVm10NWXW8-00044-00013762-00014369 and and images themselves a hugely VLVm10NWXW8-00045-00014370-00014630 valuable concern as well as some other VLVm10NWXW8-00046-00014631-00014877 obvious military cases they have the mud VLVm10NWXW8-00047-00014878-00015243 disaster applications identification and VLVm10NWXW8-00048-00015244-00015546 deforestation and things like that ice VLVm10NWXW8-00049-00015547-00015809 sheets we use them to further science VLVm10NWXW8-00050-00015810-00016143 and of course the satellites enable VLVm10NWXW8-00051-00016144-00016532 communication which is collects the data VLVm10NWXW8-00052-00016533-00016938 from edge devices and sends them off to VLVm10NWXW8-00053-00016939-00017232 the child for training okay here we have VLVm10NWXW8-00054-00017233-00017796 an AI supporting space and we this VLVm10NWXW8-00055-00017797-00018080 article identify for is manufacturing VLVm10NWXW8-00056-00018081-00018363 remember modern manufacturing or digital VLVm10NWXW8-00057-00018364-00018594 manufacturing has smart machines or the VLVm10NWXW8-00058-00018595-00018839 mature a I controlled VLVm10NWXW8-00059-00018840-00019178 and space can't survive without KY VLVm10NWXW8-00060-00019179-00019399 quality manufacturing satellites Rockets VLVm10NWXW8-00061-00019400-00019800 are all manufacturing intensive imaging VLVm10NWXW8-00062-00019801-00020214 hey I can choose the best images to take VLVm10NWXW8-00063-00020215-00020774 and AI as we discussed is rewarded by VLVm10NWXW8-00064-00020775-00020966 the juicing things from the image in the VLVm10NWXW8-00065-00020967-00021464 previous slide telemetry and control AI VLVm10NWXW8-00066-00021465-00021749 as he used a mild telemetry is all the VLVm10NWXW8-00067-00021750-00022046 material things sent back from the space VLVm10NWXW8-00068-00022047-00022364 and you can both monitor that telemetry VLVm10NWXW8-00069-00022365-00022828 and send feedback back to to optimize VLVm10NWXW8-00070-00022829-00023314 the activities on the satellites SpaceX VLVm10NWXW8-00071-00023315-00023489 this one very well known commercial VLVm10NWXW8-00072-00023490-00023809 company has implemented satellite VLVm10NWXW8-00073-00023810-00024164 collision by AI and you can also do all VLVm10NWXW8-00074-00024165-00024467 sorts of other things to optimize the VLVm10NWXW8-00075-00024468-00024653 switching on of rockets and switching VLVm10NWXW8-00076-00024654-00024977 off of rockets and generally avoiding VLVm10NWXW8-00077-00024978-00025268 collisions and everything I was talking VLVm10NWXW8-00078-00025269-00025478 more subtle of one is dynamic spectrum VLVm10NWXW8-00079-00025479-00025808 use the satellite and actually learn to VLVm10NWXW8-00080-00025808-00026143 transmit using the most appropriate VLVm10NWXW8-00081-00026144-00026429 frequencies for interference some power VLVm10NWXW8-00082-00026430-00026571 and everything like that VLVm10NWXW8-00083-00026572-00027077 that's a deep learning application right VLVm10NWXW8-00084-00027077-00027562 here is interesting news released in VLVm10NWXW8-00085-00027563-00028223 2011 that was nine years ago was exactly VLVm10NWXW8-00086-00028224-00028532 and there's refers back to a little are VLVm10NWXW8-00087-00028533-00028817 to go few months before and it's VLVm10NWXW8-00088-00028818-00029255 basically saying wow if we made rockets VLVm10NWXW8-00089-00029256-00029585 like self-driving cars the Rockets could VLVm10NWXW8-00090-00029586-00029718 do even better VLVm10NWXW8-00091-00029719-00030170 so launch vehicles were they I hear is VLVm10NWXW8-00092-00030170-00030431 this series of rockets his number VLVm10NWXW8-00093-00030432-00031096 version number for epsilon 4 and it was VLVm10NWXW8-00094-00031097-00031318 recently launched and it had actually 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VPcW8m8Haag-00030-00009472-00009799 it's a secret society all we ask is VPcW8m8Haag-00031-00009800-00010019 trust VPcW8m8Haag-00032-00010020-00010214 [Music] VPcW8m8Haag-00033-00010215-00010542 there is tremendous energy and creative VPcW8m8Haag-00034-00010543-00010863 upheaval surrounding the hopping hot VPcW8m8Haag-00035-00010864-00011231 sauce pepper show at this time VPcW8m8Haag-00036-00011232-00011719 and there has been for some time really VPcW8m8Haag-00037-00011720-00011967 thank you for tuning in to the pepper VPcW8m8Haag-00038-00011968-00012183 show VPcW8m8Haag-00039-00012184-00012490 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00000-00000328-00000559 now we want to hear from the VRVxxagGeQE-00001-00000560-00000759 from the practitioners right from the VRVxxagGeQE-00002-00000760-00001031 government if if what we are doing or VRVxxagGeQE-00003-00001032-00001254 what we are we try to develop uh are VRVxxagGeQE-00004-00001255-00001679 making sense so um now we have uh babudi VRVxxagGeQE-00005-00001680-00002126 um in the room and ibu yoshi katarina VRVxxagGeQE-00006-00002127-00002247 and also VRVxxagGeQE-00007-00002248-00002583 franciscus harum VRVxxagGeQE-00008-00002584-00002710 if you VRVxxagGeQE-00009-00002711-00002950 if the three of you can turn on your VRVxxagGeQE-00010-00002951-00003335 video and then i will we will give each VRVxxagGeQE-00011-00003336-00003599 of the panelists seven minutes to VRVxxagGeQE-00012-00003600-00003727 present VRVxxagGeQE-00013-00003728-00003806 and VRVxxagGeQE-00014-00003807-00003927 um VRVxxagGeQE-00015-00003928-00004183 that's baboody if you're ready VRVxxagGeQE-00016-00004184-00004567 i think we can start with your uh VRVxxagGeQE-00017-00004568-00004719 your talking points VRVxxagGeQE-00018-00004720-00005415 go ahead yeah VRVxxagGeQE-00019-00005416-00006136 thank you anna and good afternoon VRVxxagGeQE-00020-00006137-00006614 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00021-00006615-00006839 but perhaps i'm going to VRVxxagGeQE-00022-00006840-00006951 skip some VRVxxagGeQE-00023-00006952-00007083 parts for VRVxxagGeQE-00024-00007084-00007406 them in the interest of our time now can VRVxxagGeQE-00025-00007408-00007719 you see my presentation yes VRVxxagGeQE-00026-00007720-00007919 thank you so VRVxxagGeQE-00027-00007920-00008223 i'm not going to repeat the background VRVxxagGeQE-00028-00008224-00008455 segment of my presentation since we've VRVxxagGeQE-00029-00008456-00008727 discussed that in earlier sessions so VRVxxagGeQE-00030-00008728-00008903 what i would like to focus on in this VRVxxagGeQE-00031-00008904-00009110 presentation is the challenges for our VRVxxagGeQE-00032-00009111-00009278 way forward VRVxxagGeQE-00033-00009279-00009527 the work of a c4 team VRVxxagGeQE-00034-00009528-00009727 the question that you have is whether VRVxxagGeQE-00035-00009728-00009942 you can verify the ci that you have VRVxxagGeQE-00036-00009943-00010110 developed and verified that 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VRVxxagGeQE-00070-00017816-00018103 under article six of paris agreement and VRVxxagGeQE-00071-00018104-00018319 the unfccc VRVxxagGeQE-00072-00018320-00018750 the requirement is that for VRVxxagGeQE-00073-00018751-00018958 ndc's achievement there should be VRVxxagGeQE-00074-00018959-00019183 international transfer of mitigation VRVxxagGeQE-00075-00019184-00019294 options VRVxxagGeQE-00076-00019295-00019527 think we need to VRVxxagGeQE-00077-00019528-00019614 then VRVxxagGeQE-00078-00019615-00020039 ensure robust and global standard cni so VRVxxagGeQE-00079-00020040-00020311 that the calculations or measurements VRVxxagGeQE-00080-00020312-00020511 that we do in VRVxxagGeQE-00081-00020512-00020830 evaluating emissions reduction is VRVxxagGeQE-00082-00020831-00021055 accurate is clear and transferable at VRVxxagGeQE-00083-00021056-00021319 the international level we've also heard VRVxxagGeQE-00084-00021320-00021494 from ibu mirna VRVxxagGeQE-00085-00021495-00021703 that brgm is VRVxxagGeQE-00086-00021704-00021975 developing this phu model VRVxxagGeQE-00087-00021976-00022175 and there are also questions about the VRVxxagGeQE-00088-00022176-00022503 institutional model of phu perhaps not a VRVxxagGeQE-00089-00022504-00022791 formal one we can also consider VRVxxagGeQE-00090-00022792-00023135 other models for example forum based and VRVxxagGeQE-00091-00023136-00023311 we also heard from ibumarna about VRVxxagGeQE-00092-00023312-00023478 consolidation VRVxxagGeQE-00093-00023479-00023839 in one ph.u VRVxxagGeQE-00094-00023840-00024158 and so we are seeing more challenges for VRVxxagGeQE-00095-00024159-00024535 cni because each phu is unique VRVxxagGeQE-00096-00024536-00024750 also with different land use and the VRVxxagGeQE-00097-00024751-00025022 stakeholders that have access and rights VRVxxagGeQE-00098-00025023-00025167 to a phu VRVxxagGeQE-00099-00025168-00025422 are varying and so their roles and VRVxxagGeQE-00100-00025423-00025702 responsibilities are also different VRVxxagGeQE-00101-00025704-00025958 so this phu VRVxxagGeQE-00102-00025960-00026102 model VRVxxagGeQE-00103-00026104-00026399 has been VRVxxagGeQE-00104-00026400-00026687 developed or articulated in the brgm VRVxxagGeQE-00105-00026688-00027014 strategic plan until 2024 VRVxxagGeQE-00106-00027016-00027214 so the model will be developed VRVxxagGeQE-00107-00027216-00027567 implemented and monitored until 2024 VRVxxagGeQE-00108-00027568-00027662 we hope VRVxxagGeQE-00109-00027663-00027902 of course this model can continue VRVxxagGeQE-00110-00027904-00028199 because part of the brgm's work going VRVxxagGeQE-00111-00028200-00028423 forward it's not only VRVxxagGeQE-00112-00028424-00028527 project VRVxxagGeQE-00113-00028527-00028831 implementation but also to engage other VRVxxagGeQE-00114-00028832-00029062 stakeholders especially for the purpose VRVxxagGeQE-00115-00029063-00029207 of funding VRVxxagGeQE-00116-00029208-00029431 activity sustainability VRVxxagGeQE-00117-00029432-00029790 and we want to transfer that in one VRVxxagGeQE-00118-00029791-00029895 complete VRVxxagGeQE-00119-00029895-00030031 phu VRVxxagGeQE-00120-00030032-00030367 where we can have both pragmatic and VRVxxagGeQE-00121-00030368-00030583 scientific approaches in a sustainable VRVxxagGeQE-00122-00030583-00031014 and long-term manner VRVxxagGeQE-00123-00031016-00031374 next is the practical use we know that VRVxxagGeQE-00124-00031375-00031495 there are VRVxxagGeQE-00125-00031495-00031662 tools VRVxxagGeQE-00126-00031663-00031870 of information that we can or VRVxxagGeQE-00127-00031872-00032062 information that we can get from remote VRVxxagGeQE-00128-00032063-00032239 sensing technology VRVxxagGeQE-00129-00032239-00032558 but we've heard that field measurement VRVxxagGeQE-00130-00032560-00032831 is very important and primary data are VRVxxagGeQE-00131-00032832-00033015 important as well and there have been VRVxxagGeQE-00132-00033016-00033367 approaches developed since the VRVxxagGeQE-00133-00033368-00033559 brg VRVxxagGeQE-00134-00033560-00033855 we work we have been working with fao to VRVxxagGeQE-00135-00033856-00034167 use their system to measure for example VRVxxagGeQE-00136-00034168-00034374 moisture level VRVxxagGeQE-00137-00034375-00034574 the moisture level that we gain from VRVxxagGeQE-00138-00034575-00034951 remote sensing can be verified by VRVxxagGeQE-00139-00034952-00035318 sipalag station so we have sipalagadi VRVxxagGeQE-00140-00035319-00035527 information system to measure VRVxxagGeQE-00141-00035528-00035846 water content of peat that can VRVxxagGeQE-00142-00035847-00036183 measure the level of a water table in VRVxxagGeQE-00143-00036184-00036543 peatlands and to also measure rainfall VRVxxagGeQE-00144-00036544-00036711 so VRVxxagGeQE-00145-00036712-00036823 what we VRVxxagGeQE-00146-00036824-00037118 see or visualized in spatial data can be VRVxxagGeQE-00147-00037119-00037246 verified VRVxxagGeQE-00148-00037247-00037359 with VRVxxagGeQE-00149-00037360-00037615 measurement data generated by this tool VRVxxagGeQE-00150-00037616-00037846 and this tool is automated and so the VRVxxagGeQE-00151-00037847-00037967 information VRVxxagGeQE-00152-00037968-00038102 can be VRVxxagGeQE-00153-00038103-00038383 accessed or can be seen in the peatland VRVxxagGeQE-00154-00038384-00038574 restoration and information system or VRVxxagGeQE-00155-00038575-00038695 prims VRVxxagGeQE-00156-00038696-00038943 there's a website page for prims and you VRVxxagGeQE-00157-00038944-00039311 can also see the activities of brgm VRVxxagGeQE-00158-00039312-00039471 who's doing what VRVxxagGeQE-00159-00039472-00039959 when the an activity starts as well as VRVxxagGeQE-00160-00039960-00040151 information of VRVxxagGeQE-00161-00040152-00040479 before and after of an intervention and VRVxxagGeQE-00162-00040480-00040671 we can see whether there's an increase VRVxxagGeQE-00163-00040672-00040887 in moisture VRVxxagGeQE-00164-00040888-00041087 for example that we can measure using VRVxxagGeQE-00165-00041088-00041302 these tools as well as remote sensing VRVxxagGeQE-00166-00041303-00041479 technology VRVxxagGeQE-00167-00041480-00041767 and in going forward capacity building VRVxxagGeQE-00168-00041768-00041983 and institutional support VRVxxagGeQE-00169-00041984-00042239 are important because VRVxxagGeQE-00170-00042240-00042439 we've heard about tier one who's going VRVxxagGeQE-00171-00042440-00042790 to do tier one or who is capable to VRVxxagGeQE-00172-00042791-00043102 implement tier two um verifiers but it's VRVxxagGeQE-00173-00043103-00043302 also very important to make sure that VRVxxagGeQE-00174-00043303-00043551 the local community can also access this VRVxxagGeQE-00175-00043552-00043799 information VRVxxagGeQE-00176-00043800-00043935 especially VRVxxagGeQE-00177-00043936-00044151 in periods where VRVxxagGeQE-00178-00044152-00044358 it's more prone to VRVxxagGeQE-00179-00044359-00044671 beat fire VRVxxagGeQE-00180-00044672-00044839 so the key message is VRVxxagGeQE-00181-00044840-00045079 the science of restoration is growing VRVxxagGeQE-00182-00045080-00045415 and including the sophistication of cni VRVxxagGeQE-00183-00045416-00045735 the practical use of cni that can VRVxxagGeQE-00184-00045736-00045887 address the VRVxxagGeQE-00185-00045888-00046167 needs as well as the different um level VRVxxagGeQE-00186-00046168-00046471 knowledge of the communities are very VRVxxagGeQE-00187-00046472-00046702 important to consider as well VRVxxagGeQE-00188-00046703-00046871 perhaps to VRVxxagGeQE-00189-00046872-00047079 respond to harry's point about the VRVxxagGeQE-00190-00047080-00047287 nesting approach i think it's something VRVxxagGeQE-00191-00047288-00048518 that we it's a good idea to consider VRVxxagGeQE-00192-00048519-00048902 or how we can manage cni VRVxxagGeQE-00193-00048903-00049215 that will need VRVxxagGeQE-00194-00049216-00049390 more development VRVxxagGeQE-00195-00049391-00049630 focusing on capacity building focusing VRVxxagGeQE-00196-00049631-00050007 on the tools or the methodology or VRVxxagGeQE-00197-00050008-00050151 process to VRVxxagGeQE-00198-00050152-00050471 assess the indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00199-00050472-00051095 and data that we can use as verifiers VRVxxagGeQE-00200-00051096-00051390 and also going forward we need to have VRVxxagGeQE-00201-00051391-00051623 robust and globally accepted cni for VRVxxagGeQE-00202-00051624-00051879 high quality offset to ndc commitment VRVxxagGeQE-00203-00051879-00052126 we've also heard about funding can it VRVxxagGeQE-00204-00052127-00052335 can be a challenge VRVxxagGeQE-00205-00052336-00052566 so it's the question is VRVxxagGeQE-00206-00052567-00052719 can beat VRVxxagGeQE-00207-00052720-00052982 restoration get funding from carbon VRVxxagGeQE-00208-00052983-00053142 offset VRVxxagGeQE-00209-00053144-00053311 but of course VRVxxagGeQE-00210-00053312-00053494 to determine carbon offset we need VRVxxagGeQE-00211-00053495-00053823 accurate and robust information and also VRVxxagGeQE-00212-00053824-00054054 globally accepted VRVxxagGeQE-00213-00054055-00054471 and for the purpose of global or carbon VRVxxagGeQE-00214-00054472-00054591 transfer VRVxxagGeQE-00215-00054591-00054854 in indonesia and globally VRVxxagGeQE-00216-00054855-00055087 so global recognition is very important VRVxxagGeQE-00217-00055088-00055294 and VRVxxagGeQE-00218-00055295-00055607 we are thankful that this webinar also VRVxxagGeQE-00219-00055608-00055711 has VRVxxagGeQE-00220-00055712-00055871 global participants or international VRVxxagGeQE-00221-00055872-00055999 participants VRVxxagGeQE-00222-00056000-00056207 this kind of information exchange VRVxxagGeQE-00223-00056208-00056615 platform is very important VRVxxagGeQE-00224-00056616-00056991 so that the work of scientists can VRVxxagGeQE-00225-00056991-00057150 be VRVxxagGeQE-00226-00057151-00057494 included in negotiations VRVxxagGeQE-00227-00057495-00057838 and decision making processes VRVxxagGeQE-00228-00057839-00058135 and we've also heard from VRVxxagGeQE-00229-00058136-00058335 some of the questions as well as our VRVxxagGeQE-00230-00058336-00058511 previous panelists VRVxxagGeQE-00231-00058512-00058766 comments about flexibility reliability VRVxxagGeQE-00232-00058767-00059023 and attain availability attainability VRVxxagGeQE-00233-00059024-00059166 flexibility VRVxxagGeQE-00234-00059167-00059494 doesn't mean we compromise robustness VRVxxagGeQE-00235-00059495-00059830 and at the same time reliability also VRVxxagGeQE-00236-00059832-00059982 needs to VRVxxagGeQE-00237-00059983-00060079 meet VRVxxagGeQE-00238-00060079-00060271 global standard VRVxxagGeQE-00239-00060272-00060487 can be verified and VRVxxagGeQE-00240-00060488-00060782 obtainability means information can be VRVxxagGeQE-00241-00060783-00061191 attained implemented and can be easily VRVxxagGeQE-00242-00061191-00061342 used or VRVxxagGeQE-00243-00061344-00061535 in decision making VRVxxagGeQE-00244-00061536-00061791 mechanisms and the last key message is VRVxxagGeQE-00245-00061791-00061950 that continuous consultation between VRVxxagGeQE-00246-00061951-00062247 practitioners and researchers are vital VRVxxagGeQE-00247-00062248-00062511 to response to growing needs of ci thank VRVxxagGeQE-00248-00062512-00062726 you anna VRVxxagGeQE-00249-00062727-00062975 thank you buddy thank you for being VRVxxagGeQE-00250-00062976-00063294 on time seven minutes and the message is VRVxxagGeQE-00251-00063295-00063382 i think VRVxxagGeQE-00252-00063383-00063623 we need to be flexible but without VRVxxagGeQE-00253-00063624-00063847 compromising robustness that's a VRVxxagGeQE-00254-00063848-00064038 challenge but it's something that we VRVxxagGeQE-00255-00064039-00064294 have to think about going forward VRVxxagGeQE-00256-00064295-00064647 and the next uh speaker next panelist is VRVxxagGeQE-00257-00064648-00065215 ibu yoshi katarina VRVxxagGeQE-00258-00065216-00065287 hi VRVxxagGeQE-00259-00065288-00065543 thank you VRVxxagGeQE-00260-00065544-00065806 so following on the footsteps of budi VRVxxagGeQE-00261-00065807-00066038 i'm also going to deliver my VRVxxagGeQE-00262-00066039-00066287 contribution in bahasa indonesia VRVxxagGeQE-00263-00066288-00066535 so as ibu anna VRVxxagGeQE-00264-00066536-00066687 mentioned VRVxxagGeQE-00265-00066688-00066879 that VRVxxagGeQE-00266-00066880-00067175 we have potential VRVxxagGeQE-00267-00067176-00067350 users and you want you want to get input VRVxxagGeQE-00268-00067351-00067550 from potential users i want to make VRVxxagGeQE-00269-00067551-00067767 clear that i'm not from the government VRVxxagGeQE-00270-00067768-00067911 i'm in the VRVxxagGeQE-00271-00067912-00068167 usa id i'm the environmental governance VRVxxagGeQE-00272-00068168-00068487 lead in the usaid cigar project so we're VRVxxagGeQE-00273-00068488-00068735 helping bobanas the national development VRVxxagGeQE-00274-00068736-00068999 agency of indonesia to create or to VRVxxagGeQE-00275-00069000-00069543 develop a set subset of indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00276-00069544-00069711 and henry VRVxxagGeQE-00277-00069712-00069959 previously talked about scale VRVxxagGeQE-00278-00069960-00070182 and we this our skill is to measure the VRVxxagGeQE-00279-00070183-00070335 performance of VRVxxagGeQE-00280-00070336-00070599 regency or kabu patent VRVxxagGeQE-00281-00070600-00070735 in their VRVxxagGeQE-00282-00070736-00071015 sustainable plantation communities VRVxxagGeQE-00283-00071016-00071263 i think to a certain extent VRVxxagGeQE-00284-00071264-00071455 i see some relevant VRVxxagGeQE-00285-00071456-00071711 experiences that i can share in this VRVxxagGeQE-00286-00071712-00071838 platform VRVxxagGeQE-00287-00071839-00072143 that can contribute to VRVxxagGeQE-00288-00072144-00072335 improving this or enriching this VRVxxagGeQE-00289-00072336-00072463 discussion VRVxxagGeQE-00290-00072464-00072687 the VRVxxagGeQE-00291-00072688-00072887 topic i know is the VRVxxagGeQE-00292-00072888-00073279 utilization of ci i did not prepare a VRVxxagGeQE-00293-00073280-00073519 special presentation because about VRVxxagGeQE-00294-00073520-00073750 daniel confirmed that i didn't need to VRVxxagGeQE-00295-00073751-00074015 but i think that i can show you this one VRVxxagGeQE-00296-00074016-00074326 slide from babanas that i feel can be VRVxxagGeQE-00297-00074327-00074535 available to give you VRVxxagGeQE-00298-00074536-00074759 an overview VRVxxagGeQE-00299-00074760-00074867 of VRVxxagGeQE-00300-00074868-00075215 institutionalization for triparchaya VRVxxagGeQE-00301-00075216-00075519 project so trapachaya has gone through VRVxxagGeQE-00302-00075520-00075687 all of the phases VRVxxagGeQE-00303-00075688-00075959 that brgm and c4 VRVxxagGeQE-00304-00075960-00076126 are going through so VRVxxagGeQE-00305-00076127-00076543 we have done the trial and 2021 VRVxxagGeQE-00306-00076544-00076623 we VRVxxagGeQE-00307-00076624-00076806 went through our third phase we VRVxxagGeQE-00308-00076807-00077079 developed relevant policies we also VRVxxagGeQE-00309-00077080-00077262 developed the market instruments we've VRVxxagGeQE-00310-00077263-00077582 heard about this as well in the previous VRVxxagGeQE-00311-00077583-00077831 section and VRVxxagGeQE-00312-00077832-00078062 we also focus on multilateral VRVxxagGeQE-00313-00078063-00078231 cooperation as part of the project to VRVxxagGeQE-00314-00078232-00078487 make sure that our indicators are VRVxxagGeQE-00315-00078488-00079119 adopted in multilateral cooperation VRVxxagGeQE-00316-00079120-00079391 so in this process we VRVxxagGeQE-00317-00079392-00079687 use a theoretical framework VRVxxagGeQE-00318-00079688-00079879 developed by VRVxxagGeQE-00319-00079880-00080126 sinclair and based on the theoretical VRVxxagGeQE-00320-00080127-00080391 framework we see there are three VRVxxagGeQE-00321-00080392-00080638 identify three approaches VRVxxagGeQE-00322-00080639-00081015 to develop a set of regulations VRVxxagGeQE-00323-00081016-00081119 from VRVxxagGeQE-00324-00081120-00081294 we have command and control economic VRVxxagGeQE-00325-00081295-00081511 instruments and VRVxxagGeQE-00326-00081512-00081735 others and others would include VRVxxagGeQE-00327-00081736-00082023 self-regulation VRVxxagGeQE-00328-00082024-00082223 and information strategies VRVxxagGeQE-00329-00082224-00082567 so i want to cover three areas or three VRVxxagGeQE-00330-00082568-00082719 important key takeaways from the VRVxxagGeQE-00331-00082720-00082879 preciata process VRVxxagGeQE-00332-00082880-00083126 one is to select approach or combination VRVxxagGeQE-00333-00083127-00083519 of approaches VRVxxagGeQE-00334-00083520-00084135 that gunningham sinclair developed VRVxxagGeQE-00335-00084136-00084343 and these approaches serve as the VRVxxagGeQE-00336-00084344-00084743 overarching framework VRVxxagGeQE-00337-00084744-00084815 for VRVxxagGeQE-00338-00084816-00085879 the criteria and indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00339-00085880-00086135 to select which is the best approach or VRVxxagGeQE-00340-00086136-00086343 combination of approaches VRVxxagGeQE-00341-00086344-00086511 we know that there are instruments that VRVxxagGeQE-00342-00086512-00086831 can help us reaching our decision for VRVxxagGeQE-00343-00086832-00087087 example dynamic modeling the challenge VRVxxagGeQE-00344-00087088-00087382 is in the context of indonesia VRVxxagGeQE-00345-00087383-00087743 data availability or data quality is not VRVxxagGeQE-00346-00087744-00087975 optimal as we've heard from other VRVxxagGeQE-00347-00087976-00088375 speakers and as a result the modeling or VRVxxagGeQE-00348-00088376-00088599 the outcome of the modeling may not be VRVxxagGeQE-00349-00088600-00088791 very accurate and that's why in the VRVxxagGeQE-00350-00088792-00088950 indonesian context VRVxxagGeQE-00351-00088951-00089159 we use VRVxxagGeQE-00352-00089160-00089343 piloting VRVxxagGeQE-00353-00089344-00089647 as the method that we rely on to test VRVxxagGeQE-00354-00089648-00090191 the policy that we want to develop VRVxxagGeQE-00355-00090192-00090567 so to determine the approach VRVxxagGeQE-00356-00090568-00090871 harry earlier mentioned that there VRVxxagGeQE-00357-00090872-00091118 are key questions VRVxxagGeQE-00358-00091119-00091318 and for me VRVxxagGeQE-00359-00091319-00091606 to be honest i'm still also trying to VRVxxagGeQE-00360-00091607-00091871 grasp this whole process VRVxxagGeQE-00361-00091872-00092126 for example the goal of the indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00362-00092127-00092215 and VRVxxagGeQE-00363-00092216-00092479 who are expected to use the indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00364-00092480-00092726 is this a policy instrument that you VRVxxagGeQE-00365-00092727-00092991 want brgm to use to direct the local VRVxxagGeQE-00366-00092992-00093223 government for example or to VRVxxagGeQE-00367-00093224-00093511 guide villages or is this a VRVxxagGeQE-00368-00093512-00093847 brgm's internal evaluation to VRVxxagGeQE-00369-00093848-00094062 assess the effectiveness of their VRVxxagGeQE-00370-00094063-00094255 interventions VRVxxagGeQE-00371-00094256-00094479 and the next question is who's going to VRVxxagGeQE-00372-00094480-00094655 conduct the evaluation VRVxxagGeQE-00373-00094656-00094799 is it going to be VRVxxagGeQE-00374-00094800-00094991 done based on VRVxxagGeQE-00375-00094992-00095143 fresh or primary VRVxxagGeQE-00376-00095144-00095423 data we've heard about this from ibuana VRVxxagGeQE-00377-00095424-00095679 and team looking for the verifiers or VRVxxagGeQE-00378-00095680-00096047 will the process rely on aggregated data VRVxxagGeQE-00379-00096048-00096167 from VRVxxagGeQE-00380-00096168-00096343 other institutions VRVxxagGeQE-00381-00096344-00096847 and then who will then supply the data VRVxxagGeQE-00382-00096848-00097015 for example at the village level who's VRVxxagGeQE-00383-00097016-00097111 going to VRVxxagGeQE-00384-00097112-00097367 capture a recorded data district level VRVxxagGeQE-00385-00097368-00097518 or VRVxxagGeQE-00386-00097519-00097638 perhaps VRVxxagGeQE-00387-00097639-00097974 directly on the field by teams like VRVxxagGeQE-00388-00097975-00098462 ibu ana's team VRVxxagGeQE-00389-00098463-00098550 and VRVxxagGeQE-00390-00098551-00098943 knowing that local governments are now VRVxxagGeQE-00391-00098944-00099271 flooded by data requests then what we VRVxxagGeQE-00392-00099272-00099559 can do is to use data proxies from VRVxxagGeQE-00393-00099560-00099831 national level government VRVxxagGeQE-00394-00099832-00100047 because local government would also VRVxxagGeQE-00395-00100048-00100287 forward their data to their relevant VRVxxagGeQE-00396-00100288-00100543 line ministries now the policy is then VRVxxagGeQE-00397-00100544-00100782 how can we ensure that the data from VRVxxagGeQE-00398-00100783-00100935 local government transfer to the line VRVxxagGeQE-00399-00100936-00101126 ministries can be VRVxxagGeQE-00400-00101127-00101399 translated and standardized by babanas VRVxxagGeQE-00401-00101400-00101599 and that is why we have the one data VRVxxagGeQE-00402-00101600-00101743 policy VRVxxagGeQE-00403-00101744-00101943 so these are the things that should help VRVxxagGeQE-00404-00101944-00102282 the institute institutionalizing VRVxxagGeQE-00405-00102283-00102575 indicators the other question is who VRVxxagGeQE-00406-00102576-00102878 will be affected by these indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00407-00102879-00103263 in all sense including VRVxxagGeQE-00408-00103264-00103390 the VRVxxagGeQE-00409-00103391-00103830 data collector VRVxxagGeQE-00410-00103831-00103927 or VRVxxagGeQE-00411-00103928-00104118 perhaps we have target VRVxxagGeQE-00412-00104119-00104471 of behavior changes because of the data VRVxxagGeQE-00413-00104472-00104734 collection i think these questions need VRVxxagGeQE-00414-00104735-00104919 to be answered first before we can VRVxxagGeQE-00415-00104920-00105158 determine which approach that we want to VRVxxagGeQE-00416-00105159-00105439 take to institutionalize the indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00417-00105440-00105790 at the policy level we know that as VRVxxagGeQE-00418-00105791-00106199 pahari also mentioned as well as VRVxxagGeQE-00419-00106200-00106527 budi also mentioned this there are three VRVxxagGeQE-00420-00106528-00106775 uh things that are usually considered VRVxxagGeQE-00421-00106776-00106966 primarily by the government in VRVxxagGeQE-00422-00106967-00107158 developing policy regulatory basis the VRVxxagGeQE-00423-00107159-00107399 institutional setup these are VRVxxagGeQE-00424-00107400-00107543 two different things like bahari VRVxxagGeQE-00425-00107544-00107751 mentioned and then the VRVxxagGeQE-00426-00107752-00107975 funding or the budget i believe that VRVxxagGeQE-00427-00107976-00108190 these have elements have been considered VRVxxagGeQE-00428-00108191-00108310 by VRVxxagGeQE-00429-00108311-00108558 the team that will work with prgm in VRVxxagGeQE-00430-00108559-00108671 developing VRVxxagGeQE-00431-00108672-00108878 or institutionalizing these indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00432-00108879-00109054 going forward VRVxxagGeQE-00433-00109055-00109134 and VRVxxagGeQE-00434-00109135-00109271 there are two other VRVxxagGeQE-00435-00109272-00109454 things that are very important in my VRVxxagGeQE-00436-00109455-00109647 learning process one is how do we VRVxxagGeQE-00437-00109648-00109878 communicate this idea to the public so VRVxxagGeQE-00438-00109879-00110071 that the public under can understand VRVxxagGeQE-00439-00110072-00110215 these indicators because we know that VRVxxagGeQE-00440-00110216-00110447 all mesomi indicators out there that are VRVxxagGeQE-00441-00110448-00110607 being implemented by different VRVxxagGeQE-00442-00110608-00110847 institutions with different goals as VRVxxagGeQE-00443-00110848-00111127 well and the second VRVxxagGeQE-00444-00111128-00111463 also very important is we need to have VRVxxagGeQE-00445-00111464-00111951 some kind of task force that is VRVxxagGeQE-00446-00111952-00112127 part perhaps in the policy making in VRVxxagGeQE-00447-00112128-00112375 brgm that can consistently work with VRVxxagGeQE-00448-00112376-00112654 stakeholders VRVxxagGeQE-00449-00112655-00112823 because the first VRVxxagGeQE-00450-00112824-00113158 step it will not be perfect and we may VRVxxagGeQE-00451-00113159-00113495 see many adjustments as we respond to VRVxxagGeQE-00452-00113496-00113783 market situation to regulatory situation VRVxxagGeQE-00453-00113783-00113902 and so on VRVxxagGeQE-00454-00113903-00114302 and that is why we need to have a task VRVxxagGeQE-00455-00114303-00114599 force within brgm that work alongside VRVxxagGeQE-00456-00114600-00114839 stakeholders to continuously refine VRVxxagGeQE-00457-00114840-00115319 these set of ci and so don't expect that VRVxxagGeQE-00458-00115320-00115486 on the get go that you will get VRVxxagGeQE-00459-00115488-00115678 everything perfect especially because we VRVxxagGeQE-00460-00115679-00115910 know the situation in indonesia and the VRVxxagGeQE-00461-00115911-00116223 diversity in indonesia and but if we VRVxxagGeQE-00462-00116224-00116615 have in place a mechanism to capture VRVxxagGeQE-00463-00116616-00116854 ideas or plan VRVxxagGeQE-00464-00116855-00117102 to make sure that the indicators are VRVxxagGeQE-00465-00117103-00117247 consistently VRVxxagGeQE-00466-00117248-00117534 refined i believe that it's a very VRVxxagGeQE-00467-00117535-00117647 important VRVxxagGeQE-00468-00117648-00117966 thing to consider so that's it VRVxxagGeQE-00469-00117967-00118175 hopefully this has been beneficial to VRVxxagGeQE-00470-00118176-00118854 you VRVxxagGeQE-00471-00118855-00119175 we also agree in our team we agree and VRVxxagGeQE-00472-00119176-00119278 we have VRVxxagGeQE-00473-00119279-00119510 started uh questioning on who's going to VRVxxagGeQE-00474-00119511-00119751 use the indicators who's going to do uh VRVxxagGeQE-00475-00119752-00119934 indicator measurement where can we get VRVxxagGeQE-00476-00119935-00120158 the data and so on and i think this uh VRVxxagGeQE-00477-00120159-00120383 confirms what do we need to do in the VRVxxagGeQE-00478-00120383-00120566 going forward so thank you so much VRVxxagGeQE-00479-00120567-00120783 you'll see and ladies and gentlemen if VRVxxagGeQE-00480-00120783-00121054 you have any questions we you can erase VRVxxagGeQE-00481-00121055-00121319 them in the chat box i'm also trying to VRVxxagGeQE-00482-00121320-00121590 monitor our chat box uh conversations VRVxxagGeQE-00483-00121591-00121934 and while we're doing that we also have VRVxxagGeQE-00484-00121935-00122143 the final presentation from VRVxxagGeQE-00485-00122144-00122383 yasin are you there yeah VRVxxagGeQE-00486-00122383-00122607 okay VRVxxagGeQE-00487-00122608-00124495 i hope you can hear my audio thank you VRVxxagGeQE-00488-00124496-00124847 my apology VRVxxagGeQE-00489-00124848-00125327 i just use my colleague laptop VRVxxagGeQE-00490-00125328-00125414 and VRVxxagGeQE-00491-00125415-00125710 i'm not sure how i can share my screen VRVxxagGeQE-00492-00125711-00125999 from my laptop or perhaps you can send VRVxxagGeQE-00493-00126000-00126302 me your file your presentation file VRVxxagGeQE-00494-00126303-00126502 allow me to send you my presentation VRVxxagGeQE-00495-00126503-00127199 file VRVxxagGeQE-00496-00127200-00127454 but you see did you say something VRVxxagGeQE-00497-00127455-00127895 i was about to mention that i had to VRVxxagGeQE-00498-00127896-00128134 join another meeting VRVxxagGeQE-00499-00128135-00128423 so if there is any question VRVxxagGeQE-00500-00128424-00128614 raised to me we can keep in touch thank VRVxxagGeQE-00501-00128615-00128783 you so much for having me thank you very VRVxxagGeQE-00502-00128783-00128878 much VRVxxagGeQE-00503-00128879-00129134 masiyasi VRVxxagGeQE-00504-00129135-00129210 i hope you VRVxxagGeQE-00505-00129211-00129366 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00506-00129367-00129583 you have received my powerpoint VRVxxagGeQE-00507-00129583-00129758 presentation file sorry for the VRVxxagGeQE-00508-00129759-00129934 technical glitch VRVxxagGeQE-00509-00129935-00130254 this is the last presentation VRVxxagGeQE-00510-00130255-00130439 so i will VRVxxagGeQE-00511-00130440-00130671 i might repeat several points that have VRVxxagGeQE-00512-00130672-00131023 been touched upon by previous speakers VRVxxagGeQE-00513-00131024-00131390 of gusty ansari has mentioned about the VRVxxagGeQE-00514-00131391-00131727 indicator of damage to VRVxxagGeQE-00515-00131728-00131966 pit land ecosystem VRVxxagGeQE-00516-00131967-00132199 so we have the criteria VRVxxagGeQE-00517-00132200-00132407 regarding peatland VRVxxagGeQE-00518-00132408-00132631 ecosystem damage there are five criteria VRVxxagGeQE-00519-00132632-00133039 the first one VRVxxagGeQE-00520-00133040-00133194 exposed sediment VRVxxagGeQE-00521-00133195-00133366 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00522-00133367-00133575 reduction of VRVxxagGeQE-00523-00133576-00133871 the area of coverage VRVxxagGeQE-00524-00133872-00134078 and the criteria VRVxxagGeQE-00525-00134079-00134847 in terms of the VRVxxagGeQE-00526-00134848-00134919 we VRVxxagGeQE-00527-00134920-00135151 looking at this criteria we have VRVxxagGeQE-00528-00135152-00135478 formulated what to do so in VRVxxagGeQE-00529-00135479-00135814 brgm we are developing the concept of VRVxxagGeQE-00530-00135815-00136727 three VRVxxagGeQE-00531-00136728-00136871 okay the first VRVxxagGeQE-00532-00136872-00137087 r is three weighting so this three VRVxxagGeQE-00533-00137088-00137359 waiting is conducting VRVxxagGeQE-00534-00137360-00137607 to maintain the water level VRVxxagGeQE-00535-00137608-00137983 in the fitland ecosystem VRVxxagGeQE-00536-00137984-00138175 to maintain the function of the pit land VRVxxagGeQE-00537-00138176-00138351 ecosystem so after building the VRVxxagGeQE-00538-00138352-00138647 infrastructure we also conduct the VRVxxagGeQE-00539-00138648-00138895 operations and maintenance and the VRVxxagGeQE-00540-00138896-00139247 second r is the re-vegetation VRVxxagGeQE-00541-00139248-00139431 the VRVxxagGeQE-00542-00139432-00139583 what we would like to maintain is the VRVxxagGeQE-00543-00139584-00139807 water level in the VRVxxagGeQE-00544-00139808-00140039 fitland ecosystem VRVxxagGeQE-00545-00140040-00140214 so VRVxxagGeQE-00546-00140215-00140414 most of the VRVxxagGeQE-00547-00140415-00140607 peatland VRVxxagGeQE-00548-00140608-00140887 is receiving the source VRVxxagGeQE-00549-00140888-00141007 of VRVxxagGeQE-00550-00141008-00141183 water coming from VRVxxagGeQE-00551-00141184-00141311 the VRVxxagGeQE-00552-00141312-00141399 rain VRVxxagGeQE-00553-00141400-00141751 fall or precipitations of water so VRVxxagGeQE-00554-00141752-00141951 therefore we will maintain the water VRVxxagGeQE-00555-00141952-00142287 from the existing can VRVxxagGeQE-00556-00142288-00142647 canals and the second r is refrigeration VRVxxagGeQE-00557-00142648-00142863 and the last r the third r is VRVxxagGeQE-00558-00142864-00143102 reptilization the revitalization is the VRVxxagGeQE-00559-00143103-00143383 community empowerment it's more on the VRVxxagGeQE-00560-00143384-00143695 economic aspect so we agree VRVxxagGeQE-00561-00143696-00144007 as what has been mentioned by anna meli VRVxxagGeQE-00562-00144008-00144231 and chakim in terms of the criteria of VRVxxagGeQE-00563-00144232-00144463 indicators in addition to biophysical VRVxxagGeQE-00564-00144464-00144735 indicator we also have social economic VRVxxagGeQE-00565-00144736-00145023 and governance aspect the third art in VRVxxagGeQE-00566-00145024-00145199 this case is VRVxxagGeQE-00567-00145200-00145463 more on the social and economy and as VRVxxagGeQE-00568-00145464-00145654 for the governance VRVxxagGeQE-00569-00145655-00145878 we have VRVxxagGeQE-00570-00145879-00145906 um VRVxxagGeQE-00571-00145907-00146047 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00572-00146048-00146302 it land villages VRVxxagGeQE-00573-00146303-00146439 this upper lip VRVxxagGeQE-00574-00146440-00146711 gambot it is on how we can mainstream VRVxxagGeQE-00575-00146712-00146943 mainstream all of the elements VRVxxagGeQE-00576-00146944-00147231 in the utilizations of pitland and VRVxxagGeQE-00577-00147232-00147575 incorporate that into the village VRVxxagGeQE-00578-00147576-00147711 governance VRVxxagGeQE-00579-00147712-00147959 in the village level and also the local VRVxxagGeQE-00580-00147960-00148063 government VRVxxagGeQE-00581-00148064-00148183 level VRVxxagGeQE-00582-00148184-00148423 and as for the monitoring itself VRVxxagGeQE-00583-00148424-00148680 we have heard from babudi that we have VRVxxagGeQE-00584-00148681-00149071 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00585-00149072-00149223 prims here VRVxxagGeQE-00586-00149224-00149611 so you can check that in the VRVxxagGeQE-00587-00149612-00149826 https VRVxxagGeQE-00588-00149827-00150039 prems.brg.id so you will be able to see VRVxxagGeQE-00589-00150040-00150287 the indicators coming from the existing VRVxxagGeQE-00590-00150288-00150751 canals the fire area the VRVxxagGeQE-00591-00150752-00151023 land clearing area so you'll be able to VRVxxagGeQE-00592-00151024-00151335 see those in real time in addition to VRVxxagGeQE-00593-00151336-00151671 prims we also have sipalaga VRVxxagGeQE-00594-00151672-00152007 www.sipalaga.brg.id VRVxxagGeQE-00595-00152008-00152295 so we have sensors here and in the chat VRVxxagGeQE-00596-00152296-00152647 box panoman mr yoman has mentioned also VRVxxagGeQE-00597-00152648-00152926 in addition to the water table we also VRVxxagGeQE-00598-00152927-00153151 need to see the pressure precipitation VRVxxagGeQE-00599-00153152-00153278 level VRVxxagGeQE-00600-00153279-00153423 and VRVxxagGeQE-00601-00153424-00153614 we have homeroom in VRVxxagGeQE-00602-00153615-00153966 peatland and the water table VRVxxagGeQE-00603-00153967-00154190 plays a very important role in relation VRVxxagGeQE-00604-00154191-00154511 to the precipitations or VRVxxagGeQE-00605-00154512-00154790 rainfall so we'll be able to see the VRVxxagGeQE-00606-00154791-00154863 category VRVxxagGeQE-00607-00154864-00155031 [Music] VRVxxagGeQE-00608-00155032-00155311 level in line with the VRVxxagGeQE-00609-00155312-00155519 rainfall level and we have implemented VRVxxagGeQE-00610-00155520-00155735 100 VRVxxagGeQE-00611-00155736-00156047 we will add 30 units and VRVxxagGeQE-00612-00156048-00156223 our hope is that with these indicators VRVxxagGeQE-00613-00156224-00156454 we will be able to see the level of the VRVxxagGeQE-00614-00156455-00156663 image and the level of effectiveness of VRVxxagGeQE-00615-00156664-00156854 what we have implemented so far in VRVxxagGeQE-00616-00156855-00157087 addition to that we can we also conduct VRVxxagGeQE-00617-00157088-00157223 the assessment VRVxxagGeQE-00618-00157224-00157431 of the VRVxxagGeQE-00619-00157432-00157663 canal blocking that we have implemented VRVxxagGeQE-00620-00157664-00157935 or we have uh constructed VRVxxagGeQE-00621-00157936-00158095 so we do the VRVxxagGeQE-00622-00158096-00158311 assessment in some location we've seen VRVxxagGeQE-00623-00158312-00158759 some damages to the canal blocking VRVxxagGeQE-00624-00158760-00158926 as we know VRVxxagGeQE-00625-00158927-00159759 there might be VRVxxagGeQE-00626-00159760-00159911 some something VRVxxagGeQE-00627-00159912-00160239 and also damages caused by VRVxxagGeQE-00628-00160240-00160526 natural aspect and also madmade cause VRVxxagGeQE-00629-00160527-00160759 and VRVxxagGeQE-00630-00160760-00161126 we conduct improvement or VRVxxagGeQE-00631-00161127-00161375 repair to the damage that is happening VRVxxagGeQE-00632-00161376-00161487 and VRVxxagGeQE-00633-00161488-00161719 out of these three are and also the VRVxxagGeQE-00634-00161720-00162007 assessment regarding the canal blocking VRVxxagGeQE-00635-00162008-00162223 the second r and the third r which is VRVxxagGeQE-00636-00162224-00162495 ravitalization so we also look at the VRVxxagGeQE-00637-00162496-00162735 qualitative and quantitative assessment VRVxxagGeQE-00638-00162736-00162999 the percentage of VRVxxagGeQE-00639-00163000-00163126 growth VRVxxagGeQE-00640-00163127-00163278 in line with the VRVxxagGeQE-00641-00163279-00163495 regulation the level of success of VRVxxagGeQE-00642-00163496-00163807 revegetation is 500 VRVxxagGeQE-00643-00163808-00164111 plants per hectares and for the third r VRVxxagGeQE-00644-00164112-00164335 we also conduct assessment VRVxxagGeQE-00645-00164336-00164702 in the community for the develop VRVxxagGeQE-00646-00164703-00164895 business we also VRVxxagGeQE-00647-00164896-00165190 provide some empowerment to level up the VRVxxagGeQE-00648-00165191-00165495 value of the products VRVxxagGeQE-00649-00165496-00165695 produced by the communities and this is VRVxxagGeQE-00650-00165696-00165959 the key message important learning from VRVxxagGeQE-00651-00165960-00166214 what we have done so far the first one VRVxxagGeQE-00652-00166215-00166311 in VRVxxagGeQE-00653-00166312-00166671 bitland restoration we can see VRVxxagGeQE-00654-00166672-00166959 that the regulations of the pit lane was VRVxxagGeQE-00655-00166960-00167319 issued in 2014 so previously earlier VRVxxagGeQE-00656-00167320-00167543 than that peatland had been used by VRVxxagGeQE-00657-00167544-00167838 concessions and small holders and you VRVxxagGeQE-00658-00167839-00167999 can see VRVxxagGeQE-00659-00168000-00168166 some are protected VRVxxagGeQE-00660-00168167-00168478 pit lands and other types of pit lands VRVxxagGeQE-00661-00168479-00168751 so there are 12 million hectares of VRVxxagGeQE-00662-00168752-00169071 fitland it's very wide and even VRVxxagGeQE-00663-00169072-00169231 wider than VRVxxagGeQE-00664-00169232-00169454 java island in terms of the VRVxxagGeQE-00665-00169455-00169790 area and the next one is VRVxxagGeQE-00666-00169791-00170183 less effective partial restorations VRVxxagGeQE-00667-00170184-00170519 in the protected area and therefore VRVxxagGeQE-00668-00170520-00170726 we can see that in terms of the VRVxxagGeQE-00669-00170727-00171087 hydrological aspect of the lane VRVxxagGeQE-00670-00171088-00171431 for more effectiveness we need to look VRVxxagGeQE-00671-00171432-00171663 at the VRVxxagGeQE-00672-00171664-00171919 landscape of the VRVxxagGeQE-00673-00171920-00172071 itland itself VRVxxagGeQE-00674-00172072-00172359 the next one it is not only biophysical VRVxxagGeQE-00675-00172360-00172614 restoration but we also need to look at VRVxxagGeQE-00676-00172615-00172847 the social economic and VRVxxagGeQE-00677-00172848-00173054 institutional aspect VRVxxagGeQE-00678-00173055-00173271 so this is something to adopt so perhaps VRVxxagGeQE-00679-00173272-00173390 we can also VRVxxagGeQE-00680-00173391-00173687 test this one in the phu that we're VRVxxagGeQE-00681-00173688-00173854 going to work on VRVxxagGeQE-00682-00173855-00174190 and then VRVxxagGeQE-00683-00174191-00174390 this is VRVxxagGeQE-00684-00174391-00174783 concerning the phu VRVxxagGeQE-00685-00174784-00175102 from the learnings that we have taken VRVxxagGeQE-00686-00175103-00175295 from VRVxxagGeQE-00687-00175296-00175399 what VRVxxagGeQE-00688-00175400-00175638 have been done so far in the phu VRVxxagGeQE-00689-00175639-00176054 management there should be a multi VRVxxagGeQE-00690-00176055-00176511 stakeholders collaboration so phu cannot VRVxxagGeQE-00691-00176512-00176726 be done VRVxxagGeQE-00692-00176727-00177054 in silo there needs to be an engagement VRVxxagGeQE-00693-00177055-00177543 of many parties local governments VRVxxagGeQE-00694-00177544-00177751 and other stakeholders so this is the VRVxxagGeQE-00695-00177752-00177887 concept to VRVxxagGeQE-00696-00177888-00178143 be offered so to see how much is the VRVxxagGeQE-00697-00178144-00178487 degradation in the phu the damage level VRVxxagGeQE-00698-00178488-00178807 degradation level and we will determine VRVxxagGeQE-00699-00178808-00178902 the VRVxxagGeQE-00700-00178903-00179014 purpose VRVxxagGeQE-00701-00179015-00179175 of the VRVxxagGeQE-00702-00179176-00179614 phu for example in a particular phu the VRVxxagGeQE-00703-00179615-00179854 most dominant one is the VRVxxagGeQE-00704-00179855-00180135 land fire or forest fire VRVxxagGeQE-00705-00180136-00180295 that VRVxxagGeQE-00706-00180296-00180607 can cause damage to pit land ecosystem VRVxxagGeQE-00707-00180608-00180751 so we will VRVxxagGeQE-00708-00180752-00181135 map the purposes so each stakeholder VRVxxagGeQE-00709-00181136-00181351 purpose so we will map their purposes VRVxxagGeQE-00710-00181352-00181599 and goal and also we will collect the VRVxxagGeQE-00711-00181600-00181775 commitment of all stakeholders for VRVxxagGeQE-00712-00181776-00181999 example to achieve the goal of zero VRVxxagGeQE-00713-00182000-00182263 burning there must be programs re VRVxxagGeQE-00714-00182264-00182463 relevant to the zero burning VRVxxagGeQE-00715-00182464-00182847 goal the pros and cons in line with the VRVxxagGeQE-00716-00182848-00183007 determine goals so this is something VRVxxagGeQE-00717-00183008-00183238 that we are working on VRVxxagGeQE-00718-00183239-00183575 the next one is so these are the ph use VRVxxagGeQE-00719-00183576-00183775 that there are seven ph you that we have VRVxxagGeQE-00720-00183776-00184159 determined and um yes in my apology your VRVxxagGeQE-00721-00184160-00184383 time remaining is 30 seconds perhaps you VRVxxagGeQE-00722-00184384-00184551 can wrap up your presentation so there VRVxxagGeQE-00723-00184552-00184743 are several typologies VRVxxagGeQE-00724-00184744-00185135 uh island phu in the 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VRVxxagGeQE-00742-00189239-00189607 