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Nancy Lee I help Ci88C8DGimu-00001-00000348-00000521 engineers and international Ci88C8DGimu-00002-00000522-00000778 professionals to get opportunity and a Ci88C8DGimu-00003-00000779-00001073 compensation they deserve today we are Ci88C8DGimu-00004-00001074-00001337 not going to talk about Korea topics I'm Ci88C8DGimu-00005-00001338-00001702 going to talk about personal update my Ci88C8DGimu-00006-00001703-00002059 wedding in China is cancelled due to Ci88C8DGimu-00007-00002060-00002385 coronavirus aka Wuhan virus Ci88C8DGimu-00008-00002386-00002659 the reason film in this video is showing Ci88C8DGimu-00009-00002660-00002933 that not everything was very rosy people Ci88C8DGimu-00010-00002934-00003191 5 was a career for money for life for Ci88C8DGimu-00011-00003192-00003509 everything but I've usually do not go to Ci88C8DGimu-00012-00003510-00003836 wig wanna sometimes you throw down by a Ci88C8DGimu-00013-00003836-00004535 life just like this my wedding was um so Ci88C8DGimu-00014-00004536-00004688 today this video I'm going to give you Ci88C8DGimu-00015-00004689-00004954 an update about behind Paris from Ci88C8DGimu-00016-00004955-00005161 someone who's from China and the Ci88C8DGimu-00017-00005162-00005336 information was recorded for people Ci88C8DGimu-00018-00005337-00005611 who's in China and in addition is about Ci88C8DGimu-00019-00005612-00005843 my wedding planning was my plan how I Ci88C8DGimu-00020-00005844-00006188 plan my wallet wedding in China so las Ci88C8DGimu-00021-00006189-00006470 starting from the proposal first so my Ci88C8DGimu-00022-00006470-00006842 fiancé proposed last summer in a Grider Ci88C8DGimu-00023-00006843-00007134 at a Canadian - you Ci88C8DGimu-00024-00007134-00007416 then right after that we decide to have Ci88C8DGimu-00025-00007417-00007688 a wedding in China so we pick a date Ci88C8DGimu-00026-00007689-00008196 which is May 3rd 2020 in China about a Ci88C8DGimu-00027-00008197-00008409 year to prepare for the wedding let Ci88C8DGimu-00028-00008410-00008639 people know we're very confident very Ci88C8DGimu-00029-00008640-00008826 excited having a wedding in China Ci88C8DGimu-00030-00008827-00009327 however corona virus when all of them Ci88C8DGimu-00031-00009328-00009874 chill in December a 20-19 the first Ci88C8DGimu-00032-00009875-00010245 corona virus case was discovered in Ci88C8DGimu-00033-00010246-00010502 Wuhan China as the case started evolve Ci88C8DGimu-00034-00010503-00011115 in January 23rd 2020 the city was Ci88C8DGimu-00035-00011116-00011220 quarantined Ci88C8DGimu-00036-00011221-00011527 nobody can travel awesome to honey and Ci88C8DGimu-00037-00011528-00011946 including bottle cities and run it one Ci88C8DGimu-00038-00011947-00012183 making even worse is recently there was Ci88C8DGimu-00039-00012184-00012449 a blow-up which is the second day after Ci88C8DGimu-00040-00012450-00012837 Chinese New Year with Jimmy 26 the whole Ci88C8DGimu-00041-00012838-00013146 country got shut out which means there's Ci88C8DGimu-00042-00013147-00013469 no intercity travel if you want to Ci88C8DGimu-00043-00013470-00013703 travel for example from my hometown to Ci88C8DGimu-00044-00013704-00014088 Shanghai to another day you will be Ci88C8DGimu-00045-00014088-00014418 detected when you land to Shanghai and Ci88C8DGimu-00046-00014419-00014637 people will put you in quarantine and Ci88C8DGimu-00047-00014638-00014931 nobody will accept you as a guest so Ci88C8DGimu-00048-00014932-00015213 it's highly discouraged to travel in Ci88C8DGimu-00049-00015213-00015471 between cities and in addition the Ci88C8DGimu-00050-00015472-00015693 government told everybody to go to work Ci88C8DGimu-00051-00015694-00016074 late and everybody will wear masks and Ci88C8DGimu-00052-00016075-00016272 all the small business start to shut Ci88C8DGimu-00053-00016272-00016515 down including restaurants and retail Ci88C8DGimu-00054-00016516-00016892 stores the only places as open with Ci88C8DGimu-00055-00016893-00017297 hospital grocery store and also medical Ci88C8DGimu-00056-00017298-00017569 stores they can my medicine and Ci88C8DGimu-00057-00017570-00017859 everybody else just stay home wearing a Ci88C8DGimu-00058-00017860-00018018 mask Ci88C8DGimu-00059-00018019-00018399 here's the fairy doing gel it's very Ci88C8DGimu-00060-00018400-00018546 difficult to work out right now the Ci88C8DGimu-00061-00018547-00018813 entire road in China was pretty empty Ci88C8DGimu-00062-00018814-00018990 what they did is sometimes they wear Ci88C8DGimu-00063-00018991-00019161 masks and walk outside of the block just Ci88C8DGimu-00064-00019162-00019401 get some exercise get some nice fresh Ci88C8DGimu-00065-00019402-00019704 air but they had nothing to do this what Ci88C8DGimu-00066-00019705-00019887 the reason making this YouTube video so Ci88C8DGimu-00067-00019888-00020079 they have something to watch and the Ci88C8DGimu-00068-00020080-00020379 same puppy has nothing to do and as we Ci88C8DGimu-00069-00020380-00020912 continues we already had 14 us guests Ci88C8DGimu-00070-00020913-00021288 confirmed that traveling from us to Ci88C8DGimu-00071-00021289-00021645 China to attend our wedding and most of Ci88C8DGimu-00072-00021646-00021837 them already purchased the flight now Ci88C8DGimu-00073-00021838-00022344 however on January 31st 2020 Delta Air I Ci88C8DGimu-00074-00022345-00022728 announced ahead they're going to cancel Ci88C8DGimu-00075-00022729-00023100 all the flight between China and the US Ci88C8DGimu-00076-00023101-00023298 starting from February all the way Ci88C8DGimu-00077-00023299-00023658 towards the end of April so which means Ci88C8DGimu-00078-00023659-00024021 all my guests are going to get a refund Ci88C8DGimu-00079-00024022-00024249 of the ticket you might think well maybe Ci88C8DGimu-00080-00024250-00024564 at the end of April the virus has come Ci88C8DGimu-00081-00024565-00024786 they can still come you may know what is Ci88C8DGimu-00082-00024787-00025058 in May right but think about this Ci88C8DGimu-00083-00025059-00025428 logistically how does it possible the Ci88C8DGimu-00084-00025429-00025644 ban was lifted by the end of April Ci88C8DGimu-00085-00025645-00025818 there's gonna take the first flight on Ci88C8DGimu-00086-00025819-00026150 May 1st and Kay my wedding on May 3rd Ci88C8DGimu-00087-00026151-00026397 and it's very challenging and also Ci88C8DGimu-00088-00026398-00026622 emotionally I don't sing anybody wanna Ci88C8DGimu-00089-00026623-00026877 go back to China right away on the state Ci88C8DGimu-00090-00026877-00027244 so therefore the wedding was canceled Ci88C8DGimu-00091-00027245-00027489 so here comes the question house my Ci88C8DGimu-00092-00027491-00027787 parents thank you for asking this Ci88C8DGimu-00093-00027788-00027985 question my Karen my parents are doing Ci88C8DGimu-00094-00027986-00028192 very well so all my family members are Ci88C8DGimu-00095-00028193-00028480 still in China so right now they mainly Ci88C8DGimu-00096-00028481-00028774 staying home what if there is a very Ci88C8DGimu-00097-00028775-00029077 bored that's a and the only few cases Ci88C8DGimu-00098-00029077-00029287 discovered in my own City Ci88C8DGimu-00099-00029288-00029595 so my Syria has millions of people's but Ci88C8DGimu-00100-00029597-00029932 less than 10 people were diagnosed with Ci88C8DGimu-00101-00029933-00030033 the disease Ci88C8DGimu-00102-00030035-00030331 so therefore the risk of in interacting Ci88C8DGimu-00103-00030332-00030511 with a person very well as people who Ci88C8DGimu-00104-00030512-00030847 diagnosis with coronavirus has been Ci88C8DGimu-00105-00030848-00031075 already in hospital and the rest of Ci88C8DGimu-00106-00031076-00031267 people like our parents but the mainly Ci88C8DGimu-00107-00031268-00031549 do is stay at home so the next question Ci88C8DGimu-00108-00031550-00031795 is if people stay home what can they do Ci88C8DGimu-00109-00031795-00032068 I cannot do so what it look like in Ci88C8DGimu-00110-00032069-00032299 China right now is for example like my Ci88C8DGimu-00111-00032300-00032545 parents they were told to stay home so Ci88C8DGimu-00112-00032545-00032992 they cannot go out to their community to Ci88C8DGimu-00113-00032993-00033190 go to another community to hang out with Ci88C8DGimu-00114-00033191-00033382 that what is mean is if you live in Ci88C8DGimu-00115-00033383-00033625 Cambridge you only hang out with people Ci88C8DGimu-00116-00033626-00033931 in Cambridge you do not go to Boston for Ci88C8DGimu-00117-00033932-00034048 grocery shopping Ci88C8DGimu-00118-00034049-00034351 however they are allowed to go grocery Ci88C8DGimu-00119-00034352-00034564 shopping every other day into a Ci88C8DGimu-00120-00034565-00034744 different city for the purpose of buying Ci88C8DGimu-00121-00034745-00034975 some food but in general you're not Ci88C8DGimu-00122-00034976-00035293 recommended to go in between communities Ci88C8DGimu-00123-00035294-00035554 in between cities now next question is Ci88C8DGimu-00124-00035555-00035794 as you can imagine everything was shut Ci88C8DGimu-00125-00035795-00036076 down in terms of restaurants and Ci88C8DGimu-00126-00036077-00036358 entertainment karaoke all the small Ci88C8DGimu-00127-00036359-00036523 businesses were shut down everything Ci88C8DGimu-00128-00036524-00036889 turned online cousins company and their Ci88C8DGimu-00129-00036890-00037117 company is a pretty big national owned Ci88C8DGimu-00130-00037118-00037411 company they all work from home so they Ci88C8DGimu-00131-00037412-00037612 can still use computers just those Ci88C8DGimu-00132-00037613-00037855 breaking motors doors has been heavily Ci88C8DGimu-00133-00037856-00038068 impacted because they cannot open their Ci88C8DGimu-00134-00038069-00038425 stores the next question is what is rule Ci88C8DGimu-00135-00038426-00038719 cried when people were in quarantine let Ci88C8DGimu-00136-00038720-00038947 me give you a real life example for Ci88C8DGimu-00137-00038948-00039268 example my cousin she was in our Ci88C8DGimu-00138-00039269-00039583 hometown in jungjie province now she Ci88C8DGimu-00139-00039584-00039937 needs to travel back to another city to Ci88C8DGimu-00140-00039938-00040246 work the thing is she doesn't have any Ci88C8DGimu-00141-00040247-00040450 disease she was okay but when you Ci88C8DGimu-00142-00040451-00040744 trouble entering another city what you Ci88C8DGimu-00143-00040745-00040936 need to do is you need to be in Ci88C8DGimu-00144-00040937-00041287 quarantine for 14 days so for her in her Ci88C8DGimu-00145-00041288-00041554 case they put her in a hotel so this is Ci88C8DGimu-00146-00041555-00041830 a video of her hotel room she has a bad Ci88C8DGimu-00147-00041831-00042055 you say exactly hotel room and she work Ci88C8DGimu-00148-00042056-00042340 from home in the hotel for 14 days and Ci88C8DGimu-00149-00042341-00042589 she does not interact with other people Ci88C8DGimu-00150-00042590-00042919 during this 14 days after 14 days if she Ci88C8DGimu-00151-00042920-00043204 is okay with no symptoms you can freely Ci88C8DGimu-00152-00043205-00043492 go back to work to do anything to get to Ci88C8DGimu-00153-00043493-00043780 join the normal life basically however Ci88C8DGimu-00154-00043781-00044227 if you are diagnosis with like symptoms Ci88C8DGimu-00155-00044228-00044392 or everything when you are quarantined Ci88C8DGimu-00156-00044393-00044632 your quarantine is the hospital only Ci88C8DGimu-00157-00044633-00044884 those people who was okay before they Ci88C8DGimu-00158-00044885-00045058 travel back to where they need to work Ci88C8DGimu-00159-00045059-00045408 and they stay at other places relative Ci88C8DGimu-00160-00045409-00045655 comfortable places for quarantine may Ci88C8DGimu-00161-00045656-00045823 also hurt other places when in Ci88C8DGimu-00162-00045824-00046084 quarantine you can stay in offices they Ci88C8DGimu-00163-00046085-00046288 just give you a dad for you sleep there Ci88C8DGimu-00164-00046289-00046507 and give you Wi-Fi so you can work from Ci88C8DGimu-00165-00046508-00046765 anywhere so in general that's what's Ci88C8DGimu-00166-00046766-00047146 looks like in China right now and for my Ci88C8DGimu-00167-00047147-00047413 wedding I think the impact my wedding is Ci88C8DGimu-00168-00047414-00047716 relative small compared with the impact Ci88C8DGimu-00169-00047717-00047956 to China and other businesses so I'm Ci88C8DGimu-00170-00047957-00048196 okay but if you have similar experience Ci88C8DGimu-00171-00048197-00048418 regarding how your wedding was impacted Ci88C8DGimu-00172-00048419-00048625 how would you rearrange everything about Ci88C8DGimu-00173-00048626-00048673 your wedding Ci88C8DGimu-00174-00048674-00048880 please comment down below so I can learn Ci88C8DGimu-00175-00048881-00049029 from you guys Ci88C8DGimu-00176-00049030-00049407 and finally is about what do the rest of Ci88C8DGimu-00177-00049408-00049686 Chinese do if you do not live inside Ci88C8DGimu-00178-00049687-00049986 China so for example right now I live in Ci88C8DGimu-00179-00049987-00050199 the US they are the Chinese people Ci88C8DGimu-00180-00050200-00050427 living in write Europe other places and Ci88C8DGimu-00181-00050428-00050703 all the Chinese also does China start to Ci88C8DGimu-00182-00050704-00051009 get United we start to donate money and Ci88C8DGimu-00183-00051010-00051384 start to buy medical stuff and ship it Ci88C8DGimu-00184-00051385-00051711 to China and for example my Zaza cousin Ci88C8DGimu-00185-00051712-00052026 she's a nurse she's literally sent me Ci88C8DGimu-00186-00052027-00052302 pictures for her running on a mask every Ci88C8DGimu-00187-00052303-00052563 day she has used the old mask from the Ci88C8DGimu-00188-00052564-00052872 day before to cover the new mask because Ci88C8DGimu-00189-00052873-00053136 those masks pretty thin and all the Ci88C8DGimu-00190-00053137-00053370 hospitals are running out a mask at the Ci88C8DGimu-00191-00053371-00053610 nurse like she's at the front line Ci88C8DGimu-00192-00053611-00053790 dealing with those patients she's out a Ci88C8DGimu-00193-00053791-00053913 mask right now Ci88C8DGimu-00194-00053914-00054171 and so therefore all the Chinese right Ci88C8DGimu-00195-00054172-00054345 now will buy mask all over the world Ci88C8DGimu-00196-00054346-00054672 from Europe from us everywhere you can Ci88C8DGimu-00197-00054673-00054945 imagine and we ship it together to the Ci88C8DGimu-00198-00054946-00055296 hospitals in China there is a nonprofit Ci88C8DGimu-00199-00055297-00055596 organization myself donate money to is Ci88C8DGimu-00200-00055597-00055827 that they specifically have engineers Ci88C8DGimu-00201-00055828-00056199 watch step by step process to make sure Ci88C8DGimu-00202-00056200-00056484 the specific mass and medicals have been Ci88C8DGimu-00203-00056485-00056763 delivered to the hospital directly and Ci88C8DGimu-00204-00056764-00057029 this specific group is located in Boston Ci88C8DGimu-00205-00057030-00057266 myself already donate money to them and Ci88C8DGimu-00206-00057266-00057648 they are ready $50,000 worth of masks Ci88C8DGimu-00207-00057649-00057837 and medical some shipped to China Ci88C8DGimu-00208-00057838-00058083 already so the team is still growing you Ci88C8DGimu-00209-00058084-00058241 can see them working really hard right Ci88C8DGimu-00210-00058242-00058500 now if your interest either join them or Ci88C8DGimu-00211-00058501-00058803 donate money to those organizations I'm Ci88C8DGimu-00212-00058804-00058979 going to put a link down below and Ci88C8DGimu-00213-00058980-00059325 hopefully we can all conquer this Ci88C8DGimu-00214-00059326-00059567 coronavirus I have confidence you are Ci88C8DGimu-00215-00059569-00059816 interesting any Korea topic back to my Ci88C8DGimu-00216-00059817-00060029 normal for a management and negotiation Ci88C8DGimu-00217-00060030-00060305 topics feel free to subscribe to my Ci88C8DGimu-00218-00060307-00060554 newsletter so you can see the new server Ci88C8DGimu-00219-00060555-00060741 link down below I'm going to send you Ci88C8DGimu-00220-00060741-00060960 some personalized advice and information Ci88C8DGimu-00221-00060961-00061157 about what behind the sea Ci88C8DGimu-00222-00061158-00061444 as a hiring manager alright I will see Ci88C8DGimu-00223-00061445-00061586 you next time Ci88C8DGimu-00224-00061587-00061962 I Ci88C8DGimu-00225-00061963-00062722 [Music] ClD5oBiZGBu-00000-00001536-00002587 foreign ClD5oBiZGBu-00001-00002588-00003990 [Music] ClD5oBiZGBu-00002-00003992-00004263 yo this is so crazy so i saw this video ClD5oBiZGBu-00003-00004264-00004406 someone sent send it to me on my ClD5oBiZGBu-00004-00004407-00004575 telegram when i saw this video i was ClD5oBiZGBu-00005-00004576-00004886 like no this cannot be real this cannot ClD5oBiZGBu-00006-00004887-00005079 be real what 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ClD5oBiZGBu-00052-00015112-00015407 the reason that u.s and the reason that ClD5oBiZGBu-00053-00015408-00015663 china is not taking over us and the ClD5oBiZGBu-00054-00015663-00015855 london or some other countries because ClD5oBiZGBu-00055-00015856-00016127 india is having a very big army ClD5oBiZGBu-00056-00016128-00016335 and you guys need to know about that ClD5oBiZGBu-00057-00016336-00016494 you know and these people just like you ClD5oBiZGBu-00058-00016495-00016607 know ClD5oBiZGBu-00059-00016608-00016943 we are everything not china is doing a ClD5oBiZGBu-00060-00016944-00017183 very wicked thing every virus everything ClD5oBiZGBu-00061-00017184-00017358 they are trying to ClD5oBiZGBu-00062-00017359-00017750 bring back all ancient uh viruses and ClD5oBiZGBu-00063-00017751-00017983 all the ceremonies that were going on ClD5oBiZGBu-00064-00017984-00018230 that time it's happening again ClD5oBiZGBu-00065-00018231-00018455 look what they are the one that ClD5oBiZGBu-00066-00018456-00018735 producing everything all right iphone or ClD5oBiZGBu-00067-00018736-00018871 whatever the thing but they are not ClD5oBiZGBu-00068-00018872-00019039 using ClD5oBiZGBu-00069-00019040-00019327 and they it's like an egypt or what i ClD5oBiZGBu-00070-00019328-00019527 can say uh they're slave there's a lot ClD5oBiZGBu-00071-00019528-00019703 of people should and the reason i'm ClD5oBiZGBu-00072-00019704-00019919 adding this video over here today ClD5oBiZGBu-00073-00019920-00020119 christians who are watching need to be ClD5oBiZGBu-00074-00020120-00020255 awake today ClD5oBiZGBu-00075-00020256-00020439 because you see the people who are ClD5oBiZGBu-00076-00020440-00020678 saying i'm not able to pray my brother ClD5oBiZGBu-00077-00020679-00020863 i'm not able to read it i'm not able to ClD5oBiZGBu-00078-00020864-00021167 wake up i'm not able to read the bible ClD5oBiZGBu-00079-00021168-00021350 you know and you're having a good food ClD5oBiZGBu-00080-00021351-00021630 and good meal uh you know you don't you ClD5oBiZGBu-00081-00021631-00021830 don't even want to ClD5oBiZGBu-00082-00021831-00021999 wear a mask you can go to the beach you ClD5oBiZGBu-00083-00022000-00022199 can do all that stuff you can go to this ClD5oBiZGBu-00084-00022200-00022335 thing ClD5oBiZGBu-00085-00022336-00022503 and you're so free ClD5oBiZGBu-00086-00022504-00022678 but there's a people ClD5oBiZGBu-00087-00022679-00022975 on your in your neighborhood which is ClD5oBiZGBu-00088-00022976-00023375 next to your country all right suffering ClD5oBiZGBu-00089-00023376-00023558 very badly ClD5oBiZGBu-00090-00023559-00023711 suffering ClD5oBiZGBu-00091-00023712-00023903 and you should pray for them ClD5oBiZGBu-00092-00023904-00024071 you should wake up ClD5oBiZGBu-00093-00024072-00024342 in reality of spiritual wealth and you ClD5oBiZGBu-00094-00024343-00024575 should pray for them you should pray for ClD5oBiZGBu-00095-00024576-00024735 our country you should pray for your ClD5oBiZGBu-00096-00024736-00024975 country and we should stand together ClD5oBiZGBu-00097-00024976-00025222 because these are the day that people ClD5oBiZGBu-00098-00025223-00025519 won't stand before if anyone is gonna ClD5oBiZGBu-00099-00025520-00025687 stand they are in jail ClD5oBiZGBu-00100-00025688-00025814 you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00101-00025816-00026078 so even i know you know everything that ClD5oBiZGBu-00102-00026079-00026262 i'm talking i don't care who ClD5oBiZGBu-00103-00026263-00026470 like some people postures have came come ClD5oBiZGBu-00104-00026472-00026607 against me ClD5oBiZGBu-00105-00026608-00026895 they have called my father uh you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00106-00026895-00027135 by some pastors that knowing my family ClD5oBiZGBu-00107-00027136-00027358 closely they called my family as saying ClD5oBiZGBu-00108-00027360-00027527 he's gonna be in jail if he's gonna talk ClD5oBiZGBu-00109-00027527-00027743 about all this stuff my family costumes ClD5oBiZGBu-00110-00027744-00027999 came to my room and uh my home and say ClD5oBiZGBu-00111-00028000-00028207 you know if he's gonna talk like this ClD5oBiZGBu-00112-00028208-00028407 kind of thing say about saturn and ClD5oBiZGBu-00113-00028408-00028646 everything then he's the the cops is ClD5oBiZGBu-00114-00028647-00028783 gonna come to the home he's gonna be out ClD5oBiZGBu-00115-00028783-00028958 of steps to tell him the stuff you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00116-00028960-00029231 they tried to fear my family but of ClD5oBiZGBu-00117-00029232-00029423 course my father repeat them ClD5oBiZGBu-00118-00029424-00029518 you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00119-00029519-00029695 so these are the things that we need to ClD5oBiZGBu-00120-00029695-00029814 be awake ClD5oBiZGBu-00121-00029816-00030070 no one is standing like elijah today ClD5oBiZGBu-00122-00030072-00030239 these are the things this is happening ClD5oBiZGBu-00123-00030239-00030495 because they far they have bow down to ClD5oBiZGBu-00124-00030495-00030711 the world because how they have no ClD5oBiZGBu-00125-00030712-00030823 choice ClD5oBiZGBu-00126-00030824-00031135 they have no choice and these all these ClD5oBiZGBu-00127-00031136-00031374 viruses and all these kind of thing that ClD5oBiZGBu-00128-00031375-00031631 bringing up uh to kill the people not ClD5oBiZGBu-00129-00031632-00031855 only kill the people to clean the a ClD5oBiZGBu-00130-00031856-00032174 country but to bring the new world order ClD5oBiZGBu-00131-00032175-00032374 are you seeing what i'm saying this is ClD5oBiZGBu-00132-00032375-00032639 so crazy this is not a ClD5oBiZGBu-00133-00032639-00032783 fashion week or ClD5oBiZGBu-00134-00032784-00032959 anything this is ClD5oBiZGBu-00135-00032960-00033174 happening in their life ClD5oBiZGBu-00136-00033175-00033383 you know this is the same stuff that ClD5oBiZGBu-00137-00033384-00033639 happened to the ancient day or um ClD5oBiZGBu-00138-00033640-00033895 in back to the back two days before the ClD5oBiZGBu-00139-00033896-00034143 uh or or the same ceremony that you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00140-00034144-00034302 one of the ceremony i don't know where ClD5oBiZGBu-00141-00034303-00034446 it was ClD5oBiZGBu-00142-00034447-00034671 but someone performed a big ceremony in ClD5oBiZGBu-00143-00034672-00035023 a stadium or to bring the black death ClD5oBiZGBu-00144-00035024-00035246 uh you know so this is this is a ClD5oBiZGBu-00145-00035247-00035399 ceremony that coming from the egypt ClD5oBiZGBu-00146-00035400-00035583 ceremony all right ClD5oBiZGBu-00147-00035584-00035790 uh in the temple of said that they also ClD5oBiZGBu-00148-00035791-00035999 perform uh i don't i'm not naming the ClD5oBiZGBu-00149-00036000-00036246 principality ring but it's uh you can ClD5oBiZGBu-00150-00036247-00036502 you can identify it's a symbol of crow ClD5oBiZGBu-00151-00036503-00036718 all right so these are these are the ClD5oBiZGBu-00152-00036719-00036887 same ceremonies also they're doing to ClD5oBiZGBu-00153-00036888-00037127 bring all these viruses also through the ClD5oBiZGBu-00154-00037128-00037374 birds you know i saw another video that ClD5oBiZGBu-00155-00037375-00037662 testing uh you know the coffee texting ClD5oBiZGBu-00156-00037663-00037911 testing on the ClD5oBiZGBu-00157-00037912-00038118 birds putting the ClD5oBiZGBu-00158-00038119-00038430 testing uh tube in their mouth in the ClD5oBiZGBu-00159-00038431-00038695 all the private part in the animal i'm ClD5oBiZGBu-00160-00038696-00038846 talking about animal ClD5oBiZGBu-00161-00038847-00039071 so they're going crazy my friend they're ClD5oBiZGBu-00162-00039072-00039207 going crazy ClD5oBiZGBu-00163-00039208-00039439 so yeah we should pray for our country ClD5oBiZGBu-00164-00039440-00039662 we should pray for we should stand and ClD5oBiZGBu-00165-00039663-00039839 stand as a doorkeeper today for our ClD5oBiZGBu-00166-00039840-00040095 country for our home for about for our ClD5oBiZGBu-00167-00040096-00040207 neighbor ClD5oBiZGBu-00168-00040208-00040455 for our churches you know churches or ClD5oBiZGBu-00169-00040456-00040743 china we should pray there's churches in ClD5oBiZGBu-00170-00040744-00041030 china there's missionaries in china all ClD5oBiZGBu-00171-00041031-00041230 right they're also we should at least we ClD5oBiZGBu-00172-00041231-00041415 should pray for them ClD5oBiZGBu-00173-00041416-00041679 so guys i just want to let you know you ClD5oBiZGBu-00174-00041680-00041927 should pray for all these people uh you ClD5oBiZGBu-00175-00041928-00042151 know we cannot just stay and here by ClD5oBiZGBu-00176-00042152-00042327 saying oh poor people over there ClD5oBiZGBu-00177-00042328-00042630 suffering no no no no we have to be pray ClD5oBiZGBu-00178-00042631-00042855 maybe you'll be getting attacked but ClD5oBiZGBu-00179-00042856-00043015 god got you man ClD5oBiZGBu-00180-00043016-00043351 jesus is behind you you go and fight ClD5oBiZGBu-00181-00043352-00043567 you know how you know how proud heaven ClD5oBiZGBu-00182-00043568-00043727 will be rejoicing when you fight for ClD5oBiZGBu-00183-00043728-00043895 another country ClD5oBiZGBu-00184-00043896-00044071 so be praying for them be praying for ClD5oBiZGBu-00185-00044072-00044327 north korea be praying for uh china and ClD5oBiZGBu-00186-00044328-00044574 japan india your every every country ClD5oBiZGBu-00187-00044575-00044823 will be praying and so this is happening ClD5oBiZGBu-00188-00044824-00044974 if they are hiding everything they're ClD5oBiZGBu-00189-00044975-00045143 hiding the truth ClD5oBiZGBu-00190-00045144-00045518 i saw that uh a post that someone uh ClD5oBiZGBu-00191-00045519-00045639 sent me that ClD5oBiZGBu-00192-00045640-00045767 like you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00193-00045768-00045999 they're printing a t-shirt and sending ClD5oBiZGBu-00194-00046000-00046295 to another country and the tagline tag ClD5oBiZGBu-00195-00046296-00046415 in the you know there's a co in the ClD5oBiZGBu-00196-00046416-00046646 question there's attack inside attack ClD5oBiZGBu-00197-00046647-00046846 they're written like a helpers we are in ClD5oBiZGBu-00198-00046847-00047102 trouble we need food we need that you ClD5oBiZGBu-00199-00047103-00047327 know we need free they so that's a step ClD5oBiZGBu-00200-00047328-00047407 there ClD5oBiZGBu-00201-00047408-00047615 so the chinese country are covering ClD5oBiZGBu-00202-00047616-00047902 hiding a lot of truth you know from us ClD5oBiZGBu-00203-00047903-00048046 they are they're not revealing ClD5oBiZGBu-00204-00048047-00048190 everything ClD5oBiZGBu-00205-00048191-00048286 so ClD5oBiZGBu-00206-00048287-00048551 even india if they they're not revealing ClD5oBiZGBu-00207-00048552-00048807 uh the total account of ko9d or they're ClD5oBiZGBu-00208-00048808-00049230 not revealing nothing uh example uh the ClD5oBiZGBu-00209-00049231-00049479 death of the or copy 90 the they are not ClD5oBiZGBu-00210-00049480-00049639 revealing all this stuff ClD5oBiZGBu-00211-00049640-00049839 but we know i know ClD5oBiZGBu-00212-00049840-00050015 it's uncountable ClD5oBiZGBu-00213-00050016-00050335 uncountable ever it's huge ClD5oBiZGBu-00214-00050336-00050527 all right so we should pray for these ClD5oBiZGBu-00215-00050528-00050695 people we should pray for our country we ClD5oBiZGBu-00216-00050696-00050846 should pray for the ministers of the ClD5oBiZGBu-00217-00050847-00051079 government we should pray for my people ClD5oBiZGBu-00218-00051080-00051302 because we are living in time ClD5oBiZGBu-00219-00051303-00051526 all right because we should if we are ClD5oBiZGBu-00220-00051527-00051711 not praying for our missionaries how ClD5oBiZGBu-00221-00051712-00051966 they are they are going to reach out to ClD5oBiZGBu-00222-00051967-00052270 the people by the word of god ClD5oBiZGBu-00223-00052271-00052487 i am trying my best to reach out the ClD5oBiZGBu-00224-00052488-00052654 word of god and exposing the kingdom of ClD5oBiZGBu-00225-00052655-00052854 darkness to social media ClD5oBiZGBu-00226-00052855-00053119 and physically as soon and that's why ClD5oBiZGBu-00227-00053120-00053366 i'm going every day single day uploading ClD5oBiZGBu-00228-00053367-00053511 every single day ClD5oBiZGBu-00229-00053512-00053687 because i don't i'll be not having time ClD5oBiZGBu-00230-00053688-00053823 when i go out ClD5oBiZGBu-00231-00053824-00054071 all right i'll be soon out ClD5oBiZGBu-00232-00054072-00054279 so yeah of course i'll be uploading the ClD5oBiZGBu-00233-00054279-00054542 video even if i'm outside but what i'm ClD5oBiZGBu-00234-00054544-00054863 telling there is missionaries who is ClD5oBiZGBu-00235-00054864-00055063 risking their own life they have they ClD5oBiZGBu-00236-00055064-00055215 have no idea that they are going to be ClD5oBiZGBu-00237-00055216-00055303 back ClD5oBiZGBu-00238-00055304-00055487 they are not going to see the family ClD5oBiZGBu-00239-00055488-00055719 again more you know so there is a red ClD5oBiZGBu-00240-00055720-00055887 zone they are in ClD5oBiZGBu-00241-00055888-00056087 so be praying for these people praying ClD5oBiZGBu-00242-00056088-00056279 for the country pray for the families ClD5oBiZGBu-00243-00056279-00056463 and everywhere so just letting you know ClD5oBiZGBu-00244-00056464-00056663 this stuff yeah this is happening i ClD5oBiZGBu-00245-00056664-00056823 don't know you saw this or not but i ClD5oBiZGBu-00246-00056824-00056966 just saw it now ClD5oBiZGBu-00247-00056967-00057303 uh one morning and i was like oh my god ClD5oBiZGBu-00248-00057304-00057415 this is ClD5oBiZGBu-00249-00057416-00057550 crazy ClD5oBiZGBu-00250-00057551-00058294 so we praying shalom blessings here ClD5oBiZGBu-00251-00058295-00058699 [Applause] ClD5oBiZGBu-00252-00058700-00059815 [Music] ClD5oBiZGBu-00253-00059816-00060024 you CnMqb8dRHJY-00000-00000689-00001061 hi my name is juniper Simona's I use CnMqb8dRHJY-00001-00001062-00001256 they/them pronouns but I'm going to be CnMqb8dRHJY-00002-00001257-00001453 speaking today about the L that's our CnMqb8dRHJY-00003-00001454-00001787 package L death stands for latent deer CnMqb8dRHJY-00004-00001788-00002081 clay allocation coupled with time series CnMqb8dRHJY-00005-00002082-00002359 analysis this work was done in CnMqb8dRHJY-00006-00002360-00002530 collaboration with a team of researchers CnMqb8dRHJY-00007-00002531-00002818 based out of the we ecology lab at the CnMqb8dRHJY-00008-00002819-00003064 University of Florida CnMqb8dRHJY-00009-00003065-00003419 our motivation in developing the all CnMqb8dRHJY-00010-00003420-00003671 that package is to create analytical CnMqb8dRHJY-00011-00003672-00003872 tools to study multi-dimensional CnMqb8dRHJY-00012-00003872-00004256 ecological time series specifically the CnMqb8dRHJY-00013-00004257-00004478 project was started to analyze dynamics CnMqb8dRHJY-00014-00004479-00004766 of the portal project run community a CnMqb8dRHJY-00015-00004767-00005039 group of 20 species of rodents pictured CnMqb8dRHJY-00016-00005040-00005336 here in the desert Southwest that have CnMqb8dRHJY-00017-00005337-00005698 been sampled monthly for over 40 years CnMqb8dRHJY-00018-00005699-00006029 this time series shows each species CnMqb8dRHJY-00019-00006030-00006409 counts individually over time and makes CnMqb8dRHJY-00020-00006411-00006784 evident the changes in temporal patterns CnMqb8dRHJY-00021-00006784-00007214 just eyeballing these four lines we can CnMqb8dRHJY-00022-00007215-00007505 see periods in the time series where CnMqb8dRHJY-00023-00007506-00007772 both the species level and the community CnMqb8dRHJY-00024-00007773-00008147 level dynamics change for example it's CnMqb8dRHJY-00025-00008148-00008372 just really in this last period where we CnMqb8dRHJY-00026-00008373-00008630 see the advent of very large magnitude CnMqb8dRHJY-00027-00008631-00009149 cycles a main goal of our work is then CnMqb8dRHJY-00028-00009150-00009436 to associate changes in ecological CnMqb8dRHJY-00029-00009437-00009817 dynamics to external stressors like CnMqb8dRHJY-00030-00009818-00010121 climate change invasive species and CnMqb8dRHJY-00031-00010122-00010598 human mediated landscape alteration for CnMqb8dRHJY-00032-00010599-00010901 example this plot here shows the five CnMqb8dRHJY-00033-00010902-00011108 year precipitation and temperature CnMqb8dRHJY-00034-00011109-00011478 averages at the portal site since 1980 CnMqb8dRHJY-00035-00011479-00011720 indicating clearly that the site is CnMqb8dRHJY-00036-00011721-00012032 experiencing warmer and drier weather CnMqb8dRHJY-00037-00012033-00012644 over time in evaluating the impact of CnMqb8dRHJY-00038-00012645-00012941 these stressors on ecological dynamics CnMqb8dRHJY-00039-00012941-00013205 research indicates that we really need CnMqb8dRHJY-00040-00013206-00013486 to explore and consider the potential CnMqb8dRHJY-00041-00013487-00013641 contributions CnMqb8dRHJY-00042-00013643-00014125 stochasticity autocorrelation cyclic CnMqb8dRHJY-00043-00014126-00014519 dynamics gradual changes and abrupt CnMqb8dRHJY-00044-00014519-00015069 shifts known as regime shifts in ecology CnMqb8dRHJY-00045-00015070-00015394 this work was instigated by erika CnMqb8dRHJY-00046-00015395-00015566 christensen as part of her dissertation CnMqb8dRHJY-00047-00015566-00015869 at the university of florida and she and CnMqb8dRHJY-00048-00015869-00016085 co-authors established the methodology CnMqb8dRHJY-00049-00016086-00016346 underlying the AL des package which is CnMqb8dRHJY-00050-00016347-00016750 published in this 2018 reports in CnMqb8dRHJY-00051-00016751-00017213 ecology however in that paper the name CnMqb8dRHJY-00052-00017214-00017483 el des doesn't appear it was coined CnMqb8dRHJY-00053-00017484-00017905 later to refer to the methodology as CnMqb8dRHJY-00054-00017906-00018158 Layton dear clay allocation and time CnMqb8dRHJY-00055-00018159-00018500 series analyses however we've been 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model run with the idea being that we CnMqb8dRHJY-00070-00022722-00022940 keep all of the horses under the hood so CnMqb8dRHJY-00071-00022941-00023402 to speak and indeed we have developed el CnMqb8dRHJY-00072-00023403-00023639 Vettes as a package it's presently on CnMqb8dRHJY-00073-00023640-00024086 crayon as version 22.7 that gives the CnMqb8dRHJY-00074-00024087-00024461 user a simple top level API as Lda CnMqb8dRHJY-00075-00024462-00024808 underscore TS we're engaged in ongoing CnMqb8dRHJY-00076-00024809-00025081 work to expand the method but the CnMqb8dRHJY-00077-00025082-00025261 package allows the user to conduct CnMqb8dRHJY-00078-00025262-00025514 analyses akin to christian said at all CnMqb8dRHJY-00079-00025515-00025927 with some additional options today I CnMqb8dRHJY-00080-00025928-00026108 have a bit more into the statistical CnMqb8dRHJY-00081-00026108-00026435 underpinnings el Vettes uses a two-stage CnMqb8dRHJY-00082-00026436-00026729 approach where the first stage is CnMqb8dRHJY-00083-00026730-00026965 focused on reducing the dimensionality CnMqb8dRHJY-00084-00026966-00027045 of the data CnMqb8dRHJY-00085-00027047-00027319 and then the second stage involves CnMqb8dRHJY-00086-00027320-00027627 fitting the reduce dimensions in the CnMqb8dRHJY-00087-00027629-00027994 time series analyses as you might CnMqb8dRHJY-00088-00027995-00028195 imagine given the name of the package CnMqb8dRHJY-00089-00028195-00028477 the initial dimension reduction CnMqb8dRHJY-00090-00028477-00028687 technique that's we that we've been CnMqb8dRHJY-00091-00028688-00028873 using has been latent ear clay CnMqb8dRHJY-00092-00028874-00029139 allocation which is shown here inflate CnMqb8dRHJY-00093-00029141-00029419 notation on the right and derives its CnMqb8dRHJY-00094-00029420-00029692 terminology from an original application CnMqb8dRHJY-00095-00029693-00029970 of the method to analyzing textual CnMqb8dRHJY-00096-00029972-00030408 corpora where m is the total documents CnMqb8dRHJY-00097-00030410-00030679 in the corpus n is the total number of CnMqb8dRHJY-00098-00030680-00031077 words and then each word belongs to a CnMqb8dRHJY-00099-00031079-00031445 term which belongs to a topic and then CnMqb8dRHJY-00100-00031447-00031831 those identities are described via a CnMqb8dRHJY-00101-00031832-00032116 couple of parameters that allow simple CnMqb8dRHJY-00102-00032117-00032482 decomposition of the document by word CnMqb8dRHJY-00103-00032483-00032940 matrix into topics so you have a matrix CnMqb8dRHJY-00104-00032941-00033217 decomposition so a document by topic CnMqb8dRHJY-00105-00033218-00033487 matrix multiplied by a topic by a word CnMqb8dRHJY-00106-00033488-00033760 matrix but what's really important here CnMqb8dRHJY-00107-00033761-00034117 is that words can belong to multiple CnMqb8dRHJY-00108-00034118-00034531 topics in the ecological parlance we CnMqb8dRHJY-00109-00034532-00034821 think about decomposing the sample by CnMqb8dRHJY-00110-00034822-00035119 species matrix into a matrix that is CnMqb8dRHJY-00111-00035120-00035581 simple by guild multiplied by guild by CnMqb8dRHJY-00112-00035582-00035890 species species can belong to multiple CnMqb8dRHJY-00113-00035891-00036142 guilds but now we have a reduced CnMqb8dRHJY-00114-00036143-00036424 dimensionality for the response variable CnMqb8dRHJY-00115-00036425-00036690 of guilds as opposed to species for the CnMqb8dRHJY-00116-00036691-00037333 time series as the rodent data CnMqb8dRHJY-00117-00037334-00037639 highlighted before raw ecological time CnMqb8dRHJY-00118-00037640-00037909 series and display a range of possible CnMqb8dRHJY-00119-00037910-00038218 dynamics and this is also true after CnMqb8dRHJY-00120-00038219-00038404 decomposing the data which you can see CnMqb8dRHJY-00121-00038405-00038746 here where we've used L da to decompose CnMqb8dRHJY-00122-00038747-00038995 the 20 species down to 4 topics or CnMqb8dRHJY-00123-00038996-00039358 guilds but again we only see this high CnMqb8dRHJY-00124-00039359-00039604 magnitude cycling near the end of the CnMqb8dRHJY-00125-00039605-00040105 time series and so in order to analyze CnMqb8dRHJY-00126-00040106-00040420 these kinds of time series we need CnMqb8dRHJY-00127-00040421-00040708 methods that have multivariate responses CnMqb8dRHJY-00128-00040709-00041027 and flexible predictors that allow for CnMqb8dRHJY-00129-00041028-00041439 qualitative and quantitative changes CnMqb8dRHJY-00130-00041440-00041854 first focusing in on the responsible CnMqb8dRHJY-00131-00041855-00042174 rather than reinvents any wheels we're CnMqb8dRHJY-00132-00042175-00042376 leveraging existing multivariate CnMqb8dRHJY-00133-00042377-00042633 regression tools for the initial l nets CnMqb8dRHJY-00134-00042634-00042912 model and what's published in CnMqb8dRHJY-00135-00042913-00043227 christensen at all we use soft mass CnMqb8dRHJY-00136-00043228-00043570 softmax based regression via the add net CnMqb8dRHJY-00137-00043571-00043771 package which is part of the maths CnMqb8dRHJY-00138-00043772-00044179 family of packages however we have hit CnMqb8dRHJY-00139-00044180-00044485 some limitations with the softmax in CnMqb8dRHJY-00140-00044486-00044721 applying it to some new datasets and so CnMqb8dRHJY-00141-00044722-00044905 we're incorporating additional response CnMqb8dRHJY-00142-00044906-00045252 models into the package that aren't CnMqb8dRHJY-00143-00045253-00045406 quite ready yet but will be coming soon CnMqb8dRHJY-00144-00045407-00045667 in the next release version oat flakes CnMqb8dRHJY-00145-00045668-00045964 leave point O and in particular we're CnMqb8dRHJY-00146-00045965-00046218 looking at simplex based methodology via CnMqb8dRHJY-00147-00046219-00046746 the compositions package turning our CnMqb8dRHJY-00148-00046747-00046965 focus now to the predictor component of CnMqb8dRHJY-00149-00046966-00047221 the model following Christensen at all CnMqb8dRHJY-00150-00047222-00047521 the Aldith methodology uses Bayesian CnMqb8dRHJY-00151-00047522-00047743 change point regression based on an CnMqb8dRHJY-00152-00047744-00048120 indicator approach as you can see here CnMqb8dRHJY-00153-00048121-00048364 in a figure from Ruggieri's paper CnMqb8dRHJY-00154-00048365-00048682 describing the method where it's applied CnMqb8dRHJY-00155-00048683-00048927 to Noah temperature data the model can CnMqb8dRHJY-00156-00048928-00049224 identify qualitative changes as these CnMqb8dRHJY-00157-00049225-00049477 change points in the face of additional CnMqb8dRHJY-00158-00049478-00049711 cyclic dynamics which is really what CnMqb8dRHJY-00159-00049712-00049977 we're interested in here right because CnMqb8dRHJY-00160-00049978-00050182 this is important in the context of our CnMqb8dRHJY-00161-00050183-00050479 ecological data as well where we expect CnMqb8dRHJY-00162-00050480-00050724 there to be potentially none or many CnMqb8dRHJY-00163-00050725-00051007 change points with potentially variable CnMqb8dRHJY-00164-00051008-00051321 dynamics between them these dynamics are CnMqb8dRHJY-00165-00051322-00051552 then governed in a regression sense by CnMqb8dRHJY-00166-00051553-00051876 covariance and regressors and those CnMqb8dRHJY-00167-00051877-00052111 regressors might change between these CnMqb8dRHJY-00168-00052112-00052326 change points these qualitative change CnMqb8dRHJY-00169-00052327-00052687 points so following established methods CnMqb8dRHJY-00170-00052688-00052956 we take a sequential approach to fitting CnMqb8dRHJY-00171-00052957-00053311 time series where we first estimate the CnMqb8dRHJY-00172-00053312-00053566 posterior probability of change points CnMqb8dRHJY-00173-00053566-00053809 and their locations uncondition CnMqb8dRHJY-00174-00053810-00054105 on the regressors this also provides CnMqb8dRHJY-00175-00054106-00054397 estimates of the regressors but they are CnMqb8dRHJY-00176-00054398-00054691 conditional on the change points so that CnMqb8dRHJY-00177-00054691-00054885 the second part of the sequence is CnMqb8dRHJY-00178-00054886-00055147 deconditioning the posterior CnMqb8dRHJY-00179-00055148-00055384 probabilities of these regressors given CnMqb8dRHJY-00180-00055385-00055711 the uncertainty in the change points we CnMqb8dRHJY-00181-00055712-00055912 can see this play out here in the rodent CnMqb8dRHJY-00182-00055913-00056241 data which we've decomposed and then CnMqb8dRHJY-00183-00056242-00056451 analyzed and we see the model has CnMqb8dRHJY-00184-00056452-00056761 selected for change points and there's CnMqb8dRHJY-00185-00056762-00057057 variable SiC licit e the you know the CnMqb8dRHJY-00186-00057058-00057310 strength of the the cycles the magnitude CnMqb8dRHJY-00187-00057311-00057951 between each of these change modes one CnMqb8dRHJY-00188-00057952-00058198 major challenge in fitting this kind of CnMqb8dRHJY-00189-00058199-00058471 model is handling sharp edges and the CnMqb8dRHJY-00190-00058472-00058687 likelihood surface which can cause the CnMqb8dRHJY-00191-00058688-00058903 optimization routines to get stuck in CnMqb8dRHJY-00192-00058904-00059173 suboptimal parameter space like if we CnMqb8dRHJY-00193-00059174-00059325 look at a two-dimensional representation CnMqb8dRHJY-00194-00059326-00059682 here where we have these high density CnMqb8dRHJY-00195-00059683-00060010 areas that are gray you can have CnMqb8dRHJY-00196-00060011-00060387 multiple local optimum Optima that the CnMqb8dRHJY-00197-00060388-00060576 search algorithm could get stuck in and CnMqb8dRHJY-00198-00060577-00060934 to address this we use a modeling CnMqb8dRHJY-00199-00060935-00061101 approach known as parallel tempering CnMqb8dRHJY-00200-00061102-00061581 Markov chain Monte Carlo PT and CMC over CnMqb8dRHJY-00201-00061582-00061765 the top of the multinomial progression CnMqb8dRHJY-00202-00061766-00062253 within each segment of the model and CnMqb8dRHJY-00203-00062254-00062629 we're able to use this method to explore CnMqb8dRHJY-00204-00062629-00062907 the parameter space and get unstuck CnMqb8dRHJY-00205-00062908-00063349 because PT MCMC includes these auxilary CnMqb8dRHJY-00206-00063350-00063703 chains to the search algorithm that are CnMqb8dRHJY-00207-00063704-00064024 hotter and are able to then explore the CnMqb8dRHJY-00208-00064025-00064380 parameter space better this methodology CnMqb8dRHJY-00209-00064381-00064624 allows us to get unstuck and a much CnMqb8dRHJY-00210-00064625-00064844 better search than parameter space in CnMqb8dRHJY-00211-00064845-00065094 the context of change points in CnMqb8dRHJY-00212-00065095-00065440 particular we've coated the application CnMqb8dRHJY-00213-00065441-00065728 of PT MCMC for L that's within the CnMqb8dRHJY-00214-00065729-00065959 package itself to make it easy for folks CnMqb8dRHJY-00215-00065960-00066154 driving the truck and I have to worry CnMqb8dRHJY-00216-00066155-00066454 about the horses and again we've got CnMqb8dRHJY-00217-00066455-00066715 this idea with the other package that CnMqb8dRHJY-00218-00066716-00066979 you have this top level API where the CnMqb8dRHJY-00219-00066980-00067174 user can simply run this CnMqb8dRHJY-00220-00067175-00067563 Lda underscore TS function and have it CnMqb8dRHJY-00221-00067564-00068065 do a full suite of analyses so notably CnMqb8dRHJY-00222-00068066-00068440 users can run compare and select from CnMqb8dRHJY-00223-00068441-00068661 multiple models from a single model call CnMqb8dRHJY-00224-00068662-00068937 or single function call using for CnMqb8dRHJY-00225-00068938-00069217 example the formulas or and change point CnMqb8dRHJY-00226-00069218-00069553 arguments they're all fully factored and CnMqb8dRHJY-00227-00069554-00069807 that allows a user to have one function CnMqb8dRHJY-00228-00069808-00070106 call all the details of the algorithm CnMqb8dRHJY-00229-00070107-00070476 the search algorithm parameters etc are CnMqb8dRHJY-00230-00070477-00070771 handled in control lists which allows us CnMqb8dRHJY-00231-00070772-00071151 to have a very robust API that has CnMqb8dRHJY-00232-00071152-00071469 relatively few arguments there will be CnMqb8dRHJY-00233-00071470-00071775 one backwards compatibility breaking CnMqb8dRHJY-00234-00071776-00072085 change coming up in version 0.3 point o CnMqb8dRHJY-00235-00072086-00072334 where we generalized than one of the CnMqb8dRHJY-00236-00072335-00072586 names of the arguments from n seeds to CnMqb8dRHJY-00237-00072587-00072796 replicants but otherwise we don't CnMqb8dRHJY-00238-00072797-00073060 anticipate the top level API changing in CnMqb8dRHJY-00239-00073061-00073662 the future the package comes with a set CnMqb8dRHJY-00240-00073663-00073938 of vignettes one that shows a full CnMqb8dRHJY-00241-00073939-00074142 application of the package soup to nuts CnMqb8dRHJY-00242-00074143-00074653 the simple analyses one that shows a CnMqb8dRHJY-00243-00074654-00074899 comparison of the current methodology in CnMqb8dRHJY-00244-00074900-00075126 the package to what was done and CnMqb8dRHJY-00245-00075127-00075282 published in the Krishna cinahl paper CnMqb8dRHJY-00246-00075283-00075571 and then the third vignette the details CnMqb8dRHJY-00247-00075572-00075972 all of the package underlying the hood CnMqb8dRHJY-00248-00075973-00076206 for folks that are interested in seeing CnMqb8dRHJY-00249-00076207-00076449 through how all of the parts of the CnMqb8dRHJY-00250-00076450-00076671 model are put together computationally CnMqb8dRHJY-00251-00076672-00076921 these vignettes are part of the package CnMqb8dRHJY-00252-00076922-00077181 on cran and are also included on the CnMqb8dRHJY-00253-00077182-00077329 package website which is part of the CnMqb8dRHJY-00254-00077330-00077790 github Dayal and is hyper Island in the CnMqb8dRHJY-00255-00077791-00078117 presentation I don't have time obviously CnMqb8dRHJY-00256-00078118-00078466 to delve too deeply into the package but CnMqb8dRHJY-00257-00078467-00078624 I did want to highlight some important CnMqb8dRHJY-00258-00078625-00078829 functionality and the ancillary is CnMqb8dRHJY-00259-00078830-00079325 within it for example the Alves function CnMqb8dRHJY-00260-00079326-00079626 computes a number of internal summaries CnMqb8dRHJY-00261-00079627-00079932 that are available via a simple list CnMqb8dRHJY-00262-00079933-00080224 component selection so here we have an L CnMqb8dRHJY-00263-00080225-00080388 data model that's run and we want to CnMqb8dRHJY-00264-00080389-00080472 look at row CnMqb8dRHJY-00265-00080473-00080709 is the change point location and we get CnMqb8dRHJY-00266-00080710-00081032 a MCMC table that describes the change CnMqb8dRHJY-00267-00081033-00081401 point parameters similarly we can look CnMqb8dRHJY-00268-00081402-00081792 at Etta which are the regressors between CnMqb8dRHJY-00269-00081793-00082006 the change points and because it's CnMqb8dRHJY-00270-00082007-00082215 multivariate model we have a lot of CnMqb8dRHJY-00271-00082216-00082599 parameters here but we get a nice simple CnMqb8dRHJY-00272-00082600-00083265 summary table similarly we have a CnMqb8dRHJY-00273-00083266-00083493 top-level plotting functionality that CnMqb8dRHJY-00274-00083494-00083807 just run you just run plot on object CnMqb8dRHJY-00275-00083808-00084019 that comes out from the model you get CnMqb8dRHJY-00276-00084020-00084326 figures that are akin to what's in the CnMqb8dRHJY-00277-00084327-00084504 Christians and in all paper the CnMqb8dRHJY-00278-00084505-00084681 decomposition on the left and the CnMqb8dRHJY-00279-00084682-00085328 analysis of the time series on the right CnMqb8dRHJY-00280-00085329-00085581 now what I just showed here is what's CnMqb8dRHJY-00281-00085582-00085850 available in version 0.2 point 7 of CnMqb8dRHJY-00282-00085851-00086034 albats which is presently available on CnMqb8dRHJY-00283-00086035-00086481 cran very well tested it's archived on CnMqb8dRHJY-00284-00086482-00086550 sonoda CnMqb8dRHJY-00285-00086551-00086718 but like I said we're also doing a lot CnMqb8dRHJY-00286-00086719-00086985 of active development this is on github CnMqb8dRHJY-00287-00086986-00087362 as a work-in-progress PR right now we're CnMqb8dRHJY-00288-00087363-00087597 including additional aspects of CnMqb8dRHJY-00289-00087598-00087905 simulation of data the predict CnMqb8dRHJY-00290-00087906-00088112 functionality is going to be introduced CnMqb8dRHJY-00291-00088113-00088365 in this next version and a really big CnMqb8dRHJY-00292-00088366-00088628 addition is flexible model selection CnMqb8dRHJY-00293-00088629-00088982 methodology for example via holdout CnMqb8dRHJY-00294-00088983-00089424 cross validation methods a lot of this CnMqb8dRHJY-00295-00089425-00089651 development of the next stage of L debts CnMqb8dRHJY-00296-00089652-00089963 is being driven by this larger project CnMqb8dRHJY-00297-00089964-00090216 known as Matz which stands for macro CnMqb8dRHJY-00298-00090217-00090435 ecological analyses of time-series CnMqb8dRHJY-00299-00090436-00090759 structure and it the math project gives CnMqb8dRHJY-00300-00090760-00091031 us a massive compendium of ecological CnMqb8dRHJY-00301-00091032-00091244 time series that we can use to evaluate CnMqb8dRHJY-00302-00091245-00091479 the presence of regime shifts very CnMqb8dRHJY-00303-00091480-00091710 broadly speaking but it also allows us CnMqb8dRHJY-00304-00091711-00092022 to test the robustness of our package CnMqb8dRHJY-00305-00092023-00092253 and so we're currently applying the CnMqb8dRHJY-00306-00092254-00092496 methodology to a whole suite of data CnMqb8dRHJY-00307-00092497-00092724 sets to see where it fails and where it CnMqb8dRHJY-00308-00092725-00093038 succeeds if you're interested in joining CnMqb8dRHJY-00309-00093039-00093405 our team working on l decks we are more CnMqb8dRHJY-00310-00093406-00093619 than happy to have you jump on board CnMqb8dRHJY-00311-00093620-00093846 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published in D1A1vzVvwhU-00050-00013626-00014233 french spanish and polish D1A1vzVvwhU-00051-00014234-00014721 topic greenbook D1A1vzVvwhU-00052-00014722-00015003 quantities units and symbols in physical D1A1vzVvwhU-00053-00015004-00015197 chemistry commonly known as the green D1A1vzVvwhU-00054-00015199-00015396 book is a compilation of terms and D1A1vzVvwhU-00055-00015397-00015582 symbols widely used in the field of D1A1vzVvwhU-00056-00015583-00015858 physical chemistry it also includes a D1A1vzVvwhU-00057-00015859-00016071 table of physical constants tables D1A1vzVvwhU-00058-00016072-00016251 listing the properties of elementary D1A1vzVvwhU-00059-00016252-00016491 particles chemical elements and nuclides D1A1vzVvwhU-00060-00016492-00016719 and information about conversion factors D1A1vzVvwhU-00061-00016720-00016881 that are commonly used in physical D1A1vzVvwhU-00062-00016882-00017148 chemistry the most recent addition as D1A1vzVvwhU-00063-00017149-00017415 the third edition ISBN nine seven eight D1A1vzVvwhU-00064-00017416-00017673 oh eight five four oh four four three D1A1vzVvwhU-00065-00017674-00017904 three seven originally published by D1A1vzVvwhU-00066-00017905-00018309 IUPAC in 2007 a second printing of the D1A1vzVvwhU-00067-00018310-00018558 third edition was released in 2008 this D1A1vzVvwhU-00068-00018559-00018771 printing made several minor revisions to D1A1vzVvwhU-00069-00018772-00019086 the 2007 text a third printing of the D1A1vzVvwhU-00070-00019087-00019395 third edition was released in 2011 the D1A1vzVvwhU-00071-00019396-00019602 text of the third printing is identical D1A1vzVvwhU-00072-00019603-00020203 to that of the second printing D1A1vzVvwhU-00073-00020204-00020701 topic orange book D1A1vzVvwhU-00074-00020702-00020899 the compendium of analytical D1A1vzVvwhU-00075-00020900-00021100 nomenclature as a book published by the D1A1vzVvwhU-00076-00021101-00021316 International Union of pure and applied D1A1vzVvwhU-00077-00021317-00021541 chemistry IUPAC containing D1A1vzVvwhU-00078-00021542-00021757 internationally accepted definitions for D1A1vzVvwhU-00079-00021758-00022024 terms in analytical chemistry it has D1A1vzVvwhU-00080-00022025-00022189 traditionally been published in an D1A1vzVvwhU-00081-00022190-00022411 orange cover hence its informal name the D1A1vzVvwhU-00082-00022412-00022669 orange book although the book is D1A1vzVvwhU-00083-00022670-00022978 described as the definitive rules there D1A1vzVvwhU-00084-00022979-00023167 have been three editions published the D1A1vzVvwhU-00085-00023168-00023737 first in 1978 ISBN Oh Oh 802 200 8 8 the D1A1vzVvwhU-00086-00023738-00024127 second in 1987 ISBN oh six three two oh D1A1vzVvwhU-00087-00024128-00024418 one nine oh seven seven and the third in D1A1vzVvwhU-00088-00024419-00024808 1998 is B and O eight six five four two D1A1vzVvwhU-00089-00024809-00025150 six one five five the third edition is D1A1vzVvwhU-00090-00025151-00025390 also available online a Catalan D1A1vzVvwhU-00091-00025391-00025699 translation has also been published 1987 D1A1vzVvwhU-00092-00025700-00025953 ISBN eight four seven two eight three D1A1vzVvwhU-00093-00025954-00026623 one two one three D1A1vzVvwhU-00094-00026624-00027108 topic purple book D1A1vzVvwhU-00095-00027110-00027343 the first edition of the compendium of D1A1vzVvwhU-00096-00027344-00027529 macromolecular terminology and D1A1vzVvwhU-00097-00027530-00027718 nomenclature known as the purple book D1A1vzVvwhU-00098-00027719-00027976 was published in 1991 and is now out of D1A1vzVvwhU-00099-00027977-00028231 print it is about the nomenclature of D1A1vzVvwhU-00100-00028232-00028746 polymers D1A1vzVvwhU-00101-00028747-00029249 topic read book D1A1vzVvwhU-00102-00029250-00029505 nomenclature of inorganic chemistry by D1A1vzVvwhU-00103-00029506-00029706 chemists commonly referred to as the red D1A1vzVvwhU-00104-00029707-00029913 book is a collection of recommendations D1A1vzVvwhU-00105-00029914-00030213 on inorganic chemical nomenclature it is D1A1vzVvwhU-00106-00030214-00030402 published at irregular intervals by the D1A1vzVvwhU-00107-00030403-00030588 International Union of pure and applied D1A1vzVvwhU-00108-00030589-00030972 chemistry IUPAC the last full edition D1A1vzVvwhU-00109-00030973-00031260 was published in 2005 in both paper and D1A1vzVvwhU-00110-00031261-00031868 electronic versions D1A1vzVvwhU-00111-00031869-00032369 topic silver book D1A1vzVvwhU-00112-00032370-00032693 the IUPAC also publishes a silver book D1A1vzVvwhU-00113-00032694-00032921 not listed with the other color books D1A1vzVvwhU-00114-00032922-00033188 titled compendium of terminology and D1A1vzVvwhU-00115-00033189-00033422 nomenclature of properties in clinical D1A1vzVvwhU-00116-00033423-00034026 laboratory sciences D1A1vzVvwhU-00117-00034027-00034512 topic white book D1A1vzVvwhU-00118-00034513-00034785 the biochemical nomenclature and related D1A1vzVvwhU-00119-00034786-00035085 documents 1992 or white book contains D1A1vzVvwhU-00120-00035086-00035313 definitions pertaining to biochemical D1A1vzVvwhU-00121-00035314-00035586 research compiled jointly by IUPAC and D1A1vzVvwhU-00122-00035587-00035745 the International Union of biochemistry D1A1vzVvwhU-00123-00035746-00036437 and molecular biology D1A1vzVvwhU-00124-00036438-00036991 topic see also D1A1vzVvwhU-00125-00036992-00037226 International Union of pure and applied D1A1vzVvwhU-00126-00037227-00037607 chemistry nomenclature IUPAC polymer D1A1vzVvwhU-00127-00037608-00037883 nomenclature nomenclature of organic D1A1vzVvwhU-00128-00037884-00038237 chemistry the Bluebook nomenclature of D1A1vzVvwhU-00129-00038238-00038500 inorganic chemistry the red book D1A1vzVvwhU-00130-00038501-00038786 quantities units and symbols in physical D1A1vzVvwhU-00131-00038787-00039101 chemistry the green book compendium of D1A1vzVvwhU-00132-00039102-00039521 analytical nomenclature the orange book D3iTtbx2BjE-00000-00000014-00000359 the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2012 D3iTtbx2BjE-00001-00000360-00000655 III 2012 was the 18th Electronic D3iTtbx2BjE-00002-00000656-00000956 Entertainment Expo held the event took D3iTtbx2BjE-00003-00000957-00001118 place at the Los Angeles Convention D3iTtbx2BjE-00004-00001119-00001453 Center in Los Angeles California it D3iTtbx2BjE-00005-00001454-00001757 began on June 5th 2012 and ended on June D3iTtbx2BjE-00006-00001757-00002188 7th 2012 with 45,000 700 total attendees D3iTtbx2BjE-00007-00002189-00002495 it was televised on Spike and streamed D3iTtbx2BjE-00008-00002496-00002718 online to computers mobile devices D3iTtbx2BjE-00009-00002719-00002990 PlayStation Home and on Xbox Live Fire D3iTtbx2BjE-00010-00002991-00003299 IGN's application this was the last D3iTtbx2BjE-00011-00003300-00004127 event to be broadcast by g4 topic press D3iTtbx2BjE-00012-00004128-00004745 conferences prior to the show several D3iTtbx2BjE-00013-00004746-00004904 companies made announcements regarding D3iTtbx2BjE-00014-00004905-00005218 their products Nintendo unveiled a new D3iTtbx2BjE-00015-00005219-00005443 design for the Wii U controller known D3iTtbx2BjE-00016-00005444-00005654 now as the Wii U gamepad along with a D3iTtbx2BjE-00017-00005655-00005942 slightly modified console each of the D3iTtbx2BjE-00018-00005943-00006184 three major console producers have also D3iTtbx2BjE-00019-00006185-00006941 held or planned press conferences topic D3iTtbx2BjE-00020-00006942-00007577 Konami konami held its second annual pre D3iTtbx2BjE-00021-00007578-00008421 III show on may 31st 2012 topic D3iTtbx2BjE-00022-00008422-00009031 microsoft Microsoft's press conference D3iTtbx2BjE-00023-00009032-00009326 took place on June 4 2012 at 9:30 a.m. D3iTtbx2BjE-00024-00009327-00009727 PDT in the Galen Center it was known as D3iTtbx2BjE-00025-00009728-00010091 Xbox entertainment evolved in the vein D3iTtbx2BjE-00026-00010092-00010373 of halo combat Evolved it was streamed D3iTtbx2BjE-00027-00010374-00010656 on Xbox Live and played live on Spike TV D3iTtbx2BjE-00028-00010657-00010946 at the conference the company showed D3iTtbx2BjE-00029-00010947-00011180 footage from upcoming sequels halo 4 D3iTtbx2BjE-00030-00011181-00011456 call of duty black ops 2 and Resident D3iTtbx2BjE-00031-00011457-00011785 Evil 6 it also showed new entries in D3iTtbx2BjE-00032-00011786-00012010 classic franchises including the games D3iTtbx2BjE-00033-00012011-00012313 Tomb Raider falsi horizon South Park the D3iTtbx2BjE-00034-00012314-00012617 stick of truth and many others it also D3iTtbx2BjE-00035-00012618-00012815 announced new intellectual property D3iTtbx2BjE-00036-00012816-00013116 including ascend new gods and Loco cycle D3iTtbx2BjE-00037-00013118-00013372 the company expanded its kin D3iTtbx2BjE-00038-00013374-00013569 line up with several new titles D3iTtbx2BjE-00039-00013571-00013819 entertainer uh she made an appearance to D3iTtbx2BjE-00040-00013821-00014051 demonstrate the Dance Central 3 dancing D3iTtbx2BjE-00041-00014052-00014318 game a castle wrecking game called D3iTtbx2BjE-00042-00014319-00014579 record here was also demonstrated matter D3iTtbx2BjE-00043-00014580-00014891 an Xbox 360 exclusive title for the D3iTtbx2BjE-00044-00014891-00015257 Kinect was also shown Microsoft also D3iTtbx2BjE-00045-00015258-00015455 unveiled expanded entertainment and D3iTtbx2BjE-00046-00015456-00015790 multimedia features for the Xbox 360 the D3iTtbx2BjE-00047-00015791-00016046 company announced new sports content D3iTtbx2BjE-00048-00016047-00016241 partnerships including those with the D3iTtbx2BjE-00049-00016241-00016508 National Basketball Association National D3iTtbx2BjE-00050-00016509-00016736 Hockey League and ESPN to bring their D3iTtbx2BjE-00051-00016737-00017057 content to the console Xbox music was D3iTtbx2BjE-00052-00017058-00017288 also revealed which will carry the Xbox D3iTtbx2BjE-00053-00017289-00017576 brand to Windows 8 the company unveiled D3iTtbx2BjE-00054-00017577-00017819 Internet Explorer 10 for the console D3iTtbx2BjE-00055-00017820-00018002 which can be controlled via tablet D3iTtbx2BjE-00056-00018003-00018344 devices the console maker also announced D3iTtbx2BjE-00057-00018345-00018620 Xbox SmartGlass a technology designed to D3iTtbx2BjE-00058-00018621-00018824 allow play experiences from mobile D3iTtbx2BjE-00059-00018825-00019055 devices including those running Windows D3iTtbx2BjE-00060-00019056-00019768 8 and Windows Phone operating systems D3iTtbx2BjE-00061-00019769-00020438 topic Electronic Arts Electronic Arts D3iTtbx2BjE-00062-00020439-00020648 took the stage on June 4th at 1:00 p.m. D3iTtbx2BjE-00063-00020649-00021008 PDT showcasing ten titles or families of D3iTtbx2BjE-00064-00021009-00021275 titles included were games such as D3iTtbx2BjE-00065-00021276-00021557 Crysis 3 dead space 3 Medal of Honor D3iTtbx2BjE-00066-00021558-00021839 Warfighter Need for Speed Most Wanted in D3iTtbx2BjE-00067-00021840-00022363 SimCity D3iTtbx2BjE-00068-00022364-00023051 Topic ubisoft ubisoft held a press D3iTtbx2BjE-00069-00023052-00023305 conference on June 4th at 3 p.m. PDT D3iTtbx2BjE-00070-00023306-00023588 showing many titles including Assassin's D3iTtbx2BjE-00071-00023589-00023927 Creed 3 Far Cry 3 Just Dance 4 Rayman D3iTtbx2BjE-00072-00023928-00023993 legends D3iTtbx2BjE-00073-00023994-00024199 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell blacklist D3iTtbx2BjE-00074-00024200-00025409 watchdogs and zombie u topic Sony Sony's D3iTtbx2BjE-00075-00025410-00025631 press conference took place on June 4th D3iTtbx2BjE-00076-00025632-00025880 at 6 p.m. PDT at the Los Angeles D3iTtbx2BjE-00077-00025881-00026207 Memorial sports arena Sony and its D3iTtbx2BjE-00078-00026208-00026420 partners showcased existing titles D3iTtbx2BjE-00079-00026420-00026665 including first party games such as God D3iTtbx2BjE-00080-00026666-00026744 of War as D3iTtbx2BjE-00081-00026745-00026920 Inchon PlayStation all-stars battle D3iTtbx2BjE-00082-00026922-00027149 royal in the Last of Us in third-party D3iTtbx2BjE-00083-00027150-00027413 games such as Assassin's Creed 3 and Far D3iTtbx2BjE-00084-00027414-00027782 Cry 3 Sony also announced a new title D3iTtbx2BjE-00085-00027783-00028177 called beyond two souls Sony provided D3iTtbx2BjE-00086-00028179-00028402 updates on the PlayStation suite mobile D3iTtbx2BjE-00087-00028404-00028601 framework renaming it to PlayStation D3iTtbx2BjE-00088-00028602-00028943 mobile and adding HTC as a partner it D3iTtbx2BjE-00089-00028944-00029158 also unveiled the wonderbook augmented D3iTtbx2BjE-00090-00029160-00030232 reality reading system topic Nintendo D3iTtbx2BjE-00091-00030233-00030479 Nintendo's main press conference took D3iTtbx2BjE-00092-00030480-00030770 place on June 5th at 9:00 a.m. PDT in D3iTtbx2BjE-00093-00030770-00031102 the Nokia Theatre the company showed 23 D3iTtbx2BjE-00094-00031104-00031364 Wii U titles including first party games D3iTtbx2BjE-00095-00031364-00031683 like Pikmin 3 and New Super Mario Bros u D3iTtbx2BjE-00096-00031685-00032006 and third-party games like Batman Arkham D3iTtbx2BjE-00097-00032007-00032252 City armored Edition Scribblenauts D3iTtbx2BjE-00098-00032252-00032561 unlimited and zombie you the company D3iTtbx2BjE-00099-00032562-00032810 also showed more casual games including D3iTtbx2BjE-00100-00032811-00033113 Wii Fit u and Nintendo land the D3iTtbx2BjE-00101-00033114-00033395 following day June 6th Nintendo held a D3iTtbx2BjE-00102-00033396-00033731 smaller software showcase conference D3iTtbx2BjE-00103-00033732-00033946 based solely on the Nintendo 3ds D3iTtbx2BjE-00104-00033947-00034193 showcasing new content and games such as D3iTtbx2BjE-00105-00034194-00034454 New Super Mario Bros 2 Paper Mario D3iTtbx2BjE-00106-00034455-00034739 sticker star and Luigi's Mansion dark D3iTtbx2BjE-00107-00034740-00036248 moon topic list of notable exhibitors D3iTtbx2BjE-00108-00036249-00036992 topic 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D6QXUpTFbDg-00025-00007768-00008095 where i want and for how long i want D6QXUpTFbDg-00026-00008095-00008183 but D6QXUpTFbDg-00027-00008184-00008367 you already know that because you D6QXUpTFbDg-00028-00008368-00008710 obviously following me on instagram D6QXUpTFbDg-00029-00008711-00008895 you see success D6QXUpTFbDg-00030-00008896-00009046 is my first D6QXUpTFbDg-00031-00009047-00009167 last D6QXUpTFbDg-00032-00009168-00009391 and middle name D6QXUpTFbDg-00033-00009392-00009527 yes D6QXUpTFbDg-00034-00009528-00009678 you've guessed it D6QXUpTFbDg-00035-00009679-00009935 i'm an entrepreneur D6QXUpTFbDg-00036-00009936-00010446 and i'm living the dream D6QXUpTFbDg-00037-00010447-00010599 it's funny D6QXUpTFbDg-00038-00010600-00010903 because it almost sounds true D6QXUpTFbDg-00039-00010904-00011238 and it makes me wonder who is that guy D6QXUpTFbDg-00040-00011239-00011342 well D6QXUpTFbDg-00041-00011343-00011495 that's me D6QXUpTFbDg-00042-00011496-00011599 at least D6QXUpTFbDg-00043-00011600-00011774 that's what you would think D6QXUpTFbDg-00044-00011775-00012023 if you looked at my social media feed D6QXUpTFbDg-00045-00012024-00012278 you see we're currently writing a way D6QXUpTFbDg-00046-00012279-00012567 where entrepreneurship is hip D6QXUpTFbDg-00047-00012568-00012799 and like any fad when it doesn't go to D6QXUpTFbDg-00048-00012800-00012886 plan D6QXUpTFbDg-00049-00012887-00013191 it's really easy to put a brave face D6QXUpTFbDg-00050-00013191-00013447 keep up appearances and pretend like D6QXUpTFbDg-00051-00013447-00013622 you're successful even if you have no D6QXUpTFbDg-00052-00013623-00013879 idea what you're doing D6QXUpTFbDg-00053-00013880-00014119 but when did it become cool to become an D6QXUpTFbDg-00054-00014119-00014247 entrepreneur D6QXUpTFbDg-00055-00014247-00014607 in fact who here runs a business D6QXUpTFbDg-00056-00014608-00014886 do you feel cool D6QXUpTFbDg-00057-00014887-00015038 because i don't know about you D6QXUpTFbDg-00058-00015040-00015279 but i do not feel cool D6QXUpTFbDg-00059-00015280-00015503 in fact most of the time D6QXUpTFbDg-00060-00015504-00015719 i feel lonely D6QXUpTFbDg-00061-00015719-00015830 i worry D6QXUpTFbDg-00062-00015831-00016143 i stress about money on a daily basis D6QXUpTFbDg-00063-00016144-00016430 and this was so not meant to be the plan D6QXUpTFbDg-00064-00016431-00016703 you see about a year ago almost to the D6QXUpTFbDg-00065-00016704-00016815 day D6QXUpTFbDg-00066-00016816-00017079 i quit a job after spending a decade D6QXUpTFbDg-00067-00017080-00017350 working across the corporate sector D6QXUpTFbDg-00068-00017351-00017527 the not-for-profit and the charity D6QXUpTFbDg-00069-00017528-00017791 sector thinking D6QXUpTFbDg-00070-00017792-00018030 that if i quit my job everything i ever D6QXUpTFbDg-00071-00018031-00018230 dreamed for in life would come true D6QXUpTFbDg-00072-00018231-00018447 because obviously being your own boss D6QXUpTFbDg-00073-00018448-00018647 means that you have the flexibility D6QXUpTFbDg-00074-00018648-00018758 freedom D6QXUpTFbDg-00075-00018759-00019055 and success is bottomless D6QXUpTFbDg-00076-00019056-00019255 well it wasn't the case D6QXUpTFbDg-00077-00019256-00019486 you see maybe what it looks like on the D6QXUpTFbDg-00078-00019487-00019719 outside through all my podcasts and D6QXUpTFbDg-00079-00019720-00019863 youtube videos D6QXUpTFbDg-00080-00019864-00020047 it looks like i'm having a ball at a D6QXUpTFbDg-00081-00020048-00020158 time D6QXUpTFbDg-00082-00020159-00020335 but i actually spend eighty percent of D6QXUpTFbDg-00083-00020336-00020439 my time D6QXUpTFbDg-00084-00020440-00020678 staring nothing but a screen D6QXUpTFbDg-00085-00020679-00020878 and sometimes i don't even bother D6QXUpTFbDg-00086-00020879-00021022 leaving the flat D6QXUpTFbDg-00087-00021023-00021255 or wash D6QXUpTFbDg-00088-00021256-00021383 but don't tell my girlfriend that D6QXUpTFbDg-00089-00021384-00021719 because she thinks i do D6QXUpTFbDg-00090-00021720-00021958 and this this got me thinking D6QXUpTFbDg-00091-00021959-00022135 it's it's the same thing that when my D6QXUpTFbDg-00092-00022136-00022375 friends call me up and say hey mark do D6QXUpTFbDg-00093-00022376-00022558 you want to catch up for a beer and i D6QXUpTFbDg-00094-00022559-00022799 say i'm sorry i've got other plans i'm D6QXUpTFbDg-00095-00022800-00022999 busy D6QXUpTFbDg-00096-00023000-00023175 but i'm not busy D6QXUpTFbDg-00097-00023176-00023391 i'm just really really worried about how D6QXUpTFbDg-00098-00023392-00023639 my business is actually doing D6QXUpTFbDg-00099-00023640-00023999 and so i feel like i can't share that D6QXUpTFbDg-00100-00024000-00024207 and this is something that i've seen D6QXUpTFbDg-00101-00024208-00024447 over and over again so i'm the host of D6QXUpTFbDg-00102-00024448-00024630 the most unpronounceable podcast ever D6QXUpTFbDg-00103-00024631-00024871 known to mankind as dyslexic i could D6QXUpTFbDg-00104-00024872-00025055 have picked a better name D6QXUpTFbDg-00105-00025056-00025294 the unconventionalists and effectively D6QXUpTFbDg-00106-00025295-00025463 what it is i get to speak to a whole D6QXUpTFbDg-00107-00025464-00025687 bunch of really exciting people from all D6QXUpTFbDg-00108-00025688-00025822 walks of life who've experienced D6QXUpTFbDg-00109-00025823-00026046 different levels of success D6QXUpTFbDg-00110-00026047-00026214 and let me tell you this D6QXUpTFbDg-00111-00026216-00026439 it doesn't matter if you're a one-man D6QXUpTFbDg-00112-00026439-00026695 band or if you're a business with a D6QXUpTFbDg-00113-00026695-00026895 thousand employees if you have a hundred D6QXUpTFbDg-00114-00026895-00027255 followers or if you have a million D6QXUpTFbDg-00115-00027256-00027535 the resounding feeling is how tough the D6QXUpTFbDg-00116-00027536-00027790 journey is and how lonely it can D6QXUpTFbDg-00117-00027791-00028046 sometimes feel D6QXUpTFbDg-00118-00028047-00028279 now if you look at the statistics it's D6QXUpTFbDg-00119-00028280-00028551 pretty scary out of the 5.5 million D6QXUpTFbDg-00120-00028552-00028718 businesses in the uk D6QXUpTFbDg-00121-00028719-00028855 76 D6QXUpTFbDg-00122-00028856-00029062 of them were started by people who D6QXUpTFbDg-00123-00029063-00029311 employ no one but themselves D6QXUpTFbDg-00124-00029312-00029495 so it's a pretty lonesome journey to D6QXUpTFbDg-00125-00029495-00029702 save the leaf for almost three quarters D6QXUpTFbDg-00126-00029704-00029823 of us D6QXUpTFbDg-00127-00029824-00029983 and yet we feel like we can't open up D6QXUpTFbDg-00128-00029983-00030151 and talk about it D6QXUpTFbDg-00129-00030152-00030262 because D6QXUpTFbDg-00130-00030263-00030399 we've made up D6QXUpTFbDg-00131-00030400-00030535 that tears D6QXUpTFbDg-00132-00030536-00030711 don't sell D6QXUpTFbDg-00133-00030712-00030823 and so D6QXUpTFbDg-00134-00030824-00031031 we live with this dirty little secret D6QXUpTFbDg-00135-00031032-00031279 except this secret is something that D6QXUpTFbDg-00136-00031280-00031479 everyone who's ever started a business D6QXUpTFbDg-00137-00031480-00031767 knows oh too well D6QXUpTFbDg-00138-00031768-00032039 and i started thinking D6QXUpTFbDg-00139-00032039-00032318 if you look at the statistics D6QXUpTFbDg-00140-00032319-00032567 and you look at company house data D6QXUpTFbDg-00141-00032568-00032687 it looks like D6QXUpTFbDg-00142-00032688-00032790 actually D6QXUpTFbDg-00143-00032791-00033015 in 2016 it was another record-breaking D6QXUpTFbDg-00144-00033016-00033102 year D6QXUpTFbDg-00145-00033103-00033527 of 75 new businesses every single hour D6QXUpTFbDg-00146-00033528-00033702 that's insane D6QXUpTFbDg-00147-00033703-00033879 bloomberg says that actually eight out D6QXUpTFbDg-00148-00033880-00034023 of ten entrepreneurs failed within the D6QXUpTFbDg-00149-00034024-00034215 first 18 months D6QXUpTFbDg-00150-00034216-00034399 and there was a study by the professor D6QXUpTFbDg-00151-00034400-00034623 michael freenum freeman from the D6QXUpTFbDg-00152-00034624-00034831 university of california that basically D6QXUpTFbDg-00153-00034832-00034935 studied the link between D6QXUpTFbDg-00154-00034936-00035079 entrepreneurship and mental health D6QXUpTFbDg-00155-00035080-00035335 issues and he found that one in three D6QXUpTFbDg-00156-00035336-00035695 entrepreneurs experiences depression D6QXUpTFbDg-00157-00035696-00035862 when the hell did entrepreneurship D6QXUpTFbDg-00158-00035863-00036030 become trendy D6QXUpTFbDg-00159-00036031-00036255 especially when you look 20 years ago D6QXUpTFbDg-00160-00036256-00036479 and it was basically a bunch of geeky D6QXUpTFbDg-00161-00036480-00036790 guys living in a box staring at a screen D6QXUpTFbDg-00162-00036791-00036951 well D6QXUpTFbDg-00163-00036952-00037055 you see D6QXUpTFbDg-00164-00037056-00037255 when i quit movember D6QXUpTFbDg-00165-00037256-00037390 i thought D6QXUpTFbDg-00166-00037391-00037615 that everything was going to come to me D6QXUpTFbDg-00167-00037616-00037767 i could have never imagined that after D6QXUpTFbDg-00168-00037768-00037967 spending four years in a dream job as D6QXUpTFbDg-00169-00037968-00038190 country manager raising 2.8 million D6QXUpTFbDg-00170-00038191-00038374 euros for men's self hobnobbing with D6QXUpTFbDg-00171-00038375-00038535 celebrities being interviewed on D6QXUpTFbDg-00172-00038536-00038774 national television and being part of D6QXUpTFbDg-00173-00038775-00039062 incredible team all that to start my own D6QXUpTFbDg-00174-00039063-00039359 business would be so tough and lonely D6QXUpTFbDg-00175-00039360-00039774 so when my friends and family ask me so D6QXUpTFbDg-00176-00039775-00039999 how are things going D6QXUpTFbDg-00177-00040000-00040118 i smile D6QXUpTFbDg-00178-00040119-00040551 i grind my teeth and i say great D6QXUpTFbDg-00179-00040552-00040799 when really what i want to say is this D6QXUpTFbDg-00180-00040800-00040958 is the toughest thing i've ever done in D6QXUpTFbDg-00181-00040959-00041062 my life D6QXUpTFbDg-00182-00041063-00041246 i'm really struggling D6QXUpTFbDg-00183-00041247-00041455 and if you can relate to this situation D6QXUpTFbDg-00184-00041456-00041671 i want you to know that actually D6QXUpTFbDg-00185-00041672-00041839 being vulnerable and telling your D6QXUpTFbDg-00186-00041840-00042007 friends that you're hurting is the best D6QXUpTFbDg-00187-00042008-00042255 way for them to know you need help D6QXUpTFbDg-00188-00042256-00042439 and i know that's scary D6QXUpTFbDg-00189-00042440-00042662 but instead i've been guilty of putting D6QXUpTFbDg-00190-00042663-00042918 up a mask and feeding the myth D6QXUpTFbDg-00191-00042919-00043095 that being an entrepreneur and living D6QXUpTFbDg-00192-00043096-00043311 the entrepreneurial lifestyle D6QXUpTFbDg-00193-00043312-00043630 is the lifestyle we should all aspire to D6QXUpTFbDg-00194-00043631-00043815 and that got me thinking surely there D6QXUpTFbDg-00195-00043816-00044062 must be a reason why so many people are D6QXUpTFbDg-00196-00044063-00044311 thinking about starting their business D6QXUpTFbDg-00197-00044312-00044551 well D6QXUpTFbDg-00198-00044552-00044758 i think this is my opinion D6QXUpTFbDg-00199-00044759-00044927 that because of the thanks the rise of D6QXUpTFbDg-00200-00044928-00045102 the superstar entrepreneur including D6QXUpTFbDg-00201-00045103-00045462 elon musk richard branson and steve jobs D6QXUpTFbDg-00202-00045463-00045671 the rise of the superstar entrepreneur D6QXUpTFbDg-00203-00045672-00045846 has given birth D6QXUpTFbDg-00204-00045847-00046102 to the new aspiring celebrity of the D6QXUpTFbDg-00205-00046103-00046279 21st century D6QXUpTFbDg-00206-00046280-00046543 social media and front cover magazines D6QXUpTFbDg-00207-00046544-00046767 have labeled it that make it sound sexy D6QXUpTFbDg-00208-00046768-00046967 and they make it sound cool and you know D6QXUpTFbDg-00209-00046968-00047102 what it is D6QXUpTFbDg-00210-00047103-00047383 it feeds into our need to be recognized D6QXUpTFbDg-00211-00047384-00047646 to be famous to be rich D6QXUpTFbDg-00212-00047647-00047783 but is the allure of being an D6QXUpTFbDg-00213-00047784-00047902 entrepreneur D6QXUpTFbDg-00214-00047903-00048143 for the chase of fame and fortune really D6QXUpTFbDg-00215-00048144-00048358 all there is to it D6QXUpTFbDg-00216-00048359-00048479 no D6QXUpTFbDg-00217-00048480-00048695 it goes deeper than that D6QXUpTFbDg-00218-00048696-00048862 consider the gallup study that found D6QXUpTFbDg-00219-00048863-00049023 that 87 D6QXUpTFbDg-00220-00049024-00049255 of workers worldwide feel emotionally D6QXUpTFbDg-00221-00049256-00049502 disengaged from the work they do D6QXUpTFbDg-00222-00049503-00049679 and as a self-proclaimed millennial D6QXUpTFbDg-00223-00049680-00049871 we've got a bit of a pick-off especially D6QXUpTFbDg-00224-00049872-00050015 when you know that millennials are the D6QXUpTFbDg-00225-00050016-00050167 most purpose-driven generation in D6QXUpTFbDg-00226-00050168-00050295 decades D6QXUpTFbDg-00227-00050296-00050430 so there's no denying that we're D6QXUpTFbDg-00228-00050431-00050655 currently facing a crisis at work when D6QXUpTFbDg-00229-00050656-00050999 it comes down to finding purpose D6QXUpTFbDg-00230-00051000-00051287 take a look at this mythical ad of a D6QXUpTFbDg-00231-00051288-00051463 dream job and for those of you at the D6QXUpTFbDg-00232-00051464-00051599 back we can't read it D6QXUpTFbDg-00233-00051600-00051814 men wanted for hazardous journey D6QXUpTFbDg-00234-00051815-00052207 small wages bitter cold long months of D6QXUpTFbDg-00235-00052208-00052519 complete darkness constant danger safe D6QXUpTFbDg-00236-00052520-00052615 return D6QXUpTFbDg-00237-00052616-00052766 doubtful D6QXUpTFbDg-00238-00052767-00052991 honor and recognition D6QXUpTFbDg-00239-00052991-00053238 in case of success D6QXUpTFbDg-00240-00053239-00053511 would you apply to that ad D6QXUpTFbDg-00241-00053512-00053663 well according to the book the hundred D6QXUpTFbDg-00242-00053664-00053830 greatest advertisements D6QXUpTFbDg-00243-00053832-00054126 five thousand men responded to sir D6QXUpTFbDg-00244-00054127-00054319 ernest shackleton's ad ahead of his D6QXUpTFbDg-00245-00054320-00054526 third expedition to the south pole D6QXUpTFbDg-00246-00054527-00054894 endurance in the early 1900s 5 000 D6QXUpTFbDg-00247-00054895-00055023 people D6QXUpTFbDg-00248-00055024-00055159 and you know what else this ad could D6QXUpTFbDg-00249-00055160-00055287 apply to D6QXUpTFbDg-00250-00055288-00055487 you've guessed it pretty much any D6QXUpTFbDg-00251-00055488-00055719 startup or any new business or any bold D6QXUpTFbDg-00252-00055720-00055926 idea you come across D6QXUpTFbDg-00253-00055927-00056135 because the way that he sorted out these D6QXUpTFbDg-00254-00056136-00056319 5 000 applicants was by putting them D6QXUpTFbDg-00255-00056320-00056511 either in mad D6QXUpTFbDg-00256-00056512-00056775 hopeless or possible and if you've ever D6QXUpTFbDg-00257-00056776-00056919 tried anything bold in life you'll know D6QXUpTFbDg-00258-00056920-00057030 what i mean when i say it's very D6QXUpTFbDg-00259-00057032-00057247 difficult to know in which category you D6QXUpTFbDg-00260-00057248-00057479 come across so the question becomes why D6QXUpTFbDg-00261-00057479-00057735 would thousands of people want to join D6QXUpTFbDg-00262-00057736-00058087 sir shackleton down to south pole D6QXUpTFbDg-00263-00058088-00058326 and would this still be applied today D6QXUpTFbDg-00264-00058327-00058519 and if you think it wouldn't D6QXUpTFbDg-00265-00058520-00058711 think again D6QXUpTFbDg-00266-00058712-00058950 mars one a controversial dutch company D6QXUpTFbDg-00267-00058951-00059159 announced in 2013 D6QXUpTFbDg-00268-00059160-00059359 that its mission was to establish a D6QXUpTFbDg-00269-00059360-00059663 permanent human settlement on mars in D6QXUpTFbDg-00270-00059664-00059887 2023 D6QXUpTFbDg-00271-00059888-00060126 two men and two women would originally D6QXUpTFbDg-00272-00060127-00060382 sent and then four more would follow D6QXUpTFbDg-00273-00060383-00060519 every two years D6QXUpTFbDg-00274-00060520-00060742 the catch D6QXUpTFbDg-00275-00060744-00060959 there is no return expected to planet D6QXUpTFbDg-00276-00060960-00061094 earth D6QXUpTFbDg-00277-00061095-00061366 labeled as the one-way ticket to human D6QXUpTFbDg-00278-00061367-00061575 kite's biggest adventure D6QXUpTFbDg-00279-00061576-00061854 more than two hundred 000 people D6QXUpTFbDg-00280-00061855-00062166 registered their interest in 2013. D6QXUpTFbDg-00281-00062167-00062350 that's insane D6QXUpTFbDg-00282-00062351-00062423 so D6QXUpTFbDg-00283-00062424-00062647 actually why would people join sir D6QXUpTFbDg-00284-00062648-00062903 shackleton 100 years ago and the reason D6QXUpTFbDg-00285-00062904-00063150 why hundreds of thousands of people are D6QXUpTFbDg-00286-00063151-00063342 willing to leave everything behind to D6QXUpTFbDg-00287-00063344-00063663 join history to the chase for mars D6QXUpTFbDg-00288-00063664-00063894 is the same reason why so many people D6QXUpTFbDg-00289-00063895-00064071 are attracted to the idea of becoming an D6QXUpTFbDg-00290-00064072-00064247 entrepreneur D6QXUpTFbDg-00291-00064248-00064487 it's a deeper yearning for a sense of D6QXUpTFbDg-00292-00064488-00064638 purpose D6QXUpTFbDg-00293-00064639-00064750 now D6QXUpTFbDg-00294-00064751-00064959 professor steve taylor the senior D6QXUpTFbDg-00295-00064960-00065199 lecturer in psychology at leeds beckett D6QXUpTFbDg-00296-00065200-00065454 university said that not having a sense D6QXUpTFbDg-00297-00065455-00065694 of purpose makes us more vulnerable to D6QXUpTFbDg-00298-00065695-00065831 anxiety D6QXUpTFbDg-00299-00065832-00066055 boredom and depression D6QXUpTFbDg-00300-00066056-00066303 because baked in every single human D6QXUpTFbDg-00301-00066304-00066591 brain from our ancestors fighting off D6QXUpTFbDg-00302-00066592-00066855 saber-toothed tigers to us wrestling a D6QXUpTFbDg-00303-00066856-00067094 really bad wi-fi connection D6QXUpTFbDg-00304-00067095-00067359 we all have a desire for purpose D6QXUpTFbDg-00305-00067360-00067615 it's our thirst for a mission D6QXUpTFbDg-00306-00067616-00067855 it's a yearning for a quest and to D6QXUpTFbDg-00307-00067856-00068038 fulfill it D6QXUpTFbDg-00308-00068039-00068247 psychology science even went as far as D6QXUpTFbDg-00309-00068248-00068638 saying that having a sense of purpose D6QXUpTFbDg-00310-00068639-00068894 gives you a much better chance of having D6QXUpTFbDg-00311-00068895-00069055 a longer life than pretty much anything D6QXUpTFbDg-00312-00069056-00069215 else D6QXUpTFbDg-00313-00069216-00069431 so your life depends on it D6QXUpTFbDg-00314-00069432-00069687 it's a bit of pressure right D6QXUpTFbDg-00315-00069688-00069894 well that kind of pressure is exactly D6QXUpTFbDg-00316-00069895-00070071 where we go wrong about finding your D6QXUpTFbDg-00317-00070072-00070343 purpose you see what really bugs me is D6QXUpTFbDg-00318-00070344-00070519 that people make up that when you talk D6QXUpTFbDg-00319-00070520-00070735 about finding your your meaning of of D6QXUpTFbDg-00320-00070736-00070959 being or your purpose you've got to find D6QXUpTFbDg-00321-00070960-00071159 the meaning of life you've got to find D6QXUpTFbDg-00322-00071160-00071350 the meaning of your life D6QXUpTFbDg-00323-00071351-00071638 and that's a really big ask the way i D6QXUpTFbDg-00324-00071639-00071831 see it is that if it was a thorny issue D6QXUpTFbDg-00325-00071832-00072031 for aristotle then i should probably D6QXUpTFbDg-00326-00072032-00072199 keep it simple D6QXUpTFbDg-00327-00072200-00072375 and if you don't know what a quest is D6QXUpTFbDg-00328-00072376-00072615 and you don't know what purpose is D6QXUpTFbDg-00329-00072616-00072879 look around you they're everywhere D6QXUpTFbDg-00330-00072880-00073071 they're in the books you read D6QXUpTFbDg-00331-00073072-00073247 in the stories you tell D6QXUpTFbDg-00332-00073248-00073599 and the movies you watch D6QXUpTFbDg-00333-00073600-00073806 i've been obsessed with this concept of D6QXUpTFbDg-00334-00073807-00074062 quest and finding a quest D6QXUpTFbDg-00335-00074063-00074238 and i've spoken to hundreds of people D6QXUpTFbDg-00336-00074239-00074447 who started theirs and this is what i've D6QXUpTFbDg-00337-00074448-00074526 learned D6QXUpTFbDg-00338-00074527-00074847 they come in all shapes and sizes D6QXUpTFbDg-00339-00074848-00075047 they're not measured by how impactful D6QXUpTFbDg-00340-00075048-00075271 they are but rather how they make you D6QXUpTFbDg-00341-00075272-00075367 feel D6QXUpTFbDg-00342-00075368-00075550 when you think about them D6QXUpTFbDg-00343-00075551-00075950 when you're actively pursuing them D6QXUpTFbDg-00344-00075951-00076103 i want to give you an example of a D6QXUpTFbDg-00345-00076104-00076287 really small quest what i've come to D6QXUpTFbDg-00346-00076288-00076559 label microquest now you see a few years D6QXUpTFbDg-00347-00076560-00076831 ago i had this really stupid idea to see D6QXUpTFbDg-00348-00076832-00077038 if i could start a drink startup in D6QXUpTFbDg-00349-00077039-00077319 seven days with a hundred pounds D6QXUpTFbDg-00350-00077320-00077455 and this was while i still had a D6QXUpTFbDg-00351-00077456-00077662 full-time job by the way so i'd wake up D6QXUpTFbDg-00352-00077663-00077926 at 6 a.m do recipes i was traveling try D6QXUpTFbDg-00353-00077927-00078111 and cross the border of belgium with one D6QXUpTFbDg-00354-00078112-00078438 kilo of protein powder in your bag D6QXUpTFbDg-00355-00078439-00078615 and the crazy thing is that i ended up D6QXUpTFbDg-00356-00078616-00078847 working my butt off for seven days went D6QXUpTFbDg-00357-00078848-00079087 to a festival in the woods and i sold D6QXUpTFbDg-00358-00079088-00079335 all my plant-based protein shakes D6QXUpTFbDg-00359-00079336-00079655 i made a whooping net profit D6QXUpTFbDg-00360-00079656-00079926 of nine pounds D6QXUpTFbDg-00361-00079927-00080167 it was the happiest i'd been of course i D6QXUpTFbDg-00362-00080168-00080367 had no idea if it was going to work but D6QXUpTFbDg-00363-00080368-00080550 actually when you look at it i was D6QXUpTFbDg-00364-00080551-00080694 trying to answer D6QXUpTFbDg-00365-00080695-00080879 a deeper question D6QXUpTFbDg-00366-00080880-00081015 is it possible D6QXUpTFbDg-00367-00081016-00081223 to start a business in a week with a D6QXUpTFbDg-00368-00081224-00081455 hundred pounds or less D6QXUpTFbDg-00369-00081456-00081567 now D6QXUpTFbDg-00370-00081568-00081847 i can't tell you what your quest is but D6QXUpTFbDg-00371-00081848-00082071 i can tell you what it feels like in D6QXUpTFbDg-00372-00082072-00082311 case you hear it knocking on your door D6QXUpTFbDg-00373-00082312-00082511 it's something that for whatever reason D6QXUpTFbDg-00374-00082512-00082726 is grabbing your curiosity even when you D6QXUpTFbDg-00375-00082727-00082918 don't want it to perhaps you're thinking D6QXUpTFbDg-00376-00082919-00083087 about it when you're in the shower or D6QXUpTFbDg-00377-00083088-00083247 maybe it's something to do when you're D6QXUpTFbDg-00378-00083248-00083471 doing over the weekend but i'd like to D6QXUpTFbDg-00379-00083472-00083703 share with you another example D6QXUpTFbDg-00380-00083704-00083871 take laurie podga D6QXUpTFbDg-00381-00083872-00084111 who for a year and a half decided to D6QXUpTFbDg-00382-00084112-00084431 paint 100 individual pieces of art for D6QXUpTFbDg-00383-00084432-00084647 100 people in her life who meant D6QXUpTFbDg-00384-00084648-00084862 something from her husband to a D6QXUpTFbDg-00385-00084863-00085111 hairdresser to the mechanic D6QXUpTFbDg-00386-00085112-00085406 her quest was to express her gratitude D6QXUpTFbDg-00387-00085407-00085559 through her art D6QXUpTFbDg-00388-00085560-00085726 and in the end she brought all these D6QXUpTFbDg-00389-00085727-00085935 people together in a really emotional D6QXUpTFbDg-00390-00085936-00086231 exhibition in a hometown of north D6QXUpTFbDg-00391-00086232-00086423 carolina D6QXUpTFbDg-00392-00086424-00086703 now you see this yearning we have of D6QXUpTFbDg-00393-00086704-00086943 having a quest having a purpose is at D6QXUpTFbDg-00394-00086944-00087055 the heart D6QXUpTFbDg-00395-00087056-00087279 of why so many people believe D6QXUpTFbDg-00396-00087280-00087487 that starting a business is the only way D6QXUpTFbDg-00397-00087488-00087782 to get that sense of freedom adventure D6QXUpTFbDg-00398-00087783-00087967 and purpose D6QXUpTFbDg-00399-00087968-00088094 but it's not D6QXUpTFbDg-00400-00088095-00088294 of course it can be and admittedly it D6QXUpTFbDg-00401-00088295-00088471 has been for me D6QXUpTFbDg-00402-00088472-00088671 yes a year ago when i quit my job to D6QXUpTFbDg-00403-00088672-00088838 start my business it's been the hardest D6QXUpTFbDg-00404-00088839-00089062 thing i've ever done D6QXUpTFbDg-00405-00089063-00089231 but it's also been the most rewarding D6QXUpTFbDg-00406-00089232-00089535 thing i've ever done D6QXUpTFbDg-00407-00089536-00089750 and this is what i've realized is that D6QXUpTFbDg-00408-00089751-00089879 actually D6QXUpTFbDg-00409-00089880-00090079 you think you want to start a business D6QXUpTFbDg-00410-00090080-00090287 but what you're actually looking for D6QXUpTFbDg-00411-00090288-00090462 is a quest D6QXUpTFbDg-00412-00090463-00090759 you can find purpose and meaning working D6QXUpTFbDg-00413-00090760-00090982 with an organization and you can find it D6QXUpTFbDg-00414-00090983-00091271 on your free time and you can find it on D6QXUpTFbDg-00415-00091272-00091479 the weekend D6QXUpTFbDg-00416-00091480-00091647 if you don't know where to start which D6QXUpTFbDg-00417-00091648-00091823 tends to be the majority of everyone i D6QXUpTFbDg-00418-00091824-00091959 speak to D6QXUpTFbDg-00419-00091960-00092118 trust the things that you're curious D6QXUpTFbDg-00420-00092119-00092303 about follow the things that you're D6QXUpTFbDg-00421-00092304-00092471 interested about D6QXUpTFbDg-00422-00092472-00092671 those are your breadcrumbs don't dismiss D6QXUpTFbDg-00423-00092672-00092838 them they sometimes feel like there's no D6QXUpTFbDg-00424-00092839-00093111 way i could be interested in barbecues D6QXUpTFbDg-00425-00093112-00093350 or violin D6QXUpTFbDg-00426-00093351-00093535 and next thing you know they lead you to D6QXUpTFbDg-00427-00093536-00093743 your quest those are the breadcrumbs D6QXUpTFbDg-00428-00093744-00093887 trust them D6QXUpTFbDg-00429-00093888-00094135 and if they scare you D6QXUpTFbDg-00430-00094136-00094382 that is so good D6QXUpTFbDg-00431-00094383-00094574 because what scares us most is most D6QXUpTFbDg-00432-00094575-00094950 often what we most need to do D6QXUpTFbDg-00433-00094951-00095111 take paul graham D6QXUpTFbDg-00434-00095112-00095359 the co-founder of white combinator the D6QXUpTFbDg-00435-00095360-00095599 most sought after startup accelerator in D6QXUpTFbDg-00436-00095600-00095887 the world who said it seems in order to D6QXUpTFbDg-00437-00095888-00096055 do really big things D6QXUpTFbDg-00438-00096056-00096223 you need to start by doing deceptively D6QXUpTFbDg-00439-00096224-00096415 small things D6QXUpTFbDg-00440-00096416-00096574 so whether your quest is an D6QXUpTFbDg-00441-00096575-00096838 entrepreneurial one or not i urge you to D6QXUpTFbDg-00442-00096839-00097062 start today D6QXUpTFbDg-00443-00097063-00097238 don't wait D6QXUpTFbDg-00444-00097239-00097438 because if everyone had a purpose D6QXUpTFbDg-00445-00097439-00097631 no matter how small D6QXUpTFbDg-00446-00097632-00097862 the world would be a better place for us D6QXUpTFbDg-00447-00097863-00098279 all thank you D6QXUpTFbDg-00448-00098280-00098606 [Applause] D6QXUpTFbDg-00449-00098607-00098816 you D7QtBSwADcU-00000-00000000-00000238 last session D7QtBSwADcU-00001-00000239-00000563 the last session aimed at introducing D7QtBSwADcU-00002-00000564-00000857 the question of the European Union and D7QtBSwADcU-00003-00000858-00001103 its raw material concrete strategy what D7QtBSwADcU-00004-00001104-00001373 role does Trader policy play and how D7QtBSwADcU-00005-00001374-00001697 does it link to energy transition D7QtBSwADcU-00006-00001698-00001901 um it's a very quick recap what we did D7QtBSwADcU-00007-00001902-00002267 was we looked at the climate targets and D7QtBSwADcU-00008-00002268-00002525 the math is actually pretty easy so what D7QtBSwADcU-00009-00002526-00002789 we see is that if D7QtBSwADcU-00010-00002790-00003047 if the European Union was to comply with D7QtBSwADcU-00011-00003048-00003449 its own climate targets that is not the D7QtBSwADcU-00012-00003450-00003772 Paris the same as the Paris targets the D7QtBSwADcU-00013-00003773-00004001 demand for raw materials is estimated to D7QtBSwADcU-00014-00004002-00004301 more than double until 2015. D7QtBSwADcU-00015-00004302-00004541 uh so that's a very short time for a lot D7QtBSwADcU-00016-00004542-00004931 of new raw materials and the European D7QtBSwADcU-00017-00004932-00005117 Union at the moment does not have these D7QtBSwADcU-00018-00005118-00005333 quantities of raw materials in its own D7QtBSwADcU-00019-00005334-00005741 grounds obviously so that means that we D7QtBSwADcU-00020-00005742-00006011 have to get them from somewhere else and D7QtBSwADcU-00021-00006012-00006256 although there's a variety of strategies D7QtBSwADcU-00022-00006257-00006719 to secure access Visual materials the D7QtBSwADcU-00023-00006720-00006934 current trade policy plays a very D7QtBSwADcU-00024-00006936-00007414 important part in accessing them D7QtBSwADcU-00025-00007415-00007601 um this obviously has an extensive D7QtBSwADcU-00026-00007602-00007870 downsize for people and the planet in D7QtBSwADcU-00027-00007872-00008119 the extracting countries we all know D7QtBSwADcU-00028-00008120-00008489 how mining is mostly pretty harmful to D7QtBSwADcU-00029-00008490-00008896 both environment and human rights issues D7QtBSwADcU-00030-00008897-00009155 indigenous rights Etc D7QtBSwADcU-00031-00009156-00009227 um D7QtBSwADcU-00032-00009228-00009419 so doubling the demand for these raw D7QtBSwADcU-00033-00009420-00009610 materials in a very short time would D7QtBSwADcU-00034-00009611-00009856 mean extensive downsides for both people D7QtBSwADcU-00035-00009857-00010091 and the planet and what would what we D7QtBSwADcU-00036-00010092-00010259 would actually need is to have a D7QtBSwADcU-00037-00010260-00010427 discussion and a serious discussion D7QtBSwADcU-00038-00010428-00010823 within Europe on how to de-grow the D7QtBSwADcU-00039-00010824-00011164 amount of resources and the things D7QtBSwADcU-00040-00011165-00011663 produced and recycle what we really need D7QtBSwADcU-00041-00011664-00011951 so that was a super quick recap from D7QtBSwADcU-00042-00011952-00012233 what we did last week D7QtBSwADcU-00043-00012234-00012556 um and now we will look at D7QtBSwADcU-00044-00012557-00012844 how does actually trade and raw D7QtBSwADcU-00045-00012845-00013013 materials for the energy transition link D7QtBSwADcU-00046-00013013-00013403 with the focus on fossil fuels D7QtBSwADcU-00047-00013404-00013691 um because on the one hand as we talked D7QtBSwADcU-00048-00013691-00013907 about a lot last time we need trade D7QtBSwADcU-00049-00013908-00014093 policies to get raw materials for the D7QtBSwADcU-00050-00014094-00014369 energy transition however D7QtBSwADcU-00051-00014369-00014549 um trade policy also plays an important D7QtBSwADcU-00052-00014550-00014801 role in protecting the fossil fuels that D7QtBSwADcU-00053-00014802-00015155 are out there at the moment D7QtBSwADcU-00054-00015156-00015341 um so how does this work D7QtBSwADcU-00055-00015341-00015694 um the main instrument that there is in D7QtBSwADcU-00056-00015695-00015899 trade agreements is D7QtBSwADcU-00057-00015900-00016175 um the so-called isds mechanism that is D7QtBSwADcU-00058-00016176-00016450 investor State dispute settlement so D7QtBSwADcU-00059-00016451-00016697 that means and that companies D7QtBSwADcU-00060-00016698-00016979 get special rights to two countries over D7QtBSwADcU-00061-00016980-00017357 lost profits for the investment D7QtBSwADcU-00062-00017358-00017536 um some of you might be familiar with D7QtBSwADcU-00063-00017537-00017717 that mechanism already it's something D7QtBSwADcU-00064-00017718-00018077 that we've criticized a lot during ttip D7QtBSwADcU-00065-00018078-00018443 and Sita and protest times but it's a D7QtBSwADcU-00066-00018444-00018683 mechanism that a lot of trade agreements D7QtBSwADcU-00067-00018684-00019057 actually have and that originated D7QtBSwADcU-00068-00019058-00019391 many decades ago actually and that was D7QtBSwADcU-00069-00019392-00019750 had maybe a little bit of D7QtBSwADcU-00070-00019751-00020008 um yeah I made a little bit of sense D7QtBSwADcU-00071-00020009-00020303 many many years ago but definitely does D7QtBSwADcU-00072-00020304-00020555 not make sense today anymore because D7QtBSwADcU-00073-00020556-00020825 countries can use or companies can use D7QtBSwADcU-00074-00020826-00021244 the country's National way legal ways D7QtBSwADcU-00075-00021245-00021449 um nonetheless the mechanism is there is D7QtBSwADcU-00076-00021450-00021791 then a lot of trade agreements D7QtBSwADcU-00077-00021792-00022025 um and in recent years what we've seen D7QtBSwADcU-00078-00022026-00022325 is that countries when countries decide D7QtBSwADcU-00079-00022326-00022522 to do stricter climate policies for D7QtBSwADcU-00080-00022523-00022805 example when they want to exit nuclear D7QtBSwADcU-00081-00022806-00023039 energy or when to want to exit Coal D7QtBSwADcU-00082-00023040-00023194 Energy D7QtBSwADcU-00083-00023195-00023386 um the companies that already had D7QtBSwADcU-00084-00023387-00023614 invested in for example nuclear power D7QtBSwADcU-00085-00023615-00023903 plants are coal power plants through the D7QtBSwADcU-00086-00023904-00024094 countries over the last profits because D7QtBSwADcU-00087-00024095-00024419 of that earlier exit and we've seen such D7QtBSwADcU-00088-00024420-00024600 cases for example D7QtBSwADcU-00089-00024601-00024964 a Swedish company is suing Germany over D7QtBSwADcU-00090-00024965-00025378 the nuclear exit and rwe is threatened D7QtBSwADcU-00091-00025379-00025661 into the Netherlands over the Coal D7QtBSwADcU-00092-00025662-00025984 Energy exit and one of the most D7QtBSwADcU-00093-00025985-00026052 um D7QtBSwADcU-00094-00026054-00026362 outrageous cases maybe is Rockhopper D7QtBSwADcU-00095-00026363-00026602 versus Italy which is a case when Italy D7QtBSwADcU-00096-00026604-00026896 decided to do no more drilling for oil D7QtBSwADcU-00097-00026897-00027202 in the area and the addressee and where D7QtBSwADcU-00098-00027204-00027449 copper suit them over Investments they D7QtBSwADcU-00099-00027450-00027646 had already made looking for oil there D7QtBSwADcU-00100-00027647-00027911 and they won huge amounts of money D7QtBSwADcU-00101-00027912-00028120 that's actually a case that only got D7QtBSwADcU-00102-00028122-00028414 decided Last Summer D7QtBSwADcU-00103-00028416-00028655 um so as you can see or maybe imagine D7QtBSwADcU-00104-00028656-00029045 and to the fact that companies can sue D7QtBSwADcU-00105-00029045-00029435 States for a lot of public money for D7QtBSwADcU-00106-00029436-00029657 climate policies is actually quite D7QtBSwADcU-00107-00029658-00029920 outrageous D7QtBSwADcU-00108-00029922-00030245 um and also as you might imagine already D7QtBSwADcU-00109-00030245-00030514 this is a mechanism that officially does D7QtBSwADcU-00110-00030516-00030737 not only apply to the fossil industry D7QtBSwADcU-00111-00030738-00031024 obviously and however what we see is D7QtBSwADcU-00112-00031025-00031240 that the fossil industry is to when D7QtBSwADcU-00113-00031241-00031493 using this mechanism most so it's a D7QtBSwADcU-00114-00031494-00031649 company's decision if they want to use D7QtBSwADcU-00115-00031650-00031823 that or not D7QtBSwADcU-00116-00031824-00032002 um on the fossil industry makes out D7QtBSwADcU-00117-00032004-00032423 about 20 of worldwide cases which is a D7QtBSwADcU-00118-00032424-00032687 lot and what we also see is that they D7QtBSwADcU-00119-00032688-00033023 are winning most of these cases D7QtBSwADcU-00120-00033024-00033287 um and that the compensations they go D7QtBSwADcU-00121-00033288-00033490 for are bigger than in most of the other D7QtBSwADcU-00122-00033491-00033862 branches so this is D7QtBSwADcU-00123-00033863-00034139 um this is also to show a little bit the D7QtBSwADcU-00124-00034140-00034439 special role of the fossil industry D7QtBSwADcU-00125-00034440-00034511 um D7QtBSwADcU-00126-00034512-00034799 on the other hand that that does not get D7QtBSwADcU-00127-00034800-00035177 lost you also see for example isds cases D7QtBSwADcU-00128-00035178-00035585 in Spain against changes in the D7QtBSwADcU-00129-00035586-00035789 renewable energy sector so it's also D7QtBSwADcU-00130-00035790-00036017 possible to sue over changes in that D7QtBSwADcU-00131-00036018-00036346 area and which is also a problem D7QtBSwADcU-00132-00036347-00036568 obviously because it limits the D7QtBSwADcU-00133-00036569-00036917 Democratic space the governments have to D7QtBSwADcU-00134-00036918-00037421 um influence the the energy transition D7QtBSwADcU-00135-00037422-00037643 okay D7QtBSwADcU-00136-00037644-00037846 um a very quick D7QtBSwADcU-00137-00037847-00038051 um yeah D7QtBSwADcU-00138-00038052-00038273 um off topic maybe no not off topic D7QtBSwADcU-00139-00038274-00038399 obviously D7QtBSwADcU-00140-00038400-00038759 um but uh one of the treaties that D7QtBSwADcU-00141-00038760-00038890 mostly D7QtBSwADcU-00142-00038891-00039124 um is used for these D7QtBSwADcU-00143-00039125-00039383 um cases and issues is the circled D7QtBSwADcU-00144-00039384-00039617 energy Charter treaty many of you might D7QtBSwADcU-00145-00039618-00039761 have heard about this already because D7QtBSwADcU-00146-00039762-00039946 it's one of the treaties that we have D7QtBSwADcU-00147-00039947-00040168 been campaigning against and the D7QtBSwADcU-00148-00040169-00040462 strongest over the last couple of years D7QtBSwADcU-00149-00040463-00040799 um that is a treaty that only D7QtBSwADcU-00150-00040800-00041177 um works in the topic of energy compared D7QtBSwADcU-00151-00041178-00041339 to most of the other tree disparates D7QtBSwADcU-00152-00041340-00041693 about uh trading all sorts of goods and D7QtBSwADcU-00153-00041694-00041855 the energy Charter treaty is about D7QtBSwADcU-00154-00041856-00042059 investment in the Energy System D7QtBSwADcU-00155-00042060-00042473 generally and 55 member states are a D7QtBSwADcU-00156-00042474-00042802 member of the energy Charter treaty and D7QtBSwADcU-00157-00042803-00043009 most of the D7QtBSwADcU-00158-00043010-00043445 isds cases and the icds cases of fossil D7QtBSwADcU-00159-00043446-00043655 companies that we see today are actually D7QtBSwADcU-00160-00043656-00044111 based on the energy Charter treaty why D7QtBSwADcU-00161-00044112-00044429 is this relevant we are super close to D7QtBSwADcU-00162-00044430-00044807 getting many many countries to exit the D7QtBSwADcU-00163-00044808-00045101 energy Charter treaty and so the energy D7QtBSwADcU-00164-00045102-00045289 Charter treaty was supposed to be D7QtBSwADcU-00165-00045290-00045658 modernized and made compatible with the D7QtBSwADcU-00166-00045659-00045989 Paris agreement that failed D7QtBSwADcU-00167-00045990-00046211 um and now the European Union is trying D7QtBSwADcU-00168-00046212-00046612 to fight a collective exit but um it's D7QtBSwADcU-00169-00046613-00046865 actually hopefully looking very good D7QtBSwADcU-00170-00046866-00047255 that at least this special treaty will D7QtBSwADcU-00171-00047256-00047758 no longer be based for isds claims D7QtBSwADcU-00172-00047759-00048065 um so now what we want to look at today D7QtBSwADcU-00173-00048066-00048449 is actually not an energy to the treaty D7QtBSwADcU-00174-00048450-00048779 case but a bilateral Investments treaty D7QtBSwADcU-00175-00048780-00049073 case and it still says that Aldo is D7QtBSwADcU-00176-00049074-00049283 going to give a presentation now and D7QtBSwADcU-00177-00049284-00049505 that's uh that's going to be patina D7QtBSwADcU-00178-00049506-00049696 unfortunately now or actually I'm super D7QtBSwADcU-00179-00049697-00049949 happy about it obviously D7QtBSwADcU-00180-00049950-00050261 um and yes that would be my moment to D7QtBSwADcU-00181-00050262-00050452 hand over to Patina we're looking D7QtBSwADcU-00182-00050453-00050771 forward to your input D7QtBSwADcU-00183-00050772-00051046 yes thank you very much Teresa thank you D7QtBSwADcU-00184-00051047-00051346 for this presentation which helps me D7QtBSwADcU-00185-00051347-00051490 actually a bit also with the one I'm D7QtBSwADcU-00186-00051491-00051725 going to give I'm also very sad Alo is D7QtBSwADcU-00187-00051726-00051958 not here and to D7QtBSwADcU-00188-00051959-00052211 tell you that he told me that like one D7QtBSwADcU-00189-00052212-00052361 hour ago D7QtBSwADcU-00190-00052362-00052576 so I had already prepared part of the D7QtBSwADcU-00191-00052577-00052859 presentation as he had asked that D7QtBSwADcU-00192-00052860-00052919 um D7QtBSwADcU-00193-00052920-00053321 for a bit of help so I would try to give D7QtBSwADcU-00194-00053322-00053680 my best maybe a quick D7QtBSwADcU-00195-00053682-00053957 uh why why can I even talk about this D7QtBSwADcU-00196-00053958-00054316 because I have been with TNI as Teresa D7QtBSwADcU-00197-00054317-00054466 said I have been doing quite some D7QtBSwADcU-00198-00054467-00054694 research already I actually have been D7QtBSwADcU-00199-00054695-00054815 working for more than six years already D7QtBSwADcU-00200-00054816-00054976 you know ICS claims against Latin D7QtBSwADcU-00201-00054977-00055216 American countries D7QtBSwADcU-00202-00055217-00055492 um with the TNI we're publishing D7QtBSwADcU-00203-00055494-00055649 a D7QtBSwADcU-00204-00055650-00056038 general report every year on isds claims D7QtBSwADcU-00205-00056039-00056176 against Latin American countries and D7QtBSwADcU-00206-00056177-00056380 there's also special country reports one D7QtBSwADcU-00207-00056382-00056626 is in Colombia it is all in Spanish so D7QtBSwADcU-00208-00056627-00056866 far but this year we aim to also have it D7QtBSwADcU-00209-00056867-00057209 in English and I will later on D7QtBSwADcU-00210-00057210-00057509 share the link to the website the D7QtBSwADcU-00211-00057510-00057821 dedicated website with you and D7QtBSwADcU-00212-00057822-00057988 on isds claims against Latin American D7QtBSwADcU-00213-00057989-00058115 countries D7QtBSwADcU-00214-00058116-00058294 so D7QtBSwADcU-00215-00058295-00058691 um yeah maybe that is a little intro D7QtBSwADcU-00216-00058691-00058973 and if you and and I have actually just D7QtBSwADcU-00217-00058974-00059225 recently updated the report on Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00218-00059226-00059429 so what you're now going to see is a bit D7QtBSwADcU-00219-00059429-00059813 on our research on isds in Colombia on D7QtBSwADcU-00220-00059814-00060082 its investment protection regime on the D7QtBSwADcU-00221-00060083-00060425 case of glencore III actually against D7QtBSwADcU-00222-00060426-00060649 Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00223-00060650-00060815 and D7QtBSwADcU-00224-00060816-00060887 um D7QtBSwADcU-00225-00060888-00061242 then I will also quickly give a little D7QtBSwADcU-00226-00061244-00061576 insight on the EU Columbia FTA actually D7QtBSwADcU-00227-00061577-00061865 EU Colombia Peru Ecuador FDA D7QtBSwADcU-00228-00061866-00062104 which D7QtBSwADcU-00229-00062105-00062561 um has been enforced since 2013 and also D7QtBSwADcU-00230-00062562-00062999 had some impact on minerals trade and D7QtBSwADcU-00231-00063000-00063263 um not so much on call but yeah D7QtBSwADcU-00232-00063264-00063580 let me share my screen with you and see D7QtBSwADcU-00233-00063582-00063791 if that works was that the right one I D7QtBSwADcU-00234-00063791-00064103 think so D7QtBSwADcU-00235-00064104-00064349 uh D7QtBSwADcU-00236-00064350-00064811 okay D7QtBSwADcU-00237-00064812-00065206 can you see that D7QtBSwADcU-00238-00065207-00065471 okay nobody's saying no so I hope yes D7QtBSwADcU-00239-00065472-00065729 okay yeah to me that's saying yes okay D7QtBSwADcU-00240-00065730-00065969 wonderful then let's dive right into it D7QtBSwADcU-00241-00065970-00066215 if you have any further questions please D7QtBSwADcU-00242-00066216-00066456 uh write them in the chat already or D7QtBSwADcU-00243-00066457-00066875 save them for after representation D7QtBSwADcU-00244-00066876-00067349 so what has been the impact on Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00245-00067350-00067415 um D7QtBSwADcU-00246-00067416-00067675 concerning its trade investment regime D7QtBSwADcU-00247-00067676-00068063 maybe it's uh noteworthy that Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00248-00068064-00068375 actually rather late started to sign by D7QtBSwADcU-00249-00068376-00068723 Electric investment treaties and it has D7QtBSwADcU-00250-00068724-00068975 not many only eight and the latest was D7QtBSwADcU-00251-00068976-00069232 just recently signed with Venezuela D7QtBSwADcU-00252-00069233-00069491 and I think it actually already enforced D7QtBSwADcU-00253-00069492-00069659 there is 10 more that they signed but D7QtBSwADcU-00254-00069660-00069894 that never entered into force D7QtBSwADcU-00255-00069895-00070150 uh and eight by the transvestment D7QtBSwADcU-00256-00070151-00070397 agreements if we look at other Latin D7QtBSwADcU-00257-00070398-00070571 American states for example Argentina D7QtBSwADcU-00258-00070572-00071021 has more than 50. is actually rather a D7QtBSwADcU-00259-00071022-00071321 small amount of number they D7QtBSwADcU-00260-00071322-00071632 stopped kind of signing ftas well with D7QtBSwADcU-00261-00071633-00071771 the exception of this recent one of D7QtBSwADcU-00262-00071772-00072023 Venezuela and started then negotiating D7QtBSwADcU-00263-00072024-00072311 