ximD1U2UQdA-00000-00000008-00000223 all righty hello folks uh we're here
ximD1U2UQdA-00001-00000224-00000303 talking
ximD1U2UQdA-00002-00000304-00000647 uh about 25 at risk uh with myself
ximD1U2UQdA-00003-00000648-00000734 matthew ellison
ximD1U2UQdA-00004-00000735-00001039 founder of hdo and i'm joined by ellie
ximD1U2UQdA-00005-00001040-00001166 who's a young person
ximD1U2UQdA-00006-00001167-00001447 uh from england and we've got uh we're
ximD1U2UQdA-00007-00001448-00001591 fortunate enough to have two genetic
ximD1U2UQdA-00008-00001592-00001679 counselors with us
ximD1U2UQdA-00009-00001680-00001910 also from england so we've got bill and
ximD1U2UQdA-00010-00001911-00002023 we've got harriet
ximD1U2UQdA-00011-00002023-00002423 both working in manchester um
ximD1U2UQdA-00012-00002424-00002567 so ellie would you like to introduce
ximD1U2UQdA-00013-00002568-00002742 yourself hi
ximD1U2UQdA-00014-00002743-00002975 i'm hey i'm and i'm from the black
ximD1U2UQdA-00015-00002976-00003142 country
ximD1U2UQdA-00016-00003143-00003535 nice i'm bill and harriet
ximD1U2UQdA-00017-00003536-00003767 hi yeah i'm bill i'm um i've been
ximD1U2UQdA-00018-00003768-00003919 energetic cancer for
ximD1U2UQdA-00019-00003920-00004206 12 years now in manchester and i'm
ximD1U2UQdA-00020-00004207-00004279 harriet
ximD1U2UQdA-00021-00004280-00004486 and i'm also a genetic counselor not
ximD1U2UQdA-00022-00004487-00004783 been working quite as long as bill
ximD1U2UQdA-00023-00004784-00005022 super and ellie do you want to share
ximD1U2UQdA-00024-00005023-00005263 your hd
ximD1U2UQdA-00025-00005264-00005422 situation a little bit or how you came
ximD1U2UQdA-00026-00005423-00005647 into kind of knowing about hd
ximD1U2UQdA-00027-00005648-00005959 and then we'll yeah so um basically it
ximD1U2UQdA-00028-00005960-00006254 was from my dad's side of the family
ximD1U2UQdA-00029-00006255-00006567 and it was my dad's mom so my nan
ximD1U2UQdA-00030-00006568-00006878 um who would god eat stuff um and from
ximD1U2UQdA-00031-00006879-00007095 quite early on i decided that like
ximD1U2UQdA-00032-00007095-00007470 i knew that i would want to be tested um
ximD1U2UQdA-00033-00007472-00007687 and my auntie who you've obviously met
ximD1U2UQdA-00034-00007688-00007846 with before i may
ximD1U2UQdA-00035-00007847-00008183 she got tested when she was 18 and as a
ximD1U2UQdA-00036-00008184-00008335 positive result
ximD1U2UQdA-00037-00008336-00008559 and one of the main reasons for being
ximD1U2UQdA-00038-00008560-00008751 tested was that she knew that
ximD1U2UQdA-00039-00008752-00008903 in her future she would want to have
ximD1U2UQdA-00040-00008904-00009135 children um
ximD1U2UQdA-00041-00009136-00009342 and that was the same for me i think
ximD1U2UQdA-00042-00009343-00009527 obviously being a girl you feel like
ximD1U2UQdA-00043-00009528-00009710 maternal and stuff and you sort of know
ximD1U2UQdA-00044-00009711-00009759 that
ximD1U2UQdA-00045-00009760-00009927 that's what you want to have in your
ximD1U2UQdA-00046-00009928-00010095 future um
ximD1U2UQdA-00047-00010096-00010310 and obviously it can be passed down if
ximD1U2UQdA-00048-00010311-00010495 you just have a child naturally so
ximD1U2UQdA-00049-00010496-00010646 that was one of the main reasons that
ximD1U2UQdA-00050-00010647-00010855 we're wanting to know um
ximD1U2UQdA-00051-00010856-00011159 and the second reason was just relay
ximD1U2UQdA-00052-00011160-00011406 um like just the not knowing was
ximD1U2UQdA-00053-00011407-00011495 bothering me
ximD1U2UQdA-00054-00011496-00011799 more than actually finding out and it
ximD1U2UQdA-00055-00011800-00011983 was always something that i wanted to do
ximD1U2UQdA-00056-00011984-00012095 but obviously i knew that you couldn't
ximD1U2UQdA-00057-00012096-00012327 tell you were like 18 or whatever
ximD1U2UQdA-00058-00012328-00012663 um i spoke about it with my dad
ximD1U2UQdA-00059-00012664-00012999 and my um and my dad was like just sort
ximD1U2UQdA-00060-00013000-00013079 of
ximD1U2UQdA-00061-00013080-00013247 buried his head in the sand didn't want
ximD1U2UQdA-00062-00013247-00013399 to get tested
ximD1U2UQdA-00063-00013400-00013622 and made very clear that he didn't want
ximD1U2UQdA-00064-00013623-00013711 to get tested
ximD1U2UQdA-00065-00013712-00014015 and this was sort of a few years prior
ximD1U2UQdA-00066-00014016-00014271 to me actually having the tech um
ximD1U2UQdA-00067-00014272-00014455 so we sort of tried to convince me my
ximD1U2UQdA-00068-00014456-00014622 mom tried to convince him
ximD1U2UQdA-00069-00014623-00014927 um but there was sort of
ximD1U2UQdA-00070-00014928-00015327 no getting around relay um so
ximD1U2UQdA-00071-00015328-00015543 on my 18th birthday that's the way you
ximD1U2UQdA-00072-00015544-00015750 grow only two of us to now my i think
ximD1U2UQdA-00073-00015751-00015886 first i went to the doctors to get
ximD1U2UQdA-00074-00015887-00016007 referred
ximD1U2UQdA-00075-00016008-00016255 and that was in the january and i didn't
ximD1U2UQdA-00076-00016256-00016479 get my results until the december so it
ximD1U2UQdA-00077-00016480-00016591 took about a year
ximD1U2UQdA-00078-00016592-00016894 um well just under a year entitled to
ximD1U2UQdA-00079-00016895-00017007 actually
ximD1U2UQdA-00080-00017008-00017143 like from start to finish to get
ximD1U2UQdA-00081-00017144-00017343 referred and to actually get my results
ximD1U2UQdA-00082-00017344-00017630 and my dad knew that that it was what i
ximD1U2UQdA-00083-00017631-00017703 was doing
ximD1U2UQdA-00084-00017704-00017919 um and like he was supportive of me
ximD1U2UQdA-00085-00017920-00018047 finding out
ximD1U2UQdA-00086-00018048-00018183 obviously he knew that if i had a
ximD1U2UQdA-00087-00018184-00018455 negative result that he still
ximD1U2UQdA-00088-00018456-00018847 would be non the wiser to his result um
ximD1U2UQdA-00089-00018848-00019175 but if i had a positive result obviously
ximD1U2UQdA-00090-00019176-00019486 that would mean that he did as well um
ximD1U2UQdA-00091-00019487-00019647 so he came to some of my appointments
ximD1U2UQdA-00092-00019648-00019799 with meg um
ximD1U2UQdA-00093-00019800-00020143 and i think it was my second appointment
ximD1U2UQdA-00094-00020144-00020247 the gymnastics
ximD1U2UQdA-00095-00020248-00020463 um council class to like just have a
ximD1U2UQdA-00096-00020464-00020599 little chat with my dad
ximD1U2UQdA-00097-00020600-00020950 on um on their own just to sort of they
ximD1U2UQdA-00098-00020951-00021071 could make sure that it wouldn't affect
ximD1U2UQdA-00099-00021072-00021199 my dad too much if he did
ximD1U2UQdA-00100-00021200-00021422 find out um obviously he didn't want to
ximD1U2UQdA-00101-00021423-00021567 find out before so just thought of that
ximD1U2UQdA-00102-00021568-00021663 sort of
ximD1U2UQdA-00103-00021664-00021871 thing and then he came to my results
ximD1U2UQdA-00104-00021872-00021991 test with may
ximD1U2UQdA-00105-00021992-00022199 um so he was in the room when they gave
ximD1U2UQdA-00106-00022200-00022358 us the results and obviously it was
ximD1U2UQdA-00107-00022359-00022567 positive
ximD1U2UQdA-00108-00022568-00022727 so that meant that i got more result
ximD1U2UQdA-00109-00022728-00022983 that day but also he got his
ximD1U2UQdA-00110-00022984-00023230 um so that was a bit strange because it
ximD1U2UQdA-00111-00023231-00023367 was sort of like
ximD1U2UQdA-00112-00023368-00023599 a bit of like a double whammy like we
ximD1U2UQdA-00113-00023600-00023727 sort of and then obviously i've got a
ximD1U2UQdA-00114-00023728-00024014 younger sister as well who's 14 so then
ximD1U2UQdA-00115-00024015-00024127 the next sort of thing was like
ximD1U2UQdA-00116-00024128-00024311 obviously the worry for her whereas if i
ximD1U2UQdA-00117-00024312-00024439 would have got a negative result that
ximD1U2UQdA-00118-00024440-00024519 would have
ximD1U2UQdA-00119-00024520-00024655 meant that we didn't have to worry about
ximD1U2UQdA-00120-00024656-00024894 her that she wouldn't have it and
ximD1U2UQdA-00121-00024895-00025063 and that maybe my dad didn't have either
ximD1U2UQdA-00122-00025064-00025214 so it was
ximD1U2UQdA-00123-00025215-00025583 it was a hard day um to be fair
ximD1U2UQdA-00124-00025584-00025806 yeah because it was lots of things you
ximD1U2UQdA-00125-00025807-00026031 want lots of emotions
ximD1U2UQdA-00126-00026032-00026383 thank you ellie um yeah
ximD1U2UQdA-00127-00026383-00026639 it's it is i find it really really
ximD1U2UQdA-00128-00026639-00026711 difficult
ximD1U2UQdA-00129-00026712-00027095 to understand what it must be like to
ximD1U2UQdA-00130-00027095-00027335 be in that situation even though i've
ximD1U2UQdA-00131-00027336-00027495 been through testing myself
ximD1U2UQdA-00132-00027495-00027807 um yeah it was just
ximD1U2UQdA-00133-00027808-00028062 standard i would call standard hd risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00134-00028063-00028302 and
ximD1U2UQdA-00135-00028304-00028623 50 50 odds um yeah and i
ximD1U2UQdA-00136-00028624-00028807 only really had to think about myself in
ximD1U2UQdA-00137-00028808-00029014 that sense um
ximD1U2UQdA-00138-00029016-00029383 but with you being at 25 risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00139-00029383-00029718 it's you also going to think about your
ximD1U2UQdA-00140-00029719-00030046 your father and his yeah
ximD1U2UQdA-00141-00030047-00030399 i find it really really um yeah i think
ximD1U2UQdA-00142-00030400-00030462 it's
ximD1U2UQdA-00143-00030463-00030751 potentially harder than 50 risk even
ximD1U2UQdA-00144-00030752-00030902 though your odds are less of getting
ximD1U2UQdA-00145-00030903-00031095 huntington's in that sense
ximD1U2UQdA-00146-00031095-00031383 it seems like mentally that seems a
ximD1U2UQdA-00147-00031383-00031527 harder thing to go for
ximD1U2UQdA-00148-00031527-00031831 yeah definitely was um
ximD1U2UQdA-00149-00031832-00031974 we both was like crying and upset and
ximD1U2UQdA-00150-00031975-00032246 stuff both of us just felt really guilty
ximD1U2UQdA-00151-00032247-00032302 like
ximD1U2UQdA-00152-00032303-00032623 i felt guilty for obviously making my
ximD1U2UQdA-00153-00032624-00032815 dad find out his results even though
ximD1U2UQdA-00154-00032816-00032959 if it was up to him he didn't really
ximD1U2UQdA-00155-00032960-00033135 want her and
ximD1U2UQdA-00156-00033136-00033302 and then he felt guilty for not getting
ximD1U2UQdA-00157-00033303-00033487 tested earlier and
ximD1U2UQdA-00158-00033488-00033774 like other stuff so it was it was hard
ximD1U2UQdA-00159-00033775-00033967 like we both felt really bad
ximD1U2UQdA-00160-00033968-00034223 and on the other one and then i felt a
ximD1U2UQdA-00161-00034224-00034374 bit guilty for like my sister because i
ximD1U2UQdA-00162-00034375-00034511 was thinking
ximD1U2UQdA-00163-00034512-00034767 before i got tested she was only at 25
ximD1U2UQdA-00164-00034768-00034815 risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00165-00034816-00035046 whereas near me and my dad have both
ximD1U2UQdA-00166-00035047-00035279 tested positive it means she's in the 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00167-00035280-00035751 category so yeah i think mentally
ximD1U2UQdA-00168-00035752-00036046 not that it's worse but there was sort
ximD1U2UQdA-00169-00036047-00036174 of a lot more
ximD1U2UQdA-00170-00036175-00036351 components to think about if that makes
ximD1U2UQdA-00171-00036352-00036495 sense you did yeah
ximD1U2UQdA-00172-00036496-00036623 that i think that's a good way to put it
ximD1U2UQdA-00173-00036624-00036823 there's an extra bit to think about
ximD1U2UQdA-00174-00036824-00037046 yeah um yeah i think that's a good way
ximD1U2UQdA-00175-00037047-00037135 to put it
ximD1U2UQdA-00176-00037136-00037383 um but we're throwing around a lot of 25
ximD1U2UQdA-00177-00037384-00037455 and 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00178-00037456-00037646 risks so i just want to get in the
ximD1U2UQdA-00179-00037647-00037799 genetic counselors and just kind of can
ximD1U2UQdA-00180-00037800-00037887 you guys kind of
ximD1U2UQdA-00181-00037888-00038151 clarify for people anyone watching what
ximD1U2UQdA-00182-00038152-00038327 we're talking about with 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00183-00038328-00038630 and 25 risk and the difference there
ximD1U2UQdA-00184-00038631-00038830 so how ellie got to being 25 percent at
ximD1U2UQdA-00185-00038831-00039007 risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00186-00039008-00039318 yeah absolutely so basic
ximD1U2UQdA-00187-00039319-00039567 beings of genes even like what our genes
ximD1U2UQdA-00188-00039568-00039662 genes are just like
ximD1U2UQdA-00189-00039663-00039887 instructions in the body so we've got
ximD1U2UQdA-00190-00039888-00040079 specific genes for specific
ximD1U2UQdA-00191-00040080-00040374 jobs and here in huntington's disease
ximD1U2UQdA-00192-00040375-00040527 we're talking about the hd
ximD1U2UQdA-00193-00040528-00040718 gene so that's got a really important
ximD1U2UQdA-00194-00040719-00040902 role in looking after
ximD1U2UQdA-00195-00040903-00041127 our brain and on neurons and things like
ximD1U2UQdA-00196-00041128-00041207 that
ximD1U2UQdA-00197-00041208-00041511 so we've all got the hd gene
ximD1U2UQdA-00198-00041512-00041799 and we've all got two copies of it and
ximD1U2UQdA-00199-00041800-00041927 that's because you get one from your mum
ximD1U2UQdA-00200-00041928-00042079 and one from your dad
ximD1U2UQdA-00201-00042080-00042455 and what we know is somebody with hd
ximD1U2UQdA-00202-00042456-00042687 one of their copies of that gene is
ximD1U2UQdA-00203-00042688-00042815 expanded
ximD1U2UQdA-00204-00042816-00043015 and that causes the condition but they
ximD1U2UQdA-00205-00043016-00043158 have a second copy
ximD1U2UQdA-00206-00043159-00043527 which is of a normal size so
ximD1U2UQdA-00207-00043528-00043758 when someone has a child you don't pass
ximD1U2UQdA-00208-00043759-00043902 on both of your copies
ximD1U2UQdA-00209-00043903-00044215 of the hd gene you pass on one or the
ximD1U2UQdA-00210-00044216-00044327 other
ximD1U2UQdA-00211-00044328-00044718 so somebody with hd or with the expanded
ximD1U2UQdA-00212-00044719-00044871 copy we know they've got one copy that's
ximD1U2UQdA-00213-00044872-00045111 expanded and one that's normal size
ximD1U2UQdA-00214-00045112-00045455 it's a 50 50 of which one they pass on
ximD1U2UQdA-00215-00045456-00045855 to their child so when we have a parent
ximD1U2UQdA-00216-00045856-00045918 who's
ximD1U2UQdA-00217-00045919-00046262 not been tested but their parent
ximD1U2UQdA-00218-00046263-00046607 had hd we know there's a 50 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00219-00046608-00046823 of whether that parent has inherited the
ximD1U2UQdA-00220-00046824-00047039 expanded copy
ximD1U2UQdA-00221-00047040-00047183 but we know that that parent doesn't
ximD1U2UQdA-00222-00047184-00047430 pass on both copies to the child
ximD1U2UQdA-00223-00047431-00047683 they only pass on half of whatever they
ximD1U2UQdA-00224-00047684-00047846 have so
ximD1U2UQdA-00225-00047847-00048055 when we meet somebody like ellie when
ximD1U2UQdA-00226-00048056-00048158 you were first met
ximD1U2UQdA-00227-00048159-00048430 in the clinic when you have a parent
ximD1U2UQdA-00228-00048431-00048615 who's not had testing
ximD1U2UQdA-00229-00048616-00048974 their risk is 50 and the child's risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00230-00048975-00049246 that ellie's risk was half of that
ximD1U2UQdA-00231-00049247-00049558 so half of 50 is 25
ximD1U2UQdA-00232-00049559-00049790 so that's how we get to that that
ximD1U2UQdA-00233-00049791-00050046 position with somebody like ellie
ximD1U2UQdA-00234-00050047-00050318 so i think that does that make sense for
ximD1U2UQdA-00235-00050319-00050430 you guys here
ximD1U2UQdA-00236-00050431-00051007 hopefully that will make sense to others
ximD1U2UQdA-00237-00051008-00051246 it makes sense to me i don't know if it
ximD1U2UQdA-00238-00051247-00051350 makes sense to everyone else but we'll
ximD1U2UQdA-00239-00051351-00051438 find out
ximD1U2UQdA-00240-00051439-00051687 uh but but yeah it is difficult to kind
ximD1U2UQdA-00241-00051688-00051870 of explain it but it's like
ximD1U2UQdA-00242-00051871-00052158 okay so you've got a parent who's got
ximD1U2UQdA-00243-00052159-00052238 this 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00244-00052239-00052511 risk which is kind of standard for hd
ximD1U2UQdA-00245-00052512-00052647 that you people have that 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00246-00052648-00053079 risk um and then you've got
ximD1U2UQdA-00247-00053079-00053471 parents who have children like ellie um
ximD1U2UQdA-00248-00053472-00053607 but the parents don't want to get tested
ximD1U2UQdA-00249-00053608-00053782 so they're still at 50 risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00250-00053783-00054094 or haven't yet got tested so therefore
ximD1U2UQdA-00251-00054095-00054230 we can say that ellie is
ximD1U2UQdA-00252-00054232-00054535 is 25 at risk at that moment
ximD1U2UQdA-00253-00054536-00054807 i think from the genetic counselor's
ximD1U2UQdA-00254-00054808-00054926 viewpoint like
ximD1U2UQdA-00255-00054927-00055150 what is the is there a protocol for
ximD1U2UQdA-00256-00055151-00055279 dealing with 25
ximD1U2UQdA-00257-00055279-00055519 for huntington's and what is generally
ximD1U2UQdA-00258-00055520-00055671 that protocol that's meant to be
ximD1U2UQdA-00259-00055672-00055911 followed
ximD1U2UQdA-00260-00055912-00056182 so shall i come in um so the the short
ximD1U2UQdA-00261-00056183-00056375 answer is matt really there isn't uh a
ximD1U2UQdA-00262-00056376-00056535 hard and fast protocol there's not a
ximD1U2UQdA-00263-00056536-00056607 sort of set
ximD1U2UQdA-00264-00056608-00056854 um you know guide that that that takes
ximD1U2UQdA-00265-00056855-00056975 us through a 25
ximD1U2UQdA-00266-00056976-00057303 scenario any different really to a 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00267-00057304-00057463 scenario everyone's different everyone's
ximD1U2UQdA-00268-00057464-00057615 an individual
ximD1U2UQdA-00269-00057616-00057830 so so we obviously as genetic counselors
ximD1U2UQdA-00270-00057832-00057966 want to explore a little bit
ximD1U2UQdA-00271-00057967-00058191 about you know their knowledge of hd
ximD1U2UQdA-00272-00058191-00058342 their background what you know what it
ximD1U2UQdA-00273-00058344-00058479 means to them and
ximD1U2UQdA-00274-00058479-00058775 and see what the starting point is uh as
ximD1U2UQdA-00275-00058776-00058903 you probably know there are
ximD1U2UQdA-00276-00058904-00059111 some guidelines that we work with to try
ximD1U2UQdA-00277-00059112-00059238 and make sure that we're
ximD1U2UQdA-00278-00059239-00059430 doing that in the in the most supportive
ximD1U2UQdA-00279-00059432-00059638 and best way possible to to take people
ximD1U2UQdA-00280-00059639-00059815 through that process
ximD1U2UQdA-00281-00059816-00059982 and that does cover a little bit around
ximD1U2UQdA-00282-00059983-00060238 25 risk um
ximD1U2UQdA-00283-00060239-00060526 so basically that that kind of suggests
ximD1U2UQdA-00284-00060527-00060638 that we should be
ximD1U2UQdA-00285-00060639-00060838 cautious around that scenario because
ximD1U2UQdA-00286-00060839-00061030 obviously as ellie said you know the
ximD1U2UQdA-00287-00061032-00061271 that feeling of there could be a double
ximD1U2UQdA-00288-00061272-00061423 whammy that that feeling of
ximD1U2UQdA-00289-00061424-00061871 of two results in one and um
ximD1U2UQdA-00290-00061872-00062182 so is it
ximD1U2UQdA-00291-00062183-00062559 there's no protocol but is it generally
ximD1U2UQdA-00292-00062560-00062791 accepted that the jetty councils will
ximD1U2UQdA-00293-00062791-00062894 will speak to the
ximD1U2UQdA-00294-00062895-00063166 to the parent who's also at 50 risk as
ximD1U2UQdA-00295-00063167-00063326 well
ximD1U2UQdA-00296-00063327-00063535 so that's certainly encouraged in the
ximD1U2UQdA-00297-00063536-00063638 guidelines so that
ximD1U2UQdA-00298-00063639-00063823 that's you know our starting point is
ximD1U2UQdA-00299-00063824-00063942 that that would be seen as
ximD1U2UQdA-00300-00063944-00064103 as best practice in a way you know
ximD1U2UQdA-00301-00064104-00064311 that's the ideal because obviously
ximD1U2UQdA-00302-00064312-00064654 um you know we a bit like someone at 50
ximD1U2UQdA-00303-00064655-00064711 risk
ximD1U2UQdA-00304-00064712-00064806 you know you want them to have the
ximD1U2UQdA-00305-00064807-00064975 information and the support going
ximD1U2UQdA-00306-00064976-00065111 through that process
ximD1U2UQdA-00307-00065112-00065271 yeah i was just going to come in there
ximD1U2UQdA-00308-00065272-00065454 and say that a lot of
ximD1U2UQdA-00309-00065455-00065903 the thinking around these scenarios is
ximD1U2UQdA-00310-00065904-00066111 trying to come to a sort of a
ximD1U2UQdA-00311-00066112-00066223 satisfactory
ximD1U2UQdA-00312-00066224-00066519 solution for everybody that's involved
ximD1U2UQdA-00313-00066520-00066671 so it's it's never really
ximD1U2UQdA-00314-00066672-00067055 a case of we need sort of um
ximD1U2UQdA-00315-00067056-00067399 consent or the the you know the go-ahead
ximD1U2UQdA-00316-00067400-00067647 from the parent who's at 50 risk it's
ximD1U2UQdA-00317-00067648-00067823 not exactly that way that we're looking
ximD1U2UQdA-00318-00067824-00067887 at it
ximD1U2UQdA-00319-00067888-00068063 it's we're looking at it that which
ximD1U2UQdA-00320-00068064-00068199 we're trying to make sure we're doing
ximD1U2UQdA-00321-00068200-00068399 the we're making the fairest
ximD1U2UQdA-00322-00068400-00068767 decision and we're not not to use two
ximD1U2UQdA-00323-00068768-00068799 strong
ximD1U2UQdA-00324-00068800-00069063 words but sort of not violating one
ximD1U2UQdA-00325-00069064-00069167 person's
ximD1U2UQdA-00326-00069168-00069511 right over another um
ximD1U2UQdA-00327-00069512-00069815 ellie so it sounds like your
ximD1U2UQdA-00328-00069816-00070119 father he obviously didn't want to get
ximD1U2UQdA-00329-00070120-00070215 tested
ximD1U2UQdA-00330-00070216-00070559 um but it seems like when you started
ximD1U2UQdA-00331-00070560-00070655 getting tested
ximD1U2UQdA-00332-00070656-00071006 he was happy for that to continue anyway
ximD1U2UQdA-00333-00071007-00071223 and he was part of your process going
ximD1U2UQdA-00334-00071224-00071311 through
ximD1U2UQdA-00335-00071312-00071462 so i'm just wondering kind of like how
ximD1U2UQdA-00336-00071463-00071662 that went with with you and your father
ximD1U2UQdA-00337-00071663-00071879 as you were getting tested how his
ximD1U2UQdA-00338-00071880-00072023 reactions were as you went
ximD1U2UQdA-00339-00072024-00072367 along yeah i think like because like i
ximD1U2UQdA-00340-00072368-00072415 say
ximD1U2UQdA-00341-00072416-00072750 earlier that i've been on on not onto
ximD1U2UQdA-00342-00072751-00072894 him about it but i'd like it was
ximD1U2UQdA-00343-00072895-00073038 something that i brought up numerous
ximD1U2UQdA-00344-00073039-00073143 times
ximD1U2UQdA-00345-00073144-00073455 years and years before i actually come
ximD1U2UQdA-00346-00073456-00073623 to the point of getting tested
ximD1U2UQdA-00347-00073624-00073935 and so he sort of he knew that when i
ximD1U2UQdA-00348-00073936-00074094 turned 18 that was going to be what i
ximD1U2UQdA-00349-00074095-00074199 was doing
ximD1U2UQdA-00350-00074200-00074438 and so it worked like it was like one
ximD1U2UQdA-00351-00074439-00074503 day i just
ximD1U2UQdA-00352-00074504-00074703 told you when it was like the blue he'd
ximD1U2UQdA-00353-00074704-00074879 he'd give him a bit a bit of time to
ximD1U2UQdA-00354-00074880-00074926 know
ximD1U2UQdA-00355-00074927-00075087 what i was gonna do and i'd always been
ximD1U2UQdA-00356-00075088-00075319 very open um
ximD1U2UQdA-00357-00075320-00075559 about that with him and then i suppose
ximD1U2UQdA-00358-00075560-00075735 because the testing process
ximD1U2UQdA-00359-00075736-00076031 process took almost a year again that
ximD1U2UQdA-00360-00076032-00076159 gave him like another
ximD1U2UQdA-00361-00076160-00076406 set of time to sort of get his head
ximD1U2UQdA-00362-00076407-00076543 around it a little bit
ximD1U2UQdA-00363-00076544-00076743 that's that's really interesting um i
ximD1U2UQdA-00364-00076744-00076855 think
ximD1U2UQdA-00365-00076856-00077223 my query um is
ximD1U2UQdA-00366-00077224-00077391 and it's really for for bill and harry
ximD1U2UQdA-00367-00077392-00077567 is what happens if
ximD1U2UQdA-00368-00077568-00077903 if somebody who's at 50 kind of says
ximD1U2UQdA-00369-00077904-00078023 so like what have happened if ellie's
ximD1U2UQdA-00370-00078024-00078206 father had said actually no
ximD1U2UQdA-00371-00078207-00078438 uh i don't really want to know i don't
ximD1U2UQdA-00372-00078439-00078606 want to be a part of this
ximD1U2UQdA-00373-00078607-00078799 uh this i don't even part of ellie's
ximD1U2UQdA-00374-00078800-00078982 process here um
ximD1U2UQdA-00375-00078983-00079215 what would happen in that circumstance
ximD1U2UQdA-00376-00079216-00079326 um
ximD1U2UQdA-00377-00079327-00079599 thankfully that is probably relatively
ximD1U2UQdA-00378-00079600-00079671 unusual
ximD1U2UQdA-00379-00079672-00079935 um i think you know fortunately we we
ximD1U2UQdA-00380-00079936-00080047 are more
ximD1U2UQdA-00381-00080048-00080223 used to sort of that scenario which and
ximD1U2UQdA-00382-00080224-00080359 he talks about where
ximD1U2UQdA-00383-00080360-00080559 you know parent it maybe hasn't wanted
ximD1U2UQdA-00384-00080560-00080791 to actively pursue themselves but
ximD1U2UQdA-00385-00080792-00080991 kind of on board with that being their
ximD1U2UQdA-00386-00080992-00081150 children their child's
ximD1U2UQdA-00387-00081151-00081415 decision if we don't have that parent
ximD1U2UQdA-00388-00081416-00081543 being involved
ximD1U2UQdA-00389-00081544-00081759 it does become a bit more of sort of
ximD1U2UQdA-00390-00081760-00081894 this ethical
ximD1U2UQdA-00391-00081895-00082215 um dilemma and a bit of like what i was
ximD1U2UQdA-00392-00082216-00082335 saying before
ximD1U2UQdA-00393-00082336-00082550 that it's a lot to do with making sure
ximD1U2UQdA-00394-00082551-00082791 it's you know a fair decision and the
ximD1U2UQdA-00395-00082792-00082935 patient in front of us who's come
ximD1U2UQdA-00396-00082936-00083150 forward saying they want testing
ximD1U2UQdA-00397-00083151-00083567 it's a lot about we we can't ignore
ximD1U2UQdA-00398-00083568-00083759 them coming forward and saying this is
ximD1U2UQdA-00399-00083760-00083879 the right time for me
ximD1U2UQdA-00400-00083880-00084079 i feel ready for this information so
ximD1U2UQdA-00401-00084080-00084255 then it does become this
ximD1U2UQdA-00402-00084256-00084503 um just taking the time to make sure
ximD1U2UQdA-00403-00084504-00084711 we've considered the person who's not in
ximD1U2UQdA-00404-00084712-00084871 the room
ximD1U2UQdA-00405-00084872-00085159 so ellie uh going back to you and your
ximD1U2UQdA-00406-00085160-00085231 story
ximD1U2UQdA-00407-00085232-00085511 i'm just wondering how it was then when
ximD1U2UQdA-00408-00085512-00085703 you got told that you were positive
ximD1U2UQdA-00409-00085704-00085935 in that genetic counselor's room or
ximD1U2UQdA-00410-00085936-00086062 wherever you were
ximD1U2UQdA-00411-00086063-00086382 um with your father with you
ximD1U2UQdA-00412-00086383-00086575 how did that go down for you and your
ximD1U2UQdA-00413-00086576-00086718 father
ximD1U2UQdA-00414-00086719-00087047 um well it was me my dad my mom
ximD1U2UQdA-00415-00087048-00087367 and my auntie in the room so there was a
ximD1U2UQdA-00416-00087368-00087535 good support system there
ximD1U2UQdA-00417-00087536-00087879 and she gave us the results um
ximD1U2UQdA-00418-00087880-00088206 there's a few tears and stuff and
ximD1U2UQdA-00419-00088207-00088326 and then she just sort of said like is
ximD1U2UQdA-00420-00088327-00088423 there anything you want to speak about
ximD1U2UQdA-00421-00088424-00088582 now do you want to just
ximD1U2UQdA-00422-00088583-00088791 sort of go away digest the information
ximD1U2UQdA-00423-00088792-00088950 and we'll get back in touch soon or you
ximD1U2UQdA-00424-00088951-00089231 can get in touch with those and tom
ximD1U2UQdA-00425-00089232-00089511 we ordered a pizza like just chilled out
ximD1U2UQdA-00426-00089512-00089655 and just sort of like
ximD1U2UQdA-00427-00089656-00089967 let the information sink in um
ximD1U2UQdA-00428-00089968-00090223 because i think it takes a while it was
ximD1U2UQdA-00429-00090224-00090335 probably like
ximD1U2UQdA-00430-00090336-00090503 probably about six months later when we
ximD1U2UQdA-00431-00090504-00090655 finally like
ximD1U2UQdA-00432-00090656-00090935 sort of properly took it in and sort of
ximD1U2UQdA-00433-00090936-00091111 started thinking about it like
ximD1U2UQdA-00434-00091112-00091367 a little bit more we just sort of it was
ximD1U2UQdA-00435-00091368-00091487 close to christmas as well it was like
ximD1U2UQdA-00436-00091488-00091711 two weeks before so we just wanted to
ximD1U2UQdA-00437-00091712-00091879 have nice christmas just sort of forget
ximD1U2UQdA-00438-00091880-00092055 about it for a couple of weeks you know
ximD1U2UQdA-00439-00092056-00092287 what i mean and then sort of
ximD1U2UQdA-00440-00092288-00092599 start thinking about it um a little bit
ximD1U2UQdA-00441-00092600-00092918 more
ximD1U2UQdA-00442-00092919-00093231 and how has it been how have the
ximD1U2UQdA-00443-00093232-00093374 conversations been you and your father
ximD1U2UQdA-00444-00093375-00093479 been about
ximD1U2UQdA-00445-00093480-00093687 you you testing positive since you got
ximD1U2UQdA-00446-00093688-00093967 your results
ximD1U2UQdA-00447-00093968-00094174 i don't feel like that as they were
ximD1U2UQdA-00448-00094175-00094382 never like awkward in the first place
ximD1U2UQdA-00449-00094383-00094423 but they're
ximD1U2UQdA-00450-00094424-00094647 a bit more of a strained conversation
ximD1U2UQdA-00451-00094648-00094791 where there's no because we both know
ximD1U2UQdA-00452-00094792-00094911 our results
ximD1U2UQdA-00453-00094912-00095094 they're not really there because we know
ximD1U2UQdA-00454-00095095-00095223 what the result is so there's not as
ximD1U2UQdA-00455-00095224-00095311 much like
ximD1U2UQdA-00456-00095312-00095582 not tension around it but like you know
ximD1U2UQdA-00457-00095583-00095662 what i mean
ximD1U2UQdA-00458-00095663-00096006 um thank you um
ximD1U2UQdA-00459-00096007-00096215 thank you that's it we're done we're
ximD1U2UQdA-00460-00096216-00096382 done uh so
ximD1U2UQdA-00461-00096383-00096655 uh bill harriet thank you very much for
ximD1U2UQdA-00462-00096656-00096806 your insight really appreciate
ximD1U2UQdA-00463-00096807-00097103 it uh ellie huge thank you for coming on
ximD1U2UQdA-00464-00097104-00097223 and sharing your story
ximD1U2UQdA-00465-00097224-00097494 i truly appreciate it and a real
ximD1U2UQdA-00466-00097495-00097638 pleasure to meet you ellie
ximD1U2UQdA-00467-00097639-00098047 um i'll i will message you afterwards as
ximD1U2UQdA-00468-00098048-00098079 well
ximD1U2UQdA-00469-00098080-00098206 just to send you a little message no
ximD1U2UQdA-00470-00098207-00098494 worries but thank you very much
ximD1U2UQdA-00471-00098495-00098782 uh i'm gonna stop recording now anyway
ximD1U2UQdA-00472-00098783-00099024 bye
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00000-00000448-00000647 if we want to we can structure the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00001-00000648-00000878 market differently
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00002-00000880-00001095 inequality that we get from the market
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00003-00001096-00001303 as a result of the way we structured it
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00004-00001304-00001543 policy decisions and what i want to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00005-00001544-00001734 argue is that we could have different
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00006-00001735-00001951 policy decisions to structure the market
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00007-00001952-00002199 differently and produce outcomes that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00008-00002200-00002439 are more equal first off i want to say
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00009-00002440-00002655 that we have to learn how to slice and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00010-00002656-00002910 dice big proposals into manageable
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00011-00002911-00003183 chunks each of which might be doable and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00012-00003184-00003343 at the end of the day get us where we
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00013-00003344-00003454 want to be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00014-00003455-00003638 second point if you could do something
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00015-00003639-00003775 at a local level you could do something
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00016-00003776-00003967 at the state level do it and if it's
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00017-00003968-00004151 successful other states other cities
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00018-00004152-00004391 will do it and then ideally it will be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00019-00004392-00004559 done nationally third private
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00020-00004560-00004767 foundations can be useful you do have
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00021-00004768-00004975 foundations that are committed to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00022-00004976-00005231 progressive policies in different areas
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00023-00005232-00005391 we should figure out how to use them
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00024-00005392-00005591 effectively last point think like a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00025-00005592-00005759 republican or conservative however you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00026-00005760-00005943 want to put it the other side's been
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00027-00005944-00006134 very effective in designing piecemeal
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00028-00006135-00006383 policies that have advanced conservative
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00029-00006384-00006670 agendas undermined institutions that we
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00030-00006672-00006895 might support so for example medicare
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00031-00006895-00007087 they've adopted changes to medicare that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00032-00007088-00007255 have gone a long way towards undermining
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00033-00007256-00007542 the purpose of the program
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00034-00007543-00008159 [Music]
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00035-00008159-00008383 we could point to the periods of big
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00036-00008384-00008574 change in the united states in the last
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00037-00008575-00008759 century the new deal and the great
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00038-00008760-00009014 society stand out the new deal of course
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00039-00009015-00009239 came about in the great depression okay
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00040-00009240-00009431 so we had a massive depression massive
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00041-00009432-00009623 unemployment we also had a militant
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00042-00009624-00009759 labor movement
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00043-00009760-00010014 and those are not sort of reproducible
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00044-00010015-00010159 conditions first of all we don't really
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00045-00010160-00010351 want to see a great depression so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00046-00010352-00010535 arguing that we need a great depression
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00047-00010536-00010727 of change that's not a really good story
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00048-00010728-00010878 militant labor movement that would be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00049-00010879-00011095 great i mean if we had millions tens of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00050-00011096-00011271 millions of people looking to organize
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00051-00011272-00011423 and they're very militant about that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00052-00011424-00011670 that would be fantastic but that doesn't
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00053-00011671-00011831 just come out of the air so there were
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00054-00011832-00012119 very specific circumstances that gave us
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00055-00012120-00012374 the political force to implement the new
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00056-00012375-00012599 deal policies similarly with great
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00057-00012600-00012791 society the democrats had super
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00058-00012792-00013151 majorities in 64 66 coming in the wake
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00059-00013152-00013415 of john f kennedy's assassination
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00060-00013416-00013622 and it gave the democrats gave
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00061-00013623-00013838 progressives a rare opportunity to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00062-00013840-00014071 implement changes that we really haven't
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00063-00014072-00014366 seen since so it's just not realistic to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00064-00014368-00014479 think that we're going to have a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00065-00014480-00014686 political situation where you could
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00066-00014687-00014919 implement big progressive changes all at
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00067-00014919-00015103 once
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00068-00015104-00015294 that's my argument for why we need to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00069-00015295-00015511 think piecemeal how we can construct big
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00070-00015512-00015750 policies from a lot of smaller more
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00071-00015751-00016007 incremental moves okay so just to take a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00072-00016008-00016263 couple examples medicare for all there's
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00073-00016263-00016430 certainly been a lot of talk a lot of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00074-00016431-00016591 progressives have been pushing for a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00075-00016592-00016775 universal medicare program for for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00076-00016776-00016975 several decades we're not about to get
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00077-00016976-00017183 congress to pass a medicare for all
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00078-00017184-00017391 program but what might we reasonably
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00079-00017392-00017663 hope to do is interim steps this will
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00080-00017664-00017814 seem trivial to people i know i've
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00081-00017815-00017958 raised it with people and seems trivial
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00082-00017959-00018207 lower the medicare age to 64. okay it's
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00083-00018208-00018471 65 now lowered to 64. all right that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00084-00018472-00018719 might not seem like a big deal but to my
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00085-00018720-00018935 view it is a big deal for two reasons
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00086-00018936-00019158 one is you will directly help people so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00087-00019159-00019350 for a lot of people or if health issues
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00088-00019351-00019535 they might not get health care insurance
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00089-00019536-00019750 to their employer the idea of qualifying
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00090-00019751-00019927 for medicare a year earlier will will
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00091-00019928-00020103 mean a lot but the other and more
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00092-00020104-00020286 important part of the story is well if
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00093-00020287-00020535 you could lower it to 64 and that works
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00094-00020536-00020694 people will say well why aren't we lower
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00095-00020695-00020886 to 63 why aren't we lower to 62 why
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00096-00020887-00021094 aren't we lowered to 60 get a foot in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00097-00021095-00021327 the door and it will also have the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00098-00021328-00021494 benefit that we'll see problems
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00099-00021495-00021711 inevitably there will be problems so for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00100-00021712-00021927 tomorrow say okay let's have universal
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00101-00021928-00022111 medicare well there will be problems
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00102-00022112-00022286 i'll guarantee that if we lowered it to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00103-00022287-00022550 60 there'd be problems so if we lower to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00104-00022551-00022814 64 we'll minimize the size of those
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00105-00022815-00023014 problems we'll know what they are and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00106-00023015-00023191 that means we'll have a more open door
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00107-00023192-00023375 if a year two three years out we want to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00108-00023376-00023671 lower it to 62 or 60. so it's a really
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00109-00023672-00023855 really big first step i think it's
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00110-00023856-00024103 something that's doable and it gets us
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00111-00024104-00024367 on the path where to where we want to be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00112-00024368-00024655 second a public option buy-in so again
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00113-00024656-00024799 there's built-in i've talked about this
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00114-00024800-00025022 over the years this isn't wholly
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00115-00025023-00025222 transforming the system it means
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00116-00025223-00025478 allowing people to buy into medicare now
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00117-00025479-00025639 there's other issues we have to bring
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00118-00025639-00025783 down the cost of health care more
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00119-00025783-00025958 generally because the idea of paying for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00120-00025960-00026102 the current health care system through
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00121-00026104-00026358 medicare isn't very feasible but the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00122-00026360-00026551 point is if we're looking to get to some
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00123-00026552-00026758 sort of universal medicare program we
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00124-00026760-00026967 have to think of incremental ways to do
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00125-00026968-00027167 it free market drugs
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00126-00027168-00027439 that's another story we could have drugs
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00127-00027439-00027646 sold in a free market without patent or
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00128-00027647-00027807 related protection so they could all be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00129-00027808-00028031 cheap okay well we're not going to get
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00130-00028032-00028207 there all at once but what you could
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00131-00028208-00028487 look to do is try and do it in specific
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00132-00028488-00028727 areas so say you did for diabetes
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00133-00028727-00028918 researching new diabetes drugs
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00134-00028919-00029190 treatments or cancer drugs treatments
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00135-00029191-00029414 you may be able to get the funding it
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00136-00029416-00029567 would be that much additional funding
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00137-00029568-00029767 that would be needed to do that and then
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00138-00029768-00029911 it would offer an opportunity where you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00139-00029912-00030158 could set an example so imagine that you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00140-00030160-00030318 had a great breakthrough you had a new
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00141-00030319-00030527 cancer drug and it was selling for three
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00142-00030527-00030687 hundred dollars for a year's treatment
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00143-00030688-00030814 instead of three hundred thousand
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00144-00030816-00031007 dollars for a year treatment that would
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00145-00031008-00031199 be a great example it would show the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00146-00031200-00031487 benefits of direct public funding open
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00147-00031488-00031758 source research and generic pricing for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00148-00031760-00031967 drugs the day they came on the market so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00149-00031968-00032127 if we could do that for diabetes or we
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00150-00032127-00032270 could do that for cancer then people
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00151-00032272-00032407 will say why don't we do this for heart
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00152-00032408-00032543 disease why don't we do it for other
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00153-00032544-00032790 areas get a foot in the door
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00154-00032791-00032999 the last point along these lines price
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00155-00033000-00033215 controls on patented drugs the united
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00156-00033216-00033431 states is the only country that we on
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00157-00033432-00033590 the one hand give drug companies a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00158-00033591-00033727 monopoly people say you're interfering
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00159-00033728-00033855 with the free market no we're giving
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00160-00033856-00034046 them a monopoly and then we say you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00161-00034047-00034262 could charge whatever you want other
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00162-00034263-00034487 countries they have patents as well but
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00163-00034488-00034623 they don't tell the drug companies they
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00164-00034624-00034751 could charge whatever they want they
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00165-00034752-00034959 negotiate a price they set a price
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00166-00034960-00035151 that's a good thing to do so again it
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00167-00035152-00035351 gets people with the idea that we don't
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00168-00035352-00035543 have to pay ridiculously high prices for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00169-00035544-00035759 drugs and also it fits well with the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00170-00035760-00035918 idea of more public funding for the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00171-00035919-00036135 research because the drug companies if
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00172-00036136-00036271 they have lower prices they have less
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00173-00036272-00036439 money for research you go fine we don't
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00174-00036440-00036599 need you to pay for research we're going
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00175-00036600-00036767 to pay for the research so those are
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00176-00036768-00036983 policies that go really well together
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00177-00036984-00037159 and of course the idea of controlling
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00178-00037160-00037383 drug prices that has a lot of support
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00179-00037384-00037559 and even some bipartisan support so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00180-00037560-00037887 that's not a far out idea
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00181-00037888-00038071 okay policy is being implemented at the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00182-00038072-00038279 state or local level long history of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00183-00038280-00038511 this unemployment insurance it was
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00184-00038512-00038695 experimented with at the state level for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00185-00038696-00038871 many years before eventually it was
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00186-00038872-00039079 adopted at the federal level you had
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00187-00039080-00039295 40-hour workweek laws being passed in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00188-00039296-00039502 many states before you had the fair
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00189-00039503-00039799 labor standards act in 1937 which set up
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00190-00039800-00040046 a national policy whereas 40 hour work
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00191-00040047-00040287 week and people got overtime premium pay
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00192-00040288-00040502 if they worked more than 40 hours a week
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00193-00040503-00040679 you had minimum wage laws in many states
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00194-00040680-00040862 before you have the federal minimum wage
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00195-00040863-00041055 but currently we have many states and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00196-00041056-00041246 many cities that have raised their
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00197-00041247-00041439 minimum wages well above the national
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00198-00041440-00041623 minimum wage in some cases double the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00199-00041624-00041839 national minimum wage and again it
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00200-00041840-00042015 provides a great example that you could
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00201-00042016-00042207 have a 15 an hour minimum wage in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00202-00042208-00042487 california in new york other places and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00203-00042488-00042671 in pretty much all cases there's been a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00204-00042672-00042839 lot of research it hasn't led to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00205-00042840-00043071 large-scale unemployment so you're both
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00206-00043072-00043239 directly helping people with these
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00207-00043240-00043543 policies but also setting the example so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00208-00043544-00043702 again it's not that you know the other
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00209-00043703-00043871 states will sit down and go yeah you're
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00210-00043872-00044030 right or you know get it past the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00211-00044031-00044230 federal level but that's a very very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00212-00044231-00044446 powerful argument okay states could
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00213-00044447-00044615 lower take the lead in lowering drug
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00214-00044616-00044799 prices and and promoting free market
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00215-00044800-00045007 drugs well you have states certainly the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00216-00045008-00045279 larger ones a state like california
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00217-00045280-00045462 they could actually pay for a lot of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00218-00045463-00045743 research so to my view a big mistake and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00219-00045744-00045862 a lot of people i think are thinking
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00220-00045863-00045999 along these lines is you might have
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00221-00046000-00046223 california pay for more research and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00222-00046224-00046415 then they would let private companies
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00223-00046416-00046615 private individuals own the patents and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00224-00046616-00046783 then sell the drugs the same price as
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00225-00046784-00047046 everyone else um that would be to might
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00226-00047047-00047223 be a very bad policy because you're
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00227-00047224-00047383 basically paying them twice we've done
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00228-00047384-00047630 that sometimes but if you had a case
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00229-00047631-00047783 where california paid for the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00230-00047784-00048039 development of a cancer drug and at
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00231-00048040-00048239 least for the people in california made
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00232-00048240-00048479 it available as a cheap generic that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00233-00048480-00048679 would be really a great model for the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00234-00048680-00048783 country
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00235-00048784-00048951 and a great model for extending it even
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00236-00048952-00049118 in california
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00237-00049119-00049407 also states can lower drug prices some
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00238-00049408-00049735 states even my state of utah its public
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00239-00049736-00049990 employee health system pays people to go
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00240-00049991-00050223 to mexico to get drugs at lower prices
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00241-00050224-00050358 you wouldn't do that for every drug but
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00242-00050359-00050471 when you're talking about drugs that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00243-00050472-00050639 cost tens of thousands or even hundreds
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00244-00050640-00050855 of thousands of dollars a trip across
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00245-00050856-00051039 the border might well be worth it so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00246-00051040-00051190 these are steps that can be done at the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00247-00051191-00051463 state local level and can be great
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00248-00051464-00051654 examples they they teach people in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00249-00051655-00051870 addition to directly saving money
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00250-00051871-00052046 cities could experiment with creative
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00251-00052047-00052263 work tax credits or journalism because
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00252-00052264-00052414 again this has been a big issue with the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00253-00052415-00052638 decline of newspapers there's a lot of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00254-00052639-00052942 proposals to have tax credits or some
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00255-00052944-00053215 sort of system of subsidizing journalism
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00256-00053216-00053454 at either the state or even local level
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00257-00053455-00053711 so that's something that can be done at
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00258-00053712-00053879 a state local level doesn't require a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00259-00053879-00054071 huge amount of money but it could have a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00260-00054072-00054342 big impact in in both in increasing the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00261-00054344-00054519 availability whether it's creative work
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00262-00054520-00054694 more generally or journalism more
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00263-00054695-00054950 narrowly increasing the availability
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00264-00054951-00055150 there and setting an example for other
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00265-00055151-00055247 state
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00266-00055248-00055494 and another area states can innovate in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00267-00055495-00055647 as a corporate income tax we have an
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00268-00055648-00055807 incredibly inefficient wasteful
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00269-00055808-00056023 corporate income tax system that's not a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00270-00056024-00056230 secret it's pretty widely known that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00271-00056232-00056559 companies find massive ways to avoid or
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00272-00056560-00056711 outright evade
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00273-00056712-00056942 the the corporate income tax as it is my
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00274-00056944-00057111 proposal along these lines always been
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00275-00057112-00057342 to tax companies based on the return to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00276-00057344-00057479 shareholders because that's what they
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00277-00057479-00057623 care about at the end of the day you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00278-00057624-00057759 just have to look in the paper and you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00279-00057760-00057966 can see what the shareholders got by way
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00280-00057967-00058142 of dividends and their capital gains
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00281-00058144-00058335 over the year states could experiment
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00282-00058336-00058511 with that and again it would both be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00283-00058512-00058703 efficient beneficial to a state that had
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00284-00058704-00058854 a corporate income tax to make it as
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00285-00058855-00059119 simple as possible and it would also be
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00286-00059120-00059303 a great example for other states and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00287-00059304-00059447 ideally at some point the federal
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00288-00059448-00059703 government there are many many areas
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00289-00059704-00059919 where states and in many cases even
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00290-00059920-00060191 cities could experiment with innovative
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00291-00060191-00060438 progressive policies that offer both
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00292-00060439-00060647 immediate benefit for their residents
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00293-00060648-00060871 but also set an example for other states
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00294-00060872-00061006 and in principle at the end of the day
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00295-00061007-00061287 the federal government
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00296-00061288-00061447 private foundations have all sorts of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00297-00061448-00061606 different agendas but many are
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00298-00061607-00061815 ostensibly committed to progressive
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00299-00061816-00061999 policies advancing progressive cause
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00300-00062000-00062230 progressive equality and we should try
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00301-00062232-00062430 and take advantage of that try to get
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00302-00062432-00062623 their funding going for productive
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00303-00062624-00062887 purposes you could get the money to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00304-00062888-00063079 finance some open source drug research
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00305-00063079-00063223 at least in principle from a private
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00306-00063224-00063423 foundation because the amount of money
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00307-00063424-00063663 involved isn't necessarily massive so a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00308-00063664-00063894 few billion dollars of research for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00309-00063895-00064087 cancer a particular type of cancer
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00310-00064088-00064366 that's not in principle an undoable task
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00311-00064367-00064511 for a major foundation or set of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00312-00064512-00064782 foundations and if it were the case that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00313-00064783-00065023 their research proved successful had a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00314-00065024-00065175 new drug developed and it was an
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00315-00065176-00065391 effective treatment it sold for a few
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00316-00065391-00065559 hundred dollars rather than hundreds of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00317-00065560-00065750 thousands of dollars it would set a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00318-00065751-00066023 really powerful example so again there
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00319-00066024-00066263 are foundations that have money that are
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00320-00066264-00066487 committed to improving public health
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00321-00066488-00066759 committed to equality that's the sort of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00322-00066760-00066967 thing that in principle could have a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00323-00066968-00067175 very very big impact and i'll just
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00324-00067176-00067391 mention the the gates foundation is
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00325-00067392-00067575 going the exact opposite direction bill
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00326-00067576-00067726 gates he's not a secret he made his
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00327-00067727-00067879 money off of patent and copyright
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00328-00067880-00068071 monopolies and they've been very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00329-00068072-00068247 conscious to resist
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00330-00068248-00068438 any efforts at
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00331-00068439-00068655 open source research they're about
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00332-00068656-00068871 protecting patents and to my view
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00333-00068872-00069087 they've been a very very poor influence
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00334-00069088-00069263 in the public health arena particularly
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00335-00069264-00069526 in the developing world because of that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00336-00069527-00069782 also part of the story when we think of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00337-00069783-00069975 how private foundations could be more
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00338-00069976-00070135 effective in promoting progressive
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00339-00070136-00070287 change they could partner with state and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00340-00070288-00070503 local governments okay so i was just
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00341-00070504-00070679 talking about the idea of a creative
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00342-00070680-00070943 work tax credit or make it a journalism
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00343-00070944-00071175 tax credit again there are foundations
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00344-00071176-00071335 that are committed to supporting
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00345-00071336-00071575 journalism having more diversity of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00346-00071576-00071887 voices in in in our public debates you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00347-00071888-00072143 could have a tax credit put in place at
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00348-00072144-00072335 either the state or local level where
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00349-00072336-00072519 much of the funding came from a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00350-00072520-00072735 foundation that claims this is their
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00351-00072736-00073006 interest this is their concern so again
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00352-00073007-00073199 we're not talking about huge amounts of
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00353-00073200-00073503 money say 25 50 million that could go
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00354-00073504-00073823 very very far for providing for a tax
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00355-00073824-00073991 credit that could be put in place in a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00356-00073992-00074206 large state a mid-sized state and could
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00357-00074207-00074415 have a very big impact on the journalism
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00358-00074416-00074559 that's produced there if that's the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00359-00074560-00074767 issue we're talking about so if we need
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00360-00074768-00074999 50 million dollars to have a journalism
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00361-00075000-00075238 tax credit in illinois well if you can
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00362-00075239-00075462 get 25 million of that from a foundation
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00363-00075463-00075694 that cares about promoting journalism
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00364-00075695-00075862 then you've made it that much easier for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00365-00075863-00076079 the state of illinois to do it raise the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00366-00076080-00076367 other 25 million from tax revenue so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00367-00076368-00076559 again think how we could partner state
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00368-00076560-00076750 and local governments with private
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00369-00076751-00076935 foundations that ostensibly are
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00370-00076936-00077119 committed to the same cause the same
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00371-00077120-00077335 purpose
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00372-00077336-00077550 okay the last point thinking like a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00373-00077551-00077782 republican thinking like a conservative
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00374-00077783-00077975 the conservatives have been very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00375-00077976-00078255 effective in finding ways to get the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00376-00078256-00078487 camel's nose into the tent
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00377-00078488-00078735 and there they've been on top of things
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00378-00078736-00078943 medicare advantage i mentioned referred
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00379-00078944-00079087 to that earlier
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00380-00079088-00079343 that that was a really really big deal
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00381-00079344-00079623 that dates back to the reagan years what
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00382-00079624-00079855 they did is allow private insurers in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00383-00079856-00080111 effect into the medicare program
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00384-00080112-00080279 and it was quite deliberately designed
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00385-00080280-00080487 to undermine the program so people who
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00386-00080488-00080671 don't have major health conditions that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00387-00080672-00080782 aren't seeing all sorts of different
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00388-00080783-00081006 doctors all the time very often medicare
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00389-00081007-00081167 advantage will actually be better
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00390-00081168-00081399 program so this is the story of adverse
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00391-00081400-00081559 selection they're trying to fragment the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00392-00081560-00081767 market so rather than having everyone in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00393-00081768-00081959 the same medicare pool what they're
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00394-00081960-00082126 trying to do is say okay we're going to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00395-00082127-00082294 have an option that's more attractive
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00396-00082295-00082518 for people in good health that makes the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00397-00082519-00082718 expenses of the traditional medicare
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00398-00082719-00082991 pool that much harder to meet so you can
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00399-00082992-00083191 envision a story where enough people go
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00400-00083192-00083382 into medicare advantage that the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00401-00083383-00083567 traditional program either deteriorates
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00402-00083568-00083759 in quality or just ends up being very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00403-00083760-00084006 very expensive on a per-person basis as
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00404-00084007-00084262 it stands now close to 40 percent of new
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00405-00084263-00084487 beneficiaries opt for medicare advantage
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00406-00084488-00084703 and that's largely because it's a better
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00407-00084704-00084862 deal for many of them a lot of it is
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00408-00084863-00084991 probably because people don't really
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00409-00084992-00085150 understand the issues because who wants
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00410-00085151-00085367 to read through insurance pamphlets but
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00411-00085368-00085567 in any case they managed to get a very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00412-00085568-00085815 large share of current and new enrollees
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00413-00085816-00086031 in medicare and you could envision a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00414-00086032-00086215 point where the traditional program
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00415-00086216-00086503 really has a hard time making ends meet
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00416-00086504-00086735 401k plans you know defined benefit
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00417-00086736-00086943 contribution plans these came into
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00418-00086944-00087191 existence in in the late 70s there were
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00419-00087192-00087399 clause in the tax code that i suspect no
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00420-00087400-00087526 one in congress understood what they
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00421-00087527-00087743 were doing but in any case these have
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00422-00087744-00088023 largely eliminated traditional defined
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00423-00088024-00088238 benefit pensions so if you get back to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00424-00088239-00088479 the 70s yet around 40 percent of the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00425-00088480-00088647 workforce had a traditional defined
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00426-00088648-00088887 benefit pension those are almost gone
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00427-00088888-00089055 okay you sell them in the public sector
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00428-00089056-00089262 but in the private sector there's very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00429-00089263-00089471 few private companies that still offer a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00430-00089472-00089679 traditional defined benefit pension a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00431-00089680-00089855 lot of people are 401ks and of course
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00432-00089856-00090047 that's a lot better than nothing but for
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00433-00090048-00090215 most people they would almost certainly
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00434-00090216-00090438 prefer saying okay i'm getting a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00435-00090439-00090606 thousand fifteen hundred two thousand a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00436-00090607-00090726 month from my pension i'm gonna have
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00437-00090727-00090918 that as long as i live as opposed to a
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00438-00090919-00091143 401k plan that oftentimes people don't
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00439-00091144-00091318 put enough money in they often have high
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00440-00091319-00091575 expenses and again those don't typically
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00441-00091576-00091799 give you an annuity that guarantees you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00442-00091800-00092031 money through your lifetime so if you
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00443-00092032-00092191 happen to live a very long life which
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00444-00092192-00092367 most of us probably want to do you might
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00445-00092368-00092550 find that the money in your 401k is run
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00446-00092551-00092823 out 10 15 20 years before you die so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00447-00092824-00093023 defined benefit pension plans have a lot
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00448-00093024-00093311 of advantage but for companies 401ks are
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00449-00093312-00093471 much easier they don't carry the same
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00450-00093472-00093662 risk basically they dump it off on their
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00451-00093663-00093887 workers so from the standpoint of people
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00452-00093888-00094055 who don't like to find benefit pension
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00453-00094056-00094215 plans they'd rather have workers take
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00454-00094216-00094431 the risk than the company 401ks were
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00455-00094432-00094631 really great and they were very very
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00456-00094632-00094879 successful but i give the conservatives
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00457-00094880-00095126 a lot of credit for designing ways in
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00458-00095127-00095318 which they could undermine
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00459-00095319-00095494 very good programs
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00460-00095495-00095711 piecemeal and never have to confront
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00461-00095712-00096031 them head on and as i say they thought
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00462-00096032-00096271 that way we should think that way
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00463-00096272-00096543 one way to reverse the their movement
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00464-00096544-00096767 into the to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00465-00096768-00097111 uh iras give low-cost public plans okay
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00466-00097112-00097271 and a number of states have taken steps
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00467-00097272-00097438 in this direction so you could take
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00468-00097439-00097623 advantage of the fact that the states
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00469-00097624-00097831 already have public employee retirement
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00470-00097832-00098118 plans piggyback on those and offer the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00471-00098119-00098343 people working for private employers the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00472-00098344-00098574 option to to join those plans and pay
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00473-00098575-00098806 much lower administrative costs than
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00474-00098807-00099047 workers currently pay with a 401k or an
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00475-00099048-00099303 ira you could also offer annuities which
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00476-00099304-00099494 you don't generally have with a 401k or
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00477-00099495-00099679 ira so that's an option could be done at
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00478-00099680-00099894 the state level and as i say several
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00479-00099895-00100150 states have looked to do that public
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00480-00100151-00100335 option medicare plan again i mentioned
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00481-00100336-00100591 that earlier same sort of story so if
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00482-00100592-00100743 you say oh you know we don't want to get
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00483-00100744-00100903 rid of private insurance we just want to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00484-00100904-00101135 give people an option give them a choice
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00485-00101136-00101271 okay we could adopt their same
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00486-00101272-00101511 terminology and use it to undermine
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00487-00101512-00101711 private insurers rather than having them
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00488-00101712-00101879 use private insurers to undermine
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00489-00101880-00102174 medicare okay last point just basic
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00490-00102175-00102374 principles markets a tool we should
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00491-00102375-00102551 think of the market like the wheel it
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00492-00102552-00102758 doesn't make sense to say the wheel is
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00493-00102759-00102927 bad you know people could be run over by
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00494-00102928-00103142 a car and that's bad but the wheel isn't
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00495-00103143-00103454 bad okay so what we have to do is figure
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00496-00103455-00103702 out how the market works how we could
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00497-00103703-00103886 structure it to bring about outcomes
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00498-00103888-00104127 that we like okay the rich have done
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00499-00104128-00104318 that okay they structure the market to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00500-00104319-00104542 benefit themselves we have to flip that
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00501-00104543-00104766 around and structure a market so that it
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00502-00104767-00104975 leads to greater equality
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00503-00104976-00105158 same story with corporations okay
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00504-00105159-00105334 corporations exist to make money so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00505-00105335-00105463 sometimes people talk about greedy
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00506-00105464-00105590 corporations i think that's almost
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00507-00105591-00105727 definitional that's why the
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00508-00105728-00105886 corporation's there it's there to make
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00509-00105888-00106166 money okay so that's not a secret and
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00510-00106167-00106399 again is that good is that bad well it's
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00511-00106400-00106599 our job to make sure that they make
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00512-00106600-00106847 money in productive ways so they can
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00513-00106848-00107039 make money producing clean energy to my
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00514-00107040-00107207 view that's a good thing they can make
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00515-00107208-00107390 money producing good affordable housing
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00516-00107391-00107599 to my view that's a good thing it's our
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00517-00107600-00107783 job to make sure that the ways in which
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00518-00107783-00108086 they make money are serving social lands
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00519-00108088-00108286 we don't do a very good job of that now
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00520-00108288-00108463 you're welcome to not like corporations
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00521-00108464-00108639 but they're there to make money so
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00522-00108640-00108790 saying that they make money they're
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00523-00108791-00108958 profitable they're greedy
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00524-00108959-00109151 that's aside the point of course they do
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00525-00109152-00109375 again just we have to think seriously
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00526-00109376-00109590 think critically about what the market
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00527-00109591-00109823 is what the institutions are and try to
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00528-00109824-00110054 structure them to serve progressive ends
xkjYXcwE1qQ-00529-00110055-00110500 rather than currently serving
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xk_Ey5y04mU-00035-00049336-00049479 okay
xk_Ey5y04mU-00036-00049480-00049735 and tell me what's wrong and why you
xk_Ey5y04mU-00037-00049736-00050062 never said you felt that way
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xk_Ey5y04mU-00058-00056160-00056238 okay
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xk_Ey5y04mU-00066-00058136-00058463 never said you felt that way
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xm_evGP0NC4-00000-00000008-00000279 hi everybody how you doing welcome why
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xm_evGP0NC4-00002-00000512-00000759 it doesn't even look that great stop
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xm_evGP0NC4-00011-00003392-00003519 katagawa
xm_evGP0NC4-00012-00003520-00003815 the name sounds familiar but the course
xm_evGP0NC4-00013-00003815-00003935 does not
xm_evGP0NC4-00014-00003936-00004103 come to mind and we'll just start with a
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xm_evGP0NC4-00016-00004368-00004695 stroke begin game broke stroke
xm_evGP0NC4-00017-00004696-00004991 hi who are you a golfer i don't know any
xm_evGP0NC4-00018-00004992-00005095 golfers
xm_evGP0NC4-00019-00005096-00005431 aside from like tiger woods and uh
xm_evGP0NC4-00020-00005432-00005743 uh andrew palmer arnold park
xm_evGP0NC4-00021-00005744-00006191 arnold palmer the guy whose greatest
xm_evGP0NC4-00022-00006192-00006486 contribution to society was not his long
xm_evGP0NC4-00023-00006487-00006767 and storied and amazing golf career
xm_evGP0NC4-00024-00006768-00007655 nobody knows him for that it was
xm_evGP0NC4-00025-00007656-00007967 why does this look so blurry
xm_evGP0NC4-00026-00007968-00008335 i'm not stupid right this looks really
xm_evGP0NC4-00027-00008336-00008559 weird oh because normally i play this at
xm_evGP0NC4-00028-00008560-00008703 4k that's why
xm_evGP0NC4-00029-00008704-00009023 ah there we go
xm_evGP0NC4-00030-00009024-00009214 now we can see the suckiness of our
xm_evGP0NC4-00031-00009215-00009374 golfing and greater clarity
xm_evGP0NC4-00032-00009375-00009551 now i just have to remember how to play
xm_evGP0NC4-00033-00009552-00009999 golf how to play it's been a while
xm_evGP0NC4-00034-00010000-00010246 oof oh that could have been better
xm_evGP0NC4-00035-00010247-00010503 fairway off the tee here
xm_evGP0NC4-00036-00010504-00010967 hi steve my good friend steve
xm_evGP0NC4-00037-00010968-00011295 why is his mouse in line because you
xm_evGP0NC4-00038-00011296-00011814 left it there you stupid sonic brick
xm_evGP0NC4-00039-00011815-00012214 did you just call me a brick sure
xm_evGP0NC4-00040-00012215-00012535 i liked it when it was like the one song
xm_evGP0NC4-00041-00012536-00012710 from like up or whatever
xm_evGP0NC4-00042-00012711-00012894 just started playing was like we're
xm_evGP0NC4-00043-00012895-00013086 playing we this is
xm_evGP0NC4-00044-00013087-00013399 all we're listening to for the rest of
xm_evGP0NC4-00045-00013400-00013486 our golfing
xm_evGP0NC4-00046-00013487-00013958 today because it is too
xm_evGP0NC4-00047-00013959-00014838 perfect
xm_evGP0NC4-00048-00014840-00015183 wow can we turn him off
xm_evGP0NC4-00049-00015184-00015486 we don't we don't need your help sir
xm_evGP0NC4-00050-00015487-00015775 this course isn't fun this is just a
xm_evGP0NC4-00051-00015776-00016143 really honking huge mini golf course
xm_evGP0NC4-00052-00016144-00016279 except not even that because there's no
xm_evGP0NC4-00053-00016280-00016711 like windmills you can accidentally hit
xm_evGP0NC4-00054-00016712-00016927 that was a trash shot that wasn't too
xm_evGP0NC4-00055-00016928-00017055 bad you're just a little bit off
xm_evGP0NC4-00056-00017056-00017215 a trash shot is like when it ends up
xm_evGP0NC4-00057-00017216-00017375 pointing the wrong direction
xm_evGP0NC4-00058-00017376-00018283 or could just go in you sack of
xm_evGP0NC4-00059-00018284-00018399 yay
xm_evGP0NC4-00060-00018400-00018719 your what
xm_evGP0NC4-00061-00018720-00019047 what you said i'm gonna sound like you
xm_evGP0NC4-00062-00019048-00019079 said
xm_evGP0NC4-00063-00019080-00019479 bernie everyone knows that bernie
xm_evGP0NC4-00064-00019480-00019855 sanders is the ultimate golfer
xm_evGP0NC4-00065-00019856-00020063 i am asking you once again to get in
xm_evGP0NC4-00066-00020064-00020407 your home
xm_evGP0NC4-00067-00020408-00020767 all right let's see again
xm_evGP0NC4-00068-00020768-00021399 that was more mario than bernie sanders
xm_evGP0NC4-00069-00021400-00021830 still not great i'm too far to the right
xm_evGP0NC4-00070-00021831-00022222 plunk it's only they're just a sinkhole
xm_evGP0NC4-00071-00022223-00022486 and you're in a surprise sand trap
xm_evGP0NC4-00072-00022487-00022671 the canadian flag is one of my favorite
xm_evGP0NC4-00073-00022672-00022878 flags it's well designed
xm_evGP0NC4-00074-00022879-00023086 it's simplistic but it still manages to
xm_evGP0NC4-00075-00023087-00023327 have it's not a symbol of importance on
xm_evGP0NC4-00076-00023328-00023375 it
xm_evGP0NC4-00077-00023376-00023558 it doesn't look like somebody just
xm_evGP0NC4-00078-00023559-00023678 copied and pasted
xm_evGP0NC4-00079-00023679-00024047 a gif from the internet onto a blank
xm_evGP0NC4-00080-00024048-00024335 rectangle there are some absolute what
xm_evGP0NC4-00081-00024336-00024775 uh turkmenistan just has a rug on it
xm_evGP0NC4-00082-00024776-00026190 i think it's turkmenistan
xm_evGP0NC4-00083-00026191-00026367 does it look super blurry to you guys or
xm_evGP0NC4-00084-00026368-00026583 is it just our tv
xm_evGP0NC4-00085-00026583-00026935 yep
xm_evGP0NC4-00086-00026936-00027239 that that had fun right at the end there
xm_evGP0NC4-00087-00027239-00027390 the golf club i didn't have a tight
xm_evGP0NC4-00088-00027391-00027599 enough grip and the club just
xm_evGP0NC4-00089-00027600-00027958 spun out at the end after i hit the ball
xm_evGP0NC4-00090-00027960-00028102 like that's the kind of thing where i
xm_evGP0NC4-00091-00028104-00028383 would i would want to learn how to golf
xm_evGP0NC4-00092-00028383-00028574 like that on purpose
xm_evGP0NC4-00093-00028575-00028814 but still be good like it's a little
xm_evGP0NC4-00094-00028816-00028951 trick thing where i hit the ball
xm_evGP0NC4-00095-00028952-00029143 properly but then on my swing
xm_evGP0NC4-00096-00029144-00029558 i just let it spin in my hand
xm_evGP0NC4-00097-00029560-00029999 call for the hockey stick
xm_evGP0NC4-00098-00030000-00030190 if this goes in the hole i am going to
xm_evGP0NC4-00099-00030191-00030446 actually kill you
xm_evGP0NC4-00100-00030447-00031446 or no no
xm_evGP0NC4-00101-00031447-00031639 why did you look so grumpy you almost
xm_evGP0NC4-00102-00031639-00031774 got another freaking eagle
xm_evGP0NC4-00103-00031775-00032283 because i didn't get a freaking gold did
xm_evGP0NC4-00104-00032283-00032399 i
xm_evGP0NC4-00105-00032400-00032575 oh
xm_evGP0NC4-00106-00032576-00033174 [Laughter]
xm_evGP0NC4-00107-00033175-00033495 yikes
xm_evGP0NC4-00108-00033496-00033902 no too far to the left okay
xm_evGP0NC4-00109-00033903-00034359 uh rolls away to sadness town
xm_evGP0NC4-00110-00034360-00034583 this is this is the part of a normal
xm_evGP0NC4-00111-00034584-00034671 golf game
xm_evGP0NC4-00112-00034672-00034887 from you know with it where you get out
xm_evGP0NC4-00113-00034888-00035127 your gps and the satellite tells you
xm_evGP0NC4-00114-00035128-00035335 where to aim
xm_evGP0NC4-00115-00035336-00035655 i think you might be boned this is a
xm_evGP0NC4-00116-00035656-00036102 long long long putt
xm_evGP0NC4-00117-00036103-00036407 especially when i do that
xm_evGP0NC4-00118-00036408-00036662 ah that's okay if you picked up a little
xm_evGP0NC4-00119-00036663-00036879 more you might have gotten it in
xm_evGP0NC4-00120-00036880-00037223 here to the right and
xm_evGP0NC4-00121-00037224-00037518 there we go get in there see my short
xm_evGP0NC4-00122-00037519-00037702 game has always been really good it's
xm_evGP0NC4-00123-00037703-00037783 the
xm_evGP0NC4-00124-00037784-00038215 it's the long game that kills me
xm_evGP0NC4-00125-00038216-00038735 okay here we go line up and
xm_evGP0NC4-00126-00038736-00039102 there we go not bad i'll take it
xm_evGP0NC4-00127-00039103-00039423 can't be bad can't be bad it was bad
xm_evGP0NC4-00128-00039424-00039766 it was bad there go stop being bad stop
xm_evGP0NC4-00129-00039767-00040167 [Laughter]
xm_evGP0NC4-00130-00040168-00040559 no i don't know what i'm gonna do
xm_evGP0NC4-00131-00040560-00041023 oh those trees
xm_evGP0NC4-00132-00041024-00041271 should be from appropriate tense music
xm_evGP0NC4-00133-00041272-00042083 starts
xm_evGP0NC4-00134-00042084-00042262 yay
xm_evGP0NC4-00135-00042263-00042574 now i'm i could have made that
xm_evGP0NC4-00136-00042575-00042830 i expect some pog champs in chat if i
xm_evGP0NC4-00137-00042831-00042895 get this
xm_evGP0NC4-00138-00042896-00043335 on the green at all
xm_evGP0NC4-00139-00043336-00043671 not too bad get in there get on that
xm_evGP0NC4-00140-00043672-00043767 green
xm_evGP0NC4-00141-00043768-00044215 yeah blowing against me
xm_evGP0NC4-00142-00044216-00044455 half a pog this is a positive vibe
xm_evGP0NC4-00143-00044456-00044599 streams you gotta be positive
xm_evGP0NC4-00144-00044600-00045023 or will ban you
xm_evGP0NC4-00145-00045024-00045183 not a bad shot don't forget you can give
xm_evGP0NC4-00146-00045184-00045446 yourself like backspin
xm_evGP0NC4-00147-00045447-00045718 so that like you can drop you can
xm_evGP0NC4-00148-00045719-00045767 prevent
xm_evGP0NC4-00149-00045768-00046055 roll i just gotta make it over the trees
xm_evGP0NC4-00150-00046056-00046895 right yeah
xm_evGP0NC4-00151-00046896-00047118 and now i'm on the fairway what a shot
xm_evGP0NC4-00152-00047119-00047358 my god says the announcers he's a rebel
xm_evGP0NC4-00153-00047359-00047479 without a cause
xm_evGP0NC4-00154-00047480-00047799 is the rebel without the brain
xm_evGP0NC4-00155-00047800-00048030 all right billingsley put the ball in
xm_evGP0NC4-00156-00048031-00048143 the hole
xm_evGP0NC4-00157-00048144-00048518 oh dear wow that's a lot of uh that is
xm_evGP0NC4-00158-00048519-00048751 i choose a medicine ball for the
xm_evGP0NC4-00159-00048752-00048902 opposite
xm_evGP0NC4-00160-00048903-00049279 oh no oh
xm_evGP0NC4-00161-00049280-00049679 yep oh look at that shot um
xm_evGP0NC4-00162-00049680-00049927 straight as powerstone says what do you
xm_evGP0NC4-00163-00049928-00050071 call a half thinking piano
xm_evGP0NC4-00164-00050072-00050383 a yamaha
xm_evGP0NC4-00165-00050384-00050583 please somebody time them out quick can
xm_evGP0NC4-00166-00050584-00051311 we just ban chat
xm_evGP0NC4-00167-00051312-00051463 this camera angle that is completely
xm_evGP0NC4-00168-00051464-00051607 unhelpful doesn't let me know where my
xm_evGP0NC4-00169-00051608-00051830 ball is going
xm_evGP0NC4-00170-00051832-00052038 i feel every man should know where their
xm_evGP0NC4-00171-00052039-00052175 balls are going
xm_evGP0NC4-00172-00052176-00052479 biggest wood i have
xm_evGP0NC4-00173-00052479-00052799 emergency ems
xm_evGP0NC4-00174-00052800-00053079 i emergency alert i got no place to plug
xm_evGP0NC4-00175-00053079-00053775 in my thingy
xm_evGP0NC4-00176-00053776-00054111 don't bounce in weird ways just get on
xm_evGP0NC4-00177-00054112-00054238 the green
xm_evGP0NC4-00178-00054239-00054711 yay now i can flex my long putt skills
xm_evGP0NC4-00179-00054712-00054815 as i would like you guys to take a
xm_evGP0NC4-00180-00054816-00055015 moment to appreciate our delightful
xm_evGP0NC4-00181-00055016-00055326 christmas sweaters
xm_evGP0NC4-00182-00055327-00055663 that we're wearing in the blazing sun
xm_evGP0NC4-00183-00055664-00055919 really it's so bright like the sun right
xm_evGP0NC4-00184-00055920-00056094 in here mrs pop
xm_evGP0NC4-00185-00056095-00056719 hold on wait
xm_evGP0NC4-00186-00056720-00057063 yay oh i forgot to announce our game in
xm_evGP0NC4-00187-00057064-00057261 the wildebend no
xm_evGP0NC4-00188-00057262-00057487 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00189-00057488-00057687 dude that is that's a that is a truly
xm_evGP0NC4-00190-00057688-00057879 epic putt professional golfers would be
xm_evGP0NC4-00191-00057879-00058015 happy with that putt
xm_evGP0NC4-00192-00058016-00058230 yeah well professional golfers are
xm_evGP0NC4-00193-00058232-00058326 slumps
xm_evGP0NC4-00194-00058327-00058703 jesus so what you want to do is you want
xm_evGP0NC4-00195-00058704-00058726 to
xm_evGP0NC4-00196-00058727-00059271 aim for like the clubhouse
xm_evGP0NC4-00197-00059272-00059460 there we go what a pun
xm_evGP0NC4-00198-00059461-00059623 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00199-00059624-00060119 what a putt oh baby
xm_evGP0NC4-00200-00060120-00060406 should have been more right yep that's a
xm_evGP0NC4-00201-00060407-00060575 phrase that i will never utter in any
xm_evGP0NC4-00202-00060576-00060775 other context
xm_evGP0NC4-00203-00060776-00061103 yeah see if i had turned on my handicap
xm_evGP0NC4-00204-00061104-00061447 i would be 18 holes so i'd be 18 strokes
xm_evGP0NC4-00205-00061448-00061630 behind you right now
xm_evGP0NC4-00206-00061632-00061830 the only way for me to win at that point
xm_evGP0NC4-00207-00061832-00062247 would be to club your win
xm_evGP0NC4-00208-00062248-00062559 i'd win
xm_evGP0NC4-00209-00062560-00062950 you can't stop taylor made
xm_evGP0NC4-00210-00062951-00063230 cue the hilarious ragdoll physics this
xm_evGP0NC4-00211-00063232-00063279 murder
xm_evGP0NC4-00212-00063279-00063663 club this murder is brought to you
xm_evGP0NC4-00213-00063664-00064023 by brainstorm for bridgestone regrets
xm_evGP0NC4-00214-00064024-00064311 ever getting involved in golf
xm_evGP0NC4-00215-00064312-00064535 boy that's a segment of sesame street
xm_evGP0NC4-00216-00064536-00064838 that didn't live long
xm_evGP0NC4-00217-00064839-00065038 its murder is brought to you by the
xm_evGP0NC4-00218-00065039-00065326 letter w
xm_evGP0NC4-00219-00065327-00065494 okay can we just take a moment to go
xm_evGP0NC4-00220-00065495-00065882 back and look at your character
xm_evGP0NC4-00221-00065883-00066175 okay for all of the
xm_evGP0NC4-00222-00066176-00066503 effort and time and money
xm_evGP0NC4-00223-00066504-00066726 and that they poured into making this
xm_evGP0NC4-00224-00066727-00066959 character
xm_evGP0NC4-00225-00066960-00067215 and for all of like the settings are all
xm_evGP0NC4-00226-00067216-00067399 on maximum so you know this is pushing
xm_evGP0NC4-00227-00067400-00067719 my computer his hair still
xm_evGP0NC4-00228-00067720-00068047 looks like it's made of play-doh so why
xm_evGP0NC4-00229-00068048-00068382 are they bothering just make just put on
xm_evGP0NC4-00230-00068383-00068679 a solid hair
xm_evGP0NC4-00231-00068680-00068815 did you know two by fours are not
xm_evGP0NC4-00232-00068816-00069511 actually two by four
xm_evGP0NC4-00233-00069512-00069655 they're one and a half by two and a half
xm_evGP0NC4-00234-00069656-00069879 or by they're they're one and a half by
xm_evGP0NC4-00235-00069880-00070031 three and a half
xm_evGP0NC4-00236-00070032-00070350 and why is it called a 2x4 i hope you
xm_evGP0NC4-00237-00070351-00070406 enjoy
xm_evGP0NC4-00238-00070407-00070919 visiting beautiful bank or maine
xm_evGP0NC4-00239-00070920-00071375 oh no are we golfing over a river
xm_evGP0NC4-00240-00071376-00071743 there it is the consumer of
xm_evGP0NC4-00241-00071744-00072287 balls
xm_evGP0NC4-00242-00072288-00072582 we named this river liberace for it eats
xm_evGP0NC4-00243-00072583-00072887 balls
xm_evGP0NC4-00244-00072888-00073511 yeah 95.