economy or biophysical aspect to define VRVxxagGeQE-00743-00189608-00189799 this model VRVxxagGeQE-00744-00189800-00190054 uh phu so perhaps this is the end of my VRVxxagGeQE-00745-00190055-00190183 presentation thank you so much for VRVxxagGeQE-00746-00190184-00190478 giving me more time so yeah that's VRVxxagGeQE-00747-00190479-00190687 a very important thing the last message VRVxxagGeQE-00748-00190688-00190943 is about collaboration collaboration to VRVxxagGeQE-00749-00190944-00191231 develop and to enhance the criteria and VRVxxagGeQE-00750-00191232-00191463 indicators and to see VRVxxagGeQE-00751-00191464-00191663 in which aspect we can VRVxxagGeQE-00752-00191664-00191926 conduct improvement and all of the VRVxxagGeQE-00753-00191927-00192126 indicators and verifiers thank you so VRVxxagGeQE-00754-00192127-00192414 much buddy for your presentation VRVxxagGeQE-00755-00192415-00192695 thank you so much and VRVxxagGeQE-00756-00192696-00192871 josie 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VV8SowMxSdA-00170-00344418-00345127 [Music] VV8SowMxSdA-00171-00345128-00345984 thank you VV8SowMxSdA-00173-00349055-00350822 foreign VV8SowMxSdA-00174-00350823-00352325 [Music] VV8SowMxSdA-00175-00352326-00353193 laughs VV8SowMxSdA-00176-00353194-00354619 [Music] VV8SowMxSdA-00177-00354620-00357277 thank you VV8SowMxSdA-00178-00357278-00360169 thank you VV8SowMxSdA-00179-00360170-00360701 [Applause] VV8SowMxSdA-00180-00360702-00360893 thank you VV8SowMxSdA-00181-00360894-00363665 foreign VV8SowMxSdA-00182-00363666-00363979 thank you VV8SowMxSdA-00183-00363980-00364378 [Music] VWDHSOoTsEc-00000-00000479-00000866 hi guys this is Jenny Lyles welcome to VWDHSOoTsEc-00001-00000867-00001154 out of my mind today we are going to VWDHSOoTsEc-00002-00001155-00001591 talk about the four FS of fear you've VWDHSOoTsEc-00003-00001592-00001859 probably seen this formulation before if VWDHSOoTsEc-00004-00001860-00002023 you've been in therapy if you studied VWDHSOoTsEc-00005-00002025-00002372 psychology it's a pretty common way to VWDHSOoTsEc-00006-00002373-00002714 categorize the different ways in which VWDHSOoTsEc-00007-00002715-00003043 people experience fear and while I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00008-00003044-00003320 doing this today I am going to be just VWDHSOoTsEc-00009-00003321-00003511 drawing the gridlines VWDHSOoTsEc-00010-00003513-00003847 form I'm a bullet journal so it's not VWDHSOoTsEc-00011-00003848-00004129 going to be fancy or pretty today but I VWDHSOoTsEc-00012-00004130-00004402 cheated and beforehand it might be hard VWDHSOoTsEc-00013-00004403-00004583 to see with the camera I've got little VWDHSOoTsEc-00014-00004584-00004859 pencil and pen marks and I'm just using VWDHSOoTsEc-00015-00004860-00005163 this as a straight edge to create lines VWDHSOoTsEc-00016-00005164-00005584 now I'm going to talk as though fear is VWDHSOoTsEc-00017-00005585-00006290 a tiger in the tent of a human being who VWDHSOoTsEc-00018-00006291-00006569 has nothing but their wits and whatever VWDHSOoTsEc-00019-00006570-00006842 they can find in the tent to save them VWDHSOoTsEc-00020-00006843-00007096 from the tiger because that's kind of VWDHSOoTsEc-00021-00007097-00007381 what fear is we stop working on what's VWDHSOoTsEc-00022-00007383-00007592 going to be next week's dinner and we VWDHSOoTsEc-00023-00007593-00007763 start working on how do we survive VWDHSOoTsEc-00024-00007764-00008281 having a having a tiger in our tent one VWDHSOoTsEc-00025-00008282-00008477 of my fear responses I'm kind of half VWDHSOoTsEc-00026-00008478-00008819 joking here is stuttering so sometimes VWDHSOoTsEc-00027-00008820-00009023 when I'm doing this I stutter and that's VWDHSOoTsEc-00028-00009024-00009164 just something you're going to have to VWDHSOoTsEc-00029-00009165-00009755 deal with anyway so going on to the four VWDHSOoTsEc-00030-00009756-00010039 ways we deal with fear the first is VWDHSOoTsEc-00031-00010040-00010328 fight we know what that is VWDHSOoTsEc-00032-00010329-00010601 then we have flight which is running VWDHSOoTsEc-00033-00010602-00010667 away VWDHSOoTsEc-00034-00010668-00011117 we have freeze which is hiding or being VWDHSOoTsEc-00035-00011118-00011723 unable to move and we have fawning which VWDHSOoTsEc-00036-00011724-00011959 people are often not as familiar with VWDHSOoTsEc-00037-00011960-00012477 which means that we are going to try to VWDHSOoTsEc-00038-00012478-00012860 make the object of our fear not want to VWDHSOoTsEc-00039-00012861-00012929 hurt us VWDHSOoTsEc-00040-00012930-00013229 so with fight we're going to in that VWDHSOoTsEc-00041-00013230-00013565 tent we talked about we are going to VWDHSOoTsEc-00042-00013566-00013655 grow VWDHSOoTsEc-00043-00013656-00013888 the nearest weapon like object and VWDHSOoTsEc-00044-00013890-00014222 attack the target or the tiger or yell VWDHSOoTsEc-00045-00014222-00014486 at him or somehow try to frighten him VWDHSOoTsEc-00046-00014487-00014954 out of the tent with flight we are going VWDHSOoTsEc-00047-00014955-00015224 to run away run away run away run away VWDHSOoTsEc-00048-00015225-00015694 as fast as we can from mr. tiger with VWDHSOoTsEc-00049-00015695-00015911 freeze we are going to be a bunny rabbit VWDHSOoTsEc-00050-00015912-00016219 not a jackrabbit and we are going to VWDHSOoTsEc-00051-00016220-00016517 find a burrow to hide in I don't know VWDHSOoTsEc-00052-00016518-00016697 where that would be in a tiny little VWDHSOoTsEc-00053-00016698-00016907 tent with a dragon but it wouldn't work VWDHSOoTsEc-00054-00016908-00017480 dragon huh tiger but in either case it VWDHSOoTsEc-00055-00017481-00017750 would be someplace that we think we VWDHSOoTsEc-00056-00017751-00017860 might be safe VWDHSOoTsEc-00057-00017861-00018209 the final one fawn here's a really good VWDHSOoTsEc-00058-00018210-00018359 illustration of it it goes like this VWDHSOoTsEc-00059-00018360-00018725 hey mr. tiger if you don't kill me I'll VWDHSOoTsEc-00060-00018726-00019022 bring you meat every day for the rest of VWDHSOoTsEc-00061-00019023-00019262 your life how's that for a deal it's VWDHSOoTsEc-00062-00019263-00019546 probably how our primitive ancestors VWDHSOoTsEc-00063-00019547-00019952 adopted dogs by the way but fawning is VWDHSOoTsEc-00064-00019953-00020291 trying to meet the needs of whatever is VWDHSOoTsEc-00065-00020292-00020555 making us afraid when usually in this VWDHSOoTsEc-00066-00020556-00020722 case it's going to be interpersonal fear VWDHSOoTsEc-00067-00020723-00021152 fear of other people and thereby be so VWDHSOoTsEc-00068-00021153-00021371 valuable that we won't get eaten of VWDHSOoTsEc-00069-00021372-00021530 course that probably doesn't work so VWDHSOoTsEc-00070-00021531-00021781 well with Tigers although it might work VWDHSOoTsEc-00071-00021782-00021977 if we happen to have a slab of meat in VWDHSOoTsEc-00072-00021978-00022391 the room okay now because I had to take VWDHSOoTsEc-00073-00022392-00022550 off my glasses to do this because my VWDHSOoTsEc-00074-00022551-00022744 prescriptions are old I'm going to show VWDHSOoTsEc-00075-00022745-00023197 you my page here we go and I'm going to VWDHSOoTsEc-00076-00023198-00023799 move it up a little bit VWDHSOoTsEc-00077-00023800-00024239 in any anxiety diagnosis your fear is VWDHSOoTsEc-00078-00024240-00024540 going to be whatever you're anxious VWDHSOoTsEc-00079-00024541-00024804 about and you're going to find that you VWDHSOoTsEc-00080-00024805-00024984 have a couple of favorites let's go VWDHSOoTsEc-00081-00024985-00025239 through them one more time so that you VWDHSOoTsEc-00082-00025240-00025431 have an idea of what we're talking about VWDHSOoTsEc-00083-00025432-00025622 I'm gonna switch to the next page here VWDHSOoTsEc-00084-00025623-00026111 and I really wish I could find a better VWDHSOoTsEc-00085-00026112-00026364 straightedge but unfortunately my real VWDHSOoTsEc-00086-00026364-00026706 ruler seems to have gone walkabout like VWDHSOoTsEc-00087-00026707-00026922 my dog lady did last night and she ran VWDHSOoTsEc-00088-00026923-00027105 and found garbage and now we're giving VWDHSOoTsEc-00089-00027106-00027525 her a bath today anyway fight is when VWDHSOoTsEc-00090-00027526-00027888 you roar at the lion right or the tiger VWDHSOoTsEc-00091-00027889-00028080 or the bear or apparently the dragon VWDHSOoTsEc-00092-00028081-00028236 apparently I've been watching too much VWDHSOoTsEc-00093-00028237-00028439 Game of Thrones so you're going to fight VWDHSOoTsEc-00094-00028441-00028701 back with words you're gonna fight back VWDHSOoTsEc-00095-00028702-00028833 with your fists you're going to fight VWDHSOoTsEc-00096-00028833-00029154 back with whatever object you find able VWDHSOoTsEc-00097-00029155-00029424 to fight back with right that is how VWDHSOoTsEc-00098-00029425-00029694 you're going to fight as a fear reaction VWDHSOoTsEc-00099-00029695-00029895 you're not always going to make a good VWDHSOoTsEc-00100-00029895-00030033 fight here it's not always a great VWDHSOoTsEc-00101-00030033-00030174 choice to fight but that doesn't matter VWDHSOoTsEc-00102-00030175-00030324 because you're not thinking about next VWDHSOoTsEc-00103-00030325-00030432 week's lunch you're thinking about VWDHSOoTsEc-00104-00030433-00030792 surviving the tiger in the tent some of VWDHSOoTsEc-00105-00030793-00031302 the things that you might have a sudden VWDHSOoTsEc-00106-00031302-00032004 rage you might have a serious chance and VWDHSOoTsEc-00107-00032005-00032207 this is actually folks I'm going to VWDHSOoTsEc-00108-00032208-00032463 people who are fighters as their first VWDHSOoTsEc-00109-00032464-00032664 free fear response and by the way guys VWDHSOoTsEc-00110-00032664-00032979 I'm one have to be really really careful VWDHSOoTsEc-00111-00032980-00033261 that they don't become whatever it is VWDHSOoTsEc-00112-00033262-00033420 they're afraid of you don't want to VWDHSOoTsEc-00113-00033421-00033543 become the tiger you don't want to VWDHSOoTsEc-00114-00033544-00033702 become the fearsome thing that everybody VWDHSOoTsEc-00115-00033703-00033948 is afraid of and when you're a fighter VWDHSOoTsEc-00116-00033949-00034127 by a nature this one might work better VWDHSOoTsEc-00117-00034128-00034365 when you're a fighter by Nature you VWDHSOoTsEc-00118-00034366-00034782 might find that you are yelling and VWDHSOoTsEc-00119-00034783-00035055 being the threat that you were afraid of VWDHSOoTsEc-00120-00035056-00035463 in the first place in which case you VWDHSOoTsEc-00121-00035464-00035673 might want to work on that a little bit VWDHSOoTsEc-00122-00035674-00035904 as you can see I went over in a couple VWDHSOoTsEc-00123-00035905-00036245 spots that's what whiteout is for and VWDHSOoTsEc-00124-00036246-00036514 we're gonna keep going VWDHSOoTsEc-00125-00036515-00036817 now with fries and this is uh no I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00126-00036818-00037054 sorry we'll go to flight sorry with VWDHSOoTsEc-00127-00037055-00037287 flight this is pretty obvious run away VWDHSOoTsEc-00128-00037288-00037635 run away money Python says run away VWDHSOoTsEc-00129-00037636-00037996 leave a relationship leave a job leave VWDHSOoTsEc-00130-00037997-00038465 it's a an opportunity Lea the school VWDHSOoTsEc-00131-00038466-00038893 even just dissociation in trauma is kind VWDHSOoTsEc-00132-00038894-00039090 of a sort of leaving you're kind of VWDHSOoTsEc-00133-00039091-00039352 leaving your brain behind and going VWDHSOoTsEc-00134-00039353-00039643 someplace else and those of you have VWDHSOoTsEc-00135-00039644-00039868 ever dissociated you'll know what I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00136-00039869-00040051 talking about it kind of feels like VWDHSOoTsEc-00137-00040052-00040496 you're just not there anymore VWDHSOoTsEc-00138-00040497-00040818 you can sometimes run by trying new VWDHSOoTsEc-00139-00040819-00041112 things over and over and over again and VWDHSOoTsEc-00140-00041113-00041308 then giving up when it gets hard because VWDHSOoTsEc-00141-00041309-00041533 the fear comes back that's again we're VWDHSOoTsEc-00142-00041534-00041712 concentrating on the tiger on the cage VWDHSOoTsEc-00143-00041713-00041937 we are not concentrating on next week's VWDHSOoTsEc-00144-00041938-00042400 lunch which is a problem so freezing you VWDHSOoTsEc-00145-00042401-00042661 can't see me you can't see me can you VWDHSOoTsEc-00146-00042662-00042775 pick yourself it's a little VWDHSOoTsEc-00147-00042776-00042952 three-year-old child in that tent would VWDHSOoTsEc-00148-00042953-00043162 that Tiger thinking that you're safe VWDHSOoTsEc-00149-00043163-00043318 because you've put your hands over your VWDHSOoTsEc-00150-00043319-00043546 eyes that's kind of what freezes like VWDHSOoTsEc-00151-00043547-00043843 it's not really effective it can be VWDHSOoTsEc-00152-00043844-00044005 effective in certain circumstances I VWDHSOoTsEc-00153-00044006-00044257 mean after all we are overrun with VWDHSOoTsEc-00154-00044258-00044443 little bunny rabbits all over the world VWDHSOoTsEc-00155-00044444-00044668 ask Australia they can tell you in VWDHSOoTsEc-00156-00044669-00044986 really gory detail although I think some VWDHSOoTsEc-00157-00044987-00045537 of their Jackrabbits but you want to get VWDHSOoTsEc-00158-00045538-00045837 stuck when you freeze you get stuck in VWDHSOoTsEc-00159-00045838-00046096 relationships you get stuck in jobs you VWDHSOoTsEc-00160-00046097-00046975 don't like you get stuck in doing doing VWDHSOoTsEc-00161-00046976-00047233 tasks that are scary to you different VWDHSOoTsEc-00162-00047234-00047481 people have scary different scary tasks VWDHSOoTsEc-00163-00047482-00047782 for me I tend to get stuck with any kind VWDHSOoTsEc-00164-00047783-00048060 of paperwork involving data entry or VWDHSOoTsEc-00165-00048061-00048535 math I learned to fear math for some VWDHSOoTsEc-00166-00048536-00048685 unknown reason because I'm actually VWDHSOoTsEc-00167-00048686-00048889 quite good at it when I sit down and do VWDHSOoTsEc-00168-00048890-00049339 it but I'm still afraid of it I am VWDHSOoTsEc-00169-00049340-00049539 afraid of making outgoing phone calls VWDHSOoTsEc-00170-00049540-00049738 and people who call me that is why VWDHSOoTsEc-00171-00049739-00049827 sometimes it take VWDHSOoTsEc-00172-00049828-00050013 me a while to get back to you email is VWDHSOoTsEc-00173-00050014-00050280 much easier for me because I am a writer VWDHSOoTsEc-00174-00050281-00050620 and not a talker by nature so freezing VWDHSOoTsEc-00175-00050621-00050940 is when you stop in place and try to VWDHSOoTsEc-00176-00050941-00051288 become invisible and this can work in VWDHSOoTsEc-00177-00051289-00051487 certain situations but again we're VWDHSOoTsEc-00178-00051488-00051661 thinking very short-term here it's not VWDHSOoTsEc-00179-00051662-00051879 particularly healthy any of these VWDHSOoTsEc-00180-00051880-00052146 reactions these are just what happens VWDHSOoTsEc-00181-00052147-00052377 when our fear overcomes us it doesn't VWDHSOoTsEc-00182-00052378-00052554 mean it's healthy it doesn't mean it's VWDHSOoTsEc-00183-00052555-00052743 something we should or shouldn't do it VWDHSOoTsEc-00184-00052744-00053091 just is we'll get into what we can do VWDHSOoTsEc-00185-00053092-00053353 differently in the next video that VWDHSOoTsEc-00186-00053354-00053560 covers the four FS which will not be VWDHSOoTsEc-00187-00053561-00054265 today okay the final one faun it has the VWDHSOoTsEc-00188-00054266-00054555 potential of being very very useful in a VWDHSOoTsEc-00189-00054556-00054787 lot of settings you will see faun used a VWDHSOoTsEc-00190-00054788-00055048 lot in social settings by people who VWDHSOoTsEc-00191-00055049-00055285 have particularly good to fear response VWDHSOoTsEc-00192-00055286-00055524 but it's got a significant downside to VWDHSOoTsEc-00193-00055525-00055893 so I'm basically saying good kitty I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00194-00055894-00056248 too valuable to eat I will be what you VWDHSOoTsEc-00195-00056249-00056662 need me to be I will lose myself in VWDHSOoTsEc-00196-00056663-00057063 other words I'm going to be paying VWDHSOoTsEc-00197-00057064-00057235 attention to other people's needs I VWDHSOoTsEc-00198-00057236-00057504 don't want to do that one I will be VWDHSOoTsEc-00199-00057505-00057717 paying I will have poor boundaries with VWDHSOoTsEc-00200-00057719-00057874 other people because if they ask me to VWDHSOoTsEc-00201-00057875-00058216 do something my fear reaction will say VWDHSOoTsEc-00202-00058216-00058467 oh I've got to do that thing because if VWDHSOoTsEc-00203-00058469-00058841 I don't the tiger will eat me right well VWDHSOoTsEc-00204-00058842-00059098 no the tiger won't eat you but you have VWDHSOoTsEc-00205-00059099-00059316 a tiger in your past that might have so VWDHSOoTsEc-00206-00059317-00059787 you are going to be kind of cautious now VWDHSOoTsEc-00207-00059788-00060040 you're going to have a significant risk VWDHSOoTsEc-00208-00060041-00060405 of being found by and taken advantage of VWDHSOoTsEc-00209-00060406-00060703 by an abuser and I phrased it that way VWDHSOoTsEc-00210-00060704-00060916 for a very specific reason that I will VWDHSOoTsEc-00211-00060916-00061186 get into one of these videos but not VWDHSOoTsEc-00212-00061187-00061471 today it comes down to it is not your VWDHSOoTsEc-00213-00061472-00061696 fault if you are abused and I will get VWDHSOoTsEc-00214-00061697-00061999 into the psychological dynamics of that VWDHSOoTsEc-00215-00062000-00062446 at another time you ignore your own pain VWDHSOoTsEc-00216-00062447-00062769 you ignore your own needs your own wants VWDHSOoTsEc-00217-00062770-00063112 your own feels you you never feel good VWDHSOoTsEc-00218-00063113-00063178 enough to VWDHSOoTsEc-00219-00063179-00063715 not be afraid you solve the other VWDHSOoTsEc-00220-00063716-00064150 people's problems all the time now I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00221-00064151-00064384 not going to get really really deep into VWDHSOoTsEc-00222-00064385-00064542 what do you do with these today because VWDHSOoTsEc-00223-00064544-00064734 I just frankly don't have enough time VWDHSOoTsEc-00224-00064735-00064996 what I am going to do is talk real VWDHSOoTsEc-00225-00064997-00065205 quickly about what happens when you've VWDHSOoTsEc-00226-00065207-00065791 got mismatched sets of fear responses VWDHSOoTsEc-00227-00065792-00065977 now remember these are fear responses VWDHSOoTsEc-00228-00065978-00066228 that are the tiger is in the room VWDHSOoTsEc-00229-00066229-00066718 unfortunately for most people with VWDHSOoTsEc-00230-00066719-00067141 anxiety disorders the tiger is always or VWDHSOoTsEc-00231-00067142-00067582 usually or frequently in the room that VWDHSOoTsEc-00232-00067583-00068056 is how anxiety disorders work they work VWDHSOoTsEc-00233-00068057-00068278 by making you think that the tiger is VWDHSOoTsEc-00234-00068279-00068494 there all the time and you always have VWDHSOoTsEc-00235-00068495-00068773 to defend yourself it's very very VWDHSOoTsEc-00236-00068774-00069019 thoughtful of PTSD to do that for you VWDHSOoTsEc-00237-00069020-00069217 but it's not actually that helpful it's VWDHSOoTsEc-00238-00069218-00069307 kind of like when a three-year-old VWDHSOoTsEc-00239-00069308-00069562 offers to clean the house for you you're VWDHSOoTsEc-00240-00069563-00069712 probably gonna have to do it yourself VWDHSOoTsEc-00241-00069713-00070270 later anyway I am my primary go to is VWDHSOoTsEc-00242-00070271-00070561 fight like I said that has a couple VWDHSOoTsEc-00243-00070562-00070789 significant downfalls not least of which VWDHSOoTsEc-00244-00070790-00071062 is that I have the potential of being a VWDHSOoTsEc-00245-00071063-00071302 bully myself I am very aware of this i VWDHSOoTsEc-00246-00071303-00071575 watch myself for it I sometimes fail if VWDHSOoTsEc-00247-00071576-00071794 you pay attention to me on the internet VWDHSOoTsEc-00248-00071795-00072025 you will see that I sometimes fail that VWDHSOoTsEc-00249-00072026-00072271 is my fear response and I try to be VWDHSOoTsEc-00250-00072272-00072379 mindful of it VWDHSOoTsEc-00251-00072380-00072532 and I am NOT always successful but VWDHSOoTsEc-00252-00072533-00072787 because I am somebody who encourages VWDHSOoTsEc-00253-00072788-00072994 people to study their processes I do not VWDHSOoTsEc-00254-00072995-00073309 delete the things that I have left up VWDHSOoTsEc-00255-00073310-00073531 and that have caused harm because I want VWDHSOoTsEc-00256-00073532-00073735 people to see my mistakes as well as my VWDHSOoTsEc-00257-00073736-00074275 successes my second go-to is freeze that VWDHSOoTsEc-00258-00074276-00074458 is the second most common thing I do VWDHSOoTsEc-00259-00074459-00074653 whoops I don't know how that happened VWDHSOoTsEc-00260-00074654-00074920 anyway my second most common is freeze I VWDHSOoTsEc-00261-00074921-00075322 don't I have a tendency when I can't VWDHSOoTsEc-00262-00075323-00075643 fight for whatever reason I will freeze VWDHSOoTsEc-00263-00075644-00075982 I will stop working um I also VWDHSOoTsEc-00264-00075983-00076276 disassociate stuff that sometimes that's VWDHSOoTsEc-00265-00076277-00076525 part of my PTSD as well VWDHSOoTsEc-00266-00076526-00076942 I used to be a phoner but I was the VWDHSOoTsEc-00267-00076943-00077215 victim of a true sadist VWDHSOoTsEc-00268-00077216-00077412 at one point of my life and that cured VWDHSOoTsEc-00269-00077413-00077686 me of being a fawn er because there is VWDHSOoTsEc-00270-00077687-00077992 nothing you can do that'll be enough for VWDHSOoTsEc-00271-00077993-00078282 a true sadist to stop hurting you VWDHSOoTsEc-00272-00078283-00078640 because that sadists urge is to hurt you VWDHSOoTsEc-00273-00078641-00078973 where it's most common abusers their VWDHSOoTsEc-00274-00078974-00079366 urge is to ease their own pain and their VWDHSOoTsEc-00275-00079367-00079735 own fear which is why so many abusers VWDHSOoTsEc-00276-00079736-00080118 are fighters but let's say like in my VWDHSOoTsEc-00277-00080119-00080376 family living in my home right now I'm a VWDHSOoTsEc-00278-00080377-00081010 fight freeze person my husband is he VWDHSOoTsEc-00279-00081011-00081310 goes kind of between fawn and flight or VWDHSOoTsEc-00280-00081311-00081478 fawn and fries he's not much of a VWDHSOoTsEc-00281-00081479-00081886 fighter my oldest son is pretty VWDHSOoTsEc-00282-00081887-00082137 definitely a freeze fawn person VWDHSOoTsEc-00283-00082138-00082429 occasionally flight but again not much VWDHSOoTsEc-00284-00082430-00082486 of a fighter VWDHSOoTsEc-00285-00082487-00082705 so I guess who does most of the yelling VWDHSOoTsEc-00286-00082706-00082909 in my houses I'll give you three guesses VWDHSOoTsEc-00287-00082910-00083110 and it's not my son and it's not my VWDHSOoTsEc-00288-00083111-00083568 husband so there's a mismatch there a VWDHSOoTsEc-00289-00083569-00083818 little example and I'm not going to go VWDHSOoTsEc-00290-00083819-00084022 into a lot of details but I was VWDHSOoTsEc-00291-00084023-00084223 expecting something important in the VWDHSOoTsEc-00292-00084224-00084655 mail last week and I had had a really VWDHSOoTsEc-00293-00084656-00084843 rough day I had a lot of vulnerabilities VWDHSOoTsEc-00294-00084844-00085036 and vulnerabilities are important to VWDHSOoTsEc-00295-00085037-00085222 fear because the more vulnerability you VWDHSOoTsEc-00296-00085223-00085443 are the more likely you are to feel VWDHSOoTsEc-00297-00085444-00085794 deeper higher scarier fear fear and I VWDHSOoTsEc-00298-00085795-00085975 had a lot of vulnerabilities that day VWDHSOoTsEc-00299-00085976-00086184 I'd had a doctor's appointment and that VWDHSOoTsEc-00300-00086185-00086413 doctor's appointment was one at which I VWDHSOoTsEc-00301-00086414-00086769 had a fasting blood test and I hadn't VWDHSOoTsEc-00302-00086770-00086923 slept well the night before and it was a VWDHSOoTsEc-00303-00086924-00087175 new doctor so you know I don't like new VWDHSOoTsEc-00304-00087176-00087393 people anyway and I'm not fond of going VWDHSOoTsEc-00305-00087394-00087732 to the doctor so those are two things I VWDHSOoTsEc-00306-00087733-00088155 was hungry I was sleepy I got stuck in VWDHSOoTsEc-00307-00088156-00088638 order to get a blood test and I got VWDHSOoTsEc-00308-00088639-00088872 stuck again in order to get a very very VWDHSOoTsEc-00309-00088873-00089167 overdue flu shot people vaccinate please VWDHSOoTsEc-00310-00089168-00089725 please please anyway so I was feeling a VWDHSOoTsEc-00311-00089726-00089893 lot of things and I was VWDHSOoTsEc-00312-00089894-00090130 also really excited because the thing VWDHSOoTsEc-00313-00090131-00090388 I'm getting was a brand new toy that I'd VWDHSOoTsEc-00314-00090389-00090622 been looking forward for for a long time VWDHSOoTsEc-00315-00090623-00090883 and it was something that was pretty VWDHSOoTsEc-00316-00090884-00091174 expensive and that if I wasn't able to VWDHSOoTsEc-00317-00091175-00091423 get it I wouldn't be able to replace it VWDHSOoTsEc-00318-00091424-00091819 does that make sense okay so I get home VWDHSOoTsEc-00319-00091820-00091981 from my doctor's appointment and my VWDHSOoTsEc-00320-00091982-00092170 husband's disabled my son works evening VWDHSOoTsEc-00321-00092171-00092365 so they were both home and there was a VWDHSOoTsEc-00322-00092366-00092806 package on my front step actually there VWDHSOoTsEc-00323-00092807-00092962 were two they were both from Amazon yeah VWDHSOoTsEc-00324-00092963-00093607 Amazon boo Amazon both anyway there were VWDHSOoTsEc-00325-00093608-00093823 two packages one was obviously too small VWDHSOoTsEc-00326-00093824-00094072 to be the thing that I wanted and the VWDHSOoTsEc-00327-00094073-00094303 other was possibly too large but might VWDHSOoTsEc-00328-00094304-00094429 have been the right thing but you see I VWDHSOoTsEc-00329-00094430-00094762 order I order uh some staples every VWDHSOoTsEc-00330-00094763-00094981 month on Amazon because they're cheaper VWDHSOoTsEc-00331-00094982-00095185 and because I have to watch my budget VWDHSOoTsEc-00332-00095186-00095341 because I'm a therapist and therapists VWDHSOoTsEc-00333-00095342-00095749 don't make money so anyway I get up VWDHSOoTsEc-00334-00095750-00095995 there and I take a look and it's pretty VWDHSOoTsEc-00335-00095996-00096208 clear that the biggest box is my dog VWDHSOoTsEc-00336-00096209-00096412 food that you know lady day is going to VWDHSOoTsEc-00337-00096413-00096618 be very happy to get but isn't my toy VWDHSOoTsEc-00338-00096619-00097114 right and the other box is a little dry VWDHSOoTsEc-00339-00097115-00097318 erase board that I have bought for these VWDHSOoTsEc-00340-00097319-00097678 videos that you'll be seeing shortly not VWDHSOoTsEc-00341-00097679-00098062 today so I'm still kind of excited but VWDHSOoTsEc-00342-00098063-00098209 I'm also disappointed because my toy VWDHSOoTsEc-00343-00098210-00098758 hasn't come yet and so I go back inside VWDHSOoTsEc-00344-00098759-00099063 and I look at my husband and I say oh VWDHSOoTsEc-00345-00099064-00099523 darling is my toy inside and he looks at VWDHSOoTsEc-00346-00099524-00099712 me and he says no it's out on the front VWDHSOoTsEc-00347-00099713-00099979 porch I signed for it and I don't know VWDHSOoTsEc-00348-00099980-00100192 how much you know about Amazon but I'll VWDHSOoTsEc-00349-00100193-00100420 tell you this if you sign for something VWDHSOoTsEc-00350-00100421-00100717 and you didn't actually get it you have VWDHSOoTsEc-00351-00100718-00100960 no way of proving you didn't get it so VWDHSOoTsEc-00352-00100961-00101251 if my son husband signed for my toy and VWDHSOoTsEc-00353-00101252-00101518 didn't actually get it I was out that VWDHSOoTsEc-00354-00101519-00101785 money and I was out that toy and I was VWDHSOoTsEc-00355-00101786-00102166 out on my butt and I was furious I was VWDHSOoTsEc-00356-00102167-00102357 beyond furious and I was also terrified VWDHSOoTsEc-00357-00102358-00102649 because this toy isn't just a toy it's VWDHSOoTsEc-00358-00102650-00102928 also kind of a tool and it would have VWDHSOoTsEc-00359-00102929-00103192 been a real big deal to uh VWDHSOoTsEc-00360-00103193-00103669 to not have it so I blew up VWDHSOoTsEc-00361-00103670-00103954 boy did I blew up I lost my temper I VWDHSOoTsEc-00362-00103955-00104136 stomped around the house and even doing VWDHSOoTsEc-00363-00104138-00104299 this I was still trying to use my coping VWDHSOoTsEc-00364-00104300-00104455 skills so I was running to the kitchen VWDHSOoTsEc-00365-00104456-00104590 to try to get something to eat VWDHSOoTsEc-00366-00104591-00104797 as I was stopping around the house and VWDHSOoTsEc-00367-00104798-00104961 explaining to my husband why he had VWDHSOoTsEc-00368-00104963-00105445 wrecked my life and I was I was just not VWDHSOoTsEc-00369-00105446-00105718 okay okay guys because you know we're VWDHSOoTsEc-00370-00105719-00105880 talking somebody who's hungry who's VWDHSOoTsEc-00371-00105881-00106123 tired who's had a really long morning VWDHSOoTsEc-00372-00106124-00106393 who has nine appointments right after VWDHSOoTsEc-00373-00106394-00106597 this and has to be at work in 20 minutes VWDHSOoTsEc-00374-00106598-00106807 who suddenly thinks that something very VWDHSOoTsEc-00375-00106808-00107068 expensive is not going to be delivered VWDHSOoTsEc-00376-00107069-00107191 and they're gonna be out both the money VWDHSOoTsEc-00377-00107192-00107838 and the thing so short long story short VWDHSOoTsEc-00378-00107839-00108133 my husband had signed for the dog food VWDHSOoTsEc-00379-00108133-00108319 and for the dry erase board and the VWDHSOoTsEc-00380-00108320-00108457 other thing did come in the mail later VWDHSOoTsEc-00381-00108458-00108619 that day and I have played with it and VWDHSOoTsEc-00382-00108620-00108919 it is wonderful and if you're watching VWDHSOoTsEc-00383-00108920-00109180 this Rick thank you for the computer but VWDHSOoTsEc-00384-00109181-00109386 I have replaced it and that one is going VWDHSOoTsEc-00385-00109388-00109836 to be my backup computer now anyway but VWDHSOoTsEc-00386-00109838-00110218 anyway my son is a bond freeze or freeze VWDHSOoTsEc-00387-00110219-00110428 fawn when he's in a good place he's VWDHSOoTsEc-00388-00110429-00110661 fawning first and rest of the time he's VWDHSOoTsEc-00389-00110663-00110914 freeze so he comes out and he hears me VWDHSOoTsEc-00390-00110915-00111397 yelling and he looks at me and goes so VWDHSOoTsEc-00391-00111398-00111550 what's the problem and I'm still trying VWDHSOoTsEc-00392-00111551-00111721 to calm myself down I'm still trying to VWDHSOoTsEc-00393-00111722-00111877 use my coping skills and those of you VWDHSOoTsEc-00394-00111878-00112110 who have used do Beatty before know that VWDHSOoTsEc-00395-00112111-00112318 I would be marking my diary card on that VWDHSOoTsEc-00396-00112319-00112453 right now VWDHSOoTsEc-00397-00112454-00112710 if I had my diary card out and that I VWDHSOoTsEc-00398-00112711-00113020 tried to use my coping skills skills but VWDHSOoTsEc-00399-00113021-00113314 they didn't work very well right so I VWDHSOoTsEc-00400-00113315-00113524 was trying to use my coping skills and VWDHSOoTsEc-00401-00113525-00113886 they didn't work really well so my son VWDHSOoTsEc-00402-00113888-00114094 bless his heart he's trying to calm me VWDHSOoTsEc-00403-00114095-00114328 down he almost succeeds but my husband VWDHSOoTsEc-00404-00114329-00114538 jumps in and tries to defend himself and VWDHSOoTsEc-00405-00114539-00114820 I love my husband but he shouldn't have VWDHSOoTsEc-00406-00114821-00114994 done this and I don't really blame him VWDHSOoTsEc-00407-00114995-00115147 because sometimes he doesn't understand VWDHSOoTsEc-00408-00115148-00115359 things since his head injury so I'm not VWDHSOoTsEc-00409-00115360-00115555 really mad at him I'm just really really VWDHSOoTsEc-00410-00115556-00115738 frustrated with him and scared half to VWDHSOoTsEc-00411-00115739-00115771 death VWDHSOoTsEc-00412-00115772-00116089 right so I blow up again and my son just VWDHSOoTsEc-00413-00116090-00116233 takes one look at me and says I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00414-00116233-00116452 leaving and he goes downstairs and goes VWDHSOoTsEc-00415-00116453-00116565 and hides in the basement VWDHSOoTsEc-00416-00116566-00116706 which is he's got a little pad down VWDHSOoTsEc-00417-00116707-00117135 there which is fine so after work I know VWDHSOoTsEc-00418-00117136-00117279 I get myself settled down by the time I VWDHSOoTsEc-00419-00117280-00117477 get to work I look it up on Amazon and VWDHSOoTsEc-00420-00117478-00117627 sure enough and I couldn't do it at home VWDHSOoTsEc-00421-00117628-00117771 because my computer was already packed VWDHSOoTsEc-00422-00117772-00118107 up but I looked it up and sure enough my VWDHSOoTsEc-00423-00118108-00118353 new computer which is wonderful and VWDHSOoTsEc-00424-00118354-00118599 awesome and literally irreplaceable VWDHSOoTsEc-00425-00118600-00118887 right now is on its way and it'll be VWDHSOoTsEc-00426-00118888-00119124 there by 8 o'clock that night so I'm VWDHSOoTsEc-00427-00119125-00119283 like okay I'm calm down I text my VWDHSOoTsEc-00428-00119284-00119544 husband as I as I go to text him he's VWDHSOoTsEc-00429-00119545-00119745 already texted me to apologize more all VWDHSOoTsEc-00430-00119746-00119997 good but my son he wasn't all good I VWDHSOoTsEc-00431-00119998-00120222 knew that so I had to pick up my VWDHSOoTsEc-00432-00120223-00120345 prescription so that night when I got VWDHSOoTsEc-00433-00120346-00120534 off work after I think 9 appointments it VWDHSOoTsEc-00434-00120535-00120762 was a crazy crazy week last week I saw a VWDHSOoTsEc-00435-00120763-00121416 lot of people and at the CVS where I VWDHSOoTsEc-00436-00121417-00121809 went I picked up some truffles some VWDHSOoTsEc-00437-00121810-00121941 chocolate truffles because chocolate VWDHSOoTsEc-00438-00121942-00122175 truffles are amazing and yummy and my VWDHSOoTsEc-00439-00122176-00122457 son and I are both chocoholics so I VWDHSOoTsEc-00440-00122458-00122670 bought him some truck truffles I waited VWDHSOoTsEc-00441-00122671-00122889 until he came home from work and I did VWDHSOoTsEc-00442-00122890-00123210 what I call a repair I handed him the VWDHSOoTsEc-00443-00123211-00123546 chocolates I told him I was sorry and I VWDHSOoTsEc-00444-00123547-00123804 said sweetheart the bottom line is when VWDHSOoTsEc-00445-00123805-00124134 I'm anxious I am going to explode when VWDHSOoTsEc-00446-00124135-00124306 you're anxious you're going to either VWDHSOoTsEc-00447-00124307-00124551 try to appease me or hide and I'm really VWDHSOoTsEc-00448-00124552-00124746 really sorry that we come at each other VWDHSOoTsEc-00449-00124747-00124974 this way and I'm always going to try to VWDHSOoTsEc-00450-00124975-00125262 let you know afterwards that I wasn't VWDHSOoTsEc-00451-00125263-00125457 mad at you and you aren't in danger VWDHSOoTsEc-00452-00125458-00125616 because that's all I can do because I VWDHSOoTsEc-00453-00125617-00125844 can't control my anxiety a hundred VWDHSOoTsEc-00454-00125845-00126150 percent now I've probably taken ten VWDHSOoTsEc-00455-00126151-00126276 minutes to tell you about this the VWDHSOoTsEc-00456-00126277-00126600 entire episode took less than six or VWDHSOoTsEc-00457-00126601-00126774 seven I was really in a hurry to get to VWDHSOoTsEc-00458-00126775-00126951 work so I only exploded for a very short VWDHSOoTsEc-00459-00126952-00127290 time but it was enough and it caused VWDHSOoTsEc-00460-00127291-00127593 problems this is an example of how VWDHSOoTsEc-00461-00127594-00128094 having different fear reactions with the VWDHSOoTsEc-00462-00128095-00128319 different of the four FS can cause VWDHSOoTsEc-00463-00128320-00128565 problems for you in any case thank you VWDHSOoTsEc-00464-00128566-00128745 for tuning in I hope you liked my little VWDHSOoTsEc-00465-00128746-00129177 story I will have the video up the first VWDHSOoTsEc-00466-00129178-00129396 day the second day you will be able to VWDHSOoTsEc-00467-00129397-00129756 find the audio up on patreon two days VWDHSOoTsEc-00468-00129757-00129901 after that you should be VWDHSOoTsEc-00469-00129902-00130168 able to find the article on oom MDOT VWDHSOoTsEc-00470-00130169-00130624 live and then I will each will release VWDHSOoTsEc-00471-00130625-00131080 from patron only status three days after VWDHSOoTsEc-00472-00131081-00131352 it is published my patreon of course is VWDHSOoTsEc-00473-00131353-00131953 yeah sorry patreon.com backslash jl i le VWDHSOoTsEc-00474-00131954-00132211 s and you can hear the nervousness in my VWDHSOoTsEc-00475-00132212-00132499 voice because talking about fear was a VWDHSOoTsEc-00476-00132500-00132637 little frightening for me VWDHSOoTsEc-00477-00132638-00132898 so tune in next time and i'll have a VWDHSOoTsEc-00478-00132899-00133078 different topic that talks about VWDHSOoTsEc-00479-00133079-00133468 something that affects your life in your VWDHSOoTsEc-00480-00133469-00133822 mental health symptoms that you can make VWDHSOoTsEc-00481-00133823-00134095 small changes about I might go back to VWDHSOoTsEc-00482-00134096-00134281 the fear thing I have a couple of other VWDHSOoTsEc-00483-00134282-00134572 things in my tune I might just go to how VWDHSOoTsEc-00484-00134573-00134797 to apologize since this is a good VWDHSOoTsEc-00485-00134798-00134836 lead-in VWDHSOoTsEc-00486-00134837-00135145 so we'll go to that next time and I'll VWDHSOoTsEc-00487-00135146-00135232 talk to you later VWDHSOoTsEc-00488-00135233-00135700 thank you hi guys this is Jenny Lyles VWDHSOoTsEc-00489-00135701-00135943 thank you for watching my video I'd like VWDHSOoTsEc-00490-00135944-00136093 to talk to you for a moment about my VWDHSOoTsEc-00491-00136094-00136426 best friend Cathy Malone Cathy has a VWDHSOoTsEc-00492-00136427-00136639 heart condition that she contracted from VWDHSOoTsEc-00493-00136640-00136969 a virus when she was in her 20s she's 17 VWDHSOoTsEc-00494-00136970-00137389 years past her expiration date and Cathy VWDHSOoTsEc-00495-00137390-00137572 will die if she doesn't get a heart VWDHSOoTsEc-00496-00137573-00137782 transplant and it needs to happen within VWDHSOoTsEc-00497-00137783-00137946 the next year or two VWDHSOoTsEc-00498-00137947-00138169 unfortunately she has been told by the VWDHSOoTsEc-00499-00138170-00138397 hospital where she will be getting the VWDHSOoTsEc-00500-00138398-00138625 transplant that she needs to come up VWDHSOoTsEc-00501-00138626-00139066 with a minimum of $20,000 in order to VWDHSOoTsEc-00502-00139067-00139258 prove that she can pay for her VWDHSOoTsEc-00503-00139259-00139591 anti-rejection meds over the first 18 VWDHSOoTsEc-00504-00139592-00139816 months after her transplant or they VWDHSOoTsEc-00505-00139817-00140110 won't put her on the list I'm trying to VWDHSOoTsEc-00506-00140111-00140350 save my best friend's life if you would VWDHSOoTsEc-00507-00140351-00140566 like to help me with that please go to VWDHSOoTsEc-00508-00140567-00141253 for Cathy's heart dot responsive llc.com VWDHSOoTsEc-00509-00141254-00141508 and click on the links on the right hand VWDHSOoTsEc-00510-00141509-00141751 side if you're on a desktop or towards VWDHSOoTsEc-00511-00141752-00142129 the bottom if you are on a mobile phone VWDHSOoTsEc-00512-00142130-00142543 and please donate to her GoFundMe or to VWDHSOoTsEc-00513-00142544-00142903 her PayPal so that my best friend's life VWDHSOoTsEc-00514-00142904-00142989 can be VWDHSOoTsEc-00515-00142990-00143331 saved thank you I will talk to you later VWDHSOoTsEc-00516-00143332-00143760 and don't forget again to go 200 mm dot VWDHSOoTsEc-00517-00143761-00144246 live or patreon.com backslash j li le s VWDHSOoTsEc-00518-00144247-00144414 if you like my work and you'd like to VWDHSOoTsEc-00519-00144415-00145304 support it thank you VWDHSOoTsEc-00520-00145305-00145512 you VWZrBom8t9o-00000-00000024-00000223 g'day my name's stephen hill from cfa VWZrBom8t9o-00001-00000224-00000351 fleet and protective equipment VWZrBom8t9o-00002-00000352-00000543 department today we're here to show you VWZrBom8t9o-00003-00000544-00000878 around cfo's latest standard build fcv VWZrBom8t9o-00004-00000880-00001135 also known as a field command vehicle VWZrBom8t9o-00005-00001136-00001287 these vehicles are built on a ford VWZrBom8t9o-00006-00001288-00001614 ranger xl 3.2 litre turbo diesel cab VWZrBom8t9o-00007-00001616-00001879 chassis 6-speed automatic transmission VWZrBom8t9o-00008-00001880-00002167 custom built body built by quick corp in VWZrBom8t9o-00009-00002168-00002471 leviton victoria the body is designed to VWZrBom8t9o-00010-00002472-00002655 be as loud as possible without VWZrBom8t9o-00011-00002656-00002831 compromising strength but also to VWZrBom8t9o-00012-00002832-00003031 maximize payload the layout of the VWZrBom8t9o-00013-00003032-00003247 vehicle is designed around ease of use VWZrBom8t9o-00014-00003247-00003463 for the driver and all the other crew VWZrBom8t9o-00015-00003464-00003606 all the controls for the vehicle are VWZrBom8t9o-00016-00003607-00003783 centered on one control pad in the VWZrBom8t9o-00017-00003784-00003999 center of the console when activated in VWZrBom8t9o-00018-00004000-00004222 code one green lights will come on above VWZrBom8t9o-00019-00004223-00004431 the front and rear license plate the VWZrBom8t9o-00020-00004432-00004599 purpose of the green lights is to VWZrBom8t9o-00021-00004600-00004743 indicate that you're traveling in code VWZrBom8t9o-00022-00004744-00004886 one conditions in the instance you're VWZrBom8t9o-00023-00004887-00005102 picked up on a traffic light camera the VWZrBom8t9o-00024-00005103-00005286 vehicle is fitted with two cfa tate VWZrBom8t9o-00025-00005287-00005535 radios these microphones are easily VWZrBom8t9o-00026-00005536-00005759 removed and reinstalled in the body when VWZrBom8t9o-00027-00005760-00005943 using instant management capability on VWZrBom8t9o-00028-00005944-00006102 the fire ground VWZrBom8t9o-00029-00006103-00006311 the nearside locker incorporates VWZrBom8t9o-00030-00006312-00006510 adjustable shelving white boards pull VWZrBom8t9o-00031-00006511-00006806 out work benches and storage space VWZrBom8t9o-00032-00006808-00007006 the nearside undertray locker is where VWZrBom8t9o-00033-00007008-00007151 the dual battery is housed in all VWZrBom8t9o-00034-00007152-00007342 relevant fuses and circuit breakers how VWZrBom8t9o-00035-00007343-00007567 the rear compartment is designed as free VWZrBom8t9o-00036-00007568-00007846 space for brigade and storage space the VWZrBom8t9o-00037-00007847-00008070 offside locker features the ingle fridge VWZrBom8t9o-00038-00008072-00008278 with a tilt drop down bracket when the VWZrBom8t9o-00039-00008279-00008495 fridge is slid out the fridge pivots and VWZrBom8t9o-00040-00008496-00008719 tilts down for ease of access offside VWZrBom8t9o-00041-00008720-00008959 undertray locker is spare and empty for VWZrBom8t9o-00042-00008960-00009183 brigades to stow items of choice VWZrBom8t9o-00043-00009184-00009423 the rear undertray drawer comprises of a VWZrBom8t9o-00044-00009424-00009678 magnetic whiteboard desktop storage on VWZrBom8t9o-00045-00009679-00009863 the underside and a briefing board that VWZrBom8t9o-00046-00009864-00010159 can be stored up to carry out a briefing VWZrBom8t9o-00047-00010160-00010374 other features of the fcv include VWZrBom8t9o-00048-00010375-00010631 reverse alarm and camera multiple usb VWZrBom8t9o-00049-00010632-00010895 charging points and a 12 to 240 volt VWZrBom8t9o-00050-00010896-00011095 inverter the emergency lighting package VWZrBom8t9o-00051-00011096-00011406 on the scv is 360 degree coverage and VWZrBom8t9o-00052-00011407-00011614 all features in led lighting and it's VWZrBom8t9o-00053-00011615-00011799 fitted with an engine snorkel and a tow VWZrBom8t9o-00054-00011800-00011942 bar as standard VWZrBom8t9o-00055-00011943-00012142 this is the fourth generation of fcv VWZrBom8t9o-00056-00012143-00012359 there are 75 of these currently in the VWZrBom8t9o-00057-00012360-00012684 fleet today VZHC9T9UufU-00000-00000000-00000175 hey victor i want to share my trip to VZHC9T9UufU-00001-00000176-00000383 wuhan with you what VZHC9T9UufU-00002-00000384-00000599 stay away from me we just come back from VZHC9T9UufU-00003-00000600-00000734 one VZHC9T9UufU-00004-00000735-00000983 no no no no don't worry it was three VZHC9T9UufU-00005-00000984-00001143 years ago not this year VZHC9T9UufU-00006-00001144-00001454 oh it was three years ago VZHC9T9UufU-00007-00001455-00001718 don't scare me so cheat it out let's VZHC9T9UufU-00008-00001719-00001830 check it out VZHC9T9UufU-00009-00001832-00002007 have you ever go on a trip without VZHC9T9UufU-00010-00002007-00002231 planning in today's video i'm going to VZHC9T9UufU-00011-00002232-00002334 share with you VZHC9T9UufU-00012-00002335-00002742 in july 2017 i went on the trip VZHC9T9UufU-00013-00002743-00003095 with my friend xiaoyu from wuhan VZHC9T9UufU-00014-00003096-00003367 i was living in shaman at that moment VZHC9T9UufU-00015-00003368-00003438 and VZHC9T9UufU-00016-00003439-00003663 he just visited taiwan and then stopped VZHC9T9UufU-00017-00003664-00003783 by shaman VZHC9T9UufU-00018-00003784-00004111 on his way back home to han he stayed VZHC9T9UufU-00019-00004112-00004343 at my place for one night the next VZHC9T9UufU-00020-00004344-00004519 morning i told him VZHC9T9UufU-00021-00004520-00004838 hey why don't i go with you back to one VZHC9T9UufU-00022-00004839-00005151 then we booked the tickets without seat VZHC9T9UufU-00023-00005152-00005502 it was an expected journey for me VZHC9T9UufU-00024-00005503-00005815 my very first time in my life i took the VZHC9T9UufU-00025-00005816-00005902 slow VZHC9T9UufU-00026-00005903-00006334 trend from shaman all the way to VZHC9T9UufU-00027-00006335-00006583 nanchang and then stay in nanchang for VZHC9T9UufU-00028-00006584-00006678 one night VZHC9T9UufU-00029-00006679-00006903 and then the next morning took another VZHC9T9UufU-00030-00006904-00007070 trend to VZHC9T9UufU-00031-00007072-00007398 i believe everyone knows where juan VZHC9T9UufU-00032-00007400-00007870 is because of kobe 19 the coronal virus VZHC9T9UufU-00033-00007872-00008183 and let me explain a little bit why VZHC9T9UufU-00034-00008184-00008503 this coronal virus spreads so fast VZHC9T9UufU-00035-00008504-00008831 because wuhan is the center of VZHC9T9UufU-00036-00008832-00009135 china if you look at the map of the high VZHC9T9UufU-00037-00009136-00009239 speed rail of VZHC9T9UufU-00038-00009240-00009583 china you know wuhan is right VZHC9T9UufU-00039-00009584-00009895 at the center spot so that VZHC9T9UufU-00040-00009896-00010174 there are many high-speed rail and VZHC9T9UufU-00041-00010175-00010271 trends VZHC9T9UufU-00042-00010272-00010623 makes this coronal virus spread out so VZHC9T9UufU-00043-00010624-00010919 fast and i guess you know that already VZHC9T9UufU-00044-00010920-00010951 but VZHC9T9UufU-00045-00010952-00011199 today i'm not going to talk about that VZHC9T9UufU-00046-00011200-00011399 i'm going to share with you VZHC9T9UufU-00047-00011400-00011719 my trip to han three years ago VZHC9T9UufU-00048-00011720-00012063 it was this time of the year three years VZHC9T9UufU-00049-00012064-00012110 ago VZHC9T9UufU-00050-00012111-00012446 in 2017 and VZHC9T9UufU-00051-00012447-00012774 one has a nickname called the hostile VZHC9T9UufU-00052-00012775-00012863 city VZHC9T9UufU-00053-00012863-00013230 so you know how hot it is when i visit VZHC9T9UufU-00054-00013231-00013383 rouhani this time VZHC9T9UufU-00055-00013384-00013655 of the year i don't know if anyone will VZHC9T9UufU-00056-00013656-00013703 visit VZHC9T9UufU-00057-00013704-00014083 wuhan in the future but it was a VZHC9T9UufU-00058-00014084-00014407 pleasant experience for me personally VZHC9T9UufU-00059-00014408-00014647 because i've never been to wuhan before VZHC9T9UufU-00060-00014647-00014743 that trip VZHC9T9UufU-00061-00014744-00015063 and i met xiaoyu in gym month VZHC9T9UufU-00062-00015063-00015430 in 2016 VZHC9T9UufU-00063-00015431-00015679 before the chinese new year oh by the VZHC9T9UufU-00064-00015680-00015775 way VZHC9T9UufU-00065-00015776-00015999 i interviewed xiaoyi about his VZHC9T9UufU-00066-00016000-00016079 experience VZHC9T9UufU-00067-00016080-00016286 if you want to check it out check the VZHC9T9UufU-00068-00016287-00016455 link from the cards VZHC9T9UufU-00069-00016456-00016775 and also the link below xiaoyu is a VZHC9T9UufU-00070-00016776-00017127 professional traveler with almost VZHC9T9UufU-00071-00017128-00017415 