FTA so free trade agreements with D7QtBSwADcU-00264-00072312-00072521 dedicated investment protection chapters D7QtBSwADcU-00265-00072522-00072865 which include the isds mechanism D7QtBSwADcU-00266-00072866-00073259 that Teresa just presented I don't think D7QtBSwADcU-00267-00073260-00073535 I have to explain again what it is right D7QtBSwADcU-00268-00073536-00073799 the special right of investors to sue D7QtBSwADcU-00269-00073800-00073931 States D7QtBSwADcU-00270-00073932-00074255 in case they pass a regulation D7QtBSwADcU-00271-00074256-00074525 investors are not happy with that might D7QtBSwADcU-00272-00074526-00074837 affect their business or whatnot D7QtBSwADcU-00273-00074838-00075191 um so those FDA those bits there's only D7QtBSwADcU-00274-00075192-00075329 two which are actually assigned with D7QtBSwADcU-00275-00075330-00075599 Europeans that EU States not European D7QtBSwADcU-00276-00075600-00075725 because there's Great Britain and D7QtBSwADcU-00277-00075726-00075905 Switzerland also D7QtBSwADcU-00278-00075906-00076212 and then the fdas are mainly signed with D7QtBSwADcU-00279-00076213-00076517 countries like Canada and the US there's D7QtBSwADcU-00280-00076518-00076793 also FDA great but not the EU but they D7QtBSwADcU-00281-00076794-00077050 do not include isds D7QtBSwADcU-00282-00077051-00077476 and Colombia actually before the change D7QtBSwADcU-00283-00077477-00077723 of government has shown interest in D7QtBSwADcU-00284-00077724-00077915 joining the D7QtBSwADcU-00285-00077916-00078203 cptpp so this D7QtBSwADcU-00286-00078204-00078323 um the trans-pacific partnership D7QtBSwADcU-00287-00078324-00078617 agreement without the US which is why it D7QtBSwADcU-00288-00078618-00078815 changes with its name and also the D7QtBSwADcU-00289-00078816-00079037 energy chartered treaty that Teresa just D7QtBSwADcU-00290-00079038-00079306 recently presented D7QtBSwADcU-00291-00079307-00079517 so um D7QtBSwADcU-00292-00079518-00079723 the new government actually D7QtBSwADcU-00293-00079724-00080275 Pedro has shown a bit of a different D7QtBSwADcU-00294-00080276-00080644 approach to the whole trade and D7QtBSwADcU-00295-00080645-00080885 investment question they were actually D7QtBSwADcU-00296-00080886-00081312 asking the US government to renegotiate D7QtBSwADcU-00297-00081313-00081659 their Trade Agreement because of the D7QtBSwADcU-00298-00081660-00081988 unfair terms especially for D7QtBSwADcU-00299-00081989-00082312 milk produced as a daily producers which D7QtBSwADcU-00300-00082313-00082487 in Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00301-00082488-00082871 are losing a lot of market share due to D7QtBSwADcU-00302-00082872-00083009 the very D7QtBSwADcU-00303-00083010-00083099 um D7QtBSwADcU-00304-00083100-00083338 cheap imports from the US but also from D7QtBSwADcU-00305-00083339-00083669 the EU actually D7QtBSwADcU-00306-00083670-00084035 um yeah maybe let's continue so what are D7QtBSwADcU-00307-00084036-00084197 the consequences of having signed those D7QtBSwADcU-00308-00084198-00084419 bilateral investment agreements and free D7QtBSwADcU-00309-00084420-00084532 trade agreements with investment D7QtBSwADcU-00310-00084533-00084682 protection chapters D7QtBSwADcU-00311-00084683-00085138 well uh D7QtBSwADcU-00312-00085139-00085487 Colombia received its first isds claim D7QtBSwADcU-00313-00085488-00085985 in its history in 2016 and since then it D7QtBSwADcU-00314-00085986-00086476 registered 21 under date 21 isds claims D7QtBSwADcU-00315-00086477-00086944 this is if we look at the average per D7QtBSwADcU-00316-00086945-00087115 year actually D7QtBSwADcU-00317-00087116-00087455 a lot a record if you want in Latin D7QtBSwADcU-00318-00087456-00087706 America even Argentina which is the most D7QtBSwADcU-00319-00087707-00087887 sold country in Latin America in the D7QtBSwADcU-00320-00087888-00088403 world has not had such a bad average on D7QtBSwADcU-00321-00088404-00088811 you know every year uh like yearly D7QtBSwADcU-00322-00088812-00089225 average of receiving ISS claims and D7QtBSwADcU-00323-00089226-00089417 there is maybe no surprise actually in D7QtBSwADcU-00324-00089418-00089675 2018 Colombia was even the most suit D7QtBSwADcU-00325-00089676-00089903 country in the world with at least six D7QtBSwADcU-00326-00089904-00090125 isds claims known as the S claims D7QtBSwADcU-00327-00090126-00090329 because this is only numbers we knew D7QtBSwADcU-00328-00090330-00090485 there might actually also be more ideas D7QtBSwADcU-00329-00090486-00090706 we don't know about D7QtBSwADcU-00330-00090707-00090947 economy is the sixth most sole Latin D7QtBSwADcU-00331-00090948-00091091 American country D7QtBSwADcU-00332-00091092-00091529 under isds claims and D7QtBSwADcU-00333-00091530-00091600 um D7QtBSwADcU-00334-00091601-00091943 here you can see a little graph which is D7QtBSwADcU-00335-00091944-00092225 taken from our research which shows how D7QtBSwADcU-00336-00092226-00092632 many claims Colombia has received so far D7QtBSwADcU-00337-00092633-00092873 and in which year D7QtBSwADcU-00338-00092874-00093121 there has been one already in 2023 D7QtBSwADcU-00339-00093122-00093431 actually the second uh claim of the year D7QtBSwADcU-00340-00093432-00093665 went to Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00341-00093666-00093797 so yeah D7QtBSwADcU-00342-00093798-00094055 but there might be more because there's D7QtBSwADcU-00343-00094056-00094397 also quite some threats so um companies D7QtBSwADcU-00344-00094398-00094571 threatening announcing that they're D7QtBSwADcU-00345-00094572-00094841 going to sue Colombia or a different D7QtBSwADcU-00346-00094842-00095038 action and one which I think is very D7QtBSwADcU-00347-00095039-00095465 relevant because it is linked to what D7QtBSwADcU-00348-00095466-00095615 we're going to talk or we're talking D7QtBSwADcU-00349-00095616-00096096 about today is the the law of D7QtBSwADcU-00350-00096097-00096226 [Music] D7QtBSwADcU-00351-00096227-00096803 equality and social justice D7QtBSwADcU-00352-00096804-00097126 which Pedro presented and which aims to D7QtBSwADcU-00353-00097127-00097517 raise 4.4 billion US dollars to invest D7QtBSwADcU-00354-00097518-00097756 in Social spending by introducing an D7QtBSwADcU-00355-00097757-00097961 extra tax on revenues from oil and coal D7QtBSwADcU-00356-00097962-00098315 firms and the representative of the U.S D7QtBSwADcU-00357-00098316-00098644 American firms active in the oil and D7QtBSwADcU-00358-00098645-00098843 coal sector in Colombia has already D7QtBSwADcU-00359-00098844-00099106 announced that if that law is actually D7QtBSwADcU-00360-00099107-00099538 passed then they will present claims D7QtBSwADcU-00361-00099539-00099755 ASDS claims D7QtBSwADcU-00362-00099756-00100132 uh D7QtBSwADcU-00363-00100133-00100391 anyway sorry I just thought that was a D7QtBSwADcU-00364-00100392-00100588 question D7QtBSwADcU-00365-00100589-00100741 um okay D7QtBSwADcU-00366-00100742-00101044 consequences two D7QtBSwADcU-00367-00101045-00101273 all of the claims against Colombia come D7QtBSwADcU-00368-00101274-00101615 from U.S Canadian and European investors D7QtBSwADcU-00369-00101616-00101897 none from other Latin American investors D7QtBSwADcU-00370-00101898-00102268 from China or whatnot only U.S and D7QtBSwADcU-00371-00102269-00102480 European D7QtBSwADcU-00372-00102481-00102928 with this latest claim in 23 actually D7QtBSwADcU-00373-00102929-00103199 the balance is even getting a bit more D7QtBSwADcU-00374-00103200-00103499 equal between us and Canadian like North D7QtBSwADcU-00375-00103500-00103732 American investors and European ones D7QtBSwADcU-00376-00103733-00104086 it's 53 for North American and 47 D7QtBSwADcU-00377-00104088-00104208 percent D7QtBSwADcU-00378-00104209-00104478 of the investors D7QtBSwADcU-00379-00104479-00104921 claims against Colombia are from Europe D7QtBSwADcU-00380-00104922-00105133 four claims are by Spanish investors D7QtBSwADcU-00381-00105133-00105389 none of which relates to the mining D7QtBSwADcU-00382-00105390-00105634 sector three from Switzerland all three D7QtBSwADcU-00383-00105635-00105857 from glencore and then three from Great D7QtBSwADcU-00384-00105858-00106145 Britain one actually from American which D7QtBSwADcU-00385-00106146-00106433 I will also enter a bit more in detail D7QtBSwADcU-00386-00106433-00106660 in a second D7QtBSwADcU-00387-00106661-00106925 almost 50 percent of all those IDs D7QtBSwADcU-00388-00106926-00107069 claims against Colombia are related D7QtBSwADcU-00389-00107070-00107423 actually to the mining sector so a lot D7QtBSwADcU-00390-00107424-00107627 and this is a general tendency in Latin D7QtBSwADcU-00391-00107628-00107783 America let me just tell you a bit more D7QtBSwADcU-00392-00107783-00108154 about my research almost one-fourth of D7QtBSwADcU-00393-00108155-00108334 all claims against Latin American states D7QtBSwADcU-00394-00108335-00108581 are actually related to the mining D7QtBSwADcU-00395-00108582-00108821 sector D7QtBSwADcU-00396-00108822-00108934 um D7QtBSwADcU-00397-00108935-00109258 but Colombia there is a very special uh D7QtBSwADcU-00398-00109259-00109516 country with so many actually almost 50 D7QtBSwADcU-00399-00109517-00109708 percent of all its claims related to the D7QtBSwADcU-00400-00109709-00109793 state D7QtBSwADcU-00401-00109794-00110081 there are still 14 claims pending D7QtBSwADcU-00402-00110082-00110357 with uh worth at least 2.8 billion US D7QtBSwADcU-00403-00110358-00110608 Dollars there's one claim like one very D7QtBSwADcU-00404-00110609-00110981 uh important and expensive claim which D7QtBSwADcU-00405-00110982-00111323 is almost six which is 60 16.5 billion D7QtBSwADcU-00406-00111324-00111431 US dollar D7QtBSwADcU-00407-00111432-00111604 but this one D7QtBSwADcU-00408-00111605-00111695 um D7QtBSwADcU-00409-00111696-00111958 according to official government sources D7QtBSwADcU-00410-00111959-00112290 uh has been discontinued but there is no D7QtBSwADcU-00411-00112291-00112602 official note of this content D7QtBSwADcU-00412-00112603-00112895 discontinuance which is why we we are D7QtBSwADcU-00413-00112896-00113075 it's the kind of like shall we added to D7QtBSwADcU-00414-00113076-00113284 we not edit should we added what I left D7QtBSwADcU-00415-00113285-00113423 it out for now D7QtBSwADcU-00416-00113424-00113734 uh and of course there's also a lot of D7QtBSwADcU-00417-00113735-00113921 claims we don't know actually the worth D7QtBSwADcU-00418-00113922-00114202 of it so it's at least 2.8 but actually D7QtBSwADcU-00419-00114203-00114352 it's more D7QtBSwADcU-00420-00114353-00114739 and glencore already won a aim against D7QtBSwADcU-00421-00114740-00115084 Colombia one out of its three claims D7QtBSwADcU-00422-00115085-00115384 and Colombia was ordered to pay 20 D7QtBSwADcU-00423-00115385-00115715 billion oh that that is wrong it says D7QtBSwADcU-00424-00115716-00115925 and you know I forgot the million sorry D7QtBSwADcU-00425-00115926-00116249 20 million USD to glencore in its last D7QtBSwADcU-00426-00116250-00116471 year D7QtBSwADcU-00427-00116472-00116849 let's go to what actually I D7QtBSwADcU-00428-00116850-00117040 today D7QtBSwADcU-00429-00117041-00117245 which is the claim the latest Claim by D7QtBSwADcU-00430-00117246-00117545 glencore against Colombia which is D7QtBSwADcU-00431-00117546-00117869 especially outrageous if I might say so D7QtBSwADcU-00432-00117870-00118133 what it is about it is what is it about D7QtBSwADcU-00433-00118133-00118463 it's about the largest open pit Coal D7QtBSwADcU-00434-00118464-00118740 Mine in Latin America D7QtBSwADcU-00435-00118741-00119149 which is situated in one of the poorest D7QtBSwADcU-00436-00119150-00119304 provinces D7QtBSwADcU-00437-00119305-00119633 in Colombia it has been active for more D7QtBSwADcU-00438-00119633-00119825 than four decades actually and it's D7QtBSwADcU-00439-00119826-00120149 owned by glencore and was owned until D7QtBSwADcU-00440-00120150-00120473 recently by BHP and Anglo American I D7QtBSwADcU-00441-00120474-00120677 forgotten and there sorry I just made D7QtBSwADcU-00442-00120678-00120899 those slides up very quickly when I D7QtBSwADcU-00443-00120900-00121049 found out that I had to give that D7QtBSwADcU-00444-00121050-00121301 presentations of anglo-american which is D7QtBSwADcU-00445-00121302-00121408 a British D7QtBSwADcU-00446-00121409-00121523 um D7QtBSwADcU-00447-00121524-00121823 mining firm D7QtBSwADcU-00448-00121824-00122002 um what have been the consequences of D7QtBSwADcU-00449-00122003-00122308 those four Decades of coal mining in D7QtBSwADcU-00450-00122309-00122428 this region D7QtBSwADcU-00451-00122429-00122716 what do we know of is that at least 44 D7QtBSwADcU-00452-00122717-00122981 local streams dried up D7QtBSwADcU-00453-00122982-00123227 because they used all the water there D7QtBSwADcU-00454-00123228-00123497 has been displacement of at least 34 D7QtBSwADcU-00455-00123498-00123701 indigenous communities D7QtBSwADcU-00456-00123702-00124001 in moment degradation and contamination D7QtBSwADcU-00457-00124002-00124223 of water and soil affecting health and D7QtBSwADcU-00458-00124224-00124597 livelihoods of populations D7QtBSwADcU-00459-00124598-00124943 and in fact due to all those negative D7QtBSwADcU-00460-00124944-00125171 consequences and because of the because D7QtBSwADcU-00461-00125172-00125339 the affected communities present D7QtBSwADcU-00462-00125340-00125621 presented a claim to suspend activities D7QtBSwADcU-00463-00125622-00125921 especially in one part D7QtBSwADcU-00464-00125922-00126269 um of where the mine was going to extend D7QtBSwADcU-00465-00126270-00126466 into D7QtBSwADcU-00466-00126467-00126658 um the Constitutional Court of Colombia D7QtBSwADcU-00467-00126659-00127007 ordered in 2017 to suspend the expansion D7QtBSwADcU-00468-00127008-00127283 of the mine towards this other stream D7QtBSwADcU-00469-00127283-00127481 which is called arosho which is stream D7QtBSwADcU-00470-00127482-00127751 Bruno D7QtBSwADcU-00471-00127752-00128075 um and in its decisions argued that the D7QtBSwADcU-00472-00128076-00128278 project threatens the fundamental rights D7QtBSwADcU-00473-00128279-00128507 to water food security and health of the D7QtBSwADcU-00474-00128508-00128771 Yu indigenous communities in this area D7QtBSwADcU-00475-00128772-00129010 and order to further environmental and D7QtBSwADcU-00476-00129011-00129304 social impact assessments D7QtBSwADcU-00477-00129305-00129599 then there was an going D7QtBSwADcU-00478-00129600-00129847 back and forth between D7QtBSwADcU-00479-00129848-00130127 agencies between local communities and D7QtBSwADcU-00480-00130128-00130463 so on and so forth and because of all D7QtBSwADcU-00481-00130464-00130678 the activities and because their action D7QtBSwADcU-00482-00130679-00130871 was suspended they're mining activities D7QtBSwADcU-00483-00130872-00131069 were suspended glencore and D7QtBSwADcU-00484-00131070-00131411 anglo-american presented isds claims two D7QtBSwADcU-00485-00131412-00131549 separate ones D7QtBSwADcU-00486-00131550-00131947 in 2008-2021 D7QtBSwADcU-00487-00131948-00132275 anglo-american then decided after quite D7QtBSwADcU-00488-00132276-00132640 some outrage that there they were D7QtBSwADcU-00489-00132641-00132881 discontinued in the case there's no open D7QtBSwADcU-00490-00132882-00133235 decision open explanation though and why D7QtBSwADcU-00491-00133236-00133571 they decided and they also sold all its D7QtBSwADcU-00492-00133572-00133799 their shares of their mind D7QtBSwADcU-00493-00133800-00134164 to lancor so now silicon is only in the D7QtBSwADcU-00494-00134165-00134357 hands of glencore D7QtBSwADcU-00495-00134358-00134639 and lenker is still fighting to being D7QtBSwADcU-00496-00134640-00134764 able D7QtBSwADcU-00497-00134765-00135797 to continue with its D7QtBSwADcU-00498-00135798-00136037 and um D7QtBSwADcU-00499-00136038-00136216 since then D7QtBSwADcU-00500-00136217-00136571 there have been there has been protests D7QtBSwADcU-00501-00136572-00136775 and a protest movement actually forming D7QtBSwADcU-00502-00136776-00137064 against glencore D7QtBSwADcU-00503-00137065-00137501 Aldo's actually part and also TNI is D7QtBSwADcU-00504-00137502-00137639 part of D7QtBSwADcU-00505-00137640-00137771 um D7QtBSwADcU-00506-00137772-00137916 like an international D7QtBSwADcU-00507-00137917-00138257 yeah movement International how you call D7QtBSwADcU-00508-00138258-00138466 them Coalition that is forming against D7QtBSwADcU-00509-00138467-00138593 land currents and activities D7QtBSwADcU-00510-00138594-00138952 specifically to that case D7QtBSwADcU-00511-00138953-00139428 um and there has been an Amigos D7QtBSwADcU-00512-00139429-00139954 presented to the isds court like the D7QtBSwADcU-00513-00139955-00140225 tribunal so that is like a letter of the D7QtBSwADcU-00514-00140226-00140489 friends D7QtBSwADcU-00515-00140490-00140740 um so people interested in the case D7QtBSwADcU-00516-00140741-00141004 presenting a letter D7QtBSwADcU-00517-00141005-00141481 saying that you know arguing D7QtBSwADcU-00518-00141482-00141814 that the government has to revise all D7QtBSwADcU-00519-00141815-00142073 its bilateral investment agreements it's D7QtBSwADcU-00520-00142074-00142411 fdas Etc that allow for isds D7QtBSwADcU-00521-00142412-00142775 and at the same time government agencies D7QtBSwADcU-00522-00142776-00143075 actually conducted another sustainable D7QtBSwADcU-00523-00143076-00143273 impact assessment and found that there D7QtBSwADcU-00524-00143274-00143449 when there was no problem whatsoever D7QtBSwADcU-00525-00143450-00143951 with the activities and now they want to D7QtBSwADcU-00526-00143952-00144095 trying D7QtBSwADcU-00527-00144096-00144263 to D7QtBSwADcU-00528-00144264-00144613 um D7QtBSwADcU-00529-00144614-00144839 how would you say D7QtBSwADcU-00530-00144840-00145139 trying to kind of restart the activities D7QtBSwADcU-00531-00145140-00145487 there and to being able to dissuade the D7QtBSwADcU-00532-00145488-00145816 case and to to stop the case D7QtBSwADcU-00533-00145817-00146171 but that so far hasn't happened so the D7QtBSwADcU-00534-00146172-00146399 case is still ongoing we don't know how D7QtBSwADcU-00535-00146400-00146675 much money glencore is asking for as D7QtBSwADcU-00536-00146676-00146843 anonymization D7QtBSwADcU-00537-00146844-00147287 and um yeah it's quite outrageous if you D7QtBSwADcU-00538-00147288-00147443 ask me D7QtBSwADcU-00539-00147444-00147628 and I know that Elder would have been D7QtBSwADcU-00540-00147629-00147814 able to tell you a bit more because he D7QtBSwADcU-00541-00147815-00148127 is also more on the ground there and D7QtBSwADcU-00542-00148128-00148397 active there has been a statement a D7QtBSwADcU-00543-00148398-00148595 public statement that maybe you have D7QtBSwADcU-00544-00148596-00148816 seen that you can still sign I can also D7QtBSwADcU-00545-00148817-00149051 put that in the chat D7QtBSwADcU-00546-00149052-00149314 where there's a bit more info on the D7QtBSwADcU-00547-00149315-00149554 this case D7QtBSwADcU-00548-00149555-00149771 all right D7QtBSwADcU-00549-00149772-00150078 just a quick D7QtBSwADcU-00550-00150079-00150490 course to the EU Colombia FTA and what D7QtBSwADcU-00551-00150491-00151037 impact it has on raw materials trade D7QtBSwADcU-00552-00151038-00151247 um actually D7QtBSwADcU-00553-00151248-00151427 I find it found it quite interesting D7QtBSwADcU-00554-00151428-00151799 that by 2013 when this FDA entered into D7QtBSwADcU-00555-00151800-00151913 Force D7QtBSwADcU-00556-00151914-00152266 uh 33 of the export of Columbus export D7QtBSwADcU-00557-00152267-00152513 to the EU were actually coal D7QtBSwADcU-00558-00152514-00152969 since then that changed completely D7QtBSwADcU-00559-00152970-00153107 um D7QtBSwADcU-00560-00153108-00153364 you can see here this is actually a D7QtBSwADcU-00561-00153365-00153587 chart that I copied from the sustainable D7QtBSwADcU-00562-00153588-00153833 exposed sustainable impact assessment of D7QtBSwADcU-00563-00153834-00154145 the EU which was conducted just recently D7QtBSwADcU-00564-00154146-00154337 and its final report is from January D7QtBSwADcU-00565-00154338-00154583 2022 D7QtBSwADcU-00566-00154584-00154913 and what we can see there is that coal D7QtBSwADcU-00567-00154914-00155207 actually lost a lot of market shares if D7QtBSwADcU-00568-00155208-00155314 you want D7QtBSwADcU-00569-00155315-00155573 um so it's not being the most exported D7QtBSwADcU-00570-00155574-00155735 product anymore to the EU it's now D7QtBSwADcU-00571-00155736-00155928 bananas D7QtBSwADcU-00572-00155929-00156143 and um D7QtBSwADcU-00573-00156144-00156328 at the same time D7QtBSwADcU-00574-00156329-00156616 anyway gold for example went up quite a D7QtBSwADcU-00575-00156617-00156707 lot D7QtBSwADcU-00576-00156708-00156928 and also D7QtBSwADcU-00577-00156929-00157276 other agricultural products D7QtBSwADcU-00578-00157277-00157535 so what we can see and what happened and D7QtBSwADcU-00579-00157536-00157757 what they're telling at least the if I D7QtBSwADcU-00580-00157758-00158178 am the exposed Sia is telling us is that D7QtBSwADcU-00581-00158179-00158651 due to changing World Market prices D7QtBSwADcU-00582-00158652-00158926 Colombia is not exporting that much coal D7QtBSwADcU-00583-00158927-00159143 anymore although of course now with the D7QtBSwADcU-00584-00159144-00159340 geopolitical situation with the war in D7QtBSwADcU-00585-00159341-00159628 Ukraine this has changed so there is D7QtBSwADcU-00586-00159629-00159773 more export again D7QtBSwADcU-00587-00159774-00159983 but surprise is D7QtBSwADcU-00588-00159984-00160145 um actually it went down D7QtBSwADcU-00589-00160146-00160493 incredibly we have agricultural products D7QtBSwADcU-00590-00160494-00160721 being exported more and more D7QtBSwADcU-00591-00160722-00161087 from Colombia to the EU with bananas D7QtBSwADcU-00592-00161088-00161447 being the top selling product but also D7QtBSwADcU-00593-00161448-00161719 avocados which D7QtBSwADcU-00594-00161720-00162052 started to be exported incredibly much D7QtBSwADcU-00595-00162053-00162378 so now we have this kind of inverted D7QtBSwADcU-00596-00162379-00162664 trade where you have 22 percent of D7QtBSwADcU-00597-00162665-00163181 exports in 20 2012 only where a non-cole D7QtBSwADcU-00598-00163182-00163439 and non-hydrocarbon products and by now D7QtBSwADcU-00599-00163440-00163681 it is 52 actually D7QtBSwADcU-00600-00163682-00163937 interestingly what this Sia also found D7QtBSwADcU-00601-00163938-00164363 is that this did not have any um D7QtBSwADcU-00602-00164364-00165064 I did not have much effect on the ga the D7QtBSwADcU-00603-00165065-00165389 ah why you call them the emissions CO2 D7QtBSwADcU-00604-00165390-00165485 emissions D7QtBSwADcU-00605-00165486-00165971 another ghd emissions in fact for all D7QtBSwADcU-00606-00165972-00166199 three countries so Ecuador Peru and D7QtBSwADcU-00607-00166200-00166499 Colombia and also for the EU because of D7QtBSwADcU-00608-00166500-00166733 the trade that changed and also because D7QtBSwADcU-00609-00166734-00166978 there's no more agricultural trade and D7QtBSwADcU-00610-00166979-00167081 more D7QtBSwADcU-00611-00167082-00167333 trade of course are also apparently of D7QtBSwADcU-00612-00167334-00167435 products that are not very D7QtBSwADcU-00613-00167436-00167585 environmentally friendly and climate D7QtBSwADcU-00614-00167586-00167759 friendly D7QtBSwADcU-00615-00167760-00167825 um D7QtBSwADcU-00616-00167826-00168131 CO2 emissions actually increased D7QtBSwADcU-00617-00168132-00168443 in those countries I found that rather D7QtBSwADcU-00618-00168444-00168689 interesting and that also shows that D7QtBSwADcU-00619-00168690-00169019 actually those free trade agreements D7QtBSwADcU-00620-00169020-00169252 um are not at all environmental or D7QtBSwADcU-00621-00169253-00169549 climate friendly even if you have less D7QtBSwADcU-00622-00169550-00169990 coal being exported to the EU D7QtBSwADcU-00623-00169991-00170531 yeah so that may be as a quick D7QtBSwADcU-00624-00170532-00170640 um D7QtBSwADcU-00625-00170641-00170921 x-course and one last thing I wanted to D7QtBSwADcU-00626-00170922-00171107 say which I didn't manage to set up D7QtBSwADcU-00627-00171108-00171521 another slide was that because Teresa D7QtBSwADcU-00628-00171522-00171695 mentioned all those bilateral investment D7QtBSwADcU-00629-00171696-00171839 agreements D7QtBSwADcU-00630-00171840-00171911 um D7QtBSwADcU-00631-00171912-00172037 that D7QtBSwADcU-00632-00172038-00172307 where you could where investors can be D7QtBSwADcU-00633-00172308-00172607 swing States if they for example want to D7QtBSwADcU-00634-00172608-00172883 face on call what not it is not only the D7QtBSwADcU-00635-00172884-00173123 energy chartered treaty but the EU EU D7QtBSwADcU-00636-00173124-00173452 countries have more than 1 100 of those D7QtBSwADcU-00637-00173453-00173825 bilateral investment agreements in place D7QtBSwADcU-00638-00173826-00174221 and enforce that actually allow for D7QtBSwADcU-00639-00174222-00174604 uh is yes and there's also new free D7QtBSwADcU-00640-00174605-00174935 trade agreements being signed well one D7QtBSwADcU-00641-00174936-00175151 Germany just ratified it was which is D7QtBSwADcU-00642-00175152-00175493 Sita which also has the ICS now reformed D7QtBSwADcU-00643-00175494-00175721 isds mechanism is in place but there is D7QtBSwADcU-00644-00175722-00175907 the EU Mexico and the utility agreement D7QtBSwADcU-00645-00175908-00176135 we'll talk a bit about you Chile next D7QtBSwADcU-00646-00176136-00176321 week D7QtBSwADcU-00647-00176322-00176404 um D7QtBSwADcU-00648-00176405-00176926 which also allow for ICS and there is D7QtBSwADcU-00649-00176927-00177293 for now no interpreted declaration or D7QtBSwADcU-00650-00177294-00177466 exclusion of for example for an D7QtBSwADcU-00651-00177467-00177652 equitable treatment or classes that are D7QtBSwADcU-00652-00177653-00178043 being used a lot to sue States also in D7QtBSwADcU-00653-00178044-00178301 case for example their place to plan to D7QtBSwADcU-00654-00178302-00178433 phase or call or take any other D7QtBSwADcU-00655-00178434-00178661 regulations and I mean we just saw the D7QtBSwADcU-00656-00178662-00178925 case of Colombia actually that is now a D7QtBSwADcU-00657-00178926-00179237 U.S American investors threatening to D7QtBSwADcU-00658-00179238-00179633 sue because of an extra attacks D7QtBSwADcU-00659-00179634-00179831 on call and D7QtBSwADcU-00660-00179832-00179995 oil D7QtBSwADcU-00661-00179996-00180366 on the oil sector but that could also be D7QtBSwADcU-00662-00180367-00180754 European investors doing the same and D7QtBSwADcU-00663-00180755-00181247 interestingly to close the head of the D7QtBSwADcU-00664-00181248-00181631 U.S American firms in the islands D7QtBSwADcU-00665-00181632-00181871 um coal sector in Colombia said yeah we D7QtBSwADcU-00666-00181872-00182021 all agree that we have to do something D7QtBSwADcU-00667-00182022-00182237 against climate change but it doesn't D7QtBSwADcU-00668-00182238-00182423 have to be so quick D7QtBSwADcU-00669-00182424-00182711 so that was his argument that just this D7QtBSwADcU-00670-00182712-00182938 tax revenue was just too quick and too D7QtBSwADcU-00671-00182939-00183401 much uh for uh investors to take 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D9eX6kk5AeM-00039-00011175-00011351 when i was younger D9eX6kk5AeM-00040-00011352-00011670 i started youtube and i D9eX6kk5AeM-00041-00011671-00011951 got inspired by the likes of dantdms D9eX6kk5AeM-00042-00011952-00012014 family D9eX6kk5AeM-00043-00012015-00012423 from the most kind of minecraft those D9eX6kk5AeM-00044-00012424-00012527 kind of guys D9eX6kk5AeM-00045-00012528-00012879 and then when when time went by D9eX6kk5AeM-00046-00012880-00013191 i started getting inspired to do D9eX6kk5AeM-00047-00013191-00013463 other games from like jacksepticeye D9eX6kk5AeM-00048-00013463-00013647 marketplayer to thanos D9eX6kk5AeM-00049-00013647-00013935 gaming crew all those type of guys too D9eX6kk5AeM-00050-00013936-00014015 yeah D9eX6kk5AeM-00051-00014016-00014327 lgx with more questions D9eX6kk5AeM-00052-00014328-00014551 says what's your intention of becoming a D9eX6kk5AeM-00053-00014552-00014686 youtuber D9eX6kk5AeM-00054-00014687-00014863 do you have any future ideas that you D9eX6kk5AeM-00055-00014863-00015086 would like to share and what editing D9eX6kk5AeM-00056-00015087-00015183 software do D9eX6kk5AeM-00057-00015184-00015575 i use well my intention being a youtuber D9eX6kk5AeM-00058-00015576-00015607 is D9eX6kk5AeM-00059-00015608-00015871 well i just want to entertain people now D9eX6kk5AeM-00060-00015872-00016015 so it's like a D9eX6kk5AeM-00061-00016016-00016335 cool new experience for me D9eX6kk5AeM-00062-00016336-00016663 uh future video ideas and D9eX6kk5AeM-00063-00016664-00017063 i want to do more project chaos honestly D9eX6kk5AeM-00064-00017064-00017263 like i said before i want to do more D9eX6kk5AeM-00065-00017264-00017422 let's plays too D9eX6kk5AeM-00066-00017423-00017807 i might be making more music too and D9eX6kk5AeM-00067-00017808-00018022 well that's the only stuff i'm gonna D9eX6kk5AeM-00068-00018023-00018183 tell you i think that D9eX6kk5AeM-00069-00018184-00018463 it ain't that's just first on the list D9eX6kk5AeM-00070-00018464-00018543 all right D9eX6kk5AeM-00071-00018544-00018935 there's a whole lot of us in there D9eX6kk5AeM-00072-00018936-00019175 what editing software do i use are you D9eX6kk5AeM-00073-00019176-00019335 shop cut D9eX6kk5AeM-00074-00019336-00019683 my friend big [__] says why my shadow D9eX6kk5AeM-00075-00019684-00020079 yes um death potato man one of D9eX6kk5AeM-00076-00020080-00020430 my uh my admins in the server D9eX6kk5AeM-00077-00020431-00020758 says what's my idea of big sub count on D9eX6kk5AeM-00078-00020759-00020935 youtube D9eX6kk5AeM-00079-00020936-00021222 well i like looking at sub counts it's D9eX6kk5AeM-00080-00021223-00021278 like D9eX6kk5AeM-00081-00021279-00021622 how many people are there sitting D9eX6kk5AeM-00082-00021623-00021935 in like one big room D9eX6kk5AeM-00083-00021936-00022319 and like listening and looking at you D9eX6kk5AeM-00084-00022320-00022694 at what you say and do that and like D9eX6kk5AeM-00085-00022695-00023143 meaning that like D9eX6kk5AeM-00086-00023144-00023575 yeah i view it that way it looks big D9eX6kk5AeM-00087-00023576-00023927 spirited jedi says who are my 10 D9eX6kk5AeM-00088-00023928-00024086 favorite fictional characters of all D9eX6kk5AeM-00089-00024087-00024167 time D9eX6kk5AeM-00090-00024168-00024535 and what's my favorite news of all time D9eX6kk5AeM-00091-00024536-00024855 well it's a D9eX6kk5AeM-00092-00024856-00025214 very long list and i can't choose which D9eX6kk5AeM-00093-00025215-00025519 on my 10 top 10 favorite fictional D9eX6kk5AeM-00094-00025520-00025678 characters of all time D9eX6kk5AeM-00095-00025679-00025943 but my favorite movie of all time is D9eX6kk5AeM-00096-00025944-00026062 back to future D9eX6kk5AeM-00097-00026063-00026423 i know there are lots of films D9eX6kk5AeM-00098-00026424-00026711 which could be my favorite movie of all D9eX6kk5AeM-00099-00026712-00026807 time D9eX6kk5AeM-00100-00026808-00027127 like you know i just like back to the 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D9eX6kk5AeM-00117-00031439-00031687 i like those games a lot they're fun and D9eX6kk5AeM-00118-00031688-00031767 like yeah D9eX6kk5AeM-00119-00031768-00032070 my favorite type of music uh i like i D9eX6kk5AeM-00120-00032072-00032231 like any type of music D9eX6kk5AeM-00121-00032232-00032535 actually but i like listening to little D9eX6kk5AeM-00122-00032536-00032614 fine D9eX6kk5AeM-00123-00032616-00032959 music a lot starter squad says who's my D9eX6kk5AeM-00124-00032960-00033023 favorite D9eX6kk5AeM-00125-00033024-00033390 fall brother uh logan paul D9eX6kk5AeM-00126-00033391-00033815 is a calm choice like D9eX6kk5AeM-00127-00033816-00034190 a chick four slicing no D9eX6kk5AeM-00128-00034191-00034479 i'll t-axis who would win in a battle D9eX6kk5AeM-00129-00034480-00034943 pewdiepie or felix joberg D9eX6kk5AeM-00130-00034944-00035318 yeah that's very hard to choose D9eX6kk5AeM-00131-00035319-00035727 i had admin essays so it's my address D9eX6kk5AeM-00132-00035728-00036055 address 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D9eX6kk5AeM-00148-00040591-00040679 youtuber D9eX6kk5AeM-00149-00040680-00040918 um i already answered that question D9eX6kk5AeM-00150-00040919-00041102 before D9eX6kk5AeM-00151-00041103-00042083 and go to a virtual piano site play this D9eX6kk5AeM-00153-00045752-00046158 um the meme man says D9eX6kk5AeM-00154-00046159-00046551 how do i poop like normal human being D9eX6kk5AeM-00155-00046552-00046790 starter squad says how do you commit the D9eX6kk5AeM-00156-00046791-00047279 perfect murder D9eX6kk5AeM-00157-00047280-00047743 well basically D9eX6kk5AeM-00158-00047744-00048255 i need to do D9eX6kk5AeM-00159-00048256-00048511 well i guess that was all the questions D9eX6kk5AeM-00160-00048512-00048630 answered D9eX6kk5AeM-00161-00048631-00049023 and thank you guys so much for 500 subs D9eX6kk5AeM-00162-00049024-00049430 uh if you wanna if you want you can join D9eX6kk5AeM-00163-00049431-00049583 my discord server D9eX6kk5AeM-00164-00049584-00049702 it's in the link somewhere in the 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[Applause] Dqbn3g7PdKA-00002-00000967-00001111 hello everyone welcome to the cube Dqbn3g7PdKA-00003-00001112-00001239 conversation here in palo alto Dqbn3g7PdKA-00004-00001240-00001391 california i'm john furrier Dqbn3g7PdKA-00005-00001392-00001558 host of thecube we got a special Dqbn3g7PdKA-00006-00001559-00001791 breaking news at scale has Dqbn3g7PdKA-00007-00001792-00001998 hired a new ceo chris lynch is the big Dqbn3g7PdKA-00008-00002000-00002207 news and taking over dave mariano with Dqbn3g7PdKA-00009-00002208-00002295 the evp Dqbn3g7PdKA-00010-00002296-00002599 of technology important because one Dqbn3g7PdKA-00011-00002600-00002910 cube alumni and also we've seen about Dqbn3g7PdKA-00012-00002911-00003039 all the big data events doing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00013-00003040-00003303 amazing work in the cloud scale data Dqbn3g7PdKA-00014-00003304-00003431 market for many many years we're very Dqbn3g7PdKA-00015-00003432-00003470 familiar Dqbn3g7PdKA-00016-00003471-00003775 at scale both david and chris lynch both Dqbn3g7PdKA-00017-00003776-00003927 cube alumni chris great to see you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00018-00003928-00004063 congratulations Dqbn3g7PdKA-00019-00004064-00004406 new ceo of atscale thanks john i really Dqbn3g7PdKA-00020-00004407-00004535 appreciate being here Dqbn3g7PdKA-00021-00004536-00004743 so um we know each other you've been on Dqbn3g7PdKA-00022-00004744-00004943 the cube before you're formerly the ceo Dqbn3g7PdKA-00023-00004944-00005215 of vertica sold to hp other ceos before Dqbn3g7PdKA-00024-00005216-00005367 that also a venture capitalist at Dqbn3g7PdKA-00025-00005368-00005606 atlas ventures for that distinguished Dqbn3g7PdKA-00026-00005607-00005759 career why Dqbn3g7PdKA-00027-00005760-00006006 this move right now what's attracted you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00028-00006007-00006199 to at scale take over the helm Dqbn3g7PdKA-00029-00006200-00006311 from the co-founder who will be Dqbn3g7PdKA-00030-00006312-00006503 partnering with you on this it's a great Dqbn3g7PdKA-00031-00006504-00006591 question Dqbn3g7PdKA-00032-00006592-00006863 um i'm still asking myself that but i Dqbn3g7PdKA-00033-00006864-00007023 think what it comes down to is Dqbn3g7PdKA-00034-00007023-00007270 i met dave years ago when i was at atlas Dqbn3g7PdKA-00035-00007272-00007367 and um Dqbn3g7PdKA-00036-00007368-00007510 it didn't work out the time for us to Dqbn3g7PdKA-00037-00007511-00007703 make an investment but i tracked the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00038-00007704-00007887 company and what they were doing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00039-00007888-00008223 and i left accomplished a little over a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00040-00008224-00008335 year ago Dqbn3g7PdKA-00041-00008336-00008542 and working with some companies out in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00042-00008543-00008727 the west coast app and be out here and i Dqbn3g7PdKA-00043-00008728-00008878 reached out to dave and said hey you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00044-00008879-00008999 want to grab dinner Dqbn3g7PdKA-00045-00009000-00009271 which we did and um by the end of the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00046-00009272-00009431 evening he was like you know Dqbn3g7PdKA-00047-00009432-00009614 you should come help us really Dqbn3g7PdKA-00048-00009615-00009767 commercialize this and take it to the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00049-00009768-00009863 next level Dqbn3g7PdKA-00050-00009864-00009999 they've been on our radar they've been Dqbn3g7PdKA-00051-00010000-00010127 on our radar for a while obviously i Dqbn3g7PdKA-00052-00010128-00010287 mean david at hadoop summit i think Dqbn3g7PdKA-00053-00010288-00010455 three four years ago and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00054-00010456-00010574 he was formerly a cloud we kind of hit Dqbn3g7PdKA-00055-00010575-00010767 it off clearly a big data um Dqbn3g7PdKA-00056-00010768-00010974 visionary and also entrepreneur but they Dqbn3g7PdKA-00057-00010975-00011103 had a unique Dqbn3g7PdKA-00058-00011104-00011295 model at that time hadoop was certainly Dqbn3g7PdKA-00059-00011296-00011438 viewed as you know Dqbn3g7PdKA-00060-00011439-00011614 the king of the castle for in big data Dqbn3g7PdKA-00061-00011615-00011759 at that time but Dqbn3g7PdKA-00062-00011760-00011927 cloud scale wasn't on everyone's radar Dqbn3g7PdKA-00063-00011928-00012046 on the mainstream they had a unique Dqbn3g7PdKA-00064-00012047-00012191 perspective Dqbn3g7PdKA-00065-00012192-00012367 has anything changed with the tech is Dqbn3g7PdKA-00066-00012368-00012542 that what's attracted to you the scaled Dqbn3g7PdKA-00067-00012543-00012670 piece of it what's the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00068-00012671-00012822 what's the secret sauce that that got Dqbn3g7PdKA-00069-00012823-00013079 you enticing so Dqbn3g7PdKA-00070-00013080-00013255 so i'm aware of the company's history Dqbn3g7PdKA-00071-00013256-00013447 that's not what got me interested Dqbn3g7PdKA-00072-00013447-00013671 um what got me interested is i think Dqbn3g7PdKA-00073-00013672-00013879 that they're the only player today in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00074-00013880-00014103 in the market that has a production Dqbn3g7PdKA-00075-00014104-00014207 product that can actually Dqbn3g7PdKA-00076-00014208-00014527 take customers from the data center to Dqbn3g7PdKA-00077-00014528-00014758 the cloud and do so transparently Dqbn3g7PdKA-00078-00014759-00014983 and i liken it to what we did at copia Dqbn3g7PdKA-00079-00014984-00015103 we virtualized Dqbn3g7PdKA-00080-00015104-00015343 file systems and frankly when we Dqbn3g7PdKA-00081-00015344-00015511 virtualized http Dqbn3g7PdKA-00082-00015512-00015783 traffic at arrow point so the idea of an Dqbn3g7PdKA-00083-00015784-00015958 abstraction layer a federation layer Dqbn3g7PdKA-00084-00015959-00016094 made sense to me Dqbn3g7PdKA-00085-00016095-00016383 and um you know as a venture capitalist Dqbn3g7PdKA-00086-00016384-00016463 i've seen Dqbn3g7PdKA-00087-00016464-00016671 the lack of adoption of big data Dqbn3g7PdKA-00088-00016672-00016783 workloads Dqbn3g7PdKA-00089-00016784-00017039 in the cloud you know there's a 200 Dqbn3g7PdKA-00090-00017040-00017222 billion dollar opportunity i think these Dqbn3g7PdKA-00091-00017223-00017294 guys are Dqbn3g7PdKA-00092-00017295-00017511 uniquely qualified to take advantage of Dqbn3g7PdKA-00093-00017512-00017703 it so that's really what drove me from a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00094-00017704-00017927 from a business perspective i see this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00095-00017928-00018071 opportunities unique Dqbn3g7PdKA-00096-00018072-00018207 versus anything i've seen on either Dqbn3g7PdKA-00097-00018208-00018407 coast we get a great reputation as an Dqbn3g7PdKA-00098-00018408-00018607 operator also someone who can manage Dqbn3g7PdKA-00099-00018608-00018830 and operate businesses and grow them and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00100-00018831-00019007 ultimately you have some great exits in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00101-00019008-00019079 your day Dqbn3g7PdKA-00102-00019080-00019319 vertica is well known in in the history Dqbn3g7PdKA-00103-00019320-00019383 of tech Dqbn3g7PdKA-00104-00019384-00019558 for two reasons one is it was probably Dqbn3g7PdKA-00105-00019559-00019719 the best deal hp Dqbn3g7PdKA-00106-00019720-00019855 ever has ever done on acquisition Dqbn3g7PdKA-00107-00019856-00020079 value-wise also it was before and during Dqbn3g7PdKA-00108-00020080-00020207 the whole vertica Dqbn3g7PdKA-00109-00020208-00020439 and autonomy autonomy acquisition was Dqbn3g7PdKA-00110-00020440-00020550 billions of dollars Dqbn3g7PdKA-00111-00020551-00020711 so and they ended up throwing that away Dqbn3g7PdKA-00112-00020712-00020855 keeping vertica and that became the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00113-00020856-00020958 flagship Dqbn3g7PdKA-00114-00020959-00021214 so you've seen how companies can take a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00115-00021215-00021311 wave Dqbn3g7PdKA-00116-00021312-00021455 and get in the right position you've Dqbn3g7PdKA-00117-00021456-00021678 done that with stone breaker in the past Dqbn3g7PdKA-00118-00021679-00021919 founder of vertica do you get the same Dqbn3g7PdKA-00119-00021920-00022047 movement here with this company it's the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00120-00022048-00022207 same playbook what's different is it the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00121-00022208-00022255 same Dqbn3g7PdKA-00122-00022256-00022414 what's the opportunity for this company Dqbn3g7PdKA-00123-00022415-00022558 so i think the opportunity for this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00124-00022559-00022703 company is different Dqbn3g7PdKA-00125-00022704-00022950 at vertica it was about executing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00126-00022951-00023022 against Dqbn3g7PdKA-00127-00023023-00023150 the excellent product that they had Dqbn3g7PdKA-00128-00023151-00023319 built in a known market they were Dqbn3g7PdKA-00129-00023320-00023455 targeted for Dqbn3g7PdKA-00130-00023456-00023791 my vision for at scale is to move beyond Dqbn3g7PdKA-00131-00023792-00024071 the data lake hadoop market and really Dqbn3g7PdKA-00132-00024072-00024119 take Dqbn3g7PdKA-00133-00024120-00024399 all the legacy warehousing vendors to Dqbn3g7PdKA-00134-00024400-00024471 the cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00135-00024472-00024639 cloud proof those solutions behind the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00136-00024640-00024878 firewall and begin to deliver those Dqbn3g7PdKA-00137-00024879-00025022 workloads in earnest Dqbn3g7PdKA-00138-00025023-00025239 to the cloud transparent to the user Dqbn3g7PdKA-00139-00025240-00025478 irrespective of the bi tool Dqbn3g7PdKA-00140-00025479-00025734 whether the the technology is behind the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00141-00025735-00025902 firewall in front of the firewall Dqbn3g7PdKA-00142-00025904-00026070 and i think that's a game changer Dqbn3g7PdKA-00143-00026072-00026183 certainly we've seen on the cube and the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00144-00026183-00026302 big conversation in the industry has Dqbn3g7PdKA-00145-00026304-00026487 been hybrid cloud multi-cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00146-00026488-00026702 but if you squint through that those Dqbn3g7PdKA-00147-00026704-00026831 trend lines it's really about Dqbn3g7PdKA-00148-00026832-00026974 integration right so you mentioned Dqbn3g7PdKA-00149-00026975-00027199 getting people to the cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00150-00027200-00027367 how big is that right now from an action Dqbn3g7PdKA-00151-00027368-00027502 standpoint is it is it Dqbn3g7PdKA-00152-00027504-00027767 accelerating is it early stages where is Dqbn3g7PdKA-00153-00027768-00027879 the progress bar on Dqbn3g7PdKA-00154-00027880-00028079 companies accelerating to the cloud it's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00155-00028080-00028199 it's stalled frankly because Dqbn3g7PdKA-00156-00028200-00028390 there are thousands of tens of thousands Dqbn3g7PdKA-00157-00028391-00028543 of applications Dqbn3g7PdKA-00158-00028544-00028879 in the fortune 500 that the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00159-00028880-00029070 the ability to take those applications Dqbn3g7PdKA-00160-00029072-00029270 and that data and move it to the cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00161-00029272-00029574 is it's on par with trying to operate Dqbn3g7PdKA-00162-00029575-00029767 do heart surgery on a patient while Dqbn3g7PdKA-00163-00029768-00029935 they're running the boston marathon Dqbn3g7PdKA-00164-00029936-00030079 so it's too difficult it's too Dqbn3g7PdKA-00165-00030080-00030311 disruptive to a business too risky Dqbn3g7PdKA-00166-00030312-00030502 what we do is we create a federation Dqbn3g7PdKA-00167-00030503-00030631 layer Dqbn3g7PdKA-00168-00030632-00030799 that basically abstracts all that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00169-00030800-00030943 complexity from the user Dqbn3g7PdKA-00170-00030944-00031207 and makes that transition transparent so Dqbn3g7PdKA-00171-00031208-00031311 to the user Dqbn3g7PdKA-00172-00031312-00031479 they don't have to care whether it's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00173-00031480-00031614 behind the firewall in front of the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00174-00031616-00031895 firewall what cloud it sits on Dqbn3g7PdKA-00175-00031895-00032158 what analytics store you're drawing from Dqbn3g7PdKA-00176-00032160-00032270 what bi tool Dqbn3g7PdKA-00177-00032272-00032462 it doesn't matter to the user so they've Dqbn3g7PdKA-00178-00032463-00032607 basically been able to separate those Dqbn3g7PdKA-00179-00032608-00032679 two things Dqbn3g7PdKA-00180-00032680-00032815 and that's going to allow people to Dqbn3g7PdKA-00181-00032816-00033031 scale and evolve into Dqbn3g7PdKA-00182-00033032-00033207 the cloud right today cloud is a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00183-00033208-00033367 revolution not an evolution it needs to Dqbn3g7PdKA-00184-00033368-00033455 be an evolution Dqbn3g7PdKA-00185-00033456-00033607 for fortune 500 companies to take Dqbn3g7PdKA-00186-00033608-00033743 advantage of it i got to ask you the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00187-00033744-00033799 hard question Dqbn3g7PdKA-00188-00033800-00033935 because ultimately let amazon they're Dqbn3g7PdKA-00189-00033936-00034087 kicking ass 10 ways from saturday Dqbn3g7PdKA-00190-00034088-00034207 they're obviously the numbers are off Dqbn3g7PdKA-00191-00034208-00034343 the chart even in public sectors just Dqbn3g7PdKA-00192-00034344-00034462 down there last week Dqbn3g7PdKA-00193-00034463-00034646 you got azure retooling and essentially Dqbn3g7PdKA-00194-00034647-00034774 they're going to try to replicate the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00195-00034775-00034974 the uh the congress of scale i think Dqbn3g7PdKA-00196-00034975-00035071 they're going to have a hard time but Dqbn3g7PdKA-00197-00035072-00035135 still Dqbn3g7PdKA-00198-00035136-00035287 no they're not going anywhere either and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00199-00035288-00035462 you get google changing the game Dqbn3g7PdKA-00200-00035463-00035615 focusing on their core competencies and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00201-00035616-00035759 where they can differentiate Dqbn3g7PdKA-00202-00035760-00036030 all that is potentially competition so Dqbn3g7PdKA-00203-00036031-00036159 this company at scale Dqbn3g7PdKA-00204-00036160-00036302 they definitely have tech chops so Dqbn3g7PdKA-00205-00036303-00036446 that's you know we know the team there Dqbn3g7PdKA-00206-00036447-00036623 so they had a lot of credit for that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00207-00036624-00036790 but 25 million dollars raised in their Dqbn3g7PdKA-00208-00036791-00036959 last round of funding total capital day Dqbn3g7PdKA-00209-00036960-00037079 45 million Dqbn3g7PdKA-00210-00037080-00037230 how are you going to compete how are you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00211-00037231-00037439 going to take this and commercialize Dqbn3g7PdKA-00212-00037440-00037567 this opportunity and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00213-00037568-00037839 not be driftwood instead ride that wave Dqbn3g7PdKA-00214-00037840-00037951 it's a terrific question Dqbn3g7PdKA-00215-00037952-00038143 i actually think that one of the things Dqbn3g7PdKA-00216-00038144-00038311 that excites me about this opportunity Dqbn3g7PdKA-00217-00038312-00038423 it's the first Dqbn3g7PdKA-00218-00038424-00038607 opportunity as an operator that i've had Dqbn3g7PdKA-00219-00038608-00038799 that i haven't been in the david goliath Dqbn3g7PdKA-00220-00038800-00038846 thing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00221-00038847-00038990 i actually don't think that any of those Dqbn3g7PdKA-00222-00038991-00039151 people are competitors i think when Dqbn3g7PdKA-00223-00039152-00039279 atscale wins Dqbn3g7PdKA-00224-00039280-00039630 bi vendors win traditional Dqbn3g7PdKA-00225-00039631-00039895 data stores win and the cloud provider Dqbn3g7PdKA-00226-00039896-00040079 wins and ultimately the customer wins Dqbn3g7PdKA-00227-00040080-00040279 so my view is all those companies you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00228-00040280-00040462 mentioned if google wants to be relevant Dqbn3g7PdKA-00229-00040463-00040551 in the enterprise Dqbn3g7PdKA-00230-00040552-00040695 they need to get those big data Dqbn3g7PdKA-00231-00040696-00040879 workloads to their cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00232-00040880-00041151 we can do that we can continue to help Dqbn3g7PdKA-00233-00041152-00041383 amazon do that we can help oracle secure Dqbn3g7PdKA-00234-00041384-00041558 cloud do that we can help microsoft do Dqbn3g7PdKA-00235-00041559-00041599 that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00236-00041600-00041830 and all the time we're future proofing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00237-00041831-00042102 the legacy data stores of the teradatas Dqbn3g7PdKA-00238-00042103-00042351 and the oracles and the ibms so this is Dqbn3g7PdKA-00239-00042352-00042535 the first opportunity that i've seen Dqbn3g7PdKA-00240-00042536-00042871 where the game isn't to go disrupt and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00241-00042872-00043143 call out the competition it's to work Dqbn3g7PdKA-00242-00043144-00043367 with all these people to drive workloads Dqbn3g7PdKA-00243-00043368-00043487 to the cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00244-00043488-00043695 in a in a scale that hasn't been done Dqbn3g7PdKA-00245-00043696-00043830 before so you'd have to unseat anyone Dqbn3g7PdKA-00246-00043831-00043958 you've got to ride the cloud wave pretty Dqbn3g7PdKA-00247-00043959-00044030 much Dqbn3g7PdKA-00248-00044031-00044215 yeah we have to we have to demonstrate Dqbn3g7PdKA-00249-00044216-00044407 to these guys that we do what we say we Dqbn3g7PdKA-00250-00044408-00044718 we do um but my view is when we win Dqbn3g7PdKA-00251-00044719-00044902 all those participants can potentially Dqbn3g7PdKA-00252-00044903-00045158 win awesome how about uh staff funding Dqbn3g7PdKA-00253-00045159-00045255 you feel good that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00254-00045256-00045374 enough try powder in there is there Dqbn3g7PdKA-00255-00045375-00045558 another round of funding on the horizon Dqbn3g7PdKA-00256-00045559-00045823 or yeah i mean you know i haven't even Dqbn3g7PdKA-00257-00045824-00045927 started yet but Dqbn3g7PdKA-00258-00045928-00046135 you know my expectation is that in this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00259-00046136-00046423 marketplace with my track record raising Dqbn3g7PdKA-00260-00046424-00046574 capital or attracting capital will not Dqbn3g7PdKA-00261-00046575-00046655 be an issue Dqbn3g7PdKA-00262-00046656-00046830 it'll be about figuring out the business Dqbn3g7PdKA-00263-00046831-00046983 model and making sure it's right Dqbn3g7PdKA-00264-00046984-00047158 and then investing behind that business Dqbn3g7PdKA-00265-00047159-00047374 model it's enough cash now certainly do Dqbn3g7PdKA-00266-00047375-00047446 that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00267-00047447-00047607 talk about the boston california you're Dqbn3g7PdKA-00268-00047608-00047790 going to stay in boston that's news Dqbn3g7PdKA-00269-00047791-00047951 companies based in california Dqbn3g7PdKA-00270-00047952-00048135 you have a pedigree in boston certainly Dqbn3g7PdKA-00271-00048136-00048302 and being a vc down there but also Dqbn3g7PdKA-00272-00048303-00048455 you run businesses down there there's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00273-00048456-00048630 talent down there is there plans for a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00274-00048631-00048758 boston expansion Dqbn3g7PdKA-00275-00048759-00048990 a boston bi-coastal situation what's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00276-00048991-00049086 their opportunity Dqbn3g7PdKA-00277-00049087-00049295 so the company will remain headquartered Dqbn3g7PdKA-00278-00049296-00049430 in san mateo Dqbn3g7PdKA-00279-00049431-00049615 and i'll take up residence here and i'll Dqbn3g7PdKA-00280-00049616-00049774 go back and forth so my family's not Dqbn3g7PdKA-00281-00049775-00049902 moving so i'll have a residence in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00282-00049903-00049974 boston Dqbn3g7PdKA-00283-00049975-00050199 and one here um but you can absolutely Dqbn3g7PdKA-00284-00050200-00050343 expect that i'm going to leverage Dqbn3g7PdKA-00285-00050344-00050646 the ecosystem that i've grown up in and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00286-00050647-00050830 we will have a significant presence on Dqbn3g7PdKA-00287-00050831-00050958 the east coast Dqbn3g7PdKA-00288-00050959-00051135 awesome chris final question machine Dqbn3g7PdKA-00289-00051136-00051319 learning you guys were close to that for Dqbn3g7PdKA-00290-00051320-00051446 a long time at vertica you guys were Dqbn3g7PdKA-00291-00051447-00051550 doing some of the most Dqbn3g7PdKA-00292-00051551-00051687 cutting-edge machine learning before it Dqbn3g7PdKA-00293-00051688-00051894 became super popular as it is now as Dqbn3g7PdKA-00294-00051895-00052063 they call it ai now but essentially Dqbn3g7PdKA-00295-00052064-00052246 that was the beginning of the commodore Dqbn3g7PdKA-00296-00052247-00052407 store database which you guys pioneered Dqbn3g7PdKA-00297-00052408-00052599 speed and using data for competitive Dqbn3g7PdKA-00298-00052600-00052863 advantage how is that now scaled up in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00299-00052864-00052991 the market now how Dqbn3g7PdKA-00300-00052991-00053294 how robust is it how mature is it how Dqbn3g7PdKA-00301-00053295-00053503 ready is it and how does atscale take Dqbn3g7PdKA-00302-00053504-00053647 advantage of of that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00303-00053648-00053959 of that growth so i think that the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00304-00053960-00054150 world of data science in general has Dqbn3g7PdKA-00305-00054151-00054294 matured Dqbn3g7PdKA-00306-00054295-00054463 if you look at one of my proudest Dqbn3g7PdKA-00307-00054464-00054671 investments company called data robot Dqbn3g7PdKA-00308-00054672-00054815 they are the leaders in automated Dqbn3g7PdKA-00309-00054816-00055015 machine learning and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00310-00055016-00055263 their business is growing triple digits Dqbn3g7PdKA-00311-00055264-00055438 every year Dqbn3g7PdKA-00312-00055439-00055679 the level of adoption is really only Dqbn3g7PdKA-00313-00055679-00055807 gated by Dqbn3g7PdKA-00314-00055808-00056111 practitioners and people to apply the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00315-00056112-00056287 technology to these business problems Dqbn3g7PdKA-00316-00056288-00056607 but it's gaining incredible momentum Dqbn3g7PdKA-00317-00056608-00057007 for us i plan to integrate automated ai Dqbn3g7PdKA-00318-00057008-00057215 into components of our architecture Dqbn3g7PdKA-00319-00057216-00057399 which i think makes it really a game Dqbn3g7PdKA-00320-00057400-00057454 changer Dqbn3g7PdKA-00321-00057455-00057791 so of course we expect competition um Dqbn3g7PdKA-00322-00057791-00057991 but by the time that you know they get Dqbn3g7PdKA-00323-00057991-00058166 you know 100 miles behind us Dqbn3g7PdKA-00324-00058167-00058279 you know we're going to hit that what's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00325-00058279-00058391 that button that you have in those Dqbn3g7PdKA-00326-00058391-00058542 teslas you guys drive out here Dqbn3g7PdKA-00327-00058544-00058807 insane mode and it'll be automated Dqbn3g7PdKA-00328-00058808-00059015 machine learning will be powering that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00329-00059016-00059135 what's your impression of the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00330-00059136-00059326 marketplace right now is that um Dqbn3g7PdKA-00331-00059327-00059542 you know obviously you're seeing global Dqbn3g7PdKA-00332-00059544-00059799 landscape you know we see Dqbn3g7PdKA-00333-00059800-00059982 the china situation going on asia a lot Dqbn3g7PdKA-00334-00059983-00060182 of activity a lot of growth outside the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00335-00060183-00060294 united states Dqbn3g7PdKA-00336-00060295-00060454 um and obviously cloud you're seeing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00337-00060455-00060663 region specialties any thoughts Dqbn3g7PdKA-00338-00060664-00060823 on how that's going to play into it is Dqbn3g7PdKA-00339-00060824-00060950 it not relevant to you guys right now Dqbn3g7PdKA-00340-00060951-00061006 what's the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00341-00061007-00061119 what's your thoughts on the global Dqbn3g7PdKA-00342-00061120-00061311 landscape i mean i think it's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00343-00061312-00061463 it's relevant to everyone because i Dqbn3g7PdKA-00344-00061464-00061615 think it's what's driving Dqbn3g7PdKA-00345-00061616-00061887 valuations and this influx of money Dqbn3g7PdKA-00346-00061888-00062030 coming from these different places i Dqbn3g7PdKA-00347-00062032-00062223 mean if if you look at the middle east Dqbn3g7PdKA-00348-00062224-00062359 you know they're writing checks to any Dqbn3g7PdKA-00349-00062360-00062542 sort of tech company they can Dqbn3g7PdKA-00350-00062544-00062791 because they're pr trying to divest of Dqbn3g7PdKA-00351-00062791-00062966 what they know is a dead business Dqbn3g7PdKA-00352-00062967-00063238 right so that's going to drive Dqbn3g7PdKA-00353-00063239-00063430 valuations it's going to drive Dqbn3g7PdKA-00354-00063432-00063719 in my opinion um a lack of discipline Dqbn3g7PdKA-00355-00063720-00063750 and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00356-00063751-00063999 and bad behavior as we've seen you know Dqbn3g7PdKA-00357-00064000-00064271 in 2000 and other times in 2008 Dqbn3g7PdKA-00358-00064272-00064463 um i think for us as a company we're Dqbn3g7PdKA-00359-00064464-00064735 going to be disciplined and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00360-00064736-00064863 you know the fact that we can raise Dqbn3g7PdKA-00361-00064864-00064999 money and raise money attractive Dqbn3g7PdKA-00362-00065000-00065191 valuations isn't a reason to do it Dqbn3g7PdKA-00363-00065191-00065319 if you have a business model of fund Dqbn3g7PdKA-00364-00065320-00065526 that's a reason to do it so Dqbn3g7PdKA-00365-00065527-00065647 you know i don't think it'll be a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00366-00065648-00065831 distraction for us but i think Dqbn3g7PdKA-00367-00065832-00066071 it will increase you know the amount of Dqbn3g7PdKA-00368-00066072-00066150 noise in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00369-00066151-00066335 all the key markets and i think cyber Dqbn3g7PdKA-00370-00066336-00066479 we've seen it you know Dqbn3g7PdKA-00371-00066480-00066806 ai for sure um iot Dqbn3g7PdKA-00372-00066807-00066926 bitcoin all these what's the most Dqbn3g7PdKA-00373-00066927-00067047 exciting thing in the data business Dqbn3g7PdKA-00374-00067048-00067238 that's as it evolves now to the center Dqbn3g7PdKA-00375-00067239-00067455 value proposition that you see and as Dqbn3g7PdKA-00376-00067456-00067575 the ceo now Dqbn3g7PdKA-00377-00067576-00067911 of at scala you're going to capture this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00378-00067912-00068175 i think i would say two things in the in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00379-00068176-00068215 the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00380-00068216-00068471 ai machine learning space i think the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00381-00068472-00068591 fact that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00382-00068592-00068831 with democratization of data you're now Dqbn3g7PdKA-00383-00068832-00068959 actually seeing Dqbn3g7PdKA-00384-00068960-00069294 people applying machine learning Dqbn3g7PdKA-00385-00069295-00069511 way broader in organizations and way Dqbn3g7PdKA-00386-00069512-00069655 deeper than ever before Dqbn3g7PdKA-00387-00069656-00069823 and that's going to transform businesses Dqbn3g7PdKA-00388-00069824-00069991 low-tech business as well as high-tech Dqbn3g7PdKA-00389-00069992-00070094 businesses Dqbn3g7PdKA-00390-00070095-00070526 for us i think that the real opportunity Dqbn3g7PdKA-00391-00070527-00070759 exists it's a question of just taking Dqbn3g7PdKA-00392-00070760-00070838 these Dqbn3g7PdKA-00393-00070839-00071143 lit these legacy workloads and moving Dqbn3g7PdKA-00394-00071144-00071238 them to the cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00395-00071239-00071447 and that's not a trivial task not just Dqbn3g7PdKA-00396-00071448-00071631 technically but um Dqbn3g7PdKA-00397-00071632-00071806 you always have to be sensitive to Dqbn3g7PdKA-00398-00071807-00072031 companies ability to absorb technology Dqbn3g7PdKA-00399-00072032-00072215 i think one of the challenges is you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00400-00072216-00072455 know you're trying to transform Dqbn3g7PdKA-00401-00072456-00072735 a business that you know basically was Dqbn3g7PdKA-00402-00072736-00072831 informed Dqbn3g7PdKA-00403-00072832-00073055 as it developed in technology that was Dqbn3g7PdKA-00404-00073056-00073191 1980. Dqbn3g7PdKA-00405-00073192-00073375 well chris congratulations on the ceo Dqbn3g7PdKA-00406-00073376-00073550 opportunity at at scale Dqbn3g7PdKA-00407-00073551-00073726 um what can people expect from you what Dqbn3g7PdKA-00408-00073727-00073911 what if you can write the narrative of Dqbn3g7PdKA-00409-00073912-00074055 the first couple moves off the line of Dqbn3g7PdKA-00410-00074056-00074143 scrimmage here Dqbn3g7PdKA-00411-00074144-00074294 what are you going to do what's your Dqbn3g7PdKA-00412-00074295-00074423 order of business what can they expect Dqbn3g7PdKA-00413-00074424-00074526 from you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00414-00074527-00074671 well the first thing i'd like to do Dqbn3g7PdKA-00415-00074672-00074838 after i meet the customers and the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00416-00074839-00074926 employees Dqbn3g7PdKA-00417-00074927-00075150 and the par existing partners is go out Dqbn3g7PdKA-00418-00075151-00075359 and get two significant partnerships Dqbn3g7PdKA-00419-00075360-00075567 i like to see a couple partnerships in Dqbn3g7PdKA-00420-00075568-00075759 cloud a couple partnerships Dqbn3g7PdKA-00421-00075760-00076111 with the classic data store vendors Dqbn3g7PdKA-00422-00076112-00076255 so that's probably going to be my first Dqbn3g7PdKA-00423-00076256-00076487 mission to get that moving and Dqbn3g7PdKA-00424-00076488-00076623 you know we'll see how quickly it goes Dqbn3g7PdKA-00425-00076624-00076847 but i think that's super important to do Dqbn3g7PdKA-00426-00076848-00076991 yeah and certainly scale right now has Dqbn3g7PdKA-00427-00076992-00077167 been a big competitive advantage here's Dqbn3g7PdKA-00428-00077168-00077319 a company at scale five year on their Dqbn3g7PdKA-00429-00077320-00077462 five year anniversary Dqbn3g7PdKA-00430-00077463-00077623 interesting gestation period for this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00431-00077624-00077767 big data world because hadoop you can Dqbn3g7PdKA-00432-00077768-00077950 look back into 2010 Dqbn3g7PdKA-00433-00077951-00078167 days hadoop was supposed to be the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00434-00078168-00078326 biggest thing since sliced bread Dqbn3g7PdKA-00435-00078327-00078487 but what happened was the world became Dqbn3g7PdKA-00436-00078488-00078679 bigger and from a date not just outside Dqbn3g7PdKA-00437-00078680-00078750 hadoop Dqbn3g7PdKA-00438-00078751-00078919 gave these guys an opportunity and their Dqbn3g7PdKA-00439-00078920-00079055 architecture fits well Dqbn3g7PdKA-00440-00079056-00079279 you see it's scaling quicker what's your Dqbn3g7PdKA-00441-00079280-00079406 what's your where's your point of scale Dqbn3g7PdKA-00442-00079407-00079479 how do you see this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00443-00079480-00079703 so i think i think that the company Dqbn3g7PdKA-00444-00079704-00079903 probably rightly so at the time Dqbn3g7PdKA-00445-00079904-00080215 hitch their wagon to hadoop Dqbn3g7PdKA-00446-00080216-00080406 but i think as you said it's it's really Dqbn3g7PdKA-00447-00080407-00080519 a subset Dqbn3g7PdKA-00448-00080520-00080694 of the data landscape and it's actually Dqbn3g7PdKA-00449-00080695-00080838 a pretty small one Dqbn3g7PdKA-00450-00080839-00081135 the real opportunity is in driving all Dqbn3g7PdKA-00451-00081136-00081247 the legacy Dqbn3g7PdKA-00452-00081248-00081438 data and analytics stores those islands Dqbn3g7PdKA-00453-00081439-00081615 of analytics and bringing them to the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00454-00081616-00081655 cloud Dqbn3g7PdKA-00455-00081656-00081838 and that like i said i think is a you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00456-00081839-00082031 know 100 billion dollar business Dqbn3g7PdKA-00457-00082032-00082150 well certainly great to see you Dqbn3g7PdKA-00458-00082151-00082303 congratulations getting back at the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00459-00082304-00082391 chief position Dqbn3g7PdKA-00460-00082392-00082582 and did a great job at vertica great Dqbn3g7PdKA-00461-00082583-00082726 journey we followed you on that one that Dqbn3g7PdKA-00462-00082727-00082799 was fantastic Dqbn3g7PdKA-00463-00082800-00082950 and then certainly watch it unfold Dqbn3g7PdKA-00464-00082951-00083191 certainly at hpe create a lot of value Dqbn3g7PdKA-00465-00083192-00083391 congratulations and at scale's got a Dqbn3g7PdKA-00466-00083392-00083518 good hire there congratulations Dqbn3g7PdKA-00467-00083519-00083638 thank you i appreciate it alright this Dqbn3g7PdKA-00468-00083639-00083799 is thecube conversation here inside the Dqbn3g7PdKA-00469-00083800-00083975 palo alto studios i'm john furrier Dqbn3g7PdKA-00470-00083976-00084264 thanks for watching Dqbn3g7PdKA-00471-00084265-00084983 [Music] DrdKip-Q-_k-00000-00001407-00001713 hey everyone ctntechnologynews here and DrdKip-Q-_k-00001-00001714-00001914 today I'm looking at the lenovo ideapad DrdKip-Q-_k-00002-00001914-00002232 yoga 2 then this is a 13 inch Windows 8 DrdKip-Q-_k-00003-00002233-00002493 convertible that basically folds all the DrdKip-Q-_k-00004-00002494-00002736 way around to form a tablet now the DrdKip-Q-_k-00005-00002737-00002997 coolest thing on this laptop is probably 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Dxia6kVzExo-00007-00002874-00003113 other cards out there the Plastics on Dxia6kVzExo-00008-00003114-00003299 their fenders and on their trims of Dxia6kVzExo-00009-00003300-00003443 their car the front bumpers the rear Dxia6kVzExo-00010-00003444-00003635 bumpers they just look absolutely Dxia6kVzExo-00011-00003636-00003761 absolutely Dxia6kVzExo-00012-00003761-00003983 they look horrible they get faded Dxia6kVzExo-00013-00003984-00004120 and they get neglected and they go all Dxia6kVzExo-00014-00004121-00004319 white and crispy looking they look Dxia6kVzExo-00015-00004320-00004504 horrible so a lot of people go through Dxia6kVzExo-00016-00004505-00004877 and use like a um say down Zone Mr black Dxia6kVzExo-00017-00004878-00005045 or like some sort of like trim restore Dxia6kVzExo-00018-00005046-00005249 stuff they'll use the button's OWN on Dxia6kVzExo-00019-00005250-00005447 the Jeep in the past and it's been Dxia6kVzExo-00020-00005448-00005752 almost it'll be three years in May that Dxia6kVzExo-00021-00005753-00005956 we restore this for those uh fenders Dxia6kVzExo-00022-00005957-00006136 with belton's own Mr Black and the look Dxia6kVzExo-00023-00006137-00006395 great uh they look great sorry so if you Dxia6kVzExo-00024-00006396-00006550 guys want to check that video out it'll Dxia6kVzExo-00025-00006551-00006737 be just up here in this top Corner if Dxia6kVzExo-00026-00006738-00006845 you want to check that out they have Dxia6kVzExo-00027-00006845-00007019 looked really good for most part they Dxia6kVzExo-00028-00007020-00007210 look absolutely fantastic and it's done Dxia6kVzExo-00029-00007211-00007420 an amazing job a lot of the turmeric Dxia6kVzExo-00030-00007422-00007564 stores kind of last Dxia6kVzExo-00031-00007565-00007877 three to six months maybe a year this Dxia6kVzExo-00032-00007878-00008045 has lasted almost three years and Dxia6kVzExo-00033-00008045-00008164 they're starting to fade just a little Dxia6kVzExo-00034-00008165-00008381 bit but we've actually picked up a Dxia6kVzExo-00035-00008382-00008549 second hand set of fenders that we're Dxia6kVzExo-00036-00008550-00008867 going to cut down and paint for the Jeep Dxia6kVzExo-00037-00008868-00009131 if you know the Jeep fenders They Don't Dxia6kVzExo-00038-00009132-00009239 Really they've got like a slight Dxia6kVzExo-00039-00009240-00009442 textured finish but I saw another jeep Dxia6kVzExo-00040-00009443-00009701 that had a really textured finish to Dxia6kVzExo-00041-00009702-00009899 their fenders and they look absolutely Dxia6kVzExo-00042-00009900-00010024 amazing one they're going to wear a lot Dxia6kVzExo-00043-00010025-00010139 better they're going to be a lot more Dxia6kVzExo-00044-00010140-00010306 gonna be a lot rougher like when you're Dxia6kVzExo-00045-00010307-00010391 out on the trailers and you're up Dxia6kVzExo-00046-00010392-00010510 against branches and stuff like that Dxia6kVzExo-00047-00010511-00010763 they've been a lot easier to clean I Dxia6kVzExo-00048-00010764-00010906 find with these ones even though they've Dxia6kVzExo-00049-00010907-00011117 been restored with like a black Dxia6kVzExo-00050-00011118-00011387 um trimmer store they still seem to get Dxia6kVzExo-00051-00011388-00011585 dirty a lot so today I'm going to show Dxia6kVzExo-00052-00011586-00011771 you guys how to wrap the line your Dxia6kVzExo-00053-00011772-00012083 fingers on either your Jeep JK TJ or any Dxia6kVzExo-00054-00012084-00012310 other vehicle so how to paint faded Dxia6kVzExo-00055-00012311-00012599 plastic on your car so I'll be using uh Dxia6kVzExo-00056-00012600-00012857 reply multi-use protective coating now I Dxia6kVzExo-00057-00012858-00013055 got this from super cheap auto full Dxia6kVzExo-00058-00013056-00013222 price I thought this was the stuff was Dxia6kVzExo-00059-00013223-00013379 actually really expensive but we got Dxia6kVzExo-00060-00013380-00013627 this uh it's a 300 Dxia6kVzExo-00061-00013628-00013943 450 mil can and textured black and this Dxia6kVzExo-00062-00013944-00014165 is 27 I will leave a link to the Dxia6kVzExo-00063-00014166-00014393 Superchip Auto Link down below actually Dxia6kVzExo-00064-00014394-00014525 really cheap stuff and we've used this Dxia6kVzExo-00065-00014526-00014680 on multiple things Dxia6kVzExo-00066-00014681-00014861 um so be extending the fenders down that Dxia6kVzExo-00067-00014862-00015058 we've got and re-wrapped the lining them Dxia6kVzExo-00068-00015059-00015335 with the Draco line so you can buy this Dxia6kVzExo-00069-00015336-00015472 all over the world they've got different Dxia6kVzExo-00070-00015473-00015616 places you can buy them from so if Dxia6kVzExo-00071-00015618-00015725 you're in America you can buy it from Dxia6kVzExo-00072-00015726-00015869 the American Store New Zealand New Dxia6kVzExo-00073-00015869-00016066 Zealand store wherever Indonesia they've Dxia6kVzExo-00074-00016068-00016229 got one as well because I'm gonna show Dxia6kVzExo-00075-00016230-00016361 you guys how to do that and they're Dxia6kVzExo-00076-00016362-00016511 gonna look great so the first thing we Dxia6kVzExo-00077-00016512-00016672 want to do is I would not recommend Dxia6kVzExo-00078-00016673-00016858 doing this with your no that's not for Dxia6kVzExo-00079-00016859-00017153 you not not have kids in the garage when Dxia6kVzExo-00080-00017154-00017297 you first Do It Dxia6kVzExo-00081-00017298-00017447 um would actually take the fenders off Dxia6kVzExo-00082-00017448-00017675 your Jeep um I do have a video I believe Dxia6kVzExo-00083-00017676-00017939 just here if I can't find it maybe I Dxia6kVzExo-00084-00017940-00018047 don't there's lots of videos out there Dxia6kVzExo-00085-00018048-00018221 but I'd actually remove the fenders from Dxia6kVzExo-00086-00018222-00018400 your Jeep because this stuff is a pain Dxia6kVzExo-00087-00018401-00018658 in the ass to get off if you get it on Dxia6kVzExo-00088-00018659-00018839 like overspray or on your car if you Dxia6kVzExo-00089-00018840-00019091 don't want it so I'd actually unless Dxia6kVzExo-00090-00019092-00019211 you're really good at masking off Dxia6kVzExo-00091-00019212-00019444 I'm not Dxia6kVzExo-00092-00019445-00019589 um so I've actually remove the fenders Dxia6kVzExo-00093-00019590-00019739 it's not that hard it only takes a few Dxia6kVzExo-00094-00019740-00019961 minutes so I would recommend doing that Dxia6kVzExo-00095-00019962-00020129 um and then we'll show you guys there's Dxia6kVzExo-00096-00020130-00020327 not much masking off to do remove the Dxia6kVzExo-00097-00020328-00020572 inner guard um and the lights as well so Dxia6kVzExo-00098-00020573-00020729 I'm going to actually show you on the Dxia6kVzExo-00099-00020730-00020903 set of secondhand thinners that we've Dxia6kVzExo-00100-00020904-00021107 got we've got these for 50 bucks Dxia6kVzExo-00101-00021108-00021250 um because we're going to see how an Dxia6kVzExo-00102-00021251-00021413 actual funnish product is and then we Dxia6kVzExo-00103-00021414-00021497 feel like then we're going to swap them Dxia6kVzExo-00104-00021498-00021677 over to the ones on the Jeeps we never Dxia6kVzExo-00105-00021678-00021863 have to worry about again this also Dxia6kVzExo-00106-00021864-00022150 works for your bumpers side steps roofs Dxia6kVzExo-00107-00022151-00022355 stuff like that so anyway let's get on Dxia6kVzExo-00108-00022356-00022444 to it we're going to sand them down Dxia6kVzExo-00109-00022445-00022541 first and then we're going to give them Dxia6kVzExo-00110-00022542-00022685 a few coats of Ripple on it and we're Dxia6kVzExo-00111-00022686-00022883 going to see how they look Dxia6kVzExo-00112-00022884-00023209 along Dxia6kVzExo-00113-00023210-00023483 [Music] Dxia6kVzExo-00114-00023484-00023769 anymore Dxia6kVzExo-00115-00023770-00026579 [Music] Dxia6kVzExo-00116-00026580-00026819 foreign Dxia6kVzExo-00118-00029916-00030157 thank you Dxia6kVzExo-00119-00030158-00031768 [Music] Dxia6kVzExo-00120-00031769-00032206 foreign Dxia6kVzExo-00121-00032207-00034787 [Music] Dxia6kVzExo-00122-00034788-00034962 cute Dxia6kVzExo-00123-00034963-00035255 all right all done and Dustin and it's Dxia6kVzExo-00124-00035256-00035489 looking absolutely mint there's a few Dxia6kVzExo-00125-00035490-00035723 spots that I did and I kind of stuffed Dxia6kVzExo-00126-00035724-00035879 up a little bit look I'm not the best Dxia6kVzExo-00127-00035880-00036131 painter in the world and bench can pray Dxia6kVzExo-00128-00036132-00036323 say that as well we're both pretty crap Dxia6kVzExo-00129-00036324-00036581 but the best thing about rapline is that Dxia6kVzExo-00130-00036582-00036761 you don't have to be good for a good Dxia6kVzExo-00131-00036762-00036989 result because it's textured and kind of Dxia6kVzExo-00132-00036990-00037318 like a rough look to it that even if you Dxia6kVzExo-00133-00037319-00037517 are really crap at painting you can even Dxia6kVzExo-00134-00037518-00037690 it out you can go over it again you can Dxia6kVzExo-00135-00037691-00037996 sand it back and you kind of hide all Dxia6kVzExo-00136-00037997-00038177 those small imperfections in the paint Dxia6kVzExo-00137-00038178-00038405 in your paintwork and with the wrap the Dxia6kVzExo-00138-00038406-00038627 line of can itself it's a no clogged Dxia6kVzExo-00139-00038628-00038807 nozzle so you don't have to keep wiping Dxia6kVzExo-00140-00038808-00039005 it off like the other cheaper brands of Dxia6kVzExo-00141-00039006-00039190 like kind of bed liner and Raptor liner Dxia6kVzExo-00142-00039191-00039340 so all in all really happy with the Dxia6kVzExo-00143-00039341-00039539 results of it I learned my lesson with Dxia6kVzExo-00144-00039540-00039712 the other ones I did so they came out a Dxia6kVzExo-00145-00039713-00039874 little bit better now this is also a Dxia6kVzExo-00146-00039875-00040067 great option if you don't want to keep Dxia6kVzExo-00147-00040068-00040330 doing the back to black on your fenders Dxia6kVzExo-00148-00040331-00040661 or you want more rough sort of Dxia6kVzExo-00149-00040662-00040871 aggressive looking Dxia6kVzExo-00150-00040872-00041062 um look because the ones on the Jeep Dxia6kVzExo-00151-00041063-00041351 Factory do have a small textured finish Dxia6kVzExo-00152-00041352-00041590 to it but obviously with the rep liner Dxia6kVzExo-00153-00041591-00041896 it's much more coarse a lot a lot more Dxia6kVzExo-00154-00041897-00042130 um coarse and harder wearing so Dxia6kVzExo-00155-00042131-00042329 definitely a great option all in all it Dxia6kVzExo-00156-00042330-00042533 didn't take very long they were off the Dxia6kVzExo-00157-00042534-00042755 Jeep to begin with as I said they were a Dxia6kVzExo-00158-00042756-00042940 secondhand set of fenders we got to see Dxia6kVzExo-00159-00042941-00043073 if we like the look Dxia6kVzExo-00160-00043074-00043240 and I love the look I really like them Dxia6kVzExo-00161-00043241-00043565 but also a big fan of the factory sort Dxia6kVzExo-00162-00043566-00043883 of style of the factory fenders as well Dxia6kVzExo-00163-00043884-00044039 so I don't know if we will put them on Dxia6kVzExo-00164-00044040-00044201 the car they do look good so if these Dxia6kVzExo-00165-00044202-00044315 ones get damaged to say we can Dxia6kVzExo-00166-00044316-00044495 definitely swap them over but all in all Dxia6kVzExo-00167-00044496-00044711 probably took a couple of hours it would Dxia6kVzExo-00168-00044712-00044830 probably take a couple of hours worth of Dxia6kVzExo-00169-00044831-00044974 taking your fenders off sending them Dxia6kVzExo-00170-00044975-00045179 down getting them ready so it's not too Dxia6kVzExo-00171-00045180-00045262 long Dxia6kVzExo-00172-00045263-00045461 um we did the best we can special with Dxia6kVzExo-00173-00045462-00045707 kids in the house obviously they only Dxia6kVzExo-00174-00045708-00045940 help for small portions of it but if you Dxia6kVzExo-00175-00045941-00046085 guys like this video um if you like this Dxia6kVzExo-00176-00046086-00046295 product the end result please leave a Dxia6kVzExo-00177-00046296-00046415 comment if you guys done this to your Dxia6kVzExo-00178-00046416-00046637 fenders and if you do like it hit the Dxia6kVzExo-00179-00046638-00046829 like button as well and as always I'll Dxia6kVzExo-00180-00046830-00047021 leave a link down below for the Raptor Dxia6kVzExo-00181-00047022-00047383 liner as well we bought our one from Dxia6kVzExo-00182-00047384-00047590 supercheap Auto that you can buy online Dxia6kVzExo-00183-00047591-00047837 or multiple stores around the world Dxia6kVzExo-00184-00047838-00048046 I've never got a few I've got a really Dxia6kVzExo-00185-00048047-00048179 good Instagram page as well that answers Dxia6kVzExo-00186-00048180-00048317 a lot of questions and stuff like that Dxia6kVzExo-00187-00048318-00048490 so all in our very happy with the result Dxia6kVzExo-00188-00048491-00048658 didn't take long at all um and it's 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limelight DzkQtxhdlyM-00048-00014695-00014894 these people are very much in demand DzkQtxhdlyM-00049-00014895-00015047 because they are very beautiful and DzkQtxhdlyM-00050-00015047-00015407 stylish DzkQtxhdlyM-00051-00015408-00015919 they are also very popular among men DzkQtxhdlyM-00052-00015919-00016119 they are very much in demand for the way DzkQtxhdlyM-00053-00016119-00016535 they dress and behave DzkQtxhdlyM-00054-00016536-00016694 they are very much in the limelight DzkQtxhdlyM-00055-00016695-00019590 because of the way they dress and behave DzkQtxhdlyM-00056-00019591-00021655 [Music] DzkQtxhdlyM-00057-00021656-00021927 [Music] DzkQtxhdlyM-00058-00021928-00022136 you D_2mpAh4zV8-00000-00000508-00000902 oh yes D_2mpAh4zV8-00001-00000903-00002866 [Music] D_6FpOYzezy-00000-00000049-00000300 the hochschule fir'd Technic owned were D_6FpOYzezy-00001-00000301-00000597 shaft University of Applied Sciences for D_6FpOYzezy-00002-00000598-00000927 engineering and economics or htw Berlin D_6FpOYzezy-00003-00000927-00001182 in Berlin Germany is the largest public D_6FpOYzezy-00004-00001183-00001475 university of applied sciences in Berlin D_6FpOYzezy-00005-00001476-00001868 and eastern Germany it has over 13,000 D_6FpOYzezy-00006-00001869-00002138 students and 70 programs in areas of D_6FpOYzezy-00007-00002139-00002370 engineering computer science business D_6FpOYzezy-00008-00002371-00003018 and graphic arts D_6FpOYzezy-00009-00003019-00003586 topic history D_6FpOYzezy-00010-00003586-00003899 htw as a result of several merging zuv D_6FpOYzezy-00011-00003900-00004231 pre-existing institutions D_6FpOYzezy-00012-00004232-00004514 1874 founding of the technical school D_6FpOYzezy-00013-00004515-00004804 for des montage montage and design which D_6FpOYzezy-00014-00004805-00005036 later became the textile in fashion D_6FpOYzezy-00015-00005037-00005311 school of berlin it then became the D_6FpOYzezy-00016-00005312-00005510 engineering school for clothing D_6FpOYzezy-00017-00005511-00005753 technology and was incorporated into the D_6FpOYzezy-00018-00005754-00006211 Engineering College of Berlin in 1990 D_6FpOYzezy-00019-00006212-00006488 1948 the engineering school for D_6FpOYzezy-00020-00006489-00006695 mechanical engineering Electrical D_6FpOYzezy-00021-00006695-00006910 Engineering and civil engineering was D_6FpOYzezy-00022-00006911-00007229 founded this was renamed the Engineering D_6FpOYzezy-00023-00007230-00007718 College in 1988 1950 the former Kant D_6FpOYzezy-00024-00007719-00007955 gymnasium high school was reinstituted D_6FpOYzezy-00025-00007956-00008335 as the Institute for planned economy in D_6FpOYzezy-00026-00008336-00008696 1954 this was renamed into economics D_6FpOYzezy-00027-00008697-00008957 College which was one of the premier D_6FpOYzezy-00028-00008958-00009148 institutes for Marxist Leninist D_6FpOYzezy-00029-00009149-00009388 economical studies and research in D_6FpOYzezy-00030-00009389-00009674 eastern Germany the last rector was D_6FpOYzezy-00031-00009675-00009932 christa Luft who was the last Minister D_6FpOYzezy-00032-00009933-00010099 for business in the German Democratic D_6FpOYzezy-00033-00010100-00010462 Republic this school was dissolved in D_6FpOYzezy-00034-00010463-00010930 1989 after the Berlin Wall came down D_6FpOYzezy-00035-00010931-00011230 1991 the Technische Hochschule berlin D_6FpOYzezy-00036-00011231-00011615 tfh was charged with founding the F htw D_6FpOYzezy-00037-00011616-00011855 unifying the engineering college and D_6FpOYzezy-00038-00011856-00012091 other colleges as well as the economics D_6FpOYzezy-00039-00012092-00012338 College located at five different places D_6FpOYzezy-00040-00012339-00012694 around the former East Berlin the tfh D_6FpOYzezy-00041-00012695-00012955 was given responsibility for setting up D_6FpOYzezy-00042-00012956-00013154 the administration and hiring new D_6FpOYzezy-00043-00013155-00013340 teachers although much of the staff 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Wilhelm in and HOF Strasse 75 a twelve D_6FpOYzezy-00059-00019112-00019354 thousand four hundred fifty nine Berlin D_6FpOYzezy-00060-00019355-00019639 abhrush one weed D_KPKbUN5Ro-00000-00000000-00000667 Oh ready then hey guys what's up it's me D_KPKbUN5Ro-00001-00000668-00000817 persona D_KPKbUN5Ro-00002-00000818-00001106 now you might recognize these these our D_KPKbUN5Ro-00003-00001107-00001424 masters touch alcohol-based markers from D_KPKbUN5Ro-00004-00001425-00001651 Hobby Lobby and you realize that a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00005-00001652-00001889 couple weeks ago maybe like a month ago D_KPKbUN5Ro-00006-00001889-00002237 I did a review and I compared master's D_KPKbUN5Ro-00007-00002238-00002498 touch markers from Hobby Lobby against D_KPKbUN5Ro-00008-00002499-00002690 Michaels artist loft markers from D_KPKbUN5Ro-00009-00002691-00003158 Michaels now masters touch is hobby D_KPKbUN5Ro-00010-00003159-00003434 lobby's brand new line of alcohol-based D_KPKbUN5Ro-00011-00003435-00003710 markers and a lot of people were asking D_KPKbUN5Ro-00012-00003711-00003878 me and asking me because they were D_KPKbUN5Ro-00013-00003879-00004106 watching me on Instagram and then I was D_KPKbUN5Ro-00014-00004107-00004345 reading my comments on the review of D_KPKbUN5Ro-00015-00004346-00004619 versing both of them together as you can D_KPKbUN5Ro-00016-00004620-00004802 see they have a chisel tip and brush tip D_KPKbUN5Ro-00017-00004803-00005095 just note that so I was getting all D_KPKbUN5Ro-00018-00005096-00005297 these questions during murmee and just D_KPKbUN5Ro-00019-00005298-00005426 reading the comments back to my original D_KPKbUN5Ro-00020-00005427-00005792 original thoughts um in the comments on D_KPKbUN5Ro-00021-00005793-00006143 that the verses markers the master's D_KPKbUN5Ro-00022-00006144-00006308 touch markers versus artists loft D_KPKbUN5Ro-00023-00006309-00006527 markers I saw a lot of comments about D_KPKbUN5Ro-00024-00006528-00006866 how the Michaels artists off markers 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markers and I had no idea at D_KPKbUN5Ro-00039-00010524-00010556 the time D_KPKbUN5Ro-00040-00010557-00010981 so it happens to be murmee right now and D_KPKbUN5Ro-00041-00010982-00011183 during murmee I wanted to challenge D_KPKbUN5Ro-00042-00011184-00011478 myself to try to use master touch D_KPKbUN5Ro-00043-00011479-00011777 markers from Hobby Lobby this entire D_KPKbUN5Ro-00044-00011778-00012064 murmee season now I didn't really get to D_KPKbUN5Ro-00045-00012065-00012419 draw as much because my life was chaotic D_KPKbUN5Ro-00046-00012420-00012815 this past May month so I tried to keep D_KPKbUN5Ro-00047-00012816-00013049 it as simple as possible at first I D_KPKbUN5Ro-00048-00013050-00013238 started with the markers that you saw D_KPKbUN5Ro-00049-00013238-00013478 that original purple set the purple pink D_KPKbUN5Ro-00050-00013479-00013744 set that I got and that I showed you in D_KPKbUN5Ro-00051-00013745-00014003 that video I started with that and I was D_KPKbUN5Ro-00052-00014004-00014197 happy so then I went back to Hobby Lobby D_KPKbUN5Ro-00053-00014198-00014594 and I saw that they had blenders with D_KPKbUN5Ro-00054-00014594-00014938 the Masters touch marker so I bought a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00055-00014940-00015221 set of two blenders after I bought the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00056-00015222-00015505 two blunderers I then noticed more D_KPKbUN5Ro-00057-00015506-00015797 colors so the thing about what's really D_KPKbUN5Ro-00058-00015797-00016040 nice about these markers is that they're D_KPKbUN5Ro-00059-00016041-00016262 very inexpensive you're kind of D_KPKbUN5Ro-00060-00016263-00016486 wondering why last time I checked their D_KPKbUN5Ro-00061-00016487-00016937 $29.99 well I know the whole system with D_KPKbUN5Ro-00062-00016938-00017197 Hobby Lobby that master's touch goes on D_KPKbUN5Ro-00063-00017198-00017588 sale every other week so it it's like a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00064-00017589-00017875 pattern that one week master's touch D_KPKbUN5Ro-00065-00017876-00018053 will not be on sale that is hobby D_KPKbUN5Ro-00066-00018054-00018287 lobby's brand and then the other week it D_KPKbUN5Ro-00067-00018288-00018518 will be on sale it will not be on sale D_KPKbUN5Ro-00068-00018519-00018740 it will be on sale it just jumps every D_KPKbUN5Ro-00069-00018741-00019169 other week so you have to go in when D_KPKbUN5Ro-00070-00019170-00019508 master's touches 50% off in order to get D_KPKbUN5Ro-00071-00019509-00019831 these markers for $10 apiece now the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00072-00019832-00020134 thing is about these if they are really D_KPKbUN5Ro-00073-00020135-00020465 great quality and I have been using the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00074-00020466-00020650 same markers over and over and over this D_KPKbUN5Ro-00075-00020651-00020794 entire month and if you follow me on D_KPKbUN5Ro-00076-00020795-00020996 Instagram then you would notice I have D_KPKbUN5Ro-00077-00020997-00021266 not stopped using master's touch markers D_KPKbUN5Ro-00078-00021267-00021622 throughout the entire month of May yes I D_KPKbUN5Ro-00079-00021623-00021908 kept going and buying more and more and D_KPKbUN5Ro-00080-00021909-00022069 as you can see I grew up a huge D_KPKbUN5Ro-00081-00022070-00022312 collection because I was moving from D_KPKbUN5Ro-00082-00022313-00022625 state to state with my husband because D_KPKbUN5Ro-00083-00022626-00022886 I'm married now okay so I moved from D_KPKbUN5Ro-00084-00022887-00023225 North Carolina to Indiana and I just D_KPKbUN5Ro-00085-00023226-00023422 packed up all my art supplies and my D_KPKbUN5Ro-00086-00023423-00023647 Copic markers and i sticked with the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00087-00023648-00023956 master's touch and i just i really liked D_KPKbUN5Ro-00088-00023957-00024122 them and people were asking me on D_KPKbUN5Ro-00089-00024123-00024278 instagram do you like them do you like D_KPKbUN5Ro-00090-00024279-00024569 them yes I really like them these are my D_KPKbUN5Ro-00091-00024570-00024914 go-to markers I even took my oh-hoo-hoo D_KPKbUN5Ro-00092-00024915-00025061 markers and I gave them to my D_KPKbUN5Ro-00093-00025062-00025336 sister-in-law because I wanted to have D_KPKbUN5Ro-00094-00025337-00025658 the space for the master's touch markers D_KPKbUN5Ro-00095-00025660-00025950 so yes the big question you're wondering D_KPKbUN5Ro-00096-00025951-00026058 Priscilla D_KPKbUN5Ro-00097-00026058-00026187 do you like these markers would you D_KPKbUN5Ro-00098-00026188-00026397 recommend them as a beginning artist D_KPKbUN5Ro-00099-00026398-00026633 absolutely you have no idea I even saw a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00100-00026635-00026916 kid standing in the Hobby Lobby aisle D_KPKbUN5Ro-00101-00026917-00027162 staring at the markers after he saw me D_KPKbUN5Ro-00102-00027163-00027354 pick up a package and I kind of like D_KPKbUN5Ro-00103-00027355-00027570 walked back and I went dude these are D_KPKbUN5Ro-00104-00027570-00027672 the best markers ever D_KPKbUN5Ro-00105-00027673-00028052 now there is one downfall to the Masters D_KPKbUN5Ro-00106-00028054-00028302 Touch markers and it might just be a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00107-00028302-00028664 glitch with them because it could be my D_KPKbUN5Ro-00108-00028666-00028836 a little sketchbook that you see me D_KPKbUN5Ro-00109-00028837-00029022 drawing in right now it could be a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00110-00029023-00029333 glitch with that but right now it seems D_KPKbUN5Ro-00111-00029335-00029705 that the yellows and the oranges are D_KPKbUN5Ro-00112-00029706-00030006 bleeding on two other pages for example D_KPKbUN5Ro-00113-00030007-00030393 I tried I kind of wanted to draw on the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00114-00030394-00030614 next page so you know you look at the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00115-00030616-00030750 spread and you've got the left side D_KPKbUN5Ro-00116-00030751-00030879 that's open in the right side that's D_KPKbUN5Ro-00117-00030880-00031170 open but I carried my yellow sketchbook D_KPKbUN5Ro-00118-00031170-00031350 with me everywhere knife and in some D_KPKbUN5Ro-00119-00031351-00031560 really heated places where it's been D_KPKbUN5Ro-00120-00031561-00031836 outside and the heat and it seems that D_KPKbUN5Ro-00121-00031837-00032148 the yellows are bleeding on to the next D_KPKbUN5Ro-00122-00032149-00032355 page or they'll bleed through D_KPKbUN5Ro-00123-00032356-00032610 on to the next couple pages so one of my D_KPKbUN5Ro-00124-00032611-00032829 drawings was actually covered in yellow D_KPKbUN5Ro-00125-00032830-00033135 ink and it's from the alcohol I have not D_KPKbUN5Ro-00126-00033136-00033417 noticed this with any other color except D_KPKbUN5Ro-00127-00033418-00033734 yellow and that might just be a D_KPKbUN5Ro-00128-00033735-00034074 first-round glitch on you know because D_KPKbUN5Ro-00129-00034075-00034263 this is these are really new these were D_KPKbUN5Ro-00130-00034264-00034668 released I think two months ago so these D_KPKbUN5Ro-00131-00034669-00034875 are a new kind of thing that Hobby Lobby D_KPKbUN5Ro-00132-00034876-00035142 has released and that is the only D_KPKbUN5Ro-00133-00035143-00035340 downfall I see so far it has been D_KPKbUN5Ro-00134-00035341-00035577 compatible with everything else as you D_KPKbUN5Ro-00135-00035578-00035757 can see at the beginning of the video I D_KPKbUN5Ro-00136-00035758-00036066 lined with my Copic liners and I've even D_KPKbUN5Ro-00137-00036067-00036378 lined with micron liners and they all D_KPKbUN5Ro-00138-00036379-00036591 get along great with the Masters touch D_KPKbUN5Ro-00139-00036592-00036783 they do not bleed they don't try to D_KPKbUN5Ro-00140-00036784-00037257 bleed or anything it's it's great they D_KPKbUN5Ro-00141-00037258-00037485 don't they don't really bleed through D_KPKbUN5Ro-00142-00037486-00037749 onto the next page now this is an ill oh D_KPKbUN5Ro-00143-00037750-00038007 so this is really heavy paper it could D_KPKbUN5Ro-00144-00038008-00038239 just be that the ink D_KPKbUN5Ro-00145-00038240-00038533 and acid in the paper yes there's acid D_KPKbUN5Ro-00146-00038534-00038796 and paper it could just be that it's not D_KPKbUN5Ro-00147-00038797-00039090 mingling well this I've never had this D_KPKbUN5Ro-00148-00039091-00039355 problem with other brands before not the D_KPKbUN5Ro-00149-00039356-00039690 oh-hoo-hoo markers and not the Copic D_KPKbUN5Ro-00150-00039691-00039880 markers I've never had the problem of D_KPKbUN5Ro-00151-00039881-00040132 yellows bleeding on to the next pages D_KPKbUN5Ro-00152-00040133-00040390 and that was just that was the downfall D_KPKbUN5Ro-00153-00040391-00040681 and I would stay tuned because I'm gonna D_KPKbUN5Ro-00154-00040682-00040864 do a sketch book tour pretty soon D_KPKbUN5Ro-00155-00040865-00041068 because this is the first mermaid I have D_KPKbUN5Ro-00156-00041069-00041449 ever completed but I was just crazy if I D_KPKbUN5Ro-00157-00041450-00041635 didn't get to draw and I was addicted to D_KPKbUN5Ro-00158-00041636-00041935 these masters touch markers and I just D_KPKbUN5Ro-00159-00041936-00042096 had to do it Knowles isn't sponsored D_KPKbUN5Ro-00160-00042097-00042362 Hobby Lobby has no idea who I am D_KPKbUN5Ro-00161-00042363-00042679 so yes I thought I would go ahead and D_KPKbUN5Ro-00162-00042680-00042840 share this with you guys because these D_KPKbUN5Ro-00163-00042841-00043125 are great inexpensive markers they're D_KPKbUN5Ro-00164-00043126-00043375 fantastic they have not frayed that is D_KPKbUN5Ro-00165-00043376-00043555 mainly the reason why I wanted to D_KPKbUN5Ro-00166-00043556-00043708 continue the whole month of May with D_KPKbUN5Ro-00167-00043709-00043971 mermaid is to prove that they don't fray D_KPKbUN5Ro-00168-00043972-00044224 they do not fray at all they are great D_KPKbUN5Ro-00169-00044225-00044540 great markers and I would invest in some D_KPKbUN5Ro-00170-00044541-00044818 immediately they seem to work on every D_KPKbUN5Ro-00171-00044819-00045001 type of sketchbook paper I think I even D_KPKbUN5Ro-00172-00045002-00045235 tried it on basic sketchbook paper just D_KPKbUN5Ro-00173-00045236-00045415 trying out my colors and making swatches D_KPKbUN5Ro-00174-00045416-00045670 but yes guys if you have master's touch D_KPKbUN5Ro-00175-00045671-00045814 leave in the comments down below how D_KPKbUN5Ro-00176-00045815-00045970 much you like them and if you're going D_KPKbUN5Ro-00177-00045971-00046201 to get them I would love to know yes D_KPKbUN5Ro-00178-00046202-00046420 guys have a most wonderful day and I'll D_KPKbUN5Ro-00179-00046421-00046489 see y'all later D_KPKbUN5Ro-00180-00046490-00046770 happy end of murmee it's the last day D_KPKbUN5Ro-00181-00046771-00047071 bye D_S_I5WcnG8-00000-00000992-00001319 so hello and jbm everyone welcome to the D_S_I5WcnG8-00001-00001320-00001519 second session of our series anticast D_S_I5WcnG8-00002-00001520-00001767 histories and solidarities my name is dr D_S_I5WcnG8-00003-00001768-00001975 rupali bansode i'm a dalek feminist D_S_I5WcnG8-00004-00001976-00002199 scholar and a social anthropologist i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-00005-00002200-00002447 coordinating this series with dr swati D_S_I5WcnG8-00006-00002448-00002767 kame who's also the feminist scholar D_S_I5WcnG8-00007-00002768-00003055 and intersectional um and she believes D_S_I5WcnG8-00008-00003056-00003238 in intersectional uh feminism and D_S_I5WcnG8-00009-00003239-00003463 intersectional politics the series is D_S_I5WcnG8-00010-00003464-00003711 funded by uh roshan alexander stiftung D_S_I5WcnG8-00011-00003711-00003886 foundation based in germany all the D_S_I5WcnG8-00012-00003887-00004103 speakers moderators and coordinators of D_S_I5WcnG8-00013-00004104-00004351 the series uh receive an honorarium and D_S_I5WcnG8-00014-00004352-00004511 presenting their work and in D_S_I5WcnG8-00015-00004512-00004695 collaborating in the series and we are D_S_I5WcnG8-00016-00004696-00004935 thankful uh to rls for collaborating D_S_I5WcnG8-00017-00004936-00005199 with us uh in this program D_S_I5WcnG8-00018-00005200-00005415 um this series is part of the yearly D_S_I5WcnG8-00019-00005416-00005679 program that south asian scholars and D_S_I5WcnG8-00020-00005680-00005902 activists solidarity uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00021-00005903-00006054 a group of young researchers and D_S_I5WcnG8-00022-00006055-00006286 scholars based in germa in europe have D_S_I5WcnG8-00023-00006287-00006614 planned since 2017. uh dr swati kamere D_S_I5WcnG8-00024-00006615-00006791 has been an active member of sas since D_S_I5WcnG8-00025-00006792-00007087 2017 and this year this lecture series D_S_I5WcnG8-00026-00007088-00007303 has come out of a collaboration between D_S_I5WcnG8-00027-00007304-00007663 success and um dbav women trans uh and D_S_I5WcnG8-00028-00007664-00007887 non-binary people's collective which is D_S_I5WcnG8-00029-00007888-00008078 an autonomous group of three generations D_S_I5WcnG8-00030-00008079-00008359 of dalit bahujan adibasi and we met the D_S_I5WcnG8-00031-00008360-00008639 entrance and non-binary activists this D_S_I5WcnG8-00032-00008640-00008814 collective stands for horizontal and D_S_I5WcnG8-00033-00008815-00009055 inclusive collaborations both success D_S_I5WcnG8-00034-00009056-00009391 and dbab uh people's collective consider D_S_I5WcnG8-00035-00009392-00009527 intersectional feminism and D_S_I5WcnG8-00036-00009528-00009742 non-hierarchical autonomy as the core D_S_I5WcnG8-00037-00009743-00009883 ideologies of their D_S_I5WcnG8-00038-00009884-00010110 collectives i became part of both sarsas D_S_I5WcnG8-00039-00010111-00010342 and dbav people's collective in october D_S_I5WcnG8-00040-00010343-00010471 2022 D_S_I5WcnG8-00041-00010472-00010783 in october 2020 when dr kamer initiated D_S_I5WcnG8-00042-00010784-00010919 the latter group post the heartless D_S_I5WcnG8-00043-00010920-00011127 kangaroo case um D_S_I5WcnG8-00044-00011128-00011414 that that happened in september 20 20 D_S_I5WcnG8-00045-00011415-00011710 20. uh success has been organizing D_S_I5WcnG8-00046-00011711-00011951 programs for granting anti-anti-thought D_S_I5WcnG8-00047-00011952-00012255 and politics since 2017. this year's D_S_I5WcnG8-00048-00012256-00012438 collaboration with dbab people's D_S_I5WcnG8-00049-00012439-00012614 collective brought us closer towards D_S_I5WcnG8-00050-00012615-00012799 brainstorming on the multiple D_S_I5WcnG8-00051-00012800-00013030 subordinated groups in india while D_S_I5WcnG8-00052-00013031-00013279 thinking about a much talked identity D_S_I5WcnG8-00053-00013280-00013463 like dalit we follow D_S_I5WcnG8-00054-00013463-00013694 uh we follow gopal gurus and sramila D_S_I5WcnG8-00055-00013695-00013927 regis uh and gold and other scholars D_S_I5WcnG8-00056-00013928-00014271 like game girl on with D_S_I5WcnG8-00057-00014272-00014447 especially the dalit panthers idea of D_S_I5WcnG8-00058-00014447-00014719 dalit wherein gopal guru's words for the D_S_I5WcnG8-00059-00014719-00014958 dalek panther the category of dalit is a D_S_I5WcnG8-00060-00014959-00015191 revolutionary one for its hermeneutic D_S_I5WcnG8-00061-00015191-00015391 ability to recover the revolutionary D_S_I5WcnG8-00062-00015391-00015638 meaning of the historically historical D_S_I5WcnG8-00063-00015640-00015847 part past of the galic people D_S_I5WcnG8-00064-00015847-00016063 as the panthers and the and babura D_S_I5WcnG8-00065-00016063-00016303 bhagul define it this category has an D_S_I5WcnG8-00066-00016304-00016558 ontological ability to define itself D_S_I5WcnG8-00067-00016559-00016839 with all the lower caste tribal people D_S_I5WcnG8-00068-00016840-00017039 toiling classes and women thus the use D_S_I5WcnG8-00069-00017040-00017255 of the category dalit by the panther D_S_I5WcnG8-00070-00017256-00017519 only shows how radically it is distinct D_S_I5WcnG8-00071-00017520-00017686 from the understanding offered by its D_S_I5WcnG8-00072-00017687-00017894 opponent this excerpt is from the D_S_I5WcnG8-00073-00017895-00018094 chapter understanding the category of D_S_I5WcnG8-00074-00018095-00018279 dalits from the book or to free D_S_I5WcnG8-00075-00018280-00018439 intelligent politics D_S_I5WcnG8-00076-00018440-00018694 um written by uh gopal guru D_S_I5WcnG8-00077-00018695-00018903 edited by gopal guru actually uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00078-00018904-00019094 simultaneously we also consider other D_S_I5WcnG8-00079-00019095-00019319 categories other identities like bahujan D_S_I5WcnG8-00080-00019320-00019511 adivasi multivasi D_S_I5WcnG8-00081-00019512-00019750 and other marginalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00082-00019751-00020039 identities important and thus thought of D_S_I5WcnG8-00083-00020040-00020286 inviting scholars and activists working D_S_I5WcnG8-00084-00020287-00020558 in working uh and creating and doing D_S_I5WcnG8-00085-00020559-00020735 antica scholarship and politics D_S_I5WcnG8-00086-00020736-00020839 important D_S_I5WcnG8-00087-00020840-00021030 this series is a conscious yet humble D_S_I5WcnG8-00088-00021031-00021278 attempt to engage in challenging yet D_S_I5WcnG8-00089-00021279-00021478 important questions like how do D_S_I5WcnG8-00090-00021479-00021647 historically oppressed diverse D_S_I5WcnG8-00091-00021648-00021903 communities with emancipatory movements D_S_I5WcnG8-00092-00021904-00022175 histories investigate imagine and build D_S_I5WcnG8-00093-00022176-00022478 anti-car solidarities why is D_S_I5WcnG8-00094-00022479-00022630 why is this engagement with this D_S_I5WcnG8-00095-00022631-00022878 histories and solidarity is critical how D_S_I5WcnG8-00096-00022879-00023111 caster dominates and shapes the lived D_S_I5WcnG8-00097-00023112-00023303 realities of the lids and ma D_S_I5WcnG8-00098-00023304-00023486 and many other marginalized groups in D_S_I5WcnG8-00099-00023487-00023567 india D_S_I5WcnG8-00100-00023568-00023783 how does how does this how do the state D_S_I5WcnG8-00101-00023784-00024063 and its system as it exists fails and D_S_I5WcnG8-00102-00024064-00024286 yet uh remains the only source for the D_S_I5WcnG8-00103-00024287-00024486 operas cast and minorities to seek D_S_I5WcnG8-00104-00024487-00024863 justice we are very happy to have um D_S_I5WcnG8-00105-00024864-00025007 to have um D_S_I5WcnG8-00106-00025008-00025222 our our today's speaker and moderator D_S_I5WcnG8-00107-00025223-00025567 dishavadhikar D_S_I5WcnG8-00108-00025568-00025758 on board both are lawyers and doing some D_S_I5WcnG8-00109-00025760-00025943 significant work on the intersection of D_S_I5WcnG8-00110-00025944-00026190 caste law on marginalization i would D_S_I5WcnG8-00111-00026191-00026431 like to start by introducing um our D_S_I5WcnG8-00112-00026432-00026590 moderator for our today's session and D_S_I5WcnG8-00113-00026591-00026967 then hand over the hand over the um D_S_I5WcnG8-00114-00026968-00027270 today's session to her so uh advocates D_S_I5WcnG8-00115-00027272-00027527 uh advocate nikita sunowne has worked as D_S_I5WcnG8-00116-00027527-00027783 a legal researcher and as an advocate D_S_I5WcnG8-00117-00027783-00027990 for five years she is the co-founder of D_S_I5WcnG8-00118-00027991-00028167 the criminal justice and politic and D_S_I5WcnG8-00119-00028168-00028287 police D_S_I5WcnG8-00120-00028288-00028535 accountability project a bhopal-based D_S_I5WcnG8-00121-00028536-00028774 litigation and research intervention D_S_I5WcnG8-00122-00028775-00028999 focused on building accountability D_S_I5WcnG8-00123-00029000-00029199 against criminalization of marginalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00124-00029200-00029399 communities by the police and the D_S_I5WcnG8-00125-00029400-00029614 criminal justice system her writings D_S_I5WcnG8-00126-00029616-00029887 have been uh have been intersect D_S_I5WcnG8-00127-00029888-00029999 have been on the intersection of D_S_I5WcnG8-00128-00030000-00030262 policing caste and digitization of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00129-00030263-00030487 criminal justice in india nikita has D_S_I5WcnG8-00130-00030488-00030662 previously worked on issues of local D_S_I5WcnG8-00131-00030663-00030902 governance forest rights and gender in D_S_I5WcnG8-00132-00030903-00031207 the adivasi region of dang in gujarat D_S_I5WcnG8-00133-00031208-00031399 she graduated with a D_S_I5WcnG8-00134-00031400-00031639 degree in political science uh with the D_S_I5WcnG8-00135-00031639-00031774 bachelor's degree in which with a D_S_I5WcnG8-00136-00031775-00031927 bachelor's degree in political science D_S_I5WcnG8-00137-00031927-00032190 from saint xavier's college mumbai and D_S_I5WcnG8-00138-00032191-00032367 an llb degree from government law D_S_I5WcnG8-00139-00032368-00032655 college mumbai nikita holds an ll.m in D_S_I5WcnG8-00140-00032656-00032846 law and development degree from azim D_S_I5WcnG8-00141-00032847-00033143 premji university bangalore her writings D_S_I5WcnG8-00142-00033144-00033399 have been published by a.i now institute D_S_I5WcnG8-00143-00033400-00033743 at nyu indian express the hindu karma D_S_I5WcnG8-00144-00033744-00034079 and men among others D_S_I5WcnG8-00145-00034080-00034215 yeah and D_S_I5WcnG8-00146-00034216-00034479 nikita please take the session ahead D_S_I5WcnG8-00147-00034480-00034911 thank you D_S_I5WcnG8-00148-00034912-00035111 thank you so much D_S_I5WcnG8-00149-00035112-00035335 everyone for joining in jayveen jay D_S_I5WcnG8-00150-00035336-00035502 savitrihal D_S_I5WcnG8-00151-00035503-00035718 uh thank you so much to D_S_I5WcnG8-00152-00035719-00036030 swathi and rupali for curating this D_S_I5WcnG8-00153-00036031-00036295 wonderful lecture series uh of course a D_S_I5WcnG8-00154-00036296-00036671 big thanks to the rosa luxembourg D_S_I5WcnG8-00155-00036672-00036983 institute for supporting this series um D_S_I5WcnG8-00156-00036984-00037287 i'm very excited to be moderating D_S_I5WcnG8-00157-00037288-00037511 uh today's conversation D_S_I5WcnG8-00158-00037512-00037727 uh both because of the subject matter D_S_I5WcnG8-00159-00037728-00037927 and the person who's going to be sharing D_S_I5WcnG8-00160-00037928-00038143 her thoughts on the subject matter D_S_I5WcnG8-00161-00038144-00038287 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00162-00038288-00038430 so D_S_I5WcnG8-00163-00038431-00038623 i think today's question D_S_I5WcnG8-00164-00038624-00038927 uh and the subject of today's question D_S_I5WcnG8-00165-00038928-00039183 is particularly relevant because D_S_I5WcnG8-00166-00039184-00039439 uh the phrase criminalization of descent D_S_I5WcnG8-00167-00039440-00039767 has gained coinage uh particularly in D_S_I5WcnG8-00168-00039768-00040055 post-2014 in india resulting D_S_I5WcnG8-00169-00040056-00040279 in from the incarceration of certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00170-00040280-00040511 lawyers activist scholars D_S_I5WcnG8-00171-00040512-00040799 whose incarceration has been deemed to D_S_I5WcnG8-00172-00040800-00040967 be political D_S_I5WcnG8-00173-00040968-00041190 and we've seen this incarceration D_S_I5WcnG8-00174-00041191-00041374 largely happen under D_S_I5WcnG8-00175-00041375-00041543 draconian laws D_S_I5WcnG8-00176-00041544-00041743 like the unlawful activities prevention D_S_I5WcnG8-00177-00041744-00041887 act D_S_I5WcnG8-00178-00041888-00042062 it is therefore against this background D_S_I5WcnG8-00179-00042063-00042295 that it becomes necessary to deconstruct D_S_I5WcnG8-00180-00042296-00042543 and contextualize the category D_S_I5WcnG8-00181-00042544-00042871 of descent and dissenters um i'm very D_S_I5WcnG8-00182-00042872-00043127 excited to open the floor D_S_I5WcnG8-00183-00043128-00043479 uh to disha valdiker for her to share D_S_I5WcnG8-00184-00043480-00043727 and help us make meaning of these ideas D_S_I5WcnG8-00185-00043728-00043943 as part of our comments D_S_I5WcnG8-00186-00043944-00044167 on the topic of today's discussion aptly D_S_I5WcnG8-00187-00044168-00044423 titled the cast of descent D_S_I5WcnG8-00188-00044424-00044599 before that i would like to take the D_S_I5WcnG8-00189-00044600-00044774 opportunity D_S_I5WcnG8-00190-00044775-00045118 to introduce disha disha is an D_S_I5WcnG8-00191-00045119-00045295 independent advocate practicing at the