xm_evGP0NC4-00245-00073512-00073943 but i hold ass on that ball why 95
xm_evGP0NC4-00246-00073944-00074282 because you clearly didn't haul enough
xm_evGP0NC4-00247-00074283-00075682 pass
xm_evGP0NC4-00248-00075683-00076543 scoop that shot too much in high school
xm_evGP0NC4-00249-00076544-00076791 that's rough i swear to god we're
xm_evGP0NC4-00250-00076792-00076926 putting on different
xm_evGP0NC4-00251-00076927-00077182 courses because we're you put it on it's
xm_evGP0NC4-00252-00077183-00077350 like oh there's nothing going on on this
xm_evGP0NC4-00253-00077351-00077391 green
xm_evGP0NC4-00254-00077392-00077567 and then where i was putting from the
xm_evGP0NC4-00255-00077568-00077815 entire hole was surrounded by missile
xm_evGP0NC4-00256-00077816-00078006 launchers
xm_evGP0NC4-00257-00078007-00078335 i get an eagle in that hole yes
xm_evGP0NC4-00258-00078336-00078582 complaining ass bastard [__] i'm not
xm_evGP0NC4-00259-00078583-00078679 complaining
xm_evGP0NC4-00260-00078680-00078831 you complained at the very beginning i
xm_evGP0NC4-00261-00078832-00078982 got an eagle i'm like yeah you got me
xm_evGP0NC4-00262-00078983-00079055 going you're like
xm_evGP0NC4-00263-00079056-00079375 you [__] of babel
xm_evGP0NC4-00264-00079376-00079703 said no such thing
xm_evGP0NC4-00265-00079704-00079894 you're putting words in my mouth i
xm_evGP0NC4-00266-00079895-00080231 resemble that comment
xm_evGP0NC4-00267-00080232-00080462 why are you just going for the i've
xm_evGP0NC4-00268-00080463-00080687 given up on proper golfing
xm_evGP0NC4-00269-00080688-00080982 so i'm taking random shots between
xm_evGP0NC4-00270-00080983-00081103 french fries
xm_evGP0NC4-00271-00081104-00081255 i'm not taking random shots i'm doing
xm_evGP0NC4-00272-00081256-00081406 the golfing
xm_evGP0NC4-00273-00081407-00081599 i hooked it so that i'd roll on the
xm_evGP0NC4-00274-00081600-00082071 green in the direction of the green
xm_evGP0NC4-00275-00082072-00082406 away that was
xm_evGP0NC4-00276-00082407-00082711 shanky what am i looking at here you're
xm_evGP0NC4-00277-00082712-00083055 looking at your ball
xm_evGP0NC4-00278-00083056-00083367 and i like rough that's not that's not
xm_evGP0NC4-00279-00083368-00083726 bad
xm_evGP0NC4-00280-00083727-00084055 yahoo okay that wasn't terrible but
xm_evGP0NC4-00281-00084056-00084343 it wasn't great either that's not that's
xm_evGP0NC4-00282-00084344-00084479 not getting old no stay
xm_evGP0NC4-00283-00084480-00085231 tuned yikes
xm_evGP0NC4-00284-00085232-00085655 hello friend hi the hills are alive
xm_evGP0NC4-00285-00085656-00086038 with the sound of favors
xm_evGP0NC4-00286-00086039-00086303 what kind of favorite not the ones
xm_evGP0NC4-00287-00086304-00086415 you're thinking of
xm_evGP0NC4-00288-00086416-00086887 yeah yeah it was not centered
xm_evGP0NC4-00289-00086888-00087438 that was the chair
xm_evGP0NC4-00290-00087439-00087750 you need to reign in your ass
xm_evGP0NC4-00291-00087751-00088087 i can't my ass is powerful you can't
xm_evGP0NC4-00292-00088088-00088343 stop my ass
xm_evGP0NC4-00293-00088344-00088711 oh god oh god no oh no
xm_evGP0NC4-00294-00088712-00088982 no no no no please forgot to say keep
xm_evGP0NC4-00295-00088983-00089231 going
xm_evGP0NC4-00296-00089232-00089382 and then the hill's going to curve it
xm_evGP0NC4-00297-00089383-00089599 hard there's going to be
xm_evGP0NC4-00298-00089600-00089799 there's going to be some pot right here
xm_evGP0NC4-00299-00089800-00090015 oh boy
xm_evGP0NC4-00300-00090016-00090262 gonna be the most epic of putts if i
xm_evGP0NC4-00301-00090263-00090318 make this
xm_evGP0NC4-00302-00090319-00090694 in tire woods is gonna be off
xm_evGP0NC4-00303-00090695-00090847 i think it would have anywhere that's
xm_evGP0NC4-00304-00090848-00091167 the bet
xm_evGP0NC4-00305-00091168-00091591 what curving it the wrong way
xm_evGP0NC4-00306-00091592-00091862 there you go i just i see some buildings
xm_evGP0NC4-00307-00091863-00092006 over there and i'm compelled
xm_evGP0NC4-00308-00092007-00092550 to put the ball into them
xm_evGP0NC4-00309-00092551-00092831 get in the hole in your home get in your
xm_evGP0NC4-00310-00092832-00093135 home
xm_evGP0NC4-00311-00093136-00093406 that was almost the most epic of pots i
xm_evGP0NC4-00312-00093407-00093479 almost
xm_evGP0NC4-00313-00093480-00093943 had a sweet cake
xm_evGP0NC4-00314-00093944-00094415 oh
xm_evGP0NC4-00315-00094416-00095638 man always you curve to the right
xm_evGP0NC4-00316-00095639-00095791 here see there was an animation i can
xm_evGP0NC4-00317-00095792-00096126 get behind
xm_evGP0NC4-00318-00096127-00096311 see what happened to all the curve when
xm_evGP0NC4-00319-00096312-00096447 i was putting it
xm_evGP0NC4-00320-00096448-00097023 everything around the hole was like
xm_evGP0NC4-00321-00097024-00097271 that park can take a short hike and jump
xm_evGP0NC4-00322-00097272-00097447 up my ass
xm_evGP0NC4-00323-00097448-00097943 if i hit right here i'll go straight
xm_evGP0NC4-00324-00097944-00098079 not with that thing not with that
xm_evGP0NC4-00325-00098080-00098343 comment about tiger woods you ain't
xm_evGP0NC4-00326-00098344-00098718 do or die it's a status on the reels
xm_evGP0NC4-00327-00098719-00099482 um
xm_evGP0NC4-00328-00099483-00099815 flock
xm_evGP0NC4-00329-00099816-00100094 you're a real strong bed you're a strong
xm_evGP0NC4-00330-00100095-00100287 man why does my girlfriend say she's not
xm_evGP0NC4-00331-00100288-00100574 as interested in our love life anymore
xm_evGP0NC4-00332-00100575-00100774 well powerstone that's simply because
xm_evGP0NC4-00333-00100775-00101062 you're not me
xm_evGP0NC4-00334-00101063-00101294 i highly suggest the making of yourself
xm_evGP0NC4-00335-00101295-00101606 to be more like me
xm_evGP0NC4-00336-00101607-00101991 you if you got a nice curved shot
xm_evGP0NC4-00337-00101992-00102255 you could potentially bounce that onto
xm_evGP0NC4-00338-00102256-00104599 the green
xm_evGP0NC4-00339-00104600-00104751 why is this game so graphically
xm_evGP0NC4-00340-00104752-00104975 demanding it doesn't even look that
xm_evGP0NC4-00341-00104976-00105143 great
xm_evGP0NC4-00342-00105144-00105942 good enough yeet
xm_evGP0NC4-00343-00105943-00106247 [Laughter]
xm_evGP0NC4-00344-00106248-00106519 i say blizzarington it seems as though
xm_evGP0NC4-00345-00106520-00106815 you've stopped giving it touch
xm_evGP0NC4-00346-00106816-00107239 are you feeling all right
xm_evGP0NC4-00347-00107240-00107486 am i sure you're just gonna be like oh
xm_evGP0NC4-00348-00107488-00108134 good to see you again
xm_evGP0NC4-00349-00108135-00108471 smith
xm_evGP0NC4-00350-00108472-00108919 uh sure pew
xm_evGP0NC4-00351-00108920-00109502 oof oh no yikes foreign
xm_evGP0NC4-00352-00109503-00109758 wow that was a nasty did you have
xm_evGP0NC4-00353-00109759-00109958 headwind on that is that what happened
xm_evGP0NC4-00354-00109959-00110343 no or did you just did you just sneeze
xm_evGP0NC4-00355-00110344-00110502 and you
xm_evGP0NC4-00356-00110503-00110683 drew a little ampersand with your
xm_evGP0NC4-00357-00110683-00110831 joystick
xm_evGP0NC4-00358-00110832-00111166 it's playable it's no
xm_evGP0NC4-00359-00111167-00111358 now we're getting into now we're getting
xm_evGP0NC4-00360-00111359-00111519 into turn the eagle into
xm_evGP0NC4-00361-00111520-00111910 bogey territory hey i have to just
xm_evGP0NC4-00362-00111911-00112231 cut out of a sand trap so shut your
xm_evGP0NC4-00363-00112232-00112431 i've converted more sand traps into
xm_evGP0NC4-00364-00112432-00112671 eagles and i have converted long greens
xm_evGP0NC4-00365-00112672-00112919 into well it sounds like you're long
xm_evGP0NC4-00366-00112920-00113095 putt games trash and you should uh
xm_evGP0NC4-00367-00113096-00113607 long putts are hard so is your mother
xm_evGP0NC4-00368-00113608-00114031 she's a heart get it on the green
xm_evGP0NC4-00369-00114032-00114334 so i think that means the last minute i
xm_evGP0NC4-00370-00114335-00114631 got ahead of you by one stroke what kind
xm_evGP0NC4-00371-00114632-00114799 of stupid filter system doesn't let you
xm_evGP0NC4-00372-00114800-00115071 filter by more than one thing
xm_evGP0NC4-00373-00115072-00115534 good luck oh yeah 420 all-day course
xm_evGP0NC4-00374-00115535-00115823 oh yeah 420 blaze it let's go we know
xm_evGP0NC4-00375-00115824-00115975 what we're playing
xm_evGP0NC4-00376-00115976-00116399 there it is golf straight into it
xm_evGP0NC4-00377-00116400-00116695 what is that first funny made out of
xm_evGP0NC4-00378-00116696-00116886 where am i going
xm_evGP0NC4-00379-00116888-00117423 there there's no deep rough here
xm_evGP0NC4-00380-00117424-00117678 somebody just wiggled their mouse around
xm_evGP0NC4-00381-00117679-00117831 on the terrain editor
xm_evGP0NC4-00382-00117832-00118390 is what happened here
xm_evGP0NC4-00383-00118391-00118727 go go off go off go off
xm_evGP0NC4-00384-00118728-00119151 go off go up
xm_evGP0NC4-00385-00119152-00119358 i can't do that without my new glasses
xm_evGP0NC4-00386-00119359-00119527 that are coming in next year
xm_evGP0NC4-00387-00119528-00119919 yep that's a dead green my friend
xm_evGP0NC4-00388-00119920-00120166 this is the deadest green this green is
xm_evGP0NC4-00389-00120167-00120607 this green is deader than red green
xm_evGP0NC4-00390-00120608-00120854 how long has he been dead is it too soon
xm_evGP0NC4-00391-00120855-00121095 is he still alive
xm_evGP0NC4-00392-00121096-00121390 he might still be a person who exists
xm_evGP0NC4-00393-00121391-00121543 like the first joke was
xm_evGP0NC4-00394-00121544-00121710 a little tasteless but it was okay but
xm_evGP0NC4-00395-00121711-00121943 then i just kept digging myself up the
xm_evGP0NC4-00396-00121944-00122119 hole
xm_evGP0NC4-00397-00122120-00122519 no the hell of doom
xm_evGP0NC4-00398-00122520-00123190 you vile postulate sack of disease
xm_evGP0NC4-00399-00123191-00123678 i'm trying adhesive medical strips
xm_evGP0NC4-00400-00123679-00123958 oh and you can go to canada and you can
xm_evGP0NC4-00401-00123959-00124039 learn all about
xm_evGP0NC4-00402-00124040-00124683 your boot oh
xm_evGP0NC4-00403-00124683-00124854 jesus
xm_evGP0NC4-00404-00124855-00125158 wow
xm_evGP0NC4-00405-00125159-00125527 so why do you look so nonplussed you
xm_evGP0NC4-00406-00125528-00125607 just
xm_evGP0NC4-00407-00125608-00125871 you put a ball in like like you like
xm_evGP0NC4-00408-00125872-00126039 somebody came out and held their hands
xm_evGP0NC4-00409-00126040-00126223 and said please sir can i have some more
xm_evGP0NC4-00410-00126224-00126566 and you put a golf ball in it
xm_evGP0NC4-00411-00126567-00126758 and then i bathroom where the head is
xm_evGP0NC4-00412-00126759-00127110 like this
xm_evGP0NC4-00413-00127111-00127486 think i can putt from here yes
xm_evGP0NC4-00414-00127488-00127639 what we have learned is that you can
xm_evGP0NC4-00415-00127640-00127910 feel like
xm_evGP0NC4-00416-00127911-00128143 you could be like doing kick flips and
xm_evGP0NC4-00417-00128144-00128407 pop shut it
xm_evGP0NC4-00418-00128408-00128534 speaking of which i kind of want to get
xm_evGP0NC4-00419-00128535-00128783 that new skate uh it's like skater xl or
xm_evGP0NC4-00420-00128783-00128927 something like that
xm_evGP0NC4-00421-00128928-00129199 okay learning how to do decently and
xm_evGP0NC4-00422-00129200-00129395 skate was hard enough
xm_evGP0NC4-00423-00129396-00129590 [Laughter]
xm_evGP0NC4-00424-00129591-00129814 but now they're like controlling your
xm_evGP0NC4-00425-00129815-00129966 feet differently i'm like this is
xm_evGP0NC4-00426-00129967-00130283 exactly why i can't do real
xm_evGP0NC4-00427-00130283-00130542 skateboarding
xm_evGP0NC4-00428-00130543-00131511 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00429-00131512-00132319 but you know what okay where you're at
xm_evGP0NC4-00430-00132320-00132487 okay that's good but if you could do it
xm_evGP0NC4-00431-00132488-00132902 300 pounds fatter
xm_evGP0NC4-00432-00132903-00133135 one story hawk how would you rate this
xm_evGP0NC4-00433-00133136-00133254 course so far
xm_evGP0NC4-00434-00133255-00133614 out of five stars i would rate it oof
xm_evGP0NC4-00435-00133615-00134199 so two stars i would rate it one roblox
xm_evGP0NC4-00436-00134200-00135271 no no i would rate it one minecraft move
xm_evGP0NC4-00437-00135272-00135454 bob this is what happens when you don't
xm_evGP0NC4-00438-00135455-00135883 come to practice
xm_evGP0NC4-00439-00135884-00136429 peace
xm_evGP0NC4-00440-00136430-00137239 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00441-00137240-00137695 well i i just love me so
xm_evGP0NC4-00442-00137696-00137966 some sandpits they're fun i spent time
xm_evGP0NC4-00443-00137967-00138159 with the arabian desert it was the best
xm_evGP0NC4-00444-00138160-00138375 time of my life there get on the
xm_evGP0NC4-00445-00138376-00138623 green hold up i think you're gonna win
xm_evGP0NC4-00446-00138624-00138847 just because i'm gonna this hole up a
xm_evGP0NC4-00447-00138848-00139583 hundred million times
xm_evGP0NC4-00448-00139584-00140083 wildly i want a shirt that says toots
xm_evGP0NC4-00449-00140084-00140247 wildly
xm_evGP0NC4-00450-00140248-00141454 no contacts just toots wildly
xm_evGP0NC4-00451-00141455-00141614 i know these guys are playing their
xm_evGP0NC4-00452-00141615-00141954 hearts out but
xm_evGP0NC4-00453-00141955-00142159 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00454-00142160-00142295 none of the people in this band have
xm_evGP0NC4-00455-00142296-00142511 ever met somebody
xm_evGP0NC4-00456-00142512-00142823 crumpled up sheet music in the wads and
xm_evGP0NC4-00457-00142824-00143399 threw it at him and hit record
xm_evGP0NC4-00458-00143400-00143616 and then one guy stayed and he's like
xm_evGP0NC4-00459-00143617-00143766 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00460-00143767-00144111 two guys three guys
xm_evGP0NC4-00461-00144112-00144366 there we go they got completely lost he
xm_evGP0NC4-00462-00144367-00144500 was like follow me
xm_evGP0NC4-00463-00144501-00144759 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00464-00144760-00145143 yes frosty the snow manning
xm_evGP0NC4-00465-00145144-00145487 it was the rare musicians you
xm_evGP0NC4-00466-00145488-00145999 follow the dootman follow the dootman
xm_evGP0NC4-00467-00146000-00146351 i want to write a story called no no
xm_evGP0NC4-00468-00146352-00146711 please please please yes uh
xm_evGP0NC4-00469-00146712-00147023 uh hello my name is paul dootman um
xm_evGP0NC4-00470-00147024-00147399 i am the cpa for
xm_evGP0NC4-00471-00147400-00148326 for slam bonk inc um
xm_evGP0NC4-00472-00148327-00148487 okay you know what i would describe
xm_evGP0NC4-00473-00148488-00148751 skies scar is the best terrible music
xm_evGP0NC4-00474-00148752-00149278 you can listen to
xm_evGP0NC4-00475-00149279-00149687 stop stop stop no man there goes my
xm_evGP0NC4-00476-00149688-00149975 here goes my easy putt i'll tell you how
xm_evGP0NC4-00477-00149976-00150039 to go
xm_evGP0NC4-00478-00150040-00150223 i could be i can be bad at the game on
xm_evGP0NC4-00479-00150224-00151039 my own thank you very much
xm_evGP0NC4-00480-00151040-00151151 you know what i think my biggest problem
xm_evGP0NC4-00481-00151152-00151343 with this golf with this course is
xm_evGP0NC4-00482-00151344-00151702 it lacks interesting features
xm_evGP0NC4-00483-00151703-00152014 yeah where's my where's my
xm_evGP0NC4-00484-00152015-00152214 bridge over a river where's my bridge
xm_evGP0NC4-00485-00152215-00152319 over troubled water
xm_evGP0NC4-00486-00152320-00152751 where's my ravine what is that
xm_evGP0NC4-00487-00152752-00153095 why is there a tarpon
xm_evGP0NC4-00488-00153096-00153423 why is that river a square why is it
xm_evGP0NC4-00489-00153424-00153511 floating
xm_evGP0NC4-00490-00153512-00153863 why is the river not why is the lake
xm_evGP0NC4-00491-00153864-00154183 not where it's in the ground where it's
xm_evGP0NC4-00492-00154184-00154295 supposed to be
xm_evGP0NC4-00493-00154296-00154599 and why is there someone just
xm_evGP0NC4-00494-00154600-00155359 hot boxing over there real hard
xm_evGP0NC4-00495-00155360-00155511 i think my biggest problem with this
xm_evGP0NC4-00496-00155512-00155631 course is that there aren't any
xm_evGP0NC4-00497-00155632-00156231 interesting features
xm_evGP0NC4-00498-00156232-00156566 like what the hell happened
xm_evGP0NC4-00499-00156567-00156831 the thing they just kicked in is what
xm_evGP0NC4-00500-00156832-00156951 happened
xm_evGP0NC4-00501-00156952-00157351 oh no the drugs
xm_evGP0NC4-00502-00157352-00157712 drove to the passing star
xm_evGP0NC4-00503-00157713-00158007 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00504-00158008-00158721 fooling to know
xm_evGP0NC4-00505-00158722-00159399 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00506-00159400-00159695 hey so i'm giving this five stars now
xm_evGP0NC4-00507-00159696-00159799 because there's a floating
xm_evGP0NC4-00508-00159800-00160431 lake
xm_evGP0NC4-00509-00160432-00160678 there we go all right so what you're
xm_evGP0NC4-00510-00160679-00160871 tied up again now
xm_evGP0NC4-00511-00160872-00161223 where are you i want to play from
xm_evGP0NC4-00512-00161224-00162263 inside the trees
xm_evGP0NC4-00513-00162264-00162575 um camera
xm_evGP0NC4-00514-00162576-00162790 what do you think that went this is what
xm_evGP0NC4-00515-00162791-00162951 it's like to be a real golfer just kind
xm_evGP0NC4-00516-00162952-00163102 of hoping that it went a place you want
xm_evGP0NC4-00517-00163103-00163231 it to
xm_evGP0NC4-00518-00163232-00163519 nope how did that happen you golf
xm_evGP0NC4-00519-00163520-00163702 practically same place i go
xm_evGP0NC4-00520-00163703-00164023 i swift my shot pretty hard
xm_evGP0NC4-00521-00164024-00164383 maybe maybe i'll make a pb j oh god
xm_evGP0NC4-00522-00164384-00164735 that would be nice be fair no no
xm_evGP0NC4-00523-00164736-00164975 get on the green so i can have an easy
xm_evGP0NC4-00524-00164976-00165071 putt
xm_evGP0NC4-00525-00165072-00165271 this is just normal golf conversation by
xm_evGP0NC4-00526-00165272-00165423 the way you're out there like
xm_evGP0NC4-00527-00165424-00165702 i could really use a sweetie uh maybe
xm_evGP0NC4-00528-00165703-00165759 i'm gonna make a pee
xm_evGP0NC4-00529-00165760-00166031 pee in jail oh god where are you going
xm_evGP0NC4-00530-00166032-00166295 paul stop
xm_evGP0NC4-00531-00166296-00166966 driving my eats clubs maybe some skunks
xm_evGP0NC4-00532-00166967-00167743 catty i need 400 beers
xm_evGP0NC4-00533-00167744-00167895 here we go just keep rolling keep
xm_evGP0NC4-00534-00167896-00169487 rolling keep rolling keep rolling you
xm_evGP0NC4-00535-00169488-00170711 last
xm_evGP0NC4-00536-00170712-00170884 yes
xm_evGP0NC4-00537-00170885-00171159 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00538-00171160-00171295 that's what we do in our part of the
xm_evGP0NC4-00539-00171296-00171478 world you know you just take your wife
xm_evGP0NC4-00540-00171479-00171631 you put her up on a stool you cut hole
xm_evGP0NC4-00541-00171632-00171775 in the bottom and then
xm_evGP0NC4-00542-00171776-00172063 right in there this is so stupid why is
xm_evGP0NC4-00543-00172064-00172111 this an
xm_evGP0NC4-00544-00172112-00172407 option that would interfere with your
xm_evGP0NC4-00545-00172408-00172583 swing so hard
xm_evGP0NC4-00546-00172584-00172766 yeah when i first saw that in the menu
xm_evGP0NC4-00547-00172767-00172919 oh look there's an elf hat in the santa
xm_evGP0NC4-00548-00172920-00172990 hat
xm_evGP0NC4-00549-00172991-00173502 oh we didn't even see these
xm_evGP0NC4-00550-00173503-00173687 oh because i thought each of these was a
xm_evGP0NC4-00551-00173688-00173814 hat i didn't realize they were
xm_evGP0NC4-00552-00173815-00174119 categories of hats
xm_evGP0NC4-00553-00174120-00174431 could have been my elf your
xm_evGP0NC4-00554-00174432-00174831 incredibly grumpy curmudgeony elf
xm_evGP0NC4-00555-00174832-00174983 so it's just like in rudolph the redness
xm_evGP0NC4-00556-00174984-00175366 reindeer exactly
xm_evGP0NC4-00557-00175367-00177263 hurry up
xm_evGP0NC4-00558-00177264-00177838 this is probably going into the water
xm_evGP0NC4-00559-00177839-00178271 hello hi alligator hello big guitar
xm_evGP0NC4-00560-00178272-00178743 that was playing golf not mini golf
xm_evGP0NC4-00561-00178744-00178919 what the [__] this tree the first
xm_evGP0NC4-00562-00178920-00179223 whoever designed this course is a sadist
xm_evGP0NC4-00563-00179224-00179423 i guess i'm going over the tree i can't
xm_evGP0NC4-00564-00179424-00179599 even see where i'm aiming because this
xm_evGP0NC4-00565-00179600-00179695 is just whole
xm_evGP0NC4-00566-00179696-00180647 this is just ball plunk
xm_evGP0NC4-00567-00180648-00181119 should we save us oh yes
xm_evGP0NC4-00568-00181120-00181263 i'm feeling this course might actually
xm_evGP0NC4-00569-00181264-00181895 be impossible
xm_evGP0NC4-00570-00181896-00182007 yeah you're going through this tree no
xm_evGP0NC4-00571-00182008-00182190 matter what you do whoever designed this
xm_evGP0NC4-00572-00182191-00182566 as an idiot
xm_evGP0NC4-00573-00182567-00182751 what are all those balloons doing up
xm_evGP0NC4-00574-00182752-00182926 there
xm_evGP0NC4-00575-00182927-00183207 being badoos also i'd like to point out
xm_evGP0NC4-00576-00183208-00183319 that when i started
xm_evGP0NC4-00577-00183320-00183526 the default wind speed that the creator
xm_evGP0NC4-00578-00183527-00183631 had put on this
xm_evGP0NC4-00579-00183632-00183966 was like gale force
xm_evGP0NC4-00580-00183967-00184495 this is that level of mario maker
xm_evGP0NC4-00581-00184496-00185047 whoops oh and that was
xm_evGP0NC4-00582-00185048-00185366 three that was 97 and i hit it
xm_evGP0NC4-00583-00185367-00186878 halfway to where i was aiming
xm_evGP0NC4-00584-00186879-00187214 wait why did it where was my
xm_evGP0NC4-00585-00187215-00187543 putter
xm_evGP0NC4-00586-00187544-00188047 no what
xm_evGP0NC4-00587-00188048-00188390 this is so it's killing our sound system
xm_evGP0NC4-00588-00188391-00189247 what the [__] was that garbage yours
xm_evGP0NC4-00589-00189248-00189737 and now you're putting at 79. 72-79
xm_evGP0NC4-00590-00189738-00190483 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00591-00190484-00190807 power
xm_evGP0NC4-00592-00190808-00191111 this entire course is hard sure
xm_evGP0NC4-00593-00191112-00191526 is you're on a lobby doing it again why
xm_evGP0NC4-00594-00191527-00191883 because he's put the hole not on the
xm_evGP0NC4-00595-00191884-00192295 green
xm_evGP0NC4-00596-00192296-00192599 he's got it in the light rough so it
xm_evGP0NC4-00597-00192600-00192799 won't even take away the damn
xm_evGP0NC4-00598-00192800-00193175 flag by default
xm_evGP0NC4-00599-00193176-00193438 the person who made this literally has
xm_evGP0NC4-00600-00193439-00193719 no brain
xm_evGP0NC4-00601-00193720-00194414 can i would like to rate this and quit
xm_evGP0NC4-00602-00194415-00194935 great course one
xm_evGP0NC4-00603-00194936-00195302 report course
xm_evGP0NC4-00604-00195303-00195575 copyright infringement inappropriate
xm_evGP0NC4-00605-00195576-00195719 course name
xm_evGP0NC4-00606-00195720-00195871 oh wait no i can't name it that i
xm_evGP0NC4-00607-00195872-00196223 believe it was named buttface wait
xm_evGP0NC4-00608-00196224-00196263 that's
xm_evGP0NC4-00609-00196264-00196431 you know report cards inappropriate
xm_evGP0NC4-00610-00196432-00196614 course name no get out of here get your
xm_evGP0NC4-00611-00196615-00196687 garbage
xm_evGP0NC4-00612-00196688-00196975 get your garbage off of this place
xm_evGP0NC4-00613-00196976-00197047 anyways
xm_evGP0NC4-00614-00197048-00197438 let's go make our level anal waste
xm_evGP0NC4-00615-00197439-00197599 all right so thank you guys for hanging
xm_evGP0NC4-00616-00197600-00197887 out with us uh we will be back
xm_evGP0NC4-00617-00197888-00198607 either we'll be back tomorrow
xm_evGP0NC4-00618-00198608-00198883 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00619-00198884-00199218 saturday
xm_evGP0NC4-00620-00199219-00200838 [Music]
xm_evGP0NC4-00621-00200839-00201048 you
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yoqOcdnClYI-00001-00000138-00000497 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00003-00004410-00004838 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00004-00004839-00007673 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00005-00007673-00008214 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00006-00008215-00008596 monsters on your feet it's time for
yoqOcdnClYI-00007-00008597-00009017 wiggling if you please when I say freeze
yoqOcdnClYI-00008-00009018-00009209 it's time to stop
yoqOcdnClYI-00009-00009210-00009917 now let's wiggle one two three wiggle
yoqOcdnClYI-00010-00009918-00010070 and wiggle
yoqOcdnClYI-00011-00010071-00010405 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00012-00010406-00011056 wiggle wiggle wiggle freeze
yoqOcdnClYI-00013-00011057-00011569 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00014-00011570-00014380 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00015-00014381-00014774 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00016-00014775-00017705 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00017-00017706-00017891 laughs
yoqOcdnClYI-00018-00017892-00018090 everybody dance
yoqOcdnClYI-00019-00018091-00018170 [Applause]
yoqOcdnClYI-00020-00018171-00018535 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00021-00018536-00018689 [Applause]
yoqOcdnClYI-00022-00018690-00020785 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00023-00020786-00021247 here they come walking up the street
yoqOcdnClYI-00024-00021248-00021472 laughing growling stomping feet
yoqOcdnClYI-00025-00021473-00021949 frightening everyone they meet
yoqOcdnClYI-00026-00021950-00022422 very very scared
yoqOcdnClYI-00027-00022423-00022757 the monsters are here rhymes
yoqOcdnClYI-00028-00022758-00024569 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00029-00024570-00025000 the monsters are a noisy crowd
yoqOcdnClYI-00030-00025001-00025258 they yell and shout and love too loud
yoqOcdnClYI-00031-00025259-00025733 they don't ask if they're allowed
yoqOcdnClYI-00032-00025733-00026004 very very scared
yoqOcdnClYI-00033-00026005-00026190 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00034-00026191-00026547 the monsters are here
yoqOcdnClYI-00035-00026548-00026874 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00036-00026875-00027342 the monsters are here run run run
yoqOcdnClYI-00037-00027343-00028337 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00038-00028338-00028768 the strangest sight you have ever seen
yoqOcdnClYI-00039-00028769-00028990 their eyes are yellow their skin is
yoqOcdnClYI-00040-00028991-00029218 green they don't mind if they're not
yoqOcdnClYI-00041-00029219-00029479 clean
yoqOcdnClYI-00042-00029480-00029952 very very scared scared
yoqOcdnClYI-00043-00029954-00030301 the monsters are here Rhymes
yoqOcdnClYI-00044-00030302-00032131 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00045-00032132-00032602 they like scaring everyone
yoqOcdnClYI-00046-00032603-00032861 cause trouble just for fun take my
yoqOcdnClYI-00047-00032862-00033006 advice you better run
yoqOcdnClYI-00048-00033007-00033265 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00049-00033266-00033547 very very scared
yoqOcdnClYI-00050-00033548-00033727 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00051-00033728-00034090 the monsters are here
yoqOcdnClYI-00052-00034091-00034615 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00053-00034616-00034886 run run run
yoqOcdnClYI-00054-00034887-00035896 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00055-00035897-00036407 when the monsters come to town
yoqOcdnClYI-00056-00036408-00036652 find kids hanging round they will chase
yoqOcdnClYI-00057-00036653-00036774 you around
yoqOcdnClYI-00058-00036775-00036971 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00059-00036972-00037201 you Robbie very very
yoqOcdnClYI-00060-00037202-00037318 scared
yoqOcdnClYI-00061-00037319-00037501 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00062-00037502-00037861 the monsters
yoqOcdnClYI-00063-00037862-00039287 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00064-00039288-00040178 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00065-00040179-00042995 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00066-00042996-00043221 not me
yoqOcdnClYI-00067-00043222-00043895 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00068-00043896-00044257 four little monsters that I once knew
yoqOcdnClYI-00069-00044258-00044596 locked in the castle with nothing to do
yoqOcdnClYI-00070-00044597-00044977 someone came along and opened the door
yoqOcdnClYI-00071-00044978-00045305 one got away and there were just three
yoqOcdnClYI-00072-00045306-00045671 more who let the monster Out who who who
yoqOcdnClYI-00073-00045672-00046140 who let the monster out was it you
yoqOcdnClYI-00074-00046141-00046354 not me
yoqOcdnClYI-00075-00046355-00047033 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00076-00047034-00047365 three little monsters
yoqOcdnClYI-00077-00047366-00048865 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00078-00048866-00049367 who let the monster out was it you not
yoqOcdnClYI-00079-00049368-00049685 me
yoqOcdnClYI-00080-00049686-00049817 foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00081-00049818-00050061 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00082-00050062-00050500 [Applause]
yoqOcdnClYI-00083-00050501-00050929 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00084-00050930-00051376 came along and opened the door one got
yoqOcdnClYI-00085-00051377-00051730 away and there was just one more
yoqOcdnClYI-00086-00051732-00052019 the monster out
yoqOcdnClYI-00087-00052020-00052108 who
yoqOcdnClYI-00088-00052109-00052487 who let the monster out was it you not
yoqOcdnClYI-00089-00052488-00052637 me foreign
yoqOcdnClYI-00090-00052638-00053920 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00091-00053921-00055810 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00092-00055811-00056785 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00093-00056786-00057103 that big money is a mommy
yoqOcdnClYI-00094-00057104-00057307 yay monsters
yoqOcdnClYI-00095-00057308-00057854 [Laughter]
yoqOcdnClYI-00096-00057854-00057898 [Applause]
yoqOcdnClYI-00097-00057899-00058588 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00098-00058589-00058894 who took the goodies from the pumpkin
yoqOcdnClYI-00099-00058895-00059219 pot the zombie took the goodies from the
yoqOcdnClYI-00100-00059220-00059544 pumpkin pot oh oh me
yoqOcdnClYI-00101-00059545-00060823 yes you not me then who the wish
yoqOcdnClYI-00102-00060824-00061617 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00103-00061619-00061807 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00104-00061808-00062171 from the pumpkin pot the witch took the
yoqOcdnClYI-00105-00062172-00062723 goodies from the pumpkin pot who me yes
yoqOcdnClYI-00106-00062724-00063411 you not me then who the vampire
yoqOcdnClYI-00107-00063412-00064723 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00108-00064724-00065032 who took the goodies from the pumpkin
yoqOcdnClYI-00109-00065033-00065369 pot the vampire took the goodies from
yoqOcdnClYI-00110-00065370-00065938 the pumpkin pot who me
yoqOcdnClYI-00111-00065939-00066287 me
yoqOcdnClYI-00112-00066288-00066489 the monster
yoqOcdnClYI-00113-00066490-00067126 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00114-00067127-00067448 I think
yoqOcdnClYI-00115-00067449-00067806 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00116-00067807-00068111 who took the goodies from the pumpkin
yoqOcdnClYI-00117-00068112-00068399 pot the monster took the goodies from
yoqOcdnClYI-00118-00068400-00069163 the pumpkin pot who me yes you not me
yoqOcdnClYI-00119-00069164-00069415 then who
yoqOcdnClYI-00120-00069416-00070297 the ghosts
yoqOcdnClYI-00121-00070298-00070869 oh scary
yoqOcdnClYI-00122-00070870-00071479 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00123-00071480-00071849 the moon is full and I'm feeling spooky
yoqOcdnClYI-00124-00071850-00072076 we're gonna get dressed up to look
yoqOcdnClYI-00125-00072077-00072413 really cookie got my fangs in and my
yoqOcdnClYI-00126-00072414-00072779 black cake on I'm a vampire so you'd
yoqOcdnClYI-00127-00072780-00073199 better run knock knock trick or treat
yoqOcdnClYI-00128-00073200-00073499 it's Halloween make me want something
yoqOcdnClYI-00129-00073500-00073735 sweet knock knock
yoqOcdnClYI-00130-00073736-00074123 trick or treat it's Halloween we want
yoqOcdnClYI-00131-00074124-00074419 candies to eat
yoqOcdnClYI-00132-00074420-00074819 trick or treat it's Halloween and we
yoqOcdnClYI-00133-00074820-00075119 want something sweet knock knock the
yoqOcdnClYI-00134-00075120-00075473 trick got a treat it's Halloween and we
yoqOcdnClYI-00135-00075474-00075913 want candy sweets
yoqOcdnClYI-00136-00075914-00076241 the night is dark and there's chill in
yoqOcdnClYI-00137-00076242-00076517 the air and gonna get dressed up to
yoqOcdnClYI-00138-00076518-00076829 cause a scare I got my boom in hand and
yoqOcdnClYI-00139-00076830-00077243 my pointy hat on I'm a witch so you'd
yoqOcdnClYI-00140-00077244-00077503 better run knock knock
yoqOcdnClYI-00141-00077504-00077891 trick or treat it's Halloween can we
yoqOcdnClYI-00142-00077892-00078256 watch something sweet knock knock Drake
yoqOcdnClYI-00143-00078257-00078581 or treat it's Halloween and we want
yoqOcdnClYI-00144-00078582-00078988 candies to eat knock knock trick or
yoqOcdnClYI-00145-00078989-00079294 treat it's Halloween and we want
yoqOcdnClYI-00146-00079295-00079561 something sweet knock knock
yoqOcdnClYI-00147-00079562-00079949 trick or treat it's Halloween we want
yoqOcdnClYI-00148-00079950-00080371 candies to eat
yoqOcdnClYI-00149-00080372-00080705 the sun's gone down there are bats in
yoqOcdnClYI-00150-00080706-00080999 the sky gonna get dressed up to smoke
yoqOcdnClYI-00151-00081000-00081341 passes by got my sharp nails and my wolf
yoqOcdnClYI-00152-00081342-00081719 mask on I'm a werewolf so you'd better
yoqOcdnClYI-00153-00081720-00081947 run knock knock knock
yoqOcdnClYI-00154-00081948-00082644 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00155-00082645-00083038 trick or treat it's Halloween we want
yoqOcdnClYI-00156-00083039-00083335 candies to eat
yoqOcdnClYI-00157-00083336-00083723 trick or treat it's Halloween and we
yoqOcdnClYI-00158-00083724-00084119 want something sweet knock knock trick
yoqOcdnClYI-00159-00084120-00084412 or treat it's Halloween and we want
yoqOcdnClYI-00160-00084413-00084816 candies to eat
yoqOcdnClYI-00161-00084817-00086203 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00162-00086204-00086544 Halloween is here
yoqOcdnClYI-00163-00086545-00086903 the Bonnie Fire's burning crackle crack
yoqOcdnClYI-00164-00086904-00087006 crack
yoqOcdnClYI-00165-00087007-00087444 Shadows dancing click like the pumpkin
yoqOcdnClYI-00166-00087445-00087756 smiling behind your back
yoqOcdnClYI-00167-00087757-00088138 Midnight's coming Tick Tock tack it's
yoqOcdnClYI-00168-00088139-00088632 Halloween night it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00169-00088633-00088979 Halloween night it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00170-00088980-00089365 it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00171-00089366-00089611 Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00172-00089612-00090023 look out the ghosts and ghouls are
yoqOcdnClYI-00173-00090024-00090221 everywhere
yoqOcdnClYI-00174-00090222-00090456 hahaha
yoqOcdnClYI-00175-00090457-00090882 the zombies prowling prowl proud
yoqOcdnClYI-00176-00090883-00091159 werewolves howling
yoqOcdnClYI-00177-00091160-00091603 the witch is scowling
yoqOcdnClYI-00178-00091604-00092009 monsters growling growl growl growl it's
yoqOcdnClYI-00179-00092010-00092509 Halloween night it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00180-00092510-00092855 Halloween night it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00181-00092856-00093241 it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00182-00093242-00093611 Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00183-00093612-00093905 let's find ourselves a nice safe place
yoqOcdnClYI-00184-00093906-00093978 to hide
yoqOcdnClYI-00185-00093979-00094135 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00186-00094136-00094475 the bun fire is burning crackle crack
yoqOcdnClYI-00187-00094476-00094579 crack
yoqOcdnClYI-00188-00094580-00094873 Shadows dancing
yoqOcdnClYI-00189-00094874-00095323 the pumpkin smiling behind your back
yoqOcdnClYI-00190-00095324-00095711 Midnight's coming Tick Tock tack it's
yoqOcdnClYI-00191-00095712-00096025 Halloween night it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00192-00096026-00096199 [Music]
yoqOcdnClYI-00193-00096200-00096544 Halloween night it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00194-00096545-00096937 it's Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00195-00096938-00097217 Halloween Halloween night
yoqOcdnClYI-00196-00097218-00097481 time to get back home see you next
yoqOcdnClYI-00197-00097482-00097727 Halloween goodbye
yoqOcdnClYI-00198-00097728-00098122 [Music]
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y1-YE31ffy4-00011-00002639-00002938 outside stage lighting the job of a
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y1-YE31ffy4-00015-00003545-00003724 art installation and on massive
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y1-YE31ffy4-00028-00007239-00007459 resident lighting designer responsible
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y1-YE31ffy4-00032-00008067-00008296 productions at the off-broadway
y1-YE31ffy4-00033-00008297-00008582 off-off-broadway level the LD will
y1-YE31ffy4-00034-00008583-00008785 occasionally be responsible for much of
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y1-YE31ffy4-00036-00008975-00009170 instruments programming the light board
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y1-YE31ffy4-00038-00009378-00009746 lighting crew in a larger theater the LD
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y1-YE31ffy4-00047-00011429-00011627 manager to discuss ideas for the show
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y1-YE31ffy4-00057-00013823-00014000 lighting positions and a list of their
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y1-YE31ffy4-00065-00015515-00015738 abstract than costume or scenic design
y1-YE31ffy4-00066-00015740-00015934 it is sometimes difficult for the
y1-YE31ffy4-00067-00015935-00016132 lighting designer to accurately convey
y1-YE31ffy4-00068-00016133-00016336 his or her ideas to the rest of the
y1-YE31ffy4-00069-00016337-00016606 production team to help the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00070-00016607-00016819 communicate the ethereal aspects of
y1-YE31ffy4-00071-00016820-00017044 lighting he or she may employ renderings
y1-YE31ffy4-00072-00017045-00017323 storyboards photographs reproductions of
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y1-YE31ffy4-00074-00017534-00017776 effects to help communicate ideas about
y1-YE31ffy4-00075-00017777-00018031 how the lighting should look various
y1-YE31ffy4-00076-00018032-00018253 forms of paperwork are essential for the
y1-YE31ffy4-00077-00018254-00018475 LD to successfully communicate their
y1-YE31ffy4-00078-00018476-00018661 design to various members of the
y1-YE31ffy4-00079-00018662-00018931 production team examples of typical
y1-YE31ffy4-00080-00018932-00019198 paperwork include cue sheets light plots
y1-YE31ffy4-00081-00019199-00019441 instrument schedules shop orders and
y1-YE31ffy4-00082-00019442-00019747 focus charts few sheets communicate the
y1-YE31ffy4-00083-00019748-00019954 placement of cues that the LD has
y1-YE31ffy4-00084-00019955-00020179 created for the show using artistic
y1-YE31ffy4-00085-00020180-00020368 terminology rather than technical
y1-YE31ffy4-00086-00020369-00020593 language and information on exactly when
y1-YE31ffy4-00087-00020594-00020794 each cue is called so that the stage
y1-YE31ffy4-00088-00020795-00021022 manager and the assistants know when and
y1-YE31ffy4-00089-00021023-00021310 where to call the cue cue sheets are of
y1-YE31ffy4-00090-00021311-00021640 the most value to stage management the
y1-YE31ffy4-00091-00021641-00021835 light plot as a scale drawing that
y1-YE31ffy4-00092-00021836-00022030 communicates the location of lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00093-00022031-00022219 fixtures and lighting positions so a
y1-YE31ffy4-00094-00022220-00022399 team of electricians can independently
y1-YE31ffy4-00095-00022400-00022747 install the lighting system next to each
y1-YE31ffy4-00096-00022748-00022909 instrument on the plan will be
y1-YE31ffy4-00097-00022910-00023167 information for any color gel gobo or
y1-YE31ffy4-00098-00023168-00023392 other accessory that needs to go with it
y1-YE31ffy4-00099-00023393-00023697 and its channel number often paperwork
y1-YE31ffy4-00100-00023698-00023908 listing all of this information is also
y1-YE31ffy4-00101-00023909-00024147 generated by using a program such as
y1-YE31ffy4-00102-00024148-00024442 light right the lighting designer uses
y1-YE31ffy4-00103-00024443-00024592 this paperwork to aid in the
y1-YE31ffy4-00104-00024593-00024832 visualization of not only ideas but
y1-YE31ffy4-00105-00024833-00025024 simple lists to assist the master
y1-YE31ffy4-00106-00025025-00025252 electrician during load-in focus and
y1-YE31ffy4-00107-00025253-00025569 technical rehearsals professional LDS
y1-YE31ffy4-00108-00025570-00025780 generally use special computer-aided
y1-YE31ffy4-00109-00025781-00026044 design packages to create accurate and
y1-YE31ffy4-00110-00026045-00026260 easily readable drafted plots that can
y1-YE31ffy4-00111-00026261-00026611 be swiftly updated as necessary the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00112-00026612-00026800 will discuss the plot with the show's
y1-YE31ffy4-00113-00026801-00026986 production manager and the theaters
y1-YE31ffy4-00114-00026987-00027220 master electrician or technical director
y1-YE31ffy4-00115-00027220-00027412 to make sure there are no unforeseen
y1-YE31ffy4-00116-00027413-00027727 problems during low din
y1-YE31ffy4-00117-00027729-00027970 the lighting designer as responsible in
y1-YE31ffy4-00118-00027972-00028136 conjunction with the productions
y1-YE31ffy4-00119-00028137-00028361 independently hired production
y1-YE31ffy4-00120-00028362-00028627 electrician who will interface with the
y1-YE31ffy4-00121-00028629-00028820 theaters master electrician for
y1-YE31ffy4-00122-00028820-00029036 directing the theaters electrics crew in
y1-YE31ffy4-00123-00029037-00029233 the realization of his or her designs
y1-YE31ffy4-00124-00029235-00029525 during the technical rehearsals after
y1-YE31ffy4-00125-00029526-00029738 the electricians have hung circuited and
y1-YE31ffy4-00126-00029739-00029972 patched the lighting units the LD will
y1-YE31ffy4-00127-00029973-00030214 direct the focusing pointing shaping and
y1-YE31ffy4-00128-00030216-00030422 sizing of the light beams and gelling
y1-YE31ffy4-00129-00030423-00030767 coloring of each unit after focus has
y1-YE31ffy4-00130-00030768-00030998 occurred the LD usually sits at a
y1-YE31ffy4-00131-00030999-00031247 temporary desk tech table in the theater
y1-YE31ffy4-00132-00031248-00031439 typically on the centerline in the
y1-YE31ffy4-00133-00031439-00031639 middle of the house where he or she has
y1-YE31ffy4-00134-00031641-00031838 a good view of the stage and work with
y1-YE31ffy4-00135-00031839-00032033 the lighting board operator programmer
y1-YE31ffy4-00136-00032033-00032258 who will either be seated alongside him
y1-YE31ffy4-00137-00032258-00032498 or her at a portable control console or
y1-YE31ffy4-00138-00032499-00032738 talk via headset to the control room at
y1-YE31ffy4-00139-00032739-00033074 the tech table the LD will generally use
y1-YE31ffy4-00140-00033075-00033257 a magic sheet which is a pictorial
y1-YE31ffy4-00141-00033258-00033458 layout of how the lights relate to the
y1-YE31ffy4-00142-00033459-00033680 stage so he or she can have quick access
y1-YE31ffy4-00143-00033681-00033881 to channel numbers that control
y1-YE31ffy4-00144-00033882-00034196 particular lighting instruments the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00145-00034197-00034406 may also have a copy of the light plot
y1-YE31ffy4-00146-00034407-00034604 and channel hook up a remote lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00147-00034605-00034841 console a computer monitor connected to
y1-YE31ffy4-00148-00034842-00035033 the light board so they can see what the
y1-YE31ffy4-00149-00035034-00035252 board op is doing and a headset though
y1-YE31ffy4-00150-00035253-00035476 in smaller theaters this is less common
y1-YE31ffy4-00151-00035477-00035762 there may be a period of time allowed
y1-YE31ffy4-00152-00035763-00036026 for pre lighting or pre cueing a
y1-YE31ffy4-00153-00036027-00036290 practice that is often done with people
y1-YE31ffy4-00154-00036291-00036512 known as light Walker's who stand in for
y1-YE31ffy4-00155-00036513-00036746 performers so the LD can see what the
y1-YE31ffy4-00156-00036747-00037010 light looks like on bodies at an
y1-YE31ffy4-00157-00037011-00037256 arranged time the performers arrive and
y1-YE31ffy4-00158-00037257-00037406 the production has worked through in
y1-YE31ffy4-00159-00037407-00037586 chronological order with occasional
y1-YE31ffy4-00160-00037587-00037781 stops to correct sound lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00161-00037782-00038150 entrances etc known as a cue to cue or
y1-YE31ffy4-00162-00038151-00038423 tech rehearsal the lighting designer
y1-YE31ffy4-00163-00038424-00038594 will work constantly with the board
y1-YE31ffy4-00164-00038595-00038798 operator to refine the lighting States
y1-YE31ffy4-00165-00038799-00039032 as the technical rehearsal continues but
y1-YE31ffy4-00166-00039033-00039344 because the focus of a tech rehearsal as
y1-YE31ffy4-00167-00039345-00039566 the production's technical aspects the
y1-YE31ffy4-00168-00039567-00039812 LD may require the performers to pause
y1-YE31ffy4-00169-00039813-00040214 hold frequently nevertheless any errors
y1-YE31ffy4-00170-00040215-00040424 of focusing or changes to the lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00171-00040425-00040598 plan are corrected only when the
y1-YE31ffy4-00172-00040599-00040843 performers are not onstage
y1-YE31ffy4-00173-00040844-00041092 these changes take place during work or
y1-YE31ffy4-00174-00041093-00041443 note calls the LD only attends these
y1-YE31ffy4-00175-00041444-00041692 notes calls if units are hung or rehung
y1-YE31ffy4-00176-00041693-00042028 and require additional focusing the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00177-00042029-00042226 or assistant lighting director also
y1-YE31ffy4-00178-00042227-00042472 known as the Ald see below for
y1-YE31ffy4-00179-00042473-00042676 description will be in charge if in
y1-YE31ffy4-00180-00042677-00042961 attendance if the only work to be done
y1-YE31ffy4-00181-00042962-00043192 is maintenance ie changing a lamp or
y1-YE31ffy4-00182-00043193-00043405 burned-out gel then the production or
y1-YE31ffy4-00183-00043406-00043633 master electrician will be in charge and
y1-YE31ffy4-00184-00043634-00043954 will direct the electric screw after the
y1-YE31ffy4-00185-00043955-00044191 tech process the performance may or may
y1-YE31ffy4-00186-00044192-00044416 not depending on time constraints go
y1-YE31ffy4-00187-00044417-00044626 into dress rehearsal without a ticketed
y1-YE31ffy4-00188-00044627-00044854 audience and or previews with a ticketed
y1-YE31ffy4-00189-00044855-00045160 audience during this time if the queuing
y1-YE31ffy4-00190-00045161-00045379 is finished the LD will sit in the
y1-YE31ffy4-00191-00045380-00045574 audience and take notes on what works
y1-YE31ffy4-00192-00045575-00045856 and what needs changing at this point
y1-YE31ffy4-00193-00045857-00046069 the stage manager will begin to take
y1-YE31ffy4-00194-00046070-00046267 over the work of calling queues for the
y1-YE31ffy4-00195-00046268-00046573 light board op to follow generally the
y1-YE31ffy4-00196-00046574-00046819 LD will stay on headset and may still
y1-YE31ffy4-00197-00046820-00046996 have a monitor connected to the light
y1-YE31ffy4-00198-00046997-00047218 board in case of problems or will be in
y1-YE31ffy4-00199-00047219-00047392 the control booth with the board
y1-YE31ffy4-00200-00047393-00047646 operator when a monitor is not available
y1-YE31ffy4-00201-00047647-00047917 often changes will take place during
y1-YE31ffy4-00202-00047918-00048015 notes call
y1-YE31ffy4-00203-00048016-00048202 but if serious problems occur the
y1-YE31ffy4-00204-00048203-00048385 performance may be halted and the issue
y1-YE31ffy4-00205-00048386-00048733 will be resolved then once the show is
y1-YE31ffy4-00206-00048734-00048934 open to the public the lighting designer
y1-YE31ffy4-00207-00048935-00049114 will often stay and watch several
y1-YE31ffy4-00208-00049115-00049339 performances of the show making notes
y1-YE31ffy4-00209-00049340-00049561 each night and making desired changes
y1-YE31ffy4-00210-00049562-00049864 the next day during notes call if the
y1-YE31ffy4-00211-00049865-00050119 show is still in previews then the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00212-00050120-00050296 will make changes but once the
y1-YE31ffy4-00213-00050297-00050524 production officially opens normally the
y1-YE31ffy4-00214-00050525-00050710 lighting designer will not make further
y1-YE31ffy4-00215-00050711-00050865 changes
y1-YE31ffy4-00216-00050866-00051069 Changez should not be made after the
y1-YE31ffy4-00217-00051070-00051258 lighting design is finished and never
y1-YE31ffy4-00218-00051259-00051527 without the L DS approval there may be
y1-YE31ffy4-00219-00051528-00051774 times when changes are necessary after
y1-YE31ffy4-00220-00051775-00052001 the production has officially opened
y1-YE31ffy4-00221-00052002-00052271 reasons for changes after opening night
y1-YE31ffy4-00222-00052272-00052521 include casting changes significant
y1-YE31ffy4-00223-00052522-00052785 changes in blocking addition deletion or
y1-YE31ffy4-00224-00052786-00053010 rearrangement of scenes or the tech end
y1-YE31ffy4-00225-00053011-00053232 or preview period if there was a preview
y1-YE31ffy4-00226-00053233-00053454 period was too short to accommodate as
y1-YE31ffy4-00227-00053454-00053664 thorough a cueing as was needed this is
y1-YE31ffy4-00228-00053665-00053913 particularly common in dance productions
y1-YE31ffy4-00229-00053914-00054174 if significant changes need to be made
y1-YE31ffy4-00230-00054175-00054402 the LD will come in and make them
y1-YE31ffy4-00231-00054403-00054617 however if only smaller changes are
y1-YE31ffy4-00232-00054619-00054941 needed the LD may opt to send the Ald if
y1-YE31ffy4-00233-00054942-00055257 a show runs for a particularly long time
y1-YE31ffy4-00234-00055258-00055521 then the LD may come in periodically to
y1-YE31ffy4-00235-00055522-00055679 check the focus of each lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00236-00055680-00055833 instrument and if they are retaining
y1-YE31ffy4-00237-00055834-00056046 their color some gel especially
y1-YE31ffy4-00238-00056047-00056301 saturated gel loses its richness and can
y1-YE31ffy4-00239-00056302-00056670 fade or burn out over time the LD may
y1-YE31ffy4-00240-00056671-00056879 also sit in on a performance to make
y1-YE31ffy4-00241-00056880-00057054 sure that the cues are still being
y1-YE31ffy4-00242-00057054-00057339 called at the right place and time the
y1-YE31ffy4-00243-00057340-00057546 goal is often to finish by the opening
y1-YE31ffy4-00244-00057547-00057765 of the show but what is most important
y1-YE31ffy4-00245-00057766-00057996 is that the LD and the directors believe
y1-YE31ffy4-00246-00057997-00058197 that the design is finished - each is
y1-YE31ffy4-00247-00058198-00058494 satisfaction if that happens to be by
y1-YE31ffy4-00248-00058495-00058698 opening night then after opening no
y1-YE31ffy4-00249-00058699-00058878 changes are normally made to that
y1-YE31ffy4-00250-00058879-00059104 particular production run at that venue
y1-YE31ffy4-00251-00059105-00059376 the general maintenance of the lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00252-00059377-00059601 rig then becomes the responsibility of
y1-YE31ffy4-00253-00059602-00060260 the master electrician
y1-YE31ffy4-00254-00060261-00060858 topic in small theaters
y1-YE31ffy4-00255-00060859-00061125 it is uncommon for a small theater to
y1-YE31ffy4-00256-00061126-00061329 have a very large technical crew as
y1-YE31ffy4-00257-00061329-00061671 there is less work to do many times the
y1-YE31ffy4-00258-00061672-00061863 lighting crew of a small theater will
y1-YE31ffy4-00259-00061864-00062049 consist of a single lighting designer
y1-YE31ffy4-00260-00062050-00062262 and one to three people who collectively
y1-YE31ffy4-00261-00062263-00062478 are in charge of hanging focusing and
y1-YE31ffy4-00262-00062479-00062739 patching all lighting instruments the
y1-YE31ffy4-00263-00062740-00062954 lighting designer in this situation
y1-YE31ffy4-00264-00062955-00063165 commonly works directly with this small
y1-YE31ffy4-00265-00063166-00063407 team fulfilling the role of both master
y1-YE31ffy4-00266-00063408-00063690 electrician and lighting designer many
y1-YE31ffy4-00267-00063691-00063876 times the designer will directly
y1-YE31ffy4-00268-00063877-00064085 participate in the focusing of lights
y1-YE31ffy4-00269-00064086-00064353 the same crew will generally also
y1-YE31ffy4-00270-00064354-00064592 program cues and operate the light board
y1-YE31ffy4-00271-00064594-00064872 during rehearsals and performances in
y1-YE31ffy4-00272-00064873-00065109 some cases the light board and sound
y1-YE31ffy4-00273-00065110-00065310 board are operated by the same person
y1-YE31ffy4-00274-00065311-00065540 depending on the complexity of the show
y1-YE31ffy4-00275-00065541-00065835 the lighting designer may also take on
y1-YE31ffy4-00276-00065836-00066042 other roles in addition to lights when
y1-YE31ffy4-00277-00066043-00066207 they are finished hanging lights and
y1-YE31ffy4-00278-00066208-00066892 programming cues on the board
y1-YE31ffy4-00279-00066893-00067236 topic advances in visualization and
y1-YE31ffy4-00280-00067237-00067679 presentation
y1-YE31ffy4-00281-00067680-00067955 as previously mentioned it is difficult
y1-YE31ffy4-00282-00067956-00068150 to fully communicate the intent of a
y1-YE31ffy4-00283-00068151-00068330 lighting design before all the lights
y1-YE31ffy4-00284-00068331-00068519 are installed and all the cues are
y1-YE31ffy4-00285-00068520-00068800 written with the advancement in computer
y1-YE31ffy4-00286-00068801-00068993 processing and visualization software
y1-YE31ffy4-00287-00068994-00069206 lighting designers are now able to
y1-YE31ffy4-00288-00069207-00069485 create computer-generated images CGI
y1-YE31ffy4-00289-00069486-00069812 that represent their ideas the lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00290-00069813-00070010 designer enters the light plot into the
y1-YE31ffy4-00291-00070011-00070238 visualization software and then enters
y1-YE31ffy4-00292-00070239-00070432 the ground plan of the theater and set
y1-YE31ffy4-00293-00070433-00070673 design giving as much three-dimensional
y1-YE31ffy4-00294-00070674-00070801 data as possible
y1-YE31ffy4-00295-00070802-00070969 which helps in creating complete
y1-YE31ffy4-00296-00070970-00071315 renderings this creates a 3d model in
y1-YE31ffy4-00297-00071316-00071510 computer space that can be lit and
y1-YE31ffy4-00298-00071511-00071851 manipulated using the software the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00299-00071852-00072038 can use the lights from his plot to
y1-YE31ffy4-00300-00072039-00072275 create actual lighting in the 3d model
y1-YE31ffy4-00301-00072276-00072479 with the ability to define parameters
y1-YE31ffy4-00302-00072480-00072830 such as color focus gobo beam angle etc
y1-YE31ffy4-00303-00072831-00073141 the designer can then take renderings or
y1-YE31ffy4-00304-00073142-00073472 snapshots of various looks that can then
y1-YE31ffy4-00305-00073473-00073685 be printed out and shown to the director
y1-YE31ffy4-00306-00073686-00074398 and other members of the design team
y1-YE31ffy4-00307-00074399-00075095 topic mock-ups and lighting scale models
y1-YE31ffy4-00308-00075096-00075323 in addition to computer visualization
y1-YE31ffy4-00309-00075324-00075569 either full-scale or small scale
y1-YE31ffy4-00310-00075570-00075776 mock-ups are a good method for depicting
y1-YE31ffy4-00311-00075777-00076109 a lighting designers ideas fiber optic
y1-YE31ffy4-00312-00076110-00076319 systems such as light box or luksa
y1-YE31ffy4-00313-00076320-00076547 Malawi users to light a scale model of
y1-YE31ffy4-00314-00076548-00076871 the set for example a set designer can
y1-YE31ffy4-00315-00076872-00077099 create a model of the set in one-quarter
y1-YE31ffy4-00316-00077100-00077312 scale the lighting designer can then
y1-YE31ffy4-00317-00077313-00077519 take the fiber-optic cables and attach
y1-YE31ffy4-00318-00077520-00077735 them to scale down lighting units that
y1-YE31ffy4-00319-00077736-00077951 can accurately replicate the beam angles
y1-YE31ffy4-00320-00077952-00078238 of specified lighting fixtures these
y1-YE31ffy4-00321-00078239-00078446 mini lights can then be attached to
y1-YE31ffy4-00322-00078447-00078644 cross pieces simulating different
y1-YE31ffy4-00323-00078645-00078947 lighting positions fiber-optic fixtures
y1-YE31ffy4-00324-00078948-00079175 have the capacity to simulate attributes
y1-YE31ffy4-00325-00079176-00079349 of full-scale theatrical lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00326-00079350-00079601 fixtures including color beam angle
y1-YE31ffy4-00327-00079602-00079892 intensity and gobos the most
y1-YE31ffy4-00328-00079893-00080132 sophisticated fiber optic systems are
y1-YE31ffy4-00329-00080133-00080303 controllable through computer software
y1-YE31ffy4-00330-00080304-00080573 or a DMX controlled light board
y1-YE31ffy4-00331-00080574-00080831 this gives the lighting designer the
y1-YE31ffy4-00332-00080832-00081053 ability to mock up real-time lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00333-00081054-00081206 effects as they will look during the
y1-YE31ffy4-00334-00081207-00081769 show
y1-YE31ffy4-00335-00081770-00082072 topic additional members of the lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00336-00082073-00082527 design team
y1-YE31ffy4-00337-00082528-00082770 if the production is large or especially
y1-YE31ffy4-00338-00082771-00083010 complex the lighting designer may hire
y1-YE31ffy4-00339-00083011-00083205 additional lighting professionals to
y1-YE31ffy4-00340-00083206-00083850 help execute the design
y1-YE31ffy4-00341-00083851-00084480 topic the associate lighting designer
y1-YE31ffy4-00342-00084481-00084708 the associate lighting designer will
y1-YE31ffy4-00343-00084709-00084900 help assist the lighting designer in
y1-YE31ffy4-00344-00084901-00085086 creating and executing the lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00345-00085087-00085401 design while the duties that an LD may
y1-YE31ffy4-00346-00085402-00085659 expect the associate LD to perform may
y1-YE31ffy4-00347-00085660-00085902 differ from person to person usually the
y1-YE31ffy4-00348-00085903-00086244 asset LD will do the following attend
y1-YE31ffy4-00349-00086245-00086445 design and production meetings with or
y1-YE31ffy4-00350-00086446-00086736 in place of the LD attend rehearsals
y1-YE31ffy4-00351-00086737-00087033 with or in place of LD and take notes of
y1-YE31ffy4-00352-00087034-00087279 specific design ideas and tasks that the
y1-YE31ffy4-00353-00087280-00087512 lighting department needs to accomplish
y1-YE31ffy4-00354-00087513-00087801 assist the LD in generating the light
y1-YE31ffy4-00355-00087802-00088047 plot channel hookup and sketches if
y1-YE31ffy4-00356-00088048-00088320 needed the associate may need to take
y1-YE31ffy4-00357-00088321-00088530 the set drawings and put them into a CAD
y1-YE31ffy4-00358-00088531-00088767 program to be manipulated by the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00359-00088768-00089037 however this job is usually given to the
y1-YE31ffy4-00360-00089038-00089394 assistant LD if there is one the asset
y1-YE31ffy4-00361-00089395-00089664 LD may be in charge of running focus and
y1-YE31ffy4-00362-00089665-00089877 may even direct where the lights are to
y1-YE31ffy4-00363-00089878-00090198 be focused the associate has generally
y1-YE31ffy4-00364-00090199-00090435 authorised to speak on behalf of the LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00365-00090436-00090591 and can make creative and design
y1-YE31ffy4-00366-00090592-00090783 decisions when needed and when
y1-YE31ffy4-00367-00090784-00091113 authorized by the LD this is one of the
y1-YE31ffy4-00368-00091114-00091275 biggest differences between the
y1-YE31ffy4-00369-00091276-00091914 associate and the assistant
y1-YE31ffy4-00370-00091915-00092531 topic the assistant lighting designer
y1-YE31ffy4-00371-00092532-00092782 the assistant lighting designer assists
y1-YE31ffy4-00372-00092783-00092972 the lighting designer and the associate
y1-YE31ffy4-00373-00092973-00093232 lighting designer depending on the
y1-YE31ffy4-00374-00093233-00093428 particular arrangement the Ald may
y1-YE31ffy4-00375-00093429-00093712 report directly to the LD or they may in
y1-YE31ffy4-00376-00093713-00093917 essence be the associates assistant
y1-YE31ffy4-00377-00093918-00094162 there also may be more than one
y1-YE31ffy4-00378-00094163-00094363 assistant on a show depending on the
y1-YE31ffy4-00379-00094364-00094685 size of the production the Ald will
y1-YE31ffy4-00380-00094686-00094967 usually attend design and production
y1-YE31ffy4-00381-00094968-00095311 meetings with the LD or the associate LD
y1-YE31ffy4-00382-00095312-00095587 attend rehearsals with the LD or the
y1-YE31ffy4-00383-00095588-00095987 associate LD assist the LD in generating
y1-YE31ffy4-00384-00095988-00096278 the light plot and channel hookup if the
y1-YE31ffy4-00385-00096279-00096556 plot is to be computer generated the Ald
y1-YE31ffy4-00386-00096557-00096755 is the one who physically enters the
y1-YE31ffy4-00387-00096756-00097109 information into the computer the Ald
y1-YE31ffy4-00388-00097110-00097343 may run errands for the LD such as
y1-YE31ffy4-00389-00097344-00097543 picking up supplies or getting the light
y1-YE31ffy4-00390-00097544-00097924 plot printed in large format the Ald
y1-YE31ffy4-00391-00097925-00098171 will help the associate LD in running
y1-YE31ffy4-00392-00098172-00098569 focus the Ald may take focus charts
y1-YE31ffy4-00393-00098570-00098909 during focus track and coordinate follow
y1-YE31ffy4-00394-00098910-00099140 spots if any exist for the production
y1-YE31ffy4-00395-00099141-00099341 and generate paperwork to aid in their
y1-YE31ffy4-00396-00099342-00099641 cueing and color changes in rare
y1-YE31ffy4-00397-00099642-00099913 instances the Ald may be the light board
y1-YE31ffy4-00398-00099914-00100474 operator
y1-YE31ffy4-00399-00100475-00101040 topic a note on focus
y1-YE31ffy4-00400-00101041-00101324 during focus the LD is up on stage
y1-YE31ffy4-00401-00101325-00101571 directing members of the electrics crew
y1-YE31ffy4-00402-00101572-00101742 on where and how to focus each
y1-YE31ffy4-00403-00101743-00102039 individual lighting unit this can be a
y1-YE31ffy4-00404-00102040-00102266 time-consuming and frustrating process
y1-YE31ffy4-00405-00102267-00102518 focus can run much smoother if the
y1-YE31ffy4-00406-00102519-00102777 associate LD and the assistant LD are
y1-YE31ffy4-00407-00102778-00102959 keeping good track of which lights have
y1-YE31ffy4-00408-00102960-00103179 been focused what's coming up next and
y1-YE31ffy4-00409-00103180-00103358 directing the electrics crew so that
y1-YE31ffy4-00410-00103359-00103535 there is minimal downtime between
y1-YE31ffy4-00411-00103536-00103839 focusing each light they should also
y1-YE31ffy4-00412-00103840-00104091 direct the LD to which units are next
y1-YE31ffy4-00413-00104092-00104274 and even what their purpose as in a
y1-YE31ffy4-00414-00104275-00104867 rough focus
y1-YE31ffy4-00415-00104868-00105415 topic see also
y1-YE31ffy4-00416-00105416-00105735 list of lighting designers stage
y1-YE31ffy4-00417-00105736-00106069 lighting Plaza
y1-YE31ffy4-00418-00106070-00106470 Ketil lighting design landscape lighting
y1-YE31ffy4-00419-00106471-00106846 master electrician
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00000-00000192-00000388 we've been talking generally about this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00001-00000389-00000755 idea of trying to force diversity of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00002-00000756-00000928 individual models within a larger
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00003-00000930-00001139 ensemble in a variety of different ways
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00004-00001140-00001295 and most recently we've been talking
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00005-00001296-00001553 about this random patch idea the terms
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00006-00001554-00001768 we've been using are bagging and pasting
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00007-00001769-00002099 and here for each individual model we we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00008-00002100-00002357 sample a subset of the available data in
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00009-00002358-00002591 order to train up the model one can also
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00010-00002592-00002842 cut the data in the other direction and
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00011-00002843-00003100 this is the random Subspace idea so here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00012-00003101-00003436 we present to a learning procedure only
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00013-00003438-00003713 a subset of the features and allow it to
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00014-00003714-00003959 to train up and then we go on to our
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00015-00003960-00004103 next model and we give it a different
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00016-00004104-00004319 subset of features what's nice is both
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00017-00004320-00004625 of these procedures are available within
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00018-00004626-00004865 the bagging classifier class so let's
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00019-00004866-00005020 take a look at what this looks like
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00020-00005021-00005141 visually
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00021-00005142-00005429 right so the the idea is that we have
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00022-00005430-00005813 some uh training data set uh X and this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00023-00005814-00006172 is a matrix that has uh some set of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00024-00006173-00006701 columns which are our features
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00025-00006702-00007183 and we might call those F zero F1 F2
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00026-00007184-00007559 F3 uh Etc
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00027-00007559-00008231 and down the rows we have our samples
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00028-00008232-00009173 so s0 S1 S2 S3 and on Down the Line
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00029-00009174-00009659 this bagging and pasting idea
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00030-00009660-00010073 what we might do for a particular model
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00031-00010074-00010289 for training a particular model is that
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00032-00010290-00010571 we might select this sample here we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00033-00010572-00010745 might select the sample here we might
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00034-00010746-00010991 pick a pair of samples down here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00035-00010992-00011321 and that becomes what's available for uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00036-00011322-00011627 training for that one model
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00037-00011628-00011891 the random Subspace idea is orthogonal
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00038-00011892-00011999 to this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00039-00012000-00012460 and what we imagine doing is for example
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00040-00012461-00012737 selecting for one particular model we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00041-00012738-00013013 might give it feature zero but skip
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00042-00013013-00013330 feature one and two uh and then give it
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00043-00013331-00013613 also feature three and give it uh some
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00044-00013613-00013894 some other features uh out over here so
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00045-00013895-00014051 as I said the the banking classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00046-00014052-00014351 supports both of these ideas and in fact
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00047-00014352-00014627 we can be trying we can use both of them
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00048-00014628-00014771 at the same time
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00049-00014772-00015088 so so at the intersection of these uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00050-00015090-00015497 these horizontal and vertical sets
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00051-00015497-00015785 let's choose a distinct color here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00052-00015786-00016121 so so we might have this data here this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00053-00016122-00016375 data here these data here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00054-00016376-00016775 and these here available for
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00055-00016776-00017141 uh for training
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00056-00017142-00017405 but no other features and and no other
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00057-00017406-00017633 samples and and these these two
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00058-00017634-00017789 different dimensions we can actually
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00059-00017790-00018041 select with the bagging classifier we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00060-00018042-00018461 can select how many features are going
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00061-00018462-00018653 to be used from one model to the next
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00062-00018654-00018917 and likewise we can also select how many
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00063-00018918-00019114 samples we're going to use
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00064-00019115-00019325 so the skeleton that I'm starting from
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00065-00019326-00019480 here this is available in the git
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00066-00019481-00019835 repository and we're coming back to our
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00067-00019836-00020111 baby data the the two-dimensional data
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00068-00020112-00020225 that we're working with with
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00069-00020226-00020477 classification uh ultimately that has
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00070-00020478-00020650 limitations when we start talking about
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00071-00020651-00020903 uh sub sampling the feature spaces uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00072-00020904-00021100 but the baby data is really right for
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00073-00021101-00021467 this idea so the the Imports are the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00074-00021468-00021730 same except uh we're going to be using
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00075-00021731-00022027 the uh the bagging classifier right here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00076-00022028-00022372 in some future uh in a future video
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00077-00022373-00022522 we're going to also be using the Ada
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00078-00022523-00022841 boost classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00079-00022842-00023099 uh the first few cells are standard
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00080-00023100-00023350 cells
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00081-00023351-00023680 I also have we you've seen this before I
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00082-00023681-00023941 have a function that plots probabilities
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00083-00023942-00024150 in this particular
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00084-00024151-00024503 example notebook I also have a plot time
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00085-00024504-00024839 series uh function and all it does is it
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00086-00024840-00025228 produces a a short example of what the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00087-00025229-00025486 probabilities are as a function of time
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00088-00025487-00025978 uh within the the data set
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00089-00025979-00026225 okay so loading up the data is the same
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00090-00026226-00026387 sort of data
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00091-00026388-00026662 creating our Pipelines
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00092-00026663-00027067 pulling out the data that we want
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00093-00027068-00027358 and creating our class labels this is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00094-00027360-00027677 the same the we're back to using this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00095-00027677-00028018 filtered data set idea recall that this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00096-00028019-00028301 is the case where for every positive
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00097-00028302-00028637 example of an onset of movement we're
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00098-00028638-00028901 also labeling the samples just ahead of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00099-00028902-00029237 it as positive examples and we're
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00100-00029238-00029512 censoring the data just after that event
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00101-00029513-00029752 because at that point the robot is in
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00102-00029754-00030023 motion and and that's going to cause the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00103-00030024-00030364 baby's Limbs and trunk to to move so we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00104-00030366-00030617 want to keep those out of the out of the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00105-00030618-00030923 decision-making process
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00106-00030924-00031217 okay and then uh this last cell right
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00107-00031218-00031390 here as we're getting ready to start
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00108-00031391-00031612 with our tree classifier recall that
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00109-00031613-00031907 we're uh just we're selecting just the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00110-00031908-00032314 samples that have not been uh censored
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00111-00032316-00032543 right so the first thing I want to do is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00112-00032544-00032735 uh just do a single decision tree
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00113-00032736-00033071 classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00114-00033072-00033317 and this will allow us to see what a
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00115-00033318-00033587 single decision tree is capable of uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00116-00033588-00033845 but then it'll also become a constituent
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00117-00033846-00034727 of a larger ensemble
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00118-00034728-00034943 and if you recall with the individual
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00119-00034944-00035359 decision trees
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00120-00035360-00035723 having a a number of leaf nodes on the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00121-00035724-00035933 order of about a hundred or so gives us
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00122-00035934-00036077 some of the better results that we're
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00123-00036078-00036418 able to uh achieve so they're us
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00124-00036419-00036671 creating that classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00125-00036672-00036851 except I have to spell classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00126-00036852-00037187 correctly
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00127-00037188-00037421 you've
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00128-00037422-00037702 Max Leaf nodes all right there we go
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00129-00037703-00037973 this is always the hazard of the live
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00130-00037974-00038111 demo here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00131-00038112-00038339 uh and then I'm handing this classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00132-00038340-00038543 to cross file predict so it's doing
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00133-00038544-00038965 10-fold cross validation for us
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00134-00038966-00039257 and that should come back relatively
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00135-00039258-00039533 quickly
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00136-00039534-00039971 I should also add that one can also set
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00137-00039972-00040283 n jobs at negative one here and that'll
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00138-00040284-00040733 actually use uh one core for every one
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00139-00040734-00040955 of the Cross validation runs
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00140-00040956-00041279 right so it's it's done
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00141-00041280-00041537 let's look at the probabilities here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00142-00041538-00041974 so there's our tpr and fpr plots
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00143-00041975-00042271 uh our log loss is pretty high
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00144-00042272-00042862 9.7 a area under the curve is 0.58
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00145-00042863-00043115 so there's our Roc curve there so so
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00146-00043116-00043327 there's a tiny bit of discrimination
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00147-00043328-00043577 discrimination capability here with this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00148-00043578-00043811 single decision tree it's not terribly
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00149-00043812-00043985 impressive
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00150-00043986-00044195 here we're using our our plot time
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00151-00044196-00044452 series function the plot you've seen
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00152-00044453-00044651 before it's just we're accessing it in a
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00153-00044652-00044980 different way what we want to see is is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00154-00044981-00045437 red on top here uh when the true label
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00155-00045438-00045767 is is high and we want to see green when
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00156-00045768-00046127 it's low and then this region here this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00157-00046128-00046343 is the the period of time that we've
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00158-00046344-00046529 actually censored from the data so so
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00159-00046530-00046745 we're ignoring what's inside of there
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00160-00046746-00047243 okay so so this classifier the single
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00161-00047244-00047555 decision tree with a hundred Leaf nodes
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00162-00047556-00048065 uh does okay uh it it's giving us some
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00163-00048066-00048239 capabilities but it's not doing all that
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00164-00048240-00048683 great and and we played uh earlier uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00165-00048684-00048905 within the set of videos and we could
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00166-00048906-00049055 squeak out a little bit more performance
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00167-00049056-00049307 if we push that number of leaf nodes up
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00168-00049308-00049583 to 200 but we're starting to get to some
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00169-00049584-00049774 pretty big decision trees when we get up
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00170-00049775-00050189 to these numbers
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00171-00050190-00050501 looking at this temporal plot here and
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00172-00050502-00050755 realizing that these Legend
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00173-00050756-00051143 elements have been swapped so I am going
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00174-00051144-00051388 to go and fix that in our function
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00175-00051389-00051940 so that it's a little bit more clear
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00176-00051941-00052282 so here's our plot Time series
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00177-00052283-00052565 uh I just need to swap movement and
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00178-00052566-00053141 other here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00179-00053141-00053303 okay
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00180-00053304-00053794 that makes me feel a little bit better
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00181-00053795-00053969 all right so we should be seeing
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00182-00053970-00054280 movement in when it's high and other uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00183-00054282-00054515 when it's slow okay so that's a single
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00184-00054516-00054737 decision tree and and now what we'd like
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00185-00054738-00054982 to do is play with the bagging
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00186-00054983-00055199 classifier we've already done some work
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00187-00055200-00055511 with the bagging classifier but uh now
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00188-00055512-00055829 we want to play with subspaces so just
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00189-00055829-00056200 to be clear one has to have a a base
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00190-00056201-00056675 classifier to work from
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00191-00056676-00056897 so there's that
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00192-00056898-00057130 and for fun I'm going to set this down
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00193-00057132-00057341 to just 10 Leaf nodes so it's a much
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00194-00057341-00057803 simpler decision tree
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00195-00057804-00058576 but let's build our begging classifier
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00196-00058577-00058788 and so there's our base classifier there
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00197-00058789-00059176 and estimators
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00198-00059177-00060275 let's set that to uh to 10 for now
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00199-00060276-00060737 now one for Mac samples uh one can
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00200-00060738-00060959 specify an integer number of samples
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00201-00060960-00061163 that you want to include or you can
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00202-00061164-00061330 specify a fraction of the available
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00203-00061332-00061619 samples and I think in our earlier work
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00204-00061620-00061729 we actually
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00205-00061729-00062075 uh we were actually specifying a total
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00206-00062076-00062219 number I'm going to start using
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00207-00062220-00062363 fractions here this is a little bit
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00208-00062364-00062765 easier to uh to think about
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00209-00062766-00063082 and we're going to set uh boot step
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00210-00063083-00063347 bootstrap to True which means that we're
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00211-00063348-00063719 sampling with replacement
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00212-00063720-00063959 and Max features again we can specify an
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00213-00063960-00064361 integer or we can specify a fraction and
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00214-00064362-00064661 I'm going to say let's give each
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00215-00064662-00064919 individual model half the available
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00216-00064920-00065194 samples and and half of the available
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00217-00065195-00065597 features
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00218-00065598-00065921 and one can set in jobs here I'm
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00219-00065922-00066100 actually going to set n jobs in The Next
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00220-00066101-00066923 Step here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00221-00066924-00067097 okay so there we go so now we're doing
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00222-00067098-00067282 our cross validation
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00223-00067283-00067432 um while it's doing that let me flip
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00224-00067433-00067817 over to my shell if you execute top of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00225-00067818-00068069 course you can't really do this on your
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00226-00068070-00068321 uh on your virtual machines but if
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00227-00068322-00068519 you're working on your laptop you can
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00228-00068520-00068717 actually see all of the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00229-00068718-00069005 uh the processes that are executing it's
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00230-00069006-00069113 actually done
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00231-00069114-00069413 Computing so we'll come back and look at
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00232-00069414-00069959 that here in a moment
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00233-00069960-00070369 so there's our probabilities
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00234-00070370-00070888 uh so log loss is 0.96 so that's changed
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00235-00070889-00071188 by an order of magnitude but our AUC has
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00236-00071189-00071356 not really changed all that much so
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00237-00071357-00071759 there's our TPU tpr and fpr and there's
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00238-00071760-00072232 our Roc curve not
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00239-00072233-00072623 not terribly impressive and here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00240-00072624-00073097 is our prediction Set uh it's we're
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00241-00073098-00073331 seeing Reds very high most of the time
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00242-00073332-00073967 which is not particularly helpful
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00243-00073968-00074381 okay so so this is just a start
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00244-00074382-00074741 um we can we can start playing with uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00245-00074742-00074950 uh number of samples and number of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00246-00074951-00075137 features I'm going to start pushing this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00247-00075138-00075323 down a bit
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00248-00075324-00075605 set it down to cut it down to a quarter
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00249-00075606-00075947 of the available samples and let's try
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00250-00075948-00076171 to five here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00251-00076172-00076588 and let's bump up estimators by a factor
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00252-00076589-00076871 of two and and here I'm doing very early
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00253-00076872-00077171 data exploration in the larger scenario
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00254-00077172-00077441 you'll actually be doing a grid search
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00255-00077442-00077855 with some of these parameters
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00256-00077856-00078035 okay so that should take a little bit
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00257-00078036-00078329 longer to execute actually it went
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00258-00078330-00078629 really quickly
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00259-00078630-00078994 so there's our probabilities our log
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00260-00078995-00079271 loss has dropped again and our AUC has
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00261-00079272-00079565 now come up to something uh a bit more
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00262-00079566-00079829 interesting not it isn't fantastic but
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00263-00079830-00080273 it is getting better our Roc curve has
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00264-00080274-00080579 gotten a little bit better as well
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00265-00080580-00080819 okay so that gives us uh something to
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00266-00080820-00081226 work with let's push uh our n estimators
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00267-00081227-00081449 I'd like to go ahead and push that up to
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00268-00081450-00081611 a hundred we'll leave everything else
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00269-00081612-00081797 the same this time it'll take a little
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00270-00081798-00082019 bit longer to to execute crossbow
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00271-00082020-00082271 predict but it actually is so it's about
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00272-00082272-00082421 five times as long
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00273-00082422-00082679 uh performance hasn't really changed at
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00274-00082680-00083015 all in this particular case the AUC is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00275-00083016-00083279 still 0.6 it's dropped a tiny bit but
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00276-00083280-00083597 not really a significant amount
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00277-00083598-00083855 all right so let's keep working on this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00278-00083856-00084094 uh what I'd like to do is cut this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00279-00084095-00084376 essentially by a factor of two just to
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00280-00084377-00084526 see what happens so we're going to cut
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00281-00084527-00084941 ourselves down to uh 10 of the available
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00282-00084942-00085187 features remember that we have a fair
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y5rBtx4Y9MY-00284-00085386-00085541 this will actually execute a little bit
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00285-00085542-00085799 faster because the decision tree
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00286-00085800-00085979 algorithm has fewer features to actually
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00287-00085980-00086315 consider at any one step
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00288-00086316-00086705 okay so log loss has dropped some
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00289-00086706-00087059 uh however our AUC has not really
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00290-00087060-00087287 changed all that much and that's that's
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00291-00087288-00087491 really the one that we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00292-00087492-00087893 want to uh to get to push down
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00293-00087894-00088188 let's try for fun let's try making
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00294-00088189-00088565 increasing the complexity of the models
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00295-00088566-00088762 so we're going to double that which
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00296-00088763-00088931 means we're going to increase the amount
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00297-00088932-00089203 of work that has to be done
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00298-00089204-00089603 still training is going faster
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00299-00089604-00089831 uh log loss has increased a little bit
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00300-00089832-00090209 but notice that our AUC has uh has
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00301-00090210-00090388 increased a bit too so that so that's
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00302-00090389-00090706 good that chaos distance also is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00303-00090707-00090976 starting to uh increase
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00304-00090977-00091409 and notice with our Roc curve now we're
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00305-00091410-00091661 just barely dipping down below that that
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00306-00091662-00091835 red dashed line
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00307-00091836-00092087 so that so that gives us some hope
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00308-00092088-00092399 since we improve things by uh changing
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00309-00092400-00092603 our Max Leaf nodes let's increase that
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00310-00092604-00092843 again I'm going to flip that up to 50.
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00311-00092844-00093059 that still is executing awfully fast
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00312-00093060-00093388 there our AUC has now increased a little
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00313-00093389-00093599 bit more so that's so that's a good
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00314-00093600-00094200 place to be in
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00315-00094201-00094523 and let's see if getting up to 100 helps
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00316-00094524-00094673 even more
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00317-00094674-00094900 I'm going to flip over to my top and
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00318-00094901-00095106 you'll notice that there's a row here
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00319-00095107-00095375 that says Python 3 in a bunch of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00320-00095376-00095567 different places those are the different
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00321-00095568-00095885 parallel cores that are executing the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00322-00095886-00096094 different cross validation runs but they
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00323-00096095-00096275 disappeared relatively quickly since we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00324-00096276-00096468 uh finished executing that pretty quick
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00325-00096469-00096749 notice that our log loss hasn't changed
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00326-00096750-00096994 all that much but our AUC actually has
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00327-00096995-00097318 gotten up to 0.7 so this is uh better
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00328-00097319-00097606 than we've been able to do with uh some
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00329-00097607-00097799 of our other uh with any of our other
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00330-00097800-00098050 modeling approaches so far
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00331-00098051-00098399 and there is our Roc curve and notice
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00332-00098400-00098656 now it does not dip below that uh red
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00333-00098657-00098885 dashed line at all so that's so that's
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00334-00098886-00099287 nice
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00335-00099288-00099565 there's our uh time series
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00336-00099566-00099821 The really the thing that sticks out to
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00337-00099822-00100126 me here is that any time that uh we
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00338-00100127-00100409 should have a positive label the red is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00339-00100410-00100529 spiking up
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00340-00100530-00100721 uh upwards
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00341-00100722-00101015 so so that's uh promising uh over in
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00342-00101016-00101237 this region here though even though the
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00343-00101238-00101597 label should be uh it should be low uh
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00344-00101598-00101915 red is is still being a bit uh too high
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00345-00101916-00102179 so so there are places where it feels
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00346-00102180-00102341 like it's doing the right thing green
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00347-00102342-00102532 certainly isn't getting above red but
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00348-00102533-00102773 that's okay we can change our decision
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00349-00102774-00103132 threshold uh as as need be but this
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00350-00103133-00103439 trend of this very quick increase right
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00351-00103440-00103732 as it should be labeling as positive
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00352-00103733-00104063 that that is uh promising in my mind
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00353-00104064-00104494 okay so uh this performance uh we we can
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00354-00104495-00104860 keep uh playing with with this uh one
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00355-00104861-00105125 thing you might consider trying is is
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00356-00105126-00105436 playing with an estimator some you can
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00357-00105438-00105749 play with the sensitivity here uh of Mac
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00358-00105750-00105977 samples and Max features at some point
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00359-00105978-00106157 Max features if you push that down
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00360-00106158-00106384 another couple of factors of two you
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00361-00106385-00106516 start to get to get down to the point
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00362-00106517-00106660 where you're only including a couple
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00363-00106661-00106877 features in your your decision trees and
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00364-00106878-00107099 those are not terribly interesting cases
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00365-00107100-00107284 and then so performance will start to
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00366-00107285-00107573 drop off but I encourage you to spend a
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00367-00107574-00107734 few minutes and play with some of these
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00368-00107735-00107939 different options just to get a sense of
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00369-00107940-00108131 where the right set of parameters might
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00370-00108132-00108466 be and and once one does that uh using
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00371-00108467-00108743 validation data of course then one will
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00372-00108744-00109066 engage in a proper grid search
y5rBtx4Y9MY-00373-00109067-00109349 all right so this is our quick example
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y5rBtx4Y9MY-00376-00110016-00110207 samples but also sub-sampling the
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y9fZ9mmfXPc-00017-00008372-00008587 see you guys tomorrow you already know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00018-00008588-00008908 we bout to make history I keep
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00019-00008909-00009066 forgetting this is like live Santa it's
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00020-00009067-00009332 goin
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00021-00009333-00009563 that was me just plugging myself in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00022-00009564-00010177 right there
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00023-00010178-00010889 thanks man yeah
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00024-00010890-00011120 Thank You Manish it was [__] fun and
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00025-00011121-00011642 [__]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00026-00011643-00013206 what up I'm all right what did you do do
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00027-00013207-00013413 a chocolate oxy oh yeah you already know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00028-00013413-00013635 oh yeah I'm gonna get on his head about
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00029-00013636-00013800 all that music [__] he said to me hold
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00030-00013801-00013883 on
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00031-00013884-00014118 we'll be back one second let me just go
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00032-00014119-00014547 grab this four oxen anyway is he even in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00033-00014547-00015441 there damn they got another show going
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00034-00015441-00016287 on around now man Big Dawg let's do it
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00035-00016288-00016455 yeah yeah you think I could go grab the
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00036-00016456-00016973 homie I think he's still hiding in I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00037-00016974-00017514 think you know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00038-00017515-00017701 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00039-00017702-00018024 I know I'm here to get one of my friends
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00040-00018025-00018312 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00041-00018313-00019535 oh yeah thank you sir
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00042-00019536-00019818 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00043-00019819-00020032 might be over here
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00044-00020033-00021409 I think oxy hey how do I get back up
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00045-00021410-00021718 there how do I get back up from the way
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00046-00021719-00022086 we came in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00047-00022087-00022300 because I think one of the artists is
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00048-00022301-00022432 still up there go to that door right
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00049-00022433-00022585 over there over there go back right
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00050-00022586-00022753 there
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00051-00022754-00023373 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00052-00023374-00023916 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00053-00023917-00024263 where you are oxymoron
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00054-00024264-00024745 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00055-00024746-00024966 Oh
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00056-00024967-00025364 [Applause]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00057-00025365-00025617 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00058-00025618-00025915 okay this is not the way I wanted to go
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00059-00025916-00026593 god damn oh [__]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00060-00026594-00026995 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00061-00026997-00027342 y'all trying to find cuz I don't know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00062-00027343-00027511 where the [__] to go
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00063-00027512-00028760 [Music]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00064-00028761-00029437 oh there he is
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00065-00029438-00030692 god damn I found them oh yeah yeah we
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00066-00030693-00030892 gotta translate this [__] alright look
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00067-00030893-00031130 let's be I'm never on periscope this is
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00068-00031131-00031396 an exception what's up
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00069-00031397-00031558 why don't you do periscope acres they'll
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00070-00031559-00032111 [__] Christ Billy fans we actually
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00071-00032112-00032530 did it hey you did it nah I do this [__]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00072-00032531-00032755 every day
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00073-00032756-00033092 yeah we got a real new battler in the
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00074-00033093-00033386 game bro new American English beam
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00075-00033387-00033730 battle eqd litter hey like hey let's
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00076-00033731-00033937 listen yeah I'm gonna see if this is one
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00077-00033938-00034058 of the best nights on my life
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00078-00034059-00034430 I Love You Man cool man it's you know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00079-00034431-00034651 you said you surprised me everybody bro
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00080-00034652-00034808 [__] everybody's proud of you over
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00081-00034809-00034967 here all your Russian fans I was talking
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00082-00034968-00035077 to everybody outside they're like my
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00083-00035078-00035249 fans team now and everybody loves you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00084-00035250-00035836 bro people are just happy - really good
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00085-00035837-00036368 that third round [__] with me man you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00086-00036369-00036595 got me on that third round bro oh my god
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00087-00036596-00036805 you know everyone you know it's so crazy
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00088-00036806-00036968 so like I'm working on the project that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00089-00036969-00037118 I want to put out so when I was telling
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00090-00037119-00037289 hollow that [__] and I was just like oh
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00091-00037290-00037501 you don't got music I was supposed to
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00092-00037502-00037696 have the project ready by that battle so
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00093-00037697-00037880 I could say that right right so I could
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00094-00037881-00038126 have the music out and I [__] that up
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00095-00038127-00038348 and you fit into my [__] and I knew I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00096-00038349-00038614 was thinking like holy [__] if anybody
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00097-00038615-00038780 might mention it it might be a guy
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00098-00038781-00038965 that's a successful artist might be
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00099-00038966-00039110 catch that and I was like nah he's not
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00100-00039111-00039305 gonna watch all those battles he's not
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00101-00039306-00039785 gonna catch that and he caught it I love
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00102-00039786-00039935 to everyone my love to everyone
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00103-00039936-00040376 historical [__] oh my god this dream I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00104-00040377-00040639 can't believe I forgot that she's Gaea
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00105-00040640-00040907 it's that Aegis guy up to my eyes that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00106-00040908-00040999 he should get mad
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00107-00041000-00041201 yo your Russian was good man I just
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00108-00041202-00041320 thought you know gonna [__] my mother
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00109-00041321-00041524 what the [__] oh yeah sorry about that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00110-00041525-00041735 you know what I don't work that's why I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00111-00041736-00041876 brought the Vegas line alright like
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00112-00041877-00041981 first it was supposed
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00113-00041982-00042113 in the first round I skipped it I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00114-00042114-00042254 thought it was too hot cool because the
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00115-00042255-00042395 first round was too friendly
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00116-00042396-00042584 yeah and I put it back cuz you started
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00117-00042585-00042710 going with the heat you know the thing
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00118-00042711-00042914 is I think Russians always think like in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00119-00042915-00043127 a very vulgar way and I have very vulgar
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00120-00043128-00043355 Russian friends so after like coming up
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00121-00043356-00043652 with the shooter look I can't [__]
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00122-00043653-00043826 complain I brought to my my hopes go to
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00123-00043827-00043955 Russia
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00124-00043956-00044240 now the respect arts especially is that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00125-00044241-00044495 you know we it's it's a real friendship
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00126-00044496-00044642 thing this battle rap when you and the
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00127-00044643-00044897 ring all you know all goes but we really
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00128-00044898-00045086 didn't disrespect each well the thing is
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00129-00045087-00045248 like some people actually doubt that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00130-00045249-00045440 this was a real battle when you said we
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00131-00045441-00045686 were facetiming they were like so maybe
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00132-00045687-00045884 this is a rehearsed battle no first
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00133-00045885-00046124 let's tell them the only thing we talked
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00134-00046125-00046310 about was like actually they're not
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00135-00046311-00046988 [__] the mothers no English first of
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00136-00046989-00047252 all you got a dose up if I could get
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00137-00047253-00047435 some Russian words I'm going with
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00138-00047436-00047681 whatever I can get I ain't about to fix
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00139-00047682-00047855 nothing did I say the same [__] in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00140-00047856-00048170 Arabic as I said what right yeah you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00141-00048171-00048314 don't say the same [__] now you said
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00142-00048315-00048551 because I said I leafy kissy [__] yeah
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00143-00048552-00048905 so that's like [__] your sister yeah you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00144-00048906-00049115 know what's so crazy is kiss epic in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00145-00049116-00049283 Arabic like if you say that in the
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00146-00049284-00049997 street it's automatic I think all
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00147-00049998-00050195 cultures are really like that because
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00148-00050196-00050336 the thing is is that it's a difference
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00149-00050337-00050489 like in America we kind of just do like
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00150-00050490-00050675 [__] your mom oh yeah [__] and
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00151-00050676-00050924 somebody will different when you travel
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00152-00050925-00051077 to other countries and places in the
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00153-00051078-00051346 world like Lebanon and Russia you know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00154-00051347-00051508 the same like hundred I'm talking about
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00155-00051509-00051770 someone's mom or sister it's over gee
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00156-00051771-00051911 those are the ones off let me you can
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00157-00051912-00052070 talk about someone's brother or dad it
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00158-00052071-00052319 doesn't matter and if you go like Mama's
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00159-00052320-00052624 sister yeah that's not as we say mother
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00160-00052625-00052871 it's like off limits and I actually
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00161-00052872-00053155 never [__] anyone's actual mother in
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00162-00053157-00053477 my lyrics own honest I'ma be honest shut
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00163-00053478-00053675 up I said it in my lyrics and in real
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00164-00053676-00054116 life I [__] a lot of hypothetical
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00165-00054116-00054538 theoretical mothers okay
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00166-00054539-00054865 like you can't do that anyone to his
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00167-00054866-00055131 face I'll [__] you mother you ever you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00168-00055132-00055431 know race like nah no no no I get that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00169-00055432-00055735 listen this battle I'm just so happy man
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00170-00055736-00055905 I'm happy I didn't forget [__] you know
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00171-00055907-00056128 it's writing two days ago
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00172-00056129-00056425 like actually LA I just you just let you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00173-00056426-00056613 know what the only ship that I kind of
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00174-00056614-00056794 like in the third round I started like
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00175-00056795-00056935 kind of forgetting [__] but it's because
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00176-00056936-00057124 I went into the Russian she and I got so
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00177-00057125-00057328 lost in a did you forget some boss yeah
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00178-00057329-00057492 it's just in the Russian part like I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00179-00057494-00057703 just because it was hard to remember all
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00180-00057704-00057900 the Russians yeah cuz I even [__] up
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00181-00057901-00058060 like the piece Disney mala
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00182-00058061-00058332 Zachary vallah but I didn't say Zachary
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00183-00058333-00058573 Bala right I said something else and