zero budget if you want to know more VZHC9T9UufU-00072-00017416-00017519 about his VZHC9T9UufU-00073-00017520-00017783 experience and his journey check the VZHC9T9UufU-00074-00017784-00017886 link below VZHC9T9UufU-00075-00017887-00018143 but that interview is in mandarin though VZHC9T9UufU-00076-00018144-00018358 and before i went to wuhan VZHC9T9UufU-00077-00018359-00018703 i had no idea about VZHC9T9UufU-00078-00018704-00019014 wuhan three towns i thought VZHC9T9UufU-00079-00019015-00019319 that was three different cities VZHC9T9UufU-00080-00019320-00019639 but after i visited with xiaori to his VZHC9T9UufU-00081-00019640-00019719 hometown VZHC9T9UufU-00082-00019720-00020047 then i know wuchang heinko VZHC9T9UufU-00083-00020048-00020367 and hanyang the three parts are VZHC9T9UufU-00084-00020368-00020871 combination of so i got the privilege to VZHC9T9UufU-00085-00020872-00021239 see a little bit about this city VZHC9T9UufU-00086-00021240-00021583 and i stayed with xiaori for like VZHC9T9UufU-00087-00021584-00021927 two or three weeks and because it was my VZHC9T9UufU-00088-00021928-00021975 first VZHC9T9UufU-00089-00021976-00022399 experience taking a long distance VZHC9T9UufU-00090-00022400-00022711 journey on the trend without seats VZHC9T9UufU-00091-00022712-00023007 so xiaomi gave me some tips and he's VZHC9T9UufU-00092-00023008-00023071 very good VZHC9T9UufU-00093-00023072-00023430 on talking to strangers and VZHC9T9UufU-00094-00023431-00023799 sneak to sit with others so he found me VZHC9T9UufU-00095-00023800-00023863 a seat VZHC9T9UufU-00096-00023864-00024127 and he went to another car to hang out VZHC9T9UufU-00097-00024128-00024167 with VZHC9T9UufU-00098-00024168-00024614 some girls he's very good on that VZHC9T9UufU-00099-00024615-00024839 and if you are familiar with the history VZHC9T9UufU-00100-00024840-00025086 of china then you probably know that VZHC9T9UufU-00101-00025087-00025407 dr sunya shen initiated VZHC9T9UufU-00102-00025408-00025734 the revolution right here VZHC9T9UufU-00103-00025735-00026031 in wu chang so that's called unchanged VZHC9T9UufU-00104-00026032-00026150 revolution VZHC9T9UufU-00105-00026151-00026487 that's how dr sunya chan overthrew VZHC9T9UufU-00106-00026488-00026823 the qing dynasty and established VZHC9T9UufU-00107-00026824-00027167 republic of china all started here VZHC9T9UufU-00108-00027168-00027551 in wuhan and of course i visited the VZHC9T9UufU-00109-00027552-00027902 gates and i went to the museum to get to VZHC9T9UufU-00110-00027904-00028087 know more about the history VZHC9T9UufU-00111-00028088-00028414 but wuhan is also famous with the VZHC9T9UufU-00112-00028416-00028751 food and they call breakfast VZHC9T9UufU-00113-00028752-00029055 it's after morning so after morning it's VZHC9T9UufU-00114-00029056-00029207 time for breakfast VZHC9T9UufU-00115-00029208-00029470 that's how they call breakfast in VZHC9T9UufU-00116-00029472-00029567 chinese VZHC9T9UufU-00117-00029568-00029935 for dao and of course xiaoyu took me to VZHC9T9UufU-00118-00029936-00030358 eat their traditional breakfast which is VZHC9T9UufU-00119-00030360-00030711 dry noodle with sesame paste it tastes VZHC9T9UufU-00120-00030712-00031055 very good it reminds me of the cool VZHC9T9UufU-00121-00031056-00031423 noodle in taiwan because they both VZHC9T9UufU-00122-00031424-00031751 add the sesame paste the difference is VZHC9T9UufU-00123-00031752-00031790 that VZHC9T9UufU-00124-00031791-00032143 there are more toppings on dry noodles VZHC9T9UufU-00125-00032144-00032423 and it's hot because it's very dry so VZHC9T9UufU-00126-00032424-00032567 you need to VZHC9T9UufU-00127-00032568-00032911 eat with plum tea VZHC9T9UufU-00128-00032912-00033311 or some other drinks so later on i moved VZHC9T9UufU-00129-00033312-00033407 to VZHC9T9UufU-00130-00033408-00033695 shenzhen and i found the restaurant VZHC9T9UufU-00131-00033696-00033751 which VZHC9T9UufU-00132-00033752-00034055 sells uh noodles so i eat VZHC9T9UufU-00133-00034056-00034399 that once a while but it's more VZHC9T9UufU-00134-00034400-00034502 expensive VZHC9T9UufU-00135-00034503-00034783 than in hunt and of course i went to VZHC9T9UufU-00136-00034784-00034846 visit VZHC9T9UufU-00137-00034847-00035143 the long river and get to know about the VZHC9T9UufU-00138-00035144-00036587 city more VZHC9T9UufU-00139-00036588-00036815 [Music] VZHC9T9UufU-00140-00036816-00037062 and i get to know some friends who lives VZHC9T9UufU-00141-00037063-00037167 in wuhan VZHC9T9UufU-00142-00037168-00037511 it was pleasant journey speaking of the VZHC9T9UufU-00143-00037512-00037839 wuhan dry noodle i feel hungry now VZHC9T9UufU-00144-00037840-00038207 i want to eat one dry noodle so let's go VZHC9T9UufU-00145-00038208-00038518 so here i am at the ohan VZHC9T9UufU-00146-00038519-00039095 dry noodle so here's the menu VZHC9T9UufU-00147-00039096-00039415 la bye you guys VZHC9T9UufU-00148-00039416-00039799 so if you ever stop by taichung then VZHC9T9UufU-00149-00039800-00039990 don't forget to come here and check it VZHC9T9UufU-00150-00039991-00040167 out the boss is VZHC9T9UufU-00151-00040168-00040502 originally from wuhan so VZHC9T9UufU-00152-00040503-00040895 it's very traditional and classic VZHC9T9UufU-00153-00040896-00041271 dry noodle so i'm going to enjoy my VZHC9T9UufU-00154-00041272-00041574 noodles i'll see you in the next video VZHC9T9UufU-00155-00041575-00041846 i'll put the address of this one dry VZHC9T9UufU-00156-00041847-00041983 noodle restaurant VZHC9T9UufU-00157-00041984-00043898 so i'll see you in the next video adios VZHC9T9UufU-00158-00043899-00044568 [Music] VZHC9T9UufU-00159-00044569-00044883 [Applause] VZHC9T9UufU-00160-00044884-00045041 so VZHC9T9UufU-00161-00045042-00047683 [Music] 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well here's some VgrTztpPY18-00002-00000567-00000829 more amazing basketball freestyle in VgrTztpPY18-00003-00000830-00001356 this video keep watching VgrTztpPY18-00005-00004627-00005736 [Music] VgrTztpPY18-00006-00005737-00006010 that must be Skippy investing not VgrTztpPY18-00007-00006011-00006498 thinking VgrTztpPY18-00008-00006498-00006870 hey VgrTztpPY18-00009-00006870-00008053 metallus even Luna camera VgrTztpPY18-00010-00008054-00009800 [Music] VgrTztpPY18-00011-00009801-00012226 [Music] VgrTztpPY18-00012-00012227-00012527 like ViWrnQ6gA1M-00000-00000023-00000286 two terms traditionally used in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00001-00000287-00000473 Islamic world are sometimes translated ViWrnQ6gA1M-00002-00000474-00000802 as philosophy full sarva literally ViWrnQ6gA1M-00003-00000803-00001097 philosophy which refers to philosophy as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00004-00001098-00001312 well as logic mathematics and physics ViWrnQ6gA1M-00005-00001313-00001664 and Kalam literally speech which refers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00006-00001664-00001838 to a rationalist form of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00007-00001839-00002222 theology early Islamic philosophy began ViWrnQ6gA1M-00008-00002223-00002306 with al-kindi ViWrnQ6gA1M-00009-00002307-00002498 in the second century of the Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00010-00002499-00002747 calendar early 9th century CE AE and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00011-00002748-00002983 ended with Averroes even Rushdie in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00012-00002984-00003247 6th century our late 12th century CE II ViWrnQ6gA1M-00013-00003248-00003494 broadly coinciding with the period known ViWrnQ6gA1M-00014-00003495-00003779 as the Golden Age of Islam the death of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00015-00003779-00003970 Averroes effectively marked the end of a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00016-00003971-00004138 particular discipline of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00017-00004139-00004304 philosophy usually called the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00018-00004305-00004472 Peripatetic Arabic school and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00019-00004473-00004663 philosophical activity declined ViWrnQ6gA1M-00020-00004664-00004859 significantly in Western Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00021-00004860-00005066 countries such as Islamic Iberia in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00022-00005067-00005375 North Africa Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00023-00005376-00005572 persisted for much longer in Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-00024-00005573-00005813 Eastern countries in particular Safavid ViWrnQ6gA1M-00025-00005814-00006050 Persia ottoman and muggle empires where ViWrnQ6gA1M-00026-00006051-00006259 several schools of philosophy continued ViWrnQ6gA1M-00027-00006260-00006317 to flourish ViWrnQ6gA1M-00028-00006318-00006563 abbis an ism Averell ism illumination ViWrnQ6gA1M-00029-00006564-00006775 astre lhasa fee mystical philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00030-00006776-00007016 transcendent theosophy and his forehand ViWrnQ6gA1M-00031-00007017-00007352 philosophy even Khaldun in his mood amar ViWrnQ6gA1M-00032-00007353-00007556 made important contributions to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00033-00007556-00007817 philosophy of history interest in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00034-00007818-00008027 Islamic philosophy revived during the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00035-00008028-00008342 Nara awakening movement in the late 19th ViWrnQ6gA1M-00036-00008343-00008591 and early 20th centuries and continues ViWrnQ6gA1M-00037-00008592-00008921 to the present day Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00038-00008922-00009098 had a major impact in Christian Europe ViWrnQ6gA1M-00039-00009099-00009296 where translation of Arabic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00040-00009297-00009542 philosophical texts into Latin led to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00041-00009543-00009731 the transformation of almost all ViWrnQ6gA1M-00042-00009732-00009923 philosophical disciplines in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00043-00009924-00010241 medieval Latin world with a particularly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00044-00010242-00010456 strong influence of Muslim philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00045-00010457-00010660 being felt in natural philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00046-00010661-00011452 psychology and metaphysics topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00047-00011453-00012080 introduction Islamic philosophy refers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00048-00012081-00012289 to philosophy produced in an Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00049-00012290-00012662 Society Islamic philosophy is a generic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00050-00012663-00012866 term that can be defined and used in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00051-00012866-00013163 different ways in its broadest sense it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00052-00013163-00013363 means the worldview of Islam as to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00053-00013365-00013583 right from the Islamic texts concerning ViWrnQ6gA1M-00054-00013584-00013772 the creation of the universe in the will ViWrnQ6gA1M-00055-00013772-00014033 of the Creator in another sense it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00056-00014034-00014219 refers to any of the schools of thought ViWrnQ6gA1M-00057-00014219-00014422 that flourished under the Islamic empire ViWrnQ6gA1M-00058-00014423-00014588 or in the shadow of the Arab Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00059-00014588-00014930 culture an Islamic civilization in its ViWrnQ6gA1M-00060-00014931-00015146 narrowest sense it is a translation of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00061-00015147-00015325 false upper meaning those particular ViWrnQ6gA1M-00062-00015326-00015538 schools of thought that most reflect the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00063-00015540-00015703 influence of Greek systems of philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00064-00015704-00015977 such as Neoplatonism and Aristotelian ViWrnQ6gA1M-00065-00015978-00016309 ISM it is not necessarily concerned with ViWrnQ6gA1M-00066-00016310-00016508 religious issues nor exclusively ViWrnQ6gA1M-00067-00016509-00016811 produced by Muslims in order all schools ViWrnQ6gA1M-00068-00016812-00016987 have fought within Islam and myth the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00069-00016988-00017153 usefulness or legitimacy of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00070-00017154-00017453 philosophical inquiry some argue that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00071-00017454-00017656 there is no indication that the limited ViWrnQ6gA1M-00072-00017657-00017858 knowledge and experience of humans can ViWrnQ6gA1M-00073-00017859-00018146 lead to truth it is also important to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00074-00018147-00018449 observe that while reason AQL is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00075-00018450-00018647 sometimes recognized as a source of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00076-00018648-00018839 Islamic law this may have a totally ViWrnQ6gA1M-00077-00018840-00019061 different meaning from reason in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00078-00019062-00019427 philosophy the historiography of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00079-00019428-00019661 philosophy is marked by disputes as to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00080-00019662-00019814 how the subject should be properly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00081-00019815-00020062 interpreted some of the key issues ViWrnQ6gA1M-00082-00020063-00020278 involved the comparative importance of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00083-00020279-00020492 Eastern intellectuals such as even seen ViWrnQ6gA1M-00084-00020493-00020578 are Avicenna ViWrnQ6gA1M-00085-00020579-00020765 and of Western thinkers such as even ViWrnQ6gA1M-00086-00020766-00020975 Rushdie and also whether Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00087-00020976-00021203 philosophy can be read at face value or ViWrnQ6gA1M-00088-00021204-00021361 should be interpreted in an esoteric ViWrnQ6gA1M-00089-00021362-00021671 fashion supporters of the latter thesis ViWrnQ6gA1M-00090-00021672-00021928 like Leo Strauss maintained that Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00091-00021929-00022130 philosophers wrote so as to conceal ViWrnQ6gA1M-00092-00022131-00022297 their true meaning in order to avoid ViWrnQ6gA1M-00093-00022298-00022528 religious persecution but scholars such ViWrnQ6gA1M-00094-00022529-00023267 as Oliver Lehman disagree topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00095-00023268-00023719 formative influences ViWrnQ6gA1M-00096-00023720-00024021 the main sources of classical or early ViWrnQ6gA1M-00097-00024022-00024225 Islamic philosophy are the religion of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00098-00024226-00024468 Islam itself especially ideas derived ViWrnQ6gA1M-00099-00024469-00024680 and interpreted from the Koran and Greek ViWrnQ6gA1M-00100-00024681-00024858 philosophy which the early Muslims ViWrnQ6gA1M-00101-00024859-00025097 inherited as a result of conquests along ViWrnQ6gA1M-00102-00025098-00025322 with pre-islamic Indian philosophy and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00103-00025323-00025599 Persian philosophy many of the early ViWrnQ6gA1M-00104-00025600-00025775 philosophical debates centered around ViWrnQ6gA1M-00105-00025776-00025986 reconciling religion and reason the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00106-00025987-00026699 latter exemplified by Greek philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00107-00026700-00027293 topic opposition to philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00108-00027294-00027552 some Muslims oppose the idea of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00109-00027552-00027807 philosophy as un-islamic the popular ViWrnQ6gA1M-00110-00027808-00028037 Salafist website is lambda dot info ViWrnQ6gA1M-00111-00028038-00028287 supervised by sheikh mohammed saleh al ViWrnQ6gA1M-00112-00028288-00028490 managers of saudi arabia declares ViWrnQ6gA1M-00113-00028491-00028871 philosophy to be an alien entity the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00114-00028872-00029106 terminology of Islamic philosophy did ViWrnQ6gA1M-00115-00029107-00029295 not emerge is a branch of knowledge that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00116-00029295-00029483 is taught in the curriculum of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00117-00029485-00029670 studies until it was introduced by ViWrnQ6gA1M-00118-00029670-00029915 Sheikh Mustafa a vowel Rosie the Sheikh ViWrnQ6gA1M-00119-00029916-00030150 of al-azhar as a reaction to Western ViWrnQ6gA1M-00120-00030151-00030369 attacks on Islam based on the idea that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00121-00030370-00030705 Islam has no philosophy but the fact of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00122-00030706-00030885 the matter is that philosophy is an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00123-00030886-00031212 alien entity in the body of Islam the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00124-00031213-00031452 fatwa claims that the majority of Fuuka ViWrnQ6gA1M-00125-00031452-00031683 had experts in fear have stated that it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00126-00031683-00031905 is haram to study philosophy and list ViWrnQ6gA1M-00127-00031906-00032292 some of these even nijem panneti writing ViWrnQ6gA1M-00128-00032293-00032639 in our Ashbaugh Warrell nazim al dotty ViWrnQ6gA1M-00129-00032641-00033030 Maliki said in al-shara al Kabeer al de ViWrnQ6gA1M-00130-00033031-00033412 su Chi in his heart to 170 fourths ViWrnQ6gA1M-00131-00033413-00033780 Zecharia al ansari Shafi in ASN al ViWrnQ6gA1M-00132-00033781-00034271 Matala for 180 seconds Alba UT Han poly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00133-00034272-00034656 said in cash a foul Qi naa 3:30 fourths ViWrnQ6gA1M-00134-00034657-00034899 as Lanka quotes albers Ali who declares ViWrnQ6gA1M-00135-00034900-00035223 that if the four branches are philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00136-00035224-00035511 geometry and mathematics logic theology ViWrnQ6gA1M-00137-00035512-00035751 and Natural Sciences some of the Natural ViWrnQ6gA1M-00138-00035752-00036057 Sciences go against Sharia islam and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00139-00036058-00036365 truth and that except for medicine there ViWrnQ6gA1M-00140-00036366-00036689 is no need for the study of nature mani ViWrnQ6gA1M-00141-00036690-00036900 hammered al Juhani a member of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00142-00036901-00037039 Consultative Council and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00143-00037040-00037218 general director world assembly of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00144-00037219-00037537 Muslim youth is quoted as declaring that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00145-00037538-00037720 because philosophy does not follow the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00146-00037721-00038040 moral guidelines of the Sunna philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00147-00038041-00038302 as defined by the Philosopher's is one ViWrnQ6gA1M-00148-00038303-00038499 of the most dangerous falsehoods and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00149-00038500-00038701 most vicious in fighting faith and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00150-00038702-00038943 religion on the basis of logic which it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00151-00038944-00039202 is very easy to use to confuse people in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00152-00039203-00039430 the name of Reason interpretation and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00153-00039431-00039627 metaphor that distort the religious ViWrnQ6gA1M-00154-00039628-00040012 texts eben Abbey Ali's a commentator on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00155-00040013-00040105 our taharoa ViWrnQ6gA1M-00156-00040106-00040293 condemns philosophers as the ones who ViWrnQ6gA1M-00157-00040294-00040596 most deny the last day in its events in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00158-00040597-00040795 their view paradise and hell are no more ViWrnQ6gA1M-00159-00040796-00040933 than parables for the masses to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00160-00040934-00041143 understand but they have no reality ViWrnQ6gA1M-00161-00041144-00041920 beyond people's minds topic early ViWrnQ6gA1M-00162-00041921-00042490 Islamic philosophy in early Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00163-00042491-00042724 thought which refers to philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00164-00042725-00042957 during the Islamic Golden Age ViWrnQ6gA1M-00165-00042958-00043162 traditionally dated between the eighth ViWrnQ6gA1M-00166-00043163-00043387 and twelfth centuries two main currents ViWrnQ6gA1M-00167-00043388-00043515 may be distinguished ViWrnQ6gA1M-00168-00043516-00043792 the first is Kalam which mainly dealt ViWrnQ6gA1M-00169-00043793-00044008 with Islamic theological questions and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00170-00044009-00044245 the other is full Safa which was founded ViWrnQ6gA1M-00171-00044246-00044467 on interpretations of Aristotelian ISM ViWrnQ6gA1M-00172-00044468-00044749 and Neoplatonism they were attempts by ViWrnQ6gA1M-00173-00044750-00044932 later philosophers theologians and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00174-00044933-00045175 harmonizing both trends notably by eben ViWrnQ6gA1M-00175-00045176-00045220 Cena ViWrnQ6gA1M-00176-00045221-00045421 Avicenna who founded the school of a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00177-00045422-00045667 person ism even Rushdie averroes who ViWrnQ6gA1M-00178-00045668-00045846 founded the school of aviary ISM and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00179-00045847-00046087 others such as eben al-haytham Al Hassan ViWrnQ6gA1M-00180-00046088-00047248 and abu rayhan al biruni topic Kalam ViWrnQ6gA1M-00181-00047249-00047515 I am el Kalam Arabic Lemelin is the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00182-00047516-00047677 philosophy that seeks Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00183-00047678-00047890 theological principles through dialectic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00184-00047891-00048146 in Arabic the word literally means ViWrnQ6gA1M-00185-00048147-00048465 speech one of first debates was that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00186-00048466-00048655 between partisans of the car dark you ViWrnQ6gA1M-00187-00048656-00048940 demeaning fate who affirmed free will ViWrnQ6gA1M-00188-00048941-00049239 and the Jabbar i'ts jeer meaning force ViWrnQ6gA1M-00189-00049240-00049590 constraint who believed in fatalism at ViWrnQ6gA1M-00190-00049591-00049882 the second century of the hijra a new ViWrnQ6gA1M-00191-00049883-00050089 movement arose in the theological school ViWrnQ6gA1M-00192-00050090-00050440 of Basra Iraq a pupil of husana Basra ViWrnQ6gA1M-00193-00050441-00050655 wazzle I Bernardo left the group when he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00194-00050656-00050839 disagreed with his teacher on whether a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00195-00050840-00051033 Muslim who has committed a major sin ViWrnQ6gA1M-00196-00051034-00051327 invalidates his faith he systematized ViWrnQ6gA1M-00197-00051328-00051550 the radical opinions of preceding sects ViWrnQ6gA1M-00198-00051551-00051714 particularly those of the Carter rights ViWrnQ6gA1M-00199-00051715-00051982 and Jabbar rights this new school was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00200-00051983-00052152 called moot as a light from ever Saleh ViWrnQ6gA1M-00201-00052153-00052482 to separate oneself the mood si lights ViWrnQ6gA1M-00202-00052483-00052660 looked in towards a strict rationalism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00203-00052661-00052888 with which to interpret Islamic doctrine ViWrnQ6gA1M-00204-00052889-00053137 their attempt was one of the first to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00205-00053138-00053442 pursue a rational theology in Islam they ViWrnQ6gA1M-00206-00053444-00053629 were however severely criticised by ViWrnQ6gA1M-00207-00053629-00053863 other Islamic philosophers both maturita ViWrnQ6gA1M-00208-00053864-00054160 Senesh rates the great a Shiite scholar ViWrnQ6gA1M-00209-00054161-00054436 Fayed Dino Rossi wrote the work out muta ViWrnQ6gA1M-00210-00054437-00054681 column and feii oml Kalam against the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00211-00054682-00055012 motors a lights in later times Kalam was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00212-00055013-00055366 used to mean simply theology ie the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00213-00055366-00055566 duties of the heart as opposed to or in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00214-00055567-00055801 conjunction with thick jurisprudence the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00215-00055802-00056846 duties of the body topic full suffer ViWrnQ6gA1M-00216-00056847-00057136 full supper is a Greek word meaning ViWrnQ6gA1M-00217-00057137-00057391 philosophy the Greek pronunciation ViWrnQ6gA1M-00218-00057391-00057671 philosophy er became full server from ViWrnQ6gA1M-00219-00057672-00057884 the 9th century onward due to caliph ViWrnQ6gA1M-00220-00057885-00058088 al-ma'mun and his successor ancient ViWrnQ6gA1M-00221-00058089-00058295 Greek philosophy was introduced among ViWrnQ6gA1M-00222-00058296-00058454 the Arabs in the Peripatetic school ViWrnQ6gA1M-00223-00058454-00058769 began to find able representatives among ViWrnQ6gA1M-00224-00058770-00059063 them were al-kindi al Farabi Avicenna ViWrnQ6gA1M-00225-00059064-00059372 and Averroes another trend represented ViWrnQ6gA1M-00226-00059373-00059540 by the brethren of purity used ViWrnQ6gA1M-00227-00059541-00059753 Aristotelian language to expound a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00228-00059754-00059948 fundamentally Neoplatonic and neo ViWrnQ6gA1M-00229-00059949-00060272 Pythagorean worldview during the Abbasid ViWrnQ6gA1M-00230-00060273-00060479 Caliphate a number of thinkers and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00231-00060479-00060683 scientists some of them had adopts ViWrnQ6gA1M-00232-00060684-00060911 Muslims or non-muslims played a role in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00233-00060912-00061094 transmitting Greek into another ViWrnQ6gA1M-00234-00061095-00061291 pre-islamic knowledge to the Christian ViWrnQ6gA1M-00235-00061292-00061538 West they contributed to making ViWrnQ6gA1M-00236-00061539-00061804 Aristotle known in Christian Europe free ViWrnQ6gA1M-00237-00061805-00062092 speculative thinkers Al Farabi Avicenna ViWrnQ6gA1M-00238-00062094-00062336 an alkene d combined our state arianism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00239-00062337-00062537 and Neoplatonism with other ideas ViWrnQ6gA1M-00240-00062538-00063299 introduced through islam topic and of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00241-00063300-00063854 the Classical period by the 12th century ViWrnQ6gA1M-00242-00063854-00064112 Kalam attacked by both the philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00243-00064113-00064286 and the Orthodox perished for lack of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00244-00064287-00064642 champions at the same time however full ViWrnQ6gA1M-00245-00064644-00064829 suffer came under serious critical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00246-00064829-00065092 scrutiny the most devastating attack ViWrnQ6gA1M-00247-00065094-00065309 came from al-ghazali who's worked her ViWrnQ6gA1M-00248-00065310-00065528 Harford our philosopher the incoherence ViWrnQ6gA1M-00249-00065529-00065711 of the Philosopher's attacked two main ViWrnQ6gA1M-00250-00065712-00065897 arguments of the Peripatetic school ViWrnQ6gA1M-00251-00065898-00066146 Averroes Maimonides contemporary was one ViWrnQ6gA1M-00252-00066147-00066350 of the last of the islamic peripatetic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00253-00066351-00066515 s-- and set out to defend the views of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00254-00066516-00066680 the false sufferer against al-ghazali's ViWrnQ6gA1M-00255-00066681-00066983 criticism the theories of eben Rushdie ViWrnQ6gA1M-00256-00066984-00067169 do not differ fundamentally from those ViWrnQ6gA1M-00257-00067170-00067352 of eben Barger and eben to fail ViWrnQ6gA1M-00258-00067353-00067502 who only follow the teachings of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00259-00067503-00067799 Avicenna and Al Farabi like all Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00260-00067800-00068009 peripatetic averroes admits the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00261-00068010-00068201 hypothesis of the intelligence of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00262-00068202-00068414 spheres and the hypothesis of universal ViWrnQ6gA1M-00263-00068415-00068594 emanation through which motion is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00264-00068595-00068804 communicated from place to place to all ViWrnQ6gA1M-00265-00068805-00068993 parts of the universe as far as the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00266-00068994-00069260 supreme world hypotheses which in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00267-00069261-00069470 mind of the Arabic philosophers did away ViWrnQ6gA1M-00268-00069471-00069680 with the dualism involved in Aristotle's ViWrnQ6gA1M-00269-00069681-00069860 doctrine of pure energy in eternal ViWrnQ6gA1M-00270-00069861-00069913 matter ViWrnQ6gA1M-00271-00069914-00070193 but while Al Farabi Avicenna ViWrnQ6gA1M-00272-00070194-00070331 and other Persian and Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-00273-00070332-00070556 philosophers hurried so to speak over ViWrnQ6gA1M-00274-00070557-00070727 subjects that trenched on traditional ViWrnQ6gA1M-00275-00070728-00070937 beliefs eben Rushdie delighted in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00276-00070938-00071051 dwelling upon them with full ViWrnQ6gA1M-00277-00071052-00071213 particularity in stress ViWrnQ6gA1M-00278-00071214-00071561 thus he says not only is matter eternal ViWrnQ6gA1M-00279-00071562-00071777 but form is potentially inherent in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00280-00071778-00072017 matter otherwise it were a creation acts ViWrnQ6gA1M-00281-00072018-00072695 Nilo monk male Anja's P 444 according to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00282-00072696-00072902 this theory therefore the existence of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00283-00072903-00073112 this world is not only a possibility as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00284-00073113-00073846 Avicenna declared but also a necessity ViWrnQ6gA1M-00285-00073847-00074561 topic logic in early Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00286-00074562-00074816 logic played an important role Sharia ViWrnQ6gA1M-00287-00074817-00075041 Islamic law placed importance on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00288-00075042-00075260 formulating standards of argument which ViWrnQ6gA1M-00289-00075261-00075497 gave rise to a novel approach to logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00290-00075498-00075701 in Kalam but this approach was later ViWrnQ6gA1M-00291-00075702-00075956 displaced by ideas from Greek philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00292-00075957-00076154 and Hellenistic philosophy with the rise ViWrnQ6gA1M-00293-00076155-00076349 of the moot easily philosophers who ViWrnQ6gA1M-00294-00076350-00076640 highly valued Aristotle's or vennen the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00295-00076641-00076859 works of Hellenistic influenced Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00296-00076860-00077012 philosophers were crucial in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00297-00077013-00077213 reception of Aristotelian logic in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00298-00077214-00077369 medieval Europe along with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00299-00077370-00077531 commentaries on the organ and by ViWrnQ6gA1M-00300-00077532-00077891 averroes the works of Al Farabi Avicenna ViWrnQ6gA1M-00301-00077892-00078125 al-ghazali and other Muslim logicians ViWrnQ6gA1M-00302-00078126-00078323 who often criticized and corrected ViWrnQ6gA1M-00303-00078324-00078551 Aristotelian logic and introduced their ViWrnQ6gA1M-00304-00078552-00078773 own forms of logic also played a central ViWrnQ6gA1M-00305-00078774-00078986 role in the subsequent development of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00306-00078987-00079264 European logic during the Renaissance ViWrnQ6gA1M-00307-00079265-00079436 according to the route Lynch ViWrnQ6gA1M-00308-00079437-00079748 encyclopedia of philosophy for the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00309-00079749-00079997 Islamic philosophers logic included not ViWrnQ6gA1M-00310-00079998-00080183 only the study of formal patterns of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00311-00080184-00080357 inference and their validity but also ViWrnQ6gA1M-00312-00080358-00080540 elements of the philosophy of language ViWrnQ6gA1M-00313-00080541-00080738 and even of epistemology and metaphysics ViWrnQ6gA1M-00314-00080739-00081071 the cause of territorial disputes with ViWrnQ6gA1M-00315-00081072-00081269 the Arabic primary ins Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00316-00081270-00081452 philosophers were very interested in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00317-00081453-00081593 working out the relationship between ViWrnQ6gA1M-00318-00081594-00081845 logic and language and they devoted much ViWrnQ6gA1M-00319-00081846-00081998 discussion to the question of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00320-00081999-00082187 subject matter and aims of logic in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00321-00082188-00082475 relation to reasoning and speech in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00322-00082476-00082706 area of formal logical analysis they ViWrnQ6gA1M-00323-00082707-00082892 elaborated upon the theory of terms ViWrnQ6gA1M-00324-00082893-00083090 propositions and syllogisms is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00325-00083091-00083330 formulated in Aristotle's categories to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00326-00083331-00083553 interpretation a and prior analytic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00327-00083554-00083817 it's in the spirit of Aristotle they ViWrnQ6gA1M-00328-00083818-00084012 considered the syllogism to be the form ViWrnQ6gA1M-00329-00084013-00084188 to which all rational argumentation ViWrnQ6gA1M-00330-00084189-00084399 could be reduced and they regarded ViWrnQ6gA1M-00331-00084400-00084603 syllogistic theory as the focal point of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00332-00084604-00084909 logic even poetics was considered as a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00333-00084910-00085134 syllogistic art in some fashion by most ViWrnQ6gA1M-00334-00085135-00085424 of the major Islamic Aristotelian 's ViWrnQ6gA1M-00335-00085425-00085674 important developments made by Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-00336-00085675-00085874 logicians included the development of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00337-00085875-00086162 Abyssinian logic as a replacement of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00338-00086163-00086444 Aristotelian logic a vassilis system of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00339-00086445-00086600 logic was responsible for the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00340-00086601-00086787 introduction of hypothetical syllogism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00341-00086788-00087042 temporal modal logic and inductive logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00342-00087043-00087338 other important developments in early ViWrnQ6gA1M-00343-00087339-00087512 Islamic philosophy include the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00344-00087513-00087680 development of a strict science of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00345-00087681-00087950 citation the isnad or backing and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00346-00087951-00088124 development of a method to dispute ViWrnQ6gA1M-00347-00088125-00088347 claims the IT had which was generally ViWrnQ6gA1M-00348-00088348-00089121 applied to many types of questions topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00349-00089122-00089778 logic in Islamic law in theology only ViWrnQ6gA1M-00350-00089779-00090009 forms of analogical reasoning inductive ViWrnQ6gA1M-00351-00090010-00090228 reasoning and categorical syllogism were ViWrnQ6gA1M-00352-00090229-00090441 introduced in feek Islamic jurisprudence ViWrnQ6gA1M-00353-00090442-00090753 Sharia and Kalam Islamic theology from ViWrnQ6gA1M-00354-00090754-00090950 the 7th century with the process of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00355-00090951-00090996 keyers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00356-00090997-00091193 before the Arabic translations of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00357-00091194-00091497 Aristotle's works later during the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00358-00091498-00091700 Islamic Golden Age there was debate ViWrnQ6gA1M-00359-00091701-00091959 among Islamic philosophers logicians and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00360-00091960-00092156 theologians over whether the term keyers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00361-00092157-00092421 refers to analogical reasoning inductive ViWrnQ6gA1M-00362-00092422-00092732 reasoning or categorical syllogism some ViWrnQ6gA1M-00363-00092733-00092918 Islamic scholars argued that keyers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00364-00092919-00093113 refers to inductive reasoning even ViWrnQ6gA1M-00365-00093114-00093557 Haysom 9 94 106 4 disagreed arguing that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00366-00093558-00093750 keyers does not refer to inductive ViWrnQ6gA1M-00367-00093751-00094017 reasoning but to categorical syllogism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00368-00094018-00094215 in a real sense and analogical reasoning ViWrnQ6gA1M-00369-00094216-00094517 in a metaphorical sense on the other ViWrnQ6gA1M-00370-00094518-00094896 hand al-ghazali 1058 2 11 11 and in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00371-00094897-00095103 modern times abu muhammad assumed ViWrnQ6gA1M-00372-00095104-00095334 al-maqdis he argued that pious refers to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00373-00095335-00095586 analogical reasoning in a real sense and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00374-00095587-00095790 categorical syllogism in a metaphorical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00375-00095791-00096105 sense other Islamic scholars at the time ViWrnQ6gA1M-00376-00096106-00096312 however argued that the term keyers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00377-00096313-00096557 refers to both analogical reasoning and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00378-00096558-00097254 categorical syllogism in a real sense ViWrnQ6gA1M-00379-00097255-00097888 topic Aristotelian logic the first ViWrnQ6gA1M-00380-00097889-00098113 original arabic writings on logic were ViWrnQ6gA1M-00381-00098114-00098484 produced by al Kindi al kindess 805 to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00382-00098485-00098761 873 who produced a summary on earlier ViWrnQ6gA1M-00383-00098762-00098905 logic up to his time ViWrnQ6gA1M-00384-00098906-00099160 the first writings on logic with non ViWrnQ6gA1M-00385-00099161-00099397 Aristotelian elements was produced by Al ViWrnQ6gA1M-00386-00099398-00099457 Farabi ViWrnQ6gA1M-00387-00099458-00099907 al farabi 873 to 950 who discussed the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00388-00099908-00100117 topics of future contingents the number ViWrnQ6gA1M-00389-00100118-00100285 and relation of the categories the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00390-00100286-00100486 relation between logic and grammar and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00391-00100487-00100801 non Aristotelian forms of inference he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00392-00100802-00101029 is also credited for categorizing logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00393-00101030-00101164 into two separate groups ViWrnQ6gA1M-00394-00101165-00101446 the first being idea and the second ViWrnQ6gA1M-00395-00101447-00102019 being proof Averroes 11:26 211 98 author ViWrnQ6gA1M-00396-00102020-00102235 of the most elaborate commentaries on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00397-00102236-00102463 Aristotelian logic was the last major ViWrnQ6gA1M-00398-00102464-00103276 logician from Al Andalus topic avicennia ViWrnQ6gA1M-00399-00103277-00103614 n-- logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00400-00103615-00104008 Avicenna 9 800 103 7 developed his own ViWrnQ6gA1M-00401-00104008-00104329 system of logic Nonna's avicennia logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00402-00104330-00104581 as an alternative to Aristotelian logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00403-00104582-00104917 by the 12th century Abyssinian logic had ViWrnQ6gA1M-00404-00104918-00105118 replaced Aristotelian logic is the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00405-00105119-00105331 dominant system of logic in the Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00406-00105332-00105505 world the first criticisms of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00407-00105506-00105703 Aristotelian logic were written by a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00408-00105704-00106033 person at 9/8 Oh 103 7 who produced ViWrnQ6gA1M-00409-00106033-00106233 independent treatises on logic rather ViWrnQ6gA1M-00410-00106234-00106516 than commentaries he criticized the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00411-00106517-00106702 logical school of Baghdad for their ViWrnQ6gA1M-00412-00106703-00106993 devotion to Aristotle at the time he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00413-00106994-00107191 investigated the theory of definition ViWrnQ6gA1M-00414-00107192-00107317 and classification and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00415-00107318-00107503 quantification of the predicates of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00416-00107504-00107719 categorical propositions and developed ViWrnQ6gA1M-00417-00107720-00107979 an original theory on temporal modal ViWrnQ6gA1M-00418-00107980-00108229 syllogism its premises included ViWrnQ6gA1M-00419-00108230-00108607 modifiers such as at all times at most ViWrnQ6gA1M-00420-00108608-00109108 times and at some time while a verse in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00421-00109108-00109444 at 9 801 O 3 7 often relied on deductive ViWrnQ6gA1M-00422-00109445-00109639 reasoning in philosophy he used a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00423-00109640-00109911 different approach in medicine even Sina ViWrnQ6gA1M-00424-00109913-00110074 contributed inventively to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00425-00110075-00110281 development of inductive logic which he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00426-00110282-00110344 used to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00427-00110345-00110602 near the idea of a syndrome in his ViWrnQ6gA1M-00428-00110603-00110824 medical writings Avicenna was the first ViWrnQ6gA1M-00429-00110825-00111001 to describe the methods of agreement ViWrnQ6gA1M-00430-00111002-00111214 difference and concomitant variation ViWrnQ6gA1M-00431-00111215-00111376 which are critical to inductive logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00432-00111377-00111613 and the scientific method eben Haysom ViWrnQ6gA1M-00433-00111614-00111970 994 106 4 wrote the scope of logic in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00434-00111971-00112144 which he stressed on the importance of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00435-00112145-00112291 sense perception as a source of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00436-00112292-00112354 knowledge ViWrnQ6gA1M-00437-00112355-00112789 al-ghazali our gazel 1058 to 1111 had an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00438-00112790-00112996 important influence on the use of logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00439-00112997-00113211 in theology making use of Avicenna and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00440-00113213-00113494 logic in kalam despite the logical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00441-00113495-00113740 sophistication of al-ghazali the rise of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00442-00113741-00113905 the ashari school in the 12th century ViWrnQ6gA1M-00443-00113906-00114199 slowly suffocated original work on logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00444-00114200-00114373 in much of the Islamic world though ViWrnQ6gA1M-00445-00114374-00114568 logic continued to be studied in some ViWrnQ6gA1M-00446-00114569-00114769 Islamic regions such as Persia in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00447-00114770-00115246 Levant fak held in al-razi B 11:49 ViWrnQ6gA1M-00448-00115247-00115552 criticized Aristotle's first figure and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00449-00115553-00115764 developed a form of inductive logic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00450-00115765-00115975 foreshadowing the system of inductive ViWrnQ6gA1M-00451-00115976-00116269 logic developed by John Stuart Mill 1806 ViWrnQ6gA1M-00452-00116270-00116685 to 1873 systematic refutations of Greek ViWrnQ6gA1M-00453-00116686-00116859 logic were written by the illumination ViWrnQ6gA1M-00454-00116860-00117168 aschool founded by Shahabuddin sir woody ViWrnQ6gA1M-00455-00117169-00117531 1155 to 1191 who developed the idea of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00456-00117532-00117829 decisive necessity an important ViWrnQ6gA1M-00457-00117830-00118011 innovation in the history of logical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00458-00118013-00118231 philosophical speculation and in favor ViWrnQ6gA1M-00459-00118232-00119710 of inductive reasoning topic metaphysics ViWrnQ6gA1M-00460-00119711-00120008 topic cosmological and ontological ViWrnQ6gA1M-00461-00120008-00120573 arguments aalverson is proof for the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00462-00120574-00120738 existence of God was the first ViWrnQ6gA1M-00463-00120739-00120963 ontological argument which he proposed ViWrnQ6gA1M-00464-00120964-00121143 in the metaphysics section of the book ViWrnQ6gA1M-00465-00121144-00121419 of healing this was the first attempt of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00466-00121420-00121640 using the method of a priori proof which ViWrnQ6gA1M-00467-00121641-00121901 utilizes intuition and reason alone ViWrnQ6gA1M-00468-00121902-00122165 Everson is proof of God's existence is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00469-00122166-00122358 