D_S_I5WcnG8-00192-00045296-00045511 supreme court of india and a junk D_S_I5WcnG8-00193-00045512-00045718 faculty at the jindal global law school D_S_I5WcnG8-00194-00045719-00045911 sony pad she has D_S_I5WcnG8-00195-00045912-00046118 previously worked as an associate at the D_S_I5WcnG8-00196-00046119-00046311 chambers of senior advocate indira D_S_I5WcnG8-00197-00046312-00046551 jaisin on constitutional matters D_S_I5WcnG8-00198-00046552-00046774 including the shabhi mala and janelle D_S_I5WcnG8-00199-00046775-00046951 singh which is was the reservation and D_S_I5WcnG8-00200-00046952-00047230 promotions case disha has also headed a D_S_I5WcnG8-00201-00047231-00047511 legal resource center in india set up D_S_I5WcnG8-00202-00047512-00047727 as a london school of economics project D_S_I5WcnG8-00203-00047728-00047902 in addition she has worked as a D_S_I5WcnG8-00204-00047903-00048062 consultant advocate for the death D_S_I5WcnG8-00205-00048063-00048230 penalty project at the national law D_S_I5WcnG8-00206-00048231-00048455 university in delhi she is the D_S_I5WcnG8-00207-00048456-00048599 co-founder and D_S_I5WcnG8-00208-00048600-00048855 president of seed and organization D_S_I5WcnG8-00209-00048856-00049111 working towards a diverse and inclusive D_S_I5WcnG8-00210-00049112-00049335 legal profession in the judiciary D_S_I5WcnG8-00211-00049336-00049567 without any further ado and with much D_S_I5WcnG8-00212-00049568-00049774 excitement i open the floor to disha to D_S_I5WcnG8-00213-00049775-00050030 share her thought D_S_I5WcnG8-00214-00050031-00050407 thanks thanks nikita for that lovely D_S_I5WcnG8-00215-00050408-00050551 you know introduction and setting the D_S_I5WcnG8-00216-00050552-00050918 context of uh the topic today uh this D_S_I5WcnG8-00217-00050919-00051223 topic is uh particularly close to my D_S_I5WcnG8-00218-00051224-00051311 heart D_S_I5WcnG8-00219-00051312-00051679 and i've been pondering and thinking D_S_I5WcnG8-00220-00051679-00051958 um and arguing with myself and people D_S_I5WcnG8-00221-00051959-00052119 around me about this topic especially D_S_I5WcnG8-00222-00052120-00052279 for the last two years D_S_I5WcnG8-00223-00052279-00052526 uh and nikita here uh you know has been D_S_I5WcnG8-00224-00052527-00052775 a part of those conversations uh that D_S_I5WcnG8-00225-00052776-00053103 we've had um so um D_S_I5WcnG8-00226-00053104-00053366 you know uh i'll D_S_I5WcnG8-00227-00053367-00053654 kind of set the context in which uh i D_S_I5WcnG8-00228-00053655-00053975 thought of uh you know um i chose this D_S_I5WcnG8-00229-00053976-00054071 topic D_S_I5WcnG8-00230-00054072-00054175 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00231-00054176-00054471 in the last like nikita said you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00232-00054472-00054766 uh the current uh political dispensation D_S_I5WcnG8-00233-00054767-00054911 and violence of D_S_I5WcnG8-00234-00054912-00055111 uh the violent nature of the current D_S_I5WcnG8-00235-00055112-00055359 political dispensation is uh what has D_S_I5WcnG8-00236-00055360-00055615 been in news for a long time D_S_I5WcnG8-00237-00055616-00055887 um and we have seen with the arrests of D_S_I5WcnG8-00238-00055888-00056079 intellectuals lawyers D_S_I5WcnG8-00239-00056079-00056191 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00240-00056191-00056447 and uh you know very very many D_S_I5WcnG8-00241-00056448-00056703 well-known personalities uh who have D_S_I5WcnG8-00242-00056704-00056894 been incarcerated and who have been D_S_I5WcnG8-00243-00056895-00057238 languishing in jails uh for and they D_S_I5WcnG8-00244-00057239-00057503 have been termed as dissenters right D_S_I5WcnG8-00245-00057504-00057750 um and um D_S_I5WcnG8-00246-00057751-00057871 even as they have been termed as D_S_I5WcnG8-00247-00057872-00057999 dissenters D_S_I5WcnG8-00248-00058000-00058366 um i have always thought of uh you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00249-00058367-00058550 and and what would always D_S_I5WcnG8-00250-00058551-00058742 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00251-00058744-00058950 sort of um D_S_I5WcnG8-00252-00058951-00059238 troubled me was that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00253-00059239-00059430 these individuals whether it was the D_S_I5WcnG8-00254-00059432-00059599 bhima koregaon case D_S_I5WcnG8-00255-00059600-00059742 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00256-00059744-00059999 or uh you know the the incarceration of D_S_I5WcnG8-00257-00060000-00060191 many intellectuals and uh after in the D_S_I5WcnG8-00258-00060191-00060487 aftermath of bhima koregaon D_S_I5WcnG8-00259-00060488-00060742 or say um you know the attack and the D_S_I5WcnG8-00260-00060744-00060926 arrests of uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00261-00060927-00061247 um individuals after the ntca and rc D_S_I5WcnG8-00262-00061248-00061382 protests in D_S_I5WcnG8-00263-00061383-00061519 india D_S_I5WcnG8-00264-00061520-00061847 or the incarceration of individuals uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00265-00061848-00062119 intellectuals academics lawyers D_S_I5WcnG8-00266-00062120-00062454 uh journalists also uh say after delhi D_S_I5WcnG8-00267-00062455-00062687 riots in the aftermath of delhi riots D_S_I5WcnG8-00268-00062688-00062799 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00269-00062800-00063103 um or say the recent D_S_I5WcnG8-00270-00063104-00063350 attack of pegasus uh you know where many D_S_I5WcnG8-00271-00063351-00063679 human rights defenders um their their uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00272-00063679-00063935 devices were hacked uh by a military D_S_I5WcnG8-00273-00063936-00064287 grade software right um and we have and D_S_I5WcnG8-00274-00064288-00064438 and and these people and their D_S_I5WcnG8-00275-00064439-00064599 incarceration and their stories and D_S_I5WcnG8-00276-00064600-00064791 their arrests D_S_I5WcnG8-00277-00064791-00064991 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00278-00064991-00065166 the plight of D_S_I5WcnG8-00279-00065167-00065247 these D_S_I5WcnG8-00280-00065248-00065423 incarcerated D_S_I5WcnG8-00281-00065424-00065679 individuals is has been in news for a D_S_I5WcnG8-00282-00065680-00065871 really long time D_S_I5WcnG8-00283-00065872-00066103 but i have always wondered what happens D_S_I5WcnG8-00284-00066104-00066182 to D_S_I5WcnG8-00285-00066183-00066271 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00286-00066272-00066550 the communities uh that D_S_I5WcnG8-00287-00066551-00066759 uh you know and i i will call them D_S_I5WcnG8-00288-00066760-00066943 dissenting communities and i'll tell you D_S_I5WcnG8-00289-00066944-00067223 uh why dissenting communities what D_S_I5WcnG8-00290-00067224-00067367 happens to these communities the D_S_I5WcnG8-00291-00067368-00067575 marginalized communities the scs the D_S_I5WcnG8-00292-00067576-00067847 st's the obc's uh the vimukhta D_S_I5WcnG8-00293-00067848-00068094 communities the nomadic communities what D_S_I5WcnG8-00294-00068095-00068382 happens to these communities that have D_S_I5WcnG8-00295-00068383-00068615 um traditionally D_S_I5WcnG8-00296-00068616-00068759 historically D_S_I5WcnG8-00297-00068760-00069015 been dissenting communities and why have D_S_I5WcnG8-00298-00069016-00069350 they been uh completely de-politicized D_S_I5WcnG8-00299-00069351-00069591 so if you see um D_S_I5WcnG8-00300-00069592-00069806 the the discourse around civil liberties D_S_I5WcnG8-00301-00069807-00069935 in india is D_S_I5WcnG8-00302-00069936-00070263 uh highly focused on this category of D_S_I5WcnG8-00303-00070264-00070591 political prisoners D_S_I5WcnG8-00304-00070592-00070799 and political prisoners are seen as D_S_I5WcnG8-00305-00070800-00070894 these D_S_I5WcnG8-00306-00070895-00071271 uh intellectually inspired individuals D_S_I5WcnG8-00307-00071272-00071559 associated with martyrdom associated D_S_I5WcnG8-00308-00071560-00071775 with a sense of uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00309-00071776-00071919 you know saving D_S_I5WcnG8-00310-00071920-00072303 um uh uh the the society D_S_I5WcnG8-00311-00072304-00072382 from D_S_I5WcnG8-00312-00072383-00072647 uh an oppressive state right D_S_I5WcnG8-00313-00072648-00073015 and that brings me to the fact that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00314-00073016-00073350 the ncrb data time and again is telling D_S_I5WcnG8-00315-00073351-00073791 us that sc's st's obcs account for 66 D_S_I5WcnG8-00316-00073792-00074023 percent of under trial uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00317-00074024-00074367 prison prisoner's population right um D_S_I5WcnG8-00318-00074368-00074615 you have the death penalty india uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00319-00074616-00074919 report which says that close to D_S_I5WcnG8-00320-00074920-00075294 um three-fourths of uh uh you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00321-00075295-00075543 persons who are sentenced to death come D_S_I5WcnG8-00322-00075544-00075855 from the scst obc communities right and D_S_I5WcnG8-00323-00075856-00075991 i'm talking about administrative D_S_I5WcnG8-00324-00075992-00076199 categories here and i will deconstruct D_S_I5WcnG8-00325-00076200-00076382 those administrative categories a little D_S_I5WcnG8-00326-00076383-00076535 later but i'm just D_S_I5WcnG8-00327-00076536-00076823 uh flagging this data uh you know for us D_S_I5WcnG8-00328-00076824-00076903 to D_S_I5WcnG8-00329-00076904-00077135 um think about so when you're talking D_S_I5WcnG8-00330-00077136-00077319 about incarceration there are these D_S_I5WcnG8-00331-00077320-00077455 communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00332-00077456-00077694 uh that have been incarcerated that are D_S_I5WcnG8-00333-00077695-00077935 languishing in jails uh you have these D_S_I5WcnG8-00334-00077936-00078215 communities that are disproportionately D_S_I5WcnG8-00335-00078216-00078655 um you know sentenced um uh um D_S_I5WcnG8-00336-00078656-00078911 as far as death penalty is concerned D_S_I5WcnG8-00337-00078912-00079191 you have the community so a recent uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00338-00079192-00079375 not a very recent but D_S_I5WcnG8-00339-00079376-00079750 um uh uh the data by uh ncsc in the D_S_I5WcnG8-00340-00079751-00079926 national commission of scheduled car D_S_I5WcnG8-00341-00079927-00080159 says that denotified communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00342-00080160-00080447 um and it actually refers to a community D_S_I5WcnG8-00343-00080448-00080671 called kuruvan community D_S_I5WcnG8-00344-00080672-00080887 from tamil nadu and it says that D_S_I5WcnG8-00345-00080888-00081062 this community and members of these D_S_I5WcnG8-00346-00081063-00081191 communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00347-00081192-00081623 face the risk of being uh booked under D_S_I5WcnG8-00348-00081624-00081935 various criminal cases at least you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00349-00081936-00082318 five at least five criminal cases uh uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00350-00082319-00082535 you know that's the risk that they face D_S_I5WcnG8-00351-00082536-00082791 uh in their lifetime right so the minute D_S_I5WcnG8-00352-00082792-00083006 you are born in a notified tribe in a D_S_I5WcnG8-00353-00083007-00083167 guru one community D_S_I5WcnG8-00354-00083168-00083271 you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00355-00083272-00083415 that there are there are going to be D_S_I5WcnG8-00356-00083416-00083687 five that that there is a risk of five D_S_I5WcnG8-00357-00083688-00083911 uh that you you being booked under five D_S_I5WcnG8-00358-00083912-00084143 criminal cases right uh and that is the D_S_I5WcnG8-00359-00084144-00084375 status um D_S_I5WcnG8-00360-00084376-00084550 of the manner in which the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00361-00084551-00084726 justice system has D_S_I5WcnG8-00362-00084727-00085015 targeted uh marginalized communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00363-00085016-00085159 whether it is the dalit community D_S_I5WcnG8-00364-00085160-00085487 adiwasi community bhimata community D_S_I5WcnG8-00365-00085488-00085694 nomadic uh communities and wandering D_S_I5WcnG8-00366-00085695-00086079 communities in this country um so uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00367-00086080-00086415 what i felt was this this um D_S_I5WcnG8-00368-00086416-00086518 sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-00369-00086519-00086743 centering of this category of political D_S_I5WcnG8-00370-00086744-00086975 prisoners as these dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-00371-00086976-00087215 individuals and mostly brahmin savannah D_S_I5WcnG8-00372-00087216-00087438 individuals right um D_S_I5WcnG8-00373-00087439-00087535 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00374-00087536-00087775 and the deliberate erasure or the D_S_I5WcnG8-00375-00087776-00088071 deliberate depoliticization of D_S_I5WcnG8-00376-00088072-00088287 communities uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00377-00088288-00088631 that have uh you know traditionally and D_S_I5WcnG8-00378-00088632-00088775 historically D_S_I5WcnG8-00379-00088776-00088894 dissented D_S_I5WcnG8-00380-00088895-00089087 right uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00381-00089088-00089275 that that kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-00382-00089276-00089599 depoliticization of communities that on D_S_I5WcnG8-00383-00089600-00089806 the on the one hand you see that the D_S_I5WcnG8-00384-00089807-00089982 data shows that they are D_S_I5WcnG8-00385-00089983-00090167 disproportionately criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00386-00090168-00090375 communities are disproportionately D_S_I5WcnG8-00387-00090376-00090591 criminalized but you see like a D_S_I5WcnG8-00388-00090592-00090791 deliberate erasure of these communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00389-00090792-00090999 from any discourse on civil liberties D_S_I5WcnG8-00390-00091000-00091311 from any discourse on dissent right D_S_I5WcnG8-00391-00091312-00091726 um so so this kind of um D_S_I5WcnG8-00392-00091727-00092135 sort of um uh you know the the the D_S_I5WcnG8-00393-00092136-00092223 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00394-00092224-00092359 disbalance D_S_I5WcnG8-00395-00092360-00092567 uh of the civil liberties discourse is D_S_I5WcnG8-00396-00092568-00092638 is D_S_I5WcnG8-00397-00092639-00092887 what really triggered me uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00398-00092888-00093135 at one point and i D_S_I5WcnG8-00399-00093136-00093335 uh thought of uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00400-00093336-00093526 you know deconstructing D_S_I5WcnG8-00401-00093527-00093847 uh this this whole notion of D_S_I5WcnG8-00402-00093848-00094118 dalit adiwas communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00403-00094119-00094206 are D_S_I5WcnG8-00404-00094207-00094487 not being political or or their deep D_S_I5WcnG8-00405-00094488-00094759 politicization uh we are we the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00406-00094760-00094967 justice system right and as nikita D_S_I5WcnG8-00407-00094968-00095174 pointed out you know this this this D_S_I5WcnG8-00408-00095175-00095335 whole discourse that D_S_I5WcnG8-00409-00095336-00095606 dissent is being criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00410-00095607-00095694 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00411-00095695-00095774 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00412-00095775-00095967 it is a regime based phenomena that it D_S_I5WcnG8-00413-00095968-00096118 is happening now D_S_I5WcnG8-00414-00096119-00096271 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00415-00096272-00096518 uh is does a lot of disservice because D_S_I5WcnG8-00416-00096519-00096718 the reality is that dissent has always D_S_I5WcnG8-00417-00096719-00096911 been criminalized and one will have to D_S_I5WcnG8-00418-00096912-00097223 trace it trace its roots not just D_S_I5WcnG8-00419-00097224-00097511 in the current political dispensation it D_S_I5WcnG8-00420-00097512-00097759 is not a regime based phenomena D_S_I5WcnG8-00421-00097760-00097999 one will have to trace its roots D_S_I5WcnG8-00422-00098000-00098094 in D_S_I5WcnG8-00423-00098095-00098382 the colonial and also the pre-colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-00424-00098383-00098743 times right um and especially in the D_S_I5WcnG8-00425-00098744-00099079 caste social order and the feminist D_S_I5WcnG8-00426-00099080-00099359 uh social political system right D_S_I5WcnG8-00427-00099360-00099711 uh you will see that so so my attempt D_S_I5WcnG8-00428-00099712-00099894 here is going to be to D_S_I5WcnG8-00429-00099895-00100038 understand D_S_I5WcnG8-00430-00100039-00100318 uh the descent D_S_I5WcnG8-00431-00100319-00100455 uh of D_S_I5WcnG8-00432-00100456-00100831 these communities uh and um D_S_I5WcnG8-00433-00100832-00101038 uh i i am going to take D_S_I5WcnG8-00434-00101039-00101199 uh dr babasa D_S_I5WcnG8-00435-00101200-00101462 dr babasha bambidkar's writings as as my D_S_I5WcnG8-00436-00101463-00101655 framework to understand D_S_I5WcnG8-00437-00101656-00101782 uh how D_S_I5WcnG8-00438-00101783-00101950 the communities that you now see are D_S_I5WcnG8-00439-00101951-00102167 criminalized and over criminalized or D_S_I5WcnG8-00440-00102168-00102430 disproportionately criminalized they at D_S_I5WcnG8-00441-00102431-00102575 one point have been dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-00442-00102576-00102847 communities and one will have to see it D_S_I5WcnG8-00443-00102848-00102927 through D_S_I5WcnG8-00444-00102928-00103247 uh you know especially manuswriti D_S_I5WcnG8-00445-00103248-00103534 right the text the penal code that D_S_I5WcnG8-00446-00103535-00103815 existed before any penal code before any D_S_I5WcnG8-00447-00103816-00104071 uh you know colonial indian penal code D_S_I5WcnG8-00448-00104072-00104182 existed D_S_I5WcnG8-00449-00104183-00104558 right uh and uh doctor baba said D_S_I5WcnG8-00450-00104559-00104694 in um D_S_I5WcnG8-00451-00104695-00104830 you know revolution and counter D_S_I5WcnG8-00452-00104831-00104983 revolution D_S_I5WcnG8-00453-00104983-00105143 in ancient india D_S_I5WcnG8-00454-00105144-00105334 really gives that framework of dissent D_S_I5WcnG8-00455-00105335-00105527 for us why these are dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-00456-00105528-00105719 communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00457-00105720-00105910 he talks about how D_S_I5WcnG8-00458-00105911-00106078 many sriti is D_S_I5WcnG8-00459-00106079-00106343 this document or this this this sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-00460-00106344-00106463 gospel D_S_I5WcnG8-00461-00106464-00106790 of brahminist subjugation of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00462-00106791-00106990 buddhists the egalitarian buddhist D_S_I5WcnG8-00463-00106991-00107207 tradition and anyone and everyone who D_S_I5WcnG8-00464-00107208-00107431 tried to embrace this egalitarian D_S_I5WcnG8-00465-00107432-00107654 buddhist tradition D_S_I5WcnG8-00466-00107655-00107927 can be seen as a dissenting community D_S_I5WcnG8-00467-00107928-00108102 right and you find evidence of this in D_S_I5WcnG8-00468-00108103-00108286 manufacturing D_S_I5WcnG8-00469-00108288-00108575 um so um D_S_I5WcnG8-00470-00108576-00108751 i'll just read out D_S_I5WcnG8-00471-00108752-00108839 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00472-00108840-00109031 some excerpts from manusmithi in fact D_S_I5WcnG8-00473-00109032-00109166 the manuscripti D_S_I5WcnG8-00474-00109167-00109447 uh as we all know is a text D_S_I5WcnG8-00475-00109448-00109775 uh that has imposed many injunctions on D_S_I5WcnG8-00476-00109776-00110047 sudra on the shudra community of women D_S_I5WcnG8-00477-00110048-00110231 and so on and so forth but the D_S_I5WcnG8-00478-00110232-00110527 manuscript also refers D_S_I5WcnG8-00479-00110528-00110751 specifically to D_S_I5WcnG8-00480-00110752-00110919 criminal communities and the word D_S_I5WcnG8-00481-00110920-00111086 criminal communities has been used in D_S_I5WcnG8-00482-00111088-00111319 the manuscript in fact robert and thief D_S_I5WcnG8-00483-00111320-00111543 communities this term also has been used D_S_I5WcnG8-00484-00111544-00111719 in the manuscript D_S_I5WcnG8-00485-00111720-00112031 and it refers to non-aryans or excluded D_S_I5WcnG8-00486-00112032-00112231 aryan communities here in you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00487-00112232-00112502 excluded aryans are the shudra community D_S_I5WcnG8-00488-00112503-00112719 these are the people who dwell outside D_S_I5WcnG8-00489-00112720-00113039 villages i'm reading from uh manufriti D_S_I5WcnG8-00490-00113040-00113183 these are the D_S_I5WcnG8-00491-00113183-00113343 communities that dwell outside the D_S_I5WcnG8-00492-00113344-00113654 villages on burial grounds mountains D_S_I5WcnG8-00493-00113655-00113910 in groups uh wearing garments of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00494-00113911-00114199 dead wandering from place to place and D_S_I5WcnG8-00495-00114200-00114375 they are referred in the manuscript they D_S_I5WcnG8-00496-00114376-00114695 are referred to as criminal communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00497-00114696-00114958 right um the manuscript is replete with D_S_I5WcnG8-00498-00114959-00115166 writings on the basketization of certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00499-00115167-00115439 communities that babasab has extensively D_S_I5WcnG8-00500-00115440-00115678 written about uh why D_S_I5WcnG8-00501-00115679-00115966 uh manuscripti um did that you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00502-00115967-00116190 whether it was the chandela D_S_I5WcnG8-00503-00116191-00116471 nishads and all these other communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00504-00116472-00116647 and you see that that D_S_I5WcnG8-00505-00116648-00116734 that D_S_I5WcnG8-00506-00116735-00116966 criminalization of these communities the D_S_I5WcnG8-00507-00116967-00117175 communities that i'm talking about the D_S_I5WcnG8-00508-00117176-00117439 excluded aryans the non-aryans D_S_I5WcnG8-00509-00117440-00117686 those who dwelled outside the village on D_S_I5WcnG8-00510-00117688-00117902 burial grounds if you look at all these D_S_I5WcnG8-00511-00117903-00118119 you know these these communities you can D_S_I5WcnG8-00512-00118120-00118358 see that it is referring to our varna D_S_I5WcnG8-00513-00118359-00118519 communities the communities who fell D_S_I5WcnG8-00514-00118520-00118807 outside the varna system who rejected or D_S_I5WcnG8-00515-00118808-00118966 did not believe in the chaturvarna D_S_I5WcnG8-00516-00118967-00119063 system D_S_I5WcnG8-00517-00119064-00119358 right now these are the communities that D_S_I5WcnG8-00518-00119359-00119502 can be D_S_I5WcnG8-00519-00119503-00119654 seen or D_S_I5WcnG8-00520-00119655-00119854 or um D_S_I5WcnG8-00521-00119855-00120063 one can associate them with the larger D_S_I5WcnG8-00522-00120064-00120278 egalitarian buddhist tradition D_S_I5WcnG8-00523-00120279-00120502 right uh and i call them dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-00524-00120503-00120871 communities because they dissented D_S_I5WcnG8-00525-00120872-00121158 uh the the brahmanic chaturvana system D_S_I5WcnG8-00526-00121159-00121302 and their criminalization their D_S_I5WcnG8-00527-00121303-00121471 subsequent stigmatization and their D_S_I5WcnG8-00528-00121472-00121686 criminalization and their bastardization D_S_I5WcnG8-00529-00121688-00121895 that you see in the manuscript is D_S_I5WcnG8-00530-00121896-00122119 actually a result of that dissent and D_S_I5WcnG8-00531-00122120-00122327 that's why i want to say that these are D_S_I5WcnG8-00532-00122328-00122639 absolutely no more nobody can deny that D_S_I5WcnG8-00533-00122640-00122878 they are apolitical or uh or D_S_I5WcnG8-00534-00122879-00123102 de-politicize these communities they're D_S_I5WcnG8-00535-00123103-00123495 very existence they're very um D_S_I5WcnG8-00536-00123496-00123654 presence D_S_I5WcnG8-00537-00123655-00123871 is political right D_S_I5WcnG8-00538-00123872-00124151 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00539-00124152-00124351 so uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00540-00124352-00124639 i mean i would also now want to D_S_I5WcnG8-00541-00124640-00124895 go ahead and trace D_S_I5WcnG8-00542-00124896-00125086 uh the condition of these dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-00543-00125088-00125239 communities and what happened to them in D_S_I5WcnG8-00544-00125240-00125463 the colonial period for me it is really D_S_I5WcnG8-00545-00125464-00125631 important i think this part especially D_S_I5WcnG8-00546-00125632-00125783 was really important D_S_I5WcnG8-00547-00125783-00126110 uh the one to sort of debunk the myth D_S_I5WcnG8-00548-00126111-00126366 that criminalization of communities and D_S_I5WcnG8-00549-00126367-00126654 marginalized communities is a colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-00550-00126655-00126919 phenomenon right um and a lot of D_S_I5WcnG8-00551-00126920-00127143 savannah authors have been advocating D_S_I5WcnG8-00552-00127144-00127439 that um and D_S_I5WcnG8-00553-00127440-00127639 i think i i have done D_S_I5WcnG8-00554-00127640-00127999 um enough uh uh i have put most of my D_S_I5WcnG8-00555-00128000-00128247 time in actually trying to debunk this D_S_I5WcnG8-00556-00128248-00128407 myth and i have focused on the D_S_I5WcnG8-00557-00128408-00128695 pre-colonial era to see why is it that D_S_I5WcnG8-00558-00128696-00128910 these so-called wandering communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00559-00128911-00129119 communities that well that were dwelling D_S_I5WcnG8-00560-00129120-00129366 in forests that means the forest tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-00561-00129367-00129614 or communities that uh wore leather D_S_I5WcnG8-00562-00129615-00129823 garments you know which is D_S_I5WcnG8-00563-00129824-00130143 which is clearly referring to uh certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00564-00130144-00130383 awareness communities why is it that D_S_I5WcnG8-00565-00130383-00130527 these communities found place in the D_S_I5WcnG8-00566-00130528-00130751 criminal tribes act and you can trace it D_S_I5WcnG8-00567-00130752-00130966 uh to the pre-colonial times and to the D_S_I5WcnG8-00568-00130967-00131287 prominent uh subjugation right of these D_S_I5WcnG8-00569-00131288-00131447 communities are you coming to the D_S_I5WcnG8-00570-00131448-00131759 criminal tribes act you know 1871 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00571-00131760-00131935 the colonial era D_S_I5WcnG8-00572-00131936-00132295 that criminalized close to 200 castes D_S_I5WcnG8-00573-00132296-00132566 and tribes uh and and i use the word D_S_I5WcnG8-00574-00132567-00132847 castes and tribes because the word tribe D_S_I5WcnG8-00575-00132848-00133119 in the criminal tribes act is a misnomer D_S_I5WcnG8-00576-00133120-00133359 uh it's a misnomer in the sense that the D_S_I5WcnG8-00577-00133360-00133663 british looked at everyone um D_S_I5WcnG8-00578-00133664-00134014 in india and and uncivilized people as D_S_I5WcnG8-00579-00134015-00134383 um as tribes right uh so you will see D_S_I5WcnG8-00580-00134384-00134543 that D_S_I5WcnG8-00581-00134544-00134702 as far as the criminal tribes act is D_S_I5WcnG8-00582-00134703-00134951 concerned that criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00583-00134952-00135247 certain communities at birth D_S_I5WcnG8-00584-00135248-00135519 this act when it came into being it was D_S_I5WcnG8-00585-00135520-00135727 it it did not happen D_S_I5WcnG8-00586-00135728-00135911 uh you know as D_S_I5WcnG8-00587-00135912-00136127 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00588-00136128-00136335 like an isolated phenomena there is a D_S_I5WcnG8-00589-00136336-00136671 history to it so uh in fact mukul kumar D_S_I5WcnG8-00590-00136672-00136999 uh has written a brilliant piece and if D_S_I5WcnG8-00591-00137000-00137295 you uh you know if you have time please D_S_I5WcnG8-00592-00137296-00137487 go through this piece D_S_I5WcnG8-00593-00137488-00137663 it's called relationship between caste D_S_I5WcnG8-00594-00137664-00137878 and crime uh it's pub it's been D_S_I5WcnG8-00595-00137879-00138287 published in epw and he says that D_S_I5WcnG8-00596-00138288-00138614 of course the colonial legal system uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00597-00138615-00138887 was informed by its own victorian D_S_I5WcnG8-00598-00138888-00139102 notions of criminality right which were D_S_I5WcnG8-00599-00139103-00139278 hereditary notions of criminality that D_S_I5WcnG8-00600-00139279-00139447 were informed by scientific race D_S_I5WcnG8-00601-00139448-00139695 theories and by scientific race theories D_S_I5WcnG8-00602-00139696-00139839 i mean D_S_I5WcnG8-00603-00139840-00140111 where um you know that there is a D_S_I5WcnG8-00604-00140112-00140263 certain racialization of certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00605-00140264-00140551 communities uh especially the ones on D_S_I5WcnG8-00606-00140552-00140943 the margins uh and associating them with D_S_I5WcnG8-00607-00140944-00141023 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00608-00141024-00141302 crime or criminality and criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00609-00141303-00141502 criminality at birth right so that's D_S_I5WcnG8-00610-00141503-00141735 hereditary criminality and you will see D_S_I5WcnG8-00611-00141736-00142143 that uh you know in uh europe many D_S_I5WcnG8-00612-00142144-00142343 communities like the roma community the D_S_I5WcnG8-00613-00142344-00142719 sintis irish travelers um these are all D_S_I5WcnG8-00614-00142720-00143023 nomadic vagrant so-called vagrant D_S_I5WcnG8-00615-00143024-00143239 migratory communities right and they D_S_I5WcnG8-00616-00143240-00143463 were seen as a threat by D_S_I5WcnG8-00617-00143464-00143607 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00618-00143608-00143887 europeans uh they were seen as a threat D_S_I5WcnG8-00619-00143888-00144247 by uh you know the british uh and D_S_I5WcnG8-00620-00144248-00144526 vagrancy acts and habitual offenders act D_S_I5WcnG8-00621-00144527-00144790 or act similar to criminal tribes act D_S_I5WcnG8-00622-00144791-00144975 that criminalized certain communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00623-00144976-00145087 existed D_S_I5WcnG8-00624-00145088-00145302 uh even in europe much before the D_S_I5WcnG8-00625-00145303-00145543 british came to india right so they were D_S_I5WcnG8-00626-00145544-00145702 already coming with D_S_I5WcnG8-00627-00145703-00145999 their own notions that certain community D_S_I5WcnG8-00628-00146000-00146199 communities are used to D_S_I5WcnG8-00629-00146200-00146343 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00630-00146344-00146671 uh you know these kind of uh uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00631-00146672-00146854 have associations with criminality and D_S_I5WcnG8-00632-00146855-00147054 are used to committing crimes D_S_I5WcnG8-00633-00147055-00147254 uh and in fact that article D_S_I5WcnG8-00634-00147255-00147487 interestingly also says that somewhere D_S_I5WcnG8-00635-00147488-00147663 that notion is D_S_I5WcnG8-00636-00147664-00147751 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00637-00147752-00148175 deeply entrenched in uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00638-00148176-00148343 the protection of private property so D_S_I5WcnG8-00639-00148344-00148526 nomadic communities or migratory D_S_I5WcnG8-00640-00148527-00148735 communities are communities that did not D_S_I5WcnG8-00641-00148736-00148911 believe in private property D_S_I5WcnG8-00642-00148912-00149159 right and because they did not believe D_S_I5WcnG8-00643-00149160-00149351 in private property the to protect D_S_I5WcnG8-00644-00149352-00149599 private property the uh europeans D_S_I5WcnG8-00645-00149600-00149751 actually criminalize these communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00646-00149752-00149895 because they thought that they these D_S_I5WcnG8-00647-00149896-00150047 communities will have no regard for D_S_I5WcnG8-00648-00150048-00150199 private property D_S_I5WcnG8-00649-00150200-00150414 right uh so so they were coming with D_S_I5WcnG8-00650-00150415-00150495 these D_S_I5WcnG8-00651-00150496-00150639 they were already coming with these D_S_I5WcnG8-00652-00150640-00150926 notions to india they had the external D_S_I5WcnG8-00653-00150927-00151183 civilizing mission uh in their mind D_S_I5WcnG8-00654-00151184-00151431 right uh as colonizers where they wanted D_S_I5WcnG8-00655-00151432-00151726 to civilize this part of the world uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00656-00151727-00151943 but there was also an already internal D_S_I5WcnG8-00657-00151944-00152095 civilizing mission that was happening in D_S_I5WcnG8-00658-00152096-00152183 india D_S_I5WcnG8-00659-00152184-00152471 and here i would uh want to D_S_I5WcnG8-00660-00152472-00152551 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00661-00152552-00152711 you know i would like to connect this D_S_I5WcnG8-00662-00152712-00152878 internal civilizing mission with D_S_I5WcnG8-00663-00152879-00153247 manuscripti with uh uh you know the D_S_I5WcnG8-00664-00153248-00153502 brahminical social order right so this D_S_I5WcnG8-00665-00153503-00153726 internal civilizing mission D_S_I5WcnG8-00666-00153727-00153935 that was criminalizing certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00667-00153936-00154175 communities and saying that they do not D_S_I5WcnG8-00668-00154176-00154487 belong to the mainstream uh brahminical D_S_I5WcnG8-00669-00154488-00154702 social political fold and they were D_S_I5WcnG8-00670-00154703-00154854 being criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00671-00154855-00155039 and what happened was there was this D_S_I5WcnG8-00672-00155040-00155159 collusion D_S_I5WcnG8-00673-00155160-00155559 this uh collusion of the colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-00674-00155560-00155790 notions of hereditary criminality on the D_S_I5WcnG8-00675-00155791-00155911 one hand D_S_I5WcnG8-00676-00155912-00156199 and uh the brahminical social order in D_S_I5WcnG8-00677-00156200-00156375 india on the other D_S_I5WcnG8-00678-00156376-00156614 and mukul kumar says that uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-00679-00156615-00156895 europeans and the colonizers the british D_S_I5WcnG8-00680-00156896-00157063 uh found suitable D_S_I5WcnG8-00681-00157064-00157271 uh that their notions found suitable D_S_I5WcnG8-00682-00157272-00157590 refuge uh in the existing brahminical or D_S_I5WcnG8-00683-00157591-00157831 caste social order that was that that D_S_I5WcnG8-00684-00157832-00158135 that existed in india right so crime D_S_I5WcnG8-00685-00158136-00158431 came to be seen as an occupation now D_S_I5WcnG8-00686-00158432-00158775 right we we we already had a system D_S_I5WcnG8-00687-00158776-00158871 where D_S_I5WcnG8-00688-00158872-00159054 uh cast D_S_I5WcnG8-00689-00159055-00159287 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00690-00159288-00159654 an occupation was imposed on a certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00691-00159655-00159839 on every community right D_S_I5WcnG8-00692-00159840-00160135 um and here you had crime that was seen D_S_I5WcnG8-00693-00160136-00160543 as an occupation right um and uh that D_S_I5WcnG8-00694-00160544-00160654 led to D_S_I5WcnG8-00695-00160655-00160831 actually the the enactment of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00696-00160832-00161102 criminal tribes act the other D_S_I5WcnG8-00697-00161103-00161343 uh sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-00698-00161344-00161523 view on this is that the D_S_I5WcnG8-00699-00161524-00161783 1857 revolt that happened and this is D_S_I5WcnG8-00700-00161784-00161990 this is more in the popular discourse D_S_I5WcnG8-00701-00161991-00162254 and some scholars talk about it that the D_S_I5WcnG8-00702-00162255-00162454 1857 revolt that happened against the D_S_I5WcnG8-00703-00162455-00162639 british D_S_I5WcnG8-00704-00162640-00162911 it had many of these lower castes tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-00705-00162912-00163135 dalit communities all these communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00706-00163136-00163278 that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00707-00163279-00163439 challenged the british D_S_I5WcnG8-00708-00163440-00163687 uh rule the british raj D_S_I5WcnG8-00709-00163688-00164071 and as a result of of this challenge uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00710-00164072-00164295 they were criminalized and they were put D_S_I5WcnG8-00711-00164296-00164463 into the criminal tribes act and defined D_S_I5WcnG8-00712-00164464-00164695 as criminal tribes right now this D_S_I5WcnG8-00713-00164696-00164943 criminal tribes act um D_S_I5WcnG8-00714-00164944-00165175 had a provision of registering D_S_I5WcnG8-00715-00165176-00165454 all such uh you know it ignorant D_S_I5WcnG8-00716-00165455-00165751 craftsman communities trade traders uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00717-00165752-00165966 nomadic traders entertainers peasant D_S_I5WcnG8-00718-00165967-00166271 communities uh certain untouchable D_S_I5WcnG8-00719-00166272-00166566 castes forest tribes all of them were D_S_I5WcnG8-00720-00166567-00166902 registered as criminal tribes right and D_S_I5WcnG8-00721-00166903-00167190 this meant when you were you were uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00722-00167191-00167431 branded as a criminal tribes you were D_S_I5WcnG8-00723-00167432-00167623 branded a criminal at birth D_S_I5WcnG8-00724-00167624-00167726 so this D_S_I5WcnG8-00725-00167727-00167943 this really important principle that we D_S_I5WcnG8-00726-00167944-00168083 talk about you know D_S_I5WcnG8-00727-00168084-00168359 about uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00728-00168360-00168607 you know uh that that one is not D_S_I5WcnG8-00729-00168608-00169007 uh um uh guilty until proven to be right D_S_I5WcnG8-00730-00169008-00169143 did not apply D_S_I5WcnG8-00731-00169144-00169343 to these criminal tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-00732-00169344-00169559 they had been criminalized the minutes D_S_I5WcnG8-00733-00169560-00169678 they were born D_S_I5WcnG8-00734-00169679-00169951 right and what this this act did was it D_S_I5WcnG8-00735-00169952-00170263 gave you an entire machinery D_S_I5WcnG8-00736-00170264-00170526 to then control the movement D_S_I5WcnG8-00737-00170527-00170678 uh the lives D_S_I5WcnG8-00738-00170679-00170831 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00739-00170832-00171071 of these communities right so where they D_S_I5WcnG8-00740-00171072-00171326 can go where they cannot go which area D_S_I5WcnG8-00741-00171327-00171638 they are contained in um and it also D_S_I5WcnG8-00742-00171639-00171775 gave penal D_S_I5WcnG8-00743-00171776-00172054 um you know provisions and measures uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00744-00172055-00172175 against the movement of these D_S_I5WcnG8-00745-00172176-00172423 communities it provided us a very D_S_I5WcnG8-00746-00172424-00172631 special surveillance mechanism constant D_S_I5WcnG8-00747-00172632-00172854 surveillance mechanism D_S_I5WcnG8-00748-00172855-00173151 uh on these criminal tribes right and it D_S_I5WcnG8-00749-00173152-00173375 was an extremely extremely draconian law D_S_I5WcnG8-00750-00173376-00173463 it is D_S_I5WcnG8-00751-00173464-00173759 this act was amended many times uh i D_S_I5WcnG8-00752-00173760-00174087 will cite a few amendments to these to D_S_I5WcnG8-00753-00174088-00174319 this act one of which was again a very D_S_I5WcnG8-00754-00174320-00174590 draconian provision which was D_S_I5WcnG8-00755-00174591-00174807 where these communities were put in open D_S_I5WcnG8-00756-00174808-00174926 jails D_S_I5WcnG8-00757-00174927-00175271 right and you find some references of uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00758-00175272-00175431 these open jails in fact i come from D_S_I5WcnG8-00759-00175432-00175575 pune D_S_I5WcnG8-00760-00175576-00175766 and the khadakwasa dam is which which is D_S_I5WcnG8-00761-00175767-00176071 one of the biggest dams uh in pune was D_S_I5WcnG8-00762-00176072-00176399 built by the vada community now water D_S_I5WcnG8-00763-00176400-00176663 community is um D_S_I5WcnG8-00764-00176664-00176902 again a nomadic community of stones you D_S_I5WcnG8-00765-00176903-00177054 know sculptors D_S_I5WcnG8-00766-00177055-00177319 um and this community was criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00767-00177320-00177638 they are migrants from andhra pradesh D_S_I5WcnG8-00768-00177639-00177751 and D_S_I5WcnG8-00769-00177752-00177871 when they were criminalized on the D_S_I5WcnG8-00770-00177872-00178071 criminal tribes act they were put into D_S_I5WcnG8-00771-00178072-00178263 these open jails where they were made to D_S_I5WcnG8-00772-00178264-00178431 do hard labor D_S_I5WcnG8-00773-00178432-00178678 um and and they had no choice D_S_I5WcnG8-00774-00178679-00179014 so it was a system of slavery wherein D_S_I5WcnG8-00775-00179015-00179159 labor was extracted from these D_S_I5WcnG8-00776-00179160-00179319 communities and they were not allowed to D_S_I5WcnG8-00777-00179320-00179551 move in any manner possible so it was D_S_I5WcnG8-00778-00179552-00179790 these open jails and their labor was D_S_I5WcnG8-00779-00179791-00180071 used to build these so-called temples of D_S_I5WcnG8-00780-00180072-00180271 modern india as we as we see them your D_S_I5WcnG8-00781-00180272-00180423 dams in your D_S_I5WcnG8-00782-00180424-00180719 industries uh the other such D_S_I5WcnG8-00783-00180720-00181063 another such open jail was in solar poor D_S_I5WcnG8-00784-00181064-00181271 right uh where D_S_I5WcnG8-00785-00181272-00181423 many uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00786-00181424-00181647 nomadic and denotified D_S_I5WcnG8-00787-00181648-00181814 at that time they were criminal tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-00788-00181815-00181983 persons were made to do this kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-00789-00181984-00182190 hard labor in the textile D_S_I5WcnG8-00790-00182191-00182359 looms over there D_S_I5WcnG8-00791-00182360-00182647 so D_S_I5WcnG8-00792-00182648-00182935 now D_S_I5WcnG8-00793-00182936-00183135 if one is to understand D_S_I5WcnG8-00794-00183136-00183438 uh what this discourse D_S_I5WcnG8-00795-00183439-00183743 uh is doing you know i i'm i'm sorry i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-00796-00183744-00183975 i tried to give a context a pre-colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-00797-00183976-00184271 and a post-colonial uh a pre-colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-00798-00184272-00184583 and a colonial context of what happened D_S_I5WcnG8-00799-00184584-00184895 to the criminal tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-00800-00184896-00185143 but um D_S_I5WcnG8-00801-00185144-00185495 if one is to see that especially uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00802-00185496-00185702 uh in the debates D_S_I5WcnG8-00803-00185703-00185943 uh that led up to the constitution D_S_I5WcnG8-00804-00185944-00186159 right um D_S_I5WcnG8-00805-00186160-00186302 uh there is there was a certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00806-00186303-00186454 discomfort D_S_I5WcnG8-00807-00186455-00186775 in D_S_I5WcnG8-00808-00186776-00186999 treating these communities the once D_S_I5WcnG8-00809-00187000-00187150 criminalized communities as equal D_S_I5WcnG8-00810-00187151-00187278 citizens D_S_I5WcnG8-00811-00187279-00187495 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00812-00187496-00187695 the criminal tribes act D_S_I5WcnG8-00813-00187696-00187943 uh stayed on we got our independence on D_S_I5WcnG8-00814-00187944-00188038 19 D_S_I5WcnG8-00815-00188039-00188326 uh 15th of august 1957 but the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00816-00188327-00188495 tribes act stayed on D_S_I5WcnG8-00817-00188496-00188838 uh till 1952 right when it was finally D_S_I5WcnG8-00818-00188839-00189054 repealed and all these criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00819-00189055-00189287 communities or criminal tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-00820-00189288-00189519 basically were denotified D_S_I5WcnG8-00821-00189520-00189887 right um and um the younger committee D_S_I5WcnG8-00822-00189888-00190087 which actually was set up to D_S_I5WcnG8-00823-00190088-00190343 look into the condition of the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00824-00190344-00190519 tribes and the working of the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00825-00190520-00190726 tribes act and was D_S_I5WcnG8-00826-00190727-00190926 supposed to suggest a repealment of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00827-00190927-00191190 act uh of course it did its job it D_S_I5WcnG8-00828-00191191-00191359 repealed the act one of its D_S_I5WcnG8-00829-00191360-00191575 recommendations was to repeal the act D_S_I5WcnG8-00830-00191576-00191807 but what it did insidiously was also D_S_I5WcnG8-00831-00191808-00192063 that it said that there is still a D_S_I5WcnG8-00832-00192064-00192414 necessity to have a law D_S_I5WcnG8-00833-00192415-00192775 that identifies habitual offenders D_S_I5WcnG8-00834-00192776-00193038 right uh so on the one hand it repealed D_S_I5WcnG8-00835-00193039-00193326 the criminal tribes act but it also saw D_S_I5WcnG8-00836-00193327-00193631 that a need for an act D_S_I5WcnG8-00837-00193632-00193719 to D_S_I5WcnG8-00838-00193720-00194014 uh identify or to classify certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00839-00194015-00194295 individuals as habituated to D_S_I5WcnG8-00840-00194296-00194535 commissioning to the commission of crime D_S_I5WcnG8-00841-00194536-00194654 or offense D_S_I5WcnG8-00842-00194655-00194990 right um and in post-colonial india then D_S_I5WcnG8-00843-00194991-00195214 uh you see that the habitual offenders D_S_I5WcnG8-00844-00195215-00195359 act stays D_S_I5WcnG8-00845-00195360-00195590 right uh the one modification between D_S_I5WcnG8-00846-00195591-00195759 the criminal tribes act and the habitual D_S_I5WcnG8-00847-00195760-00195926 offenders act is this that the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-00848-00195927-00196135 tribes are criminalized communities D_S_I5WcnG8-00849-00196136-00196319 whereas the habitual offenders act D_S_I5WcnG8-00850-00196320-00196575 criminalized uh or classified D_S_I5WcnG8-00851-00196576-00196807 individuals as habitual offenders D_S_I5WcnG8-00852-00196808-00197159 ah but you see that D_S_I5WcnG8-00853-00197160-00197335 it is not D_S_I5WcnG8-00854-00197336-00197495 very different D_S_I5WcnG8-00855-00197496-00197702 in its actual functioning it is the same D_S_I5WcnG8-00856-00197703-00197911 communities that are targeted and D_S_I5WcnG8-00857-00197912-00198038 criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-00858-00198039-00198287 uh and subjected to D_S_I5WcnG8-00859-00198288-00198543 a lot of exploitation and oppression D_S_I5WcnG8-00860-00198544-00198743 uh under the act under the habitual D_S_I5WcnG8-00861-00198744-00198911 offenders act and these are the same D_S_I5WcnG8-00862-00198912-00199143 communities uh that had been D_S_I5WcnG8-00863-00199144-00199407 criminalized by the criminal tribes act D_S_I5WcnG8-00864-00199408-00199750 right um and interestingly uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-00865-00199751-00199895 habitual offenders act its D_S_I5WcnG8-00866-00199896-00200087 constitutional validity has been D_S_I5WcnG8-00867-00200088-00200399 challenged uh many times we have close D_S_I5WcnG8-00868-00200400-00200719 to nine states uh that have nine or ten D_S_I5WcnG8-00869-00200720-00200926 states that have their D_S_I5WcnG8-00870-00200927-00201150 uh specific state habitual offenders D_S_I5WcnG8-00871-00201151-00201238 acts D_S_I5WcnG8-00872-00201239-00201647 uh but uh especially stringent amongst D_S_I5WcnG8-00873-00201648-00202023 these acts is uh is the act of madras D_S_I5WcnG8-00874-00202024-00202263 right the madras D_S_I5WcnG8-00875-00202264-00202526 habitual offenders act and you will see D_S_I5WcnG8-00876-00202527-00202743 that uh when the constitutional validity D_S_I5WcnG8-00877-00202744-00202911 of this act was challenged D_S_I5WcnG8-00878-00202912-00202990 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00879-00202991-00203078 the D_S_I5WcnG8-00880-00203079-00203287 uh it was upheld the constitutional D_S_I5WcnG8-00881-00203288-00203438 validity of the act was upheld and the D_S_I5WcnG8-00882-00203439-00203654 court said that we need this law D_S_I5WcnG8-00883-00203655-00203823 and it is interesting to see the D_S_I5WcnG8-00884-00203824-00204071 reasoning of the judge D_S_I5WcnG8-00885-00204072-00204519 uh in this in upholding this law D_S_I5WcnG8-00886-00204520-00204903 this is a case called D_S_I5WcnG8-00887-00204904-00205071 p aruma gum D_S_I5WcnG8-00888-00205071-00205255 from the madras high court D_S_I5WcnG8-00889-00205256-00205527 so p arum versus state of D_S_I5WcnG8-00890-00205528-00205646 madras D_S_I5WcnG8-00891-00205648-00205823 which upheld the constitutional validity D_S_I5WcnG8-00892-00205823-00206038 of the habitual offenders act D_S_I5WcnG8-00893-00206039-00206198 in the judgment the madras high court D_S_I5WcnG8-00894-00206200-00206431 emphasized on the act's purpose i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-00895-00206432-00206686 talking of a judgment after independence D_S_I5WcnG8-00896-00206687-00206903 after the indian constitution that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00897-00206904-00207127 envisaged equal rights D_S_I5WcnG8-00898-00207128-00207406 uh for everyone right but here you have D_S_I5WcnG8-00899-00207407-00207727 the court say uh though it emphasized on D_S_I5WcnG8-00900-00207728-00207903 the act's purpose on the protection of D_S_I5WcnG8-00901-00207904-00208062 general public D_S_I5WcnG8-00902-00208063-00208271 from a comparatively small section of D_S_I5WcnG8-00903-00208271-00208406 society D_S_I5WcnG8-00904-00208407-00208614 who are by reason of hereditary and D_S_I5WcnG8-00905-00208615-00208879 traditional inclinations or by inherent D_S_I5WcnG8-00906-00208880-00209255 nature prone to commit a serious offence D_S_I5WcnG8-00907-00209256-00209455 so this is the reasoning that the court D_S_I5WcnG8-00908-00209456-00209646 is providing and it is entrenched if you D_S_I5WcnG8-00909-00209648-00210055 see this is 1953 and it is entrenched uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00910-00210056-00210246 in these notions of hereditary D_S_I5WcnG8-00911-00210248-00210510 criminality that can be traced to D_S_I5WcnG8-00912-00210511-00210758 a the pre-colonial times the manuscripty D_S_I5WcnG8-00913-00210759-00210998 and the criminal tribes act right which D_S_I5WcnG8-00914-00211000-00211134 said that certain D_S_I5WcnG8-00915-00211135-00211503 communities are inclined uh to D_S_I5WcnG8-00916-00211504-00211742 committing uh crimes D_S_I5WcnG8-00917-00211744-00212063 right um and and you don't see a lot of D_S_I5WcnG8-00918-00212064-00212287 difference in the actual functioning of D_S_I5WcnG8-00919-00212288-00212463 the either the habitual offenders act in D_S_I5WcnG8-00920-00212464-00212679 various states uh or the habitual D_S_I5WcnG8-00921-00212680-00212846 offenders provisions in the form of D_S_I5WcnG8-00922-00212848-00213031 section 110 D_S_I5WcnG8-00923-00213032-00213239 of the crpc D_S_I5WcnG8-00924-00213240-00213503 and a recent example of this is D_S_I5WcnG8-00925-00213504-00213775 when these provisions uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00926-00213776-00213919 many of which D_S_I5WcnG8-00927-00213919-00214375 uh have been used against dalit D_S_I5WcnG8-00928-00214376-00214606 and i will cite a few examples of some D_S_I5WcnG8-00929-00214607-00214767 very basic provisions that have been D_S_I5WcnG8-00930-00214767-00214894 used to D_S_I5WcnG8-00931-00214896-00215063 um D_S_I5WcnG8-00932-00215064-00215294 target these communities nikita here is D_S_I5WcnG8-00933-00215296-00215446 an expert on D_S_I5WcnG8-00934-00215448-00215719 how the excise law and gambling act etc D_S_I5WcnG8-00935-00215719-00215919 have been used and they have conducted D_S_I5WcnG8-00936-00215919-00216198 extensive studies uh on how these these D_S_I5WcnG8-00937-00216200-00216415 laws have been used to D_S_I5WcnG8-00938-00216416-00216671 target uh marginalized identities but i D_S_I5WcnG8-00939-00216671-00217023 will uh try to focus on uh the section D_S_I5WcnG8-00940-00217023-00217255 section 110 of the crpc which is a D_S_I5WcnG8-00941-00217256-00217455 habitual offender's provision which D_S_I5WcnG8-00942-00217456-00217694 basically empowers the police to D_S_I5WcnG8-00943-00217696-00217903 classify certain individuals as habitual D_S_I5WcnG8-00944-00217904-00218231 offenders and then it's sort of um D_S_I5WcnG8-00945-00218232-00218463 it is a preventive policing practice D_S_I5WcnG8-00946-00218464-00218558 where D_S_I5WcnG8-00947-00218559-00218823 a shortity uh of good behavior is is D_S_I5WcnG8-00948-00218823-00219079 expected and demanded uh from an D_S_I5WcnG8-00949-00219080-00219334 individual who is uh classified as an D_S_I5WcnG8-00950-00219335-00219575 habitual as a habitual offender D_S_I5WcnG8-00951-00219576-00219742 now the case of savannah's highway is D_S_I5WcnG8-00952-00219744-00219958 very uh interesting and very important D_S_I5WcnG8-00953-00219959-00220039 actually D_S_I5WcnG8-00954-00220040-00220246 to understand how these provisions such D_S_I5WcnG8-00955-00220248-00220558 as habitual offenders uh provisions are D_S_I5WcnG8-00956-00220559-00220734 you know you can trace them from the D_S_I5WcnG8-00957-00220735-00220894 criminal tribes act but you will see D_S_I5WcnG8-00958-00220896-00221175 their traces um you will see their D_S_I5WcnG8-00959-00221176-00221471 presence uh in today's times so subarnaz D_S_I5WcnG8-00960-00221471-00221734 are we are 24 year old dalit girl from D_S_I5WcnG8-00961-00221735-00222167 um uh you know a slum in mumbai uh is D_S_I5WcnG8-00962-00222167-00222471 she's an activist a you know brilliant a D_S_I5WcnG8-00963-00222471-00222903 protester and uh she is a singer um and D_S_I5WcnG8-00964-00222904-00223079 she was protesting at the time of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00965-00223080-00223310 anti-can rc protests and she was leading D_S_I5WcnG8-00966-00223311-00223598 the protests at the time D_S_I5WcnG8-00967-00223600-00223951 and she was uh sent a notice so nfire D_S_I5WcnG8-00968-00223952-00224142 was lodged against her for protesting D_S_I5WcnG8-00969-00224144-00224358 and when the affair was lodged uh it was D_S_I5WcnG8-00970-00224359-00224639 an unlawful ass D_S_I5WcnG8-00971-00224640-00224839 the charges were that it was an unlawful D_S_I5WcnG8-00972-00224840-00225063 assembly and when the effect was lodged D_S_I5WcnG8-00973-00225064-00225231 this was the first ever fire against D_S_I5WcnG8-00974-00225232-00225575 suvarna um and i am talking about people D_S_I5WcnG8-00975-00225576-00225734 who are habituated to committing D_S_I5WcnG8-00976-00225735-00225927 commissioning com committing offenses D_S_I5WcnG8-00977-00225928-00226119 right so so when this is she's a D_S_I5WcnG8-00978-00226119-00226367 first-time offender um this is the first D_S_I5WcnG8-00979-00226367-00226494 affair lodge against her but she D_S_I5WcnG8-00980-00226496-00226646 receives a notice from the police which D_S_I5WcnG8-00981-00226648-00226887 says that uh we are demanding a shortage D_S_I5WcnG8-00982-00226888-00227055 of 50 lakh from you D_S_I5WcnG8-00983-00227056-00227287 uh for good of good behavior D_S_I5WcnG8-00984-00227288-00227471 um and uh D_S_I5WcnG8-00985-00227471-00227671 and for a period of two years and for a D_S_I5WcnG8-00986-00227671-00227863 period of two years if we do not see D_S_I5WcnG8-00987-00227864-00228182 that you are complying with uh this um D_S_I5WcnG8-00988-00228183-00228446 uh you know uh we with with our D_S_I5WcnG8-00989-00228448-00228758 requirement uh then uh we will D_S_I5WcnG8-00990-00228759-00228951 confiscate either the property in the D_S_I5WcnG8-00991-00228952-00229215 form of the surety or or the amount of D_S_I5WcnG8-00992-00229216-00229351 50 lakhs D_S_I5WcnG8-00993-00229352-00229687 so um and again she was also issued a D_S_I5WcnG8-00994-00229688-00229863 notice of experiment which is a 30-part D_S_I5WcnG8-00995-00229864-00230087 notice where you have where you were D_S_I5WcnG8-00996-00230088-00230287 sent outside the district limit of the D_S_I5WcnG8-00997-00230288-00230487 city limits um D_S_I5WcnG8-00998-00230488-00230727 as again a preventive policing practice D_S_I5WcnG8-00999-00230728-00231151 right um and here is you know this young D_S_I5WcnG8-01000-00231152-00231439 girl you know dalit girl D_S_I5WcnG8-01001-00231440-00231703 lives in islam and the police is is D_S_I5WcnG8-01002-00231704-00231871 using this provision D_S_I5WcnG8-01003-00231871-00232134 um just arbitrarily actually misusing D_S_I5WcnG8-01004-00232135-00232358 the provision um and there is so much D_S_I5WcnG8-01005-00232359-00232598 discretion to the police over here now D_S_I5WcnG8-01006-00232600-00232758 it's not just the police but there is D_S_I5WcnG8-01007-00232759-00232887 also the collusion of the executive D_S_I5WcnG8-01008-00232888-00233231 magistrate in the use of section 110 you D_S_I5WcnG8-01009-00233232-00233334 see that D_S_I5WcnG8-01010-00233335-00233463 there needs to be a sanction from the D_S_I5WcnG8-01011-00233464-00233655 executive magistrate for this so the D_S_I5WcnG8-01012-00233656-00233927 executive magistrate and the police uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01013-00233928-00234039 are coming together D_S_I5WcnG8-01014-00234040-00234110 and D_S_I5WcnG8-01015-00234111-00234342 uh imposing such such a such a hefty D_S_I5WcnG8-01016-00234344-00234567 surety uh and expecting demanding that D_S_I5WcnG8-01017-00234567-00234727 kind of charity from D_S_I5WcnG8-01018-00234728-00234975 uh someone like suvarna D_S_I5WcnG8-01019-00234976-00235198 um the other um D_S_I5WcnG8-01020-00235200-00235391 incident that i would like to point out D_S_I5WcnG8-01021-00235392-00235606 is that of um D_S_I5WcnG8-01022-00235607-00235719 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01023-00235719-00236006 the bhima korega protests and even as we D_S_I5WcnG8-01024-00236007-00236142 speak about D_S_I5WcnG8-01025-00236144-00236351 uh dissenting individuals who are D_S_I5WcnG8-01026-00236352-00236598 associated with bhima and elgar parisha D_S_I5WcnG8-01027-00236600-00236782 then we know their names D_S_I5WcnG8-01028-00236783-00236951 but we often forget that there were D_S_I5WcnG8-01029-00236952-00237142 dissenting protesters D_S_I5WcnG8-01030-00237144-00237423 uh and these were dalit protesters D_S_I5WcnG8-01031-00237423-00237631 thousands of them on streets and what D_S_I5WcnG8-01032-00237632-00237815 was happening to them is is something D_S_I5WcnG8-01033-00237816-00237951 that we have not D_S_I5WcnG8-01034-00237952-00238342 uh known or talked about so when bhima D_S_I5WcnG8-01035-00238344-00238582 koregaon the violence in D_S_I5WcnG8-01036-00238583-00238775 bhima happened D_S_I5WcnG8-01037-00238776-00239039 in 2018 it was a one-sided violent D_S_I5WcnG8-01038-00239040-00239263 attack on the dalit community that was D_S_I5WcnG8-01039-00239264-00239542 coming there in to be to bhima to pay D_S_I5WcnG8-01040-00239544-00239727 their homage on the 200th D_S_I5WcnG8-01041-00239728-00239846 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01042-00239848-00240223 year of uh the battle of bhima D_S_I5WcnG8-01043-00240223-00240423 um and you saw that D_S_I5WcnG8-01044-00240423-00240519 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01045-00240519-00240727 when the attack happened in a one-sided D_S_I5WcnG8-01046-00240728-00240887 attack on the dalits who had gathered D_S_I5WcnG8-01047-00240888-00241327 there had happened um a lot of dalit uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01048-00241328-00241415 you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01049-00241416-00241671 young young people came on the streets D_S_I5WcnG8-01050-00241671-00241823 and protested D_S_I5WcnG8-01051-00241823-00242151 against that violent attack in fact um D_S_I5WcnG8-01052-00242152-00242446 prakash ambedkarji gave a call D_S_I5WcnG8-01053-00242448-00242615 for protests D_S_I5WcnG8-01054-00242616-00242742 and there were thousands of these D_S_I5WcnG8-01055-00242744-00242942 youngsters who were protesting D_S_I5WcnG8-01056-00242944-00243127 and in the aftermath of these protests D_S_I5WcnG8-01057-00243128-00243294 what you saw was that the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01058-00243296-00243423 themselves D_S_I5WcnG8-01059-00243423-00243758 uh registered 655 firs so these were all D_S_I5WcnG8-01060-00243759-00244015 these fires were uh you know registered D_S_I5WcnG8-01061-00244016-00244327 by the police officials uh against the D_S_I5WcnG8-01062-00244328-00244575 protesting dalit youth the the D_S_I5WcnG8-01063-00244576-00244806 protesting dalit youngsters D_S_I5WcnG8-01064-00244807-00245046 and in these 655 fires you would see D_S_I5WcnG8-01065-00245048-00245134 that D_S_I5WcnG8-01066-00245135-00245542 each fir would have some 200 250 300 D_S_I5WcnG8-01067-00245544-00245815 unnamed dalits right uh and the D_S_I5WcnG8-01068-00245816-00246015 locations that mentioned were mentioned D_S_I5WcnG8-01069-00246016-00246246 there were uh you know dalits from D_S_I5WcnG8-01070-00246248-00246551 ambedkar basti ramabhai basi bhimbasi D_S_I5WcnG8-01071-00246552-00246775 you know these kind of locations D_S_I5WcnG8-01072-00246776-00247023 um and what it did was in effect in D_S_I5WcnG8-01073-00247023-00247351 these 655 fires if you see a new uh if D_S_I5WcnG8-01074-00247352-00247542 you if you were you know one would study D_S_I5WcnG8-01075-00247544-00247671 those affairs we were studying those D_S_I5WcnG8-01076-00247671-00247967 afires and we saw that in effect it D_S_I5WcnG8-01077-00247967-00248055 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01078-00248056-00248391 criminalized close to 11 000 D_S_I5WcnG8-01079-00248392-00248671 uh dalit youngsters in maharashtra's D_S_I5WcnG8-01080-00248671-00248919 protesters in maharashtra D_S_I5WcnG8-01081-00248919-00249342 at that time right so these 11 000 D_S_I5WcnG8-01082-00249344-00249639 unnamed dalit youngsters from rama by D_S_I5WcnG8-01083-00249640-00249846 was the behemoth D_S_I5WcnG8-01084-00249848-00250063 were actually potential targets of the D_S_I5WcnG8-01085-00250064-00250151 state D_S_I5WcnG8-01086-00250152-00250319 and at any point the state could D_S_I5WcnG8-01087-00250319-00250575 weaponize and the police could weaponize D_S_I5WcnG8-01088-00250576-00250903 these firs and they did that D_S_I5WcnG8-01089-00250904-00251079 a year later nothing happened when the D_S_I5WcnG8-01090-00251080-00251342 affairs were lodged but a year later you D_S_I5WcnG8-01091-00251344-00251639 saw that the police started uh combing D_S_I5WcnG8-01092-00251640-00251951 operations they started summoning uh you D_S_I5WcnG8-01093-00251952-00252151 know random dalit youngsters they D_S_I5WcnG8-01094-00252152-00252430 started entering these busties and D_S_I5WcnG8-01095-00252431-00252671 picking and arresting people D_S_I5WcnG8-01096-00252671-00252894 right exterminant and dadipad notices D_S_I5WcnG8-01097-00252896-00253119 were being served so what it did was it D_S_I5WcnG8-01098-00253119-00253358 created this immense sense D_S_I5WcnG8-01099-00253359-00253534 of fear D_S_I5WcnG8-01100-00253535-00253887 in the dalit community right so what you D_S_I5WcnG8-01101-00253888-00254103 you you therefore see that how the D_S_I5WcnG8-01102-00254104-00254294 system you have these dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-01103-00254296-00254479 individuals who are protesting this D_S_I5WcnG8-01104-00254480-00254782 violent attack in bhima on the one hand D_S_I5WcnG8-01105-00254783-00254967 and the system is trying to criminalize D_S_I5WcnG8-01106-00254967-00255191 them and trying to induce the sense of D_S_I5WcnG8-01107-00255192-00255439 fear in the community D_S_I5WcnG8-01108-00255440-00255639 right and it has a chilling effect it D_S_I5WcnG8-01109-00255640-00255903 definitely has a chilling effect because D_S_I5WcnG8-01110-00255904-00256063 these youngsters were approaching D_S_I5WcnG8-01111-00256064-00256263 lawyers and they did not have legal aid D_S_I5WcnG8-01112-00256264-00256398 they did not have the right kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01113-00256400-00256575 legal advice they did not D_S_I5WcnG8-01114-00256576-00256791 uh have the resources to fight these D_S_I5WcnG8-01115-00256792-00257094 cases each uh bail bond would cost them D_S_I5WcnG8-01116-00257096-00257310 some 25 30 000 D_S_I5WcnG8-01117-00257311-00257567 rupees right and they did not have that D_S_I5WcnG8-01118-00257567-00257942 kind of money uh to be released on bail D_S_I5WcnG8-01119-00257944-00258206 right uh so what it did was it instantly D_S_I5WcnG8-01120-00258207-00258471 created this this sense of fear in the D_S_I5WcnG8-01121-00258471-00258687 community right and had a chilling D_S_I5WcnG8-01122-00258688-00258982 effect what i'm trying to point out is D_S_I5WcnG8-01123-00258983-00259382 that um D_S_I5WcnG8-01124-00259383-00259734 it is these dissenting communities right D_S_I5WcnG8-01125-00259735-00259894 that are completely invisibilized in D_S_I5WcnG8-01126-00259896-00260063 this discourse D_S_I5WcnG8-01127-00260064-00260319 it is their plight that is completely D_S_I5WcnG8-01128-00260319-00260534 invisibleized in the in the larger D_S_I5WcnG8-01129-00260535-00260687 discourse of D_S_I5WcnG8-01130-00260688-00260927 dissenting individuals or political D_S_I5WcnG8-01131-00260928-00261055 prisoners D_S_I5WcnG8-01132-00261056-00261371 um and it is these communities that are D_S_I5WcnG8-01133-00261371-00261527 de-politicized D_S_I5WcnG8-01134-00261528-00261863 isn't uh a dalit youngster protesting D_S_I5WcnG8-01135-00261864-00262191 against this violent attack uh political D_S_I5WcnG8-01136-00262192-00262430 they are all in fact youngsters most of D_S_I5WcnG8-01137-00262431-00262727 them were associated with many alibaba D_S_I5WcnG8-01138-00262728-00263030 political parties right at that time D_S_I5WcnG8-01139-00263031-00263358 um and this when this happened D_S_I5WcnG8-01140-00263359-00263591 this actually happened a few months D_S_I5WcnG8-01141-00263592-00263863 prior to the general uh to the elections D_S_I5WcnG8-01142-00263864-00264271 in maharashtra um and it definitely had D_S_I5WcnG8-01143-00264272-00264558 uh you know a certain D_S_I5WcnG8-01144-00264559-00264687 effect D_S_I5WcnG8-01145-00264688-00264879 in terms of you know these career D_S_I5WcnG8-01146-00264880-00265110 karta's uh belong coming from these D_S_I5WcnG8-01147-00265111-00265287 political parties D_S_I5WcnG8-01148-00265288-00265671 felt threatened and uh did not want to D_S_I5WcnG8-01149-00265672-00265791 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01150-00265792-00265982 and and they were obviously busy with D_S_I5WcnG8-01151-00265983-00266239 their legal cases so so they were not D_S_I5WcnG8-01152-00266240-00266439 able to do the campaigning for these D_S_I5WcnG8-01153-00266440-00266599 parties so there was definitely some D_S_I5WcnG8-01154-00266600-00266895 sense of uh you know what the government D_S_I5WcnG8-01155-00266896-00267023 and the world what the state and the D_S_I5WcnG8-01156-00267024-00267215 police was doing at that time very D_S_I5WcnG8-01157-00267216-00267334 clearly D_S_I5WcnG8-01158-00267335-00267471 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01159-00267472-00267695 i would also like to point to another D_S_I5WcnG8-01160-00267696-00267863 incident which is D_S_I5WcnG8-01161-00267864-00268103 uh the ramabai uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01162-00268104-00268351 killings uh in mumbai in D_S_I5WcnG8-01163-00268352-00268439 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01164-00268440-00268695 this this incident that happened D_S_I5WcnG8-01165-00268696-00268882 if i'm not wrong in D_S_I5WcnG8-01166-00268883-00269167 1998 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01167-00269168-00269471 where uh dr babasav ambedkar's statue D_S_I5WcnG8-01168-00269472-00269751 was desecrated with a garland of chapels D_S_I5WcnG8-01169-00269752-00270047 and people were protesting and D_S_I5WcnG8-01170-00270048-00270239 people from the bastille were protesting D_S_I5WcnG8-01171-00270240-00270439 against it and they actually D_S_I5WcnG8-01172-00270440-00270671 um um D_S_I5WcnG8-01173-00270672-00270919 sort of um D_S_I5WcnG8-01174-00270920-00271119 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01175-00271120-00271271 occupied an area D_S_I5WcnG8-01176-00271272-00271510 of the highway D_S_I5WcnG8-01177-00271511-00271719 sorry to interrupt yeah you were five D_S_I5WcnG8-01178-00271720-00271982 minutes yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll quickly D_S_I5WcnG8-01179-00271983-00273310 wind up i'll quickly wind up D_S_I5WcnG8-01180-00273311-00273575 yeah D_S_I5WcnG8-01181-00273576-00273703 so um D_S_I5WcnG8-01182-00273704-00273958 the the ramabai incident if one looks at D_S_I5WcnG8-01183-00273959-00274263 it is where the srpf then D_S_I5WcnG8-01184-00274264-00274439 uh these were dissenting individuals D_S_I5WcnG8-01185-00274440-00274679 these were individuals who were unhappy D_S_I5WcnG8-01186-00274680-00274967 uh and who were extremely agitated uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01187-00274968-00275175 with how um D_S_I5WcnG8-01188-00275176-00275415 uh dr babasa bambidkar's statue was D_S_I5WcnG8-01189-00275416-00275727 desecrated and they were protesting D_S_I5WcnG8-01190-00275728-00276023 and the srpf um you know the the sub D_S_I5WcnG8-01191-00276024-00276351 inspector of the srpf um gave orders to D_S_I5WcnG8-01192-00276352-00276727 fire at an unarmed crowd and close to 11 D_S_I5WcnG8-01193-00276728-00276823 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01194-00276824-00277015 dalit people were killed D_S_I5WcnG8-01195-00277016-00277206 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01196-00277207-00277558 close to 20 25 people were injured D_S_I5WcnG8-01197-00277559-00277943 um and um the inquiry actually found D_S_I5WcnG8-01198-00277944-00278143 that the sub-inspector who gave these D_S_I5WcnG8-01199-00278144-00278382 orders uh had multiple D_S_I5WcnG8-01200-00278383-00278682 atrocities cases filed by its against D_S_I5WcnG8-01201-00278683-00278919 him so D_S_I5WcnG8-01202-00278920-00279127 i mean the question comes D_S_I5WcnG8-01203-00279128-00279375 uh and the question therefore is D_S_I5WcnG8-01204-00279376-00279582 what about the descent of these D_S_I5WcnG8-01205-00279583-00279887 communities and isn't it political uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01206-00279888-00280223 why is this descent depoliticized why D_S_I5WcnG8-01207-00280224-00280455 why are these communities depoliticized D_S_I5WcnG8-01208-00280456-00280639 in the larger discourse on descent and D_S_I5WcnG8-01209-00280640-00280879 why is there no talk about D_S_I5WcnG8-01210-00280880-00281182 these dissenting communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01211-00281183-00281295 i would D_S_I5WcnG8-01212-00281296-00281567 i think and i would conclude now uh i D_S_I5WcnG8-01213-00281568-00281767 had to i wanted to speak a little about D_S_I5WcnG8-01214-00281768-00281975 the anti-begging act nikita if you can D_S_I5WcnG8-01215-00281976-00282223 give me some five minutes more yeah you D_S_I5WcnG8-01216-00282224-00282463 have five stars D_S_I5WcnG8-01217-00282464-00282567 go ahead D_S_I5WcnG8-01218-00282568-00282727 it is one legislation one piece of D_S_I5WcnG8-01219-00282728-00283023 legislation that we uh do not know about D_S_I5WcnG8-01220-00283024-00283463 it is a law that criminalizes begging D_S_I5WcnG8-01221-00283464-00283727 in india um you will see that the D_S_I5WcnG8-01222-00283728-00284006 anti-bugging act uh the main act is that D_S_I5WcnG8-01223-00284007-00284230 of maharashtra the bombay uh prevention D_S_I5WcnG8-01224-00284231-00284454 of begging act and close to 20 states D_S_I5WcnG8-01225-00284455-00284751 have uh adopted this act D_S_I5WcnG8-01226-00284752-00284982 and what this act does it is it D_S_I5WcnG8-01227-00284983-00285215 criminalizes begging D_S_I5WcnG8-01228-00285216-00285606 but it also somewhere equates D_S_I5WcnG8-01229-00285607-00285919 uh the fact that there are nomadic D_S_I5WcnG8-01230-00285920-00286103 communities coming entertainer D_S_I5WcnG8-01231-00286104-00286334 communities such as dhombaris madharis D_S_I5WcnG8-01232-00286335-00286599 vale you know these kind of communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01233-00286600-00286879 nuts uh these kind of the ones that you D_S_I5WcnG8-01234-00286880-00287087 see you know performing acrobats on the D_S_I5WcnG8-01235-00287088-00287406 streets these kind of communities uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01236-00287407-00287591 their their their occupation and their D_S_I5WcnG8-01237-00287592-00287767 traditional occupation their D_S_I5WcnG8-01238-00287768-00288023 intergenerational occupation uh has been D_S_I5WcnG8-01239-00288024-00288182 equated with begging D_S_I5WcnG8-01240-00288183-00288399 and begging the act of begging has been D_S_I5WcnG8-01241-00288400-00288703 criminalized so what you see is that D_S_I5WcnG8-01242-00288704-00288782 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01243-00288783-00288943 the D_S_I5WcnG8-01244-00288944-00289223 traditional occupations uh the modern D_S_I5WcnG8-01245-00289224-00289367 manner of D_S_I5WcnG8-01246-00289368-00289567 leading and living your life D_S_I5WcnG8-01247-00289568-00289871 right uh those that mode and manner has D_S_I5WcnG8-01248-00289872-00290143 been criminalized by this by these laws D_S_I5WcnG8-01249-00290144-00290439 and uh the punishment in fact in the D_S_I5WcnG8-01250-00290440-00290758 anti-begging law goes up to 10 years D_S_I5WcnG8-01251-00290759-00291079 right um and this kind of incarceration D_S_I5WcnG8-01252-00291080-00291351 either in begging a beggar's home D_S_I5WcnG8-01253-00291352-00291439 or D_S_I5WcnG8-01254-00291440-00291719 say in um you know there is also D_S_I5WcnG8-01255-00291720-00292023 provision where the incarceration can be D_S_I5WcnG8-01256-00292024-00292191 you know they can be put into prisons as D_S_I5WcnG8-01257-00292192-00292423 well so this kind of incarceration what D_S_I5WcnG8-01258-00292424-00292727 it does is it criminalizes the only mode D_S_I5WcnG8-01259-00292728-00292958 of survival for such communities that D_S_I5WcnG8-01260-00292959-00293199 have been extremely extremely that are D_S_I5WcnG8-01261-00293200-00293375 extremely marginalized and pushed to D_S_I5WcnG8-01262-00293376-00293582 have been pushed to the margins right so D_S_I5WcnG8-01263-00293583-00293782 they are left with no source of D_S_I5WcnG8-01264-00293783-00294015 livelihood no source of survival if you D_S_I5WcnG8-01265-00294016-00294182 see the condition of party community and D_S_I5WcnG8-01266-00294183-00294399 you will see a lot of these communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01267-00294400-00294695 uh a lot of party people on street D_S_I5WcnG8-01268-00294696-00294927 signals selling small things like you D_S_I5WcnG8-01269-00294928-00295303 know lemons or like books or toys or or D_S_I5WcnG8-01270-00295304-00295487 either begging also on the streets you D_S_I5WcnG8-01271-00295488-00295679 will see that they are subject to D_S_I5WcnG8-01272-00295680-00295982 constant harassment by the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01273-00295983-00296279 uh by these anti-begging squads um and D_S_I5WcnG8-01274-00296280-00296447 they are constantly put in these begging D_S_I5WcnG8-01275-00296448-00296687 homes uh beggars homes and the beggars D_S_I5WcnG8-01276-00296688-00296951 homes in fact have a provision where D_S_I5WcnG8-01277-00296952-00297054 children D_S_I5WcnG8-01278-00297055-00297343 are separated from their parents right D_S_I5WcnG8-01279-00297344-00297463 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01280-00297464-00297687 and they are put into uh children's D_S_I5WcnG8-01281-00297688-00297782 homes D_S_I5WcnG8-01282-00297783-00298110 so so the fact that the party community D_S_I5WcnG8-01283-00298111-00298447 which is a hunting community uh their D_S_I5WcnG8-01284-00298448-00298647 occupation their traditional livelihood D_S_I5WcnG8-01285-00298648-00298871 which is hunting has been criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-01286-00298872-00299134 by the state okay one might advocate for D_S_I5WcnG8-01287-00299135-00299334 protection of wildlife which again i D_S_I5WcnG8-01288-00299335-00299527 don't agree with and nikita will tell us D_S_I5WcnG8-01289-00299528-00299854 about how uh there is a schedule uh five D_S_I5WcnG8-01290-00299855-00299991 and um D_S_I5WcnG8-01291-00299992-00300071 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01292-00300072-00300351 why uh uh you know this this kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01293-00300352-00300623 criminalization of parties or or certain D_S_I5WcnG8-01294-00300624-00300934 hunting communities is is not um uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01295-00300935-00301063 reasonable D_S_I5WcnG8-01296-00301064-00301254 but let's go beyond that and let's say D_S_I5WcnG8-01297-00301255-00301463 that the traditional occupation has been D_S_I5WcnG8-01298-00301464-00301687 criminalized and let's say there is a D_S_I5WcnG8-01299-00301688-00301967 law now uh but the fact that you have D_S_I5WcnG8-01300-00301968-00302230 ousted these communities uh from the D_S_I5WcnG8-01301-00302231-00302463 forests they have been ousted from their D_S_I5WcnG8-01302-00302464-00302647 jungles D_S_I5WcnG8-01303-00302648-00302903 the only mode of livelihood source of D_S_I5WcnG8-01304-00302904-00303087 survival for these communities is to D_S_I5WcnG8-01305-00303088-00303319 come to cities and do these meager D_S_I5WcnG8-01306-00303320-00303623 menial jobs uh and and they're living on D_S_I5WcnG8-01307-00303624-00303839 the streets in these shanties alongside D_S_I5WcnG8-01308-00303840-00304127 roads under flyovers trying to meet and D_S_I5WcnG8-01309-00304128-00304343 make ends meet but you again see that D_S_I5WcnG8-01310-00304344-00304519 the state comes up with another law the D_S_I5WcnG8-01311-00304520-00304775 anti-begging act which criminalizes the D_S_I5WcnG8-01312-00304776-00305054 fact that these communities um D_S_I5WcnG8-01313-00305055-00305230 are living on the streets or or they're D_S_I5WcnG8-01314-00305231-00305423 living under flyovers and they are D_S_I5WcnG8-01315-00305424-00305575 criminalized and subject to constant D_S_I5WcnG8-01316-00305576-00305839 police harassment D_S_I5WcnG8-01317-00305840-00306191 so the the final you know question uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01318-00306192-00306382 before us is that D_S_I5WcnG8-01319-00306383-00306599 uh the erasure D_S_I5WcnG8-01320-00306600-00306775 and the invisibilization of all these D_S_I5WcnG8-01321-00306776-00306958 dissenting communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01322-00306959-00307239 right um what happens D_S_I5WcnG8-01323-00307240-00307463 because of this erasure i according to D_S_I5WcnG8-01324-00307464-00307710 me the syracuse is extremely fastest D_S_I5WcnG8-01325-00307711-00307871 uh if if D_S_I5WcnG8-01326-00307872-00308087 uh the mainstream savannah civil D_S_I5WcnG8-01327-00308088-00308254 liberties discourse D_S_I5WcnG8-01328-00308255-00308495 can highlight and focus on individual D_S_I5WcnG8-01329-00308496-00308727 dissenting individuals then why is it D_S_I5WcnG8-01330-00308728-00309039 that it cannot see the plight of D_S_I5WcnG8-01331-00309040-00309279 lacks of these dissenting communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01332-00309280-00309423 the communities that have been D_S_I5WcnG8-01333-00309424-00309567 criminalized and that face D_S_I5WcnG8-01334-00309568-00309823 criminalization on a day-to-day basis D_S_I5WcnG8-01335-00309824-00309943 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01336-00309944-00310119 according to me it is fastest and it is D_S_I5WcnG8-01337-00310120-00310254 discriminatory D_S_I5WcnG8-01338-00310255-00310454 uh i think that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01339-00310455-00310767 just to conclude i i think that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01340-00310768-00311110 this discourse of uh over visibilization D_S_I5WcnG8-01341-00311111-00311303 and hypervisibilization of dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-01342-00311304-00311591 individuals mostly brahman savannah and D_S_I5WcnG8-01343-00311592-00311719 the invisibilization and D_S_I5WcnG8-01344-00311720-00311943 depoliticization of dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-01345-00311944-00312206 communities with such a history D_S_I5WcnG8-01346-00312207-00312567 unjust history of criminalization and D_S_I5WcnG8-01347-00312568-00312799 state persecution D_S_I5WcnG8-01348-00312800-00312975 is essentially casters and creates a D_S_I5WcnG8-01349-00312976-00313167 hierarchy of D_S_I5WcnG8-01350-00313168-00313358 those who are incarcerated and those who D_S_I5WcnG8-01351-00313359-00313534 are criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-01352-00313535-00313871 what it also does is it's normalizes D_S_I5WcnG8-01353-00313872-00314127 uh the brahminist social order the brahm D_S_I5WcnG8-01354-00314128-00314471 the caste colonial system D_S_I5WcnG8-01355-00314472-00314647 that is responsible for this kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01356-00314648-00314854 criminalization because then when you're D_S_I5WcnG8-01357-00314855-00314982 talking about dissenting individuals D_S_I5WcnG8-01358-00314983-00315119 you're only talking about the state and D_S_I5WcnG8-01359-00315120-00315334 the regime right you're not talking D_S_I5WcnG8-01360-00315335-00315519 you're only talking about the regime D_S_I5WcnG8-01361-00315520-00315647 you're talking about this government or D_S_I5WcnG8-01362-00315648-00315839 that government but you're not talking D_S_I5WcnG8-01363-00315840-00316030 uh about the systems that are D_S_I5WcnG8-01364-00316031-00316167 responsible for this kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01365-00316168-00316375 criminalization right so there is a need D_S_I5WcnG8-01366-00316376-00316527 to center caste D_S_I5WcnG8-01367-00316528-00316775 um in these discussions and when you D_S_I5WcnG8-01368-00316776-00316982 erase dissenting communities you erase D_S_I5WcnG8-01369-00316983-00317239 caste and you almost treat dissent and D_S_I5WcnG8-01370-00317240-00317391 criminalization of descent as this D_S_I5WcnG8-01371-00317392-00317567 post-caste phenomena D_S_I5WcnG8-01372-00317568-00317903 right um so so i feel that uh all in all D_S_I5WcnG8-01373-00317904-00318051 um i feel that this kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01374-00318052-00318239 depoliticization is D_S_I5WcnG8-01375-00318240-00318463 deliberate and there is a need to look D_S_I5WcnG8-01376-00318464-00318551 at D_S_I5WcnG8-01377-00318552-00318806 uh all these communities uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-01378-00318807-00319023 marginalized castes tribes nomadic and D_S_I5WcnG8-01379-00319024-00319182 wandering communities the avenue D_S_I5WcnG8-01380-00319183-00319423 communities that have been criminalized D_S_I5WcnG8-01381-00319424-00319734 uh and to endow them with with the D_S_I5WcnG8-01382-00319735-00319958 politicity that they deserve D_S_I5WcnG8-01383-00319959-00320263 um and then there is uh therefore a need D_S_I5WcnG8-01384-00320264-00320479 to center the dissenting communities in D_S_I5WcnG8-01385-00320480-00320695 this entire discourse around civil D_S_I5WcnG8-01386-00320696-00320927 liberties and to just conclude i would D_S_I5WcnG8-01387-00320928-00321143 just say and i would quote from uh what D_S_I5WcnG8-01388-00321144-00321295 dr baba said D_S_I5WcnG8-01389-00321296-00321503 writes and gandhi janna and D_S_I5WcnG8-01390-00321504-00321703 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01391-00321704-00321967 and he's he's comparing uh he he was D_S_I5WcnG8-01392-00321968-00322206 actually delivering a lecture on uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01393-00322207-00322463 randy's 101st birth anniversary and he D_S_I5WcnG8-01394-00322464-00322534 was D_S_I5WcnG8-01395-00322535-00322671 comparing a social reformer to a D_S_I5WcnG8-01396-00322672-00322815 political reformer and he says that a D_S_I5WcnG8-01397-00322816-00323103 social reformer is a much greater um you D_S_I5WcnG8-01398-00323104-00323406 know is is much more courageous and much D_S_I5WcnG8-01399-00323407-00323543 impor much more important than a D_S_I5WcnG8-01400-00323544-00323734 political reformer and by political D_S_I5WcnG8-01401-00323735-00323919 reformer he meant that you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01402-00323920-00324119 individuals and he also refers to D_S_I5WcnG8-01403-00324120-00324303 political prisoners there and he says D_S_I5WcnG8-01404-00324304-00324534 that individuals who uh fight the D_S_I5WcnG8-01405-00324535-00324663 government who challenge the government D_S_I5WcnG8-01406-00324664-00324887 are important yes but individuals that D_S_I5WcnG8-01407-00324888-00325119 fight the society are D_S_I5WcnG8-01408-00325120-00325303 are much more important and much more D_S_I5WcnG8-01409-00325304-00325495 courageous and their work is much more D_S_I5WcnG8-01410-00325496-00325782 uh important and he's he talks about how D_S_I5WcnG8-01411-00325783-00325927 society D_S_I5WcnG8-01412-00325928-00326134 and especially the society entrenched in D_S_I5WcnG8-01413-00326135-00326319 car system uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01414-00326320-00326671 has the potential of tyranny and D_S_I5WcnG8-01415-00326672-00326903 oppression to a far far far greater D_S_I5WcnG8-01416-00326904-00327199 extent than any government can have D_S_I5WcnG8-01417-00327200-00327447 right uh and he he he concludes on that D_S_I5WcnG8-01418-00327448-00327663 and he says that uh therefore it is D_S_I5WcnG8-01419-00327664-00328030 important to also look at society uh and D_S_I5WcnG8-01420-00328031-00328303 its carceral this is me uh paraphrasing D_S_I5WcnG8-01421-00328304-00328495 it but it's karsa potential as i would D_S_I5WcnG8-01422-00328496-00328623 like to say D_S_I5WcnG8-01423-00328624-00328895 when um D_S_I5WcnG8-01424-00328896-00329327 yeah a dalit youngster is D_S_I5WcnG8-01425-00329328-00329630 murdered for spotting a mustache D_S_I5WcnG8-01426-00329631-00329934 when someone is lynched for consuming D_S_I5WcnG8-01427-00329935-00330230 the food of their choice uh when someone D_S_I5WcnG8-01428-00330231-00330310 is D_S_I5WcnG8-01429-00330311-00330678 uh lynched and killed or threatened for D_S_I5WcnG8-01430-00330679-00330903 wanting to marry outside their cast fold D_S_I5WcnG8-01431-00330904-00331087 this is the cursed potential of the D_S_I5WcnG8-01432-00331088-00331230 brahminic society that we are talking D_S_I5WcnG8-01433-00331231-00331463 about this cultural potential of the D_S_I5WcnG8-01434-00331464-00331751 brahminical society continues to uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01435-00331752-00332071 criminalize individuals continues to D_S_I5WcnG8-01436-00332072-00332254 curb and erode civil liberties of D_S_I5WcnG8-01437-00332255-00332478 individuals on a day-to-day basis this D_S_I5WcnG8-01438-00332479-00332663 is the everyday everyday carcerality D_S_I5WcnG8-01439-00332664-00332799 that we need to talk about and that we D_S_I5WcnG8-01440-00332800-00333054 need to center so i would i would end on D_S_I5WcnG8-01441-00333055-00333303 this and uh thanks a lot thanks for D_S_I5WcnG8-01442-00333304-00333878 having me yeah D_S_I5WcnG8-01443-00333879-00334151 thank you thank you so much D_S_I5WcnG8-01444-00334152-00334382 disha there is just so much ground to D_S_I5WcnG8-01445-00334383-00334510 cover and i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-01446-00334511-00334647 really sorry D_S_I5WcnG8-01447-00334648-00334734 i D_S_I5WcnG8-01448-00334735-00334975 had to interrupt you because D_S_I5WcnG8-01449-00334976-00335127 i think there are just so many different D_S_I5WcnG8-01450-00335128-00335406 aspects to flesh D_S_I5WcnG8-01451-00335407-00335767 uh i think like a lot of what D_S_I5WcnG8-01452-00335768-00335903 i mean D_S_I5WcnG8-01453-00335904-00336071 the sort of food for thought the disha D_S_I5WcnG8-01454-00336072-00336247 has offered to us and i think like i D_S_I5WcnG8-01455-00336248-00336495 said at the beginning of this talk uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01456-00336496-00336639 that D_S_I5WcnG8-01457-00336640-00337015 the struggle is to be able to D_S_I5WcnG8-01458-00337016-00337191 you know talk about the question of D_S_I5WcnG8-01459-00337192-00337406 politicization and the politicization of D_S_I5WcnG8-01460-00337407-00337639 a certain section of people and the way D_S_I5WcnG8-01461-00337640-00337815 in which the so-called mainstream D_S_I5WcnG8-01462-00337816-00338047 discourse has managed to individualize D_S_I5WcnG8-01463-00338048-00338287 that question right and i think disha in D_S_I5WcnG8-01464-00338288-00338558 her talk so beautifully talks about how D_S_I5WcnG8-01465-00338559-00338854 there are communities and certain ways D_S_I5WcnG8-01466-00338855-00339239 of living uh particularly those of D_S_I5WcnG8-01467-00339240-00339375 you know those who belong to the D_S_I5WcnG8-01468-00339376-00339510 tadibasi D_S_I5WcnG8-01469-00339511-00339663 and remove the communities that have D_S_I5WcnG8-01470-00339664-00339847 been in so many ways D_S_I5WcnG8-01471-00339848-00340119 are synonymous with being D_S_I5WcnG8-01472-00340120-00340375 uh dissenting right or or with D_S_I5WcnG8-01473-00340376-00340567 challenging the status quo in so many D_S_I5WcnG8-01474-00340568-00340663 ways D_S_I5WcnG8-01475-00340664-00340806 and i think i think D_S_I5WcnG8-01476-00340807-00341006 from that i have D_S_I5WcnG8-01477-00341007-00341278 one or two questions to ask you dushan D_S_I5WcnG8-01478-00341279-00341471 your thoughts on them D_S_I5WcnG8-01479-00341472-00341575 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01480-00341576-00341810 i mean i know you said that there is an D_S_I5WcnG8-01481-00341811-00341991 invisibilization D_S_I5WcnG8-01482-00341992-00342110 of D_S_I5WcnG8-01483-00342111-00342215 this D_S_I5WcnG8-01484-00342216-00342430 lived experience and these struggles of D_S_I5WcnG8-01485-00342431-00342615 so many communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01486-00342616-00342806 uh by sovereign activists and therefore D_S_I5WcnG8-01487-00342807-00342967 there's that carving out of the category D_S_I5WcnG8-01488-00342968-00343127 of political prisoners and to say that D_S_I5WcnG8-01489-00343128-00343295 there are certain sexual section of D_S_I5WcnG8-01490-00343296-00343487 people whose criminalization and D_S_I5WcnG8-01491-00343488-00343671 subsequent incarceration is political D_S_I5WcnG8-01492-00343672-00343782 right D_S_I5WcnG8-01493-00343783-00343854 but D_S_I5WcnG8-01494-00343855-00344095 a lot of the conversations around D_S_I5WcnG8-01495-00344096-00344303 criminalization or talking about over D_S_I5WcnG8-01496-00344304-00344543 criminalization or making a case for D_S_I5WcnG8-01497-00344544-00344782 disproportionate criminalization there D_S_I5WcnG8-01498-00344783-00344975 is one standard data set that everybody D_S_I5WcnG8-01499-00344976-00345158 uses which is the national crime records D_S_I5WcnG8-01500-00345159-00345358 bureau data set which is to say you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01501-00345359-00345558 it's almost become like this D_S_I5WcnG8-01502-00345559-00345775 it's it's a mandatory requirement to say D_S_I5WcnG8-01503-00345776-00345999 in any talk about the criminal justice D_S_I5WcnG8-01504-00346000-00346278 uh system where everybody says oh scst D_S_I5WcnG8-01505-00346279-00346527 obcs are overrepresented in the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-01506-00346528-00346758 justice system right so D_S_I5WcnG8-01507-00346759-00347015 from that data point of view that D_S_I5WcnG8-01508-00347016-00347206 criminalization and the targeting of D_S_I5WcnG8-01509-00347207-00347282 those D_S_I5WcnG8-01510-00347283-00347687 communities is not lost right i mean D_S_I5WcnG8-01511-00347688-00347919 whether it's the movement on D_S_I5WcnG8-01512-00347920-00348095 uh sexual violence in this country you D_S_I5WcnG8-01513-00348096-00348206 know whether D_S_I5WcnG8-01514-00348207-00348327 pushing for D_S_I5WcnG8-01515-00348328-00348487 more stringent criminal laws right even D_S_I5WcnG8-01516-00348488-00348654 if you were to look at the other side of D_S_I5WcnG8-01517-00348655-00348815 investing in the criminal justice system D_S_I5WcnG8-01518-00348816-00348975 looking for most indian criminal laws we D_S_I5WcnG8-01519-00348976-00349078 see that D_S_I5WcnG8-01520-00349079-00349271 uh the custodial rape struggle is D_S_I5WcnG8-01521-00349272-00349558 informed by mathura the law on D_S_I5WcnG8-01522-00349559-00349743 sexual harassment at the workplace came D_S_I5WcnG8-01523-00349744-00349943 as a result of her video the risk D_S_I5WcnG8-01524-00349944-00350406 guidelines in dk basu D_S_I5WcnG8-01525-00350407-00350647 so i want to understand what is it that D_S_I5WcnG8-01526-00350648-00350767 allows for D_S_I5WcnG8-01527-00350768-00350951 the depths of certain people and all of D_S_I5WcnG8-01528-00350952-00351230 them belonging to bhujan communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01529-00351231-00351351 allows for D_S_I5WcnG8-01530-00351352-00351606 movements to be built around these D_S_I5WcnG8-01531-00351607-00351910 issues but strangely in the sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-01532-00351911-00352143 legal framing of the issues or the D_S_I5WcnG8-01533-00352144-00352406 political framing of these issues uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01534-00352407-00352671 this entire narrative or D_S_I5WcnG8-01535-00352672-00352743 like D_S_I5WcnG8-01536-00352744-00352951 the lives of those around whose this D_S_I5WcnG8-01537-00352952-00353199 movement quote unquote movement is built D_S_I5WcnG8-01538-00353200-00353430 like that that particular narrative is D_S_I5WcnG8-01539-00353431-00353615 lost so i want like i would like to hear D_S_I5WcnG8-01540-00353616-00353806 your thoughts in terms of like the D_S_I5WcnG8-01541-00353807-00354182 politics behind that and if you could D_S_I5WcnG8-01542-00354183-00354423 share your thoughts on that be useful D_S_I5WcnG8-01543-00354424-00354871 yeah i mean nikita you've answered it D_S_I5WcnG8-01544-00354872-00355078 i think in the question i think because D_S_I5WcnG8-01545-00355079-00355343 the fact that uh we are always data D_S_I5WcnG8-01546-00355344-00355943 points you know we are always uh uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01547-00355944-00356223 their struggles their resistance D_S_I5WcnG8-01548-00356224-00356478 um uh their D_S_I5WcnG8-01549-00356479-00356830 lost lives uh become data for for these D_S_I5WcnG8-01550-00356831-00357143 kind of uh quote unquote so-called D_S_I5WcnG8-01551-00357144-00357399 reforms legal reforms right uh or D_S_I5WcnG8-01552-00357400-00357734 criminal justice reforms um and they D_S_I5WcnG8-01553-00357735-00357951 never tend to benefit these communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01554-00357952-00358143 we saw that and we spoke about that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01555-00358144-00358295 you know as far as the bashar guidelines D_S_I5WcnG8-01556-00358296-00358606 is concerned and you also see uh this um D_S_I5WcnG8-01557-00358607-00358910 you know with the the sort of uh reforms D_S_I5WcnG8-01558-00358911-00359047 that are coming up or the committees D_S_I5WcnG8-01559-00359048-00359263 that are being set for some kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01560-00359264-00359582 reform in the criminal law the recent uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01561-00359583-00359727 sort of the the criminal reforms D_S_I5WcnG8-01562-00359728-00359934 committee that was set up right and that D_S_I5WcnG8-01563-00359935-00360119 was not a single dalit adivasi bahujan D_S_I5WcnG8-01564-00360120-00360271 person on that committee it was an all D_S_I5WcnG8-01565-00360272-00360487 savannah community in all male community D_S_I5WcnG8-01566-00360488-00360758 uh uh sorry uh an all-male member D_S_I5WcnG8-01567-00360759-00361071 committee right um so so D_S_I5WcnG8-01568-00361072-00361351 the fact that you become data points for D_S_I5WcnG8-01569-00361352-00361503 and and this kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01570-00361504-00361671 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01571-00361672-00361887 you know data like you said you know the D_S_I5WcnG8-01572-00361888-00362095 ncrb data or the over criminalization or D_S_I5WcnG8-01573-00362096-00362239 the disproportionate criminalization D_S_I5WcnG8-01574-00362240-00362575 data is used and it doesn't benefit uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01575-00362576-00362830 these communities in any way in fact D_S_I5WcnG8-01576-00362831-00363047 their invisibilization is at every level D_S_I5WcnG8-01577-00363048-00363247 it's at the level of policy it's at the D_S_I5WcnG8-01578-00363248-00363582 level of uh law making um and and they D_S_I5WcnG8-01579-00363583-00363910 are not centered uh in any of uh uh this D_S_I5WcnG8-01580-00363911-00364127 so i i think that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01581-00364128-00364519 that that larger uh sort of politics of D_S_I5WcnG8-01582-00364520-00364710 uh the way this is happening you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01583-00364711-00365006 the politics of uh policy framing or D_S_I5WcnG8-01584-00365007-00365199 framing of laws D_S_I5WcnG8-01585-00365200-00365582 uh is very evident uh in terms of who it D_S_I5WcnG8-01586-00365583-00365910 benefits and on whose backs it is built D_S_I5WcnG8-01587-00365911-00366271 right D_S_I5WcnG8-01588-00366272-00366439 yeah i i hope i D_S_I5WcnG8-01589-00366440-00366654 try to answer no no you def D_S_I5WcnG8-01590-00366655-00366895 definitely did i mean before we move to D_S_I5WcnG8-01591-00366896-00367103 the audience questions and there are D_S_I5WcnG8-01592-00367104-00367239 quite a few here D_S_I5WcnG8-01593-00367240-00367510 uh i just have one quick question also D_S_I5WcnG8-01594-00367511-00367847 to ask you and i mean you closed D_S_I5WcnG8-01595-00367848-00368087 nikita can i just point it out D_S_I5WcnG8-01596-00368088-00368287 uh yeah let me just point out and if we D_S_I5WcnG8-01597-00368288-00368534 have time uh and we don't have enough D_S_I5WcnG8-01598-00368535-00368775 questions if uh if that's the case then D_S_I5WcnG8-01599-00368776-00368910 i because you mentioned buddha and D_S_I5WcnG8-01600-00368911-00369182 saber's case and how it sort of led to D_S_I5WcnG8-01601-00369183-00369375 yeah if you could talk a bit more about D_S_I5WcnG8-01602-00369376-00370263 it D_S_I5WcnG8-01603-00370264-00370430 which is which is a criminalized tribal D_S_I5WcnG8-01604-00370431-00370687 community from west bengal D_S_I5WcnG8-01605-00370688-00370951 and like every criminal tribes community D_S_I5WcnG8-01606-00370952-00371158 most of us have seen the movie jai beam D_S_I5WcnG8-01607-00371159-00371399 right and the depiction of the uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-01608-00371400-00371719 person in in that movie is that again of D_S_I5WcnG8-01609-00371720-00371943 a d notified tribal individual though it D_S_I5WcnG8-01610-00371944-00372102 has been completely erased the history D_S_I5WcnG8-01611-00372103-00372254 of criminal tribes act the history of D_S_I5WcnG8-01612-00372255-00372591 habitual uh offenders act uh and and the D_S_I5WcnG8-01613-00372592-00372751 criminal stigma that the community faces D_S_I5WcnG8-01614-00372752-00372871 has been completely erased from the D_S_I5WcnG8-01615-00372872-00373151 movie um so so D_S_I5WcnG8-01616-00373152-00373334 one could understand that the depiction D_S_I5WcnG8-01617-00373335-00373510 is that of the denotified tribe and now D_S_I5WcnG8-01618-00373511-00373582 you D_S_I5WcnG8-01619-00373583-00373782 i'm i i will tell you about the buddha D_S_I5WcnG8-01620-00373783-00374054 sabha case so sabha came from this D_S_I5WcnG8-01621-00374055-00374215 similar you know d notified tribal D_S_I5WcnG8-01622-00374216-00374391 community a community that was D_S_I5WcnG8-01623-00374392-00374791 criminalized um and he was just uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01624-00374792-00374982 you know going uh to some place D_S_I5WcnG8-01625-00374983-00375087 traveling D_S_I5WcnG8-01626-00375088-00375254 along with his wife when he was picked D_S_I5WcnG8-01627-00375255-00375454 by the police he was at a pawn shop and D_S_I5WcnG8-01628-00375455-00375671 his wife was there with him and he was D_S_I5WcnG8-01629-00375672-00375991 picked from pawn shop from by the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01630-00375992-00376247 um he was arrested the day he was D_S_I5WcnG8-01631-00376248-00376495 arrested that today the police has not D_S_I5WcnG8-01632-00376496-00376775 did not record uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01633-00376776-00376958 you know uh that that he was arrested D_S_I5WcnG8-01634-00376959-00377175 that day the the record shows that the D_S_I5WcnG8-01635-00377176-00377375 police diary shows that the arrest was D_S_I5WcnG8-01636-00377376-00377623 recorded on the next day right so he was D_S_I5WcnG8-01637-00377624-00377823 arrested a day prior but that the record D_S_I5WcnG8-01638-00377824-00378175 did not show that in a day's time uh it D_S_I5WcnG8-01639-00378176-00378375 was the wise claim and her allegation D_S_I5WcnG8-01640-00378376-00378695 that he was not given water for 24 hours D_S_I5WcnG8-01641-00378696-00378902 he was beaten brutally beaten by the D_S_I5WcnG8-01642-00378903-00379015 police D_S_I5WcnG8-01643-00379016-00379358 in in custody um and you know this kind D_S_I5WcnG8-01644-00379359-00379430 of D_S_I5WcnG8-01645-00379431-00379719 sort of arrests uh and picking off D_S_I5WcnG8-01646-00379720-00379919 denotified tribes individuals in any D_S_I5WcnG8-01647-00379920-00380119 kind of unnamed sort of offenses because D_S_I5WcnG8-01648-00380120-00380358 they are easy targets uh they all D_S_I5WcnG8-01649-00380359-00380606 obviously have that kind of uh you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01650-00380607-00380791 history of that criminal stigma that D_S_I5WcnG8-01651-00380792-00380878 stays D_S_I5WcnG8-01652-00380879-00381167 uh and and the police targeting happens D_S_I5WcnG8-01653-00381168-00381487 now in buddhist case uh a few days after D_S_I5WcnG8-01654-00381488-00381775 that the wife kept uh you know shouting D_S_I5WcnG8-01655-00381776-00381919 and she kept D_S_I5WcnG8-01656-00381920-00382134 saying that you know he needs to be D_S_I5WcnG8-01657-00382135-00382358 saved because the police is brutally D_S_I5WcnG8-01658-00382359-00382663 brutally beating him in police custody D_S_I5WcnG8-01659-00382664-00382871 a few days three days later D_S_I5WcnG8-01660-00382872-00383182 he uh is found uh hanging in police D_S_I5WcnG8-01661-00383183-00383375 custody by a gumcha D_S_I5WcnG8-01662-00383376-00383543 um and the police declares that it is D_S_I5WcnG8-01663-00383544-00383775 suicide and the wife says that there is D_S_I5WcnG8-01664-00383776-00383967 some kind of foul play in this because i D_S_I5WcnG8-01665-00383968-00384151 have been visiting trying to visit my D_S_I5WcnG8-01666-00384152-00384358 husband and i have been seeing that he D_S_I5WcnG8-01667-00384359-00384695 has been uh you know treated um D_S_I5WcnG8-01668-00384696-00384878 atrociously by the by the police and he D_S_I5WcnG8-01669-00384879-00385151 has uh suffered some third degree kind D_S_I5WcnG8-01670-00385152-00385502 of uh treatment in police custody D_S_I5WcnG8-01671-00385503-00385671 and and this is like a classic case D_S_I5WcnG8-01672-00385672-00385839 where you will often find the notified D_S_I5WcnG8-01673-00385840-00386047 tribes individuals you know when they D_S_I5WcnG8-01674-00386048-00386215 die in police custody the police tries D_S_I5WcnG8-01675-00386216-00386430 to show it as a suicide and it is often D_S_I5WcnG8-01676-00386431-00386630 they are hanging on some like uh you D_S_I5WcnG8-01677-00386631-00386967 know like some low uh level uh object D_S_I5WcnG8-01678-00386968-00387278 and uh by a gum cha right and the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01679-00387279-00387463 it's a very classic manner in which an D_S_I5WcnG8-01680-00387464-00387734 sop sort of of sorts where the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01681-00387735-00388071 shows that it is suicide uh and the wife D_S_I5WcnG8-01682-00388072-00388367 then went to the high court and D_S_I5WcnG8-01683-00388368-00388591 she said that uh you know this this is D_S_I5WcnG8-01684-00388592-00388823 definitely a custodial murder by the D_S_I5WcnG8-01685-00388824-00389143 police this is not suicide and the nhrc D_S_I5WcnG8-01686-00389144-00389415 then intervened D_S_I5WcnG8-01687-00389416-00389599 body which was buried so coming from D_S_I5WcnG8-01688-00389600-00389734 adivasi community coming from the D_S_I5WcnG8-01689-00389735-00389878 notified tribal community his body was D_S_I5WcnG8-01690-00389879-00390247 buried and it was a postmortem D_S_I5WcnG8-01691-00390248-00390543 or this thing was uh conducted later you D_S_I5WcnG8-01692-00390544-00390782 know after his body was buried and it D_S_I5WcnG8-01693-00390783-00390934 was seen that there were multiple D_S_I5WcnG8-01694-00390935-00391102 hundreds of fractures D_S_I5WcnG8-01695-00391103-00391406 in the body right so it it just couldn't D_S_I5WcnG8-01696-00391407-00391719 have been uh suicide so he was beaten to D_S_I5WcnG8-01697-00391720-00391806 death D_S_I5WcnG8-01698-00391807-00392095 um and this actually this case led to a D_S_I5WcnG8-01699-00392096-00392447 lot of reform um in the law on arrests D_S_I5WcnG8-01700-00392448-00392639 um and D_S_I5WcnG8-01701-00392640-00392839 you know the the anish kumar guidelines D_S_I5WcnG8-01702-00392840-00392991 if there are a few law students here you D_S_I5WcnG8-01703-00392992-00393223 would know that somewhere uh has been D_S_I5WcnG8-01704-00393224-00393327 inspired D_S_I5WcnG8-01705-00393328-00393543 by by the fact that this is the kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-01706-00393544-00393751 treatment that individuals from the D_S_I5WcnG8-01707-00393752-00394054 notified tribes communities face um you D_S_I5WcnG8-01708-00394055-00394382 know in police custody but again uh you D_S_I5WcnG8-01709-00394383-00394558 see that all of this reform when it was D_S_I5WcnG8-01710-00394559-00394775 happening it was informed by D_S_I5WcnG8-01711-00394776-00395039 uh the plight and the death um and the D_S_I5WcnG8-01712-00395040-00395206 torture that a denotified tribal D_S_I5WcnG8-01713-00395207-00395430 individual faced but the notified tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-01714-00395431-00395671 are completely erased uh somewhere from D_S_I5WcnG8-01715-00395672-00395902 this discourse there is no discussion of D_S_I5WcnG8-01716-00395903-00396182 um around these communities uh when it D_S_I5WcnG8-01717-00396183-00396502 comes to custodial torture yeah D_S_I5WcnG8-01718-00396503-00396630 i D_S_I5WcnG8-01719-00396631-00396847 want to add here which is that D_S_I5WcnG8-01720-00396848-00397047 this whole idea of the police custody D_S_I5WcnG8-01721-00397048-00397319 and policing right like the custody D_S_I5WcnG8-01722-00397320-00397591 and the site of a police station D_S_I5WcnG8-01723-00397592-00397751 both as a D_S_I5WcnG8-01724-00397752-00397927 special side D_S_I5WcnG8-01725-00397928-00398239 as a physical space and an institution D_S_I5WcnG8-01726-00398240-00398495 is one that is marked with caste and D_S_I5WcnG8-01727-00398496-00398782 brahminical violence right so the fact D_S_I5WcnG8-01728-00398783-00399063 that someone like guden sabha or scores D_S_I5WcnG8-01729-00399064-00399175 of people D_S_I5WcnG8-01730-00399176-00399327 from D_S_I5WcnG8-01731-00399328-00399599 you know denotified communities or other D_S_I5WcnG8-01732-00399600-00399839 virgin communities are at the receiving D_S_I5WcnG8-01733-00399840-00400119 end of violence in this space or at the D_S_I5WcnG8-01734-00400120-00400334 receiving end of targeting within the D_S_I5WcnG8-01735-00400335-00400534 institution of policing D_S_I5WcnG8-01736-00400535-00400727 is by no means an aberration right D_S_I5WcnG8-01737-00400728-00400943 because if we go back to the history of D_S_I5WcnG8-01738-00400944-00401206 the policing the legacy of policing D_S_I5WcnG8-01739-00401207-00401495 like in the 1840s the sort of origin D_S_I5WcnG8-01740-00401496-00401767 story of the police is to say that you D_S_I5WcnG8-01741-00401768-00401943 know you have these people who are D_S_I5WcnG8-01742-00401944-00402206 criminals by birth and you need a force D_S_I5WcnG8-01743-00402207-00402502 to be able to surveil control and keep D_S_I5WcnG8-01744-00402503-00402719 an eye on them and to maintain order D_S_I5WcnG8-01745-00402720-00403006 right so there is so much D_S_I5WcnG8-01746-00403007-00403182 even now you know when there are people D_S_I5WcnG8-01747-00403183-00403327 particularly D_S_I5WcnG8-01748-00403328-00403495 those who identify themselves of D_S_I5WcnG8-01749-00403496-00403710 liberals of some kind who are making a D_S_I5WcnG8-01750-00403711-00403910 case for saying oh you know we need D_S_I5WcnG8-01751-00403911-00404110 stronger policing and we need stronger D_S_I5WcnG8-01752-00404111-00404295 law and order it's important to D_S_I5WcnG8-01753-00404296-00404543 deconstruct what is that law and order D_S_I5WcnG8-01754-00404544-00404719 and what is that law and order function D_S_I5WcnG8-01755-00404720-00404878 that we are talking about right because D_S_I5WcnG8-01756-00404879-00405054 if you go back to the origin story of D_S_I5WcnG8-01757-00405055-00405271 the police it says that the order D_S_I5WcnG8-01758-00405272-00405430 function of the police and the law and D_S_I5WcnG8-01759-00405431-00405567 order function of the police is actually D_S_I5WcnG8-01760-00405568-00405782 the social order function which is the D_S_I5WcnG8-01761-00405783-00406023 social order function of caste right D_S_I5WcnG8-01762-00406024-00406175 so D_S_I5WcnG8-01763-00406176-00406399 the way the kind of treatment that is D_S_I5WcnG8-01764-00406400-00406567 meted out to D_S_I5WcnG8-01765-00406568-00406671 people D_S_I5WcnG8-01766-00406672-00406775 from D_S_I5WcnG8-01767-00406776-00406982 belgian communities within the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01768-00406983-00407247 station as a side and within the D_S_I5WcnG8-01769-00407248-00407454 institution