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00184-00058574-00058837 it's like you're throttled vol I'm sorry
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00185-00058838-00059275 so yeah I love this guy but yeah like it
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00186-00059276-00059659 was really I had some [__] about you
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00187-00059660-00059812 when I talked about the music I'd like
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00188-00059813-00060051 because there's a lot of Arabs with some
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00189-00060052-00060322 crazy talent you have French rappers
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00190-00060323-00060523 belly and Khaled French Montana
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00191-00060524-00060772 this [__] is therapeutic forget a rebel
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00192-00060773-00061269 you make some a rap music yeah no that's
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00193-00061270-00061447 actually I don't have some other [__] is
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00194-00061448-00061742 [__] it is B it was so epic man I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00195-00061744-00061975 know you know one thing that people for
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00196-00061976-00062091 me don't understand it was so hard to
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00197-00062092-00062275 breathe in that [__] it was like
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00198-00062276-00062457 it was literally like being in a sauna
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00199-00062458-00062691 fat I always say I think I can't I was
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00200-00062692-00062793 bitching about it too much
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00201-00062794-00062971 I always forget when the cameras are on
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00202-00062972-00063225 to stop doing that [__] cuz I was up
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00203-00063226-00063349 there like y'all I can't breathe I can't
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00204-00063350-00063523 breathe I can't breathe I remembered I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00205-00063524-00063675 kept saying it and I'm pretty sure he's
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00206-00063676-00063966 gonna pick it up on the mic like that
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00207-00063967-00064155 vent the vent [__] they had it but it
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00208-00064157-00064825 was too weak man yeah yeah that [__] was
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00209-00064826-00065067 crazy in there obviously the reactions
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00210-00065069-00065743 of the crowd respect to the Russians man
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00211-00065744-00066103 no you guys are awesome okay it was
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00212-00066104-00066412 laughing yeah what was the bar that I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00213-00066413-00066562 was saying why does everybody have to
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00214-00066563-00066853 battle of the bar of the battle against
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00215-00066854-00067081 me could you hear me saying yes after
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00216-00067082-00067380 the oh you mad cuz I'm Joseph yes that's
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00217-00067381-00067516 what it was we were trying to remember
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00218-00067517-00067729 it outside you'll be a [__] Haim I
y9fZ9mmfXPc-00219-00067730-00067969 was
yqbZBHNdESE-00000-00000961-00002753 don't you touch it touches
yqbZBHNdESE-00001-00002754-00003311 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00002-00003313-00004631 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00003-00004632-00004962 touchy
yqbZBHNdESE-00004-00004963-00005363 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00005-00005364-00005758 is
yqbZBHNdESE-00006-00005759-00006047 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00007-00006048-00006411 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00008-00006412-00008599 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00009-00008600-00008887 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00010-00008888-00009097 over here
yqbZBHNdESE-00011-00009098-00009642 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00012-00009643-00010282 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00013-00010283-00010535 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00014-00010536-00010877 sister
yqbZBHNdESE-00015-00010878-00012510 is
yqbZBHNdESE-00016-00012511-00014762 the University
yqbZBHNdESE-00017-00014763-00015656 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00018-00015657-00016108 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00019-00016109-00016579 it's been a classic
yqbZBHNdESE-00020-00016580-00017284 huh yeah
yqbZBHNdESE-00021-00017285-00018212 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00022-00018213-00018739 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00023-00018740-00019236 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00024-00019237-00019421 for now
yqbZBHNdESE-00025-00019422-00021900 ready
yqbZBHNdESE-00026-00021901-00022403 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00027-00022404-00022806 Wake Island
yqbZBHNdESE-00028-00022807-00022985 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00029-00022986-00023296 beautiful
yqbZBHNdESE-00030-00023297-00024558 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00031-00024559-00025159 one that is
yqbZBHNdESE-00032-00025160-00025713 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00034-00028808-00029002 sit down
yqbZBHNdESE-00035-00029004-00030064 here
yqbZBHNdESE-00036-00030066-00030214 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00037-00030216-00030691 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00038-00030692-00033178 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00039-00033179-00033815 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00040-00033816-00036453 Tanzania
yqbZBHNdESE-00041-00036454-00036671 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00042-00036672-00039179 Yamin
yqbZBHNdESE-00043-00039180-00042161 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00044-00042162-00042718 Elizabeth
yqbZBHNdESE-00046-00046931-00049051 Nissan
yqbZBHNdESE-00047-00049052-00050202 which is foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00048-00050203-00050501 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00049-00050502-00053204 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00050-00053204-00053435 [Applause]
yqbZBHNdESE-00051-00053436-00054335 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00052-00054336-00057175 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00053-00057176-00057700 touch me
yqbZBHNdESE-00054-00057701-00058637 um
yqbZBHNdESE-00055-00058638-00059009 IA
yqbZBHNdESE-00056-00059010-00061247 Pacific
yqbZBHNdESE-00057-00061248-00061649 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00059-00064751-00065494 really
yqbZBHNdESE-00060-00065495-00066626 while we charge a while
yqbZBHNdESE-00061-00066627-00066797 [Music]
yqbZBHNdESE-00062-00066798-00067871 foreign
yqbZBHNdESE-00064-00070907-00072607 salsa
yqbZBHNdESE-00065-00072608-00072920 [Applause]
yrmFdusbZ0E-00000-00000000-00001119 [Music]
yrmFdusbZ0E-00001-00001120-00001626 above the sky beneath the sea
yrmFdusbZ0E-00002-00001627-00001759 [Music]
yrmFdusbZ0E-00003-00001760-00002110 hiding in the space i lost in our
yrmFdusbZ0E-00004-00002111-00002447 destiny
yrmFdusbZ0E-00005-00002448-00003087 believe in me and be with me
yrmFdusbZ0E-00006-00003088-00003551 but everything's meant to be
yrmFdusbZ0E-00007-00003552-00003943 i've seen people come and go within a
yrmFdusbZ0E-00008-00003944-00004254 broken dream
yrmFdusbZ0E-00009-00004255-00004535 when the stars are gone the night is
yrmFdusbZ0E-00010-00004536-00004751 cold being so
yrmFdusbZ0E-00011-00004752-00004879 lonely
yrmFdusbZ0E-00012-00004880-00005270 but if it's my only chance
yrmFdusbZ0E-00013-00005271-00005686 to catch you in this tiny life the world
yrmFdusbZ0E-00014-00005687-00006206 on fire and i hold you tight
yrmFdusbZ0E-00015-00006207-00006414 till the end of
yrmFdusbZ0E-00016-00006415-00006631 the time
yrmFdusbZ0E-00017-00006631-00007087 none of us will say goodbye and my love
yrmFdusbZ0E-00018-00007088-00007144 will
yrmFdusbZ0E-00019-00007145-00007919 [Applause]
yrmFdusbZ0E-00020-00007920-00008303 don't you sleep with a broken dream
yrmFdusbZ0E-00021-00008304-00008851 where
yrmFdusbZ0E-00022-00008852-00009169 everything's less of me
yrmFdusbZ0E-00023-00009170-00010455 [Music]
yrmFdusbZ0E-00024-00010456-00010964 through the fire and through the time
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yt09H_hrvPE-00000-00000583-00000807 good morning everyone welcome to today's
yt09H_hrvPE-00001-00000808-00001007 webinar climbing the ransomware maturity
yt09H_hrvPE-00002-00001008-00001311 model with dr ed amoroso and tim erlin
yt09H_hrvPE-00003-00001312-00001543 i'm liz fox marketing events manager at
yt09H_hrvPE-00004-00001544-00001710 tripwire and i'm excited to be part of
yt09H_hrvPE-00005-00001711-00001847 today's event
yt09H_hrvPE-00006-00001848-00002030 before we start i'd like to go over a
yt09H_hrvPE-00007-00002032-00002199 few housekeeping items
yt09H_hrvPE-00008-00002200-00002350 you'll notice there are several widgets
yt09H_hrvPE-00009-00002351-00002542 at the bottom of the screen here you can
yt09H_hrvPE-00010-00002543-00002758 download resources view speaker bios and
yt09H_hrvPE-00011-00002759-00003023 submit questions for our q a section our
yt09H_hrvPE-00012-00003024-00003175 speakers will remain on the line to
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yt09H_hrvPE-00014-00003344-00003454 the webinar
yt09H_hrvPE-00015-00003455-00003590 if you're experiencing technical
yt09H_hrvPE-00016-00003592-00003775 difficulties please click on the help
yt09H_hrvPE-00017-00003776-00003967 widget we'll also be sending out a
yt09H_hrvPE-00018-00003968-00004151 follow-up email today with a link to the
yt09H_hrvPE-00019-00004152-00004343 on-demand webcast and the slides at the
yt09H_hrvPE-00020-00004344-00004519 conclusion of the webinar
yt09H_hrvPE-00021-00004520-00004719 so now let's get on with the event take
yt09H_hrvPE-00022-00004720-00004935 it away tim
yt09H_hrvPE-00023-00004936-00005159 thank you liz and welcome everyone to
yt09H_hrvPE-00024-00005160-00005422 this webinar um today i'm joined with uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00025-00005423-00005702 joined by ed amoroso who is the ceo of
yt09H_hrvPE-00026-00005703-00005975 tag cyber uh research professor at nyu
yt09H_hrvPE-00027-00005976-00006279 and the former cso at atnt
yt09H_hrvPE-00028-00006280-00006439 um ed has a whole bunch of other
yt09H_hrvPE-00029-00006440-00006614 accolades but those are the the most
yt09H_hrvPE-00030-00006615-00006846 important i think for for this forum uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00031-00006847-00006991 welcome ed
yt09H_hrvPE-00032-00006992-00007167 it's nice to see you tim i'm looking
yt09H_hrvPE-00033-00007168-00007383 forward to our discussion today
yt09H_hrvPE-00034-00007384-00007567 yeah me as well i think it's an
yt09H_hrvPE-00035-00007568-00007734 important topic and certainly a timely
yt09H_hrvPE-00036-00007736-00007870 one given the
yt09H_hrvPE-00037-00007872-00007998 you know sort of the incident and threat
yt09H_hrvPE-00038-00008000-00008278 environment that we've seen um so
yt09H_hrvPE-00039-00008279-00008439 as you you don't need to guess because
yt09H_hrvPE-00040-00008440-00008631 it's the the title of the webinar we're
yt09H_hrvPE-00041-00008632-00008823 here to talk about ransomware and
yt09H_hrvPE-00042-00008824-00008959 specifically
yt09H_hrvPE-00043-00008960-00009255 i wanted to address this conversation
yt09H_hrvPE-00044-00009256-00009503 towards uh the idea that there isn't
yt09H_hrvPE-00045-00009504-00009646 sort of one
yt09H_hrvPE-00046-00009647-00009910 specific right way to address ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00047-00009911-00010110 and think about it more in terms of a
yt09H_hrvPE-00048-00010111-00010327 maturity curve that organizations can
yt09H_hrvPE-00049-00010328-00010559 climb because not every organization is
yt09H_hrvPE-00050-00010560-00010814 at the same place in terms of their
yt09H_hrvPE-00051-00010815-00011031 ability or willingness or resources in
yt09H_hrvPE-00052-00011032-00011310 order to address ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00053-00011311-00011455 but before we get into that that sort of
yt09H_hrvPE-00054-00011456-00011710 maturity curve i thought it would be a
yt09H_hrvPE-00055-00011711-00011951 little bit fun and also interesting uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00056-00011952-00012255 to start with some common myths around
yt09H_hrvPE-00057-00012256-00012478 ransomware um and ed i think you're in a
yt09H_hrvPE-00058-00012479-00012631 great position to to talk a little bit
yt09H_hrvPE-00059-00012632-00012846 about myths that you see
yt09H_hrvPE-00060-00012847-00013063 um out there in the in the industry in
yt09H_hrvPE-00061-00013063-00013247 organizations that that people believe
yt09H_hrvPE-00062-00013247-00013375 that that really aren't true about
yt09H_hrvPE-00063-00013376-00013679 ransomware so let's start with that ed
yt09H_hrvPE-00064-00013680-00013966 well for people listening i'm guessing
yt09H_hrvPE-00065-00013968-00014158 that a lot of you are briefing your
yt09H_hrvPE-00066-00014159-00014486 management your board your supervisor
yt09H_hrvPE-00067-00014487-00014766 and customers whomever
yt09H_hrvPE-00068-00014768-00014958 and one of the first questions that gets
yt09H_hrvPE-00069-00014959-00015094 asked is you know tell me about
yt09H_hrvPE-00070-00015095-00015263 ransomware what's the issue what are the
yt09H_hrvPE-00071-00015263-00015366 problems
yt09H_hrvPE-00072-00015368-00015447 and
yt09H_hrvPE-00073-00015447-00015663 you know tim and i were kind of going
yt09H_hrvPE-00074-00015663-00015775 through
yt09H_hrvPE-00075-00015776-00015966 our own experiences here and there's a
yt09H_hrvPE-00076-00015968-00016199 few things that pop up a lot
yt09H_hrvPE-00077-00016200-00016407 that are almost implicit in the question
yt09H_hrvPE-00078-00016408-00016622 someone might ask you about ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00079-00016623-00016839 or some presumption that they have that
yt09H_hrvPE-00080-00016840-00017015 i think you can correct and that we'll
yt09H_hrvPE-00081-00017016-00017222 list up maybe two or three of them the
yt09H_hrvPE-00082-00017223-00017350 first one
yt09H_hrvPE-00083-00017351-00017535 is this idea that ransomware's this
yt09H_hrvPE-00084-00017536-00017694 inevitable thing like there's no way you
yt09H_hrvPE-00085-00017695-00017903 can stop it it's gonna happen
yt09H_hrvPE-00086-00017904-00018167 um it's just a matter of like uh doing
yt09H_hrvPE-00087-00018168-00018358 ransomware detection response i'm
yt09H_hrvPE-00088-00018359-00018519 surprised we don't have
yt09H_hrvPE-00089-00018520-00018855 companies with rd rdr as their name you
yt09H_hrvPE-00090-00018856-00019103 know ransomware detection response maybe
yt09H_hrvPE-00091-00019104-00019230 that's coming
yt09H_hrvPE-00092-00019231-00019350 but it might be
yt09H_hrvPE-00093-00019351-00019703 it might be but i i think it's wrong
yt09H_hrvPE-00094-00019704-00020030 to just throw in the towel and presume
yt09H_hrvPE-00095-00020031-00020222 that you're not going to be able to stop
yt09H_hrvPE-00096-00020223-00020422 ransomware there's some techniques that
yt09H_hrvPE-00097-00020423-00020678 you can you can use to prevent it
yt09H_hrvPE-00098-00020679-00020950 admittedly this is a tough attack that's
yt09H_hrvPE-00099-00020951-00021119 the reason why there's so much attention
yt09H_hrvPE-00100-00021120-00021463 on this including our webinar today
yt09H_hrvPE-00101-00021464-00021711 but hopefully as we talk today
yt09H_hrvPE-00102-00021712-00021847 as you listen
yt09H_hrvPE-00103-00021848-00022022 uh you may come up with some ideas or
yt09H_hrvPE-00104-00022023-00022230 some things that you'll see
yt09H_hrvPE-00105-00022231-00022422 that maybe you hadn't thought of before
yt09H_hrvPE-00106-00022423-00022630 that could actually be more on the shift
yt09H_hrvPE-00107-00022631-00022855 left side of the spectrum
yt09H_hrvPE-00108-00022856-00023039 then shift right tim before i get to the
yt09H_hrvPE-00109-00023040-00023222 other two that first one makes sense to
yt09H_hrvPE-00110-00023223-00023430 you yeah and i i think that's actually
yt09H_hrvPE-00111-00023431-00023550 incredibly
yt09H_hrvPE-00112-00023551-00023742 important for people to keep in mind as
yt09H_hrvPE-00113-00023743-00023927 a as a myth because the
yt09H_hrvPE-00114-00023928-00024039 the narrative
yt09H_hrvPE-00115-00024040-00024135 um
yt09H_hrvPE-00116-00024136-00024278 in the press
yt09H_hrvPE-00117-00024279-00024486 uh and in the industry in general is
yt09H_hrvPE-00118-00024487-00024694 this idea that that ransomware is
yt09H_hrvPE-00119-00024695-00024863 somehow inevitable
yt09H_hrvPE-00120-00024864-00025055 because of course it's difficult if not
yt09H_hrvPE-00121-00025056-00025278 impossible to report on ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00122-00025279-00025471 incidents that don't occur
yt09H_hrvPE-00123-00025472-00025606 um and
yt09H_hrvPE-00124-00025607-00025911 ransomware you know as a as a as a
yt09H_hrvPE-00125-00025912-00026143 technique has to announce itself in
yt09H_hrvPE-00126-00026144-00026367 order to be successful it has to ask for
yt09H_hrvPE-00127-00026368-00026527 ransom so
yt09H_hrvPE-00128-00026527-00026670 if you're
yt09H_hrvPE-00129-00026672-00026927 if you're writing uh you know for the
yt09H_hrvPE-00130-00026927-00027095 the cyber security industry ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00131-00027095-00027407 is a a great um
yt09H_hrvPE-00132-00027408-00027599 type of attack because it will always be
yt09H_hrvPE-00133-00027600-00027743 discovered eventually and that gives you
yt09H_hrvPE-00134-00027744-00027918 something to report on but it does
yt09H_hrvPE-00135-00027919-00028095 create this atmosphere of of sort of
yt09H_hrvPE-00136-00028095-00028295 inevitability which i think i think it
yt09H_hrvPE-00137-00028295-00028527 impacts how we as as practitioners you
yt09H_hrvPE-00138-00028527-00028662 know choose to respond so it's an
yt09H_hrvPE-00139-00028663-00028911 important myth for us to to dispel
yt09H_hrvPE-00140-00028912-00029087 yeah i think so
yt09H_hrvPE-00141-00029088-00029246 now the second one
yt09H_hrvPE-00142-00029247-00029495 is probably very familiar to the people
yt09H_hrvPE-00143-00029495-00029646 who are listening and that's around
yt09H_hrvPE-00144-00029647-00029895 backups because um i can't tell you how
yt09H_hrvPE-00145-00029895-00030102 many times i've heard and i know tim has
yt09H_hrvPE-00146-00030103-00030199 as well
yt09H_hrvPE-00147-00030200-00030455 um a discussion say with the cio or
yt09H_hrvPE-00148-00030456-00030631 director of infrastructure or security
yt09H_hrvPE-00149-00030632-00030870 person where you say what's um how you
yt09H_hrvPE-00150-00030872-00031102 guys handling ransomware and that's
yt09H_hrvPE-00151-00031103-00031262 usually felt with you know there's like
yt09H_hrvPE-00152-00031263-00031518 this um relaxed sigh and say well we
yt09H_hrvPE-00153-00031519-00031814 have backups we're fine you know if
yt09H_hrvPE-00154-00031816-00031983 there's a ransomware attack then we just
yt09H_hrvPE-00155-00031983-00032214 push this big red button somewhere and
yt09H_hrvPE-00156-00032216-00032439 then you know you go back to the n minus
yt09H_hrvPE-00157-00032439-00032695 one version we're good and maybe i lose
yt09H_hrvPE-00158-00032695-00032927 ten minutes of work but we're fine
yt09H_hrvPE-00159-00032928-00033151 um in theory
yt09H_hrvPE-00160-00033152-00033423 that that may be an acceptable component
yt09H_hrvPE-00161-00033424-00033631 of a ransomware plan there's no question
yt09H_hrvPE-00162-00033632-00033846 that you are going to have to
yt09H_hrvPE-00163-00033847-00034071 have some degree of resilience for your
yt09H_hrvPE-00164-00034072-00034183 infrastructure and that's going to
yt09H_hrvPE-00165-00034184-00034374 include backups but
yt09H_hrvPE-00166-00034375-00034631 you better be careful if you assume that
yt09H_hrvPE-00167-00034632-00034895 just doing a bunch of backups
yt09H_hrvPE-00168-00034896-00035215 is going to be enough um i mean the
yt09H_hrvPE-00169-00035216-00035518 simple sort of very obvious
yt09H_hrvPE-00170-00035519-00035727 question is whether the backups become
yt09H_hrvPE-00171-00035728-00035879 infected so you certainly have to have
yt09H_hrvPE-00172-00035880-00036087 some degree of separation there
yt09H_hrvPE-00173-00036088-00036223 maybe more importantly the question
yt09H_hrvPE-00174-00036224-00036390 would be have you ever actually done it
yt09H_hrvPE-00175-00036391-00036607 did you work through it have you tested
yt09H_hrvPE-00176-00036608-00036887 that it's a big hypothesis there that
yt09H_hrvPE-00177-00036888-00037039 you push the red button and something
yt09H_hrvPE-00178-00037040-00037207 actually happens
yt09H_hrvPE-00179-00037208-00037455 so there's a lot of problems
yt09H_hrvPE-00180-00037456-00037671 with this idea that you can sleep at
yt09H_hrvPE-00181-00037672-00037887 night just knowing that you've backed
yt09H_hrvPE-00182-00037888-00038159 things up it is an important component
yt09H_hrvPE-00183-00038160-00038335 you'll hear it in our discussion today
yt09H_hrvPE-00184-00038336-00038455 it's a theme
yt09H_hrvPE-00185-00038456-00038767 but it's not enough to just um have that
yt09H_hrvPE-00186-00038768-00038855 that
yt09H_hrvPE-00187-00038856-00039062 the desk drawer where you pull it out
yt09H_hrvPE-00188-00039063-00039318 and there's a 100 usbs all scattered
yt09H_hrvPE-00189-00039319-00039495 around and it's all your important stuff
yt09H_hrvPE-00190-00039496-00039599 so you're
yt09H_hrvPE-00191-00039600-00039743 you're safe from ransomware or you
yt09H_hrvPE-00192-00039744-00039911 bought this thing in the cloud
yt09H_hrvPE-00193-00039912-00040199 uh tim kind of any any comment on that
yt09H_hrvPE-00194-00040200-00040399 one i know that's a backup is such an
yt09H_hrvPE-00195-00040400-00040807 important part of it but not
yt09H_hrvPE-00196-00040808-00040935 i think there are two things about that
yt09H_hrvPE-00197-00040936-00041151 first of all this morning uh when i
yt09H_hrvPE-00198-00041152-00041502 logged into twitter i saw a reply to uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00199-00041503-00041727 one of the the tweets uh promoting this
yt09H_hrvPE-00200-00041728-00041846 webinar
yt09H_hrvPE-00201-00041847-00042007 uh where the person just said backups
yt09H_hrvPE-00202-00042008-00042183 backups backups keep doing it until it's
yt09H_hrvPE-00203-00042184-00042399 automatic so it's definitely a common
yt09H_hrvPE-00204-00042400-00042558 response yeah
yt09H_hrvPE-00205-00042559-00042639 for
yt09H_hrvPE-00206-00042640-00042846 uh ransomware the other the other piece
yt09H_hrvPE-00207-00042847-00043023 there that i think is important is a an
yt09H_hrvPE-00208-00043024-00043183 incident that
yt09H_hrvPE-00209-00043184-00043335 i was reading about i think just earlier
yt09H_hrvPE-00210-00043336-00043551 this week if not this week last week
yt09H_hrvPE-00211-00043552-00043679 where
yt09H_hrvPE-00212-00043680-00043879 the the ransomware had taken an
yt09H_hrvPE-00213-00043880-00044046 additional step the attacker had taken
yt09H_hrvPE-00214-00044047-00044239 an additional step not just to encrypt
yt09H_hrvPE-00215-00044240-00044439 the data but to also
yt09H_hrvPE-00216-00044440-00044655 exfiltrate it to copy it and so they
yt09H_hrvPE-00217-00044656-00044895 were now ransoming not just access to
yt09H_hrvPE-00218-00044896-00045127 your data but they were also essentially
yt09H_hrvPE-00219-00045128-00045423 blackmailing the customer to not publish
yt09H_hrvPE-00220-00045424-00045615 the sensitive data so
yt09H_hrvPE-00221-00045616-00045839 that myth that backups are are
yt09H_hrvPE-00222-00045840-00045983 sufficient
yt09H_hrvPE-00223-00045984-00046102 i think you're right they're important
yt09H_hrvPE-00224-00046103-00046335 but they don't address
yt09H_hrvPE-00225-00046336-00046543 the threat entirely and we also have to
yt09H_hrvPE-00226-00046544-00046686 keep in mind that
yt09H_hrvPE-00227-00046687-00046774 as
yt09H_hrvPE-00228-00046775-00047095 we adopt uh responses and mitigations
yt09H_hrvPE-00229-00047096-00047302 for ransomware the attackers are also
yt09H_hrvPE-00230-00047303-00047574 going to adapt to the the changes in in
yt09H_hrvPE-00231-00047575-00047718 what what they would characterize as
yt09H_hrvPE-00232-00047719-00047879 their threat landscape
yt09H_hrvPE-00233-00047880-00048062 and that's important to keep in mind
yt09H_hrvPE-00234-00048063-00048295 yeah it is funny yeah backup backup
yt09H_hrvPE-00235-00048296-00048511 backup but it's important i mean if you
yt09H_hrvPE-00236-00048512-00048751 run i.t infrastructure i get that i
yt09H_hrvPE-00237-00048752-00048958 don't need ransomware so you might want
yt09H_hrvPE-00238-00048959-00049095 to throw a restore in there though
yt09H_hrvPE-00239-00049096-00049318 backup backup restore backup backup and
yt09H_hrvPE-00240-00049319-00049551 then do that until it's automatic
yt09H_hrvPE-00241-00049552-00049799 yeah so the the third myth the third of
yt09H_hrvPE-00242-00049800-00049967 three we'll stop maybe with this third
yt09H_hrvPE-00243-00049968-00050167 when we get on with some uh discussions
yt09H_hrvPE-00244-00050168-00050295 around maturity and some other things
yt09H_hrvPE-00245-00050296-00050599 but the third one is another very common
yt09H_hrvPE-00246-00050600-00050702 one
yt09H_hrvPE-00247-00050703-00050790 and
yt09H_hrvPE-00248-00050791-00050958 this is one i heard all the time when i
yt09H_hrvPE-00249-00050959-00051127 was back working in telecom because i
yt09H_hrvPE-00250-00051128-00051302 was in a very large industry where we
yt09H_hrvPE-00251-00051303-00051526 were clearly a target there was never a
yt09H_hrvPE-00252-00051527-00051638 question
yt09H_hrvPE-00253-00051639-00051887 that if you're a fortune 10 company you
yt09H_hrvPE-00254-00051888-00052102 know you're a target of course but
yt09H_hrvPE-00255-00052103-00052238 everyone else
yt09H_hrvPE-00256-00052239-00052423 would always point us and say well you
yt09H_hrvPE-00257-00052424-00052615 know you're a target
yt09H_hrvPE-00258-00052616-00052823 but and then that would be followed by
yt09H_hrvPE-00259-00052824-00052911 some
yt09H_hrvPE-00260-00052912-00053079 rationalization that because they're
yt09H_hrvPE-00261-00053079-00053326 smaller or there's another industry or
yt09H_hrvPE-00262-00053327-00053447 this or that
yt09H_hrvPE-00263-00053448-00053623 certainly we're not a target why would
yt09H_hrvPE-00264-00053624-00053791 anybody go after
yt09H_hrvPE-00265-00053791-00054030 us and i'll admit
yt09H_hrvPE-00266-00054032-00054287 that there are certainly cases where a
yt09H_hrvPE-00267-00054288-00054535 larger organization a very large bank is
yt09H_hrvPE-00268-00054536-00054703 going to be targeted because they're a
yt09H_hrvPE-00269-00054704-00054982 large bank of course we're all it's a
yt09H_hrvPE-00270-00054983-00055279 practical matter but the bad news is
yt09H_hrvPE-00271-00055279-00055375 that
yt09H_hrvPE-00272-00055376-00055582 that's not how this works you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00273-00055583-00055742 you'll you'll learn as you know in the
yt09H_hrvPE-00274-00055744-00055919 next hour i'm sure you probably already
yt09H_hrvPE-00275-00055920-00056215 know that these ransomware ops campaigns
yt09H_hrvPE-00276-00056216-00056375 you know a lot of them really are just
yt09H_hrvPE-00277-00056376-00056630 out sweeping for for uh targets or
yt09H_hrvPE-00278-00056632-00056823 victims you know based on vulnerability
yt09H_hrvPE-00279-00056824-00057038 or access or any any number of things so
yt09H_hrvPE-00280-00057039-00057359 it sort of doesn't matter what you think
yt09H_hrvPE-00281-00057360-00057559 if you present yourself as a vulnerable
yt09H_hrvPE-00282-00057560-00057775 target you may see ransomwares if you
yt09H_hrvPE-00283-00057776-00057919 you could be the tiniest most
yt09H_hrvPE-00284-00057920-00058175 insignificant organization on the planet
yt09H_hrvPE-00285-00058176-00058399 and if you happen to fall into the path
yt09H_hrvPE-00286-00058400-00058671 of some ransomware ops campaign you're
yt09H_hrvPE-00287-00058672-00058823 going to get hit
yt09H_hrvPE-00288-00058824-00058975 and you you know you may be sitting with
yt09H_hrvPE-00289-00058976-00059199 your manager scratching your head saying
yt09H_hrvPE-00290-00059200-00059438 why would someone go after us
yt09H_hrvPE-00291-00059439-00059647 and i think your answer asking the wrong
yt09H_hrvPE-00292-00059648-00059926 question that's almost irrelevant you
yt09H_hrvPE-00293-00059927-00060103 know whether there was some person who'd
yt09H_hrvPE-00294-00060104-00060254 been thinking about you if you're
yt09H_hrvPE-00295-00060255-00060519 listening to to tim and i today and
yt09H_hrvPE-00296-00060520-00060759 there's one thing i hope you take away
yt09H_hrvPE-00297-00060760-00060926 if they haven't already absorbed this in
yt09H_hrvPE-00298-00060927-00061182 the last 10 years it's that
yt09H_hrvPE-00299-00061183-00061526 this isn't 1985. you know people don't
yt09H_hrvPE-00300-00061527-00061750 go after you because they have some beef
yt09H_hrvPE-00301-00061751-00062054 with you that's not how cyber security
yt09H_hrvPE-00302-00062055-00062430 has evolved so you have to assume
yt09H_hrvPE-00303-00062432-00062591 that regardless of who you are
yt09H_hrvPE-00304-00062591-00062742 regardless of whether your board is
yt09H_hrvPE-00305-00062744-00062942 going to demand that demand you know why
yt09H_hrvPE-00306-00062944-00063166 would they come after us you have to be
yt09H_hrvPE-00307-00063167-00063430 able to teach your executive team that
yt09H_hrvPE-00308-00063432-00063623 that's not the way it works everyone's a
yt09H_hrvPE-00309-00063624-00063887 target tim am i saying this right
yt09H_hrvPE-00310-00063888-00064094 i think so um i you know i like to
yt09H_hrvPE-00311-00064095-00064263 divide it into into sort of two
yt09H_hrvPE-00312-00064264-00064438 categories there are
yt09H_hrvPE-00313-00064439-00064638 uh you know specifically targeted
yt09H_hrvPE-00314-00064639-00064806 organizations or individuals that does
yt09H_hrvPE-00315-00064807-00064950 happen
yt09H_hrvPE-00316-00064951-00065142 but there are absolutely targets of
yt09H_hrvPE-00317-00065144-00065430 opportunity and so thinking of yourself
yt09H_hrvPE-00318-00065432-00065623 as you know am i someone who is going to
yt09H_hrvPE-00319-00065624-00065815 be specifically targeted
yt09H_hrvPE-00320-00065816-00066038 or am i a target of opportunity
yt09H_hrvPE-00321-00066039-00066175 and when you think of it in just those
yt09H_hrvPE-00322-00066176-00066343 two categories you essentially eliminate
yt09H_hrvPE-00323-00066344-00066503 the possibility that you're not a target
yt09H_hrvPE-00324-00066504-00066671 you're either one of the two
yt09H_hrvPE-00325-00066672-00066847 uh because everybody's a target of
yt09H_hrvPE-00326-00066848-00066950 opportunity
yt09H_hrvPE-00327-00066951-00067135 we both right in most cases certainly
yt09H_hrvPE-00328-00067136-00067359 could be both yeah yeah and that gets
yt09H_hrvPE-00329-00067360-00067494 very interesting because if you if
yt09H_hrvPE-00330-00067495-00067631 you're experiencing an incident you're
yt09H_hrvPE-00331-00067632-00067806 trying to determine whether it was
yt09H_hrvPE-00332-00067807-00067967 specifically targeted or a target of
yt09H_hrvPE-00333-00067968-00068175 opportunity that kind of attribution is
yt09H_hrvPE-00334-00068176-00068326 a an interesting if separate
yt09H_hrvPE-00335-00068327-00068594 conversation it was so funny back in uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00336-00068595-00068879 2012 when all the banks were getting hit
yt09H_hrvPE-00337-00068880-00069143 with these ddos attacks um yeah
yt09H_hrvPE-00338-00069144-00069415 attributed presumably to iran who knows
yt09H_hrvPE-00339-00069416-00069559 i think it was
yt09H_hrvPE-00340-00069560-00069750 it was funny tim we're trying to figure
yt09H_hrvPE-00341-00069751-00069959 out why this bank why not that one why
yt09H_hrvPE-00342-00069960-00070143 this bank why not that one i don't think
yt09H_hrvPE-00343-00070144-00070382 anybody ever figured it out but somebody
yt09H_hrvPE-00344-00070383-00070663 showed me this is anecdotal
yt09H_hrvPE-00345-00070664-00070815 correlation but it seemed pretty
yt09H_hrvPE-00346-00070816-00071023 interesting we looked at the list of
yt09H_hrvPE-00347-00071024-00071287 banks that got hit with these attacks
yt09H_hrvPE-00348-00071288-00071479 and somebody found
yt09H_hrvPE-00349-00071480-00071862 a donation page i want to say the united
yt09H_hrvPE-00350-00071863-00072191 way or something like that some charity
yt09H_hrvPE-00351-00072192-00072399 it had all the banks that had given
yt09H_hrvPE-00352-00072400-00072503 money
yt09H_hrvPE-00353-00072504-00072711 to this organization and i got to tell
yt09H_hrvPE-00354-00072712-00073143 you they lined up and
yt09H_hrvPE-00355-00073144-00073350 maybe somebody somewhere they said hey
yt09H_hrvPE-00356-00073351-00073591 go find us a list of banks to hit
yt09H_hrvPE-00357-00073592-00073775 somebody gets on the internet and pulls
yt09H_hrvPE-00358-00073776-00074159 this list yeah this donation thing and
yt09H_hrvPE-00359-00074160-00074543 and i again might be just accidental but
yt09H_hrvPE-00360-00074544-00074750 it does go to show you that i'm sure
yt09H_hrvPE-00361-00074751-00075023 every one of those banks went back
yt09H_hrvPE-00362-00075024-00075335 and spent weeks or months pouring
yt09H_hrvPE-00363-00075336-00075599 through why did they hit us and not them
yt09H_hrvPE-00364-00075600-00075831 did we say this or do that it might have
yt09H_hrvPE-00365-00075832-00076062 been something as silly
yt09H_hrvPE-00366-00076063-00076287 as you just happened to give to a
yt09H_hrvPE-00367-00076288-00076526 campaign somebody pulled the list
yt09H_hrvPE-00368-00076527-00076743 and it was like a reverse lottery winner
yt09H_hrvPE-00369-00076744-00077038 you got hit it's entirely possible so i
yt09H_hrvPE-00370-00077039-00077319 think this idea of trying to overthink
yt09H_hrvPE-00371-00077320-00077479 why somebody's coming after you
yt09H_hrvPE-00372-00077480-00077694 sometimes it's obvious but most of my
yt09H_hrvPE-00373-00077695-00077871 experience been doing this for 40 years
yt09H_hrvPE-00374-00077872-00078111 now it's not always so easy to figure it
yt09H_hrvPE-00375-00078112-00078382 out better to protect yourself and
yt09H_hrvPE-00376-00078383-00078647 assume your target that seems a a more
yt09H_hrvPE-00377-00078648-00078911 mature way to handle this yeah well i
yt09H_hrvPE-00378-00078912-00079087 think that's a that's a good transition
yt09H_hrvPE-00379-00079088-00079287 for us to to move off of the the myths
yt09H_hrvPE-00380-00079288-00079535 and into into sort of that conversation
yt09H_hrvPE-00381-00079536-00079743 about the the maturity curve around
yt09H_hrvPE-00382-00079744-00079943 addressing ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00383-00079944-00080119 and and i think we could start with sort
yt09H_hrvPE-00384-00080120-00080223 of the
yt09H_hrvPE-00385-00080224-00080543 the basic level so if we if we take
yt09H_hrvPE-00386-00080544-00080767 organizations that are
yt09H_hrvPE-00387-00080768-00080935 uh you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00388-00080936-00081079 for the sake of argument just starting
yt09H_hrvPE-00389-00081080-00081311 on on this journey of addressing
yt09H_hrvPE-00390-00081312-00081471 ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00391-00081472-00081726 what what do you expect to fit into that
yt09H_hrvPE-00392-00081727-00082023 kind of basic level in terms of maybe in
yt09H_hrvPE-00393-00082024-00082135 terms of assumptions that that
yt09H_hrvPE-00394-00082136-00082271 organization should make and then in
yt09H_hrvPE-00395-00082272-00082423 terms of the controls that that you'd
yt09H_hrvPE-00396-00082424-00082671 expect them to to put in place
yt09H_hrvPE-00397-00082672-00082894 well you and i both know that the av and
yt09H_hrvPE-00398-00082895-00083159 backup right it's like it's like this
yt09H_hrvPE-00399-00083160-00083399 minimum sort of thing where
yt09H_hrvPE-00400-00083400-00083671 and minimum by the way i don't mean to
yt09H_hrvPE-00401-00083672-00083894 say like if that's what you're doing
yt09H_hrvPE-00402-00083895-00084150 that that's a mistake because sometimes
yt09H_hrvPE-00403-00084151-00084350 that's that's perfectly acceptable you
yt09H_hrvPE-00404-00084351-00084511 know when we're all
yt09H_hrvPE-00405-00084512-00084735 at risk and we decide what are we going
yt09H_hrvPE-00406-00084736-00084935 to spend money on and what are we not
yt09H_hrvPE-00407-00084936-00085103 going to spend money on
yt09H_hrvPE-00408-00085104-00085391 and that's the that's the art i wish i
yt09H_hrvPE-00409-00085392-00085631 could say it was a science what we do
yt09H_hrvPE-00410-00085632-00085799 tim but i i don't think it's reached
yt09H_hrvPE-00411-00085800-00085982 that point yet there's a there's a
yt09H_hrvPE-00412-00085983-00086255 subjective sort of art to this figuring
yt09H_hrvPE-00413-00086256-00086343 out
yt09H_hrvPE-00414-00086344-00086687 where do i kind of put my my investments
yt09H_hrvPE-00415-00086688-00086887 and we all want to be quantitative we
yt09H_hrvPE-00416-00086888-00087031 want to be data-driven we want to be
yt09H_hrvPE-00417-00087032-00087167 risk-driven we're moving there but
yt09H_hrvPE-00418-00087168-00087287 there's still
yt09H_hrvPE-00419-00087288-00087494 some subjectivity here so for some
yt09H_hrvPE-00420-00087495-00087726 organizations like having a very basic
yt09H_hrvPE-00421-00087727-00087935 response plan maybe it's written down
yt09H_hrvPE-00422-00087936-00088118 somewhere maybe not always everybody
yt09H_hrvPE-00423-00088119-00088438 knows you know sort of focusing on maybe
yt09H_hrvPE-00424-00088439-00088671 detecting ransomware when it happens and
yt09H_hrvPE-00425-00088672-00088959 being able to respond and then arguing
yt09H_hrvPE-00426-00088960-00089287 that look we do have a backup strategy
yt09H_hrvPE-00427-00089288-00089518 our vendor tells us
yt09H_hrvPE-00428-00089519-00089799 because it said on the brochure that it
yt09H_hrvPE-00429-00089800-00090031 probably will stop uh you know the
yt09H_hrvPE-00430-00090032-00090215 backups will be clean
yt09H_hrvPE-00431-00090216-00090479 and our av company anti-malware company
yt09H_hrvPE-00432-00090480-00090647 you know they tell us that they've got
yt09H_hrvPE-00433-00090648-00090943 some signatures that you know like if
yt09H_hrvPE-00434-00090944-00091159 if something's going to try to encrypt
yt09H_hrvPE-00435-00091160-00091406 all your stuff then it sits in that
yt09H_hrvPE-00436-00091407-00091638 service call as a shim and it stops it
yt09H_hrvPE-00437-00091639-00091791 or whatever there
yt09H_hrvPE-00438-00091792-00091999 could very well be
yt09H_hrvPE-00439-00092000-00092215 some meaningful protections there but
yt09H_hrvPE-00440-00092216-00092415 that would seem to me
yt09H_hrvPE-00441-00092416-00092679 to describe this minimum level i i mean
yt09H_hrvPE-00442-00092680-00092823 i don't want to be sort of depressing
yt09H_hrvPE-00443-00092824-00093015 here but i think that's 95 of the
yt09H_hrvPE-00444-00093016-00093238 companies out there maybe more are kind
yt09H_hrvPE-00445-00093239-00093511 of in that mode of we do av we got
yt09H_hrvPE-00446-00093512-00093743 backups we sort of know what we're doing
yt09H_hrvPE-00447-00093744-00093982 i think we're more or less good tim does
yt09H_hrvPE-00448-00093983-00094150 that match with your experience kind of
yt09H_hrvPE-00449-00094151-00094471 that that that sort of focus at that
yt09H_hrvPE-00450-00094472-00094774 basic maturity level i think so and i i
yt09H_hrvPE-00451-00094775-00095062 like the idea of um at this sort of
yt09H_hrvPE-00452-00095063-00095294 basic maturity level of of sort of a
yt09H_hrvPE-00453-00095295-00095494 three-prong approach and
yt09H_hrvPE-00454-00095495-00095647 keeping it simple something that you can
yt09H_hrvPE-00455-00095648-00095735 very
yt09H_hrvPE-00456-00095736-00095918 easily identify we're gonna do these
yt09H_hrvPE-00457-00095919-00096143 three things we're gonna uh put in a
yt09H_hrvPE-00458-00096144-00096367 backup plan a backup system we're gonna
yt09H_hrvPE-00459-00096368-00096518 deploy anti-malware and we're gonna
yt09H_hrvPE-00460-00096519-00096815 develop a response plan um and that way
yt09H_hrvPE-00461-00096816-00096974 you're covering
yt09H_hrvPE-00462-00096975-00097255 sort of a foundation of
yt09H_hrvPE-00463-00097256-00097455 uh ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00464-00097456-00097767 you know response or mitigation
yt09H_hrvPE-00465-00097768-00097959 and the backup one and
yt09H_hrvPE-00466-00097960-00098118 backups i think are
yt09H_hrvPE-00467-00098119-00098279 are important and i do think they're
yt09H_hrvPE-00468-00098280-00098543 that that they fit in this basic level
yt09H_hrvPE-00469-00098544-00098855 not just because of of ransomware but a
yt09H_hrvPE-00470-00098856-00099103 good backup strategy
yt09H_hrvPE-00471-00099104-00099335 well implemented um to the point you
yt09H_hrvPE-00472-00099336-00099526 were making earlier it it improves
yt09H_hrvPE-00473-00099527-00099718 organizational resilience
yt09H_hrvPE-00474-00099719-00099926 um and it does that not just for a
yt09H_hrvPE-00475-00099927-00100094 ransomware attack but for any other kind
yt09H_hrvPE-00476-00100095-00100287 of incident or outage
yt09H_hrvPE-00477-00100288-00100487 where uh you know the ability to to
yt09H_hrvPE-00478-00100488-00100662 quickly and effectively restore from a
yt09H_hrvPE-00479-00100663-00100838 backup gets you back to running your
yt09H_hrvPE-00480-00100839-00101071 business faster than um than the
yt09H_hrvPE-00481-00101072-00101350 alternative of not having backups
yt09H_hrvPE-00482-00101351-00101599 yeah you know i think you're hitting on
yt09H_hrvPE-00483-00101600-00101774 another kind of
yt09H_hrvPE-00484-00101775-00101950 really useful point that i hope people
yt09H_hrvPE-00485-00101951-00102174 listening take away from this and that's
yt09H_hrvPE-00486-00102175-00102359 that good it management or good
yt09H_hrvPE-00487-00102360-00102527 infrastructure management is good
yt09H_hrvPE-00488-00102528-00102727 security management making sure
yt09H_hrvPE-00489-00102728-00102951 absolutely if if the security team's
yt09H_hrvPE-00490-00102952-00103175 saying do an x and the cio is saying do
yt09H_hrvPE-00491-00103176-00103439 why something isn't right that's why i
yt09H_hrvPE-00492-00103440-00103678 like cloud so much because i think both
yt09H_hrvPE-00493-00103679-00103934 it teams and cios and csos and
yt09H_hrvPE-00494-00103935-00104182 everybody's feeling like virtualization
yt09H_hrvPE-00495-00104183-00104471 and segmenting and microservices these
yt09H_hrvPE-00496-00104472-00104742 are all good ideas both from a cost
yt09H_hrvPE-00497-00104743-00105086 usability and security perspective so so
yt09H_hrvPE-00498-00105088-00105199 when you think about the things that
yt09H_hrvPE-00499-00105200-00105390 we're talking about here you know we'll
yt09H_hrvPE-00500-00105391-00105566 get to some you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00501-00105567-00105743 maybe more uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00502-00105744-00105990 advanced concepts in cyber but all of
yt09H_hrvPE-00503-00105991-00106071 them
yt09H_hrvPE-00504-00106072-00106263 if you just if you took ransomware and
yt09H_hrvPE-00505-00106264-00106502 you just pushed it out of the picture
yt09H_hrvPE-00506-00106503-00106710 you still should do all this and i think
yt09H_hrvPE-00507-00106711-00106878 that's important like i hope people take
yt09H_hrvPE-00508-00106879-00107119 that away that when you talk about that
yt09H_hrvPE-00509-00107120-00107231 like that's the difference between
yt09H_hrvPE-00510-00107232-00107471 foundational controls and add-on
yt09H_hrvPE-00511-00107472-00107743 controls foundational ones are ones you
yt09H_hrvPE-00512-00107744-00107990 should always do don't worry about if
yt09H_hrvPE-00513-00107991-00108175 it's this attack that threat or whatever
yt09H_hrvPE-00514-00108176-00108319 doesn't matter because that changes
yt09H_hrvPE-00515-00108320-00108527 every couple years used to be network
yt09H_hrvPE-00516-00108528-00108734 attacks then with worm attacks indeed
yt09H_hrvPE-00517-00108735-00109078 austin fishing and ransomware you travel
yt09H_hrvPE-00518-00109079-00109334 through these types but the foundational
yt09H_hrvPE-00519-00109335-00109590 issues patching managing vulnerabilities
yt09H_hrvPE-00520-00109591-00109902 you better do that independent of which
yt09H_hrvPE-00521-00109903-00110223 way the wind's blowing the add-on stuff
yt09H_hrvPE-00522-00110224-00110519 tends to go sort of with the whims of
yt09H_hrvPE-00523-00110520-00110863 the you know of of the attack du jour
yt09H_hrvPE-00524-00110864-00111127 so i i do hope people recognize that as
yt09H_hrvPE-00525-00111128-00111295 you're planning your your strategy to
yt09H_hrvPE-00526-00111296-00111471 protect your enterprise
yt09H_hrvPE-00527-00111472-00111734 focus on the foundations first make sure
yt09H_hrvPE-00528-00111735-00111927 that what you're proposing
yt09H_hrvPE-00529-00111928-00112151 is not being reactionary too much to a
yt09H_hrvPE-00530-00112152-00112358 particular attack because who knows
yt09H_hrvPE-00531-00112359-00112519 maybe ransom i don't know maybe the
yt09H_hrvPE-00532-00112520-00112758 ransomware all just magically stops in
yt09H_hrvPE-00533-00112759-00112958 two years and i would imagine every
yt09H_hrvPE-00534-00112959-00113127 single thing tim and i are talking about
yt09H_hrvPE-00535-00113128-00113383 here is still valid you still do it
yt09H_hrvPE-00536-00113383-00113551 that's the point
yt09H_hrvPE-00537-00113552-00113710 there's a there's a reason that that
yt09H_hrvPE-00538-00113711-00113863 we've moved you know we've kind of moved
yt09H_hrvPE-00539-00113864-00114110 from anti-virus to anti-malware but
yt09H_hrvPE-00540-00114111-00114223 there's a reason it's not called
yt09H_hrvPE-00541-00114224-00114439 anti-ransomware and that's because it
yt09H_hrvPE-00542-00114440-00114702 addresses more than just ransomware it's
yt09H_hrvPE-00543-00114703-00114919 important to remember there are types of
yt09H_hrvPE-00544-00114920-00115086 malware that aren't specifically
yt09H_hrvPE-00545-00115088-00115358 ransomware um and i always like to
yt09H_hrvPE-00546-00115359-00115543 remind folks although it's it's a little
yt09H_hrvPE-00547-00115544-00115702 bit outside the the subject of this
yt09H_hrvPE-00548-00115703-00115886 particular conversation
yt09H_hrvPE-00549-00115888-00115990 that
yt09H_hrvPE-00550-00115991-00116071 you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00551-00116072-00116223 ransomware b is a kind of attack that
yt09H_hrvPE-00552-00116224-00116502 has to announce itself but if ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00553-00116503-00116654 can be successful in your organization
yt09H_hrvPE-00554-00116655-00116919 that means other types of attacks that
yt09H_hrvPE-00555-00116920-00117134 want to stay hidden
yt09H_hrvPE-00556-00117135-00117375 uh can also be successful and to me
yt09H_hrvPE-00557-00117376-00117486 those are you know that's something to
yt09H_hrvPE-00558-00117488-00117607 worry about
yt09H_hrvPE-00559-00117608-00117910 ransomware is a uh it's it's it's a
yt09H_hrvPE-00560-00117911-00118102 tough type of attack to deal with but it
yt09H_hrvPE-00561-00118103-00118302 also is it doesn't present the problem
yt09H_hrvPE-00562-00118303-00118486 of of um
yt09H_hrvPE-00563-00118488-00118686 being undetectable because it always
yt09H_hrvPE-00564-00118688-00118919 will ultimately ask for a ransom that's
yt09H_hrvPE-00565-00118920-00119158 right when ransomware is present
yt09H_hrvPE-00566-00119159-00119334 then there are vulnerabilities that
yt09H_hrvPE-00567-00119335-00119551 could be exploited for apt and any
yt09H_hrvPE-00568-00119552-00119678 number of other
yt09H_hrvPE-00569-00119679-00119919 problems it's an indication that
yt09H_hrvPE-00570-00119920-00120158 vulnerabilities are present so that's
yt09H_hrvPE-00571-00120159-00120343 something
yt09H_hrvPE-00572-00120344-00120566 so let's touch on the response plan
yt09H_hrvPE-00573-00120567-00120775 side of this as well as one of the basic
yt09H_hrvPE-00574-00120776-00120847 uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00575-00120848-00121031 basic steps
yt09H_hrvPE-00576-00121032-00121207 because i think
yt09H_hrvPE-00577-00121208-00121431 it's a it's a
yt09H_hrvPE-00578-00121432-00121631 a tactic or a
yt09H_hrvPE-00579-00121632-00121886 a process that that is somehow
yt09H_hrvPE-00580-00121888-00122063 often ignored or it's thought of at the
yt09H_hrvPE-00581-00122064-00122319 last minute it's not a technical control
yt09H_hrvPE-00582-00122320-00122502 and so people who are who tend to be
yt09H_hrvPE-00583-00122503-00122654 technically minded don't always think of
yt09H_hrvPE-00584-00122655-00122902 the response plan as a foundational
yt09H_hrvPE-00585-00122903-00123151 control but it really is it's it's
yt09H_hrvPE-00586-00123152-00123310 necessary
yt09H_hrvPE-00587-00123311-00123495 you know what i hear tim when i bring up
yt09H_hrvPE-00588-00123496-00123702 what's your response plan you get into
yt09H_hrvPE-00589-00123703-00123927 all this nonsense about whether they
yt09H_hrvPE-00590-00123928-00124158 have the ability to pay in um
yt09H_hrvPE-00591-00124159-00124423 cryptocurrency or not
yt09H_hrvPE-00592-00124424-00124566 like that's the
yt09H_hrvPE-00593-00124567-00124727 almost like there's this presumption
yt09H_hrvPE-00594-00124728-00124927 that the response plan is if somebody's
yt09H_hrvPE-00595-00124928-00125127 looking for bitcoin do we know how to do
yt09H_hrvPE-00596-00125128-00125207 it
yt09H_hrvPE-00597-00125208-00125390 and i think gosh that's a pretty
yt09H_hrvPE-00598-00125391-00125743 depressing
yt09H_hrvPE-00599-00125744-00125966 response plan to me but i think
yt09H_hrvPE-00600-00125967-00126207 way too many companies get into that
yt09H_hrvPE-00601-00126208-00126383 kind of very uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00602-00126383-00126647 weirdly spiraled loop a response plan is
yt09H_hrvPE-00603-00126648-00126854 exactly what it's called what what
yt09H_hrvPE-00604-00126855-00127054 that's a name that does indicative of
yt09H_hrvPE-00605-00127055-00127207 the activity
yt09H_hrvPE-00606-00127208-00127471 it means you've got a clearly defined
yt09H_hrvPE-00607-00127472-00127639 step-by-step procedure
yt09H_hrvPE-00608-00127640-00127975 well understood by everybody documented
yt09H_hrvPE-00609-00127976-00128110 tested
yt09H_hrvPE-00610-00128111-00128407 and and and that's designed
yt09H_hrvPE-00611-00128408-00128663 to to restore to to allow you to
yt09H_hrvPE-00612-00128664-00128919 continue on your mission and admittedly
yt09H_hrvPE-00613-00128920-00129086 the mission could be somewhat degraded
yt09H_hrvPE-00614-00129088-00129231 but it's like anything i mean if your
yt09H_hrvPE-00615-00129232-00129534 car is chugging along um there's some
yt09H_hrvPE-00616-00129535-00129702 things that you may have to do to
yt09H_hrvPE-00617-00129703-00129871 respond to just keep thing going when
yt09H_hrvPE-00618-00129872-00130078 you change a tire you're going to drive
yt09H_hrvPE-00619-00130079-00130231 slower but you can still get to where
yt09H_hrvPE-00620-00130232-00130423 you're going they fix it later so
yt09H_hrvPE-00621-00130424-00130686 response plans have to be focused on the
yt09H_hrvPE-00622-00130688-00130895 mission and all those attributes that i
yt09H_hrvPE-00623-00130896-00131031 said earlier
yt09H_hrvPE-00624-00131032-00131359 at that basic level of maturity in this
yt09H_hrvPE-00625-00131360-00131559 my observation is it's usually not very
yt09H_hrvPE-00626-00131560-00131663 good
yt09H_hrvPE-00627-00131664-00131871 and you usually it's um
yt09H_hrvPE-00628-00131872-00132039 pretty thin as you get to the more
yt09H_hrvPE-00629-00132040-00132287 advanced levels there's probably some
yt09H_hrvPE-00630-00132288-00132447 very um
yt09H_hrvPE-00631-00132448-00132687 some gradations in the
yt09H_hrvPE-00632-00132688-00132902 um in the completeness
yt09H_hrvPE-00633-00132903-00133127 of a response plan and definitely and
yt09H_hrvPE-00634-00133128-00133311 whether it's tested i would say at that
yt09H_hrvPE-00635-00133312-00133559 basic level i i don't think people are
yt09H_hrvPE-00636-00133560-00133711 actually going through quote-unquote
yt09H_hrvPE-00637-00133712-00134007 exercises to see if the response i i'm
yt09H_hrvPE-00638-00134008-00134223 almost never see that
yt09H_hrvPE-00639-00134224-00134447 for most companies they'll talk about it
yt09H_hrvPE-00640-00134448-00134599 never
yt09H_hrvPE-00641-00134600-00134751 yeah i always like to think of the
yt09H_hrvPE-00642-00134752-00135023 response plan as a way to
yt09H_hrvPE-00643-00135024-00135239 uh make decisions before they they have
yt09H_hrvPE-00644-00135240-00135431 to be made so think about what decisions
yt09H_hrvPE-00645-00135432-00135590 you're going to have to make during the
yt09H_hrvPE-00646-00135591-00135687 incident
yt09H_hrvPE-00647-00135688-00135863 um and then make them ahead of time
yt09H_hrvPE-00648-00135864-00136047 because that removes the possibility
yt09H_hrvPE-00649-00136048-00136207 that you make the wrong decision during
yt09H_hrvPE-00650-00136208-00136390 the incident when you're stressed and
yt09H_hrvPE-00651-00136391-00136527 worried and you're not sure what's going
yt09H_hrvPE-00652-00136528-00136607 on
yt09H_hrvPE-00653-00136608-00136895 um it makes uh you know uh for better
yt09H_hrvPE-00654-00136896-00137039 decision making throughout that incident
yt09H_hrvPE-00655-00137040-00137278 in general makes perfect sense
yt09H_hrvPE-00656-00137279-00137439 so let's let's move off of this this
yt09H_hrvPE-00657-00137440-00137647 basic level and uh talk about sort of
yt09H_hrvPE-00658-00137648-00137878 the the intermediate level at this point
yt09H_hrvPE-00659-00137879-00138119 so organization that
yt09H_hrvPE-00660-00138120-00138295 um has put in place a you know a backup
yt09H_hrvPE-00661-00138296-00138583 strategy has anti-malware deployed has a
yt09H_hrvPE-00662-00138584-00138847 response plan maybe it's a little thin
yt09H_hrvPE-00663-00138848-00138943 what do you
yt09H_hrvPE-00664-00138944-00139135 think are the the next steps as they
yt09H_hrvPE-00665-00139136-00139335 move up that curve that maturity curve
yt09H_hrvPE-00666-00139336-00139551 in terms of of being prepared for
yt09H_hrvPE-00667-00139552-00139687 ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00668-00139688-00139902 well it's hard not to think of the shift
yt09H_hrvPE-00669-00139903-00140127 left shift right spectrum
yt09H_hrvPE-00670-00140128-00140327 to understand the maturity because i
yt09H_hrvPE-00671-00140328-00140535 kind of feel like at that basic level
yt09H_hrvPE-00672-00140536-00140759 you're way shifted right you're
yt09H_hrvPE-00673-00140760-00140902 dealing with you assume it's going to
yt09H_hrvPE-00674-00140903-00141119 happen and here's what we would happen
yt09H_hrvPE-00675-00141120-00141311 here's how we respond but with the
yt09H_hrvPE-00676-00141312-00141511 maturity sort of moving toward
yt09H_hrvPE-00677-00141512-00141671 intermediate i think you are getting a
yt09H_hrvPE-00678-00141672-00141847 little more serious about managing
yt09H_hrvPE-00679-00141848-00142075 vulnerabilities um
yt09H_hrvPE-00680-00142076-00142278 configurations and
yt09H_hrvPE-00681-00142279-00142575 you know focusing on things even you
yt09H_hrvPE-00682-00142576-00142743 know your email
yt09H_hrvPE-00683-00142744-00142966 security could be an important
yt09H_hrvPE-00684-00142967-00143287 program because let's face it
yt09H_hrvPE-00685-00143288-00143583 a common vector not the only one
yt09H_hrvPE-00686-00143584-00143847 not saying the only way ransomware comes
yt09H_hrvPE-00687-00143848-00144135 in is some dummy clicks on something
yt09H_hrvPE-00688-00144136-00144263 and you don't have to be a dummy to
yt09H_hrvPE-00689-00144264-00144431 click on something i've been tricked
yt09H_hrvPE-00690-00144432-00144702 many times but when you start to think
yt09H_hrvPE-00691-00144703-00144926 all right let's go to that next level
yt09H_hrvPE-00692-00144927-00145087 how does our vulnerability management
yt09H_hrvPE-00693-00145088-00145254 program
yt09H_hrvPE-00694-00145255-00145487 help to reduce risk here that's a little
yt09H_hrvPE-00695-00145488-00145687 more sophisticated level of discussion
yt09H_hrvPE-00696-00145688-00145926 then now i feel like you're shifting
yt09H_hrvPE-00697-00145927-00146071 more left maybe you're in the middle of
yt09H_hrvPE-00698-00146072-00146351 the spectrum there at that
yt09H_hrvPE-00699-00146352-00146631 that intermediate level of maturity and
yt09H_hrvPE-00700-00146632-00146847 for me configuration managing
yt09H_hrvPE-00701-00146848-00147111 configurations and having a good solid
yt09H_hrvPE-00702-00147112-00147311 vulnerability management and training
yt09H_hrvPE-00703-00147312-00147423 program
yt09H_hrvPE-00704-00147424-00147654 probably very indicative of the more
yt09H_hrvPE-00705-00147655-00147790 preventive
yt09H_hrvPE-00706-00147791-00148014 aspect at that intermediate level does
yt09H_hrvPE-00707-00148015-00148247 does that make sense tim do you i think
yt09H_hrvPE-00708-00148248-00148559 you touched on um for me a key
yt09H_hrvPE-00709-00148560-00148775 realization that occurs moving from that
yt09H_hrvPE-00710-00148776-00149007 basic to an intermediate level which is
yt09H_hrvPE-00711-00149008-00149166 the the realization that ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00712-00149167-00149423 doesn't magically appear on systems so
yt09H_hrvPE-00713-00149424-00149695 at that basic level your focus is how do
yt09H_hrvPE-00714-00149696-00149943 i detect ransomware uh you know on that
yt09H_hrvPE-00715-00149944-00150126 endpoint with an anti-malware tool and
yt09H_hrvPE-00716-00150127-00150302 how do i deal with it once it's there
yt09H_hrvPE-00717-00150303-00150471 you know through restoration of backups
yt09H_hrvPE-00718-00150472-00150631 or through a response plan
yt09H_hrvPE-00719-00150632-00150790 but at some point you have to realize
yt09H_hrvPE-00720-00150791-00150959 that ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00721-00150960-00151159 has to get into the environment in some
yt09H_hrvPE-00722-00151160-00151239 way
yt09H_hrvPE-00723-00151240-00151487 and generally speaking um
yt09H_hrvPE-00724-00151488-00151647 that's going to be through
yt09H_hrvPE-00725-00151648-00151878 uh you know email as you pointed out
yt09H_hrvPE-00726-00151879-00152011 through
yt09H_hrvPE-00727-00152012-00152214 exploitation of a vulnerability through
yt09H_hrvPE-00728-00152215-00152487 a misconfiguration that's providing
yt09H_hrvPE-00729-00152488-00152759 for that ransomware to propagate and so
yt09H_hrvPE-00730-00152760-00152919 that next step from basic to
yt09H_hrvPE-00731-00152920-00153102 intermediate as you point out is moving
yt09H_hrvPE-00732-00153103-00153214 towards that
yt09H_hrvPE-00733-00153215-00153495 uh prevention mindset how can i actually
yt09H_hrvPE-00734-00153496-00153614 put in place
yt09H_hrvPE-00735-00153615-00153959 uh capabilities controls that um reduce
yt09H_hrvPE-00736-00153960-00154151 the the potential for ransomware to get
yt09H_hrvPE-00737-00154152-00154311 into my environment and to be successful
yt09H_hrvPE-00738-00154312-00154471 in my environment so yeah i think it
yt09H_hrvPE-00739-00154472-00154623 makes a lot of sense
yt09H_hrvPE-00740-00154624-00154863 yeah but um
yt09H_hrvPE-00741-00154864-00155135 you know again our earlier comment about
yt09H_hrvPE-00742-00155136-00155366 the foundational aspect here that if you
yt09H_hrvPE-00743-00155367-00155599 set aside ransomware are these still
yt09H_hrvPE-00744-00155600-00155702 good
yt09H_hrvPE-00745-00155703-00156007 ideas it really sticks out here i i mean
yt09H_hrvPE-00746-00156008-00156199 you and i do a lot of these kinds of
yt09H_hrvPE-00747-00156200-00156399 discussions around different topics
yt09H_hrvPE-00748-00156400-00156590 sometimes it doesn't like you're talking
yt09H_hrvPE-00749-00156591-00156775 about a very specific kind of like a
yt09H_hrvPE-00750-00156776-00157014 network security problem like ddos you
yt09H_hrvPE-00751-00157015-00157199 wouldn't normally be sitting off in a
yt09H_hrvPE-00752-00157200-00157399 network filtering pack it's ridiculous
yt09H_hrvPE-00753-00157400-00157583 you're only doing because of that threat
yt09H_hrvPE-00754-00157584-00157835 this is totally different this is
yt09H_hrvPE-00755-00157836-00158095 spectacularly good housekeeping if you
yt09H_hrvPE-00756-00158096-00158359 move up in the maturity model and it
yt09H_hrvPE-00757-00158360-00158599 almost feels like there's there's no
yt09H_hrvPE-00758-00158600-00158878 better example of cios and csos working
yt09H_hrvPE-00759-00158879-00159047 together
yt09H_hrvPE-00760-00159048-00159263 than you know in dealing with ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00761-00159264-00159487 this is the ultimate opportunity for for
yt09H_hrvPE-00762-00159488-00159702 you going to clean up shop and really
yt09H_hrvPE-00763-00159703-00159911 focus on these foundations like i love
yt09H_hrvPE-00764-00159912-00160063 your point about
yt09H_hrvPE-00765-00160064-00160326 when you move up in the in the uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00766-00160327-00160590 maturity model here you don't think that
yt09H_hrvPE-00767-00160591-00160799 this just magically appears that's how
yt09H_hrvPE-00768-00160800-00161159 it seems to abort i've sat on you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00769-00161160-00161247 on
yt09H_hrvPE-00770-00161248-00161478 public boards large companies and banks
yt09H_hrvPE-00771-00161479-00161590 and so on
yt09H_hrvPE-00772-00161591-00161783 and their perception is exactly what you
yt09H_hrvPE-00773-00161784-00162183 said that you're a sitting duck somehow
yt09H_hrvPE-00774-00162184-00162414 and it's just like this drive-by thing
yt09H_hrvPE-00775-00162415-00162543 that happens
yt09H_hrvPE-00776-00162544-00162775 and a and a stray ransomware bullet hits
yt09H_hrvPE-00777-00162776-00162943 you and there's not much you could have
yt09H_hrvPE-00778-00162944-00163214 done about it that's the wrong mental
yt09H_hrvPE-00779-00163215-00163511 image of what's going on here that's not
yt09H_hrvPE-00780-00163512-00163766 that's not right it might be a disease
yt09H_hrvPE-00781-00163767-00163983 model would be a little bit more
yt09H_hrvPE-00782-00163984-00164207 appropriate where you probably can avoid
yt09H_hrvPE-00783-00164208-00164447 sometimes you can't but you can take
yt09H_hrvPE-00784-00164448-00164735 very strong steps to avoid a ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-00785-00164736-00164926 attack and i think at that intermediate
yt09H_hrvPE-00786-00164927-00165223 level of maturity you actually recognize
yt09H_hrvPE-00787-00165224-00165359 that and you're trying to be a little
yt09H_hrvPE-00788-00165360-00165566 more proactive than just running uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00789-00165567-00165783 anti-malware backups
yt09H_hrvPE-00790-00165784-00165919 that's interesting you know when you as
yt09H_hrvPE-00791-00165920-00166047 you were describing that the first thing
yt09H_hrvPE-00792-00166048-00166254 that came to my mind was a submarine for
yt09H_hrvPE-00793-00166255-00166478 some reason and this idea that it's it's
yt09H_hrvPE-00794-00166479-00166671 under the water you don't see it you
yt09H_hrvPE-00795-00166672-00166895 don't see until it pops up somewhere
yt09H_hrvPE-00796-00166896-00167054 where you didn't expect it
yt09H_hrvPE-00797-00167055-00167407 um and that that idea that that uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00798-00167408-00167566 you know it somehow got there magically
yt09H_hrvPE-00799-00167567-00167711 and didn't have to travel you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00800-00167712-00167951 ransomware has to travel um but if you
yt09H_hrvPE-00801-00167952-00168038 read
yt09H_hrvPE-00802-00168039-00168247 uh you know the the news about
yt09H_hrvPE-00803-00168248-00168463 ransomware incidents they they don't
yt09H_hrvPE-00804-00168464-00168623 focus on
yt09H_hrvPE-00805-00168624-00168854 how the ransomware got in how it got to
yt09H_hrvPE-00806-00168855-00169095 the the sensitive data that actually is
yt09H_hrvPE-00807-00169096-00169335 worth encrypting and ransoming
yt09H_hrvPE-00808-00169336-00169502 um how it extracted the data they focus
yt09H_hrvPE-00809-00169503-00169631 more on the ransomware itself and the
yt09H_hrvPE-00810-00169632-00169799 behavior of the organization
yt09H_hrvPE-00811-00169800-00169935 in part because that's interesting but
yt09H_hrvPE-00812-00169936-00170126 also in part because it's it's really
yt09H_hrvPE-00813-00170127-00170423 difficult uh to do the forensics to
yt09H_hrvPE-00814-00170424-00170599 understand exactly what happened in a
yt09H_hrvPE-00815-00170600-00170823 ransomware incident from start to finish
yt09H_hrvPE-00816-00170824-00170943 um and
yt09H_hrvPE-00817-00170944-00171119 you know people who are writing uh
yt09H_hrvPE-00818-00171120-00171254 writing articles news articles about it
yt09H_hrvPE-00819-00171255-00171375 they have deadlines and they can't wait
yt09H_hrvPE-00820-00171376-00171543 for that forensics to
yt09H_hrvPE-00821-00171544-00171687 to happen for sure
yt09H_hrvPE-00822-00171688-00171838 i'm glad you brought the submarine
yt09H_hrvPE-00823-00171839-00172071 because it would be impossible for two
yt09H_hrvPE-00824-00172072-00172271 security guys not to have at least one
yt09H_hrvPE-00825-00172272-00172511 visual metaphor when we're dealing with
yt09H_hrvPE-00826-00172512-00172719 any kind of that it's almost like the
yt09H_hrvPE-00827-00172720-00172919 law if we didn't now that we can check
yt09H_hrvPE-00828-00172920-00173095 the box that we've done at least one
yt09H_hrvPE-00829-00173096-00173254 maybe we can come up with another but it
yt09H_hrvPE-00830-00173255-00173343 is
yt09H_hrvPE-00831-00173344-00173607 that that that image does make a lot of
yt09H_hrvPE-00832-00173608-00173711 sense
yt09H_hrvPE-00833-00173712-00173878 beneath the surface couldn't see it and
yt09H_hrvPE-00834-00173879-00174111 then boom it hit you i i think that
yt09H_hrvPE-00835-00174112-00174335 that's right that is how a lot of people
yt09H_hrvPE-00836-00174336-00174566 view this and don't realize that you
yt09H_hrvPE-00837-00174567-00174799 actually can go under the water and look
yt09H_hrvPE-00838-00174800-00175031 and and and get early
yt09H_hrvPE-00839-00175032-00175295 it's probably a good lead-in to the
yt09H_hrvPE-00840-00175296-00175599 advanced uh level yeah it actually yeah
yt09H_hrvPE-00841-00175600-00175783 that's interesting
yt09H_hrvPE-00842-00175784-00175902 well we're going to talk about a
yt09H_hrvPE-00843-00175903-00176071 particular control at the advanced level
yt09H_hrvPE-00844-00176072-00176183 and i'll come back maybe to that
yt09H_hrvPE-00845-00176184-00176407 submarine metaphor
yt09H_hrvPE-00846-00176408-00176623 but at this intermediate level you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00847-00176624-00176814 the controls that we talked about to to
yt09H_hrvPE-00848-00176815-00177014 focus for a second on that um we talked
yt09H_hrvPE-00849-00177015-00177199 about email security i think as you
yt09H_hrvPE-00850-00177200-00177311 pointed out
yt09H_hrvPE-00851-00177312-00177607 you know the data shows that um email is
yt09H_hrvPE-00852-00177608-00177799 a is a primary
yt09H_hrvPE-00853-00177800-00178054 initial vector for ransomware and i say
yt09H_hrvPE-00854-00178055-00178326 initial quite intentionally um we talked
yt09H_hrvPE-00855-00178327-00178519 about so the foundational controls
yt09H_hrvPE-00856-00178520-00178719 vulnerability management
yt09H_hrvPE-00857-00178720-00178926 and configuration management so
yt09H_hrvPE-00858-00178927-00179126 making sure that you've
yt09H_hrvPE-00859-00179127-00179326 your patching vulnerabilities might not
yt09H_hrvPE-00860-00179327-00179487 be able to patch all of them but every
yt09H_hrvPE-00861-00179488-00179711 vulnerability you patch is a reduction
yt09H_hrvPE-00862-00179712-00179902 in your attack surface and if you can
yt09H_hrvPE-00863-00179903-00180143 prioritize in a meaningful way
yt09H_hrvPE-00864-00180144-00180278 what vulnerabilities you're addressing
yt09H_hrvPE-00865-00180279-00180454 first you can you can focus on those
yt09H_hrvPE-00866-00180455-00180599 that are likely to have the biggest
yt09H_hrvPE-00867-00180600-00180799 impact from a prevention standpoint and
yt09H_hrvPE-00868-00180800-00180951 then the configuration management
yt09H_hrvPE-00869-00180952-00181126 focusing on
yt09H_hrvPE-00870-00181127-00181343 are your your systems are your assets
yt09H_hrvPE-00871-00181344-00181519 configured securely
yt09H_hrvPE-00872-00181520-00181711 do they match for example an industry
yt09H_hrvPE-00873-00181712-00181990 standard like cis or nist there's plenty
yt09H_hrvPE-00874-00181991-00182166 of guidance out there for how to
yt09H_hrvPE-00875-00182167-00182399 configure your environment securely um
yt09H_hrvPE-00876-00182400-00182535 that can really help
yt09H_hrvPE-00877-00182536-00182671 um
yt09H_hrvPE-00878-00182672-00182847 uh if you're not sure where to start and
yt09H_hrvPE-00879-00182848-00182999 that that brings us up i think to that
yt09H_hrvPE-00880-00183000-00183159 that intermediate level pretty pretty
yt09H_hrvPE-00881-00183160-00183366 clearly anything we missed in there ed
yt09H_hrvPE-00882-00183367-00183575 well i mean email security is an
yt09H_hrvPE-00883-00183576-00183814 outsized issue at this point like it's
yt09H_hrvPE-00884-00183815-00184143 um maybe temporary but right now
yt09H_hrvPE-00885-00184144-00184375 the fishing issue has reached a
yt09H_hrvPE-00886-00184376-00184566 crescendo and
yt09H_hrvPE-00887-00184567-00184790 people are complaining that their segs
yt09H_hrvPE-00888-00184791-00184911 are not
yt09H_hrvPE-00889-00184912-00185038 you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00890-00185039-00185311 filtering at a a high enough rate like
yt09H_hrvPE-00891-00185312-00185671 there's too much uh you know the um
yt09H_hrvPE-00892-00185672-00185878 stuff getting through like things that i
yt09H_hrvPE-00893-00185879-00186071 would see in her inbox and go ah what's
yt09H_hrvPE-00894-00186072-00186278 this doing here i'm running a set again
yt09H_hrvPE-00895-00186279-00186590 you've got this gauntlet of your sag and
yt09H_hrvPE-00896-00186591-00186807 and i'm and not to mention that every
yt09H_hrvPE-00897-00186808-00187023 isp already
yt09H_hrvPE-00898-00187024-00187319 is starting by not lopping off 90
yt09H_hrvPE-00899-00187320-00187487 something percent of the trash that's
yt09H_hrvPE-00900-00187488-00187638 coming at you most people don't realize
yt09H_hrvPE-00901-00187639-00187775 that that
yt09H_hrvPE-00902-00187776-00188023 embedded in the infrastructure there's
yt09H_hrvPE-00903-00188024-00188319 automation that's looking at senders and
yt09H_hrvPE-00904-00188320-00188511 seeing that if a bunch of space junk is
yt09H_hrvPE-00905-00188512-00188623 coming from
yt09H_hrvPE-00906-00188624-00188831 a source of xyz
yt09H_hrvPE-00907-00188832-00189014 you know over some period of time it
yt09H_hrvPE-00908-00189015-00189302 just gets dropped so you don't even see
yt09H_hrvPE-00909-00189303-00189511 that and then the stuff that passes that
yt09H_hrvPE-00910-00189512-00189702 go out and hit your sag
yt09H_hrvPE-00911-00189703-00189895 and you've got your rules coded into
yt09H_hrvPE-00912-00189896-00190054 that stuff that gets through maybe
yt09H_hrvPE-00913-00190055-00190238 there's some back end tool that you do
yt09H_hrvPE-00914-00190239-00190438 with crowdsourcing or
yt09H_hrvPE-00915-00190439-00190726 vid or image processing or some
yt09H_hrvPE-00916-00190727-00190902 additional type of thing and then it
yt09H_hrvPE-00917-00190903-00191047 gets the inbox and you've got all these
yt09H_hrvPE-00918-00191048-00191238 training programs where you're trying to
yt09H_hrvPE-00919-00191239-00191478 help people and there's banners and i
yt09H_hrvPE-00920-00191479-00191671 teach you and be careful
yt09H_hrvPE-00921-00191672-00191950 even with all of that
yt09H_hrvPE-00922-00191951-00192119 people are still clicking
yt09H_hrvPE-00923-00192120-00192295 it's still an incredibly successful
yt09H_hrvPE-00924-00192296-00192447 vector for the attackers
yt09H_hrvPE-00925-00192448-00192687 that this thing still because i think
yt09H_hrvPE-00926-00192688-00192871 it's because
yt09H_hrvPE-00927-00192872-00193238 email has become such a spectacularly
yt09H_hrvPE-00928-00193239-00193526 pervasive tool for communication i'd
yt09H_hrvPE-00929-00193527-00193799 always thought 10 15 years ago
yt09H_hrvPE-00930-00193800-00193935 you know when my kids were younger
yt09H_hrvPE-00931-00193936-00194166 they're all you know out of college now
yt09H_hrvPE-00932-00194167-00194278 i thought by the time they got out of
yt09H_hrvPE-00933-00194279-00194431 college who the heck's going to use
yt09H_hrvPE-00934-00194432-00194702 email again that's so 1992.
yt09H_hrvPE-00935-00194703-00194943 you know but i i was wrong it's turned
yt09H_hrvPE-00936-00194944-00195054 out to be a
yt09H_hrvPE-00937-00195055-00195278 surprisingly resilient
yt09H_hrvPE-00938-00195279-00195447 form of communication business
yt09H_hrvPE-00939-00195448-00195647 communication i mean didn't you think
yt09H_hrvPE-00940-00195648-00195895 remember we used to write e dash mail
yt09H_hrvPE-00941-00195896-00196102 like it's just like it's just such an
yt09H_hrvPE-00942-00196103-00196263 old thing
yt09H_hrvPE-00943-00196264-00196543 um but it remains the staple of
yt09H_hrvPE-00944-00196544-00196678 communication
yt09H_hrvPE-00945-00196679-00196926 and it's given the attackers a a good
yt09H_hrvPE-00946-00196927-00197054 framework
yt09H_hrvPE-00947-00197055-00197350 for for building um campaigns because
yt09H_hrvPE-00948-00197351-00197614 they understand it as well as we do if
yt09H_hrvPE-00949-00197615-00197935 not better if not better so it's so i
yt09H_hrvPE-00950-00197936-00198159 would say that that's outsized i don't
yt09H_hrvPE-00951-00198160-00198359 think that's going to be forever
yt09H_hrvPE-00952-00198360-00198638 but i do think vulnerability management
yt09H_hrvPE-00953-00198639-00198878 will be forever i think that you'll
yt09H_hrvPE-00954-00198879-00199102 always have to do
yt09H_hrvPE-00955-00199103-00199366 you always have to be on your guard
yt09H_hrvPE-00956-00199367-00199519 with partners
yt09H_hrvPE-00957-00199520-00199759 with your service providers with your
yt09H_hrvPE-00958-00199760-00200023 technology providers with your it team
yt09H_hrvPE-00959-00200024-00200283 to make sure that you have a pretty good
yt09H_hrvPE-00960-00200284-00200511 understanding on a minute-by-minute
yt09H_hrvPE-00961-00200512-00200614 basis
yt09H_hrvPE-00962-00200615-00200807 of what vulnerabilities exist that can
yt09H_hrvPE-00963-00200808-00200975 come back to get you it's not always
yt09H_hrvPE-00964-00200976-00201183 just going to be this email thing that
yt09H_hrvPE-00965-00201184-00201431 will change the vulnerability management
yt09H_hrvPE-00966-00201432-00201623 that that will that's unfortunately not
yt09H_hrvPE-00967-00201624-00201743 going to change
yt09H_hrvPE-00968-00201744-00201895 it's interesting you know as you say
yt09H_hrvPE-00969-00201896-00202135 that i i i'm surprised to think about
yt09H_hrvPE-00970-00202136-00202263 how
yt09H_hrvPE-00971-00202264-00202575 how little email has really changed over
yt09H_hrvPE-00972-00202576-00202895 that 10 15 20 year time span
yt09H_hrvPE-00973-00202896-00203054 it's you know there are lots of new
yt09H_hrvPE-00974-00203055-00203214 controls and capabilities but
yt09H_hrvPE-00975-00203215-00203431 fundamentally at its core it stayed
yt09H_hrvPE-00976-00203432-00203550 pretty static
yt09H_hrvPE-00977-00203551-00203919 same thing even
yt09H_hrvPE-00978-00203920-00204214 i was when i first saw dkim and spf i
yt09H_hrvPE-00979-00204215-00204350 was you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00980-00204351-00204566 very big proponent of all of that i had
yt09H_hrvPE-00981-00204567-00204735 a number of folks on my team
yt09H_hrvPE-00982-00204736-00204927 contributing to the standard when i saw
yt09H_hrvPE-00983-00204928-00205214 dmarc came out i thought this is great
yt09H_hrvPE-00984-00205215-00205398 and a lot of people do a lot you know
yt09H_hrvPE-00985-00205400-00205590 publish dmarc records but how many
yt09H_hrvPE-00986-00205591-00205894 people really max out their willingness
yt09H_hrvPE-00987-00205896-00206303 to drop based on properly marked email
yt09H_hrvPE-00988-00206304-00206503 it hasn't sort of reached the point
yt09H_hrvPE-00989-00206504-00206719 where we've all jumped in at once
yt09H_hrvPE-00990-00206719-00206894 because you have to everybody has to do
yt09H_hrvPE-00991-00206896-00207094 it at once yeah so i've been
yt09H_hrvPE-00992-00207096-00207319 disappointed that
yt09H_hrvPE-00993-00207319-00207710 even things like um encrypted email yeah
yt09H_hrvPE-00994-00207711-00207927 it it just hasn't
yt09H_hrvPE-00995-00207928-00208119 caught on like if any of the folks
yt09H_hrvPE-00996-00208119-00208342 watching us right now
yt09H_hrvPE-00997-00208344-00208503 wanted to send
yt09H_hrvPE-00998-00208504-00208806 you tim or me an encrypted email they'd
yt09H_hrvPE-00999-00208807-00209062 have to do something first i know they
yt09H_hrvPE-01000-00209063-00209310 could figure it out but it's not just
yt09H_hrvPE-01001-00209311-00209542 automatic that i can encrypt an email to
yt09H_hrvPE-01002-00209544-00209751 you whereas if i've got a website
yt09H_hrvPE-01003-00209752-00209982 admittedly i'm off talking to a ca and
yt09H_hrvPE-01004-00209983-00210175 setting myself up but i can sell
yt09H_hrvPE-01005-00210176-00210303 something to you without having
yt09H_hrvPE-01006-00210304-00210542 interacted with you ever before
yt09H_hrvPE-01007-00210544-00210758 and through the magic of diffie-hellman
yt09H_hrvPE-01008-00210759-00211055 and ssl i can sell it to you securely
yt09H_hrvPE-01009-00211056-00211287 email's not at that point we just have
yt09H_hrvPE-01010-00211288-00211591 not gotten to that point i wonder if
yt09H_hrvPE-01011-00211592-00211823 with google and microsoft
yt09H_hrvPE-01012-00211823-00212046 maybe at some point we will we can sort
yt09H_hrvPE-01013-00212048-00212319 of cajole them to to improve matters
yt09H_hrvPE-01014-00212319-00212542 somewhat that's why i really do believe
yt09H_hrvPE-01015-00212544-00212742 email will get better
yt09H_hrvPE-01016-00212744-00212951 but vulnerabilities will always be
yt09H_hrvPE-01017-00212952-00213175 present that's just it'll just shift to
yt09H_hrvPE-01018-00213176-00213319 other things you got to do a
yt09H_hrvPE-01019-00213319-00213494 vulnerability management program no
yt09H_hrvPE-01020-00213496-00213687 matter what
yt09H_hrvPE-01021-00213688-00213846 all right well let's let's move off of
yt09H_hrvPE-01022-00213848-00213991 the intermediate and talk a little bit
yt09H_hrvPE-01023-00213992-00214239 about advanced at this point so
yt09H_hrvPE-01024-00214240-00214351 you know moving away from the
yt09H_hrvPE-01025-00214352-00214542 foundational controls once you've you've
yt09H_hrvPE-01026-00214544-00214679 sort of gotten that taken care of you
yt09H_hrvPE-01027-00214680-00214879 feel like you're you're good there
yt09H_hrvPE-01028-00214880-00215198 what do we think of uh as advanced
yt09H_hrvPE-01029-00215200-00215431 uh controls or or capabilities around
yt09H_hrvPE-01030-00215432-00215598 ransomware what falls into that category
yt09H_hrvPE-01031-00215600-00215694 for you
yt09H_hrvPE-01032-00215696-00215831 well first of all i'm supposed to be an
yt09H_hrvPE-01033-00215832-00216110 unbiased uh analyst
yt09H_hrvPE-01034-00216111-00216367 but i will admit that this is a place
yt09H_hrvPE-01035-00216367-00216551 where tripwire's pretty good like if
yt09H_hrvPE-01036-00216552-00216791 you're if you're looking to get to that
yt09H_hrvPE-01037-00216792-00217023 next level when i read the brochures and
yt09H_hrvPE-01038-00217023-00217206 i've sat through so many briefings from
yt09H_hrvPE-01039-00217207-00217375 you guys this is where you guys are
yt09H_hrvPE-01040-00217376-00217551 pretty good you know we're in integrity
yt09H_hrvPE-01041-00217552-00217846 monitoring and we really like let's
yt09H_hrvPE-01042-00217848-00218023 start with lateral movement that would
yt09H_hrvPE-01043-00218023-00218303 strike me as the first things that
yt09H_hrvPE-01044-00218304-00218615 is pretty essential you and i both know
yt09H_hrvPE-01045-00218616-00218782 you said it before i thought it said it
yt09H_hrvPE-01046-00218783-00218934 pretty well it's not this magic thing
yt09H_hrvPE-01047-00218935-00219175 that happens it's this thing so i always
yt09H_hrvPE-01048-00219176-00219406 think of ransomware as ransomware ops
yt09H_hrvPE-01049-00219407-00219631 it's not that different from apt that
yt09H_hrvPE-01050-00219632-00219815 all these stages
yt09H_hrvPE-01051-00219816-00220079 of activity come in through fish you're
yt09H_hrvPE-01052-00220080-00220319 going to gain permissions and advance
yt09H_hrvPE-01053-00220319-00220463 your privilege you're going to laterally
yt09H_hrvPE-01054-00220464-00220663 move all that stuff
yt09H_hrvPE-01055-00220664-00220927 and and a team that's at the advanced
yt09H_hrvPE-01056-00220928-00221103 level here where you're dealing with
yt09H_hrvPE-01057-00221104-00221463 ransomware is using the same techniques
yt09H_hrvPE-01058-00221464-00221679 that you'd use to stop a nation state
yt09H_hrvPE-01059-00221680-00221919 from coming at you from traversing to
yt09H_hrvPE-01060-00221919-00222206 stop ransomware and that's the secret
yt09H_hrvPE-01061-00222207-00222551 that it's not that ransomware is this
yt09H_hrvPE-01062-00222552-00222846 thing that hits you and i just need a v
yt09H_hrvPE-01063-00222848-00223103 on my end points more good
yt09H_hrvPE-01064-00223104-00223382 when you accept that ransomware is in
yt09H_hrvPE-01065-00223383-00223606 the same category as these more advanced
yt09H_hrvPE-01066-00223607-00223823 operations then you've reached that
yt09H_hrvPE-01067-00223823-00224006 level that advanced level because you
yt09H_hrvPE-01068-00224007-00224215 realize it's it's good news bad news
yt09H_hrvPE-01069-00224216-00224406 good news is you get it the bad news is
yt09H_hrvPE-01070-00224407-00224646 you get it
yt09H_hrvPE-01071-00224648-00224934 like uh oh this is a little harder than
yt09H_hrvPE-01072-00224935-00225263 i thought i i see which mean wow i need
yt09H_hrvPE-01073-00225264-00225519 to focus on detecting look for early
yt09H_hrvPE-01074-00225519-00225687 indicators check
yt09H_hrvPE-01075-00225688-00225927 i need to make sure lateral traversal
yt09H_hrvPE-01076-00225928-00226198 and so on is covered check
yt09H_hrvPE-01077-00226200-00226375 i need to make sure i don't have any you
yt09H_hrvPE-01078-00226376-00226542 know systems that are in bed i'd start
yt09H_hrvPE-01079-00226544-00226742 at the hardware and harden everything up
yt09H_hrvPE-01080-00226744-00226998 and get all the vulnerable check i did
yt09H_hrvPE-01081-00227000-00227255 do integrity monitoring of my files and
yt09H_hrvPE-01082-00227256-00227406 if you're
yt09H_hrvPE-01083-00227407-00227694 those are that when you're doing that
yt09H_hrvPE-01084-00227696-00227958 you've got an advanced cyber security
yt09H_hrvPE-01085-00227959-00228206 program for your enterprise all good
yt09H_hrvPE-01086-00228207-00228358 stuff to do
yt09H_hrvPE-01087-00228359-00228575 but all things that will
yt09H_hrvPE-01088-00228576-00228846 ultimately really reduce the ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01089-00228848-00229046 risk way down from that
yt09H_hrvPE-01090-00229048-00229239 earlier basic level am i hitting the
yt09H_hrvPE-01091-00229240-00229382 right things you you agree with the
yt09H_hrvPE-01092-00229383-00229606 points here i do i think you you touched
yt09H_hrvPE-01093-00229607-00229719 on the
yt09H_hrvPE-01094-00229719-00229871 the lateral movement which i think is
yt09H_hrvPE-01095-00229871-00230175 key the early detection so this movement
yt09H_hrvPE-01096-00230176-00230391 from i'm going to detect ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01097-00230392-00230534 close to the point at which it's asking
yt09H_hrvPE-01098-00230535-00230646 for the ransomware to i'm going to
yt09H_hrvPE-01099-00230648-00230806 detect its behavior
yt09H_hrvPE-01100-00230807-00231055 earlier in its process um
yt09H_hrvPE-01101-00231056-00231287 and and you know further harden my
yt09H_hrvPE-01102-00231288-00231567 environment so that it's harder for that
yt09H_hrvPE-01103-00231567-00231815 ransomware to step through those those
yt09H_hrvPE-01104-00231816-00231991 steps that it needs to take
yt09H_hrvPE-01105-00231992-00232079 um
yt09H_hrvPE-01106-00232080-00232223 i wanted to come back to the the
yt09H_hrvPE-01107-00232223-00232455 submarine metaphor because
yt09H_hrvPE-01108-00232456-00232534 um
yt09H_hrvPE-01109-00232535-00232703 that idea of you can you can get into
yt09H_hrvPE-01110-00232704-00232855 the water and see the submarine before
yt09H_hrvPE-01111-00232856-00232998 it it pops up
yt09H_hrvPE-01112-00233000-00233271 uh is an interesting one that's to me
yt09H_hrvPE-01113-00233271-00233406 that fits well with this idea that
yt09H_hrvPE-01114-00233407-00233582 ransomware you know it enters somewhere
yt09H_hrvPE-01115-00233583-00233798 it's under the surface and if you can
yt09H_hrvPE-01116-00233800-00233942 find it while it's under the surface you
yt09H_hrvPE-01117-00233944-00234231 can be better prepared to respond to it
yt09H_hrvPE-01118-00234232-00234423 and even if you can't see the submarine
yt09H_hrvPE-01119-00234423-00234703 itself what you ca it can't move through
yt09H_hrvPE-01120-00234704-00234967 the water without displacing some of it
yt09H_hrvPE-01121-00234967-00235198 without creating a
yt09H_hrvPE-01122-00235200-00235423 awake and movement and that's where i
yt09H_hrvPE-01123-00235423-00235510 see
yt09H_hrvPE-01124-00235511-00235671 change detection and integrity
yt09H_hrvPE-01125-00235671-00235863 monitoring as being valuable
yt09H_hrvPE-01126-00235864-00236006 especially at that advanced level
yt09H_hrvPE-01127-00236007-00236198 because whatever that ransomware is
yt09H_hrvPE-01128-00236200-00236375 doing it's got to make an impact in
yt09H_hrvPE-01129-00236376-00236519 terms of changing something in your
yt09H_hrvPE-01130-00236519-00236655 environment whether it's a file that
yt09H_hrvPE-01131-00236656-00236879 shows up on a system whether it's a
yt09H_hrvPE-01132-00236880-00237182 privilege escalation um you know event
yt09H_hrvPE-01133-00237183-00237294 that occurs
yt09H_hrvPE-01134-00237296-00237439 those are changes that occur in the
yt09H_hrvPE-01135-00237440-00237575 environment and if you're monitoring for
yt09H_hrvPE-01136-00237576-00237694 those changes
yt09H_hrvPE-01137-00237696-00237855 certainly maybe not the first thing you
yt09H_hrvPE-01138-00237856-00237991 want to implement you know put the
yt09H_hrvPE-01139-00237992-00238263 anti-malware in place first uh you know
yt09H_hrvPE-01140-00238264-00238479 pardon the configurations first but then
yt09H_hrvPE-01141-00238480-00238631 start watching the environment for those
yt09H_hrvPE-01142-00238632-00238806 changes that indicate there's something
yt09H_hrvPE-01143-00238807-00238927 going on
yt09H_hrvPE-01144-00238928-00239071 and if you can do that i think you've
yt09H_hrvPE-01145-00239071-00239223 certainly moved up to that that advanced
yt09H_hrvPE-01146-00239223-00239542 level in terms of uh malware response
yt09H_hrvPE-01147-00239544-00239727 and malware mitigation
yt09H_hrvPE-01148-00239728-00239919 i mean change detection is a great
yt09H_hrvPE-01149-00239919-00240087 phrase it's something anyone can
yt09H_hrvPE-01150-00240088-00240198 understand
yt09H_hrvPE-01151-00240200-00240439 the keywords or buzzwords that one
yt09H_hrvPE-01152-00240440-00240679 should be watching for from vendors
yt09H_hrvPE-01153-00240680-00240815 would be things like behavioral
yt09H_hrvPE-01154-00240816-00241055 analytics or profile based monitoring
yt09H_hrvPE-01155-00241056-00241271 these are like the the marketing
yt09H_hrvPE-01156-00241271-00241471 designations that people would put on
yt09H_hrvPE-01157-00241471-00241727 their product it's funny i i knew you're
yt09H_hrvPE-01158-00241728-00241967 an expert at this i i don't think i can
yt09H_hrvPE-01159-00241967-00242151 remember too many companies writing
yt09H_hrvPE-01160-00242152-00242319 change detection but it seems like they
yt09H_hrvPE-01161-00242319-00242542 should that's a simpler way
yt09H_hrvPE-01162-00242544-00242775 i like i get it immediately versus you
yt09H_hrvPE-01163-00242776-00242982 know advanced heuristic behavioral
yt09H_hrvPE-01164-00242983-00243206 activity monitoring based on proposal i
yt09H_hrvPE-01165-00243207-00243342 got
yt09H_hrvPE-01166-00243344-00243582 written by a computer scientist but
yt09H_hrvPE-01167-00243583-00243791 change detection is in fact the thing
yt09H_hrvPE-01168-00243792-00243994 you're looking for and then i want
yt09H_hrvPE-01169-00243996-00244175 confirmation
yt09H_hrvPE-01170-00244176-00244415 that the change is valid like and that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01171-00244416-00244558 where right you know that's where the
yt09H_hrvPE-01172-00244559-00244751 intelligence comes in i don't think
yt09H_hrvPE-01173-00244752-00245023 machine learning has gotten to the point
yt09H_hrvPE-01174-00245023-00245351 where it surpasses basic behavioral
yt09H_hrvPE-01175-00245352-00245582 profiling i think behavioral analytics
yt09H_hrvPE-01176-00245583-00245910 today 2021 are still the best way to
yt09H_hrvPE-01177-00245911-00246223 detect change but ml is getting there
yt09H_hrvPE-01178-00246223-00246423 and and i think eventually the two will
yt09H_hrvPE-01179-00246423-00246703 work together but right now with profile
yt09H_hrvPE-01180-00246704-00247046 profile based uh tools
yt09H_hrvPE-01181-00247048-00247198 i think there are there are certain
yt09H_hrvPE-01182-00247200-00247358 certainly simple steps you can take
yt09H_hrvPE-01183-00247359-00247551 before you get to ml that are are
yt09H_hrvPE-01184-00247552-00247719 possibly more effective in most
yt09H_hrvPE-01185-00247719-00247871 environments things like
yt09H_hrvPE-01186-00247871-00248015 you know can you can you identify
yt09H_hrvPE-01187-00248016-00248191 changes that occur outside of a change
yt09H_hrvPE-01188-00248192-00248367 window if you've gone to the trouble of
yt09H_hrvPE-01189-00248367-00248575 putting in place a change window you
yt09H_hrvPE-01190-00248576-00248710 know the changes that occur outside of
yt09H_hrvPE-01191-00248711-00248934 that window are worth investigating
yt09H_hrvPE-01192-00248935-00249119 can you match changes
yt09H_hrvPE-01193-00249119-00249342 back to a change request ticket again if
yt09H_hrvPE-01194-00249344-00249591 you've put in place the rigor to create
yt09H_hrvPE-01195-00249592-00249855 a workflow around changes um
yt09H_hrvPE-01196-00249856-00250006 identifying the changes that aren't tied
yt09H_hrvPE-01197-00250007-00250158 to that workflow is a good indicator
yt09H_hrvPE-01198-00250159-00250327 that something is going on whether it's
yt09H_hrvPE-01199-00250328-00250503 ransomware or something else that
yt09H_hrvPE-01200-00250504-00250710 warrants some investigation
yt09H_hrvPE-01201-00250711-00250855 and putting in place a process to do
yt09H_hrvPE-01202-00250856-00251055 that ultimately reduces unplanned change
yt09H_hrvPE-01203-00251056-00251246 in your environment and unplanned change
yt09H_hrvPE-01204-00251248-00251503 is a is a key uh you know cause for
yt09H_hrvPE-01205-00251504-00251694 outages in general whether security or
yt09H_hrvPE-01206-00251696-00251927 not so there's certainly benefit there
yt09H_hrvPE-01207-00251928-00252079 you know a little pet peeve that i'll
yt09H_hrvPE-01208-00252080-00252303 share and and and i think at tripwire
yt09H_hrvPE-01209-00252304-00252575 you guys do this well but some companies
yt09H_hrvPE-01210-00252576-00252719 don't where they'll talk about machine
yt09H_hrvPE-01211-00252719-00252934 learning or behavioral analytics or some
yt09H_hrvPE-01212-00252935-00253055 algorithm
yt09H_hrvPE-01213-00253056-00253358 and when a cso asks for an explanation
yt09H_hrvPE-01214-00253359-00253487 of how it works
yt09H_hrvPE-01215-00253488-00253671 i hope that people listening will absorb
yt09H_hrvPE-01216-00253671-00253942 this you should be able to understand
yt09H_hrvPE-01217-00253944-00254094 how they describe they should be able to
yt09H_hrvPE-01218-00254096-00254279 put it in terms
yt09H_hrvPE-01219-00254280-00254519 that can make sense to you if they start
yt09H_hrvPE-01220-00254519-00254727 lobbing a bunch of math terms and
yt09H_hrvPE-01221-00254728-00255023 nonsense and you're talking to a i'm an
yt09H_hrvPE-01222-00255023-00255206 academic i
yt09H_hrvPE-01223-00255207-00255439 feel throwing all that math stuff at you
yt09H_hrvPE-01224-00255440-00255687 then that means they don't understand it
yt09H_hrvPE-01225-00255688-00255863 they should be able to describe it to
yt09H_hrvPE-01226-00255864-00256142 you in a way using you know it could
yt09H_hrvPE-01227-00256144-00256367 even be another one of these metaphors
yt09H_hrvPE-01228-00256367-00256494 but
yt09H_hrvPE-01229-00256496-00256734 but demand that if they say i'm using
yt09H_hrvPE-01230-00256735-00256927 machine learning to do such and such
yt09H_hrvPE-01231-00256928-00257039 then they should be able to say
yt09H_hrvPE-01232-00257040-00257246 something simple like well when you make
yt09H_hrvPE-01233-00257248-00257463 a change we look at different attributes
yt09H_hrvPE-01234-00257464-00257679 we built a model that shows that if the
yt09H_hrvPE-01235-00257680-00257846 ratio of this to that
yt09H_hrvPE-01236-00257848-00258039 looks a lot of whack a lot of times that
yt09H_hrvPE-01237-00258040-00258198 change is no good
yt09H_hrvPE-01238-00258200-00258358 and and that way it'd be outside the
yt09H_hrvPE-01239-00258359-00258551 model and we'd flag it like they should
yt09H_hrvPE-01240-00258552-00258775 be able to describe these things you
yt09H_hrvPE-01241-00258776-00259071 simply if they can't i'd i'd run for the
yt09H_hrvPE-01242-00259071-00259271 hills i think when a vendor can't
yt09H_hrvPE-01243-00259271-00259510 describe their technology that is a
yt09H_hrvPE-01244-00259511-00259687 problem again tim it's one of the things
yt09H_hrvPE-01245-00259688-00259863 i've liked about working with you guys
yt09H_hrvPE-01246-00259864-00260055 yeah i've always felt like uh tripwire
yt09H_hrvPE-01247-00260056-00260303 is an iconic company you guys have been
yt09H_hrvPE-01248-00260304-00260527 at this a long time but it's one of the
yt09H_hrvPE-01249-00260528-00260663 strengths of the firm you guys have
yt09H_hrvPE-01250-00260664-00260855 always been good at explaining certainly
yt09H_hrvPE-01251-00260856-00261055 to me and to customers
yt09H_hrvPE-01252-00261056-00261246 what the dickens you're doing and that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01253-00261248-00261398 why i think you guys have had some
yt09H_hrvPE-01254-00261400-00261615 success so i hope that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01255-00261616-00261839 advice that people will take to heart
yt09H_hrvPE-01256-00261840-00262142 yeah absolutely so um ed i think we
yt09H_hrvPE-01257-00262144-00262334 covered the basic the intermediate the
yt09H_hrvPE-01258-00262335-00262606 advanced um i'm going to give folks a
yt09H_hrvPE-01259-00262607-00262830 chance to enter questions into the the q
yt09H_hrvPE-01260-00262831-00262910 a
yt09H_hrvPE-01261-00262911-00263103 box if they'd like to do so and i'm
yt09H_hrvPE-01262-00263104-00263327 going to take the time to spend uh two
yt09H_hrvPE-01263-00263328-00263543 short slides talking about uh tripwire
yt09H_hrvPE-01264-00263544-00263679 and ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01265-00263680-00263782 and then we'll come back to those
yt09H_hrvPE-01266-00263783-00263903 questions take a look at what's in there
yt09H_hrvPE-01267-00263904-00264095 and see if we can we can answer uh some
yt09H_hrvPE-01268-00264096-00264247 or all of them in the time that we've
yt09H_hrvPE-01269-00264248-00264423 got left good i'm looking forward to
yt09H_hrvPE-01270-00264424-00264615 seeing what you've got here
yt09H_hrvPE-01271-00264616-00264782 so when we talk about ransomware and
yt09H_hrvPE-01272-00264783-00265030 tripwire in particular i i wanted to to
yt09H_hrvPE-01273-00265031-00265191 lay out this um
yt09H_hrvPE-01274-00265192-00265399 you know sort of pre-compromise and
yt09H_hrvPE-01275-00265400-00265630 post-compromise perspective um which i
yt09H_hrvPE-01276-00265631-00265806 think ties well to the conversation we
yt09H_hrvPE-01277-00265807-00266110 just had um when you're looking at what
yt09H_hrvPE-01278-00266111-00266287 you can do prior to a compromise
yt09H_hrvPE-01279-00266288-00266527 occurring prior to that ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01280-00266528-00266671 you have capabilities like asset
yt09H_hrvPE-01281-00266672-00266791 discovery
yt09H_hrvPE-01282-00266792-00266934 security configuration assessment
yt09H_hrvPE-01283-00266935-00267134 vulnerability management really those
yt09H_hrvPE-01284-00267135-00267375 preventative controls that ensure that
yt09H_hrvPE-01285-00267376-00267599 you know what's in your environment that
yt09H_hrvPE-01286-00267600-00267799 it's configured as securely as you would
yt09H_hrvPE-01287-00267800-00268047 like it to be as securely as possible if
yt09H_hrvPE-01288-00268048-00268295 that's relevant and that you're managing
yt09H_hrvPE-01289-00268296-00268463 the vulnerabilities and that that really
yt09H_hrvPE-01290-00268464-00268815 lowers or reduces that attack surface
yt09H_hrvPE-01291-00268816-00268927 and then there are a number of
yt09H_hrvPE-01292-00268928-00269119 technologies and capabilities that
yt09H_hrvPE-01293-00269120-00269343 tripwire can provide that that work
yt09H_hrvPE-01294-00269344-00269567 at the point of compromise um so we
yt09H_hrvPE-01295-00269568-00269815 talked about integrity monitoring
yt09H_hrvPE-01296-00269816-00270158 uh as a way to detect uh ransomware in
yt09H_hrvPE-01297-00270159-00270406 your environment making lateral movement
yt09H_hrvPE-01298-00270407-00270679 um identifying those uh those changes
yt09H_hrvPE-01299-00270680-00270823 that occur so we'll put integrity
yt09H_hrvPE-01300-00270824-00271006 monitoring and change detection in that
yt09H_hrvPE-01301-00271007-00271279 that sort of uh detection category
yt09H_hrvPE-01302-00271280-00271615 tripwire also provides uh policy content
yt09H_hrvPE-01303-00271616-00271855 around the miter attack framework which
yt09H_hrvPE-01304-00271856-00272119 specifically looks for tools techniques
yt09H_hrvPE-01305-00272120-00272271 and procedures that may indicate a
yt09H_hrvPE-01306-00272272-00272399 compromise in your environment and
yt09H_hrvPE-01307-00272400-00272655 that's part of what we offer as well and
yt09H_hrvPE-01308-00272656-00272887 then finally tripar has this capability
yt09H_hrvPE-01309-00272888-00272991 to
yt09H_hrvPE-01310-00272992-00273151 integrate with
yt09H_hrvPE-01311-00273152-00273391 sandboxing tools for file execution
yt09H_hrvPE-01312-00273392-00273630 analysis so a common workflow in
yt09H_hrvPE-01313-00273631-00273863 tripwire is to detect a new file that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01314-00273864-00274047 shown up in your environment the next
yt09H_hrvPE-01315-00274048-00274279 step is to find out what that file is we
yt09H_hrvPE-01316-00274280-00274630 can hand that off to a sandboxing tool
yt09H_hrvPE-01317-00274631-00274839 like palo alto wildfire cisco threat
yt09H_hrvPE-01318-00274840-00275063 grid those kinds of tools
yt09H_hrvPE-01319-00275064-00275239 have it executed and return that file
yt09H_hrvPE-01320-00275240-00275471 analysis back into into tripwire
yt09H_hrvPE-01321-00275472-00275623 products so that you've automated that
yt09H_hrvPE-01322-00275624-00275855 workflow around identifying how new
yt09H_hrvPE-01323-00275856-00276103 files behave in your environment
yt09H_hrvPE-01324-00276104-00276199 and then as we move to the
yt09H_hrvPE-01325-00276200-00276391 post-compromise piece
yt09H_hrvPE-01326-00276392-00276655 change detection fits in there as well
yt09H_hrvPE-01327-00276656-00276791 you may
yt09H_hrvPE-01328-00276792-00276958 need to do the forensics to understand
yt09H_hrvPE-01329-00276959-00277151 what happened in the environment
yt09H_hrvPE-01330-00277152-00277327 so identifying the changes that occurred
yt09H_hrvPE-01331-00277328-00277558 is it is a powerful forensics tool
yt09H_hrvPE-01332-00277559-00277806 sometimes log data often log data only
yt09H_hrvPE-01333-00277807-00278047 gets you so far um but that detailed
yt09H_hrvPE-01334-00278048-00278334 change data who made the change uh and
yt09H_hrvPE-01335-00278335-00278479 the business context around that change
yt09H_hrvPE-01336-00278480-00278663 is key for forensics and then finally
yt09H_hrvPE-01337-00278664-00278823 log analysis is part of tripwire's
yt09H_hrvPE-01338-00278824-00279134 portfolio as well um and log data uh i
yt09H_hrvPE-01339-00279135-00279351 wish i could remember the exact quote um
yt09H_hrvPE-01340-00279352-00279567 i think it was from uh anton chuvacan as
yt09H_hrvPE-01341-00279568-00279782 a gartner analysis said um something
yt09H_hrvPE-01342-00279783-00280023 like you you can't possibly do incident
yt09H_hrvPE-01343-00280024-00280287 response without logs and it's really a
yt09H_hrvPE-01344-00280288-00280471 basic control to have
yt09H_hrvPE-01345-00280472-00280615 and of course we deliver those
yt09H_hrvPE-01346-00280616-00280847 capabilities uh through a set of
yt09H_hrvPE-01347-00280848-00281055 products so this is our product
yt09H_hrvPE-01348-00281056-00281327 portfolio slide and uh you know we can
yt09H_hrvPE-01349-00281328-00281471 spend a lot of time talking about each
yt09H_hrvPE-01350-00281472-00281703 of them but we won't spend it here
yt09H_hrvPE-01351-00281704-00281839 through the middle you've got the basic
yt09H_hrvPE-01352-00281840-00282103 capabilities that each product provides
yt09H_hrvPE-01353-00282104-00282239 tripwire enterprise is kind of our
yt09H_hrvPE-01354-00282240-00282406 flagship product
yt09H_hrvPE-01355-00282407-00282671 we do have a an extensive
yt09H_hrvPE-01356-00282672-00282895 industrial cyber security arm in
yt09H_hrvPE-01357-00282896-00283055 partnership with our parent company
yt09H_hrvPE-01358-00283056-00283158 belden
yt09H_hrvPE-01359-00283159-00283430 and we're also introducing a series of
yt09H_hrvPE-01360-00283431-00283582 software as a service offerings like
yt09H_hrvPE-01361-00283583-00283743 configuration manager and tripwire for
yt09H_hrvPE-01362-00283744-00283951 devops that are targeted more at
yt09H_hrvPE-01363-00283952-00284215 containers and clouds uh cloud assets
yt09H_hrvPE-01364-00284216-00284479 cloud accounts as well
yt09H_hrvPE-01365-00284480-00284710 and with that i'll flip to the
yt09H_hrvPE-01366-00284711-00284927 uh picture slide if you will and take a
yt09H_hrvPE-01367-00284928-00285110 look at the q a
yt09H_hrvPE-01368-00285111-00285287 and see what we've got in here in terms
yt09H_hrvPE-01369-00285288-00285503 of questions
yt09H_hrvPE-01370-00285504-00285671 all right and you can continue entering
yt09H_hrvPE-01371-00285672-00285895 questions if you'd like
yt09H_hrvPE-01372-00285896-00286230 um so one question here uh will banning
yt09H_hrvPE-01373-00286231-00286479 cryptocurrency or cryptocurrency
yt09H_hrvPE-01374-00286480-00286663 transactions curb ransomware interested
yt09H_hrvPE-01375-00286664-00286830 to hear ed's thoughts uh specifically
yt09H_hrvPE-01376-00286831-00286967 actually from this
yt09H_hrvPE-01377-00286968-00287230 of course of course not i mean that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01378-00287231-00287399 that that's um
yt09H_hrvPE-01379-00287400-00287510 that that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01380-00287511-00287823 not the right way to to even think about
yt09H_hrvPE-01381-00287824-00288015 the problem like i understand we're
yt09H_hrvPE-01382-00288016-00288223 coming from with the question because i
yt09H_hrvPE-01383-00288224-00288415 see all the articles as well
yt09H_hrvPE-01384-00288416-00288615 and have had all the discussions with
yt09H_hrvPE-01385-00288616-00288903 lawmakers in washington and policymakers
yt09H_hrvPE-01386-00288904-00289206 where the this idea that um tracing the
yt09H_hrvPE-01387-00289207-00289303 money
yt09H_hrvPE-01388-00289304-00289519 is going to be the way to do this that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01389-00289520-00289823 um that doesn't strike me as the right
yt09H_hrvPE-01390-00289824-00289951 approach here
yt09H_hrvPE-01391-00289952-00290167 i i like the more foundational approach
yt09H_hrvPE-01392-00290168-00290367 of let's clean up our infrastructure
yt09H_hrvPE-01393-00290368-00290527 let's look for these attacks there's so
yt09H_hrvPE-01394-00290528-00290710 many good reasons
yt09H_hrvPE-01395-00290711-00290967 to do that beyond ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01396-00290968-00291206 that um this idea that i'll i'll take
yt09H_hrvPE-01397-00291207-00291439 some financial view
yt09H_hrvPE-01398-00291440-00291623 to figure out who's doing this seems
yt09H_hrvPE-01399-00291624-00291887 silly there's way too many countries
yt09H_hrvPE-01400-00291888-00292103 and way too many actors that can do this
yt09H_hrvPE-01401-00292104-00292310 with complete and total impunity where
yt09H_hrvPE-01402-00292311-00292463 you can't get them
yt09H_hrvPE-01403-00292464-00292695 that just doesn't seem to need to be a
yt09H_hrvPE-01404-00292696-00292919 valid strategy i'm not against by the
yt09H_hrvPE-01405-00292920-00293023 way
yt09H_hrvPE-01406-00293024-00293239 the fbi secret service and others law
yt09H_hrvPE-01407-00293240-00293558 enforcement doing that i'm for that i'm
yt09H_hrvPE-01408-00293559-00293767 just saying that for all of us
yt09H_hrvPE-01409-00293768-00293975 you know dealing with the day-to-day
yt09H_hrvPE-01410-00293976-00294215 problems of enterprise the the
yt09H_hrvPE-01411-00294216-00294399 equivalent here is tim and i saying
yt09H_hrvPE-01412-00294400-00294510 essentially
yt09H_hrvPE-01413-00294511-00294727 don't smoke cut down on your drinking
yt09H_hrvPE-01414-00294728-00294958 eat better get some exercise you know
yt09H_hrvPE-01415-00294959-00295199 get a little rest i mean those are all
yt09H_hrvPE-01416-00295200-00295399 excellent things to do
yt09H_hrvPE-01417-00295400-00295767 and that's why i think um it makes sense
yt09H_hrvPE-01418-00295768-00296079 to to use ransomware if necessary as an
yt09H_hrvPE-01419-00296080-00296199 excuse
yt09H_hrvPE-01420-00296200-00296423 if you're having trouble getting budget
yt09H_hrvPE-01421-00296424-00296615 to clean up some of these foundational
yt09H_hrvPE-01422-00296616-00296815 issues so that that would be my view on
yt09H_hrvPE-01423-00296816-00296919 that
yt09H_hrvPE-01424-00296920-00297079 i'll ask a follow-on question there
yt09H_hrvPE-01425-00297080-00297215 that's come up in some other
yt09H_hrvPE-01426-00297216-00297382 conversations i've had and get your
yt09H_hrvPE-01427-00297383-00297663 thoughts on it what about um making
yt09H_hrvPE-01428-00297664-00297863 paying the ransom illegal like
yt09H_hrvPE-01429-00297864-00298015 legislating that it's illegal to pay
yt09H_hrvPE-01430-00298016-00298191 ransom do you think that's an approach
yt09H_hrvPE-01431-00298192-00298334 that that is
yt09H_hrvPE-01432-00298335-00298519 effective
yt09H_hrvPE-01433-00298520-00298663 not if you're running a children's
yt09H_hrvPE-01434-00298664-00298806 hospital and you need to turn the
yt09H_hrvPE-01435-00298807-00299134 ventilators on in the next 20 minutes um
yt09H_hrvPE-01436-00299135-00299351 that doesn't sound like a
yt09H_hrvPE-01437-00299352-00299663 sound or even an enforceable strategy
yt09H_hrvPE-01438-00299664-00299791 what are you going to do you're going to
yt09H_hrvPE-01439-00299792-00299975 sue the children's hospital afterwards
yt09H_hrvPE-01440-00299976-00300215 you know go haul them into the paddy
yt09H_hrvPE-01441-00300216-00300391 wagon somewhere that's not going to
yt09H_hrvPE-01442-00300392-00300710 happen um i think it's a bad approach
yt09H_hrvPE-01443-00300711-00300991 i'd much rather you want to legislate
yt09H_hrvPE-01444-00300992-00301199 something legislate that some people
yt09H_hrvPE-01445-00301200-00301327 have to have good cyber security
yt09H_hrvPE-01446-00301328-00301495 programs and i understand that that's
yt09H_hrvPE-01447-00301496-00301727 what nist and others try to do and i've
yt09H_hrvPE-01448-00301728-00301895 been vocal in my
yt09H_hrvPE-01449-00301896-00302110 criticisms of how some of that is being
yt09H_hrvPE-01450-00302111-00302230 done but
yt09H_hrvPE-01451-00302231-00302310 um
yt09H_hrvPE-01452-00302311-00302647 sadly i i i think that it barks up the
yt09H_hrvPE-01453-00302648-00302815 wrong tree
yt09H_hrvPE-01454-00302816-00303071 when we focus too much on the payment
yt09H_hrvPE-01455-00303072-00303430 aspect here and not enough on the basic
yt09H_hrvPE-01456-00303431-00303654 computer network and information
yt09H_hrvPE-01457-00303655-00303806 security
yt09H_hrvPE-01458-00303807-00304127 tools and strategies that's the place to
yt09H_hrvPE-01459-00304128-00304415 do it that's the correct place you do
yt09H_hrvPE-01460-00304416-00304663 that and you got the right approach let
yt09H_hrvPE-01461-00304664-00304854 the you know let law enforcement worry
yt09H_hrvPE-01462-00304855-00305079 about chasing criminals and
yt09H_hrvPE-01463-00305080-00305310 so on with uh cryptocurrency payments
yt09H_hrvPE-01464-00305311-00305606 but um i i don't know tim what you think
yt09H_hrvPE-01465-00305607-00305751 but i you can think of too many
yt09H_hrvPE-01466-00305752-00305910 scenarios where
yt09H_hrvPE-01467-00305911-00306182 that would be a very uncomfortable law
yt09H_hrvPE-01468-00306183-00306391 well it it buys into the myth that that
yt09H_hrvPE-01469-00306392-00306623 ransomware is is inevitable as well that
yt09H_hrvPE-01470-00306624-00306799 that idea that you should wait until the
yt09H_hrvPE-01471-00306800-00307063 ransom where has been successful to do
yt09H_hrvPE-01472-00307064-00307319 something about it um wait until that
yt09H_hrvPE-01473-00307320-00307575 end of the the continuum if you will so
yt09H_hrvPE-01474-00307576-00307775 i tend to agree with you
yt09H_hrvPE-01475-00307776-00307958 i mean generally you'd like to not have
yt09H_hrvPE-01476-00307959-00308191 to pay ransom like when you're involved
yt09H_hrvPE-01477-00308192-00308343 in one of these things and i've sat on
yt09H_hrvPE-01478-00308344-00308567 boards where it's been an issue and it's
yt09H_hrvPE-01479-00308568-00308751 come up and you start with the
yt09H_hrvPE-01480-00308752-00308958 presumption that well let's try and deal
yt09H_hrvPE-01481-00308959-00309071 with this
yt09H_hrvPE-01482-00309072-00309247 uh sometimes you can't and then what are
yt09H_hrvPE-01483-00309248-00309495 you supposed to do you know and
yt09H_hrvPE-01484-00309496-00309719 experience dictates that because the
yt09H_hrvPE-01485-00309720-00309991 ransoms are usually very reasonable
yt09H_hrvPE-01486-00309992-00310358 and and much of the empirical evidence
yt09H_hrvPE-01487-00310359-00310719 is that it's often not a repeat systemic
yt09H_hrvPE-01488-00310720-00310903 issue where you pay and then boom you're
yt09H_hrvPE-01489-00310904-00311158 hit again that the temptation is just
yt09H_hrvPE-01490-00311159-00311358 too great for a lot of organizations to
yt09H_hrvPE-01491-00311359-00311606 do it now i would always say if you feel
yt09H_hrvPE-01492-00311607-00311815 like you need to do it your children's
yt09H_hrvPE-01493-00311816-00311958 hospital you need to turn on the
yt09H_hrvPE-01494-00311959-00312206 ventilators well if you're going to do
yt09H_hrvPE-01495-00312207-00312615 it use that as day zero meaning okay
yt09H_hrvPE-01496-00312616-00312927 this will never happen again
yt09H_hrvPE-01497-00312928-00313127 and that now we are going to get
yt09H_hrvPE-01498-00313128-00313367 ourselves to an advanced level of
yt09H_hrvPE-01499-00313368-00313503 prevention
yt09H_hrvPE-01500-00313504-00313871 and the early detection and lateral
yt09H_hrvPE-01501-00313872-00314054 movement security all the things we
yt09H_hrvPE-01502-00314055-00314199 talked about should be talking to
yt09H_hrvPE-01503-00314200-00314303 tripwire
yt09H_hrvPE-01504-00314304-00314615 um then i then at least something bad
yt09H_hrvPE-01505-00314616-00314823 turns into something good
yt09H_hrvPE-01506-00314824-00315047 you know if you if you feel so inclined
yt09H_hrvPE-01507-00315048-00315303 the best of all if you don't have to pay
yt09H_hrvPE-01508-00315304-00315479 and you've already taken the steps and
yt09H_hrvPE-01509-00315480-00315710 you can recover but i think you have to
yt09H_hrvPE-01510-00315711-00315958 leave that option open
yt09H_hrvPE-01511-00315959-00316223 in cases where the risk assessment would
yt09H_hrvPE-01512-00316224-00316382 just dictate that you're better off
yt09H_hrvPE-01513-00316383-00316510 doing it and i know there's a lot of
yt09H_hrvPE-01514-00316511-00316687 people here would say
yt09H_hrvPE-01515-00316688-00316934 pay under no circumstances
yt09H_hrvPE-01516-00316935-00317103 you know i i
yt09H_hrvPE-01517-00317104-00317254 maybe
yt09H_hrvPE-01518-00317255-00317454 but i think that there are circumstances
yt09H_hrvPE-01519-00317455-00317575 where um
yt09H_hrvPE-01520-00317576-00317758 there really no other option
yt09H_hrvPE-01521-00317759-00317854 well if you're going to take that
yt09H_hrvPE-01522-00317855-00318095 approach of pay under no circumstances i
yt09H_hrvPE-01523-00318096-00318287 think you you you better have a response
yt09H_hrvPE-01524-00318288-00318519 plan that deals with that like that that
yt09H_hrvPE-01525-00318520-00318695 requires a response plan to say here's
yt09H_hrvPE-01526-00318696-00318806 what we do
yt09H_hrvPE-01527-00318807-00319023 for every possible scenario that doesn't
yt09H_hrvPE-01528-00319024-00319134 involve payment because we're never
yt09H_hrvPE-01529-00319135-00319239 going to pay
yt09H_hrvPE-01530-00319240-00319415 that's right that's right this is not
yt09H_hrvPE-01531-00319416-00319599 like you're dealing with you know
yt09H_hrvPE-01532-00319600-00319775 terrorists and airplanes and things this
yt09H_hrvPE-01533-00319776-00319919 is different you know this is a
yt09H_hrvPE-01534-00319920-00320087 different kind of thing
yt09H_hrvPE-01535-00320088-00320454 and there are ways to avoid it so yeah
yt09H_hrvPE-01536-00320455-00320710 okay so another question here uh
yt09H_hrvPE-01537-00320711-00320982 do you have a recommendation for a a
yt09H_hrvPE-01538-00320983-00321215 means or a product to render your
yt09H_hrvPE-01539-00321216-00321399 backups immutable
yt09H_hrvPE-01540-00321400-00321679 um not a not an area of expertise for me
yt09H_hrvPE-01541-00321680-00321815 but maybe you have something to say
yt09H_hrvPE-01542-00321816-00322030 about it well i'm not gonna say product
yt09H_hrvPE-01543-00322031-00322263 i that that seems um inappropriate to
yt09H_hrvPE-01544-00322264-00322479 get on talk about specific problems but
yt09H_hrvPE-01545-00322480-00322703 here's what i would recommend
yt09H_hrvPE-01546-00322704-00322895 when you are talking to your
yt09H_hrvPE-01547-00322896-00323087 infrastructure providers because a lot
yt09H_hrvPE-01548-00323088-00323327 of this might be cloud storage providers
yt09H_hrvPE-01549-00323328-00323558 it may be cyber security vendors that
yt09H_hrvPE-01550-00323559-00323823 have a tool that purports to do backup
yt09H_hrvPE-01551-00323824-00323967 when you do
yt09H_hrvPE-01552-00323968-00324175 you can and should engage in the
yt09H_hrvPE-01553-00324176-00324391 discussion with their team around how
yt09H_hrvPE-01554-00324392-00324487 they
yt09H_hrvPE-01555-00324488-00324695 will take you through the scenarios and
yt09H_hrvPE-01556-00324696-00324910 show how the controls are in place to
yt09H_hrvPE-01557-00324911-00325175 prevent ransomware attacks from
yt09H_hrvPE-01558-00325176-00325454 invading infecting or degrading the
yt09H_hrvPE-01559-00325455-00325647 whole purpose of the backup you should
yt09H_hrvPE-01560-00325648-00325815 go through that there are vendors that
yt09H_hrvPE-01561-00325816-00325967 will take you through that you all know
yt09H_hrvPE-01562-00325968-00326247 how to do that i'm again i'm an analyst
yt09H_hrvPE-01563-00326248-00326447 and we do help companies you come to tag
yt09H_hrvPE-01564-00326448-00326703 cyber.com happy to help you with that
yt09H_hrvPE-01565-00326704-00327015 engagement but the discussion with the
yt09H_hrvPE-01566-00327016-00327263 vendor needs to be something that you
yt09H_hrvPE-01567-00327264-00327495 can resonate with where they show you
yt09H_hrvPE-01568-00327496-00327719 listen for the controls
yt09H_hrvPE-01569-00327720-00328063 test the scenarios try and understand
yt09H_hrvPE-01570-00328064-00328351 from a technical perspective how they've
yt09H_hrvPE-01571-00328352-00328567 built functionality that creates that
yt09H_hrvPE-01572-00328568-00328791 separation because those are the words
yt09H_hrvPE-01573-00328792-00328999 you want to hear control and separation
yt09H_hrvPE-01574-00329000-00329199 isolation that's the essence of this
yt09H_hrvPE-01575-00329200-00329382 it's like i got a bowl of water over
yt09H_hrvPE-01576-00329383-00329623 here and a bowl of water over there and
yt09H_hrvPE-01577-00329624-00329815 one little drop of ink that gets into
yt09H_hrvPE-01578-00329816-00330023 either one is you're not going to have
yt09H_hrvPE-01579-00330024-00330263 clear water anymore it's how do i keep
yt09H_hrvPE-01580-00330264-00330439 my water clear
yt09H_hrvPE-01581-00330440-00330630 of this infected ink that's bouncing
yt09H_hrvPE-01582-00330631-00330910 around so the isolation controls have to
yt09H_hrvPE-01583-00330911-00331271 be really strict and carefully enforced
yt09H_hrvPE-01584-00331272-00331487 it's not easy but there are vendors who
yt09H_hrvPE-01585-00331488-00331727 do it so one check it's not a big deal
yt09H_hrvPE-01586-00331728-00331919 to go out and get a short list of
yt09H_hrvPE-01587-00331920-00332119 companies that you're probably already
yt09H_hrvPE-01588-00332120-00332327 dealing with we're more than happy to
yt09H_hrvPE-01589-00332328-00332423 explain
yt09H_hrvPE-01590-00332424-00332558 it's an interesting topic the way you
yt09H_hrvPE-01591-00332559-00332791 describe it there because i i so i spend
yt09H_hrvPE-01592-00332792-00332967 you know some of my time on the the
yt09H_hrvPE-01593-00332968-00333167 enterprise i.t security side and some of
yt09H_hrvPE-01594-00333168-00333358 my time on the industrial cyber security
yt09H_hrvPE-01595-00333359-00333439 side
yt09H_hrvPE-01596-00333440-00333599 and uh
yt09H_hrvPE-01597-00333600-00333806 there are certainly vendors and tools on
yt09H_hrvPE-01598-00333807-00334095 the industrial side that have invested a
yt09H_hrvPE-01599-00334096-00334343 lot more and spent a lot more time
yt09H_hrvPE-01600-00334344-00334682 working on this this kind of uh you know
yt09H_hrvPE-01601-00334683-00335015 um separation true separation true
yt09H_hrvPE-01602-00335016-00335287 one-way communication there's a tool uh
yt09H_hrvPE-01603-00335288-00335663 you know called the data diode um
yt09H_hrvPE-01604-00335664-00335895 yeah unidirectional it would be the more
yt09H_hrvPE-01605-00335896-00336071 common term yeah absolutely yeah and you
yt09H_hrvPE-01606-00336072-00336158 don't you don't see that on the
yt09H_hrvPE-01607-00336159-00336358 enterprise i.t side as much but it might
yt09H_hrvPE-01608-00336359-00336495 be that there's some there's some
yt09H_hrvPE-01609-00336496-00336710 lessons to be learned there for how
yt09H_hrvPE-01610-00336711-00336958 uh organizations segment environments
yt09H_hrvPE-01611-00336959-00337327 like nuclear power plants um
yt09H_hrvPE-01612-00337328-00337558 companies buy into directionals you're
yt09H_hrvPE-01613-00337559-00337791 right that's an excellent point that
yt09H_hrvPE-01614-00337792-00338039 that's uh that would not be the type of
yt09H_hrvPE-01615-00338040-00338223 firm typically that would come to mind
yt09H_hrvPE-01616-00338224-00338415 when you're thinking about ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01617-00338416-00338606 but the way unidirectional gateways work
yt09H_hrvPE-01618-00338607-00338863 is literally a laser
yt09H_hrvPE-01619-00338864-00339182 embedded in in some hunk of gear and you
yt09H_hrvPE-01620-00339183-00339439 can argue that you know the the tx and
yt09H_hrvPE-01621-00339440-00339567 rx
yt09H_hrvPE-01622-00339568-00339727 is only going to go one direction and
yt09H_hrvPE-01623-00339728-00340006 you fake the servers on either side and
yt09H_hrvPE-01624-00340007-00340158 you just keep them updated through the
yt09H_hrvPE-01625-00340159-00340351 unidirectional it's things like that
yt09H_hrvPE-01626-00340352-00340591 that's an example of a control
yt09H_hrvPE-01627-00340592-00340847 so you know finding someone who can help
yt09H_hrvPE-01628-00340848-00341078 you with unidirectional may be part of
yt09H_hrvPE-01629-00341079-00341223 it
yt09H_hrvPE-01630-00341224-00341391 you really do need to engage in
yt09H_hrvPE-01631-00341392-00341615 discussions with your backup and storage
yt09H_hrvPE-01632-00341616-00341847 vendors and listen for the controls
yt09H_hrvPE-01633-00341848-00342039 because many of them they they're no
yt09H_hrvPE-01634-00342040-00342319 dummies right tim they they know that
yt09H_hrvPE-01635-00342320-00342582 we're holding webinars on ransomware and
yt09H_hrvPE-01636-00342583-00342799 mentioning backups so when you're a
yt09H_hrvPE-01637-00342800-00343023 product manager in that area you're all
yt09H_hrvPE-01638-00343024-00343295 over this this is job one to convince
yt09H_hrvPE-01639-00343296-00343415 companies
yt09H_hrvPE-01640-00343416-00343630 that you can be helpful with ransomware
yt09H_hrvPE-01641-00343631-00343887 so you have no problem coming up with 10
yt09H_hrvPE-01642-00343888-00343967 10
yt09H_hrvPE-01643-00343968-00344127 product teams that'll show up in your
yt09H_hrvPE-01644-00344128-00344375 conference room and lay out their
yt09H_hrvPE-01645-00344376-00344663 approach but it's up to you the buyer
yt09H_hrvPE-01646-00344664-00344919 again with help from analysts and others
yt09H_hrvPE-01647-00344920-00345071 to try and figure out which ones make
yt09H_hrvPE-01648-00345072-00345254 sense and which ones are just maybe a
yt09H_hrvPE-01649-00345255-00345582 little bit of powerpoint magic
yt09H_hrvPE-01650-00345583-00345751 that's where the industry is right now