unique in that it can be classified as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00470-00122358-00122556 both a cosmological argument and an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00471-00122557-00122765 ontological argument it is ontological ViWrnQ6gA1M-00472-00122766-00123069 insofar as necessary existence in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00473-00123070-00123306 intellect is the first basis for arguing ViWrnQ6gA1M-00474-00123307-00123681 for a necessary existent the proof is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00475-00123682-00123945 also cosmological insofar as most of it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00476-00123946-00124154 is taken up with arguing that contingent ViWrnQ6gA1M-00477-00124155-00124368 existence cannot stand alone and must ViWrnQ6gA1M-00478-00124369-00125111 end up in a necessary existent topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00479-00125113-00125315 distinction between essence and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00480-00125316-00125951 existence Islamic philosophy imbued as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00481-00125952-00126108 it is with Islamic theology ViWrnQ6gA1M-00482-00126108-00126284 distinguishes more clearly than ViWrnQ6gA1M-00483-00126285-00126461 Aristotelian ism the difference between ViWrnQ6gA1M-00484-00126463-00126616 essence and existence ViWrnQ6gA1M-00485-00126617-00126876 whereas existence is the domain of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00486-00126877-00127076 contingent and the accidental essence ViWrnQ6gA1M-00487-00127077-00127238 endures within a being beyond the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00488-00127239-00127533 accidental this was first described by a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00489-00127533-00127763 bacillus works on metaphysics who was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00490-00127764-00128002 himself influenced by Al Farabi ViWrnQ6gA1M-00491-00128003-00128303 some Orientalists for those particularly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00492-00128304-00128532 influenced by thalmus scholarship argued ViWrnQ6gA1M-00493-00128533-00128697 that Avicenna was the first to view ViWrnQ6gA1M-00494-00128698-00128901 existence wudood as an accident that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00495-00128902-00129088 happens to the essence mejia ViWrnQ6gA1M-00496-00129089-00129401 however this aspect of ontology is not ViWrnQ6gA1M-00497-00129402-00129582 the most central to the distinction that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00498-00129583-00129785 abyssal are established between essence ViWrnQ6gA1M-00499-00129786-00130088 and existence one cannot therefore make ViWrnQ6gA1M-00500-00130089-00130241 the claim that Avicenna was the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00501-00130242-00130436 proponent of the concept of essentialism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00502-00130438-00130703 per se given that existence al wudood ViWrnQ6gA1M-00503-00130704-00130901 when thought of in terms of necessity ViWrnQ6gA1M-00504-00130902-00131090 would ontologically translate into a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00505-00131091-00131370 notion of the necessary existent due to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00506-00131371-00131709 itself hua ji bel Wu Zhu di da T he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00507-00131710-00131871 which is without description or ViWrnQ6gA1M-00508-00131872-00132053 definition and in particular without ViWrnQ6gA1M-00509-00132054-00132338 quiddity or essence la magia la who ViWrnQ6gA1M-00510-00132339-00132597 consequently Avicenna x' ontology is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00511-00132598-00132812 existentialist when accounting for being ViWrnQ6gA1M-00512-00132813-00132908 quite existent ViWrnQ6gA1M-00513-00132909-00133136 in terms of necessity we job while it is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00514-00133137-00133316 essentialist in terms of thinking about ViWrnQ6gA1M-00515-00133317-00133531 being quiet existence in terms of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00516-00133532-00133862 contingency quai possibility in Kannur ViWrnQ6gA1M-00517-00133863-00134042 monk and our word Jude meaning ViWrnQ6gA1M-00518-00134043-00134291 contingent being some argue that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00519-00134292-00134546 Avicenna anticipated Frager and Bertrand ViWrnQ6gA1M-00520-00134547-00134792 Russell in holding that existence is an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00521-00134793-00135056 accident of accidents and also ViWrnQ6gA1M-00522-00135057-00135344 anticipated Alexius my Nong's view about ViWrnQ6gA1M-00523-00135345-00135656 non-existent objects he also provided ViWrnQ6gA1M-00524-00135657-00136013 early arguments for a necessary being as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00525-00136014-00136382 cause of all other existence the idea of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00526-00136383-00136721 essence pressured in existence is a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00527-00136722-00136946 concept which dates back to Avicenna in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00528-00136947-00137156 his school as well as Shahab out in sir ViWrnQ6gA1M-00529-00137157-00137348 woody and his illumination astre lhasa ViWrnQ6gA1M-00530-00137349-00137711 fee existence press said in essence the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00531-00137712-00137927 opposite existentialist notion was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00532-00137928-00138107 developed in the works of Averroes and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00533-00138108-00138775 malice addressed transcendent theosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00534-00138776-00139409 topic resurrection even on the feasts ViWrnQ6gA1M-00535-00139410-00139616 wrote the thea locust or toted actus is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00536-00139617-00139865 a defense of the system of Islam and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00537-00139866-00140063 Muslims doctrines on the missions of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00538-00140064-00140279 prophets the religious laws the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00539-00140280-00140459 resurrection of the body and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00540-00140460-00140762 transitoriness of the world the book ViWrnQ6gA1M-00541-00140763-00140975 presents rational arguments for bodily ViWrnQ6gA1M-00542-00140976-00141182 resurrection and the immortality of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00543-00141183-00141404 human soul using both demonstrative ViWrnQ6gA1M-00544-00141405-00141587 reasoning and material from the hadith ViWrnQ6gA1M-00545-00141588-00141872 corpus as forms of evidence later ViWrnQ6gA1M-00546-00141873-00142088 Islamic scholars viewed this work as a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00547-00142089-00142304 response to a verse enters metaphysical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00548-00142305-00142514 argument on spiritual resurrection as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00549-00142515-00142739 opposed to bodily resurrection which was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00550-00142740-00143492 earlier criticized by al-ghazali topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00551-00143493-00144071 soul and spirit the Muslim physician ViWrnQ6gA1M-00552-00144072-00144281 philosophers Avicenna and eben on a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00553-00144282-00144470 feast developed their own theories on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00554-00144471-00144722 the soul they both made a distinction ViWrnQ6gA1M-00555-00144723-00144917 between the soul and the spirit and in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00556-00144918-00145121 particular the Abyssinian doctrine on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00557-00145122-00145310 the nature of the soul was influential ViWrnQ6gA1M-00558-00145311-00145559 among the Scholastic's some of our ViWrnQ6gA1M-00559-00145560-00145754 centres views on the soul included the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00560-00145755-00145967 idea that the immortality of the soul is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00561-00145968-00146159 a consequence of its nature and not a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00562-00146160-00146303 purpose for it to fulfill ViWrnQ6gA1M-00563-00146304-00146684 in his theory of that 10 intellects he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00564-00146685-00146864 viewed the human soul is the tenth and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00565-00146865-00147164 final intellect Avicenna generally ViWrnQ6gA1M-00566-00147165-00147371 supported Aristotle's idea of the soul ViWrnQ6gA1M-00567-00147372-00147512 originating from the heart ViWrnQ6gA1M-00568-00147513-00147677 whereas eben on the face on the other ViWrnQ6gA1M-00569-00147678-00147884 hand rejected this idea and instead ViWrnQ6gA1M-00570-00147885-00148118 argued that the soul is related to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00571-00148119-00148414 entirety and not to one or a few organs ViWrnQ6gA1M-00572-00148415-00148718 he further criticized Aristotle's idea ViWrnQ6gA1M-00573-00148719-00148901 that every unique soul requires the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00574-00148902-00149090 existence of a unique source in this ViWrnQ6gA1M-00575-00149091-00149336 case the heart even on the face ViWrnQ6gA1M-00576-00149337-00149579 concluded that the soul is related ViWrnQ6gA1M-00577-00149580-00149810 primarily neither to the spirit nor to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00578-00149811-00150011 any organ but rather to the entire ViWrnQ6gA1M-00579-00150012-00150224 matter whose temperament is prepared to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00580-00150225-00150524 receive that soul and he defined the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00581-00150525-00150713 soul is nothing other than what a human ViWrnQ6gA1M-00582-00150714-00151460 indicates by saying aye topic thought ViWrnQ6gA1M-00583-00151461-00152000 experiments while he was imprisoned in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00584-00152001-00152195 the castle of far dejan near hamid an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00585-00152196-00152534 Avicenna wrote his floating man thought ViWrnQ6gA1M-00586-00152535-00152744 experiment to demonstrate human self ViWrnQ6gA1M-00587-00152745-00152936 awareness and the substantiality of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00588-00152937-00153194 soul he referred to the living human ViWrnQ6gA1M-00589-00153195-00153398 intelligence particularly the active ViWrnQ6gA1M-00590-00153399-00153572 intellect which he believed to be the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00591-00153573-00153785 hypostasis by which God communicates ViWrnQ6gA1M-00592-00153786-00153977 truth to the human mind and imparts ViWrnQ6gA1M-00593-00153978-00154262 order an intelligibility to nature his ViWrnQ6gA1M-00594-00154263-00154565 floating man thought experiment tells ViWrnQ6gA1M-00595-00154566-00154712 its readers to imagine themselves ViWrnQ6gA1M-00596-00154713-00154961 suspended in the air isolated from all ViWrnQ6gA1M-00597-00154962-00155198 sensations which includes no sensory ViWrnQ6gA1M-00598-00155199-00155492 contact with even their own bodies he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00599-00155493-00155711 argues that in this scenario one would ViWrnQ6gA1M-00600-00155712-00155990 still have self-consciousness he--the us ViWrnQ6gA1M-00601-00155991-00156194 concludes that the idea of the self is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00602-00156195-00156401 not logically dependent on any physical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00603-00156402-00156572 thing and that the soul should not be ViWrnQ6gA1M-00604-00156573-00156806 seen in relative terms but as a primary ViWrnQ6gA1M-00605-00156807-00157022 given a substance this argument was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00606-00157023-00157250 later refined and simplified by Rene ViWrnQ6gA1M-00607-00157251-00157472 Descartes in epistemic terms when he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00608-00157473-00157643 stated I can abstract from the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00609-00157644-00157844 supposition of all external things ViWrnQ6gA1M-00610-00157845-00158021 but not from the supposition of my own ViWrnQ6gA1M-00611-00158022-00158716 consciousness topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00612-00158717-00159229 time while ancient Greek philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00613-00159230-00159385 believed that the universe had an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00614-00159386-00159562 infinite past with no beginning early ViWrnQ6gA1M-00615-00159563-00159736 medieval philosophers and theologians ViWrnQ6gA1M-00616-00159737-00159961 developed the concept of the universe ViWrnQ6gA1M-00617-00159962-00160155 having a finite past with a beginning ViWrnQ6gA1M-00618-00160156-00160378 this view was inspired by the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00619-00160379-00160588 creationism shared by Judaism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00620-00160589-00160879 Christianity in Islam the Christian ViWrnQ6gA1M-00621-00160880-00161116 philosopher john philoponus presented a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00622-00161117-00161281 detailed argument against the ancient ViWrnQ6gA1M-00623-00161282-00161608 Greek notion of an infinite past Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-00624-00161609-00161803 and Arab Jewish philosophers like al ViWrnQ6gA1M-00625-00161804-00162013 Kindi Satya gown and al-ghazali ViWrnQ6gA1M-00626-00162014-00162247 developed further arguments with most ViWrnQ6gA1M-00627-00162248-00162399 falling into two broad categories ViWrnQ6gA1M-00628-00162400-00162676 assertions of the impossibility of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00629-00162677-00162976 existence of an actual infinite and of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00630-00162977-00163213 the impossibility of completing an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00631-00163214-00163905 actual infinite by successive addition ViWrnQ6gA1M-00632-00163906-00164629 topic truth in metaphysics Avicenna even ViWrnQ6gA1M-00633-00164630-00164998 Cena defined truthers what corresponds ViWrnQ6gA1M-00634-00164999-00165255 in the mind to what is outside it a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00635-00165256-00165481 verse in our elaborated on his ViWrnQ6gA1M-00636-00165482-00165729 definition of truth in his metaphysics ViWrnQ6gA1M-00637-00165730-00166012 the truth of a thing is the property of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00638-00166013-00166192 the being of each thing which has been ViWrnQ6gA1M-00639-00166193-00166603 established in it in his Quadra better ViWrnQ6gA1M-00640-00166604-00166831 Thomas Aquinas wrote a commentary on a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00641-00166832-00167023 bacillus definition of truth in his ViWrnQ6gA1M-00642-00167024-00167274 metaphysics and explained it as follows ViWrnQ6gA1M-00643-00167275-00167581 the truth of each thing as a bacillus ViWrnQ6gA1M-00644-00167582-00167827 says in his metaphysical is nothing else ViWrnQ6gA1M-00645-00167828-00168016 than the property of its being which has ViWrnQ6gA1M-00646-00168017-00168346 been established in it so that is called ViWrnQ6gA1M-00647-00168347-00168565 true gold which has properly the being ViWrnQ6gA1M-00648-00168566-00168787 of gold and attains to the established ViWrnQ6gA1M-00649-00168788-00169138 determinations of the nature of gold now ViWrnQ6gA1M-00650-00169139-00169351 each thing has properly being in some ViWrnQ6gA1M-00651-00169352-00169543 nature because it stands under the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00652-00169544-00169735 complete form proper to that nature ViWrnQ6gA1M-00653-00169736-00170017 where by being in species in that nature ViWrnQ6gA1M-00654-00170018-00170449 is only Islamic political philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00655-00170450-00170644 emphasized an inexorable link between ViWrnQ6gA1M-00656-00170645-00170866 science and religion and the process of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00657-00170867-00171193 IT had to find truth even al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-00658-00171194-00171424 al-hassan reasoned that to discover the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00659-00171425-00171643 truth about nature it is necessary to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00660-00171644-00171835 eliminate human opinion and error and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00661-00171836-00172090 allow the universe to speak for itself ViWrnQ6gA1M-00662-00172091-00172348 in his a pariah is against Ptolemy even ViWrnQ6gA1M-00663-00172349-00172507 al-haytham further wrote the following ViWrnQ6gA1M-00664-00172508-00172861 comments on truth truth is sought from ViWrnQ6gA1M-00665-00172862-00173101 itself but the truths he warns are ViWrnQ6gA1M-00666-00173102-00173299 immersed in uncertainties and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00667-00173300-00173545 scientific authorities such as Ptolemy ViWrnQ6gA1M-00668-00173546-00173812 whom he greatly respected are not immune ViWrnQ6gA1M-00669-00173813-00174325 from error therefore the seeker after ViWrnQ6gA1M-00670-00174326-00174526 the truth is not one who studies the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00671-00174527-00174727 writings of the ancients and following ViWrnQ6gA1M-00672-00174728-00174970 his natural disposition puts his trust ViWrnQ6gA1M-00673-00174971-00175192 in him but rather the one who suspects ViWrnQ6gA1M-00674-00175193-00175393 his faith in ermine questions what he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00675-00175394-00175606 gathers from him the one who submits to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00676-00175607-00175840 argument and demonstration and not to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00677-00175841-00176017 the sayings of a human being whose ViWrnQ6gA1M-00678-00176018-00176212 nature is fraught with all kinds of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00679-00176213-00176515 imperfection and deficiency thus the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00680-00176516-00176731 duty of the man who investigates the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00681-00176732-00176968 writings of scientists if learning the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00682-00176969-00177220 truth is his goal is to make himself an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00683-00177221-00177472 enemy of all that he reads and applying ViWrnQ6gA1M-00684-00177473-00177691 his mind to the core and margins of its ViWrnQ6gA1M-00685-00177692-00178015 content attack it from every side he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00686-00178016-00178222 should also suspect himself as he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00687-00178223-00178456 performs his critical examination of it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00688-00178457-00178684 so that he may avoid falling into either ViWrnQ6gA1M-00689-00178685-00179086 prejudice or leniency I constantly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00690-00179087-00179293 sought knowledge and truth and it became ViWrnQ6gA1M-00691-00179294-00179497 my belief that for gaining access to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00692-00179498-00179704 effulgence and closeness to God there is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00693-00179705-00179875 no better way than that of searching for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00694-00179876-00180637 truth and knowledge topic freewill and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00695-00180638-00181189 predestination the issue of freewill ViWrnQ6gA1M-00696-00181190-00181414 versus predestination issue is one of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00697-00181415-00181654 the most contentious topics in classical ViWrnQ6gA1M-00698-00181655-00181954 Islamic thought in accordance with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00699-00181955-00182167 Islamic belief in predestination or ViWrnQ6gA1M-00700-00182168-00182416 divine preordainments al-qaeda war card ViWrnQ6gA1M-00701-00182417-00182623 our God has full knowledge in control ViWrnQ6gA1M-00702-00182624-00182917 over all that occurs this is explained ViWrnQ6gA1M-00703-00182918-00183205 in Quranic verses such as say nothing ViWrnQ6gA1M-00704-00183206-00183397 will happen to us except what Allah has ViWrnQ6gA1M-00705-00183398-00183865 decreed for us he is our protector for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00706-00183866-00184045 Muslims everything in the world that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00707-00184046-00184255 occurs good or bad has been preordained ViWrnQ6gA1M-00708-00184256-00184483 and nothing can happen unless permitted ViWrnQ6gA1M-00709-00184484-00184735 by God according to Muslim theologians ViWrnQ6gA1M-00710-00184736-00184996 although events are preordained man ViWrnQ6gA1M-00711-00184997-00185164 possesses free will in that he or she ViWrnQ6gA1M-00712-00185165-00185380 has the Faculty to choose between right ViWrnQ6gA1M-00713-00185381-00185498 and wrong and is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00714-00185499-00185807 responsible for his actions according to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00715-00185808-00185993 Islamic tradition all that has been ViWrnQ6gA1M-00716-00185994-00186188 decreed by God is written in our law ViWrnQ6gA1M-00717-00186189-00187004 al-mahfuz the preserved tablet topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00718-00187005-00188275 natural philosophy topic atomism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00719-00188276-00188540 atomistic philosophies are found very ViWrnQ6gA1M-00720-00188541-00188726 early in Islamic philosophy and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00721-00188727-00188927 represent a synthesis of the Greek and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00722-00188928-00189221 Indian ideas like both the Greek and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00723-00189222-00189452 Indian versions Islamic atomism was a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00724-00189453-00189668 charged topic that had the potential for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00725-00189669-00189841 conflict with the prevalent religious ViWrnQ6gA1M-00726-00189842-00190151 orthodoxy yet it was such a fertile and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00727-00190152-00190394 flexible idea that as in Greece in India ViWrnQ6gA1M-00728-00190395-00190604 it flourished in some schools of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00729-00190605-00190913 thought the most successful form of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00730-00190914-00191099 Islamic atomism was in the azurite ViWrnQ6gA1M-00731-00191100-00191360 school of philosophy most notably in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00732-00191361-00191651 work of the philosopher al-ghazali 1058 ViWrnQ6gA1M-00733-00191652-00192029 - 11:11 in azurite atomism atoms are the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00734-00192030-00192233 only perpetual material things in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00735-00192234-00192457 existence and all else in the world is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00736-00192458-00192728 accidental meaning something that lasts ViWrnQ6gA1M-00737-00192729-00192929 for only an instant nothing accidental ViWrnQ6gA1M-00738-00192930-00193190 can be the cause of anything else except ViWrnQ6gA1M-00739-00193191-00193450 perception as it exists for a moment ViWrnQ6gA1M-00740-00193451-00193682 contingent events are not subject to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00741-00193683-00193879 natural physical causes but are the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00742-00193880-00194051 direct result of God's constant ViWrnQ6gA1M-00743-00194052-00194249 intervention without which nothing could ViWrnQ6gA1M-00744-00194250-00194495 happen thus nature is completely ViWrnQ6gA1M-00745-00194496-00194726 dependent on God which meshes with other ViWrnQ6gA1M-00746-00194727-00194987 a sure ID Islamic ideas on causation or ViWrnQ6gA1M-00747-00194988-00195176 the lack thereof other traditions in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00748-00195177-00195365 Islam rejected the atomism of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00749-00195366-00195575 athletes and expounded on many Greek ViWrnQ6gA1M-00750-00195576-00195832 texts especially those of Aristotle an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00751-00195833-00196091 active school of philosophers in Spain ViWrnQ6gA1M-00752-00196092-00196283 including the noted commentator ViWrnQ6gA1M-00753-00196284-00196685 Averroes 11:26 211 98 ad explicitly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00754-00196686-00196874 rejected the thought of al-ghazali and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00755-00196875-00197096 turned to an extensive evaluation of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00756-00197097-00197381 thought of Aristotle Averroes commented ViWrnQ6gA1M-00757-00197382-00197558 in detail on most of the works of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00758-00197559-00197768 Aristotle and his commentaries did much ViWrnQ6gA1M-00759-00197769-00197987 to guide the interpretation of Aristotle ViWrnQ6gA1M-00760-00197988-00198197 in later Jewish and Christian scholastic ViWrnQ6gA1M-00761-00198198-00199166 thought topic cosmology ViWrnQ6gA1M-00762-00199167-00199462 there are several cosmological verses in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00763-00199463-00199873 the Quran 610 to 632 which some modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-00764-00199874-00200008 writers have interpreted as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00765-00200009-00200176 foreshadowing the expansion of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00766-00200177-00200391 universe and possibly even the Big Bang ViWrnQ6gA1M-00767-00200392-00200715 Theory do not the unbelievers see that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00768-00200716-00200853 the heavens and the earth would join ViWrnQ6gA1M-00769-00200854-00201115 together as one unit of creation before ViWrnQ6gA1M-00770-00201116-00201428 we close them asunder Quran 21:30 ViWrnQ6gA1M-00771-00201429-00201799 translated by Yusuf Ali we have built ViWrnQ6gA1M-00772-00201800-00201966 the heaven with might and we it is who ViWrnQ6gA1M-00773-00201967-00202339 make the vast extent thereof' Quran 51 ViWrnQ6gA1M-00774-00202340-00202786 247 translated by peacful in contrast to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00775-00202787-00202999 ancient greek philosophers who believed ViWrnQ6gA1M-00776-00203000-00203185 that the universe had an infinite past ViWrnQ6gA1M-00777-00203186-00203413 with no beginning medieval philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-00778-00203414-00203623 and theologians developed the concept of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00779-00203624-00203845 the universe having a finite past with a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00780-00203846-00204118 beginning this view was inspired by the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00781-00204119-00204279 creation myth shared by the three ViWrnQ6gA1M-00782-00204280-00204559 Abrahamic religions Judaism Christianity ViWrnQ6gA1M-00783-00204560-00204934 and Islam the christian philosopher john ViWrnQ6gA1M-00784-00204935-00205146 philoponus presented the first such ViWrnQ6gA1M-00785-00205148-00205321 argument against the ancient greek ViWrnQ6gA1M-00786-00205321-00205633 notion of an infinite past his reasoning ViWrnQ6gA1M-00787-00205634-00205909 was adopted by many most notably Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-00788-00205910-00206163 philosopher al Kindi al kindess the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00789-00206164-00206421 Jewish philosopher sorry a gown Sadia ViWrnQ6gA1M-00790-00206423-00206646 Ben Joseph and the Muslim theologian ViWrnQ6gA1M-00791-00206648-00206950 al-ghazali al gazel they used two ViWrnQ6gA1M-00792-00206951-00207151 logical arguments against an infinite ViWrnQ6gA1M-00793-00207152-00207394 past the first being the argument from ViWrnQ6gA1M-00794-00207394-00207628 the impossibility of the existence of an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00795-00207629-00208051 actual infinite which states an actual ViWrnQ6gA1M-00796-00208052-00208432 infinite cannot exist an infinite ViWrnQ6gA1M-00797-00208433-00208654 temporal regress of events is an actual ViWrnQ6gA1M-00798-00208655-00209059 infinite quote dot dot an infinite ViWrnQ6gA1M-00799-00209060-00209292 temporal regress of events cannot exist ViWrnQ6gA1M-00800-00209294-00209619 the second argument the argument from ViWrnQ6gA1M-00801-00209621-00209821 the impossibility of completing an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00802-00209821-00210110 actual infinite by successive addition ViWrnQ6gA1M-00803-00210111-00210519 states an actual infinite cannot be ViWrnQ6gA1M-00804-00210521-00210894 completed by successive addition the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00805-00210896-00211134 temporal series of past events has been ViWrnQ6gA1M-00806-00211135-00211567 completed by successive addition quote ViWrnQ6gA1M-00807-00211567-00211876 dot the temporal series of past events ViWrnQ6gA1M-00808-00211877-00212134 cannot be an actual infinite both ViWrnQ6gA1M-00809-00212135-00212314 arguments were adopted by later ViWrnQ6gA1M-00810-00212315-00212454 Christian philosophers and theologians ViWrnQ6gA1M-00811-00212455-00212682 and the second argument in particular ViWrnQ6gA1M-00812-00212683-00212928 became famous after it was adopted by a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00813-00212929-00213139 manual Kant in his thesis of the first ViWrnQ6gA1M-00814-00213140-00213357 antimony concerning time in the 10th ViWrnQ6gA1M-00815-00213358-00213573 century the brethren of purity published ViWrnQ6gA1M-00816-00213575-00213744 the encyclopedia of the brethren of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00817-00213746-00213969 purity in which a heliocentric view of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00818-00213971-00214165 the universe is expressed in a section ViWrnQ6gA1M-00819-00214166-00214482 on cosmology God has placed the Sun at ViWrnQ6gA1M-00820-00214483-00214663 the center of the universe just as the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00821-00214664-00214854 capital of a country is placed in its ViWrnQ6gA1M-00822-00214855-00215014 middle and the rulers palace at the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00823-00215015-00215552 centre of the city ViWrnQ6gA1M-00824-00215553-00216353 topic evolution ViWrnQ6gA1M-00825-00216354-00216992 topic struggle for existence the muta ViWrnQ6gA1M-00826-00216994-00217212 silly scientist and philosopher Alger ViWrnQ6gA1M-00827-00217213-00217737 he's C 776 - 869 was the first of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00828-00217738-00217953 Muslim biologists and philosophers to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00829-00217954-00218232 develop an early theory of evolution he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00830-00218233-00218409 speculated on the influence of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00831-00218410-00218610 environment on animals considered the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00832-00218611-00218760 effects of the environment on the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00833-00218761-00218952 likelihood of an animal to survive and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00834-00218953-00219117 first describe the struggle for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00835-00219117-00219317 existence a precursor to natural ViWrnQ6gA1M-00836-00219319-00219600 selection algae hisses ideas on the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00837-00219601-00219773 struggle for existence in the book of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00838-00219775-00220046 animals have been summarized as follows ViWrnQ6gA1M-00839-00220046-00220275 animals engage in a struggle for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00840-00220276-00220544 existence for resources to avoid being ViWrnQ6gA1M-00841-00220546-00220881 eaten interbreed environmental factors ViWrnQ6gA1M-00842-00220882-00221100 influence organisms to develop new ViWrnQ6gA1M-00843-00221101-00221355 characteristics to ensure survival thus ViWrnQ6gA1M-00844-00221356-00221706 transforming into new species animals ViWrnQ6gA1M-00845-00221707-00221921 that survive to breed can pass on their ViWrnQ6gA1M-00846-00221923-00222266 successful characteristics to offspring ViWrnQ6gA1M-00847-00222267-00222626 in chapter 47 of India entitled on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00848-00222627-00222984 Vasudeva and the Wars of the Bharata abu ViWrnQ6gA1M-00849-00222985-00223152 rayhan biruni attempted to give a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00850-00223153-00223356 naturalistic explanation as to why the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00851-00223357-00223554 struggles described in the mahabharata ViWrnQ6gA1M-00852-00223555-00223896 had to take place he explains it using ViWrnQ6gA1M-00853-00223896-00224061 natural processes that include ViWrnQ6gA1M-00854-00224062-00224307 biological ideas related to evolution ViWrnQ6gA1M-00855-00224308-00224484 which has led several scholars to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00856-00224485-00224669 compare his ideas to Darwinism and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00857-00224671-00224967 natural selection this is due to biruni ViWrnQ6gA1M-00858-00224967-00225159 describing the idea of artificial ViWrnQ6gA1M-00859-00225160-00225371 selection and then applying it to nature ViWrnQ6gA1M-00860-00225371-00225639 the agriculturist selects his corn ViWrnQ6gA1M-00861-00225640-00225852 letting grow as much as he requires and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00862-00225853-00226116 tearing out the remainder the forester ViWrnQ6gA1M-00863-00226117-00226296 leaves those branches which he perceives ViWrnQ6gA1M-00864-00226296-00226496 to be excellent whilst he cuts away all ViWrnQ6gA1M-00865-00226498-00226773 others the bees kill those of their kind ViWrnQ6gA1M-00866-00226773-00226962 who only eat but do not work in their ViWrnQ6gA1M-00867-00226963-00227244 beehive nature proceeds in a similar way ViWrnQ6gA1M-00868-00227244-00227481 however it does not distinguish for its ViWrnQ6gA1M-00869-00227482-00227709 action is under all circumstances one in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00870-00227710-00227969 the same it allows the leaves and fruit ViWrnQ6gA1M-00871-00227971-00228165 of the trees to perish thus preventing ViWrnQ6gA1M-00872-00228166-00228327 them from realizing that result which ViWrnQ6gA1M-00873-00228328-00228480 they are intended to produce in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00874-00228481-00228767 economy of nature it removes them so as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00875-00228769-00229077 to make room for others in the 13th ViWrnQ6gA1M-00876-00229078-00229380 century Nazira LDL to Z explains how the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00877-00229381-00229554 elements evolved into minerals ViWrnQ6gA1M-00878-00229555-00229787 then plants than animals and then humans ViWrnQ6gA1M-00879-00229788-00230052 to Z then goes on to explain how ViWrnQ6gA1M-00880-00230053-00230271 hereditary variability was an important ViWrnQ6gA1M-00881-00230271-00230463 factor for biological evolution of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00882-00230464-00230757 living things the organisms that can ViWrnQ6gA1M-00883-00230758-00230937 gain the new features faster are more ViWrnQ6gA1M-00884-00230938-00231186 variable as a result they gain ViWrnQ6gA1M-00885-00231187-00231515 advantages over other creatures the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00886-00231516-00231762 bodies are changing as a result of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00887-00231763-00232107 internal and external interactions 2z ViWrnQ6gA1M-00888-00232108-00232296 discusses how organisms are able to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00889-00232296-00232584 adapt to their environments look at the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00890-00232585-00232866 world of animals and birds they have all ViWrnQ6gA1M-00891-00232867-00233109 that is necessary for defense protection ViWrnQ6gA1M-00892-00233110-00233304 and daily life including strengths ViWrnQ6gA1M-00893-00233305-00233703 courage in appropriate tools organs some ViWrnQ6gA1M-00894-00233704-00234042 of these organs are real weapons for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00895-00234042-00234258 example horned spear teeth and claws ViWrnQ6gA1M-00896-00234259-00234473 knife and needle feet and who schedule ViWrnQ6gA1M-00897-00234475-00234729 the thorns and needles of some animals ViWrnQ6gA1M-00898-00234730-00235125 are similar to arrows animals that have ViWrnQ6gA1M-00899-00235126-00235329 no other means of defense as the gazelle ViWrnQ6gA1M-00900-00235330-00235533 and Fox protect themselves with the help ViWrnQ6gA1M-00901-00235534-00235938 of flight and cunning some of them for ViWrnQ6gA1M-00902-00235939-00236160 example bees ants and some bird species ViWrnQ6gA1M-00903-00236161-00236400 have United in communities in order to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00904-00236401-00236571 protect themselves and help each other ViWrnQ6gA1M-00905-00236571-00236916 to z then explains how humans evolved ViWrnQ6gA1M-00906-00236917-00237216 from advanced animals such humans ViWrnQ6gA1M-00907-00237217-00237423 probably anthropoid apes live in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00908-00237423-00237630 western Sudan and other distant corners ViWrnQ6gA1M-00909-00237631-00237882 of the world they are close to animals ViWrnQ6gA1M-00910-00237883-00238253 by their habits deeds and behavior the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00911-00238254-00238512 human has features that distinguish him ViWrnQ6gA1M-00912-00238513-00238680 from other creatures but he has other ViWrnQ6gA1M-00913-00238681-00238869 features that unite him with the animal ViWrnQ6gA1M-00914-00238869-00239076 world vegetable kingdom or even with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00915-00239077-00239844 inanimate bodies topic transmutation of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00916-00239844-00240289 species ViWrnQ6gA1M-00917-00240290-00240717 Woori 828 to 896 considered the founder ViWrnQ6gA1M-00918-00240719-00240925 of Arabic botany for his book of plants ViWrnQ6gA1M-00919-00240926-00241134 discussed plant evolution from its birth ViWrnQ6gA1M-00920-00241135-00241344 to its death describing the phases of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00921-00241346-00241513 plant growth in the production of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00922-00241514-00241717 flowers and fruit even Miska ways al ViWrnQ6gA1M-00923-00241717-00241900 fors Alaska and the brethren of purity ViWrnQ6gA1M-00924-00241901-00242109 'z encyclopedia of the brethren of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00925-00242110-00242328 purity the epistles of Ikhwan al-safa ViWrnQ6gA1M-00926-00242329-00242544 developed theories on evolution that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00927-00242546-00242730 possibly had an influence on Charles ViWrnQ6gA1M-00928-00242731-00242914 Darwin and his inception of Darwinism ViWrnQ6gA1M-00929-00242915-00243144 but has at one time been criticized as ViWrnQ6gA1M-00930-00243146-00243498 over-enthusiastic these books state that ViWrnQ6gA1M-00931-00243500-00243742 God first created matter and invested it ViWrnQ6gA1M-00932-00243742-00244008 with energy for development matter ViWrnQ6gA1M-00933-00244009-00244267 therefore adopted the former vapor which ViWrnQ6gA1M-00934-00244267-00244505 assumed the shape of water in due time ViWrnQ6gA1M-00935-00244506-00244782 the next stage of development was ViWrnQ6gA1M-00936-00244783-00245046 mineral life different kinds of stones ViWrnQ6gA1M-00937-00245048-00245292 developed in course of time their ViWrnQ6gA1M-00938-00245294-00245614 highest form being measured coral it is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00939-00245615-00245821 a stone which has in it branches like ViWrnQ6gA1M-00940-00245821-00246105 those of a tree after mineral life ViWrnQ6gA1M-00941-00246106-00246396 evolves vegetation the evolution of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00942-00246398-00246633 vegetation culminates with a tree which ViWrnQ6gA1M-00943-00246634-00246919 bears the qualities of an animal this is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00944-00246919-00247213 the date palm it has male and female ViWrnQ6gA1M-00945-00247214-00247476 genders it does not wither if all its ViWrnQ6gA1M-00946-00247477-00247675 branches are chopped but it dies when ViWrnQ6gA1M-00947-00247676-00247980 the head is cut off the date palm is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00948-00247981-00248178 therefore considered the highest among ViWrnQ6gA1M-00949-00248179-00248401 the trees and resembles the lowest among ViWrnQ6gA1M-00950-00248402-00248701 animals then is born the lowest of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00951-00248702-00249037 animals it evolves into an ape this is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00952-00249038-00249301 not the statement of Darwin this is what ViWrnQ6gA1M-00953-00249302-00249483 even mask away States and this is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00954-00249484-00249664 precisely what is written in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00955-00249665-00250002 epistles of Ikhwan al-safa the Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-00956-00250003-00250198 thinkers state that ape then evolved ViWrnQ6gA1M-00957-00250198-00250548 into a lower kind of a barbarian man he ViWrnQ6gA1M-00958-00250550-00250851 then became a superior human being man ViWrnQ6gA1M-00959-00250852-00251160 becomes a cent a profit he evolves into ViWrnQ6gA1M-00960-00251161-00251451 a higher stage and becomes an angel the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00961-00251452-00251698 one higher to angels is indeed none but ViWrnQ6gA1M-00962-00251698-00251946 God everything begins from him and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00963-00251948-00252255 everything returns to him English ViWrnQ6gA1M-00964-00252256-00252487 translations of the encyclopedia of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00965-00252488-00252684 brethren of purity were available from ViWrnQ6gA1M-00966-00252685-00252930 1812 while Arabic manuscripts of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00967-00252931-00253155 Alfa's Alaska and the epistles of Ikhwan ViWrnQ6gA1M-00968-00253156-00253359 al-safa were also available at the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00969-00253360-00253581 University of Cambridge by the 19th ViWrnQ6gA1M-00970-00253582-00253629 century ViWrnQ6gA1M-00971-00253630-00253906 these works likely had an influence on ViWrnQ6gA1M-00972-00253907-00254161 19th century evolutionists and possibly ViWrnQ6gA1M-00973-00254162-00254425 Charles Darwin in the 14th century eben ViWrnQ6gA1M-00974-00254426-00254560 khaldun further developed the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00975-00254561-00254737 evolutionary ideas found in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00976-00254738-00254937 encyclopedia of the brethren of purity ViWrnQ6gA1M-00977-00254938-00255286 the following statements from his 1377 ViWrnQ6gA1M-00978-00255287-00255556 work the Moog Adamo Express evolutionary ViWrnQ6gA1M-00979-00255557-00255850 ideas we explained there that the whole ViWrnQ6gA1M-00980-00255851-00256042 of existence in all it's simple and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00981-00256042-00256210 composite worlds is arranged in a ViWrnQ6gA1M-00982-00256211-00256419 natural order of ascent and descent so ViWrnQ6gA1M-00983-00256421-00256558 that everything constitutes an ViWrnQ6gA1M-00984-00256559-00256828 uninterrupted continuum the essence is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00985-00256829-00257011 at the end of each particular stage of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00986-00257012-00257188 the worlds are by nature prepared to be ViWrnQ6gA1M-00987-00257189-00257394 transformed into the essence adjacent to ViWrnQ6gA1M-00988-00257396-00257662 them either above or below them this is ViWrnQ6gA1M-00989-00257663-00257823 the case with the simple material ViWrnQ6gA1M-00990-00257825-00258025 elements it is the case with palms and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00991-00258026-00258262 vines which constitute the last stage of ViWrnQ6gA1M-00992-00258263-00258469 plants in their relation to snails and ViWrnQ6gA1M-00993-00258469-00258685 shellfish which constitute the lowest ViWrnQ6gA1M-00994-00258686-00258973 stage of animals it is also the case ViWrnQ6gA1M-00995-00258973-00259186 with monkeys creatures combining in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00996-00259187-00259371 themselves cleverness and perception in ViWrnQ6gA1M-00997-00259373-00259576 their relation to man the being who has ViWrnQ6gA1M-00998-00259577-00259846 the ability to think and to reflect the ViWrnQ6gA1M-00999-00259846-00260041 preparedness for transformation that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01000-00260042-00260260 exists on either side at each stage of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01001-00260261-00260452 the worlds is meant when we speak about ViWrnQ6gA1M-01002-00260453-00260758 their connection plants do not have the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01003-00260759-00260944 same fineness and power that animals ViWrnQ6gA1M-01004-00260944-00261226 have therefore the sage is rarely turned ViWrnQ6gA1M-01005-00261227-00261469 to them animals are the last and final ViWrnQ6gA1M-01006-00261469-00261733 stage of the three permutations minerals ViWrnQ6gA1M-01007-00261734-00261969 turn into plants and plants into animals ViWrnQ6gA1M-01008-00261971-00262183 but animals cannot turn into anything ViWrnQ6gA1M-01009-00262184-00262422 finer than themselves ViWrnQ6gA1M-01010-00262423-00262660 numerous other Islamic scholars and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01011-00262661-00262882 scientists including the polymath Seba ViWrnQ6gA1M-01012-00262883-00263122 now haverman al Cassini discussed and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01013-00263123-00263407 developed these ideas translated into ViWrnQ6gA1M-01014-00263408-00263629 Latin these works began to appear in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01015-00263630-00263815 West after the Renaissance and may have ViWrnQ6gA1M-01016-00263816-00263992 influenced Western philosophy