of policing D_S_I5WcnG8-01770-00407455-00407663 is by no means an aberration because it D_S_I5WcnG8-01771-00407664-00407887 is what it was designed to do like that D_S_I5WcnG8-01772-00407888-00408167 is why the institution was created right D_S_I5WcnG8-01773-00408168-00408343 and the fact that D_S_I5WcnG8-01774-00408344-00408615 our quest for or these movements that we D_S_I5WcnG8-01775-00408616-00408854 built around custodial violence whether D_S_I5WcnG8-01776-00408855-00409054 it was drawing from buddha's case or D_S_I5WcnG8-01777-00409055-00409223 whether it was drawing from mathura's D_S_I5WcnG8-01778-00409224-00409567 case the fact that it fails to D_S_I5WcnG8-01779-00409568-00409774 make that structural case or you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01780-00409775-00409959 make that structural critique of D_S_I5WcnG8-01781-00409960-00410126 policing D_S_I5WcnG8-01782-00410127-00410295 then allows for D_S_I5WcnG8-01783-00410296-00410487 you know the state and the institution D_S_I5WcnG8-01784-00410488-00410614 of policing D_S_I5WcnG8-01785-00410615-00410807 to make a case for saying oh this is a D_S_I5WcnG8-01786-00410808-00411039 case of a few bad apples right who D_S_I5WcnG8-01787-00411039-00411255 killed someone like guden's happen or it D_S_I5WcnG8-01788-00411256-00411559 is a case of like a few police people D_S_I5WcnG8-01789-00411560-00411814 police personnel who abuse their powers D_S_I5WcnG8-01790-00411815-00412047 but it's not an abuse of powers D_S_I5WcnG8-01791-00412047-00412351 it is actually our misunderstanding of D_S_I5WcnG8-01792-00412352-00412614 what we think the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01793-00412615-00412759 what is the function that the police D_S_I5WcnG8-01794-00412760-00412926 serves and what the police has actually D_S_I5WcnG8-01795-00412927-00413143 been created to do right so therefore D_S_I5WcnG8-01796-00413143-00413374 this whole quest for reform and that D_S_I5WcnG8-01797-00413375-00413607 path for reform that we've been on since D_S_I5WcnG8-01798-00413608-00413687 time D_S_I5WcnG8-01799-00413688-00413822 immemorial D_S_I5WcnG8-01800-00413823-00413991 that is why it hasn't yielded any D_S_I5WcnG8-01801-00413992-00414230 results because this institution is D_S_I5WcnG8-01802-00414231-00414470 doing exactly what it was designed to do D_S_I5WcnG8-01803-00414471-00414639 so actually it's a very successful D_S_I5WcnG8-01804-00414639-00414878 institution it's a very efficiently and D_S_I5WcnG8-01805-00414879-00415103 well-functioning institution one of the D_S_I5WcnG8-01806-00415104-00415263 most well functioning institutions in D_S_I5WcnG8-01807-00415264-00415503 the country but because there is an D_S_I5WcnG8-01808-00415504-00415751 expectation mismatch which is why we D_S_I5WcnG8-01809-00415752-00416063 think it's a broken system right so i D_S_I5WcnG8-01810-00416064-00416310 think that that sort of analysis is D_S_I5WcnG8-01811-00416312-00416543 something that is very very crucial D_S_I5WcnG8-01812-00416543-00416639 to D_S_I5WcnG8-01813-00416639-00416863 sort of draw out and i mean i'm going to D_S_I5WcnG8-01814-00416864-00417159 now quickly disha take questions that we D_S_I5WcnG8-01815-00417160-00417282 have D_S_I5WcnG8-01816-00417283-00417630 uh yeah one second D_S_I5WcnG8-01817-00417631-00417991 yeah the first question is if you could D_S_I5WcnG8-01818-00417992-00418287 talk more about the about pre-colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-01819-00418288-00418526 criminalization and if there are sources D_S_I5WcnG8-01820-00418527-00418695 apart D_S_I5WcnG8-01821-00418696-00418799 that from the manufacture D_S_I5WcnG8-01822-00418800-00419103 on to understand this better D_S_I5WcnG8-01823-00419104-00419222 um D_S_I5WcnG8-01824-00419223-00419359 i think D_S_I5WcnG8-01825-00419360-00419559 to be very honest um D_S_I5WcnG8-01826-00419560-00419791 it has been quite a task D_S_I5WcnG8-01827-00419792-00419983 and and i have done D_S_I5WcnG8-01828-00419984-00420159 my literature review and i haven't come D_S_I5WcnG8-01829-00420160-00420463 across many sources and i had to rely on D_S_I5WcnG8-01830-00420464-00420575 bula's D_S_I5WcnG8-01831-00420576-00420743 laws of manu for D_S_I5WcnG8-01832-00420743-00420959 uh you know to understand whether these D_S_I5WcnG8-01833-00420960-00421191 communities are just colonial sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-01834-00421192-00421343 you know this kind of criminalization of D_S_I5WcnG8-01835-00421343-00421518 communities is only a colonial phenomena D_S_I5WcnG8-01836-00421519-00421839 or it existed in the manuspriti um but D_S_I5WcnG8-01837-00421839-00422055 uh to be very honest at this point this D_S_I5WcnG8-01838-00422056-00422247 is the only source that i have the other D_S_I5WcnG8-01839-00422247-00422543 source that uh i think is could could D_S_I5WcnG8-01840-00422543-00422766 you know we could be able to link uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01841-00422767-00423087 these things a bit would be um D_S_I5WcnG8-01842-00423088-00423166 the D_S_I5WcnG8-01843-00423167-00423383 uh you know ambedkar's um the D_S_I5WcnG8-01844-00423384-00423622 untouchables right where he talks about D_S_I5WcnG8-01845-00423623-00423910 the 1910 census D_S_I5WcnG8-01846-00423912-00424118 and you will see that the these these D_S_I5WcnG8-01847-00424119-00424527 communities uh that have been um called D_S_I5WcnG8-01848-00424528-00424639 as or referred to as criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-01849-00424639-00424839 communities in manufacturing like i said D_S_I5WcnG8-01850-00424839-00424966 the wandering communities the D_S_I5WcnG8-01851-00424967-00425159 communities residing in forests dwelling D_S_I5WcnG8-01852-00425160-00425422 on uh you know outside of the villages D_S_I5WcnG8-01853-00425423-00425670 uh wearing a certain kind of uh you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01854-00425671-00425983 or engaging in uh tannery or or leather D_S_I5WcnG8-01855-00425984-00426263 work that kind of occupation and i said D_S_I5WcnG8-01856-00426264-00426439 that these are you if you look at them D_S_I5WcnG8-01857-00426439-00426591 they are all overnight communities in D_S_I5WcnG8-01858-00426592-00426751 fact the manufacture refers to them as D_S_I5WcnG8-01859-00426752-00427055 non-aryans or excluded aryan communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01860-00427056-00427327 you will you will be able to link it to D_S_I5WcnG8-01861-00427328-00427727 uh the 1910 um census report and the D_S_I5WcnG8-01862-00427728-00427918 1910 census report is interesting and D_S_I5WcnG8-01863-00427919-00428079 its column on religion is very D_S_I5WcnG8-01864-00428080-00428270 interesting and i want to con you know D_S_I5WcnG8-01865-00428271-00428495 sort of say that uh how some of these D_S_I5WcnG8-01866-00428496-00428775 communities are non-hindu communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01867-00428776-00429022 right um they are communities like i D_S_I5WcnG8-01868-00429023-00429199 said they are they are communities that D_S_I5WcnG8-01869-00429200-00429375 dissented the brahmanic chaturvana D_S_I5WcnG8-01870-00429376-00429559 system but they are also referred to as D_S_I5WcnG8-01871-00429560-00429791 non-hindu communities in the 1910 census D_S_I5WcnG8-01872-00429792-00430055 of the uh and and and D_S_I5WcnG8-01873-00430056-00430422 the 1910 census has a column on religion D_S_I5WcnG8-01874-00430423-00430583 and this column for the first time D_S_I5WcnG8-01875-00430584-00430943 included the category of hindus D_S_I5WcnG8-01876-00430943-00431279 uh christians muslims and also uh for D_S_I5WcnG8-01877-00431280-00431535 the first time included the category of D_S_I5WcnG8-01878-00431535-00431663 non-hindus D_S_I5WcnG8-01879-00431664-00431910 right and non-hindus who are not muslims D_S_I5WcnG8-01880-00431912-00432070 or christians now who are these D_S_I5WcnG8-01881-00432071-00432231 non-hindus and it's interesting to see D_S_I5WcnG8-01882-00432232-00432470 the criteria that there is this this ten D_S_I5WcnG8-01883-00432471-00432887 point criteria uh for these so-called D_S_I5WcnG8-01884-00432888-00433199 non-hindus who that are that includes D_S_I5WcnG8-01885-00433200-00433479 certain castes and tribes right and you D_S_I5WcnG8-01886-00433480-00433639 will see that when you read the criteria D_S_I5WcnG8-01887-00433639-00433847 that it is referring to the same uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01888-00433847-00433999 communities that one would see in the D_S_I5WcnG8-01889-00434000-00434263 manuscript right so the first D_S_I5WcnG8-01890-00434264-00434510 criteria of these non-hindus who are not D_S_I5WcnG8-01891-00434512-00434727 christians and muslims D_S_I5WcnG8-01892-00434728-00434887 is that they deny the supremacy of D_S_I5WcnG8-01893-00434888-00435151 brahmins one two they did not they do D_S_I5WcnG8-01894-00435152-00435327 not receive the mantra from a brahman or D_S_I5WcnG8-01895-00435328-00435543 other recognized hindu guru three they D_S_I5WcnG8-01896-00435543-00435807 deny the authority of vedas four they do D_S_I5WcnG8-01897-00435808-00436063 not worship the hindu gods five they are D_S_I5WcnG8-01898-00436064-00436239 they are served by good brahmans as D_S_I5WcnG8-01899-00436239-00436383 family priests D_S_I5WcnG8-01900-00436384-00436663 six they uh have no brahman priests at D_S_I5WcnG8-01901-00436664-00436735 all D_S_I5WcnG8-01902-00436735-00436943 eight um D_S_I5WcnG8-01903-00436943-00437110 seven sorry they are they are denied D_S_I5WcnG8-01904-00437112-00437351 access to the interior of hindu temples D_S_I5WcnG8-01905-00437352-00437735 uh it cause pollution a by touch or b D_S_I5WcnG8-01906-00437735-00437966 with uh a certain distance D_S_I5WcnG8-01907-00437967-00438191 uh nine they bury their dead D_S_I5WcnG8-01908-00438192-00438447 ten they eat beef and do not uh do no D_S_I5WcnG8-01909-00438447-00438735 reverence to the cow right uh now you D_S_I5WcnG8-01910-00438735-00438879 look at all these you know you look at D_S_I5WcnG8-01911-00438880-00439070 these non-hindu communities and i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-01912-00439071-00439166 saying that they are dissenting D_S_I5WcnG8-01913-00439167-00439455 communities i'm i am impressing that D_S_I5WcnG8-01914-00439456-00439679 these are your varna communities these D_S_I5WcnG8-01915-00439680-00439975 are dalits adivasi's uh nomadic and D_S_I5WcnG8-01916-00439976-00440175 wandering communities who were later D_S_I5WcnG8-01917-00440176-00440439 criminalized right and and these D_S_I5WcnG8-01918-00440439-00440631 communities therefore constitute and one D_S_I5WcnG8-01919-00440632-00441095 can then therefore link it to the D_S_I5WcnG8-01920-00441096-00441343 criminal tribes manufact right uh that D_S_I5WcnG8-01921-00441343-00441447 that criminalized some of these D_S_I5WcnG8-01922-00441447-00441607 communities and i want to take this D_S_I5WcnG8-01923-00441608-00441999 opportunity to also um D_S_I5WcnG8-01924-00442000-00442255 sort of uh point out that there are so D_S_I5WcnG8-01925-00442256-00442510 many untouchable communities untouchable D_S_I5WcnG8-01926-00442512-00442718 uh communities or even lower castes that D_S_I5WcnG8-01927-00442719-00442910 have been and and this this notion that D_S_I5WcnG8-01928-00442912-00443118 we have that it is just uh tribes that D_S_I5WcnG8-01929-00443119-00443310 have been criminalized by the colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-01930-00443312-00443551 era laws i want to debunk that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01931-00443552-00443703 because there is the dushad community D_S_I5WcnG8-01932-00443704-00444110 from um bihar right which was uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01933-00444112-00444279 uh registered as a criminal tribe under D_S_I5WcnG8-01934-00444280-00444447 the criminal tribes act there is the D_S_I5WcnG8-01935-00444447-00444639 chamar community from up which was D_S_I5WcnG8-01936-00444639-00444887 registered as a criminal tribe under the D_S_I5WcnG8-01937-00444888-00445110 criminal tribes act in fact the term D_S_I5WcnG8-01938-00445112-00445366 tori tamari you know that that actually D_S_I5WcnG8-01939-00445367-00445631 comes from uh the criminalization of the D_S_I5WcnG8-01940-00445632-00445783 jamar community in uk and there is a D_S_I5WcnG8-01941-00445784-00446055 brilliant uh article and i probably want D_S_I5WcnG8-01942-00446056-00446255 to share that article which sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-01943-00446256-00446351 links D_S_I5WcnG8-01944-00446352-00446622 uh the occupation of leather tanning and D_S_I5WcnG8-01945-00446623-00446895 the stereotyping that for leather D_S_I5WcnG8-01946-00446896-00447135 tanning the chamar community is actually D_S_I5WcnG8-01947-00447135-00447239 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01948-00447239-00447479 indulging into cattle poisoning right D_S_I5WcnG8-01949-00447480-00447679 and therefore they were criminalized so D_S_I5WcnG8-01950-00447680-00447822 there's a beautiful article that links D_S_I5WcnG8-01951-00447823-00448118 it uh to to this kind of stereotype in D_S_I5WcnG8-01952-00448119-00448310 maharashtra in fact there is a community D_S_I5WcnG8-01953-00448312-00448543 called the martin community which is one D_S_I5WcnG8-01954-00448543-00448759 of the four five major uh scheduled D_S_I5WcnG8-01955-00448760-00448991 castes in maharashtra uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01956-00448992-00449247 they are a nomadic community D_S_I5WcnG8-01957-00449247-00449543 who are categorized as sc's and they D_S_I5WcnG8-01958-00449543-00449735 were criminalized under the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-01959-00449735-00450031 tribes act they were a criminal tribe uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01960-00450032-00450151 right uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01961-00450152-00450343 the kuruwan community in fact in tamil D_S_I5WcnG8-01962-00450343-00450614 nadu is again uh categorized as D_S_I5WcnG8-01963-00450615-00450799 scheduled caste but they are again a D_S_I5WcnG8-01964-00450800-00451103 nomadic community uh with a history of D_S_I5WcnG8-01965-00451104-00451303 criminalization by the via the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-01966-00451304-00451535 tribes act so it you will see that these D_S_I5WcnG8-01967-00451535-00451783 communities uh that have been D_S_I5WcnG8-01968-00451784-00452022 criminalized by the criminal tribes act D_S_I5WcnG8-01969-00452023-00452191 and various notifications that the D_S_I5WcnG8-01970-00452192-00452359 government governors have issued right D_S_I5WcnG8-01971-00452360-00452575 from time to time nikita the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-01972-00452576-00452839 tribes act it was not did not register D_S_I5WcnG8-01973-00452839-00453063 these communities at one point in time D_S_I5WcnG8-01974-00453064-00453207 the governor was supposed to issue D_S_I5WcnG8-01975-00453208-00453414 notifications and orders from time to D_S_I5WcnG8-01976-00453415-00453566 time so every time they felt that there D_S_I5WcnG8-01977-00453567-00453727 was some threat from some caste and some D_S_I5WcnG8-01978-00453728-00453903 community which is mostly these D_S_I5WcnG8-01979-00453904-00454110 communities that we are talking about D_S_I5WcnG8-01980-00454112-00454303 these communities have been listed and D_S_I5WcnG8-01981-00454304-00454463 the lists that are available to us are D_S_I5WcnG8-01982-00454464-00454599 actually quite limiting you know if you D_S_I5WcnG8-01983-00454600-00454831 look at the rainy commission report uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01984-00454832-00455095 the ncdnt report you will see that the D_S_I5WcnG8-01985-00455096-00455439 the tribes that have been um included as D_S_I5WcnG8-01986-00455439-00455743 dnt's in some of these uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01987-00455743-00455966 some of the the reports that are the D_S_I5WcnG8-01988-00455967-00456135 government reports that are available D_S_I5WcnG8-01989-00456135-00456335 don't really show you that the larger D_S_I5WcnG8-01990-00456335-00456551 picture of the criminalization of so D_S_I5WcnG8-01991-00456552-00456791 many castes like i mentioned and tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-01992-00456792-00456951 and lower castes and dalit communities D_S_I5WcnG8-01993-00456952-00457039 as well D_S_I5WcnG8-01994-00457039-00457695 under the criminal tribes act D_S_I5WcnG8-01995-00457696-00457783 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-01996-00457784-00457999 there's a question D_S_I5WcnG8-01997-00458000-00458110 which is D_S_I5WcnG8-01998-00458112-00458318 it says could you please share some of D_S_I5WcnG8-01999-00458319-00458487 your thoughts D_S_I5WcnG8-02000-00458488-00458679 on D_S_I5WcnG8-02001-00458680-00458895 the juvenile justice act and its impact D_S_I5WcnG8-02002-00458896-00459031 on children from marginalized D_S_I5WcnG8-02003-00459032-00459222 communities D_S_I5WcnG8-02004-00459223-00459518 i am honestly i am not um an expert on D_S_I5WcnG8-02005-00459519-00459614 this D_S_I5WcnG8-02006-00459615-00459935 uh and i i mean if nikita you have D_S_I5WcnG8-02007-00459935-00460166 something to add to this all i know is D_S_I5WcnG8-02008-00460167-00460463 and can talk about is um you know from D_S_I5WcnG8-02009-00460464-00460655 what i have seen from the D_S_I5WcnG8-02010-00460656-00460975 my visits to vegas uh homes and D_S_I5WcnG8-02011-00460976-00461231 institutions is that uh somewhere you D_S_I5WcnG8-02012-00461232-00461463 see that uh when these communities are D_S_I5WcnG8-02013-00461464-00461703 incarcerated in these beggars homes uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02014-00461704-00461879 the children are actually separated and D_S_I5WcnG8-02015-00461880-00462175 one has to again trace this system to D_S_I5WcnG8-02016-00462176-00462375 the original criminal tribes act where D_S_I5WcnG8-02017-00462376-00462510 the act D_S_I5WcnG8-02018-00462512-00462679 provided for separation of children and D_S_I5WcnG8-02019-00462680-00462935 family members from um you know the D_S_I5WcnG8-02020-00462935-00463255 adult members of the family right um so D_S_I5WcnG8-02021-00463256-00463366 um D_S_I5WcnG8-02022-00463367-00463687 i mean that's that's just uh what i know D_S_I5WcnG8-02023-00463688-00463855 uh so D_S_I5WcnG8-02024-00463856-00464151 our children were separated and also D_S_I5WcnG8-02025-00464152-00464318 the sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-02026-00464319-00464510 data that was collected right because as D_S_I5WcnG8-02027-00464512-00464735 part of the registration process D_S_I5WcnG8-02028-00464735-00464943 uh there were footprints fingerprints a D_S_I5WcnG8-02029-00464943-00465039 lot of D_S_I5WcnG8-02030-00465039-00465255 demographic and D_S_I5WcnG8-02031-00465256-00465431 data about D_S_I5WcnG8-02032-00465432-00465614 the people who were put in these D_S_I5WcnG8-02033-00465615-00465791 settlements and criminalized by birth D_S_I5WcnG8-02034-00465792-00465943 all of their data was sought and this D_S_I5WcnG8-02035-00465943-00466183 also included children right D_S_I5WcnG8-02036-00466184-00466455 and then post independence when D_S_I5WcnG8-02037-00466456-00466631 the criminal tribes act was repealed and D_S_I5WcnG8-02038-00466632-00466847 the habitual offenders regime was D_S_I5WcnG8-02039-00466847-00467159 ushered in uh you saw all of this data D_S_I5WcnG8-02040-00467160-00467407 of children also being D_S_I5WcnG8-02041-00467408-00467583 replicated as part of these various D_S_I5WcnG8-02042-00467584-00467766 dossiers that the police continues to D_S_I5WcnG8-02043-00467767-00467943 maintain so they're called history D_S_I5WcnG8-02044-00467943-00468127 shooters rowdy shooters so on and so D_S_I5WcnG8-02045-00468128-00468318 forth right um and then you of course D_S_I5WcnG8-02046-00468319-00468559 have the juvenile justice act which says D_S_I5WcnG8-02047-00468560-00468663 that D_S_I5WcnG8-02048-00468664-00468839 there's a principle of fresh start which D_S_I5WcnG8-02049-00468839-00469087 means if a juvenile in conflict with law D_S_I5WcnG8-02050-00469088-00469247 there's a juvenile in conflict with law D_S_I5WcnG8-02051-00469247-00469470 that sort of record cannot form D_S_I5WcnG8-02052-00469471-00469718 a part of their uh quote unquote D_S_I5WcnG8-02053-00469719-00469935 criminal record as an adult right but we D_S_I5WcnG8-02054-00469935-00470135 see that happening very often D_S_I5WcnG8-02055-00470135-00470335 uh as lawyers particularly who are D_S_I5WcnG8-02056-00470335-00470551 representing children D_S_I5WcnG8-02057-00470552-00470807 mukhtar communities you see that D_S_I5WcnG8-02058-00470808-00471007 you know when these children grow up and D_S_I5WcnG8-02059-00471008-00471239 attain majority you see that D_S_I5WcnG8-02060-00471239-00471583 these cases that they were charged under D_S_I5WcnG8-02061-00471584-00471822 as miners also become part of the record D_S_I5WcnG8-02062-00471823-00472039 safer experiments or for D_S_I5WcnG8-02063-00472039-00472279 furnishing these securities D_S_I5WcnG8-02064-00472280-00472559 under section 110 of the crpc so when D_S_I5WcnG8-02065-00472560-00472727 you pull up the records you see that D_S_I5WcnG8-02066-00472728-00472927 several of those cases will be cases D_S_I5WcnG8-02067-00472928-00473118 that they will be charged D_S_I5WcnG8-02068-00473119-00473343 for as children right and this sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-02069-00473343-00473622 modus operandi also you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02070-00473623-00473831 that these are criminal children and D_S_I5WcnG8-02071-00473832-00474022 then very often you also see in cases D_S_I5WcnG8-02072-00474023-00474135 which is that D_S_I5WcnG8-02073-00474135-00474343 if the parents are charged for offenses D_S_I5WcnG8-02074-00474343-00474551 you will also see the children being D_S_I5WcnG8-02075-00474552-00474743 charged and the case being made out to D_S_I5WcnG8-02076-00474743-00474839 say that D_S_I5WcnG8-02077-00474839-00474999 the parents are using the children to D_S_I5WcnG8-02078-00475000-00475214 commit crimes right because one of the D_S_I5WcnG8-02079-00475215-00475366 like the rationale for the criminal D_S_I5WcnG8-02080-00475367-00475518 tribes act is that it's hereditary D_S_I5WcnG8-02081-00475519-00475687 criminality so you're also trying to D_S_I5WcnG8-02082-00475688-00475799 establish D_S_I5WcnG8-02083-00475800-00476031 to say that look this is a legacy that D_S_I5WcnG8-02084-00476032-00476222 is being passed on from one generation D_S_I5WcnG8-02085-00476223-00476359 to another D_S_I5WcnG8-02086-00476360-00476495 and not only does the child have D_S_I5WcnG8-02087-00476496-00476647 criminal instincts but they're also D_S_I5WcnG8-02088-00476647-00476879 being trained to be a criminal so i D_S_I5WcnG8-02089-00476880-00477143 think here and also now there is D_S_I5WcnG8-02090-00477143-00477463 a particularly sort of dangerous D_S_I5WcnG8-02091-00477464-00477559 uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02092-00477560-00477783 trend with the digitization of these D_S_I5WcnG8-02093-00477784-00477943 registers and police stations that are D_S_I5WcnG8-02094-00477943-00478183 also going to see the sort of data of D_S_I5WcnG8-02095-00478184-00478414 children uh being digitized as part of D_S_I5WcnG8-02096-00478415-00478559 databases that the indian government D_S_I5WcnG8-02097-00478560-00478814 wants to do uh with the cctns and now D_S_I5WcnG8-02098-00478815-00479047 with more recently with the criminal uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02099-00479047-00479239 procedure identification bill we will D_S_I5WcnG8-02100-00479239-00479495 see now uh you know data of children D_S_I5WcnG8-02101-00479496-00479703 also being digitally imported and apart D_S_I5WcnG8-02102-00479704-00479895 from that whether it's in terms of D_S_I5WcnG8-02103-00479896-00480110 surveillance whether it is in terms of D_S_I5WcnG8-02104-00480112-00480318 torture the kind of violence D_S_I5WcnG8-02105-00480319-00480510 that is meted out to D_S_I5WcnG8-02106-00480512-00480718 members of the communities as a part of D_S_I5WcnG8-02107-00480719-00480887 everyday policing D_S_I5WcnG8-02108-00480888-00481055 functions children are also at the D_S_I5WcnG8-02109-00481056-00481214 receiving end of that there is D_S_I5WcnG8-02110-00481215-00481422 absolutely no distinction the juvenile D_S_I5WcnG8-02111-00481423-00481566 justice act D_S_I5WcnG8-02112-00481567-00481775 then just seeks to be on paper and it's D_S_I5WcnG8-02113-00481776-00481975 something that the that the board also D_S_I5WcnG8-02114-00481976-00482191 espouses to say that you know that D_S_I5WcnG8-02115-00482192-00482414 rationale continues right even in before D_S_I5WcnG8-02116-00482415-00482607 the juvenile justice board under the act D_S_I5WcnG8-02117-00482608-00482775 when there's a bail application that is D_S_I5WcnG8-02118-00482776-00483007 heard that rationale is upheld that you D_S_I5WcnG8-02119-00483008-00483503 know these are D_S_I5WcnG8-02120-00483504-00483743 so yeah i mean we see that happening i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-02121-00483743-00483935 going to quickly move on to D_S_I5WcnG8-02122-00483935-00484191 another question uh this other question D_S_I5WcnG8-02123-00484192-00484431 is that the innocent until proven guilty D_S_I5WcnG8-02124-00484432-00484614 principle doesn't apply to criminalize D_S_I5WcnG8-02125-00484615-00484870 tribe how does the burden of proof shift D_S_I5WcnG8-02126-00484871-00485183 also the burden of proof be being beyond D_S_I5WcnG8-02127-00485184-00485455 reason reasonable doubts how are scst D_S_I5WcnG8-02128-00485456-00485662 groups being over represented in jails D_S_I5WcnG8-02129-00485663-00485799 and debt trials i think the latter of D_S_I5WcnG8-02130-00485800-00486087 you have addressed already so uh if we D_S_I5WcnG8-02131-00486088-00486247 can talk a little bit about the first D_S_I5WcnG8-02132-00486247-00486447 half of about how the innocent until D_S_I5WcnG8-02133-00486447-00486647 proven guilty principle D_S_I5WcnG8-02134-00486647-00486887 uh is turned on its head when it comes D_S_I5WcnG8-02135-00486888-00487070 to D_S_I5WcnG8-02136-00487071-00487255 communities D_S_I5WcnG8-02137-00487256-00487487 yeah uh i mean it's D_S_I5WcnG8-02138-00487488-00487895 it's um uh as if uh you know these D_S_I5WcnG8-02139-00487896-00488095 communities are D_S_I5WcnG8-02140-00488096-00488335 sort of um D_S_I5WcnG8-02141-00488335-00488527 you know available to D_S_I5WcnG8-02142-00488528-00488710 the police and the state D_S_I5WcnG8-02143-00488712-00489087 uh to sort of um D_S_I5WcnG8-02144-00489088-00489303 whenever there is a crime that happens D_S_I5WcnG8-02145-00489304-00489583 in a vicinity and there is a denotified D_S_I5WcnG8-02146-00489584-00489783 tribal and and you will see that there D_S_I5WcnG8-02147-00489784-00489855 are D_S_I5WcnG8-02148-00489856-00489959 um D_S_I5WcnG8-02149-00489960-00490135 these communities have been ghettoized D_S_I5WcnG8-02150-00490135-00490343 wherever they are right D_S_I5WcnG8-02151-00490343-00490479 and the police D_S_I5WcnG8-02152-00490480-00490727 station and the police officials often D_S_I5WcnG8-02153-00490728-00490927 are very much aware and these D_S_I5WcnG8-02154-00490928-00491118 communities are very much visible and D_S_I5WcnG8-02155-00491119-00491310 hyper visible in fact in whatever D_S_I5WcnG8-02156-00491312-00491527 locality they are to the police D_S_I5WcnG8-02157-00491528-00491766 machinery right uh so every time an D_S_I5WcnG8-02158-00491767-00491918 offense happens and the police has to D_S_I5WcnG8-02159-00491919-00492183 show some kind of control on crime D_S_I5WcnG8-02160-00492184-00492551 uh in the region or in the locality D_S_I5WcnG8-02161-00492552-00492791 you will often see that D_S_I5WcnG8-02162-00492792-00493095 if there is an unnamed fire you know uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02163-00493096-00493222 someone has D_S_I5WcnG8-02164-00493223-00493607 um uh you know um there is a theft case D_S_I5WcnG8-02165-00493608-00493831 um and i approach the police and i don't D_S_I5WcnG8-02166-00493832-00493918 know who D_S_I5WcnG8-02167-00493919-00494175 uh the the actual offender is who who D_S_I5WcnG8-02168-00494176-00494383 has committed the offense i will go to D_S_I5WcnG8-02169-00494384-00494510 the police and i would say that you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02170-00494512-00494735 i want to register an affair and i have D_S_I5WcnG8-02171-00494735-00494895 lost some some of these things but i D_S_I5WcnG8-02172-00494896-00495231 don't know who has done this um and D_S_I5WcnG8-02173-00495232-00495462 i i think that the person looked a D_S_I5WcnG8-02174-00495463-00495687 certain way like this D_S_I5WcnG8-02175-00495688-00495879 and was wearing a mask D_S_I5WcnG8-02176-00495880-00496175 um and you know like this this is what a D_S_I5WcnG8-02177-00496176-00496391 typical airfire looks like and these are D_S_I5WcnG8-02178-00496392-00496639 these fires are fertile ground for the D_S_I5WcnG8-02179-00496639-00496918 police to pick and it's an unnamed fire D_S_I5WcnG8-02180-00496919-00497070 you know and the description of this D_S_I5WcnG8-02181-00497071-00497247 this so-called random person is given in D_S_I5WcnG8-02182-00497247-00497487 that fir but this is a fertile ground D_S_I5WcnG8-02183-00497488-00497727 for the police to approach those D_S_I5WcnG8-02184-00497728-00497966 denotified tribe localities to conduct D_S_I5WcnG8-02185-00497967-00498214 bombing operations over there to harass D_S_I5WcnG8-02186-00498215-00498535 uh you know adult uh or even young very D_S_I5WcnG8-02187-00498535-00498807 young like nikita was saying you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02188-00498808-00499079 even juveniles uh for that matter uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02189-00499080-00499327 from these localities of d notified D_S_I5WcnG8-02190-00499328-00499510 communities and they are picked up and D_S_I5WcnG8-02191-00499512-00499783 one one such case uh in fact is that of D_S_I5WcnG8-02192-00499784-00499959 angus maruti D_S_I5WcnG8-02193-00499960-00500270 you're aware of this case this is a 2018 D_S_I5WcnG8-02194-00500271-00500575 um you know case um so the judgment came D_S_I5WcnG8-02195-00500576-00500751 out in 2018 D_S_I5WcnG8-02196-00500752-00500983 but there were these there was this case D_S_I5WcnG8-02197-00500984-00501214 um some 16 years back D_S_I5WcnG8-02198-00501215-00501662 uh where uh there was um a robbery in a D_S_I5WcnG8-02199-00501663-00501966 house uh a woman was raped uh she was D_S_I5WcnG8-02200-00501967-00502127 gang raped so this is this is what the D_S_I5WcnG8-02201-00502128-00502335 fire looked like she was gang raped and D_S_I5WcnG8-02202-00502335-00502535 there were six individuals unnamed D_S_I5WcnG8-02203-00502535-00502683 individuals in that D_S_I5WcnG8-02204-00502684-00503007 fire and the police actually went on to D_S_I5WcnG8-02205-00503008-00503366 pick six pardee men from apartheid D_S_I5WcnG8-02206-00503367-00503527 right which is a denotified tribe from D_S_I5WcnG8-02207-00503528-00503662 maharashtra D_S_I5WcnG8-02208-00503663-00503951 um and one of whom so the course title D_S_I5WcnG8-02209-00503952-00504439 angus maruti D_S_I5WcnG8-02210-00504439-00504622 it is said and it was found that he was D_S_I5WcnG8-02211-00504623-00504807 actually a juvenile you know he was he D_S_I5WcnG8-02212-00504808-00505055 was below 18 years of age he was a minor D_S_I5WcnG8-02213-00505056-00505351 uh when he was picked so these six party D_S_I5WcnG8-02214-00505352-00505583 men were picked by the police in this D_S_I5WcnG8-02215-00505584-00505791 fire which had D_S_I5WcnG8-02216-00505792-00506135 six unnamed people right um and you see D_S_I5WcnG8-02217-00506135-00506327 that they languished uh they were D_S_I5WcnG8-02218-00506328-00506662 sentenced to death in the lower court um D_S_I5WcnG8-02219-00506663-00506895 uh it was upheld their sentences were D_S_I5WcnG8-02220-00506896-00506991 upheld D_S_I5WcnG8-02221-00506992-00507199 in the high court uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02222-00507200-00507575 one of whom angus in fact was put in um D_S_I5WcnG8-02223-00507576-00507807 solitary confinement D_S_I5WcnG8-02224-00507808-00507975 and the case went to the supreme court D_S_I5WcnG8-02225-00507976-00508231 the supreme court also upheld D_S_I5WcnG8-02226-00508232-00508439 and held that uh you know they were in D_S_I5WcnG8-02227-00508439-00508783 fact guilty these these six men D_S_I5WcnG8-02228-00508784-00509047 and later a curative petition i think a D_S_I5WcnG8-02229-00509047-00509335 revision petition was filed uh wherein D_S_I5WcnG8-02230-00509335-00509455 um D_S_I5WcnG8-02231-00509456-00509735 a very famous lawyer from bombay argued D_S_I5WcnG8-02232-00509735-00510039 that case yup chaudhary and he argued on D_S_I5WcnG8-02233-00510039-00510231 behalf of these D_S_I5WcnG8-02234-00510232-00510414 party men D_S_I5WcnG8-02235-00510415-00510679 and it was it was found that there was D_S_I5WcnG8-02236-00510680-00510847 actually no evidence D_S_I5WcnG8-02237-00510847-00511135 so this is at the stage when uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-02238-00511135-00511270 lower court the high court and the D_S_I5WcnG8-02239-00511271-00511462 supreme court has said that yes these D_S_I5WcnG8-02240-00511463-00511751 men were guilty uh but at the D_S_I5WcnG8-02241-00511752-00512047 revision stage review stage it was found D_S_I5WcnG8-02242-00512047-00512214 that there wasn't enough evidence D_S_I5WcnG8-02243-00512215-00512470 against these men and the supreme court D_S_I5WcnG8-02244-00512471-00512662 then ordered for reinvestigation of the D_S_I5WcnG8-02245-00512663-00512910 case acquitted these six men saying that D_S_I5WcnG8-02246-00512912-00513135 there is no evidence against them D_S_I5WcnG8-02247-00513135-00513262 and these men D_S_I5WcnG8-02248-00513263-00513518 were languishing in in the jail for 16 D_S_I5WcnG8-02249-00513519-00513759 whole years and and some compensation of D_S_I5WcnG8-02250-00513760-00513983 like i think five lakh or four lakh was D_S_I5WcnG8-02251-00513984-00514191 awarded you know and this is literally D_S_I5WcnG8-02252-00514192-00514343 these men when they were picked they D_S_I5WcnG8-02253-00514343-00514662 were 18 19 and by the time they came out D_S_I5WcnG8-02254-00514663-00514862 you know they were they their entire you D_S_I5WcnG8-02255-00514863-00514935 know D_S_I5WcnG8-02256-00514935-00515247 uh youth was basically lost in jail D_S_I5WcnG8-02257-00515247-00515527 and um there's a there's a story you D_S_I5WcnG8-02258-00515528-00515679 know that um D_S_I5WcnG8-02259-00515680-00516007 that records uh one of uh these six D_S_I5WcnG8-02260-00516008-00516222 persons uh and their statement after D_S_I5WcnG8-02261-00516223-00516327 they were released and they were D_S_I5WcnG8-02262-00516328-00516583 acquitted and it was said that you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02263-00516584-00516775 the case in fact against them D_S_I5WcnG8-02264-00516776-00516983 was all a doctor case by the police and D_S_I5WcnG8-02265-00516984-00517214 there was um all of this that happened D_S_I5WcnG8-02266-00517215-00517407 and the the person D_S_I5WcnG8-02267-00517408-00517622 uh is asked that how do you feel now and D_S_I5WcnG8-02268-00517623-00517791 he says that D_S_I5WcnG8-02269-00517792-00517951 it was said in the fire that these are D_S_I5WcnG8-02270-00517952-00518318 the hands of a person uh who raped and D_S_I5WcnG8-02271-00518319-00518670 murdered people um and for 16 years i D_S_I5WcnG8-02272-00518671-00518887 was told that this is the hand of of D_S_I5WcnG8-02273-00518888-00519143 this man uh but this literally is a hand D_S_I5WcnG8-02274-00519143-00519470 of a hard-working man um and uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02275-00519471-00519695 you know it's it's a very pagan story D_S_I5WcnG8-02276-00519696-00519870 it's it's um D_S_I5WcnG8-02277-00519871-00520070 it's it's so representative D_S_I5WcnG8-02278-00520071-00520359 of what continues to happen to D_S_I5WcnG8-02279-00520360-00520662 uh the many uh criminalized tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-02280-00520663-00521239 re-notified tribes persons parties D_S_I5WcnG8-02281-00521239-00521510 um so um D_S_I5WcnG8-02282-00521512-00521703 i'm sorry i forgot the original question D_S_I5WcnG8-02283-00521704-00521910 but i don't know i think you i answered D_S_I5WcnG8-02284-00521912-00522166 it yeah yeah you did you did D_S_I5WcnG8-02285-00522167-00522470 i just want to add here that you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02286-00522471-00522695 with someone like ankush maruti shinde D_S_I5WcnG8-02287-00522696-00522951 in a case like that also D_S_I5WcnG8-02288-00522952-00523135 the sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-02289-00523135-00523431 determination of a habitual offender and D_S_I5WcnG8-02290-00523432-00523631 the category of a habitual offender is D_S_I5WcnG8-02291-00523632-00523831 so pernicious D_S_I5WcnG8-02292-00523832-00524070 that even after being acquitted and D_S_I5WcnG8-02293-00524071-00524222 being acquitted by the highest D_S_I5WcnG8-02294-00524223-00524462 constitutional court of this country one D_S_I5WcnG8-02295-00524463-00524703 can continue to be treated as a habitual D_S_I5WcnG8-02296-00524704-00524895 offender right because it's not D_S_I5WcnG8-02297-00524896-00525062 something that is contingent on D_S_I5WcnG8-02298-00525063-00525255 acquittal so it's almost D_S_I5WcnG8-02299-00525256-00525511 policing powers and powers of the police D_S_I5WcnG8-02300-00525512-00525791 that are operating in some sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-02301-00525792-00526103 constitutional void and avoid D_S_I5WcnG8-02302-00526104-00526375 even also like even like it's almost D_S_I5WcnG8-02303-00526376-00526647 like the crpc and constitutional D_S_I5WcnG8-02304-00526648-00526918 provisions and fundamental tenets of D_S_I5WcnG8-02305-00526919-00527191 criminal law are completely turned on D_S_I5WcnG8-02306-00527192-00527375 its head when it comes to the D_S_I5WcnG8-02307-00527376-00527583 determination of habitual offenders D_S_I5WcnG8-02308-00527584-00527679 because D_S_I5WcnG8-02309-00527680-00527895 it's it's almost like once you're a D_S_I5WcnG8-02310-00527896-00528111 habitual offender it's it's it's like D_S_I5WcnG8-02311-00528112-00528295 there is no right to be forgotten right D_S_I5WcnG8-02312-00528296-00528679 your data uh your measurements and the D_S_I5WcnG8-02313-00528680-00528847 criminalization and this surveillance D_S_I5WcnG8-02314-00528848-00529014 and i just want to D_S_I5WcnG8-02315-00529015-00529207 talk about what this surveillance means D_S_I5WcnG8-02316-00529208-00529462 right a little bit because you know very D_S_I5WcnG8-02317-00529463-00529679 often we think that criminalization is D_S_I5WcnG8-02318-00529680-00529918 only incarceration right also because D_S_I5WcnG8-02319-00529919-00530183 and disha has elaborated on this so D_S_I5WcnG8-02320-00530184-00530327 beautifully in our talk where she's D_S_I5WcnG8-02321-00530328-00530495 talking about the category of political D_S_I5WcnG8-02322-00530496-00530703 prisoners what that has also done is D_S_I5WcnG8-02323-00530704-00530903 confined the conversation of D_S_I5WcnG8-02324-00530904-00531151 criminalization to incarceration alone D_S_I5WcnG8-02325-00531152-00531407 but criminalization for scores of D_S_I5WcnG8-02326-00531408-00531566 communities particularly with the D_S_I5WcnG8-02327-00531567-00531751 communities means you can't go to the D_S_I5WcnG8-02328-00531752-00531855 market D_S_I5WcnG8-02329-00531856-00532055 because you're under police surveillance D_S_I5WcnG8-02330-00532056-00532999 if you go D_S_I5WcnG8-02331-00533000-00533159 either you can be charged with the case D_S_I5WcnG8-02332-00533160-00533311 or there have been instances most D_S_I5WcnG8-02333-00533312-00533822 recently D_S_I5WcnG8-02334-00533823-00534007 to shop for his daughter's wedding was D_S_I5WcnG8-02335-00534008-00534159 picked up by the police taken to the D_S_I5WcnG8-02336-00534160-00534327 thana and then killed in police custody D_S_I5WcnG8-02337-00534328-00534599 he was charged under the excise act D_S_I5WcnG8-02338-00534600-00534855 for being in possession of mohammed D_S_I5WcnG8-02339-00534856-00535047 you know it also means that D_S_I5WcnG8-02340-00535048-00535270 for gatherings right including weddings D_S_I5WcnG8-02341-00535271-00535455 you're required to take permission from D_S_I5WcnG8-02342-00535456-00535711 the local police station uh you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02343-00535712-00535918 weddings in pardee families the first D_S_I5WcnG8-02344-00535919-00536095 invitation that has to be given is an D_S_I5WcnG8-02345-00536096-00536318 invitation uh that is attested to an D_S_I5WcnG8-02346-00536319-00536495 application to the local police station D_S_I5WcnG8-02347-00536496-00536614 asking for permission because the D_S_I5WcnG8-02348-00536615-00536799 assumption is that if a group of parties D_S_I5WcnG8-02349-00536800-00537022 are congregating uh it means it is to D_S_I5WcnG8-02350-00537023-00537255 conspire to commit a crime right so D_S_I5WcnG8-02351-00537256-00537447 where it means that you know children D_S_I5WcnG8-02352-00537448-00537599 are dropping out of schools because they D_S_I5WcnG8-02353-00537600-00537791 are picked up by the police so it's a D_S_I5WcnG8-02354-00537792-00538083 it's a 360 degree web of D_S_I5WcnG8-02355-00538084-00538311 criminalization one that has an D_S_I5WcnG8-02356-00538312-00538518 all-encompassing effect on the lives of D_S_I5WcnG8-02357-00538519-00538766 people uh that we're talking about and D_S_I5WcnG8-02358-00538767-00538999 it ranges far beyond incarceration and D_S_I5WcnG8-02359-00539000-00539222 even when it results in incarceration it D_S_I5WcnG8-02360-00539223-00539335 continues D_S_I5WcnG8-02361-00539336-00539559 even after one has been released from D_S_I5WcnG8-02362-00539560-00539822 prison so i think it's important to talk D_S_I5WcnG8-02363-00539823-00540070 about the sort of web of criminalization D_S_I5WcnG8-02364-00540071-00540295 in an entire structure uh that is D_S_I5WcnG8-02365-00540296-00540559 designed to criminalize and D_S_I5WcnG8-02366-00540560-00540751 you know in so many ways D_S_I5WcnG8-02367-00540752-00540943 oppress certain groups that we are D_S_I5WcnG8-02368-00540944-00541183 talking about here and we D_S_I5WcnG8-02369-00541184-00541407 before moving on we just have one final D_S_I5WcnG8-02370-00541408-00541503 question D_S_I5WcnG8-02371-00541504-00541775 uh disha which is talking about uh you D_S_I5WcnG8-02372-00541776-00541975 know that obcs are mainly understood as D_S_I5WcnG8-02373-00541976-00542159 the dominant community but you are D_S_I5WcnG8-02374-00542160-00542318 talking about D_S_I5WcnG8-02375-00542319-00542614 so many of whom are classified uh as obc D_S_I5WcnG8-02376-00542615-00542759 so you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02377-00542760-00542983 how can we understand uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-02378-00542984-00543175 criminalization of obc's and i mean i'm D_S_I5WcnG8-02379-00543176-00543366 going to rephrase the question a little D_S_I5WcnG8-02380-00543367-00543591 bit uh to talk about the sort of status D_S_I5WcnG8-02381-00543592-00543879 categorization right uh because unlike D_S_I5WcnG8-02382-00543880-00544047 scheduled scheduled tribes who have D_S_I5WcnG8-02383-00544048-00544255 their own category there is barring D_S_I5WcnG8-02384-00544256-00544439 maybe maharashtra and a couple of other D_S_I5WcnG8-02385-00544440-00544607 states there is no separate D_S_I5WcnG8-02386-00544608-00544862 administrative categorization of dnt's D_S_I5WcnG8-02387-00544863-00545070 uh and nomadic tribes right and so i D_S_I5WcnG8-02388-00545071-00545222 want to understand and i think this is D_S_I5WcnG8-02389-00545223-00545455 what this question is also alluding to D_S_I5WcnG8-02390-00545456-00545591 uh is D_S_I5WcnG8-02391-00545592-00545718 one is D_S_I5WcnG8-02392-00545719-00545927 what impact does the lack of an D_S_I5WcnG8-02393-00545928-00546191 administrative categorization due D_S_I5WcnG8-02394-00546192-00546366 to the struggles the historical D_S_I5WcnG8-02395-00546367-00546599 struggles uh and plight of the D_S_I5WcnG8-02396-00546600-00546847 communities and secondly uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02397-00546848-00547031 what and this is drawing more from the D_S_I5WcnG8-02398-00547032-00547255 question that has been asked uh what D_S_I5WcnG8-02399-00547256-00547447 does being clubbed under the category of D_S_I5WcnG8-02400-00547448-00547735 obcs which is uh almost like the most D_S_I5WcnG8-02401-00547736-00547983 sort of heterogeneous category uh what D_S_I5WcnG8-02402-00547984-00548191 does it do to then D_S_I5WcnG8-02403-00548192-00548311 um D_S_I5WcnG8-02404-00548312-00548591 the struggles and the narratives of the D_S_I5WcnG8-02405-00548592-00548759 mukta's and the history of their D_S_I5WcnG8-02406-00548760-00548943 criminalization so it's a two-part D_S_I5WcnG8-02407-00548944-00549055 question D_S_I5WcnG8-02408-00549056-00549487 yeah um so nikita um before i answer D_S_I5WcnG8-02409-00549488-00549695 this question i want to point out that D_S_I5WcnG8-02410-00549696-00549895 when one is talking about D_S_I5WcnG8-02411-00549896-00550111 uh the nomadic and notified communities D_S_I5WcnG8-02412-00550112-00550279 ntd ts D_S_I5WcnG8-02413-00550280-00550518 it is not a small population it is not D_S_I5WcnG8-02414-00550519-00550743 uh you know that a small number of D_S_I5WcnG8-02415-00550744-00550927 people are being treated this way so you D_S_I5WcnG8-02416-00550928-00551118 know it's i mean all right D_S_I5WcnG8-02417-00551119-00551318 this is a population of close to 10 to D_S_I5WcnG8-02418-00551319-00551670 15 percent uh people right um it's we're D_S_I5WcnG8-02419-00551671-00551903 talking about uh you know 10 to 15 D_S_I5WcnG8-02420-00551904-00552214 percent nomadic semi-nomadic um D_S_I5WcnG8-02421-00552215-00552407 anti-notified tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-02422-00552408-00552670 um so it is it is not a small population D_S_I5WcnG8-02423-00552671-00552895 but um even before i talk about the D_S_I5WcnG8-02424-00552896-00553151 administrative categorization of uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-02425-00553152-00553391 nddnt communities i would say that D_S_I5WcnG8-02426-00553392-00553607 um D_S_I5WcnG8-02427-00553608-00553870 this category um D_S_I5WcnG8-02428-00553871-00554207 of nd dnt's um you know is is not new D_S_I5WcnG8-02429-00554208-00554343 like you said you know there are a few D_S_I5WcnG8-02430-00554344-00554495 states that have a separate category D_S_I5WcnG8-02431-00554496-00554679 such as maharashtra has a separate D_S_I5WcnG8-02432-00554680-00554911 category of vgnt category or D_S_I5WcnG8-02433-00554912-00555087 in fact tamil nadu also has a dnc D_S_I5WcnG8-02434-00555088-00555287 category d notified communities but D_S_I5WcnG8-02435-00555288-00555422 apart from these two states you don't D_S_I5WcnG8-02436-00555423-00555591 see this category D_S_I5WcnG8-02437-00555592-00555807 but i would like to take you a little uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02438-00555808-00555959 you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02439-00555960-00556327 in history uh where uh continuously in D_S_I5WcnG8-02440-00556328-00556535 many of these commissions uh in colonial D_S_I5WcnG8-02441-00556536-00556670 times one of which is the sharps D_S_I5WcnG8-02442-00556671-00556814 commission D_S_I5WcnG8-02443-00556815-00556991 you will see that along with the D_S_I5WcnG8-02444-00556992-00557262 depressed classes which is you know who D_S_I5WcnG8-02445-00557263-00557399 have now been administratively D_S_I5WcnG8-02446-00557400-00557583 categorized as scheduled caste then you D_S_I5WcnG8-02447-00557584-00557735 have the scheduled tribes which is the D_S_I5WcnG8-02448-00557736-00557911 forest communities there was a third D_S_I5WcnG8-02449-00557912-00558175 category uh that existed in all these D_S_I5WcnG8-02450-00558176-00558359 pre-constitutional commissions and talks D_S_I5WcnG8-02451-00558360-00558647 on uh the conditions of some of these D_S_I5WcnG8-02452-00558648-00558935 minority common communities right uh and D_S_I5WcnG8-02453-00558936-00559151 their demands and the third category was D_S_I5WcnG8-02454-00559152-00559439 that of the criminal tribes um D_S_I5WcnG8-02455-00559440-00559599 but all of a sudden you know you see D_S_I5WcnG8-02456-00559600-00559831 that uh the depressed classes find in D_S_I5WcnG8-02457-00559832-00560007 the constitution they find a schedule D_S_I5WcnG8-02458-00560008-00560135 for themselves called the scheduled D_S_I5WcnG8-02459-00560136-00560414 caste um the uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02460-00560415-00560559 you know the forest community the D_S_I5WcnG8-02461-00560560-00560751 adivasi community finds a separate D_S_I5WcnG8-02462-00560752-00561039 schedule for them uh but you see that D_S_I5WcnG8-02463-00561040-00561262 the criminal tribes uh are not to be D_S_I5WcnG8-02464-00561263-00561591 seen as a separate category that has uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02465-00561592-00561807 you know who has suffered historical D_S_I5WcnG8-02466-00561808-00562159 historic injustice um and that that kind D_S_I5WcnG8-02467-00562160-00562439 of erasure in the constitution is uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02468-00562440-00562959 really in my um understanding a sort of D_S_I5WcnG8-02469-00562960-00563295 uh the the problem uh the the reason why D_S_I5WcnG8-02470-00563296-00563391 you know the D_S_I5WcnG8-02471-00563392-00563559 nomadic and denotified communities have D_S_I5WcnG8-02472-00563560-00563807 not been able to come out of of this D_S_I5WcnG8-02473-00563808-00564022 cycle of criminality and the cycle of D_S_I5WcnG8-02474-00564023-00564159 oppression and exploitation that they D_S_I5WcnG8-02475-00564160-00564247 face D_S_I5WcnG8-02476-00564248-00564575 um uh because uh there are i think close D_S_I5WcnG8-02477-00564576-00564927 to 15 or 20 um sort of uh reports and D_S_I5WcnG8-02478-00564928-00565151 commissions on ntdnt communities and D_S_I5WcnG8-02479-00565152-00565343 most of these community commissions and D_S_I5WcnG8-02480-00565344-00565631 reports will point out that as far as D_S_I5WcnG8-02481-00565632-00565791 social indicators are concerned economic D_S_I5WcnG8-02482-00565792-00565927 indicators are concerned educational D_S_I5WcnG8-02483-00565928-00566103 indicators are concerned nomadic D_S_I5WcnG8-02484-00566104-00566343 denotified communities fair far worse D_S_I5WcnG8-02485-00566344-00566527 than the scheduled caste of the sharing D_S_I5WcnG8-02486-00566528-00566679 tribe communities this is not to say D_S_I5WcnG8-02487-00566680-00566895 that the notified tribes or nomadic D_S_I5WcnG8-02488-00566896-00567079 communities do not find D_S_I5WcnG8-02489-00567080-00567295 a place within the schedule cast or D_S_I5WcnG8-02490-00567296-00567487 schedule tribe category they do they D_S_I5WcnG8-02491-00567488-00567718 also find place in the obc category like D_S_I5WcnG8-02492-00567719-00567966 uh you know the question pointed out D_S_I5WcnG8-02493-00567967-00568166 so now you see that the nomadic and the D_S_I5WcnG8-02494-00568167-00568495 notified community has been uh basically D_S_I5WcnG8-02495-00568496-00568695 put into all these categories the D_S_I5WcnG8-02496-00568696-00568839 scheduled car shuttle tribe and obc D_S_I5WcnG8-02497-00568840-00569007 category most prominently the obc D_S_I5WcnG8-02498-00569008-00569159 category because they are an off the D_S_I5WcnG8-02499-00569160-00569495 thought uh for for the idea of uh you D_S_I5WcnG8-02500-00569496-00569766 know your uh your constitutional uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02501-00569767-00570022 liberal democracy right uh so this D_S_I5WcnG8-02502-00570023-00570166 community because it came as an D_S_I5WcnG8-02503-00570167-00570375 afterthought a lot of uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02504-00570376-00570622 these communities and castes and tribes D_S_I5WcnG8-02505-00570623-00570831 uh were the who were criminalized were D_S_I5WcnG8-02506-00570832-00571183 put into um the the obc fold now the D_S_I5WcnG8-02507-00571184-00571414 understanding of most people when this D_S_I5WcnG8-02508-00571415-00571614 when they refer to obcs as dominant D_S_I5WcnG8-02509-00571615-00571799 caster this according to me the term D_S_I5WcnG8-02510-00571800-00571983 dominant caste is extremely problematic D_S_I5WcnG8-02511-00571984-00572199 and has been forwarded by many sovereign D_S_I5WcnG8-02512-00572200-00572366 academics such as you know immensely D_S_I5WcnG8-02513-00572367-00572535 universe who have been extremely D_S_I5WcnG8-02514-00572536-00572951 problematic uh in that sense um and um D_S_I5WcnG8-02515-00572952-00573247 it it somewhere says that these are D_S_I5WcnG8-02516-00573248-00573399 communities that are server in our D_S_I5WcnG8-02517-00573400-00573559 communities that are that are within the D_S_I5WcnG8-02518-00573560-00573879 varna fold so the reference is to the D_S_I5WcnG8-02519-00573880-00574103 shudra community but obc is close to D_S_I5WcnG8-02520-00574104-00574239 four thousand castes D_S_I5WcnG8-02521-00574240-00574510 right it is not it it is it is a D_S_I5WcnG8-02522-00574511-00574743 category of so many castes and it has D_S_I5WcnG8-02523-00574744-00574943 nomatic community communities it has D_S_I5WcnG8-02524-00574944-00575166 denotified communities that like we saw D_S_I5WcnG8-02525-00575167-00575447 our varna communities they fall outside D_S_I5WcnG8-02526-00575448-00575775 of the varna fold right so equating some D_S_I5WcnG8-02527-00575776-00576070 of these quote unquote dominant castes D_S_I5WcnG8-02528-00576071-00576295 uh that the rohini commission points out D_S_I5WcnG8-02529-00576296-00576583 is you know close to some uh 40-50 D_S_I5WcnG8-02530-00576584-00576935 castes you know uh that are land owning D_S_I5WcnG8-02531-00576936-00577175 and calling them oppressors D_S_I5WcnG8-02532-00577176-00577439 to me is really the distortion D_S_I5WcnG8-02533-00577440-00577862 that the brahman savannah academics want D_S_I5WcnG8-02534-00577863-00578118 right um and and they do not want to D_S_I5WcnG8-02535-00578119-00578318 want you to understand the obc category D_S_I5WcnG8-02536-00578319-00578559 as a whole that comprises of so many D_S_I5WcnG8-02537-00578560-00578655 different D_S_I5WcnG8-02538-00578656-00578951 uh castes and tribes that fall outside D_S_I5WcnG8-02539-00578952-00579231 the varna fold uh that have had D_S_I5WcnG8-02540-00579232-00579687 um you know uh the worst um um D_S_I5WcnG8-02541-00579688-00579895 you know that have been uh really D_S_I5WcnG8-02542-00579896-00580014 oppressed D_S_I5WcnG8-02543-00580015-00580287 by the caste system and that continue to D_S_I5WcnG8-02544-00580288-00580495 uh live in dire D_S_I5WcnG8-02545-00580496-00580766 uh really um D_S_I5WcnG8-02546-00580767-00581118 bad conditions till date so um D_S_I5WcnG8-02547-00581119-00581327 i think that uh i hope that i have D_S_I5WcnG8-02548-00581328-00581687 answered the question i i think that uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02549-00581688-00581991 uh this this whole obc as D_S_I5WcnG8-02550-00581992-00582118 uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-02551-00582119-00582583 equating ovc to shudra a um uh is is D_S_I5WcnG8-02552-00582584-00583070 factually wrong uh b that obc uh are all D_S_I5WcnG8-02553-00583071-00583222 all these four thousand casts are D_S_I5WcnG8-02554-00583223-00583487 dominant castes uh is not at all D_S_I5WcnG8-02555-00583488-00583727 informed by any data in fact if one D_S_I5WcnG8-02556-00583728-00583879 wants to look at the data one could look D_S_I5WcnG8-02557-00583880-00583951 at D_S_I5WcnG8-02558-00583952-00584151 the recent rohini commission report and D_S_I5WcnG8-02559-00584152-00584391 the kind of castes that it says are uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02560-00584392-00584807 and it attributes um uh that kind of uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02561-00584808-00585103 so-called quote-unquote dominance uh to D_S_I5WcnG8-02562-00585104-00585199 a few D_S_I5WcnG8-02563-00585200-00585591 uh castes from the entire obc fold D_S_I5WcnG8-02564-00585592-00585759 and the rest of the casts and the D_S_I5WcnG8-02565-00585760-00585927 communities in fact the passmanda D_S_I5WcnG8-02566-00585928-00586231 community uh falls within the obc fold D_S_I5WcnG8-02567-00586232-00586455 uh dalit muslim communities have not D_S_I5WcnG8-02568-00586456-00586662 been recognized by the constitution as D_S_I5WcnG8-02569-00586663-00586918 shadow castes they fall in the obc fold D_S_I5WcnG8-02570-00586919-00587127 the sachar committee report refers to so D_S_I5WcnG8-02571-00587128-00587351 many uh muslim D_S_I5WcnG8-02572-00587352-00587543 uh dalit muslim communities so many D_S_I5WcnG8-02573-00587544-00587799 nomadic communities like uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-02574-00587800-00588079 calendars uh you know madaris you know D_S_I5WcnG8-02575-00588080-00588462 some D_S_I5WcnG8-02576-00588463-00588703 uh in fact so it's interesting to see D_S_I5WcnG8-02577-00588704-00588927 that the nut community and up D_S_I5WcnG8-02578-00588928-00589318 uh uh the the hindu nuts are uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02579-00589319-00589439 scheduled casts and they have been D_S_I5WcnG8-02580-00589440-00589639 categorized as shadulkas now not again D_S_I5WcnG8-02581-00589640-00589910 is a criminal tribe um which which has D_S_I5WcnG8-02582-00589911-00590039 been a community that has been D_S_I5WcnG8-02583-00590040-00590255 criminalized but they are uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02584-00590256-00590399 administratively categorized as D_S_I5WcnG8-02585-00590400-00590662 scheduled castes uh when uh if if you D_S_I5WcnG8-02586-00590663-00590855 are not hindu but if you are not muslim D_S_I5WcnG8-02587-00590856-00590935 then D_S_I5WcnG8-02588-00590936-00591191 you become obc right so when when we D_S_I5WcnG8-02589-00591192-00591447 when we have this sort of umbrella kind D_S_I5WcnG8-02590-00591448-00591631 of understanding of obcs which is D_S_I5WcnG8-02591-00591632-00591887 already in like this uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02592-00591888-00592127 you know um D_S_I5WcnG8-02593-00592128-00592414 such a complex category uh it does D_S_I5WcnG8-02594-00592415-00592631 create a disservice to extremely D_S_I5WcnG8-02595-00592632-00592822 extremely disenfranchised marginalized D_S_I5WcnG8-02596-00592823-00593127 communities um in fact communities like D_S_I5WcnG8-02597-00593128-00593335 farse pardee you know that that face the D_S_I5WcnG8-02598-00593336-00593575 worst kind of dis criminalization in the D_S_I5WcnG8-02599-00593576-00593727 worst live in the worst kind of D_S_I5WcnG8-02600-00593728-00594047 conditions if you go on all your um you D_S_I5WcnG8-02601-00594048-00594199 know traffic signals D_S_I5WcnG8-02602-00594200-00594414 in mumbai in pune you will see that you D_S_I5WcnG8-02603-00594415-00594670 will often see that most people on these D_S_I5WcnG8-02604-00594671-00594879 on these traffic signals are people from D_S_I5WcnG8-02605-00594880-00595151 party communities right and and they do D_S_I5WcnG8-02606-00595152-00595422 not have any kind of uh permanent D_S_I5WcnG8-02607-00595423-00595614 residence they do not have they live in D_S_I5WcnG8-02608-00595615-00595870 shanties uh they are completely D_S_I5WcnG8-02609-00595871-00596191 disenfranchised they are completely uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02610-00596192-00596359 you know out of your any understanding D_S_I5WcnG8-02611-00596360-00596535 of equal citizenship doesn't apply to D_S_I5WcnG8-02612-00596536-00596862 these communities um and when when you D_S_I5WcnG8-02613-00596863-00597039 when D_S_I5WcnG8-02614-00597040-00597303 i mean to me this idea of referring to D_S_I5WcnG8-02615-00597304-00597591 someone like faase vardi's uh that face D_S_I5WcnG8-02616-00597592-00597775 that kind of criminalization that face D_S_I5WcnG8-02617-00597776-00598103 that kind of um exclusion and D_S_I5WcnG8-02618-00598104-00598255 disenfranchisement D_S_I5WcnG8-02619-00598256-00598566 uh as dominant or as oppressor to me it D_S_I5WcnG8-02620-00598567-00598903 seems absurd D_S_I5WcnG8-02621-00598904-00599183 in the district of gopal parties are in D_S_I5WcnG8-02622-00599184-00599503 the general category which was in 2002 D_S_I5WcnG8-02623-00599504-00599695 as a result of what can only be D_S_I5WcnG8-02624-00599696-00599903 attributed to D_S_I5WcnG8-02625-00599904-00600118 a gross clerical error which hasn't been D_S_I5WcnG8-02626-00600119-00600383 fixed yet even after two decades they D_S_I5WcnG8-02627-00600384-00600559 were put in the general category and i D_S_I5WcnG8-02628-00600560-00600695 think D_S_I5WcnG8-02629-00600696-00600879 like if we were to go by statist D_S_I5WcnG8-02630-00600880-00601143 categories of understanding violence and D_S_I5WcnG8-02631-00601144-00601439 understanding oppression um D_S_I5WcnG8-02632-00601440-00601687 it's going to i mean we're going to fail D_S_I5WcnG8-02633-00601688-00601847 miserably because D_S_I5WcnG8-02634-00601848-00602103 these categories are ultimately designed D_S_I5WcnG8-02635-00602104-00602351 to not just over simplify D_S_I5WcnG8-02636-00602352-00602587 the idea of oppression and the idea of D_S_I5WcnG8-02637-00602588-00602775 marginalization but D_S_I5WcnG8-02638-00602776-00603031 also in so many ways invisibilize D_S_I5WcnG8-02639-00603032-00603166 different complexities of D_S_I5WcnG8-02640-00603167-00603399 marginalization right as disha pointed D_S_I5WcnG8-02641-00603400-00603607 out you know with the nut community uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02642-00603608-00603822 the hindus being in the scheduled D_S_I5WcnG8-02643-00603823-00604062 category and the muslims being D_S_I5WcnG8-02644-00604063-00604366 in the obc category and i think uh these D_S_I5WcnG8-02645-00604367-00604583 sort of status formulations D_S_I5WcnG8-02646-00604584-00604799 are ones that we have to be extremely D_S_I5WcnG8-02647-00604800-00605039 wary of uh in terms of understanding D_S_I5WcnG8-02648-00605040-00605231 oppression and understanding D_S_I5WcnG8-02649-00605232-00605551 how caste operation manifests itself D_S_I5WcnG8-02650-00605552-00605814 close for today then thank you so much D_S_I5WcnG8-02651-00605815-00605903 this D_S_I5WcnG8-02652-00605904-00606095 was a fascinating D_S_I5WcnG8-02653-00606096-00606303 uh discussion to say the least and i D_S_I5WcnG8-02654-00606304-00606495 think everybody who's been a part of D_S_I5WcnG8-02655-00606496-00606655 this conversation D_S_I5WcnG8-02656-00606656-00606983 uh is walking away with so much to think D_S_I5WcnG8-02657-00606984-00607214 about and hopefully the questions that D_S_I5WcnG8-02658-00607215-00607366 we ask about D_S_I5WcnG8-02659-00607367-00607655 uh questions about criminalization and D_S_I5WcnG8-02660-00607656-00607759 descent D_S_I5WcnG8-02661-00607760-00608079 will be more informed questions uh from D_S_I5WcnG8-02662-00608080-00608303 now on and also questions uh that are D_S_I5WcnG8-02663-00608304-00608591 more sort of acutely aware of the D_S_I5WcnG8-02664-00608592-00608759 contextual realities that we're D_S_I5WcnG8-02665-00608760-00608991 operating in um and D_S_I5WcnG8-02666-00608992-00609214 a big big thank you to the shah uh for D_S_I5WcnG8-02667-00609215-00609399 bringing it all together and curating it D_S_I5WcnG8-02668-00609400-00609566 so wonderfully in her comments i will D_S_I5WcnG8-02669-00609567-00609895 now invite uh rupali to offer uh the D_S_I5WcnG8-02670-00609896-00610095 vote of thanks uh thank you again D_S_I5WcnG8-02671-00610096-00610422 everyone thank you for the opportunity D_S_I5WcnG8-02672-00610423-00610679 and and and and just um rapalje before D_S_I5WcnG8-02673-00610680-00610935 you uh go i think um D_S_I5WcnG8-02674-00610936-00611199 thanks um dbav i have been associated D_S_I5WcnG8-02675-00611200-00611359 with this group for a really long time D_S_I5WcnG8-02676-00611360-00611662 and uh thanks rosa luxembourg foundation D_S_I5WcnG8-02677-00611663-00612007 for having me um and um thank you in D_S_I5WcnG8-02678-00612008-00612270 fact for um you know uh having this D_S_I5WcnG8-02679-00612271-00612527 session uh and organizing this session D_S_I5WcnG8-02680-00612528-00612751 with nikita i would really like to thank D_S_I5WcnG8-02681-00612752-00613031 nikita this uh has been an extremely D_S_I5WcnG8-02682-00613032-00613303 enriching uh session for me and uh a D_S_I5WcnG8-02683-00613304-00613510 very learning experience D_S_I5WcnG8-02684-00613511-00613783 uh so thanks uh and and a big thank you D_S_I5WcnG8-02685-00613784-00614199 to uh rupali and swati and uh for for uh D_S_I5WcnG8-02686-00614200-00614351 bringing out this this brilliant D_S_I5WcnG8-02687-00614352-00614655 initiative and uh you know ensuring that D_S_I5WcnG8-02688-00614656-00614935 uh you know these amazing conversations D_S_I5WcnG8-02689-00614936-00615022 happen D_S_I5WcnG8-02690-00615023-00615359 thank you 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DATuCQi8YM4-00018-00005511-00005717 and tell us your dream for your DATuCQi8YM4-00019-00005718-00005954 relationship and I'll see you here next DATuCQi8YM4-00020-00005955-00006248 week DBIWWUinCWI-00000-00000000-00000191 let's just go to that U.N security DBIWWUinCWI-00001-00000192-00000545 Council meeting I know that uh two two DBIWWUinCWI-00002-00000546-00000761 of the people that testified there DBIWWUinCWI-00003-00000762-00000899 they've both been on the show Rhema DBIWWUinCWI-00004-00000900-00001091 Governor Jeffrey Sachs I don't know what DBIWWUinCWI-00005-00001092-00001312 you thought if you heard the under DBIWWUinCWI-00006-00001313-00001481 Secretary General appointed by Antonio DBIWWUinCWI-00007-00001482-00001709 Gutierrez the U.N Secretary General DBIWWUinCWI-00008-00001710-00001930 Rosemary DeCarlo appointed by this this DBIWWUinCWI-00009-00001932-00002176 Antonio Gutierrez said the U.N is in no DBIWWUinCWI-00010-00002177-00002321 position to investigate this is because DBIWWUinCWI-00011-00002322-00002489 there are doubts over the investigations DBIWWUinCWI-00012-00002490-00002879 currently being conducted by the Swedish DBIWWUinCWI-00013-00002880-00003142 uh Danish and German governments into DBIWWUinCWI-00014-00003143-00003485 the north stream catastrophe and she DBIWWUinCWI-00015-00003486-00003838 said uh she also said she was Unleashed DBIWWUinCWI-00016-00003839-00003995 by the invasion of Ukraine and we should DBIWWUinCWI-00017-00003996-00004272 avoid any unfounded accusations as if DBIWWUinCWI-00018-00004273-00004517 kind of backing up some of the security DBIWWUinCWI-00019-00004518-00004679 Council permanent members I don't know DBIWWUinCWI-00020-00004680-00004925 what you thought of Britain's Envoy a DBIWWUinCWI-00021-00004926-00005243 single Source journalism debunked I mean DBIWWUinCWI-00022-00005244-00005479 I don't know what you thought of that DBIWWUinCWI-00023-00005480-00005818 well let me tell you something I I DBIWWUinCWI-00024-00005819-00005986 didn't follow it that closely I read an DBIWWUinCWI-00025-00005987-00006154 article about it today and I did hear DBIWWUinCWI-00026-00006155-00006418 about what the uh the Brit said the DBIWWUinCWI-00027-00006419-00006778 Britain uh Diplomat said in America the DBIWWUinCWI-00028-00006779-00006917 president has something called an DBIWWUinCWI-00029-00006918-00007103 immense power on the intelligence DBIWWUinCWI-00030-00007104-00007306 Community you can give what they call a DBIWWUinCWI-00031-00007308-00007553 tasking order to the community he can DBIWWUinCWI-00032-00007554-00007846 say to the the the the the intelligence DBIWWUinCWI-00033-00007847-00008039 office we have something called the Oni DBIWWUinCWI-00034-00008040-00008213 office of National Intelligence which is DBIWWUinCWI-00035-00008214-00008410 with the supreme commander of all DBIWWUinCWI-00036-00008411-00008555 intelligence assets including the DBIWWUinCWI-00037-00008556-00008795 military and they have a intelligence DBIWWUinCWI-00038-00008796-00009005 office he could ask them for a complete DBIWWUinCWI-00039-00009006-00009274 all source to get access to signals DBIWWUinCWI-00040-00009275-00009527 intelligence Etc he could also ask the DBIWWUinCWI-00041-00009528-00009719 CIA directly because they have it until DBIWWUinCWI-00042-00009720-00009917 versions of a division that does its own DBIWWUinCWI-00043-00009918-00010159 work there's also a special little black DBIWWUinCWI-00044-00010160-00010391 intelligence operation for the covert DBIWWUinCWI-00045-00010392-00010624 forces the operations we have there's DBIWWUinCWI-00046-00010625-00010781 three large intelligence or DBIWWUinCWI-00047-00010782-00011021 organizations that have the capacity DBIWWUinCWI-00048-00011022-00011255 capacity to get access to all DBIWWUinCWI-00049-00011256-00011578 and he has not issued one order he's not DBIWWUinCWI-00050-00011579-00011909 asked for any any evaluations Jake DBIWWUinCWI-00051-00011910-00012155 Sullivan the the um the guy who had a DBIWWUinCWI-00052-00012156-00012305 lot to do with organizing the the DBIWWUinCWI-00053-00012306-00012617 initial the initial operation he was the DBIWWUinCWI-00054-00012618-00012749 National Security advisor he had a news DBIWWUinCWI-00055-00012750-00012929 conference just in which he said well DBIWWUinCWI-00056-00012930-00013127 we're having our allies look at it and DBIWWUinCWI-00057-00013128-00013247 he mentioned that he didn't talk about DBIWWUinCWI-00058-00013247-00013499 his own American investigation the DBIWWUinCWI-00059-00013500-00013649 swedes and the Danes did do an DBIWWUinCWI-00060-00013650-00013871 investigation in September and October DBIWWUinCWI-00061-00013872-00014069 they came out with this astonishing DBIWWUinCWI-00062-00014069-00014285 conclusion that indeed something had DBIWWUinCWI-00063-00014286-00014453 been something happened under the water DBIWWUinCWI-00064-00014454-00014794 and this white house has no not only no DBIWWUinCWI-00065-00014795-00015058 incentive to investigate the story they DBIWWUinCWI-00066-00015059-00015322 have no incentive to ever to ever deny DBIWWUinCWI-00067-00015323-00015629 it I mean look what they did in late DBIWWUinCWI-00068-00015630-00015922 September of of uh last year what you DBIWWUinCWI-00069-00015923-00016157 know how many five months ago uh they DBIWWUinCWI-00070-00016158-00016372 they they had they could have blown it DBIWWUinCWI-00071-00016373-00016643 up anytime from you know the I wrote DBIWWUinCWI-00072-00016644-00016835 about operations in Norway and all that DBIWWUinCWI-00073-00016836-00017093 that those earlier stories I wrote about DBIWWUinCWI-00074-00017094-00017327 a lot of detail about it DBIWWUinCWI-00075-00017328-00017591 um and uh an awful lot of detail DBIWWUinCWI-00076-00017592-00017849 including stuff uh inside some of the DBIWWUinCWI-00077-00017850-00017999 White House meetings so 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articles citing sources and using DCG13WDUBH8-00070-00015926-00016228 your sources effectively that's a quick DCG13WDUBH8-00071-00016229-00016419 summary of library options for online DCG13WDUBH8-00072-00016420-00016660 students if you have any questions or DCG13WDUBH8-00073-00016661-00017035 want more details ask us at library WCA DCG13WDUBH8-00074-00017036-00017404 slash help slash ask us DE6tKYJx7C0-00000-00000006-00000698 you MA hello my name's Wally Bell I'm an DE6tKYJx7C0-00001-00000699-00001000 honorable man you might have noticed I DE6tKYJx7C0-00002-00001001-00001183 pronounced it quite differently to DE6tKYJx7C0-00003-00001184-00001904 everybody else I say it the right way as DE6tKYJx7C0-00004-00001905-00002309 I can work out then I'm an elder of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00005-00002310-00002507 new normal people DE6tKYJx7C0-00006-00002508-00002833 my clan group the yar people we have DE6tKYJx7C0-00007-00002834-00003263 seven different clans my clan group come DE6tKYJx7C0-00008-00003264-00003502 from a place they now call yes DE6tKYJx7C0-00009-00003503-00003838 so I actually grew up just outside yes DE6tKYJx7C0-00010-00003839-00004120 in a little place called Jarawa our word DE6tKYJx7C0-00011-00004121-00004531 for running water it's out on that place DE6tKYJx7C0-00012-00004532-00004688 that I learned about being an Aboriginal DE6tKYJx7C0-00013-00004689-00004952 person as is our traditional customary DE6tKYJx7C0-00014-00004953-00005227 practice my father took me out onto the DE6tKYJx7C0-00015-00005228-00005552 land and taught me all about the land DE6tKYJx7C0-00016-00005553-00005854 itself how to survive on the country DE6tKYJx7C0-00017-00005855-00006145 learned all about Bush foods Bush DE6tKYJx7C0-00018-00006146-00006411 medicines sourcing food sourcing water DE6tKYJx7C0-00019-00006412-00006920 basic survival on country that knowledge DE6tKYJx7C0-00020-00006920-00007376 I carry with me still to this day as DE6tKYJx7C0-00021-00007377-00007728 Aboriginal people we gain all their DE6tKYJx7C0-00022-00007729-00007988 customs and belief systems from the land DE6tKYJx7C0-00023-00007989-00008531 that we live in our culture and practice DE6tKYJx7C0-00024-00008532-00008708 is quite different right across the DE6tKYJx7C0-00025-00008709-00009078 country as I just said we get our DE6tKYJx7C0-00026-00009079-00009310 customs and belief systems from the land DE6tKYJx7C0-00027-00009311-00009485 that we live in when you look at DE6tKYJx7C0-00028-00009486-00009739 Australia there's over 400 different DE6tKYJx7C0-00029-00009740-00010019 tribal groups living in totally DE6tKYJx7C0-00030-00010020-00010267 different environments so we're going to DE6tKYJx7C0-00031-00010268-00010489 have totally different cultural practice DE6tKYJx7C0-00032-00010490-00010867 and that's something that governments DE6tKYJx7C0-00033-00010868-00011356 really find hard to comprehend everybody DE6tKYJx7C0-00034-00011357-00011552 seems to think that our cultural DE6tKYJx7C0-00035-00011553-00011753 practice is one and the same and it's DE6tKYJx7C0-00036-00011754-00012494 not so we have probably what I'd like to DE6tKYJx7C0-00037-00012495-00012860 call a communal law you'll aw law now DE6tKYJx7C0-00038-00012861-00013146 that allows us to live then as DE6tKYJx7C0-00039-00013147-00013635 separate Klan grips on country we always DE6tKYJx7C0-00040-00013636-00013896 live in total harmony because we look DE6tKYJx7C0-00041-00013897-00014003 out for each other DE6tKYJx7C0-00042-00014004-00014235 but we also look after the place that DE6tKYJx7C0-00043-00014236-00014880 we're in the other part of that is that DE6tKYJx7C0-00044-00014881-00015155 we also have traditional customary law DE6tKYJx7C0-00045-00015156-00015531 that's the lor really part of it now DE6tKYJx7C0-00046-00015532-00015726 right across Australia every Aboriginal DE6tKYJx7C0-00047-00015727-00016169 tribal group abides by that law that law DE6tKYJx7C0-00048-00016171-00016341 tells us what we have to do as DE6tKYJx7C0-00049-00016341-00016667 Aboriginal people on country that law DE6tKYJx7C0-00050-00016668-00017273 must be adhered to if you break that law DE6tKYJx7C0-00051-00017274-00017781 you're severely punished some of that DE6tKYJx7C0-00052-00017782-00018015 law then relates to what I'm here for DE6tKYJx7C0-00053-00018016-00018084 today DE6tKYJx7C0-00054-00018085-00018521 I'm gonna do a welcome to country DE6tKYJx7C0-00055-00018522-00018816 welcome to country then he's not as DE6tKYJx7C0-00056-00018817-00019134 simple as most people think it's just DE6tKYJx7C0-00057-00019135-00019329 not me as an elder standing here in DE6tKYJx7C0-00058-00019330-00019584 front of you saying welcome to country DE6tKYJx7C0-00059-00019585-00019913 and enjoy your stay while you're here DE6tKYJx7C0-00060-00019914-00020388 under our law we are bound to make sure DE6tKYJx7C0-00061-00020389-00020679 that visitors to our country are safe DE6tKYJx7C0-00062-00020680-00021081 and protected while they're here that DE6tKYJx7C0-00063-00021082-00021231 means that we have to look after you in DE6tKYJx7C0-00064-00021232-00021663 two ways we offer up a protection in a DE6tKYJx7C0-00065-00021664-00022005 physical sense and we also offer up a DE6tKYJx7C0-00066-00022006-00022299 protection in the spiritual sense now DE6tKYJx7C0-00067-00022300-00022455 the physical protections going to be DE6tKYJx7C0-00068-00022456-00022790 taken care of by our spirit of the land DE6tKYJx7C0-00069-00022791-00023037 which means that as you walk around on DE6tKYJx7C0-00070-00023038-00023289 country actually treading foot on the DE6tKYJx7C0-00071-00023290-00023574 land itself the spirit of the land is DE6tKYJx7C0-00072-00023575-00023807 going to look after you make sure that DE6tKYJx7C0-00073-00023808-00024066 you don't have any trips and falls and DE6tKYJx7C0-00074-00024067-00024213 you know break a leg or something like DE6tKYJx7C0-00075-00024214-00024322 that DE6tKYJx7C0-00076-00024323-00024494 something we don't want to happen DE6tKYJx7C0-00077-00024495-00024627 because that will reflect on us very DE6tKYJx7C0-00078-00024628-00024675 badly DE6tKYJx7C0-00079-00024676-00025092 as the host people's the spiritual DE6tKYJx7C0-00080-00025093-00025227 protection that we're offering up is DE6tKYJx7C0-00081-00025228-00025446 going to be taken care of by our DE6tKYJx7C0-00082-00025447-00025797 ancestral spirits now our ancestral DE6tKYJx7C0-00083-00025798-00026009 spirits and if you don't know what I'm DE6tKYJx7C0-00084-00026010-00026289 talking about is our past generations DE6tKYJx7C0-00085-00026289-00026479 that have returned to the land DE6tKYJx7C0-00086-00026480-00026849 because as Aboriginal people we our DE6tKYJx7C0-00087-00026850-00027002 strongest belief is that we actually DE6tKYJx7C0-00088-00027002-00027317 come from the land itself we're here for DE6tKYJx7C0-00089-00027318-00027554 a little while in which time we look DE6tKYJx7C0-00090-00027555-00027719 after this place take care of it we DE6tKYJx7C0-00091-00027720-00028022 become the custodians of the land the DE6tKYJx7C0-00092-00028023-00028258 carers of the country and then when our DE6tKYJx7C0-00093-00028260-00028481 time is up we then return back to the DE6tKYJx7C0-00094-00028482-00029105 land where we come from that's where we DE6tKYJx7C0-00095-00029106-00029672 call this place their belonging place so DE6tKYJx7C0-00096-00029673-00029948 the ancestral spirits in they're going DE6tKYJx7C0-00097-00029949-00030173 to look after you like it said in a DE6tKYJx7C0-00098-00030174-00030347 spiritual sense because everybody in DE6tKYJx7C0-00099-00030348-00030602 this room carries your own personal DE6tKYJx7C0-00100-00030602-00030939 order or our rights throughout your life DE6tKYJx7C0-00101-00030941-00031280 unknown to you under our belief systems DE6tKYJx7C0-00102-00031281-00031612 there's bad spirit out there as well and DE6tKYJx7C0-00103-00031613-00031808 that's the stuff we don't want on DE6tKYJx7C0-00104-00031808-00031985 country because that's not only going to DE6tKYJx7C0-00105-00031986-00032198 affect you as a person but it does DE6tKYJx7C0-00106-00032199-00032642 affect country as well so our ancestral DE6tKYJx7C0-00107-00032643-00032984 spirits are asked to remove that the way DE6tKYJx7C0-00108-00032985-00033233 that I get the spirits to join us though DE6tKYJx7C0-00109-00033234-00033437 is that I've got to make a little bit of DE6tKYJx7C0-00110-00033438-00033620 noise to let them know where I am DE6tKYJx7C0-00111-00033621-00033914 and and call for them to draw them into DE6tKYJx7C0-00112-00033915-00034382 me I do that by the use of my clap DE6tKYJx7C0-00113-00034383-00034721 sticks gotta bear with me for a minute I DE6tKYJx7C0-00115-00039381-00039632 [Music] DE6tKYJx7C0-00116-00039633-00040152 yay DE6tKYJx7C0-00117-00040153-00041305 [Music] DE6tKYJx7C0-00118-00041306-00042143 buddy buddy buddy buddy buddy DE6tKYJx7C0-00119-00042144-00043462 oh yeah huh I have a real strong DE6tKYJx7C0-00120-00043463-00043610 connection with country because I'm out DE6tKYJx7C0-00121-00043611-00043751 there looking after it all the time DE6tKYJx7C0-00122-00043752-00043976 I can actually feel the presence is I DE6tKYJx7C0-00123-00043977-00044501 spirits with us very strong hopefully DE6tKYJx7C0-00124-00044502-00044735 you can feel that presence as well I'd DE6tKYJx7C0-00125-00044736-00044882 really like for you to try and feel DE6tKYJx7C0-00126-00044883-00045431 their presence okay so like I said then DE6tKYJx7C0-00127-00045432-00045565 the spirit of the land it's gonna look DE6tKYJx7C0-00128-00045566-00045710 after you as you're walking around on DE6tKYJx7C0-00129-00045711-00046051 country protect you as best it can DE6tKYJx7C0-00130-00046052-00046312 people do silly stuff out on country but DE6tKYJx7C0-00131-00046313-00046859 you know that's up to you the ancestral DE6tKYJx7C0-00132-00046860-00047009 spirits at this very moment then a going DE6tKYJx7C0-00133-00047010-00047218 around everybody here checking you out DE6tKYJx7C0-00134-00047219-00047414 your personal auras looking for bad DE6tKYJx7C0-00135-00047415-00047702 spirit because that bad spirit you can't DE6tKYJx7C0-00136-00047703-00048121 see it you can't touch it but it's there DE6tKYJx7C0-00137-00048122-00048398 but the ancestral spirits know what it DE6tKYJx7C0-00138-00048399-00048733 is they if they find that stuff they DE6tKYJx7C0-00139-00048734-00049033 just grab ahold of it it's rolled off DE6tKYJx7C0-00140-00049034-00049436 country something we don't want here now DE6tKYJx7C0-00141-00049437-00049802 of course we're bound by other tribal DE6tKYJx7C0-00142-00049803-00050212 groups as well so the downside of that DE6tKYJx7C0-00143-00050213-00050377 is we're checking that bad stuff over DE6tKYJx7C0-00144-00050378-00050774 onto their country and well yeah I'll DE6tKYJx7C0-00145-00050775-00051096 have to take care of that business DE6tKYJx7C0-00146-00051097-00051421 okay so then as I said the spirit DE6tKYJx7C0-00147-00051422-00051560 islands kind of look after user walking DE6tKYJx7C0-00148-00051561-00051638 around a country DE6tKYJx7C0-00149-00051639-00051946 ancestral spirits have now looked at DE6tKYJx7C0-00150-00051947-00052262 yours and I ask that you do two things DE6tKYJx7C0-00151-00052263-00052576 while you're here on country the first DE6tKYJx7C0-00152-00052577-00052954 one a really important one is to respect DE6tKYJx7C0-00153-00052955-00053353 this place that you're in look after it DE6tKYJx7C0-00154-00053354-00053696 care for it while you're here as we have DE6tKYJx7C0-00155-00053697-00054134 done for thousands of years the other DE6tKYJx7C0-00156-00054135-00054314 thing they want you to do is also to DE6tKYJx7C0-00157-00054315-00054544 respect and be kind and courteous to DE6tKYJx7C0-00158-00054545-00054691 other people that you meet while you're DE6tKYJx7C0-00159-00054692-00055016 on country so if you do these two things DE6tKYJx7C0-00160-00055016-00055330 for us the spirits will harmonize with DE6tKYJx7C0-00161-00055332-00055460 your stay on DE6tKYJx7C0-00162-00055461-00055804 country so may the spirits be with you DE6tKYJx7C0-00163-00055805-00056392 today tomorrow and for always and by DE6tKYJx7C0-00164-00056394-00056684 always I mean that even if you step off DE6tKYJx7C0-00165-00056685-00056926 Ngunnawal country the moment you put DE6tKYJx7C0-00166-00056927-00057149 foot back on country now that the DE6tKYJx7C0-00167-00057150-00057338 spirits have seen you that will look DE6tKYJx7C0-00168-00057339-00057742 after you on your return I'll close with DE6tKYJx7C0-00169-00057744-00058238 some words in in language dalawa na na DE6tKYJx7C0-00170-00058239-00058838 da na na no worry Yama Lundy this land DE6tKYJx7C0-00171-00058839-00059410 is no no Earl and welcome thank you DE6tKYJx7C0-00172-00059411-00060698 [Applause] DE6tKYJx7C0-00173-00060699-00062136 [Applause] DE6tKYJx7C0-00174-00062137-00062440 Chancellor colleagues students and DE6tKYJx7C0-00175-00062441-00062854 friends of a and you Wally Bell I to DE6tKYJx7C0-00176-00062854-00063069 begin by acknowledging the first DE6tKYJx7C0-00177-00063070-00063324 Australians on whose lands we meet that DE6tKYJx7C0-00178-00063325-00063565 none ambery people's and pay my respects DE6tKYJx7C0-00179-00063566-00063963 to elder's past and present and uncle DE6tKYJx7C0-00180-00063964-00064204 Wally thank you for welcoming us so DE6tKYJx7C0-00181-00064204-00064435 warmly to these lands where your DE6tKYJx7C0-00182-00064436-00064713 ancestors have met for thousands of DE6tKYJx7C0-00183-00064714-00065098 years it is an honor to meet here and to DE6tKYJx7C0-00184-00065099-00065404 reminded that our campus this great DE6tKYJx7C0-00185-00065404-00065598 place of learning stands on the land DE6tKYJx7C0-00186-00065599-00065844 where hundreds of generations of DE6tKYJx7C0-00187-00065845-00066148 Indigenous Australians learned from each DE6tKYJx7C0-00188-00066149-00066535 other before I talk about the state of DE6tKYJx7C0-00189-00066536-00066721 the university I want to spend a moment DE6tKYJx7C0-00190-00066722-00066961 talking about the state of the world DE6tKYJx7C0-00191-00066962-00067315 around us so far it has been an DE6tKYJx7C0-00192-00067316-00067632 exceptionally difficult summer of flame DE6tKYJx7C0-00193-00067633-00067921 and fear of hailstones and health DE6tKYJx7C0-00194-00067922-00068224 warnings smoke from bush fires has DE6tKYJx7C0-00195-00068225-00068499 polluted our air for weeks and in the DE6tKYJx7C0-00196-00068500-00068911 past week the fires reached our city our DE6tKYJx7C0-00197-00068912-00069156 normally lively campus has been closed DE6tKYJx7C0-00198-00069157-00069436 multiple times and our Australian summer DE6tKYJx7C0-00199-00069437-00069748 has been spent indoors sheltering from DE6tKYJx7C0-00200-00069749-00070084 the heat and the smoke and then came the DE6tKYJx7C0-00201-00070085-00070366 ice and the incredible hailstorm that DE6tKYJx7C0-00202-00070367-00070650 impacted our wildlife and dented and DE6tKYJx7C0-00203-00070651-00070875 destroyed our Roos or windows our DE6tKYJx7C0-00204-00070876-00071284 facilities and our cars through both the DE6tKYJx7C0-00205-00071285-00071517 hail and the haze the thing that shone DE6tKYJx7C0-00206-00071518-00071862 out was the resilience of our community DE6tKYJx7C0-00207-00071863-00072192 and I pay tribute today to the dedicated DE6tKYJx7C0-00208-00072193-00072486 staff from across Anu who have kept us DE6tKYJx7C0-00209-00072487-00072829 safe monitored threats provided advice DE6tKYJx7C0-00210-00072830-00073147 and repair damage and I thank every DE6tKYJx7C0-00211-00073148-00073443 member of staff who supported a DE6tKYJx7C0-00212-00073444-00073753 colleague or a friend who was doing it DE6tKYJx7C0-00213-00073754-00074104 tougher than them so I want to start by DE6tKYJx7C0-00214-00074105-00074394 giving each of ourselves and each of DE6tKYJx7C0-00215-00074395-00074596 these people who have contributed a DE6tKYJx7C0-00216-00074597-00076136 round of applause DE6tKYJx7C0-00217-00076137-00076461 thank you one and all our community is DE6tKYJx7C0-00218-00076462-00076782 never stronger nor kinder than when DE6tKYJx7C0-00219-00076783-00076950 we're dealing with incidents like those DE6tKYJx7C0-00220-00076951-00077209 that have given 20/20 such a dramatic DE6tKYJx7C0-00221-00077210-00077409 dramatic and terrible start DE6tKYJx7C0-00222-00077410-00077697 and as uncle Wally's present here DE6tKYJx7C0-00223-00077698-00077976 presence here reminds us finding a way DE6tKYJx7C0-00224-00077977-00078243 to thrive and prosper in the hostility DE6tKYJx7C0-00225-00078244-00078441 of Australia's natural environment is DE6tKYJx7C0-00226-00078442-00078843 the legacy too often ignored of 60,000 DE6tKYJx7C0-00227-00078844-00079147 years of Aboriginal culture and it is a DE6tKYJx7C0-00228-00079148-00079497 legacy we must do more to harness in DE6tKYJx7C0-00229-00079498-00079791 2020 we are faced here in Australia with DE6tKYJx7C0-00230-00079792-00079956 some of the most significant challenges DE6tKYJx7C0-00231-00079957-00080253 of climate chain change yet seen on the DE6tKYJx7C0-00232-00080254-00080499 planet and we have an emerging threat of DE6tKYJx7C0-00233-00080500-00080691 a pandemic that is already affecting DE6tKYJx7C0-00234-00080692-00080967 many of our students but also our staff DE6tKYJx7C0-00235-00080968-00081306 and our alumni it is restricted to DE6tKYJx7C0-00236-00081307-00081522 travel of the many outstanding students DE6tKYJx7C0-00237-00081523-00081705 who would otherwise have been getting DE6tKYJx7C0-00238-00081706-00081891 ready to come to Canberra if they were DE6tKYJx7C0-00239-00081892-00082176 not already here I want you to look DE6tKYJx7C0-00240-00082177-00082536 around in our auditorium you don't know DE6tKYJx7C0-00241-00082537-00082737 today if the colleagues nearby have DE6tKYJx7C0-00242-00082738-00083037 recently been in Balmain Ballarat or DE6tKYJx7C0-00243-00083038-00083382 Beijing I am a world expert in cosmology DE6tKYJx7C0-00244-00083383-00083757 but I am looking to the world leading DE6tKYJx7C0-00245-00083758-00084048 Australian health authorities to give us DE6tKYJx7C0-00246-00084049-00084462 advice that will keep us safe I ask you DE6tKYJx7C0-00247-00084463-00084666 to trust these authority as we ask DE6tKYJx7C0-00248-00084667-00085023 people to trust in our expertise every DE6tKYJx7C0-00249-00085024-00085335 day we don't yet fully know the DE6tKYJx7C0-00250-00085336-00085524 consequences of coronavirus on our DE6tKYJx7C0-00251-00085525-00085803 community but let's always remember that DE6tKYJx7C0-00252-00085804-00086043 there are people at the heart of this DE6tKYJx7C0-00253-00086044-00086284 and let's resolve to show the same DE6tKYJx7C0-00254-00086285-00086586 resilience the same care and the same DE6tKYJx7C0-00255-00086587-00086746 kindness that has brought us through the DE6tKYJx7C0-00256-00086747-00086985 challenges nature has thrown us over the DE6tKYJx7C0-00257-00086986-00087346 past six weeks we can only do this by DE6tKYJx7C0-00258-00087347-00087555 being rational and listening to DE6tKYJx7C0-00259-00087556-00087966 Australia's public health experts when DE6tKYJx7C0-00260-00087967-00088159 we're surrounded by the urgent by DE6tKYJx7C0-00261-00088160-00088407 critical incidents and distress it DE6tKYJx7C0-00262-00088408-00088644 becomes even harder to step back and DE6tKYJx7C0-00263-00088645-00089013 think big but that is what I want us now DE6tKYJx7C0-00264-00089014-00089380 to do today our university is that DE6tKYJx7C0-00265-00089381-00089605 inflection point at the start of a new DE6tKYJx7C0-00266-00089606-00089926 decade with the new chancellor and a DE6tKYJx7C0-00267-00089927-00090208 vice-chancellor that's me who will be DE6tKYJx7C0-00268-00090209-00090625 seeking his second term next week so DE6tKYJx7C0-00269-00090626-00090811 someone else is giving this lecture or DE6tKYJx7C0-00270-00090812-00090994 that's address next year you'll know my DE6tKYJx7C0-00271-00090995-00091594 meeting didn't go quite as planned 2020 DE6tKYJx7C0-00272-00091595-00091837 our strategic plan is now in its latter DE6tKYJx7C0-00273-00091838-00092068 stages and I'm starting to think about DE6tKYJx7C0-00274-00092069-00092376 what a and you might look like look like DE6tKYJx7C0-00275-00092377-00092751 at the end of my second term in other DE6tKYJx7C0-00276-00092752-00093001 words what do I want this great DE6tKYJx7C0-00277-00093002-00093298 Australian University to be and what DE6tKYJx7C0-00278-00093299-00093631 must we do to get it there and I DE6tKYJx7C0-00279-00093632-00093967 encourage each of you to ask yourself DE6tKYJx7C0-00280-00093968-00094360 that same question let's start with the DE6tKYJx7C0-00281-00094361-00094621 fundamentals what defines this as a DE6tKYJx7C0-00282-00094622-00094951 university and as our national DE6tKYJx7C0-00283-00094952-00095230 university let's not focus on parking DE6tKYJx7C0-00284-00095231-00095751 for the moment for me the thing that DE6tKYJx7C0-00285-00095752-00096332 defines an you is ultimately trust since DE6tKYJx7C0-00286-00096333-00096595 1946 we have placed integrity and DE6tKYJx7C0-00287-00096596-00096877 quality at the heart of everything we do DE6tKYJx7C0-00288-00096878-00097228 and that must never change that approach DE6tKYJx7C0-00289-00097229-00097429 is one it's the trust of Australia of DE6tKYJx7C0-00290-00097430-00097699 the students who study with us of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00291-00097700-00098007 staff who make their careers here of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00292-00098008-00098386 policy makers who listen to our ideas to DE6tKYJx7C0-00293-00098387-00098575 the philanthropists who donate to us to DE6tKYJx7C0-00294-00098576-00098785 make the world a better place the DE6tKYJx7C0-00295-00098786-00099030 businesses that employ our graduates and DE6tKYJx7C0-00296-00099031-00099409 ultimately society that relies on our DE6tKYJx7C0-00297-00099410-00099719 research findings and believes in them DE6tKYJx7C0-00298-00099720-00100003 our own social research centers findings DE6tKYJx7C0-00299-00100004-00100303 showed that almost 80% of people across DE6tKYJx7C0-00300-00100304-00100765 Australia trust a and you well trust in DE6tKYJx7C0-00301-00100766-00101053 for example another pillar of our DE6tKYJx7C0-00302-00101054-00101523 democracy the media is that around 20% DE6tKYJx7C0-00303-00101524-00101887 so we're in a good place but that trust DE6tKYJx7C0-00304-00101888-00102372 in an you cannot be taken for granted I DE6tKYJx7C0-00305-00102373-00102688 welcome the hired standards to which we DE6tKYJx7C0-00306-00102689-00102753 are held DE6tKYJx7C0-00307-00102754-00103031 because that is ultimately the seal of DE6tKYJx7C0-00308-00103032-00103515 trust which empowers us it's why we met DE6tKYJx7C0-00309-00103516-00103815 head-on disturbing the the disturbing DE6tKYJx7C0-00310-00103816-00104130 reality of being data hacked late last DE6tKYJx7C0-00311-00104131-00104424 year our approach was to speak openly DE6tKYJx7C0-00312-00104425-00104814 about it with brutal transparency to DE6tKYJx7C0-00313-00104815-00105008 level with our community about the scale DE6tKYJx7C0-00314-00105009-00105252 of the data breach and the implications DE6tKYJx7C0-00315-00105253-00105584 for individuals security and to develop DE6tKYJx7C0-00316-00105585-00105804 sector leading protections now to help DE6tKYJx7C0-00317-00105805-00106065 stop future intrusions that might DE6tKYJx7C0-00318-00106066-00106305 undermine our academic freedom or the DE6tKYJx7C0-00319-00106306-00106569 safety of members of our staff and DE6tKYJx7C0-00320-00106570-00106998 students Trust is our currency and DE6tKYJx7C0-00321-00106999-00107226 having worked hard to earn it we must DE6tKYJx7C0-00322-00107227-00107607 work just as hard to keep it and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00323-00107608-00107891 only way to keep it is to invest in and DE6tKYJx7C0-00324-00107892-00108425 insist on excellence in everything we do DE6tKYJx7C0-00325-00108426-00108683 and when you interact with our students DE6tKYJx7C0-00326-00108683-00108942 you will know that many of them DE6tKYJx7C0-00327-00108943-00109283 exemplify excellence they are impressive DE6tKYJx7C0-00328-00109284-00109535 intellects their worldly they are great DE6tKYJx7C0-00329-00109536-00109760 at solving problems thinking differently DE6tKYJx7C0-00330-00109761-00110046 and challenging us and the world around DE6tKYJx7C0-00331-00110047-00110514 them to do better last year three of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00332-00110515-00110697 nine Australian Road scholarships went DE6tKYJx7C0-00333-00110698-00110913 to Anu students who will now head to the DE6tKYJx7C0-00334-00110914-00111192 University of Oxford this is a great DE6tKYJx7C0-00335-00111193-00111420 symbol of the quality of our student DE6tKYJx7C0-00336-00111421-00111710 cohort and we are privileged to attract DE6tKYJx7C0-00337-00111711-00111959 such fine young leaders to our campus DE6tKYJx7C0-00338-00111960-00112269 and we must remember that this campus DE6tKYJx7C0-00339-00112270-00112658 our workplace is also their home making DE6tKYJx7C0-00340-00112659-00112934 us unique amongst Australian research DE6tKYJx7C0-00341-00112935-00113238 intensive universities those students DE6tKYJx7C0-00342-00113239-00113445 and their families and friends trust us DE6tKYJx7C0-00343-00113446-00113676 to provide a learning environment that DE6tKYJx7C0-00344-00113677-00113952 is challenging stimulating and cutting DE6tKYJx7C0-00345-00113953-00114291 edge and a home that is safe welcoming DE6tKYJx7C0-00346-00114292-00114657 and inclusive I will not be satisfied DE6tKYJx7C0-00347-00114658-00114968 with simply meeting their expectation I DE6tKYJx7C0-00348-00114969-00115274 am setting the University this goal DE6tKYJx7C0-00349-00115275-00115563 delivering a student experience that is DE6tKYJx7C0-00350-00115564-00115853 as good as the best in the world DE6tKYJx7C0-00351-00115854-00116109 many Anu students travel DE6tKYJx7C0-00352-00116110-00116433 across Australia and around the world to DE6tKYJx7C0-00353-00116434-00116758 a new campus in an unfamiliar city they DE6tKYJx7C0-00354-00116758-00117019 have chosen to spend one of the most DE6tKYJx7C0-00355-00117020-00117351 valuable times of their lives with us DE6tKYJx7C0-00356-00117352-00117628 and you will be their University DE6tKYJx7C0-00357-00117629-00117972 possibly the only one they ever study at DE6tKYJx7C0-00358-00117973-00118225 how do we validate the trust they have DE6tKYJx7C0-00359-00118226-00118597 shown us well by providing the very best DE6tKYJx7C0-00360-00118598-00118883 experience we can and by recognizing DE6tKYJx7C0-00361-00118884-00119281 that each of us whether an early career DE6tKYJx7C0-00362-00119282-00119503 researcher a professional staff member DE6tKYJx7C0-00363-00119504-00119829 or a distinguished professor each of us DE6tKYJx7C0-00364-00119830-00120049 have a part to play in making that DE6tKYJx7C0-00365-00120050-00120318 experience among the best available DE6tKYJx7C0-00366-00120319-00120690 anywhere in the world now we're honest DE6tKYJx7C0-00367-00120691-00120990 with ourselves we have a way to go DE6tKYJx7C0-00368-00120991-00121402 before we meet that standard let's ask DE6tKYJx7C0-00369-00121403-00121663 ourselves some important questions when DE6tKYJx7C0-00370-00121664-00121921 a student is considering joining us are DE6tKYJx7C0-00371-00121922-00122143 we always welcoming friendly and DE6tKYJx7C0-00372-00122144-00122398 informative is our information DE6tKYJx7C0-00373-00122399-00122803 accessible and timely are we responsive DE6tKYJx7C0-00374-00122804-00123236 to queries & feedback do we offer DE6tKYJx7C0-00375-00123238-00123463 distinctive programs that stand out for DE6tKYJx7C0-00376-00123464-00123625 their quality their flexibility and DE6tKYJx7C0-00377-00123626-00123844 their rigor do our facilities both DE6tKYJx7C0-00378-00123845-00124035 physical and digital meet our DE6tKYJx7C0-00379-00124036-00124396 world-class ambitions do we give every DE6tKYJx7C0-00380-00124397-00124584 one of our students what they need to DE6tKYJx7C0-00381-00124585-00124957 succeed if we don't do all of these DE6tKYJx7C0-00382-00124958-00125251 things and do them better than any other DE6tKYJx7C0-00383-00125252-00125565 University in Australia we are not the DE6tKYJx7C0-00384-00125566-00125790 National University we strive to be and DE6tKYJx7C0-00385-00125791-00126046 we can't be sure we are finding the best DE6tKYJx7C0-00386-00126047-00126308 students from every walk of life and DE6tKYJx7C0-00387-00126309-00126589 graduating these students as leaders DE6tKYJx7C0-00388-00126590-00126889 whose enquiring minds sharp intellects DE6tKYJx7C0-00389-00126890-00127123 and contemporary skillsets will inspire DE6tKYJx7C0-00390-00127124-00127509 employers and colleagues while being the DE6tKYJx7C0-00391-00127510-00127840 catalyst of their ability to change the DE6tKYJx7C0-00392-00127841-00128235 world that is why I have set this year DE6tKYJx7C0-00393-00128236-00128466 to be the year of student experience and DE6tKYJx7C0-00394-00128467-00128841 I'm asking every single staff member DE6tKYJx7C0-00395-00128842-00129064 whether you wherever you sit in the ANU DE6tKYJx7C0-00396-00129065-00129366 community to make a commitment that you DE6tKYJx7C0-00397-00129367-00129481 will do everything DE6tKYJx7C0-00398-00129482-00129694 you can to make our student experience DE6tKYJx7C0-00399-00129695-00129875 the best it can be DE6tKYJx7C0-00400-00129876-00130108 this means improving our practice DE6tKYJx7C0-00401-00130108-00130274 everywhere we think it falls short DE6tKYJx7C0-00402-00130275-00130539 listening to feedback learning from DE6tKYJx7C0-00403-00130540-00130800 colleagues inside an you and from around DE6tKYJx7C0-00404-00130801-00131061 the world challenging ourselves with the DE6tKYJx7C0-00405-00131063-00131356 question is this what a student joining DE6tKYJx7C0-00406-00131357-00131538 one of the best universities of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00407-00131539-00131913 world shouldn't expect is it what you DE6tKYJx7C0-00408-00131914-00132216 would expect I know what I would expect DE6tKYJx7C0-00409-00132217-00132484 I expect the educational standards of DE6tKYJx7C0-00410-00132485-00132649 the best universities in the world I DE6tKYJx7C0-00411-00132650-00132847 know we need to have outstanding DE6tKYJx7C0-00412-00132848-00133113 research led teaching we need to be a DE6tKYJx7C0-00413-00133114-00133266 place where the connection between DE6tKYJx7C0-00414-00133267-00133549 students academics and professional DE6tKYJx7C0-00415-00133550-00133911 staff is seamless and with and us having DE6tKYJx7C0-00416-00133912-00134148 degree programs experiences and DE6tKYJx7C0-00417-00134149-00134415 opportunities that allow me to graduate DE6tKYJx7C0-00418-00134416-00134678 as a leader that's what I would expect DE6tKYJx7C0-00419-00134679-00134968 now parts of our university do this DE6tKYJx7C0-00420-00134969-00135382 brilliantly already but by 2025 every DE6tKYJx7C0-00421-00135383-00135547 student at a and you should be able to DE6tKYJx7C0-00422-00135548-00135789 say they received a distinctive DE6tKYJx7C0-00423-00135790-00136171 education that is second to none we need DE6tKYJx7C0-00424-00136172-00136503 to be seen as the Oxbridge Ivy League DE6tKYJx7C0-00425-00136504-00136668 institution of the southern hemisphere DE6tKYJx7C0-00426-00136669-00137090 but with an inclusive and distinctively DE6tKYJx7C0-00427-00137091-00137415 Australian character we need to be a and DE6tKYJx7C0-00428-00137416-00137714 you but we need to be great DE6tKYJx7C0-00429-00137715-00137944 to help figure out new ways of doing DE6tKYJx7C0-00430-00137945-00138213 things later this year we are going to DE6tKYJx7C0-00431-00138214-00138481 establish in cambree a student DE6tKYJx7C0-00432-00138482-00138721 experience accelerator a space where we DE6tKYJx7C0-00433-00138722-00138973 can collaborate in teams to try out new DE6tKYJx7C0-00434-00138974-00139224 ideas and seek real-time student DE6tKYJx7C0-00435-00139225-00139464 engagement and feedback now we're going DE6tKYJx7C0-00436-00139465-00139648 to prioritize this as soon as our campus DE6tKYJx7C0-00437-00139649-00139965 returns to some sort of normalcy but DE6tKYJx7C0-00438-00139966-00140166 this new initiative will be a great way DE6tKYJx7C0-00439-00140167-00140403 of bringing the startup mindset to DE6tKYJx7C0-00440-00140404-00140647 improving our student experience and I DE6tKYJx7C0-00441-00140648-00140797 hope we can roll it out to almost DE6tKYJx7C0-00442-00140798-00141087 anything we do in the future of course DE6tKYJx7C0-00443-00141088-00141310 students are not the only priority we DE6tKYJx7C0-00444-00141311-00141508 have committed to investing in insisting DE6tKYJx7C0-00445-00141509-00141874 on excellence everywhere at Anu and by DE6tKYJx7C0-00446-00141875-00142207 2025 I expect to see evidence of that DE6tKYJx7C0-00447-00142208-00142437 commitment everywhere that means DE6tKYJx7C0-00448-00142438-00142601 investing in research that transforms DE6tKYJx7C0-00449-00142602-00142771 society that DE6tKYJx7C0-00450-00142772-00143040 changes the way people act and the way DE6tKYJx7C0-00451-00143041-00143134 they think DE6tKYJx7C0-00452-00143135-00143395 since our researchers train the Future DE6tKYJx7C0-00453-00143396-00143626 Leaders of Australia our region and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00454-00143627-00144066 world we must do that well it means an DE6tKYJx7C0-00455-00144067-00144216 you becoming the public policy DE6tKYJx7C0-00456-00144217-00144508 University we will be the brains trust DE6tKYJx7C0-00457-00144509-00144796 the public policy making to the public DE6tKYJx7C0-00458-00144797-00145096 policymaking community listening not DE6tKYJx7C0-00459-00145097-00145348 preaching and being trusted to suggest DE6tKYJx7C0-00460-00145349-00145677 refine and road test policy solutions DE6tKYJx7C0-00461-00145678-00145993 the government is entitled to expect DE6tKYJx7C0-00462-00145994-00146206 this from its National University which DE6tKYJx7C0-00463-00146207-00146437 it endowed with the National Institutes DE6tKYJx7C0-00464-00146438-00146739 grant and we must exceed their DE6tKYJx7C0-00465-00146740-00147127 expectations now I cannot emphasize this DE6tKYJx7C0-00466-00147128-00147564 enough this is not an optional extra for DE6tKYJx7C0-00467-00147565-00147927 Anu this is a core reason why we exist DE6tKYJx7C0-00468-00147928-00148270 and so we must excel and do better than DE6tKYJx7C0-00469-00148271-00148756 we are do we have been doing being Anu DE6tKYJx7C0-00470-00148757-00148996 also means being the place of choice for DE6tKYJx7C0-00471-00148997-00149236 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders DE6tKYJx7C0-00472-00149237-00149431 to engage in higher education and DE6tKYJx7C0-00473-00149432-00149829 undertake research why because they DE6tKYJx7C0-00474-00149830-00150054 trust their peers when they tell them DE6tKYJx7C0-00475-00150055-00150298 that Anu is a community which embraces DE6tKYJx7C0-00476-00150299-00150499 and celebrates the culture and DE6tKYJx7C0-00477-00150500-00150709 contributions of Australia's First DE6tKYJx7C0-00478-00150710-00150961 Nations people and if that message is to DE6tKYJx7C0-00479-00150962-00151207 be shared we must be as good as our word DE6tKYJx7C0-00480-00151208-00151447 and in bed indigenous culture and DE6tKYJx7C0-00481-00151448-00151708 learnings across our campus and attract DE6tKYJx7C0-00482-00151709-00151924 many more indigenous staff and students DE6tKYJx7C0-00483-00151925-00152452 more on this in a moment and by 2025 I DE6tKYJx7C0-00484-00152453-00152814 want every single one of you to know you DE6tKYJx7C0-00485-00152815-00152983 are working in one of the best DE6tKYJx7C0-00486-00152984-00153307 environments in the world a university DE6tKYJx7C0-00487-00153308-00153528 you are exceptionally proud to work at DE6tKYJx7C0-00488-00153529-00153895 because any other place will be a step DE6tKYJx7C0-00489-00153896-00154195 down we will be a workplace that is DE6tKYJx7C0-00490-00154196-00154440 equitable collegiate that nurtures DE6tKYJx7C0-00491-00154441-00154696 talent and provides the best working DE6tKYJx7C0-00492-00154697-00155059 conditions of any University now to DE6tKYJx7C0-00493-00155060-00155316 achieve this I could resort to having DE6tKYJx7C0-00494-00155317-00155577 Policy drafted creating incentives DE6tKYJx7C0-00495-00155578-00156031 begging pleading and cajoling but in the DE6tKYJx7C0-00496-00156032-00156303 and the only way to achieve my ambition DE6tKYJx7C0-00497-00156304-00156753 and I hope our collective ambition is if DE6tKYJx7C0-00498-00156754-00157062 the people who work here make it so I DE6tKYJx7C0-00499-00157063-00157338 ask you to remember the kindness that DE6tKYJx7C0-00500-00157339-00157594 emerges every time we are faced with a DE6tKYJx7C0-00501-00157595-00157815 crisis and let's try to be that DE6tKYJx7C0-00502-00157816-00158154 workplace every day not just on the DE6tKYJx7C0-00503-00158155-00158526 difficult days I also ask that you DE6tKYJx7C0-00504-00158527-00158841 reflect today on how you can contribute DE6tKYJx7C0-00505-00158842-00159148 to these ambitions what can you do in DE6tKYJx7C0-00506-00159149-00159312 your role to achieve this level of DE6tKYJx7C0-00507-00159313-00159528 excellence and to build Australia's DE6tKYJx7C0-00508-00159529-00159871 trust in us and I look forward to DE6tKYJx7C0-00509-00159872-00160239 hearing your ideas if Australia is to DE6tKYJx7C0-00510-00160240-00160554 trust its National University we must do DE6tKYJx7C0-00511-00160555-00160819 everything we can to resemble the DE6tKYJx7C0-00512-00160820-00161112 country we seek to serve if we're honest DE6tKYJx7C0-00513-00161113-00161478 we haven't yet done enough to look like DE6tKYJx7C0-00514-00161479-00161773 Australian talent exists in every DE6tKYJx7C0-00515-00161774-00162027 community in every ethnic group at every DE6tKYJx7C0-00516-00162028-00162331 age and is not symbolized by physical DE6tKYJx7C0-00517-00162332-00162643 abilities or conventions our admissions DE6tKYJx7C0-00518-00162644-00162847 scholarship and accommodation scheme is DE6tKYJx7C0-00519-00162848-00163086 starting to succeed in widening the DE6tKYJx7C0-00520-00163087-00163302 range of students who come to nu this DE6tKYJx7C0-00521-00163303-00163614 year but we have a long ways to go DE6tKYJx7C0-00522-00163615-00163948 before we can truly say that the DE6tKYJx7C0-00523-00163949-00164289 nation's microcosm is its National DE6tKYJx7C0-00524-00164290-00164608 University one of the places we have the DE6tKYJx7C0-00525-00164609-00164932 most work to do is in tract endogenous DE6tKYJx7C0-00526-00164933-00165252 talent to Anu less than 1% of our DE6tKYJx7C0-00527-00165253-00165429 domestic students identify as indigenous DE6tKYJx7C0-00528-00165430-00165733 well the national figure is say more DE6tKYJx7C0-00529-00165734-00166236 than 3% of the Australian population DE6tKYJx7C0-00530-00166237-00166534 there was so much talent potential and DE6tKYJx7C0-00531-00166535-00166681 imagination that we're missing out on DE6tKYJx7C0-00532-00166682-00167091 and this is a gap we must address and if DE6tKYJx7C0-00533-00167092-00167265 you ever want to see that talent and DE6tKYJx7C0-00534-00167266-00167499 what that talent and potential and DE6tKYJx7C0-00535-00167500-00167794 imagination looks like I recommend you DE6tKYJx7C0-00536-00167795-00168027 go visit auntie Anne and the Chabal DE6tKYJx7C0-00537-00168028-00168216 Centre where auntie Anna and her team DE6tKYJx7C0-00538-00168217-00168426 can introduce you to the Millie the many DE6tKYJx7C0-00539-00168427-00168649 brilliant have committed Aboriginal and DE6tKYJx7C0-00540-00168650-00168823 Torres Strait Islander students who have DE6tKYJx7C0-00541-00168824-00169038 found their academic home here on our DE6tKYJx7C0-00542-00169039-00169095 campus DE6tKYJx7C0-00543-00169096-00169425 there is no question we should be doing DE6tKYJx7C0-00544-00169426-00169668 more much more to make this university DE6tKYJx7C0-00545-00169669-00169938 accessible to as many and Indigenous DE6tKYJx7C0-00546-00169939-00170214 Australians as we can our campus is DE6tKYJx7C0-00547-00170215-00170448 enriched when we embrace diversity and DE6tKYJx7C0-00548-00170449-00170784 reflect this nation that is why I am DE6tKYJx7C0-00549-00170785-00170991 proud and delighted to announce the DE6tKYJx7C0-00550-00170992-00171291 creation today of a new sector leading DE6tKYJx7C0-00551-00171292-00171486 