yt09H_hrvPE-01651-00345752-00345943 that transition from
yt09H_hrvPE-01652-00345944-00346143 idea to reality
yt09H_hrvPE-01653-00346144-00346271 so we've we've gotten to the point where
yt09H_hrvPE-01654-00346272-00346423 i think i have to pick and choose from
yt09H_hrvPE-01655-00346424-00346558 the questions that are up here and i've
yt09H_hrvPE-01656-00346559-00346727 got one that i think is a good one for
yt09H_hrvPE-01657-00346728-00346878 us to close out on it and it's
yt09H_hrvPE-01658-00346879-00346982 interesting
yt09H_hrvPE-01659-00346983-00347071 um
yt09H_hrvPE-01660-00347072-00347319 in the in the i.t security space there
yt09H_hrvPE-01661-00347320-00347630 is this uh i'll call it a problem that
yt09H_hrvPE-01662-00347631-00347830 the the best way to get an organization
yt09H_hrvPE-01663-00347831-00347967 to invest
yt09H_hrvPE-01664-00347968-00348151 in cyber security is for them to
yt09H_hrvPE-01665-00348152-00348310 experience a breach to experience an
yt09H_hrvPE-01666-00348311-00348406 incident
yt09H_hrvPE-01667-00348407-00348615 and do you have any advice
yt09H_hrvPE-01668-00348616-00349039 on how to get the business executives to
yt09H_hrvPE-01669-00349040-00349310 invest in cyber security before that
yt09H_hrvPE-01670-00349311-00349567 breach occurs
yt09H_hrvPE-01671-00349568-00349791 no
yt09H_hrvPE-01672-00349792-00350015 never mind it was a terrible question
yt09H_hrvPE-01673-00350016-00350327 i have been trying my whole career to do
yt09H_hrvPE-01674-00350328-00350558 that it's a great question look you
yt09H_hrvPE-01675-00350559-00350727 don't take your sneakers off before you
yt09H_hrvPE-01676-00350728-00350951 get on a train right you do before you
yt09H_hrvPE-01677-00350952-00351167 get on an airplane why why don't you
yt09H_hrvPE-01678-00351168-00351415 before you get on a train because 911
yt09H_hrvPE-01679-00351416-00351687 involved airplanes not trains if 911 was
yt09H_hrvPE-01680-00351688-00351943 a bunch of trains then you wouldn't be
yt09H_hrvPE-01681-00351944-00352230 able to do that i mean i think the most
yt09H_hrvPE-01682-00352231-00352430 conductors of most stations would help
yt09H_hrvPE-01683-00352431-00352734 you carry a bomb onto a typical train
yt09H_hrvPE-01684-00352735-00352967 so i'm just saying unfortunately maybe
yt09H_hrvPE-01685-00352968-00353167 it's in something related to human
yt09H_hrvPE-01686-00353168-00353454 beings but we tend to get religion when
yt09H_hrvPE-01687-00353455-00353591 there's a problem
yt09H_hrvPE-01688-00353592-00353799 show me a vegan and i'll show you
yt09H_hrvPE-01689-00353800-00353975 somebody who's probably had a heart
yt09H_hrvPE-01690-00353976-00354263 scare at some point in his or her career
yt09H_hrvPE-01691-00354264-00354351 so
yt09H_hrvPE-01692-00354352-00354582 generally that is a problem we've lived
yt09H_hrvPE-01693-00354583-00354871 with for 30 or 40 years it is a good
yt09H_hrvPE-01694-00354872-00355087 topic to close on because i would go out
yt09H_hrvPE-01695-00355088-00355327 and charge everyone listening
yt09H_hrvPE-01696-00355328-00355567 that is the central issue here we
yt09H_hrvPE-01697-00355568-00355710 shouldn't be waiting that was when we
yt09H_hrvPE-01698-00355711-00356047 went basic intermediate to mature tim we
yt09H_hrvPE-01699-00356048-00356399 said basic is you sit back and wait
yt09H_hrvPE-01700-00356400-00356527 mature is
yt09H_hrvPE-01701-00356528-00356687 you're a vegan not because you had a
yt09H_hrvPE-01702-00356688-00356839 hard scare but because you know it's
yt09H_hrvPE-01703-00356840-00357054 healthy i mean that's the challenge we
yt09H_hrvPE-01704-00357055-00357334 all have here so that that maybe helps
yt09H_hrvPE-01705-00357335-00357534 to define what we all do for for a
yt09H_hrvPE-01706-00357535-00357719 living every day
yt09H_hrvPE-01707-00357720-00357951 move more people in that direction and
yt09H_hrvPE-01708-00357952-00358127 just like vegans uh folks in i.t
yt09H_hrvPE-01709-00358128-00358303 security can't help talking about it all
yt09H_hrvPE-01710-00358304-00358695 the time that's what we do
yt09H_hrvPE-01711-00358696-00358791 all right
yt09H_hrvPE-01712-00358792-00358991 bad part of vegans right the good part
yt09H_hrvPE-01713-00358992-00359158 is healthy
yt09H_hrvPE-01714-00359159-00359358 i want to thank you ed amoroso for
yt09H_hrvPE-01715-00359359-00359478 spending time with us i think it was a
yt09H_hrvPE-01716-00359479-00359719 great conversation very interesting and
yt09H_hrvPE-01717-00359720-00359839 i appreciate your time and i hope
yt09H_hrvPE-01718-00359840-00360134 everybody uh uh found it uh useful and
yt09H_hrvPE-01719-00360135-00360254 educational
yt09H_hrvPE-01720-00360255-00360487 uh and this will be recorded i'll hand
yt09H_hrvPE-01721-00360488-00360678 it over to liz to close us out just
yt09H_hrvPE-01722-00360679-00361047 briefly as well
yt09H_hrvPE-01723-00361048-00361263 yeah thanks tim thank you ed and tim
yt09H_hrvPE-01724-00361264-00361447 again for a great event and thank you to
yt09H_hrvPE-01725-00361448-00361663 our audience for attending again like
yt09H_hrvPE-01726-00361664-00361830 tim said we hope you found this session
yt09H_hrvPE-01727-00361831-00362006 informative and useful to you i know we
yt09H_hrvPE-01728-00362007-00362182 had a few people that joined late or had
yt09H_hrvPE-01729-00362183-00362327 to leave early
yt09H_hrvPE-01730-00362328-00362430 so we'll make sure that everyone
yt09H_hrvPE-01731-00362431-00362630 receives a link to the recording later
yt09H_hrvPE-01732-00362631-00362719 today
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yt09H_hrvPE-01734-00362888-00363039 attendance please make sure to respond
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yx54x9RRzCU-00004-00001080-00001327 governor abbott says 58 hypocrite texas
yx54x9RRzCU-00005-00001328-00001527 democrat runaways will be arrested when
yx54x9RRzCU-00006-00001528-00001639 they return to austin
yx54x9RRzCU-00007-00001639-00001847 after jetting to dc on one hundred
yx54x9RRzCU-00008-00001848-00002039 thousand dollars chartered private jets
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yx54x9RRzCU-00022-00004200-00004399 the article further states texas
yx54x9RRzCU-00023-00004400-00004599 democrats fled their state on private
yx54x9RRzCU-00024-00004600-00004831 jets in order to prevent a series of new
yx54x9RRzCU-00025-00004832-00005022 restrictive voting bills from becoming
yx54x9RRzCU-00026-00005023-00005286 law at least 58 democratic members of
yx54x9RRzCU-00027-00005287-00005470 the state house of representatives left
yx54x9RRzCU-00028-00005471-00005670 austin to fly to washington d.c
yx54x9RRzCU-00029-00005671-00005854 on two private jets that cost one
yx54x9RRzCU-00030-00005855-00006038 hundred thousand dollars to charter
yx54x9RRzCU-00031-00006039-00006222 their departure means the texas house
yx54x9RRzCU-00032-00006223-00006391 doesn't have quorum of two thirds of
yx54x9RRzCU-00033-00006392-00006503 lawmakers present
yx54x9RRzCU-00034-00006504-00006695 and can't hold votes governor greg
yx54x9RRzCU-00035-00006695-00006863 abbott governor um
yx54x9RRzCU-00036-00006864-00007078 democrats in your state literally ran
yx54x9RRzCU-00037-00007079-00007175 away from
yx54x9RRzCU-00038-00007176-00007519 the democracy that they swore to uphold
yx54x9RRzCU-00039-00007520-00007727 and protect your reaction to what
yx54x9RRzCU-00040-00007728-00007887 happened today
yx54x9RRzCU-00041-00007888-00008087 isn't that the most untexan thing you've
yx54x9RRzCU-00042-00008088-00008303 ever heard texans running from a fight
yx54x9RRzCU-00043-00008304-00008487 they're they're quitters it's like
yx54x9RRzCU-00044-00008488-00008639 during a football game or a baseball
yx54x9RRzCU-00045-00008640-00008687 game
yx54x9RRzCU-00046-00008688-00008807 taking their equipment when they're way
yx54x9RRzCU-00047-00008808-00009006 behind and just leaving the field that
yx54x9RRzCU-00048-00009007-00009151 is not the way that texas
yx54x9RRzCU-00049-00009152-00009319 texans do things and you captured it
yx54x9RRzCU-00050-00009320-00009463 perfectly and that is uh
yx54x9RRzCU-00051-00009464-00009614 they're leaving and abandoning their
yx54x9RRzCU-00052-00009615-00009774 right to vote and
yx54x9RRzCU-00053-00009775-00010031 i tell you what is crazy but laura this
yx54x9RRzCU-00054-00010032-00010119 is not over
yx54x9RRzCU-00055-00010120-00010319 uh because uh you as was pointed out in
yx54x9RRzCU-00056-00010320-00010527 that uh prelude uh we have special
yx54x9RRzCU-00057-00010528-00010663 sessions that last 30 days
yx54x9RRzCU-00058-00010664-00010799 and the governor calls them and i will
yx54x9RRzCU-00059-00010800-00010991 continue calling special session after
yx54x9RRzCU-00060-00010992-00011142 special session because overtime is
yx54x9RRzCU-00061-00011143-00011238 going to continue
yx54x9RRzCU-00062-00011239-00011391 until they step up to vote but laura
yx54x9RRzCU-00063-00011392-00011551 have to point this out the thesis that
yx54x9RRzCU-00064-00011552-00011687 they are operating under is completely
yx54x9RRzCU-00065-00011688-00011759 false because
yx54x9RRzCU-00066-00011760-00011951 what the texas law does doesn't hinder
yx54x9RRzCU-00067-00011952-00012070 anybody's ability to vote
yx54x9RRzCU-00068-00012071-00012295 in fact interestingly what texas is
yx54x9RRzCU-00069-00012296-00012438 seeking to do is to add
yx54x9RRzCU-00070-00012439-00012695 additional hours to vote texas has 12
yx54x9RRzCU-00071-00012696-00012815 days of early voting and the hours of
yx54x9RRzCU-00072-00012816-00012927 which will be expanded
yx54x9RRzCU-00073-00012928-00013055 and we will ensure that hours are
yx54x9RRzCU-00074-00013056-00013207 expanded on election day also so their
yx54x9RRzCU-00075-00013208-00013327 entire thesis is
yx54x9RRzCU-00076-00013328-00013486 completely wrong and compare early
yx54x9RRzCU-00077-00013487-00013655 voting in texas with early voting that
yx54x9RRzCU-00078-00013656-00013791 we have in delaware
yx54x9RRzCU-00079-00013791-00013975 texas has 12 days of early voting
yx54x9RRzCU-00080-00013976-00014207 delaware has zero days of early voting
yx54x9RRzCU-00081-00014208-00014327 why am i picking on delaware because
yx54x9RRzCU-00082-00014328-00014511 that is where the president himself
yx54x9RRzCU-00083-00014512-00014671 voted in the last election
yx54x9RRzCU-00084-00014672-00014838 and if anybody wants to talk about voter
yx54x9RRzCU-00085-00014840-00014951 suppression they should be talking about
yx54x9RRzCU-00086-00014952-00015038 delaware
yx54x9RRzCU-00087-00015040-00015303 not texas well one texas state
yx54x9RRzCU-00088-00015304-00015415 congresswoman
yx54x9RRzCU-00089-00015416-00015622 is going to demand um something abide in
yx54x9RRzCU-00090-00015623-00015743 the democrats do it that what they
yx54x9RRzCU-00091-00015744-00015807 should do
yx54x9RRzCU-00092-00015808-00016007 when she actually gets face to face with
yx54x9RRzCU-00093-00016008-00016255 them here in dc watch
yx54x9RRzCU-00094-00016256-00016430 for me it's going to be more so i've
yx54x9RRzCU-00095-00016431-00016615 been asked for him to push
yx54x9RRzCU-00096-00016616-00016807 as hard as he can this filibuster has to
yx54x9RRzCU-00097-00016808-00016919 we have to do away with it
yx54x9RRzCU-00098-00016920-00017119 because once again it's republicans
yx54x9RRzCU-00099-00017120-00017422 being allowed to be obstructionist
yx54x9RRzCU-00100-00017423-00017750 governor they fled texas
yx54x9RRzCU-00101-00017751-00017958 to mommy and daddy in dc and the
yx54x9RRzCU-00102-00017959-00018119 republicans are obstructionists
yx54x9RRzCU-00103-00018120-00018283 please explain that for our viewers
yx54x9RRzCU-00104-00018284-00018486 tonight one word
yx54x9RRzCU-00105-00018487-00018775 hypocrisy they're using a filibuster to
yx54x9RRzCU-00106-00018776-00018886 flee the state of texas
yx54x9RRzCU-00107-00018887-00019079 to plead with the president to do away
yx54x9RRzCU-00108-00019080-00019279 with the filibuster in washington dc
yx54x9RRzCU-00109-00019280-00019543 that is the example of hypocrisy on its
yx54x9RRzCU-00110-00019544-00019655 face and that's one reason why they're
yx54x9RRzCU-00111-00019656-00019814 losing the arguments with regard to
yx54x9RRzCU-00112-00019815-00019991 voting on this issue and other issues in
yx54x9RRzCU-00113-00019992-00020143 the state of texas but i want to point
yx54x9RRzCU-00114-00020144-00020239 this out for your viewers who are
yx54x9RRzCU-00115-00020240-00020367 watching from texas because
yx54x9RRzCU-00116-00020368-00020567 by the democrats fleeing they're also
yx54x9RRzCU-00117-00020568-00020735 fleeing what we're trying to achieve by
yx54x9RRzCU-00118-00020736-00020927 cutting your property taxes by making
yx54x9RRzCU-00119-00020928-00021063 sure that we secure the border
yx54x9RRzCU-00120-00021064-00021255 by funding very important projects such
yx54x9RRzCU-00121-00021256-00021439 as law enforcement and communities that
yx54x9RRzCU-00122-00021440-00021471 have
yx54x9RRzCU-00123-00021472-00021622 high crime and so by fleeing the state
yx54x9RRzCU-00124-00021623-00021750 of texas they're doing more than just
yx54x9RRzCU-00125-00021751-00021855 appealing to the president
yx54x9RRzCU-00126-00021856-00022063 they're using taxpayer money on this
yx54x9RRzCU-00127-00022064-00022167 political junket
yx54x9RRzCU-00128-00022168-00022478 to washington d.c to prevent
yx54x9RRzCU-00129-00022479-00022671 us from passing laws that will make our
yx54x9RRzCU-00130-00022672-00022822 communities i have a question governor
yx54x9RRzCU-00131-00022823-00022983 do you know or does anyone know who paid
yx54x9RRzCU-00132-00022984-00023127 for the private plane and the
yx54x9RRzCU-00133-00023128-00023294 luxury bus was it all on the up and up
yx54x9RRzCU-00134-00023295-00023455 was it beethoven wrote the check i mean
yx54x9RRzCU-00135-00023456-00023711 it's not cheap right
yx54x9RRzCU-00136-00023712-00023950 this is not cheap for the travel uh so
yx54x9RRzCU-00137-00023951-00024022 get this so
yx54x9RRzCU-00138-00024023-00024119 they're getting paid they're gonna get
yx54x9RRzCU-00139-00024120-00024207 food all that kind of stuff while
yx54x9RRzCU-00140-00024208-00024335 they're there but they're still getting
yx54x9RRzCU-00141-00024336-00024550 taxpayer-based money and their staffs
yx54x9RRzCU-00142-00024551-00024735 are still getting taxpayer-based money
yx54x9RRzCU-00143-00024736-00024919 uh and so they're still living off of
yx54x9RRzCU-00144-00024920-00025047 the government dime
yx54x9RRzCU-00145-00025048-00025167 even while they're on this trip all the
yx54x9RRzCU-00146-00025168-00025367 while they're doing fundraising projects
yx54x9RRzCU-00147-00025368-00025511 online trying to raise money for this
yx54x9RRzCU-00148-00025512-00025558 and so
yx54x9RRzCU-00149-00025559-00025758 it really is both hypocritical it's
yx54x9RRzCU-00150-00025760-00025870 despicable but it's
yx54x9RRzCU-00151-00025872-00025990 really the the worst thing you can say
yx54x9RRzCU-00152-00025991-00026199 about a texas a m they're so afraid
yx54x9RRzCU-00153-00026200-00026327 they're running away from a fight that
yx54x9RRzCU-00154-00026327-00026511 they were hired by their voters to do
yx54x9RRzCU-00155-00026512-00026631 they were hired by the voters to go to
yx54x9RRzCU-00156-00026632-00026751 the capitol and articulate what their
yx54x9RRzCU-00157-00026752-00026846 opinion was
yx54x9RRzCU-00158-00026847-00027031 now one of um well they had this luxury
yx54x9RRzCU-00159-00027032-00027183 bus that you see as well
yx54x9RRzCU-00160-00027183-00027327 so one of the they have the boys on the
yx54x9RRzCU-00161-00027327-00027446 bus remember that book this is the
yx54x9RRzCU-00162-00027447-00027543 buffoons on the bus
yx54x9RRzCU-00163-00027544-00027702 had something to say about you tonight
yx54x9RRzCU-00164-00027704-00027887 governor
yx54x9RRzCU-00165-00027888-00028023 we're dealing with a really abstinent
yx54x9RRzCU-00166-00028024-00028214 governor who wants to i guess run his
yx54x9RRzCU-00167-00028216-00028358 primary campaign on the backs
yx54x9RRzCU-00168-00028360-00028551 of taxpayers at our expense we're not
yx54x9RRzCU-00169-00028552-00028646 going to put up for that our
yx54x9RRzCU-00170-00028647-00028751 hard-working men and women on the
yx54x9RRzCU-00171-00028752-00028799 committee
yx54x9RRzCU-00172-00028800-00028958 were effectively shut out of the process
yx54x9RRzCU-00173-00028960-00029190 to even bring ideas to have some kind of
yx54x9RRzCU-00174-00029191-00029367 normal discussion on voter suppression
yx54x9RRzCU-00175-00029368-00029502 they're trying to take away our right to
yx54x9RRzCU-00176-00029504-00029623 vote and we are not going to put up with
yx54x9RRzCU-00177-00029624-00029646 it
yx54x9RRzCU-00178-00029647-00029855 and we're going to fight uh governor
yx54x9RRzCU-00179-00029856-00029983 your response it's all about
yx54x9RRzCU-00180-00029983-00030143 you know your own political cause so
yx54x9RRzCU-00181-00030144-00030287 we're taking away their ability to
yx54x9RRzCU-00182-00030288-00030390 inject their ideas
yx54x9RRzCU-00183-00030391-00030574 because they have fled the state and
yx54x9RRzCU-00184-00030575-00030718 gone to washington and some may be to
yx54x9RRzCU-00185-00030719-00030807 other locations
yx54x9RRzCU-00186-00030808-00030951 you cannot inject your ideas if you
yx54x9RRzCU-00187-00030952-00031183 don't show up and do your job
yx54x9RRzCU-00188-00031183-00031311 there's no there's no we were
yx54x9RRzCU-00189-00031312-00031423 complaining about democrats running to
yx54x9RRzCU-00190-00031424-00031614 the courts but is there any texas state
yx54x9RRzCU-00191-00031616-00031862 supreme court move here or is that just
yx54x9RRzCU-00192-00031863-00031983 a political question it wouldn't be
yx54x9RRzCU-00193-00031983-00032158 considered
yx54x9RRzCU-00194-00032160-00032311 well there's no law on the issue what
yx54x9RRzCU-00195-00032312-00032502 the law is is in the constitution
yx54x9RRzCU-00196-00032503-00032727 and that is the house the state house of
yx54x9RRzCU-00197-00032727-00032807 representatives
yx54x9RRzCU-00198-00032808-00032967 who are here in the capitol in austin
yx54x9RRzCU-00199-00032968-00033135 right now they do have the ability to
yx54x9RRzCU-00200-00033136-00033246 issue a call to have
yx54x9RRzCU-00201-00033247-00033390 their fellow members who are not showing
yx54x9RRzCU-00202-00033391-00033599 up to be arrested but only so long as
yx54x9RRzCU-00203-00033600-00033727 that arrest is made in the state of
yx54x9RRzCU-00204-00033728-00033871 texas that's why they have fled the
yx54x9RRzCU-00205-00033872-00034015 state once they step back into the state
yx54x9RRzCU-00206-00034016-00034159 of texas they will be arrested
yx54x9RRzCU-00207-00034160-00034311 and brought to the texas capitol and we
yx54x9RRzCU-00208-00034312-00034511 will be conducting business jin saki
yx54x9RRzCU-00209-00034512-00034695 said some white house officials may meet
yx54x9RRzCU-00210-00034696-00034887 the texas democrats in d.c
yx54x9RRzCU-00211-00034888-00035071 and called new voting laws the worst
yx54x9RRzCU-00212-00035072-00035207 challenge to our democracy
yx54x9RRzCU-00213-00035208-00035446 since the civil war kamala harris said
yx54x9RRzCU-00214-00035447-00035623 in detroit on monday that fighting for
yx54x9RRzCU-00215-00035624-00035790 the right to vote is as american as
yx54x9RRzCU-00216-00035791-00035887 apple pie
yx54x9RRzCU-00217-00035888-00036135 in my opinion every american citizen
yx54x9RRzCU-00218-00036136-00036271 should have the right to vote
yx54x9RRzCU-00219-00036272-00036446 each citizen should also have some type
yx54x9RRzCU-00220-00036447-00036623 of way of proven they have that right to
yx54x9RRzCU-00221-00036624-00036671 vote
yx54x9RRzCU-00222-00036672-00036895 it can be a state issued id or something
yx54x9RRzCU-00223-00036896-00037062 else that the state recognizes
yx54x9RRzCU-00224-00037063-00037271 i do not want non-citizens voting in
yx54x9RRzCU-00225-00037272-00037446 elections that affect my family
yx54x9RRzCU-00226-00037447-00037615 friends and me i thought it was
yx54x9RRzCU-00227-00037616-00037839 reasonable that texas is adding extended
yx54x9RRzCU-00228-00037840-00037974 hours for early voting
yx54x9RRzCU-00229-00037975-00038159 i was surprised to hear that delaware
yx54x9RRzCU-00230-00038160-00038335 has zero days for early voting
yx54x9RRzCU-00231-00038336-00038535 the place the current president voted it
yx54x9RRzCU-00232-00038536-00038735 didn't surprise me to hear jen saki
yx54x9RRzCU-00233-00038736-00038823 grandstanding
yx54x9RRzCU-00234-00038824-00039030 or kamala with her what did she just say
yx54x9RRzCU-00235-00039031-00039159 comment lastly
yx54x9RRzCU-00236-00039160-00039311 why are they taking a trip when they
yx54x9RRzCU-00237-00039312-00039495 should be in texas working and who is
yx54x9RRzCU-00238-00039496-00039599 paying for their trip
yx54x9RRzCU-00239-00039600-00039807 those are my thoughts what are yours
yx54x9RRzCU-00240-00039808-00039974 leave them in the comments below
yx54x9RRzCU-00241-00039975-00040174 please share this video for education
yx54x9RRzCU-00242-00040175-00040359 and awareness for the dum dum news
yx54x9RRzCU-00243-00040360-00040847 channel i'm dum dum
yzUUfajuHKy-00000-00000000-00000196 what I'm about to show you is going to
yzUUfajuHKy-00001-00000197-00000449 blow your mind but wait and watch till
yzUUfajuHKy-00002-00000450-00000719 the end because it's gonna get really
yzUUfajuHKy-00003-00000720-00001044 good
yzUUfajuHKy-00004-00001045-00001243 [Music]
yzUUfajuHKy-00005-00001244-00001553 and we stand here today in defiance of
yzUUfajuHKy-00006-00001554-00001763 their speech and destroy their symbols
yzUUfajuHKy-00007-00001764-00001847 of Oppression
yzUUfajuHKy-00008-00001848-00001979 [Music]
yzUUfajuHKy-00009-00001980-00003115 [Applause]
yzUUfajuHKy-00010-00003116-00003443 did you see that why did they rip up the
yzUUfajuHKy-00011-00003444-00003670 Bible only you never hear them ripping
yzUUfajuHKy-00012-00003671-00003911 up a Quran or anything to do with Buddha
yzUUfajuHKy-00013-00003911-00004138 or any other religion it's because Jesus
yzUUfajuHKy-00014-00004139-00004372 is the only one that overcame sin and
yzUUfajuHKy-00015-00004373-00004667 death and he overcame the enemy 2 000
yzUUfajuHKy-00016-00004668-00004925 years ago no other religion did that and
yzUUfajuHKy-00017-00004926-00005152 he's the only one that has power over
yzUUfajuHKy-00018-00005153-00005356 Satan so I don't know what side you're
yzUUfajuHKy-00019-00005357-00005668 on but I'm on Jesus's side if you agree
yzUUfajuHKy-00020-00005669-00006050 with me follow or subscribe for more
y-i1k1P4qNu-00000-00000075-00000499 [Music]
y-i1k1P4qNu-00001-00000500-00000790 without without world this is decent
y-i1k1P4qNu-00002-00000791-00000950 once again with another pop dust
y-i1k1P4qNu-00003-00000951-00001220 exclusive and my guest at this time is a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00004-00001221-00001568 living legend most noted for his
y-i1k1P4qNu-00005-00001569-00001789 contribution to the legendary group
y-i1k1P4qNu-00006-00001791-00001970 Earth Wind and Fire along with a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00007-00001971-00002273 multitude of solo albums we're here to
y-i1k1P4qNu-00008-00002274-00002447 talk about his latest project love will
y-i1k1P4qNu-00009-00002448-00002575 find a way ladies and gentlemen give it
y-i1k1P4qNu-00010-00002576-00003265 up for mr. Philip Bailey mr. mr. Baker
y-i1k1P4qNu-00011-00003266-00003488 mr. Bailey how you doing today doing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00012-00003489-00003665 great man are you doing I'm doing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00013-00003665-00004019 amazing once again it's always a great
y-i1k1P4qNu-00014-00004020-00004181 time here pop this when we get to sit
y-i1k1P4qNu-00015-00004182-00004463 down with a legend and an architect of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00016-00004464-00004661 great music such as yourself so thank
y-i1k1P4qNu-00017-00004662-00004802 you for taking time out to speak to us
y-i1k1P4qNu-00018-00004803-00004995 today oh thank you everybody
y-i1k1P4qNu-00019-00004996-00005413 so you released your project love will
y-i1k1P4qNu-00020-00005414-00005793 find a way back in June of this year and
y-i1k1P4qNu-00021-00005794-00006109 me being somebody that is always growing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00022-00006110-00006331 up you know amongst you know you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00023-00006332-00006532 yourself you know both as a member of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00024-00006533-00006800 Wind & Fire and you know a lot of your
y-i1k1P4qNu-00025-00006801-00007048 own solo music this has got to be
y-i1k1P4qNu-00026-00007050-00007396 probably one of the best projects not
y-i1k1P4qNu-00027-00007397-00007727 just from you yourself but in general
y-i1k1P4qNu-00028-00007728-00007919 that I've probably heard this year oh I
y-i1k1P4qNu-00029-00007920-00008423 am you definitely you definitely managed
y-i1k1P4qNu-00030-00008424-00008633 to you know take you know all these
y-i1k1P4qNu-00031-00008634-00008795 different genres of music that you've
y-i1k1P4qNu-00032-00008796-00008981 been associated with different genres of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00033-00008982-00009209 music that you know you're most noted
y-i1k1P4qNu-00034-00009210-00009419 for being able to cover and really be
y-i1k1P4qNu-00035-00009420-00009799 able to bring them into a 2019 sort of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00036-00009800-00010124 space the album itself from what I
y-i1k1P4qNu-00037-00010125-00010283 understand took about two years to
y-i1k1P4qNu-00038-00010284-00010510 create and you who've been making music
y-i1k1P4qNu-00039-00010511-00010717 for such a long time do you find that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00040-00010718-00011113 making music now in 2019 is a whole lot
y-i1k1P4qNu-00041-00011114-00011410 easier versus you know the time when you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00042-00011411-00011648 and Earth when if I got started yeah it
y-i1k1P4qNu-00043-00011649-00012070 is it is and using that word easier it
y-i1k1P4qNu-00044-00012071-00012359 is easier it really is I mean not only
y-i1k1P4qNu-00045-00012360-00012721 the technology brings so much and - he's
y-i1k1P4qNu-00046-00012722-00013163 being able to do things so quickly for
y-i1k1P4qNu-00047-00013163-00013361 instance I give this video real Prince
y-i1k1P4qNu-00048-00013362-00013630 okay so I'm talking to that Robert
y-i1k1P4qNu-00049-00013631-00013796 Glasper and I have Niels
y-i1k1P4qNu-00050-00013797-00014108 I was longing to work on the project on
y-i1k1P4qNu-00051-00014109-00014432 certain songs and you know I had given
y-i1k1P4qNu-00052-00014433-00014882 him the song he throws back an mp3 on my
y-i1k1P4qNu-00053-00014883-00015452 phone and I go online and go to to
y-i1k1P4qNu-00054-00015453-00015766 Curtis Mayfield's original Billy Jack
y-i1k1P4qNu-00055-00015768-00016144 you know they explore that you know he
y-i1k1P4qNu-00056-00016145-00016547 you know when we go in the studio we're
y-i1k1P4qNu-00057-00016548-00016736 already halfway there you know what
y-i1k1P4qNu-00058-00016737-00016958 we're gonna do we've already be fighting
y-i1k1P4qNu-00059-00016959-00017258 back in a day you know we would be in a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00060-00017259-00017597 studio for days perhaps working on
y-i1k1P4qNu-00061-00017598-00017891 getting to that point yeah it's a lot
y-i1k1P4qNu-00062-00017892-00018236 easier and and the fact that I'll have
y-i1k1P4qNu-00063-00018237-00018911 to sing all them courses over every
y-i1k1P4qNu-00064-00018912-00019364 course you know ten plus years in living
y-i1k1P4qNu-00065-00019365-00019649 fire every single chorus and doubling
y-i1k1P4qNu-00066-00019650-00019928 every single part because it was only me
y-i1k1P4qNu-00067-00019929-00020106 and Maurice doing all those vocal
y-i1k1P4qNu-00068-00020107-00020462 originally entire you know it's like
y-i1k1P4qNu-00069-00020463-00020786 yeah a whole lotta people you can fly
y-i1k1P4qNu-00070-00020787-00021678 that vocal detective Elijah yes local
y-i1k1P4qNu-00071-00021679-00021911 yeah I definitely could see that being
y-i1k1P4qNu-00072-00021912-00022144 you know less official for somebody but
y-i1k1P4qNu-00073-00022145-00022358 you know an extensive range you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00074-00022359-00022547 vocally as yourself and it can be a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00075-00022548-00022756 little bit tiring you know doing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00076-00022757-00022933 multiple takes so I'm glad that you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00077-00022934-00023162 in this climate they can preserve you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00078-00023163-00023362 know your output were you being able to
y-i1k1P4qNu-00079-00023363-00023528 do things a whole lot easier but you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00080-00023529-00023815 mentioned Robert Glasper he contributed
y-i1k1P4qNu-00081-00023816-00024071 to the project there's also some other
y-i1k1P4qNu-00082-00024072-00024358 names you know some well noted you're
y-i1k1P4qNu-00083-00024359-00024500 very respected musicians that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00084-00024501-00024680 contributed to the process of this album
y-i1k1P4qNu-00085-00024681-00024971 home well I am being an individual
y-i1k1P4qNu-00086-00024972-00025180 Komachi Washington another one of my
y-i1k1P4qNu-00087-00025181-00025465 favorite jazz musicians do you feel like
y-i1k1P4qNu-00088-00025466-00025771 you know with your legacy artists who
y-i1k1P4qNu-00089-00025772-00025875 are you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00090-00025876-00026133 where who is by you came up you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00091-00026134-00026358 underneath you can be a little bit
y-i1k1P4qNu-00092-00026359-00026560 intimidated you know working with you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00093-00026561-00026698 because I'm pretty sure you have high
y-i1k1P4qNu-00094-00026699-00026842 standards being you know the
y-i1k1P4qNu-00095-00026843-00027012 accomplished musician that you are you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00096-00027013-00027249 feel like they kind of look into the
y-i1k1P4qNu-00097-00027250-00027427 situation a little bit tepid and send me
y-i1k1P4qNu-00098-00027427-00027511 knowing that they worked it with
y-i1k1P4qNu-00099-00027512-00027720 philipbaillie well you know the musical
y-i1k1P4qNu-00100-00027722-00027939 thing about music man is after you talk
y-i1k1P4qNu-00101-00027941-00028218 about I can give each other your
y-i1k1P4qNu-00102-00028219-00028585 accolades or whatever music is that is
y-i1k1P4qNu-00103-00028586-00029002 that is the common denominator you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00104-00029002-00029312 it's like when you start looking music
y-i1k1P4qNu-00105-00029313-00029689 music is the one that rules it's the one
y-i1k1P4qNu-00106-00029689-00029929 that tells you you know like is this
y-i1k1P4qNu-00107-00029930-00030307 right if it right is the wrong is it too
y-i1k1P4qNu-00108-00030308-00030652 much it is not enough you know so man at
y-i1k1P4qNu-00109-00030652-00031017 the point will you start making music
y-i1k1P4qNu-00110-00031018-00031395 will any music guide us so we're not
y-i1k1P4qNu-00111-00031397-00031605 we're not Manning out at that point but
y-i1k1P4qNu-00112-00031606-00031824 I think you know this Emma he's down
y-i1k1P4qNu-00113-00031825-00032040 with this you know I would yeah I'm a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00114-00032041-00032268 fan of those guys too you know but when
y-i1k1P4qNu-00115-00032269-00032473 we start everybody respects to your
y-i1k1P4qNu-00116-00032474-00032643 others music to stuff and we're all
y-i1k1P4qNu-00117-00032644-00032929 we're all feeling you know appreciative
y-i1k1P4qNu-00118-00032930-00033183 to get in the studio with one another
y-i1k1P4qNu-00119-00033184-00033364 but when we start making music and
y-i1k1P4qNu-00120-00033365-00033481 that's the beautiful thing about picking
y-i1k1P4qNu-00121-00033482-00033652 the right people now I don't know if
y-i1k1P4qNu-00122-00033653-00033849 this happens with everybody and whatever
y-i1k1P4qNu-00123-00033850-00034065 and I have been in the studio where
y-i1k1P4qNu-00124-00034066-00034270 people couldn't get past themselves you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00125-00034271-00034446 know that wasn't the case with any of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00126-00034447-00034807 these musician you know we you know we
y-i1k1P4qNu-00127-00034808-00035257 were we were we were dead set on okay
y-i1k1P4qNu-00128-00035258-00035479 where is this taking us where we gotta
y-i1k1P4qNu-00129-00035480-00035845 grow you know with you being you know in
y-i1k1P4qNu-00130-00035846-00036052 the space where you can you know have
y-i1k1P4qNu-00131-00036053-00036339 people give you you know your notoriety
y-i1k1P4qNu-00132-00036340-00036598 give you your respect you know give you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00133-00036599-00036751 you know your flowers for lack of a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00134-00036752-00036939 better term while you're still here one
y-i1k1P4qNu-00135-00036940-00037155 of the things that I experienced on when
y-i1k1P4qNu-00136-00037156-00037498 I talk to the legends as yourself is you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00137-00037499-00037674 know the meaning of legacy especially
y-i1k1P4qNu-00138-00037675-00037924 for a black artist I always feel like
y-i1k1P4qNu-00139-00037925-00038187 when it comes to you know specific
y-i1k1P4qNu-00140-00038188-00038358 genres of music and specific of people
y-i1k1P4qNu-00141-00038359-00038617 we don't covet our legends the same way
y-i1k1P4qNu-00142-00038618-00038806 other genres of music may cover them
y-i1k1P4qNu-00143-00038807-00039007 like stones will always be the stones no
y-i1k1P4qNu-00144-00039008-00039152 matter if they're performing an
y-i1k1P4qNu-00145-00039153-00039455 you know so on and so forth do you feel
y-i1k1P4qNu-00146-00039456-00039764 like you know music you know especially
y-i1k1P4qNu-00147-00039765-00040004 amongst black people has come to a point
y-i1k1P4qNu-00148-00040005-00040238 we're starting to appreciate our legends
y-i1k1P4qNu-00149-00040239-00040394 or do you feel like we still have miles
y-i1k1P4qNu-00150-00040395-00040637 to go in that regard well I think that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00151-00040638-00040919 we do because if we didn't
y-i1k1P4qNu-00152-00040920-00041174 there wouldn't be a commodity Washington
y-i1k1P4qNu-00153-00041175-00041372 right there was indeed a Robert Glasper
y-i1k1P4qNu-00154-00041373-00041633 that would lead a Christian Scott there
y-i1k1P4qNu-00155-00041634-00041969 wouldn't be you know you great you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00156-00041970-00042389 young musician Anderson path you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00157-00042390-00042713 those guys come from they come from
y-i1k1P4qNu-00158-00042714-00042965 music that was laid down and from
y-i1k1P4qNu-00159-00042966-00043196 musicians who laid it down before them
y-i1k1P4qNu-00160-00043197-00043526 and their respect and studying the art
y-i1k1P4qNu-00161-00043527-00043913 form and preparing themselves allows
y-i1k1P4qNu-00162-00043914-00044543 them the ability to read re-invent you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00163-00044544-00044726 know what has gone on before them
y-i1k1P4qNu-00164-00044727-00045182 there's nothing new yep you know redoing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00165-00045183-00045446 it in a different way right and it sends
y-i1k1P4qNu-00166-00045447-00045677 barring other elements that help shape
y-i1k1P4qNu-00167-00045678-00046217 the sound to begin with you know like
y-i1k1P4qNu-00168-00046218-00046493 it's like we learn to walk by mimicking
y-i1k1P4qNu-00169-00046494-00046889 or imitating people that we see right
y-i1k1P4qNu-00170-00046890-00047327 and then you know we may have a bit
y-i1k1P4qNu-00171-00047328-00047492 little different stress but they can
y-i1k1P4qNu-00172-00047493-00047744 basically scale we still walking yeah
y-i1k1P4qNu-00173-00047745-00047834 absolutely
y-i1k1P4qNu-00174-00047835-00048218 so with this album you're able to kind
y-i1k1P4qNu-00175-00048219-00048620 of be everywhere but still in the same
y-i1k1P4qNu-00176-00048621-00048839 place if that makes sense because with
y-i1k1P4qNu-00177-00048840-00049024 jazz it's open to interpretation
y-i1k1P4qNu-00178-00049025-00049340 musically is very very freeform is very
y-i1k1P4qNu-00179-00049341-00049550 very flowing but I feel like any room
y-i1k1P4qNu-00180-00049551-00049757 musician knows that there's always a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00181-00049758-00049928 concept there's always an end goal
y-i1k1P4qNu-00182-00049929-00050126 there's always an end game do you feel
y-i1k1P4qNu-00183-00050127-00050375 like it was easier to kind of put this
y-i1k1P4qNu-00184-00050376-00050732 together or was it just you kind of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00185-00050733-00050896 following different sounds that you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00186-00050897-00051083 might have been inspired by chasing that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00187-00051084-00051265 sound and then ultimately coming up with
y-i1k1P4qNu-00188-00051266-00051454 this project it wasn't easy
y-i1k1P4qNu-00189-00051455-00051713 yes nothing good nothing good is easy
y-i1k1P4qNu-00190-00051714-00051802 amen
y-i1k1P4qNu-00191-00051803-00052148 yes it was a challenge but it was a well
y-i1k1P4qNu-00192-00052149-00052405 welcome to challenge you know when
y-i1k1P4qNu-00193-00052407-00052492 you're working with
y-i1k1P4qNu-00194-00052494-00052760 musicians of that caliber artists of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00195-00052761-00052954 that caliber you're already in a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00196-00052955-00053357 rarefied atmosphere and so the
y-i1k1P4qNu-00197-00053358-00053680 expectation is always equal to the
y-i1k1P4qNu-00198-00053682-00053837 standard of the musician that you're
y-i1k1P4qNu-00199-00053838-00054091 working with right that's that that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00200-00054092-00054386 being said though sometimes you can get
y-i1k1P4qNu-00201-00054387-00054719 caught up in and that and don't go that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00202-00054720-00055060 extra mile which is to be very specific
y-i1k1P4qNu-00203-00055061-00055376 about where you want to go have it have
y-i1k1P4qNu-00204-00055377-00055637 a vision and have a direction you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00205-00055638-00055883 of where you want to go and and and meet
y-i1k1P4qNu-00206-00055884-00056141 that criteria I think that Robert
y-i1k1P4qNu-00207-00056141-00056674 Glasper involvement helped us to kind of
y-i1k1P4qNu-00208-00056675-00057113 focus what lane we wanted to be in kind
y-i1k1P4qNu-00209-00057114-00057419 of follow that that thread throughout so
y-i1k1P4qNu-00210-00057420-00057638 throughout the project we went back and
y-i1k1P4qNu-00211-00057639-00057812 cut other things over and the whole
y-i1k1P4qNu-00212-00057813-00058279 thing to make the whole project
y-i1k1P4qNu-00213-00058279-00058610 congenial make it all work together and
y-i1k1P4qNu-00214-00058611-00058792 you could definitely hear that you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00215-00058794-00058904 throughout the course of this project
y-i1k1P4qNu-00216-00058904-00059072 because once again even though jazz is
y-i1k1P4qNu-00217-00059073-00059380 sort of more freeform this is definitely
y-i1k1P4qNu-00218-00059382-00059537 you know a concise and you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00219-00059538-00059815 consistent and cohesive body of work so
y-i1k1P4qNu-00220-00059816-00059969 absolutely absolutely
y-i1k1P4qNu-00221-00059970-00060200 so in closing because I know you have a
y-i1k1P4qNu-00222-00060201-00060454 very very busy schedule my final
y-i1k1P4qNu-00223-00060455-00060869 question for you would be if you can sum
y-i1k1P4qNu-00224-00060870-00061204 up you know your legacy be it you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00225-00061204-00061567 via via with you know yourself as a solo
y-i1k1P4qNu-00226-00061569-00061778 artist everything from your foundation
y-i1k1P4qNu-00227-00061779-00062024 to everything that is you know fill
y-i1k1P4qNu-00228-00062025-00062357 ability demand a musician what would
y-i1k1P4qNu-00229-00062358-00062762 that boil down to you know across across
y-i1k1P4qNu-00230-00062763-00062980 the board for you I mean and I'm gonna
y-i1k1P4qNu-00231-00062982-00063137 trying to be evasive but yeah well
y-i1k1P4qNu-00232-00063138-00063572 that's not for me to do it's like for me
y-i1k1P4qNu-00233-00063573-00063965 it's just it's about keeping my my focus
y-i1k1P4qNu-00234-00063966-00064301 forward and continuing to go forward
y-i1k1P4qNu-00235-00064302-00064565 until you know the Creator takes me out
y-i1k1P4qNu-00236-00064566-00064966 of here whatever my legacy is you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00237-00064967-00065270 yeah the one thing I was like one thing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00238-00065271-00065525 I will say though I want to do those
y-i1k1P4qNu-00239-00065526-00065768 positive things I want my legacy to be
y-i1k1P4qNu-00240-00065769-00065848 positive
y-i1k1P4qNu-00241-00065849-00066259 I'm not negative absolutely well when
y-i1k1P4qNu-00242-00066260-00066583 I'm standing I feel like you know that's
y-i1k1P4qNu-00243-00066584-00066787 already submitted because you've
y-i1k1P4qNu-00244-00066788-00066955 definitely contributed you know a great
y-i1k1P4qNu-00245-00066956-00067150 deal to you know musical culture people
y-i1k1P4qNu-00246-00067151-00067321 like me were growing up you know
y-i1k1P4qNu-00247-00067322-00067546 listening to you and my parents listened
y-i1k1P4qNu-00248-00067547-00067609 to you
y-i1k1P4qNu-00249-00067610-00067807 you know grandparents listened to you so
y-i1k1P4qNu-00250-00067808-00068005 I feel like with future generations
y-i1k1P4qNu-00251-00068006-00068158 everything that you're doing
y-i1k1P4qNu-00252-00068159-00068280 you know everything that you've done
y-i1k1P4qNu-00253-00068281-00068566 will not be entertained we continue to
y-i1k1P4qNu-00254-00068567-00068755 honor you while you're still here and
y-i1k1P4qNu-00255-00068756-00068959 honor the music you know even when
y-i1k1P4qNu-00256-00068960-00069157 you're no longer here which I hope will
y-i1k1P4qNu-00257-00069158-00069532 be not anywhere close in the near future
y-i1k1P4qNu-00258-00069533-00069790 or distant future but mr. Bailey thank
y-i1k1P4qNu-00259-00069791-00069946 you so much for taking time out of your
y-i1k1P4qNu-00260-00069947-00070183 schedule to sit down and talk to us I
y-i1k1P4qNu-00261-00070184-00070390 really really appreciate it and thank
y-i1k1P4qNu-00262-00070391-00070555 you once again for everything that
y-i1k1P4qNu-00263-00070556-00070837 you've done for us you know as a man and
y-i1k1P4qNu-00264-00070838-00071179 as a musician thank you so much there's
y-i1k1P4qNu-00265-00071180-00071362 been another pot that's a screw self I
y-i1k1P4qNu-00266-00071363-00071614 am be singing once again mr. filler
y-i1k1P4qNu-00267-00071615-00071749 barely make sure you guys get his
y-i1k1P4qNu-00268-00071750-00071947 project love will find a way it is out
y-i1k1P4qNu-00269-00071948-00072307 now all the streaming platforms
yAj84jgKYGc-00000-00000000-00000206 hey everyone welcome to another English
yAj84jgKYGc-00001-00000206-00000374 grammar lesson today we're gonna be
yAj84jgKYGc-00002-00000375-00001598 covering parentheses so what exactly are
yAj84jgKYGc-00003-00001599-00001843 parentheses well first of all they look
yAj84jgKYGc-00004-00001844-00002054 like this and their job is to surround
yAj84jgKYGc-00005-00002055-00002246 extra information in a sentence that
yAj84jgKYGc-00006-00002247-00002405 could be removed without really
yAj84jgKYGc-00007-00002406-00002570 impacting the meaning or major
yAj84jgKYGc-00008-00002571-00002827 information in that sentence perhaps the
yAj84jgKYGc-00009-00002828-00002975 most common things that you'll find in
yAj84jgKYGc-00010-00002976-00003173 parentheses are acronyms which are
yAj84jgKYGc-00011-00003174-00003365 multiple letter abbreviations usually
yAj84jgKYGc-00012-00003365-00003563 for things like organizations schools
yAj84jgKYGc-00013-00003564-00003875 and leagues for example he goes to
yAj84jgKYGc-00014-00003876-00004238 Michigan State University MSU my father
yAj84jgKYGc-00015-00004239-00004340 played in the National Basketball
yAj84jgKYGc-00016-00004341-00004733 Association NBA I need some paid time
yAj84jgKYGc-00017-00004734-00004915 off PTO
yAj84jgKYGc-00018-00004916-00005170 another common use of parentheses is for
yAj84jgKYGc-00019-00005171-00005479 date ranges or lifespans World War three
yAj84jgKYGc-00020-00005480-00005954 21:52 21:54 was very deadly Jim Jones
yAj84jgKYGc-00021-00005955-00006400 1844 to 1900 was a very kind man we can
yAj84jgKYGc-00022-00006401-00006559 also use parentheses for page numbers
yAj84jgKYGc-00023-00006561-00006806 for homework please read chapter three
yAj84jgKYGc-00024-00006806-00007142 pages 43 to 57 and we might also use
yAj84jgKYGc-00025-00007143-00007384 them for measurements the model is two
yAj84jgKYGc-00026-00007386-00007748 feet 24 inches tall I think you get the
yAj84jgKYGc-00027-00007748-00008009 idea the point is we use parentheses to
yAj84jgKYGc-00028-00008009-00008219 surround extra information in a sentence
yAj84jgKYGc-00029-00008220-00008435 kind of like we would with commas or for
yAj84jgKYGc-00030-00008436-00008669 more specific things and other than that
yAj84jgKYGc-00031-00008670-00008860 basic idea there are really only three
yAj84jgKYGc-00032-00008861-00009038 things that you need to remember when it
yAj84jgKYGc-00033-00009039-00009338 comes to using parentheses first the
yAj84jgKYGc-00034-00009339-00009496 stuff in parentheses should always come
yAj84jgKYGc-00035-00009497-00009806 after the main information like you
yAj84jgKYGc-00036-00009807-00010037 wouldn't say this Randy played in the
yAj84jgKYGc-00037-00010038-00010334 NFL National Football League you want
yAj84jgKYGc-00038-00010335-00010467 the stuff in parentheses the
yAj84jgKYGc-00039-00010468-00010808 parenthetical information to come after
yAj84jgKYGc-00040-00010809-00011048 the main info you also don't want to use
yAj84jgKYGc-00041-00011049-00011281 the extra information as the main
yAj84jgKYGc-00042-00011282-00011506 information so like this would be wrong
yAj84jgKYGc-00043-00011507-00011803 too Randy played in the NFL National
yAj84jgKYGc-00044-00011804-00012035 Football League the acronym should come
yAj84jgKYGc-00045-00012036-00012388 after the full name not before and the
yAj84jgKYGc-00046-00012389-00012514 only other rule that you need to
yAj84jgKYGc-00047-00012515-00012677 remember is that you should be able to
yAj84jgKYGc-00048-00012678-00012874 take the stuff in parentheses out of
yAj84jgKYGc-00049-00012875-00013180 your sentence and still have a sentence
yAj84jgKYGc-00050-00013181-00013394 left and that includes having
yAj84jgKYGc-00051-00013396-00013554 all of the punctuation marks that you
yAj84jgKYGc-00052-00013555-00013872 would need like this watch today we
yAj84jgKYGc-00053-00013872-00014055 learned about World War one which lasted
yAj84jgKYGc-00054-00014056-00014409 from 1914 to 1918 now at a glance this
yAj84jgKYGc-00055-00014410-00014613 might look correct to you there's extra
yAj84jgKYGc-00056-00014613-00014847 information here it's a date we're all
yAj84jgKYGc-00057-00014847-00015141 good right wrong look what would happen
yAj84jgKYGc-00058-00015141-00015321 if we took the stuff in parentheses out
yAj84jgKYGc-00059-00015322-00015540 of this sentence what would the rest of
yAj84jgKYGc-00060-00015541-00015872 it say well let's read it today we
yAj84jgKYGc-00061-00015874-00016071 learned about World War one which lasted
yAj84jgKYGc-00062-00016072-00016629 from Yanks yeah that would be wrong the
yAj84jgKYGc-00063-00016630-00016761 point I'm getting at here is that you
yAj84jgKYGc-00064-00016762-00016953 can't just put parentheses around every
yAj84jgKYGc-00065-00016954-00017178 date tour every acronym or every page
yAj84jgKYGc-00066-00017179-00017400 number that you see you have to actually
yAj84jgKYGc-00067-00017401-00017664 look to make sure that you can take away
yAj84jgKYGc-00068-00017665-00018018 that stuff and still have a sentence and
yAj84jgKYGc-00069-00018019-00018216 the same thing is true for situations
yAj84jgKYGc-00070-00018217-00018264 like this
yAj84jgKYGc-00071-00018265-00018501 I'd like you guys to read chapter seven
yAj84jgKYGc-00072-00018502-00018894 pages 88 to and 99 now if we remove the
yAj84jgKYGc-00073-00018895-00019143 stuff in parentheses here there is still
yAj84jgKYGc-00074-00019144-00019344 a sentence I'd like you guys to read
yAj84jgKYGc-00075-00019345-00019563 chapter 7 except there's one small
yAj84jgKYGc-00076-00019564-00019815 problem do you see it by putting the
yAj84jgKYGc-00077-00019816-00020022 period inside the parentheses like we
yAj84jgKYGc-00078-00020023-00020241 did that means we would actually take
yAj84jgKYGc-00079-00020242-00020460 out the period from the sentence which
yAj84jgKYGc-00080-00020461-00020592 would be a problem because you know
yAj84jgKYGc-00081-00020593-00020778 sentences need periods or some kind of
yAj84jgKYGc-00082-00020779-00021015 end mark at least the correct version of
yAj84jgKYGc-00083-00021016-00021243 that sentence would look like this with
yAj84jgKYGc-00084-00021244-00021492 the period on the outside so it doesn't
yAj84jgKYGc-00085-00021493-00021666 get like hijacked and deleted from the
yAj84jgKYGc-00086-00021667-00021900 sentence with the other stuff now you
yAj84jgKYGc-00087-00021901-00022140 can have punctuation inside parentheses
yAj84jgKYGc-00088-00022141-00022326 it doesn't always have to go on the
yAj84jgKYGc-00089-00022327-00022548 outside my point was that you just have
yAj84jgKYGc-00090-00022549-00022740 to look at it and sort of you know use
yAj84jgKYGc-00091-00022741-00023004 your brain a little bit like this many
yAj84jgKYGc-00092-00023005-00023247 fast food restaurants McDonald's Burger
yAj84jgKYGc-00093-00023248-00023466 King etc are trying to add healthier
yAj84jgKYGc-00094-00023467-00023688 options to their menus now this is
yAj84jgKYGc-00095-00023689-00023877 correct because when I take out all the
yAj84jgKYGc-00096-00023878-00024132 stuff in parentheses I still have a full
yAj84jgKYGc-00097-00024133-00024282 sentence with all of the right
yAj84jgKYGc-00098-00024283-00024486 punctuation the period inside the
yAj84jgKYGc-00099-00024487-00024711 parentheses here is supposed to be
yAj84jgKYGc-00100-00024712-00024909 inside the parentheses because it's part
yAj84jgKYGc-00101-00024910-00025146 of the abbreviation if I put that period
yAj84jgKYGc-00102-00025147-00025368 outside and then took out the stuff in
yAj84jgKYGc-00103-00025369-00025545 parentheses you can see that I'd have a
yAj84jgKYGc-00104-00025546-00025702 bit of a problem
yAj84jgKYGc-00105-00025702-00025884 okay let's take a look at a few examples
yAj84jgKYGc-00106-00025885-00026120 and see if they're correct or not
yAj84jgKYGc-00107-00026122-00026511 the Civil War 1861 to 1865 was very
yAj84jgKYGc-00108-00026512-00026802 bloody okay so the first thing we need
yAj84jgKYGc-00109-00026802-00026955 to do is make sure that the stuff in
yAj84jgKYGc-00110-00026956-00027174 parentheses is actually extra
yAj84jgKYGc-00111-00027175-00027470 information and it is it tells us more
yAj84jgKYGc-00112-00027472-00027714 about the Civil War so now all we need
yAj84jgKYGc-00113-00027714-00027879 to do is see what would happen if we
yAj84jgKYGc-00114-00027880-00028182 take that information out the Civil War
yAj84jgKYGc-00115-00028183-00028419 was very bloody yeah that sounds good
yAj84jgKYGc-00116-00028420-00028776 that's correct next one GVSU Grand
yAj84jgKYGc-00117-00028777-00028962 Valley State University is a great
yAj84jgKYGc-00118-00028963-00029264 school okay so look at the information
yAj84jgKYGc-00119-00029266-00029538 in parentheses what do you think is it
yAj84jgKYGc-00120-00029539-00029845 extra is that stuff we don't really need
yAj84jgKYGc-00121-00029847-00030152 no right that's not extra that's the
yAj84jgKYGc-00122-00030154-00030477 main information GVSU the acronym is
yAj84jgKYGc-00123-00030477-00030723 what should be in parentheses this is
yAj84jgKYGc-00124-00030724-00030986 how the sentence should look
yAj84jgKYGc-00125-00030987-00031289 couple more the temperature was 32
yAj84jgKYGc-00126-00031290-00031535 degrees Fahrenheit zero degrees Celsius
yAj84jgKYGc-00127-00031536-00031787 okay so check the information in
yAj84jgKYGc-00128-00031788-00032093 parentheses is it extra yes it is
yAj84jgKYGc-00129-00032094-00032339 now let's see if we can take it out and
yAj84jgKYGc-00130-00032340-00032673 still have a sentence ooh Oh Oh bit of a
yAj84jgKYGc-00131-00032674-00032732 problem here
yAj84jgKYGc-00132-00032733-00032990 because what did we do well we hijacked
yAj84jgKYGc-00133-00032991-00033201 the period with the period inside the
yAj84jgKYGc-00134-00033202-00033401 parentheses like that if we take this
yAj84jgKYGc-00135-00033402-00033629 stuff out that means the period would go
yAj84jgKYGc-00136-00033630-00033830 away too which is a problem because then
yAj84jgKYGc-00137-00033831-00033965 we wouldn't actually have an ending for
yAj84jgKYGc-00138-00033966-00034217 our sentence so to fix that we would
yAj84jgKYGc-00139-00034218-00034471 very simply do this
yAj84jgKYGc-00140-00034472-00034765 last one I found the answer in the
yAj84jgKYGc-00141-00034766-00035068 frequently asked questions FAQ section
yAj84jgKYGc-00142-00035069-00035365 of the website okay take a look at the
yAj84jgKYGc-00143-00035366-00035557 seven parentheses and see if it's extra
yAj84jgKYGc-00144-00035558-00035884 cool it is now let's take it out and see
yAj84jgKYGc-00145-00035885-00036199 what we have I still see a sentence so
yAj84jgKYGc-00146-00036200-00036442 bada-bing bada-boom this sentence is
yAj84jgKYGc-00147-00036443-00036871 correct cool well whether you came here
yAj84jgKYGc-00148-00036872-00037018 for a refresher or just now learning
yAj84jgKYGc-00149-00037019-00037180 this stuff for the first time I hope
yAj84jgKYGc-00150-00037181-00037357 this video helps be sure to check out
yAj84jgKYGc-00151-00037358-00037450 the free practice down in the
yAj84jgKYGc-00152-00037451-00037681 description and see you next time
yAj84jgKYGc-00153-00037682-00037936 Thanks
yAosL7bG5du-00000-00000000-00000496 [Music]
yAosL7bG5du-00001-00000497-00000749 hello welcome back to another monthly
yAosL7bG5du-00002-00000750-00001190 lucky Joe and this month we have 3431
yAosL7bG5du-00003-00001191-00001433 participants today we're going to find
yAosL7bG5du-00004-00001434-00001798 out who is the winner for the ARP nine
yAosL7bG5du-00005-00001798-00002227 first we have 3000 so we have zero one
yAosL7bG5du-00006-00002228-00002458 [Music]
yAosL7bG5du-00007-00002459-00002893 two and three now we're going to pick
yAosL7bG5du-00008-00002894-00003478 the first number and the first number is
yAosL7bG5du-00009-00003479-00003958 zero now we can have all the numbers in
yAosL7bG5du-00010-00003959-00004454 four five six seven eight nine and let's
yAosL7bG5du-00011-00004455-00004799 find out the secret number first number
yAosL7bG5du-00012-00004800-00005240 is zero the second number is six all
yAosL7bG5du-00013-00005241-00005647 right so what's third number the third
yAosL7bG5du-00014-00005648-00006047 number is two now we have zero six two
yAosL7bG5du-00015-00006048-00006215 and we're going to find out the last
yAosL7bG5du-00016-00006216-00006506 number and we will have a winner today
yAosL7bG5du-00017-00006506-00006973 the nos number is two so the winner is
yAosL7bG5du-00018-00006975-00007439 six to two congratulations to the
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yAosL7bG5du-00024-00008925-00009684 [Music]
yAA14dNWtIy-00000-00000000-00001675 now you'd set him straight
yAA14dNWtIy-00001-00001676-00001979 you don't mommy saying sir maybe we
yAA14dNWtIy-00002-00001980-00002183 should head to the assembly point not
yAA14dNWtIy-00003-00002184-00002239 yet
yAA14dNWtIy-00004-00002240-00002667 Pearson we'll get you sir
yAA14dNWtIy-00005-00002668-00003010 is it true about Pearson getting those
yAA14dNWtIy-00006-00003011-00003313 men killed at the Kasserine pass one day
yAA14dNWtIy-00007-00003314-00003584 Daniel's you leading your own platoon
yAA14dNWtIy-00008-00003585-00004354 you find out there's usually to keep up
yAA14dNWtIy-00009-00004355-00004568 let's go and go maybe Pierce is still at
yAA14dNWtIy-00010-00004569-00004661 the base of the hill
yAA14dNWtIy-00011-00004662-00004954 I'm guessing away pass back keep movin
yAA14dNWtIy-00012-00004955-00005106 goddamnit
yAA14dNWtIy-00013-00005107-00005576 sounds like our guys Daniel you alright
yAA14dNWtIy-00014-00005577-00005806 yeah my where's the rest
yAA14dNWtIy-00015-00005807-00006061 Pearson took him to attack the guns we'd
yAA14dNWtIy-00016-00006062-00006236 beg for reinforcements two percent my
yAA14dNWtIy-00017-00006237-00006520 [__] will come back for you hurry they
yAA14dNWtIy-00018-00006522-00007408 need us
yAA14dNWtIy-00023-00029463-00031224 all right pushing hang in there buddy
yAA14dNWtIy-00025-00034537-00037075 take it out
yAA14dNWtIy-00026-00037076-00038584 gotta keep moving
yAA14dNWtIy-00027-00038585-00038866 good to see you buddy
yAA14dNWtIy-00028-00038867-00039092 Harrison Emma when you're ready private
yAA14dNWtIy-00029-00039093-00039377 I'm staying on mission we need to get
yAA14dNWtIy-00030-00039378-00039593 our engineer to clear that pillbox this
yAA14dNWtIy-00031-00039594-00039680 isn't over
yAA14dNWtIy-00032-00039681-00039854 Daniel's the score Parker so you can
yAA14dNWtIy-00033-00039855-00040070 plant a charge on that bunker yes
yAA14dNWtIy-00034-00040071-00040415 sergeant Daniels let me know when you're
yAA14dNWtIy-00035-00040416-00040706 ready keep your head down and go lay
yAA14dNWtIy-00036-00040707-00041594 suppressive fire let me know when to go
yAA14dNWtIy-00038-00047163-00049253 keep your head down and go
yAA14dNWtIy-00040-00052441-00053597 toss them over
yAA14dNWtIy-00041-00053598-00053847 keep your head down and go nice
yAA14dNWtIy-00042-00053848-00055971 impressive fire no go covering fire
yAA14dNWtIy-00043-00055972-00058389 [Music]
yAA14dNWtIy-00044-00058390-00058698 [Music]
yDD3HGXAjxc-00000-00000056-00000238 for this problem we're going to solve
yDD3HGXAjxc-00001-00000239-00000463 the following system of equations
yDD3HGXAjxc-00002-00000463-00000623 we're going to use the process of
yDD3HGXAjxc-00003-00000624-00000862 elimination by subtracting the bottom
yDD3HGXAjxc-00004-00000863-00000966 equation
yDD3HGXAjxc-00005-00000967-00001391 so that we get 14x
yDD3HGXAjxc-00006-00001392-00001743 equals negative 28 if we divide both
yDD3HGXAjxc-00007-00001744-00001879 sides by 14
yDD3HGXAjxc-00008-00001880-00002223 we'll get x equals negative two
yDD3HGXAjxc-00009-00002224-00002415 now we're going to plug in x equals
yDD3HGXAjxc-00010-00002416-00002623 negative two into one of the equations
yDD3HGXAjxc-00011-00002624-00002758 to solve for y
yDD3HGXAjxc-00012-00002759-00002950 to solve for y we want to get the right
yDD3HGXAjxc-00013-00002951-00003079 side equal to zero
yDD3HGXAjxc-00014-00003080-00003319 so we're going to add four to both sides
yDD3HGXAjxc-00015-00003320-00003511 so that we get
yDD3HGXAjxc-00016-00003511-00003854 y squared minus eight y
yDD3HGXAjxc-00017-00003855-00004199 plus 16 equals zero
yDD3HGXAjxc-00018-00004200-00004527 now we can factor the left side to be
yDD3HGXAjxc-00019-00004528-00004943 y minus four squared
yDD3HGXAjxc-00020-00004944-00005286 equals zero now we can see that y
yDD3HGXAjxc-00021-00005287-00005654 is equal to four now that we have our x
yDD3HGXAjxc-00022-00005655-00005702 and y
yDD3HGXAjxc-00023-00005703-00005934 values we can see that the intersecting
yDD3HGXAjxc-00024-00005935-00006191 point is at negative 2
yDD3HGXAjxc-00025-00006192-00006454 4 and this is the solution to the
yDD3HGXAjxc-00026-00006455-00006550 problem
yDD3HGXAjxc-00027-00006551-00006783 we can also graph the two equations and
yDD3HGXAjxc-00028-00006784-00006959 the solution
yDD3HGXAjxc-00029-00006959-00007263 the standard form of the first equation
yDD3HGXAjxc-00030-00007264-00007614 is x plus five
yDD3HGXAjxc-00031-00007615-00008006 squared plus y
yDD3HGXAjxc-00032-00008008-00008310 minus four squared
yDD3HGXAjxc-00033-00008311-00008639 equals nine this circle has a center at
yDD3HGXAjxc-00034-00008640-00008719 negative 5
yDD3HGXAjxc-00035-00008720-00009031 4 with a radius of 3. using this we'll
yDD3HGXAjxc-00036-00009032-00009327 graph a circle that looks like this
yDD3HGXAjxc-00037-00009328-00009646 the standard form of the second equation
yDD3HGXAjxc-00038-00009647-00010055 is x minus 2 squared
yDD3HGXAjxc-00039-00010056-00010431 plus y minus 4
yDD3HGXAjxc-00040-00010432-00010831 squared equals 16. this circle has a
yDD3HGXAjxc-00041-00010832-00010935 center at 2
yDD3HGXAjxc-00042-00010936-00011263 4 with a radius of 4. using this
yDD3HGXAjxc-00043-00011264-00011527 we'll graph a circle that looks like
yDD3HGXAjxc-00044-00011528-00011655 this
yDD3HGXAjxc-00045-00011656-00011903 now we can see our solution at the point
yDD3HGXAjxc-00046-00011904-00011974 negative 2
yDD3HGXAjxc-00047-00011975-00012439 4 and this completes the problem
yFhzgz4n2ju-00000-00000239-00000551 if you wanna be a grump well that's okay
yFhzgz4n2ju-00001-00000552-00000782 but could you be a grump kinda further
yFhzgz4n2ju-00002-00000783-00000886 away
yFhzgz4n2ju-00003-00000888-00001070 it's not that i don't love you cause you
yFhzgz4n2ju-00004-00001071-00001215 know that i do
yFhzgz4n2ju-00005-00001216-00001535 sometimes i'm grumpy too
yFhzgz4n2ju-00006-00001536-00001847 i think i understand
yFhzgz4n2ju-00007-00001848-00002175 exactly what it is you're going through
yFhzgz4n2ju-00008-00002176-00002383 when your oatmeal is lumpy and your
yFhzgz4n2ju-00009-00002384-00002631 socks are all bumpy well what's a poor
yFhzgz4n2ju-00010-00002632-00002728 kid to do
yFhzgz4n2ju-00011-00002729-00002918 [Music]
yFhzgz4n2ju-00012-00002919-00003183 that is a song by david weinstein um
yFhzgz4n2ju-00013-00003184-00003406 music for aardvarks hi everybody it's
yFhzgz4n2ju-00014-00003407-00003575 kyler from the topeka and shawnee county
yFhzgz4n2ju-00015-00003576-00003759 public library and why in the world
yFhzgz4n2ju-00016-00003760-00003943 would kyla be talking about being grumpy
yFhzgz4n2ju-00017-00003944-00004127 well it's because we've got an event
yFhzgz4n2ju-00018-00004128-00004343 coming up november 14th through the 20th
yFhzgz4n2ju-00019-00004344-00004535 is kansas reefs preschoolers week and
yFhzgz4n2ju-00020-00004536-00004831 the book this year is grumpy bird it's
yFhzgz4n2ju-00021-00004832-00004983 gonna be really fun and you you want to
yFhzgz4n2ju-00022-00004984-00005206 find out why grumpy bird's feeling
yFhzgz4n2ju-00023-00005207-00005438 grumpy and how his friends can help him
yFhzgz4n2ju-00024-00005439-00005631 you can have your very own copy of this
yFhzgz4n2ju-00025-00005632-00005815 book you can come to into the library
yFhzgz4n2ju-00026-00005816-00005991 anytime during that week the 14th to the
yFhzgz4n2ju-00027-00005992-00006238 20th and pick up your very own copy
yFhzgz4n2ju-00028-00006239-00006503 or on tuesday i'm going to be the 5th
yFhzgz4n2ju-00029-00006504-00006727 16th there'll be a story time in the
yFhzgz4n2ju-00030-00006728-00006959 auditorium from 9 30 to 11 30 there's
yFhzgz4n2ju-00031-00006959-00007159 story time activities crafts and of
yFhzgz4n2ju-00032-00007159-00007391 course you can pick up your book awesome
yFhzgz4n2ju-00033-00007392-00007551 hey and if tuesday's doesn't work out
yFhzgz4n2ju-00034-00007552-00007719 for you we're also doing saturday story
yFhzgz4n2ju-00035-00007720-00007903 time on the 20th where that's gonna be
yFhzgz4n2ju-00036-00007904-00008055 your last day to be able to pick up the
yFhzgz4n2ju-00037-00008056-00008287 book the grumpy bird by uh jeremy
yFhzgz4n2ju-00038-00008288-00008551 tankard so come on in and see it and
yFhzgz4n2ju-00039-00008552-00008831 maybe we can sing this all together
yFhzgz4n2ju-00040-00008832-00009135 if you wanna be a crumple that's okay
yFhzgz4n2ju-00041-00009136-00009374 but could you be a grump kinda further
yFhzgz4n2ju-00042-00009375-00009471 away
yFhzgz4n2ju-00043-00009472-00009663 it's not that i don't love you cause you
yFhzgz4n2ju-00044-00009664-00009799 know that i do
yFhzgz4n2ju-00045-00009800-00010127 sometimes i'm grumpy too
yFhzgz4n2ju-00046-00010128-00010438 i think i understand
yFhzgz4n2ju-00047-00010439-00010774 exactly what it is you're going through
yFhzgz4n2ju-00048-00010775-00010983 when your oatmeal is lumpy and your
yFhzgz4n2ju-00049-00010984-00011310 socks are all bumpy what's a poor kid to
yFhzgz4n2ju-00050-00011311-00011623 do
yFhzgz4n2ju-00051-00011624-00011774 we'll see you next week for the kansas
yFhzgz4n2ju-00052-00011775-00011935 reason preschoolers make sure you get
yFhzgz4n2ju-00053-00011936-00012214 your book jeremy tanker's grumpy grumpy
yFhzgz4n2ju-00054-00012215-00012342 bird
yFhzgz4n2ju-00055-00012343-00013007 guys have a nice day
yFhzgz4n2ju-00056-00013008-00013216 you
yFne4BM666U-00000-00000003-00000424 live from Manhattan it's the Jews
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yFne4BM666U-00003-00001292-00001511 and welcome to the Big Apple
yFne4BM666U-00004-00001512-00001673 AWS Summit kicking off here at the
yFne4BM666U-00005-00001673-00001876 Javits Convention Center New York New
yFne4BM666U-00006-00001877-00002090 York along with Stu many men I'm John
yFne4BM666U-00007-00002091-00002258 wall's welcome to the cube as we
yFne4BM666U-00008-00002259-00002456 continue our coverage here real may feel
yFne4BM666U-00009-00002457-00002696 like this is ongoing so as far as hope
yFne4BM666U-00010-00002697-00002840 we're going to AWS I was at the public
yFne4BM666U-00011-00002841-00003272 sector summit AWS from the outside in
yFne4BM666U-00012-00003272-00003524 for a very long time so typically what
yFne4BM666U-00013-00003525-00003701 you make of this I weight a regional
yFne4BM666U-00014-00003702-00003827 show we probably have four or five
yFne4BM666U-00015-00003828-00004006 thousand folks here good turnout oh
yFne4BM666U-00016-00004007-00004202 what's the vibe you got what's the
yFne4BM666U-00017-00004203-00004304 feeling yeah John I was really
yFne4BM666U-00018-00004305-00004472 interesting cause we've covered a few of
yFne4BM666U-00019-00004473-00004631 the regional summits but the first one
yFne4BM666U-00020-00004632-00004835 that I've attended I'm actually already
yFne4BM666U-00021-00004836-00004972 has been starting to plan for AWS
yFne4BM666U-00022-00004973-00005138 reinvent which is the big show in
yFne4BM666U-00023-00005139-00005395 November expecting probably around
yFne4BM666U-00024-00005396-00005654 50,000 people at that check show but I
yFne4BM666U-00025-00005655-00005834 think four years ago four and a half
yFne4BM666U-00026-00005835-00006022 years ago when I went to the first Atos
yFne4BM666U-00027-00006023-00006338 summit in Las Vegas it was about the
yFne4BM666U-00028-00006339-00006503 size of what this show is so Adrienne
yFne4BM666U-00029-00006504-00006667 Cockroft got up on stage said there were
yFne4BM666U-00030-00006668-00006934 about 20,000 people registered of course
yFne4BM666U-00031-00006936-00007103 registered doesn't mean that they're all
yFne4BM666U-00032-00007104-00007319 here a lot of people I know watching the
yFne4BM666U-00033-00007320-00007589 live stream as well as you know it's
yFne4BM666U-00034-00007590-00007742 free to attend so if I'm in New York
yFne4BM666U-00035-00007743-00007909 City there's just a few people in New
yFne4BM666U-00036-00007911-00008078 York that care about tech probably so
yFne4BM666U-00037-00008079-00008273 maybe they'll pop in some time for today
yFne4BM666U-00038-00008274-00008423 but in the keynote there's definitely a
yFne4BM666U-00039-00008424-00008651 few thousand people it's a good shiet
yFne4BM666U-00040-00008652-00008899 sized expo hall here um you know this
yFne4BM666U-00041-00008900-00009095 could be a you know five or six thousand
yFne4BM666U-00042-00009096-00009331 person event for the size of the expo
yFne4BM666U-00043-00009332-00009464 hall that they have here in the Javits
yFne4BM666U-00044-00009465-00009706 Center can really hold some big you know
yFne4BM666U-00045-00009707-00009980 the big activity here so been impressive
yFne4BM666U-00046-00009981-00010262 at scope because you know Amazon and the
yFne4BM666U-00047-00010263-00010580 cloud is still in early days as Jeff
yFne4BM666U-00048-00010581-00010792 Bezos says there is no you know day two
yFne4BM666U-00049-00010793-00010973 we're always day one for and what's
yFne4BM666U-00050-00010974-00011164 going on went through a lot of
yFne4BM666U-00051-00011165-00011371 announcements a lot of momentum a lot of
yFne4BM666U-00052-00011372-00011581 revenue in this big cloud thing what
yFne4BM666U-00053-00011582-00011708 they were talking about you talked about
yFne4BM666U-00054-00011709-00011917 Adrian - we'll get to his keynote
yFne4BM666U-00055-00011918-00012038 comments in a little bit talking about
yFne4BM666U-00056-00012039-00012256 revenue growth still in the uptick right
yFne4BM666U-00057-00012257-00012494 year-to-year 42 percent so still go in
yFne4BM666U-00058-00012495-00012646 there but then on the other side you do
yFne4BM666U-00059-00012647-00012919 see some writing going on that that
yFne4BM666U-00060-00012920-00013096 maybe the uptick slowing down
yFne4BM666U-00061-00013097-00013268 just a hair as far as cloud deployment
yFne4BM666U-00062-00013269-00013475 goes yeah that's a great thing because
yFne4BM666U-00063-00013476-00013622 you know what we're all staring at the
yFne4BM666U-00064-00013622-00013861 numbers and it it's no longer Amazon
yFne4BM666U-00065-00013862-00014207 right now is not growing 75 80 % as
yFne4BM666U-00066-00014208-00014450 opposed to the companies trying to catch
yFne4BM666U-00067-00014451-00014716 up to them like Microsoft is growing at
yFne4BM666U-00068-00014718-00014930 you know more that Northrop 7 budget
yFne4BM666U-00069-00014931-00015197 right numbers % but Amazon if you look
yFne4BM666U-00070-00015197-00015430 at infrastructure to service is you know
yFne4BM666U-00071-00015431-00015677 the largest out there you know what was
yFne4BM666U-00072-00015678-00015847 it it was a 16 billion dollar run rate
yFne4BM666U-00073-00015848-00016006 looking at the last 12 months
yFne4BM666U-00074-00016007-00016213 looking back still over 40 percent
yFne4BM666U-00075-00016215-00016466 growth rate so yes is the growth slowing
yFne4BM666U-00076-00016467-00016616 down a little bit but that's just
yFne4BM666U-00077-00016617-00016769 because they're now at a big number so
yFne4BM666U-00078-00016770-00016958 it's a little tougher but they keep
yFne4BM666U-00079-00016959-00017158 adding services they keep adding users
yFne4BM666U-00080-00017159-00017444 some you know big users up on stage some
yFne4BM666U-00081-00017445-00017618 some new services getting announced
yFne4BM666U-00082-00017619-00017903 because the way Andy jazzy puts it I
yFne4BM666U-00083-00017904-00018071 mean every day when you wake up there's
yFne4BM666U-00084-00018072-00018250 another three services from Amazon so
yFne4BM666U-00085-00018251-00018491 it's not like they had to say oh geez
yFne4BM666U-00086-00018492-00018733 can we hold something off you know I go
yFne4BM666U-00087-00018734-00018872 to the typical Enterprise Show and it's
yFne4BM666U-00088-00018873-00019025 like oh we're gonna have a bundle of
yFne4BM666U-00089-00019026-00019225 announcements that we do Amazon could
yFne4BM666U-00090-00019226-00019397 have one of these every week somewhere
yFne4BM666U-00091-00019398-00019586 and every day could be like oh here's
yFne4BM666U-00092-00019587-00019708 three new services and they're kind of
yFne4BM666U-00093-00019709-00019871 interesting because every day that's
yFne4BM666U-00094-00019872-00020030 kind of what they have yeah yeah and I
yFne4BM666U-00095-00020031-00020153 don't mean to paint like the wolf is at
yFne4BM666U-00096-00020154-00020303 the door by any means but but the
yFne4BM666U-00097-00020304-00020489 competitors are at the door so I mean
yFne4BM666U-00098-00020490-00020696 how much of that factors into this space
yFne4BM666U-00099-00020697-00020881 you think right now that you pointed out
yFne4BM666U-00100-00020882-00021089 AWS has this huge market share right
yFne4BM666U-00101-00021090-00021253 there though they're not even the root
yFne4BM666U-00102-00021254-00021437 gorilla they're like the elephant and
yFne4BM666U-00103-00021438-00021614 the gorilla in the room but at the same
yFne4BM666U-00104-00021615-00021827 time you do get as you're coming on
yFne4BM666U-00105-00021828-00021983 Google so out there looking there's some
yFne4BM666U-00106-00021984-00022159 other players as well yeah well if you
yFne4BM666U-00107-00022160-00022312 talk to the Amazon people they don't
yFne4BM666U-00108-00022313-00022475 care about the competitors they care
yFne4BM666U-00109-00022476-00022678 about their customers so they focused
yFne4BM666U-00110-00022679-00022925 very you know very much on what their
yFne4BM666U-00111-00022926-00023087 customers are doing they work on really
yFne4BM666U-00112-00023088-00023405 small teams so you know if we want to
yFne4BM666U-00113-00023406-00023522 talk about a cup of the announcements
yFne4BM666U-00114-00023523-00023699 today one of the ones that at least the
yFne4BM666U-00115-00023700-00023918 community I was watching its AWS glue
yFne4BM666U-00116-00023919-00024259 which really helps to get kind of ETL
yFne4BM666U-00117-00024260-00024478 which is the extract transform and load
yFne4BM666U-00118-00024479-00024686 really a lot of a heavy lifting and
yFne4BM666U-00119-00024687-00024899 undifferentiated heavy lifting that data
yFne4BM666U-00120-00024900-00025103 scientists are doing matwood who's up on
yFne4BM666U-00121-00025104-00025378 the key nodes that 75% of their time is
yFne4BM666U-00122-00025379-00025543 done on this kind of stuff and here's
yFne4BM666U-00123-00025544-00025736 something that can greatly reduce it a
yFne4BM666U-00124-00025737-00025964 few people in the Twitter stream we're
yFne4BM666U-00125-00025964-00026083 talking about they've used the beta of
yFne4BM666U-00126-00026084-00026312 it they're really excited it was one
yFne4BM666U-00127-00026313-00026520 didn't sound all that exciting but once
yFne4BM666U-00128-00026520-00026670 you get into it it's like oh wow game
yFne4BM666U-00129-00026670-00026858 changer this is going to free up so much
yFne4BM666U-00130-00026859-00027074 time really accelerate that that speed
yFne4BM666U-00131-00027075-00027183 of what I'm doing
yFne4BM666U-00132-00027183-00027402 Adrienne Cockroft talked about speed and
yFne4BM666U-00133-00027402-00027636 like flight freeing me for some of the
yFne4BM666U-00134-00027637-00027758 early constraints
yFne4BM666U-00135-00027759-00027896 you know I'm an infrastructure guy by
yFne4BM666U-00136-00027897-00028035 background and everything was like ah
yFne4BM666U-00137-00028036-00028227 I've got that boat anchor of stuff that
yFne4BM666U-00138-00028227-00028404 I need to move along and the refresh
yFne4BM666U-00139-00028405-00028620 cycles and what do I have budget for
yFne4BM666U-00140-00028620-00028865 today and now I could spin things up so
yFne4BM666U-00141-00028866-00029117 much faster they give an example of a oh
yFne4BM666U-00142-00029118-00029304 I'm gonna do this on hive and it's gonna
yFne4BM666U-00143-00029305-00029543 take me five years to do it as opposed
yFne4BM666U-00144-00029544-00029795 to if I do it in the nice AWS service it
yFne4BM666U-00145-00029796-00030105 takes 155 seconds right so you know
yFne4BM666U-00146-00030106-00030333 we've had lots of examples like this one
yFne4BM666U-00147-00030333-00030542 of the earliest customers I remember
yFne4BM666U-00148-00030543-00030714 talking to you know over four years ago
yFne4BM666U-00149-00030714-00031014 cycle computing was like we would build
yFne4BM666U-00150-00031014-00031193 the supercomputer and it would have
yFne4BM666U-00151-00031194-00031424 taken us two years and you know millions
yFne4BM666U-00152-00031425-00031652 of dollars to build and instead we did
yFne4BM666U-00153-00031653-00031842 the entire project in two months and it
yFne4BM666U-00154-00031843-00032073 cost us $10,000 so those are the kind of
yFne4BM666U-00155-00032074-00032318 transformational things that we expect
yFne4BM666U-00156-00032319-00032549 to hear from Amazon lots of customers
yFne4BM666U-00157-00032550-00032774 but you know getting into the nuance of
yFne4BM666U-00158-00032775-00032973 it's it's a lot of its building new
yFne4BM666U-00159-00032974-00033195 service Hulu got on stage and it wasn't
yFne4BM666U-00160-00033196-00033395 that they didn't say we've killed all of
yFne4BM666U-00161-00033396-00033549 our data centers and everything that you
yFne4BM666U-00162-00033550-00033746 do on Hulu is now a nativist they said
yFne4BM666U-00163-00033747-00034026 we wanted to do live TV live TV is very
yFne4BM666U-00164-00034027-00034205 different from what we had built for and
yFne4BM666U-00165-00034206-00034415 our infrastructure and the streaming
yFne4BM666U-00166-00034416-00034626 services that Amazon had and the reach
yFne4BM666U-00167-00034627-00034790 and the CDN and everything that they can
yFne4BM666U-00168-00034791-00035055 do there makes it so that we could do
yFne4BM666U-00169-00035056-00035301 this much faster and integrate what we
yFne4BM666U-00170-00035302-00035523 were doing before with the live TV put
yFne4BM666U-00171-00035524-00035705 those things together transformational
yFne4BM666U-00172-00035706-00035901 expands their business model and helps
yFne4BM666U-00173-00035902-00036077 move forward Lulu says they're not just
yFne4BM666U-00174-00036078-00036230 a media company they're technology
yFne4BM666U-00175-00036231-00036482 company and Amazon and Amazon support as
yFne4BM666U-00176-00036483-00036705 a partner helps them with that transfer
yFne4BM666U-00177-00036706-00036855 so that they're changing their mission
yFne4BM666U-00178-00036856-00037014 obviously and then technologically to
yFne4BM666U-00179-00037015-00037260 have to help to do that part of the the
yFne4BM666U-00180-00037261-00037464 migration hub EWS migration up we talked
yFne4BM666U-00181-00037465-00037580 about that as well one of those new
yFne4BM666U-00182-00037581-00037832 services that they rolled out today I
yFne4BM666U-00183-00037833-00038051 think the quote was migration is a
yFne4BM666U-00184-00038052-00038217 journey and we're gonna make it a little
yFne4BM666U-00185-00038218-00038414 simpler right now yeah I mean you know
yFne4BM666U-00186-00038415-00038523 we've been here for the last couple of
yFne4BM666U-00187-00038524-00038765 years you know the database it's so you
yFne4BM666U-00188-00038766-00038892 know whether I've got Oracle databases
yFne4BM666U-00189-00038893-00038983 whether it's running
yFne4BM666U-00190-00038984-00039226 you know SQL before I want to migrate
yFne4BM666U-00191-00039227-00039457 them and with Amazon now I have so many
yFne4BM666U-00192-00039458-00039646 different migration tools that write
yFne4BM666U-00193-00039647-00039880 this migration hub now is a lot of going
yFne4BM666U-00194-00039881-00040105 to allow me to track all of my great
yFne4BM666U-00195-00040106-00040420 migrations across AWS so this is not for
yFne4BM666U-00196-00040421-00040588 the company that's saying oh yeah I'm
yFne4BM666U-00197-00040589-00040768 tinkering with some stuff and I'm doing
yFne4BM666U-00198-00040769-00040966 some test dev but the enterprise that
yFne4BM666U-00199-00040967-00041158 has you know thousands of applications
yFne4BM666U-00200-00041159-00041368 or you know lots of locations and lots
yFne4BM666U-00201-00041369-00041587 of people they now need managers of
yFne4BM666U-00202-00041588-00041860 managers to watch this and you know some
yFne4BM666U-00203-00041861-00042029 partners involved to help with a lot of
yFne4BM666U-00204-00042030-00042238 these services but you know really
yFne4BM666U-00205-00042239-00042346 sprawling
yFne4BM666U-00206-00042347-00042571 all of the services that Amazon have
yFne4BM666U-00207-00042572-00042742 every time they put up one of those you
yFne4BM666U-00208-00042743-00042904 know I charts with just all of these
yFne4BM666U-00209-00042905-00043102 different boxes every one of them when
yFne4BM666U-00210-00043103-00043270 you tend to digging it's like oh you
yFne4BM666U-00211-00043271-00043438 know machine learning was a category
yFne4BM666U-00212-00043439-00043607 before and now there's like you know
yFne4BM666U-00213-00043608-00043849 dozens of things inside it so you know
yFne4BM666U-00214-00043850-00044005 you keep drilling down I feel like it's
yFne4BM666U-00215-00044006-00044155 that Christopher Nolan movie Inception
yFne4BM666U-00216-00044156-00044437 you know we keep going levels deep as to
yFne4BM666U-00217-00044438-00044638 kind of figure it out and you know we
yFne4BM666U-00218-00044639-00044791 need to move at cloud time which is
yFne4BM666U-00219-00044792-00045001 really fast as opposed to kind of the
yFne4BM666U-00220-00045002-00045232 old Enterprise time we hit on machine
yFne4BM666U-00221-00045233-00045546 learning we saw a lot of examples that
yFne4BM666U-00222-00045547-00045848 quarry cut across a pretty diverse set
yFne4BM666U-00223-00045849-00046171 of brands and and sectors and really the
yFne4BM666U-00224-00046172-00046450 democratization of machine learning more
yFne4BM666U-00225-00046451-00046615 less at least that was a takeaway I got
yFne4BM666U-00226-00046616-00046864 from it yeah and absolutely when you
yFne4BM666U-00227-00046865-00047002 mentioned in the competition this is
yFne4BM666U-00228-00047003-00047170 where you know Google has you know a
yFne4BM666U-00229-00047171-00047419 strong position in machine learning
yFne4BM666U-00230-00047420-00047749 Amazon you know Microsoft also pushing
yFne4BM666U-00231-00047750-00048094 there so it is still early days in
yFne4BM666U-00232-00048095-00048355 machine learning and while amazon has
yFne4BM666U-00233-00048356-00048604 you know an undisputed lead an overall
yFne4BM666U-00234-00048605-00048802 cloud machine learning is one of those
yFne4BM666U-00235-00048803-00049018 areas where everybody's starting from
yFne4BM666U-00236-00049019-00049213 kind of that you know the starting point
yFne4BM666U-00237-00049214-00049429 and amazon's brought in a lot of really
yFne4BM666U-00238-00049430-00049598 good people they've got a lot of people
yFne4BM666U-00239-00049599-00049735 working on teams and building out new
yFne4BM666U-00240-00049736-00049924 services the one that was announced at
yFne4BM666U-00241-00049925-00050080 the end of the keynote is Amazon Macy
yFne4BM666U-00242-00050081-00050368 who saw which is really around you know
yFne4BM666U-00243-00050369-00050776 my my sensitive data in a global context
yFne4BM666U-00244-00050777-00050926 using machine learning to understand
yFne4BM666U-00245-00050927-00051112 when something's being used when it
yFne4BM666U-00246-00051113-00051154 shouldn't
yFne4BM666U-00247-00051155-00051355 on things like that like you know I was
yFne4BM666U-00248-00051356-00051538 buying my family some subway tickets and
yFne4BM666U-00249-00051539-00051754 you know you could only buy two Metro
yFne4BM666U-00250-00051755-00051962 cards with one credit card because it
yFne4BM666U-00251-00051963-00052129 was you know even when if I put in all
yFne4BM666U-00252-00052130-00052264 the data it was like now we're only
yFne4BM666U-00253-00052265-00052436 gonna let you buy two because you know
yFne4BM666U-00254-00052437-00052571 if somebody got your credit card they
yFne4BM666U-00255-00052572-00052703 could probably get that and do that so
yFne4BM666U-00256-00052704-00052882 that's the kind of things that you're
yFne4BM666U-00257-00052883-00053123 trying to act fast with data no matter
yFne4BM666U-00258-00053124-00053416 where you are because you know malicious
yFne4BM666U-00259-00053417-00053771 people and hackers you know data is you
yFne4BM666U-00260-00053772-00053924 know the new oil as we said it's
yFne4BM666U-00261-00053925-00054104 something that we need to watch and you
yFne4BM666U-00262-00054104-00054362 know be able to manage even better so
yFne4BM666U-00263-00054363-00054566 you know Amazon keeps adding tools and
yFne4BM666U-00264-00054566-00054856 services to allow us to use our data
yFne4BM666U-00265-00054857-00055091 protect our data and harness the value
yFne4BM666U-00266-00055091-00055363 of data I've really said you know data
yFne4BM666U-00267-00055364-00055482 is the new flywheel
yFne4BM666U-00268-00055483-00055804 for you know technology going forward
yFne4BM666U-00269-00055805-00055991 Amazon for years talked about the
yFne4BM666U-00270-00055991-00056182 flywheels of customers they add new
yFne4BM666U-00271-00056183-00056341 services more customers come on board
yFne4BM666U-00272-00056342-00056624 they drive new services and now data is
yFne4BM666U-00273-00056625-00056765 really that next flywheel that's going
yFne4BM666U-00274-00056766-00056960 to drive that next you know a bunch of
yFne4BM666U-00275-00056961-00057169 years of innovation we've talked a lot
yFne4BM666U-00276-00057170-00057280 about announcements that we've just
yFne4BM666U-00277-00057281-00057473 heard better in the keynote big
yFne4BM666U-00278-00057474-00057718 announcement fairly recently about the
yFne4BM666U-00279-00057719-00057904 cloud native computing foundation right
yFne4BM666U-00280-00057905-00058190 so all of a sudden you know they've been
yFne4BM666U-00281-00058191-00058391 not not I'd say that not giving the
yFne4BM666U-00282-00058391-00058628 heisman if you will to kubernetes but
yFne4BM666U-00283-00058629-00058849 but maybe not embracing it right fair
yFne4BM666U-00284-00058850-00059137 enough to say different story now all of
yFne4BM666U-00285-00059138-00059366 a sudden you know they're platinum-level
yFne4BM666U-00286-00059366-00059566 on the board they have a voice on how
yFne4BM666U-00287-00059567-00059692 kubernetes is going to be rolled out
yFne4BM666U-00288-00059693-00059816 going forward I guess maybe out
yFne4BM666U-00289-00059816-00060035 kubernetes it'll be working with with
yFne4BM666U-00290-00060036-00060400 AWS going forward yeah well and my
yFne4BM666U-00291-00060401-00060613 comment I gave a quote to Silicon angle
yFne4BM666U-00292-00060614-00060775 or you know I'm in the analyst side the
yFne4BM666U-00293-00060776-00061061 media side had had written an article
yFne4BM666U-00294-00061062-00061346 and I said it's a good step I saw a
yFne4BM666U-00295-00061347-00061588 great headline that was like Amazon
yFne4BM666U-00296-00061589-00061712 gives you know three hundred and fifty
yFne4BM666U-00297-00061713-00061849 thousand dollars and so they're at least
yFne4BM666U-00298-00061850-00062056 you know contributing with a financial
yFne4BM666U-00299-00062057-00062297 piece but when you dig in and read that
yFne4BM666U-00300-00062298-00062449 there's a medium blog post written by
yFne4BM666U-00301-00062450-00062540 Adrian Cockroft
yFne4BM666U-00302-00062541-00062755 he didn't touch on it at all in the
yFne4BM666U-00303-00062756-00062866 keynote this morning which I was a
yFne4BM666U-00304-00062867-00063157 little surprised about but what he said
yFne4BM666U-00305-00063158-00063410 is you know we're contributing were
yFne4BM666U-00306-00063411-00063607 greatly involved and there's all of
yFne4BM666U-00307-00063608-00063749 these things that are happening in the
yFne4BM666U-00308-00063750-00064161 CNCs but Amazon has not said and here
yFne4BM666U-00309-00064162-00064442 our service to enable you know
yFne4BM666U-00310-00064444-00064635 kubernetes as a first class citizen in
yFne4BM666U-00311-00064636-00064899 there they have the AWS container
yFne4BM666U-00312-00064900-00065100 service which is ACS which doesn't use
yFne4BM666U-00313-00065101-00065421 kubernetes until this recent news I
yFne4BM666U-00314-00065422-00065643 could layer kubernetes on top and there
yFne4BM666U-00315-00065644-00065838 are a lot of offerings to do that what
yFne4BM666U-00316-00065839-00066030 I'd like to be able to hear is you know
yFne4BM666U-00317-00066031-00066216 what what services really Amazon going
yFne4BM666U-00318-00066217-00066447 to offer with that my expectation not
yFne4BM666U-00319-00066448-00066624 knowing any you know you know concrete
yFne4BM666U-00320-00066625-00066843 details is by the time we get to the the
yFne4BM666U-00321-00066844-00067059 Big Show in November they will have that
yFne4BM666U-00322-00067060-00067209 baked out more probably have some
yFne4BM666U-00323-00067210-00067413 announcements they're you know hoping
yFne4BM666U-00324-00067414-00067587 dad this show to be able to talk to some
yFne4BM666U-00325-00067588-00067728 people to really find out what's
yFne4BM666U-00326-00067729-00067953 happening inside really that kubernetes
yFne4BM666U-00327-00067954-00068196 piece because that helps not only with
yFne4BM666U-00328-00068197-00068643 really migrations if I have if I'm built
yFne4BM666U-00329-00068644-00068823 with kubernetes it's built with
yFne4BM666U-00330-00068824-00069101 containers containers are also the
yFne4BM666U-00331-00069102-00069312 underlying component when I'm doing
yFne4BM666U-00332-00069313-00069446 things like serverless
yFne4BM666U-00333-00069447-00069816 AWS lambda so if I can use kubernetes I
yFne4BM666U-00334-00069817-00070179 can build one way and do and use
yFne4BM666U-00335-00070180-00070341 multiple environment whether that be
yFne4BM666U-00336-00070342-00070629 public clouds or private clouds so how
yFne4BM666U-00337-00070630-00070794 much will Amazon embrace that how much
yFne4BM666U-00338-00070795-00070959 will they use this as well we're
yFne4BM666U-00339-00070960-00071160 enabling kubernetes so if you've got a
yFne4BM666U-00340-00071161-00071375 kubernetes solution you can now get into
yFne4BM666U-00341-00071376-00071688 another migration service to amazon or
yFne4BM666U-00342-00071689-00071886 will they open up a little bit more
yFne4BM666U-00343-00071887-00072084 we've really been watching them to see
yFne4BM666U-00344-00072085-00072321 as Amazon builds out their hybrid cloud
yFne4BM666U-00345-00072322-00072498 offering which says how do they get into
yFne4BM666U-00346-00072499-00072711 the customers data center because we've
yFne4BM666U-00347-00072712-00072930 seen that maturation of public cloud
yFne4BM666U-00348-00072931-00073143 only everything into the public cloud to
yFne4BM666U-00349-00073144-00073386 now lambda starts to reach out a little
yFne4BM666U-00350-00073387-00073593 bit with the green grass they've got
yFne4BM666U-00351-00073594-00073751 their snowballs they've got the
yFne4BM666U-00352-00073752-00073929 partnership with VMware which we expect
yFne4BM666U-00353-00073930-00074160 to hear lots more about at VMworld at
yFne4BM666U-00354-00074161-00074247 the end of this month
yFne4BM666U-00355-00074248-00074430 I've got partnerships with Red Hat and a
yFne4BM666U-00356-00074431-00074547 whole lot of other companies that
yFne4BM666U-00357-00074548-00074715 they're working at to really expanding
yFne4BM666U-00358-00074716-00074964 how they get the all of these wonderful
yFne4BM666U-00359-00074965-00075135 Amazon services that are in the public
yFne4BM666U-00360-00075136-00075318 cloud you know how do they reach there
yFne4BM666U-00361-00075319-00075457 into
yFne4BM666U-00362-00075458-00075618 the customers data centers themselves
yFne4BM666U-00363-00075619-00075905 and start leveraging those services all
yFne4BM666U-00364-00075906-00076069 of those three services today that are
yFne4BM666U-00365-00076070-00076267 getting added lots of companies would
yFne4BM666U-00366-00076268-00076472 want to get access to them well full
yFne4BM666U-00367-00076473-00076691 lineup of guests as always great lineup
yFne4BM666U-00368-00076692-00076898 of guests but before we we head out I
yFne4BM666U-00369-00076899-00077056 mean yeah just said you're with Wicca
yFne4BM666U-00370-00077057-00077218 bond you do great analysts work there
yFne4BM666U-00371-00077219-00077419 and you've got that inquiring mind right
yFne4BM666U-00372-00077420-00077534 you're a curious guy
yFne4BM666U-00373-00077535-00077719 what do you curious about today what do
yFne4BM666U-00374-00077720-00077885 you what do you kind of want to walk
yFne4BM666U-00375-00077886-00078086 away from here tonight learning a little
yFne4BM666U-00376-00078087-00078331 bit more about yeah so so as I mentioned
yFne4BM666U-00377-00078332-00078538 the whole kubernetes story absolutely is
yFne4BM666U-00378-00078539-00078823 what one that we want to hear about
yFne4BM666U-00379-00078824-00079091 going to talk to a lot of the partners
yFne4BM666U-00380-00079092-00079298 so we've seen a lot of the analytics
yFne4BM666U-00381-00079299-00079553 machine learning type solutions really
yFne4BM666U-00382-00079554-00079748 getting to the public tab so it's good
yFne4BM666U-00383-00079749-00079951 to get a pulse of really this ecosystem
yFne4BM666U-00384-00079952-00080254 because while Amazon is we said it's not
yFne4BM666U-00385-00080255-00080378 only the elephant in the room
yFne4BM666U-00386-00080379-00080623 Dave allanté you know the chief analyst
yFne4BM666U-00387-00080624-00080771 from wiki bun said there did the cheetah
yFne4BM666U-00388-00080772-00080990 they move really fast on they're really
yFne4BM666U-00389-00080991-00081278 nimble on Amazon not the easiest always
yFne4BM666U-00390-00081279-00081554 to partner with so you know how's the
yFne4BM666U-00391-00081555-00081797 how does the room feel how the customers
yFne4BM666U-00392-00081798-00082010 how are the partners how much are they
yFne4BM666U-00393-00082011-00082361 you know really in on AWS how many of
yFne4BM666U-00394-00082362-00082594 them are now multi cloud and I'm using
yFne4BM666U-00395-00082595-00082732 you know Google for some of the data
yFne4BM666U-00396-00082733-00082940 solutions and you know Microsoft apps
yFne4BM666U-00397-00082941-00083224 really have me involved so Amazon loves
yFne4BM666U-00398-00083225-00083465 to save people that are all in we had
yFne4BM666U-00399-00083466-00083792 one of the speakers that talked sockdoc
yFne4BM666U-00400-00083793-00084100 which was one that allows me to set
yFne4BM666U-00401-00084101-00084299 appointments with doctors much faster
yFne4BM666U-00402-00084300-00084511 using we all like analytics a rather
yFne4BM666U-00403-00084512-00084749 than 24 days you can do it 24 hours they
yFne4BM666U-00404-00084750-00085136 went from no AWS to fully 100% in on AWS
yFne4BM666U-00405-00085137-00085342 in less than 12 months so those are
yFne4BM666U-00406-00085343-00085543 really impressive ones but obviously
yFne4BM666U-00407-00085544-00085811 it's a technology centric company but
yFne4BM666U-00408-00085812-00085975 you know you see large companies FICO
yFne4BM666U-00409-00085976-00086123 was the other one up on stage actually
yFne4BM666U-00410-00086124-00086313 hoping to have FICO on the program today
yFne4BM666U-00411-00086314-00086707 that they are over a 60 year old company
yFne4BM666U-00412-00086708-00086857 so obviously they have a lot of legacy
yFne4BM666U-00413-00086858-00087142 and how AWS fits into their environment
yFne4BM666U-00414-00087143-00087307 I'd actually interview someone from FICO
yFne4BM666U-00415-00087308-00087461 a couple of years ago at an openstack
yFne4BM666U-00416-00087462-00087649 show talking about their embrace of
yFne4BM666U-00417-00087650-00087937 containers and containers allows them to
yFne4BM666U-00418-00087938-00088099 get you know into a public cloud a
yFne4BM666U-00419-00088100-00088255 little bit easier so I'd love to kind of
yFne4BM666U-00420-00088256-00088356 dig into those piece
yFne4BM666U-00421-00088357-00088497 so you know what's the pulse the
yFne4BM666U-00422-00088498-00088659 customers what's the pulse of the
yFne4BM666U-00423-00088660-00088974 partner ecosystem and you know are there
yFne4BM666U-00424-00088975-00089103 chinks in the armor you mentioned the
yFne4BM666U-00425-00089104-00089325 competitive piece they're usually when
yFne4BM666U-00426-00089326-00089481 you come to an Amazon Show it's all
yFne4BM666U-00427-00089482-00089745 Amazon all the time the number one gripe
yFne4BM666U-00428-00089746-00089994 usually is it's kind of pricing and
yFne4BM666U-00429-00089995-00090230 Amazon's made some moves that we were
yFne4BM666U-00430-00090231-00090462 did a bunch of interviews the week of
yFne4BM666U-00431-00090463-00090702 the Google next event talking about
yFne4BM666U-00432-00090703-00090963 Google cloud and there was a lot of kind
yFne4BM666U-00433-00090964-00091113 of a small-medium business that said
yFne4BM666U-00434-00091114-00091308 Google is priced better Google has a
yFne4BM666U-00435-00091309-00091527 clear advantage if I'm an SMB you know
yFne4BM666U-00436-00091528-00091725 you know I'm going away from Amazon the
yFne4BM666U-00437-00091726-00091881 week after the show Amazon changed their
yFne4BM666U-00438-00091882-00092043 pricing talk to some of the same people
yFne4BM666U-00439-00092044-00092229 and they're like yeah Amazon may open
yFne4BM666U-00440-00092230-00092387 that level the playing field so Amazon
yFne4BM666U-00441-00092388-00092724 listens and moves very fast so if
yFne4BM666U-00442-00092725-00092871 they're not the first to create an
yFne4BM666U-00443-00092872-00093042 offering they will spin something up
yFne4BM666U-00444-00093043-00093234 very fast they can readjust their
yFne4BM666U-00445-00093235-00093519 security their pricing to make sure that
yFne4BM666U-00446-00093520-00093663 they are listening to their customers
yFne4BM666U-00447-00093664-00093918 and meeting them not necessarily in
yFne4BM666U-00448-00093919-00094101 response to competitors but you know
yFne4BM666U-00449-00094102-00094278 getting what the customers need and
yFne4BM666U-00450-00094279-00094407 therefore if the customers were griping
yFne4BM666U-00451-00094408-00094542 a little bit about something that they
yFne4BM666U-00452-00094543-00094842 see that's interesting or a pain point
yFne4BM666U-00453-00094843-00095019 that they've had like we talked about
yFne4BM666U-00454-00095020-00095280 the AWS glue wasn't something that a
yFne4BM666U-00455-00095281-00095517 competitor had it was that you know this
yFne4BM666U-00456-00095518-00095715 is a pain point that they saw a lot of
yFne4BM666U-00457-00095716-00095931 time is on it and they are looking to
yFne4BM666U-00458-00095932-00096102 take that pain out one of the you know
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yFne4BM666U-00460-00096247-00096465 Amazon is they say you know your margin
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yFne4BM666U-00462-00096703-00096972 customer is our opportunity - so Amazon
yFne4BM666U-00463-00096973-00097167 always listening all right right on the
yFne4BM666U-00464-00097168-00097446 plate here this day we have for your AWS
yFne4BM666U-00465-00097447-00097644 summit we'll be back with much more as
yFne4BM666U-00466-00097645-00097845 we continue here on the cube at AWS
yFne4BM666U-00467-00097846-00098253 summit 2017 from New York City
yH9AdqxDQHE-00000-00000150-00000467 foreign
yH9AdqxDQHE-00001-00000468-00000655 distinguished Secretary General
yH9AdqxDQHE-00002-00000656-00000875 excellencies and delegates ladies and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00003-00000876-00001091 gentlemen it's my great honor and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00004-00001092-00001247 privilege to address you at this
yH9AdqxDQHE-00005-00001248-00001482 important IQ event today
yH9AdqxDQHE-00006-00001483-00001691 telecommunications are shaping the
yH9AdqxDQHE-00007-00001692-00001876 quality of Our Lives
yH9AdqxDQHE-00008-00001877-00002171 as a minister I'm happy to say that
yH9AdqxDQHE-00009-00002172-00002423 we're fostering in connectivity in
yH9AdqxDQHE-00010-00002424-00002795 Slovenia we advocate for Universal safe
yH9AdqxDQHE-00011-00002796-00003065 inclusive and affordable access to the
yH9AdqxDQHE-00012-00003066-00003293 internet for all
yH9AdqxDQHE-00013-00003294-00003490 in Slovenia we're giving particular
yH9AdqxDQHE-00014-00003492-00003797 attention to data to open data that
yH9AdqxDQHE-00015-00003797-00004097 ensure accessibility transparency and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00016-00004098-00004336 Trust in government as well as economic
yH9AdqxDQHE-00017-00004337-00004619 benefits for businesses by creating new
yH9AdqxDQHE-00018-00004620-00004835 Services products and business
yH9AdqxDQHE-00019-00004836-00004972 opportunities
yH9AdqxDQHE-00020-00004973-00005206 Slovenia is very successful in the field
yH9AdqxDQHE-00021-00005207-00005536 of public sector open data and is the
yH9AdqxDQHE-00022-00005537-00005735 first in the European Union by data
yH9AdqxDQHE-00023-00005736-00005861 maturity
yH9AdqxDQHE-00024-00005862-00006106 digital transformation is successful
yH9AdqxDQHE-00025-00006107-00006395 only when all members of the society are
yH9AdqxDQHE-00026-00006396-00006617 equally included and when no one is Left
yH9AdqxDQHE-00027-00006618-00006928 Behind at the global level my country is
yH9AdqxDQHE-00028-00006929-00007151 particularly concerned about the gender
yH9AdqxDQHE-00029-00007152-00007456 rural urban and age digital divide
yH9AdqxDQHE-00030-00007458-00007739 women although representing half of the
yH9AdqxDQHE-00031-00007740-00007992 world population are significantly
yH9AdqxDQHE-00032-00007993-00008357 underrepresented in almost all areas of
yH9AdqxDQHE-00033-00008358-00008563 ICT education employment
yH9AdqxDQHE-00034-00008564-00008778 entrepreneurship and Leadership
yH9AdqxDQHE-00035-00008779-00009028 empowering women with digital skills
yH9AdqxDQHE-00036-00009029-00009239 enables them to fully and meaningfully
yH9AdqxDQHE-00037-00009240-00009592 participate in democracy education and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00038-00009593-00009851 business in the Digital Society
yH9AdqxDQHE-00039-00009852-00010109 as a woman in technology myself I'm
yH9AdqxDQHE-00040-00010110-00010289 particularly interested in mentorship
yH9AdqxDQHE-00041-00010290-00010523 and peer-to-peer encouragement and I
yH9AdqxDQHE-00042-00010524-00010721 would like to apply to the itus
yH9AdqxDQHE-00043-00010722-00010949 initiatives in this regard including
yH9AdqxDQHE-00044-00010950-00011110 network of women
yH9AdqxDQHE-00045-00011111-00011356 digitally Empower generation equality
yH9AdqxDQHE-00046-00011357-00011609 was at the center of the it original for
yH9AdqxDQHE-00047-00011610-00011885 for Europe on meaningful connectivity
yH9AdqxDQHE-00048-00011886-00012221 that Slovenia co-hosted last year as the
yH9AdqxDQHE-00049-00012222-00012424 world marks the U.N decade of healthy
yH9AdqxDQHE-00050-00012425-00012653 aging I strongly welcomed the world's
yH9AdqxDQHE-00051-00012654-00012946 Summit on Information Society Forum 2022
yH9AdqxDQHE-00052-00012947-00013241 a special track on ict's and older
yH9AdqxDQHE-00053-00013241-00013355 persons
yH9AdqxDQHE-00054-00013356-00013547 when it comes to Safety and Security
yH9AdqxDQHE-00055-00013547-00013843 Slovenia Believes In a reasonable human
yH9AdqxDQHE-00056-00013844-00014075 rights-based approach to development
yH9AdqxDQHE-00057-00014076-00014279 deployment and use of digital
yH9AdqxDQHE-00058-00014280-00014399 Technologies
yH9AdqxDQHE-00059-00014400-00014663 by applying legal and ethical Frameworks
yH9AdqxDQHE-00060-00014663-00014861 we must make sure that digital
yH9AdqxDQHE-00061-00014862-00015079 Technologies can further consolidate
yH9AdqxDQHE-00062-00015080-00015365 legitimate Democratic processes not
yH9AdqxDQHE-00063-00015366-00015547 infringe them
yH9AdqxDQHE-00064-00015547-00015772 multi-stakeholder International efforts
yH9AdqxDQHE-00065-00015773-00015941 are needed to raise awareness and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00066-00015941-00016186 Empower everyone especially children
yH9AdqxDQHE-00067-00016187-00016499 about online risks and prevent and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00068-00016500-00016733 counter cyber bullying and hate speech
yH9AdqxDQHE-00069-00016734-00016830 online
yH9AdqxDQHE-00070-00016831-00017105 I would like to tackle the twinning of
yH9AdqxDQHE-00071-00017106-00017327 green and digital transformations of our
yH9AdqxDQHE-00072-00017328-00017680 societies I believe they go hand in hand
yH9AdqxDQHE-00073-00017681-00017915 please let me share an excellent example
yH9AdqxDQHE-00074-00017916-00018244 from my hometown maribor with you a new
yH9AdqxDQHE-00075-00018245-00018443 data center constructed from the river
yH9AdqxDQHE-00076-00018444-00018694 sediments will be built on an island in
yH9AdqxDQHE-00077-00018695-00018958 the middle of river drava the flow of
yH9AdqxDQHE-00078-00018959-00019139 the water will be used for the cooling
yH9AdqxDQHE-00079-00019140-00019372 of the data center and the waste heat
yH9AdqxDQHE-00080-00019373-00019630 energy will heat residential buildings
yH9AdqxDQHE-00081-00019631-00019811 in the surroundings
yH9AdqxDQHE-00082-00019812-00020039 ladies and gentlemen a Slovenia
yH9AdqxDQHE-00083-00020040-00020267 celebrates 30th anniversary of its
yH9AdqxDQHE-00084-00020268-00020549 membership in the itu this year we have
yH9AdqxDQHE-00085-00020550-00020753 come a long way to connect our citizens
yH9AdqxDQHE-00086-00020754-00020914 and to develop a resilient and
yH9AdqxDQHE-00087-00020915-00021191 inclusified City ecosystem We Stand
yH9AdqxDQHE-00088-00021192-00021413 ready to share our knowledge and best
yH9AdqxDQHE-00089-00021414-00021647 practices to bridge the digital divide
yH9AdqxDQHE-00090-00021648-00021844 in the framework or itu
yH9AdqxDQHE-00091-00021845-00022085 I would like to reference once more to
yH9AdqxDQHE-00092-00022086-00022361 Mr Tryon West quote shared by Minister a
yH9AdqxDQHE-00093-00022362-00022672 minister buduja yesterday we work not
yH9AdqxDQHE-00094-00022673-00022925 for our own Glory but the glory of the
yH9AdqxDQHE-00095-00022926-00023181 humankind thank you
yH9AdqxDQHE-00096-00023182-00023813 [Applause]
yKplQzfDjNy-00000-00000183-00000438 so my sister has this business i'm gonna
yKplQzfDjNy-00001-00000440-00000599 put air quotes around it because it's
yKplQzfDjNy-00002-00000600-00000831 this service that she does for free for
yKplQzfDjNy-00003-00000832-00001039 her friends and neighbors and i'm hoping
yKplQzfDjNy-00004-00001040-00001295 she does it for jack in three years but
yKplQzfDjNy-00005-00001296-00001543 basically she's an expert at helping
yKplQzfDjNy-00006-00001544-00001814 kids get into college with the research
yKplQzfDjNy-00007-00001816-00001975 and understanding everything that's
yKplQzfDjNy-00008-00001976-00002167 possible for them and understanding how
yKplQzfDjNy-00009-00002168-00002423 to do it in a way that's on their path
yKplQzfDjNy-00010-00002424-00002591 not a cookie cutter way it's an amazing
yKplQzfDjNy-00011-00002592-00002742 service that she does and so she and i
yKplQzfDjNy-00012-00002743-00002879 were playing around because i was like
yKplQzfDjNy-00013-00002880-00003095 this could be a business this should be
yKplQzfDjNy-00014-00003096-00003254 a business we should be you should be
yKplQzfDjNy-00015-00003255-00003406 charging money for this amazing thing
yKplQzfDjNy-00016-00003407-00003535 that you do and she's like yeah but i
yKplQzfDjNy-00017-00003536-00003743 hate marketing and i hear that a lot
yKplQzfDjNy-00018-00003744-00003870 from people i don't want to market
yKplQzfDjNy-00019-00003871-00004047 myself and i was like well marketing is
yKplQzfDjNy-00020-00004047-00004254 my jam i like marketing i like creating
yKplQzfDjNy-00021-00004255-00004543 content so we kind of spent
yKplQzfDjNy-00022-00004544-00004767 like a day plotting and planning and
yKplQzfDjNy-00023-00004768-00004959 imagining what it would be like to work
yKplQzfDjNy-00024-00004960-00005175 together and then i just had this kind
yKplQzfDjNy-00025-00005176-00005463 of epiphany hit me that you know i have
yKplQzfDjNy-00026-00005464-00005718 spent so many years understanding my
yKplQzfDjNy-00027-00005719-00005943 audience and getting into the content
yKplQzfDjNy-00028-00005944-00006047 creation
yKplQzfDjNy-00029-00006048-00006247 lane of my audience and really
yKplQzfDjNy-00030-00006248-00006375 understanding everything about my
yKplQzfDjNy-00031-00006376-00006687 audience that to learn a new audience
yKplQzfDjNy-00032-00006688-00006878 takes a lot of time now i already know
yKplQzfDjNy-00033-00006879-00007159 this and to learn a new audience it does
yKplQzfDjNy-00034-00007159-00007295 take time it does take energy and
yKplQzfDjNy-00035-00007295-00007478 actually i have a tool i will put in the
yKplQzfDjNy-00036-00007479-00007670 comments for you afterwards so you can
yKplQzfDjNy-00037-00007672-00007910 know your audience even better but i it
yKplQzfDjNy-00038-00007911-00008110 just occurred to me
yKplQzfDjNy-00039-00008111-00008191 that
yKplQzfDjNy-00040-00008192-00008399 knowing your audience is an incredibly
yKplQzfDjNy-00041-00008400-00008719 deep dive like putting on scuba gear
yKplQzfDjNy-00042-00008720-00009095 deep dive and we get taught this kind of
yKplQzfDjNy-00043-00009096-00009399 bs about knowing our audience like know
yKplQzfDjNy-00044-00009400-00009614 their age know where they like to do
yKplQzfDjNy-00045-00009615-00009751 yoga know what they like to do on a
yKplQzfDjNy-00046-00009752-00009910 sunday afternoon it's all this
yKplQzfDjNy-00047-00009911-00010142 surfacy demographic stuff but it doesn't
yKplQzfDjNy-00048-00010143-00010287 actually
yKplQzfDjNy-00049-00010288-00010606 help us understand our audiences now
yKplQzfDjNy-00050-00010607-00010751 after i was thinking about like oh my
yKplQzfDjNy-00051-00010752-00010951 god she actually has two audiences right
yKplQzfDjNy-00052-00010952-00011135 because she has to speak to parents and
yKplQzfDjNy-00053-00011136-00011351 she has to speak to the kids too and
yKplQzfDjNy-00054-00011352-00011510 that's a double prong so it's there's a
yKplQzfDjNy-00055-00011511-00011783 lot to know there so i wanted to come on
yKplQzfDjNy-00056-00011784-00012063 today and talk about how do you get to
yKplQzfDjNy-00057-00012064-00012399 know your audience really really deeply
yKplQzfDjNy-00058-00012400-00012759 and how do you do it in a way in 2022
yKplQzfDjNy-00059-00012760-00012927 because you might be
yKplQzfDjNy-00060-00012928-00013183 you might have done this work before
yKplQzfDjNy-00061-00013184-00013391 but in 2022 your audience is different
yKplQzfDjNy-00062-00013391-00013686 like you can't be using 2020 or 2019
yKplQzfDjNy-00063-00013687-00013838 information to try to connect with your
yKplQzfDjNy-00064-00013840-00013983 audience today things have shifted for
yKplQzfDjNy-00065-00013984-00014183 your audience so i'm going to ask you
yKplQzfDjNy-00066-00014184-00014399 three things to help you know your
yKplQzfDjNy-00067-00014400-00014679 audience more deeply and
yKplQzfDjNy-00068-00014680-00014855 make marketing a hell of a lot easier
yKplQzfDjNy-00069-00014856-00014999 for you so the first thing that you want
yKplQzfDjNy-00070-00015000-00015191 to make sure you know about your
yKplQzfDjNy-00071-00015191-00015511 audience is who exactly is that right
yKplQzfDjNy-00072-00015512-00015775 person in your audience again i am not
yKplQzfDjNy-00073-00015776-00015999 talking about demographics the first
yKplQzfDjNy-00074-00016000-00016127 thing you want to do to know your
yKplQzfDjNy-00075-00016128-00016350 audience really well is know whose butts
yKplQzfDjNy-00076-00016351-00016583 are in the seats and so i'm asking you
yKplQzfDjNy-00077-00016584-00016839 to think about how you would describe
yKplQzfDjNy-00078-00016840-00017063 the people in your audience not you know
yKplQzfDjNy-00079-00017064-00017471 um new moms aged 28 to 37 who work from
yKplQzfDjNy-00080-00017472-00017671 home i don't mean that i mean how would
yKplQzfDjNy-00081-00017672-00017886 you describe these people the problem
yKplQzfDjNy-00082-00017887-00018030 that they're having the solution that
yKplQzfDjNy-00083-00018031-00018327 they're looking for the experience that
yKplQzfDjNy-00084-00018328-00018591 they are having how they're showing up
yKplQzfDjNy-00085-00018592-00018855 in the world the qualities of them this
yKplQzfDjNy-00086-00018856-00019183 is a lot harder than people think it is
yKplQzfDjNy-00087-00019184-00019358 and they kind of gloss over like oh yeah
yKplQzfDjNy-00088-00019359-00019558 i just serve i just serve new moms who
yKplQzfDjNy-00089-00019559-00019750 want to lose weight that is not going to
yKplQzfDjNy-00090-00019751-00019935 be a demographic that you can create
yKplQzfDjNy-00091-00019936-00020199 content easily for and have it land with
yKplQzfDjNy-00092-00020200-00020399 your audience so that's the first thing
yKplQzfDjNy-00093-00020400-00020622 who is the exact right person in your
yKplQzfDjNy-00094-00020623-00020903 audience in terms of a descriptor so
yKplQzfDjNy-00095-00020904-00021055 that you can start to create messaging
yKplQzfDjNy-00096-00021056-00021230 for that person and market to them so
yKplQzfDjNy-00097-00021231-00021375 that they're like oh my god she's
yKplQzfDjNy-00098-00021376-00021543 holding up a mirror to me she totally
yKplQzfDjNy-00099-00021544-00021927 gets me she's describing me she knows me
yKplQzfDjNy-00100-00021928-00022078 secondly
yKplQzfDjNy-00101-00022079-00022327 in order to make marketing easier and
yKplQzfDjNy-00102-00022328-00022558 really deeply know your audience what
yKplQzfDjNy-00103-00022559-00022911 are the words they are using to describe
yKplQzfDjNy-00104-00022912-00023111 their problem now these are not the
yKplQzfDjNy-00105-00023112-00023278 words that you're probably using because
yKplQzfDjNy-00106-00023279-00023503 you might be using jargon or industry
yKplQzfDjNy-00107-00023504-00023694 language in fact the other day i was
yKplQzfDjNy-00108-00023695-00023894 talking to a coach and she was using all
yKplQzfDjNy-00109-00023895-00024094 coach language from her training because
yKplQzfDjNy-00110-00024095-00024278 she's surrounded by coaches all the time
yKplQzfDjNy-00111-00024279-00024422 this is what happens to us when we're
yKplQzfDjNy-00112-00024423-00024599 experts we get into our container we're
yKplQzfDjNy-00113-00024600-00024767 surrounded by people just like us and we
yKplQzfDjNy-00114-00024768-00024975 forget that the people who are outside
yKplQzfDjNy-00115-00024976-00025175 of our container don't speak our
yKplQzfDjNy-00116-00025176-00025383 language so what are the words that you
yKplQzfDjNy-00117-00025384-00025606 can connect with with your audience that
yKplQzfDjNy-00118-00025607-00025927 are not your words but are their words
yKplQzfDjNy-00119-00025927-00026167 the solutions that they are looking for
yKplQzfDjNy-00120-00026168-00026327 not the solutions that you want to give
yKplQzfDjNy-00121-00026327-00026479 them or you're telling them what they
yKplQzfDjNy-00122-00026480-00026670 need what do they
yKplQzfDjNy-00123-00026672-00026870 want so that is the second thing you
yKplQzfDjNy-00124-00026872-00027014 want to do to make sure that your
yKplQzfDjNy-00125-00027016-00027358 audience is dialed in to exactly who you
yKplQzfDjNy-00126-00027360-00027543 need to be speaking to
yKplQzfDjNy-00127-00027544-00027735 the third thing that will make marketing
yKplQzfDjNy-00128-00027736-00028023 easier and will make your audience
yKplQzfDjNy-00129-00028024-00028318 connect more with you is to understand
yKplQzfDjNy-00130-00028319-00028431 why
yKplQzfDjNy-00131-00028432-00028662 having a solution matters to them
yKplQzfDjNy-00132-00028663-00028831 if you're not talking about the ripple
yKplQzfDjNy-00133-00028832-00029135 effects of why this is going to be
yKplQzfDjNy-00134-00029136-00029270 better for them
yKplQzfDjNy-00135-00029272-00029455 then it's something that is missing in
yKplQzfDjNy-00136-00029456-00029623 your content for example i could say oh
yKplQzfDjNy-00137-00029624-00029839 like make your content creation easier
yKplQzfDjNy-00138-00029839-00030039 but why why does it matter to make your
yKplQzfDjNy-00139-00030039-00030255 content creation easier it matters
yKplQzfDjNy-00140-00030256-00030446 because if you don't do content you're
yKplQzfDjNy-00141-00030447-00030631 not doing your marketing you're not
yKplQzfDjNy-00142-00030632-00030807 connecting with the outside world and
yKplQzfDjNy-00143-00030808-00030974 people don't know you have a business
yKplQzfDjNy-00144-00030975-00031183 marketing is a necessity however you
yKplQzfDjNy-00145-00031183-00031462 want to do it but you do have to do it
yKplQzfDjNy-00146-00031463-00031639 you get to do it in your way but it does
yKplQzfDjNy-00147-00031639-00031895 need to get done the ripple effect is
yKplQzfDjNy-00148-00031895-00032046 when you market your business you grow
yKplQzfDjNy-00149-00032047-00032183 your business you make more money you
yKplQzfDjNy-00150-00032183-00032367 have more time you have more energy to
yKplQzfDjNy-00151-00032368-00032527 do the things you love doing you have
yKplQzfDjNy-00152-00032527-00032711 more freedom all of those things matter
yKplQzfDjNy-00153-00032712-00032974 to my people what matters to your people
yKplQzfDjNy-00154-00032975-00033287 why do they want their solution
yKplQzfDjNy-00155-00033288-00033471 or their problem solved why is your
yKplQzfDjNy-00156-00033472-00033662 solution important until you start
yKplQzfDjNy-00157-00033663-00033935 talking about that in your content then
yKplQzfDjNy-00158-00033936-00034111 it's just going to kind of land flat or
yKplQzfDjNy-00159-00034112-00034239 just lay there
yKplQzfDjNy-00160-00034240-00034487 those are the three things that most
yKplQzfDjNy-00161-00034488-00034815 people are not doing when it comes to
yKplQzfDjNy-00162-00034816-00035071 making marketing easier and putting out
yKplQzfDjNy-00163-00035072-00035246 content that their audience can actually
yKplQzfDjNy-00164-00035247-00035407 connect with what might you be doing you
yKplQzfDjNy-00165-00035408-00035639 might be putting out how-to content or
yKplQzfDjNy-00166-00035640-00035830 um you know content that speaks a
yKplQzfDjNy-00167-00035831-00035943 different language than what your
yKplQzfDjNy-00168-00035944-00036118 audience speaks but i want you to think
yKplQzfDjNy-00169-00036119-00036423 about how can i make marketing easier by
yKplQzfDjNy-00170-00036424-00036735 knowing my audience so deeply that my
yKplQzfDjNy-00171-00036736-00036967 words constantly resonate with them and
yKplQzfDjNy-00172-00036968-00037190 mirror back to them what they need to
yKplQzfDjNy-00173-00037191-00037295 hear
yKplQzfDjNy-00174-00037296-00037543 and believe in themselves so they can
yKplQzfDjNy-00175-00037544-00037687 get the solution that they're looking
yKplQzfDjNy-00176-00037688-00037879 for now how do you do this i've actually
yKplQzfDjNy-00177-00037880-00038215 got um i've got a whole thing for you
yKplQzfDjNy-00178-00038216-00038311 it's a whole
yKplQzfDjNy-00179-00038312-00038462 guide it's got
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yKplQzfDjNy-00182-00038880-00039087 just a freebie that i have and it is a
yKplQzfDjNy-00183-00039088-00039295 game changer it's what i make all of my
yKplQzfDjNy-00184-00039296-00039543 clients do before we get started cause
yKplQzfDjNy-00185-00039544-00039679 mostly i meet people and they don't know
yKplQzfDjNy-00186-00039680-00039855 who their audience is it's not just you
yKplQzfDjNy-00187-00039856-00040079 i promise i'm gonna put that below but i
yKplQzfDjNy-00188-00040080-00040215 want you to start thinking about how can
yKplQzfDjNy-00189-00040216-00040399 i know my audience deep deeper this is
yKplQzfDjNy-00190-00040400-00040662 job one if you've even been in business
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yKplQzfDjNy-00196-00041744-00042007 2020 or 2019. i hope this was helpful
yKplQzfDjNy-00197-00042008-00042158 let me know your questions about your
yKplQzfDjNy-00198-00042159-00042311 audience i'm happy to help you if you
yKplQzfDjNy-00199-00042312-00042523 just tag me bye
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yPB74kx3JIY-00000-00000283-00000567 the idea of this talk is is is to share
yPB74kx3JIY-00001-00000568-00000820 with you the the effort that went into
yPB74kx3JIY-00002-00000821-00001303 moving the sidebar and make it available
yPB74kx3JIY-00003-00001304-00001746 in calabria online and on the web and
yPB74kx3JIY-00004-00001747-00001929 specifically I want to make this
yPB74kx3JIY-00005-00001930-00002333 interesting to the technical minded
yPB74kx3JIY-00006-00002334-00002757 amongst us and I hope that everybody in
yPB74kx3JIY-00007-00002758-00002904 that I share a little bit of the
yPB74kx3JIY-00008-00002905-00003159 technical challenges there so this is
yPB74kx3JIY-00009-00003160-00003375 this is the overview of my talk it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00010-00003376-00003681 it's not an extremely long or detailed
yPB74kx3JIY-00011-00003682-00003972 talk so so hopefully there's going to be
yPB74kx3JIY-00012-00003972-00004152 something for everybody and we have time
yPB74kx3JIY-00013-00004153-00004335 for questions I'm gonna skip
yPB74kx3JIY-00014-00004336-00004527 introductions I'm guessing most people
yPB74kx3JIY-00015-00004528-00004734 know me by now and if that's not the
yPB74kx3JIY-00016-00004735-00005118 case just approached me approached me
yPB74kx3JIY-00017-00005119-00005487 after after the talk is this better this
yPB74kx3JIY-00018-00005488-00005751 is better okay if it's not just let me
yPB74kx3JIY-00019-00005752-00006084 know just approached me if if you don't
yPB74kx3JIY-00020-00006085-00006288 know me and introduce yourself I'll be
yPB74kx3JIY-00021-00006289-00006713 happy to talk to you we'll take a quick
yPB74kx3JIY-00022-00006714-00006912 look at what really is the sidebar and
yPB74kx3JIY-00023-00006913-00007145 why we need it quickly just to make sure
yPB74kx3JIY-00024-00007146-00007442 we're all all on the same page and then
yPB74kx3JIY-00025-00007443-00007556 we'll talk a little bit about the
yPB74kx3JIY-00026-00007557-00007739 challenges why is this even something to
yPB74kx3JIY-00027-00007740-00007908 talk about right I mean you would think
yPB74kx3JIY-00028-00007909-00008169 it's it's there it's working we have all
yPB74kx3JIY-00029-00008170-00008391 the functionality implemented how hard
yPB74kx3JIY-00030-00008392-00008453 can it be
yPB74kx3JIY-00031-00008454-00008935 and those are usually famous last words
yPB74kx3JIY-00032-00008936-00009305 the idea is that I don't want to give
yPB74kx3JIY-00033-00009306-00009512 you just a superficial taste of things
yPB74kx3JIY-00034-00009513-00009651 but I also want to talk a little bit
yPB74kx3JIY-00035-00009652-00009923 about some of the technical details so
yPB74kx3JIY-00036-00009924-00010349 know what is what is a sidebar this is a
yPB74kx3JIY-00037-00010350-00010567 sidebar that we see it on the desktop
yPB74kx3JIY-00038-00010568-00010826 it's it's typically on the right side
yPB74kx3JIY-00039-00010827-00011123 it's docked and nice and you get to
yPB74kx3JIY-00040-00011124-00011320 undock it if you want and move it around
yPB74kx3JIY-00041-00011321-00011716 it has all the context-sensitive