and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01017-00263993-00264742 science topic phenomenology ViWrnQ6gA1M-01018-00264743-00265257 vision the polymath IBN al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01019-00265258-00265482 al-hassan is considered a pioneer of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01020-00265483-00265750 phenomenology he articulated a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01021-00265751-00265921 relationship between the physical and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01022-00265922-00266108 observable world and that of intuition ViWrnQ6gA1M-01023-00266109-00266419 psychology and mental functions his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01024-00266420-00266572 theories regarding knowledge and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01025-00266573-00266743 perception linking the domains of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01026-00266744-00266968 science and religion led to a philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01027-00266969-00267127 of existence based on the direct ViWrnQ6gA1M-01028-00267128-00267295 observation of reality from the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01029-00267296-00267544 observers point of view much of his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01030-00267545-00267742 thought on phenomenology was not further ViWrnQ6gA1M-01031-00267743-00268509 developed until the 20th century topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01032-00268510-00269098 philosophy of mind the philosophy of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01033-00269099-00269314 mind was studied in medieval Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01034-00269315-00269505 psychological thought which refers to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01035-00269506-00269854 the study of the naf s literally self or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01036-00269855-00270169 psyche in Arabic in the Islamic world ViWrnQ6gA1M-01037-00270170-00270415 particularly during the Islamic Golden ViWrnQ6gA1M-01038-00270416-00270676 Age 815 centuries as well as modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-01039-00270677-00271021 times xx minus 21 stone centuries and is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01040-00271022-00271276 related to psychology psychiatry and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01041-00271277-00272446 neurosciences topic place and space the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01042-00272447-00272610 errant polymath alhazen ViWrnQ6gA1M-01043-00272611-00273025 eben al-haytham al Hazen died C 1041 ViWrnQ6gA1M-01044-00273026-00273210 presented a thorough mathematical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01045-00273211-00273415 critique and refutation of Aristotle's ViWrnQ6gA1M-01046-00273416-00273676 conception of place topos in his rajala ViWrnQ6gA1M-01047-00273677-00273994 qaw l film akan treatise discourse on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01048-00273995-00274410 place Aristotle's physics book IV Delta ViWrnQ6gA1M-01049-00274411-00274600 stated that the place of something is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01050-00274601-00274774 the two dimensional boundary of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01051-00274775-00274975 containing body that is at rest and is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01052-00274976-00275251 in contact with what it contains even ViWrnQ6gA1M-01053-00275252-00275419 al-haytham disagreed with these ViWrnQ6gA1M-01054-00275420-00275617 definition and demonstrated that place ViWrnQ6gA1M-01055-00275618-00275812 al Macan is the imagined three ViWrnQ6gA1M-01056-00275813-00276088 dimensional void Alcala al muta KL ViWrnQ6gA1M-01057-00276089-00276262 between the inner surfaces of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01058-00276263-00276352 containing body ViWrnQ6gA1M-01059-00276353-00276628 he showed that place was akin to space ViWrnQ6gA1M-01060-00276629-00276874 foreshadowing de cartes notion of places ViWrnQ6gA1M-01061-00276875-00277126 space quakes tensio or even lead mrs. ViWrnQ6gA1M-01062-00277127-00277396 analysis see Jews even al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01063-00277397-00277635 mathematize ation of place rested on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01064-00277636-00277837 several geometric demonstrations ViWrnQ6gA1M-01065-00277838-00278028 including his study on the sphere and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01066-00278029-00278099 other solar ViWrnQ6gA1M-01067-00278100-00278318 which showed that the sphere al-qura is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01068-00278319-00278567 the largest in magnitude volumetric with ViWrnQ6gA1M-01069-00278568-00278795 respect to other geometric solids that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01070-00278796-00279116 have equal surface areas for instance a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01071-00279117-00279334 sphere that has an equal surface area to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01072-00279335-00279518 that of a cylinder would be larger in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01073-00279519-00279728 volumetric magnitude than the cylinder ViWrnQ6gA1M-01074-00279729-00279958 hence the sphere occupies a larger place ViWrnQ6gA1M-01075-00279959-00280135 than that occupied by the cylinder ViWrnQ6gA1M-01076-00280136-00280355 unlike what is entailed by Aristotle's ViWrnQ6gA1M-01077-00280356-00280562 definition of place that this sphere in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01078-00280563-00280757 that cylinder occupy places that are ViWrnQ6gA1M-01079-00280758-00281021 equal in magnitude even al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01080-00281022-00281255 rejected Aristotle's philosophical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01081-00281256-00281503 concept of place on mathematical grounds ViWrnQ6gA1M-01082-00281504-00281771 later the philosopher Abdul Latif ViWrnQ6gA1M-01083-00281772-00282109 al-baghdadi 13th century tried to defend ViWrnQ6gA1M-01084-00282110-00282334 the Aristotelian conception of place in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01085-00282335-00282626 a treatise titled Phi Li DD Allah even ViWrnQ6gA1M-01086-00282627-00282908 al-haytham Phi al Macan a refutation of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01087-00282909-00283103 even al-haytham space although his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01088-00283104-00283241 effort was admirable from a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01089-00283242-00283421 philosophical standpoint it was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01090-00283422-00283616 unconvincing from the scientific and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01091-00283617-00283829 mathematical view points even al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01092-00283830-00284069 also discussed space perception and its ViWrnQ6gA1M-01093-00284070-00284297 epistemological implications in his book ViWrnQ6gA1M-01094-00284298-00284672 of optics 1021 his experimental proof of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01095-00284673-00284870 the intromission model of vision led to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01096-00284871-00285074 changes in the way the visual perception ViWrnQ6gA1M-01097-00285075-00285290 of space was understood contrary to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01098-00285291-00285452 previous emission theory of vision ViWrnQ6gA1M-01099-00285453-00285779 supported by Euclid and Ptolemy in tying ViWrnQ6gA1M-01100-00285780-00285992 the visual perception of space to prior ViWrnQ6gA1M-01101-00285993-00286187 bodily experience al-hassan ViWrnQ6gA1M-01102-00286188-00286490 unequivocally rejected the intuitiveness ViWrnQ6gA1M-01103-00286491-00286721 of spatial perception and therefore the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01104-00286722-00286838 autonomy of vision ViWrnQ6gA1M-01105-00286839-00287110 without tangible notions of distance and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01106-00287111-00287456 size for correlation sight can tell us ViWrnQ6gA1M-01107-00287457-00288238 next to nothing about such things topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01108-00288239-00288851 philosophy of Education in the medieval ViWrnQ6gA1M-01109-00288852-00289084 Islamic world an elementary school was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01110-00289085-00289295 known as a maktab which dates back to at ViWrnQ6gA1M-01111-00289296-00289565 least the 10th century like madrassas ViWrnQ6gA1M-01112-00289566-00289772 which referred to higher education a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01113-00289773-00290059 maktab was often attached to a mosque in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01114-00290060-00290306 the 11th century even sina known as a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01115-00290307-00290489 ver center in the West in one of his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01116-00290490-00290669 books wrote a chapter dealing with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01117-00290670-00290906 maktab entitled the role of the teacher ViWrnQ6gA1M-01118-00290907-00291074 in the training and upbringing of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01119-00291075-00291385 children as a guide to teachers working ViWrnQ6gA1M-01120-00291386-00291474 at maktab ViWrnQ6gA1M-01121-00291475-00291699 schools he wrote that children can learn ViWrnQ6gA1M-01122-00291700-00291897 better if taught in classes instead of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01123-00291898-00292110 individual tuition from private tutors ViWrnQ6gA1M-01124-00292111-00292296 and he gave a number of reasons for why ViWrnQ6gA1M-01125-00292297-00292506 this is the case citing the value of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01126-00292507-00292710 competition and emulation among pupils ViWrnQ6gA1M-01127-00292711-00292881 as well as the usefulness of group ViWrnQ6gA1M-01128-00292882-00293145 discussions and debates eben Cena ViWrnQ6gA1M-01129-00293146-00293343 described the curriculum of a maktab ViWrnQ6gA1M-01130-00293344-00293553 school in some detail describing the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01131-00293554-00293790 curricula for two stages of education in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01132-00293791-00294854 a maktab school topic primary education ViWrnQ6gA1M-01133-00294855-00295125 even seen a rote that children should be ViWrnQ6gA1M-01134-00295126-00295323 sent to a maktab school from the age of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01135-00295324-00295530 six and be taught primary education ViWrnQ6gA1M-01136-00295531-00295727 until they reach the age of fourteen ViWrnQ6gA1M-01137-00295728-00295971 during which time he wrote that they ViWrnQ6gA1M-01138-00295972-00296157 should be taught the Quran Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01139-00296158-00296427 metaphysics language literature Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01140-00296428-00296637 ethics and manual skills which could ViWrnQ6gA1M-01141-00296638-00297326 refer to a variety of practical skills ViWrnQ6gA1M-01142-00297327-00298002 topic secondary education eben Cena ViWrnQ6gA1M-01143-00298003-00298230 refers to the secondary education stage ViWrnQ6gA1M-01144-00298231-00298433 of maktab schooling as the period of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01145-00298434-00298653 specialization when pupils should begin ViWrnQ6gA1M-01146-00298654-00298869 to acquire manual skills regardless of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01147-00298870-00299118 their social status he writes that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01148-00299119-00299301 children after the age of fourteen ViWrnQ6gA1M-01149-00299302-00299478 should be given a choice to choose and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01150-00299479-00299649 specialise in subjects they have an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01151-00299650-00299817 interest in whether it was reading ViWrnQ6gA1M-01152-00299818-00300054 manual skills literature preaching ViWrnQ6gA1M-01153-00300055-00300296 medicine geometry trade and commerce ViWrnQ6gA1M-01154-00300297-00300531 craftsmanship or any other subject or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01155-00300532-00300702 profession they would be interested in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01156-00300703-00300966 pursuing for a future career he wrote ViWrnQ6gA1M-01157-00300967-00301158 that this was a transitional stage in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01158-00301159-00301314 that there needs to be flexibility ViWrnQ6gA1M-01159-00301315-00301470 regarding the age in which pupils ViWrnQ6gA1M-01160-00301471-00301686 graduate as the students emotional ViWrnQ6gA1M-01161-00301687-00301902 development and chosen subjects need to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01162-00301903-00302703 be taken into account topic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01163-00302704-00303430 of science ViWrnQ6gA1M-01164-00303431-00304079 topic scientific method the pioneering ViWrnQ6gA1M-01165-00304080-00304295 development of the scientific method by ViWrnQ6gA1M-01166-00304296-00304526 the arab ashari polymath eben al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01167-00304527-00304739 al-hassan was an important contribution ViWrnQ6gA1M-01168-00304740-00305051 to the philosophy of science in the book ViWrnQ6gA1M-01169-00305052-00305405 of optics C 1025 C II his scientific ViWrnQ6gA1M-01170-00305406-00305576 method was very similar to the modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-01171-00305577-00305798 scientific method and consisted of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01172-00305799-00306157 following procedures observation ViWrnQ6gA1M-01173-00306158-00306509 statement of problem formulation of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01174-00306510-00306871 hypothesis testing of hypothesis using ViWrnQ6gA1M-01175-00306872-00307232 experimentation analysis of experimental ViWrnQ6gA1M-01176-00307233-00307547 results interpretation of data and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01177-00307548-00307886 formulation of conclusion publication of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01178-00307887-00308066 findings in the model of the motions ViWrnQ6gA1M-01179-00308067-00308312 eben al-haytham also describes an early ViWrnQ6gA1M-01180-00308313-00308486 version of Occam's razor where he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01181-00308487-00308681 employs only minimal hypotheses ViWrnQ6gA1M-01182-00308682-00308816 regarding the properties that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01183-00308817-00309059 characterize astronomical motions as he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01184-00309060-00309254 attempts to eliminate from his planetary ViWrnQ6gA1M-01185-00309255-00309461 model the cosmological hypotheses that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01186-00309462-00309659 cannot be observed from Earth in a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01187-00309660-00309863 pariahs against ptolemy eben al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01188-00309864-00310079 commented on the difficulty of attaining ViWrnQ6gA1M-01189-00310080-00310388 scientific knowledge truth is sought for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01190-00310389-00310649 itself but the truths he warns are ViWrnQ6gA1M-01191-00310650-00310847 immersed in uncertainties and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01192-00310848-00311093 scientific authorities such as ptolemy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01193-00311094-00311360 whom he greatly respected are not immune ViWrnQ6gA1M-01194-00311361-00311834 from error he held that the criticism of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01195-00311835-00312098 existing theories which dominated this ViWrnQ6gA1M-01196-00312099-00312356 book holds a special place in the growth ViWrnQ6gA1M-01197-00312357-00312701 of scientific knowledge therefore the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01198-00312702-00312926 seeker after the truth is not one who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01199-00312927-00313148 studies the writings of the ancients and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01200-00313149-00313400 following his natural disposition puts ViWrnQ6gA1M-01201-00313401-00313619 his trust in them but rather the one who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01202-00313620-00313838 suspects his faith in Him and questions ViWrnQ6gA1M-01203-00313839-00314021 what he gathers from him the one who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01204-00314022-00314270 submits to argument and demonstration ViWrnQ6gA1M-01205-00314271-00314489 and not to the sayings of a human being ViWrnQ6gA1M-01206-00314490-00314723 whose nature is fraught with all kinds ViWrnQ6gA1M-01207-00314724-00314918 of imperfection and deficiency ViWrnQ6gA1M-01208-00314919-00315167 thus the duty of the man who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01209-00315168-00315416 investigates the writings of scientists ViWrnQ6gA1M-01210-00315417-00315680 if learning the truth is his goal is to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01211-00315681-00315893 make himself an enemy of all that he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01212-00315894-00316151 reads and applying his mind to the core ViWrnQ6gA1M-01213-00316152-00316373 and margins of its content attack it ViWrnQ6gA1M-01214-00316374-00316700 from every side he should also suspect ViWrnQ6gA1M-01215-00316701-00316733 him ViWrnQ6gA1M-01216-00316734-00316922 Dolf as he performs his critical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01217-00316923-00317165 examination of it so that he may avoid ViWrnQ6gA1M-01218-00317166-00317366 falling into either prejudice or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01219-00317367-00317807 leniency even al-haytham attributed his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01220-00317808-00318011 experimental scientific method and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01221-00318012-00318236 scientific skepticism to his Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01222-00318237-00318293 faith ViWrnQ6gA1M-01223-00318294-00318524 he believes that human beings are ViWrnQ6gA1M-01224-00318525-00318716 inherently fooled and that only God is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01225-00318717-00319001 perfect he reasoned that to discover the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01226-00319002-00319220 truth about nature it is necessary to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01227-00319221-00319415 eliminate human opinion and error and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01228-00319416-00319615 allow the universe to speak for itself ViWrnQ6gA1M-01229-00319616-00319910 in the winding motion even al-haytham ViWrnQ6gA1M-01230-00319911-00320087 further wrote that faith should only ViWrnQ6gA1M-01231-00320088-00320312 apply to prophets of Islam and not to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01232-00320313-00320510 any other authorities in the following ViWrnQ6gA1M-01233-00320511-00320735 comparison between the Islamic prophetic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01234-00320736-00320989 tradition and the demonstrative sciences ViWrnQ6gA1M-01235-00320990-00321278 from the statements made by the noble ViWrnQ6gA1M-01236-00321279-00321500 Sheikh it is clear that he believes in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01237-00321501-00321719 ptolemies words in everything he says ViWrnQ6gA1M-01238-00321720-00321974 without relying on a demonstration or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01239-00321975-00322219 calling on a proof but by pure imitation ViWrnQ6gA1M-01240-00322220-00322496 tacklin that is how experts in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01241-00322497-00322685 prophetic tradition have faith in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01242-00322686-00322910 prophets may the blessing of God be upon ViWrnQ6gA1M-01243-00322911-00323156 them but it is not the way that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01244-00323157-00323432 mathematicians have faith in specialists ViWrnQ6gA1M-01245-00323433-00323834 in the demonstrative sciences even ViWrnQ6gA1M-01246-00323835-00324026 al-haytham described his search for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01247-00324027-00324206 truth and knowledge as a way of leading ViWrnQ6gA1M-01248-00324207-00324329 him closer to God ViWrnQ6gA1M-01249-00324330-00324629 I constantly sought knowledge in truth ViWrnQ6gA1M-01250-00324630-00324875 and it became my belief that for gaining ViWrnQ6gA1M-01251-00324876-00325067 access to the ephod gence and closeness ViWrnQ6gA1M-01252-00325068-00325325 to God there is no better way than that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01253-00325326-00325724 of searching for truth and knowledge his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01254-00325725-00325967 contemporary abu rayhan al biruni also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01255-00325968-00326189 introduced an early scientific method in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01256-00326190-00326422 nearly every field of inquiry he studied ViWrnQ6gA1M-01257-00326423-00326669 for example in his treatise on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01258-00326670-00326933 mineralogy kittibelle Jamaa here book of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01259-00326934-00327227 precious stones he is the most exact of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01260-00327228-00327527 experimental scientists while in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01261-00327528-00327737 introduction to his study of India he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01262-00327738-00328022 declares that to execute our project it ViWrnQ6gA1M-01263-00328023-00328205 has not been possible to follow the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01264-00328206-00328499 geometric method and develops ViWrnQ6gA1M-01265-00328500-00328736 comparative sociology is a scientific ViWrnQ6gA1M-01266-00328737-00328928 method in the field he was also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01267-00328929-00329117 responsible for introducing the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01268-00329118-00329336 experimental method into mechanics the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01269-00329337-00329531 first to conduct elaborate experiments ViWrnQ6gA1M-01270-00329532-00329747 related to astronomical phenomena and a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01271-00329748-00329954 pioneer of experimental psychology ViWrnQ6gA1M-01272-00329955-00330039 unlike his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01273-00330040-00330237 temporary Avicenna scientific method ViWrnQ6gA1M-01274-00330238-00330489 where general and universal questions ViWrnQ6gA1M-01275-00330490-00330785 came first and led to experimental work ViWrnQ6gA1M-01276-00330786-00331059 al-biruni developed scientific methods ViWrnQ6gA1M-01277-00331060-00331329 where universals came out of practical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01278-00331330-00331653 experimental work and theories are ViWrnQ6gA1M-01279-00331654-00331989 formulated after discoveries during his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01280-00331990-00332163 debate with Avicenna on natural ViWrnQ6gA1M-01281-00332164-00332406 philosophy al-biruni made the first real ViWrnQ6gA1M-01282-00332407-00332601 distinction between a scientist and a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01283-00332602-00332811 philosopher referring to Avicenna as a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01284-00332812-00333015 philosopher and considering himself to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01285-00333016-00333246 be a mathematical scientist albarran 'is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01286-00333247-00333435 scientific method was similar to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01287-00333436-00333630 modern scientific method in many ways ViWrnQ6gA1M-01288-00333631-00333852 particularly his emphasis on repeated ViWrnQ6gA1M-01289-00333853-00334143 experimentation biruni was concerned ViWrnQ6gA1M-01290-00334144-00334335 with how to conceptualize and prevent ViWrnQ6gA1M-01291-00334336-00334545 both systematic errors and random errors ViWrnQ6gA1M-01292-00334546-00334788 such as errors caused by the use of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01293-00334789-00334998 small instruments and errors made by ViWrnQ6gA1M-01294-00334999-00335328 human observers he argued that if ViWrnQ6gA1M-01295-00335329-00335496 instruments produce random errors ViWrnQ6gA1M-01296-00335497-00335652 because of their imperfections or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01297-00335653-00335877 idiosyncratic qualities then multiple ViWrnQ6gA1M-01298-00335878-00336090 observations must be taken analyzed ViWrnQ6gA1M-01299-00336091-00336324 qualitatively and on this basis arrive ViWrnQ6gA1M-01300-00336325-00336585 at a common sense single value for the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01301-00336586-00336885 constant sort whether an arithmetic mean ViWrnQ6gA1M-01302-00336886-00337556 or a reliable estimate topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01303-00337557-00338166 experimental medicine Avicenna ibn Sina ViWrnQ6gA1M-01304-00338167-00338337 is considered the father of modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-01305-00338338-00338523 medicine for his introduction of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01306-00338524-00338700 experimental medicine and clinical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01307-00338701-00338934 trials the experimental use and testing ViWrnQ6gA1M-01308-00338935-00339117 of drugs and a precise guide for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01309-00339118-00339345 practical experimentation in the process ViWrnQ6gA1M-01310-00339346-00339483 of discovering and proving the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01311-00339484-00339699 effectiveness of medical substances in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01312-00339700-00339921 his medical encyclopedia the Canon of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01313-00339922-00340140 Medicine 11th century which was the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01314-00340141-00340323 first book dealing with experimental ViWrnQ6gA1M-01315-00340324-00340584 medicine it laid out the following rules ViWrnQ6gA1M-01316-00340585-00340743 and principles for testing the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01317-00340744-00340893 effectiveness of new drugs or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01318-00340894-00341112 medications which still form the basis ViWrnQ6gA1M-01319-00341113-00341439 of modern clinical trials the drug must ViWrnQ6gA1M-01320-00341440-00341688 be free from any extraneous accidental ViWrnQ6gA1M-01321-00341689-00342099 quality it must be used on a simple knot ViWrnQ6gA1M-01322-00342100-00342522 a composite disease the drug must be ViWrnQ6gA1M-01323-00342523-00342732 tested with two contrary types of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01324-00342733-00342975 diseases because sometimes a drug here's ViWrnQ6gA1M-01325-00342976-00343206 one disease by its essential qualities ViWrnQ6gA1M-01326-00343207-00343393 in another by its accidental ViWrnQ6gA1M-01327-00343394-00343795 one's the quality of the drug must ViWrnQ6gA1M-01328-00343796-00343972 correspond to the strength of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01329-00343973-00344296 disease for example there are some drugs ViWrnQ6gA1M-01330-00344297-00344488 whose hate is less than the coldness of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01331-00344489-00344716 certain diseases so that they would have ViWrnQ6gA1M-01332-00344717-00345108 no effect on them the time of action ViWrnQ6gA1M-01333-00345109-00345244 must be observed ViWrnQ6gA1M-01334-00345245-00345430 so that essence an accident are not ViWrnQ6gA1M-01335-00345431-00345871 confused the effect of the drug must be ViWrnQ6gA1M-01336-00345872-00346087 seen to occur constantly or in many ViWrnQ6gA1M-01337-00346088-00346351 cases for if this did not happen it was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01338-00346352-00346758 an accidental effect the experimentation ViWrnQ6gA1M-01339-00346759-00346969 must be done with the human body for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01340-00346970-00347146 testing a drug on a lion or a horse ViWrnQ6gA1M-01341-00347147-00347314 might not prove anything about its ViWrnQ6gA1M-01342-00347315-00348360 effect on man topic peer review ViWrnQ6gA1M-01343-00348361-00348603 the first documented description of a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01344-00348604-00348807 peer review process is found in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01345-00348808-00349015 ethics of the physician written by Shaq ViWrnQ6gA1M-01346-00349016-00349527 Ben Ali L Rauh II 854 to 931 of OWL raha ViWrnQ6gA1M-01347-00349528-00349779 Syria who describes the first medical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01348-00349780-00350103 care review process his work as well as ViWrnQ6gA1M-01349-00350104-00350349 later Arabic medical manuals state that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01350-00350350-00350550 a visiting physician must always make ViWrnQ6gA1M-01351-00350551-00350727 duplicate notes of a patient's condition ViWrnQ6gA1M-01352-00350728-00351019 on every visit when the patient was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01353-00351020-00351210 cured or had died the notes of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01354-00351211-00351384 physician were examined by a local ViWrnQ6gA1M-01355-00351385-00351627 medical counsel of other physicians who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01356-00351628-00351798 would review the practicing physicians ViWrnQ6gA1M-01357-00351799-00351975 notes to decide whether his/her ViWrnQ6gA1M-01358-00351976-00352125 performance have met the required ViWrnQ6gA1M-01359-00352126-00352288 standards of medical care ViWrnQ6gA1M-01360-00352289-00352519 if their reviews were negative the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01361-00352520-00352671 practicing physician could face a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01362-00352672-00353472 lawsuit from a maltreated patient topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01363-00353473-00354236 other fields ViWrnQ6gA1M-01364-00354237-00354891 topic epistemology Avicenna x' most ViWrnQ6gA1M-01365-00354892-00355110 influential theory in epistemology ViWrnQ6gA1M-01366-00355111-00355305 is his theory of knowledge in which he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01367-00355306-00355599 developed the concept of tabula rasa he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01368-00355600-00355845 argued that the human intellect at birth ViWrnQ6gA1M-01369-00355846-00356109 is rather like a tabula rasa a pure ViWrnQ6gA1M-01370-00356110-00356325 potentiality that is actualized through ViWrnQ6gA1M-01371-00356326-00356661 education and comes to know and that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01372-00356662-00356882 knowledge is attained through empirical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01373-00356883-00357123 familiarity with objects in this world ViWrnQ6gA1M-01374-00357124-00357354 from which one abstracts universal ViWrnQ6gA1M-01375-00357355-00357653 concepts which is developed through a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01376-00357654-00357881 syllogistic method of reasoning ViWrnQ6gA1M-01377-00357882-00358104 observations lead to prepositional ViWrnQ6gA1M-01378-00358105-00358335 statements which when compounded lead to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01379-00358336-00358689 further abstract concepts in the 12th ViWrnQ6gA1M-01380-00358690-00358917 century even to fail further developed ViWrnQ6gA1M-01381-00358918-00359151 the concept of tabula rasa in his Arabic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01382-00359152-00359364 novel hey urban Jackson in which he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01383-00359365-00359538 depicted the development of the mind of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01384-00359539-00359820 a feral child from a tabula rasa to that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01385-00359821-00360057 of an adult in complete isolation from ViWrnQ6gA1M-01386-00360058-00360429 society on a desert island the Latin ViWrnQ6gA1M-01387-00360430-00360606 translation of his work entitled ViWrnQ6gA1M-01388-00360607-00360846 philosophers autodidact s published by ViWrnQ6gA1M-01389-00360847-00361161 edward Pocock the younger in 1671 had an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01390-00361162-00361368 influence on John Locke's formulation of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01391-00361369-00361581 tabula rasa in an essay concerning human ViWrnQ6gA1M-01392-00361582-00362769 understanding topic eschatology Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01393-00362770-00362949 eschatology is concerned with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01394-00362950-00363189 qiyamah end of the world last judgment ViWrnQ6gA1M-01395-00363190-00363410 and the final judgment of humanity ViWrnQ6gA1M-01396-00363411-00363663 eschatology relates to one of the six ViWrnQ6gA1M-01397-00363664-00363999 articles of faith Ikeda of Islam like ViWrnQ6gA1M-01398-00364000-00364224 the other Abrahamic religions islam ViWrnQ6gA1M-01399-00364225-00364407 teaches the bodily resurrection of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01400-00364408-00364587 dead the fulfillment of a divine plan ViWrnQ6gA1M-01401-00364588-00364818 for creation and the immortality of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01402-00364819-00365001 human soul though jews do not ViWrnQ6gA1M-01403-00365002-00365214 necessarily view the soul is eternal the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01404-00365215-00365358 righteous are rewarded with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01405-00365359-00365547 pleasures of jannah heaven while the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01406-00365548-00365715 unrighteous are punished in Jahannam ViWrnQ6gA1M-01407-00365716-00366045 hell a significant fraction one-third in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01408-00366046-00366234 fact are the quran deals with these ViWrnQ6gA1M-01409-00366235-00366471 beliefs with many hadees elaborating on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01410-00366472-00366735 the themes and details islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01411-00366736-00366933 apocalyptic literature describing the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01412-00366934-00367134 armageddon is often known as fitna a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01413-00367135-00367377 test and mal ahim or Khyber in the Shia ViWrnQ6gA1M-01414-00367378-00367512 tradition ViWrnQ6gA1M-01415-00367513-00367743 even our Murphy's dealt with Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01416-00367744-00367970 eschatology in some depth in his CLO ViWrnQ6gA1M-01417-00367971-00368180 Gasol toted actors where he rationalized ViWrnQ6gA1M-01418-00368181-00368402 the Islamic view of eschatology using ViWrnQ6gA1M-01419-00368403-00368621 reason and science to explain the events ViWrnQ6gA1M-01420-00368622-00368798 that would occur according to Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01421-00368799-00369098 eschatology he presented his rational ViWrnQ6gA1M-01422-00369099-00369308 and scientific arguments in the form of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01423-00369309-00369489 Arabic fiction hence his theological ViWrnQ6gA1M-01424-00369490-00369707 toted actors may be considered the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01425-00369708-00370443 earliest science fiction work topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01426-00370444-00371078 legal philosophy Sharia Shariati refers ViWrnQ6gA1M-01427-00371079-00371306 to the body of Islamic law the term ViWrnQ6gA1M-01428-00371307-00371688 means way or earth it is the legal ViWrnQ6gA1M-01429-00371689-00371879 framework within which public and some ViWrnQ6gA1M-01430-00371880-00372083 private aspects of life are regulated ViWrnQ6gA1M-01431-00372084-00372293 for those living in a legal system based ViWrnQ6gA1M-01432-00372294-00372547 on Islamic principles of jurisprudence ViWrnQ6gA1M-01433-00372548-00372758 thickest the term for Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01434-00372759-00372966 jurisprudence made up of the rulings of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01435-00372967-00373290 Islamic jurists a component of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01436-00373291-00373535 studies Fick expands the methodology by ViWrnQ6gA1M-01437-00373536-00373718 which Islamic law is derived from ViWrnQ6gA1M-01438-00373719-00374093 primary and secondary sources mainstream ViWrnQ6gA1M-01439-00374094-00374285 Islam distinguished week which means ViWrnQ6gA1M-01440-00374286-00374493 understanding details and inferences ViWrnQ6gA1M-01441-00374494-00374691 drawn by scholars from Sharia that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01442-00374692-00374903 refers to principles that lie behind the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01443-00374904-00375173 thick scholars hope that ficken Sharia ViWrnQ6gA1M-01444-00375174-00375398 are in harmony in any given case but ViWrnQ6gA1M-01445-00375399-00376184 they cannot be sure topic philosophical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01446-00376185-00376767 novels the Islamic philosophers even to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01447-00376768-00377021 fail a boob ASA and a banana feast were ViWrnQ6gA1M-01448-00377022-00377303 pioneers of the philosophical novel even ViWrnQ6gA1M-01449-00377304-00377477 tough al wrote the first fictional ViWrnQ6gA1M-01450-00377478-00377739 Arabic novel haben yak don philosopher ViWrnQ6gA1M-01451-00377740-00377924 saw tota ductus as a response to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01452-00377925-00378125 al-ghazali's the incoherence of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01453-00378126-00378315 philosophers and then a banal new face ViWrnQ6gA1M-01454-00378316-00378548 also wrote a fictional novel theologian ViWrnQ6gA1M-01455-00378549-00378749 or toted actus is a response to eben ViWrnQ6gA1M-01456-00378750-00378958 tough ales philosopher sort Oded actors ViWrnQ6gA1M-01457-00378959-00379239 both of these novels had protagonists ViWrnQ6gA1M-01458-00379240-00379451 hae-in philosophers autodidact s and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01459-00379452-00379676 camel in Thea locus autodidact us who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01460-00379677-00379832 were Auto didactic individuals ViWrnQ6gA1M-01461-00379833-00380054 spontaneously generated in a cave and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01462-00380055-00380222 living in seclusion on a desert island ViWrnQ6gA1M-01463-00380223-00380450 both being the earliest examples of a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01464-00380451-00380742 desert island story however while he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01465-00380743-00380874 lives alone on the desert ViWrnQ6gA1M-01466-00380875-00381083 for most of the story in philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-01467-00381084-00381345 autodidact us the story of camel extends ViWrnQ6gA1M-01468-00381346-00381528 beyond the desert island setting in thea ViWrnQ6gA1M-01469-00381529-00381753 locus autodidact s developing into the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01470-00381754-00381945 first example of a science fiction novel ViWrnQ6gA1M-01471-00381946-00382173 eben alma feast described his book ViWrnQ6gA1M-01472-00382174-00382389 theologia saw toted actors as a defense ViWrnQ6gA1M-01473-00382390-00382644 of the system of Islam and the Muslims ViWrnQ6gA1M-01474-00382645-00382842 doctrines on the missions of prophets ViWrnQ6gA1M-01475-00382843-00383084 the religious laws the resurrection of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01476-00383085-00383289 the body and the transitoriness of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01477-00383290-00383357 world ViWrnQ6gA1M-01478-00383358-00383622 he presents rational arguments for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01479-00383623-00383781 bodily resurrection and the immortality ViWrnQ6gA1M-01480-00383782-00383979 of the human soul using both ViWrnQ6gA1M-01481-00383980-00384174 demonstrative reasoning and material ViWrnQ6gA1M-01482-00384175-00384395 from the hadith corpus to prove his case ViWrnQ6gA1M-01483-00384396-00384672 later Islamic scholars viewed this work ViWrnQ6gA1M-01484-00384673-00384873 as a response to the metaphysical claim ViWrnQ6gA1M-01485-00384874-00385053 of a verse enter an even tough ale that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01486-00385054-00385248 bodily resurrection cannot be proven ViWrnQ6gA1M-01487-00385249-00385425 through reason a view that was earlier ViWrnQ6gA1M-01488-00385426-00385641 criticized by al-ghazali a latin ViWrnQ6gA1M-01489-00385642-00385869 translation of philosophers autodidact s ViWrnQ6gA1M-01490-00385870-00386181 was published in 1671 prepared by edward ViWrnQ6gA1M-01491-00386182-00386435 Pocock the younger the first English ViWrnQ6gA1M-01492-00386436-00386625 translation by Simon Oakley was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01493-00386626-00386883 published in 1708 and German and Dutch ViWrnQ6gA1M-01494-00386884-00387090 translations were also published at the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01495-00387091-00387387 time philosopher sought Oded actors went ViWrnQ6gA1M-01496-00387388-00387573 on to have a significant influence on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01497-00387574-00387756 European literature and became an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01498-00387757-00387918 influential bestseller throughout ViWrnQ6gA1M-01499-00387919-00388113 Western Europe in the 17th and 18th ViWrnQ6gA1M-01500-00388114-00388416 centuries these translations later ViWrnQ6gA1M-01501-00388417-00388650 inspired Daniel Defoe to write Robinson ViWrnQ6gA1M-01502-00388651-00388857 Crusoe which also featured a desert ViWrnQ6gA1M-01503-00388858-00389031 island narrative and was regarded as the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01504-00389032-00389241 first novel in English philosopher saw ViWrnQ6gA1M-01505-00389242-00389459 toted actors also had a profound ViWrnQ6gA1M-01506-00389460-00389759 influence on modern Western philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01507-00389760-00390027 it became one of the most important ViWrnQ6gA1M-01508-00390028-00390219 books that heralded the Scientific ViWrnQ6gA1M-01509-00390220-00390465 Revolution and European enlightenment ViWrnQ6gA1M-01510-00390466-00390666 and the thoughts expressed in the novel ViWrnQ6gA1M-01511-00390667-00390852 can be found in different variations ViWrnQ6gA1M-01512-00390853-00391107 into different degrees in the books of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01513-00391108-00391371 Thomas Hobbes John Locke Isaac Newton ViWrnQ6gA1M-01514-00391372-00391731 and Immanuel Kant the novel inspired the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01515-00391732-00392064 concept of tabula rasa developed in an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01516-00392065-00392279 essay concerning human understanding ViWrnQ6gA1M-01517-00392280-00392544 1690 by Locke who was a student of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01518-00392545-00392847 Pocock philosopher saw toted actors also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01519-00392848-00393012 developed the themes of empiricism ViWrnQ6gA1M-01520-00393013-00393254 tabula rasa nature versus nurture ViWrnQ6gA1M-01521-00393255-00393555 condition of possibility materialism and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01522-00393556-00393801 mala news problem the novel also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01523-00393802-00393987 inspired Robert Boyle and other ViWrnQ6gA1M-01524-00393988-00394191 acquaintances of Pocock to write his own ViWrnQ6gA1M-01525-00394192-00394248 Phyllis ViWrnQ6gA1M-01526-00394249-00394422 ethical novel said on an island the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01527-00394423-00394704 aspiring naturalist other European ViWrnQ6gA1M-01528-00394705-00394887 scholars influenced by philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-01529-00394888-00395117 autodidact s include Gottfried Leibniz ViWrnQ6gA1M-01530-00395118-00395415 Melchizedek 7'o John Wallace Christian ViWrnQ6gA1M-01531-00395416-00395478 Huygens ViWrnQ6gA1M-01532-00395479-00395718 Georg Keith Robert Barclay the Quakers ViWrnQ6gA1M-01533-00395719-00396492 and Samuel hartleb topic political ViWrnQ6gA1M-01534-00396493-00397013 philosophy early Islamic political ViWrnQ6gA1M-01535-00397014-00397281 philosophy emphasized an inexorable link ViWrnQ6gA1M-01536-00397282-00397464 between science and religion and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01537-00397465-00397664 process of IT had to find truth in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01538-00397665-00398004 effect all philosophy was political as ViWrnQ6gA1M-01539-00398005-00398241 it had real implications for governance ViWrnQ6gA1M-01540-00398242-00398469 this view was challenged by the Muto's ViWrnQ6gA1M-01541-00398470-00398658 ilight philosophers who held a more ViWrnQ6gA1M-01542-00398659-00398817 secular view and was supported by ViWrnQ6gA1M-01543-00398818-00399057 secular aristocracy who sought freedom ViWrnQ6gA1M-01544-00399058-00399240 of action independent of the caliphate ViWrnQ6gA1M-01545-00399241-00399519 the only Greek political treatise known ViWrnQ6gA1M-01546-00399520-00399699 to medieval Muslims at the time was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01547-00399700-00399960 Plato's Republic by the end of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01548-00399961-00400203 Islamic Golden Age however the azurite ViWrnQ6gA1M-01549-00400204-00400508 view of islam had in general triumphed ViWrnQ6gA1M-01550-00400509-00400779 mcpaul itical philosophy was indeed ViWrnQ6gA1M-01551-00400780-00401007 rooted in the very sources of Islam ie ViWrnQ6gA1M-01552-00401008-00401210 the Quran and the Sunnah the words and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01553-00401211-00401481 practices of Muhammad however in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01554-00401482-00401652 Western thought it is generally known ViWrnQ6gA1M-01555-00401653-00401868 that it was a specific area peculiar ViWrnQ6gA1M-01556-00401869-00402024 merely to the great philosophers of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01557-00402025-00402342 Islam al Kindi al kindess Al Farabi Al ViWrnQ6gA1M-01558-00402343-00402495 Farabi eben Cena ViWrnQ6gA1M-01559-00402496-00402750 Avicenna eben Barger Evan pace eben ViWrnQ6gA1M-01560-00402751-00403056 Rushdie averroes and eben Khaldun