scholarship scheme the Camry DE6tKYJx7C0-00552-00171487-00171752 scholarships that will provide any DE6tKYJx7C0-00553-00171753-00172065 indigenous student who comes to Anu the DE6tKYJx7C0-00554-00172066-00172347 financial academic and pastoral support DE6tKYJx7C0-00555-00172348-00172635 they need to thrive in our community DE6tKYJx7C0-00556-00172636-00172956 this will enable us to welcome many more DE6tKYJx7C0-00557-00172957-00173109 Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander DE6tKYJx7C0-00558-00173110-00173379 students day and you while ensuring that DE6tKYJx7C0-00559-00173380-00173634 they are supported to complete their DE6tKYJx7C0-00560-00173635-00173706 degrees DE6tKYJx7C0-00561-00173707-00174063 now how can we guarantee that this money DE6tKYJx7C0-00562-00174064-00174216 will be available each year DE6tKYJx7C0-00563-00174217-00174483 well the Anu Council has committed to DE6tKYJx7C0-00564-00174484-00174765 create an endowment of at least 50 DE6tKYJx7C0-00565-00174766-00175002 million dollars where the university DE6tKYJx7C0-00566-00175003-00175182 will match dollar-for-dollar DE6tKYJx7C0-00567-00175183-00175431 philanthropic gifts until we meet that DE6tKYJx7C0-00568-00175432-00175491 goal DE6tKYJx7C0-00569-00175492-00175740 the university has already provided DE6tKYJx7C0-00570-00175741-00175906 several million dollars of seed funding DE6tKYJx7C0-00571-00175907-00176240 to ensure the program starts this year DE6tKYJx7C0-00572-00176241-00176478 the investment returns will fund the DE6tKYJx7C0-00573-00176479-00176754 program into perpetuity and so never DE6tKYJx7C0-00574-00176755-00177015 again will indigenous students miss out DE6tKYJx7C0-00575-00177016-00179958 on the Anu experience DE6tKYJx7C0-00576-00179959-00180333 I thank the leadership of onion and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00577-00180334-00180698 council on this who I will pass on your DE6tKYJx7C0-00578-00180699-00180962 congratulations if you are inspired by DE6tKYJx7C0-00579-00180963-00181211 this and I surely am and want to be part DE6tKYJx7C0-00580-00181212-00181465 of it or you know someone who might be DE6tKYJx7C0-00581-00181466-00181731 you can find more information through DE6tKYJx7C0-00582-00181732-00181932 the cambree scholarships button on our DE6tKYJx7C0-00583-00181933-00182201 website or just speak to our advancement DE6tKYJx7C0-00584-00182202-00182438 colleagues who are here on campus and in DE6tKYJx7C0-00585-00182439-00182689 the audience today in the years to come DE6tKYJx7C0-00586-00182690-00182946 the australian national university can DE6tKYJx7C0-00587-00182947-00183290 look back to this moment as the time DE6tKYJx7C0-00588-00183291-00183468 when our commitment to indigenous DE6tKYJx7C0-00589-00183469-00183802 australians took a bold new step and DE6tKYJx7C0-00590-00183803-00184115 they along with their fellow graduates DE6tKYJx7C0-00591-00184116-00184383 will become the leaders Australia turns DE6tKYJx7C0-00592-00184384-00184691 to in order to tackle the problems their DE6tKYJx7C0-00593-00184692-00185121 own generations will face this is our DE6tKYJx7C0-00594-00185122-00185460 university showing leadership and of DE6tKYJx7C0-00595-00185461-00185699 course there are many domains we must DE6tKYJx7C0-00596-00185700-00185943 show leadership there is almost DE6tKYJx7C0-00597-00185944-00186260 universal concern across our campus and DE6tKYJx7C0-00598-00186261-00186546 indeed the nation of the impact of DE6tKYJx7C0-00599-00186547-00186873 climate change the world is looking to DE6tKYJx7C0-00600-00186874-00187110 us and other leading universities for DE6tKYJx7C0-00601-00187111-00187473 action and solutions so one of our first DE6tKYJx7C0-00602-00187474-00187647 conversations the Chancellor and I DE6tKYJx7C0-00603-00187648-00187862 resolved that we must do something DE6tKYJx7C0-00604-00187863-00188141 significant therefore I have asked DE6tKYJx7C0-00605-00188142-00188339 professor mark Houghton a global leader DE6tKYJx7C0-00606-00188340-00188706 as vice-chair of the IPCC and director DE6tKYJx7C0-00607-00188707-00188951 of the ANU climate change Institute with DE6tKYJx7C0-00608-00188952-00189156 esteemed colleagues like Professor Frank DE6tKYJx7C0-00609-00189157-00189512 Yan so to chart how an you cannot only DE6tKYJx7C0-00610-00189513-00189815 become carbon neutral but carbon DE6tKYJx7C0-00611-00189816-00190235 negative as fast as possible we will be DE6tKYJx7C0-00612-00190236-00190419 looking to many of our staff and DE6tKYJx7C0-00613-00190420-00190760 students for expertise and help there is DE6tKYJx7C0-00614-00190761-00191039 so much we can do now and what being DE6tKYJx7C0-00615-00191040-00191336 carbon negative will evolve over time DE6tKYJx7C0-00616-00191337-00191643 but at this University and our students DE6tKYJx7C0-00617-00191644-00191900 and staff are prepared to be part of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00618-00191901-00192108 solution oh I think we can lead the DE6tKYJx7C0-00619-00192109-00192447 world starting this year and show how we DE6tKYJx7C0-00620-00192448-00192803 don't have to wait until 2050 or beyond DE6tKYJx7C0-00621-00192804-00193722 to act this group DE6tKYJx7C0-00622-00193723-00194416 [Applause] DE6tKYJx7C0-00623-00194417-00194636 this group was going to provide a DE6tKYJx7C0-00624-00194637-00195017 pathway and I hope all will join us in DE6tKYJx7C0-00625-00195018-00195278 this action each of us are going to have DE6tKYJx7C0-00626-00195279-00195491 to look at the contribution we can make DE6tKYJx7C0-00627-00195492-00195785 on and off our campus and that is the DE6tKYJx7C0-00628-00195786-00196178 only way we can succeed but this is a DE6tKYJx7C0-00629-00196179-00196412 and you meeting its responsibilities the DE6tKYJx7C0-00630-00196413-00196631 trust Australia places in its national DE6tKYJx7C0-00631-00196632-00196850 university to confront the biggest DE6tKYJx7C0-00632-00196851-00197066 issues and create leaders with the DE6tKYJx7C0-00633-00197067-00197315 capacity to solve the issues we haven't DE6tKYJx7C0-00634-00197316-00197573 yet imagined those leaders must inspire DE6tKYJx7C0-00635-00197574-00197816 us being willing to take a stand to DE6tKYJx7C0-00636-00197817-00198098 speak truth even when inconvenient and DE6tKYJx7C0-00637-00198099-00198308 to be authentic and to win the DE6tKYJx7C0-00638-00198309-00198578 admiration of their community they have DE6tKYJx7C0-00639-00198579-00198797 to be trailblazers and pioneers with the DE6tKYJx7C0-00640-00198798-00198983 strength of character to do difficult DE6tKYJx7C0-00641-00198984-00199385 things for the first time this brings me DE6tKYJx7C0-00642-00199386-00199634 to our Chancellor a leader of DE6tKYJx7C0-00643-00199635-00199859 distinction who has served in cabinet DE6tKYJx7C0-00644-00199860-00200084 under three prime ministers and across DE6tKYJx7C0-00645-00200085-00200291 three portfolios including foreign DE6tKYJx7C0-00646-00200292-00200564 minister the first woman to serve in DE6tKYJx7C0-00647-00200565-00200882 that capacity one of just 15 people in DE6tKYJx7C0-00648-00200883-00201101 Australian political history to have DE6tKYJx7C0-00649-00201102-00201272 been elected deputy leader of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00650-00201273-00201506 Liberal Party and the first woman to DE6tKYJx7C0-00651-00201507-00201863 have done so elected seven times to DE6tKYJx7C0-00652-00201864-00202061 represent the people of Curtin in the DE6tKYJx7C0-00653-00202062-00202337 House of Representatives the first woman DE6tKYJx7C0-00654-00202338-00202637 member for Curtin Julie Bishop achieved DE6tKYJx7C0-00655-00202638-00202832 global recognition as foreign minister DE6tKYJx7C0-00656-00202833-00203099 for a response to the shooting down of DE6tKYJx7C0-00657-00203100-00203480 mh17 she secured Australia's election to DE6tKYJx7C0-00658-00203481-00203675 the UN Human Rights Council on a DE6tKYJx7C0-00659-00203676-00203903 platform of good governance freedom of DE6tKYJx7C0-00660-00203904-00204131 expression promoting gender equality and DE6tKYJx7C0-00661-00204132-00204401 the rights of indigenous people Julie DE6tKYJx7C0-00662-00204402-00204569 was also responsible for creating the DE6tKYJx7C0-00663-00204570-00204779 new Colombo Plan which has so far made DE6tKYJx7C0-00664-00204780-00205052 over 60,000 awards to Australian DE6tKYJx7C0-00665-00205053-00205294 undergraduates for study and travel in DE6tKYJx7C0-00666-00205296-00205544 the indo-pacific region by any measure DE6tKYJx7C0-00667-00205544-00205778 this is an exceptional record of public DE6tKYJx7C0-00668-00205779-00206039 service her straight-talking honesty won DE6tKYJx7C0-00669-00206040-00206276 the trust and respect of the Australian DE6tKYJx7C0-00670-00206277-00206552 people and leaders around the world and DE6tKYJx7C0-00671-00206553-00206834 now we are honoured and delighted that DE6tKYJx7C0-00672-00206835-00207059 her service continues as one of our most DE6tKYJx7C0-00673-00207060-00207298 distinguished and globally recognized DE6tKYJx7C0-00674-00207300-00207657 and you guessed it the first woman DE6tKYJx7C0-00675-00207658-00207891 Chancellor of this great national DE6tKYJx7C0-00676-00207892-00208137 university colleagues I'm delighted to DE6tKYJx7C0-00677-00208138-00208350 introduce introduce for the first time DE6tKYJx7C0-00678-00208351-00208673 our Chancellor the Honorable Julie DE6tKYJx7C0-00679-00208675-00210741 Bishop DE6tKYJx7C0-00680-00210742-00211084 thank you for that very warm welcome and DE6tKYJx7C0-00681-00211085-00211492 my first think Wally for his welcome to DE6tKYJx7C0-00682-00211492-00211846 country such a beautiful inspiring and DE6tKYJx7C0-00683-00211846-00212236 haunting welcome for us all thank you DE6tKYJx7C0-00684-00212237-00212467 Brian for your very kind words and for DE6tKYJx7C0-00685-00212467-00212890 your wonderful address the state of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00686-00212891-00213117 University and I particularly focus on DE6tKYJx7C0-00687-00213119-00213478 the cambree scholarships and that will DE6tKYJx7C0-00688-00213479-00213763 be a magnificent initiative for DE6tKYJx7C0-00689-00213764-00213973 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders DE6tKYJx7C0-00690-00213973-00214264 but also for our University our DE6tKYJx7C0-00691-00214265-00214548 community and Australia more generally DE6tKYJx7C0-00692-00214550-00215160 and also our ambition to be carbon- DE6tKYJx7C0-00693-00215161-00215691 this is my first official appearance on DE6tKYJx7C0-00694-00215692-00216267 campus as Chancellor and I took up the DE6tKYJx7C0-00695-00216269-00216676 role on the 1st of January 2020 that DE6tKYJx7C0-00696-00216677-00217075 happened to be the day that Canberra was DE6tKYJx7C0-00697-00217076-00217359 reported as having the worst air quality DE6tKYJx7C0-00698-00217360-00217942 in the world that should have given some DE6tKYJx7C0-00699-00217942-00218271 indication of what lay ahead for the DE6tKYJx7C0-00700-00218273-00218628 university in the following weeks the DE6tKYJx7C0-00701-00218629-00219054 extreme weather events the bush fires DE6tKYJx7C0-00702-00219055-00219426 encircling Canberra the smoke haze DE6tKYJx7C0-00703-00219427-00219942 caused us to close the campus and then DE6tKYJx7C0-00704-00219944-00220323 we had the torrential rain and the hail DE6tKYJx7C0-00705-00220325-00220738 storm that caused so much destruction to DE6tKYJx7C0-00706-00220739-00220963 our infrastructure I visited the glass DE6tKYJx7C0-00707-00220964-00221323 houses yesterday but the impact was so DE6tKYJx7C0-00708-00221323-00221704 profound and so we closed the campus DE6tKYJx7C0-00709-00221705-00222079 again and then a state of emergency was DE6tKYJx7C0-00710-00222080-00222521 announced for the AC T last weekend and DE6tKYJx7C0-00711-00222523-00222917 then we had to deal with the impact of DE6tKYJx7C0-00712-00222919-00223167 coronavirus and the travel ban DE6tKYJx7C0-00713-00223169-00223369 preventing so many of our overseas DE6tKYJx7C0-00714-00223369-00223660 students from coming here and this was DE6tKYJx7C0-00715-00223661-00223900 all just in the first month of my DE6tKYJx7C0-00716-00223901-00224314 chancellorship so I decided in DE6tKYJx7C0-00717-00224315-00224566 discussion with Brian and the team that DE6tKYJx7C0-00718-00224567-00224869 we really shouldn't go ahead with the DE6tKYJx7C0-00719-00224869-00225226 formal installation of me as Chancellor DE6tKYJx7C0-00720-00225227-00225409 by the governor-general when there were DE6tKYJx7C0-00721-00225410-00225655 so many other priorities that we should DE6tKYJx7C0-00722-00225656-00226084 be focusing upon and I do apologise to DE6tKYJx7C0-00723-00226085-00226317 anyone who is inconvenienced by our DE6tKYJx7C0-00724-00226319-00226666 decision to postpone the ceremony but I DE6tKYJx7C0-00725-00226667-00226984 want to acknowledge how throughout all DE6tKYJx7C0-00726-00226985-00227383 of this vice-chancellor and management DE6tKYJx7C0-00727-00227384-00227817 team our campus leaders acted in DE6tKYJx7C0-00728-00227819-00228192 solidarity with our community in DE6tKYJx7C0-00729-00228192-00228421 focusing on the health and well-being DE6tKYJx7C0-00730-00228421-00228848 and safety and security of everyone and DE6tKYJx7C0-00731-00228850-00229119 they acted with such calm DE6tKYJx7C0-00732-00229119-00229473 professionalism with such DE6tKYJx7C0-00733-00229475-00229878 sage advice for me and for others and DE6tKYJx7C0-00734-00229879-00230350 always with an absolutely perfect sense DE6tKYJx7C0-00735-00230351-00230646 of priorities so Brian and the team DE6tKYJx7C0-00736-00230648-00230854 thank you so much for what you've done DE6tKYJx7C0-00737-00230855-00231027 over the last few weeks in such DE6tKYJx7C0-00738-00231028-00231288 difficult times DE6tKYJx7C0-00739-00231289-00232276 [Applause] DE6tKYJx7C0-00740-00232277-00232777 now I've been asked regularly over the DE6tKYJx7C0-00741-00232778-00233056 last few months why I would take on this DE6tKYJx7C0-00742-00233057-00233500 role in my post political life and there DE6tKYJx7C0-00743-00233501-00233952 are many reasons it is an immense honor DE6tKYJx7C0-00744-00233953-00234238 to be appointed Chancellor of DE6tKYJx7C0-00745-00234239-00234639 Australia's first and only national DE6tKYJx7C0-00746-00234640-00234969 university this is a prestigious DE6tKYJx7C0-00747-00234971-00235341 institution it has national and global DE6tKYJx7C0-00748-00235342-00235591 significance it has an enviable DE6tKYJx7C0-00749-00235592-00235855 reputation for excellence in teaching DE6tKYJx7C0-00750-00235856-00236428 and research and I've had a long-held DE6tKYJx7C0-00751-00236429-00237055 interest in improving the quality of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00752-00237056-00237277 higher education sector in this country DE6tKYJx7C0-00753-00237278-00237532 not just through my own education DE6tKYJx7C0-00754-00237533-00237775 experience but also as Education DE6tKYJx7C0-00755-00237776-00237985 Minister when I got to know this DE6tKYJx7C0-00756-00237986-00238369 university exceedingly well and I've DE6tKYJx7C0-00757-00238369-00238792 always believed that Australia as one of DE6tKYJx7C0-00758-00238792-00239002 the most industrialized and developed DE6tKYJx7C0-00759-00239003-00239259 nations on earth with one of the highest DE6tKYJx7C0-00760-00239260-00239563 standards of living with the top 20 DE6tKYJx7C0-00761-00239564-00239905 economy indeed we're in the top 20 of DE6tKYJx7C0-00762-00239906-00240210 nations on virtually every social and DE6tKYJx7C0-00763-00240211-00240490 economic indicator that counts that we DE6tKYJx7C0-00764-00240491-00240696 should have at least one University in DE6tKYJx7C0-00765-00240698-00241027 the top 20 around the world and that is DE6tKYJx7C0-00766-00241028-00241460 my ambition and aspiration for a in you DE6tKYJx7C0-00767-00241461-00242152 now also as foreign minister I came to DE6tKYJx7C0-00768-00242153-00242344 know the universities so well because it DE6tKYJx7C0-00769-00242344-00242626 was my go to university for public DE6tKYJx7C0-00770-00242627-00242925 policy development whether it was the DE6tKYJx7C0-00771-00242926-00243190 choral Bell school or the national DE6tKYJx7C0-00772-00243191-00243444 security college or the climate change DE6tKYJx7C0-00773-00243446-00243706 Institute or the fenneis school the DE6tKYJx7C0-00774-00243707-00244027 research and the data and the analysis DE6tKYJx7C0-00775-00244028-00244396 was first class always had credibility DE6tKYJx7C0-00776-00244396-00244726 and was always accessible to me as DE6tKYJx7C0-00777-00244727-00245176 foreign minister I've always looked at a DE6tKYJx7C0-00778-00245177-00245534 new as the University for there DE6tKYJx7C0-00779-00245535-00245984 highly sought-after on campus student DE6tKYJx7C0-00780-00245985-00246448 experience and I think this adds so much DE6tKYJx7C0-00781-00246450-00246614 to the unique character of this DE6tKYJx7C0-00782-00246615-00246881 university that students can live and DE6tKYJx7C0-00783-00246882-00247196 study on campus in the national capital DE6tKYJx7C0-00784-00247196-00247535 in a group of students a student DE6tKYJx7C0-00785-00247536-00247805 population made up from people across DE6tKYJx7C0-00786-00247806-00248102 Australia and from around the world that DE6tKYJx7C0-00787-00248103-00248492 rich diverse student population gives us DE6tKYJx7C0-00788-00248492-00248951 such a unique character and it's DE6tKYJx7C0-00789-00248952-00249313 Australia's attractiveness as a DE6tKYJx7C0-00790-00249314-00249619 destination for of overseas students DE6tKYJx7C0-00791-00249621-00249962 that made me ponder as education DE6tKYJx7C0-00792-00249963-00250304 minister as to the benefits of student DE6tKYJx7C0-00793-00250305-00250721 exchange and I began wondering wouldn't DE6tKYJx7C0-00794-00250721-00250994 it be a good idea if more Australian DE6tKYJx7C0-00795-00250994-00251462 students studied overseas to get the DE6tKYJx7C0-00796-00251463-00251816 benefits that so many overseas students DE6tKYJx7C0-00797-00251817-00252146 get from studying in Australia and thus DE6tKYJx7C0-00798-00252146-00252421 I conceived the idea of the new Colombo DE6tKYJx7C0-00799-00252423-00252790 Plan where Australian undergraduates DE6tKYJx7C0-00800-00252791-00253304 would be funded to live and study in a DE6tKYJx7C0-00801-00253305-00253733 nation in our region and they would be DE6tKYJx7C0-00802-00253734-00253937 following in the footsteps of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00803-00253938-00254396 original Colombo Plan of the 1950s 1960s DE6tKYJx7C0-00804-00254396-00254690 1970s which brought thousands of DE6tKYJx7C0-00805-00254691-00254951 students to our shores to study in our DE6tKYJx7C0-00806-00254952-00255221 universities and they went back to their DE6tKYJx7C0-00807-00255221-00255413 home countries and became great DE6tKYJx7C0-00808-00255414-00255694 ambassadors for Australia DE6tKYJx7C0-00809-00255694-00256037 well I had this fantastic plan but I DE6tKYJx7C0-00810-00256038-00256298 couldn't actually implement it there was DE6tKYJx7C0-00811-00256298-00257144 an election and we lost but in 2013 when DE6tKYJx7C0-00812-00257144-00257459 I came back into government as foreign DE6tKYJx7C0-00813-00257460-00257746 minister I introduced the new Colombo DE6tKYJx7C0-00814-00257748-00258104 Plan as foreign policy and as Brian DE6tKYJx7C0-00815-00258105-00258448 indicated around 60,000 students have DE6tKYJx7C0-00816-00258450-00258710 now been funded to live and study and DE6tKYJx7C0-00817-00258711-00258905 work in one of 40 countries DE6tKYJx7C0-00818-00258906-00259229 in our region now a anu was a partner DE6tKYJx7C0-00819-00259230-00259790 from the outset and already over 1085 of DE6tKYJx7C0-00820-00259791-00260132 our students have been recipients of new DE6tKYJx7C0-00821-00260133-00260339 Colombo Plan funding in about 25 DE6tKYJx7C0-00822-00260340-00260744 countries and they come back here they DE6tKYJx7C0-00823-00260744-00261014 come home with new perspectives new DE6tKYJx7C0-00824-00261015-00261367 ideas new skills maybe a second language DE6tKYJx7C0-00825-00261367-00261761 but with a much deeper understanding of DE6tKYJx7C0-00826-00261762-00262028 Australia and it's a place in the region DE6tKYJx7C0-00827-00262029-00262418 and they make connections and networks DE6tKYJx7C0-00828-00262419-00262748 and friendships that could last a DE6tKYJx7C0-00829-00262749-00262946 lifetime and that is to Australia's DE6tKYJx7C0-00830-00262947-00263387 benefit I recall being in a joint DE6tKYJx7C0-00831-00263388-00263641 setting of the houses of parliament in DE6tKYJx7C0-00832-00263642-00264089 October of 2016 when Prime Minister Lee DE6tKYJx7C0-00833-00264090-00264446 of Singapore said of my championing of DE6tKYJx7C0-00834-00264447-00264839 the new Colombo Plan that it continues DE6tKYJx7C0-00835-00264840-00265370 the spirit of exchange and builds a new DE6tKYJx7C0-00836-00265371-00265661 the connections in goodwill that exists DE6tKYJx7C0-00837-00265662-00265942 between our people but for future DE6tKYJx7C0-00838-00265943-00266291 generations I really do hope that the DE6tKYJx7C0-00839-00266292-00266623 new Colombo Plan and student exchange is DE6tKYJx7C0-00840-00266624-00267044 becomes a rite of passage for Australian DE6tKYJx7C0-00841-00267045-00267206 students in our university that they DE6tKYJx7C0-00842-00267207-00267445 spend some of their higher education DE6tKYJx7C0-00843-00267446-00267845 living and studying undertaking work DE6tKYJx7C0-00844-00267846-00268142 experience practicums in countries in DE6tKYJx7C0-00845-00268143-00268628 universities in our region now we are a DE6tKYJx7C0-00846-00268629-00269030 research intensive University and I DE6tKYJx7C0-00847-00269031-00269339 believe that a new has a national DE6tKYJx7C0-00848-00269340-00269528 responsibility to come up with DE6tKYJx7C0-00849-00269529-00269735 evidence-based solutions to the great DE6tKYJx7C0-00850-00269736-00270083 challenges facing our region facing our DE6tKYJx7C0-00851-00270084-00270368 nation and many of our researchers DE6tKYJx7C0-00852-00270369-00270635 indeed our own esteemed vice-chancellor DE6tKYJx7C0-00853-00270636-00270986 have been recognized globally for their DE6tKYJx7C0-00854-00270987-00271262 great discoveries contributing to the DE6tKYJx7C0-00855-00271263-00271694 benefit of humanity we're also a DE6tKYJx7C0-00856-00271695-00271995 teaching University DE6tKYJx7C0-00857-00271996-00272522 and we nurture enquiring minds as Albert DE6tKYJx7C0-00858-00272523-00272799 Einstein once said now apparently he was DE6tKYJx7C0-00859-00272800-00273462 another Nobel laureate in physics it is DE6tKYJx7C0-00860-00273463-00273870 the supreme art of the teacher to awaken DE6tKYJx7C0-00861-00273871-00274167 joy in creative expression and DE6tKYJx7C0-00862-00274168-00274542 understanding so I and you must continue DE6tKYJx7C0-00863-00274543-00275279 to strive for excellence and embrace and DE6tKYJx7C0-00864-00275280-00275694 defend fiercely academic freedom and DE6tKYJx7C0-00865-00275695-00276053 independence within a culture of DE6tKYJx7C0-00866-00276054-00276498 challenging accepted wisdom and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00867-00276499-00276945 status quo and our students our DE6tKYJx7C0-00868-00276946-00277251 researchers our academics must be and DE6tKYJx7C0-00869-00277252-00277614 feel supported in their pursuit of DE6tKYJx7C0-00870-00277615-00278019 knowledge and understanding and our DE6tKYJx7C0-00871-00278020-00278289 graduates must have the skills and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00872-00278290-00278637 abilities and be prepared to succeed in DE6tKYJx7C0-00873-00278638-00278880 an ever-changing ever DE6tKYJx7C0-00874-00278881-00279354 disrupted world and we must always hold DE6tKYJx7C0-00875-00279355-00279795 true to our values and principles that DE6tKYJx7C0-00876-00279796-00280155 are in violent freedom of speech and DE6tKYJx7C0-00877-00280156-00280587 thought within the rule of law now I DE6tKYJx7C0-00878-00280588-00280977 know and I'm acutely aware of the DE6tKYJx7C0-00879-00280978-00281253 transformative power of Education DE6tKYJx7C0-00880-00281254-00281502 perhaps I can tell you a little of my DE6tKYJx7C0-00881-00281503-00282075 personal story and why I'm here today my DE6tKYJx7C0-00882-00282076-00282489 father grew up on an apple and cherry DE6tKYJx7C0-00883-00282490-00282996 orchard in the Adelaide Hills and he was DE6tKYJx7C0-00884-00282997-00283302 head boy at herb ray agricultural high DE6tKYJx7C0-00885-00283303-00283650 school but as the older son he had to DE6tKYJx7C0-00886-00283651-00283881 come home on the property and he didn't DE6tKYJx7C0-00887-00283882-00284190 go to university he was then in the DE6tKYJx7C0-00888-00284191-00284562 Australian Army during World War two my DE6tKYJx7C0-00889-00284563-00284841 mother grew up on a sheep property in DE6tKYJx7C0-00890-00284842-00285102 the mid north of South Australia and she DE6tKYJx7C0-00891-00285103-00285354 won a scholarship to Adelaide Girls High DE6tKYJx7C0-00892-00285355-00285531 at high school in South Australia and DE6tKYJx7C0-00893-00285532-00286011 she completed her year 12 but she DE6tKYJx7C0-00894-00286012-00286215 couldn't go on to university because her DE6tKYJx7C0-00895-00286216-00286407 mother was dying so she went home to the DE6tKYJx7C0-00896-00286408-00286836 property my mother and father met after DE6tKYJx7C0-00897-00286837-00287118 the war they married and they moved home DE6tKYJx7C0-00898-00287119-00287478 to the bishop family property in 1955 DE6tKYJx7C0-00899-00287479-00287883 this very established orchard was razed DE6tKYJx7C0-00900-00287884-00288228 to the ground through the black Sunday DE6tKYJx7C0-00901-00288229-00288672 bushfire they lost everything and their DE6tKYJx7C0-00902-00288673-00288900 lives were absolutely shattered and so DE6tKYJx7C0-00903-00288901-00289197 they worked very hard to rebuild that DE6tKYJx7C0-00904-00289198-00289491 property but it didn't turn a profit for DE6tKYJx7C0-00905-00289492-00289611 over 20 years DE6tKYJx7C0-00906-00289612-00290019 and so my childhood was spent in the DE6tKYJx7C0-00907-00290020-00290460 shadow of that bushfire event in fact I DE6tKYJx7C0-00908-00290461-00290625 was telling one of the Dean's last night DE6tKYJx7C0-00909-00290626-00290868 that my favorite book as a child I was DE6tKYJx7C0-00910-00290869-00291126 completely obsessed with it was February DE6tKYJx7C0-00911-00291127-00291509 dragon by Colin Tilly a story about DE6tKYJx7C0-00912-00291510-00291858 three children whose lives were so DE6tKYJx7C0-00913-00291859-00292154 devastated by the February drag and that DE6tKYJx7C0-00914-00292155-00292584 fire-breathing bushfire that we know DE6tKYJx7C0-00915-00292585-00292983 only too well anyway my parents were DE6tKYJx7C0-00916-00292984-00293358 determined that whatever sacrifice it DE6tKYJx7C0-00917-00293359-00293712 took I and my three siblings would have DE6tKYJx7C0-00918-00293713-00293961 the very best education that they could DE6tKYJx7C0-00919-00293962-00294231 afford I went to a private girls school DE6tKYJx7C0-00920-00294232-00294495 in Adelaide and I was the head girl I DE6tKYJx7C0-00921-00294496-00294723 then had the opportunity to go on to DE6tKYJx7C0-00922-00294724-00294984 university to study a course that I DE6tKYJx7C0-00923-00294985-00295194 wanted to study and then undertake a DE6tKYJx7C0-00924-00295195-00295452 professional career in an area that I DE6tKYJx7C0-00925-00295453-00295755 chose and that led me to becoming DE6tKYJx7C0-00926-00295756-00296033 Australia's first foreign minister and DE6tKYJx7C0-00927-00296034-00296352 the first female Chancellor at this DE6tKYJx7C0-00928-00296353-00296883 university so I want for every student DE6tKYJx7C0-00929-00296884-00297393 in Australia that has the will and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00930-00297394-00297660 capacity to study at a new to have that DE6tKYJx7C0-00931-00297661-00298029 opportunity and whatever their family DE6tKYJx7C0-00932-00298030-00298181 background whatever their circumstances DE6tKYJx7C0-00933-00298182-00298557 if they are able to gain a place here at DE6tKYJx7C0-00934-00298558-00298889 you we will give them the hope and the DE6tKYJx7C0-00935-00298890-00299250 opportunity that they so richly deserve DE6tKYJx7C0-00936-00299251-00299733 and I hope that our graduates continue DE6tKYJx7C0-00937-00299734-00300150 to question to inspire to innovate to DE6tKYJx7C0-00938-00300151-00300522 lead in our communities in a nation and DE6tKYJx7C0-00939-00300523-00300864 globally that should be our aim that DE6tKYJx7C0-00940-00300865-00301179 should be our legacy and I think Brian DE6tKYJx7C0-00941-00301180-00301503 for setting out in his address today how DE6tKYJx7C0-00942-00301504-00301812 we will achieve that such a great vision DE6tKYJx7C0-00943-00301813-00304647 for a great university thank you DE6tKYJx7C0-00944-00304648-00304827 well thank you DE6tKYJx7C0-00945-00304828-00305205 Julie I think our community is very DE6tKYJx7C0-00946-00305206-00305478 excited to welcome you here today it is DE6tKYJx7C0-00947-00305479-00305793 great to hear of your vision so DE6tKYJx7C0-00948-00305794-00306078 crystally defined you will know without DE6tKYJx7C0-00949-00306079-00306552 any notes so it real is up here not just DE6tKYJx7C0-00950-00306553-00306906 what I told her to say we look forward DE6tKYJx7C0-00951-00306907-00307297 to welcoming you further at a barbecue DE6tKYJx7C0-00952-00307298-00307476 that will now ensue we're going to have DE6tKYJx7C0-00953-00307477-00307701 it because of rain and the Athenaeum and DE6tKYJx7C0-00954-00307702-00307945 I'm very happy to see say that DE6tKYJx7C0-00955-00307946-00308229 University House is catering it now DE6tKYJx7C0-00956-00308230-00308374 University house you will see has been DE6tKYJx7C0-00957-00308375-00308596 beaten up probably harder than any other DE6tKYJx7C0-00958-00308597-00308859 part of the university other than the DE6tKYJx7C0-00959-00308860-00309105 greenhouses and it's great to have them DE6tKYJx7C0-00960-00309106-00309520 here today and so I suggest enjoy your DE6tKYJx7C0-00961-00309521-00309801 barbecue but can you thank them for all DE6tKYJx7C0-00962-00309802-00310035 what they are doing and for the DE6tKYJx7C0-00963-00310036-00310237 resilience that they're showing thank DE6tKYJx7C0-00964-00310238-00310363 you one and all look forward to seeing DE6tKYJx7C0-00965-00310364-00311316 you out at the barbecue DE6tKYJx7C0-00966-00311317-00311523 you DG2KwAx6kqg-00000-00000057-00000324 [Music] DG2KwAx6kqg-00001-00000325-00000593 hey there everybody what's going on this DG2KwAx6kqg-00002-00000594-00000770 is doctor Oh fear Isaac coming at you DG2KwAx6kqg-00003-00000771-00000986 from the pain free maverick live tonight DG2KwAx6kqg-00004-00000986-00001174 the pain free maverick goes live again DG2KwAx6kqg-00005-00001175-00001403 for the second time this is super DG2KwAx6kqg-00006-00001404-00001609 nerve-racking it's like public speaking DG2KwAx6kqg-00007-00001610-00001889 but I really enjoy teaching people about DG2KwAx6kqg-00008-00001889-00002126 pain and I bring you the pure truth DG2KwAx6kqg-00009-00002127-00002339 about your pain tonight coming at you DG2KwAx6kqg-00010-00002340-00002687 from Brooklyn at my office all care pain DG2KwAx6kqg-00011-00002688-00002983 elimination for life and today I want to DG2KwAx6kqg-00012-00002984-00003193 tell you a quick story check this out DG2KwAx6kqg-00013-00003194-00003374 Alan this is going out to you coach al DG2KwAx6kqg-00014-00003375-00003677 with EQ BC boxing this is an awesome DG2KwAx6kqg-00015-00003678-00003743 story DG2KwAx6kqg-00016-00003744-00004015 so last night Alan contacts me this is a DG2KwAx6kqg-00017-00004017-00004166 great story about the brand of DG2KwAx6kqg-00018-00004167-00004447 physiotherapy Alan contacts me last DG2KwAx6kqg-00019-00004448-00004481 night DG2KwAx6kqg-00020-00004482-00004829 in a panic freaking out doctor Oh fear DG2KwAx6kqg-00021-00004830-00005138 I'm so sorry to contact you I don't know DG2KwAx6kqg-00022-00005139-00005408 what to do one of my main boxers were in DG2KwAx6kqg-00023-00005409-00005711 Tennessee right now and he's about to DG2KwAx6kqg-00024-00005712-00005867 fight tomorrow and he messed up his DG2KwAx6kqg-00025-00005868-00006061 shoulder really really bad I don't know DG2KwAx6kqg-00026-00006062-00006317 what to do about his shoulder so I said DG2KwAx6kqg-00027-00006318-00006491 okay tell me what's up he's like y'all I DG2KwAx6kqg-00028-00006492-00006589 don't know what to do I don't know how DG2KwAx6kqg-00029-00006590-00006803 to how am I gonna get him how am I gonna DG2KwAx6kqg-00030-00006804-00006946 get him to fight he's supposed to fight DG2KwAx6kqg-00031-00006947-00007259 an elite boxer in his class in his class DG2KwAx6kqg-00032-00007259-00007417 he's fighting an elite boxer in DG2KwAx6kqg-00033-00007418-00007681 Tennessee so anyway so long story short DG2KwAx6kqg-00034-00007683-00007970 Allen asked me what can I do for Deshawn DG2KwAx6kqg-00035-00007970-00008228 what can I do to help this young man so DG2KwAx6kqg-00036-00008229-00008539 that he can't box tomorrow in this fight DG2KwAx6kqg-00037-00008540-00008824 so he gets me on the horn with Deshawn I DG2KwAx6kqg-00038-00008825-00009035 speak with him for a couple of seconds DG2KwAx6kqg-00039-00009036-00009221 and they say Deshawn tell me what it is DG2KwAx6kqg-00040-00009222-00009428 you cannot do what what cannot what DG2KwAx6kqg-00041-00009429-00009584 can't you do it goes I can't box I can't DG2KwAx6kqg-00042-00009585-00009853 punch with my arm and you know me DG2KwAx6kqg-00043-00009854-00010066 feeling this guy is paying personally DG2KwAx6kqg-00044-00010067-00010267 empathizing with him because I know how DG2KwAx6kqg-00045-00010268-00010445 it feels to be in pain I know how it DG2KwAx6kqg-00046-00010446-00010580 feels when I'm trying to train and I DG2KwAx6kqg-00047-00010581-00010864 cannot lift that weight so I said to him DG2KwAx6kqg-00048-00010865-00011048 I know I'm not there right now so I DG2KwAx6kqg-00049-00011049-00011276 can't treat you from remote control but DG2KwAx6kqg-00050-00011277-00011452 I can give you some advice which is what DG2KwAx6kqg-00051-00011453-00011645 what really great consultants and DG2KwAx6kqg-00052-00011646-00011830 advisers do just like your accountant DG2KwAx6kqg-00053-00011831-00011899 your lawyer DG2KwAx6kqg-00054-00011900-00012251 we are advisers in in helping people DG2KwAx6kqg-00055-00012252-00012484 avoid medications injections and DG2KwAx6kqg-00056-00012485-00012662 surgeries so deshawne was gonna go to DG2KwAx6kqg-00057-00012663-00012928 the ER and spend I don't know ten hours DG2KwAx6kqg-00058-00012929-00013088 over there and figure out what's going DG2KwAx6kqg-00059-00013088-00013325 on with his pain I'm short right or go DG2KwAx6kqg-00060-00013326-00013541 find a local doctor in the middle of DG2KwAx6kqg-00061-00013541-00013700 Tennessee but he's got a fight tomorrow DG2KwAx6kqg-00062-00013701-00013946 so what he's gonna do so anyway so I get DG2KwAx6kqg-00063-00013947-00014161 on the horn with him we start text DG2KwAx6kqg-00064-00014162-00014347 messaging back and forth and and and I DG2KwAx6kqg-00065-00014348-00014506 asked him one question I said what can't DG2KwAx6kqg-00066-00014507-00014705 you do he says I can't hit the bag every DG2KwAx6kqg-00067-00014706-00014855 time I hit the bag with my left shoulder DG2KwAx6kqg-00068-00014856-00015185 and I make contact my arm is killing me DG2KwAx6kqg-00069-00015186-00015305 it feels like a dead arm it feels super DG2KwAx6kqg-00070-00015306-00015497 sore and I'm afraid maybe it's a rotator DG2KwAx6kqg-00071-00015497-00015740 cuff tear and I I know what you guys may DG2KwAx6kqg-00072-00015741-00015968 be thinking if you have had shoulder DG2KwAx6kqg-00073-00015969-00016127 pain before right you start thinking all DG2KwAx6kqg-00074-00016128-00016255 these bad things are happening right DG2KwAx6kqg-00075-00016256-00016550 maybe you tore the muscle or maybe you DG2KwAx6kqg-00076-00016551-00016747 need a shot you need an MRI you need an DG2KwAx6kqg-00077-00016748-00016936 x-ray you don't know what to do how to DG2KwAx6kqg-00078-00016937-00017219 handle it so you know me being the pain DG2KwAx6kqg-00079-00017220-00017417 free maverick right I'm a maverick so I DG2KwAx6kqg-00080-00017418-00017662 said this is it man I'm gonna help you DG2KwAx6kqg-00081-00017663-00017705 right now DG2KwAx6kqg-00082-00017706-00017858 I don't care that you're in Tennessee I DG2KwAx6kqg-00083-00017859-00018068 am gonna help you I did not charge him a DG2KwAx6kqg-00084-00018069-00018278 dollar because I wanted this kid to DG2KwAx6kqg-00085-00018279-00018449 fight he was fighting this elite boxer DG2KwAx6kqg-00086-00018450-00018619 and I asked him a simple question and DG2KwAx6kqg-00087-00018620-00018833 said to Shawn can you lift your arm up DG2KwAx6kqg-00088-00018834-00018983 over your head without it falling down DG2KwAx6kqg-00089-00018984-00019222 it's called a drop arm test and this DG2KwAx6kqg-00090-00019223-00019433 test is used by orthopedist but you know DG2KwAx6kqg-00091-00019434-00019633 orthopedist will do x-rays and MRIs and DG2KwAx6kqg-00092-00019634-00019840 other tests that may be not necessary as DG2KwAx6kqg-00093-00019841-00020056 long as he didn't have that and he DG2KwAx6kqg-00094-00020057-00020222 didn't pop his shoulder out I knew that DG2KwAx6kqg-00095-00020223-00020497 he was okay okay so I asked him if he DG2KwAx6kqg-00096-00020498-00020672 had any tingling in his hand he did not DG2KwAx6kqg-00097-00020673-00020900 these muscles are the rotator cuff and DG2KwAx6kqg-00098-00020901-00021058 we're looking at the back of the spine DG2KwAx6kqg-00099-00021059-00021383 over here for all you shoulder for all DG2KwAx6kqg-00100-00021384-00021631 you anatomist physical therapists on DG2KwAx6kqg-00101-00021632-00021937 there give me some thumbs up guys give DG2KwAx6kqg-00102-00021938-00022115 me some thumbs up if you're there please DG2KwAx6kqg-00103-00022116-00022349 give me some thumbs up let me know that DG2KwAx6kqg-00104-00022350-00022794 that you're with me so anyway I asked I DG2KwAx6kqg-00105-00022795-00023183 asked Allen in the show and coach out I DG2KwAx6kqg-00106-00023184-00023486 said hey what can we do about this what DG2KwAx6kqg-00107-00023487-00023674 can we do right now so we gave them a DG2KwAx6kqg-00108-00023675-00023927 couple of exercises to do hey thanks a DG2KwAx6kqg-00109-00023928-00024036 lot for the thumbs up DG2KwAx6kqg-00110-00024037-00024219 I just yeah I did not treat him to DG2KwAx6kqg-00111-00024220-00024396 telehealth I did not treat him through DG2KwAx6kqg-00112-00024397-00024594 telehealth legally I'm not allowed to do DG2KwAx6kqg-00113-00024595-00024786 that because he's over there and I'm in DG2KwAx6kqg-00114-00024787-00024918 New York I'm licensed in New York but DG2KwAx6kqg-00115-00024919-00025100 what I did do is I gave him some advice DG2KwAx6kqg-00116-00025101-00025353 I basically went to my pain free DG2KwAx6kqg-00117-00025354-00025767 maverick website at wwlp.com forward DG2KwAx6kqg-00118-00025768-00026015 slash pain - free - maverick and I DG2KwAx6kqg-00119-00026016-00026355 picked out two of my top exercises for DG2KwAx6kqg-00120-00026356-00026556 shoulder impingement and I literally DG2KwAx6kqg-00121-00026557-00026892 told this gentleman hey if you feel like DG2KwAx6kqg-00122-00026893-00027099 you want to get better you may want to DG2KwAx6kqg-00123-00027100-00027339 check out my videos and that's all he DG2KwAx6kqg-00124-00027339-00027555 did he checked out my videos and I'm not DG2KwAx6kqg-00125-00027556-00027833 joking with you guys in about 10 minutes DG2KwAx6kqg-00126-00027835-00028043 or 15 minutes or so I get a text back DG2KwAx6kqg-00127-00028044-00028329 and Allen tells me and coach al tells me DG2KwAx6kqg-00128-00028330-00028623 oh my god did Sean feels awesome would DG2KwAx6kqg-00129-00028624-00028836 you do I said nothing I just gave him DG2KwAx6kqg-00130-00028837-00028889 some advice DG2KwAx6kqg-00131-00028891-00029120 I told him to stretch the neural system DG2KwAx6kqg-00132-00029122-00029312 in his shoulder and he said well I DG2KwAx6kqg-00133-00029313-00029445 thought it was a soft tissue I thought DG2KwAx6kqg-00134-00029445-00029568 he tore something I thought it was a DG2KwAx6kqg-00135-00029569-00029802 muscular thing yes it felt like a DG2KwAx6kqg-00136-00029802-00029927 muscular thing and I'm gonna keep DG2KwAx6kqg-00137-00029928-00030146 repeating this to you guys out there for DG2KwAx6kqg-00138-00030147-00030314 all you people that still have that DG2KwAx6kqg-00139-00030316-00030507 mindset that you need to get an x-ray or DG2KwAx6kqg-00140-00030508-00030764 an MRI for every little thing first and DG2KwAx6kqg-00141-00030766-00030933 foremost it's gonna cost you a lot of DG2KwAx6kqg-00142-00030933-00031271 money $300 at a minimum if you had a DG2KwAx6kqg-00143-00031272-00031494 fracture or a hole or a dislocation I DG2KwAx6kqg-00144-00031495-00031761 agree go get an MRI go get an x-ray if DG2KwAx6kqg-00145-00031762-00031914 that's what the orthopedic tells you to DG2KwAx6kqg-00146-00031914-00032127 do but you don't need to run for an DG2KwAx6kqg-00147-00032127-00032315 x-ray and MRI or a shot every time DG2KwAx6kqg-00148-00032316-00032667 something hurts you okay so he had a DG2KwAx6kqg-00149-00032668-00032907 problem with the neural system okay DG2KwAx6kqg-00150-00032908-00033123 these month these nerves over here in DG2KwAx6kqg-00151-00033124-00033258 the neck these are called the brachial DG2KwAx6kqg-00152-00033259-00033546 plexus nerves these wires over here this DG2KwAx6kqg-00153-00033547-00033729 thing is so jacked up it's like it DG2KwAx6kqg-00154-00033730-00033921 completely broken from so many years of DG2KwAx6kqg-00155-00033922-00034089 seeing thousands and thousands of DG2KwAx6kqg-00156-00034090-00034296 patients but I still kept it so anyway DG2KwAx6kqg-00157-00034297-00034476 guys take a look if you're interested in DG2KwAx6kqg-00158-00034477-00034629 this you're gonna learn something if DG2KwAx6kqg-00159-00034630-00034815 you've got shoulder problems this is DG2KwAx6kqg-00160-00034816-00035121 totally gonna help you out so here are DG2KwAx6kqg-00161-00035122-00035292 the nerves of the neck it comes off the DG2KwAx6kqg-00162-00035293-00035496 spinal cord and these are that if you DG2KwAx6kqg-00163-00035497-00035655 can imagine these are the bones of the DG2KwAx6kqg-00164-00035656-00035880 spine over here in the back okay right DG2KwAx6kqg-00165-00035881-00036030 over here in the back of the neck and DG2KwAx6kqg-00166-00036031-00036387 basically what this boxer did to himself DG2KwAx6kqg-00167-00036388-00036648 is everything that you may have done to DG2KwAx6kqg-00168-00036649-00036977 yourself as well basically if you DG2KwAx6kqg-00169-00036978-00037095 injured your shoulder you have an DG2KwAx6kqg-00170-00037096-00037169 impingement DG2KwAx6kqg-00171-00037170-00037423 he basically threw his shoulder out DG2KwAx6kqg-00172-00037424-00037766 boxing so me it was so hard and for so DG2KwAx6kqg-00173-00037767-00038015 many hours that he ended up pulling the DG2KwAx6kqg-00174-00038016-00038216 nerves in this area of the neck called DG2KwAx6kqg-00175-00038217-00038417 the brachial plexus I didn't have to see DG2KwAx6kqg-00176-00038418-00038729 him to know that okay he he tethered DG2KwAx6kqg-00177-00038730-00038936 those nerves so what happened is he DG2KwAx6kqg-00178-00038937-00039257 ended up with shoulder he ended up with DG2KwAx6kqg-00179-00039258-00039521 shoulder pain okay as the secondary DG2KwAx6kqg-00180-00039522-00039761 effects secondary means it's something DG2KwAx6kqg-00181-00039762-00039941 that happened as a result of something DG2KwAx6kqg-00182-00039942-00040111 else it's a cause and effect DG2KwAx6kqg-00183-00040112-00040373 unfortunately most people out there you DG2KwAx6kqg-00184-00040374-00040577 may be one of those people that injuries DG2KwAx6kqg-00185-00040578-00040835 are pain and you treat it with pills DG2KwAx6kqg-00186-00040836-00041060 right you're treating the secondary DG2KwAx6kqg-00187-00041061-00041204 effect you're not treating the problem DG2KwAx6kqg-00188-00041205-00041459 or the cause you're you're treating the DG2KwAx6kqg-00189-00041460-00041648 effect that's why you never get better DG2KwAx6kqg-00190-00041649-00041900 that's and that leads to more doctor DG2KwAx6kqg-00191-00041901-00042143 appointments running around freaking out DG2KwAx6kqg-00192-00042144-00042341 and you're never gonna get better stop DG2KwAx6kqg-00193-00042342-00042656 in to exercise and lots of co-pays and DG2KwAx6kqg-00194-00042657-00042854 lots of other things that you need to do DG2KwAx6kqg-00195-00042855-00043166 to maintain your or what they call DG2KwAx6kqg-00196-00043167-00043334 manage your pain that's called pain DG2KwAx6kqg-00197-00043335-00043550 management uh-uh that's not what we do DG2KwAx6kqg-00198-00043551-00043835 in physiotherapy we help you eliminate DG2KwAx6kqg-00199-00043836-00044053 your pain it's totally cool right DG2KwAx6kqg-00200-00044054-00044477 recovery so anyway this boxer was able DG2KwAx6kqg-00201-00044478-00044936 to recover from his acute pain in his DG2KwAx6kqg-00202-00044937-00045176 shoulder by doing two simple exercises DG2KwAx6kqg-00203-00045177-00045347 I'm gonna demonstrate right now two DG2KwAx6kqg-00204-00045348-00045608 simple exercises so I didn't even see DG2KwAx6kqg-00205-00045609-00045728 him I didn't know what happened to him DG2KwAx6kqg-00206-00045729-00045992 what I did know is that when he I asked DG2KwAx6kqg-00207-00045993-00046142 him on the phone I said can you lift DG2KwAx6kqg-00208-00046143-00046322 your arm up with your thumb pointing DG2KwAx6kqg-00209-00046323-00046568 down all the way up and he was able to DG2KwAx6kqg-00210-00046569-00046919 do that without pain before he had DG2KwAx6kqg-00211-00046920-00047207 before he did my exercises what he did DG2KwAx6kqg-00212-00047208-00047360 tell me was when he lifted his arm DG2KwAx6kqg-00213-00047361-00047690 laterally or outside called abduction he DG2KwAx6kqg-00214-00047691-00047930 was having pain and and and that was DG2KwAx6kqg-00215-00047931-00048071 affecting him and he felt like he could DG2KwAx6kqg-00216-00048072-00048473 not connect or impact with his fists he DG2KwAx6kqg-00217-00048474-00048683 felt it in the front of his shoulder he DG2KwAx6kqg-00218-00048684-00048845 told me there was no clicking he had DG2KwAx6kqg-00219-00048846-00049025 never dislocated his arm so I knew there DG2KwAx6kqg-00220-00049026-00049286 was nothing structural or bony going on DG2KwAx6kqg-00221-00049287-00049493 and he just probably really pulled his DG2KwAx6kqg-00222-00049494-00049554 neck and sure DG2KwAx6kqg-00223-00049555-00049722 they're out so here it is guys I'm going DG2KwAx6kqg-00224-00049723-00049869 to show you what I did for him it was DG2KwAx6kqg-00225-00049870-00050136 that simple it may not work for everyone DG2KwAx6kqg-00226-00050137-00050355 but because I've been doing this for 20 DG2KwAx6kqg-00227-00050356-00050631 years and I really know how to think DG2KwAx6kqg-00228-00050632-00050844 through these things and problem-solve DG2KwAx6kqg-00229-00050845-00051066 just like an attorney would problem DG2KwAx6kqg-00230-00051067-00051240 solve when you're having a problem and DG2KwAx6kqg-00231-00051241-00051429 you want to solve that problem an DG2KwAx6kqg-00232-00051429-00051612 attorney will charge you for that time DG2KwAx6kqg-00233-00051613-00051854 or a gut or an advisor like an DG2KwAx6kqg-00234-00051855-00052104 accountant physiotherapists are advisors DG2KwAx6kqg-00235-00052104-00052367 about the knurl musculoskeletal system DG2KwAx6kqg-00236-00052369-00052659 hey what's up adore what's up buddy how DG2KwAx6kqg-00237-00052660-00052944 you doing man this is my boy adore just DG2KwAx6kqg-00238-00052945-00053196 join me here let me know you're there DG2KwAx6kqg-00239-00053197-00053373 he's from men's health fitness Council DG2KwAx6kqg-00240-00053374-00053555 I'm a member of the men's health fitness DG2KwAx6kqg-00241-00053557-00053928 Council and I stand to help trainers and DG2KwAx6kqg-00242-00053929-00054177 work with trainers to get keep people in DG2KwAx6kqg-00243-00054178-00054380 the gym so they don't keep running to DG2KwAx6kqg-00244-00054382-00054549 doctors they don't even need to run to DG2KwAx6kqg-00245-00054550-00054819 physiotherapists all the time they do if DG2KwAx6kqg-00246-00054820-00054987 they're having a problem and trainers DG2KwAx6kqg-00247-00054988-00055287 collaborate with us so adore is one of DG2KwAx6kqg-00248-00055288-00055494 these top trainers this guy is a real DG2KwAx6kqg-00249-00055495-00055677 professional in New York City if anybody DG2KwAx6kqg-00250-00055678-00055848 needs a trainer a door thanks for DG2KwAx6kqg-00251-00055849-00056025 jumping on tonight so I want to let you DG2KwAx6kqg-00252-00056026-00056286 know guys so what I did for this this DG2KwAx6kqg-00253-00056287-00056555 boxer who's going to be a pro fighter DG2KwAx6kqg-00254-00056557-00056796 and I'm not a fighter guys I was I was a DG2KwAx6kqg-00255-00056797-00057039 member of this boxing gym I did it for a DG2KwAx6kqg-00256-00057040-00057207 short period of time I didn't really DG2KwAx6kqg-00257-00057208-00057360 like getting hit in the face too much DG2KwAx6kqg-00258-00057361-00057558 I've done other martial arts and things DG2KwAx6kqg-00259-00057559-00057753 like that but I love movement DG2KwAx6kqg-00260-00057754-00057941 I understand movement nobody knows DG2KwAx6kqg-00261-00057942-00058122 movement better than a physiotherapist DG2KwAx6kqg-00262-00058123-00058365 the doctor of physiotherapy spends their DG2KwAx6kqg-00263-00058366-00058541 whole life studying the art of movement DG2KwAx6kqg-00264-00058542-00058797 and is such a beautiful art it's such an DG2KwAx6kqg-00265-00058798-00059049 amazing art people don't understand what DG2KwAx6kqg-00266-00059050-00059352 we understand and and and it really it DG2KwAx6kqg-00267-00059353-00059661 has so much value so guys I want to let DG2KwAx6kqg-00268-00059662-00060009 you know that it's such an amazing thing DG2KwAx6kqg-00269-00060010-00060198 what happened with this guy day.they DG2KwAx6kqg-00270-00060199-00060605 Shawn he basically had this he had this DG2KwAx6kqg-00271-00060607-00060866 nasty shoulder impingement going on DG2KwAx6kqg-00272-00060867-00061224 secondary to boxing too much anyway I DG2KwAx6kqg-00273-00061225-00061367 gave him this stretch let me show you DG2KwAx6kqg-00274-00061369-00061707 what I did with this Shawn so what I did DG2KwAx6kqg-00275-00061708-00062064 was basically he could not internally DG2KwAx6kqg-00276-00062065-00062313 rotate he could not internally rotate DG2KwAx6kqg-00277-00062314-00062457 his shoulder behind his back DG2KwAx6kqg-00278-00062458-00062673 and he could not have ducked or bring DG2KwAx6kqg-00279-00062674-00062867 his shoulder up here I cleared his neck DG2KwAx6kqg-00280-00062869-00062904 I DG2KwAx6kqg-00281-00062904-00063087 can you look up once I knew you could DG2KwAx6kqg-00282-00063088-00063249 look up I knew that it wasn't coming DG2KwAx6kqg-00283-00063250-00063482 from the neck itself but he could not DG2KwAx6kqg-00284-00063483-00063684 rotate to the same side so much and he DG2KwAx6kqg-00285-00063685-00063825 could not have ducked so I knew it was DG2KwAx6kqg-00286-00063826-00064041 coming from over here just by talking to DG2KwAx6kqg-00287-00064041-00064217 him I didn't need a fancy MRI or an DG2KwAx6kqg-00288-00064219-00064419 x-ray that some doctor would have sent DG2KwAx6kqg-00289-00064420-00064599 him to because they need to look inside DG2KwAx6kqg-00290-00064600-00064896 of you okay so I told you to do this one DG2KwAx6kqg-00291-00064897-00065091 stretch okay so if you're out there DG2KwAx6kqg-00292-00065091-00065231 you're having shoulder pain you may want DG2KwAx6kqg-00293-00065232-00065610 to try this it's at wwlp.com forward DG2KwAx6kqg-00294-00065611-00065847 slash pain free maverick forward slash DG2KwAx6kqg-00295-00065848-00066090 videos and you can see some of my videos DG2KwAx6kqg-00296-00066091-00066318 there I told them to do the radial nerve DG2KwAx6kqg-00297-00066319-00066476 stretch which is right over here DG2KwAx6kqg-00298-00066477-00066681 so if you can see me I'm doing this with DG2KwAx6kqg-00299-00066682-00066840 with my phone kind of today I'm not DG2KwAx6kqg-00300-00066841-00067035 holding my phone I kind of strapped it DG2KwAx6kqg-00301-00067036-00067293 on with some tape and mangled it onto my DG2KwAx6kqg-00302-00067294-00067526 bicycle at my gym over here cuz I didn't DG2KwAx6kqg-00303-00067527-00067713 know is how I'll have to make it work DG2KwAx6kqg-00304-00067714-00067866 but it's pretty cool it's working really DG2KwAx6kqg-00305-00067867-00068130 nicely here so basically I gave him this DG2KwAx6kqg-00306-00068131-00068334 thing called a radial nerve stretch and DG2KwAx6kqg-00307-00068335-00068469 you can see how I do it right here so DG2KwAx6kqg-00308-00068470-00068610 I'm giving you guys bold here if you've DG2KwAx6kqg-00309-00068611-00068838 got a patient or you're a trainer or DG2KwAx6kqg-00310-00068839-00068979 you're a physiotherapist and you've got DG2KwAx6kqg-00311-00068980-00069119 a client with shoulder impingement DG2KwAx6kqg-00312-00069120-00069275 instead of doing those old-school DG2KwAx6kqg-00313-00069276-00069519 resistive training exercises why don't DG2KwAx6kqg-00314-00069520-00069744 you try stretching the neural mo it's DG2KwAx6kqg-00315-00069745-00069956 stretching out the nervous system as the DG2KwAx6kqg-00316-00069957-00070173 primary cause okay so here it is so DG2KwAx6kqg-00317-00070174-00070344 basically it's a depression or our drop DG2KwAx6kqg-00318-00070345-00070631 of the shoulder and inter rotation like DG2KwAx6kqg-00319-00070632-00070788 your trap trying to catch hey who's DG2KwAx6kqg-00320-00070789-00070826 there DG2KwAx6kqg-00321-00070827-00071172 Oh Ozzie my man what's up Ozzie he's a DG2KwAx6kqg-00322-00071173-00071438 great guy I met him in in Florida he's a DG2KwAx6kqg-00323-00071439-00071775 fantastic guy as a PA a PA and medic DG2KwAx6kqg-00324-00071776-00072030 this guy is a professional all these DG2KwAx6kqg-00325-00072031-00072210 wonderful professionals are jumping on DG2KwAx6kqg-00326-00072211-00072585 tonight whoever hates medications giving DG2KwAx6kqg-00327-00072586-00072912 patients pain medications for no reason DG2KwAx6kqg-00328-00072913-00073185 medicating America and wasting billions DG2KwAx6kqg-00329-00073186-00073451 of dollars and causing chronic pain and DG2KwAx6kqg-00330-00073452-00073665 depression raise your hands and give me DG2KwAx6kqg-00331-00073666-00073965 a thumbs up because it's enough we are DG2KwAx6kqg-00332-00073966-00074172 wasting thousands and thousands and DG2KwAx6kqg-00333-00074173-00074384 thousands of dollars on wasted tests DG2KwAx6kqg-00334-00074385-00074613 injections medications and unwarranted DG2KwAx6kqg-00335-00074614-00074775 surgeries thank you so much for that DG2KwAx6kqg-00336-00074776-00075066 thumbs up and people are really like DG2KwAx6kqg-00337-00075067-00075324 sheep they don't really understand the DG2KwAx6kqg-00338-00075325-00075588 corruption in the system big pharma is DG2KwAx6kqg-00339-00075589-00075918 our enemy big time doctors are our DG2KwAx6kqg-00340-00075919-00076318 friends but big pharma is giving DG2KwAx6kqg-00341-00076319-00076540 afters these tools and telling them use DG2KwAx6kqg-00342-00076541-00076765 them quickly and don't you don't have a DG2KwAx6kqg-00343-00076766-00076903 lot of time because you're not getting a DG2KwAx6kqg-00344-00076904-00077044 lot of money from insurances so just DG2KwAx6kqg-00345-00077045-00077254 dole out these drugs to patients and DG2KwAx6kqg-00346-00077255-00077482 doctors are not trained in dealing thank DG2KwAx6kqg-00347-00077483-00077677 you for the thumbs up doctors are not DG2KwAx6kqg-00348-00077678-00078022 trained to deal with pain pain is the DG2KwAx6kqg-00349-00078023-00078232 fifth vital sign it's not something they DG2KwAx6kqg-00350-00078233-00078364 were trained to do in school it's not DG2KwAx6kqg-00351-00078365-00078622 their fault and it's not your fault if DG2KwAx6kqg-00352-00078623-00078847 you're a patient and you go to a doctor DG2KwAx6kqg-00353-00078848-00079036 with trust that this doctor is going to DG2KwAx6kqg-00354-00079037-00079240 help deal with your pain they're going DG2KwAx6kqg-00355-00079241-00079396 to help you manage your pain and give DG2KwAx6kqg-00356-00079397-00079633 you pills so what we do is DG2KwAx6kqg-00357-00079634-00079828 physiotherapist is we give it specific DG2KwAx6kqg-00358-00079829-00080098 exercises and touch you with our hands DG2KwAx6kqg-00359-00080099-00080260 and help you loosen up the nervous DG2KwAx6kqg-00360-00080261-00080476 system and get those nerves and muscles DG2KwAx6kqg-00361-00080477-00080662 and joints to work as a team again and DG2KwAx6kqg-00362-00080663-00080893 reboot the brain and tell the brain to DG2KwAx6kqg-00363-00080894-00081094 turn off that pain signal that's natural DG2KwAx6kqg-00364-00081095-00081400 natural stuff and it's not quackery okay DG2KwAx6kqg-00365-00081401-00081649 this stuff is based on science it's DG2KwAx6kqg-00366-00081650-00081928 based on exercise physiology this stuff DG2KwAx6kqg-00367-00081929-00082018 has been proven in the literature DG2KwAx6kqg-00368-00082019-00082234 there's tons of studies out there and DG2KwAx6kqg-00369-00082235-00082399 physiotherapy is going to basically DG2KwAx6kqg-00370-00082400-00082720 eclipse a lot of these models once DG2KwAx6kqg-00371-00082721-00082858 people understand what we do for a DG2KwAx6kqg-00372-00082859-00083146 living so anyway so this boxer I gave DG2KwAx6kqg-00373-00083147-00083320 him this neural mobilization right here DG2KwAx6kqg-00374-00083321-00083536 and that is basically like catching the DG2KwAx6kqg-00375-00083537-00083680 ball behind your back so do it with me DG2KwAx6kqg-00376-00083681-00083785 if you're having shoulder pain it's DG2KwAx6kqg-00377-00083786-00083938 super easy I did it today at the gym I DG2KwAx6kqg-00378-00083939-00084151 was just at the gym basically catching a DG2KwAx6kqg-00379-00084152-00084352 ball depressing your shoulder down that DG2KwAx6kqg-00380-00084353-00084544 stretches the first grip over here and DG2KwAx6kqg-00381-00084545-00084760 internally rotating your shoulder back DG2KwAx6kqg-00382-00084761-00085135 like that from the back basically you're DG2KwAx6kqg-00383-00085136-00085453 stretching out all the nerves of the DG2KwAx6kqg-00384-00085454-00085690 posterior muscles of the shoulder that DG2KwAx6kqg-00385-00085691-00086065 give power to the rotator cuff then the DG2KwAx6kqg-00386-00086066-00086260 other exercise that I told them to do DG2KwAx6kqg-00387-00086261-00086446 was this one over here if you're with me DG2KwAx6kqg-00388-00086447-00086656 pay attention it's a super easy DG2KwAx6kqg-00389-00086657-00086944 do-it-yourself exercise I knew that this DG2KwAx6kqg-00390-00086945-00087207 area where the rib is the first rib and DG2KwAx6kqg-00391-00087208-00087357 I'm gonna show you right here DG2KwAx6kqg-00392-00087358-00087547 I just love to choose I love to teach DG2KwAx6kqg-00393-00087548-00087790 this stuff actually I've never taught in DG2KwAx6kqg-00394-00087791-00088138 a school but I teach a lot of my a a lot DG2KwAx6kqg-00395-00088139-00088312 of the young pre-physical therapy DG2KwAx6kqg-00396-00088313-00088618 students how to do this stuff they DG2KwAx6kqg-00397-00088619-00088789 really want to get into the field Jackie DG2KwAx6kqg-00398-00088790-00088975 was with me she learned a lot of this DG2KwAx6kqg-00399-00088976-00089191 stuff from me so she can give me a DG2KwAx6kqg-00400-00089192-00089467 thumbs up if she's there and basically DG2KwAx6kqg-00401-00089468-00089677 you got this first rib over here in the DG2KwAx6kqg-00402-00089678-00089698 fur DG2KwAx6kqg-00403-00089699-00089962 trip is where the nerves kind of layover DG2KwAx6kqg-00404-00089963-00090213 right all these wires come over so and DG2KwAx6kqg-00405-00090214-00090369 there's an attachment between the neck DG2KwAx6kqg-00406-00090370-00090706 and the first rib and those muscles the DG2KwAx6kqg-00407-00090707-00090880 anterior muscles of the neck are called DG2KwAx6kqg-00408-00090881-00091018 the scalenes and those muscles get DG2KwAx6kqg-00409-00091019-00091182 really really rarely taught because DG2KwAx6kqg-00410-00091183-00091399 we're trying to use those muscles when DG2KwAx6kqg-00411-00091400-00091642 we're boxing or moving just like they DG2KwAx6kqg-00412-00091643-00091921 did and that pinched the nerves that DG2KwAx6kqg-00413-00091922-00092169 come out into the shoulder very simple DG2KwAx6kqg-00414-00092170-00092394 stuff so what i did was i havnt the DG2KwAx6kqg-00415-00092395-00092611 second exercise i had to do was to try DG2KwAx6kqg-00416-00092612-00092913 to mobilize those scalene muscles to DG2KwAx6kqg-00417-00092914-00093154 unlock the pressure on the nerve in the DG2KwAx6kqg-00418-00093155-00093367 shoulder and it was life-changing this DG2KwAx6kqg-00419-00093368-00093712 boxer was able to crush it I I don't DG2KwAx6kqg-00420-00093713-00093969 think he won the fight but he went up DG2KwAx6kqg-00421-00093970-00094207 against an elite boxer in his class this DG2KwAx6kqg-00422-00094208-00094399 guy is going to be a world-class boxer DG2KwAx6kqg-00423-00094400-00094624 I'm proud to be able to help my friend DG2KwAx6kqg-00424-00094625-00095065 Al and his team win this get into these DG2KwAx6kqg-00425-00095066-00095353 fights and and and help these guys so DG2KwAx6kqg-00426-00095354-00095575 they can function I got another story DG2KwAx6kqg-00427-00095576-00095776 for you before I sign off as the pain DG2KwAx6kqg-00428-00095777-00095959 free maverick tonight this is an awesome DG2KwAx6kqg-00429-00095960-00096262 story about telehealth I bet you didn't DG2KwAx6kqg-00430-00096263-00096588 know that physiotherapist what we do we DG2KwAx6kqg-00431-00096589-00096868 can actually treat people remotely by DG2KwAx6kqg-00432-00096869-00097240 using phones like using FaceTime or DG2KwAx6kqg-00433-00097241-00097471 other types of methodologies a lot of DG2KwAx6kqg-00434-00097472-00097609 doctors are starting to get into this DG2KwAx6kqg-00435-00097610-00097900 now so here's a second story a lovely DG2KwAx6kqg-00436-00097901-00098143 story about another patient of mine DG2KwAx6kqg-00437-00098144-00098542 named Ari and re is probably around my DG2KwAx6kqg-00438-00098543-00098836 age 42 years old and he hits me up on a DG2KwAx6kqg-00439-00098837-00099097 text message the other night also DG2KwAx6kqg-00440-00099098-00099366 frantic this guy is a is a very DG2KwAx6kqg-00441-00099367-00099685 important guy a CFO he works in a big DG2KwAx6kqg-00442-00099686-00099951 company in a real estate firm he sits DG2KwAx6kqg-00443-00099952-00100240 all day his neck is always flex like DG2KwAx6kqg-00444-00100241-00100468 that and he puts a lot of pressure on DG2KwAx6kqg-00445-00100469-00100735 his neck and on the nerves of these DG2KwAx6kqg-00446-00100736-00100918 again we're going back to these DG2KwAx6kqg-00447-00100919-00101149 peripheral nerves that come out of the DG2KwAx6kqg-00448-00101150-00101371 neck the scalene muscles what happened DG2KwAx6kqg-00449-00101372-00101638 with this guy Ari yes guess what again DG2KwAx6kqg-00450-00101639-00102031 guys same story the doctors wanted to DG2KwAx6kqg-00451-00102032-00102349 give him oxycontin oxycodone for a very DG2KwAx6kqg-00452-00102350-00102630 severe upper trappy why would you do DG2KwAx6kqg-00453-00102631-00102881 that that is the most addictive DG2KwAx6kqg-00454-00102882-00103106 medication on the market that is where DG2KwAx6kqg-00455-00103107-00103307 you get that's where people get addicted DG2KwAx6kqg-00456-00103308-00103580 from and then those pills they go in the DG2KwAx6kqg-00457-00103581-00103875 in the cupboard where you where kids can DG2KwAx6kqg-00458-00103876-00104009 find them and they go and use them for DG2KwAx6kqg-00459-00104010-00104255 party drugs please give me a thumbs up DG2KwAx6kqg-00460-00104256-00104432 please give me a thumbs up if you're DG2KwAx6kqg-00461-00104433-00104585 still with me out there if I'm talking DG2KwAx6kqg-00462-00104586-00104765 to myself that's cool too because I'm DG2KwAx6kqg-00463-00104766-00104951 gonna end this very soon but if you're DG2KwAx6kqg-00464-00104952-00105164 out there and you believe Big Pharma is DG2KwAx6kqg-00465-00105165-00105438 the enemy especially in the world of DG2KwAx6kqg-00466-00105439-00105725 chronic pain give me a thumbs up show me DG2KwAx6kqg-00467-00105726-00105977 some love here I'm doing this from the DG2KwAx6kqg-00468-00105978-00106166 pain free maverick and all care PT DG2KwAx6kqg-00469-00106167-00106575 anyway Ari came to me severe pain in his DG2KwAx6kqg-00470-00106576-00106841 Indian shoulder and neck over here I DG2KwAx6kqg-00471-00106842-00107118 gave him a really simple a really simple DG2KwAx6kqg-00472-00107119-00107333 thank you for the thumbs up I appreciate DG2KwAx6kqg-00473-00107334-00107516 it another thumbs up I gave him a really DG2KwAx6kqg-00474-00107517-00107753 simple exercise to do if you're having DG2KwAx6kqg-00475-00107754-00107987 neck pain and you've been told you need DG2KwAx6kqg-00476-00107988-00108183 to take pills because you can't sleep at DG2KwAx6kqg-00477-00108183-00108326 night because it's really killing you DG2KwAx6kqg-00478-00108327-00108551 thank you William lucky thank you my man DG2KwAx6kqg-00479-00108552-00108795 I appreciate it an old patient of mine DG2KwAx6kqg-00480-00108796-00108962 gives him you give me a thumbs up and DG2KwAx6kqg-00481-00108963-00109170 coming here and patronizing me here on DG2KwAx6kqg-00482-00109171-00109352 the pain free maverick guys this is not DG2KwAx6kqg-00483-00109353-00109596 easy for me to do okay I know I look DG2KwAx6kqg-00484-00109597-00109794 like it's easy for me to get up here and DG2KwAx6kqg-00485-00109795-00109958 start blabbing away and teaching you DG2KwAx6kqg-00486-00109959-00110213 guys stuff on on Facebook but I'm a real DG2KwAx6kqg-00487-00110214-00110462 person just like you and public speaking DG2KwAx6kqg-00488-00110463-00110649 is something people cannot stand to do DG2KwAx6kqg-00489-00110650-00110852 and now I'm doing it and I'd rather do DG2KwAx6kqg-00490-00110853-00110994 it in front of the crowd I don't even DG2KwAx6kqg-00491-00110995-00111132 see you guys I don't even know you're DG2KwAx6kqg-00492-00111133-00111306 ser so I feel like I'm talking to myself DG2KwAx6kqg-00493-00111307-00111699 in the mirror but anyway it brings me a DG2KwAx6kqg-00494-00111700-00111965 lot of passion to do this and to step up DG2KwAx6kqg-00495-00111966-00112143 for my profession I'm proud to be a DG2KwAx6kqg-00496-00112144-00112320 physiotherapist I'm proud to help people DG2KwAx6kqg-00497-00112321-00112691 avoid the big pharma and I'm fighting DG2KwAx6kqg-00498-00112692-00112895 the fight for do-it-yourself pain free DG2KwAx6kqg-00499-00112896-00113196 solutions without medications avoiding DG2KwAx6kqg-00500-00113197-00113390 injections and unwarranted surgeries DG2KwAx6kqg-00501-00113391-00113643 this is a revolution guys whoever's with DG2KwAx6kqg-00502-00113644-00113847 me whoever is a physiotherapist on here DG2KwAx6kqg-00503-00113848-00114014 I want a thumbs up whoever's a patient DG2KwAx6kqg-00504-00114015-00114179 whoever somebody in the medical field DG2KwAx6kqg-00505-00114180-00114341 and believes in what I'm talking about DG2KwAx6kqg-00506-00114342-00114633 we need to stop big pharma from from DG2KwAx6kqg-00507-00114633-00114798 pumping doctors with these heavy heavy DG2KwAx6kqg-00508-00114799-00115020 pain pills anyway re going back to my DG2KwAx6kqg-00509-00115021-00115289 man re anyway this guy was in crazy pain DG2KwAx6kqg-00510-00115290-00115446 he couldn't work he couldn't sit you DG2KwAx6kqg-00511-00115447-00115679 couldn't sleep very high copay DG2KwAx6kqg-00512-00115680-00115886 eighty-five dollars okay DG2KwAx6kqg-00513-00115888-00116121 he pays $3,000 a month for his Oxford DG2KwAx6kqg-00514-00116122-00116358 insurance and he has to pay $85 Thank DG2KwAx6kqg-00515-00116358-00116759 You William $85 to come see me okay DG2KwAx6kqg-00516-00116760-00116928 and I'm more than that I cost more than DG2KwAx6kqg-00517-00116929-00117114 that so I did this guy a favor I said DG2KwAx6kqg-00518-00117115-00117198 forget about it DG2KwAx6kqg-00519-00117199-00117402 don't come see me he said what am I DG2KwAx6kqg-00520-00117403-00117654 gonna do I said meet me over Skype okay DG2KwAx6kqg-00521-00117655-00117933 let's do it over Skype we did some text DG2KwAx6kqg-00522-00117933-00118128 messaging he told me his symptoms just DG2KwAx6kqg-00523-00118129-00118377 like I did with day that boxer I told DG2KwAx6kqg-00524-00118378-00118473 him what to do DG2KwAx6kqg-00525-00118474-00118743 he hit me up on PayPal give me a little DG2KwAx6kqg-00526-00118744-00119021 bit of money it wasn't as expensive as DG2KwAx6kqg-00527-00119022-00119298 $275 consultation he did not go to a DG2KwAx6kqg-00528-00119299-00119604 doctor he did not have to go to a doctor DG2KwAx6kqg-00529-00119605-00119796 there was no need for it you did not DG2KwAx6kqg-00530-00119797-00120027 have trauma I did not fall from a ladder DG2KwAx6kqg-00531-00120028-00120284 god forbid he did not have an accident DG2KwAx6kqg-00532-00120285-00120509 he did not have strain or anything DG2KwAx6kqg-00533-00120510-00120681 something that I would think there was DG2KwAx6kqg-00534-00120682-00120879 traumatic happening there this was a DG2KwAx6kqg-00535-00120880-00121125 problem in his soft tissues and his DG2KwAx6kqg-00536-00121126-00121358 nervous system was overworking and DG2KwAx6kqg-00537-00121359-00121535 protecting that part of his body because DG2KwAx6kqg-00538-00121536-00121755 he sits like this all day long if you DG2KwAx6kqg-00539-00121756-00121958 sit like this all day long for four DG2KwAx6kqg-00540-00121959-00122241 years and you work out and you still DG2KwAx6kqg-00541-00122242-00122373 build your muscles like that you're DG2KwAx6kqg-00542-00122374-00122544 gonna end up with in it with not a DG2KwAx6kqg-00543-00122545-00122757 pinched nerve but the nerves in here are DG2KwAx6kqg-00544-00122758-00123006 not going to move around so much okay so DG2KwAx6kqg-00545-00123007-00123235 what happened with him is very simply DG2KwAx6kqg-00546-00123236-00123516 exercising second exercise I promised DG2KwAx6kqg-00547-00123517-00123633 I'm going to show you that I gave day DG2KwAx6kqg-00548-00123633-00123948 also is that first rib mobilization this DG2KwAx6kqg-00549-00123949-00124131 rib over here where that rib is and DG2KwAx6kqg-00550-00124132-00124310 where the nerves come out I gave him DG2KwAx6kqg-00551-00124311-00124511 that exercise and let me show you how I DG2KwAx6kqg-00552-00124513-00124980 did it I get him up on skype I show him 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usually like to give somebody DG2KwAx6kqg-00567-00128283-00128589 to see if it reduces or centralizes it DG2KwAx6kqg-00568-00128590-00128783 takes away the pressure on the brachial DG2KwAx6kqg-00569-00128784-00129051 plexus and the facets or the joints of DG2KwAx6kqg-00570-00129052-00129126 the neck DG2KwAx6kqg-00571-00129127-00129315 and it gave him some relief but it DG2KwAx6kqg-00572-00129316-00129509 didn't fix him what really helped them DG2KwAx6kqg-00573-00129510-00129734 was a second mobility exercise and he DG2KwAx6kqg-00574-00129735-00129870 was having it right here on the left DG2KwAx6kqg-00575-00129871-00130136 side just like day and this is called a DG2KwAx6kqg-00576-00130138-00130446 first rib mobilization and basically had DG2KwAx6kqg-00577-00130447-00130667 him rotate his neck to the same side of DG2KwAx6kqg-00578-00130668-00130953 the pain while bringing his shoulder DG2KwAx6kqg-00579-00130954-00131280 across his body by doing that he was DG2KwAx6kqg-00580-00131281-00131520 tweaking this area over here he was DG2KwAx6kqg-00581-00131521-00131796 opening up the pressure in that area DG2KwAx6kqg-00582-00131797-00131934 that was giving him pain in the upper DG2KwAx6kqg-00583-00131935-00132165 trap and those really two simple DG2KwAx6kqg-00584-00132166-00132411 exercises I gave you guys the radial DG2KwAx6kqg-00585-00132412-00132686 nerve the posterior radial nerve DG2KwAx6kqg-00586-00132687-00132936 mobilization over here and and in the DG2KwAx6kqg-00587-00132937-00133179 first rib really simple stuff most DG2KwAx6kqg-00588-00133180-00133368 physiotherapists don't treat like this DG2KwAx6kqg-00589-00133369-00133641 they really don't unfortunately a lot of DG2KwAx6kqg-00590-00133642-00133932 them still are old school the old school DG2KwAx6kqg-00591-00133933-00134085 ones are still treating with hot packs DG2KwAx6kqg-00592-00134086-00134277 and cold packs and stimulators but you DG2KwAx6kqg-00593-00134278-00134448 can find 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DP3hFtbfj5M-00020-00004164-00004336 nationally so you change your scale from DP3hFtbfj5M-00021-00004337-00004577 a global scale to a national scale where DP3hFtbfj5M-00022-00004578-00004775 after further investigation you could DP3hFtbfj5M-00023-00004776-00004979 see that in the United States of America DP3hFtbfj5M-00024-00004980-00005185 there was 35 DP3hFtbfj5M-00025-00005186-00005477 766 fatal vehicle crashes in the year DP3hFtbfj5M-00026-00005478-00005717 2020 which could lead you to analyze DP3hFtbfj5M-00027-00005718-00005951 Federal documents and policies to gain DP3hFtbfj5M-00028-00005952-00006131 Insight in into how the United States DP3hFtbfj5M-00029-00006132-00006395 federal government is working to improve DP3hFtbfj5M-00030-00006396-00006617 car safety standards throughout the DP3hFtbfj5M-00031-00006618-00006881 nation and use National legislation to DP3hFtbfj5M-00032-00006881-00007060 decrease traffic related death or DP3hFtbfj5M-00033-00007061-00007217 perhaps a more 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DP3hFtbfj5M-00047-00010082-00010403 25.4 deaths per 100 000 people then of DP3hFtbfj5M-00048-00010404-00010564 course there is the local scale where DP3hFtbfj5M-00049-00010565-00010756 you could look at data from your own DP3hFtbfj5M-00050-00010757-00010967 City and try to identify different DP3hFtbfj5M-00051-00010968-00011237 intersections that have higher rates of DP3hFtbfj5M-00052-00011238-00011399 accidents once identified you could DP3hFtbfj5M-00053-00011400-00011537 direct tax dollars to those DP3hFtbfj5M-00054-00011538-00011777 intersections to identify why they have DP3hFtbfj5M-00055-00011778-00011987 higher rates of accidents and then could DP3hFtbfj5M-00056-00011988-00012220 work to try and correct the problem by DP3hFtbfj5M-00057-00012221-00012442 removing blind spots or adding traffic DP3hFtbfj5M-00058-00012443-00012670 lights instead of stop signs at busier DP3hFtbfj5M-00059-00012671-00012808 intersections we can see that depending DP3hFtbfj5M-00060-00012809-00013013 on the scale we use to approach a topic DP3hFtbfj5M-00061-00013013-00013169 we gain different insight into different DP3hFtbfj5M-00062-00013169-00013385 levels of geographic data which can be DP3hFtbfj5M-00063-00013386-00013541 used in a variety of different ways as DP3hFtbfj5M-00064-00013541-00013738 our scale moves from Global to local we DP3hFtbfj5M-00065-00013740-00013901 gain more details and specific DP3hFtbfj5M-00066-00013902-00014086 information from the data and this is DP3hFtbfj5M-00067-00014087-00014279 just one example of how governments use DP3hFtbfj5M-00068-00014280-00014477 Geographic data local governments will DP3hFtbfj5M-00069-00014478-00014693 also use data to determine where to DP3hFtbfj5M-00070-00014694-00014969 build new schools and create new School DP3hFtbfj5M-00071-00014969-00015130 boundaries they will use data to figure DP3hFtbfj5M-00072-00015131-00015377 out how land should be zoned which will DP3hFtbfj5M-00073-00015378-00015635 dictate how the land can be used and DP3hFtbfj5M-00074-00015636-00015821 what buildings and industries can be DP3hFtbfj5M-00075-00015822-00015988 built Regional governments use data to DP3hFtbfj5M-00076-00015990-00016205 create voting districts and determine DP3hFtbfj5M-00077-00016206-00016421 which project should get State funding DP3hFtbfj5M-00078-00016422-00016589 they also work with cities around the DP3hFtbfj5M-00079-00016590-00016841 region to allocate funding for roads and DP3hFtbfj5M-00080-00016842-00017027 infrastructure projects to promote DP3hFtbfj5M-00081-00017028-00017189 Commerce throughout the area National DP3hFtbfj5M-00082-00017190-00017393 governments use Geographic data to help DP3hFtbfj5M-00083-00017394-00017591 determine which laws should be passed DP3hFtbfj5M-00084-00017592-00017843 change tax policies determine where DP3hFtbfj5M-00085-00017844-00018071 Federal funding should go and to better DP3hFtbfj5M-00086-00018072-00018293 understand the different needs and wants DP3hFtbfj5M-00087-00018294-00018491 Society has and will have in the future DP3hFtbfj5M-00088-00018492-00018635 and that's just scratching the surface DP3hFtbfj5M-00089-00018636-00018893 on how geospatial data can be used in DP3hFtbfj5M-00090-00018894-00019049 order to help make decisions so we've DP3hFtbfj5M-00091-00019050-00019193 already looked at how governments on DP3hFtbfj5M-00092-00019194-00019408 different scales use geospatial data to DP3hFtbfj5M-00093-00019409-00019600 make decisions but what about businesses DP3hFtbfj5M-00094-00019601-00019780 on a local scale a business can look at DP3hFtbfj5M-00095-00019781-00019967 how a city is zoned to see which DP3hFtbfj5M-00096-00019968-00020194 locations could be used for a storefront DP3hFtbfj5M-00097-00020195-00020369 businesses would also cross-reference DP3hFtbfj5M-00098-00020370-00020543 census data to see where people are DP3hFtbfj5M-00099-00020544-00020764 living in a city and look at the medium DP3hFtbfj5M-00100-00020765-00021005 income of residents to determine where DP3hFtbfj5M-00101-00021006-00021185 their customers are and where the DP3hFtbfj5M-00102-00021186-00021305 business should open up a store DP3hFtbfj5M-00103-00021306-00021497 regionally businesses can compare the DP3hFtbfj5M-00104-00021498-00021700 sales of different stores located in DP3hFtbfj5M-00105-00021701-00021869 different regions to look for stores DP3hFtbfj5M-00106-00021870-00022121 that are outperforming others to help DP3hFtbfj5M-00107-00022122-00022325 improve their underperforming store or DP3hFtbfj5M-00108-00022326-00022480 could look at the different tax rates of DP3hFtbfj5M-00109-00022481-00022630 different Regional governments to DP3hFtbfj5M-00110-00022631-00022847 determine which geographic area would be DP3hFtbfj5M-00111-00022848-00023033 best for them to locate if we look at a DP3hFtbfj5M-00112-00023034-00023200 national or global scale we can see DP3hFtbfj5M-00113-00023201-00023436 businesses look at countries tax rates DP3hFtbfj5M-00114-00023437-00023722 environmental standards employment and DP3hFtbfj5M-00115-00023723-00023963 labor laws and other regulations that DP3hFtbfj5M-00116-00023964-00024161 could could increase production costs DP3hFtbfj5M-00117-00024162-00024322 this allows businesses to determine DP3hFtbfj5M-00118-00024323-00024544 where to produce their products and DP3hFtbfj5M-00119-00024545-00024725 allows them to maximize their profits DP3hFtbfj5M-00120-00024726-00024886 and minimize their cost now many of the DP3hFtbfj5M-00121-00024887-00025025 different data points that I reference DP3hFtbfj5M-00122-00025026-00025241 for businesses and governments come from DP3hFtbfj5M-00123-00025242-00025397 Census Data throughout AP Human DP3hFtbfj5M-00124-00025398-00025577 Geography you will use information from DP3hFtbfj5M-00125-00025578-00025768 the Census to better understand a place DP3hFtbfj5M-00126-00025769-00025943 in the United States the census is 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let's say that you currently DP3hFtbfj5M-00141-00028980-00029243 live in Georgia but you want to move up DP3hFtbfj5M-00142-00029244-00029429 to the great state of Minnesota it's DP3hFtbfj5M-00143-00029430-00029596 just something about those nice DP3hFtbfj5M-00144-00029597-00029789 Minnesota winters that just sounds DP3hFtbfj5M-00145-00029789-00029968 really appealing to you before you go DP3hFtbfj5M-00146-00029969-00030143 purchase your new home you'll most DP3hFtbfj5M-00147-00030144-00030358 likely look for a city that will be near DP3hFtbfj5M-00148-00030360-00030533 where you will work or at least has DP3hFtbfj5M-00149-00030533-00030707 opportunities for you to work you will DP3hFtbfj5M-00150-00030708-00030893 then want to look at the average cost of DP3hFtbfj5M-00151-00030894-00031108 homes to find a housing market that you DP3hFtbfj5M-00152-00031110-00031289 can afford as you start to refine your DP3hFtbfj5M-00153-00031289-00031493 search you'll start to look at the local 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DP3hFtbfj5M-00167-00034278-00034535 use a GPS to get to your new home which DP3hFtbfj5M-00168-00034536-00034840 is more geospatial data no no look it DP3hFtbfj5M-00169-00034841-00035140 means go up to the right Bear right over DP3hFtbfj5M-00170-00035141-00035345 the bridge and hook up with 307. make a DP3hFtbfj5M-00171-00035346-00035495 right maybe it's a shortcut Dwight it DP3hFtbfj5M-00172-00035496-00035699 said go to the right it can't mean that DP3hFtbfj5M-00173-00035700-00036367 there's a link it knows where it is DP3hFtbfj5M-00174-00036368-00036635 so Geographic data is important and DP3hFtbfj5M-00175-00036636-00036839 depending on your scale can be used in DP3hFtbfj5M-00176-00036840-00036977 different ways all right that was just a DP3hFtbfj5M-00177-00036978-00037174 quick look at Geographic data now comes DP3hFtbfj5M-00178-00037175-00037312 the time to practice what we've learned DP3hFtbfj5M-00179-00037313-00037474 answer the questions on the screen and DP3hFtbfj5M-00180-00037475-00037618 when you're done check your answers in DP3hFtbfj5M-00181-00037619-00037817 the comment section down below also if DP3hFtbfj5M-00182-00037818-00037955 you're looking for help with your AP DP3hFtbfj5M-00183-00037956-00038189 human geography class check out my DP3hFtbfj5M-00184-00038190-00038411 ultimate review packet it has resources DP3hFtbfj5M-00185-00038412-00038590 for every single unit from practice DP3hFtbfj5M-00186-00038591-00038909 quizzes review videos study guides frq DP3hFtbfj5M-00187-00038910-00039137 help and much more it's a great resource DP3hFtbfj5M-00188-00039138-00039274 that can help you get an A in your class DP3hFtbfj5M-00189-00039275-00039496 and a five on the national exam as DP3hFtbfj5M-00190-00039497-00039707 always I'm Mr sin thank you so much for DP3hFtbfj5M-00191-00039708-00039857 watching and I'll see you next time DP3hFtbfj5M-00192-00039858-00040136 online DQLbvuMgKNE-00000-00000572-00000761 greetings and welcome to the DQLbvuMgKNE-00001-00000762-00001000 introduction to astronomy one of the DQLbvuMgKNE-00002-00001001-00001169 things that I like to do in each of my DQLbvuMgKNE-00003-00001170-00001373 introductory astronomy classes is to DQLbvuMgKNE-00004-00001374-00001553 begin the class with the Astronomy DQLbvuMgKNE-00005-00001554-00001805 Picture of the Day from the NASA website DQLbvuMgKNE-00006-00001805-00002034 that is DQLbvuMgKNE-00007-00002035-00002351 apod.nasa.gov apod DQLbvuMgKNE-00008-00002352-00002873 and today's picture for May 16th of 2023 DQLbvuMgKNE-00009-00002874-00003173 well it is titled total eclipse the Big DQLbvuMgKNE-00010-00003174-00003581 Corona so what do we see here well this DQLbvuMgKNE-00011-00003582-00003809 is an image of the total total solar DQLbvuMgKNE-00012-00003810-00004038 eclipse that occurred about a month ago DQLbvuMgKNE-00013-00004039-00004409 and was visible in Australia or at least DQLbvuMgKNE-00014-00004410-00004631 off the Western portions of Australia DQLbvuMgKNE-00015-00004632-00004897 and into the ocean surrounding oceans DQLbvuMgKNE-00016-00004898-00005231 now an eclipse occurs when our moon DQLbvuMgKNE-00017-00005232-00005470 passes in front of the Sun and blocks DQLbvuMgKNE-00018-00005471-00005770 out its light and a total solar eclipse DQLbvuMgKNE-00019-00005771-00005968 occurs when they are lined up perfectly DQLbvuMgKNE-00020-00005969-00006251 and the moon completely blocks out all DQLbvuMgKNE-00021-00006252-00006527 of the Sun's light in a partial eclipse DQLbvuMgKNE-00022-00006528-00006713 only a portion of the sun's surface DQLbvuMgKNE-00023-00006714-00006970 would be blocked out and it takes a DQLbvuMgKNE-00024-00006972-00007156 total eclipse in order to be able to see DQLbvuMgKNE-00025-00007158-00007505 the corona as we see around the edge of DQLbvuMgKNE-00026-00007506-00007739 the sun here that is the outermost DQLbvuMgKNE-00027-00007740-00008177 region of the solar atmosphere and in a DQLbvuMgKNE-00028-00008178-00008363 way shows us something about the solar DQLbvuMgKNE-00029-00008364-00008519 activity DQLbvuMgKNE-00030-00008520-00008819 when the corona is very prominent the DQLbvuMgKNE-00031-00008820-00009113 sun is being much more active and it is DQLbvuMgKNE-00032-00009114-00009346 energized and heated by the magnetic DQLbvuMgKNE-00033-00009347-00009556 fields of the sun which whip up the DQLbvuMgKNE-00034-00009557-00009827 particles to very high speeds and DQLbvuMgKNE-00035-00009828-00010042 therefore very high temperatures so DQLbvuMgKNE-00036-00010043-00010210 while there's not a lot of particles DQLbvuMgKNE-00037-00010211-00010492 there they are moving extremely fast and DQLbvuMgKNE-00038-00010493-00010745 that's what we mean by temperature is DQLbvuMgKNE-00039-00010746-00011099 the speed at which particles are moving DQLbvuMgKNE-00040-00011100-00011327 now you can also see some of the pink DQLbvuMgKNE-00041-00011328-00011596 glow around the edge which is solar DQLbvuMgKNE-00042-00011597-00011873 prominences also associated with solar DQLbvuMgKNE-00043-00011874-00012173 magnetic fields as material is lifted DQLbvuMgKNE-00044-00012174-00012431 off the surface of the Sun these are DQLbvuMgKNE-00045-00012432-00012808 denser regions and more material being DQLbvuMgKNE-00046-00012809-00013030 lifted up there and although I say DQLbvuMgKNE-00047-00013031-00013241 they're denser they're still very low DQLbvuMgKNE-00048-00013241-00013486 density compared to things solid things DQLbvuMgKNE-00049-00013487-00013672 here on Earth DQLbvuMgKNE-00050-00013673-00014044 now the solar eclipse here was one of DQLbvuMgKNE-00051-00014045-00014272 several eclipses that have occurred over DQLbvuMgKNE-00052-00014273-00014501 the past few years we had a very DQLbvuMgKNE-00053-00014502-00014711 prominent Eclipse a clock across North DQLbvuMgKNE-00054-00014712-00015107 America in 2017 and for those in North DQLbvuMgKNE-00055-00015108-00015388 America another one is coming in April DQLbvuMgKNE-00056-00015390-00015805 of next year so on April 8th of 2024 DQLbvuMgKNE-00057-00015806-00016121 there will be a total solar eclipse that DQLbvuMgKNE-00058-00016122-00016325 will be visible in most of the Central DQLbvuMgKNE-00059-00016326-00016613 and Eastern portions of the United DQLbvuMgKNE-00060-00016614-00016972 States now the partial eclipse will be DQLbvuMgKNE-00061-00016973-00017177 available from much of that region from DQLbvuMgKNE-00062-00017178-00017399 almost all of that region and if you're DQLbvuMgKNE-00063-00017400-00017597 on the central path what we call the DQLbvuMgKNE-00064-00017598-00017908 path of totality where the Moon Shadow DQLbvuMgKNE-00065-00017909-00018125 strikes Earth's surface you would have DQLbvuMgKNE-00066-00018126-00018383 the opportunity to see something similar DQLbvuMgKNE-00067-00018384-00018725 to this and you would be able to see the DQLbvuMgKNE-00068-00018726-00018994 sun the sun being blocked out by the DQLbvuMgKNE-00069-00018995-00019397 moon and possibly see the corona as well DQLbvuMgKNE-00070-00019398-00019630 now while normally you cannot see near DQLbvuMgKNE-00071-00019631-00019919 as much detail fine detail with the DQLbvuMgKNE-00072-00019920-00020147 naked eye as you can with the camera DQLbvuMgKNE-00073-00020148-00020441 exposure in many cases the coronal DQLbvuMgKNE-00074-00020442-00020783 features are able to be seen by the eye DQLbvuMgKNE-00075-00020784-00021130 very well in that dark light so you get DQLbvuMgKNE-00076-00021131-00021311 a good chance to be able to see the DQLbvuMgKNE-00077-00021312-00021593 corona as well as solar prominences DQLbvuMgKNE-00078-00021594-00021850 since the sun will likely still be very DQLbvuMgKNE-00079-00021851-00022241 active at that time on at that point DQLbvuMgKNE-00080-00022242-00022535 when the moon will pass in front of the DQLbvuMgKNE-00081-00022536-00022822 Sun a little less than a year from now DQLbvuMgKNE-00082-00022823-00023122 so that was our picture of the day for DQLbvuMgKNE-00083-00023123-00023555 May 16th of 2023 it was titled total DQLbvuMgKNE-00084-00023556-00023861 eclipse the Big Corona we'll be back DQLbvuMgKNE-00085-00023862-00023999 again tomorrow for the next picture DQLbvuMgKNE-00086-00024000-00024347 previewed to be sun Bridge so we'll see DQLbvuMgKNE-00087-00024348-00024563 what that is about tomorrow and until DQLbvuMgKNE-00088-00024564-00024875 then have a great day everyone and I DQLbvuMgKNE-00089-00024876-00025201 will see you in class DRAlVJs4XCE-00000-00000043-00000323 Borden Inc was an American producer of DRAlVJs4XCE-00001-00000324-00000524 food and beverage products consumer DRAlVJs4XCE-00002-00000525-00000833 products and industrial products at one DRAlVJs4XCE-00003-00000834-00001045 time the company was the largest US DRAlVJs4XCE-00004-00001046-00001352 producer of Dereon pasta products its DRAlVJs4XCE-00005-00001353-00001603 food division Borden foods was based in DRAlVJs4XCE-00006-00001604-00001838 Columbus Ohio and focused primarily on DRAlVJs4XCE-00007-00001839-00002101 pasta and pasta sauces bakery products DRAlVJs4XCE-00008-00002102-00002354 sacks processed cheese jams and jellies DRAlVJs4XCE-00009-00002355-00002650 and ice cream it was best known for its DRAlVJs4XCE-00010-00002651-00002842 board and ice cream meadow gold milk DRAlVJs4XCE-00011-00002843-00003071 cream at pasta and Borden condensed milk DRAlVJs4XCE-00012-00003072-00003353 brands its consumer products an DRAlVJs4XCE-00013-00003354-00003554 industrial segment marketed wallpaper DRAlVJs4XCE-00014-00003554-00003959 adhesives plastics and resins by 1993 DRAlVJs4XCE-00015-00003960-00004313 sales of food products accounted for 67% DRAlVJs4XCE-00016-00004314-00004570 of its revenues it was also known for DRAlVJs4XCE-00017-00004571-00004892 its Elmer's glue and Krazy Glue after DRAlVJs4XCE-00018-00004893-00005075 significant financial losses in the DRAlVJs4XCE-00019-00005076-00005315 early 1990s and a leveraged buyout by DRAlVJs4XCE-00020-00005316-00005666 KKR in 1995 Borden divested itself of DRAlVJs4XCE-00021-00005667-00005852 its various divisions brands and DRAlVJs4XCE-00022-00005853-00006179 businesses KKR shuttered Borden's food DRAlVJs4XCE-00023-00006180-00006493 products operations in 2001 and divested DRAlVJs4XCE-00024-00006494-00006795 all its other Borden operations in 2005 DRAlVJs4XCE-00025-00006797-00007055 Borden dairy brands are currently used DRAlVJs4XCE-00026-00007056-00007270 by both Dean Foods in Group olala DRAlVJs4XCE-00027-00007272-00007495 as Borden milk products for milk and by DRAlVJs4XCE-00028-00007497-00007712 Dairy Farmers of America for cheese as DRAlVJs4XCE-00029-00007713-00008120 of January 2015 group olala of Durango DRAlVJs4XCE-00030-00008120-00008339 Mexico is the new owner of all board and DRAlVJs4XCE-00031-00008340-00008756 trademarks in the u.s. topic founding DRAlVJs4XCE-00032-00008757-00008956 the company was founded by Gail Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00033-00008957-00009242 jr. in 1857 in Connecticut as Gail DRAlVJs4XCE-00034-00009243-00009458 Borden jr. and company its primary DRAlVJs4XCE-00035-00009459-00009746 product was condensed milk struggling DRAlVJs4XCE-00036-00009747-00009949 financially the company was saved when DRAlVJs4XCE-00037-00009950-00010139 Jeremiah Milbank a partner in the DRAlVJs4XCE-00038-00010140-00010403 wholesale food distributor I&R Milbank & DRAlVJs4XCE-00039-00010404-00010610 Co and the son-in-law of banker Joseph DRAlVJs4XCE-00040-00010611-00010883 Lake agreed to invest in the quad 50% of DRAlVJs4XCE-00041-00010884-00011141 the stock the company changed its name DRAlVJs4XCE-00042-00011142-00011392 in 1858 to the New York condensed milk DRAlVJs4XCE-00043-00011393-00011663 company the company prospered during the DRAlVJs4XCE-00044-00011664-00011870 Civil War by selling condensed milk to DRAlVJs4XCE-00045-00011871-00012145 Union armies Borden began selling DRAlVJs4XCE-00046-00012146-00012439 processed milk to consumers in 1875 and DRAlVJs4XCE-00047-00012440-00012646 pioneered the use of glass milk bottles DRAlVJs4XCE-00048-00012647-00013013 in 1885 Borden began selling evaporated DRAlVJs4XCE-00049-00013013-00013313 milk in 1892 and expanded into Canada in DRAlVJs4XCE-00050-00013313-00013449 1891 DRAlVJs4XCE-00051-00013450-00013930 you DRAlVJs4XCE-00052-00013931-00014436 topic growth DRAlVJs4XCE-00053-00014437-00014640 the company changed its name to the DRAlVJs4XCE-00054-00014641-00014904 board and condensed milk company in 1899 DRAlVJs4XCE-00055-00014905-00015261 and became the Borden company in 1919 it DRAlVJs4XCE-00056-00015262-00015528 suffered a legal setback in 1912 when a DRAlVJs4XCE-00057-00015529-00015693 federal appellate court held that the DRAlVJs4XCE-00058-00015694-00015879 board and ice-cream Co could sell ice DRAlVJs4XCE-00059-00015880-00016050 cream under the Borden name because DRAlVJs4XCE-00060-00016051-00016254 Borden's condensed milk sold only milk DRAlVJs4XCE-00061-00016255-00016518 not ice cream but the limit on its DRAlVJs4XCE-00062-00016519-00016758 products was short-lived it expanded DRAlVJs4XCE-00063-00016759-00016955 rapidly buying numerous dairies ice DRAlVJs4XCE-00064-00016956-00017202 cream manufacturers cheese producers and DRAlVJs4XCE-00065-00017203-00017499 minced meat processors taking advantage DRAlVJs4XCE-00066-00017500-00017703 of its many herds of cattle the company DRAlVJs4XCE-00067-00017704-00017862 became involved in rendering in the DRAlVJs4XCE-00068-00017863-00018135 manufacture of adhesives in World War DRAlVJs4XCE-00069-00018136-00018200 two DRAlVJs4XCE-00070-00018201-00018353 Borden pioneered the American DRAlVJs4XCE-00071-00018354-00018525 manufacturer of non-dairy creamer DRAlVJs4XCE-00072-00018526-00018878 instant coffee and powdered foods Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00073-00018879-00019175 became a holding company in 1929 but its DRAlVJs4XCE-00074-00019176-00019472 operations were reunified in 1936 and DRAlVJs4XCE-00075-00019473-00019764 its subsidiaries became divisions Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00076-00019765-00019905 and other dairy companies were DRAlVJs4XCE-00077-00019906-00020190 investigated in 1938 for violations of DRAlVJs4XCE-00078-00020191-00020361 the Sherman Antitrust Act but the DRAlVJs4XCE-00079-00020362-00020553 charges were dropped after Borden signed DRAlVJs4XCE-00080-00020554-00020868 a consent decree in 1940 in the 1950s DRAlVJs4XCE-00081-00020869-00021047 Borden moved into the printing ink DRAlVJs4XCE-00082-00021048-00021311 fertilizer and polyvinyl chloride PVC DRAlVJs4XCE-00083-00021312-00021753 plastics business by 1961 it was making DRAlVJs4XCE-00084-00021754-00022069 7% of all raw PVC in the United States DRAlVJs4XCE-00085-00022070-00022455 by 1968 Borden's international chemical DRAlVJs4XCE-00086-00022456-00022631 and petroleum divisions had grown so DRAlVJs4XCE-00087-00022632-00022815 large that board and created the Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00088-00022816-00022986 Inc international division to manage DRAlVJs4XCE-00089-00022987-00023205 them the company owned the Danish DRAlVJs4XCE-00090-00023206-00023802 company coccio from 1976 to 1999 in 1987 DRAlVJs4XCE-00091-00023803-00023991 Borden spun off some of its chemicals DRAlVJs4XCE-00092-00023992-00024252 business in a public offering Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00093-00024253-00024465 retained a small financial investment in DRAlVJs4XCE-00094-00024466-00024666 the new company known legally as Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00095-00024667-00024884 chemicals in plastics operating limited DRAlVJs4XCE-00096-00024885-00025443 partnership BCP olp DRAlVJs4XCE-00097-00025444-00025956 topic board and food DRAlVJs4XCE-00098-00025957-00026187 the food products division was spun off DRAlVJs4XCE-00099-00026188-00026412 as Borden Food Corporation when Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00100-00026413-00026789 Inc became a holding company in 1929 the DRAlVJs4XCE-00101-00026791-00027002 holding company reversed itself thirteen DRAlVJs4XCE-00102-00027004-00027195 years later when it required its child DRAlVJs4XCE-00103-00027195-00027483 company in the 1950s the parent company DRAlVJs4XCE-00104-00027483-00027608 went on a buying spree DRAlVJs4XCE-00105-00027610-00027804 swallowing up companies such as Wyler's DRAlVJs4XCE-00106-00027805-00027987 which made boo you're empowered soft DRAlVJs4XCE-00107-00027988-00028197 drinks real ermine a manufacturer of DRAlVJs4XCE-00108-00028198-00028419 synthetic and reconstituted lemon juice DRAlVJs4XCE-00109-00028420-00028680 Cracker Jack campfire brand marshmallows DRAlVJs4XCE-00110-00028681-00028935 wise foods are makers of potato chips DRAlVJs4XCE-00111-00028936-00029169 and other snack foods and bomber makers DRAlVJs4XCE-00112-00029170-00029283 of jellies and jams DRAlVJs4XCE-00113-00029283-00029430 although Borden retrenched in the DRAlVJs4XCE-00114-00029431-00029691 inflationary 1970s it embarked on a DRAlVJs4XCE-00115-00029692-00029889 second wave of mergers and acquisitions DRAlVJs4XCE-00116-00029889-00030189 in the 1980s it purchased the prince DRAlVJs4XCE-00117-00030189-00030399 pastor manufacturing concern giving DRAlVJs4XCE-00118-00030400-00030630 Borden 30 percent of the domestic pasta DRAlVJs4XCE-00119-00030631-00030977 market in 1986 it purchased the dairy DRAlVJs4XCE-00120-00030979-00031152 products division of Beatrice foods DRAlVJs4XCE-00121-00031152-00031394 including the meadow gold brand DRAlVJs4XCE-00122-00031395-00031583 stockholders blamed the company's DRAlVJs4XCE-00123-00031585-00031788 decline on mismanagement the incurrence DRAlVJs4XCE-00124-00031789-00031952 of excessive debt to finance its DRAlVJs4XCE-00125-00031954-00032154 numerous acquisitions and several recent DRAlVJs4XCE-00126-00032155-00032770 restructurings DRAlVJs4XCE-00127-00032771-00033293 topic demise DRAlVJs4XCE-00128-00033294-00033533 Borden suffered significant losses for DRAlVJs4XCE-00129-00033534-00033980 the period 1991 to 1993 a 1991 DRAlVJs4XCE-00130-00033981-00034169 restructuring failed to integrate the DRAlVJs4XCE-00131-00034170-00034366 company's brands and marketing efforts DRAlVJs4XCE-00132-00034367-00034712 when whole milk prices dropped in 1992 DRAlVJs4XCE-00133-00034713-00034928 Borden food did not lower its prices DRAlVJs4XCE-00134-00034929-00035153 causing a significant drop in market DRAlVJs4XCE-00135-00035154-00035327 share from which it was not able to DRAlVJs4XCE-00136-00035328-00035627 recover Borden divested itself of nearly DRAlVJs4XCE-00137-00035628-00035897 a third of its businesses in 1993 but DRAlVJs4XCE-00138-00035898-00036062 could not find a buyer for its snack DRAlVJs4XCE-00139-00036063-00036314 food concerns in deep financial DRAlVJs4XCE-00140-00036315-00036521 difficulty Borden was bought out by DRAlVJs4XCE-00141-00036522-00036929 Kohlberg Kravis Roberts KKR in 1995 play DRAlVJs4XCE-00142-00036930-00037169 kr increased the pace of divestiture but DRAlVJs4XCE-00143-00037170-00037406 was unable to write the company the DRAlVJs4XCE-00144-00037407-00037592 company's Borden meadow gold dairy DRAlVJs4XCE-00145-00037593-00037916 subsidiary was sold in September 1997 to DRAlVJs4XCE-00146-00037917-00038072 Southern foods controlled by the DRAlVJs4XCE-00147-00038073-00038261 mid-america dairyman later the Dairy DRAlVJs4XCE-00148-00038262-00038543 Farmers of America Borden licensed the DRAlVJs4XCE-00149-00038544-00038738 use of LC the cow but retained ownership DRAlVJs4XCE-00150-00038739-00039023 of the trademark southern foods was DRAlVJs4XCE-00151-00039024-00039272 acquired by suiza Foods now Dean Foods DRAlVJs4XCE-00152-00039273-00039485 the dairies are now owned by Dean Foods DRAlVJs4XCE-00153-00039486-00039737 and board and milk products Dairy DRAlVJs4XCE-00154-00039738-00039944 Farmers of America retains board and DRAlVJs4XCE-00155-00039945-00040409 cheese in 1997 KKR focused the company DRAlVJs4XCE-00156-00040410-00040601 solely on its pasta and pasta sauces DRAlVJs4XCE-00157-00040602-00040901 lines but the new strategy failed as DRAlVJs4XCE-00158-00040902-00041222 well in June 2001 Borden food sold DRAlVJs4XCE-00159-00041223-00041417 several pasta lines to the American DRAlVJs4XCE-00160-00041418-00041624 Italian pasta company and its pasta DRAlVJs4XCE-00161-00041625-00041831 sauce and soup businesses to the HJ DRAlVJs4XCE-00162-00041832-00042233 Heinz Company in July 2001 Borden foods DRAlVJs4XCE-00163-00042234-00042437 sold its remaining pasta lines to the DRAlVJs4XCE-00164-00042438-00042677 new world pasta Borden Inc sold its DRAlVJs4XCE-00165-00042678-00042887 final food product line it's pasta DRAlVJs4XCE-00166-00042888-00043172 anytime two Kraft Foods in 2001 and DRAlVJs4XCE-00167-00043173-00043328 shuttered its foods division with the DRAlVJs4XCE-00168-00043329-00043502 chemicals business the sole remaining DRAlVJs4XCE-00169-00043503-00043850 operating company in 2001 KKR merged DRAlVJs4XCE-00170-00043851-00044081 board and ink into Borden Chemical Inc DRAlVJs4XCE-00171-00044082-00044285 with the resulting company named Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00172-00044286-00044453 Chemical to emphasize the fact that DRAlVJs4XCE-00173-00044454-00044618 chemicals were the company's sole DRAlVJs4XCE-00174-00044619-00044972 remaining product line in 2004 KKR sold DRAlVJs4XCE-00175-00044973-00045188 Borden Chemical to Apollo Management a DRAlVJs4XCE-00176-00045189-00045497 private equity firm Borden Chemical was DRAlVJs4XCE-00177-00045498-00045656 merged with Resolution performance DRAlVJs4XCE-00178-00045657-00045899 products resolution specialty materials DRAlVJs4XCE-00179-00045900-00046127 and the German firm bakelite AG to form DRAlVJs4XCE-00180-00046128-00046400 Hexen specialty chemicals with the DRAlVJs4XCE-00181-00046401-00046682 merger which settled in 2005 the DRAlVJs4XCE-00182-00046683-00046877 last vestige of board and Inc ceased to DRAlVJs4XCE-00183-00046878-00047057 exist except two spin-offs and brand DRAlVJs4XCE-00184-00047058-00047342 names Peck Shan retained control over DRAlVJs4XCE-00185-00047343-00047543 the LC the cow trademarks and Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00186-00047544-00047792 name until December 2014 and has now DRAlVJs4XCE-00187-00047793-00048017 assigned all Borden LC trademarks in the DRAlVJs4XCE-00188-00048018-00048328 u.s. to group olala of Durango Mexico DRAlVJs4XCE-00189-00048329-00048569 Borden once operated a chain of ice DRAlVJs4XCE-00190-00048570-00048782 cream stores called Borden's ice cream DRAlVJs4XCE-00191-00048783-00048998 but only a single location in Lafayette DRAlVJs4XCE-00192-00048999-00049746 Louisiana remains under local ownership DRAlVJs4XCE-00193-00049747-00050256 topic legacy DRAlVJs4XCE-00194-00050257-00050481 several firms continued to use the name DRAlVJs4XCE-00195-00050482-00050796 board in an LC the cow Borden milk DRAlVJs4XCE-00196-00050797-00050982 products is a dairy distributor in DRAlVJs4XCE-00197-00050983-00051171 Dallas Texas with products sold in DRAlVJs4XCE-00198-00051172-00051408 Alabama Colorado Florida Georgia DRAlVJs4XCE-00199-00051409-00051675 Kentucky Louisiana Mississippi Missouri DRAlVJs4XCE-00200-00051676-00051933 New Jersey New York Oklahoma DRAlVJs4XCE-00201-00051934-00052203 Pennsylvania South Carolina Texas and DRAlVJs4XCE-00202-00052204-00052541 Tennessee among others JM Smucker uses DRAlVJs4XCE-00203-00052542-00052707 the name and LC for their Eagle Brand DRAlVJs4XCE-00204-00052708-00053010 condensed milk products since 2007 not DRAlVJs4XCE-00205-00053011-00053223 used in Canada Borden buildings north DRAlVJs4XCE-00206-00053224-00053538 building 563 spayed in a crescent in DRAlVJs4XCE-00207-00053539-00053844 South building 487 spayed in a crescent DRAlVJs4XCE-00208-00053845-00054045 in Toronto was once home to Borden DRAlVJs4XCE-00209-00054046-00054261 Canadian dairy operations founded in DRAlVJs4XCE-00210-00054262-00054549 1900 by Walt Mathias City dairy and now DRAlVJs4XCE-00211-00054550-00055254 used by the University of Toronto DRAlVJs4XCE-00212-00055255-00055814 topic former brands DRAlVJs4XCE-00213-00055815-00056179 you DRAlVJs4XCE-00214-00056179-00056712 topic see also DRAlVJs4XCE-00215-00056713-00057186 Borden milk plant rohtul actor equals DRAlVJs4XCE-00216-00057187-00057462 equals notes DTtGptntVaM-00000-00001652-00002381 no exactly now in Hebrew he wants to be DTtGptntVaM-00001-00002382-00002824 relaying in Hebrew the book is called DTtGptntVaM-00002-00002825-00003788 Zakaria meeting yeah Sankar I was a DTtGptntVaM-00003-00003789-00003992 Levite who was born in Babylon chase it DTtGptntVaM-00004-00003993-00004184 through Nehemiah and 12 he was a son of DTtGptntVaM-00005-00004185-00004391 that Barrick aya the grandson a pillow DTtGptntVaM-00006-00004392-00004574 of the priests and then give you lots of DTtGptntVaM-00007-00004575-00004945 references later if you so wish he's got DTtGptntVaM-00008-00004946-00005063 a common name but of course he's a DTtGptntVaM-00009-00005064-00005227 pretty throw a priestly family but he DTtGptntVaM-00010-00005228-00005501 was also a profit because a pariah 11 DTtGptntVaM-00011-00005502-00005863 God calls to be upon you to come across DTtGptntVaM-00012-00005864-00006008 a guy in your readings of the Old DTtGptntVaM-00013-00006009-00006247 Testament this man is a contemporary of DTtGptntVaM-00014-00006248-00006589 highlight the Prophet so rubber ball DTtGptntVaM-00015-00006590-00006773 with the leader of the Jews had come DTtGptntVaM-00016-00006773-00007156 back to rebuild Jerusalem Joshua was the DTtGptntVaM-00017-00007158-00007406 high priests at the time and like hey DTtGptntVaM-00018-00007406-00007606 guy who was all demands a car I was DTtGptntVaM-00019-00007608-00007789 probably a young man when he prophesied DTtGptntVaM-00020-00007790-00008014 you can see that has echo right to Paul DTtGptntVaM-00021-00008015-00008213 and his ministry rather than 30 degree DTtGptntVaM-00022-00008214-00008708 of certainty from 5 20 BC to find 18 BC DTtGptntVaM-00023-00008709-00008908 probably open from DTtGptntVaM-00024-00008909-00009114 the younger man certainly we know about DTtGptntVaM-00025-00009115-00009567 5 20 25 18 period so the surrounding his DTtGptntVaM-00026-00009568-00009714 rear and something like this this is the DTtGptntVaM-00027-00009715-00009939 circumstances of the situation to which DTtGptntVaM-00028-00009940-00010245 you prophesy he prophesied the first DTtGptntVaM-00029-00010246-00010602 return from Babylonian exile people have DTtGptntVaM-00030-00010603-00010731 got it sending in carried away in DTtGptntVaM-00031-00010732-00011070 captivity in 538 BC Cyrus was king of DTtGptntVaM-00032-00011071-00011799 Persia service that you go back Haggai DTtGptntVaM-00033-00011800-00012052 and Zechariah probably came back at the DTtGptntVaM-00034-00012053-00012313 beginning of that had I in Zachariah DTtGptntVaM-00035-00012314-00012552 prophesied and the temple was completed DTtGptntVaM-00036-00012553-00013080 and a Darius of fun to 148 oh my we DTtGptntVaM-00037-00013081-00013285 started the offerings and sacrifices at DTtGptntVaM-00038-00013286-00013444 the temple and Levitical stuff that even DTtGptntVaM-00039-00013444-00013660 though all about foundation of the DTtGptntVaM-00040-00013661-00013953 temple was laid and then there was this DTtGptntVaM-00041-00013954-00014140 resistance Samaritan and Persian DTtGptntVaM-00042-00014141-00014313 resistance ended the rebuilding the DTtGptntVaM-00043-00014315-00014838 temple for 15 years until 5 20 BC DTtGptntVaM-00044-00014838-00015211 Zachariah and Haggai prophesied from 520 DTtGptntVaM-00045-00015212-00015381 when he began against who defied 18 DTtGptntVaM-00046-00015382-00015574 encouraging the people who this is DTtGptntVaM-00047-00015575-00015759 impossible task with all this opposition DTtGptntVaM-00048-00015760-00015958 in all this week with this terrible DTtGptntVaM-00049-00015959-00016452 racket resources have been so few people DTtGptntVaM-00050-00016453-00016771 zachariahs across my hands back as the DTtGptntVaM-00051-00016772-00017491 young man stealing the god he was there DTtGptntVaM-00052-00017492-00017668 at the beginning of things it was small DTtGptntVaM-00053-00017669-00017856 looking but amazingly significant DTtGptntVaM-00054-00017857-00018355 started just didn't look like it and he DTtGptntVaM-00055-00018356-00018730 was God's means for telling people God DTtGptntVaM-00056-00018731-00018828 is it miss DTtGptntVaM-00057-00018829-00019198 guys good here you look small but strong DTtGptntVaM-00058-00019199-00020304 you're commanded let's go behind go on DTtGptntVaM-00059-00020305-00020829 you read the book think wow Muslim it's DTtGptntVaM-00060-00020830-00021141 called apocalyptic literature and he's DTtGptntVaM-00061-00021142-00021422 full of symbols and pictures and stuff DTtGptntVaM-00062-00021423-00021789 like that characterized by symbolic DTtGptntVaM-00063-00021790-00022037 visions animal symbols symbolic number DTtGptntVaM-00064-00022038-00022380 247 are blending a history and imagery DTtGptntVaM-00065-00022381-00022770 that's what it looks like there was a DTtGptntVaM-00066-00022771-00023292 party property legit of cool from this DTtGptntVaM-00067-00023293-00023577 point from Daniel regulatory revelation DTtGptntVaM-00068-00023578-00023829 which is really developed apocalyptic DTtGptntVaM-00069-00023830-00024255 literature wise for is to offer hope to DTtGptntVaM-00070-00024256-00024618 a downcast people through describing the DTtGptntVaM-00071-00024619-00024921 ultimate defeat of evil and the victory DTtGptntVaM-00072-00024922-00025299 of God somebody summarize the title of a DTtGptntVaM-00073-00025300-00025470 book on on Revelation somebody DTtGptntVaM-00074-00025471-00025689 summarized the message of the book of DTtGptntVaM-00075-00025689-00026120 Revelation like this three words the DTtGptntVaM-00076-00026122-00027060 lamb wins that DTtGptntVaM-00077-00027061-00027296 we get out of whack something more than DTtGptntVaM-00078-00027297-00027858 a plant a low man wins you coming here DTtGptntVaM-00079-00027858-00027992 as a few of us perhaps some of those DTtGptntVaM-00080-00027993-00028520 surveys is only a few of us and people DTtGptntVaM-00081-00028521-00028755 come in and talk about meeting room and DTtGptntVaM-00082-00028756-00028995 my phone feeling lonely death that's all DTtGptntVaM-00083-00028995-00029151 you do that's what we're here to do DTtGptntVaM-00084-00029152-00030167 deals can happen in some ways DTtGptntVaM-00085-00030168-00030354 apocalyptic literature is like parables DTtGptntVaM-00086-00030355-00030590 it's meant to reveal and high truth and DTtGptntVaM-00087-00030591-00030876 and that's what so nine is equal death DTtGptntVaM-00088-00030877-00031023 we have to put on something like DTtGptntVaM-00089-00031024-00031233 expanding Daniel that's been on screwed DTtGptntVaM-00090-00031233-00031389 state and wrapping revelations and DTtGptntVaM-00091-00031389-00031840 people who go around the persecution DTtGptntVaM-00092-00031841-00032345 pond or was this the book is saying this DTtGptntVaM-00093-00032345-00032724 this is the chain there's an opening DTtGptntVaM-00094-00032725-00033221 exhortation chapter 12 26 and then there