yPB74kx3JIY-00042-00011717-00012164 properties that you would need depending
yPB74kx3JIY-00043-00012165-00012308 on what you're doing so if you're if
yPB74kx3JIY-00044-00012309-00012560 you're typing a bit of text and you want
yPB74kx3JIY-00045-00012561-00012713 a quick way to change the font size
yPB74kx3JIY-00046-00012714-00013097 there it is it sits right on the sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00047-00013097-00013488 change your color if you select an image
yPB74kx3JIY-00048-00013488-00013590 maybe
yPB74kx3JIY-00049-00013591-00013713 you would get slightly different
yPB74kx3JIY-00050-00013713-00013938 properties and so it's it's actually you
yPB74kx3JIY-00051-00013938-00014136 know moving with you so that whenever
yPB74kx3JIY-00052-00014137-00014466 you need to make any adjustments it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00053-00014466-00014715 accessible and it's always where you
yPB74kx3JIY-00054-00014716-00014966 need them to be so much much better than
yPB74kx3JIY-00055-00014968-00015324 menus and this this would be our end
yPB74kx3JIY-00056-00015325-00015563 product right this is this is what what
yPB74kx3JIY-00057-00015565-00015801 we're trying to do we're trying to bring
yPB74kx3JIY-00058-00015802-00016260 the same functionality hopefully in a
yPB74kx3JIY-00059-00016261-00016803 slightly refined UI elements on the web
yPB74kx3JIY-00060-00016804-00017010 and and here you can see that we have
yPB74kx3JIY-00061-00017011-00017214 two two different cases this is this is
yPB74kx3JIY-00062-00017215-00017466 calc right and this is right here
yPB74kx3JIY-00063-00017467-00017790 you see them both of them are working in
yPB74kx3JIY-00064-00017791-00018000 the same way except that you you do get
yPB74kx3JIY-00065-00018001-00018306 a different context because here we have
yPB74kx3JIY-00066-00018307-00018576 the graph selected right so you get area
yPB74kx3JIY-00067-00018577-00018912 and shadow whereas over there it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00068-00018913-00019152 clearly some text where the cursor is
yPB74kx3JIY-00069-00019153-00019386 because you get text style and character
yPB74kx3JIY-00070-00019387-00019797 properties and spacing as your context
yPB74kx3JIY-00071-00019798-00020400 okay so this this effort is is is not
yPB74kx3JIY-00072-00020401-00020660 trivial right and and we always have to
yPB74kx3JIY-00073-00020661-00020916 take a moment and remember that it
yPB74kx3JIY-00074-00020917-00021207 wouldn't happen automatically and it
yPB74kx3JIY-00075-00021208-00021600 takes a lot of partnership and funding
yPB74kx3JIY-00076-00021601-00021840 to make this happen so thank you to our
yPB74kx3JIY-00077-00021841-00022338 partners there so really how hard is it
yPB74kx3JIY-00078-00022339-00022683 to bring this kind of interface and
yPB74kx3JIY-00079-00022684-00022965 functionality and make it work
yPB74kx3JIY-00080-00022966-00023235 on the web you would think you have the
yPB74kx3JIY-00081-00023236-00023544 same kind of you know environment as on
yPB74kx3JIY-00082-00023545-00023850 the desktop you have a an application
yPB74kx3JIY-00083-00023851-00024122 that that renders UI elements for you
yPB74kx3JIY-00084-00024123-00024453 you have mouse and keyboard input right
yPB74kx3JIY-00085-00024454-00024747 and so you have you have pretty much the
yPB74kx3JIY-00086-00024748-00024969 foundation but in fact what really
yPB74kx3JIY-00087-00024970-00025194 happens is is that the similarities end
yPB74kx3JIY-00088-00025195-00025509 very quickly much sooner than you'd have
yPB74kx3JIY-00089-00025510-00025752 liked them to so for example the sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00090-00025752-00026007 is very much like a dialog right like a
yPB74kx3JIY-00091-00026008-00026175 pop-up dialog you would get when you're
yPB74kx3JIY-00092-00026176-00026511 you go into the menu paragraph right you
yPB74kx3JIY-00093-00026512-00026724 get this dialog nice tabs and and
yPB74kx3JIY-00094-00026725-00026918 whatnot so you know
yPB74kx3JIY-00095-00026919-00027239 this is reasonable thing to to use the
yPB74kx3JIY-00096-00027239-00027473 dialogue infrastructure that we already
yPB74kx3JIY-00097-00027474-00027806 had in calabria online working to build
yPB74kx3JIY-00098-00027807-00028070 essentially the cyber functionality
yPB74kx3JIY-00099-00028070-00028585 however it's not quite like a dialogue
yPB74kx3JIY-00100-00028586-00028910 the sidebar in that it is it is not
yPB74kx3JIY-00101-00028911-00029231 really something you are bring up to the
yPB74kx3JIY-00102-00029232-00029492 front changes setting and then dismiss
yPB74kx3JIY-00103-00029493-00029780 it you actually want it to be around and
yPB74kx3JIY-00104-00029781-00030110 you want it to be updated automatically
yPB74kx3JIY-00105-00030111-00030455 based on the context like you expect on
yPB74kx3JIY-00106-00030456-00030911 the desktop but also on the desktop it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00107-00030912-00031283 docked so you get it you know flexibly
yPB74kx3JIY-00108-00031283-00031472 resize based on the height of your
yPB74kx3JIY-00109-00031473-00031745 window and so on so you would want that
yPB74kx3JIY-00110-00031745-00031931 kind of behavior as well so you don't
yPB74kx3JIY-00111-00031932-00032218 want something extremely rigid either
yPB74kx3JIY-00112-00032219-00032972 and unlike the the the unlike the
yPB74kx3JIY-00113-00032973-00033302 dialogues the sidebar needs to push your
yPB74kx3JIY-00114-00033303-00033542 content out of the way right in a way
yPB74kx3JIY-00115-00033543-00033698 that you're what you're actually doing
yPB74kx3JIY-00116-00033699-00033881 is you're not covering the content
yPB74kx3JIY-00117-00033882-00034076 because now you have the sidebar rather
yPB74kx3JIY-00118-00034077-00034424 you're resizing the content to make it
yPB74kx3JIY-00119-00034425-00034709 shrink because you want to maintain the
yPB74kx3JIY-00120-00034710-00034976 same view right as you had but now
yPB74kx3JIY-00121-00034977-00035189 slightly smaller to accommodate for the
yPB74kx3JIY-00122-00035190-00035432 real estate that the sidebar is going to
yPB74kx3JIY-00123-00035433-00035648 take so there is a little you know a bit
yPB74kx3JIY-00124-00035649-00035945 of you know differences there and then a
yPB74kx3JIY-00125-00035946-00036275 bit of challenge so I wanna take a small
yPB74kx3JIY-00126-00036276-00036700 step back and people who have missed the
yPB74kx3JIY-00127-00036701-00036953 presentations in the past years on the
yPB74kx3JIY-00128-00036954-00037253 dialogue tunneling work so again we make
yPB74kx3JIY-00129-00037254-00037451 sure that we're on a similar footing
yPB74kx3JIY-00130-00037452-00037763 here what really happens under the hood
yPB74kx3JIY-00131-00037764-00038168 is that when you have a dialog pop-up
yPB74kx3JIY-00132-00038169-00038587 really what is happening is we have
yPB74kx3JIY-00133-00038588-00038918 infrastructure we built this API where
yPB74kx3JIY-00134-00038919-00039263 what we do is we figure out oh we are
yPB74kx3JIY-00135-00039264-00039569 actually running this whole show online
yPB74kx3JIY-00136-00039570-00039876 on the web and so we need to know
yPB74kx3JIY-00137-00039877-00040170 all that a new window has been created
yPB74kx3JIY-00138-00040171-00040361 and then that the window has been
yPB74kx3JIY-00139-00040362-00040640 resized and then that the there is an
yPB74kx3JIY-00140-00040641-00040824 update in the UI so we need to
yPB74kx3JIY-00141-00040825-00041127 invalidate certain areas and then order
yPB74kx3JIY-00142-00041128-00041411 the mouse actually is moving right so if
yPB74kx3JIY-00143-00041412-00041742 that changes the rendering of the UI you
yPB74kx3JIY-00144-00041743-00041958 also want to update that so there is a
yPB74kx3JIY-00145-00041959-00042330 whole plumbing going on even with the
yPB74kx3JIY-00146-00042331-00042521 mouse movement let alone when you type
yPB74kx3JIY-00147-00042522-00042812 or when you click all of these events go
yPB74kx3JIY-00148-00042813-00043233 back to the core and then we have new
yPB74kx3JIY-00149-00043234-00043652 events generated to notify the web that
yPB74kx3JIY-00150-00043653-00043926 well you know things change what you
yPB74kx3JIY-00151-00043927-00044162 want to do now and then the JavaScript
yPB74kx3JIY-00152-00044163-00044349 port would come in and say oh why don't
yPB74kx3JIY-00153-00044350-00044589 you render this area because I hear
yPB74kx3JIY-00154-00044590-00044768 you've invalidated the last one and I
yPB74kx3JIY-00155-00044769-00044976 got the you know the old version so just
yPB74kx3JIY-00156-00044977-00045201 give me the latest one and so that's
yPB74kx3JIY-00157-00045202-00045570 what happens we render whatever area
yPB74kx3JIY-00158-00045571-00045780 that that is being requested as a PNG
yPB74kx3JIY-00159-00045781-00046268 image and we send that along to the
yPB74kx3JIY-00160-00046269-00046470 browser and then the browser will know
yPB74kx3JIY-00161-00046471-00046770 where to a make sure that is rendered in
yPB74kx3JIY-00162-00046771-00047070 the UI and everything works nice and
yPB74kx3JIY-00163-00047071-00047255 smooth and you don't even notice that
yPB74kx3JIY-00164-00047256-00047501 you're actually dealing with images all
yPB74kx3JIY-00165-00047502-00048026 the time now having said that the
yPB74kx3JIY-00166-00048027-00048329 dialogue is really a very close relative
yPB74kx3JIY-00167-00048330-00048618 to the sidebar it means we can't
yPB74kx3JIY-00168-00048619-00048795 actually reuse it but we have to be
yPB74kx3JIY-00169-00048796-00049058 careful so one of the things we want to
yPB74kx3JIY-00170-00049059-00049271 do is we want to differentiate between
yPB74kx3JIY-00171-00049272-00049545 creating a sidebar which you can only
yPB74kx3JIY-00172-00049546-00049929 create one all right so if there is more
yPB74kx3JIY-00173-00049930-00050217 than one sidebar creation that is
yPB74kx3JIY-00174-00050218-00050412 happening it just means that you are
yPB74kx3JIY-00175-00050413-00050627 replacing the previous one right unlike
yPB74kx3JIY-00176-00050628-00050771 dialogues dialogues you can have
yPB74kx3JIY-00177-00050772-00051089 multiple ones on the on the screen but
yPB74kx3JIY-00178-00051090-00051261 the sidebar you really want to have one
yPB74kx3JIY-00179-00051262-00051423 this just doesn't make any sense to have
yPB74kx3JIY-00180-00051424-00051701 multiple ones and that is not supported
yPB74kx3JIY-00181-00051702-00052110 in in core anyway so we do track that we
yPB74kx3JIY-00182-00052111-00052346 have a new type that tells you this is
yPB74kx3JIY-00183-00052347-00052592 not a dialogue really and you will see
yPB74kx3JIY-00184-00052594-00052824 that we have a third type as well I'll
yPB74kx3JIY-00185-00052825-00053103 get to that so we have one for sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00186-00053104-00053175 and the one
yPB74kx3JIY-00187-00053176-00053417 for dialogues in general and we
yPB74kx3JIY-00188-00053419-00053694 remembered this fact and we track
yPB74kx3JIY-00189-00053695-00053883 sidebar separately from dialogue so you
yPB74kx3JIY-00190-00053884-00054057 can dismiss dialogues you can't dismiss
yPB74kx3JIY-00191-00054058-00054372 sideboards simply by do by going around
yPB74kx3JIY-00192-00054373-00054566 you know editing your document you
yPB74kx3JIY-00193-00054567-00054948 actually need to from the menu save you
yPB74kx3JIY-00194-00054949-00055188 and then you click on sidebar and it
yPB74kx3JIY-00195-00055189-00055407 toggles if it was hidden you see it if
yPB74kx3JIY-00196-00055408-00055689 it was visible you hide it that's that's
yPB74kx3JIY-00197-00055690-00055977 how you react to this you know deal with
yPB74kx3JIY-00198-00055978-00056394 the sidebar as I mentioned we need it
yPB74kx3JIY-00199-00056395-00056642 talked and that means we need to push
yPB74kx3JIY-00200-00056644-00056913 around the contents so again this is a
yPB74kx3JIY-00201-00056914-00057078 bit of special handling where we say oh
yPB74kx3JIY-00202-00057079-00057416 now we're showing the sidebar it is a
yPB74kx3JIY-00203-00057417-00057680 special kind of a dialogue where we move
yPB74kx3JIY-00204-00057682-00057951 around the HTML elements such that we
yPB74kx3JIY-00205-00057952-00058304 make room for our sidebar and we push
yPB74kx3JIY-00206-00058305-00058505 everything out of the way so that there
yPB74kx3JIY-00207-00058507-00058764 is no overlap between them and then we
yPB74kx3JIY-00208-00058765-00058962 need to revert this process where when
yPB74kx3JIY-00209-00058963-00059192 we hide the sidebar you want to bring
yPB74kx3JIY-00210-00059194-00059469 everything back to 100% and your content
yPB74kx3JIY-00211-00059470-00060228 takes the whole available real estate to
yPB74kx3JIY-00212-00060229-00060489 support resizing automatically we had to
yPB74kx3JIY-00213-00060490-00060714 add a bit of an API to support that
yPB74kx3JIY-00214-00060715-00061044 functionality where in the browser when
yPB74kx3JIY-00215-00061045-00061353 we noticed that the the HTML elements
yPB74kx3JIY-00216-00061354-00061662 where we embed the sidebar got their
yPB74kx3JIY-00217-00061663-00061953 dimensions change we also need to let
yPB74kx3JIY-00218-00061954-00062342 cor know that the sidebar now has a
yPB74kx3JIY-00219-00062344-00062760 different height the width for now is
yPB74kx3JIY-00220-00062761-00062954 fixed but it is supported you can
yPB74kx3JIY-00221-00062955-00063222 actually change it but we don't have
yPB74kx3JIY-00222-00063223-00063467 that implemented in the UI so the user
yPB74kx3JIY-00223-00063469-00063679 is unable to change it
yPB74kx3JIY-00224-00063680-00063915 butBut but the height is automatically
yPB74kx3JIY-00225-00063916-00064104 resized and now and I'll talk a little
yPB74kx3JIY-00226-00064104-00064347 bit more about that because it's it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00227-00064348-00064512 quite interesting the challenges we have
yPB74kx3JIY-00228-00064513-00064851 there so this is roughly how you break
yPB74kx3JIY-00229-00064852-00065163 down the sidebar this is obviously
yPB74kx3JIY-00230-00065164-00065457 floating it's it's not docked so it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00231-00065458-00065892 undocked and it's it has multiple
yPB74kx3JIY-00232-00065893-00066273 sections in reality what is really
yPB74kx3JIY-00233-00066274-00066486 interesting here is that this this whole
yPB74kx3JIY-00234-00066487-00066879 red area that's the sideboard docking
yPB74kx3JIY-00235-00066880-00067059 window in court that's that's how it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00236-00067060-00067509 identified and within it you have the
yPB74kx3JIY-00237-00067510-00067836 panels in the UI level right and the
yPB74kx3JIY-00238-00067837-00068016 panels are the ones that that you can
yPB74kx3JIY-00239-00068017-00068211 collapse with the arrow like style
yPB74kx3JIY-00240-00068212-00068478 character and paragraph right and these
yPB74kx3JIY-00241-00068479-00068856 are essentially flexible in their in
yPB74kx3JIY-00242-00068857-00069036 their dimensions so when you collapse
yPB74kx3JIY-00243-00069037-00069326 them they only take the heading size in
yPB74kx3JIY-00244-00069327-00069603 in space otherwise you can expand them
yPB74kx3JIY-00245-00069604-00069801 and you can scroll around this is on
yPB74kx3JIY-00246-00069802-00070041 desktop you can you can notice that you
yPB74kx3JIY-00247-00070042-00070410 can't undock in the browser and you see
yPB74kx3JIY-00248-00070411-00070686 if it's if it takes more height then you
yPB74kx3JIY-00249-00070687-00070923 have in your main floating window
yPB74kx3JIY-00250-00070924-00071157 there's a there's a scroll bar nice and
yPB74kx3JIY-00251-00071158-00071442 neat this is a nightmare I'll come to
yPB74kx3JIY-00252-00071443-00071784 later you can see that in the code
yPB74kx3JIY-00253-00071785-00072048 actually it's for those who are
yPB74kx3JIY-00254-00072049-00072255 interested in mapping this to the code
yPB74kx3JIY-00255-00072256-00072453 there is actually a hierarchy so the
yPB74kx3JIY-00256-00072454-00072701 docking window has a controller and the
yPB74kx3JIY-00257-00072702-00072879 controller has decks
yPB74kx3JIY-00258-00072880-00073232 and each deck is essentially one of
yPB74kx3JIY-00259-00073233-00073593 those icons on the side so you can
yPB74kx3JIY-00260-00073594-00073788 switch between the properties and
yPB74kx3JIY-00261-00073789-00074049 gallery and the other ones and that
yPB74kx3JIY-00262-00074050-00074310 switches the decks and every deck has a
yPB74kx3JIY-00263-00074311-00074706 number of panels in it right and you
yPB74kx3JIY-00264-00074707-00074931 also have the tab bar which is that blue
yPB74kx3JIY-00265-00074932-00075276 block that's that's the side tab bar so
yPB74kx3JIY-00266-00075277-00075753 the tab or we really don't need in the
yPB74kx3JIY-00267-00075754-00076132 browser instead we have those icons as
yPB74kx3JIY-00268-00076133-00076419 toolbar icons and you can you can switch
yPB74kx3JIY-00269-00076420-00076557 from the toolbar
yPB74kx3JIY-00270-00076558-00076878 primarily because there is not that much
yPB74kx3JIY-00271-00076879-00077130 real estate and we need to be a little
yPB74kx3JIY-00272-00077131-00077309 bit conservative
yPB74kx3JIY-00273-00077310-00077868 just as a side point the the parent of
yPB74kx3JIY-00274-00077869-00078141 the docking window is called sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00275-00078142-00078794 child window just an interesting trick
yPB74kx3JIY-00276-00078795-00079134 of mind to leave you know that lead
yPB74kx3JIY-00277-00079135-00079548 people astray essentially and waste a
yPB74kx3JIY-00278-00079549-00080003 bunch of time so
yPB74kx3JIY-00279-00080004-00080526 this is the the interesting challenge or
yPB74kx3JIY-00280-00080527-00080685 one of the challenges that you get when
yPB74kx3JIY-00281-00080686-00081132 you're trying to move a UI element like
yPB74kx3JIY-00282-00081133-00081797 a dialog to the web which part of that
yPB74kx3JIY-00283-00081798-00082398 UI control or window or in this case the
yPB74kx3JIY-00284-00082399-00082761 the dockable floating window that you
yPB74kx3JIY-00285-00082762-00083067 want to render online that's the real
yPB74kx3JIY-00286-00083068-00083369 question right and as you saw you have
yPB74kx3JIY-00287-00083370-00083784 you have this docking window inside it
yPB74kx3JIY-00288-00083785-00084153 you have decks and every deck has its
yPB74kx3JIY-00289-00084154-00084510 own panels and so what how do you want
yPB74kx3JIY-00290-00084511-00084707 this rendering process to happen you
yPB74kx3JIY-00291-00084708-00084942 really want to render everything and
yPB74kx3JIY-00292-00084943-00085191 lose control over which deck is now
yPB74kx3JIY-00293-00085192-00085407 visible or you wanna maybe render the
yPB74kx3JIY-00294-00085408-00085617 panels separately then you can arrange
yPB74kx3JIY-00295-00085618-00085779 them how you want and you have more
yPB74kx3JIY-00296-00085780-00086073 control what is the right answer and so
yPB74kx3JIY-00297-00086074-00086256 one of the first things we tried is we
yPB74kx3JIY-00298-00086257-00086488 tried rendering the decks so every deck
yPB74kx3JIY-00299-00086489-00086951 gets its own plumbing and tunneling to
yPB74kx3JIY-00300-00086952-00087315 the hood to the JavaScript that didn't
yPB74kx3JIY-00301-00087316-00087606 really work out very well and you might
yPB74kx3JIY-00302-00087607-00087810 guess why that happened and in hindsight
yPB74kx3JIY-00303-00087811-00088116 it makes sense the problem there is that
yPB74kx3JIY-00304-00088117-00088362 the decks really are not created and
yPB74kx3JIY-00305-00088363-00088605 destroyed and that's what we want to
yPB74kx3JIY-00306-00088606-00088881 track we want to track the lifetime of
yPB74kx3JIY-00307-00088882-00089231 the dialog but in in this sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00308-00089232-00089513 what's happening is you show a deck and
yPB74kx3JIY-00309-00089514-00089694 then you hide the deck and then you show
yPB74kx3JIY-00310-00089695-00089871 the other deck and you hide the deck and
yPB74kx3JIY-00311-00089872-00090188 so you need to track this in in the
yPB74kx3JIY-00312-00090189-00090396 JavaScript which is just as a nightmare
yPB74kx3JIY-00313-00090397-00090626 it doesn't make sense so we said okay
yPB74kx3JIY-00314-00090627-00090896 let's actually move one level higher and
yPB74kx3JIY-00315-00090897-00091215 render the parent that has the decks in
yPB74kx3JIY-00316-00091216-00091376 it and that's the docking window and
yPB74kx3JIY-00317-00091377-00091604 that's what we did next
yPB74kx3JIY-00318-00091605-00091872 incidentally what that meant ultimately
yPB74kx3JIY-00319-00091873-00092288 is that the type to identify the sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00320-00092289-00092619 is now called deck so you get tighter
yPB74kx3JIY-00321-00092620-00092862 you create a window of type dialog
yPB74kx3JIY-00322-00092863-00093137 that's all the dialogues and you create
yPB74kx3JIY-00323-00093138-00093441 window that has type Dec and that is the
yPB74kx3JIY-00324-00093442-00093710 sidebar that's an artifact that it just
yPB74kx3JIY-00325-00093711-00094178 just stayed there a bit a bit more
yPB74kx3JIY-00326-00094179-00094598 details as I mentioned we need to resize
yPB74kx3JIY-00327-00094599-00094904 the sidebar and we need to resize it in
yPB74kx3JIY-00328-00094905-00095054 a very special way
yPB74kx3JIY-00329-00095055-00095241 only when the browser is resizing so
yPB74kx3JIY-00330-00095242-00095610 really we can't leave the sidebar docked
yPB74kx3JIY-00331-00095611-00095978 in core so liberal office course starts
yPB74kx3JIY-00332-00095979-00096299 sidebar in the docked state so the first
yPB74kx3JIY-00333-00096300-00096530 thing we do is we figure out okay now
yPB74kx3JIY-00334-00096531-00096851 this is this is not the desktop and so
yPB74kx3JIY-00335-00096852-00097025 we need to have full control over the
yPB74kx3JIY-00336-00097026-00097272 dimensions of the sidebar so we make it
yPB74kx3JIY-00337-00097273-00097469 floating right all of this is invisible
yPB74kx3JIY-00338-00097470-00097673 in the background right so it is
yPB74kx3JIY-00339-00097674-00097826 floating so we can control its
yPB74kx3JIY-00340-00097827-00098048 dimensions however we want right there
yPB74kx3JIY-00341-00098049-00098222 is no limitation because it's not part
yPB74kx3JIY-00342-00098223-00098516 of the frame next we implement the API
yPB74kx3JIY-00343-00098517-00098813 to control its size so we can do this
yPB74kx3JIY-00344-00098814-00099113 programmatically however we want next we
yPB74kx3JIY-00345-00099114-00099335 say we don't want the tab bar right that
yPB74kx3JIY-00346-00099336-00099922 is useless for us and we just have the
yPB74kx3JIY-00347-00099923-00100223 toolbar entries for all the decks that
yPB74kx3JIY-00348-00100224-00100553 we are interested in and we are not
yPB74kx3JIY-00349-00100554-00100832 interested in the gallery for example in
yPB74kx3JIY-00350-00100833-00101028 navigation those are not implemented at
yPB74kx3JIY-00351-00101029-00101360 the moment so those are not there and we
yPB74kx3JIY-00352-00101361-00101705 don't need to worry about them and we
yPB74kx3JIY-00353-00101706-00102119 make sure that we maximize the height of
yPB74kx3JIY-00354-00102120-00102396 the sidebar so that we can render
yPB74kx3JIY-00355-00102397-00102624 everything nice and neat and this is one
yPB74kx3JIY-00356-00102625-00102764 of the technical challenges I'm going to
yPB74kx3JIY-00357-00102765-00103221 get to in a bit but first let's deal
yPB74kx3JIY-00358-00103222-00103572 with another problem which is pop-ups
yPB74kx3JIY-00359-00103573-00103913 this this is you can see I clicked on
yPB74kx3JIY-00360-00103914-00104407 the color button and that brings up the
yPB74kx3JIY-00361-00104408-00104687 I'm not sure what the name of this one
yPB74kx3JIY-00362-00104688-00105101 is they I guess the color palette where
yPB74kx3JIY-00363-00105102-00105289 you can select the color of your text
yPB74kx3JIY-00364-00105290-00105638 and this is a pop-up it's exactly like a
yPB74kx3JIY-00365-00105639-00105933 context menu or for that matter it
yPB74kx3JIY-00366-00105933-00106127 drop-down lists like the list of the
yPB74kx3JIY-00367-00106128-00106356 phone names that you have over there
yPB74kx3JIY-00368-00106357-00106724 and that is a separate window right and
yPB74kx3JIY-00369-00106725-00106973 in the in the HTML what is happening is
yPB74kx3JIY-00370-00106974-00107309 you have your dialog or sidebar and
yPB74kx3JIY-00371-00107310-00107520 that's your parent and then you have a
yPB74kx3JIY-00372-00107521-00107801 child of that on the desktop it's the
yPB74kx3JIY-00373-00107802-00107987 same you have this relationship so if
yPB74kx3JIY-00374-00107988-00108369 you kill or the parent dies you your
yPB74kx3JIY-00375-00108370-00108554 child goes away as well so you don't
yPB74kx3JIY-00376-00108555-00108788 have a thing your window floating around
yPB74kx3JIY-00377-00108789-00109199 like that on its own so what we do is we
yPB74kx3JIY-00378-00109200-00109557 differentiate when we create a child
yPB74kx3JIY-00379-00109558-00109857 window from a dialog and from the
yPB74kx3JIY-00380-00109858-00110033 sidebar which is called the deck and
yPB74kx3JIY-00381-00110034-00110324 this one would be called child and the
yPB74kx3JIY-00382-00110325-00110597 child when it's created it says what is
yPB74kx3JIY-00383-00110598-00110844 the ID of its parent so in the
yPB74kx3JIY-00384-00110845-00111035 JavaScript we can track them nicely and
yPB74kx3JIY-00385-00111036-00111321 everything works just fine the only
yPB74kx3JIY-00386-00111322-00111596 difference is that the child goes away
yPB74kx3JIY-00387-00111597-00112097 when you move your cursor or you click
yPB74kx3JIY-00388-00112098-00112182 somewhere else
yPB74kx3JIY-00389-00112183-00112466 etc etc as you would expect so that's
yPB74kx3JIY-00390-00112467-00112833 that's fine now let's look at some of
yPB74kx3JIY-00391-00112833-00113027 the challenges this is this is where it
yPB74kx3JIY-00392-00113028-00113438 gets technical and interesting so one of
yPB74kx3JIY-00393-00113439-00113660 the interesting challenges is that you
yPB74kx3JIY-00394-00113661-00113900 don't have a nice sequence of events
yPB74kx3JIY-00395-00113901-00114122 this is a nightmare
yPB74kx3JIY-00396-00114123-00114437 you spend a lot of time trying to iron
yPB74kx3JIY-00397-00114438-00115079 out these seemingly anachronistic events
yPB74kx3JIY-00398-00115080-00115349 that you are getting from core so
yPB74kx3JIY-00399-00115350-00115547 normally what you would want is you
yPB74kx3JIY-00400-00115548-00115760 would want an announcement that a
yPB74kx3JIY-00401-00115761-00116089 dialogue or a sidebar has been created
yPB74kx3JIY-00402-00116090-00116399 updates based on the input events and
yPB74kx3JIY-00403-00116400-00116633 then that it is closed and everything is
yPB74kx3JIY-00404-00116634-00116948 is nice and fun but in reality that
yPB74kx3JIY-00405-00116949-00117134 doesn't happen what happens is you get
yPB74kx3JIY-00406-00117135-00117558 some create with often a bogus size and
yPB74kx3JIY-00407-00117558-00117788 this is the case for most dialogues so
yPB74kx3JIY-00408-00117789-00118138 you get a dimension that is 0 0 by 0 0
yPB74kx3JIY-00409-00118139-00118494 ok so I created a hidden window fine and
yPB74kx3JIY-00410-00118495-00118671 then you get an update for the size
yPB74kx3JIY-00411-00118672-00118920 right you get an event size changed and
yPB74kx3JIY-00412-00118921-00119087 you get now a new dimension so you go
yPB74kx3JIY-00413-00119088-00119307 alright great let's now create something
yPB74kx3JIY-00414-00119308-00119561 for the user to see and then oops
yPB74kx3JIY-00415-00119563-00119858 it changed again well I'm fine fine
yPB74kx3JIY-00416-00119859-00120126 we'll do that too but then you have user
yPB74kx3JIY-00417-00120127-00120288 experience problems right you get
yPB74kx3JIY-00418-00120289-00120608 flickers you get all this noise and
yPB74kx3JIY-00419-00120609-00120846 traffic on the network so you need to
yPB74kx3JIY-00420-00120847-00121184 iron these out so this makes it really
yPB74kx3JIY-00421-00121185-00121460 really much harder to manage things why
yPB74kx3JIY-00422-00121461-00121695 is this not a problem on the desktop you
yPB74kx3JIY-00423-00121696-00122004 should ask well because the desktop it's
yPB74kx3JIY-00424-00122005-00122205 much faster you don't have network you
yPB74kx3JIY-00425-00122206-00122439 don't have multiple languages JavaScript
yPB74kx3JIY-00426-00122440-00122751 you know it the user does not see this
yPB74kx3JIY-00427-00122752-00123033 right it happens so fast that it just is
yPB74kx3JIY-00428-00123033-00123300 irrelevant so one of the things that we
yPB74kx3JIY-00429-00123301-00123525 do for the sidebar is we tend to rely on
yPB74kx3JIY-00430-00123526-00123717 create because at creation time the
yPB74kx3JIY-00431-00123718-00123883 sidebar has no size and that is
yPB74kx3JIY-00432-00123884-00124325 completely useless instead what we do we
yPB74kx3JIY-00433-00124326-00124620 create the sidebar with the sensible
yPB74kx3JIY-00434-00124621-00124886 dimensions on the notification for the
yPB74kx3JIY-00435-00124888-00125202 resize which happens multiple times as
yPB74kx3JIY-00436-00125203-00125379 you would expect that creates another
yPB74kx3JIY-00437-00125380-00125679 nightmare that I will get to in in a
yPB74kx3JIY-00438-00125680-00125828 minute
yPB74kx3JIY-00439-00125829-00126116 another challenge is that the sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00440-00126117-00126357 will take the focus as you would expect
yPB74kx3JIY-00441-00126358-00126606 for input so when you open the sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00442-00126607-00126908 you would expect that the sidebar now is
yPB74kx3JIY-00443-00126909-00127296 active so anything I do will probably go
yPB74kx3JIY-00444-00127297-00127467 to the sidebar in terms of typing
yPB74kx3JIY-00445-00127468-00127773 something or even the mouse right that's
yPB74kx3JIY-00446-00127774-00128091 reasonable however this is a problem
yPB74kx3JIY-00447-00128092-00128244 because now the sidebar has the focus
yPB74kx3JIY-00448-00128245-00128424 and what you want to do is you want to
yPB74kx3JIY-00449-00128425-00128630 go back and type in your in your
yPB74kx3JIY-00450-00128631-00129035 document and this coordination between
yPB74kx3JIY-00451-00129036-00129410 two two can be tricky dialogues don't
yPB74kx3JIY-00452-00129411-00129558 have that problem because that you
yPB74kx3JIY-00453-00129558-00129831 dismiss them typically right but the
yPB74kx3JIY-00454-00129832-00130032 sidebar can actually still the focus
yPB74kx3JIY-00455-00130033-00130418 thinking that oh I just you know want to
yPB74kx3JIY-00456-00130419-00130749 have me in the foreground
yPB74kx3JIY-00457-00130750-00131055 so it starts essentially getting in the
yPB74kx3JIY-00458-00131056-00131265 way and then cause again use user
yPB74kx3JIY-00459-00131266-00131535 experience problem so we had to deal
yPB74kx3JIY-00460-00131536-00132187 with that and in a better way
yPB74kx3JIY-00461-00132188-00132704 often the broth is being a large piece
yPB74kx3JIY-00462-00132705-00133013 of software it throws at you curveballs
yPB74kx3JIY-00463-00133014-00133463 so one of the big ones that came our way
yPB74kx3JIY-00464-00133464-00133643 when we were working on this is that we
yPB74kx3JIY-00465-00133644-00133874 found out that the the initialization
yPB74kx3JIY-00466-00133875-00134132 sequence in impress is wildly different
yPB74kx3JIY-00467-00134133-00134507 than in calc and writer and this is the
yPB74kx3JIY-00468-00134508-00134900 kind of thing that you are hoping that
yPB74kx3JIY-00469-00134901-00135080 you would never have to deal with right
yPB74kx3JIY-00470-00135081-00135535 because I mean this is the worst kind of
yPB74kx3JIY-00471-00135536-00135755 discrimination in the code right you
yPB74kx3JIY-00472-00135756-00136043 need to actually worry about the context
yPB74kx3JIY-00473-00136044-00136283 of which type of document the user is
yPB74kx3JIY-00474-00136284-00136532 using you in your your in the sidebar
yPB74kx3JIY-00475-00136533-00137360 like well why and we'll see why so a bit
yPB74kx3JIY-00476-00137361-00137741 of background you can have multiple
yPB74kx3JIY-00477-00137742-00138095 users working on the same document at
yPB74kx3JIY-00478-00138096-00138254 the same time that's the whole idea of
yPB74kx3JIY-00479-00138255-00138479 having two app right otherwise just work
yPB74kx3JIY-00480-00138480-00138746 on your desktop and that means that each
yPB74kx3JIY-00481-00138747-00139124 user will get their own view in in the
yPB74kx3JIY-00482-00139125-00139337 code these are referenced by the view
yPB74kx3JIY-00483-00139338-00139700 shell and the frame view and every user
yPB74kx3JIY-00484-00139701-00139937 they have their own and everything is
yPB74kx3JIY-00485-00139938-00140180 nice and fine because one user can have
yPB74kx3JIY-00486-00140181-00140387 the sidebar visible the other one does
yPB74kx3JIY-00487-00140388-00140675 not right one user can be working in one
yPB74kx3JIY-00488-00140676-00140897 dialog the user isn't the other user is
yPB74kx3JIY-00489-00140898-00141170 working in another so you need this nice
yPB74kx3JIY-00490-00141171-00141386 segregation and so you need to track
yPB74kx3JIY-00491-00141387-00141908 every window based on the view that owns
yPB74kx3JIY-00492-00141909-00142243 it right so what happens when you have a
yPB74kx3JIY-00493-00142244-00142478 document with a sidebar everything is
yPB74kx3JIY-00494-00142479-00142667 nice and fine and you're you know you're
yPB74kx3JIY-00495-00142668-00142919 finishing your PhD and then you're I
yPB74kx3JIY-00496-00142920-00143354 don't know you're your supervisor logs
yPB74kx3JIY-00497-00143355-00143543 in and they open the same thing and now
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yPB74kx3JIY-00505-00145230-00145505 and everything is working nice and fun
yPB74kx3JIY-00506-00145506-00145802 this happens in calc and writer not an
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yPB74kx3JIY-00509-00146312-00146624 what happens is the sidebar is created
yPB74kx3JIY-00510-00146625-00146960 before the frame and the view shell is
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yPB74kx3JIY-00515-00148389-00148718 you will show the sidebar to the to the
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yPB74kx3JIY-00518-00149037-00149588 you see so we had to handle it
yPB74kx3JIY-00519-00149589-00149846 in a special way and I'm going to show
yPB74kx3JIY-00520-00149847-00150134 you this is this is how we handle it the
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yPB74kx3JIY-00535-00154455-00154976 you get this size notification on the
yPB74kx3JIY-00536-00154977-00155165 new one so you track the old one with
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yPB74kx3JIY-00538-00155331-00155516 compare it to the current one and if it
yPB74kx3JIY-00539-00155517-00155798 is changed you're like eh but what do
yPB74kx3JIY-00540-00155799-00155933 you do if you're the first one there is
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yPB74kx3JIY-00543-00156372-00156539 what what it's trying to do and there is
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yPB74kx3JIY-00547-00157716-00157916 scrollbar as I promised that I will
yPB74kx3JIY-00548-00157917-00158399 return to so normally when you say this
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yPB74kx3JIY-00550-00158694-00158879 expect things to just you know
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yPB74kx3JIY-00552-00159159-00159437 size you get the scrollbar but we don't
yPB74kx3JIY-00553-00159438-00159620 want that scrollbar because it's
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yPB74kx3JIY-00555-00159927-00160268 render multiple times whilst you're
yPB74kx3JIY-00556-00160269-00160562 doing this it's it's really horrible so
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yPB74kx3JIY-00563-00162006-00162071 right
yPB74kx3JIY-00564-00162072-00162344 so we render once the whole thing and
yPB74kx3JIY-00565-00162345-00162539 whenever there is an update we only need
yPB74kx3JIY-00566-00162540-00162749 to render that part of the sidebar and
yPB74kx3JIY-00567-00162750-00163034 we have the whole thing with us this
yPB74kx3JIY-00568-00163035-00163571 gets really really tricky because some
yPB74kx3JIY-00569-00163572-00163838 of these panels they don't have a
yPB74kx3JIY-00570-00163839-00164252 maximum size they just take as much
yPB74kx3JIY-00571-00164253-00164498 space as is left in your sidebar so you
yPB74kx3JIY-00572-00164499-00164552 tell it
yPB74kx3JIY-00573-00164553-00164897 I am 3000 pixels high and they would
yPB74kx3JIY-00574-00164898-00165218 yeah I need 3000 pixels and you say okay
yPB74kx3JIY-00575-00165219-00165446 I'm 5000 now they yeah yeah yeah I'm
yPB74kx3JIY-00576-00165447-00165728 5000 now and there is no way to control
yPB74kx3JIY-00577-00165729-00166040 them so it becomes a nightmare and what
yPB74kx3JIY-00578-00166041-00166292 happens is that you need to do a little
yPB74kx3JIY-00579-00166293-00166598 bit of hackery where you say if it's
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yPB74kx3JIY-00582-00167280-00167480 something and then scroll or whatever
yPB74kx3JIY-00583-00167481-00167972 hide the rest and so unfortunately this
yPB74kx3JIY-00584-00167973-00168283 this kind of behavior of never ending
yPB74kx3JIY-00585-00168284-00168806 you know height gives you a useless
yPB74kx3JIY-00586-00168807-00169145 sidebar like that in some cases that we
yPB74kx3JIY-00587-00169146-00169313 had to spend a lot of time trying to
yPB74kx3JIY-00588-00169314-00169514 fight it and and I'm fairly certain we
yPB74kx3JIY-00589-00169515-00169727 haven't found all the cases and this is
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yPB74kx3JIY-00598-00171621-00171826 this at least twice it's a two path
yPB74kx3JIY-00599-00171827-00172052 algorithm
yPB74kx3JIY-00600-00172053-00172364 it decides whether to show the scrollbar
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yPB74kx3JIY-00602-00172548-00172778 it and it's completely useless because
yPB74kx3JIY-00603-00172779-00172985 it you can only scroll it one pixel that
yPB74kx3JIY-00604-00172986-00173213 that's it right it's just there to annoy
yPB74kx3JIY-00605-00173214-00173552 you or the user right in this case so
yPB74kx3JIY-00606-00173553-00173846 this is this is one of the the the nasty
yPB74kx3JIY-00607-00173847-00174056 challenges that you don't really see on
yPB74kx3JIY-00608-00174057-00174329 the desktop but you get it here and the
yPB74kx3JIY-00609-00174330-00174524 reason is because we don't want the
yPB74kx3JIY-00610-00174525-00174791 scrolling to happen in the backend
yPB74kx3JIY-00611-00174792-00174986 rather we want it to happen in the
yPB74kx3JIY-00612-00174987-00175517 browser and with that thank you so much
yPB74kx3JIY-00613-00175518-00175999 [Applause]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00000-00000065-00000545 hello lovelies today is day three of my
yPSIKTAzUXg-00001-00000546-00000769 30 days of building series
yPSIKTAzUXg-00002-00000770-00001073 I am really in love with that pond over
yPSIKTAzUXg-00003-00001074-00001337 there at the moment but today we are
yPSIKTAzUXg-00004-00001338-00001535 actually going to be building a campsite
yPSIKTAzUXg-00005-00001536-00001913 on this little Hill that is overlooking
yPSIKTAzUXg-00006-00001914-00002123 the pond so
yPSIKTAzUXg-00007-00002124-00002339 that's good enough right I will be
yPSIKTAzUXg-00008-00002340-00002483 honest I've been thinking about this
yPSIKTAzUXg-00009-00002484-00002926 build quite a bit and I am actually very
yPSIKTAzUXg-00010-00002927-00003100 unsure
yPSIKTAzUXg-00011-00003101-00003281 as
yPSIKTAzUXg-00012-00003282-00003617 to what exactly I should be building
yPSIKTAzUXg-00013-00003618-00003886 this out of like wool is the obvious
yPSIKTAzUXg-00014-00003888-00004006 choice
yPSIKTAzUXg-00015-00004007-00004967 but it's so thick
yPSIKTAzUXg-00016-00004968-00005536 does that say tend to anybody
yPSIKTAzUXg-00017-00005537-00006344 no me either
yPSIKTAzUXg-00018-00006345-00007243 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00019-00007244-00007817 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00020-00007818-00008474 foreign
yPSIKTAzUXg-00021-00008475-00009062 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00022-00009063-00010260 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00023-00010261-00011674 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00024-00011675-00012089 foreign
yPSIKTAzUXg-00025-00012090-00013431 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00026-00013432-00014825 [Music]
yPSIKTAzUXg-00028-00018426-00018899 well as the sun sets behind us quite
yPSIKTAzUXg-00029-00018900-00019175 appropriate once again
yPSIKTAzUXg-00030-00019176-00019661 we can survey this little tiny very cute
yPSIKTAzUXg-00031-00019662-00019972 campsite
yPSIKTAzUXg-00032-00019973-00020321 we've got a lovely little campfire with
yPSIKTAzUXg-00033-00020322-00020591 a little cast iron skillet and a grill
yPSIKTAzUXg-00034-00020592-00020785 over the top
yPSIKTAzUXg-00035-00020786-00021127 and we've got
yPSIKTAzUXg-00036-00021128-00021593 marshmallows on a stick
yPSIKTAzUXg-00037-00021594-00021941 little rocks to sit on lots of very cute
yPSIKTAzUXg-00038-00021942-00022091 lighting
yPSIKTAzUXg-00039-00022092-00022589 and a cozy bed and bedroll right here in
yPSIKTAzUXg-00040-00022590-00022703 our tent
yPSIKTAzUXg-00041-00022704-00023053 and we can look out towards the town
yPSIKTAzUXg-00042-00023054-00023399 and we can pet our favorite little buddy
yPSIKTAzUXg-00043-00023400-00023663 who's sitting guard at the at the
yPSIKTAzUXg-00044-00023664-00024047 opening to our tent
yPSIKTAzUXg-00045-00024048-00024419 and my I add this campfire has the
yPSIKTAzUXg-00046-00024420-00024617 perfect view towards the beautiful Pond
yPSIKTAzUXg-00047-00024618-00024893 as The Moon Rises over it
yPSIKTAzUXg-00048-00024894-00025205 thanks for coming along for this build
yPSIKTAzUXg-00049-00025206-00025528 today it was super simple super easy
yPSIKTAzUXg-00050-00025529-00025720 and I still have to
yPSIKTAzUXg-00051-00025722-00025918 figure out some stuff with the tent that
yPSIKTAzUXg-00052-00025919-00025996 was
yPSIKTAzUXg-00053-00025997-00026231 it took a bit but we made it and it
yPSIKTAzUXg-00054-00026232-00026362 looks really cute
yPSIKTAzUXg-00055-00026363-00026896 and we will see you tomorrow for our
yPSIKTAzUXg-00056-00026897-00027077 next build which is going to be super
yPSIKTAzUXg-00057-00027077-00027370 super fun and I'm very excited for it so
yPSIKTAzUXg-00058-00027372-00027635 I will see you in tomorrow's video
yPSIKTAzUXg-00059-00027636-00027913 bye
yQRtTVewd9Q-00000-00000032-00000206 what simple plot hole ruined the whole
yQRtTVewd9Q-00001-00000208-00000543 movie for you
yQRtTVewd9Q-00002-00000544-00000743 how the heck did austin powers get that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00003-00000744-00000935 little truck completely sideways in that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00004-00000936-00001031 hallway
yQRtTVewd9Q-00005-00001032-00001247 he's an international man of mystery
yQRtTVewd9Q-00006-00001248-00001495 baby yeah
yQRtTVewd9Q-00007-00001496-00001855 you can leave the country the purge
yQRtTVewd9Q-00008-00001855-00002063 no one tries to do fraud during those
yQRtTVewd9Q-00009-00002064-00002310 hours what a waste of potential
yQRtTVewd9Q-00010-00002311-00002526 the sexual act apple stores down the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00011-00002527-00002710 street but all anyone wants to do is
yQRtTVewd9Q-00012-00002711-00002783 murder
yQRtTVewd9Q-00013-00002784-00003087 it's freaking stupid in pirates of the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00014-00003088-00003175 caribbean
yQRtTVewd9Q-00015-00003176-00003431 dead men tell no tales they explain that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00016-00003432-00003631 if you give away the magic compass
yQRtTVewd9Q-00017-00003632-00003911 it releases your worst fear jack's worst
yQRtTVewd9Q-00018-00003911-00004095 fear is salazar and his crew
yQRtTVewd9Q-00019-00004096-00004238 so they are freed from the devil's
yQRtTVewd9Q-00020-00004239-00004431 triangle when jack trades the compass
yQRtTVewd9Q-00021-00004432-00004519 for rum
yQRtTVewd9Q-00022-00004520-00004743 but jack willingly gave away the compass
yQRtTVewd9Q-00023-00004744-00004967 multiple times in the previous movies
yQRtTVewd9Q-00024-00004968-00005286 and salazar was not freed but to be fair
yQRtTVewd9Q-00025-00005287-00005479 the exact words were if you betray the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00026-00005480-00005670 compass and since jack plans out
yQRtTVewd9Q-00027-00005671-00005751 everything
yQRtTVewd9Q-00028-00005752-00005951 maybe in the previous movies he knew he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00029-00005952-00006118 would get the compass back
yQRtTVewd9Q-00030-00006119-00006470 in dmtnt he trades it away forever
yQRtTVewd9Q-00031-00006472-00006703 i don't understand why salazar was his
yQRtTVewd9Q-00032-00006704-00006814 greatest fear
yQRtTVewd9Q-00033-00006815-00007055 he smushed him back in the day easy and
yQRtTVewd9Q-00034-00007056-00007255 i imagine would have forgotten
yQRtTVewd9Q-00035-00007256-00007431 i figured his greatest fear would be
yQRtTVewd9Q-00036-00007431-00007606 life imprisonment or chronic sea
yQRtTVewd9Q-00037-00007608-00007806 sickness
yQRtTVewd9Q-00038-00007808-00008006 in the american ring movie the key plot
yQRtTVewd9Q-00039-00008008-00008174 point for the ghoul is that she's at the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00040-00008175-00008319 bottom of the well and the last thing
yQRtTVewd9Q-00041-00008320-00008487 she sees is a ring of light as they
yQRtTVewd9Q-00042-00008488-00008599 slide the covering over
yQRtTVewd9Q-00043-00008600-00008878 the top the well top is thick brick the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00044-00008879-00009063 round wooden cover is larger than the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00045-00009064-00009174 hole obviously
yQRtTVewd9Q-00046-00009175-00009335 or it would fall down and be a terrible
yQRtTVewd9Q-00047-00009336-00009591 well lid they clearly slide the lid over
yQRtTVewd9Q-00048-00009592-00009678 the well
yQRtTVewd9Q-00049-00009679-00009878 it should have been called the crescent
yQRtTVewd9Q-00050-00009879-00010127 i couldn't get over it the whole movie
yQRtTVewd9Q-00051-00010128-00010351 yes this oh my goodness no one cares
yQRtTVewd9Q-00052-00010352-00010542 when i explain this
yQRtTVewd9Q-00053-00010543-00010783 somehow palpatine has returned it
yQRtTVewd9Q-00054-00010784-00010967 doesn't even have to be a plot hole so
yQRtTVewd9Q-00055-00010968-00011174 long as you spend more than 30 seconds
yQRtTVewd9Q-00056-00011175-00011278 setting it up
yQRtTVewd9Q-00057-00011279-00011471 why not have snoke call palpi in the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00058-00011472-00011687 first one or make a statement like
yQRtTVewd9Q-00059-00011688-00011838 everyone has a master
yQRtTVewd9Q-00060-00011839-00012110 where did that fleet come from imperial
yQRtTVewd9Q-00061-00012111-00012183 cult
yQRtTVewd9Q-00062-00012184-00012383 those guys were on the death star how
yQRtTVewd9Q-00063-00012384-00012503 did they get off
yQRtTVewd9Q-00064-00012504-00012735 why am i not told any of this seems like
yQRtTVewd9Q-00065-00012736-00012855 it would have been a way y
yQRtTVewd9Q-00066-00012856-00013086 e cooler story to see the last remaining
yQRtTVewd9Q-00067-00013087-00013303 moths fleeing into wild space
yQRtTVewd9Q-00068-00013304-00013511 kinda like nazis fleeing to everywhere
yQRtTVewd9Q-00069-00013512-00013727 while the allies hunt them down
yQRtTVewd9Q-00070-00013728-00013983 these movies make me mad not because of
yQRtTVewd9Q-00071-00013984-00014151 whatever angle they're pushing
yQRtTVewd9Q-00072-00014152-00014358 but because they had so many good ideas
yQRtTVewd9Q-00073-00014359-00014527 that they threw in with a pile of poop
yQRtTVewd9Q-00074-00014528-00014886 then got mad at you for saying it smells
yQRtTVewd9Q-00075-00014887-00015103 dust storms of destructive magnitudes
yQRtTVewd9Q-00076-00015104-00015230 can't happen on mars
yQRtTVewd9Q-00077-00015231-00015447 but matt damon can still play one heck
yQRtTVewd9Q-00078-00015447-00015599 of a botanist andy weir
yQRtTVewd9Q-00079-00015600-00015838 the martian's author repeatedly said he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00080-00015840-00016030 knew that a windstorm of that intensity
yQRtTVewd9Q-00081-00016031-00016215 couldn't happen on mars
yQRtTVewd9Q-00082-00016216-00016383 but just couldn't think of any other way
yQRtTVewd9Q-00083-00016384-00016575 of getting the rest of the team off mars
yQRtTVewd9Q-00084-00016576-00016767 while leaving marquadnie behind but
yQRtTVewd9Q-00085-00016768-00016855 still alive
yQRtTVewd9Q-00086-00016856-00017127 it's a widely acknowledged plot hole i'm
yQRtTVewd9Q-00087-00017128-00017311 sure there are many other nasa space
yQRtTVewd9Q-00088-00017312-00017511 engineers who good examples can probably
yQRtTVewd9Q-00089-00017512-00017703 be found across the internet but as plot
yQRtTVewd9Q-00090-00017704-00018014 holes go it's not the worst
yQRtTVewd9Q-00091-00018015-00018271 move raiders map fred and george saw a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00092-00018272-00018463 peter pettigrew sleeping with ron every
yQRtTVewd9Q-00093-00018464-00018599 night on the map
yQRtTVewd9Q-00094-00018600-00018791 heck the twins never said a word but
yQRtTVewd9Q-00095-00018792-00018950 they knew who he was
yQRtTVewd9Q-00096-00018951-00019150 good on fred and george for not bullying
yQRtTVewd9Q-00097-00019151-00019319 ron when they would see him sleeping in
yQRtTVewd9Q-00098-00019320-00019535 bed with some guy named peter pettigrew
yQRtTVewd9Q-00099-00019536-00019630 on the map
yQRtTVewd9Q-00100-00019631-00019807 they could have been total penises about
yQRtTVewd9Q-00101-00019808-00020007 it
yQRtTVewd9Q-00102-00020008-00020207 bruce wayne being completely broke in a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00103-00020208-00020391 dark night rises because his share
yQRtTVewd9Q-00104-00020392-00020591 trading was allowed to stand despite the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00105-00020592-00020775 fact that there was a terrorist attack
yQRtTVewd9Q-00106-00020776-00020950 on the stock exchange
yQRtTVewd9Q-00107-00020951-00021199 also the richest man in the city has his
yQRtTVewd9Q-00108-00021200-00021422 entire fortune in the stock market
yQRtTVewd9Q-00109-00021423-00021758 nothing in bonds t-bills real estate
yQRtTVewd9Q-00110-00021759-00022111 precious metals etc why does buzz
yQRtTVewd9Q-00111-00022112-00022311 lightyear freeze around humans if he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00112-00022312-00022486 doesn't even know he's a toy
yQRtTVewd9Q-00113-00022487-00022663 i always thought that going limp was an
yQRtTVewd9Q-00114-00022664-00022903 instinctive impulse the toys had
yQRtTVewd9Q-00115-00022904-00023086 when buzz noticed he was doing it he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00116-00023087-00023255 justified it by saying that he was
yQRtTVewd9Q-00117-00023256-00023503 following local customs
yQRtTVewd9Q-00118-00023504-00023758 in philadelphia and rebecca successfully
yQRtTVewd9Q-00119-00023759-00023983 sues his company for wrongful dismissal
yQRtTVewd9Q-00120-00023984-00024191 after they discover he is aids
yQRtTVewd9Q-00121-00024192-00024422 except it's made incredibly clear that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00122-00024423-00024599 it wasn't cause of his aides they fire
yQRtTVewd9Q-00123-00024600-00024791 him for being homosexual
yQRtTVewd9Q-00124-00024792-00025022 even the defense makes that point at
yQRtTVewd9Q-00125-00025023-00025183 that time in philadelphia
yQRtTVewd9Q-00126-00025184-00025383 it was a hundred percent legal to fire
yQRtTVewd9Q-00127-00025384-00025583 someone for being homosexual
yQRtTVewd9Q-00128-00025584-00025862 the trial should have ended oppositely i
yQRtTVewd9Q-00129-00025863-00026087 believe that film is based on two true
yQRtTVewd9Q-00130-00026088-00026167 stories
yQRtTVewd9Q-00131-00026168-00026335 but the writers may have moved it to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00132-00026336-00026479 philadelphia because of the state's
yQRtTVewd9Q-00133-00026480-00026631 discriminatory laws
yQRtTVewd9Q-00134-00026632-00026831 without realizing that could weaken the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00135-00026832-00027014 plot
yQRtTVewd9Q-00136-00027016-00027311 why do the cars have doors or seats why
yQRtTVewd9Q-00137-00027312-00027502 does mcqueen and doc hudson have to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00138-00027504-00027679 start their engines for their duratrac
yQRtTVewd9Q-00139-00027680-00027758 race
yQRtTVewd9Q-00140-00027760-00027935 they drove to the starting line yet they
yQRtTVewd9Q-00141-00027936-00028239 had to still start their engines
yQRtTVewd9Q-00142-00028239-00028511 the film tiptoes yes the one where
yQRtTVewd9Q-00143-00028512-00028735 academy award-winning actor gary oldman
yQRtTVewd9Q-00144-00028736-00028935 walks around on his knees pretending to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00145-00028936-00029135 be a person with dwarfism
yQRtTVewd9Q-00146-00029136-00029311 the whole premise of that film is that a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00147-00029312-00029535 couple both average-sized
yQRtTVewd9Q-00148-00029536-00029735 find out they're having a kid and it is
yQRtTVewd9Q-00149-00029736-00029927 revealed that the fiancee's family are
yQRtTVewd9Q-00150-00029927-00030031 all dwarfs
yQRtTVewd9Q-00151-00030032-00030287 which freaks him out with the idea of
yQRtTVewd9Q-00152-00030288-00030502 his child being a dwarf too
yQRtTVewd9Q-00153-00030503-00030670 throughout the film it's them coming to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00154-00030672-00030862 terms with the possibility
yQRtTVewd9Q-00155-00030863-00031151 yeah you can't carry dwarfism it is a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00156-00031152-00031279 dominant trait
yQRtTVewd9Q-00157-00031280-00031455 either you have it and are visibly a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00158-00031456-00031743 dwarf or you do not have the gene at all
yQRtTVewd9Q-00159-00031744-00031935 watching this as a dwarf myself was the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00160-00031936-00032167 dumbest experience i've ever had
yQRtTVewd9Q-00161-00032168-00032374 edit as a caveat to this there are
yQRtTVewd9Q-00162-00032375-00032527 literally one hundreds of different
yQRtTVewd9Q-00163-00032527-00032702 medical conditions which fall under the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00164-00032703-00032887 definition of dwarfism and there will be
yQRtTVewd9Q-00165-00032888-00033071 forms which are recessive
yQRtTVewd9Q-00166-00033072-00033246 but the forms of dwarfism that the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00167-00033247-00033483 family has enchondroplasia
yQRtTVewd9Q-00168-00033484-00033607 hypochondroplasia
yQRtTVewd9Q-00169-00033608-00033839 they have a mixture do not fall under
yQRtTVewd9Q-00170-00033840-00034127 that in our dominant forms
yQRtTVewd9Q-00171-00034128-00034271 walking dead whenever they have 10
yQRtTVewd9Q-00172-00034272-00034495 versus 2 000 zombie scenes i mean you
yQRtTVewd9Q-00173-00034496-00034702 cannot kill that many zombies with just
yQRtTVewd9Q-00174-00034703-00034759 knife
yQRtTVewd9Q-00175-00034760-00034943 it will break unless it is on breaking
yQRtTVewd9Q-00176-00034944-00035111 three and mending
yQRtTVewd9Q-00177-00035112-00035374 in x-men you can't use cerebral on
yQRtTVewd9Q-00178-00035375-00035574 magneto which i'm 100
yQRtTVewd9Q-00179-00035575-00035743 fine with because the helmet but you
yQRtTVewd9Q-00180-00035744-00035927 could use it on someone like sabretooth
yQRtTVewd9Q-00181-00035928-00036167 who is standing right next to magneto
yQRtTVewd9Q-00182-00036168-00036374 you have a good point but magneto is so
yQRtTVewd9Q-00183-00036375-00036535 paranoid he probably keeps an
yQRtTVewd9Q-00184-00036536-00036767 electromagnetic field around his allies
yQRtTVewd9Q-00185-00036768-00036951 at all times
yQRtTVewd9Q-00186-00036952-00037215 jeepers creepers the monster guy has a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00187-00037216-00037415 scary truck with a license plate that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00188-00037416-00037535 says beaten goo
yQRtTVewd9Q-00189-00037536-00037727 are we to believe the steam and monster
yQRtTVewd9Q-00190-00037728-00037943 went into the dmv or wherever to get
yQRtTVewd9Q-00191-00037944-00038015 this
yQRtTVewd9Q-00192-00038016-00038279 and why would he drive anywhere he has
yQRtTVewd9Q-00193-00038280-00038367 wings
yQRtTVewd9Q-00194-00038368-00038655 edit more info the characters read the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00195-00038656-00038846 beaten goo as be eating you
yQRtTVewd9Q-00196-00038847-00039030 which turns out to be a warning because
yQRtTVewd9Q-00197-00039031-00039215 he does eat ppl
yQRtTVewd9Q-00198-00039216-00039446 hess been around a while he could have
yQRtTVewd9Q-00199-00039447-00039615 probably stolen it from one of his
yQRtTVewd9Q-00200-00039616-00039718 victims
yQRtTVewd9Q-00201-00039719-00039902 if he found a badass wannabe which had
yQRtTVewd9Q-00202-00039903-00040079 the original intention the plate meaning
yQRtTVewd9Q-00203-00040080-00040295 beating you
yQRtTVewd9Q-00204-00040296-00040495 mostly everything in last season of got
yQRtTVewd9Q-00205-00040496-00040687 the ships never even had a line of sight
yQRtTVewd9Q-00206-00040688-00040918 to shoot the dragon out of the sky
yQRtTVewd9Q-00207-00040919-00041174 also euron's olympic speed swim to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00208-00041175-00041358 king's landing makes michael phelps look
yQRtTVewd9Q-00209-00041359-00041607 like a female dog
yQRtTVewd9Q-00210-00041608-00041862 in primer why didn't guy 2 in timeline
yQRtTVewd9Q-00211-00041863-00042071 for come back to timeline 3 and destroy
yQRtTVewd9Q-00212-00042072-00042311 the box so guy 1 in timeline 8 couldn't
yQRtTVewd9Q-00213-00042312-00042558 go back in time to timeline 5 and fold
yQRtTVewd9Q-00214-00042559-00042774 the box into timeline 6.
yQRtTVewd9Q-00215-00042775-00043111 the title says simple plot hole
yQRtTVewd9Q-00216-00043112-00043374 suicide squad the whole movie was a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00217-00043375-00043487 simple hole
yQRtTVewd9Q-00218-00043488-00043695 why advertise enchantress as one of the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00219-00043696-00043855 team when she's immediately the main
yQRtTVewd9Q-00220-00043856-00043983 antagonist
yQRtTVewd9Q-00221-00043984-00044246 slipknot died so quick he basically
yQRtTVewd9Q-00222-00044247-00044390 wasn't in the movie
yQRtTVewd9Q-00223-00044391-00044567 he can climb anything he uses a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00224-00044568-00044743 grappling gun
yQRtTVewd9Q-00225-00044744-00045071 gravity so many mistakes the one that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00226-00045072-00045255 stands out is george clooney floating
yQRtTVewd9Q-00227-00045256-00045487 away at rapid speed after he detaches
yQRtTVewd9Q-00228-00045488-00045671 himself from sandra bullock
yQRtTVewd9Q-00229-00045672-00045879 that just doesn't happen.he'll still be
yQRtTVewd9Q-00230-00045880-00046071 going be going at the same speed as he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00231-00046072-00046190 was before
yQRtTVewd9Q-00232-00046191-00046502 who tf is pushing him away right
yQRtTVewd9Q-00233-00046503-00046671 that should have been a super boring
yQRtTVewd9Q-00234-00046672-00046886 scene for him like hey guys
yQRtTVewd9Q-00235-00046887-00047086 i only have another 90 minutes of air in
yQRtTVewd9Q-00236-00047087-00047255 this thing have you managed to find a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00237-00047256-00047423 cable or something yet as he floats
yQRtTVewd9Q-00238-00047424-00047630 along at the exact same position he was
yQRtTVewd9Q-00239-00047631-00047855 in before
yQRtTVewd9Q-00240-00047856-00048039 the entire reason harry potter was
yQRtTVewd9Q-00241-00048040-00048199 special was because he survived
yQRtTVewd9Q-00242-00048200-00048374 voldemort as his mother was willing to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00243-00048375-00048590 lay down her life to save his
yQRtTVewd9Q-00244-00048591-00048790 are they seriously implying that no
yQRtTVewd9Q-00245-00048791-00048974 other person in the entire magical
yQRtTVewd9Q-00246-00048975-00049183 universe was willing to sacrifice their
yQRtTVewd9Q-00247-00049184-00049327 life for their kids or lover or
yQRtTVewd9Q-00248-00049328-00049423 something
yQRtTVewd9Q-00249-00049424-00049607 this is a movie plot hole because it's
yQRtTVewd9Q-00250-00049608-00049735 never explained
yQRtTVewd9Q-00251-00049736-00049902 the whole point is that lily was given
yQRtTVewd9Q-00252-00049903-00050135 an explicit choice by her murderer
yQRtTVewd9Q-00253-00050136-00050407 step aside and be spared or stand fast
yQRtTVewd9Q-00254-00050408-00050495 and die
yQRtTVewd9Q-00255-00050496-00050679 he even tried to convince her to step
yQRtTVewd9Q-00256-00050680-00050918 aside lots and lots of people have
yQRtTVewd9Q-00257-00050919-00051174 thrown themselves in front of curses etc
yQRtTVewd9Q-00258-00051175-00051326 and therefore given their lives for
yQRtTVewd9Q-00259-00051327-00051487 their loved ones
yQRtTVewd9Q-00260-00051488-00051630 but they didn't get to so very
yQRtTVewd9Q-00261-00051632-00051807 explicitly choose death when they were
yQRtTVewd9Q-00262-00051808-00052119 offered a way to not die
yQRtTVewd9Q-00263-00052120-00052423 school of rock in any school in america
yQRtTVewd9Q-00264-00052424-00052607 jack black would have been fired before
yQRtTVewd9Q-00265-00052608-00052766 lunch the first day
yQRtTVewd9Q-00266-00052767-00053015 a i'm a principal. i've had much worse
yQRtTVewd9Q-00267-00053016-00053223 subs
yQRtTVewd9Q-00268-00053224-00053487 gremlins had the how far after midnight
yQRtTVewd9Q-00269-00053488-00053559 question
yQRtTVewd9Q-00270-00053560-00053711 but that's more of an unanswered
yQRtTVewd9Q-00271-00053712-00053879 question than a plot hole
yQRtTVewd9Q-00272-00053879-00054150 the animated beauty and the beast in be
yQRtTVewd9Q-00273-00054151-00054230 our guest
yQRtTVewd9Q-00274-00054232-00054463 the candleman it's been a long time
yQRtTVewd9Q-00275-00054464-00054591 since i've watched it
yQRtTVewd9Q-00276-00054591-00054791 i forget his name says they've been
yQRtTVewd9Q-00277-00054791-00054975 rusting for 10 years
yQRtTVewd9Q-00278-00054976-00055215 well that means the beast was 11 when he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00279-00055216-00055311 turned the witch
yQRtTVewd9Q-00280-00055312-00055679 enchantress away also the beast was not
yQRtTVewd9Q-00281-00055679-00055838 an 11 year old king
yQRtTVewd9Q-00282-00055839-00056079 as it states he was a prince where were
yQRtTVewd9Q-00283-00056079-00056350 his parents i get that he should be nice
yQRtTVewd9Q-00284-00056351-00056663 but i was an edgy mean 11 year old too
yQRtTVewd9Q-00285-00056664-00056935 also when belle is singing belle she
yQRtTVewd9Q-00286-00056936-00057175 starts singing to the sheep at one point
yQRtTVewd9Q-00287-00057176-00057471 oh isn't this amazing it's my favorite
yQRtTVewd9Q-00288-00057472-00057615 part because you'll see
yQRtTVewd9Q-00289-00057616-00057830 here's where she meets prince charming
yQRtTVewd9Q-00290-00057832-00058030 but she won't discover that it's until
yQRtTVewd9Q-00291-00058032-00058126 chapter 3
yQRtTVewd9Q-00292-00058127-00058382 when she is singing that we are given a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00293-00058383-00058542 clear view of belle's book
yQRtTVewd9Q-00294-00058544-00058742 and we see an entire page is covered in
yQRtTVewd9Q-00295-00058744-00058871 an illustration
yQRtTVewd9Q-00296-00058872-00059119 also the illustration explains pretty
yQRtTVewd9Q-00297-00059120-00059279 well what's going on
yQRtTVewd9Q-00298-00059279-00059575 later gaston asks bell how can you read
yQRtTVewd9Q-00299-00059576-00059638 this
yQRtTVewd9Q-00300-00059639-00059950 it doesn't have any pictures yes it does
yQRtTVewd9Q-00301-00059951-00060159 it is pictures detailed enough that even
yQRtTVewd9Q-00302-00060160-00060319 gaston could understand what was
yQRtTVewd9Q-00303-00060320-00060599 happening in that scene
yQRtTVewd9Q-00304-00060600-00060823 not sure why nobody ever talks about the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00305-00060824-00061006 fact that at midnight the glass slipper
yQRtTVewd9Q-00306-00061007-00061182 would turn back to a normal shoe just
yQRtTVewd9Q-00307-00061183-00061287 like the dress
yQRtTVewd9Q-00308-00061288-00061526 carriage horses and everything else did
yQRtTVewd9Q-00309-00061527-00061726 the fairy godmother wanted cinderella to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00310-00061727-00061799 have something to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00311-00061800-00062015 remember the night from not like
yQRtTVewd9Q-00312-00062016-00062199 cinderella is going to be walking around
yQRtTVewd9Q-00313-00062200-00062447 the house and one glass slip
yQRtTVewd9Q-00314-00062448-00062775 for star wars c3p0 and r2d2 in the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00315-00062776-00062887 prequels
yQRtTVewd9Q-00316-00062888-00063126 creates so many plot holes sure they
yQRtTVewd9Q-00317-00063127-00063319 wiped the memories of the droids
yQRtTVewd9Q-00318-00063320-00063447 but what about all of the main
yQRtTVewd9Q-00319-00063448-00063647 characters they interacted with
yQRtTVewd9Q-00320-00063648-00063894 old ben kenobi doesn't recognize a r2
yQRtTVewd9Q-00321-00063895-00064087 unit that helped save his life on many
yQRtTVewd9Q-00322-00064088-00064238 previous occasions
yQRtTVewd9Q-00323-00064239-00064471 added spelling old ben probably does
yQRtTVewd9Q-00324-00064472-00064542 remember
yQRtTVewd9Q-00325-00064544-00064735 he's just lying saying things from a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00326-00064736-00064991 certain point of view
yQRtTVewd9Q-00327-00064991-00065191 in back to the future how did marty's
yQRtTVewd9Q-00328-00065191-00065382 dad not recognize that his son grew up
yQRtTVewd9Q-00329-00065383-00065543 to be the person that helped him get the
yQRtTVewd9Q-00330-00065544-00065663 girl he wanted
yQRtTVewd9Q-00331-00065664-00065943 because they only hung out for a week
yQRtTVewd9Q-00332-00065944-00066015 ben affleck
yQRtTVewd9Q-00333-00066016-00066223 on armageddon wouldn't it be easier to
yQRtTVewd9Q-00334-00066224-00066406 train astronauts to be drillers than it
yQRtTVewd9Q-00335-00066407-00066591 would be to train oil drillers to be
yQRtTVewd9Q-00336-00066592-00066711 astronauts
yQRtTVewd9Q-00337-00066712-00067023 michael bay shut the fornicate up that
yQRtTVewd9Q-00338-00067024-00067199 is such a guilty pleasure of a movie
yQRtTVewd9Q-00339-00067200-00067271 though
yQRtTVewd9Q-00340-00067272-00067471 michael clark duncan is a goss darn
yQRtTVewd9Q-00341-00067472-00067759 treasurer and i will not hear otherwise
yQRtTVewd9Q-00342-00067760-00068015 in twd how the fornicate did rick
yQRtTVewd9Q-00343-00068016-00068159 survive his coma
yQRtTVewd9Q-00344-00068160-00068359 it's implied that it lasted at least a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00345-00068360-00068575 month and he had no nurses or anybody
yQRtTVewd9Q-00346-00068576-00068799 giving him fluids or nutrients
yQRtTVewd9Q-00347-00068800-00068975 so how did he live there was actually a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00348-00068976-00069159 mini web series that implied that a
yQRtTVewd9Q-00349-00069160-00069335 woman stayed at the hospital and took
yQRtTVewd9Q-00350-00069336-00069494 care of rick
yQRtTVewd9Q-00351-00069495-00069703 i've stopped watching several movies
yQRtTVewd9Q-00352-00069704-00069894 where the hero had a perfect
yQRtTVewd9Q-00353-00069895-00070182 chance to kill the antagonist but didn't
yQRtTVewd9Q-00354-00070183-00070335 for no good reason
yQRtTVewd9Q-00355-00070336-00070606 i just turn it off and say nope he's
yQRtTVewd9Q-00356-00070607-00070687 dead
yQRtTVewd9Q-00357-00070688-00070903 related i hate when the hero tears
yQRtTVewd9Q-00358-00070904-00071079 through a villain's multi-wave assault
yQRtTVewd9Q-00359-00071080-00071287 of henchmen or assassins causing car
yQRtTVewd9Q-00360-00071288-00071382 crashes
yQRtTVewd9Q-00361-00071383-00071655 shooting them point blank etc without
yQRtTVewd9Q-00362-00071656-00071799 batting an eye but then his immoral
yQRtTVewd9Q-00363-00071800-00072006 quandary over killing the actual villain
yQRtTVewd9Q-00364-00072007-00072223 that always means he lets him live
yQRtTVewd9Q-00365-00072224-00072503 like no i do not kill it'd make me as
yQRtTVewd9Q-00366-00072504-00072606 bad as you
yQRtTVewd9Q-00367-00072607-00072831 but the 50 million dollars in property
yQRtTVewd9Q-00368-00072832-00072975 damage in the 87
yQRtTVewd9Q-00369-00072976-00073175 families now planning funerals for their
yQRtTVewd9Q-00370-00073176-00073382 brutally eviscerated loved ones created
yQRtTVewd9Q-00371-00073383-00073671 on the way here doesn't count
yQRtTVewd9Q-00372-00073672-00073903 and man they specifically say early in
yQRtTVewd9Q-00373-00073904-00074111 the movie that his mass won't change
yQRtTVewd9Q-00374-00074112-00074382 only the space between his molecules so
yQRtTVewd9Q-00375-00074383-00074623 he'd always weigh 200 pounds later on in
yQRtTVewd9Q-00376-00074624-00074823 the same movie hank pym has a freaking
yQRtTVewd9Q-00377-00074824-00074991 tank on his keychain
yQRtTVewd9Q-00378-00074992-00075191 also the fact that the ants can carry
yQRtTVewd9Q-00379-00075192-00075438 scott i know ants are strong but he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00380-00075439-00075638 still weighs 200 pounds
yQRtTVewd9Q-00381-00075639-00075831 it also bugged me because they say it
yQRtTVewd9Q-00382-00075832-00076055 decreases the empty space in atoms so he
yQRtTVewd9Q-00383-00076056-00076215 shouldn't be able to shrink smaller than
yQRtTVewd9Q-00384-00076216-00076350 an atom at the end
yQRtTVewd9Q-00385-00076351-00076567 i know the whole idea of pym particles
yQRtTVewd9Q-00386-00076568-00076806 is bs movie science but it always bugs
yQRtTVewd9Q-00387-00076807-00077031 me when movies set up explicit rules for
yQRtTVewd9Q-00388-00077032-00077094 their bs
yQRtTVewd9Q-00389-00077095-00077319 science and then they break them i'd be
yQRtTVewd9Q-00390-00077320-00077487 more willing to ignore it if they were
yQRtTVewd9Q-00391-00077488-00077662 basically just like it doesn't matter
yQRtTVewd9Q-00392-00077663-00077831 how or why it works
yQRtTVewd9Q-00393-00077832-00078376 it makes you small deal with it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00000-00000115-00000424 hello America James a from here live
yQYSyi4Bux0-00001-00000425-00000653 from Hiawatha Kansas we had to make the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00002-00000654-00000925 second video because well I made two
yQYSyi4Bux0-00003-00000926-00001214 attempts to start it is I discovered
yQYSyi4Bux0-00004-00001215-00001700 that there's no car did you ever make
yQYSyi4Bux0-00005-00001701-00002056 that goofy mistake okay got it fixed and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00006-00002057-00002302 Here I am live from Hiawatha Kansas
yQYSyi4Bux0-00007-00002303-00002708 James way nigma check it out what I want
yQYSyi4Bux0-00008-00002709-00002975 to show you I will tell you is the truth
yQYSyi4Bux0-00009-00002976-00003284 because the truth they say it's that you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00010-00003285-00003608 free but I think that each individual
yQYSyi4Bux0-00011-00003609-00003875 with that beaming soul with inside their
yQYSyi4Bux0-00012-00003876-00004442 body sets them free think about it you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00013-00004443-00004688 just look around you folks look around
yQYSyi4Bux0-00014-00004689-00004979 you right now and tell me what you see
yQYSyi4Bux0-00015-00004980-00005195 do you see a bunch of kids with their
yQYSyi4Bux0-00016-00005196-00005708 faces and their iPhones yeah they love
yQYSyi4Bux0-00017-00005709-00005986 their technology and this generation Z
yQYSyi4Bux0-00018-00005987-00006277 was born into technology you understand
yQYSyi4Bux0-00019-00006278-00006789 and the AI algorithm is made to capture
yQYSyi4Bux0-00020-00006790-00007013 that's what they do is they capture
yQYSyi4Bux0-00021-00007014-00007241 their attention and put it in there
yQYSyi4Bux0-00022-00007242-00007495 makes it the ultimate and most important
yQYSyi4Bux0-00023-00007497-00007914 thing in their life in some cases but
yQYSyi4Bux0-00024-00007915-00008264 slowing down AI simple some a July phone
yQYSyi4Bux0-00025-00008265-00008603 special your iPads you know your one get
yQYSyi4Bux0-00026-00008604-00008963 a landline that was just that's right
yQYSyi4Bux0-00027-00008964-00009188 they would slower down but it's not
yQYSyi4Bux0-00028-00009189-00009328 going to happen that way
yQYSyi4Bux0-00029-00009329-00009514 unfortunately what we're looking at here
yQYSyi4Bux0-00030-00009515-00009942 is a total decimation of the one or two
yQYSyi4Bux0-00031-00009943-00010360 generations if we allow it and the 5g
yQYSyi4Bux0-00032-00010361-00010646 network is a a AI artificial
yQYSyi4Bux0-00033-00010647-00011024 intelligence algorithm but it's built
yQYSyi4Bux0-00034-00011025-00011374 with a microwave system in order to do
yQYSyi4Bux0-00035-00011375-00011692 seek and destroy you know as they talk
yQYSyi4Bux0-00036-00011693-00011899 to their little boxes in a home like a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00037-00011900-00012217 laksa or whatever garbage that they've
yQYSyi4Bux0-00038-00012218-00012424 been putting out those are spy machines
yQYSyi4Bux0-00039-00012425-00012688 those are information gatherers they
yQYSyi4Bux0-00040-00012689-00012857 gather up everything your grudge your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00041-00012858-00013096 farm should whether you speak whatever
yQYSyi4Bux0-00042-00013097-00013263 and they talk to your children
yQYSyi4Bux0-00043-00013265-00013644 behind their backs and plaque little
yQYSyi4Bux0-00044-00013645-00013977 seeds of control
yQYSyi4Bux0-00045-00013978-00014247 see we're living in a five-sense reality
yQYSyi4Bux0-00046-00014248-00014500 laser dome and what I mean got five
yQYSyi4Bux0-00047-00014501-00015513 cents I mean touch taste right sight
yQYSyi4Bux0-00048-00015513-00016134 hearing what's the fifth one you got it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00049-00016135-00016497 now the five-sense reality is a realm
yQYSyi4Bux0-00050-00016498-00016839 that we live in and we see in a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00051-00016840-00017175 two-dimensional vision see we're
yQYSyi4Bux0-00052-00017176-00017392 biological computers ladies and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00053-00017393-00017747 gentlemen in other words our brain
yQYSyi4Bux0-00054-00017748-00018183 that's that's the big boy and everything
yQYSyi4Bux0-00055-00018184-00018424 you take in with your five senses into
yQYSyi4Bux0-00056-00018425-00018864 your brain did you know that you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00057-00018865-00019067 actually see the world upside down and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00058-00019068-00019405 then you flip it and make it right side
yQYSyi4Bux0-00059-00019406-00019444 up
yQYSyi4Bux0-00060-00019445-00019693 earrings ass backwards think about it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00061-00019694-00020011 you got doctors will they do
yQYSyi4Bux0-00062-00020012-00020334 destroy health now you got a lawyer sort
yQYSyi4Bux0-00063-00020335-00020821 of destroying justice think about folks
yQYSyi4Bux0-00064-00020822-00021180 you got religions destroying
yQYSyi4Bux0-00065-00021181-00021571 spirituality these churches are foglar
yQYSyi4Bux0-00066-00021572-00021658 crumbling
yQYSyi4Bux0-00067-00021659-00021915 I'm watching a certain different
yQYSyi4Bux0-00068-00021916-00022068 churches just to see to the congregation
yQYSyi4Bux0-00069-00022069-00022455 and how they're diminishing because the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00070-00022456-00022662 may eyes pulled out of the church
yQYSyi4Bux0-00071-00022663-00023143 because AI wants to be their God AI
yQYSyi4Bux0-00072-00023144-00023412 wants to run the world and it's on its
yQYSyi4Bux0-00073-00023413-00023764 way in a big way if you've got a smart
yQYSyi4Bux0-00074-00023765-00024012 meter outside your house you got the 5g
yQYSyi4Bux0-00075-00024013-00024364 baby it's radiating pulsating every two
yQYSyi4Bux0-00076-00024365-00024587 seconds through your body
yQYSyi4Bux0-00077-00024588-00024961 I'm in so much pain 24/7 and I've been
yQYSyi4Bux0-00078-00024962-00025269 putting a I take it out AI put me on a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00079-00025270-00025558 no treat list that I have a disabled
yQYSyi4Bux0-00080-00025559-00025868 hundred percent American and severe pain
yQYSyi4Bux0-00081-00025869-00026352 an AI algorithm took my payments then it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00082-00026353-00026445 shut mind
yQYSyi4Bux0-00083-00026445-00026892 and left and then I tried to find a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00084-00026893-00027051 doctor within a hundred miles of my
yQYSyi4Bux0-00085-00027052-00027504 house that one would take me on because
yQYSyi4Bux0-00086-00027505-00027758 the AI information that is spewing out
yQYSyi4Bux0-00087-00027760-00028052 through the Medical Association against
yQYSyi4Bux0-00088-00028053-00028374 the law mind you and then they're going
yQYSyi4Bux0-00089-00028375-00028818 to join it with the mental there you go
yQYSyi4Bux0-00090-00028819-00029111 so that's what China is doing right now
yQYSyi4Bux0-00091-00029112-00029507 is route take an AI let it run a while
yQYSyi4Bux0-00092-00029508-00029887 they're putting everybody on a score and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00093-00029888-00030249 everything you do is registered by AI to
yQYSyi4Bux0-00094-00030250-00030545 never forget and they take all your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00095-00030547-00030815 information your health information your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00096-00030816-00031237 mental information you're driving
yQYSyi4Bux0-00097-00031238-00031640 information tickets rest things that
yQYSyi4Bux0-00098-00031641-00031911 sucks if you buy a good it's registered
yQYSyi4Bux0-00099-00031912-00032295 they got all the information even down
yQYSyi4Bux0-00100-00032295-00032481 to which you buy and grocery stores
yQYSyi4Bux0-00101-00032482-00032829 that's right and they hone it in even in
yQYSyi4Bux0-00102-00032830-00033174 appliances picked it's everywhere
yQYSyi4Bux0-00103-00033175-00034062 ai is now taking over the system ai is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00104-00034063-00034287 taking over every aspect of our lives
yQYSyi4Bux0-00105-00034288-00034536 it's registering or water it's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00106-00034537-00034758 registering our gas it's registering or
yQYSyi4Bux0-00107-00034759-00034995 electric it's registering the sewer it's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00108-00034996-00035235 registering every information it's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00109-00035236-00035418 gathering gathering that's what it's all
yQYSyi4Bux0-00110-00035419-00035462 about
yQYSyi4Bux0-00111-00035463-00035896 ai is gathering all the information
yQYSyi4Bux0-00112-00035897-00036183 that's right American it's gathering all
yQYSyi4Bux0-00113-00036184-00036417 your information your children's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00114-00036418-00036662 information even the fun of the spoken
yQYSyi4Bux0-00115-00036663-00036855 word behind your closed doors in your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00116-00036856-00037230 home it's gathering it all you got a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00117-00037231-00037473 fight you no way you can fight it is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00118-00037474-00037758 only one way to fight AI or well I'm
yQYSyi4Bux0-00119-00037759-00038027 sorry I make it two ways first you can
yQYSyi4Bux0-00120-00038028-00038190 smash the iPhone
yQYSyi4Bux0-00121-00038191-00038409 and that would just basically shut it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00122-00038410-00038583 shut it off or can't listen to you no
yQYSyi4Bux0-00123-00038584-00038856 more take the election and kick it like
yQYSyi4Bux0-00124-00038857-00039105 a football out there in the yard you can
yQYSyi4Bux0-00125-00039106-00039623 do that but see here's the problem folks
yQYSyi4Bux0-00126-00039624-00039966 you gotta take control of our justice
yQYSyi4Bux0-00127-00039967-00040134 system you see what just happened the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00128-00040135-00040443 cabin all right Cavanaugh just got
yQYSyi4Bux0-00129-00040444-00041418 ripped wrong robbed and roll that's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00130-00041419-00041844 right ripped robbed and rolled you see
yQYSyi4Bux0-00131-00041845-00042209 what they did to a Supreme Court nominee
yQYSyi4Bux0-00132-00042210-00042624 how they slander him smashed in and it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00133-00042625-00042864 overly admitted it Nancy Pelosi's up
yQYSyi4Bux0-00134-00042865-00043299 their platform saying this is a tactic
yQYSyi4Bux0-00135-00043300-00043743 that we use their their openly admitted
yQYSyi4Bux0-00136-00043744-00043914 because they made a law where they can
yQYSyi4Bux0-00137-00043915-00044217 be prosecuted that's why they went buck
yQYSyi4Bux0-00138-00044218-00044505 wild that's why the MSM the main screen
yQYSyi4Bux0-00139-00044506-00044868 media liars and perjurers of web fake
yQYSyi4Bux0-00140-00044869-00045186 news that's why they do it because they
yQYSyi4Bux0-00141-00045187-00045666 can well what we can do is go to court
yQYSyi4Bux0-00142-00045667-00046092 as a jerk and nullify every single case
yQYSyi4Bux0-00143-00046093-00046533 that alcohol that has guns that has
yQYSyi4Bux0-00144-00046534-00046884 drugs and long dinner that's right you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00145-00046885-00047172 go to court the power one is more
yQYSyi4Bux0-00146-00047173-00047340 powerful than the president United
yQYSyi4Bux0-00147-00047341-00047613 States you go in there's a jerk you have
yQYSyi4Bux0-00148-00047614-00047796 all the power the judge took there's no
yQYSyi4Bux0-00149-00047797-00047907 time think about it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00150-00047908-00048243 the Supreme Court is supreme because
yQYSyi4Bux0-00151-00048244-00048591 we've allowed it to become supreme it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00152-00048592-00048893 can't dictate or make law from the bench
yQYSyi4Bux0-00153-00048894-00049188 no judge can you understand what judges
yQYSyi4Bux0-00154-00049189-00049548 jobs are judge's job or to judge find
yQYSyi4Bux0-00155-00049549-00049991 the law written the Supreme Court is the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00156-00049992-00050300 to take the Constitution the Bill of
yQYSyi4Bux0-00157-00050301-00050582 Rights is written and interpreted into
yQYSyi4Bux0-00158-00050583-00050894 whatever case it is and give their
yQYSyi4Bux0-00159-00050895-00051553 opinion they can't dictate or preach law
yQYSyi4Bux0-00160-00051554-00051875 from the [__] they can't make long
yQYSyi4Bux0-00161-00051876-00052216 folks that's Congress all right Congress
yQYSyi4Bux0-00162-00052217-00052688 you wanted to make long in the president
yQYSyi4Bux0-00163-00052689-00053029 and boy whatever they want to do and he
yQYSyi4Bux0-00164-00053030-00053294 will be started to avoid a lot of stuff
yQYSyi4Bux0-00165-00053295-00053597 guarantee but with what you did see with
yQYSyi4Bux0-00166-00053598-00053939 Cavanaugh was a travesty but they don't
yQYSyi4Bux0-00167-00053940-00054263 care they love it they hope that he
yQYSyi4Bux0-00168-00054264-00054503 suffers from it the rest his life but he
yQYSyi4Bux0-00169-00054504-00054791 won't is that the voice of the public
yQYSyi4Bux0-00170-00054791-00055040 opinion which is us read the people down
yQYSyi4Bux0-00171-00055041-00055274 on the ground he's innocent
yQYSyi4Bux0-00172-00055275-00055514 we all know that so sorry about your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00173-00055515-00055850 life demo rat she failed again and by
yQYSyi4Bux0-00174-00055851-00056167 failing you exposed your rotten selves
yQYSyi4Bux0-00175-00056169-00056585 to basically low world you don't have a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00176-00056586-00056636 chance
yQYSyi4Bux0-00177-00056637-00056885 red waves but a war's over you sons of
yQYSyi4Bux0-00178-00056886-00057083 [__] so hard and probably kill half
yQYSyi4Bux0-00179-00057084-00057296 of you if you always jump it out the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00180-00057297-00057419 freaking windows because you're afraid
yQYSyi4Bux0-00181-00057420-00057551 you're going to go to jail because
yQYSyi4Bux0-00182-00057552-00057829 justice is coming for you and believe it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00183-00057830-00058120 it's coming but the point of my video is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00184-00058121-00058550 to tell you you are more powerful than
yQYSyi4Bux0-00185-00058551-00058862 the universe itself with your soul you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00186-00058863-00059039 understand how powerful your shoulders
yQYSyi4Bux0-00187-00059040-00059399 ladies and gentlemen think about it it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00188-00059400-00059645 is you it's the light in you that's why
yQYSyi4Bux0-00189-00059646-00059810 they say you can look through the eyes
yQYSyi4Bux0-00190-00059811-00060232 of people eyes with the wave into a soul
yQYSyi4Bux0-00191-00060233-00060611 it's true that's why you did win 1.3
yQYSyi4Bux0-00192-00060612-00060800 seconds you can glancin somebody to pick
yQYSyi4Bux0-00193-00060801-00060920 up on who they are
yQYSyi4Bux0-00194-00060921-00061223 isn't that amazing if you can do that
yQYSyi4Bux0-00195-00061224-00061514 it's called a sixth sense reality in
yQYSyi4Bux0-00196-00061515-00061637 other words you're leaving the five
yQYSyi4Bux0-00197-00061638-00062092 senses and gathering information on
yQYSyi4Bux0-00198-00062094-00062444 people and a lot of people go I got it a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00199-00062445-00062687 lot of people I know got it it's just I
yQYSyi4Bux0-00200-00062688-00062933 mean I get to a point where I go
yQYSyi4Bux0-00201-00062934-00063209 around the wildlife even a flower can
yQYSyi4Bux0-00202-00063210-00063505 make the hairs of my arm stand up so
yQYSyi4Bux0-00203-00063507-00063797 beautiful it's called a connection a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00204-00063798-00064191 sixth sense connection to the two beyond
yQYSyi4Bux0-00205-00064192-00064567 the five sense reality and everybody's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00206-00064569-00064748 got it you felt it you know it but you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00207-00064749-00065086 just always disregarded like no no no
yQYSyi4Bux0-00208-00065087-00065416 yes yes yes because you're getting
yQYSyi4Bux0-00209-00065417-00065633 thoughts put in your head by the AI
yQYSyi4Bux0-00210-00065634-00066026 algorithm Wi-Fi system as I speak a lot
yQYSyi4Bux0-00211-00066027-00066188 of times things pop in your head you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00212-00066189-00066353 don't know where the hell they come from
yQYSyi4Bux0-00213-00066354-00066586 that's the 5g Network that's the AI
yQYSyi4Bux0-00214-00066587-00066977 Watson that's right they don't have
yQYSyi4Bux0-00215-00066978-00067241 those sold folks this is the key
yQYSyi4Bux0-00216-00067242-00067571 they are so or less that's why they
yQYSyi4Bux0-00217-00067572-00067850 don't have problem pushes into wars of
yQYSyi4Bux0-00218-00067851-00068291 aggression and killing us massively by
yQYSyi4Bux0-00219-00068292-00068447 the millions and billions they kill over
yQYSyi4Bux0-00220-00068448-00068663 a billion people quote through the AI
yQYSyi4Bux0-00221-00068664-00068951 system in the last 10 years tell me we
yQYSyi4Bux0-00222-00068952-00069407 need genocide that's right America is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00223-00069408-00069991 being gin outside heavily on the lights
yQYSyi4Bux0-00224-00069992-00070304 it's not no particular reason it's not
yQYSyi4Bux0-00225-00070305-00070648 because white is because we're a threat
yQYSyi4Bux0-00226-00070649-00071012 white people are a major threat to AI
yQYSyi4Bux0-00227-00071013-00071258 because they're speaking out like I am
yQYSyi4Bux0-00228-00071259-00071597 right now you have to eliminate the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00229-00071598-00071774 threat that's where they eyes doing it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00230-00071775-00071963 eliminate the trivet eliminate the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00231-00071964-00072284 threat yeah that's weed of people and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00232-00072285-00072629 color has no boundaries just like your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00233-00072630-00073016 heart your soul when you feel things
yQYSyi4Bux0-00234-00073017-00073439 that is six-inch reality I'm talking
yQYSyi4Bux0-00235-00073440-00073715 about internal feelings when you gather
yQYSyi4Bux0-00236-00073716-00073946 information that you're seeing and data
yQYSyi4Bux0-00237-00073947-00074249 and you're processing it it shows that
yQYSyi4Bux0-00238-00074250-00074392 you have the ability to go out
yQYSyi4Bux0-00239-00074393-00074806 five cents reality it's true it's a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00240-00074807-00075064 little bit crazy to you well think about
yQYSyi4Bux0-00241-00075065-00075318 it think about yourself
yQYSyi4Bux0-00242-00075319-00075550 that's why was that back up by the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00243-00075551-00076038 paranoid guy haha it had great awesome
yQYSyi4Bux0-00244-00076039-00076402 awesome better left guy with a knife guy
yQYSyi4Bux0-00245-00076403-00076672 hey check out to check out this radio
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yQYSyi4Bux0-00247-00077162-00077794 that see you back here it's got its kind
yQYSyi4Bux0-00248-00077795-00078307 of solar crank that baby yet drink up
yQYSyi4Bux0-00249-00078308-00078511 your antenna so when the lights go out
yQYSyi4Bux0-00250-00078512-00078757 folks when the lights go out you need
yQYSyi4Bux0-00251-00078758-00078916 something that's going to be there so
yQYSyi4Bux0-00252-00078917-00079276 you can get information it is read it's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00253-00079277-00079474 got a crank it's gay I'll tell you what
yQYSyi4Bux0-00254-00079475-00079783 it's got a crank on it you crank power
yQYSyi4Bux0-00255-00079784-00080040 on you don't need not anybody crank
yQYSyi4Bux0-00256-00080041-00080305 you'll be cranking like hell guaranteed
yQYSyi4Bux0-00257-00080306-00080725 that I've done but it works and that's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00258-00080726-00080884 the special thing about this Voyager
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yQYSyi4Bux0-00265-00082853-00083062 when the Wi-Fi goes down folks and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00266-00083063-00083308 believe me it's gonna go down because
yQYSyi4Bux0-00267-00083309-00083824 once a I kids control once a I gets
yQYSyi4Bux0-00268-00083825-00084139 control ambience meeting once a I gets
yQYSyi4Bux0-00269-00084140-00084631 control all the water the sewers the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00270-00084632-00084931 electric the cable everything you can
yQYSyi4Bux0-00271-00084932-00085096 imagine the Wi-Fi system they're going
yQYSyi4Bux0-00272-00085097-00085351 to be able to do pinpoint and shut it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00273-00085352-00085651 down wherever they want they can kill
yQYSyi4Bux0-00274-00085652-00086128 whole towns within a week you understand
yQYSyi4Bux0-00275-00086129-00086302 we're biological computers we can have
yQYSyi4Bux0-00276-00086303-00086400 food water
yQYSyi4Bux0-00277-00086401-00086641 survive when they take and stop the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00278-00086642-00086965 trucks and stop the food and then shut
yQYSyi4Bux0-00279-00086966-00087409 off your water and then take their eat
yQYSyi4Bux0-00280-00087410-00087657 ones and if you try to get out they come
yQYSyi4Bux0-00281-00087658-00087867 [__] your ass that's how bad it's going
yQYSyi4Bux0-00282-00087868-00088313 to get if we allow it we're under attack
yQYSyi4Bux0-00283-00088314-00088701 right now where do you think all the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00284-00088702-00088893 cancers exploded by twenty-five hundred
yQYSyi4Bux0-00285-00088894-00089028 percent of the last five years
yQYSyi4Bux0-00286-00089029-00089391 think about it folks look around you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00287-00089392-00089619 used to never be able see a cancer
yQYSyi4Bux0-00288-00089620-00089878 patient or autistic child now it's one
yQYSyi4Bux0-00289-00089879-00090132 in 46 or autistic we're talking major
yQYSyi4Bux0-00290-00090133-00090453 problem here what are we going to do
yQYSyi4Bux0-00291-00090454-00090699 with all them poor babies huh you're
yQYSyi4Bux0-00292-00090700-00090861 going to sit and [__] the corner for 30
yQYSyi4Bux0-00293-00090862-00090974 years
yQYSyi4Bux0-00294-00090975-00091272 it's amazing that AI has done this
yQYSyi4Bux0-00295-00091273-00091917 that's how unhuman AI 5g is it's a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00296-00091918-00092175 microwave system designed to give you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00297-00092176-00092601 cancer and disease and that's why calls
yQYSyi4Bux0-00298-00092602-00093219 did these undies or you have a problem
yQYSyi4Bux0-00299-00093220-00093450 sleeping or you have a thought in your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00300-00093451-00093634 head and just pop it in for the reason
yQYSyi4Bux0-00301-00093635-00093847 you don't know tell is that's 5g network
yQYSyi4Bux0-00302-00093848-00094281 playing with your head are you are you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00303-00094282-00094703 in pain 24/7 like me and say hi baby
yQYSyi4Bux0-00304-00094704-00094980 they can do all these things but they
yQYSyi4Bux0-00305-00094981-00095325 lack the most important element is the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00306-00095326-00095769 soul your soul is so powerful folks that
yQYSyi4Bux0-00307-00095770-00096040 it explodes out of this universe it is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00308-00096041-00096282 part of the universe and it's powerful
yQYSyi4Bux0-00309-00096283-00096717 as a universe within itself when you die
yQYSyi4Bux0-00310-00096718-00096993 your soul leaves your body I'm here to
yQYSyi4Bux0-00311-00096994-00097263 tell you I've seen souls leave bodies
yQYSyi4Bux0-00312-00097264-00097488 and the many of you out there probably
yQYSyi4Bux0-00313-00097489-00097582 have too
yQYSyi4Bux0-00314-00097583-00097879 but it's it's okay it's the way it is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00315-00097880-00098080 this is truth you're seeing that totally
yQYSyi4Bux0-00316-00098081-00098338 that body you ever see a dead body folks
yQYSyi4Bux0-00317-00098339-00098667 and you know you walk up to and say
yQYSyi4Bux0-00318-00098668-00099055 nobody's home it's an empty house that's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00319-00099056-00099331 all the body is in the meat suit to hold
yQYSyi4Bux0-00320-00099332-00099730 that precious powerful soul that you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00321-00099731-00100087 possess and that's what AI wants to
yQYSyi4Bux0-00322-00100088-00100504 control the meat they know they can't
yQYSyi4Bux0-00323-00100505-00100822 control the soul but if they control the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00324-00100823-00101200 meat and change the soul dark Wow
yQYSyi4Bux0-00325-00101201-00101545 think of the possibilities of that and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00326-00101546-00101835 that's what their goal is folks seek
yQYSyi4Bux0-00327-00101836-00102220 destroy and by gathering all your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00328-00102221-00102454 information through everything you do
yQYSyi4Bux0-00329-00102455-00102730 everything you touch everything you eat
yQYSyi4Bux0-00330-00102731-00102909 they're going to have chips and pill
yQYSyi4Bux0-00331-00102910-00103117 bottles water they're gonna have chips
yQYSyi4Bux0-00332-00103118-00103288 and every freaking thing you could ever
yQYSyi4Bux0-00333-00103289-00103608 imagine they're tiny is a grain of sand
yQYSyi4Bux0-00334-00103609-00103966 folks you're being nanotech right now to
yQYSyi4Bux0-00335-00103967-00104275 the kid trucks you just most people
yQYSyi4Bux0-00336-00104276-00104508 don't know it but it's true you're
yQYSyi4Bux0-00337-00104509-00104671 breathing in chemtrails with it Ray's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00338-00104672-00104839 house like when it comes down to land
yQYSyi4Bux0-00339-00104840-00105084 well on you in you around you and you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00340-00105085-00105307 touch it you taste it you smell it and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00341-00105308-00105526 it enters your body and it starts
yQYSyi4Bux0-00342-00105527-00105781 breaking up your DNA that's how some
yQYSyi4Bux0-00343-00105782-00106099 beautiful trying to kill there was 7
yQYSyi4Bux0-00344-00106100-00106294 billion people on the planet in the last
yQYSyi4Bux0-00345-00106295-00106722 10 years they reduced that by 1 billion
yQYSyi4Bux0-00346-00106723-00107194 last 10 years folks quietly side with me
yQYSyi4Bux0-00347-00107195-00107455 as we talk about oh just white cops shot
yQYSyi4Bux0-00348-00107456-00107692 a black kid over here this long go go
yQYSyi4Bux0-00349-00107693-00108033 get all crazy about that they show their
yQYSyi4Bux0-00350-00108034-00108274 hand they showed who they are to
yQYSyi4Bux0-00351-00108275-00108613 Cavanaugh and it was spread across this
yQYSyi4Bux0-00352-00108614-00108790 country and I guarantee it went
yQYSyi4Bux0-00353-00108791-00109311 Meeny worldwide the whole point is video
yQYSyi4Bux0-00354-00109313-00109683 is let you know that you have the power
yQYSyi4Bux0-00355-00109684-00109969 through jury nullification
yQYSyi4Bux0-00356-00109970-00110283 by all this crap in the five-sense
yQYSyi4Bux0-00357-00110284-00110569 reality and then you also have the power
yQYSyi4Bux0-00358-00110570-00110956 of the soul that can defeat AI because
yQYSyi4Bux0-00359-00110957-00111274 it's soulless that's all I'm really
yQYSyi4Bux0-00360-00111275-00111388 going through you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00361-00111389-00111609 right just handle saying I mean it's out
yQYSyi4Bux0-00362-00111610-00111858 there I know you gotta understand folks
yQYSyi4Bux0-00363-00111859-00112081 I've seen it firsthand
yQYSyi4Bux0-00364-00112082-00112303 I took a cobra watch for six in two days
yQYSyi4Bux0-00365-00112304-00112528 I've been through hell and high water my
yQYSyi4Bux0-00366-00112529-00112765 entire life I was home abandoned by
yQYSyi4Bux0-00367-00112766-00112972 three be illegal aliens and shot me
yQYSyi4Bux0-00368-00112973-00113275 twice my wife tries and beat us with a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00369-00113276-00113484 hammer is established and all this other
yQYSyi4Bux0-00370-00113485-00113658 crazy [__] and burnt the house down
yQYSyi4Bux0-00371-00113659-00113920 while we was still in it trying to
yQYSyi4Bux0-00372-00113921-00114397 murder our ass it's true people whatever
yQYSyi4Bux0-00373-00114398-00114619 they you know here's funny thing I've
yQYSyi4Bux0-00374-00114620-00114853 been asking for a buck one buck as they
yQYSyi4Bux0-00375-00114854-00115236 send me a buck right people get back at
yQYSyi4Bux0-00376-00115238-00115483 people on gab now they're coming from
yQYSyi4Bux0-00377-00115483-00115894 Twitter the idiots they come on I was
yQYSyi4Bux0-00378-00115895-00116010 going to watch your videos
yQYSyi4Bux0-00379-00116011-00116208 sima gonna be good until you ask for
yQYSyi4Bux0-00380-00116209-00116863 money hey I asked for one buck anybody
yQYSyi4Bux0-00381-00116864-00117081 out there can't afford to send me a buck
yQYSyi4Bux0-00382-00117082-00117411 obviously this way it is the ass hasn't
yQYSyi4Bux0-00383-00117413-00117640 got me so suppressed so blackballed
yQYSyi4Bux0-00384-00117641-00118147 I have not received one buck and over a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00385-00118148-00118450 year have another year half I've asked
yQYSyi4Bux0-00386-00118451-00118935 for a buck ain't never receiving one now
yQYSyi4Bux0-00387-00118936-00119169 how could that be
yQYSyi4Bux0-00388-00119170-00119449 baby I'm so blackballed at dough bunny
yQYSyi4Bux0-00389-00119450-00119821 see my [__] anywhere but one stray cat
yQYSyi4Bux0-00390-00119822-00120094 like this guy tell me I'd watch your
yQYSyi4Bux0-00391-00120095-00120466 video would you know hey I put up just
yQYSyi4Bux0-00392-00120467-00120703 put on get the article from the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00393-00120704-00120970 Indianapolis Star that tells a short
yQYSyi4Bux0-00394-00120971-00121204 story I don't think it does it lies
yQYSyi4Bux0-00395-00121205-00121458 about one part says that they demanded
yQYSyi4Bux0-00396-00121459-00121700 drugs and money nobody did
yQYSyi4Bux0-00397-00121701-00122153 manded money no drugs there was no drugs
yQYSyi4Bux0-00398-00122154-00122498 involved that's that's the deception by
yQYSyi4Bux0-00399-00122499-00122801 the left that pushing that crap and give
yQYSyi4Bux0-00400-00122802-00123497 people doubt but I loved every one every
yQYSyi4Bux0-00401-00123498-00123727 stinking one ivy I love you out there
yQYSyi4Bux0-00402-00123728-00123908 you're precious
yQYSyi4Bux0-00403-00123908-00124159 you're powerful with your soul and you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00404-00124160-00124445 have this but you got to do a favor for
yQYSyi4Bux0-00405-00124446-00124844 me folks you got to wake the hell up
yQYSyi4Bux0-00406-00124845-00125108 that's huh that's what my whole host
yQYSyi4Bux0-00407-00125108-00125447 feel is right the hell up oh here's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00408-00125448-00125492 another one
yQYSyi4Bux0-00409-00125493-00125654 check this out this is a fun little
yQYSyi4Bux0-00410-00125655-00125942 flashlight I got it from survival the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00411-00125943-00126352 survival guy check him out see right
yQYSyi4Bux0-00412-00126353-00126759 there you got this one
yQYSyi4Bux0-00413-00126760-00127091 yeah check that out you think they might
yQYSyi4Bux0-00414-00127092-00127478 blind somebody that's what it's for is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00415-00127479-00127802 to help you survive survival flashlight
yQYSyi4Bux0-00416-00127803-00128000 it's amazing what they can build
yQYSyi4Bux0-00417-00128001-00128948 nowadays yes nice solid steel aluminum
yQYSyi4Bux0-00418-00128949-00129254 the suckers ground with a truck is still
yQYSyi4Bux0-00419-00129255-00129721 stand it's called the high beam hy-vee
yQYSyi4Bux0-00420-00129722-00130088 am check it out I think I've got this
yQYSyi4Bux0-00421-00130089-00130676 for like 20 bucks I'm poor as a
yQYSyi4Bux0-00422-00130677-00130885 Churchmouse but I can afford little
yQYSyi4Bux0-00423-00130886-00131197 things but the thing about it is folks
yQYSyi4Bux0-00424-00131198-00131495 you do have that power you have the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00425-00131496-00131804 awesome power your soul you know when
yQYSyi4Bux0-00426-00131805-00132014 you look around who's good who's bad is
yQYSyi4Bux0-00427-00132015-00132268 this if that's the sixth sense working
yQYSyi4Bux0-00428-00132269-00132569 people are denied or six cents and stick
yQYSyi4Bux0-00429-00132570-00132881 to the Bisons reality most time people
yQYSyi4Bux0-00430-00132882-00133036 believe what they hear
yQYSyi4Bux0-00431-00133037-00133256 they're supposed to be believed nothing
yQYSyi4Bux0-00432-00133257-00133357 you hear
yQYSyi4Bux0-00433-00133358-00133705 half would you see if you want to truth
yQYSyi4Bux0-00434-00133706-00134058 I guarantee on seeing in all the MSNBC
yQYSyi4Bux0-00435-00134059-00134587 all them suckers CBS ABC Fox we're all
yQYSyi4Bux0-00436-00134588-00134674 liars
yQYSyi4Bux0-00437-00134675-00134898 Sean Hannity you're you're full of [__]
yQYSyi4Bux0-00438-00134899-00135202 with your oh it's just a tough breaking
yQYSyi4Bux0-00439-00135203-00135613 file out there they're the ones or even
yQYSyi4Bux0-00440-00135614-00135996 the rank of Klaus is awesome
yQYSyi4Bux0-00441-00135997-00136282 [__] when you're talking about a mob
yQYSyi4Bux0-00442-00136283-00136482 that's what we just experienced
yQYSyi4Bux0-00443-00136483-00136876 firsthand what they are the mob and they
yQYSyi4Bux0-00444-00136877-00137329 attack you the innocent person destroy
yQYSyi4Bux0-00445-00137330-00137638 your life see we're not Kavanaugh side
yQYSyi4Bux0-00446-00137639-00137938 here folks we're humans that get ruined
yQYSyi4Bux0-00447-00137939-00138283 by false accusations every stinking day
yQYSyi4Bux0-00448-00138284-00138808 it all comes from the left trust me so
yQYSyi4Bux0-00449-00138809-00139171 wake up wake the hell up ladies and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00450-00139172-00140003 gentlemen here see you wake it up
yQYSyi4Bux0-00451-00140004-00140263 that's all I'm hoping for y'all wait -
yQYSyi4Bux0-00452-00140264-00140323 hello
yQYSyi4Bux0-00453-00140324-00140512 but it's Benny I'll tell you what's been
yQYSyi4Bux0-00454-00140513-00140666 great talking to you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00455-00140667-00141001 tonight guys sign up now I'll tell you
yQYSyi4Bux0-00456-00141002-00141268 why but I told you is the absolute truth
yQYSyi4Bux0-00457-00141269-00141927 to my ability it is what it is I'm
yQYSyi4Bux0-00458-00141928-00142195 telling you God bless you God bless
yQYSyi4Bux0-00459-00142196-00142513 everything you love and cherish and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00460-00142514-00142822 should be your damn family right that's
yQYSyi4Bux0-00461-00142823-00143079 right trying to protect them and fight
yQYSyi4Bux0-00462-00143080-00143206 for liberty
yQYSyi4Bux0-00463-00143207-00143453 that's right fight for liberty American
yQYSyi4Bux0-00464-00143454-00143814 James Wayne a 1400 North first Street
yQYSyi4Bux0-00465-00143815-00144145 partner twenty four six six four three
yQYSyi4Bux0-00466-00144146-00144744 four hey enemy a buck and we got one yet
yQYSyi4Bux0-00467-00144745-00145018 that's amazing all the hell and high
yQYSyi4Bux0-00468-00145019-00145258 water and you got one you got this crazy
yQYSyi4Bux0-00469-00145259-00145471 [__] accusing Kavanaugh give the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00470-00145472-00145747 million dollars and go fund me ain't got
yQYSyi4Bux0-00471-00145748-00145951 no stinking GoFundMe I got nothing all
yQYSyi4Bux0-00472-00145952-00146275 guys this right here what I say leave me
yQYSyi4Bux0-00473-00146276-00146626 but wow what what what a money-grubbing
yQYSyi4Bux0-00474-00146627-00146952 and I've received no no buck no dollars
yQYSyi4Bux0-00475-00146953-00147298 zero zip nada I guarantee I get a buck
yQYSyi4Bux0-00476-00147299-00147538 I'm gonna make a [__] video about the
yQYSyi4Bux0-00477-00147539-00147832 first book if it has been well over here
yQYSyi4Bux0-00478-00147833-00148189 so I might expected anything but thank
yQYSyi4Bux0-00479-00148190-00148578 you for watching if you see this pass it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00480-00148579-00148951 on subscribe to my youtube if you want
yQYSyi4Bux0-00481-00148952-00149143 to I don't really care about you to come
yQYSyi4Bux0-00482-00149144-00149443 off I'm on real-time video here this
yQYSyi4Bux0-00483-00149444-00149994 we're all man real video that's the new
yQYSyi4Bux0-00484-00149995-00150429 improved YouTube YouTube is called down
yQYSyi4Bux0-00485-00150430-00151311 the tubes and uh that's it gap dot a I
yQYSyi4Bux0-00486-00151312-00151627 dumped wiggler it's time to dump the big
yQYSyi4Bux0-00487-00151628-00151825 three and that's what I'm striving for
yQYSyi4Bux0-00488-00151826-00152068 I'm almost there I got rid of Twitter in
yQYSyi4Bux0-00489-00152069-00152310 your face bookies that's right
yQYSyi4Bux0-00490-00152311-00152721 got rid of both of them they're gone
yQYSyi4Bux0-00491-00152722-00153058 that's what it's all about folks ditch
yQYSyi4Bux0-00492-00153059-00153390 the big three it's time to wake up and
yQYSyi4Bux0-00493-00153391-00153844 take control of our our future and we
yQYSyi4Bux0-00494-00153845-00154000 bring back our Liberty
yQYSyi4Bux0-00495-00154001-00154321 it's about liberty folks god-given
yQYSyi4Bux0-00496-00154322-00154603 rights that's it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00497-00154604-00154816 long after this video thanks for
yQYSyi4Bux0-00498-00154817-00154987 watching god bless you and god bless
yQYSyi4Bux0-00499-00154988-00155227 everything you know and you've got it as
yQYSyi4Bux0-00500-00155228-00155389 I always say
yQYSyi4Bux0-00501-00155390-00155872 god bless ha ha America you sons of
yQYSyi4Bux0-00502-00155873-00156024 [__]
yQYSyi4Bux0-00503-00156025-00156589 check out acts 2:38 acts 239 and it
yQYSyi4Bux0-00504-00156590-00156804 might change your life through
yQYSyi4Bux0-00505-00156805-00157096 Godspeed American Godspeed
yQYSyi4Bux0-00506-00157097-00158374 I love you all see you soon bye-bye
yQYSyi4Bux0-00507-00158375-00158759 [Music]
yQYSyi4Bux0-00508-00158760-00159148 god bless america
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00089-00029945-00030329 advertising but most important if you
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00091-00030660-00030970 percent fee it's your must and uh your
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00093-00031350-00031540 Etsy Shop uh with
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00094-00031541-00031852 Etsy uh payments if you have Etsy
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00095-00031854-00032081 payments in different countries you must
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00098-00032658-00032993 one moment please uh three percent plus
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00099-00032994-00033352 uh zero twenty five uh in other
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00102-00033882-00034115 five percent and many country you must
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00106-00035166-00035531 see uh what we could uh say about uh
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00107-00035532-00035790 this two Marketplace of course much more
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00109-00036168-00036415 moment much more expensive
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00110-00036416-00036785 much more cheaper but on the Bonanza uh
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00111-00036786-00037189 you see uh uh one answer
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00112-00037190-00037540 uh you see uh less people are total
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00113-00037541-00037912 visits total visits uh less a nearly 3
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00114-00037913-00038183 million uh on Etsy
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00115-00038184-00038459 Etsy became huge Marketplace last years
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00117-00038946-00039245 see that where concurration have a
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00118-00039246-00039437 competition much more bigger the
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00119-00039438-00039737 competition much more smaller and uh how
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00120-00039738-00039995 you need to pay uh to sell on this
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00121-00039996-00040259 Marketplace what you do where is the
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00122-00040260-00040583 best place to sell you could try on Etsy
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00123-00040584-00040951 a walk you could try a walk on a bonus
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00124-00040952-00041273 but if you have chance if you could walk
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yRT2dyo8Pfo-00130-00042413-00042637 pricing and it's cheaper if you want to
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00131-00042638-00043061 uh try only try how to sell online try
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00132-00043062-00043330 balance it's my weather if you want to
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00133-00043331-00043612 sell it you have so many items uh you
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00134-00043613-00043901 have different variant of your own items
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00135-00043902-00044345 try Etsy but if you uh sell on 80 one or
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00136-00044346-00044789 two items uh it could be not visible on
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00137-00044790-00045058 Etsy because 80 became huge Marketplace
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00138-00045059-00045412 and a Marketplace it's mean uh you must
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00139-00045413-00045796 show your clients different items that
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00140-00045797-00046168 can choose from because one two items in
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00141-00046169-00046546 the section it's so less for Etsy if you
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00142-00046547-00046823 try a true loan uh choose one answer
yRT2dyo8Pfo-00143-00046824-00047152 it's my variant yeah guys if you
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yguKHyT4Zqy-00000-00000079-00000638 tween scene october ceramic pumpkin box
yguKHyT4Zqy-00001-00000639-00000774 hi tweens
yguKHyT4Zqy-00002-00000775-00000991 today we're going to paint a ceramic
yguKHyT4Zqy-00003-00000992-00001135 pumpkin box and i'm just going to give
yguKHyT4Zqy-00004-00001136-00001278 you some tips for
yguKHyT4Zqy-00005-00001279-00001391 painting it because it's pretty
yguKHyT4Zqy-00006-00001392-00001798 straightforward
yguKHyT4Zqy-00007-00001800-00002118 in your kits you'll find a
yguKHyT4Zqy-00008-00002119-00002239 plastic wrap
yguKHyT4Zqy-00009-00002240-00002359 ceramic
yguKHyT4Zqy-00010-00002360-00002799 box shaped like a pumpkin
yguKHyT4Zqy-00011-00002800-00003047 you'll also have some orange paint some
yguKHyT4Zqy-00012-00003048-00003343 brown and green paint
yguKHyT4Zqy-00013-00003344-00003559 i put mine on a paper plate but you're
yguKHyT4Zqy-00014-00003560-00003735 welcome to
yguKHyT4Zqy-00015-00003736-00003870 um
yguKHyT4Zqy-00016-00003871-00004047 leave it in the pots you'll also have a
yguKHyT4Zqy-00017-00004047-00004406 brush and a couple of q-tips
yguKHyT4Zqy-00018-00004407-00004743 now this ceramic absorbs paint very
yguKHyT4Zqy-00019-00004744-00005015 quickly so
yguKHyT4Zqy-00020-00005016-00005254 it dries pretty quickly and you'll be
yguKHyT4Zqy-00021-00005255-00005583 able to
yguKHyT4Zqy-00022-00005584-00005735 complete this
yguKHyT4Zqy-00023-00005736-00005895 thing pretty fast
yguKHyT4Zqy-00024-00005896-00006159 and you should have enough paint to make
yguKHyT4Zqy-00025-00006160-00006247 a
yguKHyT4Zqy-00026-00006248-00006550 to do two layers if you want to
yguKHyT4Zqy-00027-00006551-00006831 so just using nice even strokes
yguKHyT4Zqy-00028-00006831-00007070 putting in the orange
yguKHyT4Zqy-00029-00007072-00007375 i'm trying to kind of hold this by
yguKHyT4Zqy-00030-00007376-00007646 the tip of the the
yguKHyT4Zqy-00031-00007647-00008119 stem for the pumpkin
yguKHyT4Zqy-00032-00008120-00008519 putting on a first coat here
yguKHyT4Zqy-00033-00008520-00008678 i'm not painting the bottom or the
yguKHyT4Zqy-00034-00008679-00008951 inside of my box
yguKHyT4Zqy-00035-00008952-00009103 but you're welcome to do that if you
yguKHyT4Zqy-00036-00009104-00009303 want it just i would wait
yguKHyT4Zqy-00037-00009304-00009519 and allow the outside to dry before you
yguKHyT4Zqy-00038-00009520-00010638 try to paint the inside
yguKHyT4Zqy-00039-00010639-00012567 he's going all the way around here
yguKHyT4Zqy-00040-00012568-00012855 i'm using the edge of my brush to
yguKHyT4Zqy-00041-00012856-00013079 get the edge of the
yguKHyT4Zqy-00042-00013080-00013935 top of the pumpkin there
yguKHyT4Zqy-00043-00013936-00014086 and trying not to get it all over my
yguKHyT4Zqy-00044-00014087-00014279 fingers
yguKHyT4Zqy-00045-00014280-00014822 which is always a challenge when i paint
yguKHyT4Zqy-00046-00014823-00015015 i like the foam brush for this because
yguKHyT4Zqy-00047-00015016-00015479 you're able to get edges pretty clean
yguKHyT4Zqy-00048-00015480-00015750 all right well that dries i'll work on
yguKHyT4Zqy-00049-00015751-00016022 the lid
yguKHyT4Zqy-00050-00016023-00016175 and again i'm just doing the top and
yguKHyT4Zqy-00051-00016176-00016327 sides of the lid i'm not doing the
yguKHyT4Zqy-00052-00016328-00016719 inside
yguKHyT4Zqy-00053-00016720-00016847 but you should have enough paint that
yguKHyT4Zqy-00054-00016848-00017047 you can go back and do the insides if
yguKHyT4Zqy-00055-00017048-00019127 you would like
yguKHyT4Zqy-00056-00019128-00019503 now pumpkins have kind of a
yguKHyT4Zqy-00057-00019504-00019743 brown green stem depending on the time
yguKHyT4Zqy-00058-00019744-00019958 of the year and how close to ripe you
yguKHyT4Zqy-00059-00019959-00020094 pick them
yguKHyT4Zqy-00060-00020095-00020271 so that's why i gave you some brown and
yguKHyT4Zqy-00061-00020272-00020422 green paint
yguKHyT4Zqy-00062-00020423-00020743 you can do one color or the other
yguKHyT4Zqy-00063-00020744-00020958 or you can kind of blend them to make a
yguKHyT4Zqy-00064-00020959-00021103 little layered look which is what i'm
yguKHyT4Zqy-00065-00021104-00021447 going to show you how to do
yguKHyT4Zqy-00066-00021448-00021822 all right so while those are drying
yguKHyT4Zqy-00067-00021823-00021950 i'm going to get started i'm going to
yguKHyT4Zqy-00068-00021951-00022391 use my q-tips to paint the stems because
yguKHyT4Zqy-00069-00022392-00022719 they're so tiny
yguKHyT4Zqy-00070-00022720-00022847 so i'm just
yguKHyT4Zqy-00071-00022848-00023007 starting with the green
yguKHyT4Zqy-00072-00023008-00023175 i'm just going to do a little layer of
yguKHyT4Zqy-00073-00023176-00023327 green
yguKHyT4Zqy-00074-00023328-00023471 and then once that's dry i'm going to go
yguKHyT4Zqy-00075-00023472-00023719 over it with some brown and kind of
yguKHyT4Zqy-00076-00023720-00023975 get it to streak
yguKHyT4Zqy-00077-00023976-00024175 so it looks like a more of a realistic
yguKHyT4Zqy-00078-00024176-00024927 stem
yguKHyT4Zqy-00079-00024928-00025183 if you need to you can kind of squish
yguKHyT4Zqy-00080-00025184-00025614 your q-tips um your cotton swabs
yguKHyT4Zqy-00081-00025616-00025806 end to make it a little flatter to get
yguKHyT4Zqy-00082-00025807-00026735 the edges a little bit better
yguKHyT4Zqy-00083-00026736-00026974 and if you get any paint on the orange
yguKHyT4Zqy-00084-00026975-00027135 part you can always go back and touch
yguKHyT4Zqy-00085-00027136-00027702 that up later
yguKHyT4Zqy-00086-00027704-00028087 you can see my lids almost already dry
yguKHyT4Zqy-00087-00028088-00028231 i'm able to pick it up without getting
yguKHyT4Zqy-00088-00028232-00029607 any orange all over my fingers
yguKHyT4Zqy-00089-00029608-00029879 if your q-tip n starts to get frayed
yguKHyT4Zqy-00090-00029880-00030127 then you can switch to the other side
yguKHyT4Zqy-00091-00030127-00030279 you shouldn't need more than two for
yguKHyT4Zqy-00092-00030280-00030639 this
yguKHyT4Zqy-00093-00030639-00031679 one for each color
yguKHyT4Zqy-00094-00031680-00032527 almost done with the green here
yguKHyT4Zqy-00095-00032527-00032951 a little bit in there
yguKHyT4Zqy-00096-00032952-00033271 all right
yguKHyT4Zqy-00097-00033272-00033999 now i'm going to get some of the brown
yguKHyT4Zqy-00098-00034000-00034207 that's pretty much dry
yguKHyT4Zqy-00099-00034208-00034351 so see what i mean about it drying
yguKHyT4Zqy-00100-00034352-00034527 pretty fast because i don't want to just
yguKHyT4Zqy-00101-00034528-00034702 completely overload it i'm just going to
yguKHyT4Zqy-00102-00034703-00034846 use a tissue
yguKHyT4Zqy-00103-00034847-00035095 and dab my
yguKHyT4Zqy-00104-00035096-00035431 brown on that first so that i can just
yguKHyT4Zqy-00105-00035432-00035679 kind of give it a little streak over the
yguKHyT4Zqy-00106-00035680-00035887 green so the green still shows through
yguKHyT4Zqy-00107-00035888-00036143 some
yguKHyT4Zqy-00108-00036144-00037655 so it looks more like a realistic stem
yguKHyT4Zqy-00109-00037656-00037895 so you can dab it on a tissue or paper
yguKHyT4Zqy-00110-00037896-00038183 towel or your paper plate
yguKHyT4Zqy-00111-00038184-00038390 so that you don't have a big clump of
yguKHyT4Zqy-00112-00038391-00038623 brown on your
yguKHyT4Zqy-00113-00038624-00039215 on your q-tip
yguKHyT4Zqy-00114-00039216-00039415 so this way i'll end up with a greenish
yguKHyT4Zqy-00116-00042488-00042751 see i'm just going to touch up any spots
yguKHyT4Zqy-00117-00042752-00042862 that
yguKHyT4Zqy-00118-00042863-00043239 i may have gotten
yguKHyT4Zqy-00119-00043240-00043607 other colors on
yguKHyT4Zqy-00120-00043608-00045239 it's got a lot of little green on there
yguKHyT4Zqy-00121-00045240-00046558 and just a little touch up on the lid
yguKHyT4Zqy-00122-00046559-00046990 there you go
yguKHyT4Zqy-00123-00046991-00047271 i hope you enjoyed painting your pumpkin
yguKHyT4Zqy-00124-00047272-00047671 box
yguKHyT4Zqy-00125-00047672-00047918 that's all for this month
yguKHyT4Zqy-00126-00047919-00048284 see you next time tweens
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yhs7LS4nAp4-00003-00001696-00001879 hello all of you
yhs7LS4nAp4-00004-00001880-00002223 i welcome you uh to today's lecture
yhs7LS4nAp4-00005-00002224-00002575 we discussed uh some aspect of uh
yhs7LS4nAp4-00006-00002576-00002966 cylin-based reducing agents last time
yhs7LS4nAp4-00007-00002967-00003327 we saw how xylene gas
yhs7LS4nAp4-00008-00003328-00003647 can be modified and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00009-00003647-00004054 different types of organic