the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01561-00403057-00403278 political conceptions of Islam such as ViWrnQ6gA1M-01562-00403279-00403542 Kouta sultan omar samara and even the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01563-00403543-00403902 core terms of the quran i Avada din ViWrnQ6gA1M-01564-00403903-00404190 rabbin ila h is taken as the basis of an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01565-00404191-00404534 analysis hence not only the ideas of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01566-00404535-00404751 muslim political philosophers but also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01567-00404752-00404976 many other jurists and you'll AMA post ViWrnQ6gA1M-01568-00404977-00405318 political ideas and theories for example ViWrnQ6gA1M-01569-00405319-00405522 the ideas of the cow array in the very ViWrnQ6gA1M-01570-00405523-00405708 early years of Islamic history on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01571-00405709-00405959 California or that of sheer Islam on the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01572-00405960-00406176 concept of Imam are considered proofs of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01573-00406177-00406413 political thought the clashes between ViWrnQ6gA1M-01574-00406414-00406692 the eh Li Sunna and Shia in the 7th and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01575-00406693-00406869 8th centuries had a genuine political ViWrnQ6gA1M-01576-00406870-00407259 character the 14th century Arab scholar ViWrnQ6gA1M-01577-00407260-00407457 IBN khaldun is considered one of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01578-00407458-00407646 greatest political theorists ViWrnQ6gA1M-01579-00407647-00407910 the British philosopher anthropologist ViWrnQ6gA1M-01580-00407911-00408123 Ernest Gellner considered even Calvin's ViWrnQ6gA1M-01581-00408124-00408372 definition of government an institution ViWrnQ6gA1M-01582-00408373-00408588 which prevents injustice other than such ViWrnQ6gA1M-01583-00408589-00408903 as it commits itself the best in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01584-00408904-00409582 history of political theory topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01585-00409583-00410049 philosophy of history ViWrnQ6gA1M-01586-00410050-00410271 the first detailed studies on the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01587-00410272-00410472 subject of historiography in the first ViWrnQ6gA1M-01588-00410472-00410693 critiques on historical methods appeared ViWrnQ6gA1M-01589-00410695-00410918 in the works of the Arab a re polymath ViWrnQ6gA1M-01590-00410920-00411345 IBN khaldun 13322 1406 who is regarded ViWrnQ6gA1M-01591-00411346-00411582 as the father of historiography cultural ViWrnQ6gA1M-01592-00411583-00411767 history in the philosophy of history ViWrnQ6gA1M-01593-00411768-00411957 especially for his historiographical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01594-00411958-00412214 writings in the muga damar latinized his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01595-00412216-00412455 prolegomena and hit have oliver book of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01596-00412456-00412758 advice his Mugen am also laid the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01597-00412759-00412932 groundwork for the observation of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01598-00412933-00413220 role of state communication propaganda ViWrnQ6gA1M-01599-00413221-00413435 and systematic bias in history and he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01600-00413437-00413589 discussed the rise and fall of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01601-00413589-00413967 civilizations france rosen tal wrote in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01602-00413968-00414230 the history of muslim historiography ViWrnQ6gA1M-01603-00414231-00414483 muslim historiography has at all times ViWrnQ6gA1M-01604-00414484-00414756 been united by the closest ties with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01605-00414757-00414933 general development of scholarship in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01606-00414934-00415143 islam and the position of historical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01607-00415143-00415343 knowledge in museum education has ViWrnQ6gA1M-01608-00415345-00415584 exercised a decisive influence upon the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01609-00415585-00415904 intellectual level of historic I writing ViWrnQ6gA1M-01610-00415905-00416193 the Muslims achieved a definite advanced ViWrnQ6gA1M-01611-00416193-00416409 beyond previous historical writing in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01612-00416410-00416592 the sociological understanding of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01613-00416593-00416781 history and the systematization of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01614-00416782-00417078 historiography the development of modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-01615-00417079-00417288 historical writings seems to have gained ViWrnQ6gA1M-01616-00417289-00417483 considerably in speed and substance ViWrnQ6gA1M-01617-00417484-00417666 through the utilization of a Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-01618-00417667-00417837 literature which enabled Western ViWrnQ6gA1M-01619-00417838-00418110 historians from the 17th century on to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01620-00418110-00418289 see a large section of the world through ViWrnQ6gA1M-01621-00418291-00418560 foreign eyes the Muslim historiography ViWrnQ6gA1M-01622-00418560-00418818 helped indirectly and modestly to shape ViWrnQ6gA1M-01623-00418818-00419568 present-day historical thinking topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01624-00419568-00420132 philosophy of religion there is an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01625-00420133-00420321 important question on the relation of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01626-00420322-00420534 religion and philosophy reason and faith ViWrnQ6gA1M-01627-00420535-00420797 and so on in one hand there is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01628-00420799-00420981 extraordinary importance attached to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01629-00420982-00421200 religion in Islamic civilization and in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01630-00421201-00421353 other hand they created certain ViWrnQ6gA1M-01631-00421354-00421545 doctrines in respect to reason and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01632-00421546-00422664 religion topic social philosophy the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01633-00422664-00422791 social philosopher and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01634-00422792-00423199 sorry polymath IBN khaldun 13322 1406 ViWrnQ6gA1M-01635-00423200-00423427 was the last major Islamic philosopher ViWrnQ6gA1M-01636-00423428-00423703 from Tunis North Africa in his moog ViWrnQ6gA1M-01637-00423704-00423901 Adama he developed the earliest theories ViWrnQ6gA1M-01638-00423902-00424138 on social philosophy in formulating ViWrnQ6gA1M-01639-00424139-00424354 theories of social cohesion and social ViWrnQ6gA1M-01640-00424355-00424639 conflict his mu gaddama was also the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01641-00424639-00424860 introduction to a seven-volume analysis ViWrnQ6gA1M-01642-00424862-00425179 of universal history eben Khaldun is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01643-00425180-00425454 considered the father of sociology ViWrnQ6gA1M-01644-00425455-00425860 father of historiography and father of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01645-00425860-00426181 the philosophy of history by some for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01646-00426182-00426366 allegedly being the first to discuss the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01647-00426367-00426622 topics of sociology historiography in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01648-00426622-00427272 the philosophy of history in detail ViWrnQ6gA1M-01649-00427272-00428014 topic Judeo Islamic philosophies Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01650-00428014-00428182 philosophy found an audience with the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01651-00428183-00428397 Jews to whom belongs the honor of having ViWrnQ6gA1M-01652-00428398-00428622 transmitted it to the Christian world a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01653-00428622-00428953 series of eminent men such as the eben ViWrnQ6gA1M-01654-00428954-00429241 tippin's nopony Gerson IDEs joined in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01655-00429242-00429451 translating the Arabic philosophical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01656-00429452-00429634 works into Hebrew and commenting upon ViWrnQ6gA1M-01657-00429635-00429880 them the works of even Rushdie ViWrnQ6gA1M-01658-00429881-00430068 especially became the subject of their ViWrnQ6gA1M-01659-00430069-00430297 study during great measure to Maimonides ViWrnQ6gA1M-01660-00430297-00430513 who in a letter addressed to his pupil ViWrnQ6gA1M-01661-00430514-00430624 Joseph ben-judah ViWrnQ6gA1M-01662-00430625-00430807 spoke in the highest terms have even ViWrnQ6gA1M-01663-00430808-00431095 rushed his commentary the oldest Jewish ViWrnQ6gA1M-01664-00431096-00431338 religio philosophical work preserved in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01665-00431339-00431688 Arabic is that of Saudi a gown 892 to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01666-00431689-00432091 942 m Univ a de OT the book of beliefs ViWrnQ6gA1M-01667-00432092-00432414 in opinions in this works Aria treats ViWrnQ6gA1M-01668-00432416-00432601 the questions that interested the muta ViWrnQ6gA1M-01669-00432602-00432802 kellerman such as the creation of matter ViWrnQ6gA1M-01670-00432803-00433051 the unity of God the divine attributes ViWrnQ6gA1M-01671-00433052-00433405 the soul etc Surya criticizes other ViWrnQ6gA1M-01672-00433406-00433657 philosophers severely pasarĂ­a there was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01673-00433658-00433900 no problem as to creation God created ViWrnQ6gA1M-01674-00433901-00434118 the world exnihilo just as the bible ViWrnQ6gA1M-01675-00434119-00434329 attests and he contests the theory of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01676-00434330-00434535 the muta kellerman in reference to atoms ViWrnQ6gA1M-01677-00434537-00434776 which theory he declares his justice ViWrnQ6gA1M-01678-00434777-00434964 contrary to reason and religion as the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01679-00434966-00435154 theory of the philosophers professing ViWrnQ6gA1M-01680-00435155-00435433 the Eternity of matter to prove the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01681-00435434-00435535 unity of God ViWrnQ6gA1M-01682-00435535-00435745 Sadia uses the demonstrations of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01683-00435746-00436014 muta kellerman only the attributes of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01684-00436016-00436162 essence sifat ViWrnQ6gA1M-01685-00436163-00436384 all dirty art can be ascribed to God but ViWrnQ6gA1M-01686-00436385-00436668 not the attributes of action sifat Alfie ViWrnQ6gA1M-01687-00436670-00436942 Elia the soul is a substance more ViWrnQ6gA1M-01688-00436943-00437131 delicate even than that of the celestial ViWrnQ6gA1M-01689-00437132-00437455 spheres he Saadia controverts the muta ViWrnQ6gA1M-01690-00437456-00437632 kellerman who considered the soul an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01691-00437633-00437935 accident a rad compare guide for the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01692-00437935-00438264 perplexed i-74 and employs the following ViWrnQ6gA1M-01693-00438266-00438457 one of their premises to justify his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01694-00438458-00438697 position only a substance can be the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01695-00438697-00438997 substratum of an accident that is of a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01696-00438997-00439183 non-essential property of things ViWrnQ6gA1M-01697-00439184-00439516 sorry argues if the soul be an accident ViWrnQ6gA1M-01698-00439517-00439726 only it can itself have no such ViWrnQ6gA1M-01699-00439727-00440164 accidents as wisdom joy love etc Satya ViWrnQ6gA1M-01700-00440164-00440356 was thus in every way a supporter of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01701-00440357-00440568 Kalam and if at times he deviated from ViWrnQ6gA1M-01702-00440570-00440749 its doctrines it was owing to his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01703-00440750-00441082 religious views since no idea and no ViWrnQ6gA1M-01704-00441083-00441297 literary or philosophical movement ever ViWrnQ6gA1M-01705-00441299-00441529 germinated on Persian or Arabian soil ViWrnQ6gA1M-01706-00441530-00441718 without leaving its impress on the Jews ViWrnQ6gA1M-01707-00441718-00441934 al-ghazali found an imitator in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01708-00441935-00442231 person of Judah ha Levi this poet also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01709-00442232-00442453 took upon himself to free his religion ViWrnQ6gA1M-01710-00442454-00442606 from what he saw as the shackles of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01711-00442607-00442810 speculative philosophy and to this end ViWrnQ6gA1M-01712-00442810-00443107 wrote thee kuzuri in which he sought to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01713-00443108-00443245 discredit all schools of philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01714-00443246-00443347 alike ViWrnQ6gA1M-01715-00443347-00443589 he passes severe censure upon the muta ViWrnQ6gA1M-01716-00443591-00443722 kellerman for seeking to support ViWrnQ6gA1M-01717-00443722-00444028 religion by philosophy he says I ViWrnQ6gA1M-01718-00444029-00444220 consider him to have attained the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01719-00444221-00444418 highest degree of perfection who is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01720-00444418-00444618 convinced of religious truths without ViWrnQ6gA1M-01721-00444620-00444808 having scrutinized them and reasoned ViWrnQ6gA1M-01722-00444809-00445057 over them kuzuri ViWrnQ6gA1M-01723-00445058-00445366 V then he reduced the chief propositions ViWrnQ6gA1M-01724-00445367-00445558 of the mudak alamin to prove the unity ViWrnQ6gA1M-01725-00445559-00445785 of God to ten in number describing them ViWrnQ6gA1M-01726-00445787-00446005 at length and concluding in these terms ViWrnQ6gA1M-01727-00446006-00446245 does the Kalam give us more information ViWrnQ6gA1M-01728-00446246-00446449 concerning God and his attributes than ViWrnQ6gA1M-01729-00446450-00446789 the Prophet did yep III and IV ViWrnQ6gA1M-01730-00446791-00447072 Aristotelian ism finds no favor in Judah ViWrnQ6gA1M-01731-00447074-00447307 ha Levi's eyes for it is no less given ViWrnQ6gA1M-01732-00447308-00447556 to details in criticism neoplatonism ViWrnQ6gA1M-01733-00447557-00447751 alone suited him somewhat owing to its ViWrnQ6gA1M-01734-00447752-00447975 appeal to his poetic temperament ViWrnQ6gA1M-01735-00447976-00448218 similarly the reaction in favor of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01736-00448220-00448435 stricter Aristotelian ism as found in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01737-00448435-00448645 Averroes had its Jewish counterpart in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01738-00448646-00448906 the work of Maimonides later Jewish ViWrnQ6gA1M-01739-00448907-00449107 philosophers such as Gerson IDEs and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01740-00449108-00449320 Elijah Dell made ego followed the school ViWrnQ6gA1M-01741-00449321-00449508 of averroes and played a part in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01742-00449509-00449672 meeting averroes fought to medieval ViWrnQ6gA1M-01743-00449674-00449979 Europe in Spain and Italy Jewish ViWrnQ6gA1M-01744-00449980-00450213 translators such as Abraham do bombs and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01745-00450214-00450429 Jakob manteno translated Arabic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01746-00450430-00450627 philosophic literature into Hebrew and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01747-00450628-00450837 Latin contributing to the development of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01748-00450838-00451620 modern European philosophy topic later ViWrnQ6gA1M-01749-00451621-00452222 Islamic philosophy the death of Hebron ViWrnQ6gA1M-01750-00452224-00452457 Rushdie averroes effectively marks the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01751-00452458-00452622 end of a particular discipline of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01752-00452622-00452832 Islamic philosophy usually called the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01753-00452833-00453000 Peripatetic Arabic school and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01754-00453001-00453192 philosophical activity declined ViWrnQ6gA1M-01755-00453193-00453384 significantly in Western Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01756-00453385-00453603 countries namely in Islamic Spain and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01757-00453604-00453795 North Africa though it persisted for ViWrnQ6gA1M-01758-00453796-00453993 much longer in the Eastern countries in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01759-00453993-00454308 particular Iran and India contrary to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01760-00454309-00454530 the traditional view dimitri cutters in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01761-00454531-00454770 the stanford encyclopedia of philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01762-00454771-00454995 consider the period between the 11th and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01763-00454996-00455264 14th centuries to be the true Golden Age ViWrnQ6gA1M-01764-00455266-00455508 of Arabic and Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01765-00455509-00455757 initiated by al-ghazali's successful ViWrnQ6gA1M-01766-00455758-00455958 integration of logic into the madrasa ViWrnQ6gA1M-01767-00455959-00456168 curriculum and the subsequent rise of a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01768-00456168-00456354 person ISM since the political power ViWrnQ6gA1M-01769-00456355-00456558 shift in Western Europe Spain and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01770-00456559-00456738 Portugal from Muslim to Christian ViWrnQ6gA1M-01771-00456739-00456963 control the Muslims naturally did not ViWrnQ6gA1M-01772-00456964-00457163 practice philosophy in Western Europe ViWrnQ6gA1M-01773-00457164-00457458 this also led to some loss of contact ViWrnQ6gA1M-01774-00457459-00457647 between the west and the east of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01775-00457647-00457914 Islamic world Muslims in the East ViWrnQ6gA1M-01776-00457914-00458175 continued to do philosophy as is evident ViWrnQ6gA1M-01777-00458176-00458355 from the works of Ottoman scholars and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01778-00458356-00458532 especially those living in Muslim ViWrnQ6gA1M-01779-00458533-00458693 kingdoms within the territories of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01780-00458695-00458895 present-day Iran and India such as ViWrnQ6gA1M-01781-00458896-00459239 Yahweh Leland Ahmad so Hindi this fact ViWrnQ6gA1M-01782-00459241-00459471 has escaped most pre-modern historians ViWrnQ6gA1M-01783-00459472-00459768 of Islamic or Arabic philosophy in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01784-00459768-00459984 addition logic has continued to be ViWrnQ6gA1M-01785-00459985-00460167 taught in religious seminaries up to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01786-00460168-00460518 modern times after even Rushdie there ViWrnQ6gA1M-01787-00460518-00460685 arose many later schools of islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01788-00460687-00460985 philosophy we can mention just a few ViWrnQ6gA1M-01789-00460987-00461250 such as those founded by even arabian ViWrnQ6gA1M-01790-00461251-00461391 shiite malasada ViWrnQ6gA1M-01791-00461392-00461601 these new schools are of particular ViWrnQ6gA1M-01792-00461602-00461822 importance as they are still active in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01793-00461824-00462108 the Islamic world the most important ViWrnQ6gA1M-01794-00462109-00462375 among them are school of illumination ViWrnQ6gA1M-01795-00462376-00462714 keep mat Ali shreak transcendent ViWrnQ6gA1M-01796-00462714-00462893 theosophy Hikmat Mattar ViWrnQ6gA1M-01797-00462893-00463343 Leigha Sufi philosophy traditionalist ViWrnQ6gA1M-01798-00463343-00464050 school aalverson ISM hick Matson RV ViWrnQ6gA1M-01799-00464051-00464741 topic illumination aschool illumination ViWrnQ6gA1M-01800-00464742-00464942 astre Lhasa fee was a school of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01801-00464943-00465179 philosophy founded by Shahabuddin sir ViWrnQ6gA1M-01802-00465180-00465464 awardee in the 12th century this school ViWrnQ6gA1M-01803-00465464-00465692 is a combination of a vasanas philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01804-00465693-00465910 and ancient iranian philosophy with many ViWrnQ6gA1M-01805-00465912-00466205 new innovative ideas of so awardee it is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01806-00466206-00466337 often described as having been ViWrnQ6gA1M-01807-00466338-00466693 influenced by Neoplatonism in logic in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01808-00466694-00466895 Islamic philosophy systematic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01809-00466896-00467102 refutations of Greek logic were written ViWrnQ6gA1M-01810-00467103-00467330 by the illumination aschool founded by ViWrnQ6gA1M-01811-00467331-00467750 Shahabuddin sir awardee 1155 to 1191 who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01812-00467751-00468029 developed the idea of decisive necessity ViWrnQ6gA1M-01813-00468030-00468278 an important innovation in the history ViWrnQ6gA1M-01814-00468279-00468913 of logical philosophical speculation ViWrnQ6gA1M-01815-00468914-00469583 topic transcendent school transcendent ViWrnQ6gA1M-01816-00469584-00469766 theosophy is the school of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01817-00469767-00469982 philosophy founded by malice ahdre in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01818-00469983-00470267 the 17th century his philosophy and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01819-00470268-00470477 ontology is considered to be just as ViWrnQ6gA1M-01820-00470478-00470660 important to Islamic philosophy as ViWrnQ6gA1M-01821-00470660-00470870 Marvin heidegger's philosophy later was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01822-00470871-00471056 to Western philosophy in the 20th ViWrnQ6gA1M-01823-00471057-00471364 century malice addre bought a new ViWrnQ6gA1M-01824-00471366-00471568 philosophical insight in dealing with ViWrnQ6gA1M-01825-00471569-00471881 the nature of reality and created a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01826-00471882-00472145 major transition from essentialism to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01827-00472146-00472457 existentialism in Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01828-00472458-00472664 several centuries before this occurred ViWrnQ6gA1M-01829-00472664-00472868 in Western philosophy the idea of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01830-00472868-00473213 essence precedes existence is a concept ViWrnQ6gA1M-01831-00473214-00473384 which dates back to eben Xena ViWrnQ6gA1M-01832-00473385-00473593 Avicenna and his school of Everson ISM ViWrnQ6gA1M-01833-00473594-00473810 as well as Shahabuddin so awardee and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01834-00473810-00474064 his illumination estas ephie the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01835-00474066-00474289 opposite idea of existence precedes ViWrnQ6gA1M-01836-00474291-00474581 essence was thus developed in the works ViWrnQ6gA1M-01837-00474582-00474797 of averroes and malasada as a reaction ViWrnQ6gA1M-01838-00474797-00475018 to this idea and is a key foundational ViWrnQ6gA1M-01839-00475019-00475345 concept of existentialism for malice ViWrnQ6gA1M-01840-00475346-00475618 addre existence precedes the essence and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01841-00475619-00475856 is thus principle since something has to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01842-00475857-00476033 exist first and then have an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01843-00476034-00476351 since this is primarily the argument ViWrnQ6gA1M-01844-00476352-00476531 that lies at the heart of malice address ViWrnQ6gA1M-01845-00476532-00476818 transcendent theosophy saeed july last ViWrnQ6gA1M-01846-00476819-00477070 eonni later summarized Mullis address ViWrnQ6gA1M-01847-00477071-00477377 concept as follows the existent being ViWrnQ6gA1M-01848-00477378-00477554 that has an essence must then be caused ViWrnQ6gA1M-01849-00477555-00477932 an existence that is pure existence is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01850-00477933-00478237 therefore a necessary being more careful ViWrnQ6gA1M-01851-00478238-00478420 approaches are needed in terms of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01852-00478421-00478570 thinking about philosophers and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01853-00478571-00478783 theologians in Islam in terms of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01854-00478784-00478922 phenomenological methods of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01855-00478922-00479135 Investigation in ontology or on to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01856-00479135-00479360 theology or by way of comparisons that ViWrnQ6gA1M-01857-00479360-00479528 are made with heidegger's thought in his ViWrnQ6gA1M-01858-00479529-00480175 critique of the history of metaphysics ViWrnQ6gA1M-01859-00480176-00480772 topic contemporary Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01860-00480772-00481072 the tradition of Islamic philosophy is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01861-00481073-00481318 still very much alive today particularly ViWrnQ6gA1M-01862-00481319-00481535 among followers of so awardees Hikmat ViWrnQ6gA1M-01863-00481535-00481778 ali shriek illumination philosophy and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01864-00481779-00481987 malice address Hikmat Emoto alia ViWrnQ6gA1M-01865-00481988-00482318 transcendent theosophy another figure is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01866-00482318-00482522 Muhammad Iqbal who reshaped and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01867-00482522-00482758 revitalized Islamic philosophy among the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01868-00482759-00482968 Muslims of the Indian subcontinent in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01869-00482969-00483118 the early 20th century ViWrnQ6gA1M-01870-00483118-00483377 he's the reconstruction of religious ViWrnQ6gA1M-01871-00483378-00483581 thought in Islam is a milestone in the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01872-00483582-00483818 modern political philosophy of Islam in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01873-00483818-00484016 contemporary Islamic regions the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01874-00484017-00484187 teaching of hip model hikmah has ViWrnQ6gA1M-01875-00484188-00484522 continued to flourish raha l'homme nee ViWrnQ6gA1M-01876-00484523-00484730 founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran ViWrnQ6gA1M-01877-00484731-00484949 was a teacher of the philosophical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01878-00484950-00485243 school of Hikmat Ulm Italia before the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01879-00485243-00485477 Islamic Revolution he was one of the few ViWrnQ6gA1M-01880-00485478-00485654 who formally taught philosophy at the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01881-00485655-00485987 religious Seminary a Tom Abdullah javadi ViWrnQ6gA1M-01882-00485988-00486247 a MOLLE Grand Ayatollah is an Iranian ViWrnQ6gA1M-01883-00486248-00486527 Twelver Shia Maha he is a conservative ViWrnQ6gA1M-01884-00486528-00486731 Iranian politician and one of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01885-00486732-00486922 prominent Islamic scholars of the halls ViWrnQ6gA1M-01886-00486923-00487297 Art Seminary in arm a magma light creamy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01887-00487298-00487505 afghan philosopher of religion and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01888-00487506-00487697 professor of Islamic philosophy at the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01889-00487697-00487966 University of Munster in Germany ViWrnQ6gA1M-01890-00487967-00488237 Mohammad tachi Mesbah Yazdi Grand ViWrnQ6gA1M-01891-00488238-00488437 Ayatollah is an Iranian Twelver Shia ViWrnQ6gA1M-01892-00488438-00488764 cleric advocate of Islamic philosophy ViWrnQ6gA1M-01893-00488765-00489139 particularly Hikmat Maria Gaidar Jamal ViWrnQ6gA1M-01894-00489140-00489364 Russian Islamic philosopher author of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01895-00489365-00489416 Orient ViWrnQ6gA1M-01896-00489417-00489713 Asian North Founding ideologist of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01897-00489714-00490097 Islamic Marxism muhammad hussein tabata ViWrnQ6gA1M-01898-00490097-00490343 b grand ayatollah iranian twelver shia ViWrnQ6gA1M-01899-00490343-00490625 cleric alameda beta by a author of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01900-00490626-00490883 numerous works including the 27 vol ViWrnQ6gA1M-01901-00490884-00491279 quranic commentary almas n Campo or ViWrnQ6gA1M-01902-00491280-00491474 Abdul Malik Karima muralha was a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01903-00491475-00491681 prominent Indonesian author a lamer ViWrnQ6gA1M-01904-00491682-00491909 politician philosophical thinker and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01905-00491910-00492206 author of Taffy al-azhar he was head of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01906-00492207-00492466 Indonesia's mufti council Mui he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01907-00492467-00492647 resigned when his fat war against the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01908-00492647-00492866 celebration of Christmas by Muslims was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01909-00492867-00493187 condemned by the Suharto regime highly ViWrnQ6gA1M-01910-00493188-00493382 respected in his country he was also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01911-00493383-00493672 appreciated in Malaysia and Singapore ViWrnQ6gA1M-01912-00493672-00493997 Murtaza mote re the best student of al ViWrnQ6gA1M-01913-00493997-00494177 Ahmar to batter by a martyr of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01914-00494178-00494513 Iranian Revolution in 1979 and author of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01915-00494514-00494666 numerous books and in complete ViWrnQ6gA1M-01916-00494667-00494927 compilation of his works comprises 25 ViWrnQ6gA1M-01917-00494928-00495241 volumes he liked his teachers Alamut to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01918-00495242-00495464 batter by an Ayatollah Khomeini belonged ViWrnQ6gA1M-01919-00495464-00495659 to the philosophical schools of Hikmat ViWrnQ6gA1M-01920-00495660-00496043 al-mu Talia Saeed a belay Lamora d who ViWrnQ6gA1M-01921-00496043-00496216 is credited with creating modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-01922-00496217-00496427 Islamist political thought in the 20th ViWrnQ6gA1M-01923-00496428-00496580 century was the founder of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01924-00496581-00496787 jamaat-e-islami and spent his life ViWrnQ6gA1M-01925-00496788-00496955 attempting to revive the Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01926-00496956-00497429 intellectual tradition his ramen 1932 to ViWrnQ6gA1M-01927-00497430-00497732 2010 was a pakistani islamic theologian ViWrnQ6gA1M-01928-00497733-00497933 followed particularly in south asia and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01929-00497934-00498172 also among the South Asian Diaspora in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01930-00498173-00498356 the Middle East Western Europe and North ViWrnQ6gA1M-01931-00498357-00498691 America founder of the Tanzania islami ViWrnQ6gA1M-01932-00498692-00498956 an offshoot of the jamaat-e-islami he ViWrnQ6gA1M-01933-00498957-00499166 was significant scholar of Islam and the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01934-00499167-00499652 Quran Muhammad Hamidah LUP 1908 to 2002 ViWrnQ6gA1M-01935-00499653-00499922 belonged to a family of scholars jurists ViWrnQ6gA1M-01936-00499922-00500170 writers and Sufis he was a ViWrnQ6gA1M-01937-00500171-00500363 world-renowned scholar of Islam an ViWrnQ6gA1M-01938-00500364-00500566 international law from India who was ViWrnQ6gA1M-01939-00500567-00500770 known for contributions to the research ViWrnQ6gA1M-01940-00500771-00500999 of the history of hadith translations of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01941-00501000-00501214 the Quran the advancement of golden age ViWrnQ6gA1M-01942-00501216-00501368 Islamic learning and to the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01943-00501368-00501575 dissemination of Islamic teachings in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01944-00501576-00501730 the Western world ViWrnQ6gA1M-01945-00501731-00501956 fazlullah Rahman was professor of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01946-00501957-00502133 Islamic thought at the University of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01947-00502134-00502445 Chicago where head hath I am first ViWrnQ6gA1M-01948-00502446-00502657 Indonesian minister of Religious Affairs ViWrnQ6gA1M-01949-00502658-00502817 former head of in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01950-00502818-00503024 neide wattle Alima and founder of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01951-00503025-00503268 Islamic state universities in Indonesia ViWrnQ6gA1M-01952-00503270-00503555 he is best known for Reformation of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01953-00503556-00503914 madrasa curriculum say iron Hossein Nasr ViWrnQ6gA1M-01954-00503916-00504170 iranian university professor of Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01955-00504171-00504478 studies at George Washington University ViWrnQ6gA1M-01956-00504479-00504731 Javed Ahmad gamma D is a well-known ViWrnQ6gA1M-01957-00504732-00505037 Pakistani Islamic scholar Exadata and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01958-00505038-00505292 educator a former member of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01959-00505293-00505568 jamaat-e-islami who extended the work of ViWrnQ6gA1M-01960-00505568-00505877 his tutor our mina-san isla he in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01961-00505878-00506180 malaysia syed mohammed nak evaluators is ViWrnQ6gA1M-01962-00506181-00506474 a prominent metaphysical thinker ali ViWrnQ6gA1M-01963-00506475-00506741 shariati iranian revolutionary thinker ViWrnQ6gA1M-01964-00506742-00506987 and sociologist who focused on Marxism ViWrnQ6gA1M-01965-00506988-00507362 and islam Abu Abdulrahman even Akhil ViWrnQ6gA1M-01966-00507363-00507455 owls are Harry ViWrnQ6gA1M-01967-00507456-00507793 born 1942 is a Saudi Arabian polymath ViWrnQ6gA1M-01968-00507795-00507971 primarily focused on the reconciliation ViWrnQ6gA1M-01969-00507972-00508376 of Reason and revelation Mohammad Baqir ViWrnQ6gA1M-01970-00508377-00508685 al-sadr died 1980 is a Shiite Grand ViWrnQ6gA1M-01971-00508685-00508838 Ayatollah and one of the most ViWrnQ6gA1M-01972-00508839-00509051 influential Islamic philosophers of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01973-00509052-00509375 twentieth century his two most important ViWrnQ6gA1M-01974-00509376-00509593 contributions to philosophy of his books ViWrnQ6gA1M-01975-00509595-00509912 our philosophy and the logical ViWrnQ6gA1M-01976-00509913-00510083 foundations of induction ViWrnQ6gA1M-01977-00510084-00510347 he is also widely known for his work on ViWrnQ6gA1M-01978-00510347-00510646 economics including our economics and ViWrnQ6gA1M-01979-00510647-00511022 the non usury banking system which are ViWrnQ6gA1M-01980-00511022-00511222 two of the most influential works in ViWrnQ6gA1M-01981-00511224-00512014 contemporary Islamic economics topic ViWrnQ6gA1M-01982-00512016-00512442 criticism ViWrnQ6gA1M-01983-00512443-00512637 philosophy has not been without ViWrnQ6gA1M-01984-00512638-00512817 criticism amongst Muslims both ViWrnQ6gA1M-01985-00512818-00513127 contemporary and past the Imam Ahmad ViWrnQ6gA1M-01986-00513128-00513306 even handle for whom the Han Valley ViWrnQ6gA1M-01987-00513307-00513508 school of thought is named rebuked ViWrnQ6gA1M-01988-00513509-00513714 philosophical discussion once telling ViWrnQ6gA1M-01989-00513715-00513897 proponents of it that he was securing ViWrnQ6gA1M-01990-00513898-00514116 his religion but that they were in doubt ViWrnQ6gA1M-01991-00514117-00514368 so go to a doubter and argue with him ViWrnQ6gA1M-01992-00514369-00514572 instead today ViWrnQ6gA1M-01993-00514573-00514810 Islamic philosophical thought has also ViWrnQ6gA1M-01994-00514810-00515004 been criticized by scholars of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-01995-00515005-00515292 modern Salafi movement there would be ViWrnQ6gA1M-01996-00515293-00515475 many Islamic thinkers who were not ViWrnQ6gA1M-01997-00515476-00515700 enthusiastic about its potential but it ViWrnQ6gA1M-01998-00515701-00515860 would be incorrect to assume that they ViWrnQ6gA1M-01999-00515860-00516081 opposed philosophy simply because it was ViWrnQ6gA1M-02000-00516082-00516252 a foreign science ViWrnQ6gA1M-02001-00516253-00516516 Oliver Lehmann an expert on Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-02002-00516517-00516675 philosophy points out that the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02003-00516676-00516873 objections of notable theologians are ViWrnQ6gA1M-02004-00516874-00517095 rarely directed at philosophy itself but ViWrnQ6gA1M-02005-00517096-00517237 rather at the conclusions the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02006-00517238-00517518 philosophers arrived at even the 11th ViWrnQ6gA1M-02007-00517519-00517569 century ViWrnQ6gA1M-02008-00517570-00517804 al-ghazali known for his incoherence of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02009-00517805-00517929 the philosophers critique of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02010-00517930-00518139 philosophers was himself an expert in ViWrnQ6gA1M-02011-00518140-00518442 philosophy and logic his criticism was ViWrnQ6gA1M-02012-00518443-00518608 that they arrived at theologically ViWrnQ6gA1M-02013-00518609-00518856 erroneous conclusions in his view the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02014-00518857-00519021 three most serious of these were ViWrnQ6gA1M-02015-00519022-00519192 believing in the KO eternity of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02016-00519193-00519393 universe with God denying the bodily ViWrnQ6gA1M-02017-00519394-00519600 resurrection and asserting that God only ViWrnQ6gA1M-02018-00519601-00519837 has knowledge of abstract universals not ViWrnQ6gA1M-02019-00519838-00520029 of particular things though it should be ViWrnQ6gA1M-02020-00520030-00520179 noted that not all philosophers ViWrnQ6gA1M-02021-00520180-00520416 subscribe to these same views in recent ViWrnQ6gA1M-02022-00520417-00520612 studies by Muslim contemporary thinkers ViWrnQ6gA1M-02023-00520613-00520833 that aim at renewing the impetus of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02024-00520834-00521097 philosophical thinking in Islam the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02025-00521098-00521298 philosopher and theorist nadir lbs ViWrnQ6gA1M-02026-00521299-00521500 reoffer z-- a critical analysis of the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02027-00521501-00521706 conventions that dominate mainstream ViWrnQ6gA1M-02028-00521707-00521914 academic and epistemic approaches in ViWrnQ6gA1M-02029-00521914-00522181 studying Islamic philosophy these ViWrnQ6gA1M-02030-00522182-00522360 approaches of methodology and ViWrnQ6gA1M-02031-00522361-00522537 historiography are looked at from ViWrnQ6gA1M-02032-00522538-00522756 archival stand points within Oriental ViWrnQ6gA1M-02033-00522757-00522927 and medievalist studies fail to ViWrnQ6gA1M-02034-00522928-00523129 recognize the fact that philosophy in ViWrnQ6gA1M-02035-00523130-00523360 Islam can still be a living intellectual ViWrnQ6gA1M-02036-00523360-00523656 tradition he maintains that it's renewal ViWrnQ6gA1M-02037-00523657-00523866 requires a radical reform in ontology ViWrnQ6gA1M-02038-00523867-00524139 and epistemology within Islamic thought ViWrnQ6gA1M-02039-00524139-00524367 elby's raised interpretations of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02040-00524368-00524547 Avicenna even seen up from the ViWrnQ6gA1M-02041-00524548-00524727 standpoint of Heidegger's critique of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02042-00524728-00524883 the history of metaphysics and ViWrnQ6gA1M-02043-00524884-00525085 specifically against the background of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02044-00525086-00525231 the unfolding of the essence of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02045-00525232-00525462 technology aim at finding new pathways ViWrnQ6gA1M-02046-00525463-00525665 in ontology that are not simply ViWrnQ6gA1M-02047-00525666-00525884 pacinian or hider Geryon even though ill ViWrnQ6gA1M-02048-00525885-00526073 bursaries approach in rethinking full ViWrnQ6gA1M-02049-00526074-00526352 suffer amounts to a neo Avastin ISM that ViWrnQ6gA1M-02050-00526353-00526604 carries resonances with novel modern ViWrnQ6gA1M-02051-00526605-00526748 philosophical ways of reading ViWrnQ6gA1M-02052-00526749-00527063 Aristotelian ISM and Thomism l besra ViWrnQ6gA1M-02053-00527064-00527219 engages contemporary issues in ViWrnQ6gA1M-02054-00527220-00527402 philosophy through a fundamental ViWrnQ6gA1M-02055-00527403-00527591 critical analytic of the evolution of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02056-00527592-00527792 key concepts in the history of ontology ViWrnQ6gA1M-02057-00527793-00528110 and epistemology Nader L besra is a ViWrnQ6gA1M-02058-00528111-00528302 modernist in Outlook since he aims at ViWrnQ6gA1M-02059-00528303-00528473 bringing newness to the tradition rather ViWrnQ6gA1M-02060-00528474-00528674 than simply reproduce it or being in ViWrnQ6gA1M-02061-00528675-00529853 rupture with it topic see also early ViWrnQ6gA1M-02062-00529854-00530204 Islamic philosophy contemporary Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-02063-00530205-00530648 philosophy Islamic ethics Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-02064-00530649-00531128 metaphysics Islamic Golden Age Islamic ViWrnQ6gA1M-02065-00531129-00531569 science his Lama and modernity list of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02066-00531570-00532402 Islamic studies scholars our AQL l fa al ViWrnQ6gA1M-02067-00532403-00533188 topic notes and references citations ViWrnQ6gA1M-02068-00533189-00533525 topic bibliography Corbin Henry April 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history of Islamic philosophy part one ViWrnQ6gA1M-02111-00547700-00548062 by Henry Corbin international journal of ViWrnQ6gA1M-02112-00548063-00548446 Islamic thoughts III tease ViaZlZLeTBA-00000-00000003-00000238 from the silicon angle media office in ViaZlZLeTBA-00001-00000239-00000377 Boston Massachusetts ViaZlZLeTBA-00002-00000378-00000784 it's the queue now here's your host ViaZlZLeTBA-00003-00000785-00001494 David on tape ViaZlZLeTBA-00004-00001495-00001800 very often that's Silicon angle media ViaZlZLeTBA-00005-00001801-00001975 companies will come in and they'll ViaZlZLeTBA-00006-00001976-00002137 present to us about the new product that ViaZlZLeTBA-00007-00002138-00002296 they're announcing and we'll really have ViaZlZLeTBA-00008-00002297-00002494 a deep detailed product discussion on ViaZlZLeTBA-00009-00002495-00002817 speeds and feeds but in this cube ViaZlZLeTBA-00010-00002818-00003046 conversation I really want to talk about ViaZlZLeTBA-00011-00003047-00003379 the API economy my name is Dave Volante ViaZlZLeTBA-00012-00003379-00003543 I'm here with my friend Steve Kenaston ViaZlZLeTBA-00013-00003544-00003739 Steve great to see you again thanks for ViaZlZLeTBA-00014-00003740-00003853 coming into the studio thanks for having ViaZlZLeTBA-00015-00003854-00004090 me on the cube Dave I love it here so ViaZlZLeTBA-00016-00004090-00004318 the API economy is something that you ViaZlZLeTBA-00017-00004319-00004461 hear all the time and as I was saying at ViaZlZLeTBA-00018-00004462-00004704 the top you know a lot of vendors will ViaZlZLeTBA-00019-00004705-00004852 come in and say hey we got this big ViaZlZLeTBA-00020-00004853-00004975 product that we're going to announce ViaZlZLeTBA-00021-00004976-00005242 next week or you know next month and we ViaZlZLeTBA-00022-00005243-00005386 want to pick a thought leadership topic ViaZlZLeTBA-00023-00005387-00005572 and we want a vector our product into ViaZlZLeTBA-00024-00005573-00005770 that and you know it's good it's it's ViaZlZLeTBA-00025-00005771-00005992 great to do that it's trying to be be ViaZlZLeTBA-00026-00005993-00006129 relevant but what I want to talk to you ViaZlZLeTBA-00027-00006130-00006456 about is this this notion of of cloud ViaZlZLeTBA-00028-00006458-00006738 and the API economy and how it's emerged ViaZlZLeTBA-00029-00006739-00007258 in the network today so I want to start ViaZlZLeTBA-00030-00007259-00007690 with a developer perspective and if you ViaZlZLeTBA-00031-00007691-00007930 think about the way infrastructure has ViaZlZLeTBA-00032-00007931-00008170 traditionally been deployed and what it ViaZlZLeTBA-00033-00008170-00008344 means for a developer can you help us ViaZlZLeTBA-00034-00008345-00008737 understand that old view of the world ViaZlZLeTBA-00035-00008738-00008878 and how it worked ViaZlZLeTBA-00036-00008879-00009156 sure thing Dave and by the way thanks ViaZlZLeTBA-00037-00009157-00009313 for doing this right having been on both ViaZlZLeTBA-00038-00009314-00009517 sides of the of the table the analyst ViaZlZLeTBA-00039-00009518-00009735 side as well as the vendor side you ViaZlZLeTBA-00040-00009736-00009859 couldn't have hit the nail more on the ViaZlZLeTBA-00041-00009860-00010074 head right vendors like to come in and ViaZlZLeTBA-00042-00010075-00010219 talk about product and talk to the ViaZlZLeTBA-00043-00010220-00010467 analysts about how how their product ViaZlZLeTBA-00044-00010468-00010687 fits into what what you guys are hearing ViaZlZLeTBA-00045-00010688-00010906 in the market space but I think what's ViaZlZLeTBA-00046-00010907-00011053 happening more and more is this ViaZlZLeTBA-00047-00011054-00011248 evolution of the of the conversation ViaZlZLeTBA-00048-00011249-00011523 that needs to happen that sells ViaZlZLeTBA-00049-00011524-00011733 sells to people who are trying to solve ViaZlZLeTBA-00050-00011734-00011924 business problems not solved speeds and ViaZlZLeTBA-00051-00011925-00012183 feeds problems right so as you look at ViaZlZLeTBA-00052-00012184-00012396 the API economy right and you think back ViaZlZLeTBA-00053-00012397-00012617 to when infrastructure vendors were ViaZlZLeTBA-00054-00012618-00012830 traditionally selling infrastructure the ViaZlZLeTBA-00055-00012831-00013140 