DTtGptntVaM-00095-00033222-00033492 are these eight prophetic dream visions DTtGptntVaM-00096-00033493-00033799 for this purpose in this moment is style DTtGptntVaM-00097-00033800-00034283 from 1768 then there are the historical DTtGptntVaM-00098-00034284-00034586 messages that are kinda not too explicit DTtGptntVaM-00099-00034587-00034862 because they can't be chapter seven to DTtGptntVaM-00100-00034863-00035055 eight and then to prophetic articles at DTtGptntVaM-00101-00035056-00035115 the end DTtGptntVaM-00102-00035116-00035400 9 through 14 but will oh yeah he's right DTtGptntVaM-00103-00035401-00035574 there in the middle of those a prophetic DTtGptntVaM-00104-00035575-00035772 dream visions we're looking at chapter 4 DTtGptntVaM-00105-00035773-00036378 chapter 4 demonstrate in introducing DTtGptntVaM-00106-00036379-00036819 goods is a reality of the situation DTtGptntVaM-00107-00036820-00037194 they're in for this return small through DTtGptntVaM-00108-00037195-00037353 the short of resources lacking DTtGptntVaM-00109-00037354-00037554 everything people showing them their DTtGptntVaM-00110-00037555-00037683 situation actually from a heavenly DTtGptntVaM-00111-00037684-00038034 standpoint not people when they see DTtGptntVaM-00112-00038035-00038295 whether to eyes everything showing them DTtGptntVaM-00113-00038296-00038496 and telling them your novice pointless DTtGptntVaM-00114-00038497-00038996 is a lot of the logos you feel DTtGptntVaM-00115-00038997-00039159 demonstrating the Lord is going to DTtGptntVaM-00116-00039160-00039378 establish his kingdom not through a DTtGptntVaM-00117-00039379-00039642 gradually evolutionary process but DTtGptntVaM-00118-00039643-00040026 through struggle and tension and og DTtGptntVaM-00119-00040027-00040272 God's people to return to him and rely DTtGptntVaM-00120-00040273-00040557 on him and he'll continue to return to DTtGptntVaM-00121-00040558-00040842 that and continue to fulfill his work to DTtGptntVaM-00122-00040843-00041022 promise that it's pugilist nations will DTtGptntVaM-00123-00041023-00041315 only position its spiritual sensitivity DTtGptntVaM-00124-00041316-00041517 deliverable ring attire Boltzmann DTtGptntVaM-00125-00041518-00041817 blessing there the crucial stage in that DTtGptntVaM-00126-00041818-00042323 one so passage sits there in the middle DTtGptntVaM-00127-00042324-00042726 about sexual villainous telling them not DTtGptntVaM-00128-00042727-00042924 to despise what looks like a day small DTtGptntVaM-00129-00042925-00043790 things so let's read it DTtGptntVaM-00130-00043791-00044410 three swings lots of the shoulder one DTtGptntVaM-00131-00044411-00044672 asked him to the show I don't leave it DTtGptntVaM-00132-00044673-00045764 in short what I do ha ok come on share DTtGptntVaM-00133-00045765-00046442 that with my volunteer to see you honey DTtGptntVaM-00134-00046443-00047333 drag on Muslim then the angel you talked DTtGptntVaM-00135-00047334-00047684 with maybe turned and woke me up like DTtGptntVaM-00136-00047685-00048056 someone awakened from sleep he asked me DTtGptntVaM-00137-00048057-00048593 what do you see I answered I said a DTtGptntVaM-00138-00048594-00049043 solid gold rock star lampstand will go DTtGptntVaM-00139-00049044-00049400 at the top and seven mountain it is DTtGptntVaM-00140-00049401-00049853 seven kind channels to the liars also DTtGptntVaM-00141-00049854-00050270 there are two olive trees by it one of DTtGptntVaM-00142-00050271-00050639 the rights of the bow and the overall DTtGptntVaM-00143-00050640-00050981 its neck I asked the angel that talked DTtGptntVaM-00144-00050982-00051314 with me what are these my lord he DTtGptntVaM-00145-00051315-00051619 answered do you not know what they say DTtGptntVaM-00146-00051620-00052010 no my lord I declined so he said to me DTtGptntVaM-00147-00052011-00052315 this is the word of the Lord to deserve DTtGptntVaM-00148-00052316-00052778 a bottle not mine not by might nor by DTtGptntVaM-00149-00052779-00053138 power but my spirit says the Lord DTtGptntVaM-00150-00053139-00053585 Almighty thanks guys that's how ye DTtGptntVaM-00151-00053586-00053877 mighty Mountain what was our bubble DTtGptntVaM-00152-00053878-00054123 round and we'll bring out the capstone DTtGptntVaM-00153-00054124-00054341 to shout sort of message but that's it DTtGptntVaM-00154-00054342-00054582 then the lord of the word Lord came to DTtGptntVaM-00155-00054583-00054786 me the hounds of cerebral would have DTtGptntVaM-00156-00054787-00055002 made the foundation of this time his DTtGptntVaM-00157-00055003-00055224 hands will also complete it then you DTtGptntVaM-00158-00055225-00055422 will know that the Lord Almighty sent me DTtGptntVaM-00159-00055423-00055679 to you who dares to Spanish the day of DTtGptntVaM-00160-00055680-00055904 small things since seven eyes of the DTtGptntVaM-00161-00055905-00056037 Lord that ranged throughout the earth DTtGptntVaM-00162-00056038-00056286 rejoice at least even chosen capstone DTtGptntVaM-00163-00056287-00056649 and Sarah bubble then I asked the angel DTtGptntVaM-00164-00056650-00056862 what are these two olive trees on the DTtGptntVaM-00165-00056863-00057099 right and left will understand again my DTtGptntVaM-00166-00057100-00057452 sister what are those two olive branches DTtGptntVaM-00167-00057453-00058077 around he replied do you not know what DTtGptntVaM-00168-00058078-00058359 these are no my lord I said so he said DTtGptntVaM-00169-00058360-00058746 these are the two who are anointed to DTtGptntVaM-00170-00058747-00059028 serve the Lord oh yeah how weird is that DTtGptntVaM-00171-00059029-00059513 do I could see is your rate you think oh DTtGptntVaM-00172-00059514-00059799 yeah oh well let's do a draw it into the DTtGptntVaM-00173-00059800-00060144 natural you glad you're planning on DTtGptntVaM-00174-00060145-00060423 picture-picture the great but everything DTtGptntVaM-00175-00060424-00060663 doing service bro your picture taken two DTtGptntVaM-00176-00060664-00061044 words I'm ultimate battleground talk DTtGptntVaM-00177-00061045-00061407 about that but you're already let's be DTtGptntVaM-00178-00061408-00061659 absolutely clear that we need to be it's DTtGptntVaM-00179-00061660-00062291 not complicated trust me for me DTtGptntVaM-00180-00062292-00062619 there's this branched candlestick this DTtGptntVaM-00181-00062620-00062899 branch seven-branched lights bearing DTtGptntVaM-00182-00062900-00063040 candles that we spoke to one little DTtGptntVaM-00183-00063041-00063511 world then these two olive trees and DTtGptntVaM-00184-00063512-00063724 there's two pipes carrying all the trees DTtGptntVaM-00185-00063725-00063969 and send channels carrying oil to every DTtGptntVaM-00186-00063970-00064407 one of the laps from his big old bowl so DTtGptntVaM-00187-00064408-00064605 a big old bowl you got this little light DTtGptntVaM-00188-00064607-00064861 bearing seven-branched candlestick and DTtGptntVaM-00189-00064862-00065241 you've got these two trees all the trees DTtGptntVaM-00190-00065242-00065536 and the oil that somehow feeds and DTtGptntVaM-00191-00065537-00065694 suppliers name is supplied to each DTtGptntVaM-00192-00065695-00065953 element in each of these things have you DTtGptntVaM-00193-00065954-00066294 so far no but you got a picture in your DTtGptntVaM-00194-00066295-00066847 head you're going to get that simple we DTtGptntVaM-00195-00066848-00067318 said that this book is pardonable is DTtGptntVaM-00196-00067319-00067609 heavy on the old applicant imagery right DTtGptntVaM-00197-00067610-00067900 and that imagery those symbols of that DTtGptntVaM-00198-00067901-00068059 King are things in people's heads that DTtGptntVaM-00199-00068060-00068359 they would be associated with it's a DTtGptntVaM-00200-00068360-00068698 very very postmodern thing follow its 5 DTtGptntVaM-00201-00068699-00069193 8520 be seen because nowadays if I don't DTtGptntVaM-00202-00069194-00069391 speak of student thing I drop how the DTtGptntVaM-00203-00069392-00069724 most well worked out logical linear DTtGptntVaM-00204-00069725-00069904 analytical approach the way I do for you DTtGptntVaM-00205-00069905-00070194 people I have to so kick things off like DTtGptntVaM-00206-00070195-00070447 I'm talking from a Pinterest port right DTtGptntVaM-00207-00070448-00070726 there are pictures and images and you DTtGptntVaM-00208-00070727-00070873 tell them what God met at a time like DTtGptntVaM-00209-00070874-00071011 that it's not all linked because they DTtGptntVaM-00210-00071012-00071293 get confused by that their minds bedroom DTtGptntVaM-00211-00071294-00071518 they've grown up on xbox and it's DTtGptntVaM-00212-00071519-00071947 different zachariah as a profit for our DTtGptntVaM-00213-00071948-00072187 times because he's got these things he DTtGptntVaM-00214-00072188-00072376 loves out you here are no spare I don't DTtGptntVaM-00215-00072377-00072501 mess about knows but but you know DTtGptntVaM-00216-00072502-00072835 because not from that period in history DTtGptntVaM-00217-00072836-00073037 with century DTtGptntVaM-00218-00073038-00073758 nearest those symbols they count for DTtGptntVaM-00219-00073759-00073974 something it's like a token of meaning DTtGptntVaM-00220-00073975-00074469 it refers to something personally that's DTtGptntVaM-00221-00074470-00074709 on that symbolism firstly this is a sin DTtGptntVaM-00222-00074710-00075215 sin glad stand giving the Bible one DTtGptntVaM-00223-00075216-00075705 wasn't understanding for the last one DTtGptntVaM-00224-00075706-00076287 but that's the sort of idea seven across DTtGptntVaM-00225-00076288-00076512 scripture is a matter of wholeness and DTtGptntVaM-00226-00076513-00077157 completeness well it is badly what it is DTtGptntVaM-00227-00077158-00077376 but it was maybe there was somebody in DTtGptntVaM-00228-00077377-00077892 fact accounting system no idea some days DTtGptntVaM-00229-00077893-00078057 that makes we broke up there seven days DTtGptntVaM-00230-00078058-00078516 a week rented a wonderful Jews yes that DTtGptntVaM-00231-00078517-00078936 we absolutely correct here seven is the DTtGptntVaM-00232-00078937-00079185 number of completeness a lab stand is DTtGptntVaM-00233-00079186-00079458 the carrier of light now I know there DTtGptntVaM-00234-00079459-00079635 are people that they get things up all DTtGptntVaM-00235-00079636-00079809 afternoon if you want on google but DTtGptntVaM-00236-00079810-00079959 people who wanted or beyond all of this DTtGptntVaM-00237-00079960-00080139 in all sorts of speculation imagining DTtGptntVaM-00238-00080140-00080346 interpretation right the opportunity DTtGptntVaM-00239-00080347-00080526 abounds I can no idea why not DTtGptntVaM-00240-00080527-00080796 entertained anyway thing is those laps DTtGptntVaM-00241-00080797-00081087 like the menorah at the temple which DTtGptntVaM-00242-00081088-00081309 came to be such a major part of peace DTtGptntVaM-00243-00081310-00081675 festival of lights remember need is DTtGptntVaM-00244-00081676-00081980 they are rebuilding the temple they're DTtGptntVaM-00245-00081981-00082217 rebuilding arias is eating the furniture DTtGptntVaM-00246-00082218-00082405 they're putting the menorah back in the DTtGptntVaM-00247-00082406-00082730 temple wait that's all right I told them DTtGptntVaM-00248-00082731-00083237 to do it is the big light bearing jovi DTtGptntVaM-00249-00083238-00083597 in the temple here's the way that God's DTtGptntVaM-00250-00083598-00083930 light shines out from Jerusalem to the DTtGptntVaM-00251-00083931-00084653 ends of the earth whole complete my DTtGptntVaM-00252-00084654-00085003 trainers DTtGptntVaM-00253-00085004-00085287 notice this is the complete life bearing DTtGptntVaM-00254-00085288-00085581 set up then along the complete library DTtGptntVaM-00255-00085582-00086218 ad this comes to olive trees because he DTtGptntVaM-00256-00086219-00086362 locates the oil isn't flowing from the DTtGptntVaM-00257-00086363-00086631 olive trees into the lab it's like from DTtGptntVaM-00258-00086632-00087375 the bowl and the olive trees so that of DTtGptntVaM-00259-00087376-00087517 course I love trees are famously long DTtGptntVaM-00260-00087518-00087744 lived there are eight famous olive trees DTtGptntVaM-00261-00087745-00087912 in the garden get so many in Jerusalem DTtGptntVaM-00262-00087913-00088068 that at least as always when Jesus was DTtGptntVaM-00263-00088069-00088682 there all is known olive trees in Israel DTtGptntVaM-00264-00088683-00089421 are about 3,000 years old long-standing DTtGptntVaM-00265-00089422-00089755 perpetuating themselves across time but DTtGptntVaM-00266-00089756-00090344 also they are famously fruitful famously DTtGptntVaM-00267-00090345-00090929 fruitful DTtGptntVaM-00268-00090930-00091225 so 128 verse 3 your word shall be like a DTtGptntVaM-00269-00091226-00091391 fruitful vine at the very heart of your DTtGptntVaM-00270-00091392-00091568 house your children like boiling plants DTtGptntVaM-00271-00091569-00092101 around your table it's all there but the DTtGptntVaM-00272-00092102-00092474 strength has been olive oil used DTtGptntVaM-00273-00092475-00092642 extensively in biblical times although DTtGptntVaM-00274-00092643-00092856 they've all used by biblical times DTtGptntVaM-00275-00092857-00093556 Cullen use it to light yeah they used it DTtGptntVaM-00276-00093557-00093971 to buy clams and they used it to having DTtGptntVaM-00277-00093972-00094160 do you cover that I've spoken yet they DTtGptntVaM-00278-00094161-00094481 button using coke supreme cell to make DTtGptntVaM-00279-00094482-00094760 bread Beatles out the idea thank you DTtGptntVaM-00280-00094761-00095105 Mike test it they use it novelty and one DTtGptntVaM-00281-00095106-00095330 in their night they are 90 people in DTtGptntVaM-00282-00095331-00095537 particular they are 19 prophets priests DTtGptntVaM-00283-00095538-00095903 and Kings as a symbol that the Spirit of DTtGptntVaM-00284-00095904-00096188 God was now coming on that person for a DTtGptntVaM-00285-00096189-00096485 particular role function in the purposes DTtGptntVaM-00286-00096486-00096794 of God yahoo had Messiah that's used of DTtGptntVaM-00287-00096795-00097219 Jesus junge means haha Bashir it means DTtGptntVaM-00288-00097220-00097505 they're 91 the one on of the Spirit DTtGptntVaM-00289-00097506-00098081 comes you know pyar par excellence it's DTtGptntVaM-00290-00098082-00098261 all about the empowerment of goal DTtGptntVaM-00291-00098262-00098551 individuals so they can serve him DTtGptntVaM-00292-00098552-00098798 something fulfill his purposes whatever DTtGptntVaM-00293-00098799-00099311 those might be and in this case it's an DTtGptntVaM-00294-00099312-00099644 empowerment of both of the Covenant DTtGptntVaM-00295-00099645-00099971 peoples and of the full complement of DTtGptntVaM-00296-00099972-00100012 those DTtGptntVaM-00297-00100013-00100435 call to carry his land both Covenant DTtGptntVaM-00298-00100436-00100636 people's two trees called their fruit DTtGptntVaM-00299-00100637-00100930 for not the old covenant people go to DTtGptntVaM-00300-00100931-00101128 the new covenant people gotta pay what DTtGptntVaM-00301-00101129-00101434 we call gets a bear fruit for God in the DTtGptntVaM-00302-00101435-00102259 world slowly Oh particularly and here's DTtGptntVaM-00303-00102260-00102468 the anointing of God flowing from his DTtGptntVaM-00304-00102469-00102892 bowl to enable those people to bear DTtGptntVaM-00305-00102893-00103185 fruit and the completeness of his people DTtGptntVaM-00306-00103186-00103942 all the new roc with the veil over their DTtGptntVaM-00307-00103943-00104181 fruit to God through their human DTtGptntVaM-00308-00104182-00104653 experience and radiated light as people DTtGptntVaM-00309-00104654-00105118 see his truth the world in which he DTtGptntVaM-00310-00105119-00105242 centers DTtGptntVaM-00311-00105243-00105574 are you only sell fast rate for his name DTtGptntVaM-00312-00105575-00105893 is a muscle until he clearly straight DTtGptntVaM-00313-00105894-00106646 farmers he would be so fun because now DTtGptntVaM-00314-00106647-00106963 Zachariah asks the angel what this means DTtGptntVaM-00315-00106964-00107258 and he gets back from the angel a clear DTtGptntVaM-00316-00107258-00107732 answer and it's more to do with the DTtGptntVaM-00317-00107733-00108095 channels and the pipes that it is with DTtGptntVaM-00318-00108096-00108572 where the staff flows listen Zacharias DTtGptntVaM-00319-00108573-00108800 the angel what's his name and here comes DTtGptntVaM-00320-00108801-00109007 the answer bear in mind this is an DTtGptntVaM-00321-00109008-00109217 answer came to a small weak feeling DTtGptntVaM-00322-00109218-00109448 bunch of return exiles who've resources DTtGptntVaM-00323-00109449-00109604 must have seemed very inadequate to the DTtGptntVaM-00324-00109605-00110409 task annoyed enemies on every hand DTtGptntVaM-00325-00110410-00110611 incidentally notice the interpretation DTtGptntVaM-00326-00110613-00110734 doesn't go into immense detailed DTtGptntVaM-00327-00110735-00110894 tracking through the skewer cause of the DTtGptntVaM-00328-00110895-00111053 Old Testament something elaborate DTtGptntVaM-00329-00111054-00111377 complex sweetly so forward use the heart DTtGptntVaM-00330-00111378-00111583 of what God says is conveying through DTtGptntVaM-00331-00111584-00111857 this I asked the angel who told me DTtGptntVaM-00332-00111858-00112166 chapter 4 verse 6 or are these my own DTtGptntVaM-00333-00112167-00112435 what is better bosoms honey candlestick DTtGptntVaM-00334-00112436-00112844 oh do you not know the answer me do ask DTtGptntVaM-00335-00112845-00113208 me do not know what these are normally DTtGptntVaM-00336-00113209-00113540 he said this is the word of the Lord to DTtGptntVaM-00337-00113541-00113876 survivable so here is in linear DTtGptntVaM-00338-00113877-00114007 analytical DTtGptntVaM-00339-00114008-00114268 for the truth that this picture is DTtGptntVaM-00340-00114269-00114750 supposed to him ray not by might nor by DTtGptntVaM-00341-00114751-00115456 power but by my spirit says the Lord the DTtGptntVaM-00342-00115457-00115683 point is not the bushes the plan is not DTtGptntVaM-00343-00115684-00115890 the candlestick the point is the pipes DTtGptntVaM-00344-00115891-00116281 of the channels what you achieved for me DTtGptntVaM-00345-00116282-00116433 the way you bear fruit for me the way DTtGptntVaM-00346-00116434-00116628 you shine your light for me in this DTtGptntVaM-00347-00116629-00116901 world my life for me in this book is is DTtGptntVaM-00348-00116902-00117429 it's not my mind it's not like ours by DTtGptntVaM-00349-00117430-00117882 those types of channels by my spirit DTtGptntVaM-00350-00117883-00118382 bringing my blessing DTtGptntVaM-00351-00118383-00118663 when we feel very weak when our DTtGptntVaM-00352-00118664-00118903 resources seems strange and inadequate DTtGptntVaM-00353-00118904-00119254 the temptation to try and find some DTtGptntVaM-00354-00119255-00119531 strength of our own rely on what we can DTtGptntVaM-00355-00119532-00120158 be extremely strong that's what we need DTtGptntVaM-00356-00120158-00120489 to be as wonderful as the guy in Wheaton DTtGptntVaM-00357-00120490-00120940 not by might nor by power these won't do DTtGptntVaM-00358-00120941-00121126 this by my spirit says the Lord just DTtGptntVaM-00359-00121127-00121363 tell that does Rumble as he struggles to DTtGptntVaM-00360-00121364-00121836 carry out his god-given loved DTtGptntVaM-00361-00121838-00122215 responsibility what he started the DTtGptntVaM-00362-00122216-00122425 Spirit of God were empowered to continue DTtGptntVaM-00363-00122426-00122653 enabling to complete and the oil is just DTtGptntVaM-00364-00122654-00122791 got to keep Floy to the point of DTtGptntVaM-00365-00122792-00122950 delivery and effectiveness and then DTtGptntVaM-00366-00122951-00123173 he'll be like an enemy troops keep the DTtGptntVaM-00367-00123174-00123334 oil flowing it's the place of the DTtGptntVaM-00368-00123335-00124078 channels trees with their free those who DTtGptntVaM-00369-00124079-00124733 are anointed DTtGptntVaM-00370-00124733-00125870 serve God and bring our Savior ah so DTtGptntVaM-00371-00125871-00126032 there's your old testament you can't let DTtGptntVaM-00372-00126033-00126304 them come you come on people of God DTtGptntVaM-00373-00126305-00126559 games depend for their calling on know DTtGptntVaM-00374-00126560-00126883 you might know human power the supply of DTtGptntVaM-00375-00126884-00127214 oil supply the mighty the Spirit of God DTtGptntVaM-00376-00127215-00127556 Paul Anton that for me the all DTtGptntVaM-00377-00127557-00127769 submissions about God is not to be DTtGptntVaM-00378-00127770-00128392 written that debated stroked or it might DTtGptntVaM-00379-00128393-00129563 also efficiency about God is to live DTtGptntVaM-00380-00129564-00129733 so the sense I can't speak to that DTtGptntVaM-00381-00129734-00130076 second penny because you're going to do DTtGptntVaM-00382-00130077-00130607 that tomorrow today you're going to be DTtGptntVaM-00383-00130608-00130759 learning its message with our you're DTtGptntVaM-00384-00130760-00131051 going to be doing that today is Laura DTtGptntVaM-00385-00131052-00131636 lost my memory pipes and channels DTtGptntVaM-00386-00131637-00132436 hopefully times on the heart the bold DTtGptntVaM-00387-00132437-00132650 white is now it going to give some DTtGptntVaM-00388-00132651-00132890 injury that if a little incorrectly DTtGptntVaM-00389-00132891-00133529 gourmet brisket hearts Bing got my god DTtGptntVaM-00390-00133530-00133820 bin ice cream cheese yes or exhaust DTtGptntVaM-00391-00133821-00134060 every guy than that ballsy yeah poor in DTtGptntVaM-00392-00134061-00134288 spirit comes from apple and we're not DTtGptntVaM-00393-00134289-00134564 going to get saved on brain please into DTtGptntVaM-00394-00134565-00134849 human terms and the first times are DTtGptntVaM-00395-00134850-00135287 blocked flu but looking after yourself DTtGptntVaM-00396-00135288-00135797 or not looking at the word that's all if DTtGptntVaM-00397-00135798-00136013 you got blockage there isn't about going DTtGptntVaM-00398-00136014-00136256 to get from my heart to go relationships DTtGptntVaM-00399-00136257-00136514 yeah so stay in looking at yourself you DTtGptntVaM-00400-00136515-00136702 against in terms of your relationship DTtGptntVaM-00401-00136703-00136923 yes sir gonna make DTtGptntVaM-00402-00136924-00137448 relationship yes absolutely because in DTtGptntVaM-00403-00137449-00137778 that relationship then the blessing I DTtGptntVaM-00404-00137779-00138044 got a lot of the spirit of closing I DTtGptntVaM-00405-00138045-00138261 think there's something else about let DTtGptntVaM-00406-00138262-00138605 me pull like this to this is important DTtGptntVaM-00407-00138606-00138912 progress coke a new church America was DTtGptntVaM-00408-00138913-00139425 called pregnant good today you've got DTtGptntVaM-00409-00139426-00139578 this big things very masculine or pick DTtGptntVaM-00410-00139579-00139716 on the old masculinity thing you know DTtGptntVaM-00411-00139717-00139997 what a certain approach to it might say DTtGptntVaM-00412-00139998-00140252 he says you know guys are like trucks DTtGptntVaM-00413-00140253-00140817 they run better with a look sees good DTtGptntVaM-00414-00140818-00140973 old American body cited after that one DTtGptntVaM-00415-00140974-00141204 guy yeah absolutely please I completely DTtGptntVaM-00416-00141205-00141549 left out and they exist reviews on your DTtGptntVaM-00417-00141550-00141876 saw like trucks we're all like trucks DTtGptntVaM-00418-00141877-00142101 we'll all run better mobility in this DTtGptntVaM-00419-00142102-00142656 sense only where yes is alone but only DTtGptntVaM-00420-00142657-00142902 when in truthful realistic human DTtGptntVaM-00421-00142903-00143208 openness and vulnerability these hard DTtGptntVaM-00422-00143209-00143430 experiences of life take us male an DTtGptntVaM-00423-00143431-00143775 email back to the channel back to the DTtGptntVaM-00424-00143776-00144135 pipe back up to the bowl the constant DTtGptntVaM-00425-00144136-00144396 flow of the anointing of God and His DTtGptntVaM-00426-00144397-00144678 Spirit which droids are like Benny and DTtGptntVaM-00427-00144679-00145320 our fruitfulness me in my experience and DTtGptntVaM-00428-00145321-00145581 I think if you and I continue the DTtGptntVaM-00429-00145582-00145737 discussion we just been having in John DTtGptntVaM-00430-00145738-00146082 chapter 15 that is that making more DTtGptntVaM-00431-00146083-00146327 sense DTtGptntVaM-00432-00146328-00146709 the branches unless someone remains in DTtGptntVaM-00433-00146710-00147578 me remain very make sense in many ways DTtGptntVaM-00434-00147579-00147741 it seems of exactly right for is an DTtGptntVaM-00435-00147742-00148197 early job to think the way it works out DTtGptntVaM-00436-00148198-00148524 for us because the important thing is DTtGptntVaM-00437-00148525-00148665 not what it's so easy to get carried DTtGptntVaM-00438-00148666-00149103 away with the bowl all the trees on the DTtGptntVaM-00439-00149104-00149554 funny canvas their plight of the channel DTtGptntVaM-00440-00149555-00150113 not by might nor by power but DTtGptntVaM-00441-00150114-00150353 invulnerability and dependence on my DTtGptntVaM-00442-00150354-00150993 spirit DTtGptntVaM-00443-00150994-00151482 tasting session must've seemed quite DTtGptntVaM-00444-00151483-00151620 change anomic discussion over the DTtGptntVaM-00445-00151621-00151891 evening as if at six o'clock last night DTtGptntVaM-00446-00151892-00152697 I had no so I was washed out lacking DTtGptntVaM-00447-00152698-00153140 strength and we were talking about as we DTtGptntVaM-00448-00153141-00153464 were going to do today yeah and you kind DTtGptntVaM-00449-00153465-00153633 of hold me back say look don't worry DTtGptntVaM-00450-00153634-00153846 don't worry we look at after me we have DTtGptntVaM-00451-00153847-00154214 to go a negative light look great you DTtGptntVaM-00452-00154215-00154560 look to the pike youtube channel got to DTtGptntVaM-00453-00154561-00156591 play something new some excavations DTtGptntVaM-00454-00156592-00156798 you 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level that's just not DTQpjNf3NKy-00027-00007402-00007598 true sometimes you have to do things DTQpjNf3NKy-00028-00007600-00007931 that you know your competitors are doing DTQpjNf3NKy-00029-00007931-00008521 today's blood and yesterday's blood I DTQpjNf3NKy-00030-00008522-00008826 think this is going to wake a lot of DTQpjNf3NKy-00031-00008827-00009216 people on I was recovering better not DTQpjNf3NKy-00032-00009217-00009396 getting a sore this was our best season DTQpjNf3NKy-00033-00009397-00009558 in the last 15 years DTQpjNf3NKy-00034-00009559-00009716 and we added 14 guys on plant-based DTQpjNf3NKy-00035-00009717-00009966 diets we all in a field way have more DTQpjNf3NKy-00036-00009967-00010455 energy cholesterol with 276 today 169 DTQpjNf3NKy-00037-00010456-00010721 Wow now you're talking yeah DTQpjNf3NKy-00038-00010722-00010929 most guys my age can keep it with a DTQpjNf3NKy-00039-00010930-00011133 grand children my grandchildren can't DTQpjNf3NKy-00040-00011134-00011519 keep up with me it's not one set of DTQpjNf3NKy-00041-00011520-00011679 dietary guidelines for improving your DTQpjNf3NKy-00042-00011680-00011902 performance as an athlete DTQpjNf3NKy-00043-00011903-00012034 another one for reversing heart disease DTQpjNf3NKy-00044-00012035-00012304 reverse and diabetes it's the same for DTQpjNf3NKy-00045-00012305-00012682 all of them someone asked me how could DTQpjNf3NKy-00046-00012683-00012885 you get as strong as an ox DTQpjNf3NKy-00047-00012886-00013111 without eating any meat and my answer DTQpjNf3NKy-00048-00013112-00013711 was have you ever seen an ox eating meat DTQpjNf3NKy-00049-00013712-00014176 [Music] DTQpjNf3NKy-00050-00014177-00014383 you DYQa0Lt_hTc-00000-00000000-00000320 a crumble is a dish of Irish origin that DYQa0Lt_hTc-00001-00000321-00000524 can be made in a sweet or savory version DYQa0Lt_hTc-00002-00000525-00000703 although the sweet version is much more DYQa0Lt_hTc-00003-00000704-00001025 common a sweet variety usually contains 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fruits may be used the DYQa0Lt_hTc-00018-00004467-00004654 topping may also include rolled oats DYQa0Lt_hTc-00019-00004655-00004847 ground almonds or other nuts and DYQa0Lt_hTc-00020-00004848-00004976 sometimes sour milk DYQa0Lt_hTc-00021-00004977-00005195 eg vinegar and milk is added to give the DYQa0Lt_hTc-00022-00005196-00005461 crumble a more extravagant taste brown DYQa0Lt_hTc-00023-00005462-00005636 sugar is often sprinkled over the DYQa0Lt_hTc-00024-00005637-00005816 crumble topping which caramelize is DYQa0Lt_hTc-00025-00005817-00006106 slightly when baked in some recipes the DYQa0Lt_hTc-00026-00006107-00006293 topping is made from broken biscuits DYQa0Lt_hTc-00027-00006294-00006496 cookies in American English or even DYQa0Lt_hTc-00028-00006497-00006680 breakfast cereals but this is not DYQa0Lt_hTc-00029-00006681-00007006 traditional crumbles became popular in DYQa0Lt_hTc-00030-00007008-00007217 Ireland during World War two when the DYQa0Lt_hTc-00031-00007218-00007384 crumble topping was an economical DYQa0Lt_hTc-00032-00007386-00007606 alternative to pies due to shortages of DYQa0Lt_hTc-00033-00007608-00007787 pastry ingredients as the result of DYQa0Lt_hTc-00034-00007788-00008039 rationing to further reduce the use of DYQa0Lt_hTc-00035-00008040-00008299 rationed flour fat and sugar breadcrumbs DYQa0Lt_hTc-00036-00008300-00008489 or oatmeal could be added to the crumble DYQa0Lt_hTc-00037-00008490-00008780 mix the dish was also popular due to its DYQa0Lt_hTc-00038-00008781-00009095 simplicity in some parts of America a DYQa0Lt_hTc-00039-00009096-00009423 similar dish may be called a crisp DYQa0Lt_hTc-00040-00009424-00009801 equals equals see also DbBAVUGMOdg-00000-00000113-00000401 the romanization of chinese is the use DbBAVUGMOdg-00001-00000402-00000608 of the latin alphabet to write chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00002-00000609-00000915 chinese uses a longer graphic script and DbBAVUGMOdg-00003-00000916-00001124 its characters do not represent phonemes DbBAVUGMOdg-00004-00001125-00001386 directly there have been many systems DbBAVUGMOdg-00005-00001387-00001550 using roman characters to represent DbBAVUGMOdg-00006-00001551-00001845 chinese throughout history linguist DbBAVUGMOdg-00007-00001846-00002139 Daniel Kane recalls it used to be said DbBAVUGMOdg-00008-00002140-00002328 that psychologists had to be like DbBAVUGMOdg-00009-00002329-00002583 musicians who might compose in one key DbBAVUGMOdg-00010-00002584-00002873 and readily transcribe into other keys DbBAVUGMOdg-00011-00002874-00003150 the dominant international standard for DbBAVUGMOdg-00012-00003151-00003420 Patong with since about 1982 has been DbBAVUGMOdg-00013-00003421-00003698 Hanyu pinyin other well-known systems DbBAVUGMOdg-00014-00003699-00003920 include WAV Giles Mandarin and Yale DbBAVUGMOdg-00015-00003921-00004290 romanization Mandarin and Cantonese DbBAVUGMOdg-00016-00004291-00004494 there are many uses for Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00017-00004495-00004761 romanization most broadly it is used to DbBAVUGMOdg-00018-00004762-00004956 provide a useful way for foreigners who DbBAVUGMOdg-00019-00004957-00005147 are not skilled at recognizing Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00020-00005148-00005442 script to read and recognize Chinese it DbBAVUGMOdg-00021-00005443-00005622 can also be helpful for clarifying DbBAVUGMOdg-00022-00005623-00005853 pronunciation among Chinese speakers who DbBAVUGMOdg-00023-00005854-00006068 speak mutually unintelligible Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00024-00006069-00006372 dialects romanization facilitates DbBAVUGMOdg-00025-00006373-00006543 entering characters on standard DbBAVUGMOdg-00026-00006544-00006756 keyboards such as QWERTY Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00027-00006756-00006987 dictionaries have complex and competing DbBAVUGMOdg-00028-00006988-00007152 sorting rules for characters and DbBAVUGMOdg-00029-00007153-00007346 romanization systems simplify the DbBAVUGMOdg-00030-00007347-00007542 problem by listing characters in their DbBAVUGMOdg-00031-00007543-00007859 Latin form alphabetically DbBAVUGMOdg-00032-00007859-00008394 background the Indian Sanskrit DbBAVUGMOdg-00033-00008395-00008613 grammarians who went to China 2,000 DbBAVUGMOdg-00034-00008614-00008805 years ago to work on the translation of DbBAVUGMOdg-00035-00008806-00009009 Buddhist scriptures into Chinese and the DbBAVUGMOdg-00036-00009010-00009189 transcription of Buddhist terms into DbBAVUGMOdg-00037-00009190-00009479 Chinese discovered them initial sound DbBAVUGMOdg-00038-00009480-00009938 final sound end suprasegmentals tone DbBAVUGMOdg-00039-00009939-00010188 structure of spoken Chinese syllables DbBAVUGMOdg-00040-00010189-00010425 this understanding is reflected in the DbBAVUGMOdg-00041-00010426-00010635 precise fancy system and it is the core DbBAVUGMOdg-00042-00010636-00010905 principle of all modern systems while DbBAVUGMOdg-00043-00010906-00011067 the fancy system was ideal for DbBAVUGMOdg-00044-00011068-00011217 indicating the conventional DbBAVUGMOdg-00045-00011218-00011424 pronunciation of single isolated DbBAVUGMOdg-00046-00011425-00011625 characters in written classical Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00047-00011626-00011826 literature it was unworkable for the DbBAVUGMOdg-00048-00011827-00011979 pronunciation of essentially DbBAVUGMOdg-00049-00011980-00012219 polysyllabic colloquial spoken chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00050-00012220-00012450 dialects such as Mandarin aside from DbBAVUGMOdg-00051-00012451-00012678 syllable structure it is also necessary DbBAVUGMOdg-00052-00012679-00012837 to indicate tones in Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00053-00012838-00013107 romanization tones distinguished the DbBAVUGMOdg-00054-00013108-00013305 definition of all morphemes in Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00055-00013306-00013491 and the definition of a word is often DbBAVUGMOdg-00056-00013491-00013715 ambiguous in the absence of tones DbBAVUGMOdg-00057-00013716-00013983 certain systems such as Wade Giles DbBAVUGMOdg-00058-00013984-00014172 indicate tone with a number following DbBAVUGMOdg-00059-00014172-00014543 the syllable ma 1 MA - ma 3 ma for DbBAVUGMOdg-00060-00014544-00014819 others like pinyin indicate the tone DbBAVUGMOdg-00061-00014820-00015222 with diacritics ma ma ma ma still the DbBAVUGMOdg-00062-00015222-00015432 system of boy roam at sea national DbBAVUGMOdg-00063-00015433-00015638 romanization bypasses the issue of DbBAVUGMOdg-00064-00015640-00015828 introducing non letter symbols by DbBAVUGMOdg-00065-00015829-00015999 changing the letters within the syllable DbBAVUGMOdg-00066-00016000-00016281 as in ma che ma ma ma each of which DbBAVUGMOdg-00067-00016282-00016488 contains the same vowel but a different DbBAVUGMOdg-00068-00016489-00016685 tone DbBAVUGMOdg-00069-00016686-00017087 uses DbBAVUGMOdg-00070-00017088-00017631 non-chinese teaching spoken and written DbBAVUGMOdg-00071-00017632-00017925 Chinese to foreigners DbBAVUGMOdg-00072-00017926-00018116 making the actual pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00073-00018117-00018305 conventions of spoken Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00074-00018306-00018530 intelligible to non Chinese speaking DbBAVUGMOdg-00075-00018531-00018714 students especially those with no DbBAVUGMOdg-00076-00018715-00019026 experience of a tonal language DbBAVUGMOdg-00077-00019027-00019261 making the syntactic structure of DbBAVUGMOdg-00078-00019262-00019444 Chinese intelligible to those only DbBAVUGMOdg-00079-00019445-00019775 familiar with Latin grammar DbBAVUGMOdg-00080-00019776-00020036 transcribing the citation pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00081-00020037-00020252 of specific Chinese characters according DbBAVUGMOdg-00082-00020253-00020441 to the pronunciation conventions of a DbBAVUGMOdg-00083-00020442-00020639 specific European language to allow the DbBAVUGMOdg-00084-00020640-00020800 insertion of that Chinese pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00085-00020801-00021132 into a Western text DbBAVUGMOdg-00086-00021133-00021387 allowing instant communication in DbBAVUGMOdg-00087-00021388-00021757 colloquial Chinese between Chinese and DbBAVUGMOdg-00088-00021758-00022182 non-chinese speakers via phrase book DbBAVUGMOdg-00089-00022183-00022710 Chinese identifying the specific DbBAVUGMOdg-00090-00022711-00022915 pronunciation of a character within a DbBAVUGMOdg-00091-00022916-00023170 specific context eg Shing is Shing to DbBAVUGMOdg-00092-00023171-00023603 walk behavior conduct or hang a store DbBAVUGMOdg-00093-00023604-00023844 recitation of Chinese text in one DbBAVUGMOdg-00094-00023845-00024067 Chinese dialect by literate speakers of DbBAVUGMOdg-00095-00024068-00024360 another mutually unintelligible one eg DbBAVUGMOdg-00096-00024361-00024704 Mandarin and Cantonese DbBAVUGMOdg-00097-00024705-00025099 learning classical or modern Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00098-00025100-00025530 use with a standard QWERTY keyboard DbBAVUGMOdg-00099-00025531-00025774 replacing Chinese characters to bring DbBAVUGMOdg-00100-00025775-00025944 functional literacy to illiterate DbBAVUGMOdg-00101-00025945-00026364 Chinese speakers book indexing DbBAVUGMOdg-00102-00026366-00026602 dictionary entry sorting and cataloguing DbBAVUGMOdg-00103-00026602-00026929 in general DbBAVUGMOdg-00104-00026930-00027572 non-chinese systems the wait wait Giles DbBAVUGMOdg-00105-00027573-00027788 and postal systems still appear in the DbBAVUGMOdg-00106-00027789-00027980 European literature but generally only DbBAVUGMOdg-00107-00027981-00028181 within a passage cited from an earlier DbBAVUGMOdg-00108-00028182-00028495 work most European language texts use DbBAVUGMOdg-00109-00028497-00028745 the Chinese Hanyu pinyin system usually DbBAVUGMOdg-00110-00028745-00029036 without tone marks since 1979 as it was DbBAVUGMOdg-00111-00029037-00029213 adopted by the People's Republic of DbBAVUGMOdg-00112-00029214-00029424 China DbBAVUGMOdg-00113-00029425-00029989 missionary systems the first consistent DbBAVUGMOdg-00114-00029989-00030214 system for transcribing Chinese words in DbBAVUGMOdg-00115-00030214-00030382 Latin alphabet is thought to have been DbBAVUGMOdg-00116-00030383-00030736 designed in 1583 288 by matteo ricci and DbBAVUGMOdg-00117-00030737-00030945 michelle ruggieri for their portuguese DbBAVUGMOdg-00118-00030947-00031270 Chinese dictionary the first ever DbBAVUGMOdg-00119-00031270-00031500 European Chinese dictionary DbBAVUGMOdg-00120-00031501-00031699 unfortunately the manuscript was DbBAVUGMOdg-00121-00031700-00031927 misplaced in the Jesuit archives in Rome DbBAVUGMOdg-00122-00031927-00032263 and not rediscovered until 1934 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00123-00032264-00032530 dictionary was finally published in 2001 DbBAVUGMOdg-00124-00032531-00032845 during the winter of 1598 Ricci with the DbBAVUGMOdg-00125-00032846-00033037 health of his Jesuit colleague Lazaro DbBAVUGMOdg-00126-00033038-00033418 cattaneo 1560 to 1640 compiled a Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00127-00033419-00033634 Portuguese dictionary as well in which DbBAVUGMOdg-00128-00033635-00033850 tones of the romanized Chinese syllables DbBAVUGMOdg-00129-00033851-00034048 were indicated with diacritical marks DbBAVUGMOdg-00130-00034049-00034330 this work has also been lost but not DbBAVUGMOdg-00131-00034331-00034561 rediscovered cattaneo system with its DbBAVUGMOdg-00132-00034562-00034744 accounting for the tones was not lost DbBAVUGMOdg-00133-00034745-00035089 however it was used eg by me Holl Bohm DbBAVUGMOdg-00134-00035090-00035287 and his two Chinese assistants in the DbBAVUGMOdg-00135-00035288-00035491 first publication of the original and DbBAVUGMOdg-00136-00035492-00035695 romanized text of the Nestorian steel DbBAVUGMOdg-00137-00035696-00036013 which appeared in China illustrator 1667 DbBAVUGMOdg-00138-00036014-00036415 an encyclopedic scope work compiled by a DbBAVUGMOdg-00139-00036416-00036724 tenacious Kerkar in 1626 the jesuit DbBAVUGMOdg-00140-00036725-00036934 missionary nicholas trigo came up with a DbBAVUGMOdg-00141-00036935-00037180 romanization system in his 0 or mu z DbBAVUGMOdg-00142-00037181-00037462 simplified Chinese Shi ruler musique DbBAVUGMOdg-00143-00037463-00037711 traditional Chinese Shi ruler musi DbBAVUGMOdg-00144-00037712-00038017 pinyin 0 or mu Z literally aid to the DbBAVUGMOdg-00145-00038018-00038315 eyes and ears of Western literary DbBAVUGMOdg-00146-00038316-00038624 in his 1670 Portuguese language DbBAVUGMOdg-00147-00038625-00038895 vocabulary oh da língua mandarina the DbBAVUGMOdg-00148-00038896-00039098 dominican missionary francisco vero DbBAVUGMOdg-00149-00039099-00039452 expanded on trigger s system his Spanish DbBAVUGMOdg-00150-00039453-00039705 language vocabulary o de la llengua DbBAVUGMOdg-00151-00039706-00040046 mandarina was published in 1682 and his DbBAVUGMOdg-00152-00040047-00040308 arte de la llengua mandarina published DbBAVUGMOdg-00153-00040309-00040574 in 1703 was the most comprehensive DbBAVUGMOdg-00154-00040575-00040814 grammar to date later on many DbBAVUGMOdg-00155-00040815-00041048 linguistically comprehensive systems DbBAVUGMOdg-00156-00041049-00041267 were made by the Protestants such as DbBAVUGMOdg-00157-00041268-00041576 that used for Robert Morrison s DbBAVUGMOdg-00158-00041577-00041829 dictionary and the leg romanization in DbBAVUGMOdg-00159-00041830-00042008 their missionary activities they had DbBAVUGMOdg-00160-00042009-00042230 contact with many languages in Southeast DbBAVUGMOdg-00161-00042231-00042443 Asia and they created systems that could DbBAVUGMOdg-00162-00042444-00042645 be used consistently across all of the DbBAVUGMOdg-00163-00042646-00042974 languages with which they were concerned DbBAVUGMOdg-00164-00042975-00043529 waived Giles the first system to be DbBAVUGMOdg-00165-00043530-00043841 widely accepted was the 1859 system of DbBAVUGMOdg-00166-00043842-00044063 the British diplomat Thomas Wade revised DbBAVUGMOdg-00167-00044064-00044279 and improved by Herbert Giles into the DbBAVUGMOdg-00168-00044280-00044645 1892 wave Giles system apart from the DbBAVUGMOdg-00169-00044646-00044837 correction of a number of ambiguities DbBAVUGMOdg-00170-00044838-00045014 and inconsistencies within the Wade DbBAVUGMOdg-00171-00045015-00045227 system the innovation of the way Giles DbBAVUGMOdg-00172-00045228-00045623 system was that it also indicated tones DbBAVUGMOdg-00173-00045624-00045874 the weight child system used the spirit DbBAVUGMOdg-00174-00045875-00046073 of sass per diacritical marks and DbBAVUGMOdg-00175-00046074-00046544 superscript digits eg CH view of four DbBAVUGMOdg-00176-00046545-00047178 Franchi feo system the system devised in DbBAVUGMOdg-00177-00047179-00047451 1902 by seraphim Kivar of the a cold DbBAVUGMOdg-00178-00047452-00047646 front says dick stream orient was used DbBAVUGMOdg-00179-00047647-00047832 in most of the french-speaking world to DbBAVUGMOdg-00180-00047833-00048024 transliterate chinese until the middle DbBAVUGMOdg-00181-00048025-00048234 of the 20th century then gradually DbBAVUGMOdg-00182-00048235-00048587 replaced by Hanyu pinyin DbBAVUGMOdg-00183-00048588-00049177 postal romanization postal romanization DbBAVUGMOdg-00184-00049178-00049435 standardized in 1906 combined DbBAVUGMOdg-00185-00049436-00049689 traditional spellings local dialect and DbBAVUGMOdg-00186-00049690-00050074 Nanking syllabary Nanking syllabary is DbBAVUGMOdg-00187-00050075-00050287 one of various romanization systems DbBAVUGMOdg-00188-00050288-00050464 given in a popular Chinese English DbBAVUGMOdg-00189-00050465-00050773 dictionary by Herbert Giles it is based DbBAVUGMOdg-00190-00050774-00050995 on nan Jing pronunciation the French DbBAVUGMOdg-00191-00050996-00051178 administered the post-office at this DbBAVUGMOdg-00192-00051179-00051412 time the system resembles traditional DbBAVUGMOdg-00193-00051413-00051661 romanization x' used in France many of DbBAVUGMOdg-00194-00051662-00051858 these traditional spellings were created DbBAVUGMOdg-00195-00051859-00052077 by French missionaries in the 17th and DbBAVUGMOdg-00196-00052078-00052324 18th centuries when Nanjing dialect was DbBAVUGMOdg-00197-00052325-00052629 China's standard postal romanization was DbBAVUGMOdg-00198-00052630-00053019 used only for place names DbBAVUGMOdg-00199-00053020-00053616 Yale system the Yale romanization system DbBAVUGMOdg-00200-00053616-00053826 was created at Yale University during DbBAVUGMOdg-00201-00053827-00053988 World War two to facilitate DbBAVUGMOdg-00202-00053989-00054210 communication between American military DbBAVUGMOdg-00203-00054211-00054407 personnel and their Chinese counterparts DbBAVUGMOdg-00204-00054408-00054684 it uses a more regular spelling of DbBAVUGMOdg-00205-00054685-00054888 Mandarin phonemes than other systems of DbBAVUGMOdg-00206-00054889-00055104 its day this system was used for a long DbBAVUGMOdg-00207-00055104-00055287 time because it was used for phrase DbBAVUGMOdg-00208-00055288-00055473 books and part of the Yale system of DbBAVUGMOdg-00209-00055474-00055758 teaching Chinese the Yale system taught DbBAVUGMOdg-00210-00055759-00056001 Mandarin using spoken colloquial Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00211-00056002-00056262 patterns the Yale system of Mandarin has DbBAVUGMOdg-00212-00056263-00056454 since been superseded by the Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00213-00056454-00056759 Hanyu pinyin system DbBAVUGMOdg-00214-00056760-00057184 Chinese systems DbBAVUGMOdg-00215-00057185-00057703 she and Zenzi the first modern DbBAVUGMOdg-00216-00057704-00057907 indigenous Chinese romanization system DbBAVUGMOdg-00217-00057908-00058225 the Chi and zinzie qian chen new DbBAVUGMOdg-00218-00058226-00058576 phonetic alphabet was developed in 1892 DbBAVUGMOdg-00219-00058577-00059020 by Lu Zhang Zhang 1854 to 1928 it was DbBAVUGMOdg-00220-00059021-00059205 used to write the sounds of the shaman DbBAVUGMOdg-00221-00059207-00059500 dialect of southern men some people also DbBAVUGMOdg-00222-00059501-00059845 invented other phoneme systems DbBAVUGMOdg-00223-00059846-00060516 boy romancey in 1923 the Kuomintang DbBAVUGMOdg-00224-00060517-00060736 Ministry of Education instituted a DbBAVUGMOdg-00225-00060737-00060957 national language unification Commission DbBAVUGMOdg-00226-00060958-00061141 which in turn formed an 11-member DbBAVUGMOdg-00227-00061141-00061399 romanization unit the political DbBAVUGMOdg-00228-00061400-00061621 circumstances of the time prevented any DbBAVUGMOdg-00229-00061622-00061822 positive outcome from the formation of DbBAVUGMOdg-00230-00061823-00062019 this unit a new voluntary working DbBAVUGMOdg-00231-00062020-00062221 subcommittee was independently formed by DbBAVUGMOdg-00232-00062222-00062416 a group of five scholars who strongly DbBAVUGMOdg-00233-00062416-00062674 advocated romanization the Committee DbBAVUGMOdg-00234-00062675-00062901 which met 22 times over a 12-month DbBAVUGMOdg-00235-00062902-00063340 period 1925 1926 consisted of jo-ann DbBAVUGMOdg-00236-00063341-00063607 Hren Lin Yutang Chien's Anton Li Jing DbBAVUGMOdg-00237-00063608-00063913 Zhi Li Jian Chi and 1 Wang Yi they DbBAVUGMOdg-00238-00063914-00064111 developed the Glory romancey system DbBAVUGMOdg-00239-00064112-00064528 proclaimed on September 26 1928 the most DbBAVUGMOdg-00240-00064529-00064719 distinctive aspect of this new system DbBAVUGMOdg-00241-00064720-00064944 was that rather than relying upon marks DbBAVUGMOdg-00242-00064945-00065134 or numbers it indicated the tunnel DbBAVUGMOdg-00243-00065135-00065449 variations of that root syllable by a DbBAVUGMOdg-00244-00065450-00065680 systematic variation within the spelling DbBAVUGMOdg-00245-00065681-00065932 of the syllable itself the entire system DbBAVUGMOdg-00246-00065933-00066103 could be written with a standard QWERTY DbBAVUGMOdg-00247-00066104-00066306 keyboard DbBAVUGMOdg-00248-00066307-00066543 despite the fact that it was created to DbBAVUGMOdg-00249-00066544-00066749 eventually replace Chinese characters DbBAVUGMOdg-00250-00066750-00066936 and that it was constructed by linguists DbBAVUGMOdg-00251-00066937-00067167 Roy Rome at sea was never extensively DbBAVUGMOdg-00252-00067168-00067317 used for any purpose other than DbBAVUGMOdg-00253-00067318-00067538 delivering the pronunciation of specific DbBAVUGMOdg-00254-00067539-00067803 Chinese characters and dictionaries the DbBAVUGMOdg-00255-00067804-00068024 complexity of its tunnel system was such DbBAVUGMOdg-00256-00068025-00068320 that it was never popular DbBAVUGMOdg-00257-00068321-00068863 Ladon shifts in wins the work towards DbBAVUGMOdg-00258-00068864-00069031 constructing the Latin shifts in went DbBAVUGMOdg-00259-00069032-00069355 system began in Moscow as early as 1928 DbBAVUGMOdg-00260-00069356-00069532 when the Soviet Scientific Research DbBAVUGMOdg-00261-00069533-00069751 Institute on China sought to create a DbBAVUGMOdg-00262-00069752-00069931 means through which the large Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00263-00069932-00070126 population living in the far eastern DbBAVUGMOdg-00264-00070127-00070324 region of the USSR could be made DbBAVUGMOdg-00265-00070325-00070489 literate facilitating their further DbBAVUGMOdg-00266-00070490-00070736 education DbBAVUGMOdg-00267-00070737-00070961 from the very outset it was intended DbBAVUGMOdg-00268-00070962-00071168 that the Latin Chason went system once DbBAVUGMOdg-00269-00071169-00071366 established would supersede the Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00270-00071367-00071654 characters they decided to use the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00271-00071655-00071810 alphabet because they thought that it DbBAVUGMOdg-00272-00071811-00071951 would serve their purpose better than DbBAVUGMOdg-00273-00071952-00072266 Cyrillic unlike boy Rome at sea with its DbBAVUGMOdg-00274-00072267-00072527 complex method of indicating tones Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00275-00072528-00072698 chess in one system does not indicate DbBAVUGMOdg-00276-00072699-00072911 tones at all and it is not Mandarin DbBAVUGMOdg-00277-00072912-00073097 specific and so could be used for other DbBAVUGMOdg-00278-00073098-00073335 Chinese varieties DbBAVUGMOdg-00279-00073336-00073643 the eminent moscow-based chinese scholar DbBAVUGMOdg-00280-00073644-00074036 koochoo by 1899 to 1935 and the Russian DbBAVUGMOdg-00281-00074037-00074496 linguist vs khaliqul of 1896 to 1979 DbBAVUGMOdg-00282-00074497-00074726 devised a prototype romanization system DbBAVUGMOdg-00283-00074727-00075040 in 1929 DbBAVUGMOdg-00284-00075041-00075364 in 1931 a coordinated effort between the DbBAVUGMOdg-00285-00075365-00075706 Soviet psychologists BM Alex save a a DbBAVUGMOdg-00286-00075707-00076003 dragon of an AG sure Princeton and the DbBAVUGMOdg-00287-00076004-00076252 Moscow based Chinese scholars koochoo by DbBAVUGMOdg-00288-00076253-00076546 Wu using Lin VOC Lin beaucoup Xiao San DbBAVUGMOdg-00289-00076547-00076798 Huang Shan bow and shoot le established DbBAVUGMOdg-00290-00076799-00076966 the Latin shifts in one system the DbBAVUGMOdg-00291-00076967-00077206 system was supported by a number of DbBAVUGMOdg-00292-00077207-00077440 Chinese intellectuals such as Guo Mauro DbBAVUGMOdg-00293-00077441-00077623 and Liu Xuan and trials were conducted DbBAVUGMOdg-00294-00077624-00077911 amongst 100,000 Chinese immigrant DbBAVUGMOdg-00295-00077912-00078130 workers for about 4 years and later in DbBAVUGMOdg-00296-00078131-00078481 1940 to 1942 in the communist controlled DbBAVUGMOdg-00297-00078482-00078703 Shanxi Gansu ninja border region of DbBAVUGMOdg-00298-00078704-00079090 China in November 1949 the railways in DbBAVUGMOdg-00299-00079091-00079273 China's northeast adopted the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00300-00079274-00079447 shifts in went system for all their DbBAVUGMOdg-00301-00079448-00079690 telecommunications for a time the system DbBAVUGMOdg-00302-00079691-00079897 was very important in spreading literacy DbBAVUGMOdg-00303-00079898-00080074 in northern China and more than three DbBAVUGMOdg-00304-00080075-00080269 hundred publications totaling half a DbBAVUGMOdg-00305-00080270-00080455 million issues appeared in Latin shifts DbBAVUGMOdg-00306-00080456-00080725 in wins however the use of this system DbBAVUGMOdg-00307-00080726-00080938 was later cancelled due to its proposed DbBAVUGMOdg-00308-00080939-00081145 target of superseding longa graphic DbBAVUGMOdg-00309-00081146-00081355 Chinese characters altogether which was DbBAVUGMOdg-00310-00081356-00081796 deemed too radical in 1944 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00311-00081797-00081985 Latinization movement was officially DbBAVUGMOdg-00312-00081986-00082153 curtailed in the communist controlled DbBAVUGMOdg-00313-00082154-00082378 areas of China on the pretext that there DbBAVUGMOdg-00314-00082379-00082588 were insufficient trained cadres capable DbBAVUGMOdg-00315-00082589-00082837 of teaching the system it is more likely DbBAVUGMOdg-00316-00082838-00083053 that as the Communists prepared to take DbBAVUGMOdg-00317-00083054-00083284 power in a much wider territory they had DbBAVUGMOdg-00318-00083285-00083434 second thoughts about the rhetoric that DbBAVUGMOdg-00319-00083435-00083641 surrounded the Latinization movement in DbBAVUGMOdg-00320-00083642-00083839 order to obtain the maximum popular DbBAVUGMOdg-00321-00083840-00084022 support they withdrew support from a DbBAVUGMOdg-00322-00084023-00084178 movement that deeply offended many DbBAVUGMOdg-00323-00084179-00084349 supporters of the traditional writing DbBAVUGMOdg-00324-00084350-00084554 system DbBAVUGMOdg-00325-00084555-00085190 Hanyu pinyin in october 1949 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00326-00085191-00085391 association for reforming the chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00327-00085392-00085643 written language was established wu DbBAVUGMOdg-00328-00085644-00085853 using one of the creators of latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00329-00085854-00086032 shifts in whence was appointed chairman DbBAVUGMOdg-00330-00086033-00086269 all of the members of its initial DbBAVUGMOdg-00331-00086270-00086456 governing body belonged to either the DbBAVUGMOdg-00332-00086457-00086638 latin shifts in whens movement me hey DbBAVUGMOdg-00333-00086639-00086978 shoo me hi show in honda lin honda etc DbBAVUGMOdg-00334-00086979-00087191 or the GUI roam at see movement li Jing DbBAVUGMOdg-00335-00087192-00087494 see Li Jing Qi Liu o chang pay etc for DbBAVUGMOdg-00336-00087495-00087653 the most part they were also highly DbBAVUGMOdg-00337-00087654-00087938 trained linguists their first directive DbBAVUGMOdg-00338-00087939-00088361 1949 to 1952 was to take the phonetic DbBAVUGMOdg-00339-00088362-00088685 project adopting the Latin alphabet as DbBAVUGMOdg-00340-00088686-00089001 the main object of their research DbBAVUGMOdg-00341-00089002-00089285 linguist Joey Guang was put in charge of DbBAVUGMOdg-00342-00089286-00089465 this branch of the committee in a speech DbBAVUGMOdg-00343-00089466-00089792 delivered on January 10th 1958 Joe and DbBAVUGMOdg-00344-00089793-00089944 Lai observed that the committee had DbBAVUGMOdg-00345-00089945-00090128 spent three years attempting to create a DbBAVUGMOdg-00346-00090129-00090359 non Latin Chinese phonetic alphabet they DbBAVUGMOdg-00347-00090360-00090554 had also attempted to adapt soohyun for DbBAVUGMOdg-00348-00090555-00090854 Howell but no satisfactory result could DbBAVUGMOdg-00349-00090855-00091229 be obtained and the Latin alphabet was DbBAVUGMOdg-00350-00091230-00091318 then adopted DbBAVUGMOdg-00351-00091319-00091772 he also emphatically stated the DbBAVUGMOdg-00352-00091773-00091937 development of the Hanyu pinyin system DbBAVUGMOdg-00353-00091938-00092134 was a complex process involving DbBAVUGMOdg-00354-00092135-00092407 decisions on many difficult issues such DbBAVUGMOdg-00355-00092408-00092804 as should Hanyu pinyin z' pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00356-00092805-00093087 be based on that of Beijing DbBAVUGMOdg-00357-00093088-00093330 was Hanyu pinyin going to supersede DbBAVUGMOdg-00358-00093331-00093555 Chinese written characters altogether or DbBAVUGMOdg-00359-00093556-00093703 would it simply provide a guide to DbBAVUGMOdg-00360-00093704-00093958 pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00361-00093959-00094159 should the traditional Chinese writing DbBAVUGMOdg-00362-00094160-00094409 system be simplified DbBAVUGMOdg-00363-00094410-00094649 should Hanyu pinyin use the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00364-00094650-00094824 alphabet DbBAVUGMOdg-00365-00094825-00095109 should Hanyu pinyin indicate tones in DbBAVUGMOdg-00366-00095110-00095484 all cases as with Gorham at sea DbBAVUGMOdg-00367-00095485-00095744 should Hanyu pinyin be Mandarin specific DbBAVUGMOdg-00368-00095745-00095954 or adaptable to other dialects and other DbBAVUGMOdg-00369-00095955-00096229 Chinese varieties DbBAVUGMOdg-00370-00096230-00096466 with Hanyu pinyin to be created solely DbBAVUGMOdg-00371-00096467-00096664 to facilitate the spread of baton wood DbBAVUGMOdg-00372-00096665-00096829 throughout China despite the fact that DbBAVUGMOdg-00373-00096830-00097129 that draft scheme for a Chinese phonetic DbBAVUGMOdg-00374-00097130-00097519 alphabet published in people's China on DbBAVUGMOdg-00375-00097520-00097942 March 16 1956 contains certain unusual DbBAVUGMOdg-00376-00097943-00098131 and peculiar characters the committee DbBAVUGMOdg-00377-00098132-00098344 for research into language reform soon DbBAVUGMOdg-00378-00098345-00098554 reverted to the Latin alphabet citing DbBAVUGMOdg-00379-00098555-00098920 the following reasons the Latin alphabet DbBAVUGMOdg-00380-00098921-00099145 is extensively used by scientists DbBAVUGMOdg-00381-00099146-00099316 regardless of their native tongue and DbBAVUGMOdg-00382-00099317-00099511 technical terms are frequently written DbBAVUGMOdg-00383-00099512-00099713 in Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00384-00099714-00099950 the Latin alphabet is simple to write DbBAVUGMOdg-00385-00099951-00100061 and easy to read DbBAVUGMOdg-00386-00100062-00100278 it has been used for centuries all over DbBAVUGMOdg-00387-00100279-00100511 the world it is easily adaptable to the DbBAVUGMOdg-00388-00100512-00100894 task of recording Chinese pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00389-00100895-00101083 while the use of the Cyrillic alphabet DbBAVUGMOdg-00390-00101084-00101362 would strengthen ties with the USSR the DbBAVUGMOdg-00391-00101363-00101548 Latin alphabet is familiar to most DbBAVUGMOdg-00392-00101549-00101725 Russian students and its use would DbBAVUGMOdg-00393-00101726-00101899 strengthen the ties between China and DbBAVUGMOdg-00394-00101900-00102079 many of its Southeast Asian neighbors DbBAVUGMOdg-00395-00102080-00102277 who are already familiar with the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00396-00102278-00102763 alphabet as a response to Mao Zedong's DbBAVUGMOdg-00397-00102764-00103134 remarked that cultural patriotism should DbBAVUGMOdg-00398-00103135-00103468 be a weighty factor in the choice of an DbBAVUGMOdg-00399-00103469-00103668 alphabet despite the fact that the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00400-00103669-00103983 alphabet is foreign it will serve as a DbBAVUGMOdg-00401-00103984-00104188 strong tool for economic and industrial DbBAVUGMOdg-00402-00104189-00104449 expansion and moreover the fact that two DbBAVUGMOdg-00403-00104450-00104677 of the most patriotic Chinese choo-choo DbBAVUGMOdg-00404-00104678-00104859 by and Liu Xuan were such strong DbBAVUGMOdg-00405-00104860-00104992 advocates of the Latin alphabet DbBAVUGMOdg-00406-00104993-00105183 indicates that the choice does not DbBAVUGMOdg-00407-00105184-00105515 indicate any lack of patriotism DbBAVUGMOdg-00408-00105516-00105746 on the basis that the British French DbBAVUGMOdg-00409-00105747-00106052 Germans Spanish polish in Czechoslovakia DbBAVUGMOdg-00410-00106053-00106196 ng's have all modified the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00411-00106197-00106394 alphabet for their own usage and because DbBAVUGMOdg-00412-00106395-00106585 the Latin alphabet is derived from the DbBAVUGMOdg-00413-00106586-00106799 Greek alphabet which in turn came from DbBAVUGMOdg-00414-00106800-00106991 Phoenician and Egyptian there is as much DbBAVUGMOdg-00415-00106992-00107168 shame attached to using the Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00416-00107169-00107354 alphabet as there is in using Arabic DbBAVUGMOdg-00417-00107355-00107495 numerals and the conventional DbBAVUGMOdg-00418-00107496-00107702 mathematical symbols regardless of their DbBAVUGMOdg-00419-00107703-00107864 point of origin the movement for DbBAVUGMOdg-00420-00107865-00108044 language reform came to a standstill DbBAVUGMOdg-00421-00108045-00108233 during the Cultural Revolution and DbBAVUGMOdg-00422-00108233-00108428 nothing was published on language reform DbBAVUGMOdg-00423-00108429-00108866 or linguistics from 1966 to 1972 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00424-00108867-00109082 pinyin subtitles that had first appeared DbBAVUGMOdg-00425-00109083-00109250 on the masthead of the people's daily DbBAVUGMOdg-00426-00109251-00109469 newspaper and the red-flagged journal in DbBAVUGMOdg-00427-00109470-00109777 1958 did not appear at all between July DbBAVUGMOdg-00428-00109778-00110198 1966 in January 1977 in its final form DbBAVUGMOdg-00429-00110199-00110572 Hanyu pinyin was used to indicate DbBAVUGMOdg-00430-00110573-00110993 pronounciation only was exclusively DbBAVUGMOdg-00431-00110994-00111160 based on the pronunciation of the DbBAVUGMOdg-00432-00111161-00111405 Beijing dialect DbBAVUGMOdg-00433-00111406-00111826 included tone marks embodied the DbBAVUGMOdg-00434-00111827-00112183 traditional initial sound final sound DbBAVUGMOdg-00435-00112183-00112813 end suprasegmentals tone model was DbBAVUGMOdg-00436-00112814-00113017 written in the Latin alphabet an opinion DbBAVUGMOdg-00437-00113018-00113407 has developed from Mao s 1951 directive DbBAVUGMOdg-00438-00113408-00113649 through the promulgation on November 1st DbBAVUGMOdg-00439-00113650-00113961 1957 of a draft version by the state DbBAVUGMOdg-00440-00113963-00114217 council to its final form being approved DbBAVUGMOdg-00441-00114218-00114529 by the State Council in September 1978 DbBAVUGMOdg-00442-00114530-00114826 to being accepted in 1982 by the DbBAVUGMOdg-00443-00114827-00115006 International Organization for DbBAVUGMOdg-00444-00115007-00115236 Standardization as the standard for DbBAVUGMOdg-00445-00115238-00115513 transcribing Chinese John de Francis has DbBAVUGMOdg-00446-00115514-00115876 described Mao Zedong as belief the DbBAVUGMOdg-00447-00115877-00116083 opinion would eventually replace Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00448-00116083-00116281 characters but this has not come to pass DbBAVUGMOdg-00449-00116282-00116470 and in fact such a plan had already DbBAVUGMOdg-00450-00116471-00116661 ceased together with the end of Latin DbBAVUGMOdg-00451-00116663-00117045 shifts in Wen's movement DbBAVUGMOdg-00452-00117046-00117547 variations in pronunciation DbBAVUGMOdg-00453-00117548-00117890 the Chinese and Japanese repository DbBAVUGMOdg-00454-00117891-00118108 stated that romanization would DbBAVUGMOdg-00455-00118108-00118282 standardize the various differing DbBAVUGMOdg-00456-00118283-00118525 pronunciations Chinese often had for one DbBAVUGMOdg-00457-00118526-00118713 word which was common for all mostly DbBAVUGMOdg-00458-00118714-00118996 unwritten languages contributor Rev DbBAVUGMOdg-00459-00118997-00119299 James Summers wrote in 1863 those who DbBAVUGMOdg-00460-00119300-00119460 know anything of the rude and unwritten DbBAVUGMOdg-00461-00119461-00119632 languages of the other parts of the DbBAVUGMOdg-00462-00119633-00119770 world will have no difficulty in DbBAVUGMOdg-00463-00119771-00119940 imagining the state of the spoken DbBAVUGMOdg-00464-00119941-00120199 dialects of China the most various DbBAVUGMOdg-00465-00120200-00120390 shades of pronunciation are common DbBAVUGMOdg-00466-00120391-00120576 arising from the want of the analytic DbBAVUGMOdg-00467-00120577-00120750 process of writing by means of an DbBAVUGMOdg-00468-00120751-00121024 alphabet the has no conception DbBAVUGMOdg-00469-00121025-00121233 of the number or character of the sounds DbBAVUGMOdg-00470-00121234-00121410 which he utters when he says mouth pain DbBAVUGMOdg-00471-00121411-00121621 indeed one man will call it ma DbBAVUGMOdg-00472-00121622-00121846 more Bing and another mo Kyong without DbBAVUGMOdg-00473-00121847-00122016 the first man perceiving the difference DbBAVUGMOdg-00474-00122017-00122293 by the people themselves these changes DbBAVUGMOdg-00475-00122294-00122484 are considered to be simple variations DbBAVUGMOdg-00476-00122485-00122751 which are of no consequence and if we DbBAVUGMOdg-00477-00122752-00123036 look into the English of Chaucer s or of DbBAVUGMOdg-00478-00123038-00123339 Wickliffe s time or the French of Marco DbBAVUGMOdg-00479-00123340-00123523 Polo's age we shall find a similar DbBAVUGMOdg-00480-00123524-00123718 looseness and inattention to correct DbBAVUGMOdg-00481-00123719-00123898 spelling because these languages were DbBAVUGMOdg-00482-00123899-00124069 written by few and when the orthography DbBAVUGMOdg-00483-00124070-00124359 was unsettled times are changed every DbBAVUGMOdg-00484-00124360-00124575 poor man may now learn to read and write DbBAVUGMOdg-00485-00124576-00124768 his own language in less than a month DbBAVUGMOdg-00486-00124769-00124933 and with a little pains he may do it DbBAVUGMOdg-00487-00124933-00125214 correctly with practice the consequence DbBAVUGMOdg-00488-00125215-00125400 is that a higher degree of comfort and DbBAVUGMOdg-00489-00125401-00125575 happiness is reached by many who could DbBAVUGMOdg-00490-00125576-00125743 never have risen above the level of the DbBAVUGMOdg-00491-00125744-00125881 serf and the slave without this DbBAVUGMOdg-00492-00125882-00126165 intellectual lever the poor may read the DbBAVUGMOdg-00493-00126166-00126360 gospel as well as hear it preached and DbBAVUGMOdg-00494-00126361-00126520 the cottage library becomes a DbBAVUGMOdg-00495-00126521-00126718 never-failing treasury of profit to the DbBAVUGMOdg-00496-00126719-00127067 labouring classes DbBAVUGMOdg-00497-00127068-00127652 see also comparison of Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00498-00127653-00128099 romanization systems transliteration of DbBAVUGMOdg-00499-00128100-00128480 Chinese transcription into Chinese DbBAVUGMOdg-00500-00128481-00129131 characters romanization of Japanese DbBAVUGMOdg-00501-00129132-00129560 notes DbBAVUGMOdg-00502-00129561-00129992 references DbBAVUGMOdg-00503-00129993-00130354 citations DbBAVUGMOdg-00504-00130355-00130763 sources DbBAVUGMOdg-00505-00130764-00131183 external links DbBAVUGMOdg-00506-00131184-00131537 Donald MacGillivray 1907 a Mandarin DbBAVUGMOdg-00507-00131538-00131768 romanized dictionary of Chinese to add DbBAVUGMOdg-00508-00131769-00131984 printed at the Presbyterian mission DbBAVUGMOdg-00509-00131985-00132433 press retrieved the 15th of May 2011 DbBAVUGMOdg-00510-00132434-00132735 China Christian educational association DbBAVUGMOdg-00511-00132736-00133042 1904 primer of the standard system of DbBAVUGMOdg-00512-00133043-00133291 Mandarin romanization Shanghai printed DbBAVUGMOdg-00513-00133292-00133585 at the Amer Presbyterian mission press P DbBAVUGMOdg-00514-00133586-00133948 78 retrieved the 15th of May 2011 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00515-00133949-00134377 University of California educational DbBAVUGMOdg-00516-00134378-00134794 Association of China fe mates 1905 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00517-00134795-00135022 standard system of Mandarin romanization DbBAVUGMOdg-00518-00135023-00135337 vol 2 printed at American Presbyterian DbBAVUGMOdg-00519-00135338-00135592 mission press retrieved the 15th of May DbBAVUGMOdg-00520-00135593-00135854 2011 DbBAVUGMOdg-00521-00135855-00136194 educational Association of China 1904 DbBAVUGMOdg-00522-00136195-00136398 the standard system of Mandarin DbBAVUGMOdg-00523-00136399-00136623 romanization introduction sound table DbBAVUGMOdg-00524-00136624-00136935 and syllabary Shanghai American DbBAVUGMOdg-00525-00136936-00137247 Presbyterian mission press P 100 DbBAVUGMOdg-00526-00137248-00137499 retrieved the 15th of May 2011 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00527-00137500-00137937 University of California educational DbBAVUGMOdg-00528-00137938-00138354 Association of China fe maids 1904 the DbBAVUGMOdg-00529-00138355-00138582 standard system of Mandarin romanization DbBAVUGMOdg-00530-00138583-00138882 vol to Shanghai printed at American DbBAVUGMOdg-00531-00138883-00139206 Presbyterian mission Press DbBAVUGMOdg-00532-00139207-00139448 Mandarin Chinese pinyin tabled a DbBAVUGMOdg-00533-00139449-00139659 complete listing of all pinyin syllables DbBAVUGMOdg-00534-00139660-00139857 and their variations used in standard DbBAVUGMOdg-00535-00139858-00140034 Mandarin along with native speaker DbBAVUGMOdg-00536-00140035-00140453 pronunciation for each syllable overview DbBAVUGMOdg-00537-00140454-00140852 of Chinese phonetic transcription Java DbBAVUGMOdg-00538-00140853-00141065 based tool for converting texts into DbBAVUGMOdg-00539-00141066-00141483 different 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solomon's temple yeah about the DhJOqjXsYwM-00024-00010720-00010903 vatican assassins and how they will get DhJOqjXsYwM-00025-00010904-00011071 you and how they clone barack hussein DhJOqjXsYwM-00026-00011072-00011271 obama in a test tube it's like we all DhJOqjXsYwM-00027-00011272-00011431 know what's going down but no one's DhJOqjXsYwM-00028-00011432-00011599 saying [__] what happened to the home of DhJOqjXsYwM-00029-00011600-00011806 the brave these [__] they DhJOqjXsYwM-00030-00011807-00011991 controlling us now when no one's talking DhJOqjXsYwM-00031-00011992-00012135 about how they made us fighting these DhJOqjXsYwM-00032-00012136-00012383 slaves and everybody's just walking DhJOqjXsYwM-00033-00012384-00012601 around DhJOqjXsYwM-00034-00012602-00013143 [Music] DhJOqjXsYwM-00035-00013144-00013351 whoever built the pyramids had knowledge DhJOqjXsYwM-00036-00013352-00013535 of electrical power and you know that DhJOqjXsYwM-00037-00013536-00013671 that's the information that they DhJOqjXsYwM-00038-00013672-00013863 suppress and devour who you think the DhJOqjXsYwM-00039-00013863-00014055 [__] that crash in the tower DhJOqjXsYwM-00040-00014056-00014207 who you think that made it turn into DhJOqjXsYwM-00041-00014208-00014407 action an hour the same ones that DhJOqjXsYwM-00042-00014408-00014599 invaded jerome the ones that never told DhJOqjXsYwM-00043-00014600-00014815 you about the skeletons on the moon yeah DhJOqjXsYwM-00044-00014816-00014966 the ones that poison all the food you DhJOqjXsYwM-00045-00014968-00015127 consume the ones that never told you DhJOqjXsYwM-00046-00015128-00015343 about the mount vesuvius tombs DhJOqjXsYwM-00047-00015344-00015671 the bird flu is a lie why would that DhJOqjXsYwM-00048-00015672-00015943 even come as a surprise yeah the polio DhJOqjXsYwM-00049-00015944-00016143 god see made you die they caused cancer DhJOqjXsYwM-00050-00016144-00016375 and it cost a lot of people their lives DhJOqjXsYwM-00051-00016376-00016607 did y'all know about bohemian grove how DhJOqjXsYwM-00052-00016608-00016791 the world leaders sacrifice to children DhJOqjXsYwM-00053-00016792-00017047 in robes lucifer is guarding the public DhJOqjXsYwM-00054-00017048-00017279 school system i suggest you open up your DhJOqjXsYwM-00055-00017280-00017494 ears and you listen it's like we all DhJOqjXsYwM-00056-00017495-00017663 know what's going down but no one's DhJOqjXsYwM-00057-00017664-00017822 saying to what happened to the home of DhJOqjXsYwM-00058-00017823-00018086 the brave [__] they controlling DhJOqjXsYwM-00059-00018087-00018263 us now and no one's talking about how DhJOqjXsYwM-00060-00018264-00018437 they made DhJOqjXsYwM-00061-00018438-00019494 [Music] DhJOqjXsYwM-00062-00019495-00019733 the greatest hypnotist on planet earth DhJOqjXsYwM-00063-00019734-00021791 [Music] DhJOqjXsYwM-00064-00021792-00022131 and they have DiTJLJRK_iM-00000-00000038-00000371 DeSoto National Wildlife Refuge created DiTJLJRK_iM-00001-00000372-00000649 in 1958 as located along the banks of DiTJLJRK_iM-00002-00000650-00000836 the Missouri River in the US states of DiTJLJRK_iM-00003-00000836-00001378 Iowa and Nebraska the 8360 two-acre 33.8 DiTJLJRK_iM-00004-00001379-00001702 three square kilometers refuge 46% in DiTJLJRK_iM-00005-00001703-00002030 iowa 54% in nebraska preserves an area DiTJLJRK_iM-00006-00002030-00002185 that would have been otherwise lost to DiTJLJRK_iM-00007-00002186-00002525 cultivation in 1960 an Army Corps of DiTJLJRK_iM-00008-00002526-00002756 Engineers channelization project on the DiTJLJRK_iM-00009-00002757-00002921 Missouri River moved the main river DiTJLJRK_iM-00010-00002922-00003107 channel in the area to the west DiTJLJRK_iM-00011-00003108-00003368 the former river channel became DeSoto DiTJLJRK_iM-00012-00003369-00003677 Lake a seven mile long oxbow lake as a DiTJLJRK_iM-00013-00003678-00003902 result part of the Nebraska portion of DiTJLJRK_iM-00014-00003903-00004097 the refuge lies on the east side of the DiTJLJRK_iM-00015-00004098-00004400 Missouri River for over 20 years after DiTJLJRK_iM-00016-00004401-00004595 construction the lake was used for DiTJLJRK_iM-00017-00004596-00004775 recreational boating with half of the DiTJLJRK_iM-00018-00004776-00004979 lake designated for watersports and the DiTJLJRK_iM-00019-00004980-00005168 other half a no-wake zone for wildlife DiTJLJRK_iM-00020-00005169-00005435 habitat and fishing the lake was so DiTJLJRK_iM-00021-00005436-00005638 popular that access was limited by the DiTJLJRK_iM-00022-00005639-00005825 parks rangers to keep the boat traffic DiTJLJRK_iM-00023-00005826-00006043 down on the lake on Saturday and Sunday DiTJLJRK_iM-00024-00006044-00006350 afternoons the lakes marina snack bar DiTJLJRK_iM-00025-00006351-00006569 swimming area and boat ramps were all DiTJLJRK_iM-00026-00006570-00006773 removed and restrictions were placed on DiTJLJRK_iM-00027-00006773-00007016 boat operation today the refuge is home DiTJLJRK_iM-00028-00007017-00007250 to around 30 mammal species including DiTJLJRK_iM-00029-00007251-00007471 white-tailed deer beavers opossums DiTJLJRK_iM-00030-00007472-00007748 raccoons fox squirrels muskrats and DiTJLJRK_iM-00031-00007748-00008081 coyotes many bird species also inhabit DiTJLJRK_iM-00032-00008081-00008303 the refuge such as bald eagles great DiTJLJRK_iM-00033-00008304-00008585 blue herons egrets pelicans turkeys and DiTJLJRK_iM-00034-00008586-00008852 Cardinals the refuge is also a major DiTJLJRK_iM-00035-00008853-00009064 stopover on the central Flyway bird DiTJLJRK_iM-00036-00009065-00009251 migration route the population of DiTJLJRK_iM-00037-00009252-00009434 migratory birds increases substantially DiTJLJRK_iM-00038-00009435-00009710 in the spring and fall months the DiTJLJRK_iM-00039-00009711-00009920 numbers of snow geese used to frequently DiTJLJRK_iM-00040-00009921-00010103 be in the hundreds of thousands but for DiTJLJRK_iM-00041-00010104-00010283 unknown reasons has substantially DiTJLJRK_iM-00042-00010284-00010445 dropped for only a few thousand a year DiTJLJRK_iM-00043-00010446-00010742 not at once the population of Canada DiTJLJRK_iM-00044-00010743-00010949 geese that stopped at the lake before it DiTJLJRK_iM-00045-00010950-00011191 was channelized as once again rising DiTJLJRK_iM-00046-00011192-00011456 several miles of nature trails provide DiTJLJRK_iM-00047-00011457-00011656 access to the varied landscapes of the DiTJLJRK_iM-00048-00011657-00011935 refuge dogs are permitted only under DiTJLJRK_iM-00049-00011936-00012128 physical restrictive control of a leash DiTJLJRK_iM-00050-00012129-00012226 at all times DiTJLJRK_iM-00051-00012227-00012473 hunting is allowed in season for deer DiTJLJRK_iM-00052-00012474-00012680 turkey and pheasant with a permit and DiTJLJRK_iM-00053-00012681-00012851 there are several fishing piers along DiTJLJRK_iM-00054-00012852-00013010 the lake which are open outside of the DiTJLJRK_iM-00055-00013011-00013215 bird migration seasons DiTJLJRK_iM-00056-00013216-00013466 the refuge also documents the area's DiTJLJRK_iM-00057-00013468-00013785 human history in 1865 the stern-wheel DiTJLJRK_iM-00058-00013786-00014007 steamboat Bertrand bound for the Montana DiTJLJRK_iM-00059-00014008-00014241 territory sank in the Missouri River the DiTJLJRK_iM-00060-00014241-00014499 boat in its cargo rested on the river DiTJLJRK_iM-00061-00014500-00014766 bottom until 1968 when the wreck was DiTJLJRK_iM-00062-00014766-00015102 rediscovered over 500,000 items were DiTJLJRK_iM-00063-00015103-00015294 excavated from the wreck many of them DiTJLJRK_iM-00064-00015294-00015540 were in excellent condition catalogue DiTJLJRK_iM-00065-00015541-00015696 numbers are now in the upper five DiTJLJRK_iM-00066-00015697-00015906 thousands each number sometimes only DiTJLJRK_iM-00067-00015907-00016140 having one related object or in the case DiTJLJRK_iM-00068-00016141-00016434 of males tens of thousands a visitor DiTJLJRK_iM-00069-00016435-00016641 center in the refuge displays many of DiTJLJRK_iM-00070-00016642-00016890 these items the bertrand site is listed DiTJLJRK_iM-00071-00016891-00017040 on the National Register of Historic DiTJLJRK_iM-00072-00017041-00017412 Places DeSoto National Wildlife Refuge DiTJLJRK_iM-00073-00017413-00017730 is located 5 miles 8 kilometers east of DiTJLJRK_iM-00074-00017731-00018057 Blair Nebraska access to the refuge is DiTJLJRK_iM-00075-00018058-00018249 on US Route 30 between Blair and DiTJLJRK_iM-00076-00018250-00018887 interstate 29 DiTJLJRK_iM-00077-00018888-00019419 topic see also DiTJLJRK_iM-00078-00019420-00019722 boyeur shoot National Wildlife Refuge DiTJLJRK_iM-00079-00019723-00020181 Fort Atkinson State Historic Park EoF6YpPdyJM-00000-00001043-00003415 [Music] EoF6YpPdyJM-00001-00003415-00003625 so EoF6YpPdyJM-00003-00006870-00007734 [Music] EoF6YpPdyJM-00004-00007736-00008123 so EoF6YpPdyJM-00005-00008123-00010487 [Music] 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assisting in E0pIXgVgnBY-00012-00003411-00003740 Discovery Award in 2009 he was the E0pIXgVgnBY-00013-00003740-00004031 recipient of the National Institute for E0pIXgVgnBY-00014-00004032-00004259 staff and development Excellence Award E0pIXgVgnBY-00015-00004260-00004709 and he recently won the 2018 faculty and E0pIXgVgnBY-00016-00004710-00004943 staff of color conference faculty Award E0pIXgVgnBY-00017-00004944-00005386 of Excellence I had the pleasure to hear E0pIXgVgnBY-00018-00005387-00005597 his story at the diversity summit when E0pIXgVgnBY-00019-00005598-00005809 he presented there so I was delighted E0pIXgVgnBY-00020-00005810-00006206 when he accepted our asked to come and E0pIXgVgnBY-00021-00006207-00006545 speak with all of you so please give a E0pIXgVgnBY-00022-00006545-00009046 welcome to Darrell good morning y'all go E0pIXgVgnBY-00023-00009047-00009380 flag good morning I wanted to say you E0pIXgVgnBY-00024-00009381-00009653 know what's up wack but you know wet and E0pIXgVgnBY-00025-00009654-00009794 hip-hop culture me something different E0pIXgVgnBY-00026-00009795-00010831 so I'm gonna refrain from that stay stay E0pIXgVgnBY-00027-00010832-00011203 close to the computer E0pIXgVgnBY-00028-00011204-00011410 all right so I was thrilled when E0pIXgVgnBY-00029-00011411-00011590 Kathleen reached out to me to talk about E0pIXgVgnBY-00030-00011591-00011854 you know sort of looking at engagement E0pIXgVgnBY-00031-00011855-00012064 through an equity lens she saw me out at E0pIXgVgnBY-00032-00012065-00012325 diversity Institute and it's kind of E0pIXgVgnBY-00033-00012326-00012505 ironic that I'm here talking at a canvas E0pIXgVgnBY-00034-00012506-00012748 conference because I was a long time E0pIXgVgnBY-00035-00012749-00013006 holdout to you know eLearning right E0pIXgVgnBY-00036-00013007-00013191 because we will get into that in a E0pIXgVgnBY-00037-00013193-00013354 little bit so it's you know great to be E0pIXgVgnBY-00038-00013355-00013651 here so first things first anybody know E0pIXgVgnBY-00039-00013652-00013806 who that is E0pIXgVgnBY-00040-00013807-00014059 the aquaduct man I gotta find always E0pIXgVgnBY-00041-00014060-00014329 need to find my fellow geeks all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00042-00014330-00014530 so you know I like to identify that E0pIXgVgnBY-00043-00014531-00014779 early so I appreciate y'all right and I E0pIXgVgnBY-00044-00014780-00014926 always start with talking duck because E0pIXgVgnBY-00045-00014927-00015199 you know he was just brilliant you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00046-00015200-00015352 sort of cartoon that I didn't appreciate E0pIXgVgnBY-00047-00015353-00015666 to like 15 years later right he would E0pIXgVgnBY-00048-00015668-00015871 always appear in a puff of smoke and you E0pIXgVgnBY-00049-00015872-00016021 know with say witty things like you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00050-00016022-00016191 I'm da Queen duck I'm the cholesterol E0pIXgVgnBY-00051-00016193-00016347 that clogs up the arteries of your heart E0pIXgVgnBY-00052-00016349-00016615 all right and there's like 15 years late E0pIXgVgnBY-00053-00016616-00016816 I appreciated this so I always stop my E0pIXgVgnBY-00054-00016817-00017005 speeches talking about darkling duck E0pIXgVgnBY-00055-00017006-00017200 because if you don't get it now 15 years E0pIXgVgnBY-00056-00017201-00017371 later you might wake up be like damn he E0pIXgVgnBY-00057-00017372-00017956 was brilliant right so maari's actually E0pIXgVgnBY-00058-00017957-00018205 he's a grandmaster you know chess player E0pIXgVgnBY-00059-00018206-00018415 and one of the things he says in his TED E0pIXgVgnBY-00060-00018416-00018631 talk is he says a lot of people think E0pIXgVgnBY-00061-00018632-00018822 that you know chess players have like 30 E0pIXgVgnBY-00062-00018823-00019072 moves and they had planned ahead he said E0pIXgVgnBY-00063-00019073-00019228 that's not true he said what we actually E0pIXgVgnBY-00064-00019229-00019441 do is practice like the last four or E0pIXgVgnBY-00065-00019442-00019594 five moves because if you're planning to E0pIXgVgnBY-00066-00019595-00019813 get somebody that's good y'all gonna get E0pIXgVgnBY-00067-00019814-00019981 down you know to like four or five E0pIXgVgnBY-00068-00019982-00020224 pieces left apiece right and so he says E0pIXgVgnBY-00069-00020225-00020365 four chess players one of the things E0pIXgVgnBY-00070-00020366-00020518 that they do is they like to you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00071-00020519-00020710 start with the end in mind or think E0pIXgVgnBY-00072-00020711-00020875 backwards and that's the way they solve E0pIXgVgnBY-00073-00020876-00021088 a lot of their you know problems so I E0pIXgVgnBY-00074-00021089-00021199 thought that would be a good place for E0pIXgVgnBY-00075-00021200-00021547 us to start sound good all right so E0pIXgVgnBY-00076-00021548-00021655 instead of talking about engagement E0pIXgVgnBY-00077-00021656-00021846 let's talk about some of these antonyms E0pIXgVgnBY-00078-00021847-00022197 right this engaged in Albertville not E0pIXgVgnBY-00079-00022198-00022507 working you know uninvolved sounds like E0pIXgVgnBY-00080-00022508-00022624 you know some of the students you might E0pIXgVgnBY-00081-00022625-00022846 encounter in your classroom right you're E0pIXgVgnBY-00082-00022847-00022990 trying to get them you know locked in E0pIXgVgnBY-00083-00022991-00023164 want them to be involved in a material E0pIXgVgnBY-00084-00023165-00023472 but they might not be and I wanna you E0pIXgVgnBY-00085-00023473-00023656 know talk about why they might not be E0pIXgVgnBY-00086-00023657-00023857 engaged right through an equity lens E0pIXgVgnBY-00087-00023858-00024106 right especially students of color E0pIXgVgnBY-00088-00024107-00024316 so before we start always like then E0pIXgVgnBY-00089-00024317-00024469 folks some of the ancestors you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00090-00024470-00024607 bring them in the room with us so this E0pIXgVgnBY-00091-00024608-00024826 is a quote by Steve Biko who was a South E0pIXgVgnBY-00092-00024827-00025036 African freedom fighter and he says the E0pIXgVgnBY-00093-00025037-00025183 greatest weapon in the hand of the E0pIXgVgnBY-00094-00025184-00025430 oppressor is the mind of the oppressed E0pIXgVgnBY-00095-00025431-00025677 right so I always try to encourage E0pIXgVgnBY-00096-00025679-00025884 educators to think about you know how E0pIXgVgnBY-00097-00025885-00026200 important your job actually is all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00098-00026201-00026452 are you educating for liberation are you E0pIXgVgnBY-00099-00026452-00026650 educating for you know to keep people E0pIXgVgnBY-00100-00026651-00026902 oppressed and then I love the Malcolm X E0pIXgVgnBY-00101-00026902-00027205 quote all right I love this only a fool E0pIXgVgnBY-00102-00027206-00027371 would let his enemy educate his children E0pIXgVgnBY-00103-00027372-00027781 makes a lot of sense to me right so as a E0pIXgVgnBY-00104-00027782-00028020 jumping-off point always thought E0pIXgVgnBY-00105-00028022-00028212 conversations like this about you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00106-00028213-00028555 what is education actually it's you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00107-00028556-00028737 funny how many people really don't know E0pIXgVgnBY-00108-00028738-00028908 about the root word you know in E0pIXgVgnBY-00109-00028910-00029115 education which is to reduce and to E0pIXgVgnBY-00110-00029116-00029248 think about it from you know that point E0pIXgVgnBY-00111-00029249-00029467 of view which means to bring out some E0pIXgVgnBY-00112-00029468-00029670 latent trait that's already there right E0pIXgVgnBY-00113-00029672-00029887 and your students right not this banking E0pIXgVgnBY-00114-00029888-00030082 model that Paulo Freire a you know sort E0pIXgVgnBY-00115-00030083-00030240 of argued against that you just deposit E0pIXgVgnBY-00116-00030241-00030376 and stuff in your students and want them E0pIXgVgnBY-00117-00030377-00030601 to spit it back out to you right on you E0pIXgVgnBY-00118-00030602-00030883 know tests or exams that make sense all E0pIXgVgnBY-00119-00030883-00031012 right so we're trying to bring out stuff E0pIXgVgnBY-00120-00031013-00031198 that's already in there you know in our E0pIXgVgnBY-00121-00031199-00031336 students so how do we go about doing E0pIXgVgnBY-00122-00031337-00031602 that you know in a in face class or in E0pIXgVgnBY-00123-00031603-00032011 the online you know community the next E0pIXgVgnBY-00124-00032012-00032220 thing I talk about is this notion of E0pIXgVgnBY-00125-00032222-00032415 Education versus training all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00126-00032416-00032548 Bobby right talked about this and a E0pIXgVgnBY-00127-00032549-00032715 psychopathic racial personality you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00128-00032716-00032881 people as interested in race always tell E0pIXgVgnBY-00129-00032882-00033102 them check that book out you might not E0pIXgVgnBY-00130-00033103-00033283 like what you hear but it's important E0pIXgVgnBY-00131-00033284-00033465 you know for you to hear it and he says E0pIXgVgnBY-00132-00033466-00033612 there's a difference between education E0pIXgVgnBY-00133-00033613-00033670 and training E0pIXgVgnBY-00134-00033671-00033898 he says education is you know when E0pIXgVgnBY-00135-00033899-00034015 you're doing something to help people E0pIXgVgnBY-00136-00034016-00034210 better themselves as an individual that E0pIXgVgnBY-00137-00034211-00034318 they can then take back to their E0pIXgVgnBY-00138-00034319-00034437 communities and help them better their E0pIXgVgnBY-00139-00034438-00034504 communities E0pIXgVgnBY-00140-00034505-00034687 he says training is when the oppressor E0pIXgVgnBY-00141-00034688-00034902 you know gives the individual something E0pIXgVgnBY-00142-00034903-00035062 that can help the oppressor live a E0pIXgVgnBY-00143-00035063-00035323 better life and help them you know build E0pIXgVgnBY-00144-00035324-00035508 up their communities he says that's the E0pIXgVgnBY-00145-00035509-00035727 distinction and always put this picture E0pIXgVgnBY-00146-00035728-00035986 up here because the example he gave was E0pIXgVgnBY-00147-00035987-00036214 you know a dog he was like when you see E0pIXgVgnBY-00148-00036215-00036471 a dog teaching you know its pups how to E0pIXgVgnBY-00149-00036472-00036676 bark and defend itself against you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00150-00036677-00036829 possible intruders or things that can E0pIXgVgnBY-00151-00036830-00037057 hurt it that's education right when you E0pIXgVgnBY-00152-00037058-00037210 dress that dog up in the top hat and E0pIXgVgnBY-00153-00037211-00037399 have it riding around on a unicycle and E0pIXgVgnBY-00154-00037400-00037537 doing all that kind of stuff and jumping E0pIXgVgnBY-00155-00037538-00037762 through hoops that's training right E0pIXgVgnBY-00156-00037763-00037853 that's what a mass E0pIXgVgnBY-00157-00037854-00038024 there's you know approval make them feel E0pIXgVgnBY-00158-00038025-00038195 better that I got nothing to do with the E0pIXgVgnBY-00159-00038196-00038420 dog living a better life does that make E0pIXgVgnBY-00160-00038421-00038663 sense all right and so you know think E0pIXgVgnBY-00161-00038664-00038879 about that in terms of you know what we E0pIXgVgnBY-00162-00038880-00039191 do in the classrooms so I always argue E0pIXgVgnBY-00163-00039192-00039362 that one of the way that institutions E0pIXgVgnBY-00164-00039363-00039632 operate is and the reason we see so many E0pIXgVgnBY-00165-00039633-00039836 gaps and so many disparities is because E0pIXgVgnBY-00166-00039837-00040010 it's still operating on this equality E0pIXgVgnBY-00167-00040011-00040256 model right we're past that we're on the E0pIXgVgnBY-00168-00040257-00040445 equity model and there's a really easy E0pIXgVgnBY-00169-00040446-00040655 way to you know break that down equality E0pIXgVgnBY-00170-00040656-00040865 is treating everybody the same equity is E0pIXgVgnBY-00171-00040866-00040994 making sure people getting what they E0pIXgVgnBY-00172-00040995-00041276 need to be successful all right this is E0pIXgVgnBY-00173-00041277-00041420 why you can't have a production line E0pIXgVgnBY-00174-00041421-00041594 mentality when you're talking about you E0pIXgVgnBY-00175-00041595-00041771 know teaching you have to think about E0pIXgVgnBY-00176-00041772-00041936 how it's affecting the impact in you E0pIXgVgnBY-00177-00041937-00042110 know individual students with individual E0pIXgVgnBY-00178-00042111-00042461 you know sort of social identities and E0pIXgVgnBY-00179-00042462-00042710 so on and so forth so the reason that E0pIXgVgnBY-00180-00042711-00042863 picture is up there and always joke I'll E0pIXgVgnBY-00181-00042864-00043004 be like man cuz you know diversity and E0pIXgVgnBY-00182-00043005-00043142 equity work I send you to the hospital E0pIXgVgnBY-00183-00043143-00043484 alright that's partly true but the E0pIXgVgnBY-00184-00043485-00043664 example that I always use when I talk 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E0pIXgVgnBY-00198-00046224-00046445 comes out then says okay today is E0pIXgVgnBY-00199-00046446-00046673 aspirin day no matter what's wrong with E0pIXgVgnBY-00200-00046674-00046895 you everybody get an aspirin alright we E0pIXgVgnBY-00201-00046896-00047027 will just treat everybody the same E0pIXgVgnBY-00202-00047028-00047237 an equity model would be for the doctor E0pIXgVgnBY-00203-00047238-00047396 to come out and assess what your problem E0pIXgVgnBY-00204-00047397-00047621 is and then you know address that and E0pIXgVgnBY-00205-00047622-00047939 fix you make sense all right that's the E0pIXgVgnBY-00206-00047940-00048257 the sort of distinction between you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00207-00048258-00048350 equity and equality E0pIXgVgnBY-00208-00048351-00048599 so these are some demographics you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00209-00048600-00048740 right for K through 12 in the state of E0pIXgVgnBY-00210-00048741-00049022 Washington from OSPI all right and if E0pIXgVgnBY-00211-00049023-00049274 you look you see what student tends to E0pIXgVgnBY-00212-00049275-00049433 have a teacher that sort of comes from E0pIXgVgnBY-00213-00049434-00049586 their same cultural background might E0pIXgVgnBY-00214-00049587-00049775 sound like them might teach like them E0pIXgVgnBY-00215-00049776-00049949 right and so when you think about E0pIXgVgnBY-00216-00049950-00050222 so-called achievement gaps all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00217-00050223-00050429 very few people acknowledge that this E0pIXgVgnBY-00218-00050430-00050720 might be a reason for it right if I went E0pIXgVgnBY-00219-00050721-00050846 around a room y'all could probably give E0pIXgVgnBY-00220-00050847-00050969 me a whole bunch of reasons for the E0pIXgVgnBY-00221-00050970-00051225 achievement gap nobody talks about you E0pIXgVgnBY-00222-00051226-00051603 this as a reason alright it goes you E0pIXgVgnBY-00223-00051604-00051699 know even deeper than that E0pIXgVgnBY-00224-00051700-00051924 so always talk about Antonio Gramsci E0pIXgVgnBY-00225-00051925-00052085 anybody know grouchy E0pIXgVgnBY-00226-00052086-00052280 alright few folk job must be in E0pIXgVgnBY-00227-00052282-00052422 philosophy as social sciences or E0pIXgVgnBY-00228-00052423-00052638 something nobody else knows grouchy E0pIXgVgnBY-00229-00052639-00052875 he's a Italian Marxist you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00230-00052876-00053073 theorists and he was actually jailed E0pIXgVgnBY-00231-00053074-00053352 under Mussolini's regime right but one E0pIXgVgnBY-00232-00053353-00053520 of the things that he sort of started to E0pIXgVgnBY-00233-00053521-00053673 develop was this notion of hegemony E0pIXgVgnBY-00234-00053674-00053891 right he says hegemony is the ability of E0pIXgVgnBY-00235-00053892-00054039 control not just by force E0pIXgVgnBY-00236-00054040-00054191 although the oppressive will use force E0pIXgVgnBY-00237-00054192-00054399 but the you know control by controlling E0pIXgVgnBY-00238-00054400-00054648 people's worldview by you know how they E0pIXgVgnBY-00239-00054649-00054779 see themselves on how they see other E0pIXgVgnBY-00240-00054780-00054978 people all right because if you can get E0pIXgVgnBY-00241-00054979-00055137 them to do that they'll automatically do E0pIXgVgnBY-00242-00055138-00055287 what it is you want them to do you don't E0pIXgVgnBY-00243-00055288-00055386 have to force them to do anything E0pIXgVgnBY-00244-00055387-00055560 they'll think that that's the right E0pIXgVgnBY-00245-00055561-00055782 thing to do alright that's hegemony and E0pIXgVgnBY-00246-00055783-00055890 that's how that you know sort of E0pIXgVgnBY-00247-00055891-00056184 operates and so I argued if you saw my E0pIXgVgnBY-00248-00056185-00056388 description that the problem with a lot E0pIXgVgnBY-00249-00056389-00056577 of you know sort of instruction is we E0pIXgVgnBY-00250-00056578-00056763 teach like we were taught to which is E0pIXgVgnBY-00251-00056764-00056925 very problematic because a lot of us E0pIXgVgnBY-00252-00056926-00057075 were taught to in ways that was not E0pIXgVgnBY-00253-00057076-00057285 effective we didn't enjoy it and was E0pIXgVgnBY-00254-00057286-00057510 very problematic and yet we start our E0pIXgVgnBY-00255-00057511-00057639 classes and then mimic some of those E0pIXgVgnBY-00256-00057640-00057816 same behaviors one of the most E0pIXgVgnBY-00257-00057816-00057978 liberating things that happened to me E0pIXgVgnBY-00258-00057979-00058166 when I was don't started teaching was I E0pIXgVgnBY-00259-00058167-00058335 had a mentor that was like man be E0pIXgVgnBY-00260-00058336-00058569 yourself all right don't try to be E0pIXgVgnBY-00261-00058570-00058812 anybody else be yourself you know do E0pIXgVgnBY-00262-00058813-00058950 your class is the way that you see fit E0pIXgVgnBY-00263-00058951-00059085 the way that you think you can get the E0pIXgVgnBY-00264-00059086-00059283 best you know learning outcomes alright E0pIXgVgnBY-00265-00059284-00059439 don't follow you know a cookie cutter E0pIXgVgnBY-00266-00059440-00059622 model of what a teacher supposed to be E0pIXgVgnBY-00267-00059623-00060027 like thank and so I've always argued E0pIXgVgnBY-00268-00060028-00060219 that our educational institutions are E0pIXgVgnBY-00269-00060220-00060477 built on you know white norms all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00270-00060478-00060692 always joke you know I was you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00271-00060694-00061079 hired to teach white sociology it's not E0pIXgVgnBY-00272-00061080-00061304 what I teach but that's what I was hired E0pIXgVgnBY-00273-00061305-00061587 to teach right in sociology we have you E0pIXgVgnBY-00274-00061588-00061737 know what's called the big three right E0pIXgVgnBY-00275-00061738-00061962 Marx favorite dirty calm all old dead E0pIXgVgnBY-00276-00061963-00062121 white men which I'm sure y'all got a lot E0pIXgVgnBY-00277-00062122-00062415 in y'all fields right and always ask E0pIXgVgnBY-00278-00062416-00062640 students you know especially with I take E0pIXgVgnBY-00279-00062641-00062780 them down a rabbit hole and start teach E0pIXgVgnBY-00280-00062782-00062900 them about you know different types of E0pIXgVgnBY-00281-00062901-00063104 inequalities and we start to talk about E0pIXgVgnBY-00282-00063105-00063315 different types of theorists and they E0pIXgVgnBY-00283-00063316-00063501 like man you talk a lot about black E0pIXgVgnBY-00284-00063502-00063654 people I'm like have you ever sat in the E0pIXgVgnBY-00285-00063654-00063830 class and wonder why you'll never learn E0pIXgVgnBY-00286-00063832-00064134 about black people I have you ever asked E0pIXgVgnBY-00287-00064135-00064335 has anybody you know any people of color E0pIXgVgnBY-00288-00064336-00064476 contributed anything to history E0pIXgVgnBY-00289-00064477-00064557 philosophy E0pIXgVgnBY-00290-00064558-00064785 psychology sociology and women E0pIXgVgnBY-00291-00064786-00064904 contribute anything to these fields E0pIXgVgnBY-00292-00064905-00065259 right it's like you never asked that E0pIXgVgnBY-00293-00065260-00065307 question E0pIXgVgnBY-00294-00065308-00065469 that's how had jiminee works right E0pIXgVgnBY-00295-00065470-00065637 whiteness is our default setting that's E0pIXgVgnBY-00296-00065638-00065817 the norm so when it comes across that E0pIXgVgnBY-00297-00065818-00066038 way you don't question it just like when E0pIXgVgnBY-00298-00066039-00066176 I showed you all those disparities and E0pIXgVgnBY-00299-00066177-00066369 teaching our partner is here today she E0pIXgVgnBY-00300-00066370-00066591 just completed her dissertation that's E0pIXgVgnBY-00301-00066592-00066782 dr. Hardin over there I'm so proud of E0pIXgVgnBY-00302-00066783-00067371 you right but she looked at you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00303-00067372-00067593 microaggressions and you that black male E0pIXgVgnBY-00304-00067594-00067791 students you know experienced right and E0pIXgVgnBY-00305-00067792-00067929 one of the things she always talked E0pIXgVgnBY-00306-00067930-00068069 about is when we look at these E0pIXgVgnBY-00307-00068070-00068282 disparities we rarely main things like E0pIXgVgnBY-00308-00068283-00068550 racism of sexism right as a you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00309-00068551-00068756 problem in terms of what might be you E0pIXgVgnBY-00310-00068757-00068894 know given us these disparities and E0pIXgVgnBY-00311-00068895-00069101 these different learning outcomes all E0pIXgVgnBY-00312-00069102-00069263 right nobody wants to get that sort of E0pIXgVgnBY-00313-00069264-00069381 the root of a problem but that's how E0pIXgVgnBY-00314-00069382-00069591 hegemony works right we're not trained E0pIXgVgnBY-00315-00069592-00069825 to you know question the system all E0pIXgVgnBY-00316-00069826-00070065 right but we have to question the system E0pIXgVgnBY-00317-00070066-00070244 we have to question the system the other E0pIXgVgnBY-00318-00070245-00070380 thing that I like to do is you know it's E0pIXgVgnBY-00319-00070381-00070536 called the you know hegemony activity if E0pIXgVgnBY-00320-00070537-00070694 y'all bear with me you know a little bit E0pIXgVgnBY-00321-00070695-00070901 close your eyes I make sure nobody steal E0pIXgVgnBY-00322-00070902-00071172 your stuff and be a security guard for E0pIXgVgnBY-00323-00071173-00071346 the next you know 10 20 seconds or so E0pIXgVgnBY-00324-00071347-00071592 right so close your eyes i'ma just you E0pIXgVgnBY-00325-00071593-00071793 know throw out some titles and you're E0pIXgVgnBY-00326-00071794-00071943 gonna get some pictures in your head and E0pIXgVgnBY-00327-00071944-00072171 this is how hegemony actually works E0pIXgVgnBY-00328-00072172-00072306 right you don't have to tell anybody E0pIXgVgnBY-00329-00072307-00072476 what these pictures are but you're gonna E0pIXgVgnBY-00330-00072477-00072644 get some images all right close your E0pIXgVgnBY-00331-00072645-00073313 eyes real quick college professor E0pIXgVgnBY-00332-00073314-00074172 astronaut Ventus gang member welfare E0pIXgVgnBY-00333-00074173-00074756 recipient in me did y'all get some E0pIXgVgnBY-00334-00074757-00075126 images did you see some things all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00335-00075127-00075513 which I get for college professor old E0pIXgVgnBY-00336-00075514-00075782 white ma'am right that's a damn shame me E0pIXgVgnBY-00337-00075783-00076275 too but that's how I had give any words E0pIXgVgnBY-00338-00076276-00076568 all right you didn't picture me even E0pIXgVgnBY-00339-00076569-00076763 though I was standing in lecturing right E0pIXgVgnBY-00340-00076764-00076992 before you close your eyes actually Brad E0pIXgVgnBY-00341-00076993-00077286 my bio all the teaching Awards you were E0pIXgVgnBY-00342-00077287-00077523 like oh that's a professor Hey and E0pIXgVgnBY-00343-00077524-00077763 that's the danger we run into to in our E0pIXgVgnBY-00344-00077764-00077890 classrooms E0pIXgVgnBY-00345-00077891-00078064 I always tell people I got a PhD in E0pIXgVgnBY-00346-00078065-00078322 spite of my professors it's not because E0pIXgVgnBY-00347-00078323-00078538 of my professors right because they E0pIXgVgnBY-00348-00078539-00078727 didn't see me as you know the ideal E0pIXgVgnBY-00349-00078728-00078907 student or you know the person that you E0pIXgVgnBY-00350-00078908-00079045 know was getting those A's in the E0pIXgVgnBY-00351-00079046-00079201 classroom I literally had a professor E0pIXgVgnBY-00352-00079202-00079351 one time call my name out when he was E0pIXgVgnBY-00353-00079352-00079564 handing a test back and was looking for E0pIXgVgnBY-00354-00079565-00079705 me even though I was waving my hand like E0pIXgVgnBY-00355-00079706-00079837 he couldn't associate that the person E0pIXgVgnBY-00356-00079838-00079930 that got the highest grade in the class E0pIXgVgnBY-00357-00079931-00080113 was you know the only black kid in the E0pIXgVgnBY-00358-00080114-00080599 class right and I was college so this is E0pIXgVgnBY-00359-00080600-00080767 you know how hegemony sort of operates E0pIXgVgnBY-00360-00080768-00080914 this is why we have to you know be on E0pIXgVgnBY-00361-00080915-00081124 guard against you know those kind of E0pIXgVgnBY-00362-00081125-00081346 things that's Howard Zinn people are a E0pIXgVgnBY-00363-00081347-00081673 how is in people's history of the United E0pIXgVgnBY-00364-00081674-00081907 States right one of the functions of E0pIXgVgnBY-00365-00081908-00082132 hegemony according to Gramsci is the E0pIXgVgnBY-00366-00082133-00082303 educated function he said this is one of E0pIXgVgnBY-00367-00082304-00082462 the ways that it takes place right if E0pIXgVgnBY-00368-00082463-00082585 the oppressor can control the E0pIXgVgnBY-00369-00082586-00082777 educational system they can control all E0pIXgVgnBY-00370-00082778-00082966 the information that people then that go E0pIXgVgnBY-00371-00082967-00083140 through that system receive so they'll E0pIXgVgnBY-00372-00083141-00083323 automatically see things as normal and E0pIXgVgnBY-00373-00083324-00083458 automatically see other things is E0pIXgVgnBY-00374-00083459-00083725 problematic or bad a good quick example E0pIXgVgnBY-00375-00083726-00083905 would be if you mentioned communism in E0pIXgVgnBY-00376-00083906-00084037 one of your classes even though your E0pIXgVgnBY-00377-00084038-00084186 students probably know nothing about it E0pIXgVgnBY-00378-00084187-00084382 would they have a positive or a negative E0pIXgVgnBY-00379-00084383-00084676 connotation associated with it because E0pIXgVgnBY-00380-00084677-00084928 they raised in a capitalist society all E0pIXgVgnBY-00381-00084929-00085033 right you see how quickly that can work E0pIXgVgnBY-00382-00085034-00085291 whether they examine the study did or E0pIXgVgnBY-00383-00085292-00085600 not they'll already have right a bias E0pIXgVgnBY-00384-00085601-00085783 you know one way or another right E0pIXgVgnBY-00385-00085784-00086059 towards it one of our favorite quotes E0pIXgVgnBY-00386-00086060-00086275 from zen is he says omission is worse E0pIXgVgnBY-00387-00086276-00086485 than lying right because if i omit E0pIXgVgnBY-00388-00086486-00086683 something it's as if it never existed if E0pIXgVgnBY-00389-00086684-00086869 I lie to you at least you have the basis E0pIXgVgnBY-00390-00086870-00087178 to go check it out all right so think E0pIXgVgnBY-00391-00087179-00087337 about all the people who's you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00392-00087338-00087598 histories that have been omitted right E0pIXgVgnBY-00393-00087599-00087724 throughout all disciplines throughout E0pIXgVgnBY-00394-00087725-00087925 our fields and think about if we're E0pIXgVgnBY-00395-00087926-00088123 reproducing that or if we're going E0pIXgVgnBY-00396-00088124-00088267 against the grain and making sure that E0pIXgVgnBY-00397-00088268-00088366 students are getting what they supposed E0pIXgVgnBY-00398-00088367-00088558 to get are they seeing themselves in our E0pIXgVgnBY-00399-00088559-00088804 curriculum all right are they seeing E0pIXgVgnBY-00400-00088805-00088963 themselves as important in our fields E0pIXgVgnBY-00401-00088964-00089089 are they seeing themselves as people E0pIXgVgnBY-00402-00089090-00089296 that can contribute to our fields all E0pIXgVgnBY-00403-00089297-00089461 right because one of the ways that you E0pIXgVgnBY-00404-00089462-00089695 know this hegemony happens is we just E0pIXgVgnBY-00405-00089696-00090109 omit things so this is my my son this is E0pIXgVgnBY-00406-00090110-00090319 a good example of you know how omission E0pIXgVgnBY-00407-00090320-00090520 is you know worse than lying right he E0pIXgVgnBY-00408-00090521-00090864 was smarter than me at like age 4 right E0pIXgVgnBY-00409-00090865-00091069 so one day I picked him up from on a E0pIXgVgnBY-00410-00091070-00091228 story school we always laughing like E0pIXgVgnBY-00411-00091229-00091251 that E0pIXgVgnBY-00412-00091252-00091372 my son had a record when he was like E0pIXgVgnBY-00413-00091373-00091522 four all right one of the things I E0pIXgVgnBY-00414-00091523-00091630 Montessori School if you have an E0pIXgVgnBY-00415-00091631-00091836 incident right they write it up and put E0pIXgVgnBY-00416-00091837-00091990 it in an envelope and then they hand it E0pIXgVgnBY-00417-00091991-00092086 to you when you go pick your kid up E0pIXgVgnBY-00418-00092087-00092301 right so I'll go pick my son up she E0pIXgVgnBY-00419-00092302-00092457 comes running over she was like Mikey E0pIXgVgnBY-00420-00092458-00092578 choke somebody today E0pIXgVgnBY-00421-00092579-00092861 I don't like man what did they do to him E0pIXgVgnBY-00422-00092862-00093051 somebody tell him one side of the story E0pIXgVgnBY-00423-00093052-00093426 but okay all right so I asked him I was E0pIXgVgnBY-00424-00093427-00093565 putting them in the car said Mikey I E0pIXgVgnBY-00425-00093566-00093772 thought she said Aaron I said Mikey did E0pIXgVgnBY-00426-00093773-00093961 you choke earn you know today and he E0pIXgVgnBY-00427-00093962-00094171 looked me dead in my face he was like no E0pIXgVgnBY-00428-00094172-00094431 I wasn't worried I buck with him up we E0pIXgVgnBY-00429-00094432-00094587 get home I opened the letter letter says E0pIXgVgnBY-00430-00094588-00094861 oh right so I'll go back to Mikey I'm E0pIXgVgnBY-00431-00094862-00095041 like Mikey I thought you told me you E0pIXgVgnBY-00432-00095042-00095193 ain't choking oh by today he said I E0pIXgVgnBY-00433-00095194-00095406 didn't say that you asked me if I choked E0pIXgVgnBY-00434-00095407-00095821 Aaron today like what you need with the E0pIXgVgnBY-00435-00095822-00096024 hell I was talking about you knew some E0pIXgVgnBY-00436-00096025-00096474 choking went on but he just omitted that E0pIXgVgnBY-00437-00096475-00096675 it was only any children so he did choke E0pIXgVgnBY-00438-00096676-00097060 somebody it just wasn't earned right so E0pIXgVgnBY-00439-00097061-00097216 that's how you know omission versus line E0pIXgVgnBY-00440-00097217-00097269 works E0pIXgVgnBY-00441-00097270-00097530 Hey so I like to talk a little bit about E0pIXgVgnBY-00442-00097531-00097690 my feelings all right forget talking E0pIXgVgnBY-00443-00097691-00097822 about other people disciplines in E0pIXgVgnBY-00444-00097823-00098019 sociology when we talked about the big E0pIXgVgnBY-00445-00098020-00098169 three earlier I always talk about the E0pIXgVgnBY-00446-00098170-00098475 big four right the boys is you know one E0pIXgVgnBY-00447-00098476-00098607 of the people that gets left off he was E0pIXgVgnBY-00448-00098608-00098842 a pioneer of American sociology that E0pIXgVgnBY-00449-00098843-00099103 then nobody has to read to get a PhD in E0pIXgVgnBY-00450-00099104-00099351 the field of sociology all right how E0pIXgVgnBY-00451-00099352-00099525 much reading do you think I had to do if E0pIXgVgnBY-00452-00099526-00099736 the boys' is work to get a PhD in E0pIXgVgnBY-00453-00099737-00100309 sociology zero pioneer of American E0pIXgVgnBY-00454-00100310-00100735 sociology right zeroed the boys that I E0pIXgVgnBY-00455-00100736-00100954 have to read you know to get my degree E0pIXgVgnBY-00456-00100955-00101110 alright this is how you know sort of E0pIXgVgnBY-00457-00101111-00101313 brilliant he was first off you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00458-00101314-00101473 after he graduated he graduated from E0pIXgVgnBY-00459-00101474-00101604 historically black college and applied E0pIXgVgnBY-00460-00101605-00101886 to Harvard Harvard said because you E0pIXgVgnBY-00461-00101887-00102000 graduated from historically black E0pIXgVgnBY-00462-00102001-00102223 college we don't believe your degree is E0pIXgVgnBY-00463-00102224-00102363 sufficient so if you want to come here E0pIXgVgnBY-00464-00102364-00102465 you have to take two more years of E0pIXgVgnBY-00465-00102466-00102740 undergrad right get this white education E0pIXgVgnBY-00466-00102741-00103065 the boys like alright cool did that end E0pIXgVgnBY-00467-00103066-00103302 up getting his master's degree then end E0pIXgVgnBY-00468-00103303-00103434 up getting into a you know doctoral