yhs7LS4nAp4-00010-00004055-00004199 groups functional groups could be
yhs7LS4nAp4-00011-00004200-00004406 attached to silicon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00012-00004407-00004719 and different
yhs7LS4nAp4-00013-00004720-00005031 cylinder reagents can be prepared
yhs7LS4nAp4-00014-00005032-00005343 which are relatively more stable than
yhs7LS4nAp4-00015-00005344-00005502 the cylinder gas
yhs7LS4nAp4-00016-00005503-00005870 and these uh modified
yhs7LS4nAp4-00017-00005871-00006206 silane base reagents can reduce
yhs7LS4nAp4-00018-00006207-00006510 a number of functional groups ah and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00019-00006511-00006870 such as a carbonyl group or an ester
yhs7LS4nAp4-00020-00006872-00006910 group
yhs7LS4nAp4-00021-00006911-00007270 or or even halites which are
yhs7LS4nAp4-00022-00007272-00007678 capable of forming a carbocation so if
yhs7LS4nAp4-00023-00007679-00007774 we hand
yhs7LS4nAp4-00024-00007775-00007974 we have a possibility of generating a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00025-00007975-00008103 carbocation
yhs7LS4nAp4-00026-00008104-00008446 then the cylin-based reagents
yhs7LS4nAp4-00027-00008447-00008807 where there is one or two
yhs7LS4nAp4-00028-00008808-00009119 silence the hydrogens are present
yhs7LS4nAp4-00029-00009120-00009342 can lead to the formation of the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00030-00009343-00009495 corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00031-00009496-00009863 ah reduced product then
yhs7LS4nAp4-00032-00009864-00010167 we also saw how the rhodium
yhs7LS4nAp4-00033-00010168-00010503 modified reducing agents
yhs7LS4nAp4-00034-00010504-00010823 can be prepared and they lead to one
yhs7LS4nAp4-00035-00010824-00011142 two or one ah four
yhs7LS4nAp4-00036-00011143-00011455 addition of hydrogen and to an enone
yhs7LS4nAp4-00037-00011456-00011574 system
yhs7LS4nAp4-00038-00011575-00011903 and we can get either
yhs7LS4nAp4-00039-00011904-00012231 from an enone we can get either a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00040-00012232-00012559 one two product at a reduced product or
yhs7LS4nAp4-00041-00012560-00012879 a one four reduced product depending on
yhs7LS4nAp4-00042-00012880-00012958 the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00043-00012959-00013599 bulk of the corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00044-00013600-00013903 groups attached to silicon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00045-00013904-00014255 then towards the end we saw poly methyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00046-00014256-00014575 ah hydrocylene as
yhs7LS4nAp4-00047-00014576-00014886 pmhs ah which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00048-00014887-00015199 something that is like a polymer
yhs7LS4nAp4-00049-00015200-00015527 and therefore we can expect
yhs7LS4nAp4-00050-00015528-00015894 that such a polymeric molecule
yhs7LS4nAp4-00051-00015895-00016294 ah which is liquid to handle
yhs7LS4nAp4-00052-00016295-00016703 and is stable air stable and inexpensive
yhs7LS4nAp4-00053-00016704-00017071 and how can can be used in reducing
yhs7LS4nAp4-00054-00017072-00017422 various kinds of molecules ah similar
yhs7LS4nAp4-00055-00017423-00017799 to the silence that we discussed
yhs7LS4nAp4-00056-00017800-00018111 so of late if you see the literature
yhs7LS4nAp4-00057-00018112-00018414 many people prefer to use pmhs
yhs7LS4nAp4-00058-00018415-00018635 as a reducing agent rather than
yhs7LS4nAp4-00059-00018636-00018799 triathlon or
yhs7LS4nAp4-00060-00018800-00019103 other reducing agents of similar type
yhs7LS4nAp4-00061-00019104-00019455 now we see how these reactions occur
yhs7LS4nAp4-00062-00019456-00019750 ah for example if we if we take a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00063-00019751-00019886 carbonyl group
yhs7LS4nAp4-00064-00019887-00020207 then ah pmhs in the presence of t
yhs7LS4nAp4-00065-00020208-00020591 buff t buff is nothing but tetra n butyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00066-00020592-00021014 ammonium fluoride ah basically it has
yhs7LS4nAp4-00067-00021015-00021335 a fluoride ion and and a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00068-00021336-00021694 counter cation as an ammonium ion so ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00069-00021695-00021975 what is done it is is this is the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00070-00021976-00022207 species that you have here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00071-00022208-00022550 and and this is how the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00072-00022551-00022950 polymeric species of the pmhs
yhs7LS4nAp4-00073-00022951-00023255 is having a hydrogen
yhs7LS4nAp4-00074-00023256-00023558 in the middle and then the fluoride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00075-00023559-00023886 makes a kind of ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00076-00023887-00024222 pentavalent ah silicate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00077-00024223-00024558 and then what you have is ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00078-00024559-00024919 a possibility of transferring a hydrogen
yhs7LS4nAp4-00079-00024920-00025086 from this species
yhs7LS4nAp4-00080-00025087-00025399 to the carbonyl group so basically
yhs7LS4nAp4-00081-00025400-00025678 this is the modified species is which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00082-00025679-00025750 formed
yhs7LS4nAp4-00083-00025751-00026078 when the t buff interacts with the pmhs
yhs7LS4nAp4-00084-00026079-00026558 ah so the reduction occurs
yhs7LS4nAp4-00085-00026560-00026846 in a slightly different way than the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00086-00026847-00026895 normal
yhs7LS4nAp4-00087-00026895-00027207 reduction that we expect from ah normal
yhs7LS4nAp4-00088-00027208-00027318 silence
yhs7LS4nAp4-00089-00027319-00027702 where we first make the compound
yhs7LS4nAp4-00090-00027704-00027983 under acidic conditions and then we
yhs7LS4nAp4-00091-00027983-00028070 carry out
yhs7LS4nAp4-00092-00028072-00028367 the reduction ah in the similar fashion
yhs7LS4nAp4-00093-00028368-00028511 ah we can convert an
yhs7LS4nAp4-00094-00028512-00028831 ester to the corresponding alcohol
yhs7LS4nAp4-00095-00028832-00029223 if we use two equivalent of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00096-00029224-00029599 pmhs and a t buff and the anion which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00097-00029600-00029783 going to be formed after the carbonyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00098-00029783-00029911 group gets reduced
yhs7LS4nAp4-00099-00029912-00030223 so even gets ah reduction and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00100-00030224-00030702 get the corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00101-00030703-00031062 anion which then is protonated to form
yhs7LS4nAp4-00102-00031063-00031431 the corresponding o h so you have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00103-00031432-00031743 the to use a proton source
yhs7LS4nAp4-00104-00031744-00032102 later on during the next step
yhs7LS4nAp4-00105-00032103-00032318 now there is a another reducing agent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00106-00032319-00032607 which is called as strikers reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00107-00032608-00032959 and which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00108-00032960-00033318 having this copper hydride ah basically
yhs7LS4nAp4-00109-00033319-00033502 it is a hexameric
yhs7LS4nAp4-00110-00033503-00033779 copper hydride reagent ligated with
yhs7LS4nAp4-00111-00033780-00033911 triphenylphosphine
yhs7LS4nAp4-00112-00033912-00034231 so it is also called as osborne complex
yhs7LS4nAp4-00113-00034232-00034479 so this is a reducing agent now suddenly
yhs7LS4nAp4-00114-00034480-00034615 from silicon to
yhs7LS4nAp4-00115-00034616-00034918 this osborne complex or hexameric copper
yhs7LS4nAp4-00116-00034919-00035279 headed ah i am coming to mainly because
yhs7LS4nAp4-00117-00035280-00035574 this can also be prepared using ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00118-00035575-00035679 silene
yhs7LS4nAp4-00119-00035680-00035943 ah first let us see what is the utility
yhs7LS4nAp4-00120-00035944-00036111 or what is the use of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00121-00036112-00036502 such copper based
yhs7LS4nAp4-00122-00036503-00036895 complex it is a brick red air sensitive
yhs7LS4nAp4-00123-00036896-00037174 solid which is known as striker's
yhs7LS4nAp4-00124-00037175-00037279 reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00125-00037280-00037590 is mildly hydratic because you have here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00126-00037591-00037807 hydrogen there attached to copper and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00127-00037808-00037927 therefore
yhs7LS4nAp4-00128-00037928-00038183 it is useful because it is relatively
yhs7LS4nAp4-00129-00038184-00038271 soft
yhs7LS4nAp4-00130-00038272-00038511 because of the copper being present it
yhs7LS4nAp4-00131-00038512-00038727 is allows a conjugate reduction of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00132-00038728-00039151 unknowns ino h and related substrates
yhs7LS4nAp4-00133-00039152-00039446 different types so basically it allows
yhs7LS4nAp4-00134-00039447-00039583 conjugate addition
yhs7LS4nAp4-00135-00039584-00039887 of the hydrogen occurring the compound
yhs7LS4nAp4-00136-00039888-00040071 is prepared now this is where the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00137-00040072-00040351 silicon based things come into picture
yhs7LS4nAp4-00138-00040352-00040479 the compound is prepared by
yhs7LS4nAp4-00139-00040480-00040671 hydrogenation of copper
yhs7LS4nAp4-00140-00040672-00041007 ah tertiary beta oxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00141-00041008-00041302 generated in situ from copper chloride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00142-00041303-00041574 and sodium tertiary but oxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00143-00041575-00041983 that means this copper tertiary betoxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00144-00041984-00042287 is then hydrogenated and of course a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00145-00042288-00042462 triphenylphosphine has been has to be
yhs7LS4nAp4-00146-00042463-00042527 put
yhs7LS4nAp4-00147-00042528-00042727 then we get the corresponding osborne
yhs7LS4nAp4-00148-00042728-00043095 complex or the striker's reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00149-00043096-00043295 the reagent can affect regioselective
yhs7LS4nAp4-00150-00043296-00043487 conjugate addition of various carbon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00151-00043488-00043655 derivatives including
yhs7LS4nAp4-00152-00043656-00043918 unsaturated aldehydes ketones and esters
yhs7LS4nAp4-00153-00043919-00044062 which we already
yhs7LS4nAp4-00154-00044063-00044374 seen that we can have of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00155-00044375-00044687 any kind of unsaturated system
yhs7LS4nAp4-00156-00044688-00044935 where the reduction occurs at this end
yhs7LS4nAp4-00157-00044936-00045079 of the double bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00158-00045080-00045335 this was declared as the reagent of the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00159-00045336-00045399 year
yhs7LS4nAp4-00160-00045400-00045718 in 1991 as it could tolerate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00161-00045719-00045958 different types of functional groups
yhs7LS4nAp4-00162-00045959-00046079 tolerance
yhs7LS4nAp4-00163-00046080-00046367 high overall efficiency mild reaction
yhs7LS4nAp4-00164-00046368-00046462 conditions
yhs7LS4nAp4-00165-00046463-00046758 in the reduction reactions so how it is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00166-00046759-00047030 very easy to carry out such a reduction
yhs7LS4nAp4-00167-00047031-00047343 therefore ah it is it tolerates
yhs7LS4nAp4-00168-00047344-00047486 various functional groups and therefore
yhs7LS4nAp4-00169-00047487-00047671 it is of great use
yhs7LS4nAp4-00170-00047672-00047951 now this is used in catalytic amount the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00171-00047952-00048127 you can use the striker's agent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00172-00048128-00048302 in a catalytic amount where it is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00173-00048303-00048495 regenerated
yhs7LS4nAp4-00174-00048496-00048751 in the reaction and you can use some
yhs7LS4nAp4-00175-00048752-00048855 other source
yhs7LS4nAp4-00176-00048856-00049215 of hydride in a stoichiometric way
yhs7LS4nAp4-00177-00049216-00049518 and in that respect ah either
yhs7LS4nAp4-00178-00049519-00049862 use molecular hydrogen or
yhs7LS4nAp4-00179-00049863-00050167 even silence that is where the xylene
yhs7LS4nAp4-00180-00050168-00050279 part comes in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00181-00050280-00050567 so this is very important that you can
yhs7LS4nAp4-00182-00050568-00050871 modify the striker's reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00183-00050872-00051183 by basically using in a catalytic amount
yhs7LS4nAp4-00184-00051184-00051542 and reusing along with that silence or
yhs7LS4nAp4-00185-00051544-00051750 molecular hydrogen so obviously
yhs7LS4nAp4-00186-00051751-00052038 when you have to have a choice between
yhs7LS4nAp4-00187-00052039-00052214 molecular hydrogen and xylene
yhs7LS4nAp4-00188-00052215-00052550 you might want to have silence ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00189-00052551-00052911 over hydrogen if it is stored under
yhs7LS4nAp4-00190-00052912-00053230 ah inert atmosphere for example argon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00191-00053232-00053647 nitrogen it has indefinite shelf life
yhs7LS4nAp4-00192-00053648-00053887 ah although brief exposure to the oxygen
yhs7LS4nAp4-00193-00053888-00054054 does not destroy its activity
yhs7LS4nAp4-00194-00054055-00054359 significantly but solvents used
yhs7LS4nAp4-00195-00054360-00054591 with striker should be rigorously
yhs7LS4nAp4-00196-00054591-00054687 degassed
yhs7LS4nAp4-00197-00054688-00055047 to remove oxygen so ah oxygen has to be
yhs7LS4nAp4-00198-00055048-00055159 removed
yhs7LS4nAp4-00199-00055160-00055599 now how it is made is that you take this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00200-00055600-00055926 copper tertiary but oxide and use
yhs7LS4nAp4-00201-00055927-00056126 excessive tripoli phosphine
yhs7LS4nAp4-00202-00056127-00056359 in the presence of hydrogen in the in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00203-00056360-00056647 benzene solvent it gives this hexameric
yhs7LS4nAp4-00204-00056648-00057007 osborne complex or strikers reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00205-00057008-00057359 when this striker's reagent reacts with
yhs7LS4nAp4-00206-00057360-00057694 an enone ah hydrogen is transferred
yhs7LS4nAp4-00207-00057695-00058054 on to this end of the double bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00208-00058055-00058391 and as one can expect that we can have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00209-00058391-00058607 an intermediate of this type
yhs7LS4nAp4-00210-00058608-00059047 in all cube rate and this inoculate upon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00211-00059048-00059375 this reduction you will will
yhs7LS4nAp4-00212-00059376-00059687 break the oxygen copper bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00213-00059688-00059935 and of course you regenerate the the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00214-00059936-00060159 catalyst here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00215-00060160-00060511 and you have the enol
yhs7LS4nAp4-00216-00060512-00060759 and that enol gives the product ketone
yhs7LS4nAp4-00217-00060760-00060871 so basically
yhs7LS4nAp4-00218-00060872-00061238 this is how the catalyst is used
yhs7LS4nAp4-00219-00061239-00061542 where now molecular hydrogen is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00220-00061544-00061815 used as a in a stoichiometric way
yhs7LS4nAp4-00221-00061816-00061919 essentially
yhs7LS4nAp4-00222-00061920-00062206 to cleave the oxygen copper bond here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00223-00062207-00062238 and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00224-00062239-00062526 regenerate the osborne complex or the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00225-00062527-00062711 strikers reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00226-00062712-00063094 and the reduced product the ketone
yhs7LS4nAp4-00227-00063095-00063550 is ah formed now unactivated carbon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00228-00063551-00063863 carbon double bonds are not reduced so
yhs7LS4nAp4-00229-00063864-00063975 if you have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00230-00063976-00064287 ah something like this here a molecule
yhs7LS4nAp4-00231-00064288-00064679 ah of this kind and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00232-00064679-00065015 you also have both the possibilities
yhs7LS4nAp4-00233-00065016-00065159 you have a simple double bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00234-00065160-00065319 unconjugated double bond and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00235-00065320-00065599 of course the conjugated double bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00236-00065600-00065726 with ah with the carbon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00237-00065727-00065967 group only this will get reduced at this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00238-00065968-00066223 center so it is a very useful reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00239-00066224-00066694 and since it can be used only um
yhs7LS4nAp4-00240-00066695-00066926 catalytically you know if you one wants
yhs7LS4nAp4-00241-00066927-00067167 to use in stoichiometric way we can do
yhs7LS4nAp4-00242-00067168-00067238 that but
yhs7LS4nAp4-00243-00067239-00067503 also catheteric way and now there have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00244-00067504-00067719 been many studies in which
yhs7LS4nAp4-00245-00067720-00067926 different types of silence that have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00246-00067927-00068055 been utilized
yhs7LS4nAp4-00247-00068056-00068455 for the reduction of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00248-00068456-00068799 this particular complex in such a way
yhs7LS4nAp4-00249-00068800-00069079 to form the striker's reagent so in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00250-00069080-00069303 order to form the cycle reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00251-00069304-00069494 when the copper chloride potassium
yhs7LS4nAp4-00252-00069495-00069615 tertiary petoxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00253-00069616-00069959 typhenyl phosphine and the silane that
yhs7LS4nAp4-00254-00069960-00070167 is used so this silene is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00255-00070168-00070455 is used in 1.2 equivalent so the ratio
yhs7LS4nAp4-00256-00070456-00070479 is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00257-00070480-00070750 shown here so if you have 1 is to 1 is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00258-00070751-00070871 to 1
yhs7LS4nAp4-00259-00070872-00071135 is to 1.2 that means xylene is used as
yhs7LS4nAp4-00260-00071136-00071231 1.2
yhs7LS4nAp4-00261-00071232-00071438 then they kept on modifying and you see
yhs7LS4nAp4-00262-00071439-00071767 the effect of that on the yield
yhs7LS4nAp4-00263-00071768-00072159 so if you have a pmhs ah in this ratio
yhs7LS4nAp4-00264-00072160-00072550 of uh different reagents then you get 47
yhs7LS4nAp4-00265-00072551-00072791 percent and you see the best one is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00266-00072792-00073167 here one is to 1 is to 2 is to 2
yhs7LS4nAp4-00267-00073168-00073479 as ratios then you get 82 percent yield
yhs7LS4nAp4-00268-00073480-00073503 and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00269-00073504-00073831 one can also see that you can get 88
yhs7LS4nAp4-00270-00073832-00074199 of this when you use this dimethyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00271-00074200-00074262 phenyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00272-00074263-00074479 xylene so there are several
yhs7LS4nAp4-00273-00074480-00074599 possibilities
yhs7LS4nAp4-00274-00074600-00074887 of this type where you can use different
yhs7LS4nAp4-00275-00074888-00074959 ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00276-00074960-00075262 xylene based reducing agents
yhs7LS4nAp4-00277-00075263-00075599 where instead of using ah molecular
yhs7LS4nAp4-00278-00075600-00075919 hydrogen one can use these and form the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00279-00075920-00076023 corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00280-00076024-00076271 striker's region so it is very clear
yhs7LS4nAp4-00281-00076272-00076455 that we can take a catalytic amount of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00282-00076456-00076494 this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00283-00076495-00076911 and also use any one of these silence
yhs7LS4nAp4-00284-00076912-00077150 as stoichiometric reagents and these
yhs7LS4nAp4-00285-00077151-00077326 reactions are generally performed in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00286-00077327-00077503 benzene or toluene
yhs7LS4nAp4-00287-00077504-00077799 and they allow reductions to take place
yhs7LS4nAp4-00288-00077800-00077871 in a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00289-00077872-00078175 conjugated fashion
yhs7LS4nAp4-00290-00078176-00078526 now we see how this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00291-00078527-00078894 silence can act as reactions
yhs7LS4nAp4-00292-00078895-00079199 you know as as in in reactions
yhs7LS4nAp4-00293-00079200-00079519 where radicals are involved in addition
yhs7LS4nAp4-00294-00079520-00079862 to their function as a hydride donor
yhs7LS4nAp4-00295-00079863-00080271 silence also may act as radical hydrogen
yhs7LS4nAp4-00296-00080272-00080431 donors
yhs7LS4nAp4-00297-00080432-00080655 in this role they can substitute for the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00298-00080656-00080799 toxic reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00299-00080800-00081206 ah tribe and butyl tin hydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00300-00081207-00081559 ah before we proceed further ah various
yhs7LS4nAp4-00301-00081560-00081791 kinds of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00302-00081792-00081975 radical based reactions have been
yhs7LS4nAp4-00303-00081976-00082191 carried out ah particularly
yhs7LS4nAp4-00304-00082192-00082487 reduction so if one wants to carry out a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00305-00082488-00082582 reduction
yhs7LS4nAp4-00306-00082583-00082894 say for example of ah br
yhs7LS4nAp4-00307-00082895-00083159 here and if you want to carry out
yhs7LS4nAp4-00308-00083160-00083255 reduction
yhs7LS4nAp4-00309-00083256-00083606 to form h here what is used is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00310-00083607-00084006 is tributyl tin hydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00311-00084007-00084391 as a reagent as a hydrogen source
yhs7LS4nAp4-00312-00084392-00084647 in the presence of something called as a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00313-00084648-00084799 i b n
yhs7LS4nAp4-00314-00084800-00085103 a i b n which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00315-00085104-00085415 azo isobutyronitrile which looks like
yhs7LS4nAp4-00316-00085416-00085479 this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00317-00085480-00085782 so you have here ah cn
yhs7LS4nAp4-00318-00085783-00086111 then you have this particular azo group
yhs7LS4nAp4-00319-00086112-00086462 and then you have here cn so this is how
yhs7LS4nAp4-00320-00086463-00086706 this is what is called as azo
yhs7LS4nAp4-00321-00086707-00086894 isobutyronite which will
yhs7LS4nAp4-00322-00086895-00087135 discuss it later on so these two
yhs7LS4nAp4-00323-00087136-00087311 combinations by heating
yhs7LS4nAp4-00324-00087312-00087599 allow such a reduction to take place and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00325-00087600-00087759 there are many other
yhs7LS4nAp4-00326-00087760-00088015 reactions that occur using but in these
yhs7LS4nAp4-00327-00088016-00088111 cases
yhs7LS4nAp4-00328-00088112-00088423 the hydrogen source is basically
yhs7LS4nAp4-00329-00088424-00088599 tributal tin hydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00330-00088600-00088894 and this is what is considered to be a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00331-00088895-00089047 toxic reagent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00332-00089048-00089359 it is also when the reaction occurs with
yhs7LS4nAp4-00333-00089360-00089406 this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00334-00089407-00089735 tribetyl tin hydride the byproduct
yhs7LS4nAp4-00335-00089736-00090062 which is formed is tri butyl tin oxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00336-00090063-00090399 or other tin based products
yhs7LS4nAp4-00337-00090400-00090694 which are very difficult to remove from
yhs7LS4nAp4-00338-00090695-00090806 the reaction
yhs7LS4nAp4-00339-00090807-00091111 and create problems ah in during the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00340-00091112-00091462 workup of the reaction so in that
yhs7LS4nAp4-00341-00091463-00091591 respect
yhs7LS4nAp4-00342-00091592-00091891 people have tried to use ah tris
yhs7LS4nAp4-00343-00091892-00092094 trimethylsilyl xylene
yhs7LS4nAp4-00344-00092095-00092399 ah of this type ttms
yhs7LS4nAp4-00345-00092400-00092703 or tetraphenyl disiding ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00346-00092704-00093006 of of this type
yhs7LS4nAp4-00347-00093007-00093399 ah tetraphenyl dicident of this type
yhs7LS4nAp4-00348-00093400-00093774 so ah these two reagents have been
yhs7LS4nAp4-00349-00093775-00094023 used in many places where people want to
yhs7LS4nAp4-00350-00094024-00094135 carry out
yhs7LS4nAp4-00351-00094136-00094391 radical based reactions radical base
yhs7LS4nAp4-00352-00094392-00094567 reactions have their own
yhs7LS4nAp4-00353-00094568-00094815 utility not only reductions but they
yhs7LS4nAp4-00354-00094816-00094950 allow also
yhs7LS4nAp4-00355-00094951-00095247 c c bond formations to take place when
yhs7LS4nAp4-00356-00095248-00095294 ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00357-00095295-00095726 radicals are invoked as intermediates
yhs7LS4nAp4-00358-00095727-00096031 now this ah hydrogen transfer
yhs7LS4nAp4-00359-00096032-00096343 agents in radical reactions need a low
yhs7LS4nAp4-00360-00096344-00096647 mh bond dissociation energy
yhs7LS4nAp4-00361-00096648-00096959 obviously because ah we
yhs7LS4nAp4-00362-00096960-00097191 need to do these reactions not at very
yhs7LS4nAp4-00363-00097192-00097335 high temperature
yhs7LS4nAp4-00364-00097336-00097606 so compare with the tin hydrogen
yhs7LS4nAp4-00365-00097607-00097782 dissociation energy of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00366-00097783-00098103 tribulation hydride which requires 74
yhs7LS4nAp4-00367-00098104-00098415 kilo calories per mole the silicon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00368-00098416-00098743 hydrogen dissociate energy of ttms is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00369-00098744-00099111 is approximately 79. so it is very close
yhs7LS4nAp4-00370-00099112-00099382 ah which together with that of tbds
yhs7LS4nAp4-00371-00099383-00099471 which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00372-00099472-00099959 ah is significantly lower
yhs7LS4nAp4-00373-00099960-00100271 than that of triethyl cylin so
yhs7LS4nAp4-00374-00100272-00100623 if we compare the reducing ability
yhs7LS4nAp4-00375-00100624-00101047 of this versus cetal saline
yhs7LS4nAp4-00376-00101048-00101399 so the dietal saline based uh
yhs7LS4nAp4-00377-00101400-00101759 reagent requires high energy
yhs7LS4nAp4-00378-00101760-00102150 that is the reason why this ttms
yhs7LS4nAp4-00379-00102151-00102471 test trimethylsilane or tb
yhs7LS4nAp4-00380-00102472-00102775 ds that is tetra phenyl disilane
yhs7LS4nAp4-00381-00102776-00103118 is used now what does happen is that if
yhs7LS4nAp4-00382-00103119-00103199 you take
yhs7LS4nAp4-00383-00103200-00103534 an rx where x is a halide for example
yhs7LS4nAp4-00384-00103535-00103766 and if you use ttms in the presence of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00385-00103767-00103951 benzoyl peroxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00386-00103952-00104358 then you generate r dot from here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00387-00104359-00104647 and basically what is happening is that
yhs7LS4nAp4-00388-00104648-00104815 benzoyl peroxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00389-00104816-00105199 ah which is benzoyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00390-00105200-00105527 peroxide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00391-00105528-00105863 or we can write it something like this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00392-00105864-00106247 you have o o c o phenyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00393-00106248-00106495 when this is heated it eventually breaks
yhs7LS4nAp4-00394-00106496-00106654 to phenyl radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00395-00106655-00106983 or phenyl c o
yhs7LS4nAp4-00396-00106983-00107295 or radical but eventually it forms this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00397-00107296-00107454 phenyl radical which
yhs7LS4nAp4-00398-00107455-00107839 can take the the x from there
yhs7LS4nAp4-00399-00107840-00108239 so you have here r x that leads
yhs7LS4nAp4-00400-00108240-00108615 to the formation of r dot plus p h
yhs7LS4nAp4-00401-00108616-00108943 x here so this is how
yhs7LS4nAp4-00402-00108944-00109134 one possibility can be the other
yhs7LS4nAp4-00403-00109135-00109343 possibility is that here p h
yhs7LS4nAp4-00404-00109344-00109727 dot takes the hydrogen from the silicon
yhs7LS4nAp4-00405-00109728-00110047 of the p m h s of this t t
yhs7LS4nAp4-00406-00110048-00110351 m s and form p h h
yhs7LS4nAp4-00407-00110352-00110695 and t m s t t m s
yhs7LS4nAp4-00408-00110696-00111031 or t t m s dot
yhs7LS4nAp4-00409-00111032-00111439 so and therefore this ah the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00410-00111440-00111743 t t m s dot can ah of course
yhs7LS4nAp4-00411-00111744-00112102 react with r x to form r and then the r
yhs7LS4nAp4-00412-00112103-00112254 will react with the remaining
yhs7LS4nAp4-00413-00112255-00112615 ttms to form rh and ttm radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00414-00112616-00112847 this ttm radical will take the x from
yhs7LS4nAp4-00415-00112848-00112927 here and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00416-00112928-00113158 regenerate r dot so essentially what is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00417-00113159-00113271 happening is that
yhs7LS4nAp4-00418-00113272-00113599 benzoyl peroxide initiates the reaction
yhs7LS4nAp4-00419-00113600-00113919 to generate a ttms radical or ttm
yhs7LS4nAp4-00420-00113920-00114007 radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00421-00114008-00114310 that takes the x from there generate r
yhs7LS4nAp4-00422-00114311-00114495 dot and the remaining
yhs7LS4nAp4-00423-00114496-00114815 ttms then reacts with the r dot
yhs7LS4nAp4-00424-00114816-00115166 to get to the product which is rh
yhs7LS4nAp4-00425-00115167-00115439 and then regenerate the ttm radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00426-00115440-00115486 which
yhs7LS4nAp4-00427-00115488-00115839 re reacts with the rx to generate r dot
yhs7LS4nAp4-00428-00115840-00116271 this is how the reaction keeps on ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00429-00116272-00116647 taking place now there is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00430-00116648-00116943 another reaction which is called biotin
yhs7LS4nAp4-00431-00116944-00117023 mecombi
yhs7LS4nAp4-00432-00117024-00117390 reaction or biotin deoxygenation its a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00433-00117391-00117686 method for the deoxygenation of alcohols
yhs7LS4nAp4-00434-00117688-00117719 so
yhs7LS4nAp4-00435-00117720-00118102 if we have an alcohol of this type
yhs7LS4nAp4-00436-00118103-00118415 ah we can convert into a thiocarbonyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00437-00118416-00118551 derivative
yhs7LS4nAp4-00438-00118552-00118886 ah which is how it looks like
yhs7LS4nAp4-00439-00118888-00119183 and then that can be reacted with
yhs7LS4nAp4-00440-00119183-00119366 triability anhydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00441-00119367-00119671 ah under conditions
yhs7LS4nAp4-00442-00119672-00119975 of similar type where we use triability
yhs7LS4nAp4-00443-00119976-00120110 anhydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00444-00120111-00120414 and s a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00445-00120415-00120854 i b n which i discussed as a earlier
yhs7LS4nAp4-00446-00120855-00121071 and it allows the formation of the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00447-00121072-00121214 corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00448-00121215-00121575 ah deoxygenated product
yhs7LS4nAp4-00449-00121576-00121727 once the radical chain has been
yhs7LS4nAp4-00450-00121728-00121934 initiated attack on the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00451-00121935-00122310 tribal tin carrier by sulphur
yhs7LS4nAp4-00452-00122311-00122607 initiates decomposition yielding the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00453-00122608-00122695 alkyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00454-00122696-00123039 radical for which this serves as
yhs7LS4nAp4-00455-00123040-00123254 hydrogen radical donor
yhs7LS4nAp4-00456-00123255-00123663 we will see how the reaction takes place
yhs7LS4nAp4-00457-00123664-00123951 this is what is azo base isobutyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00458-00123952-00124102 nitrile
yhs7LS4nAp4-00459-00124103-00124414 where as you when you heat it it
yhs7LS4nAp4-00460-00124415-00124743 breaks homolytically from here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00461-00124744-00125071 to form this particular radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00462-00125072-00125254 intermediate and the nitrogen
yhs7LS4nAp4-00463-00125255-00125607 goes off from the reaction when this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00464-00125608-00125902 ah radical reacts with the triability
yhs7LS4nAp4-00465-00125903-00126047 anhydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00466-00126048-00126358 in a similar fashion ah as we discussed
yhs7LS4nAp4-00467-00126359-00126502 earlier that
yhs7LS4nAp4-00468-00126503-00126710 the benzoyl peroxide gives a phenyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00469-00126711-00126934 radical that reacts with the ttms to
yhs7LS4nAp4-00470-00126935-00127023 form
yhs7LS4nAp4-00471-00127024-00127247 the corresponding radical so similarly
yhs7LS4nAp4-00472-00127248-00127463 this tribulation hydride reacts
yhs7LS4nAp4-00473-00127464-00127807 to form this particular triability in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00474-00127808-00127951 radical and of course
yhs7LS4nAp4-00475-00127952-00128239 this radical will couple with the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00476-00128240-00128358 hydrogen dot
yhs7LS4nAp4-00477-00128359-00128678 and will go away now this stability in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00478-00128679-00128807 radical then reacts
yhs7LS4nAp4-00479-00128808-00129183 with the ah the thio carbonyl compound
yhs7LS4nAp4-00480-00129183-00129543 in this particular fashion in this way
yhs7LS4nAp4-00481-00129544-00129783 and generates an intermediate of this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00482-00129783-00129895 kind where
yhs7LS4nAp4-00483-00129896-00130199 r one is omethyl if r one
yhs7LS4nAp4-00484-00130200-00130631 is o methyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00485-00130632-00130983 now this decomposes in this fashion
yhs7LS4nAp4-00486-00130983-00131319 here like this and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00487-00131320-00131631 forms this as a by-product
yhs7LS4nAp4-00488-00131632-00131887 and then you generate a radical of this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00489-00131888-00131943 kind
yhs7LS4nAp4-00490-00131944-00132190 this radical then reacts further with
yhs7LS4nAp4-00491-00132191-00132343 tribality anhydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00492-00132344-00132639 generating this reduced product and you
yhs7LS4nAp4-00493-00132640-00132854 generated the same tribulating radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00494-00132855-00133087 which was generated here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00495-00133088-00133414 so it is exactly similar to what we saw
yhs7LS4nAp4-00496-00133415-00133711 where ttms and benzoyl peroxide was used
yhs7LS4nAp4-00497-00133712-00133839 instead of benzoyl
yhs7LS4nAp4-00498-00133840-00134151 peroxide here we are using aibn which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00499-00134152-00134439 generating a radical like this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00500-00134440-00134766 so the driving force ah of course here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00501-00134767-00134854 you
yhs7LS4nAp4-00502-00134855-00135127 take the radical form here and then you
yhs7LS4nAp4-00503-00135128-00135519 generate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00504-00135520-00135695 this type left in radical the driving
yhs7LS4nAp4-00505-00135696-00135847 force for the reaction is the formation
yhs7LS4nAp4-00506-00135848-00135919 of the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00507-00135920-00136231 stable sulfur tin bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00508-00136232-00136399 ah the main disadvantage of this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00509-00136400-00136566 reaction the only problem that with this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00510-00136567-00136727 reaction is the as i
yhs7LS4nAp4-00511-00136728-00137054 ah did i mentioned is the use of this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00512-00137055-00137383 tributary tin based molecules which is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00513-00137384-00137535 difficult to
yhs7LS4nAp4-00514-00137536-00137887 remove and toxic expensive and so there
yhs7LS4nAp4-00515-00137888-00138102 are problems and that is the reason why
yhs7LS4nAp4-00516-00138103-00138359 some modifications have been carried out
yhs7LS4nAp4-00517-00138360-00138575 an alternative is to replace
yhs7LS4nAp4-00518-00138576-00139014 tin reagents with silane base reagents
yhs7LS4nAp4-00519-00139015-00139335 a few examples of reactions are
yhs7LS4nAp4-00520-00139336-00139647 shown here which exhibit
yhs7LS4nAp4-00521-00139648-00139895 similar reactivity as tribulatine
yhs7LS4nAp4-00522-00139896-00140031 hydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00523-00140032-00140535 in a variety of radical reactions
yhs7LS4nAp4-00524-00140536-00140735 an example of the barton recombina
yhs7LS4nAp4-00525-00140736-00140871 deoxygenation
yhs7LS4nAp4-00526-00140872-00141254 reaction using tetraphenyl disiline that
yhs7LS4nAp4-00527-00141255-00141366 is tpds
yhs7LS4nAp4-00528-00141367-00141719 whose structure is here as shown now
yhs7LS4nAp4-00529-00141720-00142095 tbds is a better
yhs7LS4nAp4-00530-00142096-00142439 reagent than tributain hydride not only
yhs7LS4nAp4-00531-00142440-00142687 in terms of toxicity but also it gives
yhs7LS4nAp4-00532-00142688-00142847 better yield
yhs7LS4nAp4-00533-00142848-00143078 so if we take an example of this kind
yhs7LS4nAp4-00534-00143079-00143319 which is sugar derived xanthate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00535-00143320-00143623 then with tpds aibn combination in
yhs7LS4nAp4-00536-00143624-00143814 reflexing ethyl acetate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00537-00143815-00144039 the deoxygenation leads to the formation
yhs7LS4nAp4-00538-00144040-00144311 of this particular product
yhs7LS4nAp4-00539-00144312-00144678 now not only xanthates can be
yhs7LS4nAp4-00540-00144679-00144914 reduced to the corresponding uh
yhs7LS4nAp4-00541-00144915-00145095 deoxygenated product
yhs7LS4nAp4-00542-00145096-00145302 but it is also possible to generate a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00543-00145303-00145423 radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00544-00145424-00145719 uh if we have a halide carbon halide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00545-00145720-00145814 bond can be
yhs7LS4nAp4-00546-00145815-00146087 cleaved to the corresponding radical as
yhs7LS4nAp4-00547-00146088-00146231 it is shown here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00548-00146232-00146454 so if we start with a brominated
yhs7LS4nAp4-00549-00146455-00146623 molecule like this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00550-00146624-00146935 and react with tpds aibn combination
yhs7LS4nAp4-00551-00146936-00147159 in reflexing ethyl acetate what we first
yhs7LS4nAp4-00552-00147160-00147447 generate is of course this radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00553-00147448-00147919 if this double bond was not present
yhs7LS4nAp4-00554-00147920-00148135 then of course this radical would have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00555-00148136-00148335 taken hydrogen and then
yhs7LS4nAp4-00556-00148336-00148519 we could have got the correspondingly
yhs7LS4nAp4-00557-00148520-00148663 reduced product
yhs7LS4nAp4-00558-00148664-00148926 however since there is a properly
yhs7LS4nAp4-00559-00148927-00149023 oriented
yhs7LS4nAp4-00560-00149024-00149311 double bond which is present in the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00561-00149312-00149407 molecule
yhs7LS4nAp4-00562-00149408-00149699 therefore this radical undergoes
yhs7LS4nAp4-00563-00149700-00149883 intramolecular
yhs7LS4nAp4-00564-00149884-00150287 cyclization to form uh this type of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00565-00150288-00150631 bicyclic molecule so it is also possible
yhs7LS4nAp4-00566-00150632-00150990 not only that we can reduce the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00567-00150991-00151343 carbon halide bond but also we can allow
yhs7LS4nAp4-00568-00151344-00151647 the radical to undergo intramolecular
yhs7LS4nAp4-00569-00151648-00151766 cyclization
yhs7LS4nAp4-00570-00151767-00152014 so this kind of cc bond formations are
yhs7LS4nAp4-00571-00152015-00152078 also
yhs7LS4nAp4-00572-00152079-00152463 possible and thus tetra phenyl disillin
yhs7LS4nAp4-00573-00152464-00152599 or similar types of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00574-00152600-00152951 cylon reagents make a better alternative
yhs7LS4nAp4-00575-00152952-00153007 than the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00576-00153008-00153447 tribalist anhydride we can also
yhs7LS4nAp4-00577-00153448-00153854 use this type of substrates
yhs7LS4nAp4-00578-00153855-00154295 where we have this ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00579-00154296-00154687 particular ah reagent this is ttms
yhs7LS4nAp4-00580-00154688-00155023 and aibn and of course here base this is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00581-00155024-00155102 like a
yhs7LS4nAp4-00582-00155103-00155447 ah different types of nucleic
yhs7LS4nAp4-00583-00155448-00155775 bases and we can then
yhs7LS4nAp4-00584-00155776-00156078 have two radicals that are going to form
yhs7LS4nAp4-00585-00156079-00156399 one here and one here they couple
yhs7LS4nAp4-00586-00156400-00156663 or they form the corresponding double
yhs7LS4nAp4-00587-00156664-00156743 bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00588-00156744-00156902 so radical base transformation of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00589-00156903-00157143 vicinal diols to olefins
yhs7LS4nAp4-00590-00157144-00157302 this is this can come from the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00591-00157303-00157471 corresponding diol
yhs7LS4nAp4-00592-00157472-00157790 via thio oxo
yhs7LS4nAp4-00593-00157791-00158166 carbamate derivative and that leads to
yhs7LS4nAp4-00594-00158167-00158414 the formation of this so you can start
yhs7LS4nAp4-00595-00158415-00158551 with the corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00596-00158552-00158783 sugar based molecule and carry out the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00597-00158784-00158951 reaction which has been published
yhs7LS4nAp4-00598-00158952-00159278 in 2003 now another alternative
yhs7LS4nAp4-00599-00159279-00159647 is the use of the catalytic amount of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00600-00159648-00160007 tributary tin oxide ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00601-00160008-00160287 approximately 7.5 percent as the radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00602-00160288-00160375 source
yhs7LS4nAp4-00603-00160376-00160719 and poly methyl hydrocyloxane pmhs as
yhs7LS4nAp4-00604-00160720-00160878 the hydrogen source
yhs7LS4nAp4-00605-00160879-00161126 now what is done is that the substrate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00606-00161127-00161351 which is a hydroxy compound
yhs7LS4nAp4-00607-00161352-00161578 can be a converted to the corresponding
yhs7LS4nAp4-00608-00161579-00161759 thionocarbonate derivative
yhs7LS4nAp4-00609-00161760-00162063 like this by reacting with the
yhs7LS4nAp4-00610-00162064-00162495 phenyl chlorothio no formate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00611-00162496-00162766 like this in the presence of pyridine
yhs7LS4nAp4-00612-00162767-00162911 and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00613-00162912-00163314 we can react then this particular
yhs7LS4nAp4-00614-00163315-00163690 thionocarbonate derivative with
yhs7LS4nAp4-00615-00163691-00163990 tributyltinoxide in the presence of pmhs
yhs7LS4nAp4-00616-00163991-00164183 and of course aibn
yhs7LS4nAp4-00617-00164184-00164495 but the solvent and butanol is a very
yhs7LS4nAp4-00618-00164496-00164631 important solvent
yhs7LS4nAp4-00619-00164632-00164943 and a mixture of n-butanol and toluene
yhs7LS4nAp4-00620-00164944-00165031 is used
yhs7LS4nAp4-00621-00165032-00165199 and it is reflux in that particular
yhs7LS4nAp4-00622-00165200-00165407 medium to form this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00623-00165408-00165735 deoxygenated product now
yhs7LS4nAp4-00624-00165736-00166047 what happens is you get
yhs7LS4nAp4-00625-00166048-00166423 a side product as this carbonyl sulphide
yhs7LS4nAp4-00626-00166424-00166535 which is a gas
yhs7LS4nAp4-00627-00166536-00166775 which goes away and of course we get
yhs7LS4nAp4-00628-00166776-00166847 this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00629-00166848-00167326 uh phenoxy tributary thin derivative
yhs7LS4nAp4-00630-00167327-00167743 so uh this tributary tin oxide actually
yhs7LS4nAp4-00631-00167744-00167943 reacts with pmhs
yhs7LS4nAp4-00632-00167944-00168271 at 80 degrees in n-butanol
yhs7LS4nAp4-00633-00168272-00168566 to release the tributary anhydride and
yhs7LS4nAp4-00634-00168567-00168654 that is what
yhs7LS4nAp4-00635-00168655-00168990 is basically reacting here in this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00636-00168991-00169102 particular stage
yhs7LS4nAp4-00637-00169103-00169351 in the presence of aibn to generate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00638-00169352-00169519 tributary kin radical
yhs7LS4nAp4-00639-00169520-00169743 which of course interacts with this
yhs7LS4nAp4-00640-00169744-00169935 thiono carbonate
yhs7LS4nAp4-00641-00169936-00170326 and leads to the deoxygenation
yhs7LS4nAp4-00642-00170327-00170671 now this byproduct which is phenoxy
yhs7LS4nAp4-00643-00170672-00170943 tributary tin derivative then reacts
yhs7LS4nAp4-00644-00170944-00171302 with pmhs again
yhs7LS4nAp4-00645-00171303-00171638 at 80 degrees in n-butanol and releases
yhs7LS4nAp4-00646-00171639-00171783 stability anhydride
yhs7LS4nAp4-00647-00171784-00172023 and of course there will be silane
yhs7LS4nAp4-00648-00172024-00172223 derivative here
yhs7LS4nAp4-00649-00172224-00172575 so this is how the reaction uh is
yhs7LS4nAp4-00650-00172576-00172999 perceived and it gives an alternative
yhs7LS4nAp4-00651-00173000-00173438 to the use of a stoichiometric amount of
yhs7LS4nAp4-00652-00173439-00173775 tin hydride based
yhs7LS4nAp4-00653-00173776-00174151 compound so we'll stop it at this stage
yhs7LS4nAp4-00654-00174152-00174463 and in the next class we will take
yhs7LS4nAp4-00655-00174464-00174783 the radical based
yhs7LS4nAp4-00656-00174784-00175047 reactions because they are very close to
yhs7LS4nAp4-00657-00175048-00175095 these
yhs7LS4nAp4-00658-00175096-00175319 and therefore how the radical base
yhs7LS4nAp4-00659-00175320-00175551 reactions can ah permit
yhs7LS4nAp4-00660-00175552-00175799 not only reduction but also c c bond
yhs7LS4nAp4-00661-00175800-00175895 formation
yhs7LS4nAp4-00662-00175896-00176199 ah in many many cases ah
yhs7LS4nAp4-00663-00176200-00176526 we will take up that next time till then
yhs7LS4nAp4-00664-00176527-00176743 you can go over whatever i have
yhs7LS4nAp4-00665-00176744-00176863 discussed
yhs7LS4nAp4-00666-00176864-00177111 in today's class thank you and see you
yhs7LS4nAp4-00667-00177112-00178861 next time
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yit1ERf7FSI-00002-00003971-00005483 another rhyme to tell you how you
yit1ERf7FSI-00003-00005484-00005679 another day
yit1ERf7FSI-00004-00005680-00006302 dreaming of you by my side
yit1ERf7FSI-00005-00006303-00006678 and i'm waiting for you
yit1ERf7FSI-00006-00006679-00007055 and i'm counting minutes
yit1ERf7FSI-00007-00007056-00007814 and i'm waiting for your love
yit1ERf7FSI-00008-00007815-00008483 and i'm hearing your
yit1ERf7FSI-00009-00008484-00010999 voice believe that this is
yit1ERf7FSI-00010-00011000-00011471 me
yit1ERf7FSI-00011-00011472-00013743 i feel loved
yit1ERf7FSI-00012-00013744-00015315 uh
yit1ERf7FSI-00013-00015316-00015511 another day
yit1ERf7FSI-00014-00015512-00016127 dreaming of you by my side
yit1ERf7FSI-00015-00016128-00016503 and i'm waiting for you
yit1ERf7FSI-00016-00016504-00016886 and i'm counting minutes
yit1ERf7FSI-00017-00016887-00017639 and i'm waiting for your love
yit1ERf7FSI-00018-00017640-00018399 and i'm hearing your voice
yit1ERf7FSI-00019-00018400-00020855 i believe that this is
yit1ERf7FSI-00020-00020856-00022399 me
yit1ERf7FSI-00021-00022400-00024447 in my
yit1ERf7FSI-00022-00024448-00024931 and i'm waiting for you
yjrSiI1GR28-00000-00000088-00000339 oh
yjrSiI1GR28-00001-00000340-00002318 [Music]
yjrSiI1GR28-00002-00002319-00002710 picking up from last week's episode on
yjrSiI1GR28-00003-00002711-00002966 ocoyo
yjrSiI1GR28-00004-00002967-00003206 watch this clip
yjrSiI1GR28-00005-00003207-00003406 but this is what happened
yjrSiI1GR28-00006-00003407-00003638 one so-called london
yjrSiI1GR28-00007-00003639-00003951 at home in the village
yjrSiI1GR28-00008-00003952-00004254 he started saying things that he was
yjrSiI1GR28-00009-00004255-00004647 used to he grew around them but now they
yjrSiI1GR28-00010-00004648-00004959 were a nuisance and they were a bother
yjrSiI1GR28-00011-00004960-00005191 oh okoyo started complaining of the
yjrSiI1GR28-00012-00005192-00005399 frequent blackout
yjrSiI1GR28-00013-00005400-00005502 saying
yjrSiI1GR28-00014-00005503-00005783 there is no light
yjrSiI1GR28-00015-00005784-00005943 started complaining
yjrSiI1GR28-00016-00005944-00006295 that there is no wi-fi
yjrSiI1GR28-00017-00006296-00006567 there is no internet connectivity in the
yjrSiI1GR28-00018-00006568-00006951 village i hope he grew
yjrSiI1GR28-00019-00006952-00007223 now whenever you are watching us from
yjrSiI1GR28-00020-00007223-00007678 welcome again to lts episode number 16
yjrSiI1GR28-00021-00007679-00007878 we invite you to subscribe to our
yjrSiI1GR28-00022-00007879-00008031 youtube channel
yjrSiI1GR28-00023-00008031-00008391 just click the like button click the red
yjrSiI1GR28-00024-00008392-00008574 button and
yjrSiI1GR28-00025-00008575-00008767 we don't mind
yjrSiI1GR28-00026-00008768-00009078 hearing or even getting to
yjrSiI1GR28-00027-00009079-00009439 read your comments and your feedback
yjrSiI1GR28-00028-00009440-00009551 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00029-00009552-00010135 back to orgoyo now okoyo forgot too soon
yjrSiI1GR28-00030-00010136-00010342 that same place
yjrSiI1GR28-00031-00010343-00010583 that he was complaining about
yjrSiI1GR28-00032-00010584-00010806 was the same place he grew
yjrSiI1GR28-00033-00010807-00011095 was the same place that he had so much
yjrSiI1GR28-00034-00011096-00011471 peace with was the same land that he
yjrSiI1GR28-00035-00011472-00011727 woke up every single day
yjrSiI1GR28-00036-00011728-00012014 to enjoy the beauty of life
yjrSiI1GR28-00037-00012015-00012119 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00038-00012120-00012383 remember now okoyo is on vacation now
yjrSiI1GR28-00039-00012384-00012678 okoye opted to hire a private
yjrSiI1GR28-00040-00012679-00012983 suv land cruiser so that he can make a
yjrSiI1GR28-00041-00012984-00013102 statement
yjrSiI1GR28-00042-00013103-00013399 in his own hometown to the locals you
yjrSiI1GR28-00043-00013400-00013766 know he is the man who had
yjrSiI1GR28-00044-00013768-00014111 landed now the places that he used to
yjrSiI1GR28-00045-00014112-00014471 point out as areas that were resolved
yjrSiI1GR28-00046-00014472-00014638 for a few
yjrSiI1GR28-00047-00014640-00014855 as if you wanted to rubber stamp some
yjrSiI1GR28-00048-00014856-00015055 form of authority
yjrSiI1GR28-00049-00015056-00015366 okoyo could spend the evenings in the
yjrSiI1GR28-00050-00015368-00015503 nightclub
yjrSiI1GR28-00051-00015504-00015822 paying off drinks to revelers and in
yjrSiI1GR28-00052-00015823-00015911 fact
yjrSiI1GR28-00053-00015912-00016271 okoyo was even nicknamed
yjrSiI1GR28-00054-00016272-00016479 fever moja
yjrSiI1GR28-00055-00016480-00016575 or
yjrSiI1GR28-00056-00016576-00016783 chapua meza
yjrSiI1GR28-00057-00016784-00016967 people in this
yjrSiI1GR28-00058-00016968-00017167 area will understand what
yjrSiI1GR28-00059-00017168-00017407 i'm talking about now
yjrSiI1GR28-00060-00017408-00017558 as it is said
yjrSiI1GR28-00061-00017559-00017950 okoyo was on a spending spree
yjrSiI1GR28-00062-00017951-00018199 now little did he know
yjrSiI1GR28-00063-00018200-00018486 as they said back
yjrSiI1GR28-00064-00018487-00019086 at home
yjrSiI1GR28-00065-00019087-00019335 translated directly to
yjrSiI1GR28-00066-00019336-00019694 a person who cannot be able to be
yjrSiI1GR28-00067-00019695-00019839 corrected
yjrSiI1GR28-00068-00019840-00020239 even if you give him any form of advice
yjrSiI1GR28-00069-00020240-00020575 will never listen now okoyo was now
yjrSiI1GR28-00070-00020576-00020871 sinking in our dilution
yjrSiI1GR28-00071-00020872-00021247 and he denied the reality of who he was
yjrSiI1GR28-00072-00021248-00021350 and
yjrSiI1GR28-00073-00021351-00021447 where
yjrSiI1GR28-00074-00021448-00021735 he had come from
yjrSiI1GR28-00075-00021736-00021830 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00076-00021831-00022150 ocoyo would be seen walking with
yjrSiI1GR28-00077-00022151-00022303 one two
yjrSiI1GR28-00078-00022304-00022494 three handsets
yjrSiI1GR28-00079-00022495-00022663 and it was the
yjrSiI1GR28-00080-00022664-00022958 the bling bling cloud kind of uh
yjrSiI1GR28-00081-00022959-00023103 presentation
yjrSiI1GR28-00082-00023104-00023222 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00083-00023223-00023342 one day
yjrSiI1GR28-00084-00023343-00023575 there was a heavy downpour at the
yjrSiI1GR28-00085-00023576-00023958 lakeside anno coyo literally refused to
yjrSiI1GR28-00086-00023959-00024263 leave the room because he said
yjrSiI1GR28-00087-00024264-00024511 it was muddy outside
yjrSiI1GR28-00088-00024512-00024855 and he didn't want to have his sneakers
yjrSiI1GR28-00089-00024856-00025030 soiled
yjrSiI1GR28-00090-00025031-00025175 imagine
yjrSiI1GR28-00091-00025176-00025527 you used to walk literally barefoot and
yjrSiI1GR28-00092-00025528-00025631 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00093-00025632-00025831 you don't want to step
yjrSiI1GR28-00094-00025832-00025990 on the mud
yjrSiI1GR28-00095-00025991-00026327 or coil after spending about only seven
yjrSiI1GR28-00096-00026327-00026439 days
yjrSiI1GR28-00097-00026439-00026567 in the village
yjrSiI1GR28-00098-00026568-00026918 okoyo decided to cut short
yjrSiI1GR28-00099-00026919-00027039 his
yjrSiI1GR28-00100-00027039-00027255 vacation
yjrSiI1GR28-00101-00027256-00027607 the irony of the whole drama is
yjrSiI1GR28-00102-00027608-00027831 okoyo excused himself
yjrSiI1GR28-00103-00027832-00028174 that he was required back on duty very
yjrSiI1GR28-00104-00028175-00028446 urgently very urgently so
yjrSiI1GR28-00105-00028447-00028718 he rescheduled his flight
yjrSiI1GR28-00106-00028719-00029031 and he was back in dubai
yjrSiI1GR28-00107-00029032-00029207 within
yjrSiI1GR28-00108-00029208-00029902 no time
yjrSiI1GR28-00109-00029904-00030167 because he did not want people to know
yjrSiI1GR28-00110-00030168-00030558 that he had cut his vacation short
yjrSiI1GR28-00111-00030560-00030790 or coyote landed at night
yjrSiI1GR28-00112-00030791-00031167 and he stayed indoors for a couple
yjrSiI1GR28-00113-00031168-00031383 of days
yjrSiI1GR28-00114-00031383-00031679 now because of his lifestyle
yjrSiI1GR28-00115-00031680-00031774 friends
yjrSiI1GR28-00116-00031775-00032007 of lds
yjrSiI1GR28-00117-00032008-00032311 it is one thing to be yourself and it is
yjrSiI1GR28-00118-00032312-00032646 another thing to live a double standard
yjrSiI1GR28-00119-00032647-00032774 lifestyle
yjrSiI1GR28-00120-00032775-00033062 okay could not stay indoors any longer
yjrSiI1GR28-00121-00033063-00033302 and in fact after just four days he
yjrSiI1GR28-00122-00033303-00033702 broke his self-isolation and he was out
yjrSiI1GR28-00123-00033703-00033911 and about
yjrSiI1GR28-00124-00033912-00034015 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00125-00034016-00034239 with no money at hand
yjrSiI1GR28-00126-00034240-00034495 with the lifestyle to maintain
yjrSiI1GR28-00127-00034496-00034751 or coil started borrowing
yjrSiI1GR28-00128-00034752-00034855 here
yjrSiI1GR28-00129-00034856-00035071 and there and of course
yjrSiI1GR28-00130-00035072-00035255 with no shame
yjrSiI1GR28-00131-00035256-00035567 that strategy of borrowing from friends
yjrSiI1GR28-00132-00035568-00035671 wouldn't
yjrSiI1GR28-00133-00035672-00035830 last him
yjrSiI1GR28-00134-00035831-00035999 for long
yjrSiI1GR28-00135-00036000-00036335 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00136-00036336-00036518 unlike back home
yjrSiI1GR28-00137-00036519-00036879 here there is law and there is order
yjrSiI1GR28-00138-00036880-00037102 now thinking that he would escape the
yjrSiI1GR28-00139-00037103-00037311 long arm of the law
yjrSiI1GR28-00140-00037312-00037599 okoyo became a frequent visitor to a
yjrSiI1GR28-00141-00037600-00037735 place
yjrSiI1GR28-00142-00037736-00038015 that was dubbed
yjrSiI1GR28-00143-00038016-00038262 i'm sure the people in this area
yjrSiI1GR28-00144-00038263-00038455 will really resonate
yjrSiI1GR28-00145-00038456-00038702 very well with this name now this is
yjrSiI1GR28-00146-00038703-00038783 where
yjrSiI1GR28-00147-00038784-00039015 they will gather in the middle of the
yjrSiI1GR28-00148-00039016-00039167 sand dunes
yjrSiI1GR28-00149-00039168-00039471 especially in the evening when the sun
yjrSiI1GR28-00150-00039472-00039718 has died down and there's no heat of the
yjrSiI1GR28-00151-00039719-00039807 day
yjrSiI1GR28-00152-00039808-00040087 and they will dig themselves to a
yjrSiI1GR28-00153-00040088-00040239 blackout
yjrSiI1GR28-00154-00040240-00040695 okoyo was a member now after some time
yjrSiI1GR28-00155-00040696-00040943 okoyo upgraded himself
yjrSiI1GR28-00156-00040944-00041071 and started
yjrSiI1GR28-00157-00041072-00041262 vending the liquor
yjrSiI1GR28-00158-00041263-00041358 which
yjrSiI1GR28-00159-00041359-00041607 was not a legit business
yjrSiI1GR28-00160-00041608-00041702 and
yjrSiI1GR28-00161-00041703-00042007 as papa freddie says
yjrSiI1GR28-00162-00042008-00042463 business is
yjrSiI1GR28-00163-00042464-00042927 [Applause]
yjrSiI1GR28-00164-00042928-00043007 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00165-00043008-00043287 since he was doing this fishy business
yjrSiI1GR28-00166-00043288-00043527 from the trunk of his car
yjrSiI1GR28-00167-00043528-00043655 one day
yjrSiI1GR28-00168-00043656-00043902 a client walked by
yjrSiI1GR28-00169-00043903-00044190 and needed a bottle of liquor
yjrSiI1GR28-00170-00044191-00044399 and recoil indeed
yjrSiI1GR28-00171-00044400-00044679 sold and he got the cash
yjrSiI1GR28-00172-00044680-00044918 and he was so excited
yjrSiI1GR28-00173-00044919-00045079 now the rest
yjrSiI1GR28-00174-00045080-00045358 is history now
yjrSiI1GR28-00175-00045359-00045958 okay
yjrSiI1GR28-00176-00045959-00047367 now little did you know
yjrSiI1GR28-00177-00047368-00047502 and in fact
yjrSiI1GR28-00178-00047503-00047727 he was arrested and he became the guest
yjrSiI1GR28-00179-00047728-00047871 of the state
yjrSiI1GR28-00180-00047872-00048062 for many many months
yjrSiI1GR28-00181-00048063-00048374 before he was deported
yjrSiI1GR28-00182-00048375-00048495 back
yjrSiI1GR28-00183-00048496-00048655 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00184-00048656-00049030 the reality of living a lie
yjrSiI1GR28-00185-00049031-00049367 was now very much alive and well
yjrSiI1GR28-00186-00049368-00049686 when okoyo landed back home
yjrSiI1GR28-00187-00049687-00049927 where there was no wi-fi
yjrSiI1GR28-00188-00049928-00050183 where there was blackout
yjrSiI1GR28-00189-00050184-00050430 where there was mud
yjrSiI1GR28-00190-00050431-00050871 it was not right in front of him
yjrSiI1GR28-00191-00050872-00051007 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00192-00051008-00051223 the many followers and friends that he
yjrSiI1GR28-00193-00051224-00051511 was buying gifts and drinks
yjrSiI1GR28-00194-00051512-00051782 were nowhere around him now
yjrSiI1GR28-00195-00051783-00052054 the daughters of jezebel that surrounded
yjrSiI1GR28-00196-00052055-00052279 him during the vacation
yjrSiI1GR28-00197-00052279-00052591 while enjoying the rainy season with
yjrSiI1GR28-00198-00052591-00052703 another
yjrSiI1GR28-00199-00052704-00052950 ogoyo
yjrSiI1GR28-00200-00052951-00053103 sadly
yjrSiI1GR28-00201-00053104-00053326 okoyo sunk into
yjrSiI1GR28-00202-00053327-00053599 a serious depression
yjrSiI1GR28-00203-00053600-00053894 now it doesn't matter what you go
yjrSiI1GR28-00204-00053895-00054079 through
yjrSiI1GR28-00205-00054079-00054238 where you are
yjrSiI1GR28-00206-00054239-00054542 home is the place where
yjrSiI1GR28-00207-00054544-00054775 you will find solace
yjrSiI1GR28-00208-00054776-00055159 home is the best place to be and home
yjrSiI1GR28-00209-00055160-00055335 will always be
yjrSiI1GR28-00210-00055336-00055494 the last resolve
yjrSiI1GR28-00211-00055495-00055638 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00212-00055639-00055847 many have heard
yjrSiI1GR28-00213-00055848-00056223 great opportunities that comes once in a
yjrSiI1GR28-00214-00056224-00056359 lifetime
yjrSiI1GR28-00215-00056360-00056630 so that they can be able to make ends
yjrSiI1GR28-00216-00056632-00056823 meet for themselves
yjrSiI1GR28-00217-00056824-00057094 but they fall victim to the short-lived
yjrSiI1GR28-00218-00057095-00057207 pleasures
yjrSiI1GR28-00219-00057208-00057375 and meaningless
yjrSiI1GR28-00220-00057376-00057663 instant gratifications
yjrSiI1GR28-00221-00057664-00058015 now it's okay to be happy it's okay to
yjrSiI1GR28-00222-00058016-00058311 reward yourself in fact it is encouraged
yjrSiI1GR28-00223-00058312-00058711 to do so after hard earned wages it's
yjrSiI1GR28-00224-00058712-00058823 okay
yjrSiI1GR28-00225-00058824-00058959 however
yjrSiI1GR28-00226-00058960-00059279 when you are in a foreign land
yjrSiI1GR28-00227-00059279-00059630 or if you are in a foreign country as an
yjrSiI1GR28-00228-00059632-00059791 expatriate
yjrSiI1GR28-00229-00059791-00060030 i provoke you right now
yjrSiI1GR28-00230-00060032-00060191 to think with me
yjrSiI1GR28-00231-00060191-00060519 and ask yourself these
yjrSiI1GR28-00232-00060520-00060630 very
yjrSiI1GR28-00233-00060632-00060759 very
yjrSiI1GR28-00234-00060760-00060991 tough questions
yjrSiI1GR28-00235-00060991-00061159 number one
yjrSiI1GR28-00236-00061160-00061350 what made you
yjrSiI1GR28-00237-00061351-00061511 leave your
yjrSiI1GR28-00238-00061512-00061759 country
yjrSiI1GR28-00239-00061760-00061911 number two
yjrSiI1GR28-00240-00061912-00062054 where were you
yjrSiI1GR28-00241-00062055-00062199 before
yjrSiI1GR28-00242-00062200-00062487 you even got at
yjrSiI1GR28-00243-00062488-00062766 before you even got that offer
yjrSiI1GR28-00244-00062767-00063030 that offered that made you work
yjrSiI1GR28-00245-00063032-00063175 outside
yjrSiI1GR28-00246-00063176-00063335 your country
yjrSiI1GR28-00247-00063336-00063550 number three
yjrSiI1GR28-00248-00063551-00063735 what do you
yjrSiI1GR28-00249-00063736-00063982 have to look back to
yjrSiI1GR28-00250-00063983-00064287 as a prize or as a reward
yjrSiI1GR28-00251-00064288-00064582 for working outside your country for one
yjrSiI1GR28-00252-00064583-00064887 year two years three years ten years
yjrSiI1GR28-00253-00064888-00065119 what do you have to look
yjrSiI1GR28-00254-00065120-00065326 back to
yjrSiI1GR28-00255-00065327-00065519 number four
yjrSiI1GR28-00256-00065520-00065782 do you even remember
yjrSiI1GR28-00257-00065783-00065894 where
yjrSiI1GR28-00258-00065895-00066071 you came from
yjrSiI1GR28-00259-00066072-00066271 do you even remember
yjrSiI1GR28-00260-00066272-00066375 where
yjrSiI1GR28-00261-00066376-00066479 you
yjrSiI1GR28-00262-00066480-00066759 were
yjrSiI1GR28-00263-00066760-00066935 now
yjrSiI1GR28-00264-00066936-00067150 these are deep questions that i'll
yjrSiI1GR28-00265-00067151-00067303 provoke you to
yjrSiI1GR28-00266-00067304-00067526 ask yourself
yjrSiI1GR28-00267-00067527-00067863 do you have an idea of what you want to
yjrSiI1GR28-00268-00067864-00067982 achieve
yjrSiI1GR28-00269-00067983-00068319 during your work life abroad or in a
yjrSiI1GR28-00270-00068320-00068535 foreign country
yjrSiI1GR28-00271-00068536-00068823 are you aware there are some countries
yjrSiI1GR28-00272-00068824-00069191 that don't grant permanent residency
yjrSiI1GR28-00273-00069192-00069519 any moment if you're in such a country
yjrSiI1GR28-00274-00069520-00069950 should your employment contract lapse or
yjrSiI1GR28-00275-00069951-00070159 should you be terminated
yjrSiI1GR28-00276-00070160-00070415 you will have to face the real reality
yjrSiI1GR28-00277-00070416-00070519 of
yjrSiI1GR28-00278-00070520-00070687 what next
yjrSiI1GR28-00279-00070688-00070959 now if you had not managed yourself
yjrSiI1GR28-00280-00070960-00071175 during the rainy season
yjrSiI1GR28-00281-00071176-00071319 then this
yjrSiI1GR28-00282-00071320-00071462 would be
yjrSiI1GR28-00283-00071463-00071791 a great
yjrSiI1GR28-00284-00071792-00071935 this is
yjrSiI1GR28-00285-00071936-00072167 the simple truth
yjrSiI1GR28-00286-00072168-00072613 of the week
yjrSiI1GR28-00287-00072614-00073582 [Music]
yjrSiI1GR28-00288-00073583-00073871 remember the main reason that drove you
yjrSiI1GR28-00289-00073872-00074071 from your home country
yjrSiI1GR28-00290-00074072-00074335 in pursuit of a better living
yjrSiI1GR28-00291-00074336-00074535 or a greener pasture
yjrSiI1GR28-00292-00074536-00074662 or even
yjrSiI1GR28-00293-00074663-00074911 a career development
yjrSiI1GR28-00294-00074912-00075182 forget not that maiden goal
yjrSiI1GR28-00295-00075183-00075415 that keeps you awake
yjrSiI1GR28-00296-00075416-00075575 that makes you
yjrSiI1GR28-00297-00075576-00075735 work hard
yjrSiI1GR28-00298-00075736-00075919 endure challenges
yjrSiI1GR28-00299-00075920-00076055 of being
yjrSiI1GR28-00300-00076056-00076255 in a foreign country
yjrSiI1GR28-00301-00076256-00076447 and the very hope
yjrSiI1GR28-00302-00076448-00076694 of reuniting one day
yjrSiI1GR28-00303-00076695-00076871 with your homeland
yjrSiI1GR28-00304-00076872-00077031 bigger
yjrSiI1GR28-00305-00077032-00077487 and better now if then for no any other
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yjrSiI1GR28-00307-00077648-00078023 feel the pain of every coin
yjrSiI1GR28-00308-00078024-00078206 every dollar
yjrSiI1GR28-00309-00078207-00078375 every drum
yjrSiI1GR28-00310-00078376-00078791 every rupee every quarter or every pound
yjrSiI1GR28-00311-00078792-00079119 that you earn and you work so hard to
yjrSiI1GR28-00312-00079120-00079255 get
yjrSiI1GR28-00313-00079256-00079631 don't just let your toil
yjrSiI1GR28-00314-00079632-00079782 be in vain
yjrSiI1GR28-00315-00079783-00079950 after years
yjrSiI1GR28-00316-00079951-00080135 of working so hard
yjrSiI1GR28-00317-00080136-00080287 with nothing
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yjrSiI1GR28-00325-00081816-00082191 episode number 17 and in this episode a
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yjrSiI1GR28-00328-00082568-00082903 he came abroad to work
yjrSiI1GR28-00329-00082904-00083135 he sent money home
yjrSiI1GR28-00330-00083136-00083335 for someone to build
yjrSiI1GR28-00331-00083336-00083718 him a house and invest
yjrSiI1GR28-00332-00083719-00084071 he went home after years of sacrifice
yjrSiI1GR28-00333-00084072-00084143 and
yjrSiI1GR28-00334-00084144-00084343 fasting
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yjrSiI1GR28-00380-00096607-00097006 episode number 17. of let's talk
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yjrSiI1GR28-00382-00097169-00099103 [Music]
yjrSiI1GR28-00383-00099104-00099312 you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00000-00000003-00000196 okay guys this is the second production
ylU5pUGkSX0-00001-00000197-00000403 day for access the creators Club we are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00002-00000404-00000800 here with Kyle in um just so happens
ylU5pUGkSX0-00003-00000801-00000911 that they want to be doing construction
ylU5pUGkSX0-00004-00000911-00001033 outside of my apartment so that's gonna
ylU5pUGkSX0-00005-00001034-00001169 be a little bit annoying to deal with
ylU5pUGkSX0-00006-00001170-00001651 but it's all good
ylU5pUGkSX0-00007-00001652-00001909 today's guest Kyle in is a pro dancer
ylU5pUGkSX0-00008-00001910-00002162 instructor and choreographer who's here
ylU5pUGkSX0-00009-00002163-00002284 to talk about his experience in the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00010-00002285-00002480 industry the importance of ethics in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00011-00002481-00002756 knowing why you create your art hey guys
ylU5pUGkSX0-00012-00002757-00002926 welcome back to the creators Club where
ylU5pUGkSX0-00013-00002927-00003080 we find out what drives artists and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00014-00003081-00003313 creative professionals just like you I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00015-00003314-00003494 sitting here today with dancer
ylU5pUGkSX0-00016-00003495-00003772 choreographer and instructor Kyle Lane
ylU5pUGkSX0-00017-00003773-00004076 we have a lot to talk about um gonna try
ylU5pUGkSX0-00018-00004077-00004213 to keep it all cohesive gonna have a lot
ylU5pUGkSX0-00019-00004214-00004349 of things that I want to ask him and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00020-00004350-00004511 hopefully we don't get to later to feed
ylU5pUGkSX0-00021-00004512-00004709 but on put you a little bit on the spot
ylU5pUGkSX0-00022-00004710-00005225 to start okay so when I get you up and I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00023-00005226-00005366 was like yo do you wanna come sit down
ylU5pUGkSX0-00024-00005367-00005527 for the creators club you would ask me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00025-00005528-00005597 all these questions
ylU5pUGkSX0-00026-00005598-00005729 I was in the middle of something so it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00027-00005730-00005836 hard for me to respond to you but I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00028-00005837-00005966 think the first thing you asked me was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00029-00005967-00006179 like oh is it gonna be um kind of like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00030-00006180-00006334 in the style of what you just did what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00031-00006335-00006464 I've been doing much the past seven
ylU5pUGkSX0-00032-00006465-00006713 months and the answer was no and I just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00033-00006714-00006833 kind of wanna provide some clarity for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00034-00006834-00006967 you and just anybody else that might
ylU5pUGkSX0-00035-00006968-00007142 have been following creators coming
ylU5pUGkSX0-00036-00007143-00007285 might wonder why in the new year we're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00037-00007286-00007508 not doing that anymore um and the reason
ylU5pUGkSX0-00038-00007509-00007735 is because you ever look at a magazine a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00039-00007736-00007945 magazine or read a book and sometimes
ylU5pUGkSX0-00040-00007947-00008078 you find that you kind of went through
ylU5pUGkSX0-00041-00008079-00008239 the magazine and you only looked at the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00042-00008240-00008483 pictures yeah okay that's what I feel
ylU5pUGkSX0-00043-00008484-00008630 like what's happening with creators Club
ylU5pUGkSX0-00044-00008631-00008888 I felt like people were people were
ylU5pUGkSX0-00045-00008889-00009098 tuning in to see the branding in the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00046-00009099-00009221 picture but they weren't really paying
ylU5pUGkSX0-00047-00009222-00009419 attention to what the people are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00048-00009420-00009569 interviewing really had to say like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00049-00009570-00009760 reading right weren't really reading I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00050-00009761-00009998 just even like clients that I've gotten
ylU5pUGkSX0-00051-00009999-00010171 after I started doing queries Club seven
ylU5pUGkSX0-00052-00010172-00010235 months ago
ylU5pUGkSX0-00053-00010236-00010406 we're hitting me up for branding and for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00054-00010407-00010673 photoshoot - not for couldn't think that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00055-00010674-00010805 what I really am trying to say yeah I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00056-00010806-00010939 don't do with this which is the business
ylU5pUGkSX0-00057-00010940-00011201 consulting in that you see them saying
ylU5pUGkSX0-00058-00011202-00011399 so I pretty much decided that I was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00059-00011400-00011534 gonna stop doing that because I want
ylU5pUGkSX0-00060-00011535-00011645 people to really focus on the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00061-00011646-00011777 conversation that we're having and not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00062-00011778-00012017 the pretty pictures yeah yeah first of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00063-00012018-00012191 all speaking of people that pay
ylU5pUGkSX0-00064-00012192-00012367 attention thank you for supporting the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00065-00012368-00012656 Cleary's Club I feel like you are one of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00066-00012657-00012949 the main people that actually is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00067-00012950-00013336 is paying attention to what we're seeing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00068-00013337-00013544 I mean you know what I mean so can't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00069-00013544-00013711 help it I kind of sorry but you want to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00070-00013712-00013835 spot again but I kind of just want to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00071-00013836-00014102 hear from you what is the perception of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00072-00014103-00014360 what you're taking in about the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00073-00014361-00014453 creator's go but what should what should
ylU5pUGkSX0-00074-00014454-00014855 i pinging on it hmm well it's just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00075-00014856-00015122 really simple I mean number one is that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00076-00015122-00015260 nobody else is doing this
ylU5pUGkSX0-00077-00015261-00015428 so that automatically has my attention
ylU5pUGkSX0-00078-00015429-00015811 and number two is like you're you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00079-00015812-00016100 asking us questions that give people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00080-00016101-00016394 answers to other questions that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00081-00016395-00016544 everybody else has but know everyone's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00082-00016545-00016694 scared to ask those questions right and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00083-00016695-00016889 then you're also asking dancers that are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00084-00016890-00017203 still living that lifestyle so you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00085-00017204-00017336 it's just for me it's more about being
ylU5pUGkSX0-00086-00017337-00017666 relatable and you're putting that at the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00087-00017667-00017864 forefront for everyone to have answers
ylU5pUGkSX0-00088-00017865-00018061 and I just I respect that so much thank
ylU5pUGkSX0-00089-00018062-00018266 you no I know you care too so like the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00090-00018267-00018530 fact that you care enough to improve the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00091-00018531-00018961 industry or improve like our lives or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00092-00018962-00019127 just the way we live our lives as
ylU5pUGkSX0-00093-00019128-00019306 artists like you know I just appreciate
ylU5pUGkSX0-00094-00019307-00019489 it so much so that's why I try to like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00095-00019490-00019783 support as much as I can I mean yeah
ylU5pUGkSX0-00096-00019784-00019958 it's just I feel like our life it just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00097-00019959-00020165 just has to be about be about supporting
ylU5pUGkSX0-00098-00020166-00020396 the things that we believe in or we feel
ylU5pUGkSX0-00099-00020397-00020575 like make the world better right just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00100-00020576-00020762 like artists but just the world the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00101-00020763-00020978 world in general yeah so just for anyone
ylU5pUGkSX0-00102-00020979-00021190 that might just be kind of finding out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00103-00021191-00021331 what the crudest Club is the reason I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00104-00021332-00021512 created this I created Korea's Club
ylU5pUGkSX0-00105-00021513-00021712 honestly it took me about like six
ylU5pUGkSX0-00106-00021713-00022094 months to develop I started it over last
ylU5pUGkSX0-00107-00022095-00022300 summer I started developing it it in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00108-00022301-00022547 really president we call it it didn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00109-00022548-00022718 launch until October last year so a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00110-00022719-00022930 little over a year ago and basically the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00111-00022931-00023062 reason why I created it is because
ylU5pUGkSX0-00112-00023063-00023433 throughout my career as a dancer I never
ylU5pUGkSX0-00113-00023434-00023719 could accept that this is just what it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00114-00023720-00023927 was that I was supposed to just go to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00115-00023928-00024143 dance classes wait for somebody to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00116-00024144-00024371 notice me hopefully I get an agent one
ylU5pUGkSX0-00117-00024372-00024553 day even then I didn't really feel like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00118-00024554-00024686 agent really doing there are a hundred
ylU5pUGkSX0-00119-00024687-00024821 percent to make sure that they're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00120-00024822-00024905 connecting me with jobs and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00121-00024906-00025105 opportunities and I felt like there was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00122-00025106-00025265 just this waiting game of like all right
ylU5pUGkSX0-00123-00025266-00025418 what supposed to happen down here and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00124-00025419-00025593 before you know moving to New York City
ylU5pUGkSX0-00125-00025594-00025894 when I was a kid I used to want to be in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00126-00025895-00026063 music videos and wanna dance at that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00127-00026064-00026283 time pop industry
ylU5pUGkSX0-00128-00026283-00026460 culture was so inspiring you had Missy
ylU5pUGkSX0-00129-00026461-00026627 Aaliyah even breaking like there was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00130-00026629-00026847 just so many ideas and I would see kids
ylU5pUGkSX0-00131-00026848-00027002 and be like how the hell do I do that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00132-00027004-00027156 and I had my perception of what I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00133-00027157-00027333 thought the industry was but when I got
ylU5pUGkSX0-00134-00027333-00027587 into it I was like so this is it yeah
ylU5pUGkSX0-00135-00027588-00027831 like you told me that the most I can
ylU5pUGkSX0-00136-00027832-00027887 make in a day
ylU5pUGkSX0-00137-00027888-00028005 even if I've been doing this for 20
ylU5pUGkSX0-00138-00028006-00028251 years forever her soul is 250 like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00139-00028252-00028386 that's the rate and no matter how long
ylU5pUGkSX0-00140-00028387-00028562 I've been doing it who I'm dancing for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00141-00028563-00028935 and I always felt like no I want to make
ylU5pUGkSX0-00142-00028936-00029079 just as much money as an artist I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00143-00029080-00029187 dancing for there's no reason why
ylU5pUGkSX0-00144-00029188-00029364 they're getting a 300 million a three
ylU5pUGkSX0-00145-00029364-00029645 million dollar check and I'm getting 750
ylU5pUGkSX0-00146-00029647-00029844 yeah to be on a project that's promoting
ylU5pUGkSX0-00147-00029845-00029985 your new that you're making money off of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00148-00029986-00030245 yeah that just never said sat right with
ylU5pUGkSX0-00149-00030247-00030618 me so yeah right right right so just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00150-00030619-00030879 long story short I create the creator's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00151-00030880-00031137 Club to be a business resource in a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00152-00031138-00031332 branding resource for three stages of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00153-00031333-00031664 your career people that don't know how
ylU5pUGkSX0-00154-00031666-00031776 to get into the industry and want to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00155-00031777-00031929 figure that out people that are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00156-00031930-00032106 currently in the industry and just don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00157-00032107-00032283 really know what to do next all the time
ylU5pUGkSX0-00158-00032283-00032615 and then three people that have done
ylU5pUGkSX0-00159-00032616-00032724 what they wanted to do and have a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00160-00032725-00032892 comment they want to accomplish you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00161-00032893-00033030 whether you're a photographer a dancer a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00162-00033031-00033258 model whatever and want to figure out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00163-00033259-00033483 kind of how to grow beyond that and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00164-00033484-00033687 evolve as a brand beyond that okay so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00165-00033688-00034077 again and the reason why I am confident
ylU5pUGkSX0-00166-00034078-00034248 about what I what I teach here and I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00167-00034249-00034356 hate using the word teach but that's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00168-00034357-00034524 just the best weird image right now is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00169-00034525-00034707 because I've done those things I've got
ylU5pUGkSX0-00170-00034708-00034896 into the industry I've been in it now
ylU5pUGkSX0-00171-00034897-00035058 again people will people will have their
ylU5pUGkSX0-00172-00035059-00035265 opinion on well you didn't go on a major
ylU5pUGkSX0-00173-00035266-00035430 tour or you didn't work for Janet
ylU5pUGkSX0-00174-00035431-00035631 Jackson doesn't matter I did it yeah I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00175-00035632-00035805 booked jobs I did it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00176-00035806-00035949 you know they mean that's what it is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00177-00035950-00036108 there's obviously different magnitudes
ylU5pUGkSX0-00178-00036109-00036450 and different levels but I did it and I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00179-00036451-00036519 got out of it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00180-00036520-00036708 you're gonna mean successfully on my own
ylU5pUGkSX0-00181-00036709-00036821 willing you mean I'm not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00182-00036822-00037032 yeah because I chose to you see I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00183-00037033-00037176 saying so that's why I'm really
ylU5pUGkSX0-00184-00037177-00037524 confident about what it is like you you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00185-00037525-00037646 see them saying you know that's why I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00186-00037647-00037790 really confident about what it is that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00187-00037791-00038127 I'm staying here so for sure um so yeah
ylU5pUGkSX0-00188-00038128-00038352 so that being said um I always do since
ylU5pUGkSX0-00189-00038353-00038562 I was young I'm gonna be a dancer then
ylU5pUGkSX0-00190-00038563-00038733 I'm gonna be a working with my own
ylU5pUGkSX0-00191-00038734-00038880 business and that's just kind of the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00192-00038881-00039015 blueprint that I stuck to and that's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00193-00039016-00039215 what I did and I felt like yeah when I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00194-00039216-00039314 came into the image
ylU5pUGkSX0-00195-00039315-00039446 I wish there were certain things that I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00196-00039447-00039674 knew I wish they were answers and I wish
ylU5pUGkSX0-00197-00039675-00039752 it they were you know just certain
ylU5pUGkSX0-00198-00039753-00039953 things I felt like if I knew that that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00199-00039954-00040061 would have saved me three years of my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00200-00040062-00040277 life or if I knew this that would have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00201-00040278-00040442 cut out six months at I wish to do X Y &
ylU5pUGkSX0-00202-00040443-00040661 Z I just want to provide a place like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00203-00040662-00040790 you said earlier people can ask
ylU5pUGkSX0-00204-00040791-00040961 questions that people aren't asking but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00205-00040962-00041096 they can get real answers in a real
ylU5pUGkSX0-00206-00041097-00041192 resources on how to move forward
ylU5pUGkSX0-00207-00041193-00041387 everyday as an artist yeah and create a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00208-00041388-00041558 professional for sure that make sense
ylU5pUGkSX0-00209-00041559-00041930 you know so I guess traditionally to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00210-00041931-00042230 that my question for you is what do you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00211-00042231-00042446 think is the most challenging thing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00212-00042447-00042593 about being an artist in today's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00213-00042594-00042998 industry I mean there's a lot of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00214-00042999-00043118 challenges but I would say the number
ylU5pUGkSX0-00215-00043119-00043394 one is just accepting - no look I got
ylU5pUGkSX0-00216-00043395-00043748 accepted know so many times and I mean
ylU5pUGkSX0-00217-00043749-00044012 usually my answers would probably take a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00218-00044013-00044225 couple minutes or like a minute to like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00219-00044226-00044471 think of an answer and it's just that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00220-00044472-00044603 this is just really apparent everybody
ylU5pUGkSX0-00221-00044604-00044822 knows that the biggest thing for artists
ylU5pUGkSX0-00222-00044823-00044996 just always accepting to know and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00223-00044997-00045251 learning how to like take that know and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00224-00045252-00045490 and fight for more yeses you know right
ylU5pUGkSX0-00225-00045491-00046007 and especially when you know are like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00226-00046008-00046157 our country is not really like putting
ylU5pUGkSX0-00227-00046158-00046313 arts on the forefront even though it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00228-00046314-00046586 we've had investments and we had like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00229-00046587-00046721 people putting you money for arts like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00230-00046722-00047012 music and big artists it's still not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00231-00047013-00047333 like a focus you know I mean like so the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00232-00047334-00047501 the money behind that it's not a lot
ylU5pUGkSX0-00233-00047502-00047735 right I compared to like corporate jobs
ylU5pUGkSX0-00234-00047736-00047957 or things that feed other interests but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00235-00047958-00048209 in terms of the arts like you just have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00236-00048210-00048398 to accept that like whatever you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00237-00048399-00048578 doing you got a fight you got to do more
ylU5pUGkSX0-00238-00048579-00048743 than an average Joe for that a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00239-00048744-00048860 nine-to-five you got to do more
ylU5pUGkSX0-00240-00048861-00049169 especially if you're your own business I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00241-00049170-00049340 hear an entrepreneur you got to do more
ylU5pUGkSX0-00242-00049341-00049529 yeah I mean it's not just like in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00243-00049530-00049883 rehearsal right so um it's yes it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00244-00049884-00050036 about accepting that know and learning
ylU5pUGkSX0-00245-00050037-00050213 how to like move on from it and not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00246-00050214-00050528 trying to stay I mean we're gonna have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00247-00050529-00050666 the feelings and we're gonna be upset
ylU5pUGkSX0-00248-00050667-00050822 there any because you know everyone has
ylU5pUGkSX0-00249-00050823-00051029 different goals so if you end up having
ylU5pUGkSX0-00250-00051030-00051272 this huge job and you put all your eggs
ylU5pUGkSX0-00251-00051273-00051413 in one basket and you and you want that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00252-00051414-00051635 job and you get it know like you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00253-00051636-00051779 you're allowed to feel sad you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00254-00051779-00051932 allowed to feel disappointed but it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00255-00051933-00052134 what you do with it do with that yeah
ylU5pUGkSX0-00256-00052135-00052260 matters because if you just stay there
ylU5pUGkSX0-00257-00052261-00052466 then you either not gonna get better
ylU5pUGkSX0-00258-00052467-00052578 you're not gonna get pay you're not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00259-00052579-00052728 gonna get another job you have to stay
ylU5pUGkSX0-00260-00052729-00053022 you gotta keep keep going on the path so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00261-00053023-00053160 accepting that no is the first thing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00262-00053161-00053376 okay I think there's two things I want
ylU5pUGkSX0-00263-00053377-00053529 to touch on there so first absolutely
ylU5pUGkSX0-00264-00053529-00053673 right you got to learn how to accept
ylU5pUGkSX0-00265-00053674-00053964 that no and one thing that I kind of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00266-00053965-00054092 live by the kind of guy to me throughout
ylU5pUGkSX0-00267-00054094-00054230 my career is I've learned that like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00268-00054232-00054404 we're gonna get knocked down yeah what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00269-00054405-00054600 matters is how long you stay down yeah
ylU5pUGkSX0-00270-00054601-00054842 see I'm saying life period here and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00271-00054844-00055152 something I forgot to mention and my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00272-00055153-00055473 little intro there was that another
ylU5pUGkSX0-00273-00055474-00055701 reason I launched this situation this
ylU5pUGkSX0-00274-00055702-00055929 platform is because I also found that a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00275-00055929-00056157 lot of people just love to make excuses
ylU5pUGkSX0-00276-00056158-00056385 as to why they can't do things yes my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00277-00056386-00056694 circumstances my this is my dad well you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00278-00056695-00056862 know and I don't believe in that I've
ylU5pUGkSX0-00279-00056863-00057060 come from shitty circumstances I've come
ylU5pUGkSX0-00280-00057061-00057222 from a family that couldn't be like here
ylU5pUGkSX0-00281-00057223-00057363 go move to New York here's all this
ylU5pUGkSX0-00282-00057364-00057588 money let me get into school I had to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00283-00057589-00057783 really fight to figure out you know me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00284-00057784-00057960 so it's like I always just feel like I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00285-00057961-00058205 can do it you can do it yeah now again
ylU5pUGkSX0-00286-00058207-00058344 everyone's journey is gonna be different
ylU5pUGkSX0-00287-00058345-00058482 everyone's story is different everyone's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00288-00058483-00058679 circumstance is different yeah totally
ylU5pUGkSX0-00289-00058680-00058977 but I just believe that it starts with
ylU5pUGkSX0-00290-00058978-00059139 the possibility believing that your hand
ylU5pUGkSX0-00291-00059140-00059349 make those dreams come true staying
ylU5pUGkSX0-00292-00059350-00059526 consistent to what you're pursuing and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00293-00059527-00059754 just not making excuses for it so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00294-00059754-00060099 absolutely you're gonna get no but it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00295-00060100-00060294 like you know when one door closes a lot
ylU5pUGkSX0-00296-00060295-00060459 more open it's cliche but it's very very
ylU5pUGkSX0-00297-00060460-00060615 you know it's like just me what a job
ylU5pUGkSX0-00298-00060616-00060765 interview right yeah you're not gonna
ylU5pUGkSX0-00299-00060766-00060960 get every job and offer for every job
ylU5pUGkSX0-00300-00060961-00061128 interview for you got to keep trying and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00301-00061129-00061326 keep doing it and ended up I think the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00302-00061327-00061560 important part about learning from an O
ylU5pUGkSX0-00303-00061561-00061770 is being able to take a look at yourself
ylU5pUGkSX0-00304-00061771-00061916 and evaluate okay what could I have done
ylU5pUGkSX0-00305-00061917-00061959 better
ylU5pUGkSX0-00306-00061960-00062136 yeah what are the people that did get
ylU5pUGkSX0-00307-00062137-00062364 the yes is doing that I'm not what can I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00308-00062365-00062504 learn from those people you see no
ylU5pUGkSX0-00309-00062504-00062792 possibility yes I've met people that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00310-00062794-00062979 don't know how to do that they don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00311-00062979-00063084 know how to self-evaluate
ylU5pUGkSX0-00312-00063085-00063242 they don't know how to do research and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00313-00063244-00063491 say okay I didn't get that that job at
ylU5pUGkSX0-00314-00063492-00063648 me support twice two years in a row I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00315-00063649-00063882 didn't get it okay why not there's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00316-00063883-00064047 different things again it could be
ylU5pUGkSX0-00317-00064048-00064353 talent it could be look and it's okay
ylU5pUGkSX0-00318-00064354-00064944 that Wednesday
ylU5pUGkSX0-00319-00064945-00065112 it could be Talent it could be look
ylU5pUGkSX0-00320-00065113-00065331 nothing accepting that it's okay
ylU5pUGkSX0-00321-00065332-00065493 something is not for you yeah you see
ylU5pUGkSX0-00322-00065494-00065710 them saying it's like a lot of people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00323-00065711-00065949 try to for something to be for them and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00324-00065950-00066241 it's okay if it's not what we're to me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00325-00066242-00066490 is a lot of things that work they worked
ylU5pUGkSX0-00326-00066491-00066709 against me right being I look very very
ylU5pUGkSX0-00327-00066710-00066991 young I'm very very sure those are two
ylU5pUGkSX0-00328-00066992-00067141 things in this industry where it's like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00329-00067142-00067410 you start getting boxed a little bit you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00330-00067411-00067546 know I mean even like when it came to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00331-00067547-00067672 like my dance training I didn't move to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00332-00067673-00067869 New York until I was 20 I couldn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00333-00067870-00067990 really focus on my training until about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00334-00067991-00068331 like 23 got an agent at 24 in me so I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00335-00068332-00068523 was a little I didn't really I didn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00336-00068524-00068643 really get a lot of time to practice as
ylU5pUGkSX0-00337-00068644-00068811 a freestyler or a street dancer so there
ylU5pUGkSX0-00338-00068812-00068955 were a lot of things that like people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00339-00068956-00069141 have preferences there were a lot of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00340-00069142-00069342 things where I'm like that's not me I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00341-00069343-00069579 not good at that and you have to be able
ylU5pUGkSX0-00342-00069580-00069790 to decide okay so I want to spend time
ylU5pUGkSX0-00343-00069791-00070044 being better at this or this or this or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00344-00070045-00070206 this and you have to give to self in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00345-00070207-00070293 family way to figure out what works for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00346-00070294-00070453 you yes that was one thing that I did
ylU5pUGkSX0-00347-00070454-00070638 when I was like you know what here's my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00348-00070639-00070878 pros here's my cons giving these pros
ylU5pUGkSX0-00349-00070879-00071140 what parts of the industry works for me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00350-00071141-00071232 what are my choices
ylU5pUGkSX0-00351-00071233-00071403 what am i choices yeah focus on that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00352-00071404-00071655 versus trying to be what I wasn't and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00353-00071656-00071781 trying to fit in places where this would
ylU5pUGkSX0-00354-00071782-00071937 never happen and what just doesn't work
ylU5pUGkSX0-00355-00071938-00072294 it just doesn't work okay so that's a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00356-00072295-00072472 tip conditioning Brooke let's talk about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00357-00072473-00072690 the commercial industry so I'm gonna
ylU5pUGkSX0-00358-00072691-00072861 give you what my opinion it's how I see
ylU5pUGkSX0-00359-00072862-00073038 you okay and I want you to correct me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00360-00073039-00073236 because I want to really know more so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00361-00073237-00073380 when I see all the years I've seen you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00362-00073381-00073518 first of all you're by far one of the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00363-00073519-00073794 most talented movers I've ever seen like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00364-00073795-00073986 an exchange to create and I think it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00365-00073987-00074394 like amazing however I feel like I don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00366-00074395-00074781 know um I want to know I don't see I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00367-00074782-00074935 don't know I want to know what is your
ylU5pUGkSX0-00368-00074936-00075240 actual career focus so you teach another
ylU5pUGkSX0-00369-00075241-00075535 you teach you obviously dance but I feel
ylU5pUGkSX0-00370-00075536-00075744 like you've your focus is more in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00371-00075745-00075930 instructing and teaching than it is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00372-00075931-00076251 about being a backup dancer mm-hmm so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00373-00076252-00076401 can you talk just a little bit about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00374-00076402-00076828 that for sure so you know I I just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00375-00076829-00077106 learned to not really put my focus to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00376-00077107-00077335 more than one I used to and I just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00377-00077336-00077553 started to accept the fact that things
ylU5pUGkSX0-00378-00077554-00077665 changed
ylU5pUGkSX0-00379-00077666-00077844 you know like in our industry before you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00380-00077845-00078046 used to have to dance before you before
ylU5pUGkSX0-00381-00078047-00078190 you talk not dance but dance behind
ylU5pUGkSX0-00382-00078191-00078480 artists so and before you taught or had
ylU5pUGkSX0-00383-00078481-00078545 that credit
ylU5pUGkSX0-00384-00078546-00078832 and now that we have like all these
ylU5pUGkSX0-00385-00078833-00079088 different it's like a different
ylU5pUGkSX0-00386-00079089-00079226 millennial almost you know I mean they
ylU5pUGkSX0-00387-00079227-00079523 have social media we have all these
ylU5pUGkSX0-00388-00079524-00079757 outlets where we can actually teach in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00389-00079758-00079949 in like smaller communities or does it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00390-00079950-00080105 have to be professional so we're not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00391-00080106-00080332 crossing any lines but like we can do
ylU5pUGkSX0-00392-00080333-00080557 more than one you know I mean we have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00393-00080558-00080819 the resources do more than one and I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00394-00080820-00081094 just accepted that I've wanted to do all
ylU5pUGkSX0-00395-00081095-00081296 of it and I just I'm open to it you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00396-00081297-00081605 I mean it's it's more about accepting it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00397-00081606-00081773 like kind of like being open to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00398-00081774-00081992 opportunity but the same time still
ylU5pUGkSX0-00399-00081993-00082175 trying to have a focus so I'm balancing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00400-00082176-00082513 those two things I go off of what like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00401-00082514-00082706 how I feel yeah just to be honest like I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00402-00082707-00082925 go off of how I feel okay and and still
ylU5pUGkSX0-00403-00082926-00083165 try not to step over any lines like I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00404-00083166-00083534 try not to you know like for instance I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00405-00083535-00083822 would never try to like choreograph on a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00406-00083823-00083954 job at someone else started
ylU5pUGkSX0-00407-00083955-00084122 choreographing like I just you know this
ylU5pUGkSX0-00408-00084123-00084332 still has to be some kind of ethic okay
ylU5pUGkSX0-00409-00084333-00084569 and the way I run things but you know in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00410-00084570-00084860 terms of a goal like back up dancing is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00411-00084861-00085055 great I just feel like I'm walking back
ylU5pUGkSX0-00412-00085056-00085205 up dance the more experience I get right
ylU5pUGkSX0-00413-00085206-00085631 but why not work feed both right why not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00414-00085632-00085826 I can feed both you know I mean I got
ylU5pUGkSX0-00415-00085827-00086054 just think of it as like each thing that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00416-00086055-00086246 I have is like a kid I get my child
ylU5pUGkSX0-00417-00086247-00086581 dances my child choreographies my child
ylU5pUGkSX0-00418-00086582-00086834 teaching is my child and the more I feed
ylU5pUGkSX0-00419-00086835-00086996 one they work with each other you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00420-00086997-00087155 what I mean and I think that's the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00421-00087156-00087368 beauty of the generation we're in if
ylU5pUGkSX0-00422-00087369-00087548 you're really paying attention and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00423-00087549-00087638 you're really taking in the information
ylU5pUGkSX0-00424-00087639-00087947 and not letting your ego take over what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00425-00087948-00088126 you're doing is really building
ylU5pUGkSX0-00426-00088127-00088388 something mean cuz the more you are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00427-00088389-00088565 relatable to the dancer you understand
ylU5pUGkSX0-00428-00088566-00088739 what to do choreography wise and I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00429-00088740-00088831 living the life right now
ylU5pUGkSX0-00430-00088832-00089051 it wasn't 20 years ago I'm living it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00431-00089052-00089228 right now right and the more I dance I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00432-00089229-00089371 understand what the craic for once
ylU5pUGkSX0-00433-00089372-00089591 teaching wise to I know what I want is a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00434-00089592-00089801 student like like you know the meaning
ylU5pUGkSX0-00435-00089802-00089942 when I don't eat when I'm taking the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00436-00089943-00090086 class I'm like well why is the teacher
ylU5pUGkSX0-00437-00090087-00090226 doing this I want this I want that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00438-00090227-00090413 information why aren't they drilling it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00439-00090414-00090650 like that why are they on the phones you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00440-00090651-00090781 know I mean like things like that like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00441-00090782-00090950 when I'm when I'm a teacher I think
ylU5pUGkSX0-00442-00090951-00091235 about those experiences and I reflect
ylU5pUGkSX0-00443-00091236-00091478 yeah it's all about seeing you and other
ylU5pUGkSX0-00444-00091479-00091769 people yes but still making sure that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00445-00091770-00091836 you're it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00446-00091837-00092031 just you because everything you do art
ylU5pUGkSX0-00447-00092032-00092325 is in my opinion it's for the world yes
ylU5pUGkSX0-00448-00092326-00092478 for the community so it is a little bit
ylU5pUGkSX0-00449-00092479-00092721 of self and and and I love that I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00450-00092722-00092892 living a lifetime and I'm happy about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00451-00092893-00093180 but I believe that if you live a life
ylU5pUGkSX0-00452-00093181-00093441 that's self centered you're not you just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00453-00093442-00093594 you won't be truly happy like I feel
ylU5pUGkSX0-00454-00093595-00093753 like humans in general not to get too
ylU5pUGkSX0-00455-00093754-00094007 deep yeah humans in general our our goal
ylU5pUGkSX0-00456-00094008-00094266 is to help each other you mean so like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00457-00094267-00094524 if you I feel like when it comes to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00458-00094525-00094761 success my success is only when I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00459-00094762-00095007 really helping somebody else right so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00460-00095008-00095199 when I'm playing these three roles and I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00461-00095200-00095426 go back back and forth it's to keep
ylU5pUGkSX0-00462-00095427-00095691 myself humble and relatable to each
ylU5pUGkSX0-00463-00095692-00095973 thing now in terms of the career right
ylU5pUGkSX0-00464-00095974-00096261 dancing I do backup here and there
ylU5pUGkSX0-00465-00096262-00096486 I do guest performing a person like yes
ylU5pUGkSX0-00466-00096487-00096632 performing because it's more special I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00467-00096633-00096981 mean come on you yeah and you get paid
ylU5pUGkSX0-00468-00096982-00097071 you're right
ylU5pUGkSX0-00469-00097072-00097269 and you work on like you mean like it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00470-00097270-00097470 great I got to get perform for a taxi
ylU5pUGkSX0-00471-00097471-00097884 ballet Tokyo company what else have I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00472-00097885-00098259 done like for like all these teams in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00473-00098260-00098466 Jersey you know I mean it just it feels
ylU5pUGkSX0-00474-00098467-00098736 great and then in terms of choreography
ylU5pUGkSX0-00475-00098737-00098892 I do a little more insisting on assist
ylU5pUGkSX0-00476-00098893-00099105 certain certain choreographers on little
ylU5pUGkSX0-00477-00099106-00099324 things here and there but most of my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00478-00099325-00099501 focus is like teaching and just dancing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00479-00099502-00099707 and just training just juggling those
ylU5pUGkSX0-00480-00099708-00099891 three and choreography I'm just not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00481-00099892-00100047 really rushing that like yeah because I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00482-00100048-00100263 can always create you know my mind is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00483-00100264-00100518 just I love to create so it's normal for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00484-00100519-00100680 me and I feel like I need to do this
ylU5pUGkSX0-00485-00100681-00100854 before my body kind of like you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00486-00100855-00101351 yeah gives in a little bit yeah good so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00487-00101352-00101535 I love a few things you just touched on
ylU5pUGkSX0-00488-00101536-00101928 you talked about how are kind of the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00489-00101929-00102129 most happy when you're able to give back
ylU5pUGkSX0-00490-00102130-00102339 in some way yeah and then just also the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00491-00102340-00102632 fact that you feel like I love all these
ylU5pUGkSX0-00492-00102633-00102809 things I'm gonna do them all and I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00493-00102810-00102932 reason why I'm pointing that out because
ylU5pUGkSX0-00494-00102933-00103173 I want to make a note to just say that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00495-00103174-00103296 like you don't have to be the most
ylU5pUGkSX0-00496-00103297-00103481 successful person in the world you don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00497-00103482-00103629 have to have all this money in the world
ylU5pUGkSX0-00498-00103630-00103955 to create an initiative to give it back
ylU5pUGkSX0-00499-00103956-00104132 yeah you didn't mean you can start
ylU5pUGkSX0-00500-00104133-00104439 anywhere and I mean I truly believe in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00501-00104440-00104657 living a life of service you know it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00502-00104658-00104854 like it's not about me anymore it's big
ylU5pUGkSX0-00503-00104855-00105031 me but I'm the reason why I wanted to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00504-00105032-00105154 point that out because there are people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00505-00105155-00105397 out there in this industry that they had
ylU5pUGkSX0-00506-00105398-00105652 this habit of waiting and this idea of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00507-00105653-00105889 like no I can't be a teacher until I was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00508-00105890-00106117 a dancer then I can't be a choreographer
ylU5pUGkSX0-00509-00106118-00106252 until I was a teacher and then I can't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00510-00106253-00106434 it's like they're waiting on these like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00511-00106435-00106663 who's who created these limitations who
ylU5pUGkSX0-00512-00106664-00106804 said that you don't have something to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00513-00106805-00107002 teach now again it's up to you to know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00514-00107003-00107155 whether you do have something like that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00515-00107156-00107320 don't it's a balance right it's a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00516-00107321-00107602 balance but my point is you don't have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00517-00107603-00107953 to wait to act on the things that you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00518-00107954-00108127 passionate about because at the end of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00519-00108128-00108406 the day you're getting practice as you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00520-00108407-00108628 as you do it yes you got it much clearer
ylU5pUGkSX0-00521-00108629-00108799 yeah that's how you're gonna know if you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00522-00108800-00108982 even like doing it one that's how you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00523-00108983-00109105 gonna know to whether you even good at
ylU5pUGkSX0-00524-00109106-00109321 doing it you got to start then from
ylU5pUGkSX0-00525-00109322-00109465 there and you're gonna get better at it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00526-00109466-00109669 you're gonna let some things go you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00527-00109670-00109798 gonna figure out how to make them all
ylU5pUGkSX0-00528-00109799-00110005 work together and merge them so but if
ylU5pUGkSX0-00529-00110006-00110182 the point is just don't wait do
ylU5pUGkSX0-00530-00110183-00110308 everything that you're passionate about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00531-00110308-00110460 and just figure out that balance of how
ylU5pUGkSX0-00532-00110461-00110644 to juggle them yeah so speaking of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00533-00110645-00110934 earlier you mentioned you know back then
ylU5pUGkSX0-00534-00110935-00111186 you have to have been a dancer that's a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00535-00111188-00111349 dance behind somebody in order to move
ylU5pUGkSX0-00536-00111350-00111526 on to the teaching route or choreography
ylU5pUGkSX0-00537-00111527-00111778 route today we have social media
ylU5pUGkSX0-00538-00111779-00111988 platforms they have kind of in a way
ylU5pUGkSX0-00539-00111989-00112150 created some shortcuts around these
ylU5pUGkSX0-00540-00112151-00112423 things now you know again even back then
ylU5pUGkSX0-00541-00112424-00112582 you in order to be even in the dance
ylU5pUGkSX0-00542-00112583-00112732 initially you had to move to a major
ylU5pUGkSX0-00543-00112733-00112888 city like New York or LA to even be
ylU5pUGkSX0-00544-00112889-00113109 connected to this now it's as easy as
ylU5pUGkSX0-00545-00113110-00113338 uploading yourself and you've exposed
ylU5pUGkSX0-00546-00113339-00113436 yourself to the world
ylU5pUGkSX0-00547-00113438-00113722 so people have their opinions on whether
ylU5pUGkSX0-00548-00113723-00113881 or not social medias go too bad when it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00549-00113882-00114046 comes to our industry and specific
ylU5pUGkSX0-00550-00114047-00114292 comes to our industry specifically but I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00551-00114293-00114406 wanna know what you have paint on do you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00552-00114407-00114580 think the social media age is great for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00553-00114581-00114676 I'm gonna show you what do you think
ylU5pUGkSX0-00554-00114677-00115015 it's bad or a little bit about both I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00555-00115016-00115174 feel like it's like anything in our
ylU5pUGkSX0-00556-00115175-00115255 world mm-hmm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00557-00115256-00115573 you know I feel like it's I mean you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00558-00115574-00115801 gotta think about it the negative thing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00559-00115802-00116056 that comes with social media is already
ylU5pUGkSX0-00560-00116057-00116467 in our nature as humans it's just 9 to 5
ylU5pUGkSX0-00561-00116468-00116767 times 10 so what I don't understand is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00562-00116768-00117064 why I see the person I see the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00563-00117065-00117133 perspective
ylU5pUGkSX0-00564-00117133-00117388 I try to see both sides but at the same
ylU5pUGkSX0-00565-00117389-00117757 time social media has done allowed so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00566-00117758-00117958 much opportunity for us people that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00567-00117958-00118043 don't have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00568-00118044-00118319 you know or people like me and you who