conversation was always about I wouldn't ViaZlZLeTBA-00056-00013141-00013344 even say a DevOps style I think that's ViaZlZLeTBA-00057-00013344-00013544 fairly new I think it was a test dev ViaZlZLeTBA-00058-00013545-00013791 style right that was a developer ViaZlZLeTBA-00059-00013791-00014049 developing some code tossing it over the ViaZlZLeTBA-00060-00014050-00014274 wall and some operations people trying ViaZlZLeTBA-00061-00014275-00014457 to install it and the minute that ViaZlZLeTBA-00062-00014458-00014846 happened right of course that code set ViaZlZLeTBA-00063-00014847-00015075 didn't fulfill all the requirements that ViaZlZLeTBA-00064-00015076-00015393 were needed by the by the vendor or by ViaZlZLeTBA-00065-00015394-00015543 the business right it wasn't secure ViaZlZLeTBA-00066-00015544-00015791 enough it wasn't it didn't have all the ViaZlZLeTBA-00067-00015793-00016110 right capabilities to fit into the ViaZlZLeTBA-00068-00016111-00016302 infrastructure wasn't patched what ViaZlZLeTBA-00069-00016303-00016550 integration talked to the rights the ViaZlZLeTBA-00070-00016551-00016791 punch list of stuff read operations guys ViaZlZLeTBA-00071-00016792-00017016 have to go through their developers they ViaZlZLeTBA-00072-00017017-00017283 didn't know I didn't know didn't care ViaZlZLeTBA-00073-00017284-00017408 right I didn't understand how the ViaZlZLeTBA-00074-00017409-00017565 database was laid out so it talks to it ViaZlZLeTBA-00075-00017566-00017769 in a different way so traditionally what ViaZlZLeTBA-00076-00017770-00018071 would happen then is the is the the ViaZlZLeTBA-00077-00018072-00018291 implementation guys would say ok here ViaZlZLeTBA-00078-00018292-00018588 let me let me go fix this and then do ViaZlZLeTBA-00079-00018589-00018738 some fixing of it and then try to deploy ViaZlZLeTBA-00080-00018739-00019034 it and it wouldn't work behaviorally the ViaZlZLeTBA-00081-00019035-00019181 way the developer had designed it and ViaZlZLeTBA-00082-00019182-00019434 then there'd be this conflict right huh ViaZlZLeTBA-00083-00019435-00019575 you know it's not it's not it's not ViaZlZLeTBA-00084-00019576-00019758 working right right well it worked when ViaZlZLeTBA-00085-00019759-00019914 I gave it to you hey your application ViaZlZLeTBA-00086-00019915-00020075 doesn't work right you tell a guy hey ViaZlZLeTBA-00087-00020076-00020244 your code doesn't work that's the last ViaZlZLeTBA-00088-00020245-00020384 thing an application developer and that ViaZlZLeTBA-00089-00020385-00020559 process what worked when I gave it to ViaZlZLeTBA-00090-00020560-00020862 you like yes exactly and but but another ViaZlZLeTBA-00091-00020863-00020991 point you made is a lot create a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00092-00020992-00021206 tension a lot of tension and the process ViaZlZLeTBA-00093-00021207-00021430 in himself became very very inefficient ViaZlZLeTBA-00094-00021431-00021714 which then you saw the spinning up of ViaZlZLeTBA-00095-00021715-00021975 boy I know now the business guy the ViaZlZLeTBA-00096-00021976-00022322 business says where's my app right all ViaZlZLeTBA-00097-00022323-00022469 right and and meanwhile yet the ViaZlZLeTBA-00098-00022470-00022689 application development team and the ViaZlZLeTBA-00099-00022690-00022875 deployment team sort of doing this back ViaZlZLeTBA-00100-00022876-00023003 and forth back and forth back and forth ViaZlZLeTBA-00101-00023004-00023166 and you know they're trying to work ViaZlZLeTBA-00102-00023167-00023387 together but the line of business isn't ViaZlZLeTBA-00103-00023388-00023562 getting the solution that they need to ViaZlZLeTBA-00104-00023563-00023819 be to drive a competitive business so ViaZlZLeTBA-00105-00023820-00024062 time to value was was impacted ViaZlZLeTBA-00106-00024063-00024459 substantially ok so then actually as you ViaZlZLeTBA-00107-00024460-00024592 came out of ViaZlZLeTBA-00108-00024593-00025174 the downturn 2009-2010 you saw shadow IT ViaZlZLeTBA-00109-00025175-00025449 emerge right so from your perspective ViaZlZLeTBA-00110-00025450-00025839 what did that bring to the table in this ViaZlZLeTBA-00111-00025841-00026077 conversation I think the biggest thing ViaZlZLeTBA-00112-00026077-00026236 shadow IT brought brought to the ViaZlZLeTBA-00113-00026237-00026404 conversation is the whole notion of ViaZlZLeTBA-00114-00026405-00026737 cloud right cloud was yeah it's there we ViaZlZLeTBA-00115-00026738-00026905 still see the number one reason why ViaZlZLeTBA-00116-00026906-00027045 people use cloud is for data protection ViaZlZLeTBA-00117-00027047-00027205 I want to back it up there I think it's ViaZlZLeTBA-00118-00027206-00027364 cheaper it's not tape but do you get rid ViaZlZLeTBA-00119-00027364-00027508 of a lot of that management capability ViaZlZLeTBA-00120-00027508-00027901 of 2 or test dev but but I think test ViaZlZLeTBA-00121-00027902-00028137 dev right is slowly becoming even ViaZlZLeTBA-00122-00028138-00028330 growing more and more because of this ViaZlZLeTBA-00123-00028331-00028498 whole notion around shadow IT it was ViaZlZLeTBA-00124-00028499-00028780 look every time I toss this thing over ViaZlZLeTBA-00125-00028781-00029185 the wall to to the the folks that need ViaZlZLeTBA-00126-00029186-00029443 to implement the solution I get a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00127-00029444-00029577 pushback and to your point it creates a ViaZlZLeTBA-00128-00029578-00029785 lot of this tension I'm gonna go create ViaZlZLeTBA-00129-00029786-00030102 my own way to develop this and I'm gonna ViaZlZLeTBA-00130-00030103-00030246 do all the development of that of that ViaZlZLeTBA-00131-00030247-00030477 in the cloud I'm not gonna wait for ViaZlZLeTBA-00132-00030478-00030610 things to be provisioned for me I'm not ViaZlZLeTBA-00133-00030611-00030775 gonna wait for things to be tested and ViaZlZLeTBA-00134-00030776-00030933 tell me I'm a bad developer that sort of ViaZlZLeTBA-00135-00030935-00030958 thing ViaZlZLeTBA-00136-00030958-00031114 I'm gonna go develop the code that I ViaZlZLeTBA-00137-00031114-00031351 want and say well I'm done it works and ViaZlZLeTBA-00138-00031352-00031533 then hand it off and because it's in the ViaZlZLeTBA-00139-00031534-00031815 cloud hopefully the folks that need to ViaZlZLeTBA-00140-00031816-00031981 deploy can attach to the cloud and all ViaZlZLeTBA-00141-00031982-00032080 of a sudden everything works the way ViaZlZLeTBA-00142-00032081-00032404 it's supposed to right still misses a ViaZlZLeTBA-00143-00032405-00032670 lot of things that the corporation means ViaZlZLeTBA-00144-00032672-00032962 from a protection security standpoint am ViaZlZLeTBA-00145-00032963-00033082 i working with the right data set ViaZlZLeTBA-00146-00033083-00033295 standpoint does the database look the ViaZlZLeTBA-00147-00033296-00033493 same way it does here because because ViaZlZLeTBA-00148-00033494-00033640 when you develop a piece of code you ViaZlZLeTBA-00149-00033641-00033820 wanted to run it and act against ViaZlZLeTBA-00150-00033821-00033996 probably some components within your ViaZlZLeTBA-00151-00033997-00034210 infrastructure is that happening right ViaZlZLeTBA-00152-00034211-00034387 and there's still the big question but ViaZlZLeTBA-00153-00034388-00034633 the PIFAN II from developers as a ViaZlZLeTBA-00154-00034634-00034890 process of that shadow IT as Wow I can ViaZlZLeTBA-00155-00034891-00035137 essentially deploy infrastructure as ViaZlZLeTBA-00156-00035138-00035340 code correct and then when that hit ViaZlZLeTBA-00157-00035341-00035527 that's when you really started to hear ViaZlZLeTBA-00158-00035528-00035733 the the discussion of DevOps the whole ViaZlZLeTBA-00159-00035734-00036124 DevOps meme exploded although you know I ViaZlZLeTBA-00160-00036125-00036252 would observe when we talked a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00161-00036253-00036364 people on the cube about this is a ViaZlZLeTBA-00162-00036365-00036627 DevOps or is it ops dev what does that ViaZlZLeTBA-00163-00036628-00036933 really mean what it means is that most ViaZlZLeTBA-00164-00036934-00037207 organizations at least up until recently ViaZlZLeTBA-00165-00037208-00037435 and I still say most organizations don't ViaZlZLeTBA-00166-00037436-00037654 have infrastructure as a code on prem if ViaZlZLeTBA-00167-00037655-00037795 they want that they got to go to you ViaZlZLeTBA-00168-00037796-00037961 know one of the public cloud providers ViaZlZLeTBA-00169-00037962-00038177 and so that but they're looking for that ViaZlZLeTBA-00170-00038178-00038432 public cloud experience on Prem and so ViaZlZLeTBA-00171-00038433-00038855 you had a lot of sort of opposite of Ops ViaZlZLeTBA-00172-00038856-00039137 guys sort of learning the the ViaZlZLeTBA-00173-00039138-00039346 development piece that was relevant for ViaZlZLeTBA-00174-00039347-00039539 deployment and the vendor community ViaZlZLeTBA-00175-00039540-00039794 stepping up and in delivering more of an ViaZlZLeTBA-00176-00039795-00040136 API oriented experience I think a big ViaZlZLeTBA-00177-00040137-00040295 part of that - Dave - what you're just ViaZlZLeTBA-00178-00040296-00040460 saying is now all of a sudden the ops ViaZlZLeTBA-00179-00040461-00040898 guys we're learning things that was a ViaZlZLeTBA-00180-00040899-00041042 little outside their comfort zone right ViaZlZLeTBA-00181-00041043-00041411 and because of that I probably a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00182-00041412-00041690 folks got frustrated right so the ViaZlZLeTBA-00183-00041691-00042008 vendors to your point right I have made ViaZlZLeTBA-00184-00042009-00042236 it a little bit easier to be able to ViaZlZLeTBA-00185-00042237-00042431 deploy this through an API economy or ViaZlZLeTBA-00186-00042432-00042683 through api's why because they've ViaZlZLeTBA-00187-00042684-00042887 started to automate a lot of the lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00188-00042888-00043067 the learning and the thinking because ViaZlZLeTBA-00189-00043068-00043217 it's pretty simple when you have ViaZlZLeTBA-00190-00043218-00043424 infrastructure is code there's a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00191-00043425-00043634 things you can do right programmatically ViaZlZLeTBA-00192-00043635-00043811 now it can take that learning way and ViaZlZLeTBA-00193-00043812-00044015 put the put the Ops guys back in charge ViaZlZLeTBA-00194-00044016-00044212 of arts right I don't need to go learn ViaZlZLeTBA-00195-00044213-00044444 dev right maybe understand it so when ViaZlZLeTBA-00196-00044445-00044621 they hand it to me I know I know what ViaZlZLeTBA-00197-00044622-00045040 I'm doing right but but that whole API ViaZlZLeTBA-00198-00045041-00045271 conversation is now moving away from ViaZlZLeTBA-00199-00045272-00045554 education but more towards the the true ViaZlZLeTBA-00200-00045555-00045767 fulfillment and building out of you know ViaZlZLeTBA-00201-00045768-00045917 these new applications that are making ViaZlZLeTBA-00202-00045918-00046067 businesses more competitive all right so ViaZlZLeTBA-00203-00046068-00046535 when you think about the API economy you ViaZlZLeTBA-00204-00046536-00046688 know that term gets thrown around a lot ViaZlZLeTBA-00205-00046689-00046937 what does that mean to you to me to me ViaZlZLeTBA-00206-00046938-00047285 the API economy if you look at it think ViaZlZLeTBA-00207-00047286-00047429 of it think of a great use case right I ViaZlZLeTBA-00208-00047430-00047608 would think of a use case around ViaZlZLeTBA-00209-00047609-00047843 manufacturing right if you think of a ViaZlZLeTBA-00210-00047844-00048107 manufacturing company or manufacturing ViaZlZLeTBA-00211-00048108-00048458 organization you have your suppliers ViaZlZLeTBA-00212-00048459-00048635 right and we all know that just-in-time ViaZlZLeTBA-00213-00048636-00048812 manufacturing is kind of the way to do ViaZlZLeTBA-00214-00048813-00048890 business today ViaZlZLeTBA-00215-00048891-00049106 you have your manufacturing on the floor ViaZlZLeTBA-00216-00049107-00049283 and we also and we know that a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00217-00049284-00049445 systems are doing a lot of components ViaZlZLeTBA-00218-00049446-00049610 within the manufacturing and these ViaZlZLeTBA-00219-00049611-00049787 systems are getting smarter and being ViaZlZLeTBA-00220-00049788-00049976 able to learn and tell tell you when ViaZlZLeTBA-00221-00049977-00050129 things are broken and not working right ViaZlZLeTBA-00222-00050130-00050287 so you're actually getting real-time ViaZlZLeTBA-00223-00050288-00050468 service right to keep the floor running ViaZlZLeTBA-00224-00050469-00050675 as fast as possible now all of a sudden ViaZlZLeTBA-00225-00050676-00050864 your inventory is now moving to some ViaZlZLeTBA-00226-00050865-00051032 sort of inventory control system and ViaZlZLeTBA-00227-00051033-00051192 those systems are talking ViaZlZLeTBA-00228-00051193-00051416 the vendors who are or yeah the vendors ViaZlZLeTBA-00229-00051417-00051617 who are buying that inventory to then go ViaZlZLeTBA-00230-00051619-00051837 sell to the public are working with ViaZlZLeTBA-00231-00051838-00052013 api's to be able to talk to that ViaZlZLeTBA-00232-00052014-00052176 inventory and see what they need when ViaZlZLeTBA-00233-00052177-00052410 they need it and then and then in turn ViaZlZLeTBA-00234-00052411-00052569 those vendors are selling to the ViaZlZLeTBA-00235-00052570-00052791 consumer and the consumer is using ViaZlZLeTBA-00236-00052791-00052932 social media now then I'll pick up the ViaZlZLeTBA-00237-00052933-00053069 phone and call in for customer service ViaZlZLeTBA-00238-00053070-00053271 right there they're saying hey this ViaZlZLeTBA-00239-00053272-00053484 sweater is really nice or hey my iPod ViaZlZLeTBA-00240-00053485-00053835 broke or whatever so you need as the ViaZlZLeTBA-00241-00053836-00054078 original manufacturer right to be able ViaZlZLeTBA-00242-00054079-00054312 to be tapped into these channels to get ViaZlZLeTBA-00243-00054313-00054504 that information and it's a circle and ViaZlZLeTBA-00244-00054504-00054704 then that circle it's really all held ViaZlZLeTBA-00245-00054705-00055013 together with code okay so that brings ViaZlZLeTBA-00246-00055014-00055353 me to sort of the discussion of of cloud ViaZlZLeTBA-00247-00055354-00055563 and essentially what organization we ViaZlZLeTBA-00248-00055564-00055737 talked about DevOps versus ops dead ViaZlZLeTBA-00249-00055738-00055979 before I would posit that the ViaZlZLeTBA-00250-00055979-00056178 organization's application development ViaZlZLeTBA-00251-00056179-00056567 heads CIOs they want that cloud likes ViaZlZLeTBA-00252-00056569-00056804 experience and they want it wherever ViaZlZLeTBA-00253-00056805-00057009 wherever their data is they're not going ViaZlZLeTBA-00254-00057010-00057113 to bring all their data into the cloud ViaZlZLeTBA-00255-00057114-00057459 too much data governance compliance ViaZlZLeTBA-00256-00057460-00057704 security all that stuff so they're going ViaZlZLeTBA-00257-00057705-00057885 to bring the cloud operating model to ViaZlZLeTBA-00258-00057886-00058082 their to their data which means they're ViaZlZLeTBA-00259-00058083-00058437 going to bring the API economy to their ViaZlZLeTBA-00260-00058438-00058653 data whatever that exists in the cloud ViaZlZLeTBA-00261-00058654-00058982 on Prem at the edge someplace in between ViaZlZLeTBA-00262-00058983-00059412 the cloud and the edge and and so I want ViaZlZLeTBA-00263-00059413-00059717 to get your perspectives on how that's ViaZlZLeTBA-00264-00059719-00059982 evolving in your view and where it needs ViaZlZLeTBA-00265-00059983-00060237 to go ViaZlZLeTBA-00266-00060238-00060767 oh that's evolving yeah I mean where are ViaZlZLeTBA-00267-00060769-00060984 we today in terms of being able to ViaZlZLeTBA-00268-00060985-00061184 programmatically across my ViaZlZLeTBA-00269-00061185-00061545 infrastructure cloud on-premise be able ViaZlZLeTBA-00270-00061546-00061740 to control my infrastructure ViaZlZLeTBA-00271-00061741-00061953 programmatically and get it to do what I ViaZlZLeTBA-00272-00061954-00062129 want in the same way that I could do ViaZlZLeTBA-00273-00062130-00062400 that in the cloud I think I think that ViaZlZLeTBA-00274-00062401-00062589 that's a really good question and and as ViaZlZLeTBA-00275-00062590-00062804 I think about it I think there are ViaZlZLeTBA-00276-00062805-00063060 different organizations or there are ViaZlZLeTBA-00277-00063061-00063189 different vendors who have been able to ViaZlZLeTBA-00278-00063190-00063764 provide solutions to clients in a in a ViaZlZLeTBA-00279-00063765-00064292 in a way such that there are vendors of ViaZlZLeTBA-00280-00064294-00064500 vendors who have provided solutions to ViaZlZLeTBA-00281-00064501-00064797 clients that have done so in such a way ViaZlZLeTBA-00282-00064798-00065094 that it's not holistic across your ViaZlZLeTBA-00283-00065095-00065235 different infrastructure components as ViaZlZLeTBA-00284-00065236-00065361 you and I think about infrastructure ViaZlZLeTBA-00285-00065362-00065559 well the storage servers networking etc ViaZlZLeTBA-00286-00065560-00065808 right I think different vendors and ViaZlZLeTBA-00287-00065809-00065961 different segments have done a better ViaZlZLeTBA-00288-00065962-00066210 job think of chef and puppet right chef ViaZlZLeTBA-00289-00066211-00066381 and puppet have gone a long way to the ViaZlZLeTBA-00290-00066382-00066579 provision of servers and systems to be ViaZlZLeTBA-00291-00066580-00066852 able to spin up systems that then then ViaZlZLeTBA-00292-00066853-00067247 in turn go build an operations around ViaZlZLeTBA-00293-00067248-00067571 driving you know building an application ViaZlZLeTBA-00294-00067572-00067899 testing an application passing that ViaZlZLeTBA-00295-00067900-00068072 testing process through a series of ViaZlZLeTBA-00296-00068073-00068391 automated tests processes and then ViaZlZLeTBA-00297-00068392-00068544 passing it back to development to go fix ViaZlZLeTBA-00298-00068545-00068751 it right I don't know that you see the ViaZlZLeTBA-00299-00068752-00068973 same type of the same level of ViaZlZLeTBA-00300-00068974-00069126 automation that you see that maybe at ViaZlZLeTBA-00301-00069127-00069342 the server level in the storage level ViaZlZLeTBA-00302-00069343-00069651 yet yeah I say yet all of that is coming ViaZlZLeTBA-00303-00069652-00069798 I see more and more that when you think ViaZlZLeTBA-00304-00069799-00070068 of technologies coming around down the ViaZlZLeTBA-00305-00070069-00070239 pipe like a copy management ViaZlZLeTBA-00306-00070240-00070506 functionality right the ability to reuse ViaZlZLeTBA-00307-00070507-00070812 data now that whole environment it ViaZlZLeTBA-00308-00070813-00070953 started a while ago but you see it ViaZlZLeTBA-00309-00070954-00071220 evolving more the tools to then automate ViaZlZLeTBA-00310-00071221-00071373 a lot of that process are now starting ViaZlZLeTBA-00311-00071374-00071520 to come to fruition it hadn't been there ViaZlZLeTBA-00312-00071521-00071637 before but they're starting to come ViaZlZLeTBA-00313-00071638-00071829 networking kind of the same thing and ViaZlZLeTBA-00314-00071830-00071943 that means when you say talk about ViaZlZLeTBA-00315-00071944-00072033 automation you're talking about ViaZlZLeTBA-00316-00072034-00072269 programmatically ViaZlZLeTBA-00317-00072270-00072717 invoking policy so the system just does ViaZlZLeTBA-00318-00072718-00072875 what I needed to do and I think ViaZlZLeTBA-00319-00072876-00073243 manually reconfigure because the big ViaZlZLeTBA-00320-00073244-00073777 vision here is distributed cloud but ViaZlZLeTBA-00321-00073778-00074093 managed with a single point of control ViaZlZLeTBA-00322-00074094-00074564 and and and when you think about these ViaZlZLeTBA-00323-00074565-00074810 workloads that are gonna require this ViaZlZLeTBA-00324-00074811-00074933 new type of infrastructure that you ViaZlZLeTBA-00325-00074934-00075113 nobody talks about AI and machine ViaZlZLeTBA-00326-00075114-00075419 learning deep learning it's requiring a ViaZlZLeTBA-00327-00075420-00075647 different type of infrastructure and ViaZlZLeTBA-00328-00075648-00075835 different different type of mindset ViaZlZLeTBA-00329-00075836-00076267 micro services are a big part of that ViaZlZLeTBA-00330-00076268-00076850 functional programming across location ViaZlZLeTBA-00331-00076851-00077126 so edge something in-between edge and ViaZlZLeTBA-00332-00077127-00077531 cloud call it you know middle tier right ViaZlZLeTBA-00333-00077532-00077806 and and the cloud tier so you've got ViaZlZLeTBA-00334-00077807-00078116 processing happening at the edge maybe ViaZlZLeTBA-00335-00078117-00078419 real-time maybe aggregating data in the ViaZlZLeTBA-00336-00078420-00078596 middle and then sending it back up to ViaZlZLeTBA-00337-00078597-00078740 the cloud and then doing maybe more ViaZlZLeTBA-00338-00078741-00079025 detailed modeling that management of ViaZlZLeTBA-00339-00079026-00079244 that distributed infrastructure cannot ViaZlZLeTBA-00340-00079245-00079592 take place without the API economy do ViaZlZLeTBA-00341-00079593-00079829 you agree and you know why and maybe ViaZlZLeTBA-00342-00079830-00080075 help us think through how that will ViaZlZLeTBA-00343-00080076-00080234 evolve so I totally agree I think I ViaZlZLeTBA-00344-00080235-00080525 think the cusp I think the the company ViaZlZLeTBA-00345-00080526-00080795 right or the business wants to be able ViaZlZLeTBA-00346-00080796-00080987 to ensure and I think you said it best ViaZlZLeTBA-00347-00080988-00081248 right I'm not gonna bring I'm not gonna ViaZlZLeTBA-00348-00081249-00081503 bring the data to you or am I gonna ViaZlZLeTBA-00349-00081504-00081635 bring the data to or you're gonna come ViaZlZLeTBA-00350-00081636-00081803 to the data right the data has to the ViaZlZLeTBA-00351-00081804-00081986 cloud model to the cloud model is the ViaZlZLeTBA-00352-00081987-00082136 data right so I need to be able to have ViaZlZLeTBA-00353-00082137-00082322 access in all those access points right ViaZlZLeTBA-00354-00082323-00082535 that's very important to me because each ViaZlZLeTBA-00355-00082536-00082676 one of those access points is going to ViaZlZLeTBA-00356-00082677-00082889 give me the access and the capability to ViaZlZLeTBA-00357-00082890-00083036 be able to tie in and talk to and touch ViaZlZLeTBA-00358-00083037-00083228 customers in a different way right or ViaZlZLeTBA-00359-00083229-00083459 consumers of the data right and and the ViaZlZLeTBA-00360-00083460-00083624 customer in this case could be and this ViaZlZLeTBA-00361-00083625-00083780 is where the automation piece comes in ViaZlZLeTBA-00362-00083781-00084098 it could be the developer right so the ViaZlZLeTBA-00363-00084099-00084568 developer right now today ViaZlZLeTBA-00364-00084569-00084829 is the person that that we're selling to ViaZlZLeTBA-00365-00084830-00084994 right we're not selling to the ViaZlZLeTBA-00366-00084995-00085121 traditional infrastructure people ViaZlZLeTBA-00367-00085122-00085291 although of course they have ViaZlZLeTBA-00368-00085292-00085468 accountability and responsibility for ViaZlZLeTBA-00369-00085469-00085622 making sure the infrastructure is secure ViaZlZLeTBA-00370-00085623-00085828 stable they've got enough storage ViaZlZLeTBA-00371-00085829-00086005 they've got enough horsepower to do to ViaZlZLeTBA-00372-00086006-00086230 run the business however the person who ViaZlZLeTBA-00373-00086231-00086443 needs to be able to access those those ViaZlZLeTBA-00374-00086444-00086617 capabilities or the data that actually ViaZlZLeTBA-00375-00086618-00086767 lives on the distance the developer ViaZlZLeTBA-00376-00086768-00087004 doesn't care anymore what disk it is ViaZlZLeTBA-00377-00087005-00087253 they just need access to the data right ViaZlZLeTBA-00378-00087254-00087418 so now I want to be able to come in ViaZlZLeTBA-00379-00087419-00087596 every morning and I want the latest and ViaZlZLeTBA-00380-00087597-00087772 greatest data set available to me so I ViaZlZLeTBA-00381-00087773-00088000 can go build against an infrastructure ViaZlZLeTBA-00382-00088001-00088253 that looks like reality right so that I ViaZlZLeTBA-00383-00088254-00088491 know as I'm building my my new ViaZlZLeTBA-00384-00088492-00088867 application for consumers that I'm ViaZlZLeTBA-00385-00088868-00089149 building it as as fast as I can as ViaZlZLeTBA-00386-00089150-00089380 robust as I can and as accurately as I ViaZlZLeTBA-00387-00089381-00089659 can right away and then I want to ViaZlZLeTBA-00388-00089660-00089923 distribute that again quickly so that as ViaZlZLeTBA-00389-00089924-00090115 many people who need to consume that ViaZlZLeTBA-00390-00090116-00090365 application have the ability to do so ViaZlZLeTBA-00391-00090366-00090572 when we talk about things like I had ViaZlZLeTBA-00392-00090573-00090760 asked you sort of talk about things like ViaZlZLeTBA-00393-00090761-00091123 containers and and and microservices I ViaZlZLeTBA-00394-00091124-00091402 worry sometimes you get you know maybe ViaZlZLeTBA-00395-00091403-00091648 easy to manage to dozens of containers ViaZlZLeTBA-00396-00091649-00091859 and even hundreds but start managing ViaZlZLeTBA-00397-00091860-00092116 hundreds of thousands and you know same ViaZlZLeTBA-00398-00092117-00092236 thing with micro services some of these ViaZlZLeTBA-00399-00092237-00092515 micro services aren't so micro they ViaZlZLeTBA-00400-00092516-00092854 should have the exponent macro services ViaZlZLeTBA-00401-00092855-00093211 should we we is there concern about this ViaZlZLeTBA-00402-00093212-00093565 API creep where I've got sort of this ViaZlZLeTBA-00403-00093566-00093805 API economy blossoming but I've got all ViaZlZLeTBA-00404-00093806-00094513 this now API complexity out there or do ViaZlZLeTBA-00405-00094514-00094663 you see the industry being able to ViaZlZLeTBA-00406-00094664-00094891 manage that is that as API sort of a way ViaZlZLeTBA-00407-00094892-00095011 to manage that will they be an ViaZlZLeTBA-00408-00095012-00095269 abstraction layer there how do you see ViaZlZLeTBA-00409-00095270-00095465 that all evolving should we worry about ViaZlZLeTBA-00410-00095466-00095701 API creep or should we even be embracing ViaZlZLeTBA-00411-00095702-00096115 API creep no I I think I think the ViaZlZLeTBA-00412-00096116-00096446 jury's still out right I think that you ViaZlZLeTBA-00413-00096447-00096637 hear a lot of the vendors talk about oh ViaZlZLeTBA-00414-00096638-00096787 yeah we support a recipe we have a ViaZlZLeTBA-00415-00096788-00097003 restful api within our set and we can ViaZlZLeTBA-00416-00097004-00097267 kind of write to anything is that really ViaZlZLeTBA-00417-00097268-00097432 true can it right to anything because ViaZlZLeTBA-00418-00097433-00097691 the more API is that you see ViaZlZLeTBA-00419-00097692-00097912 the more little tricks I mean we saw ViaZlZLeTBA-00420-00097913-00098173 this when when networking was gonna be ViaZlZLeTBA-00421-00098174-00098305 standardized right are we gonna ViaZlZLeTBA-00422-00098306-00098563 standardize on an API eventually so that ViaZlZLeTBA-00423-00098564-00098680 when you do say you write to anything ViaZlZLeTBA-00424-00098681-00098972 you can I mean hopefully hopefully you ViaZlZLeTBA-00425-00098973-00099256 can write but I'm I don't know yeah well ViaZlZLeTBA-00426-00099257-00099460 in in the concern there would be just ViaZlZLeTBA-00427-00099461-00099781 different quality and robustness in and ViaZlZLeTBA-00428-00099782-00100042 you get from you know one vendor which ViaZlZLeTBA-00429-00100043-00100351 might be you know rock-solid you know ViaZlZLeTBA-00430-00100352-00100534 another one maybe not so much and as a ViaZlZLeTBA-00431-00100535-00100801 weaker point in in in the link I mean ViaZlZLeTBA-00432-00100802-00101053 all better than scripting obviously and ViaZlZLeTBA-00433-00101054-00101315 in a path toward automation and it's not ViaZlZLeTBA-00434-00101316-00101506 just quality right its functionality ViaZlZLeTBA-00435-00101507-00101684 right so so you might be able to take ViaZlZLeTBA-00436-00101685-00101788 advantage of certain things but you ViaZlZLeTBA-00437-00101789-00101932 can't take advantage of others right of ViaZlZLeTBA-00438-00101933-00102136 course that becomes strategic selling ViaZlZLeTBA-00439-00102137-00102385 for for the vendor to say here here's ViaZlZLeTBA-00440-00102386-00102601 what I can offer right but at some point ViaZlZLeTBA-00441-00102602-00102865 again when you're talking to that 23 old ViaZlZLeTBA-00442-00102866-00103124 developer who just wants to sit down and ViaZlZLeTBA-00443-00103125-00103327 be successful at building their ViaZlZLeTBA-00444-00103328-00103574 application they don't necessarily care ViaZlZLeTBA-00445-00103575-00103759 or want to hear about that right just ViaZlZLeTBA-00446-00103760-00103867 like they don't care about what disk ViaZlZLeTBA-00447-00103868-00104083 gets on they need certain functions to ViaZlZLeTBA-00448-00104084-00104266 be able to work flow it there it's the ViaZlZLeTBA-00449-00104267-00104536 it's the iPhone world now right I want ViaZlZLeTBA-00450-00104538-00104656 to push a button I want it to work I ViaZlZLeTBA-00451-00104657-00104866 don't have the time of the cycles to go ViaZlZLeTBA-00452-00104867-00105050 triangle fix something so the clouds ViaZlZLeTBA-00453-00105051-00105211 Bend the cloud operating model from an ViaZlZLeTBA-00454-00105213-00105385 IT operations standpoint has been ViaZlZLeTBA-00455-00105386-00105583 profound one of the things we predicted ViaZlZLeTBA-00456-00105584-00105770 at wiki bond is that over the next 10 ViaZlZLeTBA-00457-00105771-00106019 years actually started probably two ViaZlZLeTBA-00458-00106020-00106274 years ago but from two years ago to sort ViaZlZLeTBA-00459-00106275-00106564 of eight years on now we predict 150 ViaZlZLeTBA-00460-00106565-00106801 billion dollars will come out of sort of ViaZlZLeTBA-00461-00106802-00107099 undifferentiated IT labor costs ViaZlZLeTBA-00462-00107100-00107361 provisioning servers and lungs and ViaZlZLeTBA-00463-00107363-00107602 managing all that infrastructure which ViaZlZLeTBA-00464-00107603-00107826 doesn't have any value to the business ViaZlZLeTBA-00465-00107827-00108241 disappears or gets shifted to other ViaZlZLeTBA-00466-00108242-00108640 activities so it gets replaced by vendor ViaZlZLeTBA-00467-00108641-00108971 R&D in the form of product that actually ViaZlZLeTBA-00468-00108972-00109279 is cloud like public cloud services and ViaZlZLeTBA-00469-00109280-00109646 the API economy shifting those resources ViaZlZLeTBA-00470-00109647-00109763 into you know ViaZlZLeTBA-00471-00109764-00109976 application development design thinking ViaZlZLeTBA-00472-00109977-00110246 you know other value at analytics ViaZlZLeTBA-00473-00110247-00110546 analytics sure you've all this AI buzzed ViaZlZLeTBA-00474-00110547-00110855 up the stack if you will that it's gonna ViaZlZLeTBA-00475-00110856-00111071 allow people to differentiate with their ViaZlZLeTBA-00476-00111072-00111167 digital business everybody talks about ViaZlZLeTBA-00477-00111168-00111455 digital business digital businesses are ViaZlZLeTBA-00478-00111456-00111647 those that differentiate with data and ViaZlZLeTBA-00479-00111648-00111764 that's where people want to spend their ViaZlZLeTBA-00480-00111765-00111896 money they don't want to spend their ViaZlZLeTBA-00481-00111897-00112274 money on that's why everybody complains ViaZlZLeTBA-00482-00112275-00112397 about how we spend all our money and ViaZlZLeTBA-00483-00112398-00112609 keeping the lights on big part of that ViaZlZLeTBA-00484-00112610-00112759 is infrastructure management correct ViaZlZLeTBA-00485-00112760-00113468 final thoughts okay why are some final ViaZlZLeTBA-00486-00113469-00113750 thoughts and then let me chat a little ViaZlZLeTBA-00487-00113751-00114101 bit and then you can chime in so I would ViaZlZLeTBA-00488-00114102-00114293 say we're entering you know the next ViaZlZLeTBA-00489-00114294-00114566 great phase of cloud I'm is a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00490-00114567-00114736 this is driven by cloud and somewhat by ViaZlZLeTBA-00491-00114738-00114848 open source the first thing he's gonna ViaZlZLeTBA-00492-00114849-00115007 kick the tires what is the second phase ViaZlZLeTBA-00493-00115008-00115388 was how the economy is killing me so I'm ViaZlZLeTBA-00494-00115389-00115916 gonna shift my my capex to OPEX actually ViaZlZLeTBA-00495-00115917-00116066 maybe the fourth phase third phase was ViaZlZLeTBA-00496-00116067-00116410 shadow IT I gotta go fast and I think ViaZlZLeTBA-00497-00116411-00116732 the fourth phase was WOW businesses and ViaZlZLeTBA-00498-00116733-00116965 CIO is realizing that we can't just let ViaZlZLeTBA-00499-00116966-00117409 shadow IT run away and run amok we need ViaZlZLeTBA-00500-00117410-00117644 to embrace the cloud model and bring the ViaZlZLeTBA-00501-00117645-00117881 cloud model to our data and as part of ViaZlZLeTBA-00502-00117882-00118295 that it's the API economy that we need ViaZlZLeTBA-00503-00118296-00118544 to embrace and foster and invest in and ViaZlZLeTBA-00504-00118545-00118798 shift the labour cost out of ViaZlZLeTBA-00505-00118799-00119093 undifferentiated lifting to the things ViaZlZLeTBA-00506-00119094-00119308 that add value and I think the API ViaZlZLeTBA-00507-00119309-00119543 economy is that vision because that yeah ViaZlZLeTBA-00508-00119544-00119930 so so I I would completely agree so in I ViaZlZLeTBA-00509-00119931-00120208 haven't been in a sale in a customer ViaZlZLeTBA-00510-00120209-00120449 call haven't been in a customer call yet ViaZlZLeTBA-00511-00120450-00120728 this year where for example DevOps ViaZlZLeTBA-00512-00120729-00121058 hasn't come up right and to me that ViaZlZLeTBA-00513-00121058-00121384 shows me that CIOs are thinking exactly ViaZlZLeTBA-00514-00121385-00121639 what you're describing right I need to ViaZlZLeTBA-00515-00121640-00121940 infiltrate some automation in here to ViaZlZLeTBA-00516-00121941-00122173 get rid of the ViaZlZLeTBA-00517-00122174-00123206 okay laughing I like you sure so I ViaZlZLeTBA-00518-00123207-00123344 haven't been in the sales meeting yet ViaZlZLeTBA-00519-00123345-00123539 this year where we haven't had a ViaZlZLeTBA-00520-00123540-00123728 conversation with the CIO or the ViaZlZLeTBA-00521-00123729-00123926 executives at the table where we weren't ViaZlZLeTBA-00522-00123927-00124157 talking about DevOps and to me DevOps ViaZlZLeTBA-00523-00124158-00124360 instantly rings the API economy why ViaZlZLeTBA-00524-00124361-00124547 because it injects a level of automation ViaZlZLeTBA-00525-00124548-00124832 that really is what the CIO or the ViaZlZLeTBA-00526-00124833-00125015 c-level is looking for right because it ViaZlZLeTBA-00527-00125016-00125357 does things like help you know take away ViaZlZLeTBA-00528-00125358-00125734 some of that expense around thing you ViaZlZLeTBA-00529-00125735-00126029 know heating cooling whatever expense ViaZlZLeTBA-00530-00126030-00126329 because you get to then offset into you ViaZlZLeTBA-00531-00126330-00126473 know push pushing data into the cloud ViaZlZLeTBA-00532-00126474-00126719 and leveraging the cloud in an X type ViaZlZLeTBA-00533-00126720-00127208 model more and and I think that the ViaZlZLeTBA-00534-00127208-00127367 executives have been hearing a lot of ViaZlZLeTBA-00535-00127368-00127601 that we have we have a cloud strategy ViaZlZLeTBA-00536-00127602-00128030 right and you get to the people on on ViaZlZLeTBA-00537-00128031-00128267 the development floor or or on in the IT ViaZlZLeTBA-00538-00128268-00128468 shop right and they say yeah well we ViaZlZLeTBA-00539-00128469-00128732 can't really do a lot of that and I ViaZlZLeTBA-00540-00128733-00128906 think I think the sea level is starting ViaZlZLeTBA-00541-00128907-00129233 to see a lot more if I can have the API ViaZlZLeTBA-00542-00129233-00129566 economy help me help them solve some of ViaZlZLeTBA-00543-00129567-00129827 their problems we can get to a cloud ViaZlZLeTBA-00544-00129828-00130067 model a lot faster and meet the business ViaZlZLeTBA-00545-00130068-00130250 requirements from a secure standpoint ViaZlZLeTBA-00546-00130251-00130609 from a from a you know data standpoint a ViaZlZLeTBA-00547-00130610-00130783 compliance standpoint that we need to be ViaZlZLeTBA-00548-00130784-00130883 able to hit and I think that's really ViaZlZLeTBA-00549-00130883-00131048 important well developers are driving ViaZlZLeTBA-00550-00131049-00131333 the bus hop on board Steve thanks for ViaZlZLeTBA-00551-00131334-00131450 the chat ViaZlZLeTBA-00552-00131451-00131588 thanks for your perspective you're ViaZlZLeTBA-00553-00131589-00131795 welcome anytime all right thanks for ViaZlZLeTBA-00554-00131796-00132017 watching everybody this is the cube ViaZlZLeTBA-00555-00132018-00132161 conversations with Dave allantĂ© and ViaZlZLeTBA-00556-00132162-00132470 Steve Kenaston we'll see you next time VjHrdTmFysu-00001-00008664-00008855 and welcome to this meeting of the VjHrdTmFysu-00002-00008856-00009883 coordinating committee of world council VjHrdTmFysu-00003-00009884-00011283 um VjHrdTmFysu-00004-00011284-00012455 um VjHrdTmFysu-00005-00012456-00014083 who have taken part VjHrdTmFysu-00006-00014084-00015694 um VjHrdTmFysu-00007-00015695-00017703 any decorations VjHrdTmFysu-00008-00017704-00017886 two personal declarations of interest VjHrdTmFysu-00009-00017887-00019663 one is in my page VjHrdTmFysu-00010-00019664-00019886 thanks very much um now then for those VjHrdTmFysu-00011-00019887-00019975 of you who are VjHrdTmFysu-00012-00019976-00020150 unfamiliar with working for the council VjHrdTmFysu-00013-00020151-00020279 um can i explain that one of the VjHrdTmFysu-00014-00020280-00020391 functions of this committee the VjHrdTmFysu-00015-00020392-00020527 coordinating committee VjHrdTmFysu-00016-00020528-00020735 um is to re-examine the decision that's VjHrdTmFysu-00017-00020736-00020863 been taken by the VjHrdTmFysu-00018-00020864-00021086 um council's executive when it's been VjHrdTmFysu-00019-00021087-00021271 formally challenged by VjHrdTmFysu-00020-00021272-00021486 a number of elected members and having VjHrdTmFysu-00021-00021487-00021599 done that make comments VjHrdTmFysu-00022-00021600-00021743 and recommendations on that so the VjHrdTmFysu-00023-00021744-00021943 process that is is VjHrdTmFysu-00024-00021944-00022222 being referred to is a call in and the VjHrdTmFysu-00025-00022223-00022455 decision that's been called in the scene VjHrdTmFysu-00026-00022456-00022622 which you will be looking at relates to VjHrdTmFysu-00027-00022623-00022783 a report that was taken to a special VjHrdTmFysu-00028-00022784-00022919 meeting of cabinet on the 4th of VjHrdTmFysu-00029-00022920-00022999 september VjHrdTmFysu-00030-00023000-00023239 on the future of the lindale school VjHrdTmFysu-00031-00023240-00023407 which contained a recommendation for VjHrdTmFysu-00032-00023408-00023519 closure VjHrdTmFysu-00033-00023520-00023711 and the signatures supported raised VjHrdTmFysu-00034-00023712-00023839 seven points of concern VjHrdTmFysu-00035-00023840-00024007 and in their aggressive recording and VjHrdTmFysu-00036-00024008-00024167 these form the basis of the hearing VjHrdTmFysu-00037-00024168-00024311 tonight VjHrdTmFysu-00038-00024312-00024447 by way of introduction i'm lauren VjHrdTmFysu-00039-00024448-00024607 mclaughlin and i'm chair of the VjHrdTmFysu-00040-00024608-00024822 coordinating committee and my role VjHrdTmFysu-00041-00024823-00025047 here tonight is to facilitate the VjHrdTmFysu-00042-00025048-00025230 gathering of evidence VjHrdTmFysu-00043-00025231-00025407 and to make sure that the procedure is VjHrdTmFysu-00044-00025408-00025535 followed correctly VjHrdTmFysu-00045-00025536-00025702 and this is carried out in an orderly VjHrdTmFysu-00046-00025704-00025887 and respectful way VjHrdTmFysu-00047-00025888-00026078 and with that in mind i do acknowledge VjHrdTmFysu-00048-00026079-00026287 that this is likely to be a tough night VjHrdTmFysu-00049-00026288-00026502 for a lot of people this is one of the VjHrdTmFysu-00050-00026504-00026655 most difficult decisions i think that VjHrdTmFysu-00051-00026656-00026831 the council had before it for quite some VjHrdTmFysu-00052-00026832-00027039 dark time and without doubt VjHrdTmFysu-00053-00027039-00027214 uh it will of course will charge and VjHrdTmFysu-00054-00027216-00027462 serve searching for everyone involved VjHrdTmFysu-00055-00027463-00027727 understandably feelings can run high on VjHrdTmFysu-00056-00027727-00027823 matters like this VjHrdTmFysu-00057-00027824-00027958 and i know that that can lead to VjHrdTmFysu-00058-00027960-00028167 tensions however VjHrdTmFysu-00059-00028168-00028414 while i recognize that i also recognize VjHrdTmFysu-00060-00028416-00028590 that the principle of blood scrutiny VjHrdTmFysu-00061-00028591-00028839 is that courtesy and respect are shown VjHrdTmFysu-00062-00028839-00028918 to everyone VjHrdTmFysu-00063-00028919-00029135 by everyone and so people are able to VjHrdTmFysu-00064-00029136-00029270 give their evidence without feeling VjHrdTmFysu-00065-00029272-00029390 intimidated VjHrdTmFysu-00066-00029391-00029558 and i will be doing my job as a chair VjHrdTmFysu-00067-00029560-00029774 properly tonight making sure that that VjHrdTmFysu-00068-00029775-00029870 happens VjHrdTmFysu-00069-00029872-00030062 and i'm not going to ask um if we go VjHrdTmFysu-00070-00030063-00030231 around the table here and ask VjHrdTmFysu-00072-00033684-00036518 councillors VjHrdTmFysu-00073-00036519-00036687 council paul hayes who's the lead VjHrdTmFysu-00074-00036688-00036911 secretary to the fallen to come forward VjHrdTmFysu-00075-00036912-00037071 and he'd have five minutes VjHrdTmFysu-00076-00037072-00037327 um to give the reasons for asking for VjHrdTmFysu-00077-00037328-00039007 his nether VjHrdTmFysu-00078-00039008-00039407 um sorry paul you will have five minutes VjHrdTmFysu-00079-00039408-00039487 some of you are getting VjHrdTmFysu-00080-00039488-00039846 to know this procedure you'll have five VjHrdTmFysu-00081-00039847-00039918 minutes to VjHrdTmFysu-00082-00039919-00040118 give us the reasons for the calling for VjHrdTmFysu-00083-00040119-00040246 asking for calling VjHrdTmFysu-00084-00040247-00040462 i'll give you if you keep your eye on me VjHrdTmFysu-00085-00040463-00040599 i'll give you the nod when you've got a VjHrdTmFysu-00086-00040600-00040718 minute left VjHrdTmFysu-00087-00040719-00040974 after that i asked councillor tony smith VjHrdTmFysu-00088-00040975-00041111 to come forward who's the cabinet VjHrdTmFysu-00089-00041112-00041351 member for children young people and he VjHrdTmFysu-00090-00041352-00041511 had the same five minutes to VjHrdTmFysu-00091-00041512-00041679 give the reasons for making the decision VjHrdTmFysu-00092-00041680-00041855 in the first instance VjHrdTmFysu-00093-00041856-00042158 and then if a video can be shown VjHrdTmFysu-00094-00042159-00042343 it will be shown at this point in the VjHrdTmFysu-00095-00042344-00042623 proceedings it's a short video i'm sure VjHrdTmFysu-00096-00042624-00042830 and we'll take it at that point and then VjHrdTmFysu-00097-00042831-00043023 um witnesses that council hayes has VjHrdTmFysu-00098-00043024-00043095 nominated VjHrdTmFysu-00099-00043096-00043318 will come forward and answer questions VjHrdTmFysu-00100-00043319-00043502 from members of the committee VjHrdTmFysu-00101-00043503-00043702 and then councillor tony smith's er VjHrdTmFysu-00102-00043703-00043839 witnesses will come forward and they'll VjHrdTmFysu-00103-00043840-00043983 answer questions as well VjHrdTmFysu-00104-00043984-00044190 after that paul will have prime minister VjHrdTmFysu-00105-00044191-00044335 so what as well tony VjHrdTmFysu-00106-00044336-00044527 and if the committee will have a period VjHrdTmFysu-00107-00044528-00044679 of time then to VjHrdTmFysu-00108-00044680-00044871 have comment themselves and hopefully VjHrdTmFysu-00109-00044872-00045015 reach your recommendation at the end of VjHrdTmFysu-00110-00045016-00045071 that VjHrdTmFysu-00111-00045072-00045287 so with that in mind paul can i ask you VjHrdTmFysu-00112-00045288-00045423 to start in five minutes VjHrdTmFysu-00113-00045424-00045743 now thank you VjHrdTmFysu-00114-00045744-00045999 very much for taking the time to VjHrdTmFysu-00115-00046000-00046167 reconsider the government's decision VjHrdTmFysu-00116-00046168-00046311 this evening the cabinet made the VjHrdTmFysu-00117-00046312-00046439 decision of course on VjHrdTmFysu-00118-00046440-00046630 the fourth of september in regards to VjHrdTmFysu-00119-00046631-00046799 the lincoln school VjHrdTmFysu-00120-00046800-00047007 and i think following from your comments VjHrdTmFysu-00121-00047008-00047158 share all members will be aware that VjHrdTmFysu-00122-00047159-00047295 this is an incredibly VjHrdTmFysu-00123-00047296-00047655 emotive issue with all potential school VjHrdTmFysu-00124-00047656-00047807 approaches but indeed VjHrdTmFysu-00125-00047808-00047974 emotions are of course heightened this VjHrdTmFysu-00126-00047975-00048215 evening given the status of lindale VjHrdTmFysu-00127-00048216-00048302 school VjHrdTmFysu-00128-00048303-00048535 it's not just any primary school it's a VjHrdTmFysu-00129-00048536-00048695 school which provides an extremely VjHrdTmFysu-00130-00048696-00048758 loving VjHrdTmFysu-00131-00048759-00048990 caring environment for children who have VjHrdTmFysu-00132-00048991-00049102 the most profound VjHrdTmFysu-00133-00049103-00049302 and multiple learning difficulties in VjHrdTmFysu-00134-00049303-00049423 l4f VjHrdTmFysu-00135-00049424-00049655 the acronym used i'm sure there'll be VjHrdTmFysu-00136-00049656-00049839 plenty of acronyms this evening VjHrdTmFysu-00137-00049840-00050246 is pmld indeed so acute and extensive VjHrdTmFysu-00138-00050247-00050430 of the needs of the 21 children VjHrdTmFysu-00139-00050431-00050630 currently happening there that eric VjHrdTmFysu-00140-00050631-00050695 craven VjHrdTmFysu-00141-00050696-00050990 a former expert commissioned by world VjHrdTmFysu-00142-00050991-00051055 council VjHrdTmFysu-00143-00051056-00051479 described them as being pmld plus VjHrdTmFysu-00144-00051479-00051623 during the course of the evening you VjHrdTmFysu-00145-00051624-00051958 will hear much about funding bans VjHrdTmFysu-00146-00051959-00052223 asd and as i said a plethora of other VjHrdTmFysu-00147-00052224-00052326 acronyms VjHrdTmFysu-00148-00052327-00052607 it's undoubtedly an extremely complex VjHrdTmFysu-00149-00052608-00052735 and difficult issue VjHrdTmFysu-00150-00052736-00052887 that i would ask you not to become VjHrdTmFysu-00151-00052888-00053071 blinded by the science VjHrdTmFysu-00152-00053072-00053238 please don't fall into the trap of VjHrdTmFysu-00153-00053239-00053503 allowing confusion and contradicting VjHrdTmFysu-00154-00053504-00053742 opinions to lead you into what can VjHrdTmFysu-00155-00053744-00053911 become the default position VjHrdTmFysu-00156-00053912-00054175 of oh well officers know best we have VjHrdTmFysu-00157-00054176-00054359 all their chair especially in this VjHrdTmFysu-00158-00054360-00054438 council VjHrdTmFysu-00159-00054439-00054630 to the great detriment of this council VjHrdTmFysu-00160-00054632-00054750 and indeed our correct VjHrdTmFysu-00161-00054751-00054975 that's adopting this position was a VjHrdTmFysu-00162-00054976-00055063 disservice VjHrdTmFysu-00163-00055064-00055399 to the people we represent so yes by all VjHrdTmFysu-00164-00055400-00055479 means do VjHrdTmFysu-00165-00055479-00055687 question the witnesses that i have the VjHrdTmFysu-00166-00055688-00055911 honor in calling this evening on issues VjHrdTmFysu-00167-00055912-00055982 such as VjHrdTmFysu-00168-00055983-00056191 financial viability and the sen VjHrdTmFysu-00169-00056191-00056319 improvement test VjHrdTmFysu-00170-00056320-00056503 because they they surely know that VjHrdTmFysu-00171-00056504-00056735 detail they are expert at it VjHrdTmFysu-00172-00056736-00056919 but also please look at the wider VjHrdTmFysu-00173-00056920-00057175 implications of what cabinet decided VjHrdTmFysu-00174-00057176-00057407 please have some foresight and dare to VjHrdTmFysu-00175-00057408-00057487 think VjHrdTmFysu-00176-00057488-00057735 about what the irreversible consequences VjHrdTmFysu-00177-00057736-00057935 of this decision will be VjHrdTmFysu-00178-00057936-00058142 should we