E0pIXgVgnBY-00469-00103435-00103552 program at Harvard he was the first E0pIXgVgnBY-00470-00103553-00103689 person of African descent to get a PhD E0pIXgVgnBY-00471-00103690-00103758 from Harvard E0pIXgVgnBY-00472-00103759-00104115 are we talking late 1800s you're hard E0pIXgVgnBY-00473-00104116-00104361 that was I'm always you know baffled by E0pIXgVgnBY-00474-00104363-00104602 what people ain't impressed by then E0pIXgVgnBY-00475-00104603-00104776 that's a black man the late 18-hundreds E0pIXgVgnBY-00476-00104777-00104932 got a PhD from Harvard it's hard to get E0pIXgVgnBY-00477-00104933-00105268 a PhD from Harvard now he was a black E0pIXgVgnBY-00478-00105269-00105451 dude too late 18-hundreds right got a E0pIXgVgnBY-00479-00105452-00105636 PhD from Harvard he was one of the first E0pIXgVgnBY-00480-00105638-00105799 to use this method called triangulation E0pIXgVgnBY-00481-00105800-00105994 right in terms of looking at data when E0pIXgVgnBY-00482-00105995-00106104 he you know wrote his book the E0pIXgVgnBY-00483-00106105-00106351 Philadelphia Negro all right he was a E0pIXgVgnBY-00484-00106352-00106648 towering beast in fact it's a new book E0pIXgVgnBY-00485-00106649-00106807 out called a Scylla denied and they E0pIXgVgnBY-00486-00106808-00106993 argue that some of the boys his work was E0pIXgVgnBY-00487-00106994-00107194 probably plagiarized by you know what we E0pIXgVgnBY-00488-00107195-00107356 now know is the Chicago School where the E0pIXgVgnBY-00489-00107357-00107508 first Department of Sociology was in the E0pIXgVgnBY-00490-00107509-00107703 United States all right that's how E0pIXgVgnBY-00491-00107704-00107899 brilliant you know this you know guy was E0pIXgVgnBY-00492-00107900-00108153 but you know largely omitted you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00493-00108154-00108402 from the field of sociology and as Joyce E0pIXgVgnBY-00494-00108403-00108615 Ladner said the sociology like history E0pIXgVgnBY-00495-00108616-00108753 by the way she brought this really good E0pIXgVgnBY-00496-00108754-00108891 book called death of white sociology E0pIXgVgnBY-00497-00108892-00109072 right Sousa sociologists as well also E0pIXgVgnBY-00498-00109073-00109209 involved in the civil rights movement E0pIXgVgnBY-00499-00109210-00109474 but sociology like history economics and E0pIXgVgnBY-00500-00109475-00109696 psychology existed in domain where color E0pIXgVgnBY-00501-00109697-00109929 ethnicity and social class are primary E0pIXgVgnBY-00502-00109930-00110133 importance and as long as this holds E0pIXgVgnBY-00503-00110134-00110328 true it's impossible for sociology to E0pIXgVgnBY-00504-00110329-00110518 claim that it maintains value neutrality E0pIXgVgnBY-00505-00110519-00110758 and this approach all right now I'm E0pIXgVgnBY-00506-00110758-00111043 guessing a lot of our fields you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00507-00111044-00111382 suffer from this problem so this is one E0pIXgVgnBY-00508-00111383-00111538 of my sort of favorite you know comics E0pIXgVgnBY-00509-00111539-00111909 right because it really shows you how E0pIXgVgnBY-00510-00111910-00112018 our students are sorta you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00511-00112019-00112164 marginalize and how they can be you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00512-00112165-00112333 marginalize in our you know classes E0pIXgVgnBY-00513-00112333-00112456 because the Academy don't allow them to E0pIXgVgnBY-00514-00112457-00112627 tell their stories and if you can't see E0pIXgVgnBY-00515-00112628-00112831 you know the captioner says I expect all E0pIXgVgnBY-00516-00112832-00113202 of you I expect you all to be E0pIXgVgnBY-00517-00113203-00113484 independent innovative critical thinkers E0pIXgVgnBY-00518-00113485-00113735 who would do exactly as I say E0pIXgVgnBY-00519-00113736-00113983 alright that's sort of where I felt E0pIXgVgnBY-00520-00113983-00114141 water you know my colleagues be like E0pIXgVgnBY-00521-00114142-00114336 yeah we want you to be yourself I'm E0pIXgVgnBY-00522-00114338-00114481 living grad school I wrote a people on E0pIXgVgnBY-00523-00114482-00114718 you know hip-hop and Marxism and when I E0pIXgVgnBY-00524-00114719-00114858 was talking to my professor fight he was E0pIXgVgnBY-00525-00114859-00114988 like man you ain't gonna doing any way E0pIXgVgnBY-00526-00114989-00115120 to do it end up getting the a on the E0pIXgVgnBY-00527-00115121-00115282 paper and he end up asking me for the E0pIXgVgnBY-00528-00115283-00115474 people after I graduated because he was E0pIXgVgnBY-00529-00115475-00115614 writing something more pop culture in E0pIXgVgnBY-00530-00115615-00115849 Marxism all right I was like yeah E0pIXgVgnBY-00531-00115850-00116040 mansion you know trusting me a little E0pIXgVgnBY-00532-00116041-00116224 bit knew what the hell I was doing E0pIXgVgnBY-00533-00116225-00116427 alright so much so did you needed my E0pIXgVgnBY-00534-00116428-00116977 work hey so with that this is a article E0pIXgVgnBY-00535-00116978-00117127 that me and a buddy of mine he's at the E0pIXgVgnBY-00536-00117128-00117264 University of Cincinnati in a social E0pIXgVgnBY-00537-00117265-00117457 apartment you know published right ask E0pIXgVgnBY-00538-00117458-00117591 our relationships receive learning E0pIXgVgnBY-00539-00117592-00117733 reflections on being and teaching you E0pIXgVgnBY-00540-00117733-00117931 know students of color all right so as E0pIXgVgnBY-00541-00117932-00117982 Innes E0pIXgVgnBY-00542-00117983-00118321 version called reflections on academic E0pIXgVgnBY-00543-00118322-00118551 lives and it's in Chapter six which is E0pIXgVgnBY-00544-00118552-00118785 called the art of teaching really is an E0pIXgVgnBY-00545-00118786-00118989 art alright it really is it really is E0pIXgVgnBY-00546-00118990-00119131 this you know sort of performance piece E0pIXgVgnBY-00547-00119132-00119340 but these are you know sort of five E0pIXgVgnBY-00548-00119341-00119608 things that you know low stakes E0pIXgVgnBY-00549-00119608-00119932 you know tips that we offered at the end E0pIXgVgnBY-00550-00119933-00120082 of all you know article you know given E0pIXgVgnBY-00551-00120083-00120247 our experiences as you know being black E0pIXgVgnBY-00552-00120248-00120496 males and you know higher rate and one E0pIXgVgnBY-00553-00120497-00120633 of the first things we talked about is E0pIXgVgnBY-00554-00120634-00120813 you know being creative in non E0pIXgVgnBY-00555-00120814-00121065 instructional time and also you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00556-00121066-00121260 create space for the non course related E0pIXgVgnBY-00557-00121261-00121479 you know sort of discussions right you E0pIXgVgnBY-00558-00121480-00121602 know how are you making room for your E0pIXgVgnBY-00559-00121603-00121851 students to engage you and then you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00560-00121852-00122064 you engage them back right how are you E0pIXgVgnBY-00561-00122065-00122245 doing it and so we suggested you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00562-00122246-00122422 things like showing up the class early E0pIXgVgnBY-00563-00122423-00122698 alright as the students had a you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00564-00122699-00122869 doing one of the things that you know he E0pIXgVgnBY-00565-00122870-00123009 mentioned to me he was like man I love E0pIXgVgnBY-00566-00123010-00123165 the way that you he called it holding E0pIXgVgnBY-00567-00123166-00123216 court E0pIXgVgnBY-00568-00123217-00123414 alright five ten minutes before you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00569-00123415-00123658 class start I'm just you know shooting E0pIXgVgnBY-00570-00123658-00123834 the breeze with him how was your weekend E0pIXgVgnBY-00571-00123835-00124104 what you do what's going on all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00572-00124105-00124275 anything happened how people feeling E0pIXgVgnBY-00573-00124276-00124570 good bad all right what's going on and E0pIXgVgnBY-00574-00124571-00124725 you know students willing you know lock E0pIXgVgnBY-00575-00124726-00124902 in and engage which is you know what we E0pIXgVgnBY-00576-00124903-00125233 want and if you're really skillful a E0pIXgVgnBY-00577-00125233-00125385 student will say something that can E0pIXgVgnBY-00578-00125386-00125746 segue you into your lecture all right so E0pIXgVgnBY-00579-00125747-00125908 you know things like oh and then you E0pIXgVgnBY-00580-00125908-00126075 Basin it off and Ed lived experiences E0pIXgVgnBY-00581-00126076-00126228 and they're really locked in and engaged E0pIXgVgnBY-00582-00126229-00126426 all right so that's one technique E0pIXgVgnBY-00583-00126427-00126649 another one is to create student E0pIXgVgnBY-00584-00126650-00126919 centered you know assignments right what E0pIXgVgnBY-00585-00126920-00127053 do you assignments you know asking them E0pIXgVgnBY-00586-00127054-00127227 students all right yeah ask them about E0pIXgVgnBY-00587-00127228-00127369 themselves are you guys going to include E0pIXgVgnBY-00588-00127370-00127519 some of their personal experiences or E0pIXgVgnBY-00589-00127520-00127791 you know do you have you know what you E0pIXgVgnBY-00590-00127792-00127977 have in mind in terms of you know a good E0pIXgVgnBY-00591-00127978-00128221 assignment all right or will they be E0pIXgVgnBY-00592-00128222-00128494 allowed to do hip-hop Marxism all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00593-00128495-00128775 are you open to that the other one is E0pIXgVgnBY-00594-00128776-00128896 you know allow yourself to be vulnerable E0pIXgVgnBY-00595-00128897-00129063 this is a you know huge way that you E0pIXgVgnBY-00596-00129064-00129228 know will come back to you a little bit E0pIXgVgnBY-00597-00129229-00129469 because I find it you know strangely odd E0pIXgVgnBY-00598-00129470-00129646 that we asked students to do a lot of E0pIXgVgnBY-00599-00129647-00129863 things that we're not willing to model E0pIXgVgnBY-00600-00129864-00130140 alright I asked this all the time who's E0pIXgVgnBY-00601-00130141-00130509 your song so teaching uh I say y'all got E0pIXgVgnBY-00602-00130510-00131026 a name we five weeks in right uh you E0pIXgVgnBY-00603-00131027-00131196 know the glasses E0pIXgVgnBY-00604-00131197-00131433 so he professors a lot professor glasses E0pIXgVgnBY-00605-00131434-00131907 Damon hey five weeks in alright damn and E0pIXgVgnBY-00606-00131908-00132033 then I saw a them so what do you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00607-00132034-00132168 about them they're like what are you E0pIXgVgnBY-00608-00132169-00132326 talking about like do they have kids E0pIXgVgnBY-00609-00132327-00132549 where did they go to school did they E0pIXgVgnBY-00610-00132550-00132752 struggle you know in school did E0pIXgVgnBY-00611-00132753-00132899 what if somebody experiences with E0pIXgVgnBY-00612-00132900-00133388 education like oh no they just get E0pIXgVgnBY-00613-00133389-00133601 straight to the lecture lecture and then E0pIXgVgnBY-00614-00133602-00133935 they leave alright I'm like damn alright E0pIXgVgnBY-00615-00133936-00134169 but you know we'll have assignments when E0pIXgVgnBY-00616-00134170-00134295 we ask them to reveal stuff to us E0pIXgVgnBY-00617-00134296-00134532 alright but if we haven't done it for E0pIXgVgnBY-00618-00134533-00134709 them why don't we expect them to you E0pIXgVgnBY-00619-00134710-00134922 know do it for us right so you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00620-00134923-00135062 allow yourself to be vulnerable it's not E0pIXgVgnBY-00621-00135063-00135266 you know easy but you know allow E0pIXgVgnBY-00622-00135267-00135491 yourself to do it and then the last one E0pIXgVgnBY-00623-00135492-00135696 is spend time as students enter you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00624-00135697-00136008 campus events right as much as you can E0pIXgVgnBY-00625-00136009-00136134 if you have student athletes in your E0pIXgVgnBY-00626-00136135-00136262 class I like to go to mine you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00627-00136263-00136470 students you know athletic events I like E0pIXgVgnBY-00628-00136471-00136631 to hang out you know the student union E0pIXgVgnBY-00629-00136632-00136814 sometimes I just sit over there you E0pIXgVgnBY-00630-00136815-00136952 don't have much so you know I can be E0pIXgVgnBY-00631-00136953-00137102 amongst them and you'll see them in some E0pIXgVgnBY-00632-00137103-00137315 of their own spaces alright and then I E0pIXgVgnBY-00633-00137316-00137438 like to use it the best with them in E0pIXgVgnBY-00634-00137439-00137564 class especially if they don't like to E0pIXgVgnBY-00635-00137565-00137738 talk I'm like man I just seen you as E0pIXgVgnBY-00636-00137739-00138233 talking alright I know you can talk I E0pIXgVgnBY-00637-00138234-00138534 saw it right matter of fact you didn't E0pIXgVgnBY-00638-00138535-00138657 shut up the whole time I was eating E0pIXgVgnBY-00639-00138658-00139016 lunch alright so say some all right a E0pIXgVgnBY-00640-00139017-00139149 you know they start laughing they don't E0pIXgVgnBY-00641-00139150-00139328 break the ice and they don't usually you E0pIXgVgnBY-00642-00139329-00139541 know participate alright so some of E0pIXgVgnBY-00643-00139542-00139722 these can be you know translated to the E0pIXgVgnBY-00644-00139723-00139944 wonderful world of online teaching right E0pIXgVgnBY-00645-00139945-00140099 and I'll put that up this like ask me E0pIXgVgnBY-00646-00140100-00140349 because I was a long time you know hold E0pIXgVgnBY-00647-00140350-00140619 out because I couldn't figure out first E0pIXgVgnBY-00648-00140620-00140784 of all but online teaching look like E0pIXgVgnBY-00649-00140785-00141024 right and secondly how I could engage E0pIXgVgnBY-00650-00141025-00141200 students you know in an online E0pIXgVgnBY-00651-00141201-00141393 environment the way that I do you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00652-00141394-00141621 face to face so that was something I you E0pIXgVgnBY-00653-00141622-00141849 know really struggle with and I actually E0pIXgVgnBY-00654-00141850-00142395 started teaching online out of spite all E0pIXgVgnBY-00655-00142396-00142637 right I'll just say was somebody that E0pIXgVgnBY-00656-00142638-00142979 was it you know pulled in a load you E0pIXgVgnBY-00657-00142980-00143087 know now the department I was like nah E0pIXgVgnBY-00658-00143088-00143351 man even in places right that's you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00659-00143352-00143568 sort of how it started out but once I E0pIXgVgnBY-00660-00143569-00143760 got into online environment I was like E0pIXgVgnBY-00661-00143761-00143931 oh some of the things that you know we E0pIXgVgnBY-00662-00143932-00144128 talk about for in class actually applied E0pIXgVgnBY-00663-00144129-00144386 to you know online you know teaching E0pIXgVgnBY-00664-00144387-00144573 right so one E0pIXgVgnBY-00665-00144574-00144846 this idea of creating student-centered E0pIXgVgnBY-00666-00144847-00145344 assignments right the notion that you E0pIXgVgnBY-00667-00145345-00145491 can create this you know assignment E0pIXgVgnBY-00668-00145492-00145647 that's you know very you know Student E0pIXgVgnBY-00669-00145648-00145839 Center you know online because one of E0pIXgVgnBY-00670-00145840-00145959 the things that happens in online E0pIXgVgnBY-00671-00145960-00146115 environment is students are you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00672-00146116-00146412 really honest which I appreciate it wait E0pIXgVgnBY-00673-00146413-00146631 more so than you know in class so I E0pIXgVgnBY-00674-00146632-00146850 didn't put it up here but at the end of E0pIXgVgnBY-00675-00146851-00147012 the introduction of sociology class E0pIXgVgnBY-00676-00147013-00147234 there is race class and gender so all E0pIXgVgnBY-00677-00147235-00147513 the you know hot topics all right so E0pIXgVgnBY-00678-00147514-00147672 they built each you know concepts E0pIXgVgnBY-00679-00147673-00147831 theories all the way up to then and then E0pIXgVgnBY-00680-00147832-00147981 the way the textbook goals is it drops E0pIXgVgnBY-00681-00147982-00148209 race class and gender on by the end so E0pIXgVgnBY-00682-00148210-00148541 last one is race always so students is E0pIXgVgnBY-00683-00148542-00148731 last you know so I can push it all off E0pIXgVgnBY-00684-00148732-00149616 and then y'all gone it's partly true but E0pIXgVgnBY-00685-00149617-00149859 in all my environment you know they have E0pIXgVgnBY-00686-00149860-00150041 some some really difficult you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00687-00150042-00150237 readings you know around reason I tried E0pIXgVgnBY-00688-00150238-00150483 as much as possible like videos and TED E0pIXgVgnBY-00689-00150484-00150864 talks all that kind of stuff but one of E0pIXgVgnBY-00690-00150865-00151065 the comments that I got that I could E0pIXgVgnBY-00691-00151066-00151212 never get students to say in class E0pIXgVgnBY-00692-00151213-00151368 especially international students E0pIXgVgnBY-00693-00151369-00151518 because I want them to you know sort of E0pIXgVgnBY-00694-00151519-00151749 think about their socialization right E0pIXgVgnBY-00695-00151750-00151947 especially in terms of how they feel E0pIXgVgnBY-00696-00151948-00152103 about you know black men giving it they E0pIXgVgnBY-00697-00152104-00152229 probably never met one and said he got E0pIXgVgnBY-00698-00152230-00152565 you know to Highline about to you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00699-00152566-00152802 Washington right and so students in E0pIXgVgnBY-00700-00152803-00152970 online environment after reading the E0pIXgVgnBY-00701-00152971-00153282 article she admitted she was like look I E0pIXgVgnBY-00702-00153283-00153477 was told to stay away from you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00703-00153478-00153690 black men and they had my picture they E0pIXgVgnBY-00704-00153691-00154026 know all my black male exactly I was E0pIXgVgnBY-00705-00154027-00154245 told to you know avoid you know black E0pIXgVgnBY-00706-00154246-00154398 men in particular and you know black E0pIXgVgnBY-00707-00154399-00154563 people in general you know when I came E0pIXgVgnBY-00708-00154564-00154794 to the United States right because they E0pIXgVgnBY-00709-00154795-00155066 were no criminals problematic so on and E0pIXgVgnBY-00710-00155067-00155307 so forth I'm reading this I'm like wow E0pIXgVgnBY-00711-00155308-00155661 and then she followed up with but I have E0pIXgVgnBY-00712-00155662-00155844 some you know classmates that are black E0pIXgVgnBY-00713-00155845-00156129 and I realize that that wasn't the case E0pIXgVgnBY-00714-00156130-00156381 right that's not true and I'm very E0pIXgVgnBY-00715-00156382-00156545 fortunate to have had that opportunity E0pIXgVgnBY-00716-00156546-00156840 in class I would have never gotten that E0pIXgVgnBY-00717-00156841-00157206 level of you know honesty all right cuz E0pIXgVgnBY-00718-00157207-00157572 I've asked me what you've heard tell me E0pIXgVgnBY-00719-00157573-00157715 what your images come from most times E0pIXgVgnBY-00720-00157716-00157968 media you know media does a terrible E0pIXgVgnBY-00721-00157969-00158174 representin right people that's not part E0pIXgVgnBY-00722-00158175-00158409 of Domini culture right and so a lot of E0pIXgVgnBY-00723-00158410-00158586 that you know as you know problematic E0pIXgVgnBY-00724-00158587-00158760 most the time but the one that I put up E0pIXgVgnBY-00725-00158761-00158931 there was you know from a student that E0pIXgVgnBY-00726-00158932-00159273 was you know sort of organizing around E0pIXgVgnBY-00727-00159274-00159437 this assignment so this was a student of E0pIXgVgnBY-00728-00159438-00159768 color and you know he was talking about E0pIXgVgnBY-00729-00159769-00159948 his experiences after rate reading and E0pIXgVgnBY-00730-00159949-00160098 Benitez Silva's work on you know racial E0pIXgVgnBY-00731-00160099-00160289 grammar all right you say you know for E0pIXgVgnBY-00732-00160290-00161019 instance some people believe that this E0pIXgVgnBY-00733-00161020-00161259 idea is hidden racism because when we E0pIXgVgnBY-00734-00161260-00162029 say unsuccessful for those then he E0pIXgVgnBY-00735-00162030-00162222 really you know linked into this notion E0pIXgVgnBY-00736-00162223-00162512 of you know there's also has multiple E0pIXgVgnBY-00737-00162513-00162699 problems because it prevents teachers E0pIXgVgnBY-00738-00162700-00162798 and other communities from putting E0pIXgVgnBY-00739-00162799-00162972 effort and to educate minority so E0pIXgVgnBY-00740-00162973-00163199 frequently you know classified by races E0pIXgVgnBY-00741-00163200-00163427 as less intelligent I was like oh this E0pIXgVgnBY-00742-00163428-00163661 dude is going in like you know he's E0pIXgVgnBY-00743-00163662-00163874 really you know getting it and this is a E0pIXgVgnBY-00744-00163875-00164118 portion of an assignment weird that very E0pIXgVgnBY-00745-00164119-00164366 last part of the assignment is you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00746-00164367-00164532 can you connect something you read to a E0pIXgVgnBY-00747-00164533-00164808 personal experience right so we talked E0pIXgVgnBY-00748-00164809-00164927 about you know like student-centered E0pIXgVgnBY-00749-00164928-00165104 assignments alright how can you connect E0pIXgVgnBY-00750-00165105-00165246 this to a personal experience that E0pIXgVgnBY-00751-00165247-00165282 you've had E0pIXgVgnBY-00752-00165283-00165474 so these students are going from the E0pIXgVgnBY-00753-00165475-00165689 abstract to theoretical to something you E0pIXgVgnBY-00754-00165690-00165846 know really tangible all right and E0pIXgVgnBY-00755-00165847-00165948 that's what I you don't want them to do E0pIXgVgnBY-00756-00165949-00166112 with sociology most of sociology is E0pIXgVgnBY-00757-00166113-00166320 applied all right so I'm locking into E0pIXgVgnBY-00758-00166321-00166454 you know this notion of trying to tap E0pIXgVgnBY-00759-00166455-00166686 into that idea that you know they need E0pIXgVgnBY-00760-00166687-00166814 to you know really look at their E0pIXgVgnBY-00761-00166815-00166991 personal experiences and that they can E0pIXgVgnBY-00762-00166992-00167196 be the you know sort of experts in terms E0pIXgVgnBY-00763-00167197-00167508 of you know being vulnerable right there E0pIXgVgnBY-00764-00167509-00167619 are a couple things you know you can E0pIXgVgnBY-00765-00167620-00167726 think about what do you tell students E0pIXgVgnBY-00766-00167727-00167954 about yourself what do they know about E0pIXgVgnBY-00767-00167955-00168287 your interests right and do you give E0pIXgVgnBY-00768-00168288-00168404 them an opportunity to tell you about E0pIXgVgnBY-00769-00168405-00168476 themselves E0pIXgVgnBY-00770-00168477-00168689 alright how are you doing that and sort E0pIXgVgnBY-00771-00168690-00168906 of an online you know environment E0pIXgVgnBY-00772-00168907-00169238 alright are you doing that and so one of E0pIXgVgnBY-00773-00169239-00169449 the things that I found out was the more E0pIXgVgnBY-00774-00169450-00169686 that I shared you know with them about E0pIXgVgnBY-00775-00169687-00169901 me the more that I would get back you E0pIXgVgnBY-00776-00169902-00170054 know in return and I was starting to get E0pIXgVgnBY-00777-00170055-00170223 that engagement piece that I was worried E0pIXgVgnBY-00778-00170224-00170397 about losing you know in an online E0pIXgVgnBY-00779-00170398-00170651 environment so I'm going through midlife E0pIXgVgnBY-00780-00170652-00171105 crises it's all good E0pIXgVgnBY-00781-00171106-00171325 my body can't do the things that he used E0pIXgVgnBY-00782-00171326-00171544 to do I'm gonna athlete my whole life E0pIXgVgnBY-00783-00171545-00171685 it's starting to break down on me a E0pIXgVgnBY-00784-00171686-00171808 little bit all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00785-00171809-00172093 I don't recover right as well as I used E0pIXgVgnBY-00786-00172094-00172327 to so I started running these you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00787-00172328-00172507 obstacle course races like Spartan and E0pIXgVgnBY-00788-00172508-00172891 tough mudders all right I need to test E0pIXgVgnBY-00789-00172892-00173005 myself and even know that I can still E0pIXgVgnBY-00790-00173006-00173260 move and climb stuff and you know run I E0pIXgVgnBY-00791-00173261-00173383 could do it all with a little bit of E0pIXgVgnBY-00792-00173384-00173662 moderation I have my knees let me write E0pIXgVgnBY-00793-00173663-00173896 so what I started doing was I would tell E0pIXgVgnBY-00794-00173897-00174184 them about the races all right look I E0pIXgVgnBY-00795-00174185-00174421 got these races coming up and they E0pIXgVgnBY-00796-00174422-00174547 started you know sending me stuff like E0pIXgVgnBY-00797-00174548-00174772 well good luck let me know what the E0pIXgVgnBY-00798-00174773-00174853 results are E0pIXgVgnBY-00799-00174854-00175072 hope the old days make it nine if I say E0pIXgVgnBY-00800-00175073-00175612 that nobody said that me all this you E0pIXgVgnBY-00801-00175613-00175846 know cool stuff right and so after I E0pIXgVgnBY-00802-00175847-00175969 will run the races I will start posting E0pIXgVgnBY-00803-00175970-00176239 my pictures all right he's like oh man E0pIXgVgnBY-00804-00176240-00176386 they really love the one with you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00805-00176387-00176734 me my face in the mud that sucks E0pIXgVgnBY-00806-00176735-00177133 I hate being dirty I can't stand it all E0pIXgVgnBY-00807-00177134-00177271 right and then your mind start playing E0pIXgVgnBY-00808-00177272-00177373 tricks on you when you're going through E0pIXgVgnBY-00809-00177374-00177547 the mud you like man and hundreds people E0pIXgVgnBY-00810-00177548-00178054 that came through the hell did they do E0pIXgVgnBY-00811-00178055-00178297 in this mud maybe splashing all your E0pIXgVgnBY-00812-00178298-00179419 face look like that so I posted these E0pIXgVgnBY-00813-00179420-00179569 they started sending me pictures of E0pIXgVgnBY-00814-00179570-00179746 things that you know they do so I had a E0pIXgVgnBY-00815-00179747-00179926 power lift in one of my classes he sent E0pIXgVgnBY-00816-00179927-00180196 me a video of him lifting all the E0pIXgVgnBY-00817-00180197-00180412 amounts of weight all right if you ever E0pIXgVgnBY-00818-00180413-00180571 seen powerlifting competitions I'm E0pIXgVgnBY-00819-00180572-00180709 talking you know like blood shooting out E0pIXgVgnBY-00820-00180710-00181117 of his nose and look are you okay I had E0pIXgVgnBY-00821-00181118-00181294 them you know email them back like yeah E0pIXgVgnBY-00822-00181295-00181429 man it's just depression it builds up E0pIXgVgnBY-00823-00181430-00181627 you know that's just what happens when E0pIXgVgnBY-00824-00181628-00181771 you power lifts like maybe you shouldn't E0pIXgVgnBY-00825-00181772-00182119 probably left there let's shoot now she E0pIXgVgnBY-00826-00182120-00182284 knows from activity don't seem normal to E0pIXgVgnBY-00827-00182285-00182617 me then you know people would send me E0pIXgVgnBY-00828-00182618-00182818 stuff about their races and you know all E0pIXgVgnBY-00829-00182819-00182959 kinds of cool things started happening E0pIXgVgnBY-00830-00182960-00183199 in this you know online environment that E0pIXgVgnBY-00831-00183200-00183307 I thought was you know sort of real E0pIXgVgnBY-00832-00183308-00183469 sterile and that I couldn't you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00833-00183470-00183826 engage students in dan and so you know I E0pIXgVgnBY-00834-00183827-00184027 still like being in class but I'm E0pIXgVgnBY-00835-00184028-00184204 learning to love the you know online E0pIXgVgnBY-00836-00184205-00184304 environment E0pIXgVgnBY-00837-00184305-00184541 a lot more because I can't engage in you E0pIXgVgnBY-00838-00184542-00184656 know different ways that I couldn't E0pIXgVgnBY-00839-00184657-00184877 engage you know and you know regular E0pIXgVgnBY-00840-00184878-00185161 classes all right does that make sense E0pIXgVgnBY-00841-00185162-00185556 no all right um the Kathleen it how much E0pIXgVgnBY-00842-00185557-00186773 time do I have E0pIXgVgnBY-00843-00186774-00187187 all right cool so let's okay tell the E0pIXgVgnBY-00844-00187188-00187741 professor that oh we got time so E0pIXgVgnBY-00845-00187742-00188106 actually your tables right think about E0pIXgVgnBY-00846-00188107-00188343 ways that you could apply you know some E0pIXgVgnBY-00847-00188344-00188595 of these you know five you know tips in E0pIXgVgnBY-00848-00188596-00188735 an online environment E0pIXgVgnBY-00849-00188736-00189021 all right partly for my own selfishness E0pIXgVgnBY-00850-00189022-00189246 I would love to know you know things E0pIXgVgnBY-00851-00189247-00189461 that I could take away you know and use E0pIXgVgnBY-00852-00189462-00189635 it my online environment right so it's E0pIXgVgnBY-00853-00189636-00189771 great to be amongst all the other you E0pIXgVgnBY-00854-00189772-00189993 know experts all right so discuss at E0pIXgVgnBY-00855-00189994-00190226 your table you know ways that you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00856-00190227-00190383 you might be reply somebody's you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00857-00190384-00190557 five tips and if you have you know other E0pIXgVgnBY-00858-00190558-00190869 ones you know add to the list all right E0pIXgVgnBY-00859-00190870-00191213 we do it but five minutes all right five E0pIXgVgnBY-00860-00191214-00192457 minutes E0pIXgVgnBY-00861-00192458-00193068 so great discussions those of you guys E0pIXgVgnBY-00862-00193069-00193256 doing workshops man I set y'all up dude E0pIXgVgnBY-00863-00193257-00193628 I got them all engaged they talking so E0pIXgVgnBY-00864-00193629-00193748 now y'all just got to run with it from E0pIXgVgnBY-00865-00193749-00194003 here all right all right Kathleen has a E0pIXgVgnBY-00866-00194004-00194251 mic if anybody wants to share if any E0pIXgVgnBY-00867-00194252-00194528 good ideas came about what did y'all E0pIXgVgnBY-00868-00194529-00195143 talk about I know I laugh always tell E0pIXgVgnBY-00869-00195144-00195332 students I'm like man teachers are the E0pIXgVgnBY-00871-00198537-00201280 right that's right absolutely thank you E0pIXgVgnBY-00872-00201281-00203046 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00873-00203047-00203672 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00874-00203673-00206060 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00875-00206061-00207466 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00876-00207467-00208035 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00877-00208036-00210511 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00878-00210512-00211039 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00879-00211040-00212928 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00880-00212929-00214344 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00881-00214344-00215344 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00882-00215346-00216451 great thanks ethnic much E0pIXgVgnBY-00883-00216452-00217762 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00884-00217763-00218608 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00885-00218609-00219648 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00886-00219650-00220755 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00887-00220756-00221367 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00888-00221369-00221609 absolutely absolutely E0pIXgVgnBY-00889-00221610-00221816 yeah yeah and always tell people to you E0pIXgVgnBY-00890-00221817-00222046 know to use that with a sense of E0pIXgVgnBY-00891-00222048-00222275 intelligence you want to post when you E0pIXgVgnBY-00892-00222276-00222530 got blasted you know what I mean when E0pIXgVgnBY-00893-00222531-00222689 you was plaster that you know somebody's E0pIXgVgnBY-00894-00222690-00222827 windows you know something like that E0pIXgVgnBY-00895-00222828-00223136 yeah you know use your common sense in E0pIXgVgnBY-00896-00223137-00223286 your comfort level you know like you E0pIXgVgnBY-00897-00223287-00223421 know what's comfortable for you but I E0pIXgVgnBY-00898-00223421-00223717 will say think about pushing that you E0pIXgVgnBY-00899-00223719-00223838 know a little bit you know are you E0pIXgVgnBY-00900-00223839-00223952 uncomfortable because it could get you E0pIXgVgnBY-00901-00223953-00224054 in trouble or are you uncomfortable E0pIXgVgnBY-00902-00224055-00224210 because you don't like sharing you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00903-00224211-00224459 yourself with your students you know I E0pIXgVgnBY-00904-00224460-00224696 think there's a distinction all right so E0pIXgVgnBY-00905-00224696-00224852 you know which which way is the E0pIXgVgnBY-00906-00224853-00224987 discomfort coming from am I worried E0pIXgVgnBY-00907-00224988-00225179 about you know like violating you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00908-00225180-00225646 campus policies or you know was it just E0pIXgVgnBY-00909-00225648-00225935 oh I think I used to you know this sort E0pIXgVgnBY-00910-00225936-00226085 of sage on the stage model where I'm E0pIXgVgnBY-00911-00226086-00226271 they give them our knowledge right it E0pIXgVgnBY-00912-00226271-00226508 just flows one way all right so yeah E0pIXgVgnBY-00913-00226509-00226775 always you know make sure you protect E0pIXgVgnBY-00914-00226776-00227017 yourself in you know thinking before you E0pIXgVgnBY-00915-00227019-00227180 you know post in which you post in what E0pIXgVgnBY-00916-00227181-00227366 you willing to share but also you know E0pIXgVgnBY-00917-00227367-00227540 push yourself a little bit too if it's E0pIXgVgnBY-00918-00227541-00227735 just discomfort for you know the sake of E0pIXgVgnBY-00919-00227736-00227882 being discomfort on you share these E0pIXgVgnBY-00920-00227883-00228062 things then I would say you know at E0pIXgVgnBY-00921-00228063-00228373 least try it right a little bit yeah I E0pIXgVgnBY-00922-00228375-00228656 want anybody losing their jobs MSI Yuki E0pIXgVgnBY-00923-00228657-00229760 no I'm unemployed now hey I want that E0pIXgVgnBY-00924-00229761-00232179 and that's because it's you know just E0pIXgVgnBY-00925-00232180-00235117 images up to interpretation to always E0pIXgVgnBY-00926-00235117-00236921 told my mages in the crowd E0pIXgVgnBY-00927-00236923-00239055 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00928-00239056-00239661 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-00929-00239662-00240321 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so you know the E0pIXgVgnBY-00930-00240323-00240484 way I've been able to connect especially E0pIXgVgnBY-00931-00240485-00240682 with you know my military students is I E0pIXgVgnBY-00932-00240683-00240823 tell them you know sort of my story E0pIXgVgnBY-00933-00240823-00241009 about how I was able to you know sort of E0pIXgVgnBY-00934-00241010-00241189 go to college and the reason I was able E0pIXgVgnBY-00935-00241190-00241351 to go to college was because I grew up E0pIXgVgnBY-00936-00241352-00241519 in you know West Baltimore single-parent E0pIXgVgnBY-00937-00241519-00241729 mom she had three boys you know that she E0pIXgVgnBY-00938-00241730-00241912 raised it's ten years between me and the E0pIXgVgnBY-00939-00241913-00242121 next 113 between you know me and oldest E0pIXgVgnBY-00940-00242123-00242344 when the oldest turned 18 he went in the E0pIXgVgnBY-00941-00242344-00242536 Navy and sent his checks home so that I E0pIXgVgnBY-00942-00242537-00242707 could go to Catholic school right E0pIXgVgnBY-00943-00242708-00242815 because the Baltimore public school E0pIXgVgnBY-00944-00242816-00243007 system was that jacked up and it's still E0pIXgVgnBY-00945-00243008-00243157 that jacked up I think the last E0pIXgVgnBY-00946-00243158-00243352 statistic I saw was 76 percent of E0pIXgVgnBY-00947-00243353-00243478 african-american males don't graduate E0pIXgVgnBY-00948-00243479-00243767 high school in Baltimore 76 percent E0pIXgVgnBY-00949-00243769-00244098 right in the city at that time was like E0pIXgVgnBY-00950-00244100-00244498 eighty-eight percent black right so to E0pIXgVgnBY-00951-00244498-00244711 circumvent that right him and my mother E0pIXgVgnBY-00952-00244712-00244971 sacrificed a lot and you know so he was E0pIXgVgnBY-00953-00244973-00245269 a navy at 18 docked in you know all E0pIXgVgnBY-00954-00245269-00245479 these places you know sending his you E0pIXgVgnBY-00955-00245480-00245638 know checks home and then that really E0pIXgVgnBY-00956-00245639-00245823 you know sort of it's a in you know to E0pIXgVgnBY-00957-00245825-00246052 resonate with them and then he like oh E0pIXgVgnBY-00958-00246053-00246259 okay and I was like you know my brother E0pIXgVgnBY-00959-00246260-00246669 was army right Road was Navy and he told E0pIXgVgnBY-00960-00246671-00246976 me take you guys to college he's like E0pIXgVgnBY-00961-00246977-00247108 man this ain't for you I was like yeah E0pIXgVgnBY-00962-00247109-00247271 you're right I got so many questions E0pIXgVgnBY-00963-00247273-00247528 ain't you good at following orders right E0pIXgVgnBY-00964-00247529-00247759 but you know they they they resonate you E0pIXgVgnBY-00965-00247760-00247971 know well with that so that's sort of E0pIXgVgnBY-00966-00247973-00248092 you know my in there but I can totally E0pIXgVgnBY-00967-00248092-00248314 see how you know students can miss and E0pIXgVgnBY-00968-00248315-00248440 you know not everybody go like you E0pIXgVgnBY-00969-00248441-00248617 always so people I'm an acquired taste E0pIXgVgnBY-00970-00248617-00248992 I'm like beer and like I think some E0pIXgVgnBY-00971-00248992-00249205 people like me some some don't some E0pIXgVgnBY-00972-00249206-00249412 students love me some hate me it's all E0pIXgVgnBY-00973-00249413-00249748 good it's all good but yeah I know my my E0pIXgVgnBY-00974-00249748-00249940 the way that I deliver my lecture is E0pIXgVgnBY-00975-00249941-00250096 nonlinear because that's the way I was E0pIXgVgnBY-00976-00250096-00250344 raised I'm a storyteller you know some E0pIXgVgnBY-00977-00250346-00250564 people get it some people don't but you E0pIXgVgnBY-00978-00250565-00252017 know so be it so be any others E0pIXgVgnBY-00980-00257152-00257667 no no sorry so backing up just a step by E0pIXgVgnBY-00981-00257667-00258758 the way I love this anyway so I teach E0pIXgVgnBY-00982-00258759-00259007 web development and frequently there's E0pIXgVgnBY-00983-00259008-00259338 so much change and there's never a right E0pIXgVgnBY-00984-00259339-00259557 answer at any moment what I knew E0pIXgVgnBY-00985-00259558-00259839 yesterday could be a liability today so E0pIXgVgnBY-00986-00259840-00259985 that's an advantage in our field because E0pIXgVgnBY-00987-00259986-00260157 I know that I don't know anything and I E0pIXgVgnBY-00988-00260158-00260400 never will but luckily I have people for E0pIXgVgnBY-00989-00260401-00260684 that I have all of you and therefore I E0pIXgVgnBY-00990-00260685-00260894 want them to feel like by the way E0pIXgVgnBY-00991-00260896-00261075 stumbled onto this this wasn't something E0pIXgVgnBY-00992-00261076-00261288 I figured out like everything and E0pIXgVgnBY-00993-00261289-00261498 probably came from a student but the E0pIXgVgnBY-00994-00261498-00261698 point is I have people for that means E0pIXgVgnBY-00995-00261700-00262019 that a I'm not the best at everything B E0pIXgVgnBY-00996-00262021-00262305 we all have value and we have more value E0pIXgVgnBY-00997-00262306-00262554 when we value each other and it's easily E0pIXgVgnBY-00998-00262555-00262782 demonstrated when you say hey that's a E0pIXgVgnBY-00999-00262783-00262938 great question I don't know anything E0pIXgVgnBY-01000-00262939-00263214 about it let's take a cursory look okay E0pIXgVgnBY-01001-00263215-00263478 no obvious answer so that's where points E0pIXgVgnBY-01002-00263479-00263703 so would you please if you want at your E0pIXgVgnBY-01003-00263704-00263763 convenience E0pIXgVgnBY-01004-00263764-00263946 take a look let me know what you think E0pIXgVgnBY-01005-00263947-00264087 we'll share it with the group E0pIXgVgnBY-01006-00264088-00264330 you'll get points and so that's really E0pIXgVgnBY-01007-00264331-00264507 effective because then people get E0pIXgVgnBY-01008-00264508-00264642 rewarded and the whole class gets E0pIXgVgnBY-01009-00264643-00264744 rewarded E0pIXgVgnBY-01010-00264745-00264983 and every time it's successful we repeat E0pIXgVgnBY-01011-00264984-00265203 it so that the students see how they E0pIXgVgnBY-01012-00265204-00265413 have people for that and then that was E0pIXgVgnBY-01013-00265414-00265569 the group work starts to build a E0pIXgVgnBY-01014-00265570-00265839 community it's effective in a situation E0pIXgVgnBY-01015-00265840-00266156 where the edge is receding at all times E0pIXgVgnBY-01016-00266157-00266333 because we don't know where it's always E0pIXgVgnBY-01017-00266334-00267090 gonna go so thank you I was william E0pIXgVgnBY-01018-00267091-00267680 everybody anymore you know calm anybody E0pIXgVgnBY-01019-00267681-00268095 else want to come up on stage with so E0pIXgVgnBY-01020-00268096-00269717 mic not working good okay any others I E0pIXgVgnBY-01022-00275460-00275703 I'll know much about accounting but you E0pIXgVgnBY-01023-00275704-00276018 know I take a shot I take a shot I might E0pIXgVgnBY-01024-00276019-00276158 have to take your class man E0pIXgVgnBY-01025-00276159-00276356 no I might not will the government E0pIXgVgnBY-01026-00276357-00276860 actually take place so you know with E0pIXgVgnBY-01027-00276861-00277079 accountant or you know numbers one of E0pIXgVgnBY-01028-00277080-00277215 the things that I would say you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01029-00277216-00277371 sorta to share with them in terms you E0pIXgVgnBY-01030-00277372-00277566 know honesty is maybe things that you've E0pIXgVgnBY-01031-00277567-00277695 experienced whether you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01032-00277696-00277899 difficulties you know with you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01033-00277900-00278078 numbers or problems that you've come E0pIXgVgnBY-01034-00278079-00278118 across E0pIXgVgnBY-01035-00278119-00278330 especially if you know in practice so E0pIXgVgnBY-01036-00278331-00278451 I'm sure you've seen a lot of you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01037-00278452-00278727 cases of you know things that win a ride E0pIXgVgnBY-01038-00278728-00278903 it could have been avoided or you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01039-00278904-00279053 you know stuff like that I was thought E0pIXgVgnBY-01040-00279054-00279206 to share you know some case studies with E0pIXgVgnBY-01041-00279207-00279414 them you know some real-life you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01042-00279415-00279549 things that they could dig into and you E0pIXgVgnBY-01043-00279550-00279806 know you can remove the names and you E0pIXgVgnBY-01044-00279807-00279942 know all that stuff but you know give E0pIXgVgnBY-01045-00279943-00280079 them you know sort of case studies to E0pIXgVgnBY-01046-00280080-00280280 look at you know when it comes to you E0pIXgVgnBY-01047-00280281-00280427 know numbers and accountant and things E0pIXgVgnBY-01048-00280428-00280583 that they might encounter that would be E0pIXgVgnBY-01049-00280584-00280733 you know my suggestion other people E0pIXgVgnBY-01050-00280734-00280875 might have you know some other stuff E0pIXgVgnBY-01051-00280876-00281033 that might being closely related fields E0pIXgVgnBY-01052-00281034-00281187 but I love you know sort of a problem E0pIXgVgnBY-01053-00281188-00281360 solving aspect with the two of you E0pIXgVgnBY-01054-00281361-00281528 talked about all right put it out there E0pIXgVgnBY-01055-00281529-00281802 and let them work through it I you know E0pIXgVgnBY-01056-00281803-00283277 sort of figure it out E0pIXgVgnBY-01057-00283278-00285645 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-01058-00285646-00288203 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-01059-00288204-00289688 [Music] E0pIXgVgnBY-01060-00289689-00289917 absolutely absolutely should definitely E0pIXgVgnBY-01061-00289918-00290034 bleed through and flow through E0pIXgVgnBY-01062-00290035-00290217 everything yeah well thank you I E0pIXgVgnBY-01063-00290218-00290364 appreciate all the comments y'all should E0pIXgVgnBY-01064-00290365-00290558 give you ourselves a round of applause E0pIXgVgnBY-01065-00290559-00291002 [Applause] E0pIXgVgnBY-01066-00291003-00291270 and so just a you know final thought E0pIXgVgnBY-01067-00291271-00291468 this is story I stole from somebody so E0pIXgVgnBY-01068-00291469-00291660 they watching it is on recording yeah E0pIXgVgnBY-01069-00291661-00292020 yeah I stole it so yeah I started with E0pIXgVgnBY-01070-00292021-00292170 talking duck and I'm an Englishman story E0pIXgVgnBY-01071-00292171-00292416 about balloons yeah yeah I know I told E0pIXgVgnBY-01072-00292417-00292626 you I'm nonlinear I hopefully it makes E0pIXgVgnBY-01073-00292627-00293007 sense 15 years from now so this story is E0pIXgVgnBY-01074-00293008-00293163 about a little boy who you know went to E0pIXgVgnBY-01075-00293164-00293325 a carnival for the first time right he's E0pIXgVgnBY-01076-00293326-00293547 never been 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E0pIXgVgnBY-01090-00296173-00296346 them he's like well what are they E0pIXgVgnBY-01091-00296347-00296481 putting in them and instead of giving E0pIXgVgnBY-01092-00296482-00296676 him a scientific answer you know no E0pIXgVgnBY-01093-00296677-00296880 helium he was like they putting the E0pIXgVgnBY-01094-00296881-00297096 right stuff in him he was like it's so E0pIXgVgnBY-01095-00297097-00297294 that the more order story is if you feel E0pIXgVgnBY-01096-00297295-00297414 your students up with the right stuff E0pIXgVgnBY-01097-00297415-00297642 they will rise right to the occasion it E0pIXgVgnBY-01098-00297643-00297831 will rise to Olympian Heights that you E0pIXgVgnBY-01099-00297832-00298056 might not even imagine so just make sure E0pIXgVgnBY-01100-00298057-00298203 that y'all filling students up with the E0pIXgVgnBY-01101-00298204-00298401 right stuff right what's that I say you E0pIXgVgnBY-01102-00298402-00298798 know thank you I appreciate you E0pIXgVgnBY-01103-00298799-00299005 you E19HsTlAVT8-00000-00001153-00001714 okay thank you all great being here so E19HsTlAVT8-00001-00001714-00002065 as a completely unnecessary preface let E19HsTlAVT8-00002-00002066-00002279 me say that I put together this talk E19HsTlAVT8-00003-00002280-00002506 description about 11 months ago in the E19HsTlAVT8-00004-00002507-00002716 sort of rushed moments before the Linux E19HsTlAVT8-00005-00002717-00002899 conf au deadline because I thought that E19HsTlAVT8-00006-00002900-00003175 it might be up there Holly and it was I E19HsTlAVT8-00007-00003176-00003356 kind of like assembled things that I E19HsTlAVT8-00008-00003357-00003614 knew with keywords that sounded cool E19HsTlAVT8-00009-00003615-00003914 into a top proposal and yellow it worked E19HsTlAVT8-00010-00003915-00004178 and as I was preparing for it six months E19HsTlAVT8-00011-00004179-00004504 ago I realized that the content is E19HsTlAVT8-00012-00004505-00004810 actually pretty cool it's not just E19HsTlAVT8-00013-00004811-00005060 keyword spam so I hope you all taken E19HsTlAVT8-00014-00005061-00005246 with the with an open mind even if it E19HsTlAVT8-00015-00005247-00005617 sounds kind of intense so this talk is E19HsTlAVT8-00016-00005618-00005866 called positive community management and E19HsTlAVT8-00017-00005867-00006100 in the talk we're going to talk a bit E19HsTlAVT8-00018-00006101-00006245 about I'm going to talk a bit about and E19HsTlAVT8-00019-00006246-00006332 hopefully maybe you guys will too if E19HsTlAVT8-00020-00006333-00006566 there's time afterwards about surveys E19HsTlAVT8-00021-00006567-00006706 that people do in open source projects E19HsTlAVT8-00022-00006708-00006830 to get a sense of what their communities E19HsTlAVT8-00023-00006831-00007145 are like different active interventions E19HsTlAVT8-00024-00007145-00007342 people have staged to improve the E19HsTlAVT8-00025-00007343-00007484 diversity and outreach education E19HsTlAVT8-00026-00007484-00007817 qualities of their communities and how E19HsTlAVT8-00027-00007818-00007964 to do all those things very effectively E19HsTlAVT8-00028-00007965-00008168 from what we know and what studies seem E19HsTlAVT8-00029-00008169-00008348 to still be required and what work is E19HsTlAVT8-00030-00008349-00008660 going on now so briefly my introduction E19HsTlAVT8-00031-00008661-00008966 to free software was that in at a summer E19HsTlAVT8-00032-00008967-00009197 camp I was lucky enough to have a friend E19HsTlAVT8-00033-00009198-00009344 who told me something about linux and E19HsTlAVT8-00034-00009345-00009467 I'll even lucky enough to have a E19HsTlAVT8-00035-00009468-00009731 computer at home so am i I've when I got E19HsTlAVT8-00036-00009732-00009878 back from camp I went to my bedroom and E19HsTlAVT8-00037-00009879-00010118 certain hotbot for linux and i found all E19HsTlAVT8-00038-00010119-00010277 this stuff going on i stall the web E19HsTlAVT8-00039-00010278-00010592 browser and the default ah the default E19HsTlAVT8-00040-00010593-00010826 bookmarks for netscape for on linux back E19HsTlAVT8-00041-00010827-00011006 then seemed to always include slashdot E19HsTlAVT8-00042-00011007-00011180 so i was reading that and people were E19HsTlAVT8-00043-00011181-00011480 talking about how there's this new issue E19HsTlAVT8-00044-00011481-00011783 where some Norwegian teenager wrote a E19HsTlAVT8-00045-00011784-00012032 DVD decryption program called DCSS that E19HsTlAVT8-00046-00012033-00012275 removes the content scrambling system E19HsTlAVT8-00047-00012276-00012470 from DVDs and if you want to write your E19HsTlAVT8-00048-00012471-00012610 own DVD player you have to remove this E19HsTlAVT8-00049-00012611-00012955 even is just to play the DVD this by E19HsTlAVT8-00050-00012956-00013099 itself is not that exciting people need E19HsTlAVT8-00051-00013100-00013261 to write software but the exciting part E19HsTlAVT8-00052-00013262-00013427 was that in the US the software was E19HsTlAVT8-00053-00013428-00013630 illegal because to play dvds you need to E19HsTlAVT8-00054-00013631-00013789 remove copy protection and since two E19HsTlAVT8-00055-00013790-00014113 years ago that was not allowed and it's E19HsTlAVT8-00056-00014115-00014255 became very clear to me that there was E19HsTlAVT8-00057-00014256-00014333 this E19HsTlAVT8-00058-00014334-00014647 a growing rift between what's E19HsTlAVT8-00059-00014648-00015125 permissible to do in law and what people E19HsTlAVT8-00060-00015126-00015469 want to do and free software seem to be E19HsTlAVT8-00061-00015470-00015677 pushing the boundaries of that quicker E19HsTlAVT8-00062-00015678-00015932 than anything else so I learned more E19HsTlAVT8-00063-00015933-00016082 about the canoe manifesto because I do E19HsTlAVT8-00064-00016083-00016286 my high school C++ homework and I type E19HsTlAVT8-00065-00016287-00016553 ctrl H M in Emacs and then it told me E19HsTlAVT8-00066-00016554-00016727 all about it and I became a convert I E19HsTlAVT8-00067-00016728-00016861 started reading the writings of steph's E19HsTlAVT8-00068-00016862-00017035 David shown who's a SAN francisco-based E19HsTlAVT8-00069-00017036-00017305 Electronic Frontier staff technologist E19HsTlAVT8-00070-00017306-00017669 and in 2006 I was pretty basically E19HsTlAVT8-00071-00017670-00017810 confused that when I invited it to lunch E19HsTlAVT8-00072-00017811-00017924 because i was living in San Francisco E19HsTlAVT8-00073-00017925-00018239 first summer he like said okay and hung E19HsTlAVT8-00074-00018240-00018539 out with me ah and then by a sudden I E19HsTlAVT8-00075-00018540-00018725 was hanging out with him so much that I E19HsTlAVT8-00076-00018726-00018953 concluded that if this mu Maneri is E19HsTlAVT8-00077-00018954-00019133 someone who I can go and get to know E19HsTlAVT8-00078-00019134-00019355 then there are not enough people active E19HsTlAVT8-00079-00019356-00019786 and free software activism and so in E19HsTlAVT8-00080-00019787-00019958 2009 I founded this organization called E19HsTlAVT8-00081-00019959-00020186 open hatch which I work for the E19HsTlAVT8-00082-00020187-00020630 nonprofit now so in finding out what our E19HsTlAVT8-00083-00020631-00020794 community is like this is I guess one E19HsTlAVT8-00084-00020795-00020978 approach to measuring that there are E19HsTlAVT8-00085-00020979-00021209 other approaches and the most well-known E19HsTlAVT8-00086-00021210-00021481 approach stems from 2001 it's called the E19HsTlAVT8-00087-00021482-00021824 floss survey it's by gosh at all from E19HsTlAVT8-00088-00021825-00022127 III Maastricht and it has all these E19HsTlAVT8-00089-00022128-00022403 lovely these lovely figures and charts E19HsTlAVT8-00090-00022404-00022718 so this survey was an opt-in survey sent E19HsTlAVT8-00091-00022719-00022886 to users of sourceforge net how many of E19HsTlAVT8-00092-00022887-00023253 you had source for accounts okay cool E19HsTlAVT8-00093-00023254-00023584 almost half or something and wait can I E19HsTlAVT8-00094-00023585-00024214 let's see those hands against okay if E19HsTlAVT8-00095-00024215-00024455 the the survey was pretty long because E19HsTlAVT8-00096-00024456-00024668 these researchers want to know what E19HsTlAVT8-00097-00024669-00024865 drives people to create free software E19HsTlAVT8-00098-00024866-00025049 how much time do they spend on it who E19HsTlAVT8-00099-00025050-00025165 are they what are their professional E19HsTlAVT8-00100-00025166-00025403 backgrounds what are their education and E19HsTlAVT8-00101-00025404-00025687 cultural personal statistics and we E19HsTlAVT8-00102-00025688-00025874 learned a few things from that survey we E19HsTlAVT8-00103-00025875-00026075 learned that the motivations to develop E19HsTlAVT8-00104-00026076-00026377 free software primarily its to learn and E19HsTlAVT8-00105-00026378-00026606 develop new skills according to the E19HsTlAVT8-00106-00026607-00026948 highest ranked option there sharing your E19HsTlAVT8-00107-00026949-00027115 knowledge participating a new kind of E19HsTlAVT8-00108-00027116-00027364 cooperation well the term open source E19HsTlAVT8-00109-00027365-00027502 was only two years old three years old E19HsTlAVT8-00110-00027503-00027607 at the time E19HsTlAVT8-00111-00027608-00027877 and somehow to participate in the scene E19HsTlAVT8-00112-00027877-00028083 rank easily highly to maybe that's why I E19HsTlAVT8-00113-00028084-00028437 do it actually but from that study we E19HsTlAVT8-00114-00028438-00028599 also learned some demographic data we E19HsTlAVT8-00115-00028600-00028752 learn supposedly that one point one E19HsTlAVT8-00116-00028753-00028905 percent of the people in the free E19HsTlAVT8-00117-00028906-00029040 software community as they surveyed or E19HsTlAVT8-00118-00029041-00029262 women and when they reran the study with E19HsTlAVT8-00119-00029263-00029389 what other people we ran to study with E19HsTlAVT8-00120-00029389-00029599 the u.s. focus they got this plus or E19HsTlAVT8-00121-00029600-00029899 minus fifty percent number which you E19HsTlAVT8-00122-00029900-00030186 know is still pretty tiny but I want to E19HsTlAVT8-00123-00030187-00030352 think a bit about the methodology again E19HsTlAVT8-00124-00030352-00030652 so the authors of that study emphasized E19HsTlAVT8-00125-00030652-00030861 in their paper that rather than seeking E19HsTlAVT8-00126-00030862-00031060 out a narrow band of very E19HsTlAVT8-00127-00031061-00031351 well-controlled people they want to E19HsTlAVT8-00128-00031352-00031507 respond us to come from all sorts of E19HsTlAVT8-00129-00031508-00031705 open-source life they want respondents E19HsTlAVT8-00130-00031706-00031887 to figure out for themselves if they E19HsTlAVT8-00131-00031888-00032208 should be considered developers and if E19HsTlAVT8-00132-00032209-00032373 you know something about things like E19HsTlAVT8-00133-00032374-00032820 selection bias or our stereotype threat E19HsTlAVT8-00134-00032821-00033064 you might realize that if their goal is E19HsTlAVT8-00135-00033065-00033312 to analyze the entire community it's not E19HsTlAVT8-00136-00033313-00033817 going to work this way so these sorts of E19HsTlAVT8-00137-00033818-00033990 opt-in surveys have these massive bias E19HsTlAVT8-00138-00033991-00034170 problems but the most exciting thing E19HsTlAVT8-00139-00034171-00034408 about them i think is that we just don't E19HsTlAVT8-00140-00034409-00034815 know how bias they are maybe when the E19HsTlAVT8-00141-00034816-00035005 u.s. survey went out it was a three-day E19HsTlAVT8-00142-00035006-00035352 weekend and that meant that people in E19HsTlAVT8-00143-00035353-00035640 Michigan who mostly do their open source E19HsTlAVT8-00144-00035641-00035992 as part of academia could take a break E19HsTlAVT8-00145-00035993-00036118 from their research and answer this E19HsTlAVT8-00146-00036119-00036468 great email survey I don't know nor do E19HsTlAVT8-00147-00036469-00036724 the authors of the study but there's a E19HsTlAVT8-00148-00036725-00036918 bunch of sort of general work on more E19HsTlAVT8-00149-00036919-00037030 about what the community looks like E19HsTlAVT8-00150-00037031-00037282 people want to find out what open source E19HsTlAVT8-00151-00037283-00037407 projects look like characteristically E19HsTlAVT8-00152-00037408-00037689 and one pretty good sample survey for E19HsTlAVT8-00153-00037690-00037902 that is the who writes Linux report run E19HsTlAVT8-00154-00037903-00038326 by the Linux Foundation so they run this E19HsTlAVT8-00155-00038327-00038548 I think every year these numbers are E19HsTlAVT8-00156-00038549-00038802 from the Linux kernel 2.6 point 30 these E19HsTlAVT8-00157-00038803-00038976 numbers are especially interesting in E19HsTlAVT8-00158-00038977-00039148 that they are calculated based on the E19HsTlAVT8-00159-00039149-00039504 git repository + follow on analysis so E19HsTlAVT8-00160-00039505-00039805 in a way there's no sample bias because E19HsTlAVT8-00161-00039806-00039943 they managed to cover all the gate E19HsTlAVT8-00162-00039944-00040198 commits but on the other hand if there's E19HsTlAVT8-00163-00040199-00040339 valuable when its contributions people E19HsTlAVT8-00164-00040340-00040593 are making for example maintaining the E19HsTlAVT8-00165-00040594-00040926 colonel newbies org wiki or doing patch E19HsTlAVT8-00166-00040927-00040969 review E19HsTlAVT8-00167-00040970-00041095 you all moving the colonel list you're E19HsTlAVT8-00168-00041096-00041215 not going to see those in these figures E19HsTlAVT8-00169-00041216-00041356 but at least their precise they're E19HsTlAVT8-00170-00041357-00041659 asking who writes Linux so a bunch of E19HsTlAVT8-00171-00041660-00041884 people pretty cool turns out free E19HsTlAVT8-00172-00041885-00042331 software is a pretty broad highly E19HsTlAVT8-00173-00042332-00042712 collaborative enterprise but not always E19HsTlAVT8-00174-00042713-00043171 so if you what I so I have a question E19HsTlAVT8-00175-00043172-00043303 and for those of you who know this E19HsTlAVT8-00176-00043304-00043432 figure may be done answer the question E19HsTlAVT8-00177-00043433-00043600 is what is the median number of E19HsTlAVT8-00178-00043601-00043744 contributors to an open source project E19HsTlAVT8-00179-00043745-00044602 ah to any of you to want to guess the E19HsTlAVT8-00180-00044603-00044770 median right so it's got to be greater E19HsTlAVT8-00181-00044771-00045061 than or equal to 1 and less than or E19HsTlAVT8-00182-00045062-00045292 equal to probably a thousand one hundred E19HsTlAVT8-00183-00045293-00045478 fifty since that's a highly highly E19HsTlAVT8-00184-00045479-00045994 collaborative project for I see any E19HsTlAVT8-00185-00045995-00046264 other numbers I'm open to more guesses E19HsTlAVT8-00186-00046265-00046741 any other numbers alright and I see some E19HsTlAVT8-00187-00046742-00046861 other some other grinning hands in the E19HsTlAVT8-00188-00046862-00047101 back so let's look at a graph ah if you E19HsTlAVT8-00189-00047102-00047262 look at all products on sourceforge net E19HsTlAVT8-00190-00047263-00047695 the big vast majority have 12 developer E19HsTlAVT8-00191-00047696-00048040 I think you have to hit boy hundreds i'm E19HsTlAVT8-00192-00048041-00048252 pretty high percentiles to go even 22 E19HsTlAVT8-00193-00048253-00048454 but you know this is silly right on E19HsTlAVT8-00194-00048455-00048655 sourceforge i made this great project E19HsTlAVT8-00195-00048656-00048874 that i almost did no work on that E19HsTlAVT8-00196-00048875-00049021 doesn't really matter what matters is E19HsTlAVT8-00197-00049022-00049309 open source of people use software that E19HsTlAVT8-00198-00049310-00049483 is categorized as mature and production E19HsTlAVT8-00199-00049484-00049780 ready and you see the same graph at E19HsTlAVT8-00200-00049781-00050017 least on sourceforge and if you look for E19HsTlAVT8-00201-00050018-00050242 projects that are these downloaded in E19HsTlAVT8-00202-00050243-00050374 very high percentiles not just where E19HsTlAVT8-00203-00050375-00050518 they're supposedly ready for people to E19HsTlAVT8-00204-00050519-00050644 use but where they're actually used by E19HsTlAVT8-00205-00050645-00050818 people then you see basically the same E19HsTlAVT8-00206-00050819-00051204 graph the median is still one over here E19HsTlAVT8-00207-00051205-00051469 this entire figure is greater than the E19HsTlAVT8-00208-00051470-00051796 sum of that tail similarly in other E19HsTlAVT8-00209-00051797-00052057 collaborative enterprises there's this E19HsTlAVT8-00210-00052058-00052474 there's this of children oriented E19HsTlAVT8-00211-00052475-00052612 programming language called scratch E19HsTlAVT8-00212-00052613-00052840 we're all projects in scratch are made E19HsTlAVT8-00213-00052841-00053004 inside an interface that ensures E19HsTlAVT8-00214-00053005-00053205 collaboration is possible because the E19HsTlAVT8-00215-00053207-00053476 you can every project has an edit link E19HsTlAVT8-00216-00053477-00053722 every project can be forked and worked E19HsTlAVT8-00217-00053723-00053866 on independently there's no requirement E19HsTlAVT8-00218-00053866-00054100 to share things upstream if you want to E19HsTlAVT8-00219-00054101-00054221 count it as someone E19HsTlAVT8-00220-00054222-00054437 who's made a derivative work so you know E19HsTlAVT8-00221-00054438-00054599 you might say that perhaps the problem E19HsTlAVT8-00222-00054600-00054776 with sourceforge that it's too hard to E19HsTlAVT8-00223-00054777-00055010 get involved too many submitting patches E19HsTlAVT8-00224-00055011-00055172 by email or the bug tracker or the past E19HsTlAVT8-00225-00055173-00055382 tracking system but if you look on E19HsTlAVT8-00226-00055383-00055666 scratch for projects that are at least E19HsTlAVT8-00227-00055667-00056051 one year old you see the same graph but E19HsTlAVT8-00228-00056052-00056423 you know for google code or other other E19HsTlAVT8-00229-00056424-00056615 enterprises where they're newer than E19HsTlAVT8-00230-00056616-00056791 sourceforge maybe github people are E19HsTlAVT8-00231-00056792-00056955 probably more collaborative on those so E19HsTlAVT8-00232-00056957-00057179 this is what google code looks like in E19HsTlAVT8-00233-00057179-00057320 terms of media number of contributors E19HsTlAVT8-00234-00057321-00057541 and there's a bunch of these right this E19HsTlAVT8-00235-00057542-00057707 would ditch the active projects these E19HsTlAVT8-00236-00057708-00057908 are the projects on github that are E19HsTlAVT8-00237-00057909-00058037 public and my favorite thing about this E19HsTlAVT8-00238-00058038-00058322 graph is that here developers is so E19HsTlAVT8-00239-00058323-00058598 liberally defined as to mean even E19HsTlAVT8-00240-00058599-00058745 somebody who's watching the repository E19HsTlAVT8-00241-00058746-00059099 has started this looks at least as bad E19HsTlAVT8-00242-00059100-00059317 as an original sourceforge graph so I E19HsTlAVT8-00243-00059319-00059462 don't know maybe open source in a very E19HsTlAVT8-00244-00059463-00059600 collaborative enterprise that for all I E19HsTlAVT8-00245-00059601-00059885 want to go back to the ghost survey and E19HsTlAVT8-00246-00059886-00060284 ask some questions maybe the reason we E19HsTlAVT8-00247-00060285-00060517 see so few women in the ghost survey is E19HsTlAVT8-00248-00060519-00060779 that perhaps fewer women start projects E19HsTlAVT8-00249-00060779-00060989 on on sourceforge is over represented by E19HsTlAVT8-00250-00060990-00061265 projects on that one contributor scale E19HsTlAVT8-00251-00061266-00061625 so maybe emailing all the sourceforge E19HsTlAVT8-00252-00061626-00061745 contributors is a bad way to reach E19HsTlAVT8-00253-00061746-00061970 people who participate in multiple E19HsTlAVT8-00254-00061971-00062453 projects it could also be that mandatory E19HsTlAVT8-00255-00062454-00062669 software in 2001 were somehow using E19HsTlAVT8-00256-00062670-00062900 different or self-hosting so maybe E19HsTlAVT8-00257-00062901-00063083 gutenberg org was a bit of in a better E19HsTlAVT8-00258-00063084-00063416 place to find the women in in free E19HsTlAVT8-00259-00063416-00063851 software or maybe and i think this is E19HsTlAVT8-00260-00063852-00064028 the most interesting maybe women were E19HsTlAVT8-00261-00064029-00064192 just less likely to answer the question E19HsTlAVT8-00262-00064194-00064424 they were more busy they saw a question E19HsTlAVT8-00263-00064425-00064649 about gender and just like quit I don't E19HsTlAVT8-00264-00064650-00064991 know I think that the fact we don't know E19HsTlAVT8-00265-00064991-00065165 these questions comes down to the notion E19HsTlAVT8-00266-00065166-00065399 that most of these surveys are sort of E19HsTlAVT8-00267-00065400-00065573 looking for academic factoids or not E19HsTlAVT8-00268-00065574-00065759 trying to give us all information to E19HsTlAVT8-00269-00065760-00065912 help make our communities better they're E19HsTlAVT8-00270-00065913-00066053 trying to understand free software E19HsTlAVT8-00271-00066054-00066209 because they're so impressed by this E19HsTlAVT8-00272-00066210-00066425 novel economic system and weird like E19HsTlAVT8-00273-00066426-00066754 just busy making it and fundamentally E19HsTlAVT8-00274-00066755-00066965 there are being measured by people who E19HsTlAVT8-00275-00066966-00067097 don't have an interest in the results E19HsTlAVT8-00276-00067098-00067247 and interest in the sense of skin in the E19HsTlAVT8-00277-00067248-00067453 game they're curious E19HsTlAVT8-00278-00067454-00067864 so at this point you might conclude that E19HsTlAVT8-00279-00067865-00068146 all our opt-in surveys if your make a E19HsTlAVT8-00280-00068147-00068320 hill especially are just hopelessly E19HsTlAVT8-00281-00068321-00068779 broken and with this one caveat that you E19HsTlAVT8-00282-00068780-00069127 have to know who answered so the who E19HsTlAVT8-00283-00069128-00069322 wrote the colonel questions you at least E19HsTlAVT8-00284-00069323-00069748 know is in the gate repository but you E19HsTlAVT8-00285-00069749-00070054 know on the other hand we learned E19HsTlAVT8-00286-00070055-00070216 something that's of some significance E19HsTlAVT8-00287-00070217-00070393 from this ghost survey right we learned E19HsTlAVT8-00288-00070394-00070654 that probably about one ish maybe as E19HsTlAVT8-00289-00070655-00070867 many as 1.6 Trish maybe if is twice that E19HsTlAVT8-00290-00070868-00071059 two percent of the contributor to open E19HsTlAVT8-00291-00071060-00071308 source in 2001 were women and we can all E19HsTlAVT8-00292-00071309-00071647 be perfectly rationally distressed by E19HsTlAVT8-00293-00071648-00071785 that number even if we don't know E19HsTlAVT8-00294-00071786-00072094 exactly where the bias lies so you might E19HsTlAVT8-00295-00072095-00072418 say that getting data from those surveys E19HsTlAVT8-00296-00072419-00072601 is good enough and that's sort of what I E19HsTlAVT8-00297-00072602-00072766 thought until I started prepping this E19HsTlAVT8-00298-00072767-00073012 talk and as I work through what I was E19HsTlAVT8-00299-00073013-00073192 going to say I realized that first of E19HsTlAVT8-00300-00073193-00073339 all we don't know the boundaries of that E19HsTlAVT8-00301-00073340-00073789 maybe sourceforge had maybe we really E19HsTlAVT8-00302-00073790-00073855 should have been looking at a E19HsTlAVT8-00303-00073856-00074023 livejournal community or something not E19HsTlAVT8-00304-00074024-00074359 2001 but I don't know more interesting E19HsTlAVT8-00305-00074360-00074491 though is the question of how we measure E19HsTlAVT8-00306-00074492-00074770 progress so if in 2001 we have these two E19HsTlAVT8-00307-00074771-00074890 numbers one point one percent at one E19HsTlAVT8-00308-00074891-00075280 point six percent in 2013 do we know if E19HsTlAVT8-00309-00075281-00075508 we're getting better if we're trying E19HsTlAVT8-00310-00075509-00076012 particular outreach efforts maybe those E19HsTlAVT8-00311-00076013-00076177 outreach efforts just aren't working or E19HsTlAVT8-00312-00076178-00076369 maybe they're working like crazy I'm E19HsTlAVT8-00313-00076370-00076504 going to pour money into that reach E19HsTlAVT8-00314-00076505-00076807 effort until the problem vanishes we're E19HsTlAVT8-00315-00076808-00077076 not going to know if our surveys are E19HsTlAVT8-00316-00077077-00077302 incomprehensibly biased and I'll E19HsTlAVT8-00317-00077303-00077407 demonstrate that a little more clearly E19HsTlAVT8-00318-00077408-00077728 in a few moments so I wanted to upon E19HsTlAVT8-00319-00077729-00077974 reading these surveys think about how to E19HsTlAVT8-00320-00077975-00078214 make surveys and other quantitative E19HsTlAVT8-00321-00078215-00078412 measures of communities actionable for E19HsTlAVT8-00322-00078413-00078502 the people who are in those communities E19HsTlAVT8-00323-00078503-00078655 for the people who want those products E19HsTlAVT8-00324-00078656-00079141 to flourish so in 2008 Wikipedia and the E19HsTlAVT8-00325-00079142-00079432 same people the UN you merit gosh at all E19HsTlAVT8-00326-00079433-00079630 people put together a survey of E19HsTlAVT8-00327-00079631-00079813 Wikipedia contributors and it was E19HsTlAVT8-00328-00079814-00079966 another opt-in survey it had all the E19HsTlAVT8-00329-00079967-00080188 methodological problems of the 2001 E19HsTlAVT8-00330-00080189-00080485 survey it was at the top of every page E19HsTlAVT8-00331-00080486-00080692 if you were logged in I guess I'm E19HsTlAVT8-00332-00080693-00080800 Wikipedia I'm E19HsTlAVT8-00333-00080801-00080983 that I didn't see it it's been five E19HsTlAVT8-00334-00080984-00081118 years is probably unfair to ask you guys E19HsTlAVT8-00335-00081119-00081430 if you saw it but they wanted to answer E19HsTlAVT8-00336-00081431-00081598 questions basically relating to the E19HsTlAVT8-00337-00081599-00081751 relationship between Wikipedia and the E19HsTlAVT8-00338-00081752-00082147 foundation + find out who these editors E19HsTlAVT8-00339-00082148-00082408 of Wikipedia are and maybe we can get E19HsTlAVT8-00340-00082409-00082555 some balance at least on things like E19HsTlAVT8-00341-00082556-00082753 gender diversity so we learned that E19HsTlAVT8-00342-00082754-00083041 according to the survey 25% of these E19HsTlAVT8-00343-00083042-00083278 editors were younger than 18 presumably E19HsTlAVT8-00344-00083279-00083620 well we learned that most American 22 E19HsTlAVT8-00345-00083621-00083890 more interesting is that according to E19HsTlAVT8-00346-00083891-00084109 the survey almost seventy percent of the E19HsTlAVT8-00347-00084110-00084474 readers alone into Wikipedia or men and E19HsTlAVT8-00348-00084475-00084766 according to the survey men also E19HsTlAVT8-00349-00084767-00085024 directive represented in the editorship E19HsTlAVT8-00350-00085025-00085330 but also more than a quarter of the E19HsTlAVT8-00351-00085331-00085540 people who reread or edit Wikipedia E19HsTlAVT8-00352-00085541-00086032 speak Russian as a primary language more E19HsTlAVT8-00353-00086033-00086227 than English which strikes me as a E19HsTlAVT8-00354-00086228-00086725 surprise so in fact it strikes me as E19HsTlAVT8-00355-00086726-00086979 completely implausible to be honest E19HsTlAVT8-00356-00086980-00087319 maybe some Russian forum posted a link E19HsTlAVT8-00357-00087320-00087565 to the survey and they dominated the E19HsTlAVT8-00358-00087566-00087742 results because they were so excited to E19HsTlAVT8-00359-00087743-00088087 self count or maybe some Russian native E19HsTlAVT8-00360-00088088-00088285 speaker sent a message to all of his E19HsTlAVT8-00361-00088286-00088450 Wikipedia using friends encouraging them E19HsTlAVT8-00362-00088451-00088546 to follow the survey so they can be E19HsTlAVT8-00363-00088547-00088864 counted with this result well maybe E19HsTlAVT8-00364-00088865-00089056 that's the truth hard to say from this E19HsTlAVT8-00365-00089057-00089287 opt-in survey and if we don't know about E19HsTlAVT8-00366-00089288-00089422 that how can we know anything about E19HsTlAVT8-00367-00089423-00089776 these figures here I mean maybe ah yeah E19HsTlAVT8-00368-00089777-00090097 I don't know they did a follow-up survey E19HsTlAVT8-00369-00090098-00090409 to 2011 with similar problems it was E19HsTlAVT8-00370-00090410-00090547 conducted again and presented to you E19HsTlAVT8-00371-00090548-00090709 logged in users and you had to opt into E19HsTlAVT8-00372-00090710-00090982 it and according to that E19HsTlAVT8-00373-00090983-00091138 eight-point-five percent of Wikipedia E19HsTlAVT8-00374-00091139-00091264 editors are female and if you narrow E19HsTlAVT8-00375-00091265-00091537 that to you can narrow that to the US E19HsTlAVT8-00376-00091538-00091792 and still get pretty little figures so E19HsTlAVT8-00377-00091793-00091978 we could believe from this there is E19HsTlAVT8-00378-00091979-00092224 always getting worse perhaps it's even E19HsTlAVT8-00379-00092225-00092368 hopeless perhaps is more people sign E19HsTlAVT8-00380-00092369-00092847 online from 2008 2011 the amount of E19HsTlAVT8-00381-00092848-00093124 sexism globally is just increasing and E19HsTlAVT8-00382-00093125-00093367 so you see this dramatic drop from from E19HsTlAVT8-00383-00093368-00093484 before to down to eight point five E19HsTlAVT8-00384-00093485-00093922 percent or maybe the sample surveys just E19HsTlAVT8-00385-00093923-00094051 had different bias E19HsTlAVT8-00386-00094052-00094569 so remember that in the UN you study E19HsTlAVT8-00387-00094570-00094834 twenty-six percent of readers of E19HsTlAVT8-00388-00094835-00095002 Wikipedia speak Russian as their native E19HsTlAVT8-00389-00095003-00095299 language can you guys think of any way E19HsTlAVT8-00390-00095300-00095620 to measure to get a sense of the native E19HsTlAVT8-00391-00095621-00095791 language of Wikipedia speakers if you're E19HsTlAVT8-00392-00095792-00096063 not doing an opt-in survey to Wikipedia E19HsTlAVT8-00393-00096064-00096763 would you say yeah yeah and in this case E19HsTlAVT8-00394-00096764-00096910 you can compare them against comscore E19HsTlAVT8-00395-00096911-00097063 and you'll find the two point five E19HsTlAVT8-00396-00097064-00097255 percent of the readers of Wikipedia seem E19HsTlAVT8-00397-00097256-00097420 to probably speak Russian as a primary E19HsTlAVT8-00398-00097421-00097897 language what this means about that E19HsTlAVT8-00399-00097898-00098143 survey is that it's hard to know E19HsTlAVT8-00400-00098144-00098485 anything from it so knowing just this E19HsTlAVT8-00401-00098486-00098853 you can't fix up the results that we got E19HsTlAVT8-00402-00098854-00099079 but if you learn a little more you can E19HsTlAVT8-00403-00099080-00099448 so in 2010 totally independently the Pew E19HsTlAVT8-00404-00099449-00099769 Center for new media did a phone survey E19HsTlAVT8-00405-00099770-00100128 of all Americans a sample randomly and E19HsTlAVT8-00406-00100129-00100423 they published all their data the goal E19HsTlAVT8-00407-00100424-00100665 is to understand how internet use is E19HsTlAVT8-00408-00100666-00100975 present in the US and they called E19HsTlAVT8-00409-00100976-00101434 Americans on the phone and cell phone E19HsTlAVT8-00410-00101435-00101692 actually yeah they took care of that E19HsTlAVT8-00411-00101693-00101968 particular aspect I think it was E19HsTlAVT8-00412-00101969-00102283 primarily cell phone actually yeah and E19HsTlAVT8-00413-00102284-00102376 so I'm going to show you some quick E19HsTlAVT8-00414-00102377-00102553 results from that just keep in mind the E19HsTlAVT8-00415-00102554-00102667 figures might not add up to one hundred E19HsTlAVT8-00416-00102668-00102928 percent because of something i'll E19HsTlAVT8-00417-00102929-00103042 explain any when the figures on the E19HsTlAVT8-00418-00103043-00103378 screen so of people in the eighteen to E19HsTlAVT8-00419-00103379-00103642 twenty nine percent age bracket 6262 E19HsTlAVT8-00420-00103643-00103801 percent of the people in that bracket E19HsTlAVT8-00421-00103802-00104218 read wikipedia and the numbers get E19HsTlAVT8-00422-00104219-00104389 slightly lower but pretty high as you E19HsTlAVT8-00423-00104390-00104773 increase the age brackets age bounds in E19HsTlAVT8-00424-00104774-00105183 terms of gender we saw from the opt-in E19HsTlAVT8-00425-00105184-00105442 survey that seventy percent i think of E19HsTlAVT8-00426-00105443-00105772 readers of wikipedia or mail anyone E19HsTlAVT8-00427-00105773-00105885 won't take a guess here how it looks E19HsTlAVT8-00428-00105886-00106483 from pues perspective E19HsTlAVT8-00429-00106484-00106741 pretty close I mean it's like basically E19HsTlAVT8-00430-00106742-00106909 you could average those and get 53 ish E19HsTlAVT8-00431-00106910-00107582 percent women it's pretty if the E19HsTlAVT8-00432-00107583-00107789 percentage of Americans who entered male E19HsTlAVT8-00433-00107790-00108131 in this randomly sampled survey who then E19HsTlAVT8-00434-00108132-00108508 said they read Wikipedia that's what I E19HsTlAVT8-00435-00108509-00108634 meant by the numbers being confusing E19HsTlAVT8-00436-00108635-00109013 this is how they report them though so E19HsTlAVT8-00437-00109014-00109301 yeah it's actually pretty even if you E19HsTlAVT8-00438-00109302-00109534 can so just to put those in perspective E19HsTlAVT8-00439-00109535-00109711 I'm sorry put this in perspective E19HsTlAVT8-00440-00109713-00109864 there's a bunch of other discrepancies E19HsTlAVT8-00441-00109865-00110243 the demographic data to the Pew survey E19HsTlAVT8-00442-00110244-00110621 showed a fairly small shift as you cat E19HsTlAVT8-00443-00110622-00110758 people get older in terms of if they're E19HsTlAVT8-00444-00110759-00110951 likely to read Wikipedia the UN you E19HsTlAVT8-00445-00110952-00111419 study showed a huge drop off so what you E19HsTlAVT8-00446-00111420-00111638 can do is to exercise some data recovery E19HsTlAVT8-00447-00111639-00111983 with some statistics so you can the E19HsTlAVT8-00448-00111983-00112172 logistic propensity score for which I E19HsTlAVT8-00449-00112173-00112313 can't do it myself but I can give you E19HsTlAVT8-00450-00112314-00112441 the paper and get make of source code in E19HsTlAVT8-00451-00112442-00112724 our but basically you model the non E19HsTlAVT8-00452-00112725-00112943 random selection you you make a E19HsTlAVT8-00453-00112944-00113284 sophistical model that says that if you E19HsTlAVT8-00454-00113285-00113543 were if you're an American the chances E19HsTlAVT8-00455-00113544-00113734 of the chances even that you opted into E19HsTlAVT8-00456-00113735-00114008 the Pew survey what is the chance based E19HsTlAVT8-00457-00114008-00114248 on this demographic data that you open E19HsTlAVT8-00458-00114249-00114572 yourself into the UN Youth Survey and E19HsTlAVT8-00459-00114573-00114784 you can use that to deskew these numbers E19HsTlAVT8-00460-00114785-00114985 so you see things looking a little E19HsTlAVT8-00461-00114986-00115463 better ah more Americans than we thought E19HsTlAVT8-00462-00115464-00115745 according to these figures are who are E19HsTlAVT8-00463-00115746-00115976 women are editing Wikipedia and these E19HsTlAVT8-00464-00115977-00116225 are percentages of these are percentages E19HsTlAVT8-00465-00116226-00116624 of the editor base these are much more E19HsTlAVT8-00466-00116625-00116935 like I think the foundation set a goal E19HsTlAVT8-00467-00116936-00117343 of 25 percent or maybe thirty percent in E19HsTlAVT8-00468-00117344-00117664 2011 and so make a maker found himself E19HsTlAVT8-00469-00117665-00117934 bemused to say that just by fixing up E19HsTlAVT8-00470-00117935-00118141 the data they have gotten a large E19HsTlAVT8-00471-00118142-00118477 fraction of the way there which is E19HsTlAVT8-00472-00118478-00118660 another way of saying that they were E19HsTlAVT8-00473-00118661-00118982 unable to make a reasonable plan without E19HsTlAVT8-00474-00118983-00119195 knowing the real facts underlying their E19HsTlAVT8-00475-00119196-00119704 community so another interesting another E19HsTlAVT8-00476-00119705-00119870 interesting angle about Wikipedia E19HsTlAVT8-00477-00119871-00120088 is that another option in that opt-in E19HsTlAVT8-00478-00120089-00120383 assault often survey in 2011 seventy E19HsTlAVT8-00479-00120383-00120545 percent of Wikipedia editors say that E19HsTlAVT8-00480-00120546-00120695 when people give them a barn star which E19HsTlAVT8-00481-00120696-00120904 is a image that gets posted onto your E19HsTlAVT8-00482-00120905-00121151 user talk page it makes them more likely E19HsTlAVT8-00483-00121152-00121595 to make an edit but Mako and Earnshaw E19HsTlAVT8-00484-00121596-00121879 did some different distinct research not E19HsTlAVT8-00485-00121880-00122146 on what people say but what they do and E19HsTlAVT8-00486-00122147-00122444 if you measure the edit rate in the five E19HsTlAVT8-00487-00122445-00122618 weeks after people receive a barn star E19HsTlAVT8-00488-00122619-00122902 you find that there's two categories of E19HsTlAVT8-00489-00122903-00123163 people but net people decrease reading E19HsTlAVT8-00490-00123164-00123425 at editing activity by about 1.72 edits E19HsTlAVT8-00491-00123426-00123707 per week but there's this very clear E19HsTlAVT8-00492-00123708-00123872 distinction you can draw which is that E19HsTlAVT8-00493-00123873-00124111 so bar starts get put on your user talk E19HsTlAVT8-00494-00124113-00124504 page and people who are totally aware of E19HsTlAVT8-00495-00124505-00124721 how Wikipedia user-to-user chat works E19HsTlAVT8-00496-00124722-00124951 will know and will read the text that E19HsTlAVT8-00497-00124952-00125104 says just cut and paste this blob of E19HsTlAVT8-00498-00125105-00125306 wiki text from the other talk page into E19HsTlAVT8-00499-00125307-00125513 your user page to like be so proud about E19HsTlAVT8-00500-00125514-00125734 your newborn star or at least remove it E19HsTlAVT8-00501-00125735-00125914 from your user talk page the people who E19HsTlAVT8-00502-00125915-00126293 moved or removed the bronze star serve E19HsTlAVT8-00503-00126294-00126476 themselves as doing three more edits per E19HsTlAVT8-00504-00126477-00126658 week for the next five weeks and that E19HsTlAVT8-00505-00126659-00127258 didn't remove it do less so exactly E19HsTlAVT8-00506-00127259-00127388 where the close ally lies isn't clear E19HsTlAVT8-00507-00127389-00127763 but you can't rationally say despite the E19HsTlAVT8-00508-00127764-00127874 seventy percent number we saw before E19HsTlAVT8-00509-00127875-00128134 that handing out more barn stars as E19HsTlAVT8-00510-00128135-00128326 tokens of appreciation on Wikipedia is E19HsTlAVT8-00511-00128327-00128645 going to you know save the graph that we E19HsTlAVT8-00512-00128646-00128788 some of us all talked about earlier E19HsTlAVT8-00513-00128789-00129269 today and that's important knowledge if E19HsTlAVT8-00514-00129270-00129415 what you're trying to do is get more E19HsTlAVT8-00515-00129416-00129563 people to edit Wikipedia or get them to E19HsTlAVT8-00516-00129564-00129751 make more edits to Wikipedia there's E19HsTlAVT8-00517-00129752-00129958 another subtlety in the paper which you E19HsTlAVT8-00518-00129959-00130204 can find by searching for this except I E19HsTlAVT8-00519-00130205-00130615 said the same word twice there's a E19HsTlAVT8-00520-00130616-00131698 subtlety where if you E19HsTlAVT8-00521-00131699-00131996 whatever I've lost its finding you saw E19HsTlAVT8-00522-00131997-00132353 me the paper all right the subtlety is E19HsTlAVT8-00523-00132354-00132695 that it depends the there's a big E19HsTlAVT8-00524-00132696-00132913 question bigger effect than this on E19HsTlAVT8-00525-00132914-00133169 whether getting a bar star increases or E19HsTlAVT8-00526-00133170-00133334 decreases your editing activity and that E19HsTlAVT8-00527-00133335-00133843 effect is who gave you the barn star and E19HsTlAVT8-00528-00133844-00134105 however there was a follow-up study done E19HsTlAVT8-00529-00134106-00134264 by totally other people who just sort of E19HsTlAVT8-00530-00134265-00134459 sprayed barn stars on people's user E19HsTlAVT8-00531-00134460-00134984 pages randomly they wrote a bot they E19HsTlAVT8-00532-00134985-00135107 wrote a bob to just like thank people E19HsTlAVT8-00533-00135108-00135449 for no reason and this reminds me I E19HsTlAVT8-00534-00135450-00135653 guess of an adage that's somewhat E19HsTlAVT8-00535-00135654-00135818 offensive so I'll share it in person but E19HsTlAVT8-00536-00135819-00135998 basically they made it so that if you E19HsTlAVT8-00537-00135999-00136223 receive this objective appreciation you E19HsTlAVT8-00538-00136224-00136514 would know that you're being appreciated E19HsTlAVT8-00539-00136515-00136664 you would know what great thing you did E19HsTlAVT8-00540-00136665-00137024 even if the row button and in that study E19HsTlAVT8-00541-00137025-00137324 they found a slight total increase in E19HsTlAVT8-00542-00137325-00137570 energy from the people who received the E19HsTlAVT8-00543-00137571-00137705 bar stars although maker thinks that E19HsTlAVT8-00544-00137706-00137867 they should have gotten human right a E19HsTlAVT8-00545-00137868-00138293 human subjects review board for that by E19HsTlAVT8-00546-00138294-00138521 experimenting on not only all these E19HsTlAVT8-00547-00138522-00138692 editors of Wikipedia but moreover E19HsTlAVT8-00548-00138693-00138869 editing on us the readers of Wikipedia E19HsTlAVT8-00549-00138870-00139040 because they're possibly ruining the E19HsTlAVT8-00550-00139041-00139304 encyclopedia for all of us and they E19HsTlAVT8-00551-00139305-00139625 didn't but whatever anyway inspired by a E19HsTlAVT8-00552-00139626-00139820 bunch of these a bunch of these E19HsTlAVT8-00553-00139821-00139928 demographic studies and especially E19HsTlAVT8-00554-00139929-00140090 inspired by some of the distressing E19HsTlAVT8-00555-00140091-00140321 early work with the opt-in surveys on E19HsTlAVT8-00556-00140322-00140564 the local on the low gender diversity E19HsTlAVT8-00557-00140565-00140861 breakdown in Wikipedia the community E19HsTlAVT8-00558-00140862-00141095 managers that wikihow decided to run E19HsTlAVT8-00559-00141096-00141365 their own stuff survey so they're E19HsTlAVT8-00560-00141366-00141464 showing a method all day looked a bit E19HsTlAVT8-00561-00141465-00141706 different for one thing they they E19HsTlAVT8-00562-00141707-00142028 watched wikihow for three weeks and days E19HsTlAVT8-00563-00142029-00142187 just looked at who were the a cadet E19HsTlAVT8-00564-00142188-00142405 atures so they didn't have as much of E19HsTlAVT8-00565-00142406-00142703 opt-in sample bias I think but moreover E19HsTlAVT8-00566-00142704-00143053 they were able to quantify that bias the E19HsTlAVT8-00567-00143054-00143417 Christie christle christle sent them a E19HsTlAVT8-00568-00143418-00143531 talk page message which is the standard E19HsTlAVT8-00569-00143532-00143762 user to user chat system inside the wiki E19HsTlAVT8-00570-00143763-00144005 software and she knows how many people E19HsTlAVT8-00571-00144006-00144329 were supposed to respond which at least E19HsTlAVT8-00572-00144330-00144575 means that which you know things can E19HsTlAVT8-00573-00144576-00144794 convene can't possibly be twice as bad E19HsTlAVT8-00574-00144795-00145228 as they look in her study and I these E19HsTlAVT8-00575-00145229-00145343 were sent by the wikihow community E19HsTlAVT8-00576-00145344-00145453 manager would problem which a lot of E19HsTlAVT8-00577-00145454-00145583 people home wiki have interact with so E19HsTlAVT8-00578-00145584-00145741 hopefully they're inclined to answer her E19HsTlAVT8-00579-00145742-00146048 and according to her results fifty-six E19HsTlAVT8-00580-00146049-00146318 percent or female the majority Pakeha E19HsTlAVT8-00581-00146319-00146524 editors according to this survey are E19HsTlAVT8-00582-00146525-00146918 like teenagers younger than 16 with E19HsTlAVT8-00583-00146919-00147122 intriguing and not something that she E19HsTlAVT8-00584-00147123-00147449 was considering at all now on the other E19HsTlAVT8-00585-00147450-00147749 hand oh yeah they and the older E19HsTlAVT8-00586-00147750-00147865 contributor is more likely they are to E19HsTlAVT8-00587-00147866-00148424 be male I want to narrow bit on this E19HsTlAVT8-00588-00148425-00148579 notion here the older contributors E19HsTlAVT8-00589-00148580-00148813 tended to email wikihow with this graph E19HsTlAVT8-00590-00148814-00149050 embedded do it I have a mouse this is E19HsTlAVT8-00591-00149051-00149468 great so ah she actually broke down E19HsTlAVT8-00592-00149469-00149945 people in based on how active editors E19HsTlAVT8-00593-00149946-00150257 they are and the in this in if you E19HsTlAVT8-00594-00150258-00150593 imagine this pipeline where there's more E19HsTlAVT8-00595-00150594-00150823 new editors for women than who are men E19HsTlAVT8-00596-00150824-00151162 these are sorted by something crazy E19HsTlAVT8-00597-00151163-00151453 ignore the sort so if they'd get to the E19HsTlAVT8-00598-00151454-00151646 point of doing 25 plus edits the huge E19HsTlAVT8-00599-00151647-00151868 drop-off right from this male heavy E19HsTlAVT8-00600-00151869-00152021 perspective from this female heavy E19HsTlAVT8-00601-00152022-00152338 perspective why so few do they make it E19HsTlAVT8-00602-00152339-00152621 through here now admittedly there she's E19HsTlAVT8-00603-00152622-00152815 still missing about half the users but E19HsTlAVT8-00604-00152816-00153119 this is a pretty helpful graph because E19HsTlAVT8-00605-00153120-00153236 it suggests that there might be E19HsTlAVT8-00606-00153237-00153487 something that matters to some classic E19HsTlAVT8-00607-00153488-00153650 users about the Edit interface it E19HsTlAVT8-00608-00153651-00154014 doesn't matter other class of users and E19HsTlAVT8-00609-00154015-00154651 then as you get more and more like I E19HsTlAVT8-00610-00154652-00154813 mean I think that basically these ratios E19HsTlAVT8-00611-00154814-00155014 are the same so I think almost all the E19HsTlAVT8-00612-00155015-00155171 drop-off occurs in this range here I E19HsTlAVT8-00613-00155172-00155329 don't know why but on the other hand E19HsTlAVT8-00614-00155330-00155471 maybe it all maybe it just means that E19HsTlAVT8-00615-00155472-00155735 they're like 12 year olds who sign up E19HsTlAVT8-00616-00155736-00156138 who are mostly women mostly donated much E19HsTlAVT8-00617-00156139-00156407 the one their makeup had some E19HsTlAVT8-00618-00156408-00156548 suggestions for how to improve this E19HsTlAVT8-00619-00156549-00156998 survey for one thing wikihow so one E19HsTlAVT8-00620-00156999-00157240 thing we don't know is we know that we E19HsTlAVT8-00621-00157241-00157500 do know that about fifty two percent of E19HsTlAVT8-00622-00157501-00157724 editors opted into the study but we E19HsTlAVT8-00623-00157725-00157910 can't currently characterize the bias of E19HsTlAVT8-00624-00157911-00158045 the fifty percent or so that we're E19HsTlAVT8-00625-00158046-00158104 missing E19HsTlAVT8-00626-00158105-00158326 one thing you can do is to ask readers E19HsTlAVT8-00627-00158327-00158473 of the site to fill out the same study E19HsTlAVT8-00628-00158474-00158645 and maybe randomly ask evaders don't E19HsTlAVT8-00629-00158646-00158863 necessarily ask all of them but this way E19HsTlAVT8-00630-00158864-00159146 you can get a sense of of humans in the E19HsTlAVT8-00631-00159147-00159356 planet how likely are they to answer E19HsTlAVT8-00632-00159357-00159632 surveys and how does that breakdown E19HsTlAVT8-00633-00159633-00159869 based on gender or age and then you E19HsTlAVT8-00634-00159870-00159986 could do the same sort of thing yeah my E19HsTlAVT8-00635-00159987-00160548 bike helmets getting soaked um great E19HsTlAVT8-00636-00160549-00161186 we're in the same boat exactly so yeah E19HsTlAVT8-00637-00161187-00161306 so then you then you could fix up the E19HsTlAVT8-00638-00161307-00161587 survey result in a similar fashion but E19HsTlAVT8-00639-00161588-00161749 you know it's kind of shocking that E19HsTlAVT8-00640-00161750-00161972 fifty percent of survey respondents were E19HsTlAVT8-00641-00161973-00162388 under 15 ha crystal was pretty confused E19HsTlAVT8-00642-00162389-00162625 about this too you know so maybe it's E19HsTlAVT8-00643-00162626-00162857 actually that there's a huge bias where E19HsTlAVT8-00644-00162858-00162968 young people are more willing to answer E19HsTlAVT8-00645-00162969-00163264 surveys similarly a question I had for E19HsTlAVT8-00646-00163265-00163411 her which Walter to address in a talk I E19HsTlAVT8-00647-00163412-00163658 saw by her at Wikimedia a year ago was E19HsTlAVT8-00648-00163659-00163798 the question of which of these fields E19HsTlAVT8-00649-00163799-00164137 were mandatory and perhaps people who E19HsTlAVT8-00650-00164138-00164297 are new editors are more likely to fill E19HsTlAVT8-00651-00164298-00164503 out the survey because they just like E19HsTlAVT8-00652-00164504-00164681 love being involved in the community and E19HsTlAVT8-00653-00164682-00164909 are really trying to get a foothold or E19HsTlAVT8-00654-00164910-00165044 maybe it's the opposite and maybe this E19HsTlAVT8-00655-00165045-00165269 is all worse than if she got back and E19HsTlAVT8-00656-00165270-00165509 the reason to know is so that when you E19HsTlAVT8-00657-00165510-00165673 make a change like a changing the way E19HsTlAVT8-00658-00165674-00165862 the interface works or sending more E19HsTlAVT8-00659-00165863-00166039 personalized messages to people you can E19HsTlAVT8-00660-00166040-00166315 answer the question of you know is our E19HsTlAVT8-00661-00166316-00166559 children learning are the are the E19HsTlAVT8-00662-00166560-00166699 contributor is becoming more active E19HsTlAVT8-00663-00166700-00166823 which is what you wanted in the first E19HsTlAVT8-00664-00166824-00167062 place I did talk to her after that and I E19HsTlAVT8-00665-00167063-00167275 got some answer to these questions so of E19HsTlAVT8-00666-00167276-00167560 the people who fill out the survey these E19HsTlAVT8-00667-00167561-00167860 are the missing groups generals required E19HsTlAVT8-00668-00167861-00168063 field but twenty percent of respondents E19HsTlAVT8-00669-00168064-00168513 just didn't answer about their age and E19HsTlAVT8-00670-00168514-00168821 we don't know if maybe seeing gender E19HsTlAVT8-00671-00168822-00169011 cause people to just close the survey E19HsTlAVT8-00672-00169012-00169315 and we don't know which editing levels E19HsTlAVT8-00673-00169316-00169682 were more and less likely to enter you E19HsTlAVT8-00674-00169683-00169946 could get a sense of this one by having E19HsTlAVT8-00675-00169947-00170464 her oh this one you can figure out from E19HsTlAVT8-00676-00170465-00170609 the data she has because she has all the E19HsTlAVT8-00677-00170610-00170720 usernames and she can generate those E19HsTlAVT8-00678-00170721-00170918 graphs for all the people who didn't E19HsTlAVT8-00679-00170919-00171323 answer and like add some cute error bars E19HsTlAVT8-00680-00171324-00171386 to those E19HsTlAVT8-00681-00171387-00171977 wraps so that's wikihow that's one place E19HsTlAVT8-00682-00171978-00172208 it's a slightly freely licensed E19HsTlAVT8-00683-00172209-00172391 encyclopedia it's not really open source E19HsTlAVT8-00684-00172392-00172949 software project there's one topic that E19HsTlAVT8-00685-00172950-00173104 the gauche survey try to touch on is why E19HsTlAVT8-00686-00173105-00173276 do they bother why do people contribute E19HsTlAVT8-00687-00173277-00173732 to open source so there's this lovely E19HsTlAVT8-00688-00173733-00173969 graph made bud Thunderbird team through E19HsTlAVT8-00689-00173970-00174167 an opt-in survey and according to the E19HsTlAVT8-00690-00174168-00174299 Thunderbird if you can see this the E19HsTlAVT8-00691-00174300-00174524 plurality reason to contribute a E19HsTlAVT8-00692-00174525-00174671 Thunderbird is to have my efforts help E19HsTlAVT8-00693-00174672-00174836 millions of people but it's pretty E19HsTlAVT8-00694-00174837-00175116 different from the ghosts enter of E19HsTlAVT8-00695-00175117-00175406 people join my project probably to learn E19HsTlAVT8-00696-00175407-00175691 new things so if you're the Thunderbird E19HsTlAVT8-00697-00175692-00175973 team this suggests that you should put E19HsTlAVT8-00698-00175974-00176168 this front and center on your new E19HsTlAVT8-00699-00176169-00176381 contributor documentation you're helping E19HsTlAVT8-00700-00176382-00176513 millions of people and you shouldn't E19HsTlAVT8-00701-00176514-00176666 necessarily spend all that much energy E19HsTlAVT8-00702-00176667-00176981 on learning new skills because if E19HsTlAVT8-00703-00176982-00177170 anywhere that shows up somewhere out E19HsTlAVT8-00704-00177171-00177464 here alternatively you could believe E19HsTlAVT8-00705-00177465-00177671 that the people who just want to show up E19HsTlAVT8-00706-00177672-00177839 and learn your skills try to contribute E19HsTlAVT8-00707-00177840-00178073 to Thunderbird fall off this massive E19HsTlAVT8-00708-00178074-00178370 sheets steep on-ramp veer off to the E19HsTlAVT8-00709-00178371-00178523 side and don't get a grounder filling E19HsTlAVT8-00710-00178524-00178862 out the survey but at least what I hope E19HsTlAVT8-00711-00178863-00179093 you'll see is that different communities E19HsTlAVT8-00712-00179094-00179282 have the people in different communities E19HsTlAVT8-00713-00179283-00179384 have different rationales for E19HsTlAVT8-00714-00179385-00179645 participating so knowing the broad sense E19HsTlAVT8-00715-00179646-00179759 of it from the academics will E19HsTlAVT8-00716-00179760-00180241 necessarily help you and in fact you E19HsTlAVT8-00717-00180242-00180371 don't even really know what will cause E19HsTlAVT8-00718-00180372-00180632 people to change to do more work unless E19HsTlAVT8-00719-00180633-00181237 you run some experiments so a mouse a E19HsTlAVT8-00720-00181238-00181559 mouse E19HsTlAVT8-00721-00181560-00181903 so these have all been about surveys E19HsTlAVT8-00722-00181904-00182090 where people fill in information in two E19HsTlAVT8-00723-00182091-00182225 forms they try to tell you who they are E19HsTlAVT8-00724-00182226-00182387 and what they can do with a little bit E19HsTlAVT8-00725-00182388-00182615 of backing work to learn more about the E19HsTlAVT8-00726-00182616-00182771 respondents to the survey but if we E19HsTlAVT8-00727-00182772-00182897 won't we want to know is how do we make E19HsTlAVT8-00728-00182898-00183077 our communities more active maybe we E19HsTlAVT8-00729-00183078-00183221 should try running some experiments and E19HsTlAVT8-00730-00183222-00183458 see if we call more activity so i think E19HsTlAVT8-00731-00183459-00183734 that the kinoma ms outreach project in a E19HsTlAVT8-00732-00183735-00183899 way is the first free software E19HsTlAVT8-00733-00183900-00184223 behavioral study that i know in 2005 the E19HsTlAVT8-00734-00184224-00184850 genome foundation received yeah at the E19HsTlAVT8-00735-00184851-00185132 end 2006 initially they had received of E19HsTlAVT8-00736-00185133-00185393 181 applicants for google Summer of Code E19HsTlAVT8-00737-00185394-00185576 can even guess what percentage of these E19HsTlAVT8-00738-00185577-00186326 were men 90 something actually is 100 E19HsTlAVT8-00739-00186327-00186676 plain old 100 literally zero sorry ah E19HsTlAVT8-00740-00186677-00187151 yeah it sounds really bad but it's E19HsTlAVT8-00741-00187152-00187337 really just a matter of sample bias you E19HsTlAVT8-00742-00187338-00187607 can consider the sign in the deform to E19HsTlAVT8-00743-00187608-00187799 apply to google Summer of Code kind of E19HsTlAVT8-00744-00187800-00187982 like these opt-in surveys where the E19HsTlAVT8-00745-00187983-00188102 information gets spread through random E19HsTlAVT8-00746-00188103-00188329 channels there's some process by which E19HsTlAVT8-00747-00188330-00188462 people learn about the program at all E19HsTlAVT8-00748-00188463-00188786 and if you do something like start the E19HsTlAVT8-00749-00188787-00189131 same the very same event with the same E19HsTlAVT8-00750-00189132-00189332 structure of paying students to work on E19HsTlAVT8-00751-00189333-00189689 code in genome with the process of being E19HsTlAVT8-00752-00189690-00189851 mentored by a module owner over the E19HsTlAVT8-00753-00189852-00190139 course the summer you can have very E19HsTlAVT8-00754-00190140-00190313 different results you can have 100 new E19HsTlAVT8-00755-00190314-00190603 applicants to your knots google summer E19HsTlAVT8-00756-00190604-00190808 of code but women suffer women summer E19HsTlAVT8-00757-00190809-00191266 outreach program I'm just like blown E19HsTlAVT8-00758-00191267-00191589 away by this because what a great job E19HsTlAVT8-00759-00191590-00191837 Hannah and Chris did of running a E19HsTlAVT8-00760-00191838-00192004 behavioral study where they altered the E19HsTlAVT8-00761-00192005-00192259 text around the very same activity and E19HsTlAVT8-00762-00192260-00192454 totally blew the old results out of the E19HsTlAVT8-00763-00192455-00192691 water yeah it's the very same model of E19HsTlAVT8-00764-00192692-00192845 google Summer of Code summer funding E19HsTlAVT8-00765-00192846-00192962 with the same amount they got their E19HsTlAVT8-00766-00192963-00193090 money from companies at one to support E19HsTlAVT8-00767-00193091-00193283 genome are not Google in that case at E19HsTlAVT8-00768-00193284-00193547 the time but Google is supported more E19HsTlAVT8-00769-00193548-00193954 recent versions of this program if you E19HsTlAVT8-00770-00193955-00194152 had just surveyed the 121 people who E19HsTlAVT8-00771-00194153-00194306 applied I mean obviously you would find E19HsTlAVT8-00772-00194307-00194519 zero women and things you would know E19HsTlAVT8-00773-00194520-00194684 about how they found out about that E19HsTlAVT8-00774-00194685-00194890 particular google Summer of Code E19HsTlAVT8-00775-00194891-00195164 wouldn't apply to the other people you E19HsTlAVT8-00776-00195165-00195539 want to include in the first place so E19HsTlAVT8-00777-00195540-00195740 once there are some things we don't yet E19HsTlAVT8-00778-00195741-00196143 know about oh yeah there's something we E19HsTlAVT8-00779-00196144-00196335 don't yet know about the women summer E19HsTlAVT8-00780-00196336-00196703 outreach program so we don't know if E19HsTlAVT8-00781-00196704-00196833 these community members stick around E19HsTlAVT8-00782-00196834-00197049 more or less in the community there's a E19HsTlAVT8-00783-00197050-00197235 bit of work going on by Kevin Carrillo E19HsTlAVT8-00784-00197236-00197429 to survey newcomers in open source E19HsTlAVT8-00785-00197430-00197697 communities and find out what makes E19HsTlAVT8-00786-00197698-00197862 their experience more and less good and E19HsTlAVT8-00787-00197863-00198048 do some other work behind the scenes to E19HsTlAVT8-00788-00198049-00198414 find out if they stick around but his E19HsTlAVT8-00789-00198415-00198651 survey was an opt-in survey so we'll E19HsTlAVT8-00790-00198652-00199050 have some limited insight from it but E19HsTlAVT8-00791-00199051-00199287 still we can begin to ask these E19HsTlAVT8-00792-00199288-00199587 questions and maybe by knowing the E19HsTlAVT8-00793-00199588-00199754 answers to this we can break them down E19HsTlAVT8-00794-00199755-00199991 and say oh actually there's this E19HsTlAVT8-00795-00199992-00200193 particular University there's particular E19HsTlAVT8-00796-00200194-00200489 universities in Romania and in Arkansas E19HsTlAVT8-00797-00200490-00200777 where contributors have a huge retention E19HsTlAVT8-00798-00200778-00201006 rate and then we discover may be that E19HsTlAVT8-00799-00201007-00201186 all those people went to open source E19HsTlAVT8-00800-00201187-00201423 classes in their universities and then E19HsTlAVT8-00801-00201424-00201597 that's the answer of how to get more E19HsTlAVT8-00802-00201598-00201827 women applying to some ravaged program E19HsTlAVT8-00803-00201828-00202253 who stick around I can imagine a E19HsTlAVT8-00804-00202254-00202978 hypothetical behavioral study thanks so E19HsTlAVT8-00805-00202979-00203199 this is sort of how behavioral studies E19HsTlAVT8-00806-00203200-00203378 are supposed to work where if you had E19HsTlAVT8-00807-00203379-00203562 this enormous population you don't need E19HsTlAVT8-00808-00203563-00203729 all that many of them 200 is actually E19HsTlAVT8-00809-00203730-00203939 already plenty 50 is probably already E19HsTlAVT8-00810-00203940-00204096 plenty so long as you sample them E19HsTlAVT8-00811-00204097-00204443 randomly you find out who they are E19HsTlAVT8-00812-00204444-00204716 preferably but we will you find out who E19HsTlAVT8-00813-00204717-00204935 they are after you've randomly sampled E19HsTlAVT8-00814-00204936-00205085 and then you can make statements about E19HsTlAVT8-00815-00205086-00205334 how the gender breakdown the demographic E19HsTlAVT8-00816-00205335-00205527 breakdown occurs in that community as a E19HsTlAVT8-00817-00205528-00205656 whole because you know you didn't E19HsTlAVT8-00818-00205657-00205832 introduce new bias when you selected E19HsTlAVT8-00819-00205833-00206171 them and if you wanted to do this on E19HsTlAVT8-00820-00206173-00206429 github for example then you might have a E19HsTlAVT8-00821-00206430-00206840 sense of how active and inactive how E19HsTlAVT8-00822-00206841-00207000 presents are not present various E19HsTlAVT8-00823-00207001-00207158 demographic groups are in the free E19HsTlAVT8-00824-00207159-00207311 software community so I think that this E19HsTlAVT8-00825-00207312-00207552 rather than the opt-in survey would be E19HsTlAVT8-00826-00207553-00207785 the tool to use to find out the current E19HsTlAVT8-00827-00207786-00207944 state and maybe do it again every other E19HsTlAVT8-00828-00207946-00208261 year to track the progress up or down E19HsTlAVT8-00829-00208262-00208782 hopefully up so yeah if we want to find E19HsTlAVT8-00830-00208783-00208913 out the real demographics I think this E19HsTlAVT8-00831-00208914-00209055 is the way to do it an opt-in surveys E19HsTlAVT8-00832-00209056-00209307 just aren't going to work I want to tell E19HsTlAVT8-00833-00209308-00209444 you now about a couple of things that E19HsTlAVT8-00834-00209446-00209669 I've been involved in I'll go also after E19HsTlAVT8-00835-00209671-00209778 this one a little bit cuz I talked about E19HsTlAVT8-00836-00209779-00209955 it a bit earlier today I talked about E19HsTlAVT8-00837-00209956-00210296 almost everywhere I go I guess but at in E19HsTlAVT8-00838-00210298-00210507 2010 I ran the first open source comes E19HsTlAVT8-00839-00210508-00210714 to campus event to help teach undergrads E19HsTlAVT8-00840-00210715-00210848 in this case at the University of E19HsTlAVT8-00841-00210850-00211017 Pennsylvania how to get involved in free E19HsTlAVT8-00842-00211017-00211365 software and we didn't do any particular E19HsTlAVT8-00843-00211366-00211592 gender diversity seeking outreach we E19HsTlAVT8-00844-00211594-00211731 just wrote a really friendly email to E19HsTlAVT8-00845-00211732-00211935 all computer science students and we got E19HsTlAVT8-00846-00211936-00212139 thirty percent of our applicants as E19HsTlAVT8-00847-00212140-00212348 women based on looking at their names E19HsTlAVT8-00848-00212350-00212688 and guessing and I think that a lot of E19HsTlAVT8-00849-00212689-00212880 that has to do with kind of a more E19HsTlAVT8-00850-00212881-00213017 subtle version of what Hannah and Chris E19HsTlAVT8-00851-00213019-00213279 found which is that the way you phrase E19HsTlAVT8-00852-00213280-00213426 things even if you don't necessarily say E19HsTlAVT8-00853-00213427-00213600 women at all makes a big difference in E19HsTlAVT8-00854-00213601-00213923 your response rates not in these figures E19HsTlAVT8-00855-00213925-00214157 is the fact that the majority of our E19HsTlAVT8-00856-00214158-00214350 applicants and then attendees were E19HsTlAVT8-00857-00214351-00214515 freshmen and sophomores in college so E19HsTlAVT8-00858-00214516-00214701 maybe only freshmen and sophomores are E19HsTlAVT8-00859-00214702-00214829 interested in learning new things I E19HsTlAVT8-00860-00214830-00215192 wouldn't put it past that but I think we E19HsTlAVT8-00861-00215194-00215484 don't know is if we've had an impact all E19HsTlAVT8-00862-00215485-00215802 the students who came I actually chatted E19HsTlAVT8-00863-00215803-00215904 with some of them with one of them E19HsTlAVT8-00864-00215905-00216063 recently by email catching up about E19HsTlAVT8-00865-00216064-00216189 something else and she said oh I E19HsTlAVT8-00866-00216190-00216381 remember so fondly that event and that's E19HsTlAVT8-00867-00216382-00216600 good but you know i'd like to know E19HsTlAVT8-00868-00216601-00216858 something like i'd like to be able to E19HsTlAVT8-00869-00216859-00217155 answer the question how many thousand E19HsTlAVT8-00870-00217156-00217311 open source comes to campus events need E19HsTlAVT8-00871-00217312-00217530 to get run every year to fix the gender E19HsTlAVT8-00872-00217531-00217740 gap in free software because then we E19HsTlAVT8-00873-00217741-00217905 would just run that many and then we'd E19HsTlAVT8-00874-00217906-00218256 be done super easy right but we don't E19HsTlAVT8-00875-00218257-00218475 know if we have we're not tracking yet E19HsTlAVT8-00876-00218476-00218655 if these contributors are sticking E19HsTlAVT8-00877-00218656-00218910 around in free software communities so I E19HsTlAVT8-00878-00218911-00219108 think the best way to do that is to take E19HsTlAVT8-00879-00219109-00219378 github profile IDs from the people who E19HsTlAVT8-00880-00219379-00219585 show up to the events and complete in E19HsTlAVT8-00881-00219586-00219773 show up to the events and track them E19HsTlAVT8-00882-00219775-00219960 over time and then you can say something E19HsTlAVT8-00883-00219961-00220188 like well people who come to open source E19HsTlAVT8-00884-00220189-00220367 comes to campus events that are run with E19HsTlAVT8-00885-00220369-00220611 a women in computing group seem to be E19HsTlAVT8-00886-00220612-00220823 thirty-five percent more likely to be E19HsTlAVT8-00887-00220825-00221334 this much more active on github and then E19HsTlAVT8-00888-00221335-00221475 you can also very clearly say that E19HsTlAVT8-00889-00221476-00221633 you're impacting the luminous yes E19HsTlAVT8-00890-00221634-00222032 groups as well there's a there's a topic E19HsTlAVT8-00891-00222033-00222221 I often talk about I'll breathe through E19HsTlAVT8-00892-00222222-00222446 it here but basically relative in San E19HsTlAVT8-00893-00222447-00222687 Francisco once saw this graph two E19HsTlAVT8-00894-00222688-00222888 percent women ninety-eight percent men E19HsTlAVT8-00895-00222889-00223191 and they saw the graph which is to