ylU5pUGkSX0-00569-00118320-00118508 grew up without social media right and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00570-00118508-00118679 then when we became adults we have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00571-00118680-00118847 social media okay like I wouldn't be
ylU5pUGkSX0-00572-00118848-00119240 able to I just I see so much potential
ylU5pUGkSX0-00573-00119241-00119414 yeah like anybody that is a dreamer or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00574-00119415-00119732 sees big big things for themselves and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00575-00119733-00119954 for other people around them it's just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00576-00119955-00120188 really hard not to see how big and how
ylU5pUGkSX0-00577-00120189-00120464 how much how much of use social media
ylU5pUGkSX0-00578-00120465-00120629 can be right because if you think about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00579-00120630-00120833 it I just look at like Airbnb and uber
ylU5pUGkSX0-00580-00120833-00120971 and stuff like that like they don't even
ylU5pUGkSX0-00581-00120972-00121154 own they don't own the places but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00582-00121155-00121472 somehow they can sell and rent out homes
ylU5pUGkSX0-00583-00121473-00121655 right same with uber and on top of that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00584-00121656-00121909 like yeah I mean I can just get around
ylU5pUGkSX0-00585-00121910-00122105 anywhere it's all for my app you know I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00586-00122106-00122345 can I can make I can reach to people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00587-00122346-00122702 without using like MySpace or you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00588-00122703-00122888 actual connections right now is there
ylU5pUGkSX0-00589-00122889-00123089 negatives with social media tons but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00590-00123090-00123251 there's a lot more positives and there's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00591-00123252-00123545 a lot more a lot more opportunity and I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00592-00123546-00123811 feel like in our day and age as you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00593-00123813-00124115 we we keep multiplying its people and so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00594-00124116-00124328 the more opportunities the better yeah I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00595-00124329-00124601 mean I think that whatever excuse people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00596-00124602-00124802 try to use to make it make it seem like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00597-00124803-00125066 it's a bad thing it's really them trying
ylU5pUGkSX0-00598-00125067-00125270 to project who they aren't you know what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00599-00125271-00125489 they feel like how they see it you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00600-00125490-00125639 I mean the things that they want to do
ylU5pUGkSX0-00601-00125640-00125876 with it you know of course is like you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00602-00125877-00126163 know I'm not gonna like try to X out or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00603-00126164-00126484 kind of like put a put a cap on some of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00604-00126485-00126794 the bad stuff with social media like you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00605-00126795-00127133 know bad publicity and like you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00606-00127133-00127352 kids being like stars at a young age and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00607-00127353-00127604 not and not being not leaving regular
ylU5pUGkSX0-00608-00127605-00127817 lives but at the same time there's how
ylU5pUGkSX0-00609-00127818-00127967 can that how can that be an excuse when
ylU5pUGkSX0-00610-00127968-00128120 there's tons of kids that are superstars
ylU5pUGkSX0-00611-00128121-00128294 on social media there's still their
ylU5pUGkSX0-00612-00128295-00128363 regular lives
ylU5pUGkSX0-00613-00128364-00128528 yeah and that's cuz their parents or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00614-00128529-00128696 whatever like whatever is behind them
ylU5pUGkSX0-00615-00128697-00128891 supporting them yeah it's not social
ylU5pUGkSX0-00616-00128892-00129188 media it's really the core of the person
ylU5pUGkSX0-00617-00129189-00129380 or the core the family agreed and the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00618-00129381-00129566 multiplied times 10 social media is just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00619-00129567-00129725 multiplying that the same as a person
ylU5pUGkSX0-00620-00129726-00129875 seeming person that's either
ylU5pUGkSX0-00621-00129876-00130079 self-obsessed or trying to be about
ylU5pUGkSX0-00622-00130080-00130358 themselves and then Oh social media made
ylU5pUGkSX0-00623-00130358-00130556 them that way actually it's just cuz
ylU5pUGkSX0-00624-00130557-00130691 that's who they were truly right and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00625-00130692-00130861 it's social media just mattify I agree
ylU5pUGkSX0-00626-00130863-00131038 so that's why I don't really think that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00627-00131039-00131314 it's bad it's it's just a tool it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00628-00131315-00131521 another tool yeah it's otherwise TV
ylU5pUGkSX0-00629-00131522-00131737 would be the same thing otherwise it'll
ylU5pUGkSX0-00630-00131738-00131857 be the same thing music
ylU5pUGkSX0-00631-00131858-00131998 there's people that make good music talk
ylU5pUGkSX0-00632-00131999-00132141 about good stuff there's people that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00633-00132142-00132358 make music and talk about bad stuff or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00634-00132359-00132568 things that isn't there aren't really
ylU5pUGkSX0-00635-00132569-00132790 helpful to our world in me so I just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00636-00132791-00132928 feel like it's another tool that's just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00637-00132929-00132982 my opinion
ylU5pUGkSX0-00638-00132983-00133222 yeah I'm having a lot of I'm very
ylU5pUGkSX0-00639-00133223-00133357 traditional when it comes to my work
ylU5pUGkSX0-00640-00133358-00133585 ethic like I love being out in the real
ylU5pUGkSX0-00641-00133586-00133750 world I love meeting people in real life
ylU5pUGkSX0-00642-00133751-00133951 I love showing that like I could put in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00643-00133952-00134143 the work for real however I don't see
ylU5pUGkSX0-00644-00134144-00134389 anything wrong with social media however
ylU5pUGkSX0-00645-00134390-00134599 I do want to point out that like in the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00646-00134600-00134722 beginning with social media first came
ylU5pUGkSX0-00647-00134723-00134863 around especially the dance industry
ylU5pUGkSX0-00648-00134864-00135066 when people were just posting any and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00649-00135067-00135313 everything in class messing up doing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00650-00135314-00135511 that I was like guys like do you realize
ylU5pUGkSX0-00651-00135512-00135778 that you're putting like flaws out there
ylU5pUGkSX0-00652-00135779-00135922 like why the hell would you do that but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00653-00135923-00136090 I get it it's great to kind of show
ylU5pUGkSX0-00654-00136091-00136309 progress and kind of show you as you get
ylU5pUGkSX0-00655-00136310-00136441 better at whatever is it you're working
ylU5pUGkSX0-00656-00136442-00136627 on yes but it's just one thing that I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00657-00136628-00136804 want to point out is that once I grasp
ylU5pUGkSX0-00658-00136805-00137020 the idea of the fact that like the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00659-00137021-00137299 Internet is the one place that connects
ylU5pUGkSX0-00660-00137300-00137464 you to everyone in the world everybody
ylU5pUGkSX0-00661-00137465-00137806 the one place so when you really realize
ylU5pUGkSX0-00662-00137807-00137995 like between YouTube and Instagram
ylU5pUGkSX0-00663-00137996-00138298 Facebook Twitter it's literally a free
ylU5pUGkSX0-00664-00138299-00138664 platform of free resource to introduce
ylU5pUGkSX0-00665-00138665-00138991 yourself to everybody in the world why
ylU5pUGkSX0-00666-00138992-00139165 would you not take advantage of that so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00667-00139166-00139351 that's when I really exist in my head
ylU5pUGkSX0-00668-00139352-00139504 and I was like why would I not take
ylU5pUGkSX0-00669-00139505-00139657 advantage of that there are people out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00670-00139658-00139870 there making thousands to millions of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00671-00139871-00140179 dollars being a youtuber or Instagram
ylU5pUGkSX0-00672-00140180-00140386 making spinners yeah yeah you don't mean
ylU5pUGkSX0-00673-00140387-00140596 and putting themselves out there not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00674-00140597-00140728 being afraid to put themselves out there
ylU5pUGkSX0-00675-00140729-00140947 and use these resources so it's like I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00676-00140948-00141136 just want to point out that if you are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00677-00141137-00141283 someone out that if you yeah if you are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00678-00141284-00141388 someone out there that has a negative
ylU5pUGkSX0-00679-00141389-00141751 view toward social media just do some
ylU5pUGkSX0-00680-00141752-00141886 more research and just realize what I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00681-00141887-00142015 said how big of a deal that is this is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00682-00142016-00142201 the one place that can expose you to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00683-00142202-00142369 everybody in the world you never know if
ylU5pUGkSX0-00684-00142370-00142483 you're talented if you go out what you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00685-00142484-00142684 do somebody will pay attention to you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00686-00142685-00142900 you're gonna mean and also just to add
ylU5pUGkSX0-00687-00142901-00143113 on to that before we move on don't ever
ylU5pUGkSX0-00688-00143114-00143413 be afraid to put your own ideas out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00689-00143414-00143623 sometimes it's not always about somebody
ylU5pUGkSX0-00690-00143624-00143788 recognizing you somebody giving you an
ylU5pUGkSX0-00691-00143789-00143962 opportunity sometimes you said I have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00692-00143963-00144175 the guts in the balls to create your own
ylU5pUGkSX0-00693-00144176-00144285 yeah
ylU5pUGkSX0-00694-00144286-00144466 situations your own production to put
ylU5pUGkSX0-00695-00144467-00144610 your own ideas out there let's talk
ylU5pUGkSX0-00696-00144611-00144772 about straighten you can dance was it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00697-00144773-00145057 Ukraine you think you did yeah how did
ylU5pUGkSX0-00698-00145058-00145450 that come about well so Tokyo I work
ylU5pUGkSX0-00699-00145451-00145624 closely with Tokyo and he was a judge
ylU5pUGkSX0-00700-00145625-00145999 and so you think okay now some people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00701-00146000-00146419 may think that he brought me on as in I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00702-00146420-00146584 didn't have to do anything and it was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00703-00146585-00146788 actually the exact opposite he just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00704-00146789-00147058 threw me in and they had an
ylU5pUGkSX0-00705-00147059-00147279 international season do you have anyone
ylU5pUGkSX0-00706-00147280-00147487 that is willing to compete and he didn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00707-00147488-00147654 love me through anything he had
ylU5pUGkSX0-00708-00147655-00147928 everybody else decide if I was good
ylU5pUGkSX0-00709-00147929-00148135 enough or if I was right for the show
ylU5pUGkSX0-00710-00148136-00148459 and each time I had to pay for my flight
ylU5pUGkSX0-00711-00148460-00148840 to go oh it's time you don't mean so you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00712-00148841-00149065 know for anyone bet thinks that he gave
ylU5pUGkSX0-00713-00149066-00149346 me that you're actually really wrong
ylU5pUGkSX0-00714-00149347-00149632 really hard just to get that it wasn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00715-00149633-00149841 paid it was just for it was for my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00716-00149842-00150070 exposure it was for me to reach out to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00717-00150071-00150352 another country I want to take my dance
ylU5pUGkSX0-00718-00150353-00150553 my personal experience with dance around
ylU5pUGkSX0-00719-00150554-00150715 the world I mean and that was my first
ylU5pUGkSX0-00720-00150716-00150889 step is going to Ukraine and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00721-00150890-00151072 experiencing something new a new culture
ylU5pUGkSX0-00722-00151073-00151443 and just like you know trying to make
ylU5pUGkSX0-00723-00151444-00151762 make a journey for myself yeah I mean so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00724-00151763-00151945 leverage let's talk about leverage so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00725-00151946-00152304 usually when people you know as an
ylU5pUGkSX0-00726-00152305-00152470 average viewer when I'm watching TV and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00727-00152471-00152640 I see shows like So You Think or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00728-00152641-00152790 America's Next Top Model
ylU5pUGkSX0-00729-00152791-00152959 all these competition based reality
ylU5pUGkSX0-00730-00152960-00153202 shows sometimes you have this idea that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00731-00153203-00153390 people that are on them especially they
ylU5pUGkSX0-00732-00153391-00153532 get far they come off and all of a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00733-00153533-00153601 sudden they have all these opportunities
ylU5pUGkSX0-00734-00153602-00153763 handed to them and they're big in the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00735-00153764-00153972 industry what was your experience like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00736-00153973-00154329 transitioning out of the show um if any
ylU5pUGkSX0-00737-00154330-00154486 what are something what are some ways
ylU5pUGkSX0-00738-00154487-00154783 you leveraged that exposure into what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00739-00154784-00154888 you're currently pursuing your career
ylU5pUGkSX0-00740-00154889-00155107 and then on top of that I'll repeat them
ylU5pUGkSX0-00741-00155108-00155316 if you need me to yeah what is the goal
ylU5pUGkSX0-00742-00155317-00155476 right now what is it that Kyle wants to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00743-00155477-00155998 do with his brand with his career so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00744-00155999-00156144 I'll go back that's the first part is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00745-00156145-00156379 yeah so what was what was it like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00746-00156380-00156467 traditional off
ylU5pUGkSX0-00747-00156468-00156812 so transitioning off the show was very a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00748-00156813-00157033 lot easier than I thought
ylU5pUGkSX0-00749-00157034-00157328 you know I was in and out of LA so the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00750-00157329-00157559 moment I finished the show the first
ylU5pUGkSX0-00751-00157560-00157730 thing I did was just go right back into
ylU5pUGkSX0-00752-00157731-00157940 training mm-hmm now I'm always training
ylU5pUGkSX0-00753-00157941-00158123 no matter what and then just finding the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00754-00158124-00158299 flow back into LA like teaching
ylU5pUGkSX0-00755-00158300-00158486 reconnecting with my students reaching
ylU5pUGkSX0-00756-00158487-00158951 out again auditioning putting myself out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00757-00158952-00159110 there more as a dancer because I had
ylU5pUGkSX0-00758-00159111-00159364 more I was auditioning but I wasn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00759-00159365-00159647 going as hard as I thought I was okay so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00760-00159648-00159863 it gave me more fuel and more passion to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00761-00159864-00160124 kind of like you know put myself out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00762-00160125-00160334 there dance wise know that because I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00763-00160335-00160508 mean I'm always dancing it's not that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00764-00160509-00160649 I'm not dancing I just wasn't doing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00765-00160650-00160864 industry stuff I wasn't trying to like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00766-00160865-00161105 having fun every single choreographer
ylU5pUGkSX0-00767-00161106-00161252 every single audition I just felt like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00768-00161253-00161639 you know it was not pointless but I just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00769-00161640-00161747 wasn't feeling it right you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00770-00161748-00161915 clapping yeah I'm going off of his
ylU5pUGkSX0-00771-00161916-00162143 feeling for the feel of how I feel at
ylU5pUGkSX0-00772-00162144-00162359 the moment okay I mean so or in that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00773-00162360-00162524 season at least for those like three or
ylU5pUGkSX0-00774-00162525-00162707 four months but when I came back it was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00775-00162708-00162791 a lot easier than I thought
ylU5pUGkSX0-00776-00162792-00162899 I just turned right back into
ylU5pUGkSX0-00777-00162900-00163202 auditioning and did job after job kept
ylU5pUGkSX0-00778-00163203-00163478 teaching and just overall trying to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00779-00163479-00163772 learn from all my experiences ya know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00780-00163773-00164186 with Ukraine it definitely increased my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00781-00164187-00164405 following cuz I have like some fans in
ylU5pUGkSX0-00782-00164406-00164693 Ukraine being on the show and making it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00783-00164694-00165130 to like top six but really I just like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00784-00165131-00165395 my number one goal was to eventually go
ylU5pUGkSX0-00785-00165396-00165653 out there and teach okay so just travel
ylU5pUGkSX0-00786-00165654-00165950 and keep that consistency keep that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00787-00165951-00166196 Network and having you know follow me so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00788-00166197-00166430 really it was just to grab their
ylU5pUGkSX0-00789-00166431-00166598 attention and make sure that you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00790-00166599-00166820 this is me at the show and now watch me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00791-00166821-00166958 grow and I'm gonna come back and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00792-00166959-00167138 impressive even more okay do you feel
ylU5pUGkSX0-00793-00167139-00167399 like um my next question was gonna be
ylU5pUGkSX0-00794-00167400-00167600 were there any expectations going you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00795-00167601-00167726 might think that you wanted to get out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00796-00167727-00167864 of it which you just kind of address so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00797-00167865-00168035 you feel like now that you're off the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00798-00168036-00168206 show that you've made any progress
ylU5pUGkSX0-00799-00168207-00168506 towards that that's a result of being on
ylU5pUGkSX0-00800-00168507-00169046 the show yes and no I think I try to go
ylU5pUGkSX0-00801-00169047-00169364 into things with no expectation which is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00802-00169365-00169613 a lot harder than people think
ylU5pUGkSX0-00803-00169614-00169841 just not for my disappointment but just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00804-00169842-00169997 because I want to let experienced at
ylU5pUGkSX0-00805-00169998-00170186 first I want to experience it and let
ylU5pUGkSX0-00806-00170187-00170392 that guide me instead of like have a pre
ylU5pUGkSX0-00807-00170393-00170747 destined kind of a fate in my head okay
ylU5pUGkSX0-00808-00170748-00170912 does that make sense yeah it makes sense
ylU5pUGkSX0-00809-00170913-00171074 like you know cuz I don't want to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00810-00171075-00171200 disappoint myself I don't want to take
ylU5pUGkSX0-00811-00171201-00171371 myself out of it I just want to be able
ylU5pUGkSX0-00812-00171372-00171617 to accept it and then decide at the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00813-00171618-00171791 moment what I want because you never
ylU5pUGkSX0-00814-00171792-00171932 know until you get there your mind just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00815-00171933-00172097 gonna change it's good to plan I think
ylU5pUGkSX0-00816-00172098-00172268 it's good to plan but I just try to find
ylU5pUGkSX0-00817-00172269-00172457 a balance between the two everything's a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00818-00172458-00172805 balance for me and then coming out
ylU5pUGkSX0-00819-00172806-00173204 coming out of that my I think I had a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00820-00173205-00173459 small expectation to stay teams for a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00821-00173460-00173678 little bit but I think I had more of a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00822-00173679-00173843 hunger to go back to LA and do my thing
ylU5pUGkSX0-00823-00173844-00174176 I think it was a I think as I've been
ylU5pUGkSX0-00824-00174177-00174383 there so much the process is way longer
ylU5pUGkSX0-00825-00174384-00174560 than the regular so you think in America
ylU5pUGkSX0-00826-00174561-00174848 it's kind of like all year long so I was
ylU5pUGkSX0-00827-00174849-00175028 going back every two or three months and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00828-00175029-00175208 it was just like killing my energy a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00829-00175209-00175478 little bit so I had to like refuel in LA
ylU5pUGkSX0-00830-00175479-00175685 and do my thing and maybe go back maybe
ylU5pUGkSX0-00831-00175686-00175850 I'll go back next year but you know I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00832-00175851-00175997 just got caught up with work out here
ylU5pUGkSX0-00833-00175998-00176252 and okay and really trying to connect
ylU5pUGkSX0-00834-00176253-00176351 with everybody in the States
ylU5pUGkSX0-00835-00176352-00176660 no I think I just try to make that too
ylU5pUGkSX0-00836-00176661-00176828 big I was trying out the teacher didn't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00837-00176829-00176996 internationally which I do sometimes but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00838-00176997-00177302 it's mostly in the country
ylU5pUGkSX0-00839-00177303-00177539 so I think I've wanted to get a few of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00840-00177540-00177734 that first before leaving the country oh
ylU5pUGkSX0-00841-00177735-00177988 yeah so yeah I mean like I said from
ylU5pUGkSX0-00842-00177989-00178238 knowing you for a couple years and just
ylU5pUGkSX0-00843-00178239-00178481 kind of seeing what you do from afar and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00844-00178482-00178616 just also be a creative pressure on
ylU5pUGkSX0-00845-00178617-00178775 myself like it's a lot of things to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00846-00178776-00178961 balance especially when when you're
ylU5pUGkSX0-00847-00178962-00179231 juggling a lot of different avenues of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00848-00179232-00179468 it and not just focus on one one career
ylU5pUGkSX0-00849-00179469-00179759 yeah path gets heck bomb so I guess my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00850-00179760-00180167 next question for you is as an artist
ylU5pUGkSX0-00851-00180168-00180440 it's very easy for an O or a situation
ylU5pUGkSX0-00852-00180441-00180608 to make you like you know what forget
ylU5pUGkSX0-00853-00180609-00180809 this I'm gonna go do something else I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00854-00180810-00181103 gonna go get a job what is it that that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00855-00181104-00181259 drives you what keeps you going what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00856-00181260-00181406 makes you what is it that when you wake
ylU5pUGkSX0-00857-00181407-00181508 up in the morning like you know what I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00858-00181509-00181712 doing this because of this what's your
ylU5pUGkSX0-00859-00181713-00181949 what's your why I think the overall
ylU5pUGkSX0-00860-00181950-00182147 general idea is just to be grateful
ylU5pUGkSX0-00861-00182148-00182507 grateful and a lot of times especially
ylU5pUGkSX0-00862-00182508-00182792 in our generation we aren't grateful we
ylU5pUGkSX0-00863-00182793-00182912 don't understand that we have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00864-00182913-00183119 food water and a roof over our head and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00865-00183120-00183335 we have a chance to have more and we
ylU5pUGkSX0-00866-00183336-00183803 always look for an excuse to not go for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00867-00183804-00184070 more because we want to be fancy and we
ylU5pUGkSX0-00868-00184071-00184268 want to have nice cars we want to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00869-00184269-00184574 impress people whereas if you just enjoy
ylU5pUGkSX0-00870-00184575-00184766 where you're at it's like for me finding
ylU5pUGkSX0-00871-00184767-00184955 a balance of like okay I can do more I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00872-00184956-00185291 want to do better for myself but that's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00873-00185292-00185441 not what's gonna make me happy I'm happy
ylU5pUGkSX0-00874-00185442-00185663 with what I have now okay but then I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00875-00185664-00185849 hungry so it's like happy and hungry
ylU5pUGkSX0-00876-00185850-00186014 together and for me that's what keeps me
ylU5pUGkSX0-00877-00186015-00186230 going is understanding that there's a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00878-00186231-00186515 possibility to get better but then
ylU5pUGkSX0-00879-00186516-00186665 that's also not the determination of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00880-00186666-00186836 what I'm happy or not because if it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00881-00186837-00187031 doesn't work out like again we always
ylU5pUGkSX0-00882-00187032-00187250 have the nose yeah like I'm just gonna
ylU5pUGkSX0-00883-00187251-00187454 be upset which is normal as well but I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00884-00187455-00187571 saying I'm saying like depressed
ylU5pUGkSX0-00885-00187572-00187739 depressed like down down and you don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00886-00187740-00187907 want to do anything yeah I felt that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00887-00187908-00188156 before and and really is what happens is
ylU5pUGkSX0-00888-00188157-00188579 I just I kind of set myself in a way
ylU5pUGkSX0-00889-00188580-00188834 that you know I start to put my
ylU5pUGkSX0-00890-00188835-00189029 happiness and things and accomplishments
ylU5pUGkSX0-00891-00189030-00189275 whereas I can't let it be a balance like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00892-00189276-00189521 I shouldn't you should always of course
ylU5pUGkSX0-00893-00189522-00189680 you'd always try to accomplish more but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00894-00189681-00189929 and go for more yeah but I think it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00895-00189930-00190154 bouncing that and trying to still be
ylU5pUGkSX0-00896-00190155-00190244 happy where you're at because when
ylU5pUGkSX0-00897-00190245-00190391 you're happy and when you're grateful
ylU5pUGkSX0-00898-00190392-00190691 for what you have you're aware of those
ylU5pUGkSX0-00899-00190692-00190805 kind of things you know I mean you don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00900-00190806-00191000 let those kind of things steer you have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00901-00191001-00191306 a moral compass and I think the next
ylU5pUGkSX0-00902-00191307-00191513 thing my final thing to say about that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00903-00191514-00191900 is there's always a chance there's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00904-00191901-00192107 always a chance so it's like playing the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00905-00192108-00192353 lotto yeah there's a lot you can play
ylU5pUGkSX0-00906-00192354-00192575 the lotto right and somebody can be like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00907-00192576-00192692 why are you doing that just that's so
ylU5pUGkSX0-00908-00192693-00192746 stupid
ylU5pUGkSX0-00909-00192747-00193010 like you're wasting your money you know
ylU5pUGkSX0-00910-00193011-00193154 I mean I'll say all right cool but I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00911-00193155-00193271 thought what if I don't play the lotto
ylU5pUGkSX0-00912-00193272-00193544 do you think I'll win no and I was like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00913-00193545-00193724 ok but if I played a lot I'll have that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00914-00193725-00193997 1% if I do well you know I do win what
ylU5pUGkSX0-00915-00193998-00194246 happens you know I mean it looks like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00916-00194247-00194471 it's weird like it's like if I don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00917-00194472-00194750 take that chance like I can try again
ylU5pUGkSX0-00918-00194751-00194897 again I can try again the next day
ylU5pUGkSX0-00919-00194898-00195233 but if I for sure like don't even try at
ylU5pUGkSX0-00920-00195234-00195611 all right like I mean you do chances are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00921-00195612-00195773 zero anyway yeah so you might as well go
ylU5pUGkSX0-00922-00195774-00196001 right not wake up the next day and try
ylU5pUGkSX0-00923-00196002-00196061 again
ylU5pUGkSX0-00924-00196062-00196310 that's that's what keeps me up like a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00925-00196311-00196511 lot of people are crippled by that fear
ylU5pUGkSX0-00926-00196512-00196726 or what people think of them I mean like
ylU5pUGkSX0-00927-00196727-00196939 I have times where I like I think man
ylU5pUGkSX0-00928-00196940-00197156 someone's someone soul was thinking that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00929-00197157-00197351 I shouldn't be doing this and like after
ylU5pUGkSX0-00930-00197352-00197525 a while you should be like who cares but
ylU5pUGkSX0-00931-00197526-00197827 because it's not like you're just if
ylU5pUGkSX0-00932-00197828-00197963 your decisions are based on other
ylU5pUGkSX0-00933-00197964-00198122 people's thinking then you might as well
ylU5pUGkSX0-00934-00198123-00198326 not make any decisions at all that's the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00935-00198327-00198533 way you dress the way you eat so he let
ylU5pUGkSX0-00936-00198534-00198656 that effect you could why not do the
ylU5pUGkSX0-00937-00198657-00198790 same with your career right you know I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00938-00198791-00199066 mean of course there's still ethics and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00939-00199067-00199252 being relatable to people not being
ylU5pUGkSX0-00940-00199253-00199503 selfish right but there's still a way to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00941-00199504-00199772 go for what you want and not let people
ylU5pUGkSX0-00942-00199773-00199943 like steer you wrong right and try to
ylU5pUGkSX0-00943-00199944-00200120 like put you down because it's very easy
ylU5pUGkSX0-00944-00200121-00200278 especially in a competitive industry
ylU5pUGkSX0-00945-00200279-00200483 what everybody's trying it yeah they
ylU5pUGkSX0-00946-00200484-00200612 won't even realize that they're doing it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00947-00200613-00200791 so that's why you have to build that you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00948-00200792-00201044 have to be that everlasting battery of
ylU5pUGkSX0-00949-00201045-00201233 gratefulness because when you are
ylU5pUGkSX0-00950-00201234-00201398 everybody else feels like they you have
ylU5pUGkSX0-00951-00201399-00201656 to be grateful you know I mean like for
ylU5pUGkSX0-00952-00201657-00201904 example I could have all I could have a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00953-00201905-00202196 comfortable home and a car and work and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00954-00202197-00202385 I you know I could be still sad I don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00955-00202386-00202615 have a better job or anybody but I still
ylU5pUGkSX0-00956-00202616-00202823 living on someone else's couch driving
ylU5pUGkSX0-00957-00202824-00202951 around auditioning they're like I love
ylU5pUGkSX0-00958-00202952-00203270 doing I love this and sometimes that's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00959-00203271-00203554 what it takes for me to be Wow but I'm I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00960-00203555-00203795 love what I'm at right but the same time
ylU5pUGkSX0-00961-00203796-00203909 I'm still going to go for more but now
ylU5pUGkSX0-00962-00203910-00204064 I'm at a better place I can make a
ylU5pUGkSX0-00963-00204065-00204391 decision yeah and be be clear you know I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00964-00204392-00204589 mean and I think it's really being
ylU5pUGkSX0-00965-00204590-00204862 grateful and understanding that there's
ylU5pUGkSX0-00966-00204863-00205033 always if there's a possibility I'm
ylU5pUGkSX0-00967-00205034-00205229 gonna fight for it right I mean I'm not
ylU5pUGkSX0-00968-00205230-00205448 gonna let life and all those complicated
ylU5pUGkSX0-00969-00205448-00205696 things like bring me down because if I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00970-00205698-00205864 if I do I'm staying down there and you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00971-00205865-00206035 know absolutely you just have to get up
ylU5pUGkSX0-00972-00206036-00206180 that's that's what it is that's life
ylU5pUGkSX0-00973-00206181-00206515 yeah a world or in the arts like you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00974-00206516-00206638 gotta fight you gotta fight for what you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00975-00206639-00206909 got yeah and
ylU5pUGkSX0-00976-00206910-00207094 with that pretty highly because I think
ylU5pUGkSX0-00977-00207096-00207365 that around the time when I first moved
ylU5pUGkSX0-00978-00207366-00207494 into you're gonna just start having
ylU5pUGkSX0-00979-00207494-00207638 these different ideas about things that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00980-00207639-00207809 I wanted to do I did have those moments
ylU5pUGkSX0-00981-00207810-00207977 where I'm like wait I'm not ready yet
ylU5pUGkSX0-00982-00207978-00208115 what are people gonna think which is no
ylU5pUGkSX0-00983-00208116-00208352 that's human it's yeah I'm not I don't
ylU5pUGkSX0-00984-00208353-00208541 want to feel all right invincible right
ylU5pUGkSX0-00985-00208542-00208796 but now that's the Montek that I've
ylU5pUGkSX0-00986-00208796-00209009 adapted where it's like I just got to do
ylU5pUGkSX0-00987-00209010-00209141 what I want to do and I gonna do it
ylU5pUGkSX0-00988-00209142-00209351 makes me happy you know I mean and you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00989-00209352-00209525 know like this past year moving to LA
ylU5pUGkSX0-00990-00209526-00209657 and kind of figuring out more and more
ylU5pUGkSX0-00991-00209658-00209837 about what I really really loved what I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00992-00209838-00209996 want to create put out into the world I
ylU5pUGkSX0-00993-00209996-00210179 had a pretty good year and although
ylU5pUGkSX0-00994-00210180-00210335 people can look out and they think oh
ylU5pUGkSX0-00995-00210336-00210526 I'm definitely at a person that
ylU5pUGkSX0-00996-00210527-00210827 associates money or success with being
ylU5pUGkSX0-00997-00210828-00211040 happy I mean I believe in doing what you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00998-00211041-00211187 love is what's gonna truly make you
ylU5pUGkSX0-00999-00211188-00211286 happy you know and like you mentioned
ylU5pUGkSX0-01000-00211287-00211508 earlier today living a life of service
ylU5pUGkSX0-01001-00211509-00211859 and serving others yeah but like you
ylU5pUGkSX0-01002-00211860-00212138 said I go for more every year because I
ylU5pUGkSX0-01003-00212139-00212291 can yeah because I know that it's
ylU5pUGkSX0-01004-00212292-00212534 possible you mean so I definitely really
ylU5pUGkSX0-01005-00212535-00212657 really want to encourage everybody if
ylU5pUGkSX0-01006-00212658-00212807 you take nothing away from today like
ylU5pUGkSX0-01007-00212808-00213050 take that away like it's not about
ylU5pUGkSX0-01008-00213051-00213269 wanting the reward or thinking that much
ylU5pUGkSX0-01009-00213269-00213407 that make you happy but go for more
ylU5pUGkSX0-01010-00213408-00213632 because you can and we're very grateful
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z31YPbxKzq4-00000-00000026-00000374 major Greenwood FRS the 9th of August
z31YPbxKzq4-00001-00000375-00000740 1882 the 5th of October 1949 was an
z31YPbxKzq4-00002-00000741-00001539 English epidemiologist and statistician
z31YPbxKzq4-00003-00001540-00002055 topic biography
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z31YPbxKzq4-00005-00002311-00002544 Shoreditch in London's East End the only
z31YPbxKzq4-00006-00002545-00002784 child of major Greenwood a doctor in
z31YPbxKzq4-00007-00002785-00003135 general practice their major was his for
z31YPbxKzq4-00008-00003136-00003365 name not a military rank and his wife
z31YPbxKzq4-00009-00003367-00003600 Annie daughter of Peter Lodwick Burchell
z31YPbxKzq4-00010-00003601-00004095 frcs MB LS a the Greenwood family has
z31YPbxKzq4-00011-00004096-00004322 recorded back to the 12th century in the
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z31YPbxKzq4-00013-00004528-00004728 Greenwald leg near HEPT install
z31YPbxKzq4-00014-00004729-00004989 Yorkshire caterer to the Empress Maud in
z31YPbxKzq4-00015-00004990-00005352 1154 Greenwood was educated on the
z31YPbxKzq4-00016-00005353-00005529 classical side at merchant Taylor's
z31YPbxKzq4-00017-00005530-00005775 school and went on to study medicine at
z31YPbxKzq4-00018-00005776-00005961 University College London and the London
z31YPbxKzq4-00019-00005962-00006407 hospital on qualifying in 1904 he worked
z31YPbxKzq4-00020-00006408-00006603 for a time as assistant to his father
z31YPbxKzq4-00021-00006604-00006809 but after a few months he gave up
z31YPbxKzq4-00022-00006811-00007137 clinical practice for good he went to
z31YPbxKzq4-00023-00007138-00007298 work as a demonstrator for the
z31YPbxKzq4-00024-00007300-00007536 physiologist Leonard Hill father of the
z31YPbxKzq4-00025-00007537-00007773 future statistician Austin Bradford Hill
z31YPbxKzq4-00026-00007773-00008023 at the London Hospital Medical College
z31YPbxKzq4-00027-00008025-00008379 Leonard Hill recalled by recognising the
z31YPbxKzq4-00028-00008380-00008603 ability of a student with nothing behind
z31YPbxKzq4-00029-00008604-00008870 him to show his Worth and by appointing
z31YPbxKzq4-00030-00008871-00009092 him my assistant I may claim to have
z31YPbxKzq4-00031-00009093-00009449 started Greenwood on his career while
z31YPbxKzq4-00032-00009450-00009633 Greenwood made a good start in
z31YPbxKzq4-00033-00009634-00009837 physiological research he was already
z31YPbxKzq4-00034-00009838-00010092 drawn to statistics his first paper in
z31YPbxKzq4-00035-00010093-00010473 biometrika appeared in 1904 after a
z31YPbxKzq4-00036-00010474-00010727 period of study with Carl Pearson he was
z31YPbxKzq4-00037-00010728-00010920 appointed statistician to the Lister
z31YPbxKzq4-00038-00010921-00011262 Institute in 1910 there he worked on a
z31YPbxKzq4-00039-00011263-00011513 wide range of problems including a study
z31YPbxKzq4-00040-00011514-00011735 of the effectiveness of inoculation with
z31YPbxKzq4-00041-00011736-00012105 the statistician UD NYU in the First
z31YPbxKzq4-00042-00012106-00012353 World War Greenwood first served in the
z31YPbxKzq4-00043-00012354-00012578 Royal Army Medical Corps but then was
z31YPbxKzq4-00044-00012579-00012816 put in charge of a medical research unit
z31YPbxKzq4-00045-00012816-00013104 at the Ministry of munitions there he
z31YPbxKzq4-00046-00013105-00013278 investigated the health problems
z31YPbxKzq4-00047-00013279-00013530 associated with factory work one result
z31YPbxKzq4-00048-00013531-00013737 of which was an influential study of
z31YPbxKzq4-00049-00013738-00013929 accidents which he produced with Ewell
z31YPbxKzq4-00050-00013930-00014301 in 1919 Greenwood joined the newly
z31YPbxKzq4-00051-00014302-00014478 created Ministry of Health with
z31YPbxKzq4-00052-00014479-00014811 responsibility for medical statistics he
z31YPbxKzq4-00053-00014812-00015021 co-authored a number of papers see
z31YPbxKzq4-00054-00015022-00015222 publications with Ethel Newbold
z31YPbxKzq4-00055-00015222-00015385 during his tenure there and
z31YPbxKzq4-00056-00015386-00015622 touching obituary for her on her early
z31YPbxKzq4-00057-00015622-00016090 death in 1933 in 1928 he became the
z31YPbxKzq4-00058-00016091-00016309 first professor of Epidemiology and
z31YPbxKzq4-00059-00016310-00016513 vital statistics at the London School of
z31YPbxKzq4-00060-00016514-00016750 Hygiene and Tropical Medicine where he
z31YPbxKzq4-00061-00016751-00017103 stayed until he retired in 1945 he
z31YPbxKzq4-00062-00017104-00017323 established a group of researchers of
z31YPbxKzq4-00063-00017324-00017539 whom the most important was Austin
z31YPbxKzq4-00064-00017540-00017830 Bradford Hill Greenwood played the same
z31YPbxKzq4-00065-00017831-00018064 role in a bee Hill's career as Hills
z31YPbxKzq4-00066-00018065-00018385 father had played in his the Royal
z31YPbxKzq4-00067-00018386-00018622 Society awarded the Buchanan medal to
z31YPbxKzq4-00068-00018623-00018913 Greenwood in 1927 and elected him a
z31YPbxKzq4-00069-00018914-00019306 fellow in 1928 the election certificate
z31YPbxKzq4-00070-00019307-00019681 stated engaged in medical research has
z31YPbxKzq4-00071-00019682-00019885 applied the statistical method to the
z31YPbxKzq4-00072-00019886-00020077 elucidation of many problems of
z31YPbxKzq4-00073-00020078-00020317 physiology pathology hygiene and
z31YPbxKzq4-00074-00020318-00020647 epidemiology is the author or joint
z31YPbxKzq4-00075-00020648-00020899 author of more than 60 papers dealing
z31YPbxKzq4-00076-00020900-00021082 with these applications including
z31YPbxKzq4-00077-00021083-00021244 important contributions to the
z31YPbxKzq4-00078-00021245-00021519 experimental study of Epidemiology Jorn
z31YPbxKzq4-00079-00021520-00022012 hyg 24 1925 Greenwood and top Lee Abbott
z31YPbxKzq4-00080-00022013-00022369 25 1926 Greenwood newbold
z31YPbxKzq4-00081-00022370-00022636 top Lee and Wilson has done much to
z31YPbxKzq4-00082-00022637-00022858 encourage and develop the use of modern
z31YPbxKzq4-00083-00022859-00023053 statistical methods by medical
z31YPbxKzq4-00084-00023054-00023305 laboratory investigators and as chairman
z31YPbxKzq4-00085-00023306-00023453 of the Medical Research Council
z31YPbxKzq4-00086-00023454-00023680 statistical committee to secure the
z31YPbxKzq4-00087-00023681-00023899 adequate planning and execution of field
z31YPbxKzq4-00088-00023900-00024219 investigations he was elected president
z31YPbxKzq4-00089-00024220-00024568 of the Royal statistical Society in 1934
z31YPbxKzq4-00090-00024569-00024825 and awarded its guy medal in gold in
z31YPbxKzq4-00091-00024826-00025076 1945
z31YPbxKzq4-00092-00025077-00025310 Greenwood produced a large body of
z31YPbxKzq4-00093-00025311-00025511 research was the first holder of
z31YPbxKzq4-00094-00025512-00025706 important positions in modern medical
z31YPbxKzq4-00095-00025707-00025931 statistics and wrote extensively on the
z31YPbxKzq4-00096-00025932-00026147 history of his subject but as Austin
z31YPbxKzq4-00097-00026148-00026387 Bradford Hill wrote in his obituary in
z31YPbxKzq4-00098-00026388-00026702 the future it may well indeed seem that
z31YPbxKzq4-00099-00026702-00026969 one of his greatest contributions if not
z31YPbxKzq4-00100-00026970-00027212 the greatest lay merely in his outlook
z31YPbxKzq4-00101-00027213-00027452 in his statistical approach to medicine
z31YPbxKzq4-00102-00027452-00027677 then a new approach and one long
z31YPbxKzq4-00103-00027677-00027992 regarded with suspicion and he fought
z31YPbxKzq4-00104-00027993-00028319 this fight continuously and honestly for
z31YPbxKzq4-00105-00028320-00028752 logic for accuracy for little sums
z31YPbxKzq4-00106-00028752-00028968 his name is attached to the Greenwood
z31YPbxKzq4-00107-00028969-00029145 formula for the variance or standard
z31YPbxKzq4-00108-00029145-00029445 error SE of the kaplan-meier estimator
z31YPbxKzq4-00109-00029445-00029637 of survival a statistical method
z31YPbxKzq4-00110-00029638-00029847 invented by major Greenwood in a
z31YPbxKzq4-00111-00029848-00030069 statistical study of infectious diseases
z31YPbxKzq4-00112-00030070-00030308 as still used in present-day research
z31YPbxKzq4-00113-00030308-00030591 the Greenwood statistic was used to
z31YPbxKzq4-00114-00030592-00030768 discover that there is some kind of
z31YPbxKzq4-00115-00030769-00030960 order in the placement of genes on the
z31YPbxKzq4-00116-00030961-00031173 chromosomes of living things and this
z31YPbxKzq4-00117-00031174-00031398 inspired a new look at epigenetics which
z31YPbxKzq4-00118-00031399-00031626 is now considered to be as important as
z31YPbxKzq4-00119-00031627-00031877 genetics in how living organisms develop
z31YPbxKzq4-00120-00031879-00032189 and evolve Greenwood lived at Loddon
z31YPbxKzq4-00121-00032191-00032376 where among his neighbors were serf
z31YPbxKzq4-00122-00032377-00032610 Frank Baines Millay copán and Leonard
z31YPbxKzq4-00123-00032611-00032898 Erskine Hill
z31YPbxKzq4-00124-00032899-00033273 topic publications Greenwood M 1904 a
z31YPbxKzq4-00125-00033274-00033543 first study of the weight variability
z31YPbxKzq4-00126-00033544-00033749 and correlation of the human viscera
z31YPbxKzq4-00127-00033750-00033960 with special reference to the healthy
z31YPbxKzq4-00128-00033961-00034474 and diseased heart biometrika 3 263 - 83
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z31YPbxKzq4-00130-00034603-00034877 10 point one zero nine three biome at
z31YPbxKzq4-00131-00034878-00035135 three point one point six three
z31YPbxKzq4-00132-00035136-00035537 Greenwood m1910 physiology of the
z31YPbxKzq4-00133-00035538-00035912 special senses London er kn'l Greenwood
z31YPbxKzq4-00134-00035913-00036429 em you'll GU 1915 the statistics of Andy
z31YPbxKzq4-00135-00036430-00036642 typhoid and anti cholera inoculations
z31YPbxKzq4-00136-00036643-00036831 and the interpretation of such
z31YPbxKzq4-00137-00036832-00037143 statistics in general Proceedings of the
z31YPbxKzq4-00138-00037144-00037421 Royal Society of Medicine eight sect
z31YPbxKzq4-00139-00037422-00037686 epidemia
z31YPbxKzq4-00140-00037687-00038462 294 pmc 2,000,000 4181 pmid nineteen
z31YPbxKzq4-00141-00038463-00038639 million nine hundred seventy eight
z31YPbxKzq4-00142-00038640-00038952 thousand nine hundred eighteen Greenwood
z31YPbxKzq4-00143-00038953-00039276 major and UDN why you'll G nineteen
z31YPbxKzq4-00144-00039277-00039558 twenty an inquiry into the nature of
z31YPbxKzq4-00145-00039559-00039798 frequency distributions representative
z31YPbxKzq4-00146-00039799-00040008 of multiple happenings with particular
z31YPbxKzq4-00147-00040009-00040208 reference to the occurrence of multiple
z31YPbxKzq4-00148-00040209-00040412 attacks of disease or of repeated
z31YPbxKzq4-00149-00040413-00040629 accidents Journal of the Royal
z31YPbxKzq4-00150-00040630-00041385 statistical Society 83 to 255 - 279 boy
z31YPbxKzq4-00151-00041386-00041643 ten point two three zero seven two
z31YPbxKzq4-00152-00041644-00041892 million three hundred forty one thousand
z31YPbxKzq4-00153-00041893-00042258 eighty JSTOR two million three hundred
z31YPbxKzq4-00154-00042259-00042558 forty one thousand eighty Edgar L Collis
z31YPbxKzq4-00155-00042559-00042839 and major Greenwood the health of the
z31YPbxKzq4-00156-00042840-00043277 industrial worker 1921 crips L Greenwood
z31YPbxKzq4-00157-00043278-00043787 MN Newbould II 1923 a biometric study of
z31YPbxKzq4-00158-00043788-00044007 the interrelations of back quote vital
z31YPbxKzq4-00159-00044008-00044258 capacity stature stem length and weight
z31YPbxKzq4-00160-00044259-00044539 in a sample of healthy male adults
z31YPbxKzq4-00161-00044540-00044982 biometrika 14 - three - four doy ten
z31YPbxKzq4-00162-00044983-00045258 point two three zero seven two million
z31YPbxKzq4-00163-00045259-00045462 three hundred thirty one thousand eight
z31YPbxKzq4-00164-00045463-00045678 hundred sixteen
z31YPbxKzq4-00165-00045679-00046080 jstor two million three hundred thirty
z31YPbxKzq4-00166-00046081-00046726 1816 Greenwood M newbould II 1923 on the
z31YPbxKzq4-00167-00046727-00046903 estimation of metabolism from
z31YPbxKzq4-00168-00046904-00047098 determination of carbon dioxyde
z31YPbxKzq4-00169-00047099-00047320 production and on estimation of external
z31YPbxKzq4-00170-00047321-00047554 work from respiratory metabolism J
z31YPbxKzq4-00171-00047555-00047932 hygiene twenty one two three - four doy
z31YPbxKzq4-00172-00047933-00048253 ten point one zero one seven per seconds
z31YPbxKzq4-00173-00048254-00048613 oo two two one seven two four ooo three
z31YPbxKzq4-00174-00048614-00049048 one six two four PMC two million one
z31YPbxKzq4-00175-00049049-00049246 hundred sixty-seven thousand three
z31YPbxKzq4-00176-00049247-00049534 hundred seventy-nine Greenwood M
z31YPbxKzq4-00177-00049535-00050002 newbould e 1927 practical applications
z31YPbxKzq4-00178-00050003-00050194 of statistics of repeated events
z31YPbxKzq4-00179-00050195-00050461 particularly two industrial accidents J
z31YPbxKzq4-00180-00050462-00051312 royal stat society 92 487 - 547 joy 10.2
z31YPbxKzq4-00181-00051313-00051642 3:07 two million three hundred forty one
z31YPbxKzq4-00182-00051644-00052041 thousand two hundred three JSTOR two
z31YPbxKzq4-00183-00052042-00052288 million three hundred forty one thousand
z31YPbxKzq4-00184-00052289-00052600 two hundred three major Greenwood the
z31YPbxKzq4-00185-00052601-00052888 natural duration of cancer London
z31YPbxKzq4-00186-00052889-00053130 England His Majesty's stationery office
z31YPbxKzq4-00187-00053132-00053367 reports on public health and medical
z31YPbxKzq4-00188-00053369-00053895 subjects number 33 1926 major greenwood
z31YPbxKzq4-00189-00053896-00054127 epidemics and crowd diseases an
z31YPbxKzq4-00190-00054128-00054288 introduction to the study of
z31YPbxKzq4-00191-00054289-00054704 Epidemiology 1935 major greenwood
z31YPbxKzq4-00192-00054705-00054994 medical statistics from grant to far
z31YPbxKzq4-00193-00054995-00055200 the fitzpatrick lectures for the years
z31YPbxKzq4-00194-00055201-00055854 1941 and 1943 1948
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z8ytg1T6IbM-00000-00000215-00000390 my name is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00001-00000391-00000623 siri lillywhite and i'm the ceo of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00002-00000624-00000886 transparency international australia and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00003-00000888-00001191 i'm absolutely delighted uh to be uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00004-00001192-00001374 moderating this session uh very
z8ytg1T6IbM-00005-00001375-00001639 important session on how foreign bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00006-00001639-00001863 undermines democracy and human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00007-00001864-00002151 and why enforcement is needed and victim
z8ytg1T6IbM-00008-00002152-00002279 right victims rights should be
z8ytg1T6IbM-00009-00002280-00002407 recognized
z8ytg1T6IbM-00010-00002408-00002663 i'm joining this call from melbourne
z8ytg1T6IbM-00011-00002664-00002902 australia and i'd like to start by
z8ytg1T6IbM-00012-00002903-00003147 acknowledging the traditional owners and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00013-00003148-00003454 custodians of the land that i'm on
z8ytg1T6IbM-00014-00003455-00003686 um this is the war injury people and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00015-00003688-00003927 peoples of the kullen nations
z8ytg1T6IbM-00016-00003928-00004231 and i pay my respects to elders past
z8ytg1T6IbM-00017-00004232-00004519 present and emerging our discussion
z8ytg1T6IbM-00018-00004520-00004775 today is really very timely
z8ytg1T6IbM-00019-00004776-00005047 to kick-start the summit for democracy
z8ytg1T6IbM-00020-00005048-00005279 but also in recognition of international
z8ytg1T6IbM-00021-00005280-00005502 anti-corruption day just around the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00022-00005503-00005711 corner on the 9th of december and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00023-00005712-00005934 international human rights day on the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00024-00005935-00006183 10th of december
z8ytg1T6IbM-00025-00006184-00006351 bribery and corruption is not a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00026-00006352-00006606 victimless crime and too often it's the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00027-00006608-00006895 most marginalized people and communities
z8ytg1T6IbM-00028-00006895-00007119 that are disproportionately impacted
z8ytg1T6IbM-00029-00007120-00007383 particularly women girls and indigenous
z8ytg1T6IbM-00030-00007384-00007495 peoples
z8ytg1T6IbM-00031-00007495-00007814 and so after my almost 30-year career
z8ytg1T6IbM-00032-00007815-00008046 working to improve responsible business
z8ytg1T6IbM-00033-00008047-00008431 conduct integrity and good governance
z8ytg1T6IbM-00034-00008432-00008623 there is no doubt in my mind that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00035-00008624-00008887 corruption and human rights violations
z8ytg1T6IbM-00036-00008888-00009127 frequently go hand in hand
z8ytg1T6IbM-00037-00009128-00009295 and in recognition of that the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00038-00009296-00009487 discussion that we're about to have is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00039-00009488-00009671 really going to put a spotlight on the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00040-00009672-00009935 negative impact that foreign bribery has
z8ytg1T6IbM-00041-00009936-00010087 on democracy
z8ytg1T6IbM-00042-00010088-00010414 but also on civil political economic
z8ytg1T6IbM-00043-00010415-00010623 social and cultural rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00044-00010624-00010895 and so i'm delighted to be joined by
z8ytg1T6IbM-00045-00010896-00011151 this stellar panel
z8ytg1T6IbM-00046-00011152-00011278 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00047-00011279-00011446 together we're going to consider some of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00048-00011447-00011735 the data on foreign bribery enforcement
z8ytg1T6IbM-00049-00011736-00012023 some case examples on the harm caused to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00050-00012024-00012351 victims and how this could and should be
z8ytg1T6IbM-00051-00012352-00012623 addressed uh and compensated for in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00052-00012624-00012855 foreign bribery proceedings
z8ytg1T6IbM-00053-00012856-00013055 so to help set the scene
z8ytg1T6IbM-00054-00013056-00013327 uh transparency international's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00055-00013328-00013558 well-known and famous exporting
z8ytg1T6IbM-00056-00013559-00013775 corruption report the most recent one in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00057-00013776-00013911 2020
z8ytg1T6IbM-00058-00013912-00014222 found that only four of 47 countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-00059-00014223-00014551 that we looked at which did include 43
z8ytg1T6IbM-00060-00014552-00014966 of the 44 um uh parties to the oecd
z8ytg1T6IbM-00061-00014968-00015150 anti-bribery convention
z8ytg1T6IbM-00062-00015151-00015422 are actively enforcing against uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00063-00015423-00015727 foreign bribery so it's only 4 out of 47
z8ytg1T6IbM-00064-00015728-00015919 an incredibly low number
z8ytg1T6IbM-00065-00015919-00016222 and further many of the cases confirmed
z8ytg1T6IbM-00066-00016223-00016455 that bribes are in fact being paid to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00067-00016456-00016671 high-level officials and political
z8ytg1T6IbM-00068-00016672-00016911 parties which of course undermines
z8ytg1T6IbM-00069-00016912-00017255 democracy in the most fundamental ways
z8ytg1T6IbM-00070-00017256-00017343 so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00071-00017344-00017599 how are we going to run the event well
z8ytg1T6IbM-00072-00017600-00017855 firstly i will let you know that we are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00073-00017856-00018014 actually going to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00074-00018015-00018294 be recording this session so i i hope
z8ytg1T6IbM-00075-00018295-00018519 that's okay with all of you but just to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00076-00018520-00018807 note in terms of uh your responses the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00077-00018808-00019030 event is being recorded
z8ytg1T6IbM-00078-00019031-00019230 we're going to start with two questions
z8ytg1T6IbM-00079-00019231-00019494 to each panelist and i will need to be
z8ytg1T6IbM-00080-00019495-00019683 tough on
z8ytg1T6IbM-00081-00019684-00019983 time see me holding my hand up there uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00082-00019984-00020158 fellow panelists that's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00083-00020159-00020294 that's a warning that you know you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00084-00020295-00020519 really need to wind up that response
z8ytg1T6IbM-00085-00020520-00020727 and then this will be followed by a q a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00086-00020728-00021063 session so for all of uh those of us
z8ytg1T6IbM-00087-00021064-00021311 joining the call please use the chat
z8ytg1T6IbM-00088-00021312-00021678 function to write your question um and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00089-00021679-00021919 uh and if it is to a specific panel list
z8ytg1T6IbM-00090-00021920-00022183 pop that in there as well uh and then
z8ytg1T6IbM-00091-00022184-00022399 i'll moderate those questions
z8ytg1T6IbM-00092-00022400-00022678 so to begin with um it's my great
z8ytg1T6IbM-00093-00022679-00022975 pleasure to introduce our first panelist
z8ytg1T6IbM-00094-00022976-00023175 uh drago cos
z8ytg1T6IbM-00095-00023176-00023455 drago is chair of the oecd working group
z8ytg1T6IbM-00096-00023456-00023694 on bribery which of course monitors
z8ytg1T6IbM-00097-00023695-00023950 states compliance with obligations in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00098-00023951-00024158 line with the oecd anti-bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00099-00024159-00024286 convention
z8ytg1T6IbM-00100-00024287-00024527 and just by way of update recently the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00101-00024528-00024894 oecd working group on bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00102-00024895-00025111 held some pretty difficult discussions
z8ytg1T6IbM-00103-00025112-00025278 on the issue of victims rights in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00104-00025279-00025494 foreign bribery proceedings as part of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00105-00025495-00025734 an update to the oecd anti-bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00106-00025735-00025902 recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00107-00025904-00026150 and that update was adopted by the oecd
z8ytg1T6IbM-00108-00026151-00026446 council in november
z8ytg1T6IbM-00109-00026447-00026679 i think it's fair to say regrettably
z8ytg1T6IbM-00110-00026680-00026807 certainly from the point of view of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00111-00026808-00027102 transparency international the nays did
z8ytg1T6IbM-00112-00027104-00027383 win that day and uh victims rights were
z8ytg1T6IbM-00113-00027383-00027679 not included but uh it is worth noting
z8ytg1T6IbM-00114-00027680-00028083 that the pre-angular
z8ytg1T6IbM-00115-00028083-00028255 foundation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00116-00028256-00028446 the harmful effects caused by foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00117-00028447-00028695 bribery and considers the importance of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00118-00028695-00028911 effectively combating foreign bribery in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00119-00028912-00029190 order to assess address and prevent uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00120-00029191-00029390 those effects on society
z8ytg1T6IbM-00121-00029391-00029631 but it doesn't go far enough in our view
z8ytg1T6IbM-00122-00029632-00029927 um drago has a distinguished record of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00123-00029927-00030174 international public service he's a past
z8ytg1T6IbM-00124-00030175-00030358 chair of the joint independent
z8ytg1T6IbM-00125-00030360-00030511 anti-corruption monitoring and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00126-00030512-00030814 evaluation committee in afghanistan and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00127-00030816-00031358 past chairs
z8ytg1T6IbM-00128-00031360-00031639 against corruption and uh interestingly
z8ytg1T6IbM-00129-00031639-00031895 in his home country slovenia uh drago
z8ytg1T6IbM-00130-00031895-00032031 was the first chair of the commission
z8ytg1T6IbM-00131-00032032-00032223 for the prevention of corruption and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00132-00032224-00032646 also a fifa uefa uefa uh referee and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00133-00032647-00032855 this still a referee observer which i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00134-00032856-00033055 was very interested to learn
z8ytg1T6IbM-00135-00033056-00033471 so drago uh over to you um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00136-00033472-00033751 firstly based on your experience is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00137-00033752-00033983 foreign bribery really damaging the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00138-00033984-00034262 levels of democracy which really is part
z8ytg1T6IbM-00139-00034263-00034655 of the premise for our meeting today
z8ytg1T6IbM-00140-00034656-00034887 well thank you serena and let's say best
z8ytg1T6IbM-00141-00034888-00035207 regards to everybody online now uh i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00142-00035208-00035399 would not thank you for for opening my
z8ytg1T6IbM-00143-00035400-00035559 wounds again
z8ytg1T6IbM-00144-00035560-00035735 on the accommodation you know and the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00145-00035736-00035990 issue of the victims but uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00146-00035991-00036127 you see here in the working group on
z8ytg1T6IbM-00147-00036128-00036383 bribery we really deal with with many
z8ytg1T6IbM-00148-00036384-00036630 different cases of uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00149-00036631-00036823 where let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-00150-00036824-00037046 price payers from one country were
z8ytg1T6IbM-00151-00037047-00037230 paying the bribes to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00152-00037231-00037407 individuals in other countries sometimes
z8ytg1T6IbM-00153-00037408-00037599 even the guys at the top
z8ytg1T6IbM-00154-00037600-00037815 and we know you know in general terms we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00155-00037816-00038039 always say that corruption is destroying
z8ytg1T6IbM-00156-00038040-00038230 the democracy democracy from within
z8ytg1T6IbM-00157-00038231-00038407 itself
z8ytg1T6IbM-00158-00038408-00038559 and since this is what we're dealing
z8ytg1T6IbM-00159-00038560-00038767 with is the foreign bribery it's even
z8ytg1T6IbM-00160-00038768-00038951 more dangerous than the domestic
z8ytg1T6IbM-00161-00038952-00039087 corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-00162-00039088-00039262 due to the fact that the pride payers
z8ytg1T6IbM-00163-00039263-00039471 usually they do not take care about the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00164-00039472-00039655 consequences of their bribes in those
z8ytg1T6IbM-00165-00039656-00039846 countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-00166-00039847-00039927 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00167-00039928-00040199 we have numerous number of cases say
z8ytg1T6IbM-00168-00040200-00040439 when we see that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00169-00040440-00040607 countries which already achieved
z8ytg1T6IbM-00170-00040608-00040711 something
z8ytg1T6IbM-00171-00040712-00040958 in the fight against foreign bribery uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00172-00040959-00041158 started to go
z8ytg1T6IbM-00173-00041159-00041383 backwards some some of them not they're
z8ytg1T6IbM-00174-00041384-00041558 not going backwards i would say they're
z8ytg1T6IbM-00175-00041559-00041718 running backwards
z8ytg1T6IbM-00176-00041719-00041927 and this all has consequences on the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00177-00041928-00042215 level of democracy there
z8ytg1T6IbM-00178-00042216-00042415 we see lately that there is a basically
z8ytg1T6IbM-00179-00042416-00042687 it's a very dire direct linked link
z8ytg1T6IbM-00180-00042688-00042895 between the willingness of countries to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00181-00042896-00043111 fight not only domestic but also foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00182-00043112-00043246 corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-00183-00043247-00043495 and the level of democracy there
z8ytg1T6IbM-00184-00043496-00043662 unfortunately in the last year we see
z8ytg1T6IbM-00185-00043663-00043767 the increase
z8ytg1T6IbM-00186-00043768-00044039 increasing number of countries where the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00187-00044040-00044246 so-called autocratic regimes which do
z8ytg1T6IbM-00188-00044247-00044502 not care too much about the human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00189-00044503-00044623 and liberties
z8ytg1T6IbM-00190-00044624-00044839 they do not care too much about the the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00191-00044840-00045183 democratic values are gaining uh let's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00192-00045184-00045383 say the importance and we have more and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00193-00045384-00045655 more of them in the group but also
z8ytg1T6IbM-00194-00045656-00045902 outside of the group
z8ytg1T6IbM-00195-00045903-00046095 what is especially dangerous with when
z8ytg1T6IbM-00196-00046096-00046230 we discuss the effects of foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00197-00046231-00046518 bribery in in let's say some countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-00198-00046519-00046758 is the fact that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00199-00046759-00046855 if
z8ytg1T6IbM-00200-00046856-00047086 the individuals who are receiving bribes
z8ytg1T6IbM-00201-00047087-00047367 want to conceal this fact especially if
z8ytg1T6IbM-00202-00047368-00047607 they want to conceal the consequences of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00203-00047608-00047751 the bribes
z8ytg1T6IbM-00204-00047752-00047990 which usually goes in favor of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00205-00047991-00048207 foreign foreigners
z8ytg1T6IbM-00206-00048208-00048446 then they are forced to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00207-00048447-00048662 use much broader ways
z8ytg1T6IbM-00208-00048663-00048855 much more broader ways concealing their
z8ytg1T6IbM-00209-00048856-00049062 debts
z8ytg1T6IbM-00210-00049063-00049262 including completely
z8ytg1T6IbM-00211-00049263-00049518 neglecting or even directly misusing the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00212-00049519-00049830 democratic processes in their countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-00213-00049831-00050111 uh we see in some of our member states
z8ytg1T6IbM-00214-00050112-00050295 let's say that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00215-00050296-00050639 really uh it doesn't take much that all
z8ytg1T6IbM-00216-00050640-00050735 the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00217-00050736-00050918 safeguards
z8ytg1T6IbM-00218-00050919-00051023 or
z8ytg1T6IbM-00219-00051024-00051302 let's say the the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00220-00051303-00051519 established practices which have been
z8ytg1T6IbM-00221-00051520-00051679 brought in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00222-00051679-00051887 cumbersome for many years
z8ytg1T6IbM-00223-00051888-00052158 can disappear in the number of let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-00224-00052159-00052270 the number of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00225-00052271-00052447 weeks if not
z8ytg1T6IbM-00226-00052448-00052566 days
z8ytg1T6IbM-00227-00052567-00052815 it just depends who is the person at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00228-00052816-00052950 top
z8ytg1T6IbM-00229-00052951-00053111 so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00230-00053112-00053238 we are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00231-00053239-00053511 forced to use more and more our famous
z8ytg1T6IbM-00232-00053512-00053687 article 5 which is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00233-00053688-00053903 let's say basically asking countries to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00234-00053904-00054047 follow the rule of law when fighting for
z8ytg1T6IbM-00235-00054048-00054238 a bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00236-00054239-00054575 without any exceptions
z8ytg1T6IbM-00237-00054576-00054663 but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00238-00054664-00054838 i would say that without
z8ytg1T6IbM-00239-00054839-00054942 a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00240-00054944-00055135 strong correction from the side of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00241-00055136-00055294 group but also from the set of all
z8ytg1T6IbM-00242-00055295-00055454 international community
z8ytg1T6IbM-00243-00055455-00055782 i'm afraid that for some years situation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00244-00055783-00055966 will get even worse and we have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00245-00055967-00056215 everything possible what we can do to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00246-00056216-00056359 prevent this from happening because
z8ytg1T6IbM-00247-00056360-00056607 otherwise we will see
z8ytg1T6IbM-00248-00056608-00056847 even more democracies crumbling
z8ytg1T6IbM-00249-00056848-00057054 because of different issues but also
z8ytg1T6IbM-00250-00057055-00057279 because of bribery because the bribe
z8ytg1T6IbM-00251-00057279-00057463 players are using or misusing the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00252-00057464-00057766 current situation at the large
z8ytg1T6IbM-00253-00057767-00058030 extent
z8ytg1T6IbM-00254-00058032-00058175 well that's that's that's a fairly
z8ytg1T6IbM-00255-00058176-00058359 gloomy picture you've painted for us
z8ytg1T6IbM-00256-00058360-00058703 there i i just as a follow-up i i wonder
z8ytg1T6IbM-00257-00058704-00059119 if you um could comment on the extent to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00258-00059120-00059199 which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00259-00059200-00059430 uh you've seen victims actually being
z8ytg1T6IbM-00260-00059432-00059694 compensated for harm caused by foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00261-00059695-00059926 bribery and whether or not you've seen
z8ytg1T6IbM-00262-00059927-00060287 any changes in the the confiscation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00263-00060288-00060542 angle uh in terms of um the proceeds of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00264-00060544-00061150 foreign bribery being confiscated
z8ytg1T6IbM-00265-00061151-00061350 well
z8ytg1T6IbM-00266-00061351-00061494 since you mentioned already at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00267-00061495-00061623 beginning you know that we did not
z8ytg1T6IbM-00268-00061624-00061863 manage to introduce
z8ytg1T6IbM-00269-00061864-00062030 concrete provisions on protecting the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00270-00062032-00062191 victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00271-00062191-00062350 you can imagine that there's also
z8ytg1T6IbM-00272-00062351-00062663 nothing in in the either the convention
z8ytg1T6IbM-00273-00062664-00062863 or the 2009 recommendation which would
z8ytg1T6IbM-00274-00062864-00063015 help the victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00275-00063016-00063094 so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00276-00063095-00063279 we do not enter those discussions very
z8ytg1T6IbM-00277-00063279-00063487 often in the working open bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00278-00063488-00063687 we hear from time to time uh when
z8ytg1T6IbM-00279-00063688-00063894 countries let's say explain the cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-00280-00063895-00063999 where
z8ytg1T6IbM-00281-00064000-00064135 where they were
z8ytg1T6IbM-00282-00064136-00064303 really doing
z8ytg1T6IbM-00283-00064304-00064542 things to assist the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00284-00064544-00064766 victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00285-00064767-00064911 but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00286-00064912-00065126 can you still hear me
z8ytg1T6IbM-00287-00065127-00065319 yes i can hear you but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00288-00065320-00065671 you have disappeared from my screen but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00289-00065672-00065879 i can certainly hear you so i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-00290-00065880-00066126 press on drago
z8ytg1T6IbM-00291-00066127-00066567 well i will try to to get back
z8ytg1T6IbM-00292-00066568-00066799 yeah well so as i said we don't have any
z8ytg1T6IbM-00293-00066800-00067094 cases where countries would explain
z8ytg1T6IbM-00294-00067095-00067335 even formally or even informally that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00295-00067336-00067550 they have assisted victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00296-00067551-00067791 we hear from time to time cases where
z8ytg1T6IbM-00297-00067792-00067982 countries are complaining that the funds
z8ytg1T6IbM-00298-00067983-00068215 which have been uh sent back to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00299-00068216-00068343 countries which have been damaged by
z8ytg1T6IbM-00300-00068344-00068447 corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-00301-00068448-00068638 have been again used by the by the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00302-00068639-00068799 proctors
z8ytg1T6IbM-00303-00068800-00068991 and that the the problems the countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-00304-00068992-00069287 have to let's say to reestablish or
z8ytg1T6IbM-00305-00069288-00069494 let's say to make make it
z8ytg1T6IbM-00306-00069495-00069711 uh absolutely
z8ytg1T6IbM-00307-00069712-00069863 impossible
z8ytg1T6IbM-00308-00069864-00070031 for the corrupt guys from whom the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00309-00070032-00070247 assets have been confiscated that they
z8ytg1T6IbM-00310-00070248-00070431 will not get the exactly the same assets
z8ytg1T6IbM-00311-00070432-00070591 back
z8ytg1T6IbM-00312-00070592-00070806 i do recognize that this is a threat
z8ytg1T6IbM-00313-00070807-00070991 this is a challenge but i still think
z8ytg1T6IbM-00314-00070992-00071206 that this threat is not strong enough
z8ytg1T6IbM-00315-00071207-00071406 that we simply avoid compensating the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00316-00071407-00071511 victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00317-00071512-00071662 so what we have to do is we have to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00318-00071663-00071911 precisely find procedures
z8ytg1T6IbM-00319-00071912-00072047 how
z8ytg1T6IbM-00320-00072048-00072326 should we deal with those compensations
z8ytg1T6IbM-00321-00072327-00072447 and not
z8ytg1T6IbM-00322-00072448-00072726 forget the compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00323-00072727-00072959 and speaking with countries which are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00324-00072960-00073231 which have some experience in this area
z8ytg1T6IbM-00325-00073232-00073455 i have to say it is possible
z8ytg1T6IbM-00326-00073456-00073687 they all recognize that but there is a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00327-00073688-00073855 bigger problem which i see the bigger
z8ytg1T6IbM-00328-00073856-00073959 problem is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00329-00073960-00074159 that simply sometimes they don't want to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00330-00074160-00074279 do it
z8ytg1T6IbM-00331-00074280-00074543 and this will be let's say that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00332-00074544-00074759 the most hardest nut we will have to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00333-00074760-00074862 crack
z8ytg1T6IbM-00334-00074863-00075071 so it's not so much about technicalities
z8ytg1T6IbM-00335-00075072-00075399 of uh returning the the confiscated
z8ytg1T6IbM-00336-00075400-00075703 assets back to the victims it is about
z8ytg1T6IbM-00337-00075704-00075879 how to convince the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00338-00075880-00076111 countries which are confiscating those
z8ytg1T6IbM-00339-00076112-00076343 assets that they will do it
z8ytg1T6IbM-00340-00076344-00076494 of course we have a country which are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00341-00076495-00076687 willing to do it we have countries which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00342-00076688-00076911 are doing doing it on a regular basis
z8ytg1T6IbM-00343-00076912-00077159 but nobody wants to let's say nobody
z8ytg1T6IbM-00344-00077160-00077375 wants to get very
z8ytg1T6IbM-00345-00077376-00077615 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00346-00077616-00077799 popular because of that because
z8ytg1T6IbM-00347-00077800-00077991 everybody is afraid that they will be
z8ytg1T6IbM-00348-00077992-00078143 facing even more requests for
z8ytg1T6IbM-00349-00078144-00078279 compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00350-00078280-00078487 so it is a thin line
z8ytg1T6IbM-00351-00078488-00078735 but again i'm confident that we can find
z8ytg1T6IbM-00352-00078736-00078950 solutions
z8ytg1T6IbM-00353-00078951-00079199 great and i'm glad glad you still have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00354-00079200-00079335 optimism
z8ytg1T6IbM-00355-00079336-00079615 uh around this and i certainly concur
z8ytg1T6IbM-00356-00079616-00079815 with you that uh political will is a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00357-00079816-00080199 very hard nut to crack um our next
z8ytg1T6IbM-00358-00080200-00080511 panelist so thank you um drago our next
z8ytg1T6IbM-00359-00080512-00080847 panelist uh anita rama sastri has been
z8ytg1T6IbM-00360-00080848-00081023 really making a difference throughout
z8ytg1T6IbM-00361-00081024-00081294 her international career and anita
z8ytg1T6IbM-00362-00081295-00081447 brings a business and human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00363-00081448-00081687 perspective to our discussion
z8ytg1T6IbM-00364-00081688-00081894 anita is the henry m jackson professor
z8ytg1T6IbM-00365-00081895-00082167 of law and director of graduate program
z8ytg1T6IbM-00366-00082168-00082399 in sustainable international development
z8ytg1T6IbM-00367-00082400-00082606 at the university of washington
z8ytg1T6IbM-00368-00082607-00082943 and she's the immediate past chair and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00369-00082944-00083150 still current member of the un working
z8ytg1T6IbM-00370-00083151-00083375 group on business and human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00371-00083376-00083575 and uh in that working group she leads
z8ytg1T6IbM-00372-00083576-00083799 the work stream that really integrates
z8ytg1T6IbM-00373-00083800-00084031 the two aspects of both responsible
z8ytg1T6IbM-00374-00084032-00084199 business conduct
z8ytg1T6IbM-00375-00084200-00084431 and and preventing uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00376-00084432-00084638 corruption and ensuring respect for
z8ytg1T6IbM-00377-00084639-00084911 human rights so anita welcome
z8ytg1T6IbM-00378-00084912-00085150 uh anita you you've heard what what
z8ytg1T6IbM-00379-00085151-00085431 drogo's had to say um what do the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00380-00085432-00085655 unguarding principles on business and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00381-00085656-00085894 human rights and indeed the agenda of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00382-00085895-00086094 the working group tell us about state
z8ytg1T6IbM-00383-00086095-00086367 and multi uh national obligations with
z8ytg1T6IbM-00384-00086368-00086575 regards to foreign bribery and victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00385-00086576-00086671 rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00386-00086672-00086823 great thank you so much serena and thank
z8ytg1T6IbM-00387-00086824-00086975 you to transparency international for
z8ytg1T6IbM-00388-00086976-00087182 this invitation i am someone who comes
z8ytg1T6IbM-00389-00087183-00087326 out of the anti-corruption world but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00390-00087327-00087503 have turned my attention to this
z8ytg1T6IbM-00391-00087504-00087694 parallel world of business and human
z8ytg1T6IbM-00392-00087695-00087871 rights and i should say it's not just
z8ytg1T6IbM-00393-00087872-00088071 the united nations you know drago works
z8ytg1T6IbM-00394-00088072-00088247 with the working group on bribery but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00395-00088248-00088487 there's uh also another part of the oecd
z8ytg1T6IbM-00396-00088488-00088679 which is focused on responsible business
z8ytg1T6IbM-00397-00088680-00088926 conduct and the oecd guidelines really
z8ytg1T6IbM-00398-00088927-00089118 ask companies to think about responsible
z8ytg1T6IbM-00399-00089119-00089359 business as an integrated agenda that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00400-00089360-00089526 you need to prevent corruption but you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00401-00089527-00089694 also need to prevent human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00402-00089695-00089926 impacts in your business operations the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00403-00089927-00090135 cornerstone of that is what i implement
z8ytg1T6IbM-00404-00090136-00090303 through the un which is the un guiding
z8ytg1T6IbM-00405-00090304-00090447 principles on business and human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00406-00090448-00090599 but i want everyone to realize that what
z8ytg1T6IbM-00407-00090600-00090750 we're saying here is holistic
z8ytg1T6IbM-00408-00090751-00090926 responsible business means that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00409-00090927-00091126 companies need to account for bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00410-00091127-00091343 and and prevent bribery but also need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00411-00091344-00091543 realize that that very often their
z8ytg1T6IbM-00412-00091544-00091767 activity also has a strong human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00413-00091768-00091935 impact and i'm not going to go into the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00414-00091936-00092135 details of that but just to say the un
z8ytg1T6IbM-00415-00092136-00092279 working group appointed by the human
z8ytg1T6IbM-00416-00092280-00092455 rights council as we go around the world
z8ytg1T6IbM-00417-00092456-00092647 we go on country missions and what we've
z8ytg1T6IbM-00418-00092648-00092831 noticed around the world so throughout
z8ytg1T6IbM-00419-00092832-00093071 all of the regions is that when we speak
z8ytg1T6IbM-00420-00093072-00093247 to communities that have suffered human
z8ytg1T6IbM-00421-00093248-00093438 rights abuses whether it's a dam that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00422-00093439-00093631 has burst or there is a failure to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00423-00093632-00093791 conduct a environmental impact
z8ytg1T6IbM-00424-00093792-00093959 assessment and now they're suffering the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00425-00093960-00094135 consequences in terms of pollution and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00426-00094136-00094287 health hazards or whether it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00427-00094288-00094438 pharmaceutical supply chains where
z8ytg1T6IbM-00428-00094439-00094599 bribes have been paid and medicines have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00429-00094600-00094831 been diverted around the world when we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00430-00094832-00094991 speak to communities using the human
z8ytg1T6IbM-00431-00094992-00095143 rights lens so we're there to ask them
z8ytg1T6IbM-00432-00095144-00095335 about business activity that has had a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00433-00095336-00095567 human rights impact what we often find
z8ytg1T6IbM-00434-00095568-00095718 is that they also speak about either
z8ytg1T6IbM-00435-00095719-00095879 petty or grand corruption right other
z8ytg1T6IbM-00436-00095880-00096118 companies are paying administrators to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00437-00096119-00096406 circumvent regulations or you have let's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00438-00096407-00096591 say a security guard who's paid a bribe
z8ytg1T6IbM-00439-00096592-00096735 and is then detaining a human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00440-00096736-00096959 defender so the thing is while in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00441-00096960-00097174 anti-bribery space we talk about victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-00442-00097175-00097374 but we don't document the harms if we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00443-00097375-00097503 look in the business and human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00444-00097504-00097743 space the harms are well documented and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00445-00097744-00097943 perhaps we don't have the concrete
z8ytg1T6IbM-00446-00097944-00098118 evidence of bribery but we have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00447-00098119-00098343 long-standing community impact so i just
z8ytg1T6IbM-00448-00098344-00098462 want to say that i think it's important
z8ytg1T6IbM-00449-00098463-00098655 for us to connect these agendas because
z8ytg1T6IbM-00450-00098656-00098943 again it will help us understand how
z8ytg1T6IbM-00451-00098944-00099111 foreign bribery and private sector
z8ytg1T6IbM-00452-00099112-00099350 bribery does undermine human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00453-00099351-00099591 across the globe in a way that is and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00454-00099592-00099823 again subverts democratic processes in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00455-00099824-00100062 terms of what we're seeing um so i would
z8ytg1T6IbM-00456-00100063-00100255 just say that i think that aligning the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00457-00100256-00100494 agendas and that and really focusing on
z8ytg1T6IbM-00458-00100495-00100679 how business and human rights and the un
z8ytg1T6IbM-00459-00100680-00100838 guiding principles which require
z8ytg1T6IbM-00460-00100839-00101031 companies to look at their human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00461-00101032-00101303 impacts needs to be integrated into a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00462-00101304-00101503 stronger uh kind of corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-00463-00101504-00101743 prevention agenda
z8ytg1T6IbM-00464-00101744-00101903 i think you make some really important
z8ytg1T6IbM-00465-00101904-00102126 points there about uh you know a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00466-00102127-00102391 cautionary tale about siloing the way
z8ytg1T6IbM-00467-00102392-00102710 that we address these areas of work um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00468-00102711-00102886 just by way of follow-up
z8ytg1T6IbM-00469-00102888-00103199 you touched on them your missions and i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00470-00103200-00103351 wonder if you could just share with us a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00471-00103352-00103647 little bit more um what you've heard or
z8ytg1T6IbM-00472-00103648-00103886 what in terms of some of the cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-00473-00103888-00104166 that you've seen or been told about um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00474-00104167-00104447 that show the negative impact of foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00475-00104448-00104751 bribery on on human rights and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00476-00104752-00104975 what would be your assessment on how
z8ytg1T6IbM-00477-00104976-00105239 there is both enforcement of foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00478-00105240-00105566 bribery and also um uh recognition and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00479-00105567-00105815 and uh protection of victims rights in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00480-00105816-00106039 in practice yeah so couple of things
z8ytg1T6IbM-00481-00106040-00106183 there one is that i think it's very
z8ytg1T6IbM-00482-00106183-00106358 important for the human rights community
z8ytg1T6IbM-00483-00106359-00106575 um to continue to advocate for strong
z8ytg1T6IbM-00484-00106576-00106758 anti-corruption measures at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00485-00106759-00106910 intergovernmental and at the national
z8ytg1T6IbM-00486-00106911-00107102 level so that's one piece which is that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00487-00107103-00107310 we need advocates in from the human
z8ytg1T6IbM-00488-00107311-00107519 rights space but in terms of cases and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00489-00107520-00107671 i'll just mention one i mentioned a few
z8ytg1T6IbM-00490-00107672-00107839 kind of examples of what typically
z8ytg1T6IbM-00491-00107840-00108039 happens but we have in the situation of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00492-00108040-00108263 the democratic republic of congo the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00493-00108264-00108478 situation of dan gertler and those
z8ytg1T6IbM-00494-00108479-00108639 bribery allegations and of course
z8ytg1T6IbM-00495-00108640-00108807 sanctions were levied against him
z8ytg1T6IbM-00496-00108808-00108990 there's both the human rights impact of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00497-00108991-00109231 failure of drc to collect billions of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00498-00109232-00109423 dollars in terms of payments right
z8ytg1T6IbM-00499-00109424-00109623 because of the bribery leading to under
z8ytg1T6IbM-00500-00109624-00109839 payment into the into the treasury but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00501-00109840-00109983 what you see on the human rights side is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00502-00109983-00110183 that there's now cases that are being
z8ytg1T6IbM-00503-00110183-00110375 mounted about direct impacts that the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00504-00110376-00110639 quality of the mining the safety the way
z8ytg1T6IbM-00505-00110640-00110871 in which people are actually impacted by
z8ytg1T6IbM-00506-00110872-00111119 the mining conditions leads to much more
z8ytg1T6IbM-00507-00111120-00111302 direct human rights impacts to the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00508-00111303-00111534 communities that are either mining
z8ytg1T6IbM-00509-00111535-00111710 impacted and living near the mine and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00510-00111711-00111863 those are i think the more direct human
z8ytg1T6IbM-00511-00111864-00112095 rights impact so that the treasury piece
z8ytg1T6IbM-00512-00112096-00112254 is certainly a human rights issue but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00513-00112255-00112431 it's really that direct consequence as
z8ytg1T6IbM-00514-00112432-00112647 well that we need to document more but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00515-00112648-00112807 i'll just conclude by saying what's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00516-00112808-00112990 important here is that while we talk
z8ytg1T6IbM-00517-00112991-00113158 about anti-bribery and of course the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00518-00113159-00113527 oecd convention we also have the the un
z8ytg1T6IbM-00519-00113528-00113743 guiding principles were voluntary at
z8ytg1T6IbM-00520-00113744-00113943 first for companies but now we have the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00521-00113944-00114199 european union france the netherlands
z8ytg1T6IbM-00522-00114200-00114399 just announced a couple of days ago
z8ytg1T6IbM-00523-00114400-00114583 binding mandatory human rights due
z8ytg1T6IbM-00524-00114583-00114734 diligence meaning companies are going to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00525-00114735-00114927 have to similar to ansi bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00526-00114928-00115127 institute procedures and controls to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00527-00115128-00115286 prevent human rights abuses and their
z8ytg1T6IbM-00528-00115288-00115551 activities why is this important well
z8ytg1T6IbM-00529-00115552-00115758 hopefully it again it'll be another way
z8ytg1T6IbM-00530-00115759-00115943 of getting at the same issue if there's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00531-00115944-00116175 corruption linked to this then processes
z8ytg1T6IbM-00532-00116176-00116358 will have to improve but most
z8ytg1T6IbM-00533-00116359-00116543 importantly is this idea in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00534-00116544-00116663 netherlands has said that they're going
z8ytg1T6IbM-00535-00116664-00116790 to introduce something called a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00536-00116791-00116990 statutory duty of care and civil
z8ytg1T6IbM-00537-00116991-00117263 liability so that while you a prosecutor
z8ytg1T6IbM-00538-00117264-00117407 may or may not investigate the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00539-00117408-00117583 allegations of foreign bribery in these
z8ytg1T6IbM-00540-00117583-00117839 cases victims themselves will have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00541-00117840-00118054 direct standing in home country
z8ytg1T6IbM-00542-00118055-00118286 jurisdictions to seek remedy and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00543-00118288-00118439 reparations for the harms that they've
z8ytg1T6IbM-00544-00118440-00118631 suffered which might be monetary but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00545-00118632-00118783 might be injunctive right that you want
z8ytg1T6IbM-00546-00118783-00118934 the mining to stop or you want
z8ytg1T6IbM-00547-00118935-00119166 permitting processes to be improved so i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00548-00119167-00119278 just want to say that i think that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00549-00119279-00119495 there's a lot of hope i hope in in terms
z8ytg1T6IbM-00550-00119496-00119799 of robust human rights due diligence
z8ytg1T6IbM-00551-00119800-00120039 serving a strong corruption prevention
z8ytg1T6IbM-00552-00120040-00120223 agenda
z8ytg1T6IbM-00553-00120224-00120478 and i think that um you know the the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00554-00120479-00120647 developments and the trends that we're
z8ytg1T6IbM-00555-00120648-00120927 seeing in in in mandatory human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00556-00120928-00121190 due diligence i think the uh the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00557-00121191-00121439 anti-corruption and anti-foreign bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00558-00121440-00121695 world has a lot to learn uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00559-00121696-00121878 more generally about the importance of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00560-00121879-00122151 undertaking robust due diligence in in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00561-00122152-00122375 terms of not not not just identifying
z8ytg1T6IbM-00562-00122376-00122639 corruption vulnerabilities but really
z8ytg1T6IbM-00563-00122640-00122863 looking into the integrity and character
z8ytg1T6IbM-00564-00122864-00123143 and track record of all of the uh their
z8ytg1T6IbM-00565-00123144-00123334 business associates throughout their
z8ytg1T6IbM-00566-00123335-00123543 supply chains um and i think it's no
z8ytg1T6IbM-00567-00123544-00123758 surprise that uh we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00568-00123759-00124023 when you look at sectors like mining
z8ytg1T6IbM-00569-00124024-00124199 that you mentioned in large scale
z8ytg1T6IbM-00570-00124200-00124454 infrastructure dams of course these are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00571-00124455-00124639 sectors that are not only most prone to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00572-00124640-00124854 business and human rights violations but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00573-00124855-00125207 also most corruption prone as well
z8ytg1T6IbM-00574-00125208-00125447 so thank you very much anita
z8ytg1T6IbM-00575-00125448-00125790 um our next panelist is um uh it's my
z8ytg1T6IbM-00576-00125791-00126151 pleasure to introduce ed edson cortes uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00577-00126152-00126454 edson is the exec and i hope you're
z8ytg1T6IbM-00578-00126455-00126631 still with us heads and i can't see you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00579-00126632-00127007 on my screen so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00580-00127008-00127151 hopefully you are here it's just a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00581-00127152-00127351 glitch but edson is the executive
z8ytg1T6IbM-00582-00127352-00128007 director of uh central
z8ytg1T6IbM-00583-00128008-00128263 or also known as ti's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00584-00128264-00128590 chapter in mata in mozambique so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00585-00128591-00128871 great to have you here edson
z8ytg1T6IbM-00586-00128872-00129375 in may of 2021 um sip and the norwegian
z8ytg1T6IbM-00587-00129376-00129678 uh mitchelson institute produced
z8ytg1T6IbM-00588-00129679-00130078 a groundbait
z8ytg1T6IbM-00589-00130079-00130239 report
z8ytg1T6IbM-00590-00130240-00130510 titled costs and consequences of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00591-00130511-00130686 hidden debt scandal
z8ytg1T6IbM-00592-00130688-00130919 and this report looks at how a hidden
z8ytg1T6IbM-00593-00130920-00131166 and corrupt loan to mozambique a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00594-00131167-00131407 guaranteed loan of u.s two billion
z8ytg1T6IbM-00595-00131408-00131814 dollars actually cost the country u.s 11
z8ytg1T6IbM-00596-00131815-00131911 billion
z8ytg1T6IbM-00597-00131912-00131983 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00598-00131984-00132087 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00599-00132088-00132414 undoubtedly you know exacerbated poverty
z8ytg1T6IbM-00600-00132415-00132654 uh in in the country
z8ytg1T6IbM-00601-00132655-00132902 so um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00602-00132903-00133214 before we turn to the actual report that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00603-00133215-00133454 you co-authored uh edson can you tell us
z8ytg1T6IbM-00604-00133455-00133583 a little about
z8ytg1T6IbM-00605-00133584-00133751 what's the state of play your foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00606-00133752-00133975 bribery mozambique in general and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00607-00133976-00134166 perhaps you could just touch on a couple
z8ytg1T6IbM-00608-00134167-00134407 of cases and the impacts including the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00609-00134408-00134711 impact on democracy and human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-00610-00134712-00135135 that it's had in in mozambique
z8ytg1T6IbM-00611-00135136-00135359 morning thank you serena
z8ytg1T6IbM-00612-00135360-00135727 well and mozambique wherever this type
z8ytg1T6IbM-00613-00135728-00135878 of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00614-00135879-00136175 cases related with uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00615-00136176-00136463 with corruption bible corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-00616-00136464-00136575 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00617-00136576-00136678 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00618-00136679-00137111 i will try to nominate three cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-00619-00137112-00137351 and the impact of this case is because
z8ytg1T6IbM-00620-00137352-00137502 this is the loans
z8ytg1T6IbM-00621-00137503-00137766 that the government contract
z8ytg1T6IbM-00622-00137767-00137895 with the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00623-00137896-00138039 foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00624-00138040-00138278 banks for example
z8ytg1T6IbM-00625-00138279-00138527 digital migration
z8ytg1T6IbM-00626-00138528-00138863 in mozambique in 2030
z8ytg1T6IbM-00627-00138864-00139166 a chinese company won the the this
z8ytg1T6IbM-00628-00139167-00139351 tender without
z8ytg1T6IbM-00629-00139352-00139566 any kind of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00630-00139567-00139719 of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00631-00139720-00139983 with the direct adjudication
z8ytg1T6IbM-00632-00139984-00140078 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00633-00140079-00140359 the company is as well connected with
z8ytg1T6IbM-00634-00140360-00140590 the daughter of the former president of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00635-00140591-00140823 mozambique mr mandu gebuzz
z8ytg1T6IbM-00636-00140824-00141159 and we have also the construction of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00637-00141160-00141414 nakala airport by
z8ytg1T6IbM-00638-00141415-00141671 the brazilian company or the branch if
z8ytg1T6IbM-00639-00141672-00141751 you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00640-00141752-00142078 heard about lavagiato scandal you heard
z8ytg1T6IbM-00641-00142079-00142311 about other branch so all the british
z8ytg1T6IbM-00642-00142312-00142502 built a huge
z8ytg1T6IbM-00643-00142503-00142895 airport in nacala province without any
z8ytg1T6IbM-00644-00142896-00143359 uh business plan and this is a huge
z8ytg1T6IbM-00645-00143360-00143654 a wide telephone in mozambique no one
z8ytg1T6IbM-00646-00143655-00143935 used this airport it cost more than 100
z8ytg1T6IbM-00647-00143936-00144223 million us dollars the former minister
z8ytg1T6IbM-00648-00144224-00144511 of finance is involved in in this kind
z8ytg1T6IbM-00649-00144512-00144823 of and we also have the the problem with
z8ytg1T6IbM-00650-00144824-00145126 embryo is a brazilian
z8ytg1T6IbM-00651-00145127-00145302 aircraft builder
z8ytg1T6IbM-00652-00145303-00145583 they sell three aircraft to mozambique
z8ytg1T6IbM-00653-00145584-00145854 company at ireland and the former
z8ytg1T6IbM-00654-00145855-00146183 minister of transport is sued and now is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00655-00146184-00146311 in jail
z8ytg1T6IbM-00656-00146312-00146559 because of this because they he won 2
z8ytg1T6IbM-00657-00146560-00146863 million dollars and this can all these
z8ytg1T6IbM-00658-00146864-00146999 scandals
z8ytg1T6IbM-00659-00147000-00147247 the government ask for loans
z8ytg1T6IbM-00660-00147248-00147511 to to be involved in this
z8ytg1T6IbM-00661-00147512-00147759 country to pay these companies
z8ytg1T6IbM-00662-00147760-00148126 and after this they need to pay the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00663-00148127-00148319 the debt service
z8ytg1T6IbM-00664-00148320-00148543 and if the government need to pay the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00665-00148544-00148743 debt service they don't have money to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00666-00148744-00148863 invest in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00667-00148864-00149159 the social areas as education
z8ytg1T6IbM-00668-00149160-00149254 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00669-00149255-00149454 health and we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00670-00149455-00149983 eat mozambique we know that if you have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00671-00149984-00150151 some money
z8ytg1T6IbM-00672-00150152-00150295 and you are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00673-00150296-00150551 suffer something you are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00674-00150552-00150695 some disease
z8ytg1T6IbM-00675-00150696-00150926 it's better to go to the private sector
z8ytg1T6IbM-00676-00150927-00151063 to private
z8ytg1T6IbM-00677-00151064-00151287 sector instead of to go to the public
z8ytg1T6IbM-00678-00151288-00151559 health service because if you go to the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00679-00151560-00151726 public service
z8ytg1T6IbM-00680-00151727-00151935 health you will die
z8ytg1T6IbM-00681-00151936-00152135 because you don't
z8ytg1T6IbM-00682-00152136-00152383 find the medicines so this is the kind
z8ytg1T6IbM-00683-00152384-00152647 of thing that we suffer here because of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00684-00152648-00152719 the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00685-00152720-00153007 lack of investment in the public
z8ytg1T6IbM-00686-00153008-00153135 service
z8ytg1T6IbM-00687-00153136-00153383 because the government have a lot of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00688-00153384-00153590 loans and they need to pay
z8ytg1T6IbM-00689-00153591-00154551 for the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00690-00154552-00154639 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00691-00154640-00154814 you might have just dropped out there
z8ytg1T6IbM-00692-00154815-00154983 it's and i hope you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00693-00154984-00155166 come back on in a minute but i think you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00694-00155167-00155383 might make some um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00695-00155384-00155478 really
z8ytg1T6IbM-00696-00155479-00155726 you know really important points one
z8ytg1T6IbM-00697-00155727-00156023 about you know just the the impact of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00698-00156024-00156231 corruption and particularly in in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00699-00156232-00156495 infrastructure sector uh that can end up
z8ytg1T6IbM-00700-00156496-00156719 in uh white elephant projects
z8ytg1T6IbM-00701-00156720-00156943 but also of course
z8ytg1T6IbM-00702-00156944-00157151 the very fundamental issue that the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00703-00157152-00157326 bribery and corruption you know is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00704-00157327-00157559 really robbing a country of money that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00705-00157560-00157807 is needed for essential services
z8ytg1T6IbM-00706-00157808-00158095 um and i'm glad you're back now um just
z8ytg1T6IbM-00707-00158096-00158471 a follow-up question i um edson now
z8ytg1T6IbM-00708-00158472-00158847 turning to this uh infamous tuna bombs
z8ytg1T6IbM-00709-00158848-00159054 or hidden loans case
z8ytg1T6IbM-00710-00159055-00159343 what what did you report find in terms
z8ytg1T6IbM-00711-00159344-00159839 of the harm that it caused
z8ytg1T6IbM-00712-00159840-00159990 well
z8ytg1T6IbM-00713-00159991-00160278 this is the huge uh corrupt scandal in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00714-00160279-00160511 mozambique related with didn't that is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00715-00160512-00160895 the scandal that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00716-00160896-00161343 started in 2012 until 2004
z8ytg1T6IbM-00717-00161344-00161478 when the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00718-00161479-00161687 the private invest private invest
z8ytg1T6IbM-00719-00161688-00161863 lebanese company
z8ytg1T6IbM-00720-00161864-00162023 joined with
z8ytg1T6IbM-00721-00162024-00162166 credit suisse
z8ytg1T6IbM-00722-00162167-00162326 and vtb
z8ytg1T6IbM-00723-00162327-00162423 they
z8ytg1T6IbM-00724-00162424-00162695 arranged a huge
z8ytg1T6IbM-00725-00162696-00162831 big
z8ytg1T6IbM-00726-00162832-00163223 scam with the police
z8ytg1T6IbM-00727-00163224-00163454 get more than 2 billion dollars
z8ytg1T6IbM-00728-00163455-00163863 and after the in 2060 when the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00729-00163864-00163943 the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00730-00163944-00164071 american
z8ytg1T6IbM-00731-00164072-00164311 funds of investments start to complain
z8ytg1T6IbM-00732-00164312-00164463 about the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00733-00164464-00164671 the money they invest in most of them
z8ytg1T6IbM-00734-00164672-00164878 you don't pay the money
z8ytg1T6IbM-00735-00164879-00165119 this kind of appears in the media
z8ytg1T6IbM-00736-00165120-00165263 so and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00737-00165264-00165463 when these appear muslim people receive
z8ytg1T6IbM-00738-00165464-00165854 more than 400 million dollars from the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00739-00165855-00166102 international donors for their budget
z8ytg1T6IbM-00740-00166103-00166319 they they have this kind of modality we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00741-00166320-00166414 call
z8ytg1T6IbM-00742-00166415-00166583 they we call
z8ytg1T6IbM-00743-00166584-00166895 budget support and when the the donors
z8ytg1T6IbM-00744-00166896-00167190 uh knows the details about this can they
z8ytg1T6IbM-00745-00167191-00167431 suspend the date
z8ytg1T6IbM-00746-00167432-00167814 and this hate goes to the social areas
z8ytg1T6IbM-00747-00167815-00167911 so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00748-00167912-00168102 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00749-00168103-00168295 from 2006
z8ytg1T6IbM-00750-00168296-00168695 until 2009 mozambique's uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00751-00168696-00168935 the donors cut the budget support until
z8ytg1T6IbM-00752-00168936-00169190 now uh more than two million muslim
z8ytg1T6IbM-00753-00169191-00169463 becomes uh go beyond the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00754-00169464-00169663 perfect line
z8ytg1T6IbM-00755-00169664-00169831 many companies
z8ytg1T6IbM-00756-00169832-00170135 small median companies close it because
z8ytg1T6IbM-00757-00170136-00170287 they uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00758-00170288-00170447 they
z8ytg1T6IbM-00759-00170448-00170543 won
z8ytg1T6IbM-00760-00170544-00170735 tenders with the government with the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00761-00170736-00171014 state and the state they they don't have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00762-00171015-00171247 an enough money to pay
z8ytg1T6IbM-00763-00171248-00171375 the tenders
z8ytg1T6IbM-00764-00171376-00171495 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00765-00171496-00171863 we start to to see the tension with
z8ytg1T6IbM-00766-00171864-00172502 political things
z8ytg1T6IbM-00767-00172503-00172719 because some people in the political
z8ytg1T6IbM-00768-00172720-00173014 elites they benefit from from this camp
z8ytg1T6IbM-00769-00173015-00173302 but other people in the political league
z8ytg1T6IbM-00770-00173303-00173583 they don't benefit and they suffer also
z8ytg1T6IbM-00771-00173584-00173911 with the huge economic and financial
z8ytg1T6IbM-00772-00173912-00174014 crisis
z8ytg1T6IbM-00773-00174015-00174383 so now we have a trial for more than 19
z8ytg1T6IbM-00774-00174384-00174638 persons including the former administ
z8ytg1T6IbM-00775-00174639-00174775 former
z8ytg1T6IbM-00776-00174776-00174975 the son of former president of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00777-00174976-00175214 mozambique armando
z8ytg1T6IbM-00778-00175215-00175559 who won more than 33 million dollars
z8ytg1T6IbM-00779-00175560-00175702 in this candle
z8ytg1T6IbM-00780-00175703-00175895 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00781-00175896-00176166 all of people who are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00782-00176167-00176399 belongs to the inner circle of president
z8ytg1T6IbM-00783-00176400-00176695 gebuza they want a lot of money with all
z8ytg1T6IbM-00784-00176696-00176807 of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00785-00176808-00177031 all these kind of and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00786-00177032-00177263 after the audit
z8ytg1T6IbM-00787-00177264-00177399 crawl out it
z8ytg1T6IbM-00788-00177400-00177671 they don't understand where
z8ytg1T6IbM-00789-00177672-00177775 seven
z8ytg1T6IbM-00790-00177776-00177926 dollars finish
z8ytg1T6IbM-00791-00177927-00178238 so this is uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00792-00178239-00178454 the point of situation now
z8ytg1T6IbM-00793-00178455-00178614 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00794-00178615-00178783 the the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00795-00178784-00178887 we
z8ytg1T6IbM-00796-00178888-00179047 we have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00797-00179048-00179199 the the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00798-00179200-00179283 we are
z8ytg1T6IbM-00799-00179284-00179575 fighting in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00800-00179576-00179847 we have a trial here in mozambique in uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-00801-00179848-00180102 in switzerland
z8ytg1T6IbM-00802-00180103-00180359 hello can you hear me
z8ytg1T6IbM-00803-00180360-00180599 yep i can i can hear you yep we can hear
z8ytg1T6IbM-00804-00180600-00181287 you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00805-00181288-00181535 okay i think you you've
z8ytg1T6IbM-00806-00181536-00181814 frozen a little bit there edson um can
z8ytg1T6IbM-00807-00181815-00182014 you hear me or just give a thumbs up if
z8ytg1T6IbM-00808-00182015-00182166 you can hear me otherwise perhaps we'll
z8ytg1T6IbM-00809-00182167-00182254 come back
z8ytg1T6IbM-00810-00182255-00182399 okay i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00811-00182400-00182743 i can hear you i can hear you okay
z8ytg1T6IbM-00812-00182744-00182975 well perhaps it perhaps if you just um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00813-00182976-00183183 one more one more minute and then wrap
z8ytg1T6IbM-00814-00183184-00183847 up and then we'll move on to sue
z8ytg1T6IbM-00815-00183848-00184111 well i i i think i'm done
z8ytg1T6IbM-00816-00184112-00184319 okay
z8ytg1T6IbM-00817-00184320-00184719 thank you summarize thank you for that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00818-00184720-00184966 no we we certainly got all of that and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00819-00184967-00185166 um i guess you know what really what
z8ytg1T6IbM-00820-00185167-00185407 you've you've described to us is is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00821-00185408-00185623 really the really disastrous and tragic
z8ytg1T6IbM-00822-00185624-00185902 consequences that this case has had and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00823-00185903-00186150 i think it's a watch this space in terms
z8ytg1T6IbM-00824-00186151-00186343 of the cases uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00825-00186344-00186550 certainly in the uk and i'm sure our
z8ytg1T6IbM-00826-00186551-00186743 next guest sue will be watching very
z8ytg1T6IbM-00827-00186744-00186919 closely to see what happens with this
z8ytg1T6IbM-00828-00186920-00187207 case uh in the uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-00829-00187208-00187350 um so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00830-00187351-00187526 we're going to now to turn to have a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00831-00187527-00187719 look at a couple of the major exporting
z8ytg1T6IbM-00832-00187720-00188063 countries the uk and france um looking
z8ytg1T6IbM-00833-00188064-00188263 at the the supply side of foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-00834-00188264-00188423 bribery if you like
z8ytg1T6IbM-00835-00188424-00188783 um susan hordley welcome um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00836-00188784-00188950 you've got your job cut out for you
z8ytg1T6IbM-00837-00188951-00189319 tracking that case clearly in the uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-00838-00189320-00189566 um susan is the executive director and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00839-00189567-00189926 founder of the uk ngo spotlight on
z8ytg1T6IbM-00840-00189927-00190150 corruption and was previously the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00841-00190151-00190343 founder and policy director of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00842-00190344-00190543 corruption watch uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-00843-00190544-00190775 she's worked on anti-corruption issues
z8ytg1T6IbM-00844-00190776-00191126 in the uk for for nearly two two decades
z8ytg1T6IbM-00845-00191127-00191487 and is very well known and respected um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00846-00191488-00191750 beyond the uk borders and her and her
z8ytg1T6IbM-00847-00191751-00191902 work in this area
z8ytg1T6IbM-00848-00191903-00192135 so sue welcome um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00849-00192136-00192511 the uk a common law jurisdiction has
z8ytg1T6IbM-00850-00192512-00192814 been a leader in some respects in terms
z8ytg1T6IbM-00851-00192815-00193063 of recognizing the harm caused by
z8ytg1T6IbM-00852-00193064-00193254 foreign bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-00853-00193255-00193599 the uk has compensation principles and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00854-00193600-00193807 has made a few awards
z8ytg1T6IbM-00855-00193808-00194038 but can you really tell us about just
z8ytg1T6IbM-00856-00194039-00194302 how well that's worked how was