as an authority really be seen VjHrdTmFysu-00179-00058144-00058279 as inflicting such an VjHrdTmFysu-00180-00058279-00058535 arduous process upon families who VjHrdTmFysu-00181-00058536-00058726 determinedly struggle VjHrdTmFysu-00182-00058727-00058982 each day with an unimaginable and ever VjHrdTmFysu-00183-00058983-00059207 present worry about their child's health VjHrdTmFysu-00184-00059208-00059438 whilst at the same time during the VjHrdTmFysu-00185-00059439-00059511 day-to-day VjHrdTmFysu-00186-00059512-00059711 tribulations we all suffer but which of VjHrdTmFysu-00187-00059712-00059871 course held into VjHrdTmFysu-00188-00059872-00060199 insignificance in comparison members the VjHrdTmFysu-00189-00060200-00060366 factors the parents of lindale the VjHrdTmFysu-00190-00060367-00060606 people behind me they don't expect any VjHrdTmFysu-00191-00060607-00060847 special treatment they don't expect to VjHrdTmFysu-00192-00060848-00061023 be cast above the rest VjHrdTmFysu-00193-00061024-00061199 all they are asking for is that their VjHrdTmFysu-00194-00061200-00061391 children are safe and happy VjHrdTmFysu-00195-00061391-00061582 in a loving learning environment which VjHrdTmFysu-00196-00061583-00061703 suits their needs VjHrdTmFysu-00197-00061704-00061871 and which improves the quality of their VjHrdTmFysu-00198-00061872-00062159 lives chair this basic right is afforded VjHrdTmFysu-00199-00062160-00062326 to them by the liverpool school VjHrdTmFysu-00200-00062327-00062487 and they will show you tonight that any VjHrdTmFysu-00201-00062488-00062711 other option is simply an inadequate VjHrdTmFysu-00202-00062712-00062806 imitation VjHrdTmFysu-00203-00062807-00063038 of the fantastic glendale family which VjHrdTmFysu-00204-00063039-00063350 they have painstakingly created VjHrdTmFysu-00205-00063351-00063566 chair it is my hope that members this VjHrdTmFysu-00206-00063567-00063663 evening reside VjHrdTmFysu-00207-00063664-00063815 from the entrenched position of any VjHrdTmFysu-00208-00063816-00064079 political group and instead we focus on VjHrdTmFysu-00209-00064079-00064199 commitment i know VjHrdTmFysu-00210-00064200-00064494 all members share a commitment to our VjHrdTmFysu-00211-00064495-00064599 commitment to preserve VjHrdTmFysu-00212-00064600-00064799 all that is good about this borough and VjHrdTmFysu-00213-00064800-00064966 it is surely this commitment that will VjHrdTmFysu-00214-00064967-00065071 lead the committee VjHrdTmFysu-00215-00065072-00065263 to urgent cabinets i think again at the VjHrdTmFysu-00216-00065264-00065950 end of its VjHrdTmFysu-00217-00065951-00066087 if he deliberations come forward you VjHrdTmFysu-00218-00066088-00066271 have five minutes also tony VjHrdTmFysu-00219-00066272-00066415 and again if you just keep your eye on VjHrdTmFysu-00220-00066416-00066582 me i'll give you a nod when you've got a VjHrdTmFysu-00221-00066583-00067647 minute left VjHrdTmFysu-00222-00067648-00067975 um VjHrdTmFysu-00223-00067976-00068247 on the 4th of september the decision was VjHrdTmFysu-00224-00068248-00068311 taken by VjHrdTmFysu-00225-00068312-00068559 cabinet to publish notices to close the VjHrdTmFysu-00226-00068560-00068726 lindell school VjHrdTmFysu-00227-00068727-00068943 this difficult decision was taken for a VjHrdTmFysu-00228-00068944-00069182 number of reasons VjHrdTmFysu-00229-00069183-00069431 cabinet give careful consideration to VjHrdTmFysu-00230-00069432-00069703 the representations made on the ford VjHrdTmFysu-00231-00069704-00069903 and get further consideration to the VjHrdTmFysu-00232-00069904-00070350 options contained in the cabinet VjHrdTmFysu-00233-00070351-00070623 in considering his position and a VjHrdTmFysu-00234-00070624-00070775 subsequent decision VjHrdTmFysu-00235-00070776-00071055 capita cabinet listened very carefully VjHrdTmFysu-00236-00071056-00071206 to the representations VjHrdTmFysu-00237-00071207-00071615 made by parents of the mcdale school the VjHrdTmFysu-00238-00071616-00071743 options it considered VjHrdTmFysu-00239-00071744-00071967 arose over months of discussion and VjHrdTmFysu-00240-00071968-00072047 debate VjHrdTmFysu-00241-00072048-00072287 about future provision and how it might VjHrdTmFysu-00242-00072288-00072423 support children VjHrdTmFysu-00243-00072424-00072655 with profound and multiple learning VjHrdTmFysu-00244-00072656-00072831 difficulties VjHrdTmFysu-00245-00072832-00073094 during the course of the consultation VjHrdTmFysu-00246-00073095-00073311 new options emerged VjHrdTmFysu-00247-00073312-00073662 which were contributed to an empty VjHrdTmFysu-00248-00073663-00073894 public consultation was carried out by VjHrdTmFysu-00249-00073895-00074079 officers of the council VjHrdTmFysu-00250-00074080-00074462 which included six public meetings VjHrdTmFysu-00251-00074463-00074679 these meetings at different times and VjHrdTmFysu-00252-00074680-00074791 venues VjHrdTmFysu-00253-00074792-00075015 are intended to provide maximum VjHrdTmFysu-00254-00075016-00075126 opportunity VjHrdTmFysu-00255-00075127-00075391 for the public and all the school VjHrdTmFysu-00256-00075392-00075479 communities VjHrdTmFysu-00257-00075480-00075823 to make representations comment and to VjHrdTmFysu-00258-00075824-00075999 raise concerns about your VjHrdTmFysu-00259-00076000-00076255 causes put forward and the options VjHrdTmFysu-00260-00076256-00076350 contained VjHrdTmFysu-00261-00076351-00076743 within the consultation document VjHrdTmFysu-00262-00076744-00077006 this wide consultation allowed members VjHrdTmFysu-00263-00077007-00077126 of the public VjHrdTmFysu-00264-00077127-00077455 professional bodies parents schools VjHrdTmFysu-00265-00077456-00077767 governors many others to respond to the VjHrdTmFysu-00266-00077768-00078182 council with their views VjHrdTmFysu-00267-00078183-00078526 the process was open and transparent VjHrdTmFysu-00268-00078527-00078782 the officers of the council questioned VjHrdTmFysu-00269-00078783-00079071 and challenged about their proposals VjHrdTmFysu-00270-00079072-00079367 officers of the council hanson met with VjHrdTmFysu-00271-00079368-00079438 people VjHrdTmFysu-00272-00079439-00079679 who wanted to discuss the proposal in VjHrdTmFysu-00273-00079680-00079815 more detail VjHrdTmFysu-00274-00079816-00080071 and officers responded to many letters VjHrdTmFysu-00275-00080072-00080247 not a representation VjHrdTmFysu-00276-00080248-00080567 throughout his period VjHrdTmFysu-00277-00080568-00080838 i believe every effort is made to VjHrdTmFysu-00278-00080839-00080903 consult VjHrdTmFysu-00279-00080904-00081262 as fully as possible some members of VjHrdTmFysu-00280-00081263-00081335 parliament VjHrdTmFysu-00281-00081336-00081606 also made our views known along with VjHrdTmFysu-00282-00081607-00081967 members of the council VjHrdTmFysu-00283-00081968-00082247 many members took the opportunity to VjHrdTmFysu-00284-00082248-00082294 visit VjHrdTmFysu-00285-00082295-00082559 the five primary secondary schools VjHrdTmFysu-00286-00082560-00082687 supporting children VjHrdTmFysu-00287-00082688-00082943 and young people with complex learning VjHrdTmFysu-00288-00082944-00083111 different difficulties VjHrdTmFysu-00289-00083112-00083423 including those children who profound VjHrdTmFysu-00290-00083424-00083823 multiple learning difficulties VjHrdTmFysu-00291-00083824-00084135 i want to also acknowledge the time VjHrdTmFysu-00292-00084136-00084359 and commitment of the parents of VjHrdTmFysu-00293-00084360-00084638 children attending the lindell school VjHrdTmFysu-00294-00084639-00084838 who are vigorously involved in the VjHrdTmFysu-00295-00084839-00084959 process VjHrdTmFysu-00296-00084960-00085238 and respect their determination to VjHrdTmFysu-00297-00085239-00085294 present VjHrdTmFysu-00298-00085295-00085503 such a strong advocacy for their VjHrdTmFysu-00299-00085504-00085799 children VjHrdTmFysu-00300-00085800-00086087 in considering all the practice i took VjHrdTmFysu-00301-00086088-00086191 into account VjHrdTmFysu-00302-00086192-00086526 that this council has a responsibility VjHrdTmFysu-00303-00086527-00086838 to manage the efficient use of resources VjHrdTmFysu-00304-00086839-00087206 and finances this will sometimes VjHrdTmFysu-00305-00087207-00087518 mean that difficult and unpopular VjHrdTmFysu-00306-00087519-00087615 decisions VjHrdTmFysu-00307-00087616-00088055 need to be taken the lindeal school VjHrdTmFysu-00308-00088056-00088311 is recognized as a good school for the VjHrdTmFysu-00309-00088312-00088575 pupils it supports VjHrdTmFysu-00310-00088576-00088879 however there have been concerns about VjHrdTmFysu-00311-00088880-00089118 all the numbers of pupils on law for a VjHrdTmFysu-00312-00089119-00089303 number of years VjHrdTmFysu-00313-00089304-00089623 and this along with the VjHrdTmFysu-00314-00089624-00090015 changes in further in further VjHrdTmFysu-00315-00090016-00090311 in future national funding arrangements VjHrdTmFysu-00316-00090312-00090535 has given cause of concern VjHrdTmFysu-00317-00090536-00090999 about the future viability of school VjHrdTmFysu-00318-00091000-00091262 it is my view that the council must now VjHrdTmFysu-00319-00091263-00091487 grasp the network on the question VjHrdTmFysu-00320-00091488-00091718 of the future of this school which has VjHrdTmFysu-00321-00091719-00092047 been endowed for so long VjHrdTmFysu-00322-00092048-00092311 we need to end the uncertainty for the VjHrdTmFysu-00323-00092312-00092391 parents VjHrdTmFysu-00324-00092392-00092671 and the future parents to staff parents VjHrdTmFysu-00325-00092672-00092743 staff VjHrdTmFysu-00326-00092744-00093047 and divided community it is my view VjHrdTmFysu-00327-00093048-00093294 that world's high quality primary and VjHrdTmFysu-00328-00093295-00093423 secondary schools VjHrdTmFysu-00329-00093424-00093726 have the capacity to provide for VjHrdTmFysu-00330-00093727-00095282 the current children of the lincoln VjHrdTmFysu-00331-00095283-00096182 um VjHrdTmFysu-00332-00096183-00096392 you VlewECFr9tk-00000-00000031-00000614 parts of a paragraph a paragraph a group VlewECFr9tk-00001-00000615-00001057 of sentences that develops one main idea VlewECFr9tk-00002-00001058-00001458 example I am a student and project idea VlewECFr9tk-00003-00001459-00001959 my name is Maria I am from Mexico I'm VlewECFr9tk-00004-00001960-00002442 studying English I want to be a nurse VlewECFr9tk-00005-00002443-00002672 project idea will help me learn English VlewECFr9tk-00006-00002673-00003220 to become a nurse there are three parts VlewECFr9tk-00007-00003221-00003631 of a paragraph the introduction body and VlewECFr9tk-00008-00003632-00004241 conclusion introduction the introduction VlewECFr9tk-00009-00004242-00004601 has your topic sentence this is your VlewECFr9tk-00010-00004602-00004969 main idea where you introduce your topic VlewECFr9tk-00011-00004970-00005422 for example I am a student and project VlewECFr9tk-00012-00005423-00006002 idea the next part of your paragraph is VlewECFr9tk-00013-00006003-00006308 the body this is where you explain your VlewECFr9tk-00014-00006309-00006623 topic you use supporting sentences and VlewECFr9tk-00015-00006623-00007063 you use supporting details for example VlewECFr9tk-00016-00007064-00007513 my name is Maria I am from Mexico I'm VlewECFr9tk-00017-00007514-00008106 studying English I want to be a nurse VlewECFr9tk-00018-00008108-00008576 the third part is the conclusion this is VlewECFr9tk-00019-00008577-00008885 your concluding sentence it's where you VlewECFr9tk-00020-00008886-00009167 restate your main idea and you finish VlewECFr9tk-00021-00009168-00009674 your paragraph for example project idea VlewECFr9tk-00022-00009675-00009941 will help me learn English to become a VlewECFr9tk-00023-00009942-00010535 nurse a paragraph I am a student and VlewECFr9tk-00024-00010536-00010988 project idea my name is Maria I am from VlewECFr9tk-00025-00010989-00011488 Mexico I'm studying English I want to be VlewECFr9tk-00026-00011489-00011863 a nurse project idea will help me learn VlewECFr9tk-00027-00011864-00012289 English to become a nurse things to VlewECFr9tk-00028-00012290-00012763 remember write a title in depth the VlewECFr9tk-00029-00012764-00013096 first sentence indented means to leave a VlewECFr9tk-00030-00013097-00013307 space VlewECFr9tk-00031-00013308-00013859 use capital letters and use periods the VlewECFr9tk-00032-00013860-00014090 end 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W5xx9fDvtmy-00001-00000272-00000445 Homeland Security and Governmental W5xx9fDvtmy-00002-00000446-00000663 Affairs as the chief Oversight Committee W5xx9fDvtmy-00003-00000664-00000922 of the United States Senate it has W5xx9fDvtmy-00004-00000923-00001138 jurisdiction over matters related to the W5xx9fDvtmy-00005-00001139-00001330 Department of Homeland Security and W5xx9fDvtmy-00006-00001331-00001564 other homeland security concerns as well W5xx9fDvtmy-00007-00001565-00001717 as the functioning of the government W5xx9fDvtmy-00008-00001718-00001927 itself including the National Archives W5xx9fDvtmy-00009-00001928-00002107 budget and accounting measures other W5xx9fDvtmy-00010-00002108-00002323 than appropriations the census the W5xx9fDvtmy-00011-00002324-00002533 Federal Civil Service the affairs of the W5xx9fDvtmy-00012-00002534-00002707 District of Columbia in the United W5xx9fDvtmy-00013-00002708-00002902 States Postal Service it was called the W5xx9fDvtmy-00014-00002903-00003055 United States Senate Committee on W5xx9fDvtmy-00015-00003056-00003261 governmental affairs before Homeland W5xx9fDvtmy-00016-00003263-00003397 Security was added to its W5xx9fDvtmy-00017-00003397-00003739 responsibilities in 2004 it serves as W5xx9fDvtmy-00018-00003740-00003922 the Senate's chief investigative and W5xx9fDvtmy-00019-00003922-00004135 Oversight Committee its chair is the W5xx9fDvtmy-00020-00004136-00004306 only Senate committee chair who can W5xx9fDvtmy-00021-00004307-00004997 issue subpoenas without a committee vote W5xx9fDvtmy-00022-00004998-00005510 topic history W5xx9fDvtmy-00023-00005511-00005711 while elements of the committee can be W5xx9fDvtmy-00024-00005712-00005924 traced back into the 19th century W5xx9fDvtmy-00025-00005925-00006101 it's modern origins began with the W5xx9fDvtmy-00026-00006102-00006215 creation of the Committee on W5xx9fDvtmy-00027-00006216-00006386 expenditures in the executive W5xx9fDvtmy-00028-00006387-00006743 departments on April 18 1921 the W5xx9fDvtmy-00029-00006744-00006895 Committee on expenditures in the W5xx9fDvtmy-00030-00006897-00007097 executive department was renamed the W5xx9fDvtmy-00031-00007098-00007283 Committee on government operations in W5xx9fDvtmy-00032-00007284-00007544 1952 which was reorganized as the W5xx9fDvtmy-00033-00007545-00007723 Committee on governmental affairs in W5xx9fDvtmy-00034-00007723-00008075 1978 after passage of the intelligence W5xx9fDvtmy-00035-00008076-00008390 reform and terrorism act of 2004 the W5xx9fDvtmy-00036-00008391-00008525 committee became the Committee on W5xx9fDvtmy-00037-00008526-00008687 Homeland Security and Governmental W5xx9fDvtmy-00038-00008688-00008939 Affairs and added Homeland Security to W5xx9fDvtmy-00039-00008940-00009212 its jurisdiction of the five current W5xx9fDvtmy-00040-00009213-00009398 subcommittees the permanent Subcommittee W5xx9fDvtmy-00041-00009399-00009608 on investigations as the oldest and most W5xx9fDvtmy-00042-00009609-00009803 storied having been created at the same W5xx9fDvtmy-00043-00009804-00009983 time as the Committee on government W5xx9fDvtmy-00044-00009984-00010187 operations in 1952 W5xx9fDvtmy-00045-00010188-00010403 the Subcommittee on the oversight of W5xx9fDvtmy-00046-00010404-00010577 government management the federal W5xx9fDvtmy-00047-00010578-00010774 workforce and the District of Columbia W5xx9fDvtmy-00048-00010775-00010963 was established after the creation of W5xx9fDvtmy-00049-00010964-00011155 the Committee on governmental affairs in W5xx9fDvtmy-00050-00011156-00011453 1978 the Subcommittee on federal W5xx9fDvtmy-00051-00011454-00011642 financial management government W5xx9fDvtmy-00052-00011643-00011840 information federal services and W5xx9fDvtmy-00053-00011841-00012050 international security was created in W5xx9fDvtmy-00054-00012051-00012419 2003 two ad-hoc subcommittees were W5xx9fDvtmy-00055-00012420-00012707 established in January 2007 to reflect W5xx9fDvtmy-00056-00012708-00012866 the committee's expanded homeland W5xx9fDvtmy-00057-00012866-00013112 security jurisdiction they were the W5xx9fDvtmy-00058-00013113-00013307 Subcommittee on disaster recovery and W5xx9fDvtmy-00059-00013308-00013505 the Subcommittee on state local and W5xx9fDvtmy-00060-00013506-00013675 private sector preparedness and W5xx9fDvtmy-00061-00013676-00013886 integration the Subcommittee on W5xx9fDvtmy-00062-00013887-00014261 contracting was added in 2009 in 2011 W5xx9fDvtmy-00063-00014262-00014456 the disaster and state local and private W5xx9fDvtmy-00064-00014457-00014669 sector subcommittees were merged to form W5xx9fDvtmy-00065-00014669-00014846 the Subcommittee on disaster recovery W5xx9fDvtmy-00066-00014847-00015169 and intergovernmental affairs over the W5xx9fDvtmy-00067-00015170-00015341 years the Committee on Homeland Security W5xx9fDvtmy-00068-00015341-00015557 and Governmental Affairs and its W5xx9fDvtmy-00069-00015558-00015737 predecessors have dealt with a number of W5xx9fDvtmy-00070-00015738-00015950 important issues including government W5xx9fDvtmy-00071-00015951-00016119 accountability congressional ethics W5xx9fDvtmy-00072-00016120-00016363 regulatory affairs and systems and W5xx9fDvtmy-00073-00016365-00016727 information security in 2003 after the W5xx9fDvtmy-00074-00016728-00016958 Homeland Security Act of 2002 W5xx9fDvtmy-00075-00016959-00017153 established the Department of Homeland W5xx9fDvtmy-00076-00017154-00017381 Security the committee adopted primary W5xx9fDvtmy-00077-00017382-00017603 oversight of the creation and subsequent W5xx9fDvtmy-00078-00017604-00017828 policies operations and actions of the W5xx9fDvtmy-00079-00017829-00018116 department in the past decade the W5xx9fDvtmy-00080-00018117-00018302 committee has focused particularly on W5xx9fDvtmy-00081-00018303-00018508 the Department of Homeland Security's W5xx9fDvtmy-00082-00018509-00018662 ability to respond to a major W5xx9fDvtmy-00083-00018663-00018887 catastrophe such as hurricane could W5xx9fDvtmy-00084-00018888-00019064 Treena the rise of homegrown terrorism W5xx9fDvtmy-00085-00019065-00019229 in the United States and the W5xx9fDvtmy-00086-00019230-00019406 vulnerabilities of the nation's most W5xx9fDvtmy-00087-00019407-00019610 critical networks those operating W5xx9fDvtmy-00088-00019611-00019799 systems upon which our national defense W5xx9fDvtmy-00089-00019800-00020087 economy and way of life depend such as W5xx9fDvtmy-00090-00020088-00020249 the power grid water treatment W5xx9fDvtmy-00091-00020250-00020489 facilities transportation and financial W5xx9fDvtmy-00092-00020490-00020735 networks nuclear reactors and dams in W5xx9fDvtmy-00093-00020736-00021035 February 2014 Republican staffers of the W5xx9fDvtmy-00094-00021036-00021206 committee leaked the passwords used to W5xx9fDvtmy-00095-00021207-00021861 secure DHS systems W5xx9fDvtmy-00096-00021862-00022378 topic members 115th Congress W5xx9fDvtmy-00097-00022379-00022573 you W5xx9fDvtmy-00098-00022574-00023071 source W5xx9fDvtmy-00099-00023072-00023594 Topic subcommittees W5xx9fDvtmy-00100-00023595-00023962 you W5xx9fDvtmy-00101-00023963-00024455 topic chairman W5xx9fDvtmy-00102-00024456-00024807 you W5xx9fDvtmy-00103-00024808-00025092 topic committee on expenditures in W5xx9fDvtmy-00104-00025093-00025877 executive departments 1921 to 1952 W5xx9fDvtmy-00105-00025879-00026363 module mcCormick are ill 1921 to 1925 W5xx9fDvtmy-00106-00026364-00026976 David a read ARPA 1925 to 1927 Frederick W5xx9fDvtmy-00107-00026977-00027450 M Sackett our Kentucky 1927 to 1930 W5xx9fDvtmy-00108-00027451-00028032 guy D Goff rwv a 1930 1931 Frederick's W5xx9fDvtmy-00109-00028033-00028533 ty were are or 1931 to 1933 Jay Hamilton W5xx9fDvtmy-00110-00028533-00028952 Lewis D ill 1933 to 1939 W5xx9fDvtmy-00111-00028952-00029452 Frederick Van Nuys d ein 1939 to 1940 to W5xx9fDvtmy-00112-00029454-00030087 J Lister Hill Diala 1942 to 1947 George W5xx9fDvtmy-00113-00030088-00030533 D Aiken our Vermont 1947 to 1949 W5xx9fDvtmy-00114-00030533-00031487 John L McClellan d arc 1949 to 1950 to W5xx9fDvtmy-00115-00031488-00031849 topic committee on government operations W5xx9fDvtmy-00116-00031850-00032458 1952 to 1977 W5xx9fDvtmy-00117-00032460-00032968 Jarnell McClellan D arc 1952-1953 W5xx9fDvtmy-00118-00032969-00033511 Joseph R McCarthy r-wis 1953 to 1955 W5xx9fDvtmy-00119-00033512-00034075 John L McClellan D arc 1955 to 1972 W5xx9fDvtmy-00120-00034076-00034693 Samuel J Ervin jr. DNC 1972 to 1974 W5xx9fDvtmy-00121-00034694-00035657 Abraham Ribicoff deaqon 1974 to 1977 W5xx9fDvtmy-00122-00035658-00036031 topic Committee on governmental affairs W5xx9fDvtmy-00123-00036032-00036602 1977 to 2005 W5xx9fDvtmy-00124-00036603-00037159 Abraham Ribicoff deaqon 1977 to 1981 W5xx9fDvtmy-00125-00037160-00037702 William v Roth jr. Ardell 1981 to 1987 W5xx9fDvtmy-00126-00037703-00038014 John H Glenn jr. do hyoh W5xx9fDvtmy-00127-00038015-00038587 1987 to 1995 William v Roth jr. Ardell W5xx9fDvtmy-00128-00038588-00039104 1995 Theodore F Stephens our Alaska 1995 W5xx9fDvtmy-00129-00039105-00039274 to 1997 W5xx9fDvtmy-00130-00039275-00039793 Fred D Thompson our 10 1997 to 2001 W5xx9fDvtmy-00131-00039794-00040177 Joseph the first lieberman deaqon 2001 W5xx9fDvtmy-00132-00040178-00040673 Fred D Thompson our 10 2001 Joseph the W5xx9fDvtmy-00133-00040674-00041065 first lieberman deaqon 2001 to 2003 W5xx9fDvtmy-00134-00041066-00041972 Susan M Collins our main 2003 to 2005 W5xx9fDvtmy-00135-00041973-00042287 topic committee on Homeland Security and W5xx9fDvtmy-00136-00042288-00042923 Governmental Affairs 2005 present W5xx9fDvtmy-00137-00042924-00043418 Susan M Collins our main 2005 to 2007 W5xx9fDvtmy-00138-00043419-00043778 Joseph the first Lieberman I Connecticut W5xx9fDvtmy-00139-00043779-00044322 2007 to 2013 Tom Carper de Delaware 2013 W5xx9fDvtmy-00140-00044323-00044453 to 2015 W5xx9fDvtmy-00141-00044454-00045251 Ron Johnson our Wisconsin 2015 present W5xx9fDvtmy-00142-00045252-00045787 topic C also W5xx9fDvtmy-00143-00045788-00046021 list of current United States Senate W5xx9fDvtmy-00144-00046022-00046265 committees W8Ncs8aDR40-00000-00000024-00000323 hey everyone it's Yuri safrano and today W8Ncs8aDR40-00001-00000324-00000593 we'll be talking about ftmo payouts W8Ncs8aDR40-00002-00000594-00000886 methods and how to withdraw your ftml W8Ncs8aDR40-00003-00000888-00001555 profits W8Ncs8aDR40-00004-00001556-00001864 many Traders use app TMO to take W8Ncs8aDR40-00005-00001866-00002147 advantage of their generous profit split W8Ncs8aDR40-00006-00002148-00002495 80 to 20 or 90 to 10 with the scaling W8Ncs8aDR40-00007-00002496-00002776 plan but once you've earned a profit you W8Ncs8aDR40-00008-00002777-00002981 might wonder how do I actually get that W8Ncs8aDR40-00009-00002982-00003065 money W8Ncs8aDR40-00010-00003066-00003317 luckily the process is relatively W8Ncs8aDR40-00011-00003318-00003556 straightforward and can be accomplished W8Ncs8aDR40-00012-00003557-00003719 via bank wire W8Ncs8aDR40-00013-00003720-00004031 Skrill or cryptocurrencies W8Ncs8aDR40-00014-00004032-00004288 but before we get into the steps W8Ncs8aDR40-00015-00004289-00004595 themselves let's quickly go over to W8Ncs8aDR40-00016-00004596-00004925 profit split on ftmo accounts so that W8Ncs8aDR40-00017-00004926-00005165 everyone knows exactly what to expect W8Ncs8aDR40-00018-00005166-00005518 when withdrawing their profits W8Ncs8aDR40-00019-00005519-00005891 by default ftemo will take 80 percent or W8Ncs8aDR40-00020-00005892-00006136 90 percent if you qualify for the scale W8Ncs8aDR40-00021-00006137-00006400 implant of whatever amount of profit you W8Ncs8aDR40-00022-00006401-00006695 generate with ftmo funded account as W8Ncs8aDR40-00023-00006695-00007042 their share and pay you out accordingly W8Ncs8aDR40-00024-00007043-00007246 so if you are looking to keep your W8Ncs8aDR40-00025-00007247-00007451 profit split on account to grow your W8Ncs8aDR40-00026-00007452-00007684 balance and draw down buffer just W8Ncs8aDR40-00027-00007686-00007984 remember that ftml will always withdraw W8Ncs8aDR40-00028-00007986-00008224 their share of the profit split when you W8Ncs8aDR40-00029-00008225-00008333 cash out W8Ncs8aDR40-00030-00008334-00008645 now that we have cleared that up let's W8Ncs8aDR40-00031-00008646-00008987 get into those Steps step one confirm W8Ncs8aDR40-00032-00008988-00009287 your invoice log into your ftml account W8Ncs8aDR40-00033-00009288-00009592 and navigate to the billing tab here W8Ncs8aDR40-00034-00009593-00009809 you'll see all outstanding invoices W8Ncs8aDR40-00035-00009810-00010042 which you must select and confirm before W8Ncs8aDR40-00036-00010043-00010283 moving on to step 2. W8Ncs8aDR40-00037-00010284-00010577 Step 2 request a withdrawal after W8Ncs8aDR40-00038-00010578-00010823 confirming your invoice simply navigate W8Ncs8aDR40-00039-00010824-00011069 to the withdrawal Tab and choose the W8Ncs8aDR40-00040-00011070-00011291 method you wish to use either a bank W8Ncs8aDR40-00041-00011292-00011614 wire transfer squeal or cryptocurrencies W8Ncs8aDR40-00042-00011615-00011878 then enter an amount you want to W8Ncs8aDR40-00043-00011879-00012119 withdraw and click request withdrawal W8Ncs8aDR40-00044-00012120-00012341 easy as pie W8Ncs8aDR40-00045-00012342-00012701 step 3. wait for processing your payout W8Ncs8aDR40-00046-00012702-00012929 should be processed within one or two W8Ncs8aDR40-00047-00012930-00013066 business days W8Ncs8aDR40-00048-00013067-00013277 after which you'll receive an email W8Ncs8aDR40-00049-00013278-00013588 notification and voila you can now W8Ncs8aDR40-00050-00013590-00013841 access your earnings from the trading on W8Ncs8aDR40-00051-00013841-00013972 ftmo W8Ncs8aDR40-00052-00013973-00014255 we hope this video helped show how easy W8Ncs8aDR40-00053-00014256-00014566 it is to withdraw profits from an ftmo W8Ncs8aDR40-00054-00014568-00014872 funded account if not feel free to W8Ncs8aDR40-00055-00014873-00015113 comment on this video for any further W8Ncs8aDR40-00056-00015113-00015371 questions or assistance thanks for W8Ncs8aDR40-00057-00015372-00015707 watching and until next time and also W8Ncs8aDR40-00058-00015708-00015866 happy Trading W8Ncs8aDR40-00059-00015866-00016300 [Music] W9xNyJwybMc-00000-00001492-00002910 oh W9xNyJwybMc-00001-00002911-00003063 in your solar system you hanging with W9xNyJwybMc-00002-00003064-00003295 some stars they're calling her jobs the W9xNyJwybMc-00003-00003296-00003447 stash work package W9xNyJwybMc-00004-00003447-00003663 i mix tequila with the yak i'm so W9xNyJwybMc-00005-00003664-00003767 abstract W9xNyJwybMc-00006-00003768-00004079 oh [__] i just had a 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notes WrU2dVh-LnE-00005-00000919-00001303 that the honourable dyson hayden acqc WrU2dVh-LnE-00006-00001304-00001614 has agreed to speak at a liberal party WrU2dVh-LnE-00007-00001616-00001998 fundraiser on wednesday 26th of august WrU2dVh-LnE-00008-00002000-00002399 2015 at castle ray boutique hotel in WrU2dVh-LnE-00009-00002400-00002502 sydney WrU2dVh-LnE-00010-00002503-00002758 b the invitation to the liberal party WrU2dVh-LnE-00011-00002759-00003126 fundraiser states that and i quote WrU2dVh-LnE-00012-00003127-00003375 checks should be made payable to the WrU2dVh-LnE-00013-00003376-00003606 liberal party of australia new south WrU2dVh-LnE-00014-00003607-00003799 wales division WrU2dVh-LnE-00015-00003800-00003886 and WrU2dVh-LnE-00016-00003887-00003975 see WrU2dVh-LnE-00017-00003976-00004231 the invitation also states WrU2dVh-LnE-00018-00004232-00004479 all proceeds from this event will be WrU2dVh-LnE-00019-00004480-00004911 applied to state election campaigning WrU2dVh-LnE-00020-00004912-00005270 and accordingly this house declares that WrU2dVh-LnE-00021-00005271-00005647 by his own actions the honourable dyson WrU2dVh-LnE-00022-00005648-00006047 hayden acqc has disqualified himself WrU2dVh-LnE-00023-00006048-00006231 from conducting the prime minister's WrU2dVh-LnE-00024-00006232-00006525 royal commission into trade unions WrU2dVh-LnE-00025-00006526-00007103 [Music] WrU2dVh-LnE-00026-00007104-00007319 the manager of government business WrU2dVh-LnE-00027-00007320-00007534 thank you mr deputy speaker given that WrU2dVh-LnE-00028-00007536-00007759 we are debating the 100th anniversary of WrU2dVh-LnE-00029-00007759-00008006 the landings at gallipoli in this WrU2dVh-LnE-00030-00008008-00008303 chamber there are appropriate times to WrU2dVh-LnE-00031-00008304-00008551 move such emotional seek leave WrU2dVh-LnE-00032-00008552-00008791 at 20 past 11 on thursday is not the WrU2dVh-LnE-00033-00008792-00009087 appropriate time WrU2dVh-LnE-00034-00009088-00009303 you can withdraw that WrU2dVh-LnE-00035-00009304-00009455 you'll be able to WrU2dVh-LnE-00036-00009456-00009703 the manager for opposition business uh WrU2dVh-LnE-00037-00009704-00009871 go to the government side and ask the WrU2dVh-LnE-00038-00009872-00010014 member for ranking to withdraw that WrU2dVh-LnE-00039-00010015-00010199 comment oh true thank the member for WrU2dVh-LnE-00040-00010200-00010510 ranking thank you mr deputy speaker i am WrU2dVh-LnE-00041-00010511-00010695 i'm making the point that there are WrU2dVh-LnE-00042-00010696-00010855 appropriate times to move such a WrU2dVh-LnE-00043-00010856-00011087 resolution and to seek leave to move WrU2dVh-LnE-00044-00011088-00011342 such a resolution now is not the time to WrU2dVh-LnE-00045-00011343-00011567 do it in a debate about the 100th WrU2dVh-LnE-00046-00011568-00011814 anniversary of the landing gallipoli and WrU2dVh-LnE-00047-00011815-00011999 therefore leave is not granted and i WrU2dVh-LnE-00048-00012000-00012167 would recommend to the managed WrU2dVh-LnE-00049-00012168-00012374 opposition business that he perhaps come WrU2dVh-LnE-00050-00012375-00012542 back later in the day WrU2dVh-LnE-00051-00012543-00012830 and move a motion if he wishes to do so WrU2dVh-LnE-00052-00012831-00013015 but lee will not be grounded at this WrU2dVh-LnE-00053-00013016-00013830 point in time WrU2dVh-LnE-00054-00013831-00013935 the WrU2dVh-LnE-00055-00013936-00014158 leave is not granted the WrU2dVh-LnE-00056-00014159-00014455 understanding order 47 WrU2dVh-LnE-00057-00014456-00014679 you can't seek leave to move a WrU2dVh-LnE-00058-00014680-00014919 suspension of standing orders WrU2dVh-LnE-00059-00014919-00015150 when there is business before the house WrU2dVh-LnE-00060-00015151-00015358 it must be relevant to any business WrU2dVh-LnE-00061-00015359-00015543 under discussion WrU2dVh-LnE-00062-00015544-00015686 to the house so then leave is not WrU2dVh-LnE-00063-00015687-00015919 granted WrU2dVh-LnE-00064-00015919-00015999 so WrU2dVh-LnE-00065-00016000-00016071 we WrU2dVh-LnE-00066-00016072-00016207 give the call to the manager of WrU2dVh-LnE-00067-00016208-00016366 opposition thank you WrU2dVh-LnE-00068-00016368-00016486 i move WrU2dVh-LnE-00069-00016487-00016663 that standing order WrU2dVh-LnE-00070-00016664-00016911 47 c1 WrU2dVh-LnE-00071-00016912-00017127 and other so and so much of other WrU2dVh-LnE-00072-00017128-00017271 standing and sessional orders be WrU2dVh-LnE-00073-00017272-00017535 suspended as would prevent the manager WrU2dVh-LnE-00074-00017536-00017719 of opposition business from moving the WrU2dVh-LnE-00075-00017720-00017935 following motion forth with WrU2dVh-LnE-00076-00017936-00018191 one the house notes that the honorable WrU2dVh-LnE-00077-00018192-00018535 dyson hayden acqc has agreed to speak at WrU2dVh-LnE-00078-00018536-00018758 a liberal party fundraiser on wednesday WrU2dVh-LnE-00079-00018759-00019071 wednesday 26th of august 2015 at the WrU2dVh-LnE-00080-00019072-00019486 castle ray boutique hotel in sydney WrU2dVh-LnE-00081-00019487-00019807 the invitation to the liberal party WrU2dVh-LnE-00082-00019808-00020143 fundraiser states that checks should be WrU2dVh-LnE-00083-00020144-00020375 made payable to liberal party of WrU2dVh-LnE-00084-00020376-00020655 australia new south wales division the WrU2dVh-LnE-00085-00020656-00020999 invitation also states all proceeds from WrU2dVh-LnE-00086-00021000-00021303 this event will be applied to state WrU2dVh-LnE-00087-00021304-00021583 election campaigning WrU2dVh-LnE-00088-00021584-00021927 two accordingly the house declares by WrU2dVh-LnE-00089-00021928-00022222 his own actions dyson hayden has WrU2dVh-LnE-00090-00022223-00022486 disqualified himself from conducting the WrU2dVh-LnE-00091-00022487-00022727 prime minister's royal commission into WrU2dVh-LnE-00092-00022728-00023055 trade unions he is conflicted he is WrU2dVh-LnE-00093-00023056-00023439 biased the royal commission is a farce WrU2dVh-LnE-00094-00023440-00023775 dyson hayden is in a position now where WrU2dVh-LnE-00095-00023776-00024022 he cannot remain in that role and the WrU2dVh-LnE-00096-00024023-00024255 sham that we have said for so long this WrU2dVh-LnE-00097-00024256-00024527 royal commission was has now been found WrU2dVh-LnE-00098-00024528-00024727 out and exposed WrU2dVh-LnE-00099-00024728-00024911 to have somebody who the prime minister WrU2dVh-LnE-00100-00024912-00025247 held up as allegedly being impartial now WrU2dVh-LnE-00101-00025248-00025439 to have a situation where he is WrU2dVh-LnE-00102-00025440-00025646 promoting the liberal party WrU2dVh-LnE-00103-00025647-00025911 being the guest the draw card for a WrU2dVh-LnE-00104-00025912-00026239 liberal party fundraiser is an absolute WrU2dVh-LnE-00105-00026239-00026487 disgrace for those of us that are afraid WrU2dVh-LnE-00106-00026488-00027151 of this debate those are better WrU2dVh-LnE-00107-00027152-00027302 and the australian people will WrU2dVh-LnE-00108-00027304-00027574 understand exactly what's going on with WrU2dVh-LnE-00109-00027575-00027951 a royal commission wreaked in biased WrU2dVh-LnE-00110-00027952-00028479 advice WrU2dVh-LnE-00111-00028480-00028695 the procedural motion is being moved the WrU2dVh-LnE-00112-00028695-00028902 speaker moving it should be given the WrU2dVh-LnE-00113-00028904-00029055 call i don't know but i know that you've WrU2dVh-LnE-00114-00029056-00029318 now given me the call and i moved no WrU2dVh-LnE-00115-00029319-00029956 longer heard WrU2dVh-LnE-00116-00029957-00030358 [Music] WrU2dVh-LnE-00117-00030360-00030502 the question is that the member no WrU2dVh-LnE-00118-00030503-00030670 longer be heard and i'll disregard that WrU2dVh-LnE-00119-00030672-00030895 last remark WrU2dVh-LnE-00120-00030895-00031180 and you should be very careful WrU2dVh-LnE-00121-00031181-00031423 [Music] WrU2dVh-LnE-00122-00031424-00031583 and i don't need any comments from you WrU2dVh-LnE-00123-00031583-00031751 either because you would know that i am WrU2dVh-LnE-00124-00031752-00031958 in the chair i have the ruling i have WrU2dVh-LnE-00125-00031960-00032199 not given moved over for the speaker who WrU2dVh-LnE-00126-00032200-00032343 is now here WrU2dVh-LnE-00127-00032344-00032479 but the question is that the member no WrU2dVh-LnE-00128-00032480-00032767 longer be heard all those other opinions WrU2dVh-LnE-00129-00032768-00033079 no no no to the contrary no no WrU2dVh-LnE-00130-00033080-00033295 think the eyes haven't no no's have it WrU2dVh-LnE-00131-00033296-00034887 division required WrU2dVh-LnE-00132-00034888-00035359 who would have thought WrU2dVh-LnE-00133-00035360-00036367 is WrU2dVh-LnE-00134-00036368-00036655 [Music] WrU2dVh-LnE-00135-00036656-00036751 thank you WrU2dVh-LnE-00136-00036752-00036974 uh on advice of the clerks the clerks WrU2dVh-LnE-00137-00036975-00037151 have indicated that WrU2dVh-LnE-00138-00037152-00037462 correctly that suspension of uh WrU2dVh-LnE-00139-00037463-00037679 standing orders cannot be done at this WrU2dVh-LnE-00140-00037680-00038015 stage under this this way and therefore WrU2dVh-LnE-00141-00038016-00038087 uh WrU2dVh-LnE-00142-00038088-00038351 we've got to rule it out of order WrU2dVh-LnE-00143-00038352-00038830 and return to the business WrU2dVh-LnE-00144-00038831-00039030 the member for greenland WrU2dVh-LnE-00145-00039031-00039623 point of order mr speaker WrU2dVh-LnE-00146-00039624-00039879 point of order the motion moved by the WrU2dVh-LnE-00147-00039880-00040127 manager of opposition business WrU2dVh-LnE-00148-00040128-00040446 seeks to suspend the standing order that WrU2dVh-LnE-00149-00040447-00040735 is relevant to that ruling WrU2dVh-LnE-00150-00040736-00041007 it is perfectly within order WrU2dVh-LnE-00151-00041008-00041246 for the manager of opposition business WrU2dVh-LnE-00152-00041247-00041446 to put before WrU2dVh-LnE-00153-00041447-00041735 the house the motion that he has WrU2dVh-LnE-00154-00041736-00041927 what is before the chair is in the WrU2dVh-LnE-00155-00041928-00042079 leader of the house WrU2dVh-LnE-00156-00042080-00042351 is moved that the manager of opposition WrU2dVh-LnE-00157-00042352-00042639 business be no longer heard WrU2dVh-LnE-00158-00042640-00042879 you actually put that WrU2dVh-LnE-00159-00042880-00042967 to WrU2dVh-LnE-00160-00042968-00043055 the WrU2dVh-LnE-00161-00043056-00043287 house and had a vote on it and i believe WrU2dVh-LnE-00162-00043288-00043455 we're about to call WrU2dVh-LnE-00163-00043456-00043862 for a division on that and that is what WrU2dVh-LnE-00164-00043863-00044183 should occur before the house right now WrU2dVh-LnE-00165-00044184-00044390 because otherwise WrU2dVh-LnE-00166-00044391-00044518 otherwise WrU2dVh-LnE-00167-00044519-00044679 it is WrU2dVh-LnE-00168-00044680-00044918 subverting the will of the house it is WrU2dVh-LnE-00169-00044919-00045215 perfectly in order at any time for the WrU2dVh-LnE-00170-00045216-00045423 house to control its own destiny which WrU2dVh-LnE-00171-00045424-00045590 is why we have moved WrU2dVh-LnE-00172-00045591-00045758 through the manager of opposition WrU2dVh-LnE-00173-00045759-00045967 business the suspension of standing WrU2dVh-LnE-00174-00045968-00046207 orders including that suspension of WrU2dVh-LnE-00175-00046208-00046446 standing order 47c WrU2dVh-LnE-00176-00046447-00046686 are you here i thank the member for WrU2dVh-LnE-00177-00046687-00046855 greenland but i think that i will stick WrU2dVh-LnE-00178-00046856-00047055 with the ruling that WrU2dVh-LnE-00179-00047056-00047255 you can't suspend standing orders at WrU2dVh-LnE-00180-00047256-00047486 this time in the middle of business WrU2dVh-LnE-00181-00047487-00047871 before the house WrU2dVh-LnE-00182-00047872-00048143 so we'll return to the business WrU2dVh-LnE-00183-00048144-00048295 before the chair WrU2dVh-LnE-00184-00048296-00048695 which is the motion be agreed to WrU2dVh-LnE-00185-00048696-00048879 the member for grayling another street WrU2dVh-LnE-00186-00048880-00049158 but perhaps it would be in order given WrU2dVh-LnE-00187-00049159-00049318 that in terms of the decorum of the WrU2dVh-LnE-00188-00049319-00049574 house that the speaker resumed the chair WrU2dVh-LnE-00189-00049575-00049751 um WrU2dVh-LnE-00190-00049752-00050062 no no i don't i i want to assert WrU2dVh-LnE-00191-00050063-00050415 i want to i want to assert WrU2dVh-LnE-00192-00050416-00050483 the WrU2dVh-LnE-00193-00050484-00050830 primacy the primacy of members of this WrU2dVh-LnE-00194-00050831-00051030 parliament over the conduct of this WrU2dVh-LnE-00195-00051031-00051158 parliament WrU2dVh-LnE-00196-00051159-00051358 that is what i want to assert it's a WrU2dVh-LnE-00197-00051359-00051575 very important principle WrU2dVh-LnE-00198-00051576-00051799 in practice in practice the clocks WrU2dVh-LnE-00199-00051800-00052135 ticking on the 25-minute time limit for WrU2dVh-LnE-00200-00052136-00052399 the suspension that's been moved by the WrU2dVh-LnE-00201-00052400-00052615 manager of opposition business but it is WrU2dVh-LnE-00202-00052616-00052854 a very important principle WrU2dVh-LnE-00203-00052855-00053071 that at any time WrU2dVh-LnE-00204-00053072-00053191 people WrU2dVh-LnE-00205-00053191-00053423 are allowed to take actions in WrU2dVh-LnE-00206-00053424-00053711 accordance with the procedures uh that WrU2dVh-LnE-00207-00053712-00053975 are allowed for in this house uh what WrU2dVh-LnE-00208-00053976-00054230 would not be appropriate would be and in WrU2dVh-LnE-00209-00054232-00054494 the past as if a member was interrupted WrU2dVh-LnE-00210-00054495-00054735 while they were speaking WrU2dVh-LnE-00211-00054736-00055007 to move a suspension but it is perfectly WrU2dVh-LnE-00212-00055008-00055319 in order to interrupt in between WrU2dVh-LnE-00213-00055320-00055615 speakers to move a suspension including WrU2dVh-LnE-00214-00055616-00055847 a suspension of the standing order that WrU2dVh-LnE-00215-00055848-00056135 provides for the suspensions of standing WrU2dVh-LnE-00216-00056136-00056438 orders to be ordinarily conducted WrU2dVh-LnE-00217-00056439-00056703 at a change of business that is the WrU2dVh-LnE-00218-00056704-00056959 normal procedure but given that there is WrU2dVh-LnE-00219-00056960-00057263 no change of business envisaged before WrU2dVh-LnE-00220-00057264-00057399 the parliament WrU2dVh-LnE-00221-00057400-00057647 with the current item that is before the WrU2dVh-LnE-00222-00057648-00057863 parliament until it uh WrU2dVh-LnE-00223-00057864-00058263 until it uh concludes at 5 pm that is WrU2dVh-LnE-00224-00058264-00058550 why the opposition have taken at this WrU2dVh-LnE-00225-00058551-00058719 decision WrU2dVh-LnE-00226-00058720-00058894 i thank the member for grant further to WrU2dVh-LnE-00227-00058895-00059103 the point of order yes mr second deputy WrU2dVh-LnE-00228-00059104-00059199 speaker WrU2dVh-LnE-00229-00059200-00059359 i think for the elucidation of the WrU2dVh-LnE-00230-00059360-00059566 opposition and for the house the reason WrU2dVh-LnE-00231-00059567-00059750 why oppositions routinely move such WrU2dVh-LnE-00232-00059751-00059950 suspensions at nine o'clock straight WrU2dVh-LnE-00233-00059951-00060150 after prayers for example is because WrU2dVh-LnE-00234-00060151-00060430 it's before the business of the day has WrU2dVh-LnE-00235-00060432-00060694 begun that is the reason why WrU2dVh-LnE-00236-00060695-00060887 members of the opposition have done that WrU2dVh-LnE-00237-00060888-00061103 and as i manage opposition business in WrU2dVh-LnE-00238-00061104-00061319 the house myself in the past WrU2dVh-LnE-00239-00061320-00061535 and as a member of the opposition it was WrU2dVh-LnE-00240-00061536-00061703 always my understanding that there was WrU2dVh-LnE-00241-00061704-00061879 to be a suspension of standing orders WrU2dVh-LnE-00242-00061879-00062150 moved it needed to be between two items WrU2dVh-LnE-00243-00062151-00062382 of government business and at nine WrU2dVh-LnE-00244-00062383-00062638 o'clock that was the usual time now the WrU2dVh-LnE-00245-00062639-00062806 matter the fact is it wasn't when a WrU2dVh-LnE-00246-00062807-00063047 speaker sat down and before the next WrU2dVh-LnE-00247-00063048-00063271 speaker got up in the middle of an item WrU2dVh-LnE-00248-00063272-00063511 of business so i don't i'm sure the WrU2dVh-LnE-00249-00063512-00063694 opposition wants to WrU2dVh-LnE-00250-00063695-00063942 fulminate about this matter WrU2dVh-LnE-00251-00063944-00064175 my suggestion is that they do so at the WrU2dVh-LnE-00252-00064176-00064406 appropriate time and that is when there WrU2dVh-LnE-00253-00064407-00064591 is a change over of items of business i WrU2dVh-LnE-00254-00064591-00064806 think you've made the right call mr WrU2dVh-LnE-00255-00064807-00065023 second deputy speaker and do they offer WrU2dVh-LnE-00256-00065024-00065215 the government supports you in it WrU2dVh-LnE-00257-00065216-00065366 to the point of order to the point of WrU2dVh-LnE-00258-00065367-00065543 one the manager of opposition business WrU2dVh-LnE-00259-00065544-00065719 uh thank you if i can make a further WrU2dVh-LnE-00260-00065720-00065879 submission in the light of what the WrU2dVh-LnE-00261-00065880-00066047 leader of the house has just said the WrU2dVh-LnE-00262-00066048-00066215 leader of the house has just referred to WrU2dVh-LnE-00263-00066216-00066367 ordinary routine WrU2dVh-LnE-00264-00066368-00066543 there is nothing routine about what the WrU2dVh-LnE-00265-00066544-00066775 house is dealing with right now WrU2dVh-LnE-00266-00066776-00067079 nobody had any way of predicting WrU2dVh-LnE-00267-00067080-00067287 that the commissioner would engage WrU2dVh-LnE-00268-00067288-00067535 himself in liberal party fundraising and WrU2dVh-LnE-00269-00067536-00067767 the house has to have the right to be WrU2dVh-LnE-00270-00067768-00067975 able to debate that issue this is WrU2dVh-LnE-00271-00067976-00068231 completely without precedent completely WrU2dVh-LnE-00272-00068232-00068471 without and the house must be allowed to WrU2dVh-LnE-00273-00068472-00068703 suspend the stat relevant standing order WrU2dVh-LnE-00274-00068704-00068991 to have that debate as we are told a WrU2dVh-LnE-00275-00068992-00069247 free and open flowing debate is what's WrU2dVh-LnE-00276-00069248-00069415 meant to happen well it should be WrU2dVh-LnE-00277-00069416-00069679 happening right now and this is the one WrU2dVh-LnE-00278-00069680-00069887 way for it to occur we've moved the WrU2dVh-LnE-00279-00069888-00070175 suspension of that very standing order WrU2dVh-LnE-00280-00070176-00070343 and the house must be allowed to have WrU2dVh-LnE-00281-00070344-00070567 this debate it must not be used by the WrU2dVh-LnE-00282-00070568-00070806 leader of the house to cover up the head WrU2dVh-LnE-00283-00070807-00071015 of a royal commission engaging in WrU2dVh-LnE-00284-00071016-00071255 liberal party fundraising WrU2dVh-LnE-00285-00071256-00071415 i thank the member for opposition music WrU2dVh-LnE-00286-00071416-00071679 of the quarterly WrU2dVh-LnE-00287-00071680-00071935 the truth is you you've made a ruling WrU2dVh-LnE-00288-00071936-00072119 if the opposition wants to disagree with WrU2dVh-LnE-00289-00072120-00072238 your ruling WrU2dVh-LnE-00290-00072239-00072455 uh they need to move a WrU2dVh-LnE-00291-00072456-00072759 uh emotion dissenting from your ruling i WrU2dVh-LnE-00292-00072760-00072982 i think that would be unwise my WrU2dVh-LnE-00293-00072983-00073126 suggestion to them is if they wish to WrU2dVh-LnE-00294-00073127-00073319 pursue this they should do so at the WrU2dVh-LnE-00295-00073320-00073543 next changeover of business which i WrU2dVh-LnE-00296-00073544-00073767 assume is two o'clock they wish to do it WrU2dVh-LnE-00297-00073768-00073982 at question time we can have the debate WrU2dVh-LnE-00298-00073983-00074199 then entirely as you wish to do so you WrU2dVh-LnE-00299-00074200-00074406 can ask a few questions too deputy WrU2dVh-LnE-00300-00074407-00074575 leader that's the that's the greatness WrU2dVh-LnE-00301-00074576-00074815 of this democracy but we can't go on WrU2dVh-LnE-00302-00074816-00075015 with endless discussions about this WrU2dVh-LnE-00303-00075016-00075159 point of order WrU2dVh-LnE-00304-00075160-00075319 we can't go on with endless discussions WrU2dVh-LnE-00305-00075320-00075519 about this point of order either they WrU2dVh-LnE-00306-00075520-00075726 move a dissentingly ruling or we have to WrU2dVh-LnE-00307-00075727-00076006 move on mr second deputy speaker i thank WrU2dVh-LnE-00308-00076007-00076303 the leader of government business WrU2dVh-LnE-00309-00076304-00076615 in light of the debate i will stick with WrU2dVh-LnE-00310-00076616-00076806 my ruling that stands that the WrU2dVh-LnE-00311-00076807-00077023 suspension cannot be done at this point WrU2dVh-LnE-00312-00077024-00077231 of time WrU2dVh-LnE-00313-00077232-00077535 under standing order 47 WrU2dVh-LnE-00314-00077536-00077775 c 1 WrU2dVh-LnE-00315-00077776-00078031 and will return to the business before WrU2dVh-LnE-00316-00078032-00078447 the chair WrU2dVh-LnE-00317-00078448-00078662 you haven't got the call yet dan just WrU2dVh-LnE-00318-00078663-00078903 wait WrU2dVh-LnE-00319-00078904-00078975 so WrU2dVh-LnE-00320-00078976-00079199 the question before the chair is that WrU2dVh-LnE-00321-00079200-00079479 the motion be agreed to WrU2dVh-LnE-00322-00079480-00079719 and i will call the member for one WrU2dVh-LnE-00323-00079720-00079967 thank you mr deputy speaker and on WrU2dVh-LnE-00324-00079968-00080280 saturday afternoon