say E19HsTlAVT8-00896-00223192-00223358 Sarah Mae and Sarah Allen looked around E19HsTlAVT8-00897-00223359-00223576 the room and found only each other and E19HsTlAVT8-00898-00223577-00223826 they decided to run a bunch of they E19HsTlAVT8-00899-00223827-00223965 decide to stage an intervention the E19HsTlAVT8-00900-00223966-00224201 intervention was let's run introductory E19HsTlAVT8-00901-00224202-00224327 programming workshops for women and E19HsTlAVT8-00902-00224328-00224482 their friends called railsbridge and E19HsTlAVT8-00903-00224483-00224732 within a year they moved that they moved E19HsTlAVT8-00904-00224733-00224930 the user group forward by sampling at E19HsTlAVT8-00905-00224931-00225356 the events to eighteen percent which is E19HsTlAVT8-00906-00225357-00225696 a super great result and so seem like E19HsTlAVT8-00907-00225696-00225830 the kind of thing that I wanted to clone E19HsTlAVT8-00908-00225831-00226044 to see if I could be produced to work I E19HsTlAVT8-00909-00226044-00226290 could and there's been a whole bunch of E19HsTlAVT8-00910-00226291-00226550 spin-off events we're doing this new E19HsTlAVT8-00911-00226551-00226673 thing at open house called open hatch E19HsTlAVT8-00912-00226674-00226850 affiliated events where anyone who's E19HsTlAVT8-00913-00226851-00227105 running gender diversity or general E19HsTlAVT8-00914-00227106-00227273 newcomer friendliness event we'd love it E19HsTlAVT8-00915-00227274-00227544 if you would go to a wiki page called E19HsTlAVT8-00916-00227544-00227792 open hatch affiliated events and read E19HsTlAVT8-00917-00227794-00227900 all the text there but all the great E19HsTlAVT8-00918-00227901-00228053 ways that you all can help each other E19HsTlAVT8-00919-00228054-00228323 and we can help you and run more events E19HsTlAVT8-00920-00228324-00228434 like these because I think that outreach E19HsTlAVT8-00921-00228435-00228632 events based on those figures are worth E19HsTlAVT8-00922-00228633-00229065 spending time on there are some E19HsTlAVT8-00923-00229066-00229194 limitations though it seems to only work E19HsTlAVT8-00924-00229194-00229392 in big cities it seems to only work if E19HsTlAVT8-00925-00229392-00229520 you can convince an existing user group E19HsTlAVT8-00926-00229521-00229781 that your plan is worth doing on the E19HsTlAVT8-00927-00229782-00229970 bright side we have these graphs so E19HsTlAVT8-00928-00229971-00230275 maybe that helps them get convinced so E19HsTlAVT8-00929-00230276-00230471 there are some changes we're working on E19HsTlAVT8-00930-00230472-00230582 with the open source comes to campus E19HsTlAVT8-00931-00230583-00230783 I'll skip over that because there's a E19HsTlAVT8-00932-00230784-00231059 couple things I want to focus on one is E19HsTlAVT8-00933-00231060-00231294 that is the answer to the question what E19HsTlAVT8-00934-00231294-00231509 do undergrad students seem to know when E19HsTlAVT8-00935-00231510-00231626 they show up to open source comes to E19HsTlAVT8-00936-00231627-00231884 campus are they already get experts who E19HsTlAVT8-00937-00231885-00232137 signs up for these things what is the E19HsTlAVT8-00938-00232138-00232358 impact on changing gender from a male E19HsTlAVT8-00939-00232359-00232667 female option box to just a plain text E19HsTlAVT8-00940-00232669-00232859 field and I'm sort of on the wrong side E19HsTlAVT8-00941-00232860-00233045 of history a year and a half ago or so I E19HsTlAVT8-00942-00233046-00233214 was saying on the events mailing list E19HsTlAVT8-00943-00233215-00233417 but I kind of really liked this male E19HsTlAVT8-00944-00233419-00233684 female mandatory radio button because E19HsTlAVT8-00945-00233685-00233846 then we could be sure that people had to E19HsTlAVT8-00946-00233847-00233948 fill it out and then we wouldn't have E19HsTlAVT8-00947-00233949-00234227 trouble analyzing the results but then E19HsTlAVT8-00948-00234228-00234363 it turns out we can make it a text field E19HsTlAVT8-00949-00234364-00234792 everyone replies great and the results E19HsTlAVT8-00950-00234792-00234923 so far we've had no complicated E19HsTlAVT8-00951-00234925-00235125 results to it and if we do then we just E19HsTlAVT8-00952-00235126-00235260 know that's the case and we haven't made E19HsTlAVT8-00953-00235261-00235866 any one unsafe I have a mailing list E19HsTlAVT8-00954-00235867-00236010 spread in which I eat my hat does that E19HsTlAVT8-00955-00236011-00236502 count okay yeah and it turns out that E19HsTlAVT8-00956-00236503-00236700 many students show up excited to learn E19HsTlAVT8-00957-00236701-00236892 get and most of the students at least at E19HsTlAVT8-00958-00236892-00237060 our events don't know about it now maybe E19HsTlAVT8-00959-00237061-00237255 we have some sample bias because if they E19HsTlAVT8-00960-00237256-00237378 already knew it maybe they wouldn't sign E19HsTlAVT8-00961-00237379-00237816 up for this teaching event in the five E19HsTlAVT8-00962-00237817-00238146 ish minutes I have left for okay I E19HsTlAVT8-00963-00238146-00238448 wanted to touch on a few very active E19HsTlAVT8-00964-00238450-00238871 angles for actively attempting to modify E19HsTlAVT8-00965-00238873-00239406 free software communities so two years E19HsTlAVT8-00966-00239407-00239648 ago Dave nearing and Don Foster had E19HsTlAVT8-00967-00239650-00239871 worked on a project with miga as part of E19HsTlAVT8-00968-00239871-00240048 me go to track new contributors and E19HsTlAVT8-00969-00240048-00240248 contributors on the whole they ended up E19HsTlAVT8-00970-00240250-00240378 with a massive dashboard you can read E19HsTlAVT8-00971-00240379-00240854 about here it's an enormous ball of code E19HsTlAVT8-00972-00240855-00241260 and as far as I know no other projects E19HsTlAVT8-00973-00241261-00241431 have gotten around replicating it but it E19HsTlAVT8-00974-00241432-00241602 gives you this cool-looking dashboard E19HsTlAVT8-00975-00241603-00241836 from which you can do you can ask the E19HsTlAVT8-00976-00241837-00241998 beginnings of questions mostly I E19HsTlAVT8-00977-00241998-00242466 mentioned for completeness in 20 seconds E19HsTlAVT8-00978-00242467-00242676 I'll tell you that niceness matters when E19HsTlAVT8-00979-00242677-00242823 you communicate with users on a website E19HsTlAVT8-00980-00242823-00243159 like Wikipedia if you are if you E19HsTlAVT8-00981-00243160-00243384 consider changing the tone of a message E19HsTlAVT8-00982-00243385-00243603 they get sent to users when they've E19HsTlAVT8-00983-00243604-00244142 analyzed a page fewer the people who E19HsTlAVT8-00984-00244144-00244392 vandalized it by accident will become E19HsTlAVT8-00985-00244392-00244515 more of them will become positive E19HsTlAVT8-00986-00244516-00244728 contributors to your system rather than E19HsTlAVT8-00987-00244729-00245111 vanishing like they used to and E19HsTlAVT8-00988-00245112-00245466 similarly if you use the active voice E19HsTlAVT8-00989-00245467-00245601 they're more likely to take you E19HsTlAVT8-00990-00245602-00246144 seriously which is amazing wikipedia did E19HsTlAVT8-00991-00246144-00246321 an a/b tests on the automated messages E19HsTlAVT8-00992-00246321-00246723 that get sent to vandals but whatever E19HsTlAVT8-00993-00246723-00246917 there's some details that I'm not going E19HsTlAVT8-00994-00246919-00247050 to cover right now the media wiki E19HsTlAVT8-00995-00247051-00247407 project for september-october november E19HsTlAVT8-00996-00247408-00247650 and december have been trying to get E19HsTlAVT8-00997-00247651-00247806 more of a sense of its community using E19HsTlAVT8-00998-00247807-00248037 something like the amigo dashboard and i E19HsTlAVT8-00999-00248038-00248205 have some links in the slides to the E19HsTlAVT8-01000-00248206-00248319 tools that are using E19HsTlAVT8-01001-00248319-00248507 they haven't actually been updating that E19HsTlAVT8-01002-00248508-00248829 though I think you tell me Andre I think E19HsTlAVT8-01003-00248830-00249063 because it's not actual the results you E19HsTlAVT8-01004-00249064-00249201 get from these are just like this E19HsTlAVT8-01005-00249202-00249330 mailing list is more active but it E19HsTlAVT8-01006-00249331-00249501 doesn't tell you how to make a mailing E19HsTlAVT8-01007-00249502-00250082 list more active yeah yeah my theory for E19HsTlAVT8-01008-00250083-00250281 why you guys haven't been updating the E19HsTlAVT8-01009-00250282-00250460 the community metrics pages as E19HsTlAVT8-01010-00250461-00250602 frequently is that it doesn't give you E19HsTlAVT8-01011-00250603-00251738 information that you can act on okay E19HsTlAVT8-01012-00251739-00252105 okay well I'll rush over a couple of E19HsTlAVT8-01013-00252106-00252513 things and emphasize two one is the E19HsTlAVT8-01014-00252514-00252685 ability developer advisory team so E19HsTlAVT8-01015-00252686-00252923 there's this wiki page that contains all E19HsTlAVT8-01016-00252925-00253171 the following text hey guys we're gonna E19HsTlAVT8-01017-00253173-00253394 be really nice to our contributors and E19HsTlAVT8-01018-00253396-00253626 we have these three goals absorb we have E19HsTlAVT8-01019-00253627-00253767 these three goals to add up to being E19HsTlAVT8-01020-00253767-00253946 nice to people and when I see wiki pages E19HsTlAVT8-01021-00253948-00254115 like this in a prop open source project E19HsTlAVT8-01022-00254116-00254355 it reminds me of blog posts that say i'm E19HsTlAVT8-01023-00254356-00254471 going to start blogging again guys E19HsTlAVT8-01024-00254473-00254775 blogging was so much fun and if the last E19HsTlAVT8-01025-00254776-00254930 post on the blog and that was in 2009 E19HsTlAVT8-01026-00254931-00255317 and it turns out that the the developer E19HsTlAVT8-01027-00255319-00255462 advisory team is doing more than nothing E19HsTlAVT8-01028-00255463-00255798 they are doing an open-ended question E19HsTlAVT8-01029-00255798-00255963 set where they send them to new E19HsTlAVT8-01030-00255964-00256119 contributors they've learned a few E19HsTlAVT8-01031-00256119-00256314 things from that they do that once for E19HsTlAVT8-01032-00256315-00256548 six months has some opt-in bias but E19HsTlAVT8-01033-00256548-00256698 people seem to like contributing to E19HsTlAVT8-01034-00256698-00256880 admit which is pretty cool but what they E19HsTlAVT8-01035-00256881-00257021 really get excited what would they do E19HsTlAVT8-01036-00257023-00257241 that really excites me is every time a E19HsTlAVT8-01037-00257242-00257744 new contributor shows up to the E19HsTlAVT8-01038-00257746-00257976 community they create a Trello card and E19HsTlAVT8-01039-00257977-00258240 they have these columns there's a card E19HsTlAVT8-01040-00258241-00258392 with the person's name on it and the E19HsTlAVT8-01041-00258394-00258546 first column is just showed up to their E19HsTlAVT8-01042-00258546-00258671 first upload the next column is E19HsTlAVT8-01043-00258673-00258846 experienced contributor the next column E19HsTlAVT8-01044-00258846-00259017 is we should tell them to apply for E19HsTlAVT8-01045-00259017-00259181 developer status and the final column is E19HsTlAVT8-01046-00259182-00259344 we ask them to apply there in the queue E19HsTlAVT8-01047-00259344-00259665 and this sort of mentorship team goes E19HsTlAVT8-01048-00259666-00259967 and marks people as owned by them sends E19HsTlAVT8-01049-00259969-00260130 them a form email but it's fairly E19HsTlAVT8-01050-00260131-00260265 personalized errs hey thanks for doing E19HsTlAVT8-01051-00260266-00260403 something how can we make your life E19HsTlAVT8-01052-00260404-00260696 better so every event to contributor E19HsTlAVT8-01053-00260698-00260948 gets sent a personalized greeting and E19HsTlAVT8-01054-00260950-00261230 thank you ah because they're using E19HsTlAVT8-01055-00261231-00261410 automated tools to find out who these E19HsTlAVT8-01056-00261411-00261579 new contributors are they don't miss E19HsTlAVT8-01057-00261580-00261651 people E19HsTlAVT8-01058-00261652-00261921 and I won't demo it you'll have to be E19HsTlAVT8-01059-00261921-00262128 satisfied with my hand wavy version but E19HsTlAVT8-01060-00262129-00262287 the one question you might ask from all E19HsTlAVT8-01061-00262288-00262608 of this is it sounds super friendly but E19HsTlAVT8-01062-00262609-00262914 is it going to increase outcomes and it E19HsTlAVT8-01063-00262915-00263025 when she doesn't know that because they E19HsTlAVT8-01064-00263026-00263259 just did it for everyone I think you're E19HsTlAVT8-01065-00263260-00263391 about to tell me I have like 30 seconds E19HsTlAVT8-01066-00263392-00263838 left so people often lie to themselves E19HsTlAVT8-01067-00263839-00264087 and believe that free software it's so E19HsTlAVT8-01068-00264088-00264246 hard to get metrics how are we going to E19HsTlAVT8-01069-00264247-00264405 count how many people use debian there's E19HsTlAVT8-01070-00264406-00264651 mirrored all over the place we can't E19HsTlAVT8-01071-00264652-00264807 track where people click in diaspora E19HsTlAVT8-01072-00264808-00264939 because we're sensitive people's privacy E19HsTlAVT8-01073-00264940-00265143 the big ones fault or it's hard for E19HsTlAVT8-01074-00265144-00265320 volunteers which relates to a story that E19HsTlAVT8-01075-00265321-00265563 I've failed on within these slides what E19HsTlAVT8-01076-00265564-00265671 I will say is that there are a lot of E19HsTlAVT8-01077-00265672-00266121 metrics and this summer we have a google E19HsTlAVT8-01078-00266122-00266259 Summer of Code student who is cloning E19HsTlAVT8-01079-00266260-00266421 the developer advisory team to link E19HsTlAVT8-01080-00266422-00266613 first to translate it from Boone cedar 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E5bb50G40Ku-00018-00003728-00003911 super computing for E5bb50G40Ku-00019-00003911-00004135 many years and i have seen the coming of E5bb50G40Ku-00020-00004136-00004295 several milestones E5bb50G40Ku-00021-00004296-00004519 from you know actually i'm old enough to E5bb50G40Ku-00022-00004520-00004615 remember E5bb50G40Ku-00023-00004616-00004838 gigaflops uh coming through and E5bb50G40Ku-00024-00004839-00005079 teraflops and petaflops E5bb50G40Ku-00025-00005080-00005454 exascale is has been harder E5bb50G40Ku-00026-00005455-00005838 than many of us anticipated E5bb50G40Ku-00027-00005839-00006175 many years ago the E5bb50G40Ku-00028-00006176-00006510 sheer amount of technology E5bb50G40Ku-00029-00006511-00006855 that has been required to deliver E5bb50G40Ku-00030-00006856-00007087 machines of this performance E5bb50G40Ku-00031-00007088-00007342 has been has been us utterly staggering E5bb50G40Ku-00032-00007343-00007463 but E5bb50G40Ku-00033-00007464-00007791 the exascale era brings with it real E5bb50G40Ku-00034-00007792-00008078 solutions it gives us opportunities E5bb50G40Ku-00035-00008079-00008287 to do things that we've not been able to E5bb50G40Ku-00036-00008288-00008383 do before E5bb50G40Ku-00037-00008384-00008551 if you look at some of the the most E5bb50G40Ku-00038-00008552-00008719 powerful computers around E5bb50G40Ku-00039-00008720-00009135 today they've they've really helped with E5bb50G40Ku-00040-00009136-00009487 um the pandemic kovid but E5bb50G40Ku-00041-00009488-00009759 we're still you know orders of magnitude E5bb50G40Ku-00042-00009760-00009855 away E5bb50G40Ku-00043-00009856-00010159 from being able to E5bb50G40Ku-00044-00010160-00010471 design drugs in situ test them E5bb50G40Ku-00045-00010472-00010742 in memory and release them to the public E5bb50G40Ku-00046-00010743-00010895 you know we still have E5bb50G40Ku-00047-00010896-00011214 lots and lots of lab work to do E5bb50G40Ku-00048-00011215-00011527 and exascale machines E5bb50G40Ku-00049-00011528-00011863 are going to help with that we are going E5bb50G40Ku-00050-00011864-00012055 to be able to E5bb50G40Ku-00051-00012056-00012406 to do more um which ultimately will E5bb50G40Ku-00052-00012407-00012687 will aid humanity and they used to be E5bb50G40Ku-00053-00012688-00012751 called E5bb50G40Ku-00054-00012752-00013063 the grand challenges and i still think E5bb50G40Ku-00055-00013063-00013311 of them as that i still think of these E5bb50G40Ku-00056-00013312-00013615 challenges for scientists that E5bb50G40Ku-00057-00013616-00013999 exascale class machines will be able to E5bb50G40Ku-00058-00014000-00014119 help E5bb50G40Ku-00059-00014119-00014455 but also i'm a realist is that in E5bb50G40Ku-00060-00014456-00014822 10 20 30 years time E5bb50G40Ku-00061-00014823-00014951 you know i should be able to look back E5bb50G40Ku-00062-00014952-00015150 at this hopefully touch wood look back E5bb50G40Ku-00063-00015151-00015215 at it E5bb50G40Ku-00064-00015216-00015550 and look at much E5bb50G40Ku-00065-00015551-00015871 faster machines and say do you remember E5bb50G40Ku-00066-00015872-00016071 the days when we thought exascale was E5bb50G40Ku-00067-00016072-00016119 faster E5bb50G40Ku-00068-00016119-00016455 yeah well you mentioned the pandemic and E5bb50G40Ku-00069-00016456-00016575 you know the present united states was E5bb50G40Ku-00070-00016576-00016791 tweeting this morning that he was upset E5bb50G40Ku-00071-00016792-00016847 that E5bb50G40Ku-00072-00016848-00017143 you know the the fda in the u.s is not E5bb50G40Ku-00073-00017144-00017255 allowing the E5bb50G40Ku-00074-00017256-00017430 the vaccine to proceed as fast as you'd E5bb50G40Ku-00075-00017431-00017599 like it in fact it E5bb50G40Ku-00076-00017600-00017911 the fda is loosening some of its uh E5bb50G40Ku-00077-00017912-00018119 restrictions and i wonder E5bb50G40Ku-00078-00018120-00018350 if you know high performance computing 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not a geneticist i am not a biochemist E5bb50G40Ku-00095-00021800-00022103 um my son is he tries to explain it to E5bb50G40Ku-00096-00022104-00022158 me E5bb50G40Ku-00097-00022159-00022350 and it tends to go in one ear and out E5bb50G40Ku-00098-00022351-00022607 the other um E5bb50G40Ku-00099-00022608-00022839 um i just merely build the machines he E5bb50G40Ku-00100-00022840-00023039 uses so we're sort of even on that front E5bb50G40Ku-00101-00023040-00023375 um if you read if you had read the press E5bb50G40Ku-00102-00023376-00023535 there was a lot of E5bb50G40Ku-00103-00023536-00023822 people offering up systems and E5bb50G40Ku-00104-00023823-00024135 computational resources for scientists E5bb50G40Ku-00105-00024136-00024439 a lot of the work that has been done E5bb50G40Ku-00106-00024440-00024863 understanding the mechanisms of covid19 E5bb50G40Ku-00107-00024864-00025222 um have been you know uncovered by the E5bb50G40Ku-00108-00025223-00025263 use E5bb50G40Ku-00109-00025264-00025718 of very very powerful computers E5bb50G40Ku-00110-00025719-00025983 would exascale have helped well clearly E5bb50G40Ku-00111-00025983-00026143 the faster the computers E5bb50G40Ku-00112-00026144-00026479 the more simulations we can do E5bb50G40Ku-00113-00026480-00026823 i think if you look back historically no E5bb50G40Ku-00114-00026824-00027135 vaccine has come to fruition as E5bb50G40Ku-00115-00027136-00027574 fast ever under modern rules E5bb50G40Ku-00116-00027575-00027814 okay admittedly the first vaccine was E5bb50G40Ku-00117-00027816-00028079 you know edward jenner sat quietly um E5bb50G40Ku-00118-00028080-00028318 you know smearing a few people and E5bb50G40Ku-00119-00028319-00028479 hoping it worked E5bb50G40Ku-00120-00028480-00028918 um i think we're slightly beyond that E5bb50G40Ku-00121-00028919-00029174 the fda has rules and regulations for a E5bb50G40Ku-00122-00029175-00029231 reason E5bb50G40Ku-00123-00029232-00029527 and we you don't have to go back far in E5bb50G40Ku-00124-00029527-00029751 our history to understand E5bb50G40Ku-00125-00029752-00030207 the nature of uh drugs that work for 99 E5bb50G40Ku-00126-00030208-00030590 of the population you know and i think E5bb50G40Ku-00127-00030591-00030895 exascale widely available exoscale E5bb50G40Ku-00128-00030895-00031183 and much faster computers are going to E5bb50G40Ku-00129-00031183-00031311 assist with that E5bb50G40Ku-00130-00031312-00031670 imagine having a genetic map E5bb50G40Ku-00131-00031672-00031974 of very large numbers of people on the E5bb50G40Ku-00132-00031975-00032062 earth E5bb50G40Ku-00133-00032063-00032407 and being able to test your drug against E5bb50G40Ku-00134-00032408-00032767 that breadth of person and you know E5bb50G40Ku-00135-00032768-00033167 that 99 of the time it works fine E5bb50G40Ku-00136-00033168-00033383 under fda rules you could never sell it E5bb50G40Ku-00137-00033384-00033527 you could never do that 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uh personally are we at a point E5bb50G40Ku-00154-00037184-00037518 where we still need human trials yes do E5bb50G40Ku-00155-00037519-00037727 we still need due diligence E5bb50G40Ku-00156-00037728-00038111 yes um we're not there yet exascale is E5bb50G40Ku-00157-00038112-00038318 you know it's coming it's not there yet E5bb50G40Ku-00158-00038319-00038455 yeah well to your point the faster the E5bb50G40Ku-00159-00038456-00038655 computer the more simulations and the E5bb50G40Ku-00160-00038656-00038743 higher the E5bb50G40Ku-00161-00038744-00038895 the chance that we're actually going to E5bb50G40Ku-00162-00038896-00039087 going to going to get it right and maybe E5bb50G40Ku-00163-00039088-00039279 compress that time to market E5bb50G40Ku-00164-00039280-00039479 but talk about some of the problems that E5bb50G40Ku-00165-00039480-00039599 you're working on E5bb50G40Ku-00166-00039600-00039774 uh and and the challenges for you know E5bb50G40Ku-00167-00039775-00039943 for example with the uk government and E5bb50G40Ku-00168-00039944-00040007 maybe E5bb50G40Ku-00169-00040008-00040183 maybe others that you can you can share E5bb50G40Ku-00170-00040184-00040399 with us help us understand kind of E5bb50G40Ku-00171-00040400-00040751 what you're hoping to accomplish E5bb50G40Ku-00172-00040752-00041055 so um within the united kingdom there E5bb50G40Ku-00173-00041056-00041151 was a report E5bb50G40Ku-00174-00041152-00041495 published um for E5bb50G40Ku-00175-00041496-00041918 the um for the uk research institute E5bb50G40Ku-00176-00041919-00042127 i think it's the uk research institute E5bb50G40Ku-00177-00042128-00042287 it might be epsrc E5bb50G40Ku-00178-00042288-00042479 however it's the body of people E5bb50G40Ku-00179-00042480-00042599 responsible for E5bb50G40Ku-00180-00042600-00042935 funding um science E5bb50G40Ku-00181-00042936-00043271 and there was a case E5bb50G40Ku-00182-00043272-00043662 a science case done for exascale E5bb50G40Ku-00183-00043663-00044055 i'm not a scientist um a lot of the work E5bb50G40Ku-00184-00044056-00044430 that was in this documentation said E5bb50G40Ku-00185-00044431-00044790 that a number of things E5bb50G40Ku-00186-00044791-00045127 that can be done E5bb50G40Ku-00187-00045128-00045567 today aren't good enough E5bb50G40Ku-00188-00045568-00045807 that we need to look further out we need E5bb50G40Ku-00189-00045808-00045935 to look at machines E5bb50G40Ku-00190-00045936-00046167 that will do much more there's been a E5bb50G40Ku-00191-00046168-00046295 program funded called E5bb50G40Ku-00192-00046296-00046583 asimov and this is a sort of a E5bb50G40Ku-00193-00046584-00046767 commercial E5bb50G40Ku-00194-00046768-00047151 problem that the uk government is E5bb50G40Ku-00195-00047152-00047327 working with rolls royce E5bb50G40Ku-00196-00047328-00047583 and they're trying to research how you E5bb50G40Ku-00197-00047584-00047718 build a full engine model E5bb50G40Ku-00198-00047719-00047999 and by full engine model i mean one that E5bb50G40Ku-00199-00048000-00048143 takes into account E5bb50G40Ku-00200-00048144-00048486 both the flow of gases through it and E5bb50G40Ku-00201-00048487-00048790 how those flow of gases and temperatures E5bb50G40Ku-00202-00048791-00049023 change the physical dynamics of the E5bb50G40Ku-00203-00049024-00049102 engine E5bb50G40Ku-00204-00049103-00049302 and of course as you change the physical E5bb50G40Ku-00205-00049303-00049446 dynamics of the engine E5bb50G40Ku-00206-00049447-00049662 you change the flow so you need a E5bb50G40Ku-00207-00049663-00049871 closely coupled model E5bb50G40Ku-00208-00049872-00050230 as air travel becomes E5bb50G40Ku-00209-00050231-00050615 more and more under the microscope E5bb50G40Ku-00210-00050616-00050871 we need to make sure that the air travel E5bb50G40Ku-00211-00050872-00050918 we do E5bb50G40Ku-00212-00050919-00051230 is as efficient as possible E5bb50G40Ku-00213-00051232-00051363 and currently there aren't E5bb50G40Ku-00214-00051364-00051790 supercomputers that have the performance E5bb50G40Ku-00215-00051791-00051942 one of the things i'm going to be doing E5bb50G40Ku-00216-00051944-00052094 as part of this sequence of E5bb50G40Ku-00217-00052095-00052223 conversations E5bb50G40Ku-00218-00052224-00052414 is i'm going to be having an in detailed E5bb50G40Ku-00219-00052415-00052615 uh sorry an in-depth E5bb50G40Ku-00220-00052616-00052823 but it will be very detailed an in-depth E5bb50G40Ku-00221-00052824-00052935 conversation E5bb50G40Ku-00222-00052936-00053150 with professor mark parsons from the E5bb50G40Ku-00223-00053151-00053311 edinburgh parallel computing center he's E5bb50G40Ku-00224-00053312-00053447 the director there E5bb50G40Ku-00225-00053448-00053623 and the dean of research at edinburgh E5bb50G40Ku-00226-00053624-00053775 university E5bb50G40Ku-00227-00053776-00054071 and i'm going to be talking to him about E5bb50G40Ku-00228-00054072-00054159 the azimoth E5bb50G40Ku-00229-00054160-00054503 program and and mark's experience E5bb50G40Ku-00230-00054504-00054791 as the person responsible for looking at E5bb50G40Ku-00231-00054791-00054982 exascale within the uk E5bb50G40Ku-00232-00054983-00055223 to try and determine what are the sort E5bb50G40Ku-00233-00055224-00055430 of science problems that we can E5bb50G40Ku-00234-00055432-00055799 solve as we move into the exoscale era E5bb50G40Ku-00235-00055800-00056030 and what that means for humanity what E5bb50G40Ku-00236-00056032-00056166 are the benefits E5bb50G40Ku-00237-00056167-00056350 for humans yeah and that's what i wanted E5bb50G40Ku-00238-00056351-00056519 to ask you about the the rolls-royce E5bb50G40Ku-00239-00056520-00056599 example E5bb50G40Ku-00240-00056600-00056791 that you gave it wasn't i if i E5bb50G40Ku-00241-00056791-00056935 understood it wasn't so much E5bb50G40Ku-00242-00056936-00057230 safety as it was you said efficiency and E5bb50G40Ku-00243-00057232-00057326 so that's E5bb50G40Ku-00244-00057327-00057623 that's what fuel consumption um it's E5bb50G40Ku-00245-00057624-00057782 it's partly fuel consumption E5bb50G40Ku-00246-00057783-00058135 it is of course safety there is a um E5bb50G40Ku-00247-00058136-00058430 there is a very specific test called an E5bb50G40Ku-00248-00058432-00058519 extreme event E5bb50G40Ku-00249-00058520-00058847 or the fan blade off what happens is E5bb50G40Ku-00250-00058848-00058942 they build E5bb50G40Ku-00251-00058944-00059247 an engine and they put it in a cowling E5bb50G40Ku-00252-00059248-00059454 and then they run the engine at full E5bb50G40Ku-00253-00059455-00059599 speed E5bb50G40Ku-00254-00059600-00059935 and then they literally explode E5bb50G40Ku-00255-00059936-00060238 uh they fire off a little explosive and E5bb50G40Ku-00256-00060239-00060271 they E5bb50G40Ku-00257-00060272-00060638 fire a fan belt uh a fan blade off E5bb50G40Ku-00258-00060639-00060815 to make sure that it doesn't go through E5bb50G40Ku-00259-00060816-00061103 the cowling and the reason they do that E5bb50G40Ku-00260-00061104-00061463 is there has been in the past uh a E5bb50G40Ku-00261-00061464-00061775 uh a failure of a fan blade E5bb50G40Ku-00262-00061776-00062079 and it came through the cowling and came E5bb50G40Ku-00263-00062079-00062350 into the aircraft depressurized the E5bb50G40Ku-00264-00062351-00062494 aircraft E5bb50G40Ku-00265-00062495-00062679 i think somebody was killed as a result E5bb50G40Ku-00266-00062679-00062863 of that and the aircraft went down E5bb50G40Ku-00267-00062864-00063182 i don't think it was a total loss E5bb50G40Ku-00268-00063183-00063511 one death being one too many E5bb50G40Ku-00269-00063512-00063823 but as a result you now have to build a E5bb50G40Ku-00270-00063824-00063982 jet engine E5bb50G40Ku-00271-00063983-00064303 instrument it balance the blades put an E5bb50G40Ku-00272-00064304-00064503 explosive in it E5bb50G40Ku-00273-00064504-00064815 and then blow the fan blade off E5bb50G40Ku-00274-00064816-00065199 now you only really want to do that once E5bb50G40Ku-00275-00065200-00065454 it's like car crash testing you want to E5bb50G40Ku-00276-00065455-00065615 build a model of the car E5bb50G40Ku-00277-00065616-00065823 you want to demonstrate with the dummy E5bb50G40Ku-00278-00065824-00065975 that it is safe E5bb50G40Ku-00279-00065976-00066206 you don't want to have to build lots of E5bb50G40Ku-00280-00066207-00066375 cars and keep going back to the drawing E5bb50G40Ku-00281-00066376-00066447 board E5bb50G40Ku-00282-00066448-00066767 so you do it in computers memory right E5bb50G40Ku-00283-00066768-00067015 we're okay with cars we have E5bb50G40Ku-00284-00067016-00067215 computational power E5bb50G40Ku-00285-00067216-00067447 to resolve to the level to determine E5bb50G40Ku-00286-00067448-00067606 whether or not the accident E5bb50G40Ku-00287-00067607-00067959 would hurt a human being still a long E5bb50G40Ku-00288-00067960-00068119 way to go to make them E5bb50G40Ku-00289-00068120-00068519 more efficient uh new materials E5bb50G40Ku-00290-00068520-00068682 how you can get away with lighter E5bb50G40Ku-00291-00068683-00068894 structures E5bb50G40Ku-00292-00068895-00069047 but we haven't got there with aircraft E5bb50G40Ku-00293-00069048-00069319 yet i mean we can build a simulation E5bb50G40Ku-00294-00069320-00069559 and we can do that and we can be pretty E5bb50G40Ku-00295-00069560-00069719 sure we're right E5bb50G40Ku-00296-00069720-00070087 um we still need to build E5bb50G40Ku-00297-00070088-00070294 an engine which costs in excess of 10 E5bb50G40Ku-00298-00070295-00070415 million dollars E5bb50G40Ku-00299-00070416-00070743 and blow the fan blade off it E5bb50G40Ku-00300-00070744-00071071 so okay so you're talking about some E5bb50G40Ku-00301-00071072-00071423 pretty complex simulations obviously E5bb50G40Ku-00302-00071424-00071662 what are some of the the barriers and E5bb50G40Ku-00303-00071663-00071806 and the breakthroughs E5bb50G40Ku-00304-00071807-00072103 that are kind of required you know to to E5bb50G40Ku-00305-00072104-00072238 do some of these things that you're E5bb50G40Ku-00306-00072239-00072438 talking about that exascale is going to E5bb50G40Ku-00307-00072439-00072615 enable i mean presumably there are E5bb50G40Ku-00308-00072616-00072767 obviously technical barriers but maybe E5bb50G40Ku-00309-00072768-00072831 you can E5bb50G40Ku-00310-00072832-00073062 shed some light on that well some of E5bb50G40Ku-00311-00073063-00073191 them are very prosaic E5bb50G40Ku-00312-00073192-00073655 so for example power exoscale machines E5bb50G40Ku-00313-00073656-00074006 consume a lot of power um so you have to E5bb50G40Ku-00314-00074007-00074135 be able to E5bb50G40Ku-00315-00074136-00074535 design systems that consume less power E5bb50G40Ku-00316-00074536-00074719 and that goes into making sure they're E5bb50G40Ku-00317-00074720-00074855 cooled efficiently E5bb50G40Ku-00318-00074856-00075215 if you use water can you reuse the water E5bb50G40Ku-00319-00075216-00075535 i mean the E5bb50G40Ku-00320-00075536-00075743 if you take a laptop and sit it on your E5bb50G40Ku-00321-00075744-00076031 lap and you type away for four hours E5bb50G40Ku-00322-00076032-00076423 you'll notice it gets quite warm um E5bb50G40Ku-00323-00076424-00076703 an exascale computer is going to E5bb50G40Ku-00324-00076704-00076862 generate E5bb50G40Ku-00325-00076863-00077143 a lot more heat several megawatts E5bb50G40Ku-00326-00077144-00077238 actually E5bb50G40Ku-00327-00077239-00077543 um and E5bb50G40Ku-00328-00077544-00077871 it sounds prosaic but it's actually very E5bb50G40Ku-00329-00077872-00078006 important to people E5bb50G40Ku-00330-00078007-00078191 you've got to make sure that the systems E5bb50G40Ku-00331-00078192-00078479 can be cooled and that we can power them E5bb50G40Ku-00332-00078480-00078855 yeah so there's that another issue E5bb50G40Ku-00333-00078856-00079199 is the software the software models E5bb50G40Ku-00334-00079200-00079511 how do you take a software model E5bb50G40Ku-00335-00079512-00079831 and distribute the data over E5bb50G40Ku-00336-00079832-00080199 many tens of thousands of nodes E5bb50G40Ku-00337-00080200-00080399 how do you do that efficiently if you E5bb50G40Ku-00338-00080400-00080543 look at E5bb50G40Ku-00339-00080544-00080847 you know gigaflop machines they had E5bb50G40Ku-00340-00080848-00081255 hundreds of nodes and each node had E5bb50G40Ku-00341-00081256-00081567 effectively a processor a core E5bb50G40Ku-00342-00081568-00081879 a thread of application E5bb50G40Ku-00343-00081880-00082182 we're looking at many many E5bb50G40Ku-00344-00082183-00082535 tens of thousands of nodes cores E5bb50G40Ku-00345-00082536-00082823 parallel threads running how do you make E5bb50G40Ku-00346-00082824-00082855 that E5bb50G40Ku-00347-00082856-00083175 efficient so is the software ready E5bb50G40Ku-00348-00083176-00083431 i think the majority of people will tell E5bb50G40Ku-00349-00083432-00083487 you E5bb50G40Ku-00350-00083488-00083694 that it's the software that's the E5bb50G40Ku-00351-00083695-00083862 problem E5bb50G40Ku-00352-00083863-00084191 not the hardware of course E5bb50G40Ku-00353-00084192-00084367 my friends in hardware would tell you ah E5bb50G40Ku-00354-00084368-00084526 software is easy it's the hardware E5bb50G40Ku-00355-00084527-00084638 that's the problem E5bb50G40Ku-00356-00084639-00084847 i think for the universities and the E5bb50G40Ku-00357-00084848-00085031 users the challenge E5bb50G40Ku-00358-00085032-00085482 is going to be the software i think E5bb50G40Ku-00359-00085483-00085799 um it's going to have to evolve E5bb50G40Ku-00360-00085800-00086103 you you're just you want to look at your E5bb50G40Ku-00361-00086104-00086191 machine E5bb50G40Ku-00362-00086192-00086518 and you just want to be able to dump E5bb50G40Ku-00363-00086519-00086991 work onto it easily we're not there yet E5bb50G40Ku-00364-00086992-00087238 not by a long stretch of the imagination E5bb50G40Ku-00365-00087239-00087471 yeah consequently you know we one of the E5bb50G40Ku-00366-00087472-00087647 things that we're doing E5bb50G40Ku-00367-00087648-00087894 is that we have a lot of centers of E5bb50G40Ku-00368-00087895-00088135 excellence is we will provide E5bb50G40Ku-00369-00088136-00088415 well i hate say the word provide we we E5bb50G40Ku-00370-00088416-00088599 sell super computers E5bb50G40Ku-00371-00088600-00088903 and once the machine has gone in E5bb50G40Ku-00372-00088904-00089175 we work very closely with the E5bb50G40Ku-00373-00089176-00089335 establishments E5bb50G40Ku-00374-00089336-00089662 create centers of excellence to get the E5bb50G40Ku-00375-00089663-00089887 best out of the machines to improve the E5bb50G40Ku-00376-00089888-00090006 software E5bb50G40Ku-00377-00090007-00090326 um and E5bb50G40Ku-00378-00090327-00090606 if a machine's expensive you want to get E5bb50G40Ku-00379-00090607-00090815 the most out of it that you can E5bb50G40Ku-00380-00090816-00090982 you don't just want to run a synthetic E5bb50G40Ku-00381-00090983-00091223 benchmark and say look i'm E5bb50G40Ku-00382-00091224-00091494 the fastest supercomputer on the planet E5bb50G40Ku-00383-00091495-00091750 you know your users who want access to E5bb50G40Ku-00384-00091751-00091815 it E5bb50G40Ku-00385-00091816-00092094 are the people that really decide how E5bb50G40Ku-00386-00092095-00092191 useful it is E5bb50G40Ku-00387-00092192-00092471 and the work they get out of it yeah the E5bb50G40Ku-00388-00092472-00092606 economics is definitely a factor E5bb50G40Ku-00389-00092607-00092743 in fact the fastest supercomputer in the E5bb50G40Ku-00390-00092744-00092903 planet but you can't if you can't afford E5bb50G40Ku-00391-00092904-00093023 to use it what good is it E5bb50G40Ku-00392-00093024-00093343 uh you mentioned power uh and then the E5bb50G40Ku-00393-00093344-00093511 flip side of that coin is of course E5bb50G40Ku-00394-00093512-00093567 cooling E5bb50G40Ku-00395-00093568-00093782 you can reduce the power consumption but E5bb50G40Ku-00396-00093783-00093999 but how challenging is it to E5bb50G40Ku-00397-00094000-00094415 cool these systems um E5bb50G40Ku-00398-00094416-00094679 it's an engineering problem yeah we we E5bb50G40Ku-00399-00094680-00094759 have E5bb50G40Ku-00400-00094760-00095135 you know uh data centers E5bb50G40Ku-00401-00095136-00095438 in iceland where it gets E5bb50G40Ku-00402-00095439-00095718 um you know it doesn't get too warm we E5bb50G40Ku-00403-00095719-00095950 have a big air cooled data center E5bb50G40Ku-00404-00095951-00096223 in in the united kingdom where it never E5bb50G40Ku-00405-00096224-00096462 gets above 30 degrees centigrade E5bb50G40Ku-00406-00096463-00096682 so if you put in water at 40 degrees E5bb50G40Ku-00407-00096683-00096911 centigrade and it comes out at 50 E5bb50G40Ku-00408-00096912-00097071 degrees centigrade E5bb50G40Ku-00409-00097072-00097391 you can cool it by just pumping it round E5bb50G40Ku-00410-00097392-00097662 the air you know just putting it outside E5bb50G40Ku-00411-00097663-00097855 the building because the building will E5bb50G40Ku-00412-00097856-00098023 you know never gets above 30 so it'll E5bb50G40Ku-00413-00098024-00098174 easily drop it back to E5bb50G40Ku-00414-00098175-00098359 40 to enable you to put it back into the E5bb50G40Ku-00415-00098360-00098679 machine um E5bb50G40Ku-00416-00098680-00099062 right other ways to do it um E5bb50G40Ku-00417-00099063-00099391 you know is to take the heat and use it E5bb50G40Ku-00418-00099392-00099567 commercially there's a E5bb50G40Ku-00419-00099568-00099815 there's a lovely story of they take the E5bb50G40Ku-00420-00099816-00099999 hot water out of the supercomputer in E5bb50G40Ku-00421-00100000-00100135 the nordics E5bb50G40Ku-00422-00100136-00100423 um and then they pump it into a brewery E5bb50G40Ku-00423-00100424-00100662 to keep the mash tuns warm E5bb50G40Ku-00424-00100663-00100806 you know that's that's the sort of E5bb50G40Ku-00425-00100807-00101023 engineering i can get behind yeah E5bb50G40Ku-00426-00101024-00101238 indeed that's a great application talk a E5bb50G40Ku-00427-00101239-00101335 little bit more about E5bb50G40Ku-00428-00101336-00101687 your conversation with professor parsons E5bb50G40Ku-00429-00101688-00101911 maybe we could double click into that E5bb50G40Ku-00430-00101912-00102031 what are some of the things that you're E5bb50G40Ku-00431-00102032-00102150 going to you're going to probe there E5bb50G40Ku-00432-00102151-00102350 what are you hoping to learn E5bb50G40Ku-00433-00102351-00102606 so i think some of the things that that E5bb50G40Ku-00434-00102607-00102878 are going to be interesting to uncover E5bb50G40Ku-00435-00102879-00103190 is just the breadth of science that E5bb50G40Ku-00436-00103191-00103534 can be uh that could take advantage of E5bb50G40Ku-00437-00103535-00103702 exascale you know there are there are E5bb50G40Ku-00438-00103703-00103894 many things going on E5bb50G40Ku-00439-00103895-00104151 that uh that people hear about you know E5bb50G40Ku-00440-00104152-00104239 we E5bb50G40Ku-00441-00104240-00104558 people are interested in um E5bb50G40Ku-00442-00104559-00104823 you know the nobel prize they might have E5bb50G40Ku-00443-00104824-00104871 no E5bb50G40Ku-00444-00104872-00105071 idea what it means but the nobel prize E5bb50G40Ku-00445-00105072-00105223 for physics was awarded E5bb50G40Ku-00446-00105224-00105534 um to do with research into black holes E5bb50G40Ku-00447-00105535-00105871 you know fascinating and E5bb50G40Ku-00448-00105872-00106215 truly insightful physics um E5bb50G40Ku-00449-00106216-00106527 could it benefit from exascale i have no E5bb50G40Ku-00450-00106528-00106639 idea E5bb50G40Ku-00451-00106640-00106958 uh i i really don't E5bb50G40Ku-00452-00106959-00107231 um you know one of the most profound E5bb50G40Ku-00453-00107232-00107366 pieces of knowledge E5bb50G40Ku-00454-00107367-00107654 in in the last few hundred years has E5bb50G40Ku-00455-00107655-00107719 been E5bb50G40Ku-00456-00107720-00108007 the theory of relativity you know an E5bb50G40Ku-00457-00108008-00108254 austrian patent clerk wrote e equals m c E5bb50G40Ku-00458-00108255-00108463 squared on the back of an envelope and E5bb50G40Ku-00459-00108464-00108590 and voila E5bb50G40Ku-00460-00108591-00108871 i i don't believe any form of exascale E5bb50G40Ku-00461-00108872-00108958 computing E5bb50G40Ku-00462-00108959-00109086 would have helped him get there any E5bb50G40Ku-00463-00109088-00109334 faster E5bb50G40Ku-00464-00109335-00109727 right that's maybe flippant but E5bb50G40Ku-00465-00109728-00110023 i think the point is is that there are E5bb50G40Ku-00466-00110024-00110119 areas E5bb50G40Ku-00467-00110120-00110486 in terms of weather prediction E5bb50G40Ku-00468-00110488-00110966 climate prediction drug discovery E5bb50G40Ku-00469-00110967-00111307 um material knowledge E5bb50G40Ku-00470-00111308-00111623 engineering uh problems that E5bb50G40Ku-00471-00111624-00111990 are going to be E5bb50G40Ku-00472-00111991-00112334 unlocked with the use of exascale class E5bb50G40Ku-00473-00112335-00112439 systems E5bb50G40Ku-00474-00112440-00112710 we are going to be able to provide more E5bb50G40Ku-00475-00112711-00112815 tools E5bb50G40Ku-00476-00112816-00112982 more insight E5bb50G40Ku-00477-00112983-00113127 [Music] E5bb50G40Ku-00478-00113128-00113399 and that's the purpose of computing you E5bb50G40Ku-00479-00113400-00113654 know it's not that it's not the data E5bb50G40Ku-00480-00113655-00113975 that that comes out and it's the insight E5bb50G40Ku-00481-00113976-00114254 we get from it E5bb50G40Ku-00482-00114255-00114431 yeah i often say data is plentiful E5bb50G40Ku-00483-00114432-00114558 insights are not E5bb50G40Ku-00484-00114559-00114839 um ben you're a bit of an industry E5bb50G40Ku-00485-00114840-00115023 historian so i've got to ask you E5bb50G40Ku-00486-00115024-00115215 you mentioned you mentioned mentioned E5bb50G40Ku-00487-00115216-00115423 gigaflop gigaflops before which i think E5bb50G40Ku-00488-00115424-00115647 goes back to the early 1970s E5bb50G40Ku-00489-00115648-00115975 uh but the history actually the 80s E5bb50G40Ku-00490-00115976-00116151 is it the 80s okay well the history of E5bb50G40Ku-00491-00116152-00116319 computing goes back even before that E5bb50G40Ku-00492-00116320-00116558 you know yes i thought i thought seymour E5bb50G40Ku-00493-00116559-00116647 cray was E5bb50G40Ku-00494-00116648-00116823 you know kind of father of super E5bb50G40Ku-00495-00116824-00116966 computing but perhaps E5bb50G40Ku-00496-00116967-00117166 you have another point of view as to the E5bb50G40Ku-00497-00117167-00117271 origination E5bb50G40Ku-00498-00117272-00117504 of high performance computing E5bb50G40Ku-00499-00117505-00117695 [Music] E5bb50G40Ku-00500-00117696-00117958 oh yes this is um this is this is one E5bb50G40Ku-00501-00117959-00118175 for all my colleagues globally E5bb50G40Ku-00502-00118176-00118575 um you know arguably he says E5bb50G40Ku-00503-00118576-00118734 getting ready to be attacked from all E5bb50G40Ku-00504-00118735-00118919 sides arguably E5bb50G40Ku-00505-00118920-00119278 you know um computing uh the parallel E5bb50G40Ku-00506-00119279-00119486 work and the research done E5bb50G40Ku-00507-00119488-00119727 during the war by alan turing is the E5bb50G40Ku-00508-00119728-00119815 father of E5bb50G40Ku-00509-00119816-00120095 high performance computing i think one E5bb50G40Ku-00510-00120096-00120207 of the problems E5bb50G40Ku-00511-00120208-00120483 we have is that so much of that work was E5bb50G40Ku-00512-00120483-00120614 classified E5bb50G40Ku-00513-00120615-00120854 so much of that work was kept away from E5bb50G40Ku-00514-00120855-00121134 commercial people E5bb50G40Ku-00515-00121135-00121447 that commercial computing E5bb50G40Ku-00516-00121448-00121883 evolved without that knowledge E5bb50G40Ku-00517-00121883-00122119 i uh i have done E5bb50G40Ku-00518-00122120-00122439 in in in a previous life i have done E5bb50G40Ku-00519-00122440-00122678 some work for the british science museum E5bb50G40Ku-00520-00122679-00122919 and i have had the great pleasure in E5bb50G40Ku-00521-00122920-00123007 walking E5bb50G40Ku-00522-00123008-00123383 through the the british science museum E5bb50G40Ku-00523-00123383-00123575 archives E5bb50G40Ku-00524-00123576-00123975 um to look at how computing has evolved E5bb50G40Ku-00525-00123976-00124214 from things like the the pascaline from E5bb50G40Ku-00526-00124215-00124366 blaise pascal E5bb50G40Ku-00527-00124367-00124758 you know napier's bones the babbage's E5bb50G40Ku-00528-00124759-00125102 machines uh to to look E5bb50G40Ku-00529-00125103-00125302 all the way through the analog machines E5bb50G40Ku-00530-00125303-00125502 you know what conrad zeus was doing on a E5bb50G40Ku-00531-00125503-00125647 desktop E5bb50G40Ku-00532-00125648-00126054 um i think i think what's important is E5bb50G40Ku-00533-00126055-00126247 it doesn't matter where you are E5bb50G40Ku-00534-00126248-00126583 is that it is the problem that drives E5bb50G40Ku-00535-00126583-00126854 the technology and it's having the E5bb50G40Ku-00536-00126855-00126958 problems E5bb50G40Ku-00537-00126959-00127310 that requires the you know the human E5bb50G40Ku-00538-00127311-00127383 race E5bb50G40Ku-00539-00127383-00127727 to look at solutions E5bb50G40Ku-00540-00127728-00128031 and be these kicks started by E5bb50G40Ku-00541-00128032-00128207 you know the terrible problem that the E5bb50G40Ku-00542-00128208-00128399 us has with its nuclear stockpile E5bb50G40Ku-00543-00128400-00128478 stewardship E5bb50G40Ku-00544-00128479-00128671 now you've invented them how do you keep E5bb50G40Ku-00545-00128672-00128783 them safe E5bb50G40Ku-00546-00128783-00128927 originally done through the ascii E5bb50G40Ku-00547-00128928-00129102 program E5bb50G40Ku-00548-00129103-00129439 that's driven a lot of computational E5bb50G40Ku-00549-00129440-00129743 advances E5bb50G40Ku-00550-00129744-00130078 ultimately it's our quest for E5bb50G40Ku-00551-00130079-00130407 knowledge that drives these machines and E5bb50G40Ku-00552-00130408-00130527 i think as long as E5bb50G40Ku-00553-00130528-00130854 we are interested as long as we want to E5bb50G40Ku-00554-00130855-00130902 find E5bb50G40Ku-00555-00130903-00131295 things out there will always be E5bb50G40Ku-00556-00131296-00131654 advances in computing to meet that need E5bb50G40Ku-00557-00131655-00131839 yeah and you know it was a great E5bb50G40Ku-00558-00131840-00131990 conversation uh E5bb50G40Ku-00559-00131991-00132183 you're a brilliant guest i i love this E5bb50G40Ku-00560-00132184-00132302 this this talk E5bb50G40Ku-00561-00132303-00132487 and uh and of course as the saying goes E5bb50G40Ku-00562-00132488-00132639 success has many fathers so there's E5bb50G40Ku-00563-00132640-00132711 probably a E5bb50G40Ku-00564-00132712-00132863 few polish mathematicians that would E5bb50G40Ku-00565-00132864-00133071 stake a claim in the uh the original E5bb50G40Ku-00566-00133072-00133175 enigma E5bb50G40Ku-00567-00133176-00133399 project as well i think i think they E5bb50G40Ku-00568-00133400-00133535 drove the algorithm E5bb50G40Ku-00569-00133536-00133719 i think the problem is is that the work E5bb50G40Ku-00570-00133720-00133895 of tommy flowers E5bb50G40Ku-00571-00133896-00134175 is the person who took the algorithms E5bb50G40Ku-00572-00134176-00134319 and the work E5bb50G40Ku-00573-00134320-00134663 that um that was being done and actually E5bb50G40Ku-00574-00134664-00134847 had to build the poor machine E5bb50G40Ku-00575-00134848-00135014 he's the guy that actually had to sit E5bb50G40Ku-00576-00135015-00135214 there and go how do i turn E5bb50G40Ku-00577-00135215-00135559 this into a machine that does that E5bb50G40Ku-00578-00135560-00135783 and and so you know people always E5bb50G40Ku-00579-00135784-00135919 remember touring E5bb50G40Ku-00580-00135920-00136159 very few people remember tommy flowers E5bb50G40Ku-00581-00136160-00136327 who actually had to E5bb50G40Ku-00582-00136328-00136647 turn the great work um into a working E5bb50G40Ku-00583-00136648-00136719 machine E5bb50G40Ku-00584-00136720-00137047 yeah super computer team sport well ben E5bb50G40Ku-00585-00137048-00137214 it's great to have you on thanks so much E5bb50G40Ku-00586-00137215-00137414 for your perspectives best of luck E5bb50G40Ku-00587-00137415-00137590 with your conversation with professor E5bb50G40Ku-00588-00137591-00137751 parsons we'll be looking forward to that E5bb50G40Ku-00589-00137752-00137814 and uh E5bb50G40Ku-00590-00137815-00138039 and thanks so much for coming on thecube E5bb50G40Ku-00591-00138040-00138135 a complete pleasure E5bb50G40Ku-00592-00138136-00138311 thank you and thank you everybody for E5bb50G40Ku-00593-00138312-00138454 watching this is dave vellante we're E5bb50G40Ku-00594-00138455-00138687 celebrating exascale day you're watching E5bb50G40Ku-00595-00138688-00139479 the cube E5bb50G40Ku-00596-00139480-00139791 [Music] E7C-oxeYXoo-00000-00000762-00002399 [Music] E7C-oxeYXoo-00001-00002400-00002510 i'm just trying to find E7C-oxeYXoo-00002-00002511-00002791 myself in life i'm too damn tired of E7C-oxeYXoo-00003-00002792-00002871 this nine to E7C-oxeYXoo-00004-00002872-00003102 five i wake up every single day to the E7C-oxeYXoo-00005-00003103-00003199 same E7C-oxeYXoo-00006-00003200-00003463 wonder what i gotta do to change it E7C-oxeYXoo-00007-00003464-00003638 staring in the mirror talking about the E7C-oxeYXoo-00008-00003639-00003743 that i did E7C-oxeYXoo-00009-00003744-00003999 makes me look so heartless but i promise E7C-oxeYXoo-00010-00004000-00004206 where that hole is where my heart is E7C-oxeYXoo-00011-00004207-00004406 david everything i got yeah try my E7C-oxeYXoo-00012-00004407-00004606 hardest tell me where i went wrong you E7C-oxeYXoo-00013-00004607-00004702 say it's just me E7C-oxeYXoo-00014-00004703-00004863 yeah i've been known i switched lanes E7C-oxeYXoo-00015-00004864-00005070 and crashed the g-wagon into asphalt i'm E7C-oxeYXoo-00016-00005071-00005231 sick of everything that i've been E7C-oxeYXoo-00017-00005232-00005270 through E7C-oxeYXoo-00018-00005271-00005438 type of that got me feeling like i E7C-oxeYXoo-00019-00005439-00005606 really need you E7C-oxeYXoo-00020-00005607-00005886 tell me what it means to be alive tell E7C-oxeYXoo-00021-00005887-00006063 me what it means to be E7C-oxeYXoo-00022-00006064-00006383 alive tell me what it means to be alive E7C-oxeYXoo-00023-00006384-00006567 i'm sick of living life if i'm not E7C-oxeYXoo-00024-00006568-00006783 living it right here brand new whip all E7C-oxeYXoo-00025-00006784-00006998 the off-white don't give a yeah i E7C-oxeYXoo-00026-00007000-00007183 had a bad night i've been trying to get E7C-oxeYXoo-00027-00007184-00007206 my E7C-oxeYXoo-00028-00007208-00007398 mind right going through this E7C-oxeYXoo-00029-00007400-00008821 sometimes it don't feel alright E7C-oxeYXoo-00030-00008822-00009335 [Music] E7C-oxeYXoo-00031-00009336-00009535 wake up every single day to the same E7C-oxeYXoo-00032-00009536-00009863 wonder what i gotta do to change it E7C-oxeYXoo-00033-00009864-00010039 staring in the mirror talking about the E7C-oxeYXoo-00034-00010040-00010206 that i did makes me E7C-oxeYXoo-00035-00010207-00010423 look so heartless but i promise where E7C-oxeYXoo-00036-00010424-00010646 that hole is where my heart is david E7C-oxeYXoo-00037-00010647-00010871 everything i got yeah try my hardest E7C-oxeYXoo-00038-00010872-00011046 tell me where i went wrong you say it's E7C-oxeYXoo-00039-00011047-00011231 just me yeah i've been known i switched E7C-oxeYXoo-00040-00011232-00011406 lanes and crashed the g-wagon into E7C-oxeYXoo-00041-00011407-00011463 asphalt E7C-oxeYXoo-00042-00011464-00011631 i'm sick of everything that i've been E7C-oxeYXoo-00043-00011632-00011799 through type of that got me feeling E7C-oxeYXoo-00044-00011800-00013119 like i really need you E7C-oxeYXoo-00045-00013119-00013328 you ErwmDJ2k4A0-00000-00001144-00001582 [Music] ErwmDJ2k4A0-00001-00001583-00001792 foreign Er-T8EV3NeM-00000-00000041-00001871 [Music] Er-T8EV3NeM-00001-00001872-00002080 you EsigSInhxUu-00000-00000000-00000229 what does it take to change your EsigSInhxUu-00001-00000231-00000497 worldview I'm Pincus Taylor and this is EsigSInhxUu-00002-00000498-00001574 Taylor talks so welcome everybody back EsigSInhxUu-00003-00001575-00001925 to another exciting episode we love EsigSInhxUu-00004-00001926-00002204 Taylor talks and we are very happy to EsigSInhxUu-00005-00002205-00002408 have a very esteemed guest and hopefully EsigSInhxUu-00006-00002409-00002573 new friends for the show Dave Rubin a EsigSInhxUu-00007-00002574-00002959 Dave thanks so much for coming out I've EsigSInhxUu-00008-00002960-00003113 been interviewed by a lot of people I EsigSInhxUu-00009-00003114-00003497 believe you are the first rabbi that I EsigSInhxUu-00010-00003497-00003713 am on that I'm talking to for this book EsigSInhxUu-00011-00003714-00003979 tour I'm excited about that Dave Rubin EsigSInhxUu-00012-00003980-00004285 is obviously the the host a very popular EsigSInhxUu-00013-00004286-00004681 the Reuben report a very popular podcast EsigSInhxUu-00014-00004682-00005029 and YouTube channel that focuses on free EsigSInhxUu-00015-00005030-00005576 speech ends on big ideas and that's one EsigSInhxUu-00016-00005577-00005681 of the things that I like about Dave EsigSInhxUu-00017-00005682-00005918 Rubin is that he focuses on big ideas EsigSInhxUu-00018-00005919-00006118 which kind of helps people get out of EsigSInhxUu-00019-00006119-00006302 the box that they might be locked in EsigSInhxUu-00020-00006303-00006559 that they can't think one particular way EsigSInhxUu-00021-00006561-00006719 because they label themself as a EsigSInhxUu-00022-00006720-00007019 conservative or as a liberal or as any EsigSInhxUu-00023-00007020-00007319 number of infinite things so so thanks EsigSInhxUu-00024-00007320-00007603 for talking about Big Ideas Dave before EsigSInhxUu-00025-00007604-00008126 we thank me yet all right before we get EsigSInhxUu-00026-00008127-00008492 into the ideological evolution of Dave EsigSInhxUu-00027-00008493-00008785 Rubin I wonder if we can kind of get to EsigSInhxUu-00028-00008786-00009005 know Dave Rubin the person like a little EsigSInhxUu-00029-00009006-00009152 bit about your upbringing a little bit EsigSInhxUu-00030-00009153-00009431 about just your backgrounds and how you EsigSInhxUu-00031-00009432-00009564 got to where you are today EsigSInhxUu-00032-00009565-00010024 sure well I was born in Brooklyn in 1976 EsigSInhxUu-00033-00010025-00010394 June 26 1976 Brooklyn before it was cool EsigSInhxUu-00034-00010395-00010562 hipster Brooklyn Brooklyn when it was EsigSInhxUu-00035-00010563-00010823 still old Brooklyn not you know not EsigSInhxUu-00036-00010824-00011012 Brooklyn Dodgers Brooklyn but some EsigSInhxUu-00037-00011013-00011296 recollection or some feeling of old EsigSInhxUu-00038-00011297-00011531 Brooklyn I mentioned June 26 as my EsigSInhxUu-00039-00011532-00011746 birthday because my bar mitzvah which EsigSInhxUu-00040-00011747-00011924 was my bar mitzvah my bris which was EsigSInhxUu-00041-00011925-00012289 eight days later was on July 4th 1976 EsigSInhxUu-00042-00012290-00012556 which was the 200 Sultana year EsigSInhxUu-00043-00012557-00012838 anniversary of the United States so EsigSInhxUu-00044-00012839-00013091 maybe maybe liberty and freedom was was EsigSInhxUu-00045-00013091-00013341 sort of American to me I didn't you EsigSInhxUu-00046-00013341-00013893 because I had my bris on grew up in Long EsigSInhxUu-00047-00013894-00014103 Island in in Syosset Long Island so that EsigSInhxUu-00048-00014104-00014283 was my parents sort of accomplishing the EsigSInhxUu-00049-00014284-00014544 the dream you know the American dream of EsigSInhxUu-00050-00014544-00014796 moving out to the suburbs my my parent EsigSInhxUu-00051-00014797-00014969 my dad's family lived in Brooklyn my EsigSInhxUu-00052-00014970-00015129 mom's family was mostly in New York City EsigSInhxUu-00053-00015130-00015441 I went to college upstate New York SUNY EsigSInhxUu-00054-00015441-00015621 Binghamton and then I lived in New York EsigSInhxUu-00055-00015622-00015791 City for most of my adult life and did EsigSInhxUu-00056-00015793-00015930 stand-up in New York for about 12 years EsigSInhxUu-00057-00015931-00016088 and had a radio show and a whole bunch EsigSInhxUu-00058-00016090-00016305 of other stuff I would say I came from a EsigSInhxUu-00059-00016306-00016694 pretty traditional household in from a EsigSInhxUu-00060-00016695-00016897 Jewish perspective we went to a EsigSInhxUu-00061-00016898-00017244 conservative temple did Shabbat all the EsigSInhxUu-00062-00017245-00017525 all the holidays just jamming as many EsigSInhxUu-00063-00017526-00017694 people as could possibly get usually EsigSInhxUu-00064-00017695-00017943 into my parents home but two aunts and EsigSInhxUu-00065-00017944-00018624 uncles as well and yeah my folks still EsigSInhxUu-00066-00018625-00018774 live in the house that I grew up in EsigSInhxUu-00067-00018775-00018955 there they're still there now you know EsigSInhxUu-00068-00018956-00019194 47 years later or something like that EsigSInhxUu-00069-00019195-00019500 my sister was actually living with them EsigSInhxUu-00070-00019501-00019719 for the past couple months during EsigSInhxUu-00071-00019720-00019893 lockdown but now she moved out to the EsigSInhxUu-00072-00019894-00020072 suburbs as well with her Israeli husband EsigSInhxUu-00073-00020073-00020294 and their two kids and I've got a 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would stop arguing and that was it and EsigSInhxUu-00088-00023467-00023643 there were no grudges held over politics EsigSInhxUu-00089-00023644-00023763 or anything like that you know we had EsigSInhxUu-00090-00023764-00023991 family squabbles like everybody else but EsigSInhxUu-00091-00023992-00024174 but the idea that you know we shouldn't EsigSInhxUu-00092-00024175-00024417 talk about certain topics or something EsigSInhxUu-00093-00024418-00024630 like that we talked about absolutely EsigSInhxUu-00094-00024631-00024738 everything and it wasn't really until EsigSInhxUu-00095-00024739-00024996 writing this that I realized that that EsigSInhxUu-00096-00024997-00025161 really was embedded in me and I EsigSInhxUu-00097-00025162-00025296 mentioned you know there's the old joke EsigSInhxUu-00098-00025297-00025530 if you have poor Jews at a table you EsigSInhxUu-00099-00025531-00025694 have five opinions and that just very EsigSInhxUu-00100-00025695-00026084 much is something that is a core part of EsigSInhxUu-00101-00026085-00026162 me at this point EsigSInhxUu-00102-00026163-00026406 absolutely so yeah with the family EsigSInhxUu-00103-00026407-00026604 arguing all the time and five opinions EsigSInhxUu-00104-00026605-00026730 with four Jews EsigSInhxUu-00105-00026731-00027024 definitely definitely Jewish and no EsigSInhxUu-00106-00027025-00027255 question about it so let let's let's EsigSInhxUu-00107-00027256-00027512 talk about you mentioned your your sort EsigSInhxUu-00108-00027513-00027792 of evolution as a person and as a EsigSInhxUu-00109-00027793-00028122 worldview that was rooted in and who you EsigSInhxUu-00110-00028123-00028332 are in that type of environment and EsigSInhxUu-00111-00028333-00028577 discussing everything and you know kind EsigSInhxUu-00112-00028579-00028749 of letting ideas Rumble around in your EsigSInhxUu-00113-00028750-00029057 head let's let's talk about your EsigSInhxUu-00114-00029058-00029322 worldview and your evolving worldview EsigSInhxUu-00115-00029323-00029658 because one of the things that I've EsigSInhxUu-00116-00029658-00029808 heard you describe yourself as a EsigSInhxUu-00117-00029808-00030329 classical liberal and someone who is EsigSInhxUu-00118-00030330-00030614 someone someone may look at you and the EsigSInhxUu-00119-00030616-00030870 ideas that you're sharing and not really EsigSInhxUu-00120-00030870-00031058 associate the ideas that are coming out EsigSInhxUu-00121-00031060-00031305 of your mouth with the quote unquote EsigSInhxUu-00122-00031306-00031524 term liberal so can you elaborate on EsigSInhxUu-00123-00031525-00031769 what that what that term means and and EsigSInhxUu-00124-00031770-00031995 what separates you from let's say EsigSInhxUu-00125-00031995-00032277 someone who's a conservative sure so EsigSInhxUu-00126-00032277-00032475 it's an important question because the EsigSInhxUu-00127-00032476-00032658 word liberal especially in American EsigSInhxUu-00128-00032658-00032877 context has been completely butchered so EsigSInhxUu-00129-00032878-00032994 when people and I say that I'm a EsigSInhxUu-00130-00032995-00033135 classical liberal people think that EsigSInhxUu-00131-00033136-00033327 means I'm a progressive or I'm a EsigSInhxUu-00132-00033328-00033510 big-government Democrat or something EsigSInhxUu-00133-00033511-00033729 like that which actually those ideas are EsigSInhxUu-00134-00033730-00033939 the antithesis of what I believe when I EsigSInhxUu-00135-00033940-00034149 say I'm a classical liberal the the EsigSInhxUu-00136-00034150-00034350 classical liberal lens in effect you EsigSInhxUu-00137-00034351-00034539 believe in individual rights meaning I EsigSInhxUu-00138-00034540-00034680 believe that everyone that's a citizen EsigSInhxUu-00139-00034681-00034863 of the United States will do this from EsigSInhxUu-00140-00034864-00035019 an American perspective if you're a EsigSInhxUu-00141-00035020-00035193 legal citizen in the United States well EsigSInhxUu-00142-00035194-00035355 then regardless of your skin color EsigSInhxUu-00143-00035356-00035652 religion sexuality or color of your skin EsigSInhxUu-00144-00035653-00035886 your gender all those things you should EsigSInhxUu-00145-00035887-00036071 have exact equal rights as everybody EsigSInhxUu-00146-00036072-00036282 else period there's no exceptions to it EsigSInhxUu-00147-00036283-00036486 and we should always be fighting to find EsigSInhxUu-00148-00036487-00036684 if there are a group of people that EsigSInhxUu-00149-00036685-00036867 don't have equal rights based on some EsigSInhxUu-00150-00036868-00036999 immutable characteristic that we want EsigSInhxUu-00151-00037000-00037119 them to have equal rights so that's EsigSInhxUu-00152-00037120-00037317 number one and by the way that's those EsigSInhxUu-00153-00037318-00037494 are what our founders said were EsigSInhxUu-00154-00037495-00037698 god-given rights that are laid out to us EsigSInhxUu-00155-00037699-00037839 in the Constitution of the United States EsigSInhxUu-00156-00037840-00038046 that are you know defended by the EsigSInhxUu-00157-00038047-00038295 Constitution and the Bill of Rights they EsigSInhxUu-00158-00038296-00038475 didn't make us free but they set up a EsigSInhxUu-00159-00038476-00038709 system to protect our freedoms that's a EsigSInhxUu-00160-00038710-00038871 that's a pretty beautiful thing and then EsigSInhxUu-00161-00038872-00039168 really the only other thing specifically EsigSInhxUu-00162-00039169-00039330 with within the classical liberal lens EsigSInhxUu-00163-00039331-00039446 is that you want the light touch of EsigSInhxUu-00164-00039447-00039660 government that you want markets and EsigSInhxUu-00165-00039661-00039943 competition and individual choice to EsigSInhxUu-00166-00039944-00040192 to rule the day as much as possible but EsigSInhxUu-00167-00040193-00040369 you understand that to organize a EsigSInhxUu-00168-00040370-00040609 society at some level we need some level EsigSInhxUu-00169-00040610-00040780 of government so what I what I describe EsigSInhxUu-00170-00040781-00041121 there in many ways in a modern sense is EsigSInhxUu-00171-00041122-00041335 libertarianism so I I don't mind if EsigSInhxUu-00172-00041336-00041524 people call me a libertarian I believe EsigSInhxUu-00173-00041525-00041689 in individual liberty I believe it's EsigSInhxUu-00174-00041690-00041893 your life you can choose what to do and EsigSInhxUu-00175-00041894-00042121 and you should find your passion and do EsigSInhxUu-00176-00042122-00042280 what's best for you and your family and EsigSInhxUu-00177-00042281-00042505 your community and then through that we EsigSInhxUu-00178-00042506-00042664 can hopefully build a structure above EsigSInhxUu-00179-00042665-00042856 but that's good for everybody and that EsigSInhxUu-00180-00042857-00043054 it doesn't have too much power over us EsigSInhxUu-00181-00043055-00043294 the reverse of that is what sort of EsigSInhxUu-00182-00043295-00043558 modern liberalism has become so what EsigSInhxUu-00183-00043559-00043786 progressivism has become which is that EsigSInhxUu-00184-00043787-00044076 the state somehow is inherently good EsigSInhxUu-00185-00044077-00044326 because it's above us we created a EsigSInhxUu-00186-00044327-00044491 structure and somehow that structure is EsigSInhxUu-00187-00044492-00044743 better than all of us and can now tell EsigSInhxUu-00188-00044744-00044908 us what to do and it should take from EsigSInhxUu-00189-00044909-00045139 some and give to others and also what EsigSInhxUu-00190-00045140-00045357 they've incorporated is something very EsigSInhxUu-00191-00045358-00045628 nefarious which is identity politics EsigSInhxUu-00192-00045629-00045841 which is that we should be judged based EsigSInhxUu-00193-00045842-00045979 on the color of our skin and our EsigSInhxUu-00194-00045980-00046210 sexuality and our gender and then once EsigSInhxUu-00195-00046211-00046459 you start judging people based on that EsigSInhxUu-00196-00046460-00046642 well every time you have an original EsigSInhxUu-00197-00046643-00046813 thought you have to basically be EsigSInhxUu-00198-00046814-00046957 destroyed because black people are EsigSInhxUu-00199-00046958-00047152 supposed to think this and gay people EsigSInhxUu-00200-00047153-00047287 are supposed to think this and you know EsigSInhxUu-00201-00047288-00047449 white Christian men who are the worst EsigSInhxUu-00202-00047450-00047599 they're supposed to think this right EsigSInhxUu-00203-00047600-00047839 they also it's one of the things that EsigSInhxUu-00204-00047840-00048043 you know intersectionality and the idea EsigSInhxUu-00205-00048044-00048352 of identity politics has really turned EsigSInhxUu-00206-00048353-00048772 on Jews because Jews are supposed to be EsigSInhxUu-00207-00048773-00049039 oppressed and in American context and in EsigSInhxUu-00208-00049040-00049213 most of the West Jews are no longer EsigSInhxUu-00209-00049214-00049411 oppressed so they don't even know how to EsigSInhxUu-00210-00049412-00049672 fit Jews into the calculator now I would EsigSInhxUu-00211-00049673-00049888 much rather be successful and alive and EsigSInhxUu-00212-00049889-00050131 hated then love then oppress it you know EsigSInhxUu-00213-00050132-00050383 then loved and oppressed and living EsigSInhxUu-00214-00050384-00050629 under someone else's boot so they've EsigSInhxUu-00215-00050630-00050752 really struggled with that and that's EsigSInhxUu-00216-00050753-00050938 why this sort of a whole separate thing EsigSInhxUu-00217-00050939-00051085 but that's why there is such a strong EsigSInhxUu-00218-00051086-00051340 sort of Jew hatred and obsession with EsigSInhxUu-00219-00051341-00051577 Israel in the radical left because the EsigSInhxUu-00220-00051578-00051757 thing they really hate most is a bunch EsigSInhxUu-00221-00051758-00052005 of Jews with guns and that's what that's EsigSInhxUu-00222-00052007-00052279 what they have in Israel which is EsigSInhxUu-00223-00052279-00052696 fantastic by the way so I would say to EsigSInhxUu-00224-00052697-00053032 clean up the word liberal is a job that EsigSInhxUu-00225-00053033-00053245 I've chosen to do I think I've done it EsigSInhxUu-00226-00053246-00053331 quite well I don't EsigSInhxUu-00227-00053332-00053526 that I can really save the word liberal EsigSInhxUu-00228-00053527-00053832 in terms of the world but when I say I'm EsigSInhxUu-00229-00053833-00054069 a liberal at what I mean is JFK ask not EsigSInhxUu-00230-00054070-00054210 what your country can do for you ask EsigSInhxUu-00231-00054211-00054348 what you can do for your country EsigSInhxUu-00232-00054349-00054528 that is completely the reverse of what EsigSInhxUu-00233-00054529-00054762 Bernie Sanders believes there are great EsigSInhxUu-00234-00054763-00054975 live liberal politicians of the past EsigSInhxUu-00235-00054976-00055155 Daniel Patrick Moynihan in New York and EsigSInhxUu-00236-00055156-00055356 Ed Koch the former mayor of New York EsigSInhxUu-00237-00055357-00055575 City who were true liberals who didn't EsigSInhxUu-00238-00055576-00055725 want the government to do everything who EsigSInhxUu-00239-00055726-00055974 were proud to be Americans that has very EsigSInhxUu-00240-00055975-00056163 little to do with the the Democratic EsigSInhxUu-00241-00056164-00056361 socialists of today who are just holding EsigSInhxUu-00242-00056362-00056610 on to the word democratic by a by a you EsigSInhxUu-00243-00056611-00056847 know tiny margin there because really EsigSInhxUu-00244-00056848-00057030 what they are is socialist and go ahead EsigSInhxUu-00245-00057031-00057192 and be socialists if you're a socialist EsigSInhxUu-00246-00057193-00057282 exactly EsigSInhxUu-00247-00057283-00057438 well yeah you got to call a spade a EsigSInhxUu-00248-00057439-00057640 spade you got to say what it is and I'm EsigSInhxUu-00249-00057641-00057873 glad that you're clarifying terms and EsigSInhxUu-00250-00057874-00058266 living by the classical liberal ideology EsigSInhxUu-00251-00058267-00058578 and sort of as you put it cleaning up EsigSInhxUu-00252-00058579-00058765 the name as to what it what it was EsigSInhxUu-00253-00058766-00059013 originally meant to be in the past would EsigSInhxUu-00254-00059014-00059166 you be someone who would describe EsigSInhxUu-00255-00059167-00059446 themselves as having some of these what EsigSInhxUu-00256-00059447-00059821 we would call extreme left ideas we'll EsigSInhxUu-00257-00059822-00060222 use someone who espoused these closer to EsigSInhxUu-00258-00060223-00060690 the the hard left or socialist left and EsigSInhxUu-00259-00060691-00060897 then and sort of moved to the center or EsigSInhxUu-00260-00060898-00061167 how'd and how did that evolution kind of EsigSInhxUu-00261-00061168-00061407 go I think it was a little bit of both I EsigSInhxUu-00262-00061408-00061593 mean I have shifted on some things for EsigSInhxUu-00263-00061594-00061755 sure so the one thing that I've shifted EsigSInhxUu-00264-00061756-00062016 on absolutely that if you find if you EsigSInhxUu-00265-00062017-00062235 listen to videos for me five years ago EsigSInhxUu-00266-00062236-00062388 to now I've absolutely shifted on EsigSInhxUu-00267-00062389-00062531 economics I mean I would say EsigSInhxUu-00268-00062532-00062775 economically I'm as libertarian as it EsigSInhxUu-00269-00062776-00062803 gets EsigSInhxUu-00270-00062804-00063018 I want low taxes for everybody you know EsigSInhxUu-00271-00063019-00063178 what to do with your money better than I EsigSInhxUu-00272-00063179-00063426 know what to do with it or you and I EsigSInhxUu-00273-00063427-00063640 want everybody to pay as little into the EsigSInhxUu-00274-00063641-00063810 government as possible let's get the EsigSInhxUu-00275-00063811-00063957 government instead of being this giant EsigSInhxUu-00276-00063958-00064197 bloated monstrosity to be a slim trim EsigSInhxUu-00277-00064198-00064455 operation and we we know by the way I EsigSInhxUu-00278-00064456-00064678 live in California you're in Florida EsigSInhxUu-00279-00064679-00064834 well in California we pay thirteen EsigSInhxUu-00280-00064835-00065103 percent state income tax and we have EsigSInhxUu-00281-00065104-00065307 massive budgets of massive budget EsigSInhxUu-00282-00065308-00065568 deficits you in California you have zero EsigSInhxUu-00283-00065569-00065730 income tax and you're about your budget EsigSInhxUu-00284-00065731-00065925 is balanced so it's never about the EsigSInhxUu-00285-00065926-00066054 amount of money that they're taking in EsigSInhxUu-00286-00066055-00066165 it's about the amount of money that EsigSInhxUu-00287-00066166-00066426 they're spending so this is an important EsigSInhxUu-00288-00066427-00066579 piece so I would say absolutely I've EsigSInhxUu-00289-00066580-00066726 shifted on economics to the EsigSInhxUu-00290-00066727-00066886 let's say okay but I would say EsigSInhxUu-00291-00066887-00067315 everything else for me I was never a EsigSInhxUu-00292-00067316-00067587 full-on although I called myself a EsigSInhxUu-00293-00067588-00067686 progressive and I worked at a EsigSInhxUu-00294-00067687-00067857 progressive YouTube network and all that EsigSInhxUu-00295-00067858-00068136 I was never sort of one of the really EsigSInhxUu-00296-00068137-00068521 crazed intersectional far lefties but I EsigSInhxUu-00297-00068522-00068803 did fall trap to I saw these people EsigSInhxUu-00298-00068804-00068994 screaming all the time they were angry EsigSInhxUu-00299-00068995-00069168 all the time everyone they disagreed EsigSInhxUu-00300-00069169-00069334 with as a racist and a bigot and a EsigSInhxUu-00301-00069335-00069529 homophobe and I thought and there was a EsigSInhxUu-00302-00069530-00069729 certain allure to that there's a certain EsigSInhxUu-00303-00069730-00069946 sexiness to that because it feels like EsigSInhxUu-00304-00069947-00070179 what it felt like Smee I say this in the EsigSInhxUu-00305-00070180-00070332 book it felt like sort of liberalism on EsigSInhxUu-00306-00070333-00070603 steroids they were so good and everyone EsigSInhxUu-00307-00070604-00070773 else was so evil and liberals are EsigSInhxUu-00308-00070774-00071017 generally nice and open-minded they'll EsigSInhxUu-00309-00071018-00071229 chat with you but these guys had moral EsigSInhxUu-00310-00071230-00071467 indignation and fire in their belly and EsigSInhxUu-00311-00071468-00071718 I think I did fall a little bit prey to EsigSInhxUu-00312-00071719-00072012 that but I never really bought into the EsigSInhxUu-00313-00072013-00072192 whole idea of intersectionality and EsigSInhxUu-00314-00072193-00072432 collectivism in the way that most of EsigSInhxUu-00315-00072433-00072736 them well I've seen some of your some of EsigSInhxUu-00316-00072737-00073009 your views even even socially and and I EsigSInhxUu-00317-00073010-00073249 would describe them as what what today EsigSInhxUu-00318-00073250-00073567 we would call more central views they're EsigSInhxUu-00319-00073568-00073725 not like you said they're not like EsigSInhxUu-00320-00073726-00073978 radically to one way and the more I talk EsigSInhxUu-00321-00073979-00074203 to people no matter what's political EsigSInhxUu-00322-00074204-00074434 part of the identify with it seems that EsigSInhxUu-00323-00074435-00074734 the average American kind of falls EsigSInhxUu-00324-00074735-00074886 somewhere in the middle with all of EsigSInhxUu-00325-00074887-00075049 these issues it's like there's there's EsigSInhxUu-00326-00075050-00075346 very few and unfortunately they get the EsigSInhxUu-00327-00075347-00075571 most attention sometimes but it there's EsigSInhxUu-00328-00075572-00075874 very few that fall on either side of the EsigSInhxUu-00329-00075875-00076066 extremes and everyone else is kind of EsigSInhxUu-00330-00076067-00076273 like we can we can discuss this this is EsigSInhxUu-00331-00076274-00076465 something that we can we can talk about EsigSInhxUu-00332-00076466-00076665 I know that's one of the things that EsigSInhxUu-00333-00076666-00076867 that you mentioned in your book and I EsigSInhxUu-00334-00076868-00077007 know that's one of the things that sort EsigSInhxUu-00335-00077008-00077454 of brought you has has moved you more to EsigSInhxUu-00336-00077455-00077679 the center over time is that that if you EsigSInhxUu-00337-00077680-00077872 don't agree with me shut your mouth and EsigSInhxUu-00338-00077873-00078054 I don't I want to shut down your speech EsigSInhxUu-00339-00078055-00078229 I don't want you to have the ability to EsigSInhxUu-00340-00078230-00078491 say what you want to say it's my the EsigSInhxUu-00341-00078492-00078796 whatever I think is the right way and EsigSInhxUu-00342-00078797-00079044 shut your mouth if you disagree with me EsigSInhxUu-00343-00079045-00079297 I wonder were there moments in your life EsigSInhxUu-00344-00079298-00079566 was it sort of a gradual evolution in EsigSInhxUu-00345-00079567-00079926 your worldview or was orders was like an EsigSInhxUu-00346-00079927-00080048 epiphany moment EsigSInhxUu-00347-00080049-00080216 where there are certain incidents that EsigSInhxUu-00348-00080217-00080408 that made you say hey wait a second I EsigSInhxUu-00349-00080409-00080654 gotta kind of rethink this thing yeah EsigSInhxUu-00350-00080655-00080807 well first off I I agree with your EsigSInhxUu-00351-00080808-00081013 general premise there that most people EsigSInhxUu-00352-00081014-00081275 you know you don't have to pick ten of EsigSInhxUu-00353-00081276-00081500 ten things to say you're a publican or EsigSInhxUu-00354-00081501-00081629 you're a conservative a don't have to EsigSInhxUu-00355-00081630-00081818 pick ten attendings to say you're a EsigSInhxUu-00356-00081819-00082040 lefty or you're a Democrat that most of EsigSInhxUu-00357-00082041-00082310 us have some of these these views that EsigSInhxUu-00358-00082311-00082547 can be mixed again and again I mean this EsigSInhxUu-00359-00082548-00082649 is exactly what I say in the book I EsigSInhxUu-00360-00082650-00082826 think classical liberalism is the best EsigSInhxUu-00361-00082827-00083165 lens to actually pick some things from EsigSInhxUu-00362-00083166-00083435 both sides there there were three EsigSInhxUu-00363-00083436-00083561 moments in the book that I go through EsigSInhxUu-00364-00083562-00083834 that really were my wake up moments the EsigSInhxUu-00365-00083835-00084119 most famous one is you may remember this EsigSInhxUu-00366-00084120-00084419 from about five years ago Ben Affleck EsigSInhxUu-00367-00084420-00084616 wasn't on Real Time with Bill Maher and EsigSInhxUu-00368-00084617-00084902 Sam Harris was on as well and everyone EsigSInhxUu-00369-00084903-00085082 knows who Ben Affleck is of course Sam EsigSInhxUu-00370-00085083-00085292 Harris is a neuroscientist he's a EsigSInhxUu-00371-00085293-00085469 mindful meditation guy I didn't even EsigSInhxUu-00372-00085470-00085643 know who he was at the time but I was EsigSInhxUu-00373-00085644-00086006 watching this live on on HBO and they EsigSInhxUu-00374-00086007-00086201 were talking about the difference EsigSInhxUu-00375-00086202-00086429 between ideas and people that we have to EsigSInhxUu-00376-00086430-00086687 be able to criticize ideas but you don't EsigSInhxUu-00377-00086688-00086837 want to be bigoted towards people and EsigSInhxUu-00378-00086838-00086987 this is a very simple concept that EsigSInhxUu-00379-00086988-00087167 everyone should understand meaning if EsigSInhxUu-00380-00087168-00087431 you criticize the set of ideas that make EsigSInhxUu-00381-00087432-00087644 up the Democratic Party platform or the EsigSInhxUu-00382-00087645-00087842 Republican party platform that doesn't EsigSInhxUu-00383-00087843-00088001 mean you hate everyone who says they're EsigSInhxUu-00384-00088002-00088187 a democrat or republican if you EsigSInhxUu-00385-00088188-00088385 criticize the ideas in the old testament EsigSInhxUu-00386-00088386-00088583 which by the way rabbis have been doing EsigSInhxUu-00387-00088584-00088829 for millennia that doesn't mean you're EsigSInhxUu-00388-00088830-00089015 an anti-semite if you criticize the EsigSInhxUu-00389-00089016-00089252 ideas of the New Testament that doesn't EsigSInhxUu-00390-00089253-00089369 mean you hate all Christians now what EsigSInhxUu-00391-00089370-00089582 they were talking about were the ideas EsigSInhxUu-00392-00089583-00089954 of the Quran and Muslims and it's a very EsigSInhxUu-00393-00089955-00090128 obvious idea again I mean just think EsigSInhxUu-00394-00090129-00090230 about it on its head you should be able EsigSInhxUu-00395-00090231-00090497 to criticize any set of ideas but you EsigSInhxUu-00396-00090498-00090638 wouldn't want to be bigoted towards all EsigSInhxUu-00397-00090639-00090833 the people who may or may not subscribe EsigSInhxUu-00398-00090834-00090989 to all of those ideas you would want to EsigSInhxUu-00399-00090990-00091178 treat everyone individually well that's EsigSInhxUu-00400-00091179-00091313 what they were talking about and an EsigSInhxUu-00401-00091314-00091628 Affleck turned to Sam Harris and Bill EsigSInhxUu-00402-00091629-00091808 Maher and he was red in the face and he EsigSInhxUu-00403-00091809-00091988 was overly emotional and pounding on the EsigSInhxUu-00404-00091989-00092174 table and he called them gross and EsigSInhxUu-00405-00092175-00092468 racist and that moment for me click to EsigSInhxUu-00406-00092469-00092633 what I had been thinking I had about a EsigSInhxUu-00407-00092634-00092759 year before where I was thinking EsigSInhxUu-00408-00092760-00093023 something is not right here when you EsigSInhxUu-00409-00093024-00093158 want to talk about the treatment of EsigSInhxUu-00410-00093159-00093329 women and homosexuals and freethinkers EsigSInhxUu-00411-00093330-00093419 and EsigSInhxUu-00412-00093420-00093585 and public intellectuals in the Muslim EsigSInhxUu-00413-00093586-00093824 world I would argue that liberals have EsigSInhxUu-00414-00093825-00094091 failed us and the crucial point of EsigSInhxUu-00415-00094092-00094515 confusion yeah thank you well I mean EsigSInhxUu-00416-00094516-00094679 that the crucial point of confusion is EsigSInhxUu-00417-00094680-00094979 that that we have been sold this meme of EsigSInhxUu-00418-00094980-00095300 Islamophobia where every criticism of EsigSInhxUu-00419-00095301-00095507 the doctrine of Islam gets conflated EsigSInhxUu-00420-00095508-00095756 with bigotry toward Muslims as people EsigSInhxUu-00421-00095757-00096019 right that is it's intellectually EsigSInhxUu-00422-00096020-00096293 ridiculous even it gets through the EsigSInhxUu-00423-00096294-00096455 person who understands the officially EsigSInhxUu-00424-00096456-00096881 codified doctrine of Islam I think EsigSInhxUu-00425-00096882-00097079 actually well-educated on this time I'm EsigSInhxUu-00426-00097080-00097205 asking you so you're saying if I EsigSInhxUu-00427-00097206-00097331 criticize that you're saying that EsigSInhxUu-00428-00097332-00097535 Islamophobia is not a real thing that if EsigSInhxUu-00429-00097536-00097704 you're critical of something what's not EsigSInhxUu-00430-00097705-00098091 a real thing when we do it right I'm not EsigSInhxUu-00431-00098092-00098235 denying that that certain people are EsigSInhxUu-00432-00098236-00098429 bigoted against Muslims as people right EsigSInhxUu-00433-00098430-00098507 and that's a problem EsigSInhxUu-00434-00098508-00099119 but the gross it's racist it's not it's EsigSInhxUu-00435-00099120-00099326 but it's soni so it's like saying those EsigSInhxUu-00436-00099327-00099524 donate your shifty Jew you're not EsigSInhxUu-00437-00099525-00099782 absolutely not we are say you guys are EsigSInhxUu-00438-00099783-00099899 saying if you want to be liberals EsigSInhxUu-00439-00099900-00100023 believe in liberal principles like EsigSInhxUu-00440-00100024-00100248 freedom speech like you know we are EsigSInhxUu-00441-00100249-00100442 endowed by our forefathers and a little EsigSInhxUu-00442-00100443-00100604 electric I'm gonna create no fan we have EsigSInhxUu-00443-00100605-00100817 to be able to criticize bad ideas it EsigSInhxUu-00444-00100818-00101024 can't be that everyone on my side is so EsigSInhxUu-00445-00101025-00101192 morally right and everyone on the other EsigSInhxUu-00446-00101193-00101462 side is such an awful person and bigoted EsigSInhxUu-00447-00101463-00101618 and racist and homophobic University and EsigSInhxUu-00448-00101619-00101910 somehow seeing this overly emotional a EsigSInhxUu-00449-00101911-00102161 list actor red in the face screaming and EsigSInhxUu-00450-00102162-00102396 a moding and the rest of it it became EsigSInhxUu-00451-00102397-00102621 very obvious that that really was in EsigSInhxUu-00452-00102622-00102897 many ways the root of all the problems EsigSInhxUu-00453-00102898-00103113 that we have right now we can't separate EsigSInhxUu-00454-00103114-00103374 ideas from people and if we can't do EsigSInhxUu-00455-00103375-00103575 that then you can't discuss ideas and if EsigSInhxUu-00456-00103576-00103733 you can't discuss ideas well you've got EsigSInhxUu-00457-00103734-00103994 a formula for a really sick society so I EsigSInhxUu-00458-00103995-00104196 lay out two other moments that that was EsigSInhxUu-00459-00104197-00104336 the first one there were two others but EsigSInhxUu-00460-00104338-00104510 I have in the book but that but that was EsigSInhxUu-00461-00104511-00104681 the one that for me I think because it EsigSInhxUu-00462-00104682-00104885 was this a list movie star oh and the EsigSInhxUu-00463-00104886-00105083 fact that it was Bill Maher who was EsigSInhxUu-00464-00105084-00105231 suddenly being called a racist EsigSInhxUu-00465-00105232-00105438 Bill Maher who has stood up for every EsigSInhxUu-00466-00105439-00105606 lefty principle for the last thirty EsigSInhxUu-00467-00105607-00105854 years the idea that the left was EsigSInhxUu-00468-00105855-00106064 suddenly calling him a racist and it's EsigSInhxUu-00469-00106065-00106224 kind of funny because now if you flash EsigSInhxUu-00470-00106225-00106533 forward five years the right basically EsigSInhxUu-00471-00106533-00106683 likes Bill Maher they agree with they EsigSInhxUu-00472-00106683-00106784 disagree with him on EsigSInhxUu-00473-00106785-00106979 policy but the right usually says Bill EsigSInhxUu-00474-00106980-00107148 Maher he gets it on free speech you know EsigSInhxUu-00475-00107149-00107406 so he basically is okay and it's the EsigSInhxUu-00476-00107407-00107526 left that hates Bill Maher's EsigSInhxUu-00477-00107527-00107703 so really we've seen just a complete EsigSInhxUu-00478-00107704-00108041 flip of meanings of things that we had EsigSInhxUu-00479-00108042-00108270 just you know four or five years ago so EsigSInhxUu-00480-00108271-00108594 I I like I like that a lot and it it EsigSInhxUu-00481-00108595-00108860 does in a lot of ways seem that first of EsigSInhxUu-00482-00108861-00109061 all politics obviously makes strange EsigSInhxUu-00483-00109063-00109316 bedfellows and that sometimes one party EsigSInhxUu-00484-00109317-00109466 will even eat its own if you don't EsigSInhxUu-00485-00109467-00109691 subscribe to all the ideological EsigSInhxUu-00486-00109692-00109893 principles that are laid out in that EsigSInhxUu-00487-00109894-00110036 party's platform EsigSInhxUu-00488-00110038-00110424 I wonder part of part of the evolution EsigSInhxUu-00489-00110425-00110636 of a person and part of the shifting of EsigSInhxUu-00490-00110638-00110877 worldview of a person because it's not EsigSInhxUu-00491-00110878-00111177 worldview doesn't exist in a vacuum when EsigSInhxUu-00492-00111178-00111543 you when you were perhaps more towards EsigSInhxUu-00493-00111544-00111870 let's say the left you had friends group EsigSInhxUu-00494-00111871-00112119 that you associated with you had EsigSInhxUu-00495-00112120-00112365 companies that you worked with that that EsigSInhxUu-00496-00112366-00112679 it's of it's not just changed my mind EsigSInhxUu-00497-00112680-00112833 now and that there's no outside EsigSInhxUu-00498-00112833-00112958 repercussions EsigSInhxUu-00499-00112959-00113209 I imagine you may have lost friends and EsigSInhxUu-00500-00113210-00113483 and and work so how did you deal with EsigSInhxUu-00501-00113484-00113810 that angle of not just shifting your EsigSInhxUu-00502-00113811-00114126 worldview and and sort of being honest EsigSInhxUu-00503-00114127-00114390 enough with yourself to say hey maybe I EsigSInhxUu-00504-00114391-00114525 need to reconsider some of the things EsigSInhxUu-00505-00114526-00114710 that I've held true for this many years EsigSInhxUu-00506-00114711-00114897 but how did you deal with sort of the EsigSInhxUu-00507-00114898-00115215 repercussions of losing friends and EsigSInhxUu-00508-00115216-00115478 associates and all that comes with it EsigSInhxUu-00509-00115479-00115719 well in many ways that was really what EsigSInhxUu-00510-00115720-00115998 drove me to write the book because you EsigSInhxUu-00511-00115999-00116190 will lose friends when you come out of EsigSInhxUu-00512-00116191-00116366 the political closet as I talked about EsigSInhxUu-00513-00116367-00116622 it in the book when you just say hey I EsigSInhxUu-00514-00116623-00116808 don't think exactly what you think I EsigSInhxUu-00515-00116808-00116988 might think or I don't believe in these EsigSInhxUu-00516-00116989-00117161 10 things that I'm supposed to believe EsigSInhxUu-00517-00117163-00117369 as a lefty or whatever it is you are EsigSInhxUu-00518-00117370-00117564 gonna be assaulted you are gonna have EsigSInhxUu-00519-00117565-00117708 friends turn on you you might have EsigSInhxUu-00520-00117708-00117890 family members turn on you you will have EsigSInhxUu-00521-00117891-00118065 you know the Twitter mob and the online EsigSInhxUu-00522-00118066-00118283 keyboard warriors turn on you and the EsigSInhxUu-00523-00118284-00118616 rest of it and it's not easy and it EsigSInhxUu-00524-00118617-00118839 really can can leave you questioning EsigSInhxUu-00525-00118840-00119028 everything about yourself people will EsigSInhxUu-00526-00119029-00119193 say terrible things about you and call EsigSInhxUu-00527-00119194-00119349 you racist and big and all these things EsigSInhxUu-00528-00119350-00119609 even if you've said nothing racist nor EsigSInhxUu-00529-00119610-00119796 bigoted they will come at you with these EsigSInhxUu-00530-00119797-00120033 crazy over-the-top phrases and what I EsigSInhxUu-00531-00120033-00120176 was trying to do with this book was EsigSInhxUu-00532-00120177-00120599 people a little bit of a roadmap to EsigSInhxUu-00533-00120600-00120768 escaping this kind of lunacy and EsigSInhxUu-00534-00120769-00120974 whatever so the reason I tell my story EsigSInhxUu-00535-00120975-00121202 is that I want people to know that yes EsigSInhxUu-00536-00121203-00121301 you're gonna go through some really EsigSInhxUu-00537-00121302-00121574 rough stuff shocking stuff I mean really EsigSInhxUu-00538-00121575-00121908 shocking stuff but when you get out on EsigSInhxUu-00539-00121908-00122123 the other side and you will get out I EsigSInhxUu-00540-00122124-00122345 have yet to see it destroy a human being EsigSInhxUu-00541-00122346-00122643 when you get out on the other side you EsigSInhxUu-00542-00122644-00122834 will be better for it because you will EsigSInhxUu-00543-00122835-00123065 be standing for what you believe in you EsigSInhxUu-00544-00123066-00123236 will be expressing what you believe in EsigSInhxUu-00545-00123237-00123452 and guess what you will find new friends EsigSInhxUu-00546-00123453-00123641 you will find new allies you will find EsigSInhxUu-00547-00123642-00123827 richer relationships on the other side EsigSInhxUu-00548-00123828-00124010 because right now if you have a whole EsigSInhxUu-00549-00124011-00124199 bunch of relationships that only hang on EsigSInhxUu-00550-00124200-00124412 by the thread that you don't speak what EsigSInhxUu-00551-00124413-00124613 you think in many ways those are not EsigSInhxUu-00552-00124614-00124832 real friendships if you go through the EsigSInhxUu-00553-00124833-00125036 transition to be able to say well this EsigSInhxUu-00554-00125037-00125220 is what I think this is why I think it EsigSInhxUu-00555-00125221-00125402 now I'm over here and these people have EsigSInhxUu-00556-00125403-00125633 to let you go well you can't you can't EsigSInhxUu-00557-00125634-00125820 beg you can be as open as possible but EsigSInhxUu-00558-00125821-00125963 you can't beg to for them to come with EsigSInhxUu-00559-00125964-00126248 you but I sense what you will find is if EsigSInhxUu-00560-00126249-00126413 your transition is from left to right EsigSInhxUu-00561-00126414-00126728 you will find a very rich place on the EsigSInhxUu-00562-00126729-00127004 right with conservatives with religious EsigSInhxUu-00563-00127005-00127269 people and secular people with EsigSInhxUu-00564-00127270-00127541 libertarians and and whatever it might EsigSInhxUu-00565-00127542-00127778 be you will find a rich place of people EsigSInhxUu-00566-00127779-00127973 to agree to disagree I find that to be a EsigSInhxUu-00567-00127974-00128268 really interesting spot right now no EsigSInhxUu-00568-00128269-00128486 that's that's beautiful and and I think EsigSInhxUu-00569-00128487-00128774 I think that is one area that holds a EsigSInhxUu-00570-00128775-00129107 lot of people back from actually making EsigSInhxUu-00571-00129108-00129629 changes in their in their life is it's EsigSInhxUu-00572-00129630-00129839 easy to change a world view but the EsigSInhxUu-00573-00129840-00130049 repercussions of that are sometimes very EsigSInhxUu-00574-00130050-00130368 difficult very challenging now one other EsigSInhxUu-00575-00130369-00130724 thing I wanted to ask you is that so as EsigSInhxUu-00576-00130725-00130958 you've moved more to the conservative EsigSInhxUu-00577-00130959-00131237 side of the I libertarian but but that EsigSInhxUu-00578-00131238-00131438 you you're part of the intellectual dark EsigSInhxUu-00579-00131439-00131687 web and and that that's typically EsigSInhxUu-00580-00131688-00132062 associated with conservatism although EsigSInhxUu-00581-00132063-00132243 other members of the intellectual dark EsigSInhxUu-00582-00132244-00132432 web would are not necessarily in that EsigSInhxUu-00583-00132433-00132716 category there's there there there are EsigSInhxUu-00584-00132717-00133079 there are strong religious undertones EsigSInhxUu-00585-00133080-00133371 associated with conservatism I wonder if EsigSInhxUu-00586-00133372-00133533 it we're EsigSInhxUu-00587-00133534-00133791 where you are on faith I've heard EsigSInhxUu-00588-00133792-00134078 interviews with you over the years where EsigSInhxUu-00589-00134079-00134331 you used to describe yourself as an EsigSInhxUu-00590-00134332-00134580 atheist and then and then I then I've EsigSInhxUu-00591-00134581-00134787 heard more as an agnostic someone who's EsigSInhxUu-00592-00134788-00134991 kind of questioning I was just just for EsigSInhxUu-00593-00134992-00135120 curiosity purposes EsigSInhxUu-00594-00135121-00135354 I wonder where you're at now and sort of EsigSInhxUu-00595-00135355-00135729 like has your view on God religion and EsigSInhxUu-00596-00135730-00136002 and the like shifted over time as well EsigSInhxUu-00597-00136003-00136221 what as as it has with other things in EsigSInhxUu-00598-00136222-00136419 your worldview yeah well I can say a EsigSInhxUu-00599-00136420-00136581 couple things on this I mean I would say EsigSInhxUu-00600-00136582-00136767 that I'm a believer in that I don't see EsigSInhxUu-00601-00136768-00137010 really a way around belief in an odd way EsigSInhxUu-00602-00137011-00137292 I tried it in many ways and I just don't EsigSInhxUu-00603-00137293-00137550 see a way around it I well especially at EsigSInhxUu-00604-00137551-00137781 a societal level you know I think at the EsigSInhxUu-00605-00137782-00138003 at the micro level at a personal level I EsigSInhxUu-00606-00138004-00138201 think there are ways that you can be an EsigSInhxUu-00607-00138202-00138405 exceptionally moral good decent person EsigSInhxUu-00608-00138406-00138642 and not be a believer I do think that's EsigSInhxUu-00609-00138643-00138783 possible you know sam harris who i EsigSInhxUu-00610-00138784-00138948 mentioned before i think is a lovely EsigSInhxUu-00611-00138949-00139101 human being who i know he's bringing EsigSInhxUu-00612-00139102-00139296 some goodness into the world some of my EsigSInhxUu-00613-00139297-00139416 other favorite guests that i've had on EsigSInhxUu-00614-00139417-00139569 the show repeatedly michael shermer and EsigSInhxUu-00615-00139570-00139725 peter burgos you these guys are atheists EsigSInhxUu-00616-00139726-00139923 who I think are completely moral and EsigSInhxUu-00617-00139924-00140205 decent I think at a societal level a EsigSInhxUu-00618-00140206-00140397 society can only organize around EsigSInhxUu-00619-00140398-00140655 something much bigger than itself it can EsigSInhxUu-00620-00140656-00140930 only organize around some sort of EsigSInhxUu-00621-00140931-00141144 principle that that did not come from EsigSInhxUu-00622-00141145-00141270 the people itself that's why our EsigSInhxUu-00623-00141271-00141441 founding documents in America are so EsigSInhxUu-00624-00141442-00141621 brilliant because our founders talked EsigSInhxUu-00625-00141622-00141861 about god-given rights meaning that you EsigSInhxUu-00626-00141862-00142095 are born free and as I said earlier EsigSInhxUu-00627-00142096-00142296 we're gonna we're gonna create documents EsigSInhxUu-00628-00142297-00142431 that will protect your freedom but we EsigSInhxUu-00629-00142432-00142623 didn't make you free God made you free EsigSInhxUu-00630-00142624-00142806 now we can talk about we can get into EsigSInhxUu-00631-00142807-00142998 all the mystical and metaphysical stuff EsigSInhxUu-00632-00142999-00143277 around God and what that means but I EsigSInhxUu-00633-00143278-00143460 would say you know there's sort of like EsigSInhxUu-00634-00143461-00143625 a Jewish version of this would be more EsigSInhxUu-00635-00143626-00143742 that you're just supposed to have this EsigSInhxUu-00636-00143743-00144024 ongoing grappling with God throughout EsigSInhxUu-00637-00144025-00144228 your life that that would be more in EsigSInhxUu-00638-00144229-00144482 line with something that that I have EsigSInhxUu-00639-00144483-00144729 because that's what my father had and EsigSInhxUu-00640-00144730-00144951 his father had and all the way down the EsigSInhxUu-00641-00144952-00145236 line that's the tradition that I come EsigSInhxUu-00642-00145237-00145551 from related to contextualizing or EsigSInhxUu-00643-00145552-00145791 visualizing God let's say I you know I EsigSInhxUu-00644-00145792-00145887 become friends with a lot of EsigSInhxUu-00645-00145888-00146229 evangelicals and I'm very welcomed by by EsigSInhxUu-00646-00146230-00146388 a lot of Christian conservatives and EsigSInhxUu-00647-00146389-00146580 they have a more personal relationship EsigSInhxUu-00648-00146581-00146769 with God they want you to have this EsigSInhxUu-00649-00146770-00146922 personal intimate really EsigSInhxUu-00650-00146923-00147102 ship with God I think that's perfectly EsigSInhxUu-00651-00147103-00147306 fine - it's not the tradition that I EsigSInhxUu-00652-00147307-00147465 come from it's not the tradition that EsigSInhxUu-00653-00147466-00147783 you come from so I would say my mice my EsigSInhxUu-00654-00147784-00148166 belief is that I don't see a way around EsigSInhxUu-00655-00148167-00148482 belief not if you're gonna function not EsigSInhxUu-00656-00148483-00148614 if you're gonna build a flourishing EsigSInhxUu-00657-00148615-00148821 society I don't think you can build a EsigSInhxUu-00658-00148822-00149147 flourishing good society just around EsigSInhxUu-00659-00149148-00149427 enlightenment values just around free EsigSInhxUu-00660-00149428-00149603 speech and open inquiry and all of those EsigSInhxUu-00661-00149604-00149745 things like that would be really nice EsigSInhxUu-00662-00149746-00149952 but I think it's actually counter to EsigSInhxUu-00663-00149953-00150102 human nature I think there's too many EsigSInhxUu-00664-00150103-00150303 destructive forces in human nature that EsigSInhxUu-00665-00150304-00150498 we have to find something outside of EsigSInhxUu-00666-00150499-00150807 ourselves to believe in to organize so I EsigSInhxUu-00667-00150808-00151004 would say my bulletin if anything my EsigSInhxUu-00668-00151005-00151154 belief I would say is very utilitarian EsigSInhxUu-00669-00151155-00151428 which isn't the most well that's EsigSInhxUu-00670-00151429-00151616 certainly not the most mystical reason EsigSInhxUu-00671-00151617-00151908 for belief but I think it's enough it's EsigSInhxUu-00672-00151909-00152157 enough for me personally and I'm not EsigSInhxUu-00673-00152158-00152394 trying to convince anyone that's the the EsigSInhxUu-00674-00152395-00152757 right way to believe but I think I think EsigSInhxUu-00675-00152758-00152943 let's say for for someone that comes at EsigSInhxUu-00676-00152944-00153090 it from a more religious perspective EsigSInhxUu-00677-00153091-00153264 whether it's a Jewish perspective or a 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EsigSInhxUu-00691-00156271-00156491 in some circles and in the same way that EsigSInhxUu-00692-00156492-00156726 certain terms and ideas in the political EsigSInhxUu-00693-00156727-00157089 sphere have been misconstrued over time EsigSInhxUu-00694-00157090-00157311 for various reasons in the religious EsigSInhxUu-00695-00157312-00157539 circle as well when when thinking about EsigSInhxUu-00696-00157540-00157754 the idea of a personal God a lot of EsigSInhxUu-00697-00157755-00157932 times people automatically assume that EsigSInhxUu-00698-00157933-00158100 that's it that's a very Christian idea EsigSInhxUu-00699-00158101-00158469 and that I would I would strongly EsigSInhxUu-00700-00158470-00158685 disagree with that actually in the sense EsigSInhxUu-00701-00158686-00158934 that Judaism both believes and that EsigSInhxUu-00702-00158935-00159144 there's a plan purpose and trajectory EsigSInhxUu-00703-00159145-00159375 for the world at large but there's also EsigSInhxUu-00704-00159376-00159615 an individualized purpose for every EsigSInhxUu-00705-00159616-00159819 human being that was born in the same EsigSInhxUu-00706-00159820-00160098 way that that no two people have the EsigSInhxUu-00707-00160099-00160335 same fingerprints that everyone was put EsigSInhxUu-00708-00160336-00160533 here for a very specific purpose in EsigSInhxUu-00709-00160534-00160863 order to sort of Express the general EsigSInhxUu-00710-00160864-00161061 purpose the general purpose is making EsigSInhxUu-00711-00161062-00161310 the world into a place where God were EsigSInhxUu-00712-00161311-00161622 the divine can express itself that EsigSInhxUu-00713-00161623-00161931 goodness can express itself and you are EsigSInhxUu-00714-00161932-00162189 empowered as an individual to express EsigSInhxUu-00715-00162190-00162378 with the talents and passions that you EsigSInhxUu-00716-00162379-00162612 were programmed with and from your EsigSInhxUu-00717-00162613-00162854 various situation whatever to express EsigSInhxUu-00718-00162855-00163191 that collective goal so it is it is a EsigSInhxUu-00719-00163192-00163368 very personal thing when I when I have a EsigSInhxUu-00720-00163369-00163647 personal issue in struggle I I EsigSInhxUu-00721-00163648-00163865 personally pray to God it's not just EsigSInhxUu-00722-00163866-00164066 sort of running through the the EsigSInhxUu-00723-00164067-00164256 rumblings of the the synagogue EsigSInhxUu-00724-00164257-00164394 you know standardized prayer service EsigSInhxUu-00725-00164395-00164613 it's something that that for me again EsigSInhxUu-00726-00164614-00164868 that but that is a very that is a sort EsigSInhxUu-00727-00164869-00165165 of a very Jewish way to look at things EsigSInhxUu-00728-00165166-00165393 on a on a personal level on a lot I EsigSInhxUu-00729-00165394-00165578 think a lot of Jews you know coming from EsigSInhxUu-00730-00165579-00165714 the backgrounds that you mentioned that EsigSInhxUu-00731-00165715-00165960 you come from and to be honest I I come EsigSInhxUu-00732-00165961-00166194 from a very similar background I wasn't EsigSInhxUu-00733-00166195-00166583 particularly religious until age 15 and EsigSInhxUu-00734-00166584-00166950 that sort of was a was an evolving EsigSInhxUu-00735-00166951-00167319 process and and then in a similar way to EsigSInhxUu-00736-00167320-00167654 your evolution or certain things saying EsigSInhxUu-00737-00167655-00167796 hey maybe that's not right in the EsigSInhxUu-00738-00167797-00167990 political sphere I kind of had a similar EsigSInhxUu-00739-00167991-00168249 experience in the in the faith sphere EsigSInhxUu-00740-00168250-00168432 and the in the religiosity sphere and EsigSInhxUu-00741-00168433-00168615 the Jewish sphere I also grew up you EsigSInhxUu-00742-00168616-00168878 know kind of a semi pretty secular EsigSInhxUu-00743-00168879-00169122 Jewish environments and we did the EsigSInhxUu-00744-00169123-00169362 holidays and whatnot but one of the EsigSInhxUu-00745-00169363-00169569 things one of the gifts that I think EsigSInhxUu-00746-00169570-00169812 that it was empowering to me and I EsigSInhxUu-00747-00169813-00170037 wonder if you feel the same way from a EsigSInhxUu-00748-00170038-00170436 political worldview is coming from sort EsigSInhxUu-00749-00170437-00170823 of having both sides of the fence having EsigSInhxUu-00750-00170824-00171081 experienced both sides of the fence I EsigSInhxUu-00751-00171082-00171360 think for me it's a it's a it's a very EsigSInhxUu-00752-00171361-00171585 positive tool because I kind of know EsigSInhxUu-00753-00171586-00171900 what what how the secular Jews would EsigSInhxUu-00754-00171901-00172152 would look at Orthodox Jews and how EsigSInhxUu-00755-00172153-00172338 Orthodox Jews might look at secular Jews EsigSInhxUu-00756-00172339-00172528 and having had my foot in both worlds EsigSInhxUu-00757-00172529-00172863 kind of allows me the ability to be able EsigSInhxUu-00758-00172864-00173193 to talk to secular Jews on their grounds EsigSInhxUu-00759-00173194-00173325 or secular people on their grounds and EsigSInhxUu-00760-00173326-00173535 the religious community on their grounds EsigSInhxUu-00761-00173536-00173712 and and sort of be like you know guys EsigSInhxUu-00762-00173713-00173856 I don't know that you really have it EsigSInhxUu-00763-00173857-00174000 right about what the other side is EsigSInhxUu-00764-00174001-00174264 really all about so I wonder if in the EsigSInhxUu-00765-00174265-00174486 in your world view from a political view EsigSInhxUu-00766-00174487-00174774 from your political stance and just as EsigSInhxUu-00767-00174775-00174945 your evolution of them as a person from EsigSInhxUu-00768-00174946-00175119 where you've come from and where you are EsigSInhxUu-00769-00175120-00175452 now do you find that that is helpful for EsigSInhxUu-00770-00175453-00175752 you having been on the other side so to EsigSInhxUu-00771-00175753-00175989 speak and if you were to if you were to EsigSInhxUu-00772-00175990-00176253 leave us with one thought from your book EsigSInhxUu-00773-00176254-00176754 or from your experiences that let's say EsigSInhxUu-00774-00176755-00176985 someone is looking to reconsider they're EsigSInhxUu-00775-00176986-00177138 there they're there they're exploring EsigSInhxUu-00776-00177139-00177324 there are open-minded enough to EsigSInhxUu-00777-00177325-00177570 recognize that maybe maybe they don't EsigSInhxUu-00778-00177571-00177918 have everything right that their EsigSInhxUu-00779-00177919-00178164 worldview can be what would be some of EsigSInhxUu-00780-00178165-00178293 the things that you would share with EsigSInhxUu-00781-00178294-00178434 them either from your book from your EsigSInhxUu-00782-00178435-00178737 personal experience to allow them to EsigSInhxUu-00783-00178738-00179037 take the extra step to explore to be EsigSInhxUu-00784-00179038-00179445 willing to change and and you know and EsigSInhxUu-00785-00179446-00179793 and continue in that direction I think I EsigSInhxUu-00786-00179794-00180150 can speak the language that both groups EsigSInhxUu-00787-00180151-00180360 sort of understand I think what has EsigSInhxUu-00788-00180361-00180552 happened and I'm sure you see a version EsigSInhxUu-00789-00180553-00180858 of this through a religious lens it EsigSInhxUu-00790-00180859-00181167 becomes harder to talk to the group that EsigSInhxUu-00791-00181168-00181470 you left I suspect I'm guessing for you EsigSInhxUu-00792-00181471-00181647 as someone that probably went from EsigSInhxUu-00793-00181648-00181902 secular to religious it's probably EsigSInhxUu-00794-00181903-00182079 easier for you to now talk to the EsigSInhxUu-00795-00182080-00182259 religious people not necessarily because EsigSInhxUu-00796-00182260-00182445 of what you might say to the secular EsigSInhxUu-00797-00182446-00182607 people but what the secular people might EsigSInhxUu-00798-00182608-00182850 think of you as someone that left them EsigSInhxUu-00799-00182851-00183194 so I do find that finding left these EsigSInhxUu-00800-00183195-00183450 progressives that will talk to me in an EsigSInhxUu-00801-00183451-00183647 honest way without attacking me or EsigSInhxUu-00802-00183648-00183867 demeaning me or something like that is EsigSInhxUu-00803-00183868-00184065 getting harder and harder to do that's EsigSInhxUu-00804-00184066-00184260 unfortunate because I would gladly do it EsigSInhxUu-00805-00184261-00184536 I found nothing basically but openness EsigSInhxUu-00806-00184537-00184686 and love on the right that's not to say EsigSInhxUu-00807-00184687-00184839 that they're all that all the time EsigSInhxUu-00808-00184840-00185160 obviously but generally speaking I've EsigSInhxUu-00809-00185161-00185364 found a real ability to agree to EsigSInhxUu-00810-00185365-00185784 disagree and and explore ideas and be EsigSInhxUu-00811-00185785-00186161 willing to not willing to to be able to EsigSInhxUu-00812-00186162-00186372 relish the fact that we live in a EsigSInhxUu-00813-00186373-00186528 country with a whole bunch of people EsigSInhxUu-00814-00186529-00186705 from all different places with all EsigSInhxUu-00815-00186706-00186840 different thoughts and that's of what a EsigSInhxUu-00816-00186841-00187008 what a cool amazing thing that we're EsigSInhxUu-00817-00187009-00187059 doing here EsigSInhxUu-00818-00187060-00187221 America this annoying experiment it's EsigSInhxUu-00819-00187222-00187443 pretty wonderful as for the the final EsigSInhxUu-00820-00187444-00187596 question if I had to give people one EsigSInhxUu-00821-00187597-00188129 thing you got one shot at this as far as EsigSInhxUu-00822-00188130-00188402 I know maybe have more there's some EsigSInhxUu-00823-00188403-00188544 religious traditions that would tell you EsigSInhxUu-00824-00188545-00188741 that you do but as far as I can 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that we all EsigSInhxUu-00839-00191650-00191939 sort of know is right for us and that EsigSInhxUu-00840-00191940-00192116 that doesn't mean it's easy you got to EsigSInhxUu-00841-00192117-00192326 work to do it you got to work to get it EsigSInhxUu-00842-00192327-00192582 but I think if you put yourself on that EsigSInhxUu-00843-00192583-00192720 path it doesn't mean that you'll always EsigSInhxUu-00844-00192721-00192939 do that path perfectly and you know EsigSInhxUu-00845-00192940-00193101 there'll be times if the path is just EsigSInhxUu-00846-00193102-00193265 this way there'll be times you're going EsigSInhxUu-00847-00193266-00193371 off this way and times you're going off EsigSInhxUu-00848-00193372-00193524 this way but if you can get that thought EsigSInhxUu-00849-00193525-00193872 right I think you can open yourself up EsigSInhxUu-00850-00193873-00194066 to a world that you have no idea what's EsigSInhxUu-00851-00194067-00194228 on the other side and get rid of a lot 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