z8ytg1T6IbM-00857-00194303-00194583 compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00858-00194584-00194854 calculated you know even roughly and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00859-00194855-00195071 what were some of the avenues that have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00860-00195072-00195383 been used to make that compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00861-00195384-00195519 thank you so much and thanks for your
z8ytg1T6IbM-00862-00195520-00195711 cutting word serena i'm really pleased
z8ytg1T6IbM-00863-00195712-00195895 be part of this discussion
z8ytg1T6IbM-00864-00195896-00195975 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00865-00195976-00196087 and uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00866-00196088-00196326 drago alluded to the painful
z8ytg1T6IbM-00867-00196327-00196478 process of
z8ytg1T6IbM-00868-00196479-00196735 victims not being recognized in the last
z8ytg1T6IbM-00869-00196736-00197007 round of oecd discussions about
z8ytg1T6IbM-00870-00197008-00197159 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00871-00197160-00197383 the new recommendation and it's a pity
z8ytg1T6IbM-00872-00197384-00197566 because actually the uk's compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00873-00197567-00197814 principles came out of the 2016 london
z8ytg1T6IbM-00874-00197815-00198078 anti-corruption summit
z8ytg1T6IbM-00875-00198079-00198263 where the communique specifically
z8ytg1T6IbM-00876-00198264-00198463 recognized that compensation can be i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00877-00198464-00198663 quote an important method to support
z8ytg1T6IbM-00878-00198664-00198926 those who have suffered from corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-00879-00198927-00199238 um and so the uk developed compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00880-00199239-00199495 principles in in june 2018
z8ytg1T6IbM-00881-00199496-00199711 for their prosecuting and investigating
z8ytg1T6IbM-00882-00199712-00199878 bodies so that's a serious forward
z8ytg1T6IbM-00883-00199879-00200047 office national crime agency and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00884-00200048-00200223 prosecution service
z8ytg1T6IbM-00885-00200224-00200350 and these principles are quite
z8ytg1T6IbM-00886-00200351-00200614 groundbreaking i mean they require and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00887-00200615-00200863 commit the agencies to identify who can
z8ytg1T6IbM-00888-00200864-00201143 be regarded as a victim assess the case
z8ytg1T6IbM-00889-00201144-00201431 for compensation obtain the evidence and
z8ytg1T6IbM-00890-00201432-00201583 ensure that the process of paying
z8ytg1T6IbM-00891-00201584-00201766 compensation is fair transparent
z8ytg1T6IbM-00892-00201767-00201975 accountable and avoids further
z8ytg1T6IbM-00893-00201976-00202143 corruption which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00894-00202144-00202319 cuts to another point that drago was
z8ytg1T6IbM-00895-00202320-00202454 raising
z8ytg1T6IbM-00896-00202455-00202654 so but how have they really worked in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00897-00202655-00202911 practice so actually all the most
z8ytg1T6IbM-00898-00202912-00203087 significant compensation claims happened
z8ytg1T6IbM-00899-00203088-00203447 before these principles were introduced
z8ytg1T6IbM-00900-00203448-00203671 you had a situation where
z8ytg1T6IbM-00901-00203672-00203902 we've had 4.6 million dollars paid to
z8ytg1T6IbM-00902-00203903-00204126 tanzania under the first ever
z8ytg1T6IbM-00903-00204127-00204335 deferred prosecution agreement then a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00904-00204336-00204526 smaller compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00905-00204527-00204726 to kenya and mauritania
z8ytg1T6IbM-00906-00204727-00204975 by accompanying the bribery a bribing
z8ytg1T6IbM-00907-00204976-00205190 electoral bodies to win printing
z8ytg1T6IbM-00908-00205191-00205519 contracts for electoral um material
z8ytg1T6IbM-00909-00205519-00205703 and then the largest ever most
z8ytg1T6IbM-00910-00205704-00205862 significant ever compensation order was
z8ytg1T6IbM-00911-00205863-00206190 11 million pounds to lithuania which was
z8ytg1T6IbM-00912-00206191-00206558 actually 50 of the contract price so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00913-00206559-00206766 really significant good compensations i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00914-00206767-00207127 mean the tanzania one was 21
z8ytg1T6IbM-00915-00207128-00207303 of the overall
z8ytg1T6IbM-00916-00207304-00207406 sanctioned
z8ytg1T6IbM-00917-00207407-00207671 the lithuania one was 60 of the overall
z8ytg1T6IbM-00918-00207671-00207790 sanction but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00919-00207791-00208055 what happened next you know so in 2016
z8ytg1T6IbM-00920-00208056-00208271 there was suddenly silence you know they
z8ytg1T6IbM-00921-00208271-00208479 produced the compensation principles but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00922-00208480-00208631 nothing was happening and we had a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00923-00208632-00208975 five-year gap with some very very big uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00924-00208976-00209214 bribery cases we had airbus we had unit
z8ytg1T6IbM-00925-00209215-00209534 oil with no compensation at all
z8ytg1T6IbM-00926-00209535-00209806 until finally in july this year
z8ytg1T6IbM-00927-00209807-00209967 uh there was a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00928-00209967-00210223 construction company amik foster wheeler
z8ytg1T6IbM-00929-00210223-00210334 it was a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00930-00210335-00210655 amount of 210 000 pounds was paid in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00931-00210656-00210951 compensation to nigeria but crucially
z8ytg1T6IbM-00932-00210952-00211231 this represented just 0.2 percent of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00933-00211232-00211446 overall fine uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-00934-00211448-00211663 the overall section
z8ytg1T6IbM-00935-00211664-00211839 and it wasn't paid to any of the other
z8ytg1T6IbM-00936-00211840-00212175 five uh countries involved in um that
z8ytg1T6IbM-00937-00212176-00212446 bribery scheme so overall you've had
z8ytg1T6IbM-00938-00212448-00212671 seven deferred prosecution agreements
z8ytg1T6IbM-00939-00212671-00212910 for foreign bribery in the uk which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00940-00212911-00213071 resulted in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00941-00213071-00213391 settlements of 1.4 billion pounds
z8ytg1T6IbM-00942-00213392-00213751 and compensation of 4.8 million paid so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00943-00213752-00214071 that's just 0.34
z8ytg1T6IbM-00944-00214071-00214303 of the overall amount has ever been paid
z8ytg1T6IbM-00945-00214304-00214542 in compensation and it isn't any better
z8ytg1T6IbM-00946-00214544-00214742 with criminal convictions in fact it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00947-00214744-00214871 worse
z8ytg1T6IbM-00948-00214871-00215079 uh so i think it's worth you know up on
z8ytg1T6IbM-00949-00215080-00215342 edson's very powerful uh presentation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00950-00215344-00215575 there uh that there was a recent case
z8ytg1T6IbM-00951-00215576-00215839 where credit suisse was fined in the uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-00952-00215840-00216110 by the regulator and they imposed a fine
z8ytg1T6IbM-00953-00216111-00216319 of 147 million
z8ytg1T6IbM-00954-00216319-00216510 as part of which they required the bank
z8ytg1T6IbM-00955-00216511-00216823 to forgive 200 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-00956-00216823-00217071 200 million dollars worth of debt but
z8ytg1T6IbM-00957-00217071-00217455 overall the 350 million pound fine went
z8ytg1T6IbM-00958-00217456-00217758 into uk and us treasuries when as edson
z8ytg1T6IbM-00959-00217759-00217942 was pointing out you know people in
z8ytg1T6IbM-00960-00217944-00218127 mozambique were forced into really
z8ytg1T6IbM-00961-00218128-00218527 abject poverty by this bribery scheme
z8ytg1T6IbM-00962-00218528-00218694 so i don't want to um i mean i can tell
z8ytg1T6IbM-00963-00218696-00218863 you you know in detail how compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-00964-00218864-00219046 is calculated it's very limited it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-00965-00219048-00219231 very much about you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-00966-00219232-00219446 whether a contract was inflated the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00967-00219448-00219646 goods were delivered and it's only ever
z8ytg1T6IbM-00968-00219648-00219846 about the amount of the bribe paid which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00969-00219848-00219998 is why we've seen very very small
z8ytg1T6IbM-00970-00220000-00220279 amounts generally apart from the very
z8ytg1T6IbM-00971-00220280-00220471 groundbreaking lithuanian deal which has
z8ytg1T6IbM-00972-00220471-00220710 never been replicated
z8ytg1T6IbM-00973-00220711-00220934 what are the barriers very briefly the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00974-00220935-00221119 key barrier is actually not the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00975-00221119-00221319 prosecutors in the courts
z8ytg1T6IbM-00976-00221319-00221582 and in the uk the case stories you can
z8ytg1T6IbM-00977-00221583-00221871 only do compensation in simple cases so
z8ytg1T6IbM-00978-00221871-00222039 the bottom line is foreign bribery is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00979-00222040-00222319 never simple it's always complex and the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00980-00222319-00222510 more widespread more egregious the
z8ytg1T6IbM-00981-00222511-00222798 bribery the more complex the less likely
z8ytg1T6IbM-00982-00222800-00222982 compensation is to be paid which is a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00983-00222983-00223175 very unsatisfactory situation which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00984-00223176-00223398 we've been pointing out that we need a
z8ytg1T6IbM-00985-00223400-00223606 legislative amendment in the uniform
z8ytg1T6IbM-00986-00223607-00223742 address
z8ytg1T6IbM-00987-00223744-00223975 second barrier is about returned which
z8ytg1T6IbM-00988-00223976-00224191 dragger raised and i think the important
z8ytg1T6IbM-00989-00224192-00224398 thing is you know we do have some really
z8ytg1T6IbM-00990-00224400-00224598 effective principles from the global
z8ytg1T6IbM-00991-00224600-00224767 forum and asset recovery on how to do
z8ytg1T6IbM-00992-00224767-00224927 this that shouldn't be a barrier as
z8ytg1T6IbM-00993-00224928-00225255 drago says you know this can be done
z8ytg1T6IbM-00994-00225256-00225494 uh it's not being perfectly done we have
z8ytg1T6IbM-00995-00225496-00225782 lots of questions about how the uk is
z8ytg1T6IbM-00996-00225783-00225975 doing it but one very final comment i
z8ytg1T6IbM-00997-00225976-00226191 want to make is really the narrative
z8ytg1T6IbM-00998-00226192-00226415 around how money is returned because
z8ytg1T6IbM-00999-00226416-00226646 what we're seeing in the uk is money is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01000-00226648-00226815 being returned particularly from civil
z8ytg1T6IbM-01001-00226816-00227039 recovery cases but it's being returned
z8ytg1T6IbM-01002-00227040-00227287 with a big bang of aid and patronage you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01003-00227288-00227519 know here we are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01004-00227519-00227791 generous payment in the kenya case you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01005-00227792-00227958 know it was fundamentally undermined
z8ytg1T6IbM-01006-00227959-00228223 democracy in kenya very small amount was
z8ytg1T6IbM-01007-00228223-00228487 paid it was you know boris johnson or
z8ytg1T6IbM-01008-00228488-00228655 now prime minister went to kenya and he
z8ytg1T6IbM-01009-00228656-00228910 said we're spending this on ambulances
z8ytg1T6IbM-01010-00228911-00229134 uh and the company involved put out a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01011-00229135-00229375 big press releasing we have helped by
z8ytg1T6IbM-01012-00229376-00229582 ambulances in kenya so the company that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01013-00229583-00229782 paid the bribes
z8ytg1T6IbM-01014-00229783-00229975 fundamentally undermined democracy in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01015-00229976-00230206 kenya was allowed to use it as a pr
z8ytg1T6IbM-01016-00230207-00230487 opportunity so there's some real issues
z8ytg1T6IbM-01017-00230488-00230663 about you know how do you make sure it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01018-00230664-00230815 operation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01019-00230816-00230934 and not
z8ytg1T6IbM-01020-00230935-00231175 just patronage and the northern
z8ytg1T6IbM-01021-00231176-00231503 countries being generous with this money
z8ytg1T6IbM-01022-00231504-00231631 now i think that's a really good point
z8ytg1T6IbM-01023-00231632-00231846 that you make that it's uh the risks of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01024-00231848-00232055 it being turned on its head and becoming
z8ytg1T6IbM-01025-00232056-00232367 a pr exercise for the company um is is a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01026-00232367-00232655 really valid one and certainly i mean i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01027-00232656-00232967 was really shocked to hear that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01028-00232967-00233151 the more egregious and widespread the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01029-00233152-00233319 bribery the less likely the compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01030-00233319-00233471 will be paid i mean that that is a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01031-00233471-00233703 fundamental problem that we've got if
z8ytg1T6IbM-01032-00233704-00233934 we're only tinkering at the edges and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01033-00233935-00234198 it's the the simplest smaller cases that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01034-00234200-00234415 have been compensated
z8ytg1T6IbM-01035-00234416-00234663 but just um quickly so i i just wondered
z8ytg1T6IbM-01036-00234664-00234806 whether or not you think there's scope
z8ytg1T6IbM-01037-00234807-00234991 in the uk for victims other than the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01038-00234992-00235182 state to be recognized you know this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01039-00235183-00235655 issue around individual victims as well
z8ytg1T6IbM-01040-00235656-00235863 so this is this is a really key question
z8ytg1T6IbM-01041-00235864-00236006 i hope we can get into a really meaty
z8ytg1T6IbM-01042-00236007-00236279 discussion about it um i mean for some
z8ytg1T6IbM-01043-00236280-00236527 time we've been pushing uk prosecutors
z8ytg1T6IbM-01044-00236528-00236751 to look at community impact statements
z8ytg1T6IbM-01045-00236752-00236910 in bribery cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-01046-00236911-00237071 not least to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01047-00237071-00237334 make jurors in criminal cases you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01048-00237335-00237534 interested and excited by these cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-01049-00237535-00237742 which could otherwise be incredibly dry
z8ytg1T6IbM-01050-00237744-00237991 you know reams and reams of financial
z8ytg1T6IbM-01051-00237992-00238119 information
z8ytg1T6IbM-01052-00238119-00238327 and you know there's getting the voices
z8ytg1T6IbM-01053-00238328-00238542 of victims heard in uk court and the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01054-00238544-00238767 harm really represented
z8ytg1T6IbM-01055-00238767-00238998 uh it's a real uphill battle and we're
z8ytg1T6IbM-01056-00239000-00239198 not winning that one
z8ytg1T6IbM-01057-00239200-00239510 i'm afraid um i mean i think the other
z8ytg1T6IbM-01058-00239511-00239742 case um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01059-00239744-00239910 is we've been highlighting the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01060-00239911-00240151 discrepancy between how harm is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01061-00240152-00240439 identified so in individual cases they
z8ytg1T6IbM-01062-00240440-00240671 recognize that harm includes undermining
z8ytg1T6IbM-01063-00240671-00240846 the proper functioning of government or
z8ytg1T6IbM-01064-00240848-00241071 public services but that harm isn't
z8ytg1T6IbM-01065-00241071-00241279 reflected in the corporate um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01066-00241280-00241446 assessments of harm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01067-00241448-00241646 so the courts take a very very narrow
z8ytg1T6IbM-01068-00241648-00241846 view in the uk and they're very
z8ytg1T6IbM-01069-00241848-00242094 reluctant to expand the definition
z8ytg1T6IbM-01070-00242096-00242271 beyond the state
z8ytg1T6IbM-01071-00242271-00242487 and prosecutors really are a bit bound
z8ytg1T6IbM-01072-00242488-00242655 by that you know they can try and bring
z8ytg1T6IbM-01073-00242656-00242791 test cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-01074-00242792-00242967 it's very hard i think the key test is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01075-00242967-00243175 one that relates to something i need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01076-00243176-00243494 raise which is a case in the uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-01077-00243496-00243703 involving a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01078-00243704-00243903 company a mining company that paid
z8ytg1T6IbM-01079-00243904-00244223 bribes in the drc linked to the gertler
z8ytg1T6IbM-01080-00244223-00244415 case i need to mention
z8ytg1T6IbM-01081-00244416-00244575 and uh in that case some quite
z8ytg1T6IbM-01082-00244576-00244815 groundbreaking work is being done by a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01083-00244816-00245046 colleague ngo that we were called raid
z8ytg1T6IbM-01084-00245048-00245142 rights and accountability and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01085-00245144-00245398 development and they brought forward 16
z8ytg1T6IbM-01086-00245400-00245719 individuals to the sfo to be compensated
z8ytg1T6IbM-01087-00245719-00245975 who were affected this really raises
z8ytg1T6IbM-01088-00245976-00246255 some very interesting issues about
z8ytg1T6IbM-01089-00246256-00246494 when is corruption individualized when
z8ytg1T6IbM-01090-00246496-00246734 is the harm of corruption individualized
z8ytg1T6IbM-01091-00246735-00247006 or is it always really a community harm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01092-00247007-00247206 can you actually find individuals and do
z8ytg1T6IbM-01093-00247207-00247519 you create unintended consequences uh by
z8ytg1T6IbM-01094-00247519-00247687 that you create a kind of gold rush to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01095-00247688-00247855 the compensation of individuals which
z8ytg1T6IbM-01096-00247856-00248039 might leave other people out
z8ytg1T6IbM-01097-00248040-00248215 so that's the kind of key difference i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01098-00248216-00248591 think human rights and corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01099-00248592-00248815 and thank you for that and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01100-00248816-00249046 all power to raid and patricia feeney
z8ytg1T6IbM-01101-00249048-00249287 who have been leading this work uh in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01102-00249288-00249534 the drc for many many years
z8ytg1T6IbM-01103-00249535-00249758 um so thank you very much sue
z8ytg1T6IbM-01104-00249759-00250023 um our next panelist i'm delighted to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01105-00250023-00250294 welcome caroline gousay a legal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01106-00250296-00250682 counselor
z8ytg1T6IbM-01107-00250683-00250887 from the french minister of foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-01108-00250888-00251198 affairs um welcome caroline um i should
z8ytg1T6IbM-01109-00251200-00251487 add caroline is an active um french
z8ytg1T6IbM-01110-00251488-00251663 representative in in numerous
z8ytg1T6IbM-01111-00251664-00251903 international fora uh including the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01112-00251904-00252246 united nations the oecd and the g20
z8ytg1T6IbM-01113-00252248-00252479 and she's also previously practiced as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01114-00252480-00252734 an attorney uh specialized in white
z8ytg1T6IbM-01115-00252735-00253030 collar crime uh including asset
z8ytg1T6IbM-01116-00253031-00253334 recovery and and generally corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01117-00253335-00253487 issues so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01118-00253488-00253734 welcome caroline we're really pleased to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01119-00253735-00254006 have you here um caroline
z8ytg1T6IbM-01120-00254007-00254303 how can victims of foreign bribery be
z8ytg1T6IbM-01121-00254304-00254598 compensated in france noting it's a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01122-00254600-00254815 civil law jurisdiction
z8ytg1T6IbM-01123-00254816-00255030 and could you perhaps uh explain a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01124-00255031-00255206 little bit to us the framework for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01125-00255207-00255430 victims to make claims before the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01126-00255431-00255775 criminal court
z8ytg1T6IbM-01127-00255776-00255998 hi everyone and and thank you very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01128-00256000-00256182 for having me i'm delighted to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01129-00256183-00256406 participate and i was very interested in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01130-00256407-00256567 in the previous presentations and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01131-00256567-00256710 announces
z8ytg1T6IbM-01132-00256711-00256942 and actually i have so many questions i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01133-00256944-00257151 think for sue in in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01134-00257152-00257423 and i i found it interesting the remark
z8ytg1T6IbM-01135-00257423-00257703 on on jury trials for corruption uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01136-00257704-00257927 offenses in the uk while in france we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01137-00257928-00258039 don't have
z8ytg1T6IbM-01138-00258040-00258230 uh uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01139-00258231-00258406 we do have jury trials but not for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01140-00258407-00258671 corruption offenses so i think it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01141-00258671-00258910 it it might be that the topic of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01142-00258911-00259175 another future debate but it's it's it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01143-00259176-00259310 very interesting
z8ytg1T6IbM-01144-00259311-00259406 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01145-00259407-00259719 yes and and i would also uh like to to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01146-00259719-00259967 comment on on what was uh mentioned
z8ytg1T6IbM-01147-00259967-00260151 before i think we understand uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01148-00260152-00260430 compensation of victims uh more
z8ytg1T6IbM-01149-00260431-00260671 generally in the sense of uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01150-00260671-00261006 asset return to victims of of corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01151-00261007-00261198 but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01152-00261200-00261415 before that and and thank you for your
z8ytg1T6IbM-01153-00261416-00261687 question you have uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01154-00261688-00261942 possibilities afforded
z8ytg1T6IbM-01155-00261944-00262247 for victims to be a legal party in a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01156-00262248-00262510 criminal or civil trials uh in in france
z8ytg1T6IbM-01157-00262511-00262727 and in other countries and and on this i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01158-00262728-00262895 would like to point out that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01159-00262896-00263110 we have talked about the oecd convention
z8ytg1T6IbM-01160-00263111-00263382 and the ocd recommendation and and i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01161-00263383-00263623 think i i should just mention the young
z8ytg1T6IbM-01162-00263624-00263806 cac
z8ytg1T6IbM-01163-00263807-00264103 because it is uh everyone knows around
z8ytg1T6IbM-01164-00264104-00264351 this table how uh important this text is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01165-00264352-00264687 as well and in the anc we uh often think
z8ytg1T6IbM-01166-00264688-00264927 about article 57
z8ytg1T6IbM-01167-00264928-00265167 but before that you have article 53 for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01168-00265168-00265519 direct measures of recovery and and it i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01169-00265520-00265775 think it's an often overlooked article
z8ytg1T6IbM-01170-00265776-00265975 of the convention and it's too bad
z8ytg1T6IbM-01171-00265976-00266247 because it's quite an efficient way to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01172-00266248-00266351 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01173-00266352-00266551 compensate victims of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01174-00266552-00266806 bribery brain bribery and corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01175-00266807-00267119 um i i know that time is is running so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01176-00267120-00267255 i'll try to be
z8ytg1T6IbM-01177-00267256-00267647 as brief as as possible but uh in french
z8ytg1T6IbM-01178-00267648-00267863 law uh physical and legal persons
z8ytg1T6IbM-01179-00267864-00268095 including states can initiate action to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01180-00268096-00268399 establish uh ownership of of property or
z8ytg1T6IbM-01181-00268400-00268639 claims for compensation and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01182-00268640-00268806 it's either by
z8ytg1T6IbM-01183-00268807-00269039 participating in criminal proceedings as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01184-00269040-00269391 a civil party or by instituting separate
z8ytg1T6IbM-01185-00269392-00269599 civil proceedings and and the person
z8ytg1T6IbM-01186-00269600-00269767 bringing a civil action on behalf of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01187-00269768-00269943 state must only
z8ytg1T6IbM-01188-00269944-00270119 establish
z8ytg1T6IbM-01189-00270120-00270279 in accordance with principles of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01190-00270280-00270527 international law his or her capacity to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01191-00270528-00270671 represent that state before french
z8ytg1T6IbM-01192-00270672-00270806 courts
z8ytg1T6IbM-01193-00270807-00271087 and um i i briefly mentioned two minutes
z8ytg1T6IbM-01194-00271088-00271223 ago
z8ytg1T6IbM-01195-00271224-00271479 civil proceedings and i think it's also
z8ytg1T6IbM-01196-00271480-00271655 an interesting way because if the legal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01197-00271656-00271887 understanding of the victim under
z8ytg1T6IbM-01198-00271888-00272182 french criminal law is not expensive
z8ytg1T6IbM-01199-00272183-00272430 technically speaking one must prove that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01200-00272431-00272734 it has suffered a direct and personal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01201-00272735-00272903 harm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01202-00272904-00273175 from the from the offense uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01203-00273176-00273334 compensation can very well be obtained
z8ytg1T6IbM-01204-00273335-00273615 before civil courts and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01205-00273616-00273823 it's it's not an interest it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01206-00273824-00273999 interesting because uh where corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01207-00274000-00274239 is a criminal offence and offenders uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01208-00274240-00274319 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01209-00274320-00274558 inc i mean we most of them do not
z8ytg1T6IbM-01210-00274559-00274710 consider criminal proceedings as the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01211-00274711-00274951 only or main way to obtain compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01212-00274952-00275199 for the injury but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01213-00275200-00275447 cases brought on civil liability claims
z8ytg1T6IbM-01214-00275448-00275615 that are in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01215-00275616-00275855 and i would i'm speaking out of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01216-00275856-00276047 control of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01217-00276048-00276247 common law
z8ytg1T6IbM-01218-00276248-00276439 jurists and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01219-00276440-00276558 legal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01220-00276559-00276791 technicians but i think it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01221-00276792-00277071 uh close to to total liability
z8ytg1T6IbM-01222-00277072-00277375 and in that sense and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01223-00277376-00277567 mentioned uh my former practice as an
z8ytg1T6IbM-01224-00277568-00277719 attorney but that's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01225-00277720-00278030 very technically what we did uh is is to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01226-00278031-00278110 to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01227-00278111-00278382 have asset recovery cases broad people
z8ytg1T6IbM-01228-00278383-00278710 civil courts uh on on with a legal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01229-00278711-00278927 standing that is easier to prove and a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01230-00278928-00279151 legal claim that is easier to establish
z8ytg1T6IbM-01231-00279152-00279415 than before criminal courts and and i'll
z8ytg1T6IbM-01232-00279416-00279687 be uh very frank as well
z8ytg1T6IbM-01233-00279688-00279875 in terms of money-wise and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01234-00279876-00280263 compensation-wise it's also
z8ytg1T6IbM-01235-00280264-00280447 more often than not more interesting
z8ytg1T6IbM-01236-00280448-00280663 before civil courts than it might be
z8ytg1T6IbM-01237-00280664-00280967 before uh criminal courts
z8ytg1T6IbM-01238-00280968-00281303 and um and very briefly because i'm also
z8ytg1T6IbM-01239-00281304-00281391 i'm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01240-00281392-00281679 here to to speak on behalf of my of my
z8ytg1T6IbM-01241-00281680-00281991 government and and what we can do well
z8ytg1T6IbM-01242-00281992-00282263 in france uh uh among
z8ytg1T6IbM-01243-00282264-00282358 us
z8ytg1T6IbM-01244-00282359-00282495 different faults
z8ytg1T6IbM-01245-00282496-00282663 uh is that a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01246-00282664-00282823 victim's legal standing is not the only
z8ytg1T6IbM-01247-00282824-00282958 way to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01248-00282959-00283287 ensure that we uh take victims into
z8ytg1T6IbM-01249-00283288-00283567 consideration in in in victims of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01250-00283568-00283782 foreign bribery um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01251-00283783-00283943 the french legal provisions for example
z8ytg1T6IbM-01252-00283944-00284119 that that creates a right for civil
z8ytg1T6IbM-01253-00284120-00284334 society organizations to initiate
z8ytg1T6IbM-01254-00284335-00284510 criminal proceedings
z8ytg1T6IbM-01255-00284511-00284719 in cases of uh international
z8ytg1T6IbM-01256-00284720-00284895 transnational corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01257-00284896-00285206 is is another way and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01258-00285207-00285439 i i think you you know that in france
z8ytg1T6IbM-01259-00285440-00285623 ngos can file a complaint if they are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01260-00285624-00285823 acting on behalf of the victim or in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01261-00285824-00285958 their own right
z8ytg1T6IbM-01262-00285959-00286143 and and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01263-00286144-00286503 some very well known uh cases of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01264-00286504-00286606 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01265-00286607-00286799 transnational corruption in in a larger
z8ytg1T6IbM-01266-00286800-00286975 sense of the word not in the bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-01267-00286976-00287158 sense of the word i mean there are some
z8ytg1T6IbM-01268-00287159-00287447 cases of bribery but more generally
z8ytg1T6IbM-01269-00287448-00287663 these some cases have been brought to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01270-00287664-00287863 courts on on the basis of ngo's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01271-00287864-00287975 complaints
z8ytg1T6IbM-01272-00287976-00288223 and and this is um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01273-00288224-00288406 i think it's it's an
z8ytg1T6IbM-01274-00288407-00288615 interesting way again to take into
z8ytg1T6IbM-01275-00288616-00288895 consideration and to to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01276-00288896-00289167 ensure legally speaking that victims are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01277-00289168-00289358 taken into consideration in foreign
z8ytg1T6IbM-01278-00289359-00289615 bribery cases and i will just point out
z8ytg1T6IbM-01279-00289616-00289871 that this has been uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01280-00289872-00290079 uh considered a good practice in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01281-00290080-00290415 implementation of of the ncac
z8ytg1T6IbM-01282-00290416-00290543 thank you for that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01283-00290544-00290815 and just um quickly by way of follow-up
z8ytg1T6IbM-01284-00290816-00291030 i understand that in france there are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01285-00291031-00291351 new provisions on on a social reuse
z8ytg1T6IbM-01286-00291352-00291615 mechanism and an asset return mechanism
z8ytg1T6IbM-01287-00291616-00291782 could you just spend perhaps two minutes
z8ytg1T6IbM-01288-00291783-00292054 uh telling us about those
z8ytg1T6IbM-01289-00292055-00292206 yes
z8ytg1T6IbM-01290-00292207-00292430 indeed we are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01291-00292431-00292630 first of all we're very happy
z8ytg1T6IbM-01292-00292631-00292743 about
z8ytg1T6IbM-01293-00292744-00292958 enacting the the new mechanism on asset
z8ytg1T6IbM-01294-00292959-00293054 return
z8ytg1T6IbM-01295-00293055-00293310 and and uh we have had actually
z8ytg1T6IbM-01296-00293311-00293582 discussions with uh countries that have
z8ytg1T6IbM-01297-00293583-00293710 not uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01298-00293711-00293815 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01299-00293816-00294047 inscribed this into law but that had
z8ytg1T6IbM-01300-00294048-00294406 experience in uh returning assets to to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01301-00294407-00294639 foreign uh foreign countries and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01302-00294640-00294799 foreign populations
z8ytg1T6IbM-01303-00294800-00294927 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01304-00294928-00295063 this uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01305-00295064-00295191 this new law
z8ytg1T6IbM-01306-00295192-00295382 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01307-00295383-00295654 it it it creates a new mechanism to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01308-00295655-00295895 return ill goods and gains and its aim
z8ytg1T6IbM-01309-00295896-00296087 is to return some confiscated in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01310-00296088-00296310 procedures in criminal procedures of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01311-00296311-00296558 ill-getting ill-gotten gains
z8ytg1T6IbM-01312-00296559-00296815 as close as possible to the populations
z8ytg1T6IbM-01313-00296816-00297030 of the countries of origin through
z8ytg1T6IbM-01314-00297031-00297303 cooperation and development actions
z8ytg1T6IbM-01315-00297304-00297510 um and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01316-00297511-00297806 so this has been entered into law in in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01317-00297807-00298047 august but this it will be complemented
z8ytg1T6IbM-01318-00298048-00298415 by a provision in the 22 in 2022 finance
z8ytg1T6IbM-01319-00298416-00298671 law and we are discussing
z8ytg1T6IbM-01320-00298672-00298767 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01321-00298768-00298951 actually with civil society including
z8ytg1T6IbM-01322-00298952-00299263 transparency international uh but also
z8ytg1T6IbM-01323-00299264-00299630 having informal uh conversations with um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01324-00299631-00299863 uh foreign delegates who again who have
z8ytg1T6IbM-01325-00299864-00300071 had experience in this to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01326-00300072-00300287 to put into place the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01327-00300288-00300534 best modalities that we we can think of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01328-00300535-00300775 to implement this new mechanism
z8ytg1T6IbM-01329-00300776-00300991 and and yes you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01330-00300992-00301351 you also mention a new provision
z8ytg1T6IbM-01331-00301352-00301582 that expanded the prerogatives of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01332-00301583-00301775 french authority that is responsible for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01333-00301776-00302006 managing seized or confiscated assets
z8ytg1T6IbM-01334-00302007-00302287 and it's the ag-ask
z8ytg1T6IbM-01335-00302288-00302615 and now the aggress can make available
z8ytg1T6IbM-01336-00302616-00302815 to associations foundations and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01337-00302816-00302958 organizations
z8ytg1T6IbM-01338-00302959-00303230 really state that it manages and that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01339-00303231-00303447 has been subject to a final confiscation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01340-00303448-00303567 decision
z8ytg1T6IbM-01341-00303568-00303823 um and there is a decree that is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01342-00303824-00304071 actually quite interesting that uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01343-00304072-00304271 determines the modalities of this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01344-00304272-00304527 mechanism and and it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01345-00304528-00304799 uh based on public procurement and the i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01346-00304800-00305087 guess decides based also on on public
z8ytg1T6IbM-01347-00305088-00305367 and general interest
z8ytg1T6IbM-01348-00305368-00305727 the way it it it will make um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01349-00305728-00305919 available real estate to these
z8ytg1T6IbM-01350-00305920-00306151 associations and foundations and i'll
z8ytg1T6IbM-01351-00306152-00306375 i'll i'll just uh say very quickly that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01352-00306376-00306454 it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01353-00306455-00306654 it is um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01354-00306655-00306943 uh i i don't want to say that it's it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01355-00306944-00307175 inspired but it's actually in a way
z8ytg1T6IbM-01356-00307176-00307567 inspired from uh an italian law uh on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01357-00307568-00307775 and i i think you you some of you may
z8ytg1T6IbM-01358-00307776-00308463 know this um uh that that was it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01359-00308464-00308663 and it's the idea of community
z8ytg1T6IbM-01360-00308664-00309006 restitution and it is applicable to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01361-00309007-00309263 corruption and a criminal organ
z8ytg1T6IbM-01362-00309264-00309406 organized crime
z8ytg1T6IbM-01363-00309407-00309534 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01364-00309535-00309919 offenses and and um i know that the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01365-00309920-00310158 french government has had discussions as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01366-00310159-00310527 well um with italian representatives on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01367-00310528-00310654 how to uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01368-00310655-00310958 uh to um yeah to take example on on what
z8ytg1T6IbM-01369-00310959-00311191 was done
z8ytg1T6IbM-01370-00311192-00311391 i think uh well i think it's very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01371-00311392-00311663 you'll watch this space um with regards
z8ytg1T6IbM-01372-00311664-00311847 to that to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01373-00311848-00312015 see how that see how that does actually
z8ytg1T6IbM-01374-00312016-00312319 play out but um it's it's good to hear
z8ytg1T6IbM-01375-00312320-00312503 uh caroline that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01376-00312504-00312679 whether regardless of where the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01377-00312680-00312910 inspiration came from that there is some
z8ytg1T6IbM-01378-00312911-00313182 progress there so um thank you very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01379-00313183-00313303 for that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01380-00313304-00313582 um our final panelist is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01381-00313583-00314015 juanita orlaya and welcome juanita and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01382-00314016-00314175 certainly you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01383-00314176-00314423 last but not least by any means at all
z8ytg1T6IbM-01384-00314424-00314695 and juanita has spent many years working
z8ytg1T6IbM-01385-00314696-00314975 on this subject she's a she's an
z8ytg1T6IbM-01386-00314976-00315263 activist a change maker
z8ytg1T6IbM-01387-00315264-00315519 she also founded and currently chairs
z8ytg1T6IbM-01388-00315520-00315767 the uncapped coalition's working group
z8ytg1T6IbM-01389-00315768-00316047 on victims of corruption um which is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01390-00316048-00316279 doing really fantastic work and i i can
z8ytg1T6IbM-01391-00316280-00316510 say in the asia pacific region because
z8ytg1T6IbM-01392-00316511-00316703 we're we've
z8ytg1T6IbM-01393-00316704-00316871 been part of some of that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01394-00316872-00317175 uh she's also you know tirelessly been
z8ytg1T6IbM-01395-00317176-00317382 raising the need for us to see and deal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01396-00317383-00317567 with the human rights violations and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01397-00317568-00317863 corruption nexus in an integrated way
z8ytg1T6IbM-01398-00317864-00318023 and that goes back to the point you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01399-00318024-00318247 anita was making earlier about you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01400-00318248-00318519 we just can't have this this uh a siloed
z8ytg1T6IbM-01401-00318520-00318710 approach to this any longer
z8ytg1T6IbM-01402-00318711-00318951 uh and uh she also has a private
z8ytg1T6IbM-01403-00318952-00319327 practice in berlin and uh is is also now
z8ytg1T6IbM-01404-00319328-00319582 really interested in in public private
z8ytg1T6IbM-01405-00319583-00319991 and civil society organizational change
z8ytg1T6IbM-01406-00319992-00320279 so i need to welcome and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01407-00320280-00320527 can you please tell us you know why you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01408-00320528-00320791 think it is just so important to repair
z8ytg1T6IbM-01409-00320792-00320999 the damaging impact of corruption and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01410-00321000-00321175 specifically foreign bribery which is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01411-00321176-00321327 what we're talking about
z8ytg1T6IbM-01412-00321328-00321510 although it's all connected you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01413-00321511-00321775 what happens if reparation doesn't take
z8ytg1T6IbM-01414-00321776-00322303 place
z8ytg1T6IbM-01415-00322304-00322503 just need to take yourself off mute
z8ytg1T6IbM-01416-00322504-00322927 you're still on mute juanita
z8ytg1T6IbM-01417-00322928-00323095 i have
z8ytg1T6IbM-01418-00323096-00323327 that's it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01419-00323328-00323606 no i think you're still on mute um no
z8ytg1T6IbM-01420-00323607-00323887 there we go now you're fine
z8ytg1T6IbM-01421-00323888-00324030 thank you serena and thank you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01422-00324031-00324263 transparency international for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01423-00324264-00324534 inviting me to this wonderful event
z8ytg1T6IbM-01424-00324535-00324671 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01425-00324672-00324991 what happens if reparation doesn't occur
z8ytg1T6IbM-01426-00324992-00325215 imagine if you had a leaking pipe at
z8ytg1T6IbM-01427-00325216-00325391 home
z8ytg1T6IbM-01428-00325392-00325703 or in your village or in your city
z8ytg1T6IbM-01429-00325704-00325806 and you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01430-00325807-00326079 left it out leaking licking water water
z8ytg1T6IbM-01431-00326080-00326382 that you need to drink to live to cook
z8ytg1T6IbM-01432-00326383-00326519 and instead of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01433-00326520-00326806 repairing it you went around finding the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01434-00326807-00327054 people who damaged it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01435-00327055-00327151 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01436-00327152-00327343 left the pipe to leak that's what
z8ytg1T6IbM-01437-00327344-00327463 happens
z8ytg1T6IbM-01438-00327464-00327671 when you don't repair the damage that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01439-00327672-00327854 corruption causes
z8ytg1T6IbM-01440-00327855-00328143 you leave the damage untouched you leave
z8ytg1T6IbM-01441-00328144-00328334 the damage perpetually
z8ytg1T6IbM-01442-00328335-00328606 affecting citizens of these
z8ytg1T6IbM-01443-00328607-00328847 cities of these villages of these houses
z8ytg1T6IbM-01444-00328848-00328991 of these countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-01445-00328992-00329239 suffering from what a few people did
z8ytg1T6IbM-01446-00329240-00329527 so when we're talking about reparation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01447-00329528-00329727 and we're talking about and addressing
z8ytg1T6IbM-01448-00329728-00329903 the victims of corruption we're talking
z8ytg1T6IbM-01449-00329904-00330158 about collective damages most of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01450-00330159-00330239 time
z8ytg1T6IbM-01451-00330240-00330543 these things that are hard to hard to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01452-00330544-00330830 hard to depict and to make material but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01453-00330831-00331039 that there but that you know they are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01454-00331040-00331295 there when they hurt when you don't have
z8ytg1T6IbM-01455-00331296-00331527 them when there's no trust in government
z8ytg1T6IbM-01456-00331528-00331743 when there's no when the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01457-00331744-00332015 basic human rights are violated when
z8ytg1T6IbM-01458-00332016-00332254 democracy doesn't work you know take the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01459-00332255-00332591 other other breath case that edison
z8ytg1T6IbM-01460-00332592-00332830 brings back to our memories
z8ytg1T6IbM-01461-00332831-00333134 that case was still not being repaired
z8ytg1T6IbM-01462-00333135-00333447 caused harm not only in mozambique but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01463-00333448-00333678 also in a lot of countries in about
z8ytg1T6IbM-01464-00333679-00333871 seven eight if not twelve other
z8ytg1T6IbM-01465-00333872-00333975 countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-01466-00333976-00334230 in latin america for example the other
z8ytg1T6IbM-01467-00334231-00334558 case disturbed entire judicial systems
z8ytg1T6IbM-01468-00334559-00334854 that were bended on their favor
z8ytg1T6IbM-01469-00334855-00335047 the other case
z8ytg1T6IbM-01470-00335048-00335263 then the entire
z8ytg1T6IbM-01471-00335264-00335567 financial political finance campaigns on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01472-00335568-00335767 their favor how many elections were
z8ytg1T6IbM-01473-00335768-00335958 blurred because of their intervention
z8ytg1T6IbM-01474-00335959-00336095 were affected because of their
z8ytg1T6IbM-01475-00336096-00336343 intervention how many key infrastructure
z8ytg1T6IbM-01476-00336344-00336478 projects were affected because of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01477-00336479-00336671 intervention so that's why i'm very
z8ytg1T6IbM-01478-00336672-00336863 adamant at
z8ytg1T6IbM-01479-00336864-00337110 putting forward and clearly the human
z8ytg1T6IbM-01480-00337111-00337327 rights impacts of corruption and i do
z8ytg1T6IbM-01481-00337328-00337558 agree with anita and underscore what she
z8ytg1T6IbM-01482-00337559-00337734 says about the need to integrate those
z8ytg1T6IbM-01483-00337735-00338039 agendas to to to connect them and to see
z8ytg1T6IbM-01484-00338040-00338247 them together because a company that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01485-00338248-00338534 bribes or that drives its way into a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01486-00338535-00338639 market
z8ytg1T6IbM-01487-00338640-00338958 is not compensating its human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-01488-00338959-00339278 it's creating additional impacts
z8ytg1T6IbM-01489-00339279-00339391 by its
z8ytg1T6IbM-01490-00339392-00339606 behavior so we cannot separate
z8ytg1T6IbM-01491-00339607-00339863 corruption of it as if it was a separate
z8ytg1T6IbM-01492-00339864-00340191 silo from other types of behavior just
z8ytg1T6IbM-01493-00340192-00340510 like avoiding taxes isn't as well
z8ytg1T6IbM-01494-00340511-00340591 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01495-00340592-00341039 i agree however and and i and i am i'm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01496-00341040-00341254 glad it's not the word but i'm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01497-00341255-00341582 relieved to hear about drago's sorrow
z8ytg1T6IbM-01498-00341583-00341847 on not on not having the recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01499-00341848-00342143 recognize the victims as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01500-00342144-00342351 upfront as it needs to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01501-00342352-00342575 but as others have also mentioned that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01502-00342576-00342782 talks more about the mental state of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01503-00342783-00343006 mind at the oecd and less about the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01504-00343007-00343295 actual frameworks at hand to use for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01505-00343296-00343471 reparation because the frameworks does
z8ytg1T6IbM-01506-00343472-00343710 it do exist just as caroline reminds us
z8ytg1T6IbM-01507-00343711-00344039 of the onca convention that very clearly
z8ytg1T6IbM-01508-00344040-00344271 talks about the need for reparation and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01509-00344272-00344391 the need for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01510-00344392-00344703 any sort of corporation and they need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01511-00344704-00344927 recognize the citizens role in that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01512-00344928-00345151 reparation and their right to demand for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01513-00345152-00345319 that reparation so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01514-00345320-00345519 the frameworks are there and also as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01515-00345520-00345687 anita mentions the business and human
z8ytg1T6IbM-01516-00345688-00345815 rights framework the universal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01517-00345816-00346047 declaration of human rights they are all
z8ytg1T6IbM-01518-00346048-00346439 very clear so while we can still live
z8ytg1T6IbM-01519-00346440-00346695 without the explicit mention in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01520-00346696-00346951 recommendations about victims of of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01521-00346952-00347078 corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01522-00347079-00347223 in the oecd
z8ytg1T6IbM-01523-00347224-00347358 recommendations
z8ytg1T6IbM-01524-00347359-00347727 we um we will continue to expect a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01525-00347728-00347934 reparation to happen because we cannot
z8ytg1T6IbM-01526-00347935-00348158 leave the pipes leaking
z8ytg1T6IbM-01527-00348159-00348375 however what happens is that despite the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01528-00348376-00348558 frameworks being there they're actually
z8ytg1T6IbM-01529-00348559-00348839 not being used as also sue
z8ytg1T6IbM-01530-00348840-00349087 mentions with very clear examples
z8ytg1T6IbM-01531-00349088-00349254 they're not very they're not being used
z8ytg1T6IbM-01532-00349255-00349430 on practical reasons
z8ytg1T6IbM-01533-00349431-00349695 because you know what you hear is oh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01534-00349696-00349910 it's hard to find the victims oh it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01535-00349911-00350047 hard to figure out a scheme of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01536-00350048-00350367 reparation that works oh um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01537-00350368-00350630 and citizens are not um are not being
z8ytg1T6IbM-01538-00350631-00350887 called to represent their interests in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01539-00350888-00351167 many countries uh which is possibly
z8ytg1T6IbM-01540-00351168-00351254 because
z8ytg1T6IbM-01541-00351255-00351495 it is the citizens it is the victims of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01542-00351496-00351751 corruption that know how reparation can
z8ytg1T6IbM-01543-00351752-00351999 take place that know what it feels not
z8ytg1T6IbM-01544-00352000-00352230 to trust their governments that knows
z8ytg1T6IbM-01545-00352231-00352319 which
z8ytg1T6IbM-01546-00352320-00352510 human rights have been violated through
z8ytg1T6IbM-01547-00352511-00352782 corruption so they should be involved
z8ytg1T6IbM-01548-00352783-00353015 not because it's nice to have them but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01549-00353016-00353287 because they are the best ones the best
z8ytg1T6IbM-01550-00353288-00353423 place
z8ytg1T6IbM-01551-00353424-00353743 to identify reparation and to enable it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01552-00353744-00353839 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01553-00353840-00354078 there's however a lot of hope just as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01554-00354079-00354303 carolyn
z8ytg1T6IbM-01555-00354304-00354543 indicated and i want to emphasize in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01556-00354544-00354758 amazing leadership that france has been
z8ytg1T6IbM-01557-00354759-00354919 having in this field
z8ytg1T6IbM-01558-00354920-00355119 not only by using the framework because
z8ytg1T6IbM-01559-00355120-00355334 as france has stepped up
z8ytg1T6IbM-01560-00355335-00355606 enforcement france has also have been
z8ytg1T6IbM-01561-00355607-00355878 stepping up their efforts uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01562-00355879-00356134 into addressing reparation to enabling
z8ytg1T6IbM-01563-00356135-00356310 that assets come back
z8ytg1T6IbM-01564-00356311-00356543 to the citizens and and are used for the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01565-00356544-00356782 benefit of citizens of the countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-01566-00356783-00357103 that are victims of of of that of those
z8ytg1T6IbM-01567-00357104-00357175 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01568-00357176-00357375 cases so and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01569-00357376-00357639 indeed as drago also says it's more
z8ytg1T6IbM-01570-00357640-00357815 about not wanting which is puzzling
z8ytg1T6IbM-01571-00357816-00358078 because we're living in a paradox world
z8ytg1T6IbM-01572-00358079-00358319 where we're claiming uh we're reclaiming
z8ytg1T6IbM-01573-00358320-00358471 the importance of things we're not
z8ytg1T6IbM-01574-00358472-00358719 willing to repair so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01575-00358720-00358951 how come we talk about the with grand
z8ytg1T6IbM-01576-00358952-00359223 words about democracy and the important
z8ytg1T6IbM-01577-00359224-00359454 the importance of democracy but failed
z8ytg1T6IbM-01578-00359455-00359734 to know how to repair it how can we talk
z8ytg1T6IbM-01579-00359735-00359991 grandly about the importance of trust
z8ytg1T6IbM-01580-00359992-00360199 trust in our societies but don't know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01581-00360200-00360367 how to build it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01582-00360368-00360654 so we have to we have to repair these
z8ytg1T6IbM-01583-00360655-00360887 pipes that are leaking
z8ytg1T6IbM-01584-00360888-00361030 thank you very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01585-00361031-00361182 okay
z8ytg1T6IbM-01586-00361183-00361463 juanita thank you um i mean i guess i
z8ytg1T6IbM-01587-00361464-00361647 mean you've made it really clear that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01588-00361648-00361895 you know the frameworks are there uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01589-00361896-00362230 reparation is just not happening um so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01590-00362231-00362558 is it as drago suggested is it is it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01591-00362559-00362871 political will um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01592-00362872-00363103 what is it why is it that uh it's not
z8ytg1T6IbM-01593-00363104-00363263 happening and more importantly i guess
z8ytg1T6IbM-01594-00363264-00363503 in in just a couple of minutes what's it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01595-00363504-00363751 going to take to move ahead
z8ytg1T6IbM-01596-00363752-00364071 on this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01597-00364072-00364351 it takes the carolines of this world
z8ytg1T6IbM-01598-00364352-00364551 it takes the many carolinas in this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01599-00364552-00364799 world it is less than political with
z8ytg1T6IbM-01600-00364800-00365158 will what is needed because i meet i see
z8ytg1T6IbM-01601-00365159-00365287 very often
z8ytg1T6IbM-01602-00365288-00365775 prosecutors judges lawyers companies
z8ytg1T6IbM-01603-00365776-00365999 company officials people working on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01604-00366000-00366206 sustainability issues that are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01605-00366207-00366406 determined to make this happen and those
z8ytg1T6IbM-01606-00366407-00366647 are the ones that make it possible and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01607-00366648-00366910 so it takes it just takes about someone
z8ytg1T6IbM-01608-00366911-00367215 really using the frameworks at hand
z8ytg1T6IbM-01609-00367216-00367454 so it doesn't need to wait for big legal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01610-00367455-00367854 reforms or for high-level politicians to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01611-00367855-00368063 to take decisions it really takes for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01612-00368064-00368295 the people with with their instruments
z8ytg1T6IbM-01613-00368296-00368527 that hand to make it work
z8ytg1T6IbM-01614-00368528-00368695 and it takes
z8ytg1T6IbM-01615-00368696-00368982 using the laws that are there to enable
z8ytg1T6IbM-01616-00368983-00369263 citizens to take part in this uh to take
z8ytg1T6IbM-01617-00369264-00369334 to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01618-00369335-00369519 to use their standing
z8ytg1T6IbM-01619-00369520-00369830 uh to use their voice to be involved and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01620-00369831-00370030 so it's very easy it actually i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-01621-00370031-00370223 it's more like a mental problem it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01622-00370224-00370510 like a mental change it's a small one
z8ytg1T6IbM-01623-00370511-00370734 it's not a big one most of the time it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01624-00370735-00370967 also becomes very clear for many people
z8ytg1T6IbM-01625-00370968-00371295 when it hits home so my my
z8ytg1T6IbM-01626-00371296-00371487 main recommendation is use the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01627-00371488-00371919 frameworks at hand
z8ytg1T6IbM-01628-00371920-00372030 great
z8ytg1T6IbM-01629-00372031-00372206 thank you um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01630-00372207-00372415 um well i wanted to thank you all this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01631-00372416-00372654 has been an incredibly rich discussion
z8ytg1T6IbM-01632-00372655-00372934 we're now going to move to a couple of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01633-00372935-00373206 questions that have been put in the uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01634-00373207-00373510 in the chat function and drago there's a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01635-00373511-00373630 question for you actually there's a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01636-00373631-00373839 couple of questions the first one drago
z8ytg1T6IbM-01637-00373840-00374039 for you is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01638-00374040-00374343 quite a contentious issue i think but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01639-00374344-00374502 the question is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01640-00374503-00374743 you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01641-00374744-00374951 should there be more emphasis by the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01642-00374952-00375295 oecd in the private sector to avoid
z8ytg1T6IbM-01643-00375296-00375630 regulatory arbitrage when it comes to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01644-00375631-00375958 bribery and it then suggests
z8ytg1T6IbM-01645-00375959-00376191 you know do we need an international
z8ytg1T6IbM-01646-00376192-00377406 anti-corruption court uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01647-00377407-00377527 has been
z8ytg1T6IbM-01648-00377528-00377871 widely debated and uh um you know i'm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01649-00377872-00378006 not sure that's what we need but i'm
z8ytg1T6IbM-01650-00378007-00378343 very interested to hear from you drago
z8ytg1T6IbM-01651-00378344-00378495 you know my
z8ytg1T6IbM-01652-00378496-00378671 my position this is very clear now we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01653-00378672-00378854 have enough for international rules we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01654-00378855-00379047 have enough uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01655-00379048-00379167 let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-01656-00379168-00379382 legal framework to do things we just
z8ytg1T6IbM-01657-00379383-00379534 have to do them
z8ytg1T6IbM-01658-00379535-00379806 the problem we which we face today is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01659-00379807-00380023 not only the air of compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01660-00380024-00380230 and uh i was saying thumbs up from your
z8ytg1T6IbM-01661-00380231-00380591 other panelists
z8ytg1T6IbM-01662-00380592-00380767 this does not only apply in the area of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01663-00380768-00381063 compensation of victims you see uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01664-00381064-00381254 juanita has said this is a small mental
z8ytg1T6IbM-01665-00381255-00381463 problem when we were discussing this uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01666-00381464-00381591 it was quite a big mental problem
z8ytg1T6IbM-01667-00381592-00381775 especially for me
z8ytg1T6IbM-01668-00381776-00381919 but you say i was so happy today to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01669-00381920-00382071 listen to caroline and i would like to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01670-00382072-00382247 say something else you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01671-00382248-00382430 i was bragging so much about this issue
z8ytg1T6IbM-01672-00382431-00382623 that i finally made some of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01673-00382624-00382871 countries uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01674-00382872-00383110 agreed that we will
z8ytg1T6IbM-01675-00383111-00383358 start a separate action
z8ytg1T6IbM-01676-00383359-00383519 on let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-01677-00383520-00383758 start develop something uh which would
z8ytg1T6IbM-01678-00383759-00384071 lead us to enhance uh possibilities for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01679-00384072-00384254 victims to be compensated and i really
z8ytg1T6IbM-01680-00384255-00384399 hope that i can count on caroline on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01681-00384400-00384527 this one
z8ytg1T6IbM-01682-00384528-00384743 uh because we are weak we are discussing
z8ytg1T6IbM-01683-00384744-00384887 the french reports i will i will
z8ytg1T6IbM-01684-00384888-00384991 immediately jump on the french
z8ytg1T6IbM-01685-00384992-00385151 delegation when they come in in half an
z8ytg1T6IbM-01686-00385152-00385406 hour or one hour
z8ytg1T6IbM-01687-00385407-00385654 and let's ask this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01688-00385655-00385887 the global enter corruption court
z8ytg1T6IbM-01689-00385888-00386175 yes unfortunately yes we are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01690-00386176-00386478 we see so many cases where let's say the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01691-00386479-00386710 top decision makers from many countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-01692-00386711-00386887 are not being brought to justice in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01693-00386888-00387087 their country simply because
z8ytg1T6IbM-01694-00387088-00387375 they the either the investigators or the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01695-00387376-00387534 prosecutor judges they do not feel
z8ytg1T6IbM-01696-00387535-00387719 strong enough to do it or they are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01697-00387720-00387910 simply not enabled to do it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01698-00387911-00388175 we have we have cases let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-01699-00388176-00388334 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01700-00388335-00388567 let's say when somebody from country a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01701-00388568-00388743 bribes somebody in country top
z8ytg1T6IbM-01702-00388744-00388910 politician country c through
z8ytg1T6IbM-01703-00388911-00389134 intermediary in country b
z8ytg1T6IbM-01704-00389135-00389406 when all the procedures are gone are
z8ytg1T6IbM-01705-00389407-00389623 done we have the following situation in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01706-00389624-00389839 country the church said this is not a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01707-00389840-00390071 bribery a country b intermediary is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01708-00390072-00390295 still sitting in jail in country three
z8ytg1T6IbM-01709-00390296-00390447 the top politician has been sentenced
z8ytg1T6IbM-01710-00390448-00390678 for corruption and released by by the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01711-00390679-00390878 constitutional court in a clearly
z8ytg1T6IbM-01712-00390879-00391110 political motivated decision
z8ytg1T6IbM-01713-00391111-00391199 so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01714-00391200-00391439 we have we still have impunity
z8ytg1T6IbM-01715-00391440-00391591 and as
z8ytg1T6IbM-01716-00391592-00391871 as much as i really hate to say this
z8ytg1T6IbM-01717-00391872-00392078 i don't see any other way then
z8ytg1T6IbM-01718-00392079-00392271 let's say to really to introduce the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01719-00392272-00392447 rule of law against everybody in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01720-00392448-00392630 world and when i see everybody i mean
z8ytg1T6IbM-01721-00392631-00392823 the top politicians because they say the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01722-00392824-00393047 loaf the small fish will always be fried
z8ytg1T6IbM-01723-00393048-00393271 in their nation in the countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-01724-00393272-00393367 then
z8ytg1T6IbM-01725-00393368-00393567 then we will have to get we'll have to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01726-00393568-00393743 need we'll need the anti-corruption
z8ytg1T6IbM-01727-00393744-00393943 court of course not all countries will
z8ytg1T6IbM-01728-00393944-00394078 join
z8ytg1T6IbM-01729-00394079-00394215 you have some countries which simply do
z8ytg1T6IbM-01730-00394216-00394367 not care about that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01731-00394368-00394639 but maybe the rest of the world will do
z8ytg1T6IbM-01732-00394640-00394791 and at least for those countries who
z8ytg1T6IbM-01733-00394792-00394895 will join
z8ytg1T6IbM-01734-00394896-00395134 we might we might bring in a bit more
z8ytg1T6IbM-01735-00395135-00395575 justice yesterday
z8ytg1T6IbM-01736-00395576-00395791 thank you for that there's there's also
z8ytg1T6IbM-01737-00395792-00395991 a follow-up question or or not a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01738-00395992-00396223 follow-up but a second question for you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01739-00396224-00396502 drago uh which i think is from my my
z8ytg1T6IbM-01740-00396503-00396775 colleague at t.i berlin um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01741-00396776-00396967 the question is you know what what can
z8ytg1T6IbM-01742-00396968-00397215 be done oh sorry juanita did you want to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01743-00397216-00397599 add something to that last question
z8ytg1T6IbM-01744-00397600-00397887 yes serena thank you just briefly on the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01745-00397888-00398278 on the international court uh idea
z8ytg1T6IbM-01746-00398279-00398495 i i think it's it's it's an interesting
z8ytg1T6IbM-01747-00398496-00398599 idea
z8ytg1T6IbM-01748-00398600-00398815 it would have been interesting
z8ytg1T6IbM-01749-00398816-00399078 30 years ago
z8ytg1T6IbM-01750-00399079-00399319 but it's not anymore it's not useful
z8ytg1T6IbM-01751-00399320-00399487 anymore because the problem we're having
z8ytg1T6IbM-01752-00399488-00399695 today
z8ytg1T6IbM-01753-00399696-00399999 is not is not be able to be an address
z8ytg1T6IbM-01754-00400000-00400167 by an international court that we will
z8ytg1T6IbM-01755-00400168-00400391 not be able to put together to work in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01756-00400392-00400654 the way we need it to work as drago says
z8ytg1T6IbM-01757-00400655-00400815 for the few cases of high level
z8ytg1T6IbM-01758-00400816-00401015 officials that are not being
z8ytg1T6IbM-01759-00401016-00401206 being put up to justice
z8ytg1T6IbM-01760-00401207-00401327 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01761-00401328-00401599 the problem of enforcement today
z8ytg1T6IbM-01762-00401600-00401847 remains national
z8ytg1T6IbM-01763-00401848-00402030 remains national and it needs to be
z8ytg1T6IbM-01764-00402031-00402239 addressed at the national level i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-01765-00402240-00402519 it's just a very romantic and appealing
z8ytg1T6IbM-01766-00402520-00402791 idea that but it i think it would
z8ytg1T6IbM-01767-00402792-00402982 distract create a lot of distraction
z8ytg1T6IbM-01768-00402983-00403230 from the real uh work at hand that we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01769-00403231-00403454 have which is strength national judicial
z8ytg1T6IbM-01770-00403455-00403830 systems
z8ytg1T6IbM-01771-00403831-00403991 well i couldn't agree more coming from
z8ytg1T6IbM-01772-00403992-00404143 australia where we have an enormous
z8ytg1T6IbM-01773-00404144-00404334 amount of work to do we don't even have
z8ytg1T6IbM-01774-00404335-00404727 a national uh uh integrity commission so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01775-00404728-00405078 uh i couldn't agree more and in fact an
z8ytg1T6IbM-01776-00405079-00405223 international anti-corruption court
z8ytg1T6IbM-01777-00405224-00405430 would perhaps be the perfect distraction
z8ytg1T6IbM-01778-00405431-00405734 from uh progress in australia so uh but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01779-00405735-00406015 uh i i may be sharing too much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01780-00406016-00406334 um uh drago there was uh another
z8ytg1T6IbM-01781-00406335-00406551 question for you um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01782-00406552-00406727 what can what can be done in countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-01783-00406728-00406951 like germany where
z8ytg1T6IbM-01784-00406952-00407127 you know the the protected legal
z8ytg1T6IbM-01785-00407128-00407367 interest is is you know often the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01786-00407368-00407630 integrity of office and so then it means
z8ytg1T6IbM-01787-00407631-00407839 that individual victims cannot be
z8ytg1T6IbM-01788-00407840-00408087 compensated and the question is you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01789-00408088-00408271 is the working group the oecd working
z8ytg1T6IbM-01790-00408272-00408734 group looking into this issue
z8ytg1T6IbM-01791-00408735-00408902 well
z8ytg1T6IbM-01792-00408903-00409087 i have to say the german is changing too
z8ytg1T6IbM-01793-00409088-00409206 you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01794-00409207-00409399 some 20 years ago let's say the roles
z8ytg1T6IbM-01795-00409400-00409551 which were protecting the let's say the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01796-00409552-00409726 legal interests of offices were much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01797-00409727-00409918 stricter than they are today
z8ytg1T6IbM-01798-00409919-00410055 so things are changing there to of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01799-00410056-00410263 course it doesn't go from what day one
z8ytg1T6IbM-01800-00410264-00410391 to day too
z8ytg1T6IbM-01801-00410392-00410622 but things are moving uh of course
z8ytg1T6IbM-01802-00410623-00410807 sometime will be needed but i would say
z8ytg1T6IbM-01803-00410808-00410926 in terms of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01804-00410927-00411055 the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01805-00411056-00411351 let's say of germans activities now our
z8ytg1T6IbM-01806-00411352-00411534 group we consider germany is one of our
z8ytg1T6IbM-01807-00411535-00411726 best member states
z8ytg1T6IbM-01808-00411727-00411863 it's not perfect of course because
z8ytg1T6IbM-01809-00411864-00412022 nobody's perfect but germany is doing
z8ytg1T6IbM-01810-00412023-00412199 quite well
z8ytg1T6IbM-01811-00412200-00412382 as soon as we will manage to push
z8ytg1T6IbM-01812-00412383-00412543 through with the standards let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-01813-00412543-00412774 also in this area in the oecd
z8ytg1T6IbM-01814-00412775-00412982 then of course germany will align
z8ytg1T6IbM-01815-00412983-00413126 i don't have any doubts on that the only
z8ytg1T6IbM-01816-00413127-00413270 problem is let's say we will have to be
z8ytg1T6IbM-01817-00413271-00413407 very clever
z8ytg1T6IbM-01818-00413408-00413582 we will have to find we will have to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01819-00413583-00413751 start thinking out of the box because we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01820-00413752-00413966 tried let's say to with the clear cut
z8ytg1T6IbM-01821-00413967-00414199 provision on compensation of victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-01822-00414200-00414351 which did not work
z8ytg1T6IbM-01823-00414352-00414551 so we will first of all have to collect
z8ytg1T6IbM-01824-00414552-00414734 all the forces in in the form of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01825-00414735-00414966 countries which have something in place
z8ytg1T6IbM-01826-00414967-00415126 which are doing it let's say like united
z8ytg1T6IbM-01827-00415127-00415303 kingdom or france
z8ytg1T6IbM-01828-00415304-00415382 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01829-00415383-00415518 some other countries which are really
z8ytg1T6IbM-01830-00415519-00415687 supporting this idea in the working
z8ytg1T6IbM-01831-00415688-00415830 group when we are discussing the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01832-00415831-00416030 recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01833-00416031-00416143 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01834-00416143-00416351 when we will form this group then
z8ytg1T6IbM-01835-00416352-00416639 maybe we'll get to to some ideas how to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01836-00416639-00416734 do it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01837-00416735-00416822 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01838-00416823-00417014 no it's very typical for german you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01839-00417015-00417222 germans germany was the last country in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01840-00417223-00417470 europe to ratify the uncut
z8ytg1T6IbM-01841-00417471-00417759 uh but when ranked was certified germany
z8ytg1T6IbM-01842-00417760-00417910 basically more or less implemented
z8ytg1T6IbM-01843-00417912-00418103 everything but in the convention
z8ytg1T6IbM-01844-00418104-00418263 so this is german style you know they
z8ytg1T6IbM-01845-00418264-00418439 first do it and then they
z8ytg1T6IbM-01846-00418439-00418663 ratify it we have plenty of countries we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01847-00418664-00418887 first certify the convention and they
z8ytg1T6IbM-01848-00418888-00419151 do it after 100 or 200 years
z8ytg1T6IbM-01849-00419152-00419230 so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01850-00419231-00419407 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01851-00419408-00419687 i would not see german as a big problem
z8ytg1T6IbM-01852-00419688-00419991 for sure they will be getting everywhere
z8ytg1T6IbM-01853-00419992-00420214 where the distance standards we lead
z8ytg1T6IbM-01854-00420215-00420575 them
z8ytg1T6IbM-01855-00420576-00420822 yeah thank you that's very interesting
z8ytg1T6IbM-01856-00420823-00421007 and i just wanted to thank
z8ytg1T6IbM-01857-00421008-00421239 anita she shared a link in the chat
z8ytg1T6IbM-01858-00421239-00421414 function on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01859-00421415-00421695 the report that the u.n working group on
z8ytg1T6IbM-01860-00421696-00421935 business and human rights um did and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01861-00421935-00422166 presented to the human rights council
z8ytg1T6IbM-01862-00422167-00422422 and this goes to this issue of uh very
z8ytg1T6IbM-01863-00422423-00422607 much you know joining the dots between
z8ytg1T6IbM-01864-00422608-00422814 the business and human rights aspects
z8ytg1T6IbM-01865-00422815-00423095 and the anti-corruption aspects and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01866-00423096-00423270 i just want to commend
z8ytg1T6IbM-01867-00423271-00423470 and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01868-00423471-00423614 everyone involved in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01869-00423615-00423831 report it's it's it's a it's a it's a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01870-00423832-00424159 it's a cracking good report so thank you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01871-00424160-00424470 um now uh and just encouraging the other
z8ytg1T6IbM-01872-00424471-00424670 participants if you have questions
z8ytg1T6IbM-01873-00424671-00424927 please do put them in the chat function
z8ytg1T6IbM-01874-00424928-00425247 i i actually did have a question and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01875-00425247-00425414 it really was something that came to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01876-00425415-00425839 mind uh as sue was speaking um and of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01877-00425839-00426127 course thinking about the uk's
z8ytg1T6IbM-01878-00426128-00426239 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01879-00426239-00426575 the sfo foreign bribery act which of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01880-00426576-00426918 course australia has um kind of picked
z8ytg1T6IbM-01881-00426919-00427175 up and uh and really modeled uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01882-00427176-00427431 amendments to our corporate crimes act
z8ytg1T6IbM-01883-00427432-00427703 on the problem is great work's been done
z8ytg1T6IbM-01884-00427704-00427951 by the attorney general's department
z8ytg1T6IbM-01885-00427952-00428207 um and we have now uh a draft draft
z8ytg1T6IbM-01886-00428208-00428439 amendment's very similar to the uk the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01887-00428439-00428718 problem is it's sat on somebody's in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01888-00428719-00428895 tray and hasn't been introduced to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01889-00428896-00429135 parliament for the last three years
z8ytg1T6IbM-01890-00429135-00429383 nonetheless i do just
z8ytg1T6IbM-01891-00429384-00429503 commend
z8ytg1T6IbM-01892-00429504-00429751 uh the the hard working staff at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01893-00429752-00429870 attorney general's department for
z8ytg1T6IbM-01894-00429871-00430047 progressing that but one thing that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01895-00430047-00430310 crossed my mind is if this legislation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01896-00430312-00430535 gets up in australia
z8ytg1T6IbM-01897-00430535-00430766 it's similar to the uk and the us in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01898-00430767-00431014 that it it will introduce a deferred
z8ytg1T6IbM-01899-00431015-00431283 prosecution agreement scheme a dpa
z8ytg1T6IbM-01900-00431284-00431583 scheme and my question to sue and to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01901-00431584-00431735 others is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01902-00431735-00431959 do you think
z8ytg1T6IbM-01903-00431960-00432175 there is a risk or
z8ytg1T6IbM-01904-00432176-00432407 in fact an opportunity
z8ytg1T6IbM-01905-00432408-00432518 that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01906-00432519-00432814 victims of foreign bribery are likely to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01907-00432815-00433135 have a better chance of compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01908-00433135-00433366 under a dpa scheme
z8ytg1T6IbM-01909-00433367-00433503 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01910-00433504-00433759 or in fact will that potentially you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01911-00433760-00433847 know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01912-00433847-00434127 let the companies off the hook and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01913-00434128-00434414 uh make the chances of compensation even
z8ytg1T6IbM-01914-00434415-00434614 harder and i guess i'm thinking about
z8ytg1T6IbM-01915-00434615-00434895 what you were saying so about you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01916-00434896-00435055 the criminal process and the court
z8ytg1T6IbM-01917-00435056-00435231 process and how long it goes on but it
z8ytg1T6IbM-01918-00435232-00435575 just struck me and uh i see one need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01919-00435576-00435847 have a view on this as well so dpa is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01920-00435847-00436127 good or not so good for uh victims of
z8ytg1T6IbM-01921-00436128-00436439 foreign bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-01922-00436439-00436663 perhaps and then juanita and if anyone
z8ytg1T6IbM-01923-00436664-00436831 else wants to comment
z8ytg1T6IbM-01924-00436832-00437070 very very pertinent very good question
z8ytg1T6IbM-01925-00437071-00437214 uh serena
z8ytg1T6IbM-01926-00437215-00437543 in an ideal world um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01927-00437543-00437687 there would be community impact
z8ytg1T6IbM-01928-00437688-00437895 statements put to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01929-00437896-00438143 any court that is overseeing a dpa so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01930-00438143-00438318 you would have a third voice because at
z8ytg1T6IbM-01931-00438319-00438583 the moment dpas are very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-01932-00438584-00438718 company
z8ytg1T6IbM-01933-00438719-00439014 and uh the prosecutor negotiating behind
z8ytg1T6IbM-01934-00439015-00439247 closed doors even where it's approved by
z8ytg1T6IbM-01935-00439247-00439439 a court you know they go to the court
z8ytg1T6IbM-01936-00439439-00439639 and i mean what we've seen in the uk is
z8ytg1T6IbM-01937-00439639-00439855 a bit of rubber stamping frankly
z8ytg1T6IbM-01938-00439856-00440087 uh you know so i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-01939-00440088-00440303 we would have to work very hard as civil
z8ytg1T6IbM-01940-00440304-00440599 society to bring that about but you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01941-00440600-00440759 lots of lawyers we've spoken to in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-01942-00440760-00440855 uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-01943-00440856-00441055 uh context think there really is a case
z8ytg1T6IbM-01944-00441056-00441255 for third parties to be able to put
z8ytg1T6IbM-01945-00441256-00441414 representations
z8ytg1T6IbM-01946-00441415-00441735 um to break this kind of cozy um link
z8ytg1T6IbM-01947-00441735-00441935 but i think um
z8ytg1T6IbM-01948-00441935-00442070 you know it's a really really
z8ytg1T6IbM-01949-00442071-00442222 interesting question because the other
z8ytg1T6IbM-01950-00442223-00442455 thing that you get with dps is you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-01951-00442456-00442783 in court certainly in the uk victims do
z8ytg1T6IbM-01952-00442784-00443039 have a space it's sentencing to come
z8ytg1T6IbM-01953-00443039-00443270 and say you know this they give an
z8ytg1T6IbM-01954-00443271-00443503 impact statement and there is no
z8ytg1T6IbM-01955-00443504-00443791 mechanism in dpas for that so if you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01956-00443792-00444118 could find the victims uh in the uk you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01957-00444119-00444287 know to present to the court they would
z8ytg1T6IbM-01958-00444288-00444518 get more of their day in court if it's a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01959-00444519-00444751 criminal case a dpa
z8ytg1T6IbM-01960-00444752-00444943 but i think that's really important work
z8ytg1T6IbM-01961-00444943-00445055 to be done
z8ytg1T6IbM-01962-00445056-00445270 um i mean the uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-01963-00445271-00445455 regime does have compensation
z8ytg1T6IbM-01964-00445456-00445655 specifically as one of the things that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01965-00445656-00445918 must happen for a company
z8ytg1T6IbM-01966-00445919-00446183 to get a dpa and i think that's good
z8ytg1T6IbM-01967-00446184-00446414 practice the fact it hasn't happened you
z8ytg1T6IbM-01968-00446415-00446631 know has been very disappointing we
z8ytg1T6IbM-01969-00446632-00446831 would like to see a lot more of it but
z8ytg1T6IbM-01970-00446832-00447022 it is there in the law so i would
z8ytg1T6IbM-01971-00447023-00447255 definitely say if anyone is in that
z8ytg1T6IbM-01972-00447256-00447479 situation where a country is putting in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01973-00447480-00447743 uh place new laws about dpas to make
z8ytg1T6IbM-01974-00447743-00448022 sure that it is modeled on the uk
z8ytg1T6IbM-01975-00448023-00448407 in so far as the compensation provisions
z8ytg1T6IbM-01976-00448408-00448607 [Music]
z8ytg1T6IbM-01977-00448608-00448735 thank you for that that's very helpful
z8ytg1T6IbM-01978-00448735-00448903 i'll certainly be taking that on board
z8ytg1T6IbM-01979-00448904-00449039 when uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-01980-00449039-00449303 we see where this gets to um we need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01981-00449304-00449495 if you could just add your comment for a
z8ytg1T6IbM-01982-00449496-00449670 minute or two and then there's a final
z8ytg1T6IbM-01983-00449671-00449903 question i think for uh caroline and
z8ytg1T6IbM-01984-00449904-00450127 then we'll do a wrap-up
z8ytg1T6IbM-01985-00450128-00450343 other than underlining each words who
z8ytg1T6IbM-01986-00450343-00450583 just said
z8ytg1T6IbM-01987-00450584-00450751 we need to remind ourselves that about
z8ytg1T6IbM-01988-00450752-00450951 80 percent of current enforcement
z8ytg1T6IbM-01989-00450952-00451175 happens through out-of-court agreements
z8ytg1T6IbM-01990-00451176-00451375 as a report that published by the us
z8ytg1T6IbM-01991-00451376-00451647 oecd a few years ago
z8ytg1T6IbM-01992-00451647-00451839 confirmed so
z8ytg1T6IbM-01993-00451839-00452127 it is an incredible opportunity to
z8ytg1T6IbM-01994-00452128-00452222 address
z8ytg1T6IbM-01995-00452223-00452447 corruption reparation and i emphasize
z8ytg1T6IbM-01996-00452447-00452710 reparation because compensation in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01997-00452712-00452943 in in in
z8ytg1T6IbM-01998-00452943-00453183 roman law countries has has a different
z8ytg1T6IbM-01999-00453184-00453479 connotation um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02000-00453480-00453663 it is important to involve people's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02001-00453664-00453879 voices and citizens voices in that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02002-00453880-00454031 negotiation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02003-00454032-00454279 and and of course
z8ytg1T6IbM-02004-00454280-00454559 the the the trick lies in
z8ytg1T6IbM-02005-00454560-00454759 you know how to how to open up those
z8ytg1T6IbM-02006-00454760-00454966 procedures so that citizen's voice can
z8ytg1T6IbM-02007-00454967-00455039 be
z8ytg1T6IbM-02008-00455039-00455239 brought in i think sue's recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02009-00455239-00455479 of bringing at least impact assessments
z8ytg1T6IbM-02010-00455480-00455551 is
z8ytg1T6IbM-02011-00455552-00455735 is really important and really needs to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02012-00455735-00455918 be heard of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02013-00455919-00456014 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02014-00456015-00456207 but there's also another issue is that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02015-00456208-00456510 some jurisdictions have a practice of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02016-00456512-00456695 giving too much voice to the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02017-00456696-00456935 perpetrators in those agreements far
z8ytg1T6IbM-02018-00456935-00457070 much more than the victims the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02019-00457071-00457407 perpetrators end up having a say in the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02020-00457408-00457655 destination of the assets that are
z8ytg1T6IbM-02021-00457656-00457863 involved or in the fines
z8ytg1T6IbM-02022-00457864-00458143 in the use of those of the of the funds
z8ytg1T6IbM-02023-00458143-00458407 and i think that that is questionable
z8ytg1T6IbM-02024-00458408-00458647 because that has stopped a and that has
z8ytg1T6IbM-02025-00458647-00458918 made difficult in in in important cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-02026-00458919-00459159 like in the case of obiang in the u.s
z8ytg1T6IbM-02027-00459160-00459463 the actual delivery and late delivery of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02028-00459464-00459631 of the funds for the benefit of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02029-00459632-00459927 citizens so it is important to be aware
z8ytg1T6IbM-02030-00459928-00460175 of sufficient transparency practices of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02031-00460176-00460407 involvement of citizens voices
z8ytg1T6IbM-02032-00460408-00460799 and and also of not the of uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02033-00460800-00460991 taking care of the balance of how much
z8ytg1T6IbM-02034-00460992-00461183 power and voice the perpetrators
z8ytg1T6IbM-02035-00461184-00461399 vis-a-vis the victims have
z8ytg1T6IbM-02036-00461400-00461575 in those agreements it's a matter of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02037-00461576-00461895 rule of law um and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02038-00461896-00462151 just just just to just to make sure it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02039-00462152-00462414 a it's a really a good opportunity and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02040-00462415-00462591 we need to make it in ways that also
z8ytg1T6IbM-02041-00462592-00462870 doesn't make prosecutors lives much more
z8ytg1T6IbM-02042-00462871-00462999 difficult
z8ytg1T6IbM-02043-00463000-00463303 which is also a fear some of they have
z8ytg1T6IbM-02044-00463304-00463503 it doesn't have to be more complicated
z8ytg1T6IbM-02045-00463504-00463766 it actually can be much easier and i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02046-00463767-00464007 would quote the examples we have lived
z8ytg1T6IbM-02047-00464008-00464110 where
z8ytg1T6IbM-02048-00464112-00464383 dpas have been delayed or have been made
z8ytg1T6IbM-02049-00464384-00464607 complicated because of the absence of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02050-00464608-00464735 that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02051-00464735-00464935 yeah great no thank you that's that's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02052-00464935-00465047 extremely
z8ytg1T6IbM-02053-00465047-00465270 helpful um carolyn there's there's a
z8ytg1T6IbM-02054-00465271-00465495 question for you it has many parts so
z8ytg1T6IbM-02055-00465496-00465639 i'll let you just choose which
z8ytg1T6IbM-02056-00465639-00465814 particular part you want to answer
z8ytg1T6IbM-02057-00465815-00465991 because we've we've literally got two
z8ytg1T6IbM-02058-00465992-00466279 minutes but um it's it's really about
z8ytg1T6IbM-02059-00466280-00466495 the french mechanism giving ngos
z8ytg1T6IbM-02060-00466496-00466695 standing to file complaints on behalf of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02061-00466696-00466951 victims and the suggestion is it's you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02062-00466952-00467110 know it's one thing to put in place the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02063-00467112-00467366 legal procedures to enable that but
z8ytg1T6IbM-02064-00467367-00467591 what's the experience being so far and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02065-00467592-00467903 ensuring inclusive participation by
z8ytg1T6IbM-02066-00467904-00468127 victims and you know have there been any
z8ytg1T6IbM-02067-00468128-00468366 standout lessons about you know which
z8ytg1T6IbM-02068-00468367-00468703 ngos are giving given um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02069-00468704-00468918 standing in court to speak on behalf of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02070-00468919-00469255 victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-02071-00469256-00469422 so i guess it's really a question around
z8ytg1T6IbM-02072-00469423-00469743 you know are ngos really best place to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02073-00469743-00469959 to speak on behalf and provide that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02074-00469960-00470127 voice to victims and what have you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02075-00470128-00470279 learned from that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02076-00470280-00470663 sure um i do think we have uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02077-00470664-00470959 uh extensive or actually material
z8ytg1T6IbM-02078-00470960-00471391 experience in in ngos uh bringing cases
z8ytg1T6IbM-02079-00471392-00471679 to light uh or it to justice
z8ytg1T6IbM-02080-00471680-00472063 uh by by uh being the authors of of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02081-00472064-00472327 criminal complaints um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02082-00472328-00472535 i'm sorry i was uh caught up in your
z8ytg1T6IbM-02083-00472535-00472687 question and then i was caught up in my
z8ytg1T6IbM-02084-00472688-00472927 answer and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02085-00472928-00473191 and i'm not sure i'll be very precise on
z8ytg1T6IbM-02086-00473192-00473455 on answering the question it's it
z8ytg1T6IbM-02087-00473456-00473799 was the question is are ngu's best place
z8ytg1T6IbM-02088-00473800-00474039 to uh yeah i think it's it's really i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02089-00474039-00474303 think it's really a question is um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02090-00474304-00474487 you know what lessons have been learned
z8ytg1T6IbM-02091-00474488-00474783 about which ngos are given standing in
z8ytg1T6IbM-02092-00474784-00475031 court to speak on behalf so i guess
z8ytg1T6IbM-02093-00475032-00475263 maybe sitting behind that is is it only
z8ytg1T6IbM-02094-00475264-00475510 the big international i ngos who get to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02095-00475512-00475766 do that or are there others or what have
z8ytg1T6IbM-02096-00475767-00476110 been some of those learnings well uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02097-00476112-00476510 not everyone it's it's based on um um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02098-00476512-00476647 i don't know how to say that in english
z8ytg1T6IbM-02099-00476647-00476870 actually i'm i'm and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02100-00476871-00477222 uh thinking while i'm speaking but it um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02101-00477224-00477335 [Music]
z8ytg1T6IbM-02102-00477335-00477718 it is based on on not every ngo can can
z8ytg1T6IbM-02103-00477719-00477951 bring corruption cases before criminal
z8ytg1T6IbM-02104-00477952-00478303 courts it depends on obviously uh the uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02105-00478304-00478543 interests that are defended by the civil
z8ytg1T6IbM-02106-00478543-00478822 society organizations so talking about
z8ytg1T6IbM-02107-00478823-00478951 corruption i'm thinking about
z8ytg1T6IbM-02108-00478952-00479118 transparency international i'm thinking
z8ytg1T6IbM-02109-00479119-00479359 about chapa i'm thinking about antico
z8ytg1T6IbM-02110-00479360-00479647 and and i i i'm sure that some of you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02111-00479647-00479831 know uh that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02112-00479832-00480103 there was some uh contentious and debate
z8ytg1T6IbM-02113-00480104-00480255 about
z8ytg1T6IbM-02114-00480256-00480487 whether the government was providing
z8ytg1T6IbM-02115-00480488-00480822 adequate uh uh relevant authorizations
z8ytg1T6IbM-02116-00480823-00481014 to ngos to to bring those criminal
z8ytg1T6IbM-02117-00481015-00481255 complaints so technically speaking uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02118-00481256-00481559 those ngos one must be defending
z8ytg1T6IbM-02119-00481560-00481855 defending the interest
z8ytg1T6IbM-02120-00481856-00482183 at heart um and two yes they they have
z8ytg1T6IbM-02121-00482184-00482622 to have um uh for like a better word an
z8ytg1T6IbM-02122-00482623-00482775 authorization
z8ytg1T6IbM-02123-00482776-00483127 that is delivered on a periodic basis uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02124-00483128-00483535 to to have this legal standing um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02125-00483535-00483718 i again like i i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02126-00483719-00483918 and i i think i would be happy to to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02127-00483919-00484143 discuss it further with a transparency
z8ytg1T6IbM-02128-00484143-00484455 international france that has some very
z8ytg1T6IbM-02129-00484456-00484695 relevant experience in in bringing those
z8ytg1T6IbM-02130-00484696-00485118 cases and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02131-00485119-00485310 i think what's important also to mention
z8ytg1T6IbM-02132-00485312-00485559 in this mechanism it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02133-00485560-00485910 it's not only that we authorize it it's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02134-00485912-00486287 that it's put into law it's literally
z8ytg1T6IbM-02135-00486288-00486535 in the criminal uh procedure code
z8ytg1T6IbM-02136-00486535-00486735 or is it the criminal code but it so
z8ytg1T6IbM-02137-00486735-00486959 it's it's yeah
z8ytg1T6IbM-02138-00486960-00487110 i think that's a very important point
z8ytg1T6IbM-02139-00487112-00487351 you make because uh having it in law
z8ytg1T6IbM-02140-00487352-00487622 then means that it's not at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02141-00487623-00487743 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02142-00487743-00487870 the the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02143-00487871-00488070 the whim or the approval of whoever
z8ytg1T6IbM-02144-00488071-00488191 happens to be in power at that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02145-00488192-00488391 particular time
z8ytg1T6IbM-02146-00488392-00488703 all right well we we are um at the end
z8ytg1T6IbM-02147-00488704-00489070 of our session so i'm going to um just
z8ytg1T6IbM-02148-00489071-00489407 ask each of each of our panelists to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02149-00489408-00489559 close with
z8ytg1T6IbM-02150-00489560-00489791 one recommendation if it was a perfect
z8ytg1T6IbM-02151-00489792-00490047 world you could have one recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02152-00490047-00490287 um to progress to progress enforcement
z8ytg1T6IbM-02153-00490288-00490543 of foreign bribery and victims rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-02154-00490543-00490783 what would that be and i i apologize
z8ytg1T6IbM-02155-00490784-00490959 it's you know one recommendation one
z8ytg1T6IbM-02156-00490960-00491239 minute to kind of get it out there so um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02157-00491239-00491695 anita i might go first to you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02158-00491696-00491870 great thank you very briefly i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-02159-00491871-00492055 back to what i was focusing on which is
z8ytg1T6IbM-02160-00492056-00492270 the promise of regulation in the area of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02161-00492271-00492470 human rights due diligence if we do it
z8ytg1T6IbM-02162-00492471-00492679 well and it includes a provision for
z8ytg1T6IbM-02163-00492680-00492903 civil liability then back to juanita's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02164-00492904-00493087 point weak rule of law places where
z8ytg1T6IbM-02165-00493088-00493239 there's weak governance and weak
z8ytg1T6IbM-02166-00493239-00493503 democracy or lack of it using this as a
z8ytg1T6IbM-02167-00493504-00493622 mechanism
z8ytg1T6IbM-02168-00493623-00493847 will be victims will be able to address
z8ytg1T6IbM-02169-00493847-00494007 the fact that there is corruption as
z8ytg1T6IbM-02170-00494008-00494207 well as human rights abuses i'd also
z8ytg1T6IbM-02171-00494208-00494422 just say that the oecd national contact
z8ytg1T6IbM-02172-00494423-00494607 point system is another non-judicial
z8ytg1T6IbM-02173-00494608-00494847 remedy mechanism where you can again
z8ytg1T6IbM-02174-00494847-00495055 look at corruption and human rights hand
z8ytg1T6IbM-02175-00495056-00495455 in hand when when people seek remedy
z8ytg1T6IbM-02176-00495456-00495683 great thank you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02177-00495684-00496039 um drago what would your recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02178-00496039-00496270 be clearly not an international criminal
z8ytg1T6IbM-02179-00496271-00496455 court i don't think but
z8ytg1T6IbM-02180-00496456-00496631 or corruption anti-corruption court but
z8ytg1T6IbM-02181-00496632-00496855 what would you suggest
z8ytg1T6IbM-02182-00496856-00497083 they would suggest that we
z8ytg1T6IbM-02183-00497084-00497447 simply strictly enforce the provisions
z8ytg1T6IbM-02184-00497447-00497631 of the legislations which are asking for
z8ytg1T6IbM-02185-00497632-00497895 confiscation of process of bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-02186-00497896-00498087 domestic or foreign one
z8ytg1T6IbM-02187-00498088-00498414 that we and that we really strictly
z8ytg1T6IbM-02188-00498415-00498647 take into account the rights of victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-02189-00498647-00498918 when deciding on what to do with the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02190-00498919-00499143 confiscated process
z8ytg1T6IbM-02191-00499143-00499335 and here i have to say that uh let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-02192-00499335-00499487 in the oasis
z8ytg1T6IbM-02193-00499488-00499727 bribery we call the dps and mps
z8ytg1T6IbM-02194-00499728-00499918 non-trial solutions i would have to say
z8ytg1T6IbM-02195-00499919-00500110 that i see
z8ytg1T6IbM-02196-00500112-00500399 much better chances that we make a
z8ytg1T6IbM-02197-00500400-00500622 really important breakthrough in this
z8ytg1T6IbM-02198-00500623-00500710 area
z8ytg1T6IbM-02199-00500712-00500975 than in the typical court decisions
z8ytg1T6IbM-02200-00500976-00501222 because what we saw until now is that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02201-00501223-00501479 let's say countries work with each other
z8ytg1T6IbM-02202-00501480-00501710 much better in when they discuss the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02203-00501712-00501862 ntrs
z8ytg1T6IbM-02204-00501863-00502143 uh this also goes also let's say
z8ytg1T6IbM-02205-00502143-00502270 reflects in the cooperation of the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02206-00502271-00502559 companies which are basically suspects
z8ytg1T6IbM-02207-00502560-00502710 and i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02208-00502712-00502910 think that this would be an ideal let's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02209-00502912-00503079 say terrain
z8ytg1T6IbM-02210-00503080-00503366 to check some of the ideas also in
z8ytg1T6IbM-02211-00503367-00503766 compensating the victims
z8ytg1T6IbM-02212-00503767-00504055 no thank you very very interesting
z8ytg1T6IbM-02213-00504056-00504135 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02214-00504135-00504399 juanita you you you got quite excited
z8ytg1T6IbM-02215-00504400-00504607 before and i think spilled the beans a
z8ytg1T6IbM-02216-00504608-00504807 little bit on your recommendation you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02217-00504808-00505022 suggested use the frameworks we have but
z8ytg1T6IbM-02218-00505023-00505239 is there uh something else you would
z8ytg1T6IbM-02219-00505239-00505575 like to add as a recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02220-00505576-00505710 so you get kind of two fights at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02221-00505712-00506175 cherry
z8ytg1T6IbM-02222-00506176-00506503 eh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02223-00506504-00506727 yes i would i would i would also add
z8ytg1T6IbM-02224-00506728-00506935 another suggestion reparation is also
z8ytg1T6IbM-02225-00506935-00507175 possible out of court
z8ytg1T6IbM-02226-00507176-00507383 governments decided and companies
z8ytg1T6IbM-02227-00507384-00507614 decided to repair the damage that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02228-00507615-00507799 corruption has happened doesn't need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02229-00507800-00508127 wait for the responsible ones to be
z8ytg1T6IbM-02230-00508128-00508351 found and to be identified
z8ytg1T6IbM-02231-00508352-00508543 repairing the damages of corruption as
z8ytg1T6IbM-02232-00508543-00508703 they happen just as
z8ytg1T6IbM-02233-00508704-00508966 as mitigating the damages
z8ytg1T6IbM-02234-00508967-00509135 the human rights and the environmental
z8ytg1T6IbM-02235-00509135-00509247 impacts
z8ytg1T6IbM-02236-00509247-00509439 that we humans make in our surrounding
z8ytg1T6IbM-02237-00509439-00509687 will make our lives better so we can do
z8ytg1T6IbM-02238-00509688-00509839 it without trials
z8ytg1T6IbM-02239-00509839-00510303 we should do it now
z8ytg1T6IbM-02240-00510304-00510662 do it now very good uh and uh sue if i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02241-00510663-00510935 can if i can jump to you for your for
z8ytg1T6IbM-02242-00510935-00511270 your hot recommendation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02243-00511271-00511470 uh so my whole recommendation is that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02244-00511471-00511695 drago
z8ytg1T6IbM-02245-00511696-00511831 is um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02246-00511832-00512062 you drago for this one
z8ytg1T6IbM-02247-00512063-00512327 uh with your community of the willing in
z8ytg1T6IbM-02248-00512328-00512518 the working group on bribery
z8ytg1T6IbM-02249-00512519-00512870 uh create a pilot project uh for
z8ytg1T6IbM-02250-00512871-00513175 uh some willing countries
z8ytg1T6IbM-02251-00513176-00513455 to commit to doing a proper impact
z8ytg1T6IbM-02252-00513456-00513575 assessment
z8ytg1T6IbM-02253-00513576-00513855 of the harm of bribery including
z8ytg1T6IbM-02254-00513856-00514255 multiple stakeholders experts local ngos
z8ytg1T6IbM-02255-00514256-00514414 ings
z8ytg1T6IbM-02256-00514415-00514735 on some specific dpas coming up how
z8ytg1T6IbM-02257-00514735-00514903 about that
z8ytg1T6IbM-02258-00514904-00515214 it's possible drago
z8ytg1T6IbM-02259-00515215-00515351 well thank you for putting so much
z8ytg1T6IbM-02260-00515352-00515647 responsibility for me on me you know
z8ytg1T6IbM-02261-00515647-00515766 uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02262-00515767-00515935 i'm running a bit out of time because
z8ytg1T6IbM-02263-00515935-00516103 it'll be only one year more since i'll
z8ytg1T6IbM-02264-00516104-00516255 be sitting here
z8ytg1T6IbM-02265-00516256-00516455 uh but i'll do my best that i can
z8ytg1T6IbM-02266-00516456-00516799 promise
z8ytg1T6IbM-02267-00516800-00516959 you drago i think all of us have
z8ytg1T6IbM-02268-00516960-00517183 confidence in you absolutely to do your
z8ytg1T6IbM-02269-00517184-00517407 best and uh we know you can get things
z8ytg1T6IbM-02270-00517408-00517607 done even in even in a year there's
z8ytg1T6IbM-02271-00517608-00517895 progress can be made so thank you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02272-00517896-00518422 um and caroline now over to you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02273-00518423-00518622 well it's a bit harder to make a
z8ytg1T6IbM-02274-00518623-00518783 recommendation from a government
z8ytg1T6IbM-02275-00518784-00518927 standpoint
z8ytg1T6IbM-02276-00518928-00519118 because am i making a recommendation to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02277-00519119-00519407 myself or to my government
z8ytg1T6IbM-02278-00519408-00519670 to everyone else i'll i'll just uh i i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02279-00519671-00519910 won't be very original i'll i'll just uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02280-00519912-00520079 relay uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02281-00520080-00520231 some things that have been previously
z8ytg1T6IbM-02282-00520232-00520455 said including juanita that i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02283-00520456-00520775 that we very much agree with is to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02284-00520776-00520918 better implement
z8ytg1T6IbM-02285-00520919-00521175 the framework in general but we talked
z8ytg1T6IbM-02286-00521176-00521479 about the uncac we have discussed about
z8ytg1T6IbM-02287-00521480-00521766 what can be done under the oecd uh but
z8ytg1T6IbM-02288-00521767-00522095 sue mentioned the g5 principles and and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02289-00522096-00522391 you also have the some g20 principles on
z8ytg1T6IbM-02290-00522392-00522655 on asset recovery in return and and i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02291-00522656-00522895 think my main point would be and this is
z8ytg1T6IbM-02292-00522896-00523095 a position that we have in international
z8ytg1T6IbM-02293-00523096-00523310 flora is
z8ytg1T6IbM-02294-00523312-00523470 to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02295-00523471-00523718 have mechanisms in place or it is to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02296-00523719-00524014 ensure that is that there is adequate
z8ytg1T6IbM-02297-00524015-00524335 and effective implementation of the many
z8ytg1T6IbM-02298-00524336-00524518 many principles and international
z8ytg1T6IbM-02299-00524519-00524687 provisions that exist
z8ytg1T6IbM-02300-00524688-00524839 uh to to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02301-00524840-00525047 take into account uh and into
z8ytg1T6IbM-02302-00525048-00525270 consideration victims in their uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02303-00525271-00525551 conversation
z8ytg1T6IbM-02304-00525552-00525807 thank you well well thank you all very
z8ytg1T6IbM-02305-00525808-00526231 much and um and and my thanks to to uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02306-00526232-00526447 those who've joined us i mean i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-02307-00526448-00526695 it's been a really rich discussion today
z8ytg1T6IbM-02308-00526696-00526791 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02309-00526792-00527047 clearly there is much to be done but i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02310-00527048-00527318 think there we've heard both sides of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02311-00527319-00527414 the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02312-00527415-00527662 the gloom and doom but also where there
z8ytg1T6IbM-02313-00527663-00527887 is some hope and and opportunities for
z8ytg1T6IbM-02314-00527888-00528047 the future and i think
z8ytg1T6IbM-02315-00528048-00528247 what really struck me is we we really
z8ytg1T6IbM-02316-00528248-00528535 need to keep our focus on on the fact
z8ytg1T6IbM-02317-00528536-00528711 that um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02318-00528712-00528943 you know that bribery is not a faceless
z8ytg1T6IbM-02319-00528944-00529143 crime you know we need to keep our focus
z8ytg1T6IbM-02320-00529144-00529343 on on the impact that bribery and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02321-00529344-00529551 corruption has on on the lives and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02322-00529552-00529743 livelihoods of communities and the most
z8ytg1T6IbM-02323-00529744-00530007 most marginalized and as as we've heard
z8ytg1T6IbM-02324-00530008-00530231 from juanita you know how do we continue
z8ytg1T6IbM-02325-00530232-00530439 to ensure that those that are directly
z8ytg1T6IbM-02326-00530440-00530679 impacted do have a seat of the at the
z8ytg1T6IbM-02327-00530680-00530887 table
z8ytg1T6IbM-02328-00530888-00531111 discussions and decisions around what
z8ytg1T6IbM-02329-00531112-00531255 needs to be done
z8ytg1T6IbM-02330-00531256-00531359 um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02331-00531360-00531614 we know from our own research at ti we
z8ytg1T6IbM-02332-00531615-00531887 we need to keep our pedal to the floor
z8ytg1T6IbM-02333-00531888-00532127 in keeping the pressure up on uh
z8ytg1T6IbM-02334-00532128-00532255 enforcement
z8ytg1T6IbM-02335-00532256-00532551 and we must you know continue as we
z8ytg1T6IbM-02336-00532552-00532831 heard from from anita and others
z8ytg1T6IbM-02337-00532832-00533135 to make sure that we're we're really
z8ytg1T6IbM-02338-00533136-00533391 narrowing this uh understanding or
z8ytg1T6IbM-02339-00533392-00533591 perhaps widening is appropriate better
z8ytg1T6IbM-02340-00533592-00533855 term of the nexus between corruption and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02341-00533856-00534070 human rights violations they can no
z8ytg1T6IbM-02342-00534071-00534375 longer be seen as siloed events and i
z8ytg1T6IbM-02343-00534376-00534599 would suggest that we also need to
z8ytg1T6IbM-02344-00534600-00534807 recognize
z8ytg1T6IbM-02345-00534808-00534975 the other aspect in terms of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02346-00534976-00535222 environmental degradation as well as
z8ytg1T6IbM-02347-00535223-00535495 very much being part of this um if you
z8ytg1T6IbM-02348-00535496-00535735 like triangle of you know human rights
z8ytg1T6IbM-02349-00535736-00535951 violations environmental degradation and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02350-00535952-00536191 corruption risks because we know
z8ytg1T6IbM-02351-00536192-00536383 bribery and corruption has devastating
z8ytg1T6IbM-02352-00536384-00536607 impacts on the natural environment
z8ytg1T6IbM-02353-00536608-00536870 um so
z8ytg1T6IbM-02354-00536871-00537111 my thanks to all of you and
z8ytg1T6IbM-02355-00537112-00537359 all power to all of you for the work
z8ytg1T6IbM-02356-00537360-00537591 that you do and i thank you very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-02357-00537592-00537814 for the work that each and every one of
z8ytg1T6IbM-02358-00537815-00537983 you do and for all of those that have
z8ytg1T6IbM-02359-00537984-00538287 joined us on the call and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02360-00538288-00538607 that's not bad it's 9 31 so uh one
z8ytg1T6IbM-02361-00538608-00538831 minute over and um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02362-00538832-00538943 to all
z8ytg1T6IbM-02363-00538944-00539039 all our
z8ytg1T6IbM-02364-00539040-00539295 participants who've joined um
z8ytg1T6IbM-02365-00539296-00539670 please uh join me in um in in
z8ytg1T6IbM-02366-00539671-00539903 congratulating uh and and thanking all
z8ytg1T6IbM-02367-00539904-00540159 of our panelists so thank you very much
z8ytg1T6IbM-02368-00540160-00540303 and have a nice
z8ytg1T6IbM-02369-00540304-00540784 a nice day and a nice evening thank you